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[Council Government Performance & Financial Management Committee on February 24, 2025.]
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OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. IT IS 1:02 P.M.
WE HAVE A MISPRINT ON THE AGENDA. THE ACTUAL ITEM SHOULD BE TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM JANUARY 28TH, 2025. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 28TH? MOVE. YEAH. MOVE. APPROVAL FOR THE JANUARY 28TH.
GOVERNMENT OF GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES. DO YOU NEED TO CORRECT IT OR NO? I ALREADY DID BECAUSE I SAID THE 28TH. SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. NEXT, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR BRIEFING AGENDA.
THIS WAS A BRIEFING ITEM REQUESTED BY ANOTHER ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES.
SO, WE WILL ASK YOU TO TAKE IT AWAY.
I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY TO SHARE OUR VITAL WORK AT THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, ALSO KNOWN AS OCPO. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
TODAY'S PRESENTATION WILL FOCUS ON FIVE MAIN AREAS.
WE WILL PROVIDE A BRIEF BACKGROUND, DISCUSS OUR MISSION AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT GUIDES OUR WORK AND THE SPECIFIC DUTIES THAT UNDERTAKE TO FOSTER COMMUNITY TRUST AND SAFETY. GET TO KNOW THE INDIVIDUALS BEHIND THE CITY'S CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT BODY DRIVING POSITIVE CHANGE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OCPO WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL BY MEANS OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 31192, WHICH WAS PASSED ON APRIL 24TH, 2019. OCPO OPENS ITS DOORS ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2019.
OUR MISSION IS SIMPLE BUT POWERFUL TO ENSURE CIVILIAN COMPLAINTS ARE REVIEWED FAIRLY, INCREASE TRANSPARENCY, AND STRENGTHEN TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
TO HELP ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY. OCPO PROVIDES FUNCTIONAL SUPPORT AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
TO ACHIEVE ITS MISSION, OCPO UNDERTAKES THE FOLLOWING KEY FUNCTIONS.
BY ACCEPTING PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION AND COMPLAINTS.
WE STRENGTHEN TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.
TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BY CONDUCTING INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, WE ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND IMPARTIALITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
OUR OFFICE IS MADE UP OF A SMALL, DEDICATED TEAM THAT WORKS DILIGENTLY TO IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND TRUST BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE COMMUNITY.
EACH TEAM MEMBERS PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN PROVIDING INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT, INVESTIGATING CONCERNS, AND PROMOTING MEANINGFUL DIALOG BETWEEN WITH RESIDENTS.
AS THE DIRECTOR, I LEAD THE STRATEGIC VISION AND OPERATION OF THE OCPO, ENSURING OUR OFFICERS EFFECTIVELY ADVOCATE FOR FAIR POLICING, INVESTIGATE CONCERNS AND STRENGTHEN ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISM.
WHILE GUERRERO COMMUNICATION ADVISOR AS A COMMUNICATION ADVISOR ENSURES THAT OUR OFFICE REMAINS CONNECTED, TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, MEDIA OUTREACH, EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVES.
BY MANAGING PUBLICATION NEWSLETTERS AND EVENTS, HE FOSTERED OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN OCPO AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE RESIDENTS WE SERVE. GREG HUFF, OUR SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR, AS THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR.
GREG PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN CONDUCTING INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION TO POLICE MISCONDUCT.
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CIVILIAN COMPLAINTS AND INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATIONS CASES.HIS WORKS ENSURES THAT ALL INVESTIGATIONS ARE THOROUGH, UNBIASED, ROOTED IN ACCOUNTABILITY, REINFORCING THE INTEGRITY OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT.
SIERRA OBASOGI, POLICY ANALYST. AS THE POLICY ANALYST, SIERRA FOCUSES ON IDENTIFYING GAPS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND TRAINING, AND ENSURING THAT OVERSIGHT TRANSLATE INTO MEANINGFUL REFORMS. SHE PROVIDES DATA DRIVEN RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE DEPARTMENTS ACCOUNTABILITY AND PREVENT MISCONDUCT.
ALMA PEREZ, OUR SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST. AS THE SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, ALMA SERVES AS A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, ENSURING THAT RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESSIBLE ACCESS TO RESOURCES, UNDERSTANDS THEIR RIGHTS AND CAN VOICE CONCERNS THROUGH ACCOMMODATION AND COMPLAINT PROCESS. SHE LEADS OUTREACH INITIATIVES TO BUILD TRUST AND STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY LAW ENFORCEMENT RELATIONS.
SHE'S THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT WITH THE RESIDENTS, FILING COMPLAINTS SEEKING ASSISTANCE.
SHE ENSURES THAT EVERY COMPLAINT IS DOCUMENTED, REVIEWED AND DIRECTED TOWARDS A FAIR RESOLUTION.
SHE ALSO PROVIDES CRITICAL ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT TO THE DIRECTOR AND INVESTIGATIVE TEAM.
TOGETHER, OUR TEAM WORKED TO HOLD LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCOUNTABLE AND ADVOCATE FOR FAIR POLICING AND EMPOWER OUR COMMUNITY TO TRANSPARENCY, INVESTIGATION AND POLICY REFORM. WE ARE HERE TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY RESIDENT'S VOICE IS HEARD AND THAT JUSTICE IS SERVED.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE ARE COMMITTED TO FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY WHILE MAXIMIZING COMMUNITY IMPACT, ENSURING THAT EACH DOLLAR IS SPENT EFFECTIVELY, EFFICIENTLY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE HAVE SIX POSITION ONE DIRECTOR, ONE COMMUNICATION ADVISOR, ONE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR, ONE POLICY ANALYST, ONE SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, AND ONE COMPLAINT INTAKE SPECIALIST.
THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS REMAINS UNCHANGED IN THE UPCOMING PLAN BUDGET.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE ARE BUDGETED FOR A TOTAL BUDGET OF $706,614, WITH A SLIGHT INCREASE OF $25,041 IS PLANNED FOR THE PLANNED FISCAL YEAR DUE TO SALARY AND BENEFITS.
PRIOR YEAR'S ACTUAL, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. PRIOR YEAR'S ACTUALS WERE UNDER BUDGET.
OCPO WAS CONSERVATIVE ON SPENDING AND THE ABSENCE OF HAVING A PERMANENT DIRECTOR.
VACANCIES IN OFFICE ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO COMING UNDER BUDGET.
WE PLAN TO COME IN AT OUR TOTAL BUDGET OR JUST UNDER BUDGET.
THE EXPENSE WAS SIGNIFICANT AND WILL MAKE THE EVENT OF BUDGET SAVINGS VERY UNLIKELY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. PERSONNEL SERVICES EXPENSES INCLUDE LEAN STAFF OF SIX FTE POSITION.
CONTRACTUAL AND OTHER SERVICES EXPENSE INCLUDE NACO ANNUAL CONFERENCE AND MEMBERSHIP.
EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES/TRAINING, SUBSCRIPTION/TOLL TAG.
SMALL RENOVATION DUE TO A RECENT RELOCATION AND THE IPAD AND MOBILE SERVICES.
NEXT SLIDE. THESE NEXT SLIDES WILL DISCUSS HOW WE MANAGE SUCCESS TO ENSURE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT A TYPO ON SLIDE 12.
OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS ARE AS FOLLOWS. OUR GOAL FOR COMPLAINT RESOLUTION RATE IS 70%.
OUR GOAL FOR PUBLIC EVENTS ATTENDANCE IS 25. OUR GOAL FOR ATTENDANCE AT COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT EVENTS IN PRIMARILY BLACK AND HISPANIC NEIGHBORHOODS IS 12. OUR GOAL FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION BY THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS 100%.
THE CURRENT RESULT OF THE PERFORMANCE METRICS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
OUR COMPLAINT RESOLUTION RATE CURRENTLY STANDS AT 67.6% OF CASES RESOLVED THIS FISCAL YEAR.
WE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN 28 PUBLIC EVENTS SO FAR.
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WE HAVE ATTENDED 12 COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND PRIMARILY BLACK AND HISPANIC NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE HAVE COMPLETED 85% INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION VOTED ON BY THE BOARD.NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE'RE NOT JUST AN OFFICE. WE'RE A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, WORKING EVERY DAY TO BUILD A SAFER AND MORE TRANSPARENT DALLAS.
COLLEAGUES. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM B, WHICH IS THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM UPDATES. THAT IS GOING TO BE APPARENTLY, I BELIEVE, A QUARTERLY UPDATE.
JACK, IS THAT RIGHT FROM MISS NICEWANDER ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT ON OUR BOND EXPENDITURES.
SO, THIS IS THE FIRST OF MORE TO COME. I ASSUME AFTER THIS ONE IT'S GOING TO BE A MEMO, RIGHT, INSTEAD OF A BRIEFING, UNLESS WE REQUEST ONE.
SO, I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT AWAY, JENNY. ALL RIGHT.
SO. OKAY. WELL. THANK YOU. JENNY NICEWANDER, DIRECTOR OF THE BOND OFFICE.
AND TODAY WE ARE HERE TO GO OVER THE BOND QUARTERLY REPORTING THAT WE WILL BE DOING.
WE WILL BE REPORTING ON CURRENT AND PAST BONDS AS THEY RELATE TO UNENCUMBERED FUNDS.
NEXT SLIDE, WE'LL BE GOING OVER THE 24 AND 2017 BOND OVERVIEW.
THOSE WERE KIND OF GROUPED TOGETHER OR AT LEAST THE FORMAT WAS.
AND WE'LL ALSO BE DOING THAT FOR 2012 AND 2006.
WE HAVE A REPORT ON THE COUNCIL DISTRICT SPECIFIC FUNDING.
WE'LL GO OVER OUR REPORTING SCHEDULE AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS.
NEXT SLIDE. SO, IN TODAY'S BRIEFING WE WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE NEW QUARTERLY REPORT.
THIS REPORT STARTS IN 2024. AND WE'LL GO BACK TO 2006 FOR THE BOND UNENCUMBERED FUNDS.
THE GOAL OF THIS REPORT IS TO MONITOR PROGRESS AND ENSURE TRANSPARENCY.
AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, IN OCTOBER OF 2024, THERE WAS A BRIEFING TO CITY COUNCIL ON THE UNENCUMBERED BOND FUNDS GOING BACK FROM 2017, GOING BACK TO 2006. AT THAT BRIEFING, WE COMMITTED TO DELIVERING QUARTERLY UPDATES AND THE STATUS OF THESE UNENCUMBERED FUNDS.
WE'RE INCLUDING THE 2024 BOND IN THIS REPORT AS WELL, AND WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A FRIDAY MEMO THIS WEEK THAT WILL INCLUDE THE ENTIRE REPORT, AS WELL AS LINKS TO THE REPORT AND TO THE BACKUP DATA.
AS A NOTE, YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A HARD COPY FOR YOUR REVIEW.
IN THE APPENDIX OF THIS REPORT, THERE IS A QR CODE.
AND AGAIN, THE BACKUP DATA TO THE NUMBERS WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY.
NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS IS THE FIRST PAGE OF THE REPORT IN 2024 AND 2017 HAVE SEPARATE REPORTS, BUT IT'S THE SAME FORMAT. AND WE HAVE A PROPOSITION OVERVIEW.
WE HAVE AN OPEN AND CLOSED PROJECT SECTION. AND WE'LL GO OVER THAT IN A MINUTE.
AND THEN THE COUNCIL DISTRICT OVERVIEW. NEXT SLIDE.
SO THE SECOND AND THIRD PAGE OF THE OVERALL REPORT, IT SHOWS A BREAKDOWN BY THE CATEGORY OF THE PROPOSITIONS WITH THE TWO LARGEST UNENCUMBERED BALANCES. SO THAT WOULD BE FOR STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION AND THEN PARKS AND REC TOO.
NEXT SLIDE. EXCUSE ME. SO GOING BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE OF THE REPORT WHERE IT SHOWED THE THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. THE FIRST SECTION SHOWS THE UNENCUMBERED FUNDS FORECAST BY PROPOSITION.
AND THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE BAR REPORT.
SO, THIS SECTION SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF BONDS THAT HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED BY THE VOTER, THE 2025 APPROPRIATIONS AMOUNT, WHAT HAS BEEN ENCUMBERED AND EXPENDED IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2025, THE UNENCUMBERED BALANCE, THE 20 FISCAL YEAR 25 FORECAST FOR QUARTERS TWO THROUGH FOUR OF WHAT? WHAT WILL BE ENCUMBERED. AND THEN WORKING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS AND USING THEIR PROJECTIONS IS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT FORECAST.
AND THEN THE LAST COLUMN SHOWS THE FISCAL YEAR 26 UNENCUMBERED BEGINNING BALANCE.
NEXT SLIDE. SO THE MIDDLE SECTION OF THE REPORTS WILL SHOW AN OPEN AND CLOSED UNENCUMBERED BY PROJECTS OR, I'M SORRY, OPEN AND CLOSED PROJECTS.
AND HOW MUCH IS UNENCUMBERED FOR OPEN PROJECTS.
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THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE STILL IN PROGRESS, BUT MAY NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR THINGS LIKE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENTS OR CHANGE ORDERS.CLOSED PROJECTS SHOWS THE REMAINING FUNDS THAT WILL BE ALLOCATED EITHER TOWARDS DEBT SERVICE, ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OR COVERING COSTS FOR OVERRUNS ON OTHER PROJECTS.
SO, FUNDS CAN'T BE USED FOR PROJECTS THAT COME UP NECESSARILY FROM THE CLOSED BALANCE, BUT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITH THE OVERALL LIMITATION OF A PROPOSITION. SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT IN THERE.
