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CALL THE MEETING TO

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ORDER, KIND OF ONE

[Dallas Skillman Corridor TIF District Board of Directors Meeting on December 6, 2024.]

AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO IS INTRODUCTION OF MEETING PARTICIPANTS.

SO, UM, WE CAN GO AROUND THE ROOM.

THERE'S A SIGN IN SHEET.

IF YOU'RE PHYSICALLY, PLEASE SIGN IT IN.

I WILL SIGN IN OUR COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE AS HE ANNOUNCES HIMSELF.

BUT, UM, GO AHEAD AND START AROUND THE ROOM.

MARCUS, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO A LITTLE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS AND I WANTED TO WELCOME SHANNON AND MARK, UH, NOT MARCUS, A AND, UM, I JUST, I THOUGHT WE WOULD GO AROUND THE ROOM AND, AND JUST TELL THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU FROM, UM, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EITHER YOUR PROFESSIONAL OR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS THAT MIGHT BE RELATIVE.

AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE SHARING OF WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.

THE, IT'S A LOT WRITE.

SO, UH, WELL, I SET THE BAR BELOW, SO I WAS GONNA GO AHEAD.

MARCUS WALTER LIVE, UH, MOS FARM, UH, RIGHT BY MO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

I GOT THREE KIDS AT MO RIGHT NOW, A FIFTH GRADER, FOURTH GRADER, AND FIRST GRADER.

I GREW UP IN DALLAS, IN PRESTON, HOLLAND.

I WENT TO HILLCREST HIGH SCHOOL IN UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AND THEN TEXAS TECH, MBA.

AND, UH, WE'VE LIVED IN MOSS FARM NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 14TH, NO, 12 YEARS, 11 YEARS, SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

2014 IS WHEN WE MOVED IN.

AND, UH, UM, REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, UH, MULTIFAMILY AND, UH, SELF STORAGE, PRIMARILY SELF STORAGE.

UH, RIGHT NOW, ME AND TWO PARTNERS, UH, OWN BUSINESS.

AND, UH, JUST SUPER INTERESTED IN KEEPING THE TRAJECTORY OF LAKE HIGHLANDS AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A, AS A TIGHT-KNIT COMMUNITY THAN IT IS.

UM, HAVE THAT TRAJECTORY POINTED UP.

SEEMS LIKE IT'S KIND OF FLATLINED THERE FOR A DECADE OR SO AFTER A HIGH TRAJECTORY OF, UH, GROWTH AND, AND, UH, JUST A LOT OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA MAINTAIN POSITIVE MOMENTUM INTO.

SO, GREAT.

SUSAN MORGAN, UM, BEEN, WHAT, ALMOST 40 YEARS IN LAKE HIGHLANDS, 30 YEARS IN THIS HOUSE.

SO ANOTHER EIGHT YEARS OF AROUND THE FOREST MEADOW AREA.

AND ANOTHER EIGHT YEARS ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, OVER ON CAPRI DRIVE.

SO, BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD A LONG TIME.

UM, I'VE BEEN IN, I'M A RETIRED MARKETING DIRECTOR 20 YEARS AT TEXAS INSTRUMENTS WITH A FEW OTHER SOFTWARE COMPANIES.

AFTER THAT, I HAVE BEEN, UM, INVOLVED IN A NUMBER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES IN THE COMMUNITY OVER THE YEARS.

AND MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT MY CLAIM TO FAME IS THE INTERCHANGE AT LBJ SKILLMAN, WHICH HAS EARNED ME THE TITLE BRIDGE LADY .

UM, I'VE BEEN COMING TO THE SKILLMAN BOARD, SKILLMAN COURT, OR TIFF BOARD MEETINGS SINCE ITS INCEPTION, I THINK.

UM, FIRST AS AN OBSERVER, THEN AS A SPEAKER, THEN AS A BOARD MEMBER, AND NOW YOUR CHAIR .

SO, UM, I GUESS WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN NOW IS THAT, AND WE'VE SEEN THE TIFF MATURE AND WE'VE BEEN GAINING A LOT OF MOMENTUM, AND WE NOW HAVE A SUNSET DATE, UM, 2036, LOOKING US IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, MY PARTICIPATION AT THIS TIME WOULD BE, LET'S GO BACK AND SEE WHERE WE'VE BEEN, WHERE WE'RE GOING, AND, UM, HOW WE PUT OURSELVES ON A TRAJECTORY FOR THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S MY INTEREST AT THIS POINT.

ALL A, UH, I LIVE IN PEBBLE CREEK, WHICH IS THE AREA AROUND, UH, CHURCH ROAD AND TORY SOUND.

UH, WEST NAPLES, UH, BEEN IN LAKE HOL FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS.

PREVIOUSLY IN LAKEWOOD.

BEFORE THAT, UH, AN ARCHITECT, UH, I LEAD OUR BUILDINGS GROUP WITH, UH, JACOBS, UH, WHICH IS BASED HERE IN ALICE.

FEW BLOCKS FROM HERE.

AND, UH, PREVIOUSLY SERVED SUSAN ON THE, UH, LAKE DISTRICT COMMITTEE FEW YEARS AGO, WHICH IS LED BY, UH, KATHY.

MY INTEREST IS, UH, REALLY AS YOU SAID, KIND OF MOVING THIS FORWARD AND, UH, MAYBE CHANGING OUR DIRECTION.

WE, FOR THIS FORWARD HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.

WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE YOUR I GO NEXT.

UM, I'M SHANNON MCCORD.

I AM PROBABLY THE NEWEST PRESIDENT OF LIFE AMERICAN VICTORIA.

UM, I'VE BEEN IN, I LIVE IN THE TRI LIONS AREA, RIGHT AT CHURCH.

UM, I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT FOUR YEARS.

UM, I LIVED FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS OVER IN BLUFF, OFF OF INWOOD LOVERS.

BEFORE THEN, IT WAS ON A T BOARD FOR, UM, FOR BICKERY PARK.

SO THIS IS MY SECOND TIFF EXPERIENCE.

I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A

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LITTLE DIFFERENT .

UM, BUT I'M, I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE ON BOARD SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF INTIMATE, UM, UH, EXPERIENCE WITH SKILLMAN, UM, AND THE, UM, THINGS GOING ON.

THE TRAFFIC HAS JUST GOTTEN HORRIBLE.

I, I TOO WORK IN THE ENGINEERING FIELD.

I WORK FOR HGTV ACROSS THE STREET FROM ALLEN.

UM, I'VE WORKED THERE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS, SO I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT.

SO, UM, I'VE, I'VE WORKED AROUND IT FOR A LONG TIME.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, THAT SUSAN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, JUST WITH THE MASTER PLANS AND THINGS TO ENHANCE TO TRAFFIC CALM, AND I JUST REALLY WANNA BE A PART OF THAT AND HELP GET THAT STUFF DONE.

AND, AND JUST ALONGSIDE WITH YOU GUYS, THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT SIX FIVES GETTING DONE AND AREA UP THERE AND JUST TO HELP PART OF MAKING THAT THE RIGHT DEVELOPMENT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT.

SO, UM, THAT, WHAT STREET DO YOU LIVE? UH, I LIVE ON LEMONWOOD.

OKAY, SURE.

.

YEAH.

YEAH, VILLE AND MY BEST FRIEND LIVES ON CL MEADOW ROAD.

MY NAME'S BILL BOY.

UM, MY FAMILY AND I LIVE AT FERNDALE AND CHURCH, SO RIGHT BY THE END OF THE LAKE HIGHLANDS TRAIL.

UM, WE'VE BEEN IN LAKE HIGHLANDS SINCE 2016.

UH, WE'VE GOT FOUR KIDDOS.

MY WIFE'S A PHYSICIAN AT PRESBY MEDICAL CITY, UM, CPA BY TRAINING.

UM, I'VE BEEN ON THIS TIP BOARD SINCE 2019.

SO, UM, I GOT INVOLVED, UH, MET SUSAN THROUGH THE BJ NOW INITIATIVE WHEN THE, UH, WHEN THE EXPANSION PROJECTS STALLED OUT.

UM, YEAH, SO LIKE A COUPLE OF Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD A WHILE, LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING SOME MORE PROJECTS ROLLING FORWARD.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE KIND IN THE BACK HALF OF THE TIFF AND WITH FUNDS, UH, GETTING TIRED IN THIS BUILDING WITH SOME OF THE RECENT EVENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO MOVE, FALL FORWARD IN A, IN A GOOD MANNER, ORGANIZED MANNER, BUT GET STUFF IN.

ALRIGHT, LET'S GO TO OUR ONLINE BOARD MEMBER AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL DO AROUND THE ROOM IN VIRTUAL.

SURE.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, MY NAME IS LUIS DE MAYO AND I MOVED BACK TO TEXAS IN DECEMBER OF 99.

, UH, BUT I LIVE, UH, AND I LIVE JUST OUTSIDE OF D DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

AND I'M THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE FOR, UH, TIF BOARDS.

