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          GOOD 
          [Community Police Oversight Board on January 14, 2025.]
EVENING EVERYONE. 
          I'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. 
          MY NAME IS JOHN MARK DAVIDSON. 
          I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD. 
          UH, WE HAVE CONFIRMED A QUORUM OF OUR MEMBERS, SO WE ARE READY TO PROCEED. 
          THE OFFICIAL START TIME FOR THIS MEETING IS 5 34. 
          5:34 PM AND TO BEGIN, I WANNA SHARE THE MISSION OF, UH, THIS OVERSIGHT BOARD. 
          UH, WE HAVE BEEN SELECTED BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR OF, OF, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS, STATE OF TEXAS. 
          WE REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. 
          UH, THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS TO ENHANCE PUBLIC TRUST BY ENSURING THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT AGAINST DEPARTMENTAL EMPLOYEES ARE INVESTIGATED WITH FAIRNESS, IMPARTIALITY, THOROUGHNESS, AND TRANSPARENCY. 
          AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH AN ACCESSIBLE AND OPEN PROCESS FOR ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS. 
          AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH A ROLL CALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT. 
          AND AFTER THE ROLL CALL, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES FROM THE, UH, THE PRIOR MEETING MINUTES. 
          UH, AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL DO THE APPROVAL, UH, FOR THE MINUTES. 
          BUT THIS TIME WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH DISTRICT. 
          AND IF YOU ARE PRESENT, PLEASE, UH, JUST STATE HERE SO THAT WE CAN ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING. 
          DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO. 
          DISTRICT TWO. 
          JONATHAN MAPLES. 
          PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT THREE. 
          DISTRICT FOUR. 
          LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. 
          PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT FIVE. 
          DISTRICT SIX. 
          DEREK PEGRAM. 
          DISTRICT SIX. 
          PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          IS IT THIS TIME? VACANT? DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          DISTRICT NINE. 
          DISTRICT NINE. 
          ALLISON GREENER. 
          ALLEN. 
          DISTRICT 10. 
          DISTRICT 10. 
          DISTRICT 10. 
          JENNY KING. 
          I CARE. 
          10. 
          DID YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. 
          JENNIFER KING, DISTRICT 10. 
          PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT 11. 
          DISTRICT 12 D WADSWORTH. 
          DISTRICT 12 PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT 13. 
          DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13 PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT 14. 
          DISTRICT 14. 
          BRANDON FRIED, PRESENT. 
          AND I'M, UH, DISTRICT 15, JOHN MARK DAVIDSON. 
          IT'S, UH, I'M PRESENT AND IT'S A JOY, UH, TO BE HERE. 
          WE, UH, WILL AT THIS TIME, UH, BEGIN WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR MEETING. 
          AND, UH, IN LINE WITH OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES. 
          UH, THREE MINUTES, THOUGH I DO RESERVE, UH, DISCRETION TO ADJUST THIS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          BUT LOOKING AT TODAY, WE DO HAVE, UH, QUITE A LOT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA LIMIT THAT TIME TO THREE, UH, MINUTES. 
          AND, UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS MEETING AND YET HAVE YET, UH, TO SIGN UP, UH, DON'T WORRY. 
          UH, THERE'LL BE A TIME AT THE END OF THE MEETING WHERE WE ALSO ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SO YOU CAN APPROACH, UH, UP HERE AS WELL, ONE OF THE STAFF, UH, AND SIGN UP TO SPEAK. 
          UH, AT THE END OF THE MEETING, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR, UH, FROM YOU. 
          UH, AND ALSO, UH, WE OFFER THIS IN PERSON AND ALSO, UM, ONLINE. 
          BUT, UH, OUR GOAL WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, OF COURSE, IS ALWAYS TO HAVE PRODUCTIVE, RESPECTFUL, AND CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE. 
          SO, TO ACHIEVE THIS, WE HOPE, AND WE TRY TO ENGAGE WITH MUTUAL RESPECT, AND I ASK THAT ALL PARTICIPANTS EXTEND COURTESY TO ONE ANOTHER AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES. 
          AND, UM, RESPECT, UH, AND KINDNESS ARE PARAMOUNT AS WE DISCUSS THE MATTERS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN DALLAS. 
          SO, UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, WE HAVE, LET'S SEE, 1, 2, 3, 4. 
          WE HAVE FIVE, UH, PEOPLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO BEGIN, UH, INVITING YOU, UH, EUNICE MCDANIEL. 
          UH, PLEASE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD, I BELIEVE, UM, WOULD IT BE GOOD TO SIT NEXT TO MAJOR GREER? WOULD THAT MICROPHONE BE OKAY? 
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MS. MCDANIEL, WELCOME, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE HERE. 
          UH, EAGER TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          UM, WHENEVER YOU BEGIN, I'LL START MY TIMER AT THREE MINUTES AND WANNA GIVE YOU THAT FULL TIME. 
          AND HOPEFULLY, UH, THE BUZZER WILL GO OFF WHEN THE THREE MINUTES IS UP, AND YOU'LL HEAR THAT. 
          BUT I WILL, UH, UH, LET YOU KNOW WHEN THAT BUZZER IS UP. 
          BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU AND MAKE SURE YOUR MIC IS TURNED ON, IF POSSIBLE. 
          IF THERE'S A, IT SHOULD BE READ. 
          THIS IS MY FIRST TIME, SO I'M A NEWBIE, SO I DON'T, YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE DOING THE RIGHT THING. 
          SO, UH, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK FROM THE HEART AND, UH, WE'LL BEGIN, UH, THE TIMER WHEN YOU BEGIN. 
          OKAY. 
          I AM HERE TO ADDRESS ORDINANCES OR LAWS THAT DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BUT CANNOT CARRY OUT. 
          ONE IS BLASTING LOUD MUSIC BEING PLAYED BY SOME HOMEOWNERS, AS IF THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETIMES UNTIL 4:00 AM IF THEY'RE HAVING A HOUSE PARTY, A CALL TO NINE ONE ONE ON RESULTS IN THE OFFICE, AND NOT SHOWING UP, OR SIMPLY DRIVING BY THE RESIDENCE HOURS AFTER THE INCIDENT, RESULTING IN THE COMPLIANT RESIDENCE SUFFERING, AND THE NONCOMPLIANT RESIDENTS GETTING AWAY WITH BREAKING THE LAW WITHOUT ANY CONSEQUENCES. 
          SECONDLY, NEW YEAR'S DAY 2024, A CONTINUOUS GUNFIRE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH STARTED EARLY AFTER NIGHTFALL. 
          THIS YEAR, I CALLED 9 1 1 AND REQUESTED FOR THE POLICE TO DRIVE DOWN OUR STREET TO MAKE OUR, THEIR PRESENCE KNOWN. 
          SINCE I DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS SHOOTING, I DIDN'T THINK ANYONE CAME BECAUSE THE SHOOTING CONTINUED. 
          THEN NEW YEAR'S DAY, MORNING SHOOTING WAS HEARD AGAIN, CALLED 9 1 1, MADE THE SAME REQUEST. 
          SHORTLY AFTER 9:00 AM I WITNESSED THE HOMEOWNER ACROSS THE STREET, TAKE HIS, UH, AUTOMATIC RIFLE AND SHOOT MULTIPLE SHOTS SEVERAL TIMES WHILE STANDING ON HIS FRONT PORCH, ALONG WITH HIS UNDERAGE SON AND GUEST SHOOTING THE GUN. 
          LEFT MY HOUSE, WENT TO SOUTHWEST POLICE PRECINCT TO ADDRESS THE HOMEOWNER'S SHOOTING, BUT GOT NOWHERE. 
          DURING THE CONVERSATION. 
          THE SERGEANT AT THE DESK QUESTIONED TO ME WAS, WHAT DO I WANT HER TO DO? ACCORDING TO THE SERGEANT, THERE WAS, THEY WERE SHORT STAFFED, AND THAT WAS AT ALL PRECINCTS. 
          I LEFT FEELING THAT MY EXPECTATIONS FOR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE TOO HIGH, AND DPD WILL ONLY COME TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO ADDRESS FATALITIES OR ALMOST FATALITIES. 
          1254 SAW AN OFFICER DRIVE BY, AND AT THAT TIME, THE STREETS WERE QUIET. 
          LATER ON, I VIEWED THE SOUTHWEST PATROL DIVISION COMMANDER, WELCOME PAGE, DEPUTY CHIEF MA, JUSTICE ALLEN, AND OBSERVED CATCHPHRASES LIKE OFFICERS ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING BEST POSSIBLE POLICE SERVICE MISSION TO PROTECT AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. 
          COLLABORATION PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN MAKING SOUTHWEST AREA OF DALLAS SAFER FOR A PLACE TO LIVE, INTENTIONAL ABOUT LIST LISTENING, AND EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, DEDICATED TO HOLDING EVERYONE ACCOUNTABLE, WANT TO WORK WITH EVERYONE TO IMPROVE THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE THAT MAKES SOUTHWEST A UNIQUE AREA TO LIVE, VISIT, AND WORK. 
          TO ME, THESE ARE EMPTY WORDS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE DPD HAS FAILED ME AS A CITIZEN TRYING TO GET HELP. 
          SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THOSE, THE LAWS THAT ARE THERE, THE TWO THAT I'M ENCOUNTERING. 
          'CAUSE NOTHING HAPPENS. 
          9 1 1, WE WILL CALL, TELL THE, TELL US, TELL ME. 
          THEY'LL SEND SOMEONE OUT. 
          I ASK IF THEY WOULD FOLLOW UP WITH ME. 
          ONLY HAVE ONE OFFICER TO FOLLOW UP. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          WELL, THANK YOU, MS. MCDANIEL. 
          DO THE RIGHT THING BY COMING HERE. 
          UH, AND HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO OUR OFFICE BY, BY CHANCE, OR, AND FILED A, AN OFFICIAL REPORT? I FILED A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE NEW YEAR'S DAY EVENT ON JANUARY 3RD, I FILED A COMPLAINT. 
          SO I THINK THAT YOU, YOU'VE DONE THE RIGHT THING, AND YOU'VE ALSO COME BEFORE US. 
          SO NOW IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE HANDS OF THE OFFICE. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA RELY ON THEM TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM THEM AFTER THEY, UH, SPEAK WITH YOU. 
          AND SUME, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 
          AND, UH, YOU'VE BEEN HEARD. 
          CAN I ASK A QUESTION IF I HAVE TIME? IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN LOOK AT THE LAWS? WHERE CAN WE GO TO LOOK AT THE LAWS TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF THE LAW? YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE LAWS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS? YEAH. 
          WHERE DO WE GO TO ACTUALLY READ AND SEE? CAN, YOU KNOW, GET AN UNDERSTANDING? 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME MISSING. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SOMETHING'S MISSING THERE. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          UH, MAJOR GREER, DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION ON MAYBE A PLACE FOR HER TO GO TO, UH, TO READ SOME OF THE LAWS HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? CITY OF DALLAS WEBSITE WILL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS WEBSITE WILL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE CITY ORDINANCES, BUT CERTAINLY THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE EXPRESSED, THOSE ARE STATE LAWS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. 
          AND, UH, YOU WORK WITH THE OFFICE AND WE'LL GET YOU TO THE RIGHT RESOURCES. 
          AND THE ATTORNEY. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS FAR AS ACCESS TO SOME OF THE CITY LAWS FOR HER? AND, UH, I KNOW, UH, IF, IF YOU STICK AROUND, I KNOW WE CAN SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT, UH, I DO KNOW YOU'VE DONE 
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THE RIGHT THING AND YOU'VE, UH, UH, FILED THAT WITH THE OFFICE AND THEY'RE GOOD CAPABLE GROUP. 
          SO THEY'LL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND, AND, UH, LOOK INTO IT. 
          BUT MS. MCG, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          DO YOU DO WHERE, WHERE IN DISTRICT FOUR DO YOU LIVE? SORRY? WHERE IN DISTRICT FOUR DO YOU LIVE? I'M ON EDGEFIELD. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE THERE WAS SHOOTING RIGHT BEHIND, UM, COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD'S HOUSE, AND I CALLED TWICE 9 1 1. 
          AND THE FIRST TIME NO ONE CAME THE SECOND TIME, 9 1 1 SAID, YOU CALLED BEFORE. 
          I SAID, BUT THERE'S MORE SHOOTING. 
          NO ONE EVER CAME. 
          THANK YOU FOR SHARING. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          AND AGAIN, THE OFFICE WILL LOOK INTO THESE ISSUES, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 
          MS. MCDANIEL, I'D LIKE TO INVITE AT THIS TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          ELIJAH HANNAH, ELIJAH, UH, ARE YOU, UH, I KNOW I CAN'T, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE HERE AT THIS TIME, BUT IS THERE AN ELIJAH HANNAH ONLINE? WELL, ELIJAH, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UH, WE, WE WILL HAVE A SPOT AT THE END FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UH, STICK AROUND AT THE END. 
          UH, DOLORES PHILLIPS, I DON'T SEE HER HERE. 
          UH, IS THERE A DOLORES PHILLIPS ONLINE? WELL, DOLORES, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, THERE'LL BE A, A SPOT AT THE END FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          UM, IF, IF YOU STICK AROUND TOWARDS, TOWARDS THE END, UH, I'D LIKE TO ALSO, UH, WE DO HAVE ONLINE, ALEX STEIN. 
          ALEX STEIN. 
          IS THERE AN ALEX STEIN ONLINE? YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE, UH, COULD WE, UH, PIPE IN, UH, MR. STEIN? AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, MR. STEIN. 
          UM, WHENEVER YOU BEGIN, UH, LET'S SEE. 
          OH, THERE YOU ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN SEE YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR, UH, BEING HERE. 
          AND WHENEVER YOU, WHENEVER YOU START, I'LL START THE TIMER. 
          YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          AND, UM, WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          HEY GUYS, I JUST WANNA SAY MY NAME'S ALEX STEIN. 
          I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT AND YOU KNOW, I CAME UP HERE AND I COMPLAINED ABOUT OUR TERM FROM OUR TEAM. 
           SHOULD HAVE AIMED BACK CAME. 
          I THINK THAT HE GOT A FAIR PUNISHMENT. 
          BUT WHAT I AM A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT IS I HAVE SOME ISSUES. 
          A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE NAMED AARON MOLTE. 
          HE'S A BROADCASTER THAT IS BASED IN, UH, MINNESOTA. 
          AND HE RECENTLY GOT INTO A LEGAL DISAGREEMENT WITH A GUY NAMED NICK ADA, WHO IS A YOUTUBE STREAMER. 
          HE'S THE ATTICUS FINCH OF ONLINE LEGAL ANALYSIS. 
          HE'S ONE OF THE GREATEST THERE EVER WAS. 
          WHAT HAPPENED WAS, IS THESE TWO GUYS STARTED SWAPPING EACH OTHER'S WIVES. 
          SO, STEEL TOE MORNING SHOW, HE STARTED SLEEPING WITH THIS OTHER GUY'S WIFE. 
          THEY DID A SWAP. 
          NOW, WHAT HAPPENED WAS, IS WHEN THEY BROKE UP, AARON HAD A NUDE PICTURE. 
          SO LISTEN TO THIS. 
          AARON HAD A NUDE PICTURE OF NICK ADA'S WIFE. 
          HER NAME IS KAYLA ADA, AND HE SHARED IT TO COMEDIAN NAMED GINO SANTE. 
          GINO SANTE HAD A RECEIPT OF THIS. 
          NOW, MY QUESTION IS THIS. 
          AARON AND MALTE HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH A REVENGE PORN CRIME. 
          NOW, HE SENT THIS TO AN INDIVIDUAL PRIVATELY. 
          HE DIDN'T POST THIS AT THEIR WORK. 
          HE DIDN'T POST THIS, YOU KNOW, TO A FORUM WHERE EVERYBODY COULD SEE IT. 
          I'M A LITTLE WORRIED THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS MIGHT HAPPEN TO ME. 
          'CAUSE I PLAY IT LOOSE AND FAST. 
          THERE'S ALL KINDS OF, OF NUDE PICTURES OF ME LEAKED ALL OVER THE INTERNET, DOING ALL KINDS OF EMBARRASSING STUFF. 
          STUFF THAT I'M ASHAMED THAT I'VE EVEN DONE. 
          BUT I'M WORRIED IF SOMEBODY SHARES THAT WILL DALLAS PROSECUTE THE SAME THAT THEY DO IN CANADA, HAWAII COUNTY, MINNESOTA, THEY ARE PRUDENT. 
          AND LISTEN, NICK ADE'S SON, OR EXCUSE ME, 9-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER, AND THIS WHOLE FIASCO GOT BUSTED FOR A DIRTY ANALYSIS FOR COCAINE. 
          SO THOSE GUYS ARE ON COCAINE, AND THEY'RE WIFE SWAPPING, THEY'RE TAKING ECSTASY. 
          I'M JUST WORRIED. 
          I DON'T WANNA GET CAUGHT UP IN THIS SORT OF SITUATION, AND I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO SEND A PICTURE OF ME IN A VULNERABLE POSITION AND, UH, CAUSE ME ISSUES. 
          SO, CAN I GET A GUARANTEE FROM THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IF SOMEBODY DOES TRY TO DO ANY SORT OF REVENGE PORNOGRAPHY ON ME, THAT THEY WILL ACTUALLY PUNISH, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT PERPETRATOR TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW? BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'VE LOST TRUST BECAUSE OF THE ARTURO MARTINEZ, AND THEN MY BEST FRIEND NICK, ADA, AND AARON AND MALTE, THEIR LIVES ARE CRUMBLING. 
          HE'S CHARGED WITH, YOU KNOW, POSSESSION OF COCAINE. 
          ONE'S CHARGED WITH REVENGE PORN. 
          I JUST DON'T WANNA GET CAUGHT UP IN ALL THIS. 
          AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THAT. 
          NOW YOU CAN JUST LEGALLY SMOKE MARIJUANA IN DALLAS. 
          THAT'S PRETTY COOL. 
          SO YOU GUYS BETTER BE VERY CHILL. 
          I KNOW YOU GUYS LIKE TO PULL OVER LATINO GUYS AND BLACK DUDES AND SAY THEY'RE ON WEED WHEN THEY'RE NOT, 
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BUT THEN THEIR FRIEND LEFT TO JOIN IN THERE AND YOU GUYS ARREST HIM. 
          SO NO MORE OF THAT. 
          JUST LET HIM HAVE A SNOOP DOGG FOUR 20 SESSION. 
          DO NOT BE ALL UPTIGHT. 
          AND, UH, CHIEF GARCIA'S LEAVING. 
          I'M GONNA MISS CHIEF GARCIA. 
          HE HAD ALL THOSE TATTOOS AND OF MADE ME A LITTLE SUSPECT OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE'S DOING WITH ALL THAT. 
          BUT LONG STORY SHORT, I JUST WANT THESE PEOPLE, IF THEY EVER POTENTIALLY SHARE A PICTURE OF ME SPREADING IT WIDE OPEN, THAT YOU GUYS WILL ATTACK THAT PERPETRATOR TO THE FULLEST EXTENT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. STEIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          YOUR COMMENT'S BEEN HEARD. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE HERE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOD BLESS. 
          AMERICA. 
          IF I CAN JUST ADD SOMETHING, PUBLISHING OR THREATENING TO PUBLISH AN INTIMATE VISUAL IMAGE IS A FELONY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          WELL, THANK YOU. 
          SEE, I, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WITHOUT I'M MM-HMM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EVEN THE THREAT OF IT. 
          YES, EVEN THE THREAT. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE A GOOD DAY. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          THANK YOU MR. STEIN. 
          HAVE A GREAT EVENING. 
          AT THIS TIME, I WANNA CALL, UH, RYAN BARRETT. 
          RYAN BARNETT. 
          DO WE HAVE A RYAN BARNETT IN PERSON OR ONLINE? WELL, RYAN, IF YOU CAN HEAR US AGAIN, WE, WE, WE WILL HAVE A SPOT TO END THIS MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          WE WANNA HEAR FROM YOU. 
          UH, SO, UH, IF YOU ARE HERE, PLEASE COME AT THE END OR, UH, JOIN ONLINE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT I HAVE AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, WE ARE HERE FOR YOU. 
          UH, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO INVITE YOU AT THE VERY END OF THIS MEETING. 
          THERE WILL BE ANOTHER TIME WHERE WE INVITE PUBLIC COMMENT AND, UH, THERE'LL BE, UH, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, THERE WILL BE THAT SPACE. 
          WE WILL NOW MOVE ON, UH, TO THE APPROVAL OF OUR DECEMBER 10TH, 2024 BOARD, CPOB MINUTES. 
          UH, SO IF YOU COULD, UH, THE BOARD, IF YOU COULD READ THOSE, UH, AND, UH, WHENEVER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, I'D LIKE A MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE BOARD MINUTES. 
          DECEMBER 10TH, 24 CHAIR. 
          YES, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS READ. 
          SO MOVED OF A SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, THE AGENDA OR THE MINUTES SEEN? THERE'S NONE. 
          UH, LET'S VOTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 10TH MIN DECEMBER 10TH MINUTES. 
          SAY, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED. 
          THE CHAIR WOULD NOW LIKE TO REC RECOGNIZE JASON JOHNSON FOR A BRIEF PRESENTATION REGARDING INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES, UH, THAT WILL BE OFFERED TO, TO CPOB, UH, MEMBERS. 
          UH, AND, UH, THE REASON WE PUT THIS FIRST IS THAT THERE MIGHT BE A TIME, UM, WHERE DURING THE MEETING BOARD MEMBERS WILL MEET WITH, UH, THE IT TEAM. 
          SO I WANNA GIVE YOU A HEADS UP. 
          AND, UH, MR. JOHNSON, MR. JOHNSON, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          HELLO, HOW YOU DOING? UM, MY NAME'S JASON AND, UH, WE HAVE DEVIN OVER HERE. 
          WE'RE HERE TO ASSIST WITH, UH, WHATEVER COMPUTER YOU NEEDS YOU HAVE. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF ISSUES, YOU COULD REACH US, UM, AT 2 1 4 6 7 0 1 2, 3 4, OPTION FOUR. 
          THAT'S THE NUMBER YOU JUST CALLED. 
          AND LET 'EM KNOW WHAT ISSUES YOU'RE HAVING AND SOMEONE FROM MY TEAM WILL REACH OUT WITH YOU. 
          COULD YOU REPEAT THAT NUMBER, MR. JOHNSON, ONE MORE TIME? YES. 
          IT'S 2 1 4 6 7 0 1 2, 3, 4. 
          OPTION NUMBER FOUR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND, UH, JUST SO THE BOARD MEMBERS KNOWS, I, UH, THERE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE, UM, ADVANCEMENTS WITH THE OCPO AS FAR AS PREPARING OUR BOARD TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE INTERNALLY, BUT ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THE, THE, UH, VIDEO FOOTAGE. 
          UM, AND SO, UH, WE HAVE BEEN, UM, ENTRUSTED A, A LAPTOP THAT, UH, EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN GIVEN. 
          AND THIS WILL BE A GREAT TIME FOR YOU DURING THE MEETING TO TAKE THAT LAPTOP AND MAKE SURE YOU CAN LOG IN, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR EMAIL, AND ALSO TO SHAREPOINT. 
          UH, BECAUSE AS THE MEETINGS GO ON, UH, WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO HAVE THE FULL, UH, ACCESS TO, UM, WHAT THE OFFICE IS, UH, PRIVY TO. 
          AND THIS LAPTOP WILL GIVE THAT. 
          SO, TAKE, TAKE, TAKE ADVANTAGE, MAKE SURE WE HAVE QUORUM AT ALL TIMES. 
          BUT, UM, TAKE ADVANTAGE AND, AND GO MEET WITH IT, AND GET YOUR, UH, LAPTOP SET UP, UH, SO THAT WE ARE BETTER PREPARED AS THE MEETINGS GO ON. 
          WE'RE GONNA MOVE, UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, NOW TO ITEM, UM, UH, ITEM SIX. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE A, A VERY IMPORTANT PERSON AMONG US TODAY. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S A VERY, IT'S, IT'S A PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO WELCOME, UH, THE INTERIM CHIEF MICHAEL IGO, UH, TO, UH, COME TO OUR MEETING. 
          UH, AND WE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE A BUSY MAN, BUT, UM, 
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WE WANTED THE BOARD A CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW YOU AND A CHANCE, UH, TO, UH, FOR YOU TO SHARE A LITTLE ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR VISION, UH, TO THE BOARD. 
          AND SO WE'LL GIVE, UH, INTERIM CHIEF, I GO THE FLOOR, HOWEVER LONG HE, HE NEEDS TO, TO SHARE WHAT HE'D LIKE TO SHARE. 
          AND THERE WILL BE A TIME FOR THE BOARD IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM. 
          GRANTED, WE DIDN'T GIVE HIM ANY, ANYTHING AHEAD OF TIME, SO BE RESPECTFUL OF, OF THAT. 
          AND HOPEFULLY HE, HE CAN COME BACK TO OTHER, OTHER MEETINGS. 
          BUT, UH, THE CHAIR I CAN RECOGNIZE, UH, INTERIM CHIEF IGO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 
          NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          CHAIR. 
          UH, DAVIDSON, IT'S, IT'S MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE WITH YOU GUYS THIS EVENING. 
          UM, MANY YEARS AGO, I SAT IN THE SAME SPOT AS MAJOR GREER AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THESE BOARDS WHEN I WAS IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          SO I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU HAVE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE BOARD, AND NOT ONLY TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, I'LL HOLD MY COMMENTS FOR NOW, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS WE'VE GOTTA GET TO, BUT I'LL DEFINITELY PLAN ON COMING BACK TO THE BOARD, CHAIRING SOME OF MY VISION. 
          I THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I KNOW JUST THE BOARD KNOWS AS WELL. 
          WE HAVE SET UP QUARTERLY MEETINGS, UH, WITH, UH, MYSELF AND, UM, THE INTERIM POLICE CHIEF, UH, IGO. 
          AND, AND SO WE'LL BE, UH, GIVING REPORTS OF THOSE MEETINGS. 
          AND, AND, AND PRIOR TO THOSE, I'LL OF COURSE REACH OUT TO THE BOARD, UH, TO, UH, TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF WHAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS, UH, CHIEF, UH, INTERIM CHIEF IGO DURING THAT TIME. 
          BUT, UH, BEFORE WE, UH, MOVE ON, I WANT TO GIVE THE FLOOR TO THE BOARD ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR ANYTHING I'D LIKE TO SAY, UH, WHILE THE INTERIM CHIEF IS HERE AMONG US, WELL, UM, CHIEF IGO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. 
          UM, I THINK IT MEANS, UM, A LOT TO ME AS A BOARD MEMBER TO SEE YOU AND THE OTHER OFFICERS HERE. 
          I WAS ON THE PRIOR POLICE, UH, REVIEW BOARD, WHICH REALLY DIDN'T DO VERY MUCH, BUT AT LEAST MET, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT DID MEET. 
          AND WE HAD LOTS OF POLICE OFFICERS WHO CAME AND PARTICIPATED. 
          AND, UM, I AM SO GLAD TO SEE, AND MAJOR GREER HAS TOLD US THAT HE'S COMMITTED TO BEING AT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR MEETINGS, WHICH I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME AS A BOARD MEMBER TO GET THAT. 
          MY MAIN, UH, UH, CHIEF GARCIA CAME TO US FROM SAN JOSE, WHERE HE SAID HE HAD POLICE OVERSIGHT AND, AND, AND ISSUES WHERE HE WOULD MEET WITH THE BOARD. 
          AND MY IMPRESSION WAS THAT HE WAS SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING. 
          BUT THE ISSUE THAT I AND SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE FOUND IS HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE POLICE? BECAUSE I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE RANK AND FILE HAVE BUY-IN TO WHAT WE ARE DOING. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD ENOUGH TO HAVE BUY-IN FROM YOU AND NOT YOUR OFFICERS. 
          SO WHAT, AND THIS MAY NOT BE A FAIR QUESTION, AND I'LL LET YOU COME BACK AT ANOTHER TIME AND ANSWER IT. 
          UH, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE TO GET US TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOUR POLICE OFFICERS, UH, UNDERSTAND, APPRECIATE WHAT WE'RE DOING, WILL COOPERATE WITH US IN THE FIVE YEARS OR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS THAT THIS BOARD HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE? WE'VE HAD ONE POLICE OFFICER VOLUNTARILY SPEAK TO US IN TERMS OF AN INVESTIGATION. 
          SO I'LL LET YOU RESPOND. 
          NO, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 
          AND, UM, I RECALL SOME OF OUR PAST CONVERSATIONS, SO IT'S GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          IT'S GOOD TO SEE AS WELL AS, AGAIN, UM, I DEFINITELY PICKED THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THIS JOB, WHO'S SITTING TO MY LEFT. 
          I'VE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENCE IN HIM. 
          AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD AS WELL. 
          UM, I THINK HE UNDERSTANDS MY VISION. 
          WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK EVEN IN, IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE AT, AT TIMES WORKED IN SILOS WHERE WE'RE NOT COMMUNICATING THE INFORMATION REALLY FROM MY LEVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE OFFICERS ON THE STREET. 
          SO TO SAY THAT I, I CAN DEFINITELY SEE WHERE THAT COMMUNICATION WOULD BE A PIECE HERE WITH THE BOARD AS WELL. 
          AND SO IT, IT'S MY INTENT GOING FORWARD TO HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY AND FULL COMMUNICATION WITH THE TEAM. 
          SO THAT MEANS SITTING DOWN WITH THE BOARD AND, AND COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO LET THE, LET ALL THE OFFICERS ON THE DEPARTMENT KNOW SOME OF THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO WITH. 
          I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH THE BOARD ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW WE, HOW IT DEVELOPS ALONG THE LINE. 
          IT'S, AND I DON'T MEAN THIS IN A, IN A, IN A BAD WAY, BUT IT'S EASY TO HAVE CONCEPTS. 
          IT'S, IT'S HARDER TO PUT 'EM INTO PLACE. 
          AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UH, WELL, INTERIM CHIEF IS HERE. 
          I HAVE ONE. 
          YES. 
          MR. RA. 
          ALLISON KRINER. 
          ALLEN, DISTRICT NINE. 
          I WANNA ECHO MY COLLEAGUES. 
          UH, AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR COMING TO VISIT WITH US. 
          AND, UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          WHAT DO YOU, AS YOU TAKE CHARGE OF, OF THIS REALLY LARGE DEPARTMENT IN A REALLY VERY LARGE CITY, UM, WHERE DO YOU SEE SOME OF THE MAIN FRICTION POINTS BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY? WHERE DO YOU, HOW DO YOU FRAME THAT AND, AND WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE BEST WAY TO GO FORWARD? AS FAR AS THE DEPARTMENT IS? YEAH, I THINK THAT, AND THANK YOU. 
          I I THINK THIS REALLY TOUCHES ON SOME OF THE BRIEFING WE'RE GONNA GIVE TONIGHT. 
          AND THAT WE WORK VERY HARD AS A DEPARTMENT AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK HARD, NOT ONLY WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THE COMMUNITY ITSELF. 
          AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT, UM, THAT THEY SEE MY FACE, THEY HEAR WHERE I WANT TO TAKE THIS DEPARTMENT, AND THEN WE KEEP THOSE OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATION. 
          UM, THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO HEAR FROM US. 
          THEY WANT TO SEE US. 
          THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING AND WE'RE, WE REALLY NEED THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OLD MODEL OF POLICING, WHICH, UM, WE'VE BEEN PAST THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT, WAS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID EVERYTHING. 
          AND WE'D LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE WOULDN'T REACT TO THAT. 
          UM, AND IT IS JUST THE OPPOSITE. 
          UM, I'VE GOTTA HAVE THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, RIGHT, WRONG, OR INDIFFERENT. 
          I'VE GOTTA BRING 'EM TO THE TABLE WHEN WE DISCUSS POLICIES THAT AFFECT THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I THINK THOSE ARE JUST SOME GOOD WAYS TO BRIDGE THOSE GAPS, INCREASE THAT TRANSPARENCY, THAT TRUST, THAT WE NEED TO HEAR FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD BEFORE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MORE, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? MR. MAPLES, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I DO. 
          I DO. 
          I DO. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING. 
          UH, I MET YOU AT THE, UH, D TWO CHRISTMAS CELEBRATION. 
          UM, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN, THERE ALWAYS WILL BE TRUST ISSUES BETWEEN CITIZENS AND THE POLICE. 
          THAT'S NEVER GOING AWAY. 
          I ASK THAT WHEN YOU HAVE MEETINGS SET WITH THIS BOARD, PLEASE KEEP THOSE MEETINGS UNLESS SOMETHING ELSE THAT DEMANDS YOUR ATTENTION COMES UP. 
          BECAUSE JUST LIKE YOUR OFFICERS ARE THE FACE OF THE POLICE, WE TOO ARE THE FACE OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY WILL COME TO US AND STOP US ON THE STREET AND ASK DIFFERENT TYPES OF QUESTIONS. 
          SO COMMUNICATION AND TRUST IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE MUST HAVE. 
          AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO TRUST YOU. 
          I WANT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT IF I NEED SOMETHING FROM YOU, I CAN GET IT. 
          AND IF YOU NEED SOMETHING FROM ME, YOU CAN GET IT. 
          SO, AGAIN, WELCOME AND WE WILL DO, UH, WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A LASTING RELATIONSHIP. 
          AND I TOO AGREE THAT MAN, SITTING TO YOUR LEFT IS OUTSTANDING. 
          IT WAS GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. 
          ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? YES, YES, OF COURSE. 
          I'M NEW. 
          UH, MY NAME IS JENNY KING AND I'M IN DISTRICT 10, BUT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE NORTHEAST POLICE SUBSTATION AND YOUR TEAM OVER THERE. 
          UM, I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING YOUR LEADERSHIP 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T MET THEM YET. 
          I WAS VERY DELIGHTED TO SEE IT WAS TWO WOMEN, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          AND, UH, I HAVE SEEN THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN MY DISTRICT BE AS RESPONSIVE AS YOU CAN BE, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE UNDERSTAFFED, BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN TO THE POLICE, UH, BOXING GYM OVER THERE. 
          AND I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN COMMUNITY POLICING. 
          SO I, I KNOW THAT I PROBABLY SPEAK FOR MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU AND DEEPENING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH MAJOR GREER AND YOUR TEAM. 
          AND, AND SO I KNOW YOU HAVE A HARD JOB. 
          AND, UM, ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT THIS BOARD IS WE, WE CERTAINLY INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS, BUT WE ALSO ENCOURAGE COMMENDATIONS. 
          SO HOPE WE CAN DO MORE OF THAT AND, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT DO NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, UH, WE CAN CONTINUE DOING THAT. 
          BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND, AND TO YOUR TEAM MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          ANY FINAL COMMENTS AT THIS TIME FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS? SEEING THERE IS NONE, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH IN TERM CHIEF FOR BEING HERE. 
          AGAIN, IT'S NOT LOST ON US. 
          UH, YOUR TIME IS PRECIOUS. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU ALSO FOR, UH, VOICING THAT THERE'S A CHANCE YOU'LL COME BACK AND WE CAN BEGIN THIS CONVERSATION 
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ON HOW TO SERVE THIS CITY TO THE BEST OF THAT WE CAN. 
          SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME HERE. 
          WE, UH, WE'RE GONNA NOW MOVE, UH, ON TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM SEVEN. 
          UH, BUT BEFORE THAT, I JUST WANT TO GIVE THE BOARD A, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, A POINT OF REFERENCE AS, UH, WE WILL SOON HEAR A PRESENTATION. 