AND YOU WILL NOTE THAT THE LAST LINE SHOWS A MULTI COUNCIL DISTRICT LINE.
AND THAT IS FOR WE HAD SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WERE JUST TOO MUCH TO LIST IN IN ONE TABLE.
IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT INFORMATION IS SHOWN IN THE BACKUP DATA THAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, THOUGH, IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
AND THIS TABLE ALSO HAD SIMILAR COLUMNS AS THE FIRST PART OF THAT REPORT.
SO NEXT SLIDE. SO, FOR 2012 AND 2006, THESE REPORTS HAVE A DIFFERENT FOCUS COMPARED TO THE 2017 AND 2024 BOND PROGRAM. THE REMAINING PROJECTS ARE LARGER IN SCALE WITH EXTENDED TIMELINES TO COMPLETE THE PROJECTS, AND WE EXPECT THESE QUARTERLY REPORTS WILL REFLECT MINIMAL CHANGES DUE TO THE NATURE OF THESE PROJECTS.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND THE 2017, 2024 REPORT IS THE BOTTOM SECTION IS NOT BROKEN DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT RATHER BY CATEGORY OF A PROPOSITION. NEXT SLIDE.
AND THE SAME COLUMNS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE INITIAL REPORT FOR 2017 2024.
NEXT SLIDE. AND HERE AGAIN WE SHOW THE OPEN AND CLOSED PROJECTS FOR 2012 AND 2016 TO 2006. EXCUSE ME. NEXT SLIDE. SO, HERE'S WHERE THE REPORT CHANGES A LITTLE BIT.
THIS SECTION THIS SECTION IS THE QUARTERLY REPORT WILL REFLECT WHAT WE'RE CALLING A ROADMAP TO IDENTIFY THE INFRASTRUCTURE CATEGORIES THAT ARE FORECASTED TO BE AWARDED FROM THE VARIOUS PROPOSITIONS. AND AGAIN, WE WORKED WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THEIR FORECAST IS GOING TO BE.
NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE A COUNCIL DISTRICT SPECIFIC FUNDING REPORT.
THIS REPORT SHOWS WHAT WE USED TO CALL DISCRETIONARY OR COUNCIL DISTRICT SPECIFIC FUNDING UNENCUMBERED REMAINING BALANCE FOR 2017. YOU MAY NOTE THAT IT'S ALL IN PROPOSITION I OR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROPOSITION IN 2024.
THOSE FUNDS ARE SPREAD OUT AMONGST VARIOUS PROPOSITIONS.
NEXT SLIDE. SO, HERE'S OUR REPORTING SCHEDULE.
SO TODAY WE'RE BRINGING YOU THE PRESENTATION OF WHAT IT IS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT.
WE WILL HAVE A FRIDAY MEMO WITH A LINK TO WHERE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THIS REPORT.
THE FRIDAY MEMO WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE ACTUAL REPORT AS WELL.
AND THEN WE PLAN ON COMING BACK TO GPFM IN MAY, AUGUST AND DECEMBER, AND IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL BRIEFINGS UPON REQUEST, WE'D BE HAPPY TO COME BACK. NEXT SLIDE. SO BEFORE WE GET TO Q&A, I DO JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU OF THE APPENDIX AND THE QR CODES WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET THE FULL ON REPORT AND THEN THE DATA.
AND THEN WITH THAT WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.
I CERTAINLY HAVE SOME THAT WANT TO GET US KICKED OFF.
CHAIR MENDELSOHN. WELL, IT MIGHT SURPRISE YOU, BUT I ONLY HAVE ONE.
SO, THE QUESTION IS ACTUALLY, SO JUST SOMETHING YOU HADN'T QUITE ADDRESSED, BUT IS THERE A TIME LIMITATION FROM THE TIME THAT THE VOTERS HAVE APPROVED A PROPOSITION BEFORE WE'RE ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO AUTHORIZE THE FINANCING, THAT WE CAN GO OUT FOR DEBT? YEAH. SO IF I UNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION CORRECTLY, FROM THE AUTHORIZATION, UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY ISSUE THE BONDS, YOU HAVE AUTHORIZATION FOR TEN YEARS. TEN. AND SO.
TO THE ACTUAL AUTHORIZATION AND I'M SORRY TO THE ISSUANCE, NOT THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURE.
SO, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2006, LIKE YOU'RE WORKING REALLY, REALLY HARD TO.
SO ALL BONDS FROM 2017 BOND PROGRAM APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND PRIOR ALL BONDS HAVE BEEN ISSUED.
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OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. WELL WAIT, THERE WERE SOME BEFORE 20.THERE WERE THERE WERE SOME BEFORE THAT THOUGH BEFORE 06 THAT WERE NEVER ISSUED.
CORRECT. SO, THE ONLY CASE WHERE WE DIDN'T ISSUE SOME BONDS WOULD HAVE BEEN WE HAD A REQUIREMENT FOR SOME MATCHING FUNDS ON SOME PARK AND RECREATION BONDS, AND WITHOUT THE MATCHING FUNDS, THEY COULDN'T BE ISSUED.
BUT THOSE ARE PRETTY SMALL AMOUNTS. BUT ALL BONDS, ALL OF OUR AUTHORIZATION EXCEPT FOR 24 IS GONE.
SO, SOMEBODY HAD BROUGHT UP TO ME JUST RECENTLY THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE PREVIOUSLY VOTED FOR A POLICE ACADEMY BEFORE THE 2024 BOND, AND THAT THAT WAS NOT ISSUED. IS THAT CORRECT? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WAS AUTHORIZED, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN A POLICE PROPOSITION.
BUT WE WOULD HAVE. I THINK IT WAS LABELED PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES.
PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES, ANY OF THE PRIOR BONDS APPROVED BY VOTERS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ISSUED.
I'LL GO BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. THANKS. JACK, IT MAY BE THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS PORTION, REMEMBER, THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS GOING TO POSSIBLY BE THE POLICE TRAINING, AND IT WAS WITH THE TRINITY RIVER, AND IT WASN'T I DON'T THINK IT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR A TRAINING FACILITY, BUT THAT WAS THE CONTEXT IN WHICH A LOT OF THOSE BONDS WERE SOLD.
OKAY. IT WAS A LAND ACQUISITION. IT WASN'T FOR THE IT WASN'T TO BUILD.
IT WAS JUST THE LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE POLICE ACADEMY.
THAT WAS, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH WAS THE I THINK IT WAS IN THE EARLY 2006, I THINK.
DEV PROBABLY REMEMBERS WORKING ON THAT ONE BECAUSE IT WAS DURING I DON'T THINK IT WAS 2006, BUT ONE OF THE EARLY ONES THAT WAS FOCUSED ON THE TRINITY RIVER.
AND, AND SO AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THAT WAS A TALKING POINT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE RELOCATION OF HOMES IN ORDER TO BUILD UP OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN TO BUILD A TRAINING FACILITY. BUT THAT THAT WAS MY RECOLLECTION.
BUT I'VE SLEPT SINCE. NO, I DO RECALL THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
BUT AGAIN, THOSE BONDS HAVE ALL BEEN ISSUED AND I THINK IT WAS NOT FOR BRICK AND MORTAR.
I THINK IT WAS FOR LAND ACQUISITION. SO YEAH, I DO HAVE QUESTIONS TOO.
OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE 24 ONE AND DOING IT.
BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S SOME THAT'S UNENCUMBERED.
IT DOESN'T. DOES IT ALSO MEAN THAT IF THERE'S LIKE IF IT COMES BACK AND THE, THE, THE MONEY THAT WHAT IS THAT CALLED WHEN YOU, THE BID IS LOWER THAN WHAT WAS ALLOCATED.
WOULD IT SHOW AS UNENCUMBERED AS WELL. CORRECT.
YEAH. OKAY. SO, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT HAS IT ALL BEEN SPENT.
IT COULD MEAN THAT IT IS IN A IT CAME BACK LOWER THAN WHAT WE'D ANTICIPATED.
YEAH. AND THEY MAY WANT TO HOLD ON TO THAT MONEY FOR CHANGE ORDERS.
AND IT PROBABLY WAS BECAUSE OF THAT SAME SITUATION.
AND I KNOW WE'VE RECONFIGURED IT. CAN WE MEET TO JUST TALK ABOUT IF THERE.
BECAUSE IT COULD BE A PROP THAT IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN A PUBLIC SAFETY OR IN PARKS.
RIGHT. AND WE CAN TRY TO REPROGRAM SOME OF THAT MONEY.
BUT I MEAN, IT'S SMALL, BUT IT COULD GO A LONG WAY ON CLOSING GAPS.
YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YEP. AND THEN ALSO TO BACK TO WHAT MISS MENDELSOHN WAS SAYING, LIKE, HOW ARE Y'ALL HELPING INDIVIDUALS WORK THROUGH? AND IT MAY BE JUST COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BOND MONEY SITTING HERE.
HOW DO WE GET THAT DEPLOYED? I MEAN, WHAT IS OUR PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS ON THE STREET AND HELPING COMMUNITIES THAT NEED IT? SO I THINK THAT GOES INTO WELL FOR 2024, WHAT OUR FIVE YEAR BOND PROGRAM IS.
SO THAT WE, WE CAN KEEP MOVING FORWARD. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE PAST BOND PROGRAMS AS WELL.
SO INTERNALLY WE ARE WE ARE STARTING TO WORK ON THAT.
THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE THE FORECAST IN HERE, BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO DEPLOY THE DOLLARS EFFECTIVELY. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE WITH THE TOP TABLE IS YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE
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KIND OF THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER, THERE WERE SOME DOLLARS THAT WERE EXPENDED OBVIOUSLY IN 2024, BUT THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS JENNY MENTIONED, WE'RE WORKING WITH EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND ACROSS ALL THE PROPOSITIONS. SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE PLAN TO BE BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.WELL, AND WE HAVE WE HAVE TONS OF PLANS OUT THERE THAT I'M SURE THAT NEED FUNDING.
AND SO IT MAY BE THAT IT MATCHING A PLAN TO A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO AND HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
JUST A THOUGHT. AND ALSO TWO 20 WE JUST HAVE THE 2006 THAT WAS THE LAST ONE IS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE OTHER BONDS CLOSED AND WE'VE MOVED ON THE BOND, THE I THINK THE MAJORITY, I THINK THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT REMAINING IN 2003 IN LIKE THE FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT I THINK. YEAH. AND YEAH, THE 1998 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM WITH THE TRINITY RIVER PROPOSITION STILL HAS UNSPENT FUNDS PRIOR TO OH SIX. THE FORMER CITY MANAGER HAD WORKED WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER ON SOME EQUITY PROJECTS, AND ANY RESIDUALS AFTER THAT WERE BEING MOVED TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND.
NO NEW PROJECTS WERE BEING ADDED WITH ANY RESIDUAL.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GREAT PRESENTATION AND I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
IT'S STILL A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST IN A SHORT TIME FOR THE FIRST TIME.
BUT I WANT TO I'M GOING TO JUMP BETWEEN THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU HANDED OUT AND ALSO YOUR SLIDES.
LET'S GO TO SLIDE TEN JUST SO I CAN MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.
THIS IS YOUR 2012 AND 2006. SO VERY OLD BONDS 13 YEARS PLUS.
I SEE THAT WE'VE GOT ON HERE UNDER THE FORECAST AND UNDER THE UNENCUMBERED.
SO, UNDER FLOOD PROTECTION AND STORM DRAINAGE, WE'RE LOOKING AT $12 MILLION AND UNENCUMBERED IS.
THIS IS FOR A LARGE FLOOD PROJECT, I ASSUME, LIKE A NEW PUMP STATION OR SOMETHING.
I THINK IT'S FOR MILL CREEK. MILL CREEK. SO IT'S JUST ONGOING.
IT IS? YEAH. I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT PROJECT.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE FUNDS ARE FOR. GOTCHA.
I MEAN, JUST AS WE'RE TALKING TO CONSTITUENTS AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHY DO WE HAVE $12 MILLION JUST SITTING THERE UNUSED? IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT TALKING POINT. WHAT ABOUT THE 10 MILLION IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS THAT'S NOT ENCUMBERED? OR THAT I GUESS JUST NOW IS GETTING FORECAST AFTER 13 YEARS? LET ME. SORRY.
I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT, I APOLOGIZE.
THAT'S FINE. I THOUGHT I HAD THAT WITH ME. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS ARE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE TYPICALLY. ARE THEY TYPICALLY COUNCIL DISTRICT SPECIFIC OR CAN THEY BE.
THEY CAN BE ALSO CITYWIDE. I THINK UNTIL 2017 THEY WERE CITYWIDE.
2017 WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAD THE COUNCIL DISTRICT SPECIFIC MONEY.
IS THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH. IN 2017 IT'S ALL ECO DEV PROPOSITION.
NOW IF WE HAVE FUNDS THAT ARE STILL LINGERING THERE, DOES THAT COUNT AGAINST OUR BOND CAPACITY? IF THOSE DOLLARS ARE JUST KIND OF HANGING OUT THERE FOR 7 OR 8 YEARS.
NO, SIR. DOES NOT. OKAY. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. AND DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM PARKS IN THE ROOM? WHAT'S UP? MAYBE YOU COULD ANSWER THIS.
I'M LOOKING AT THE 2017. THIS IS THE HANDOUT THAT WAS GIVEN OUT HERE.
SO, WE'VE GOT FROM 2017, UNENCUMBERED TRAIL DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS, $9 MILLION.
HOW HAVE WE NOT BEEN ABLE TO PLUG THAT IN SINCE 2017? STEFAN KESSLER WITH PARKS AND REC. I WILL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
THE TRAILS PROGRAM MANAGER IS JARED WHITE. I'LL NEED TO TALK TO HIM.
