Feb 18, 2025 Transportation and Infrastructure

[Transportation and Infrastructure on February 18, 2025.]

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AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING THE JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING TOGETHER TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE TO ORDER.

THERE A QUORUM IS PRESENT, AND I THINK I NEED TO PAUSE AND ALLOW MR. SLAGEL TO CALL IT TO ORDER AS WELL. YES, SIR.

AND I WOULD CALL THE DART BOARD PORTION OF THIS FEBRUARY 18TH MEETING TO ORDER.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? SECOND. MOTION IS MADE PROPERLY AND SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS AGENDA, I HAVE A STATEMENT I NEED TO READ.

ITEM S WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. THE DALLAS REGIONAL POLICE TRAINING ACADEMY IS A PRIORITY PROJECT IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, THE CITY AND OUR PARTNERS RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO PLAN FOR A FACILITY THAT MEETS 21ST CENTURY POLICE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS.

AFTER THE PROGRAMING PHASE IS COMPLETE, STAFF WILL PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON RECOMMENDATIONS AND NEXT STEPS.

ONGOING UPDATES ON DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AT A LATER DATE.

ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO ITEM B AND THE FIRST ITEM THERE IS THE DART UPDATE.

SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE A... YES WE DO. AND OUR CEO NADINE LEE IS GOING TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION.

WELL WELCOME NADINE. WE ARE IN YOUR HANDS.

THERE WE GO. IS THAT BETTER? I KNOW I HAVE A MASK ON, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME STILL.

SO LET'S SEE. IS THERE A WAY FOR ME TO ADVANCE THE SLIDES, OR DO I JUST HAVE TO SAY, OR DO I HAVE TO JUST ASK YOU CAN JUST TELL THEM TO ADVANCE AND THEY'LL CATCH A RHYTHM AS WELL. OKAY.

SUPER. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. WE WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE TRNI COMMITTEE ON ALL THINGS DART.

IT'S BEEN A BIT SINCE WE WERE HERE LAST. AND SO IF YOU COULD ADVANCE THE SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WE WANTED TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT STATE OF DART IN DALLAS.

THERE WERE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WHEN WE WERE PREPARING FOR THIS PRESENTATION ABOUT THE D2 SUBWAY PROJECT AS WELL AS THE STREETCAR.

AND THEN WE WANT TO GO THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC GOALS, WHICH WE'VE TOUCHED ON IN THE PAST, BUT NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN OFFICIAL OFFICIAL APPROVED STRATEGIC PLAN. AND SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. AND THEN AT THE END OF THIS GARY SLAGEL WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE GOVERNANCE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW THIS, BUT IT'S WORTH REMINDING EVERYONE THAT DART DOES SERVE DALLAS WITH A COMBINATION OF RAIL, STREETCAR, BUS, AND ON DEMAND SERVICE.

WE ALSO SERVE THE ENTIRE SERVICE AREA WITH ADA PARATRANSIT SERVICE, AND THERE'S A WHOLE SEQUENCE OF SLIDES HERE IN THE NEXT FEW THIS NEXT FEW SLIDES THAT ACTUALLY SHOW THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF OUR DART NETWORK.

STARTING WITH THIS ONE, WHICH IS A MAP OF OUR LIGHT RAIL AND COMMUTER RAIL, YOU CAN SEE THE TRE TRINITY RAILWAY EXPRESS HEADING WEST OUT OF THE SERVICE AREA.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE OUR FOUR LIGHT RAIL LINES.

AND SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF START BY SHOWING THIS SLIDE.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE STREETCAR ADDS TO OUR RAIL NETWORK.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THEN WE HAVE LET'S SEE.

NEXT SLIDE. THERE YOU GO. THE FREQUENT BUS NETWORK IS ABOUT 22 ROUTES THAT OFFER 10 TO 15 MINUTE PEAK PERIOD SERVICE AND 10 TO 20 MINUTE MIDDAY SERVICE. THESE ARE OUR HIGH RIDERSHIP CORRIDORS, AND THESE SERVICES RUN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, WITH THE SPAN OF SERVICE RUNNING FROM 4 A.M. TO 1 A.M.

SO 23 HOURS OF OPERATING SERVICE TO PROVIDE SERVICE THAT ADDRESSES SHIFT WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. HERE WE ADD ON THE LOCAL BUS ROUTES THAT HAVE A 15 MINUTE PEAK SERVICE AND 30 MINUTE MIDDAY SERVICE.

YOU CAN SEE WE'RE STARTING TO FILL IN SOME OF THE SPACES BETWEEN THE CORRIDORS AND THE ROUTES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN LOCAL COVERAGE SERVICE REALLY FILLS IN THE REMAINDER OF THE SERVICE AREA.

AND I'LL NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT JUST SERVICE WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS GETTING PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO POINT B WITHIN THE CITY BOUNDARIES, BUT ALSO PROVIDING ACCESS TO JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF DALLAS.

AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF OUR REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY.

CONNECTIVITY FROM THE WEST AND SOUTHERN DALLAS TO IRVING, RICHARDSON, PLANO, GARLAND, ALL OF THE PLACES THAT BORDER DALLAS, WHERE THERE ARE A WEALTH OF JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PEOPLE WITHIN OUR SERVICE AREA.

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NEXT SLIDE. AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SHUTTLES THAT PROVIDE FIRST LAST MILE CONNECTIONS TO UNIVERSITIES AND BUSINESSES AROUND OUR SERVICE AREA.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS IS REALLY THE CRUX OF EVERYTHING RIGHT HERE GO LINK MICRO-TRANSIT SERVICE THAT FILLS IN EVERYTHING AND PROVIDES ON DEMAND SERVICE VIA THE GO PASS APP OR BY PHONE. AND JUST OVER 50% OF DART'S GO LINK RIDERSHIP HAPPENS TO BE WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS SO GO LINK IS A REALLY BIG PRODUCER OF RIDERSHIP FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW, WITH ALL THIS SERVICE IN THE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, WHAT IS OUR RIDERSHIP? SYSTEM WIDE, WE'RE HOVERING AT ABOUT 83% OF PRE-PANDEMIC RIDERSHIP.

THAT'S ABOUT 55.6 MILLION RIDES IN FY 24. THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, JUST FOR CONTEXT, IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 69 AND 76%.

I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT NUMBERS. SO EITHER WAY, WE'RE STILL AHEAD OF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE BY QUITE A BIT.

AND ABOUT 52% OF THOSE RIDES ARE ON THE BUS SIDE.

ABOUT 40 TO 42% ARE ON THE LIGHT RAIL SIDE, WITH THE REST OF THE NUMBERS BEING FILLED IN WITH THE OTHER SERVICES THAT WE HAVE.

SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO CARRY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE BUS AND LIGHT RAIL SYSTEMS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. FOR DALLAS ALONE, WE ARE STILL TRENDING AHEAD OF LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS.

WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE FY 25 Q1 NUMBERS IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

BUT JUST FOR CONTEXT, AGAIN IN DALLAS ALONE, WE WERE LOOKING AT 42.3 MILLION RIDES IN FY 24.

AGAIN, 52% OF THAT IS ON THE BUS SIDE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO AS I MENTIONED, BUS CONTINUES TO CARRY MOST OF THE RIDERS ON OUR SYSTEM.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO WE REDESIGNED OUR BUS NETWORK.

OUR TOP TEN BUS ROUTES ARE HIGH FREQUENCY SERVICES COVERING THE MAJOR CORRIDORS THROUGHOUT THE DART SERVICE AREA.

THREE OF THE TOP TEN ROUTES COVER THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LOOP 12.

AND WE'VE MADE SOME FREQUENCY INVESTMENTS ON ROUTE 22 STARTING IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THAT HAS LED TO A LOT MORE RIDERSHIP ON THE FOREST LANE ROUTE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IS OUR NUMBER TWO RIDERSHIP FOR OUR BUS ROUTES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE GOLDEN LINK MICRO-TRANSIT SERVICE.

THIS IS THE ON DEMAND CURB TO CURB COVERAGE SERVICE THAT HELPS US MAKE THE LAST MILE CONNECTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATIONS.

THE GO LINK PROGRAM WAS SIGNIFICANTLY EXPANDED AS PART AS PART OF THE BUS NETWORK REDESIGN IN 2022.

AT THAT TIME, WE WENT FROM I THINK IT WAS LIKE 17 GO LINK ZONES TO 30 GO LINK ZONES, AND OUR 30 ZONES NOW COVER OVER 400MI² THROUGHOUT OUR SERVICE AREA AND SERVES ABOUT 7,000 RIDERS A DAY. AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, OUR TOP GO LINK ZONES TOP RIDERSHIP GO LINK ZONES INCLUDE SOUTHERN DALLAS, INLAND PORT, PLANO, NORTH CENTRAL IRVING, CYPRESS WATERS, AND ROWLETT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW, YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE'VE MADE A CONCERTED EFFORT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TO IMPROVE SECURITY, CLEANLINESS AND RELIABILITY ON OUR SYSTEM. WE HAVE 24 HOUR COVERAGE AT ALL OF OUR BUS AND RAIL OPERATING FACILITIES.

WE'VE ADDED 100 UNIFORMED ARMED SECURITY OFFICERS ON OUR TRAINS, PLATFORMS AND BUSSES.

WE LAUNCHED OUR DART CARES PILOT PROGRAM WHICH WAS DESIGNED TO HELP US ADDRESS THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION ON OUR SYSTEM.

WE HAVE A PRETTY RIGOROUS CLEANING CLEANING REGIMEN THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED AT ALL OF OUR STATIONS, BUS STOPS, TRANSIT FACILITIES. WE'VE IMPLEMENTED AN ELEVATOR ATTENDANT PROGRAM FOR ALL OF OUR ELEVATORS AT THE STATIONS, WHERE WE DO HAVE ELEVATORS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN OUR CONTROL.

AND THEN OUR RAIL VEHICLES ARE GETTING CLEANED AT ALL AT THE EIGHT TERMINUS STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

AND DART IS CONTINUING TO DELIVER OVER 99% OF ALL BUS AND RAIL TRIPS DUE TO OUR AGGRESSIVE HIRING EFFORTS.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE CONTINUING THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SO ME. EXCUSE ME. MEETING OVER 99% OF ALL OF OUR SCHEDULED TRIPS.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

NOW I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT ALL OF THESE EFFORTS ARE REALLY STARTING TO SHOW IN OUR CUSTOMER SATISFACTION NUMBERS.

IN JUST TWO YEARS, WE'VE GONE FROM 58% OVERALL CUSTOMER SATISFACTION TO 72%.

AND WE'RE VERY, VERY PROUD OF HAVING IMPROVED THIS MUCH IN SUCH A SHORT SPAN OF TIME.

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THERE ARE SIX SITES IN DALLAS ALONE. WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THOSE FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

AND ALL OF THESE SITES, EXCUSE ME, ARE A TRUE VALUE ADD TO THE SERVICE AREA.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW, LAST YEAR WE RELEASED A STUDY BY THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS ECONOMICS RESEARCH GROUP.

THIS STUDY FURTHER CONFIRMS LONG HELD BELIEFS AMONG ECONOMISTS AND REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS ABOUT DART'S SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR REGIONAL ECONOMY.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MY COUGHING. FROM 2019 TO 2021 ALONE, 31 TRANSIT ORIENTED PROJECTS GENERATED NEARLY $1 BILLION IN DIRECT SPENDING AND CREATED OVER 10,700 JOBS. THE CUMULATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACT IN THE DART SERVICE AREA SINCE 1999 EXCEEDS $17 BILLION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE HISTORY OF THE D2 PLANNING PROCESS.

YOU MAY KNOW, SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW THAT D2 STARTED AS AN AT GRADE LIGHT RAIL PROJECT WHEN DART ANTICIPATED REACHING TEN MINUTE PEAK HEADWAYS ON ALL FOUR RAIL LINES. AT THE TIME, D2 RATED REALLY WELL IN THE FEDERAL CORE CAPACITY PROGRAM.

HOWEVER, IN IN 2017, THERE WAS A PUSH TO MAKE D2 A SUBWAY, AND DART THEN PROCEEDED POST 2017 WITH D2 AS A SUBWAY PROJECT, AND DUE TO THE CHANGES IN PROJECT DEFINITION D2 WAS REMOVED FROM THE FEDERAL GRANT PROGRAM, BUT WE PROCEEDED KNOWING WE COULD ALWAYS GET BACK IN WHEN WE WERE READY.

SO WE WENT THROUGH AN EIS PROCESS ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY PROCESS IN 2018 THROUGH 2021.

IN 2021, WE TOOK A SECOND LOOK AT THE EAST END OF THE PROJECT, WHICH FURTHER DELAYED REENTRY INTO THE FEDERAL THE FTA GRANT PROGRAM.

AND THE MAIN POINT IS THAT SINCE THE PANDEMIC LIGHT RAIL GETTING TO TEN MINUTE PEAK HEADWAYS AS PROJECTED IN 2010 IS STILL PRETTY FAR AWAY.

AND THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AT NCTCOG, MICHAEL MORRIS, RAISED THIS QUESTION NOT LONG AFTER I ARRIVED HERE IN NORTH TEXAS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO SO WHEN MICHAEL MORRIS ASKED US THIS QUESTION, WE TOOK A LOOK AT D2.

AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS THAT GOVERN OUR DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROJECT.

THERE ARE SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN THE 1990 MASTER ILA.

THE MOST, PROBABLY THE MOST COMPELLING IS IN SECTION C, WHICH LISTS RIDERSHIP AND HEADWAY TRIGGERS.

THE ILA GOES ON LATER TO REFER TO SECTION C AS GOVERNING THE FUTURE PROGRAMING OR EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO BACK IN FY 23 WE ANTICIPATED A 2035 REVENUE SERVICE DATE.

HOWEVER, AS I MENTIONED POST PANDEMIC, WE ARE NOT LIKELY TO MEET THE TRIGGER TRIGGERS STIPULATED IN SECTION C EVEN BY 2035. AND SO THERE ARE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCES ASSUMED FOR D2, A LARGE PORTION OF THE FUNDING IS ASSUMED TO BE IN THE FORM OF DEBT FINANCING AND FEDERAL GRANTS. AND IN ADDITION, ABOUT $4 MILLION ANNUALLY WAS PROJECTED FOR OPERATING COSTS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO IN FY 24, GIVEN THE TRENDS WE WERE SEEING POST-PANDEMIC, THE BOARD GAVE DIRECTION TO MOVE THE D2 INVESTMENT OUTSIDE OF THE 20 YEAR FINANCIAL PLAN AND TO REPROGRAM FUNDS FOR NEAR AND MID-TERM SYSTEM MODERNIZATION NEEDS.

AND IN OTHER WORDS, THE BOARD FELT IT WAS PRUDENT TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN THE LONG TERM RESILIENCY OF OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND IN THE MEANTIME, OUR OBJECTIVE HAS BEEN TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS ON PLANS TO IMPROVE MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND ACROSS DALLAS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THESE DECISIONS WERE CODIFIED IN THE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS AND DART IN JUNE OF 2023, AS YOU SEE HERE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO LET ME MOVE ON TO THE DALLAS STREETCAR.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE CITY OF DALLAS OWNS THE STREETCAR, AND DART OPERATES THE STREETCAR FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS UNDER THE MASTER ILA.

THE STREETCAR CARRIES ABOUT 500 RIDERS A DAY OVER TWO AND A HALF MILES, AND IT RUNS ABOUT 20 MINUTE, 20 MINUTE SERVICE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S IN THE MASTER ILA FOR THE STREETCAR.

AS YOU CAN SEE, DALLAS IS THE OWNER. DART IS THE OWNER'S REP AND THE OPERATOR.

INVESTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE FOR THE STREETCAR DEPEND ON DALLAS IDENTIFYING FUNDING AND SCOPE FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND OF COURSE DART HAS ALWAYS BEEN A TECHNICAL ADVISOR TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND WE CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THAT ROLE.

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AND THROUGH THIS AGREEMENT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, DART SERVES AS AN ADVISOR.

SO WE HAVE HOSTED TWO WORKSHOPS TO LOOK AT THE BEST PRACTICES AND SUSTAINABLE MODELS AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR STREETCAR TO HELP GUIDE SOME OF THAT CONVERSATION.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IN TERMS OF FUTURE PLANS, DART, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, HAS A NEW STRATEGIC PLAN CALLED POINT B. THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN JUNE OF 2024, AND THE MAIN OBJECTIVE AROUND POINT B, IS TO LEVERAGE DART AS AN ECONOMIC AND MOBILITY ASSET FOR ALL OF OUR 13 SERVICE AREA CITIES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE REWROTE THE MISSION AND VISION STATEMENTS FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

WE REALLY WANT TO BE THE FIRST IN MIND. WE WANT TO BE SO UBIQUITOUS AND SO CONVENIENT THAT NO ONE HAS TO THINK TWICE ABOUT TAKING DART.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT DART TO BE THE MOBILITY CHOICE THAT HELPS INDIVIDUALS AND COMMUNITIES THRIVE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. POINT B HAS SIX GOALS THAT DOVETAIL VERY NICELY WITH THE SIX PRINCIPLES OF THE CONNECT DALLAS STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN.

OUR QUALITY SERVICE GOAL ADDRESSES THE DESIRE TO ALWAYS IMPROVE SAFETY ON DART SERVICES.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY GOAL IN YOUR STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN TALKS ABOUT REDUCING RELIANCE ON SINGLE SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES.

SO WORKING TOGETHER BETWEEN DART AND THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE REALLY WANT TO GET MORE PEOPLE RIDING TRANSIT TO HELP DALLAS ACHIEVE ITS GOALS.

AND THEN FANTASTIC SPACES, ONE OF OUR GOALS IN THE POINT B STRATEGIC PLAN IS ALL ABOUT ACTIVATING SPACES AND MAKING THEM MORE PRODUCTIVE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIES, AND IT'S ALSO ABOUT HOUSING, IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE LINK BETWEEN LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION.

SO VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THE MOBILITY GOALS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ESTABLISHED FOR YOUR OWN CITY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW, AS A REMINDER WE HAVE A SYSTEM MODERNIZATION MODERNIZATION PROGRAM CALLED DART TRANSFORM.

DART TRANSFORM IS A GENERATIONAL JOURNEY TO MODERNIZE DART'S SYSTEM, TO ADDRESS STATE OF GOOD REPAIR AND IMPROVE IMPROVE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE.

THIS PROGRAM IS FOCUSED ON FIVE CORE ELEMENTS REPLACING OUR VEHICLES, UNIFYING OUR SIGNALING SYSTEM, HARDENING OUR SYSTEM TO EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS, AND ENHANCING PASSENGER AND OPERATING FACILITIES TO ADDRESS THE CHANGING NEEDS OF OUR INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL CUSTOMERS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AS PART OF THE TRANSFORM PROGRAM, WE ARE REPLACING BOTH OUR BUS AND RAIL FLEETS.

FOR BOTH FLEETS, WE ARE ENHANCING COMFORT, CONVENIENCE AND ACCESSIBILITY FOR CUSTOMERS AND ALSO IMPROVING THE EXPERIENCE FOR OUR OPERATORS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS PART OF TRANSFORM, WE ARE UNIFYING OUR SIGNAL SYSTEM ACROSS OUR FOUR LIGHT RAIL LINES, WHICH IS INTENDED TO ENHANCE SAFETY AND IMPROVE COMMUNICATIONS ACROSS THE SYSTEM.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AT OUR STATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO BE RAISING THE REMAINING PLATFORMS FOR UNIVERSAL ACCESSIBILITY.

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE REMOVING 44 CENTER CROSSWALKS AT OUR STATION PLATFORMS TO IMPROVE CROSSING SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE WITH INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SPECIFIC TO CITY PLACE AS PART OF TRANSFORM, CITY PLACE STATION IS GOING TO SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN PREPARATION FOR THE DELIVERY OF THE NEW VEHICLES. THE PROJECTS INCLUDE A FULL LENGTH PLATFORM RAISE TO ACCOMMODATE LIGHT RAIL, VEHICLE LEVEL BOARDING, REPLACEMENT OF SIX MAJOR ESCALATORS AND TWO INCLINATORS, WHICH IS UNDERWAY.

THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN THIS FALL. WE'LL HAVE STATIONARY REFINEMENTS TO ENHANCE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONCEPTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO REFINE DURING FINAL DESIGN, WHICH BEGINS LATE THIS YEAR. AND WE HAVE AN ANTICIPATED PHASED IMPLEMENTATION FOR ALL THESE STATIONARY IMPROVEMENTS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW, WHEN WE LAUNCHED THE NEW BUS NETWORK IN 2022, WE INTENDED TO BUILD UPON WHAT WE HAD DONE.

IN 2024, WE STARTED ROLLING OUT ADDITIONAL SERVICES.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE EVENTUALLY WANT TO GET TO THIS TIER TWO NETWORK, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE RIGHT, WHERE A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF LOT OF COVERAGE OF HIGH FREQUENCY BUS BUS SERVICE ACROSS OUR SERVICE AREA.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL IN RED ON THE TIER TWO NETWORK ON THE RIGHT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE HIGH FREQUENCY BUS ROUTES ARE NOT LIMITED TO DALLAS, WHICH AGAIN MEANS THAT PEOPLE IN DALLAS CAN GET TO OTHER CITIES MORE EASILY THAN THEY DO TODAY. AND IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT ACCESS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CONNECTIVITY.

AND SO IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO HAVE PLACES WHERE CUSTOMERS CAN CONNECT TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATIONS.

AND SO THESE MOBILITY HUBS THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THIS SLIDE ARE REALLY THE CONCEPT OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO AGGREGATE AND INTEGRATE ALL THE VARIOUS SERVICES TOGETHER SO THAT PEOPLE

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THIS IS A BIG OPPORTUNITY AREA FOR DART AND ALL OF OUR MEMBER CITIES, AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THESE CONCEPTS AND LOCATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IN ADDITION TO MOBILITY HUBS, WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO IMPROVE THE WAITING EXPERIENCE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

THESE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE RENDERINGS OF OUR PROTOTYPE SHELTER.

I GUESS THOSE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS. OUR OUR PROTOTYPE SHELTERS THAT WE'RE PILOTING RIGHT NOW AND LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMERS ON HOW THEY LIKE THEM.