          UH, AND I WANNA GIVE THE FLOOR TO JONATHAN MAPLES ONE MORE TIME, JUST, UH, 'CAUSE AT THE END OF EVERY MEETING WHEN WE GET TO THE DATA SECTION, UH, YOU'VE ASKED THE SAME QUESTION FOR ABOUT FIVE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS, I DUNNO, AS LONG, AS LONG AS YOU'VE MANY, MANY MONTHS. 
          AND, UM, WE, UH, THE, WE ASKED THE POLICE, UH, DPD TO, UH, HELP US WITH THIS QUESTION, WHICH I HOPE YOU CAN RE UH, RESPOND TO HERE IN A SECOND. 
          AND, UH, THEY'VE SENT A, A, A PERSON FROM SEATTLE, A A CONSULTANT, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT AS WELL, UH, WHO CAN SHARE INSIGHT INTO THAT. 
          UH, AND FOR THE BOARD TO HAVE REFERENCE IF YOU, IF YOU TURN TO, UH, TAB SEVEN ON YOUR, UM, IN YOUR PACKET, YOU CAN SEE THE DATA THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO, UM, THE BOARD, UH, FOR, UH, MONTHS NOW. 
          AND, UH, HATS OFF TO THE OFFICE. 
          'CAUSE THEY'VE EXPANDED SOME OF THAT DATA, WHICH WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT LATER, LATER. 
          BUT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO LOOK THROUGH THAT DATA IN TAB SEVEN, UH, DURING, UH, THIS NEXT PRESENTATION. 
          UH, SO I WANTED TO MAKE THAT AWARE TO THE BOARD THIS TIME. 
          AND, UH, ALSO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS A, A PRESENTATION BY MR. BOB SCALES, UH, ON RACIAL DISPARITY IN THE DPD MONTHLY ARRESTS BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          SO, UM, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES, WILL YOU, UH, BEGIN JUST BY A, A, ASKING THE QUESTIONS YOU ALWAYS ASK. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE, THE CHAIR WILL, UH, REP WILL, UH, RECOGNIZE, UH, MR. BOB SCALES, UH, THE FLOOR WILL BE YOURS TO, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING, UH, YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          SO, MR. MAPLES, UM, GOOD EVENING. 
          SO FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, BUT AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD, THIS PARTICULAR REPORT DISTURBS ME AND IT DISTURBS, IT DISTURBS ME TO THE FACT THAT I'VE ASKED FOR, I'VE ASKED THE CHAIRMAN TO REACH OUT TO TRY TO FIND OUT AND DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SO, JUST SO YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE ASK IS. 
          SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS BREAKDOWN OF NUMBERS, MONTHLY ARREST BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, RACE, SEX, AND ZIP CODE, DECEMBER, 2024, AMERICAN INDIAN OR ALASKAN NATIVE EIGHT ASIAN 11 NATIVE HAWAIIAN PACIFIC ISLANDER, FOUR, MIDDLE EASTERN, SEVEN WHITE, 444 HISPANIC OR LATINO, 813 BLACK 1,214. 
          THAT'S A PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM. 
          AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY THAT IS, AND I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO FIX IT. 
          IF IT'S A MATTER OF OVER POLICING, THEN WE HAVE THE CHIEF AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE, THEN I JUST WANT AN EXPLANATION AS TO HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT BECAUSE OF DISPARITY. 
          AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE DISTURBING TO ME. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. SCALES. 
          THE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, AND THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 
          AND WE CAN ALSO HAVE THE PRESENTATION, UH, IT'S ON OUR SCREEN, BUT ALSO IT'S AVAILABLE, UH, THERE AS WELL. 
          SO THE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME. 
          UM, CHIEF IGO, UH, ASKED ME TO, UH, COME AND PRESENT TO YOU TODAY, UH, BECAUSE I HAVE, UM, UH, A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, UM, WORKING IN SEATTLE WITH, UH, DIFFERENT CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT GROUPS LOOKING AT RACIAL DISPARITY ISSUES. 
          UM, I ALSO, UM, UH, WORK WITH, UH, DALLAS PD ON THEIR FORCE ANALYSIS SYSTEM THAT WE BUILT FOR THEM. 
          AND WHAT I'M GONNA DO TODAY IS, UH, I ALSO RECEIVED SOME QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WERE SENT TO ME FROM THE BOARD THAT I HOPE TO ADDRESS DURING MY PRESENTATION. 
          UH, MY GOAL IS I'M, I'M HERE FOR YOU. 
          SO, UH, I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION AND A LOT OF DATA TO PRESENT. 
          UM, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY, PLEASE DON'T WAIT TILL THE END. 
          UH, UH, JUST, JUST FEEL FREE TO PIPE UP AND IF I'M NOT COVERING ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, JUST TELL ME TO MOVE ON, UH, 'CAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL, UH, INTRODUCE MYSELF. 
          UM, SO I'M THE, THE CEO OF POLICE STRATEGIES, LLC. 
          AND WHAT WE DO IS WE HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES COLLECT, ANALYZE, 
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AND REPORT ON MOSTLY THEIR USE OF FORCE DATA, BUT WE DO A LOT OF RACIAL DISPARITY ANALYSIS, UH, FOR STOPS AND ARRESTS AND SEARCHES AND USES OF FORCE AS WELL FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, MY BACKGROUND, I WAS A DEPUTY PROSECUTOR IN KING COUNTY, WASHINGTON IN THE 1990S. 
          I ALSO WORKED FOR THE US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, FOR 14 YEARS. 
          I WORKED FOR THE CITY OF SEATTLE. 
          I WAS FIRST A PUBLIC SAFETY POLICY ADVISOR TO THE SEATTLE MAYOR. 
          I ALSO WORKED IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND I REPRESENTED THE CITY, UH, OF SEATTLE DURING THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PATTERN OF PRACTICE INVESTIGATION IN 2011. 
          THAT LED TO A CONSENT DECREE THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS STILL UNDER. 
          AND, UM, I WAS APPOINTED TO BE THE COMPLIANCE COORDINATOR TO OVERSEE THE REFORMS IN THE DEPARTMENT FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF THE CONSENT DECREE. 
          UH, UH, FOR THE LAST DECADE I'VE BEEN WORKING, UH, UH, WITH POLICE STRATEGIES, LLC TO HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR DATA. 
          UM, I WANTED TO TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE DATA AND RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU AND THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          UM, SOME OF WHICH WE CREATED. 
          UM, SO OUR FORCE ANALYSIS SYSTEM, UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WE HAVE LOOKING AT, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA IS, IS THE LACK OF DATA. 
          UM, BECAUSE ALL, FOR ALL THE IT SYSTEMS THAT POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE, THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED FOR STATISTICAL ANALYSIS, RIGHT? THEY'RE DESIGNED TO TRACK OFFENDERS THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND CALLS FOR SERVICE AND SO FORTH. 
          SO IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE TO GET USEFUL DATA FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. 
          SO WITH OUR FORCE ANALYSIS SYSTEM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO TO THE INCIDENT REPORTS THEMSELVES AND EXTRACT THE DATA, UH, MANUALLY. 
          UM, SO WITH DALLAS PD, WE REVIEW, UM, THOUSANDS OF INCIDENT REPORTS, UM, EACH YEAR WE ALSO LOOK AT I PRO DATA THAT I KNOW YOUR OFFICE HAS ACCESS TO, AND WE EXTRACT THE DATA, WE EXTRACT UP TO 150 DIFFERENT DATA FIELDS FROM EACH INCIDENT. 
          AND THEN WE CREATE A SERIES OF DASHBOARDS, UM, FOR, UM, PUT THAT UP THERE, UH, FOR BOTH INTERNALLY FOR THE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS PUBLIC DASHBOARDS. 
          UM, AND WITH THESE DASHBOARDS, YOU CAN ANSWER VIRTUALLY ANY QUESTION THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT, UH, HOW AND WHY DALLAS PD OFFICERS USE FORCE. 
          AND WE HAVE DATA GOING BACK TO 2021, AND THE DASHBOARDS ARE UPDATED QUARTERLY, AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS A WEBSITE. 
          UM, UH, THE, THE LINK IS, IS IN THIS SLIDE. 
          AND THEN THERE ARE A SERIES OF THREE DASHBOARDS WHERE YOU CAN LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, UM, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE TYPES OF FORCE INCIDENTS THAT ARE USED, UH, IN THE LOCATION AND TIME, ET CETERA. 
          SO THERE'S A WEALTH OF INFORMATION, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT AT THOSE DASHBOARDS IN REAL TIME, IF YOU LIKE, AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, THE, UM, THE DATA COLLECTION MODEL. 
          A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT USE OF FORCE OR STOPS OR ARRESTS, THEY'RE SIMPLY COUNTING THINGS. 
          THEY'RE COUNTING THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT IT HAPPENS. 
          SO COUNTING THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT FORCE HAPPENS, OR COUNTING THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT OFFICERS USE TASERS. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY, YOU REALLY CAN'T UNDERSTAND MUCH ABOUT USE OF FORCE BY JUST COUNTING THE NUMBER OF TIMES THINGS HAPPEN. 
          SO WHAT WE LOOK AT IS THE FULL CONTEXT OF THE FORCE INCIDENT. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE OFFICER DECIDED TO USE FORCE, WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WERE THE, UM, CIRCUMSTANCES, THE THREAT LEVEL, THE CRIME LEVEL, ET CETERA, WHAT WERE THE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE OFFICER AND THE SUBJECT DURING THE FORCE INCIDENT? AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE FORCE INCIDENT? AND WE LOOK AT THINGS AT THE INCIDENT LEVEL, THE SUSPECT LEVEL, AND THE OFFICER LEVEL. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE, UH, SUSPECT BEHAVIOR IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE OFFICER BEHAVIOR. 
          SO WE COLLECT ALL THE, ALL THE INFORMATION ON THAT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT WE DO THAT IS UNIQUE IS THAT WE ANALYZE THE DATA, UM, USING WHAT WE CALL LEGAL ALGORITHMS, BUT BASICALLY IT'S THE US SUPREME COURT CASE OF GRAHAM V CONNOR, WHICH, UH, IS THE FLOOR BY BY WHICH ALL USE OF FORCE THAT CAN'T GO BELOW THAT, THAT LEGAL STANDARD. 
          AND WE, WE EVALUATE EACH INCIDENT AND GIVE IT A SCORE BASED ON THE JUSTIFICATION, WHETHER IT'S POTENTIALLY EXCESSIVE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE KEY FINDINGS I WANTED TO JUST SORT OF HIGHLIGHT IS THAT WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT USES OF FORCE ARE LINKED TO ARRESTS. 
          SO THE MORE USES OF FORCE OR THE MORE ARRESTS A DEPARTMENT HAS OR AN OFFICER HAS, THE MORE USES OF FORCE THEY WILL HAVE. 
          UM, AND ON AVERAGE, ABOUT 4% OF ALL ARRESTS RESULT IN A USE OF FORCE. 
          AND THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO GET THAT TO ZERO, UM, NO MATTER HOW MUCH DEESCALATION TRAINING YOU DO AND OTHER THINGS, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S, THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING ARRESTED, SO THEY GENERALLY, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ARRESTED. 
          SO THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF SUSPECTS WHO ARE GOING TO FLEE FROM THE POLICE, WHO ARE GOING TO RESIST ARREST OR THREATEN OR ASSAULT THE OFFICERS. 
          SO 
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USE OF FORCE IS, IS, IS A, A NECESSARY AND JUSTIFIED, UM, IN, IN ABOUT 4% OF, OF ALL ARRESTS. 
          AND WHAT THIS ALSO MEANS IS THAT IF YOU HAVE OFFICERS WHO ARE VERY PROACTIVE, WHO ARE ON PATROL, WHO ARE MAKING LOTS ARRESTS, I GUARANTEE YOU THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE USES OF FORCE THAN A DETECTIVE WHO'S SITTING BEHIND A DESK AND MAYBE MAKE 10 ARRESTS A YEAR. 
          UM, SO WE CAN'T JUDGE AN OFFICER SIMPLY BY THE NUMBER OF USES OF FORCE THEY HAVE. 
          WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FULL CONTEXT. 
          UM, WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE, THERE'S, EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS A GROUP, UH, OF HIGH PERFORMING OFFICERS THAT MAKE LOTS OF ARRESTS, AND THEY TEND TO MAKE UP, UH, AT LEAST ABOUT A QUARTER OF ALL THE USE OF FORCE IN THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT WAS WHETHER, UM, UH, FOR USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS, UM, UH, DO THE DEMOGRAPHICS CHANGE BASED ON WHETHER THE OFFICER INITIATED THE CONTACT VERSUS A CALLS FOR SERVICE? AND SO THE, THE DALLAS PD DATA, WHICH WE HAVE GOING BACK TO 2021, UM, SHOWS THAT ABOUT, UH, TWO THIRDS OF USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS ARE THE RESULT OF A CALL FOR SERVICE RATHER THAN, UH, AN OFFICER INITIATED CONTACT. 
          AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RACIAL, UH, DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE SUBJECTS, WE SEE VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE, UM, IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS, WHETHER THE USE OF FORCE WAS INITIATED FROM AN OFFICER CONTACT OR A CALL FOR SERVICE. 
          UM, AS WE TALK ABOUT RACIAL DISPARITIES, UH, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS, I MEAN, I STARTED, I STARTED WORKING ON THIS WITH THE SEATTLE RACIAL PROFILING TASK FORCE IN, IN 2001. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE, UM, THE, THE ADVANCEMENT IN TERMS OF THE METHODOLOGIES AND, AND, AND DATA AVAILABILITY HAS NOT ADVANCED MUCH SINCE THEN. 
          SO, SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT VERY BASIC INFORMATION ON THIS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT THERE ARE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          NO QUESTION. 
          NOT ONLY IN DALLAS, BUT IN EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY, BUT THERE ARE ALSO RACIAL DISPARITIES THROUGHOUT SOCIETY. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT INCOME LEVELS, UNEMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE, HOUSING, YOU'LL ALWAYS FIND RACIAL DISPARITIES IN OUR SYSTEM. 
          SO THE QUESTION ISN'T DO RACIAL DISPARITIES EXIST? THE THE ISSUE IS WHY DO THEY, WHY DO RACIAL DISPARITIES EXIST AND WHAT IS THE CAUSE UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CAUSE IS, WE CAN'T DEVELOP ANY TYPE OF SOLUTION FOR REDUCING THE DISPARITIES. 
          SO WHAT I WORK ON A LOT IS, IS TRYING TO DETERMINE THE ROOT CAUSE OF WHY THESE DISPARITIES EXIST. 
          UM, SO THE OTHER QUESTION IS, OKAY, WELL, WE KNOW WE HAVE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 
          HOW CAN WE REDUCE THEM? AND AGAIN, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE ROOT CAUSE OF THOSE DISPARITIES. 
          SO ONE, ONE ARGUMENT IS, WELL, IT'S, IT'S A PRODUCT OF THE WAR ON DRUGS, UM, DURING THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES THAT, UH, DISPROPORTIONATELY INCARCERATED, UM, UH, PEOPLE OF COLOR, PRIMARILY YOUNG BLACK MEN. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE FOUND WITH, WITH STATES THAT HAVE, UH, LEGALIZED, UH, DRUGS LIKE MARIJUANA, UH, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN WASHINGTON AND CALIFORNIA, UM, WE FOUND THAT THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA WHERE THERE WERE LARGE RACIAL DISPARITIES DID NOT REDUCE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 
          SO WE SEE THE SAME DISPARITIES AND STOPS, ARRESTS AND INCARCERATIONS AFTER LEGALIZATION AS BEFORE. 
          UM, ANOTHER, UM, UH, CONCEPT IS THAT THE, UH, RACIAL DISPARITIES ARE CAUSED BY, UM, OFFICER BIAS AND RACIAL PROFILING. 
          AND, UM, AROUND ABOUT 2000, 2001, THIS WAS A, A NATIONAL ISSUE, UM, BASED ON SOME HIGH PROFILE INCIDENTS AND, AND, AND DOCUMENTED RACIAL PROFILING BY THE NEW JERSEY STATE PATROL. 
          AND MANY STATES AND, AND MANY, UM, POLICE DEPARTMENTS IMPLEMENTED BIAS-FREE POLICING POLICIES AND, UH, DID IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING AND OTHER TRAINING. 
          UM, AND THAT HAD ZERO IMPACT ON RACIAL DISPARITIES. 
          IN FACT, IN SOME JURISDICTIONS LIKE SEATTLE, THE RACIAL DISPARITIES ACTUALLY GOT WORSE AFTER THESE POLICIES WERE PUT INTO PLACE. 
          AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT THE, THE POLICIES DIDN'T DO ANYTHING NEW BECAUSE RACIAL PROFILING, RACIAL DISCRIMINATION IS ALREADY UNCONSTITUTIONAL. 
          UM, AND SO THERE'S NO DEPARTMENT IN THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD CONDONE RACIAL PROFILING OR BIAS POLICING, AND OFFICERS KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D GO AS FAR AS TO SAY NO DEPARTMENT, BUT NOT OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          RIGHT? YEAH, TRUE, TRUE. 
          SO, SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME EXTREME EXCEPTIONS. 
          AND, AND ONE, ONE EXCEPTION IS MARICOPA COUNTY, WHERE YOU HAD SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO, WHO PUBLICLY STATED THAT HE WAS RACIALLY PROFILING FOR IMMIGRATION PURPOSES. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT CORRECTION. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME EXTREME EXAMPLES, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, NO, NO ORGANIZATION 
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THAT I WORK WITH  AND, AND, AND CERTAINLY MY EXPERIENCE IN SEATTLE, UM, AND, AND, AND ALSO, IT, IT, IT'S, EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL. 
          SO, UM, WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT A POLICY THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T DO SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY UNCONSTITUTIONAL, IT PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE, WE SEE IN THE DATA. 
          UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON IS, IS THAT THE, THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MOST, MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          UM, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHO THEY INTERACT WITH FOR THE MOST PART. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, WITH THE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN, IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, ARE OFTENTIMES A FUNCTION OF RACIAL DISPARITIES WITHIN SOCIETY. 
          UM, SO IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR GROUP, UH, THAT IS, UH, UH, MORE INCLINED TO BE IN POVERTY OR LOW INCOME OR HOMELESS, THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE MOST LIKELY TO COME INTO CONTACT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, I LOOKED AT IN SEATTLE, I WROTE AN OP-ED FOR THE SEATTLE TIMES, AND I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS IN, IN SEATTLE AND KING COUNTY WASHINGTON. 
          AND MY, MY THESIS WAS, IF WE WANT TO REDUCE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA, WE SHOULD ADDRESS THE INEQUALITIES AND DISPARITIES IN OTHER ASPECTS OF SOCIETY. 
          UM, AND IF WE DO THAT, IT WILL, IT WILL EVENTUALLY, IT MAY TAKE A LONG TIME, BUT IT WILL EVENTUALLY REDUCE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN, IN OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. 
          UM, HAVING SAID THAT, WE WE'RE, WE'RE WE, WE, WE, OUR FOCUS NOW ON DATA COLLECTION ANALYSIS TO LOOK AT RACIAL PROFILING, UM, AND RACIAL, UM, DISPAR, UM, UH, DISCRIMINATION IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, IN 2001, I WORKED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL'S RACIAL PROFILING TASK FORCE. 
          WE FOCUSED A LOT ON THE ISSUE OF BENCHMARKING. 
          UM, AND WE'LL TALK, WE'LL TALK A LOT ABOUT BENCHMARKING IN TERMS OF MEASURING DISPARITIES. 
          UM, WE ALSO, UM, UH, REALLY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT A RACIAL DISPARITY DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY EQUAL RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. 
          SO AGAIN, WE, WE HAVE DISPARITIES IN SOCIETY, UM, AND DISPARITIES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA, BUT WE CAN'T AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE DISPARITIES ARE DUE TO BIAS OR RACIAL PROFILING OR DISCRIMINATION. 
          CERTAINLY, IT'S REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT A, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THAT DISPARITY IS DUE TO DISCRIMINATION AND BIAS, BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH, UM, WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT OFFICER DISCRETION, UM, VERSUS OFFICER DISCRIMINATION. 
          SO OFFICERS HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF DISCRETION WHEN IT COMES TO LOW LEVEL OFFENSES. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, MAKING A STOP FOR A TAILLIGHT OUT, OFFICERS MIGHT SEE HUNDREDS OF CARS EVERY DAY, UH, WITH A TAILLIGHT OUT, AND THEY CAN CHOOSE TO IGNORE. 
          UH, THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY STOP ALL OF THEM, SO THEY CAN CHOOSE TO IGNORE THEM, OR THEY CAN CHOOSE TO STOP THE PERSON FOR THE TAILLIGHT OUT. 
          SO THAT'S A HIGH DISCRETION. 
          IF THEY'RE RESPONDING TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT, UM, WHERE THERE'S AN INJURY, THEY MAY BE REQUIRED BY LAW TO MAKE AN ARREST, AND THERE WOULD BE NO DISCRETION INVOLVED IN THAT INCIDENT. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT DISPARITIES, IT'S IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON WHAT ARE THE DISPARITIES WHERE OFFICERS HAVE NO DISCRETION OR LITTLE DISCRETION VERSUS WHERE THEY HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF DISCRETION. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IN SEATTLE WAS WE, WE, WE TRIED TO FILL THE, THE DATA GAP. 
          AND ONE OF THE GAPS THAT WE HAD WAS THAT FOR TRAFFIC STOPS, WE HAD NO DATA ON STOPS THAT DID NOT RESULT IN A TICKET. 
          SO WE IMPLEMENTED A WRITTEN WARNING SYSTEM FOR TRAFFIC STOPS, AND THEN WE COLLECTED DATA ON THAT. 
          AND THAT HELPED TO REALLY HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW OFFICERS WERE MAKING STOPS AND NOT JUST WRITING TICKETS. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING WE DID WAS WE IMPLEMENTED A BIENNIAL POLICE PUBLIC CONTACT SURVEY, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE FEDERAL SURVEY WHERE WE, WE, UM, DID A, EVERY TWO YEARS WE WOULD INTERVIEW INDIVIDUALS WHO ACTUALLY HAD CONTACT WITH THE SEATTLE POLICE TO, UM, EVALUATE BOTH AS VICTIMS AND AS SUSPECTS, UM, AND TO EVALUATE THEIR INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE. 
          AND, AND WE, WE LEARNED A LOT OF VALUABLE, UM, THINGS ABOUT WHEN WE MADE CHANGES IN OUR POLICIES OR TRAINING, HOW THAT MIGHT HAVE IMPACTED POLICE INTERACTIONS WITH THE PUBLIC. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED A BIAS FREE POLICING POLICY AND ADDITIONAL TRAINING. 
          UM, SO NOW I'M GONNA START GETTING INTO THE DATA. 
          UM, SO, UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE BOARD. 
          AND, UH, THE QUESTION WAS, UM, DO, UM, DO THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF ARRESTEES, THE RACIAL DEMOGRAPHICS OF ARRESTEES DIFFER BASED ON, UH, THE OFFICER'S RACE. 
          AND SO I'LL JUST TRY TO SORT OF ORIENT YOU TO THESE, UM, UH, UH, GRAPHS HERE. 
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SO IF WE GO FIRST TO THE BOTTOM GRAPH, UM, ON THE LEFT YOU SEE THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS. 
          SO THESE ARE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF INCIDENTS, UH, WHERE, UH, AN ARREST WAS MADE. 
          UM, UH, I'M, I'M SORRY, WE'RE STARTING WITH USE OF FORCE WHERE USE OF FORCE, UH, AN OFFICER USED FORCE, UM, UH, 7,522 INCIDENTS BETWEEN 2021 AND 2023. 
          SO, UM, I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE THE, THE DEPARTMENT IS MAJORITY WHITE, UM, WHICH IS WHY MOST OF THE, UH, A LARGE PERCENTAGE OR NUMBER OF THE USE OF FORCE ARE WITH INVOLVE WHITE OFFICERS, UM, FOLLOWED BY HISPANIC, THEN BLACK OFFICERS, ASIAN OFFICERS, AND THE NATIVE AMERICAN OFFICERS. 
          UM, AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE, UH, THE SUBJECT RACE. 
          SO IF WE GO, UM, TO THE TOP, SO WE SEE WHITE OFFICERS, SO THESE ARE WHITE OFFICERS WHO USED FORCE. 
          SO WE SEE FOR, UH, BLACK SUSPECTS, UM, 55% OF ALL USE OF FORCE BY WHITE OFFICERS INVOLVED A BLACK SUSPECT. 
          AND FOR HISPANIC OFFICERS, IT WAS ALSO 55%. 
          FOR BLACK OFFICERS, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AT 61% ASIAN OFFICERS, 48%, AND NATIVE AMERICAN 55%. 
          SO THE WAY TO READ THIS IS THAT WHEN, WHEN OFFICERS USE FORCE, IF THE, IF THE OFFICER IS BLACK, THEY'RE SLIGHTLY MORE LIKELY TO, UH, HAVE USED FORCE AGAINST A BLACK SUSPECT THAN WHITE, HISPANIC, ASIAN, OR NATIVE AMERICAN OFFICERS. 
          UM, WHEREAS WHITE AND HISPANIC OFFICERS AND NATIVE AMERICANS ARE, ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IN TERMS OF THEIR, UM, THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THEIR SUBJECTS. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MR. SCALE'S? TRYING TO INTERRUPT HERE. 
          YOU'RE SAYING THE, THE PERCENTAGE RANGES FROM 55 TO 61%, IS THAT RIGHT? 55, 55 AND 61. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE WAY, THE WAY TO READ THIS IS IF YOU READ THEM ACROSS, IT'LL ADD UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          SO OF, OF, UM, SO ON AVERAGE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 55% OF ALL USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS ARE, ARE, UH, INVOLVE A BLACK SUSPECT AND, UM, SLIGHTLY HIGHER PERCENTAGE IF YOU'RE A BLACK OFFICER, AND SLIGHTLY LOWER IF YOU'RE AN ASIAN OFFICER. 
          BUT IT'S IN, IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGES, STATISTICS, WHATEVER IT IT APPEARS TO BE, THEY'RE ALL WITHIN THE SAME RANGE. 
          IS THAT RIGHT, OR AM I MISREADING THAT? IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT, DOESN'T MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE THE RACE OF THE ARRESTING OFFICER, RIGHT? I, YES. 
          AND SO, SO THIS WAS A QUESTION THAT, THAT THE BOARD HAD. 
          AND SO I, I, I, I BASICALLY TRIED TO, UH, DO THIS GRAPHICALLY, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE DATA ON OFFICER DEMOGRAPHICS AS WELL AS SUSPECT DEMOGRAPHICS. 
          BUT YES, THE WAY THAT I WOULD, I WOULD READ THIS IS THAT THERE IS NOT A LOT OF DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF SUSPECTS THAT HAVE FORCED USED AGAINST THEM BASED ON THE OFFICER'S RACE. 
          IT'S SLIGHTLY HIGHER FOR BLACK OFFICERS AND SLIGHTLY LOWER FOR ASIAN OFFICERS, BUT THESE DIFFERENCES ARE NOT VERY SIGNIFICANT. 
          UM, I ALSO HAVE DATA ON ARREST. 
          UM, SO FIRST WE WERE LOOKING AT USE OF FORCE, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT ARRESTS FROM 2020 TO 2024, ABOUT 32,000 ARRESTS. 
          SO WE READ THIS IN THE SAME WAY, UM, WHITE OFFICERS, UH, OR THE RACE OF THE OFFICERS VERSUS THE RACE OF THE SUSPECT. 
          UM, SO WE SEE A SORT OF A SIMILAR PATTERN HERE, UM, WHERE FOR WHITE, HISPANIC AND NATIVE AMERICAN OFFICERS, ABOUT 44% OF ALL THEIR ARRESTS INVOLVE A BLACK SUSPECT, AND IT'S SLIGHTLY HIGHER FOR BLACK OFFICERS AND SLIGHTLY LOWER FOR ASIAN OFFICERS. 
          UM, I WAS ALSO ASKED ABOUT, UM, THE RACE OF VICTIMS VERSUS THE RACE OF ARRESTEES. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS 2020 TO 2024, UH, TOTAL OF 5,152 ARRESTS. 
          SO, UM, THE VICTIM RACE IS LISTED ON THE LEFT AND THEN THE SUSPECT RACE AT THE TOP. 
          SO, UH, THE WAY TO READ THIS IS THAT, UM, BLACK VICTIMS, UM, REPORT, UH, OR 75% OF SUSPECTS WHO ARE ARRESTED FOR VICTIMIZING A BLACK VICTIM ARE, ARE BLACK. 
          UM, SO, UM, WHEREAS WE LOOK AT HISPANICS AND WE SEE THAT 53% OF HISPANIC VICTIMS REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS HISPANIC. 
          AND THEN FOR WHITE SUSPECTS, 32% OF WHITE SUSPECTS REPORT THAT THE, THE, I'M SORRY, VICTIMS REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS WHITE. 
          SO WE SEE, UM, A LOT OF, UM, SORT OF SIMILARITIES. 
          WERE SORT OF A PEAK WHERE YOU HAVE THE SAME RACE OF THE SUSPECT 
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AND THE VICTIM. 
          AND I THINK THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT A LOT OF THESE INCIDENTS, UM, INVOLVE SOME TYPE OF, OF, UH, VIOLENT CRIME. 
          SO YOU, YOU COULD, IT COULD BE A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER, IT COULD BE A NEIGHBOR OR A FRIEND SITUATION, IT COULD BE A WORKPLACE SITUATION. 
          UM, BUT GENERALLY WE SEE THAT, UM, CERTAINLY FOR, FOR BLACK INDIVIDUALS, A A MAJORITY OF BLACK VICTIMS, THE SUSPECT WAS BLACK THREE QUARTERS OF THE TIME. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UM, ANOTHER, UM, ISSUE OBVIOUSLY THAT THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT OUR, OUR, UM, UH, DRUG ARRESTS, UH, BY RACE. 
          AND SO I ALSO HAD THAT DATA IN SOME OF THE ARREST STATISTICS. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY DATA THAT I GOT FROM THE OPEN DATA PORTAL, WHICH I KNOW THAT THE BOARD HAS ALSO LOOKED AT SOME OF THAT DATA AS WELL. 
          SO THIS IS, UM, 11 YEARS OF DATA. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE VERY LARGE DATA SET. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, WE'RE READING THIS THE SAME WAY. 
          SO WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DRUGS THAT THE, UM, SUSPECT WAS ARRESTED FOR. 
          UM, AND SO WE CAN SEE THAT FOR, FOR MARIJUANA, BOTH CULTIVATED AND PROCESSED MARIJUANA, 63% OF ARRESTS, UM, FOR, FOR MARIJUANA WERE BLACK INDIVIDUALS. 
          WHEREAS IF WE GO DOWN TO METHAMPHETAMINE, UM, WHICH IS THE THIRD MOST COMMON DRUG, ONLY 28%, AND THEN WE SEE A PEAK FOR, UM, UH, OR A, A HIGHER AMOUNT FOR HISPANIC AND WHITE, UH, SUBJECTS FOR METHAMPHETAMINE. 
          SIMILAR FOR HEROIN ONLY 19% OF HEROIN ARRESTS ARE BLACK SUSPECTS, WHERE 50% OF THE ARRESTS WERE HISPANIC AND 31% WHITE. 
          UM, AND THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO, UM, PATTERNS THAT I'VE SEEN IN SEATTLE AND ELSEWHERE, WHERE, UM, UH, ALSO YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENCES FOR CRACK COCAINE VERSUS POWDER COCAINE, WHERE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF BLACK ARRESTS FOR CRACK COCAINE AND A LOWER PERCENTAGE FOR POWDER COCAINE. 
          UM, AND THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO, TO IN SEATTLE, WE DID A VERY EXTENSIVE STUDY LOOKING AT OPEN AIR DRUG MARKETS. 
          AND IN THE BELLTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WAS A HEAVILY CRACK MARKET AND IT WAS ABOUT 75%, UM, BLACK SUSPECTS. 
          AND THEN ON CAPITOL HILL IT WAS PREDOMINANTLY HEROIN MARKET, AND, UH, BOTH THE SELLERS AND THE, AND THE, AND THE USERS WERE PREDOMINANTLY WHITE. 
          UM, SO WE DO SEE DEMOGRAPHIC, UM, SIGNIFICANT DEMOGRAPHIC DIFFERENCES IN, UM, NOT, UH, IN, IN, BASED ON THE, ON THE TYPE OF DRUG INVOLVED. 
          SO NOW I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT POPULATION BENCHMARKS BECAUSE I WOULD SAY MOST, MOST MEDIA OUTLETS, UM, MOST ADVOCACY GROUPS WILL USE, UH, WHEN THEY LOOK AT RACIAL DISPARITIES IN LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA, THEY USE POPULATION, UH, AS A BENCHMARK. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT EVERY SINGLE AGENCY THAT I'VE LOOKED AT AND ALL THE, THE NATIONAL REPORTS AND SO FORTH THAT USE POPULATIONS AS A BENCHMARK, EVERY SINGLE JURISDICTION WILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT RACIAL DISPARITIES. 
          UM, AND THE REASON THAT PEOPLE USE, I THINK, CENSUS POPULATION IS THAT IT'S EASY TO OBTAIN, IT'S AN EASY BENCHMARK TO USE BECAUSE WE HAVE CENSUS DATA ON, ON EVERYTHING DOWN TO THE BLOCK GROUP LEVEL. 
          UM, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT IN ORDER TO USE POPULATION AS A BENCHMARK TO MEASURE RACIAL DISPARITIES, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A NUMBER OF VERY UNREASONABLE ASSUMPTIONS. 
          AND ONE OF THOSE ASSUMPTIONS IS THAT ONLY CITY RESIDENTS ARE STOPPED, CITED, ARRESTED, USE OF FORCE, ET CETERA. 
          UM, BECAUSE YOU'RE USING THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE POPULATION OF DALLAS. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO USE THAT AS YOUR BENCHMARK, THEN YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THAT NOBODY FROM OUTSIDE DALLAS COMES IN AND COMMITS A CRIME AND GETS STOPPED OR ARRESTED, WHICH IS PRETTY UNREASONABLE. 
          AND WE'LL SEE SOME DATA ON THAT. 
          UM, YOU ALSO HAVE TO ASSUME IF YOU USE POPULATION AS A BENCHMARK, THAT EVERYONE IN THE CITY IS EQUALLY LIKELY TO BE STOPPED OR ARRESTED REGARDLESS OF THEIR AGE, RACE, AND GENDER, BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S IN THE POPULATION, INCLUDING CHILDREN IN NURSERY SCHOOL, INCLUDING PEOPLE IN SENIOR CENTERS. 
          AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE EXTREMELY UNLIKELY TO BE STOPPED AND ARRESTED BY THE POLICE. 
          UH, BUT THEY'RE IN THE POPULATION. 
          SO THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN YOUR BENCHMARK IF THEY'RE NOT AT RISK OF BEING STOPPED BY THE POLICE. 
          THEY SHOULDN'T BE IN YOUR BENCHMARK, BUT THEY ARE WITH POPULATION. 
          UM, ANOTHER ASSUMPTION THAT PEOPLE MAKE USING POPULATION BENCHMARKS IS THAT ANY DISPARITY THAT YOU SEE IS DUE TO OFFICER BIAS. 
          AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION BECAUSE, UH, CERTAINLY I I WOULD NEVER DENY THAT OFFICER BIAS DOESN'T, DOESN'T EXIST, RIGHT? THERE IS RACIAL PROFILING THAT GOES ON. 
