[Dallas Park and Recreation Board on February 20, 2025.]
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UH, I NOW CALL THE FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025 PARK AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING TO ORDER AT 10:09 AM OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKER, BUT BEFORE WE DO, WE'RE GONNA GO TO MR. SLAUGHTER FOR SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE.HAPPY NEW FOR THOSE YOU DON'T REALIZE THIS, AND LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS ON THIS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT OR ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, BUT BLACK HISTORY IS SO IMPORTANT AND WHAT I LIKE FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT I THINK ALL HISTORY OF ALL RACES ARE IMPORTANT.
I LIKE TO THANK, I CAN'T THANK EVERYBODY, BUT I LIKE TO THANK MARTIN LUTHER KING, MICHAEL DAVIS, AND THOSE PART BECAUSE WITHOUT THEIR INITIATIVE, I WOULDN'T BE SITTING AT THIS TABLE.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THREE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT DIED IN MISSISSIPPI.
I'M GONNA CALL THEIR NAME JAMES CHENEY.
ANDREW GOODMAN AND MICHAEL SHOULDN'T WARNER.
AND PLEASE BELIEVE ME, JUST LIKE BLACK LIVES MATTER, ALL LIVES MATTER.
AND WE AS BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT STAND FOR OUR COMPLIMENTS.
AND THOSE TWO LAST KIDS THAT I CALLED WITH YOU, AND PLEASE REMEMBER THAT PLEASE REMEMBER THAT I ALSO LIKE TO THANK SOMEBODY THAT YOU RECOGNIZED STEVIE VAN, VAN FRONT ME FOR
YOU SAW HIM ON THE SURPRISE, BUT THE MOST DECENT HUMAN BEING THAT I THINK ON EARTH, IF NOT FOR HIM, IF NOT FOR HIM, HIS INITIATIVE, NELSON MANDELA WOULD STILL BE IN PRISON.
REMEMBER THAT? SO IF WE GO ON WITH BLACK HISTORY MONEY, I'M GONNA MAKE THIS QUOTE, AND I'M TAKING IT FROM STEVE BECAUSE I MADE, I AM MY BROTHER'S KEEPER, AND I HAVE NOBODY, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF SOMEBODY.
NOW I'LL READ THE SPEAKER GUIDELINE.
YES, I'LL READ THE SPEAKER GUIDE.
EACH SPEAKER WILL PERSONAL, BOISTEROUS, WHILE SPEAKER GONNA BE
CAN WE HAVE THE CAMERA, THE PERSON ON THE CAMERA, ON THE PHONE.
SCOOT CLOSER TO AUDIENCE VERSUS RIGHT NEXT TO THE QUESTION.
I REQUESTED THE BOARD REMAIN COLLEGE POINT INDIVIDUAL FOR 40, 50 YEARS.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S SOME FOLKS, SEVERAL TIMES.
CAN YOU PUT THE MIC CLOSER TO YOU, PLEASE? JUST THE WHOLE GATHERING.
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HERE AS WELL FOR THEUM, SOME, THE ACCOLADES OF MY FATHER THROUGH THE LAST WEEKEND.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO HONOR MY FATHER BY GIVING HONORS TO MY BABY BROTHER.
MY BABY BROTHER SERVES AS A DPD OFFICER, RIGHT? MY BROTHER, WHEN HE STARTED WITH DD FUNNY THING, HE PATROLLED THE SAME AREA MY DAD DID.
NOW MY BROTHER WORKS AS A DETECTIVE IN THE VIOLENT CRIME DIVISION OF DPD, DOING THE SAME THINGS MY DAD DID.
MY DAD ALSO PASSED AWAY SEVEN YEARS AGO THIS MONTH ON 15TH, DOING JUST WHAT WE KEEP TELLING YOU GUYS.
JIA SMITH IS A TRACK RUNNER WHO WENT TO COLLEGE ON SCHOLARSHIP FROM MY DAD TRAINING HER AND HER.
JIA SMITH WAS THE RUNNER THAT MY DAD ACTUALLY PASSED AWAY SEEKING RUN MY DAD.
HE SAW HE HAD A MASSIVE HEART ATTACK.
HE HIT HIS PAIN, JIA RAN IN HER RACE AND WON HER RACE AND CAME TO THE HOSPITAL.
I JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS FIRST SON IS BEING TRAINED IN HURDLES BY A YOUNG MAN WHO MY DAD TRAINED IN HURDLES.
MY NIECE SITTING BACK THERE, WAS LIVING WITH MY FATHER WHEN HE PASSED.
SHE GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL ON TIME, NO HICCUPS, AND BECAME AN ENTREPRENEUR LIKE MY DAD.
WAS TRAINED IN MECHANICS BY MY DAD, WORKED FOR SOUTH AREA RAPID TRANSIT FOR OVER FIVE YEARS, WORKING ON DARK BUSES.
NOW HE WORKS FOR SNYDER AS A TRUCK DRIVER.
MY ELDEST SON, 23-YEAR-OLD, DAMIEN BARTON JR.
WENT TO THE AIR FORCE IN HONOR OF HIS GRANDDAD.
NOW HE'S SERVING IN TURKEY, MY BABY BOY, BECAUSE OF MY DAD'S ATHLETICISM, TRAINING, AGILITY AND ABILITIES.
MY SON WENT, HE WENT THROUGH FOOTBALL.
HE'S AT EAST TEXAS A AND M UNIVERSITY, STUDYING KINESIOLOGY TO FUTURE BE A SPORTS MEDICINE, BEING SPORTS, MEDICINE, PHYSICAL CARE, ALL OF THOSE ACCOLADES COME FROM THE BONES, THE BLOOD, THE STRUCTURE OF FAHEEM.
JA, ONE OF HIS GREAT NIECES, SO PROUD OF HER.
SHE HAS THE FIRST STUDENT OWNED, UM, VENDING MACHINE FOR HAIR CARE PRODUCTS AT E TEXAS A AND M.
HIS GRANDSON, WHO HE HELPED RAISE AS WELL, OWNS A BARBERSHOP AND TATTOO PARTNER.
THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAT UNDER, BEEN TAUGHT BY, BEEN MENTORED BY FAJA.
THIS IS WHY WE ASK FOR YOU TO HONOR HIM BY RENAMING A PARK WHERE FAMILIES CAN COME AND GATHER, PLAY, PARTICIPATE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
AND HAVE YOU BEEN, THAT'S YOUR TIME.
MY NAME IS DEVONTE DEEP LEADERS.
I'M THE OWNER OF THE ALKALINE HOUR HEALTH STORE IN OAK CLIFF.
I'VE BEEN THERE DOWN THE STREET FROM, UM, THE SAME COMMUNITY.
UM, I'M ALSO A CANDIDATE FOR DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, INSPIRED ME TO, TO RUN IS TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF MY COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WE'RE UNHEARD.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET, UH, UH, OUR VOICES AT THE TABLE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, HERE TODAY, AND, AND WE'VE BEEN HERE MULTIPLE TIMES, WE KEEP VOICING OUR, UH, FRUSTRATIONS, OUR CONCERNS, AND OUR, UM, WISHES, OUR HOPES, UM, TO, UH, HOW WE WOULD LIKE OUR, UH, COMMUNITY TO LOOK.
YOU KNOW? SO WE'RE ASKING Y'ALL AS REPRESENTATIVES TO HEAR OUR VOICES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, BE ON THE SIDE OF THE PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? UM, YOU, I KNOW THERE MIGHT BE PERSONAL, UH, ISSUES AS TO WHY, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WANT TO DO THIS, BUT I SAY LOOK PAST THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HERE IS, IS DEFINITELY, UH, MOTIVATED TO DO THAT.
UM, LIKE I SAID, I'M A BUSINESS OWNER.
I'M, I'M INSPIRED BY A LOT OF THE PEOPLE, UM, THAT WE
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MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT.OR, UM, SOME OF THE NON-FAMOUS, UH, BLACK, UH, HISTORY, UH, PEOPLE SUCH AS, UH, MARK CHARLES, THE CHARLES BEASLEYS, THE, UH, FAHEEM, JAY MKA.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE LOOK UP TO, UM, OR I LOOK UP TO PERSONALLY.
AND I WOULD SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST LOOKING INTO HIS HISTORY, THIS IS SOMEBODY, UM, THAT I COULD SEE, UM, THAT I COULD PATTERN IN MY, UH, MY LEADERSHIP AFTER, UH, IN MY C YOU KNOW, TIME TO TIME AGAIN.
UH, YOU WANT, UM, YEAH, WE JUST WANT Y'ALL TO SUPPORT THIS.
FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THANK Y'ALL FOR LISTENING, AND PLEASE CONSIDER TO, UH, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING MS. UNANIM.
THANK, UH, NEXT SPEAKER JOHN ER.
JUST WANNA REAFFIRM A FEW POINTS THAT WE'VE MADE OVER THE PAST YEAR BY CHANGING THE NAME OF COLLEGE FUND, FA J COMMUNITY PARTNER.
YOU'LL BE HONOR A GRASSROOTS LEADER, THE MAN WHO WAS OF HIS TIME AND AHEAD OF HIS TIME.
MKA WAS OF HIS TIME IN THE WAY THAT HE WORKED AS A STREET LEVEL COMMUNITY ORGANIZER IN THE STRUGGLES OF THE DAY FOR THE RECOGNITION AND EXPANSION OF HUMAN RIGHTS FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN DALLAS.
FAHE WAS OFTEN AT ODDS WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF CITY HALL, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN HE INSISTED THAT POLICING SHOULD RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF BLACK RESIDENTS.
HE WORKED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD AND LI TENANT RIGHTS ORGANIZATION TO IMPROVE HOUSING CONDITIONS AMONG PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE FINANCIALLY.
HE ORGANIZED AMONG HIS NEIGHBORS IN SOUTH DALLAS TO CONFRONT THE LOCAL DRUG DEALER.