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OKAY. CAN YOU ANSWER, THEN WHY WE STILL HAVE $11.8 MILLION IN UNENCUMBERED FUNDS FOR PARK AND REC FACILITIES, OR $4.7 MILLION IN LAND ACQUISITION.IT'S NOT APPARENT. SO I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON IT.
OKAY. LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE TEE THIS UP WITH THE NEXT BRIEFING.
WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH, BUT AT THE NEXT QUARTERLY BRIEFING.
THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR YOU. OKAY, I WILL SAY THAT ALL THE DOLLARS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH PROJECTS OR THE MAJORITY OF THEM, ESPECIALLY IN THE 2017, 2024 BOND PROGRAM, AND THAT THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IS IN THE SPREADSHEET THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE.
YES, SIR. OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM C WHICH IS REVIEW OF CITY REAL ESTATE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DONZELL GIBSON. COME ON DOWN .
IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO FOLLOW THAT INTRODUCTION, SO THANK YOU.
SHE'S THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN THE DEPARTMENT OF FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT.
AND IS MORE WELL KNOWN THAN MYSELF. ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO START ON SLIDE NUMBER THREE. TODAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO PROVIDE KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY UPDATE ON THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING ONGOING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT FOR POTENTIAL SALE, DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT AS APPROPRIATE.
GO TO SLIDE FIVE PLEASE JUAN. IT'S AN EXCERPT FROM THE GOVERNMENT CODE THAT SPEAKS TO THE NEED ON OCCASION FOR US TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD MENTIONED TO THE COMMITTEE BEFORE, AND I WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT, IS I WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING OR US ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION THAT MIGHT LATER ON PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE THE PROPERTY'S VALUE COULD POTENTIALLY BE DIMINISHED, OR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE HIGHEST, BEST USE FOR THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY COULD BE DIMINISHED.
SO IF THERE'S SOME HESITANCY ON OUR PART, OR IF WE LOOK FOR A SIDEBAR TO ONE OF THE CITY ATTORNEYS, IT WOULD BE BECAUSE WE MAY ASK FOR YOU TO DOCUMENT THAT QUESTION POTENTIALLY IN WRITING FOR US TO THEN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION, TO PROVIDE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS, THAT WE MAY NOT BELIEVE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO DO OUT IN THE PUBLIC REALM.
AND WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT THAT ACQUISITION.
KYNDRYL IS A DATA CENTER OPERATOR, AND THEY'RE USING THAT BUILDING FOR SUCH.
WE'RE WORKING WITH A BROKER NOW THAT IS HELPING SUPPORT THE CITY'S POTENTIAL CAPACITY TO DIVEST OF THE BUILDING AND ADVERTISE IT AS A DATA CENTER. AS WE BRIEFED YOU IN THE PAST, TODAY, THAT BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE THE CERTIFICATION THAT WOULD BE LABELED THAT WAY AND WITH THE ABILITY FOR US TO POTENTIALLY ADVERTISE IT THAT WAY, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THE VALUE OF THAT BUILDING.
SO STAFF IS GOING TO BE WORKING AND POTENTIALLY BRINGING SOME PROPOSALS FORWARD.
THAT WILL INCLUDE OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE BUILDING CERTIFIED PROPERLY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DURING THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND SOME OTHER ACTIONS BEFORE COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT THE BULLINGTON TRUCK TERMINAL.
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LEAVE US IN A POSITION WHERE SOMETHING UNIQUE, PERIOD.WE'RE NOT FINDING A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARILY COMPARABLE.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE THANKSGIVING FOUNDATION, WHERE WE HAVE A LEASE.
AND THERE'LL BE FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S ACTUALLY A MEMORANDUM AS PART OF ONE OF YOUR BRIEFING MEMOS, CHAIR WEST, FOR THE COMMITTEE TODAY THAT SPEAKS TO AN ACTION THAT THE CFO WANTS US TO TAKE PLACE ON A MARCH AGENDA RELATIVE TO CONTINUING WITH THE ELEMENTS OF THE CONTRACT, AS IS, WHILE WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING, AND WITH THE HOPES THAT IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'D BE IN A POSITION TO BRING KIND OF A NEW ARRANGEMENT, A RENEGOTIATED AGREEMENT, BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 711 SOUTH SAINT PAUL. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY JUST KIND OF HAS SOME NOTORIETY, AT LEAST IN IN MY EYES. IT'S BEEN ON TELEVISION AND IT WAS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO AND CHANGE.
AND WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION TO NOT BE IN THAT POINT AT THAT POINT, AGAIN, WITH A PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND WE'RE STILL DOING THAT.
WE'RE NOT PERFECT, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY IMPROVING, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT COUNCIL WILL SEE THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO SHAPE OUR POLICY AND PROCEDURES AROUND JUST THAT. SO, COUNCIL GAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO SELL THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AS SURPLUS.
WE DID SO IN A TWO TIERED PROCESS, THE SECOND TIER, WHICH OBLIGATED THE CITY TO DEMO THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN DEMOED AT THIS POINT. IT IS COMPLETE AND STAFF IS MOVING FORWARD WITH COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO FINISH THE ACTUAL SALE OF THE BUILDING AND DIVEST OF IT, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BEING HERE BEFORE THE CLOSE OF THIS MONTH, IF NOT EARLY MARCH. AND I'M NOT SURE IF. OKAY, MISS ASHLEY'S GIVING ME THE NOD, SO I THINK I'M IN GOOD TERRITORY BECAUSE OF THAT.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 606 AND 700 SOUTH.
GOOD LATIMER. AND THIS IS AN INTERESTING COUPLE OF PARCELS HERE FROM THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.
I WAS HANDED A LIST OF POTENTIAL PROPERTIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT THAT ALSO INCLUDED THE FIFTH FLOOR OF 2014, MAIN AND SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE SINCE BRIEFED AND SAID THAT.
SO UNLESS THERE'S A CHANGE IN SENTIMENT ON COUNCIL'S PART ABOUT THE PARK DEVELOPMENT AT THIS LOCATION, WE WON'T BE LOOKING AT DIVESTING THIS PROPERTY AND IT WILL COME OFF OF OUR LIST OF PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN BRIEFING OR WILL BE BRIEFING GPFM AND COUNCIL FOR FURTHER STEPS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
RIGHT. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE. WHILE THEY'RE REDOING THE LIBRARY AT THE SAME LOCATION, THERE HAD BEEN A VISION AND SOME COMMENTS AND SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT USING THIS LIBRARY AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FURTHER DEVELOPMENT, MEANING SOME FORM OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO, TO SOME DEGREE BECOME A DEVELOPER AND DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SOME TYPE OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE A LIBRARY.
THERE WAS MONEY SET ASIDE, AND THERE WAS AN RFP THAT'S OUT THAT MR. ASHLEY CAN POTENTIALLY TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE FURTHER ABOUT.
WE'VE ENGAGED CBRE AND THEY'VE BEEN HAVING A SERIES OF MEETINGS AND DOING SOME ANALYSIS ON THE FEASIBILITY OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT KIND OF DEAL AND PACKAGE THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE THERE. I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME FURTHER CONVERSATIONS AMONG STAFF ABOUT OTHER ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE ALSO SHARED WITH CBRE, AS THEY'RE DOING THAT, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT THE OAK CLIFF CULTURAL CENTER AND POTENTIALLY TAKING THAT SITE AND CO-LOCATING IT WITH THE LIBRARY AND THEN POTENTIALLY DIVESTING OF THAT CULTURAL CENTER, WITH THE HOPES THAT THOSE PROCEEDS COULD THEN POTENTIALLY BE USED TO HELP SUPPORT FURTHER DEVELOPMENT THERE AT THE OAK CLIFF LIBRARY LOCATION.
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THAT'S ONGOING ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS. BUT IT'S ONE THING IF I HEAR FROM THE LIBRARY IS WE HAVE MET WITH THEM MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS NEW, UNCHARTED TERRITORY FOR THEM AS WELL AS OTHER STAFF.OUR PRINCIPAL GOAL HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE DONE, THAT AS THE VOTERS APPROVE THE LIBRARY, A NEW LIBRARY AT THIS LOCATION, THAT WILL BE OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY WHICH ASKED FOR A LIBRARY GETS ONE.
AND IF WE CAN BONUS THAT OUT WITH SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT THERE, ALL THE BETTER.
AND THIS IS A LOCATION. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY FOR TODAY, BUT VERY LIKELY WE WILL COME BACK AND HAVE KIND OF MORE OF A DEEPER DIVE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY AND OTHERS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OAK CLIFF MUNICIPAL CENTER STAFF, WE CALL IT OCMOC.
IT SAYS ON THE DEPARTMENT LIBRARY, I THINK THAT'S A MISTAKE.
I THINK IT SHOULD ACTUALLY SAY MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTAL.
THERE'S SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT COHABITATE IN THAT BUILDING.
THE PREDOMINANT CUSTOMERS BEING, OR SHOULD I SAY CLIENTS IN THE BUILDING BEING THE PERMIT CENTER.
SO, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT CHICKEN AND THE EGG, ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT ACTUALLY HOUSE STAFF.
AND SO OUR CURRENT RECOMMENDATION OR OPTIONS WE WOULD HAVE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER WOULD BE TO HOLD THIS BUILDING UNTIL SOME OTHER DECISIONS COULD BE MADE, INCLUDING WHERE TO RELOCATE THE SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WORK IN THAT BUILDING TODAY, AND FIND THEM A NEW HOME BEFORE WE WOULD VACATE AND THEN DIVEST OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED RIGHT NOW, UNTIL SOME FURTHER PLANS, AND WE CAN DEVELOP SOME NEXT STEP STRATEGIES THAT WE WOULD PUT A HOLD AND KIND OF PUMP THE BRAKES ON THE POTENTIAL DIVESTITURE OF OAK CLIFF MUNICIPAL CENTER.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. PARK FOREST LIBRARY. VERY SIMILAR TO THE OAK CLIFF LIBRARY.
IT'S BEEN ENVISIONED FOR THE OPTION FOR SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WHERE THERE WOULD BE A DEVELOPMENT TO GET THE CONTINUED HIGHEST, BEST USE, POTENTIALLY GOING VERTICAL, SO TO SPEAK, AT THIS LOCATION.
AND CBRE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ACTUALLY. OKAY, SO CBRE IS ALSO WORKING AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION AND DEVELOPING STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A DEEPER DIVE AT SOME POINT TO GET MORE DETAIL ON.
OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL OBVIOUSLY WILL BE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A LIBRARY THERE.
THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED THAT THEY'LL BE COMPETING INTERESTS.
AND SO THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR LIBRARY IS THERE.
AND WE'VE ASSURED THEM THAT THAT'S OUR MAIN GOAL.
DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT. I MADE A JOKE A FEW WEEKS AGO, OR MAYBE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO THAT IF IT HAD BEEN ME, I WOULDN'T HAVE NECESSARILY PUT THIS ONE ON THE LIST.
BUT I INHERITED IT. SO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
A LOT OF ACREAGE THERE, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF FAA REGULATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE'VE HAD SOME RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION AND DEV RASTOGI, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THAT AVIATION IS IN HER PORTFOLIO ABOUT WHAT'S BEST TO DO THERE.
THERE'S A HISTORY OF PLANS AND APPROACHES AND THINGS THAT HAVE COME AND GO OVER THE YEARS, SOME SUCCESSFUL, SOME NOT. AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME RECENT CONVERSATIONS WITH PATRICK, THE DIRECTOR OF AVIATION, ABOUT WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE. AND SO AS MUCH AS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY REQUIRED TO DO AN RFI AND A KIND OF A POTENTIALLY UNIQUE PROCESS THAT WE MIGHT GO THROUGH TO GET A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER FROM THE AVIATION INDUSTRY'S FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT OPTIONS THERE ARE FOR THE CITY.
YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT COME BACK IN GREATER DETAIL.
AND ACTUALLY, AS MUCH AS BEING LED BY MYSELF, JOHN JOHNSON, WHO'S OUT TODAY AND OR ASHLEY.
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF ENTANGLEMENTS THERE AT THAT PROPERTY THAT WE WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH THE NEXT STEPS THERE, AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN DEPTH IN DEEPER DIVE LATER.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS A DALLAS WATER UTILITIES PROPERTY.
BUT FOR SAKE OF TIME, I GOT VOLUNTOLD THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY TODAY.
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THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY, WHAT THE CITY'S OPTIONS ARE THERE.I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M PROBABLY THE BEST RESOURCE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE BEING HAD AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, EVEN ABOVE MY PAY THRESHOLD. SO, AT THIS POINT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY COME BACK, PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE SOME EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSIONS ON THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING KIND OF BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT IT'S ON THE LIST. IT WAS PART OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE INHERITED, SO WE'LL KEEP COMING BACK AND LEAVE IT ON THE LIST.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALL RIGHT, THE AUTO POUND.
NONE OF IT MY FAULT, BY THE WAY. BUT SO, ANYWAY, LONG STORY SHORT, THIS ONE'S ON THE LIST.
IT'S AN EXISTING PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY'S STILL IN USE OF.
IT'S AFFECTIONATELY USED ON A REGULAR BASIS BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO, THE DISCUSSION IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO HERE? YOU GOT YOU GOT TWO LARGE PARCELS HERE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE MAP, THERE'S A THE TOP PORTION THERE IN THE FIRST PHOTO THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED TODAY AND OPERATED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN THE SECOND PHOTO SHOWS A PARCEL THAT'S BASICALLY UNDEVELOPED LAND.
