* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. I, [00:00:01] I SEE YOUR, I CAN SEE, UH, YOU'RE [Arts & Cultural Advisory Commission on January 16, 2025.] ON, YOU'RE MUTED. CAN YOU UNMUTE JOE? YES. YOU HEAR US? CAN SHE HEAR US? EMMANUEL? ARE WE MUTED? WE, NO, WE'RE OKAY. CAN SHE HEAR US? I JUST, OKAY. LET'S SEE. TINO, CAN YOU HEAR US, TINO? I'M HERE. GREAT. GREAT. UH, WE'RE EXPECTING MICKEY TO BE REMOTE, BUT IF SHE'S NOT, CAN YOU DO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE, UH, GUIDELINES FOR THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ALLOCATIONS? YES. DID YOU HEAR ME? TINO, YOU'RE ON MUTE. YOU BACK ON MUTE NOW. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? UH, WE'RE EXPECTING NIKKI TO BE ON. OH YEAH. BUT IF SHE IS NOT GOING TO, UH, WHEN IT'S TIME, MAKE BACK THE COUNTRY BEING ON THE GUIDELINE. CAN YOU DO THAT? HEY, TINA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN HEAR YOU? OH, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. YOU HEAR A LOT OF NOISE. OKAY. IT'S ON ME. NEVERMIND. I'M HERE. YOU LOOK AT ME. SORRY. DID WE WANT SOMEONE FROM CHAIR SMALL? I CHAIR SMALL. YES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, SOUND THAT'S BEING PICKED UP, AND SO IT'S CAUSING THINGS TO BREAK UP. OKAY. TOTALLY. A WEEK. SO I JUST WANNA ALL OF THEM, IF WE WERE GONNA NEED TO MAKE OKAY THIS THEM, AND HAVE A COPY OF NOT THE RIGHT, THAT'S WHY, THEN WE WILL PRINT THEM OUT FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE. WHAT ABOUT ELECTRONIC THING? THEY REALLY SET OUT ELECTRONIC. DO THAT. I HAVE ONE PRINTED. LET'S DO ONE TO DEMONSTRATE. YEAH. I JUST DIDN'T WANNA, LIKE, IF THERE WAS A CHANGE, I DIDN'T WANNA PRINT LIKE 20 OF THEM AND THEN YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S SMART. SO WE HAVE A QUORUM READY. BEING THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM, I NOW CALL TO ORDER, UH, THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSIONS. UH, MEETING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. UH, EVERYBODY. HELLO. GLAD EVERYBODY HAD A GREAT HOLIDAY. IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S ALL DONE. FANTASTIC. UM, AS WE GET STARTED TODAY, WE'RE GONNA MAKE A, UH, A LITTLE SHIFT IN OUR AGENDA IN THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OUR CULTURAL SPOTLIGHT TO THE FRONT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONERS. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU GUYS? YES. UH, AND WE ARE PLEASED AND HONORED, UH, TODAY TO HAVE DR. HARRY ROBINSON FROM THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM. HARRY, IF YOU AND, UH, MR. RE WOULD TAKE THE CENTER STAGE HERE, MARTIN, WELL GO SIT. DR. ROBINSON RATHER SIT HERE. YOU SIT. YOU COULD SIT HERE. . UH, SO AS WE, WE GET STARTED, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HONORING, UH, DR. HARRY ROBINSON. AND MARTINE HAS A STATEMENT SHE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE DR. ROBINSON. SO, DR. ROBINSON, OFFICER CULTURE , ITERATION OF OUR CIRCLE AWARD, AND, UH, TO READ FOR PUBLIC RECORD IT NOTES. THIS IS AN AWARD. IT'S FOR YOUR VISIONARY LEADERSHIP, STEADFAST DEDICATION TO THE CITY, AND FOR PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF AFRICAN AMERICAN LIFE AND CULTURE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AS THE DALLAS AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM'S FOUNDING DIRECTOR, AND FOR LEAVING IN A LEGACY THAT WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE AND GUIDE FOR YEARS TO COME. CELEBRATING 50 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE [00:05:01] TO THE CITY. DR. BARN HERE. YES. IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY WORDS YOU'D LIKE TO SAY, THOUGH, , I'M NOT AS OLD AS HIM. I KNOW LATER ON, BUT I REALLY HAIR SMALL. WE CAN'T HEAR OR ANYTHING. CAN'T HEAR DR. ROBINSON. THERE. MIC THAT BETTER? WELL, HOLD ON. COMMISSIONER LOMO, CAN YOU MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE? I CAN HEAR YOU SPEAK, BUT THERE WAS JUST SOME VERY WEIRD AUDIO GOING ON. , I ROBINSON UP. SOMETHING WEIRD IS GOING ON. CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME, TINO? UH, I CAN HEAR YOU. YES. UH, MAYBE IF DR. ROBINSON, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO SPEAK UP. WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH. WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU THE PERMISSION FOR SUPPORT THAT. AND AS I SAID, I WANT TO EXPEND EXTEND A SPECIAL INVITATION TO SEND MORE OF OUR EVENTS AT THE MUSEUM. I RETIRED DECEMBER 31ST. MARCH REACHED COMING IN, I THINK ABOUT MARCH. BUT I'LL TELL YOU ONE THING. TALKING ABOUT RETIREMENT, I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. OH GOD, WHAT'S GONNA, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? AFTER MARGIE WAS ASKED TO COME, I HAVE NO SLEEP. , I DON'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING. PEOPLE CALL THAT CHECK WITH MARVIN. AND, AND THAT'S LADY JUST CAME WHERE MARVIN HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE 1985. CAME AS A VOLUNTEER. AND BACK IN THOSE DAYS, I USED TO INTERVIEW ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS. DALE HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE. AND I TOLD PEOPLE, TALK TO THE VOLUNTEER. AND I GOT BACK. THEY SAID, NO VOLUNTEER WAS HERE. I SAID, WHAT DO YOU, VOLUNTEERS AND KEPT DOING THINGS, KEPT DOING THINGS. SO WE, SOUTH CAROLINA, HEADED UP THE MUSEUM AND INVITED TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE FACULTY COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON SCHOOL. I WAS CALLED IN BY THE PRESIDENT OF UTA AND HE SAID, UH, ASKED OUT FOR LUNCH, FOR DINNER, HAD LUNCH. SO I WENT OVER . HE SAID, I NEED A FAVOR. WHAT'S THE FAVOR? THE LAND TO COME BACK TO UT ? JUST BEFORE COVID WAS COMING, I WAS LOOKING FOR RETIREMENT. AND I CALLED HIM IN AND ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD HELP. SAID, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A JOB. I'M RETIRED. I HAPPENED. [00:10:01] I SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU JOIN ME IN JUNE ON THE PAYROLL SOMETHING I NEED TO GET IT IN BEFORE JUNE. SO WE CAME, MARCH, STARTED IN MARCH OF 20TH, ABOUT TO BEGIN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BOND MONEY THAT WE GOT FROM THE CITY. THANK GOD MARVIN WAS THERE BECAUSE I WAS NOT ABLE TO GO EVERY ONCE, SO THE WHOLE TIME, BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSED, RIGHT. FOR HIM AND MARGIE, I CAN'T SAY NOTHING ABOUT MARGIE. MARGIE HAS SHEPHERDED US. SO I FEEL GOOD , DR. ROBINSON, IF IT'S OKAY, THANK YOU FOR BACK TO ME. I'M GONNA TAKE THIS ONE HOME. YEAH, WE HEAR [00:34:44] WELL. [00:34:44] OKAY. [00:34:49] YES. [00:34:50] NO, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, [00:35:21] UM, OH, UP THERE ACTUALLY. OH, IS SHE STAY? SHE'S LIKE, SO THIS PLAN BI YESTERDAY, AND SHE SAYS SHE'S COMING. YEAH. RIGHT NOW. I JUST, WELL, SHE CAN HEAR US. CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK OR TO INTRODUCE THE BETTER? YEAH. DO THE EDIT. WELL, CAN SHE HEAR US? OH, YEAH. JOE. JOE. NO, I, I SEE YOUR, I CAN SEE, UH, YOU'RE ON. YOU'RE MUTED. CAN YOU UNMUTE JOE? CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN SHE HEAR US? EMMANUEL, ARE WE MUTED? CAN WE, NO, WE'RE OKAY. CAN SHE HEAR US? OKAY? LISTEN, TINO, CAN YOU HEAR US, TINO? I'M HERE. GREAT. GREAT. UH, WE'RE EXPECTING MICKEY TO BE REMOTE, BUT IF SHE'S NOT, CAN YOU DO THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE, UH, GUIDELINES FOR THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE ALLOCATIONS? , DID YOU HEAR ME? TINO, YOU'RE ON MUTE. YOU BACK ON MUTE NOW. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? UM, WE'RE EXPECTING NIKKI TO BE ON. OH YEAH. BUT IF SHE IS NOT GOING TO, WHEN IS TIME ON THE GUIDELINES? CAN YOU DO THAT? HEY, TINA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN HEAR YOU? OH, I CAN'T HEAR YOU HEAR A LOT OF NOISE. OKAY. IT'S ON ME. NEVERMIND. NO, I'M HERE. YOU LOOK AT ME. SORRY. DID WE WANT SOMEONE FROM CHAIR SMALL CHAIR SMALL? YEAH. YES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, SOUND THAT'S BEING PICKED UP, AND SO IT'S CAUSING THINGS TO BREAK UP. OKAY. TOTALLY WEEK. IT'S WEEK. SO I JUST WANNA PRINT ALL OF THEM. IF WE WERE GONNA NEED TO MAKE OKAY. THIS HAVE A COPY OF NOT THE RIGHT. THAT'S WHY. THEN WE WILL PRINT THEM OUT FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE. WHAT ABOUT ELECTRONIC THING? THEY OUT ELECTRONIC. I HAVE ONE PRINTED. LETS DO ONE. I JUST DIDN'T WANNA, LIKE, IF THERE WAS A CHANGE, I DIDN'T WANT PRINT LIKE 20 OF THEM AND THEN THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S SMART. SO WE HAVE A QUORUM READY, UH, BEING THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM, I NOW CALL TO ORDER, UH, THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSION, UH, MEETING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. UH, EVERYBODY. HELLO. GLAD EVERYBODY HAD A GREAT HOLIDAY. LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S ALL . FANTASTIC. UM, AS WE GET STARTED TODAY, WE'RE GONNA MAKE A, UH, A LITTLE SHIFT IN OUR AGENDA AND THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC SPEAKERS, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OUR CULTURAL SPOTLIGHT TO THE FRONT, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONERS. [00:40:01] IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU GUYS? YES. UH, AND WE ARE PLEASED AND HONORED, UH, TODAY TO HAVE DR. HARRY ROBINSON FROM THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM. HARRY, IF YOU AND, UH, MS. REESE WILL TAKE THE CENTER STAGE HERE. MARTIN, WELL GO SIT NEXT. DR. ROBINSON RATHER SIT HERE. SIT. YOU COULD SIT HERE. UH, SO AS WE, WE GET STARTED, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HONORING, UH, DR. HARRY ROBINSON. AND MARTINE HAS A STATEMENT SHE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE DR. ROBINSON. SO, DR. ROBINSON OF OFFICER CULTURE , ITERATION OF OUR