HE WAS A TRACK STAR IN COLLEGE, AND AS JAMIA SAID, HE BECAME A HIGHLY RESPECTED RUNNING COACH.
HE WAS LEGENDARY, ACCORDING TO THE ATHLETIC WEBSITE, MILES SPLIT TEXAS.
AND AS SHE SAID, HE WAS IN FACT, AT A TRACK MEET SEVEN YEARS AGO THIS MONTH WHEN HE DIED OF HEART ATTACK.
HE WAS AHEAD OF HIS TIME IN THE WAY LEADERS WHO CHALLENGED THE STATUS QUO OFF AND ON BAR.
HE WAS NOT AMONG THE LEADERSHIP OF THE TOP BUSINESSES, THE WEALTHY FOUNDATIONS, AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT OF DALLAS.
HE WAS A LEADER NONETHELESS, A NECESSARY CATALYST FOR CHANGE.
HE CHANGED DALLAS FOR THE BETTER.
LET'S HONOR THAT BY CHANGING THE NAME OF COLLEGE PARK IN REMEMBRANCE OF THIS GOOD AND FEARLESS MANNER.
NEXT SPEAKER, W MARVIN DELANEY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
UM, I'M, I'M PROFESSOR MEREDITH FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS ARLINGTON.
AND I KNEW
AND UM, OF COURSE, CURRENTLY I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN A PARK.
SO ACTUALLY THE INSTITUTIONS THAT THIS BOARD, I GUESS, SUPERVISES.
ANYWAY, UM, I
BAHE WAS IN THAT, IN THAT EXHIBITION.
HE CALLED ME OVER THE PHONE ONE DAY WHILE THAT EXHIBITION WAS BEING EXHIBITED AND TOLD ME WE HAD GOTTEN IT WRONG.
AND HE CALLED US OUT ABOUT THE CITY THAT OCCURRED HERE IN DALLAS, 1968 AT THE CASE OF THE MARKET.
AND THE DE, HE CORRECTED US, AND WE INDEED TOOK THAT PADDLE DOWN AND CORRECTED ON THE, ON BEHALF OF, UH,
LET ME JUST SAY, UM, AT THAT POINT, I WAS, UH, THOROUGHLY OPPRESSED BY HIS COURAGE, HIS DEDICATION, AND HIS INTEGRITY.
SO MUCH SO THAT, THAT IN, IN 1992, HE GAVE FAHEEM THE ANTONIO MACEO SMITH COMMUNITY SERVICE
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AWARD.AND OF COURSE, WE WERE GIVE THAT TO PEOPLE WHO WE THINK MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
OF COURSE, WE WERE THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED AT THAT TIME THAT HE HAD STARTED AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN AGAINST NARCOTICS.
AND THE DEAN HAVE A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON DEALING WITH THE DRUG PROBLEM.
I ALSO GOT THE OPPORTUNITY NEXT TO HIS FAMILY THAT ARE, THAT ARE HERE NOW.
UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, LOOKING IN PAPERS, HE KEPT A WONDERFUL COLLECTION OF DOCUMENTS THAT ARE, THAT WE ARE HELPED TO GET AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY NOW.
SO LET'S JUST SAY HE'S A HERO IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, WE AT THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM, UH, AS I SAID, LISTED AMONG THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARDS HAVE BEEN GIVEN OUT, AND INDEED ONE OF THE VERY SPECIAL PERSONS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THIS COMMUNITY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE HISTORY OF DALLAS.
YOUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SCOTT LARSON.
I AM A LONG TERM DALLAS RESIDENT, CURRENTLY DESIGNING IN NORTH OAK CLIFF IN
I'M A REGULAR USER OF THE FIVE MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSES, FREQUENTLY PLAYING TWO OR THREE TIMES.
I'M HERE TODAY TO VOICE MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPARENT LACK OF NEW TREES TO REPLACE THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN DAMAGED AND REMOVED.
DUE TO THE NUMEROUS STORMS DALLAS HAS EXPERIENCED OVER THE PAST FOUR TO FIVE YEARS, MARK DEPARTMENT HAS DONE AN ADMIRABLE JOB TRIMMING AND REMOVING DAMAGE AND DOWN TREES ON THE GOLF COURSES, PARTICULARLY THE CEDARS, WHICH ARE LESS STURDY THAN THE OTHER NATIVE TREES.
HOWEVER, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF A CONCERTED EFFORT TO REPLACE THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
ALL FIVE COURSES IN MY OBSERVATION, HAVE WIDER FAIRWAYS, LESS SHADE, AND ARE MUCH LESS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING THAN THEY WERE SIX TO SEVEN YEARS AGO.
A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF THIS IS REMOVAL OF TWO MASSIVE TREES BEHIND THE GREEN AT THE 12TH HOLE AT CEDAR CREST.
NOW ALL YOU SEE IS THE PRACTICE GREEN.
IN PLANNING FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO ENJOY THESE PARK VENUES, I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER A ROBUST LONG-TERM COMMITMENT TO PLANTING ONE TREE FOR EVERY TREE THAT IS REMOVED, AND TO JUMPSTART THE PROGRAM WITH A MASSIVE PLANNING AND PLANTING EXERCISE, SUCH THAT IN FIVE TO 10 YEARS, THE PROGRAM WILL HAVE A LASTING AND LONG-TERM IMPACT FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 40 YEARS.
PARK DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS AN EXISTING PARTNERSHIP WITH TEXAS TREES FOUNDATION, WHICH COULD BE ONE SOURCE FOR THE NEW TREES.
I NOTE THAT EVERY NEW TREE REQUIRES IRRIGATION LINK TO ENSURE THE TREE GROWS AND THRIVES IRRIGATION AND DRAINAGE AT ALL.
THE COURSES IS AN ONGOING AND CRITICAL ISSUE.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS OLD AND GETTING CONFIDENT.
IRRIGATION PROFESSIONALS IS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, A CONSTANT AND ONGOING PROBLEM.
THERE ARE SOME HOLES WHERE PORTIONS OF THE FAIRWAY ARE ALMOST ALWAYS UNPLAYABLE THE 10TH AT STEVENS THE THIRD AND SIXTH AT KEATON PARK, AND THE SECOND AT LOMIS THAT COME TO MIND.
I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER ADOPTING A PLAN AND THE REQUISITE FUNDING TO ENSURE THE PLANNING REPLACEMENT TREES, AS WELL AS ADDRESSING THE COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION TO THE AGING IRRIGATION SYSTEMS AS PRIORITIES FOR THESE HIGHLY VALUED AND VERY WELL USED ASSETS OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME VISITATION, MARK.
UM, NEXT, NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR THE FEBRUARY 6TH, 2025 MEETING.
THE, UH, FIRST BY MR. SLAUGHTER SECOND
NEED DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AGAIN, UM, MINUTES THE APPROVED.
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, CONSIDER AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR.
UH, YEAH, WE ARE CONSIDERED AGENDA,
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UH, ITEMS NUMBER 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR.CAN I MAKE A MOTION FOR, FOR
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ON THE DEDICATION PLAQUE, HOLD ON.
I NEED A MOTION TO SEPARATE YOU FROM THE AGENDA.
SO CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO SEPARATE THE RIVER SHAW PARK IDENTIFICATION PLAQUE? DO I HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA SEPARATE ITEM NUMBER ONE.
SO FIRST WE'LL MOVE TO OUR CONSIDERED AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
MR. SLAUGHTER, YOU NEED ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALRIGHT, NOW BACK ITEM NUMBER ONE.
CAN, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO INCLUDE FORMER PART BOARD MEMBER JEFF KITNER ON THIS PLAQUE OF THE RIVERTOWN BALLFIELD RENOVATION? PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND? UH, YES, PLEASE.
UH, IT IS NOT UNPRECEDENTED BOARD.
IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST WHERE A BOARD MEMBER JUST LEFT AND THE BOARD MADE AN EXCEPTION TO THE PLA POLICY AND DECIDED THEY WANTED TO HAVE BOTH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS LISTED, UH, ON THE, UH, PLAQUE WHERE THEY WANTED TO ADD A BOARD MEMBER TO, TO THE PLA.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOARD HAS, HAS THAT BACKGROUND.
RIGHT? HE WAS HERE FOR THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THIS.
SO NOW WE'RE VOTING ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, ADDING MR. KITNER'S NAME TO THE PLAQUE.
THAT SOUND IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
I CAME ON THE BOARD AS MR. SLAUGHTER, MS. COLLINS, BRAD HARRISON, BLAIR, SEVEN AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
AND WE INVOLVED DEEPLY IN THE
AND I THINK HE DESERVES TO BE ON THERE ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATELY.
SO WE ARE VOTING NUMBER ONE WITH THE, WITH THE SHEET PLUS THE ADDITION OF MR. NER NAME.
OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES NOW FOR INDIVIDUAL, UH, ITEM FOR DIVISION CONSIDERATION.
NUMBER FIVE, COLLEGE PARK NAMINGS COURTRIGHT, THE NAME CHANGE OF COLLEGE PARK TO THE FAMINE.
JAY MINKA COMMUNITY PARK AT BONNA VIEW ROAD AND HIGHLAND WOODS DRIVE FINANCING NO COST CONSIDERATION TO THE CITY BOARD.
DISCUSSION ITEM, JANUARY 23RD, 25.
MR. LAGGAN, ANY DISCUSSION MR. SLAUGHTER? MY YES, SIR.
THAT FIRST OF ALL, YOU BE HERE.
MY ESTEEM BOARD MEMBERS, I'M GOING TO SCHOOL.
YOU WANNA COME SEE YOUR FELLOW STUDENTS? AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL ABOUT THIS BOARD.