I THINK IT'S RIGHT AT 24 ACRES. SO, THE CONVERSATION HAD FOR MANY YEARS HAD BEEN, YOU KNOW WHAT? UNTIL WE CAN, LIKE, DEVELOP THE ENTIRE SITE, UNTIL WE CAN ADD UP ALL THE ACREAGE WHICH ASHLEY HELP ME IS I THINK IT'S ANOTHER 50 ALMOST ACRES IN PHOTO ONE. OKAY, SO ALMOST 70 TOTAL ACRES.
IF WE WERE TO POTENTIALLY FIND AN OPTION TO RELOCATE THE AUTO POUND, AND THEN WE JUST GIVE IT A GO AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S 70 ACRES AND RIGHT OUT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN, BEAUTIFUL VIEWS FROM THE AUTO POUND OVERLOOKING DOWNTOWN.
LET'S GO. WELL, WE'RE NOT READY YET. DPD IS STILL ASSESSING WHERE TO CO-LOCATE, EXCUSE ME, SOME OTHER RESOURCES POTENTIALLY AS WELL. HOW TO POTENTIALLY DOWNSIZE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE FROM THIS LOCATION.
AND THAT'S AN ONGOING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND PROCESS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
BUT IF THERE IS TIME AND SPACE AND ENERGY ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS COULD BE AND AGAIN, IT DOESN'T IN MY MIND, PRECLUDE THE CAPACITY FOR SOMEBODY TO STILL LOOK AT ALL ALMOST 60 OR 70 PLUS ACRES TOGETHER AS ONE HUGE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THAT'S BUT THAT'S FOR DEBATE POTENTIALLY AS WE MOVE ON.
ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. CENTRAL SERVICE CENTER.
WOW. IT'S A IT'S A HUGE COMPLEX THAT HOUSES MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS THAT PROVIDE SERVICE TO TO LARGE PORTIONS OF NOT JUST THE CENTRAL PART OF OUR CITY, BUT CITYWIDE.
AND SO IN AN EFFORT FOR US TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT DIVESTING OF THIS LOCATION, WE NEED A PLAN FOR WHERE ALL OF THESE RESOURCES A THERE'S A THERE'S A EQUIPMENT AND FLEET MANAGEMENT SERVICE CENTER THERE WHERE VEHICLES ARE REPAIRED. THERE'S A FUELING ISLAND THERE WHERE OUR EQUIPMENT AND OUR VEHICLES GET FUEL.
AND AS THINGS ARE TODAY, MAYBE OUR NORMAL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR OUR CITY WOULD BE TO HAVE THIS IN A BOND PROGRAM THAT WOULD HELP US BE IN A POSITION TO ACTUALLY RELOCATE ALL THESE FACILITIES ELSEWHERE.
THAT WAS NOT A CONSIDERATION THAT HAD BEEN BAKED IN AT THIS POINT.
SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY SOME EXISTING LAND.
AND I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE, BECAUSE THAT IS AN OPTION POTENTIALLY, THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH AND CAN EXPLORE, OR A DEVELOPMENT DEAL WHERE WE SELL THE PROPERTY WITH THE HOPES THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WILL THEN BUILD OUR REPLACEMENT LOCATION.
AND IT'S A PART OF THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE.
SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE HAVE USED OUR FRIENDS AT THE EDC WITH THE HOPES THAT THEY COULD COME IN AND HELP US WORK THROUGH WHAT THAT REPLACEMENT COST MIGHT LOOK LIKE, WHAT A DEAL A STRUCTURE LIKE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE.
AND WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE OR FULL COUNCIL, MAYBE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO THAT'S THE NEXT SEGUE. ONE, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE 17, PLEASE.
SO THERE'S A SYMBIOTIC POTENTIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND CADILLAC HEIGHTS.
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I KNOW THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS BY MISS MENDELSOHN MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT AT ONE TIME POTENTIALLY THIS HAD BEEN ADDRESSED AS A POTENTIAL LAND ACQUISITION FOR POLICE ACADEMY AND SOME WHOLE NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS.THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER VISIONS AND ITERATIONS THERE.
WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP WITH PHASE ONE IN THE PHOTO.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TELL OR NOT, BUT PHASE ONE IS THE ROLAND PARISH PARK, PHASE TWO, WHICH YOU'LL NOTICE HERE IN THE BLUE AND KIND OF THE MAROON OR VIOLET COLOR, SO TO SPEAK. THOSE ARE PARCELS THAT THE CITY DOES NOT YET OWN.
SOMETIME IN 2022. UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, THERE HAD BEEN A PAUSE AND A PUMP ON THE BRAKES AS IT RELATES TO ANY FURTHER SITE ACQUISITION IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS FOR WHY THOSE ACQUISITIONS MIGHT HAVE BEEN STALLED OR STOPPED AT THE MOMENT.
BUT OUR NEW CITY MANAGER HAS GIVEN STAFF DIRECTION TO START THAT PROCESS AGAIN.
ASHLEY AND HER TEAM ARE GOING THROUGH AND WORKING TO GET APPRAISALS AND WORKING THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ACTUALLY FINISH OUT THE CLOSURE AND PURCHASE OF THE REMAINING PARCELS IN THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS AREA.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK HERE, AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT MAYBE THE CITY REALLY HADN'T DONE BEFORE. AND WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT A NEW LOOK FROM A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ROLE AND SOME ROLES THAT THE CITY IN PLAYING DEVELOPER AND HAVING HIGHER AND GREATER USE OF OUR PROPERTY.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME HELP. I JOKINGLY TELL ASHLEY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OTHER FULL TIME JOBS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, AND THIS HERE IS A REAL MAMMOTH UNDERTAKING FOR US, AND WE NEED HELP.
THE EDC IS HAS BEEN VERY OPEN IN DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THEM TO HELP, AND LINDA MCMAHON HAS BEEN VERY VALUABLE IN WORKING AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH AND POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT WHAT KIND OF POTENTIAL AGREEMENT THAT WE COULD HAVE WITH THEM IN THE FUTURE TO HELP SUPPORT SOME OF OUR KEY GOALS AND INITIATIVES THAT COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN AND ALSO HELPING, WHICH THERE'S A MEMORANDUM THAT'S TIED TO THE COMMITTEE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE EFFORTS.
AND WE'VE STARTED SOME WORK THERE. AND THERE'S LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A WHOLE MEMORANDUM DEDICATED JUST TO THAT EFFORT THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AS THE COMMITTEE SO WISHES. BUT NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NEXT STEPS.
THERE ARE GOING TO BE FUTURE UPDATES HERE. I KNOW CHAIR WEST HAS ASKED US THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
IF NOT EVERY MEETING, THAT WE HAVE SOME UPDATE AND DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE WE ARE RELATIVE TO THESE PROPERTIES AND, AND TO ENGAGE AND GIVE STAFF FEEDBACK ABOUT OUR NEXT STEPS.
AND WE'RE STILL WORKING ON REVISED ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVES AND INSTRUCTIONS TO STAFF THAT INCLUDE HOW WE TAKE CARE OF PROPERTY AND HOW WE TAKE STEPS IN ACQUIRING PROPERTY AND THE DUE DILIGENCE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND A WHOLE RANGE OF THINGS THAT I COULD SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT, INCLUDING CLEANING UP OUR INVENTORY AND OUR SYSTEMS AND SOFTWARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO IF SOMEBODY ASKS US TOMORROW, GIVE ME AN ENTIRE LIST OF PROPERTY THAT ACTUALLY WOULDN'T PANIC AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, LET US CLEAN THAT UP FOR YOU BEFORE WE SEND IT YOUR WAY.
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHAIR. MORENO. THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AND, KIM, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, THIS GROUP IS WORKING OVERTIME.
A QUESTION ON THE TWO LIBRARY SITES. HOW ARE WE MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE TWO? WITH AN INTERIM LIBRARY DIRECTOR AND SORT OF WHAT'S THE STATUS OF A THE VISION OF A NEW LIBRARY DIRECTOR.
AND SO ARE WE WAITING FOR THAT DIRECTOR TO BE PLACED OR ARE WE STILL MOVING FORWARD? SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, BUT STILL TRYING TO GET A VISION FROM OUR NEW DIRECTOR.
YOU MAKE A VERY SOUND AND VALID POINT. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE SECURING OF A NEW DIRECTOR, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD TO MOVE FORWARD, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN MOVE IN SUCH A WAY THAT A DECISION POINT OR A POINT OF NO RETURN,
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SO TO SPEAK, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME HERE AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT ANY NEW VISIONS AND LEADERSHIP OR OUR BEST NEXT STEPS THAT WILL ALIGN THOSE THINGS SO THAT WE DON'T GET ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF THE OTHER FURTHER THAN WE SHOULD.OKAY. ON 606 AND 700 GOOD LATIMER. THEY ARE LISTED AS IN DISTRICT 14.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN DISTRICT TWO. SORRY FOR THE TYPO.
NO, YOU'RE GOOD. THE CITY CENTRAL SERVICE CENTER.
AND JUST GLAD THAT SHE SHARES THE SAME VISION.
I DON'T THINK WE HAD THAT IN OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER, WHO REALLY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE OVERALL FORECASTING ON WHAT THIS POTENTIAL SITE COULD ACTUALLY BE AND ITS TRANSFORMATION.
SO, I JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR REALLY PRIORITIZING THIS AS ONE OF MY PRIORITIES.
I'VE MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES THERE'S A LEASE GROUND FOR AN ANTENNA THAT'S OUT THERE.
AND THAT GOES FOR ANY OF OUR OTHER PROPERTIES.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ANTENNAS THAT ARE DFR STATIONS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BECOME SURPLUS PROPERTY.
SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING MINDFUL ON GROUND LEASES AND OR AIR RIGHT LEASES AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE POTENTIALLY BEING OFFLOADED. I LOVE THE IDEA OF POTENTIALLY MOVING THE CITY SERVICE CENTER TO AN ADJACENT SITE.
AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, ARE WE INCLUDING THE NEEDS INVENTORY FOR THE CITY SERVICE CENTER? BECAUSE, IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S MAINTENANCE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT.
AND THERE'S UPGRADES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN.
RIGHT. AND SO RATHER THAN PUTTING THOSE DOLLARS, REINVESTING IT BACK INTO THE CURRENT CITY SERVICE CENTER, ARE WE BETTER OFF STARTING NEW AS OPPOSED TO JUST CONTINUING TO PUT A BAND AID ON THESE BUILDINGS THAT WERE, I THINK, BUILT AROUND THE 60S. YOU BRING AN INTERESTING THOUGHT PROCESS TO BEAR.
WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL DOLLARS AT THIS LOCATION THAT HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE WITH THE INTENT TO REDEVELOP OR EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE SERVICE CENTER AT THIS POINT.
AND IF IT WOULD, WHAT IF THERE WERE? WE'D PROBABLY HAVE SOME PAUSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TIMING OF IT AND THE PROCESS THAT WE USE IS SO THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WATCHING THE RIGHT HAND AND THE LEFT HAND WHILE WE'RE MAKING THESE DEALS.
BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE SERVICE CENTER IS ALIVE AND WELL AND IS USED ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
SO THERE IS, YOU KNOW, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE THAT GOES INTO KEEPING THOSE BUILDINGS TOGETHER UNTIL WE HAVE A MORE STRUCTURED PLAN WHERE WE POTENTIALLY IDLE OR SLOW DOWN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THERE.
AS WE'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL MIXED USE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SETTING ASIDE GREEN SPACE, THAT WE'RE SETTING ASIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A NEW POLICE AND FIRE STATION AND FINDING AN AGREEMENT THAT WILL COEXIST WITH THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THERE AGAIN. CHAIRMAN WEST, THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS ON THE AGENDA.
I WOULD LIKE, THOUGH, TO SEE MORE SPECIFIC NEXT STEPS IN GIVING STAFF MORE OF A DIRECTION ON HOW FAST THIS IS MOVING. I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING UPDATES, BUT I'M NOT SEEING, YOU KNOW, MOVEMENT AS FAR AS DOLLARS OR WHAT IT WOULD COST TO MAKE SOME OF THESE CHANGES.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN TO THAT.
BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
WELL THANK YOU. FIRST, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU, CHAIR WEST, FOR BRINGING THIS BACK OVER AND OVER.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THAT. AND IT'S THAT IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY.
IF I CAN ASK THAT, WE ADD TO THE INFORMATION ON EACH PROPERTY THE NUMBER OF ACRES.
I'LL JUST KEEP SAYING STUFF EVENTUALLY IT HAPPENS.
YEAH, I THINK WE'D ASK FOR THAT BEFORE. SO, LET'S MAKE SURE WE KEEP THAT ON HERE.
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THE SECOND THING IS IF WE'VE ALREADY PUT MONEY INTO SOMETHING, IF WE COULD INCLUDE THAT.SO WE KEEP SAYING THE WORD CADILLAC HEIGHTS. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT ONE.
WE HAVE INVESTED MONEY IN DEVELOPING THAT AREA.
SO IF WE CAN LIST THAT, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE MIGHT NOT WANT TO PUT LIKE AN APPRAISED VALUE.
SO I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY. BUT IF THERE'S SOME SUNK COSTS THAT WE HAVE IN A PROPERTY, THE FIRST PROPERTY I WANT TO DISCUSS IS ON PAGE SIX.
SO THIS IS UNTIL WE HAVE A PLAN. AND FOR YEARS NOW I HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT, PLEASE, WE HAVE TO MOVE OUR SERVER ROOM. WE HAVE TO UPGRADE THAT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S SECURE.
AND WE HAVE WAITED AND WE'VE WAITED. AND NOW I'M NOT HEARING THAT WE'RE MOVING THERE.
