[2. 25-92A Authorize the following revisions to the Financial Management Performance Criteria to: (1) add language that establishes an Employee Benefit Reserve in Unassigned Fund Balance; (2) clarify the pension benefit adjustment approval process for Employees Retirement Fund and Dallas Police and Fire Pension System; (3) change the comparison of the disabled and over 65 property tax exemption to the consumer price index to use the median residential market value instead of the average residential market value; and (4) exclude certificate of obligation debt repaid by Enterprise Funds or other funds with an existing dedicated rate structure from the limit on total certificate of obligation debt; and (5) add language that all retirement systems will be financed in a manner to systematically fund liabilities - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA TO ONE.

ADD LANGUAGE THAT ESTABLISHES AN EMPLOYEE BENEFIT RESERVE IN UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE TO CLARIFY THE PENSION BENEFIT ADJUSTMENT APPROVAL PROCESS FOR

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EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT FUND AND DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM.

THREE CHANGE THE COMPARISON OF THE DISABLED AND OVER 65 PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION TO THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX TO USE THE MEDIAN RESIDENTIAL MARKET VALUE INSTEAD OF THE AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL MARKET VALUE.

FOUR EXCLUDE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION DEBT REPAID BY ENTERPRISE FUNDS OR OTHER FUNDS WITH AN EXISTING DEDICATED RATE STRUCTURE FROM THE LIMIT ON TOTAL CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION DEBT AND FIVE AT LANGUAGE THAT ALL RETIREMENT SYSTEMS WILL BE FINANCED IN A MANNER TO SYSTEMATICALLY FUND LIABILITIES.

THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON AND COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN, WAS THERE A MOTION? YES, MAYOR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

THE ANNUAL REVIEWS IN FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA NUMBER 15 MUST BE PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL BY THE PENSION FUNDS IN OCTOBER.

IS IT IS THERE A DATE IN OCTOBER? JUST A MONTH.

JUST A MONTH OR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2ND? JUST A BRIEF COMMENT.

IT'S IT'S IN THE QUESTIONS IN THE ONE. I HAVE A BRIEF COMMENT.

GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO I WAS TESTIFYING IN AUSTIN WHEN THIS COMMITTEE MEETING OCCURRED.

SO I WANT TO THANK CHAIR MENDELSOHN AND VICE CHAIR BLACKMON FOR BRINGING THIS ISSUE UP.

I UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS A SUPPORTED BY THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE.

AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TODAY, AND I'LL DEFER TO THEM IF THEY WANT TO PROVIDE ANY CLARIFICATION, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH IT. THANK YOU. SEEING NONE OF QUESTIONS.

SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. NAYS.

SO NEXT ITEM. NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS CONSENT. AGENDA ITEM 19.

[19. 25-895A Authorize acquisition, assumption and/or renegotiation of existing leases and property management contract from Montfort Valley View Shopping Center, LLC, of approximately 79,916 square feet of commercially improved land located near the intersection of Montfort and James Temple Drives for the 13305 Montfort Drive Acquisition Project - Not to exceed $11,310,000.00 ($11,250,000.00 plus closing cost and title expenses not to exceed $60,000.00) - Financing: Park and Recreation Facilities (B) Fund ($9,480,672.00); Mall Area Redevelopment TIF District Fund ($1,829,328.00)]

ITEM 19. AUTHORIZE ACQUISITION, ASSUMPTION AND OR RENEGOTIATION OF EXISTING LEASES AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. CONTRACT FROM MONTFORD VALLEY SHOPPING CENTER, LLC OF APPROXIMATELY 79,916FT² OF COMMERCIALLY APPROVED LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF MONTFORD AND JAMES TEMPLE DRIVE, FOR THE 13305 MONTFORD DRIVE ACQUISITION PROJECT, NOT TO EXCEED $11,310,000.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

SO MOVED. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. IN THE QUESTION.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS ITEM AT THIS TIME ON THE GROUNDS THAT I BELIEVE IT TO BE PREMATURE.

IT IS PREMATURE BECAUSE THIS ACQUISITION PROPOSED OF $11 MILLION OF PRIVATE PROPERTY IS AT A CROSSROADS IN TIME FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT.

THAT CROSSROADS IS THE RESULT OF THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR SALE OF THE ENTIRE FORMER VALLEY VIEW MALL, SITE OF 110 ACRES, WHICH IS THE KEYSTONE FOR THE OVERALL PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

UNTIL WE SEE WHAT THE NEW OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY INTEND TO DO WITH IT, WHICH IS WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW, THEN THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE NOT IN ACCORD WITH AND MAY WISH TO SEE SOME OTHER USE THAN PARKLAND FOR ALL OR A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY. AND SO UNTIL WE SEE WHO THE NEW OWNERS ARE AND HOW THEY INTEND TO USE THIS PROPERTY, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN MY MIND TO TAKE THIS $11 MILLION PROPERTY OFF OF THE TAX ROLLS, REDUCING OUR REVENUES AND THOSE OF THE OTHER TAXING JURISDICTIONS SUCH AS THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND HAVE TO TAKE OVER MANAGEMENT OF A COMMERCIAL RETAIL, EXCUSE ME, RETAIL STRIP SHOPPING CENTER, WHICH I SUBMIT THE CITY IS NOT WELL EQUIPPED TO DO THAT.

WE MAY HAVE TO MANAGE FOR YEARS UNTIL THE ULTIMATE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA.

SO I CANNOT SUPPORT IT AT THIS TIME. IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE AT A LATER TIME, BUT IT'S PREMATURE NOW.

COUNCILWOMAN SHOOT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO CALL UP RYAN O'CONNOR AND KEVIN SPATH, PLEASE. BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. O'CONNOR. MR. SPATH, Y'ALL CAN SHARE THE THE RESPONSE IF YOU WANT TO BEGIN BY RESPONDING TO MR.

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RIDLEY'S CONCERN ABOUT TAKING THIS OFF THE TAX ROLLS AND WHERE IT FITS INTO OUR THE PLANS FOR THIS AREA AND THE IMPACT OF THE LARGE PARCEL BEING ON THE MARKET.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY I'M KEVIN SPATH, THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. AND THIS WAS OBVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AT GREAT DETAIL AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.

I THINK I WOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS, ONE OF WHICH IS THE PROPERTY.

SUBJECT PROPERTY PROPOSED FOR ACQUISITION IS NOT MUCH ON THE TAX ROLLS CURRENTLY.

I THINK IT'S OVER 4 MILLION. THE SECOND THING IS THAT THIS ACQUISITION IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S CATALYTIC TO OUR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY'S OWN ADOPTED AREA PLAN FOR THE VALUE GALLERIA.

SO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THAT PLAN IN 2013.

IT ENVISIONS A FUTURE CENTRAL PARK THAT IS THE KEY THAT UNLOCKS THE REAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THAT ENTIRE 450 ACRES.

SO IN OUR MINDS, AND FROM MY OFFICE'S PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING THAT PLAN FOR TEN YEARS.

IT'S A SLOW BURN AND WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO IT.

BUT THE THE PARK AND THE CITY'S PROACTIVE ACQUISITION AND ASSEMBLY OF THE PARK IS THE THING THAT MAKES ALL THE OTHER PROPERTY RIPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT AT A HIGHER DENSITY IN A WAY THAT IS ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S PLAN.

GOOD MORNING, RYAN O'CONNOR. DALLAS PARKS AND RECREATION.

TO ADD TO WHAT MR. BASS JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS A WHILE.

AND AS, AS WE HAVE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WHEN WE ARE INTENDING TO ACQUIRE LAND FOR PARKS, THE TIME TO ACQUIRE IT IS TODAY. WE'VE JUST SEEN OVER AND OVER HOW THE VALUATIONS HAVE INCREASED OVER TIME, TO THE DETRIMENT TO THE CITY AND TO THE PARK SYSTEM.

SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE TIME IS TO ACT NOW.

WE HAVE A WILLING SELLER. WE'VE BEEN AT THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS IMMEDIATELY CONTIGUOUS TO A PROPERTY THAT WE CURRENTLY OWN, THAT WE CAN AGGREGATE INTO A MEANINGFUL FOUR ACRES.

WE FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT OUR OUR PROBABILITY OF ACQUIRING ANOTHER PARCEL THAT WOULD BE AGAIN ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.

AND AT THAT POINT WE WOULD REALLY HAVE SOMETHING.

WE WOULD HAVE A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF LAND TO INITIATE A PLANNING AND DESIGN EFFORT AND TO REALLY KICK OFF THE TO KICK OFF THE PROCESS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS BOND FUNDED. THIS WAS INTENTIONALLY PLACED IN THE BOND.

THE VOTER SUPPORTED THIS FUNDING TO ACQUIRE THIS LAND IN THIS AREA.

AGAIN, IN OUR OPINION, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE US TODAY.

AND AND IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACT.

SO MY NEXT QUESTION TO YOU IS SO IF IT WAS ADOPTED PLAN BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE'VE BEEN SLOWLY IMPLEMENTING THIS PLAN. THAT PLAN ALL ALONG.

IT'S IT'S REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE VALLEY VIEW SITE.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I WOULD THINK I THINK THE WAY I WOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS ANY PROSPECTIVE BUYER OF THE 110 ACRES ON THE OLD MALL SITE WILL BE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP THAT SITE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S PLAN.

AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY AND REQUEST CHANGES TO ZONING CHANGES TO THE TIF DISTRICTS PROJECT PLAN.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF HURDLES FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO SO TO MR. RIDLEY'S POINT, IT MAY BE FOR SALE, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.

SO UNLESS SOME FUTURE COUNCIL DOWN THE ROAD SAYS, OH, WE'RE GOING TO THROW OUT THE CITY'S PLAN, THEN THERE'S NO REASON TO ANTICIPATE ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED THROUGH THE ZONING TO BE.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, AS WE SAW IN THE PAPER TODAY WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING SOME SPECULATIVE POTENTIALS FOR A MAVERICK STADIUM, THAT PRICE POINT THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, THIS IS EXORBITANT.

SO IF SOMEBODY EVER DECIDED TO BUY IT, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE MACHINATIONS.

THE NEXT THING I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR IS THAT THE VOTERS VOTED FOR THIS.

THE VOTERS OF OUR CITY GAVE THE MONEY IN TRUST FOR US TO ACQUIRE PARKLAND.

AND THAT'S WE'VE DONE EXACTLY WHAT THEY ASKED US TO DO, AND WE ARE DOING IT IN THIS.

WE ARE WE SHOULD NOT BE CIRCUMVENTING COUNCIL ADOPTED PLANS, BOTH FOR ZONING AND FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE SHOULD NOT BE TELLING OUR VOTERS THAT WE KNOW MORE THAN THEY DO ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED,

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WHEN THEY ALREADY CHOSE TO FUND THIS THROUGH THE BOND.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED OVER THERE. THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO.

THE LAST QUESTION THAT I WANT TO ASK YOU THAT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT MR. RIDLEY ASKED IS ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.

COULD YOU SHARE, PLEASE, HOW, WHILE THE FUNDRAISING IS TAKING PLACE, TO BE ABLE TO BEGIN TO DEVELOP THE PARK, HOW WILL WE CONTINUE TO MONETIZE THE PROPERTY AND MANAGE IT? CHART. SO OUR PLAN IS TO HIT YOUR BUTTON. APOLOGIES.

OUR PLAN IS TO ASSUME THE CURRENT LEASES GET NEW LEASES IN PLACE.

THIS. THIS PROPERTY IS GENERATING A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF REVENUE.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 540,000 A YEAR. WE INTEND TO HAVE THE EXISTING MANAGER OF THE PROPERTY IN PLACE, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS CONTINUOUS AND UNINTERRUPTED MANAGEMENT OF THE PROPERTY WHILE WE CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO PERHAPS PURSUE OTHER ACQUISITIONS, TO TO INITIATE THE PLANNING AND DESIGN EFFORT FOR THE PARK.

BUT THE PERHAPS THE UNIQUE ELEMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS THAT IT IS GOING TO GENERATE REVENUES THAT WILL BENEFIT THE FUTURE PARK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IN ADDITION, THE CITY HAS ALREADY INVESTED MILLIONS IN THE IN THE RECONSTRUCTION OF MONTFORT ROAD, WHICH IS ALREADY IT WAS ALMOST COMPLETE. SO POTENTIALLY, IF WE FOLLOWED MR. RIDLEY'S CONCERNS. WE WOULD HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL NEW ROAD AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THIS SHOPPING CENTER SITTING THERE AND THEN A PARCEL ACQUIRED FOR THE PARK.

SO IT ACTUALLY UNDERMINES OUR OWN EFFORTS. IF WE SAY NO TO THIS, NOT TO MENTION THE SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE VOTERS.

SO I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THIS ITEM.

IT'S A FANTASTIC NEXT STEP, AND IT WILL GIVE CONFIDENCE TO BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VISION THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD FOR SO LONG TO ACHIEVE. THANK YOU.

AND I WANT TO ALSO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO THANK STAFF.

YOU GUYS HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY ON THIS AND IT'S REALLY A TREMENDOUS ACHIEVEMENT.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MORENO.

THANK YOU MAYOR. DO WE KNOW AT THIS LOCATION, WHAT THE NEED THE TEN MINUTE WALK CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE? HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT. UP. I HAVEN'T DONE THAT EXACT CALCULATION.

I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU. BUT JUST ANECDOTALLY, THERE IS NO ADJACENT PARKLAND REALLY ANYWHERE IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY.

THE CLOSEST PARKS I CAN THINK OF WOULD BE JAMESTOWN, WHICH WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OF LBJ.

AND THEN I SUPPOSE AS YOU GO EAST, THERE WOULD BE VALLEY VIEW PARK AT HILLCREST AND LBJ.

BUT IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY THERE IS NO PARKLAND IN THIS PART OF TOWN.

AND HELP ME FOLLOW HOW MANY ACRES IS THE TOTAL PART GOING TO BE AND HOW MANY DO WE HAVE ACQUIRED AND HOW MANY MORE DO WE NEED TO ACQUIRE? SO THE THE VISION FOR THE, THE THE CONCEPT OF THE PARK AS WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTITUTED WAS 20 ACRES.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO ACRES THAT REPRESENTS THE PRISON BUILDING THAT SOME OF YOU ALL MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THIS ACQUISITION THAT YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING TODAY IS AN ADDITIONAL TWO ACRES.

OKAY. AND HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL PUBLIC DOLLARS ARE NEEDED AND HOW MUCH PRIVATE INVESTMENT.

WELL, THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM HAD A TOTAL OF $20 MILLION FOR LAND ACQUISITION SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED FOR THIS PURPOSE.

THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST PIECE OF THAT. AS I MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO, WE ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD REPRESENT PERHAPS THE REMAINDER OF THAT ALLOCATION.

BEYOND THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY COMMUNITY, AND ALL THE FRIENDS GROUPS THAT HAVE ASSEMBLED IN THE AREA TO REALIZE THE VISION FOR THE PARK AND THEN, MEANWHILE, CONSIDER ADDITIONAL ACQUISITIONS IN THE FUTURE.

GOING WEST. HOW MANY FROM THE PHILANTHROPY WORLD? HOW MANY DOLLARS HAVE BEEN RAISED TO DATE? MINIMAL.

NEXT TO NEXT TO NOTHING. AND OR IS THE CITY OF DALLAS GOING TO BE MANAGING THE LEASING OPERATIONS.

WERE WE HIRING SOMEONE TO DO THAT FOR US? SO AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL HAVE THE EXISTING PROPERTY MANAGER IN PLACE WHO DOES THE LEASING AT THE SITE AND WE WILL CONTINUE THAT ARRANGEMENT. AND SO WHAT ARE WE PAYING THEM? I BELIEVE THEY CHARGE 4% OF THE RENTS AND IT'S AROUND 20 TO 25,000 BUCKS A YEAR.

OKAY. AND SO, LOOK, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT WE NEED SOME SORT OF PARK IN THIS AREA.

BUT ARE WE WAITING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO START AROUND THE PARK? IS THIS, YOU KNOW, IS WITHOUT KNOWING WHO THE USER IS, IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO DESIGN A PARK.

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AND SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT IS IT PERHAPS WISER TO PUT THIS PURCHASE AT A LATER DATE AND BEING ABLE TO USE BOND DOLLARS FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE SHOVEL READY TODAY AND DO THE ACQUISITION DOWN THE ROAD.

MR. MORENO, IF I MAY. IF WE WAIT, AS MR. O'CONNOR SAID THE PRICE IS ONLY GOING TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE.

REALLY EXPENSIVE. BUT THE TIMING OF TRYING TO TIME THIS AND ALIGN THIS WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IS THE CHALLENGE.

AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE KEY TO UNLOCKING THE FULL DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THIS AREA IS FOR THE PARK TO BE REALIZED, FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO KNOW THAT THE PARK WILL HAPPEN, BECAUSE IF THE PARK DOESN'T HAPPEN OR THERE'S NO CHANCE OF IT HAPPENING, THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL IS HERE. WITH THE PARK, IT'S MUCH GREATER.

AND SO THERE IS NO EASY ANSWER TO, YOU KNOW, HOW.

IT'S HOW QUICKLY WE ASSEMBLE PROPERTY IS A FUNCTION OF HOW QUICKLY WE HAVE FUNDING ACCRUED TO DO THAT.

WE JUST SO HAPPEN TO HAVE THE VOTERS APPROVED $20 MILLION, YOU KNOW, IN MAY OF 2024 FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE.

AND THIS EVEN BEFORE THAT ELECTION, WE STARTED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OWNER OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IN ANTICIPATION OF THE VOTERS APPROVING THAT.

SO SO ACQUIRING PROPERTY IS A FUNCTION OF OUR OUR RESOURCES TO TO DO SO AND THE WILLINGNESS OF OWNERS TO SELL.

FRANKLY, THAT'S THE OTHER PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH EVERY OWNER OF EVERY PARCEL NEEDED FOR THE PARK, BUT AND SOME OF THEM WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL TODAY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

AND SO IT'S IT'S ACQUIRING WHAT WE CAN, NURTURING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OWNERS OF PROPERTIES WE KNOW WE WE NEED TO ACQUIRE IN THE FUTURE, AND TRYING TO ALIGN THAT AND COORDINATE THAT WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THE ADOPTED PLAN FOR THE SITE INCLUDES MIXED USE OFFICE, RESIDENTIAL.

YES. SO THE THE PLAN ITSELF THAT THE CITY ADOPTED IN 2013.

IT CALLS FOR 450 ACRES TO BECOME A REGIONAL EMPLOYMENT CENTER, A REGIONAL, HIGH DENSITY, MIXED USE, MIXED INCOME, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY. IT'S IT'S REALLY THE CITY'S AT THE TIME WAS THE CITY'S ONLY REAL CHANCE TO COMPETE WITH THE NORTHERN SUBURBS.

I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS LEGACY WEST. THIS IS FIELDS WEST.

THIS IS ALL THE STUFF IN FRISCO AND PLANO THAT IS ATTRACTING THE CORPORATE BIG CORPORATE USERS.

THIS IS OUR ANSWER TO THAT PROBLEM. SO AS WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE DOING THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT NET HAS HAS BEEN BLOWN DOWN AND FOLKS ARE GOING TO THE SUBURBS.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS PLAN FROM 2013, WHAT WERE THE VACANCY RATES DOWNTOWN AND WHAT ARE THEY CURRENTLY IN OUR COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE? I'M GOING TO HAVE TO I DON'T OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT VACANCY RATES ARE IN OFFICE DOWNTOWN? PROBABLY 25% IN THE CLASS A AND B AND C BUILDINGS, BUT MUCH LOWER VACANCY IN THE CLASS A BUILDINGS.

YOU KNOW, COVID CHANGED THE REAL ESTATE MARKET, ESPECIALLY FOR OFFICE USE, FOR SURE.

I'M NOT SURE THAT I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT IT'S THE VACANCY IN OFFICE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN IS MUCH HIGHER, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN HOW PEOPLE WORK.

YEAH. THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN. CHAIR. CHAIRWOMAN.

CHAIRWOMAN. MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO QUESTION A PARK IS NEEDED IN THIS AREA.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I LIVE CLOSE TO IT.

I CARE ABOUT THIS AREA. AND IF THIS WAS 2 OR 3 MONTHS AGO, FOR SURE THERE'D BE NO DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

BUT THE POINTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY BRINGS UP ABOUT THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE ADJOINING LAND IS REAL.

AND EVEN JUST TODAY IN THE NEWSPAPER. RIGHT. THIS COULD BECOME A POSSIBLE MAVERICK STADIUM.

WOULD THIS PARK BE APPROPRIATE IF THAT HAPPENED? I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE. SO YOU WOULD BE RECOMMENDING IT.

AND THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT THE PARK BOARD IS GOING TO RECOMMEND.

IF THAT WAS THE SITUATION. SO OF COURSE WE'RE SPEAKING IN HYPOTHETICALS.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MEANINGFUL AND IMPACTFUL PARK ADJACENT TO A TO A VENUE THAT GENERATES THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ATTENDING

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ALL SORTS OF INTERESTING OPPORTUNITIES, COULD BE SPURRED BY THAT SYNCHRONIZATION OF THOSE TWO USES.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPOSED LOCATIONS FOR THE STADIUM.

AND ARE YOU AWARE OF THE OTHER SUBMISSIONS TO THE BACKS FOR THIS PROPERTY? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL OFFERS.

POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR. GERMANENESS TO THE ITEM.

KIND OF STAY CLOSE TO THE SUBJECT, BUT I DON'T THINK IS SURE.

WELL, THE TOPIC IS BUILDING A PARK NEXT TO LAND THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'LL BECOME.

AND IN FACT, WE HAD THIS EXACT CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS WEEK IN THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT CADILLAC HEIGHTS AND THE ROLAND PARISH PARK ADJACENT TO LAND THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BECOME.

AND IT WAS VERY PROBLEMATIC FOR THE COMMITTEE TO EMBRACE THIS IDEA.

WE'VE DONE THIS FOLKS MULTIPLE TIMES. DO YOU WANT ME TO REMIND YOU ABOUT HAMPTON? WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN VERY UNCERTAIN TERMS, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING DOWN THAT PATH AGAIN.

THIS IS 11 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS. ON THE FINANCIAL IMPACT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.

WE'RE TAKING PROPERTY OFF THE TAX ROLLS. SHOULD THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED? I WOULD I WOULD DEFER TO OUR TO OUR REAL ESTATE TEAM.

I DON'T KNOW TYPICALLY HOW THEY REFER TO SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, WHETHER THEY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND IN THE INFORMATION PROVIDED.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. WELL, I'M WONDERING IF IT COULD BE PROVIDED.

HOW MUCH ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WHAT'S THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THIS? DECISION. OKAY. SO THAT PER DCAD GENERATES $30,000 IN TAXES TO THE CITY ANNUALLY.

AND HOW MUCH IS THE PROPERTY PAYING IN TOTAL TAXES? SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE DALLAS ISD. THAT WOULD INCLUDE 96,000 $96,000 A YEAR.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDER.

BUT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE ACTING WITH SUCH UNCERTAINTY AROUND THIS.

AND IS IT POSSIBLE TO PAUSE THIS FOR SIX MONTHS? IT IS NOT. THE OWNER HAS BEEN VERY PATIENT ABOUT THIS PROCESS.

AND HE'S ARTICULATED TO US THAT HE WOULD LIKELY RESCIND, YOU KNOW, BACK AWAY FROM THE TRANSACTION IF IT TOOK ANOTHER SIX MONTHS.

AND THEN WHAT? WHAT WOULD HE DO? I COULDN'T SPECULATE, BUT HE DOES HAVE CHILDREN THAT HE HAS SAID HE WANTS.

HE POTENTIALLY COULD LEAVE THE LEAVE THE PROPERTY FOR THEM.

OKAY. WELL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY FOR EXPRESSING A HESITATION THAT I WAS FEELING ABOUT THIS ITEM, WHICH IS I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO ACT WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND SO I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT THE VOTERS AND THE BOND PROPOSITION.

THE VOTERS VOTED FOR ALL PARKS BECAUSE WE SUPPORT PARKS.

AND I THINK EVERYONE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE SUPPORTS ALL PARKS.

BUT THIS WAS ALSO CONSIDERED TO BE SORT OF A SETTLED IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT WAS GOING TO BECOME.

AND NOW IT'S NOT. THINGS HAVE CHANGED. AND SO I JUST THINK THIS NEEDS A PAUSE UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS NEXT PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

DEVIN MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I, I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PROJECT. I JUST THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT RICH TO HEAR FROM COLLEAGUES WHO WERE THE STRONGEST ADVOCATES WHEN WE SENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VOTERS TO WEIGH IN ON PRIORITIZING.

I ALSO THINK IT'S RICH WHEN WE'VE SEEN THE ADVOCACY FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS THAT TOOK CERTAIN THINGS OFF OF OUR TAX ROLL, LIKE ADVENTURE LAND, FOR INSTANCE. THE REALITY IS, IS THIS IS A PRIORITY.

THIS FITS ALONG WITH THE PLAN WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR VOTERS FOR THIS TO BE A PRIORITY, FOR THIS TO TURN INTO SOMETHING THAT'S POLITICIZED AND DRUG OUT AND SPENT ENTIRELY MORE TIME THAN IS NEEDED ON AN ITEM LIKE THIS TO ME, IS IS RIDICULOUS.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN KEEP THE UNNECESSARY BANTER AND BACK AND FORTH PRETTY LIMITED SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE IMPORTANT BUSINESS ON OUR AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ. THANK YOU, MAYOR ATKINS.

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I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT DEFINITELY. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

WE NEED PARKS, ESPECIALLY IN NORTH DALLAS, AND THERE IS A HUGE PARK IN NORTH DALLAS.

IT'S THAT'S AN INEQUITY THAT NORTH DALLAS HAS THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN WEST DALLAS OR SOUTH DALLAS OR SOUTHERN DALLAS.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKS. WE STILL NEED A FEW MORE HERE AND THERE JUST TO CLOSE SOME GAPS.

BUT IN NORTH DALLAS, THERE ARE LIKE NO PARKS.

I MEAN, THEY'RE SO SPREAD APART. AND WHEN IT COMES TO LET'S SAY THERE IS GOING TO BE AN ARENA AT THIS AREA, WE DON'T KNOW. BUT IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TO THE CITY OF HOUSTON RECENTLY, MINUTE MAID PARK, WHERE THE HOUSTON ASTROS PLAY, THERE'S A BIG, GIGANTIC PARK THAT'S IN BETWEEN THEM AND THE CONVENTION CENTER THERE IN THE CITY OF HOUSTON. SO IT IS ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD THING TO HAVE A PARK OF SOME TYPE THAT WILL SPUR THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO DO, BECAUSE IT CAN'T JUST BE ABOUT THE ARENA OR JUST ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, A STADIUM OR WHATEVER IT IS, BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF DEAD SPACE AROUND THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

SO IF YOU CAN DO SOMETHING THAT'S ACTIVATED, IT REALLY DOES MAKE SENSE.

PARKS SPUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I'M GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN.

PARKS SPUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. LOOK AT CLYDE WARREN.

WE'RE THE FIRST CITY TO EVER BUILD A PARK OVER A FREEWAY.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, EVERYTHING AROUND THERE WENT LIKE CRAZY BECAUSE WE CONNECTED SOUTHERN GATEWAY.

WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE THERE, SO THAT THEY DON'T END UP DISAPPEARING BECAUSE THINGS ARE ALREADY GOING.

PEOPLE ARE EXCITED TO BE BY THIS NEW PARK, THE HAROLD SIMMONS PARK, WHICH WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.

WE'RE ALSO PUTTING THOSE SAME TYPES OF PROTECTIONS IN PLACE IN ORDER TO PROTECT LEGACY RESIDENTS IN THE WEST DALLAS AREA, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE OVERLOOK. THAT'S WHERE THE GATEWAY IS GOING TO BE.

WE'RE ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PARK AS A AS AS A AS A AS A NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DELAY BECAUSE FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, WE ACQUIRED HOW MANY ACRES OF LAND IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. AND FOLKS WERE REAL EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE NEEDED PARKS DOWNTOWN.

AND THERE ARE THREE OF THE MOST AMAZING PARKS DOWN THERE. AND THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUE, MR. MORENO, WHO WAS ON THE PARK BOARD AND THEN THE COUNCIL, HE WAS ABLE TO GET A LOT OF THAT DONE.

AND AS WELL AS MAYOR PRO TEM ADAM MEDRANO. AND SO ALL OF THIS ENDED UP HAPPENING BECAUSE PEOPLE HAD AN IDEA.

SO TO SAY THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GO AROUND THERE.

NO, WE DON'T. BUT WE ALSO HAVE PARKS THAT EXIST ALREADY THAT WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT COULD BE TORN DOWN AND GO UP NEXT TO IT LATER ON IN TIME.

SO HAVING THIS PARK IS EXTREMELY HUGE DEAL FOR NORTH DALLAS BECAUSE THEY NEED IT, BUT ALSO BECAUSE THIS AREA PLAN CALLS FOR IT.

WE ADOPTED AN AREA PLAN. THAT AREA PLAN SAYS THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT A PARK.

AND ANYBODY WHO BUYS IN THAT AREA KNOWS THE PARK IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

AND THAT WAS THE DEAL THAT WE MADE, AND OUR VOTERS APPROVED IT IN A BOND ELECTION.

AND IF WE WAIT ANY LONGER, SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, THREE YEARS, THAT PROPERTY CAN JUST GO UP AND UP AND UP AND UP AND UP IN VALUE, AND THEN WE END UP NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BOND BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, PRICES GO UP AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO IF WE WAIT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SPUR THERE WHAT WE SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED.

IT'S BEEN A MESS. SO WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO BE THE CATALYST TO GET THIS AREA TO START TO DEVELOP.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

BUT NUMBER TWO IS OUR VOTERS TOLD US TO DO IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO LET'S GO UP TO THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL.

LET'S DO A REFRESHER ON WHAT THE WHOLE PROJECT IS.

AND WAS THERE AN INTENT? AND I THINK YOU'VE STATED IT, BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS AN INTENT TO HAVE PARK SPACE THERE.

SO CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A REFRESHER ON WHAT THE WHOLE PROJECT IS? BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE MISSING THAT PIECE. OKAY.

SO THE AREA PLAN KNOWN AS THE VALLEY VIEW GALLERIA AREA, IT'S AN AREA PLAN.

IT'S BEEN ADOPTED. IT'S BEEN ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN MAY OF 2013.

AND THEN A MONTH LATER, THE CITY COUNCIL, ACTUALLY, FOR PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME IN ITS HISTORY, ADOPTED PROACTIVELY AN ENTIRELY NEW ZONING DISTRICT CALLED PD 8087 TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN.

SO IN TERMS OF THE QUESTION OF UNCERTAINTY. YES, THERE'S UNCERTAINTY.

THERE'S ALWAYS UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT.

BUT THE REALITY IS THE CITY CONTROLS THE FORM OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL OCCUR ON THAT PROPERTY,

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BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A PD IN PLACE THAT PRESCRIBES THE FORM OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

THE PD ALSO REQUIRES PUBLIC STREETS TO BE BUILT, AND THE ALL 110 ACRES TO BE CARVED UP INTO WALKABLE BLOCKS.

THAT WILL MAKE WAY FOR DEVELOPMENT. SO WHILE THERE IS UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHO OWNS IT OR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH IT, GENERALLY THE REALITY IS THE CITY ALREADY HAS THINGS IN PLACE TO CONTROL AND IMPLEMENT THE PLAN.

SO IT'S 4 TO 5 AT THE TIME. SEVERAL YEARS AGO WAS 4 TO $5 BILLION OF DEVELOPMENT NOT JUST ON THE 110 ACRES OF THE FORMER VALLEY VIEW MALL SITE, BUT OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE 450 ACRES WERE ANTICIPATED TO TO REDEVELOP.

WE'RE ANTICIPATING 8 TO 10,000 NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS OVER.

AND THIS IS OVER A LONG TERM. THIS IS NOT THIS IS NOT A SHORT TERM PLAY FOR THE CITY.

WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER. AND SO THIS IS A LONG TERM VIEW OF THINGS.

8 TO 10,000 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 3 TO 4,000,000FT² OF OFFICE.

10 TO 15,000 JOBS. YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND 1500 HOTELS.

IT'S LIKE A MINI CITY. YEAH. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO WHILE YOU SAY THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS IT, WE DO HAVE, I THINK IT'S FORM BASED ZONING.

RIGHT? THAT KIND OF TELLS US WHAT THE FORM OF THAT GENERAL AREA IS GOING TO BE.

AND PART OF THAT IS A 20 ACRE PARK. CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND WE HAVE TWO ACRES WITH THE PRISM. AND THIS IS ANOTHER TWO ACRES THAT WE ARE ACCUMULATING FOR THE 20 ACRES FOR A PARK.

CORRECT. OKAY. AND I BELIEVE IF WE'VE NOT ADOPTED IT, WE'VE REITERATED IT, THAT OUR WHOLE INTENT IS TO HAVE A 15 MINUTE WALK BY ALL THESE.

YOU SAID 8000 UNITS, I THINK. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? SO ARE WE ABLE WITH THIS PARK? ABSENT THIS PARK, I.

FROM WHAT MR. RYAN, YOU'VE SAID WE WILL NOT HAVE A 15 MINUTE WALK WITH THIS PARK.

WOULD WE GET CLOSER TO AT LEAST BEING PEDESTRIAN VERSUS GETTING IN A CAR AND DRIVING THROUGH 635 TO A PARK? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, SO WE ARE HITTING A PLAN. WE'RE FOLLOWING A PLAN.

WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR OWN INTENT OF A 15 MINUTE WALK TO OPEN SPACE.

AND I THINK WE'RE ASKING A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE MORE OPEN SPACE.

SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ON WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

AND SO BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE A TIFF, THE MALL AREA REDEVELOPMENT TIFF WHO BID WHO APPROVED 1.8, WHICH I ASSUME WAS A BODY THAT SAID YES. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR RECREATION FACILITY, WHICH IS BOND, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC SAYING YES. AND I BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A BOND, THERE'S THIS COVENANT THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE VOTERS AND US SAYING, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO SPEND THIS MONEY HERE, AND WE EXPECT YOU TO SPEND THIS MONEY HERE.

SO I GUESS I'M REALLY CONFUSED ON WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

BUT ANYWAY, IF Y'ALL. THAT'S RHETORICAL. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I THINK THIS HAS BEEN THE INTENT THIS WHOLE TIME IS TO HAVE THIS PARK WITH. BECAUSE AS WE BUILD, AS YOU SAID, KEVIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO A ONE AND DONE.

WE'RE HERE TO STAY. WE'RE DEVELOPING AN AREA TO BUILD INTO A NORTHERN MAIN STREET, IF YOU WILL.

IT'S NORTH DALLAS MAIN STREETS. MIDTOWN, I THINK, IS WHAT IT WAS CALLED AT ONE TIME.

AND IT'S AN OBVIOUS CHOICE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED OPEN SPACE, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL AT ONCE.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT. AND HOW DO YOU EAT AN ELEPHANT BITE SIZED PIECES? AND THIS IS ANOTHER BITE SIZED PIECE TO A 20 ACRE PLAN FOR A PARK.

DID I GET ALL THAT RIGHT? YES YOU DID. I WOULD ALSO MENTION MAYBE I HAVEN'T SAID IT YET, BUT SO AS RECENTLY AS LAST NIGHT, I MEAN, I'VE SPOKEN TO THE BROKER REPRESENTING THE 110 ACRES ACROSS THE STREET.

AND RYAN AND I HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE REPRESENTATION OF THAT PROPERTY TO ACQUIRE THE FOUR AND A HALF ACRES WE NEED FOR THE PARK ON THAT SIDE OF MONTFORT. SO IF WE DON'T ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY, THEN WHAT'S THE POINT IN ACQUIRING THE STUFF ACROSS THE STREET? WE DON'T HAVE. I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE WE ARE LINING THAT UP AT THIS TIME.

SO IF ALL THINGS FALL INTO PLACE, WE WOULD HAVE THE TWO, THE FOUR ACRES ON THE WEST SIDE OF MONTFORT AND FOUR AND A HALF ACRES ON THE EAST SIDE OF MONTFORT, WHICH IS MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BIGGER THAN KLYDE WARREN.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, IF YOU WANTED TO ACCUMULATE THE WHOLE 20 ACRES, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, TOO. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT IN SMALL INCREMENTS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IF IT'S 5 MILLION, THAT'S A THAT'S A LOT OF CHANGE. SO WE HAVE TO DO IT IN INCREMENTS AND SHOW IN GOOD FAITH TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PLAN WHICH YOU SAID, THEN IT BECOMES EVERYBODY SEES THAT, AND THEN THEY GO, OH YEAH, THE CITY'S SERIOUS ABOUT THIS. THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP HERE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO WAIT TO DO SOMETHING TO ASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE 20 ACRES IN MY MIND AND EIGHT AND A HALF ACRE PARK,

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IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN ACQUIRING THE OTHER TRACK THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, THAT'S A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF LAND, CORRECT? YOU KNOW, THAT COULD EASILY BE A PHASE ONE OF A LARGER VISION.

AND SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE OF THE MIND THAT THE MINUTE THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS REAL, WE ENGAGE IN A, IN A REAL PLANNING AND DESIGN EXERCISE TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, CHART OUT WHAT THAT EIGHT AND A HALF ACRES DOES.

AND THERE'S NO REASON TO WAIT TO ASSEMBLE THE REMAINING ACREAGE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER MUHAMMAD RESENDEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THIS ITEM.

IT'S A NO BRAINER. THERE'S NO JUSTIFIABLE REASON TO TO DELAY.

AND IF THIS CONVERSATION CONTINUES ANY MUCH LONGER, I THINK IT WILL BE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE INEFFICIENCIES THAT WE FACE AROUND THE HORSESHOE. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE NECESSARY SUPPORT TO ADVANCE THIS ITEM, SO LET'S GET ON WITH IT.

I'M READY TO VOTE. THANK YOU. OKAY. WITH THAT, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. AND OPPOSES. NO. OKAY. WE GOT NOTED, MR. MAYOR. NOTICE. NO. OKAY. NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 20.

[20. 25-673A Authorize acquisition from AT&T INC., formerly known as Southwestern Bell Telephone Company, of approximately 52,059 square feet of land located near the intersection of Lombardy Lane and Brockbank Drive for the Fire Station No. 43 Replacement Project - Not to exceed $1,109,060.69 ($1,100,000.00, plus closing costs and title expenses not to exceed $9,060.69) - Financing: Public Safety (G) Fund (2017 General Obligation Bond Fund)]

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON THIS ITEM AND WILL BE LEAVING THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.

I'LL READ THE ITEM INTO THE RECORD. ITEM 20 AUTHORIZE ACQUISITION FROM AT&T INC., FORMERLY KNOWN AS SOUTHWESTERN BELL TELEPHONE COMPANY, OF APPROXIMATELY 52,059FT² OF LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF LOMBARDI LANE AND BROCKBANK DRIVE FOR THE FIRE STATION NUMBER THREE REPLACEMENT PROJECT, NOT TO EXCEED $1,109,060.69.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I SECOND THE MOTION. SECOND. ANY QUESTION AND COMMENT? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY, YOU MAY RETURN TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 23. ITEM 23, AUTHORIZE ACQUISITION BY THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION

[23. 25-923A Authorize (1) acquisition by the Dallas Housing Finance Corporation (DHFC) of Oak & Ellum, an existing market-rate multifamily development located at 2627 Live Oak Street, Dallas, Texas 75204 for development of affordable housing; and (2) receipt and deposit of $1,489,361.00 from Waterford Property Company, LLC (Applicant) into the Tax Increment Financing Reinvestment Zone Number Twelve (Deep Ellum TIF District or TIF District) Fund as a onetime payment in lieu of annual tax increment for tax years 2025, 2026, and 2027 - Estimated Revenue Foregone: $9,502,325.00 to the City General EWKI $8,012,-964^00 (estimated taxes over 15-year period)]

OF OAK AND ELM AND EXISTING MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 2627 LIVE OAK STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 75204 FOR DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND IT WAS ALSO PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. COMMENT. CHAIRMAN. MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU.

THIS ITEM WAS DISCUSSED PRETTY EXTENSIVELY IN THE HOUSING COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS WEEK.

AND I'D LIKE TO ASK CYNTHIA ALLISON A QUESTION OR TWO.

THIS IS AN ITEM THAT'S GOING TO REMOVE $9.5 MILLION FROM THE TAX ROLLS OVER 15 YEARS, BUT OF COURSE, THERE'S 60 MORE YEARS TO THIS TAX ABATEMENT. CYNTHIA, THE FIRST QUESTION IS, WILL THIS PROJECT CREATE ANY NEW UNITS OF HOUSING? CYNTHIA ALLISON, DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS NOT ADDING ANY NEW UNITS. IT IS CHANGING THE INCOME SCALE, BUT NO NEW UNITS WILL BE ADDED OF HOUSING.

OKAY. YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY BRIEFED THE HOUSING COMMITTEE ON SOME PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HFCS.

COULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE RECOMMENDATION ABOUT FROM THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS, ON WHETHER HFCS SHOULD ACQUIRE EXISTING HOUSING TO MAKE THEM PART OF THE HFC PORTFOLIO? SO I DID MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I'VE DONE IT A COUPLE OF WAYS.

THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION I HAD MADE WAS TO NOT ALLOW MARKET RATE UNITS TO BE PULLED OFF THE MARKET TO CONVERT TO EXEMPT UNITS. THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION I MADE WAS TO USE A FORMULA TO MANAGE THEM BETTER.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS TO ALLOW ONLY 10% OF THE UNITS PULLED OFF THE MARKET TO REMAIN MARKET, AND THE REST OF THEM HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE. SO THOSE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS WERE MADE.

WE DISCUSSED THEM IN LENGTH IN SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS, AND THEY STILL SIT WITH THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION OUT THERE.

AND WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, DID YOU ALSO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE ARMY LEVELS OF 140%, AS THIS DEAL DOES? SO, NO, MY RECOMMENDATION WAS NOT TO HAVE UNITS AT THAT HIGH.

OUR PURPOSE IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT IS TO CREATE AFFORDABLE UNITS, AND OUR AFFORDABLE UNITS USUALLY DO NOT GO OVER 120% AMI,

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AND USUALLY ARE AT 80% OR BELOW BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE USE.

AND IN THIS PROJECT, WHAT PERCENT OF THE UNITS WILL BE AT 140% AMI.

LET ME LOOK UP THE DETAILS REAL QUICK HERE.

OH, HERE THEY ARE. OKAY. SO 140% IS 40% UNITS, 40% OF THE UNITS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE A 75 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT FOR 140% AMI OF 40% OF THE UNITS, PLUS ANOTHER 10% OF MARKET.

AND THEN WE HAVE 30% OF 80% AND 20% AT 60% AMI.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO THIS YEAR, THIS PROPERTY GENERATES $510,000. $510,907 IN REVENUE. PROPERTY TAX TO THE CITY.

HALF $1 MILLION THAT WE WON'T BE RECEIVING NEXT YEAR IF WE PASS THIS DEAL.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND ACTUALLY, IT'S EVEN WORSE THAN THAT BECAUSE IT GENERATES $722,000 LAST YEAR FOR DISD. AND WE'RE GOING TO EXEMPT THOSE DOLLARS FROM THEM.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SORRY. THE COUNTY WILL NOT RECEIVE 156,000.

COMMUNITY COLLEGE WON'T RECEIVE $76,000 AND THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT 153,000.

THAT IS CORRECT. THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS 1.6 MILLION TOTAL.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS GENERATING $1.6 MILLION OF PROPERTY TAXES THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO EXEMPT.

AND PLEASE NOTE THE HYPOCRISY THAT WE ARE DOWN AT THE LEDGE SAYING WE DO NOT WANT OTHER ENTITIES TO EXEMPT OUR PROPERTY TAXES, BUT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO THAT FOR THEM. SO I HAVE VOTED ON HDFCS YES, FOR EVERY SINGLE DEAL THAT HAS COME FORWARD.

BUT ONE, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND ONE BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST BLANKET SAY WE BELIEVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THEREFORE, ANY DEAL THAT COMES BEFORE US, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE YES.

WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THINGS IN A MUCH MORE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER WAY AND UNDERSTAND WE NEED THIS REVENUE.

WE CANNOT MAINTAIN OUR STREETS, WE CANNOT PAY OUR COPS.

WE CANNOT DO THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TASKED TO DO WHEN WE KEEP EXEMPTING EVERY SINGLE HOUSING DEAL THAT COMES BEFORE US.

SO THIS ONE'S A NO. IT IS NOT STRUCTURED IN A WAY THAT I THINK PROVIDES THE KIND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE'RE MEANT TO GIVE WITH THAT KIND OF SUBSTANTIAL TAX EXEMPTION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME SHARE THAT.

CHAIRMAN WES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANKS FOR STAYING UP HERE.

I DO AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT THAT WE CAN'T JUST BLANKET APPROVE EVERY DEAL, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT EVERY DEAL INDEPENDENTLY.

AND, AND THIS IS ONE THAT DEFINITELY DESERVES SOME ATTENTION.

SO I WAS IN AUSTIN TESTIFYING WHEN THIS OCCURRED.

AND SO I DIDN'T GET THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMITTEE MEETING.

I KNOW MY, YOU KNOW, CHAIR AND SOME OF OUR OTHER FOLKS HAD BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WEREN'T SAID.

IS THAT THE HFC AND STAFF, WHEN APPROVING THESE DEALS ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

YOU USE A PUBLIC BENEFIT ANALYSIS, RIGHT? YES.

THERE IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT THAT IS REVIEWED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT REALLY NEEDS OUR SUPPORT.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? EXPLAIN IT IN SIMPLE TERMS. QUICKLY IF YOU'RE ABLE, THE PUBLIC IS THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT TO THE CITY.

AND THEY SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS BEING CREATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE OTHER IS IF WITHOUT OUR WITHOUT OUR ASSISTANCE AS AN HFC AND THE EXEMPTION THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING CANNOT OCCUR IN THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS IN AN AREA THAT IS IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO LIVE IN ALREADY, WHERE STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES.

CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO WHERE DOES THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT FALL ON THE ON THE BENEFIT RATIO.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A SCORE FOR THAT. YEAH.

AARON QUINTAL, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE DALLAS HFC.

THANK YOU, CHAIR WEST. SO THIS WE CALCULATE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT ANALYSIS AS A RETURN AGAINST THE TAX DOLLARS FORGONE.

SO THIS IS UP TO LIKE A 73% PUBLIC BENEFIT. SO THAT IS BASICALLY MEANS OVER THE 15 YEARS ALL OF THE TAXES CITY STATE LOCAL WE GET BACK IN RENT SAVINGS. ALSO PAYMENTS TO THE HFC AND SOCIAL SERVICES PROVIDED AT THE PROPERTY, A 72 OR 73% RETURN ON ALL THOSE TAXES FOREGONE.

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SO OVER EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR SPENT WE GET, YOU KNOW, ALMOST $0.75 BACK IN TERMS OF PUBLIC BENEFIT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE INVESTING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING? OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY SOMETHING. SO IS THAT A GOOD TEST.

AND ACCORDING TO ALL OF OUR MEASURES, THIS IS ON THE HIGHER END OF THE OF THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT RETURN.

THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND THE MAIN REASON IT'S ON THE HIGHER END OF THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT RETURN, IS BECAUSE IT'S IN AN AREA THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND IT'S PROVIDING A MIX WE DON'T HAVE THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT MIX IN THE CATEGORIES. IS THERE ALSO I HAVE A NOTE ABOUT THERE BEING PAYMENTS INTO THE TIF.

CORRECT. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? THAT REVENUE GENERATION THAT WILL BE COMING IN TO OFFSET THE TAX LOSSES.

GOOD MORNING COUNCIL ROBIN BENTLEY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. YOU ARE CORRECT. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. THIS PROPERTY IS AN EXISTING PROPERTY IN THE DEEP ELLUM TIF.

AND SO THE TAXES PAID INTO THE TIF WERE CALCULATED AS PART OF THE TIF PLAN.

BY PULLING THEM OFF OF THE TAX ROLL, WE'RE IMPACTING THE TIF PLAN.

SO WE HAD NEGOTIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPER TO MAKE A PAYMENT TO THE DEEP ELLUM TIF TO MAKE THEM WHOLE FOR THE FOREGONE TAXES.

WE WERE ASKED TO DELETE THAT FROM THE ITEM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND TO BRING IT LATER AS A SEPARATE ITEM NOT RELATED TO THE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WITH THE ATTORNEYS RIGHT NOW, I UNDERSTAND, IS DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE THE REVENUES THAT WILL BE GENERATED FOR THE TIF TO BE SIGNIFICANT? CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE? IT WAS SOMEWHERE IN THE BALLPARK OF 1.1 MILLION.

I'M LOOKING AT THE TEAM A LITTLE BIT HIGHER, 1.4 1.4 MILLION.

THANK YOU FOR THE SIGNALING FROM THE SIDE. AND IS THAT PER YEAR? THAT'S TOTAL BECAUSE THE TIP EXPIRES SOON. SO IT'S NOT THE FULL 75 YEARS OF THE.

ALL RIGHT. SO THERE IS A REVENUE GENERATION FROM THE TIF.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO COMPLETELY OFFSET THE TAXES THAT WE'RE TAKING OFF THE ROLLS.

BUT IT IS SOME REVENUE THAT WHEN WE ANALYZE THE FULL PICTURE HERE, WE NEED TO TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT.

SUBJECT TO THAT FUTURE VOTE. YES. SUBJECT TO WHAT? SUBJECT TO A FUTURE COUNCIL ITEM TO APPROVE THAT PAYMENT? YES. THANK YOU. KEVIN, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? YOU'RE JUST THERE FOR MORAL SUPPORT. I WAS ONLY GOING TO CLARIFY THAT THE DEEP ELLUM TIF DISTRICT HAS ONLY THREE YEARS REMAINING IN ITS LIFE, AND SO THE THE AMOUNT THAT'S PROJECTED IN THE ITEM THAT WAS STRUCK THROUGH IS ONLY FOR THE FINAL THREE YEARS.

OKAY. AND I GUESS I'LL JUST ASK IN SUMMARY, I SEE THERE'S SOME OTHER SPEAKERS.

IS WHAT SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING AS COUNCIL WHEN WE'RE WEIGHING, YOU KNOW, AS CHAIR MENDELSOHN HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE, WE'RE WEIGHING LIKE, THE PROS AND CONS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS FAIR TO SAY WE ARE TAKING TAX REVENUES OFF THE OFF THE ROLLS.

SO WHAT SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING HERE? THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION, BECAUSE IT IS VERY PERSONAL AS TO WHAT IS CONSIDERED VALUABLE. RIGHT. WHAT 1ST MAY CONSIDER VALUABLE IS THE EXEMPTION ITSELF, AND OTHERS MAY CONSIDER AFFORDABLE UNITS OF ANY SORT IN A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA AND AN AREA THAT IS AS EXPENSIVE AS THIS PARTICULAR AREA WHERE THESE UNITS ARE GOING AND HAVE VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANY AFFORDABLE UNITS THERE WITHOUT DOING THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY.

IT'S SO PERSONAL IN THE PERSPECTIVE, I COULDN'T I CAN'T ANSWER THAT FOR HOW YOU WEIGH VALUE, EXCEPT THAT WE TRULY WANT TO FIND THE BALANCE IN HOW WE PRESENT THESE PROJECTS AND THE AND THE VALUE THAT THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS BRING, AND AS MUCH THAT WE CAN GIVE TO THOSE OCCUPANTS IN THOSE PROPERTIES THAT THEY MAY NOT ALREADY HAVE.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ADD TO THAT PERSPECTIVE WHEN WE KNOW IT IS NOT THERE AT ALL.

ALL RIGHT. LAST QUESTION. HAS ANYONE ANALYZED THE COST OF NEW CONSTRUCTION OF UNITS OF THIS TYPE VERSUS THE COST OF US PURCHASING THIS AND TAKING THIS OFF THE TAX ROLLS.

YES. THAT'S I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THAT QUESTION.

SO TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THIS SAME PROJECT RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD COST UPWARDS OF $300,000 A UNIT.

SO THAT'S OVER. THAT'S ABOUT $130 MILLION. AND WE'RE GETTING THIS PROJECT AT ALMOST HALF THAT AT $170,000 A UNIT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN SAID THAT WE WE'VE APPROVED EVERY PROJECT FROM THE HFC.

WELL, THE HFC BOARD, WHO YOU GUYS ALL APPOINT, THEY VET ALL OF THESE AS WELL.

AND THEY VET MANY MORE PROJECTS THAT DON'T COME TO THIS BODY.

AND SO THERE'S AN EXTENSIVE PROJECT PROCESS THAT GOES ON BEFORE WE EVER EVEN CONSIDER COMING TO THIS HORSESHOE.

AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT HAS PASSED THEIR VETTING.

AND SO THEY SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OUR GOAL TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF THE TAX ROLLS BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A BURDEN ON EVERYONE.

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RIGHT. BUT THE MISSION TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH WHERE SOMETIMES THIS INVESTMENT IS WARRANTED.

AND SO IT'S A VIEW OF THE HFC BOARD THAT THIS IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THOSE TIMES.

AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, IT PROVES THAT OUT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MR. ELLISON, DO WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DALLAS? YES, SIR. WE DO. AND THAT'S A CURRENT SHORTAGE.

YOU'RE NOT JUST SPECULATING ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN A FEW YEARS FROM NOW.

THERE ARE PEOPLE TODAY WHO ARE PRICED OUT OF THE HOUSING MARKET IN DALLAS, OR ARE EXPENDING MORE THAN A THIRD OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST AT CURRENT RENT RATES.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. AND DISTRICT 14 HAS, PARTICULARLY IN THIS AREA, CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, VERY HIGH COST HOUSING. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

AND A PARTICULAR SHORTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE OF THE HIGH REAL ESTATE COSTS.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? AGREE WITH THAT? YES, SIR.

SO THERE'S A TIME ELEMENT INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF CONVERTING AN EXISTING MARKET RATE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO AFFORDABLE IN THAT UNLIKE NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHICH CAN TAKE TWO, THREE OR LONGER TERMS TO ENTITLE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT, THESE UNITS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT AFFORDABLE RATES VIRTUALLY IMMEDIATELY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND SO IT'S A WAY TO ADDRESS OUR CURRENT HOUSING SHORTAGE.

THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT TWO OR 3 OR 5 YEARS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW BUILDING.

THAT IS RIGHT. OUR CONSTRUCTION TYPICALLY TAKES THREE YEARS TO START.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MORENO. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE PROJECT. NOT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT IS MEETING OUR ALL OUR NEEDS.

I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT SET THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND OUR DEVELOPERS DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, EVEN THOUGH WE VOCALIZED THAT PREVIOUSLY.

AND SO IN APRIL, WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE COMING TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SETTING FORTH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ARMY LOCATION, PUBLIC SERVICE HOW THESE SPUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND I'LL START WITH SPURRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

DO WE TYPICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HFCS, IS THAT ONE OF THEIR THE GOALS IS TO SPUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA? YOU KNOW, THE STATED GOAL IS TO PROVIDE SAFE, SANITARY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.

BUT AS A ANCILLARY GOAL, ANYTIME YOU PROVIDE A SAFE AND CREDIBLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT FOR SOMEONE.

IT ALLOWS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THAT SURROUNDING AREA. THIS BEING SO CLOSE TO THE DEEP ELLUM DISTRICT AND BEING ABLE TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY MAKING, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN 40 AND $80,000 A YEAR.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS WHO WORK IN THAT AREA AT, YOU KNOW, PECAN LODGE OR ADAIRS OR ANYWHERE IN THAT IN THAT DISTRICT CAN LIVE VERY CLOSE AT A AT A VERY HIGH QUALITY ESTABLISHMENT. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IN TURN, WILL HELP THOSE BUSINESSES THRIVE.

BUT IF WE'RE BEING REALISTIC HERE, THIS AREA IS IT'S ABSOLUTELY A HIGH OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT.

BUT I SEE VERY LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL GROWTH JUST BECAUSE THERE'S VERY LITTLE LAND, VACANT LAND THERE TO BE DEVELOPED. WE SURE WE MIGHT SEE REDEVELOPMENT.

BUT AGAIN, THE STATED GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET NEW, NOT NOT THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY CURRENTLY ON THE MARKET.

I DO LIKE THE FACT. AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG THAT INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN THIS COMPLEX WILL BE ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THE REDUCED RATES. AND SO WHAT WILL THE MANAGEMENT AND THE DEVELOPER DO TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN THIS PROPERTY WHO ARE STRETCHED THIN, WHO WHO MIGHT BE PAYING A LITTLE MORE THAN THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.

HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THAT THEY BENEFIT FIRST? CERTAINLY. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, CHAIRMAN. SO AS SOON AS THE TRANSACTION IS CLOSED AND THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, CHANGES HANDS, THEY WILL GO THROUGH AND QUALIFY ANYONE WHO HAS THOSE INCOME QUALIFICATIONS AND THEY WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR A NEW LEASE AT THAT REDUCED RATE. OKAY. AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE WITH THIS JUST AGAIN, ANOTHER ANNOUNCEMENT TO OUR DEVELOPERS

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TO REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE TO CYNTHIA, WITH ANY CONCERNS ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SET FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY AND THAT THE DEVELOPERS AREN'T GETTING CAUGHT OFF GROUND.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE PROCESS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PROJECT THAT'S ALREADY IN THE WORK, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S FAIR. BUT BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS AND CLEAR RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW, BECAUSE HFCS ARE A GREAT TOOL IF WE USE THEM, RIGHT, THEY CAN HELP US WITH OUR AFFORDABILITY ISSUES.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE APRIL MEETING. EARLY ANNOUNCEMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S COMING.

TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THOSE IN THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD. THANK YOU. JUST BRIEFLY, BECAUSE I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF THINGS WORKING TODAY THAT IMPACTS QUALITY OF LIFE, AND I NEED TO CHIME IN ON THIS.

I RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CONVERSATION AROUND THIS CONVERSATION AROUND HOUSING.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER MY WORDS, MR. DOOR WAS THERE. BUT IF WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DELIVER ON OUR HOUSING.

I'M ALMOST REFLECTING SOME OF WHAT THE MAYOR SAID.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF HOUSING AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

THAT'S MY PERSONAL POSITION AS I STAND HERE TODAY.

AND AS I STATED TO YOU ALL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO BEFORE THE MAYOR'S STATEMENT.

NOW, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, WE HEAR THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING AND EQUITY AND SATURATION OF SEGREGATION AND SEGREGATED PATTERNS. I BEGAN TO LOOK DEEPER IN THE SOUTH, THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, NOT THE SOUTH, THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, AND ALL THE LAND THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF LAND THAT WE COULD BUILD ON AND WE COULD BUILD IN AND BE AS CREATIVE AS. I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT A PIECE THAT WE HAVE OVER NEAR REDBIRD AND 35, I SAID, NOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WE OWN THE LAND HERE, WE COULD EXPERIENCE A EXPERIMENT, IF YOU WILL, WITH THE LAND TRUST, BECAUSE LAND TRUSTS ARE HARDER WHEN YOU IMPOSE IT ON AN ALREADY ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY.

BUT IF IT'S A CLEAN SLATE, YOU CAN INTRODUCE THAT CONCEPT, AND THE PEOPLE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO.

YOU REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION. AND SO WE HAD TO GO IN AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RFP AND WHO WE'RE GOING TO PUT PUT POSITION UP TO HANDLE THAT.

BUT WE OWN THE LAND. WE SHOULD BE MOVING EXPEDITIOUSLY TO ATTACK THAT AVAILABILITY.

SO WHEN I BEGAN THIS PROCESS OF LISTENING, EVEN ABOUT THIS PROCESS, AND I'M TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GIVING WITH THESE ABATEMENTS, WHAT HAVE YOU. SOME OF THEM LOSE THEIR BREATH, THEY GO UNCONSCIOUS.

NOW, SOME OF THEM I HAVE HAD TO SUPPORT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION AND THE NECESSITY.

BUT QUESTION I WOULD ASK YOU OR SEE A CITY MANAGER WHO CAN ASK THAT QUESTION.

DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA IN THE CITY MANAGER, COULD YOU LET ME HAVE YOUR ATTENTION FOR JUST A MINUTE? CITY MANAGER. CITY MANAGER WHERE WOULD I ASK THE WHICH DEPARTMENT OR WHICH PERSON WOULD HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF VACANT LOTS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR THAT I REPRESENT THAT WE OWN? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN.

I'M SORRY. LET ME CLARIFY WHERE WE COULD BUILD HOUSING. YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. I DO APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING HAS TRULY BEEN OF CONCERN FOR YOU.

SINCE YOUR TIME ON THE COUNCIL WE DEFINITELY, THROUGH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT MAINTAINED THAT INVENTORY AND STAFF IS DEFINITELY REVIEWING THAT INVENTORY ON NOT ONLY AN ANNUAL BASIS, BUT AS NEW PROJECTS COME FORWARD.

AND SO I KNOW THAT OUR DIRECTOR OF HOUSING CAN DEFINITELY OPINE ON IT EVEN FURTHER, BUT IT'S REALLY A PART OF OUR HOUSING DEPARTMENT'S FUNCTION.

SO THE QUESTION IS, COULD YOU TODAY GIVE ME A COMPLETE LIST ON ALL OF THE AVAILABLE LOTS THAT WE OWN NUMBER ONE DISTRICT FOR? BUT WHEN YOU WHOSE JOB IS IT TO GO OUT AND TO ACTUALLY CHECK OUT, SURVEY AND INSPECT THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE'RE NOT CONTINUING TO FEED THE NEWS MEDIA AND SCARE FOLKS THAT, OH MY GOSH, I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

ONE TIME IT WAS, OH, WE NEED 20,000 AFFORDABLE UNITS.

WELL, NOW IT'S PROBABLY 40,000. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT WE CANNOT BUILD IN PLACES WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL

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THESE EMPTY SPOTS? EMPTY LOTS. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

IT DEFINITELY IS PART OF OUR ONGOING REVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE FROM AN AVAILABILITY STANDPOINT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOTS AND LOTS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY.

BUT AGAIN, THAT WORK IS MAINTAINED AND DONE THROUGH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO COULD YOU PUT TELL ME AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS PERHAPS THIS AFTERNOON? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THE AVAILABLE LOTS THAT THE CITY OWNS IN DISTRICT FOUR.

AND THEN WE COULD FIND OUT WHO ELSE SURVEYS SO WE CAN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN TALK TO SOME OF THESE DEVELOPERS AND INCENTIVIZE THEM TO COME TO THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET ME COME BACK TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

SO WHEN WE COME, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR FORM OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

YES, SIR. I GOT A POINT OF ORDER. WHERE'S YOUR POINT OF ORDER? I'M JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE. UNDERSTAND THE RELEVANCE OF THIS.

THE RELEVANCE IS ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON THIS.

MR. ARNOLD. CHAIRMAN. HOLD ONE SECOND. OKAY. NOW, WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF ORDER? GERMANE. GERMANE. I KNOW THAT'S THE FAVORITE TERM.

SO HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO PHRASE THIS? HOW CAN WE JUST STICK TO THE SUBJECT MATTER? ALL RIGHT, THE SUBJECT MATTERS IS HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE PROVIDING THROUGH THIS ABATEMENT? WHAT IS THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS? ARE YOU ASKING HOW MUCH THE EXEMPTION WILL BE OVER TIME, OR ARE YOU ASKING.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. OKAY. BOTH OF THOSE GIVING THEM ANY MONEY. WHAT? SO WHAT DOES IT COSTING THE TAXPAYERS FOR THEM NOT TO PAY TAXES.

SO THE TOTAL EXEMPTION. LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT 5.5 RIGHT HERE.

IT'S THE TOTAL EXEMPTION OVER 15 YEARS FOR ALL TAXING ENTITIES IS 30 MILLION.

137. WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

30,000,001. 37. THAT $30 MILLION? YES, MA'AM.

SO THE GERMANENESS WOULD BE THE TAXPAYERS DOLLARS AS IT RELATES TO BUILDING HOMES AND HOUSES THAT OUR COMMUNITY COULD LIVE IN AN AFFORDABLE SITUATION HERE. A STRUCTURE. SO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT'S MY GERMANENESS TO THAT QUESTION.

I'M SIMPLY PUTTING A LITTLE MORE HEAT ON IT. I AM GOING TO THINK ABOUT MY VOTE ON THIS, BUT I THINK AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO STOP BECAUSE IT IS TAXPAYERS DOLLARS. MAYOR, THAT IS MY. MAYOR, THAT IS MY RESPONSE TO THE GERMANENESS SO THAT THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT CLEAR ON THAT, AS I ADVOCATE FOR THOSE IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR WHO NEED QUALITY HOUSING, AND WE CAN STOP ACTUALLY GETTING FOLKS EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE CANNOT BUILD, FOR SOME STRANGE REASON IN THIS GREAT CITY.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN. I'M SORRY. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU HAVE FIVE SPOKE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY. HOW MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS WILL BE? IS IT NOT ON? THERE IT IS. OH. HOW MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS WILL BE IN THIS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT? BECAUSE I THINK AND I WANT TO GET SOME CLARITY ON THIS, THE INTENT BEHIND THIS, AARON, WAS TO BRING AFFORDABILITY TO DOWNTOWN.

RIGHT. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. NOW, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, HOW MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS WILL END UP BEING IN, HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN THERE AND THEN HOW MANY OF THEM WILL BE.

RIGHT. THERE'S THERE'S 424 UNITS ON THE PROPERTY.

THEY'RE STRATIFIED 10% MARKET RATE, 40% AT 140.

30% AT 80 AND 20% AT 60 AND BELOW. SO WE DEFINE AFFORDABLE USUALLY AS 80 AND BELOW TRADITIONALLY. SO THAT'S ABOUT HALF 212 UNITS I BELIEVE.

SO AT 80% HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO RENT THIS ON AVERAGE.

I THINK ON THE MEMO HERE WE HAVE FOR THE WELL IT DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE OF UNIT.

RIGHT. WE HAVE STUDIOS ONES AND TWO BEDROOM UNITS AT THE 80% LEVEL FOR THE STUDIO.

IT'S $1,100 ABOUT FOR THE ONE BEDROOM. IT'S ABOUT $1,300.

AND FOR THE TWO BEDROOM IT'S ABOUT $1,900 AT THE 80% LEVEL.

OKAY. AND THEN THE AVERAGE RENT DOWN. OR FOR THAT, THE MARKET RENTS, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF UNIT HERE, YOU KNOW, AT THE AT THE STUDIO LEVEL, IT'S ABOUT 1301 BEDROOMS, IT'S ABOUT 1502 BEDROOMS. IT'S ABOUT ALMOST $2,200. OKAY. I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS, I THINK.

I JUST WISH THERE WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE AFFORDABILITY IN THERE, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S PROBABLY A MIX OF TRYING TO BALANCE MARKET WITH WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN TERMS OF PROVIDING ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

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THERE IS A MIX. DEFINITELY. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BACK HERE TO OUR THIRD. RIGHT. OKAY.

SEEING NO ONE ELSE. OKAY. YOU JUMP. OKAY. YOU'RE BACK ON NOW.

GO AHEAD. MR. MULLINS, YOU GOT THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

JUST TO CLARIFY, THE $30 MILLION ABATEMENT THAT YOU WERE SHARING WITH THE COUNCILWOMAN.

THAT'S ONLY FOR 15 YEARS OF THE 75 YEAR ABATEMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO WE STILL HAVE 60 MORE YEARS OF ABATEMENT THAT IS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR IN THERE.

DID AARON DID YOU JUST SAY IT'S $1,500 FOR A ONE BEDROOM? AT MARKET RATE OR IS THAT 1300? YES, MA'AM. FOR ONE BEDROOM, THE MARKET RATE IS $1,482.

SO I WOULD JUST TELL YOU THAT WITHOUT GIVING ANY TAX ABATEMENT, YOU COULD GO RENT A TWO BEDROOM FOR $1,500 IN DISTRICT 12, AND THEY ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. AND THIS IS THE FINANCIAL CONCERN THAT I KEEP TALKING ABOUT.

SO. THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY, OVER HALF $1 MILLION IN OUR BUDGET CITY MANAGER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND. AND WHAT IT MEANS IS THAT FOR SOMEBODY WHO LIVES IN A MODEST HOME WITH A MODEST INCOME, THEY WILL BE SUBSIDIZING PEOPLE WITH A HIGHER INCOME JUST SO THEY CAN LIVE IN THIS PARTICULAR UNIT INSTEAD OF LIVING MAYBE IN DISTRICT 12 OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. EVERYONE'S WELCOME IN DISTRICT 12.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS, CAN ANYBODY UP THERE TELL US, DO YOU RECALL IN THE SIX YEARS I'VE SERVED ON COUNCIL, HAVE WE EVER TURNED DOWN AN HFC DEAL? I CAN'T RECALL ONE. I DO NOT RECALL. HAVE WE EVER TURNED DOWN A PFC DEAL? AS A COUNCIL? NO. THANK YOU. SO I HAD ASKED YOU IN THE HOUSING COMMITTEE TO PREPARE FOR THIS QUESTION, WHICH IS HOW MANY HFCS ARE IN OUR PORTFOLIO? HOW MANY PROPERTIES? THERE ARE 31 PROPERTIES, 31 HFC. AND I'D ALSO ASK YOU TO PLEASE CALCULATE THE TOTAL EXEMPTION OF REVENUE FORGONE FOR JUST ONE YEAR. OF THOSE 31 PROPERTIES, I BELIEVE THAT WAS ABOUT $6 MILLION.

FOR JUST ONE. SORRY FOR THE WHOLE PORTFOLIO. FOR ONE PROPERTY.

THE WHOLE PORTFOLIO. YEAH, I THINK IT'S ABOUT POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR.

POINT OF ORDER. WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF ORDER? THIS IS NOT GERMANE TO THE AGENDA ITEM.

WE HAVE TO STAY RELEVANT TO THE ACTUAL ITEM WE ARE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE.

AND TALKING ABOUT THE DEALS AND THE HISTORY OF THESE ITEMS IS NOT DIRECTLY RELEVANT TO THE ITEM THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE FOR STAFF.

KIND OF STAY CLOSE TO THE ITEM, PLEASE. YES, I BELIEVE THAT I AM, AND THAT WE MUST BE JUDICIOUS IN APPROVAL AND INSTEAD WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE JUST SAYING YES TO EVERY SINGLE THING THAT GETS BROUGHT HERE.

SO $6 MILLION IN REVENUE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE $6 MILLION EXTRA? I BELIEVE YOU HE WOULD CITY MANAGER. AND SO THESE ARE IMPORTANT DEALS.

LIKE I SAID, I HAVE VOTED YES ON EVERY ONE BUT ONE FOR THE HFC.

BUT I WOULD SAY TO MY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO MORE THAN JUST TALK ABOUT A BANNER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND YOU HAVE TO THINK DEEPLY ABOUT WHAT THE CITY ACTUALLY NEEDS.

SO WITH THAT THE TIF MONEY THAT'S IN QUESTION IS ONLY TO REPLACE WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LOST.

IT'S NOT ACTUALLY NEW DOLLARS. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN.

NARVAEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. DO WE APPOINT THE CITY COUNCIL, APPOINT THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT SERVE ON THE HFC? YES, SIR. AND SO THEY'RE OUR TRUSTED FOLKS THAT GIVE US FEEDBACK.

AND I'M GOING TO ASSUME. BUT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTOR CAN TELL US IS THAT THEY SUPER VET THESE PROJECTS.

THEY VERY WELL VETTED. THEY DO THE INITIAL UNDERWRITE OF THE DEALS, THEY LOOK AT THEM, THEY TALK WITH THE DEVELOPERS, UNDERSTAND THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES. AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD PARTY UNDERWRITER THAT ACTUALLY DOES ALL OF THE UNDERWRITING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROJECT, THAT THE EXEMPTION IS REALLY NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I WOULD WE SAY AROUND HERE ALL THE TIME, WE TRUST OUR BOARD MEMBERS,

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WE TRUST THE PEOPLE WE APPOINT. WE TRUST, WE TRUST, WE TRUST.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S THIS ONE WE DON'T KNOW.

NO, NO, THIS IS THIS IS WE HAVE GONE BEYOND AND TOO FAR.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. PEOPLE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

A $1,500 UNIT IN DEEP ELLUM VERSUS A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT AT $1,500 IN COLLIN COUNTY, ALMOST IN THE CITY OF PLANO, IS A MUCH, MUCH DIFFERENT PLACE TO LIVE.

NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE FAR AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN.

I DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN. FAR, FAR, FAR NORTH.

DALLAS. I'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, AND I LIKE IT.

I LIKE WHERE I LIVE, I LIVE JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE. AND YEAH, IT'S ABOUT THAT.

WHAT YOU JUST SAID FOR ONE BEDROOM. THAT'S ABOUT WHAT I HAVE TO PAY EVERY MONTH. AND IN ORDER TO HAVE THOSE FOLKS THAT THEY CAN LIVE THERE SO THEY CAN WORK, THEY CAN BE CLOSE TO WHERE THEY ARE, BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO DRIVE AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GET HERE OR OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOO FAR. I EVEN HEAR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THIS DAIS FROM WAY UP NORTH TALK ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO GET HERE TO CITY HALL, BUT THAT WAS A CHOICE. IT'S IF PEOPLE WANT TO CHOOSE TO LIVE WHERE A JOB THEY LIKE AROUND PEOPLE THEY WANT TO BE AROUND, THEY'RE GOING TO GO WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO, HEY, I GET IT. A LOT OF STUDENTS PROBABLY LIVE UP IN THAT AREA BECAUSE THERE'S A UNIVERSITY THERE. WHEN I WENT TO UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, I LIVED RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

WHY? BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A CAR AND I WAS GOING TO WALK. WALKABLE CITY RIGHT THERE BY THE 40 ACRES.

THAT'S THE SAME THING IN A BIG, GIGANTIC METROPOLIS LIKE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO TO JUST SAY APPLES. IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES.

THESE ARE APPLES AND ORANGES AND PEARS AND ALL OF THAT.

THE BIG FRUIT SALAD OF WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE.

YOU JUST HEARD THE COUNCIL MEMBER COLLEAGUES FROM DISTRICT TWO MENTIONED ABOUT WORKFORCE, AND THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO BUILD.

THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO PUT DEVELOPMENT. THAT MEANS WE'VE GOT TO GET IN NOW AND PUT THESE IN PLACE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

EVERY WEEK THAT WE VOTE ON THESE, WE GET TO HEAR ABOUT, OH, THE TAX, THE TAX, THE THE PROPERTY TAX, THE PROPERTY TAX, THE PROPERTY TAX. AND THEN EVERY WEEK I HAVE TO COME BACK AND REMIND FOLKS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE UNITS, THEY SPEND MONEY. SO YEAH, WE MIGHT BE LOSING $510,000 A YEAR ON THIS ONE IN PROPERTY TAX.

I CAN PROMISE YOU, WE'RE PROBABLY GETTING THAT OR MORE IN SALES TAX FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO EAT, THEY'RE GOING TO SHOP, THEY'RE GOING TO THEY HAVE TO BUY THINGS.

AND IF YOU'RE MAKING 40, 50, $60,000 A YEAR AND I KNOW 60, I'M SINGLE AND I KNOW 60 BECAUSE I SERVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU SPEND ALL YOUR MONEY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, BECAUSE 60 IS NOW POVERTY FOR A FAMILY OF THREE.

$80,000 FOR A FAMILY OF LIKE FOUR, I THINK IS POVERTY NOW IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO I GET I GET THE FISCAL HOTNESS THAT CONTINUES TO HAPPEN EVERY WEEK, AND I AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT IT'S LIKE, LET'S BE REAL HERE. IF YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO AFFORD AN APARTMENT, THEN JUST SAY IT AND DON'T USE ALL THIS OTHER STUFF BECAUSE I EVERY SINGLE WEEK I SAY EXACTLY WHAT I SAY, REFUTE THOSE ARGUMENTS, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACCURATE.

I'M NOT POLITICKING. I'M NOT TRYING TO GET ON THE NEWS.

I'M NOT TRYING TO DO ANY OF THAT AND NEVER HAVE.

BUT THAT'S WHAT SOME PEOPLE ON THIS DAIS ARE ALL ABOUT, IS THE POLITICS.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE ON THE ISLAND AND NO, ON THIS.

I NEVER HAVE BEEN WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND I AM PROUD OF THE RECORD THAT WE HAVE IN DISTRICT SIX ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM HFCS, PFCS, ZONING, ALL OF IT BECAUSE WE'RE COMMITTED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN MY DISTRICT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PROUD OF.

IF THEY'RE WORKING AND TRULY MEAN THEY WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN HSU. THANK YOU.

I KNOW WE NEED TO RAPIDLY WRAP THIS UP BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WAITING FOR US FOR A CELEBRATION THAT'S BEEN PUBLICIZED AND IS ALSO AN AGENDA ITEM.

SO I JUST VERY I WANT TO I WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BECAUSE THIS AFTER THIS VOTE AND FOR THE NEXT ONE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE TO BEAT THIS DEAD HORSE.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE READY FOR THE NEXT QUESTION IS WE'RE GOING TO ASK HOW MANY DEALS HAVE COME.

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SO WE IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE SAYING YES TO EVERYTHING, BUT THERE'S BEEN HUNDREDS POTENTIALLY THAT HAVE BEEN REJECTED.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE'D LIKE TO WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY UNITS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THROUGH THIS.

HOW MUCH IS THE. BUT I WILL ASK YOU JUST VERY QUICKLY BEFORE THIS VOTE, WHAT IS THE AVERAGE COST TO THE CITY FOR THESE UNITS THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING THROUGH THE FCS. YEAH. FOR THE HFC OVER THE 31 PROPERTIES AND ABOUT 7200 ISH UNITS, IT'S ABOUT $830 PER YEAR PER UNIT TO THE CITY.

OKAY. INVESTMENT. WELL, AND THAT'S. THANK YOU.

$800 A YEAR FOR EACH UNIT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIVES.

IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL ON MY PART AND MAYBE WHAT SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES NEED TO UNDERSTAND.

AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE NEXT ITEM, SINCE IT WAS PULLED BY SOMEBODY ELSE, IS CAN YOU PLEASE BE PREPARED TO EXPLAIN TO US IN DETAIL THAT WHAT THAT PUBLIC BENEFIT ANALYSIS IS THAT THAT CHAIR WEST MENTIONED, SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND THAT NOT ALL THE CITY'S INCOME NEEDS TO BE DEPENDENT ON TAXES, AND THAT THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT THE CITY HAS MONEY, THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN INVEST IN ITSELF WITHOUT DIRECTLY GETTING CASH IN THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES. SO I'D LIKE TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

I WILL FULLY SUPPORT THIS ITEM, AND I'D LIKE US TO PLEASE MOVE ON SO THAT WE CAN GIVE RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING FOR US DOWNSTAIRS.

MISS ARNOLD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. DID YOU CALL COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD? YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER.

IF WE COULD ON THIS PARTICULAR DALLAS DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, COULD YOU LET THE PUBLIC KNOW? HOW DO WE GET TO THIS POINT OF HAVING THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS BEING ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL? AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, WHAT STEPS COULD A FUTURE COUNCIL TAKE TO ACTUALLY STOP THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, OR I GUESS, AMENDED AND REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER SYSTEM THAT PROMOTES AFFORDABLE HOUSING? THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN OWNER, FOR THE QUESTION. I'M GOING TO HAVE ROBIN BENTLEY TO OPINE. I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME DUE DILIGENCE IN WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS FOR HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS.

LOOK AT HOW THE GOVERNANCE IS SET UP ON THOSE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS ENSURE THAT WE'VE PUT IN THE PROPER GUARDRAILS TO PROTECT THE CITY GOING FORWARD. BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE ROBIN TO OPINE FURTHER. I WANT TO JUST BE QUICK.

IS IT RELEVANT TO THE 75 YEAR ABATEMENT? THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M FOCUSING ON THAT SYSTEM HERE.

YES. THANK YOU. RIGHT. SO AS KIM SAID AND AS CHAIRMAN MORENO SAID, WE WILL BE BACK IN APRIL AT THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE TO TALK THROUGH POLICY GUARDRAILS, POLICY IDEAS. AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE POINT TO BRING ANY FEEDBACK.

AND AS CYNTHIA MENTIONED, WE RECOMMENDED NOT DOING THIS TYPE OF DEAL GOING FORWARD. WOULD YOU READ THAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

OH, SURE. LET ME PULL A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. SO AS THE CHAIRMAN SAID, WE'LL BE BACK IN APRIL AT THE HOUSING HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE TO TALK THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. HOW DO WE RETHINK THE WAY WE DO HFC AND PFC DEALS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TAXPAYERS ARE GETTING A GOOD DEAL FOR THEIR INVESTMENT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO VISIT IN APRIL, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

BUT WHERE I AM NOW IN THE EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE, I WILL SAY THIS.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A REQUEST, CITY MANAGER, FOR THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE UTILIZED AS IT RELATES TO THIS PROCESS ON BEHALF OF HOUSING. BUT I WANT TO CLOSE BY SAYING THIS HOUSING STAFF MEMBERS ECHO YOU.

I RESPECT YOU ALL AND YOUR WORK. IT DON'T GET ME WRONG ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THESE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE SEEN, ESPECIALLY OVER IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMMIT TO TRANSPARENCY, HONESTY AND RESPECT OF EVERYBODY WHO IS EVERYONE, EVERY DISTRICT WHO'S LOOKING TO US TO DELIVER, PARTICULARLY THE UNDERSERVED, UNDER-RESOURCED, UNDER-HOUSED COMMUNITIES.

I WILL CLOSE BY SAYING THIS. I TRUST THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT I PUT ON THE BOARD AND SOMETIMES THEY DON'T GET THEY DON'T GET TO CARRY ON THE WINNING TEAM.

BUT FOR THIS COUNCIL WHO SEEKS TO FOR GERMANENESS RELEVANCE ANY TIME, AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, ANY TIME WE TALK ABOUT TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, IT IS GERMANE, IN MY POSITION WHERE I WAS ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO SERVE THEM AND THEIR AGENDA. ANYTIME WE'RE SPENDING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DELIVER TO THAT COMMUNITY. TO BE FAIR AND HONEST, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT

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STANDING ON OUR OWN PERSONAL AGENDAS IN OUR EFFORT TO REPRESENT THE NEED.

AND SO I CLOSE BY THANKING YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

BUT ALL OF YOU AROUND THE COUNCIL, ALL 14 OF YOU WHO ARE SITTING HERE NOW, YOU HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ME TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT GOING TO LET THIS REST, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING IN THOSE COMMUNITIES WHO NEED US THE MOST.

AND IF THIS SYSTEM WORKS FOR US, FINE. BUT THE TAXPAYERS NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THEIR DOLLARS, AND WE NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO REPRESENT THEM IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY GET A FAIR DEAL AS WE REPRESENT THEM AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, WHETHER WE'RE CAMPAIGNING OR NOT. MAYOR, WE THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF ME AS A SPEAKER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I HOPE THAT HELPS YOU TO UNDERSTAND GERMANENESS AS IT RELATES TO TAXPAYERS DOLLARS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIRMAN MORENO.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'LL BE QUICK. I KNOW WE HAVE AN EVENT TO GET TO.

CYNTHIA, CAN YOU TELL ME THE WHAT SOMEONE'S INCOME IS AT 80% OF THE AM I? THOR IS BRINGING THE CHART OUT. HI. THOR ERIKSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. A FAMILY OF FOUR AT 80%.

AMI MAKES $88,250 OR LESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHEN WE'RE DOING THESE EVALUATIONS AND THE HFC'S ARE LOOKING AT COMPARABLES, ARE THEY LOOKING AT THE ADJACENCY OF THE APARTMENTS MARKET RATE FOR THOSE AREAS? I GUESS COULD YOU CLARIFY THE QUESTION? SURE.

SO IF SOMEONE IS LOOKING FOR A MARKET RATE APARTMENT RIGHT NEXT TO THIS PROPOSED SITE, WHAT IS THE GOING RENT FOR A ONE BEDROOM MARKET RATE? RIGHT. SO I BELIEVE THE MARKET RATE IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT SUB MARKET.

SO YOU KNOW THE SURROUNDING IMMEDIATE BLOCKS AREA.

AND WHAT IS IT FOR THAT AREA FOR DEEP ELLUM? I MEAN IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. FOR ONE BEDROOM, ONE BEDROOM, I THINK IT'S $2,200.

YEAH. SO I'M JUST DOING A QUICK SEARCH HERE. THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY.

ONE BEDROOM MARKET RATE $1,500. AND SO DO WE.

LOOK AT THAT. I THINK THE WHOLE IS TAKEN. IT'S HARD TO PICK AND CHOOSE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF EACH APARTMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT YES, WE DO TRY TO LOOK AT THE MARKET SURROUNDING IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS A COMPARABLE AND AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.

SO I'M GOING TO JUST CLOSE WITH THIS, GUYS, BECAUSE I KNOW WE GET OUT OF HERE AND WE HAVE THESE SAME QUESTIONS ON EVERY HFC DEAL THAT COMES THROUGH.

AND SO IT'S TIME THAT WE PUT IN THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROCESS IN PLACE.

AND NOW AND MAKE SURE OBVIOUSLY THAT OUR STAKEHOLDERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.

BUT WE'VE CLOSED THAT WINDOW NOW. AND IT'S TIME FOR, FOR THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION AND MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU.

AND IT'S EXACTLY WHY I BRING IT UP EVERY SINGLE TIME.

MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A RECORD VOTE.

AND ROBIN BENTLEY, I'D LIKE YOU TO OPINE ON WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THAT HAVING AN EXISTING COMPLEX WITH RESIDENTS ALREADY IN THERE AND NOW MAKING IT HFC, WILL THIS IMPACT OUR SALES TAX? I'M SORRY. LIKELY NOT. I MEAN, THE OCCUPANCY RATE WOULD BE THE SAME AND HOUSEHOLDS LIKELY WILL SPEND SIMILARLY IN THAT AREA.

SO PROBABLY NOT. AND THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY THINK DEEPLY ABOUT FINANCE.

THIS WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON SALES TAX. IT'S ONLY WHEN WE BUILD A NEW UNIT WITH NEW PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE LIKELY TO SEE AN INCREASE IN SALES TAX.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S VERY YES. BUT YET WE WILL LOSE HALF $1 MILLION OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.

THIS IS VERY TROUBLING. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT.

AND I DO REQUEST A RECORD VOTE. THANK YOU. OKAY.

WITH WITH THAT. THIS NO OTHER QUESTION WILL DO.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ALAN BAZALDUA. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE MAY BE FORGOING PROPERTY TAX.

AND WE I THINK WE CAN MAKE ANECDOTAL ASSUMPTIONS FOR WHAT SALES TAX SPENDING WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A DEEPER ANALYSIS THAT NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ACTUAL SPENDING AND SALES TAX CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY PRIORITIZING ON THE AFFORDABILITY.

WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR WORKING CLASS INDIVIDUALS, THEY BY AND LARGE CONTRIBUTE LARGER TO THE SALES TAX CONTRIBUTION.

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SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THESE ANECDOTAL ASSUMPTIONS ARE FAIR TO PUT ON THE RECORD AS AS ANYTHING WITH SUBSTANCE OR SIGNIFICANCE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. CYNTHIA, JUST BRIEFLY OR MAYBE THIS IS A ROBIN QUESTION WITH REGARD TO SALES TAXES. SOMEONE IS LIVING IN AN APARTMENT FOR WHICH THEY ARE COST BURDENED.

THEY'RE SPENDING OVER 30% OF THEIR INCOME. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, BECAUSE THE RENTS HAVE GONE DOWN, ACCORDING TO THIS PROJECT'S RENT ROLL, THEY NOW HAVE MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME TO SPEND ON GOODS AND SERVICES.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT? RATHER THAN HOUSING. I COMPLETELY HEAR YOUR YOUR ASSUMPTION.

WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY ANALYSIS ON THE SALES TAX.

THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA IS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANALYSIS ON THIS.

THAT'S A LOGICAL CONCLUSION, IS IT NOT? YES. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT, A RECORD VOTE HAVE BEEN CALLED.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE.

YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO, IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. I SAID NO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY.

YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT WITH 12 VOTING IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT.

THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. LET ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

WE GOT THEM PROGRAMS DOWNSTAIRS IN THE LOBBY.

I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME LUNCH THERE. IT MIGHT NOT BE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME.

I'M NOT FOR SURE. I CAN'T CONFIRM, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE LUNCH IN THE BACK.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, WE'LL GO DOWN THERE. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK HERE AT 1230 BECAUSE WE GOT TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM IN ORDER TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY.

EVERYBODY BACK HERE AT 1230. THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW BACK IN SESSION.

IS IT 1232? IT IS ALSO IS 1232. ON MARCH 26TH, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION

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551.07155, 1.072 AND 551.087 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MANNER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 52. OKAY. ALL LET US BE BACK AT 1:00. OKAY. IT IS NOW. EXCUSE ME.

IT IS NOW 1225. ONE, TWO. NOW. EXCUSE ME. IT'S NOW 123.

THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAD COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION AT 55017015510871.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AT 123 ON MARCH 26TH, WE HAVE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW PICK BACK UP ON YOUR PULLED ITEMS, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 24.

[24. 25-917A Authorize the Dallas Public Facility Corporation (DPFC) to (1) acquire, develop, and own The Humphreys, a 322 unit mixed-income, multifamily development to be located at 5339 Alpha Road, Dallas, Texas 75240 (Project); and (2) enter into a seventy-five-year lease agreement with Ethos Property Development, LLC (Applicant) or its affiliate, for the development of the Project - Estimated Revenue Forgone (75 Years of Estimated Taxes): General Fund: $127,165,063.00 (see Fiscal Information)]

ITEM 24, AUTHORIZE THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION TO ONE, ACQUIRE, DEVELOP AND OWNED THE HUMPHREYS, A 322 UNIT MIXED INCOME MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED AT 5339 ALPHA ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75240. PROJECT AND TO ENTER INTO A 75 YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH ETHOS PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, LLC. APPLICANT OR ITS AFFILIATE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.

YOU DO HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

MICHAEL GUERRA. YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

HELLO. MICHAEL GUERRERO WITH ATTICUS REAL ESTATE.

OKAY. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE MATTER.

YES. WE ARE HERE AS A GROUP TO TALK TO THE BOARD ABOUT APPROVING THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNERSHIP SIDE OF THE CURRENT OFFICE BUILDING LOCATED AT 5339 ALPHA ROAD.

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THE OFFICE CURRENTLY HOLDS THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY UNDER THE HUMPHREYS ARCHITECTURE FIRM, AND WE'VE BEEN IN THE BUILDING FOR 20 YEARS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS REDEVELOPING THIS SITE TO AS YOU STATED, 322 MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE AROUND THE DISTRICT 11 WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE'VE SPOKEN WITH DISD. WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE EMERGENCY SERVICES AND HAVE RECEIVED GREAT FEEDBACK ON THIS DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY WITH IT BEING A AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, ESPECIALLY WITH DISD AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, IS THAT AS SPECIFICALLY STARTING WITH FIRE IS WITH NEW RECRUITS AND NEW PEOPLE COMING IN, IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO FIND HOUSING THAT'S AFFORDABLE WITHIN THE AREA.

SO A LOT OF THEM ARE OUT IN ROCKWALL, UP NORTH AROUND THE MCKINNEY AREA, AND THE DRIVE FOR THEM IS DIFFICULT.

ALONG WITH THAT TEACHERS. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THE TEAM CAN, CAN GIVE YOU MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION REGARDING NUMBERS, BUT THERE ARE TEACHERS THAT ARE LEAVING DISD TO MOVE TO GARLAND AND OTHER AREAS WHERE THE COST OF LIVING IS LESS, BUT IT'S EASIER FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE MAKING LESS MONEY IN THOSE DISTRICTS, THEIR TRAVEL IS NOT AS FAR. IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE TEAM IS LOOKING TO PROVIDE THREE BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH IN OUR SURROUNDING AREA WITH OUR COMPS THERE IS A LACK OF THREE BEDROOM UNITS, WHICH IS BENEFICIAL FOR FAMILIES THAT WOULD BE GOING TO THE NEW MAGNET SCHOOL THERE IN DISTRICT 11. AND THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFIT TO THIS.

AGAIN, I'LL LET THE TEAM TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE NUMBERS, BUT WE FEEL THAT THIS WOULD BE A A GOOD.

LET ME REPHRASE THAT. A GREAT START TO REALLY GET THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT MOVING FORWARD AS WE LIKE TO CLAIM THE GATEWAY AS WE'RE LOCATED ON ALPHA, WHICH HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO NORTH AND SOUTH ON THE TOLL ROAD, WITH A THREE MINUTE DRIVE TO 635 TO GET EAST AND WEST.

AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S CONSIDERATION AND ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BRUCE MYERS. MY BROTHER TRACY.

THANK YOU. TREY. SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME.

IT WAS VERY CLOSE. I'VE HEARD MUCH, MUCH WORSE, SO THANK YOU.

HELLO. MY NAME IS TREY. I'M PART OF THE ETHOS DEVELOPMENT TEAM, WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD A 322 UNIT, FIVE STORY WRAP PROJECT IN THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT THAT'S GETTING PROPOSED FOR THE PFC PARTNERSHIP.

WE'LL BE BRINGING 162 OBTAINABLE AND AFFORDABLE UNITS TO THE DISTRICT.

AS OUR MARKET STUDY HAS SHOWED, THIS WILL ONLY SERVE 1% OF THE RENTAL DEMAND IN THE MARKET FOR THESE TYPE OF UNITS.

WE WILL HAVE A MIXTURE OF STUDIOS TO THREE BEDROOM UNITS, AS MOST OF YOU MAY KNOW.

THREE BEDROOM MULTI-GENERATIONAL HOUSING UNITS ARE VERY SCARCE IN THE AREA.

WE LEARNED THIS WEEK THAT 65% OF DALLAS ISD TEACHERS COMMUTE TO THEIR SCHOOLS, DUE TO THE HIGH COST OF LIVING HERE IN DALLAS, AND ONE OF THE HIGHEST REASONS FOR LEAVING THE DALLAS ISD IS TO IN EXIT INTERVIEWS IS BECAUSE OF THAT HIGH COST.

MANY TAKE LESSER PAID POSITIONS IN THE METROPLEX IN LOWER COST AREAS, CREATING MORE SPENDABLE INCOME THAN IF THEY WOULD REMAIN WITH THE DALLAS ISD. WE HOPE WE CAN DO OUR PART TO RETAIN SOME OF THESE BEST TEACHERS.

WHEN THE NEW MAGNET SCHOOL IS COMPLETED, A COUPLE OF BLOCKS TO OUR SOUTH.

THIS THIS IS A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE FOR A LOT OF OUR MIDDLE INCOME RESIDENTS HERE IN THE CITY.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO BRING THESE UNITS TO NORTH CENTRAL DALLAS, WHICH HAS A HIGH COST OF LIVING AND IS A PFC DESERT IN THE ENTIRE DALLAS PFC PROJECT PORTFOLIO. THERE'S ONLY ONE PROJECT WITHIN FIVE MILES OF US.

WITH YOUR PARTNERSHIP, WE WILL PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO LIVE IN THIS INCREDIBLE PART OF OUR CITY WHERE THESE RESIDENTS COULD NOT FIND HOUSING.

OTHERWISE, WE WILL OFFER THE HIGHEST DISCOUNTED RENTS IN THE DALLAS PFC PORTFOLIO, WELL OVER DOUBLE THE SECOND HIGHEST BASED ON A PER UNIT BASIS. WHETHER IT'S RETAIL SUPPORT STAFF, FIRE, POLICE, TEACHERS OR OTHER FOLKS, WE MUST PROVIDE ATTAINABLE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING

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FOR RESIDENTS WITHIN THE DALLAS INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT SO IT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS CAN CONTINUE TO THRIVE.

WE'RE PROUD TO PROVIDE OVER $1 MILLION IN REDUCED RENTS IN YEAR ONE, WHILE PROVIDING BY FAR THE HIGHEST DALLAS PFC PUBLIC BENEFIT OVER THE 75 YEARS OF $384 MILLION, OR THREE TIMES THE ANTICIPATED TAX REVENUE.

IF OUR PROJECT WAS A MARKET RATE DEAL, THE ANNUAL TAX RATE IS OVER DOUBLE THE CURRENT.

EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. THE AVERAGE LEASE, THE ANNUAL LEASE RATE THAT WILL BE PAID DIRECTLY TO THE CITY IS DOUBLE THE CURRENT TAX REVENUE, WITH THE PROPERTY REMAINING IN AN OFFICE BUILDING, AND THE PUBLIC BENEFIT IS OVER 3000 TIMES MORE THAN THE CURRENT ANNUAL TAX REVENUE.

AND AS HILLTOPS REPORT WILL CONFIRM, IT WOULD BE OVER EIGHT YEARS BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE A DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO ACCEPTABLE TO A LENDER.

WITHOUT THIS PFC PARTNERSHIP, THAT'S YOUR TIME.

OH, OKAY. WELL, WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. MR. MAYOR, THIS ITEM WAS ALSO PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

MR. SCHULTZ, YOU HAD A MOTION. SECOND I SEE MISS SHOES ON THE MIC FIRST.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE HOUSING.

OH. YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE SAME QUESTIONS.

WHAT WAS JUST SAID RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC BENEFIT ANALYSIS? LET'S START WITH THAT SO THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE CAN UNDERSTAND STAND.

WHAT IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT ANALYSIS? YES. SO I'LL ASK SAM TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT CALCULATION WORKS WITH THAT FORMULA IS.

HI, EVERYONE. SAM MCDANIEL, HOUSING STAFF. I WON'T YOU PULL THE MIC A LITTLE CLOSER.

IS THAT BETTER? OKAY, YOU GET BOTH THE HFC AND THE PFC CALCULATE THEIR PUBLIC BENEFIT THE SAME.

WE TAKE ALL MONIES RECEIVED BY THE CORPORATIONS, ADD THAT TO THE RENTAL SAVINGS, AND THEN WE DIVIDE THAT NUMBER INTO THE TOTAL PREDICTED TAXES POST DEVELOPMENT. IN THIS PROJECT'S CASE, WE HAVE A 98.57 PUBLIC BENEFIT PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS PRETTY HIGH.

AND THAT JUST INDICATES THAT IN RENTAL SAVINGS AND MONIES BACK TO THE CORPORATIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING 98% OF IT ESSENTIALLY BACK. AND THAT IS A THAT'S BASED ON IS THAT A 15 YEAR THAT'S THAT'S BASED OFF OF A 15 YEAR.

BUT I DID IT OFF OF BECAUSE IT'S MORE ACCURATE NUMBERS.

BUT I DID IT OFF OF THE 75 YEAR AND THAT'S A 97.66%.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT FOR THE AMOUNT OF TAX LOSS BASED ON A SPECULATED AMOUNT AND THAT AND THAT AMOUNT IS IS ASSUMING THAT IN THIS CASE, THE 127 MILLION OVER 75 YEARS, THAT'S ASSUMING THE SAME PRODUCT WOULD BE BUILT ENTIRELY AT MARKET RATE.

IS THAT WHERE YOU GOT THAT CALCULATION CORRECT? OKAY. SO ASSUMING THEY COULD EVEN GET THE FINANCING FOR THAT, THEN YOU TAKE THAT NUMBER AND THEN YOU TAKE OUT THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IN STRAIGHT CASH THROUGH FEES. AND YOU ADD TO THAT THE BENEFIT OF THE SAVINGS AND RENTAL, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PROVE AND WE'RE TRYING TO FULFILL AN AGENDA ITEM. THAT'S A POLICY THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY THIS COUNCIL.

IS THAT CORRECT? YOU ARE CORRECT. AND WHEN YOU GET TO THE 97 OR 98, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ALMOST ALL OF IT IS FULLY RECOVERED BY THE CITY IN THIS. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. OKAY.

SO THAT'S A PUBLIC BENEFIT ANALYSIS. SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD IS THAT ALL THESE DEALS KEEP GETTING APPROVED.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU, DIRECTOR, IS HOW MANY DEALS OR IT MAY COME TO AARON OR Y'ALL, HOW MANY DEALS ACTUALLY GET VETTED BY HFCS AND PFCS OR IN THIS CASE I GUESS JUST HFC.

I WANT TO STAY ON TASK. I'LL ASK JACKIE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SORRY. THE QUESTION WAS HOW MANY DEALS A YEAR COME TO YOU VERSUS HOW MANY YOU BRING TO US FOR THE PFC? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE THERE'S BEEN 14 DENIALS OVER THE LIFE OF THE PFC, BUT I THINK THE QUESTION WAS HOW MANY COME BEFORE THE BOARD? I'D SAY PROBABLY TEN WITHIN THE PAST YEAR HAVE WERE TURNED AWAY, HAVE BEEN TURNED AWAY.

YEAH. I'M ASKING HOW MANY 14 OF THE 14 HAVE BEEN REJECTED.

SO WHAT COMES TO US HAS ALREADY BEEN CLEANED.

I KNOW I SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME AND. OH, AND ONE LAST STATISTICAL QUESTION.

HOW MANY UNITS, HOW MANY UNITS HAVE BEEN ADDED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING INTO OUR CITY AS A RESULT OF THESE EFFORTS?

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DO YOU HAVE A TOTAL UNIT COUNT FOR PFC? AND WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING IT UP, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR USING YOUR LUNCH HOUR TO DO THIS.

THERE'S 1863 OF THE 14 THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

1863 PFC, PFC AND AND WHAT ABOUT HFC? I DID NOT HAVE TIME.

THIS IS SINCE THIS IS PFC. I'LL STAY ON TASK.

SO WE'VE GOTTEN 1800 NEW UNITS OF AFFORDABILITY ABILITY FROM THIS, AND I BELIEVE WE WERE TOLD THAT IT COST THE CITY 800 BUCKS A UNIT. TO TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU AMORTIZE ALL THE TAX AND ALL THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO FOR $800. THAT IS CORRECT. YES. THANK YOU.

SO THIS THIS PROJECT IS VERY INTERESTING. MY APPOINTEE TO THE PFC IS VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE FISCALLY.

AND IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT TURNS DOWN A LOT OF THE DEALS.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH HIM ON THIS TO UNDERSTAND IT.

AND WHAT HE SAID, THAT THE REAL THING THAT I NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, THIS MARKET RATE ASSUMPTION OVER A 75 YEAR TIME PERIOD PAINTS A DECEPTIVE PICTURE OF THE OVERALL VALUE OF THIS FOR ALL OF US.

SO WHEN WE SEE THAT WE'RE BASING IT ON SOME FANTASY, THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT IT ALSO MAY NOT BE TRUE.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.

THE TAX LOSS IS $10,000 A YEAR. THEY'RE PAYING $10,800.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE LOSING A TON OF MONEY.

THE OTHER THING IS, THE IDEA THAT THE CITY IS RECOUPING THROUGH THIS PUBLIC, PUBLIC BENEFIT IS A NEW WAY OF THINKING, I THINK FOR MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

AND SO IF WE WANT TO ONLY BE ABOUT CASH IN, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT AGENDA.

AND WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SOCIAL POLICIES, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T IMPROVE SOCIETY ONLY THROUGH CASH IN TO THE CITY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IS THIS WE WILL BE GETTING ABOUT $384 MILLION IN REVENUE.

AND SO IF THIS PROPERTY IS SOLD, IT WILL BE A HUGE ASSET FOR THE PFC TO HAVE OWNED.

WE'RE THE SO THE NET RETURN ON THIS SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEEDS EVEN THE MOST UNCHARITABLE ESTIMATES, EVEN IF YOU WERE TO BE THE MOST AFFORDABLE HOUSING ATTRACTS FURTHER INVESTMENTS AND DEVELOPMENTS.

THIS IS A BRAND NEW BUILD AND IF YOU SAW THE RENDERINGS FOR IT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT A CHANCE TO.

IT'S SPECTACULAR AND IT'S GOING TO REALLY BEGIN TO MOVE THE ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT FORWARD.

TODAY WE ACQUIRED THE PARK PARCEL. NOW WE'RE GETTING NEW HOUSING.

THERE'S OTHER NEW HOUSING BEING BUILT RIGHT UP THE STREET.

SO THIS IS REALLY PART OF ALL THIS DOMINO THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

AND I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES YOU WILL SUPPORT.

CHAIR MORENO IN HIS MOTION. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

WELL THANK YOU. IT'S ANOTHER PFC WHICH TRADITIONALLY I VOTE AGAINST SOLO.

WE HAD A VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION BEFORE OUR LUNCH BREAK ABOUT THE HFC.

AND SO FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS CLARIFY THE ADDRESS OF THIS PROPERTY.

IT WAS ACTUALLY LISTED TWO DIFFERENT ADDRESSES.

ONE WAS ON LBJ AT 5550. LBJ AND ONE WAS LISTED AT 5339 ALPHA.

THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS. 5550 IS ONE PROJECT.

THIS IS A 5339 ALPHA. OKAY. SO FOR THIS PROJECT, THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL GIVE UP HOW MUCH IN REVENUE ANNUALLY FROM PROPERTY TAXES. THE CITY IN ACTUALS OVER ANNUALLY IS 38,757. SO I HAVE IT DOWN AS 40,020, 24. THEIR YEAR IS UNDER PROTEST.

SO I'M STILL USING 2023 NUMBERS. DALLAS COLLEGE WOULD GIVE UP 6000 A YEAR.

DALLAS COUNTY 11,000. DALLAS ISD 55,000. IN PROPERTY TAXES A YEAR IN PARKLAND 12,000.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO THE PROBLEM WITH PEMFCS IS THAT WE'RE GIVING UP A 75 YEAR TAX ABATEMENT DOLLARS THAT WE NEED IN OUR REVENUE. THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND NOT GOING TO THE PFC FOR FEES, BUT FOR OUR REVENUE TO BE ABLE TO FIX OUR STREETS, PAY OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND DO ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT OUR RESIDENTS EXPECT OF US.

SO THIS HAS HOW MANY UNITS IN IT? THREE. 22. 22.

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YES. SO WE CAN EXPECT THERE'LL BE AT LEAST 400 RESIDENTS.

YES. AT LEAST CALLING MS. GOING TO OUR PARKS, USING OUR CITY SERVICES.