WE A NOW, UH, WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH THIS AND WE SEEN WHAT THIS GUY, THIS MAN I WANT SAY GUY HAS DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, IT WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN US LONG THAT THIS FAMILY HAD MILLIONS OF DOGS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S SITTING IN THE SEAT, IT WAS NOT INHERITED.
YOUR GRANDMOTHER, YOUR DADDY, YOUR MAMA DIDN'T DIE.
SO YOU'RE SITTING IN THE SEATS BECAUSE THEY'RE SITTING IN THE SEATS.
BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY ELECTED SOMEBODY THAT NOMINATED YOU.
IF YOU DON'T VOTE WITH ME OR AGREE WITH ME, I DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY GOOD MORNING.
SO SAYING GOOD MORNING TO YOU ASKING HOW YOUR FAMILY IS OR MAYBE THAT I REALLY CARE ABOUT YOU.
BUT WHAT I DO TAKE PERSONAL WHEN YOU HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PUT HERE FOR.
THERE'S A SONG OUT BY THE OJ GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT.
IF THE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENTS THAT AREA, COUNCILMAN ATKINS, STATE SENATOR ROY WEST,
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JOHN WILEY, YON DAVIS THINKS THAT IT SHOULD BE DONE.SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE WITH ME.
I'M STILL GONNA SHAKE YOUR HAND AND ASK YOU OUT FOR AN ARTERY, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WELL WE CAN PUT HERE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
DON'T TELL THIS COMMUNITY WHAT THEY NEED.
IF YOU LIVE IN NORTH DALLAS, I BLESS YOU AND I DON'T VOTE FOR THIS.
NEXT, NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS, UH, NUMBER SIX, MONTFORD DRIVE.
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THE ELK FEE OF APPROXIMATELY 79,933 SQUARE FEET OF IMPROVED LAND 1.84 ACRES, ADDRESSES AS ADDRESSED AS 13 13 3 0 5 BUNKER DRIVE FOR THE FUTURE INTERNATIONAL COMMONS NOT TO EXCEED $11,310,000 FROM 11,250,000 BUCKS, PLUS CLOSING COST AND TOTAL EXPENSES, NOT 50 60,000 FINANCING, PARK AND RECREATION FACILITIES FUND 2024 GENERAL VISION BOND FUND, 9,480,672 MALL, MALL AREA TIER FUND, 1,829,328 E AND D COMMITTEE CONSIDERED ON FEBRUARY, 2025.
HAVE A MOTION, MS. HASLEY, SECOND BY MR. GREENY.
ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ON FAVOR? OH, GO AHEAD, MR. GO AHEAD.
THANK THIS PROJECT IS A PART OF OUR DISTRICT IN DISTRICT 11, AND, UH, I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS IN OUR LAST BOARD MEETING.
UH, I THINK THAT THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DEVELOPMENT STARTED PRIOR TO ME BEING ON THE BOARD, THOUGH I WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE CONVERSATIONS.
SO I ASKED THIS BOARD TO APPROVE THIS MEASURE BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THOSE, UH, AREAS WHERE PARK THAT I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER BE ABLE TO ATTAIN THIS TYPE OF PROPERTY AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
SO I JUST ASK YOU YOUR COURT ON THIS MEASURE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE HANDS UP, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.
THOSE ARE ALL RULING ITEMS. NEXT, WE'LL GO TO OUR BRIEFING.
UH, NUMBER SEVEN, PARK AND LAND DEDICATION UPDATE.
MORNING, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I'M JOINED WITH, UH, LI ER OF COURSE, WHO IS OUR
AND WE WANTED TO UPDATE YOU TODAY, UM, ON, UH, RECENT, UM, MEETING WE HAD WITH CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, LAST WEEK, AND KIND OF SHARE WITH YOU, UM, SOME AMENDMENTS THEY MADE AND, UM, KIND OF WHERE THINGS STAND RELATED TO OUR, UM, NEW ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE HOPEFULLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL VERY SOON.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND ALL THE, ALL THE PARTNERS THAT IT TAKES TO, TO HAVE A CODE AMENDMENT BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND PART OF THAT PROCESS, OF COURSE, IS GOING THROUGH, UH, DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT PROCESS, WHICH INVOLVES
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, UP THE SLIDE DECK, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE WENT TO ZAC, UH, IN OCTOBER AND THEN IN DECEMBER.
AND ZAC RECOMMENDED, UH, APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, WITHOUT ANY CHANGES.
AND JUST AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, UM, I THINK YOU WILL RECALL THAT THE INTENT OF OUR, UM, OF OUR REVISED ORDINANCE IS OF COURSE, TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH NEW STATE LAW AND TO REALLY TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIMPLIFY THE EXISTING ORDINANCE, WHICH HAS BEEN RELATIVELY COMPLICATED IN THE PAST.
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AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE SO ANYONE CAN UNDERSTAND WHETHER DEVELOPING COMMUNITY OR NOT.SO AT CPC, LAST THURSDAY, UM, THERE WERE TWO KEY AMENDMENTS.
UH, ONE WAS, UM, RELATIVELY INNOCUOUS, WHICH WAS, UM, A MOTION TO AN AMENDMENT TO, TO ALLOW A DEVELOPER TO RECEIVE A 15% FEE CREDIT SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO DEVELOP A TRAILHEAD IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE LOCATED ON A TRAIL.
THE SECOND AND, AND MORE IMPACTFUL WAS THE MOTION AND AMENDMENT TO REDUCE THE RECOMMENDED FEES BY 50%.
UM, THAT AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED, UH, BY P COMMISSION.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THEY VOTED ON THE, ON THE AMENDED ORDINANCES, WHICH WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY, BY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY.
SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE DETAILS, UM, KIND OF WHERE WE STAND WITH FEES.
SO THE TOP OF THE TABLE YOU CAN SEE ARE CURRENT ORATES, THE, WHAT I TYPICALLY NOW REFER TO AS THE OLD ORDINANCES.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY FEE WAS 1165 PER DWELLING UNIT, MULTIFAMILY ONE BED, 4 57, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
THE RECOMMENDED FEES THAT WE HAD, UH, IN THE ORDINANCE, YOU CAN SEE THAT RELATIVELY MODEST, UH, INCREASES WERE RECOMMENDED.
SINGLE FAMILY GOING TO 1308 MULTIFAMILY, ONE BEDROOM, 6 54, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE FEE INCREASES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED.
AND, YOU KNOW, AS I SHARED WITH CITY PLAN COMMISSION LAST WEEK, WE HAVE NOT HAD A SINGLE FEE INCREASE SINCE THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN PLACE.
AND SO, UM, THIS WAS, UH, IN OUR OPINION, UH, A REASONABLE RECOMMENDATION TO KIND OF, UM, CATCH UP AND GO FORWARD.
SO THE NEXT LINE ON THE TABLE, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE CPC RECOMMENDATION WAS TO REDUCE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE FEES BY 50%.
YOU CAN SEE THE IMPACT THERE, TAKING SINGLE FAMILY DOWN TO 6 54.
AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM OF THE TABLE, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE IMPACT TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCES FEES OR REDUCTION OF 43% FOR SINGLE FAMILY, 28 FOR MULTIFAMILY MONTH VETERANS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO THEY RECOMMENDED TO REDUCE THE, UM, RECOMMENDED FEES BY 50%.
AND THEN THESE PERCENTAGES HERE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE TABLE REPRESENT THE REDUCTION FROM THE OLD OR CURRENT ORDINANCES FEES.
SO IT'S A, THIS IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OF COURSE TO, UM, TO OUR REVENUE GENERATION FROM THIS, FROM THIS FUNDING SOURCE.
IF YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS, UH, TABLE SHOWS YOU, UM, THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE IMPACTED JUST LIKE WE ARE BY THE BILL 1526.
YOU CAN SEE AUSTIN'S FEES RANGE FROM 2200 A UNIT UP TO 6,800 A UNIT.
THEY ARE FAR AND AWAY THE MOST EXPENSIVE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT FORT WORTH HAS A FLAT 2% FEE METHODOLOGY, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING.
THAT IS 2% OF THEIR MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, WHICH THE CASE OF FORT WORTH IS 90,000 A YEAR.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR, UH, RECOMMENDED WAS.
AND THEN THE CPCS RECOMMENDATION.
SO THE, THE POINT HERE IS SHOWING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CPC RECOMMENDATION WAS DRAMATICALLY BELOW, UM, THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE STATE LAW.
THE NEXT TABLE, SORRY, IF YOU COULD GO ONE BACK, THIS IS SLIDE FIVE.
THIS IS SHOWING, UM, THE FEES FROM SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES AROUND TOWN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE NUMBERS THERE.
OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE LARGELY IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES AND THEIR FEES.
THE SOUTHLAKE KIND OF BEING THE OUTLIER THERE AT 6,500 PER UNIT.
PLANO A LITTLE BIT ON THE PRICE SIDE TOO, BUT VERY MUCH IN ALIGNMENT WITH, YOU KNOW, 40 AND ARLINGTON.
SO AGAIN, OUR PROPOSED, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS WERE IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME KIND OF, UM, IMMEDIATE IMPACTS AS WE SEE 'EM.
SO IF YOU CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, AND THESE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY OBVIOUS.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE, THE CURRENT SLASH OLD ORDINANCES IS, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT THERE ARE SEVEN IFICATION
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ZONES, BUT THESE WERE SUCH THAT IF WE HAD ENOUGH SEGMENTATION WITHIN THE ZONES THAT IT WAS, IT TOOK US A LONG TIME TO BE ABLE TO AGGREGATE ENOUGH FUNDS IN EACH OF THE ZONES IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE, THE, THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS TO GO OUT AND MAKE A LAND ACQUISITION, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO SHRINK, UH, THE NUMBER OF ZONES TO FIVE, THEREFORE, THE FUNDS THAT HAVE TO ACCUMULATE MORE QUICKLY.BUT WITH THESE RECOMMENDED FEES, IT REALLY MEANS THAT I DON'T SEE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE FEES TO ACCUMULATE QUICKLY ENOUGH, UM, TO BE REALLY, TO BE ABLE EVER TO BUY, UM, LAND IN TOWN.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE MOST RECENT, RECENT ACQUISITIONS THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU HAVE HAD LAND VALUES AND THE HALF MILLION TO MILLION DOLLAR ACRE RANGE.