SO I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING, UH, THE COUNTY ON ALL THE TIFS IN, IN DALLAS COUNTY.

UH, AND THIS IS ONE THAT I PARTICULARLY ENJOY, UH, AND HOPE TO CONTINUE SERVING ON THE SKILLMAN COURT OR TIFF.

THANK YOU, LUIS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE, UM, THE PEOPLE WITHOUT FACES ARE STAFF.

UH, WE'VE THE ATTORNEYS, MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

UM, SO WE, WE'LL SKIP INTRODUCTIONS ON THAT, BUT I WANNA INTRODUCE THE TWO PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.

YOU WANNA GO AHEAD, INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

YEAH, SO, UM, I'M STAFF.

UM, MY NAME IS PATRICK BLADES.

UM, I'M CHIEF PLANNER WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, UM, THIS APARTMENT HERE IN DALLAS.

UM, I'M IN CHARGE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY PLANNING.

UM, I'M ALSO, I GREW UP IN DALLAS, UH, A LITTLE BIT SOUTH OF HERE, UM, OVER IN FOUR HILLS.

I LIVE NOW MIDDLE FOUR HILLS WITH MY TWO CHILDREN.

UM, I HAD VERY WELL AWARE OF THIS AREA.

I'VE BEEN GOING TO A MEDALLION SHOPPING CENTER SINCE IT USED TO HAVE A DOLLAR THEATER LIKE 25 YEARS AGO.

UH, UM, SO, UM, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UM, LBJ SKILLMAN AREA PLAN FOR DALLAS.

ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT, BUT I'M HERE.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS, I'M COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART'S OFFICE.

HOW YOU DO THAT PART? UM, JUST READ IT.

PUBLIC COMMENTS PERTAINING TO AGENDA ITEMS FOUR THROUGH NINE.

UM, I DO NOT SEE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

OH, HI VICKY.

MS. VICKY TAYLOR HAS JOINED US FROM THE P UM, HOW ARE YOU DOING? HI.

UM, I SUPPOSE YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, BUT, UM, IF ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME.

OTHERWISE WE CAN MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ELECT THE VICE CHAIR FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AT THIS POINT, WE ARE TAKING NOMINATIONS.

YES.

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AND IF YOU WANNA VOLUNTEER YOURSELF, THAT WOULD BE OUR PRIMARY, UM, SUGGESTION.

SO A BOARD MEMBER WHO ROLLED OFF WAS OUR VICE CHAIR.

THIS IS JUST A POSITION IN CASE WE HAPPEN TO NEED TO CONVENE AT A PARTICULAR TIME THAT OUR CHAIR IS NOT AVAILABLE.

OTHERWISE, UM, THIS ISN'T THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS.

WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HAVE A BACKUP JUST IN CASE FLAT , SUPER QUICK SIDE.

UM, RACHEL IS TRYING TO GET IN OKAY.

THE MEETING, BUT IS STRUGGLING.

SO I DUNNO IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT CAN HELP.

OKAY.

ELIANA, IF, IF YOU CAN HEAR US, CAN YOU WORK TO GET, UM, MS. MCGOWAN IN? I'M NOT SURE IF SHE HAD THE SAME ISSUE AS LOUISE AND NOT HAVING THE PANELIST.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

LEMME KNOW IF YOU NEED HER CONTACT, BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE IT ON THAT PANELIST LIST.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

TALKING TO THE, THE, ALRIGHT, SO DOES ANYONE WANT STEP UP AND YES.

SO THANK YOU.

VOLUNTEER.

THANK YOU.

I VOLUNTEER ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

, MAYBE NEXT YEAR.

READY FOR THE NEXT AGENDA? NO, I NEED TO, OH, WE NEED TO ASK FOR, ASK FOR A, UH, MOTION SUPPORT.

MR. BOYD IS THE VICE DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

SECOND, I CAN'T MAKE THE MOTION.

MOTION AHEAD TO, UH, BILL.

SECOND, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? NO QUESTIONABLE THINGS ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER .

BE FULL BACKGROUND CHECK.

ALRIGHT, WELL IF THAT SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OF THOSE? CONGRATULATIONS, BILL.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME TO THE VICE CHAIR ROLE, THE BOARD.

THANK YOU.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS REVIEW AND CONSIDER THE MEETING RECORD OF THE DECEMBER 1ST, 2023 SKILLMAN CORRIDOR, TIF DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

UM, YOU HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES IN YOUR PACKET.

ANYONE HAS ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? OTHERWISE, I'M SURE THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION ON THAT.

SO, IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, SIGN.

VERY OFFICIAL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, GOOD MORNING MS. MCGOWAN.

HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, UM, FOR TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS OF TRINO.

THIS BEING TRUSTEE, WE NEED TO HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON TO COUNT TOWARDS, UM, A QUORUM ON THE BOARD.

SO IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TURN ON YOUR CAMERA, THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC.

WE'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

UM, OKAY.

WE HAVE OPTIONS NOW.

UM, I, ON THE AGENDA IS ANNUAL REPORT, I BELIEVE ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE MET.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF NEW BOARD MEMBERS THAT YOU PROBABLY WANT ME TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THAT.

UM, AND I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT NOW, OR WE CAN SPARE OUR FRIEND FROM PLANNING AN URBAN DESIGNED TO GO FIRST WITH THE 2014 LAND USE PLAN.

UM, IT JUST, DEPENDING ON IF YOU FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE OUT CONTEXT WITHOUT THE ANNUAL REPORT OR IF IT JUST STAND ALONE, BUT TO FINE.

I THINK YOU DEFINITELY WANT TO GO THROUGH THE REPORT.

YEAH, BUT LET, BUT YEAH.

WELL, OKAY, FIRST, OKAY, SO LET'S TAKE IT THE AGENDA ITEMS OUT OF ORDER.

SO WE'RE NOW GONNA GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, REVIEW THE 2014 LBJ SKILLMAN PLANNING INITIATIVE STUDY.

AND, UM, I'LL PROVIDE A, I WAS NOT PLANNING ON TAKING THIS OUTTA ORDER, BUT, UM, HERE IT GOES.

I'M GONNA JUST PULL A PAGE AS CONTEXT, UM, BEFORE TO TEE IT OFF TO MR. BLADES.

SO THAT LBJ

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SKILLMAN URBAN DESIGN INITIATIVE, UM, IT OCCURRED IN 2014 AND THERE WAS, UM, 20% MATCH BY THE TIFF, UM, WHEN THIS OCCURRED.

AND THIS IS KIND OF JUST A OVERARCHING GUIDING VISION DOCUMENT FOR THIS CORRIDOR AND OH, GOOD.

THANK YOU.

6 3, 3 1, 3.

OH, UH, VICKY, I THINK YOU'RE NOT ON MUTE.

SORRY, , YOU DIDN'T SAY LIKE IN A BIG MAC .

OH, I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THAT YOU PULLED TOGETHER A POWERPOINT.

WE HAD A LONG CBC MEETING LAST NIGHT, SO, OKAY.

WELL, MR. BLAKES HAS NOT SHARED THIS WITH ME, BUT I ASSUME THAT IT'S TERRIFIC AND THAT HE CAN KIND OF GIVE US THE OVERARCHING GUIDANCE TOWARDS THE PLAN.

SO IF YOU WANNA SPEND FIVE OR 10 MINUTES WALKING THROUGH IT, SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UM, I, I'M SORRY, DORSEY, I JUST GOT A NOTIFICATION THAT THE CHAIR WOULD NEED TO BE THE PERSON TO CHANGE THE AGENDA ORDER.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THAT MUST HAVE COME FROM THE ATTORNEYS, SO YOU, YOU'LL NEED TO ASK AND CALL FOR THE CHANGING OF THE AGENDA ORDER.

OKAY.

SO IN LIGHT OF MR. BLAKE'S PRESENCE WITH US, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

UM, WHERE ARE WE IN BETWEEN FOUR AND FIVE? YES.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS? OBJECTIONS TO THAT? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

HOPEFULLY THE ATTORNEYS ARE GOOD WITH THAT.

THE CHAIR HAS OFFICIALLY ASKED FOR THE REORDER OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

TAKEN AWAY.

SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS, UH, PATRICK BLAZE.

I'M CHIEF PLANNER WITH PLANNING EARLY DESIGN, OR SORRY, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES NOW.

UM, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

UM, I'M GONNA GO OVER, UM, THE, UM, LBJ SKILLMAN AREA PLAN.

UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO GO THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT QUICKLY.

UH, I WANNA ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, OUR COLLEAGUE FROM THE COUNTY, UH, LOUISE, WHO WAS A PART OF THIS PLANNING PROCESS WHEN HE WAS WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, UM, AS WELL AS TWO SITTING MEMBERS OF CBC, UM, COMMISSIONER HAMON AND COMMISSIONER, WHO IS ACTUALLY, UM, THE COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT 10, UM, AS A PRIVATE CITIZENS, THEY'RE PART OF THIS PLANNING PROCESS.