PEOPLE ON THE ROAD. AND HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT WHEN WE RECEIVE ZERO REVENUE? DOLLARS FOR 75 YEARS. WELL, AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THEIR REVENUES CAN BE USED IN THE FUTURE TO HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THESE COSTS, AS WELL AS REDEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF CITY POCKET. THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WILL BE HAVING.

SO AFFORDABLE HOUSING VERY IMPORTANT. BUT WHEN WE'RE GIVING UP THIS KIND OF MASSIVE, MASSIVE ABATEMENT AGAIN, 75 YEARS, WE CAN'T ONLY ACCEPT 50% OF THE UNITS BEING AFFORDABLE.

AND THAT'S WHY THE HFC IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOOL WHERE IT CAN ACTUALLY EXEMPT 100% AND MAKE IT PENCIL OUT.

AND THAT WAS VERY MUCH PART OF THE EARLIER CONVERSATION.

SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS WHY I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.

BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME MISSTATEMENTS. THE DOLLARS WILL NOT BE FULLY RECOVERED BECAUSE THE FEE INCOME THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED.

WILL THAT COME TO THE CITY OR WILL THAT GO TO THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION? IT WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION.

AND THE DOLLARS THAT THE RENTERS WILL SAVE FOR THE HALF OF THE UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE, WHICH I BELIEVE THIS IS AT.

80% AFFORDABILITY FOR 40% OF THE UNITS. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. IT GOES 5% OF THE UNITS, 60% AND 5% 50. SO THOSE RENTAL SAVINGS FOR JUST THOSE 200 UNITS WILL NEVER IMPACT THE CITY. THAT'S NOT REVENUE TO US.

IT'S SAVINGS FOR INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE. THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. AND ALL THE SERVICES, THE PEOPLE IN THAT PROPERTY NEED WILL BE BORNE BY THE EXPENSES OF ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS.

AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD IT.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH THAT CAN'T.

AND IT'S ANOTHER PROPERTY TAX INCREASE ON THEM, OR A REDUCTION IN OTHER SERVICES BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE TRADE OFFS.

AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT WHEN ONLY HALF OF THE UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE.

SO ONCE AGAIN, I'LL BE VOTING IN OPPOSITION TO THIS.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THE HOUSING RECOMMENDATION, THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COMMITTEE, SO THAT WE ARE ALLOCATING OUR EFFORTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN A MUCH MORE PRUDENT FISCAL MANNER.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. OKAY. AYES. CARRIES. NEXT ITEM.

OH. YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN? TOO LATE NOW. NO, NO, I JUST GOT TO LET YOU KNOW.

YEAH, OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE CONSENT.

[25. 25-907A Authorize a three-year cooperative purchasing agreement for the purchase of BlueDAG ADA compliance management hosted software solution for the Department of Information and Technology Services with SHI Government Solutions, Inc. through the Omnia Partners Cooperative agreement - Not to exceed $321,074.46 - Financing: Data Services Fund ($157,049.64) and Information Technology Equipment Fund ($164,024.82) (subject to annual appropriations)]

AGENDA. ITEM 25. ITEM 25 AUTHORIZE A THREE YEAR COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF BLUE DAG. ADA COMPLIANCE MANAGEMENT HOSTED SOFTWARE SOLUTION FOR DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES WITH GOVERNMENT SOLUTIONS, INC. THROUGH THE OMNIA PARTNERS COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT NOT TO EXCEED $321,074.46.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND. OKAY. MISS MENDELSOHN. YES. I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

ONE IS, CAN YOU TELL US THE NUMBER OF SOFTWARE PROGRAMS WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS? YOU CAN ESTIMATE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

I'M TANISHA DORSEY. I'M THE INTERIM CIO FOR INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES.

WE REPORT THAT WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 800 DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. 800. 800. YES. AND OF THOSE 800 SOFTWARE SYSTEMS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, ARE THERE NONE THAT COULD ACTUALLY DO THIS TRACKING OF ADA? BECAUSE, LIKE, EVEN AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET COULD PROBABLY DO THIS WORK.

YES. THAT IS ACTUALLY WHAT THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION USES RIGHT NOW TO DO THE TRACKING.

IT'S A VERY MANUAL PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE USING MULTIPLE SPREADSHEETS FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO COMPILE AND TRACK THAT INFORMATION.

THIS SOFTWARE, BLUE DAG, IS ONE OF THE LEADERS IN THE INDUSTRY SPECIFICALLY BEING ABLE TO RECORD AND TRACK ADA COMPLIANCE FOR

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FACILITIES. SO I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE BRITER AND A TRACK WORKING TO AUTOMATE THAT DATA, GOING INTO A SPREADSHEET FOR THEM, AND DOING SOME OTHER THINGS INSTEAD OF ADDING ANOTHER SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT WILL NEED ANNUAL UPDATES WILL NEED TRAINING FOR THE EMPLOYEES, AND WE JUST KEEP ADDING, I MEAN, 800, WE HAVE LIKE 13, 14,000 EMPLOYEES AT THIS POINT.

I MEAN, AT SOME POINT THAT RATIO IS UNTENABLE.

AND SO AGAIN, IT'S A SPECIALIZED PACKAGE FOR SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN AUTOMATED IN A DIFFERENT WAY IN MY OPINION.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR THAT. WE ARE DOING AN EFFORT TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS AND WHERE WE FIND THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE FUNCTIONALITY THAT MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS COULD USE. WE ARE RATIONALIZING THOSE APPLICATIONS.

WE ARE DECOMMISSIONING THE ONES THAT WE CAN TRANSFER THE SAME FUNCTIONS INTO A NEW SYSTEM.

AND WE ARE DEFINITELY THROUGH OUR IT GOVERNANCE PROCESS, LOOKING AT WHAT NEW TECHNOLOGIES WE BRING ON TO PREVENT DUPLICATION OF NEW SOLUTIONS.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT. YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE BEEN A BIG ADVOCATE FOR THAT EFFORT.

HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE MULTIPLE PLATFORMS FOR PAYMENT PROCESSING, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO CREATE UPDATES AND AND SECURITY FEATURES, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE TRAINED TO, TO WORK WITH THEM.

AND EVEN THE REPORTING OF THAT IS A WHOLE CUMBERSOME PROCESS FOR EACH PAYMENT PROCESSOR.

AND I JUST LOOK AT THIS AS SOMETHING THAT'S PROBABLY AN OVERPRICED SOFTWARE FOR SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY CAN MANAGE IN ANOTHER WAY.

SO THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. ATKINS. SO I'M GOING TO GO IN A DIFFERENT ROUTE.

I KNOW IN OUR BUDGETS EVERY TIME WE APPROVE THEM.

THERE'S SOME ON THIS COUNCIL WHO WANT TO SLASH, SLASH, SLASH.

AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE STAFF, STAFF, STAFF THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU CAN'T DO THE WORK BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOURS IN THE DAY, AND YOUR FINGERS CAN ONLY MOVE SO FAST.

IS THAT KIND OF ACCURATE FOR THE LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE ALLOW YOU TO HIRE? YES IT IS. OUR INTENT IN ITS IS TO EQUIP THE DEPARTMENTS WITH THE NEEDED TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY NEED TO IMPROVE AND BOOST THEIR PRODUCTIVITY.

SO WE DON'T DO TECHNOLOGY FOR TECHNOLOGY'S SAKE.

WE DEFINITELY TAKE THE LOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT PROVIDES A BENEFIT AND A VALUE.

IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BENEFIT FOR THIS ADA COMPLIANCE SOLUTION, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE STAFF.

I'M JUST REFERRING TO THE QUESTION EARLIER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE POLITICS IS IN PLAY AND I GET THAT.

AND SO IT'S LIKE, LET ME SHOW OFF AND ASK CERTAIN QUESTIONS AND MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT'S SO SIMPLE.

IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE BECAUSE OUR SYSTEMS ARE DIFFERENT.

THEY DON'T ALL SPEAK TO EACH OTHER. AND TO DO THAT IS GOING TO COST MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO HOUSE PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CUT THIS MUCH.

BUT I WANT YOU TO GET THIS DONE AND GET SOMEBODY TO TYPE IT ALL INTO AN EXCEL EXCEL FILE.

BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO HIRE SOMEBODY. THIS IS WHERE THE DISCONNECT IS, WHERE WE DON'T WHERE FOLKS DON'T HEAR WHAT IS REALLY BEING SAID.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY GIVE YOU SO MUCH.

I'M NOT AN IT EXPERT. SOMEONE ON THIS COUNCIL MAY BE.

I'M NOT. I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK YOU ALL DO A GREAT JOB.

YOU REPORT TO US, YOU TELL US WHAT YOU NEED, AND YOU CAN'T JUST SNAP YOUR FINGERS AND GET IT ALL CHANGED AT ONE TIME.

OR CAN YOU? I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE A MAGIC WAND THAT YOU ALL HAVE THAT YOU CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT? NO, SIR. OH, OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I KEEP HEARING THESE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER TO TELL YOU ALL HOW TO DO THINGS OR WHAT TO DO OR WHEN TO DO IT. AND THEN WHEN YOU ACHIEVE GOALS, IT'S STILL DISAPPOINTING.

WE STILL DIDN'T GET IT DONE. I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE IT THIS WAY, OR I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE IT THAT WAY.

LAST I REMEMBER WERE COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE SET POLICY.

WE DID NOT DO OPERATIONS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

SO THE POLICIES WORK THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

WE CAN AMEND THOSE. WE'RE NEVER GIVEN ANY KIND OF POLICY TO CHANGE FROM THOSE THAT SAY THE MOST.

AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU ALL DO, BECAUSE YOU ALL WORK HARD, YOU ALL CARE, AND YOU SHOULD BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT WHEN YOU'RE STANDING THERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. CAN WE DO MORE? YEAH, AND THAT'S ON US. THAT'S ON US TO NOT JUST COMPLAIN, BUT TO ACTUALLY GIVE YOU THE RESOURCES,

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TO GIVE YOU THE STAFF AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT REVENUE AND DON'T GIVE YOU THIS AND DON'T GIVE YOU THAT.

I WAS APPALLED TO HEAR THOSE PEOPLE MIGHT WALK THROUGH OUR PARKS, OUR RESIDENTS.

YOU'RE OUR RESIDENTS. YOU'RE OUR STAFF. YOU HELPED RUN THIS CITY DAY AND NIGHT.

AND IT ISN'T AS SIMPLE AS JUST, OH, LET ME FLIP A SWITCH.

IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THE SECURITY WE HAVE TO HAVE IN PLACE, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN THE WHOLE DEBACLE HAPPENED, WHO WAS THE CHAIR AT THAT TIME OVER ALL OF THAT ON THIS COUNCIL? OFFERED NO SOLUTIONS, JUST COMPLAINTS. SO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE KEPT US IN A PLACE WHERE WE NEED TO BE AND A PLACE WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE TO GO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT WAS AN INTERESTING RE-IMAGINATION OF THE TRUTH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.

YOU ARE NEW TO THIS ROLE, SO YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT IF YOU DO APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER, HAS YOUR DEPARTMENT INCREASED IN STAFF OR DECREASED IN STAFF? THE ACTUAL NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE, I DON'T BELIEVE OUR STAFFING HAS INCREASED.

I'M NOT CERTAIN, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE OUR NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED.

WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. LET'S HAVE YOU DO A MEMO OF WHAT YOUR STAFFING CHANGE HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS.

SIX YEARS, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SENDING THAT TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR A FRIDAY MEMO. THANK YOU. OVER SIX YEARS? POSSIBLY. SIR. IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND.

MAYOR PRO TEM? YES. IS THE QUESTION. THE CURRENT STAFFING OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THE TRENDS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING BECAUSE I DON'T I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN LINE WITH THE ITEM.

AND FRANKLY, IT HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OFF THE TOPIC, WHICH IS THE PURCHASE OF THE SOFTWARE FOR FAIR HOUSING.

THE IMPLICATION WAS THAT WE HAVE SOMEHOW DEFUNDED THIS DEPARTMENT, AND IT'S NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES NECESSARY, WHEN IN FACT THE DEPARTMENT HAS GROWN IN SIZE IN THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL.

AND SO TO REFUTE THE INACCURATE INFORMATION, I WOULD JUST LIKE A HISTORY OF THE STAFFING OF THE DEPARTMENT OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS, YEAR BY YEAR. THANK YOU.

WITH WITH THAT COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS. THANK YOU.

I'LL BE QUICK. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADA COMPLIANCE.

AND HISTORICALLY, THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS NOT BEEN GREAT AT THAT.

IN FACT, WE PUSHED TO RAISE OUR LIBRARY NUMBER IN THE BOND BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY LIBRARIES THAT ARE BEHIND ON ADA COMPLIANCE. SO IMAGINE THAT LIBRARIES WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T FAIRLY ACCESS THEM.

SO THAT'S JUST WRONG. SO I YOU KNOW, I'M THRILLED TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS OVERHAUL AND REALLY LOOK FOR DUPLICATION OR DEFICIENCIES ON WHERE WE CAN BRING OUR SOFTWARE TOGETHER. I HOPE SOMEDAY SOMEBODY WE'RE ALREADY CONTRACTED WITH BUYS THIS COMPANY AND ROLLS IT INTO THEIR SERVICES.

SO MAYBE WE WON'T BE PAYING AS MUCH. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, BESIDES THE MORAL IMPERATIVE, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A HUGE PORTFOLIO AND WE'RE BEHIND.

AND IF IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MORAL IMPERATIVE FOR YOU, IT COULD BE ABOUT THE LIABILITY IMPERATIVE FOR YOU, BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO AT RISK. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO COME AFTER THE CITY OF DALLAS AND SAY YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT YOU SHOULD ABOUT FAIR ACCESS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

AND SO, YEAH, SPREADSHEETS SOUNDS A LITTLE YESTERDAY.

SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS AND YOU KNOW, BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THE EFFICIENCY AND REDUCING DUPLICATION WHEREVER WE CAN IN DOING THIS TECHNOLOGY OVERHAUL.

THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. DULY NOTED, MR. MAYOR. NEXT ITEM.

MADAM SECRETARY, AGENDA ITEM 34.

[34. 25-938A Authorize a resolution to express the City of Dallas’ support for the full funding of Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) at the current one-percent sales tax level. - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

ITEM 34. AUTHORIZE A RESOLUTION TO EXPRESS THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SUPPORT FOR THE FULL FUNDING OF DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT DART AT THE CURRENT 1% SALES TAX LEVEL.

SO MOVED THIS. QUICK. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY.

IN THE COMMENTS, MISS CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO OPPOSE THIS ITEM BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES.

THIS DOESN'T NEED A RESOLUTION. WHEN WE WERE ADOPTING OUR LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM, THIS WAS AN ITEM I DID NOT AGREE WITH.

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AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A RECORD VOTE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN. I MEAN, CHAIRMAN WOOLMAN.

MENDELSOHN. ARNOLD. ARNOLD. I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU GO AHEAD AND PULL OUT? I NEED TO GET THE RESOLUTION IN MY HAND. OKAY.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COLLEAGUES, THIS WAS A IT IS A REDUNDANT THING THAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS.

AS FAR AS PASSING A RESOLUTION OR HOPEFULLY PASSING A RESOLUTION.

AT OUR LAST TRANSPORTATION AND JOINT MEETING WITH OUR DART BOARD APPOINTEES THE DEFUNDING OF DART, WHICH HAS BEEN PUT OUT THERE BY CERTAIN CITIES, MEMBER CITIES OF DART AND DART, WE ASKED, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU ALL ARE, BECAUSE WE HAD PUT INTO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA TO FULLY FUND 1% LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE.

LIKE THE VOTERS VOTED ON IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WHEN DART WAS CREATED.

THE VOTERS VOTED FOR $0.01 AND THEY SAID, THE DART SAID.

AND SOME OF OUR DART BOARD MEMBERS ARE HERE, THAT OUR VOLUNTEERS WORK FOR FREE, TO RUN ONE OF THE LARGEST TRANSPORTATION AGENCIES AND SERVE ON THAT BOARD. IT'S A LOT OF WORK, AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A HARD TIME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE CERTAIN CITIES WON'T LISTEN TO THEM.

AND I WANT TO APPRECIATE OUR DART BOARD MEMBERS FOR WHAT THEY DO BECAUSE WE WE WORK REALLY HARD TO PICK REALLY GREAT PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT TRANSIT. AND THEY RESPONDED AND SAID, COULD YOU ALL DO A RESOLUTION WHICH JUST RESTATES WHAT YOU DID PUT IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA SO WE CAN TAKE THAT DOWN TO AUSTIN AND SHOW SENATORS AND STATE REPS. AND WE HAD A VOTE BECAUSE A MOTION WAS MADE BY ONE OF OUR OUR COLLEAGUES ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, AND IT WAS PASSED 6 TO 1.

AND HERE WE ARE. SO OH, I'M SORRY. THEN WE HAD A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WHERE IT PASSED 5 TO 0 AND TWO WERE ABSENT WHEN VOTING. SO THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP FOR WORK THAT DAY.

AND NOW WE'RE HERE. SO ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS IT'S NOTHING DIFFERENT.

NOTHING CHANGED IN THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. IT IS LITERALLY DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE BELIEVE PASSED.

I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE PASSED THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA UNANIMOUSLY OR IF IT WAS 14 TO 1.

I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT WE PASSED IT. WE PASSED THIS PART AND WE HAVE SAID HOW STRONG WE SUPPORT DART BECAUSE DART IS IMPORTANT FOR ECONOMIC IMPACT, FOR GROWTH, FOR GETTING PEOPLE AROUND THE CITY AND INTO OTHER CITIES.

WE HAVE THE MOST RAIL, LIGHT RAIL LINES, MILES OF ANY CITY, ANY REGION IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES.

BUS ROUTES GO LINK. LOTS OF GOOD TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BEING CHANGED AS WE GO.

MICROTRANSIT. SO AS CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, I WANT TO COMMEND DART.

GETTING BETTER STILL WORK TO DO. JUST LIKE HERE IN DALLAS, WE'VE STILL GOT WORK TO DO IN OUR OWN BUILDING.

IT NEVER STOPS. AND WE MUST CONTINUE TO FULLY FUND DART AT $0.01 AND KEEP THE STATE LEGISLATURE OUT OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESS. AND WHAT WE DO TOGETHER WITH OUR OTHER MEMBER CITIES.

SO PLEASE VOTE YES. AND LET'S KEEP FIGHTING FOR DART.

THEY'VE BEEN GOOD PARTNERS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN. RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN NARVAEZ THAT IT'S AN APPROPRIATE STEP TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION.

WE MAY HAVE INCLUDED IT IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, BUT THAT'S OVER THREE MONTHS AGO.

THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS REFLECTED IN THE NEWS MEDIA ABOUT THE POSITIONS OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN MEMBERS CITIES, AND I THINK IT'S JUST APPROPRIATE THAT WE REITERATE OUR STRONG SUPPORT FOR DART AND OUR OPPOSITION TO DEFUNDING IT.

CHAIRWOMAN, SHOOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THIS AND I WON'T.

I ECHO, BUT WILL NOT REITERATE MY COLLEAGUES SO FAR.

BUT I WILL ADD THAT WE HAVE BEEN EDUCATED SINCE THE DAY I WALKED ON THIS COUNCIL ABOUT PROCESS AND PROCEDURE.

AND WE HAD A COMMITTEE PROCESS THAT ASKED US TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION.

SO THIS IS THE PROCEDURE TO DO SO. AND I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

THIS IS THE TIME MORE THAN EVER TO SHOW OUR UNITY IN SUPPORT OF DART AS AS IT'S UNDER ASSAULT.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OUT OF ARIZONA.

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THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WILL ALSO NOT BELABOR, BUT BUT I WANT TO REITERATE THE SUPPORT FOR DART.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR DART BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE, THAT REPRESENT THE CITY.

AND, AND OTHER CITIES AS WELL, ON THE ENTIRE BOARD FROM THE CHAIR THAT'S HERE.

I KNOW WE HAD THE CEO HERE AS WELL. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE ARE A MEMBER CITY OF A REGIONAL ENTITY. WE HAVE TO PLAY TOGETHER. WHAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE IS DIVISIVE RHETORIC THAT IS MAKING IT HARDER FOR US TO ACTUALLY BE PRODUCTIVE AND EFFECTIVE AS A REGIONAL ENTITY.

I HAVE FULL SUPPORT FOR DART, JUST AS OUR BODY HAS SAID.

YES, IT IS IN THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR THESE OTHER MEMBER CITIES WHO ARE TRYING TO GO ROGUE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE D IN DART STANDS IN THIS ISSUE. WE ARE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT IS A REGIONAL ENTITY, AND IT IS MEANT TO CONNECT US AS A CITY OF OF THE REGION, AS THE HUB.

WE ARE WHO HAVE A LOT OF THE, THE JOBS, FOR INSTANCE, AND WHY WE SEE WHERE THERE IS A NEED FOR CERTAIN ROUTES.

I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT HERE.

WE HAVE WE HAVE ESSENTIALLY TASKED OUR DART BOARD REPRESENTATIVES WITH HERCULEAN TASKS.

WE HAVE TO PICK UP SOME OF THIS HEAVY LIFTING AS WELL.

AT THE CITY. AND WE NEED TO TELL OUR FRIENDS IN THE SUBURBS SURROUNDING US THAT ARE A PART OF THIS ENTITY WITH US, THAT WE NEED TO BE AT THE SAME AT THE TABLE. WE NEED TO HAVE A SOLUTION GOING FORWARD.

FULL FUNDING FOR DART DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T DRAW FUNDING BACK IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE THOUGHTFUL FOR WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.

WE ALSO HAVE SUBURBS AROUND OUR METROPLEX THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN THE NETWORK OF DART.

WE NEED TO EXPAND. WE DON'T NEED TO DRAW BACK.

SO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES OF RECRUITMENT WITH THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO OFFSET WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A DRAWBACK FOR MEMBER CITIES IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE SERVICES THAT DART IS ALREADY OFFERING AND PLANS TO OFFER IN THE FUTURE.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO TELL THE PUBLIC THAT WE HAVE A PATH FORWARD.

AND SO SUPPORTING FULL FUNDING DOESN'T SAY THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE TO DRAW BACK.

BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE FOCUSED ON SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND HEARINGS DOWN IN AUSTIN, THE LEGISLATORS HAVE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THIS FUNDING, IF IT WAS DRAWN BACK, IS STILL USED FOR TRANSIT.

SO WE DON'T GET CARTE BLANCHE. WE DON'T GET TO JUST GO YOU KNOW, ROGUE, AS THESE OTHER SUBURBS HAVE TRIED TO DO AND AND JUST GET A PAYDAY IN RETURN. WE WANT TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SERVICES.

WE WANT TO HAVE GOOD MASS TRANSIT. WE WANT TO CONNECT COMMUNITIES.

AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH SOME FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS MOVING FORWARD.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE MUCH MORE SUCCESSFUL IN RECRUITING OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO HELP US GET TO THAT PLACE.

IF WE'RE DOING IT HAND IN HAND WITH THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY MEMBERS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH A SOLUTION LIKE THAT IN DISARRAY, WE CANNOT EXPECT TO HAVE A GOOD OUTCOME.

SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS RESOLUTION. I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF OUR BODY STANDING STRONG WITH DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN. GRACEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL MAKE THIS, VERY BRIEF AGAIN. I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND AGAIN PUBLICLY.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CHAIR. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, FOR HIS WORK AND ALL OF THIS.

FROM ALL OF US ON FROM THE WORK THEY TOLD ME TO SAY FROM THIS SIDE OF THE HORSESHOE, BUT WE SEEING WE WE WE, WE ALL APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE THIS IS A HEAVY CARRY FOR THAT.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK OUR DART BOARD FOR DOING THAT AND MAKING SURE AND THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

IT'S NOT ABOUT JUST THAT $0.01, IT'S THAT TOO, BUT IT'S ALSO ENSURING AND SHOWING THE PEOPLE IN DALLAS AND THE SURROUNDING CITIES THAT BOTH OUR DART REPRESENTATIVES AND OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

AND THEN FINALLY, WHAT WE STAND TO LOSE IF WE DON'T SUPPORT THIS.

AND THAT'S THE PIECE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, TOO. AND THIS IS REALLY ABOUT ENSURING THAT SOUTHERN DALLAS AND ALL OF THE AREAS RECEIVE THE SAME SERVICES. JOBS ARE KEPT IN PLACE AS WELL AND WE ARE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THIS.

SO THANK YOU TO OUR DART BOARD FOR REPRESENTING US.

THANK YOU TO CHAIR NARVAEZ FOR THIS AND ALL THE CITY COUNCIL WHO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS.

UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS THERE.

AND I CAN ONLY LOOK FORWARD TO HOW THIS ONGOING COMMUNICATION, THIS CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION SO THAT WE DON'T FIND OURSELVES IN THIS PLACE AGAIN WE

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CAN BE PREPARED TO, TO PREVENT THESE TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS FROM HAPPENING.

BUT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP IN GETTING US TO THIS POINT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD.

THANK YOU. I MIGHT NEED ALL OF THE MINUTES THAT ARE AFFORDED TO ME.

MAYOR, STARTING HERE. NOW, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER NAMES COME UP.

WHAT WE'RE FINDING OFTENTIMES IS WE WORK AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

TO CITY MANAGER, I WILL SAY THIS TO YOU IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HANDLE ON HANDLE UP ON OUR BUSINESS AROUND THE HORSESHOE, BUT THE MESSAGE DOES NOT GET TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE MUST WORK HARDER AND BE MORE COMMITTED TO SEEKING AVENUES SO THAT WE CAN GIVE THE MESSAGE AND THE EDUCATION TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING SOMETIMES, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW. AND SO THEN WE GET THE QUESTIONS, WHAT'S GOING ON? DART IS ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES. I DO SUPPORT THE WORK THAT CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ AND THE COMMITTEE HAS DONE.

HARD WORKERS. NUMBER ONE, WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE DARK MONEY THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE AS A DISTRICT EARLY ON FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WHERE WE'VE NOT GOTTEN THAT FROM DISTRICT FOUR, WE HAVE NO IDEA. AND THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF THIS PROCESS OF MY SUPPORT.

BUT TODAY, ON THIS RESOLUTION THAT THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT HAVE, I WILL JUST SIMPLY HIT ON A FEW POINTS.

SEPTEMBER 2000, VOTERS WITHIN THE 13 CITY DART SERVICE AREA APPROVED A REFERENDUM TO USE THE 1% SALES TAX COLLECTIONS TO SUPPORT ISSUANCE OF LONG TERM BONDS TO UPGRADE AND ACCELERATE EXPANSION OF THE TRANSIT NETWORK.

AND AS I MOVE DOWN, DART PROVIDES A CENTRAL PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICES THAT CONNECT DALLAS RESIDENTS TO EMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE GREATER NORTH TEXAS REGION, AND CONNECT OTHER RESIDENTS OF THE GREATER NORTH TEXAS REGION TO EMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT GOES ON TO DISCUSS THE NORTH TEXAS ECONOMICS RESEARCH GROUP.

IMPACT. ECONOMIC IMPACT ON DEVELOPMENTS. TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS NEAR DART STATION.

ACCORDING TO THE 2023 STUDY. DOCUMENTING DEVELOPMENT VALUE OF $17.1 BILLION BETWEEN 1999 AND 2021.

SO WE UNDERSTAND AS A CITY, WE DESIRE AN EFFECTIVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE KNOW THAT THE DART BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO ENHANCE COLLABORATION BETWEEN DART AND ITS MEMBER CITIES.

SO WE ARE THEREFORE, AS A CITY, SUPPORTING FULL FUNDING OF DART AT THE CURRENT $0.01 LEVEL TO ENABLE DART TO MAINTAIN AND EXPAND SERVICES WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE GREATER NORTH TEXAS REGION.

SO WE ARE RESOLVING POSSIBLY WITH THIS VOTE TODAY, THAT WE KEEP THE 1% SALES TAX LEVEL, URGING LOCAL, REGIONAL AND STATE GOVERNMENTS TO PRIORITIZE SUSTAINED INVESTMENT IN THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM TO ENSURE ITS LONG TERM VIABILITY AND SUCCESS. AND SO THIS COPY IS GOING TO BE TRANSMITTED TO THE DIRECTORS, THE STATE LEGISLATOR, LEGISLATURE AND OTHER RELEVANT STAKEHOLDERS. AND SO TODAY, WITH THE VOTE, THIS RESOLUTION SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY FROM AND AFTER ITS PASSAGE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND IT IS ACCORDINGLY SO RESOLVED. SO WHERE WHERE AM I GOING WITH THIS? I DO SUPPORT DART. I SUPPORT DART NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE CONSTITUENTS WHO SOMETIMES WE DESCRIBE AS THE WORKING POOR, WHO NEED THE BUS OR THE MOBILITY. BUT THERE ARE SOME WHO ARE NOT THE WORKING POOR.

IT IS AN EFFICIENCY. BUT I'M ONE OF THOSE WHO WERE BROUGHT UP ON THE BUS, VERY COMFORTABLE ON THE BUS, EXCEPT WHEN I CAME UP. OF COURSE, WE HAD TO RIDE ON THE BACK OF THE BUS, BUT I KNOW HOW TO MOVE FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT.

AND SO NOW, AS I UNDERSTAND THE WOES OF BEING ABLE TO GET TO AND FROM WORK TO AND FROM TO THE HOSPITAL, JUST TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE. WE NEED DART.

I IT PAINS ME TO SEE PEOPLE WALKING DOWN THE STREET WITH BAGS OF GROCERIES FROM THE BUS STOP, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. BUT I WANT DART.

IF YOU'RE HERE TODAY TO UNDERSTAND THIS, I WILL FIGHT FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE DART, AND WE HOPE THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS, CITIES WHO ARE LAUNCHING OUT AT US OR LASHING OUT WITH THOSE NEGATIVES ABOUT WHO'S RIDING THE BUS AND BRINGING

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THE DALLAS, BRINGING THE TRASH TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

IT'S OFFENSIVE. IT IS OFFENSIVE. BUT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT $0.01.

AND SO I SEE I HAVE 10S AND I WANT TO COME BACK IF NO ONE IS HERE, BECAUSE I HAVE TO MAKE SURE I GIVE THIS MESSAGE TO YOU.

DART FROM OUR PASTOR, PASTOR FREDDIE HAYNES, THINGS IN TERMS OF DART AND HOW IT'S AFFECTING US.

YOU WANT TO DO? YES, SIR. NEXT ROUND. HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND.

SEE ANYONE ELSE? YOU CAN DO YOUR NEXT ROUND. THANK YOU.

SO WE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM OUR COMMUNITIES ABOUT THE CUTBACKS THAT WE HAD TO THAT YOU MADE IN PREVIOUS YEARS THAT IMPACTED SOME OF OUR WORKING POOR. PASTOR FREDERICK DOUGLAS HAYNES AND FLORA.

FLORA WEBB ON THE FRIENDSHIP WEST CAMPUS ON KIEST BOULEVARD HAVE A CONCERN.

BECAUSE THE CUTS THAT WE HAD TO MAKE THAT YOU HAD TO MAKE, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT IMPACTED THEIR SERVICE NETWORK.

AND SO THOSE WHO NEEDED THE SERVICE ON KEYSTONE WERE DENIED THE SERVICE BECAUSE OF THE CUTS.

SO I TOLD PASTOR HAYNES, I'M GOING TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT.

I'VE ALREADY SHARED THAT WITH CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ THAT THE LETTER WAS COMING.

THE CONCERNS ARE COMING, BUT I HAVE TO BE A COUNCIL MEMBER OF MY WORD.

WE MUST CONTINUE. YES, TO SUPPORT DART. BUT WE MUST BE MORE FOCUSED AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THOSE GRIDS ARE SOLID. THE NETWORK IS SOLID. SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET SERVICES FOR MENTAL HEALTH, EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, EMPLOYMENT TRAINING, WHATEVER THE NEEDS, TRYING TO GET FROM THE AIRPORT AT LOVE FIELD TO FEED THEIR FAMILIES LATE AT NIGHT, THAT IT WORKS. AND SO WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE THIS VERY VALUABLE SOURCE.

BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE ALL OF YOU AROUND THE HORSESHOE UNDERSTAND MY THREE MINUTES ON THIS ROUND.

AND WHETHER YOU DO OR NOT, I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MY DISTRICT.

SO THE FRIENDSHIP WEST CHURCH PASTOR, FREDERICK HAYNES, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE RECORD TODAY, THAT WE NOT OVERLOOK THOSE COMMUNITIES WHO NEED US THE MOST.

AND SOMETIMES WE DO THAT AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

MAYBE NOT INTENTIONALLY, AND SOMETIMES I THINK WE DO.

BUT TODAY I SUPPORT DART, BUT WE WANT DART BOARD MEMBERS TO BE THERE, STRONG FOR DALLAS THOSE THAT YOU ARE HERE FOR DALLAS.

AND IT'S NOT JUST A SEAT TO SIT IN AND THAT YOU ARE COMMUNICATING WITH THOSE OF US ON THE BOARD.

WE DON'T HAVE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS, BUT I'M SIMPLY SAYING IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND EVEN THIS MUCH IF YOU HAVE DART BOARD.

DART BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE NEVER RIDDEN THE BUS AND NEVER BEEN ON A BUS TO GO DOWN ON MARCELLUS MOSS, AS SOMEONE SAID ONCE MARCELLIS I KNEW AT THAT POINT WHEN THEY WERE ON THE DART BOARD, THEY HADN'T BEEN ON THE BUS. YOU GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, KNOW THE IMPACT OF HAVING THIS SERVICE. SO I PROUDLY SUPPORT DART, BUT WE HAVE WORK TO DO. DARK MEMBERS, YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR GLOVES ON WITH THIS FIGHT.

AND I DO HAVE A SONG. SOMEONE SAID YOU ALWAYS LISTEN TO A LOT OF SONGS, BUT I THINK IT'S A NEW SONG THAT SAYS THIS.

THEY MIGHT NOT LIKE IT, BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP ON STEPPING.

THEY MAY NOT LIKE IT, SO WE NEED TO KEEP ON STEPPING ON BEHALF OF THOSE CITIZENS WHO NEED US THE MOST.

SO, MAYOR, THAT'S MY THREE MINUTES. YOU'RE GOING INTO YOUR ONE MINUTE.

THAT'S FINE. SO MY THREE MINUTES ARE FIGHTING FOR ONE MINUTE NOW.

SURE. DO I WANT TO DO THAT? SO I'M GOING INTO MY ONE MINUTE.

FIGHTING FOR THE $0.01 SALES TAX FOR DART. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

AND I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I'M VERY, VERY SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AROUND THE HORSESHOE CITY MANAGER THAT WE WORK ON A SYSTEM THAT REALLY ROLLS OUT INFORMATION TO OUR PUBLIC IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT FOR. MAYOR, I'M CONCLUDED AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS FROM DARDEN AND THANK GOD FOR THAT RESOLUTION.

AND ALSO, I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN DAVIS. YOU KNOW, WE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH DARDEN.

I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRAIL TO TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT ALL IN FAVOR, MR. MAYOR? RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN CALLED.

VOTE HAS BEEN TAKEN. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MORENO. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

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NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RIDLEY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. YES, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.

YES. MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT. WITH 13 VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT. THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

YOUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 38. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM 38 IS AUTHORIZED A FIVE YEAR MASTER AGREEMENT WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS FOR THE PURCHASE OF

[38. 25-845A Authorize a five-year master agreement, with two, one-year renewal options, for the purchase of unleaded and diesel motor fuels for the Department of Equipment and Fleet Management - Atlantic Petroleum & Mineral Resources, Inc., Offen Petroleum LLC, Campbell Oil Company, Indigo Energy Partners, LLC, Ports Petroleum Company, Inc., Ricochet Fuel Distributors, Inc., Sunoco, LLC, and TACenergy LLC, lowest responsible bidders of eight - Estimated amount of $80,483,118.70 -Financing: Equipment and Fleet Management Fund]

UNLEADED AND DIESEL MOTOR FUELS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EQUIPMENT AND FLEET MANAGEMENT, ATLANTIC PETROLEUM AND MINERAL RESOURCES, INC., OFTEN PETROLEUM LLC, CAMPBELL OIL COMPANY, INDIGO ENERGY PARTNERS, LLC.

PORTS PETROLEUM COMPANY, INC.. RICOCHET FUEL DISTRIBUTORS, INC..

SUNOCO LLC AND TAC ENERGY LLC. LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS OF EIGHT.

ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $80,483,118.70. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOVE. APPROVAL.

SECOND. A SECOND. DEPUTY MAYOR. DO YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS? YEAH. I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE MADE THAT MOTION SINCE I PULLED IT. I WILL THOUGH, AMEND.

I'M GOING TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

I'D LIKE TO ADD A DIRECTIVE TO THE CITY MANAGER TO REPORT ANNUALLY IN APRIL TO THE PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE ON THE CITY'S PROGRESS WITH CAP POLICY REGARDING THE CITY'S FLEETS. SECOND. THANK YOU.

A MOTION AND A SECOND. NO. IS THERE A REPORTING? YOU WANT TO REPORT IT? YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, IS THAT IN YOUR MOTION YOU WANT TO SAY? IT IS IN MY MOTION. WE NEED A SECOND. THEN I GOT A SECOND.

YEAH, I GOT A SECOND. OKAY. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.

CAN I SPEAK? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF. THANK YOU TO DONZELL FOR FOR YOU.

I KNOW THAT THAT THE COLLEAGUES ARE PROBABLY GOING TO WONDER WHAT WHAT IT WHAT IT WAS THAT I'M WANTING ON THIS.

WHAT I DON'T WANT IS JUST A ANOTHER DIRECTIVE THAT THAT IS NOT TRULY AN OVERSIGHT MECHANISM.

I WANT TO PUT IN AN OVERSIGHT GUARDRAIL MECHANISM FOR US TO HAVE THE ABILITY, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE APPROVING A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT AND A LARGE AMOUNT.

IT DOESN'T, OF COURSE, HAVE TO BE ALL SPENT. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THERE IS A CLEAR DECLINE OF WHAT WE ARE PUTTING YEAR OVER YEAR TO THIS EFFORT. THIS IS A VERY LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND A LARGE CONTRACT FOR, ESSENTIALLY SUPPORTING FOSSIL FUEL. WE HAVE CAP GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN, AND WE HAVE SAID NOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL FOR SIX YEARS, THAT IT IS A PRIORITY OF US TO TRANSITION OUR FLEET FROM GAS DEPENDENT TO ELECTRIC VEHICLES. I KNOW THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO TO TO GO, YOU KNOW, FULL THROTTLE PUN INTENDED.

I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY BEYOND THE APPROPRIATIONS OF BUDGET SEASON TO ISSUE OUT TRANCHES, IF YOU WILL, YEAR OVER YEAR.

SO, DENZEL, DO YOU MIND SPEAKING TO JUST THE HIGH LEVEL INFORMATION ON WHAT THE CONTRACT IS THAT YOU ALL HAVE NEGOTIATED? ABSOLUTELY. DENZEL GIBSON, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO START WITH CAP. THE. THE FLEET DEPARTMENT IS 100% BEHIND CAP AND HAS BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY TO APPLY FOR GRANTS AND LOOK AT ALL AVENUES POSSIBLE TO KEEP THAT INITIATIVE MOVING FORWARD.

I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, AND I DON'T DO THIS OFTEN, BUT THE MORNING NEWS ACTUALLY RAN AN ARTICLE EARLIER THIS WEEK SUGGESTING THAT WE WERE AHEAD OF THE CURVE. RIGHT? THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS ACTUALLY A LEADER IN THIS SPACE.

AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE THAT I WANT TO PROVIDE HERE IS JUST THIS TRANSPARENCY RELATIVE TO THE SPEED AT WHICH THESE THINGS HAPPEN, RIGHT. AND I SHARE THAT WITH YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TODAY. AND IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE CONTRACTS AND MECHANISMS TO BUY ELECTRIC VEHICLES TODAY.

AND NOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF POST COVID, WE CAN DO THAT RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

RIGHT. WE HAVE A TEN YEAR CONTRACT THAT COUNCIL APPROVED WITH FORD MOTOR COMPANY TO BUY ALL THE ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO CHARGE THOSE SAME

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VEHICLES THAT NOW WE'VE GOT MORE READY ACCESS TO TO BUY THAN EVER.

THE CHALLENGE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS IS AND NOT TO THROW ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS, BUT OUR PARTNERS AT ONCOR AND TXU, THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE POWER SOURCE FOR THESE VEHICLES.

THAT PROCESS AND THAT EQUIPMENT IS STILL POST COVID WORLD.

WHETHER THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THOSE TRANSFORMERS THAT ARE REQUIRED, ESPECIALLY THE ON THE GROUND ONES, HAVE A 12 MONTH LEAD TIME. AND THAT'S NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR APPLICATION IN, AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR SITE PLANNING, AFTER ALL THE REVIEWS AND ALL THE PERMITS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.

WHAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY IS, IS THAT WE ARE ON TRACK WITH CAP.

WE'RE ON TIME, WE ARE ON SCHEDULE AND THINGS ARE MOVING.

WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. SO THANK YOU. NOW THIS CONTRACT THAT YOU ASKED ABOUT.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. YEAH. I REALLY WANTED YOU TO ANSWER MY QUESTION.

BECAUSE YOU'RE GIVING CONTEXT THAT IS IS INSINUATING THAT I MADE THIS MOTION WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH.

IT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. I SAID, I WANT TO SEE US DO MORE.

AND AND THAT'S WHAT. WHERE? THAT'S THE MESSAGE I HOPE THAT YOU TAKE FROM THIS.

I ABSOLUTELY WE CAN COUNT OUR WINS. THAT'S GREAT.

THE REALITY IS, IS IF WE DON'T ALLOW FOR SOME OF THESE OVERSIGHT METRICS TO BE COUPLED WITH ASKS THAT STAFF HAS GIVEN US, THEN WE AREN'T SEEING HOW THE NEEDLE IS MOVING.

CERTAINLY. AND SO I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING TANGIBLE INSTEAD OF A BLANKETED FIVE YEAR CONTRACT THAT YEAR OVER YEAR, WE SEE THAT THE NEED OUT OF THIS MULTIYEAR CONTRACT IS SLOWLY DIMINISHING.

AND IF THERE IS LESS OF A NEED FROM $1 AMOUNT TO THE NEXT YEAR, WHERE WE GO A LITTLE BIT LESS TO THE NEXT YEAR, GO A LITTLE BIT LESS, AND WE SEE THAT THAT CORRELATES WITH A CONVERSION OF DIFFERENT GAS DEPENDENT FLEET.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR US TO HAVE. THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO ADDRESS STAFF'S OVERSIGHT ON ANY ISSUE.

THIS IS JUST EMPHASIZING OUR PRIORITIZATION OF OUR CAP, PLAN AND GOALS, AND WANTING TO KEEP A GUARDRAIL OF OVERSIGHT ON A VERY LARGE CONTRACT THAT WAS PUT ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.

SO CITY MANAGER, OF COURSE. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

AND I'LL JUST I'LL JUMP IN AND DENZIL, PLEASE JUMP IN IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I MISSED.

SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE DEFINITELY CONTINUING THE EFFORTS AROUND THE PRIORITY OF CAP, AS YOU'VE STATED AND AS DENZIL HAS EXPLAINED, AND WE ARE NOT SHY OF WANTING TO HAVE THAT OVERSIGHT, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THIS IS A POLICY DECISION THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU YEAR OVER YEAR HOW CLOSE WE'RE GETTING AND AT THE SAME TIME, HOW THOSE EXPENSES AROUND THE PURCHASE OF FOSSIL FUELS SHOULD BEGIN TO COME DOWN.

SO DEFINITELY IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO.

AND IN FACT IT REALLY ALIGNS VERY CLOSELY WITH THE NEW BUDGETING APPROACH THAT WE'RE MOVING TO, WHICH IS A PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING. SO WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, YOU WILL BEGIN TO SEE HOW WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS BUILDING A BUDGET AROUND THOSE PRIORITIES.

AND THEN EVERY SINGLE YEAR, WHETHER IT'S C CAP, WHETHER IT'S VISION ZERO AND ALL THE POLICIES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE US COME AND SHOW YOU HOW CLOSE WE'RE GETTING ON THE DELIVERY AND HOW IT'S ALSO IMPACTING ALL OF OUR OTHER WAYS THAT WE'RE BRINGING DOWN OUR EXPENSES.

SO WE WELCOME IT. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION FOR TODAY.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER.

AND THANK YOU. DONZELL. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CONTRACT? YEAH. MY APOLOGIES. I WAS ONLY TRYING TO GIVE CONTEXT.

I APOLOGIZE TO THE COUNCIL AND THE MANAGER. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE CONTEXT.

SOMETIMES WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ACTUALLY KIND OF BRIEF THE BIGGER PICTURE.

BUT I LOVE WHERE YOU'RE GOING. I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE DO.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS COUNCIL HAVE A MEASURING STICK FOR STAFF TO HAVE THAT OVERSIGHT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

AND I THINK THAT THIS MOTION THAT YOU HAVE IS SPOT ON WITH THAT, SO TO SPEAK, MORE IN DEPTH ABOUT THIS ACTUAL CONTRACT EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS, BASED ON WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. THINGS LIKE WHAT WE DO AT THE LANDFILL AND SOME OTHER PLACES.

THERE IS ACTUALLY NOT AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE EQUIVALENCY THAT'S EVEN AVAILABLE.

SO THERE'S SOME ELEMENT OF FOSSIL FUELS FOR SOME TIME TO COME WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS CONTRACT IS. WHAT WE'VE BEEN HOPING AND PLANNING ALONG WITH CAP, IS WE WOULD SEE THAT SAME METRIC THAT A CONTRACT LIKE THIS, YOU'D SEE LESS AND LESS AND LESS FUEL USE DEPENDENCY FOR ICE VEHICLES.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO SEE AT SOME POINT, AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT ELECTRICITY PRICES DON'T GO THROUGH THE ROOF AS WELL.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT BUDGET MOVE FROM THIS FOSSIL FUEL BUDGET OVER TO ELECTRICITY.

RIGHT. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A TRANSFER OF DOLLARS. NOW, RIGHT NOW THE MATH IS REALLY GOOD.

IT'S IN OUR FAVOR, RIGHT? IT'S BETTER, FASTER, CHEAPER.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION. AND WE STILL BELIEVE THAT. CAN YOU JUST GIVE SOME DETAILS ON THE CONTRACT? I'M GOING THERE, I'M GOING THERE. JUST THE TERM CONTRACT.

YES, SIR. THIS CONTRACT PROVIDES GASOLINE, DIESEL, RED DOT DIESEL.

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WE BID IT ALL OUT. IT'S GOING TO BE INDEXED ON PLAT PRICING, WHICH BASICALLY IS AN S&P INDEX THAT BASICALLY SAYS HERE'S WHAT THE WHOLESALE PRICE IS ON FUEL. WE BUY IT IN BULK. THE CITY HAS ITS OWN FUELING INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND AT OUR SERVICE CENTERS, EVERYTHING FROM POLICE CARS TO SANITATION TRUCKS GO AND THEY FILL UP.

THIS IS FOR A SERVICE PROVIDER TO OBTAIN THE FUEL AND ACTUALLY TRANSFER AND BRING THE FUEL TO OUR FUEL ISLANDS, OUR PUMPS, SO THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND OUR INSPECTORS, OUR, OUR, OUR TRUCK DRIVERS, THEY ALL CAN THEN FUEL UP AND THEN START THEIR DAY AND PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT YOU GUYS ARE SO ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING WHEN THEY'RE ON THE ROAD EVERY DAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR HELPING ME WORK THROUGH THIS.

I WILL ALSO SAY THANK YOU TO CHAIRWOMAN STEWART FOR YOUR AGREEING TO TO TAKE THIS ON AT THE COMMITTEE AND GIVING OUR, OUR COUNCIL MORE OVERSIGHT FOR THE CAPITALS. THANK YOU DENZEL.

THANK YOU SIR. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF. I JUST WANTED TO AFFIRM ALL THAT'S BEEN SAID SO FAR.

AND SAY TO LIZ AND PAUL, CAN WE MAKE A NOTE THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE AND WE AND YOU ALL HAVE REPORTED, BY THE WAY, ON THE EV FLEET AND THE THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING THERE.

SO WE RECENTLY HAD THAT REPORT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO GET REPORTS TO TT EACH MONTH ON A DIFFERENT PORTION OF CAP SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF DIGEST IT IN SMALL PIECES, WHICH IS GOING TO BE GREAT.

BUT I THINK THE POINT HERE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT NEW IS NOT ONLY MEASURING HOW OUR EV FLEET IS GROWING, BUT THEN ON THE OTHER END OF IT, HOW WE ARE USING LESS AND LESS OF THE FOSSIL FUELS FOR IN THIS CONTRACT IN PARTICULAR.

SO IF WE CAN THAT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE MEASUREMENT, BUT I THINK IT'LL BE VERY TELLING ABOUT KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS. BUT ONE THING THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF.

THAT THIS COULD BE PRETTY NUANCED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE PRICE OF GAS CAN FLUCTUATE IN.

WITH THE WAR. AND SO I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST GETTING WITH BRITA.

AND REALLY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S REALLY ABOUT GALLONS, I THINK MORE THAN COST.

AND THIS IS WHY BUT IT'S A NUANCED THING. AND MEGAWATTS VERSUS THE COST OF ELECTRICITY, AS YOU'VE SAID.

SO IT'S A VERY NUANCED THING. AND I THINK IN ORDER TO GET APPLES TO APPLES.

TO GET I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO EVALUATE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF CREATIVE WAY.

BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S A DIRECT NUMBER OF DOLLARS SPENT.

AND SO THAT'S JUST MY FEEDBACK. AND I WAS JUST. KIND OF PREPARING YOU MAY I MEAN, IT'S A NUANCED THING.

I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. IRONICALLY, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SYSTEMS. EARLIER, OUR EXISTING FLEET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS ALREADY WIRED THAT WAY.

IT GATHERS DATA BASED ON THE CONSUMPTION. RIGHT.

AND SO WE JUST TURN THE NEEDLE TOWARDS ELECTRIFICATION.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE KIND OF REPORTS TO YOU.

IT'S EVEN SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT THE CO2 EMISSIONS REDUCTIONS AND THOSE THINGS ARE.

OUR SYSTEM DOES THAT FOR US TODAY. OKAY. GROWING UP IN WEST TEXAS, I UNDERSTAND OIL MARKETS.

SO THANKS, CHAIRMAN NAVARRO. THANK YOU. MAYOR ATKINS.

THE CAP. THIS IS AN EXCELLENT ADDITION. AMENDMENT.

IT JUST ADDS TRANSPARENCY, MAKES SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT. SO THAT WE CAN SEE HOW THIS CONTRACT IS GOING.

AND YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID.

YOU KNOW, I HAD THE DISTINCT HONOR OF BEING THE FIRST EVER CHAIR OF THE FIRST EVER ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND AND THEN MY COLLEAGUE PAULA BLACKMON OVER THERE FROM DISTRICT NINE WAS THE TOOK OVER AND SHE KEPT IT GOING.

AND NOW WE HAVE CHAIR STEWART, WHO IS JUST MAKING THINGS GO AMAZINGLY WELL.

AND SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS AND UNDERSTANDS OUR CAP WAS RATED THE MOST IMPLEMENTABLE C CAP IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES BY BROOKINGS. AND WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT'S A HUGE HONOR FOR OUR CITY THAT YOU ALL AS STAFF, ARE MAKING SURE THESE THINGS HAPPEN. CITY MANAGER TOLBERT, THAT'S PART OF YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WHOEVER FILLED OUT ALL THE TYPING ON THE PAPERWORK, RIGHT? IT'S EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE FOLKS THAT ARE MAKING THIS HAPPEN, BUT THERE IS SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO I HAVE TO POINT OUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T ME WHO GOT THIS STARTED.

IT WAS THE HONORABLE SANDY GRAYSON. I'M NOT SURE WHERE SHE IS. I SAW HER EARLIER, AND SHE IS THE ACTUAL.

IF IT WASN'T FOR HER, THERE SHE IS, RIGHT OVER THERE.

IF IT WASN'T FOR HER AND HER LEADERSHIP TO GET US THE DOLLARS THAT WE COULD DO THE C CAP.

IN HER LAST TERM, WHICH WAS MY FIRST TERM, IT'S BEEN THAT LONG.

AND NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED. SO THANK YOU.

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HONORABLE GRAYSON, FOR ALL YOUR LEADERSHIP OVER THE YEARS.

I'M NOT GOING TO STOP THEM FROM CLAPPING FOR HER.

AND AND SO THIS IS REALLY GREAT. AND WHEN WE PASSED IT, I SAID WE WANTED TO MAKE IT A LIVING DOCUMENT SO IT CAN CONSTANTLY BE UPDATED.

AND SO DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SPIRIT OF THE C CAP WAS, TO MAKE SURE IT COULD CHANGE AS TECHNOLOGY CHANGED OR DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENED.

AND JUST LIKE YOU SAID, THE THE ELECTRICITY VERSUS IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT HYDROGEN OR YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE FUELS THAT ARE CLEAN AS WELL. BUT I KNOW THIS ONE'S SPECIFIC TO TO GAS AND DIESEL.

