* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Community Police Oversight Board on February 11, 2025.] [00:00:03] UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UH, MY NAME'S OZZIE SMITH, AND I'D LIKE TO CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER AT 5:42 PM AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CHAIR. THIS IS JUDGE LANDER, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT. I MOVE THAT, UH, MR. SMITH, BE ACTING CHAIR UNTIL, UH, THE ARRIVAL OF THE CHAIR. DAVIDSON DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13. I SECOND THAT MOTION. YOU DIDN'T CHAIR ON YOUR MICROPHONE. DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13. I GEEZ. I, I SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. SO BEAR WITH ME GUYS. FIRST TIME IN THE, IN THE BIG SEAT. UM, SO WE HAVE CONFIRMED A QUORUM OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, AND SO WE ARE READY TO PROCEED. UM, WE WILL NOW BEGIN THIS MEETING WITH A ROLL CALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS. EACH OF US HAS BEEN NOMINATED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO SERVE AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. AS I CALL EACH DISTRICT, PLEASE INDICATE YOUR PRESENCE WITH I, UH, START WITH MYSELF. DISTRICT ONE I, DISTRICT TWO. UH, JONATHAN MAY. DISTRICT TWO, PRESENT. DISTRICT THREE. JOHNA HIGGINS. DISTRICT THREE. PRESENT. DISTRICT FOUR. DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. PRESENT. DISTRICT FIVE. BRIAN BAUGH. DISTRICT FIVE, PRESENT. DISTRICT SIX. DEREK GRAM, DISTRICT SIX. PRESENT. DISTRICT SEVEN. TIMOTHY JACKSON, DISTRICT SEVEN. PRESENT. DISTRICT EIGHT. LANDER. DISTRICT EIGHT. PRESENT. UH, DISTRICT NINE. DISTRICT NINE. ABSENT DISTRICT 10. JENNY KING. PRESENT. DISTRICT 10. DISTRICT 11 IS VACANT. DISTRICT 12. DISTRICT 12. D. WADSWORTH. PRESENT. DISTRICT 13. DAVID KENNER. DISTRICT 13. PRESENT. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14. ABSENT DISTRICT 15. UH, CHAIR. UH, DAVIDSON IS RUNNING A LITTLE LATE. HE WILL HOLD HIS PRESENCE. VOTE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE. UH, WE'LL START WITH OUR MISSION. THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS TO STRENGTHEN PUBLIC TRUST BY ENSURING THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT AGAINST DEPARTMENTAL EMPLOYEES ARE INVESTIGATED WITH FAIRNESS, IMPARTIALITY, THOROUGHNESS, AND TRANSPARENCY. IN ADDITION TO REVIEWING MISCONDUCT COMPLAINTS, WE ALSO ANALYZE POLICIES AND RECOMMEND IMPROVEMENTS TO ENHANCE ACCOUNTABILITY AND BETTER SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS. OUR COMMITMENT IS TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY WITH AN ACCESSIBLE, OPEN, AND EFFECTIVE PROCESS FOR ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS. SO AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE ARRIVED AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR MEETING IN LINE WITH OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES, THOUGH I RESERVE THE DISCRETION TO ADJUST THIS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS. IF YOU HAVE NOT YET SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UH, PLEASE SEE A MEMBER OF THE OCPO STAFF AT THE BACK, BACK HERE OF THE ROOM FOR A SPEAKER CARD. PLEASE NOTE THAT WE WILL ALSO HAVE ROOM FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE END OF THE MEETING. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A PRODUCTIVE, RESPECTFUL, AND CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE. TO ACHIEVE THIS, WE MUST ENGAGE WITH STRUCTURE AND MUTUAL RESPECT. I ASK THAT ALL PARTICIPANTS EXTEND COURTESY TO ONE ANOTHER AS WE WORK THROUGH IMPORTANT ISSUES. RESPECT AND KINDNESS ARE PARAMOUNT AS WE DISCUSS MATTERS THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. OH, ALRIGHT. THE FIRST PERSON, UH, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS DOLORES PHILLIPS. WHEN YOU START TALKING, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS. LET'S REWIND AND PLAY BACK FROM DPD REPORT NUMBER 0 2 7 3 2 9 1 8. MAYOR ROLLINS PREARRANGED THAT MEETING BECAUSE OF 9 1 1 CALLS THAT WAS ERASED IN 2009. WHEN YOU LOOKING AT THE FIRST PAGE, WHAT IS WRITTEN AT THE TOP TO THE RIGHT WAS WRITTEN BY DPD. IT SAYS, THIS IS THE FIRST CALL ON THE CD. IN THE ONLY CALL. SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE EIGHT THIRTY THREE CALL I MADE. A EIGHT 17 CALL, A 8 33 CALL, AND A 8:55 PM CALL. THE EIGHT THIRTY THREE [00:05:01] CALL IS SAID TO BE THE ONLY CALL WHEN IN ALL REALITY, THE 8:33 PM CALL IS THE 8:17 PM CALL DUP TWICE TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THE 8:33 PM CALL. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LOCKING UP CITIZENS, REPRIMANDING OFFICERS, AND TAKING POINTS FOR LITTLE END, NOTHING FOR MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE DOING DOWN HERE IS FOR CORRUPTION IN THE COVERUPS, THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM. I HEARD MS. ARNOLD SAY ON THE NEWS, SAID, LET'S BE TRANSPARENT ON THE THIRD, YOU OFFICIALLY RECEIVED A CIVIL COMPLAINT. IT DOESN'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PROPOSITION. SUV. WHERE YOU GOING TO GET IT? RIGHT. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPENSATE MONETARILY FOR YOUR DAMAGES. YOU NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO FILE BANKRUPTCY BECAUSE THIS WAS OVER A DECADE OF INTENTIONAL MALICIOUS NEGLIGENCE. STAY WITH ME. MY DAD WAS THE ONLY PERSON I KNEW HIS FATHER. YOU CAN LAUGH. YOU CAN CALL NUTTY BUDDY. YOU CAN SAY CATCH UP. I WAS NEVER PLAYING. MY FATHER PLEADED WITH ME WITH TEARS IN HIS EYES. DON'T LEAVE ME. I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GO BACK. THAT FABRICATED POLICE REPORT OCTOBER 25TH, 2013, WAS USED BEHIND THE SCENES PR DASH 23 0 3 4 2 9 2 IN PROBATE COURT. NUMBER TWO, THE FABRICATED POLICE REPORT IS REFERENCED DOWN IN NAVERO COUNTY WHERE IT WAS TRANSFERRED FOR FAIR FAIRNESS ON MY MOTION BECAUSE MY DAD'S DEMISE WAS CAUSED BEFORE HIS TIME DUE TO DALLAS, CITY OF DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY NEGLIGENCE. I DON'T CARE ABOUT TAKING BLOWS. YO PUMMELING AND BATTLING IS SO UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY PRESIDENT TRUMP IS PARTNERING ERIC ADAMS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FOUR TEXAS WHISTLEBLOWERS IN THE COURT OF LAW TRYING TO GET THEY JOBS BACK BECAUSE THEY DID WHAT WAS RIGHT. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FEDERAL OFFICIALS, PETER STR LISA PAGE BEING PAID AND SETTLED FOR SETTLEMENT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES, THE APARTMENT OF JUSTICE. YOU THINK ABOUT CORRUPTION LIKE THIS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, ALL DISTURBED PEOPLE. THANK YOU MR. PHILLIPS. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. Y'ALL TUNE IN FOR TOMORROW IN THE MORNING. WE SERVING ON THE RECORD EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED IT BY MAIL. HAVE A GOOD DAY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. YOU TOO, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OH, WILL YOU PLEASE REGISTER ME TO SPEAK FOR MARCH YOUR FIRST MEETING? 2025. SAME SUBJECT. THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, NEXT WE WILL HAVE, UH, JAMES JACKSON. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MR. JACKSON. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THE COUNTER IS, UH, VISIBLE THERE FOR YOU. OKAY. FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BOARD CANNOT BE OVERSTATED BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT'S BETWEEN THE POLICE AND THE CITIZENS WITH THE POLICE ACTING WITH IMPUNITY. MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T THINK HIS MICROPHONE IS ON. HOLD ON. NEED TO CLOSER. YOU GUYS. SPEAK CLOSER. OKAY. THIS IS THE ONLY THING BETWEEN THE CITIZENS AND THE POLICE ACTING WITH COMMUNITY. THIS THE ONLY THING THAT STANDS BETWEEN US. MY PARTICULAR ISSUE IS WITH A DART OFFICER BY THE NAME OF DEREK KAISER. I WAS, I WAS IN A, A, UH, EMPLOYEE VEHICLE DRIVING AT THE CORNER OF LAMAR AND MEMORIAL. THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION HAS RAILROAD CROSSING ARMS. I HAD STAYED AT THAT PARTICULAR LIGHT FOR ABOUT THREE MINUTES AND IT HAD NOT CHANGED. SO I PROCEEDED THROUGH THE LIGHT. OFFICER KAISER PROCEEDED TO COME UP BEHIND ME AND GIVE ME A TICKET FOR RUNNING THAT LIGHT. I ADMIT I RAN THE LIGHT, BUT IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE I WAS THERE FOR AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF TIME. OKAY. I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO HIM THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH THE LIGHT. THAT I HAD BEEN THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. HE DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR IT. HE JUST GAVE ME THE TICKET AND HE WAS ON HIS WAY. SO ME BEING ME, I REQUESTED FOOTAGE OF THE STOP. IT DIDN'T EVEN SHOW ME RUNNING THE LIGHT, ALTHOUGH HE SAID IT DID IN THE FOOTAGE. AND I DID SOME MORE RESEARCH. I GOT IN CONTACT WITH DART AND THEY TOLD ME THAT AT THAT PARTICULAR STOP SIGN, [00:10:01] I MEAN, UH, RED LIGHT, A STOP AND PROCEED HAD BEEN ISSUED. A STOP AND PROCEED IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS. YOU STOP EVEN IF THE LIGHT IS RED, SINCE THERE'S A MALFUNCTIONING, SINCE IT'S MALFUNCTIONING YOU, YOU PROCEED. OFFICER DEREK KAISER BEING A DARK OFFICER, I'M SURE HE KNEW THIS. THERE'S NO WAY HE COULD NOT KNOW NO. BEING AN OFFICER AND HE PROCEEDED TO GIMME A TICKET. ANYWAY, I HAVE ALL THIS ON MY PHONE WHERE A STOP AND PROCEED WAS ISSUED. I HAVE THE DASH CAM FOOTAGE OF, OF ME NOT EVEN, IT'S NOT EVEN HALF FOOTAGE OF ME RUNNING A LIGHT. SO, UH, I FILED THE COMPLAINT WITH DART. OBVIOUSLY THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS MERIT TO MY COMPLAINT BECAUSE THEY FORWARDED THAT COMPLAINT TO, UH, MAJOR SILAS. AND I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM MAJOR SILAS. THIS HAS BEEN, THEY FORWARDED THE COMPLAINT ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM SINCE. AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT WITH MAJOR SILAS TO TELL MY SIDE OF THE STORY, BUT FOR SOME REASON HE WILL NOT CONTACT ME. AND, UH, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MR. JACKSON, JUST FOR A QUESTION FOR CLARITY, MAJOR SILAS IS WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. BUT WHY DART REFERRED IT TO THE ACTUAL DALLAS PD AND NOT DART? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY SENT ME AN EMAIL. SAID IT WAS REFERRED TO HIM. SO LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT WITH HIM. NO LUCK. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT WE HAVE ON PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. LAMAR JACKSON IS MR. LAMAR JACKSON PRESENT? UM, I'D LIKE TO SHARE. MR. JACKSON, CAN YOU SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MIC SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS JAMAR. JJ JEFFERSON. UH, I RESIDE IN DISTRICT SEVEN ON SOUTH DALLAS. UM, UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE A VIDEO THAT YOU'RE GONNA SHARE? YES. I'M TRYING TO, YES. I'M TRYING TO. IS THEY SHARING RIGHT NOW? THEY SHARING RIGHT NOW. OH, OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. CAN YOU MAXIMIZE IT FULL SCREEN? YOU SEE WHAT HE'S DOING TO MY BROTHER THERE A DAB POCKET SIR. CALL THE POLICE. CALL THE POLICE. CALL THE POLICE. LEMME HURT MY BROTHER. CALL THE POLICE HELOC SHOULDER. HE GOT DISLOCATED SHOULDER. WE NEED A SHERIFF AND A MARSHAL OUT HERE RIGHT NOW. IT'S A FEDERAL. IT'S A FEDERAL. THIS IS OBSTRUCTION FEDERAL. JASMINE CROCK ACCEPT. LOOK WHAT THEY DOING THOUGH. LOOK WHAT THEY DOING. WHY HE JUST HIT HIS HEAD ON THE GROUND? THIS IS JASMINE CROCK PEOPLE. 'CAUSE SHE DON'T WANNA ACCEPT YOU CAN'T PUT NOBODY. THIS IS A PUBLIC CRIME. I'M A FEDERAL CANDIDATE. CONTEST HIM FOR ELECTION. AND THIS IS WHAT BROTHER? HE'S HURT. YOU KNOW HIS SHIRT. IT AIN'T PUT CUFFS ON HIM. I GOT BACK, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? I GOT HELP HIS SHOES. AND YOU JUST PUT CUFFS ON HERE. WHY SIR? GET LAW FOR RIGHT. WASN'T LAW FOR RAPE. IT IS NOT CRIMINAL TRESPASSING. THIS WILL BE YOUR HONOR. WE DIDN'T MAKE A DISTURBANCE. THIS MAN GRABBED ME BY MY NECK. WE WAS ALLOWED TO COME IN WHEN WE SAW MS. JASMINE CROCKETT WAKE UP, HE SHOULDER AND STUFF. DISLOCATED AND THEY DRAGGED HIM OUT. WE, I WAS THE PERSON RUNNING AGAINST HER. SHE'S BEEN AVAILABLE WHEREVER SHE MAY BE FOUND. AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, THAT GUY RIGHT THERE, HE PUT [00:15:01] ME IN A AND SQUEEZED MY NECK. I I GONNA PRESS CHARGES ON HIM. WHO THE HELL? HIS DEPARTMENT. WHAT'S YOUR MAN'S NAME? MR. B THOMAS 84. SERGEANT THOMAS AMBULANCE. HE NEEDS AN AMBULANCE. HE NEEDS, HEY, HE NEED, YOU GOT CUFFS AND THE OFFICERS, THEY PUT IT, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? THE AGENT RIGHT THERE. IDENTIFY YOURSELF. THEY GOT CUFFS ON MY BROTHER. THEY DRAGGED HIM OUT LIKE A DOG. I'M SITTING. YOU GOT ONE OFFICER. WHAT'S YOUR NAME? SERGEANT THOMASON. BADGE. 8 4 1 1. WHAT'S YOUR BADGE NUMBER? 1189. BADGE NUMBER. BADGE NUMBER. W DAVIS. BADGE NUMBER. MR. HAMILTON J HAMILTON. 2 1 1. THANKS SO MUCH. BADGE NUMBER, UH, OR 1 2, 9 7. AND MR. HARRIS PUT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 8. DALLAS, COULD Y'ALL IDENTIFY THIS GUY AND GET HIS INFORMATION? I'LL, I'LL SEND IN THE VIDEO. I KNOW I GOT 30 SECONDS. AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, I WAS TREATED INHUMANE IN A PUBLIC BUILDING. THE CITY OF DALLAS OWNS FAIR PARK. THAT WAS A CIVIC EVENT. I HAD A FEDERAL COURT ORDER TO SERVE MS. CROCKETT. AND NONE OF THE OFFICERS, EVEN IN VIOLATION OF THE DALLAS CODE, WOULD IDENTIFY THESE INDIVIDUALS AND THE INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY DID SEND TO ME. HE TOLD ME TODAY THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET THOSE GENTLEMEN IDENTIFIED, I'M ON MY OWN. AND BECAUSE MS. CROCKETT IS IN A POWERFUL POSITION, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD NOT INVESTIGATE CRIMES. I WAS TREATED FOR STRANGULATION. I'M STEADY HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY THROAT, MY HIP. I WAS ATTACKED. AND IF I WOULD'VE MET THEM WITH VIOLENCE, THOSE SEVEN OFFICERS SURROUNDING ME, THEY WOULD'VE PROBABLY BEAT ME UP AND KILLED ME BECAUSE THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE THERE FOR ME AND NOT FOR THE GENTLEMAN. HE WOULDN'T IDENTIFY HIMSELF. AND I FIND OUT THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN AGENTS, THEY'RE JUST REGULAR SECURITY. THAT YOUR TIME IS UP. MR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK HE GONNA CALL YOU. OKAY. IS THIS LAMAR JACKSON? OKAY. AND IT'S JEFFERSON THOMAS JEFFERSON. IT'S JEFFERSON. YOU KEEP SAYING JACKSON. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. THEY WROTE, YEAH, WE RELATED TO THE JEFFERSONS . NO, THEY HAVE IT. JACKSON TWICE DOWN HERE. OKAY. JEFFERSON. WHO'S JEFFERSON? I NEED TO PUSH THE HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS LAMAR YAKA. JEFFERSON, UH, I WAS UNLAWFULLY DETAINED, KIDNAPPED, KICKED IN THE BACK, THREW DOWN IN THE HALLWAY. YOUR OFFICERS, TWO OF 'EM PARTICULAR GRABBED ME BY MY SHOULDER JOINT. I INFORMED ALL THE PARTIES THAT I HAVE PRECONDITIONS AND I HAVE A TORN SHOULDER JOINT. THEY DIDN'T CARE. YOUR OFFICERS GRABBED ME BY THE SHOULDER AND REINJURE MY SHOULDER. AND THEY ALLOW FOR UNNAMED AGENTS WHO I FOUND OUT WERE IMPERSONATING FEDERAL AGENTS, WHICH IS A FEDERAL CRIME TO ASSAULT ME IN FRONT OF EIGHT POLICE OFFICERS. AND NONE OF THEM WOULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THE WHOLE ONLY REACTION WAS, IT'S NOT OUR JURISDICTION. WHERE ARE WE AT IN THE WORLD WHEN A NEGRO MAN CAN BE ATTACKED AND NOBODY WOULD DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IF THAT WAS THEIR MOTHER. ANY OF YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, YOU SHOULD BE APPALLED THAT THE OFFICER SAID WE CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT YOU BEING ATTACKED AND THEN HANDCUFFED BY REGULAR INDIVIDUALS, SECURITY GUARDS WHO DID NOT HAVE DETENTION AUTHORITY. I HAVE. I WAS INSULTED. I WAS, UH, PUBLIC HUMILIATED. MR. JEFFERSON, WHAT, WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE CODES THAT THEY VIOLATED RIGHT THERE ON THE PHONE? I GOT ONE 30. COME ON, MR. JEFFERSON. OKAY. CAN HE SEE YOU THIS TIME TOO? HE COME HERE. MR. JEFFERSON. I GOT 1 22. THEY JUST LISTENING. ANYWAY. SO THE SERGEANT THOMAS, UH, DETECTIVE, UH, EDISON EDWARDS TOLD ME THAT THEY CAN'T, THEY DON'T INVESTIGATE THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, OTHER INDIVIDUALS. I CALLED EVERYBODY FAKE AGENTS. UM, THEY FAILED TO FOLLOW THE GENERAL ORDER. 5 0 7 0.03. I FILED A COMPLAINT. UH, I WAS TOLD THAT THEY DON'T INVESTIGATE THESE THINGS. DUTIES AND POWERS OF POLICE OFFICERS UNDER TEXAS CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE. [00:20:01] 2 1 2 0.13. THEY FAILED TO INVESTIGATE THAT FAILURE TO IDENTIFY INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN THE CRIME. DALLAS PD GENERAL ORDER THREE. 1.31 3.00. THEY FAILURE TO INTERVENE WHEN A CRIMINAL ACT INCLUDING FELONIES BECAUSE HE'S DISABLED. IT CHECKS IS UP TO A FELONY. UH, VIOLATIONS OF US 1983. DUE PROCESS CONSPIRACY, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENTS, THEY HAVE TO BE HELD TO THE SAME EQUAL STANDARDS. 'CAUSE IF I HE TOUCHED ANY OF THOSE OFFICERS, HE DESERVES TO BE IN JAIL. LEMME FINISH WITH THIS. I GOT 15 SECONDS. ULTRA VIRUS ACT BY YOUR DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS. IF THEY ALLOW FOR ANY OF YOUR BROTHERS, YOU, SIR, YOU, IF THEY ALLOW FOR YOU TO BE KIDNAPPED IN FRONT OF THEM, YOU SHOULD BE ANGRY. SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. ULTRA BIAS ACT. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS COMPLETE. UH, MR. JEFFERSON AND MR. JACKSON, I JUST ASK, UH, BASED ON THE, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENT YOU PROVIDED, THAT YOU REACH OUT TO THE DIRECTOR, UM, AND WE WILL DISCUSS AND THEY CAN DISCUSS WITH YOU REGARDING THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE, UM, BROUGHT FORTH TO THIS BOARD, UH, BEFORE US, AND UNDERSTANDING IF THERE'S A DALLAS, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT JURISDICTION. I'VE MADE 50 CALLS TODAY. UH, WHEN YOU SAY THE DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. OKAY. DO Y'ALL HAVE A CARD OR, YES. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER HERE THAT WILL CONNECT WITH YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON. UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS ACTUALLY, UM, A REPORT FROM OUR CITY MANAGER. UM, SHE'S UNABLE TO BE WITH US, UM, AT THIS MOMENT, UH, DUE TO ANOTHER PRESSING ENGAGEMENT. AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE HER, UH, POINTS TO OUR MARCH MEETING. OKAY. UM, SO WE WILL MOVE ON, ON OUR AGENDA TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. UM, SO IF I COULD HAVE, UM, THE BOARD MEMBERS REVIEW THE MINUTES FOR A MINUTE AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THEIR APPROVAL. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, DISTRICT FOUR. I APPROVE THE MINUTES. JONATHAN MAPLES. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE ONE CORRECTION. UM, IT SAYS DATA ANALYST INSTEAD OF POLICY ANALYST. SO LET'S MAKE THAT A REVISION FOR THE RECORD. AND IF WE COULD GET THAT RESUBMITTED, APPROVE THE MINUTES WITH THE NECESSARY CORRECTIONS. PROPERLY MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? JONATHAN MAPLE SECOND, UH, VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MINUTES APPROVED. OKAY. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. EXCUSE ME. WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME A NEW CPOB MEMBER, UH, MR. TIMOTHY JACKSON OF DISTRICT SEVEN. WELCOME, SIR. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WE APPRECIATE YOU FILLING DISTRICT SEVEN SEAT. UH, THANK YOU. I, I APPRECIATE THE WARM WELCOME. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SERVE. I'VE SERVED IN THE CAPACITY AS, UH, THE, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER. UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE A DIFFERENT, UH, SET OF ORDER, IF YOU WILL. BUT, UM, I'M EXCITED TO, UH, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH MY BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE RELATIONS BETWEEN THE, THE CITY. UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S RESIDENTS, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND, UM, THOSE WHO SERVE. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE. THANK YOU, MR. JACKSON. UH, NEXT IS, UH, AGENDA ITEM IS TRAINING, AND WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE'LL BE GOING OVER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER AND AN OVERVIEW OF CHAPTER EIGHT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I KNOW YOU WERE EXCITED TO HEAR FROM MS. TOLBERT, BUT YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME AT LEAST, UH, FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO I'M GONNA DISCUSS CHAPTER EIGHT, WHICH IS ONE OF THE CHAPTERS OF THE CITY CODE THAT DEALS WITH BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. UH, INTERESTING THING ABOUT CHAPTER EIGHT IS THAT A LOT OF IT IS DUPLICATIVE OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. SO I WAS GONNA HIT, UM, SOME OF THE NON ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER STUFF IN CHAPTER EIGHT, AND THEN MOVE INTO ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER MORE GENERALLY. SO, SOME OF THE NON ROBERTS RULES [00:25:01] OF ORDER STUFF THAT IS IN CHAPTER EIGHT IS THE ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH YOU GUYS APPROVED LAST, UH, MONTH. IT'S AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT YOU HAVE TO, THAT EVERY BOARDING COMMISSION HAS TO APPROVE, UH, BY FEBRUARY 1ST OF EACH YEAR. AND IT GETS SENT OFF TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND TO COUNCIL. CHAPTER EIGHT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. EVEN ABSENT THIS PROVISION IN CHAPTER EIGHT. YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH IT UNDER THE, UH, RUBBER STAMP RULE, WHICH COMES FROM A, UM, COMES FROM CASE LAW OUT OF THE SAN ANTONIO COURT OF APPEALS. BUT, UM, SO YOU, YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH TOMA. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THE ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENT. UH, AS I THINK IT WAS ON, I THINK IT WAS LAST MONTH, LAST MONTH'S AGENDA, THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO THE ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENT. BECAUSE THIS BOARD MEETS, UH, ONCE A MONTH, YOUR REQUIRED ATTENDANCE IS, YOU CANNOT MISS MORE THAN 25% OF THE MEETINGS IN A 12 MONTH PERIOD, WHICH IN THIS CASE, IT'S ALWAYS DANGEROUS TO DO MATH IN PUBLIC, RIGHT? BUT 25% OF 12 IS THREE. SO IF YOU MISS MORE THAN THREE, YOU, UH, FORFEIT YOUR SEAT. AND SO EVERYTHING ELSE IN CHAPTER EIGHT REALLY IS ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER. THERE'S A PROVISION IN CHAPTER EIGHT THAT SAYS YOUR PROCEEDINGS UNLESS, UH, CHAPTER EIGHT, DEVIATES FROM IT, YOU FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES. AND I'LL HIT SOME OF THE, THE WEIRD THINGS WHERE THE CITY CODE SAYS, WE'RE GONNA DEVIATE FROM WHAT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER DECIDES. BUT GENERALLY, THE PURPOSE OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER IS TO LET THE MAJORITY DECIDE AND LET THE MINORITIES VOICE, UH, BE HEARD. IT'S SUPPOSED TO MAKE MEETINGS MORE EFFICIENT. BUT I SOMETIMES JOKE, THIS IS A 700 PAGE BOOK. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU NEED 700 PAGES TO MAKE A MEETING MORE EFFICIENT, BUT SORT OF WHERE WE ARE, AND I, I SORT OF LIKE THIS QUOTE, AND I'M NOT GONNA READ IT TO Y'ALL, BUT IT, THE, THE IDEA IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA MAKE MEETINGS EFFICIENT, FAIR, LET A DECISION BE DECIDED AND LET THE MINORITY BE HEARD. SO THERE ARE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 TYPES OF MOTIONS. AND WE'LL GO INTO EACH OF THEM. BUT THE MAIN MOTION IS THE MAIN MOTION. IT'S WHAT THE BODY'S DOING. A SUBSIDIARY MOTION IS, UH, IT'S LIKE, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE MAIN MOTION. IT WOULD BE, UH, AN, A MOTION TO HOLD TO A TIME OR DAY CERTAIN, A PRIVILEGED MOTION WOULD BE LIKE. UM, THE MOTION TO ADJOURN THAT YOU GUYS WILL DO LATER THIS EVENING IS A PRIVILEGED MOTION. A MOTION TO RECESS IS A PRIVILEGED MOTION. INCIDENTAL MOTIONS OR LIKE APPEALS OF THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR. SUSPENSION OF THE RULES AND RECONSIDERATION ARE TECHNICALLY INCIDENTAL MOTIONS. BUT I SORT OF BREAK THEM OUT JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY RECONSIDERATION HAS TO OPERATE UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. SO THAT'S WHY THAT IS ITS OWN, UH, BULLET POINT THERE. AND SO LET'S START THE MAIN MOTION. THE MAIN MOTION IS WHAT BEGINS DEBATE. UM, IT MUST BE SECONDED. SO LIKE WHEN YOU GUYS JUST APPROVED YOUR MINUTES, SOMEONE MADE A MOTION, IT WAS SECONDED. YOU COULD DEBATE THE MINUTES IF YOU WANTED TO. AND THE, THE DEBATE HAS TO BE CONFINED TO WHAT THE MOTION IS. IF THE MOTION IS TO, YOU KNOW, UH, LET'S I MOVE TO PAINT THE CAR RED, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOR DINNER AFTER THE MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU HAVE TO CONFINE YOUR REMARKS TO WHAT THE, THE MOTION IS. AND, UM, YOU CAN WITHDRAW THE MOTION UP UNTIL UP UNTIL THE POINT OF TIME WHEN THE MOTION IS STATED BY THE CHAIR VOTING. SO UNDER ROBERT'S RULES, THE CHAIR DOESN'T ACTUALLY VOTE, THE CHAIR JUST PRESIDES OVER THE MEETING. BUT CHAPTER EIGHT SAYS, NO, NOT IN DALLAS. YOU GUYS GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS TO MAKE DECISIONS, THEREFORE, YOU HAVE TO DECIDE THINGS. SO THE CHAIR VOTES JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE. AND SO YOU HAVE TO VOTE UNLESS THERE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT PROHIBITS YOU FROM VOTING. I THINK I SKIPPED ONE. SO MOTION TO HOLD TO A TIME CERTAIN OR DEFER LATER IN THE MEETING. THIS IS A SUBSIDIARY MOTION THAT TAKES, UM, PRECEDENCE OVER THE MAIN MOTION. SO IF YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, MOVE TO DO WHATEVER, AND I DECIDE I'M GOING TO HOLD THIS, UH, MATTER UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, EVEN THOUGH YOU MADE YOUR MAIN MOTION TO ACCOMPLISH WHATEVER THE, THE MOTION TO HOLD TO A TIME CERTAIN IS A MORE IS HIGHER UP IN THE CHAIN OF MOTIONS. SO THAT'S WHAT THE BODY WOULD CONSIDER AT THAT POINT IN TIME. IT'S SORT OF SIMILAR IN THAT IT REQUIRES A SECOND. IT'S DEBATABLE, AMENDABLE, AND IT'S SUBJECT TO A MAJORITY VOTE. UH, AMENDMENTS ARE ALSO SUBSIDIARY MOTIONS. THEY A AMEND THE MAIN MOTION [00:30:01] MUST BE SECONDED, DEBATABLE, AMENDABLE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. A CONTRARY MOTION IS OUT OF ORDER. AND THAT'S A, THAT BULLET POINT IS DO IS ONLY A COUPLE WORDS, BUT IT'S DOING A LOT OF WORK THERE. WHAT A CONTRARY AMENDMENT IS, IS SORT OF FOR PARLIAMENTARY GEEKS IS SORT OF FASCINATING THING. BUT, UH, THE WAY I SORT OF CONCEPTUALLY THINK ABOUT IT IS IF I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, AND THAT'S SECONDED. SOMEONE CANNOT DO AN AMENDMENT TO INSERT THE WORD NOT RIGHT. SO I CAN'T, SO THEY WOULD READ, I MOVE TO NOT APPROVE THE MINUTES. THAT'S JUST A CONTRARY MOTION THAT IS, UH, CONTRARY TO THE MAIN MOTION AND THEREFORE IT'S OUT OF ORDER. WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF YOU DON'T WANNA APPROVE THE MINUTES IS YOU VOTE NO AGAINST THE MAIN MOTION AND YOU TRY TO JUST KILL IT THAT WAY. AND THEN AMENDMENTS YOU ALWAYS VOTE ON BEFORE THE MAIN MOTION THAT THEY APPLY TO, UH, FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS TECHNICALLY DO NOT EXIST IN THIS BOOK, BUT THE CUSTOM IN THE CITY OF DALLAS IS TO ALLOW FOR FRIENDLY, FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS. IF THE MAKER OF THE MAIN MOTION AND THE SECOND BOTH AGREE, IT'S JUST A WAY TO MAKE THE MEETING MORE EFFICIENT, RIGHT? THAT'S THE IDEA BEHIND ROBERT'S RULE. SO THAT'S SORT OF THE CUSTOM BEHIND FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS IS, UM, LET'S JUST MAKE THE MEETING MORE EFFICIENT RATHER THAN VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION BEFORE WE ONCE AGAIN VOTE ON THE MAIN MOTION RECONSIDERATION. SO RECONSIDERATION IS AN INTERESTING BEAST. IT'S A WAY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK THAT THE BODY HAS ALREADY DECIDED, AND IT IS CAN ONLY BE MADE BY SOMEONE OF THE PREVAILING SIDE. AND PREVAILING SIDE IN MOST INSTANCES WOULD BE THE, IT'S THE SIDE THAT WON, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE MAJORITY. SO IF YOU CONSIDER, UH, SOMETHING THAT HAS LIKE A TWO THIRDS VOTE REQUIREMENT, THE PREVAILING SIDE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT 33, ASSUMING IT DOESN'T PASS, RIGHT? THE PREVAILING SIDE, UH, COULD BE THAT MINORITY, RIGHT? SO FOR EXAMPLE, UH, LET ME, LET ME JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE. SO YOU HAVE A TWO THIRDS VOTE. AND FOR YOU GUYS, A TWO THIRDS VOTE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE YOU NEED 10 PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR, RIGHT? THERE ARE 15 OF Y'ALL. TWO THIRDS OF 15 IS 10. SO, BUT IF IT FAILS NINE TO 7, 6, 9 TO SIX, THE PREVAILING SIDE IS AT SIX. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S LESS, IT, EVEN THOUGH SIX IS LESS THAN, OR YEAH, SIX IS LESS THAN NINE, THAT'S STILL THE PREVAILING SIDE. THAT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE WEIRD IDIOSYNCRATIC THINGS ABOUT RECONSIDERATION. BUT RECONSIDERATION BRINGS THE ITEM BACK AND IT'S SORT OF UNDOES THAT ORIGINAL ACTION. SO YOU'RE BACK WHERE YOU ARE. SO YOU WOULD GET TO VOTE ON THAT ITEM AGAIN. THE ONE SORT OF CAVEAT, AND THE REASON WHY I BREAK IT UP, UH, DIFFERENTLY IN THAT ORIGINAL SLIDE IS BECAUSE UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC THAT YOU'RE GONNA CONSIDER THIS ITEM. SO IF YOU WANT TO RECONSIDER SOMETHING FROM THE JANUARY, Y'ALL'S JANUARY MEETING, YOU COULD DO THAT PROVIDED THAT IT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY. AND IF YOU WANT TO, UM, DO THAT, YOU JUST HAVE TO GET WITH STAFF AND LET STAFF KNOW, HEY, I INTEND TO MAKE THIS MOTION TO RECONSIDER THIS ITEM SO THAT WE CAN GET IT PROPERLY NOTICED. AND THEN DEBATE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE EVERYTHING I I LEARNED OR EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW I LEARNED IN KINDERGARTEN, RIGHT? DON'T BE JERKS, HAVE CIVIL DEBATES. IT'S FINE TO DISAGREE, BUT DON'T BE A JERK ABOUT IT IS BASICALLY THE IDEA ON ROBERT'S RULES. AND LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU HAVE TO CONFINE YOUR REMARKS TO, UH, THE ITEM UNDER CONSIDERATION. UH, CHAPTER EIGHT SAYS THAT YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK TWICE ON AN ITEM AND NO LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES. UM, UNLESS YOU GET A TWO THIRDS VOTE REQUIRED, UNLESS TWO THIRDS OF THE BODY AGREES TO HEAR FROM YOU A THIRD TIME, YOU HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR. YOU SHOULDN'T INTERRUPT EACH OTHER, RIGHT? DON'T BE JERKS. LIKE THAT'S SORT OF THE IDEA BEHIND THAT. AND THEN ONCE IT'S TIME TO VOTE, WE'RE VOTING, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NO LONGER DEBATING. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YES OR NO, YAY OR NAY KIND OF THING. AND THEN, UH, CHAPTER EIGHT ALLOWS FOR ANY MEMBER TO REQUEST A ROLL CALL VOTE, WHICH WOULD BE A VOTE WHERE WE SAY, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO, RATHER THAN JUST, UH, EVERYONE SHOUTING YES OR NO. UM, THAT SECOND BULLET POINT A MEMBER WHO THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN ROBERT'S RULES, BUT UNDER CHAPTER EIGHT, [00:35:01] A MEMBER WHO IS PRESENT BUT IS EITHER IN THE BACK ROOM AND THE RESTROOM, WHERE HAVE YOU THAT, BUT THEY'RE NOT ABSENT FROM THE MEETING, UH, THEY ARE COUNTED AS VOTING YES, BECAUSE WE SORT OF NEED AN ANSWER. AND IT GOES BACK TO, UH, THAT EARLIER SLIDE THAT SAYS, YOU GUYS HAVE TO VOTE. UM, WE NEED A DECISION. AND YOU CAN'T SORT OF WALK A VOTE TO TRY AND, UH, NOT MAKE A DECISION. UH, SO IF YOU JUST SIT THERE AND DON'T ANSWER, YOU'RE GONNA BE COUNTED AS VOTING YES. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND, I GUESS. UH, AND THEN YOU'RE, LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO VOTE UNLESS YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND THEN SOME MISCELLANEOUS STUFF. ROBERT'S RULE SAYS YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE MEETING WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE CHAIR, BUT I SORT OF THINK YOU GUYS ARE ADULTS. UM, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T LOSE QUORUM, RIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, DO YOUR THING. I GUESS, UH, YOU CAN, ANY MEMBER CAN ASK THE CHAIR TO ENFORCE THE RULES. SO IF YOU THINK SOMEONE IS, YOU KNOW, NO LONGER MAKING THEIR DEBATES CONFINED TO THE MATTER BEFORE THE BODY, YOU CAN DO A POINT OF ORDER. YOU'VE SEEN THAT A LOT WITH CITY COUNCIL. IT DOESN'T REALLY HAPPEN AT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S A MECHANISM THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO. UH, TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE. UM, APPEALS OF THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR. IF THE CHAIR MAKES A DECISION THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH, YOU CAN MOVE TO APPEAL THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR. IT WOULD REQUIRE A SECOND AND A MAJORITY VOTE, AND THEN THE BODY CAN JUST, UH, DECIDE THAT THE CHAIR WAS WRONG. AND THERE, UH, EXPLANATION OF THE RULE OR ENFORCEMENT OF THE RULES OR ET CETERA, CITY STAFF. SO STAFF AND THE PUBLIC HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME, UH, DECORUM RULES APPLICABLE TO YOU ALL, WHICH IS THOSE DECORUM RULES ARE THE DON'T BE JERKS RULES. UM, WHEN, UH, THE PUBLIC SPEAK, THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE CHAIR, NOT YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY. AND, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT FROM THIS SLIDE. LET'S SEE. SOME FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. DO YOU LOSE A QUORUM IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? SO IF YOU HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, RIGHT? YOU DON'T SIT AT THE HORSESHOE, YOU GO IN THE BACK ROOM OR WHATEVER. BUT, UM, SO IF YOU HAVE EXACTLY EIGHT PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE MINIMUM, WHICH IS THE, THE, THE MINIMUM AMOUNT FOR THE QUORUM, THE EIGHTH PERSON GOES IN THE BACK ROOM. NOW THERE'S ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE AT THE DAIS. WHAT DO WE DO? WELL, WE SAY THAT AS LONG AS YOU'RE STILL IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING MAGICAL ABOUT THE BUILDING, UM, YOU'RE STILL COUNTED FOR PURPOSES OF THE QUORUM REQUIREMENT. YOU JUST DON'T VOTE. UM, SO THAT'S SORT OF AN INTERESTING THING. I'VE HEARD STORIES OF CITY ATTORNEYS HAVING TO CHASE PEOPLE DOWN AND SAY, HEY, YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW HOW TRUE THAT IS, BUT THAT'S SORT OF WHAT SOME PEOPLE TELL ME THEY'VE DONE BEFORE. UH, WHAT HAPPENS IF NO ONE MAKES A MOTION? IF NO ONE MAKES A MOTION, THEN THE BODY FAILED TO TAKE ANY ACTION AND THE ITEM IS DENIED AND THE STATUS QUO IS PRESERVED. CAN YOU HAVE DISCUSSION BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE? NO, WE NEED, UH, WE NEED A MOTION OUT THERE SO THAT WE CAN DEBATE THE MOTION. THAT'S SORT OF, ONCE A MOTION IS MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED, THAT IS, UM, THE MECHANISM BY WHICH WE CAN BEGIN DEBATE. YES. DO I NOW I I'D HAVE TO TOUCH THE BUTTON AND THEN LEAVE MY HANDS OFF. UM, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IF NO ONE MAKES A MOTION AND THEN THUSLY, IT'S DENIED, IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM ROBERT'S RULES? IS THAT A CITY SECTION EIGHT THING? CHAPTER EIGHT THING Y YEAH. SO, UH, ROBERT'S RULES WILL TELL YOU THAT THE STATUS QUO IS PRESERVED. UM, I WILL TELL, I WILL STAND THERE IF YOU GUYS DON'T WANNA MAKE A MOTION. YOU'RE LIKE, WE'RE, WE'VE HAD ENOUGH IN THIS, WE JUST WANNA ADJOURN. I WILL STAND THERE AND ASK YOU PLEASE TO MAKE A MOTION JUST SO THAT THE MINUTES ARE CLEANER. AND SO STAFF HAS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN GO TO AND SAY, OH, THIS, THIS ITEM WAS DENIED. RIGHT? UM, BUT IF YOU GUYS JUST WANTED TO ADJOURN RIGHT NOW, CHAPTER EIGHT WOULD SAY THAT THE ITEMS ARE DENIED. ROBERT'S RULES WOULD SAY THE, THE STATUS QUO WAS PRESERVED, WHICH WAS NOT THE, UH, NOT STARTING THE INVESTIGATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE. I WAS THAT HELPFUL? YES. SO JUST MAYBE [00:40:01] CLARITY ON, ON THAT. I'LL RESTATE IF LET'S SAY THERE'S SOMETHING ON OUR AGENDA AND WE DECIDE WE DON'T WANNA VOTE ON IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY MM-HMM . UM, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE ALREADY MADE A MOTION TO CONSIDER THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE DISCUSS, WE WOULD HAVE A SECOND, THEN WE'D HAVE DISCUSSION. RIGHT? THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY, WE, WE REALLY ALREADY HAVE A MOTION TO VOTE. WE'D SAY, ALL IN FAVOR, YAY OR NAY. RIGHT? RIGHT. THEORETICALLY YOU COULD WITHDRAW THAT MOTION. OKAY? THAT MOTION COULD BE WITHDRAWN AND NOW THERE'S NOTHING TECHNICALLY BEFORE THE BODY. OKAY? BUT ALSO LIKE A MOTION TO, IF YOU'VE MADE YOUR MOTION, IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED, YOU'VE DEBATED, IF SOMEONE HAS THE FLOOR AND SAYS, HEY, I MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING, THAT BECOMES THE NEW ITEM BEFORE THE BODY. JUST BECAUSE THAT'S A PRIVILEGED MOTION AND IT RANKS HIGHER IN THE TERMS IN THE MOTIONS OF, OKAY. SO CLEVER. YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF PARLIAMENTARY TRICKS THAT I HOPE YOU GUYS DON'T DO BECAUSE I'M NOT THAT GOOD AT ROBERT'S RULES. SO PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME FLIP THROUGH A BUNCH OF PAGES REAL QUICK TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT THE ANSWER. BUT THAT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IF SOMEONE WAS REALLY OPPOSED TO IT COULD DO, AND THE BODY WOULD VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO ADJOURN AT THAT POINT IN TIME. AND ASSUMING YOU'VE ADUR MOVE, ASSUMING THAT THE BODY HAS ADJOURNED, ADJOURNED IS A MAGIC WORD, RIGHT? LIKE EVERYTHING FOR THE MEETING IS OVER, UM, AT THAT POINT IN TIME. AND SO EVERY THAT, THE, THE ORIGINAL THING WOULD BE DENIED AND THE STATUS QUO WOULD BE PRESERVED. YEP. CHAIRMAN SMITH. YES. JUST A LITTLE LEVITY. UM, THE REASON MR. ROBERTS CAME UP WITH THE RULES WAS HE WAS AT A CHURCH MEETING AND IT BECAME SO CONTENTIOUS THAT THEY WENT OUTSIDE TO FIGHT . I HAVE HEARD THAT. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A, UH, THERE'S A NATIONAL PARLIAMENTARIAN ASSOCIATION THAT SOME OF THE, I'M A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PARLIAMENTARIAN. YES. SOME OF THE ATTORNEYS GO AND THEY SAY THE PEOPLE WHO, UH, GEEK OUT THE MOST ON THIS STUFF ARE THE, THE CHURCH GROUPS. SO STILL ALL THESE YEARS LATER, THAT IS TRUE. MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, JUDGE. UM, ONE POINT THAT SEEMS TO BE A CONFLICT, WHAT YOU'VE JUST STATED, YOU INDICATED THAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL HAS A CONFLICT, THEY COULD STEP INTO THE BACK AND, UH, THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERED TO BE PRESENT. UM, BUT THEN, BUT BEFORE THAT YOU SAID THAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS PRESENT AND DOESN'T VOTE, THEN IT IS ASSUMED THAT THEY HAVE VOTED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE SO THAT THOSE ARE INTERNALLY INCONSISTENT. RIGHT? THAT THAT'S AN SO I, I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE SAID, UNLESS YOU HAVE A CONFLICT, IF YOU ARE NOT PRESENT, UM, YOU ARE RECORDED IS VOTING YES. DOES ONE ANNOUNCE I HAVE A CONFLICT AND THEN STEP OUT? USUALLY THE CHAIR WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, UM, SO AND SO HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM, AND THEY, OR NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT SO AND SO HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM AND THEY'VE EXITED THE ROOM. OKAY. YES. AND THEN LASTLY, WHAT DO WE DO IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO? AND THE ANSWER SORT OF IS THE CHAIR MAKES A RULING THAT PRESERVES ORDER ALLOWS THE MAJORITY TO DECIDE, BUT THE MINORITY TO HAVE ITS VOICE HEARD. AND I BELIEVE YEP. THAT IS THE LAST SLIDE. SO I, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. SO HAVE YOU BEEN TO OUR MEETINGS PRETTY REGULARLY BEFORE? YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. ARE THERE ANY OF THESE RULES THAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO STUDY EXTRA OR THAT WE ARE NOT DOING WELL ON? NO, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT. SUPER GOOD. THANKS. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, CAN I GET A COPY OF THAT? I, I JUST LIKE THE WAY IT'S BROKEN DOWN. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I CAN, UM, FORWARD IT, UH, TO, TO ALL, ALL OF Y'ALL. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BOARD? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE THAT TRAINING. UM, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO, UH, REQUEST, EXCUSE ME, A MOTION, UH, THAT WE, UH, TAKE THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORTS AND BRIEFING AND MOVE IT PRIOR TO OUR REPORTS AND BRIEFING FROM THE OFFICE, UM, JUST FOR COURTESY AND, UM, FOR OUR, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. SO I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR SUCH SO MOVED SECOND. I SECOND PROBABLY MOVED. AND SECOND. ALL [00:45:01] IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? I GUESS I SHOULD ASK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DEBATE IT, BUT I'M TRYING TO STAY FRIENDLY, I GUESS. ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS TIME, UH, WE WILL, UH, MOVE TO MAJOR, UH, ANTHONY GREER WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S REPORTS AND BRIEFING. HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON, NOON OR EVENING. I HAVE SOME OF MY INTERNAL AFFAIRS STAFF HERE WITH US TODAY. YOU GUYS ARE STAND UP. I JUST WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE, THE WORK THAT THE BOARD DOES. AND, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE BEGIN OUR WORK AT THE, UH, IED, UM, WITH YOU, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL CAN, CAN YOU INTRODUCE, UH, YOUR FOLKS AND LET US KNOW WHAT THEY DO? SURE. IT'S SERGEANT JUAN, UH, RANGE IS A SERGEANT AT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, MS. COLEMAN. DETECTIVE MS. CARTER IS A SERGEANT AND SERGEANT LUSTER. AND EACH, UH, WE HAVE THREE, UM, UNITS IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS WITHIN THE UNIT. EACH ONE HAS, UM, I THINK SOME HAVE TWO SERGEANTS, SOME HAVE THREE SERGEANTS, BUT EACH ONE OF OUR SERGEANTS HEADS ONE OF THOSE UNITS. AND THEN WE HAVE DETECTIVES THAT WORK UNDERNEATH EACH ONE OF THOSE SERGEANTS. EACH UNIT IS HEADED BY A LIEUTENANT, UH, LIEUTENANT MORRIS. I'M SURE HE'S A FAMILIAR FACE. UM, THE OTHER TWO LIEUTENANTS, WE HAD SOME, SOME PREVIOUS ISSUES, SO THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY. BUT, UH, EACH ONE OF THOSE UNITS IS HEADED BY A LIEUTENANT. AND MOST OF THE TIME WE'RE HERE TODAY, BUT JUST DOWN TO ONE DAY. BUT, UH, THANK YOU EACH, EACH WEEK WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS TRY TO, EACH MONTH RATHER, WE'LL TRY TO HAVE MORE STAFF HERE. 'CAUSE AGAIN, I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY SEES WHAT WE DO AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE DO, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE. SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE GOAL HERE IS THE, AGAIN, SAME GOAL THAT WE HAVE IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS. UM, THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF? GOOD, GOOD. UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON HERE TO THE FIRST CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING UNIT'S FINAL, UH, REPORT. YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT, UH, THAT'S A REPORT THAT'S GONNA BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC ON FRIDAY. WE HAVE IT HERE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF TIME, SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE? I HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICE UNIT HERE WITH US REPORT. THAT'S WILL NOT BE PUBLIC. WE DON'T HAVE IT SENT VIA EMAIL. IT WILL SEND VIA EMAIL. YEP. YEAH. UM, BUT, UM, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT, I GUESS IN YOUR, IN YOUR EMAIL. BUT, UM, I HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICE UNIT HERE, OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD REGARDING THAT REPORT, UH, TO ANSWER 'EM, UM, IF YOU DID HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THAT REPORT. THE REPORT WAS MEANT, UM, THE KEY UNITS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHAT WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, WHAT WE ARE ACCOMPLISHED AGAINST IS KIND OF SELF-POLICING. WE WANNA TRY TO GET AHEAD OF ANY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH ANY OF THE KEY UNITS IN THE DEPARTMENT, AND ONE OF THOSE UNITS BEING THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON THE FIRST REPORT IS THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS REPORT. NOW, UM, AS YOU READ THAT, YOU SHOULD SEE 17, UH, KEYS, UH, THAT ARE AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT, THAT ALL OF THOSE WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. AND I'LL SAY THIS, IT'S NO, UH, BODY OR ANYTHING ON EARTH, THAT'S 100%, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO GET TO 100%. AND THOSE 17 KEYS ARE TO HELP US ALONG TOWARDS THAT GOAL. UH, YOU'LL GET TO REVIEW THOSE IN THAT, IN THAT REPORT. UM, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE REPORT? THANK YOU. UM, ALLISON GRANTER, ALLEN DISTRICT NINE, WHEN CHIEF GARCIA CAME AND TALKED TO US ABOUT THE, UM, CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING UNIT, HE POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS, AT, AT ITS INCEPTION, FOUR FOCUSES THAT THEY WANTED TO, UM, LOOK INTO AND MAKE SURE THAT DEPARTMENT STANDARDS WERE, UM, IN KEEPING WITH BEST PRACTICES. AND HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THOSE AREAS OF FOCUS WOULD BE REVISITED PERIODICALLY, AT LEAST ANNUALLY, TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY NEW AREAS THAT NEED TO BE, UM, FOCUSED ON FOR THE OFFICE OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING. MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE NEW AREAS ADDED FOR FOCUS NEXT YEAR OR THIS YEAR, I SUPPOSE AS IT'S FEBRUARY? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JULIO GONZALEZ. I'M THE COMMANDER OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING UNIT. TO MY LEFT IS MADDIE ZO. SHE'S THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING ADVISOR FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME HERE. UM, AND, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SO YOUR QUESTION WAS, WHAT WILL BE THE POINTS OF EMPHASIS FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR? YES. OKAY. UM, SO FROM A, UH, LARGER PERSPECTIVE, UM, AND WHEN I SAY LARGER PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN MORE SO ON OUR STRATEGIC REVIEWS, UM, WHICH ARE EVEN MORE IN DEPTH THAN, UM, THIS LIMITED SCOPE REVIEW OF THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS [00:50:01] DIVISION. WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON IS GOING TO BE USE OF FORCE, OUR TRAINING, UM, OUR PROPERTY ROOM, AND OUR ARREST PROCEDURES. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE LARGER, UM, PROJECTS THAT WE TAKE ON AS A, UH, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE FOURTH ONE? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. OUR ARREST PROCEDURES. ARREST PROCEDURES. THANK YOU. SO, UM, THOSE ARE KIND OF THE LARGE SCALE PROJECTS, AND SO THEY, THEY TAKE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. UM, AND IN BETWEEN THOSE LARGER PROJECTS, WE'RE ABLE TO KEY IN ON CERTAIN AREAS OF THE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT. SO THOSE, I THINK WERE THE SAME AREAS OF FOCUS WHEN CHIEF GARCIA CAME AND PRESENTED TO US. HAS ANYTHING CHANGED OR DO YOU ANTICIPATE ADDING OR SUBTRACTING ANY OF THOSE MAJOR AREAS OF FOCUS? I ANTICIPATE KEEPING THOSE SAME AREAS OF FOCUS AND, UM, HERE IN NEXT MONTH OR THE MONTH AFTER THAT, I'M NOT SURE WE'LL BE COMING OUT WITH, UH, UH, ONE OF THE REPORTS ON USE OF FORCE REPORTING. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR, UM, THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING UNIT? WHO'S THAT? THANKS GUYS. THANK YOU FRIEDMAN. AND I'M SORRY, JUST WANTED TO, UH, MAKE NOTE. UM, WE HAVE THE DALE CARMEN CONSULTING ON THE LINE. YES, SIR. THAT'S, UH, A PART OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING UNIT, AND HE WAS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD FOR, UH, OKAY. I JUST WANNA ALERT THE BOARD IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. HE'S AVAILABLE. OKAY. NONE BACK TO YOU. OKAY. UM, WELL, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO, WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE OUR, OUR LETTERS THAT GO OUT TO CITIZENS REGARDING THEIR EXTERNAL COMPLAINTS. THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. OF COURSE, WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, DIRECTOR IN HER OFFICE. UH, AND AS WE DO THAT, WE ALSO UPDATE THE, OUR WEBSITE. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE WEBSITE NOW, COMPARED TO WHAT IT WAS, IF YOU COULD, UH, A FEW MONTHS AGO, YOU'LL SEE SUBTLE CHANGES ON 'EM, SOME MAJOR CHANGES IN THE, THE STRUCTURE OF IT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UH, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE USER FRIENDLY, UH, BRING IT UP TO MODERN STANDARDS. UH, SOME OF THE INPUT THAT WE'VE HAD FROM THE DIRECTOR HAS BEEN, UH, A KEY IN, IN, IN, IN ACCOMPLISHING THAT. AND, UH, AS WE GET THAT INFORMATION, WE MEET REGULARLY AND WE IMPLEMENT THAT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE ON THE WEBSITE. UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FROM THE REPORTS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I JUST HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED, UM, WE DISCUSSED THE AREAS. UM, IS THERE GONNA BE LIKE, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO IMPROVE AND IMPLEMENT AND BE SUCCESSFUL IN THESE, UH, STRATEGIC AREAS. UM, MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE LIKE A DASHBOARD, ARE THERE LIKE KEY METRICS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED? I MEAN, FOR ONE TRAINING, HOW DO YOU LOOK AT THAT? WOULD YOU SAY THAT WE WANT TO GET 100% TRAINED IN X UM, USE OF FORCE, WE WANT TO REDUCE USE OF FORCE TO A MINIMUM OR TO A NUMBER THAT WE QUOTE IS A BENCHMARK STANDARD? WHAT METRICS ARE WE USING TO SAY THIS IS, THIS IS OUR GOAL. OBVIOUSLY WE WON'T GET TO PERFECT, BUT ARE THERE, UH, SPECIFIC METRICS IDENTIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENT? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FOUR METRICS? THAT'S FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING UNIT, CORRECT? OH, THEY JUST LEFT. OH, . THAT KIND OF SPEAKS TOWARDS THEIR, UH, THEIR AREA, AREA OF EXPERTISE AND AS FAR AS WHAT, UH, HOW THEY'RE MEASURING THOSE METRICS. AND UM, I DON'T KNOW IF DR. DALE CARMEN IS STILL ON THE LINE. I DON'T SEE, I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION AND GET IT BACK TO THE BOARD, UM, THROUGH THE FORM OF EMAIL OR LETTER. OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. JUST SO WE KNOW, ARE THINGS TRENDING UP, DOWN FLAT NEGATIVE? APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S ALL. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MAJOR GREER, UH, WE WILL GO BACK TO, UH, ROMAN NUMERAL SEVEN, OUR REPORTS AND BRIEFINGS. I'LL TURN IT TO DIRECTOR ANDRE. LET ME JUST FIND MY NOTES FOR THE MEETING. SO I'LL ADD SOME JUST FLUFF TIME HERE WHILE DIRECTOR ANDREA IS FINDING HER NOTES. UH, JUST WANNA THANK YOU, UH, MA, UH, MAJOR GREER, UM, AND YOUR STAFF FOR COMING. UM, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE IN HERE. WE KNOW THAT IN THE PAST WE HAVE ASKED FOR PRESENCE, UM, FROM IAD [00:55:01] IN OUR MEETINGS, PHYSICAL PRESENCE. UM, IT WASN'T REALLY, UM, ADHERED TO I GUESS THE WAY WE WANT IT, BUT SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION, I CAN SAY THAT ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE COMMITTED TO THUS FAR, UM, YOU HOLD TO. SO WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING AND SITTING IN. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WELL. THANK YOU. VERY WELCOME. VERY WELCOME. I HAVE A PRETTY SHORT, UM, UPDATE. SO I'M GONNA JUST NOTE, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AS FAR AS, UM, MY REPORT. UM, SO THE F SO OUT OF THE FIVE POSITIONS ARE FILLED WITH THE COMPLAINT INTAKE THAT WAS VACANT. AN OFFER HAS BEEN MADE WITH A START DATE OF FEBRUARY 24TH. UM, SO THAT'S JUST GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, IN REGARDS TO HIRING. UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS OPERATIONAL, I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AS FAR AS THIS FOLLOW UP TO, UM, BOB SCALE'S, PRESENTATIONAL RACIAL DISPARITIES, DPD ARREST REPORT THAT THE BOARD HAD REQUESTED, UM, ARE LOOKING TO, UM, ADD THAT PRESENT, THAT DASHBOARD THAT WAS CREATED FOR THE BOARD, UM, INTO OUR DASHBOARD. WE'RE EXPLORING THAT. UM, THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, UP, UM, INTERIM CHIEF IGEL, UM, EXPRESS OFFER TO, UM, SPONSOR AN INDEPENDENT STUDY ON THE SUBJECT. AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE HIM UP ON THAT OFFER. I HAVE FORWARDED TO THE BOARD THAT, UM, TO SUGGEST SOME COMPANIES OR, UM, RESEARCHERS THAT WE COULD, UM, RESEARCH AND, UM, LOOK TO PARTNER WITH ON THAT STUDY. UM, I HAVE RECEIVED SOME RESPONSES TO SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT SUBJECT. UM, AND THEN, UM, SO WE'LL BE, UM, LETTING YOU KNOW VERY SOON, UM, HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN TEXAS A AND M UNI, UM, UNIVERSITY OF SCHOOL OF LAW, UM, THAT MOU WITH THE CITY IS STILL UNDER REVIEW FOR US TO GET RESEARCHERS, UM, FOR THE STUDENTS TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THE POLICY. UM, I'LL PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE ONCE I HAVE MORE. UM, IN REGARDS TO THE SEARCH, JUST TO GIVE YOU QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT, I KNOW, UM, THE CITY MANAGER COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO JUST, THE CITY DID ANNOUNCE, MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE SEARCH FOR THE NEXT, UM, DALLAS POLICE CHIEF. UM, I DID SHARE WITH THE CHIEF ARTISTS, THE CHIEF OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, THE BOARD'S INTEREST AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT AS WELL AS MY INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING, CONSIDERING WE WOULD BE WORKING TOGETHER. UM, AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW, UM, ONCE THEY HAVE MORE DETAILS, CHIEF ARTISTS IS STILL FINALIZING SOME DETAILS AND WOULD PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THE SELECTION PROCESS SOON. IN REGARDS TO, UM, AN UPDATE I WANTED TO ALSO PROVIDE AS FAR AS A HUNDRED DAY PLAN UPDATE, I WILL BE PRESENTING THAT FOR THE MARCH MEETING, UM, FOR YOUR REVIEW AND FEEDBACK. UM, I'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UM, EVENTS, A LOT OF RIDE ALONGS. SO I WANTED TO JUST PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE JUST FROM MY ASSESSMENT. UM, I BELIEVE FEBRUARY 4TH, MAY MY HUNDRED DAY, UM, SO I'LL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE VERY SHORTLY. THE 2024 ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE BOARD THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE JANUARY 14TH MEETING, UM, HAS BEEN FILED WITH THE CITY SECRETARY AND POSTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND ALSO FORWARD IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR REVIEW. THE BOARD HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE OR THE OFFICE. THE GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE REQUESTED A BRIEFING ON THE OFFICE, MISSION, PERFORMANCE METRICS, ANNUAL BUDGET AND POSITIONS, UM, AT ITS FEBRUARY 24TH. THE PRESENTATION IS DUE, UM, THIS FRIDAY FOR REVIEW. UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY YOU WANTED HEADS UP WHEN THE BOARD OR THE OFFICE WAS PRESENTING SO THAT YOU CAN COME AND SUPPORT. SO THIS IS THAT NOTICE. UM, I HAVE SOME EVENTS THAT I'M PRESENTING AT. I'M SCHEDULED TO SERVE ON THE 2020 FIFTH TRAILBLAZER PANEL FOR DALLAS INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. THIRD ANNUAL AFRICAN STUDY STUDENT EXPERIENCE THIS FRIDAY FROM 9:00 AM TO ONE. UM, AND THEN THE SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST DURING UPCOMING EVENTS WILL PROVIDE SOME FURTHER, UM, INFORMATION ON UPCOMING EVENTS. AND I BELIEVE DISTRICT EIGHT JUST TODAY SENT ME AN UPDATE, UM, ON THEIR AFRICAN BLACK HISTORY MONTH, UM, CELEBRATION FOR FEBRUARY 22ND THAT THEY HAVE SENT ME AN INVITATION. UM, SO WE'LL BE MAKING SURE THAT'S ADDED ON OUR CALENDAR FOR US TO ATTEND. BUT THAT IS ALL FOR ME. UH, THANK YOU DIRECTOR. UM, [01:00:01] JUST TWO POINTS. I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT, UM, DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND EFFORT IN MAKING SURE THAT THE OFFICE IS ENGAGED WITH THE SEARCH FOR THE POLICE CHIEF. I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE, UH, SHARED WITH THE BOARD. AND JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE SUPPORT YOU IN MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE, UM, FOR THOSE SEARCHES AND THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON OUR, UH, NEW POLICE CHIEF. UH, SECONDLY, JUST A, UM, CHALLENGE TO THE BOARD, UM, TO TRY AND COME OUT AND SUPPORT THE DIRECTOR ON FEBRUARY 24TH. UH, WHILE SHE'S PRESENTING, I THINK HAVING A PRESENCE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, SPEAKS LOUDLY TO OUR COMMITMENT TO THE, UH, COMMUNITY. UM, SO IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE, PLEASE COME OUT AND SUPPORT THE DIRECTOR ON FEBRUARY 24TH. WHAT TIME? IT'S FEBRUARY 14TH. IT'S 9:00 AM TO 1:00 PM BAD HANDWRITING IS THE BLACK LETTERS AND ARTS. UM, AND THEY HAVE ENHANCED SECURITY. NOW CAN WE SEND OUT ANOTHER REMINDER NOTICE? YES, I CAN SEND A A JUST WHAT WE CAN DO UPCOMING, JUST SEND, UM, UPCOMING EVENTS AND JUST AMMA CAN SEND TO THE BOARD WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE AT IN THE FLYERS AND THE DETAILS SO THE BOARD CAN ADD IT TO THEIR CALENDAR. YES. AND YOU'RE ALSO PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL FEBRUARY 24TH FOR THE GOVERNMENT, UM, PERFORMANCE COMMITTEE. YES. YES. SO THE 24TH? YES. I'LL BE PRESENTING THAT, THAT DATE. EXCUSE ME. COULD YOU CREATE A, UM, A TEAMS GROUP AND THEN YOU CAN JUST ADD IT TO YOUR CALENDAR THAT YOU SHARE THE CALENDAR THAT YOU SHARE WITH US RATHER THAN YOU HAVING TO SEND IT OUT? THEN WE CAN JUST LOOK AT IT. YES. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU. LIKE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT KIND OF CHAT WHERE WE JUST SENT EVERYTHING. OKAY. QUESTION. I HATE TO BE THAT GUY. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THE TEAMS. AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE ONE YOU GUYS CAN'T COMMUNICATE IN IT, RIGHT? LIKE IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A BLOCK TIME BECAUSE, UH, SETTING THAT UP CREATES THE, IT'S, IT'S A QUORUM. IT OPENS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE A MEETING THAT ISN'T PROPERLY NOTICED UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. CAN THE, CAN THE DIRECTOR SEND US OUT A CALENDAR OF THINGS? YEAH, SHE CAN SEND THAT. WHAT I GUESS MY CONCERN WAS THAT IF THERE WAS LIKE A GIANT GROUP CHAT OF THE DIRECTOR PLUS THE 15 OF Y'ALL IS WHAT I SORT OF HEARD. AND THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. NOT WHEN THE DIRECTOR SENDS THE TIME, BUT IF SOMEONE WERE TO RESPOND IN IT. IF, IF ONE OF THE 15 OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE TO RESPOND IN IT, YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE EMAIL. RIGHT? RIGHT. YEAH. BUT I THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED MOST OF THE TIME THE DIRECTOR SENDS EVERYTHING OUT, B, C, C, THAT, UH, ALLEVIATES ANY REPLIES BACK TO HAVE CONVERSATION ON ANY TOPICS, RIGHT. TO AVOID THE REPLY ALL FUNCTION, JUST THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE. NO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU DANIEL FOR THAT CORRECTION. WE APPRECIATE KEEPING US, UH, ON TASK. ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE DIRECTOR IN HER REPORT? IF NOT, I WANT TO, UM, REVERT BACK TO, UM, SORRY, MAJOR GREER AND HIS TEAM. UM, THEY, THEY CAME BACK, I GUESS THEY RECEIVED THE BAT SIGNAL AND AND CAME BACK, UH, TO ANSWER MY DELAYED QUESTION. SO, UM, I'LL RESTATE THE QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS. IT WAS REALLY JUST KIND OF TALKING ABOUT YOUR AREAS, UH, STRATEGIC, UH, FOCUS. UM, AND MY QUESTION WAS REALLY JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE A DASHBOARD OR SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE KEY TARGET THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO REACH. AND THE EXAMPLE I GAVE FOR TRAINING, UH, FOR WHATEVER TRAINING THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THAT STRATEGIC REVIEW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TARGETING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OFFICERS RECEIVE THIS OR 92% OR WHATEVER. SO WE ARE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE TRENDING, ARE YOU TRENDING UP TOWARDS IT? ARE YOU TRENDING, TRENDING DOWN, IS IT FLAT, ET CETERA. IS THERE SOME TYPE OF DASHBOARD OR METRICS THAT WILL BE SHARED SO WE CAN SEE HOW YOU GUYS ARE PERFORMING AGAINST YOUR, UH, STRATEGIC AREAS. CERTAINLY. UM, AND SO MADDIE IS, UH, THE PERSON THAT OVERSEES ALL OF OUR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS AND THE, UH, METRICS THAT WE TRACK. SO I'LL KICK IT TO HER. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THE FOUR AREAS THAT WERE DISCUSSED, UM, PRIOR TO EACH UM, REVIEW, WE HAVE A TEAM MEETING AND WE PUT TOGETHER A WORK PLAN. AND DURING THAT TIME WE WORK WITH, UM, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS INCLUDING DR. DALE CARMEN, WHO IS JUST, UM, ON VIA ZOOM. AND HE HELPS US DEVELOP A METHODOLOGICAL APPROACH TO ANALYZE EACH SUBJECT. AND SO WE HAVEN'T YET DONE THAT FOR THOSE FOUR SUBJECTS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T YET BEGUN THOSE REVIEWS. WE'RE WRAPPING UP A FEW OTHERS FIRST. UM, BUT WE WILL [01:05:01] FOLLOW THAT PROCESS. AND THEN FROM THERE OUR TEAM CONDUCTS THE REVIEW AND THEN SUMMARIZES OUR ANALYSIS. UM, WHICH AN EXAMPLE OF THAT YOU ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW WITH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION REPORT. AND THAT ANALYSIS, UM, BREAKS DOWN OUR FINDINGS AND THEN ANY KEY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, ONCE WE HAVE A FINALIZED REPORT, IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE. HE REVIEWS THE REPORT AND THEN WE MEET WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND THE REVIEW SUBJECT, UM, MOST RECENTLY, UH, MAJOR GREER AND THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION. AND WE REVIEW LINE BY LINE EACH RECOMMENDATION FOR IMPROVEMENT INCLUDED IN THE REPORT. AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE, WE SYSTEMATICALLY TRACK THE SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION OF EACH RECOMMENDATION FOR IMPROVEMENT. AND SO OUR TEAM GUIDES THAT IMPLEMENTATION AND PARTNERS WITH THE REVIEW SUBJECT TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, OUR UNIT, UM, HAS FIVE CORE FUNCTIONS. AND SO WE HAVE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS AS IT RELATES TO EACH OF THOSE. AND SO WE TRACK, UM, THE NUMBER OF REVIEWS THAT ARE CONDUCTED, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT IS HOSTED, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF FINDINGS. AND SO ALWAYS HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION. UM, AS IT RELATES TO THAT, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH. BUT WE WERE ESTABLISHED IN LATE 2023. JUST HAVE, UM, BEEN OPEN A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW AND HAVE REALLY BUILT THIS FROM THE GROUND UP AND HAVE CREATED PROCESSES FROM SCRATCH AND ARE FINE TUNING THEM AS WE GO, AS WE, UM, STUDY WHAT OTHER OFFICES OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE DOING. AND THEN READ PATTERN AND PRACTICE, UM, PATTERN OR PRACTICE INVESTIGATIONS OR CONSENT DECREES, GUIDANCE FROM THE DOJ TO CONSTANTLY FINE TUNE OUR REPORTS AND OUR METHODOLOGY AND WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING TO ENSURE THAT IT REMAINS AS EFFECTIVE, UM, AS POSSIBLE AND USEFUL FOR NOT ONLY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT BENEFICIAL TO THE DALLAS COMMUNITY, UM, AND, AND CITY MANAGEMENT AS WELL. NO, I THINK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING BACK. UM, ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD? UH, I HAVE ONE CHAIR RECOGNIZES, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, HOW DID YOU GUYS COME UP WITH THE FOUR FOCUSED AREAS? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM, THE FOUR FOCUS AREAS WERE, UM, ADVISED, UH, TO US WITH, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH DR. DEL CARMEN. SO DR. DEL CARMEN IS A, UH, UH, RENOWNED POLICING EXPERT WITH, UM, DIRECT, UM, INVOLVEMENT AND OVERSIGHT OF SEVERAL CONSENT DECREES, FEDERAL CONSENT DECREES. AND HE ACTUALLY IS THE ONLY, UM, SPECIAL MASTER, UH, FOR A FEDERAL CONSENT DECREE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND SO WHEN, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO POLICING, UH, THOSE FOUR AREAS WERE DEEMED TO BE, UH, THE BEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT, UH, LOOKING AT A, UH, I'M SORRY, BEST, UH, USE OF OUR TIME, UH, TO FOCUS ON BOARD MEMBER MAPLES. UM, DID I HEAR CORRECTLY, YOU SAID THIS PLAN WAS DEVISED IN 23, THE UNIT WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED IN DECEMBER OF 2023, SO DECEMBER OF 23. SO YOU HAVE ABOUT A YEAR'S FULL OF DATA. MM-HMM . IS THERE SOMETHING YOU COULD SHARE WITH US IN, IN ANY OF THOSE REPORTS OR THE WHOLE REPORT? UH, SO WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WITH THE REPORTS I, THAT, THAT IS SHARED WITH US, UM, I'D LIKE TO, TO DO SOME COMPARISON AS TO WHAT I SEE VERSUS WHAT WE GET. SURE. ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, UM, REPORT SUMMARIZING OUR LIMITED SCOPE REVIEW OF THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION. OKAY. THAT IS THE FIRST REPORT. IT ACTUALLY HASN'T EVEN YET BEEN RELEASED PUBLICLY, BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL AN ADVANCED COPY OF THAT. OKAY. AND SO, COME THIS FRIDAY, IT WILL BE SHARED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND PUBLISHED ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING UNIT'S WEBSITE, BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU BOARD ALSO WOULD LOVE YOUR THOUGHTS MAPLES. THE REASON SINCE IT WAS, IT HADN'T GONE PUBLIC, THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT IN OUR BRIEFING BOOK, BUT IT WAS SENT VIA EMAIL. YEAH, I GOT IT ON MY EMAIL. OKAY. I I JUST, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT, IT WOULD BE ONE AND THE SAME, SO YES, THE SAME, THE SAME REPORT. YEP. OKAY. THAT, THAT'LL BE FINE. AND IT'S, IT, IT'S FOR A YEAR OR MONTH OR HOW LONG? UM, SO THE REPORT IS JUST A SUMMARY OF OUR ENTIRE ANALYSIS OF THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, BUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE FOCUSED ON THE REPORT IS LENGTH OF PROCESSING TIMES FOR A CONTROL NUMBER INVESTIGATION, AND THEN THE, THEN THE CORRESPONDING REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION PROCESS, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY ISSUING DISCIPLINE. AND SO WE SIMPLY LOOK AT, AT THE SYSTEMS LEVEL, AT THE DEPARTMENT, NEVER ANY INDIVIDUAL ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND SO IT WAS REALLY JUST A STRICT REVIEW OF, UM, HOW LONG IS IT TAKING TO COMPLETE A CONTROL NUMBER INVESTIGATION, AND THEN [01:10:01] HOW LONG IS THE SUB SUBSEQUENT REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION PROCESS? AND THEN WHERE DO WE SEE EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS? WHERE CAN WE BETTER ALIGN WITH ANY APPLICABLE STANDARDS OR GUIDANCE THAT THE DOJ HAS PROVIDED AS IT RELATES TO OFFICER MISCONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS IN THE FORM OF PATTERN OR PRACTICE INVESTIGATIONS OR CONSENT DECREE PARAGRAPHS. I SEE THAT THE DR. DE CARMEN WAS ABLE TO, UM, COME BACK. UM, THANK YOU, DOCTOR. UM, THE, UH, THE QUESTION WAS REGARDING THE DATA, UM, AND THEN ALSO THEY, UH, WERE ASKING ABOUT HOW WE CAME TO THE CON TO THE, UH, AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON. AND SO I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK ON, UM, SOME OF YOUR QUALIFICATIONS, BUT I THINK THAT THE, IT MAY BE BEST TO HEAR FROM YOU REGARDING THE DATA AND THOSE AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. ALRIGHT. UH, YES, LIEUTENANT, AND, AND GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UM, I, UM, THE AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT ARE AREAS THAT ARE WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE CRITICAL IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT INDUSTRY AS IT RELATES TO POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS. UM, IN THE COURSE OF THE PAST 22 YEARS OF PERCENT DECREE AND POLICE REFORM CASES, THOSE AREAS HAVE ALWAYS STOOD OUT AS BEING COMMON ACROSS THE UNITED STATES IN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS LIKE SEATTLE, NEW ORLEANS, PUERTO RICO, UH, BALTIMORE, AND NOW CHICAGO, WHERE ALL OF THESE CITIES HAVE BEEN, UH, AFFECTED BY FEDERAL CONSENT DECREES. AND THESE AREAS STAND OUT AS THE COMMON THREATS, UH, THAT POLICE DEPARTMENTS TYPICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON AND, AND AREAS OF IMPORTANCE AS IT RELATES TO THAT. I WANT, I WANT EVERYONE TO ALSO KEEP IN MIND, I'VE BEEN PRIVY TO THE CONVERSATION THIS EVENING AND, AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER AREAS AND, AND THE VOLUME OF WORK. UH, IT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY INTENSE FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT WE HAVE GONE, GONE THROUGH, THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED AND THE AMOUNT OF DATA THAT WE HAVE ANALYZED. AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GONNA START SEEING IN THE COMING YEAR IS THE PRODUCT OF ALL THAT WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST YEAR IN THE FORM OF REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE UNIT. SO IN THE, IN THE COURSE OF 27 YEARS DOING CIVIL RIGHTS WORK IN THE AREA OF POLICING, I TELL YOU, I AM INCREDIBLY PROUD TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CPU AND THE GREAT WORK THAT THE LIEUTENANT, UH, AND, AND MADDIE ARE BOTH DOING, UH, FOR THIS UNIT. THANK YOU, DR. DEL CARMEN. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DR. DEL CARMEN? IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT IF OTHER BIG CITIES GET SUCCESSFULLY SUED ABOUT THINGS PRETTY REGULARLY, THAT THOSE WILL BECOME PART OF OUR FOCUSES? YOU KNOW, I, SORRY, WAS THAT QUESTION DIRECTED AT ME? OR? I THINK LI KIND OF SEE IT VERY WELL FROM HERE. I, I SUPPOSE AT THE OFFICE OF, OF CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING DOC, I THINK YOU'D BE BEST TO ANSWER THAT. WELL, WELL, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE CONSTANTLY LOOK AT THE LAWSUITS THAT ARE FILED AGAINST MAJOR CITIES, UM, BECAUSE THEY OFTEN ORIENT US AS TO THE GAP OF THE LOOPHOLES THAT ARE FOUND WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT WE DO. BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THEY ARE NO GREATER LAWSUITS AGAINST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAN THESE CONSENT DECREES. RIGHT? SO, UH, THESE AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE AREAS THAT ARE PREVALENT AMONG CONSENT DECREES, BUT ALSO AMONG SOME OF THE CIVIL LI LIABILITY AND THE LAWSUITS THAT ARE FILED AGAINST, UH, SMALL, BIG AND MEDIUM SIZED CITIES. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? DR. DEL CARMEN, THANK YOU ONLINE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING BACK. I APPRECIATE IT. NO PROBLEM. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE IN THE KIND OF FRAMING STAGES OF YOUR OFFICE AND GETTING READY TO JUMP INTO THE DATA. SO WE'LL LOVE FOR YOU TO CONTINUE SHARING WITH US AND WE'LL BE TRACKING ALONG. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. OKAY. MOVING ON ON OUR AGENDA. WE WILL, UM, NEXT IS SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR REPORT. WE HAVE INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF, UH, WITH OUR CRITICAL INCIDENT BRIEFINGS KICKOFF. GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS. UH, FIRST IS THE, UH, CRITICAL INCIDENT NUMBER TWO BRIEFING. THE SECOND CRITICAL INCIDENT OF THE YEAR FOR US ON JANUARY 16TH, 2025. DALLAS POLICE WERE ALERTED BY A DRUG ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AGENT THAT GABRIEL SERNA WAS AT A GAS STATION IN DALLAS. SERNA WAS WANTED ON CAPITAL MURDER CHARGE RELATED TO A SHOOTING THAT OCCURRED ON DECEMBER 30TH, WHICH RESULTED IN THE DEATH OF A 36-YEAR-OLD MAN. AFTER LEAVING THE GAS STATION, CERNER ENDED SOUTHBOUND I 35 E AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT HE WAS NOT DRIVING. AT THAT TIME, [01:15:01] A MARKED POLICE PATROL UNIT CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STOP ON THE VEHICLE CARRYING CERNA. THE VEHICLE INITIALLY PULLED OVER, BUT SERNA THEN PUSHED THE FEMALE DRIVER OUT OF THE CAR AND ACCELERATED AWAY AT A HIGH SPEED. APPROXIMATELY THREE MILES LATER AT 10:25 AM IN ELLIS COUNTY, SERNA CRASHED INTO ANOTHER VEHICLE ON I 35 E EXITING HIS VEHICLE WITH A HANDGUN. SERNA WAS SHOT BY DALLAS POLICE OFFICER. HE WAS THEN TAKEN INTO CUSTODY AND NOW FACES ADDITIONAL CHARGES. THE 73-YEAR-OLD MALE DRIVER OF THE OTHER VEHICLE WAS KILLED IN THE CRASH, AND HIS PASSENGER SUSTAINED SERIOUS INJURIES. SINCE THE SHOOTING AND CRASH OCCURRED IN ELLIS COUNTY, THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE RED OAKS POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE INVESTIGATING THIS INCIDENT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? CAN YOU DESCRIBE, UM, HOW THE OFFICE WAS BRIEFED ABOUT THIS? UH, THE OFFICE RESPONDED TO THE SCENE, BUT THERE WAS NO BRIEFING BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT 'CAUSE THEY WERE NOT INVESTIGATING IT. OH, BECAUSE IT OCCURRED IN ELLIS COUNTY? YES. COOL. THANK YOU. AND NEXT UP I HAVE THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON THE WILLIAM BLACK COMPLAINT. ON DECEMBER 8TH, 2022, WILLIAM BLACK SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT, UM, TO THE DENVER POLICE OR TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, STATING THAT ON NOVEMBER 10TH, 2022, HE WAS STOPPED IN HIS VEHICLE AND ARRESTED BLACK. ALLEGED THAT OFFICER JOHNSON TOOK A NECKLACE OFF OF HIM DURING THE ARREST AND HE HAS NOT SEEN THE NECKLACE SINCE BLACK ESTIMATED THE WORTH OF THE NECKLACE WAS $13,000. BLACK FEELS HE WAS TARGETED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS NECKLACE. IN REVIEW OF THE POLICE REPORT, UH, IT BASICALLY STATED THAT, UH, THE VEHICLE THAT DR. BLACK WAS DRIVING WAS PULLED OVER FOR A TRAFFIC VIOLATION AND HE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY ARRESTED FOR POSSESSION OF NARCOTICS AND OUTSTANDING WARRANTS. UM, AND THAT WAS OFFICER JOHNSON AND OFFICER FARMER WHO HAD STOPPED THE VEHICLE. UH, AND FOR THE TRANSPORT TO THE JAIL, OFFICER JIGGLE AND OFFICER SWANKE RESPONDED TO THE SCENE AND TRANSPORTED BLACK TO THE JAIL. THERE'S NO MENTION OF THE NECKLACE IN THE POLICE REPORT. UM, REVIEW OF THE BODY-WORN CAMERA, SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, UM, THE DASH CAM ON THE, ON THE, UH, POLICE VEHICLE SHOWS OFFICER JOHNSON BEGINS TO REMOVE PROPERTY FROM BLACK'S POCKETS AND PLACING ON THE HOOD OF THE VEHICLE OF THE, UH, PATROL VEHICLE. THEN OFFICER JOHNSON REMOVES THE NECKLACE FROM BLACK'S NECK. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE VIDEO THAT BLACK IS WEARING THREE NECKLACES AT THE TIME. UM, OFFICER JOHNSON REMOVES ONE OF THOSE NECKLACES, WHICH COULD BE DESCRIBED AS A CUBAN NECKLACE AND PLACES IT ON THE HOOD OF THE, UH, PATROL VEHICLE. AND THEN OFFICER JOHNSON TAKES A CLEAR PLASTIC BAG, WHICH IS A COMMON PROPERTY BAG THAT THE PATROL OFFICERS USE TO GATHER UP THE PROPERTY BEFORE TAKING SOMEONE TO JAIL AND PLACES ALL THAT PROPERTY HE'S TAKEN OFF OF, OFF OF MR. WILLIAM BLACK AND PLACES IT IN THAT BAG. UM, THAT BAG THEN STAYS ON THE HOOD OF THE PATROL VEHICLE UNTIL THE TRANSPORTING OFFICERS ARRIVE. AND THEN OFFICER JIGGLE TAKES THAT PROPERTY BAG FROM THE HOOD OF THE PATROL VEHICLE, KIND OF ROLLS THE TOP OF IT AND PLACES IT IN THE TRUNK OF HIS PATROL VEHICLE. AND THEN, UM, TRANSPORTS MR. BLACK TO THE, THE JAIL. UM, BUT WHEN REVIEWING, UM, OFFICER JOHNSON'S BODY-WORN CAMERA, SO WE GET THE UP CLOSE VIEW OF, OF HIM TAKING THE NECKLACE OFF. THERE'S AN INTERACTION BETWEEN HIM AND, AND BLACK. AND OFFICER JOHNSON STATES, YOUR NECKLACES COME OFF EASY. I'M JUST GONNA TAKE THEM OFF NOW AND PUT THEM IN YOUR PROPERTY BAG. BLACK REPLIES, I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT IT. LOOK AT IT, THEY ARE ALREADY RUSTING. THEY'RE NOT EVEN REAL MAN. OFFICER JOHNSON STATES. I KNOW. I JUST RATHER HAVE THEM IN THERE THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT THAT. THEN IT STOPS BLACK STATES. I DON'T CARE, BRO, WHAT THEY DO WITH IT, MAN. AND THEN, UH, ABOUT A MINUTE LATER, OFFICER JOHNSON JUST STATES, I'LL LET THEM TAKE THOSE OFF WHEN YOU GET UP THERE. 'CAUSE OFFICER JOHNSON HAD REMOVED THE CUBAN NECKLACE, PLACED IT DOWN. UM, BUT DUE TO THE SIZE DIFFERENCE IT APPEARS, UH, THE, UM, OFFICER JOHNSON COMPARED TO MR. BLACK, WHO'S VERY TALL, HE HAD DIFFICULTY TAKING THAT FIRST NECKLACE OFF. SO HE CHOSE NOT TO TAKE OFF THE OTHER TWO. AND SO HE LEAVES THEM ON THERE, AND THAT'S WHAT HE IS REFERRING TO WHEN HE SAYS, I'LL LET THEM TAKE THOSE OFF. WHEN YOU GET UP THERE THAT HE'S REFERRING, WHEN HE GETS TO THE JAIL, HE'LL LET THEM TAKE THOSE OFF. SO THOSE NECKLACES STAY ON HIM. UM, AND THEN [01:20:01] HE'S TRANSPORTED TO THE JAIL. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY VIDEO OF, OF THEM IN THE JAIL BECAUSE, UH, DALLAS POLICE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THEIR BODY CAM INSIDE THE JAIL. AND NEXT UP I HAVE THE DALLAS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. INMATE PROPERTY FORMS, WHEN YOU GET BOOKED IN, THEY, THEY INVENTORY YOUR PROPERTY. SO THE FIRST FORM THAT IS DATED NOVEMBER 10TH, 2022 AT 3:28 AM IS A PRE-PRINTED FORM WHERE YOU QUICKLY CIRCLE ITEMS THAT THE INMATES COME IN, IN WITH AND THEN ALSO HAS A SPACE TO WRITE WHAT THEY HAVE. AND IN THAT FORM, THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS THAT ARE CIRCLED. YOU KNOW, HE CAME IN WITH, AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WAS HANDWRITTEN IN SAYS YELLOW NECKLACE, AND THAT'S ALL IT SAYS. IT DOESN'T SPECIFY WHAT TYPE OF NECKLACE OR HOW MANY OR ANYTHING ELSE. IT JUST SAYS YELLOW NECKLACE. AND THEN A SECOND PROPERTY FORM IS CREATED, UM, THAT SAME DAY, BUT AT 7:06 PM SO ALMOST 15 HOURS LATER. AND THAT, UM, PROPERTY FORM WAS A COMPUTER GENERATED ONE. AND SO I REACHED OUT TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND ASKED THEM ABOUT THAT. AND THEY SAY THE FIRST ONE THAT IS HANDWRITTEN IS WHEN AN INMATE FIRST COMES IN AND IS BOOKED, THAT IS COMPLETED, FILLED OUT. UM, AND THAT'S WHEN THE, THE, UM, ARRESTEE SIGNS AND THAT HANDWRITTEN ONE HERE IS THE ONE THAT MR. WILLIAM BLACK DID SIGN THAT NIGHT. THE SECOND ONE IS AFTER, UM, SEVERAL HOURS THAT ARE MOVED UPSTAIRS IN THE JAIL SYSTEM, ANOTHER EMPLOYEE FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WILL FILL OUT, UM, THE COMPUTER GENERATED ONE. THEY'LL LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND THEY'LL FILL THAT OUT. AND THAT FORM IS NOT SIGNED BY THE ARRESTEE AS IN, AS IN THIS CASE. AND THAT SECOND ONE THAT WAS FILLED OUT, OR THAT WAS ENTERED INTO THE COMPUTER INDICATES THAT THERE WERE TWO NECKLACES, ONE WITH A CROSS AND ONE WITH A STONE. IT DOES NOT INDICATE ANYTHING ABOUT THE CUBAN NECKLACE AT ALL. UM, IT JUST DESCRIBES IT LIKE THAT ONE WITH A CROSS, ONE WITH A STONE, WHICH DOES MATCH UP WITH WHAT MR. BLACK WAS WEARING THAT EVENING ON THE BODY-WORN CAMERA. UM, SORRY, WAIT A MINUTE. YOU SAID THAT IT DOES MATCH UP WITH WHAT HE WAS WEARING? YES. WHEN YOU SAY THE CUBAN NECKLACE, IS THAT THE ONE WITH THE CROSS OR THE ONE WITH THE STONE? A CUBAN NECKLACE IS A THICK CHAIN NECKLACE, UHHUH . AND THE ONE HE HAD DID NOT HAVE ANY, UH, STONE ORNAMENTS ON IT OR ANYTHING. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT WOULD, WAS TAKEN OFF INITIALLY AT THE SCENE? YES. OKAY. SORRY. KEEP GOING. OKAY. UM, SO NEXT WE HAVE IS THE PUBLIC INTEGRITY, UM, INVESTIGATION. SO WHEN MR. BLACK, UM, UH, GOT OUTTA JAIL AND SAW THAT HIS CUBAN NECKLACE WAS NOT THERE, HE SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO THE, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY INITIALLY SENT IT TO THE PUBLIC INTEGRITY UNIT TO INVESTIGATE FOR A POSSIBLE CRIME, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE THEFT. SO IT WENT TO THAT UNIT FIRST. UH, THEY INVESTIGATED IT AND SOME OF THEIR HIGHLIGHTS ARE THAT THEY ATTEMPTED TO OBTAIN THE VIDEO AT THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL. UM, HOWEVER, THEY HAVE A 90 DAY RETENTION PERIOD AT THE JAIL, AND THAT PERIOD HAD EXPIRED. SO THERE'S NO VIDEO OF, OF THE INTERACTIONS INSIDE THE JAIL. AND A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL SEE VIDEO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY SHOW THE PROPERTY, UH, BEING SUBMITTED WHEN THE PERSON'S ARRESTED. DO WE KNOW WHY THERE WAS NO LEGAL HOLD IN PLACE? NO, WE DO NOT KNOW WHY. I DUNNO, WHY IS, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN SPEAK TO? UH, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? KNOW WHAT TYPE OF HOLD? SO IT SEEMS THAT THE, SO IT'S, THE JAIL ITSELF HAS A 90 DAY RETENTION POLICY. YES. AND THEN, SO THIS IS A MONTH OUT PUBLIC INTEGRITY, INTEGRITY UNIT WAS BEGINNING THEIR INVESTIGATION ONE MONTH OUT, NO LEGAL HOLD IS SENT, AND THEN BY THE TIME THEY CIRCLE BACK TO THE VIDEO, IT'S GONE BY THEN. SO IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SLIPPED THROUGH THE CRACKS? IS THERE PROTOCOL IN PLACE TO SEND OUT A LEGAL HOLD IMMEDIATELY? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT SURE WHY PUBLIC INTEGRITY DIDN'T PLACE A HOLD ON THAT VIDEO. I'M, I IS IS THERE A POLICY IN PLACE TO SEND OUT LEGAL HOLDS IMMEDIATELY AT THE BEGINNING OF INVESTIGATIONS LIKE THAT? YEAH, NORMALLY IF WE KNOW THAT, IF WE KNOW THAT THAT VIDEO MAY EXIST AND IT MAY COME INTO PLAY, CERTAINLY THE DETECTIVE WOULD'VE, UH, MADE EFFORTS TO, TO HOLD THAT VIDEO. SORRY, WHEN YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS A PUBLIC INTEGRITY INVESTIGATION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DALLAS COUNTY DA'S OFFICE PUBLIC INTEGRITY DEPARTMENT? NO. OR DPD? YES. OKAY, GOT IT. UM, SO THE PUBLIC INTEGRITY UNIT FROM DALLAS POLICE CONCLUDED, [01:25:01] UM, THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PROBABLE CAUSE TO SHOW THAT OFFICERS FARMER JOHNSON JIGGLE OR SWANKA HAD COMMITTED THEFT. AND SO THAT CONCLUSION, THEY THEN SENT THE CASE BACK TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS TO CONDUCT AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION. UM, SO INTERNAL AFFAIRS CONDUCTED THEIR INVESTIGATION AND THEY MADE IT UNFOUNDED FOR OFFICERS JOHNSON AND OFFICERS FARMER, WHO WERE THE INITIAL OFFICERS ON THE SCENE AND MADE THE ARREST. AND THEY INITIALLY FOUND IT SUSTAINED FOR OFFICERS JIGGLE AND OFFICERS OSI WONKA, WHO WERE THE TWO OFFICERS WHO TRANSPORTED BLACK TO THE JAIL. UM, THAT REPORT WENT THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY, UM, CHANGED IT FROM SUSTAINED FOR THOSE TWO OFFICERS TO NOT SUSTAINED. IT WAS LETTER DATED JANUARY 31ST, 2024. AND IT WAS BY THEN ASSISTANT CHIEF MICHAEL IGO, WHO RECLASSIFIED THE FINDINGS AS NOT SUSTAINED. SO THE OFFICIAL FINDINGS FROM THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION ENDED UP BEING NOT SUSTAINED ON THOSE OFFICERS. I HAVE A QUESTION. WAS THERE A REASON WHY IT WAS SUSTAINED? CAN YOU DISCUSS WHY? UM, I CAN ONLY DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, IN THE ROUTINGS FOR THE CHANGING OF IT FROM SUSTAINED TO NOT SUSTAINED. UM, THEY HAD COMMENTED THAT IT WAS DUE TO NOT HAVING THE VIDEO FROM THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL AND ALSO BECAUSE, UM, OTHER PEOPLE HAD ACCESS TO THAT PROPERTY, MEANING THE DALLAS COUNTY EMPLOYEES, ALONG WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES. WHEN THE, WHEN THE CUBAN CHAIN IS PUT INTO THE BAG, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE SEALED INTO THE BAG WITH IT? YES. YEAH, HE HAS HIS WALLET AND PHONE. THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WERE PUT IN THE BAG AND THOSE THINGS END UP AT THE JAIL. YES. BUT THE CUBAN, UM, NECKLACE DOES NOT. YEAH, WE DON'T, IT APPEARS, YEAH. YES. IT ENDS UP DISAPPEARING AT SOME POINT. EXCUSE ME, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY. WHEN, UM, THE SECOND TEAM TOOK THE PROPERTY FROM THE HOOD AND PLACED IT IN THEIR VEHICLE, WE DON'T HAVE VIDEO OF THE PROPERTY ARRIVING AT THE, IS THAT, IS THAT AT THE PROPERTY OFFICE OR AT THE JAIL? THE VIDEO WE HAVE, IT SHOWS THE PROPERTY BEING PLACED IN THE TRUNK OF THAT PATROL CAR. RIGHT. THEN YOU HAVE VIDEO OF THE BACK SEAT OF THAT PATROL CAR, WHICH DOES SHOW THROUGH THE BACK WINDOW, THE TRUNK. SO YOU CAN SEE AS HE'S BEING TRANSPORTED, THE TRUNK IS CLOSED AND NO ONE ENTERS THAT TRUNK UNTIL THEY ARRIVE AT THE JAIL. AND THEN THE TWO OFFICERS GET OUT AND THEY ENTER THE TRUNK AND THEY RETRIEVE THE BAG. BUT YOU CAN'T SEE, THERE'S NO DETAIL AT THAT POINT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IN THE BAG. THANK YOU. MR. HUFF. UH, IS IT CORRECT THAT WE KNOW NOT BY BODY WORN CAMERA, BUT BY THE INVENTORY THAT THE NECKLACE ACTUALLY MADE IT TO THE JAIL? THAT'S UNKNOWN BECAUSE THAT INITIAL PROPERTY SHEET AT THE JAIL THAT WAS HANDWRITTEN IN THAT MR. WILLIAM BLACK SIGNED JUST SAID YELLOW NECKLACE. IT, DOES THAT DESCRIBE THE NECKLACE IN QUESTION? YES, IT COULD, THAT COULD DESCRIBE THE CUBAN NAME. UM, THE CUBAN CHAIN NECKLACE. SO IF WE GO OFF OF THAT PROPERTY LIST AND ASSUME IT IS THE NECKLACE IN QUESTION, WE KNOW THAT IT MADE IT TO THE JAIL, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT AFTERWARDS. RIGHT. WELL, HE WAS WEARING THREE NECKLACES, SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE PERSON AT THE, AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE MEANT BY YELLOW NECKLACE. I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IF WE ASSUME THAT WAS THE NECKLACE IN QUESTION THEN THAT THE ASSUMPTION WOULD BE IT MADE IT TO THE JAIL. BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO IT AFTER THAT NO ONE KNOWS. CORRECT. AND IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PUBLIC INTEGRITY UNIT EVENTUALLY SAID, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING HERE BECAUSE TOO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAD IT OR HAD ACCESS TO IT AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT? CORRECT. AND SOME OF 'EM WERE SHERIFF'S OFFICERS, SOME OF 'EM POLICE OFFICERS AND MAYBE OTHER PEOPLE? CORRECT. AND IS THAT, TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING, THE SAME REASONING THAT THE SUSTAINED PART BECAME NOT SUSTAINED? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. WAS A REFERRAL MADE FROM THE DPD TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS A RESULT OF THE FACT THAT IT APPEARED, IF WE MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE YELLOW IS THE ONE THAT HAD DISAPPEARED AT THE SHERIFF'S DIRECTION OR IN THE [01:30:01] SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WAS THERE ANY KIND OF A REFERRAL MADE TO THEM TO LOOK INTO IT NOW LOOKING AT THE INVESTIGATION, IT WAS NO REFERRAL OVER TO THE, UH, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. IS INVESTIGATOR HUFF, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M TRACKING THIS CLEARLY. SO YOU SAW ON THE BODY-WORN CAMERA AT THE POINT OF ARREST THREE CHAINS? YES. OKAY. AND YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE CUBAN LINK, WHICH YOU'RE SAYING IS THE, IS ALSO OF YELLOW COLOR? YES. WHAT ABOUT THE TWO OTHER CHAINS? THEY COULD BE CONSIDERED YELLOW. YELLOW AS WELL. SO YES, POTENTIALLY THREE YELLOW CHAINS WAS WORN BY MR. BLACK. YES. UM, WE SEE ONE ON THE CAR, THE CUBAN LINK. WE SEE IT SOMEWHAT IN A BAG TRANSPORT TO THE JAIL. I GUESS WHERE I'M LOSING THE TRACKING IS, OKAY, WE HAVE THE PRE-PRINTED FORM AND WE HAVE THE HANDWRITTEN FORM THAT IDENTIFIES ONE YELLOW NECKLACE, BUT WE KNOW HE HAS THREE. YES. UM, THEN THERE'S A GAP FROM THAT FORM TO THE COMPUTER GENERATED FORM, WHICH HAS NOW IDENTIFIED TWO NECKLACES WITH SOME TYPE OF CHARM MEDALLION ON THEM. YES. SO MY LINEAR THOUGHT IS WE HAVE LOOKED AT AT LEAST TWO CHAINS. WE STARTED OFF WITH ONE ON THE PRE-PRINTED FORM THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS JUST YELLOW NECKLACE, BUT SOMEWHERE IN THE INVENTORYING BY SOME EMPLOYEE INTO THE DATABASE. WE'RE UP TO TWO NOW. YES. BUT OUR BODY-WORN CAMERA HAD THREE. YES. SO FROM THREE TO TWO, YOU KNOW, BASIC MATH WE'RE MISSING A CHAIN. YES. OKAY. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO TOOK IT. CORRECT. THANK YOU. MR. HUFF. UM, WHAT, UM, WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO YOU OR US FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION TO COME UP WITH AN ANSWER THAT PUBLIC INTEGRITY AND INTERNAL AFFAIRS WAS UNABLE TO DO? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO OR YOU THINK YOU COULD DO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION? NO, I DON'T THINK THERE IS AT THIS TIME WITH, UM, THE TIME THAT HAS PASSED, IT'S BEEN OVER TWO YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, THE CRUCIAL PIECE OF EVIDENCE IS THE VIDEO FROM THE JAIL THAT WAS RIGHT OR WRONG. IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT AVAILABLE. CORRECT. SO YOU DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU COULD ADD TO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE? CORRECT. OKAY. THANKS. MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. I FREEMAN BASED ON THAT, I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SOLVE THE MYSTERY OF WHERE'S THE NECKLACE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY AMOUNT OF INVESTIGATION THAT'S GONNA FIND THAT. BUT WHAT I THINK WOULD BE USEFUL WOULD BE TO, UM, ASSIGN SOME BLAME HERE. UM, MR. HUFF, THE DPD MADE PULLED THEM OVER AND MADE THE ARREST, CORRECT? CORRECT. DPD REMOVE THE NECKLACE, THE CUBAN NECKLACE? YES. AND DID MR. GET THE NECKLACE BACK? NO. OKAY. TO ME, DPD PULLED HIM OVER, THEY TOOK HIS NECKLACE OFF AFTER HE WAS RELEASED, HE DIDN'T GET HIS NECKLACE BACK. SO TO ME THAT LOOKS LIKE DPD IS RESPONSIBLE REGARDLESS OF WHO HAD, WHERE, WHAT THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY WAS, WHO HAD POSSESSION AT WHAT TIME. WE'RE NEVER GONNA FIGURE THAT OUT IN MY MIND. ALL I KNOW IS THAT DPD MADE THE ARREST, D-P-D-D-P-D TOOK, HAD POSITIVE CONTROL OF THE NECKLACE, TOOK IT OFF OF HIM, AND HE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T GET IT BACK TO ME. THAT, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON DPD. SO IF WE WANT TO CONFIRM THAT THROUGH AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. IS THAT THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR REPORT FOR THIS CASE? WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO FURTHER ADD JUST THE, THE POLICY IF I MAY, THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, UM, THAT WOULD APPLY IN THIS SITUATION. IT'S A, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT CODE OF CONDUCT SECTION 6.8 SAYS EMPLOYEES SHALL TAKE ALL REASONABLE STEPS NECESSARY TO PREVENT LOSS OR DAMAGE TO PROPERTY OR EQUIPMENT BELONGING TO A PERSON IN CUSTODY OR, WHICH HAS COME INTO POSSESSION OF SAID EMPLOYEE BY REASON OF THEIR OFFICE. JUST, JUST TO FOLLOW UP, BECAUSE I, I DISAGREE WITH MY LEARNED COLLEAGUE HERE IN THE SENSE OF IT, IT, IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, AND AGAIN, UH, I AGREE WE'RE NOT GONNA FIND IT THE NECKLACE AT THIS POINT. THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN DONE, IT SOUNDS LIKE. SO THE QUESTION BECOMES, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. FRIEDMAN IS SAYING, BUT IT ALSO APPEARS THAT IF, IF THE, UH, DOCUMENTS ARE ASSUMED TO BE WHAT THEY ARE, THE POLICE OFFICERS DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, THEY TRANSPORTED HIM, TURNED THE NECKLACE OVER, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT AT THAT POINT. IS THAT FAIR? CORRECT. SO I I THINK TO ASSIGN BLAME HERE WOULD, WOULD HAVE TO BE THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE NECKLACE [01:35:01] BEFORE IT GOT TURNED OVER AND I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION. IS THAT ALSO FAIR TO SAY? CORRECT, YES. MR. CHAIR. CAN, CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT? CAN, CAN WE DETERMINE WHO THE LAST PERSON, WHO WAS THE LAST PERSON TO HAVE POSITIVE CONTROL OF THE NECKLACE? I WOULD SAY BE OFFICER JIGGLE. HE'S ONE WHO D FROM DPD, HE HAD THE BAG OF YES. OF DALLAS POLICE AND PLACED IT IN THE TRUNK. AND SO WE CAN SEE FROM THE DASH CAM AND BODY-WORN CAMERA THAT THE NECKLACE WENT IN THAT BAG AND THEN OFFICER PUT THAT BAG IN HIS TRUNK. DISAGREE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR INVESTIGATOR? I HAVE ONE AND I KNOW THAT DR. GO AHEAD. GILBERT SMITH DOES, UM, IS HE WEARING A NECKLACE IN HIS BOOKING PHOTO? NO, I DID NOT SEE HIS BOOKING PHOTO. OKAY. SO IT SEEMS, I I KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW THE INVESTIGATION, OR RATHER HOW A COMPLAINT CAN'T BE SUSTAINED AGAINST ANY 1D PD OFFICER IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NECKLACE OR, OR WHERE IT FELL OUT OF THE WORLD. RIGHT? CORRECT. HOWEVER, I'M NO FAN OF JEWELRY AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND VERY MUCH OF IT, BUT I, THERE IS DEFINITELY A MOTIVE FOR EITHER OFFICERS OR JAILERS TO TAKE PROPERTY FROM DEFENDANTS. THEY ARE VULNERABLE PEOPLE. THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO STICK UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS. THEY'RE ON AVERAGE GOING TO BE IN JAIL FOR THE NEXT 45 DAYS. THEY HAVE A REAL DELAY IN THEIR ABILITY TO PUSH BACK ON ANY THEFT. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT, THAT THIS POLICY THAT THE SHERIFF HAS NO COMMENT THAT DPD CAN'T USE THEIR, UM, BODY-WORN CAMERAS INSIDE THE JAIL IS LEAVING SORT OF A BLACK HOLE. AND I WONDER IF THERE IS OR SHOULD BE A POLICY THAT DPD JUST IN ORDER TO PROTECT TO PROTECT, PROTECT, HMM, PROTECT DPD, UM, IN A, IN A CHAIN OF CUSTODY WHERE THE JAIL HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE A LITTLE BIT STICKY FINGERED, UM, WHETHER WE SHOULD PERHAPS PHOTOGRAPH THE THINGS THAT WE HAND OVER TO SHERIFF'S CUSTODY AS WE'RE DOING IT. I MEAN, IF THERE WAS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THAT HANDOFF THAT WOULD BE A LOT MORE PROTECTIVE OF THE DEPARTMENT THAN JUST WRITING DOWN YELLOW NECKLACE. I MEAN THE SHERIFF AND HER POLICIES ON THAT. WELL, THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS PASS ALONG DOCUMENTED PHOTOS OF WHAT IS HANDED OVER TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. SO IF THINGS GO MISSING, WE KNOW IT AIN'T US STOP. DR. GIBB. OH, MR. MAPLES. OH, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. YEAH, I, CAN YOU REMIND ME AGAIN OF WHAT HE SAID? THE VALUE OF THAT NECKLACE WAS $13,000. OKAY, THANK YOU. MAJOR AND INVESTIGATOR HUFF. I JUST HAVE ONE OTHER, UM, CLARIFYING 'CAUSE WHEN READING THROUGH THIS, IS IT IS IT STATED THAT A, THE DEFENDANT'S GIRLFRIEND OR SOMETHING CAME AND HE, HE RELEASED THOSE ITEMS TO BE PICKED UP BY HER AND THAT'S WHEN SHE REALIZED THAT THERE WAS A, A MISSING NECKLACE? YES. OKAY. AND SO MY CONCERN THERE IS ALSO THAT TIME WINDOW OF WHEN SOMETHING WAS REPORTED AS MISSING. 'CAUSE I'M ASSUMING SHE REPORTED, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE VALUE IS, IF IT'S ZERO VALUE, BUT IT'S SENTIMENTAL, SENTIMENTAL VALUE, THERE'S VALUE THERE AND IT'S MISSING. AND SO THAT SHOULD HAVE KICKED OFF AN INVESTIGATION IN THE SENSE OF, AS, UH, BOARD MEMBER FREEMAN SUGGESTED VIDEO, OTHER EVIDENCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HELD. SO MY CONCERN IS THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE POLICY AND HOW WE, UM, INSTITUTE AND IMPLEMENT THOSE PRACTICES FOR A DEFENDANT GOING THROUGH, UM, I'M GONNA PAUSE AT THIS TIME, UM, AND ASK THE BOARD FOR A MOTION FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. WELL, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO. DR. GILBERT SMITH. I MOVE THAT WE UM, AND NICK, YOU CAN VOTE IT UP OR DOWN. I MOVE THAT WE SUSTAIN THE WE FOR NO INVESTIGATION OR WHICH ONE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT OH, THAT WE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT, THIS IS THIS BOTH THAT WE HAVE AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. THIS IS THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FINDINGS. SO THESE [01:40:01] ARE THE FINDINGS OF THE INDEPENDENT, INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD. THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD. OR THAT IAD HAS ALREADY HAD. IF I CAN CLARIFY. SO MY, THIS IS AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION INTO THE CASE AND THE STANCE FROM THE OCPO IS THAT IT IS NOT SUSTAINED. OKAY, THANK YOU. PERHAPS WE SHOULD HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE CONCLUSION OF OUR INVESTIGATION TO INSTEAD SUGGEST A POLICY SOLUTION BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE PHOTOS WHEN HANDING A DEFENDANT AND HIS OR HER PROPERTY TO THE JAIL MIGHT BE GOOD POLICY MAKING POLICY SUGGESTIONS IS IN OUR SCOPE. YEAH, I, UH, MR. CHAIR, I BELIEVE THAT MR. WINTER ALLEN'S, UH, SUGGESTION SHOULD BE A SEPARATE MOTION, UH, THAT WE RIGHT NOW AGREE. UM, PROCEED ON THIS ONE AND THEN GET A SEPARATE MOTION. 'CAUSE I HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH HER THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE. EVERYBODY AND THEIR MAMA GOT PHONES AND ALL THOSE PHONES HAVE CAMERAS. SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF WHAT YOU'RE TURNING INTO THE SHERIFF SO THAT YOU CAN WASH YOUR HANDS OF IT. SO, UH, UM, WHAT WAS YOUR MOTION, DR. GILBERT SMITH? THAT, YEAH, SO I THINK, LET ME JUST HOLD THIS RIGHT HERE BEFORE WE GO TO A SEPARATE MOTION. LET'S, UH, HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE FINDINGS OF, UH, CN 2 0 2 2 DASH 3 75. WILLIAM BLACK. THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE US. NOW IS YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE DR. GILBERT SMITH. DR. GILBERT SMITH. I APPROVE IT. . OKAY. SO WE'RE PENDING A MOTION FROM DR. GILBERT SMITH. SO WE'LL GIVE HER, UH, A QUICK 30 SECONDS TO I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF CASE NUMBER CN 2 0 2 2 3 75. IS THAT IT? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IS THERE A DEBATE DISCUSSION? I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION. THE, THE FINDINGS, THE FINDING IS NOT SUSTAINED. AND THEN WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR POLICY OR DISCIPLINE IN CONNECTION WITH SUSTAINED ALLEGATIONS, IF ANY. AND IT KIND OF, OF COURSE, THERE ARE NO SUSTAINED ALLEGATIONS, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE A POLICY RECOMMENDATION EXCEPT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A POLICY RECOMMENDATION ON AN UNSUSTAINED ALLEGATION. UM, SO DO WE, DO WE APPROVE IT OR DO WE AMEND IT OR DO WE MAKE IT ANOTHER MOTION? MR. CHAIR? I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH, UM, HAVING A POLICY RECOMMENDATION ON ANYTHING. YEAH, WE CAN MAKE APOL YEAH, WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AND GO FOR A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN. WELL, LET ME DO A, A ROLL CALL VOTE. SORRY. MR. CHAIRMAN CAN MAYBE MAKE THE SEPARATE, UM, MOTION AT THE END DURING BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS? YEAH, WE'RE, I'M GONNA TAKE IT SEPARATE SO WE DON'T CONFUSE WHAT'S BEFORE, UM, ON THIS MOTION NOW. UM, SO THIS MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE INVESTIGATION INVESTIGATOR'S REPORT FOR, UH, CN 2 0 2 2 DASH 3 75. WILLIAM BLACK, UH, DISTRICT ONE. YAY. DISTRICT TWO, JONATHAN MAPLES. DISTRICT TWO. YAY. DISTRICT THREE. CHAGA HIGGINS. DISTRICT THREE. YAY. DISTRICT FOUR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. DISTRICT FOUR. YAY. DISTRICT FIVE. BRIAN BAUGH. DISTRICT FIVE. YAY. DISTRICT SIX THERE. P GROVE DISTRICT SIX. UH, YAY. DISTRICT SEVEN, TIM JACKSON. DISTRICT SEVEN. YAY. DISTRICT EIGHT. SO YOU THINK YOU'RE LATE. C VICTOR LANDER. DISTRICT EIGHT. YAY. DISTRICT NINE. ALLISON GREENER. ALLEN. YAY. DISTRICT 10. JENNIFER KING. DISTRICT 10. YAY. DISTRICT 11 IS VACANT. DISTRICT 12 D WADSWORTH. DISTRICT 12. YAY. DISTRICT 13. DAVID KITNER. DISTRICT 13. YES. DISTRICT 14. BRANDON FRIEDMAN. DISTRICT 14. NO, NO. DISTRICT 15 IS AS ABSENT. THE YAYS HERE HAVE IT NOW AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A POTENTIAL POLICY RECOMMENDATION. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND A CHANGE IN POLICY TO DPD THAT WHENEVER A PERSON AND OR [01:45:01] THEIR ITEMS, THEIR PERSONAL ITEMS ARE TURNED OVER TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR I SUPPOSE PARKLAND OR ANY OTHER AGENCY THAT PROPERTY IS PHOTOGRAPHED. JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT SECOND. WE PROBABLY MOVED AND SECONDED DISCUSSION. YES. I HAVE, UH, TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, TO MAJOR GREER, UH, IS MISSING PROPERTY A MAJOR ISSUE WITH THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? NO, THAT'S NOT COMMON. IT'S NOT COMMON WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OFTEN IT HAPPENS? I DON'T HAVE THE FREQUENCY OF IT. UH, MY SECOND IS REALLY NOT A QUESTION, BUT I, I I, I, I THINK THE, THE POLICY CHANGE OR RECOMMENDATION IS GOOD. UM, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO ME IT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO TASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK. DO YOU KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF HOW PEOPLE GET TO THE, UH, CHECK BOOKEND OR WHATEVER? AND I WOULD THINK IT'D BE BETTER TO HAVE THEM COME WITH SOMETHING FOR US TO LOOK AT. BUT I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. JUST THINK IT'S A MATTER OF HOW ANY OTHER ABOUT DOING THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YES, SIR. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UM, IF POLICE OFFICERS ARE USING THEIR PERSONAL PHONES TO CAPTURE PHOTOS OF EVIDENCE, WHICH IS, WOULD BE, I GUESS CITY PROPERTY OR PROPERTY THAT DOESN'T BELONG TO THAT INDIVIDUAL, DOES THAT THEN MAKE THEIR PHONES AVAILABLE FOR SUBPOENA TO BE LOOKED AT LATER ON? AND WILL THAT CREATE SOME SORT OF A CONFLICT FROM, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS INTERTWINED WITH THE PERSONAL, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE A POLICE OFFICER AND I WERE TAKING PHOTOS OF SOMEONE'S PROPERTY AND THEN I COULD LATER BE CALLED TO COURT AND HAVE MY PHONES LOOKED THROUGH, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T TAKE ANY PHOTOS SO THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE, PERHAPS THEY SHOULD USE THEIR BODY WORN CAMERA. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. AND, AND TO, TO THAT, UM, IF THEY'RE USING THEIR BODY WORN CAMERAS OR HOW ARE THEY GONNA BE ABLE TO SNAP A PHOTO OR RECORD THAT IF THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO SO IN THE PRESENCE OF THE SHERIFF IF THERE'S NO PHOTO OR VIDEO ALLOWED? VERY GOOD QUESTION. I THINK THAT'S TWO, TWO PARTS. THE FIRST PART IS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE OUR PERSONAL PHONES FOR, UH, EVIDENTIARY PURPOSES. UH, THAT'S AGAINST OUR POLICY, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT NOW THE, UH, WHAT THE SHERIFF'S POLICY IS WITH THE BODY-WORN CAMERA, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF, UH, TALKING ABOUT NOW WITH THE BOARD MAJOR GREER. I JUST, IS THERE SOME SOLUTION IN YOUR MIND TO PERHAPS BRIDGE WHAT MAY BE A GAP HERE? YEAH, IT MAY NOT BE A, A BIG ISSUE IN THE SENSE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF IT HAPPENS OFTEN ENOUGH THAT SOMETHING COULD BE DONE TO PREVENT IT. IS THERE SOMETHING IN YOUR MIND THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL HERE, GIVEN WHAT WE'VE JUST SAID HERE ABOUT THE CAMERAS AND THE, UH, UH, BODY-WORN CAMERAS AND THE CELL PHONES LIKE THAT? IT, IT'S, IT'S RARE. DOES IT HAPPEN? ABSOLUTELY. IT HAPPENS AS MANY AS, UH, THE ARREST THAT WE MADE MAKE COUPLED WITH THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY THAT WE HANDLE OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR. YOU'RE GONNA GET SOME INSTANCES WHERE PROPERTY IS MISSING. UH, BUT NOW THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME THOSE BODY-WORN CAMERAS ARE, ARE REALLY ACT TO, TO SAFEGUARD, UH, PROPERTY BEING MISSING. VAST MAJORITY OF TIME. YOU, YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE, UH, JUST AS IN THIS INSTANCE, UH, THE OFFICER PLACING THAT PROPERTY IN THE, THE CLEAR BAG. THE QUESTION IN THIS CASE IS WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN WHEN THE OFFICER HAD IT AND WHEN, UH, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT IT WAS MISSING. UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THE BODY-WORN CAMERA POLICY AS IT IS, UH, WHEN WE USE IT, YOU USE IT ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THE POINT YOU'RE IN THE JAIL. UH, IT, IT DOES THE JOB AS WHAT IT, AS IT MAJOR GREER IS. DO THE OFFICERS HAVE A, LIKE A DEPARTMENT ISSUED PHONE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT PERSONAL PHONE, IS THERE A YES. UH, NOW I THINK EVERY OFFICER ON THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD HAVE A DEPARTMENT ISSUED PHONE BY NOW. IF NOT, IT MAY BE A FEW THAT HADN'T PICKED UP THEIR PHONE OR HADN'T BEEN ISSUED ONE. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN PUSHING OUT HERE IN THE RECENT WEEKS. AND IT HAS PICTURE OR VIDEO CAPABILITIES. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. YES. OFFICER GREER, UM, WAIT, WAIT, I'M SORRY. OH, SORRY. THE CHAIR IS RECOGNIZED. SORRY. JENNY. JENNY. THANK YOU, JENNY. UM, OFFICER GREER, IS THAT POLICY OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT NEW OR IS THAT LONG STANDING AND PART TWO OF THAT WOULD BE, IS IT SOMETHING YOU WISH WOULD BE DIFFERENT? AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN'T ANSWER? YEAH, THAT THE SECOND PART I WON'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER ABOUT WHAT I WISH, BUT CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY THE, UH, THE, THE POLICY, UH, HOW LONG IT'S BEEN IN PLACE, I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT. I WOULD HAVE TO VISIT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND AND FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU, WHICH I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION IF YOU, IF YOU'D LIKE. DISTRICT SIX. GO AHEAD. SO IT'S BASICALLY, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, IT SHOULD BE, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE BASED IN ACCOUNTABILITY. [01:50:02] AND THAT GAP BETWEEN A TRUNK AND THE DOOR AT THE SHERIFF'S SPOT IS REALLY A BLACK HOLE THAT NEEDS ACCOUNTABILITY. SO YEAH, THE RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE STATED OR FOOTED IN THAT SITUATION. OKAY. MADE YOU, I'M SORRY. UM, IT, IT, IT IS ACTUALLY IN THIS WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WE LIVE IN, IT'S, IT'S, UH, AS, AS, UH, MR. PEGRAM JUST SAID THAT BLACK HOLE EVEN EXISTS, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE 90 DAY WINDOW OF OF, OF GETTING RID OF THE VIDEO, IT DON'T REALLY SIT WELL WITH ME. I MEAN, THE, THE BODY-WORN CAMERAS, YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND TAKING OFF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR HANDGUN AND NOT TAKING IT IN JAIL, BUT THAT, THAT, UH, THE CAMERA THAT DON'T SIT WELL WITH ME EITHER. AND, YOU KNOW, I GOT, I GOT A FEW PIECES OF VERY EXPENSIVE JEWELRY AND I, I LIKE TO THINK IF, IF I HAD TO GO, UH, TO THE FACILITY OR TO THE HOSPITAL OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT, THAT, UH, MY STUFF WOULD BE, UH, TAKEN CARE OF IF I COULDN'T TAKE CARE OF IT MYSELF. SO IT, IT IS VERY DISTURBING TO ME ON, ON ALL LEVELS. AND I, I BELIEVE THAT POLICY RECOMMENDATION IS IN LINE. SO, I MEAN, AT LET'S AT LEAST MOVE IT FORWARD BECAUSE IT, IT'S APPROPRIATE. OKAY. WE'RE GONNA CALL A VOTE AT THIS TIME. MR. CHAIR, THE MOTION ON BE QUICK. CAN I SPEAK SINCE YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN AND OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN MULTIPLE TIMES, I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU SPEAK A LOT, SO I'LL RECOGNIZE YEAH, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO CONTINUE THE LINE OF THOUGHT THAT MR. KIDNER WAS SAYING. I, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US TO, I TO MAKE, UH, A REQUEST OF LIKE, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH A WORKFLOW OR SOME PROCEDURE THAT WORKS AND COME BACK TO US WITH IT. UM, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKING THIS POLICY RECOMMENDATION WITHOUT KNOWING LIKE ALL OF THE STEPS AND, AND THE PROCEDURES THAT HAPPENED AND WHAT'S POSSIBLE. UM, LET THE DEPARTMENT COME UP WITH SOMETHING BASED ON, UH, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS COMMENTS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION? DR. WAIT, IT'S MINE, I BELIEVE. OKAY, ALICE. SO MY MOTION WAS THAT WE MAKE A POLICY RECOMMENDATION THAT WHENEVER SOMEONE IS HANDED OVER WITH THEIR PROPERTY, THAT THE PROPERTY IS PHOTOGRAPHED FOR THE PURPOSE OF LIMITING THE LIABILITY OF THE DEPARTMENT. UM, I DON'T GUESS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO I, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO MICROMANAGE IT. THE DEPARTMENT CAN SHAPE THAT AND, AND BRING IT BACK IF THEY'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION. SO MOVED. SECOND. I SECONDED. UH, AND I HAVE NO CHANGE EITHER. PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND, WE'RE GONNA DO A QUICK ROLL CALL. VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY YAY. THOSE OPPOSED NAY. DISTRICT ONE. UH, THE SMITH. YAY. DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT THREE. CHONGA HIGGINS. DISTRICT THREE. YAY. DISTRICT FOUR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. NO. DISTRICT FIVE. BRIAN BAUGH. DISTRICT FIVE. YAY. DISTRICT SIX. DERRICK GAN. YAY. DISTRICT SEVEN. TIM JACKSON. NO. DISTRICT EIGHT C. VICTOR LANDER. YAY. DISTRICT NINE. THAT'S ME. ALISON WINTER. ALLEN. YAY. SORRY. DISTRICT 10. UH, JENNIFER KING. DISTRICT 10. YAY. DISTRICT 11 IS VACANT. DISTRICT 12. DISTRICT 12 D WADSWORTH. NO. DISTRICT 13 . I'M IN FAVOR OF DOING SOMETHING BUT NOT DIRECTING SPECIFICALLY. I WANT LEAVE IT UP TO THE POLICE TO COME BACK TO US. WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A VOTE AT THIS TIME. I JUST, NO DISCUSSION, SO I TRYING TO STAND IT. NO, NO. THANK YOU. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14. BRANDON FRIEDMAN. YE. DISTRICT 15. OH, HE'S ABSENT THE YE'S. CA HAVE IT. UH, THE POLICY RECOMMENDATION REQUEST CARRIES. WHAT WAS THE VOTE? COUNT NINE. YAY. FOR NAY NINE TO FOUR. THANK YOU. BACK TO YOU INVESTIGATOR HUFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. OKAY, NEXT UP. I HAVE A REQUEST FOR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION BY SEL DONALDSON. ON JUNE 26TH, 2023, SEL DONALDSON SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. [01:55:01] HE ALLEGED THAT HIS DAUGHTER, MARYLEE DONALDSON, WAS ARRESTED FOR ASSAULT. SEL RESPONDED TO THE SCENE WHERE HIS DAUGHTER WAS IN THE BACK OF A POLICE VEHICLE. SEL COMPLAINED THAT HIS DAUGHTER WAS DEEMED TO BE THE AGGRESSOR AND WAS ARRESTED, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO ATTACKED HER WERE NOT ARRESTED. OEL COMPLAINED THAT AN UNKNOWN OFFICER YELLED AT HIS DAUGHTER TO PUT HER LEGS IN THE POLICE CAR AND THEN ATTEMPTED TO SHUT THE DOOR ON HER. OEL FURTHER COMPLAINED THAT OFFICER MERCEDES ASKED IF HE COULD LEAVE IF GIVEN THE NAMES OF THE OFFICERS PRESENT AFTER RECEIVING THE LIST, OELL REFUSED TO LEAVE CITING HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND WAS WARNED OF ARREST IF HE INTERFERED WITH THE INVESTIGATION. ACCORDING TO THE POLICE REPORT, UM, ON JUNE 23RD, 2023, UM, FLETCHER DEJA, ALONG WITH HER FRIEND JAY JETER, RESPONDED TO THE APARTMENT, UH, THAT WHERE MARYLEE DONALDSON RESIDED, THEY WERE GOING THERE TO PICK UP PROPERTY. UM, JAY JETER HAD BEEN LIVING THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE WITH MARYLEE DONALDSON, SO SHE HAD SOME PROPERTY THERE SHE NEEDED TO GET. UM, AND AT THAT TIME, MARYLEE DONALDSON WAS IN THE APARTMENT WITH HER FRIEND ALFRED GEORGE. SO THE FOUR OF THEM ARRIVE TO GET THIS PROPERTY OUTTA THE APARTMENT, AND SOMEHOW IN THE PARKING LOT, IT TURNS INTO A ASSAULT, SOME TYPE OF, UM, ASSAULT BETWEEN THEM. THE POLICE RESPOND. THEY TAKE STATEMENTS FROM ALL FOUR PARTIES, AND THEY ALL GIVE VARIOUS ACCOUNTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASSAULT OF WHAT OCCURRED. THE POLICE MAKE A DECISION TO ARREST DONALDSON AND, UM, HER FRIEND GEORGE FOR ASSAULT. UM, IN THE POLICE REPORT, THEY DOCUMENTED INJURIES TO THE OTHER PARTY JETER. AND SO THAT ENDED UP FOR THE, THE POLICE REPORT. UH, REVIEW THE BODY-WORN CAMERA FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SEL HAD COMPLAINED ABOUT. UM, ON OFFICER MERCEDES CAMERA, IT SAYS, SEL DONALDSON REQUESTS THE NAMES OF ALL THE OFFICERS ON THE SCENE AND SAYS HE'LL LEAVE WHEN HE GETS THOSE NAMES. MERCEDES HANDS, SEL DONALDSON, A LIST OF OFFICERS NAMES WHO WERE AT THE SCENE. OFFICER MERCEDES SAYS TO DONALDSON, YOU GOT WHAT YOU NEED. DONALDSON REPLIES, I CAN STILL STAND HERE AND TALK BRO. OFFICER MERCEDES EXPLAINS THAT IT'S OKAY AS LONG AS HE DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THE INVESTIGATION. UM, AND THEN ON O SO DONALDSON'S COMPLAINT ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER BEING IN THE BACK OF THE PATROL CAR AND THE DOOR TRYING TO BE SHUT ON HER. UM, THERE'S BODY-WORN CAMERA THAT SHOWS THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO, TO PUT MARYLEE DONALDSON IN THE BACK OF A PATROL CAR, BUT SHE'S UNABLE TO GET HER LEGS INTO THE PATROL CAR. THIS PARTICULAR PATROL CAR HAD A CAGE IN THE BACK, WHICH LIMITS THE LEG ROOM IN THE BACK OF THE PATROL CAR. THE OFFICERS MOVED MARYLEE DONALDSON TO A PATROL CAR THAT DID NOT HAVE A CAGE, AND SHE WAS ABLE TO GET HER LEGS IN THAT CAR. I DID NOT SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF THEM TRYING TO SHUT THE DOOR ON HER LEGS WHEN THEY WEREN'T IN THE CAR. UM, AND I DIDN'T EVEN SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF ANYONE YELLING AT HER TO GET IN THE CAR. ONCE THEY REALIZED SHE COULDN'T FIT IN THAT CAR, THEY JUST SIMPLY FOUND ANOTHER VEHICLE FOR TRANSPORT. UM, OSSO DONALDSON HAD MADE HIS COMPLAINT AND IT WENT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS. THEY DID A PRELIMINARY REVIEW AND THEY SENT OUT A LETTER SAYING THAT THEY CANNOT INITIATE AN INVESTIGATION BASED ON A THIRD PARTY COMPLAINT. SO IAD DID NOT, UH, DO A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION OR A FULL INVESTIGATION ON IT. UM, SO THEN SEL DONALDSON RE RESPONDED TO OUR OFFICE, REQUESTED US TO LOOK AT IT. UM, AND AGAIN, HE STATED IN HIS REQUEST TO OCPO THAT HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED BY OFFICER MERCEDES. AND MY PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE CASE, UM, I COULD NOT ESTABLISH ANY VIOLATIONS OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT OF POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. THANK YOU, INVESTIGATOR HUFF, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF REGARDING, UH, SORRY, NI 2 0 2 3 DASH 5 52 OEL DONALD JUDGE LANDER, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE INVESTIGATOR'S REPORT AND, UM, CONFIRM NO INVESTIGATION. NO INVESTIGATION. THANK YOU. YES. DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13. I SECOND THAT MOTION. I PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND, ANY QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION, WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO VOTE. THIS IS, UH, VOTE FOR TO WHETHER OR NOT TO INVESTIGATE NI 2 0 2 3 DASH 5 5 2 SELDON DONALDSON COMPLAINT, DISTRICT ONE, UH, SORRY, LET ME REPHRASE THE MOTION. SO I VOTE [02:00:01] PROPERLY. UH, IT WAS MOVED TO, TO, NO, THIS IS A NOT ACCEPT. THIS IS TO INVESTIGATE OR TO NOT INVESTIGATE NO INVESTIGATION. SO THIS IS THE MOTION IS NOT TO INVESTIGATE, UH, THIS REQUEST. DISTRICT ONE, NO INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT TWO. JONATHAN MAPLES, NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT THREE, JOHN HIGGINS, DISTRICT THREE, NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT FOUR, NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT FIVE, NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT SIX, DEREK PEGRAM. NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT SEVEN, NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT EIGHT, NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT NINE, NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT 10, NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT 11 ABSENT OR VACANT. DISTRICT 12, NO INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT 13, NO. INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14. NO. UH, DISTRICT 15 IS ABSENT. SORRY, I WENT AGAINST MY RULE OF ASKING NEGATIVE QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. . ALL RIGHT. BUT EVERYONE VOTED? NO. EVERYONE VOTED NO. SO, UH, ALL PRESENT VOTED NO. INVESTIGATION. WE COMPLETE THE SENTENCE. ALL RIGHT. MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE, UH, CN 2 0 2 3 DASH 28 5. STEVEN ROGERS INVESTIGATOR. OKAY, THIS ONE COMES TO US FROM RUSTIN, LOUISIANA. ON AUGUST 16TH, 2023, RUSTIN POLICE CHIEF STEVEN ROGERS FILED A COMPLAINT ON SERGEANT GRAY ASSERTING THAT SHE HAD FILED A FALSE AND MALICIOUS COMPLAINT AGAINST THE RUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT. UH, THE BACKGROUND'S ON THE COMPLAINT THAT, UM, SERGEANT GRAY FILED AGAINST THE RUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT. EXCUSE, EXCUSE ME JUST A SECOND. CHAIRMAN, I CAN'T FIND THAT. DO WE HAVE A COPY OF THAT? IT'S NOT IN, IT'S NOT IN OUR PACKET. I THINK IT'S EMAIL. OKAY. OKAY. SORRY, LET ME JUST CHECK. I KNOW I LOOKED AT IT IN EMAIL. IN EMAIL, YES. YES. THE SHAREPOINT LINK. IS THIS I 2 0 23? NO. MM-HMM. OH, CNC CN 2 0 2 3 DASH 180 5. STEVEN ROGERS? I HAVE, UH, I'M NOT SEEING IT. ANYONE SEEING IT IN THEIR TABS? YEAH. RIGHT. I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THIS ONE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. MOTION ON THE FLOOR TABLE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION? UH, I MEAN, IS IT TIME SENSITIVE? NO. OKAY. UH, NO, BECAUSE THIS IS AN OLD, THE OLDER ONE ONE FROM LOUISIANA. THIS IS VERY OLD. SO YEAH. PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND, I'LL JUST DO A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. WE WILL. TABLE CN 2 0 2 3 DASH 180 5 STEPHEN ROGERS, UH, TO, TO NEXT MONTH MOVING FORWARD. UM, NUMBER THREE IS CN 2 23 DASH 97 JAVAR WRIGHT, INVESTIGATOR HUFF, I GOT THAT THE COMPLAINT FROM JAVAR WRIGHT WAS ON SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2023, SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN HIS COMPLAINT. HE ALLEGED THAT IN 2022, DETECTIVE DE LEON TOOK A STATEMENT FROM WRIGHT'S EX-GIRLFRIEND, WHO IS AMANDA BURKHALTER, REGARDING HER HARASSMENT INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED IN 2020. WRIGHT CLAIMS THAT BURKE HARTER MISREPRESENTED THE NATURE OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP. HE FURTHER ALLEGES THAT DETECTIVE DE LEON DID NOT CONDUCT A PROPER INVESTIGATION AND FAILED TO REACH OUT TO HIM TO OBTAIN HIS VERSION OF THE EVENTS. WRIGHT BELIEVES THAT BIRK HALTER'S RELATIONSHIP WITH AN OFFICER IN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY BE THE REASON WHY DETECTIVE DE LEON DID NOT CONTACT HIM. DUE TO THE ALLEGED LACK OF INVESTIGATION BY DETECTIVE DE LEON WRIGHT IS CURRENTLY FACING CRIMINAL CHARGES IN DENTON COUNTY. A REVIEW OF THE POLICE REPORT, WHICH WAS DATED FEBRUARY 13TH, 2021. [02:05:03] IT WAS MADE BY AMANDA BURKHALTER AND SHE REPORTED IT TO DALLAS POLICE THAT SHE WAS DRIVING HOME WHEN HER EX-BOYFRIEND VAR RIGHT, UH, FOLLOWED HER, BLOCKED HER VEHICLE IN, AND THEN GOT OUT, STARTED TAPPING ON HER WINDOWS, AND HE ONLY LEFT AFTER SHE STARTED HONKING THE HORN, WHICH CAUSED HIM TO LEAVE. UM, SHE REPORTED THAT POLICE, THEY MADE A, UM, A REPORT AND IT WAS OFFICER TURNER WHO TOOK HER STATEMENT OF THAT. UH, THE CASE WAS ASSIGNED TO DETECTIVE DE LEON AND HE WROTE A SUPPLEMENT, WHICH IS SIMPLY STATED. THE INVESTIGATING OFFICER CONTACTED THE COMPLAINANT AND LEFT A MESSAGE WITH A CALLBACK NUMBER. THE INVESTIGATING OFFICER HAS NOT HEARD BACK FROM THE COMPLAINANT REGARDING THIS CASE. SO THEY CLOSED THAT CASE. NO CHARGES WERE FILED ON THAT. UM, WHEN MR. WRIGHT SUBMITTED HIS COMPLAINT, AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION HERE CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION. UM, AND PART OF THAT INVESTIGATION, THEY CONCLUDED THAT, UM, DETECTIVE DE LEON STATED HE WAS UNAWARE OF ANY POLICE OFFICER RELATED TO BURKE HALTER. THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION DID IDENTIFY OFFICER WAYNE WARRENS AS BEING RELATED TO BURKHALTER AS A NON-BLOOD RELATED COUSIN. AND OFFICER WARREN STATED THAT HE WAS AWARE THAT BIRK HALTER HAD BEEN A VICTIM OF HARASSMENT FOR YEARS, BUT WAS NOT INVOLVED IN HER CASE AND DID NOT KNOW THE DETECTIVE ASSIGNED TO THE CASE. BIRK HALTER HERSELF TOLD INTERNAL AFFAIRS THAT SHE NEVER SPOKE TO DETECTIVE DELEON AND THEN WAS DISCOVERED THAT DETECTIVE MATTHEW HERBERT WAS IDENTIFIED AS BEING ASSIGNED A SEPARATE HARASSMENT CASE WHERE BURKHALTER WAS THE VICTIM, AND WRIGHT WAS LISTED AS THE SUSPECT. AND HERBERT, UM, WAS UNABLE TO GET A IN CONTACT WITH WRIGHT TO ATTAIN HIS STATEMENT, BUT DETECTIVE HERBERT WAS ABLE TO FILE CHARGES AND GET A WARRANT FOR RIGHTS ARREST. UM, SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION NOTIFIED WRIGHT SAID THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH ANY VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL RULES. UH, SO MR. WRIGHT REACHED OUT TO OCPO, REQUESTED AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FOR US TO LOOK AT IT, UM, AND WE REVIEWED THE CASE. AND OCPO WAS ALSO UNABLE TO FIND ANY VIOLATION OF POLICIES OR RULES WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE, THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE CASES AND THE ONE THAT HE'S COMPLAINING ABOUT, THERE WAS NO RELATION. THE, HER RELATION WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THAT CASE. CORRECT. AND THE OTHER CASE WHERE HE'S ARRESTED ON AGAIN, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HER RELATIVE. CORRECT. HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RELATIVES. RIGHT. SO HE, HE, WELL, SO THERE'S NOTHING, YEAH, THERE ARE SEVERAL CASES THAT, UM, UM, BI HALTER HAD COMPLAINED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HARASSMENT FROM, FROM MR. WRIGHT, AND YOU'LL SEE THE SECOND REQUEST FOR INVESTIGATION WAS ALSO RELATED TO THAT. I I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. HOW DID, HOW DID MR. WRIGHT FIND OUT ABOUT THE FIRST INVESTIGATION IF NO CHARGES WERE FILED? IF IT RESOLVED TO NOTHING, DO WE KNOW? YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING LIKE HOW HE KNEW ABOUT THE POLICE REPORT? YEAH, I MEAN, SO THE ALLEGATION IS THAT HE FOLLOWED HIS EX-GIRLFRIEND HOME AND LIKE TAPPED ON HER WINDOW AND WAS ANNOYING HER AND MAYBE INTIMIDATING HER UNTIL SHE STARTS HONKING HER HORN AND HE GOES AWAY. RIGHT. AND THAT INVESTIGATION RESOLVES TO NOTHING. HE DOESN'T GET CHARGED WITH ANYTHING. HOW DOES HE KNOW ABOUT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT RELATES TO ANY CHARGES IN DENTON COUNTY, AND I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW HE FINDS OUT ABOUT THAT IN ORDER TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT TO US. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS TO EXACTLY WHAT HE FOUND OUT, BUT I THINK WHEN HE GOT THE WARRANT, WHEN THE CHARGES WERE FILED, HE TRIED TO BACKTRACK TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HE'S TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT HE'S INNOCENT AND THAT HE HAS EVIDENCE, BUT NO ONE EVER CONTACTED HIM. HE SENT, HE'S INNOCENT OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN DENTON COUNTY BECAUSE HE DIDN'T TAP ON HIS GIRLFRIEND'S WINDOW IN DALLAS COUNTY. . OKAY. ALRIGHT, COOL. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF? JUDGE LANDER? I MOVE, UH, FINE. HOLD ON [02:10:01] QUESTION. SORRY. SO, SO OFFICER WAYNE WARRENS STATED HE WAS AWARE THAT BURAL HAD BEEN A VICTIM OF HARASSMENT YES. FOR YEARS? YES. SO, SO WAS THAT I GUESS, OH, IT SAYS INTERNAL INTERNAL AFFAIRS IDENTIFIED WARRENS AND HE TOLD THAT TO IED OR? YES. OKAY, BUT HE WASN'T THE ONE WHO DO IT. HE, YES. AND THAT WAS A SEPARATE CASE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF? IT WAS OKAY. ALRIGHT. I THINK JUDGE LANDR IS ABOUT TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, ANOTHER NEGATIVE MOTION. , I MOVE THAT, UH, WE ACCEPT THE REPORT AS GIVEN AND THAT WOULD BE NO INVESTIGATION. FURTHER SECOND. PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND WE'LL GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE. WHERE'S MY SHEET? YOU CAN'T VOTE TO THE CHAIR. DO A VOICE VOTE? OH, LET'S DO A VOICE VOTE FOR THIS ONE. YES. UH, WE'RE GONNA DO A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF NOT INVESTIGATING. AYE AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. SO GOOD. INVESTIGATOR HUFF WILL, UH, LET YOU PRESENT ON THE SECOND. THIS IS THE SECOND AND LAST ONE FOR THE EVENING. IT'S ALSO SUBMITTED BY, UH, VAR WRIGHT ON NOVEMBER 30TH, 2023, UH, MR. WRIGHT FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ALLEGING THAT OFFICER MOHAMMED REFUSED TO TAKE HIS INFORMATION REGARDING A 2020 CRIME REPORT IN WHICH HIS EX-GIRLFRIEND, AMANDA BURKHALTER, ALLEGEDLY PROVIDED FALSE INFORMATION. WRIGHT CLAIMED THAT WHEN HE CONTACTED OFFICER MOHAMMED ON NOVEMBER 30TH, 2023 TO PROVIDE PROOF THAT BIRK HALTER HAD LIED IN THE 2020 REPORT, OFFICER MOHAMMED REFUSED TO DOCUMENT THIS INFORMATION AND TOLD HIM TO LET THE COURTS FIGURE IT OUT. THE POLICE REPORT THAT OFFICER WRIGHT HAD REFERENCED THE 2020 POLICE REPORT WAS GENERATED BACK ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2020 AND WAS CLASSIFIED AS A MISCELLANEOUS INCIDENT REPORT, NO OFFENSE. AND THAT REPORT, UM, BERK HALTER HAD CALLED THE POLICE SAYING THAT, UM, WRIGHT WAS REFUSING TO LEAVE HER APARTMENT. APPARENTLY THEY HAD BEEN LIVING TOGETHER FOR A FEW MONTHS AND HE WAS REFUSING TO LEAVE. THE POLICE RESPONDED, THEY ADVISED HER IT WAS A CIVIL PROBLEM. UM, AND SHE WOULD HAVE TO EVICT HIM. UM, AND I DID FIND A SECOND POLICE REPORT THAT WAS DATED NOVEMBER 30TH, 2023, WHICH IS THE SAME DAY THAT HE HAD, UM, CONTACTED OFFICER MOHAMMED IN TRYING TO GET HER TO ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THAT ORIGINAL REPORT THIS NOVEMBER 30TH REPORT. UM, IT'S DOCUMENTED IN THE REPORT THAT WRIGHT SAID HE HAD ONGOING LEGAL CASES WITH AMANDA BURKHALTER, AND THAT THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM WERE FALSE. WRIGHT CLAIMED HE HAD PROOF OF HIS INNOCENCE, BUT THAT NOBODY WOULD LISTEN TO HIM. AND WRIGHT WAS REQUESTING A POLICE REPORT TO DOCUMENT HIS CLAIMS. AND, UM, AND THAT WAS ALL DOCUMENTED IN THIS POLICE REPORT. UH, HE SUBMITTED THAT COMPLAINT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS. INTERNAL AFFAIRS SENT HIM A LETTER SAYING THEY DO NOT REVIEW CASES THAT OCCUR WITHIN A, AFTER A 60 DAY OCCURRENCE. SO NO INVESTIGATION WAS DONE BY INTERNAL AFFAIRS. UH, MR. WRIGHT APPEALED TO OCPO STATING THAT THE ALLEGED OFFENSE OCCURRED ON NOVEMBER 30TH, 2023. SO IT WAS WITHIN THE 60 DAY PERIOD. UM, OCPO REVIEWED IT. UM, HOWEVER, WE COULD NOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF VIOLATIONS OF POLICE POLICY. THANK YOU, INVESTIGATOR HUFF. BOARD MEMBER MAPLES. IT SOUNDS LIKE A CIVIL MATTER. SOUNDS LIKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THIS CASE. I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THIS REPORT AND PERFORM NO INVESTIGATION. SECOND, IT HAS BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION DEBATE, WE'LL TAKE A VOICE. VOTE FOR THIS ONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF NOT INVESTIGATING FURTHER, AYE, AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT, NO INVESTIGATION FOR NI 2 0 2 3 DASH 1282. FOR JAVAR WRIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD, UH, LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OUR POLICY ANALYST FOR THE POLICY ANALYST REPORT. OH, SHE'S ALREADY THERE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. HOUSE BILL 9 0 9, ALSO KNOWN AS THE GEORGE FLOYD ACT, SEEKS TO REFORM LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICIES IN TEXAS. THIS LEGISLATION AIMS TO INCREASE ACCOUNTABILITY, REGULATE THE USE OF FORCE, AND [02:15:01] ESTABLISH LEGAL STANDARDS FOR PUBLIC ENTITY LIABILITY. A FEW KEY PROVISIONS OF HB 9 0 9 ARE PUBLIC ENTITIES, INCLUDING STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, WILL BE HELD LIABLE FOR WRONGFUL ACTIONS COMMITTED BY THEIR PEACE OFFICERS ACTING UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW. THE BILL ELIMINATES QUALIFIED IMMUNITY AS A DEFENSE AND CIVIL LAWSUITS RELATED TO CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS AND THE USE OF FORCE RESTRICTION. THE USE OF CHOKE HOLDS, CORRODED ARTERY HOLDS AND SIMILAR NECK RESTRAINTS ARE PROHIBITED UNLESS NECESSARY TO PREVENT IMMINENT SERIOUS BODILY INJURY OR DEATH. AND THE DUTY TO INTERVENE PROVISION OFFICERS ARE REQUIRED TO INTERVENE AND REPORT INCIDENTS WHEN WITNESSING A COLLEAGUE USING EXCESSIVE FORCE AND THE DISCIPLINE DISCIPLINARY MATRIX PROVISION. LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES MUST ADOPT A STANDARDIZED SYSTEM FOR DISCIPLINING OFFICERS. THIS SAME LANGUAGE IS ALSO REFERENCED IN HB 8 81, WHICH IS ALSO AUTHORED BY NIA THOMPSON OF HOUSTON. IN THE SITE AND RELEASE PROVISION, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES MUST IMPLEMENT POLICIES MANDATING THE ISSUANCE OF CITATIONS INSTEAD OF ARRESTS FOR FINE ONLY MISDEMEANORS, EXCEPT IN CASES SUCH AS ASSAULT OR PUBLIC INTOXICATION. AND HB 9 0 9, USE OF FORCE TRAINING REFORMS MANDATE OFFICERS TO UNDERGO TRAINING AND DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES, INTERVENTION DUTIES, AND CAUTIONARY USE OF DEADLY FORCE. LASTLY, HB NINE REQUIRES PETITIONS, JUDGEMENTS, SETTLEMENTS, AND CONSENT DECREES RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT MISCONDUCT CASES TO BE PUBLICLY DISCLOSED IF ENACTED. HBO 9 0 9 WILL ELIMINATE QUALIFIED IMMUNITY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HOLDING PUBLIC ENTITIES LIKE THE CITY OF DALLAS, LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR WRONGFUL ACTIONS COMMITTED BY OFFICERS PERFORMING THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES. THIS BILL ALIGNS WITH THE NATIONAL DEESCALATION STANDARD BY IMPOSING STRICT LIMITATIONS ON USE OF FORCE AND BAN ON CHOKE HOLDS EXCEPT IN LIFE THREATENING SITUATIONS. I ALSO HAVE A LEGISLATIVE UPDATE IF YOU CAN TURN TO THE BLUE AND GREEN LEGISLATIVE UPDATE SHEET, WHICH I BELIEVE MAY BE AFTER THE BILL, WHICH IS LIKE 28 PAGES. SO YOU'LL BE FLIPPING FOR A LITTLE BIT. BUT AS OF TODAY, LAWMAKERS HAVE FILED OVER 3,990 BILLS. AGAIN, JUST TO REITERATE, ALL BILLS LISTED IN THIS DOCUMENT HAVE A HYPERLINK ATTACHED, AND IF YOU CLICK ON IT, IT WILL TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE PAGE THAT WILL DETAIL ACTIONS, HISTORY, HEARING DATES, OR ANYTHING, OR ANY SUPPORTING INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT PARTICULAR BILL. I DO HAVE AN UPDATE FOR SB TWO 80 AND SB 2 81. THEY WERE BOTH REFERRED TO THE SENATE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMITTEE ON FEBRUARY 3RD. SO I WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THOSE TWO TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A HEARING DATE. I'VE ALSO INCLUDED HB 9 0 9 UNDER THE RETENTION OF OFFICER MISCONDUCT COMPLAINT RELATED BILLS IN THE SAME FORM. THIS BILL WAS ALSO FILED IN 2020 IN THE 87TH TEXAS LEGISLATURE, UNDER HOUSE BILL 88. AUTHORED AGAIN BY THE SAME REPRESENTATIVE THOMPSON FROM HOUSTON, ALONG WITH TWO COMPANION BILLS SB 1224 AND SB 1 61. BOTH BILLS WERE FILED AND AUTHORED BY SENATOR WEST, SENATOR WEST OF DALLAS, HB 88 DID HAVE A HEARING BUT DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE. AND JUST A NOTE, COMPANION BILLS ARE USUALLY FILED TO EXPEDITE THE PASSAGE OF A BILL. AND THEN I'VE ALSO INCLUDED A FEW DATES FOR THE LEGISLATIVE CALENDAR AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SAME SHEET. MARCH 14TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR FILING NEW BILLS. JUNE 2ND IS THE FINAL DAY FOR SESSION, WHICH IS FORMERLY KNOWN AS SIGNEE D. AND THEN JUNE 22ND IS THE FINAL DAY THAT GOVERNOR, THAT THE GOVERNOR CAN SIGN OR VETO, VETO ANY BILL PASSED DURING THE REGULAR SESSION. AND THEN SEPTEMBER 1ST IS WHEN MOST NEW LAWS WILL TAKE EFFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR POLICY ANALYSTS? ? I HAVE ONE. UM, SO, UH, IS THERE ANY KIND OF, UH, I GUESS INFORMATION YOU'RE GETTING ABOUT THE TEMPERATURE OF 9 0 9 ACTUALLY BEING, BECOMING A REALITY? UM, I'M NOT TOO SURE ABOUT 9 0 9, BUT I KNOW HB 88 HAD, AGAIN, TWO COMPANION BILLS. MM-HMM . UM, IT DID MAKE IT TO A HEARING AND HAD TESTIMONY, BUT IT WAS LEFT PENDING IN COMMITTEE AS WELL. OKAY. SO YOU SAID 8 88 81. AND [02:20:01] SO HB 88, WHICH WAS OH, OKAY. YEAH, HB 88 WAS IN THE 87TH TEXAS LEGISLATURE, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THIS BILL. MM-HMM . UM, I BELIEVE THIS BILL'S A LITTLE BIT LONGER. IT GOES MORE IN DEPTH ON CERTAIN POLICIES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE ON TO D COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, MR. GUERRERO AND MS. PEREZ. SO I THINK THERE'S THE OFFICER DEMOGRAPHIC. I BELIEVE THAT, OH, I'M SORRY. SKIPPED ONE. YOU'RE STILL ON THE FLOOR. . THANK YOU. UM, IF YOU LOOK IN THE PACKET, THE FIRST DOCUMENT DETAILS, THE LETTER THAT WE SENT TO INTERIM CHIEF IGO OF THE BOARD APPROVED REQUESTS FOR DATA REGARDING THE DEMOGRAPHICS. THIS IS TAB SIX, RIGHT? YES, CORRECT. UM, AGAIN, THIS DOCUMENT DETAILS THE LETTER THAT WE SENT TO INTERIM CHIEF IGO FOR THE BOARD APPROVE REQUESTS FOR DATA REGARDING THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND ASSIGNMENTS OF DPD OFFICERS AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES RESIDING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF DALLAS. SPECIFICALLY, THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED THE NUMBER OF PERCENTAGE OF SWORN OFFICERS AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES RESIDING WITHIN DALLAS CITY LIMITS RESIDENCY DATA CATEGORIZED BY RANK DETAILING THE NUMBER AND PERCENTAGE OF OFFICERS AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES LIVING WITHIN THE CITY. BREAKDOWN OF SWORN OFFICERS RESIDING IN DALLAS, CATEGORIZED BY RANK, RACE, ETHNICITY, AND GENDER AND RESIDENCY DATA CATEGORIZED BY THE DIVISION OR UNIT TO WHICH OFFICERS AND CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES ARE ASSIGNED. AND THE RESIDENCY BREAKDOWN WITHIN DALLAS CITY LIMITS, THERE ARE 243 TOTAL CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES, 539 TOTAL SWORN OFFICERS, AND A GRAND TOTAL OF SEVENTY SEVEN HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO. OUTSIDE OF THE DALLAS CITY LIMITS, THERE ARE 441 TOTAL CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES, 2,629 TOTAL SWORN OFFICERS, AND A GRAND TOTAL OF 3070. WITHIN THE DALLAS POLICE DE DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE 684 TOTAL CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES, 3,168 TOTAL SWORN OFFICERS, 3,852 IN TOTAL. AND THE RESIDENCY PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWN WITHIN DALLAS CITY LIMITS, 35 POINT 53% ARE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. 17.01% ARE SWORN OFFICERS OUTSIDE THE DALLAS CITY LIMITS. 64.47% ARE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. 82 82 0.99% ARE SWORN OFFICERS. AND IN THE DIVISION AND UNIT BREAKDOWN, THERE ARE SIX ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE NINE, DEPUTY CHIEF OF POLICE, TWO EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEFS OF POLICE, ONE POLICE CAPTAIN 87 POLICE LIEUTENANTS, 23 POLICE MAJORS, 1,157, POLICE OFFICERS 27 POLICE OFFICER TRAINEE 1 72, POLICE OFFICER TRAINEE TWOS 1017 POLICE SENIOR CORPORALS 486 POLICE SERGEANTS, AND A GRAND TOTAL OF 3,168 SWORN OFFICERS. AND FOR THE RANK, RACE AND GENDER BREAKDOWN, A COMPREHENSIVE BREAKDOWN OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE ATTACHMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, FOR DEMOGRAPHICS AND RESIDENCE DATA? MR. CHAIRMAN? NO, THIS IS JUST, UH, OUR REQUEST AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THE DATA. MR. CHAIRMAN'S COMMENT? YES. UM, BOARD MEMBER, I DON'T, I DON'T. BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14. I I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION HERE IS. I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THIS IS BAD BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT, UM, POLICE POLICING THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES, UH, OPENS UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CORRUPTION. SO THAT'S ONE ARGUMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE, UM, AGAINST HAVING SO MANY PEOPLE POLICE THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES. HOWEVER, I FEEL LIKE 83% OF DALLAS COPS NOT LIVING IN DALLAS IS WAY TOO HIGH. UM, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T HAVE A PERSONAL STAKE IN THE CITY. UM, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S A GOOD THING. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY SOLUTIONS HERE OR SUGGESTIONS, BUT I [02:25:01] JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING WHY THAT IS, UM, HOW THAT NUMBER GOT SO HIGH AND WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT ARE. SO I MAY WELL REMEMBER ALICE, SORRY, ALISON, GRAND ALLEN, DISTRICT NINE. UM, I'M THRILLED TO SEE SO MUCH DETAILED INFORMATION PRODUCED SO QUICKLY BY THE DEPARTMENT. I LOVE THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, PLEASE PASS ON OUR THANKS ABOUT THAT. UM, I AM, OF COURSE, THE LAW PREVENTS ANY CITY FROM REQUIRING RESIDENCY. I KIND OF AGREE WITH, UM, BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN THAT IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO HAVE MORE SWORN OFFICERS LIVING IN COMMUNITY WITH US HERE IN DALLAS. I WONDER IF AT THE RISK OF BEING JUST UNBEARABLY MODERATE ON THIS ISSUE, I WONDER IF THERE MIGHT BE A TIE IN WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. I WONDER IF IT IS REALLY, REALLY PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE TO LIVE, UM, IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND PERHAPS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE COULD DO TO EITHER INCENTIVIZE OR ASSIST OFFICERS WHO WANT TO LIVE IN COMMUNITY WITH US TO, TO OWN OR RENT WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS. UM, AND I KIND OF, I'M ENCOURAGING MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, IF YOU AGREE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE AND SUGGEST THAT MAYBE SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS MIGHT BE COME TO THAT CAN HELP OUR OFFICERS LIVE IN DALLAS, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. CERTAINLY THE COMMUTE WOULD BE BETTER. RIGHT? I THINK YOU, THE BOARD MEMBER MAPLE, GO AHEAD. YOU WERE, YOU WERE BEFORE. I SEE YOUR MIC'S ON. I WAS GOING BY MIKE'S. YEAH, BUT HERS, HERS WAS ON, SHE TURNED IT OFF GILBERT SMITH. THAT IS THE REASON WHY THEY DON'T LIVE IN DALLAS. IT'S, IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE ON THEIR CURRENT SALARIES. AND I DO KNOW THAT, UM, SEVERAL OFFICERS LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE. WHY, WHY MR. CHAIRMAN? SORRY, GO AHEAD. WE BRING FROM THIS, WHY ARE WE SAYING THAT IT'S NOT, WAIT, HOLD ON ONE SEC. I DON'T, DID I SKIP OVER YOU? I SEE YOUR MIC'S ON AND I CALLED YOU. GO AHEAD. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FINE, MAN. OKAY. YOU, YOU WERE, YOU WERE SPEAKING A SECOND PART, SO BEFORE YOU LOSE YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT ON YOUR SECOND. OKAY, GO AHEAD, BOARDMAN. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, I, I, I'M NOT, I, I, I UNDERSTAND IT'S EXPENSIVE TO LIVE IN DALLAS AND POLICE OFFICERS MAYBE SHOULD MAKE MORE MONEY, BUT, UM, I MEAN, I LIVE ADJACENT TO A, A POOR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. IF, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT NO ONE CAN LIVE IN DALLAS UNDER WHAT DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS MAKE. THEY MAKE A DECENT SALARY. AND I, THERE, THERE'S LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN DALLAS THAT WHERE THE MEDIAN INCOME IS LOWER THAN WHAT POLICE OFFICERS MAKE. SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT WOULD EXPLAIN IT FOR SURE. NO, I, YOU KNOW, I'M SUGGESTING ONLY THAT IN DALLAS WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF POOR FOLKS AND A LARGE NUMBER OF RICH FOLKS AND POLICE OFFICERS WHO TEND TO BE MIDDLE INCOME, HAVE NOT A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING IN DALLAS. AND PERHAPS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE THE BUILDING OF MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING, PERHAPS ENCOURAGE OFFICERS TO, TO, OR HELP OFFICERS TO BUY OR RENT IN THE, IN THE CITY IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. MEMBER MAPLES. SO, JOHN, JONATHAN MAPLE DISTRICT TWO, AND, AND YES, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT AT A HOUSING, UM, BOARD MEETING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A PROBLEM HERE IN DALLAS. AVERAGE HOUSE $300,000, THAT'S AFFORDABLE. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE GOT THAT NUMBER FROM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT MOST APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, MAJOR, UH, MOST APARTMENT COMPLEXES DO GIVE POLICE OFFICERS SOME TYPE OF STIPEND IF THEY RENT WITH THEM IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. IS THAT CORRECT? THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT DO. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MOST, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON, I'LL SAY THAT. OKAY. OKAY. AND I AGREE THAT THAT NUMBER IS ASTRONOMICAL THAT MOST POLICE OFFICERS DON'T LIVE IN, IN THE CITY. BUT I TELL YOU IN ONE INSTANCE, IN IN, IN ELM THICKETT, THERE'S A COMMUNITY JUST ADJACENT TO, UH, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UH, A KID GREW UP OVER THERE. HE'S A POLICE OFFICER. HE'S BEEN A POLICE OFFICER ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW, AND HE'S ONE OF OUR NPOS, HE'S ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS. AND THERE IS A HUGE BENEFIT TO SOMEBODY GROWING UP EITHER IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR CLOSE TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO SERVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. [02:30:01] SO, YEAH, I, I, I THINK THAT, UH, EH, MAYBE, MAYBE WE SHOULD BRING IT UP TO THE COUNCIL PEOPLE. WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES. BUT THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF INCENTIVE INCENTIVE FOR POLICE OFFICERS TO PATROL AREAS THAT THEY, UH, GREW UP IN OR KNEW, OR KNOW VERY WELL, BECAUSE IT CUTS DOWN ON THE LIKELIHOOD OF, OF THOSE MAJOR INCIDENTS THAT NONE OF US ACTUALLY ACTUALLY WANT. SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY PIECE. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER JACKSON . I, I'M GONNA BE A LITTLE CYNICAL HERE. UM, I WAS ON ZONING COMMISSION, AND ALSO MY BACKGROUND IS REAL ESTATE AND REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT. I, I THINK IF WE REALLY WANT ANOTHER, THE TRUE CAUSE AS TO WHY POLICE OFFICERS DON'T LIVE IN DALLAS, YOU SHOULD POLL THEM AND FIGURE THAT OUT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A SAYING IN BUSINESS NOT TO DO CERTAIN THINGS WHERE YOU EAT. UM, BUT IF YOU ARE IN A POSITION OR A JOB THAT REQUIRES YOU TO FIGHT CRIME, MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO SLEEP WHERE YOU WORK. SO MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN GO TAKE THAT BACK TO THE, THE DEPARTMENT AND ASK THEM AND POLL THEM, BECAUSE WE DID RECEIVE THESE NUMBERS RATHER QUICKLY. UH, BUT TO ASSUME THAT IT'S IN HOUSING CRISIS AND THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING PROFESSIONALS NOT TO LIVE IN THE CITY. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF PREMATURE. UM, THAT'S JUST MY TAKE ON IT. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WOULD CALL A GOOD SALARY FOR A POLICE OFFICER. UM, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS IN DALLAS AND IN OTHER DISTRICTS, AND MANY OF THE ONES THAT I KNOW DON'T LIVE IN DALLAS EITHER. AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS. IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH OTHER FACTORS, AND SPECIFICALLY THEM NOT WANTING TO MAYBE SHOP , EAT, RELAX IN COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY PATROL AND WORK. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I SAW THAT WITH MY OWN WIFE WHO'S AN EDUCATOR. SHE WANTED TO LIVE IN THE DISTRICT OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE SHE TAUGHT. AND WITHIN A MONTH, SHE REALIZED THAT WAS NOT WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO BECAUSE SHE WOULD SEE EVERYBODY FROM WORK AT THE GROCERY STORE. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD POLL THEM AND SEE WHY THAT IS. UM, I'M SURE THERE'S A CORRELATION AS TO MAYBE WHY PEOPLE FEEL THE POLICE RESPOND A CERTAIN WAY, AND MAYBE WE CAN DO MORE RESEARCH ON THAT. BUT I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF PREMATURE TO ASSUME THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE. BECAUSE LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU'VE MENTIONED, EVEN WHERE I LIVE, YOU HAVE HOMES THAT ARE OVER 300,000 AND YOU HAVE HOMES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THAT ARE 150,000. SO WE CAN'T JUST ASSUME THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY'RE NOT THERE. I GUESS I, I, I TOTALLY AGREE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IN THOSE TIMES WHEN WE DID, WE WERE STRONGER. YEAH. I MEAN, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD A LITTLE COMMENTARY MYSELF. I, I, I GUESS I'M KIND OF AROUND THE BOARD ON ALL OF THIS, BUT ULTIMATELY TO ME, I, AND THERE'S NUANCE ABOUT WHERE OFFICERS LIVE, RIGHT? OFFICERS COULD HAVE GROWN UP IN A CERTAIN COMMUNITY AND NOW THEY'RE AT FAMILY TIME. THEY'VE MOVED OUTTA THAT COMMUNITY, BUT THEY COULD STILL SERVE VERY WELL IN THAT COMMUNITY, KNOWING INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY GREW UP WITH OR LIVE WITH, ET CETERA. UM, SO I GUESS MY POINT IS NOT SO MUCH OF THE MANDATE OR TRYING TO INVESTIGATE WHY OFFICERS ARE NOT LIVING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. I'M MORE CONCERNED ON HOW OFFICERS ARE BEHAVING ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, IF YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, YOU'RE TRAINED PROPERLY AND YOU'RE RESPECTING THE CITIZENS, THEN I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A TWO HOUR COMMUTE DRIVE THAT'S ON YOU, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS ARE, YOU KNOW, LET'S UNDER, WE CAN ASK FOR MORE DATA SURVEY OFFICERS, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW ARE THE OFFICERS PERFORMING? AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHERE I THINK OUR MIND SHOULD REALLY BE FOCUSED ON VERSUS WHERE ARE THE OFFICERS LIVING. AND WITH THAT, I'LL CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIRMAN, I GUESS SAY VICE ACTING CHAIRMAN. THE CHAIRMAN IS ACTING, IS BACK IN THE ROOM. AND I WILL LIKE TO, UH, PASS THIS MIC BACK TO HIM, BUT GO AHEAD. UH, UM, D DISTRICT 12, YOU KNOW, I WORKED FOR ONE CORPORATION, HUGE CORPORATION, 26 YEARS. IF THEY EVER ASK ME, WHY DO YOU LIVE IN A DIFFERENT CITY IN WHICH YOU WORK AND KNOW A COMMUNITY, AND IT, THEY WERE NEIGHBORING CITIES, BUT WHY DO YOU LIVE IN X CITY AND YOU'RE WORKING OVER HERE IN Y CITY? I WOULD'VE SAID, IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. BECAUSE I DO AN EXCELLENT JOB, AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH I WORK, AND I KNOW THOSE PEOPLE, AND I'M SERVING THAT COMMUNITY. SO I THINK IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE, WHETHER IT'S THEIR SPOUSE'S JOB OR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, OR THE COST OF WHATEVER REASON, THEY'RE LIVING WHERE THEY WANNA LIVE. AND IT'S NOT ANY OF OUR BUSINESS. AND CERTAINLY WITH THE CITY CHARGED WITH HIRING MANY, MANY MORE OFFICERS TO TRY TO DO SOME INVESTIGATION OF WHY THEY'RE LIVING IN COMMUNITY X OR COMMUNITY Y JUST DIS [02:35:01] ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO JOIN THE POLICE FORCE. THAT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE TO WHAT WE WANNA DO IS HAVE THE BEST POLICING IN OUR WHOLE STATE. THANK YOU. THANK, GO JUDGE LANDER. JUDGE LANDER. JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT. FIRST, LET ME COMMEND THE OFFICE FOR HAVING DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF OBTAINING INFORMATION, WHICH I'VE WANTED TO SEE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. UM, AND I COMMEND THE DEPARTMENT FOR GIVING THAT INFORMATION AS QUICKLY AS YOU ALL HAVE. I APPRECIATE THAT. I SERVED AS A JUDGE IN THIS CITY FOR 27 YEARS BEFORE I FOUND MY WAY OVER HERE. AND AS A JUDGE FOR THIS CITY, I WAS REQUIRED TO LIVE IN THIS CITY. ALL OF US WERE JUDGES AND ASSOCIATE OR, UM, YEAH, ASSOCIATE JUDGES. I UNDERSTAND DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE REQUIRED TO LIVE IN THE CITY. THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. YOU LIVE IN THE CITY BECAUSE YOU WORK IN THE CITY. AND THE POLICE, UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE POSITION OF A POLICE OFFICER IS DIFFERENT FROM THE POSITION OF A REGULAR EMPLOYEE, UM, OR SOMEONE WHO WORKS FOR A CORPORATION. POLICE OFFICERS HAVE A CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITY, I BELIEVE, AND ONE OF THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO BE WHERE THEY KNOW EVERYONE TO BE HAPPY ABOUT GOING TO THE STORE AND HAVING SOMEONE SAY, THIS IS OFFICER SUCH AND SUCH TO BE WELCOMING. AND ALSO IT IS A DETERRENT TO CRIME TO HAVE A POLICE CAR PARKED ON THE YARD OR OUTSIDE THE HOUSE OR OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S NOT GONNA COME IN THERE AND BREAK THE WINDOWS OF THE OTHER CARS BECAUSE THERE'S A POLICE CAR SITTING THERE. UH, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME. UM, AND THESE NUMBERS REALLY, REALLY OFFEND ME. 82.99% OF SWORN OFFICERS LIVING OUTSIDE THE CITY OF LIMITS OF DALLAS. THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT, INCREASING THE SALARY OF THE POLICE. THAT WOULD BE NICE. THAT MIGHT HELP. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS YOU NEED TO BE WHERE YOU ARE NEEDED. AND, UM, UH, WHEN YOU HEAR RESPONSE TIMES BEING TWO, TWO AND THREE HOURS, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE THE OFFICERS CLOSER BY. THAT'S MY TAKE BOARD MEMBER KIDNER. UM, I'M NOT OFFENDED BY THESE NUMBERS. THEY'RE INTERESTING. BUT THAT'S IT. AND I AGREE WITH MS. WATFORD AND YOU, WE NEED, WE SHOULD BE USING OUR TIME ON OTHER MATTERS, AND THOSE OTHER MATTERS ARE HAVING THE BEST POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE CAN. AND SO, WHILE THE NUMBERS ARE INTERESTING, THERE'S JUST NOT MUCH THAT WE CAN OR SHOULD DO WITH THEM, IN MY OPINION. BOARD MEMBER JENNY, AGREE WITH Y'ALL ON THAT. BUT I DO THINK IT'S INTERESTING DATA AND I PLAN TO SHARE IT WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBER. UM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME CREATIVE WAYS OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT TRYING TO HIRE, UM, THE LARGE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS THAT'S BEING REQUIRED BY THE VOTE THAT WAS MADE. AND SO I JUST THINK A DATA POINT IS GOOD TO HAVE. UM, I'M NOT TELLING HER WHAT TO THINK ABOUT IT BEYOND THAT, BUT I I THINK KATHY WILL BE PLEASED TO KNOW ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER? CHANGA? SORRY, I DIDN'T NO, IT'S FINE. UM, I DON'T, UH, JUST, JUST SINCE WE ARE KIND OF ALL GIVING COMMENTARY AND OPINION ON THIS, UM, FROM LIVED EXPERIENCE AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE WHO'S LIVED IN THIS CITY FOR OVER 20 YEARS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST SAY THIS, AND MY THOUGHT WAS IS WHEN I'M IN OAK CLIFF AND I GET STOPPED BY AN OFFICER THAT GREW UP IN OAK CLIFF, UH, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE THAN SOMEBODY WHO MAYBE CAME FROM ANOTHER COMMUNITY WHO NEVER LIVED IN THAT COMMUNITY, WHO MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, SOCIALIZED OR EDUCATED TO LOOK AT THIS COMMUNITY IN A PROBLEMATIC WAY. AND THEIR, AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT EVEN THEIR, THEIR LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM IS DIFFERENT, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY DIFFERENT WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE FROM THAT COMMUNITY POLICING THAT COMMUNITY AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH PEOPLE FROM THAT COMMUNITY. SO THESE NUMBERS, UM, ARE MORE THAN INTERESTING FOR ME. RIGHT. UM, I THINK THESE NUMBERS REFLECT WHAT I HEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREETS WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT HOW, UM, A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING WITH POLICE OFFICERS IS BECAUSE THOSE POLICE OFFICERS DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE LOOKING AT IN THOSE COMMUNITIES. THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE, AND THEY TREAT EVERYBODY [02:40:02] THE SAME WAY. AND SO, UM, I WOULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO EXPLORE, I, I, I'LL JUST FILE, I, I AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER JACKSON. LIKE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE THE DEPARTMENT HAS IS PROBABLY ADDRESSING POLICE ASSOCIATIONS, PROBABLY ADDRESSING IN SOME KIND OF WAY. I LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING, WHAT THEY'RE DOING ALREADY, UH, AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S COME UP BEFORE. UM, SO, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING OR EVEN ANYTHING WE CAN SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, UM, AS A BOARD THAT'S HAPPENING TO CHANGE THOSE NUMBERS, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO SEE THAT IF YOU KNOW, MAJOR, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD LEARN ABOUT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE, WE TASK YOU WITH A LOT, BUT . BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE COULD, THAT WE COULD LEARN ABOUT OR KNOW ABOUT, OR IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO PARTNER TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATE FOR SOME SOLUTIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY WORKING ON, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN THE FUTURE. AND, AND, AND ONE LAST THING, UH, MAJOR MAY MAYBE, MAYBE YOU COULD SUGGEST TO THE CHIEF, MAYBE YOU COULD JUST ENCOURAGE HIM THAT I MENTIONED THE NPOS, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS AND, AND EACH, UH, PRECINCT, OR EACH DISTRICT MAYBE, UH, THE CHIEF CAN IDENTIFY A CERTAIN GROUP OF MEN AND SAY, OH, YOU DID GROW UP HERE, OR YOU GREW UP AROUND THE CORNER HERE. AND HAVE THEM BE JUST NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS. BECAUSE, BECAUSE AS, AS MY MAN JUST SAID, WHEN SOMEONE KNOWS THE AREA AND THEY KNOW THE PEOPLE, SOMETIME IT BRINGS A LEVEL OF ANXIETY WAY DOWN WHEN THERE'S A CONVERSATION GOING ON, IT'S NOT AS MUCH TENSION. SO MAY, MAYBE, MAYBE THAT NPO AVENUE MAY BE AN AVENUE THAT, THAT, UH, IT COULD BE CITYWIDE, BECAUSE WE KNOW EVERYBODY'S NOT GONNA GO RUSH BACK INTO THE CITY TO LIVE HERE. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, IT'S NOBODY BUSINESS WHERE YOU LIVE. BUT IF WE HAVE THOSE WHO DO, AND WE HAVE THOSE NPOS, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS, THEY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THEY MAKE THE LITTLE BOY RESPECT THE POLICE AND UNDERSTAND THE POLICE IS JUST A MAN OR WOMAN WHO'S DOING THEIR JOB, AND THEIR JOB IS TO SERVE AND PROTECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, WE'LL CLOSE IT THERE. I DO APPRECIATE ALL THE DISCUSSION, UH, FOR THE REPORT. AGAIN, AS STATED, APPRECIATE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GETTING BACK SO QUICKLY WITH THOSE NUMBERS FOR US. UM, IT TRULY REPRESENTS THE PARTNERSHIP, I FEEL LIKE THAT WE'RE FORMING AND COMMUNICATING AND DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, KEY ISSUES OF CONCERN. UM, WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SECTION. AND MR. I HAVE A PRESENTATION COMING IN. OH, THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION. SO MR. GUERRERO AND MS. PEREZ, GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS. HOW ARE YOU DOING TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TONIGHT TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH YOU THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHTS COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT PLAN, UH, WITHIN, UH, WITH NEW WIND IN OUR SAILS AND, UH, EAGER TO REACH OUR COMMUNITY. UM, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE THIS PLAN WITH YOU TONIGHT. I KNOW THAT OUTREACH PLAYS A, A REAL CRITICAL ROLE IN RAISING AWARENESS, SHARING REPORTS, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS, AND GATHERING COMMUNITY INPUT. AND, UM, THESE EFFORTS, IN FACT, ARE THE ONES THAT ENHANCE, THAT ENHANCE OUR, UM, OUR, OUR TEAM'S TRANSPARENCY AND LEGITIMACY WHILE FOSTERING COALITION BUILDING WITH STAKEHOLDERS. SO OUR PRESENT TONIGHT IS GONNA BE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR OFFICE'S ONGOING WORK TO, UH, CARRY THROUGH A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WILL DEFINE OUTREACH GOALS, METHODS, AND KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS TO MEASURE THE PROGRESS WITHIN A TIMELINE. AND WITH THAT, WE WANT TO BEGIN AGAIN AND JUST KIND OF REITERATE OUR MISSION AND OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND, AND HOW IT RELATES TO OUTREACH. THE [02:45:01] OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT STRIVES TO ENSURE IMPARTIAL REVIEW OF CIVILIAN COMPLAINTS, FOSTERING TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE COMMUNITY. AND WE DO THIS THROUGH SUPPORT AND PROVIDING SUPPORT TO THE POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, WHICH IS YOURSELVES TONIGHT. AND, UH, WE ALSO ACCEPT AND REVIEW COMPLAINTS AND COMMENDATIONS, UH, IN THE NEAR HORIZON. WE ALSO FACILITATE MEDIATION BETWEEN COMPLAINANTS AND OFFICERS, AND ALSO THROUGH OUR DIRECTOR AS A MONITOR, UH, PROVIDE INVESTIGATIONS OF CRITICAL INCIDENTS. AND, UH, WE WANT TO SHARE A BIT MORE IN TERMS OF, UM, OUR ENGAGEMENT AND GOALS. I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, MS. ALMA, OUR SENIOR, UH, OUTREACH SPECIALIST. UH, GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS, UH, THANK YOU WALID. UM, WE DID WORK TOGETHER ON CREATING THIS, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT PLAN, AND A DRAFT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR, UM, BINDERS. UM, AS PART OF OUR GOALS FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT, UH, WE WANT TO RAISE AWARENESS, RAISE AWARENESS OF OUR, UM, OFFICE, AND INFORM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT OUR MISSION. UM, WE WANNA COLLECT INPUT BY GATHERING VALUABLE FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND ALSO STAKEHOLDERS. WE WANNA INVOLVE ALL COMMUNITIES, SO WE WANNA ENGAGE THOSE, UM, COMMUNITIES THAT ARE HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED AND UNDERREPRESENTED, UH, UNDERREPRESENTED. AND, UH, WE WANT TO BUILD TRUST. WE WANT TO FOSTER TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR OFFICE. UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO REACH OUR GOALS, WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A, UM, SOME KEY STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH, UM, AND, AND BE ABLE TO, UH, PROPERLY, UH, DO OUR OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT. SO WE WANNA, UH, DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO LOCAL CHURCH LEADERS, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SUCH AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, UM, GOVERNMENT STAFF AND DEPARTMENTS. ALSO REGIONAL CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT AGENCIES. UM, LIKE IN FORT WORTH, AUSTIN AND HOUSTON, WE WANT TO INCLUDE BUSINESS AND LABOR ORGANIZATIONS AND ASSOCIATIONS ALSO, UH, INCLUDE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS, ALSO NON-GOVERNMENT AGENT, UH, ORGANIZATIONS, OUR NGOS, OUR CBOS, UM, THOSE COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND OUR NONPROFITS, WHICH ARE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS. UM, PART OF OUR STRATEGIES AND METHODS. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS IMAGE, UM, THIS IS, UH, AN IMAGE OF A MAGNET THAT WAS CREATED, UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO, UH, GIVE OUT AT OUR, UH, OUTREACH EVENTS. AND I THINK, I BELIEVE THIS WAS A SUGGESTION BY BOARD MEMBER, UM, MAPLES. UM, AND SO WE HAVE THIS MAGNET. IT HAS OUR, UM, QUOTE ON HERE THAT SAYS, STRENGTHENING POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND ENHANCING ACCOUNTABILITY. IT'S GOT OUR WEBSITE, UM, AND PHONE NUMBER ON THERE. UM, UH, PART OF OUR STRATEGY IS TO NETWORK. WE WANNA CREATE, UM, NETWORKS THAT WE CAN, UH, WORK TOGETHER WITH AND JUST CONTINUE ENGAGING, UM, AND ALSO, UH, FINDING NEW PARTNERS THROUGH NETWORKING. WE ARE WORKING ON MESSAGING AND MARKETING. UH, WE DEFINITELY WANNA REACH ALL, ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE HAVE CREATED MESSAGING AND MARKETING MATERIALS THAT ARE IN, UM, THE TOP SEVEN LANGUAGES THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. UM, WE WANNA DO OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT IN THE 15 DISTRICTS IN THE 14, AND INCLUDING THAT 15TH DISTRICT THAT IS CITY HALL. UM, WE WANNA PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, PART OF OUR METHODS. SO THIS SLIDE IS KIND OF A LOT, BUT PART OF OUR METHODS. UM, IN OUTREACH, I DEFINITELY WANNA FOCUS ON EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATIONS. SO THIS COULD BE A PRESENTATION, TALKING ABOUT OUR OFFICE AND WHAT WE DO, UM, EDUCATING ON OUR BOARD AND THESE BOARD MEETINGS, UM, ENCOURAGING MORE PEOPLE TO, TO, UM, TAKE PART IN THESE MEETINGS. SO, EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATIONS CAN BE HOW TOS, LIKE HOW TO FILE A COMPLAINT, HOW TO FILE A COMMENDATION, WHICH NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU CAN ALSO DO A THANK A COP. UM, SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO EDUCATE ON THAT AND DO IT IN NOT ONLY ENGLISH, BUT ALSO IN SPANISH. [02:50:01] UM, AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATIONS CAN BE EITHER IN PERSON OR CAN BE VIRTUAL, UM, FOR OUR IN-PERSON, UM, SAY LIKE EVENTS WHERE WE'RE TABLING, UM, OUR DIRECTOR HAS, UH, PURCHASED SOME, UH, SHIRTS AND ALSO JACKETS WITH OUR OCPO LOGO. WE WANNA BE VISIBLE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE US. UM, SO THAT'S PART OF OUR, UM, INITIATIVE. ALSO IN OUR IN-PERSON AND VIRTUAL MEETINGS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE A WEBSITE, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON, UM, ENHANCING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THEN SOMETHING THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON IS CREATING AN ENGAGEMENT CALENDAR FOR THAT WEBSITE SO WE CAN DIRECT MORE PEOPLE TO IT, AND THEY CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, IN THEIR PART OF TOWN, AND THEY CAN, UM, AND THEY'LL KNOW WHERE WE ARE SO THAT THEY CAN COME OUT, UM, AND SEE US. UM, SO THAT'S THE ENGAGEMENT CALENDAR. UM, AND THAT WEBSITE SHOULD BE FINALIZED AND GO LIVE SOMETIME LATER THIS MONTH. UM, AND THEN MOVING ON TO SOCIAL MEDIA. UM, I'M EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE OFFICIALLY, UM, HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE. UM, SO I'LL DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO GO, UH, LIKE IT AND FOLLOW IT AND SHARE ALL OF OUR, UM, EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS THAT ARE ON THERE. UM, AND THEN WE ARE WORKING TO UPDATE OUR INSTAGRAM, UH, PAGE. AND THEN WE WILL, UH, ALSO CREATE AN X ACCOUNT. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL UTILIZE SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, ALSO WITH OUR, UM, IN, IN TANDEM WITH OUR, UM, IN-PERSON AND EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATIONS. UM, WE ALL KNOW SOCIAL MEDIA IS, IS A BIG COMPONENT OF JUST EVERYDAY LIFE. THANK YOU, ALMA. THANK YOU, ALMA. AND ALONG WITH THAT, WE ALSO WANNA LAUNCH OUR, UH, EMAIL CAMPAIGNS. ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON AND USING IS OUR CONSTANT CONTACT. AND THIS, UH, PARTICULAR PLATFORM ALLOWS US TO BUILD, UH, SEVERAL EMAIL LISTS. AND THESE LISTS WILL BE, UH, COM COMPOSED OF DIFFERENT CONSTITUENTS, WHICH WOULD BE OUR MEDIA CONTACTS. IT COULD BE, UH, SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES, AND ALSO, UM, UH, JUST DIFFERENT, UM, UH, KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND PARTNERS THAT WE DEVELOP ALONG THE WAY. UH, THE CONSTANT CONTACT IS, UH, SOMETHING REALLY KEY, BECAUSE WE COULD ALSO RELEASE PRESS RELEASES ON THERE. AND, UM, THEY'VE BEEN VERY, I'VE FOUND THEM TO BE VERY, UM, EFFICIENT AND VERY FUNCTIONAL, AND, UH, FORWARDING, UH, IMPORTANT INFORMATION SO THAT THERE'S NO DISINFORMATION OUT IN THE PUBLIC. AND THAT WAY IT COMES STRAIGHT FROM OUR SOURCE. UH, WITH THAT, THAT SAME PLATFORM ALSO LENDS ITSELF TO CREATE NEWSLETTERS. I KNOW SEVERAL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ACTUALLY USE CONSTANT CONTACT TO RELEASE ELECTRONIC, UH, NEWSLETTERS, WHICH WILL, UM, DEPLOY A QUICK INFORMATION TO EVERYBODY THAT'S ON THOSE LISTS. WE CAN SELECT THOSE LISTS, UM, UH, SPECIFICALLY GEOGRAPHICALLY OR DEPENDING HOW WE, UH, DEVELOP OUR, UM, OUR, OUR LIST AS WE BEGIN HITTING ALL THESE COMMUNITIES. ANOTHER ADDITIONAL ELEMENT TO THIS IS MAILERS. YOU PROBABLY MAY ASK YOURSELF MAILERS IN THIS DAY AND AGE. YES, MAILERS ACTUALLY CAN BE USED. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE SEVERAL COMMUNITIES THAT, UH, MAY NOT HAVE AND, AND DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO, UM, TO EMAIL OR ELECTRONIC, UH, ELEMENTS. SO, UH, WE WANNA BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND SEND THESE, UH, SEND, BRING AWARENESS TO OUR OFFICE THROUGH, UH, MAILING SYSTEMS THAT WILL ALSO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR COMPLAINT, UM, PROCESS AND COMMENDATION PROCESS. UH, ONE OF THESE ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE ALSO USING, AND, AND BEFORE I FORGET TO MENTION, IS, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE USE QR CODES NOWADAYS. UH, MAYBE YOU MIGHT NOT BE AWARE, BUT THERE ARE, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A STATIC AND A DYNAMIC QR CODE. SO OUR OFFICE WILL BE USING DYNAMIC QR CODES, WHICH WILL BRING US, UH, INFORMATION OF HITS, AND WILL WE BE ABLE TO GATHER DATA IN TERMS OF WHAT AREAS WE ARE GETTING RESPONSES FROM, AND WHERE THE INFORMATION IS ACTUALLY BEING, UM, ABSORBED. SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, VERY IMPORTANT TO US. I'VE BEEN WORKING RECENTLY WITH OUR TRADITIONAL MEDIA AS WELL. WE, WE'VE BEEN VERY, UM, HAPPY TO HAVE MADE CONNECTIONS WITH FOX AND CPS, IN ADDITION TO, UM, UH, DEVELOPING A LIST OF NEWSPAPERS. UH, I KNOW WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL LIST OF NEWSPAPERS THAT WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ALSO FORWARD SOME OF THIS INFORMATION TO. AND THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT KEY STAKEHOLDERS. ONE OF THE, UH, AREAS THAT I WOULD EVEN, UH, THROW OUT THERE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, FORWARD TO EVERYBODY, IS WE ALSO WANNA FOCUS ON INDEPENDENT, UH, MEDIA CONTACTS. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, UH, AN AREA THAT MANY, UM, FORGET ABOUT. [02:55:01] AND I THINK TO BRING AWARENESS, UH, OF OUR GRASSROOTS, UM, UH, INFORMATION WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO DO THAT, INCLUDING, UM, UH, INFLUENCERS. AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY, THEY HAVE TO BE VERY KEY INDIVIDUALS THAT WE MAKE PARTNERSHIPS WITH. BUT ANY OF THESE ELEMENTS, UH, I KNOW DISTRICT FOUR, UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS AWARE OF SOME, UM, INDEPENDENT, UH, MEDIA CONTACTS. WE'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME, SOME OF THOSE. OUR DIRECTOR HAS, UM, UH, PROVIDED SOME, SOME EXAMPLES OF VIDEOS. UH, I, I BELIEVE VIDEOS ARE VERY, UM, KEY AND VERY POWERFUL TO, UM, BRING INFORMATION TO OUR COMMUNITY. UH, THEY'RE, THEY NOT ONLY DEMONSTRATE, UM, HOW PEOPLE CAN DO COMPLAINTS, BUT, AND, AND, AND ALSO, UM, COMMENDATIONS. BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO SHOW OUR DIVERSITY, UM, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THOSE VIDEOS WILL INCLUDE THAT, UM, UH, THOSE FACETS, UH, OF OUR COMMUNITY, SO THAT WE REFLECT OUR COMMUNITY AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH THEM. AND, UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN OVER AS WELL TO ALMA AS SHE, UH, MENTIONS OUR COLLATERAL MATERIALS. OKAY, YES. SO, UM, OUR PRINT COLLATERAL MATERIALS, UM, HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE RECREATION CENTERS AND ALSO THE LIBRARIES. UM, AND I, I DO PLAN ON JUST STAYING IN CONTACT WITH THE REC CENTERS AND LIBRARIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE, UM, THEY ALWAYS HAVE OUR MATERIALS, UM, WHICH INCLUDE OUR FLYERS, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. UM, AND I'VE ALSO DROPPED OFF THE ACTUAL COMPLAINT FORM, UM, AND THE COMMENDATION FORM SO THAT THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE TO, UM, THE COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, FREQUENTS THOSE CENTERS. UM, AND I AM, UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, DIGITAL MATERIALS THAT WE CREATED SO THAT WE CAN SHARE ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. UM, AND I DID SEND THAT OUT TO ALL THE, UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THAT HOPEFULLY THEY CAN PUBLISH IN THEIR NEWSLETTERS. UM, AND SO I HAVEN'T SEEN IT ON THERE YET. SO IF YOU GUYS, UM, CAN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GET THAT WORD OUT TO SEE IF MAYBE THEY WOULDN'T MIND ADDING THAT TO THEIR NEWSLETTERS. AGAIN, JUST TO SPREAD THE WORD TO ALL THE CONSTITUENTS THAT, UM, MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF OUR OFFICE AND, AND WHAT WE DO. UM, AND THEN, UH, OUTREACH TO OUR PARTNERS AND STAKEHOLDERS. UM, WE WILL FOCUS AGAIN ON THE 15 DISTRICTS, WHICH IS WHY WE INCLUDED THE, THE MAP. UM, AND I, UH, WE'RE KEEPING TRACK OF THE EVENTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN, AND WE'RE KEEPING TRACK OF WHAT DISTRICTS THEY'RE A PART OF, SO THAT WE CAN, UM, ENSURE THAT WE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT TO EV TO EVERY DISTRICT BECAUSE DALLAS IS, IS A BIG CITY. SO, UM, SO WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO ALL THE DISTRICTS, AS YOU KNOW, WITH, AS YOU KNOW, WITH LAUNCHING A PLAN, IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT WE PROVIDE AN ASSESSMENT OF THE OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES. AND PART OF THIS INVOLVES, UH, TRACKING OUR EVENTS. UH, I KNOW WE'VE MENTIONED A CALENDAR THAT WILL BE, UH, SET FORTH IN OUR WEBSITE, AND THAT'S GONNA BE A VERY KEY ELEMENT TO THAT. BUT IN ADDITION, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UH, MONITORING EVENT PARTICIPATION THROUGH, UM, SURVEYS AND, AND OTHER ELEMENTS WE'LL BE DOING IS TO GAUGE THE OUTREACH EFFECTIVENESS. UH, WE WANT TO COLLECT THE FEEDBACK, AGAIN, THROUGH THE SURVEYS AND FOCUS GROUPS, UH, THROUGH PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, TO GATHER FEEDBACK. AND WE'RE DOING THIS TO ALSO JUST GET A PULSE OF DALLAS AND, AND UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT AND WHERE IT'S AT AT THIS TIME. UH, THE ENGAGEMENT CALENDAR, AS I MENTIONED, IS, UH, VERY KEY. AND TO THAT WAY WE COULD ALSO LOG OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND ALSO GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM AS WELL. AND FINALLY, TO MEASURE THE IMPACT, UM, THROUGH ANALYSIS OF REPORTS, UH, FOR OFFICER MISCONDUCT, COMMENDATIONS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. UM, THIS INFORMATION ALSO HAS GEOGRAPHICAL DATA THAT WOULD BE TIED TO IT, GIVING US A GLIMPSE OF THE AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY. SO WITH THE DASHBOARD THAT WILL BE LAUNCHING SOON, I KNOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS SOME OF THAT DATA AND IT'LL GIVE US HITS, WHICH DISTRICTS, UM, THESE COMPLAINTS ARE COMING, WHICH DISTRICTS, THE COMMENDATIONS WILL BE COMING, AND IT'LL ALSO BE VERY KEY FOR US TO USE. SO THAT WAY, UH, WE CAN FURTHER OUR, UH, OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT, UH, CAMPAIGNS. WITH THAT, OUR TIMELINE WILL BE DIVIDED INTO THREE PHASES. WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN, AS WE'VE MENTIONED, PHASE ONE, WHICH INVOLVES THE PRODUCTION, UH, TO CREATE OUTREACH MATERIALS AND IDENTIFY COMMUNITY PARTNERS. UM, ALMA HAS HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE CREATED, THEY'VE BEEN CREATED EVEN PRIOR TO US, UH, ARRIVING HERE ON SCENE. ONE OF THOSE IS THIS BROCHURE THAT YOU SEE TO THE RIGHT, WHICH ALSO OUTLINES [03:00:01] THE COMPLAINT OUTCOMES. AND IT PROVIDES EDUCATION TO OUR PUBLIC IN REGARDS TO WHAT ARE THE, UM, OUTCOMES THAT ARE POSSIBLE, UH, WITHIN OUR PROCESS. OUR SECOND PHASE INCLUDES, UM, EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH, UH, TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT. AND IT'S, UM, IN MORE DETAIL AND COMPLAINT PROCESS. WHAT WE MEAN BY THIS IS, UH, LIKE WORKSHOPS THAT ARE MORE HANDS-ON TO SHOW PEOPLE WHERE THEY CAN ACCESS, UH, THE COMPLAINT FORMS, HOW TO FILL OUT THE COMPLAINT FORMS. SO IT'S A MORE, UM, ON THE GROUND, UH, GRASSROOTS, UM, UH, PROCESS. AND FINALLY, PUBLIC MEETINGS, UH, HOSTING PUBLIC MEETINGS TO GATHER FEEDBACK AND FOSTER DIALOGUE. SOME OF THESE MEETINGS, UH, WILL BE VIRTUAL TOWN HALLS, AND THERE'LL BE ALSO IN PUBLIC MEETINGS SO THAT WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND BRING MORE AWARENESS TO THE BOARD. AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE MORE, UH, UH, EVEN HIGHER ATTENDANCE AS MORE AWARENESS BEGINS TO DEVELOP. WITH THAT, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER, UH, TO THE BOARD, UH, FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. AND AGAIN, AS ALMA HIGHLIGHTED, THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, THE REPORT, IT'S IN ITS DRAFT FORM, SO WE WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY FEEDBACK AFTER YOU, UH, READ THROUGH THAT. THANK YOU BOARD. I THINK WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER KING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. REALLY GOOD INFO. AND AGAIN, THIS IS MY JAM, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT DALLAS WATER UTILITY BILLS, YOU CAN HAVE INSERTS BE PUT INTO THAT. SO FOR PART OF YOUR MAILERS, UM, ANYONE THAT STILL RECEIVES A WATER BILL IN THE MAIL, I, THERE'S A PRO, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS, BUT I THINK, UM, YOU GUYS, AS CITY EMPLOYEES CAN PUT INFORMATION IN THERE. SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FREE PLACE, FREE, UM, SAMPLE AGENDAS FOR PUBLIC MEETINGS. I'D BE REALLY INTERESTED TO KNOW, LIKE, HOW WOULD YOU WANT US TO TALK ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW, ARE WE LOOKING AT ONE HOUR START TO FINISH, INCLUDING Q AND A? UM, I ASSUME YOU'RE OPEN TO ALL KINDS OF THINGS. I KNOW YOU SAID DIGITALLY, BUT ALSO IN PERSON. UM, AND THEN WHAT CAN WE BE DOING AS, AS INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS? GIVE US AN ACTION ITEM SO WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU VERSUS, OH, THIS IS NICE TO DO. SO LIKE, I'M ALREADY MEETING WITH SOMEONE WHO'S A BIG LEADER IN HAMILTON PARK. 