UM, SO, UH, GONNA GO OVER IT REALLY QUICKLY AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, A PLANNING PROCESS, AN AREA PLANNING PROCESS THAT FOCUSED ON BASICALLY THE AREA AROUND WHERE SKILLMAN DER AND LBJ ALL COME TOGETHER.

UM, IT STARTED IN 2011, UH, FINISHED UP IN 2014.

IT'S A PRETTY, UH, TRADITIONAL PLANNING PROCESS, AS IN IT TOOK A LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, DID A LOT OF RESEARCH THERE.

UM, DID COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, UM, ENDED UP CREATING SOME LAND USE VISION FOR THE AREA.

UM, THERE'S SOME RENDERINGS THAT ARE PART OF IT, SOME STREET NETWORKS AND STREETSCAPES.

UM, AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO OVER SOME OF THOSE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER, UM, BECAUSE THE PLAN IS, UM, A VERY BIG DOCUMENT.

UM, AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MORE THAN HAPPY TO DIVE INTO THOSE.

UM, A LITTLE BIT OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS, AGAIN, THIS IS AT 10, 12 YEARS OLDER, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND TOO MUCH TIME.

BUT IN SHORT, UM, THERE'S A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF RENTAL, UM, UH, RENTERS IN THE AREA.

THEY ALSO FIND A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF CHILDREN, A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF NON-FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS.

THAT MEANS BASICALLY THAT YOU ARE A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL OR THAT YOU ARE LIVING WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD WHO ARE NON-RELATIVES.

SO, GIRLFRIEND, BOYFRIEND, ROOMMATES, ALSO A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.

AND THEY ALSO DID SOME DETAILED WORK ON, UM, THE, THE TRAFFIC COUNTS IN THIS AREA.

AGAIN, THESE TRAFFIC CAMPS ARE 10 OR 12 YEARS OLD, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT WENT INTO UNDERSTANDING HOW PEOPLE WERE MOVING AROUND THIS AREA.

UM, AND THEIR ARM FIELDS.

UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS THAT OCCURRED WITH THIS.

UM, THEY TOOK THE PLACE THAT USUALLY YOU DO WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS, YOU KIND OF SEE SOME BOARDS THERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND SOME MAP THERE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THAT'S VISUAL PREFERENCE.

SO YOU SHOW PICTURES AND YOU SAY, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE, WHAT YOU'D NOT LIKE? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, WOULD PREFER VERSUS THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULDN'T, UH, AGAIN, QUICKLY TOUCHING.

SO YOU CAN'T SEE ANY OF THE WORDS ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALL.

BUT BASICALLY THIS SAYS, UH, WHEN THIS AREA, IF IT WERE TO REDEVELOP THE AREA AROUND GOING ONO AND LBJ, HOW WOULD YOU WANT IT TO REDEVELOP? UM, THE PURPLE, UM, THE BIGGEST PART THAT ABOUT 55%, THAT'S A MEDIAN DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES,

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APARTMENTS, OFFICES, RETAILS, THAT'S KIND OF A MEDIUM DENSITY.

UM, THE BLUISH COLOR THERE, THAT'S A HIGHER DENSITY.

THAT'S LIKE, UM, THE WEST VILLAGE IS THE EXAMPLE, I THINK.

YEAH, I'M UNSURE IF IT'S JUST ME, BUT, UM, WE'RE UNABLE TO HEAR.

SAME HERE.

I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING.

SAME.

I'M WITH YOU GUYS.

I'M SENDING SOMETHING IN THE CHAT.

UH, OH.

.

AND SO THAT'S NOT A, UM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT EITHER THE COMMUNITY OR STAFF OR ANYBODY, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST TECH STOP WASN'T THINKING ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS Y'ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT IT NOW, WE ARE MORE THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, WELL, OBJ EAST IS GONNA BE FINISHING UP HERE PRETTY QUICKLY.

THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN AS GILMAN AND ROB, THAT INTERSECTION CHANGES.

THERE'S GONNA BE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE RIGHT OF WAY TO REDEVELOP.

AND HOW DO YOU USE THAT REDEVELOPMENT AS A CATALYST, THAT SECTION.

SO THE WAY THE COMMUNITY THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND THE WAY STAFF AND CONSULTANT WORK ON IT SAID, OKAY, SO WE WANT SOME TYPE OF MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL, BUT WITH SOME RETAIL AND OFFICE KIND OF MID DENSITY STUFF.

AND SO THEY HAVE THESE YELLOW BLOCKS THAT ARE UP HERE.

UM, YOU CAN KIND OF ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IT'S KIND OF THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AGAIN, KIND OF THAT MID-RISE STYLE.

UM, THAT'S THREE AND FOUR STORIES.

UM, THEY HAVE SOME VERY NICE RENDERINGS THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER.

UM, AGAIN, THIS IS, THERE'S THE BRIDGE, UM, THAT'S GOING, OH, THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS GOING BRIDGE GOING OVER LBJ.

AND IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS IDEA THAT AS AN AREA REDEVELOPED AROUND THE DARK STATION, AROUND THE, THE, UH, THE CHANGE OF THE INTERSECTION THAT IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, HERE YOU HAVE THOSE RENDERINGS WHERE IT'S RETELLING THE GROUND FLOOR AND THEN THREE STORIES ABOVE, RIGHT? THAT KIND OF MIDDEN RESIDENT, UH, MIDDEN, RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL.

UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER WORK THAT FOCUSES ON THE STREETS SCAPES.

AND WHEN I PULLED OUT ONE STREETS SCAPES HERE, THIS IS GONNA BE ALL DEAL YET.

UM, BUT IT'S REALLY, UM, INDICATIVE OF A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE AROUND THE STREETSCAPES WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT HAVING THESE COMPLETE STREETS, THESE MULTIMODAL STREETSCAPES THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO ON THERE.

HOW DO YOU GET MORE SIDEWALKS, MORE CYCLE TRACKS, MORE BIKE LANES THAT ARE GONNA GO BE ON THESE STREETS WHILE STILL ENABLING THE CAPACITY, UM, FOR THE PRIVATE AUTOMOBILE.

SO THAT'S A REALLY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE AREA PLAN, UM, ENCAPSULATED, UH, 10 OR 12 YEARS AGO.

UM, WE'RE GONNA GO ONE MORE CONVERSATION, UM, BECAUSE WE DID ADOPT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, FOR DALLAS, UM, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

UM, IN SHORT, IT REALLY, UM, IT TOOK A LOOK AT THIS PLAN.

IT ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT, UM, WHAT THE MARKET CONDITIONS WERE THERE NOW, AS WELL AS PUBLIC INPUT.

AND A LOT OF IT IS REALLY JUST, UM, IT, IT BUILDS UPON THE PLAN AND IT REALLY ESSENTIALLY SAYS YES, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY DID 10 OR 12 YEARS AGO WAS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME VISION, UM, THAT IT IS FOR A MIXED USE.

UH, THE ONE SLIGHT CHANGE IS THAT WHERE THAT TRAIN STATION IS, UM, AND WHERE LV OR WHERE, UM, CROSSES OVER, UM, LVJ IS THAT, THAT'S THE AREA THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSE THAN THE AREA AROUND IT.

SO UP THERE ON THE MAP, THAT AREA THAT'S IN, UM, DARKER RED, THAT'S THE AREA THAT SAYS, WELL, YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GO HIGHER THAN THAT MID RANGE.

BUT THEN THE RED AND THE ORANGE, THAT'S STILL THAT MID RANGE THAT SAYS THAT'S WHERE YOU STILL WANT, UM, THAT FOUR AND FIVE STORIES, BUT AROUND L OR AROUND THE TRAIN STATION.

THAT, AGAIN, IT'S A PLAN.

SO IT NOT, THIS DOESN'T

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SAY YOU SHOULD DO THIS, IT SAYS IT'S POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD DO FIVE STORIES, BUT ALSO THAT YOU MIGHT GO EIGHT OR 10 STORIES IF THE APPROPRIATE PROJECT COMES IN.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL HAVE.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WHEN YOU SAID YOU, UM, YOU GUYS JUST FINISHED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, GET PUBLIC INPUT, WAS THAT NEW PUBLIC INPUT OR DID YOU JUST TAKE GRAB FROM THIS WHOLE DOCUMENT? SO WE TOOK INPUT FROM, BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD A PLANNING PROCESS, WE ALWAYS WANTED TO HONOR THAT PLANNING PROCESS THAT WAS DONE BEFOREHAND.

SO WE TOOK THAT, AND THEN WE WENT BACK AFTER AND WE SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE FOUND.

MM-HMM .

IS THIS STILL THE CASE? MM-HMM .

AND IN THIS SITUATION WAS, YEAH, PRETTY MUCH JUST WITH THAT ONE CAVEAT OF, OKAY, WELL IF YOU'RE REALLY GONNA GO HIGHER, OKAY.