BUT THIS IS EXCITING STUFF THAT WE'RE DOING IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CLEANER AIR IN OUR CITY FOR HOPEFULLY GENERATIONS TO COME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD JOB, CHAIRMAN ARNOLD.

THANK YOU. I THINK I PUSHED THE BUTTON. SO YES, I DO SUPPORT THIS THIS RESOLUTION AND THIS AUTHORIZATION TODAY.

BUT I DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON CHAIRMAN NAVARRO'S COMMENT ON THE ORIGIN OF THE CAP AND THE HARD WORK NOT ONLY OF THE COMMITTEE, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE HONORABLE SANDY GRAYSON WAS IN THE AUDIENCE, SO I DID WANT TO THANK HER AS WELL FOR HER WORK.

EVEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE TREES AND EVERYTHING, THIS, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED ON AND AND I WAS SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOME WORK WITH OUR TREE COMMUNITY AND STILL PUSHING THAT. BUT ALSO, I MISSED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO.

AND I'M SURE SOMEONE MAY SAY IT'S NOT GERMANE, BUT ALSO HER WORK ON DART TWO HELPED US IN DISTRICT FOUR, SO I THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT IN AT THIS POINT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE AND I DO SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION, BUT I DID WANT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TO GIVE FLOWERS TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHILE THEY ARE STILL ABLE TO HEAR IT.

THANK YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE. SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY THE NEXT ITEM, MADAM CHAIR.

MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 50.

[50. 25-764A Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

AGENDA ITEM 50 IS APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THIS AFTERNOON. YOU ONLY HAVE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION.

LAUREN MELTON IS BEING NOMINATED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

MISS MELTON MEETS THE CURRENTLY OR FORMERLY EMPLOYED AS AN ETHICS OFFICER OR SIMILAR POSITION IN A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE ORGANIZATION, AND TO THE PERMIT AND LICENSE APPEAL BOARD. YVONNE GONZALEZ IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES. MR. MAYOR, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. ANY COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? EYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 51.

[51. 25-470A Authorize the second step of acquisition for condemnation by eminent domain to acquire a drainage easement containing approximately 4,738 square feet of land from Lester Claud Loftice and wife, Mary Charles Loftice located on Renner Drive near its intersection with South Denley Drive for the Kings Branch Culvert at Denley Project - Not to exceed $8,800.00 ($5,800.00, plus closing costs and title expenses not to exceed $3,000.00) - Financing: 2024B Certificate of Obligation Fund]

AUTHORIZE THE SECOND STEP OF ACQUISITION OF CONDEMNATION BY EMINENT DOMAIN.

TO ACQUIRE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 4738FT² OF LAND FROM LESTER CLAUDE LOFTIS AND WIFE MARY CHARLES LATIF LOFTIS, LOCATED ON RENNER DRIVE NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH SOUTH DENLEY DRIVE FOR THE KINGS BRANCH CULVERT AT DENLEY PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED $8,800 BECAUSE IT'S AN EMINENT DOMAIN ITEM, THIS ITEM WILL REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. OKAY. IN THE COMMENTS.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY. RECORD VOTE. KEVIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OH. CHAIRMAN TAVARES IS GOING TO SAY HE IS. YEAH, I SNUCK IN AT THE LAST SECOND. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IF STAFF CAN LET ME KNOW IF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS IN FAVOR OF THE EMINENT DOMAIN OR OPPOSED TO THE EMINENT EMINENT DOMAIN, PLEASE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MATT PINK, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

THE OWNERS ARE DECEASED, AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO BE LOCATED.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE.

YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

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YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

SCHULTZ. COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ IS ABSENT WITH VOTE TAKEN.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WILLIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR JOHNSON IS IS ABSENT WITH 13 VOTING IN FAVOR, ONE ABSENT AND ONE ABSENT VOTE TAKEN. THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. I'M GOOD FOR NOW. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 53.

[53. 25-1010A Authorize a one-year cooperative purchasing agreement for Priority Based Budgeting software as a service for the Office of Budget and Management Services with Tyler Technologies, Inc. through the Sourcewell Cooperative purchasing agreement - Not to exceed $180,000.00 - Financing: ARPA Redevelopment Fund]

AGENDA ITEM 53 AUTHORIZE A ONE YEAR COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR A PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE FOR THE OFFICE OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES WITH TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, INC.

THROUGH THE SOURCEWELL COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT NOT TO EXCEED $180,000.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. CHAIRMAN. MENDELSOHN.

YES. THANK YOU. THIS, I BELIEVE, WAS BRIEFED AT GPM.

AND I WANT TO APPLAUD THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE PURCHASE OF THIS TO ASSIST WITH BUDGETING THIS YEAR.

ONE OF THE ASPECTS THAT WAS DESCRIBED IN THE SOFTWARE PURCHASE IS THAT EVERY PROGRAM IN EVERY DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE A COST ALLOCATION, AND THIS IS WONDERFULLY VALUABLE, I THINK, FOR THE MANAGER IN MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS TO ADVANCE, WHAT PROJECTS TO SCALE BACK. BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED AT THE TIME WAS, WOULD THAT BE PART OF OUR VERY LARGE, USUALLY 800 PAGE BUDGET? AS A SEPARATE APPENDIX, WHICH I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE OR PROVIDED IN SOME WAY TO COUNCIL? NOT AT A HIGH LEVEL, BUT ACTUALLY EVERY PROGRAM AND THAT COST ALLOCATION, THESE ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

AND I THINK THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT EVERY PROGRAM IS COSTING.

AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THAT AFFIRMED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. AND COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE KEY ADVANTAGES OF PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS THAT IT DOES ALLOW FOR YOU TO DRILL DOWN TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, AND IT ACTUALLY MAKES THE BUDGET PROCESS A MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT AND AN OPEN PROCESS, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE PURSUED MAKING THIS CHANGE.

THIS IS A CULTURAL CHANGE FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

THE WORK HAS ALREADY BEGUN, AND THE COMMITMENT TO OUR TEAM AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS THAT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT DELIVERING THAT WITH THIS UPCOMING BUDGET.

I'LL LET JANETTE AND OUR JANETTE WEEDEN, OUR DEPUTY CFO AND OUR CFO, JACK IRELAND, SHARE MORE DETAILS.

BUT WE'RE TRULY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS WITH PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT AND MISS MENDELSOHN.

YES, WE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION AT THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.

SO YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND AGAIN, I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS IN DOING THIS.

SEEING NO OTHER QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, AGENDA ITEM 54.

[54. 25-1085A Authorize (1) the acceptance of a land donation from Commerce and South Ervay Streets from Slaughter Partners, LP, CCS Commerce A, LLC and CCS Commerce B, LLC; and (2) negotiations of a tenant lease of approximately 2,500 square feet of improved land located near the intersection of Commerce and Ervay Streets for the 1607 Commerce Street Land Dedication Project - Not to exceed $2,000.00, plus closing costs and title expenses - Financing: General Fund]

AUTHORIZE ONE. THE ACCEPTANCE OF A LAND DONATION FROM COMMERCE IN SOUTH HERVEY STREETS, FROM SLAUGHTER PARTNERS, LP, COMMERCE A LLC AND COMMERCE B, LLC, AND TWO NEGOTIATIONS OF A TENANT LEASE APPROXIMATELY 2500FT² OF IMPROVED LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF COMMERCE AND ERVAY STREETS FOR THE ONE 607 COMMERCE STREET LAND DEDICATION PROJECT, NOT TO EXCEED $2,000 PLUS CLOSING COST AND TITLE EXPENSES.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO DEFER THIS MATTER FOR A PERIOD OF TWO WEEKS UNTIL APRIL 9TH.

WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND IN THE COMMENT. YES.

I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR RETAINING THE NEIMAN MARCUS STORE IN DOWNTOWN AS THE JEWEL OF OUR COMMERCIAL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT DOWNTOWN. I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE, GIVEN THE PENDENCY OF NEGOTIATIONS AT THIS TIME, THAT WE DEFER THIS MATTER TO ALLOW THOSE NEGOTIATIONS TO PLAY OUT.

BUT THAT SEE CHAIRMAN ARNOLD. THANK YOU SIR. SO SUPPORTING THE EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN THE ICON OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

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I KNOW WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS PREFERENCES OF WHERE WE SHOP, BUT I HAVE HAD A LONG, LONG TIME.

REALLY SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR NEIMAN MARCUS.

HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, AND NOT MANY DO, BUT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN GET TO A POINT OF ORDER.

MAYOR. YOU STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. I THINK THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS A DEFERRAL.

OKAY, STICK TO THE ITEM. THANK YOU. ONCE AGAIN, MY RESPONSE TO THE DEFERRAL IS ATTACHED TO THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH AT THIS TIME, THAT I'VE NOT COMPLETED THE SENTENCE. NOW, HAVE I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT AND LOVE SINCE YOU MENTIONED, I THINK THE DOOR WAS OPEN WHEN THE WORD ICON WAS BROUGHT OUT.

STANLEY MARCUS WAS ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD A CHANCE TO MEET. LOVED THE WHOLE HERITAGE OF IT, BUT OF THE DEFERRAL OF THIS. AS WE TALK ABOUT DEFERRING A CONVERSATION, THAT MEANS WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THE PURCHASE.

SO LET ME GO TO THE CITY MANAGER WITH THIS DEFERRAL, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ROLE IN TERMS OF THIS DEFERRAL AS IS LISTED HERE TODAY FOR OUR VOTE COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD.

WITH NO DECISION TODAY, I THINK WHAT I JUST HEARD IN THE DEFERRAL THAT THIS WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL THE 9TH, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR YOUR ACTION? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR ACTIONS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE MEANTIME.

SINCE MARCUS, THE STORE IS CLOSING, I UNDERSTAND THE 31ST.

IF I'M CORRECT. I THINK IN MY ROLE AS THE CITY MANAGER, THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR CONTINUING TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES AT THIS LOCATION AND WHAT THAT WOULD BE IS WHAT WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DISCUSS IN GREATER DETAIL.

I CAN'T GIVE YOU A RUNDOWN OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AT THIS TIME, BUT DID I UNDERSTAND SO THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR? DID YOU JUST SAY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE A CONVERSATION OR YOU'RE NOT? MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ACCEPT REQUESTS FOR MEETINGS.

WHETHER IT'S WITH OUR DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS, WITH THE NEW OWNER OF THE NEIMAN MARCUS LOCATION, JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE AT THE TABLE AND THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WHAT POSSIBLE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH HAS BEEN MY STANCE FROM DAY ONE. ALL RIGHT.

SO WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS THAT WHEN WE DELAY THE CONVERSATION.

I'VE HAD A NUMBER OF COMMENTS FROM FROM CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S TAKEN US SO LONG IN THIS CONVERSATION, AND THE ADVOCACY IS AT SUCH A HIGH LEVEL. THEIR CONCERN IS, WHY ARE WE NOT MOVING WITH THE SAME INTENSITY ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR? SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M REPRESENTING MY COMMUNITY TODAY IN TERMS OF THEIR ADVOCACY THROUGH YOUR OFFICE IN THE CITY, THE THE COUNCIL THAT WE PUT THE SAME INTENSITY AROUND CONVERSATIONS SUCH AS THE GROCERY STORES AND OTHER NEEDS THAT WE HAVE.

SO THAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR MY INTRODUCTION AND MY STATEMENT TODAY.

CITY MANAGER AND THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS AROUND THE HORSESHOE, HOW LONG MUST WE WAIT FOR THIS CONVERSATION? ONCE AGAIN, COULD YOU GIVE US THE DATE FOR THE FOR THE RECORD CITY MANAGER? SO I'M MAKING SURE THAT MY COMMUNITY HEARS YOU.

WE'RE DEFERRING THIS. TO WHAT DATE? IF I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION THAT WAS READ BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, IT WAS TO BRING THE ITEM BACK ON APRIL THE 9TH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE, WE BEG YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING.

BUT SOMETIMES I HAVE TO DO. WHAT THE PEOPLE SENT ME HERE TO DO IS TO REPRESENT THEM.

SO I'M REPRESENTING THEM IN MY RESPONSE TO THE DELAY.

SO AS I SEE THERE'S PROBABLY ONE OTHER PERSON, TWO OTHER PERSONS, I WILL COME BACK TO MAKE MY FINAL STATEMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT I SUPPORT THE DELAY UNDER. CHAIRMAN MORENO. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

MR. RIDLEY, THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE ITEM.

MADAM CITY MANAGER TOLBERT, THANK YOU. AND I APPLAUD YOUR SHARED COMMITMENT TO A CLEAN AND VIBRANT DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND THE SHARED VISION FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING WITH. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING OFFICIALLY ON THIS ITEM AT A LATER DATE.

BUT YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WITH THAT, COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

WELL, ICONIC BRAND NAME ASIDE, THIS IS REALLY ABOUT GIVING THE CITY MANAGER AND HER TEAM THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE AND HOPEFULLY ADVANCE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS. SO I APPRECIATE THE MOTION AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT.

OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS. SO WITH THAT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? EYES CARRIED. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 55.

[55. 25-992A Authorize (1) an Amendment No. 1 to the Project Specific Agreement with Dallas County for the Dallas County Transportation Major Capital Improvement Project 10230 to increase the overall agreement $1,728,908.00 in an amount not to exceed $2,228,908.00, for the purpose of trail design, construction, and funding for the Kleberg Trail from the DART Buckner Station to Crawford Park at Bridges Street; (2) an increase in appropriations in an amount not to exceed $784,454.00 in the Capital Gifts, Donations and Development Fund; (3) the receipt and deposit funds in an amount of $784,454.00 in the Dallas County in the Capital Gifts, Donations and Development Fund; and (4) the execution of the agreement including all terms, conditions, and documents required by the agreement - Financing: Capital Gifts, Donation and Development Fund ($784,454.00) and Park and Recreation Facilities (B) Fund (2017 General Obligation Bond Fund) ($864,454.00)]

AUTHORIZE ONE. AN AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE PROJECTS SPECIFIC AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY FOR THE DALLAS COUNTY TRANSPORTATION.

MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT 10230 TO INCREASE THE OVERALL AGREEMENT ONE

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$1,728,908, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,228,908 FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRAIL DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, AND FUNDING FOR THE KLEBERG TRAIL FROM THE DART BUCKNER STATION TO CRAWFORD PARK AT BRIDGES STREET TO AN INCREASE IN THE APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $784,454 IN THE CAPITAL.

GIFTS, DONATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT FUND. THREE THE RECEIPT AND DEPOSIT OF FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT OF $784,454 IN THE DALLAS COUNTY CAPITAL. GIFTS, DONATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT FUND AND FOR THE EXECUTION OF THE AGREEMENT, INCLUDING ALL TERMS, CONDITIONS AND DOCUMENTS REQUIRED BY THE AGREEMENT.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. I HAVE A QUICK SECOND. GUY, THAT WAS A FAST SECOND.

PUT PUT THAT CAN DOWN. COUNCIL. COUNCIL? ARE YOU COMING BACK ON THAT ONE? NO. YOU'RE NOT GOING I SAY, YOU'RE GOOD. YEAH.

HE'S GOOD, HE SAID. I SAID YEAH, OKAY. HE'S GOT HIS STUFF.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, RESENDEZ BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF BORING.

DISTRICT EIGHT. AND WITH THAT TRAILER, I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR HARD WORK. AND THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST TO TO THAT FAST SECOND, THE FASTEST SECOND WE EVER HAD IN THE CITY HALL.

OKAY. NO OTHER COMPANY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? EYES CARRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AGENDA ITEM 56. AUTHORIZE A FIVE YEAR LICENSED TRAINING PROVIDER AGREEMENT WITH THE AMERICAN NATIONAL RED CROSS AND ITS CONSTITUENT

[56. 25-1045A Authorize a five-year Licensed Training Provider Agreement with the American National Red Cross & Its Constituent Chapters and Branches dba American Red Cross to permit the Dallas Park and Recreation Department Red Cross-certified instructors to use Red Cross licensed training materials in the instruction of water safety training courses -American National Red Cross, sole source - Total amount not to exceed $150,000.00 - Financing: General Funds (subject to annual appropriations)]

CHAPTERS AND BRANCHES, DBA AMERICAN RED CROSS, TO PERMIT THE DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT RED CROSS CERTIFIED INSTRUCTORS TO USE RED CROSS LICENSED TRAINING MATERIALS IN THE INSTRUCTION OF WATER SAFETY TRAINING COURSES.

AMERICAN NATIONAL RED CROSS SOLE SOURCE. TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $150,000.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MISTER MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND IN THE COMMENT. SEEING NONE. COMMENT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

[57. 25-999A Authorize a three-year master agreement for the purchase of wholesale restaurant food products for subsequent retail sale by the City of Dallas at Bahama Beach Waterpark, nine aquatic centers and nine community pools for the Park & Recreation Department with Sysco USA 1, Inc. dba Sysco North Texas through Texas Local Government Code Chapter 252.022 (14) General Exemptions goods purchased by municipality for subsequent retail sale by municipality - Not to exceed $375,000.00 -Financing: General Fund]

AGENDA ITEM 57. AUTHORIZE A THREE YEAR MASTER AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF WHOLESALE RESTAURANT FOOD PRODUCTS FOR SUBSEQUENT RETAIL SALE BY THE CITY OF DALLAS AT BAHAMA BEACH WATER PARK, NINE AQUATIC CENTERS AND NINE COMMUNITY POOLS FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WITH CISCO USA ONE, INC., DBA CISCO NORTH TEXAS THROUGH TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTER TWO, 52.022, SUBSECTION 14.

GENERAL EXEMPTIONS. GOODS PURCHASED BY MUNICIPALITY FOR SUBSEQUENT RETAIL SALE.

BY MUNICIPALITY. TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $375,000.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND. MOTION. AND A SECOND. MRS MENDELSOHN, CHAIRMAN.

I MEAN CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE GET A LITTLE SHEET THAT SAYS WHAT DISTRICTS ARE AFFECTED BY THIS CONTRACT, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT DISTRICTS THEY ARE. IT'S 12345678 DOES NOT INCLUDE NINE 1011 DOES NOT INCLUDE 12, AND THEN 13 AND 14. AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE POOLS THAT ARE INCLUDED.

NONE OF THEM ARE IN DISTRICT NINE OR DISTRICT 12.

NOW DISTRICT NINE IS CLOSE TO POOLS AND DISTRICT TWO 710, 14.

MAYBE DISTRICT 12 IS VERY FAR FROM ANY POOL. AND IN FACT, THERE'S ONLY ONE POOL NORTH OF LBJ IN DISTRICT 11 AT FRETZ.

AND FOR ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN COLLIN AND DENTON COUNTY, THIS IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF SERVICE.

LACK OF SERVICE. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BEING UNDERUTILIZED AND UNDER-RESOURCED IN CERTAIN AREAS, I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON. THANK YOU. AND YES, YOU BRING UP A POINT, BUT FORTUNATELY I DO HAVE ADJACENCIES PLUS SPRAY PARKS. AND SO I THINK IT'S FAIR TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PLAN VERSUS JUST A SPECIFIC OF A POOL AND THEN PROXIMITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. BUT I DIDN'T WANT EVERYBODY TO THINK THAT I WASN'T ALLOWING FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES IN DISTRICT NINE.

AND OF COURSE, WHITE ROCK LAKE. MAYBE WE'LL GET TO SWIM IN THAT ONE DAY.

THANKS. JUST SAYING. IF Y'ALL ARE WOKE UP, STAY WOKE.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

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EYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 58 IS A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, RULES OF PROCEDURE BY

[58. 25-85A A resolution amending the Board of Adjustment’s Rules of Procedure by (1) amending the duties of the board administrator and board secretary; (2) amending the timeframe that an applicant may withdraw or amend an application; (3) amending requests for board action to allow for the consolidation and assignments of cases and appeals to a single panel in extraordinary circumstances; and (4) making other non-substantive changes - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on December 11, 2024)]

ONE. AMENDING THE DUTIES OF THE BOARD ADMINISTRATOR AND BOARD SECRETARY.

TWO AMENDING THE TIME FRAME THAT AN APPLICANT MAY WITHDRAW OR AMEND AN APPLICATION.

THREE AMENDING REQUEST FOR BOARD ACTION TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSOLIDATION AND ASSIGNMENTS OF CASES AND APPEALS TO A SINGLE PANEL IN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES, AND FOUR MAKING OTHER SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.

FINANCING. THERE IS NO FINANCING FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO REFER.

I MOVE TO REFER THIS ITEM BACK TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING WITH THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTION.

AMEND SECTION 11 OF THE PROPOSED BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT RULES OF PROCEDURE TO COMPLY WITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 33012.

WE GOT A SECOND. YEAH. SECOND. SECOND IN THE COMMENT.

YES. JUST REALLY QUICKLY. THIS IS WHEN WE ADOPTED THE CHANGE FOR SB WHATEVER SENATE BILL MADE US CHANGE THE LAW.

NOW WE, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS NEEDS TO CHANGE THEIR RULES BECAUSE WE HAVE NOW ADOPTED A DIFFERENT SET, A DIFFERENT ORDINANCE. SO THEY HAVE TO THEY HAVE TO MATCH IT SO THAT WE CAN GET THE FINAL APPROVAL ON EVERYTHING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OH.

HOLD ON. OMAR, YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT BACK ON. YOU MEAN IT? TURN IT OFF. YOU THROUGH? OKAY. SO ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

WE'RE NOW WITH YOUR ZONING AGENDA. BUT BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM DEFERRAL. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z10.

[Z10. 25-933A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a renewal of Specific Use Permit No. 2392 for an alcoholic beverage establishment limited to a bar, lounge, or tavern, and a commercial amusement (inside) use limited to a dance hall on property zoned an FWMU-3 Form Walkable Mixed-Use Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, with an SH Shopfront Overlay, on the northeast corner of Botham Jean Boulevard and South Boulevard Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to conditions Z234-329(LC)]

I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO JUNE 11TH, 2025.

NO DISCUSSION. NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF A QUESTION? MY LIGHT IS ON, MAYOR. WHAT? TRYING TO GET ALL THIS MY TECHNOLOGY UP.

DO YOU HAVE A RESPOND? YES. I'M. IT SAYS IT WAS A DEFERRAL FOR THE TEN.

I'M GOING TO ASK THAT SOME ASK ME WHAT IS THE LEGAL LEGAL, LEGAL LEGAL CHALLENGES TO DISCUSSING THIS TODAY? STAFF, SOMEBODY. OH, GOD.

ANY LEGAL DISCUSSION? THERE'S NO LEGAL CHALLENGES TO DISCUSSING IT TODAY, BUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO DEFER IT.

WAS THERE A DATE TO DEFER ON WHEN? AM I MISSING THE DATE? WAS IT A DATE? MAYOR PRO TEM, I'M ABOUT TO DO A DATE.

JUNE 11TH. HE SAID JUNE 11TH WAS THE DATE. YEAH.

JUNE 11TH WAS THE DATE. THANK YOU. IS THERE A REASON THAT WE WE CAN CAN HAVE THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WHILE WE'RE DEFERRING THIS BECAUSE YOU JUST GAVE ME THE ANSWER TO THAT. I'M SORRY. TO THE MAYOR.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW. TO THE MAYOR TO ASK. MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME DIRECTING THE QUESTION TO COUNCIL MEMBER, SEVENTH DISTRICT? IF IF HE WANT TO ADDRESS IT.

OKAY. THAT'S FINE. IT'S UP TO HIM. CUZ I NEED A DEFERRAL.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE HEAR YOU NEED TO GET A DEFERRAL.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT ON THE RECORD.

AS SOME HAVE ASKED ME, I DO. I RETURN THE FAVOR.

THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? YES. AND ONE OPPOSED. MADAM SECRETARY, NEXT ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM C 19.

[Z19. 25-943A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an FRTN F-Residential Transition Subdistrict on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the southeast line of Elsie Faye Heggins Street, southwest of Myrtle Street Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval Z245-103(SM)]

I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL MAY 28TH, 2025.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ANY COMMENT? YES.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN ALLMAN. THANK YOU.

IS THERE A CAN WE ASK LEGAL ONCE AGAIN? IS THERE LEGAL REASON FOR THIS TO BE DEFERRED TO BE BASED ON.

NO. ALL RIGHT. NO. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WANT TO DIRECT THE QUESTION TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER, DISTRICT SEVEN.

IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE REASON THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR DEFERRAL.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE I NEED A DEFERRAL. ALL RIGHT, YOU NEED A DEFERRAL.

THAT'S FINE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY HEARS THAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS NEEDS A DEFERRAL.

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SECOND QUESTION HAVE ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS BEEN HELD ON THIS MATTER TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER? THROUGH THE MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION. WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS HAVE BEEN HELD ON THIS MATTER.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I NEED A DEFERRAL. THANK YOU.

FOR THE RECORD. I'LL INVITE YOU WHENEVER WE GET IT SCHEDULED.

FOR THOSE PUBLIC MEMBERS WHO ARE LISTENING, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN ALL OF US GET QUESTIONS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THERE ARE MEMBERS THROUGH DISTRICT SEVEN WHO REACH OUT TO ME FROM TIME TO TIME REGARDING ISSUES THAT WE VOTE ON.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR ON THAT.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RUN ANOTHER PERSON'S DISTRICT, BUT I DO WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE WHEN CONSTITUENTS ASK US AND ASK ME IN MY OFFICIAL CAPACITY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M ASKING TODAY.

CLARITY, SO THAT I CAN GIVE THE RESPONSE TO THOSE WHO ASK OF ME.

THROUGH DISTRICT SEVEN WHO ARE TAXPAYERS. THANK YOU.

SEEING NO ONE ELSE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS Z ONE THROUGH Z 24.

ITEM Z NINE IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

ITEM Z10 WAS PREVIOUSLY DEFERRED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

ITEM Z10 WAS DELETED. ITEM Z 14 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD.

ITEM Z 16 IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.

ITEM Z 19 WAS PREVIOUSLY DEFERRED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS Z ONE THROUGH Z EIGHT, Z 11, Z 13, Z 15 C 17, Z 18, AND Z 20 THROUGH 24. I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM Z ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING ONE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MU, ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT USES, AND TWO. A RESOLUTION TERMINATING DEED RESTRICTIONS ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD, NORTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF WEST CAMP WISDOM ROAD AND CLARK ROAD.

ITEM Z TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2269 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE. 3500FT² OR LESS ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD AND FORNEY ROAD.

ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING ONE AND MU DASH THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT AND TWO.

A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH, EAST AND NORTHWEST CORNERS OF DALLAS NORTH TOLLWAY AND PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH TURNPIKE.

ITEM C-4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

SUBDISTRICT FOR A HEAVY COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY BOUND BY CEDAR SPRINGS ROAD, MAPLE AVENUE, NORTH PEARL STREET, AND MCKINNEY AVENUE.

ITEM Z5 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2353 FOR AN AUTO SERVICE CENTER ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD AND PITTSBURGH STREET.

ITEM C-6 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 370.

FOR A CHILD CARE FACILITY AND A COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTER ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH CORNER OF LEELAND AVENUE AND MARBURG STREET.

ITEM C7 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUBAREA ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF SWISS AVENUE BETWEEN OAK STREET AND LIBERTY STREET.

ITEM C8 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 822 ON PROPERTY BOUNDED BY FORNEY ROAD, WIMBLEDON WAY, CHARIOT DRIVE, AND LOMAX DRIVE.

ITEM 11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF MAIN STREET, EAST OF SOUTH AKARD STREET. ITEM 13 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MF TWO A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF ARROW ROAD, NORTH OF SUTHERLAND AVENUE. ITEM 15 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO, AND A RENEWAL OF, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1450 FOR AN OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST ILLINOIS AVENUE AND CHALMERS STREET, ON THE SOUTH LINE OF BAKERSFIELD STREET, AND ON THE NORTH LINE OF INGLE AVENUE.

ITEM 17 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO AND A RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1981 FOR A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN AND A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.

LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF MAIN STREET, EAST OF MALCOLM X BOULEVARD.

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ITEM 18 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN NSA NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY NORTH OF LAKE JUNE ROAD, WEST OF NORTH SAINT AUGUSTINE ROAD. ITEM 20 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 453 ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WALNUT HILL LANE AND GREENVILLE AVENUE, AND THE SOUTH LINE OF WALNUT HILL LANE EAST OF GREENVILLE AVENUE.

ITEM Z 21 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO AND A RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2451 FOR A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN AND A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.

LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF ELM STREET, WEST OF CROWDER STREET.

ITEM C 22 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO, AND A RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2511 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE 3500FT² OR LESS ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LAKE JUNE ROAD AND JIM MILLER ROAD.

ITEM Z 23 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO AND RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2284 FOR A TATTOO STUDIO ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF PARKHOUSE STREET AND THE NORTH LINE OF CONTINENTAL AVENUE, WEST OF COURT STREET.

AN ITEM, Z 24, IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 655, ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF POTTER'S HOUSE WAY AND TRUTH DRIVE.

YOU DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON SOME OF YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, GRACE BARR.

GRACE BARR, WILL BE SPEAKING ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM Z ONE.

I'M SORRY, MISS BARR. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF YOUR MICROPHONE.

THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS GRACE BARR.

YEAH. I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WHICH MANAGES ABOUT 9.4 ACRES OF CONSERVATION LAND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE APARTMENT WHICH APPLIED FOR THE REZONING.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT A PROPOSAL. IT'S CALLED THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY ADVENTURE PARK WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A PROPOSAL FOR A PARK.

IT'S A WILD. IT'S A NATURE PARK TO PROVIDE SPACES FOR RESIDENTS, FOR THE LOCAL RESIDENTS, AND ALSO FOR THE APARTMENT RESIDENTS. WE WANT TO PROPOSE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE APARTMENT ACROSS THE STREET TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF LOCAL RESIDENTS BY DOING WHAT? TO PROMOTE THE 9.4 ACRE, TO BECOME TO PROVIDE AMENITY FOR DOG PARK, WALKING TRAIL AND ALSO AVAILABILITY OF PHYSICAL RELAXATION ENVIRONMENT.

WE HAVE THREE GOALS FOR THIS PROPOSAL. FIRST, ENHANCE COMMUNITY LIVING.

SECOND, PROMOTE CONSERVATION. THIRD IS FOSTER PARTNERSHIPS.

SHIPS. IF I MAY ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON EACH ONE OF THEM.

THE FIRST ONE IS ENHANCED COMMUNITY LIVING. WE WANT TO PROVIDE THE RESIDENTS WITH RECREATIONAL SPACES THAT PROMOTE PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES, RELAXATION, AND MAYBE A PET FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.

SECOND IS TO PROMOTE CONSERVATION. WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY, MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE CONSERVATION LAND.

YET WE WANT TO PROMOTE SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR ACTIVITY.

THREE. FOSTER PARTNERSHIP. OUR NONPROFIT WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND MAYBE CREATE A HIKING TRAIL AND CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN OF A TRAIL, AND ALSO ENROLL THE APARTMENT MANAGEMENT TEAM TO ACTUALLY COLLABORATE ON THIS PARK.

WE CALLED COMMUNITY ADVENTURE PARK. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, VICTOR GARCIA, WILL BE SPEAKING ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM Z 13.

MR. GARCIA IS VIRTUAL. MR. GARCIA, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

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WE CAN HEAR YOU. HOWEVER, WE CANNOT SEE YOU. YOUR VIDEO MUST BE DISPLAYED.

WE CAN SEE YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE. OKAY. HI. YES, ACTUALLY, IT'S MY.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR DALLAS COUNCIL.

I THE C 13 IS ACTUALLY MY PROPERTY. IT'S A IS A PROJECT WE HAVE WITH MY WIFE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK. IF YOU HAVE SOME SOME QUESTIONS, I'M REALLY OPEN TO TO ANSWER WHATEVER YOUR DOUBTS.

DOUBTS ON IT. AND THAT'S ALL THAT I WANTED TO SAY ON IT.

THANK YOU. YOU'LL HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ON CONSENT.

AGENDA ITEM Z16. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, JOHN WIMBERLY.

I'M SORRY. Z24. CLAUDIO SEGOVIA. IS NOT PRESENT.

THOSE ARE YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THAT, FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. HAVE A MOTION. SECOND.

MISS MENDELSOHN. YES. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON Z3.

IT'S NOT EVERY WEEK THAT WE ACTUALLY GET A ZONING CASE IN DISTRICT 12.

AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING WITH THIS.

THIS IS RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF THE NORTH DALLAS TOLLWAY AND GEORGE BUSH.

ALL FOUR CORNERS, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED.

FOUR CORNERS ARE OWNED BY THE SAME DEVELOPER, AND THEY'VE BEEN VACANT FOREVER.

AND TWO OF THESE PARCELS ARE PART OF THIS CONSENT AGENDA, AND THEY'RE THE TWO MOST NORTHERN.

SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF GEORGE BUSH, WHICH SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK IS ALREADY PLANO, BUT IT'S NOT. AND WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE REPORT IS THE STAFF DENIED IT.

AND WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY'RE ALL ZONED, ALL FOUR PARCELS ARE ZONED FOR OFFICE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST NOT A BIG MARKET FOR BUILDING OFFICE RIGHT NOW.

AND THE DEVELOPER CAME TO ME AND SAID, HEY, CAN WE BUILD SOME MULTIFAMILY THERE? AND I SAID, NO, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE AN OVERABUNDANCE OF MULTIFAMILY THERE.

BUT WHY DON'T WE PULL TOGETHER SOME RESIDENTS FROM THE AREA AND SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE.

AND WE DID THAT. AND THERE ARE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT IDEAS.

AND THE DEVELOPER WENT BACK AND DID SOME RESEARCH, AND WE CAME BACK AND HAD A BIG COMMUNITY MEETING.

EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO GIVE INPUT. AND WHAT HAPPENED IS WE AGREED THIS COULD GO FORWARD.

WE COULD FIND A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

STAFF DENIED IT BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T FIT WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED.

AND IT'S AN INTERESTING, FABULOUS DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY TO YOU IS WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIAL.

HEARING WHAT OUR RESIDENTS SAY IS ESSENTIAL, AND WHAT WE'LL HAVE NOW IS A VERY LARGE RESIDENTIAL USE THAT WILL PROVIDE TAX REVENUE, THAT WILL USE A KIND OF DIFFICULT SPACE BECAUSE IT'S BORDERED BY TWO VERY ACTIVE HIGHWAYS.

AND WE'LL HAVE DONE THIS IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY.

WHAT I WANT YOU TO NOTE IS THERE'S NOT A SINGLE DISTRICT 12 RESIDENT WHO CAME HERE TO OPPOSE THIS RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.

SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON CONSENT? MOTION FOR A SECOND.

SECOND. ANY OTHER COMMENT? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

[Z9. 25-930A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Planned Development District No. 917, on the northwest line of Manor Way, between Maple Avenue and Denton Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to staff’s recommended amended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to amended conditions Z234-326(MP/SM)]

ITEM Z NINE. ITEM Z NINE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 917 ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF MANOR WAY BETWEEN MAPLE AVENUE AND DENTON DRIVE.

I DON'T ASK HIM TO PULL IT BACK. MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 51 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST. WE RECEIVED SIX REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD SHOULD BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

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PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YEAH. TOMMY. MAN 500 WINSTEAD BUILDING, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT HERE.

THIS THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF A CONSOLIDATED RENTAL RENTAL CAR FACILITY.

THIS PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY LEASED BY THE CITY'S DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION FROM MY CLIENT.

SO I'M HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THE BACKGROUND.

THANKS. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

EXISTING URBAN DESIGN STANDARDS REGARDING BUILDING MATERIALS ARE REMOVED TO COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 3000 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN A IN A COMMENT.

NO. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT ITEM. Z14. Z14 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE

[Z14. 25-937A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2107 for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store greater than 3,500 square feet on property zoned a CR-D-1 Community Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the north corner of Ramona Avenue and East Overton Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to staffs recommended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a five-year period Z234-346(CR)]

GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2107 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE GREATER THAN HUNDRED SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH CORNER OF RAMONA AVENUE AND EAST OVERTON ROAD.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 24 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED FOUR REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 14? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU, I DO, BUT SINCE MISS ANDREA IS HERE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE EXACT LANGUAGE SO THAT YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC WHILE WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS ACTION. WE NEED A MOTION. I NEED HER TO GIVE IT TO ME, AND I'LL REPEAT THE MOTION.

OKAY. SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO. I KNOW WE DON'T.

WE'VE GOTTEN CAUGHT UP WITH THESE OTHER THREE THAT I HAVE.

POINT OF ORDER. YOU NEED A MOTION. YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. THANK YOU.

I'M NOT BEING CLEAR TODAY. I NEEDED THE THE LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT I COULD READ.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO'S GOING TO GUIDE ME THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I MOVED TO REMAND THIS ITEM BACK TO THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO RE-ADVERTISE.

SECOND. ANY COMMENT? MISS UDREA? YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THIS WAS REQUESTED BY STAFF. WITH OUR DEEP APOLOGIES, WE FOUND THE NOTIFICATION ERROR.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO SEND BILINGUAL NOTICES AND OUT OF THREE NOTICES, ONE OF THEM HAD ONLY ENGLISH.

AND WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH CODE. AND OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO GO BACK AND RE-ADVERTISE AND CONTAIN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH VERSIONS.

SO IT WAS A STAFF ERROR AND THAT'S WHY WE REQUESTED WE WILL DO ANYTHING POSSIBLE TO FAST TRACK IT FOR CPC AND COUNCIL.

AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO MY CONCERN HERE, AS I WANTED TO HAVE THE CORRECT LANGUAGE AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE DOCUMENT, MAYOR, IN MY HAND. SO THE ASSUMPTION WAS THAT MISS UDREA, WHO WOULD GIVE US THAT INFORMATION, WOULD BE ABLE TO READ IT, AND I WOULD BE ABLE TO REPEAT IT SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS.

AND THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE CONFUSED, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD THE EXACT LANGUAGE.

AND SO IF YOU UNDERSTOOD HER, THERE WAS AN OBLIGATION TO PRODUCE THIS REQUEST IN SPANISH AND IN ENGLISH.

AND AND IS IT CORRECT? STAFF FAILED TO DO THAT? YES. THERE IS A THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IN CODE FOR CERTAIN CENSUS DISTRICTS, WE NEED TO EXCEED 50% SPANISH POPULATION.

WE NEED TO ALSO ADVERTISE IN SPANISH. AND WE'RE 99.9% OF THE CASES.

APPARENTLY, WE'RE GOOD WITH IT. WE FAILED THIS TIME, AND I APOLOGIZE.

THANK YOU. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT CLEAR AND THAT WE DON'T SEND OUT NOTICES FROM MY OFFICE, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY SO THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED IN ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE CORRECT DECISION, THE PROPER DECISION, THE DECISION THAT'S BEST FOR THAT COMMUNITY AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

THANK YOU. CNN. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EYES CARRIED. NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY, THANK YOU.

[Z16. 25-940A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for TH-3(A) Townhouse District uses on property zoned a CR Community Retail District with deed restrictions [Z889-234] on a portion, between Marsh Lane and Betty Jane Lane, north of Walnut Hill Lane Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan and conditions Z234-352(MB)]

YOUR NEXT ITEM. Z16.

Z16 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR TH THREE A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ON ON PORTION BETWEEN MARSH LANE AND BETTY JANE LANE, NORTH OF WALNUT HILL LANE.

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MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 38 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST. WE RECEIVED EIGHT REPLIES IN FAVOR AND FOUR REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST, DUE TO RECEIVING GREATER THAN 20% OPPOSITION.

A THREE FOR A THREE QUARTER VOTE IS REQUIRED FOR THE ITEM TO PASS.

YOU DO HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM JOHN WIMBERLY.

MY NAME IS JOHN WIMBERLY. I LIVE AT 25 WIMBERLY COURT, OUR PROPERTY.

I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE WIMBERLY COURT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

OUR OUR DEVELOPMENT IS JUST DIRECTLY ACROSS BETTY JANE LANE FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND I WAS JUST HERE TO SPEAK AS PRESIDENT OF THE HOA, THAT OUR BOARD FULLY SUPPORTS THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THE I WORKED ALONG WITH SHELBY SPOCK, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE WALNUT HILL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE LARGER HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION THAT REPRESENTS WALNUT HILL TO MOREUIL MARSH TO MIDWAY.

AND WE BOTH WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE, LEO AMAYA.

AMAYA, WHO IS HERE? AND WE JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD WORK.

HE WAS VERY RESPECTFUL. WE HAD GREAT DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM.

HE LISTENED TO US. HE INCORPORATED THE. JUST AS YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER.

HE INCORPORATED THE IDEAS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTING HIM, I HOPE.

I REALLY HOPE THAT OTHER DEVELOPERS WOULD LEARN FROM THIS EXPERIENCE AND DO THE SAME THING WHEN THEY MOVE INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PROPERTY.

SO I HOPE YOU SUPPORT IT TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, MICHAEL LEGACY.

MY NAME IS MICHAEL LEGACY. I LIVE AT 10215 GOODING DRIVE.

I'M HERE AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THE WALNUT HILL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO EXPRESS THE BOARD'S SUPPORT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE FEEL THIS WILL ADD TO THE HOUSING STOCK IN THE CITY, BE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WILL REPLACE AN EMPTY PARKING LOT AND A CLOSED COUNTY GOVERNMENT BUILDING THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR FAR TOO LONG.

LEO AMAYA ARE THE DEVELOPERS REPRESENTATIVE WAS COOPERATIVE, RECEPTIVE TO OUR CONCERNS, QUESTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS FOR MAKING THIS A BETTER PROJECT AND WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 16? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD. YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. I'M SORRY.

THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF YOUR MICROPHONE.

THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. HELLO, MY NAME IS LEO AMAYA.

I'M THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE. KIND OF PREPARED SOMETHING HERE REALLY QUICK.

SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT MY DEVELOPMENT, CONSISTING OF THE 31 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES.

IT'S A SITE WHERE AN ABANDONED CITY OF DALLAS BUILDING HAS BEEN SITTING THERE VACANT FOR YEARS.

I BELIEVE GETTING MY ZONING APPROVED FOR A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING THE OPPORTUNITY OF HOMEOWNERSHIP TO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN PRICED OUT IN DALLAS PROPER.

THIS WILL ALSO HELP BRING IN THE TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR GROWING CITY THAT OUR CITY HAS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE PFC THAT WE JUST APPROVED. I'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE WAS HEARD ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THIS ABANDONED LOCATION. FORTUNATELY, MR. HOPKINS NEVER REACHED OUT TO ME OPPOSING THIS PROJECT.

WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE NEXT DOOR TO US? AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, HIS VIEWS ARE JUST OBVIOUSLY TO KEEP IT AS A COMMERCIAL SPACE.

IT'S EXTREMELY SELFISH. SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 16? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.

ANY COMMENT? WELL, I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORS AND MR. AMAYA, THE DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE, HAVE SAID IT ALL.

I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU TOO JEALOUS, BUT THIS WAS A FAIRLY UTOPIAN EXPERIENCE AS BEING RESPECTFUL AND RESPONSIVE BACK AND FORTH ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE WENT, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME AND DEDICATION NOT ONLY OF MR. WIMBERLY, BUT OF MR. AMAYA IN WORKING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

IT'S BRINGING HOUSING TO THIS AREA THAT IS AT THAT MISSING MIDDLE KIND OF PRICE POINT.

SO I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. WITH THAT.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY.

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NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL ZONING CASES BEGINNING WITH ITEM Z 25.

[Z25. 25-949A A public hearing to receive comments regarding a City Plan Commission authorized hearing to determine proper zoning on property zoned Subarea II in Conservation District No. 8, the North Cliff Conservation District with consideration to be given to appropriate zoning for the area to include but not limited to use, development standards, and other appropriate regulations an area generally along both sides of Pierce Street, between the alley north of Gladstone Drive to the north and Catherine Street to the south containing approximately 5.15 acres and an ordinance granting the amendments Recommendation of Staff: Approval of amendments to Subarea II in Conservation District No. 8, the North Cliff Conservation District Recommendation of CPC: Approval of amendments to Subarea II in Conservation District No. 8, the North Cliff Conservation District with the following change: Single family uses are permitted along with the nonresidential uses that are part of staff’s recommendation on the northern portion of City Block 1/3878 where the residential structure is currently located Z189-127(SO/JP)]

ITEM Z 25 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING A CITY PLAN COMMISSION AUTHORIZED HEARING TO DETERMINE PROPER ZONING ON PROPERTY ALONG BOTH SIDES OF PIERCE STREET, BETWEEN THE ALLEY NORTH OF GLADSTONE DRIVE TO THE NORTH AND CATHERINE STREET TO THE SOUTH, CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 5.15 ACRES, AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING THE AMENDMENTS THERE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 204 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED TEN REPLIES IN FAVOR AND 12 REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 25 I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. I'M SHANNON STEPHENS AT 2634 CATHERINE STREET.

I LIVE IN THE NORTH CLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS MY HUSBAND AND I'S FIRST HOME.

THOUGH IT ALREADY FEELS LIKE OUR FOREVER HOME.

WE ONLY MOVED IN LAST OCTOBER, BUT WE'VE BEEN WELCOMED WITH OPEN ARMS AND HAVE WASTED NO TIME GETTING TO KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS AND GETTING INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

I WAS RECENTLY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE NORTH CLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

WHILE I MAY BE A NEW HOMEOWNER, I'M AN OAK CLIFF NATIVE.

MY DAD'S PARENTS MOVED HERE FROM LAREDO TO START THEIR FAMILY, RAISING HIM AND HIS SIX BROTHERS HERE.

MY MOM'S PARENTS MOVED HERE FROM IOWA WITH THEIR TROOP OF SIX KIDS.

I WAS BORN AND GREW UP HERE ATTENDING IDAHO AND LATER SAINT ELIZABETH, THEN GRADUATING FROM BISHOP DUNN.

SO MY ROOTS IN OAK CLIFF RUN DEEP. ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE SO MUCH ABOUT OAK CLIFF IS THAT THERE IS A BALANCED MIX OF OLD AND NEW.

I LOOK AROUND AND SOME THINGS HAVEN'T CHANGED AT ALL FROM WHEN I WAS A KID.

HISTORIC STRUCTURES SIT ALONGSIDE NEW PARKS, CHURCHES AND SHOPS.

NORTHCLIFFE. NORTHCLIFFE IS DOTTED WITH CENTURY OLD HOMES NEXT TO.

COMPLETELY RENOVATED BUILDS ADHERING TO CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

RULES OF COURSE. SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE LIVED ON THEIR BLOCK THEIR ENTIRE LIVES, WHILE OTHERS HAVE COME FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN RECENT YEARS TO SETTLE HERE.

ONE THING THAT HASN'T CHANGED SINCE I WAS A KID IS THE NORTHCLIFFE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE, LARGELY ABANDONED SINCE THE 70S, WHEN I LEARNED THAT A PLAN IS IN THE WORKS TO ADJUST THE ZONING FOR THIS RETAIL NODE IN ORDER TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT. I WAS THRILLED.

NESTLED IN THE HEART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AWAY FROM THE MAIN ROADS, THIS AREA COULD BE A REAL ASSET TO NORTHCLIFFE.

GALLERIES AND STUDIOS COULD HELP DEVELOP OUR ARTIST COMMUNITY.

SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS COULD MOVE INTO OFFICE SPACES AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO LOCALS.

A LANDSCAPED GREEN SPACE AREA COULD SERVE AS A PLACE FOR NEIGHBORS TO GATHER FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.

THERE ARE SO MANY POSSIBILITIES. NORTHCLIFFE NEEDS THIS AREA TO SERVE AS A COMMUNITY HUB.

I BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED OFFER A COMMON SENSE GUIDE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT RESPECTS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S CULTURE, HISTORY, AND DIVERSE POPULATION. I AND MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS FULLY SUPPORT IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE POSITIVE CHANGES IT CAN BRING, AND HOPE THAT YOU WILL TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING. YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. HELLO, I'M MIKE MATTHEWS.

I LIVE AT 2702 ASTER STREET ON THE CORNER OF SUPERIOR, AND I'M IN WALKING DISTANCE A FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM THIS RETAIL CENTER.

I AM A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO HERITAGE OAK CLIFF AND HOC THROUGH HOC. I'VE LEARNED ABOUT MANY NEIGHBORHOODS IN OAK CLIFF.

EACH NEIGHBORHOOD IS A UNIQUE CITY. WHAT MAKES OUR NEIGHBORHOOD UNIQUE IS THIS PARTICULAR RETAIL CENTER WHERE THE SUNSET STREETCAR LINE USED TO STOP. WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAME A CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN THE 80S, THE BUILDINGS LOST ZONING AND HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR DECADES.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ORGANIZED WITH 160 CONTACTS THAT I EMAILED ASKING FOR THEIR RESPONSE TO THE PROPOSED PROPOSED ZONING.

OF THE 29 RESPONSES, ONE NEEDED TO DO RESEARCH.

ONE WAS OPPOSED AND 27 WERE IN FAVOR. THEIR NAMES AND STREETS ARE LISTED IN THE LETTER OF ENDORSEMENT THAT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED. WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GATHERS FOR MEETINGS AT THIS OLD TOWN CENTER, WE BRING OUR CHAIRS. WE SIT OUT THERE AND WE TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THOSE SPACES IF THEY COULD BE RENOVATED AND ZONED FOR USE.

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WE COULD HAVE. WE HAVE PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, ONE WITH A PAINTING STUDIO.

SHE DOES THE PAINTING IN HER HOUSE, BUT SHE COULD HAVE IT IN ONE OF THOSE APARTMENT, ONE OF THOSE SPACES.

WE HAVE A YOGA YOGA STUDIO IN ONE OF THE HOMES.

SHE COULD BE IN THAT SPACE. WE HAVE AN ARTIST WITH AN ART GALLERY IN STUDIO IN HER HOME.

SHE COULD USE THE SPACE. THESE ARE WALKABLE SPACES WHERE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE HOSTED CARNIVALS IN FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS, AND WE HAVE ALSO WORKED WITH THE CITY LAB, HIGH SCHOOL ENGINEERING CLASSES WHO HAVE ENVISIONED THE POSSIBLE USES FOR THESE SPACES.

IF THIS ZONING IS APPROVED, THEN PEOPLE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL THE POSSIBLE POTENTIAL THAT WE COULD HAVE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THIS ZONING BECAUSE US.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AN IDENTITY, BUT THE IDENTITY IS BASED UPON YOUR APPROVING OUR USING OUR BUILDINGS AS IN TERMS OF THEIR FULL POTENTIAL. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THESE BUILDINGS SOMEDAY BEING OCCUPIED ONCE AGAIN. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 25? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CHANGES. FIRST, NONRESIDENTIAL USES ARE PERMITTED IN ANY STRUCTURE IN SUBAREA TWO.

SECOND, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THE ORDINANCE FOR AN ARTS AND CRAFT PRODUCTION FACILITY, ONE SPACE PER 500FT² OF FLOOR AREA IS REQUIRED FOR A RETAIL ART GALLERY.

ONE SPACE PER 600FT² OF FLOOR AREA IS REQUIRED.

SECOND. THANK YOU. COMMENTS COLLEAGUES AND FOR THE PUBLIC, THE NORTH CLIFF AUTHORIZED HEARING IS THE THIRD OF FIVE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS OF THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN, WHICH WE CALL WHOA CAP.

WHOA. CAP WAS UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED BY THIS BODY IN 2022.

AND SO FAR, IT'S LED TO THE DOWNTOWN ELMWOOD AUTHORIZED HEARING, WHICH WAS IN 2024, AND THE JIMTOWN AUTHORIZED HEARING, WHICH WE APPROVED IN JANUARY. THE FIFTH AUTHORIZED HEARING OF THE FIVE CLARENDON EDGEFIELD HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED DUE TO LACK OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL FILERS MOVED AND THE FOURTH AND FINAL CASE, HAMPTON CLARENDON, IS CURRENTLY BEING CONSIDERED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO THIS IS THE THIRD ONE. AS A REMINDER, WHOA.

CAP INCLUDED INPUT FROM 582 RESIDENTS WHO ATTENDED ONLINE MEETINGS BECAUSE IT WAS DURING COVID.

370 RESIDENTS WHO ATTENDED IN-PERSON MEETINGS OUTSIDE THE COVID PERIOD.

AND 952 COMPLETED SURVEYS WITH OVER 17,000 SOCIAL TOUCHPOINTS ON THE WEBSITE FROM RESIDENTS.

THAT LED TO THE ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY.

THIS SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WAS REALLY ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUS AREAS OF WCAP.

YOU CAN LOOK ON THE SCREEN AND SEE REALLY THE CAPSTONE ARTS DECO BUILDING THAT THAT SERVES AS IS THE TOWN CENTER FOR, FOR THIS AREA. I FILED THIS AUTHORIZED HEARING DURING MY TIME AS A PLAN COMMISSIONER, AND I WORKED TO PASS WCAP TO HELP BUMP THIS UP ON THE CASE PRIORITIZATION LIST, ALONG WITH OUR OTHER CAP CASES. WITH YOUR SUPPORT, COLLEAGUES, AND APPROVAL TODAY, WE'LL SET THE STAGE TO REVITALIZE THIS OLD STREETCAR STOP AND POTENTIALLY SAVE THE SPECIAL ART ART DECO RETAIL BUILDINGS THAT MY NEIGHBORS HOPE TO SEE PRESERVED, REHABBED AND BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE WITH NEW USES AS.