          SOME OFFICERS ARE BIASED. 
          THE ISSUE IS NOT DOES IT HAPPEN. 
          THE ISSUE IS HOW OFTEN DOES IT HAPPEN AND WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT 
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IT. 
          UM, AND SO WE CAN'T MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT ANY DISPARITY IN THE DATA IS AN AUTOMATIC INDICATOR OF BIAS. 
          SO HERE'S ONE EXAMPLE OF WHY WE CAN'T USE POPULATION AS A BENCHMARK. 
          SO THIS IS ARREST DATA FROM 2014 TO 2024, AND WE SEE THAT ONE THIRD OF ALL ARRESTEES BY DALLAS PD ARE NOT DALLAS RESIDENTS. 
          SO A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF, OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT COME TO DALLAS, UH, TO COMMIT CRIMES ARE NOT FROM DALLAS. 
          UM, ANOTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS THE, IS THE, WHO IS THE COMMUNITY REPORTING TO THE POLICE AS A CRIME SUSPECT? UM, BECAUSE WE EXPECT THE POLICE RIGHT TO RESPOND TO 9 1 1 CALLS AND TO APPREHEND THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT COMMIT A CRIME. 
          AND SO WHEN SOMEONE CALLS THE POLICE, UH, TO REPORT A CRIME AND THEY KNOW THE SUSPECT OR, OR SEEN THE SUSPECT, THEY WILL BE ASKED FOR A SUSPECT DESCRIPTION. 
          AND OFTENTIMES THAT WILL INCLUDE AGE, RACE, AND GENDER. 
          AND SO WE HAVE THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE FBI, UH, UNIFORM CRIME REPORTS. 
          AND SO THIS IS DATA TAKEN FROM THAT. 
          SO IF WE LOOK AT THE CENSUS POPULATION BY AGE, RACE, AND GENDER, AND COMPARE THAT TO WHO'S BEING REPORTED AS A CRIME SUSPECT BY THE COMMUNITY, WE SEE THAT THOSE NUMBERS DO NOT MATCH UP AT ALL. 
          SO MALES MAKE UP ABOUT HALF OF THE POPULATION, BUT THEY MAKE UP 79% OF REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS. 
          YES. 
          J JUST BEFORE, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA COME BACK. 
          AND, AND TWO QUESTIONS. 
          NUMBER ONE, THE DATA THAT YOU'RE SHOWING US, CAN YOU SHARE THAT WITH US? IN OTHER WORDS, LET US HAVE COPIES OF IT. 
          SURE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO A LOT OF US. 
          UH, LOOK AT THIS. 
          THE, THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE, YOU SAID ONE THIRD OF THE ARRESTEES OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME WAS ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE WERE NOT DALLAS RESIDENTS. 
          CORRECT. 
          DO YOU HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THAT ONE THIRD IN TERMS OF THEIR RACIAL PROFILE? YES. 
          AND WHAT I, I, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME, BUT IT'S IN, IT'S IN THE DATA SET. 
          ESSENTIALLY ANYTHING IN THE DATA SET, WE CAN, WE CAN. 
          SO IF YOU, ONE THING THAT WOULD BE GOOD IS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, THAT, THAT YOU COULD WRITE DOWN AND, AND SEND ME AFTERWARDS, THEN I CAN, I CAN DO THAT ANALYSIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT YES, JUST TO FOLLOW THAT UP. 
          'CAUSE I'LL FORGET OTHERWISE. 
          DOES THAT ONE THIRD MIRROR THE DALLAS PROFILE ITSELF, OR IS IT DIFFERENT? IT, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, IT'S DIFFERENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON, ON WHAT, HOW FAR THE COMMUNITY IS AND THE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN THAT COMMUNITY AND SO FORTH. 
          BUT YES, THANK YOU THAT I, I APPRECIATE IT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          PLEASE DO INTERRUPT. 
          . 
          UM, SO IF WE LOOK, GO DOWN TO AGE, AND WE SEE, AGAIN, JUVENILES MAKE UP 25% OF THE POPULATION, BUT ONLY 6% OF, OF REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS, BECAUSE MOST JUVENILES DO NOT COMMIT CRIMES. 
          AND MOST OF THE CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY 16 AND 17 YEAR OLDS. 
          UM, AND NOT, NOT YOUNGER. 
          UM, SIMILARLY, UM, WELL, LET'S SEE. 
          UM, SO THEN, THEN IF WE GO TO RACE, UM, SO IF WE SEE THAT, UM, BY RACE, HISPANICS ARE ACTUALLY UNDERREPRESENTED IN CRIME SUSPECTS, THEY MAKE UP 44% OF THE POPULATION, BUT ONLY 30% OF REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS. 
          UM, SIMILARLY WHITE INDIVIDUALS, 29% OF THE POPULATION, BUT ABOUT 11% OF SUSPECTS. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, BLACK RESIDENTS, THEY MAKE UP 24% OF THE POPULATION, BUT 59% OF REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS, UH, ASIANS, HEAVILY UNDERREPRESENTED 4% OF THE POPULATION, HALF A PERCENT OF, OF CRIME SUSPECTS. 
          SO WHAT WHAT WE'VE FOUND IN OUR DATA IS THAT, IS THAT THE DISPARITIES IN, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA, WHETHER IT STOPS ARREST, USES OF FORCE, ARE NOT DRIVEN BY THE POPULATION. 
          THEY'RE DRIVEN BY REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS. 
          BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY CALLS THE POLICE AND THEY SAY, A WHITE MALE IN HIS TWENTIES JUST ASSAULTED ME, THEN WE WOULD EXPECT THE POLICE WHEN THEY FIND THE SUSPECT FOR IT TO BE A WHITE MALE IN THEIR TWENTIES. 
          SO THE POLICE ARE GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO WHO THE COMMUNITY IS TELLING THEM IS COMMITTING CRIMES. 
          AND SO THIS, THIS IS WHY REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS IS A MUCH BETTER BENCHMARK TO LOOK AT THAN CENSUS DATA. 
          AND, UM, SO WHAT WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT, UM, MOVING FORWARD IS, IS A RISK ADJUSTED BENCHMARK THAT TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION HOW THE POLICE OPERATE AND WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO. 
          AND SO, UM, AND AGAIN, YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET A COPY OF THIS POWERPOINT, SO I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE DETAIL, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS BASICALLY, WE, WE, WE 
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DO WANT TO LOOK AT POPULATION WHEN WE LOOK AT REPORTED CRIMES BECAUSE EVERYONE IN THE POPULATION COULD POTENTIALLY BE THE VICTIM OF A CRIME. 
          AND, UH, BUT AFTER THAT, WE WANT TO LOOK AT, AT ALL THESE RISK ADJUSTED BENCHMARKS WHEN WE MEASURE POLICING ACTIVITY. 
          AND THEN IF WE STILL SEE RACIAL DISPARITIES, THEN IT'S MUCH MORE LIKELY, UM, THAT, THAT THOSE DISPARITIES MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH POLICE BIAS. 
          UM, BECAUSE THERE, THERE SHOULDN'T BE LARGE DISPARITIES WHEN WE DO THE RISK ADJUSTED BENCHMARKS. 
          AND, UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS A PRETTY COMPLICATED THING, BUT I'M GONNA GO THROUGH IT, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY. 
          BUT YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE ALL THIS, THIS DATA, UH, WHEN I'M DONE. 
          UM, SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE LOOKED AT THE POPULATION CRIME VICTIMS REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS, ARRESTEES AND USE OF FORCE FROM OUR USE OF FORCE SYSTEM, AND CALCULATED ALL THE PERCENTAGES, UM, BASED, BASED ON THAT. 
          AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE START, UH, DOING THE RISK ADJUSTED BENCHMARKING. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, UM, REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS, UM, THIS IS WHAT, UH, WE, WE LOOKED AT EARLIER. 
          SO WE SEE THAT, UM, THESE ARE, UM, UH, UH, UH, RACIAL, UH, OR DISPARITY INDICES. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT SEX FOR REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS, WE SEE THAT, UM, UH, A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL. 
          UM, SO IF YOU'RE LESS THAN ONE, YOU'RE UNDERREPRESENTED. 
          IF YOU'RE MORE THAN ONE, YOU'RE OVERREPRESENTED. 
          SO IN TERMS OF REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS, FEMALES ARE 60% LESS LIKELY TO BE REPORTED AS A CRIME SUSPECT THAN WE WOULD EXPECT BASED ON THEIR POPULATION. 
          AND MALES ARE 60% MORE LIKELY. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW FROM LOTS YEARS AND YEARS OF, UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE, UH, ACADEMIC RESEARCH IS MALES ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO COMMIT CRIMES THAN FEMALES, PARTICULARLY VIOLENT CRIMES. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT GO DOWN TO AGE, WE SEE THAT JUVENILES ARE HEAVILY UNDERREPRESENTED. 
          THEY'RE 80% LESS LIKELY TO COMMIT CRIMES THAN WE WOULD EXPECT BASED ON THEIR POPULATION. 
          BUT 18 TO 29 YEAR OLDS ARE 80% MORE LIKELY TO COMMIT CRIMES. 
          AND AGAIN, WE KNOW THIS FROM, UH, CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESEARCH. 
          UH, USUALLY, UM, MALES BETWEEN, UH, 18 AND 29 ARE, THAT'S, THAT'S GENERALLY THE, THE GROUP THAT COMMITS CRIMES AT THE HIGHEST RATES. 
          THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT RACE, WE SEE THAT EVERY RACIAL GROUP IS UNDERREPRESENTED EXCEPT FOR, UH, BLACK RESIDENTS. 
          AND THEY'RE 2.5 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE REPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY AS A CRIME SUSPECT THAN WE WOULD EXPECT BASED ON THEIR POPULATION. 
          NOW, THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POLICE. 
          UM, THIS IS WHO THE COMMUNITY IS REPORTING TO THE POLICE AS A SUSPECT. 
          SO ONCE WE LOOK, ONCE WE KNOW THE REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS, THEN WE CAN START TO LOOK AT ARRESTEES USING REPORTED SUSPECTS AS THE BENCHMARK. 
          AND WHEN WE DO THAT, WE SEE THAT THE DISPARITIES FOR, UH, MALES AND FEMALES DISAPPEAR. 
          SO, UM, WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS BASICALLY IF, IF 75% OF THE SUSPECTS REPORTED TO THE POLICE ARE MALE, THE POLICE ARE ARRESTING, 75% OF ALL THEIR ARRESTS ARE MALE SUSPECTS. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY THEY'RE ARRESTING WHO THE COMMUNITY IS REPORTING, HAVING COMMITTED A CRIME. 
          UM, IF WE LOOK AT IT BY AGE, WE SEE THAT, UM, IT'S PEOPLE OVER 50 ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE UNDERREPRESENTED. 
          UM, AND, UM, UH, MOST OF THE OTHERS, THE DISPARITIES ARE MUCH SMALLER. 
          AND IF WE LOOK BY RACE, WE SEE THAT FOR BLACK INDIVIDUALS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE DISPROPORTIONATELY COMPARED TO THE POPULATION REPORTED AS CRIME SUSPECTS, WHEN WE LOOK AT ARRESTEES, THEY'RE SLIGHTLY UNDERREPRESENTED. 
          SO, SO THE, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? YES, I'M SORRY. 
          UM, SO I'M ALLISON GRINDER ALLEN, DISTRICT NINE. 
          I'M A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY, AND I OFTEN SEE PEOPLE ARRESTED, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE PULLED OVER BECAUSE THEY MATCHED THE DESCRIPTION OF A REPORTED CRIME SUSPECT, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT CRIME, AND THEY END UP GETTING ARRESTED FOR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CRIME. 
          AND MATCHING THE DESCRIPTION OF A REPORTED CRIME SUSPECT TENDS TO BE NOT A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN GENDER AND RACE. 
          UM, WOULD THAT, WOULD A PERSON, LIKE, LET'S SAY I'M A BLACK MAN, I'M DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, I GET PULLED OVER BECAUSE I MATCH THE DESCRIPTION OF SOME KIND OF CRIME SUSPECT, AND I GET ARRESTED BECAUSE I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, AN UNHOLSTERED FIREARM OR SOME MARIJUANA OR WHATEVER IN MY CAR. 
          UM, WOULD THAT BE REPORTED IN YOUR DATA AS A REPORTED CRIME SUSPECT OR NO? SO THE, THE, 
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THE, THE DATA WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T, UM, LINK THE ARRESTEE WITH THE REPORTED CRIME SUSPECT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO I MEAN, THAT'S THE REASON I GOT PULLED OVER, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          BUT, BUT ALL WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT GENERAL STATISTICS AND DEMOGRAPHICS FOR ALL REPORTED CRIMES AND ALL ARRESTS. 
          SO BASED ON, ON WHAT YOU SAY, IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IF, IF 60% OF REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS ARE BLACK, WE WOULD EXPECT THE POLICE TO 60% OF THEIR STOPS OF CRIME SUSPECTS WOULD PROBABLY BE BLACK. 
          THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE RIGHT SUSPECT, BUT THEY'RE GETTING REPORTS OF BLACK SUSPECTS A LOT MORE OFTEN THAN THEY ARE ASIAN SUSPECTS. 
          SO IT, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IF THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD AND ONE CRIME IS REPORTED BY A BLACK MALE SUSPECT, AND ON THE BASIS OF THAT REPORT TO POLICE, 10 BLACK MEN ARE PULLED OVER, SEVEN OF WHOM ARE ARRESTED, ARE THOSE ARRESTS LINKED TO THAT ONE REPORT OF A CRIME? THE, THE, UH, AND AGAIN, THE, THE DATA DOESN'T LINK INDIVIDUAL INCIDENTS, BUT IT MAKES WHAT YOU'RE SAYING DOES MAKE SENSE MM-HMM . 
          BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE MORE OFTEN LOOKING FOR BLACK MALE SUSPECTS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY MORE OFTEN, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE ARRESTING THEM FOR THE CRIME THAT WAS REPORTED, BUT THEY'RE STOPPING THEM MORE OFTEN BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING, THIS GROUP IS BEING REPORTED MORE OFTEN AS A CRIME SUSPECT, BUT NOT RELATIVE TO STOPS, RELATIVE TO, TO CALLS FOR COMPLAINT. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING, UM, ARRESTED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO, SO THE, THE, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NO DIRECT LINKAGE BETWEEN, IN THIS DATA SET BETWEEN ARRESTS AND THE ACTUAL REPORTED CRIME. 
          SO, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU WHETHER THEY WERE ACTUALLY ARRESTING INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ACTUALLY REPORTED AS CRIMINAL SUSPECTS. 
          AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING MAKES SENSE BECAUSE ARRESTING INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY PULLED OVER FOR, FOR, TO INVESTIGATE FOR BEING REPORTED SUSPECTS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEY MAY, THEY MAY HAVE PULLED OVER, THEY MAY GET A REPORT OF A HOMICIDE WITH A, A WHITE MALE SUSPECT, SO THEY PULL OVER A WHITE MALE, HE'S NOT THAT SUSPECT, BUT THEY FIND DRUGS AND THEY ARREST HIM FOR THE DRUGS. 
          SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD APPEAR IN, IN, IN THE DATA, BOTH, BOTH THE ARREST AND THE REPORTED CRIME. 
          THAT WOULD BE ONE ARREST AND ONE REPORT. 
          THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T LINK UP DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO YOUR STATISTICS. 
          RIGHT. 
          GOT IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND ALSO ONE REPORTED CRIME SUSPECT COULD RESULT IN FIVE STOPS AND THREE ARRESTS. 
          UM, SO, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DATA HERE AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL AND, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SAY, WAS THE STOP JUSTIFIED? YOU KNOW, DID THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT VERY HIGH LEVEL STATISTICS. 
          HMM. 
          UM, AND THEN AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, JUST TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT THE, THE DISPARITIES WHEN WE USE THE RISK ADJUSTED. 
          UM, UM, AND SO THE LARGEST DISPARITIES ARE THE RED TWO PLUS, AND WE SEE THAT THE LARGEST DISPARITIES ARE REALLY BETWEEN THE POPULATION AND REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS. 
          BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ARRESTS AND USES OF FORCE, UM, EVERYTHING IS, IS PRETTY PROPORTIONAL. 
          WE, WE DO SEE A FAIRLY LARGE DISPARITY IN USES OF FORCE FOR NATIVE AMERICANS, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE SO SMALL, UM, THAT THAT'S WHY YOU GET THE LARGER DISPARITIES. 
          UM, BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, THIS, THIS DATA DOESN'T SAY WHETHER INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS ARE PROFILING OR WHERE THEY HAD PROBABLE CAUSE OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          WHAT THIS DATA IS SAYING IS THAT THERE'S NO STATISTICAL EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THAT THERE'S A SYSTEMIC PRACTICE OF RACIAL PROFILING OR RACIAL BIAS, UM, BASED ON, ON THIS DATA SET. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO. 
          WE CAN'T RULE OUT REALLY ANYTHING ON INDIVIDUAL INCIDENTS. 
          UM, ANOTHER, UM, THIS IS A, ANOTHER GRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION LOOKING AT, UM, VICTIMS VERSUS OFFENDERS. 
          UM, AND WE READ THIS DOWN TO GET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          SO FOR WHITE VICTIMS, UM, AND THIS IS, THIS IS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DATA SET. 
          THIS IS THE NEIGHBORS DATA SET FOR VIOLENT CRIME. 
          UM, SO FOR WHITE VICTIMS IN DALLAS, UM, 63% REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS WHITE, AND 36% REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS BLACK. 
          BUT FOR BLACK INDIVIDUALS, UH, BLACK VICTIMS FOR VIOLENT CRIME, 89% REPORT THAT THE SUSPECT WAS WHITE. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN A LOT OF THE DATA, A LOT OF THIS IS DRIVEN BY BLACK 
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VICTIMS REPORTING THAT THE SUSPECT WAS BLACK AND NOT NECESSARILY WHITE, ASIAN OR NATIVE AMERICAN VICTIMS ARE REPORTING THAT THE SUSPECT IS BLACK. 
          UM, ANOTHER THING WITH THE BRS DATA THAT'S REALLY GOOD IS WE, WE CAN, UM, WE HAVE NI BRS DATA FOR EVERY JURISDICTION IN THE STATE. 
          SO WE CAN START TO, 'CAUSE AS I WAS SAYING EARLIER, I'VE SEEN RACIAL DISPARITIES IN EVERY JURISDICTION. 
          I'VE, I'VE, I'VE LOOKED AT. 
          UM, AND SO WE CAN COMPARE SORT OF DALLAS WITH, UM, UH, UH, OTHER, OTHER CITIES IN, IN TEXAS. 
          AND, UM, THE, THE SIZE OF THE CIRCLE, UH, DALLAS IS THE BLACK CIRCLE THERE. 
          UM, AND THE SIZE OF THE CIRCLES ARE BASED ON THE, ON THE SIZE OF THE JURISDICTION AND THE NUMBER OF ARRESTS. 
          UM, SO THE OTHER BIG BIG.HERE IS HOUSTON. 
          UM, SO FOR EACH OF THESE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION VERSUS THE PERCENTAGE OF OFFENDERS. 
          UM, SO WE CAN SEE THAT FOR, UM, AND THEN WE, WE, THERE'S ALWAYS COMPLICATIONS WITH SOME OF THE DATA BECAUSE, UM, UH, ETHNICITY IS NOT RACE. 
          UM, SO THE NEIGHBORS DATA REPORTS, UH, HISPANIC SEPARATELY AS AN ETHNICITY, WHEREAS MANY JURISDICTIONS WILL INCLUDE, UH, ETHNICITY AS A RACE. 
          SO WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF STATISTICAL PROBLEMS, , WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS DATA, BUT AT LEAST FOR THE NEIGHBORS DATA, WE COMBINED, UM, THE, THE WHITE AND HISPANIC, UH, OFFENDERS TOGETHER. 
          UM, SO IF WE LOOK AT, UM, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE TREND HERE, UH, WE SEE THAT THAT, UM, UH, THE, THE, THE HISPANIC POPULATION, UH, FOR EXAMPLE IS ABOUT 44% AND, AND SLIGHTLY LESS, UH, THAN 40%. 
          ABOUT 36% ARE REPORTED AS AS CRIME SUSPECTS. 
          UM, BUT WHEN WE GO TO BLACK OFFENDER, LET'S ACTUALLY GO TO ASIAN OFFENDERS. 
          NEXT WE SEE, SO THIS, THIS LINE HERE, THE DOTTED BLUE LINE IS, IS IF THERE WAS EQUAL PARITY AND NO DISPARITY. 
          UM, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT ASIAN OFFENDERS, WE SEE THAT ASIANS MAKE UP ABOUT 4% OF THE DALLAS POPULATION, UM, BUT LESS THAN 1% OF OFFENDERS. 
          AND WE SEE THAT THIS IS, THIS IS TRUE PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, IN ALL CITIES IN IN TEXAS, WHERE ASIANS ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE REPORTED AS A CRIME SUSPECT THAN WE WOULD EXPECT BASED ON THEIR POPULATION, WHEREAS, UH, WHITE AND HISPANIC ARE ABOUT AS LIKELY. 
          BUT THEN WE GET INTO, UM, BLACK, UM, POPULATION AND BLACK OFFENDERS, AND WE SEE THAT, THAT ACROSS THE BOARD, UM, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO BE REPORTED IN ALL CITIES IN TEXAS AS A CRIME SUSPECT THAN WE WOULD EXPECT BASED ON THEIR POPULATION. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING A LOT OF THE DISPARITIES, UM, THAT WE SEE IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA. 
          UM, HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE OF OFFENDERS COMPARED TO ARRESTEES, THINGS LINE UP A LOT MORE. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS, IS THAT IF YOU HAVE 80% OF YOUR, UH, OFFENDERS ARE WHITE OR HISPANIC, WE WOULD EXPECT 80% OF THE ARREST TO BE WHITE AND HISPANIC. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE PRETTY MUCH ACROSS THE BOARD ON CITIES. 
          SIMILARLY, FOR, UM, UH, BLACK, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, IN DALLAS, ABOUT 60% OF THE OFFENDERS ARE BLACK, AND ABOUT 55% OF ARRESTS ARE BLACK. 
          AND SO WE SEE THESE LINE UP. 
          SO AGAIN, THE POLICE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR WHOEVER'S REPORTED AS A CRIME SUSPECT, AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE ARRESTING MORE OF THAT GROUP IF THEY'RE REPORTED MORE OFTEN, UM, AS A CRIME SUSPECT. 
          UM, I WANT TO TALK REAL QUICKLY ABOUT, UM, DATA THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO HAVE. 
          UM, AND THIS IS COUNTERFACTUAL DATA. 
          AND WHAT COUNTERFACTUAL DATA IS, IS THAT IT'S, IT'S HOW MANY TIMES DID SOMETHING NOT HAPPEN WHEN IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED? SO, UH, WE'LL TAKE USE OF FORCE, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          UM, HOW MANY TIMES DID THE OFFICER HAVE WAS JUSTIFIED IN USING FORCE, BUT THEY DIDN'T BECAUSE THEY DID DEESCALATION OR THEY TALKED THE PERSON DOWN OR FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          UM, AND, AND, UM, UH, SO, SO THAT WOULD BE ONE, ONE THING, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL DATA TO KNOW, RIGHT? IF YOU HAVE AN OFFICER, UM, THAT RARELY USES FORCE, UH, BECAUSE THEY, THEY DEESCALATE VERY WELL, THAT WOULD BE A VERY IMPORTANT DATA POINT TO HAVE. 
          BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. 
          UM, ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS, UM, UH, HOW MANY TIMES DO OFFICERS NOT STOP A VEHICLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE A MINOR EQUIPMENT VIOLATION WHEN THEY COULD HAVE, RIGHT? IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHEN OFFICERS DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE, BECAUSE IF WE SEE RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THAT, THAT WOULD BE VERY, VERY ILLUMINATING. 
          UM, AND, AND ALSO, UH, OFFICERS ALL THE TIME DO NOT MAKE AN ARREST EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE TO DO SO, PARTICULARLY FOR MINOR OFFENSES. 
          SO THE ONLY DATA WE HAVE IS WHEN AN OFFICER DECIDES TO MAKE AN ARREST. 
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AND SO IF WE FIND OUT THAT SOME OFFICERS, WELL, THEY, THEY ONLY, THEY, THEY, THEY ONLY ARREST BLACK PEOPLE AND THEY GIVE WHITE PEOPLE A BREAK. 
          UM, THAT, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO HAVE. 
          UM, ALSO, UM, UH, GIVING A WARNING RATHER THAN A TICKET. 
          UM, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD INFORMATION TO HAVE. 
          UM, I ALSO GOT A QUESTION, UH, FROM, FROM THE BOARD ABOUT, UM, LOOKING AT COURT DATA. 
          UM, SO EXAMINING, UH, I USED TO BE A PROSECUTOR, AND, AND, AND OFTENTIMES PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW, OKAY, WELL, DID, DID THIS ARREST RESULT IN A CONVICTION, EITHER A TRIAL OR A PLEA? UM, AND THE, THE PROBLEM WITH CONVICTION RATES IS THAT THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY SOMEONE MIGHT NOT BE CONVICTED OF A CRIME THAT MAY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POLICE OFFICER. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, A PROSECUTOR MAY HAVE FILING POLICIES THAT SAYS, WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA FILE ANY DRUG, UH, UH, ANY, ANY, UH, MARIJUANA LESS THAN A POUND OR, OR, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF FILING POLICIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT WHILE THE OFFICER MAY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT, AND THEY MAY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE TO ARREST THE PERSON, THE PROSECUTOR SAYS, NO, IT DOESN'T MEET OUR FILING STANDARDS, AND WE HAVE A POLICY NOT TO FILE THOSE CASES. 
          PLEA BARGAINS ARE A BIG ONE, ESPECIALLY FOR MINOR CRIMES. 
          SO AN OFFICER MAY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT, UM, AND, AND HAD A REALLY SOLID MISDEMEANOR CASE, BUT THAT CASE IS PLEA BARGAINED DOWN TO GET, UH, UH, THE SUSPECT TO, OR THE DEFENDANT TO PLEAD GUILTY TO SOME MAJOR CHARGE. 
          SO AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T, THE CONVICTION OR, OR NOT CONVICTION DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE OFFICER, UM, HAD A GOOD CASE OR NOT. 
          UM, YOU ALSO MAY GET TO TRIAL AND HAVE, OR, OR, OR BEFORE TRIAL AND HAVE AN UNCOOPERATIVE VICTIM OR WITNESS. 
          AND SO YOU'RE, AGAIN, THE OFFICER MAY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT, BUT THEN THE VICTIM RECANT OR SOMETHING. 
          SO A BETTER, UH, COURT DATA IS VALUABLE, UM, TO LOOK AT ISSUES OF RACIAL BIAS AND, AND WHETHER THE OFFICER DID EVERYTHING RIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT THERE ARE SOME DATA POINTS THAT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THEM IS A, A DECLINE TO FILE CHARGES FOR INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE. 
          SO IF AN OFFICER REFERS A CASE FOR PROSECUTION AND THE COURT OR, OR THE PROSECUTOR SAYS, UHUH, WE'RE NOT GONNA FILE THIS CASE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE, THEN THAT'S A RED FLAG FOR THAT OFFICER THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING, THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING OR SUPERVISION OR SOMETHING. 
          UM, AND SO THIS DATA WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL, UM, TO, TO KNOW IF OFFICERS ARE DOING THEIR JOBS CORRECTLY. 
          UM, ANOTHER, UM, THING WOULD BE TO LOOK AT, UM, WHEN THE COURT SUPPRESSES EVIDENCE. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE OFFICERS THAT ROUTINELY HAVE CASES THROWN OUT BECAUSE, UM, THEIR EVIDENCE IS SUPPRESSED BECAUSE OF VIOLATION OF, OF THE FOURTH OR FIFTH OR SIXTH AMENDMENT, UM, THEN AGAIN, THAT'S A, AND DO WE LOOK AT THAT? LIKE, IS THAT TRACKED? BECAUSE I'VE SEEN EVIDENCE THROWN OUT A LOT, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT GETS BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT. 
          IS THERE A WAY FOR, FOR THAT TO GET BACK? AND DOES THE DEPARTMENT TRACK THAT? NO, WE DO NOT TRACK THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          MY, MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT, UM, PROSECUTOR'S OFFICES LIKE POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT GOOD AT COLLECTING DATA. 
          UM, AND, UH, IT, IT WOULDN'T BE HARD TO DO, UH, BUT THEY JUST DON'T DO IT. 
          AND SO IF THEY DON'T COLLECT THE DATA, WE DON'T. 
          BUT, BUT WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS, IS THAT MAYBE SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD, THIS WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL DATA BOTH FOR THE BOARD AND FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO KNOW, UM, DO THEY HAVE OFFICERS WHO ARE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF DECLINES OR A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF SUPPRESSING EVIDENCE AND SO FORTH. 
          NOW YOU DO DATA SCIENCE FOR THE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? I I, I, I HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM TO DO OUR FORCE ANALYSIS SYSTEM. 
          YES. 
          YOU KNOW, JOHN CRUZO HAS A DATA SCIENCE TEAM FROM SMU THAT FOLLOWS HIM AROUND AS WELL. 
          MAYBE Y'ALL SHOULD BE INTRODUCED . 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL, THERE'S, I MEAN, I, I, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT, THAT, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, UH, PARTNER WITH, UM, RESEARCHERS AT LOCAL UNIVERSITIES. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S YOUR, THAT'S YOUR BEST BET IS TO GET, UM, LOCAL ACADEMIC RESEARCHERS, PREFERABLY IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT THAT REALLY KNOW THEIR STUFF. 
          'CAUSE THEY CAN, THEY CAN REALLY HELP. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO INVESTED IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE OUTCOME AS WELL. 
          SO IF I GAUGE YOUR, YOUR SLIDES WE'RE SORT OF WRAPPING UP, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          UM, DO YOU TRACK HOW MANY OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY LIVE IN DALLAS? I DO NOT HAVE, I HAVE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA ON OFFICERS AGE, RACE, AND GENDER YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. 
          UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE RESIDENCY INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D BE INTERESTED IN THAT. 
          I, I WONDER IF IT, IF IT IS, UM, A RELEVANT DATA POINT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, AND SO YOU WERE POINTING OUT YOUR OP-ED IN THE SEATTLE PAPER ABOUT HOW IF YOU WANNA ADDRESS DISPARITIES IN 
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POLICING, YOU SHOULD ADDRESS DISPARITIES IN SOCIETY. 
          AND I REMEMBER AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT THINKING, MAN, THAT REALLY LETS THE DEPARTMENT OFF THE HOOK, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S PRETTY HARD TO MOVE THE ENTIRE SOCIETY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MANAGE JUST A DEPARTMENT, BUT IT BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING ISSUE TO ME. 
          ARE Y'ALL TRACKING? AND I SUPPOSE IS A BETTER QUESTION TO THE INTERIM CHIEF. 
          UM, IS THERE A WAY TO TRACK AND LOOK AT SOCIETY AND CULTURE IN AND AMONGST THE DEPARTMENT AND, AND WHAT THAT CORPORATE CULTURE LOOKS LIKE IN AND AMONGST THE, THE, THE DEPARTMENT? BECAUSE IF FOLKS ARE DISRESPECTFUL OR, OR DISCRIMINATORY WITH THEIR COLLEAGUES AND IN THE WORKPLACE, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY CARRYING OVER INTO, UM, INTO THE COMMUNITY, IS THAT, WHAT IS THE WAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT TRACKS THAT? YEAH, SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE DO TRACK THAT. 
          UM, MAJOR GREER PUTS OUT A REPORT MONTHLY OF THOSE TOP VIOLATIONS, UH, WHERE THEY EITHER RECEIVED SOME TYPE OF DISCIPLINE OR AN ALLEGATION, UH, IN RESPONSE TO THEIR CONDUCT. 
          UM, AND I'LL LET HIM KIND OF WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT. 
          YES, THAT INFORMATION CAN BE TRACKED THROUGH OUR, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. 
          THAT INFORMATION CAN BE TRACKED THROUGH THE PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE IA PRO, DEPENDING UPON WHAT DATA POINT WE PUT IN OR WHAT COMPLAINT THAT WE, UH, ARE ATTEMPTING TO IDENTIFY, WE CAN PUT THAT INFORMATION IN AND IT WILL LET US KNOW HOW MANY INTERNAL COMPLAINTS HAVE COME ABOUT FOR THAT, UH, CERTAIN BEHAVIOR. 
          SO WE CAN TRACK IT. 
          IT JUST DEPENDS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT TO ASK. 
          AND DO YOU LINK THAT UP WITH SORT OF EXIT INTERVIEWS? IT, IT FEELS LIKE EXIT INTERVIEWS ARE THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE WOULD, WOULD REALLY BE MORE HONEST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A CULTURE, A CORPORATE CULTURE INSIDE A DEPARTMENT, JUST HAVING BAD VIBES, YOU KNOW, WE DO, UM, OFTEN THOUGH, HOWEVER, ON THOSE EXIT INTERVIEWS, UM, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF COMMENTS. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S HIT AND MISS ON THOSE SOMETIMES. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          UM, MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION IS WHEN, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW, UM, THE, THE MAJORITY OF USE OF FORCE CASES ARE FROM WHITE OFFICERS BECAUSE WHITE OFFICER, WHITE OFFICERS MAKE UP, UH, THE BIGGER PART OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ACTUAL BREAKDOWNS OF DEMOGRAPHICS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BROKEN DOWN BY PATROL, UM, DETECTIVES, YOU KNOW, RANK STRUCTURE AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          YES, WE DO. 
          AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE BOARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, ADDRESS ONE, ONE COMMENT YOU MADE. 
          UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT ABOUT LETTING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFF THE HOOK. 
          IN FACT, IT, IT, IT'S SORT OF THE OPPOSITE BECAUSE YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU CAN'T MANAGE WHAT YOU DON'T MEASURE. 
          AND, AND OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE DEPARTMENTS AND THE COMMUNITY WITH, WITH ACTIONABLE DATA. 
          UM, AND, AND I, I, I'VE, I'VE DONE SO MANY CONFERENCES AND PRESENTATIONS TO DIFFERENT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, AND I CAN TELL RIGHT AWAY IF LIKE, SOME CHIEFS WILL COME UP TO ME AND SAY, WHY DO, WHY DO, WHY WOULD I WANT TO COLLECT THIS? I I, I DON'T WANNA KNOW ALL THIS STUFF. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY, I MEAN, CHIEF GARCIA'S THE ONE THAT I, I WAS WORKING FOR HIM IN SAN JOSE, AND HE'S THE ONE THAT BROUGHT ME IN. 
          I MEAN, HE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HIS OFFICERS WERE DOING, AND IF THEY WERE NOT BEHAVING THE WAY HE WANTED THEM TO, HE WANTED THAT CORRECTED. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR DATA SYSTEMS ARE FOR. 
          AND, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY, OH, THE DISPARITIES AREN'T THAT GREAT, THERE'S NO PROBLEM. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO SAY, LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE ACTUAL PROBLEMS. AND THEN WHEN ONCE YOU IDENTIFY WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE, THEN YOU CAN START TO CORRECT IT. 
          BUT IF YOU JUST SAY, OH, THIS DISPARITY IS HUGE, IT MUST BE THE POLICE, AND LET'S, LET'S DO SOMETHING THAT'S INEFFECTIVE, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE AGAINST. 
          I KNOW IT'S LOTS AND LOTS OF FINE TUNING, AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING. 
          YEAH. 
