* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY. [Community Police Oversight Board on April 8, 2025.] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. MY NAME IS JOHN MARK DAVIDSON. I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, AND WE HAVE A CONFIRMED, WE'VE CONFIRMED A QUORUM OF OUR MEMBERS. SO WE ARE READY TO PROCEED AND START THIS MEETING FOR THE MINUTES. THE OFFICIAL START TIME FOR THIS MEETING IS 5 34. 5:34 PM WE WILL NOW BEGIN THIS MEETING WITH A ROLL CALL OF OUR MEMBERS. THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR HAVE NOMINATED AND APPROVED EACH OF US TO SERVE AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS, AS I CALL EACH DISTRICT, PLEASE INDICATE YOUR PRESENCE. DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO. JONATHAN MAPLES. DISTRICT TWO, PRESENT. DISTRICT THREE. CHONGA HIGGINS. DISTRICT THREE. PRESENT. DISTRICT FOUR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. PRESENT. OH. BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS. IF YOU COULD BE THE LOVE YOU TO TURN YOUR CAMERA ON IF POSSIBLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DISTRICT FIVE. IT'S A LOT OF MOVEMENT. UM, UH, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO DISTRACT, BUT I, I'LL TURN IT ON IF, IF I HAVE TO. YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. DISTRICT FIVE, DISTRICT SIX. DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT EIGHT. JUDGE C VICTOR LANDER. DISTRICT EIGHT. PRESENT. DISTRICT NINE. DISTRICT 10. UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? DISTRICT 10, PRESENT. DISTRICT 11. OKAY. DISTRICT 12. DD WADSWORTH, DISTRICT 12 PRESENT. DISTRICT 13. DISTRICT 13. PRESENT. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14. BRANDON FRIEDMAN PRESENT. AND DISTRICT 15 IS MYSELF, JOHN MARK DAVISON. PRESENT THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD, IS TO ENHANCE THE PUBLIC'S TRUST THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT AGAINST DALLAS POLICE. DEPARTMENTAL EMPLOYEES ARE CONDUCTED FAIRLY AND THOROUGHLY, ARE TRANSPARENT, AND ENSURE THE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE MEANS TO THE COMPLAINT PROCESS. TO HELP ENSURE THIS ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, THE OCPO PROVIDES FUNCTIONAL SUPPORT AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO THE C TO THE CPOB. WE'VE ARRIVED AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR MEETING. AND IN LINE WITH THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES, THOUGH I DO RESERVE THE RIGHT, UH, TO ADJUST BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS. AND IF YOU HAVE NOT YET SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, PLEASE SEE A MEMBER OF THE OCPO STAFF HERE ON THE SIDE, AND THEY CAN HELP YOU SIGN UP. THERE WILL BE TIME AT THE END OF THE MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE PRODUCTIVE, RESPECTFUL, AND CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE. TO ACHIEVE THIS, WE MUST ENGAGE WITH STRUCTURE AND MUTUAL RESPECT. SO PLEASE REMAIN RESPECTFUL AND REFRAIN FROM PROFANE, PERSONAL, THREATENING, DEROGATORY, DEMEANING, OR ABUSIVE STATEMENTS. AND I ASK THAT ALL PARTICIPANTS EXTEND COURTESY TO ONE ANOTHER AS WE WORK THROUGH THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES. RESPECT AND KINDNESS ARE PARAMOUNT AS WE DISCUSS MATTERS THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY. AND A PERSON ENGAGING IN, IN CONDUCT THAT DISRUPTS THE MEETING IS SUBJECT TO BEING MUTED OR REMOVED FROM THE MEETING. FINALLY, PUBLIC COMMENT MUST RELATE TO THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION AND DOESN'T INCLUDE THE RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE. ACCORDING TO MY NOTES HERE, UH, WE HAVE QUITE A LOT OF, UH, SPEAKERS TODAY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. UM, 2, 4, 6, 8, UH, EIGHT IN TOTAL. SO WHAT WE'LL BE GIVING THREE MINUTES EACH, UH, TO EACH, UM, SPEAKER. SO AT FIRST I'D LIKE TO INVITE TO THE MICROPHONE, MS. AMY URA. AMY URA. IS THERE AN AMY URA IN PRESENT HERE OR ONLINE? ONE MORE CHANCE. AMY URA. NEXT IS DOLORES PHILLIPS. WELCOME MS. PHILLIPS. AND YOU KNOW THE DRILL WHEN YOU GET TO THE STAGE, UH, PLEASE TURN ON THE MICROPHONE. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A TIMER THAT WILL BE ON THE [00:05:01] SCREEN. AND, UH, WE ASK THAT, UH, WHEN THAT TIMER HIT ZERO, THAT YOU, UH, CAN FINISH YOUR STATEMENT AND RESPECT, UH, THE TIME LIMIT. BUT, UH, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. AND, UH, YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU, YOU START SPEAKING. THANK YOU, CHAIR DOLORES PHILLIPS. THIS IS NOT A DRILL, IT'S REAL LIFE. YOU HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS. THE FIRST PAGE AT THE TOP, IT HAS DPD REPORT NUMBER OCTOBER 25TH, 2013. THE, THE REPORT NUMBER IS 0 2 7 3 2 9 1 8. THAT MEETING WAS PREARRANGED BY MAYOR ROLLINS TWO TO THREE WEEKS PRIOR. THIS IS SO CORRUPT THAT YOU HAVE A WHOLE CHIEF CLERK AND A WHOLE DIFFERENT JURISDICTION THAN DALLAS COUNTY SAYING THAT TELLING ANOTHER PARTY IN AN ESTATE CASE THAT THEY SHOULD GO TO THE FBI AND TO THE DA ON ME. THIS IS ON BODY CAM. WHEN I ASKED THE CHIEF CLERK, FORMER CHIEF CLERK, DID SHE SAY THIS? SHE SAID SHE DIDN'T DENY IT. SHE SAID, ALL THAT STUFF IS ONLINE. SO YOU'RE NOT BEING FAIR WHEN YOU DO THESE INVESTIGATIONS BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP THAT'S CAUSING IRREPARABLE HARM. NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE, YOU HAVE THE FIRST PAGE STARTING FROM THE BOTTOM, HIGHLIGHTED FROM THE BOTTOM. YOU HAVE INCIDENT 6 21 2009. THAT WAS SIX, THAT WAS EIGHT 18. THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWS ON YOUR REPORT. BUT THE CALL WAS EIGHT 17. THERE WAS A EIGHT 17 CALL, A 8 33 CALL, AND A 8 55 CALL. YOU HAVE THE 9 1 1 CALLS. ON THAT DAY, THERE WERE THREE CALLS MADE. I WANT YOU TO TURN THE PAGE. THIS WAS WRITTEN BY DALLAS POLICE THAT'S CIRCLED IN ORANGE. IT SAYS THIS IS THE FIRST CALL ON THE CD. IN THE ONLY CALL SHE HIGHLIGHTED, SHE WAS LOOKING AT, SHE HIGHLIGHTED CALL 8 33. EIGHT THIRTY THREE IS REALLY THE EIGHT 17 CALL DUKE TWICE. THEY TOOK ME TO GREEN OAKS TO INTERCEPT COURT DOCUMENTS. THEY ALSO USED THIS FABRICATED POLICE REPORT AT UTA WHERE DPD HAD CONNECTIONS AT UTA HAD CONNECTIONS AT GREEN OAKS. SO EVERYBODY GET PAID AT THE EXPENSE OF HUMAN LIVES. BUT CHAIR, I NEED YOU TO LISTEN TO ME 'CAUSE I'M KNOCKING ON FAMILIAR DOORS, UNFAMILIAR DOORS, NEW PEOPLE, OLD PEOPLE, I'M KNOCKING ON DOORS. THEY USED THAT FABRICATED POLICE REPORT AGAINST MY DAD IN DALLAS COUNTY PROBATE COURT NUMBER TWO, PR DASH TWO THREE DASH 0 3 4 29 DASH TWO. WHEN I SEEN MY DAD, MY DAD TOLD ME NOT TO LEAVE HIM. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A GROWN MAN CRY? IT'LL NEVER BE FUNNY TO ME, BUT JUST HEAR ME OUT. I WENT TO THE FBII SENT THEM EMAILS. I SENT THEM MORE EVIDENCE THAT IT'S A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP. CALL ME DUMB, STUPID, SLOW OR CATCH UP. I'LL BE KNOCKING ON DOORS. THANK YOU CHAIR FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. THANK YOU MS. PHILLIPS. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANNA COME, UH, BE SIGNED UP FOR NEXT MEETING AS WELL? I'M SORRY? WOULD YOU LIKE US TO SIGN YOU UP FOR NEXT MEETING? I ALREADY SENT YOU AN EMAIL. ALRIGHT, PERFECT. THANK YOU. NEXT, I'D LIKE TO INVITE TO THE MICROPHONE, TIFFANY ZAKO. TIFFANY ZAKO, UM, WELCOME. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DRILL, UH, THE MICROPHONE'S THERE. PLEASE MAKE SURE IT'S, UH, TURNED ON SO WE CAN HEAR YOU. AND THOSE ONLINE CAN HEAR YOU AS WELL. AND, UH, THERE'LL BE A TIMER ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU. OKAY. AND WE JUST ASK THAT, UH, UH, YOU RESPECT THAT, UH, THE TIME AND, UH, USE ALL THE TIME THAT YOU NEED. AND WE'LL START THE TIME, UH, WITHIN THE THREE MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL START THE TIMER WHEN YOU BEGIN SPEAKING. ALL RIGHT, SO WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANKS. DO I START IT? I'M SORRY, I FORGOT. DO I START? YOU JUST TALK AND WE'LL, WE'LL START IT THERE. UM, SO I MEAN, I, I COME HERE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS BECAUSE I DID SUBMIT A COMPLAINT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS, UM, IN JANUARY, WHICH WAS DISMISSED. UM, MY REPORT WAS DISMISSED BECAUSE IT WAS APPARENTLY DETERMINED THAT I HAD COME TO THEM FOR GUILT OR INNOCENCE WITH MY CASE. BUT I ACTUALLY CAME TO THEM AFTER MY CASE WAS DISMISSED BECAUSE OF THE EVIDENCE THAT I ACQUIRED MYSELF, UM, AND MY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SUIT. UM, BUT PRETTY MUCH I WAS COMPLETELY ERASED FROM MY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION. [00:10:02] SORRY. UM, I KNOW THAT THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NEVER GONNA BE A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT I MEAN, I REALLY LIKE DON'T EXIST IN IT. UM, I VERY SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE HOSPITAL AND I WAS VERY LUCKY THAT THAT NIGHT A FIREMAN COULD TELL THAT I WAS IN DISTRESS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST NEEDING TO BE MORE TRAUMA INFORMED IN THESE SITUATIONS. UM, BUT I WAS VERY LUCKY THAT HE KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG. AND HE WAS THE ONE THAT FOUND THE STRANGULATION MARKS AND THE PIPE MARKS AND THE BRUISES AND RELAYED THAT TO THE NURSES, UM, . SO LUCKILY FOR HIM, THAT REALLY SAVED MY BUTT. AND, UM, AND IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WATCHED THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE AND THE DISCOVERY OF MY CASE, AND I GAVE INTERNAL AFFAIRS THE LABEL ON THAT VIDEO WITH THE NURSE TELLING THE OFFICER THAT I HAD BEEN STRANGLED. AND THEY JUST TOLD HER THAT I WAS THE AGGRESSOR. AND, YOU KNOW, SHE EVEN ASKS HIM, YOU KNOW, SO ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT HE STRANGLED HER OUTTA SELF-DEFENSE? AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S JUST LIKE, I'LL TAKE PICTURES LATER. AND I VERY VIVIDLY REMEMBER THEM BEING TAKEN, AND I KNOW THAT I CAN'T PROVE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HOURS OF FOOTAGE AT THE HOUSE. I WAS AT THE, THEY WERE THERE FOR ABOUT AN HOUR. I WAS AT THE HOSPITAL FOR THREE HOURS AND THERE'S LIKE, MAYBE THREE VIDEOS THAT I'M AWARE OF. UM, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT IT JUST IS DIFFICULT TOO BECAUSE, AND I BROUGHT YOU GUYS PACKETS MORE TO REFERENCE FOR THE BOAT THAT WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING IS IT DID TRAP ME TO THAT PERSON BECAUSE HE JUST TURNED AROUND AND BAILED ME OUT AND PRETTY MUCH USED THE NO CONTACT ORDER AS LIKE A MEANS OF CONTROL. AND THERE WAS NO ONE I COULD CALL BECAUSE I WAS THE, THE CRIMINAL IN THAT SITUATION. AND I HAD TO TAKE OUT A LOAN AND BASICALLY LIKE ESCAPE HIM. UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANT TO GET INTO. BUT I DID BRING YOU GUYS PACKETS MORE JUST TO REFERENCE. 