THE TRAIN STATION IS WHERE YOU GO HIGHER BECAUSE THAT'S ON THE HIGHWAY, THAT'S ON THE TRAIN STATION.

THAT'S DOD THAT'S AWAY FROM MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE A TOWER IN SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD.

THAT'S WHERE YOU SHOULD PUT, CAN WE NO LONGER HEAR THE PRESENTATION? YEAH, IT DOESN'T APPEAR.

I CAN'T HEAR IT EITHER.

UM, YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT.

I'VE BEEN PUTTING SOMETHING IN THE CHAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE READING THAT.

LOVING THEM.

OH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BACK.

HI, WE'RE BACK.

OH, HI MS. WARREN.

THANK YOU.

I'M SO SORRY YOU DIDN'T GET THAT PANEL'S INVITE.

WE'RE JUST GETTING INTO THE MEAT OF OUR AGENDA.

WE HAVE ASKED MR. BLADES TO, UM, STOP SHARING HIS SCREEN BECAUSE WE THINK THAT MAY HAVE PULLED US AWAY FROM, UM, THE ONLINE ABILITY.

SO WE ARE BACK.

THANK YOU.

UM, LET'S TAKE A QUICK, I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD, MS. MC, WHY DON'T WE DO, AND I HATE TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT MS. MCGOWAN HAS HER HANDS UP.

YOU WANNA INTRODUCE HERSELF AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE, UH, FOR THE MEETING AS WELL.

I AM A TRUSTEE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR RISD AND SERVE IN DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH IS OUR LAKE HIGHLANDS COMMUNITY.

UM, I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT, UM, I KNOW YOU, YOU DID THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE, AND WHICH I THINK IT'S A CRITICAL PART AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, BUT IS THIS PROPOSAL AND THIS PLAN FOR UNDEVELOPED LAND, AND MAYBE YOU'VE ALREADY STATED THAT MAYBE I CAME IN LATE, BUT IS IT ALL UNDEVELOPED LAND? AND IF IT IS, GREAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH CURRENT LANDLORDS, UM, WITH CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AND HOW WE, HOW ARE YOU GUYS COMMUNICATING WITH THEM AND WHAT DOES THE FUTURE LOOK LIKE FOR THE CURRENT LANDLORDS AND RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIVING WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD TAKE PLACE? AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE, THE PLAN THAT I TALKED ABOUT, UH, FROM 2011 TO 2014, UH, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND THERE WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE REALIGNMENT OF THE ROADS.

BUT THIS IS A FULLY BUILT OUT, UM, LOCATION.

AND SO THE PLAN ACTUALLY DELVES INTO, UM, IT DOES AN INVENTORY OF WHO OWNS THE PARCELS AND ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, AGAIN, THAT'S 10 OR 12 YEARS OLD.

SO IT, IT IS ADDED A LITTLE BIT OUT OF DATE BECAUSE THAT WAS WHEN THE PLAN WAS CREATED.

AND WE HAVEN'T DONE AN AREA PLAN SINCE THEN.

UM, AS FAR AS, UM, REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT AREA WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIVING THERE.

UM, AS FAR AS LAND USE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO HAVE TOOLS TO ADDRESS THAT POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

UM, BUT IN RECOGNIZING THAT, UM, WE WORK WITH HOUSING AND WHEN YOU HAVE REDEVELOPMENT OF, UM, 40 OR 50-YEAR-OLD AGING GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS, THEY HAVE TOOLS TO HELP, UM, PREVENT OR THEY HAVE TOOLS TO ADDRESS UNWANTED DISPLACEMENT.

SO IF THOSE AREAS DO REDEVELOP, THERE ARE TOOLS IN WHICH YOU SAY, IF YOU WANNA STAY HERE AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THE NEW STRUCTURES THAT ARE BUILT HERE, THE NEW HOUSING GETS BUILT HERE, HERE ARE THE WAYS IN

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WHICH WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT.

UM, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PLAN DID TALK ABOUT WAS THE NUMBER OF, UM, THE HIGH PERCENTAGE OF CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN THAT LIVE HERE.

UM, AND SO I, I DON'T BELIEVE THE PLAN SIMPLY TALKS ABOUT IT, BUT I MEAN, THAT'S AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WOMEN THAT LIVE HERE THAT GO TO SCHOOL IN THIS AREA.

UM, AND SO IF THIS AREA DOES REDEVELOP, UH, PLANNING STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE WORK WITH HOUSING TO ADDRESS ANY UNWANTED DISPLACEMENT, UM, OR POTENTIAL UNWANTED DISPLAY PLACEMENT IN THE AREA.

I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS WELL WOULD PROBABLY BE REALLY INTERESTED IN KNOWING WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA, WHAT THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE TO BE LOSING FAMILIES AND STU KIDS, UM, IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO, UM, WHICH IS A REALLY LARGE CONCERN FOR US, BECAUSE THAT AFFECTS US FINANCIALLY OVERALL.

MM-HMM .

SO, UM, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

AND YOU HAD A QUESTION REALLY QUICKLY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MM-HMM .

UM, AND ONE THING THAT I WOULD ADD ON TO THAT, THE ONE SLIGHT CHANGE, AND YOU CALL IT SLIGHTLY, YOU CALL IT BIG, BUT THE CHANGE FROM THE PLAN TO, FOR DALLAS WAS THE INTENSITY OF SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE TRAIN STATION.

AND PART OF THAT IS INDICATIVE OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS THERE ON THE GROUND, BUT ALSO JUST THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT SAYS, UH, WHERE THAT TOLD US IF WE HAVE A THREE STORY TALL GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT, IF THAT GOES AWAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE IT GO AWAY TO BUILD GROUND FLOOR RETAIL AND THREE STORIES OF APARTMENTS ON TOP OF IT.

THAT THAT DOESN'T ECONOMICALLY WORK.

WE NEED TO GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.

SO THAT'S THE SIX OR THE EIGHT FEET OR SIX OR THE EIGHT STORIES.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST HERE, THAT'S JUST THROUGHOUT DALLAS, THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHWEST.

SO KIND OF A COMMENT IN A QUESTION.

SO CLAIMS A DECADE OLD ISN'T, UM, I'VE BEEN ON TIFF FOR FIVE YEARS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT.

WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DOING SIGNIFICANT PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTION IN THIS EXACT AREA FOR FOUR YEARS.

UM, WE'VE HAD PRESENTED A COUPLE TIMES THE PLANS FOR SKILLMAN THE STREETS CASE FAR AS SKILLMAN.

I'M JUST, I'M JUST SOUTHWEST CORNER IS VACANT, HAS BEEN VACANT.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, SUSAN AND I WERE TALKING, WE THINK SOMEONE MAY HAVE PURCHASED IT.

IT WELL, WHERE'S THE PLAN BEEN AND HOW'S THE PLAN IN ACTION NOW? SO, UM, I KNOW THAT'S A HARD QUESTION.

SORRY.

WELL, TRYING TO ANSWER THE BEST I CAN.

UM, I HAVE BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT TWO AND A HALF YEARS, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS NOT PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS EVER AGAIN.

UM, WELL, I CAN PROBABLY HELP YOU OUT THERE IF YOU WANT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S NOT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT IN THIS, IN THE PLANNING AREA.

MM-HMM .

LIKE THE, THE, THE OLD, UH, BANKSTON NISSAN HAS CHANGED OVER, BUT THAT'S FAR SOUTH OF HERE.

AND SO AS FAR AS LAND USE GUIDANCE, THERE HASN'T BEEN, THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU WOULD GO BACK TO THE PLAN TO SAY, WHAT DID THE PLANS SAY? UM, IN PART PROBABLY BECAUSE SAID WE'RE GONNA REVIEW O, BJ AND EVERY LANDLORD WAS LIKE, WELL, WE WAIT FOR THAT.

RIGHT? BUT IF THERE'S INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, BUT JUST SOME BACKGROUND FOR YOU AS WELL, UM, IT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF YOUR FORMER LEADERS.

UM, THE FORMER HEAD OF PLANNING HERE IN THE CITY THERE, O'DONNELL, WHO PULLED ME ASIDE AT A MEETING BACK IN 2000 8, 9, 10, WHENEVER IT WAS, AND SAID, YOU KNOW, IN, AS WE WERE GAINING SUCCESS AND MOMENTUM WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE INTERCHANGE FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT, SHE SAID, ONCE YOU PUT THAT IN PLACE, THE DEVELOPERS WILL, WILL COME AND WILL WANT TO REDEVELOP THOSE PROPERTIES.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, THEY WILL DO IT FOR YOU.

SO THE COMMUNITY SAID, AH, GOOD TIP.

MM-HMM .

SO, UH, WE WORKED WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UH, TO GET THEIR FUNDING THROUGH SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT AND THE T BOARD WAS ASKED TO PUT A MATCH TOGETHER AND THAT, THAT IS WHAT KICKED OFF THE STUDY.