SO WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE HAVE ONE OF THESE STANDARD SHELTERS INSTALLED AT MALCOLM X AND CLARENCE. AND WE'LL GET YOU WE'LL GET YOU ALL THESE LOCATIONS BECAUSE THERE'S FIVE LOCATIONS.

AND THEN WE HAVE A LOCATION AT [INAUDIBLE] HALL.

BOTH BOTH OF THOSE ARE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. THERE'S ALSO AN INSTALLATION IN RICHARDSON, ONE IN PLANO, AND ALSO ONE IN GARLAND. AND SO CUSTOMERS CAN GO OUT ANYWHERE AT THESE FIVE LOCATIONS AND TAKE A LOOK AT THESE PROTOTYPE SHELTERS TO GIVE US FEEDBACK.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ONE OF THE GOALS IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS CALLED FANTASTIC SPACES.

AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. FANTASTIC SPACES CAN RANGE FROM A BUS SHELTER OR A TRANSIT HUB, WELL INTEGRATED INTO A DEVELOPMENT SITE TO A PARK, POCKET PARK, OR A MAJOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THEY CAN ALSO BE STATION ACTIVATIONS, LIKE SETTING UP REGULAR FARMERS MARKETS TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO HEALTHY FOOD IN FOOD DESERTS.

EITHER WAY, WE WANT TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO CREATE ENGAGING AND INSPIRING SPACES THAT SUPPORT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS FAR AS JOINT DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES GO, WE'RE BREAKING GROUND ON MOCKINGBIRD BY THE END OF 2025.

WE EXPECT TO EXECUTE, LEASE, EXECUTE A LEASE AND BEGIN DESIGN ON BUCKNER STATION BY FALL OF 2025.

AND THEN THE OTHER FOUR TOD SITES HAMPTON, WESTMORELAND, LAKE JUNE, ROYAL LANE ARE AT VARYING STAGES OF PROGRESS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS PART OF OUR EFFORT TO CREATE FANTASTIC SPACES, WE ARE HOSTING THE INAUGURAL NORTH TEXAS TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT SUMMIT ON MARCH 27TH AT THE W HOTEL IN UPTOWN. WE ARE BRINGING SPEAKERS IN FROM ALL OVER TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW TO MAXIMIZE THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF OUR LAND ASSETS.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO LAUNCH THIS SUMMIT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING PARTICIPANTS FROM DALLAS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ONE OF POINT B'S GOALS IS TO CULTIVATE STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL THE PARTNERS IN OUR REGION.

WE KNOW WE CAN'T DO THIS ALONE, AND WE THINK THERE ARE EXPERTS AROUND THE REGION WHO WE CAN LEVERAGE TO DO MORE WITH US.

NEXT SLIDE. SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO CHAIR SLAGEL TO DISCUSS FUNDING AND GOVERNANCE, AND LET HIM CLOSE OUT THIS PRESENTATION. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE NEXT SECTION? THAT'S UP TO YOU. YEAH. IF THERE ARE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, AT THIS POINT WE'RE GOING WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE AND OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT.

AND WE CAN START STEWART, DO YOU HAVE A...

NADINE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU WITH YOUR YOUR MASK EARLIER.

YEAH. I'M SO SORRY ABOUT THE MASK. I JUST GREETED YOU.

I HAVE THIS TERRIBLE COUGH, AS YOU NOTICED, AND I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO FRIGHTEN ANYBODY.

WELL, I'M VERY IMPRESSED YOU'RE HERE WITH YOUR COUGH AND ALL OF THAT. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT RIDERSHIP.

AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE KIND OF DUG INTO WHAT RIDERS ARE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF DOING THE SPACES AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT PLANNING FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF MOBILITY. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN OF A RIDER IS? ARE THEY, IS IT TIME? IS IT WHAT WHAT IS YOUR WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE OR STUDY OR RESEARCH TELL YOU? YEAH. SO WHAT I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH IS WHAT I REFER TO AS THE CORE NEEDS OF OUR OF OUR RIDERS.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT RIDERS NEED, AND WITHOUT THEM, THERE'S NOT EVEN A CONSIDERATION TO TAKE TRANSIT.

AND SO THOSE CORE NEEDS USUALLY REVOLVE AROUND THINGS LIKE SECURITY, CLEANLINESS, RELIABILITY.

OBVIOUSLY SECURITY AND CLEANLINESS, WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF STEPS TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES BY ENHANCING OUR CLEANING REGIMEN, IMPROVING THE PRESENCE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ON OUR SYSTEM, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE DO WE HAVE A SECURITY STRATEGY THAT HELPS US MOVE FROM THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT TO MORE OF A CULTURE OF SELF MANAGEMENT ON THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY FEELS SAFE WITH ADDITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE.

BUT THE RELIABILITY PIECE, I THINK IS ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT.

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IN ORDER FOR TRANSIT TO BE PARTICULARLY USEFUL TO INDIVIDUALS, IT'S IT HAS TO BE IT HAS TO COME AROUND OFTEN ENOUGH FOR THEM TO MAKE IT USEFUL. AND WE REALLY I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR US TO ENHANCE THE FREQUENCY OF OUR SERVICES.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARY WAY THAT WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW IS THROUGH OUR BUS NETWORK.

MY TEAM HERE, ROB SMITH WHO PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO JUMP IN AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AT SOME POINT.

YOU KNOW, HE HAS THIS ENTIRE ELABORATE PLAN OF THE TIER ONE AND TIER TWO NETWORKS FROM OUR BUS NETWORK REDESIGN THAT IS THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE CAN INCREASE SERVICES OVER TIME TO REALLY MAKE TRANSIT UBIQUITOUS AND VERY CONVENIENT FOR ALL OF OUR ALL OF OUR FOLKS IN THE SERVICE AREA. SO SO IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME WHAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ARE, CERTAINLY FREQUENCY, AVAILABILITY OF SERVICE, I THINK IS IS A HUGE, HUGE PIECE OF THIS.

THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW. I THINK SOMETIMES WE THINK IT IS MORE LIKE BEING ON TIME AS OPPOSED TO THE FREQUENCY IS MORE IS MORE YOUR FOCUS.

AND I JUST WANT TO PUT IN A PLUG FOR WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON STREETCAR TO TRY TO CONNECT IT WITH THE TROLLEY IN UPTOWN.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT THAT, AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A MEANINGFUL CONNECTION.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD OTHER STREETCAR CONNECTIONS.

I'M NOT FORGETTING. AND I'M SURE THOSE WILL BE BROUGHT UP, TOO.

BUT I THINK THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONNECTING OUR CITY WITH THE STREETCAR.

AND SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT THAT.

YEAH, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF ON THAT. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHAIR STEWART. I'M GOING TO COME AROUND.

CHAIR RESENDEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMMEND ALL THE WORK THAT DART IS DOING OVERALL.

I LOVE SEEING THE PAGE ABOUT THE COVERAGE, AND I KNOW THERE'S STILL ISSUES TO ADDRESS IN TERMS OF FREQUENCY AND OTHER THINGS, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO COMMEND DART FOR ITS EFFORTS WITH REGARD TO TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS.

I SEE THAT THE BUCKNER STATION IS INCLUDED IN THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE TRANSFORMATIVE FOR SOUTHEAST DALLAS.

AND SO THE MORE AND MORE THAT WE LOOK AT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DART I THINK THE MORE POSITIVE IMPACT WE CAN HAVE ON OUR ON OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. I GUESS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GOT BACK AND WE CUT A WHOLE LOT OF BUS STOPS OUT OF THE OUT OF THE SYSTEM, THE RIDERSHIP BECAUSE OF RIDERSHIP. AND I KNOW WE WENT BACK AND TRIED TO REGROUP AND SEE HOW WE CAN DO THAT.

BUT THE MAIN CONCERN THAT, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF DALLAS, CONCERN WAS THE ACCESS TO THE BUS STOP.

YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THE TRASH, MAKE SURE THEY'RE COVERING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THE RESPONSE THAT WE GOT IT'S GOING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, 3 TO 5 YEARS, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE COVERAGE TO GET THAT.

SO TO GET RIDERSHIP DUE TO THE SUMMER HEAT AND THE INCLEMENT WEATHER, 3 TO 5 YEARS IS A LONG WAY TO TRY TO STUDY IT OUT.

SO WE'RE LOSING A WHOLE LOT OF RIDERSHIP BECAUSE OF THAT FREQUENCY.

SO YOU WANT TO SPEAK OF WHAT TIMELINE COULD THAT BE SHORTENED BECAUSE OF FINANCE OR WHAT? AND YOU'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SIDEWALK ACCESS? SIDEWALKS AND COVERING.

OH YEAH. SO ACTUALLY, DEE DO YOU HAVE CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PLANS ON THE BUS SHELTER ROLLOUT AND, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SIDEWALK PIECES OF THE MOU.

HI, DEE LEGETT, CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER WITH WITH DART.

SO, SO YES, WE DO HAVE A 3 TO 5 YEAR PROGRAM.

PART OF THAT IS, IS WHAT WHAT NADINE HAS SHOWED IS WE ARE CURRENTLY DESIGNING A NEW BUS SHELTER.

SO ONCE WE COLLECT THE FEEDBACK, WE WILL THEN START THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS.

WE'RE GOING AHEAD AND ADVANCING AS MUCH OF THE DESIGN WORK AS POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF THE SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WE ARE WANTING TO INSTALL.

AND THEN WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE CITY AS WE THINK THROUGH THEIR PRIORITIZATION OF THEIR SIDEWALKS AND THEIR ADA RAMPS, THROUGH USAGE OF THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUNDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE GOING TO GO ALONGSIDE WITH WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT SHELTERS AND IMPROVED BUS STOPS. SO IT IS IT IS A 3 TO 5 YEAR PROGRAM.

WE'RE MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO GET THAT DONE, BUT PART OF IT IS GOING TO BE THE MANUFACTURING TIME FRAME OF THE NEW SHELTERS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY PILOTING. AND WHEN YOU SAY THE 3 TO 5 YEAR TERM IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE WHAT PART OF THE CITY, THE LOCATION, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE IN YOUR PLANS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO START THE LAYOUT? AS A FOLLOW UP TO THIS MEETING WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF TO GET COUNCIL AN UPDATED PLAN OF OF THE TIMING OF THE SHELTERS AND WHERE THOSE,

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SO I KNOW 3 OR 5 YEARS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT IT IS BUT I LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COME BACK WITH AN UPDATE AND SAY, HEY, HERE IS THE OVER MAP OF ALL THE BUS STOP, AND HERE'S THE TIMELINE WHEN YOU GET TO THAT, SO PEOPLE WILL NOT SAY 3 TO 5 YEARS IS ON 3 YEARS ON 5 YEARS.

SO IF YOU CAN GET SOME KIND OF LOCATION OR SOME KIND OF MAP TO SHOW THE RESIDENT, YOU KNOW.

WE'LL BE GLAD TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU. AND ALSO AS AS WE LOOK AT SCALING THE SIZE OF AMENITIES, WE'VE ALSO WE'RE DEVELOPING A SMALLER SCALE VERSION FOR SOME OF OUR LOW CAPACITY BUS STOPS TO AT LEAST PROVIDE SOME SEATING, SOME SHELTER FOR EVEN THOSE STOPS AS WELL. WE'LL BE GLAD TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL.

AND AND ONE LAST THING IS A CLEAN NEIGHBORHOOD IS A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT ON YOUR BUS STOP, WE NEED TRASH CAN RECEPTACLES PICKING UP.

BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN SOMEONE SEES A BUS STOP, THEY THROW THE TRASH, NOBODY PICK IT UP.

AND SO THEREFORE THE LITTER AND I CALL PEOPLE AND AND THE TRASH GETTING TO OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND THEY PAID A FINE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT PUTTING THE BLAME ON DART.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I THINK THE BUS STOP SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE A TRASH CAN SO PEOPLE CAN THROW THE TRASH IN.

YEAH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITIES OF THE DART TRANSFORM PROGRAM.

AS, AS NADINE SPOKE ABOUT THE LOOK AT OUR PASSENGER AMENITIES, BOTH STATIONS AND BUS STOPS, HOW CAN WE PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ENTIRE CUSTOMER JOURNEY? BECAUSE THEIR ACCESS TO OUR OUR BUS STOP STARTS WHEN THEY LEAVE THEIR HOUSE.

AND SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PARTNERING WITH, WITH THE CITY OR ADJACENT DEVELOPERS TO MAKE THAT JOURNEY AS AS AS SPECIAL AS POSSIBLE.

AND THE LAST QUESTION, HOW DO THE RESIDENT, THE RIDER SAID IF THEY GOT AN ISSUE, IS THERE A CERTAIN NUMBER THEY NEED TO CALL AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, AT THIS PARTICULAR BUS STOP, NUMBER 4522 .

I DON'T HAVE A TRASH CAN THERE. AND I GOT SOME COVER I NEED SIDEWALK.

SO I KNOW Y'ALL CAN'T JUMP OFF AT ONE TIME, BUT WE NEED TO GET THAT OUT TO THE LABOR AND SAY, WHAT DO YOU CALL AND NOT TO GET THIS BAD NUMBER.

WE'LL DO A REVIEW OF WHERE WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS POSTED.

AND I KNOW LAST TIME I WAS HERE, SOMEBODY ASKED ME ABOUT THE NUMBER, BUT I, I USUALLY CALL MY PERSONAL LINE TO TO THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER.

SO WE'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE NUMBERS YOU KNOW, OPENLY POSTED THROUGHOUT OUR SYSTEM SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO CALL.

BUT YES, WE DO HAVE STOP NUMBERS FOR EACH OF OUR BUS STOPS SO THAT IF THERE'S IF THERE'S EVER AN ISSUE ANYONE WHO CALLS IN, WE CAN GET THOSE THOSE THINGS ADDRESSED RIGHT AWAY.

I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT THAT DART PRIOR TO THIS PROGRAM, DART HAD NOT HAD A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM TO LOOK AT OUR BUS SYSTEM AND THE THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR SHELTERS OVER TIME AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SHELTERS AND THE WAY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IT NOW.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUS SYSTEM ON A SYSTEM WIDE LEVEL AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PROGRAM ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THOSE ASSETS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THE RESPECT AND DIGNITY TO OUR BUS RIDERS EVERY BIT AS MUCH AS WE DO TO OUR RAIL RIDERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

IT'S COMPREHENSIVE. IT'S HELPFUL ALL THAT. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT ARE SORT OF ALL OVER THE PLACE, JUST LIKE YALL ARE. FIRST OF ALL, ON THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS, HAVE YOU FOUND THAT THERE'S BEEN SINCE YOU'VE BEEN INVESTING IN THOSE AREAS THAT THERE'S BEEN A REDUCTION IN CRIME AND HOMELESSNESS? OR IS THAT PART OF WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, LIKE FOREST LANE AND SOME OF THE OTHERS, THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE. AND SO COULD THAT BE A SOLUTION THAT WOULD ACTUALLY RESULT IN THAT REDUCTION? I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE. I'M JUST LOOKING AT CHIEF CATO TO SEE IF HE HAS ANY STATISTICS ON THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT BEFORE AND AFTER STUDIES.

YEAH. WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT ACTIVATING SPACE IS HUGELY IMPORTANT AS IT RELATES TO REDUCTION OF CRIME.

ONCE YOU HAVE PEOPLE CONGREGATING IN AN AREA AND ACTUALLY USING THE SPACE FOR THE VARIOUS YOU KNOW, SOCIAL INTERACTIONS AND ECONOMIC TRANSACTIONS, I THINK IT'S REALLY I MEAN, I THINK YOU START TO BRING THE ACTIVITY THAT HELPS TO DETER CRIME. NOW, NUMBERS WISE, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I'M GOING TO DEFER TO CHIEF KATO IN CASE HE HAS SOMETHING.

OTHERWISE, I'M GOING TO MAKE TO MAKE SOMETHING UP. THANK YOU CHIEF.

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SO WE WHAT WE DO SEE IS DURING THOSE POCKETS WHERE WE HAVE HIGH CONCENTRATIONS OF RIDERS, FOR EXAMPLE, DURING OCTOBER, WHERE WE DURING THE FAIR, WE HAVE OUR HIGHEST RIDERSHIP NUMBERS BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE USE IT AND WE HAVE OUR LOWEST CRIME RATE DURING THAT MONTH.

AND SO I DO BELIEVE AS WE BUILD OUT THESE AREAS THAT WE WILL SEE CORRESPONDING RESULTS IN CRIME AS WELL, SO. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, HAVE YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OUTREACH TO PARTNERSHIPS WITH OUTREACH LIKE OUR DEPARTMENT OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS OR OTHERS THERE? HAVE YOU? YES, WE HAVE A MULTIDISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAM.

WE WE ACTUALLY MET WITH DALLAS PD'S RIGHT CARE TEAM.

IN FACT, THE LIEUTENANT WHO'S OVER THAT TEAM, SHE CAME OVER AND HELPED US IN OUR PERSONNEL SELECTIONS AND HELPED US SET UP OUR PROGRAM.

AND SO WHEN WE HAVE OUR HAVE OUR CLINICAL LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKERS GOING OUT WITH OUR POLICE OFFICERS.

SO WE HAVE A DUAL DUAL CONCENTRATION GOING ON.

SO WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS. WE WORK WITH THEM, WE WORK WITH DDI, WE WORK WITH NINE DIFFERENT OUTSIDE ENTITIES BESIDES, OUR STAFF AT DART. PARKLAND PROVIDES THE CLINICIANS FOR US.

AND SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER.

SO WE DON'T NUMBER ONE, WE DON'T DUPLICATE EFFORTS.

AND NUMBER TWO, WE DON'T JUST PUSH OUR PROBLEMS TO YOU AND YOU PUSH YOUR PROBLEMS TO US, THAT WE'RE WORKING COMPREHENSIVELY SO THAT WE ACTUALLY GET PEOPLE SERVICES THEY NEED AND KEEP THEM FROM, YOU KNOW, ENDING UP IN JAIL WHERE IT DOESN'T REALLY RESOLVE ANYTHING EITHER, SO. EXACTLY. AND I THINK THAT IT ALSO YOU KNOW, FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT MAY BE COUNTERINTUITIVE, INTUITIVE, THAT THE MORE EYES THERE ARE, THE ACTUAL SAFER IT IS, AND THE MORE BUSY SOMETHING IS, THE SAFER IT IS. I THINK THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT LESSON OVERALL FOR OUR CITY.

SO THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. MY SECOND QUESTION IS HAVE WE IN TERMS OF THE BUS STOPS, I KNOW I DID JUST A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THIS, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A VIABLE EFFORT, IF IT'S WORTH IT TO PUT ANY EFFORT INTO THE IDEA OF ALLOWING COMMUNITIES TO ADOPT A SPOT STOP, RATHER A STOP OR A SERIES OF BUS STOPS ALONG A ROUTE OR WHATEVER WHERE THEY CAN BEAUTIFY IT, THEY CAN WELCOME PEOPLE OR WHATEVER BEYOND JUST KEEPING IT CLEAN.

IS THERE THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITY OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WAY? I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS THAT OPPORTUNITY. I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW IF DART EVER HAD A PROGRAM LIKE THAT.

SO I'M LOOKING TOWARDS PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AT DART.

NO, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT PROGRAM BEFORE.

DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING? TRINITY METRO HAS A SIMILAR PROGRAM SO WE CAN LOOK AT HOW THEY STOOD THEIR UP, STOOD THEIRS UP AND AND WHAT THE THE OUTCOMES HAVE OUTCOMES HAVE BEEN.

I KNOW WE'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN OUR DISTRICT AND AND THAT LEADS TO MY NEXT QUESTION, THEN, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE ONE MORE AFTER THAT.

AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF REQUESTS FROM DIFFERENT CITIES IN OUR REGION, SOME OF THE SUBURBS, SOME CITIES, BUT THEY'RE MORE HOMOGENOUS IN SOME WAYS THAN WE ARE IN THE SENSE OF WHAT THEY WANT FROM DART.

AND SO I'M WONDERING, WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH TO HELP DALLAS WITH ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND ALL OF OUR DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT, HELP FIGURE OUT HOW WHAT DALLAS SPECIFICALLY NEEDS FROM DART.

SO THE PRIMARY MECHANISM FOR DOING THAT IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS OUR AREA PLANNING PROCESS.

OF COURSE, DALLAS IS A MUCH BIGGER CITY THAN THE OTHER SUBURBAN CITIES, BUT BUT THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS IS DESIGNED FOR US TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH YOUR STAFF TO DETERMINE WHAT THE MOBILITY NEEDS ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.

NOT JUST WITH WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY, BUT TO LOOK AT WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE THE SERVICES THAT YOU HAVE TODAY, COUPLED WITH THE WORK THAT ROB SMITH HAS DONE WITH THE TIER TWO NETWORKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON OUR NEW BUS NETWORK.

SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS START TO LAYER ON THE DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP PEOPLE GET TO THEIR FINAL DESTINATION.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO DEFINE WHAT THOSE SERVICES ARE.

AND I THINK WE HAVE STARTED THAT PROCESS, BUT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO HOLD OUR NEXT ROUND OF WORKSHOPS WITH THE CITY STAFF.

SO DALLAS THEN WILL BE PART OF THAT OVERALL PLANNING THE WAY WE ABSOLUTELY WHAT THE OTHERS ARE ASKING FOR ALL THE TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION, IF I MAY, IS I KNOW I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS ARE IN OUR SUCCESS OF HAVING ANY KIND OF RAIL TO THE AIRPORT, BUT IS THERE ANY CHANCE AT ALL OF ANYTHING EVER HAPPENING AT LOVE FIELD? NOT NECESSARILY RAIL, BUT JUST LIKE TRANSPORTATION.

SO WE HAVE A CONNECTION FROM THE GREEN LINE TO THE AIRPORT TO LOVE FIELD.

AND I SEE THAT ROB SMITH IS MAKING MOVES BECAUSE HE'S MUCH MORE WELL VERSED.

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YEAH. SO I'LL DEFER TO ROB TO GIVE YOU THE HISTORY BEHIND THE CONNECTION TO THE AIRPORT.

THANK YOU. THE CURRENT SERVICE TO LOVE FIELD IS OUR ROUTE FIVE, AND IT RUNS FROM INWOOD LOVE FIELD STATION DIRECTLY TO THE TERMINAL.