UM, AND SO I JUST, I JUST DON'T SEE REALLY THE, THE FEE RECOMMENDATION BEING ABLE EVER ABLE TO ACCRUE TO A POINT THAT WE'LL ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND BUY A PIECE OF LAND.
UM, SO THAT MEANS THAT WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO STRONGLY CONSIDER INCLUDING, UH, MEANINGFUL LAND ACQUISITION DOLLARS IN FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS BECAUSE WE WON'T REALLY BE ABLE TO RELY, UM, ON THIS FUNDING MECHANISM, UH, FOR LAND ACQUISITION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY HAS A CASCADE EFFECT.
WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO THE OTHER TYPES OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY BEEN FOUNDED IN BOND PROGRAMS, PLAYGROUNDS AND REC CENTERS, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF MEANINGFUL DOLLARS THAT, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATED TOWARDS LAND ACQUISITION TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO, TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON PARK ACCESS AND, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE PARK SYSTEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE THIRD POINT THERE IS KIND OF A REATION OF WHAT I SAID A SECOND AGO.
I JUST REALLY SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE ZONES ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ACCUMULATE ENOUGH MONEY WITHIN THAT TIME YEAR, THAT 10 YEAR TIMEFRAME, WHICH IS THE REFUND WINDOW.
UM, APPLICANTS ARE ELIGIBLE TO, UH, REQUEST A REFUND IF THE FUNDS AREN'T EXPENDED IN 10 YEARS.
AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO DO VERY KIND OF SMALL, RELATIVELY SMALL PARK IMPROVEMENTS WITH THOSE DOLLARS, UM, INSTEAD OF LAND ACQUISITION.
AND THEN OF COURSE, IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE COST OF INFLATION.
WE KNOW THE LAND VALUES ARE INCREASING AT A RATE THAT'S VERY CHALLENGING FOR US TO KIND OF KEEP UP WITH FROM OUR FUNDING SOURCES.
SO THAT WAS A VERY QUICK, UH, KIND OF OVERVIEW OF, OF WHERE WE STAND, BUT WE DID WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT, UM, OF COURSE THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE SHARING, UM, AN UPDATE WITH THE PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE, PERHAPS AS SOON AS NEXT MONTH.
AND THEN IT WILL BE COMING TO, UH, THE CODE OF THEM WILL BE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL MOST LIKELY IN MARCH OR APRIL OF THIS YEAR.
BUT WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS KIND OF A PURPORTED, UM, DECISION THAT, UH, PLAN COMMISSION, UM, UH, THIS WEEK.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WE'LL GO TO MS, UH, DIRECTOR JENKINS FIRST.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD AND JUST PROVIDE SOME QUICK BACKGROUND TO THE BOARD.
UH, IF YOU ALL MAY RECALL, I WANNA SAY IT WAS EIGHT YEARS AGO AROUND WHEN WE GOT THE PARK DEDICATION FEE IN PLACE.
AND I JUST WANNA PROVIDE THE BOARD BACKGROUND.
YOU KNOW, RYAN O'CONNOR, HE PERSONALLY WORKED ON GETTING OUR HEART DEDICATION FEE IN PLACE AND HE WORKED WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.
HE WORKED WITH TRACK, YOU KNOW, THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL, AND EVERYONE CAME TO A, AN AGREEMENT WHAT WOULD BE REASONABLE ON SETTING PART DEDICATION FEES.
AND SO FAST FORWARD, AND THEN TWO YEARS AGO DURING THE STATE LEGISLATION, IF YOU MAY RECALL, BRIAN AND I HAD TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOWN THERE.
OH, WE RECALL, YES, BECAUSE THERE WAS A BILL OUT THERE THAT WAS GONNA DRASTICALLY CHANGE, UH, OUR PART DEDICATION FEES FROM THE STATE.
AND BRIAN WORKED DIRECTLY WITH THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL.
WE WAS ABLE TO ONCE AGAIN, GET SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE AND COME TO A COMPROMISE THAT WOULDN'T SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT OUR PART DEDICATION.
AND ONCE AGAIN, WHEN IT WAS BECAUSE IN THAT NEW BILL YOU HAD TO RESET AND CHANGE YOUR ZONES OR HOW YOU CALCULATE RYAN WENT BACK OUT AGAIN WITH THE, GOTTA REMEMBER TRACK.
AND ONCE AGAIN, GOT EVERYBODY, GET ON AGREEMENT ON WHAT WILL BE A REASONABLE DEDICATION FEE THAT WON'T IMPACT DEVELOPERS SIGNIFICANTLY THAT EVERYBODY COULD AGREE TO.
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THE NUMBERS YOU THAT YOU SAW RYAN AND LAKEISHA LAKEISHA SENDING NEXT TO YOU ALL PRESENTED ONCE AGAIN TO TRACK, WENT THROUGH THE CPC, WENT THROUGH THE, I THINK THE ZONING, THE ZAC, AND THIS WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR ABILITY TO ACQUIRE LAND ACQUISITIONS IN THE FUTURE.BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, ALL THE WORK THAT WAS PUT IN TO GET FOLKS TO ALL COME TO AN AGREEMENT WHY THIS WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY, UH, IS BEING PROPOSED, CHANGING, CHANGING THAT.
AND SO WE DIDN'T, WE PURPOSELY DIDN'T PUT A LOT OF MONEY OF REQUESTS FOR LAND ACQUISITION IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM BECAUSE WE KNEW WE HAD THE PARK DEDICATION FEES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THE BACKGROUND TO THE BOARD.
THIS WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO OUR ABILITY TO ACQUIRE LAND ACQUISITION.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE SOME PARK DESERTS THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO ACQUIRE LAND IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE EVERY RESIDENT RESIDENT IN THIS CITY HAS ACCESS TO GREEN SPACE.
THIS WILL NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.
UH, WE'LL GO TO OUR COLLEAGUE, MY COLLEAGUE NOW, MR. DICKEY.
THANK THANK YOU, MR. VICE PRESIDENT.
UH, WELL, THIS IS REALLY BAD NEWS.
ACTUALLY, UH, I JUST ADD A POINT OF FACT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UH, WHEN THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL INTRODUCED IT, UH, THEY WERE PARTICULARLY UPSET ABOUT AUSTIN'S FEE BEING HIGH.
AND SO THEY WROTE, THEY PUT IT WAY DOWN WHEN WE CAME IN WITH OURS THAT HAD BEEN NEGOTIATED.
SO WE ACTUALLY WERE DOING GREAT.
UH, AND NOW FOR THIS 50% CUT IN EVEN THAT, I I, ONE OF TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE IS, CAN YOU GIMME A SENSE OF WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION WAS AT PLAN COMMISSION? I HAVEN'T HEARD THE HEARING.
AND THEN SECOND, IS IT TWO THIRDS AT THE COUNCIL TO OVERTURN CPC UH, 10 VOTES, OR WHAT'S THE VOTE COUNT FIRST, CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT THEIR JUSTIFICATION WAS AND THEN WHAT'S IT GONNA TAKE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO OVERTURN IT? YES, SIR.
AND I'LL ASK LAKEISHA TO CHIME IN IF I DON'T RECALL ALL THE FACTS 100% ACCURATELY.
BUT THE CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION AND THE, AND THE CONTEXT OF THE, OF THE MOTION TO EVENT WAS VERY MUCH, UM, YOU KNOW, FEES IN GENERAL ACROSS THE CITY ARE RISING.
WE HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHALLENGE IN, IN DALLAS.
AND ANYTHING, I'M, I'M SPEAKING FOR THE, FOR THE CIC, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE NEED TO DO THAT.
SO IT WAS JUST, IT WAS REALLY THE CONTEXT OF, UM, THIS IS AN IMPACT FEE.
UH, WE NEED TO, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S REALLY EASY TO, TO DEVELOP IN DALLAS AND VERY AFFORDABLE.
AND WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO ENCOURAGE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, EVEN IF THAT MEANS LOWERING ANY FEE BEING CONSIDERED.
UM, LAKEISHA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? I THINK IT'S ALSO IN THE CONTEXT THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DID RAISE FEES, BUT THEY HAD ALREADY KEYED IN 10 YEARS.
WE DID
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DEFEND WHY WE PROPOSED CERTAIN FEES PER SE, BECAUSE WE WERE BEING HEARD AT THE SAME TIME AS PARK.
AND SO I THINK SOME THINGS GOT LOST IN TRANSLATION.
SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO COMMUNICATE TO CITY PLANNING MISSION THAT THE AVERAGE VALUE PER ACRE PER DOWNTOWN IS $4 MILLION PER ACRE.
AND THAT'S ONLY THE LEAD BECAUSE THE HP 1526 ONLY ALLOWS US TO CALCULATE THE LEAD VALUE.
IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THE LAND AND IMPROVEMENT VALUE.
UM, HOW MUCH ACRE FOR OUR URBAN AREAS FOR ACQUISITION OF LAND ONLY IS $425,000 PER ACRE.
AND SO I THINK IF WE HAD BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND EMPHASIZE SOME OF THOSE POINTS, THEY WOULD'VE UNDERSTOOD THESE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
BUT WE WERE IN BETWEEN THE PARKING HEARING, WHICH HAS BEEN TAKEN A LOT OF TIME.
AND I THINK THEY'VE TRYING TO FIND ZERO IN ON THAT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON
BUT ALSO, I MEAN, WE MADE THE FEE COMPARISONS VERY, VERY CLEAR.