CIRCLE AWARD. AND, UH, TO READ FOR PUBLIC RECORD, IT NOTES IT AWARD, IT IS FOR YOUR VISIONARY LEADERSHIP, STEADFAST DEDICATION TO THE CITY, AND FOR PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN LIFE AND CULTURE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AS THE DALLAS AFRICAN-AMERICAN MUSEUM'S FOUNDING DIRECTOR, AND FOR LEAVING A LEGACY THAT WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE AND GUIDE FOR YEARS TO COME. CELEBRATING 50 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY. DR. HERE? YES. UH, IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY WORDS YOU'D LIKE TO SAY TO , I AM NOT AS OLD AS HIM, , LATER ON, UM, I REALLY WISH FAIRS RELUCTANCY. YOU'RE SMALL. WE CAN'T HEAR OR ANYTHING, CAN'T HEAR. DR. ROBINSON, IS THERE A MIC ON? CORRECT. THAT BETTER? WELL, HOLD ON. I, COMMISSIONER LOMO, CAN YOU MUTE YOUR MICROPHONE? I CAN HEAR YOU SPEAK, BUT THERE WAS JUST SOME VERY WEIRD AUDIO GOING ON. , SOMETHING WEIRD IS GOING ON. VALERIE, CAN YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CHINO? UH, I CAN HEAR YOU, YES. OKAY. UH, MAYBE IF DR. ROBINSON, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO SPEAK UP, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH. WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PERMISSION FOR SUPPORT, AND AS I SAID, I WANT TO EXPEND EXTEND A SPECIAL INVITATION TO YOU, ATTEND MORE OF OUR EVENTS AT THE MUSEUM. I RETIRED DECEMBER 31ST, MARCH RE COMING IN SERVING THANK FOR ABOUT MARCH. BUT I TELL YOU ONE THING, TALKING ABOUT RETIREMENT, I THOUGHT ABOUT, OH GOD, WHAT'S GONNA, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? AFTER MARGIE WAS ASKED TO COME, I HAVE SLEEP, , I DON'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING, PEOPLE CALL, SAID, CHECK WITH MARVIN. AND, AND THAT'S LADY JUST CAME WHERE MARVIN MALCOLM HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE 1985, [00:45:02] HIM AS A VOLUNTEER. AND BACK IN THOSE DAYS, I USED TO INTERVIEW ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS. DALE HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE. AND I TOLD PEOPLE, TALK TO THE VOLUNTEER. AND I GOT BACK. THEY SAID THE VOLUNTEER WAS HERE. I SAID, VOLUNTEERS. AND KEPT DOING THINGS. KEPT DOING THINGS. SO WE, SOUTH CAROLINA, HEADED UP THE MUSEUM AND INVITED TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE FACULTY COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON. APPLIED. I WAS CALLED IN BY THE PRESIDENT OF UTA AND HE SAID, UH, ASKED, UH, FOR LUNCH, FOR DINNER, LUNCH. SO I WENT OVER, HE SAID, I NEED A FAVOR. WHAT'S THE FAVOR? GET THE LAND TO COME BACK. BACK, JUST BEFORE COVID WAS COMING, I WAS LOOKING FOR, FOR CHAIRMAN. AND I CALLED HIM IN AND ASKED HIM IF HE WAS HELP. SAID, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A JOB. I'M RETIRED. I'M HAVE TO. SO I SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU JOIN ME IN JUNE ON THE PAYROLL SOMETHING, I NEED TO GET IT BEFORE JUNE. SO WE CAME, MARCH, STARTED IN MARCH OF 20TH, ABOUT TO BEGIN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BOND MONEY THAT WE GOT FROM THE CITY. THANK GOD MARVIN WAS THERE BECAUSE I WAS NOT ABLE TO GO EVERY ONCE. SO THE WHOLE TIME, BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSED, , HIM AND MARGIE. I CAN'T SAY NOTHING ABOUT MARGIE. MARGIE HAS SHEPHERDED US. SO I FEEL GOOD , DR. ROBINSON, IF IT'S OKAY, THANK YOU FOR BACK TO ME. I'M GONNA TAKE THIS ONE HOME. YEAH, YEAH. I ALWAYS, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU. I ALSO WANNA THANK YOU ON, ON BEHALF OF DR. ROBINSON FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM. UM, IT IS THE CITY'S MUSEUM. IT IS THE HOUSE THAT HARRY BUILT, AS THEY'VE BEEN SAYING. BUT THIS, THIS BUILDING BELONGS TO THE CITY. AND MY ROLE, AS DR. ROBINSON SAID, IS AS INTERIM. SO LET IT NOT BE CONFUSED THAT I DID NOT COME HERE TO GET A JOB, . I CAME HERE TO DO A JOB, AND MY JOB IS TO HAND OVER A CLEAN, FULLY OPERATIONAL AS WELL STAFFED AS POSSIBLE, UH, WITH SOME FUNDING COMMITMENTS, LONG-TERM COMMITMENTS MADE, AND A STAFF THAT IS EAGER TO CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK OF THE MUSEUM. THE MUSEUM IS STRONG, YOU GUYS. UH, PART OF MY MISSION IS ALSO TO CORRECT THE PERCEPTION THAT NOTHING GOES ON AT THE MUSEUM. WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, YOU SHOULD COME OVER. BUT I WILL SAY, FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT VICKI MEEK, BUT THE MUSEUM HAS BEEN CHRONICALLY UNDERFUNDED OVER THE YEARS, AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO CORRECT THAT. UH, MISS MISSTEP IS NOT THE ONLY AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM THAT IS UNDERFUNDED. IS IS TRADITIONALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN. MUSEUMS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE. SO I WANNA WORK WITH YOU GUYS TO ASK YOU TO TELL ME WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW, WHAT THE MUSEUM CAN DO, UM, TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE STAFF AND TO DEVELOP STRONG PROGRAMS FOR THE CITY, NOT JUST IN FEBRUARY , UM, WHICH WE WE'RE VERY PROUD OF. SO I APPRECIATE DR. ROBINSON'S TRUST. I APPRECIATE YOUR TRUST. AND, UH, I'M, I'M OPEN. I WILL SAY MY DOOR IS OPEN, BUT I NEED TO CLOSE IT SOMETIMES. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S A TURNS STYLE , BUT I'M HAPPY TO BE BACK IN DALLAS FOR A LITTLE BIT. AND, UH, I'M HERE TO PROVIDE A SERVICE AND I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL CONTINUE TO BE A SUPPORTIVE PARTNER. MARVIN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, ? WELL, I'M HAPPY TO PICK UP THE MAMMAL WITH, UH, MARGIE AND . I APPRECIATE THE TRUST FROM DR. ROBINSON. AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN, AS YOU HEARD, I'VE BEEN WITH THE MUSEUM SINCE 1985, UH, EXCEPT FOR THE YEARS THAT I WAS IN CHARLESTON. JUST BEEN TRUST AND EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR ME. [00:50:01] IT'S ALLOWED ME TO DO THE TEACHING, WHICH OF COURSE HAS SORT OF BEEN MY MISSION, UH, SINCE I WAS 17 YEARS OLD. THAT IS, THE MUSEUM GETS A GOOD, UH, AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING IN FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS. SO WE GET TO TEACH THEM ABOUT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN EXPERIENCE, AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND CULTURE, MUCH MORE THAN WHAT I CAN DO IN A, IN A UNIVERSITY CLASSROOM. SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD SITUATION FOR ME, UH, TO BE THERE TO LEARN FROM DR. ROBINSON TO AGAIN, UH, CONFESS. HE'S SORT OF MY MENTOR IN TERMS OF ALL THE THINGS I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN DALLAS. WELL, DR. ROBINSON, YOU ARE AN INSTITUTION HERE IN THE CITY, AND YOU WILL BE MISSED. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, COMMISSIONER. SO WE ARE GONNA GO DOWN OUR AGENDA. UH, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE VOTING ITEMS. AND THE VERY FIRST ONE, UH, IS THE APPROVALS OF OUR MINUTES. UH, THE NOVEMBER 21 MINUTES. EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM? YES. CAN WE GET A MOTION? I MOVE. SET. UM, FOR THE RECORD, UH, COMMISSIONER CLOVER ACTUALLY MADE THE, UH, THE FIRST MOTION. OKAY. I THINK, UH, JIM NUGENT, UH, SECONDED. SO WE'VE PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED THE PAST, UH, UNANIMOUSLY. UH, THE NOVEMBER 21, 24 MINUTES. UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, A FEW THINGS FROM PUBLIC ART, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS. SO, UH, THE VERY FIRST VOTING ITEM IS TO RECOMMEND NEW SELECTION PANELISTS TO THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURES PUBLIC ART REVIEW PANEL ROSTER. YES. WOULD YOU'D LIKE TO? I'M, YES. IS THERE A SLIDE FOR THIS? OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND NEW SELECTION PANELISTS TO THE PUBLIC ART REVIEW PANEL ROSTER. UM, A MOTION. NEED A MOTION. WE GET, UH, VICKY HAS MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SECOND COMING. OKAY. CLYDE VALENTINE. I SAW HIS HAND UP. SO MOVED BY VICKY, UH, M**K AND SECONDED BY CLYDE VALENTINE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PANELIST SELECTED BY THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION. SO THE SELECTION OF PANELISTS, UH, IS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED. UH, PUBLIC ART HAS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS A VERY EXCITING ONE. UM, YEAH, WE, UM, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE MAKE A MOTION FOR THE INITIATION OF THE CITYWIDE SIDEWALK POETRY PUBLIC ART PROJECT, WHICH WILL BEGIN IN THE ESPERANZA DISTRICT, LOCATED IN OR ESPERANZA NEIGHBORHOOD LOCATED IN DISTRICT 11. UM, LET'S MAKE A MOTION AND SECOND, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION. OKAY. UH, EVERYONE HAS HEARD THE RECOMMENDATION. IS THERE A MOTION I MOVE? OKAY, COMMISSIONER, I SECOND. . WE BEEN WORKING. THANK YOU. EMMANUEL ? UM, I SECOND MR. TERESA. THAT WAS, OH, THERESA. OKAY. UH, SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK WE DO NEED DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. LYNN, CAN YOU COME TALK ABOUT THIS? SURE. THIS IS SO EXCITING. SLIDE. GO WITH THIS. I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MORE THAN THIS SLIDE. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE IMAGE REALLY CLOSELY, YOU CAN SEE PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO, THE GREAT NEWS ABOUT THIS IS, UM, WE HAD A MEETING WITH PLANNING AND ONE OF THE FOLKS FROM TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET MORE ART ACROSS THE CITY, ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBLY. AND, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE A CITY POET, THE CITY WHO IS WORKING WITH US TO CREATE THE DALLAS FORM. SO THINK HAIKU ONLY DALLAS STYLE, AND WILL TRY AND, UH, INITIATE CITYWIDE. SO WE'LL INITIATE ACROSS THE CITY. WE'LL TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT IN THIS FIRST, UM, [00:55:01] FIRST ITERATION THAT EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT WILL HAVE SOME PARKS, IS INTERESTED IN PUTTING IT AND, UM, IN SOME OF THEIR GATEWAY PLACES. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY, AND IT'S NOT AN EXPENSIVE, UM, PUBLIC ART, AND IT'S ADORABLE. SO IF WE CAN GET POETS TO RESPOND TO OUR POET LAUREATES WORKSHOP, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL STORIES OF DALLAS THROUGH THE WORDS OF POETRY. HOW BEAUTIFUL IS THAT? RIGHT? SO, SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION. UM, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? NO, OPPOSED. SO THE CITYWIDE SLIDE CHAIR, SMALL. I, MY HAND WAS UP BEFORE WE VOTED. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T LOOK UP THERE. MY APOLOGIES. IT'S OKAY. POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE, THE MOTION MADE WAS FOR DISTRICT 11, BUT THIS SAYS CITYWIDE. IS THAT NO TECHNICALITY? YEAH. THE MOTION WAS MADE FOR CITYWIDE TO START IN DISTRICT 11 IS ESP. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY. UM, ACTUALLY THAT BRINGS UP KIND OF AN INTERESTING POINT OF ORDER. SO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CALL THE, THE VOTE AGAIN. SO IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE CALL THE VOTE? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. UM, SO IT'S GONNA START IN ESP. IS THAT WHERE THAT, IS THAT NEAR FAIR PARK? NO, IT'S DISTRICT 11. SO IT'S NORTH. IT'S, UM, IT'S EAST OF, OR EXCUSE ME, IT'S WEST OF 75 SOUTH OF S VALLEY. UM, OH, OKAY. NORTH OF LBJ. OKAY. AND THIS IS, IT'S GOING TO START, IT'S GOING TO BE INITIATED WITH A, A WORKSHOP. SO TO START TO, TO PICK OFF THE WHOLE PROGRAM, THERE'LL BE A WORKSHOP, AND WE REALLY DO WANNA WORK A VERY TIGHT FORM, UM, SO THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY GET A POEM ON EACH SQUARE. YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S KIND OF FOUR BY SIX SIDEWALK SQUARE. RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT LIMITED? WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS? SO WE'RE EXPLORING THAT WITH THE O AUTHORITY. OUR PLAN IS TO REALLY INITIATE THIS, WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT BEGINNING WITH . THANK YOU. SO, AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? A, A STAMP IS CREATED. IT'S A, IT'S A STAMP THAT CAN BE USED AGAIN. SO IF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A COUNCIL OR A DISTRICT WANTS THAT SAME IMAGERY, PERHAPS THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO USE THAT STAMP MORE THAN ONCE. OKAY, GREAT. WE'RE OKAY JUST USING IT ONCE? WE DON'T KNOW YET. YEAH. OKAY. MM-HMM . ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. OF COURSE. UM, I SEE THE INITIATION DATE HERE. IS THERE ALREADY A PLAN IN ACTION FOR LIKE HOW IT MOVES TO OTHER, UM, COUNCIL DISTRICTS? OR IS IT, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE TO START IT AND SEE HOW IT GOES, AND THEN A PLAN IS BEING FORMED AFTER THAT? WELL, YES. AND, AND, AND NO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, WE'RE DEVELOPING A PLAN TO BE ROLLED OUT ALONG THE WHOLE CONTINUUM. WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA BE ROLLED OUT. MR. LEVI, WHEN YOU SEE INITIATION, WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. OKAY. I SEE. COMMISSIONER HAL'S HAND WAS STILL UP, AND DR. JACKSON'S HAND HAS COME UP. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON, SHE WAS UP BEFORE I WAS OKAY. CAN, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? GOOD. GOOD. I, I JUST WANNA SAY THIS IS SUPER EX OH, HOLD ON. MY, I'M OKAY. OH, I, I AM SUPER, SUPER, UH, EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THIS. THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL, UM, UM, UH, PUBLIC ART, UM, PROJECT. YOU KNOW, VISUAL ARTISTS, UH, GET A LOT OF, UH, REPRESENTATION AND WE MUST NOT FORGET THAT WORDS ARE IMPORTANT AS WELL. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I SAY THAT AS A, A POET MYSELF, I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT PHOTOGRAPHY AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, BUT I'M ALMOST EQUALLY AS PASSIONATE ABOUT POETRY AS I AM ABOUT PHOTOGRAPHY. SO THIS REALLY IS QUITE EXCITING, UM, FOR ME. AND SO I'M, I'M REALLY ENTHUSIASTIC IN IF I CAN BE OF ANY HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU. UH, WHATEVER KIND OF MIC YOU'RE USING, DR. JACKSON, YOU NEED TO PASS THAT INFORMATION ALONG SO WE CAN ALL GET THAT . YOU SAID WHAT KIND OF MIC IT [01:00:01] IS. HEY, THIS IS, THANKS TO, UH, WELL, WE'LL, WE, THIS THAT'LL BE OFF TOPIC. I'LL, I'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ANOTHER TIME. SO, , IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER OMO, IS YOUR HAND STILL UP? YES. THANK YOU. UM, SO I KNOW THAT THE CITY RAN OUTTA MONEY FOR, UH, RESIDENTS TO REPAIR THEIR SIDEWALK. UM, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE SIDEWALK GETS DAMAGED, DESTROYED? BECAUSE IT'S A 50 50, RIGHT? IT'S THE, IT'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE CITY WHO GETS THE SIDEWALK REPAIRED. WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THIS SITUATION? SO, I LOVE THAT YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION AND HAVE A HEART FOR SIDEWALKS IN NEIGHBORHOODS. SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT SIDEWALKS, UM, OFTEN AND ON PUBLIC LAND. UM, SO, UH, LIKE AT THE BEGINNING OF TRAILS INSIDE A PARK, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE DEVELOPING, UM, LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT IN FRONT OF A PERSON'S HOUSE. GOOD ANSWER. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BLAISE, IS THERE A WAY TO INCORPORATE ARTWORK WITH THE POETRY? YOU KNOW, IT'S A STAMP. SO WE, IT'S A STAMP. LIKE WE CAN STAMP WHATEVER WE WANT. WE'RE IN A START POINT, BUT IT CAN BE A STAMP, IT CAN BE AN IMAGE, RIGHT? THAT'S CREATIVE WRITING, WHATEVER IMAGERY WITH THE WRITING. OKAY. OKAY. UH, AND, UH, I WANNA THROW THIS OUT THERE AS WELL. UH, PUBLIC ART COMMITTEES, JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER COMMITTEES, UH, COMMISSIONERS ARE INVITED TO ACTUALLY ATTEND THE COMMITTEE MEETING AND, UH, POSSIBLY, UH, GET APPRISED OF A LOT OF THESE DETAILS. UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, CAN WE GET A MOTION? WE'VE, WELL, BUT WE, FROM DISCUSSION HERE, UH, SO MICKEY MEEK HAS MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITYWIDE SIDEWALK WALK POETRY, PUBLIC ART PROJECT. MR. BLAKE, I SECOND. OKAY. UH, SO WE, I'M GONNA LET HER OVERRIDE YOU. COMMISSIONER, PLEASE. DID Y'ALL HEAR COMMISSIONER JACKSON JACKSON? SO, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. THE OPPOSITION? NO OPPOSITION. SO THE CITYWIDE SIDEWALK POETRY, PUBLIC ART PROJECT, THE CAST, UH, BEFORE MOVE ON TO THE ANNUAL REPORT RECOMMENDATION. AND WE HAVE ONE OTHER SUGGESTION FROM THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE THAT I THINK KRISTA WANTED TO SPEAK TO. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. HOW OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM ME, SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY MET WITH ME. WELL, ONE PERSON'S MET WITH ME. UM, LYNN AND I ARE MEETING ONE-ON-ONE WITH EACH COMMISSIONER TO, UM, DO MANY THINGS. BUT ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO WALK THROUGH THE PUBLIC ART PROCESS. IT'S A SUPER CONFUSING PROCESS. I DON'T THINK EVERY, I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY ON THE, YOU KNOW, PAP COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS IT YET. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVEN'T LIVED THROUGH IT, IT'S CONFUSING. AND THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT GOES WITH IT. SO WE'RE WALKING COMMISSIONERS ONE-ON-ONE THROUGH THAT. AND THEN SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR DISTRICT, WHAT IS COMING UP, IF SOMETHING IS COMING UP, IF SOMETHING'S IN THE WORKS AND WHAT EXISTS THERE. AND THEN IF TIME PERMITS, WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT BOND AND THE PUBLIC ART PLAN. SO IT'S A VERY SPECIFIC MEETING. IT'S NOT A GENERAL, IT'S FOR THIS DISTRICT. AND IT'S SO PEOPLE CAN ASK ONE-ON-ONE QUESTIONS AND DIG IN IF THEY WANT TO. WE HAD OUR FIRST MEETING YESTERDAY WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER ILLA. AND WE HAVE ONE PLAN FOR, UH, DISTRICT ONE ON FRIDAY. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IF YOU HAVE, IF YOUR DISTRICT HAS A PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT LIVES IN YOUR DISTRICT OR EVEN WORKS IN YOUR DISTRICT, WE ARE TRYING TO INCLUDE THOSE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE MEMBERS SO THAT YOU CAN MEET THEM AND THEN HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH THEM AS WELL. MM-HMM . WITH ALL THAT SAID, UM, IT'S A LOT GOING ON. THERE'S A LOT OF MEETINGS, A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT WE FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY WORTH THE TIME. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL GIVE ALL OF YOU AS COMMISSIONERS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROCESS, WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR DISTRICT. UM, OPEN A DOOR FOR YOU TO TALK TO YOUR COUNCIL PERSON, TALK MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT PUBLIC ART. AND WE ALSO ARE HOPING, AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS, THAT THIS WILL, UH, ALLOW THE PUBLIC ART TEAM TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU TO GET BETTER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WE WORK ON PROJECTS. SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOALS AND ALL THAT'LL BE WORKED OUT BY EMAIL BETWEEN YOU AND . WELL, SO SOME OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM ME ALREADY. SOME OF YOU REPLIED TO MY EMAILS. SOME OF YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN EMAILS 'CAUSE WE'RE KIND OF DOING IT ON THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS. BUT I'M SIGNING AROUND A SIGN UP SHEET TOO, . SO IF YOU ARE HERE TODAY AND YOU HAVE NOT HAD A MEETING OR SCHEDULED A MEETING WITH ME AND YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR SOMETHING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF THESE TIMES DON'T WORK RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM SOMETIMES THAT MIGHT WORK. AND LYNN AND I WILL CHECK OUR SCHEDULES AND EVENTUALLY WE'LL GET THROUGH ALL THESE MEETINGS AS IT'S PROBABLY GONNA TAKE A WHILE, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT. OKAY. WE'RE JUST WANT TRANSPARENCY, OPENNESS, UNDERSTANDING, [01:05:01] KNOWLEDGE SHARING. OKAY. SO YOU PASS THAT AROUND AS A MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON. THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA. AND NEXT, UH, COMMISSIONER NUGENT HAS A RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT OF THE ANNUAL REPORT. HAVE YOU SEEN THE ANNUAL REPORT? I HOPE SO. UH, VERY CLASSIC . IT MADE TO BOLD AND VICKY THOUGHT IT LOOKED GREAT. IF I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT, YOU KNOW, IT MUST BE . IT'S BEAUTIFUL. MARTINE SENT AN EMAIL THAT SAID LIZ COLBERT WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE ANNUAL REPORT. APPARENTLY SHE HAS ASKED THE ANNUAL REPORT TO BE A TEMPLATE FOR ALL OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. GO . GREAT. UH, KRISTA WEINSTEIN, UH, VICKY MEEK AND MICKEY BALONE AS COMMITTEE CHAIRS AT GOLD. TINA PALOMO, LINDA BLADE, AND TABITHA CURIO FROM THE COMMISSION HAD GOLD. ALL OF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER INPUT TO THE REPORT. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. IT WAS TRULY A TEAM AT PLAN, AND EMMANUEL PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THE PICTURES AND GRAPHICS AND ALL, MOST ALL OF THE TEXTS WAS THEIR IDEA. THEY SUGGESTED LAYOUTS AND PICKED OUT THE PICTURES. THEY DID ALL OF THE CHARTS. LINDA, UH, BLAZE WAS OUR EDITOR AND HE SUGGESTED SOME GOALS THAT MADE IT INTO THE ANNUAL REPORT. SYLVIA BEDELL, UH, WAS OUR EDITOR AND KEPT US ON THE RIGHT TRACK, UH, GRAPHICALLY. I REMEMBER HER SAYING, RAG WRITE OR CENTERED BE CONSISTENT. , UH, YOU NEED, UH, CLIVE VALENTINE, UH, KEPT US ON TRACK WITH SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVING THE OVERALL ANNUAL OR OVERALL LOOK AND FEEL OF THE REPORT, AND WAS VERY SENSITIVE TO MAKING, UH, ABOUT MAKING SURE THE ANNUAL REPORT REFLECTED ALL OF THE CITY. DAVID SMALL WAS, UH, ON THE COMMITTEE AND HE SAID LAST YEAR, WE ARE AN ARTS COMMISSIONERS AND WE SHOULD PUT OUT AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT REFLECTS THAT. THE ANNUAL REPORT AS CURRENTLY PRESENTED ACTUALLY DOES THAT. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANNUAL REPORT? LOOKS FABULOUS. AND, AND YOU ALREADY MENTIONED THE STAFF, BUT, BUT ONCE AGAIN, I MEAN, OH YEAH, PLAN AND EMMANUEL DID GREAT TASK. THANK YOU. AND I GIVE ALL CREDIT, WE HAVE A HAND UP. OKAY. UH, WHO'S THAT? DR. JACKSON. GET READY, EVERYBODY. WAS DONE. NO, SIR, THAT WAS FROM PREVIOUS. BUT, UM, I DO WANNA THANK, SINCE I'M BEING CALLED TO SPEAK, I DO WANNA THANK THE, UM, COMMITTEE FOR, UM, PUTTING IN THE HARD WORK ON THE, UH, ANNUAL REPORT. UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER DANIEL. SORRY. I'M SORRY. OH, OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER DANIEL. THANK YOU. CHAIR SMALL. UM, JUST TRULY IT'S REALLY, IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD. WHAT I APPRECIATE ABOUT IT, UM, IS THE FACT THAT IT KIND OF, IT'S PRETTY, UH, IT'S WELL LAID OUT, BUT IT ALSO KIND OF SLAPS YOU IN THE FACE AND SAYS WE DID A LOT. UM, WHICH I THINK IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S UH, DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHAT IT IS THAT THIS BODY AND THIS AND THIS, UH, ORGANIZATION IS THE GLOBAL ORGANIZATION THAT IS DALLAS DOES. AND SO THIS REALLY QUANTIFIES IT IN A REALLY, REALLY BEAUTIFUL WAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS. UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY READABLE. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU CAN GO TOO HEAVY IN DIRECTION AND MAKE IT ALL FEEL STATS HEAVY. AND IT'S LIKE, LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DID, BUT THEN NO ONE WANTS TO READ IT 'CAUSE THEIR EYES CROSSED. EXACTLY. IN FACT, THAT WAS, UH, PHOTOS AND IT REALLY A REALLY BEAUTIFUL STORY. THE GOAL COMMITTEE WAS TO HAVE IT WHERE READER FRIENDLY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME MEET ALL THE CRITERIA [01:10:01] THAT'S NECESSARY. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A, A VERY HAPPY MEETING. UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, FOR YOUR AWARENESS AFTER THE DOCUMENT, THE DOCUMENT WILL BE SUBMITTED ON BY ITS DUE DATE. THE INTENT IS FOR A PDF VERSION TO LIVE ON THE WEBSITE, EITHER ON THE COMMISSION'S LANDING PAGE OR ELSEWHERE, BUT ANNUALLY. AND BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SO AESTHETICALLY PLEASING THIS TIME AROUND, UH, WE JUST WANT TO BUILD OUT AN ANNUAL REPORT, UH, RESOURCE FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO REFERENCE AND SEE, UM, ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT'S, UH, BEING ACHIEVED WITH YOUR GUIDANCE AND ADVICE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, CAN WE GET, UH, A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE, UH, ANNUAL REPORT COMMITTEE? I MAKE A MOTION. SECOND. OKAY. UH, SINCE LET'S DO, UH, COMMISSIONER GLOVER. AND WHO WAS THAT? UM, I COULDN'T TELL WHICH. UH, TINA TINO, UH, UH, I GUESS COMMISSIONER OMO. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A PROPER SECOND. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NO OPPOSITION. GREAT WORK COMMISSIONER T. AND SO, UH, COP RECOMMENDATION AND SUPPORT OF THE COP UH, GUIDELINES. UH, IS COMMISSIONER BRAGON VIRTUALLY ONLINE? NO, SHE'S NOT. UM, THEN I WOULD ASK, UH, IS, UH, JESSE HORNBUCKLE ONLINE? I THINK HE'S VICE CHAIR OF THAT, UH, ALLOCATIONS. IF NOT, UH, COMMISSIONER OMO, WOULD YOU MIND, UH, MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION AND SUPPORT OF THE GUIDELINES? UM, I'M GONNA GO FROM MEMORY, UM, JUST FROM A FEW DAYS AGO WHEN WE MET. AND, UM, I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S OUR DUTY TO COMMEND THE STAFF FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO. UM, THEY ARE WORKING WITH ALL THE COP ORGANIZATIONS. THEY'RE GETTING FEEDBACK, THEY'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS. THEY'RE CONSTANTLY REFINING. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE OVERALL COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO GO TO EVERY THREE YEARS. UM, SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHANGE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHANGE FOR THE COP. INSTEAD OF THE ORGANIZATION SUBMITTING EVERY YEAR THE FULL VIDEO, THE APPLICATION, UM, GOING THROUGH A PANEL REVIEW. WE'RE GONNA DO IT EVERY THREE YEARS AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET LIKE A FIRST START WITH THE 26, 27, I'M SORRY, 25, 26. NO, I WAS RIGHT. 26, 27 BUDGET. UM, SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN, UH, FOR COP. NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYBODY GETS A FREE PASS AFTER THEY GET THEIR, UH, AWARD FOR THE FIRST YEAR, THEY, THE ADMINISTRATIVE SCORING. AND I BELIEVE THE, UM, UH, GLEN, HELP ME OUT THERE WAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE SCORING AND THE OH COMPLIANCE. SO YEAR TWO AND YEAR THREE, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT, UH, WEIGHTED HEAVILY. UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE THAT VIDEO, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE THE FULL APPLICATION. UM, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO, UH, MAKE IT EASIER FOR STAFF. UM, IT'S CERTAINLY GONNA MAKE IT EASIER FOR, UH, NEW ARTS ORGANIZATIONS WHO WANT TO APPLY AND HAVE NEVER. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT ON. UM, ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN POSSIBLY TRY TO ANSWER? , IN FACT, THANK, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER OMO. IN FACT, I, I'LL JUST, UH, ASK GLEN IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR FAIR SUMMARY OF THE, UH, GUIDELINES. SURE. SO, UM, ONE OF OUR OBSERVATIONS, OBSERVATIONS, UH, WAS AN INCREASED SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN ON OUR ARTS ORGANIZATIONS, ON OUR PANELS, WHICH WE FIND TO BE MORE AND MORE FATIGUED THROUGH OUR VARIOUS PANEL PROCESSES, THROUGH FUNDING PROGRAMS AND SUCH. AND WITH OAC STAFF AND OUR OWN, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN, IF YOU WILL, WITH ALL OF OUR FUNDING PROGRAMS AND RUNNING THOSE THROUGH AND EXECUTING CONTRACTS. SO WE ENGAGE WITH OUR CURRENT COP ORGANIZATIONS TO ASK HOW THEY FELT ABOUT A THREE YEAR APPLICATION CYCLE, WHERE THE FIRST YEAR THEY GO THROUGH THE FULL THING, RIGHT? VIDEO PANEL REVIEW, ADMINISTRATIVE SCORING, EVERYTHING. AND HERE'S TWO AND THREE. EVERYTHING STAYS BASICALLY THE SAME EXCEPT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PANEL PROCESS. THEY'LL STILL APPLY GIVING US AN UPDATED SCOPE. UH, WE WILL STILL DO, UH, UPDATED ADMINISTRATIVE SCORING, WHICH WE WILL BE WAITING HEAVIER. UM, SO RIGHT NOW [01:15:01] WITH THE PANEL, IT'S A 70 30 SPLIT PANEL ADMIN. THEN IT'LL JUST BE 50 POINTS, UH, FOR AN AD ADMINISTRATIVE SCORE. WE SAW THIS YEAR THROUGH OUR ALLOCATION PROCESS FOR COP, SORT OF THE SCRUTINY BEHIND HOW ARE WE LOOKING AT OUR ORGANIZATIONS AND THEIR COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, THEIR CONTRACTS, WITH THEIR, UH, FISCAL COMPLIANCE IN GENERAL. ARE THEY SUBMITTING THEIR, UM, FINANCIALS ON TIME? UH, AND THEN ALSO THEIR ADHERENCE TO CULTURAL POLICY DIVERSITY CRITERIA FOR THINGS WE REALLY LOOK AT. SO WE SORT OF EXPANDED ON THAT, UM, AND ARE WAITING HEAVIER ON THERE. EVERYTHING ELSE, YOUR INVOLVEMENT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.