IT RUNS EVERY 15 MINUTES ALL DAY. SERVICE STARTS AROUND 4 IN THE MORNING AND CONTINUES TO ABOUT 1 A.M.

7 DAYS A WEEK. AND THAT 15 MINUTE SERVICE ON THAT ROUTE IS BASICALLY AT ALL TIMES.

AND IS IT GETTING GOOD RIDES? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S HARD, LIKE.

WE ARE BACK TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS ON THAT ROUTE.

IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 600 A DAY. OKAY. AND THEN IS THERE LIKE AT TWO BOTH AIRPORTS.

IS THERE IS PART OF THE PLAN DOWN THE ROAD. BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS JUST A SNAPSHOT OF ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING TO REALLY GROW THAT, THAT EXPECTATION THAT PEOPLE WOULD TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO THE AIRPORT AIRPORTS.

SO SO WE HAVE THE ORANGE LINE THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO DFW.

THE SILVER LINE IS GOING TO CONNECT DIRECTLY INTO DFW AS WELL.

THOSE SERVICES YOU KNOW, WE CAN KEEP PROMOTING THEM, OBVIOUSLY, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE CONVENIENT AS TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO GROW AND CONGESTION CONTINUES TO IMPACT PEOPLE'S TRAVEL TIMES.

WHAT WE ALSO WANT TO DO WITH OUR SYSTEM MODERNIZATION PROGRAM IS DO WHAT WE CAN TO SPEED UP THOSE TRAVEL TIMES.

BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE A WHILE TO GET TO DFW IN PARTICULAR.

AND SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KIND OF SPEED UP THOSE TRAVEL TIMES BY IMPROVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EXISTS TODAY THAT'S KIND OF WHAT ONE OF OUR GOALS IS WITH DART TRANSFORM. GREAT. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS WHEN YOU WERE OUTLINING THE RIDERSHIP FOR DALLAS IN EXCESS OF $10 MILLION AND THE WHOLE SYSTEM IN EXCESS OF $14 MILLION. I THINK THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO SAY.

MORE THAN 70% OF IT IS COMING FROM DALLAS. AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.

LIKE, WHY DO YOU THINK DALLAS HAS SO MUCH RIDERSHIP COMPARED TO THE OTHER AREAS? OR CONVERSELY, WHY DO THEY HAVE SO LITTLE COMPARED TO DALLAS? SO I'M GOING TO DEFER TO ROB SMITH, BUT JUST FOR JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE RIGHT NUMBERS HERE.

SO IT'S 42.3 MILLION RIDES IN FY 24 FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND 55.6 MILLION RIDES FOR FY 20 FY 24 FOR THE SYSTEM. SO I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO I THINK IT WAS SLIDE 14 AND 15.

I THINK MAYBE YOU MEAN 12 AND 13 OR MAYBE 12.

12 AND 11. SORRY. KEEP GOING. OKAY. SO HERE WE GO.

I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE QUARTER. I APOLOGIZE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CORRECTION. SO IF YOU JUST LOOK AT FISCAL YEAR 24 QUARTER 4, THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS.

IT'S THE SAME PERCENTAGE. I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY YOU THINK THERE'S SO MUCH MORE RIDERSHIP IN DALLAS COMPARED TO THE OTHER AREAS. WELL, I THINK THE STORY OF THAT RIDERSHIP IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED AFTER THE PANDEMIC.

THE ONE GROUP THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN COME BACK TO TRANSIT IN THE LEVELS WE HAD BEFORE WERE THE TRADITIONAL 8 TO 5 OR 9 TO 5 WORK COMMUTES. AND YOU SEE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON DALLAS'S SHARE, 76% OF OUR RIDERSHIP IN FISCAL 24 WAS CITY OF DALLAS. BUT ON LIGHT RAIL, IT WAS 81%.

IT USED TO BE ABOUT TWO THIRDS. AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE SUBURBAN COMMUTE MARKET HAS SHRUNK SIGNIFICANTLY, AND WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT GROUP COME BACK. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKOUT OF WEEKDAY VERSUS WEEKEND NUMBERS, IT REALLY IS NOTICEABLE COMPARED TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS WE'RE IN THE 70% RANGE FOR WEEKDAY RIDERSHIP.

OUR SUNDAY RIDERSHIP IS IN FACT HIGHER FOR THE MOST PART THAN IT WAS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

SO IT'S THAT COMMUTER GROUP THAT WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN BACK.

I THINK MOST OF THE OTHER RIDERS HAVE RETURNED.

AND SO AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO MANY YEARS PAST WHEN COVID BEGAN.

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THANK YOU. SO I HAVE IT DOWN AS SLIDE 16. I SEE THIS ONE IS 12, SO I'M ASSUMING IT'S FOUR BEYOND THIS ONE.

AND THIS IS ABOUT THE SATISFACTION. YES. SO I'M WONDERING YOU HAVE HAD A PRETTY GOOD INCREASE IN THESE LAST TWO YEARS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU NOTING THAT, BUT I'M WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED THE TWO YEARS PRIOR.

SO HOW HOW WOULD ONE GO FROM AN 80% SOMEWHAT SATISFIED TO 58, OR A 39% TO A 26 ALSO IN TWO YEARS? LIKE, DO YOU THINK THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE OF COVID OR IS THERE SOME OTHER EXPLANATION? SO I ARRIVED IN 2021, IN JULY, AND CERTAINLY COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC THERE WAS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AROUND FUNDING LEVELS. AND AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE UNCERTAINTY OF WHERE THE FUNDING WAS GOING TO COME FROM IMPACTED OUR ABILITY TO ALLOCATE THE DOLLARS TOWARDS THINGS LIKE SECURITY, CLEANLINESS AND RELIABILITY.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAD A VOLUNTARY RETIREMENT PROGRAM WHICH CAUSED US TO LOSE A TREMENDOUS NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. YOU KNOW WHO WHO LEFT WITH A LOT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE.

SO IT TOOK US A LITTLE WHILE TO GET BACK ON TRACK, NO PUN INTENDED.

AND SO WE'VE WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW TO DEPLOY OUR OPERATIONS DOLLARS IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE.

AND THE FOCUS ON SERVICE AVAILABILITY, SERVICE RELIABILITY HAS, I THINK, REALLY SHOWN SOME BENEFITS IN TERMS OF CUSTOMER SATISFACTION.

THE TRUTH IS, IS THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE TOLD US FOR A LONG TIME WHAT MATTERS MOST TO THEM AND AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART'S QUESTIONS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SECURITY, CLEANLINESS, RELIABILITY YOU KNOW, FREQUENCY YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT YOUR RIDE IS GOING TO BE THERE WHEN WE SAY IT'S GOING TO BE THERE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE REALLY IMPROVED BECAUSE WE'VE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE.

AND SO REALLY, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DELIVERING OVER 99% OF OUR SCHEDULED TRIPS.

AND SO THAT ACTUALLY MEANS A LOT TO OUR CUSTOMERS IN TERMS OF HOW WELL THEY CAN RELY ON DART TO GET TO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO.

WELL, I HAVE MY OWN GRIEVANCES WITH DART, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, THERE'S A LOT LESS OF CALLS COMING TO MY OFFICE AND PEOPLE TELLING ME THAT IT JUST THE BUS OR THE TRAIN JUST DIDN'T WELL, IT'S JUST ALWAYS THE BUS JUST DIDN'T SHOW UP.

SO I AGREE, RELIABILITY HAS CLEARLY GONE UP. MY NEXT QUESTION I SEE CHIEF CATO LEFT, BUT I HAD ASKED THE LAST TIME WE MET ABOUT HOSTING THE [INAUDIBLE] CRIME REPORTS AND I SEE ON THE WEBSITE THAT IT IS POSTED, BUT IT ONLY GOES TO THE YEAR 2022, AND I'M WONDERING ABOUT GETTING THOSE REPORTS FOR 2023 AND 2024.

I WILL LOOK TO MAKE SURE WE ADD THOSE. WE HAVE THOSE COMPLETED.

SO WE CAN WE CAN ADD THOSE. GREAT. THANK YOU.

AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT THE GOVERNANCE THAT I THINK IS COMING, THE DISCUSSION, BUT MANY OF THE OTHER CITIES HAVE DECLARED INTEREST IN ADDING SERVICES PROJECTS.

AND I THINK THAT WAS ALREADY BROUGHT UP. BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT WE'VE EVEN HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

AND I DON'T EVEN MEAN JUST WITH YOU, BUT EVEN AMONGST OURSELVES.

SO, CHAIR, I THINK THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO DO THAT.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRIKES ME IS ABOUT THE STREETCAR.

THIS IS WE ARE NOT A TRANSIT AGENCY, AND WE GIVE SO MUCH MONEY TO DART EVERY YEAR.

IT SEEMS TO ME THE ME THE STREETCAR SHOULD COME BACK TO YOU.

AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS INTERESTED IN EXPANDING THE STREETCAR WITHIN OUR MOST DENSE AREA DOWNTOWN AND SURROUNDING.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD TRADE FOR NOT DOING D2, WHICH WAS PROMISED ALONG WITH THE SILVER LINE.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AND INPUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE VICE CHAIR GRACEY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

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SO THAT'S MORE OF A REQUEST UNLESS YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. THE NCTCOG DID A COMPREHENSIVE BOARDING AND ALIGHTING SURVEY IN 2023, WHERE WE LOOKED AT THAT. AND I WILL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE, BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER THIS BECAUSE IT'S COME UP RECENTLY AND IT INVOLVES PLANO, 68% OF TRANSIT TRIPS IN THE CITY OF PLANO TO OR FROM ARE FROM DALLAS.

AND IN FACT, WITHIN PLANO, ONLY 10% OF THE RIDERS BOTH BOARD AND ALIGHT WITHIN PLANO, MOST 90% OF THE RIDERSHIP IS COMING FROM OTHER CITIES, MOST OF IT FROM DALLAS AND RICHARDSON.

AND SO YOU REALLY SEE ONE THING YOU CLEARLY SEE IS DALLAS RESIDENTS GOING TO SUBURBAN LOCATIONS FOR JOBS.

IT STANDS OUT, AND IT'S BECOME MORE PROMINENT AS JOB DEVELOPMENT IN PLACES LIKE LEGACY HAS BECOME SO IMPORTANT.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE DID ONE REPORT TO THE BOARD LAST YEAR, BUT THERE'S MORE DATA TO BE HAD ON THAT.

THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE SOME GUESTS HERE FROM THE COUNCIL, AND I'M VERY EXCITED THAT THEY'RE HERE.

I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND BAZALDUA. SO MR. BAZALDUA, IF YOU WANT TO GO FIRST AS DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, YOU'LL BE RIGHT AFTER HIM.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MR. BAZALDUA. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND I'LL ALSO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DO IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY.

I'M GLAD TO HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES. I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW.

OH, I'D LIKE TO ASK A KIND OF FOLLOW UP TO SOME QUESTIONS I'VE ASKED IN OTHER TIMES WHERE WE'VE BROUGHT US TOGETHER IN PARTICULAR WHEN IT COMES TO MENTAL HEALTH OUTREACH.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION AND THE WAY THAT I POSED THE QUESTION ABOUT A YEAR AGO WAS ASKING WHAT INITIATIVES YOU ALL ARE LOOKING TO DO TO WORK IN TANDEM WITH OUR RIGHT CARE.

OR EXPANDING POTENTIAL RESPONSE WITH, WITH SOME SORT OF SYSTEM LIKE WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH RIGHT CARE. WHERE ARE YOU ALL AT WITH THAT? YES, SIR.

WE COMPLETED THE ONE YEAR PILOT ON OUR MULTIDISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAM WHEN WE STARTED THAT PROGRAM, LIKE, RIGHT CARE, WE STARTED WITH A MENTAL HEALTH POLICE OFFICER, A POLICE OFFICER CERTIFIED AS A MENTAL HEALTH OFFICER BY THE STATE OF TEXAS.

THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING WE PAID FOR AND SENT THEM TO WITH THE CLINICAL LICENSED CLINICAL SOCIAL WORKERS AND DALLAS FIRE RESCUE PARAMEDICS.

SO MY GOAL WAS TO ADDRESS THE MENTAL ILLNESS ON OUR SYSTEM.

THOSE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS BECAUSE OUR NUMBER ONE ARREST CATEGORY EVERY MONTH WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE IN SEPTEMBER 22ND UNTIL JUST RECENTLY WAS EMERGENCY DETENTIONS. PEOPLE IN SUCH A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS, THEY WERE DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.

SO I KNEW WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THAT. THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO ADDRESS WAS THE NUMBER OF AMBULANCES THAT WE CALL BECAUSE OF THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ON OUR SYSTEM THAT ARE IN DISTRESS. AND SO THE PROGRAM WAS SET UP AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I REACHED OUT TO DALLAS AND THE LIEUTENANT OVER THE RIGHT CARE TEAM CAME OVER AND HELPED US SELECT OUR PERSONNEL OR SET UP OUR INTERVIEW PANEL SO WE COULD GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE SO WE COULD START THE PROGRAM.

SO WE FINISHED THE PILOT, AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO START ROLLING OUT WHAT WE WORKED ON THE ILA TOO, BECAUSE WE GO INTO 13 DIFFERENT CITIES AND 6 COUNTIES, AND WE USE PARKLAND CLINICIANS, THERE WERE SOME LEGAL THINGS WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT SYSTEM WIDE DURING THE PILOT.

IT WAS ONLY IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, FROM PEARL TO TO UNION STATION AND THEN FROM VICTORY TO BACHMAN.

SO ALONG THE GREEN LINE THERE AND THEN DOWNTOWN, ALL FOUR LINES GO THROUGH DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE KNEW IF WE COULD IMPACT THE THE MENTAL ILLNESS FOLKS AND THE FOLKS WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND FOLKS THAT WERE UNHOUSED ON THAT SECTION, WE COULD IMPACT THE WHOLE SYSTEM. THAT'S WHY WE STARTED THERE.

SO WE FINISHED THE PILOT. NOW WE'RE READY TO ROLL IT OUT TO THE WHOLE TO THE WHOLE SERVICE AREA.

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IT'S FALLEN DOWN TO AS FAR AS NUMBER THREE, BUT IT'S STILL IN THE IN THE TOP THREE BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE NETWORK THAT WE HAVE AND WHERE WE GO, WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF FOLKS IN CRISIS ON THE SYSTEM.

AND SO I LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF AMBULANCE CALLS THAT WE MAKE.

THAT NUMBER DIDN'T GO DOWN AT ALL, IT ACTUALLY INCREASED.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE PARAMEDICS ARE NO LONGER ON THE TEAM.

IT MY MY HOPE WAS THAT THEY COULD INTERVENE TO PREVENT US FROM CALLING AN AMBULANCE.

AND INSTEAD WE CALL MORE AMBULANCES. IF WE HAD THE EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION AS NEWTON'S THIRD LAW OF MOTION IS WHAT I HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH.

WE ACTUALLY DID THE OPPOSITE. WE CALL MORE AMBULANCES.

AND SO SO WE HAVE THAT DATA, AND I LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE CONTACT THE SAME PEOPLE AND LOOK AT THE DATA OF HOW MANY HOW MANY ARRESTS WE HAVE TO MAKE FOR CRIMINAL TRESPASS. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IF THEY'RE VIOLATING THE CODE OF CONDUCT AND THEY REFUSE TO LEAVE THE SYSTEM, THAT'S WHEN THEY END UP AS IN A CRIMINAL TRESPASS ARREST.

OKAY. I'D LOVE IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH DATA THAT'S NOT SO ANECDOTAL AND SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE SOME NUMBERS.

ONE OF THE BIG SUCCESSES THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PRIORITIZE FUNDING IN EXPANDING OUR RIGHT CARE WAS SEEING THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT WERE FREED UP FROM DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ABLE TO BE DESIGNATED TO OTHER, MORE PERTINENT ISSUES AND ONES THAT THAT OUR OFFICERS WERE EQUIPPED TO RESPOND TO.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE OR HEAR FROM YOU ALL ON WHAT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE, OF COURSE, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, ARE SOME HOTSPOT AREAS.

AND FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IT FROM A COLLEAGUE OF MINE AS WELL.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A MEETING WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE NECESSARY TO GET NARCAN IN Y'ALL'S ELEMENTS AND AT YOUR STATIONS.

WELL, WE HAVE NARCAN DEPLOYED. THE ISSUE IS THEY WANT TO PUT IN THE STATIONS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT NARCAN ISSUED TO MY OFFICERS AND MY FARE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.

I HAVE PERSONNEL ON THE SYSTEM EVERYWHERE. IT SHOULDN'T BE AN EITHER OR CHIEF TO TO BE FAIR.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT, BUT WHERE WE COULD SAVE LIVES IS WHERE I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE CAN SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT CONTINUING THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH DISD, WITH THE COUNTY, WITH EVERY OTHER STAKEHOLDER.

BUT IT SEEMS TO BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET Y'ALL TO THE TABLE TO GET THIS DONE.

I HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS. WE HAVE WE HAVE NARCAN, WE HAVE DEPLOYED IT.

WE HAVE SAVED LIVES. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT NARCAN.

THE WAY I READ THE LETTER, SIR, WAS THAT IT HAS TO BE IN THE STATION.

I DON'T WANT IT IN THE STATION. I WANT IT ON THE PEOPLE. THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT HAS TO BE EITHER OR WHY CAN'T IT BE AND? BECAUSE WE HAVE IT IN EVERY ONE OF OUR ELEMENTS, BUT ALSO IN EVERY ONE OF OUR CITY FACILITIES, BECAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE LUXURY OF KNOWING WHERE OVERDOSES ARE GOING TO OCCUR.

SO IF THIS IS BEING TAKEN AS A PRUDENT MEASURE, THEN IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT WHAT YOU OR I'S WANT IT'S ABOUT MAKING IT TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE PROGRAM THAT WE CAN. SO I'D APPRECIATE IF WE COULD GET MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION WITH OUR STRIKE FORCE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, WITH ALL OF THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED AND SEE IF WE CAN GET ON THE SAME PAGE THERE.

SO WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED. OKAY. DATA THAT OUR GFR HAS SHOWN IS THAT THERE ARE THE THE MOST FREQUENT HOTSPOTS THAT WE HAVE OF OVERDOSES.

ARE THE DART STATIONS. SO WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE TOGETHER, BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO WANTING TO SAVE THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THESE OVERDOSES, IT'S ALSO A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE FOR RIDERSHIP.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HEAR MOST FREQUENTLY FROM CONSTITUENTS OF MINE ON WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO RIDE THE TRAIN OR WHY THEY FEEL UNSAFE ON THE PLATFORMS IN CERTAIN AREAS.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS TO BE HIT HEAD ON.

AND I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL LIKE IT LIKE IT IS.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS A CONTINUATION OF WORKING IN SILOS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BREAK DOWN FROM OUR STRIKE FORCE.

SO HAPPY TO CARRY THIS OFFLINE WITH YOU AND HOPEFULLY SEE MORE PARTICIPATION WITH US MOVING FORWARD.

BUT THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH DART.

AND IT'S ALSO QUITE FRANKLY STRAINING RESOURCES FROM THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DALLAS FIRE RESCUE.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US HAVE MORE OF A COLLABORATION THERE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ SAID.

I LOVE SEEING THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THAT THAT'S A PLACE THAT YOU, YOU ALL AND US IN THE CITY CAN REALLY PARTNER AND REALLY MAKE SOME GREAT CHANGES.

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DEV, DID YOU TAKE THAT NOTE? AND BUT I BUT I ALSO WANT TO SEE THE EXPANSION OF THE STREETCAR.

I KNOW THAT YOU. IT'S ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED.

I'VE BEEN SHOUTING FROM THE ROOFTOPS ABOUT A SOUTH DALLAS LINE TO TO MAKE ACTUAL CONNECTIONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS CLOSING IN THE GAPS OF MOVING DALLAS SITES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL ARE OUR REGIONAL ENTITY, BUT I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MUCH MORE OF A FOCUS FOR US TO GET JUST AS YOU'VE MENTIONED, WE'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS SHOW THAT THERE'S A TREND GOING DOWNWARD OF OF COMMUTER RIDERSHIP.

AND SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE US CONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR, OUR POTENTIAL OF, OF HOW WE CAN REPROGRAM SOME OF THE RESOURCES AND MOST EFFECTIVELY IMPACT THE TRANSPORTATION THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE AND EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE, IF Y'ALL ARE ALREADY WORKING ON THIS, I DON'T MAKE IT TO ALL OF Y'ALL'S BOARD MEETINGS, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THAT THIS IS THE.

WITH ALL THAT I'VE TRAVELED AND ALL THE MASS TRANSIT THAT I USE, THIS IS THE EASIEST SYSTEM IN THE COUNTRY TO GET ON WITHOUT A TICKET.

AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT PRIORITIZATION IS HAPPENING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE TO NOT ONLY I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A MAKE OR BREAK OF THE BUDGET ON MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE, THE, THE DOLLARS, BUT EVEN THE DATA THAT YOU'RE GIVING US IS SKEWED.

BECAUSE IF WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT GET ON AND THAT DON'T HAVE A TICKET PURCHASED, OR WE HAVE A LACK OF OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE, THE TRAINS OR SPECIFICALLY THE TRAINS THAT AREN'T PAYING.

WHAT SYSTEM ARE YOU PUTTING IN PLACE FOR, LIKE TURNSTILES AND LOOKING? BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS THE COUNTRY. FROM THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE.

WE'VE WRITTEN 18,000 CITATIONS LAST YEAR FOR FARE EVASION.

WE REMOVED ANOTHER 24,000 PEOPLE FROM OUR SYSTEM FOR LACK OF PROPER FARE.

THEY'RE NOT HAVING FARE HAVING EXPIRED A TICKET.

SO WE WE HAVE FARE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WE DEPLOY EVERY DAY.

WE HAVE 100 TRANSIT SECURITY OFFICERS WE DEPLOY EVERY DAY. AND I HAVE POLICE OFFICERS WE DEPLOY EVERY DAY.

AND MY GOAL IS TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE OF THEM, OF THOSE THREE ON ONE OF EACH ONE OF OUR VEHICLES CHECKING FARE.

SO AS FAR AS FARE ENFORCEMENT, WE ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING THAT EACH AND EVERY DAY.