WE SPENT AN HOUR IN THE MORNING SESSION
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OF CPC CHEERING WITH THE PLAN COMMISSION WHERE OUR CURRENT FEES ARE, WHERE THEY STACK UP AGAINST SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES.SO THEY HAD A VERY CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT OUR FEES WERE, WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING, AND, AND HOW THEY COMPARE TO SUBURBAN COMMUNITIES FOR, FOR A COMPETITIVE PERSPECTIVE.
BUT TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION, MR. DICKEY, UH, MS. LANDERS JUST INFORMED ME THAT IT'S NOT A TWO THIRDS VOTE, IT'S A THREE QUARTER VOTE THAT'S REQUIRED BY COUNCIL TO OVERTURN, UM, A DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT THE AMENDED, UM, THE AMENDED MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WAS, WAS APPROVING UNANIM.
I CAN MAKE MR. DICKEY, UH, MR. KAIN.
SO AS, AS A, AS A PARK BOARD MEMBER THERE, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE LEARN AND, AND KIND OF PICK UP THROUGH THE YEARS.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC IS ONE THAT I, I, I, I PROBABLY STRUGGLED WITH.
SO I FIGURE IF, IF, IF I KIND OF STRUGGLE WITH UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, THEN THE AVERAGE DALLAS CITIZEN MIGHT STRUGGLE AS WELL.
SO I, I WANT TO ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND JUST ANSWER ME LIKE, I'M FIVE.
SO WHEN, WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN AND, AND THEY BUILD THINGS, THEY NEED TO PAY SOME FEES, IT WAS A CERTAIN FEE.
OUR DEVELOPER FRIENDLY CPC SAID CUT IT IN HALF, BUT WE GET HALF THE MONEY.
UM, AND THAT'S LOWER FROM A PERCENTAGE WISE, UH, THAN OTHER NEARBY CITIES BY A LOT.
AND OUR DEVELOPER FRIENDLY CCP CCCS NO PROBLEM WITH THIS.
SO NEXT STEPS, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE IMPORTANT MEETINGS IN MARCH WHERE WE RALLY OUR PARK LOVING FRIENDS AND WE STORM CITY HALL BECAUSE PARKS WERE FOR THE PEOPLE.
AND, UH, AND, AND PEOPLE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S THE EXPLANATION I NEED.
ACTUALLY, NO, THAT, NO, THANK YOU.
UM, IT'S REALLY, UH, I THINK THAT'S, I STAND WITH ALL OF MY FELLOW, OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN SO MUCH PROGRESS, UH, THROUGH THE MAYORS INITIATIVES, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE MORE GREEN SPACES IN OUR CITY.
WE'VE WORKED CLEARLY VERY HARD ON THIS SMALL MECHANISM THAT WILL ALLOW DEVELOPMENT TO PUT SOME MONEY INTO THE VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS OF MAINTAINING, PRESERVING, AND CREATING MORE GREEN SPACE.
AS LONG AS I'VE LIVED IN DALLAS, DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE HOUSING AND DEVELOPERS ARE HAVING ANY KIND OF PROBLEMS. SEEMS LIKE THERE'S PLENTY OF IT.
AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TRYING TO HIDE THIS UNDER THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I THINK IS VERY DISINGENUOUS.
AND FRANKLY, OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOLKS DESERVE PARKLAND AND GREEN SPACE JUST AS MUCH AS ANYBODY ELSE, IF NOT MORE.
SO, I'M JUST A LITTLE SHOCKED AND, AND TAKEN ABACK BY ALL OF THIS.
AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE COMMENT, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
UH, AND WE DID MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR AT CPC LAST WEEK.
IN ALL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING THIS ORDINANCE THERE, WE HAVE NEVER RECEIVED ONE APPEAL ABOUT, ABOUT THE LEADS.
WE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S VERY CLEARLY RIGHT.
DALLAS TO ME IS A LITTLE LANDLOCKED.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE OUT THERE THAT WE CAN JUST GO EASILY PURCHASE.
SO TO HAVE ANY KIND OF MECHANISM TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT, EVEN IF THEY HAD SAID, YOU DON'T GET ANY KIND OF INCREASE, WE'RE JUST GONNA LEAVE IT STATUS QUO, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT.
BUT TO SEE US ACTUALLY GET DINGED DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.
AND FRANKLY, AS YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS, AGAIN, SOMETIMES WE, WE DON'T GET DEPLETE OUR CASE JUST AS, AS AS DRAMATICALLY AS WE NEED TO.
BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE END RESULT OF THIS IS NOT ONLY ARE WE NOT GONNA HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO EFFECTIVELY PURCHASE ANY LAND, BUT WE ARE GOING TO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO EVEN BE ABLE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY THAT WE DO, WHICH EFFECTIVELY IS JUST GONNA GO RIGHT BACK TO THE DEVELOPER.
SO WHY ARE WE EVEN GOING THROUGH ALL THE TROUBLES? SO, UM, TO MR. CREAMY'S POINT, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO OUR CPC FOLKS AND HAVING THEM HEAR OUR OWN PERSONAL PLEA ABOUT THIS, REACHING OUT TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, RALLYING OUR, OUR PARK PEOPLE TO HELP US, I THINK AT A BARE MINIMUM, WE'VE GOTTA AT LEAST GET BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE THESE CUTS TAKE PLACE IN THE HOPES THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, MAYBE WE CAN FIND A GROUP OF CPC FOLKS THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE INCLINED TO PUT US ON PAR WITH OTHER CITIES.
LIKE LOOK AT OUR FRIENDS AROUND US WHO ARE GETTING WAY MORE MONEY THAN WE ARE AND ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE OUR FOLKS MOVING? THEY'RE MOVING TO THOSE COMMUNITIES 'CAUSE THEY HAVE THOSE KIND OF AMENITIES.
SO THIS IS VERY DISAPPOINTING AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN, AS A GROUP, REACH
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OUT TO OUR COUNCIL FOLKS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS OVERTURNED.I JUST ADD ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT TO YOUR POINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UM, PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER, WORKING WITH PARTNERS IN DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AND IT WAS A REALLY COLLAB, IT HAS BEEN A REALLY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, SO EVERYONE WAS INFORMED OF, OF WHERE WE WERE GOING AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND I WOULD SAY EN LARGE, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IS REALLY, UM, FIND THE PROGRAM TO BE
SO, YOU KNOW, NOT TO TRY TO SPEAK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR INTERACTIONS WITH THEM HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VERY PROMIS COLLABORATIVE.
SO THE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO MAKE WAS, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH CCPC, GOING THROUGH THE, THE ZO OAC PROCESS MM-HMM
EVERYONE ON THE COURSE OAC IS OPPOSED OF CPC, IT'S A SUB COMMITTEE.
UH, AND WE NEVER ANTICIPATED ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN ANY OF OUR CONVERSATIONS GOING THROUGH ZO OAC, NOR HAVE WE, DID WE ANTICIPATE THIS IN OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITH CPC COMMISSIONERS IN ADVANCE OF THE, OF THE, OF THE MEETING LAST THURSDAY.
SO, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS ALL POINTLESS OF US.
AND, AND JUST TO ADD, OH, I'M SORRY.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE PUSHED THE BUTTON.
I KNOW ABOUT, UH, JUST TO ADD ABOUT DEVELOPERS, WE KNOW WE HAVE ONE PARTICULAR DEVELOPER THAT CHASES EVERY LAST ONE OF OUR TRAIL DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT GREEN SPACE BRINGS VALUE TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHY THAT CHANGE, UH, ON THAT.
IS IT SO AXI, OAC, LIKE WHAT THE HECK? LIKE HOW DO WE GO FROM EVERYTHING'S GROOVY.
LOVE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO, SORRY, YOU, I DON'T, DO YOU NOT GET WHAT YOU USED TO HAVE, BUT WE'RE CUTTING IN HALF.
LIKE HOW DO WE, WHERE WHERE'S THE DISCONNECT? I, I'M, I'M SHOCKED.
ANYWAY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN RALLY NOT GREAT NEWS.
AND UH, NEXT WE'LL GO TO THE, UH, LADY IN THE WHITE HAT MAKES COMMENTS, BRENDA.
UH, WELL A COUPLE QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, WHAT IS THE, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE IN THE FUND NOW WITH THE EXISTING ZONES? IT'S ABOUT 13 MILLION.
AND SO I KNOW WE, WE'VE GONE ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE HOW DO WE EX EXPEND THE DOLLARS? 'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LOT WITH THE WEB CHAPEL, UH, PARK ACQUISITION.
BUT SO WE'VE GOT 13 MILLION AND NOW DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR HOW IT CAN BE SPENT OTHER THAN REALIGNING THE ZONES? WELL, SO OF COURSE THAT 13 MILLION IS DIVIDED INTO SEVEN ZONES.
AND SO YOU HAVE 10 YEARS TO SPEND THE FUNDS UNTIL THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO BE FOR FUNDED.
SO OUR STRATEGY, OF COURSE, HAS BEEN ALLOWING THOSE FUNDS TO ACCRUE UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THEM TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY.
THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE FOUND IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF IMPLEMENTATION HAS BEEN THE WEB CHAPEL PROPERTY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY MUCH BEING STRATEGIC IN THAT WE ARE HOLDING ONTO THE FUNDS TO ALLOW 'EM TO ACCRUE TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN GO OUT AND ACQUIRE PROPERTY.
BUT ONCE WE GET TO, AND LAKEISHA HAS, HAS ESTABLISHED A GREEN LIGHT, YELLOW LIGHT, RED LIGHT MECHANISM, ONCE WE CROSS INTO THE RED LIGHT TERRITORY, WHICH IS YEARS EIGHT, NINE, AND 10, WE NEED TO DEPLOY THOSE DOLLARS AND MARKET IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO, UM, TO REFUND.