          MR. MR. KAS JUST SORT OF SUM UP HERE, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, THIS HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTING AND PROVIDED, AT LEAST TO ME, A LOT OF DATA THAT SAYS, AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT A MONTHLY REPORT THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE 70% HISPANIC OR BLACKS THAT WERE ARRESTED WHEN THEY DON'T MIRROR THE POPULATION. 
          SO IS THAT FAIR TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO DIG A LOT DEEPER? EXACTLY. 
          AND THIS IS, THIS IS JUST A STARTING POINT, RIGHT? THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE ANALYSIS, BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO LOOK. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, YOU'VE TOLD US ABOUT A NUMBER OF, UH, DEEPER DIVES, SO TO SPEAK, TO, TO LOOK AT. 
          AND, UH, I'M NOT A STATISTICS GUY, SO I DON'T REALLY, UH, KNOW WHERE IT ENDS UP. 
          BUT BASED UPON 
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WHAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED TO US OR TALKED TO THE, THE DPD ABOUT, DO YOU BELIEVE THERE IS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM HERE IN TERMS OF BLACKS AND HISPANICS OR PEOPLE OF COLOR BEING RESTED IN A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER? YEAH. 
          WHAT I CAN SAY FROM THE DATA, AGAIN, AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE, UH, THE USE OF FORCE OR THE ARREST DATA THAT SUGGESTS THAT THERE IS A SYSTEMIC PRACTICE OF BIAS POLICING OR RACIAL PROFILING IN THE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY SORT OF CONCLUSION THAT I CAN DRAW FROM THE DATA. 
          BUT, BUT IT, IT'S IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, EVEN, EVEN WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO REACH ANY KIND OF CONCLUSION, IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND THE DEPARTMENT, UNDERSTAND THE DATA AND, AND, AND, AND WHERE IT COMES FROM AND HOW IT'S COLLECTED AND HOW TO, TO ANALYZE IT. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S THE SIMPLISTIC LOOK AT POPULATION VERSUS ARRESTS OR WHATEVER THAT THAT DRIVES EVERYBODY WILD AND SAID, LOOK AT THIS DISPARITY. 
          IT MUST BE DUE TO RACIAL PROFILING. 
          AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO SORT OF STEP BACK FROM THAT AND SAY, THERE'S A LOT MORE GOING ON AND LET'S, LET'S START LOOKING AT IT MORE DEEPLY. 
          SO IF WE, SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US, IF WE NEED TO REALLY FIND OUT IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE HAVE TO, WE CAN'T BE LOOKING AT THIS IN A GENERAL POPULATION, UH, TYPE OF DATA, BUT WE HAVE TO DO ALL THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE AND PROBABLY MORE. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I MEAN, ONE EXAMPLE IS LOOKING AT, OKAY, IF YOU, IF YOU SEE A PARTICULAR LARGE DISPARITY IN EITHER AN AREA OF THE CITY OR IN A PARTICULAR TYPE OF CRIME, THEN THAT'S THE STARTING POINT. 
          AND THEN YOU SORT OF DIG DEEPER INTO INDIVIDUAL INCIDENTS AND LOOK AT HISTORICAL DATA AND TRENDS AND LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES AND TRAINING, ET CETERA, TO REALLY DETERMINE, OKAY, WELL, WHAT'S DRIVING THAT DISPARITY IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          IT'S BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE. 
          SO, EXCUSE ME, I HAVE ONE MORE, ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          SURE THING. 
          MR. SCALES, UH, DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND CONCLUDE YOUR, THERE WILL BE A TIME FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL AT THE END. 
          DO YOU WANNA CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN, UH, WE CAN OPEN IT UP AGAIN TO MORE BOARD QUESTIONS? YEAH. 
          OR I GUESS WE'RE THERE, WELL, ACTUALLY, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU REAL QUICKLY SOME DASHBOARDS, UM, SURE. 
          THAT, THAT I BUILT USING THE DATA, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE PROBLEM WITH A STATIC REPRESENTATION IS THAT YOU, YOU, YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DATA THAT I CAN'T ANSWER, BUT WITH A DASHBOARD, YOU CAN, YOU CAN INTERACT WITH THE DATA AND, AND ALSO THIS, THIS PROVIDES DATA, UH, BY ZIP CODE, SO YOU CAN START TO SEE, UM, WHERE THE, WHERE THE DIFFERENT HOTSPOTS ARE IN, IN, IN THE CITY. 
          UM, AND SO THIS IS DATA, UH, ON ARRESTS, UH, FROM 2020 TO 2024. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE THE MONTHLY DATA AT THE TOP ANNUAL DATA REASON FOR THE STOP, UH, UH, GENDER AND RACE. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CALLS AND SO FORTH. 
          SO, UM, WE CAN SEE VERY QUICKLY THAT THERE ARE TWO ZIP CODES, 7, 5, 2, 1, AND 7, 5 2 OH, UM, THAT ARE THE HOTPOTS, UH, OR FOR ZIP CODE WISE FOR ARRESTS. 
          AND WITH THE, WITH THE, UM, DASHBOARDS, UH, YOU CAN, UM, CLICK ON ANY, ANY, ANYTHING IN THE DASHBOARD AND WILL IMMEDIATELY, UM, RESET TO THAT, UM, UH, THAT, THAT SELECTION. 
          AND SO WE CAN START TO SEE THE DIFFERENT, UM, DEMOGRAPHICS, UH, OF, OF THE, UM, THE DIFFERENT, UM, ZIP CODES. 
          AND JUST REAL QUICKLY, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE OUTTA TIME HERE, UM, I JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT, UM, UH, RACE, RACE BY ZIP CODE. 
          AND SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, SO THE TWO, THE TWO HOTSPOTS, THESE, THESE ARE ARRANGED BY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ARRESTS. 
          SO, UM, THE ZIP CODE WITH THE MOST NUMBER OF ARRESTS, UH, DURING THIS, THIS TIME PERIOD IS 7 5 2 1 6, UM, AND THEN 7 5 2, 2 OH. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF, OF ARRESTEES IN THOSE TWO ZIP CODES, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. 
          SO IN 7 5 2, 1 6, 70 8% OF ARRESTS ARE BLACK INDIVIDUALS. 
          UM, WHEREAS FOR 7 5 2 2 0 30 1% ARE BLACK INDIVIDUALS, AND 48% ARE HISPANIC. 
          SO THERE'S SO MANY, UM, DIFFERENT DYNAMICS THAT ARE GOING ON. 
          AND, AND ALSO THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY YOUR VIOLENT CRIME PLAN. 
          UH, IT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY, UM, REPORTED CRIME SUSPECTS BY PATROL, UH, DEPLOYMENTS AND SO FORTH. 
          SO I GUESS THE MAIN TAKEAWAY IS THAT THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX ISSUE AND THERE ARE MANY MOVING PARTS. 
          AND SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND WORK WITH YOU ON FUTURE ANALYSIS IF YOU WOULD LIKE. 
          UM, AND I HOPE THIS, THIS HAS BEEN HELPFUL, MR. SCALE HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND, UH, JUST THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING AND WE HAVE LISTENERS TUNING IN. 
          UH, WHERE CAN THAT DASHBOARD BE ACCESSED? IS THAT, UH, AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, UH, THIS DASHBOARD, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, IF IT'S NOT QUITE AVAILABLE? YEAH, SO MR. SCALES 
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JUST CREATED THIS DASHBOARD AT, AT MY REQUEST FOR THIS MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE WANT TO GET THE, THE FEEDBACK AND BUY BACK BY THE BOARD ON THIS, SO WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS SURE. 
          AND THEN GET THAT DASHBOARD UP AT A LATER TIME ONCE WE DO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          UM, BUT I DO WANT TO ADD AS, AS AN IMPORTANT POINT TO MR. SCALES, ESPECIALLY THIS LAST SLIDE, HE TALKED ABOUT THE ZIP CODES OF 7 5 2 2 0, AND 7 5 2, 1 6 AS BEING ONE OF THE HOTSPOT AREAS. 
          UM, WHERE WE SEE MORE ARRESTS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE STARTED THE CRIME PLAN BACK IN MAY OF 2021, AND SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE HAD TO DEPLOY MORE RESOURCES INTO THOSE AREAS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF VIOLENT CRIME OCCURRING IN THOSE AREAS. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE AN, IT WOULD BE JUST, THOSE WOULD BE THE CORRELATIONS DRAWN, UH, FROM THAT DATA THAT'S, THERE WOULD BE A REASON WHY WE SEE MORE ARRESTS THAN THOSE ZIP CODES AND THEN THE OTHER ZIP CODES. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I DO WANNA OPEN UP TO SOME ADDITIONAL BOARD QUESTIONS. 
          UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS YET. 
          DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, UH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, THE DETAIL IN THE REPORT, AND I WANTED TO KNOW IF, UM, YOU WERE OPEN TO REQUESTS FROM USING CERTAIN DATA SETS THAT WE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO. 
          SO I'LL TAKE THAT QUESTION. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA BE TRANSPARENT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME LEGAL RESTRICTIONS, OBVIOUSLY BEING CJ VERTI, UH, VERIFIED, BUT I'VE ASKED MR. SCALES AND, UH, DR. 
          ANDER CHECK WOULD BRING HER ON BOARD AS WELL, UH, TO PROVIDE WHATEVER DATA WE CAN IN ADDITION TO, UH, BUILDING OUT THOSE DASHBOARDS, MR. MAPLES, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          SO YOU DID A LOT OF RESEARCH AND YOU SAID THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO PLAY WITH COMING UP WITH THESE NUMBERS. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE RACIAL MAKEUP IS OF DALLAS AS IT RELATES TO BLACK CITIZENS? YOU MEAN THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE? YES. 
          HOW MU HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH DO BLACK, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF BLACK PEOPLE IN DALLAS? I, I, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK BACK AT MY, MY NUMBER. 
          I THINK IT'S, IT'S ABOUT 28%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          CLOSE. 
          WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF BLACK OFFICERS ON THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT? I, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER. 
          I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S ROUGHLY IN THE MID TWENTIES TO HIGH 20%. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN YOUR, IN YOUR ANALYSIS, YOU SAID, I FORGET THE NUMBER, UH, MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME OUT WITH IT. 
          UM, THE PERCENTAGE OF ALL BLACK OFFICERS THAT ARE ARRESTING BLACK PEOPLE, YOU REMEMBER WHAT THAT NUMBER WAS? YEAH, IT WAS ABOUT, IT WAS ABOUT, UM, 61% OF ARRESTS BY BLACK OFFICERS ARE BLACK SUSPECTS VERSUS 55% OF ARRESTS FOR WHITE AND HISPANIC OFFICERS. 
          SO MORE TIMES THAN NOT, BLACK OFFICERS ARE ARRESTING BLACK PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE, ONE THING I WOULD, I WOULD SAY IS THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL DIFFERENCE. 
          SO, SO THAT, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY INDICATIVE OF A DIFFERENCE IN BEHAVIOR. 
          THERE COULD BE OTHER THINGS BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCE IS SO SMALL. 
          UM, BUT, BUT THE CONCLUSION IS, IS THAT THE BLACK OFFICERS ARE SLIGHTLY MORE LIKELY TO ARREST BLACK SUSPECTS THAN WHITE OR HISPANIC OFFICERS. 
          OKAY? SO AS YOU'RE DOING YOUR ANALYSIS AND, AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO THIS RESEARCH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME PERSONALLY. 
          2,501, TOTAL REST, 1,214 OF THEM ARE BLACK INDIVIDUALS, OKAY? THIRD GRADERS ARE IN THE THIRD GRADE IS WHEN PRIVATE PRISONS DECIDE HOW MANY PRISONS THEY'RE GONNA BUILD IN THE FUTURE. 
          NINE YEAR OLDS, RIGHT THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. 
          FIFTH GRADERS USUALLY DON'T MAKE IT ANOTHER 10 YEARS. 
          BLACK MALES, THEY'RE KILLED ON THE STREET AT A HIGH NUMBER APPROACHING THAT SAME NUMBER AS BLACK INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY. 
          APPROACHING THAT 20% MARK, THIS NUMBER STILL IS DISTURBING TO ME. 
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NOW, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO ALL THIS RESEARCH THAT YOU DID, BUT THIS NUMBER IS ALMOST 50% ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          AND IF, AND IF THIS NUMBER IS, UH, 1200, THEN THAT'S ROUGHLY A THOUSAND A MONTH. 
          SO 12,000 BLACK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ARRESTED IN DALLAS OVER THE COURSE OF 2024. 
          I'M, I'M SAFE. 
          I'M, I FEEL CONFIDENT IN SAYING THAT NUMBER. 
          SO I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU'VE PUT INTO IT, BUT WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA DIVE DEEPER TO FIND OUT, BECAUSE IT'S HURTING PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME, ALL RIGHT? AND I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN, I HAVE GRANDSONS WHO WILL RIDE ABOUT THAT AGE OF WHERE THEY'RE INFLUENTIAL OR CAN BE INFLUENCED BY THE STREET, NO MATTER WHAT I TELL THEM, NO MATTER WHAT I TRY TO DO, THE STREETS ARE ALWAYS CALLING. 
          SO I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE OTHER BLACK AND BROWN BABIES, AND I'M NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM, FROM, FROM WHITE CHILDREN. 
          TRUST ME, I AM NOT, I GREW UP IN NORTH DALLAS, BUT I SPENT ALL MY TIME SOUTH OF 30. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE THAT DISCREPANCY IS. 
          WE GOTTA FIND OUT. 
          IT'S UP TO US. 
          AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT NUMBER IS SO BIG. 
          DOES, DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT NUMBER IS HUGE. 
          AND YOU ARE ALL ABOUT DATA. 
          SO WE GOT TO FIND OUT THE WHY. 
          WE GOTTA FIND OUT THE WHY. 
          AND AND AGAIN, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT, BUT WHAT WE GOTTA FIND OUT THE WHY, BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON WHY IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY WE LIVE IN THAT NOBODY SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY PRISONS TO BUILD WHEN BABIES ARE IN THE THIRD GRADE. 
          AND NOBODY SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHY AT THE FIFTH GRADE, ALMOST 20% OF THOSE KIDS WON'T MAKE IT ANOTHER 10 YEARS. 
          OKAY? SO I APPRECIATE IT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MAYBE SPEAKING WITH YOU MORE AND PICKING YOUR BRAIN AND YOU PICKING MINE AND, AND, AND JUST TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. 
          AND, AND I, I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT THAT, THAT THESE RACIAL DISPARITIES WITH THE POPULATION SHOULD NOT BE OF CONCERN. 
          THEY SHOULD OBVIOUSLY BE OF GREAT CONCERN. 
          AND I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY THAT WE, WE NEED TO, I MEAN, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT MY OP-ED WAS ABOUT. 
          WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON. 
          AND BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE AND MY RESEARCH, YOU CANNOT DRIVE DOWN THOSE DISPARITIES BY SIMPLY LOOKING AT THE POLICE. 
          THERE, THERE, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF HIRING, TRAINING, SUPERVISION, POLICIES, THAT'S GOING TO DRAMATICALLY REDUCE THOSE RACIAL DISPARITIES. 
          WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO DIG DEEPER AND FIND OUT THE ROOT CAUSES AND THEN ADDRESS THOSE CAUSES, AND THEN THE POLICE WILL JUST DO THEIR JOBS AND THE RACIAL DISPARITIES WON'T BE THERE. 
          I TOTALLY AGREE. 
          I TOTALLY AGREE. 
          IT BEGINS AT HOME. 
          I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. 
          BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS NUMBER, THIS BLEEDS OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE, DOWN THE STREET THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALL OVER THE PLACE, BECAUSE IF THIS NUMBER IS THIS HIGH, I KNOW 7 5 2, 1 6, LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND, I KNOW 7, 5, 2, 2 0 BECAUSE I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL, RIGHT IN THAT AREA OF WEBB CHAPEL. 
          I LIVE IN ELM THICKET. 
          I COULD THROW A ROCK FROM MY HOUSE STRAIGHT OVER INTO WEBB CHAPEL. 
          SO I KNOW THE AREA AND I KNOW WHAT THE AREA WAS LIKE 40 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. 
          SO YES, IT STARTS AT HOME, BUT ALSO THERE IS ANOTHER PROBLEM BECAUSE THE NUMBER'S TOO HIGH. 
          IF WE'RE FAILING AS A PEOPLE, YOU CAN COME BACK TO ME AND TELL ME, HEY, WE'RE FAILING AS A PEOPLE. 
          SO I JUST, I JUST, I JUST KIND OF NEED TO KNOW. 
          AND THAT'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT, IS THAT I'M, OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT FROM DALLAS. 
          I DON'T KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, I DON'T KNOW YOUR ZIP CODES. 
          AND ALL I CAN DO IS PRESENT YOU WITH THE DATA, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS. 
          I KNOW THE SOLUTIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE, IN THESE AREAS, BUT I, I, I HOPE THAT THE DATA CAN AT LEAST BEGIN THE DISCUSSION AND GET YOU STARTED ON, ON FOCUSING ON THE REAL PROBLEM. 
          THANK YOU FOR SKILLS. 
          AGAIN. 
          UH, THIS HAS BEEN SUCH GOOD INFORMATION AND THIS HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION WE'VE BEEN HAVING AS A BOARD FOR, UH, SEVERAL, SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          AND, UH, THIS ADDS TO THAT DISCUSSION, GREAT INFORMATION THAT WILL CONTINUE TO ALLOW US TO INTELLIGENTLY ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. 
          'CAUSE WE CARE ABOUT IT DEEPLY. 
          AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A, A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THAT, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UH, BEFORE I LET YOU GO, I WANNA JUST, UH, LET ANY BOARD MEMBERS ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE, UH, UH, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. 
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OKAY. 
          MR. SKILLS, ANY LAST WORDS OR, UH, YOU SAID, YOU SAID WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY. 
          WE'RE, YOU'RE GOOD? I JUST, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION. 
          IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR TIME, FOR YOUR EXPERTISE, FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, AND FOR THE RESEARCH THAT YOU DO. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, YOU'VE GIVEN US A LOT TO CHEW ON. 
          WE'LL PROBABLY BE TALKING ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION FOR MONTHS, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN THE FUTURE, UH, STILL DISSECTING AND EVALUATING WHAT WAS SAID HERE TODAY. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND INTERIM CHIEF AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU FOR, UH, IN INVITING MR. SCALES HERE AND FOR THAT INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, WE, WE WERE GONNA MOVE ON NOW TO THE NEXT MEETING, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY, SO FEEL FREE TO, TO HEAD, UH, TO YOUR NEXT APPOINTMENT. 
          AND I DO WANT TO, UH, IS, UM, IF, IF THE BOARD DOES NOT OBJECT, UH, OPEN UP THE, UH, THE MEETING ONCE AGAIN TO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UH, APPARENTLY THE, UH, SOME OF THE DOORS WERE LOCKED DOWNSTAIRS AND SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD COME TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT THEY WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND. 
          AND SO IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, UH, FROM THE BOARD, I'D LIKE TO INVITE TWO SPEAKERS FORWARD TO GIVE THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO FIRST IN INVITE DR. 
          ANGEL DUR, UH, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, DR. 
          DUR FOR KAMAN. 
          YOU CAN, UH, IF YOU GO ON JUST RIGHT THERE WHERE THE INTERIM CHIEF WAS, UH, STANDING OR SITTING WHERE THE MICROPHONE IS, OR YOU CAN SIT THERE. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UH, UH, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, IS, UH, WE GIVE EACH SPEAKER THREE MINUTES, AND, UH, WHENEVER YOU BEGIN, I'LL START THE TIMER AND THEN, UH, I HAVE IT TO WHERE THE TIMER WILL GO OFF AT THREE MINUTES. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND IF YOU COULD, WE'RE NOT GONNA CUT YOU OFF. 
          YEAH. 
          WE WERE. 
          WHAT YOU SAY, BUT IF YOU COULD FINISH YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS THEN FOR SURE. 
          UH, AND WE'LL ADDRESS IT. 
          BUT, UH, WHENEVER YOU BEGIN, THE FLOOR WILL BE YOURS IN THREE MINUTES, WE'LL START. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND START IT. 
          UM, GOOD EVENING, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          MY NAME IS DR. 
          ANGEL DUR, AND MY FAMILY, THE DAVISES, HAVE LIVED IN DALLAS FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS, SPECIFICALLY IN SOUTH DALLAS. 
          I JUST WANNA START BY SAYING THAT, AND I CAME TO DALLAS SPECIFICALLY TO GET MY DOCTORATE. 
          UM, SO I CAME HERE FOR OPPORTUNITY AND THE HOPES OF BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE MY FAMILY'S LEGACY HERE IN THE CITY. 
          MY MOTHER, UM, TTA MAE WASHINGTON, WAS MURDERED IN SOUTH DALLAS ON APRIL 21ST, 25TH, 2021. 
          SHE WAS WALKING ALONE AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT IN A DARK AREA OF THE CITY WHEN SHE WAS SHOT IN THE CENTER OF HER FOREHEAD FROM A MOVING VEHICLE. 
          AND I WILL REMEMBER IT FOREVER, BECAUSE I WAS THE ONE WHO HAD TO ID HER BODY. 
          DESPITE OFFICERS BEING ON THE SCENE AND VIDEO EVIDENCE CAPTURING THE CRIME, THERE ARE STILL ZERO SUSPECTS TO DATE. 
          THE CASE WAS EVEN USED TO PASS ORDINANCES TARGETING CAR TAKEOVERS. 
          YET NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE IN SOLVING HER MURDER. 
          I WAS TOLD OFFICERS DON'T KNOW THE SHOOTER'S DIRECTION, BUT WHEN I PERSONALLY VISITED THE SCENE, THERE WAS A CLEAR BULLET MARK ON THE POLE BY WHERE SHE WAS SHOT, SHOWING EXACTLY WHERE THE SHOOTER WAS POSITIONED, CALLING THIS AN ACCIDENT, WHICH HAS BEEN REPEATED TO ME OVER AND OVER BY THE OFFICERS HANDLING THE CASE DEFIES LOGIC SCIENCE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW ABOUT FEMICIDE. 
          I'M SO GLAD I CAME TONIGHT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DATA, BECAUSE TO SUGGEST THAT A SINGLE WOMAN WALKING ALONE WAS SHOT IN THIS WAY BY ACCIDENT FROM A MOVING VEHICLE, IS BOTH ILLOGICAL AND DISRESPECTFUL TO MY FAMILY. 
          SINCE MY MOTHER'S MURDER, I'VE EXPERIENCED VIOLENCE MYSELF IN THE FORM OF BEING DRUG DOWNTOWN. 
          AND THE THEFT OF MY STOCK RIMS AND TIRES OFF MY TOYOTA COROLLA, THE SENSE OF URGENCY I HAVE TO GET MY MOM'S CASE SOLVED IS PRETTY HIGH. 
          HOW CAN WE ENSURE YOUR OFFICERS FEEL THE SAME SENSE OF URGENCY TO PURSUE JUSTICE? THIS CASE WAS UNASSIGNED AFTER JUST 90 DAYS DUE TO AN OFFICER'S SUDDEN RETIREMENT. 
          AND IT TOOK ME SIX MONTHS OF CALLING THE OFFICE TO GET THE CASE REASSIGNED TO SOMEONE WHERE IT IMMEDIATELY WENT TO COLD CASE. 
          LIKE MANY FAMILIES IN THIS CITY, I'VE BEEN TOLD I NEED TO HIRE A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR OR GO ON THE FIRST 48 IF I WANT ANYTHING DONE FOR MY MOM'S HOMICIDE. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, THESE ARE RHETORICAL QUESTIONS. 
          HOW ARE YOU MODERNIZING YOUR POLICE TACTICS? I HEARD THAT MENTIONED EARLIER, THE TRADITIONAL TACTICS ARE NOT WORKING, BUT HOW ARE YOU ACTUALLY UPSKILLING THE FORCE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE? THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          AND HOW ARE YOU USING DATA AND TECHNOLOGY TO DRIVE YOUR DECISION MAKING? HOW WILL YOU COLLECT BETTER CRIME ON DATA? BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT, THAT YOU NEED TO DO JUST THAT. 
          AND HOW I'D LIKE TO SEE DETAILED DATA ON THE AMOUNT OF WORK DONE ON A PARTICULAR CASE, ITS RESOLUTION, WHERE IT OCCURRED, AND WHICH OFFICERS WERE INVOLVED. 
          WITHOUT THIS INFORMATION, HOW CAN YOU EVALUATE PERFORMANCE AND PROGRESS? I ALSO FIND THE COMMENTS ABOUT DATA INTERESTING, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN OFFERING TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP THIS FORCE FOR OVER TWO YEARS AS A DATA SCIENTIST MYSELF. 
          BEFORE COVID, I ACTUALLY WORKED WITH THE CITY ON DATA 
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PROJECTS. 
          SO THE LACK OF FOLLOW UP FOR ME PERSONALLY, AS VERY FRUSTRATING. 
          I TEACH DATA SCIENCE AT SMU MYSELF, AND I WORK AS A CONSULTANT IN DATA SCIENCE AT JP P MORGAN CHASE, MYSELF. 
          SEEING HOW POORLY THIS DATA IS MANAGED IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME AS A CITIZEN OF THIS CITY. 
          IT COULD MEAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOLVING A CASE AND NOT SOLVING A CASE. 
          I HAVE A FEW FOLLOW-UP RHETORICAL QUESTIONS. 
          HOW DO YOU PRIORITIZE CASES LIKE THIS FROM BECOMING COLD? HOW WILL YOU ADDRESS RACIAL DISPARITIES? NOT JUST IN ARREST, BUT HOW MUCH SUPPORT FAMILIES RECEIVE? WHAT TRAINING DOES YOUR FORCE HAVE FOR WORKING WITH DISABLED CRIME VICTIMS LIKE ME AND MY MOTHER, WHO ARE BOTH AUTISTIC? TO CONCLUDE, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT. 
          I'VE ALREADY CHECKED THE BOX TO HAVE SOMEONE FOLLOW UP WITH ME, AND I'VE SUBMITTED A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO THIS BOARD AS WELL ABOUT MY EXPERIENCES WITH THE OFFICERS. 
          LASTLY, HOW ARE OFFICERS HELD ACCOUNTABLE? ARE YOU TRACKING SOLVED CASES COMPARED TO CASELOADS? IF I IGNORED EVIDENCE OR FAILED TO MEET MY EXPECTATIONS IN MY JOB, I WOULD LOSE IT. 
          PERHAPS. 
          OFFICERS WHO AREN'T HERE TO SERVE AND PROTECT EVERYONE EQUALLY SHOULD CONSIDER DIFFERENT EMPLOYMENT. 
          FAMILIES LIKE MINE DESERVE URGENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND REAL SOLUTIONS, NOT EXCUSES. 
          NUMBERS DON'T LIE, BUT THE STORIES WE TELL WITH THEM CAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PEOPLE TELLING THEM ARE FAR TOO FAR REMOVED FROM THE TRUTH TO SEE THE FULL PICTURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. 
          DOER. 
          UH, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, I WANTED TO JUST EXPRESS, UM, OUR SADNESS ABOUT YOUR MOTHER. 
          I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          AND, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR BRAVERY TODAY TO SHARE THAT STORY. 
          UH, AND THE QUESTIONS YOU ASK ARE VALID. 
          THEY'RE GREAT QUESTIONS, AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU HAVE CHECKED THE BOX, YOU HAVE FILED A COMPLAINT, AND I KNOW THE OFFICE WILL DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND HOPE TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          I'LL BE HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'D LIKE TO NOW INVITE MS. SHANITA CLEVELAND, UH, TO THE FLOOR. 
          THANK YOU, UH, FOR BEING HERE. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW THE DRILL. 
          UM, YEAH, WHEN YOU BEGIN THE, UH, SPEAKING, WE WILL START THREE MINUTES AND YOU'LL HEAR, UH, THE, THE TIMER GO OFF AT THREE MINUTES. 
          AND IF YOU COULD JUST, UH, GO AHEAD AND CLOSE OUT YOUR FINAL THOUGHTS AT THAT TIME. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN HEAR YOU NOW. 
          OKAY, AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UH, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. 
          I'M SO GLAD, UH, THAT I DID COME TONIGHT. 
          UH, I DO BELIEVE IN DIVINE TIMING, SO, UH, WITH NO OFFICER OR THE DOORS BEING LOCKED DOWNSTAIRS AND US NOT BEING ABLE TO GET IN, I WAS ABLE TO KIND OF SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND RECOGNIZE ANOTHER GLITCH IN THE SYSTEM HERE AT THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          AND SO, UM, I HEARD YOU MENTION, OR SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT HAVING SOME KIND OF DOCUMENTS FOR MONTHS NOW, EARLIER. 
          UH, WELL, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD MY PHONE NUMBER FOR MONTHS, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          I KNOW THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE YOU STATED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE ME A CALL, UH, FOLLOW UP. 
          I, I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM YOU. 
          UH, WHICH IS JUST ANOTHER INDICATOR THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON IN COMMUNITY AND POLICE OVERSIGHT ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, SO DO YOU REALLY CARE, IS THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I WAS REALLY WAITING FOR YOUR PHONE CALL. 
          I, I REALLY WAS, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, MY EXPERIENCE IS OUT IN THE STREETS AND WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, CAN REALLY BENEFIT, UH, MAYBE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS. 
          AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, UM, FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE YOU GUYS ARE, ARE YOU GONNA BE LOOKING AT, UH, THE ARREST FOR MARIJUANA, MARIJUANA ARRESTS? ARE YOU GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, STILL ARRESTING LOW LEVEL, UM, OFFENSES, YOU KNOW, UH, SINCE PROPOSITION R HAS PASSED? AND ALSO, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT EARLIER I SAW THE INTERIM POLICE CHIEF AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING, AND I WAS A LITTLE PERTURBED, A LITTLE UPSET, UH, WHEN I, I, I WENT THERE SPECIFICALLY TO SEE HIM, UH, BECAUSE I HAD TRIED TO GET INTO A MEETING WITH HIM. 
          UM, AND, UH, HE, HE DECIDED NOT TO TAKE THE MEETING AT THE END, I GUESS BECAUSE OF WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR. 
          THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO DO, I KNOW THIS DOESN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO DO WITH POLICE OVERSIGHT, BUT I GUESS SINCE THEY'RE TELLING YOU GUYS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING, UH, YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING. 
          AND SO, UM, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD, I DON'T MIND WORKING WITH THE POLICE WITH, UH, LIKE MR. AC CHRISTIAN, UM, JUNIOR. 
          AND, UM, HE'S THE FIRST BLACK MOTORCYCLE COP HERE IN DALLAS. 
          UH, HE, HE'S THE SECOND LONGEST SERVING DALLAS POLICE OFFICER. 
          AND, UH, SOME OF THE OFFICERS FELT LIKE HE DESERVED TO BE MEMORIALIZED. 
          AND WHEN I GOT THE NEWS THAT THE CHIEF WOULDN'T MEET WITH ME, I, I WAS LIKE A BALLOON BEING DEFLATED. 
          I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS WITH COMMUNITY AND POLICE, BUT WHEN YOU TRY TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP, YOU GET SORT OF LIKE A, UM, CLOSED DOOR. 
          I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S THE WORD I'M USING. 
          SO HOPEFULLY, UH, COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT WITH MS. ANDRE. 
          I, I DON'T NEVER SEE HER IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW, UH, MAYBE IT'S JUST ME. 
          MAYBE I SEE HER AT THE 
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MARTIN LUTHER KING PARADE OR SOMETHING. 
          I'M NOT FOR SURE. 
          UM, BUT I, I DO HOPE TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS, UH, IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THERE IS WORK TO DO. 
          AND I'M SO GLAD THAT I ACTUALLY SPOKE LATER. 
          LIKE I SAID, I DO BELIEVE IN DIVINE TIMING AND I'M NOT UPSET, EVEN THOUGH INITIALLY A LITTLE BIT PERTURBED FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO GET IN. 
          BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING, UH, US TO SPEAK AND, AND HEAR US OUT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          I'LL BE BACK THOUGH. 
          I DIDN'T, I WAS, I WAS THROWN OFF, SO I DIDN'T EVEN GET A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT ABOUT THE CHIEF. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT IT WORKED OUT NOW. 
          THANK YOU, MS. CLEVELAND. 
          AND YOU ASKED A QUESTION, DO I, DO YOU, UH, I CARE? AND THE ANSWER IS YES, I DO. 
          AND I THANK YOU FOR, UH, HOLDING ME ACCOUNTABLE. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          I SAID I WAS GONNA REACH OUT TO YOU. 
          I HAVEN'T DONE THAT, BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE AND I'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. 
          YOU WANNA ADDRESS ONE OF HER COMMENTS? UH, YES. 
          UH, MS. CLEVELAND, SHE, ONE OF THE BOARD MEETING WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          WE DON'T GENERALLY GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT ALL THE ARREST DATA FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE, JUST PROACTIVELY. 
          WE'RE SORT OF A BOARD THAT, UM, DEPENDS ON COMPLAINTS AND STUFF. 
          BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN THE COURTHOUSE, AND REALLY IT'S ONLY ABOUT TWO WEEKS INTO THE YEAR, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY MISDEMEANOR OR ARRESTS FOR MARIJUANA YET. 
          BUT I'VE GOT YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER. 
          IF I SEE ANYTHING HINKY, I'LL LET YOU KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SHE JUST USED THAT WORD. 
          I SAID JANKY EARLIER. 
          YOU'RE SO SWEET. 
          I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. 
          SEE YA. 
          THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT YET AGAIN. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY ON THAT. 
          AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ASK FOR THE POLICY ANALYST, SIERRA OBSU, UH, TO, UH, COME FORWARD WITH A TEAM, UH, TO JUST TO, IT'S SOMETHING EXCITING. 
          THIS IS KIND OF COOL TALKING ABOUT DATA. 
          IT IS A THEME FOR TODAY. 
          I KNOW THE OCPO HAS BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO DEVELOP, UH, OUR OWN, UH, DATA DASHBOARD. 
          AND I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE IMPRESSED, UH, WITH WHAT YOU SEE TODAY. 
          UH, BUT THE CHAIR, UH, WOULD, WOULD NOW LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, DIRECTOR, DO YOU WANT THE FLOOR OR, UH, SIERRA I'LL GIVE IT TO, UH, SIERRA. 
          UH, SIERRA BASUI, IF YOU COULD, UH, BEGIN THIS CONVERSATION AND ENLIGHTEN US AS BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THE PROGRESS MADE ON THE OCPO ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          AGAIN, MY NAME IS SIERRA MONTOYA OBSU, AND I'M THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT. 
          AND I WILL BE GIVING THIS PRESENTATION NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          IN THE PRESENTATION OVERVIEW, I'LL BE GOING OVER THE BACKGROUND OR THE MISSION OF THE OFFICE AND THE PURPOSE OF THE DASHBOARD, AND ALSO AN OVERVIEW OF COMPLAINT, DEMOGRAPHICS, RESOLUTIONS, AND ACCOMMODATION DATA, ALONG WITH A DASHBOARD PREVIEW FROM THE DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE TEAM. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE MISSION OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT IS TO ENSURE CIVILIAN COMPLAINTS ARE REVIEWED IMPARTIALLY TO ENHANCE THE TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE COMMUNITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE PURPOSE OF CREATING THIS DASHBOARD WAS TO ENHANCE TRANSPARENCY AND PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF COMPLAINT DATA BY GIVING INSIGHT INTO COMPLAINT DEMOGRAPHICS LIKE AGE, RACE, OR GENDER. 