AND SO UNTIL WE HAVE A PLAN, REALLY I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DISPOSE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THE URGENCY OF MOVING OUR SERVER ROOM SHOULD PROBABLY BE THE FIRST THING ON THIS AGENDA.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE PAYING SUFFICIENT ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE.
WE KNOW IT'S A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE AND KNOW WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
WE KNOW IT MUST BE CHANGED AND IT MUST BE CHANGED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND SO WHETHER WE OUTSOURCE EVERY BIT OF THAT AND JUST DISMANTLE OURS, OR WE MOVE IT HERE OR WE MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR ANY OF THOSE. I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T EVEN THINK WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING WITH THIS PROPERTY UNTIL WE HAVE A PLAN FOR OUR OWN SERVER NEEDS, WHICH ARE AGAIN, A VERY URGENT PRIORITY. THE NEXT ITEM IS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY LARGE PIECE OF LAND THAT'S NOT ALL BEING UTILIZED NOW.
IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE PIECES OF IT COULD BE SOLD OFF, OR IS IT AN ALL OR NOTHING? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND ACTUALLY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH PATRICK.
APPROVAL FROM THE FAA. HOW WE MIGHT HAVE THAT AIRPORT DESIGNATED.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE IT'D BE BETTER SUITED FOR THAT, I THINK IT'D BE MORE HELPFUL.
AND WE'D HAVE ALL THE RESOURCES HERE TO ANSWER THOSE DEEP DIVE TYPE QUESTIONS ON THE AIRPORT WHEN PENSION WAS A FRONT AND CENTER DISCUSSION. I'VE HAD SOME BRIEFINGS ABOUT WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH SELLING AIRPORTS SINCE WE HAVE THREE.
AND SO I RECOGNIZE THAT. BUT THE QUESTION I REALLY WANT TO GET AT IS TO MAKE SURE IT ISN'T AN ALL OR NOTHING DISCUSSION, AND THAT PERHAPS THERE'S LAND THAT COULD BE CARVED OFF AND SOLD, THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS MAY BE INTERESTED, WE MAY BE INTERESTED IN. THERE'S JUST IT'S VERY LARGE FOR WHAT'S THERE TODAY.
NOW IT COULD BE YOU COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, THE ONLY WAY TO PRIVATIZE IT WOULD BE TO SELL THE ENTIRE THING, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO A BUYER, RIGHT, WOULD BE TO DEVELOP THE REST OF THE SITE.
SO I JUST I JUST THINK THAT'S A REALLY KEY ITEM.
AND YES, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME HURDLES, BUT BECAUSE WE OWN 100% OF IT AND IT'S A SMALL ONE, IT IS ACTUALLY MUCH MORE FEASIBLE THAN THE OTHER TWO.
MEANING HERE'S ALL THE REGS AND REGULATIONS TO OUR UNDERSTANDING.
HERE'S THE GUARDRAILS THAT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW.
HERE'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE, AS YOU MENTIONED, ALL OR NONE OR PORTIONS, AND THEN ALL THOSE STEPS AND ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE WE STAY IN COMPLIANCE, DON'T LOSE ANY FEDERAL FUNDING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE WORKING ON.
AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THOSE EARLY CONVERSATIONS THERE.
AND AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO COME BACK.
IT MAY BE PATRICK MAY BE MORE THE LEAD AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME OTHER FORGIVE ME, I'LL SAY THIS. THEY HAVE SOME DEALS ON THE TABLE OR THINGS THAT ARE ALWAYS OF INTEREST THAT PEOPLE BRING AT THE AIRPORT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO THERE AS WELL.
SO FOR THE CENTRAL SERVICE CENTER, CAN YOU TELL US THE ACREAGE ON THAT? THIS IS SLIDE 16. I BELIEVE IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, WHILE SHE'S LOOKING FOR IT,
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IT'S A LITTLE OVER 20 ACRES. OKAY. SO, THE RESIDENT EXPERT NEXT TO ME SAYS 22.3 I THINK.SO. BULL'S EYE. WE'LL GIVE HIM POINTS FOR KNOWING THAT.
THIS IS PRIME, PRIME REAL ESTATE. SO, I HOPE THAT WE WILL DO SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT WITH MOVING OUR CITY SERVICE CENTER SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT REALLY MAKES THE BEST USE OF THAT LAND.
BUT THEN THE NEXT PAGE BECOMES CADILLAC HEIGHTS, WHICH HERE WE GO AGAIN TALKING ABOUT THAT PROPERTY.
AND SO, TO COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN'S POINT, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE A POLICE ACADEMY.
NOW SEEMS TO BE OUR OWN SERVICE CENTER IS OF INTEREST.
I AND HOW MANY ACRES IS THIS ONE? APPROXIMATELY 70 ACRES.
70. SO I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO PUT THAT THERE, NOT ONLY WOULD WE HAVE OUR SERVICE CENTER, BUT WE WOULD HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF AND I MEAN A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THESE PROPERTIES EVERYWHERE.
AND YOU TRULY HAVE THAT CAMPUS ABILITY FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO, FIRST OF ALL, COME TO WORK.
I'M JUST GOING TO LET THAT HANG OUT THERE FOR A SECOND, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY EMPTY IN THIS BUILDING.
NUMBER TWO, FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO WORK TOGETHER.
SO WE VERY OFTEN HAVE STAFF THAT WANT TO TOUT THAT THEY'RE COLLABORATING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO ONLY DO THAT BY TEAMS. AND THE BUILDING OF TRUST BY INTERACTING IN PERSON IS NECESSARY, ESPECIALLY AS WE SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF NEW LEADERS IN THE IN THIS ORGANIZATION.
SO THAT'S THAT ITEM. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN, IF I MAY HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FROM EARLIER, WHICH YOU JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT, I NOW HAVE THE ACTUAL PROPOSITION LANGUAGE.
SO IT WAS 2006, PROPOSITION 1020 $2.55 MILLION FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FOR THE PURPOSE OF ACQUIRING LAND IN THE AREA KNOWN AS CADILLAC HEIGHTS, FOR THE FUTURE LOCATION OF A POLICE ACADEMY RELATED FACILITY AND OR CITY SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES. SO THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSITION LANGUAGE THAT VOTERS APPROVED IN 2006.
THANK YOU. JUST ONE. I HAD IT NOW, SO. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU GETTING IT SO QUICKLY, I REALLY DO.
AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, I DON'T USUALLY LOVE THOSE KINDS OF DEALS. BUT IN THIS CASE, I ABSOLUTELY THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE CONSULTANTS TO HELP US BECAUSE WE ARE OUT OF OUR LEAGUE. AND WE ARE MAKING SOME REALLY TERRIBLE REAL ESTATE MISTAKES.
WE HAD A VERY TROUBLING REPORT IN HOUSING THIS MORNING AND WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO THIS, SO I WILL SUPPORT HIRING CONSULTANTS FOR THIS ONE WHEN WE GET TO THAT.
THANK YOU. CHAIR, I HAVE ONE MORE THING. THE LAST ITEM WAS YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK IN THE OAK CLIFF MUNICIPAL CENTER AND FINDING A PLACE FOR THEM.
AND ONE OF THE PROPERTIES WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IS ON STEMMONS.
AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO POINT THAT OUT THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO START HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
SO IN THIS AREA WE WILL THERE BE ANY RESIDENTIAL IN THE IS IT 77 ACRES YOU SAID? IT'S APPROXIMATELY 70. 70 ACRES. WHERE WOULD THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF THIS BE? IN OTHER WORDS, I DON'T PUT A SERVICE CENTER NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE YOU GET, LIKE, THE BON-TON FACTOR, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO THERE AND WE'RE WALLED OFF AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT NEEDS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO BON-TON, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE THE THAT SERVICE CENTER IS THERE'S A WALL THERE.
AND I GUESS IT'S ALL IN HOW YOU DEVELOP IT, HOW YOU CREATE PODS, HOW YOU MAKE IT FEEL NOT SO ISOLATED AND INSULATED THAT IT BECOMES PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT I'M CURIOUS, HOW MANY, LIKE ARE WE TAKING? WHERE WOULD THE RESIDENTIAL BE? IS IT ALL GONE? IS IT SOMEWHAT GONE? SO THERE IS TWO REMAINING PHASES THAT WE ARE NEEDING TO ACQUIRE PROPERTIES.
IN PHASE TWO, THERE IS A TOTAL OF TEN IMPROVED PROPERTIES IN PHASE TWO.
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AND THEN OUR PHASE THREE. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF SEVEN IMPROVED PROPERTIES.SO 17 IN TOTAL. CORRECT. AND THERE WILL BE NO RESIDENTS IN THIS 70 ACRES.
IS THAT CORRECT? PART OF IT IS I KNOW PART OF IT IS.
YEAH. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FORGIVE ME. I'M NOT THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT THERE, BUT WE CAN GET YOU SOME FURTHER DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE STATUS OF IT IS RELATED TO THE FLOODPLAIN. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS THE KEY PART OF THAT WAS TO RELOCATE THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE IN THE FLOODPLAIN ALONG FOR THE TRINITY RIVER FOR THIS. BUT AND SO MY WHOLE THING IS MOVING IT OUT OF DEEP ELLUM AND PUTTING IT IN A SERVICE CENTER AREA.
SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA, BUT WE DO NOT LET ZONING THEN CREEP IN TO CREATE RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS CONFLICTING DYNAMIC HAPPENING BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, A RESIDENT, FOLKS THAT ARE LIVING THERE, AND THEN THE WORKING, LIKE WITH OUR TRUCKS COMING THROUGH OUR, YOU KNOW, WITH IT BEING A VERY HEAVY CENTRIC WORKER TYPE FACILITY.
SO, I THINK IF WE GO IN WITH A KIND OF A CORPORATE CAMPUS TYPE CULTURE THAT'S WELCOMING, NO MATTER WHAT THE ADJACENT OR AS WELCOMING AS WHAT WE DO CAN BE, THAT WE CAN THEN AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THERE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CONCEPT THAT WE WOULD GO IN AND.
NOT ALLOW A OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTIAL TO COME IN.
YOU SEE LIKE THE FLORAL FARMS INCIDENTS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE THE LAND PLUS THE LAND, THE SANITATION.
THEN YOU HAVE INDUSTRIAL AND THEN WE ALLOWED INDIVIDUALS TO BUILD THERE.
WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT IT IS AND GO WITH IT AS A STRATEGIC DECISION.
OKAY. AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT NEEDS TO THAT WE JUST DON'T NEED IT NEEDS TO BE IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OR WHATEVER IT IS AND NOT A MIXTURE UNLESS THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE IT A MIXED INCOME, MIXED COMMUNITY, MIXED USE.
BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND THAT WAY. NO, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE LATTER.
IT DOES NOT. OKAY, SO THAT WAS MY THING ON THAT.
BUT IT SEEMS TO ME YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF A LOT OF PROJECTS, A LOT OF REAL ESTATE.
AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE OF A STRATEGIC ONE IS HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PRIORITIZE? CATEGORIZE? WHAT IS IT? MAYBE YOU'RE NOT THERE, MAYBE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR US TO GIVE YOU THAT.
AND I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE PERSON. MY SUGGESTION IS TO HIRE SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP YOU THROUGH THAT, BECAUSE I'M NOT IT. AND I CAN GRADE YOUR PAPER, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO HELP WRITE IT BECAUSE I.
SO, I'M JUST CURIOUS ON WHAT IS THE PLAN OF EXECUTION? YOU KNOW, THE PLAN OF PLANNING, UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF REAL ESTATE THAT'S STILL NOT EVEN ON HERE.
RIGHT, THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.
SO OUR INVENTORY THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE INVENTORY.
THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES, A LOT OF OUR FOCUS.
WE'VE ADDED SOME THINGS LIKE CADILLAC HEIGHTS THAT WERE NOT ON THE ORIGINAL LIST.
WE'VE TAKEN A FEW THINGS OFF. OUR FOCUS HAD BEEN THERE WAS AN ADVERTISEMENT.
ONE, WHICH WAS MOBILIZE OURSELVES IN SUCH A WAY ON WHAT DO WE DO TO TAKE THIS ON? THE STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN IS VERY IMPORTANT THERE.
SO I WANT TO WORK IN PARALLEL BECAUSE OTHERWISE WHAT WE COULD BE SAYING AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS, SO PLEASE DON'T TAKE A MISCUE FROM ME, IS THAT WE COULD JUST WAIT UNTIL WE GOT A STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN AND THE STAFF DOES NOTHING.
RIGHT. OR WE CAN DO SOME THINGS IN PARALLEL THAT ARE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE BELIEVE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE, EVEN IF YOU HIRED A CONSULTANT TOMORROW. IN FACT, THE CONSULTANT IS GOING TO COME IN AND SAY, GIVE ME AS MUCH DATA, GIVE ME AS MUCH DUE DILIGENCE, GIVE ME AS MUCH INFORMATION THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE ON THESE PROPERTIES, WHO'S BEEN WORKING THEM? AND INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM LITTLE TO NOTHING, WE WOULD WANT TO PROVIDE AS MUCH SUPPORT SO THAT EVEN THEIR WORK CAN SPEED AND ACCELERATE VERSUS THEM HAVING TO COME BACK TO SQUARE ONE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO MUCH.
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AND SO AS MUCH AS I'M TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S SOME LOW HANGING FRUIT.THE CITY MANAGER HAS ALREADY GIVEN US DIRECTION.
IF OUR DATA CENTER DOESN'T MOVE INTO BELLEVUE, WHAT IS THE PLAN? AND WHEN ITS IS ALREADY WORKING ON THAT PLAN THAT WOULD CO-LOCATE OR RELOCATE OUR DATA CENTER ELSEWHERE.