AND I HAVE THE NUMBERS TO SHOW THAT WE REMOVED 24,000 PEOPLE IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THE QUESTION WAS MORE TOWARDS YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN. I FEEL THAT THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAS SHOWN TO BE VITAL IN COMBATING THIS ISSUE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LACKING AND IT'S, QUITE FRANKLY, PUTTING THE BURDEN ON YOU AND YOUR FORCE TO ENFORCE.

YEAH. DEE LEGETT , CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE LOOK AT DART TRANSFORM AND WE REIMAGINE OUR STATIONS, WE'VE GOT TO TOUCH AT LEAST 23 STATIONS THROUGH THE DART TRANSFORM EFFORT, CITY PLACE BEING ONE OF THOSE. THERE'S THREE, THREE TYPES OF STATIONS WE'VE GOT TO CONSIDER OUR SUBSURFACE STATIONS OR ELEVATED STATIONS AND STATIONS, LIKE THROUGH THE HEART OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT THAT ARE AT GRADE.

IT IS EASIER TO TACKLE THE GRADE ELEVATED, THE GRADE SEPARATED STATIONS.

YOU CAN CLEARLY ISOLATE THE FLOW OF OF TRAFFIC.

IT'S THE AT GRADE STATIONS THAT BECOME MORE CHALLENGING.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GOOD EXAMPLES OF WHERE THEY HAVE RETROFITTED A CLOSED SYSTEM AND MADE IT STILL FEEL FRIENDLY AND PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE ENVIRONMENT, ESPECIALLY DEVELOPMENT FRIENDLY.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT CITY PLACE. THAT'S THE FIRST STATION WE'VE GOT TO TACKLE.

WE'RE MODERNIZING THE ESCALATORS, THE INCLINATOR.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EXTEND THE PLATFORMS TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW VEHICLES. THERE IS A SECURITY PLUS FARE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE OF MAKING SURE THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE IN PEOPLE ON THE PLATFORM DOWN BELOW ARE THE THE PEOPLE WORKING ON THE SYSTEM OR NEEDING TO TRAVEL ON THE SYSTEM.

THAT IS AN AREA WHERE WE THINK WE CAN EASILY START LOOKING AT FARE GATES.

THEN WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE WOULD DESIGN IT FOR ELEVATED STATIONS, AND THEN LAST WOULD BE THE HARDER ELEMENTS, WHICH IS OUR AT GRADE STATIONS. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO, IT WAS $100 MILLION EXERCISE.

IT IS LIKELY DOUBLE THAT AT THIS POINT. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT THAT WE ANTICIPATE TAKING A LOOK AT AS WE, AS WE IMPLEMENT DART TRANSFORM. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS CURRENTLY BUDGETED THOUGH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

YOU WILL HAVE THE FLOOR NEXT. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I RECOGNIZE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON IS HERE,

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU TO OUR DALLAS REPRESENTATIVES FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THIS BOARD.

SO THERE HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A BIT OF A BURR UNDER MY SADDLE.

SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO HELP ADDRESS THIS.

AND EVER SINCE I READ THE EDITORIAL FROM NOVEMBER 9TH, 2024, THAT BOARD MEMBER PATRICK KENNEDY WROTE AND WAS PUBLISHED IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS. IT'S CONCERNED ME BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THIS IS A EY REPORT.

I HEAR IT REFERENCED A LOT. AND HE POINTS OUT SOME WAYS THAT IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY FAIRLY REPRESENT WHAT DALLAS CONTRIBUTES TO THE OVERALL PICTURE. IT SEEMS LIKE THE REPORT WAS DISTILLED REALLY JUST FROM THE THE NUMBERS STRAIGHT UP NUMBERS VERSUS THE, THE TAX REVENUE THAT IS LOST ANNUALLY, WHICH YOU CAN SAY IT'S LOST, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S OUR CONTRIBUTION TOWARD DART AND TOWARD PUBLIC TRANSIT, WHICH AS THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN CITY IN AMERICA WE SHOULD NOT BE RUNNING FROM.

WE SHOULD BE EMBRACING AND AND GROWING WHAT WE DO.

SO THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT ARE POINTED OUT THAT I HOPE COLLEAGUES WILL REVISIT IT.

AND INDEED, I HOPE THE PUBLIC READS THIS AND I'M HAPPY TO POST IT WHEREVER I CAN.

BUT IT CALCULATES RAIL MILES AS EQUAL WHEN WE KNOW THAT DALLAS IS A DESTINATION FOR OUR WONDERFUL SPORTS TEAMS, FOR CONCERTS AND OTHER ATTRACTIONS. AND SO GOING TO THE FARTHEST POINT IN THE LINES OF ROWLETT OR PLANO OR WHATEVER MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME VALUE AS COMING TO THE AAC OR THEATER OR MUSEUMS IN DALLAS. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE RECTIFY THAT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT WAS REPRESENTED.

I KNOW THE SILVER LINE IS KIND OF ITS OWN ANIMAL, AND THAT WASN'T REPRESENTED HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S TIME TO REALLY GRASP WHERE THAT IS.

I KNOW THIS DOESN'T ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING, BUT IT WAS ESTIMATED THAT THE TAX EXEMPT PROPERTY WAS ABOUT 100 ACRES OF MAINTENANCE FACILITIES AND 200 ACRES OF SURFACE LOTS. AND WHILE THAT ISN'T THE BULK OF THAT'S IN DALLAS, I'M NOT SAYING THAT ALL IS IN DALLAS, BUT THE BULK OF THAT IS IN DALLAS. AND SO THAT IS TAX EXEMPT PROPERTY.

AND SO AGAIN, THAT IS A CONTRIBUTION, NOT JUST THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.

THAT IS A CONTRIBUTION THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE GIVING IN THE FORM OF THIS TAX EXEMPTION.

AND I THINK, MR. SMITH, YOU I MAY HAVE GOTTEN YOUR NUMBER WRONG, BUT I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE 60% OF THOSE DEBARKING IN PLANO ARE COMING FROM DALLAS, MAYBE FOR A JOB OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SURFACE, LOTS THAT WE'RE GIVING UP OUR TAX REVENUE ON IN DALLAS SO THAT FOLKS COULD GO PARK AND RIDE DART TO THEIR JOB IN PLANO.

I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT. WE WANT TO BE A BIG, VIBRANT, NORTH TEXAS COMMUNITY.

BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GIVE FROM DALLAS CITY OF DALLAS AND OUR TAXPAYERS.

AND SO I AM JUST CURIOUS WHERE THIS WENT AND WHETHER THERE'S ANY KIND OF FOOTNOTE OR INTERIM ADDENDUM KIND OF REPORT TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS. BECAUSE HONESTLY, AS IT STANDS, THAT'S JUST NOT A REPRESENTATION.

YET IT'S BEING CITED TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

AND AS THINGS ESCALATE AND I DON'T HAVE TO TELL ANYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT THEY'VE ESCALATED, SEEMS LIKE WE ALL NEED TO GET THE CARDS ON THE TABLE AND GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT ON THIS.

SO, MISS LEE, CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME HOW THIS CAN BE BETTER REPRESENTED FOR EVERYONE? YES. SO I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE EY STUDY THAT WAS DONE.

IT WAS A STUDY THAT WAS COMMISSIONED BY DART, PAID FOR BY DART AND BY AND LARGE DART STAFF OTHER THAN PROVIDING THE DATA THAT WENT INTO THE METHODOLOGY AND AND TO THE ANALYSIS OUR STAFF WAS NOT INVOLVED, NOR WAS THE BOARD REALLY INVOLVED IN THAT STUDY.

THE CITIES WERE INVOLVED. THEY PARTICIPATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE METHODOLOGY.

IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT EY IS NOT A VERY REPUTABLE FIRM.

I KNOW THAT'S BEEN SOME OF THE RHETORIC THAT WE'RE ATTACKING THEIR REPUTATION, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT IT'S THE THE REPORT ITSELF HAS TO BE QUALIFIED BY THE FACT THAT THERE WAS NO THERE THERE WAS REALLY NOT ANY INPUT FROM DART STAFF ON WHETHER OR NOT THE METHODOLOGY MADE SENSE.

BECAUSE AS YOU POINTED OUT THERE'S A VALUE TO BEING CONNECTED TO THE SYSTEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO THE VARIOUS FACILITIES WHERE WE MAINTAIN OUR VEHICLES AND WE, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE TOTAL COST OR VALUE OF OF THOSE FACILITIES SHOULD BE SHOULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO DALLAS ALONE BECAUSE THERE'S A SYSTEM

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I KNOW THERE WAS AN INTENT TO BE ABLE TO REPLICATE THE EY STUDY IN THE FUTURE.

HOWEVER, I THINK DART STAFF AT LEAST WOULD SUGGEST THAT PERHAPS WE NEED TO DO SOME REFINEMENTS TO THE METHODOLOGY IN THE FUTURE TO MORE ACCURATELY DESCRIBE THE VALUE OF THOSE VARIOUS SYSTEM WIDE ELEMENTS TO EACH OF THE CITIES.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, IF YOU DON'T MIND I KNOW THAT TWO BOARD MEMBERS WANTED TO ALSO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. I MEAN, IT'S YOUR YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

NO I WANT TO ANSWER. OKAY. VERY GOOD.

MEANING, LIKE DALLAS TAXPAYER WALLETS. AND SO YOU KNOW, FOR WORKING ON METHODOLOGY, I DON'T I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

I DON'T I MEAN, MAYBE THERE'S A NEW PROVIDER THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHO WOULD UNDERSTAND MORE AROUND THAT METHODOLOGY TO START WITH AND NOT INVOLVING OR DOING SOME BASELINE LEVEL OF FACT FINDING. I HAVEN'T REALLY EVER EXPERIENCED THAT WHERE THERE'S NOT AT LEAST SOME CURSORY HEY, WHAT APPROACH WOULD YOU TAKE WHETHER YOU DECIDED TO GO WITH THAT OR NOT.

I MEAN, THAT'S BASIC FACT FINDING. SO I THAT THAT GIVES ME A LITTLE MORE HEARTBURN TO KIND OF HEAR THAT ASPECT OF IT.

BUT NOW, YES, I'M WILLING TO HEAR FROM OTHERS ON THAT.

YEAH. MR. CHAIR. COUNCILWOMAN GAY DONNELL WILLIS, THANKS FOR BRINGING UP THAT STUDY.

I'VE BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF THAT STUDY PUBLICLY.

IN ESSENCE, I THINK THAT THAT STUDY PROVIDES A VERY ELABORATE ANSWER TO THE WRONG QUESTION.

IT'S A SNAPSHOT IN TIME. THE WRONG QUESTION IS, AM I GETTING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT I'M PAYING FOR? IT'S AS IF I WERE TO SAY, I, I'M PAYING A MONTHLY, I PAY MONTHLY PAYMENT ON MY CAR.

AM I GETTING THE NUMBER OF RIDES OR FOR THE NUMBER OF RIDES I DO A MONTH, IS IT WORTH THE PAYMENT THAT I'M MAKING? IN FACT, THERE'S A LOT MORE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE VALUE IS THAT AS A CITY OR SO YOU GET, YOU GET INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMIC GROWTH AND SO FORTH. AND IT'S BEEN POINTED OUT BEFORE THAT THE CORRECT WAY TO DO THIS ANALYSIS IS FOR 20 YEAR TERM, NOT A SNAPSHOT IN TIME. I FIND IT I'M PERSONALLY VERY CONCERNED THAT THAT THAT STUDY AND THE, THE QUESTION THAT IT ANSWERS HAPPENS TO FIT PERFECTLY THE NARRATIVE THAT PLANO HAD LONG BEFORE WE HIRED THEM FOR THE STUDY.

SO IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT THAT STUDY IS BEING USED.

MOST PEOPLE JUST LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE, WHICH IS A CHART THAT SHOWS THAT PLANO PAYS MORE THAN THE SERVICE THAT THEY'RE GETTING. AND I'M CONCERNED THAT IT'S BEING USED AS A VEHICLE OF MISINFORMATION WITH LEGISLATURES AND SO FORTH.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY POINT ON THAT, AND I REALLY THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT.

WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT. CHAIR. THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY THINK COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, WHAT YOU HAVE RAISED AND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA RAISED ACTUALLY HAVE A TIGHT CONNECTION. I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE BOARD, AND SEVERAL OF US HAVE INQUIRED ABOUT THIS SINCE THEN.

WE HAVE AN OPEN SYSTEM AS OPPOSED TO WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING, COUNCIL MEMBER, WHICH IS A CLOSED SYSTEM IN, SAY, CHICAGO OR OTHER MAJOR CITIES. AND AS A RESULT TO WHAT ROB SAID, IT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE GOOD INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND WHERE SOMEONE STARTS AND WHERE THEY END. WHICH LEADS TO THE EY STUDY. THE EY STUDY BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS GENERATED AT THE REQUEST OF THE BOARD.

IT WAS DONE TO REMEDY A DIFFERENT PROBLEM, WHICH WAS RAISED IN THE LEGISLATURE TWO SESSIONS AGO, WHICH WAS A REQUEST BY PLANO AND THEN BY OTHER MEMBERS OF DART, OTHER CITY MEMBERS, TO HAVE A BETTER ACCOUNTING OF DOLLARS IN VERSUS DOLLARS OUT.

HOW MUCH IS OUR SALES TAX CONTRIBUTION, THAT'S CLEAR FROM THE COMPTROLLER.

AND WHAT IS THE SERVICE WE GET FOR IT. AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, THE METHODOLOGY ON THAT BECOMES CRITICAL.

RIGHT. IT'S LIKE ANY STATISTICS, YOU CAN ADJUST THE NUMBERS.

NOW IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE REPORT, THERE'S TWO VERSIONS OF IT, NOT TWO VERSIONS.

THERE'S THE VERSION AND THEN THERE'S THE FINAL VERSION. I HAVE A COPY HERE, I BROUGHT IT.

EY IS GOOD FIRM, AND I THINK THEY HAD THE INTENTION TO DO THE BEST THEY COULD DO.

SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT THEIR CREDIBILITY. AS NADINE LEE POINTED OUT, TO SOLVE FOR LEGISLATIVE CONCERNS AND MEMBER CITY CONCERNS, THE PROJECT WAS DONE AT THE AUSPICES OF THE DART BOARD, FUNDED BY DART, BUT WITH SOME DEGREE OF INDEPENDENCE, EVERY MEMBER CITY WAS INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN NOT ONE, BUT SEVERAL WORKSHOPS TO DISCUSS THE METHODOLOGY AND THE OBJECTIVES AND DALLAS WAS

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I THINK THERE MAY HAVE BEEN OTHER FOLKS FROM THE DALLAS STAFF WHO PARTICIPATED. WE KNEW GOING INTO IT THAT DEPENDING ON HOW YOU SET THE FRAMEWORK WOULD DRIVE TO ENRIQUE'S POINT A DIFFERENT OUTCOME. SO AN OPEN SYSTEM, RIGHT? SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING ON AND GETTING OFF. WE CAN MAKE SOME GOOD ASSUMPTIONS, BUT IT'S NOT PERFECT. COUPLED WITH THE IDEA THAT IT'S A SNAPSHOT IN TIME, WHICH GETS TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, THAT IT EXCLUDED BOTH THE CAPITAL AND THE O&M ON THE SILVER LINE.

SO REMEMBER, NOW YOU SEE HOW COMPLEX THIS GETS.

SO WE END UP WITH IS AN EFFORT BY EY WITH INPUT FROM THE 13 CITIES, TO COME UP WITH SOME WAY TO CALCULATE THE VALUE OF THE SERVICE AND THE ASSETS. AT A SINGLE POINT IN TIME BEFORE SILVER LINE IS CONTEMPLATED, EVEN BEFORE THE COST OF BUILDING SILVER LINE, IT'S AS THOUGH SILVER LINE DOESN'T EXIST. AND WHAT YOU END UP WITH IS THE RESULTS THAT SHOW SOME CITIES ARE DONEES AND SOME CITIES ARE DONORS.

AND IF YOU PLAY THAT OUT FURTHER TO ENRIQUE'S POINT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE ANYONE HAS ILL INTENT.

IT CAN BE USED AS A GALVANIZING CRY TO SAY WE HAVE INEQUALITY.

SO THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE, AND I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IN A MOMENT FROM CHAIR SLAGEL, IS, IT SEEMS TO ME THREE THINGS. WE HAVE A GOVERNANCE ISSUE, WHICH WE DISCUSSED WITH THIS COMMITTEE TWO YEARS AGO, WHICH IS SALES TAX VERSUS REPRESENTATION. THEN WE HAVE A DOLLARS IN DOLLARS OUT PROBLEM, WHICH IS I'M NOT GETTING WHAT I'M PAYING FOR.

AND THEN WE HAVE A ASSUMPTIONS OR POINT IN TIME PROBLEM WHICH IS SILVER LINE WASN'T CONTEMPLATED.

AND IF YOU ADD IN SILVER LINE WHICH A FEW OF US HAVE DONE WITH THE PENCIL AGAINST A CALCULATOR, SO IT'S NOT PRECISE, THE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE DRAMATICALLY.

IT MAY STILL NOT SATISFY SOME OF THE SUBURBAN MEMBERS, BUT THE CITIES THAT ARE SHOWING AS BEING MORE I PUT IN MORE THAN I GET WILL NOT BE AS OUT OF BALANCE WHEN YOU ADD IN SILVER LINE, BOTH FROM A CAPITAL DEBT SERVICE AND AN O&M PERSPECTIVE.

SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR THAT, THAT HISTORY. BUT THE WAY THAT YOU PHRASED THAT, WHERE IT WAS ASKED FOR AS DOLLARS IN, DOLLARS OUT. SO THE DISTINCTION IS WHAT'S THIS DOLLAR? I MEAN IS IT THE LITERAL DOLLAR OR IS IT THE VALUE THAT DALLAS CONTRIBUTES IN THIS TAX EXEMPT LAND THAT WE ARE NOT BEING WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GENERATE REVENUE ON AND I THINK THAT SHOULD COUNT. I THINK OUR TAXPAYERS WOULD THINK THAT SHOULD COUNT.

I THINK IN THIS ROOM WE THINK THAT SHOULD COUNT.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE DONEES AND DONORS.

AND SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE NEED TO BE SURE WE'RE KEEPING THESE, THE VALUE OF THIS IN FRONT OF OUR LEGISLATORS, BECAUSE THAT GAP MAY BE SMALLER. SO WHEN YOU WALK IN AND YOU SHOW THIS BIG GAP IN DALLAS GETS ALL THIS AND THEY'RE NOT GIVING AS MUCH AND ALL THAT.

IT'S ACTUALLY SMALLER BECAUSE THE GIVE IS DIFFERENT.

IT'S JUST NOT IN THAT LITERAL PENNY. IT IS, YOU KNOW, THAT PART OF THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GIVING UP.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW A FEW OF US HAVE ALREADY SAID IS WE NEED TO ENGAGE EY TO DO A REFRESH THAT REFLECTS AT LEAST TWO THINGS.

FIRST, THE IMPACT OF SILVER LINE. AND THE SECOND IS WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE ASSUMPTION OVERSIGHT, BECAUSE WHAT PATRICK COVERED IN HIS MORNING NEWS OP ED, WHICH WAS FACTUALLY, IT SEEMS TO ME, CORRECT, WE SHOULD HAVE CAPTURED THAT BEFORE WE CHARGED EY TO THE STUDY, BECAUSE THE 13 CITIES WOULD ALL SAY THEY HAVE SOME SALES TAX, EXCUSE ME, PROPERTY TAX CONSIDERATIONS. TO YOUR POINT, DALLAS HAS MORE, BUT EFFECTIVELY WE COULD REFRESH THE REPORT WITH THE INSIGHTS OF WHAT WE LEARNED THAT WE MISSED. AND AS WELL FAST FORWARD TO INCLUDE SILVER LINE, WHICH WILL BE OPERATIONAL IN A YEAR OR A YEAR AND A HALF.

WELL, I MEAN, WE'RE IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION NOW.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FORMAL OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE SHARED WITH OUR LEGISLATORS.

I MEAN, IF WE NEED A SPEED PASS ON SOMETHING, I DON'T WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF WAITING FOR YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE METHODOLOGY AGAIN. AND I STILL WOULD SAY THAT THIS VENDOR WOULD HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, OR AT LEAST HAVE SOMETHING IN AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OR IN SOME SORT OF SETUP.

HOWEVER, I JUST IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO SHOW.

AND EVEN IF IT'S THIS EDITORIAL, BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S MORE FORMAL, THEY COULD JUST SAY, HERE'S WHERE WE TAKE ISSUE WITH THIS, OR WE FEEL LIKE THIS PORTRAYS A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE.

I JUST THINK THAT WOULD SERVE US BETTER. SO I'M THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, ASPECTS OF THIS PRESENTATION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT LETTING OUR FOOT OFF THE GAS ON AWARENESS AROUND THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. AND BEFORE I'M GOING TO MAKE ONE COMMENT ON ALL OF THIS, I WILL SAY THAT ON THIS EY STUDY, I KNOW A KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT IT THAN I WAS EVER EXPECTING TO KNOW ABOUT IT.

WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, BEING DONE.

IT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW. IT BELONGS TO DART. AND LIKE I ALWAYS TELL OUR DART BOARD MEMBERS, I TRUST YOU IN YOUR DECISIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING.

YOU ALL HAVE ALL THE FACTS. I DON'T I DON'T GO TO YOUR MEETINGS.

I DON'T GET ALL THE BACKUP MATERIAL AND ALL OF THAT.

SO I HAVE TO TRUST THE BOARD MEMBERS. BUT A ND THIS IS NO FAULT ON DART EITHER.

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PROBABLY WAS A BIG BULLYING TACTIC IN ORDER TO MAKE DART NOT JUST ASK FOR IT, BUT THEN Y'ALL HAD TO PAY FOR IT AND THEN STAY OUT OF IT. AND THEN THE CITIES WERE KIND OF JUST ASKED FOR SOME METHODOLOGY, PROBABLY NOT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE PUTTING INTO IT.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE STAFF HERE THAT KNEW ABOUT IT, EXCEPT FOR WHAT FEW WORDS I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, A A CFO, WAS IT, WHO WAS THERE? SO IF YOU KNOW AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE THAT LIST, IF YOU CAN GET THAT LIST TO US, OF WHICH WHICH CITY OF DALLAS STAFF WERE THERE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

BUT WHAT I WILL SAY ON THIS THIS TOOL THAT ENDED UP BEING CREATED IS IT WAS A SETUP, DART BOARD UNFORTUNATELY FELL FOR IT AND YOU GOT TRAPPED. AND THE ONLY ENTITY THAT IS SUFFERING IS DART AS WELL AS THE CITY OF DALLAS.