BUT UNTIL THAT TIME, WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH IN THE MODE OF ACCRUING THE FUNDS SO THAT WE ARE POSITIONED TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE A PROPERTY WHEN ONE MEETS THE CRITERIA OF APPROVING PARK ACCESS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACKNOWLEDGE.
UM, 'CAUSE I, I MEAN, I JUST HATE THAT WE SIT ON, WE'RE GONNA BE SITTING ON 13 MILLION, IT COULD BE 15 MILLION, 17 MILLION BEFORE WE AMASS ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO SPEND IT, WHICH WAS OUR ISSUE WITH CHAPEL WAS NOT THAT WE HAD THE AMOUNT, IT WAS JUST THE TIMING AND THE ZONES.
UM, SO NOW KNOWING THAT OUR ABILITY TO COLLECT IS GONNA BE MUCH LESS THAN WE HAD ORIGINALLY PLANNED AND LOBBIED FOR, UM, CAN WE, CAN WE BE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN OUR RECOMMEND OUR, OUR POLICY TO EXPEND? UM, AND ONE MORE QUESTION IS, ARE, IS THAT 13 MILLION INVESTED OR IS IT SITTING
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IN A CITY COFFER SOMEWHERE? IT'S, IT'S SITTING IN A MULTI-YEAR FUND.AND I'LL HAVE TO ASK RACHEL BARRY IF IT CRUDES INTEREST.
I BELIEVE THAT IT DOES, BUT TO YOUR, TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER WITHIN THE CURRENT FRAMEWORK OF THE ORDINANCE, YES, THERE IS 13, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, 13 TO $14 MILLION IN THE SEVEN ZONES THAT IS FURTHER SUBDIVIDED BY, SO CALL IT 2 MILLION IN ZONES AS FOR A WORKING NUMBER THAT'S FURTHER SUBDIVIDED BY AN ELEMENT FOR FEE AND LIE.
SO LAND ACQUISITION AND AN ELEMENT FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT.
SO ALTHOUGH YES, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, 14 MILLIONS.
IT IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT REALLY IT'S ONLY A MILLION DOLLARS IN EACH OF THE ZONES TO BE ABLE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES THAT WE HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE GOING FORWARD IS, IS TO REMOVE THAT, THAT BIFURCATION.
SO IT NOW IT'S REALLY AN AGGREGATED AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN UTILIZE TO GO OUT AND BUY A PROPERTY.
SO, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO GO
YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT LIKE, COULD ONE ZONE TAKE FROM ANOTHER IN LIKE AN IOU OR SOME KIND OF, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY REAL ESTATE IS OPPORTUNISTIC AND SO WE HAVE TO, TO BE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BE A LEGITIMATE BUYER WHEN THE TIMING IS RIGHT.
SO, WELL IT, THERE'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE, IT'S A FAIRLY MOOT POINT.
THERE'S REALLY NOTHING MORE FOR US TO AMEND BECAUSE IT'S GONE OVER OUR HEADS AND WITH ZAC AND CPC AND NOW COUNCIL'S SUPPORTIVE OF THIS DIMINISHMENT OF FEES.
NO, I HAVEN'T, UH, I HAVEN'T STARTED TO VISIT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THIS, BUT IT WILL CERTAINLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE INITIATE VERY SOON.
YEAH, I MEAN I, LOOK, I'M ALL FOR YOU WON'T FIND A BIGGER CHAMPION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WHO WANTS TO LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH NO GREEN SPACE NEARBY? SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY SHORTSIGHTED VIEW, UM, YOU KNOW, BY OUR, AND, AND, AND DEVELOPERS REALIZE THEIR PROPERTIES ARE MORE VALUABLE IF THEY HAVE GREEN SPACE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, DISAPPOINTED BY THIS CHANGE BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN SUCH SUPPORT FOR IT.
AND WE, WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORTED THIS YEARS AGO, SO THANK YOU.
NEXT, MS. MS.
UM, WHAT IS CPCS JURISDICTION OVER AND HOW ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THIS? SO, BECAUSE THIS IS A, THIS IS A, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M IN, WHEN I, WHEN WE PRESENTED, SO I IN CCP CI SAID THERE ARE VERY FEW INTERSECTIONS BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE PARK SYSTEM, BUT THIS IS ONE OF 'EM.
AND SO THIS IS VERY MUCH AN ELEMENT OF DEVELOPMENT IN DALLAS.
AND THE, THE DEVELOPING IN DALLAS IS GOVERNED BY THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND SO THE CPC IS THE ENTITY THAT IS MANAGES THE DEVELOPMENT CODE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO BECAUSE THIS IS A, UH, AN ELEMENT OF DEVELOPING IN DALLAS, JUST LIKE GETTING A BUILDING PERMIT OR JUST LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER SORT OF IMPACT PIECE WITH UTILITIES, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT ALL IS GOVERNED BY THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY OF PLAN COMMISSION, ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL.
SO IF THE DEVELOPER GOES TO CPC JUST FOR REZONING, CORRECT.
OR IS IT, OR TO GO OUT OF SCALE FROM WHAT THEY, WHAT'S ALLOWABLE? SO I MEAN, YOU CAN GO TO CPC FOR PLATING, FOR ZONING, FOR SUVS, FOR ALL SORTS OF DEVELOPMENT CODE RELATED THINGS.
AND WERE YOU GUYS PREPARED ENOUGH TO SPEAK WHEN THIS CAME UP, OR YOU FEEL LIKE, BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY ANSWER THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE WE WERE, I'M NOT SURE NOT TO, I'M NOT TRYING TO MY OWN POINT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT THERE'S REALLY NO ONE MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT OUR DEDICATION IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND
AND SO, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT WE SHARED ALL THE INFORMATION WITH CTC, ALL THE COMPARABLES, ALL THE, ALL THE REASONS AND THE PROCESS AND THE COLLABORATION.
THE, THE REASON WHY I ASKED IS THAT I REACHED OUT TO SOMEBODY WHILE WE'RE TALKING, IT'S ALLOWABLE, RIGHT? AND I SAID, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? AND SHE SAID, CPC RECOMMENDED TRAIL LANGUAGE BE ADDED.
AND NOT SURE IF THAT MADE IT TO US.
AND THIS COULD ALWAYS BE STRONGER, BUT THAT'S HOW THEY WERE RESPONDING TO THE PROGRAM.
THEY WERE WONDERING HOW THEY WERE RESPONDING TO HOW THE PROGRAM IS ACTUALLY FUNCTIONING.
AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE LIMITED TO WHAT'S BY STATE LAW.
SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ON HER.
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WHAT SHE IS REFERRING TO IS THE, ON SLIDE TWO, IT'S THAT CREDIT MECHANISM THAT WAS THE BETTER AMENDMENT THAT THEY DISCUSSED.AND THAT WAS AMENDED BY WHICH THERE WOULD BE A 50% CREDIT ON THE TOTAL B IF A DEVELOPER CHOSE TO DEVELOP A TRAILHEAD AS A PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENED TO BE LOCATED BY AN EXISTING TRAIL.
THAT'S WHAT THAT AMENDMENT WAS RELATED TO.
I, I'M, I'M CONFUSED HOW WE GOT HERE.
UM, AND I'M HOPING THAT THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE LANGUAGE.
LIKE WE, I KNOW WE COULD GO TO OUR STATE COUNCILS TO HELP ADVOCATE LOVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, KIND OF, IT SEEMS NOT SO CUT AND DRY A LITTLE BIT.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER SO WE CAN OVERRIDE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
UM, AND IT REALLY DOES NEED TO BE CHANGED BACK TO WHAT WE PUT IN PLACE, WHAT YOU WORK SO HARD.
UM, SO I, I THINK WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF, WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON HOW TO BE ABLE TO RELAY THAT, UM, AND ALSO GET PEOPLE TO HELP ADVOCATE WITH US.
UM, I MEAN, I CAN REMEMBER SOME OF THE FRIENDS GROUPS THAT WERE VERY MUCH RELYING ON THIS, UM, IF THAT CORRECTLY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CRAFTED THE FIRST WORD, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A WHOLE KIND OF CONTINGENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, LOTS OF REPRESENTATIVES.
THERE'S A WHOLE CONTENTION OF, YOU KNOW, PARK PARTNERS AND LIKE SANTA FE TRAIL WAS THERE, ALL THEY WERE.
I JUST FEEL LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE RELYING ON THIS YEAH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A POWERFUL TOOL.
IT'S USED ALL THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND A, A COMMON PRACTICE WITH REALLY ALMOST SMALL COMMUNITIES IN TEXAS.
UH, NEXT WE'LL CALL MR. SLAUGHTER.
I MADE A STATEMENT EARLIER ABOUT HOW WE WOULD PUT IN THESE SEATS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S RYAN'S JOB TO GO TO OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE.
AND I, I AGREE WITH WHAT RUDY SAID.
YOU KNOW, STORM, I THINK WE NEED RYAN TO GO AND AFTER WE TALK TO OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE IS EXPERTISE AND EXPLAINING EVERYTHING.
I KNOW HOW MY COUNSELING'S GOING TO VOTE.
IT'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING LIKE, UH, MY EX OVER
UH, I'VE DEAL WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPERS IN THE DISTRICT A AND THEY'VE ALSO DID, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN YOUR DISTRICT
AND THEY'RE ECSTATIC ABOUT THIS FEE 'CAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT BENEFITS THEY'RE GONNA GET FROM THEIR PROPERTIES AROUND THE GREEN SPACES.
AND I AM JUST TOTALLY SHOCKED HOW CPC CAN TAKE THE STAND AND LIKE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS GOT KIND OF LIKE AMBUSHED 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T SEE THIS COMING.
UH, I THINK WE NEED TO GO TO OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE.