AND SO THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A FORK IN THE ROAD.
ITS IS ALREADY PREPARING FOR THAT. THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF THEM GOING INTO BELLEVUE, AND THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF THEM GOING ELSEWHERE.
WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO WAS POTENTIALLY HAVE THIS ASSET THAT WE CAME ON HERE JUST RECENTLY, BACK IN OCTOBER, TO BECOME THE OWNER OF, AND THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT THE POTENTIAL TOTAL VALUE MIGHT BE, WHETHER OR NOT IT MADE THE MOST SENSE FOR US TO CONTINUE TO POTENTIALLY OPERATE THE BUILDING AS A DATA CENTER.
A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE THINGS THAT WERE NOT WITHIN OUR NORMAL SCOPE OF WHAT STAFF WOULD DO, ANY MORE THAN WE WOULD WANT TO USE A BUILDING THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT VIEW AS A DATA CENTER, AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
DO YOU LEASE IT? DO YOU SELL IT? WHAT ARE YOU AND WHO DO YOU ENGAGE WITH? WHERE DOES THE EDC FALL INTO THIS? YES, I THINK THAT IS WHERE YOU NEED TO FIND THAT REAL ESTATE EXPERTISE TO HELP WITH, BECAUSE IT'S ALSO LAND USE PLANNING AND TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING.
SO THERE'S A LOT MORE VARIABLES HAPPENING. BUT THE ONES THAT ARE EASY THAT YOU KNOW THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, THOSE ARE THE ONES YOU CAN TACKLE NOW. YES, MA'AM.
RIGHT. IT'S JUST HOW WHAT'S THE PLAN OF EXECUTION.
AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED IN THE SLIDE DECK ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SLIDE 17 OR 18.
AND I THINK THE EDC IS A STAKEHOLDER AND PARTNER IN THIS.
I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THEY'RE THE ONES TO LEAD IT.
I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OVERALL VISION AND THE OVERALL PLAN FOR WHAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE LOOKING, WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO.
BUT THEY ARE A PARTNER AND A STRATEGIC PARTNER AND THEY SHOULD BE IN A STAKEHOLDER.
THEY SHOULD BE AT THE TABLE. HAND IN GLOVE WITH US.
BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S US WHO SHOULD BE THE ONE THAT ENGAGES ALL OF THESE LONG TERM DISCUSSIONS.
AGREED. OKAY. THANK YOU. GREAT COMMENTS. COLLEAGUES.
COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS, ARE YOU DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS ONE? I KNOW SHE WAS PRESENT FOR A PART OF IT. ALL RIGHT.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE COMMENTS I WANT TO GO THROUGH HERE.
A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. ON THE BULLINGTON ITEM, HOW ARE NEGOTIATIONS GOING RIGHT NOW? AND THE AND THEN THE TURNOVER OF THAT MANAGEMENT TO THANKSGIVING SQUARE.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING ON A REGULAR BASIS.
ALL OF OUR MEETINGS HAVE BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE AND CORDIAL, ALL WORKING TOWARDS THE KIND OF THE VISION AND GOAL THAT THAT YOU THE COUNCIL HAS SHARED WITH US. I THINK THAT THINGS ARE PROGRESSING AS WE HAD PLANNED, AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT THAT WON'T DERAIL THAT.
FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD AND HEARD WAS THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THE CITY NECESSARILY WANTS TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF, AND THAT THE PEDESTRIAN WAY HAS KIND OF FALLEN OUT OF FAVOR AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THE TUNNEL SYSTEM, UNDERGROUND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT WE HEARD FROM YOU. AND SO, WE'VE STYLED OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE THANKSGIVING FOUNDATION IN THAT MANNER, AND THEY'VE HEARD US AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS ALONG THE WAY.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WORKING ON AND ASHLEY CAN KIND OF POTENTIALLY GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, IF I MESSED UP HERE ALONG THE WAY, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A BROKER THAT AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED IN THE BRIEFING EARLIER, THAT'S KIND OF TRYING TO GIVE US SOME APPRAISALS ON HOW WE MIGHT MONETIZE THE TERMINAL AS A VERY UNIQUE ASSET AND HOW WE MIGHT LEVERAGE THE MONETIZATION OF THAT ASSET TO SUPPORT A LARGER, BETTER LONG TERM AGREEMENT THAT IS A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH PARTIES.
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I SAW THE NOTE ON THERE ABOUT PUTTING OAK CLIFF CULTURAL CENTER IN THERE, AND I THINK THAT WAS A DECIDED AS A NO GO.I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO CONTINUING TALKING ABOUT THAT.
YOU KNOW, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF CONSOLIDATING EFFORTS.
BUT I THINK THAT WAS WIDELY DISMISSED BY THE ARTS COMMUNITY.
I SEE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BACK IN THE QUEUE NOW.
DO WE HAVE AN UPDATE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT PUBLICLY ON THE HUTCHINS PROPERTY? I'D HAVE TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE RESPOND ON THAT ONE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT. WE ARE NOT UNDER CONTRACT, THOUGH, RIGHT? WE CAN SURELY SAY THAT PUBLICLY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE ARE NOT.
YES. OKAY. GOT IT. YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH WHAT CHAIR MENDELSOHN WAS ASKING FOR HERE.
THAT AND CHAIR MORENO REMINDED ME AT ONE POINT WE ASKED FOR WHAT WAS THE ZONING THAT WAS PRESENT ON ALL THESE PROPERTIES, AND WE PREVIOUSLY ASKED FOR THE ACREAGE. I LIKE THE REQUEST FOR HOW MUCH THE CITY HAS PUT INTO THE PROPERTY AS WELL, SO WE KNOW IF WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
ALL RIGHT. DO WE NEED TO MAKE UP, YOU KNOW, $1 MILLION, $2 MILLION AND WHAT WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED IN IT? I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE DOING THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT JUST THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT IS UNUSED.
IT'S JUST ASTOUNDING TO ME, YOU KNOW, 24 ACRES AT A BIG, YOU KNOW, CADILLAC HEIGHTS, 70 ACRES.
I MEAN, WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY NEEDS IN THE CITY AND THEY'RE UNMET AT THIS POINT, AND WE HAVE STREETS THAT NEED TO BE PAVED, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THOSE. WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY OUR PENSION AND OUR POLICE AND FIRE.
WE'VE JUST GOT TO ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A PLAN TO ACTIVATE IT.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE NEW TO THE ROLE THAT YOU'RE UP THERE, SO I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR AT THIS POINT, BUT WE WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION HERE. AND YOU'VE HEARD MY COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN JUST MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM L AND TALK ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN MENTIONING HERE.
WHAT IS YOUR VISION FOR THAT MR. GIBSON? THANK YOU FOR THAT CHAIR, WEST.
IT'S A GOOD LEAD IN FROM THIS BRIEFING STRAIGHT TO THAT MEMO.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO THIS THIS MEMORANDUM IS A PART OF A LARGER VISION, I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY, RATHER THAN PROVIDING YOU MAYBE A 20 PAGE MEMORANDUM THAT MIGHT LOOK MORE LIKE A SET OF SPECIFICATIONS, WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BRIEFED, BUT WE HIT A LOT OF THE HIGH LEVEL TOPICS.
MS. BLACKMON, I THINK, SAID IT BEST. WE NEED HELP.
AND I HOPE THIS MEMO SAYS THAT AS MUCH AS WE UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL STRUCTURE THAT WE NEED, AS MUCH AS WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY SHOULD LEAD THAT RIGHT.
WE NEED A LITANY OF ADVISERS HELPING US MAKE THE MOST CRITICAL DECISIONS, HELPING US DO THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, HELPING US DETERMINE, IN EACH CASE, THE ENTIRE INVENTORY WHAT'S THE HIGHEST, BEST USE, AND CATEGORIZING OUR PROPERTY AND MANAGING IT IN SUCH A WAY WHERE THOSE THINGS BECOME A PART OF THE FABRIC OF WHAT WE DO AND MAKE IT, MAKES IT SEAMLESS.
I WOULD HOPE IN THE SHORT TERM THAT THIS INVENTORY THAT WE HAVE WOULD SHRINK RIGHT, TO INCLUDE MAYBE FEWER BUILDINGS TO, TO MAINTAIN. RIGHT. AS WE TRY TO ECONOMIZE THAT, FEWER PARCELS TO KEEP MOWED AND, TO JUST TO DEAL WITH FROM COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT, YOU NAME IT, TO PUT US IN A POSITION TO BRING OUR COST DOWN, PUT OUR PROPERTY BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT I COULD, YOU KNOW, SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT.
BUT THAT'S THE FRUITS OF WHAT AN APPROACH LIKE THIS WE HOPE WILL GET US.
I'VE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY WITH OUR CFO, MR. IRELAND. WE'VE WRESTLED BACK AND FORTH ABOUT HOW WE EXACTLY ARE GOING TO FUND THIS.
AND SO HE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, STILL TALKING TO ME.
SO I'M ASSUMING HE'S GOING TO HELP ME WITH THAT END OF IT.
BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON NOW.
WE'VE STARTED THE WORK ON THE SPECIFICATIONS.
WE MIGHT NEED MORE THAN ONE CONSULTANT OR A PRIME, SO TO SPEAK, THAT MAYBE THEY SUB IT OUT.
YEAH, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. I THINK THE SOONER THE BETTER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK LINDA'S FANTASTIC. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
I WOULD CAUTION STAFF TO PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BASKET.
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HOUSING, HOMELESSNESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEEDS.SO IT NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN BY THE CITY WITH CONSULTANT, I THINK, TO LEAD US THERE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY BY THE EDC, ALTHOUGH WE SHOULD TAKE THEIR ADVICE. YOU KNOW, CHAIR WEST, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ASHLEY'S KIND OF DRILLED INTO MY HEAD THAT THERE ARE SOME EXISTING PROCESSES, THE ACTUAL SURPLUS PROCESS.
AND SHE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT PROCESS REAL BRIEFLY.
SURE. SO WHEN THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT MAY COME ABOUT THAT COULD BE DISPOSED OF, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS OUR EXTERNAL DEPARTMENTS OR OUR ENTITIES, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, TXDOT, DISD, THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT EVERYBODY IS KEPT IN THE LOOP TO SAY WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS POSSIBLY HAS AVAILABLE, AND WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY, OF COURSE, TO RESPOND BEFORE WE DO PUT IT OUT FOR PUBLIC NOTICE.
THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, ANYTHING ON ITEM L? OH, YEAH.
WE JUST JUMPED TO ITEM L, BUT I JUST HAD IT ON MY THING.
SO, THE ANSWER IS YES. WE SHOULD DO THIS. THANK YOU.
THIS IS A LOT OF STUFF. IT'S FOUR PAGES. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A MEMO, I'M JUST SAYING.
BUT IT'S GOOD INFORMATION. AND IT'S ACTUALLY, I MEAN YOU KNOW, IT'S A STARTING POINT, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT, COLLEAGUES, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MOVING ON DOWN THE MEMO.
WE'LL JUST GO STRAIGHT DOWN AT THIS POINT AND CHIME IN IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING.
COLLEAGUES ITEM D IS A MONTHLY BUDGET ACCOUNTABILITY REPORT.
CHAIR MENDELSOHN. OKAY, SO ON PAGE 19 OF THIS.
THIS IS THE BUDGET TRACKER. AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS HAS BECOME ESSENTIALLY UTTERLY USELESS.
AND IF WE DON'T CHANGE WHAT THESE ITEMS ARE, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE WASTING THE TIME.
WHAT DO YOU WANT? WELL, CHAIR WEST, YOU AND I STARTED WORKING ON THIS BACK IN 2019, SO I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO COME BACK AND DO IT AGAIN. SO, THE REASON WHY IT'S UTTERLY USELESS IS YOU'LL SEE EVERY SINGLE ITEM IS DOING JUST FINE, BECAUSE THEY'RE WORDED IN A WAY THAT ANYBODY COULD MEET, AND THEY'RE NOT PARTICULARLY MEANINGFUL MEASUREMENTS FOR THE CITY.
AND MY RECOLLECTION IS THERE'S AND I THINK I HAVE THIS LIST OF THE MORE THAN 1000 MEASUREMENTS THAT THE CITY ALREADY COLLECTS, NO EXTRA WORK, AND SOME OF THOSE WOULD BE MEANINGFUL TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, WOULD BE MEANINGFUL TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT I CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THE ONES THAT WE HAVE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE MEANINGFUL.
AND SO IT WOULD START WITH THE SAME NUMBER. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING IN A LOT OF OTHER AREAS, AND MAYBE THEY'RE JUST NOT DONE MONTHLY. MAYBE WE JUST DO THEM QUARTERLY.
BUT LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SEE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT WITHOUT ADDING EXTRA WORK.
BUT THIS HAS I MEAN, LIKE I READ THROUGH IT, I'M LIKE, THIS TELLS YOU NOTHING.
AND IT'S A LOT TO READ. IT'S IN TO PRODUCE. SO ANYHOW, I'M JUST GOING TO ADD THAT THE NEXT THING I WAS GOING TO ASK IS PAGE EIGHT. AND THEN PAGE 11. PAGE 11 HAS THE EXCEPTION REPORT FOR THESE TWO ITEMS AND OR THE VARIANCES.
SO WHAT THE VARIANCE SAYS IS THAT, WELL, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION'S IMPACTING IT.
BUT WE WERE TOLD BEFORE THAT THAT WAS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE BUDGET.