          AND ALSO DISPLAY COMPLAINT RESOLUTION TRACKING, LIKE THE INVESTIGATIVE ROUTE OR INTAKE METHOD. 
          IT WILL ALSO SHOWCASE THE DATA OF THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK OR ACCOMMODATIONS THE OFFICERS ARE RECEIVING. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          AND THIS COMPLAINT OVERVIEW, BREAKDOWN OF OUR DASHBOARD. 
          WE WORKED WITH IAD AND DBI TO COMPILE DATA FROM THE INCEPTION OF THE OFFICE TO PRESENT DAY. 
          SO FISCAL YEAR 2022, FISCAL YEAR 2025. 
          SOME OF THE DATA OR NUMBERS MAY BE OFF A LITTLE BIT, AND WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH DBI TO TWEAK FOR ACCURACY. 
          SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE FORMING YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          THE COMPLAINT OVERVIEW SHOWS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS, THE AVERAGE COMPLAINTS PER MONTH, AND THE COMPLAINTS IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS. 
          SO THIS IS A REFLECTION OF THE LAST THREE MONTHS TO PRESENT DAY, SO JANUARY, DECEMBER, AND NOVEMBER. 
          IT ALSO SHOWS THE INVESTIGATIVE ROUTE AND THE COMPLAINT INTAKE METHOD, ALONG WITH THE DATA BEING FILTERED INTO THE MAP BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE COMPLAINT DEMOGRAPHICS SHOWS THE AVERAGE OF COMPLAINANTS, THE AVERAGE AGE OF COMPLAINANTS, THE COMPLAINTS FROM MINORITIES BY GENDER, BY RACE AND AGE, AND 
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IT IS ALSO FILTERED INTO THE MAP BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT ALONG WITH DIVISION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AND THE COMPLAINT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE COMPLAINT RESOLUTION SIDE. 
          WE HAVE THE MEDIAN DAYS TO INCIDENT CLOSING, THE PERCENTAGE OF COMPLAINTS AND THE PERCENTAGE OF COMPLAINTS CLOSED UNDER 180 DAYS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE COMPLAINT RECEIVED OUTCOME, THE FINDINGS OF THE SUSTAINED ALLEGATIONS, AND ALSO, UM, COMPLAINANTS CAN PUT IN THEIR NIDR OR SEE A NUMBER AT THE BOTTOM TO SEE THE STATUS OF THEIR COMPLAINTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE ACCOMMODATION DATA, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ACCOMMODATIONS THAT ARE RECEIVED EXTERNALLY AND THE ACCOMMODATIONS PER MONTH. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE OFFICERS DEMOGRAPHICS BY RACE AND GENDER, ALONG WITH THE ACCOMMODATION TYPE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AND NOW I'LL PASS IT OVER TO THE DASHBOARD FOR A DASHBOARD PREVIEW FROM THE DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE TEAM. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          MY NAME IS DR. 
          BRITTA ANDER, AND I SERVE AS THE CHIEF DATA OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          IN THAT CAPACITY, I ALSO SERVE AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE. 
          WE ARE THRILLED TO BE WITH YOU HERE THIS EVENING, UM, TO SHOW YOU THIS PRODUCT, TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          UH, THIS IS NOT YET PUBLIC, BUT WE ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP IT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT, THIS BOARD, AS WELL AS OUR CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND SO THIS PROVIDES A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF HOW COMPLAINTS ARE SUBMITTED, CATEGORIZED INSIGHTS INTO THE DEMOGRAPHICS, AS SIERRA MENTIONED. 
          UM, AND WE WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK AS WE WORK TO ENHANCE THIS. 
          AND SO TODAY, TAMIKA MORRISON, WHO IS A DATA ANALYTICS MANAGER IN OUR OFFICE, IS GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF FIVE MINUTE LIVE DEMO, UM, TO SHOWCASE THE FEATURES AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, DR. 
          AND THE DASHBOARD COVERS THE PERIOD OF 2019 TO 2025, BROKEN DOWN BY FISCAL YEAR, AND IT WILL BE UPDATED MONTHLY. 
          FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS WALKTHROUGH WILL ONLY COVER FISCAL YEAR 2024. 
          THE DASHBOARD IS ORGANIZED INTO FOUR PAGES, THE COMPLAINT OVERVIEW, COMPLAINT, DEMOGRAPHICS, THE COMPLAINT, RESOLUTIONS, AND ACCOMMODATIONS. 
          EACH PAGE IS DIVIDED INTO THREE SECTIONS. 
          THE BANNER THAT INCLUDES THE INFORMATION ICONS, THE FISCAL YEAR FILTER, AND THE PAGE BUTTONS, THE BIG AUTHORITATIVE NUMBERS ACROSS THE TOP OF THE DASHBOARD AND THE VISUALS IN THE BODY OF THE DASHBOARD. 
          WE'LL START WITH THE COMPLAINT. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL START WITH THE COMPLAINT OVERVIEW PAGE. 
          THE FISCAL YEAR FILTER ON THE LEFT FILTERS THIS ENTIRE PAGE BY THE FISCAL YEAR ALONG THE TOP DISPLAYS THE TOTAL COMPLAINTS RECEIVED FOR THE CHOSEN FISCAL YEAR. 
          HOVERING DISPLAYS A VISUAL THAT BREAKS DOWN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR TOTALS. 
          THE NEXT CARD SHOWS THE AVERAGE COMPLAINTS BY MONTH. 
          HOVERING AGAIN SHOWS THE AVERAGES FOR THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEARS. 
          THE FINAL CARD SHOWS THE COMPLAINTS RECEIVED IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS RELATIVE TO TODAY'S DATE. 
          HOVERING ALSO DISPLAYS A BREAKDOWN BY THE DAYS RECEIVED. 
          FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION, UM, THE LAST THREE MONTHS WILL COVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR, 2024. 
          ON THE FIRST VISUAL, THERE'S A LINE CHART THAT SHOWS THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS RECEIVED BY MONTH. 
          BELOW THAT, WE HAVE A VISUAL THAT DISPLAYS THE COMPLAINTS BROKEN DOWN BY THE INVESTIGATION, THE INVESTIGATIVE ROUTE, AND THE FINAL VISUAL SHOWS THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS RECEIVED BY THE INTAKE METHOD. 
          HOVERING OVER ANY OF THESE VISUALS, WE'LL PULL UP A TOOL TIP THAT PROVIDES MORE INFORMATION. 
          ON THE RIGHT, WE HAVE A MAP THAT DISPLAYS THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS RECEIVED BY ZIP CODE PATROL DIVISION AND COUNCIL DISTRICT HOVERING OVER THESE MAPS ALSO PULL UP A TOOL TIP THAT BREAKS DOWN THE COMPLAINT OUTCOME. 
          USERS CAN ACCESS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, INCLUDING DEFINITIONS AND OCPO RESOURCES BY HOVERING OVER THE INFORMATION ICON ON THE BANNER. 
          NEXT, WE HAVE THE COMPLAINT DEMOGRAPHICS PAGE. 
          THE FISCAL YEAR FILTER IS ON THE LEFT, AND AGAIN, IT FILTERS THE ENTIRE PAGE. 
          THE FIRST CARD ON THE TOP, WE HAVE THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE COMPLAINANTS HOVERING DISPLAYS A VISUAL THAT SHOWS THE BREAKDOWN BY FISCAL YEAR TO THE RIGHT, WE HAVE THE COMPLAINTS FROM MINORITIES, WHICH SHOWS THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THOSE WHO SELF-IDENTIFIED AS NON-WHITE. 
          GOING DOWN THE LEFT, WE HAVE THREE VISUALS, THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS RECEIVED BY COMPLAINANTS, GENDER, RACE, AND AGE. 
          KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE SELF-REPORTED, SO NOT ALL COMPLAINANTS HAVE FILLED OUT THIS INFORMATION. 
          ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE, WE HAVE ANOTHER MAP. 
          THE MAP DISPLAYS A NUMBER 
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OF COMPLAINTS RECEIVED BY ZIP CODE, PATROL DIVISION, AND COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          THIS PAGE CAN ALSO BE FILTERED BY ANY OF THE VISUALS ON THE LEFT. 
          USERS CAN ALSO ACCESS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PAGE BY HOVERING OVER THE INFORMATION ICON ON THE BANNER. 
          NEXT, WE HAVE THE COMPLAINT RESOLUTIONS PAGE. 
          THE FISCAL YEAR FILTER, AGAIN, IS ON THE LEFT, AND IT FILTERS THE ENTIRE PAGE. 
          WE HAVE THREE BAND CARDS ACROSS THE TOP, THE FIRST BEING THE AVERAGE DAYS TO CLOSE, THE NEXT BEING THE PERCENTAGE OF COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED, AND THE LAST BEING THE THE PERCENTAGE OF COMPLAINTS THAT WERE CLOSED IN UNDER 180 DAYS. 
          UNDER THE BAND CARDS, WE HAVE TWO VISUALS. 
          ON THE LEFT, WE HAVE THE COMPLAINT RECEIVED OUTCOME, WHICH SHOWS THE COUNT OF THE COMPLAINTS RECEIVED, AND ITS OUT BY ITS OUTCOME. 
          ON THE RIGHT, WE HAVE THE FOUNDING THE FINDINGS OF SUSTAINED ALLEGATIONS, WHICH SHOWS THE NUMBER OF SUSTAINED COMPLAINTS BY INVESTIGATION ROUTE. 
          AT THE BOTTOM, WE HAVE COMPLAINTS BY INCIDENT NUMBER ON A TABLE WHERE COMPLAINANTS CAN VIEW THE DETAILS OF COMPLAINTS. 
          THE TABLE IS FILTERABLE BY ANY OF THE FILLS THAT CAN BE SEEN IN THE HEADER. 
          USERS CAN ALSO TYPE IN THEIR EXTERNAL COMPLAINT NUMBER TO VIEW THE DETAILS ABOUT THEIR OWN COMPLAINT. 
          AGAIN, THE INFORMATION ICON ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          THE FINAL PAGE WE HAVE IS THE ACCOMMODATIONS PAGE. 
          THE ACCOMMODATIONS PLAY PAGE DISPLAYS THE PRAISE THAT DPD OFFICER RECEIVES FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          ACROSS THE TOP, WE HAVE TWO BAND CARDS. 
          ON THE LEFT, WE HAVE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ACCOMMODATIONS RECEIVED, AND ON THE RIGHT WE HAVE THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF ACCOMMODATIONS RECEIVED PER MONTH. 
          COMING DOWN THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PAGE, WE HAVE THE NUMBER OF ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED BASED ON AN OFFICER'S GENDER AND RACE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN BY ACCOMMODATION TYPE BELOW. 
          DOWN THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE, WE HAVE THE NUMBER OF ACCOMMODATIONS RECEIVED BY FISCAL YEAR AND THE NUMBER OF OF ACCOMMODATIONS RECEIVED BY MONTH. 
          AGAIN, USERS CAN ALSO ACCESS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PAGE BY HOVERING OVER THE ICON. 
          IN CLOSING, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS DASHBOARD WILL BE HELPFUL TO D-P-D-O-C-P-O AND THE PUBLIC TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AND TRACK COMPLAINTS FROM DALLAS RESIDENTS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          UM, THANK YOU TO THE OFFICE OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT. 
          IT WAS A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU TO OUR AMAZING TEAM, TAMIKA MORRISON AND DARION BLACK, WHO WORKED ON THIS AND PUT THIS TOGETHER. 
          WE'RE EAGER FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I WANNA OPEN, OPEN UP TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, IS THERE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, SUGGESTIONS, UH, FOR THIS AMAZING PANEL AT THIS TIME? YES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. RA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU LADIES. 
          UM, LIKE A LOT OF REALLY PUBLIC FACING, UM, RESOURCES. 
          I KNOW THAT WE GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO DON'T NECESSARILY FUNDAMENTALLY UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF THE OFFICE. 
          UM, AND, AND SOME OF THOSE FOLKS WILL MAKE REPEATED COMPLAINTS, PERHAPS EVEN DAILY COMPLAINTS. 
          AND SO I WONDER IF THIS, UM, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP, I'M SEEING SOME HOTSPOTS AND I'M JUST REALLY WONDERING IF THOSE ARE THE PLACES WHERE THESE, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE TO SEVEN PEOPLE WHO CALL US ALL THE TIME  MIGHT LIVE. 
          IS THERE A WAY TO LOOK AT SOME OF THIS DEMOGRAPHIC AND LOCATION DATA WHILE FILTERING OUT THINGS THAT ARE NOT JUST NOT SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS, BUT ARE, I WANNA FILTER OUT BASICALLY THE FUNDAMENTALLY NOT APPROPRIATE DATA. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? RIGHT. 
          LIKE THE CHRONIC OR REPEAT CALLERS, THAT'S ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE DAILY SORT OF THING. 
          WE CAN ABSOLUTELY WORK WITH THE, UH, WITH THE OFFICE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE DATA AND SEE IF WE CAN DRILL DOWN TO THAT LAYER. 
          AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT FEELS EXTRANEOUS OR LIKE AN OUTLIER, UM, WE COULD TALK ABOUT REMOVING IT. 
          BECAUSE LIKE SOME PEOPLE WILL CALL AND REPORT GRAND PRAIRIE POLICE DEPARTMENT THING, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST DON'T WANNA SEE THAT IN THE DATA. 
          IF, IF WE'RE GONNA USE THE DATA TO MAKE ACTUAL DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW? AND CAN WE GO BACK TO THE COMPLAINT OVERVIEW PAGE REAL QUICK? DARION, I JUST WANNA CHECK, I THINK WE DO HAVE LIKE A MISCELLANEOUS CATEGORY, BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT SUGGESTION. 
          AND THAT DATA IS NOT INCLUDED IN, IF IT'S OUT OF, UM, OUTSIDE AGENCY, IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN OUR MAP. 
          IT'S ONLY THE COMPLAINTS THAT HAVE RELATED. 
          BUT, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE WHO CALL AND SAY THAT THEIR 
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BOYFRIENDS HAVE SET UP LASERS TO READ THEIR MINDS, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM . 
          UM, AND SO, AND I JUST WANNA, IF WE'RE, IF WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS USE THIS DATA TO SEE WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE PROBLEMS BETWEEN THE POLICE AND THE COMMUNITY, I'D LIKE TO WEED OUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          IF, IF POSSIBLE, NOT, NOT INCLUDE THEM IN THE DATA, BUT JUST HAVE AN EASY WAY TO, TO WEED THEM OUT. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          WE'LL, ABSOLUTELY. 
          TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND COORDINATE WITH THE OFFICE. 
          THANK YOU, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. 
          DOCTOR, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE REPORT. 
          IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE. 
          I I LOVE YOUR TEAM. 
          UM, I, I STUDY DATA ANALYTICS, SO I UNDERSTAND USING THE DASHBOARD AND IT BEING INTERACTIVE, BEING VERY VALUABLE TO ALL OF US. 
          UM, HOW SOON WILL IT, WILL, WILL IT BE AVAILABLE TO US? GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO TAKE WHATEVER FEEDBACK WE HEAR HERE THIS EVENING, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS IT, UH, WITH THE DIRECTOR AND SIERRA, AND, AND SEE IF WE CAN INCORPORATE THOSE THINGS. 
          WE WILL THEN, UH, MOST LIKELY TAKE IT TO PUBLIC SAFETY, SEE IF THEY HAVE FEEDBACK AND INCORPORATE IT. 
          SO WE WILL, UH, WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO GET THIS UP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND, AND COMMUNICATE THAT BACK TO YOU ALL. 
          SO OUR HOPE IS AS SOON AS WE CAN MAKE IT TO PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, PENDING THE TYPES OF FEEDBACK AND CHANGES YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY LET YOU KNOW. 
          WERE WE MAPLES? YEAH, I WANT TO, I WANT TO SAY, UM, YEAH. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT JOB. 
          IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. 
          AND, AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR, FOR THE HARD WORK. 
          BUT, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'LL BE READY MONDAY  IF THERE'S NO FEEDBACK, AND WE CAN GET TO A PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING BY THEN, MAYBE . 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT WE, WE HAD THE, UH, THE BENEFIT OF SITTING INTO, UH, FRONT, FRONT ROW SEAT TO HOW THE POLICE IS, UH, GATHERING THEIR DATA, UH, CURRENTLY. 
          AND IS THERE ANYTHING, BASED ON WHAT YOU HEARD THAT THEY'RE COLLECTING IN THE DATA IN THE PRESENTATION, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU THOUGHT THIS MIGHT BE GOOD ALSO TO ADD TO THE OCPO DASHBOARD? THERE MAY NOT BE ANYTHING THAT CAME TO YOUR MIND ABOUT, YOU'RE A DATA SCIENTIST. 
          WE JUST HEARD FROM ONE, DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING YOU HEARD. 
          ARE, ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THE PRIOR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE USE OF FORCE? YES. 
          UM, SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE WANT TO INCLUDE, RIGHT? UH, THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT THE OFFICE IS DESIGNING. 
          OUR MAIN GOAL HERE IS TRANSPARENCY AND MAKING SURE WE'RE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT THE CITY IS DOING ABOUT IT. 
          IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING, WE CAN INCORPORATE THOSE IF WE HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE TO US. 
          UM, WE CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF, UM, POLICE DATA AVAILABLE TO US. 
          3 1 1 DATA. 
          OTHER SORTS OF COMPLAINTS AND COMPLIMENTS THAT WE GET THAT MAY OR MAY NOT NEED TO BE INCORPORATED THIS PRODUCT, UM, FOCUSED ON THE DATA THAT WE GET OUT OF THE SYSTEM, THE COMPLAINT SYSTEM. 
          AND SO WE DIDN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING ELSE IN IT, BUT THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC THAT MAY BE RELATED AND MAY BE PART OF THE STORY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          SO THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, THAT STRUCK YOU AND AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT, UH, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, HAVE INCLUDED WITHIN THIS DASHBOARD, ANY DATA THAT, THAT, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, PUT IN YOUR MIND BASED ON THE PRIOR PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING THAT COMES TO YOU, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE OFFICE, UH, SOON, BECAUSE, UH, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE HOPING TO GET THIS UP REALLY QUICK. 
          YES, MS. KING, UH, JUST YOU SAID THIS IS ABOUT COMPLAINTS ONLY. 
          SO DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENDATIONS DATA IN HERE? YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YES. 
          THE FOURTH PAGE IS ABOUT COMMENDATIONS. 
          IT DOES SHOW THAT THE COMPLIMENTS THAT THE OFFICERS RECEIVE. 
          THANKS. 
          IT'S IN LITTLE PRINT FOR MY, I APOLOGIZE. 
          THOSE MONITORS ARE A LITTLE SMALL. 
          IT'S, YEAH, IT'S ALL GOOD. 
          SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, THAT IT'S SEARCHABLE IS WONDERFUL. 
          I THINK COUNCIL DISTRICTS WILL APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO DIAL DOWN TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE AND WHEN THEIR CONSTITUENTS CALL. 
          SO, UM, I I'M VERY IMPRESSED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, MR. KIDNER, I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR STAFF, OUR PEOPLE. 
          THEY'RE DOING A TERRIFIC JOB, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LOSE SIGHT OF THAT. 
          WE HAVE MADE SO MUCH PROGRESS IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ALSO, UH, THERE IS A PRINTOUT OF THE, UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT LIVE, BUT ON THE TAB, THE THIRD TAB, YOU CAN TURN ONTO YOUR PACKETS. 
          YOU CAN SEE THE FOUR DIFFERENT DIVISIONS OF THE DASHBOARD IN LARGE PRINT, UH, FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO, AND THAT MIGHT EVEN, UH, TRIGGER SOME CREATIVITY. 
          BUT, UH, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR, YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION AND FOR THIS HARD WORK. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS GROUNDBREAKING. 
          WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. 
          THANK YOU. 
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SEEING, THERE'S, UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. 
          WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS ITEM NINE, UPDATES ON ENHANCEMENTS TO THE CPOB AND THE OCPO WEBSITE. 
          AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN HAD ASKED THAT, UH, THAT WE HAD, UH, PUT ON THE AGENDA JUST BECAUSE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS, THERE HADN'T BEEN MUCH PROGRESS AND IT SEEMED OUTDATED. 
          OUR, UM, OUR CONNECTION WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS REP REFLECTING THE QUALITY OF THE OFFICE AND THE BOARD. 
          AND, UH, I DO WANNA SAY THERE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE ADVANCEMENT ON THIS AS WELL. 
          IN FACT, IF YOU WERE TO GOOGLE CPOP DALLAS, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PAGE HAS BEEN UPDATED, THE BOARD PAGE HAS BEEN UPDATED. 
          IN FACT, YOUR PICTURE IS ON THERE. 
          SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE YOUR PICTURE, CHECK IT OUT AND TALK TO THE OFFICE, UH, AND SEND THEM SOMETHING NEW. 
          UH, BUT, UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME PROGRESS MADE AND THERE WILL BE CONTINUE TO BE PROGRESS MADE. 
          AND I THINK, IN FACT, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CPOB WEBSITE, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO UPLOAD A BIO. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT IS THE NEXT STEP WITHIN THE OFFICE. 
          WE'LL BE REACHING OUT TO US AND GETTING THAT, UM, READY FOR THE WEBSITE. 
          BUT THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AT THIS TIME, DIRECTOR MICHELLE ANDRE, TO SPEAK ABOUT, UM, THE OCPO WEBSITE. 
          SO I JUST WANNA ADD, UM, TO THE CHAIRMAN'S, UM, COMMENTS. 
          SO WHEN YOU GOOGLE, UM, COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, THE FIRST LINK THAT IS, UM, THE BOARD AND COMMISSION SECTION OF THE BOARD'S WEBSITE, THAT SECTION HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED. 
          I DID SEND AN EMAIL, UM, TO THEM, UM, LAST NIGHT TO UPDATE THAT, UM, TO MAKE SURE. 
          SO THE SECOND LINK IN THE GOOGLE SEARCH, UM, THAT HAS BEEN UPDATED WITH, UM, THE, THE BANNER UPDATING THE, THE SKYLINE AS WELL AS, UM, JUST HAVING A BRIEF STATEMENT ON WHAT THE BOARD DOES AND THEIR NAME, UM, AS WELL, THEY HAVE ADDED A DEMO, UM, DEMOGRAPHIC, UM, ON THE MEMBERSHIP BY, UM, GENDER, I BELIEVE, AND RACE, UM, DEMOGRAPHIC FOR THE BOARD. 
          AND THEN IN THE MEMBER SECTION OF THAT, THERE'S, UM, PHOTOS THAT ATTACH TO THE BOARD AND INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR APPOINTMENT AND, UM, HOW LONG THEIR APPOINTMENT ARE. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES. 
          SO THOSE, UM, TWO POSITIONS, UM, WHICH IS DISTRICT SEVEN AND UM, 11 DO NOT HAVE PHOTOS OR INFORMATION, BUT THE OTHER DISTRICTS DO. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          AND THEN THE MEETING SECTION, UM, THAT, UM, SECTION OF THE WEBSITE HAS BEEN UPDATED. 
          I AM WORKING WITH, UM, THE CITY ON UPDATING THE WEBSITE AND THE OFFICE WEBSITE. 
          UM, AND THEY TOLD ME THAT IT SHOULD BE FULLY DONE BY MID-FEBRUARY. 
          SO I WAS GONNA WAIT UNTIL THAT POINT TO KIND OF HAVE, LIKE, DO A LIVE PRESENTATION SHOWCASING WHAT THE WEBSITE LOOKS LIKE, UM, AND GET SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, UM, FOR PHASE TWO OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, SO I HAVE MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA THANK OUR POLICY ANALYSTS, 'CAUSE MYSELF AND HER WORKED ON THAT. 
          UM, DOING A LOT OF UPDATES. 
          AND THEN TODAY I DID SHOW THE CHAIRMAN SOME OF THE MARKUPS THAT WE HAD FOR THE OFFICE. 
          UM, WE REALLY, UM, USE, UM, EXAMPLES FROM FOR WORTH, UM, YOU KNOW, POLICE MONITORS, UM, WEBSITE. 
          AND AS WELL AS LIKE CHICAGO HAD SOME ACCOUNTABILITY WEBSITE THAT LOOKED REALLY GREAT AND, UM, PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK ON FOR US TO USE THAT AS A MODEL. 
          UM, I FELT LIKE WE HAD A BETTER SKYLINE THAN FOURTH WORTH, SO OUR WEBSITE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK BETTER, UM, . 
          SO, UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT, BUT IT DOES TAKE TIME. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I'M NOT THE PERSON THAT'S PHYSICALLY DOING THOSE CHANGES. 
          UM, WE KIND OF SEND THEM THE LANGUAGE, SEND THEM SOME EXAMPLES, AND THEN THEY SEND US DEVELOPMENTS MARKUPS. 
          UM, BUT THE INTENTION IS TO HAVE A PRESENTATION EITHER FEBRUARY OR MARCH, UM, TO THE BOARD ABOUT THOSE CHANGES. 
          BUT SINCE THE AGENDA WAS ALREADY LONG , I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE ADDING ANOTHER PRESENTATION, UM, TO THE BOARD AND WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THE BOARD'S WEBSITE WAS FULLY DONE, UM, BEFORE I PRESENTED THAT. 
          UM, SO PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PHOTOS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME, UM, AND WE CAN MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          YES, MR. FRIEDMAN, UH, BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14. 
          UM, THIS LOOKS GREAT. 
          VERY PLEASED WITH IT. 
          VERY HAPPY THIS HAS BEEN MONTHS OR YEARS IN THE MAKING. 
          UM, JUST, JUST ONE THING ON THE, THE MEMBER SECTION WITH THE PHOTOS AND EVERYTHING, WE NEED CONTACT INFORMATION. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THE RESIDENTS WANNA LOOK UP THEIR, UM, APPOINTEE ON THE BOARD TO REACH OUT. 
          THEY GOT AN EMAIL ADDRESS OR SOMETHING, AND I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY EASY FIX. 
          YEAH, THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE ALL HAVE DALLAS EMAILS AND NOW DALLAS LAPTOPS, SO 
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YEAH, IT'D BE EASY TO WOOHOO. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT YEAH, THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE OFFICE, UH, FOR THAT, UH, THE FORWARD MOMENTUM WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE WEBSITE AND, AND, UH, AND HOW WE ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, VIRTUALLY. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH ON THAT. 
          LOOK FORWARD TO THE FEBRUARY MEETING AS WELL. 
          WE'LL GET A PRESENTATION ON THE OCPO WEBSITE. 
          SEE, THERE'S NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. 
          I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 10. 
          AND THIS IS ANOTHER EXCITING AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE ARE INTRODUCING NEW OCPO STAFF. 
          SO IF WE COULD, I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, MR. WALTER GUERRERO AND MRS. ALMA PEREZ, IF YOU COULD COME DOWN, UH, TO, UH, THE MICROPHONE. 
          AND IF WE WOULD LOVE, UH, TO HEAR FROM YOU, JUST A BRIEF INTRODUCTION ABOUT WHO YOU ARE, UH, WHAT YOUR ROLE IS WITH THE OCPO. 
          AND, UH, IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, WE'LL GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. 
          BUT, UH, WANTED TO WELCOME YOU, UH, TO THE TEAM AND, UH, WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A LITTLE MORE ABOUT YOU AND WHAT YOU HOPE AND YOUR NEW ROLE. 
          SO, UH, MR. UM, MR. GUERRERO, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR FIRST. 
          UH, AND IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, UH, LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE OCPO. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR AND, UH, HONORABLE, UH, BOARD MEMBERS. 
          IT'S TRULY AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE FOR ME TO BE HERE TONIGHT AND JUST BE ABLE TO MEET YOU ALL. 
          AND, UH, MY NAME IS WALDI GUERRERO. 
          I AM ACTUALLY A COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST. 
          I, MY EXPERIENCE, UH, COMES BACK FROM SERVING IN ONE OF THE LARGEST COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA AS A MEDIA PRODUCTION SPECIALIST IN MY LATE TENURE WITH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, UH, WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER. 
          UH, MY BACKGROUND, UH, IN TERMS OF MY EDUCATION, I, I GRADUATED FROM TRINITY LAW SCHOOL WITH A MASTER'S IN LEGAL STUDIES, UH, GRADUATING SUMMA ADE. 
          AND I ALSO HAVE A DEGREE FROM PASADENA CITY COLLEGE AND ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE. 
          AND, UH, I'M EXCITED TO, UH, JUST EN ENCOMPASS THE VISION THAT THIS DEPARTMENT HAS IN TERMS OF BUILDING THE TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY BETWEEN, UH, THE COMMUNITY AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND JUST BEING A, A KEY, UH, A KEY FUNCTION, UM, IN, IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING, BRINGING AWARENESS TO THE, OF THE BOARD, TO THE PEOPLE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN, UH, PIECES THAT, UH, I'VE COME TO KNOW AND LEARN, UH, IN ADDITION, UH, SEVERAL PIECES OF EDUCATION FROM OUR PUBLIC, UH, IN TERMS OF HOW TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF FILING A COMPLAINT OR ALSO, UH, ACCOMMODATION, WHICH I, I BELIEVE IS SOMETHING VERY KEY TO HAVE A BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          AND SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMING HERE. 
          AND ALSO, UH, LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT AND MADE THE JOURNEY ALL THE WAY FROM CALIFORNIA HERE AND HAVE SUPPORTED ME. 
          AND, UH, SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, . 
          SO, MR. G**O, UH, YOU WERE IN CALIFORNIA AND, AND YOU'VE JUST MOVED TO DALLAS? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW, HOW'S IT BEEN SO FAR? IT'S BEEN EXCELLENT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          NO FIRES HERE. 
          NO FIRES. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          NO FIRE. 
          WE'RE NOT USUALLY THIS COLD. 
          THAT'S, YEAH, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, WE'D LOVE TO, UH, GIVE THE BOARD A CHANCE TO SAY ANYTHING, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, UH, DIRECTED TOWARDS, UH, MR. GUERRERO. 
          MR. GUERRERO, ARE YOU, UM, A PRACTICING ATTORNEY? UH, NO MA'AM. 
          I HAVE A MASTER'S IN LEGAL STUDIES. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          YES. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          WELL, WELCOME TO DALLAS. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          SO EXCITED TO BE HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, AND, AND YOUR WIFE AND DAUGHTER, ARE THEY HERE TONIGHT? UH, YES, SIR. 
          OH, UP THERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELCOME TO TEXAS. 
          HAPPY YOU'RE HERE. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND, UH, MS. PEREZ, I'D LOVE TO, UH, LEARN, LEARN BY YOU. 
          UH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU, YOUR BACKGROUND, YOUR BRIEF INTRODUCTION, AND ALSO HOW YOU ARE SERVING THE OCPO. 
          HELLO. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. 
          AND THANK YOU ALL. 
          UM, MY NAME IS ALMA PEREZ AND I ACTUALLY TRANSFERRED OVER FROM THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO MY LAST DAY THERE WAS TUESDAY, AND THEN I CAME HERE ON WEDNESDAY. 
          UM, I WAS WORKING IN THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AS, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, REPRESENTATIVE THERE WITH THE UNIDOS TEAM. 
          SO SPECIALIZING IN HISPANIC LATINO OUTREACH FOR THE SPANISH SPEAKERS, BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, THAT COMMUNITY, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY I BELONG TO. 
          UM, I WORKED THERE FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, BUT I DID 10 YEARS WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I WAS A CASEWORKER, UM, WHEN I CAME ON, UH, FOR THE YOUTH FIRST OFFENDER PROGRAM. 
          UM, I'M INVESTED IN MY CITY, UM, WASN'T BORN HERE, BUT, UH, PRETTY MUCH MY CHILDHOOD ON UP. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN A PART OF, OF THIS CITY THAT I LOVE. 
          AND, UM, SO I AM JUST 
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SO EXCITED TO BE HERE. 
          I'M EXCITED TO WORK, UH, WITH EVERYONE IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS, UM, JUST TO BRING AWARENESS TO THE OFFICE AND, UM, LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE, THAT WE EXIST, AND HOW THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, FILE A COMPLAINT OR HOW THEY CAN MAKE A CCOMMODATION TO AN OFFICER, BECAUSE I DO SEE A LOT OF GOOD WORK OUT THERE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW, UM, HAVING BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST A LOT OF, UH, CRIME WATCH MEETINGS. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UM, UM, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL THOSE? UM, THE ASSOCIATION MEETINGS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ALWAYS TAKE THOSE MOMENTS TO, UM, TALK ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, BUT I WISH THAT THEY KNEW THAT THIS IS HERE SO THAT THEY CAN COME AND SPEAK HERE ON A LARGER SCALE AND HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD. 
          SO I'M JUST SO EXCITED TO BE HERE AND, UM, READY TO START WORKING AND, UM, REACHING OUT TO YOU GUYS AND SEE HOW WE CAN PARTNER TOGETHER TO GET THE WORD OUT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. PEREZ. 
          WELCOME AGAIN, UH, TO THE OFFICE AND TO THE TEAM. 
          I WANNA OPEN UP FOR THE BOARD. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, UH, DIRECTED TOWARDS MS. PEREZ. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY WELCOME TO YOU BOTH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE LOOK, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH, UH, BOTH OF YOU GUYS. 
          MR. CHAIR, WELCOME. 
          AND WE'RE, WE ARE SO GLAD YOU ARE HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, MS. KING, I'M, I ECHO THEIR THANKS AND, AND THE WELCOME. 
          WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE SAFELY FROM CALIFORNIA. 
          AND OUR HEARTS ARE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS AND FAMILY BACK THERE, AND IT'S JUST DEVASTATING. 
          AND, AND I KNOW MANY PEOPLE IN DALLAS ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY CAN TO SEND HELP, UM, IN TERMS OF DOLLARS AND OTHER RESOURCES TO CALIFORNIA. 
          SO OUR HEARTS ARE WITH YOU. 
          UM, AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE SAFELY HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT COMMUNITY OUTREACH. 
          THAT'S MY JAM. 
          AND SO, UM, I, I SPOKE WITH MICHELLE ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY, AND I'M MAKING A LIST FOR MY COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT I WONDER IF YOU COULD BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD WANT FROM EACH OF US. 
          AND I DON'T WANNA USURP THE CHAIRMAN OF, OF OUTREACH, I'M JUST A COMMITTEE MEMBER. 
          UM, BUT WHAT COULD WE DO TO IDENTIFY, UH, PEOPLE, THOUGHT LEADERS, ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR DISTRICTS THAT CAN HELP US GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS COMMISSION AND THE PURPOSE THAT WE ALL SERVE? SO, JUST THAT'S MAYBE RHETORICAL RIGHT NOW. 
          YES, I AM THINKING ABOUT THAT SINCE DAY ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SEEING THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE BOARD, AGAIN, WELCOME. 
          AND WE'RE SO EXCITED YOU'RE HERE, AND I'M SURE WE'LL, UM, SEE, WE'LL SEE YOU EVERY MONTH. 
          SO I KNOW THIS IS, UH, IT'S NOT GOODBYE. 
          SEE YOU LATER. 
          YOU KNOW. 
          BUT THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE AND, UH, FOR YOUR, YOUR HARD WORK ALREADY. 
          THANK YOU KINDLY. 
          WE WILL NOW SHIFT GEARS AND MOVE TOWARDS, UH, AGENDA ITEM 11, WHICH IS REPORTS AND BRIEFINGS. 
          AND, UH, THE FIRST OF THESE WILL BE THE DIRECTOR REPORT. 
          AND SO THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE DIRECTOR OF THE OCPO, MICHELLE ANDRE. 