I DON'T THINK RYAN AND, AND HIS DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO, THEY PUT US HERE AND WE NEED TO STRONG TWIST THEIR ARM, WHICH I DON'T HAVE TO DO WITH MY COUNCIL PERSON, THAT THEY NEED TO PUT CPC IN CHECK.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A BOARD.
UH, NEXT WE GOT MR. GOLDSTEIN.
UM, SO WAS, UH, THE LAST UPDATE TO THE PARK BOARD WAS THE DEMO OF DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS AFTER WE HAD, SO YEAH, SO I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE WHERE WE'RE
I MEAN WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH IT, BUT WAS THERE A LOT OF ADVOCACY ON THE OTHER SIDE? PUBLICLY? ADVOCACY FROM OTHER CLAIM COMMISSIONERS? NO.
FROM OTHER OUTSIDE GROUPS TO DO THE REDUCTION? NO.
WASN'T, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US GIVEN THE, WHAT SEEMS LIKE THE WILL OF THE BODY TO BRING A RESOLUTION TO PARK BOARD AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE CAN GO WITH A LATER DATE.
AND SO THE PART REPORT CAN BE ON RECORD AND COUNCIL CAN FIGURE OUT
SO IF IT IS WHATEVER THE PROCESS WOULD BE FOR, IF, UM, PRESIDENT AAL NEEDS TO WEIGH IN.
BUT, UM, I WOULD SAY WE CONSIDER PUTTING A RESOLUTION FORTH.
WE'RE ALL OFFICIALLY ON RECORD WHERE WE STAND ON ON THE MATTER BEFORE COUNSEL TAKES IT UP.
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THANK YOU.WELL, MR. GOLDSTEIN ACTUALLY KIND OF MADE THE POINT THAT I WAS GOING TO MAKE.
BUT WHILE I AM UPSET, I AM NOT SHOCKED BY THIS.
'CAUSE I HAVE SEEN IN PREVIOUS OCCASIONS, ZAC AND CBC AMBUSH PEOPLE WITH DECISIONS AND IN THE FACE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, WITH BRINGING REASON AND ARGUMENTS, BEING THE EXPERTS CREDIBLY.
SO, UM, TO THEM JUST IGNORING THAT ANYWAY WITH A DECISION LIKE THIS.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RESOLUTION.
I WOULD LIKE, WHATEVER THE APPROPRIATE WAY IS FOR US TO DETERMINE HOW WE COLLECTIVELY BRING OUR ACTION, THIS RESOLUTION OR HOW WE STRUCTURE THESE MEETINGS WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PRESENTING PEOPLE AS MUCH OF A UNIFIED POSITION AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
MANY OF THE POINTS I WOULD MAKE HAVE ALREADY LIMITED.
AND I, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
UH, WHEN, WHEN DOES THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICIALLY TAKE THIS ON TO APPROVE? SO IT HASN'T BEEN SCHEDULED YET, BUT THE SEQUENCE WOULD BE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BRIEF, UM, PTE AND AGAIN, THAT'S LIKELY TO OCCUR IN MARCH, APRIL TIMEFRAME.
AND THEN THERE WOULD BE AN, AN ITEM FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE, THE APPROVAL OF THE CODE OF AMENDMENT.
AGAIN, THAT, THAT HASN'T BEEN SCHEDULED YET, BUT TIMEFRAME, APPROXIMATELY APRIL.
AND SO IF WE PUT IN A RESOLUTION AND THEN WE, WE PUT IN DEBT FIRST AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET TO OUR, WE KNOW HOW TO GET TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
BUT, SO WE KNOW AT LEAST THEY, THEY SAW IT FIRST AND THEN WE CAN GO ADVOCATE AGAINST THIS AFTER WE DO ALL THE INITIAL STEPS SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WHEN WE GO IN THERE, WE'RE NOT JUST KIND OF RE-TALK LIKE, KIND OF LIKE
SO WE GO IN AND TALK WITH THEM AND, AND TRY TO FIGURE IT A BEST WAY TO ATTACK THIS, HOPEFULLY WITHIN MID-MARCH, BY MID-MARCH.
'CAUSE IF NOT, IT'S GONNA COME TO US REAL FAST AND THEY TAKE A BREAK IN MARCH.
SO THAT'S ALSO PARTLY A WEEK THAT MAYBE A COUPLE WEEKS THAT WE LOSE NOT TO BE ABLE TO CATCH THEM IN THEIR OFFICE, WHETHER IT'S A GROUP OR WE ALL DO IT INDIVIDUALLY TO TRY TO GET THIS, NOT NOT THE PAST.
SO FIRST MEETING IS MARCH 3RD.
THAT'S FOR, THAT'S FOR THE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE, RIGHT? THE, THE PARKING CONTROL COMMITTEE.
BUT ALSO WE GOTTA GET TO THE, TO THE MAIN BODY AT SOME POINT.
SO, UM, MS. UH, MS.
SO WHEN THIS WENT TO CPC, DID IT OR WAS THE, THE REASON THAT IT WAS EVEN BEING BROUGHT BACK UP AGAIN IS BECAUSE WE WANTED PARK AND REC WANTED CHANGES MADE TO IT.
IT WAS, IT WAS CARRIED FORWARD TO CPC BECAUSE ZOA HAD APPROVED IT GO TO CPC FOR CONSIDERATION.
BUT THAT WAS DRIVEN BY OUR REQUEST CHANGE.
IT WAS DRIVEN BY THE FACT THAT THE STATE LAW CHANGED.
OH, THE STATE LAW CHANGED HER ORDINANCE TO COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
AND THE STATE LAW WAS MAKING THE CHANGE ABOUT IT WAS FEES.
NO, THE STATE LAW CHANGE BASICALLY REGULATED HOW YOU CAN CHARGE FEES WITH OTHER THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
BUT THAT WAS, UM, AT HIGH LEVEL EVERY CITY IMPACTED, WHICH THERE FIVE HAD TO AMEND THEIR, THEIR ORDINANCES TO BE COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAWS.
WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD, RIGHT.
SO BASICALLY IT WAS SORT OF A VERY NEUTRAL THING THAT WOULDN'T HAVE AFFECTED HOW WE CALCULATED IT, BUT WE TOOK THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR CHANGES.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO THERE WAS GOING TO BE A CHANGE REGARDLESS BECAUSE OF STATE LAW.
STATE LAW GIVES YOU TWO WAYS TO CALCULATE THE FEE.
AND SO THERE WAS GOING TO BE A CHANGE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ORDINANCE WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.
SO WE SAID, OKAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, HERE'S WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT GETS THE, THE SHRINKING OF ZONES FROM SEVEN TO FIVE, WHICH TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE OTHER CHANGES THAT WERE BENEFICIAL TO THE MENT.
SO THERE WAS A MECHANISM THAT FORCED IT TO BE IN FRONT OF CPC, WE TOOK THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, HERE'S SOME TWEAKS WE'D LIKE TO DO.
AND AS A RESULT, WE GOT SMACKED IN THE FACE AND SAID, WELL, NOT ONLY ARE YOU NOT GONNA GET WHAT YOU WANT, BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE SOME AWAY.
SO I GUESS THE RES, WHAT I'M KIND OF TRYING TO CLARIFY FOR ALL OF US IS WHEN WE CREATE THIS RESOLUTION, IS OUR INTENTION TO GO BACK TO, LOOK, WE JUST WANNA GO BACK TO WHERE IT WAS.
WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, OR ARE WE GONNA GO BACK SAYING, OUR INTENTION WAS TO GO HERE TO BE MORE INCONSISTENT WITH OUR OTHER COMPETING CITIES.
SO LIKE, WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THE RESOLUTION? IS THE REAL, IS THE INTENT OF THE RESOLUTION JUST TO GET, GET US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE? OR IS THE INTENT OF THE RESOLUTION
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TO, TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT YOU RECOMMEND? SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GO TO PARK TRAILS COMMITTEE.THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, WHATEVER OUR ATTENTION IS, I THINK WE NEED, RYAN WOULDN'T, WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, SO, YOU KNOW, MY PERSPECTIVE IS OF COURSE, UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO, UH, HAVE A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THE, IN MY OPINION, THE REASONABLE INCREASES THAT ARE REPRESENTED ON SLIDE THREE, IF WE COULD.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT SINGLE FAMILY WAS A RELATIVELY MODEST 12% INCREASE.
MULTI-FAMILY ONE AND TWO WAS ABOUT 40% OF THE HOTELS 30.
SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THESE FEES WERE DEVELOPED IN CONSULTATION AND CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST, OR I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO PASS A RESOLUTION, IT WOULD BE TO, UH, TO SUPPORT THE, THE FEES THAT'S RECOMMENDED.
I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT THE STATE GIVES US THE RIGHT, BUT WE CAN CHARGE 2% OF MEDIA FAMILY INCOME ACROSS THE BOARD.
THE 1% FOR THE MULTI-FAMILY, ONE BEDROOM AND 1% FOR THE HOTEL AND MOTEL USES IS A COMPROMISE THAT WE MADE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FEEL THAT WE WERE ABLE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET 2% ACROSS THE BOARD.
IF WE WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED 2%, SOME OF THE FEES WOULD'VE WENT UP APPROXIMATELY 120% IF WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE PUSHBACK FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TWO USES WITH 2% AND TWO USES WITH 1%.
BECAUSE WE SAY, WELL, WE ARE ALSO NOT ALLOWED TO CHARGE ON COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES.