'CAUSE YOU'RE VOTING TONIGHT. NOTHING TO LET GO ALONG WITH THIS. AND I KNOW IT'S OVERKILL, BUT THAT'S JUST HOW I DO. SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MS. KO. AND, UH, AT THIS TO THE BOARD IS AWARE, UH, THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE, UM, CASES THAT WE TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, UH, LATER IN THE MEETING. UM, AGENDA 10 C ONE. UH, AND WE'LL BE VOTING, UH, AS A BOARD WHETHER WE'D LIKE TO, UM, INVESTIGATE FURTHER ON HER, UH, HER COMPLAINT. AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. AND, UH, YOU CAN HAND THE PACKETS, UH, TO THE STAFF AND, AND THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE RECEIVE THOSE. NEXT I'D LIKE TO ASK AMY POWERS IF SHE'S PRESENT OR ONLINE, INVITE HER TO THE MICROPHONE. AMY POWERS, UM, AALIYAH WALTON. AALIYAH WALTON, UH, IS THERE AN AALIYAH WALTON ONLINE? OKAY. PAIGE WALLACE, I BELIEVE IT SAYS HERE, VIRTUAL. UM, IS THERE A PAGE WALLACE ONLINE THAT WE CAN, UH, INVITE? HI, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME OKAY? UH, THANK YOU PAIGE, FOR BEING HERE. YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. UM, WE, WE'LL NEED TO HAVE A CAMERA IF POSSIBLE. CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON? OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW WE CAN SEE YOU. UH, WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN THE TIMER. DO YOU SEE THAT? OKAY, GREAT. YES, SIR. WELL, UH, YEAH, WHENEVER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, GO AHEAD AND, AND START. UH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU AND, UH, THE TIMER WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU, UH, START TALKING AND, AND SPEAKING. AND, UM, IF POSSIBLE, WHEN THE TIMER RUNS OUT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE FINISH YOUR SENTENCE, FINISH YOUR THOUGHT. UH, BUT, UH, IF I KNOW YOU WILL JUST RESPECTFUL OF THE TIME OF THE THREE MINUTES, BUT, UH, NOW THE FLOOR IS YOURS. UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE INVITED TO SPEAK WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PAIGE WALLACE AND I'M AT 75 0 9 INWOOD. AND I'M SPEAKING TODAY ABOUT A SERIOUS ISSUE THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE FREQUENTLY AS A JOURNALIST. I'VE BEEN COVERING THE PROTESTS THAT ARE HAPPENING ALMOST DAILY NOW, WHETHER THEY'RE TARGETING TRUMP, ELON MUSK, WOMEN'S RALLIES, WHERE IRONICALLY, MEN ARE THE ONES LEADING THOSE RALLIES OR OIL PROTESTS, EVEN THOUGH ALL THE ITEMS THOSE PROTESTORS ARE WEARING CONTAINED PETROLEUM. BUT YOU GET THE POINT OF THESE CONTRADICTING PROTESTS. WHILE I MAY NOT NECESSARILY ALIGN WITH THE PROTESTORS PERSPECTIVES, I DO BELIEVE [00:15:01] IT'S CRUCIAL TO RECORD THESE EVENTS, TO INFORM AMERICANS ABOUT WHAT DRIVES THESE GROUPS, THE ISSUES THEY PRIORITIZE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HOW THEY REACT TO OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS IN RECENT WEEKS. HOWEVER, I'VE ENCOUNTERED PHYSICAL VIOLENCE WHEN ATTENDING THESE EVENTS. I'VE BEEN ATTACKED THREE TIMES WHERE I'VE GOTTEN HOT COFFEE AND WATER THROWN ON ME AND EVEN HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A TRANCE FLAGPOLE. BUT THAT'S THE PARTY OF LOVE, LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE WROTE, THOUGH, AM I RIGHT? BUT WHAT'S MOST CONCERNING IS THAT POLICE OFFICERS OR PROTEST TASK FORCE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN PRESENT DURING THESE INCIDENTS, OBSERVING WITHOUT INTERVENING. AND TO BE CLEAR, I DO ATTEND THESE PROTESTS SOLELY TO FILM. I DO NOT INTERACT WITH ANYONE OR PROVOKE PHYSICAL AGGRESSION. AND I DO HOLD THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN HIGH REGARD FOR THEIR DAILY SACRIFICES TO KEEP US SAFE. BUT THAT'S WHY IT'S SO UNSETTLING TO SENSE AN UNEVEN APPLICATION OF JUSTICE, WHERE THOSE COMMITTING PHYSICAL VIOLENCE APPEAR TO BE SHIELDED WHILE I SIMPLY REPORTING THE SCENE WITHOUT HARMING ANYONE AND LEFT VULNERABLE. AND I FEEL I FEAR RETALIATION IF I WERE TO FILE A POLICE REPORT. ONE THING THAT MAKES AMERICA THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT, FREEDOM OF SPEECH. AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS PROTECTED. AS EVERYONE KNOWS, TENSIONS HAVE BEEN RISING DAILY IN OUR COUNTRY DUE TO DIFFERING POLITICAL BELIEFS. THE DIVERSITY OF BELIEFS IS A CRUCIAL ELEMENT IN MAKING AMERICA THE REMARKABLE COUNTRY THAT I'M PROUD TO CALL HOME. I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT SHOULD CURRENT TRENDS PERSIST, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT RISK THAT SOMEONE MAY BE SERIOUSLY INJURED OR WORSE DURING ONE OF THESE PROTESTS. I SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION, AND I REMAIN HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO RESOLVE THIS MATTER MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. WALLACE. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND FOR YOUR COMMENTS TODAY. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. I'D NOW LIKE TO, UH, INVITE ALEX STEIN. UH, TO, UH, TO THE ONLINE PLATFORM IS ALEX STEIN PRESENT. IS THERE A MR. STEIN ONLINE BY CHANCE? MR. STEIN? WELCOME. YES. UH, YOU KNOW, THE DRILL, THREE MINUTES AND, UM, UH, WHEN THE THREE MINUTES IS UP AND YOU HAVE BEEN, JUST BE RESPECTFUL OF THE, THIS TIME LIMIT. AND, UH, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, THE TIMER WILL BEGIN. AND THE THE FLOOR IS YOURS. OH, MR. STEIN, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? NOW WE CAN. NOW WE CAN NOW YOU CAN'T HEAR ME. UH, YES, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK. UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY MY COMPUTER'S DOING IT. I'M NOT JUST SAYING THIS. YOU ARE ONE OF THE GREATEST, UH, ANY, UM, ANY GROUP OF THESE MEETINGS, YOU ACTUALLY RUN THESE MEETINGS GREAT. BUT SOMETIMES IT WEBEX SYSTEM, AND THAT'S DISRESPECT TO THE WEBMASTER. THIS, THIS DOESN'T WORK THAT WELL ON MY MACINTOSH. I THINK IT'S MORE FOR PCS. BUT LISTEN, I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M WASTING ALL MY TIME. AND YOU GUYS GOT THE DAMN CLOCK ON ME. YOU GOT ME STRESSED. SO GUYS, MY NAME'S, UH, PRIME TIME. ALEX SIGN. I GO TO A LOT OF THESE PROTESTS, DO MY BABY. UH, PREPAID WIRELESS WAS JUST SPEAKING AND SHE WAS VERY EARNEST WITH WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THAT, LISTEN, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THE COPS TO GO THROUGH AND JUST START BUSTING PEOPLE AND ARRESTING AND THROWING PEOPLE IN JAIL, BUT WHEN THESE COPS WERE, YOU KNOW, THEIR WHOLE TASK IS TO GO WATCH THESE PROTESTS AND YOU SEE PEOPLE GET HIT WITH A STICK, YOU GUYS SHOULD AT LEAST INTERVENE. I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYBODY TO GET ARRESTED. I MEAN, I'M JUST OUT THERE TRYING TO COVER THIS BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE DOING THESE PROTESTS AND THEY GET MAD WHEN I FILM THEM. YET THEY'RE DOING A PROTEST FOR ATTENTION. THEY'RE NOT DOING THIS, UH, IN A PRIVATE BUILDING, BUT THEY'RE DOING THIS IN PUBLIC SO THEY CAN BE SEEN. SO I THINK IT'S VERY WEIRD, VERY HYPOCRITICAL OF THEM TO GET MAD WHEN I START FILMING THEIR PROTESTS. AND EVEN THOUGH I DO FILM THE PROTEST, THAT SHOULD MAKE ME SUBJECT TO GETTING HIT IN THE HIGH WITH A DAMN TRANS FLAG CALL, ESPECIALLY YOU GOT ME IN TROUBLE WITH MY GIRLFRIEND, MY GIRLFRIEND'S NOW STRESSED OUT. SHE DOESN'T WANNA COME OUT HERE AND REPORT ANY OF THIS STUFF. THEY'VE GOT ME PROBLEMS AT HOME. THIS CHIEF EVO SAYING HE DOESN'T WANNA KICK OUT ANY THESE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS EITHER. SO LORD KNOWS THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE MORE AND MORE, UH, EMBOLDENED AT THESE IMMIGRATION RALLIES. AND THEN WHEN THEY COMMIT A CRIME, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO HE IS BECAUSE HE DIDN'T EVEN COME HERE ON THE RIGHT PAPERWORK. SO YOU CAN'T EVEN DEPORT HIM. BUT Y'ALL CAN FIND ME IN TWO SECONDS. I'M THIS TWO TIER JUSTICE SYSTEM, AND I'M NOT EVEN ASKING FOR A