AS MY NEIGHBORS SO ELOQUENTLY SAID THIS REZONING IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO POSSIBLY DO THIS BY INCLUDING ART GALLERIES, SMALL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORES AND RESTAURANTS WHILE REDUCING PARKING MINIMUMS FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURES.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE ARE CURRENTLY 15 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREA THAT ARE NON-CONFORMING.

BY ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL USE, INCLUDING ADUS, WE CAN HELP PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA AND ALLOW THE FLEXIBLE RENTAL DENSITY OPTION OF ADUS THAT MOST NEIGHBORS IN THIS AREA SUPPORT.

THIS IS A GREAT PATH TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE GIVING OUR NEIGHBORS MORE HOUSING CHOICES.

SO I MADE TWO AMENDMENTS TODAY. THE FIRST IS TO ALLOW THE USES SUPPORTED BY NEIGHBORS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT AREA.

THERE'S LIKE FIVE BLOCKS WHICH WILL GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS MORE RIGHTS.

THE SECOND AMENDMENT WAS REQUESTED BY STAFF WHO CAN PROVIDE MORE INFO IF YOU GUYS WANT IT, BUT IT WILL ONLY IMPACT BUSINESSES IF THEY EXPAND AND GROW BEYOND THEIR CURRENT FOOTPRINT.

SO I WANT TO THANK NORTHCLIFFE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT PUSHING THIS FORWARD FOR US,

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ESPECIALLY WITH MIKE FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW SINCE 2018.

AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR NEW PRESIDENT, WHO'S JUMPING IN HEAD FIRST, SHANNON SABINS.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK, SINCE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SIX AND A HALF YEARS PLANNERS, MEGAN WEIMER, JALEN PORSCHE, ANDREA GILLIS. COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN CHERNOCK, FORMER COMMISSIONER AMANDA POPKIN AND RICK MCGREGOR.

WE'VE HAD THREE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WORKING ON THIS.

CITY ATTORNEY MATTHEW SAPP AND OF COURSE, JAKE EDINGER AND ASHLEY LONG FROM THE D1 OFFICE.

SO, COLLEAGUES, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TODAY.

SEEING ANY OTHER COMMENT? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT ITEM Z 26 WILL BE HELD TO BE YOUR LAST ZONING CASE ON YOUR AGENDA, MEANING IT WILL FOLLOW ITEM Z 32. IT WILL BE CONSIDERED AFTER ITEM Z 32.

YOUR NEXT ITEM, Z 27 Z 27, IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MF TWO,

[Z27. 25-492A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for MF-2(A) Multifamily District uses and standards on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family District, on the south line of Grant Street, between Ridge Street and South Denley Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to conditions Z234-170(GB/MP) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening the public hearing on January 22, 2025, and is scheduled for consideration on March 26, 2025.]

A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF GRANT STREET BETWEEN RIDGE RIDGE STREET AND SOUTH DENALI DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 105 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST. WE RECEIVED THREE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. WHAT IS IT? I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT WHO DEFERRED THAT ITEM TO BE THE LAST ITEM DISCUSSED. A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL. A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL? YES. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. YOU DO HAVE. YOU DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM.

PAUL CARDEN.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. YOU MAY BEGIN. GOOD AFTERNOON.

COUNCIL. MY NAME IS PAUL CARDEN. I RESIDE AT 636 ASPEN VALLEY LANE IN DALLAS.

I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THESE THREE REZONING CASES.

THIS BEING ONE OF THEM. THIS PROCESS AND PROPOSAL, WHICH STARTED OUT AS AN IDEA TO ADD HIGH QUALITY HOUSING NEAR TRANSIT WHILE IMPROVING INFRASTRUCTURE WAS A CHALLENGING TRIO SITE TO SOLVE FOR THESE THREE SITES.

A FORMER LEGAL JUNKYARD, A CHURCH, AND A VACANT CORNER LOT ARE ALL RELATIVELY SMALL, BUT WORKING TOGETHER THEY CAN ACHIEVE SOMETHING GREATER FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AS THE CITY HAS MADE RECENT EFFORTS TO CORRECT SOME OF THE INEQUITIES AND INVESTMENT IN THE BRENTWOOD COMMUNITY, HOME SIZE AND AFFORDABILITY HAVE ALSO CORRECTED ALONG WITH IT.

THE AREA HAS BEEN SO STARVED OF INVESTMENT FOR THE LAST HALF CENTURY THAT IT IS TEARING DOWN THE 1000 TO 1400 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND DUPLEX HOMES, AND REPLACING THEM WITH 2 TO 3 STORY HOMES PRICED NORTH OF HALF $1 MILLION.

DESPITE HIGH INTEREST RATES, THIS TREND HAS ACCELERATED IN RECENT MONTHS WITH WITH RECENT PERMITS FOR HOMES OVER 4000FT².

WHAT WE CAN APPRECIATE THAT SOME WOULD BUILD WITHOUT CONCERN FOR HOUSING DIVERSITY, AFFORDABILITY.

WE DID NOT WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH. AND SO WE SOUGHT ANOTHER VIABLE ALTERNATIVE.

SO WE PROPOSE A CUSTOM PD THAT ACCOUNTS FOR THE UNIQUE STREET WIDTH.

A PD THAT IMPROVES DEAD ENDS AND TURNS THEM INTO PEDESTRIAN GATEWAYS.

A PD THAT ENABLES MORE FUTURE GENERATIONS TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITY SHOULD THEY CHOOSE.

AND A PD THAT ENABLES MORE TO SHARE THE PANORAMIC VIEW OF THE CITY AND ALL THAT IT OFFERS.

AND WE DID THIS BY LISTENING AND WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY THROUGH MULTIPLE MEETINGS AND ENGAGEMENTS. WHAT STARTED OUT AS A PROPOSAL FOR MOSTLY SMALL SCALE RENTAL APARTMENTS HAS SHIFTED TO AN ALL TOWNHOME DESIGN, WITH MOST UNITS FOR SALE.

MOST UNITS HAVE A PRIVATE YARD. ALL OF THEM HAVE TO HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE, AND ALL OF THEM ARE MORE AFFORDABLE THAN THE THREE STORY MINI MANSION ALTERNATIVES THAT OTHER BUILDERS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE DEFAULTING TO.

CURB CUTS ARE A FRACTION OF WHAT WOULD BE BUILT IN THE CURRENT ZONING, INCREASING SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS.

SETBACKS HAVE INCREASED. FRONT FACING GARAGES ARE BANNED IN THE NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

WILL FORCE SERVICE AND EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS TO BE IMPROVED AS A RESULT.

THIS PD IS UNIQUELY REFLECTIVE OF THE HILLTOP TRANSIT ORIENTED NATURE AND HISTORY OF THIS COMMUNITY.

THIS COMMUNITY HAS WORKED HARD WITH US TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT BOTH PARTIES CAN BE HAPPY WITH AND PROUD OF.

I ASK THAT THIS COUNCIL SHOW SUPPORT TODAY NOT JUST FOR THE PROJECT, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITIES AND THE DEVELOPER WHO HAVE WORKED TOGETHER OVER SEVERAL MONTHS TO TO GET TO THIS POINT. LET YOUR VOTE OF SUPPORT SHOW THAT THE THAT THE TRAILS THAT WE HAVE BUILT FOR THE COMMUNITY, THAT CHILDREN AND ADULTS ENJOY TODAY CAN EXIST AND EXPAND.

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LET YOUR VOTER SUPPORT SHOW THAT COMMUNITIES AND COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND LOCAL DEVELOPERS IS NOT IN VAIN, AND LET YOUR VOTER SUPPORT SHOW THAT TOGETHER WE CAN BUILD A STRONGER BRENTWOOD AND ULTIMATELY A BETTER CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 27 I HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

TESTING. GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL. I'M DAMON LEVINE, AND I'M LOCATED AT 615 SOUTH MORRIS STREET.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU ONCE AGAIN AND ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

I AM HERE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BRENTWOOD TRINITY HEIGHTS COMMUNITY ACTION GROUP, REPRESENTING WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE JOURNEY WITH THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN LONG, BUT WE'RE HERE NOW AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES.

LIKE ANY PROJECT, IT INVOLVES DIFFERING OPINIONS, BUT THAT'S PART OF AUTHENTIC COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

EAST OAK CLIFF IS CHANGING, AND IT TAKES VOICES FROM WITHIN TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT IS NOT WORKING.

AND SO WHILE THOSE OPINIONS MAY VARY, YOU KNOW, IT ALWAYS SHOWS THROUGH INTENTIONAL ACTIONS THAT MEANINGFUL OUTCOMES WILL OCCUR.

INITIALLY, I WAS JUST AS CONCERNED AS MY NEIGHBORS ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

BUT AS THE LEADER OF THE BRENTWOOD TRINITY HEIGHTS COMMUNITY ACTION GROUP, I DID MY HOMEWORK.

I COORDINATED WITH CITY COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD'S OFFICE, THE ZONING COMMISSIONER, MEMBERS OF MY ORGANIZATION AND ALSO NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE I WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS. AND HERE'S THE TRUTH.

WE DON'T WANT APARTMENTS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR TRANSIENT RESIDENTS TO COME INTO THE AREA AND NOT REALLY HELP US DEAL WITH WHAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING THERE.

WHAT WE WANT ARE HOMEOWNERS WHO WILL INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE BETTER.

SO THIS PROJECT PROVES THAT WHEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND DEVELOPERS COLLABORATE, POSITIVE CHANGE DOES HAPPEN.

THESE APARTMENTS HAVE BEEN CONVERTED TO TOWNHOMES, AND EAST OAK CLIFF HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR TOO LONG.

SO WE'RE DETERMINED TO DO WHAT WE MUST TO TAKE MATTERS INTO OUR OWN HANDS.

AND THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE CAN GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

IN BRENTWOOD, WE'VE INFLUENCED THESE ZONING CHANGES.

AS MR. CORNYN HAS SAID, SUPPORTING DATA AROUND THE NATION IS VERY CLEAR.

HOME OWNERSHIP ATTRACTS ESSENTIAL AMENITIES LIKE RETAIL, GROCERY STORES, PHARMACIES THAT WAS MENTIONED ON THIS COUNCIL TODAY WHILE ALLEVIATING ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING SUCH AS PROSTITUTION, DRUG ACTIVITY AND HOMELESSNESS.

AND I BROUGHT THESE CONCERNS UP TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE, BUT I'VE ALSO KEPT IN MIND THAT AN EMPOWERED COMMUNITY CREATES THESE POSITIVE OUTCOMES.

SO I'M ALSO WORKING WITH MR. PAUL CARDIN WITH THIS PROJECT, SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY USE IT AS A VEHICLE TO CLEAN UP THE BLIGHT THAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW. THIS CAN BE A HOLISTIC PROCESS.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT YOU STAND WITH US AND VOTE FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO TAKE PLACE IN THE AREA.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 27? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. NO. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD.

THANK YOU. ON THIS ITEM THERE ARE THREE ITEMS AND I WILL SPEAK ON EACH ONE OF THEM.

ON Z 27, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND I DO HAVE COMMENTS.

SECOND WITH THAT, CHAIRWOMAN MAHONEY. THANK YOU.

THIS WAS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION FOR US TO MAKE.

I WANT TO THANK MOST DEFINITELY THE WORK OF MISS DEBORAH AGUILAR, WHO'S BEEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE BRENTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FOR PROBABLY OVER 20 YEARS. MR. DAMON LEVINE HAS COME IN WITH THE ACTION GROUP, WHICH IS AN ADDED BENEFIT TO GAINING VOICES.

I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MR. PAUL CARDIN ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, AND NOT ALL OF THEM THAT I AGREE ON IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

AND HE KNOWS THAT. AND I MADE SURE TODAY HE KNEW I WAS GOING TO MAKE THOSE STATEMENTS A STATEMENT.

OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD AS WE SUPPORT THIS ITEM AND I ASK YOU TO SUPPORT MISS PHYLLIS LEE.

DOCTOR PHYLLIS LEE, AS WELL AS ONE OF THE GUYS THAT WE CALL SHUCKY DUCKY.

I DON'T KNOW, SOMETIMES I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HIS REAL NAME IS, BUT SHUCKY DUCKY FOR BEING VERY ACTIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY ON THIS.

WE'VE HAD NO LESS THAN PROBABLY FOUR MEETINGS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO INVITE COUNCIL MEMBERS OUT TO GO TO THE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT IS $1 BILLION VIEW OF DOWNTOWN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU SHOULD SEE IT. BUT FOR THE NEGLECT IN THAT COMMUNITY, THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE CODE VIOLATIONS THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON,

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WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THOSE FOR YEARS. ENCAMPMENTS, LACK OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, $1 BILLION SKYLINE.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOU, MR. CARDIN, FOR COMING IN TO WANT TO PUT IN A DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH ALSO IS THE THE LANGUAGE BARRIERS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE CHALLENGES WITH THE FACT OF HOME OWNERSHIP.

AND WE KNOW WHEN WE NOTIFY MAKE NOTIFICATIONS WE GIVE TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND SO THE RENTERS DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF WEIGHING IN.

SO WHEN I WANTED TO PUT THIS ON THE RECORD SO THAT ALL YOU HEARD THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND ONLY 3 OR 4 PEOPLE RESPONDING.

SO THAT'S WHY I FELT LIKE WE HAD TO GO OUT ON MONDAY.

STAFF WENT OUT AND DID A WALK UP TOUR SO THEY WOULD BETTER UNDERSTAND THE GOALS OF MR. CARTON. WHERE WILL THE PARKING BE? THIS IS ON THIS PARTICULAR PLACE.

I BELIEVE IT IS THE CORNER, MR. CARTON. AND SO I WANTED THEM TO SEE, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE VISUAL, WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND I CAN'T SAY I WORRY ABOUT MY MY HEART IS THERE IS GENTRIFICATION.

IT'S GOING TO MOVE THOSE FOLKS OUT AND MOVE AGGRESSIVELY.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT HE'S DOING MODELS OF. THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC AND BEAUTIFUL VIEW.

BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE LANGUAGE AND UNDERSTANDING AND THOSE SENIORS WHO WHO.

MR. CUNNINGHAM, I THINK MAYBE THAT'S HIS NAME.

WHO WERE WORRY. HE'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1968 AND HIS QUESTIONS ARE, WHERE ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK? YOU KNOW, WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO TO MY PROPERTY? AND SO WE TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ON THE RECORD, AS WE MAKE THE PROGRESS, MY CONCERN REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR SUPPORT THAT COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY JUST THROUGH THIS VOTE, BUT THROUGH OUR ACTIONS.

BUT TO YOU, MR. CARDIN, I'LL SAY THAT. AND IN YOUR PARTNERS, PEOPLE DO MATTER.

AND WE DO NEED TO RESPECT THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY ASK QUESTIONS.

WHERE ARE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK? AND SO THAT'S MY CONCERN. WHAT IMPACT IS IT GOING TO HAVE ON OUR PROPERTY VALUES? THOSE ARE SOME VERY BASICS. AND SO I SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENTS SIMILAR TO THAT AROUND THAT COMMUNITY.

BUT TO OUR CITY MANAGER WHO'S NOT HERE, AND YOU'RE SITTING IN FOR HER, CHIEF.

WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB WITH INVESTING IN THAT COMMUNITY WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUPPORT.

CLOSER TO THAT ROOSEVELT, OF COURSE. COMMUNITY AS WELL.

WE NEED IT. THEY NEED IT. SO I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS HE MOVES FORWARD.

BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE ON THE RECORD, I ASK STAFF TO CONTINUE OR TO MONITOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE IMPACT ON THAT COMMUNITY, BECAUSE GENTRIFICATION IS REAL, VERY REAL.

AND EVEN IF THE HOMEOWNER, WHO'S BEEN THERE SINCE 1968 SELLS HIS HOME, HE CANNOT TAKE THAT $300,000 AND GO ANYWHERE TO BUY ANY PROPERTY COMPARABLE TO WHAT HE HAS ON THAT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OF GRANT.

SO THAT'S MY $0.02 ON THIS. AND I'M GOING TO KEEP PUSHING BECAUSE I'M COMMITTED TO THAT, I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED. AND MY HEART IS HEAVY AS I VOTE TODAY FOR THIS.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE PROPERTIES AROUND THERE.

AND TRUST ME, I'VE BEEN THERE DAY NIGHT. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THERE WITH THE CHURCH, TALKING TO THE PASTOR.

I'M. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK THEM. PASTOR HENDERSON, TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT.

AND YOU'RE ACCOMPANYING YOUR PARTNERS ARE NOT VIOLATING SOME VERY BASIC INTERESTS OF THOSE OF THAT COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. DEVIN. MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE KUDOS TO COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD AND GETTING THIS DONE.

THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT. I KNEW IT WAS A GOOD PROJECT BACK IN JANUARY, AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO PAUL FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

TO GET THIS DONE. THANK YOU FOR STAYING COMMITTED TO THE COMMUNITY TO BRING US DIVERSITY IN HOUSING OPTIONS AND AND DEALING WITH WHAT HAD TO BE DEALT WITH IN ORDER TO GET TO THE FINISH LINE. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN SWEETER NOW THAT YOU'RE HERE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN WEST. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR GETTING THIS THROUGH.

AND ALSO MR. CARDIN AS WELL, FOR BEING A CONSCIENTIOUS LOCAL DEVELOPER WHO'S GONE IN AND DONE THE WORK IN THE COMMUNITY, HELD THE MEETINGS YOU NEEDED TO HOLD, AND GONE BACK AND DONE IT AGAIN AND AGAIN WHEN ASKED BY THE CITY.

SO THAT'S IT TAKES TAKES A LOT OF GUMPTION TO DO THAT.

AND YOU'VE DONE IT. AND YOU'RE EXACTLY THE KIND OF PERSON WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, DOING ADAPTIVE REUSE AND PROJECTS OF THAT TYPE.

THANK YOU. SEEING NO OTHER COMMENT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

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AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

ITEM D 28 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MF TWO.

[Z28. 25-494A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for MF-2(A) Multifamily District uses and standards on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family District, on the north line of Grant Street and south line of Front Street, west of South Denley Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to conditions Z234-198(LG/MP) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening the public hearing on January 22, 2025, and is scheduled for consideration on March 26, 2025.]

A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF GRANT STREET AND SOUTH LINE OF FRONT STREET, WEST OF SOUTH DELHI DRIVE. MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 123 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST. WE RECEIVED FIVE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER, PAUL CARDIN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, PAUL CARDIN. 636 ASHTON VALLEY LANE.

THIS IS THE MIDDLE OF THE THREE SITES. I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, JUST AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS JUST HOW MUCH THE THE COMMUNITY ON GRANT STREET HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN PROVIDING FEEDBACK.

AND NOT JUST THAT, BUT JUST WORKING WITH US IN TERMS OF CLEANING UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I MENTIONED AT ONE POINT THAT WE DID HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I ORIGINALLY BOUGHT ONE OF THE PROPERTIES, AN ILLEGAL JUNKYARD, AND IT WAS THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH US TO MAKE SURE THE LOGISTICS OF GETTING STUFF CLEANED UP TO KEEP US INFORMED AND MAKE SURE THAT WE KEPT THE BLOCKS.

SAFE AND DID THE BEST WE COULD TO KIND OF CLEAN UP AND DO WHAT WE CAN WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAD THERE TODAY.

I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO JUST SAY THAT THE PAST OF THE CHURCH FOR WHERE THIS SITE IS HAS ALSO BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN JUST GETTING US THE HISTORY AND CONTEXT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT AS WE REFINED AND REFORM THIS PROJECT WE PRODUCED SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY COULD BE PLEASED WITH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS DAMON LEVINE, LOCATED AT 615 SOUTH MORRIS STREET.

YEAH. I WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THE GRANT COLLECTION IS IT'S A IT'S A SYSTEM.

AND I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. YOU KNOW, DISTRICT FOUR MAYOR PRO TEM ARNOLD OR COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY ACTION GROUP, ARE THINGS LIKE PARKING. SO I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.

ONE OF THE MAJOR, I WOULD SAY, INITIAL ARGUMENTS THAT I SORT OF HAD WITH PAUL WAS EXACTLY THAT.

WHERE ARE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK IF THESE TRANSIENT NEIGHBORS COME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WHERE'S ALL OF THIS COMMOTION GOING TO TAKE PLACE, AND AM I GOING TO BE AFFECTED? SO PART OF MY MISSION WITH THE COMMUNITY ACTION GROUP IS EXACTLY THAT.

ADDRESSING GENTRIFICATION. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT OUR TAGLINE IS PRESERVING WHAT WE HAVE.

SO I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I WANTED THAT VOICE TO BE DIRECTLY LAID INTO THE THE GRANT COLLECTION SO THAT WE CAN ALLEVIATE WHAT I SEE AS GENTRIFICATION AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 28? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. WHAT? WHAT DO WE HAVE A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SECOND. ANY COMMENT? YES, THERE ARE COMMENTS, ONCE AGAIN, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE LISTENING.

AND I'M GLAD THAT MR. LEVINE HAS JOINED THAT COMMUNITY ONCE AGAIN.

I'VE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY. MRS. DEBORAH AGUILAR OVER THE YEARS, AND SHE'S BEEN ONE OF THOSE THAT CALLS IN AND GETS DATA.

AND I DO WEIGH HER SENTIMENT HEAVILY IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING.

BUT WHAT I'M BEGINNING TO SEE, AND NOT TOTALLY ON THIS CASE, BUT I JUST BELIEVE WE TAKE FOR GRANTED OFTENTIMES.

AND I KIND OF SAW THIS HERE. THIS IS WHY I INSISTED THAT WE HAVE THOSE MEETINGS.

AND I BROUGHT IN THE PASTOR BECAUSE HE'S KIND OF THE LOCATION WHERE WE COULD MEET SAFELY.

BUT OFTENTIMES, I THINK THIS PROJECT WAS GOING TO GO LEFT HAD WE NOT INSISTED ON HAVING THESE MEETINGS.

BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A LOW RESPONSE, YOU GET TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

AND WE SEE THAT WITH DEVELOPMENT. AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WE WERE THERE, TALK TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE DONE ALL THAT WE COULD DO FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING TO GET THOSE WITHIN 500FT.

AND SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO REALLY GET THOSE. AS MY STAFF HAS WALKED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, GRANT STREET, AT LEAST 2 OR 3 TIMES, WE'VE GIVEN LETTERS. I'VE BEEN OUT THERE. I SIT ON THE CORNER WITH FOLKS OVER AT DRINKING BEER ON THE CORNER OF GRANT STREET, AND I'VE TALKED TO THEM WHILE THEY WERE DRINKING THEIR BEER, AND THEY DID NOT WANT ALL OF THIS CONFUSION AND CONGESTION.

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BUT THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE NOT WEIGHING IN THROUGH THE LEGAL SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE, MAKING A DECISION AND ASKING COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE FUTURE OF THAT COMMUNITY.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, THE GENTRIFICATION, THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND ONCE AGAIN, THE PARKING.

WHEN WE'RE ON THE STREETS AND YOU'LL HAVE TO SEE THAT YOU IF YOU GO OUT THERE TO SEE IT PUBLIC.

ARE YOU IN THE AUDIENCE? WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL STREET WALKERS.

THEY'RE JUST WALKING ALL TIME OF THE DAY AND NIGHT.

AND I'VE DRIVEN THAT. I DON'T GO AT MIDNIGHT, BUT I GO AND SO IF THEY'RE PARKED ON THE STREET, THEN GUESS WHAT HAPPENS? IT IS VANDALIZED. WE START CALLING 911.

WE'RE CALLING THE POLICE FOR A SITUATION THAT WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED HAD WE BUILT IN PARKING CORRECTLY.

AND SO THOSE THESE ARE SOME OF MY CONCERNS, DEEP CONCERNS, MR. PAUL CARDIN AND THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO, WHO WHO WEIGH IN ON, ON ON PROJECTS IN DISTRICT FOUR FOR SURE.

BECAUSE THEY THINK I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT. AND SO THEY'RE HERE TO SAVE YOU. BUT I HAVE TO BE HERE FOR THE PEOPLE.

AND I HAVE TO SAY WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT ME TO SAY.

SO WE'RE SUPPORTING THIS PROJECT. BUT IT IS ONCE AGAIN A HEAVY HEART BECAUSE I KNOW GENTRIFICATION IS HERE.

I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THOSE CARS ARE ON THE STREETS. AND I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WILL WILL HAPPEN IF WE GIVE THEM BROKEN PROMISES.

SO WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE. WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMITMENT BY THE CITY THAT THEY WILL MOVE IN.

AND THE DPD HAS BEEN GREAT. WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A HEAVY FOOTPRINT FROM THIS CITY TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY TO BE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT TO BE. MR. LEVINE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MR. LEVINE WENT TO BUT, MR. LEVINE I LOVE YOUR ENERGY, MRS. DEBBIE AGUILAR.

BUT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO STAY WOKE ON THIS PROJECT.

SERIOUSLY? BECAUSE PEOPLE PROMISE US THINGS AS DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS.

THEY DO A LITTLE BIT. THEY DON'T COME BACK OR THEY DON'T COME BACK AFTER THE COUNCIL VOTE.

SO HANDLE UP ON YOUR BUSINESS. TAKE CARE OF THIS COMMUNITY.

THAT IS $1 BILLION VIEW OF THIS CITY. IT IS FANTASTIC TO SEE FROM WHERE YOU ALL ARE.

SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, I ASK YOU TO VOTE TO SUPPORT THEM, TO AT LEAST GIVE THEM A START.

BUT I TELL YOU THAT PASTOR HENDERSON WILL BE WATCHING BECAUSE I'M GOING TO STAY IN CONTACT WITH HIM AS HE PUSHES FOR THE RESPECT THAT THAT COMMUNITY NEEDS. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, SEEING NO ONE ELSE DO A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY.

NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY. ITEM D 29 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MF2.

[Z29. 25-495A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for MF-2(A) Multifamily District uses and standards on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family District, on the southwest corner of Grant Street and South Denley Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to conditions Z234-202(MB) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening the public hearing on January 22, 2025, and is scheduled for consideration on March 26, 2025.]

A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF GRANT STREET AND SOUTH DENNY DRIVE.

MISTER MAYOR, WE SENT 125 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED FIVE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

YOU DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER, PAUL CARDIN.

PAUL CARDEN, 636 ASSAM VALLEY LANE, DALLAS. THIS IS THE CORNER LOT AT THE CORNER OF GRAND AND DENLEY.

I WILL TAKE THIS TIME TO TAKE, JUST TO MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS SPECIFIC TO THIS DESIGN.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF THIS PD, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAME ACROSS WAS, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, IS JUST THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT ALSO THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A DESIGN MANUAL, REALLY, FOR ROADS UNDER 50FT WIDE. AND SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE CASES WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO IN THE PD, ACCOUNT FOR IMPROVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ACTUALLY WIDENING THAT STREET, BECAUSE THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT WIDTH, I BELIEVE IS 26FT TODAY. AND SO HOW DO WE GET THAT UP TO 40FT AND IMPROVE THE WIDTH OF THAT.

BUT I WOULD ASK THAT AS THIS CASE IS WORKED THROUGH, THAT THE CITY DOES LOOK AT DESIGN STANDARDS FOR OUR SMALLER SCALE STREETS, BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE SMALLER SCALE STREETS ARE IN UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH AS THIS.

AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE SON OF MR. SHANNON, THE NEIGHBOR TO THIS PROPERTY MICHAEL BURROW.

MICHAEL BURROW HAS SPENT ALMOST A YEAR NOW DOING LEADING THE VAST BULK OF THE CLEANUP, TRAIL CONSTRUCTION AND JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT BLOCK HAS STAYED AS CLEAN AND AS SAFE AS WE COULD.

HE'S KEPT ME VERY WELL INFORMED. HE'S WORKED WITH ME.

AND IN TERMS OF FIGURING OUT THE BEST WAYS TO TO TO SECURE PROPERTIES, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, CREATE TRAILS THAT THE KIDS CAN ENJOY.

YOU KNOW, THE THE FAMILIES ON GRANT STREET HAVE AGAIN, BEEN AN ENORMOUS HELP, BUT I JUST WANT TO I WOULD I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T GIVE MR. BURRELL A SPECIAL THANKS OF GRATITUDE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 29? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, WE HAVE A MOTION. Z 29. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY CITY PLAN COMMISSION.

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ANY COMMENTS? YES, SIR. THANKING MY COMMISSIONER, MR. TOM FORSYTH, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT HE'S DONE ON THESE PROJECTS.

HE'S KIND OF TAKEN A BEATING ON BEATING ON HIS STANCE IN FIGHTING FOR NEIGHBORS.

AND HE AND I HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS AND FIGHTING FOR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GIVE HIM THAT CREDIT TODAY.

BUT ALSO THE COMMENTS THAT ARE MADE ABOUT THE STREETS AND WIDENING THE STREETS.

AND THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF COMMENTS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MR. CARDIN, THAT WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT BECAUSE THE CITY STAFF IS IS NOT THERE'S NO BOND FUNDING OR NOTHING.

NO, NO FUNDING IN PLACE RIGHT NOW TO DO SOME OF WHAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED TO THAT COMMUNITY.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THEY RAISED WITH ME. WHAT ARE WE WHAT ARE WE PROMISING? AND SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT TO MR. LEVINE, TO MR. AGUILAR. YOU ALL REALLY NEED TO FOLLOW THE MONEY.

IF IT'S NOT THERE, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET IT? THERE'S ANOTHER BOND.

HOW DOES IT HAPPEN? BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT PROMISES ARE JUST THAT PROMISES.

AND THIS IS WHY THAT COMMUNITY, I BELIEVE, HAS LOST FAITH IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IN CLOSING MY COMMENTS, ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT US, TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU ONCE AGAIN, THE GENTRIFICATION IS GOING TO KILL SOME OF THE FOLKS.

THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S BEEN ON THE CORNER SINCE 1968, WHEN HE PROBABLY BOUGHT HIS HOUSE FOR $5,000 CAN'T GO ANYWHERE. AND SO GENTRIFICATION, ALIENATION, LACK OF UNDERSTANDING, LANGUAGE BARRIERS, IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE. VICTIMIZED BY PROGRESS.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY IT. AND ONCE AGAIN, I'M GOING TO COMMIT TO YOU ALL AS WELL THAT MY MESSAGE IS TO THE PASTOR HENDERSON AND GREATER PLEASANT CHURCH WILL BE THERE WATCHING YOU AND MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS NOT DISRESPECTED IN A WAY THAT WE CAN'T BOUNCE BACK FROM. BUT WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS ONCE AGAIN FOR THE SAFETY OF THAT COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT WOULD BOOST SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOPEFULLY.

BUT MY HEART IS HEAVY AND I WANT THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT.

BUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I INSISTED ON THOSE MEETINGS.

WE WERE THERE AT THE MEETINGS AND WE, AS I SAID FOR THE RECORD, BOOTS ON THE GROUND ON MONDAY.

WAS IT MONDAY, MR. GORDON, TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO SHOWED UP COULD BE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL.

TO UNDERSTAND WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I EVEN ASK YOU TO START TALKING IN LAYMAN'S TERMS SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND.

SO I THANK YOU FOR AT LEAST TRYING TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT PLEASE DON'T DO US WRONG. THAT'S ALL I ASK.

DON'T DO US WRONG. BECAUSE THAT'S THAT IS EXACTLY WHY THIS COMMUNITY HAS LOST FAITH IN THE SYSTEM.

AND THAT IS A PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN AND HISPANIC COMMUNITY.

SO I WANT TO PUT THAT I'M PUTTING IT ON THE RECORD TODAY.

SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, WITH ALL THAT I'VE SAID, AND PERHAPS SOME OF YOU LISTENING AND SOME OF YOU HAVE NOT, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC WHO TELLS ME THEY DO WEIGH IN AND LISTEN IN TO US, I WANT THEM TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I AM TODAY WITH THIS PROJECT, AND IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRIVE THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WILL SEE AND SEE WHAT I MAYBE YOU WILL SEE WHAT I'M DESCRIBING TO YOU.

IT IS A CHALLENGE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M ASKING THAT YOU SUPPORT MR. CARDIN AND THOSE AROUND THE HORSESHOE WHO THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BEAT HIM UP TODAY.

SO THEY HAD TO SAY SOMETHING TODAY. DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS ALREADY WITH THE PEOPLE.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE COUNCIL MEMBER, IT'S THE PEOPLE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MAYOR, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY HERE TODAY, IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS COMMUNITY, AND THEY DESERVE THE RESPECT OF THIS DEVELOPER AND OF THIS CITY.

OKAY. WITH THAT, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRIED. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, ITEM Z30 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR ONE,

[Z30. 25-754A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for application for (1) an amendment to Tract II within Planned Development District No. 234; and (2) a Specific Use Permit for a service station on the east side of South Cockrell Hill Road, south of Corral Drive Recommendation of Staff: Denial Recommendation of CPC: Denial without prejudice Z234-224(LC) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening the public hearing on February 12, 2025, and is scheduled for consideration on March 26, 2025]

AN AMENDMENT TO TRACK TWO WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, THREE, FOUR AND TWO, A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SERVICE STATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH COCKRELL HILL ROAD, SOUTH OF CORRAL DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 34 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION DUE TO A CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.

THIS ITEM REQUIRES THREE QUARTERS VOTE TO PASS.

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THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 30? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO DENY THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY CPC.

SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. IN THE COMMENT? NO COMMENT.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY.

NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY. ITEM Z 31 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN LEIGH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION OF A CSS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON

[Z31. 25-496A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an LI Light Industrial District with consideration of a CS Commercial Service District on property zoned an A(A) Agricultural District with Specific Use Permit No. 890 for a radio, television or microwave tower, on the southwest line of South Central Expressway, between Youngblood Road and Lyndon B. Johnson Freeway Recommendation of Staff: Approval of a CS Commercial Service District in lieu of an LI Light Industrial District Recommendation of CPC: Approval of a CS Commercial Service District in lieu of an LI Light Industrial District Z234-287(LC) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening the public hearing on January 22, 2025, and is scheduled for consideration on March 26, 2025.]

PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY BETWEEN YOUNGBLOOD ROAD AND LYNDON B JOHNSON FREEWAY.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT SEVEN NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 31? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? NO. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

NEXT ITEM. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY. ITEM Z 32 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT

[Z32. 25-919A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a commercial amusement (inside) on property zoned Subdistrict 1 within Planned Development District No. 534, the C.F. Hawn Special Purpose District No. 2, on the northeast line of C.F. Hawn Freeway, west of Pleasant Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a five-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a three-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z234-315(AU/WK) Note: This item was deferred by the City Council before opening the public hearing on February 12, 2025, and is scheduled for consideration on March 26, 2025.]

INSIDE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF CF HAN FREEWAY, WEST OF PLEASANT DRIVE.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 12 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 32? YOU KNOW, SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

THE SUP IS APPROVED FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD. SECOND.

ANY COMMENT? NO COMMENT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

[Z26. 25-950A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Planned Development District for MU-2 Mixed Use District uses on property zoned a CR Community Retail District, on the southeast corner of Preston Road and Belt Line Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan, a development plan, and staff’s recommended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan, a development plan, and CPC recommended conditions Z212-358(JM)]

WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO ITEM Z 26. ITEM Z 26 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MU DASH TWO MIXED USE DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PRESTON ROAD AND BELTLINE ROAD.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 220 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST. WE RECEIVED TWO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND 107 REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

YOU HAVE 35 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

I'LL CALL THE FIRST TEN. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST TWO ROWS OF THE CENTER SECTION.

WILLIAM ROTH, ADAM LAMONT, NATALIE. LEVESQUE, CHLOE LEVESQUE, MATTHEW HAVENER, REBECCA KORNBLUM, JUDY NORDSTROM, DIANE BENJAMIN, DAMIEN LEVESQUE, AND JOHN COX.

WILLIAM ROTH, YOU MAY COME TO THE PODIUM. YOU'LL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS WILLIAM ROTH. I LIVE AT 6921 MEADOW ROAD IN DALLAS, TEXAS, AND HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT IN DISTRICT 11 FOR OVER 45 YEARS. THE RESIDENTS OF EACH OF YOUR DISTRICTS ARE WATCHING YOU TODAY.

THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY AS A LEADERSHIP BODY TO SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT THE REASONABLE CONCERNS OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, WHICH IMPACT THOSE RESIDENTS, ARE PARAMOUNT OVER THE REQUESTS FROM OTHER PARTIES.

THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AS LEADERSHIP BODY TO SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT THIS COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS WILL REQUIRE MEANINGFUL, RESPECTFUL AND EARNEST ATTEMPTS TO ARRIVE AT REASONABLE SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS THOSE REASONABLE CONCERNS AND THAT YOU WILL OPPOSE THOSE REQUESTS THAT DON'T FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTS IN THIS CASE ARE REASONABLE, BUT THE PROCESS TOWARDS ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS HAS NOT BEEN ADEQUATELY FOLLOWED.

THE SEA OF YELLOW IN THIS ROOM IS A SIGNAL FOR CAUTION AND WARNING TO DEFEND AND PROTECT YOUR RESIDENCES.

LISTENING, RESPONDING, AND COMMUNICATING TO THE RESIDENTS OF YOUR DISTRICTS SHOULD BE YOUR PRIORITY.

YOUR RESIDENTS ARE WATCHING YOU TODAY. PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THEM.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ADAM. LAMONT. HELLO. ADAM.

LAMONT. 9432 AMBERTON PARKWAY. DISTRICT TEN. SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE PEPPER SQUARE REZONING.

WHAT A TRIP IT'S BEEN TO GET HERE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS.

I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE PEPPER SQUARE CASE PRETTY CLOSELY.

YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I TEACH A COUPLE MILES DOWN THE ROAD.

AND I ALSO, YOU KNOW, LIVE NEARBY, DRIVE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.

VERY. I'LL JUST SAY THAT PEPPER SPRAY IS A GREAT PLACE.

AN ALMOST PERFECT PLACE FOR US TO ADD NEW HOUSING THROUGHOUT FOR DALLAS, PEOPLE WERE PUSHING FOR HOUSING YOU KNOW, IN PLACES LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW SHOPPING CENTERS THAT ARE UNDERUSED.

YOU KNOW, I'M QUOTING HERE FROM THE NORTH DALLAS NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, GROWTH SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT ABANDONED AND DERELICT SHOPPING CENTERS.

SO MY, YOU KNOW, MY REQUEST IS THAT WE DO GO BIG THAT WE GET AS MANY HOUSING UNITS HERE AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AS MANY PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE AT PEPPER SQUARE AS, YOU KNOW, AS POSSIBLE.

WE'VE ALREADY MADE A LOT OF CHANGES AND COMPROMISE.

WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY WE, BUT THE PROCESS HAS ALREADY MADE A LOT OF CHANGES AND COMPROMISES TO GET TO THIS POINT.

WE SHOULD KEEP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THIS COMPLEX, AND WE SHOULD MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BENEFITS, NOT JUST FOR THE INDIVIDUALS, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

MY MOTHER IN LAW LIVES ABOUT EIGHT MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD FROM HERE. I'M REALLY EXCITED, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO USE THE NEW GREEN SPACE.

AND, YOU KNOW, MEET UP WITH HER NEARBY. SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS REZONING AND HOPE THAT COUNCIL PASS IT TODAY.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, NATALIE LEVESQUE.

HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS NATALIE LEVESQUE. I LIVE AT 6215 GEORGIAN COURT.

TODAY, AS I STAND WITH MY NEIGHBORS, 91% OF WHOM ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT, I FIND COMFORT IN THE CAMPAIGN PROMISES THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE MADE TO US ON YOUR WEBSITES. IN DISTRICT ONE, WE'RE PROMISED AN ADVOCATE WORKING TO PRESERVE THE FABRIC OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

IN DISTRICT FIVE, OUR REPRESENTATIVE PLEDGES TO EMPOWER OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND GIVE RESIDENTS A VOICE IN DISTRICT WIDE ISSUES.

IN DISTRICT NINE, WE HAVE A STRONG VOICE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS IN DISTRICT TEN.

WE'RE PROMISED AN ADVOCATE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS IN DISTRICT 11.

WE'RE TOLD I MAKE SURE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A STRONG VOICE IN ZONING ISSUES IN DISTRICT 13.

WE ARE ASSURED OF NEIGHBORHOOD FOCUS, LEADERSHIP, AND NEIGHBORS FIRST.

THANK YOU EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR STANDING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY AND SHOWING US THAT YOUR WORDS ARE NOT MERE CAMPAIGN PLATITUDES BECAUSE IT'S ELECTION SEASON, BUT THAT YOU, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ARE TRULY ADVOCATES FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING AN ADVOCATE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHLOE LEVESQUE.

OKAY. READY? OKAY. YOU TALK. HI. MY NAME IS CHLOE LEVITT AND I LIVE ON 6215 GEORGIAN COURT. AND I'M ASKING THAT YOU SAVE OPEN AIR.

AND I HOPE. AND I HOPE THAT YOU VOTE FOR MOMMY AND DADDY.

AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU WILL GET A TIME OUT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? THANK YOU. TWO TIME ROUNDS.

THANK YOU. MATTHEW HAVNER. MATTHEW HAVNER. IS NOT PRESENT. REBECCA KORNBLUM IS NOT PRESENT.

JUDY DORSETT. HI. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TODAY.

MY NAME IS JUDY MORD-SITH AND I LIVE AT 14 220 HUGHES LANE.

I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 40 YEARS, AND I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.

IF THIS ZONING PROPOSAL IS APPROVED, THE BEAUTIFUL, PEACEFUL VIEW FROM MY BACKYARD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY TREES AND BEAUTIFUL GREENERY,

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WILL BE REPLACED BY TOWERING 12 STORY BUILDINGS.

INSTEAD OF ENJOYING THE SERENITY OF MY HOME, I'LL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT APARTMENT DWELLERS LOOKING DOWN FROM THEIR HIGH SPOTS INTO MY HOUSE, MY BACKYARD AND MY SWIMMING POOL WHERE MY 12 CHILDREN GRANDCHILDREN SWIM.

OF COURSE, MY NEIGHBORS ALL HAVE THIS SAME SITUATION AT THIS STAGE OF MY LIFE.

I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE WORRYING ABOUT NEW PRIVACY CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE AREN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

THE PROPOSAL IS FOR LUXURY APARTMENTS. IF YOU DO SAY YES TODAY, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

WHY SHOULD MY FAMILY'S PRIVACY BE COMPROMISED JUST FOR A DEVELOPER TO MAXIMIZE THEIR PROFITS? I HOPE YOU'LL STAND UP FOR NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY AND VOTE NO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DIANE. BENJAMIN.

OKAY. OKAY. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF THAT MICROPHONE. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE.

OKAY. YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. OKAY. DIANE BENJAMIN 6530 WAGNER DALLAS.

DISTRICT 13. THIS IS NOT AN APPEAL TO YOUR SYMPATHY, BUT I AM A FORMER PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF THE, A 950 MEMBER HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE CONCERN AND BE THE VOICE FOR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

AND I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK SANDY GRAYSON FOR HELPING US START OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AS WELL.

I'M ALSO A 46 YEAR VETERAN REALTOR AND WAS THE TOP PRODUCER OF THE HENRY MS MILLER OFFICE IN PRESTON ROYAL BEFORE THEY STOPPED THE RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE OFFICES.

AS REALTORS, WE TOOK AN OATH TO PROTECT THE WELFARE AND THE SECURITY AND THE THE VALUES OF PEOPLE'S HOMES.

IN MANY INSTANCES, THIS IS BASICALLY A PERSON'S PROBABLY IS MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT OF HIS LIFETIME IS HIS HOME. ONE OF THE PROMISES OF FORWARD DALLAS WAS TO PROTECT THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENSURE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT FITS IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

IN NORTH DALLAS, WE DON'T HAVE APARTMENT BUILDINGS TALLER THAN FOUR STORIES.

FOUR STORIES. APPROVING THIS REQUEST, ALLOWING MULTIPLE 12 STORY TOWERS NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DOESN'T JUST BREAK WITH THE PRECEDENT. IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY THAT YOUR CHARACTER, YOUR VOICE, AND YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS NEGOTIABLE. MANY OF YOU HAVE STOOD BEFORE US AND PLEDGED TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES.

YOU PROMISED TO LISTEN, TO RESPECT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, AND TO PRESERVE WHAT MAKES THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SO SPECIAL AND SAFE.

TODAY, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PROVE THAT THESE WERE JUST NOT CAMPAIGN SLOGANS.

BUT YOU'RE WILLING TO STAND BY YOUR WORD. THAT'S YOUR TIME.

LOOK AROUND YOU. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. WHO DO YOU ANSWER TO? THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DAMIEN LEVESQUE. OKAY. DAMIEN LEVESQUE IS NOT PRESENT.

JACK COX. OKAY.

TOO MANY DEVICES.

READY? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JACK COX. I RESIDE AT 7658 EL PENSADOR DRIVE IN DALLAS.

ALSO IN DISTRICT 11. I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION OF DALLAS AND OUR OPPOSITION TO THE CURRENT PLAN TO REDEVELOP PEPPER SQUARE. OUR COALITION CONSISTS OF NEARLY 1400 RESIDENTS IN DALLAS.

ACTUALLY, THAT MAKE UP OR RESIDE IN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT IN OUR CITY.

WE AGREE THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DALLAS.

WE ALSO AGREE THAT PEPPER SQUARE NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED.

WHERE WE MAY DIFFER IS HOW TO OBTAIN IT, PER THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE.

THE TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC FOR THESE LUXURY APARTMENTS IS THOSE MAKING AN AVERAGE OF $118,000 ANNUALLY.

CLEARLY NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OUR OPPOSITION ALSO INCLUDES THE PROPOSED 12 STORY BUILDING HEIGHT AND 984 APARTMENTS

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ADDED TO THE 3345 APARTMENTS AND CONDOS ALREADY SLATED TO BE BUILT CLOSE TO PEPPER SQUARE.

THE TRAFFIC STRAIN ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, AND IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA IS SIMPLY TOO MUCH.

AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU OFTEN ACKNOWLEDGE THE NEED TO ENGAGE AND LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE PUBLIC.

TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO EXACTLY THAT. THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CURRENT PLAN AND ARE HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.

WILL YOU LISTEN? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL NOW CALL THE NEXT GROUP IF YOU'RE IN PERSON.

I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT IN THE FIRST TWO ROWS OF THE CENTER SECTION.

KEVIN WINTERS, STEPHEN NAUSET, SERENA NOLAN, NATE HEMBY, PHILIP KINGSTON, DEBORAH GREENING, CRYSTAL ROBERTS, ROY ATWOOD, LARA LAWSON, BOB BURNS, LINDA WARD, AND HOLLY FREE. KEVIN WINTERS IS VIRTUAL. KEVIN WINTERS, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YOU MAY. I CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. HELLO, I'M KEVIN WINTERS, AND I LIVE AT 5726 GLEN HEATHER DRIVE IN DISTRICT 12.

I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY THANKING THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THIS REZONING.

I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE REZONING FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PEPPER SQUARE.

I VISIT PEPPER SQUARE FREQUENTLY AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THRIVING BUSINESSES AND HOME IN A NEW SETTING.

BELTLINE AND PRESTON IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PROFILE INTERSECTIONS OF NORTH DALLAS, AND DESERVES COMMENSURATE INVESTMENT BY THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

DISTRICT 11 HAS ALREADY SEEN THE VALLEY VIEW MALL AREA DECLINE TO A POINT WHERE IT IS BARELY SALVAGEABLE.

IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO COMMIT PEPPER SQUARE TO THE SAME DESTINY AS IT BECOMES A BARELY OCCUPIED STRIP MALL.

I'M CERTAIN THAT AREA RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT PEPPER SQUARE TO BECOME VALLEY VIEW 2.0, WHICH IS WHY I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT SO MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS WOULD PREFER RISKING SIMILAR BLIGHT THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY NEGLECT OF THIS PROPERTY.

EVEN MORE DISAPPOINTING IS THE PERVASIVENESS OF SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS, SPREADING FEARS OF TERRIBLE TRAFFIC AND UNWANTED RENTERS, TAINTING THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF THE PROJECT.

I HOPE THAT THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPERS PROCEED WITH A PROJECT THAT MAKES THE COMMUNITY PROUD.

WITH A MIX OF HOUSING, COMMERCE AND FAMILY FRIENDLY GREEN SPACE LIKE THAT OF THE NEARBY HILLCREST VILLAGE.

NORTH DALLAS, IN GENERAL HAS A BAD REPUTATION OF WANTING TO ACT LIKE A SUBURB RATHER THAN A CITY, RESISTING EFFORTS TO BE A PART OF THE SPIRIT OF DALLAS.

WHILE SOME CLAIM THAT SIMPLY BY PURCHASING A HOME IN THE CITY, THEY HAVE A PRESUMPTION OF SOME CONTRACT THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE COMPELLED TO FACE CHANGE.

I FIND THE OPPOSITE OF THAT TO BE TRUE. WHEN RESIDENTS PURCHASE A HOME IN DALLAS, WE ARE EMPOWERING THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY AT LARGE TO MAKE NECESSARY DECISIONS THAT MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD. WITH THE ENTIRETY OF THE COUNCIL ELECTED BY RESIDENTS ACROSS ALL DISTRICTS.

I REPEAT THAT I AM FOR THE APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING, AND THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.

THANK YOU. STEPHEN. HELLO, I'M STEVE NORDSTEDT. I RESIDE AT 14 220 HUGHES LANE.

I'VE LIVED THERE FOR IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 40 YEARS.

AN EXTRAORDINARY FACT UNDERSCORES THE DEPTH OF OUR CONCERN.

100% OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS WITHIN THE 500 FOOT NOTIFICATION RADIUS RETURNED THEIR BALLOTS, AND 100% OF THOSE BALLOTS REGISTERED OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING.

MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE LONG STANDING MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THEIR ROOTS ARE DEEPLY EMBEDDED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS UNANIMOUS RESPONSE IS A POWERFUL TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH OF OUR COLLECTIVE OPPOSITION.

WHILE IT'S CUSTOMARY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DEFER TO THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE IN ZONING MATTERS, THIS CASE PRESENTS UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES. THE DISTRICT 11 COUNCIL MEMBERS UPCOMING DEPARTURE UNDER LESS THAN IDEAL CIRCUMSTANCES NECESSITATES A MORE INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT. I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS OF YOUR DECISION.

VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS REZONING WILL LEAVE A LASTING STAIN ON YOUR RECORD, A MARK THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE, TO ERASE. LET ME BE CLEAR.

OUR COMMUNITY IS UNITED AND RESOLUTE. WE REPRESENT A GROUP OF 3000 ENERGIZED MEMBERS, THOUGH MANY OF US RESIDE OUT YOUR OUTSIDE YOUR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS.

WE ARE PREPARED TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN FUTURE ELECTIONS SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO DISREGARD OUR CONCERNS AND APPROVE THIS REZONING.

WE DEDICATE OUR RESOURCES, BOTH FINANCIAL AND THROUGH GRASSROOTS EFFORTS TO SUPPORT YOUR OPPONENTS.

FURTHERMORE, WE WILL AMPLIFY OUR MESSAGE THROUGH SUSTAINED AND WIDESPREAD SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN,

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ENSURING THAT YOUR DECISION IS THOROUGHLY UNDERSTOOD BY THE BROADER ELECTORATE.

WE IMPLORE YOU TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF THE RESIDENTS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS REZONING.

PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL AND UPHOLD THE INTEGRITY.

INTEGRITY OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SERENA. NOLAN.

I JUST HAVE A BLOCK ON IT. I WILL START THE CLOCK WHEN YOU BEGIN.

THANK YOU. THANKS. OKAY. SERENA. NOLAN. DISTRICT 13.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY, I'M ACTUALLY INCREDIBLY STUNNED THAT THIS IS EVEN ON THE AGENDA.

WHEN YOU HEARD THOSE NUMBERS COME BACK, WHAT WAS THERE? TWO PEOPLE FOR IT AND 190 SOMETHING AGAINST IT.

AND WHAT I THOUGHT WAS FASCINATING IS THAT EVERY ONE OF YOUR ZONING COMMISSION APPOINTEES VOTED FOR THIS. YOU ALL OWN IT. AND WE. WHERE ARE WE WHEN THE PEOPLE SPEAK? HAVE YOU EVER HAD. WHAT DID HE SAY? 100%. RETURN ON IT.

HAVE YOU EVER HAD THAT IN YOUR. I DOUBT IT. I HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS FOR SO LONG.

I'VE HEARD THE NEIGHBORS HAD TO TAKE THEM TO COURT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T PROPERLY NOTIFIED.

YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE PUT OUT COMPROMISES THAT GO A FOR STORY THAT GO WITH SENIOR CENTER.

THEY DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS. BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE 12 STORIES.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE. IT'S JUST STUNNING. THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.

YOU ALL NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. I WONDER, SINCE IT'S 30 DAYS INTO THE ELECTION IF MAYBE THIS IS SORT OF A GINNED UP THING TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME VOTES. YOU'RE GOING TO COME ACROSS AS THE HERO.

I DON'T KNOW. I'M GOING TO BE REALLY FASCINATED TO SEE WHAT YOU DO.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. I WILL TELL YOU THAT.