BECAUSE EVERYWHERE YOU GO, THESE MEMBER CITIES THAT ASKED THAT WANTED IT, ALL THEY'RE DOING IS HOLDING IT UP AND SAYING, WE DON'T GET ENOUGH, WE DON'T GET ENOUGH. AND IT'S AND IT'S LIKE, AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO COMBAT IT EXCEPT FOR OUR WORDS AND WE CAN SHOW SOME THINGS.

BUT AND THAT'S THE HARD PART. SO I'M NOT I'M NOT LIKE LECTURING OR ANYTHING.

I APOLOGIZE IF I AM. I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT IT OUT THERE EDITORIAL WISE, WHAT'S GOING ON, BECAUSE I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANY COMMENT BACK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING AND YOU KNOW, BUT AND YOU ALL ARE STUCK SAYING WHAT YOU CAN AND TRYING TO DEFEND IT.

AND THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND GO, BUT YOU PAID FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE. AND THEN IT'S LIKE, AND WE'RE STUCK.

AND I EXACTLY AGREE. TAKING THE TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, WHATEVER THAT SNAPSHOT WAS, WHEN YOU COMPARE IT FOR DART AS A WHOLE.

AND LET'S START, IF WE WANT TO DO APPLES FOR APPLES AND START ABOUT OUR DOLLARS AND LIKE WHAT MISS COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS IS TALKING ABOUT AND THE ACTUAL INVESTMENT THAT THAT HAS BEEN MADE INTO DART, WHEN DART WAS CREATED, THE CITY OF DALLAS FOOTED THE BILL FOR PROBABLY I MEAN, I CAN'T GIVE A PERCENTAGE, BUT PROBABLY THE VAST, VAST MAJORITY OF BUILDING IT OUT, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS RAIL HAVING THE FUNDING AND WE WERE PROBABLY GETTING THE LEAST BACK. YOU KNOW, IT WAS PROBABLY WAY OPPOSITE.

AND THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT'S A REGIONAL SYSTEM.

AND WE UNDERSTOOD BACK THEN I WASN'T AROUND. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN DART WAS CREATED, IT WAS LIKE, BUT IT WAS LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

AND WE UNDERSTOOD IT AS A CITY LIKE, YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET AS MUCH BACK. AND LET ME TELL YOU, BACK THEN, SOME OF THESE MEMBER CITIES WERE FARM TOWNS, FARM TOWNS.

AND NOW YOU LOOK YOU LOOK AT THEM AND THEY ARE METROPOLISES LIKE IT'S NOT THE SIZE OF DALLAS, BUT THEY ARE MAJOR MEDIUM SIZED CITIES. AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH GROWING PAINS, WHICH THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS BEEN THROUGH THEM AS WELL.

AND THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE TO DO THIS TO DO IT RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO DO IT ALL THE WAY. AND THERE'S NOT ONE THING TO POINT AT AND GO, OH, WE DON'T HAVE TURNSTILES OR OH, WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS OR OH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT OR WE DIDN'T GET, WE DIDN'T GET, WE DON'T HAVE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT DALLAS STILL WANTS, YOU KNOW.

AND THAT'S WHY WE PARTNER WITH YOU GUYS. WE'RE PARTNERS.

AND TO HAVE SOME AN ENTITY, ANOTHER CITY LIKE PLANO THAT'S WAIVING THIS VERY, EXTREMELY FLAWED REPORT OUT AND ATTACKING DART IN ORDER TO GET A CHEAP WAY OF GETTING FUNDING BACK IS JUST IT'S IT'S REPREHENSIBLE, IN MY OPINION.

BUT I DON'T REPRESENT THE CITY OF PLANO. I CAN'T GO TELL THE CITY OF PLANO ANYTHING.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME WHO WILL, AND THEY'LL GO HELP THEM AND GIVE THEM INFORMATION AND DO ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS COMPLETELY HEINOUS IN MY OPINION, BUT IT'S WHAT IT IS, SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

SO ABOUT THE EY REPORT. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITY OF DALLAS AND COLLEAGUES, HOW WE PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, WHICH WE DO, THE CITY OF DALLAS DID VOTE, AND OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA SAYS WE WANT FULLY FUNDING FOR DART.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THIS INFORMATION OUT THAT'S ACCURATE AND CORRECT, SO THAT WE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING WE CAN WAVE AND SAY WE'RE GETTING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GET, YOU ALL HAVE GOTTEN WAY MORE OR, YOU KNOW, OR IT IS EQUAL I BUT HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER BECAUSE WE NEED MORE THAN A SNAPSHOT. SO I WANT, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MY AND I'M SURE YOU ALL DO AS BOARD MEMBERS AND I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW AS DART WANT TO HAVE YOUR THIS IS THE ACTUAL LIKE THE REALNESS.

THIS IS THE FOR REAL AND NOT THE FAKE SNAPSHOT THAT HAS BEEN MANIPULATED IN ORDER TO HELP A FEW CITIES THAT DECIDED THAT THEY NEEDED TO, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE GOING UGH WE'RE SHORT ON OUR BUDGETS.

THIS THIS IS A CHEAP WAY TO GET FUNDING, WHICH IS TO DESTROY A MAJOR ENTITY, A NON-GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY THAT WE ARE THAT WE ARE PARTNERS WITH.

AND IT WOULD BE TO THE DETRIMENT OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF STRONG FEELINGS YOU CAN TELL ABOUT THIS EY REPORT, BUT IT'S JUST THE TRUTH ON IT SO FOR ME, COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON.

THANK YOU. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR NOW. GOSH, THAT WAS A LOT.

AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I KNOW YOU'RE NOT FEELING WELL, SO THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S ALL GOING AROUND.

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AND I THINK I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WANTS TO BE YOUR PARTNER.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR GETTING AFTER 2 OR 3 MONTHS, THE MEETING ON THE BOOKS FOR FENTANYL TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH NARCAN.

THERE'S ONE IN MY DISTRICT, LOVER'S LANE STATION, THAT WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY, AND THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF HOMELESS DO CONGREGATE.

AND SO WE JUST WANT TO BE PARTNERS IN THIS, BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO, WE'RE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR TO BE THE THIRD LARGEST REGION.

AND WE HAVE A FRAGMENTED SYSTEM FOR FOR OUR TRANSIT.

AND IT'S AND I'M LIKE, MISS SCHULTZ, I TAKE WHEN I LAND, I LEARN, I GET ON A TRAIN, I GET ON A BUS.

BECAUSE THAT IS HOW YOU UNDERSTAND THE FABRIC OF A COMMUNITY.

OKAY. I USED TO WORK AT DART. I BELIEVE IN THE MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM.

BUT I BELIEVE ALSO TOO, THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FROM A TO B AS YOU AND WHAT WE WANT B TO LOOK LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO TRULY HAVE TO BE PARTNERS. AND SO IT IS NICE TO SEE YOUR FACES HERE SITTING.

PLEASE KNOCK ON OUR DOORS. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO, WE WANT TO HELP.

SO WE DO HAVE A NARCAN MEETING SET AND CATO, I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY GETTING PTSD SITTING THERE FROM THIS BUILDING, SO WELCOME BACK HOME. AND SO THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US.

AND SO AND THAT'S AND I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A SCAR TISSUE AROUND SOME OF THIS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE ALL COME FROM THE PLACE OF WANTING TO CAUSE HARM. WE REALLY DO WANT TO BE PARTNERS.

AND IF WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS, THAT IS A KEY WORD.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, MR. BAZALDUA I THINK IT'S PROBABLY AT THE END OF THE MONTH, THE FIRST OF NEXT MONTH, THAT WE'RE HAVING OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

AND AND WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE NARCAN, EVERYBODY'S GOT NARCAN, BUT WE WANT TO DEPLOY IT IN A BETTER AND MORE TARGETED, MEANINGFUL WAY THAN JUST HOPING THAT SOMEBODY KNOCKS ON YOUR BUS DOOR OR ON THE, ON THE WINDOW OF YOUR, OF YOUR ELEMENT TO SAY, CAN YOU HELP ME? AND SO TO BE MORE PROACTIVE, MAYBE EVEN WITH SOME EDUCATIONAL PIECES THAT ARE THERE OR WHATNOT.

SO THAT WAS REALLY IT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S 2:39 AND YOU'VE GOT A FULL AGENDA.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE'RE ACTUALLY WAITING FOR OUR NEXT SPEAKER ANYWAY BECAUSE [INAUDIBLE].

OH, THERE HE IS. SO WE'LL GET ON IT, MR. MORRIS.

SO WE'RE ALMOST DONE. I THINK I'M THE I'M THE LAST ONE.

AND SO I'M GOING TO GIVE MYSELF THE FLOOR NOW FOR A FEW MINUTES.

BUT I'LL GO QUICKLY. I THINK I DID MOST OF MY RANT A LITTLE EARLIER.

AND I STAND BY IT 100% ON DART ON FROM THE FROM THE THINGS I'VE HEARD AND FROM THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE UNDER THE WEATHER, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US ALL PROTECTED BY WEARING YOUR MASK, THAT SHOWS I'M ADMIRABLE OF YOU FOR DOING THAT.

AND AND EVERYBODY SHOULD TAKE NOTE WHEN THEY ARE FEELING ILL DO EXACTLY LIKE THE CEO FOR DART IS DOING AT THIS TIME.

THE ONE THING I WANTED TO SAY WAS ON THE TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS SOMETHING NEW, IT'S A NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH DART AND THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND I KNOW THAT SOME OF OUR MEMBER CITIES HAVE ASKED, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GO THAT ROUTE AND ABSOLUTELY, THAT'S WE SHOULD ALL BE WORKING ON IT. AND I THINK THIS IS JUST THE NEXT ITERATION OF DART.

AND SOME OF US HAD THE DISTINCT PRIVILEGE TO GET TO GO TO THE COUNTRY OF JAPAN AND GET TO CHECK OUT IT WAS FOR HIGH SPEED RAIL, BUT IT WAS VERY MUCH IN TUNE WITH LIGHT RAIL.

COMMUTER RAIL, YOU KNOW, EVEN UBER OR, YOU KNOW, RIDESHARE AND I MEAN, EVERY SINGLE TYPE OF, OF TRANSPORTATION FROM MICRO MOBILITY ON UP TO HIGH SPEED RAIL, ALL GO INTO CERTAIN STATIONS AND ALL CONNECT IN THOSE STATIONS.

AND IT WAS JUST MIND BLOWING TO SEE WHAT THIS WAS IN THE CITY OF NAGOYA, WHAT TOD CAN BE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS A LITTLE OVERWHELMED WHEN I FIRST SAW IT BECAUSE I'M LIKE, I HOPE THIS IS NOT WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS EXPECTING IF, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH SOME OF OUR TODS THAT WE'RE STARTING, BUT YOU GOT TO START SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? AND GET THIS INTERCONNECTIVITY HAPPENING, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I SEE ALL THE TIME.

SO WITH TOD, I HAVE ALSO MENTIONED TO SOME OF OUR MEMBER CITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY, IT DID NOT IT WAS NOT LIKE A SNAP AND CITY OF DALLAS AND DART GOT IT OVERNIGHT. IT TOOK DART A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE THIS IS NOT DART'S WHEELHOUSE.

IT'S NOT WHAT TRANSPORTATION ENTITIES TYPICALLY DO, WHICH IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS AND AND TRANSPORTATION IN MY BRAIN. AND THE WAY I THINK, IS THEY'RE ONE IN THEY'RE ONE AND ONE AND THE OTHER.

THEY ARE THE SAME THING. BUT IT'S HOW DO WE BRING YOU ALL IN? AND WE HAVE AND IT TOOK US A WHILE, BUT WE GOT THERE AND WE BROKE GROUND ON OUR FIRST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABOUT TO DO OUR SECOND OR THIRD OR FOURTH AND YOU KNOW, AND I MENTIONED TO THESE MEMBERS LIKE, HEY, IF Y'ALL NEED HELP, THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL BE HAPPY TO HELP.

I MEAN, YOU ALL UNDERSTAND IT NOW. WE WE WE ARE JUST ADVANCED ON IT.

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I SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 70 YEARS AHEAD OF US THERE IN THE COUNTRY OF JAPAN AND IN THESE CITIES.

SO THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TODAY, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S LIKE BUT ALSO ARE THE DIFFERENCES THAT WE HAVE.

SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TOD AND HOW IT'S ADVANCING WITH DARKNESS OR IS OR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, JUST. SO YOU WANT ME TO TALK ABOUT TOD IN JAPAN OR IN THE UNITED STATES? NO, NO NO, NO [LAUGHTER] I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE COUNTRY OF JAPAN.

I WAS JUST USING THAT AS A REFERENCE BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS JUST WOW.

SO SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN ANSWER WHAT I THINK IS YOUR QUESTION, AND THEN CERTAINLY DEE WILL JUMP IN AS NEEDED.

SO TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY HERE IN OUR REGION, MAINLY BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF WHAT I WOULD REFER TO AS A LOT OF SPACE THAT IS INACTIVE. RIGHT? WE JUST HAVEN'T LEVERAGED THE LAND AS MUCH AS WE COULD, PARTIALLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR REGION SEEMS TO WANT TO BUILD TOWARDS THE OKLAHOMA BORDER.

SO LAND IS PLENTIFUL AND CHEAP. HOWEVER IN CITIES LIKE DALLAS THAT I THINK REALLY WANT TO PROVIDE SOME DENSITY WHERE DENSITY MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

I THINK THERE'S SOME ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO REALLY PROVIDE THAT DENSITY NEAR THE TRANSIT STOPS WHERE WHERE IT MAKES SENSE TO BUILD DENSITY, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU WANT TO HAVE YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS AND RETAIL SERVICES THAT CAN SUPPORT THOSE RESIDENTS RIGHT AT THE LOCATION WHERE THE TRANSIT STOP IS.

AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN I LIVED IN LOS ANGELES, I LITERALLY LIVED ABOVE THE SEVENTH, THE METRO STATION. SO WHEN I WOULD GO ANYWHERE I WAS IN DOWNTOWN, I WOULD GO I WOULD LITERALLY WALK DOWNSTAIRS AND GET ON THE SUBWAY AND HEAD INTO WORK.

AND IT WAS LIKE THREE STOPS. THAT WAS IT. AND I WOULD BE AT WORK IN LIKE 15 MINUTES IN LOS ANGELES, OF ALL PLACES. SO SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS TO TRANSIT AND PROVIDING THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT THAT GIVE PEOPLE ACCESS TO THOSE SERVICES IN AN EASY AND CONVENIENT WAY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO IMAGINE WHAT'S POSSIBLE IN OUR CITIES.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SIX SITES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THERE ARE MORE SITES AROUND THE SERVICE AREA, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT I THINK THE MORE WE THINK ABOUT ACTIVATING THOSE SPACES AND MAKING THEM PRODUCTIVE FOR THE CITIES WHERE THEY RESIDE, I THINK THERE'S GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR US TO REALLY LEVERAGE WHAT WE HAVE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS ABOUT PARTNERSHIP.

I THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON. WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE.

YOU GUYS CAN'T DO IT ALONE. YOU ALL HAVE LAND USE AUTHORITY.

WE HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT OF THINGS.

THE IDEA BEHIND THE STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIPS PIECE OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS NOT TO MOVE THE COSTS FROM ONE CITY'S BOTTOM LINE TO DART'S BOTTOM LINE OR THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

IT'S TO LEVERAGE OUR RESOURCES AND PULL THEM TOGETHER TO DO MORE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY WORKING ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO THAT, BECAUSE NOT A SINGLE ONE OF US HAS ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THINGS AS FAST AS WE WANT THEM.

BUT IF WE WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN GET GET THERE SOONER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I COMPLETELY AGREE. AND I THINK THAT WE'VE BUILT A MUCH STRONGER PARTNERSHIP.

AND, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU CAME, CAME ON BOARD.

AND THAT JUST IS A TESTAMENT TO WHAT CAN BE DONE WHEN WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.

AND WE DIDN'T USED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND IT WAS JUST STARTED AND, YOU KNOW.

YEAH, SOMETIMES THEY'RE ROUGH, YOU KNOW, THESE MEETINGS, THESE JOINT MEETINGS ARE A LITTLE ROUGH SOMETIMES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S LIKE. BUT IT'S ALSO GOOD BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING TO HEAR FROM EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING VERSUS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

AND OUR BOARD MEMBERS KIND OF GET A BETTER DIRECTION OF WHAT WE NEED OUT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO IT DEFINITELY HELPS A LOT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I'M GOING TO MENTION SOME OTHER THINGS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, FOR BRINGING UP THE SALES, I MEAN, THE PROPERTY TAX ISSUE. I MEAN, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

THE TOD COULD HELP US WITH THAT BECAUSE WE COULD REALLY RECAPTURE SOME TAXING OUT OF THERE OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT CAN BE TAXED, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN ALSO GET A BENEFIT FROM, RIGHT.

LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH I KNOW DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM CARES DEEPLY ABOUT, JUST LIKE I DO.

AND THAT'S WHERE OUR FIRST TOD IS DOING, RIGHT, BRINGING IN A TON OF PROPER AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE JUST LIKE YOU DID IN LOS ANGELES, RIGHT ON TOP OF A DART STATION.

AND THE BENEFIT TO DART IS Y'ALL ARE GOING TO END UP WITH A VERY NICE UNDERGROUND PARKING LOT.

RIGHT. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIP THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ALL WORK ON TOGETHER.

AND WE'VE GOT MORE OF THAT GOING ON. THE STREETCAR, THIS IS WAY BEFORE PROBABLY ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS YOU KNOW, AND YOU NADINE. BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT IT IS WE BUILT THE STREETCAR, THE CITY OF DALLAS, NOT DART. SO SOMEBODY MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT GIVING THE STREETCAR BACK TO DART.

IT WAS NEVER THEIRS. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE OWN IT. AND WE I THINK IN 17 OR 18 ASKED DART TO TAKE IT OVER BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE DO.

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AND SO WE ASKED AND DART, THANKFULLY SAID YES.

IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WE EVER PROBABLY DREAMED BACK IN ITS DAY, AND IT HAS TO BE REPLACED, THE ACTUAL VEHICLE, IT'S LIKE A CAR. IT'S JUST IT'S JUST LIKE A BUS, YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN AND WE ARE ON A A TECHNOLOGY THAT IS ANTIQUATED. AND SO THAT'S PART OF OUR ISSUE RIGHT NOW, IS HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT AND DEAL WITH THAT.

RIGHT. BUT IT WAS BUILT WITH TIGER GRANTS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THE THE CITY OF FORT WORTH ALSO HAD TIGER GRANTS.

AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS JOINTLY.

AND THE CITY OF FORT WORTH SAID NAH WE'RE OUT AND THEY GAVE THEIR MONEY BACK.

WE COULD NOT GET THAT MONEY. WE COULDN'T ACCESS IT.

SO NOW WE'RE HERE FAST FORWARD WE'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND IT AS A CITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND WE'VE NEVER HAVE SINCE THEN.

AND SO IT'S THAT'S PART OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE PARTNER WITH DART.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE SURE IT'S OUT THERE.

AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT DART'S STREETCAR, THEY JUST OPERATE IT FOR US AND MAINTAIN IT FOR US.

AND THE CITY OF DALLAS PAYS FOR IT. WE PAY FOR THAT OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND.

AND WE SHOULD BE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, DO YOU TAKE IT OVER AND YOU TAKE CARE OF IT FROM NOW ON.

AND WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR IT. IT'S LIKE ASKING SOMEBODY TO COME REROOF YOUR HOUSE AND, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S YOUR HOUSE, YOU'RE LIVING IN THERE AND IT'S LIKE YOU WANT SOMEBODY ELSE TO PAY FOR THEM TO ROOF IT.

RIGHT. IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU TO DART FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO DO TO TRY TO KEEP IT GOING.

BUT DEFINITELY WE DO WANT TO AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT EXPANSION.

AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE DO THAT? CAN WE DO THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE HEARING IT A LOT, BUT HOW WILL IT LOOK CORRECTLY? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. NONE OF US DO. BUT YOU ALL ARE THE EXPERTS ON THAT TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION.

WE'RE NOT. BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT'S A VERY POPULAR THING, AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SOME SOME DIFFERENT LOOK VERSION. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

YOU ALL WILL. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY I KNOW MOST OF US WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IN THE FUTURE.

WATCHING THE THE OFFICE DOWNTOWN RIDERSHIP THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER.

I JUST WANTED TO ALSO MENTION FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW AND TO REMIND OUR BOARD MEMBERS, AS WELL AS OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT ON THE DOWNTOWN, THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE'VE BEEN REALLY HAD A HARD PUSH TO TAKE EMPTY OFFICE SPACE AND TRANSITION IT INTO HOUSING.

AND SO THAT ALSO IS A CHANGE IN, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL FOR DOWNTOWN RIDERSHIP THAT COULD AFFECT WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING AND LOOKING AT AS DOWNTOWN BECOMES MORE RESIDENTIAL. IT MAY NOT BE AS MUCH OFFICE SPACE DOWNTOWN, RIGHT? AND AS WELL AS THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ALL MENTIONED, ALL OF THOSE CAN CAUSE FOR THE REASON WHY DOWNTOWN RIDERSHIP ISN'T AS HEFTY AS IT USED TO BE, BUT IT WILL BE DIFFERENT. AND SO YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING, NADINE, ABOUT THE I LIVED ABOVE THE SEVENTH STREET STATION.

I TOOK THREE, YOU KNOW. YEAH, 15 MINUTES BECAUSE IT WAS SET UP FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT DALLAS HAS GOT TO FIGURE OUT, IS HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T TAKE, YOU KNOW, THREE HOURS TO GET SOMEWHERE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, BUT IT COULD, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU'RE GOING. RIGHT. THE NEXT THING IS DALLAS HAS BEEN THAT'S THE RIDERSHIP THAT THE RIDERSHIP IS COMING BACK.