AND WE DID THE PLAN PUTTING IT IN PLACE,

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SO AS AN AREA PLAN, WHICH IS ALSO AN ADJUNCT TO, FOR DALLAS MM-HMM .

UM, AND IN SO THAT IT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED SO THAT WHEN DEVELOPMENT CAME TO THAT AREA, WE WOULD HAVE A BASELINE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY PREFERS.

SO SURE ENOUGH, WE, HERE WE ARE TODAY, AND SO IT IS BEEN SITTING ON THE SHELF.

YES.

IT HASN'T BEEN PULLED OFF THE SHELF FOR USE, UM, BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE CAN SEE STARTING OUT.

ALRIGHT, SO THIS PLAN IS MORE OF A GUARDRAIL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN A PROACTIVE, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE.

OKAY.

THAT'S PROBABLY GREAT WAY TO SAY IT.

SO, RELATED QUESTION, IS THERE ANY PLAN TO UPDATE THIS? UM, SO WE DO NOT HAVE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT AREAS TO SPECIFICALLY WORK IN, UM, FORWARD.

SO, WELL LEMME REPHRASE THAT.

SO FORWARD DALLAS CREATED AND SAID, OKAY, HERE'S YOUR, YOUR VISION, YOUR GUARDRAILS.

AND WHEN THOSE GUARDRAILS DON'T MATCH WHAT THE ZONING IS, WE NEED TO GO OUT AND CHANGE THAT ZONING.

UM, BUT MOST OF WHAT FORD DALLAS DID WITH THAT RESPECT WAS MORE HEAVY INDUSTRY, NEXT DOOR, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IN WEST DALLAS AND JBI IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.

AND IT SAID, CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE GROUND TO, BECAUSE THE VISION DOESN'T MATCH WHAT THE ZONING IS.

UM, IT ALSO TALKED ABOUT OUR CORRIDORS AND THE FACT THAT, UM, RETAIL AND OFFICE ON OUR CORRIDORS ARE, IS NOT WHAT IT, IT'S NOT WHAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S CHANGED A LOT, NOT JUST IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, IN THE PAST 20 YEARS.

AND SO IT SAYS IN OUR CORRIDORS, THOSE NEED TO BE MORE MIXED USE AS OPPOSED TO JUST COMMERCIAL OR JUST OFFICE.

UM, BUT THERE IS SKILLMAN AND ELIA AND ABRAMS AND FERGUSON AND GARLAND AND FOREST AND MARSH AND SO MANY DIFFERENT CORRIDORS THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN IMPETUS TO UPDATE THIS SPECIFICALLY UNLESS GIVEN THE DIRECTION TO SAY WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT.

UM, DID THE EXPANSION OF 6, 7, 5 NOT INVEST MOVING AT ALL? UM, IT, IT DOES, WELL, IT DIDN'T CHANGE ZONING.

OKAY.

UM, IT DOES BECAUSE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT IT DOESN'T SERVICE LINE.

YEAH.

THE, THE PROPERTY THAT YOU MENTIONED IS STILL, IT'S, UM, ZONED, UM, MC ONE, WHICH IS A MIXED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH, UM, DOESN'T ALLOW RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUILDING MIXED USE BUILDING THAT HAS FIVE STORIES OF RESIDENTIAL, IT WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

NOW THE AREA PLAN WOULD SAY THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

UM, AND WOULD SAY THAT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT THAT WOULD BE A PRIVATE PARTY DEVELOPER DRIVEN PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO THE COMMUNITY OR TO BOARD SAYING, WE WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING PROACTIVELY TO ENCOURAGE A CERTAIN TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IF A CITY WERE TO TAKE THAT ON.

I THINK ANOTHER CONSIDERATION, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

MM-HMM.

BUT, UH, DEFINITELY THIS, THIS DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE DARK PROPERTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF UNUTILIZED LAND THERE THAT'S NOT BEING ASPHALT.

NOW I THINK DARDEN'S DONE STATIONARY LAND AS THIS WAS DONE BE INCORPORATED.

THEY'VE, YEAH.

AND WE TALKED, UM, WE DID, BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THEY IS, EVEN DART'S ORIGINAL PLAN IS A SPOKEN WHEEL.

SO IT WAS GET EVERYBODY INTO DOWNTOWN DALLAS 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE LIVE AND THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE WORK, RIGHT? AND THEY'VE REALIZED THAT THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE.

AND SO THEY WANT TO MAKE MORE OF THEIR STATIONS, UM, ACTIVE PLACES, DESTINATIONS.

YES.

AND SO TALKING WITH COMMISSIONER, UM, HOUSEWRIGHT, HE SAID HE THOUGHT THIS AREA WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR, UM, A JOB CENTRIC TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.

AS IN YOU PUT A CALL CENTER OR A HOSPITAL OR SOMETHING THERE AT THAT STATION, WE, THAT PROVIDES JOBS IN THAT AREA.

UM, BUT I WOULD LET HIM MAKE THAT THAT CASE.

UM, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, UM, THAT OUR PROPERTY, UM, WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY.

MR, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YOU WERE RAISING, NOT RAISING HAND ? WELL, AS I, AS I LISTEN, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, AS I LISTEN TO A LOT OF THE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS THAT WERE WERE RAISED WERE BEING ANSWERED, BUT I, I WANTED TO THANK, UH, PATRICK FOR, FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS PLAN BACK MORE THAN 10 YEARS AGO NOW.

UM, AND YES, A LOT HAS CHANGED AND I, I THINK THE, THE QUESTIONS I HAD WERE, AND WHICH WERE ADDRESSED AS HOW THIS WAS TRANSLATED INTO THE FORWARD DALLAS PLAN, UH, AND USING THAT MOVING FORWARD.

UH,

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SO THANK YOU PATRICK FOR ADDRESSING THAT, UM, AS THIS, THE BASE PLAN NOW FOR LOOKING AT ZONING REQUESTS MOVING FORWARD, UM, AND THAT YES, THIS DOES ACT AS GUARDRAILS BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VISION FOR YOUR AREA, SOMEONE CERTAINLY WILL GO AND IMPLEMENT THEIRS.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THIS WAS TIMELY TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.

YEAH.

AS WE GET INTO ANNUAL REPORT, WE'LL TALK KIND OF, UM, LBJ NEARING COMPLETION AND KIND OF TAKING UP, UM, DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE A REMINDER OF WHAT THE PLAN SAYS.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR MR. BLADE BEFORE WE EXCUSE HIM? AND I'M HAPPY TO STICK AROUND.

I'M ALSO HAPPY TO STEP OUT IF YOU WANNA HAVE A CONVERSATION.

WELL, WE, WE PUT PUT YOU FIRST THINKING YOU DIDN'T WANNA SIT AROUND, BUT WHATEVER YOU WANT.

SO ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR CHRISTMAS PARTY FOR APARTMENT AND THERE'S A NECKLACE WITH LIGHTS AND THERE'S A WHOLE BRIDGE HEAD I HAVE, BUT I WAS LIKE, THAT'S PROBABLY THOSE WACKY CITY.

ALRIGHT.

IS THAT IT? WITH THAT? DO YOU WANNA CALL AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX? OKAY.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX, REVIEW AND CONSIDER THE SKILL QUARTER DISTRICT ANNUAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

2024.

AND DO YOU GONNA WALK US THROUGH THAT? I'M, I USUALLY LIKE MY CHAIR TO BE IN KICKING DISTANCE FROM ME, SO I KNOW.

OH, OH GOOD.

YOU'RE JUST MOVING SCREENS.

I THOUGHT WE LOST AGAIN.

OKAY.

I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO PULL UP THE ANNUAL REPORT.

UM, SO I WILL, BECAUSE WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN A WHILE, WE HAVE SOME NEW FACES.

I'LL, I'LL MARCH THROUGH THIS.

LET ME KNOW IF I'M GOING TOO FAST, TOO SLOW.

UM, TO START OUT WITH, I WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS CONSIDERED A DRAFT REPORT.

UM, AND SO WE WOULD ASK THAT ANY MOTION YOU MAKE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM THAT IT CAN BE MADE SUBJECT TO THE ABILITY TO MAKE MINOR EDITS.

ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT IS OUR ACCOUNTING TEAM TYPICALLY DURING DECEMBER, GETS ALL OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, UM, SQUARED AWAY.

AND SO THOSE ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET, NOT THAT MUCH, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT NUMBER IS GONNA BE ADJUSTED.

UM, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, APPROVAL REVIEWS AS WE'LL, LOOK TO THE CITY ATTORNEYS, TO MY DIRECTORS.

SO THERE'LL STILL BE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS, ANYTHING MATERIAL, YOU CERTAINLY WILL KNOW ABOUT IT.

I CAUGHT A COUPLE MISTAKES THIS MORNING DESPITE THE FACT I THOUGHT I HAD IT ALL IN GOOD SHAPE.