          SO I WANNA JUST GIVE A REALLY GOOD SHOUT OUT TO MY STAFF. 
          UM, I'M JUST REALLY HAPPY WITH THE HIRES AND BEING ALMOST FILLED. 
          UM, FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE POSITIONS, UM, HAVE BEEN FILLED, UM, AND RECORD TIME. 
          UM, WHEN I INITIALLY SPOKE TO HR, YOU KNOW, THEY DID TELL ME IT TAKES ABOUT NINE MONTHS TO FIELD . 
          I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I HAD THAT TIME . 
          SO, UM, BEING ABLE TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS WITHIN THREE MONTHS, UM, HAVE BEEN, I'VE BEEN REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT I, I DO REALLY WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO, YOU KNOW, POLICY ANALYST SIERRA, BECAUSE SHE REALLY HAS STEPPED UP AND HELPED. 
          UM, AND WE'VE DONE A LOT IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, UM, ESPECIALLY WORKING ON THE DASHBOARD AND AS WELL AS THE WEBSITE. 
          UM, EVERY SINGLE MEETING, UM, , SOMETHING HAPPENS AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY MAKING SURE THAT IT CONTINUES TO RUN AND NOT HAVING ANY TECHNICAL ISSUES. 
          AND, UM, I MET WITH SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ADDRESS TO NOT HAVE ANY TECHNICAL MEETING, YOU KNOW, ISSUES AT MEETINGS, AND REALLY TRY TO STREAMLINE THE PRESENTATIONS AND NOT HAVE THESE GAPS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IMPROVED. 
          AND ALSO, UM, IN TIMES THAT WE CAN TO REDUCE THE TIME, UM, THAT THE MEETINGS, LIKE HOW LONG THEY ARE. 
          UM, THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WAS, UM, SHARED, AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE THAT, EXCEPT FOR TONIGHT WAS  A MUCH LONGER MEETING. 
          BUT I THINK IT WAS NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD TODAY, AND IT'S BEEN A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I DO WANT TO SHARE, ONE OF THE LAST VACANT POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE OPENED, UM, IN THAT POSITION HAD 
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REMAINED O OPEN BECAUSE THE PERSON THAT HAD WAS SELECTED DECIDED THAT THE ROLE WASN'T THE RIGHT FIT FOR HER. 
          UM, WE REPOSTED THE POSITION IMMEDIATELY, UM, AND RECEIVED 117 APPLICATIONS. 
          I'VE REVIEWED THOSE APPLICATION AND SELECTED, UM, I BELIEVE, UM, NINE CANDIDATES FOR, UM, HR TO REVIEW, UM, TO DECIDE THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE QUALIFICATION, IF I CAN PROCEED WITH INTERVIEWS, UM, AND WITH NOW BEING FULLY STAFF, UM, I WON'T NEED TO HAVE LIKE EXTERNAL, UM, STAFF MEMBERS TO ASSIST ME WITH, UM, THOSE INTERVIEWS. 
          AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS INITIALLY A STRUGGLE, BEING REALLY SHORT STAFFED. 
          UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS, UM, HAVING PEOPLE HAD THE APPROPRIATE GRADE. 
          'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE AT THAT GRADE AND HIGHER, UM, TO BE INVOLVED IN THOSE INTERVIEWS. 
          UM, AND AT LEAST HAVE THREE PEOPLE. 
          UM, SO I, I'M SO GRATEFUL. 
          I WILL SAY, UM, TO 3 1 1, UM, DAISY FAST WHO HELPED ME. 
          UM, THE FORMER INTERIM ALSO HELPED ME AS WELL. 
          AND THEN, UM, MAJOR GREER ALSO ASSIST WITH, UM, ONE OF THE INTERVIEWS. 
          SO I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN REALLY APPRECIATIVE. 
          EVERYONE'S BEEN REALLY COLLABORATIVE AND HELPFUL, UM, IN MY JOURNEY HERE, BEING FOUR MONTHS IN DALLAS. 
          UM, UM, NOW THAT WE'RE ALMOST FULLY STAFFED, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN REALLY START DOING, WE'RE GONNA BE REACHING OUT TO THE CHAIRS OF THE PUBLIC, UM, COMMITTEE, PUBLIC SUB COMMITTEES TO THE BOARD, UM, TO SCHEDULE THOSE OCCURRING MEETINGS. 
          UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BE REACHING OUT TO OUTREACH. 
          UM, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK THERE. 
          SO TO SCHEDULE SOME MEETINGS FOR US TO MEET, UM, RULES . 
          'CAUSE I THINK THE, THE RULES AND PROCEDURES DO NEED SOME REVISIONS, SO WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH THAT. 
          AND THEN ALSO REACHING OUT TO CITY ATTORNEYS TO HELP WITH THOSE RULES. 
          UM, AND THEN BOARD TRAINING. 
          UM, WE DID MEET, UM, LAST, LAST YEAR. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA BE SCHEDULING SOME MEETINGS SO THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME ADDITIONAL TRAININGS, UM, NEEDS FOR THE BOARD. 
          UM, LET ME SEE. 
          AND THEN ONE OF I, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT, I THINK SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE HAD IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRAINING, UM, THAT WE DID FOR THE RETREAT WAS THE NEED, UM, TO KIND OF MOVE AWAY FROM USING PERSONAL EMAILS, UM, AND, UM, PERSONAL DEVICES FOR BOARD RELATED RELATED WORK. 
          AND SO I WORKED WITH ITS, UM, TO REALLY, UM, FIND A SOLUTION. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO, TO DONATE 15 LAPTOPS TO THE BOARD, UM, TO USE. 
          UM, AND WE CREATED, UM, ALL OF THE, THE EMAILS THAT WAS OUTSTANDING. 
          AND I THINK TONIGHT WE'VE ALSO MADE SURE THAT EVERYONE CAN SIGN IN AND ADDRESSED THOSE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH THOSE EMAILS. 
          SO THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN THAT THE BOARD HAD AS FAR AS EMAILS ISSUES. 
          AND I THINK WE HAVE SINCE ADDRESSED THAT SO THAT YOU CAN NOW BE ABLE TO VIEW, YOU KNOW, MATERIALS IN A SHAREPOINT, UM, IN PREPARATION FOR THESE MEETINGS, AND BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS LATER ON TODAY, MAKE DECISIONS ON SOME OF THESE INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUESTS. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE ALSO ACCOMMODATED WHERE, UM, TONIGHT ALLOWED FOR SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO COME IN IN ADVANCE TO REVIEW THOSE MATERIALS IF THEY HAD ISSUES WITH IT. 
          UM, UM, I WANNA ALSO, AS FAR AS THE ARREST AND ACTIVITY REPORT, JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UM, WE DID COLLABORATE WITH, UM, IAD MAJOR GREER, AS WELL AS THE DBD, UM, GIS TEAM, UM, TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL DATA FOR THE MONTHLY DBD ARREST REPORTS THAT SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD ON A MONTHLY BASIS. 
          UM, UH, SOME OF THE SUGGESTION THAT I MADE WAS REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL DATA, SUCH AS ADD IN A PIE GRAPH, DISPLAYING PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWN OF MISDEMEANOR VERSUS FELONIES, UM, BE BEHAVIOR HEALTH INCIDENTS BY TYPE. 
          AND THEN, UM, SUMMARY OF OFFENSE TRENDS OVER THE THREE YEARS WITH PERCENTAGE CHANGES AND THEN YEAR TO DATE AVERAGES. 
          UM, THESE WERE EXAMPLES THAT I'VE LOOKED FROM, THE OAKLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT, WEEKLY CRIME REPORT, UM, SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARREST DASHBOARD, AND THEN TUCSON POLICE, UM, ARREST DATA THAT I RECOMMENDED. 
          SOME, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO ENHANCE THAT REPORT, UM, SO THAT THE BOARD CAN HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DATA TO LOOK AT, UM, WHEN WE'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          UM, SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST RAW DATA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OVER TIME, ARE THESE GOING UP OR DOWN? AND THEN BY THE TYPE, SO NOW WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, EVEN MORE DATA TO INFORM THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          UM, I TOUCHED ALREADY ON SOME OF THAT, UM, THE WEBSITE PREVIOUSLY. 
          I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE FOLLOWING UP. 
          UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON, UM, ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE CAN ADD IN ADDITION TO THE CONTACT INFORMATION, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, UM, 
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SO THAT I CAN MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT'S DEVELOPED PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          UM, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY PHOTOS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN USING SOME STOCK PHOTOS, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY REALLY GOOD PHOTOS THAT WE CAN USE INSTEAD OF SOME STOCK PHOTOS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          UM, I WOULD LOVE TO USE PHOTOS THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, OF US IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS SEEN IT, UM, THAT WE STARTED TO DO, UM, TONIGHT WAS IN THE BEGINNING, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE MEETING TO START, WE HAVE A VIDEO THAT'S LOOPING, UM, THAT IS HIGHLIGHTING KIND OF, UM, WHAT WE DO, UM, LETTING THEM KNOW THE MEETING'S GONNA START SOON, BUT ALSO, UM, HAVE A QR CODE THAT GOES TO OUR WEBSITE, UM, HOW TO CAN THINK AN OFFICER, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON WHAT WE DO, WHAT OUR MISSION IS. 
          UM, THAT PREVIOUSLY WAS NOT DONE. 
          UM, IT IS NOT IN THE, THE SLIDES, BUT IT'S JUST A VIDEO THAT WE HAVE OF WHILE WE WAIT TO START THE MEETING. 
          AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY A RECOMMENDATION FROM, UM, MAJOR GREER. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE COLLABORATED, UM, FROM DVD ON THAT TRANSPARENCY AND JUST HAVING THAT, UM, TO, TO THE COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, MESSAGING. 
          UM, SO WE'RE CON CONTINUOUSLY LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE. 
          UM, JUST OUTREACH. 
          WE JUST MET WITH COMMUNICATIONS ON, UM, THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT CREATING SOME REELS AND SO SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS TO GET THE WORD OUT AND WHAT THE OFFICE DOES. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UM, WORKING ON DOING SOME INTER, UM, TV INTERVIEWS TO REALLY GET MY FACE OUT AND DO A MULTI-PHASE, UM, YOU KNOW, AWARENESS CAMPAIGN. 
          UM, AND WHEN THE DASHBOARD, WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE LOOKING AT DOING SOME PRESS RELEASE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY'S AWARE OF THAT. 
          UM, I HAVE HEARD, YOU KNOW, JUST IN DISCUSSION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE DON'T ALWAYS DO A GOOD JOB ABOUT AWARENESS OF NEW PROGRAMS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO REALLY HELP WITH THAT. 
          ONE OF THE, UM, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME, UH, A FLYER IN THE BACK THAT WE, UM, RECENTLY CREATED THAT HIGHLIGHTS THE OFFICE AS WELL AS, UM, OCPO AND THE, OUR BOARD MEETINGS. 
          UM, THOSE, UM, THIS FLYER HAD WAS CREATED SO THAT IT CAN BE POSTED IN ALL ELECTRONIC, UM, KIOSKS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF RECREATION, UM, AND THE ONE KIOSK THAT'S IN THE LIBRARY THAT'S ALSO POSTED THERE, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT SOME, YOU KNOW, COPIES, UM, PRINTED TO PICK UP TO DROP OFF IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS. 
          UM, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ALREADY CAME TO ME AND WAS LIKE, CAN YOU GET ME 50 COPIES SO I CAN DROP IT OFF THE LIBRARY? THAT'S IN MY DISTRICT. 
          SO IF YOU WANT SOME COPIES, I CAN DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SOME COPIES TO DROP OFF AS WELL. 
          UM, AND WE'RE GONNA BE REACHING OUT TO, UM, COUNCIL DISTRICT'S OFFICES TO, UM, SO THEY CAN SHARE THAT IN THEIR NEWSLETTERS AS ANOTHER WAY TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT WHAT WE DO IN OUR MEETINGS. 
          UM, SO NOW WITH THE COMMUNICATION ADVISOR, WE'RE GONNA BE SITTING DOWN AND DEVELOP A PLAN ON HOW TO GET PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT WE DO, HOW TO COME TO OUR MEETINGS, AND HOW TO JOIN. 
          UM, SO, UM, I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, JUST WE HAVE A LOT WE'VE BEEN DOING AS FAR AS COMMUNITY ACTIVITY. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANT TO THANK, UM, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO AND POLICY ANALYST SUPPORT AT THE DECEMBER 19TH, STATE OF DALLAS, STATE OF BLACK DALLAS, UM, FOR THE HOWARD UNIVERSITY, UM, SCHOOL OF LAW AUDIT PROJECT, UM, THAT WE WAS ATTENDED. 
          UM, I SPOKE ON, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT EVENT, UM, AND THEY CAME IN TO SUPPORT. 
          SO I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. 
          UM, I WANT TO ALSO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN INVITED TO A COUPLE THINGS THAT I'M GONNA BE PARTICIPATING THAT'S COMING UP. 
          SO I'VE BEEN INVITED AND I'M PARTICIPATING IN A SENIOR MEETING, UM, FOR DISTRICT THREE SCHEDULED ON JANUARY 21ST WITH THE GOAL OF STRENGTHENING TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE DISTRICT THREE IS ON THE RIGHT PATH. 
          UM, BOARD MEMBER CHANGA HIGGINS, UM, DISTRICT THREE WILL BE RECEIVING AN AWARD AT THE NEXT GENERATION ACTION NETWORK, 10 YEARS ANNIVERSARY GALA SCHEDULED FOR THIS THURSDAY AT SIX. 
          UM, A FEW OF THE STAFF MEMBERS AND MYSELF WILL BE IN ATTENDING THAT GALA IN SUPPORT. 
          UM, ALSO I WAS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE AS A SPEAKER FOR THE PANEL TITLED BLACK AND BLUE CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES AND POLICING. 
          UM, THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, UM, JANUARY 25TH AT TWO O'CLOCK. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA BE AT THE SOUTHWEST REGIONAL, UM, OF THE NATIONAL BLACK LAW STUDENTS ASSOCIATION. 
          UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE AT THE MARRIOTT. 
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UM, UM, AND LEMME SEE, AND I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE RECENTLY HAVE DONE WITH OUTREACH AND MATERIALS. 
          WE CREATED, CREATED KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, UM, COMPLAINTS, RIGHTS FLYER, UM, FLYER ON OCPO AND CBOB, INFORMATION BROCHURE, BANNERS, UM, UM, BRANDED BANNERS FOR OUTREACH. 
          UM, UPDATED THE COMPLAINT FORM ACCOMMODATION AND THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUEST FORM. 
          UM, WE HAVE DONE A LOT, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE SHORT STAFFED. 
          UM, SO WE LOOK TO DO EVEN MORE. 
          UM, JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE RIDE-ALONGS THAT WE HAVE DONE SO FAR. 
          THE POLICY ANALYST AND I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN, UM, SOME RIDE-ALONGS FOR THE THIRD WATCH, THE SOUTHEAST DIVISION, UM, SOUTHWEST. 
          AND THEN, UM, A FOURTH WATCH FOR NORTHWEST DIVISION. 
          UM, WE OWN, WE INTEND TO RESUME THE RIDE-ALONGS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DIVISIONS. 
          UM, WHEN IT WARMS UP, IT'S A BIT COLD. 
          UM, THAT LAST ONE, UM, IT WAS REALLY COLD , UM, AND THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF ACTIVITIES BECAUSE IT WAS SO COLD. 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, UM, WE INTEND TO DO CENTRAL DIVISION ONCE IT WARMS UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S JUST A WAY FOR ME TO GET TO KNOW DALLAS, GET TO KNOW THE DIVISIONS AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CULTURE. 
          AND IT HAS BEEN REALLY INFORMATIVE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID DO AS WELL PARTICIPATE IN A RIDE ALONG WITH HOMELESS SOLUTION, AND THAT WAS REALLY INSIGHTFUL FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT'S PROVIDED. 
          UM, WE OFTENTIMES PEOPLE STOP BY IN OUR OFFICE AND LOOKING FOR SERVICES, AND IT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE FOR US TO WORK, UM, TO JUST SEE THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AND THE DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WE CAN ALSO REFER. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO DO IS CREATE KIND OF LIKE COMMUNITY RESOURCE GUIDE, UM, THAT HIGHLIGHTS ALL THE COMMUNITY BASE, UM, DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE ALL HAVING OUR OWN RESOURCE GUIDE. 
          AND ONE, I THINK IT CAN BE CONFUSING FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, BUT I THINK PEOPLE WOULD WANNA HAVE ONE LIST  THAT THEY CAN REFER TO. 
          SO I'M GONNA BE, UM, WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO KIND OF CREATE ONE SO THAT WE HAVE ONE CENTRALIZED LIST THAT WE CAN SEND OUT TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY SO THEY KNOW THESE DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GONNA BE WORKING ON. 
          UM, DIRECTOR ANDRES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, I HAVE AN IMPORTANT POINT OF CLARIFICATION. 
          UM, YOU CAN AGREE WITH ME THAT OUR 30 DEGREES IS MUCH COLDER THAN ALBANY'S, LIKE 10 DEGREES, RIGHT? , LIKE, WE'RE NOT COMPLAINING. 
          IT IS JUST SUPER CRAZY COLD WHEN IT'S A LITTLE BIT COLD HERE, RIGHT? I'M GONNA TAKE THAT AS A YES. 
          OKAY. 
          NO COMMENT IS WHAT? NO, NO COMMENT. 
          NO COMMENT HERE FOR THE WEATHER. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, I'VE BEEN REALLY, UM, IT'S BEEN INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT I STILL NEEDED MY COATS AND ILS, UM, HERE . 
          UM, BUT YEAH, I'VE DONE A LOT. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, SO FAR I THINK IT'S, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT IDEAS OF WHAT WE CAN DO MORE, UM, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE HAVE STAFF, UM, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE WILL, WILL. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL CONTINUE TO ITERATE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW OF ANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN YOUR DISTRICTS, UM, THAT, UM, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, REQUESTED THAT FOR BOARD MEMBERS PREVIOUSLY THAT WE SHOULD PARTNER WITH. 
          I'M LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH SOME ORGANIZATIONS AND NOT-FOR-PROFITS THAT THE COMMUNITY TRUSTS SO THAT WE CAN TEACH THEM HOW TO FILE, FILL OUT A COMPLAINT, AND THEN ALSO LEGAL NOT-FOR-PROFITS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING I'M WORKING WITH WITH JENNY KING RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, RIGHT? DISTRICT 10, UM, ON IDENTIFYING THAT. 
          UM, SO I WANT TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT. 
          UM, SHE HAS, SHE'S THINKING ABOUT SOME NAMES OF SOME NOT-FOR-PROFITS AND ORGANIZATION THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH, UM, TO GET THE WORD OUT. 
          SO I'M LOOKING FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENT, THE OTHER DISTRICTS, TO LET ME KNOW WHAT ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD WE REACH OUT TO, WHO SHOULD WE KNOW, WHAT'S THE STAKEHOLDERS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING IN MIND YOUR DISTRICT WHEN WE'RE DOING THIS OUTREACH, RIGHT? UM, SO PLEASE LET US KNOW. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL HIGHLIGHT, AND OZZY'S NOT HERE IN CHONGA, SO I DON'T WANNA MISS IT. 
          WE ARE ACTUALLY, UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW I AM FINALIZING AN AGREEMENT, AN EDUCATIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH TEXAS A AND MM, UM, UNIVERSITY OF LAW, CIVIL RIGHTS CLINIC, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, UM, GET SOME RESEARCH STUDENTS, UM, TO ACTUALLY WORK ON SOME OF THE POLICY RESEARCH THAT, UM, WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE ALMOST DONE. 
          WE HAVE SOMETHING DRAFTED. 
          WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE FOR SIGNATURE, UM, SO WE CAN GET THAT EXECUTED AND THEY CAN START. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT 'CAUSE I KNOW, UM, SIERRA'S GONNA BE DOING AN UPDATE ON LEGISLATION. 
          I WANT TO KNOW, LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE ALSO, UM, IT'S A BIG DEAL AND WE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME OF THAT, THAT WORK DONE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTOR ANDRE. 
          AND LET'S, LET'S TAKE A MOMENT 
          [02:45:02]
JUST LIKE, SAY DISTRICT ONE, OZZIE. 
          I'M HERE. 
          OH, OH, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, BOARD MEMBER SMITH, UH, DIDN'T KNOW, UH, THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR PRESENCE AND, UH, LET US KNOW YOU'RE HERE. 
          WELCOME, WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I THINK AS A BOARD IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO PAUSE AND RECOGNIZE WHERE WE'VE COME AND WHERE WE ARE AND THE INCREDIBLE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITNESSED AS A BOARD IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. 
          IT'S, UH, IT'S AMAZING. 
          I THINK WE CAN ALL FEEL IT. 
          UH, WE CAN SENSE THE MOMENTUM, UH, AND, UH, THERE'S BEEN A, UH, THE ADDITION OF INCREDIBLE STAFF. 
          THERE'S BEEN ADVANCEMENT WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATION. 
          THE, EVERYTHING ACROSS THE BOARD, THERE'S BEEN AN IMPROVEMENT. 
          AND IT POINTS TO THE LEADERSHIP OF ONE WOMAN THAT'S THE DIRECTOR, AND, UH, THE IMPACT THAT SHE'S MADE IN HER SHORT TIME SO FAR HERE IN DALLAS. 
          UH, SHE'S MADE AN INCREDIBLE, UH, IMPACT. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, JUST, UH, SAY THANK YOU. 
          UH, I THINK THERE WAS MORE NOTES IN THERE, BUT I ASKED HER TO, WE GOTTA BE DONE BY 10. 
          SO , UH, NO CHAIRMAN. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, WE ALSO, UH, WE GOT BUSINESS CARDS THAT WASN'T ON THE NOTES, UH, BUT DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, YOU HAVE YOUR MIC ON. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, DIRECTOR, BESIDES BEING FANTASTIC, HIRING ALL THESE QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND THEN ESTABLISHING A COOPERATIVE, UM, PARTNERSHIP WITH MAJOR GREER IS JUST FANTASTIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          FANTASTIC TO WORK WITH YOU. 
          A LOT TO BE EXCITED ABOUT. 
          RIGHT NOW I'M ON THE BOARD AND I, I THINK WHERE ALL OF US, UH, ARE HONORED TO BE, UH, A PART OF THIS AND, UH, THE FUTURE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO OVERSIGHT AND COLLABORATION WE HAVE WITH, WITH DALLAS PD, UH, IN PARTICULAR, UH, MAJOR GREER. 
          AND, UH, SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU DIRECTOR FOR THAT REPORT. 
          AND, UM, WANNA MOVE NOW TO ITEM B, UH, OF THE POLICY ANALYST REPORT, UH, GIVEN BY OUR VERY OWN POLICY ANALYST, SIERRA OBA SUJI. 
          AND WE'VE ASKED HER TO KEEP AN EYE ON PARTICULAR LEGISLATION, UM, HOUSE BILLS AND SENATE BILLS. 
          AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HER TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON ALL OF THE LEGISLATION, SENATE BILL 2 8 1, SENATE BILL 2 8 0 HOUSE BILL 8 8 1. 
          UH, AND WHATEVER UPDATE YOU HAVE, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR IT. 
          SO THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          SENATE BILL 2 81, ALSO AUTHORED BY SENATOR MILES, SEEKS TO ENHANCE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR COMPLAINTS ALLEGING OFFICIAL OPPRESSION BY POLICE OFFICERS. 
          THE BILL SETS RETENTION TIMELINES, DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS AND EXCEPTIONS, PRIORITIZING PUBLIC ACCESS TO RECORDS AND SUPERSEDING CONFLICTING LAWS. 
          I'VE ALSO NOTED THE DEFINITION FOR OFFICIAL OPPRESSION AS WELL IN THE BILL ANALYSIS. 
          COMPLAINTS ALLEGING OFFICIAL OPPRESSION UNDER SECTION 39 0 3 OF PENAL CODE MUST BE RETAINED FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS AFTER THE OFFICER'S EMPLOYMENT ENDS AND SUMMARIZED INTO AN ABSTRACT FOR INDEFINITE RETENTION. 
          COMPLAINTS AND ABSTRACTS ARE CLA ARE CLASSIFIED AS PUBLIC INFORMATION WITH NO DISCRETIONARY EXCEPTIONS TO DISCLOSURE PERMITTED UNDER CHAPTER 5 52 OF GOVERNMENT CODE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, COMPLAINTS UTILIZED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATIONS OR PROSECUTIONS REMAIN FULLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          THESE PROVISIONS TAKE PRECEDENT OVER CONFLICTING LAWS AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS ESTABLISHED UNDER LOCAL CODE CHAPTERS 1 43 AND 1 74. 
          IF SENATE BILL 2 81 GOES INTO EFFECT, DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE PROMPTED TO ESTABLISH OR UPDATE COMPLAINT RETENTION SYSTEMS TO COMPLY WITH THE BILL'S REQUIREMENTS, THAT ALLEGATIONS OF OFFICIAL OPPRESSION BE RETAINED REGARDLESS OF THE COMPLAINTS' INVESTIGATIVE OUTCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME REGARDING THIS LEGISLATIVE UPDATE? SO ALL THREE OF THESE BILLS, UH, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE JUST SWORE IN OUR LEGISLATURE, SO THERE'S NOT MUCH GOING ON, AND ALL THREE OF THESE BILLS ARE, UM, PROPOSED BY DEMOCRATS. 
          SO THEY HAVE SORT OF AN OUTSIDE CHANCE. 
          BUT, UM, HAVE YOU SEEN OR HEARD ANY, UM, STIRRING ON THEM? ANYTHING GOING ON OR, OR ARE WE JUST TOO EARLY IN THE SESSION TO REALLY KNOW ANYTHING? IT IS EARLY, BUT I ALSO HAVE AN UPDATE. 
          UM, IT SHOULD BE THIS BLUE SHEET THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR BINDERS. 
          I ALSO HAVE AN UPDATE FOR THAT, AND THAT MAY HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          SO BILL FILING BEGAN ON NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024, AND 
          [02:50:01]
AS OF TODAY, LAWMAKERS HAVE FILED 2,613 BILLS. 
          THE 89TH TEXAS LEGISLATURE WILL CONVENE OR HAS CONVENED TODAY, JANUARY 14TH, 2025. 
          THE THREE BILLS WE ARE CURRENTLY TRACKING CAN BE FOUND HERE. 
          SO ANYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE HAS A LINK. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE THE DIGITAL COPY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CLICK ON IT. 
          THOUSANDS OF BILLS ARE FILED EACH SESSION, INCLUDING MANY AFFECTING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. 
          A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THESE BILLS WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD TO COMMITTEE. 
          THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT WILL PROVIDE UPDATES ON THE LEGISLATION THAT WILL IMPACT POLICE OVERSIGHT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, OF THOSE AS THOSE BILLS PROGRESS. 
          LAST THURSDAY, THE DIRECTOR AND I, WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH SENATOR MILES'S STAFF TO ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAD IN THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING SENATOR MILES'S STAFF. 
          HE INFORMED US THAT THESE TWO BILLS TWO 80 AND 2 81 ARE LEGACY BILLS. 
          UM, HE FILED IT IN 2011 AND HAS FILED IT EVERY YEAR SINCE THEN AFTER AN UNARMED TEEN WAS BRUTALLY BEATEN BY POLICE. 
          IT HAS NEVER MADE IT TO COMMITTEE, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT JUST TO TRACK. 
          AND I BELIEVE, UM, HB 8 81, WHICH IS THE NEXT UPDATE THAT I HAVE FOR YOU GUYS, UM, THAT BILL ACTUALLY DID MAKE IT TO COMMITTEE. 
          THE DIRECTOR WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH, UM, SOMEONE FROM SIAS OFFICE LAST WEEK, AND THEY PROVIDED AN UPDATE. 
          UM, THEY SAID THAT, YES, CONSIDERATIONS TO THIS BILL HAS, UM, AS SUCH AS INTENT, PAST PERFORMANCE, AND SEVERITY OF CONDUCT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CHIEF'S DECISION MAKING PROCESS. 
          THESE FACTORS WOULD CARRY WEIGHT IN THE FINAL DETERMINATION TO ENSURE FAIR AND CONSISTENT DECISIONS. 
          I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT THIS IS THE BILL ABOUT THE DISCIPLINARY MATRIX. 
          UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THEY DO AIM TO STANDARDIZE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS FOR OFFICERS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS DIRECTED TOWARDS THE POLICY ANALYST YASUI. 
          I ALSO WANNA ADD ONE MORE THING, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE WILL BE TRACKING FEDERAL BILLS AS WELL, SO IT'LL GO ON THE SHEET THAT YOU'LL BE RECEIVING EVERY BOARD MEETING. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY FURTHER INFORMATION REGARDING THE, THE BILLS? HAVE YOU COVERED ALL OF THEM? Y OKAY, GOOD. 
          YES. 
          UH, WE DO WANNA HEAR FROM YOU THOUGH ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS SENT TO, UH, MAJOR, MAJOR GREER, UH, FROM THE OCPO OFFICE. 
          UH, THE, THE BOARD, IF THEY SO CHOOSE, UH, CAN TURN TO THEIR FIFTH TAB ON THE BINDER. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO, UH, MAJOR GREER, UH, FROM THE, FROM SIERRA, UH, OBSU, FROM THE POLICY ANALYST. 
          UH, SO I WANNA GIVE YOU THE FLOOR TO TALK ABOUT THIS LETTER AND, UH, MAJOR GREER. 
          I DUNNO IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO, TO RESPOND YET, OR IF THIS IS THE TIME TO DO SO. 
          YES, UM, ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, DISCUSS IT AND, UH, HAVE CONVERSATION AND DID RESPOND. 
          OKAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          PERFECT. 
          UH, SIERRA, DO YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND, UH, KINDA EXPLAIN WHAT, WHAT THE, UH, REQUEST WAS AND, UM, IF GIVE THE CHANCE THE BOARD A CHANCE TO REMEMBER WHAT THAT REQUEST WAS? YES. 
          SO, UM, BACK IN DECEMBER WE NOTICED A TREND OF DUPLICATE COMPLAINTS, EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS FROM COMPLAINANTS WANTING AN UPDATE ON THEIR COMPLAINT. 
          SO WE WORKED WITH ID SERGEANT NANCY JONES AND MAJOR GREER TO FIND A SOLUTION TO REMEDY THAT. 
          AND SO WE PROVIDED LANGUAGE THAT WOULD, UM, GIVE AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE FOR REVIEWING AND PROCESSING COMPLAINTS AND A NOTIFICATION TO THE COMPLAINANT. 
          THE SUGGESTED LANGUAGE IN THE MEMO WAS APPROVED BY ID MAJOR GREER AND WILL BE INTEGRATED INTO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, WEBSITE, COMPLAINT FORM, AND ID INTAKE INVESTIGATIVE CHECKLIST LIST. 
          THAT IS GREAT NEWS. 
          GREAT NEWS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME REGARDING THIS AGENDA ITEM? THANK YOU, SIERRA. 
          THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. 
          UH, GREAT PROGRESS. 
          LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, THOSE UPDATES MONTHLY. 
          I KNOW THIS WILL BE BUSY TIME OF YEAR FOR YOU, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, LEARNING FROM WHAT YOU FIND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, 11 C, WHICH IS A SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR REPORT, UH, AND THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO INVITE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF, UH, FORWARD. 
          AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WELCOME INVESTIGATOR HUFF. 
          UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AS WELL. 
          AND, UH, HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS UNDER YOUR, UH, TAB. 
          UH, THE FIRST, UH, CRITICAL INCIDENT BRIEFING, JANUARY 7TH, 2025. 
          LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          UH, UH, BRIEF UPDATE TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE, UH, CRITICAL INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED, UH, EARLIER THIS MONTH. 
          THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. 
          BOARD MEMBERS. 
          UM, YES, WE HAD 
          [02:55:01]
OUR FIRST CRITICAL INCIDENT OF THE YEAR ON JANUARY 7TH, 2025. 
          AT APPROXIMATELY 3:15 PM THE DALLAS POLICE RECEIVED 6 9 1 1 CALLS ABOUT A PERSON IN THE 11,000 BLOCK OF JOAQUIN DRIVE, WHO WAS POINTING A HANDGUN AT PASSING VEHICLES, A PATROL UNIT CARRYING OFFICER CARNES AND OFFICER LOPEZ NAVARRO ARRIVED ON THE SCENE AT APPROXIMATELY 3:21 PM AND THEY OBSERVED THE INDIVIDUAL POINTING A GUN AT A VEHICLE. 
          THE OFFICERS ISSUED VERBAL COMMANDS, WHICH THE PERSON IGNORED. 
          OFFICER KARINS FIRED HIS PISTOL THREE TIMES, AND OFFICER LOPEZ NAVARRO FIRED HIS RIFLE ONCE STRIKING AN INDIVIDUAL WHO THEN FELL TO THE GROUND. 
          THE OFFICERS PROVIDED FIRST AID UNTIL RESCUE PERSONNEL ARRIVED. 
          THE INDIVIDUAL IDENTIFIED AS MICHAEL ALONZO, A 52-YEAR-OLD HISPANIC MALE, WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL WHERE HE WAS LISTED IN STABLE BUT CRITICAL CONDITION. 
          THE HANDGUN USED BY ALONSO WAS RECOVERED AT THE SCENE AND WAS IDENTIFIED AS A REPLICA FIREARM, SPECIFICALLY A CROSSMAN AIR PISTOL. 
          ALONSO HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH THREE COUNTS OF DEADLY CONDUCT AND FORTUNATELY NO OTHER INJURIES WERE REPORTED DURING THIS INCIDENT. 
          AND WE HAVE A SHORT VIDEO TO PLAY OF THE BODY-WORN CAMERA AND DASH CAM OF THE INCIDENT. 
          SHOULD WE BE HEARING SOUND ON THIS OR IS THERE NO SOUND? THERE IS SOUND, BUT IT'S VERY MUFFLED. 
          LOW. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          [03:00:29]
THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR. 
          UH, ANY, ANY OTHER WORDS ABOUT THIS VIDEO BEFORE WE, UH, TALK ABOUT IT AS A BOARD? NO, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THE VIDEO? I JUST HAVE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS, I MEAN, POLICE OFFICERS DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO. 
          DEFINITELY IN THAT INSTANCE, AND MAYBE MAJOR YOU CAN HELP ME OUT WITH THIS. 
          IS IT UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE OFFICERS IN THE CAR AS TO WHICH WEAPON THEY WANT TO USE WHEN THEY GET OUT? YES, SIR. 
          NOW, THE, UH, DEPENDING UPON THE OFFICER, THEY HAVE TO BE QUALIFIED TO CARRY WHATEVER WEAPON THAT THEY USE. 
          UM, SOME OFFICERS ARE QUALIFIED TO CARRY THE PATROL RIFLE, UM, OTHER OFFICERS ARE NOT. 
          NOW, IF YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED TO CARRY A RIFLE, THEN YOU, YOU, BY POLICY, YOU CANNOT USE THAT WEAPON. 
          BUT IF YOU ARE, IT'S CERTAINLY AT YOUR DISCRETION, UH, FOR YOUR ANSWER. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE BOARD? THAT D 10? I'M SORRY, WAS, DID THIS TAKE PLACE IN DISTRICT 10? IT WAS 11,000 BLOCK OF JOAQUIN DRIVE. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHICH DISTRICT THAT'S IN. 
          I THINK IT, I THINK IT'S DISTRICT 10. 
          I'M LOOKING AT A MAP. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. 
          UM, I SHOULD KNOW THAT. 