EXCELLENT. IT TAKES TIME. OUR WORLD CHANGED. OUR WORLD FLIPPED UPSIDE DOWN, AND NONE OF US HAD BEEN PART OF IT.

I HOPE THAT WE NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANYTHING LIKE A GLOBAL PANDEMIC EVER AGAIN THAT SHUTS DOWN THE ENTIRE GLOBE.

BUT WE CHANGED. WE CHANGED AS A SOCIETY. I NEVER DID A ZOOM MEETING BEFORE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, WE WE DO THEM ALL THE TIME. IT'S LIKE, OH, I CAN MEET WITH YOU, YOU KNOW NADINE NO, I'M NOT FREE TO GO DOWNTOWN OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. WE CAN'T GET TOGETHER. IT'S GOING TO TAKE US THREE WEEKS TO GET THERE. BUT, HEY, I'VE GOT 15 MINUTE SLOT RIGHT HERE. CAN YOU, YOU WANT TO ZOOM? BOOM.

WE'RE DONE. RIGHT. THEN WE HAVE THE LAST ONE I'M JUST GOING TO CLOSE ON IS THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL AS NADINE AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM AT DART.

I KNOW IT'S NEW AND YOU'VE YOU'VE BEEN MAYBE YOUR SECOND YEAR ON ACTUALLY FOCUSING ON RELIABILITY, SAFETY, FREQUENCY AND CLEANLINESS. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT I DO GO DOWNTOWN, NOT JUST HERE, BUT ON MY OWN PERSONAL TIME WHEN I'M DOING THINGS AND I HAVE HAD I HAVE SEEN THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE I CAN I DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PARK AND RIDE IN WEST DALLAS.

I HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET ACROSS THE RIVER AND GET OVER HERE, AND I'LL PARK AND RIDE FROM THE EDGE OF DOWNTOWN TO GET TO OTHER AREAS.

AND I WILL TELL YOU, I MY MY FULL PERSONAL EXPERIENCE RIGHT NOW IS AT THE WEST END STATION.

IT USED TO BE THE SCARIEST PLACE THAT I'D EVER SEEN BEFORE.

IT'S NOT THAT WAY ANYMORE. IT'S CLEAN. WE DON'T HAVE FOLKS JUST HANGING OUT THERE SELLING DRUGS OR DOING ANYTHING, SO THANK YOU, CHIEF CATO. BECAUSE I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU CAME OUT OF CITY DALLAS SO DALLAS PD,

[01:40:05]

YOU KNOW AND HOW DO WE CONTINUE THIS AS WE GO? I CAN'T EXPLAIN FOR ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I DO TELL YOU THAT TRAIN IS ON TIME, AND IT GETS ME WHERE I NEED TO GET, AND IT'S CLEAN AND I FEEL SAFE. AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS, THE WHOLE SYSTEM.

I'M JUST SAYING MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AS OF TODAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO JUST DO A SNAPSHOT, THIS IS MY SNAPSHOT TODAY OF MY ONE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

AND I HAVE TO SAY, THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE HARD WORK, THE DETERMINATION AND THE PARTNERSHIP WE'VE ALL HAD.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. LET'S CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP.

I, I, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THIS PRESENTATION LEFT FROM OUR CHAIRMAN, MR. SLAGEL. HE WILL BE GIVING THIS NEXT PRESENTATION.

MR. CHAIR, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. YES. CAN I MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT? YES, PLEASE. I'M HAPPY TO REPORT GOING BACK TO THE THE TOD AND THE IMPORTANCE OF CONVERSING MORE BETWEEN DART AND THE CITY.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I'M A MEMBER OF ZOAC THE ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND THIS MORNING WE HAD A MEETING DOWNSTAIRS IN THE IN THE AUDITORIUM.

AND EMILY, EMILY LOU, WHO'S THE HEAD OF NEW HEAD OF PLANNING DEVELOPMENT, TALKED ABOUT HER PLAN AND THE BIG COMPONENTS OF WHAT SHE'S DOING.

SHE, OF COURSE, IS FOCUSING A LOT OF TIME ON FORWARD DALLAS, WHICH IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW. AND AND A BIG PART OF THAT ARE TODS.

AND WE TALKED THIS MORNING ABOUT THE THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING MORE OF A CONVERSATION AND, AND CROSS-POLLINATING INFORMATION, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY IT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OF THE DECISIONS THAT DART MAKES ON WHERE TO ADD OR REMOVE SERVICE ARE AFFECTED BY ZONING PLANS, BY CITY DALLAS. SO AS THIS ZONING FOR, FOR DALLAS COMES UP WE'RE GOING TO ENCOURAGE TODAY WAS THE FIRST TIME WE SAID, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S LET'S WORK ON THAT TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU. AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE ON ZOAC BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM DART, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, A REPRESENTATIVE OF DART THERE IN A WAY. SO MAYBE SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT FOR THE FUTURE IS TO MAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF OUR PARTNERS ORGANIZATIONS ARE A MEMBER OF ZOAC, OR AT LEAST AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER TO GIVE US INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW ALL ABOUT ZOAC , BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MCGREGOR. CHAIRMAN SLAGEL, I'M PASSING THE BATON TO YOU NOW AT THIS POINT.

I'M GOING TO GO TO SLIDE 45 IF I COULD DO THAT.

AND ALL I WANT TO DO IS SAY THAT THAT THIS BOARD, MAJORITY OF THIS BOARD IS IN SYNC ON WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON RETAINING THE FULL $0.01 SALES TAX.

WE'VE TALKED TO OUR CITIES ON THREE ROUNDS, THE, THE, THE SUBURBAN CITIES, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THIS TOGETHER AS A GROUP.

AND, AND I'VE SPOKEN QUITE OFTEN WITH YOUR CHAIRMAN.

HE'S BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL. HE WAS VERY HELPFUL AT THE RTC TRAIN WRECK THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK, BUT WE'LL GET PAST THAT AS WELL. I WILL SAY THAT WE LEARNED QUITE A BIT IN MAKING THOSE MEETINGS, AND THAT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO FIT RIGHT INTO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THINGS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOGETHER.

WE'VE DEFINED A SALES TAX INCREMENT APPROACH THAT MIGHT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO EVERYONE, UTILIZE MORE OF OUR REAL ESTATE AND COLLABORATE MORE THAN WE HAVE BEEN. AND I THINK ALL OF THAT IS FANTASTIC.

I'M GOING TO JUMP THEN TO SLIDE 48, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FROM HERE.

AND SLIDE 48 SAYS WE'RE TRYING TO REVERSE RESOLUTIONS THAT SPEAK AGAINST OUR SALES TAX.

AND WE WHEN WE GO TO THE CITIES AND WE TALK TO THEM, WE GET SOME SOME VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK.

I THINK WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. WE'RE STARTING TO TRY TO GATHER RESOLUTIONS THAT SUPPORT DART FULL FUNDING AND TURN SOME OF THOSE AROUND THAT DIDN'T ORIGINALLY. AND AND WITHOUT THE PATIENCE OF DALLAS, WE COULDN'T DO THE THINGS WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW WITH THE SUBURBS, BECAUSE I CAN IMAGINE WE COULD HAVE A WAR WITH DALLAS AND, AND THIS WHOLE, THIS WHOLE ORGANIZATION WOULD FALL APART.

BUT WE KNOW WE CAN COUNT ON YOU GUYS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE'VE GOT SOME SUBURBS THAT ARE VERY STRONG SUPPORTERS AS WELL.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT I THAT THERE IS A REAL CONCERN ABOUT THE ERNST AND YOUNG STUDY, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

AND WE DON'T HAVE YOUR POINT ABOUT MAKING MAKING SOMETHING HAPPEN MORE QUICKLY THAN LATER IS PROBABLY A VERY VALID POINT, BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR LEGISLATORS.

AND IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHEN ERNST AND YOUNG CAME IN TO TO PRESENT THEIR REPORT, THEY COMMENTED THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE LEFT OUT.

AND SO THEY'RE NOT UNAWARE OF THIS. AND WE PERHAPS WE CALL THEM BACK IN AND ASK THEM TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

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IF WE LOSE 25%, DART DOES NOT SURVIVE IN ANY WAY THAT NADINE PROJECTED.

WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WHOLE REGION NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT, AND IT'S QUITE SERIOUS.

I MEAN, WE'RE ABOUT WE'RE ABOUT TO CRANK UP A SILVER LINE THAT MAY RUN FOR A MONTH AND A HALF, AND WE'LL HAVE TO SHUT IT DOWN. IT IS IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT WE'RE IN A POSITION WE'RE IN, BUT WE'RE IN IT, AND OUR FIGHT IS TO GET OUT OF IT.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND LET'S DRIVE FORWARD TOGETHER.

APPRECIATE YOU. AND I WILL ADJOURN THE DALLAS PART OR THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT PORTION OF THIS MEETING, SO YOU CAN GET ON WITH THE REST OF YOURS. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU TO OUR DART BOARD MEMBERS, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

YOU GET THAT BIG OLD PAYCHECK FROM DART OF $0.00.

AND YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DOUBLE IT, BUT I DON'T THINK I THINK IT'S OUT OF ORDER.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ. MR. CHAIR, DO YOU NEED A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FROM US? WHAT WHAT WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO REALLY SEND THIS MESSAGE HOME THAT THE THAT DALLAS SUPPORT STARTED? I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK OUR CHAIRMAN ASKED ME MORE THAN ONCE, AND I'LL ASK HIM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT FROM DART.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ME. BUT CHAIRMAN, WITH A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE FULL, FULLY FUNDING OF THE SALES TAX FOR DART, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP? YOU ALL.

I'LL LET YOU ANSWER IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT. IF YOU ALL ARE OKAY WITH LETTING THE CHAIRMAN ANSWER FOR YOU ALL, BUT CHAIRMAN. LET ME SAY THAT I THINK A LETTER WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

A RESOLUTION WOULD BE A LITTLE STRONGER. BECAUSE TO A LEGISLATOR, THAT PROBABLY MEANS A LITTLE MORE THAN A LETTER.

BUT WE'LL DO WHAT, WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER WE CAN GET AND BE HAPPY WITH THAT.

SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CRAFT A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR FOR FULLY FUNDING AT ONE PENNY.

AND THERE'S A PROPER SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT FROM CITY OF DALLAS MEMBERS? NO DISCUSSION. [INAUDIBLE] I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK THAT THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE ALREADY VERY PUBLICLY AS A BODY EXPRESSED OUR WILL AND IT'S BEEN REPORTED REPEATEDLY.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY DOWN AT THE LEDGE THAT'S WORKING ON THIS TOPIC THAT DOESN'T ALREADY KNOW THIS.

THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. MR. MCGREGOR.

DID YOU DID YOU ASK FOR COMMENTS FROM THE THE MEMBERS? AND IS THIS A VOTE THAT THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO.

NO THIS IS A VOTE JUST FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. BUT I MEAN, IF THERE'S A DART BOARD MEMBER, I SEE MR. BRYANT, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, BECAUSE KNOW, SINCE THEY'RE IT'S FRAUGHT AND THERE'S LOTS OF HIDDEN MESSAGES BEING SENT TO THE LEGISLATURE TO DESPITE OUR AGENDA.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO BELT AND SUSPENDER THIS ONE OFFICIALLY FOR THIS.

VERY GOOD. POINT OF PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, PLEASE.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER, PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER OR PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE QUESTION.

YES. AND IS THE MOTION TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR A RESOLUTION? IS THAT CORRECT? I'LL LET THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAY WHAT HER INTENT WAS.

YES, IT WOULD BE. YES, SHE SAID YES, IT WOULD BE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY GOOD.

I DON'T NECESSARILY SPEAK ON THE MOTION IF THAT'S OUT OF ORDER.

THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT SO. BUT I WANT TO SPEAK TO COUNCIL WOMAN SCHULTZ'S QUESTION ABOUT WHAT CAN DALLAS BE DOING FOR DART? VERY, VERY GOOD.

MENDELSOHN, PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. WAS THE DART BOARD MEETING ADJOURNED ALREADY? IT IT WAS STARTED AND THEN IT DIDN'T END UP BEING ADJOURNED AT THAT POINT.

BUT HE DID START IT AND THEN HE DIDN'T FINISH ADJOURNING THE MEETING FOR DART.

OKAY. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. MR. BRYANT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

IF YOU WANT TO DISPOSE THE MOTION AND THEN I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT WAY IT'S NOT INTO THE VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO. SO THIS IS FOR CITY OF DALLAS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS ONLY.

THOSE AND MR. BAZALDUA DID YOU NEED TO DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY? I'M SORRY. BEFORE I GO IN ON THE VOTE. I WAS JUST WANTING TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION.

OH VERY GOOD. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IN THE MOTION. I DO THINK IT IS NECESSARY.

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IN FACT, I THINK THAT OUR DELEGATION WAS SPLIT AT THE RTC VOTE LAST TIME.

SO TO SAY THAT WE'VE SENT A CLEAR MESSAGE, I THINK WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FALSE.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE ACTION AS A CITY, AND THEN WE CAN ALLOW ANY TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS TO CARRY THEIR OWN. BUT AS FAR AS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S TROUBLESOME THAT OUR DELEGATION WAS SPLIT LAST WEEK IN THE FIRST PLACE, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SITTING ON REGIONAL BOARDS AS A VOICE FOR OUR CITY, AND WE'VE MADE IT REALLY CLEAR, I THOUGHT, AS MISS MENDELSOHN SAID, IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

BUT THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO TRANSLATE WHEN IT CAME TO REPRESENTING OUR CITY ON A REGIONAL BOARD.

SO MAKING SURE THAT ACTION IS TAKEN THAT CAN GIVE LEVERAGE TO THE DART ENTITY AS WELL AS US TO OUR DELEGATION DOWN IN AUSTIN, I THINK WILL BE VERY STRONG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WITH THAT WE WILL NOW HAVE THE VOTE DALLAS TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS ONLY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO. ONE NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

THAT WILL BE NOTED THAT YOU ARE THE VOTED IN THE OPPOSITION TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

THE MOTION PASSES. WE'RE MOVING ON SO, MR. BRYANT, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND CHAIR SLAGEL, TO MY DART BOARD COLLEAGUES, AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND, OF COURSE, THANK YOU TO OUR STAFF. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHULTZ, TO YOUR QUESTION THERE'S ALSO A LEVEL OF FINANCIAL QUESTIONS OR ADVANCEMENT OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY OUR SUBURBAN CITIES AS OF RECENT COST ESTIMATES 10, 15, $18 MILLION HAVE BEEN REPORTED.

UNFORTUNATELY THE PROJECTS DID NOT COME ALONG WITH ANY FUNDING MECHANISMS. SO THAT'S ALL UP TO DART TO FIGURE OUT, THEY'RE JUST REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.

BUT I IMPLORE OUR DALLAS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THIS COMMITTEE TO QUICKLY COME UP WITH SOME PROJECTS THAT MEET THE PALE OF SOME EQUITY AS WE WILL VERY QUICKLY HAVE TO VOTE ON THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE OUR AGENCY, ALTHOUGH WE'VE KIND OF HELD A JOVIAL TONE TODAY.

LET'S BE HONEST, WE ARE UNDER ATTACK. WE'RE UNDER ATTACK, UNFORTUNATELY, BY MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL, SOMETIMES BY MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS BOARD DART BOARD MEMBERS.

AND SO I'VE SAT RIGHT HERE ALMOST A YEAR AGO AND, AND WHEN I WAS INTERVIEWING FOR, FOR THIS SEAT AND IT WAS ASKED TO ME, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT? I SAID, WE NEED TO HAVE ONE MESSAGE AND ONE VOICE.

AND WE CONSISTENTLY DO NOT HAVE THAT. SO I IMPLORE YOU ALL, WHETHER THAT'S D2 OR WHATEVER, IT'S NOT MY JOB TO TELL YOU ALL WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST AS FAR AS THE THE IMPORTANT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WITHIN THE CITY.

BUT WE NEED TO FIND THEM QUICKLY. BECAUSE THE SUBURBS ARE HOLDING THAT VOTE THAT WAS GOING BACK TO RTC.

THEY SAID, WE'VE ONLY, YOU KNOW, DONE ONE VOTE IN FOUR MONTHS.

WELL, WE WE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE DALLAS PROJECTS ARE SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT NUMBER ONE, BEFORE WE FUND THESE PROJECTS FROM. BUT WE NEED TO GET THIS LIST, THIS INVENTORY LIST OR PROJECT LIST FROM DALLAS SO THAT WE CAN START CONTEMPLATING WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, FUND THESE PROJECTS AND MOVE THEM FORWARD IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT THE WHAT THE SUBURBS HAVE REQUESTED.

SO, MR. CHAIR, THAT WAS EXACTLY MY QUESTION THAT I HAD ASKED.

AND I GUESS I WASN'T NEARLY AS ARTICULATE AS OUR DART BOARD MEMBER.

AND SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT FROM YOU, MISS LEE, IS WHAT IS THE DEADLINE FOR US? AND THEN WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE USING BECAUSE DALLAS IS MORE COMPLICATED.

SO SO OUR AREA PLANNING PROCESS THAT I MENTIONED INVOLVES AND AGAIN, DALLAS IS A MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE AREA FOR US TO BE ADDRESSING, BUT IT INVOLVES US SITTING DOWN WITH YOUR STAFF LOOKING AT WHERE YOUR ANTICIPATED TRAVEL DEMAND IS GOING TO BE IN THE FUTURE BASED ON WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND, YOUR DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE TO LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ENHANCE SERVICES.

DALLAS DOES HAVE AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE ENOUGH SERVICE, RIGHT? I MEAN, NOBODY HAS ENOUGH SERVICE IN THIS WHOLE REGION.

SO OUR OBJECTIVE IS REALLY TO SIT DOWN AND UNDERSTAND BASED ON YOUR PROJECTIONS OF DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHERE YOUR TRAVEL DEMAND IS GOING TO BE, THE INCREASED TRAVEL DEMAND, SO THAT WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO START ADDING IN THOSE SERVICES OVER TIME.

NOW, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE ROB SMITH DOES HAVE HIS TIER ONE AND TIER TWO BUS NETWORKS, SO WE ALREADY ARE ANTICIPATING SOME GROWTH IN SERVICES

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SO LET ME ASK IT A DIFFERENT WAY. WHAT AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR OUR STAFF, WHICH IS HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE ARE PART OF THAT LIST OF REQUESTS? THAT'S FAIR. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION COUNCIL WOMAN.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH DART ABOUT THIS AREA PLAN PROCESS.

IT'S BEEN PRELIMINARY IN NATURE SO FAR BECAUSE I THINK THE FOCUS ON THE AREA PLANS HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE EXTERNAL CITIES.

AS, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ENGAGING IN CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT YOUR PRIORITIES WITHIN YOUR DISTRICTS.

I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, TO TOUCH BASE WITH EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE KNOW AND WE HEARD FROM FROM THE COUNCIL IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS LIKE, IF NOT D2, THEN WHAT? AND SO WE HAVE BEEN BEEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE PRIORITIES ARE, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO DO SOME WORK TO, TO PULL A LIST OF PROJECTS TOGETHER AND WORK IN CONCERT WITH DART TO, TO GET THOSE.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO HEAR, I GUESS, FROM OUR STAFF THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

NO, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU, MR. BRYANT, BOARD MEMBER BRYANT, FOR YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER. I DO AGREE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW, HAVING ONE VOICE, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT ONE VOICE ESPECIALLY WHEN WE VOTE ON THINGS AS A COUNCIL AND ALSO WHEN I REMEMBER YOUR INTERVIEW AND HOW HOW PASSIONATE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ABOUT YOU, YOU YOU WILL YOU REPRESENT DALLAS.

WILL YOU DO WHAT'S GOOD FOR DALLAS WILL YOU WILL YOU? AND AND THEN THEY TEND TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SO WITH THAT THANK YOU AGAIN. MR. CHAIRMAN THANK YOU.

THANK YOU TO ALL YOUR BOARD MEMBERS, AS WELL AS OUR PARTNER AT THE, AT DART.

AND AT THIS TIME, YOU CAN ADJOURN THE DART PORTION OF THE YOUR MEETING, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS PARK PORTION.

WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM AND, COLLEAGUES I KNOW WE'RE RUNNING LONG, BUT IF WE CAN STAY TO TRANSIT 2.0 THAT MICHAEL MORRIS WILL BE PRESENTING.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS ONE ON THE AGENDA FOR SOME TIME, AND THIS IS WHEN HE'S AVAILABLE.

SO IF YOU CAN PLEASE LET US KEEP A QUORUM SO WE CAN GET THIS PRESENTATION I THINK IT'S GOING TO REALLY BRING TOGETHER A LOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON OKAY. AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING OVER. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING.

SO THAT YOU CAN REALLY GET TO HEAR WHAT IS GOING ON.

AND I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO BRING TOGETHER A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

AND MR. MORRIS, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR HERE IN A SECOND AND GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION UNLIKE THAT WEIRD LITTLE MEETING THAT WE ALL WENT OUT TO IN A NORTHERN SUBURB WHERE THEY TOLD YOU YOU HAD THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT TRANSIT 2.0.

MICHAEL MORRIS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IF YOU'RE A DART BOARD MEMBER, IF YOU WOULD STAY FOR 15 MINUTES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO HEAR MY COMMENTS AS I COMPLIMENT YOU ON YOUR STEPS MOVING FORWARD.

THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THIS PARTICULAR COIN, AND I'M GOING TO LAY OUT BOTH OF THEM IN THE PRESENTATION.

ONE OF THEM IS OCCURRING WITHIN THE DART DISCUSSION THAT YOU'RE HAVING.

AND ANOTHER GOES BACK TO EITHER AN EITHER INTENDED OR UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR LOSING YOUR ETJ AUTHORITIES AND THE IMPACT THAT HAS WITH REGARD TO MOVING FORWARD. AND THEY ARE EACH ONE SIDE OF A COIN.

AND I THINK IT IS OUR GENERATION'S TIME TO LOOK AT THESE TWO ISSUES SERIOUSLY.

SO WE MAKE SURE WE TELL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR REGION IN 2050, THERE WAS A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN 2025 THAT DID THAT, DID ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY COULD TO TURN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE AROUND.