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RIGHT? SO THE REVENUE ISN'T COLLECTED. SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE MASTER PLAN AND START TO ADJUST FOR SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT WILL BE IN THE CONVENTION CENTER BASED ON WHETHER THEY FULLY SIGNED A CONTRACT OR NOT, THEY HAVE AN OPTION BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULES THAT WE HAVE AT AS DRAFTS RIGHT NOW, WHETHER TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THEIR EVENTS OR CONFERENCE OR NOT TO.
SO YOU MAY SEE SOME GIVE AND TAKE IN THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE YEAR.
AND THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL IN THE INDUSTRY. OKAY.
SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT THE SANITATION SERVICES.
SO THEY'RE EXPECTED TO BE 1.5 MILLION OVER BUDGET.
AND THE REASON THEY'RE SAYING IS AN INCREASED NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS.
BUT IF WE DO COST RECOVERY I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WOULD NOT HAVE NETTED OUT.
THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THAT'S ALL MY ITEMS FOR THIS.
THANK YOU. IF I MAY, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, CHAIR WEST REGARDING THE COMMENT ABOUT THE METRICS.
WE AT THIS TIME HAVE DROPPED THE DALLAS 365 FROM THE REPORT.
I'M SURE YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT IN ADDITION TO THE FINANCIALS, IN ADDITION TO THE ECONOMIC INDICATORS, WE DID HAVE A DALLAS 365, WHICH WAS METRICS. AND THEN WE'VE HAD THE INITIATIVE TRACKER, WHICH ARE SOME THINGS THAT WERE ADDED IN THIS MOST RECENT BUDGET AND GIVING A NARRATIVE OF OUR PROGRESS TOWARDS ACCOMPLISHING THOSE INITIATIVES.
SO WE'VE DROPPED THE DALLAS 365. WE'VE DROPPED THE METRICS FROM THE REPORT AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY MANAGER, UNTIL UNDER HER LEADERSHIP, WE DEVELOP A NEW SYSTEM TO TAKE THE PLACE OF DALLAS.
365 AND I HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE ADDING SOMETHING BACK AT SOME POINT THAT GETS TO THE METRICS THAT YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THAT HAS BEEN DROPPED OUT OF THE REPORT, I BELIEVE, SINCE THE FIRST OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
OKAY. THAT'S CONCERNING YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE MONITORING THIS WHOLE COMMITTEE IS ABOUT MONITORING GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE. SO, I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD, LIKE THIS SHOULD BE A HIGHLIGHT FOR US ON GETTING THESE METRICS BACK IN THERE.
AND SO WE WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THIS POINT TO TRY TO REFINE THAT AND IMPROVE IT BEFORE WE INCORPORATE IT BACK INTO THE REPORT. I'M ACTUALLY PULLED UP AN EMAIL EXCHANGE THAT WE HAD LAST SUMMER WHEN WE WERE PREPARING FOR THE BUDGET.
AND I THINK CHAIR MENDELSOHN HAD SUBMITTED SOME SUGGESTED 365 MEASURES.
I KNOW, I CERTAINLY DID, AND I HAD A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUES CHIME IN AS WELL.
AND STAFF'S RESPONSE TO THAT WAS THAT IT WASN'T THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO INCLUDE THEM IN THE BUDGET.
IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT TIME. SO YOU KNOW WHAT TO AVOID THE COMMITTEE GETTING AGGRESSIVE.
LIKE WHEN IS STAFF GOING TO ACTUALLY PUT THE METRICS OUT THERE? SO WE'RE WORKING WITH MISS TOLBERT ON REDEFINING WHAT THAT IS, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A TIMELINE LATER ABOUT THAT.
BUT IT IS OUR INTENT TO INCORPORATE METRICS BACK INTO THE REPORT.
BUT AT THIS POINT WE HAVE NOT DONE SO. I GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON TIMELINE BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.
OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT, COLLEAGUES. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE TECHNOLOGY ACCOUNTABILITY REPORT.
NEXT ITEM. GO AHEAD. OH. THANK YOU.
SO, IS IT YOU, DONZELL? OKAY. I'M SORRY, MISS TANISHA DORSEY.
YEAH. YOU GOT IT ALL UNDER CONTROL. YOU'RE GONNA GET BETTER THAN ME.
I CAN PROMISE YOU, MISS TANISHA DORSEY. SHE'S THE INTERIM CEO.
HI. HOW ARE YOU? OKAY, WELL I'LL BE GENTLE. OKAY.
SO ON PAGE FIVE IT TALKS ABOUT SIX PROJECTS THAT WERE CANCELED.
I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD TELL US ABOUT THAT. YES, MA'AM, I CAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO START FIRST WITH HOW WE ACTUALLY CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF OPEN PROJECTS.
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HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST MONTH, WE'VE GONE BACK AND WORKED WITH OUR BUSINESS DEPARTMENTS TO VALIDATE THOSE PROJECTS.AND WE HAD SIX DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE CANCELED.
GREAT, GREAT ANSWER. OKAY. SO THE NEXT ONE IS ON THAT SAME PAGE.
ON PAGE FIVE, YOU'VE GOT THE PIE CHART BY FOCUS AREA.
I WOULD JUST CHALLENGE EVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, LET ALONE THE PUBLIC, IS NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY OUR FOCUS AREAS AND WHAT DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS. SO MAYBE SAFE IS THE MOST UNDERSTANDABLE RIGHT TO BE THE PUBLIC SAFETY ONES.
BUT EVEN THAT INCLUDES LIKE COURTS AND OTHER THINGS.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS ENTIRE PAGE, SINCE IT HAS CHANGED FROM DEPARTMENT TO FOCUS AREA, HAS BEEN IT LIKE, I CAN'T EVEN READ IT NOW. LIKE IT.
IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING MEANINGFUL AS OPPOSED TO WHEN YOU TURN TO PAGE SIX AND YOU HAVE THE IT PROJECTS AND BUDGETED COSTS BY DEPARTMENT, AT LEAST THAT BAR GRAPH, YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, I CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PARKS, I CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, HERE AND THERE. BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SWITCH THAT BACK TO DEPARTMENTS.
AND MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE. MAYBE EVERYONE HAS IT MEMORIZED.
WHICH DEPARTMENTS ARE IN EACH OF THESE FOCUS AREAS? I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE NAMES OF ALL THE FOCUS AREAS.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY FOR ME, THIS PAGE HAS NOT EVOLVED INTO A USEFUL BIT OF INFORMATION.
AND THEN NUMBER PROJECT NUMBER TEN. SO THIS WOULD BE ON PAGE NINE.
THIS IS THE DWU BILLING ITEM. CAN YOU GIVE US A STATUS UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT? YEAH. WELL THANK YOU FOR YOUR ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, NO I LIKE THE CHART. I JUST LIKE THE CHART TO BE BY DEPARTMENT AND NOT BY FOCUS AREA.
THANK YOU FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION. AND I CAN.
YES. OKAY. AND I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT PROJECT.
BUT I WILL ALSO ASK IF DIRECTOR SARAH STANDIFER MIGHT BACK ME UP ON ANYTHING RELATED TO THE WATER UTILITY BUILDING PROJECT. SO THIS PROJECT IS THE REPLACEMENT OF OUR SAP SYSTEM FOR CUSTOMER BILLING.
RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT KICKOFFS FOR VALIDATING REQUIREMENTS AGAINST THE ACTUAL SYSTEM FUNCTIONALITY, AND THOSE THINGS ARE GOING WELL.
SO AT THIS POINT, WE'RE STILL IN THE INITIAL STAGES OF THE PROJECT, BUT FAR ENOUGH THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY EVALUATING THE IMPLEMENTATION. WELL, I GUESS I'M JUST CONFUSED BECAUSE WE NOT THAT LONG AGO, WE'LL JUST SAY A YEAR AGO WENT THROUGH A BIG CHANGE IN THE BILLING FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT. THAT WAS PRETTY TERRIBLE.
AND SO WAS THAT NOT THIS PROJECT? THAT WAS THE FIRST PHASE OF THE TRANSITION FOR WATER UTILITIES.
THAT WAS THE PAYMENTUS PROJECT, WHICH WAS THE PAYMENT PORTAL.
THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED, AND NOW THIS IS THE ACTUAL TRANSITION FROM THE CUSTOMER INFORMATION BILLING SYSTEM TO A NEW SYSTEM AND PLATFORM, AND YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE UNTIL JULY OF 28.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE PHASES, AND I CAN PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION ON THOSE PHASES AND THE STATUS OF EACH.
OKAY. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO ITEM F. I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE THIS IS MAINLY FOR THE QUESTIONS OF THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.
BUT I APPRECIATE MR. SWANN BEING AROUND HERE.
I THOUGHT THE REPORT WAS WELL DONE, AND THE AUDIT WAS VERY GOOD.
SO, I WAS JUST VERY CONCERNED. YOU KNOW, MY MILITARY BACKGROUND, IF WE HAD MISSING WEAPONS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE. AND SO HAVING A REPORT THAT COMES OUT WITH MISSING FIREARMS IS VERY CONCERNING.
SO, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT AND WHAT THE PLAN IS MOVING FORWARD.
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DAVID PUGH, CITY MARSHAL. I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT WERE CONCERNING TO ME ALSO AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS AUDIT.AND IT WAS JUST THE LACK OF DOCUMENTATION TO GOING BACKWARDS 10 TO 20 YEARS BACKWARDS TO BE ABLE TO. REALLY, TRULY AND ACCURATELY SAY WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD AND WHAT WE.
DIDN'T HAVE. WHAT WAS CLERICAL ERRORS. IT WAS ALL ON PAPER, PASSED DOWN YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
THE DEPARTMENTS CHANGED THEIR REPORTING STRUCTURE.
11. THEY WERE REPORTING OUT TO TO EBS. THEN THEY MOVED OVER TO COURTS.
SO THE AUDITORS DID THE BEST THAT THEY COULD WITH OUR OUR LACK OF DOCUMENTATION.
SO IT WAS OBSOLETE WEAPONS THAT WERE LIKE DOWN IN THE SECURITY.
YOU HAD PARTIAL WEAPONS THAT WERE JUST THROWN INTO A BOX THAT HAD BEEN PARTIALLY DISASSEMBLED.
AND SO IT WAS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO, TO TRULY GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT THEY HAD BOUGHT WEAPONS THROUGH THE FIREARMS TRAINING CENTER AT DPD.
OTHER TIMES THEY DIDN'T. THEY HAD BOUGHT THEM.
IT WAS JUST A MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT REALLY, I THINK, MADE IT DIFFICULT TO HAVE A TRUE UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SOMEBODY HAD EVEN USED THOSE OBSOLETE WEAPONS? AND REALLY, I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WAS THAT THERE WERE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT WERE IN PLACE WITH REGARDS TO THE DESTRUCTION OF WEAPONS, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT SITTING IN A SAFE OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD UNDER ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF CHANGES AND RELOCATIONS.
AND YOU KNOW, MISSING PAPERWORK. AND SO I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CONCERN TO ME IS THAT THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T PROPERLY FOLLOW THAT INSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE ABOUT DESTROYING THOSE WEAPONS WHEN THEY BECOME OBSOLETE.
GOT IT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT DETAILED ANSWER.
SO THERE'S THERE'S FIVE WEAPONS THAT ARE WE WE ARE NOT IDENTIFIED.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. AND WE AT THIS POINT THEY'VE BEEN GONE LONG ENOUGH.
YES. BECAUSE WE THE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY WERE WORKING FIREARMS OR JUST FIREARMS THAT HAD BEEN BROKEN FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, STUCK IN THE BACK OF THAT SAFE.
AND SO YES, GOING FORWARD, IT'S MORE ABOUT NOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN REPORTED JUST TO ENSURE WE DID A LOT OF CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TRACK DOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, 18 YEARS AGO.
ONE OF THOSE WEAPONS HAD BEEN USED IN AN OFFENSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE DID ALL THOSE CHECKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE THAT, NOTHING TO SHOW THAT THERE WAS ANY OTHER RECORD THROUGH THE STATE OR FEDERAL SYSTEM WITH REGARDS TO THE SERIAL NUMBERS ON THOSE WEAPONS, ONE OF THE SERIAL NUMBERS WE COULDN'T EVEN TRACK DOWN THROUGH THE MANUFACTURER THAT IT WAS EVER ACTUALLY A SERIAL NUMBER FOR A WEAPON THEY PRODUCED.
SO THAT WAS OKAY. THANK YOU. I WANT TO MOVE ON.
SO 25% OF OUR GUN LOCKERS IN THE JAIL ARE NOT USABLE.
DO WE EVER HAVE A SITUATION WHERE ALL THE GUN LOCKERS ARE FILLED OR OR IS THAT NOT REALLY A PROBLEM? BECAUSE NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE AT THE JAIL AT THE SAME TIME? YEAH, THERE'S NOT WITH THE NUMBER THAT WE DO HAVE CURRENTLY.
GOT IT. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? WHAT BUDGET DOES THAT COME OUT OF? TO REPAIR LOCKERS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST. I MEAN, THEY'RE IN TERRIBLE CONDITION.
THE ONES I SEE HERE, IT WOULD JUST COME OUT OF THE MARSHALS BUDGET.
OKAY. IS THERE A PLAN TO REPAIR THE BROKEN LOCKERS? YEAH. WE DID. WE'VE REPAIRED A GOOD PORTION OF THEM.
THEY'RE IN THE, THE OFFICE AREA OF THE MARSHAL'S UNIT.
BUT ULTIMATELY DOWN THE ROAD, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO INVEST IN NEW LOCKERS.
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WE DID ALL THE REPLACEMENTS OF ALL THE LOCKS AND EVERYTHING FOR THE ONES THAT ARE STILL FUNCTIONAL.OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU BET. ITEM G COLLEAGUES. OH.