          SO, SORRY. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          IT'S THE NORTHEAST DIVISION, I BELIEVE. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN THAT'S MY DISTRICT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          INVESTIGATOR SING. 
          THERE'S, UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, WE'LL MOVE ON, UH, TO CONSIDERATION FOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUEST. 
          UH, AND SO, UH, AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT CASES THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, TALK ABOUT AS A BOARD. 
          AND IT IS UP TO US TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD LIKE AN IN AN, IN AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. 
          THANKFULLY, THE O-C-E-P-O HAS NOW A SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR, UH, GREG HUFF, WHO HAS, HAS, UH, EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND IN INVESTIGATION. 
          SO, UH, WE'LL REVIEW EACH OF THESE CASES AND IF, UH, THERE IS A MOTION, UH, IF THERE IS AN URGE FOR US TO INVESTIGATE THIS FURTHER AS A BOARD, I ASK THAT A BOARD MEMBER MAKES THAT MOTION. 
          AND IF IT'S SECONDED, UH, WE'LL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND WE'LL VOTE, UH, AS A BOARD, UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE, UH, WOULD LIKE FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF TO, UH, CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT, INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. 
          SO, WE'LL GO, UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, BEGIN WITH 11 C 21, WHICH IS EC 2024 DASH 1186. 
          ELIJAH HANNAH, UH, AND THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE INVESTIGATOR HUFF TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW. 
          UH, AND WE AS THE BOARD WILL DECIDE WHETHER WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN INVEST AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. 
          OKAY, ON OCTOBER 15TH, 2024, ELIJAH HANNAH FILED A COMPLAINT ALLEGING RACIAL PROFILING DURING TRAFFIC STOP CONDUCTED BY OFFICER BOSE JOLIE. 
          AND THAT TRAFFIC STOP WAS CONDUCTED ON, UM, OCTOBER 13TH, 2024. 
          HANNAH ASSERTED THAT HE WAS PULLED OVER DUE TO HIS RACE TREATED RUDELY AND ARRESTED UNLAWFULLY. 
          SHE REPORTED THAT THE OFFICER DID NOT PROVIDE A VALID REASON FOR THE STOP AND ACCUSED THE OFFICER OF VIOLATING HIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. 
          ACCORDING TO THE POLICE REPORT, ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2024, AT APPROXIMATELY 3:30 AM OFFICER BOSE JOLIE INITIATED A TRAFFIC STOP AFTER OBSERVING A CHEVROLET MAM, MALIBU CUT IN FRONT OF HIM WITHOUT SIGNALING, THE MALIBU CONTINUED AND MADE A WIDE RIGHT TURN WITHOUT SIGNALING. 
          OFFICER BOJO STOPPED THE VEHICLE AND CONTACTED THE DRIVER WHO HAS IDENTIFIED AS ELIJAH HANNAH. 
          DURING THE INITIAL CONTACT OFFICER BOJO LEE ASKED HANNAH IF HE HAD ANY WEAPONS, AND HANNAH PRODUCED A UNHOLSTERED HANDGUN, WHICH OFFICER BOLY TOOK POSSESSION OF. 
          OFFICER BOLY WROTE THAT HE OBSERVED HANNAH TO BE DISORIENTED, HAVE BLOODSHOT EYES, AND HAVE MOOD CHANGES. 
          HANNAH DENIED CONSUMING ANY ALCOHOL OR SMOKING DRUGS. 
          BASED ON HANNAH'S DRIVING BEHAVIOR AND PERSONAL BEHAVIOR, OFFICER BLI DECIDED TO CONDUCT A STANDARDIZED FIELD SOBRIETY TEST ON HANNAH. 
          HANNAH INITIALLY REFUSED THESE TESTS STATING THAT HE HAD NOT BEEN DRINKING. 
          [03:05:01]
HOWEVER, HE DID SU SUBMIT TO A HORIZONTAL GAZE NYSTAGMUS TEST. 
          OFFICER BLI WROTE IN HIS REPORT FROM THE TEST, THE QUOTE, NO CLUES WERE OBSERVED DURING THIS TEST, HANNAH REFUSED TO DO ANY OTHER TESTS, AND AGAIN, STATED THE REASON FOR HIS REFUSAL WAS THAT HE HAD NOT BEEN DRINKING ALCOHOL. 
          OFFICER B JOLIE PLACED HANNAH UNDER ARREST FOR DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED, DUE TO HIS BELIEF THAT HANNAH WAS INTOXICATED, HAD LOST THE NORMAL USE OF HIS MENTAL AND PHYSICAL FACILITIES. 
          DUE TO THE INTRODUCTION OF ALCOHOL, DRUGS, DANGEROUS DRUGS, CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES, A COMBINATION OF TWO OR MORE OF THOSE SUBSTANCES OR ANY OTHER SUBSTANCE, AND WAS UNABLE TO OPERATE A MOTOR VEHICLE SAFELY. 
          HANNAH WAS ALSO ARRESTED FOR UNLAWFULLY CARRYING A WEAPON WHILE INTOXICATED. 
          AFTER THE ARREST, HANNAH WAS FOUND TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 0.86 GRAMS OF MARIJUANA ON HIM, AND THEN HANNAH SUBMITTED TO A BLOOD TEST. 
          UM, I HAD LISTED SOME KEY TIME MARKS IN THE, UM, IN THE BODY-WORN CAMERA, BUT BASICALLY THE BODY-WORN CAMERA SHOWS ABOUT 15 MINUTES OF A TRAFFIC STOP INTERACTION WITH, UM, HANNAH AND OFFICER BOJO LEE UNTIL THE ARREST TAKES PLACE. 
          THE, UH, DALLAS POLICE INTERNAL AFFAIRS PRELIMINARY REVIEW, THEY HAD SENT A LETTER DATED NOVEMBER 5TH, 2024, IN WHICH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION STATED THAT AFTER REVIEW OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED AND REVIEW OF THE BODY-WORN CAMERA RECORDING, THEY CANNOT ESTABLISH A VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. 
          AND BASED ON THAT REVIEW, THEY HAVE DETERMINED THAT NO INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED. 
          THE OCPO PRELIMINARY REVIEW, ON NOVEMBER 19TH, 2024, HANNAH SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW TO THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT. 
          AFTER PRELIMINARY EXAMINATION, THE O-C-O-P-O CONCLUDED THAT THERE IS NO VIOLATION OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES REGARDING THE ALLEGATIONS OF RACIAL PROFILING AND DISCOURTESY. 
          HOWEVER, THE O-C-O-P-O NOTED THAT THE ALLEGATION CONCERNING THE IMPROPER OR FALSE ARREST DO NOT APPEAR TO BE INVESTIGATED, UM, ACCORDING TO THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS RECORDS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, INVESTIGATOR. 
          UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, WE'LL OPEN IT UP, UH, FOR QUESTIONS FOR A SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR. 
          UH, AND IF THERE'S A BOARD MEMBER THAT THAT FEELS, UH, CALLED TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, FOR US TO, UH, HAVE AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, UH, THAT'LL ALSO, UH, WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR THAT AS WELL. 
          BUT ANY QUESTIONS, UH, BEFORE THAT DIRECTED TOWARDS INVESTIGATOR, SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR HUFF OR, UH, MAJOR GREER? UM, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          UM, MR. HUFF OFF, WE OBSERVED THE VIDEO TOGETHER, AND I DID NOT SEE CLEARLY ANY SIGN OF INTOXICATION IN HIS SPEECH MANNERISM OR, AND THE EXTENDED TESTING THAT THE OFFICER DID. 
          UM, I, I JUST, I FOUND IT TO BE ALMOST COMICAL BECAUSE HE HELD THAT FLASHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND HE DID THE TEST AT LEAST THREE, FOUR TIMES. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT, ABOUT FIVE MINUTES? IT WAS ABOUT FOUR MINUTES ON THE VIDEO. 
          YOU KNOW, UH, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP MY EYES ON A FLASHLIGHT THAT LONG. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST WASN'T, IT DIDN'T SEEM REASONABLE. 
          JUST HE WAS JUST, IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE HIM FAIL THE TEST. 
          JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE, THIS IS ALLISON GRINDER, ALLEN DISTRICT NINE. 
          JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BACKGROUND. 
          UM, NO CLUES ON A NYSTAGMUS. 
          HE PASSED THE TEST. 
          SO, UM, AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT DALLAS COUNTY PICKED UP A DWI CASE FOR HIM. 
          SO AS, SO IF HIS COMPLAINT IS FALSE ARREST, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARILY GROUNDLESS. 
          I MEAN, IF HE'S BEHAVING WEIRDLY AND HAS NO NYSTAGMUS AND THE DA DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO PICK IT UP, UH, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL NEED A MOTION. 
          UH, IF WE, IF WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT, WE'LL NEED A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM THE BOARD TO DO SO? I MOVE THAT WE, UM, REQUEST MR. HUFF TO INVESTIGATE THIS FOR FALSE ARREST. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. 
          IT'S BEEN, WE HAVE MOTION. 
          IT'S BEEN SECONDED. 
          NOW THERE IS TIME FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE. 
          DO, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? 
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MR. WINTER? ALLEN, DO YOU WANNA CONTINUE OR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, TO MY MIND, THIS SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT ON THE BUBBLE. 
          UM, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE DA MAY NOT HAVE, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE DA DECIDED, UH, BUT MAY NOT HAVE FOUND THAT THERE WAS PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THE ARREST. 
          UM, I MEAN, I'M, I'M, I DON'T SEE ANY HARM IN HAVING AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, SO I'M GONNA VOTE FOR IT. 
          YES. 
          UH, BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN. 
          THANKS, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UH, BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14. 
          UH, I, I THINK TO ME WHAT THIS COMES DOWN TO IS THE BLOOD TEST. 
          UM, THEY TOOK HIM TO THE HOSPITAL TO GET BLOOD TESTED, UM, AND I THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE AS PART OF THE INVESTIGATION. 
          UM, IF THE BLOOD TEST COMES BACK POSITIVE AND HE WAS INTOXICATED, THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT POLICE OFFICER SAW SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T SEE, BECAUSE WHEN I WATCHED ALL 50 MINUTES OF THE VIDEO, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING, UH, THE WARRANT TO THE TREATMENT OF THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT WE SAW BY, UH, THAT SET OF POLICE OFFICERS, SPECIFICALLY, OFFICER OLI. 
          UM, THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE VIDEO THAT, THAT I COULD SEE THAT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS INTOXICATED. 
          NOW, OBVIOUSLY, WASHINGTON VIDEO, I CAN'T SMELL IT. 
          I CAN'T HEAR IT. 
          I DIDN'T SEE THE DASH CAM VIDEO OF THE WAY HE WAS DRIVING BEFORE HE WAS PULLED OVER. 
          UM, BUT, UH, THERE WERE, THERE WERE A LOT OF RED FLAGS IN THE VIDEO THAT WERE LITTLE. 
          UM, BUT TOGETHER THEY ADDED UP TO WHAT LOOKED TO ME LIKE, UH, A POLICE OFFICER WHO JUST WANTED TO ARREST THIS GUY. 
          UM, SPECIFICALLY WHEN THE GUY PRODUCED HIS FIREARM, UH, AND HANDED IT TO THE COP, THEN THE POLICE OFFICER WENT AROUND TELLING EVERYBODY, MAKING A HUGE DEAL ABOUT IT. 
          UH, THIS GUY POINTED A GUN AT HIM, AND, AND HE WAS, HE JUST, HE MADE A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT. 
          HE ASKED IF THE GUY HAD A GUN, THE GUY PRODUCED A GUN AND GAVE IT TO HIM. 
          NOW, WAS THE GUY, WAS THE SUSPECT, UM, AS SAFE, WAS HE HANDLING THE WEAPON AS SAFELY AS HE COULD HAVE? PROBABLY NOT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S NERVOUS. 
          HE'S JUST BEEN PULLED OVER AT SLATE OF NIGHT. 
          UH, THIS LOOKED LIKE MUCH A DO ABOUT NOTHING TO ME. 
          AND IT LOOKED LIKE A POLICE OFFICER WHO JUST WANTED TO ARREST THIS GUY AND GIVE HIM A HARD TIME. 
          UM, I DIDN'T LIKE IT. 
          IT HAD MY HEART RATE UP THE WHOLE TIME. 
          'CAUSE I WAS GETTING MADDER THE LONGER THIS WENT ON. 
          UM, AND I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD SAVE THIS OFFICER'S BEHAVIOR IN MY EYES IS IF HE SAW SOMETHING THAT I COULDN'T SEE ON THAT VIDEO. 
          AND THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS IN FACT, INTOXICATED. 
          AND WE WILL ONLY FIND THAT OUT THROUGH THE BLOOD TEST. 
          UM, SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL BE SUPPORTING AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. FRIEDMAN. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          IT'S BEEN SECONDED. 
          UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE IN THAT CASE FOR THIS, UH, PARTICULAR CASE? LET'S DO A ROLL. 
          LET'S DO A ROLL CALL. 
          VOTE. 
          UH, AND IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, UH, SAY YAY. 
          IF YOU'RE OPPOSED, UH, SAY NAY. 
          UM, DISTRICT ONE OZZIE SMITH. 
          YAY. 
          DISTRICT TWO, JONATHAN MAPLES. 
          YAY. 
          DISTRICT FOUR. 
          YAY. 
          YAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          DISTRICT SIX, DERRICK PEGRAM. 
          DISTRICT SIX, DERRICK PEGRAM. 
          YAY. 
          DISTRICT NINE. 
          ALLISON. 
          ALLISON TER ALLEN. 
          YAY. 
          DISTRICT 10. 
          JENNIFER KING. 
          YAY. 
          DISTRICT 12 D WADSWORTH. 
          YAY. 
          DISTRICT 13. 
          DAVID KITNER. 
          YES. 
          DISTRICT 14, BRANDON FRIEDMAN. 
          DISTRICT 14. 
          YES. 
          DISTRICT 15. 
          I ALSO VOTE. 
          YES. 
          THIS, UH, PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          UH, SO, UH, THE MOTION HAS BEEN CARRIED THAT THE OFFICE WILL NOW CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON THIS. 
          AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE RESULTS OF THE HARD WORK OF SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR. 
          HUFF, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE SECOND CASE THAT WE WILL DISCUSS AS A BOARD. 
          UM, AND THE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, INVESTIGATOR. 
          THE SECOND CASE IS ON RICARDO SUPR. 
          ON JUNE 12TH, 2024, RICARDO SUPR SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SUPR COMPLAINED THAT ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2022, WHILE AT A NIGHTCLUB IN DALLAS, POLICE RESPONDED TO AN INCIDENT AND ONLY TOOK REPORTS FROM THE OTHER PARTY. 
          SAPR ALLEGED THAT THE POLICE DID NOT TAKE A STATEMENT FROM HIS FRIEND. 
          SAPR STATED THERE WAS RACIAL BIAS AND SAIS WATCHED BODY-WORN CAMERA DURING HIS TRIAL 
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OVER THIS INCIDENT, AND SAW THAT THE OTHER PARTY GAVE INCONSISTENT STATEMENTS, SAPR ALSO STATED THAT THE OFFICER WROTE IN HIS REPORT THAT SAPR WAS PLACED IN HANDCUFFS TO PREVENT FURTHER VIOLENCE. 
          SAPR SAYS THIS WAS MISLEADING INFORMATION 'CAUSE HE WAS NON-VIOLENT. 
          WHEN OFFICERS ARRIVED, SAPR SUMMED UP HIS COMPLAINT BY STATING THAT DUE TO THE ACTIONS OF THE OFFICER, HE WAS UNJUSTLY TAKEN TO JAIL. 
          ACCORDING TO THE POLICE REPORT, ON SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2022, OFFICERS RESPONDED TO TWO DIFFERENT INCIDENTS AT CITIZENS NIGHTCLUB IN DALLAS. 
          THE FIRST INCIDENT WAS AT 1:53 AM WHEN OFFICER GUTIERREZ AND OFFICER WILLIAMS WERE FLAGGED DOWN BY RICARDO RIS. 
          RIS ADVISED HE WAS REFUSED SERVICE BY THE NIGHTCLUB. 
          THE OFFICERS EXPLAINED TO RIS THAT IT WAS A CIVIL MATTER AND THEY HAD NO JURISDICTION. 
          SO PRIEST ASKED IF A PHYSICAL ALTERCATION WOULD CHANGE THE CIVIL MATTER TO A CRIMINAL MATTER, AND HE WAS ADVISED IT WOULD. 
          AT 2:38 AM OFFICER GUTIERREZ AND OFFICER WILLIAMS WERE FLAGGED DOWN AGAIN AT THE NIGHTCLUB THIS TIME BY A VICTIM, CHASE GREEN, WHO TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS A BOUNCER AT THE NIGHTCLUB. 
          AND RIS HAD PUSHED HIS WAY PAST GREEN AND TRIED TO ATTACK FELLOW BOUNCER. 
          CARLOS MINCY MINCY ATTEMPTED TO RESTRAIN RIS. 
          HOWEVER, RIS WAS ABLE TO PUNCH GREEN ONE TIME IN THE FACE. 
          MINCY AND GREEN THEN HELD SUPR UNTIL THE POLICE ARRIVED. 
          SUPR WAS ARRESTED FOR ASSAULT WITH BODILY INJURY. 
          GREEN HAD SUSTAINED A SMALL LACERATION ON HIS TOP LIP. 
          UM, I NOTICED SOME, UM, BODY-WORN CAMERA TIMES, AND THE MAIN THING I NOTICED FROM THAT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE POLICE REPORT. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY ONLY NINE MINUTES AT FROM THE TIME THAT THEY WERE FLAGGED DOWN AND ASKED ABOUT THE CIVIL ISSUE. 
          AND THEN BETWEEN THAT AND THE TIME THAT THE ASSAULT OCCURRED. 
          SO THE POLICE REPORT MAKES IT SOUND LIKE IT WAS A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. 
          IT WAS ACTUALLY NINE MINUTES BETWEEN THOSE TWO CONTACTS, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS, UH, PRELIMINARY REVIEW. 
          THEY SENT A LETTER DATED ON JUNE 21ST, 2024, AND STATED THAT REVIEW OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, UM, BY YOU, ALONG WITH THE FOOTAGE CAPTURED ON THE OFFICER'S BODY-WORN CAMERA, UH, WAS CONDUCTED. 
          AND UPON COMPLETION OF THAT REVIEW, WERE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH A VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. 
          AND BASED ON THE REVIEW, WE HAVE DETERMINED NO INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED. 
          AND THE OCPO PRELIMINARY REVIEW ON NOVEMBER 19TH, 2024, RICARDO RIS REQUESTED AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW BY THE OFFICES OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, UH, FOLLOWING A PRELIMINARY VIEW OF ALL AVAILABLE EVIDENCE, INCLUDING THE BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE. 
          THE OCPO FOUND NO VIOLATIONS OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES OR PROCEDURES, AND IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT RIS FILED THIS COMPLAINT OVER TWO YEARS AFTER THE INCIDENT, SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEEDING THE 60 DAY FILING PERIOD REQUIRED FOR NON-CRIMINAL VIOLATIONS WITHOUT DEMONSTRATING ANY GOOD CAUSE FOR THE DELAY. 
          THANK YOU INVESTIGATOR FOR THAT REPORT. 
          UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION, UH, TO, UH, TAKE THIS PARTICULAR CASE TO AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FROM O-O-C-P-O? OR ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED, UH, TO, UH, THE PRESENTER OR MAJOR GREER FOR CLARIFICATION? INVESTIGATOR, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE HE, MR. SUPR BEAT THIS AT A JURY TRIAL IN MARCH OF 2024. 
          WHEN DID HE ACTUALLY FILE THIS COMPLAINT? OH, 1119. 
          UH, HE FILED IT IN JUNE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          JUNE OF 24. 
          JUNE OF 24, 11 19 WAS WITH, UH, OUR OFFICE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH HIM? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY HE WAITED SO LONG? I DO NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, UM, WATCHING THE VIDEO, WHEN THE POLICE ASKED HIM WHAT HAPPENED, HE SAID HE DIDN'T REMEMBER. 
          AND WHEN THEY ASKED HIS FRIEND WHAT HAPPENED, HE SAID HE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING , AND HE WENT INTO THE PLACE AND STARTED BEATING UP ON THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY REFUSED HIM SERVICE. 
          THAT'S NOT, AND THE POLICE ARRESTED HIM BECAUSE THE OTHER PEOPLE COMPLAINED. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T ANY FALSE ARREST. 
          THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT POLICE DID WRONG. 
          I MOVE THAT WE SU THAT IT'S SUSTAINED YOU MOVE THAT WE DON'T DO AN INVESTIGATION. 
          I'LL SECOND THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE FOR THAT, BUT, SO, UH, THERE'S A MOTION TO NOT CONDUCT AN 
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INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. 
          IS THAT OKAY, ATTORNEY? YEAH, SURE. 
          SO, UH, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO NOT DO AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, AND IT HAS BEEN SECONDED. 
          UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. 
          UH, I THINK WE COULD, UH, LET'S DO, LET'S DO A, A, A, A VOICE VOTE ON THIS ONE. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION TO NOT CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, SAY YAY. 
          YAY. 
          ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. 
          UH, THERE WILL BE NO REQUEST FROM THE BOARD FOR THE OFFICE TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON THIS CASE. 
          WE HAVE ONE MORE, UH, CASE TO REVIEW. 
          INVESTIGATOR, UH, THE FLOOR IS NOW YOURS TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE COMPLAINANT, HALEY COLBERT. 
          YES. 
          ON JULY 29TH, 2024 X ZANDRIA COLBERT FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS ANDREA ASSERTED THAT ON JULY 26TH, 2024, SHE WAS WITH HER DAUGHTER HALEY COLBERT AT THE LEASING OFFICE FOR HALEY'S APARTMENT COMPLEX IN DESOTA, TEXAS. 
          SHE WAS ATTEMPTING TO NEGOTIATE A LEASE TERMINATION DUE TO ONGOING ISSUES WITH A NEIGHBOR, A UNIFORMED DALLAS POLICE OFFICER WHO WAS LATER IDENTIFIED AS SERGEANT RATTLER WALKED IN AND STOOD NEXT TO THEM. 
          THIS SCARED HAILEY SINCE SHE DID NOT KNOW SERGEANT RATTLER. 
          ANDREA SAW THAT SERGEANT RATTLER HAD NO NAME BADGE ON, BUT WAS CARRYING A GUN. 
          ANDREA WAS UNSURE IF SERGEANT RATTLER WAS A POLICE OFFICER, SO SHE CALLED DESOTA POLICE TO RESPOND TO CONFIRM HIS IDENTITY. 
          UM, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION ON THIS, AND, AND ACCORDING TO THEIR INVESTIGATION, SERGEANT RATNER'S GIRLFRIEND AND HAILEY COLBERT WERE NEIGHBORS IN THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX AND HAD BEEN HAVING ONGOING ISSUES. 
          HAILEY COLBERT, ZANDRIA COLBERT, SERGEANT RATTLER, AND HIS GIRLFRIEND, WHO IS ANNETTE LEE, WERE ALL IN THE APARTMENT LEASING OFFICE AT THE SAME TIME. 
          DURING THIS TIME, COLBERT FELT INTIMIDATED BY SERGEANT RATTLER APPEARANCE WITH HIM BEING ARMED, AND THUS CALLED THE DESOTO POLICE. 
          BASED ON THE EVIDENCE, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT SERGEANT RATTLER WENT INTO HIS APARTMENT LEASING OFFICE TO INQUIRE ABOUT SWITCHING APARTMENTS. 
          SERGEANT RATTLER WAS CALM AND RESPECTFUL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE INCIDENT, AND DID NOT INTIMIDATE, ESCALATE, OR CAUSE A DISTURBANCE RESULTING IN POLICE RESPONSE. 
          INTERNAL AFFAIRS LABELED THE CASE AS UNFOUNDED. 
          HOWEVER, DURING THE COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT SERGEANT RATTLER WORE AN INCOMPLETE UNIFORM WHILE CONDUCTING PERSONAL BUSINESS OFF DUTY. 
          AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND OF SERGEANT RATTLER REVIEW THIS ISSUE AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION. 
          HE SENT A LETTER TO ANDREA COLBERT DATED NOVEMBER 22ND, 2024. 
          THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION STATED THAT AFTER A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION WAS ESTABLISHED, THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL RULES, THERE'LL BE ADDRESSED BY THE EMPLOYEE'S CHAIN OF COMMAND. 
          ON 12 19 20 24, HAILEY COLBERT SUBMITTED AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUEST TO THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT. 
          UM, HAILEY ALSO SUBMITTED A VIDEO THAT SHE HAD TAKEN DURING THE INCIDENT WITH HER PHONE. 
          HAILEY HAD SAID THAT SHE DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE LETTER MEANT THAT SHE HAD RECEIVED FROM INTERNAL AFFAIRS, UM, 'CAUSE IT STATED THAT THE OFFICER DID VIOLATE DEPARTMENTAL RULES AND WOULD BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER. 
          DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, SERGEANT REGGIE LUSTER, CALLED HAILEY TO EXPLAIN THE WORDING IN THAT LETTER. 
          AFTERWARDS, I WAS ABLE TO CALL HAILEY, UM, TO, TO SEE IF SHE WAS SATISFIED FROM THE EXPLANATION, AND SHE WAS FINE ABOUT THE UNIFORM ISSUE, BUT WAS STILL DISSATISFIED WITH THE REQUEST FOR FURTHER EXAMINATION OF THE INCIDENT BASED ON HIM BEING A BULLY AND INTIMIDATING AT THE SCENE. 
          UM, I REVIEWED THE VIDEO. 
          IT'S ABOUT FIVE MINUTES, AND, UM, IT IS THERE INSIDE A, A LEASING OFFICE FOR APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          AND SERGEANT RATTLER IS THERE. 
          IT'S MOSTLY A UNIFORM. 
          IF YOU A LAY PERSON WOULD SEE HIM, YOU'D, YOU'D SAY HE'S IN A, YOU KNOW, A DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT UNIFORM. 
          UM, AND HE IS DISCUSSING WITH THE MANAGEMENT THERE ABOUT SWITCHING APARTMENTS. 
          UM, I DON'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS UNUSUAL. 
          NO RAISING OF THE BOYS, NO YELLING. 
          UM, HE WASN'T USING, HE WASN'T SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT HIS POSITION AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO USE THAT TO INFLUENCE THE SITUATION OR ANYTHING THAT I SAW. 
          SO, DURING A PRELIMINARY VIEW OF THE CASE, THE OCPO WAS UNABLE TO ESTABLISH 
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A VIOLATION OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AS IT PERTAINS TO BOWLING AND INTIMIDATION. 
          THE OCPO DOES AGREE WITH INTERNAL AFFAIRS FINDINGS THAT SERGEANT RATTLER WAS WEARING AN IMPROPER UNIFORM AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT. 
          AND RECOMMENDATION THAT THE ISSUE BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE CHAIN OF COMMAND THINKING INVESTIGATOR. 
          WANNA OPEN IT UP AT RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE BOARD, UH, TO INVESTIGATOR AND ALSO, UH, POTENTIALLY, UH, MAJOR GREER. 
          UM, AND, UH, JUST, UH, SO WE CAN BE, UM, IN AGREEMENT WITH THE ROBERTS RULES. 
          IF YOU ARE TO SHARE YOUR OWN THOUGHTS OR FEELINGS ABOUT THE PARTICULAR CASE. 
          UH, THEN WE DO NEED A MOTION SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SET THAT MOTION. 
          BUT OF COURSE, QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE DONE TO GIVE YOU CLAR CLARITY. 
          CAN I, UH, MAJOR GREER IS THE UNIFORM VIOLATION. 
          NO NAME TAG. 
          NO, SIR. 
          IT WAS A, HE WAS WEARING, WE HAVE A, WHAT'S CALLED OUTER BALLISTIC VEST THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THE SHIRT THAT HE HAD ON, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THAT OUTER BALLISTIC VEST ON. 
          BUT FOR THE, THE LAY PERSON, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, UM, HAD SOME TYPE OF INSIGHT TO KNOW THAT YOU NEEDED TO HAVE THAT OUTER VEST ON. 
          BUT IT'S A DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT UNIFORM. 
          HAS A BADGE. 
          A BADGE, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE PIECE THAT HE WAS MISSING. 
          AND, AND WHAT, WHAT WAS THE RESOLUTION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT? WAS HE GIVEN A LETTER OF REPRIMAND OR COUNSELING? IT WAS A, NOT A LETTER OF REPRIMAND, BUT IT WAS WHAT WE CALL SUMMARY DISCIPLINE. 
          I'M SORRY, WHAT WE CALL SUMMARY DISCIPLINE, WHICH IS A LOW LEVEL OF DISCIPLINE, BUT HE WAS DISCIPLINED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE DEPARTMENT HAS THIS ONE IN HAND. 
          I MOVE THAT WE DON'T INVESTIGATE. 
          SECOND, THAT THERE'S A MOTION TO NOT INVESTIGATE. 
          THIS'S BEEN SECONDED. 
          UH, WANNA LEAVE ROOM FOR ANY DISCUSSION? UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH. 
          WILLIAM FREEMAN. 
          YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO INVESTIGATE THIS. 
          UM, I, I DON'T LIKE THE, THE PRESUMPTION, UM, THAT HE DIDN'T ESCALATE OR INTIMIDATE. 
          UM, HE WAS OFF DUTY. 
          HE WAS NOT IN UNIFORM. 
          AND YET HE SHOWS UP TO THIS CONVERSATION CARRYING A PIECE. 
          UM, HE WAS IN UNIFORM. 
          HE JUST, HE MAY HAVE ON HIS VEST, HE WAS OFF DUTY. 
          WHY WAS HE, WHY WAS HE IN UNIFORM? BECAUSE HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO WORK. 
          HE SAID THAT IN THE VIDEO. 
          IN THE VIDEO, HE IS ON HIS WAY TO WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I, I MISSED HIM SAYING THAT HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO WORK. 
          UM,  THAT CHANGE, THAT CHANGES IT A A LITTLE FOR ME. 
          I MAY WANNA GIVE THIS SOME MORE THOUGHT, BUT I'M NOT GONNA HOLD UP EVERYBODY. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DROP IT. 
          IF, IF, IF HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO WORK, MY, MY VIEWING OF THAT WAS THAT HE HAD SHOWN UP IN, IN HALF A UNIFORM, UM, WHILE HE WAS OFF DUTY, JUST TO, TO SORT OF ESCALATE THE SITUATION. 
          BUT I WILL LEAVE IT THERE. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR THE OFFICE TO NOT CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN SECONDED. 
          WE WILL DO A, A ROLL CALL, UH, VOTE ON THIS TO GET EVERYONE'S, UH, THOUGHTS ON THIS. 
          AND THE, THE HIGHEST, UH, THE MAJORITY WILL CARRY THE VOTE. 
          UH, SO IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF NO INDEPENDENT, NO INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, YES. 
          IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF, UH, AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION TO, UH, WE MAY MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO CONDUCT THE INVESTIGATION, UH, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. 
          VOTE AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, DISTRICT ONE, NO INVESTIGATION. 
          DISTRICT TWO, NO INVESTIGATION. 
          DISTRICT FOUR, NO INVESTIGATION. 
          DISTRICT SIX, NO INVESTIGATION. 
          DISTRICT NINE, NO INVESTIGATION. 
          DISTRICT 10, NO INVESTIGATION. 
          DISTRICT 12. 
          NO, NO INVESTIGATION. 
          DISTRICT 13, NO INVESTIGATION. 
          DISTRICT 14, NO. 
          DISTRICT 15, NO AS WELL. 
          UH, THAT, SO THAT MOTION PASSES. 
          UH, THE OFFICE WILL NOT BE CONDUCTING AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON, UH, THIS PARTICULAR CASE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR. 
          AND I KNOW, UH, FROM TALKING TO YOU EARLIER, UH, THERE'S A BACKLOG OF CASES. 
          SO WE'LL BE HEARING FROM YOU A LOT, SEEING, SEEING YOU A LOT, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO, UM, HEARING FROM YOU. 
          AND ALSO, UH, THE INVESTIGATOR, UH, 
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IS TALKING TO HIM, AND HE WAS OPEN TO HOW THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION. 
          UH, AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE FOR HIM TO FOCUS ON, WHEN, UH, WE HAVE TWO LEVELS OF REPORTS. 
          ONE IS THE INITIAL WHETHER, AND WE DECIDE WHETHER WE WANNA CONDUCT A DEEPER DIVE IN INVESTIGATION. 
          AND THE SECOND, OF COURSE, IS THE INVESTIGATION. 
          UM, AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR YOU'D LOVE FOR HIM TO, UH, TO INCLUDE OR, OR THAT HE'S INCLUDING THAT YOU THINK IS UNNECESSARY. 
          I KNOW SPEAKING WITH HIM, HE'S OPEN TO, TO THAT DISCUSSION. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU, UH, NEXT MONTH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO CASES IN REVIEW, AND, UH, THERE'S NO CASES TO UPDATE. 
          SO WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM D, WHICH IS THE CHAIRMAN REPORT. 
          UM, NOT MUCH, UH, TO SPEAK ABOUT AT THIS TIME. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAYBE MOVE TO THE ITEM E JUST TO A REMINDER TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE ATTENDANCE. 
          UM, AND THIS IS REMINDED TO US, UH, THIS PAST MONTH BECAUSE, UH, THE CITY SECRETARY REQUESTED OUR ATTENDANCE REPORT. 
          AND, UM, THEY, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THE PAST YEAR WHO HAD MISSED MORE THAN TWO MEETINGS, UM, RECEIVED A LETTER THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER, UH, ON THE BOARD. 
          UH, AND, UH, AND SO THERE WAS SOME NEED FOR CLARIFICATION ON SOME OF THE MEETINGS THAT WERE, ONE, ONE WAS CANCELED 'CAUSE OF A TECHNICAL ISSUE. 
          AND, UH, THERE WAS OTHER TIMES WHERE THEY WERE ONLINE. 
          AND, BUT I JUST WANNA REMIND THE BOARD THAT, UH, YOUR ATTENDANCE IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND, UH, THE SECRETARY IS, IS, IS, CARES ABOUT YOU BEING HERE. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT, UH, TWO IS THE MAXIMUM MEETINGS. 
          UH, THAT THREE, IT'S THREE, SORRY. 
          THREE. 
          SO THREE. 
          THREE. 
          YEAH. 
          THREE. 
          SO THREE ARE THE MAXIMUM MEETINGS, UH, THAT, UH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MISS. 
          UH, AND I LIKE EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD. 
          UH, I THINK WE HAD A GREAT TEAM. 
          SO I, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF EVERYBODY BEING HERE. 
          SO, UH, AND NOT GETTING, UM, THE, THE LETTER FROM THE SECRETARY'S OFFICE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO NOBODY GETS KICKED OFF ON ACCIDENT. 
          WE DO HAVE ONE MONTH THAT'S IN RECESS, SO WE ONLY DO 11 MEETINGS A YEAR. 
          SO IT WOULD BE, SO I, I HAD TO SUBMIT 13 MONTH YES. 
          MEETING DATES. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          IS THERE, IS, IS THERE AN EXCEPTION FOR EXCUSED ABSENCES IF SOMEONE HAD AN ILLNESS? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          NO. 
          BUT YOU CAN APPEAR, UM, VIRTUALLY THAT IS, YEAH. 
          REALLY NICE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          GIVE JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS. 
          UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE NOW, UH, TO, UM, THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE ANNUAL REPORT. 
          AND, UH, THIS IS, UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THE PACKET, IN THE PACKET, IT'S ON TAB SIX. 