SO TRANSIT 2.0, IT'S A BUSY SLIDE. I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH THE TASKS.

TASK ONE IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE TASK. TASK TWO IS TO DEVELOP A TRANSIT LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM.

IF YOU WOULD GO BACK ONE SLIDE FOR ME, PLEASE.

THE SECOND ROW IS TASK TWO, A LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED AND ENDORSED BY THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL.

GOT SOME DEBATE LAST WEEK. TASK THREE IS TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO INCREASE TRANSIT AUTHORITY MEMBERSHIP.

SO THIS IS BOTH HOW TO CREATE NEW MEMBERS AND HOW TO CREATE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS WITH TRANSIT AUTHORITIES.

I WILL BE HOLDING TOWN HALL MEETINGS THIS MONTH TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE LAYING OUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN TASK THREE WITH REGARD TO HOW WE CAN GROW OUR TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES. THIS WILL GET RIGHT TO THE GIST OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN.

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SO IT HAS TWO COMPONENTS. ARE THE TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN AT THEIR BOUNDARY CONDITIONS DENTON COUNTY INTERFACING WITH DART IN CARROLLTON. TRINITY METRO INTERFACING WITH DART AT THE DFW AIRPORT NORTHERN STATIONS A AND C. TRINITY RAILWAY EXPRESS, AND IT'S A COMBINED EFFORT BETWEEN DART AND THE FORT WORTH TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY.

AND ON THE SUPPLY SIDE. IS THERE ENOUGH ECONOMIES OF SCALE OCCURRING BETWEEN THE TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES TO LOWER COSTS TO PROVIDE MORE FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES? SO THAT'S IN TASK FOUR.

TASK FIVE IS DEVELOP STRATEGIES FOR FOR AUTHORITY, BOARD PARTNERSHIP AND TEAMWORK.

THAT IS THE CRISIS CONCERNS YOU HAVE SEEN PERCOLATE OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS.

I WAS INVITED BY CHAIRMAN SLAGEL, WHO I THINK IS BUSTING HIS BEHIND TO SOLVE THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM.

I TOLD THEM THAT I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT A DALLAS COWBOYS HELMET WITH ME TO THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE I AM NOT VERY PROUD OF HOW THOSE BOARD MEMBERS TREAT EACH OTHER WITH REGARD TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

OUR CONSULTANT MCKINSEY, ONE OF THE LARGEST CONSULTANTS IN THE WORLD, IS NOT TAKING THE BAIT THAT THIS IS ABOUT BYLAWS.

THIS IS NOT A BYLAWS PROBLEM. IT'S BEING DEMONSTRATED TO BE A BYLAWS PROBLEM.

THIS IS A LACK OF COMMON VISION PROBLEM. AND WHAT IT DOES WHEN PEOPLE REFUSE TO SEE THE COMMON VISION IN THE ROLE THE TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY HAS IN OUR FUTURE, FROM LAND USE TO OUR ABILITY TO GET A JOB IF WE DON'T OWN A CAR, TO A POOR PERSON TRYING TO GET TO WORK, TO A MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR LIKE CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY THAT NEEDS A TUNNEL IN ORDER TO MOVE PEOPLE EQUIVALENT TO TWO FREEWAY LANES A DAY.

WHEN THERE IS NOT COMMON VISION THIS IS THE CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS THAT YOU'RE WITNESSING.

AND THIS IS ONE SIDE OF THE COIN THAT HAS TO BE RESOLVED.

OUR CONSULTANTS ARE NOT GOING TO GET INTO A LONG WINDED CONVERSATION OF BYLAW REVISIONS BECAUSE IT'S A SYMPTOM OF A BIGGER PROBLEM.

AND I'LL SHARE WITH YOU THE RESULTS OF TASK FIVE IN A MOMENT, WHICH SHEDS LIGHT ON WHAT THIS COMMON VISION SHOULD BE MOVING FORWARD IN A REGION OF 8.5 ON ITS WAY TO 12.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS TASK SIX DEVELOP STRATEGIES FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE GOING TO BE IN TASK FIVE WHEN I WROTE THIS TASK.

BUT BACK TO, I BELIEVE, A DISCUSSION YOU WERE HAVING AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

YOU INFILL DEVELOPMENT AROUND EXISTING DART STATIONS.

YOU GET LIKE 4 OR 5 BENEFITS ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

YOU GET AN INCREASE IN YOUR PROPERTY TAX. YOU GET AN INCREASE IN YOUR YOUR PORTION OF THE SALES TAX.

DART GETS AN INCREASE IN ITS PORTION OF THE SALES TAX.

YOU HAVE MORE HOUSEHOLDS PRODUCING LESS VEHICLE MILES OF TRAVEL BECAUSE THEY'RE CO-LOCATED NEAR A DART STATION, WHICH HAS TREMENDOUS BENEFITS WITH REGARD TO AIR QUALITY.

IT'S A MUCH SAFER SITUATION COMPARED TO DRIVING AUTOMOBILES AT HIGH RATES OF SPEED, CONCERNED ABOUT THE FATALITIES WE HAVE IN OUR PARTICULAR REGION. AND IT HELPS US WITH THE OZONE PROBLEM AND OTHER OBLIGATIONS AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE WE HAVE.

SO THIS THIS WHOLE FOCUS ON INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AROUND RAIL STATIONS IS A MAJOR PUSH IN BOTH TASK FIVE AND SIX.

REVIEW FARE COLLECTION STRATEGIES. THAT TASK IS FINISHING UP.

I DON'T THINK YOU'LL SEE THE CONSULTANTS MOVING TOWARDS FREE FARES.

I THINK THAT UNDERMINES THE VALUE OF WHAT DART IS DELIVERING WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO FOCUS ON THE BENEFITS THAT WE SHOULD BE GIVING TO THE REGULAR USERS OF OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM.

WHEN I GO TO A HOCKEY GAME FROM ARLINGTON, I'M PAYING THE SAME TRANSIT FARE AS SOMEONE WHO USED THAT TRE TRAIN EVERY SINGLE DAY.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT. I'M AVOIDING A 40 DAY, A $40 PARKING COST THAT PERSON IS PAYING THEIR FAIR EVERY SINGLE DAY.

SO WE'RE HOPING A REWARDS PROGRAM OR SOMETHING COMES OUT OF THOSE DEDICATED TRANSIT USERS SUPPORTING DART AND SOME SOME ABILITY TO BRING INNOVATION BASED ON WHAT OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES ARE DOING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND TASK EIGHT, VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE ERNST AND YOUNG REPORT THAT LOOKS AT ONE DATA POINT.

MCKINSEY IS PUTTING TOGETHER ALL THE COST AND REVENUES FOR DART OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE TAKE DOWN SCHEDULE IS WITH REGARD TO THEIR SALES

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THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS THE CORRECT MATH EQUATION TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF REVENUE? NO DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY OF DALLAS MAY WISH TO LOOK AT ITS COSTS AND REVENUES OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD.

YOU CERTAINLY WOULDN'T LOOK AT ONE YEAR'S WORTH OF COST OF REVENUES TO SEE IF YOU CAN MAINTAIN OR NEED TO ADJUST YOUR POLICY ITEMS MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN TASK NINE IS IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT.

CHAIR SLAGEL INVITED ME TO TWO MEETINGS WITH THE BOARD.

I WAS HONORED TO BE THERE WITH THEM. I AM TOTALLY ECSTATIC AT THE SPEED IN WHICH THE DART BOARD IS EMBRACING THE NEW TRANSIT 2.0 RECOMMENDATIONS. I WAS INVITED TO THE DENTON COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY.

THE RECEPTION WAS THE SAME WITH REGARD TO THE INNOVATION MOVING FORWARD FOR THAT, AND I'M ON MY WAY TO THE FORT WORTH TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY TO GIVE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE I HAPPEN TO BE HERE DURING THESE 40 YEARS WHICH IS PROBABLY SOMEWHAT COMICAL. BUT LOOK AT WHAT SALES TAX WAS ABLE TO DO AS A REVENUE SOURCE FOR DART.

IT INCREASES WITH THE PRICE OF GOODS. SO BY DEFINITION, IF THE PRICE OF SHIRTS GOES UP, THE REVENUE GOING TO DART GOES UP.

SO IT'S INFLATION ADJUSTED WHICH IS HELPFUL WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A SYSTEM.

IT INCREASES WITH POPULATION AND EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE BUYING THINGS.

THE LARGER ECONOMY REDUCES THE RISK OF POINT OF COLLECTION.

WHAT I MEAN BY THIS IS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE LEGISLATURE WISHES TO DO ON WHERE IT RECORDS, THE SALES TAX RECEIPTS AT THE POINT OF SALE OR SOME OTHER LOCATION.

DART IS LARGE ENOUGH TO ABSORB NOT A MAJOR HIT WITH REGARD TO THAT TO THAT PARTICULAR ITEM THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE SENSITIVE TO, AND IT OBVIOUSLY BENEFITS FROM URBAN CENTRAL LOCATION DECISIONS LIKE I DESCRIBED TO YOU WITH REGARD TO MORE INFILL DEVELOPMENT PRODUCES MORE REVENUE. THE POINT IS, IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT OUR TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES ARE MORE URBAN THAN RURAL WITH REGARD TO THIS ABILITY TO AFFECT LOCATION DECISIONS. SO WHAT TRANSIT 2.0 DOES IF YOU NOW LOOK FORWARD, IS WHAT IS THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THIS PARTICULAR REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS? SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND WHY IS WHY DID TRANSIT 2.0 COME ABOUT.

WELL, LARGELY, LARGELY CAME ABOUT WITH SOME OF US OBSERVING EARLY DISAGREEMENT IN THE DART BOARD WITH REGARD TO THE FUTURE AND A STAFF TO THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL DESPERATELY NEEDING A SUCCESSFUL DART OR EVEN A MORE SUCCESSFUL DART IF WE'RE GOING TO COMBAT, WHICH I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE, THE SECOND ISSUE THAT OUR GENERATION FACES.

WE'RE LEAVING AN AGGRESSIVE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

EVEN THOUGH THINGS LIKE THE SILVER LINE AND OTHER THINGS ARE STILL GOING TO BE BUILT, BUT NOT NEARLY AS AGGRESSIVE AS THE FIRST 40 YEARS.

IT'S A NATURAL FOCUS TO, TO TO WORK ON OPERATIONS NOW THAT YOUR SYSTEM HAS BEEN BUILT.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO FOCUS ON OPERATIONS WHEN YOU'RE BUSY BUILDING A SYSTEM.

THERE'S GREATER BOARD DIVERSITY ON POLICY. THAT'S A NICE WAY OF SAYING THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE NOT GETTING AS LONG AS WELL AS THEY SHOULD.

THERE NEEDS TO BE GREATER CONSIDERATION OF TECHNOLOGY.

TECHNOLOGY IS YOUR YOUR FRIEND JUST LIKE IT IS ON THE ROADWAY SYSTEM.

WE NEED TO REVIEW THE POST COVID TRANSIT PATTERNS.

DART IS DELIVERING A SYSTEM LARGELY, MR. CHAIRMAN.

YOU KNOW THE KNOW, THE DOWNTOWN OFFICE WORKERS ARE NOT COMING BACK TO WORK.

SO TRANSIT VEHICLES, SOME PERCENTAGE OF THEM ARE IN THE WRONG PART OF TOWN AT THE WRONG PART OF THE DAY.

AND PART OF YOU'LL SEE IN THIS RECOMMENDATION IS MICRO TRANSIT IS A WAY FOR DART TO REESTABLISH WHERE ARE THEIR USERS.

TO REESTABLISH WHERE SHOULD THEIR FIXED ROUTES BE.

BECAUSE THEIR FIXED ROUTE SERVICE, ESPECIALLY ON SOME BUS ROUTES, NOT ALL, MAYBE NOT WHAT IT WAS BEFORE NOT NOT BECAUSE OF ANY BLAME TO THEM, BUT BECAUSE THOSE WORKERS ARE NOT GOING BACK TO THE WORKPLACES BY THEIR EMPLOYERS.

IT'S ALSO AN UNFAIR CRITICISM OF DART BECAUSE OF OUR TRANSIT AGENCIES, BECAUSE WE PLEADED WITH OUR TRANSIT AGENCIES TO SOLVE OUR BUSIEST COMMUTER

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WE DON'T HAVE AGREEMENT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD A TUNNEL UNDERNEATH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND CARRY TWO FREEWAY LANES A DAY.

JUST BECAUSE EMPLOYERS IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS DOESN'T BRING THEIR EMPLOYERS BACK AS MUCH AS THEY DID PRE-COVID.

IT'S NOT DART'S ISSUE. WE ALL NEED TO BE THERE FOR DART UNDER THOSE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND WHEN YOU'RE ADDING 4 MILLION PEOPLE TO THE REGION, THIS IS A TEMPORARY SITUATION.

WE'RE BLESSED THAT THIS IS NOT A PERMANENT PROBLEM LIKE MOST OF THE COUNTRY, BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING SO MUCH.

THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS COIN IS THE STATE IS NOT RECOGNIZING THE BENEFITS OF URBAN GROWTH.

AND THAT'S REALLY MY RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S NOT DART'S RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. DART IS DOING ITS SHARE TO MOVE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND URBANIZATION OF THE CENTRAL CORE.

TXDOT IS TOTALLY IMMUNE, AND MAYBE RIGHTFULLY SO WITH REGARD TO THE IMPACT ROADWAYS HAVE.

BUT AS YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, AND THIS IS THE FIRST PRESENTATION OF THIS NEW IMPACT OF THE NEW MOBILITY PLAN DEMOGRAPHICS.

IT CLEARLY IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. SO THE COG BOARD IS APPROVED NEW DEMOGRAPHICS.

THE RTC WILL BE APPROVING A NEW MOBILITY PLAN BY 2050.

WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THOSE COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN.

YOU CAN AGGREGATE THE COUNTIES IN ANY WAY YOU WANT.

THIS HAPPENS TO BE COLLIN, DENTON. COLLIN, DALLAS, DENTON, ROCKWALL, AND TARRANT.

YOU SEE THE ADDITIONAL LANE MILES IN THE CURRENT PLAN.

AND THEN YOU SEE THE ADDITIONAL LANE MILES IN THE PERIMETER COUNTIES, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.

YOU SEE A WHOLE RURALIZATION OF THE OF THE REGION THAT IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN THAT I'M PRESENTING TODAY.

LOOK AT THE SIGNIFICANT CONGESTION INCREASE IN OUR URBAN CORE.

BUT THE POINT OF THIS SLIDE IS LOOK AT THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE CONGESTION IN THE PERIMETER COUNTIES.

IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE TO HAVE THIS MAGNITUDE OF GROWTH IN PERIMETER COUNTIES, LARGELY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES.

AND THINK FOR A MOMENT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE THAT LEVEL OF CONGESTION.

NOW, WHY IS THAT OCCURRING? IT'S NOT DART'S FAULT.

THE LEGISLATURE WOKE UP ONE DAY AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T THINK LOCAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXTEND THEIR THEIR ETJ, THEIR EXTRATERRITORIAL TERRITORIAL JURISDICTIONS.

AND THOSE WERE ELIMINATED. AND BY THE WAY, I WAS IN THE LEGISLATURE LAST WEEK.

THERE ARE PEOPLE DOWN THERE TRYING TO GET RID OF YOUR ABILITY TO HAVE ANY ETJS.

SO YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EXTEND ANY OF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR BOUNDARIES FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

AND WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE IN IN TEXAS, IF YOU DEVELOP AN AN UNINCORPORATED PART OF A COUNTY, THERE ARE NO RULES. THERE ARE NO CITIES. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO RULE TO HAVE WATER OR SEWAGE TREATMENT TEN YEARS FROM NOW, PACKAGE PLANTS ARE BEING PUT IN. ROADWAYS ARE NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO TAKE A PARKED CAR AND A FIRE TRUCK, BECAUSE THERE IS NO RULES LIKE YOU HAVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT LOOKS AT PUBLIC SAFETY AND OTHER POTENTIAL THINGS.

SO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN THAT YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT'S OCCURRING AT THE SAME TIME IS DEVELOPERS ARE FLOCKING TO UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

MOST OF DALLAS AND TARRANT COUNTY HAS BEEN INCORPORATED.

SO THAT'S LARGELY IN PERIMETER COUNTIES AND BY DEFINITION, OUTSIDE OUR REACHES OF ANY TYPE OF EXISTING TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT CAN MITIGATE THAT LEVEL OF LOCATION.

WHICH GETS BACK TO WHY THIS CONVERSATION WITH DART IS SO CRITICAL, AND WHY IT'S OUR GENERATION'S RESPONSIBILITY TO BOTH AS I WAS DOING LAST WEEK, TRYING TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON GETTING COUNTIES TO HAVE SOME AUTHORITY WITH REGARD TO UNINCORPORATED AREAS, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN THE COMMITMENT TO OUR TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES.

DEPENDING ON WHAT SPECIFIC CITIES WISH TO DO IN ENTERING LEGISLATION OR NOT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, TASK FIVE GETTING BACK TO TRANSIT 2.0.

THESE ARE THE FIVE MAJOR RECOMMENDATIONS. YOU NOTICE THERE'S NOT ITEMS HERE RELATED TO BYLAWS OF THE DART BOARD.

YOU NEED TO CONTINUE TO GROW MICRO TRANSIT TO REESTABLISH WHERE YOUR TRANSIT USERS ARE.

AND YOU SEE DART MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION CONSIDERABLY.

THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A RECOMMENDATION YOU WISH TO HAVE WITHIN YOUR CITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DEDICATED FIXED ROUTE SERVICE AND RAIL SYSTEM.

WE HAVE COMMITTED AT THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION COUNCIL TO WORK ON WHAT WE CALL NEXT GENERATION TRANSIT SIGNALS.

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SO WE KNOW IT'S AN AMBULANCE. WE KNOW YOUR LIGHTS ARE ON.

WE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE BECAUSE OF YOUR GPS. WE KNOW WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO.

ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS NOT NEEDING AN OPTICOM SYSTEM.

FLASHING SIGNALS. THOSE SIGNALS TURN GREEN FOR THAT AMBULANCE TO GET TO THE HOSPITAL.

WE WANT TO TAKE THAT TECHNOLOGY TO THOSE MAJOR TRANSIT BUS ROUTES AND TREAT THAT TRANSIT VEHICLE AS IF IT'S AN AMBULANCE.

BUS PULLS INTO THE BUS STOP 10 SECONDS LATER, THE BUS FILLS.

AT 5 SECONDS, THE LIGHT TURNS GREEN. THE DRIVER DOESN'T DO ANYTHING.

THERE'S NO CARS IN FRONT OF THE BUS. THE BUS DOESN'T NEED A DEDICATED BUS LANE ALL OVER TOWN.

THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL USING TECHNOLOGY, ADVANCES THAT BUS TO THE NEXT BUS STOP SO WE CAN HAVE MORE COMPETITIVE TRANSIT SPEEDS TO OUR AUTOMOBILE MAKING IT A LITTLE BETTER INCENTIVE TO TAKE TRANSIT.

THEY'RE RECOMMENDING PRIVATE SECTOR SERVICE DELIVERY.

DO SOME PILOTS BRING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, LIKE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, BUILD IN PERFORMANCE METRICS.

HEY, RUN THIS ROUTE IF YOU CAN. SAVE COST AND GROW RIDERSHIP, CREATE A SWEAT EQUITY FOR THAT PRIVATE COMPANY TO DO INNOVATIVE THINGS.

IT MIGHT BE A NICE PILOT FOR DART TO CONSIDER, AS OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES HAVE IN THE COUNTRY.

SAFETY AND FARE ENFORCEMENT. WE'RE STARTING TO PUT FARE ENFORCEMENT TOGETHER WITH SAFETY.

WE DON'T BELIEVE CLOSING THE DART SYSTEM IS THE WAY TO GO, BUT CREATING GREATER FARE ENFORCEMENT AND MORE HUMAN CONTACT ON THE TRAINS WILL CONTINUE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THE MOMENTUM YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN WITH REGARD TO THE SAFETY AND THE SECURITY OF THE SYSTEM EVERY TIME.

AND PLEASE DO THIS. I DON'T ASK YOU TO DO A LOT.

EVERY TIME SOMEONE GIVES YOU A STORY OF DART ABOUT SOME INCIDENT ON THE TRAIN, LISTEN TO HOW LONG AGO THAT INCIDENT WAS. WHEN WE WERE IN PLANO, I WAS TOTALLY EMBARRASSED WHEN WE WERE TOLD AN INCIDENT OCCURRED ON A DART TRAIN TEN YEARS AGO.

AND THIS IS THIS IS SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS A MEDICAL ALERT, NOT NECESSARILY SOME IRREGULAR OCCURRENCE.

AND I'M SITTING NEXT TO NADINE, AND I TOLD HER, AND I THINK AFTER I TOLD HER, SHE PROBABLY WANTED TO MOVE AWAY BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT SHE'D GET IN TROUBLE. I SAID, NADINE, THIS HAPPENED EIGHT YEARS BEFORE YOU CAME HERE.

HOW DARE YOU NOT SOLVING THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM.

AND THE LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT IS INVEST IN CATALYTIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS THE ONE I'M DRIVING HOME TODAY. YOU CONTROL LAND USE.

TRANSIT AUTHORITIES DON'T DO LAND USE. BUT I BELIEVE BETWEEN INTEREST ON THE PART OF THE OF THE DART BOARD THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEMONSTRATED.

MY HOPE TO INFILL A LOT OF YOUR STATIONS, LIKE MOCKINGBIRD, THAT THAT SHOULD BE OCCURRING IN THE INTEREST OF THE RTC TO HELP BEING A FINANCIAL PLAYER TO SEE THIS DONE, HAVE IT BE IN IRVING OR OLD TOWN, LEWISVILLE OR SOUTHEAST FORT WORTH, OR WHEREVER IT MAY BE.

IF WE DON'T INFILL THE CENTER OF THE REGION BY ANOTHER 500,000 PEOPLE, THERE ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD WHAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED IN THE RURAL AREAS.