I'M SORRY. OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH. GO AHEAD. SO YOU ACTUALLY ASKED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LOCKER ISSUE, AND I'LL JUST SAY, EVEN LIKE THE CDC IN GENERAL, IT'S IN PRETTY ROUGH SHAPE. THESE LOCKERS ARE IN TERRIBLE SHAPE, AND THERE'S NO WAY EVERY SINGLE MARSHAL THAT USES IT DOESN'T KNOW IT'S IN BAD SHAPE.
AND SO WHAT PROCEDURE DO WE HAVE IN PLACE WHERE EMPLOYEES CAN SAY, HEY, THERE'S SOMETHING IN MY DEPARTMENT THAT'S BROKEN NEEDS TO BE FIXED? BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN OUR CITY THAT ARE BROKEN AND NEED TO BE FIXED.
AND MAYBE THE EMPLOYEES KNOW, AND EITHER THEY DON'T WANT TO TELL THEIR SUPERVISOR OR THEIR SUPERVISOR SAYS, I DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR IT AND IT STAYS THERE.
BUT IF WE KNEW ABOUT IT, I THINK A GUN LOCKER WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT FIXED.
I MEAN, SO SOMEBODY WOULD DONATE THAT. THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JACK, YOU'RE HOSTING IT, MAYBE DONZELL YOU'RE HOSTING IT.
LIKE, LET THE EMPLOYEES EVEN ANONYMOUSLY TELL YOU THINGS THAT ARE BROKEN SO THAT YOU CAN SORT THROUGH AND GO, OOH, WE GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THAT ONE, RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IN OUR CITY.
AND SO I WILL SAY ALSO, I MEAN THE WHOLE REPORT, THANK YOU FOR CLEARING.
YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE ADOPTING THESE MEASURES FOR IMPROVEMENT, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT YOU START SEEING PICTURES OF THE LOCKERS LIKE THAT AND YOU GO, WHOA.
NO ONE'S PUTTING THEIR GUN IN WITHOUT KNOWING IT.
SO HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT? THIS WAS A KNOWN PROBLEM, BUT NOT EVER ACTED ON.
WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK BEFORE I GOT THERE. AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, HOW MANY LOCKERS HAD BEEN OUT OF COMMISSION FOR HOW LONG? SOME OF THEM.
AND SO YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THE GO FORWARD IS IT'S WHAT YOU SAID.
IT'S ONE OF MANY PROBLEMS WITHIN THAT FACILITY AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FIX THINGS ONE STEP AT A TIME. RIGHT NOW, I WOULD ARGUE THAT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ENOUGH GUN LOCKERS THAT ARE OPERATIONAL, WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING THAT ARE VERY CONCERNING FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK THERE. AND YOU HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IN A IN AN OLDER FACILITY LIKE THAT, THAT WAS REALLY A WAREHOUSE DESIGNED TO NOT BE A DETENTION CENTER AND MANUFACTURED INTO A DETENTION CENTER.
WELL, I WOULD WELCOME YOU TO HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY BRIEFING ITEM ON THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED AT CDC.
AND I'LL SAY THE LOCK UP IS ONE OF THEM. BEFORE YOU TRANSFER THEM INTO ONE OF THE LARGER ROOMS. SO, THIS IS THE CULTURE SHIFT I'M HOPING TO SEE WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO SAY, OH, WE HAVE A PROBLEM, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND NOT JUST KEEP PUSHING IT DOWN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? NO. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM G. QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT.
NOPE. ITEM H IS THE MONTHLY ARPA REPORT FOR THE PERIOD ENDING JANUARY 31ST, 2025.
THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S BEING REALLOCATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY, I BELIEVE.
RIGHT. OKAY. QUESTIONS? NO. I THINK WE COULD SPEND AN ENTIRE BRIEFING DAY ON WHY SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS WERE UNABLE TO USE THEIR IN THEIR FUNDINGS.
A LOT OF THE TARGETED HOME REPAIR I MEAN, YEAH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME TODAY, SO EVERYONE'S PASSING ON THAT ONE.
REPORT ON THE PROGRESS OF FAMILY GATEWAY PROPERTY REPAIRS AS OF JANUARY 2025.
I HEARD FROM ELLEN. PRETTY POSITIVE. MOSTLY POSITIVE REPORTS.
ANYTHING ELSE? NOBODY. ITEM J. I AM CURIOUS TO HAVE STAFF JUST TOUCH ON THIS.
THIS IS THE CITY HALL SPACE PLANNING PROJECT, INCLUDING SPACE ALLOCATION, DEPARTMENT SPACE NEEDS,
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AND REQUIREMENTS FOR OPTIMIZING BOTH EFFICIENCY AND PUBLIC ACCESS.YOU GIVE US WELCOME BACK GIVE US A HIGHLIGHT.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET ME. CARLINA'S COMING UP HERE.
THAT CAN MAYBE ANSWER SOME MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS.
BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK SO SHE CAN JUST KIND OF BE MY WINGMAN HERE.
SO OUR CITY MANAGER, WHO LOVES TO WALK AROUND CITY HALL AND ENGAGE STAFF SEVERAL MONTHS BACK, ASKED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT ECONOMIZING SPACE IN THIS BUILDING.
IN FACT, ONE OF HER VISIONS AT ONE POINT WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IS THERE PORTIONS OF FOLKS THAT ARE OUT OF OAK CLIFF MUNICIPAL CENTER THAT WE MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY MOVE INTO THIS BUILDING? AND SO STAFF AND FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT DID A SOLICITATION WHERE THEY WENT OUT AND THEY WORKED THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET US A SPACE PLANNER ON BOARD, AND THE INITIATION OF THAT WAS GOING TO START HERE IN THIS BUILDING AND WORK ONE FLOOR TO THE NEXT FLOOR. AND AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THINGS ARE AT THE MOMENT, WITH THE HOPES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO JUST THAT, ELIMINATE SOME OF THE LEASES THAT WE HAD. IF STAFF CAN ACTUALLY MOVE IN HERE, POTENTIALLY ECONOMIZE AN ENTIRE BUILDING, POTENTIALLY, AND DIVEST OF IT IF WE'RE ABLE TO COLLAPSE THAT.
BUT THE GREATEST THING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE UNUSED SPACE THAT WE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, IS JUST WASTED TIME AND ENERGY AND CAPEX RELATED TO TAKING CARE OF ALL THESE BUILDINGS.
WAS THERE, I GUESS, COLLEAGUES, ANYBODY VICE CHAIR, JUST REAL QUICK DO WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR ANY UPGRADES OR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE OR THAT PROBABLY BE COMING IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
THE HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? YES, MA'AM.
SO THAT THERE'S SOME FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT WILL GET US STARTED.
YOU KNOW, FUTURE YEARS, NEXT BUDGET. THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ADD INTO THE BUDGET.
IT'LL BE A ROLLING EXPENSE. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
GO AHEAD. SO, IT'S A PAGE AND A HALF. I HAD TO READ IT THREE TIMES.
IT'S A LOT OF WORDS TO BASICALLY SAY IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK OUT THE WAY WE THOUGHT IT WOULD.
RIGHT. YES, MA'AM. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW? SO IF YOU'RE MAKING REFERENCE TO NEXT STEPS HERE IN THIS BUILDING.
RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING GRESHAM SMITH TO SOUP TO NUTS IN THIS BUILDING.
HELP US ECONOMIZE SPACE AND GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS ON, FRANKLY, HOW TO SQUEEZE MORE PEOPLE INTO THIS BUILDING AND HOW TO BEST USE THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE. AND ISN'T THAT WHAT THE ORIGINAL ASK WAS? ACTUALLY, THE ORIGINAL ASK HAD MORE TO DO WITH THE FIRST FLOOR, WHICH WAS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT AT A LATER POINT, POTENTIALLY, BUT THAT HAS THEN BEEN SCALED UP TO BE A PART OF OUR LARGER PROCESS RELATED TO THE STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN.
WE OBVIOUSLY ARE VIEWING THIS AS A SPACE. PLANNING IS A COMPONENT OF THE STRATEGIC MASTER PLAN, GETTING THE HIGHEST, BEST USE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE OR WHAT WE HAVE TODAY AND WHERE WE CAN ECONOMIZE THAT SPACE.
GRESHAM SMITH IS GOING TO HELP US DO THAT. OKAY.
THANK YOU. I PIGGYBACK ON THOSE COMMENTS. I MEAN, I REMEMBER THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION REALLY STARTING WITH MAYBE TWO BUDGETS AGO, WHEN THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE WAS TRYING TO ENTER INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WAS GOING TO END UP BEING LIKE $100,000 A YEAR OR SOMETHING OR MORE AT AN OFF SITE LOCATION. AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE ALL ASKING, WHY CAN'T YOU JUST MOVE INTO ONE OF THE OFFICES HERE IN CITY HALL? AND SO WHAT I WOULD DO, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS LOOK AT PLACES WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING TO MOVE PEOPLE INTO LEASES. AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY EVEN I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT TODAY. BUT LIKE OUR SITUATIONS WHERE WE'RE LEASING SPACE AND WE'RE COSTING THE TAXPAYERS MORE MONEY AND THEN TRY TO FIT THEM INTO CITY HALL.
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A PERFECT IDEAL.
YOU KNOW, THE LITERALLY TEN OUT OF TEN WORKSTATION.
BUT IF IT'S AN EIGHT OUT OF 10 OR 9 OUT OF TEN, IT'S GOING TO SAVE US TAXPAYER MONEY.
LET'S JUST DO IT. IT'D BE NICE TO SEE SOME WIND COME OUT OF ALL THIS WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
HERE AT CITY HALL. YES, SIR. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS.
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LIKE, EMPTY. AND SO WHY CAN'T WE FILL THAT WITH PEOPLE FROM OCMOC OR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS LIKE THAT? WHY IS IT SO HARD? YES, SIR. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.YOU JUST DEFINED THE WHOLE PURPOSE. WE BROUGHT GRESHAM SMITH IN.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT ITEM K? ANYBODY? GO AHEAD.
YES, MA'AM. WE ARE PLANNING TO TAKE IT TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL MARCH 26TH.
SO, WE HAVE A MONTH. SO, ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN SPEND TIME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT IT.
THAT'S GREAT. AND WE CAN SET ITEMS J AND K TO COME BACK.
SO I THINK WE COULD FIND SOME TIME TO TALK ABOUT THOSE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM M AS IN MIKE. IT'S A WORK DAY CONTRACT.
YES. GO AHEAD. SO I'M WONDERING IF SOME INFORMATION COULD BE SHARED WITH THE COMMITTEE ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT MODULES OF WORKDAY THAT WE'VE ALREADY PURCHASED. SO, IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS AN ONGOING LICENSING AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR 4.3 MILLION. IS THAT RIGHT? A YEAR? EVERY YEAR. WELL, THIS ONE, THIS ITEM IS FOR ONE YEAR. YEAH. AND SO WE HAVE VARIOUS MODULES.
IS THIS FOR ALL MODULES? YES. IT'S FOR ALL MODULES.
LIKE EVERY MONTH WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON WORK DAY.
AND I'M NOT SEEING EFFICIENCIES BECAUSE OF WORKDAY.
I MEAN, HAVE WE LOWERED OUR STAFFING COUNT IN HR BECAUSE OF WORKDAY? HAVE WE FREED UP DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE USING SYSTEMS? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY. THIS DOESN'T EVEN INCLUDE LIKE THE INITIAL TRANSITION TO IT.
IS THERE A RUNNING TOTAL YOU CAN GIVE US OF WHAT THIS INVESTMENT HAS BEEN? YOU MIGHT NEED TO DO THIS IN A SEPARATE MEMO. I'M NOT EXPECTING YOU TO KNOW THIS. YES, MA'AM. YES. OKAY.
WE CAN COME BACK WITH. WITH THAT ASSESSMENT. YES.
OKAY. WELL, I FEEL LIKE I END UP ASKING THIS QUESTION AT AN AGENDA MEETING.
IT'S NOT REALLY THE RIGHT PLACE BECAUSE I SEE ANOTHER COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS.
AND SO I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THIS INVESTMENT'S BEEN AND THAT PERHAPS WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO US ORIGINALLY, WE WERE TOLD IT WOULD BE ONE THING, AND WE KEEP MAKING IT BIGGER AND BIGGER, AND NOW IT'S THIS GIANT BEHEMOTH PART OF OUR BUDGET.
SO, I'D JUST LIKE TO GET AN OVERALL PICTURE OF ALL OF THE ELEMENTS AND WHAT WE'VE SPENT PREVIOUSLY TO ADOPT IT AND IMPLEMENT IT, AND THEN NOW WHAT? WE'RE PAYING TO MAINTAIN IT.
YES, MA'AM. I THINK WE CAN COLLABORATE AND POTENTIALLY END UP WITH A WORK DAY BRIEFING.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. YES, MA'AM. IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE A BRIEFING.
I MEAN, I'M LOOKING FOR A MEMO. I'M LOOKING FOR THE NUMBERS. YEAH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL ASK FOR ITEM N AS IN NOVEMBER TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH.
ITEM O HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. ANYBODY? OKAY. THE BULLINGTON TRUCK TERMINAL AND THANKSGIVING SQUARE.
YES, SIR. ON MARCH 26TH, WE'LL BRING AN ITEM TO COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION THAT RESTORES THE $460,000 BACK TO FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT.
UNLESS THE COUNCIL HAS A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
UNDERSTOOD. I WOULD JUST ANTICIPATE QUESTIONS AS WE GET CLOSER, LIKE YOU HAD EARLIER TODAY ON WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO TO RENEGOTIATE OUR CONTRACT? COLLEAGUES? NO. ITEM Q OR ITEM R? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT IS 3:02 P.M.
AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.