SO WITH THAT, ALRIGHT, THE MISSION STATEMENT MR. RE POINTED OUT, THESE ARE KIND OF STA AND THAT'S BECAUSE THIS, UM, UH, ANNUAL REPORT, UM, STARTED WHEN THE TIP DISTRICT STARTED BACK IN 2006.

AND SO THE TIF DISTRICT PLAN IS OUR LOCAL DOCUMENTS THAT IT'S KIND OF THE, THE BE ALL OF HOW WE OPERATE.

AND THAT COMES DOWN FROM CHAPTER THREE 11 STATE LAW AND INTERPRETED ON THE LOCAL LEVEL INTO THE PLAN.

AND THIS ANNUAL REPORT TAKES THAT PLAN AND KIND OF LAYS OUT WHERE WE'RE, SO SOME OF IT IS VERY STATIC BECAUSE WE'RE JUST ADDING ON.

SO, UM, REALLY WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR AND KIND OF THE NEAR TERM STUFF.

BUT I'LL TRY TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE BIGGER THINGS AND THE BROADER SENSE OF THE DISTRICT.

UM, SO THE DISTRICT IS DUE TO TERMINATE ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2035.

THERE IS A CAVEAT TO THAT AS WELL.

IT IS THE SOONER OF REACHING THE BUDGET COUNT OR DECEMBER 31ST, 2035.

AND AS WE LOOK THROUGH THE BUDGET AND THE PROJECTIONS, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING HIGHLIGHTED HERE.

SO, UM, ON PAGE, UM, SO ON PAGE SIX, UM, WE START TO GET INTO KIND OF THE CHARTING OF THE PROJECTS.

AND THIS IS SPLIT BY PROJECTS THAT THE TIFF PARTICIPATED IN.

AND THEN THOSE THAT WE DIDN'T, WE LIKE TO TAKE SOME CREDIT IN OUR TIF DISTRICT PLANS TO SAY WITHOUT THE TIF.

UM, SOME OF THIS WOULD NOT OCCUR.

UM, BUT TO SET THE STAGE FOR THAT, THIS TIFF UM, DISTRICT DID HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, BACK IN MARCH OF 2023.

SO OUTSIDE OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT, UM, THAT ADDED ON 19 PARCELS

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AND ALLOWED FOR THE FOREST A DELIO PROJECT.

UM, THAT PROJECT IS FUNDED PARTIALLY WITH TIF FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF JUST OVER $5.51 MILLION.

UM, AND THAT IS CONSIDERED A MULTIPURPOSE FACILITY AS WELL AS A PARK.

AND I THINK I, I'LL GET TO THE, UH, WHERE WE ARE IN THAT IN A MOMENT.

BUT AS FAR AS THE PROJECTS, UM, KIND OF THE DEVELOPER DRIVEN PROJECTS, UM, WE'VE, UM, FUNDED WITH TIFF INVESTMENT $16.85 MILLION, AND THAT'S LEVERAGED ABOUT $69 MILLION IN ACTUAL VALUE EVERY YEAR.

WE UPDATE THAT, UM, VALUE ESTIMATE TO ACTUAL TAXABLE VALUE.

AND THEN ON PAGE SEVEN QUESTION, SORRY.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

UH, SO THE TIFF DIS DISTRICT DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN LAKE ISLANDS TOWN CENTER PHASE TWO AT ALL.

NO.

THERE WAS A TERMINATION OF SOME OF THE INITIAL AGREEMENTS.

UM, YES.

SO DEVELOPER WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE RIGHT.

CONTROL.

YES.

YEAH.

SO, UH, LIKE SAY, YOU KNOW, OUR MONEY COMES WITH STRING AND THERE'S, IT DOES IT AND DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO, TO USE OUR FUNDS? UM, SOMETIMES WE APPRECIATE HAVING SOME FUNDING IN THERE TO HAVE SOME AFFORDABILITY AND SOME DESIGN CONTROL, BUT WE CAN'T, CAN'T MAKE THEM.

SO I WANNA NOTE, UM, ON THE BOTTOM OF PAGE SEVEN, THE OLD GOOSE PROJECT, I'M SURE ALL YOU KNOW, IS NOW CALLED HAVEN WOOD HEIGHTS.

IT'S 36, UM, HOMES.

I'M FROM SITE WORK UNDERWAY TO UNDER CONSTRUCTION MM-HMM .

BECAUSE THAT'S OUR MORE TYPICAL LANGUAGE.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A ROBERT ELLIOT CUSTOM HOMES BETWEEN 2,003,000 SQUARE FEET, KEEPING THE SAME NUMBER OF LOTS.

SO IN TOTAL ABOUT $671 MILLION WORTH OF INVESTMENT.

AND THESE ARE WHAT WE KIND OF CAPTURE AS SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS.

WE KNOW THAT OTHER THINGS HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT THAT MAY NOT BE CAPTURED AS FAR AS, UH, MIXED INCOME HOUSING.

UM, WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE PROJECT SUBJECT TO THAT AFFORDABILITY THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS OFFICE AND TO ALL OF OUR PROJECTS.

THAT'S THE HAVEN.

UM, WE, OUR, OUR MONITORING TEAM GOES OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING THEIR 20% AFFORDABILITY.

HOWEVER, THEY STILL HAVE NOT PAID PAYMENT.

THERE WAS STILL SOME OUTSTANDING ISSUES.

THAT'S BEEN YEARS.

SO, UM, PA STARTING ON PAGE EIGHT IS OUR CONSISTENT INITIATIVE.

SO THESE ARE KIND OF NON-DEVELOPER DRIVEN PROJECTS, MORE THE DISTRICT WIDE FUNDS.

THEY, UM, THIS TIP DISTRICT HAS BEEN PRETTY ACTIVE WITH THESE TYPE OF INITIATIVES.

NOT ALL ARE, AND THERE A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE LEVERAGING OTHER, I'M SORRY, I HAVE MY BACK TO YOU GUYS.

THIS IS ALWAYS, UM, WE'RE LEVERAGING OTHER, UM, JURISDICTIONS FUNDS, WHETHER THAT'S FROM THE COUNTY, FROM COG TEXT OUT, WHATEVER IT IS.

IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR US TO INFUSE SOME MONEY, UM, TO LEVERAGE PROJECTS.

SO AT THE TOP OF PAGE NINE IS WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE, UM, LAND USE PLAN.

UM, THERE'S BEEN, UM, HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS FROM LAKE HIGHLANDS TOWN CENTER TO THE EXISTING WHITE ROCK CREEK TRAIL.

UM, THE TIP PARTICIPATED IN THAT.

UM, WE'VE ALSO DONE THE, SOME MEDIAN IMPROVEMENTS AND SOME EXTENSIONS OF TRAILS.

UM, BOTTOM OF PAGE NINE IS, UM, OUR, OUR DREDGING PROJECT.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE TIP BOARD TACKLED.

A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UM, THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES HAD $1.6 MILLION TO DREDGE THE WATER CREST PARK, UH, POND, WHICH IS AT LAKE HIGHLANDS TOWN CENTER.

THAT WAS NOT SUFFICIENT TO GET THE JOB DONE.

THEY ASKED US TO MATCH THAT.

UM, SO THE TIFF PUT IN $1.6 MILLION.

UM, AND ALSO SAID, PLEASE DON'T COME BACK TO US AND ASK FOR ANY MORE.

BUT THAT PROJECT WAS COMPLETED, UH, DURING THE FISCAL YEAR.

UH, SO ALL THAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE.

UM, WE ALSO, UH, DEDICATED $60,000 TO A STUDY THAT WOULD LOOK AT, UM, HOW TO HAVE LESS MAINTENANCE IN THE POND IN THE FUTURE.

UM, THAT STUDY IS COMPLETE.

IT DOES HAVE SOME IDEAS.

UM, SOME OF IT IS TAKING IT BACK TO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE NATURAL STATE THAT WOULD TAKE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL DOLLARS THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW TO IMPLEMENT.

BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, AND AS THE STILL SO STARTS TO ACCUMULATE AGAIN, WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT,

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AND PROBABLY NOT THE TIF BOARD, BUT DWU AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.

ANOTHER INITIATIVE THAT, UH, THE TIF BOARD TOOK ON WAS AN ASK FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO HELP WITH SOME STREET LIGHTING AND FIBER OPTICS.

UM, THAT CAME THROUGH KINDA THE SAFETY PLAN THAT THE MAYOR DID.

THE LIGHTS ARE ALL, UM, IN OPERATION.

THE, UH, FIBER OPTICS THAT WERE MADE PART OF THAT ARE ON, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT COMPLETE BECAUSE I GUESS THERE'S A TIE IN TO LB AT LBJ EAST.

SO THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT TO COMPLETE ALL THE FIBER OPTICS.

ALL RIGHT.

AS FAR AS THAT FOREST LIO PROJECT, WE HAVE, UM, SENT THE MONEY OVER TO THE PARK DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE NOT STARTED DRAWING DOWN.

THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF IN-HOUSE WORK.

THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS, UM, THE PARK SIDE IS GONNA GET DONE FASTER THAN THE PROGRAMMATIC BUILDING SIDE.

UM, I THINK THAT THEY HAVE NOW COME TO TERMS WITH WHERE THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE POCKETS CAN GO WITHIN THAT FACILITY WHERE THE LIBRARY COMPONENT, THE OFFICE OF CULTURAL AFFAIRS WHERE EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE SITUATED.

UM, SO THE REPORT FROM THE PARK DEPARTMENT IS THAT THE, THAT DESIGN OF THE REC CENTER, THE FACILITY ITSELF IS ONGOING.

THEY HOPE TO HAVE A DESIGN COMPLAINT APRIL, 2025 AND CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN 2025, COMPLETION SPRING 2026.

AS FAR AS THE PARK ITSELF, THEY'RE WAITING FOR SOME EQUIPMENT TO COME IN AND THEY HOPE TO HAVE THAT COMPLETE BY AUGUST OF 2025.

ALRIGHT, THE NEXT SEVERAL PAGES ARE, UM, CHARTS OF ALL THOSE INITIATIVES THAT WERE IN TEXT FORM BEFORE.

SO WE'RE GONNA SKIP THROUGH THAT ON PAGE 13 AS A PROJECT MAP.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MISTAKES I CAUGHT THIS MORNING IS THAT, UM, WHERE 14 IS TAGGED, IT STILL SAYS GOOSE AT WHITE ROCK VALLEY.

SO I'LL GET THAT UPDATED BEFORE IT GOES TO, IT'S ALL TRASH.

SO I GET THAT UPDATED.

ALRIGHT, LET'S HIT THE NUMBERS.

SO, UM, PAGE 14 IS THE VALUE AND INCREMENT REVENUE SUMMARY.

UM, THIS IS A VERY LARGE DISTRICT.

IT COVERS A LOT OF PARCELS.

THE VALUE 2024 VALUE IS OVER $1.6 BILLION.

THAT INCLUDES THE 19 PARCELS THAT WERE ADDED IN 2023.

UM, THE INCREASE FROM 2023 VALUES IS 7.8%, UM, WHICH IS PRETTY HEALTHY.

AND THAT WILL RESULT IN WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE COLLECTED.

2024 VALUES GET COLLECTED IN 2025, UH, $10.946 MILLION.

UM, JUST TO NOTE, UM, IDS PARTICIPATION IS GONNA CAP OUT THIS YEAR.

UM, THEY HAVE A CAP OF $16,577,358 WAS, UM, BASICALLY AN ASSUMPTION FROM A $10 MILLION NPD, BUT IT IS WRITTEN INTO THE LOCAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

AND THAT WILL BE, UM, UM, WITH THAT 2025 COLLECTIONS, THE CITY PARTICIPATES IN THIS TIF DISTRICT AT LEVEL OF 85%.

SO THAT MEANS OF ALL OF THE, UM, INCREMENTAL OR THE TAXES COLLECTED, 15% GOES TO THE CITY GENERAL FUND OR WHEREVER IT GOES.

AND 85% GETS COLLECTED INTO THE TIP DISTRICT.

THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES AT A LEVEL OF 55% EACH YEAR.

RISD WAS, UH, OR UNTIL, UM, UNTIL NOW PARTICIPATING IT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR DEBT SERVICE PORTION OF THE TAX RATE, WHICH IS ABOUT 35% OF THEIR TAXES.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, AS I DESCRIBED, A LOT OF THIS COMES FROM THE PLAN ITSELF.

AND SO THESE OBJECTIVES AND SUCCESS INDICATORS COME FROM THE PLAN.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAKING OUR WAY THROUGH HITTING THOSE GOALS.

ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, THE RETAIL SIDE, UM, THERE'S INFORMATION IN HERE, UM, ABOUT RISD, UM, WHICH I, THIS WAS INTERESTING AS MS. MCGOWAN, UH, WAS TALKING ABOUT, IS TO TALK ABOUT THE STABILITY OF THE LOCAL SCHOOLS

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AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WHEN, UH, LAKE HIGHLANDS TOWN CENTER, UM, CAME TO FRUITION.

AND IT SAYS THAT OCCUPANCY LEVELS WERE, WERE LOW AT THE TIME.

AND SO THERE WERE 110 UNIT RELOCATION SPECIFICALLY TRACKED IN AUGUST OF 2007.

AND 78% OF THOSE RELOCATED TO ANOTHER COMPLEX WITHIN RISD.

SO WE DO TRY TO TRACK ALL OF THAT AND BE SENSITIVE, UM, TO ANY NEEDED RELOCATIONS.

UM, THE DART RIDERSHIP, UM, WAS IMPORTANT AS FAR AS THE PLAN IS CONCERNED AND HOW THAT RIDERSHIP LOOKS.

SO PAGE 18 TALKS ABOUT THAT.

OF COURSE, WE HAD A HUGE DIP DURING COVID.

UM, IT'S STARTING TO RISE AGAIN.

THAT, THAT RIDERSHIP.

I WANNA HIT, UM, THE MIDDLE OF PAGE 17.

UM, THE, UH, BUDGET CAPACITY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO COLLECT EVERY YEAR.

UM, THE BUDGET CAPACITY, THE BUDGET IS $49.7 MILLION IN NET PRESENT VALUE.

WE'VE ALREADY COLLECTED 36.6 MILLION IN NPV.

THAT'S 73.6% OF THE GOAL.

AND SO EACH YEAR WHEN WE GET NEW VALUES, WE'RE THE STAFF IS LOOKING AT PROJECTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAKING ASSUMPTIONS OF CONSERVATIVE GROWTH, AGGRESSIVE GROWTH.

AND WHEN OR WHEN DO WE THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA KIND OF CAP OUT AT THIS NP B LEVEL.

WHEN I LOOK AT IT, I THINK WE COULD REACH THAT CAP IN 2028, WHICH WOULD BE 2029 COLLECTIONS.

IF WE HAD REALLY GOOD YEARS, IT COULD BE EVEN BEFORE THAT.

UM, AND THAT EVEN STARTS TO SLOW DOWN NOW THAT RASD WILL BE OUT AND THEN EVENTUALLY COUNTY ONLY PARTICIPATES THROUGH 2027 ACCORDING TO THEIR INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.

SO EVEN WITH THAT KIND OF LESSENING OF PARTICIPATION, UM, I THINK THAT WE COULD, UM, CAP OUT, REACH OUR FULL BUDGET BY 2028 ISH.

INTERESTINGLY, I WENT BACK TO SOME OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, THE PROPOSED DURATION OF THE SPELMAN COURT.

TIF DISTRICT IS 30 YEARS.

IT'S SCHEDULED TO TERMINATE DECEMBER 31ST, 2035.

AND IT TALKS ABOUT THAT 85 PARTICIPATION AND 55 BY THE COUNTY.

AND THEN IT SAYS BASED ON CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTIONS, THE TIF BUDGET IS EXPECTED TO BE REACHED IN 2026 AFTER 19 YEARS OF COLLECTIONS.

SO IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING, WE'VE HAD THE, WE'VE HAD TWO THINGS OCCUR.

EITHER WE'RE REALLY AGGRESSIVE IN WHAT WE ARE HOPING TO COLLECT AND WE NEVER GET THERE.

I MEAN WE'RE LOOKING 20, 25, 30 YEARS OUT DEPENDING ON THE LENGTH OF THE TIFF DISTRICT.

SO SOMETIMES WE'RE HOPING FOR THE BEST 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANNA LEAVE MONEY ON THE TABLE BASICALLY 'CAUSE YOU CAN COLLECT, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SETTING FORTH FIRST, WHAT DO WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH? HOW MUCH MONEY WILL THAT TAKE? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE US TO GET THERE? AND SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE PROJECTING WE HAVE REALLY HIGH HOPES AND WE NEVER REACH THAT BUDGET CAP.

IN OTHER INSTANCES, THIS HAPPENED TO AS WELL.

THINGS ARE GOING GREAT, THERE'S A TON OF PARCELS.

I MEAN YOU TAKE ONE SHOPPING CENTER THAT WASN'T THERE, YOU KNOW, WALMART AND ALL THAT HUGE GROWTH.

AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED THAT WE MIGHT GET THERE BEFOREHAND AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT, UM, THAT WILL LIKELY OCCUR.

SO QUESTION ON THIS.

SO I WAS LOOKING, COMPARING THIS ONE TO LAST YEAR.

SO IT SAYS THAT WE ARE NOW AT, UM, AT ONE THAT WE'RE AT $36 MILLION.

AND I LOOK AT LAST YEAR'S WE WERE AT $32 MILLION, BUT WHEN YOU WENT UP TO THE POINT YOU HIT EARLIER, WE COLLECTED 10.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL DOLLARS VERSUS NB.