          AND THIS IS AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT IS REQUIRED, UH, FROM THE ORDINANCE THAT WE SUBMIT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND, UH, THE OFFICE HAS DONE A LOT OF HARD WORK IN COLLECTING THIS DATA. 
          UH, TODAY WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS VIA VOTE. 
          THERE MAY BE SOME AMENDMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. 
          UH, THOSE THAT HAVE READ AHEAD AND, AND, UH, FOUND SOME SPOTS THAT NEED TO CHANGE. 
          SO IF YOU COULD, UH, IF YOU COULD, UH, LIST THOSE FOR US, AND THEN WE'LL NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ANNUAL REPORT WITH THE LISTED AMENDMENTS. 
          I, I'D LIKE, I, I KNOW WE'VE GOT THIS A COUPLE OF TIMES, I'VE MADE SOME COMMENTS, I KNOW OTHERS HAVE MADE COMMENTS. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IT IN THE FORM THAT IS PART OF THE AGENDA, SUBJECT TO MINOR TYPOS AND, UH, SPELLING CORRECTIONS, THINGS OF THAT SORT, NON-SUBSTANTIVE MATTERS. 
          BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT AS IS AT THIS POINT THAT'S BEEN SECONDED BY DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UH, WITH THE, UH, THE TYPOS AND ALL THAT, THE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UM, WE WILL NOW MOVE, UH, TO A, UH, STANDING COMMITTEE REPORTS. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, IF NO UPDATES, YOU CAN JUST SAY NO UPDATE, AND WE CAN MOVE ON. 
          UH, BUT I'D LIKE TO BEGIN, UH, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS IS NOT HERE, BUT, BUT, UH, I WAS AT THIS MEETING AND, UH, THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE IS CONTINUING TO MEET, AND THEY ARE COMING UP WITH A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGES, TO SUGGESTED CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          THERE'S BEEN, UM, A LOT LISTED, AND NOW THAT THE GROUP IS ANALYZING WHICH ONES ARE OF TOP PRIORITY, UH, 'CAUSE WE CAN'T BRING 'EM ALL, OR WE CAN BRING 'EM ALL, BUT WE WOULD, WE'D 
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LIKE TO, UH, FOCUS ON A FEW, UM, AS OUR TOP DESIRES. 
          SO I KNOW, UH, THIS IS COMING UP. 
          UH, THESE, THIS GROUP IS MEETING CONTINUALLY, UH, DURING, WHILE WE'RE NOT, UH, DURING, IN BETWEEN THESE MEETINGS. 
          SO I LOOK FORWARD TO PROBABLY A MORE UP-TO-DATE, UH, UPDATE, UH, NEXT MEETING IN FEBRUARY. 
          UH, RULES COMMITTEE, UH, BOARD MEMBER ALLISON, RENT, OR ALLEN, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE AT ALL? THE RULES COMMITTEE IS IN THE CONCEPTS OF A PLAN STAGE AT THE MOMENT. 
          STAY TUNED. 
          NO UPDATE SPECIFICALLY TODAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          UH, BOARD TRAINING, UH, CHAIRWOMAN, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. 
          ANY UPDATES ON THE BOARD TRAINING COMMITTEE? NO UPDATES. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, CHAIRMAN MAPLES OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          ANY UPDATES, UH, ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT? DETERMINE, UPDATE, DETERMINE, UPDATE, DETERMINE? NO. 
          WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY UPDATE? OH, TO, TO DEFINE UPDATE . 
          LET'S GO HOME. 
          UH, YEAH, JUST, UH, ANY, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO, UH, ADDRESS TO THE BOARD REGARDING, I MEAN, THERE, THERE ARE ALWAYS UPDATES AND INFORMATION GOING ON AS IT RELATES TO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, SO, SO EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT THE MLK PARADE SATURDAY, RIGHT? OKAY. 
          SO WE WILL BE THERE AS THE MAPLES FOUNDATION, AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JOIN US, PLEASE COME. 
          WILL BE OVER. 
          UH, I GUESS THE EASIEST WAY TO SAY IT IS, SO THE PARADE ROUTE HAS CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF MLK. 
          UM, SO WE WILL BE DOWN NEAR IRMA RANGE, ALL GIRLS SCHOOL. 
          THAT'S WHERE PENNSYLVANIA DEAD ENDS INTO THE STATE FAIR, TEXAS. 
          SO IF YOU WANNA JOIN US, PLEASE COME ON DOWN. 
          LOOK FOR ME. 
          LOOK FOR A SILVER, UH, GMC, UH, TRUCK. 
          AND, UH, WE WILL MAKE IT DO WHAT IT DO. 
          NICE. 
          OH, AND, UH, IF YOU PLAN TO ATTEND, PLEASE GO BY AND SEE, UH, THE DIRECTOR TO GET YOU SOME SWAG. 
          WE NEED, UH, WE NEED SOME SWAG OUT THERE. 
          SO DOES ANYBODY KNOW NOW IF THEY'RE COMING? ANYBODY? ANYBODY? OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. 
          1, 2, 3, 4. 
          NO, NO. 
          ARE YOU COMING? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S GONNA BE TOO COLD FOR YOU, RIGHT? ? YOU'RE COMING TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON THE WEATHER. 
          AH, BASED ON THE WEATHER. 
          THE NEW YORKER, THE NEW YORKERS. 
          SO 40 AND SUN IS 60 IN TEXAS, SO WE'LL SEE . 
          SO AGAIN, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE THERE. 
          UM, AND IF TIME JUST, YEAH, JUST LOOK FOR ME. 
          YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE ME. 
          BUT WHAT TIME IS THE PARADE? PARADE STARTS AT 10:00 AM SHARP. 
          YEAH. 
          AND YOU GOTTA GET THERE AND, AND GET PARKED, BECAUSE ONCE THE PARADE STARTS, YOU CAN'T RUN IN FROM THE SIDE BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IS IS FENCED OFF. 
          ARE WE MARCHING TOGETHER? DO WE HAVE, WE CAN. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH, WE CAN. 
          OR, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, IT, IT, THE STREET IS VERY, VERY WIDE ON MLK, IT'S LIKE A DOWNTOWN STREET. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, YOU, MOST OF THE TIME PEOPLE ARE WALKING BACK AND FORTH TO THE TRUCK, GETTING SWAG AND THEN GOING OUT DISPERSING TO THE PUBLIC AND, AND HANDING IT OFF AND THEN COMING BACK, AND THEN JUST DOING THAT OVER SEVERAL BLOCKS. 
          BUT THE PARADE ROUTE IS SHORTER THAN IT USUALLY IS. 
          IT'LL GO DOWN MLK TO ATLANTA, DOWN ATLANTA TO PENNSYLVANIA, AND THEN BACK TO THE FAIR. 
          IT IS NOT AS LONG AS IT USED TO BE. 
          AND IT'S NOT AS LONG AS IT'LL BE ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED. 
          BUT EVERYBODY'S WELCOME. 
          COME ON OUT. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A TIME FOR US TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR THIS MONTH. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE OTHER THING, I'M SORRY. 
          IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING GOING ON IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, PLEASE INVITE ME. 
          I, I, I'D LOVE TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING. 
          HE MEANS IT, HE MEANS IT. 
          WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE NOW, UH, TO REPORT FROM THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, UH, WITH MAJOR ANTHONY GREER. 
          AND, UH, YEAH, I, I WAS SO THANKFUL TO SEE THAT DASHBOARD. 
          I THINK WHENEVER THEY COME UP WITH THE COMMENDATIONS, I MAY SUBMIT MINE, UH, FOR MAJOR GREER FOR, UH, AND HIS TEAM, UH, FOR BEING HERE, STAYING LATE. 
          UH, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY UPDATES, UH, FROM YOU? WELL, I'VE JUST GOT A, A BRIEF THING AS WE BEGIN, UH, 2025. 
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LISTEN, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION IS EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THE BOARD, AND IT'S, IT'S FANTASTIC TO WORK WITH, UH, THE DIRECTOR THAT WE HAVE AND MS. WILLIS BOARD. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO PUT OUT, UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, INVESTIGATIONS THAT ARE TIMELY, COMPLETE, THOROUGH. 
          AND ALSO THE OTHER, UH, IMPORTANT THING IS TRANSPARENT, UH, WITH THAT TRANSPARENCY PIECE. 
          UM, AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, UH, AT THE VERY, VERY END OF LAST YEAR, MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS RIGHT AFTER WE HAD THE, UM, OUR, THE MEETING THERE AT THE REC CENTER. 
          UM, AFTER THAT MEETING, I MET WITH THE DIRECTOR AND SHE GAVE, ASKED HER FOR A LIST OF THINGS THAT SHE COULD PROVIDE FOR US TO MAKE INTERNAL AFFAIRS A MORE TRANSPARENT PLACE. 
          UH, SHE GAVE ME THAT LIST HERE, UH, I THINK MAYBE, UH, ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO. 
          AND MOST OF THE THINGS THAT SHE HAD ON THAT LIST, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE, WERE THEY WERE ALREADY IN PLACE. 
          BUT NOW THAT DOESN'T SAY THAT THOSE THINGS NEEDED TO BE ENHANCED. 
          AND, AND ALSO THOSE THINGS NEEDED TO BE, UH, AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          UH, THOSE THINGS ARE IN PLACE ON THE WEBSITE, BUT NOW IF THE PUBLIC CAN'T FIND IT, I MEAN, THAT REALLY DOESN'T, DOESN'T HELP US. 
          SO, UH, TWO THINGS THAT WE TOOK AWAY FROM THAT LIST. 
          FIRST OF ALL, UH, WE'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THAT LIST. 
          SECOND OF ALL, WE'RE GONNA ENHANCE OUR, UH, OUR WEBSITE, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE OCPO, UH, FANTASTIC TO WORK WITH, TO, TO MAKE THOSE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE WORKS, UH, WEBSITE. 
          THE WEBSITE IS FUNCTIONAL, BUT IT'S KIND OF OUTDATED, UH, LIKE A LOT OF POLICE, UH, UH, WEBSITES ARE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA UPDATE THAT WEBSITE, ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO IT, SOME, SOME HYPERLINKS TO TAKE THE, THE, THE CITIZEN DIRECTLY TO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO CLICK TWO OR THREE TIMES TO FIND IT. 
          IT'LL BE HYPERLINKS IN THERE AND A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATES. 
          UM, SECONDLY, I THINK I TOUCHED ON THIS THE LAST MEETING. 
          THE, THE IA PRO PUBLIC PORTAL, WHICH I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. 
          IT CONTINUES TO MAKE PROGRESS THROUGH THE CITY IT, UH, UH, APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          SO WE'RE ONE MORE STEP CLOSER, AND AS SOON AS WE ROLL THAT OUT, UM, YOU GUYS WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST, WE'LL DEMO IT HERE FOR YOU AND SHOW YOU ALL ITS CAPABILITIES. 
          UM, LASTLY, UM, ONE THING THAT WE HAVE, UM, AND THIS IS AGAIN, UM, A SUGGESTION FROM THE, FROM THE BOARD, FROM THE OFFICE, UM, LITERATURE THAT SPECIFICALLY TELLS THE CITIZEN WHAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS DOES. 
          AND NOW IT'S KIND OF DIFFERENT, UH, THAT COMES FROM THE, UH, UH, THE BOARD'S INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO MAKE A COMPLAINT OR HOW TO, UM, UH, COMMEND AN OFFICER. 
          OUR INFORMATION LEANS MORE SO ON THE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS. 
          UH, YOU'LL LET THE CITIZEN KNOW THAT, HEY, THESE ARE THE STEPS IN THE PROCESS. 
          THESE ARE THE, THE FINDINGS THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN A, A PARTICULAR INVESTIGATION. 
          GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT OF MORE INFORMATION FOR, UH, THAT PROCESS. 
          UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY, UH, CREATING FLYERS THAT WE PLAN TO PUT OUT, AND NOT JUST, UM, LIBRARIES, BUT MORE, MORE SO PUBLIC, MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS. 
          AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO SAY WE GET AROUND TO ALL OF 'EM. 
          IT'S GONNA BE A LONG PROCESS, BUT THAT'S OUR GOAL TO GET TO EVERY ONE OF THEM. 
          BUT, UH, SURELY WE'LL GET TO MOST OF THEM HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          UH, WE'LL PROVIDE, UH, THE DIRECTOR WITH A COPY OF THAT, UH, THAT NEW INFORMATION UPDATED AS WELL AS YOU GUYS WILL ON YOUR OWN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO VIEW THE, THE UPDATES TO THE WEBSITE AS THEY COME ALONG. 
          AND WE'RE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA ROLL OUT AND SAY, HERE IT IS. 
          BUT AS SOON AS WE CAN MAKE THE UPDATE, WE'RE DOING IT NOW. 
          SO YOU'LL, IF YOU WENT ON THE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE SOME NEW HYPERLINKS ON THERE, UH, THAT TAKE CITIZENS DIRECTLY TO THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WANT. 
          UM, LAST THING I HAVE, BEFORE I CLOSE, JUST A, AGAIN, AN OPEN INVITATION FOR ANYONE HERE ON THE BOARD TO COME TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS. 
          ANYTIME YOU GET READY, TEXT ME, CALL ME, CARRY YOUR PIGEON. 
          I DON'T CARE. 
          GET IT TO ME. 
          I WANT TO COME TO YOU AND SIT DOWN. 
          WE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, OPEN BOOK YOU, YOU COULD SEE IT FOR YOURSELF, UH, WHENEVER YOU GUYS GET READY. 
          AND, AND I, I'LL BE THE ONE, UH, CONDUCTING THE TOUR AND WON'T CHARGE YOU. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GREER. 
          ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I JUST, JUST TWO, TWO COMMENTS. 
          NUMBER ONE, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT, UM, MAJOR GREER'S PREDECESSOR, I TOOK HER UP, UH, MAJOR ESE AND I WENT OVER THERE AND IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND I WOULD RECOMMEND ANYONE DOING THAT. 
          IT, WE WERE THERE ABOUT AN HOUR, I THINK, AND IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. 
          UH, WELL WORTH IT. 
          SECOND, WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER POLICE OFFICERS. 
          ARE THIS, THESE, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T INTRODUCE MY, UH, YEAH, THEY'RE PART OF YOUR STAFF, SO I THINK YOU SHOULD INTRODUCE 'EM. 
          'CAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HERE ALL NIGHT WITH THE REST OF US. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, I THINK, UH, YOU MET, UH, LIEUTENANT MORRIS BEFORE. 
          THIS IS LIEUTENANT TYLER. 
          UM, SERGEANT, MAKE SURE I SAY IT RIGHT. 
          KISH AND, UH, SERGEANT CARTER. 
          UM, THEY'RE NEW IN, IN THE INVESTIGATION. 
          AND THE ONE THING I WANNA MAKE CERTAIN IS EVERYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED WITH INTERNAL AFFAIRS UNDERSTANDS THIS PROCESS AND IS A PART OF THE BOARD. 
          SO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, PUT FACES WITH NAMES AND, AND, AND, AND IT'S IMPORTANT 
          [03:45:01]
TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, AS WELL AS THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO WE CAN TAKE THAT BACK TO THE OFFICE AND MAKE SURE WE IMPLEMENT IT INTO THE PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WOULD THAT BE, YES, MS. KING, WOULD, I LIKE YOUR SUGGESTION, DAVID, ABOUT VISITING AND, AND HAVING A TOUR. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION. 
          HOW WILL WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT CALL? YOU OKAY. 
          AND SHOULD WE DO IT? ILL, I'LL GIVE YOU, SHOULD WE DO IT IN MASS OR JUST COME AS WE CAN? INDIVIDUAL? YOU CAN COME, IF YOU CAN COME IN MASS, THAT'S FINE. 
          IF YOU CAN COME, 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY'S SCHEDULE WOULD, WOULD COME TOGETHER. 
          SURE. 
          BUT CERTAINLY WHENEVER YOU GET READY, I'LL GIVE YOU MY PHONE NUMBER AS SOON AS THIS IS OVER WITH, AND YOU CAN CALL ME WHENEVER YOU GET READY AND I'LL BE OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO, AND IF I JUST ADD ONE THING TO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAJOR, UH, INDIVIDUALLY, NOT IN MASS, IN MASS, CREATES A POTENTIAL OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUE. 
          SO YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SORRY. 
          DEFINE MASS. 
          I I WILL TRY TO THANK YOU. 
          UM, GET A SCHEDULE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE IT PART OF OUR TRAINING. 
          MAKE SURE TO AVOID EACH OTHER. 
          'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA RIGHT. 
          EVEN FLIRT WITH A QUORUM. 
          NO. 
          QUO. 
          YEAH. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS, DR. 
          TO QUESTION? THANK YOU. 
          MAJOR. 
          UM, YOU, YOU DID SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A HARD COPY THAT WILL GO IN MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS. 
          DID I HEAR THAT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YOU HAD A TIMEFRAME ON THAT? MAYBE? I HAVE A SUSPENSE DATE WITH THE, WITH THE, MY, MY TEAM. 
          OKAY. 
          OF THE 23RD TO HAVE A ROUGH DRAFT TO ME SO I CAN REVIEW IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE TOO MUCH LONGER THAN THE 23RD OF THIS MONTH. 
          SO MAYBE THE SPRING. 
          OH, WELL, I HATE TO PUT A TAB ON IT, BUT CERTAINLY BY THE END OF NEXT MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER EVENTS AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME FOR THOSE EVENTS, BUT I ALSO LIKE TO TASK MY OTHER, UH, UH, BOARD MEMBERS HERE TO GET SOME AND GET 'EM OUT INTO THEIR OWN DISTRICTS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH, WE DON'T NEED TO PUT ALL THAT ON DPD. 
          WE, WE CAN WORK OUR OWN DISTRICT. 
          IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND, AND TALK TO THE PUBLIC. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          REC CENTERS AND LIBRARIES IN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR OWN DISTRICTS. 
          BUT THANK YOU. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO DISTRIBUTE THEM AT ALL THE, UH, DALLAS COLLEGE LOCATIONS. 
          'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL IN DALLAS COUNTY. 
          WE CERTAINLY HAVE 'EM HERE AVAILABLE FOR YOU. 
          AND WE'LL GET 'EM AS MANY COPIES AS ANY BOARD MEMBER NEEDS. 
          SO, ALISON, MR. ALLEN, DO YOU HAVE A, A QUESTION? YES. 
          UM, I WAS LISTENING TO THE DEPARTMENT'S DATA SCIENTIST, MR. SCALES, AND IT, AND IT GAVE ME TO WONDER, UM, AND SO I, I'M PLANNING TO MAKE A MOTION TO, TO SEND A MEMO TO GET, UH, JUST A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST, REALLY. 
          UM, AND I KIND OF WANTED TO RUN IT BY YOU TO SEE IF THIS IS THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT IN YOUR EXPERIENCE IS QUICKLY OR EASILY ACCESSIBLE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, IT GAVE ME TO WONDER HOW MANY OF THE OFFICERS IN DPD LIVE IN DALLAS AND ALSO, UM, WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE RACIALLY, ETHNICALLY, GENDER WISE OF THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE. 
          AND BROKEN DOWN BY RANK AND POSITION, LIKE TRAFFIC, PATROL, CAPERS, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          THE MAKEUP OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          I'M ALMOST CERTAIN THAT WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, THOSE OFFICERS THAT LIVE IN DALLAS. 
          I'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE, UH, RACIAL MAKEUP OF EACH PARTICULAR DIVISION. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER AREA I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK ON. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST INFORMATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT, BOTH HOW MANY OFFICERS LIVE IN DALLAS AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE, AND SEPARATED BY RANK AND DEPARTMENT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          AND IS THIS, UH, WRITTEN ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ADDRESS TO DALLAS, P-T-D-P-D? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO THIS MOTION? OKAY. 
          DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS REQUEST? I, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YOU, WHEN YOU SAY DALLAS, YOU MEANING DALLAS PROPER OR DALLAS COUNTY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? I WANNA KNOW HOW MANY OF THE OFFICERS LIVE IN COMMUNITY WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE POLICING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THAT, THAT MAKES IT CLEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN? OKAY. 
          I'M CONFUSED WITH OUR ROLE AS COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE OVERSIGHT OVER INCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN. 
          WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF US KNOWING THIS DETAIL? HUMAN RESOURCE DATA. 
          I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THERE'S KIND OF A PRIVACY CONFIDENTIALITY ISSUE HERE FOR ME. 
          CERTAINLY. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT IT MESHES WITH OUR PURPOSE. 
          SO CERTAINLY I DON'T WANNA KNOW NAMES OR ANY KIND OF IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION, 
          [03:50:01]
JUST SORT OF A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THE DEPARTMENT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE OUR PURPOSE IS TO RECOMMEND POLICY AS A WHOLE AND REC AND REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS TO, WHICH IS TO SAY THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT IT IS RELEVANT TO OUR POLICY PURPOSE AS WELL AS JUST TO UNDERSTAND A BETTER PICTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE SEEK TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT TO. 
          MM-HMM. 
          ANY FURTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? I, I THINK I, I AGREE WITH MS. WADSWORTH. 
          I THINK WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP TOO MUCH IN TRYING TO DO TOO MUCH. 
          AND I JUST THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA. 
          AND I AGREE 100%. 
          TH THIS IS HUMAN, UH, RESOURCES. 
          UM, I, I THINK, UH, MAJOR GREER AND EVERYBODY'S BEEN PRETTY ACCOMMODATING. 
          AND I DON'T, I JUST DON'T THINK WE, WE SHOULD BE IN THAT BUSINESS. 
          I'M NOT IN FAVOR ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO A VOTE? I THINK ONE THING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF DALLAS LIVE? YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          AND I THINK TO HIGHLIGHT, OKAY, UM, X PERCENTAGE LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF DALLAS, THEY LIVE IN THE SUBURBS, WHATEVER. 
          I THINK THAT DOESN'T CAUSE US TO HAVE A BETTER ONGOING RELATIONSHIP. 
          I THINK IT MIGHT CAUSE FRICTION. 
          AND I, I DON'T SEE A PURPOSE FOR IT THAT FULFILLS THE PURPOSE OF THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. 
          THE, CAN I SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? YES. 
          THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS A LOT OF TIMES OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO DO MAKE THESE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA BE THE MAKEUP OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT DEPEND ON US TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEM REGARDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO IN THAT SENSE, I WOULD FIND THIS INFORMATION USEFUL AS SOMETHING THAT I COULD TAKE BACK TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I GUESS NOT GONNA LAY DOWN THIS HILL. 
          RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE WHAT IS USEFUL IN THAT. 
          WE'RE SURELY WE'RE NOT GOING TO REQUIRE POLICE OFFICERS TO LIVE IN CERTAIN AREAS AND, AND DICTATE THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          I JUST DON'T SEE WHERE IT GETS US ANYWHERE. 
          I MEAN, DO YOU DO KNOW THAT THAT ONE TIME WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS HAD TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS ONE TIME? ANY? UH, IT'S NOT ANYMORE. 
          NOT ANYMORE. 
          NO. 
          GREAT NEWS IS, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THIS TO A VOTE AND WE CAN, UH, WE CAN DECIDE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE ALSO. 
          I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. 
          AS FAR AS THE DISPARITIES, DISPARITIES, AS FAR AS THE OFFENSES THAT'S HAPPENING IN DISTRICT SIX, WHICH IS EXTREMELY HIGH, I THINK IT WOULD BE AT LEAST, UH, GOOD TO HEAR ABOUT HOW MANY ACTUALLY WOULD LIVE THERE OR COULD LIVE THERE. 
          IT WOULD, IT WOULD CLARIFY JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHERE THE, WHERE DO THEY LIVE AND WHERE WOULD THEY LIVE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE POLICING THAT AREA. 
          'CAUSE STILL COMES UP TO THE SIMPLE FACT OF LOOKING AT WHAT'S REALLY OVERPOLICED AND ARE THEY EVEN IN THAT COMMUNITY OR ARE THEY COMING TO THAT COMMUNITY TO, TO DO THEIR JOB? AND IF THEY ARE, OR HOW MANY BIASES REALLY DO EXIST IN THAT SENSE AS FAR AS DISTRICT SIX IS CONCERNED, I THINK IT WOULD CLARIFY A LOT. 
          AND, UH, IN YOUR, YOUR MOTION TO CLARIFY IS THAT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY ZERO IDENTIFYING INFORMATION. 
          BA BASICALLY A PRETTY HIGH, HIGH LEVEL VIEW. 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST A HIGH LEVEL SNAPSHOT. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S TAKE IT TO THE VOTE. 
          LET'S TAKE THIS TO A VOTE UNLESS THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION AND WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL ON THIS ONE. 
          THERE'S 10 OF US, SO IT WOULD TAKE, UH, I THINK SIX, UH, FOR THE MAJORITY. 
          UH, DISTRICT ONE, YAY OR NAY . 
          NAY. 
          THAT'S A NAY. 
          YES. 
          NAY YES. 
          YES. 
          NAY, NO . 
          CORRECT. 
          THERE'S A NAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THUMB SEPARATE THUMBS DOWN HERE. 
          I CAN'T, SO NO. 
          YEAH. 
          MAYBE MIGHT. 
          IT'S EASIER TO SAY YES AND NO. 
          . 
          THIS ONE? YES AND NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, DISTRICT TWO. 
          YES. 
          DISTRICT FOUR, YES. 
          DISTRICT SIX. 
          YES. 
          WE TURN YOUR MIC ON. 
          UH, YEP. 
          YES. 
          THANK DISTRICT NINE. 
          YES. 
          DISTRICT 10. 
          YES. 
          DISTRICT 12, NO. 
          DISTRICT 13, NO. 
          DISTRICT 14. 
          YES. 
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THAT'S SIX VOTES. 
          THE YES IS CARRIE. 
          UH, AND SO THAT MOTION HAS BEEN PASSED. 
          VOTE. 
          UM, I SAID NO VOTE. 
          I SAID, WELL, I SAID I VOTE YES. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, AND SO THE OFFICE, WILL YOU, UH, HELP US, UH, FACILITATE THAT LETTER? AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT NOTHING, UH, INTRUSIVE. 
          VERY HIGH LEVEL NUMBERS. 
          UH, JUST ASKING FOR THOSE NUMBERS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL, UH, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON, UH, TO THE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS. 
          WE'LL, REAL BRIEFLY, I JUST WANT YOU TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS. 
          'CAUSE THE OFFICE HAS DONE A LOT OF UPDATING AND YOU CAN EVEN SEE SOME NEW CHARTS AND GRAPHS. 
          THERE'S EVEN ONE THAT'S LIFE BETTER PARKS, SAFER SIDEWALKS, IMPROVED HOUSING. 
          WHAT WILL THE NEXT PROJECT BE? WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          JOIN US AT THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD, PUBLIC MEETING, IN PERSON, HYBRID OR VIRTUALLY TO SHARE YOUR IDEAS, CONCERNS, AND HELP SHAPE THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          FOR MORE DETAILS, VISIT OUR WEBSITE, GIVE US A CALL, AND BE SURE TO FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO STAY CONNECTED. 
          HELLO, DALLAS. 
          I'M INTERIM CITY MANAGER, KIMBERLY VISOR. 
          TOLBERT. 
          AS WE HONOR THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. 
          WE REFLECT ON HIS VISION OF A COMMUNITY BUILT ON JUSTICE, EQUALITY AND OPPORTUNITY. 
          THAT VISION IS ALIVE HERE IN DALLAS, GUIDING THE WORK THAT WE DO TO MAKE THE CITY A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE CAN THRIVE. 
          WE'RE WORKING TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE, HUMBLE, AND EFFICIENT IN ALL THAT WE DO. 
          BUILDING TRUST WITH OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH MEANINGFUL ACTION AND RESULTS. 
          WE EMBRACE DR. 
          KING'S MESSAGE OF UNITY SERVICE AND HOPE AS WE STRIVE TO DELIVER SERVICES THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. 
          TOGETHER WE DELIVER IMPACT, AND TOGETHER WE DELIVER RESULTS. 
          OUR MISSION IS TO CREATE OPPORTUNITY VIRTUALLY OR HOWEVER YOU GOT FIX IT. 
          . 
          ALRIGHT, WELL YOU ONLY GET THREE ABSENCES. 
          YEAH, I'M GONNA GET KICKED OFF THIS BOARD, MAN. 
          UM, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO DECIDE IT TODAY, PER SE, THAT CAN BE VOTED ON NEXT MEETING, BUT, UH, I JUST, WE CAN'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. 
          YEAH, I GUESS. 
          WE'LL, TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO VOTE ABOUT IT. 
          UM, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT BUG OUT THERE. 
          IT WOULD HELP ME OUT, UH, SELFISHLY, WHY? UM, YEAH, I WAS THINKING MAYBE THAT NEXT WEEK WOULD BE MARCH 18TH, WHICH WE 18? NO, SPRING BREAK. 
          UH, MARCH. 
          UH, THE SPRING BREAK IS MARCH 10TH THROUGH THE 14TH. 
          YOU WANNA GO MEETING TO WHEN? MARCH 18TH? YEAH, JUST ONE WEEK LATER. 
          JUST PUT A CHECK IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, THAT'LL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT PONDER, DO A POLL, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT, UH, THAT'D BE HELPFUL. 
          JUST PUT IT OUT THERE. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          WELL, IF IT'S VOTED DOWN, IT'LL IT'LL BE, IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          SO, UH, SO THERE IS, UH, A TIME DEES MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          UH, WANTED TO EXTEND ANYONE HERE PERSONALLY, UH, IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENT PUBLICLY. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE AT THIS TIME? NO, NO ONE IS ONLINE. 
          AND, UH, SO, UH, NO ONE IS IN PERSON. 
          NO ONE'S ONLINE. 
          SO WE WILL NOW MOVE ON, UH, TO ITEM 14. 
          UH, THIS IS BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS. 
          UH, ANY COMMENTS FROM ANY PARTICULAR BOARD MEMBERS AT THIS TIME? YES. 
          UM, DISTRICT SIX. 
          YES, DERRICK GRAM. 
          UM, ONCE AGAIN, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE BOARD. 
          UM, DIRECTOR ANDRE, WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, I FELT I WAS HONORED TO BE ON IT. 
          AND THEN I FELT INDIGENT BECAUSE THINGS WERE HAPPENING AND THEY WERE, IT IS KINDA LIKE WE WAS RUNNING BACKWARDS, NOT EVEN IN PLACE. 
          AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, AM I GONNA DO THIS EVERY TUESDAY? YOU KNOW, AND IT WOULD BE FRUSTRATING AS FAR AS THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND JUST SOME REAL BASIC THINGS. 
          AND I'M, I'M, I CAN SAY, I CAN SAY IT NOW. 
          I'M OLD ENOUGH. 
          I JUST TURNED 56 JANUARY 7TH . 
          SO I FEEL A LITTLE OLDER BEEN BETTER, RIGHT? THAT I CAN GET A LITTLE ON IT ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE AND WHAT SHOULD NOT BE. 
          AND THEN SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT EXISTS. 
          THERE SHOULDN'T BE ALL THESE EXTRA QUIRKS THAT I CAME INTO, YOU KNOW, THAT I SO-CALLED JOINED. 
          AND WHEN I JOINED SOMETHING, I JOINED WHOLEHEARTEDLY. 
          AND SO TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE REALLY FLIPPED THIS SCRIPT AND MADE IT REALLY A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO COME TO AND, AND BE A PART OF, DEFINITELY EVEN JUST TO SEE SOMEBODY FROM THE POLICE FORCE TO EVEN COME AND, UH, IF THEY SAY THE WORD IS ACCOMMODATE, BUT EVEN TO JOIN, IT WAS, IT IS BEAUTIFUL. 
          WHEN I FIRST SAW HIM, I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT'S GOING ON? AND THEN WHEN HE, THEY INTRODUCED YOU AND KEPT GOING, AND I STARTED, KEPT SEEING PEOPLE 
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COME, I WAS LIKE, THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S A GOOD RAP. 
          AND THEN THE STAFF GOT FILLED UP AND I'M LIKE, WHOA, THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE IDEA WAS IN MY HEAD OF WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          AND IT'S GETTING BETTER. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SAY I, I LOVE IT. 
          AND THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. PEGRAM. 
          UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? UH, CAN I JUST ECHO THAT? SO I, I JUST BRIEFLY, I, I CAME INTO A SIMILAR SITUATION WHEN I WAS 31 YEARS OLD. 
          , UH, I, NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          HOLD ON. 
          I, I MOVED TO A DIFFERENT CITY, WENT TO A FEDERAL AGENCY, UH, IN A NEW CITY, UH, A LARGE FEDERAL AGENCY. 
          AND MY JOB, I WAS TASKED WITH STARTING AN OFFICE FROM SCRATCH. 
          UM, AND I DID IT AND IT TOOK ABOUT 18 MONTHS. 
          THE PROGRESS WE MADE IN ABOUT 18 MONTHS, UH, MS. ANDRE HAS DONE IN ABOUT FOUR. 
          SO, UM, I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT. 
          VERY PLEASED, WELL SAID. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? YES, MS. ALLISON GRINER ALLEN, I HAVE A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO MY 9-YEAR-OLD CLAIRE AND ALSO THE LOVELY DAUGHTER OF OUR NEW COMMUNICATION ADVISOR FOR TOLERATING THIS LATE MEETING AND BEING FANTASTIC. 
          THREE, CHEERS. 
          SHOUT OUT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE IN THE MINUTES OF THOSE NAMES. 
          SO, UH, YEAH. 
          UH, YES. 
          BOARD MEMBER. 
          MAPLES, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT TO? YEAH, SO, SO I WANTED TO, UH, I WANTED TO SAY, UM, IN, NO, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE MY FIFTH YEAR ON THIS BOARD. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY, BUT WE GOT SOME GROWING TO DO, BUT IT IS, IT IS REALLY COME TOGETHER. 
          UM, SO, UH, THANK YOU DIRECTOR FOR YOUR HARD WORK. 
          THANK THE DIRECTOR'S TEAM FOR THEIR HARD WORK. 
          THANK YOU BOARD FOR YOUR HARD WORK. 
          AND, AND, UH, THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UH, WE, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND, AND YOUR TEAM BECAUSE IT IS A, IT IS A TEAM EFFORT. 
          YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WE COME HERE AND WE GET BEAT UP. 
          A LOT OF TIMES WE BEAT EACH OTHER UP, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, JUST LIKE MR. GRAM SAY, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE WHOLEHEARTEDLY INTO THIS. 
          THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT ANY OF US TAKE LIGHTLY. 
          SO YOU GOTTA BE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DO SERVE THE PUBLIC. 
          SO ON NOT, NOT TO PROLONG THE MEETING ONWARD TO 2025, NOT TO PROLONG THE MEETING. 
          YES, MR. KIDDING. 
          I WANT TO, I I, I'VE MADE IT KNOWN MANY TIMES THAT HOW, UM, HOW APPRECIATIVE OF I AM OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT. 
          AND WE'VE GOTTEN HERE PRETTY DARN QUICKLY. 
          UH, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO SAY, JUST FROM AN OBSERVATION POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IS I SEE A REAL SPIRIT OF COOPERATION BETWEEN OUR BOARD AND THE POLICE. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT. 
          AND I ATTRIBUTE IT TO MS. ANDRE AND MAJOR GREER. 
          I I THINK THEY BOTH DESERVE CREDIT FOR THAT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VERY WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? UH, CHAIRMAN. 
          MAY, MAY, MAY I MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. 
          IT'S BEEN SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE IS. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED SAY NO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE'RE ON THIS, UH, AS OF 9:37 PM MEETING IS OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL MY STUFF.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.