MICE. FUTURE CITY COUNCILWOMAN DID JUST COME DOWN HERE AND SPEAK, AND DIANE BENJAMIN.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING HER BECAUSE I KNOW SHE WILL BE WITH THE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NATE HEMBY. NATE HEMBY IS NOT PRESENT. PHILIP KINGSTON. HELLO, FRIENDS.

PHILIP KINGSTON, 5901 PALO PINTO. I'M LITERALLY LATE FOR AN APPOINTMENT.

WHERE I WILL HAVE TO DRIVE BY PEPPER SQUARE, SO I'VE BEEN WATCHING IT FOR A LONG TIME.

ALSO, SOME PEOPLE SHOWED ME SOME SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE I'VE BEEN CATCHING STRAYS ON THIS THING, WHICH WAS VERY FASCINATING TO ME. I WANTED TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN ASKED TO DO FOR SALE PRODUCT OWNER OCCUPIED PRODUCT.

THE ONLY WAY THAT'S GOING TO BE POSSIBLE IS WITH THE HEIGHT REQUESTED, WHICH IS MIRRORED ACROSS THE STREET AT THE 12 STORY OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT, AS MY FRIEND ADAM LAMONT DID, THAT THE NORTH DALLAS NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE CALLED FOR EXACTLY THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, AND THE FACT THAT SO MANY OF THEM ARE HERE IN OPPOSITION LEADS ONE TO WONDER ABOUT THE GOOD FAITH THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING TO THIS PARTY.

NOW, I'VE DONE DOZENS AND DOZENS AND DOZENS OF THESE.

AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, CREATE COMPROMISES WHEN PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING IN GOOD FAITH.

NORMALLY IT'S THE DEVELOPER WHO BACKS AWAY, DECIDES NOT TO ENGAGE THE PUBLIC, AND HAS TO BUILD UNDER THE ZONING THEY HAVE.

THAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR IN DISTRICT 14. IN THIS CASE, IT WAS THE NEIGHBORS THAT THREW THE BABY FIT THAT THAT RESORTED TO LAWSUITS AFTER THEY HAD COMPROMISED MANY, MANY PARTS OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.

AND SO WHAT WE NOW KNOW IS THAT THEY WERE NOT OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH, AND THEREFORE THOSE CONCESSIONS SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN OFFERED.

AND SO I'M ENCOURAGING YOU TO PASS THE PROJECT AT ITS ORIGINAL DENSITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CORRECT FOR THE RECORD, IT'S HONORABLE PHILIP KINGSTON.

DEBORAH GREENING. OKAY. MISS GREENING, I'M HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE SEEING ME OR NOT.

RIGHT. WE CAN HEAR YOU. HOWEVER, WE CANNOT SEE YOU.

WILL YOU PLEASE TURN ON YOUR VIDEO? I TURN IT ON EARLIER AND IT WORKED.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN IT ON BECAUSE IT'S PUT ME IN A DIFFERENT PLACE. MORE.

I'M SO SORRY. I'M SORRY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO TO DO THAT.

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I COULD START VIDEO. MAYBE THEY'RE THERE. THAT'S ME.

OKAY, WE CAN SEE YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE. ALL RIGHT.

I'M DEB GREENING AND I LIVE AT SIX, SEVEN, SIX, FIVE TOWN BLUFF IN NORTH DALLAS.

IN DISTRICT 11, JUST ABOUT A MILE FROM NOT EVEN A MILE, I DON'T THINK, FROM PEPPER SQUARE.

WE RAISED OUR FAMILY HERE. WE'VE BEEN HERE IN THIS HOUSE SINCE 1979, AND WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND NOT THAT I'M OPPOSED TO CHANGE, BUT I'M VERY OPPOSED TO THIS CHANGE.

AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE REASONS.

SO I JUST DECIDED TO HIGHLIGHT ONE, WHICH I KNOW IS PROBABLY NOT BIG NEWS TO ANY OF YOU, BUT THE TRAFFIC IS MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

PRESTON AND BELTLINE RIGHT NOW ARE A MESS. IT CAN TAKE MULTIPLE TRAFFIC LIGHT CHANGES TO GET THROUGH, EVEN IF IT'S NOT PEAK PERIOD, AND WHEN IT'S PEAK PERIOD, IT WILL ALMOST ALWAYS TAKE MULTIPLE CHANGES TO GET THROUGH.

THEN THERE'S ALSO JUST DOWN THE ROAD A LIGHT AT ALEXIS AND PRESTON, WHICH IS ALEXIS, IS THE STREET JUST SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING SITE. AND IT'S ALREADY AGAIN, WHEN YOU OFTEN HAVE TO SIT THROUGH A CYCLE OR TWO OR SOMETIMES THREE OF THE LIGHTS.

AND IF YOU PUT IN HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS OR, AND CORRESPONDING VEHICLES, I JUST CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT A DISASTER THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE. SO I HOPE THAT THE DECISION WILL BE AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

AND AGAIN, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CRYSTAL ROBERTS. CRYSTAL ROBERTS IS NOT PRESENT.

ROY ATWOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M REVEREND ROY ATWOOD.

IF WE WANT TO MAKE HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE IN OUR CITY, WE HAVE TO BUILD MORE OF IT.

YET WE FACE A CRITICAL CHOICE. EITHER ALLOW DENSER HOUSING WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, OR SEE THE SLOW EROSION OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS PROPOSAL OFFERS A SMART PATH FORWARD BY ADDING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WITHIN AN EXISTING RETAIL CENTER.

WE'RE PUTTING NEW HOMES WHERE THEY BELONG NEAR TRANSIT SHOPS AND MAJOR ROADS.

THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT RELIEVES THE PRESSURE TO UPZONE OUR QUIET, ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS JUST TO MEET THE CITY'S HOUSING NEEDS.

IT'S A WIN WIN. WE REVITALIZE AGING COMMERCIAL SPACE AND HELP PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEARBY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

AND I'LL ADD THAT AS A RESIDENT OF UP TO UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD, I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO HAVE A LOW CRIME AND LOW TRAFFIC NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE I DO.

THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE WAY TO PROTECT OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE ADDRESSING THE HOUSING CRISIS, AND THAT'S BY ADDING DENSITY EVERYWHERE ELSE.

THIS ZONING CHANGE DOES EXACTLY THAT, AND I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LARA LAWSON IS NOT PRESENT.

BOB BURNS IS NOT PRESENT. LINDA WARD.

MISS WARD, CAN YOU HEAR ME? MISS WARD. LINDA WARD.

OKAY, I'LL COME BACK TO MISS WARD. HOLLY. FREE.

HOLLY, FREE IS NOT PRESENT BEFORE I GO BACK TO MISS WARD WHILE WE CHECK ON HER TECHNOLOGY.

I'M TOLD THAT DAMIEN LEVESQUE IS IN THE CHAMBER.

I CALLED HIM EARLIER. DAMIEN? YES. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ARE WE ON? OKAY.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR HEARING US ALL OUT TODAY.

AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE LUXURY OF KNOWING HOW YOUR CONSTITUENTS FEEL.

AND IN THOSE INSTANCES, YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN EDUCATED GUESS.

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR RESEARCH AND COME TO A DECISION ON YOUR OWN.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER TIMES WHEN THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE IS UNMISTAKABLY CLEAR.

AND IN THOSE MOMENTS, YOUR DUTY IS NOT TO YOUR WORLDVIEW, VIEW YOUR PREFERENCES D9 OR YOUR DONORS D1.

IT'S TO THE PEOPLE YOU WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT.

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TODAY IS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS. YOU HAVE THE RARE BENEFIT OF ABSOLUTE CLARITY.

91% OF THE SURROUNDING HOA'S ARE OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING REQUEST.

THERE IS NO GRAY AREA HERE, SO YOU'RE EITHER WITH THE PEOPLE OR YOU ARE WITH THE GREEDY DEVELOPERS.

AND I ASSURE YOU THAT APPROVAL OF THIS CASE WILL BE THE HALLMARK EVENT, THE DEFINING MOMENT, THE LODESTONE OF DALLAS POLITICS THAT ILLUSTRATES HOW OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES ARE IGNORING AND BETRAYING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE AFTER TODAY WILL BE COMPARED TO THIS.

AND YOUR POLITICAL CAREERS WILL BE DEFINED BY YOUR VOTE TODAY, AND YOUR POLITICAL FUTURES WILL DEPEND ON IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'LL COME BACK TO MISS WARD. I'M TOLD SHE'S STILL HAVING SOME ISSUES.

I'LL CALL THE FINAL GROUP WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME.

IF YOU'RE IN PERSON, WILL YOU COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST TWO ROWS IN THE CENTER SECTION? PRISCILLA SHACKLETT, SEAN. JENSEN, TRACEY. BELL, DOUGLAS.

SISLER, ANDREW RÜEGG. VICTORIA. MORRIS. MARK LUTCHMAN.

HONORABLE. LEE KLEINMAN, DAPHNE. DARKE, CHRIS HAW, MICHELLE WELLS, KATHY KAUFMAN, AND ALI RASKIN. PRISCILLA SHACKLETT.

IS VIRTUAL. MISS SHACKLETT, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU.

I AM LOOKING FOR. I CAN HEAR YOU AS WELL. HOWEVER, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING.

I PUSH THE BUTTON. HERE WE GO. HI. CAN YOU SEE ME? NO. NOT YET. YOU MAY WANT TO CONTINUE SPEAKING AND MAY NEED TO JUST CATCH UP.

OKAY. YEAH. WELL, THE CAMERA BUTTON A LITTLE.

MAYBE I MAY HAVE TECHNICAL ISSUES AS WELL. I AM HERE.

MISS. MISS JACQUELINE, I'M SORRY. YOU CANNOT SPEAK UNLESS YOUR VIDEO.

OH. CAN YOU SEE ME NOW? OKAY. NO, NO, WE CAN'T SEE YOU.

I'M SORRY. THIS IS MY PREVIEW. SO WE'LL WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, MISS JACQUELINE, WHILE YOU WORK ON YOUR VIDEO.

HI, SEAN. JENSEN. JENSEN.

YOU CAN HEAR ME? YES. GREAT. MR. MAYOR, ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE ALL HERE FOR THE SAME REASON.

WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE LOVE OUR CITY. WE JUST THINK WE CAN DO EVEN BETTER.

BUT WE HAVE DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.

THIS ROOM IS LIVING PROOF THAT WHEN WE REALLY WANT SOMETHING, WE WANT A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BACK BY OUR SIDES AND BY OUR BACKS.

OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, THEY NEED REGULAR CUSTOMERS, NOT JUST PASS THROUGH COMMUTERS.

THEY NEED OUR SUPPORT TO LAST FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.

BUT WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE. WE NEED ALLIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE NEED YOUNG FAMILIES JUST STARTING OUT. EMPTY NESTERS, DOWNSIZING.

WE NEED PROFESSIONALS, YOUNG AND OLD, WHO JUST WANT TO LOCK AND LEAVE AND NOT WORRY ABOUT LAWNS AND FENCES, CITY CODES OR HOAS. THIS PLAN BUILDS A BIGGER, INDEPENDENT VERSION OF HILLCREST VILLAGE, A LOCAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE TRULY LOVE.

OUR CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE BOND FUNDS TO BUY ANOTHER PARK LIKE THE ONE THAT MAKES THAT PLACE WORK.

BUT THIS PLAN FILLS A WHOLE LONG LIST OF LOCAL PRIORITIES.

WITHOUT THE PUBLIC FUNDING AND WITHOUT THE HIGHER TAXES OR THE HARD CUTS THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

PEPPER SQUARE HAS BEEN LIMPING ALONG FOR DECADES.

THIS IS THE MOMENT TO START FRESH. BUILD THE ECONOMY FOR TODAY.

THIS IS THE CHANCE TO THINK BIG, TO CATCH A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY TO SET UP OUR COMMUNITY TO CONTINUE TO THRIVE FOR DECADES TO COME.

HONESTLY, THIS IS A FASTBALL GOING RIGHT ACROSS THE PLATE.

WE JUST NEED TO SWING FOR THE FENCES, AND WE DON'T WANT TO LET THIS PITCH GO BY.

I URGE YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS. AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT.

ABOUT ONE THIRD OF MY HOA, OR RATHER MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WOULD DISAGREE WITH ME.

ABOUT A THIRD OF THEM DON'T WANT THIS. ABOUT A QUARTER OF THEM ARE OKAY WITH IT.

THEY'RE GOOD. AND THE OTHER THIRD ARE EXCITED BY THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE IT. SO WE URGE YOU TO VOTE YES.

THANK YOU. WE'LL GO BACK TO MISS SHACKLETT. PRISCILLA SHACKLETT.

HI THERE. THANK YOU FOR THE HEARING. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY THAT IS OPPOSED TO PEPPER SQUARE DEVELOPMENT.

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WE DON'T WANT TO ADD TO THE CONGESTION, THE TRAFFIC.

OUR TAXES ARE GROWING JUST TO THE POINT WHERE MANY PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN STILL AFFORD THE HOMES THAT THEY PURCHASED AND HAVE LIVED IN FOR 30, 40 YEARS. THE FACT THAT THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN ESTABLISHED THE THE SENSE OF NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE, THAT THEY JOINED TOGETHER TO OPPOSE.

PEPPER SQUARE SHOULD TELL YOU A LOT ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE THEIR COMMUNITY EARLIER ON IN YOUR DAY, I HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT THE UNDERSERVED PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PRESERVE THEIR COMMUNITY.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE, MAYBE NOT UNDERSERVED, BUT THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY AS WELL.

PLEASE LISTEN. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE THE ELITE, NOT PART OF US NOT LISTENING, NOT EXPERIENCING WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS AREA ARE EXPERIENCING.

WE DON'T WANT A 12 STORY BUNCH OF BUILDINGS WITH CONGESTION AND THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO FIX POTHOLES. SO PLEASE, WILL YOU LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE? VOTE AGAINST PEPPER TO PRESERVE THIS COMMUNITY, A UNIQUE COMMUNITY.

AND DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DON'T LIVE IN DALLAS. YOU ACT LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, AND YOU'RE JUST KIND OF PRESIDING OVER THEM. AND I JUST HAVE TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DART SYSTEM AS THOUGH YOU NEVER RIGHT.

I KNOW THAT YOU VOTED YOURSELVES $1,000. WHAT IS IT A MONTH FOR YOUR CAR ALLOWANCE? BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO RIDE ON THE DART. THIS IS A SITUATION YOU NEED.

WE DO NOT WANT 12 STORY DEVELOPMENT THERE. WE WANT TO PRESERVE THIS PART.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TRACY BELL.

HI. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. GREAT. OKAY. I AM TRACY BELL, AND I LIVE AT 14119 REGENCY PLACE.

I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT TO THE HUGHES LANE RESIDENT, WHO SAID THAT 100% OF RESIDENTS SURVEYED VOTED AGAINST REZONING IN HIS SURVEY, BUT HE IS INCORRECT. I VOTED IN THAT SURVEY, AS WELL AS MANY OF MY FRIENDS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE SUPPORT IT. I SUPPORT THE REZONING OF PEPPER SQUARE.

THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT IS EXTREMELY OUTDATED, WITH EMPTY RETAIL SPACES, UNUSED SURFACE PARKING.

A LACK OF OPEN SPACE AND LITTLE WALKABILITY. REDEVELOPMENT BRINGS BACK VIBRANCY TO PEPPER SQUARE AND TO NORTH DALLAS.

THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IS NEEDED TO BRING QUALITY RESTAURANTS AND RETAILERS.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TWO ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, THE WIDE SIDEWALKS AND THE TRAIL CONNECTION, WHICH WILL ENABLE LESS DEPENDENCY ON CARS AND REVITALIZE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

A VIBRANT PEPPER SQUARE IS MUCH PREFERRED TO THE UNSIGHTLY AND OUTDATED STATUS QUO.

THANK YOU FOR BEING PROGRESSIVE AND LOOKING TO BUILD A BRIGHT FUTURE FOR NORTH DALLAS.

PLEASE VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ZONING REQUEST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOUGLAS SISLER. PRETEND I PROMOTE I PROMOTE NO MOBILITY ISSUES. I WON'T COME DOWN. BUT I'M AGAINST THE ZONING AND EVERYBODY IS COVERED BY POINTS.

REZONING THE REZONING. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US.

THANK YOU. ANDREW RÜEGG.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ANDREW RÜEGG, 2201 MAIN STREET HERE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER.

I SENT OUT A A LONGER VERSION OF THIS HANDOUT.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE SHORT VERSION HERE TODAY.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO TALK THROUGH SOME A COUPLE ITEMS IN HERE, AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO REVISIT THEM IF NEEDED LATER ON IN THE MEETING.

FIRST THING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WAS ON PAGE FOUR OF THIS HANDOUT ARE COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS, WHICH STEMMED FROM OVER TEN NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS PLUS WORKING GROUP MEETINGS WITH THE THREE REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE THREE CLOSEST HOA HOA TO THE PROPERTY. AND ONE OTHER THING THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF.

I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN THE MAPS, READ THE CASE REPORT, HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF.

WHAT'S THE PROPOSAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE? WE'RE NOT ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PROPERTIES IN DALLAS WHERE A MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IS TRYING TO REZONE ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY. WE'RE SEPARATED BY BELTLINE ROAD. WE'RE SEPARATED BY A MULTIFAMILY TWO PROPERTY TO OUR SOUTH,

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AND THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ARE ABOUT 400FT AWAY.

IN FACT, THERE'S ONLY SEVEN SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES WITHIN THE 500 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT POINT IS CLEAR.

THE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS ON PAGE SIX OF YOUR HANDOUT, WE HAVE MULTIPLE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE REQUEST, LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS. BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS.

WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT. AND WE'VE DONE THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR PLANS.

THIS INCLUDED REDUCING THE OVERALL AREA OF REQUEST.

THIS INCLUDED SLASHING THE DENSITY, SLASHING THE HEIGHT MAKING PROVISIONS FOR OUR PD SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS NEIGHBOR.

NEIGHBOR CONCERNS AND WANTS SUCH AS OUTDOOR DINING AND KEEPING A, YOU KNOW, A HIGHLY WALKABLE COMMUNITY FOR THE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I'M HAPPY TO REVISIT ANY OF THESE ITEMS. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VICTORIA MORRIS.

VICTORIA MORRIS WITH JACKSON WALKER, 2323 ROSS AVENUE, SUITE 600, IN DALLAS.

MR. MAYOR, HONORABLE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE, BUT WANT TO MAKE THESE IMAGES PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.

THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN RECEIVED HOPEFULLY IN YOUR EMAIL INBOXES.

BUT ON YOUR SCREEN YOU WILL SEE A DAILY ACCOUNT OF THE FIVE ZONING SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED TO THE PROPERTY SINCE FEBRUARY 7TH, 2025, THE DAY AFTER OUR CITY PLAN COMMISSION HEARING.

DURING THE CPC HEARING, THE COMMISSION RECEIVED SIMILAR DAILY DOCUMENTATION AND THE COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY, UNANIMOUSLY TO DETERMINE THAT THE APPLICANT MET ITS OBLIGATIONS UNDER SECTION 50 1-1.106 OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE HOPE THAT YOU TWO FIND OUR COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.

HERE IS MARCH. AND TODAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. MARK. LUQMAN. MARK LUQMAN IS NOT PRESENT.

HONORABLE LEE KLEINMAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR AND HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. I'M LEE KLEINMAN WITH MASTER PLAN AT 2201 MAIN STREET DALLAS, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED TODAY AN EDITORIAL IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS REGARDING PEPPER SQUARE, AND IT DIDN'T REALLY OPINE ON THE ON THE QUESTIONS OF WHETHER THIS IS A GOOD DEVELOPMENT OR NOT.

IT REALLY OPINED ON THE PROCESS. AND IF I MAY JUST TAKE A MINUTE AND READ A FEW ITEMS OUT OF IT.

THIS YEAR LONG DISPUTE HIGHLIGHTS HOW HARD IT CAN BE TO HAVE SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT LAND USE AND HOUSING IN DALLAS.

PEOPLE CAN REASONABLY DISAGREE ABOUT HOW TO REDEVELOP A PIECE OF LAND, BUT WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE BEST USE OF THE SITE DEVOLVED INTO PUBLIC SMEARING AND SOCIAL MEDIA RAGE BAIT CAMPAIGNS AGAINST ANYONE WHO MIGHT THINK BUILDING MULTI WHO MIGHT NOT THINK BUILDING MULTIFAMILY IS A GOOD IDEA.

THIS DEVELOPER HAS SLOGGED THROUGH YEARS OF BUREAUCRATIC HURDLES, AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, ACTED IN GOOD FAITH TO MEET RESIDENTS CONCERNS.

AND BESIDES, THREE YEARS IS AN OBSCENE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR REZONING CASE TO TAKE.

AND I'D ALSO JUST LIKE TO DEBUNK A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT WERE SPOKEN ABOUT TODAY.

AND I JUST ASK YOU TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS OF YOURSELF.

HAVE YOU SEEN ANY BOARD RESOLUTIONS FROM ANY HOA IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AGAINST THIS ITEM? DID YOU DID YOU HEAR SOME OF THE SPEAKERS ACTUALLY THREATEN YOU? THAT'S DEFINITELY OF CONCERN WITH REGARDS TO THE SURVEY.

91% OF THE RESPONDENTS MAY HAVE SAID THEY'RE AGAINST, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE AREA THAT WAS THAT WAS COVERED IN THE SURVEY COULD HAVE BEEN AS MANY AS 43,000 PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T RESPOND.

I WOULD ARGUE IT'S EITHER A NEUTRAL OR IN FAVOR.

SO KIND OF ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION. AND THEN ALSO A GENERAL QUESTION JUST KIND OF ON POLICY, IS THERE ANY REASON RENTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME AMENITIES IN NORTH DALLAS, THAT SINGLE FAMILY THAT YOUR HOMEOWNERS HAVE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. DAPHNE. DARK.

I SAY IT IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU, CHRIS HAU.

CHRIS HAU IS NOT PRESENT. MICHELLE WELLS.

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HI. MY NAME IS MICHELLE WELLS, AND I LIVE AT 990 SINGLETON BOULEVARD.

I DO LIVE IN DISTRICT SIX. BUT I'M HERE TODAY TO STAND ALONGSIDE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF 91% OF MY FRIENDS HERE, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS WHO OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS. STRONG, STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE THE FUNCTION OF THIS CITY.

AND AS ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE.

YOU GET ELECTED, AND YOU LISTEN TO THE CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA WHERE YOU'RE AT.

AND YOU YOU DO WHAT THEY'VE ASKED YOU TO DO. IN THIS CASE, THE MESSAGE FROM THE COMMUNITY IS VERY LOUD, AND IT'S VERY CLEAR THEY DO NOT WANT A 12 STORY HIGH RISE IN THE MIDDLE OF A SUBURBAN, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT JUST BECAUSE A REZONING APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT MUST BE APPROVED.

THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE LISTENING TO YOUR PEOPLE.

THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEXT TO PEPPER SQUARE ARE SAYING NO.

THEY'RE SAYING NO. I URGE YOU TO STAND WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND VOTE ACCORDINGLY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. KATHY KAUFMAN.

WELL, I WAS PLANNING TO SAY A CERTAIN SPEECH WHEN I CAME DOWN HERE TODAY.

BUT AFTER ALL THE THINGS I'VE HEARD, I GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

MY NAME IS KATHY KAUFMAN. I LIVE AT 100 AND 805 LARK GLEN CIRCLE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

I'VE SPENT 45 YEARS OF MY LIFE WORKING ON NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES AND WORKING ON ZONING ISSUES, AND TRYING TO BE AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT TO IMPROVE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND I RAISE MY KIDS TO DO THE SAME. IT SHOULD NOT BE THIS HARD FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD TO HEAR.

NO. AND THAT'S ALL WE'VE HEARD SINCE THIS ZONING CASE STARTED.

OUR D11 REPRESENTATIVE SAYS NO WAY, MY WAY. AND THAT'S IT.

CITY STAFF WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT REGULATIONS PROCESSES AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT.

THESE PEOPLE CAME INTO THIS KNOWING THAT THEY COULD THEY SHOULD HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

NEIGHBORHOODS KNOW THEIR COMMUNITY. THEY KNOW WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE.

THEY KNOW WHAT WORKS BETTER. THEY KNOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE MADE A LIFELONG INVESTMENT IN THIS PROPERTY AND IN THIS CITY.

BUT WHEN WE'RE NOT GIVEN A SEAT AT THE TABLE, WE DON'T GET INPUT.

AND WE WERE NOT GIVEN A SEAT AT THE TABLE. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU HEARD ABOUT HOW MANY MEETINGS AND HOW MANY TIMES THEY NEGOTIATED.

IT DID NOT HAPPEN. SO YOU HAVE THEIR SIDE AND MY SIDE AND THE REST OF THESE PEOPLE'S SIDE.

YOUR SIDE IS TO DECIDE IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE YOUR PROCESS TO DEFER THIS AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY WITH A NEW COUNCIL PERSON COMING IN TO. AND EXPLAIN TO THE DEVELOPER THAT IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SIT DOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REALLY LISTEN AND GIVE US SOME KIND OF WAY TO COMPROMISE.

WE COMPROMISE ALL OVER NORTH DALLAS. Y'ALL THINK WE DON'T? WE DID THE MOVIE THEATER COMPROMISE. WE ACTUALLY GOT THE DANIELS FAMILY MORE MONEY FOR THEIR PROPERTY BY MAKING THE MOVIE THEATER GO AWAY.

INWOOD AND FOREST. WE GOT CONDOS ALL TURNED DOWN, TORN DOWN, AND BRAND NEW FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOMES, YOU KNOW, BUILT THERE. THAT'S YOUR TIME. WE'RE GOING TO.

WE'LL BE THERE TO NEGOTIATE IF YOU GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALI. ALI OR ALI RASKIN? IT'S NOT ONLINE. AND I'M ALSO LINDA WARD EARLIER.

IT'S STILL NOT ONLINE. SO THIS CONCLUDES YOUR REGISTER.

SPEAKERS OR BY SHOW OF HANDS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND AND HAVE A SEAT IN THIS CENTER SECTION.

FIRST FEW ROWS. ANYONE CAN COME FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOHN JOYCE. I LIVE AT 6715 DARTBROOK DRIVE IN DISTRICT 11.

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I URGE YOU ONCE AGAIN NOT TO VOTE FOR REZONING PEPPER SQUARE IN ITS CURRENT PLAN.

THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY IN DISTRICT 11 DOES NOT WANT THE CURRENT PLAN.

SURVEY. SURVEY DATA CONFIRMS THIS, AS WELL AS MULTIPLE TOWN HALL REACTIONS.

AS THE MAYOR RECENTLY ALLUDED TO IN A DALLAS MORNING NEWS ARTICLE.

THE RECENTLY PASSED HERO PROPOSALS SHOULD HAVE SERVED AS A WAKE UP CALL TO TRULY LISTEN AND WORK WITH THE CITIZENS GOING FORWARD.

TODAY I SAT HERE AND HEARD GREAT EXAMPLES IN DISTRICT FOUR, 12 AND 13 WHERE THE THE COUNCIL PERSON WORKED WITH THE CITIZENS AND THE DEVELOPER TO GET A GREAT ANSWER, AND NO ONE CAME TO OPPOSE ANY OF THOSE REZONINGS.

JUST HAVING A MEETING DOESN'T MEAN YOU WORK WITH THEM.

TODAY'S DALLAS MORNING NEWS EDITORIAL THAT MR. KLEINMAN TALKED ABOUT ON THIS TOPIC WAS ONE SIDED AND INCORRECT.

CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE PLAN THAT BENEFIT THE DEVELOPER AND CALLED AND ARE CALLED CONCESSIONS.

BUT THE CHANGES WERE NOT ONES THAT WERE ASKED FOR.

WE WANT THE DEVELOPER TO PROFIT AND WE WANT THE PROPERTY REDEVELOPED, BUT NOT WITH SKYSCRAPERS.

MORE APARTMENTS THAN THE AREA NEEDS WORSE WORST TRAFFIC AND WORST RESPONSE TIME FOR 911.

HSM REPRESENTATIVE TALKED ABOUT THE 12 STORY TOWER BEING A HUGE CONCESSION FROM WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO START.

HOW HIGH WAS THE SKYSCRAPER GOING TO BE IN THE FIRST PLACE? I URGE YOU TO EITHER DENY THE REZONING OR DELAY THIS VOTE UNTIL AFTER THE MAY 3RD ELECTION, WHEN WE CAN HAVE A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WILL SIT DOWN AND ACTUALLY MEDIATE.

A WIN WIN NEGOTIATION BETWEEN US AND THE DEVELOPER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MARY CHRISTIAN BAUER. I RESIDE AT 6516 DARTBROOK DRIVE.

I RECENTLY BECAME A RESIDENT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MY HUSBAND AND OUR TWO YOUNG CHILDREN THAT ARE AGED FIVE AND TWO.

ORIGINALLY I LOOKED AROUND AND IA2 MILE RADIUS OF PEPPER SQUARE AND THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 16 APARTMENTS WITH 5786 UNITS, SOME OF WHICH ARE AVAILABLE. ALREADY THERE IS A TON OF CONGESTION ON PRESTON ROAD AS WELL AS BELTLINE.

I DO NOT THINK WE NEED 984 MORE UNITS. I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT.

I'VE SAT HERE ALL DAY AND I'VE SEEN COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD ZEALOUSLY ADVOCATE FOR HER CONSTITUENTS, AND I ONLY WISH THAT WE HAD THE SAME IN DISTRICT 11.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME.

WE NEED A WHOLE APPLAUSE DOWN. OKAY, I'LL LET YOU WIN 4 OR 5 TIMES.

NO MORE PLEASE. HELLO, MY NAME IS HOWARD FREID.

I LIVE AT 14932 WYNNEWOOD ROAD IN ADDISON, TEXAS, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM PEPPER SQUARE.

WHEN THE TRAFFIC BACKS UP, I CAN'T EVEN GET OUT OF MY STREET NOW.

IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THERE WAS A ZONING ISSUE AND I CIRCULATED A PETITION, GOT 286 SIGNATURES. EVERYBODY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED, WROTE MESSAGES, TEXTED, EMAILED, CAME UP, SPOKE OUT, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING. AND AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THE COUNCIL VOTED 7 TO 0 AGAINST MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I RAN FOR OFFICE AND I AM NOW ON THE ADDISON CITY COUNCIL.

I DO NOT REPRESENT THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT I HAVE BEEN AND AM CURRENTLY IN YOUR SHOES AND I SERVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT. AND ADDISON DOES NOT HAVE DISTRICTS.

WE ARE ALL AT LARGE. SO I'M THE PEOPLE'S CANDIDATE.

I, I FIGHT EVERY FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFECTED BY AN ISSUE.

THAT'S WHAT GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. WE WEREN'T ELECTED TO RULE.

WE WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THESE PEOPLE AND ME, BECAUSE I ALSO OWN A HOUSE IN DALLAS THAT I COULD WALK TO PEPPER SQUARE FROM AS WELL.

WE'RE JUST TELLING YOU HOW WE FEEL. WE ELECTED YOU TO REPRESENT US.

YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO US LIKE THAT GENTLEMAN SAID BEFORE.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW WE FEEL, YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT'S IN YOUR HEART.

BUT WHEN YOU KNOW THE CHOICE IS CLEAR, THIS IS OUR DUTY.

WE HAVE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE. THIS ISN'T A CHOICE WE GET TO MAKE.

THIS WOMAN OVER HERE WHO REPRESENTS HER CONSTITUENTS.

THANK YOU. I KNOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO CLAP, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

PLEASE LISTEN TO US. WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU'RE ADDING 2500 UNITS NOW. AND ANOTHER THOUSAND.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I RESPECT WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. HI. THANK YOU.

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JANET MARKHAM, 7714 MAPLECREST DRIVE, DALLAS.

I JUST HANDED OUT SOME HANDOUTS TO YOU GUYS. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PASSING THEM AROUND.

TRY TO MAKE ENOUGH COPIES FOR EVERYBODY. SO I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NORTHWOOD HILLS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS CATTY CORNER TO THIS SITE AND HAS 1150 HOMES, WHICH MEANS I REPRESENT A COUPLE THOUSAND RESIDENTS THAT HAVE A STAKE IN THIS DECISION. I OPPOSE THIS REZONING APPLICATION BECAUSE IT STILL NEEDS WORK BEFORE IT'S RIGHT FOR OUR AREA.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SAYS IT COMPLIES WITH LAND USE GOALS AND POLICIES AFFORD DALLAS.

AND THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE IN MANY REGARDS. A GOAL THAT SUPPOSEDLY COMPLIES WITH IS TO ENCOURAGE CREATION OF DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES AND FIND WAYS TO FOSTER HOME OWNERSHIP. MASTER PLAN TOLD US THE AVERAGE EFFECTIVE RENT WILL BE NORTH OF 2000 A MONTH, AND THEIR TARGET RENTER EARNS AN AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME OF 118,000.

WE ASK, HOW DO MARKET RATE APARTMENTS CREATE DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES OR FOSTER HOME OWNERSHIP? THE ANSWER IS THEY DON'T. A GOAL THAT SUPPOSEDLY COMPLIES WITH IS TO ENCOURAGE COMPLEMENTARY BUILDING, HEIGHT, SCALE, DESIGN, AND CHARACTER. WE ASK, HOW DOES A 12 STOREY TOWER COMPLEMENT EXISTING PREVAILING RESIDENTIAL BUILDING HEIGHTS OF 1 TO 2 STOREYS? HOW DOES A SKYSCRAPER MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF EXISTING NEARBY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND GARDEN STYLE MULTIFAMILY HOMES? ANSWER IT DOESN'T. PLEASE READ THE FORWARD DALLAS GOALS AND POLICIES FOR A COMMUNITY MIXED USE SITE IN A SUBURBAN AREA, AND YOU'LL COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT THIS PLAN DOESN'T COMPLY.

I DO JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY ACTUALLY LISTEN TO US IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.

BUT WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU GUYS DO LISTEN TO US TODAY, AND WE COULD HAVE RESOLVED THIS A LOT SOONER THAN THREE YEARS, BUT WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THE OTHER SIDE WAS ACTING IN GOOD, GOOD FAITH.

AND THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THEIR SITE WAS OF THEIR OWN DOING, NOT OF OUR DOING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. ALL RIGHT.

HELLO, FOLKS. HELLO. GLEN NEWMAN, SEVEN SIX, TWO FOUR CLIFF BROOK DRIVE.

I SUPPORT THE REZONING OF PEPPER SQUARE. I HAVE LIVED IN DISTRICT 11 FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

I HAVE WORKED ALSO AS A PART OF THE NORTHWOOD HILLS BOARD.

I SERVED IN THE CAPACITY OF CRIME AND SECURITY.

I HAVE WATCHED WHAT PEPPER SQUARE HAS BECOME.

20 YEARS AGO, PEPPER SQUARE WAS THRIVING AFTER COVID, AMAZON AND OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES HAS TAKEN ITS TOLL. IT'S TIME THAT WE. REVITALIZE THE AREA, PUT SOME HOUSING FOR NON RESIDENTIAL MEANING NON SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BUT HIGH RISE HOMES AND I THINK THAT IT WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY BEST.

I THINK WALKING SPACE WOULD BE VERY GOOD IN THAT AREA.

AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT IS NEEDED TO BRING QUALITY RESIDENTS AND RETAIL.

BUT I HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY TODAY THAT LOOK AT ALL THE YELLOW IN THE AUDIENCE.

WELL, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY IS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.

WE KNOW THAT THROUGH HISTORY. AND I ASK THAT YOU ALL DO THE RIGHT THING AND LOOK TO THE FUTURE, NOT TO THE PAST. WE NEED TO PASS PEPPER SQUARE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER. THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON. YOUR MICROPHONE. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF THAT.

YEAH. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS SHELLEY BARNETT.

I LIVE AT ONE 403 HUGHES LANE IN DALLAS, WITHIN A MILE OF PEPPER SQUARE.

WHAT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY IS WE ARE IN FAVOR OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

HOUSING? WE ARE SURROUNDED BY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.

AND THERE ARE TWO HUGE DEVELOPMENTS GOING IN WITHIN A MILE OF THIS SAME AREA.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE 5 OR 6000 PEOPLE SLATED TO BE HOUSING BUILT IN THIS AREA.

HOWEVER, THERE IS NO INCREASE IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

BELTLINE AND PRESTON IS KNOWN AS ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS INTERSECTIONS IN THE COUNTRY.

BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC SITUATION IS SO BAD, THERE IS BEING NOTHING DONE TO PROTECT TO CORRECT THIS PROBLEM.

AND YET THEY WANT TO ADD ANOTHER 5000 RESIDENTS TO THIS AREA.

OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT CANNOT HANDLE IT. THE ANNE FRANK SCHOOL DISTRICT IS ALREADY IN PORTABLE BUILDINGS,

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BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SPACES FOR CHILDREN TO GO TO SCHOOL IN OUR DISTRICT.

THEREFORE, WE DO NOT HAVE THE SCHOOL INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE ALSO, AS WAS SAID AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS BY THE POLICE COMMISSIONER, POLICE, ONE OF THE POLICEMEN THAT SPOKE AT OUR MEETINGS.

THEY DO NOT HAVE THE STAFF TO HANDLE ANOTHER 10,000 PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOR DOES THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY DID THEIR TRAFFIC ZONING.

THEY MUST HAVE DONE IT DURING LOCKDOWN WHEN THEY DID THEIR STUDIES, BECAUSE PRESTON AND BELTLINE, FOR ANYBODY THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION, KNOWS THAT IT CANNOT SUPPORT ANOTHER 10,000 PEOPLE.

WE CANNOT STOP THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING ON BECAUSE THOSE ARE ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ZONED OWN COMMERCIAL. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE AGAINST.

IN ADDITION, THE DECLINE OF PEPPER SQUARE IS DUE TO THE DEVELOPER.

HE WANTS TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL, SO HE HAS NOT RELEASED THOSE SPACES.

AND THOSE SPACES ARE SITTING EMPTY BECAUSE OF MILLER.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. YEAH. MY NAME IS ALAN GORTON, AND I WANT TO GIVE A PRACTICAL EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED AT THAT INTERSECTION IN BELTLINE. I WAS DRIVING A WEEK AGO WEDNESDAY AT 3 P.M.

IN THE AFTERNOON. I WAS DRIVING FROM SPRING VALLEY TO BELTLINE.

IT TOOK 12 MINUTES TO GO THE ONE MILE. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE PEOPLE THERE TO MAKE THE TRAFFIC WORSE THAN IT IS NOW.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HI. MARK LOMBARDI 6728 BRIER COVE.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I UNDERSTAND ELECTRONICS ARE UBIQUITOUS AND WE ALL ARE VERY BUSY.

BUT I WOULD ASK AND RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR UNDIVIDED ATTENTION FOR TWO MINUTES AND FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THESE PEOPLE AS WELL.

TODAY YOU'VE HEARD FROM MANY WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PLAN.

I EMPHASIZE THIS PLAN. TO BE CLEAR. THE VAST MAJORITY OF US ARE IN FAVOR OF MEANINGFUL REDEVELOPMENT AND A REVITALIZED PEPPER SQUARE, A DEVELOPMENT THAT SERVES LOCAL RESIDENTS, EXISTING RENTERS ALONG PRESTON ROAD, HOMEOWNERS, NEWCOMERS, BUSINESSES, THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT ALIKE.

HOWEVER, THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET THAT STANDARD.

SO WHAT ARE WE ASKING FOR? A RESET? A RESET, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD? ALLOW US TO WORK TOWARDS A SOLUTION THAT EVERYONE CAN GET BEHIND, INCLUDING THROUGH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE VYING TO BE OUR NEWLY ELECTED D11 REPRESENTATIVES. I THINK WE DESERVE THAT. COMMUNITY LEADERS ARE HAPPY TO WALK YOU THROUGH, IN PAINSTAKING DETAIL THE MANY FRUSTRATIONS WE'VE EXPERIENCED THROUGH THIS FAILED PROCESS.

APPROVAL OF THIS PROPOSAL TODAY WOULD ENDORSE THAT PROCESS AND SET AN UNFORTUNATE PRECEDENT FOR ALL DISTRICTS IN ALL OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

PLEASE HEAR US. THIS IS A GENERATIONAL OPPORTUNITY IN THE COMMUNITY HAS MADE ITS VOICE HEARD.

WE ARE WILLING TO BE PATIENT AND SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU BE PATIENT WITH US.

I ASK YOU TO I ASK YOU TO REJECT THIS REZONING PROPOSAL TODAY.

WE'RE HAPPY TO DISCUSS ANYTHING FURTHER. I JUST WANT TO NOTE WITH THIS LAST 30S I DIDN'T BEFORE PEPPER SWORE I WASN'T INVOLVED IN CITY POLITICS AT ALL.

I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT IT. I DIDN'T KNOW WHO ANY OF YOU WERE.

I KNOW WHO ALL OF YOU ARE. NOW. WHENEVER I TALK TO MY FRIENDS AND ALL YOUR DISTRICTS, I TALK TO THEM ABOUT THIS, THIS REZONING PROPOSAL AND HOW IT'S JADED MY VIEW OF CITY POLITICS.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT I WANT TO BELIEVE IN CITY POLITICS, AND I THINK WE CAN GET TO A GOOD SPACE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT THERE. AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL. WE DON'T WANT YOU TO KILL IT. WE JUST NEED A PAUSE. WE NEED TO RESET, AND WE NEED TO TALK TO THE DEVELOPER ON AN EVEN PLAYING FIELD. THANK YOU. WE NEED YOUR HELP. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO. MY NAME IS MIKE QUINT. I LIVE AT 6015 HIGH COURT PLACE. I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF REGENCY PLACE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

THE UNITED STATES IS A REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC WHEREBY THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE TO REPRESENT THE INTERESTS OF THOSE WHO ELECT THEM.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT, THE NEIGHBORS, THE OVERWHELMING OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT FROM THE NEIGHBORS IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT. MANY DISTRICT 11 CONSTITUENTS HAVE BEEN CONFUSED AS TO WHY OUR REPRESENTATIVE HAS BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE OF PROJECT.

ITS CONSTITUENCY IS NOT. WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT PEPPER SQUARE NEEDS TO BE REIMAGINED.

SUCH A PROJECT CAN INCORPORATE A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, JUST NOT AT THE DENSITIES THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN AN UPTOWN OR A DEEP ELLUM DEVELOPMENT. THE DISTRICT 11 CANDIDATES, ONE OF WHOM WILL BE YOUR COLLEAGUE AFTER THIS SPRING'S ELECTION.

OPPOSE THIS PROJECT. PLEASE DO NOT VOTE TODAY FOR THIS PROJECT.

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FOR COLLEGIAL SOLIDARITY. IF THIS WERE THE RIGHT VISION FOR PEPPER SQUARE, WE WOULD ALL BE HERE IN SUPPORT OF IT, LIKE SOME OF THE CASES WE HEARD EARLIER TODAY.

BUT IT IS NOT. WE CAN DO BETTER. PEPPER SQUARE CAN BE ONE OF THE FINEST NEIGHBORHOOD FOCUSED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS IN NORTH DALLAS. BUT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLAN. ALSO, AS THERE WAS A WOMAN THAT SPOKE EARLIER, TRACY BELL, WHO LIVES IN MY COMMUNITY AND SAID THAT OUR HER COMMUNITY WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

I'M THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT. I CAN SAY THAT 85% OF THE RESPONDENTS WERE AGAINST THIS PROJECT, AND WE HAD IT OVER 75% TIME. AND ALSO SHE WAS.

I'D LIKE TO WISH HER HAD REPORTED HER RELATIONSHIP TO TRACY SCHULZ, TO JAYNIE SCHULZ.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. SHE SHOULD HAVE REPORTED THAT. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

I'M EDWARD STONE, 6718 ROLLING VISTA IN DALLAS.

I'M UNIQUE. I'M A 50 YEAR RESIDENT OF A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM PEPPER SQUARE.

WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE IN 1975 THAT WAS KNOWN AS MCCUTCHEON FARM AND HELIPORT.

WE'VE WATCHED THE GROWTH IN THE DEVELOPMENT. WE'VE WATCHED THE DECLINE.

A FEW POINTS TO MAKE OR TO REITERATE, THE COUNTRY HAS THRIVED ON THE CONCEPT OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.

CITIZENS ELECT INDIVIDUALS TO BEST REPRESENT THEIR VALUES AND THEIR DESIRES, EVEN AFTER MULTIPLE MEETINGS AND CONCESSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER. WE STILL HAVE OVER 90% OPPOSITION TO THIS PLAN.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO A POINT OF ANYTHING CLOSE TO A CONSENSUS.

THERE'S ALSO PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED TWO DIFFERENT MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS ON THAT CORNER.

ONE ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER WHERE THE PRESTON DEL NORTE APARTMENTS ARE.

THAT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR LIKE 2000 UNITS TO THE SOUTH OF PEPPER SQUARE.

TONTI HAS BEEN GRANTED THE RIGHTS AND ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING ABOUT 400 RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

WHEN YOU ADD ANOTHER THOUSAND ON TOP, YOU GET TO CLOSE TO 3500 UNITS ON THAT CORNER.

THE DENSITY WILL BE SOMETHING LIKE TEN TIMES THE DENSITY AND THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

THE PROPOSED PLAN WILL ALSO CREATE AN INSULAR COMMUNITY WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT, SELF-CONTAINED ON ITS OWN ENVIRONMENT, AND WILL BE A DETRIMENT TO THE EXISTING CHARACTER AND COMMUNITY EXISTING CURRENTLY.

BE THOUGHTFUL. REGARD YOUR YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. MATT. MATT BACH 15746 COVID CIRCLE. DALLAS, TEXAS. I'M HERE AS WELL TO ASK YOU TO DEFER A VOTE ON PEPPER SQUARE.

GIVE US A CHANCE TO MEET AGAIN WITH THE DEVELOPER, IDEALLY AFTER THE ELECTIONS WHEN THERE'S A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER THERE AND WORK OUT A COMPROMISE. THAT'S A WIN WIN FOR BOTH OF US. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PEPPER SQUARE RENOVATED, AND WE'RE NOT AT ALL AGAINST HAVING HOUSING THERE, ALTHOUGH WE PROBABLY WANT ON THE ORDER OF ABOUT HALF OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, AND CERTAINLY NOT 12 STORY BUILDINGS. IT'S A IT'S ABOUT DENSITY THAT WE'RE OBJECTING.

IT'S NOT ABOUT MOVING FORWARD OR EVEN PROVIDING HOUSING.

ZONING REQUESTS LIKE PEPPER SQUARE SHOULD ONLY BE GRANTED WHEN THE PROPOSED LAND USE FITS THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND FULFILLS A GENUINE COMMUNITY NEED AND HAS BROAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT.

THE CURRENT PROPOSAL FOR PEPPER SQUARE MEETS NONE OF THOSE CRITERIA.

YOU KNOW, NOT SURPRISINGLY, THERE IS WIDESPREAD OPPOSITION.

AS YOU'VE HEARD MANY TIMES, 20 HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS THAT MAKE UP THE PEPPER SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION WAS SURVEYED, AND 92% OF THE 1100 RESPONDENTS. OKAY, THAT'S STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

I WAS TRYING TO DOWNPLAY, BUT THAT YOU GET 1100 RESPONDENTS, AND THAT MAKES A CLEAR DIRECTION OF HOW THE COMMUNITY FEELS THEY WERE AGAINST THE PLAN. ON A BROADER LEVEL, THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT PEPPER SQUARE.

THE BREAKDOWN IN REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT RAISES FUNDAMENTAL CONCERNS ABOUT HOW DALLAS FUNCTIONS, HOW IT MAKES DECISIONS, HOW IT RESPONDS OR FRANKLY DOESN'T RESPOND TO ITS CITIZENS.

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IN SOME WAYS, THIS MIRRORS WHAT WENT ON IN THE HAMPTON ROAD PROJECT, WHERE THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF OPPOSITION BECAUSE THERE WAS POOR OUTREACH, INADEQUATE COMMUNITY INPUT, AND RESIDENTS FELT SHUT OUT OF THE DECISIONS.

BUT IN THAT CASE, YOUR BODY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

IS THAT GOOD? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF US TODAY.

AND TO MYSELF. MY NAME IS KIM PAGE. I LIVE AT 6740 HILLWOOD LANE IN DALLAS IN DISTRICT 11.

I AM OPPOSED TO THE REZONING PROPOSAL, BUT AS SO MANY HAVE SAID, CERTAINLY TO NOT A NEWER PROPOSAL THAN THE ONE HENRY S MILLER HAS PUT FORTH FOR PEPPER SQUARE. THAT INCLUDES THIS LARGE 984 TOWERING APARTMENT BUILDING.

AND WE'LL CREATE MUCH MORE TRAFFIC AND WORSENING CONGESTION AT THE PRESTON AND BELTLINE INTERSECTION.

I HAVE LIVED AT OUR RESIDENCE SINCE 1969. I MOVED IN THERE AS A CHILD.

I BOUGHT A HOUSE WITH MY HUSBAND AND HAVE BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.

I LOVE WE LOVE OUR COMMUNITY. I'VE TAUGHT IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS A TEACHER.

WE LOVE PEPPER SQUARE AND WANT TO SEE IT REVITALIZED.

WE SHOP FREQUENTLY THERE AT THE STORES AND TRADER JOE'S AND PET SUPPLY PLUS AND BUT THIS PROPOSAL.

EXCUSE ME, IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE NEEDS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DENY THIS REZONING REQUEST AND INSIST THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO CREATE A MORE BALANCED SOLUTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO. MY NAME IS DONNA COLLINS AND I LIVE AT 14316 HUGHES LANE. I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WHEN YOU VOTE, YOU DO NOT CHOOSE BETWEEN NASTY, RICH HOMEOWNERS AND APARTMENT DWELLERS.

MOST OF US STARTED OUR LIFE IN APARTMENTS AND WE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET TO BUY NICE HOUSES.

WE BOUGHT MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT OUR HOUSE. KNOWING VERY WELL THAT WE WERE SURROUNDED BY APARTMENTS AND WE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THAT. WHAT WE WANT TO DEFEND HERE IS OUR PRIVACY.

WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS A SERENE, SMALL PLACE.

MY HOUSE IS THE SMALLEST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY EVEN.

WHY SHOULD A TALL BUILDING ENCROACH ON OUR BACKYARDS? YOU WANT TO REVITALIZE PEPPER SQUARE? YOU DON'T WANT TO VANDALIZE IT.

YOU DON'T WANT TO CHOOSE BETWEEN OUR NICE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ENRICH GREEDY DEVELOPERS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

HELLO. MATTHEW. HEAVNER. I'M AT 1352 FITTS PLACE.

THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS I SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT.

HEARING A LOT OF TALK ABOUT REPRESENTATION. AND I THINK THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON THE PRINCIPLE OF TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

EVERYONE THAT LIVES IN DALLAS IS A TAXPAYER. PEPPER SQUARE IS A TAXPAYER.

PEPPER SQUARE DOESN'T PAY MUCH TAX RIGHT NOW, AND IT COULD PAY A LOT MORE TAX IF IT WAS REDEVELOPED.

SO AS A TAXPAYER OF DALLAS, I'D LIKE TO SEE PEPPER SQUARE REDEVELOPED BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO BROADEN OUR TAX BASE.

AND I THINK IT WOULD OVERALL REDUCE THE TAXES IN THE CITY BY INCREASING TAXES ON THAT LAND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

GOOD AFTERNOON. TOM DUPREE, 5132 BELLERIVE DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

THERE HAVE BEEN MANY SPEAKERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE TODAY.

WE'VE HAD FORMER POLITICIANS, ATTORNEYS AND DEVELOPERS THAT HAVE SUPPORTED THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'VE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE AFFECTED BY THIS THAT HAVE SPOKEN OTHERWISE.

MY TOPIC. IS MORE ON A PERSONAL LEVEL. THIS PAST SATURDAY AT 9 A.M..

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GOD, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. I HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY AND HAD TO GET OUR DOG TO THE URGENT CARE FACILITY AT PRESTON AND LBJ.

I CHOSE USING PRESTON ROAD OVER THE TOLLWAY SINCE IT WAS STILL EARLY ON A SATURDAY AND TRAFFIC WOULD BE LIGHT, WHICH IT WASN'T UNTIL I GOT TO BELTLINE AND PRESTON, WHERE IT TOOK NEARLY TEN EXCRUCIATING MINUTES TO GET THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.

ALL I COULD THINK OF BESIDES DOHERTY'S WELFARE WAS, WHAT WILL THIS BE LIKE WITH THE HIGH RISE APARTMENT BUILDING ADDING A COUPLE THOUSAND MORE CARS TO THIS ALREADY BUSY INTERSECTION. DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS ARE TYPICALLY SEEN ALONG MAJOR FREEWAYS SUCH AS LBJ, AND I CANNOT IMAGINE ANY PERSON, LET ALONE A CITY, THAT WOULD RAMROD A PROJECT LIKE THIS DOWN THEIR CONSTITUENTS THROATS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DARK CUTBACKS. THERE NEVER WILL BE ADEQUATE MASS TRANSIT THIS FAR FROM THE CORE OF DOWNTOWN, AND THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THIS THAT MAKES ANY SENSE AT ALL.

DO NOT DO THIS TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA.

PLEASE USE COMMON SENSE AND NOT NONSENSE WHEN VOTING ON THIS PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

ARE WE GOOD? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JANE MAXWELL.