WE CAN ONLY CHARGE A PARKLAND FOR SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY AND HOTEL
SO WE WERE CONCERNING THE, IN OUR APPROACH AND THE, AND THE POINT IS TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT DID UTILIZE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WORKING WITH THE FOLKS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
SO THAT, TO THAT POINT, IT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR RESOLUTION BE AT THE RECOMMENDED PERCENTAGES THAT YOU HAD IN YOUR PRESENTATION AND THAT WENT THROUGH, SORRY, IF I KEEP GETTING THIS TO ZAC THAT DID GO THROUGH, THAT WENT THROUGH ZAC, LIKE THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
OF COURSE YOU, IT'S UP TO THE BODY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE'RE GONNA DO A RESOLUTION, WE CAN DO IT FOR THE, THE CHANGES THAT WE RECOMMENDED, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DID NOT TAKE THE FULL 2% ACROSS THE BOARD.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE, WE LOST HIM, RIGHT? BUT YOU, YOU'RE GOT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MUTED.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? SO WE, WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE AND GET BACK, UH, AS RUDY SAID.
UH, BUT, BUT TOTALLY, I TOTALLY AGREE.
WE HAVE BEEN TOTALLY CAUGHT OFF GUARDED ON THIS SUCH IMPORTANT SUBJECT.
SO WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE AND COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION, GO TO COUNCIL WITH AGGRESSION.
WE ALL INDIVIDUALLY TALKING TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND, UH, AND MS HAS BEEN YOUR, YOUR QUESTION OF BACK TO WHAT WE HAD OR THE NEW ONE, I THINK THAT WE'LL DISCUSS WHEN WE BRING, UH, WHEN WE BRING THIS RESOLUTION TO BOARD, UH, TO TABLE, UH, IN BOARD MEETING, AND THEN ARRIVE AT A DECISION AS A GROUP, WHAT WE DO.
SO, SO, NO, THAT THAT'S WHAT MY, BUT I THINK IT IS LIKE ALL BOARD MEMBERS I CAN SAY, YEAH, THIS IS, UH, APPALLING.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN RIDING THE WAVE OF SUCCESS IN TERMS OF BOND, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
IT'S JUST, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, IT'S A SPIKE BACK.
I REALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER WORDS, BUT TO SAY IT'S A SPIKE BACK.
AND HOW COULD THE, YOU KNOW, HOW COULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO ARE SO SUPPORTIVE OF WHOSE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SO SUPPORTIVE OF THE PARK BOARD, THEY, THEY WOULD VOTE AGAINST THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS JUST HAPPENED.
I GUESS THERE WAS ZERO ADVOCACY.
SO ANYWAY, SO I FULLY SUPPORT AND, UH, I THINK, UH, I WILL, UH, SUPPORT THE BRINGING THE RESOLUTION AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS AS A GROUP WHAT IS IN THAT REVENUE.
MR. NICKY, I JUST WANT TO GET ON THE RECORD.
I AGREE WITH MS. ASPEN'S APPROACH ABOUT STAYING WITH THE REASONABLE INCREASES THAT WE HAVE SUGGESTED AND CRAFTING THE RESOLUTION AROUND THAT HAS
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TO BE PRETTY SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD.I THINK, UH, THIS IS WORTH A ROUND FOR, FOR MANY OF US HERE.
I, I HEARD, UH, PRESIDENT AWELL CALL IT, UH, APPALLING.
I'M GONNA DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT.
UM, I'M GONNA CALL IT BAD POLITICS AT PLAY HERE AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO SAY IT.
I THINK THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF RETRIBUTION GOING ON HERE.
I THINK THIS KIND MIGHT BE A FALLOUT OF MAYBE FOUR DALLAS NOT GOING THE WAY THAT SOME CPC MEMBERS WANTED IT TO GO.
MAYBE, UH, THAT THE HOUSING FOLKS NOT GETTING WHAT THEY WANTED IN THE BOND.
AND I'M FRANKLY, I'M BOTHERED.
I'M DISGUSTED THAT IT'S ALWAYS THEM VERSUS US, US VERSUS THEM.
AND SOME OF THESE FOLKS CAN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN WE WIN, WE SHOULD ALL WIN TOGETHER.
COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO HEAR ABOUT THIS.
THEY NEED TO HEAR ABOUT POTENTIAL BAD POLITICS AT PLAY, POTENTIAL RETRIBUTION AT PLAY.
UM, MR. GOLDSTEIN BROUGHT UP AN EXCELLENT POINT.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PLAN BROUGHT FORWARD FROM OUR PARK DEPARTMENT, UH, SO WE DON'T STAY QUIETLY AND WE DO GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH OUR OWN PLAN.
AND I, I CONCUR, MR. CRIN, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A PLAN INSTEAD OF ATTACK AND, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING ATTACK THIS ALL TOGETHER VERSUS TRYING TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE PULLING FROM DIFFERENT SIDES.
BUT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY GO WITH WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET, THE INITIAL PUSH.
I THINK WE SHOULD GO WITH THAT NUMBER SO WHEN WE DO GET A LITTLE BIT OF HECKLE BACK, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM, RIGHT? SO, BUT DEFINITELY GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND, AND GET THIS, GET THIS SETTLED PRETTY QUICK.
SO ANYTHING OTHER? NOBODY ELSE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS SO UNIFIED ON A SINGLE THING.
WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL THANK YOU RYAN.
SO WE ONLY GOT ABOUT 30 DAYS, SO TRY GET THIS CHANGE.
UM, ALL RIGHT, NEXT WE'VE GOT STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AT CAMPBELL GREEN RECREATION CENTER, AND THIS IS ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH.
NEXT ONE WE HAVE RIVER SEAN ROUNDUP.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE ON MARCH THE FIRST.
WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER TREAT PLAN EVENT.
THE NEXT ONE IS ON MARCH THE FIRST AT HON PARK.
HUH? WE HAVE, UH, BEAUTIFICATION EVENT ON MARCH THE EIGHTH FROM NINE TO 11TH.
AND THIS IS AT LAKE CLIFF PARK.
WE HAVE ANOTHER RETREAT PLANNING AND THIS ONE'S ON MARCH THE EIGHTH AT
AND THE LAST ONE IS ANDERSON PARK.
EXCUSE ME, WE HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING ON MARCH THE EIGHTH.
WE HAVE OUR PLAY BALL SPRING 2025.
BASEBALL REGISTRATION BEGINS FOR OUR AGES FOUR THROUGH 12.
AND THEN OUR SECOND REGISTRATION FOR SPRING IS GOING TO BE OUR YOUTH SOCCER A AGAIN, AGES FOUR THROUGH 12.
AND BOTH OF THOSE REGISTRATIONS ARE OPEN.
SO SEND YOUR KIDS, SEND YOUR FRIENDS, SEND YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS TO THOSE, UH, QR CODES AND GETTING YOUR KIDS READY.
NOW WE GOT, UH, ANY LIAISON REPORTS? WE'LL GO MISS
UM, DALLAS BLOOMS. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KICK OFF TOMORROW MORNING, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT CHILLY, SO THEY'RE GONNA MOVE IT TO MONDAY, BUT I'VE GONE AFTER THE ARBORETUM ONCE.
IT PAUSES OUT A LITTLE BIT AND ENJOY THE TULIPS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S COMING OUT RIGHT NOW.
HAPPY NEW YEAR LIVE WITH BLACK HISTORY MONTH CELEBRATION HOSTED BY MAYOR PRO.
IT'S GONNA BE A ART EXHIBIT, UH, DANCER, MUSIC, FOOD.
SO IF YOU'RE COMING YOU NEED TO CALL HIS OFFICE.
SORRY TO HE 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT YOU.
WITH THE BUS YOU
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THIS SATURDAY THE 22ND.AND IT IS FROM 11:00 AM TO 2:00 PM THAT'S IT.
I I HEARD THAT WAS THE NUMBER ONE REC CENTER IN DALLAS, IN AMERICA.
MR. DICKEY, THANKS TO MR. VICE PRESIDENT, I JUST WANNA ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, LIAISON REPORT.
UH, OUR BOARD MEMBER
AND WE ARE GOING TO GO SPEAK ON THAT.
SO WE'LL BE LIAISING OVER THERE.
WHAT IS THIS TODAY? ONE O'CLOCK.
SO JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S, UH, SAKE AND HELP, IT'S MCCANN SOMEBODY JUST PRETEND IF THERE'S NOT AN EXTRA SYLLABLE THERE.
I JUST ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, UH, SOME PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT NEXT TUESDAY THE 25TH, WE'RE PUTTING ON AN EVENT AT THE TRI RIVER ONG CENTER CALLED POWER OF PARKS,
I'M GONNA, THE IDEA OF IT, IT BEING THE FIRST IN THE SERIES OF THESE EVENTS, WE DON'T FEEL LOOKED OUT, UM, IS TO EMPOWER FRIENDS OF GROUPS OR PROSPECTIVE FRIENDS OF GROUPS TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE RESOURCES THE CITY HAS AVAILABLE IN THE WAYS THAT THEY CAN PLUG IN AND BE SUPPORTED.
UM, WHEN DOING FRIENDS OF RELATED ACTIVITIES IN THEIR PARKS AND, AND THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN BRING TO THE PARKS, BOTH FROM THE ACTIVATION PERSPECTIVE, HIGHLIGHTING GROUPS THAT HAVE DONE THAT, LIKE FRIENDS OF
KIND OF SHORTEN THE ON RAMP TO CREATE A SUCCESSFUL OPERATIONAL FRONT ZONE.
SO TIM, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU THERE AS THE, UH, LIAISON.
UM, BO WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU THERE SINCE IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT.
AND DANIEL, I KNOW YOU HAVE A CONFLICT ALREADY, BUT, UH, AGAIN, THERE WILL BE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
WE'D LIKE TO MAKE IT CITYWIDE.
WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE SOUTHERN SECTOR AT THE MOMENT.
SEEING AND SEEING NO OTHER BUSINESS, I NOW ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT, OH, I'M SORRY.
OUR NEXT MEETING IS MARCH 6TH AT 10:00 AM SO YOU KNOW THE VISIT, I'M NOW DURING THE MEETING AT 1131 DANIEL.