AND YOU CAN IMAGINE SO MUCH OF URBAN TRANSPORTATION ALREADY EXISTS THAT CAN BE CREATED TO HELP YOU WITH PROPERTY TAX, HOUSING, AIR QUALITY, SAFETY, RIDERSHIP, SALES TAX REVENUE FOR DART ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

MY LAST SLIDE. TRANSIT 2.0 IS NEARING COMPLETION.

THESE ARE THOSE ACTIVE SEVEN TASKS. GREEN CHECK MARKS ARE REPORTS THAT ARE COMPLETE.

BLUE REPORTS ARE TOTALLY DRAFTED, AND PRESENTATIONS ARE OCCURRING AS WE SPEAK BASED ON THE FIRST SLIDE IS THE PATH THAT INDIVIDUAL. INDIVIDUAL PRESENTATIONS GO IN A CERTAIN ORDER TO INDIVIDUAL GROUPS LIKE DART.

AND THE TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITIES FIRST. IN A MATTER OF DAYS YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST SCENARIOS COMING OUT OF MCKINSEY'S FINANCIAL FORECASTS.

SO IT'LL BE VERY INTERESTING ON WHAT THOSE REPORTS SAY IN COMPARISON TO WHAT POTENTIAL LEGISLATION MAY BE INTRODUCED, IF THERE IS ANY. MR. CHAIRMAN, I STAND READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT HELP ME TRY TO CONNECT IT'S AN IMPORTANT DAY TO DAY FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO DOUBLE DOWN IN WORKING WITH DART ON TRYING TO DO YEOMAN'S WORK WITH REGARD TO THOSE AREAS AROUND STATIONS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE IN OTHER PLACES, BUT STATIONS IS A IS AN EARLY FIRST REGARD.

AND THEN WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE RTCS LEGISLATIVE POSITION CONTINUE TO HELP US CHISEL AWAY AT CREATING MORE RULES FOR

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BECAUSE IN THE LONG RUN, IT'S NOT A SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND THEY DON'T GET POLICE, THEY DON'T GET FIRE.

THEIR PACKAGE PLANS AREN'T GOING TO LAST FOREVER.

SO WE CAN REALLY CREATE THE REGION THAT WE'RE ALL HOPING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AND ONE THAT WE LOVE FOR SO MANY YEARS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL STOP AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MICHAEL. I THINK IT'S I'M SURE WE'RE ALL DIGESTING TRANSIT 2.0, AS WE'VE HEARD IT.

SO THIS IS GOT A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION, AND I THINK OUR DART BOARD MEMBERS ARE HEARING IT FOR THE SECOND TIME.

SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR STAYING ONE MORE TIME, BECAUSE I'M SURE THE SECOND TIME AROUND, YOU PROBABLY SAW SOME OTHER THINGS THAN YOU DID BEFORE. I WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ, YOU ALREADY HAVE YOUR LIGHT ON, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S DART BOARD FOLKS WHO WANT TO GO BECAUSE IT'S UP TO THEM.

THEY THEY THEY CAN THEY'RE FREE FOR WHILE THEY'RE TEEING UP.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, MR. MORRIS, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT WORK.

AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD SHARE WHAT YOU THINK ARE THE BIGGEST BARRIERS TO THE SUCCESS OF 2.0.

ARE YOU TALKING TO ME? YES. WELL, WE'LL SEE ANY DAY.

I THINK THE FIRST BARRIER IS, ARE THERE GOING TO BE SOME MEMBER CITIES OF DART INTRODUCING LEGISLATION? I, I AUTHORED THE PLAN FOR FIFA IN 2026. WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH NADINE AND DART.

WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT LEVEL OF COMMITMENT BECAUSE LOTS OF OUR GUESTS FOR THOSE EVENTS ARE COMING FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD AND WON'T BE DRIVING CARS IN OUR COUNTRY.

AND I PRAY TO GOD THAT SOMETHING DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS THAT UNDERMINES OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER A VERY SUCCESSFUL FIFA.

SO THAT'S MY SHORT TERM PROBLEM. AROUND THE SAME TIME FRAME, I THINK CHAIR SLAGEL SAID.

IF THERE ARE MAJOR CUTS TO DART, IT TRIGGERS POTENTIAL SANCTIONS ON THE REGION BECAUSE WE HAVE PUT A LOT OF THE DART TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IN THE STATE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

SO THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF SENSITIVITY, EVEN THOUGH I PRESENTED IT AT THE RTC LAST MONTH, THAT IF DART ISN'T ABLE TO MAINTAIN ITS COMMITMENTS TO THESE TRANSPORTATION INVESTMENTS, WE'RE INVITING LAWSUITS IN OUR REGION TO SANCTION THE REGION FOR SANCTIONS ON OUR ROADWAY SYSTEM. BECAUSE THE CONGRESS IS SMART ENOUGH 40 YEARS AGO THAT THE ONE THING THAT WILL GET A REGION'S ATTENTION IS SANCTIONS ON THE ROADWAY SYSTEM. THE FIRST WAY TO GET SANCTIONS IS TO NO LONGER HONOR THE COMMITMENTS YOU MADE IN THE STATE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

SO THAT'S MY SECOND WORRY. AND MY THIRD WORRY IS I'M PROUD TO HAVE WORKED IN A IN A REGION THAT SOLVES ITS PROBLEMS AT HOME.

I CAN'T THINK OF A, YOU KNOW, CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY VISIONS FOR THE TRINITY RIVER.

ALL OF THOSE WERE SOLVED AT HOME. WE MAYBE DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE.

YOU KNOW, 345 AND LBJ, NO HIGHER, NO WIDER. THESE ARE ALL THROUGH THE INNOVATION OF THE EFFORTS OF PEOPLE WITHIN THIS REGION.

I JUST DON'T LIKE US TO NOT I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN WE HAVE TO TAKE ISSUES TO TO OTHERS IN THE LEGISLATURE OR SOMETHING TO SOLVE WHAT ARE VERY COMPLICATED QUESTIONS IN OUR PARTICULAR REGION. SO THAT THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE NEXT THING THAT THAT DISAPPOINTS.

AND THEN WE OWE IT TO, TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T CREATE A REGION THAT HAS SO MUCH SUBURBAN SPRAWL AND IT'S JUST NO LONGER A SUSTAINABLE PLACE.

RIGHT. CAN YOU IMAGINE SEVERAL MILLION PEOPLE LOCATING IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS WITHOUT POLICE, FIRE, LONG TERM WATER AND SEWAGE TREATMENT AND EXPECT IT TO BE SUSTAINABLE.

BUT MY NEAR-TERM A LITTLE A LITTLE SELFISH. MY HEAD IS ON THE PLATE WITH REGARD TO FIFA, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME DANGEROUS CONVERSATIONS GOING ON. I DON'T THINK DART WOULD EVER INTEND TO NOT MAKE IT AS SUCCESSFUL AS POSSIBLE, BUT WHY WOULD WE WANT TO MAKE IT A LOT HARDER FOR THEM TO TO DO IT WHEN WE'VE HAD SUCH GREAT CONVERSATIONS AND, AND ELEMENTS AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, UP TO THIS PARTICULAR TIME? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? VERY GOOD. SO JUST OUR DART BOARD MEMBERS, I NEED TO FIND OUT IF I CAN LET YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SINCE YOUR MEETING WAS ADJOURNED.

SO I DON'T MIND. I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE. SO I'LL LET OUR ATTORNEYS ASK, CONTEMPLATE ON THAT.

AND THEN I HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART WHO HAS THE FLOOR NOW.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MORRIS. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. TWO POINTS THAT YOU'RE MAKING.

ONE PARTICULARLY IS ABOUT INFILL AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO OUR MEMBER CITIES, AS WELL AS TO DALLAS INCREASED TAX REVENUE,

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ARE YOU THINKING THE INFILL IS PRIMARILY DEVELOPED IN A RESIDENTIAL CAPACITY, OR IS IT PRETTY MUCH WIDE OPEN? IT SEEMS TO ME HOUSING WOULD BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST NEEDS IF WE'RE GOING TO IF OUR POPULATION IS GOING TO INCREASE.

I ACTUALLY THINK IN I THINK IT HAS TO BE THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE RIGHT PART OF TOWN.

SO YOU GOT PLACES IN TOWN THAT WON'T ACCEPT A RAIL STATION, REGARDLESS OF IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR, OR COMMERCIAL, OR YOU HAVE OTHER PARTS OF TOWN THAT MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE A PARKING LOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE STATION.

I AM HOPING, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR DOWNTOWN DENTON, OLD TOWN LEWISVILLE, STOCKYARDS IN FORT WORTH THAT WE CAN DO MORE LIKE HAPPENING IN GRAPEVINE AND MORE THAT'S HAPPENING LIKE AT MOCKINGBIRD, WHERE YOU HAVE A LIVE WORK AND PLAY DESTINATION THAT PRODUCES SIGNIFICANT SALES TAX REVENUE FOR YOU, AND DART, CREATES THE ABILITY OF NOT HAVING TO NECESSARILY TAKE A CAR OR TAKE LONG TRIPS IN A CAR.

SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN CREATE A VISION IN THOSE TOWNS, IN THAT IN THOSE PARTS OF TOWNS WHERE YOUR CITIZENS ACCEPT DENSITY AND ACCEPT MIXED USE, WHICH IS NOT EVERYWHERE, TO CREATE A LIVE, WORK AND PLAY DESTINATION ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SOMETIMES YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SETTLE WITH JUST A RESIDENTIAL ONLY COMPONENT.

IF YOU DO THAT, WE ARE INTRODUCING THE THE RESIDENTIAL JOB HOUSING BALANCE STRATEGY.

SO YOU LOOK AT A RAIL CORRIDOR , AND YOU LOOK AT ALL THE EMPLOYEES IN THAT QUARTER, AND YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRIBUTION OF HOUSING PRICE FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES, AND THEN YOU ARE WORKING THEN ON A HOUSING STOCK FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES.

SO WE MAY GET A PERSON TO LIVE AND WORK ON THE SAME TRANSIT CORRIDOR, BECAUSE THERE'S ENOUGH HOUSING TO MATCH THE JOBS OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WORK IN THAT PARTICULAR QUARTER. SO AS MORE AS YOU AS YOU PULL THE ONION SKIN BACK ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, I THINK IT IS A SIGNIFICANT TOOL TO HELP YOU WITH THE HOUSING QUESTION.

THANK YOU. AND JUST TO REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THIS, JUST THIS REGION BEING VERY GOOD AT SOLVING PROBLEMS. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW SOME OF THE LANES.

I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT WORD ARE CANTILEVERED OVER THE LOWER LANES ON CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY AND THAT THAT WAS A WAY OF, YOU KNOW, GIVING, GETTING MORE LANES AND MORE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND WHAT YOU HAD TO WORK WITH.

AND THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE NECESSARILY WHY IS SOMETHING THIS WAY AND THAT IT WAS A CREATIVE SOLUTION, SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM. SO I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO ENCOURAGE THAT PROBLEM SOLVING ABILITY.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. I THINK IT'S ONE OF OUR ASSETS, CERTAINLY AS A, AS A CITY.

BUT I THINK AS A REGION AND REALLY AS A STATE AS WELL.

SO WE'LL LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN BACK YOU OR SUPPORT YOU IN THAT.

IF I COULD GIVE YOU TWO QUICK EXAMPLES THAT YOUR YOU PERSONALLY ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT.

WHEN WE WERE DOING LBJ BETWEEN CENTRAL AND STEMMONS, THE NEIGHBORHOODS DIDN'T SUPPORT ANYTHING UNTIL WE SAID, LOOK, IF WE COULD BUILD IT NO HIGHER, NO WIDER, WE DON'T BUY RIGHT OF WAY AND WE DON'T ELEVATE.

WILL YOU LET US PROCEED? WELL THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

YEAH, BUT WE'LL LET YOU PROCEED. AND YOU SEE THE CANTILEVERED FACILITY THAT WAS BUILT THAT WENT NO HIGHER AND NO WIDER.

IT SHOWS YOU THE THE INGENUITY OF THE PEOPLE WITHIN OUR REGION, BOTH IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR.

AND YOU WERE THERE THAT NIGHT 7 OR 8 YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD A TOWN HALL MEETING ON 635 EAST.

TEXTILE WASN'T ALLOWED TO COME. YOU HAD STATE LEGISLATORS THAT WERE CONTROLLING THE LBJ PROJECT.

AND WE HAD 400 PEOPLE IN A IN A CHURCH. AND WE TOOK CONTROL OF THAT PROJECT PERSONALLY.

AND LBJ IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND READY TO OPEN SOON WITH A NEW SKILLMAN AUDELIA BRIDGE.

YES. THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE OF WE TAKING CONTROL BACK OVER AND THE ADULTS IN OUR REGION SOLVING THAT PROBLEM LIKE, I BELIEVE WE CAN HELP WITH THE TRANSIT 2.0, BUT THOSE ARE TWO EXAMPLES YOU'VE WITNESSED.

YES, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY POINT. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT, I HAVE SEEN THAT AT WORK.

AND THEN JUST WHAT THAT HAS DONE FOR TRANSPORTATION, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FOR IT GOES ON AND ON THE BENEFITS FROM USING THAT CREATIVITY AND SOLVING THOSE PROBLEMS. SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THAT THOUGHT PROCESS AND THAT CREATIVITY AND, AND TRUSTING THAT WE DO HAVE SOME INGENUITY IN THIS REGION AND WE CAN SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.

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WHAT WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? AND HOW CAN THAT IMPACT? DART GOES OUT AND SAYS, OKAY, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO PULL OUR BUSSES AND OUR DRIVERS TO OTHER ROUTES.

BUT THIS PARTICULAR ROUTE WE WISH TO CONTRACT TO A PRIVATE SECTOR COMPANY.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'D START WITH, SAY, THE TRINITY RAILWAY EXPRESS, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, PRIVATIZING THAT FOR A MOMENT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT A PRIVATE SECTOR COMPANY WOULD DO.

SO DOES THAT MEAN YOU STILL PAY FOR THE SUBSIDY? IT'S NOT LIKE, RIGHT. SO BUT WHAT YOU DO IS YOU MOVE THE PERFORMANCE METRICS TO THAT PRIVATE COMPANY AND SAY, OKAY, WE WANT YOU TO IF YOU GROW THE RIDERSHIP WE'LL SHARE IN THE REVENUE WE GET FROM THE ADDITIONAL RIDERSHIP WITH YOU.

THAT COMPANY MAY THEN CONTACT EVERY APARTMENT COMPLEX AROUND THAT ROUTE.

IT'S A THEORETICAL AND SIGNING THEM UP FOR MONTHLY TRANSIT PASSES OR EVERY EMPLOYER THEY THEY DO BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO SHARE IN THE REVENUE.

SO THEY MAY WISH TO DEVELOP ON THE COST SAVINGS SIDE, VERY INNOVATIVE SCHEDULES WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY USE AI OR OTHER DATA ABOUT THEIR LOAD FACTORS, AND THEY ADJUST THEIR FREQUENCIES AND IN SOME FORM OR FASHION TO LOWER THEIR COST BY 8%. AND DART SAYS, WELL, FOR EVERY PERCENT YOU LOWER, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME PORTION OF THAT BACK AS A ELEMENT FOR YOU. SO I THINK YOU'D WANT TO SEE WHAT THE BENEFITS ARE TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE OF THE DART DRIVER ISN'T AS STRONG AS IT WOULD BE ON ANOTHER ROUTE WHERE THAT DRIVER HAS BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A PANACEA, BUT YOU MAY WANT TO PILOT TEST SOME OF THEM TO SEE IF IT CAN GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT ON HOW YOU COULD GROW YOUR BUSINESS, INSTEAD OF JUST ASSUMING THE ONLY WAY TO GROW IT IS WITH YOUR OWN SERVICES.

SO AND THAT'S THANK YOU FOR CONNECTING THAT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT BY THE MICRO TRANSIT. MICRO TRANSIT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

INSTEAD OF RUNNING FIXED S ERVICE, YOU WOULD HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A COMPANY COULD BE A PRIVATE COMPANY OR YOUR OWN DRIVERS WHERE YOU'RE USING AN APP AND SAY, LOOK, CAN YOU PICK ME UP AT MY HOUSE, I'M NOT WALKING TO A BUS STOP, AND THEN YOU MAY GET IN A CAR THAT HAS TO STOP THREE TIMES BEFORE IT GETS YOU TO A DESTINATION. GOT IT. THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO DELIVER LOWER DEMAND, LOWER VOLUME SERVICES.

BUT THE COOL PART ABOUT IT IS THAT DATA IS THEN AGGREGATED AND YOU CAN SELF-DECLARE WHEN YOU SAY, OH WELL, FINALLY SO SUCCESSFUL, I NOW CAN SUBSTITUTE A FIXED ROUTE BASED ON THE ONS AND OFFS OF THE MICRO TRANSIT.

SO IT'S A DIFFERENT THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU VICE CHAIRMAN. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MICHAEL MORRIS? I DON'T I'VE HEARD THIS PRESENTATION MULTIPLE TIMES. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

MICHAEL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEARD IT AS A AS A COMMITTEE.

BECAUSE I THINK IT HELPS US TO ALIGN WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND WORK ON AND ESPECIALLY OUR STAFF AS WELL TO, YOU KNOW, SEE WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING. TRANSIT 2.0 IS IT'S A BLUEPRINT FOR WHAT'S COMING IN THE FUTURE.

I GOT TO ATTEND A RECEPTION. WHERE YOU WERE BEING HONORED FOR, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS IT WAS AT THAT TIME, BUT IT WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT STARTED WITH A VIDEO OF YOU TALKING ABOUT.

AND I BELIEVE IT WAS THE CREATION OF DART AND GETTING THIS ENTITY TO START.

AND I DON'T THINK I MENTIONED TO YOU, AND I DON'T THINK YOU EVEN REALIZED OR NOTICED YOU WERE DOING IT RIGHT HERE IN THIS CHAMBER.

BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THE WALLS. AND THAT'S WHY I KNEW AND I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE A LOT OF THE SAME COMMENTS, HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO, WAS A COUPLE OF DECADES, I THINK, BUT AGO WERE THE EXACT SAME SIMILAR ONES THAT ARE HAPPENING NOW IN OTHER ENTITIES. AND IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING HOW THIS HOW THIS HISTORY IS REPEATING ITSELF, BUT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, AND WE CANNOT NOT PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE PREEMINENT ORGANIZATION ON TRANSPORTATION FOR OUR REGION IS TELLING US.

AND WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO AGREE. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SIT AND LISTEN.

AND I WILL SAY THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE, YOU'VE REALLY GONE OUT OF YOUR WAY TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT AVENUES AND WAYS OF DOING THINGS OR WHAT IT IS. AND LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT MOST OF THE TIME I'M GOING TO LISTEN AND THEN SEE HOW IT WORKS

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AND IT'S IT'S ABOUT EDUCATION, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M NOT AN ENGINEER IN THE SENSE OF THE WAY YOU AND YOUR AGENCY ARE.

BUT I AM A POLICYMAKER. AND SO IT'S LIKE, I WANT TO HEAR THE CONTENT EXPERTS AND WHAT THEY THINK.

AND SO, MOST OF US ON THE COUNCIL ARE NOT TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS OR THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.

IT'S LIKE BUT WE'RE ALSO LISTENING TO OUR GENERAL PUBLIC. AND I DO LIKE THAT YOU GO OUT IN HERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO GO TALK TO THE PUBLIC.

AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT BESIDES, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW EVERYTHING I SAY AND DO EXACTLY AS IT SAYS.

BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP OR HELP MITIGATE? BECAUSE I KNOW FEDERAL FUNDING IS WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT AND IT'S CHANGING.

SO THAT'S MY ONE QUESTION. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE $500 MILLION AT RISK THAT WE WON LAST YEAR.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY. WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING IN THOSE, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN CAPS AND ALL THE THINGS WE WERE SO HAPPY ABOUT.

I'M SURE WE'LL. WE'LL SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THEM.

WE JUST HAVE TO LET THE THE COURTS AND THE NEW THE NEW ADMINISTRATION GO THROUGH THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.

BUT I THINK WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE FINE. I THINK YOU MADE A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

IT'S NOT THAT WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE. IT'S THAT WE ALL HAVE TO COMMUNICATE.

AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING NOW IN DART IS THERE'S THERE'S NOT THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS GOING ALONG AROUND BY GOOD FAITH, EFFORT, PEOPLE COMMUNICATING. BUT THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME THAT AREN'T OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH THAT AREN'T COMMUNICATING.

AND THERE'S SOMETHING GOING TO GO ON, THE SHOE WILL FALL.

AND THAT'S THE PART I'M ASKING YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO AND JUST NOT NECESSARILY AGREE OR FOLLOW WHATEVER STEPS WE'RE DOING.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE PATH FORWARD, BUT COMMUNICATE BECAUSE WE ARE AT A CRITICAL PLACE.

WE GOT FIFA COMING. WE GOT A LEGISLATURE THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE OPEN FOR 90 DAYS OR SO.

SO TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. SO COMMUNICATION IS A VERY THIS IS A VERY, VERY CRITICAL TIME TO PAY ATTENTION AND COMMUNICATE.

AND THE MORE ISSUES SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY THE MORE THE RIGHT ANSWER WILL WILL, WILL RESULT FROM THAT PROCESS.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE WORDS AND I COMPLETELY AGREE.

AND WE'RE STARTING EVEN HERE. I CAN SAY WE'RE COMMUNICATING BETTER.

AND EVEN WITH WHETHER IT'S DART OR LEGISLATORS OR, YOU KNOW, EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS IS NO MORE.

OUR WORLD IS JUST CHANGED, WHETHER IT WAS AN ELECTION OR IT WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION INTO THINGS, WHATEVER IT IS, THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE GLOBAL PANDEMIC AND WE HAVE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB.

AND I'M COMMITTED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THREE AND A HALF MONTHS I HAVE LEFT ON THIS BODY.

BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR WORK TOGETHER UNTIL I'M NO LONGER IN THIS BUILDING.

AND AS WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND MAKING DALLAS IN OUR REGION A BETTER PLACE.

AND GLAD THAT YOU'RE PART OF IT. WITH THAT COLLEAGUES, THE TIME IS NOW 3:50 P.M.

AND I CALL TO CLOSE THE FEBRUARY 18TH, 2025 TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. STAY SAFE OUT THERE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.