SO OUR, OUR, UM, INCREMENT CHART, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE OUR ACTUAL, AND THEN THE, THE PLAN DICTATES THAT WE CALCULATED A 5% DISCOUNT RATE.

SO THE PLAN, ALL OF OUR PLANS HAVE A BUDGET CAP AT NPB AND AN ESTIMATED ACTUAL MM-HMM SO OUR ACTUAL COLLECTIONS MIGHT BE 10 MILLION, BUT WE'RE DISCOUNTING IT BACK.

WE'RE DISCOUNTING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2006.

YES.

OKAY.

YES.

SO WE HAVE, UM, KIND OF THE, I CAN PASS THIS AROUND, BUT

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WE HAVE OUR CUMULATIVE AMOUNT, UM, WITH THE 2006 MPB AT 5%.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING HERE TO COME UP WITH THAT 36 POINT WHATEVER MILLION COLLECTIVE THAT'S AN N.

SO THE 36 IS A 2006 NUMBER? NO, THAT'S THE ACTUAL COLLECTIONS TO DATE IN DISCOUNTED NP BACK TO TWO SIX.

SO YOU MEANT TO COMPARE THAT? WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE BUDGET, UH, PAGE YET.

I WAIT, I WAIT THERE.

ALRIGHT.

NATALIA, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO BE READY IN THE BUDGET PERSON .

UM, WE DID ADD A COUPLE OF NEW GOALS IN THE 2023 PLAN.

I DIDN'T CAPTURE ANYTHING THERE.

UM, WE'LL START REPORTING ON THAT AS THERE'S STUFF TO REPORT, UM, ON PAGE 18.

ANYONE WHO IS ON THE BOARD IN DECEMBER, ON DECEMBER 1ST, 2023, PLEASE CHECK, MAKE SURE THAT I'M TELLING THE TRUTH THERE, UM, BY MY RECORDS.

UM, OKAY.

PAGE 19 ON THE BUDGET.

UM, AGAIN, 49.68 MILLION NPV, WHICH UM, IS $111.86 MILLION AND ACTUAL, UM, FOR THE TIFF BUDGET, AGAIN, THIS GETS ADJUSTED EVERY YEAR BASED ON, IT JUST GETS TWEAKED BASED ON HOW QUICKLY OR SLOWLY THE MONEY COMES IN.

SO WE'VE ALLOCATED $30.68 MILLION.

UM, THAT ADMIN IS JUST A FUNNY PILLAR TO REMIND ME TO REMIND YOU, UM, THAT WE STILL NEED TO UPDATE ADMIN COSTS FOR 2324.

AND SO WE HAVE A BALANCE OF $81 MILLION.

UM, THIS TIP DISTRICT BUDGET IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS.

IT'S NOT BY LINE ITEM, IT'S MORE BY AREA.

BUT THERE'S CAPACITY BOTH WITHIN, UM, KIND OF THAT SKILLMAN, WALNUT HILL, TIER D TOWN CENTER IS WHAT IT WAS CALLED.

AND OTHER, UM, MANY YEARS FROM NOW, IF WE DECIDE THAT MONEY NEEDS TO BE SHIFTED TO ONE PLACE THAT COULD OCCUR THROUGH THIS BOARD AND THEN CITY COUNCIL , WELL, I WAS GONNA SAY NOW, NOW CAN YOU RELATE THAT $36.6 MILLION FIGURE TO, WHAT'S THIS CHART? WHERE DOES THAT RESIDE ON THIS CHART? THE, THE BOTTOM CHART IT IS RELATED TO THE 49.684 MILLION.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S THE 70 WHATEVER PERCENT OKAY.

OF THE NPV BUDGET, MAKE SURE.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I MOVE ON? YEAH, SO WE'VE GOT ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM CHART THERE, THAT 20 MILLION FOR TOWN CENTER, UM, SINCE OUR WORK WITH TOWN CENTER IS EVENTUALLY DONE, COULD THAT ALSO INCLUDE SKILLMAN STREET IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT GENERAL AREA OR WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO COMPLETELY CHANGE? IS IT LIKE LITERALLY THE TOWN CENTER PLOT? YEAH, WELL IF AND WHEN SKILLMAN STREET COMES UP, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT INTERNALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, I'LL LOOK AT THE BUDGET LINE ITEMS AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT ALL NEEDS TO GO TO OTHER, OR ONE FIFTH OF IT CAN GO INTO THAT CATEGORY.

IT'S REALLY KIND OF AN INTERNAL ACCOUNTING OF WHAT THAT BUDGET LINE ITEM COMES FROM.

AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, GETTING DOWN TO A ZERO BALANCE ON EITHER OF THESE, BUT IF, LIKE I SAID, IF WE NEEDED TO SHIFT, WE COULD, BUT THAT'LL BE KINDA A INTERNAL FUNCTION OF TRYING TO JUSTIFY WHICH LINE ITEM WE SHOULD BE PULLING FROM.

AND IT CAN BE A COMBINATION OF, BUT CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR ANY FURTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DOWN CENTER THEN, OR IS THE 20 MINUTE SET ASIDE FOR IT AGAIN, IT WAS JUST A LINE.

SO IT'S JUST A LINE ITEM THAT HAS BEEN THERE.

YES.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S STARTING TO NO PLAN FOR USE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UM, IF WE WERE EVER TO WANT, AND THIS IS HARD SOMETIMES POLITICALLY, BUT YOU KNOW, TO, TO ADJUST THE BUDGET UP OR DOWN, THAT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING AND NOTICE INTO THE NEWSPAPER AND STUFF.

BUT IF YOU'RE JUST SHIFTING AMONG BUDGET CATEGORIES WITH THE SAME CAP THAT TAKES TIF BOARD ACTION AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL WITHOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO THAT'S NOT A REALLY CHALLENGING TASK, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY IN BOTH RIGHT NOW THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER IT AT THIS TIME.

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PAGE 20 IS OUR MINORITY AND WOMEN OWNED, UM, BUSINESS PARTICIPATION FOR ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.

DOEY, SORRY.

YES, I THINK THERE'S TWO HANDS UP, BUT, UM, OH, THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE CUT OFF.

I AM SO SORRY.

UP FIRST AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL, SO I'LL LET HER GO FIRST.

THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

I THANK YOU FOR CALLING THAT OUT.

TRUSTEE, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UH, SORRY.

UM, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE THESE, THIS IS THE BUDGET FOR THE SKILLMAN CORRIDOR TIFF, UM, AND I JUST CAN'T HELP BUT TO WONDER, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE LAKE HIGHLANDS COMMUNITY GOES, UH, LIKE HAMILTON PARK AND ACROSS THE WAY WHERE YOU HAVE NORTHWOOD ESTATES, WHICH IS ALSO PART OF LAKE HIGHLANDS, UM, AND THEN EAST OF, EAST OF THIS AREA IS SKILLMAN, RIGHT? IT'S FOREST LANE AND IT RUNS OVER TO SKILLMAN.

IS THAT AREA NOT INCLUDED IN THIS AT ALL? I DIDN'T CAPTURE ALL OF THAT.

UM, I DIDN'T CAPTURE ALL THE AREAS OF NOTE.

UM, TYPICALLY OUR, UM, TIP DISTRICTS WERE TRYING TO CAPTURE PRIMARILY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND VACANT LAND, THINGS THAT WE THINK CAN INCREASE IN VALUE OVER TIME.

AND SO A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE TYPICALLY NOT INCLUDED IN TIP DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

OKAY.

SO ONE OF THE AREAS OF CONCERN I'VE ALWAYS SHARED AND ALWAYS QUESTIONED JUST BECAUSE I GREW UP IN THIS AREA AND WATCHED IT AND, AND HAVE WATCHED DEVELOPMENT OVER DECADES, UM, IS THE COMMERCIAL RETAIL STRIP THAT THERE'S A COUPLE, RIGHT? THERE'S THE ONE AT FOREST AND GREENVILLE WHERE YOU'VE, THERE'S CHASE BANK AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS A RETAIL COMMERCIAL STRIP AND THEN YOU HAVE FOR, AND THEN YOU HAVE GOING NORTH OF THAT, NORTH OF GREENVILLE, YOU HAVE RIGHT, RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET TO 6 35, IT'S ANOTHER COMMERCIAL STRIP.

IT WOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LAND THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING DOING.

UM, CITY OF REFUGE, RIGHT? IT'S THE CITY OF LAND THAT'S RIGHT ACROSS THAT, THAT EMPTY LOT.

THERE'S A STRIP OF RETAIL COMMERCIAL RIGHT ACROSS FROM THERE.

SO THOSE TWO THAT ARE RIGHT THERE ON FOREST THAT ARE RIGHT THERE ON GREENVILLE, NOT FAR OFF OF SKILLMAN.

IS THAT NOT PART OF THIS? NOT RIGHT NOW.

NO, IT'S NOT, NO.

UM, IF, YOU KNOW, TIF DISTRICTS AREN'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, FIELD OF