'CAUSE THAT'S A BIG CONSTITUENCY IN D 10. UM, SHE'S NOT THE ONLY VOICE IN HAMILTON PARK, BUT SHE'S A GOOD CONNECTOR. SO I'M ALSO GONNA MEET WITH OUR, UH, PI DIRECTOR. SHE DIRECTS TWO PIDS, AND SHE WORKS WITH ALL OF OUR, UM, APARTMENT COMMUNITIES. SO I BET VICKI COULD HELP US GET, UM, A MEETING OR MAYBE IT WOULD BE WITH APARTMENT MANAGERS. UM, SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS I'M DOING, AND I CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU, TO OUR CHAIRMAN, TO THE DIRECTOR. I DON'T KNOW. UM, GIVE US SOME ACTION ITEMS, PLEASE. ABSOLUTELY. UM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. ALMA. AND I HAVE A FEW ITEMS AS WELL THAT I COULD SHARE WITH YOU. YES. SO WE DID, UM, I BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF, UM, THE DRAFT IS THAT WE DID SPECIFY THAT WE COULD DO A PRESENTATION AND IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY JUST DOING AN INTRO, A BACKGROUND OF OUR OFFICE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR ROLE, WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE SUPPORT THE BOARD. UM, SO THAT CAN BE TAILORED TO DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE DOING A WORKSHOP IN SAY, A, A COMMUNITY CENTER LIKE, UH, WEST DALLAS MULTIPURPOSE CENTER, WHICH THEY HOLD, AND A LOT OF THESE CENTERS HOLD, UM, MEETINGS FOR, UM, SAY SENIOR CITIZENS OR MEETINGS FOR PARENTS, ADULTS, AND FAMILIES. AND IF THEY COULD TIE US IN, UM, THEN WE CAN SET ASIDE 30 MINUTES TO TALK. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE CAN STAY AND SPEAK ONE-ON-ONE TO, UM, I KNOW THERE'S SOME COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS IN PUBLIC. AND SO, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY JUST, UM, BEING AT THE EVENT FROM START TO FINISH, UM, SO THAT WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY OF THOSE THAT WANNA COME AND, AND SPEAK ONE-ON-ONE. UM, BUT IT CAN LOOK MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. LIKE, WE'LL, WE'LL ADAPT. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S REALLY COOL. MM-HMM . AND ALSO YOU WOULD COME, I KNOW WE DO A COMMUNITY EVENT IN D 10 AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR THROUGH THE PI. THAT IS, THAT IS THE GOAL, IS TO BRING CITY SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I WOULD WANT US TO HAVE A TABLE THERE, FOR EXAMPLE. AND I WOULD COME AND I WOULD LOVE FOR SOMEONE FROM THE OFFICE TO COME WITH, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION IN THE VARIOUS LANGUAGES. UM, AND THEN WE CAN TALK TO ANYONE THAT COMES UP TO US. ABSOLUTELY. YES. SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA RESPOND TO JENNY AND SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'VE BEEN REACHING OUT AND HAVING AMMA REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE, THE BOARD MEMBERS. SHE CAN DEFINITELY CONNECT WITH YOU TO MEET WITH YOU ONE-ON-ONE SO SHE CAN GET THOSE CONNECTIONS AND SCHEDULE THOSE MEETINGS, [03:05:01] UM, IN YOUR DISTRICT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY TO ME, UM, RECENTLY WAS THAT BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD CONSIDER PARTNER WITH THE OFFICE TO HAVE QUARTERLY MEETINGS, UM, ESPECIALLY INCLUDING THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO THAT WE'RE AWARE OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND ISSUES THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE DISTRICT. SO THERE'S, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SHARED, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT. I KNOW OUR BOARD MEETING, SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAY, HEY, CAN YOU ROTATE IT? CAN YOU HAVE THEM IN THE COMMUNITY? UM, IT'S DEFINITELY A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE AS WELL, BUT I THINK AS FAR AS THE INTERIM, WE CAN DEFINITELY CONSIDER DOING SOME QUARTERLY MEETINGS IN THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. AND THEN ANOTHER THING I WANT TO, UM, THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T MENTION ABOUT THE VIDEO, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE HAVING THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THOSE VIDEOS. ONE OF THE VIDEOS I RECENTLY SAW, MINNEAPOLIS, UM, HAD A VIDEO, UM, OF THEIR OVERSIGHT BODY AND THEIR BOARD, UM, TALKING ABOUT WHY THEY DO THIS WORK AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THEM AND BEING IN THE COMMUNITY. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE ONE HIGH DIVERSE, ESPECIALLY OUR BOARD RIGHT, IS, AND JUST SEEING WHO'S REPRESENTING YOU IN THOSE DISTRICTS. AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO CONNECT AND ALSO SHOW THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE. SO JUST SOME IDEAS WHAT WE CAN DO. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, SO NUMBER ONE, I KNOW YOU ASKED FOR, FOR, FOR ITEMS OF HOMEWORK, RIGHT? FOR THE BOARD. SO NUMBER ONE IS TONIGHT, WHEN YOU GO HOME, GO TO THAT FACEBOOK PAGE AND HIT LIKE, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRST LINE ITEM. AND MAKE SURE YOU SHARE IT WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. UM, NUMBER TWO IS, I'M, I'M THINKING IF YOU CAN FIND AND CONNECT US WITH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GREATEST, UH, PLATFORMS OF INFLUENCE OR IN, IN, WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT, UM, ONE OF THOSE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN, IN THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS LIKE STATE, REGIONAL, LOCAL COMMUNITY, K THROUGH 12, HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS, UM, LOCAL CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, COMMUNITY FOUNDATIONS, ARTS AND CULTURAL GROUPS, FAITH-BASED INSTITUTIONS, LOCAL, STATE, GOVERNMENT. IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A DEEP CONNECTION WITH ANY OF THESE, UM, BE SURE TO CONNECT US WITH THEM SO THAT WE CAN FURTHER, UM, OUR AWARENESS. AND THEN, UH, FINALLY LAST, IF YOU HAVE AN, UH, IF YOU KNOW OF AN EVENT THAT TAKES PLACE IN, IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT YOU KNOW IS, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU GUYS ALWAYS HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK, AND THAT WE'LL BRING, UM, A GREAT, UM, EXPOSURE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO AND, AND SHARE OUR, OUR INFORMATION, UH, IF YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH US, UM, UH, IT WOULD BE IDEAL AS WELL THAT, UM, AS A BOARD, DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBERS WOULD SUPPORT THE DIFFERENT, UM, YOU KNOW, HUGE EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE. I THINK IT'LL SHOW A GREAT AMOUNT OF, UM, OF UNITY WITHIN US AND ALSO OF, UM, UH, AWARENESS OF WHO, WHO, WHO, THE FACES, THE COMMUNITY WILL GET TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OUT FOR THEM AND THAT YOU'RE HERE FOR THEM. SO I THINK THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE WONDERFUL AS PART OF THE, UH, THIS OUTREACH STRATEGY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO LAUNCH. THANK YOU. BOARD, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES. UM, I WANNA SAY, UH, GOOD JOB. GOOD JOB GETTING, UH, GETTING, UH, THESE THINGS TOGETHER. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR FOR, UH, FOR, UH, LEADING THIS EFFORT. UM, SO THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US CAN DO IN OUR, IN OUR DISTRICT. UM, FOR THE MOST PART, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT COMMUNITY EVENTS AND, AND FESTIVALS AND CARNIVALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ALL OF US TAKE PART IN AT THE SCHOOLS OR IN OUR COMMUNITIES. BUT ALL COMMUNITIES IN ALL DISTRICTS HAVE CRIME WATCH MEETINGS. WE HAVE A MONTHLY CRIME WATCH MEETING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. WHO COMES OUT? FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT. EVERY DISTRICT HAS IT. I, I, I SUGGEST YOU START TO ATTEND YOUR CRIME WATCH MEETINGS IN YOUR DISTRICT. THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE, RIGHT THERE AT THE CRIME WATCH MEETING. YOU CAN GIVE AWAY SWAG, YOU CAN TALK TO THE COMMUNITY, AND YOU CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE HERE AND PEOPLE WILL TELL OTHER PEOPLE. UM, THIS IS FEBRUARY. SO REGISTRATION FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUTING COMMUNITIES IS STARTING RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN GO TO THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WEBSITE AND REGISTER YOUR COMMUNITY. UH, I THINK IT STARTED ON FEBRUARY 1ST. UM, [03:10:03] I USUALLY MAKE SURE THAT, UH, SOME OF THE SCHOOLS THAT WHEN I GET ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN CAREER DAY, I TRY TO, UH, UH, INVITE OUR LOCAL NPOS. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY I, I, YOU'LL HEAR ME TALK ABOUT NPOS ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE AN, THEY'RE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN THE M THICKET, OUR, OUR, OUR OPERATION BEAUTIFICATION, NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP, WE HAVE OUR NPOS THERE, OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, WE HAVE OUR NPOS THERE. WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC, AND WE MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC CAN BE OUR MOUTHPIECE. I CAN ONLY BE IN ONE PLACE AT ONE TIME. I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T MASTERED THE ART OF BEING IN SEVERAL PLACES AT ONE TIME. I TRIED IT BEFORE, BUT IT'S A HARD TASK. UM, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, DALLAS IS A BIG CITY, BUT THERE'S A LOT HAPPENING IN DALLAS. JUST, JUST IN THE NEXT SIX WEEKS, WE'LL HAVE THE OLD CLIFF MARDI GRAS PARADE. WE'LL HAVE THE ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST PARADE IN NORTH TEXAS. AND THEN, UM, ONE OTHER EVENT IS SLIPPING MY MIND, BUT, UH, UM, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. AND A, AS A BOARD, LET'S PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER. BECAUSE IF YOU GUYS COME BACK AT, OR PUT, SEND OUT AN EMAIL AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE HAVING THIS EVENT IN MY DISTRICT AND I WANT TO INVITE THE BOARD MEMBERS, LET'S DO THAT. BECAUSE ONE THING THAT I'VE NOTICED AS I MOVE AROUND THIS CITY, AND IT'S REALLY SAD TO SAY THAT USUALLY MORE TIMES THAN NOT, YOU ONLY SEE THE SOUTHERN COUNCIL, PEOPLE AT THE SOUTHERN EVENTS AND THE NORTHERN COUNCIL PEOPLE AT THE NORTH, AT THE NORTHERN EVENTS, THEY DON'T INTERMINGLE. LET'S NOT BE LIKE THEM. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S WHAT WE DO. WE'RE THE MOUTHPIECE OF THE, OF THE CITY. WE'RE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS. WE WERE CHOSEN TO DO THIS, AND WE ACCEPTED, ACCEPTED THE JOB TO DO IT. SO IF YOU GOT SOMETHING GOING ON, MAN, LET, LET, LET ONE ANOTHER KNOW, AND LET'S, LET'S, UH, SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER. SO, AND IF YOU HAVE, YOU GUYS HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON, SHOOT US AN EMAIL AND WE CAN MAKE SURE WE COME OUT AND SUPPORT AND SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS THAT YOU'RE HAVING DIRECTOR. SHOOT US AN EMAIL. LET US KNOW THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING, LOVE TO COME OUT AND, AND JUST HANG OUT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AFTERWARDS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, UH, GRAB A BEER OR A TACO OR A BURGER OR WHATEVER. BUT AGAIN, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER AND GET THE WORD OUT ALL AT THE SAME TIME. AND ONE OF THE DISTRICTS THAT FALLS IN DISTRICT TWO, WELL ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT FALLS IN DISTRICT TWO IS, IS DEEP EL. AND I WILL BE HAVING A COUNS, I'LL BE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH MY COUNCILMAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT DEEP ELEMENT IS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ON THESE REPORTS THAT I LOOK AT, DISTRICT TWO SHOWS UP A LOT AND I, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THE DISTRICT TWO SHOWS UP AS MUCH AS IT DOES, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS IF THE DATE IS RIGHT. SO YEAH, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S DO THAT. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO WORKING WITH YOU. UH, ANY WAY YOU NEED ME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU GUYS FOR A VERY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT UP. SORRY, LEMME SEE I LOST MY PLACE. THANK YOU SIR. UH, WE SKIPPED OVER. WE DID THAT ALREADY. ALRIGHT, SO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, UH, ITEM NINE, EXCUSE ME. COMMUNITY COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD REPORTS AND BRIEFINGS. UH, FIRST OFF, AS A CHAIRMAN REPORT, WE DON'T HAVE A REPORT, BUT WE DO WANT TO, UH, TAKE A VOTE ON RESCHEDULING OUR MARCH CPOB MONTHLY MEETING. AND WE'RE, HOLD ON, LET ME CHECK MY CALENDAR HERE. CAN YOU REMIND US AGAIN WHY WE'RE DOING THAT SPRING BREAK? SPRING BREAK FOR WHO? SO IT'S OUR SPRING BREAK. SPRING BREAK FOR WHO? I DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN. I'M NOT IN COLLEGE. WHO? WHO'S SPRING BREAKING? DALLAS. ISD. REALLY? PAUL QUEEN COLLEGE. I PAY TAXES, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I'M ENGAGED IN DISD. AND SOME PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING. THEY'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT THEY'RE TRAVELING. UM, SO WE WERE SCHEDULED TO MEET ON MARCH 11TH. SORRY. BOARD CHAIRMAN. DID YOU WANNA, OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE DIALING IN. UM, OUR SECOND TUESDAY IS MARCH 11TH. UM, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE MOVE THAT TO MARCH 18TH. MARCH 18TH. [03:15:01] AND SO WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE, GET A MOTION TO MOVE OUR MARCH 11TH MEETING TO MOTION TO MOVE MARCH 18. UM, TIM JACKSON, DISTRICT SEVEN MARK. MOTION TO MOVE. UM, MARCH 11TH MEETING TO MARCH 18TH. MOTION SECOND. PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE'RE GONNA DO A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. OUR MARCH MEETING WILL BE ON, UH, MARCH 18TH. NEXT UP IS OUR CPOB STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS. UH, FIRST OFF IS OUR POLICY POLICY COMMITTEE AND I THINK, UH, POLICY, UH, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS HAD TO, UH, LEAVE AND, UH, POLICY ANALYST, UH, SIERRA IS GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE FINDINGS OR REPORT OUT FOR THE POLICY MAKE. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, WE'VE JUST BEEN GOING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AS YOU KNOW 'CAUSE YOU'RE A PART OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE. WE'VE JUST BEEN GOING THROUGH THE ORDINANCE SECTION BY SECTION AND MAKING SOME REVISIONS. I BELIEVE CHANGA HAS ALSO MAPPED OUT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS RECOMME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE. AND SO I BELIEVE THE DIRECTOR CAN GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE MOU REQUEST FOR THE TEXAS A M LAW STUDENTS THAT WERE GONNA BE WORKING WITH US. I BELIEVE I'VE GAVE AN UPDATE. UM, IT'S STILL UNDER REVIEW. UM, ALSO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DID, UM, OFFER, UM, TO PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE IF WE NEEDED ADDITIONAL HELP AND WITH THAT RESEARCH OR SOME, AN ATTORNEY TO ASSIST WITH THE ORDINANCE REVIEW. THANK YOU. AND I CAN SAY SITTING ON THAT COMMITTEE, UH, WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS IN RECONCILING A LOT OF PREVIOUS SUGGESTIONS WITH UH, EX UM, NEW SUGGESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE POLICY COMMITTEE? ALRIGHT, IF NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE RULES. COMMITTEE BOARD MEMBER, UH, GRINNER ALLEN WITH, SHE LEFT. SHE STEPPED OUT. SHE STEPPED OUT. WE WILL SKIP, UH, RULES AND GO TO BOARD TRAINING. DR. GILBERT SMITH HAVE NO UPDATE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BOARD MEMBER MAPLES, ANYTHING TO ADD? SO, SINCE THE, I DON'T KNOW IF THE LAST MEETING, I MEAN MY DAYS ARE RUNNING TOGETHER. DID, DID WE DO THE MLK BEFORE OR AFTER THE LAST MEETING THERE? IT WAS AFTER. OKAY. SO, UH, SEVERAL OF US, DR. CHAIRMAN, PARTICIPATED IN THE, UH, M-L-P-M-L-K DAY PARADE. UM, UH, I ALSO PARTICIPATED IN EVERYTHING GOING ON THAT WEEK, AND I TRIED TO GIVE AWAY SOME SWAG AND, AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WE ARE HERE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING. UM, WE WANT TO DO IT ON A LARGER SCALE. AND AS I JUST SAID A SECOND AGO, LET'S MAKE SURE WE SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER. IF YOU'RE HAVING SOMETHING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, LET US KNOW. OR IN YOUR, IN YOUR COUNCIL DISTRICT, OR IF YOU WANNA JUST INVITE US TO YOUR CRIME WASH, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES. UM, WITH THAT, JUST LIKE TO GO OVER ANNOUNCEMENTS AND WE'LL COME BACK TO RULES IF THERE'S A REPORT. UM, I'M GONNA FOR UPDATE UPCOMING EVENTS. OH, OKAY. PALM IS GONNA DO OUR UPCOMING EVENTS ANNOUNCEMENTS, UPCOMING EVENTS ANNOUNCEMENTS, UH, FOR UPCOMING EVENTS. UM, WE HAVE, UH, PARTNERED UP WITH, UH, DALLAS POLICE, UH, UNIDOS, UH, TO, UM, UH, GO ALONG WITH THEM ON LISTENING SESSIONS THAT THEY HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THIS WEEK AND NEXT WEEK. THEY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, ARE GOING, UH, TO HAVE LISTENING SESSIONS THROUGHOUT THE 14 DISTRICTS. UM, SO THIS IS FOCUSING ON, UM, IMMIGRATION, UM, AND DEPORTATION AND JUST EASING THE FEARS OF THE COMMUNITY, JUST BEING THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND, UM, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US SOME TIME TO ALSO TALK ABOUT OUR OFFICE AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT, UM, ANYONE THAT FEELS THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, HAVE A, A COMPLAINT, UM, TO FILE. UM, SO WE HAVE THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS SATURDAY WE'RE DOING, UH, PARTICIPATING MLK COMMUNITY EVENT, [03:20:01] UM, AT ONE OF THE RECREATION CENTERS. I HAVE TWO SCHEDULED. SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL ADDRESSES AND LOCATIONS WITH ME, BUT ONE OF 'EM IS THIS SATURDAY, AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER ONE NEXT SATURDAY. UM, AND THEN I'VE ALSO PARTNERED WITH CARDBOARD PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD OF THAT NONPROFIT. UM, BUT THEY ARE HAVING A GRADUATION AT THE VETERANS CENTER. AND SO YOU, WHAT THEY WANT IS JUST, YOU KNOW, TO MENTION THE OFFICE AT THEIR GRADUATIONS. THEY, UM, THEY HAVE SPACE FOR COMMUNITY, UM, ORGANIZATIONS TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT TOPICS JUST TO INFORM THE GRADUATES OF WHAT, UM, IS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM THAT THEY MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT. SO I HAVE ALSO, I HAVE ALSO SCHEDULED THAT, UM, THAT'S FOR NEXT WEEK. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AND I DEFINITELY AM GONNA KEEP TRACK AND KEEP A LIST OF THAT. AND, UM, I CAN SEND IT BY EMAIL OR WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET IT OUT TO EVERYONE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? IF NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON. UH, JUST MAKE NOTE OF THE UPCOMING CPOB UH, MEETINGS IN SUBSECTION B WITH THE, UH, CORRECTION OR THE UPDATE FOR THE MARCH 11TH MEETING IS NOW MARCH 18TH. UM, AT THIS TIME, , YOU WILL TABLE THE RULES COMMITTEE REPORT OUT. OH, OKAY. UM, AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, OPEN FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NONE. THANK YOU. UH, FINAL, ANY FINAL THOUGHTS? BOARD MEMBERS? YEAH, JONATHAN MAPLES. UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE MONTHLY ARREST RECORD, AND AS, AS ALWAYS, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. HOWEVER, UM, I AM OPTIMISTIC AND THANKFUL THAT, UH, ANOTHER GROUP WILL BE PUTTING EYES ON THIS TO TRY TO SEE, SEE IF THESE NUMBERS REALLY, REALLY PAN OUT. LET ME JUST USE THAT WORD. UM, MAJOR, UH, BECAUSE IT, IT STILL IS DISTURBING THE, THE, UH, AMOUNT OF ARRESTS AND THE DISPARAGING DISPARAGES BETWEEN JUST WHERE THOSE NUMBERS ARE. SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE GET ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON IT. IT MAY SAY THE SAME THING, WHICH MEANS WE MAY HAVE TO DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER. BUT I ALSO HAVE, I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION HERE AS I'M GOING TO GET WITH, UH, UH, MR. GRAM, BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORHOOD BORDERS DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT SIX, AND WHEN I LOOK AT, AT SOME OF THE OFFENSES THAT HAPPENED IN, IN DISTRICT SIX, LIKE THE, THE HIGH NUMBER OF NARCOTICS, UH, ARREST, AND THEN I LOOK AT PROSTITUTION AND PURCHASING PROSTITUTION. THEY ALL HAPPEN IN DISTRICT SIX. AND I KNOW THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S THE PART OF DISTRICT SITS THAT SITS DOWN ON HARRY HINES AND ROYAL LANE AND THAT AREA OVER THERE. BUT, UM, MAYBE, UM, MR. GRAM AND I CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR COUNCIL PERSON. I, I JUST, IT'S JUST WHEN I LOOK AT THESE THINGS, IT JUST, SOME THINGS JUST JUMP OUT AT ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY FALL INTO A DISTRICT THAT I LIVE IN OR THINGS THAT CONCERN ME IN MY DISTRICT AND WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE WITH THE ARREST RECORD. SO, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR OFFER. THANK YOU FOR IDENTIFYING SOMEONE WHO COULD PUT SOME EYES ON THESE NUMBERS AND MAYBE JUST LET US KNOW. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? BOARD MEMBERS? IF NOT, AGAIN, I WOULD JUST, OH, DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT. DAVID, BOARD MEMBER KITNER. SORRY. 13. I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. , UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. WE HAVE A SECOND. WELL, I, I HAD SOME COMMENTARY THAT, BUT I'M GONNA PUT IT INTO THIS, UH, UH, UH, DEBATE SECTION HERE OF THE ADJOURNMENT. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF THOSE WHO CAME OUT. WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SITTING THROUGH THE MEETING. UM, ALSO THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SITTING THROUGH THE ENTIRE MEETING. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND PARTICIPATING AND BOARD MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND PARTICIPATING AS WELL. WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR ADJOURNMENT. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. [03:25:02] I NEED A MUL AGAIN FOR SPRING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.