I LIVE AT 6948 CLAREHAVEN DRIVE. I HAVE LIVED IN THAT HOUSE SINCE 1982.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK MISS ARNOLD. IT WAS VERY INSPIRING LISTENING TO YOU TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I ALSO WANT TO THANK CARA.

SHE WAS OUR COUNCIL PERSON. NOW SHE'S NOT IN.

THERE ARE A LOT OF US IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE VERY SAD ABOUT THAT.

SO THANK YOU. CARA. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN SO DISAPPOINTED IN THE IN THE PROCESS.

I DON'T REALLY GET INVOLVED IN THIS KIND OF THING.

I KIND OF STAY WITH MY KIDS AND WHAT MY KIDS DO.

BUT I FELT LIKE I HAD TO SPEAK OUT NOW BECAUSE I'M HEARING THINGS THAT REALLY UPSET ME.

NUMBER ONE, WE WENT TO A MEETING AT THE BIBLE CHURCH.

IT WAS A BAIT AND SWITCH. WE DIDN'T GET TO TALK ABOUT PEPPER SQUARE UNTIL 45 MINUTES INTO THE MEETING.

BUT WE HAD TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC SERVANTS SPEAK.

AND WHEN THEY WERE ASKED WHAT KIND OF SERVICE THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE TO US WHEN WE HAD THIS PROPOSAL COME UP, THEY COULD NOT SAY THAT THEY COULD HELP US. THESE ARE JUST REGULAR.

THEY WERE JUST A POLICE OFFICER, A PARAMEDIC, AND THEY COULD NOT SAY THAT THEY COULD HELP US WITH OUR RESPONSE TIMES.

I KIND OF WENT, WHOA. THEN WE HAD A COG REPRESENTATIVE WHO SPENT PROBABLY 15 MINUTES TALKING DOWN TO US ABOUT PRESTON ROAD AND HOW AT ONE POINT I WAS AMAZED IT WAS NOW OUR FAULT THAT PRESTON ROAD WAS IN THE CONDITION AND THAT IT WAS IN. I'M LIKE, REALLY? OKAY. AND THEN WE FINALLY GET TO PEPPER SQUARE.

OH, AND THEN THE WOMAN WHO CAME UP, AND I DON'T EVEN THINK SHE EVEN KNEW SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO. MY NAME IS SUE BOK.

I LIVE AT 15746 COVE WOOD CIRCLE. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR TIME.

THESE ARE LONG MEETINGS, AND I APPRECIATE THE THE CONSIDERATION THAT YOU GIVE TO THE SPEAKERS THAT COME UP.

I HAD A WHOLE OTHER SPEECH READY TO GIVE, AND THEN I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT A 12 STORY BUILDING WAS A COMPROMISE.

AND I WAS JUST SHOCKED THAT THAT WAS THE COMPROMISE.

AND I STARTED THINKING HOW THAT TOUCHED MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.

IF MY TEENAGE DAUGHTER HAD SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW, THIS 10:00 CURFEW WOULD REALLY BE BETTER IF I COULD COME IN AT 4 A.M.

AND WE WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU REALLY DON'T, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ASK, BUT YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO SET YOUR OWN CURFEW, BUT YOU CAN ASK. AND SHE WOULD SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS AND WE'LL TALK TOGETHER AND WE'LL COME TO A COMPROMISE.

AND THAT HER COMPROMISE FINALLY WOULD BE 1:00 INSTEAD OF 4:00.

AND WE WOULD SAY, NO, WE'RE SAYING TEN. AND SHE'S SAYING THAT'S A 50% COMPROMISE THAT I'M GIVING YOU AND YOU'RE NOT ACCEPTING IT.

YOU'RE STILL UNREASONABLE. ALL RIGHT. AND WE WOULD SAY, WELL, MAYBE WE COULD GO TO 11, BUT SHE WOULD STILL BE TELLING ALL OF HER FRIENDS HOW

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UNREASONABLE AND WHAT TERRIBLE PARENTS WE WERE.

WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD THINK THAT WE WERE.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN UNREASONABLE.

I THINK WE WANT TO TRY AND MAINTAIN THE STANDARDS HERE.

SO I ASK YOU, PLEASE GIVE US TIME TO WORK WITH HENRY S MILLER.

DEFER THIS FOR 90 DAYS SO THAT WE CAN COME TO TRUE COMPROMISES AND GIVE EACH OTHER THE INCENTIVE AND ENGAGE IN REASONABLENESS.

AGAIN, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. HI, I'M MARY ELLEN SMITH. I LIVE AT 13122 HILLCREST ROAD IN DALLAS.

I. NEED TO PUT MY GLASSES ON. I WANT TO PLEAD WITH Y'ALL TO RETHINK THE ZONING.

THE REZONING AT PEPPER SQUARE. THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE WORKED EXTREMELY HARD OVER THE LAST PAST THREE YEARS TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD ON THIS MATTER.

I FEEL THAT IF WE LEAVE THE REZONING WITH NO SPECIFICS FOR MILLER AND MASTER, PLAN TO FOLLOW THAT WE MAY END UP WITH BUILDINGS, WHEREVER THAT THEY END UP BUILDING WHATEVER THEY WANT, WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD PUSHBACK MEANING THAT THEY COULD BUILD FIVE, SEVEN, AND 12 STORY BUILDINGS OR JUST KEEP ALL THE BUILDINGS AT 12 STORIES.

THIS IS IF THIS REZONING IS PASSED. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SIT DOWN WITH MILLER AND GET SOME OF ALL OF THIS.

GET SOMETHING ALL OF US WILL AGREE ON AND WILL STICK TO.

AFTER ALL OF THIS TIME AND EFFORT, IT IS NOT FAIR TO COMPLETELY NEGATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD EFFORTS, AND WITH 91% STATING THAT THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE REZONED TO GIVE MILLER OR MASTERPLAN CARTE CARTE BLANCHE REZONING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND WE APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD PUT THIS VOTE OFF UNTIL THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS COULD SPEAK TO MILLER AND MASTER, PLAN AGAIN, AND GET SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT PRECISELY SHOWS WHAT THIS PLAN FOR PEPPER SQUARE WOULD BE.

THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO. LAKE-LEHMAN MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, HAS HE HEARD ANYTHING BACK FROM THE PEPPER SQUARE PEOPLE ON WHAT WE WOULD ACCEPT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO STATE IN REBUTTAL TO THAT, THAT THE MEETINGS THAT WERE MASTER PLAN DID ASK US TO COME TO.

THERE WERE NO IT WAS WE WERE TOLD, PICK ONE OF THESE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND MAKE A COMPROMISE WITH THEM THAT WILL BENEFIT BOTH OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND MASTER PLAN.

AND WILL MILLER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. COOKIE PAYTON I RESIDE AT 7111 DEBBIE DRIVE, DALLAS.

NORMALLY I'M A CALM, RATIONAL PERSON, ALTHOUGH THAT MAY BE UP FOR DEBATE RIGHT NOW.

TODAY I'M A LITTLE ANGRY, A LITTLE UPSET. I READ THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS ARTICLE AND I DO LIVE IN DISTRICT 12, SO I'M NOT IN DISTRICT 11, BUT I SHOP ALL THE TIME AT PEPPER SQUARE.

I ATTENDED ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT MASTER PLAN HELD AT THE VARIOUS REC CENTERS AND PLACES.

I JUST I WANT TO ASK YOU, DO THESE PEOPLE SOUND LIKE THE IRRATIONAL PEOPLE AND THE UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE INDIVIDUALS THAT THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS SLANTED THAT ARTICLE TODAY? I DON'T THINK THAT'S TRUE, BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN WE'RE WILLING TO COMPROMISE.

LET'S GET A COUPLE OF FACTS ON THE TABLE SINCE I WENT TO ALL THOSE MEETINGS.

TIME AND AGAIN, RESIDENTS OFFERED SUGGESTIONS OF HOW THIS PLAN COULD BE IMPROVED.

TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THEY SAW NO CHANGES IN THE PLANS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THEM.

WHO'S UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE? NO ONE HAS ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED A MAJOR CONCERN THAT THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS CAME OVER AND TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION ON PRESTON. THE RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 5000 MORE UNITS IN THAT AREA, INCLUDING THAT'S I'M SORRY, THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE ALREADY PREVALENT NUMBER OF APARTMENTS WE HAVE THERE.

PRESTON IS ALREADY GRIDLOCKED. YOU'VE HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE SAY THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST INTERSECTIONS IN ALL OF DALLAS.

WE RECENTLY HAD A CHILD KILLED CROSSING BELTLINE ROAD.

WE'RE ASKING THAT WE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE.

I URGE YOU TO DEFER ACTION ON THIS ITEM, AND REQUEST THAT THE DEVELOPERS AND THE CITIZENS THAT YOU REPRESENT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND COMPROMISE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY HERE WANTS IS A COMPROMISE TO THIS PLAN.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE CASEY AND I LIVE AT. YEAH, YEAH. PRESS THE BUTTON, PLEASE.

MY NAME IS CHRISTINE CASEY AND I LIVE AT 7025 REGAL VIEW CIRCLE, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT 11.

AND I WANTED TO COMMENT ABOUT THAT POLL THAT PEOPLE WERE REFERRING TO WITH A 91% AGAINST THAT WAS REFERRING TO AN ARTICLE IN THE AUGUST 7TH DALLAS MORNING NEWS. AND THE 91% WERE OPPOSED TO A DEVELOPMENT WITH MORE THAN 400 APARTMENTS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT AMENABLE TO A DEVELOPMENT WITH 300 APARTMENTS OR 350 APARTMENTS.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING MORE REASONABLE. THE TRAFFIC AT BELTLINE AND PRESTON IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC.

AND THAT'S BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR TONTI PROPERTIES.

THEY'VE STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON 500 APARTMENTS.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER 1800 HOUSING UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF PRESTON AND BELTLINE.

IT'S CALLED PRESTON DEL NORTE. SO WE'RE NOT AMENABLE.

WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT AGAINST HOUSING. WE'RE NOT AGAINST APARTMENTS.

WE'RE AGAINST THE 12 STORY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED WITH 1000 UNITS.

IT'S JUST TOO MANY. THE TRAFFIC IS TOO BAD ALREADY.

SO WE HOPE YOU CAN DEFER THIS UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW REPRESENTATIVE.

WE HOPE YOU CAN DEFER IT FOR THE 60 DAYS UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW REPRESENTATIVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. MY NAME IS GRANVILLE JENKINS.

I RESIDE IN DISTRICT. CAN YOU HEAR ME? MY NAME IS GRANVILLE JENKINS.

I RESIDE IN DISTRICT 11. ABOUT A MILE AND A QUARTER FROM PEPPER SQUARE.

I AM, ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING IN ITS CURRENT FORM.

I BEG THAT THE COUNCIL PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOLLOW THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

I WORK IN LINCOLN CENTER AT TOLLWAY AND 635 AND SO I COME UP 35 ON MY WAY HOME TO DISTRICT 11 EVERY DAY. AND THE NIGHTMARE OF A TRAFFIC JAM NORTHBOUND ON PRESTON AND BOTH DIRECTIONS IS IS AWFUL.

FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO IMPLY THAT THEY'RE ACTING IN GOOD FAITH BY STARTING OFF AT 3500 MULTIFAMILY RENTAL UNITS AND THEN SETTLING FOR JUST UNDER A THOUSAND IS NOT A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO REZONING.

WE JUST NEED A RESET AND A BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IMPACTS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS.

COUNCILWOMAN FOR MY DISTRICT DOES NOT REPRESENT ME, DOES NOT REPRESENT MOST OF THE PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN WITH IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND BEG FOR A RESET UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER TO REPRESENT US IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS HERE, WE CAN DO BETTER. PEPPER SQUARE IS GREAT. AND FOR ANYBODY TO IMPLY THAT IT'S BLIGHTED AND AN EYESORE AND NOT A TAX REVENUE GENERATOR IS JUST SIMPLY WRONG. IT NEEDS WORK. BUT WE NEED TO WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND NOT BUILD A STERILE MULTIFAMILY RENTAL UNIT THAT ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS THE CHARACTER. WHAT LITTLE IS REMAINING OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M KENDALL RICHARDSON. I RESIDE AT 13695 GOLD MARK DRIVE, APARTMENT 3208.

I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS PEPPER SQUARE ISSUE, AND I HAVE A QUESTION. SO IF A PERSON CONSIDERS COUNTING TREES FOR $6.3 MILLION WHERE THE TREES DON'T HAVE A VOICE, WHY DON'T YOU CONSIDER AND SAY NO TO THE PEOPLE THAT DO HAVE VOICES? WHAT HAPPENED TO WE THE PEOPLE? THIS IS WHY PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME OR IN MY AGE GROUP, DO NOT COME DOWN TO THE HORSESHOE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT I APPLAUD COUNCILWOMAN CAROLYN KING ARNOLD AND CAROL MENDELSOHN, BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO OF YOUR

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COLLEAGUES THAT ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND WORK ON THEIR BEHALF.

SO I'M ASKING YOU TO FOLLOW YOUR COLLEAGUES AND DO THE SAME THING.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MONA EL-SHENNAWI, AND I RESIDE IN 6816 EAGLE BLUFF CIRCLE. I WOULD I WAS NOT PREPARED TODAY.

I HAD NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER OF SPEAKING TODAY.

BUT I FELT IN MY HEART THAT I HAD TO APPROACH THE PODIUM BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

I FIND IT VERY DISRESPECTFUL THAT TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS IN PARTICULAR, ONE REPRESENTING MY DISTRICT, HAS BEEN LAUGHING AT COMMENTARY FROM PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT.

WE ARE HOMEOWNERS. WE FOUGHT VERY HARD TO PURCHASE OUR HOMES, AND I DON'T THINK LAUGHTER IS APPROPRIATE.

IS THIS HIGH SCHOOL OR ARE THESE FULLY FUNCTIONAL ADULTS THAT ARE PROFESSIONALS SITTING AROUND THE HORSESHOE AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS? THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, I DON'T APPRECIATE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE LABELED THIS AGENDA AS AN ELITIST AGENDA.

THERE'S NOTHING ELITIST ABOUT ME. I REPRESENT A SINGLE FEMALE HEADED HOUSEHOLD, AND MANY TIMES I WAS STUCK ON PRESIDENT BELTLINE PRACTICALLY HAVING HEART PALPITATIONS IN MY ATTEMPT TO PICK UP MY SON FROM SCHOOL AT PRESTONWOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ONE MILE AWAY FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. RICHARDSON ISD CAPS YOU AT 6 P.M.

AFTER TWO TIMES, THEY KICK YOU OUT OF THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM.

IF I DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, I COULD NOT RETAIN MY FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT.

SO THIS IS NOT UNDER THE GUISE OF EQUITY OR UNDER THE GUISE OF HOUSING AND WHATNOT.

I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT THE WORD EQUITY HAS BEEN CO-OPTED TO SUPPORT.

DEVELOPMENT. WITH THAT BEING SAID JUST CONCLUSIVELY, MY HEART RACING AGAIN.

I DIDN'T HAVE STATEMENTS PREPARED CONCLUSIVELY.

I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT I SUPPORT MANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS BEHIND ME.

PLEASE POSTPONE THIS ACTION ITEM UNTIL LATER ONCE OUR NEW REPRESENTATIVE IS ELECTED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. THANK YOU.

SO MUCH. OKAY. I KNOW EVERYBODY'S EXHAUSTED. I KNOW I AM.

WE'VE DONE THIS MORE THAN ONCE. MY NAME IS DOCTOR SHARON SPAULDING.

I'M AT 72, 72, 30 LEE MEADOW DRIVE, AND I'M IN DISTRICT 11.

THE NEIGHBORS OF DISTRICT 11 THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE PLANS THAT PEPPER SQUARE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR THREE YEARS TO EXPLAIN TO DEVELOPERS, CPC AND NOW TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE NEED.

AT PEPPER SQUARE, WE HAVE COMPILED RESULTS OF SURVEYS.

YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS, OF COUNTLESS MEETINGS WITH NEIGHBORS, COUNCIL PERSONS, MEMBERS OF THE POLICE, THE FIRE TEXDOT, EVEN OUR SURVEYS WITH 20 AND YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS HOA'S HAVE REVEALED THAT 91% OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE AGAINST THIS ZONING. WE FOUND THROUGH RESEARCH THAT THERE ARE ALREADY VACANT APARTMENTS IN OUR AREA.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 5000 IN THAT AREA, CAN YOU IMAGINE TRYING TO DRIVE DOWN THE STREET? THE PROBLEM WITH THE PRESENT PLAN IS THAT DEVELOPERS DON'T LIVE HERE.

UNTIL YOU LIVE IN THE PROPOSED PROJECT, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND OUR VIEWPOINT.

WHEN HILLCREST VILLAGE WAS FINALLY A REALITY THANKS TO SANDY GRAYSON, THE DEVELOPERS OF THAT PROJECT WERE NEIGHBORS.

THEY ARE. THEY WERE. THEY KNOW WHAT WE WANTED AND NEEDED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED AND NEEDED.

HILLCREST HAS BEEN A SUCCESS IN EVERY WAY. NEIGHBORS ARE VOTERS.

WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I THINK I AM BLESSEDLY THE LAST SPEAKER THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO LISTEN TO.

SANDY GRAYSON, 72, 38 HEATHER MOOR DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75248.

WE READ TODAY IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS THAT THIS PEPPER SQUARE ZONING CASE IS A MESS, AND IT'S TAKEN WAY TOO LONG.

WE AGREE. BUT TO BE CLEAR, THE COMMUNITY HASN'T CREATED THIS MESS THE DEVELOPER HAS.

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THERE ARE 20 HOA'S IN THE PEPPER SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION.

IN THREE YEARS, THE COALITION LEADERS HAVE NEVER HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON AN ACCEPTABLE COMPROMISE.

IN THIS CASE, THE DEVELOPER. MILLER, WON'T TALK TO US.

HE THINKS HE DOESN'T HAVE TO. ALL FOUR CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR COUNCIL IN DISTRICT 11 HAVE TOLD US THIS CASE HAS BEEN MISHANDLED, AND THEY WOULD DO IT DIFFERENTLY. PLEASE GIVE US THE CHANCE TO NEGOTIATE A BETTER OUTCOME.

A 90 DAY DELAY WITH THE DEVELOPER DIRECTED TO WORK WITH THE COALITION WOULD RESULT IN A MORE ACCEPTABLE PROJECT.

ANYTHING LESS THAN 90 DAYS WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO LISTENING. TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE TODAY, PART OF OVER A THOUSAND DISTRICT 11 RESIDENTS WHO HAVE CONSISTENTLY OPPOSED THIS CURRENT PLAN. SURELY, SURELY A THOUSAND VOICES SHOULD CARRY MORE WEIGHT THAN THE VOICE OF ONE DEVELOPER WHO HAS LET THE SHOPPING CENTER DECLINE IN ORDER TO MAKE WHAT HE THINKS IS A STRONGER CASE FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? I SEE JUST ONE. OKAY. THIS WILL BE THE LAST. HELLO.

GREG MILLER, 5151 BELTLINE. AS A DEVELOPER, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME ON THIS MATTER.

I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A LONG TIME, AND ACTUALLY IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS. WHEN STEIN MART WENT OUT OF BUSINESS, WE SAID THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO REDEVELOP THAT PART OF THE CENTER FOR APARTMENTS.

AND WE CAME TO YOU AT THAT TIME AND IT WAS REJECTED.

SO THEN WE CIRCLED BACK AND WE KIND OF DEVELOPED MORE OF A MASTER PLAN AND TO TRY TO UNLOCK THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY.

YES. WE HAVE DELIBERATELY HELD OFF ON MAKING NEW LEASES AND SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE PENDING THE OUTCOME OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.

WE WANT TO DELIVER SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL. THE REASON FOR THE 12 STORIES IS I WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO LAST.

IT'S GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE AND BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S GOING TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE A HIGHER QUALITY OF RETAIL. AND AND SO, YEAH, EVERY DAY OF DELAY IS ECONOMIC HARM TO THE PROPERTY.

SO I URGE YOU TO PLEASE KINDLY APPROVE. THANK YOU.

HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN, SHOOT. YOU HAVE A MOTION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IF I DO AFTER THAT, I'LL HAVE COMMENTS.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

PROHIBIT A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THRU SERVICE IN PHASE P, MINIMUM SIDE AND REAR YARD IS 50FT FOR PORTIONS OF A BUILDING ABOVE 90FT ABOVE GRADE, AND TOWER SPACING ONLY APPLIES TO A TOTAL SETBACK OF 80FT.

TOTAL MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS 868.

IF RECEIVING THE RETIREMENT HOUSING DENSITY BONUS MAXIMUM STRUCTURE HEIGHT IS 165FT.

STRIKE THE STRIKE. THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES.

SURFACE PARKING IS PROHIBITED BETWEEN FACADES AND INTERNAL DRIVES.

DELETE THE REQUIREMENT THAT MICROMOBILITY CHARGING STATIONS MUST BE PROVIDED.

ADD BENCHES AND DELETE MICROMOBILITY CHARGING STATIONS AS ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR REQUIRED PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES.

WITH OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE, TWO DETACH SIGNS ARE ALLOWED PER STREET FRONTAGE.

DELETE ALL MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUSES AND ADD A 20 YEAR RETIREMENT HOUSING RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO RECEIVE THE RETIREMENT HOUSING DENSITY BONUS.

SECOND, AND A COMMENT. YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. PEPPER SQUARE IS A DIFFICULT ZONING CASE.

IN FACT, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT AMONG THE HUNDREDS OF CASES I'VE PARTICIPATED IN OVER MY 11 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WHAT MAKES THIS CASE DIFFICULT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE COMPLEXITY OF THE ZONING.

IT'S THE WAY OUR COMMUNITY HAS BECOME DIVIDED.

NORTH DALLAS HAS BECOME A TEST MARKET FOR MEDIA CAMPAIGNS, AND THE NEGATIVE ATTENTION HAS TURNED PEPPER SQUARE INTO A POLITICAL SCAPEGOAT.

LAND USE, WHILE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT, CAN ALSO BE ONE OF THE MOST CONTENTIOUS ASPECTS OF LEADERSHIP BECAUSE THE WIDE VARIETY OF PERSPECTIVES CAN COME FROM ACTUAL NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, EACH CLAIMING TO REPRESENT THE VOICES OF THE COMMUNITY.

SUCH IS THE SITUATION WITH PEPPER SQUARE OVER 50 YEARS AGO, WHEN THIS PART OF DALLAS WAS DEVELOPING, THERE WAS DEMAND AND FINANCING FOR SUBURBAN STYLE RETAIL CENTERS TO SERVE THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE MOVING TO NORTH DALLAS.

THIS MODEL OF RETAIL IS NO LONGER VIABLE OR DESIRED.

ADDITIONALLY, THE LACK OF HOUSING IN NORTH DALLAS HAS CAUSED PROBLEMS FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS AND HUNDREDS OF YOUNG FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY CANNOT FIND HOUSING IN THE SAME AREAS WHERE

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THEY GREW UP AND WANT TO LIVE. TODAY, EMPTY NESTERS ARE NOT MOVING FROM THEIR LARGE HOMES, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY WANT TO DOWNSIZE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF SMALLER HOMES.

THE PROPERTY OWNER HELD 12 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS FROM 22 TO 23.

THEY STARTED WITH 2300 UNITS AND A RE-IMAGINATION OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

NEIGHBORS ASKED FOR LESS HOUSING, AMPLE GREEN SPACE, CONNECTED TRAILS, RETAIL, AND A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT BERRY TRAIL.

THE PARCEL, CONTAINING BOTH STORES, HOBBY LOBBY AND TRADER JOE'S HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE APPLICATION AT THEIR REQUEST.

HOUSING IS NOW AT 752 UNITS AND 116 ADDITIONAL UNITS FOR RETIRING RETIREMENT HOUSING, ALLOWING FOR A MAXIMUM OF 868 UNITS. THERE ARE OVER TWO ACRES OF PARKS, A TRAIL TO BERT FIELDS PARK, AND RETAIL SURROUNDING OPEN SPACE.

RETAIL FAVORITES SUCH AS URBAN AIR, THE SWIM CENTER AT PEPPER SQUARE DRY CLEANERS WILL STAY AND RETAIL AROUND.

A PARK. CONCEPT WILL BE BUILT DUE TO SUGGESTIONS FROM NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS SIMILAR TO HILLCREST VILLAGE.

ALL OUTWARD HOUSING UNITS HAVE STOOPS OR DIRECT ACCESS TO THE STREET, CREATING A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE FEEL TO THE DEVELOPMENT.

THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS DESIGN.

THE BIGGEST CONCERNS FOR AREA RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ABOUT TRAFFIC AND HEIGHT.

TRAFFIC ON BELTLINE AND PRESTON IS ALREADY A PRIMARY CONCERN, AND ADDING MORE RESIDENTS MAY SEEM SOMEWHAT COUNTERINTUITIVE.

HOWEVER, IT'S AN ENGINEERING FACT THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT REDUCES TRAFFIC CONGESTION IN COMPARISON TO PURELY COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS.

THE INSTITUTE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HAVE TRIP GENERATION DATA SHOWING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO HAVE 5 TO 10 TIMES MORE TRIPS THAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

AT OUR REQUEST, THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL, NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS DID AN EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS AND REVEALED THAT 63% OF THE TRAFFIC ON PRESTON ROAD COMES FROM PLANO. MAKING PRESTON ROAD FLOW BETTER WILL REDUCE CONGESTION AND ENCOURAGE COMMUTERS TO USE THE HIGHWAYS.

AS A RESULT OF THIS APPLICATION, WE HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR A SIGNIFICANT GRANT TO PILOT A NEW SYSTEM ENABLING THIS CHANGE IN TRAFFIC FLOW FOR 15 SIGNALS FROM ARAPAHOE TO 635. THE HEIGHT ON PRESTON ROAD IS CONCERNING TO TO MANY.

HOWEVER, BY PUSHING THE HEIGHT ABOVE FIVE STOREYS, STEEL CONSTRUCTION WILL BE REQUIRED, ENABLING THE DEVELOPER TO POTENTIALLY OFFER FOR SALE PRODUCTS, WHICH WE CANNOT BY LAW MANDATE WITH REDUCED NUMBER OF UNITS, THEY CAN BE LARGER, SATISFYING THE DEMAND FOR EMPTY NESTER HOUSING.

THIS BUILDING IS NOT TALLER THAN THE EXISTING BUILDING ON PRESTON.

THE REDUCED DENSITY WILL ENABLE THE ARCHITECTS TO BUILD A SMALLER FOOTPRINT WITH LARGER UNITS.

WE NEED VIABLE SOLUTIONS TO MODERN PROBLEMS. ONLINE SHOPPING HAS REDUCED THE PROMINENCE OF BIG BOX RETAIL, AND RETAIL ALONE CANNOT KEEP THE SPACE VIBRANT.

RETAIL SPACES ARE CLOSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WITHOUT ACTION, WE RISK STAGNATION. THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF SIGNIFICANT EFFORTS FROM EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT TO REACH COMPROMISE.

AS NRDNA, THE NORTH DALLAS NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE STATED LAST YEAR REGARDING FORWARD DALLAS QUOTE, DENSITY IS AN OBVIOUS NEED GIVEN THE PROJECTED GROWTH OF DALLAS.

THAT GROWTH SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT ABANDONED OR DERELICT SHOPPING CENTERS AND WAREHOUSES THAT ALREADY CRY FOR FOR RESUSCITATION.

DALLAS SHOULD FOCUS REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS AND DENSITY INCREASES IN THOSE AREAS.

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. PLEASE LET US UNITE IN ENSURING THAT PEPPER SQUARE BECOMES THE LIVELY, VIBRANT SPACE THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE. I HOPE OUR COMMUNITY CAN RETURN TO THE WARM, FRIENDLY PLACE THAT HAS BROUGHT SO MANY OF US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO BRANT RUBIN, CPC STAFF, AND EACH OF YOU, MY COLLEAGUES AND THOSE OF YOU IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO CHOSE TO LISTEN AND BE RESPECTFUL. THANK YOU. NO ONE ELSE.

OH, ALLEN. DEVON. MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS CASE.

THIS IS DEFINITELY A HARD CASE. DESPITE ME NOT AGREEING WITH THE MAJORITY OF WHO WE HEARD FROM.

I DO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN AND FOR ADVOCATING.

I DO I DID JUST BURY THE HEADLINE. I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

I THINK THAT THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE SHOULD BE WELCOMING INTO THE CITY.

IN FACT, IF WE LOOK BACK AT PROBABLY THE MOST RECENT CONTENTIOUS ARGUMENT THAT CAME UP AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, IT WAS ABOUT AN UPDATE OF OUR FORWARD DALLAS COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN IN OUR CITY.

THE ARGUMENT THAT I HEARD IN OPPOSITION OF WHAT THAT PLAN WAS GOING TO DO WAS INFILTRATE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH DENSE DEVELOPMENT.

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THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT. THIS IS ACTUALLY SHOWING WHERE THIS MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION.

I CAN'T I CAN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING IN MY WORDS THAT'S GOING TO MAKE YOU LEAVE WITH ANY MORE EASE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS POINT THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE. BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THAT MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED UP TO ON ZONING CASES IS IT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST MISCONCEPTION THAT MULTIFAMILY AND VERY DENSE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS INCREASE TRAFFIC.

IT'S JUST NOT IT DOESN'T MATERIALIZE. IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING, FOR INSTANCE, AN OFFICE BUILDING WITH HALF THE AMOUNT OF OF SUITES THAN A DEVELOPMENT WITH DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF UNITS.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TRAFFIC FROM A DEVELOPMENT OF SOMETHING THAT IS MEANT TO TRACK PEOPLE AROUND THE SAME TIME, AND WHERE THERE'S ACTUAL RUSH HOUR. THE TRANSIENT SCHEDULES OF THOSE LIVING IN A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS SO VARIABLE THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY TYPE OF CONCENTRATION SPECIFICALLY.

IN FACT, I WOULD ARGUE THAT BECAUSE OF THE RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING TO THE AREA.

THE TRAFFIC THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO WITNESS MOST IS GOING TO BE FROM Y'ALL COMING OUT OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS TO PATRONIZE THE BUSINESSES THAT EXIST HERE.

WE'VE SEEN IT AT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE CITY. YOU CAN SHAKE YOUR HEAD ALL YOU WANT, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK FORWARD TO. PEOPLE THAT WANT TO MOVE INTO THIS TYPE OF A DEVELOPMENT, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE OVER MOCKINGBIRD STATION, FOR INSTANCE, AND CITY PLACE OR CITY SQUARE I MEAN, CITY PLACE OR UPTOWN WEST VILLAGE.

MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING THERE ARE, ARE LOOKING TO NOT GET IN THEIR CAR.

THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A WALKABLE WORK, LIVE PLAY TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE CONTRIBUTORS TO THE PARKING OR THE TRAFFIC INSIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I ALSO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT JUST THE THAT THERE'S A VERY RARE TIME THAT YOU CAN BE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE ISSUE AS BOTH PHILIP KINGSTON AND LEE KLEINMAN.

AND SO WITH THAT RARITY, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

I DO I KNOW WE HEARD DIFFERENT COMMENTS SOME THAT CONTRADICTED EACH OTHER AND OTHER COMMENTS.

BUT IF THE, THE, THE, THE DATA POINTS OR THE DATA POINTS AND I KNOW THAT CHANGES WERE MADE, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DID NOT MATERIALIZE TO WHAT IT IS THAT THE LOUDEST VOICES WANTED.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

I KNOW THAT I NOT EVEN IN A DISTRICT IN THE NORTH HAVE HEARD FROM A TON OF PEOPLE.

AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, NOT EVERYBODY JUST WANTS TO SHOW UP AND BE ON THE MIC.

I'VE WE'VE GOTTEN A TON OF EMAILS THAT ARE IN SUPPORT AS WELL.

IT'S NOT JUST IN OPPOSITION. WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE AREA.

AND JUST TO SAY THAT THERE IS WHICH THERE WAS CLEARLY AN ORGANIZED EFFORT TO TO MOUNT OPPOSITION.

I THINK THAT MR. KLEINMAN MADE A REALLY GOOD POINT.

YOU KNOW, IF I'M GETTING A NOTICE FROM SOMETHING AND IT'S ASKING ME TO RESPOND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, I'M MOST LIKELY GOING TO RESPOND IF I WANT MY VOICE HEARD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT THERE.

IF I IGNORE IT COMPLETELY AND THROW IT INTO THE TRASH WITH THE OTHER JUNK MAIL, IT'S BECAUSE I'M OKAY WITH IT COMING.

AND THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM QUITE A BIT OF RESIDENTS.

OVERALL, I BELIEVE THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT OUR TAX BASE BEING SUCH A PRIORITY.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO HELP YOUR AREA IN A LOT OF WAYS, AND QUITE FRANKLY, SOMETHING THAT OUR DISTRICT WOULD BE WELCOMING.

SO FOR THAT, I DO SUPPORT IT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON IT.

COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ, THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD, FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IN LISTENING TODAY, AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH IN LISTENING ABOUT THE COMPROMISE THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS WILLING TO ENGAGE IN AND TO YOU COUNCIL SHOOT SOME.

COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ, YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO JUST QUICKLY, THIS IS WHAT I WAS LISTENING FOR, MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THIS OUT.

WE'VE VISITED WE'VE WE'VE GOT A TON OF EMAILS, YOU KNOW, THAT AND SO WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A VOTE IN THE FALL WE WENT OUT

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TO DISTRICT FOUR, STAFF WENT OUT TO PEPPER SQUARE.

NOBODY KNEW WE WERE COMING. I WASN'T TRYING TO GRANDSTAND, BUT I NEEDED TO KNOW.

SO WHEN I WENT THERE AND I POSTED SOME PICTURES ON MY FACEBOOK PAGE FOR FOR FOR MY WHAT THE WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL RECEIPTS.

SO I WENT TO PEPPER SQUARE, AND I'M STANDING UNDER THE SIGN.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. THIS WAS ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON AFTER CHURCH, AND I KNOW I TOOK A PICTURE OF THIS CAR.

THAT CAR COULD NOT. IT WAS NOT EVEN IT WAS ON A SUNDAY.

I KNOW THAT CAR COULD NOT EVEN GET OUT OF THAT DRIVEWAY.

JUST SITTING THERE BECAUSE OF THE OF THE DYNAMICS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE A SYNCHRONIZATION OF THE LIGHTS OR WHAT.

I WAS JUST SHOCKED. SO WE TRAVELED, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT THE SHOPS THAT ARE THERE.

I LOOKED AT THE DECLINE AND, AND SOME OF THE OTHER THE SHOPS, YOU KNOW, HOBBY LOBBY WAS THERE.

AND NEXT DOOR THERE WAS A GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE, MAYBE I SAY YOUNG PEOPLE, BUT BUT FOLKS WITH YOUNG SPIRIT ON THAT SUNDAY PLAYING WHAT IS IT, CORN POLE OR WHATEVER THAT HOLE IS. THEY WERE HAVING A GOOD TIME AND WE TALKED TO SOME OF THEM, AND SOME OF THEM WERE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT, SOME AGAINST.

BUT WHAT WE EVENTUALLY DID, WE MOVED INTO THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO THE COMMUNITY IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL, BUT IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY.

IT'S ONE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN. IT'S ONE WHERE WE ALSO LET ME JUST WALK ON BEFORE SOMEONE STARTS SAYING IT'S NOT GERMANE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO BE BOTHERED BY THAT TODAY BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RESIDENT COMMUNITY.

SO WE, WE WE DROVE WE WENT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE CURB.

WE WENT TO THE SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL WAS HAVING A OKTOBERFEST OR SOMETHING THAT DAY.

I THINK IT WAS OCTOBER 20TH. SO I'VE TALKED TO THE PRINCIPAL, I'VE TALKED TO THE TEACHERS, I'VE PLAYED THE GAMES, I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE PARENTS.

AND SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVERYDAY LIVING IN A COMMUNITY.

SO WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT IF YOU HAVE THIS DENSITY THAT WAS BEING DESCRIBED AT THE TIME, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO WANT TO WALK TO SCHOOL.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ALL OF THE TRAFFIC BECAUSE NOW I'M GOING TO TRY TO AVOID PRECEDENT, I GUESS IN BELTLINE, I GOT A PICTURE OF THAT STREET SIGN THERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO AVOID THAT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO ALL OF THESE THINGS.

AND SO YOU HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. YOU HAVE BUSSES THAT ARE COMING NOW.

PARENTS ARE TRYING TO WALK THEIR CHILDREN. AND THIS IS WHERE I AM.

I'M A PARENT WITH WITH FOUR CHILDREN. YOU KNOW, WHO AT ONE TIME WE COULD WALK THEM TO SCHOOL IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT.

BUT ALL OF THAT TO ME NOW, THIS IS TO ME ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND I'M LISTENING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT'S OFF THE CHAIN TO ME.

ALL RIGHT. AND SO I CAN'T SEE THIS COMING IN A COMMUNITY WHERE YOU HAVE THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES I'VE MET, SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS. I'VE MET ONE NEIGHBOR, AND I THINK I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO JUMP ON ME. HE WAS ALREADY. I TOLD HIM I WAS THE CITY COUNCIL. HE WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, HOLD ON. HE WAS FRUSTRATED.

I'M LIKE, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. I'M HERE JUST TO GATHER DATA.

AND SO WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION. IS IT KIAWAH PARK? IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE THAT? I WENT IN, TOOK A PICTURE THERE.

KIOWA. KIOWA. THE BOTTOM LINE IS. IN THIS, IN MY CASE, AS I'M EXPERIENCING, I'M NOT EXPERIENCING A I DON'T WANT THIS IN MY BACK YARD.

Y'ALL KNOW I WOULD CALL IT OUT. THIS IS CALLED IF I LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WOULD PROBABLY BE RIGHT DOWN HERE TODAY. THIS IS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.

IF I LIVE IN GLEN OAKS, I'M GOING TO HAVE THE SAME FEELING ABOUT WHAT'S BEING DESCRIBED.

BUT TRYING TO WORK IT OUT. I WAS LISTENING TO SEE IF WE COULD, BUT THE CHILDREN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TRYING TO WALK TO SCHOOL, GET AN EDUCATION, PARENTS WHO ENJOY THAT. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'VE GOT TO GIVE IT TO YOU. JUST A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE.

AND SO I'M. I MAY HAVE TO COME BACK, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO ON MY FACEBOOK AND SEE WHAT I LOOK LIKE ON THAT SUNDAY AND WANT TO CHECK ME OUT, CHECK MY RECEIPTS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.

BUT AT THIS POINT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I KNOW WE HEAR THAT ABOUT NOT IN MY BACKYARD AND I GOT IT.

BUT WHAT I ALSO KNOW IS THIS THIS IS MY CONVICTION.

THERE IS AN ATTACK ON SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

YOU CAN CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. AND I CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN MY NEXT, NEXT THREE MINUTES.

EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU GOT THREE MINUTES COMING. THANK YOU. ANYTIME. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE UP. FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO AUGUST 13TH.

SECOND. I'D LIKE A RECORD VOTE, PLEASE.

ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK THE RESIDENTS HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THE DISCUSSION.

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RIGHT. GO AHEAD. THIS IS DEBATABLE, RIGHT? DEBATABLE? YES. I WILL SAY I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

I WOULD I THINK THAT IT'S SAFE TO SAY. NOW, AFTER THREE FULL TERMS, I'VE SEEN TWO ROUNDS OF FRESHMEN, AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE A COLLEAGUE THAT WAS COMING IN AND DOESN'T KNOW WHERE THE BATHROOMS ARE IN CITY HALL. HAVE TO TAKE THIS CASE ON TO TO GET THROUGH. SO I UNDERSTAND I UNDERSTAND THE TACTIC AND THE ATTEMPT TO KILL THIS IN A WAY THAT'S UNCONVENTIONAL.

BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT JUST AS WE HEARD FROM SPEAKERS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LISTEN TO THE VOTERS, RIGHT? THE VOTERS HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FOR THE DISTRICT, AND WE'VE SEEN LEADERSHIP THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

SO TO SAY THAT THERE IS ANY LACK OF DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO HAVE REPRESENTATION THROUGH THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE.

THIS IS BEFORE US. LEADERSHIP IS NOT PUNTING THE BALL.

LEADERSHIP IS NOT TAKING THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.

WE WERE ELECTED TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS, AND HARD DECISIONS ARE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO BE ONES THAT ARE THE EASIEST ROUTE, OR THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THE LOUDEST VOICE.

A DEFERRAL IS, LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS. THERE'S THERE'S A REASON WHY THAT YOU, YOU WENT THIS ROUTE INSTEAD OF MAKING A MOTION THAT COULD BE ACTUALLY TRYING TO KILL IT. INSTEAD, THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO DO SO.

I DO NOT THINK THAT IT IS A VERY GENUINE APPROACH.

I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT LETS THE FATE OF Y'ALL'S COMMUNITY OR OR WHAT IT IS THAT Y'ALL ARE FIGHTING FOR LINGER ON FOR ANOTHER HALF OF A YEAR.

WE ARE HERE AT THE HORSESHOE. WE'VE JUST HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION HERE TODAY, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THAT DECISION IS AND WHERE IT GOES.

THANK YOU. WOULD THAT LOOKS LIKE MISS MENDELSOHN.

LOOK, I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF NARVAEZ. HAVE YOU SPOKEN MR. MENDELSOHN? WELL, I DIDN'T I SAID THAT I WAS GOING TO JUST LET IT STAND WITH WHAT THEY SAID, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID.

FIRST OF ALL I WAS NOT MAKING A MOTION TO KILL IT.

I WAS MAKING A MOTION THAT WOULD ENABLE AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION TO HAPPEN.

THREE OUT OF FOUR CANDIDATES FROM DISTRICT 11 HAVE SPOKEN TODAY.

THEY'RE HERE. THEY'RE OPPOSED. THEY'RE WEARING A YELLOW SHIRT.

YES. YOU YOU MADE A MOTION THAT YOU SPOKE. SO I NEED TO GO TO THE.

WELL, I DIDN'T SPEAK. I SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK BECAUSE THEY HAD ALREADY SPOKEN.

YOU SPEAK. PARDON ME. GO AHEAD AND SPEAK. GO.

GO AHEAD. I'LL LET YOU GO. GO AHEAD. SO WE HAVE THREE OUT OF FOUR CANDIDATES FOR DISTRICT 11 HERE.

THERE'S THERE'S A VERY CLEAR CONSENSUS IN DISTRICT 11 ABOUT WHAT OUGHT TO HAPPEN HERE.

FRANKLY, THERE'S A PRETTY CLEAR CONSENSUS IN DISTRICT 12 ABOUT WHAT OUGHT TO HAPPEN.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU, I LIVE TWO MILES FROM THIS, USUALLY IN A DEVELOPMENT.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER LIVES CLOSEST. IT'S THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE CASE. THE COUNCIL MEMBER HERE LIVES THREE MILES AWAY.

OF ORDER. POINT OF ORDER. WHAT ON EARTH ARE WE? EXCUSE ME. THAT'S NOT HOW YOU MAKE A POINT OF ORDER.

WELL. IT'S OKAY. JUST STICK TO YOUR MOTION. SO THE IMPORTANCE OF DELAYING THIS IS TO ALLOW AND COMPEL MAYBE THE COALITION TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WILL REPRESENT THEM.

IF THIS WAS ANOTHER PART OF TOWN. EXCUSE ME. EXCUSE ME.

COME ON. NO. NO CLAPPING. OKAY. IF THIS WAS HAPPENING IN OAK CLIFF, I'M SORRY.

WE WOULD HAVE THE OAK LAWN COMMITTEE INVOLVED IF THIS WAS AN UPTOWN AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN IGNORED AND HAS BEEN FROZEN OUT. AND I'VE SEEN THE VIDEOS OF WHAT THE MEETING HAPPENED AT THE MEETINGS AND THE RESIDENTS ARE TALKED TO, THEY'RE NOT TALKED WITH, AND IT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE IN THIS PLACE.

POINT OF ORDER TO DO IS RESET. POINT OF ORDER.

YES, COMMENTS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BECOME PERSONAL, WHICH IT'S ALREADY GONE TWICE.

THAT'S AGAINST 12 A IN OUR ETHICS. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, I BELIEVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS A DEFERRAL AND NOT AN ADVOCACY FOR THE ORIGINAL AGENDA ITEM. THIS IS NOT GERMANE, MR. MAYOR. THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU. SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DEFER.

THIS HAS OBVIOUSLY GONE ON VERY LONG TIME. THE THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS FRESH, NOT SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHERE THE RESTROOM IS HERE.

BUT THE REASON WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO WHERE IT'S FRESH IS ACTUALLY, MR. MILLER SAID IT HIMSELF. THEY BROUGHT THIS CASE WHEN THE CURRENT COUNCIL MEMBER WAS THE CPC CHAIR THE FIRST TIME,

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AND THE CURRENT ADVOCATE WAS THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL CONFLICTED UP IN THIS BUSINESS, AND WE NEED FRESH EYES THAT ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE VOTERS, AND THAT IS WHY IT SHOULD BE DELAYED. HOPEFULLY THEY WILL COME UP WITH A COMPROMISE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE WILLING TO HAVE HOUSING IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR MAIN INTEREST IS, BUT MAYBE NOT AT THE LEVEL YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME. 4 OR 5 TIMES WHEN SHE'LL LEAVE.

COME ON. LET'S BE COURTEOUS, OKAY. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS CASE HAS BEEN WILD SINCE THE GET GO.

IT IS. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A CASE SO HARD. AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE OR WHATEVER.

IT'S BECAUSE THIS IS A HARD CASE. AND. AND I'VE HAD MY DOOZIES AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

I'M IN MY LAST TERM AND I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO ESCAPE A HARD CASE.

I DID IN MY DISTRICT, BUT PEPPER SQUARE IS GOING TO BE THE ONE FOR THIS TERM.

THERE'S ALWAYS ONE RIGHT AT THE END OF THE TERM. AND IT BECOMES VERY POLITICAL AND VERY YOU KNOW, GRANDSTANDING, ESPECIALLY AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

AND A LOT OF TIMES NOT EVEN OR VERY DISINGENUOUS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY EASY TO SIT UP HERE AND GO TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR SO YOU CAN APPLAUD. AND THAT PERSON CAN FEEL REALLY, REALLY GREAT AND GOOD AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S NICE. IT ALSO HURTS WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT YOU'RE NOT WORKING OR YOU DON'T WORK ON BEHALF OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHEN THERE'S NOT A SINGLE PERSON ON HERE, WHETHER I GET ALONG WITH THEM OR NOT, THAT DOES NOT WORK THEIR TAIL OFF.

ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS I'M PROUD TO WORK WITH EACH OF THESE PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF OUR PERSONALITIES, BUT EACH OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY DO WORK. THEY WANT TO MAKE DALLAS A BETTER PLACE.

THEY RAN FOR OFFICE FOR A CERTAIN REASON. THEY LEAVE FOR A CERTAIN REASON, WHETHER IT'S TERM LIMITS OR THEY CHOOSE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE OR YOU BOOT THEM OUT OF OFFICE. RIGHT. THAT'S DEMOCRACY. AND I WILL TELL YOU, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO WALK IN AND DO A ZONING CASE, EVEN IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE BRAND NEW, I'M JUST GIVING YOU A LITTLE BIT OF MY HISTORY.

WHEN YOU'RE BRAND NEW, EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS CITY WANTS TO MEET WITH YOU.

A MILLION MEETINGS? A MILLION. I MEAN, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW.

YOU'RE JUST SPINNING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE TURNING YOU THIS WAY.

THAT WAY. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TIME OVER THAT SUMMER TO DO THIS WORK? BECAUSE I PROMISE YOU, CANDIDATES. BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL ARE HERE.

AND I KNOW YOU ALL MEAN WHAT YOU SAY. BUT IT IS LIKE DRINKING OUT OF 15 FIRE HOSES AT THE EXACT SAME TIME.

WHEN YOU FIRST GET IN HERE, AND YOU GOT TO DEAL WITH THE BUDGET. LUCKILY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BOND BECAUSE I HAD TO DEAL WITH THE BOND AS WELL DURING THAT TIME AND BUILD AN OFFICE AND GET PREPARED AND GET READY.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK, I PROMISE YOU. IT IS A LOT OF WORK.

I WANTED TO SUPPORT A DELAY. I REALLY, REALLY DID, BUT I JUST HEARD SOME REALLY GOOD AMENDMENTS TO.

AND IT SOUNDED LIKE WHAT Y'ALL WERE, WHAT, A FEW OF Y'ALL, VERY FEW OF Y'ALL ACTUALLY GAVE DETAIL OF WHAT YOU ALL WANTED TO SEE.

THE VAST MAJORITY WERE JUST LIKE, NO. AND THAT'S OKAY. IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

BUT I DID WANT TO GIVE A DELAY. BUT IS IT OKAY IF I ASK THE DEVELOPER WHAT A DELAY WOULD DO AS FAR AS THIS CASE GOES? IF HE'LL ANSWER, IS THAT OKAY, MR. MAYOR? YES.

IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER, YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE MIC.

SORRY. COME TO THE MIC. COME ON DOWN TO THE MIC.

YEAH. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. ALSO, I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE FOR THE DENSITY IS BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING IN TWO ACRES, TWO PARKS OF TWO ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, BIKE TRAIL CONNECTIONS, A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

AND SO TO SUPPORT ALL THAT, WE NEED THE DENSITY TO TO MAKE IT WORK OUT.

IF IF YOU KEEP DELAYING ME, YOU KNOW, I MAY JUST DROP IT ALL TOGETHER AND AND LEASE THE STEINMARK SPACE TO ANY NUMBER OF ALL NIGHT DANCE HALLS. EXCUSE ME? BINGO PARLORS. EXCUSE ME.

YES, SIR. EXCUSE ME. I GOTTA HAVE AN ORDER. IF I DON'T, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO LEAVE.

OKAY. LET'S BE PROFESSIONAL, OKAY? I'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT.

THANK YOU. SO IT MAY SIMPLY NOT WORK, YOU KNOW, WITH LESS DENSITY.

AND THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW? THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.

YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA WE GOTTA ENGAGE IN ECONOMIC REALITY.

AND EVERY BIT OF DELAY IS ECONOMIC HARM. I'VE INVESTORS I'VE LENDERS, I HAVE TO.

YOU KNOW I DO. I MEAN, I JUST I CAN'T HANDLE ANOTHER DELAY.

WE'VE BEEN DELAYED WAY TOO LONG. SO I BEG YOU, I BEG YOU TO PLEASE VOTE ON US NOW.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION.

BECAUSE YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR SOMETIMES IN THIS WORLD.

AND IF THE DELAY MOTION GETS APPROVED, THEN I WEIGH MORE COMMENTS.

BUT IT WOULD REALLY BE ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION, SO I DON'T WANT TO BE NOT GERMANE TO THE THE TOPIC.

THIS IS A DIFFICULT ONE. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THIS HAS BEEN THE TOUGHEST CASE ANY OF US HAVE BEEN THROUGH.

AT LEAST IN THE EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE. SO I MOVE THAT WE CALL THE QUESTION, MR. MAYOR, AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD. TWO THIRDS VOTE TO CALL.

THE QUESTION IS UNDEBATABLE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. WAS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? A SECOND. SENATE VOTE. RIGHT AND POINT OF INFORMATION.

THIS IS ON CALLING THE QUESTION ON THE ON THE DEFERRAL.

THANK YOU. NINE. NINE.

ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL. YEAH.

YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN IT? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ON THE CALL, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, WILL YOU PLEASE STATE.

YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR? NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. THIS IS FOR. CALL THE QUESTION.

YES, SIR. CALL THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION. WE'RE VOTING.

IT'S. IT'S THE CALL. IT'S THE CALL. BUT WE'RE VOTING.

WE'RE VOTING. I'M A YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

SCHULTZ. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN KNOW. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WILLIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

YES, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. YES. MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT.

OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER WEST. YES. PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. WAS THAT A CHANGE IN HIS VOTE? YES. AND IT'S STILL OPEN.

THANK YOU. IT'S ALLOWED. WITH TEN VOTING IN FAVOR, FOUR OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT.

THE CALL IS PASSED. PASSES, MR. MAYOR. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT TO THE DEFERRAL TO VOTE.

VOTE ON DEFERRAL. AND THE VOTE ON DEFERRAL. REQUEST A RECORD VOTE, PLEASE.

NOTED. THIS IS ON THE DEFERRAL. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO IF YOU OPPOSE. AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONES WHEN RESPONDING.

COUNCILMEMBER WEST. NO. COUNCILMEMBER MORENO.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER GRACEY. YES. COUNCILMEMBER ARNOLD.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER RESENDEZ. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. SCHULTZ. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIS. YES.

COUNCILMEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WILLIS. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

NO. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, WILL YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR VOTE? YES. THANK YOU. WITH

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FIVE VOTING IN FAVOR, NINE OPPOSED, ONE ABSENT.

THE DEFERRAL FAILS, MR. MAYOR. BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

YOU CAN SPEAK. THE CLEAR, THE CLEAR. THE BOARD, PLEASE.

ONE SECOND. LET ME MAKE SURE THE QUEUE IS CORRECT.

THE QUEUE GOT CLEARED WHEN I WAS THE FIRST ONE IN THERE.

I HAVE NOT SPOKEN ON THE MAIN MOTION. YES. OH I'M SORRY.

SO MY MOTION TO DEFER, WAS THAT MOTION OKAY? FAIR.

OKAY. YOUR QUEUE IS READY, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON COUNCILWOMAN THE BLACKMON.

THANK YOU. OKAY, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW WHO, I GUESS. ANDREA. GUS, MAYBE THE DEVELOPER.

THANK YOU ALL. AND AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, AND WEDNESDAYS ARE LIKE THIS, SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN.

SO, ANDREA, CAN YOU TELL ME THE AGE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT? LIKE, WHEN WAS IT DEVELOPED? HOW OLD IS IT? GIVE GIVE US SOME BACKGROUND OF WHAT WE ARE WORKING WITH REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT MATTERS. OH, THE THE AGE OF THE 1980 SHOPPING? YES. SORRY. SO YOU'LL SEE THE BACKGROUND SECTION IN THE STAFF REPORT.

WE HAVE A SHOPPING CENTER THAT WAS DEVELOPED BETWEEN 1977 AND 2001, PER OUR RECORDS WITH DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT. THERE WAS ANOTHER APPLICATION BEFORE THIS.

IT WAS WITHDREW, BUT THIS ONE WAS SUBMITTED ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2022.

SO THE CASE HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE THEN.

SO IT'S ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 40 YEARS OLD. CORRECT.

FROM THE FROM WHEN IT WAS OPENED TO NOW. WELL, BECAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS WE'RE NOW AT THE POINT WHERE IT'S PROBABLY READY FOR A REHAB. OH, THE SHOPPING CENTER, YOU MEAN? YES.

I WOULD SAY YES, SINCE 1977. AND OTHER BUILDINGS WERE ADDED INTO THE MIX.

YEAH. IT'S A IT'S TIME FOR A REFRESH OR REHAB LOOKING AT THINGS.

OKAY, SO I KNOW THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT MY PREFERENCE, AND I'LL GIVE THAT IN A BIT, BUT CAN YOU TELL ME THE MIX OF RETAIL VERSUS HOUSING WITH THE NEW AMENDMENTS THAT MISS SCHULTZ HAS MADE? SO COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ MOTION DOES PUT A CAP ON THE ENTIRE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS IN THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT OR THE ENTIRE AREA OF REQUEST, WHICH IS 15 ACRES.

AND THE CAP IS 800 AND I THINK 68 UNITS. ALSO, THE PD, THAT IS THE PROPOSED PD IS REQUIRING A MINIMUM OF 35,000FT² OF RETAIL OR PERSONAL SERVICE.

IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT 50% OF THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE FACING THE OPEN SPACE MUST BE RETAIL AND PERSONAL SERVICE JUST TO ENSURE THAT ACTIVITY.

AND NOT NECESSARILY A MIXED USE, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE 90,000FT² OF OPEN SPACE WITH PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THEY NEED TO DO THAT UP FRONT. OKAY.

BUT I BELIEVE THE FLOOR IS 752, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE THE BOTTOM AMOUNT IS 752, BUT IF THEY DO SENIORS, IT GOES TO 868. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THE BONUS I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WE ARE AT 752 UNITS.

YES. AND PHASE ONE ALSO HAS A CAP OF 300 UNITS.

LET ME CHECK MY MATH. SO BASICALLY WHAT IT SAYS.

YES. MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS FOR PHASE ONE IS 300.

AFTER OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE 300 THEY GET THE OPEN.

THEY NEED TO INSTALL THE OPEN SPACE SO IT KICKS IN.

SO ONCE THEY HIT THE 300 MAX, OPEN SPACE IS TRIGGERED.

YES. AND THEN WE HAVE THE HEIGHT MAX, I BELIEVE, AT 165.

SO WHAT? AND I GUESS. WHAT IS THAT? WHAT'S THE TALLEST STORIES THAT THEN IT COULD BE.

IS IT STILL AT 12 OR IS IT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME DOWN? I NEED TO CLARIFY THAT. SO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS ONLY FOR A PORTION, ONLY FOR A LOW PORTION OR A THIRD OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

IT THE PROPOSAL HAS INCLUDED IN IT A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THE ONE THAT HAS THE BONUS FOR THE INCREASE IN HEIGHT IS PHASE P,

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WHICH IS THE SOUTHERN WEST CORNER. PRESTON PRESS.

YES, YES, YES. IT'S NORTH OF ALEXIS. PHASE ONE, THE ONE THAT IS FACING BELTLINE IS 75FT IN HEIGHT AND THE SAME PHASE END, WHICH IS NORTH AGAIN, PRESTON WILL BELTLINE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT'S MORE TOWARDS BELTLINE IS ACTUALLY 75FT WHICH IS DIVIDED BY 15 IS NOT EVEN.

SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THE TALLER POINTS ARE ON BELTLINE? THE TALLER THE TALLEST POINTS POTENTIAL TALLEST POINTS WITH BONUS ARE GOING TO BE ON PRESTON AND CLOSER TO PRESTON.

PRESTON AND WHAT? AND THAT'S IT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT NORTH OF ALEXIS, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET TO PROXIMITY SLOPE RESIDENTIAL AND I'M LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL AND I'M JUST MAKING SURE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CASES WHERE THAT WAS AN ISSUE.

IS RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE GOING TO BE A FACTOR HERE IN, IN BECAUSE, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK SO, BUT I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT FROM THE EXPERT. I WILL MEASURE IT EYEBALLING IT.

AND I WANT THE APPLICANT TO IF THEY HAVE A BETTER MEASUREMENT, I WOULD SAY THAT THE HEIGHTS THAT ARE ENABLED OR ALLOWED WITH THIS PD ARE BELOW THE PS, OKAY AND NO AFFORDABILITY. AND I'M KIND OF OTHER THAN THE RETIREMENT AFFORDABILITY DOES IT NOT WANT.

BUT THERE'S NO AFFORDABILITY AT THIS MOMENT. NOT IN THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR.

THE MOTION CLEARLY STATES THAT THE LEAD ALL MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUSES, IF THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IS NOT AS A BONUS, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S TAKEN OFF THE TABLE.

THE BONUSES, RIGHT? YES. IN THE MOTION IS THE DEVELOPMENT BONUSES.

AND THAT'S OKAY WITH THE DEVELOPER. OKAY. I MEAN, AFFORDABILITY IS A BIG ISSUE HERE.

AND SO I THAT'S JUST A IT'S A QUESTION. MIXED INCOME IS WHERE ANYWAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. STICK AROUND NOW TO TRANSPORTATION IS PRESTON ROAD.

AYE. WHAT KIND OF ROAD IS THAT. HELLO. DOES THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS. PRESTON ROAD IS A STATE HIGHWAY.

AND HOW MANY DO I HAVE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER.

SO I'VE WORKED WITH STATE HIGHWAYS BEFORE. AND IT'S ALWAYS A TRICKY SITUATION BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY OWN THE ROADWAY, BUT WE WORK WITH A PARTNER IN MANAGING THAT ROADWAY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. SO TELL ME ABOUT WHAT THE PLANS ARE THERE.

AND THEN I WANT TO GO I'M GOING TO ASK THE DEVELOPER ABOUT KIMLEY-HORN REPORT.

BUT TELL ME WHAT IS PROPOSED THERE TO MITIGATE BECAUSE I WAS THERE ON MONDAY NIGHT TO MITIGATE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE AND I'LL GET TO THE STUDY BECAUSE THE. BUT TELL ME WHAT IS PROPOSED THERE WITH COG IN US AS A CITY AND THE DEVELOPER PUTTING SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO BETTER THAT THAT, THAT AREA. OKAY. SO I WILL KIND OF LET ME START BY SEPARATING MY STATEMENT FROM THE POLICY DECISION OF THIS COUNCIL VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AT THE CITY LEVEL.

STARTING BACK IN FOUR YEARS. FOUR YEARS AGO, WE STARTED THE THE THE PROGRAM, IF YOU WILL, TO UPGRADE OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL SYSTEMS AND THE TRANSPORTATION OPERATIONS ACROSS THE CITY, AND CERTAINLY IN THAT AREA WHILE STATE HIGHWAY 289 OR PRESTON ROAD IS, IS A STATE FACILITY.

HOWEVER, THE CITY OF DALLAS DOES MANAGE AND CONTROL ALL THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHO OWNS THE FACILITY. SO CERTAINLY THAT AREA HAS BEEN ONE OF THE KEY AREAS THAT WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON.

AND AS I MENTIONED STARTING WITH THE COUNTY PROJECTS.

MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT WE GOT SOME FUNDINGS TO IMPROVE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON THAT ROADWAY.

AND WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO TO IMPROVE THE CAPACITY AND THE TECHNOLOGY ON THOSE ROADWAYS IN THIS REGARD.

THE NORTH CENTRAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS STEPPED IN AND STARTED OR INITIATED THE CORRIDOR STUDY BETWEEN 635 AND AT LEAST IN THE CITY OF DALLAS TO THE PLANO DALLAS CITY LIMITS.

AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXAMINING WHAT OTHER OPTIONS CAN BE IMPLEMENTED TO IMPROVE THE OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND TECHNOLOGY ALONG THAT ROADWAY.

OKAY. AND SO WE'RE WORKING TO FIX THAT. NOW FOR THE DEVELOPER.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU. AND I'VE GOT 26, SO I'M GOING TO DO IT ABBREVIATED.

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SO TELL ME ABOUT KIMLEY-HORN. WHAT KIND OF FIRM ARE THEY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THEY'RE A AN INTERNATIONAL ENGINEERING FIRM.

PRETTY WELL KNOWN. VERY WELL KNOWN, YES. SO TELL ME ABOUT YOUR STUDY THAT YOU LISTED HERE? YEAH. IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST PAGE OF THE HANDOUT, YOU'LL SEE AN EXCERPT FROM THEIR ANALYSIS.

AND YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE PAGE THE ENGINEER'S STAMP.

SO THIS ENGINEER IS A LICENSED ENGINEER. HE USES HE OR ANY OTHER ENGINEER WOULD USE WHAT'S CALLED THE ITE MANUAL, WHICH LITERALLY STATES CERTAIN USES ON CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE.

THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IT GENERATES. IF THE NEIGHBORS WERE TO GENERATE CREATED THEIR OWN TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THEY WOULD HAVE GOT VERY SIMILAR RESULTS. IF I, IF I MAY ALSO MENTION THAT THIS RESULT WAS THE SECOND TIME WE RAN IT, AND WE RAN IT WHEN WE WERE ASKING FOR 1550 UNITS.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY OUTDATED BY ABOUT HALF AS MUCH AS CURRENTLY.

BUT WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT, THAT THIS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT CURRENTLY WITH I'M SORRY WITH WITH RETAIL AND RESTAURANT ENVIRONMENT COULD GENERATE UP TO 40,000 TRIPS A DAY.

IT SAYS THAT IF AT THE PEAK ON THE ON THE. I'M SORRY IF WE REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF ENTITLEMENTS FOR TRAFFIC, WE COULD SEE IT AS MUCH OF A 50% OR MORE REDUCTION IN THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC JUST MERELY BECAUSE RETAIL GENERATES A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAN RESIDENTIAL.

AND WE'RE PULLING OUT A TON OF RETAIL. IT ALSO SAYS, IF YOU'LL NOTICE, THE SECOND BULLET POINT ON THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY SAYS, BASED ON THE ANALYSIS PRESENTED IN THIS REPORT, THE PROPOSED PEPPER SQUARE REDEVELOPMENT CAN SUCCESSFULLY BE INCORPORATED INTO THE SURROUNDING ROADWAY NETWORK. SO IT'S ACTUALLY SAYING THAT ALTHOUGH IT DOES RECOMMEND SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE AGREED TO, FOR EXAMPLE, SIGNALIZATION AT BARRY TRAIL. IT ACTUALLY SAYS THE CURRENT ROADWAY NETWORK COULD HANDLE THIS BECAUSE OF THE REDUCED TRAFFIC THAT YOU GET WITH RESIDENTIAL.

OKAY. AND I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR THE OTHER PART.

BUT BUT YEAH, I'M MARRIED TO AN ARCHITECT, SO I HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME THAT RETAIL ACTUALLY IS THE WORST.

DRIVING IN RESIDENTIAL IS ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE.

AND EVERYBODY'S USUALLY WORKING FROM HOME NOW, SO.

OR 2 OR 3 DAYS A WEEK. SO I'LL COME BACK BECAUSE I'VE GOT MORE.

THANK YOU. DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE. MISS MENDELSOHN.

HOLD ON, MR. RIDLEY, AND SPEAK, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, PEPPER SQUARE IS AN AGING RETAIL SITE AND A PRIME CANDIDATE FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT FULLY ALIGN WITH FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 GOALS OF ENHANCING HOUSING CHOICE, AFFORDABILITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. REDEVELOPMENT SHOULD NOT BE DENSITY FOR DENSITY SAKE.

IT SHOULD ADD VALUE THROUGH THOUGHTFUL DESIGN.

WE MUST ALSO LOOK TO PROVIDE PROVIDE HOUSING CHOICE, INCLUDING AFFORDABLE UNITS OF HOUSING.

I AM SHOCKED THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT PROPOSING 984 UNITS, NONE OF WHICH WILL BE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE OF LOWER INCOME LEVELS. ADDITIONALLY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUPPORTS MIXED USE, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY DEVELOPMENT THAT BLENDS RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL.

THIS PROPOSAL IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AND LACKS THE CREATIVITY AND MEANINGFUL DESIGN THAT COULD MAXIMIZE THE SITE'S POTENTIAL AS A MIXED USE HUB.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE MANY EXPRESSIONS THAT WE HAVE HEARD HERE TODAY OF RESIDENTS IN THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS WHO FEEL DISENFRANCHIZED THAT THEY HAVE BEEN ROBBED OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE MEANINGFUL INPUT ON WHAT IS BEING BUILT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT I CANNOT COUNTENANCE. AND I BELIEVE THAT ALTHOUGH THIS AREA NEEDS REDEVELOPMENT, WE NEED TO REBOOT THIS.

TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. AND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF DENYING THIS REQUEST WITHOUT PREJUDICE AT THIS TIME.

CHAIRMAN MORENO. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT WE NEED TO INVEST IN THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HERE, BUT I ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO DOWN TO URBAN AIR WITH MY FAMILY AND NOTICE THAT YES, IT'S IT'S AGING, BUT IT STILL HAS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY AND A LOT TO OFFER.

I WANT TO START WITH THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION IN THE PACKAGE.

IT SPEAKS TO THE STATED VISION OF THE APPLICANT AND A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THERE.

IT SAYS MIXED INCOME. SO CAN STAFF PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WITH MIXED INCOME AS DEFINED AS.

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YES. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION STANDS THAT WE RECOMMEND THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING BONUS.

SO BUT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE MOTION. THAT ELIMINATES THAT.

SO FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW WITH EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE GET FOR A MIXED USE PROJECT THAT CONTAINS MULTIFAMILY, AS YOU KNOW, STAFF IS ALWAYS LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO ALLOW OR LOOK INTO BONUSES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH MIXED INCOME HOUSING.

AND IS THAT A REQUIREMENT? IS THAT POLICY? HELP ME UNDERSTAND.

IT'S IT'S A CASE BY CASE. THERE IS NO POLICY.

THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT. THE BONUS IS A BONUS.

BUT AS I STATED, WHENEVER WE SEE ESPECIALLY AREAS OF HIGH OPPORTUNITY, THIS ONE IS ONE IS THE MVA CATEGORY, THE MARKET VALUE AREA IS ACTUALLY SEE BECOMING AN A.

SO THIS IS AN AREA OF OPPORTUNITY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THIS IS USUALLY WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY PROPOSE A BONUS.

OKAY. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT URBAN DESIGN ELEMENTS UNDER GOALS 5.2, IT TALKS ABOUT STRENGTHENED COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITY.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YES. THIS TALK IT TALKS ABOUT ALL OF THOSE FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

I WILL THIS ONE AGAIN TOGETHER OR THE SAME AS ANY OTHER PD THAT PROPOSES MIXED INCOME.

I'M SORRY, MIXED USE. WE ADD DEVELOPMENT, WE WE ADD DESIGN STANDARDS.

THERE ARE A LOT OF DESIGN STANDARDS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PD, IT IS LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT PARKING IS BEHIND THE BUILDINGS.

SIDEWALKS ARE WIDE OPEN SPACES HONORED BY ACTIVATING USES, NOT GARAGES.

ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS ACTUALLY THAT WE WOULD PUT IN PDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY ARE IN THIS PD AS WELL.

OKAY. IN THE MOTION, IT SAYS TO STRIKE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES.

AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 165FT. WHAT DOES THAT EQUATE TO IN FLOORS 165? AS I SAID, A TYPICAL STORY HEIGHT IS AROUND 15FT.

SO I WOULD SAY THEY MAY SQUEEZE IN 11FT IF THEY TRY SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.

BUT 165 IS WITH THE BONUS, AND ONLY ON A PORTION OF THIS OF THE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO CAN YOU HELP ME OUT WITH THE MATH THERE? IF IT'S 11FT PER FLOOR, I LEFT, I LEFT, I LEFT ALL MY IF IT'S 11FT PER FLOOR. WELL, SHE SAID YOU CAN SQUEEZE IN 11, 11 STORIES.

STORIES, PROBABLY. THEY CAN SQUEEZE IN 11 STORIES.

JUST A SECOND. LET ME TRY. 165. YES. 165 DIVIDED BY 15, WHICH IS NORMAL, I WOULD SAY IS IT GETS US TO 11 STORIES.

IT DEPENDS ON THEIR DESIGN, BUT THAT'S AN ESTIMATE.

WE STAFF, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU NEED AN ADVICE IT'S WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH TAKING OUT A MAXIMUM CAP OF NUMBER OF STORES BECAUSE THERE IS HEIGHT IN FEET, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE.

OKAY. THE APPLICANT GAVE US A PACKAGE HERE. CHANGE TO REQUEST AND REDUCTION OF THE ZONING AREA. REDUCTION TO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY.

REDUCTION TO THE HEIGHT. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT CURRENTLY, WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHT AND TO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY? THERE IS NO MAXIMUM DENSITY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE MULTIFAMILY IS NOT AN ALLOWED USE.

THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS ZONED CR, WHICH IS A COMMUNITY RETAIL.

COMMUNITY RETAIL ALLOWS FOR INSTANCE, A RESTAURANT TO THE DRIVE THROUGH.

IT ALLOWS A BUNCH OF RETAIL TYPE OF USES. AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, PAGE 13 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU WILL SEE CR ALLOWS 54FT IN HEIGHT.

LOT COVERAGE IS 60%, FRONT YARD IS 15 SIDE REAR 20 AND AN FA OF 0.5 PER OFFICE AND 0.75 FOR USES COMBINED. SO WHEN IT STATES REDUCTION IN HEIGHT, THAT'S TRULY NOT A REDUCTION IN HEIGHT OF ON WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED TODAY. WHEN I STATED REDUCTION IN HEIGHT, DID I SAY REDUCTION IN HEIGHT WITH THE THE APPLICANT PRESENTED THIS TO US? OH, I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT WHAT THE INTENT OF THEIR STATEMENT IS.

BUT YES. WHEN WE LOOK AT ZONING CASES, WE LOOK AT WHAT IS ENTITLED TODAY, AND THEN WE ANALYZE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST AND MOST

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APPROPRIATE USE AT THAT LOCATION. SO WHAT IS THE ALLOWED HEIGHT TODAY? AS I SAID, 54. 54FT. PERFECT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN. GRACEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK I HEARD THIS. THE MIXED INCOME WAS THAT THAT IT'S NO LONGER INCLUDED IN THIS.

CORRECT? SO THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS.

SO THE BONUS IN IN YOUR MOTION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS NOT AVAILABLE.

IT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT, BUT THAT'S A BONUS. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.

OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN, MR. MAYOR, MAY I ASK MY COLLEAGUE? WHY, YES. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR ASKING ME. THANK YOU FOR ASKING ME WHY.

THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE AS PART OF THE DESIRE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO REDUCE THE INTENSITY OF THE DENSITY, I TOOK OUT THE BONUSES BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THE DEVELOPER WAS NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT MIXED INCOME HOUSING.

THEY WERE GOING TO USE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO BUY.

I FORGOT WHAT IT'S CALLED THE WHAT THE FEE IN LIEU.

AND SO RATHER THAN HAVING A FEE IN LIEU AND MORE DENSITY, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO KEEP THE NUMBER SECURE AND ONLY HAVE A RETIREMENT HOUSING, WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED IN THE AREA. AND THAT WAS PART OF IN WORKING WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

CHAIRMAN ARNOLD. I MEAN, CHAIR MENDELSOHN. KNOW IS THIS.

CAN YOU CLARIFY HOW MANY MINUTES I HAVE, PLEASE? THREE THREE MINUTES. THIS IS YOUR SECOND ROUND.

THANK YOU. I COULD START MY COMMENTS WITH THE SPECIFICS OF THIS PLAN.

AND WHY PEPPER SQUARE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF PRESTON AND BELTLINE SHOULD NOT BE REZONED? HOW? THE PROJECT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE 2300 RESIDENTIAL UNITS APPROVED TO BE BUILT AT PRESTON DEL NORTE, ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION, OR THE 595 RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR THE TONTI PROPERTIES EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED NEXT YEAR, OR THE MASSIVE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS OFF OF SPRING VALLEY, AND POSSIBLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE OLD VALLEY VIEW INTO THOUSANDS OF ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNITS. THIS IS AN OVERSATURATION OF A RENTAL AREA.

ROADS IN THE AREA ARE ALREADY MAXED OUT, WITH BELTLINE AND PRESTON NOTED AS ONE OF THE BUSIEST INTERSECTIONS IN DALLAS AND PART OF THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK.

THE HEIGHT OF THE PROJECT DOES NOT FIT THE AREA.

THERE ARE NO TOWERS ON THE EAST SIDE OF PRESTON AND IT WILL REMOVE THE PRIVACY OF NEARBY RESIDENTS.

165FT IS FRANKLY ABSURD, BUT THE REASON WHY THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EASY AND SIMPLE VOTE IS SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO BE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DALLAS RESIDENTS AND TO LISTEN TO THEM.

I CAN'T RECALL A ZONING CASE WITH THIS MUCH OPPOSITION, AND THEY HAVE SAID THIS BY SHOWING UP AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

THEY'VE SAID THIS, SHOWING UP AT CPC MEETINGS.

THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA EXTENSIVELY, EMAILS, BANNERS ON THE HOA PROPERTY AND EVEN A LAWSUIT.

AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT OUR NEED TO ENGAGE AND REACH OUT TO RESIDENTS, SHARE INFORMATION WITH THEM, GET INPUT FROM THEM. AND IN THIS CASE, WE'VE GIVEN THEM ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND THEY'VE SAID LOUDLY, NO AND HELL NO. SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WE'RE GOING TO ESPOUSE THIS ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

WE JUST SPENT $1 MILLION ON BRANDING AND REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO IGNORE THEM.

IT'S OUTRAGEOUS. THE REAL QUESTION IS, IF WE TRUST OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR OPINIONS MORE THAN OUR OWN WISHES, I'M GOING TO SAY COUNCIL MEMBER. YOU'VE BEEN ASKING ABOUT THE HAMPTON PROPERTY FOR US, PLEADING WITH US TO LISTEN TO RESIDENTS, PLEADING WITH US TO NOT DO OUR OWN WISHES, BUT TO DO WHAT THEY ARE ASKING OF US.

AND I'LL SAY THE SAME THING TO YOU. SO I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY SIMPLE QUESTION.

AND IT'S DO YOU LISTEN TO RESIDENTS AS WE SAID WE WOULD IN FORWARD DALLAS WE SAID, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TALK TO US.

WELL, THEY HAVE AND THEY'VE SAID IT VERY LOUDLY AND VERY COMPELLINGLY.

THIS IS NOT A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW THE FACTS.

THEY DO KNOW THE FACTS AND WE OUGHT TO LISTEN TO THEM.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, AS SOMEBODY WHO GREW UP IN THIS AREA, THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT FIT FAR NORTH DALLAS.

AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING, YOU KNOW WHAT?

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WE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF LAND IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, AND THEY ARE BEGGING US FOR THIS EXACT KIND OF HIGH QUALITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.

SO LET'S DO IT THERE. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD, THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I SIMPLY WANT TO SAY THIS. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND FIGHTING FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT WHEN A CITY REPRESENTS ITS INTENTION TO SUPPORT A DEVELOPER WHO DEVELOPS A SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY, THAT WE WE RESPOND. FOLKS RESPOND. HOMEOWNERS RESPOND WHEN THEY BUY THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR VISION, THEIR THOUGHTS IS THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE. AND SO I THANK YOU FOR FOR SHOWING UP.

I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT.

I HAD HOPED THAT AFTER THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK IT OUT, AND I HOPE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.

BUT WHAT I DO KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT I'M LISTENING.

AND AS I SAID, YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD.

I ENJOYED MY VISIT THERE. I AM CONTINUE TO BE LIKE THIS THE TRANSPORTATION, THE CHILDREN, JUST THE PEACE AND QUIET OF THE COMMUNITY. I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH IT, BUT I'M MORE IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT YOU'RE FIGHTING AND SHOWING UP TO THE DEVELOPER.

HATS OFF TO YOU FOR AT LEAST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER.

I DID GET A CHANCE TO ALSO TO VISIT TRADER JOE'S.

I, WE WE HAD AN EXTENSIVE DAY THAT DAY. SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT MY BOOTS WERE ON THE GROUND.

SO I'M NOT SITTING HERE JUST TRYING TO HEAR MYSELF TALK.

BUT I CAN SAY THIS WITH THE ATTACK OF WHAT I SEE AS ON SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITIES.

YOU HAVE TO STAY WOKE. THE NEW VOICES THAT FOLKS ARE SAYING THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR.

NOW, WHEN YOU SIGNED OFF ON THE TERM LIMITS, YOU SAID YOU WANTED NEW AND FRESH VOICES.

SO YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS YOU REALLY WANT.

SO I'M SAYING THIS IN CLOSING. STAY WOKE, STAY ENGAGED.

YOU HAVE TO PROTECT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S THE SAME THING I'M SAYING TO THE RESIDENTS I REPRESENT IN DISTRICT FOUR, IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. MRS. AARON GRACEY, I KNOW YOU'RE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL.

WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE AGENDAS THAT MOVE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, SOMETIMES WE NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME LOOKING AT IT AND SEE WHO'S BRINGING THE MESSAGE AND WHAT'S PUSHING THEM TO BRING CERTAIN MESSAGES.

MY MESSAGE WILL ALWAYS BE GENERATED BY PEOPLE I KNOW WHO SENT ME HERE.

I KNOW WHO I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO. I KNOW WHO I FREQUENT DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES WITH, BUT MOST OF ALL, IF WE ARE NOT HERE FOR THE PEOPLE, WE ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE, BUT RESPECTIVE ALSO, AS I SAID OF THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE BUSINESSES WE NEED. AND YOU KNOW, MR. KLEINMAN, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOU.

BUT ON THIS CASE, AS I'VE STATED, I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF THE ABILITY, COMMITMENT TO WORK OUT WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HERE ALL DAY LONG AND WHO HAVE BEEN ENGAGED FOR MONTHS TO WORK IT OUT SO THEIR CHILDREN WILL BE PROUD OF THEM AS THEY MOVE FORWARD.

AS MODELING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD THEY GREW UP IN, WALKED TO SCHOOL, WALKED TO SCHOOL THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN IF I CAN'T PRONOUNCE THE NAME OF THE TRAIL.

BUT I'M TELLING YOU, I ENJOYED IT AND THERE IS NOTHING ELSE BEHIND WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU OTHER THAN THE FACT I ENJOYED EVERY BIT OF MY VISIT.

BUT YOU HAVE TO STAY WOKE AND COMMITTED TO SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT IS WHAT I'M ABOUT.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING AND JUST KEEP ON KEEPING ON.

AND AS THEY SAY, THEY MAY GET MAD, BUT YOU DON'T YOU.

KEEP ON STEPPING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN.

BLACKMON. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANDREA. CAN YOU GIVE WITH THE NEW AMENDMENT THAT WE HAVE, WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION OF WHAT THE DIFFERENT UNITS ARE IN THIS AREA AND THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS.

CAN CAN YOU DO A QUICK ADDING OF WHAT THOSE ARE? OR I CAN ASK THE DEVELOPER ANOTHER QUESTION WHILE YOU ADD IT UP.

YES. I LOOKED A LITTLE BIT OF THE ONE THAT'S DIAGONALLY ACROSS.

I WILL ALSO MAKE A COMMENT THAT WHEN WE DID THE REZONING FOR THE ONE DIAGONALLY ACROSS, WE DISCOVERED THAT THE AREA IS ENTITLED FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY THAN IT IS BUILT. BUT THE NORTH, WHICH IS SORRY FOR REFERRING TO YOU TO TO IT WITH THE COMMERCIAL NAME DIAGONALLY ACROSS THAT HAS A MINIMUM OF. THERE ARE TWO PDS IN THERE THEIR COMBINED A MINIMUM OF 750 UNITS.

BECAUSE THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WILL HAVE AT LEAST AS MANY UNITS THERE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THOSE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY.

AND THEN A BASE OF ONE OF THEM HAS 70 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

THE OTHER ONE HAS 50. TOGETHER COMBINED, IF THEY ARE TO MAX OUT, THEY WOULD BE AROUND 2000 UNITS.

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SO IS THAT 27, 50 OR 2000? NO, IT'S NOT 27. I THINK IT'S IT MAY BE LIKE BY MY VERY ROUGH MATH, IT MAY BE 21 OR 20. SO 21 IS IN THAT FAR NORTH, THAT NORTH WEST CORNER.

OKAY. AND THEN WE COME DOWN TO THE 20 DEVELOPMENT.

WELL THAT'S A THAT'S A BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENT IN AN MF2.

IF THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING BONUSES.

THEY CAN HAVE PROBABLY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED OF UNITS, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO THE MATH ON THAT.

SO JUST SAY ABOUT 300. I MEAN, ANYWAY. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE AREA.

AND THEN NOW THESE ARE AT THE FLOOR IS 780. IS THAT CORRECT? 752. SORRY. THAT'S THE FLOOR. THE THE BASE. OKAY.

THE BASE. OKAY. HEY, LEE, CAN YOU ANSWER A QUESTION ABOUT THE HOBBY LOBBY AND THE TRADER JOE'S? WHY WAS THAT STRIP TAKEN OUT? BECAUSE IT'S LOOKING LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS STRIP RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. ORIGINALLY THAT WAS IN THE PROPOSAL.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAID THEY WANTED TO PRESERVE RETAIL. THEY WANTED TO PRESERVE SURFACE PARKING, AND THEY WANTED TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

SO BY REMOVING THAT EIGHT ACRES OUT OF IT, WE ALSO REMOVED APPROXIMATELY 700, I'M SORRY, 800 UNITS OUT OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL AND AND PRESERVING THE RETAIL THAT THEY LITERALLY ASKED US TO PRESERVE THAT BIG BOX RETAIL THERE.

OKAY. SO IS THAT THAT'S GOING TO THAT WILL STAY THAT WILL STAY.

THOSE BOTH NOT RELEASED OUT NOW IS THERE GOING TO BE A MOVEMENT LOBBY AND HOBBY LOBBY ARE BOTH LEASED OUT AND THEY HAVE LONG TERM LEASES AND THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO KEEP THEM THERE. THEY'RE GREAT TENANTS OKAY. AND AND JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'LL READDRESS THIS IF WE NEED TO IN THE NEXT GENERATION.

OKAY. SO BUT THERE IS SOME ALONG, I GUESS THAT NORTHERN PART OF THAT OF THE STRIP THAT'S NOT LEASED OUT.

IS THERE GOING TO BE A PLAN TO GET THAT ACTIVATED.

RIGHT. SO THE WITHIN THE AREA OF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A, A DEPARTMENT STORE CALLED STEIN MART.

STEIN MART WENT OUT OF BUSINESS NATIONWIDE ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.

AND THAT SPACE HAS REMAINED VACANT FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

AND IT WAS KIND OF THAT THAT INITIATED THE LOOK AT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO HERE THAT'S REALLY A PUBLIC LAND USE.

OKAY, SO THERE'S NOTHING RIGHT NOW ON PAPER TO DO ANYTHING ON THIS STRIP, BUT IT COULD COME.

IT COULD IN THE STEIN MART SPACE. NO, NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE HOBBY LOBBY AND THE TRADER JOE'S THAT COULD EVOLVE.

NOT. NOT NOW THIS, BUT IN 20 YEARS OR WHENEVER DOWN THE ROAD.

OKAY. RIGHT. I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT DOWN HERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW IT'S GOING TO BE SANDWICHED IN.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO LOOK KIND OF WONKY.

I WOULDN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT THIS IS THIS IS ONE OF THE COMPROMISES WE MADE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY. SO BACK TO THE OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANDREA, BACK TO THE PROXIMITY SLOPE. DID YOU EVER, I MEAN, OKAY.

YES, IT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT, I APOLOGIZE, I SHOULD READ MY STAFF REPORT.

SECOND STAFF REPORT. IT IS IT DOES SAY WE WE DID A A GENERAL CALCULATION.

I'M SORRY FOR FLIPPING PAGES. SO PAGE 15, IT SAYS THAT AT BASICALLY THE, THE, THE, THE BORDER OF THE PROPOSAL, THE PPS WILL ENABLE A 175FT, WHICH IS AGAIN WAY MORE THAN, THAN WHAT'S PROPOSED.

YES. THE HEIGHT IN THE. SO YOU'RE WITHIN THAT THAT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE.

YES. BECAUSE ALSO KEEP IN MIND LIKE BELTLINE IS IS PRETTY WIDE.

IT'S ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. IT'S, IT'S A 100 AND IT'S A 100 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

SO IN IN ORDER TO HIT THE PPS, YOU HAVE TO DIVIDE THE DISTANCE BY THREE.

SO BELTLINE IS A IS A IS A PRETTY WIDE THOROUGHFARE.

OKAY. AND I HAVE ONE MORE CLARIFYING QUESTION.

I MEAN I'M LOOKING AT THE STAFF REPORT AND THERE'S LIKE A LOT OF VOTES THAT HAPPENED AT CPAC.

I MEAN, HOW MANY VOTES HAPPENED? AND IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THEM WERE PRETTY MAJORITY.

I'M JUST. YES. AND AND I CAN EXPLAIN BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

SO THERE ARE A FEW CONDOMINIUMS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY FOR ONE OF THEM.

THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY TRIGGERED A BIG NUMBER OF VOTES.

WE HAD ONE PERSON THAT DECLARED THAT THEY ARE THE GOVERNING BODY.

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SO THEREFORE, WHEN THE GOVERNING BODY OF A OF A CONDOMINIUM VOTES IN OPPOSITION, IT AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERS EVERYBODY.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CPC LIKE THERE WAS ONE ON FEBRUARY 6TH.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEM WERE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? AND SO IT TRIGGERS A DIFFERENT THING AT CPC. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE OPPOSITION.

OKAY. I WAS I WAS I'M JUST LOOKING IN MY MIND.

I MEAN, SOMEWHERE ELSE. THERE WAS UNANIMOUS VOTES. A COUPLE OF TIMES I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT. OH, YOU WANT YOU WANT THE CPC VOTE? YES. IT IS IN THE CPC MINUTES.

JUST A SECOND. DO YOU WANT THE LATEST VOTE? JUST GIVE ME THE CLIFFSNOTES VERSION. LIKE WHERE? ALL THESE VOTES ON THE SAME DAY.

I KNOW, NO, THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE ON DIFFERENT DAYS. AND WHY SO MANY? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TO CPC A LOT OF TIMES. I THINK NINE TIMES.

SO THE FEBRUARY 6TH VOTE WAS 11 TO 0. WE HAD FOUR ABSENCES.

OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I GOT 15 SECONDS.

WHY SO MANY? BUT YOU CAN TALK TO ME OFFLINE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT 11 SECONDS OFF.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE. IF THERE'S ANY TIME CONSTRAINTS HERE, MAYBE THIS IS FOR THE DEVELOPER.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

AND SO JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THERE'S NO TIME CONSTRAINT FOR CLOSING ON THE PROPERTY OR TO CONVEY THE PROPERTY TO A DIFFERENT OWNER. IS THAT YOU? YOU WERE RIGHT.

THIS IS FOR THE THE APPLICANT. WE DON'T LOOK AT THAT.

SO IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT THE QUESTION, I CAN ASK THEM TO COME AND ANSWER.

SURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO.

THE APPLICANT HAS OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR FOR A GENERATION AND INTENDS TO OWN IT IN THE FUTURE GENERATIONS.

NO, THERE IS NOT A A TIME CONSTRAINT THAT WOULD REQUIRE CLOSING.

NEVERTHELESS THEY THEIR LEASING DEPARTMENT IS REALLY EAGER TO START LEASING THIS PROPERTY BACK UP, ESPECIALLY THAT STEINBACH SPACE WHERE THEY COULD PUT IN BY.

RIGHT, YOU KNOW, A LATE NIGHT CLUB YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF USES THAT PROBABLY AREN'T AS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, SO WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY HAVE KIND OF HELD OFF.

JUST JUST LEASING TO ANY COMER ANY PERSON THAT WANTS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BECAUSE OF INITIALLY COVID, AMAZON AND ALSO THE FREEZE AFFECTED THIS SPACE.

SO THEY'RE REALLY PREPARED TO REVITALIZE THIS AS OPPOSED TO JUST CONTINUE DOING WHAT'S GONE ON THERE FOR YEARS.

ONE MORE QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND. IN THE THE FIRST, THE AREA THEY HOPE TO BE ABLE TO GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION FIRST.

WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE LEAFLETS LOOK LIKE? ARE THERE A MONTH TO MONTH OR ARE THEY YEAR LONG LEASES IN THE AREA THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED? YEAH, I WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY ASK THEM. OKAY, GUYS.

THANK YOU. YES. PART OF PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE 40 WE HAVE OVER 40 TENANTS.

RIGHT. SO IT'S LIKE A LITTLE BIT LIKE A JIGSAW PUZZLE.

AND THAT'S PART OF PART OF THE REASON WE'RE PHASING IT. SO WE CAN START WITH PHASE ONE.

AND WE HAVE TO. AND THAT'S, THAT'S A STEIN MART SIDE OF THE CENTER WHICH IS EMPTY.

AND THERE'S A BUILDING THAT'S HAS A HANDFUL OF TENANTS.

AND WE'VE NEGOTIATED BUYOUT RIGHTS WITH THEM.

AND AND SOME ARE MONTH TO MONTH. AND SO YEAH, SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF EASY, THAT FIRST PHASE.

IT SHOULD BE EASY TO EXECUTE. BUT AGAIN, PART OF THE PART OF THE EXPENSE, THE ENORMOUS EXPENSE OF THIS IS THE RELOCATION AND BUYOUT.

ALL ALL THE OTHER TENANTS. RIGHT. ONCE WE GET TO THE SECOND PHASE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON BUYING THESE TENANTS OUT OR RELOCATING THEM. AND SO IT'S A HUGE EXPENSE. AND AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON FOR THE NEED FOR THE DENSITY TO JUST IF YOU WERE ALLOWED FOR THOSE LEASES TO EXPIRE RATHER THAN BUYING THEM OUT, WOULD THAT NOT BE A BENEFIT? WELL, WE'D HAVE TO WAIT A LONG TIME. THERE'S THERE'S VARIOUS LEASE TERMS. I MEAN, SOME HAVE OPTIONS THAT GO OUT YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

SO IN SOME CASES, AND AGAIN, PART OF THE REASON WE'VE HAD THE CHALLENGE OF OPERATING THIS PROPERTY UNDER THE, UNDER THE, UNDER THIS ZONING EFFORT IS THAT EVERY NEW LEASE WE MAKE, WE HAVE TO WE NEED TO INCLUDE A BUYOUT RIDE OR A RELOCATION RIDE OR MAKE IT A SHORT TERM

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LEASE, AND NOBODY WANTS TO DO THAT. SO IT'S BEEN A REAL CHALLENGE FOR US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, I COULD GO THROUGH THE DETAILS ABOUT THE CASE REPORT AND HOW THIS, IN MY OPINION, DOESN'T MEET SOME OF OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF TALKING AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

WE'VE NOT DONE A LOT OF LISTENING TO THOSE THAT ARE IN THE HORSESHOE.

I WON'T BE AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT. I DON'T LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR YOU GUYS.

AND I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LISTEN TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

AND SO THEREFORE, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ZONING RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A STAFF QUESTION. NO, YOU'RE STARTING MY TIME.

OKAY. CAN YOU REPEAT THE RESPONSES FROM THE NOTIFICATION ZONE? YES. SO. AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO CONTINUE THAT THOUGHT.

YEAH. WE RECEIVED THE 107 REPLIES IN OPPOSITION, AND THE NUMBER IS THIS HIGH BECAUSE THERE ARE FEW CONDOMINIUM PROPERTIES AROUND IT.

AND FOR ONE OF THEM, ONE OF THE REPLY FORMS THE PERSON SIGNED IT STATED THAT HE REPRESENTS THE GOVERNING BODY AND THAT AUTOMATICALLY BRINGS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT THEY ARE ONLY FOR ONE PROPERTY, SO THE ACTUAL OPPOSITION IS 4%.

IS ONLY ONE ONE OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BUFFER, BUT IS IN WITHIN THAT CONDOMINIUM.

THERE ARE 95 PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE BROUGHT IN WITH ONE VOTE.

YEAH, WELL, THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL OWNERS. AND IF YOU COULD JUST CLARIFY THIS, IF A DEVELOPER WANTS A CHANGE IN THEIR ZONING, ARE WE OBLIGATED TO GIVE THEM GRANT THEM THAT CHANGE? NO. ALL THE REZONING AS WE KNOW, IS DISCRETIONARY, SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL.

AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE DEVELOPER, THE OWNER, HAS SAID TWO THINGS THAT ARE COMPLETELY WRONG.

THE STEIN MART IS NOT VACANT. IN FACT, YOU CAN GO VISIT THE TITANIC EXHIBIT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A SORT OF FITTING NAME FOR IT.

THE HALLOWEEN STORE IS REGULARLY THERE. AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU, I'M VERY SHOCKED THAT THEY WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A LATE NIGHT CLUB, WHICH, AGAIN, WOULD NEED AN SUV, CORRECT. THAT WE WOULD ALL HAVE TO VOTE ON.

YES. IF IT'S COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE. YES.

YEAH. SO BUT AGAIN, I THINK YOU CAN SEE THE WAY THE NEGOTIATION HAS BEEN.

IT'S BEEN THREATS OF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS EVEN WORSE FOR YOU.

AND THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE COALITION, JUST AS WE WOULD FOR THE OAK LAWN COMMITTEE, SIT DOWN AND DO A REAL NEGOTIATION SO WE CAN GET A PROJECT.

YOUR TIME IS UP. OKAY. SO THEN WHAT ELSE? WE GOT A MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I MOVED FOR RECORD VOTE.

COME ON. TOO LATE. EVER STARTED IN THE POLLS? OPPOSED? NO. AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU. CARA. OKAY, WELL, YOUR NEXT ITEM IS ONE.

SO HOW NOW? NOW YOU'VE JUST ELECTED A. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. MAYOR, CAN WE HAVE THE OUTBURST? STOP, PLEASE. ARE YOU READY? BILLY. LET'S GO.

CAN WE GET A LITTLE QUIET, PLEASE, AS YOU'RE GOING OUT? PAGE ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 51, A DIVISION 51, A-7.1000 OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE TO CREATE THE 23 SPRING SUBDISTRICT WITHIN THE UPTOWN. CAN WE. CAN WE HAVE SOME QUIET, PLEASE? EXCUSE ME. CAN WE HAVE SOME QUIET WHILE YOU'RE GOING OUT, PLEASE? THANK YOU. OKAY, I'LL REREAD IT. PAGE ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO.

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HOW DO I GET BACK OUT THERE WHEN I OH, NO. I'LL MEET YOU THERE. OKAY. MADAM SECRETARY, ARE YOU READY? YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR. FX ONE FX ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AN ORDINANCE

[PH1. 25-952A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Chapter 51A, Division 51A-7.1000 of the Dallas Development Code to create the 23 Spring Subdistrict within the Uptown Special Provision Sign District, on property zoned Planned Development District 193 Subdistrict 146, on the southwest corner of Cedar Springs Road, at Maple Avenue, and along Bookhout Street Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval SPSD234-004(OA)]

GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 51, A DIVISION 50 1-7.1000 OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE TO CREATE THE 23 SPRING SUBDISTRICT WITHIN THE UPTOWN SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT.

ON PROPERTY. ZONED. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 193 SUBDISTRICT 146 ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CEDAR SPRINGS ROAD AT MAPLE AVENUE AND ALONG BOOKOUT LOOKOUT STREET.

ARE THERE ANY? THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE ONE INDIVIDUAL.

YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

MY NAME IS CHRIS BAUER. I'M THE MANAGING PRINCIPAL OF FOCUS EGD.

WE HOPE TO WRITE THIS DOCUMENT, AND I REPRESENT GRANITE PROPERTIES HERE TONIGHT.

FRANKLY, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON PAGE ONE? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. ON PAGE ONE, I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF CPC FOR APPROVAL.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? OKAY, WE'VE GOT A MOTION.

AND SECOND. ANY QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES. CARRIES. NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY, PAGE TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS AND TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A

[PH2. 25-953A A public hearing to receive comments and to approve an ordinance granting a request to change the name of West Ledbetter Extension (West Ledbetter Ext.) between South Merrifield Road and Spur 408 to “Grady Niblo Road” - NC234-006 - Financing - No cost consideration to the City]

REQUEST TO CHANGE THE NAME OF WEST LEDBETTER EXTENSION BETWEEN SOUTH MERRIFIELD ROAD AND SPUR EIGHT TO GRADY NIBLO ROAD.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM TWO. NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOVE. APPROVAL. SECOND. IN A COMMENT? NO COMMENT.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY.

NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY, PAGE THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE FY 20

[PH3. 25-850A A public hearing to receive comments on the FY 2025-26 Operating, Capital, and Grant & Trust Budgets - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

2526 OPERATING CAPITAL AND GRANT AND TRUST BUDGETS.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR, I DON'T BELIEVE IT NEEDS A MOTION TO.

YOU DON'T NEED ONE. LET ME DOUBLE CHECK, MR. MAYOR.

WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ON. OKAY. THANK YOU.

IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A MOTION TO TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. ITEM? YES. ITEM FOUR.

[PH4. 25-912A A public hearing to receive comments on the proposed City of Dallas FY 2024-25 Urban Land Bank Demonstration Program Plan, and, upon the close of the public hearing, approval of the City of Dallas FY 2024-25 Urban Land Bank Demonstration Program Plan in accordance with Chapter 379C of the Texas Local Government Code - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED CITY OF DALLAS.

FY 20 2425 URBAN LAND BANK DEMONSTRATION PROGRAM PLAN.

AND UPON THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING APPROVAL OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

FY 20 2425 URBAN LAND BANK DEMONSTRATION PROGRAM PLAN.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CHAPTER, IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 379C OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM FOUR. NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT ONE A SECOND.

OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY COMMENT? GOT A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY.

[PH5. 25-303A A public hearing to receive comments on an ordinance amending 72 franchises for solid waste collection and hauling, pursuant to Chapter XIV of the Dallas City Charter, and Chapter 18, Article IV, of the Dallas City Code; and, at the close of the public hearing, consideration of an ordinance amending the aforementioned franchises to (1) modify the solid waste collection franchise fee; and (2) provide an effective date (list attached to the Agenda Information Sheet) - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information)]

ITEM FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING 72 FRANCHISES FOR SOLID WASTE COLLECTION AND HAULING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 16 OF THE DALLAS CITY CHARTER.

IN CHAPTER 18, ARTICLE FOUR OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE, AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE AFOREMENTIONED FRANCHISES TO ONE MODIFY THE SOLID WASTE COLLECTION FRANCHISE FEE AND TWO PROVIDE

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PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR..

MAYOR. MR.. I'M SORRY. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? AS THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS, THEREFORE THERE ARE NO ITEMS, NO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND. SECOND.

OKAY. IN IN THE COMMENT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THE FOLLOWING TWO ITEMS. ITEM SIX AND SEVEN. THE.

[PH6. 25-954A A public hearing to receive comments on a proposed municipal setting designation to prohibit the use of groundwater as potable water beneath property owned by the City of Dallas located near the intersection of Mexicana Road and Canada Drive; and an ordinance authorizing support of the issuance of a municipal setting designation to the City of Dallas by the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality and prohibiting the use of groundwater beneath the designated property as potable water -Financing: No cost consideration to the City Recommendation of Staff: Approval]

THIS FOLLOWING STATEMENT APPLIES TO BOTH ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN.

BOTH ARE MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION 50 1A-6.108G.

THREE OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE APPLICANT OR LICENSED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH THE APPLICATION MUST BE PRESENT AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. ITEM SIX IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON A PROPOSED MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF GROUNDWATER AS POTABLE WATER BENEATH. BENEATH. PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.

LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF MEXICANO ROAD AND CANADA DRIVE.

AND AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING SUPPORT OF THE ISSUANCE OF MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION TO THE CITY OF DALLAS BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND PROHIBITING THE USE OF GROUNDWATER BENEATH THE DESIGNATED PROPERTY AS POTABLE WATER.

YOU DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

I WOULD ASK, IS THAT INDIVIDUAL THE APPLICANT OR OR THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT? CAROLYN MAY. YES. CAROLYN MAY. I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, YOU KNOW.

COMMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM SIX. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO I HAVE A SECOND? GOT A MOTION A SECOND? ANY COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYES. THE NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, ITEM SEVEN IS ALSO A MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION.

[PH7. 25-955A A public hearing to receive comments on a proposed municipal setting designation to prohibit the use of groundwater as potable water beneath property owned by 2401 McKinney, LLC and Murphy Plaza, LLC located near the intersection of McKinney and Maple Avenues and adjacent street rights-of-way; and an ordinance authorizing support of the issuance of a municipal setting designation to 2401 McKinney, LLC; Murphy Plaza, LLC; and McKinney and Maple Venture, LLC by the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality and prohibiting the use of groundwater beneath the designated property as potable water - Financing: No cost consideration to the City Recommendation of Staff: Approval]

ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON A PROPOSED MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF GROUNDWATER AS POTABLE WATER BENEATH PROPERTY OWNED BY TWO 401 MCKINNEY, LLC AND MURPHY PLAZA, LLC, LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF MCKINNEY AND MAPLE AVENUES AND ADJACENT STREETS.

RIGHTS OF WAY. IN AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING SUPPORT OF THE ISSUANCE OF A MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION TO TWO 401 MCKINNEY, LLC, MURPHY PLAZA, LLC, AND MCKINNEY AND MAPLE VENTURE, LLC BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND PROHIBITING THE USE OF GROUNDWATER BENEATH THE THE DESIGNATED PROPERTY AS POTABLE WATER.

YOU DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, IS THE INDIVIDUAL THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS ITEM? GARRETT HAAS. I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? NO, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM SEVEN. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOVE. APPROVAL. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMENT? NO COMMENT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY.

ITEM EIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED USE OF A PORTION OF

[PH8. 25-905A A public hearing, pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code, to receive comments on the proposed use of a portion of parkland at L.B. Houston Nature Area, located at 2112 and 2116 Sandy Lane, totaling approximately 7,803 square feet of land (0.18 acres), by Dallas Water Utilities for a public wastewater utility project for the public benefit; and, at the close of the public hearing, consideration of a resolution authorizing the proposed use of parkland pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

PARK PARKLAND AT L.B. HOUSTON NATURE AREA LOCATED AT 2112 AND 2116 SANDY LANE, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 7803FT² OF LAND BY DALLAS WATER UTILITIES FOR THE PUBLIC WASTEWATER UTILITY PROJECT FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT.

AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PROPOSED USE OF PARKLAND PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM EIGHT. NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY. ITEM NINE IS A PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE TO RECEIVE

[PH9. 25-906A A public hearing, pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code, to receive comments on the proposed use of a portion of parkland at West Trinity Heights Park, located at 1900 Harlandale Avenue, totaling approximately 24,204 square feet of land (0.56 acres), by Dallas Water Utilities Department for a public drainage project for the public benefit; and, at the close of the public hearing, consideration of a resolution authorizing the proposed use of parkland pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code - Estimated Revenue: Capital Gifts, Donation and Development Fund $12,100.00]

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COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED USE OF A PORTION OF PARKLAND AT WEST TRINITY HEIGHTS PARK, LOCATED AT 1900 HARLANDALE AVENUE, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 24,204FT² OF LAND, BY DALLAS WATER UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR A PUBLIC DRAINAGE PROJECT FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT. AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PROPOSED USE OF THE PARKLAND PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM NINE. NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

NEXT ITEM. MADAM SECRETARY. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR VOTING AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.

[OPEN MICROPHONE (Part 2 of 2)]

WE DO HAVE OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS REMAINING.

WELL. LET'S BEGIN. I'LL GO AHEAD AND RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

Y'ALL DON'T LEAVE ME HERE NOW. GO AHEAD, MADAM SECRETARY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM, AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL AND PERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.