BUNCH OF PEOPLE TO GO TO JAIL. I'M NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT. WHAT I WANT IS TO BE PROTECTED. I WANT YOU GUYS TO WORRY ABOUT KEEPING US SAFE. YOU, I DON'T CARE ABOUT, YOU GUYS WANT PEOPLE IN JAIL. I THINK YOU GUYS DO THAT A LITTLE TOO MUCH ANYWAY, YOU KNOW. BUT LISTEN, WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. WHAT WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT WE NEED THESE PEOPLE TO STEP IN A LITTLE BIT AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING WHEN IT COMES TO THESE PROTESTS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA PROTECT PEOPLE. LIKE CASE, YOU KNOW ME, IF THEY KILL ME, I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, I GOT SHOT FIVE TIMES, YOU [00:20:01] KNOW, AND I'M STILL BREATHED IN LIVING PROOF. THERE'S A GOD IF YOU NEED A REASON. I MEAN, I'M HARDCORE LIKE THAT, BUT MY BABY'S NOT HARDCORE. SHE'S NOT A DUCK. SHE'S NOT RAISED FROM THE STREETS OF HIGHLAND PARK. SHE DIDN'T COME HOME WITH HER PARENTS AT WORK. I GOT THE KEY. AND WATCHING RATED MOVIES AND X-RATED MOVIES, AND HER PARENTS AT TOWN, SHE'S NOT LIKE ME. SHE'S NOT MESSED UP IN THE HEAD. SHE DIDN'T GET EXPOSED TO DRUG ADDICTS. SHE NEVER SAW SOMEBODY SMOKE CRYSTAL METHAMPHETAMINE BECOME THEIR BABYSITTER, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TO GET VERY INVOLVED IN THEIR LIFE. SO SHE NEVER SAW THAT. SO SHE'S NOT BUILT FOR THIS. I AM BUILT FOR STUFF, BUT THESE COPS NEED TO PROTECT THESE LADIES. AND, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE CRIMINALITY OF THE SITUATION, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE GO TO JAIL, I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP MY BABY PROTECTED. SO YOU GUYS NEED TO INTERVENE A LITTLE FASTER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, PUSHING SHELBY'S GONNA HAPPEN. JUST SHUT IT DOWN. DON'T JAIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COULD YOU HEAR ME? IS MY AUDIO? DID MY AUDIO WORK? I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. IT SOUNDS ALL CRACKLED UP. YEAH, IT WAS HARD TO HEAR. WE, WE COULD CAPTURE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WE HAD TO REALLY, UH, LEAN IN TO HEAR. BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF NEXT TIME TOO, WE NEED TO WORK ON THE, THE AUDIO IF POSSIBLE. UH, THE SOUND QUALITY ISN'T THE BEST ALL. THANKS SO MUCH. I'D LIKE TO, UH, THE FINAL SPEAKER THAT WE HAVE FOR THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING IS ABDUL SAMAD. THANK YOU, MR. SAMAD. UH, WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD. UH, THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE MICROPHONE. I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU AND, UH, MAKE SURE THE MICROPHONE'S TURNED ON IF POSSIBLE, AND SO WE CAN ALL HEAR YOU. AND THOSE ONLINE CAN HEAR YOU AS WELL. AND, UH, WHEN YOU BEGIN SPEAKING, YOU'LL SEE THE TIMER BEGIN TO COUNT DOWN. AND WE JUST ASK THAT, UH, YOU CAN FINISH YOUR SENTENCE, YOUR THOUGHT, BUT BE RESPECTFUL OF THE THREE MINUTES. BUT WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, YOU CAN BEGIN AND THE THE TIMER WILL START. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UH, YES. THANK YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M NOT QUITE SURE THE MICROPHONE'S ON. JUST PRESS IT ONCE. PRESS YOUR BUTTON. . ALRIGHT, CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, I'D LIKE TO GREET EVERYONE WITH PEACE. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME IS ABDUL MUHAMMAD AHAD. I AM A DALLAS SENIOR CITIZEN. I'M 79 YEARS OLD. UH, DECEMBER 22ND, 2024. I HAD A IN, UH, LIGHT TRAFFIC INCIDENT IN PLEASANT GROVE AREA AT, UH, UH, MASTERS IN LATE JUNE. UH, I THINK THE COMMITTEE HAS ALL OF MY, UH, DETAILS, BUT I WAS, I WAS CONFRONTED WITH VERY HOSTILE, HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT BY CALLING 9 1 1 WITH ONE OF OUR DALLAS POLICE OFFICER. I CALLED, MATTER OF FACT, I MADE THREE CALLS. I HAD TO, THE SECOND CALL WAS FOR A, UH, SUPERVISOR BECAUSE THE, THE ACCIDENT BECAME HOSTILE. IT, IT CAME, IT TURNED INTO A ROAD RAGE LIKE ENVIRONMENT. SO SINCE THEN, I'VE BEEN, UH, TRYING MY BEST TO DEFEND MYSELF AND MY RIGHTS. AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT IS WHAT IS CALLED INACCURATE INVESTIGATION, WHICH IT VIOLATED MY CIVIL RIGHTS. UH, IT, IT IMPEDED MY JUSTICE FOR FAIR JUDGMENT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. I THINK THE GROUP, IF I, IF I DON'T BE ABLE TO COME IN CONTACT WITH THE GROUP, UH, COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, I WOULDN'T BE HERE. BUT I THANK THEM YOU ALL FOR TAKING MY COMPLAINT. BUT, UH, I'M HERE AS I HAD MY DR, UH, SOCIAL SECURITY DRIVING LICENSE INSURANCE, AND THE PEOPLE I HAD THE INCIDENT WITH, NO SPEAK ENGLISH, NO INSURANCE, NO DRIVING LICENSE. AND THEY WERE THE ONE INTERVIEW, NOT ME. I SPEAK GOOD ENGLISH, SOME, SOME, SOME GOOD ENGLISH, BUT I WAS NOT INTERVIEWED . AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE BECAUSE I, I FEEL AS THOUGH THAT I WAS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BY, UH, ONE OFFICER. AND THEN IT JUST WENT ON AND ON AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYWHERE. AND THE LAST THING IS THAT AT THIS PARTICULAR, UM, INTERSECTION, THERE'S A CAMERA FOR, UH, I'M NOT A CAMERA CITY. CAMERA, WALGREENS, ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S A CAMERA. AND THEN ESTA HAS A CAMERA OUT IN THE, UH, PARKING LOT. SO THE DETECTIVE TOLD ME, HE SAID, THERE'S NO CAMERAS IN THIS VICINITY. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT. BUT I HAVE THE PICTURES AND EVERY, ALL THE EVIDENCE TO PROVE THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON, TAKEN BY VIDEO. SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ACCEPTING MY COMPLAINT. THANK YOU, MR. AHMAD. AND HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH THE OFFICE YET? UH, THE OFFICE OF, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT. UH, WELL, I, I WENT THERE WITH MR. HUFFIN. OKAY, WELL, I, I, I THINK I FILED A COMPLAINT, YOUNG LADY HERE. GREAT. THEN YOU'RE, THEN YOU DONE THE RIGHT THING. AND, UH, THE OFFICE WILL TAKE IT FROM THERE. AND THEN, UH, THEY'LL LET US KNOW WHEN WE'RE NEEDED. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT EVENING. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, FOR THOSE THAT CAME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CPOB REGULAR MEETING [00:25:01] MINUTES. SO, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, IF POSSIBLE, UH, TAKE A MOMENT TO REVIEW THE MINUTES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE BOARD PACKET TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY CORRECTIONS OR REVISIONS NEEDED TO BE MADE. AND IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, DISTRICT FOUR. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRINTED. BEEN A MOTION MADE. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. D 10. JENNY KING. SECONDS. ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO A VOTE? SEEN? THERE'S NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? AYE. ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND, UH, FOR THE ATTENDANCE, I DO WANT TO, UH, MAKE NOTE THAT, UH, UH, MS UH, ARLENE STEINFELD IS HERE, UH, PRESENT DISTRICT DISTRICT 11. AND, UH, NOW VICE CHAIRMAN, UH, OZZIE SMITH, DISTRICT ONE IS ALSO PRESENT. UH, JUST SO, UH, THOSE TAKING THE MINUTES CAN, UH, NOTE THEIR ATTENDANCE. OKAY. UM, WE ARE, UM, NOW ON AGENDA ITEM FIVE, WHICH IS AN UPDATE ON THE SEARCH FOR THE CHIEF OF POLICE AT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND, UH, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, THERE'S NO BREAKING NEWS HERE. UH, THERE'S NOTHING, NO SECRETS THAT WE HAVE THAT NO ONE HAS THAT DECISION, OF COURSE, IS WITH THE CITY MANAGER. UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE BOARD AN UPDATE THAT, UH, LAST WEEK ON APRIL 1ST, THE DIRECTOR AND I, UH, SPENT THE DAY HERE AT CITY HALL AS PART OF A PANEL. UH, AND THERE WERE FIVE CANDIDATES, UH, THAT ROTATED THROUGHOUT THE DAY HERE IN CITY HALL. AND, UH, WE WERE IN A GROUP, UH, ONE OF THE PANELS HERE AT CITY HALL. AND OUR GROUP WAS OVERSIGHT AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. AND THE DIRECTOR AND I WERE A PART OF THAT. AND, UH, THERE WERE FOUR OTHER, UH, INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS OF DALLAS THAT WERE ALSO ON THAT PANEL. AND, UH, WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS, UH, THAT PERTAIN TO OVERSIGHT, THAT PERTAIN TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THAT CONTINUED TO OUTREACH. AND, UH, WE ASKED EACH OF THE CANDIDATES THESE LIST OF QUESTIONS, AND EACH OF US FILLED OUT A EVALUATION FORM, UH, THAT WE, THE, THE PROS OF EACH CANDIDATE, SOME OF THE AREAS, UM, THAT, THAT COULD BE POTENTIAL CHALLENGES FOR EACH CANDIDATE. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE SUBMITTED THAT, UH, FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO REVIEW. AND, UH, WE EXPRESSED TO HER, UM, SOME OF THE PROS AND CONS OF THE CANDIDATES. AND, UH, SHE MENTIONED THAT SHE'LL BE, UH, LOOKING THROUGH EACH OF THOSE, UH, PACKETS, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE THOUGHTS OF THE DIRECTOR AND MYSELF, AS WELL AS THE OTHER, UH, PANELISTS IN OUR ROOM. AND, UH, SHE WILL, UH, MAKE THE DECISION FOR WHO THE NEXT, UH, POLICE CHIEF WILL BE. UH, BUT SO, SORRY. NO BREAKING NEWS. I KNOW THE NEWS IS HERE, UH, FOR THE, AND, UH, NOTHING, NOTHING TO REPORT. UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE, UH, TO THE BOARD. UH, 'CAUSE WE DID REPRESENT YOU ALL IN THOSE MEETINGS. AND, UM, OVERSIGHT WAS A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR EACH OF THE CANDIDATES. WE HEARD, UM, THEIR VIEWPOINTS, THEIR EXPERIENCES, THEIR HOPES AND DREAMS, AND, UM, OUR REFLECTIONS WERE, UH, SENT TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND, UH, IF, IF, WE'D LOVE TO SPEAK TO EACH OF YOU PRIVATELY AS WELL, UH, ABOUT THOSE EXPERIENCES AS WELL. AND WE CAN BE OPEN ABOUT OUR, UM, IMPRESSIONS OF EACH OF THE CANDIDATES AND WHO, UH, OUR FINALISTS THAT WE SUBMITTED, UH, WOULD BE TO THE, TO THE CITY MANAGER. SO THAT'S ALL ON THAT AGENDA ITEM. DID YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING? DIRECTOR? SO I BELIEVE RIGHT BEFORE THAT, UM, I ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE NEWS JUST BRIEFLY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO COLLABORATING WITH THIS PERSON. UM, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING REALLY CLOSELY, SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT RELATIONSHIP AND WHOEVER'S SELECTED, LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, OUR PANEL WAS CALLED OVERSIGHT, BUT ALL FIVE OF THEM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO KISS UP TO US, BUT ALL FIVE OF THEM, UH, WELCOMED, UH, WORKING WITH OVERSIGHT AND WELCOMED THAT RELATIONSHIP, THAT TRANSPARENCY. SO, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE, UH, WHO, UH, THE FINAL CANDIDATE WILL BE FROM THE CITY MANAGER. ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE BOARD, UH, ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCE AT THAT TIME? AT THIS TIME, SEEING THERE'S NONE. WE'LL, UH, WE'LL MOVE NOW. UH, WE'LL HAVE TO TABLE, UM, AGENDA ITEM FIVE, I'M SORRY. AGENDA ITEM SIX. UH, FROM THE DPD INTERIM CHIEF MICHAEL IGO. IGO. NOW, HE WAS SCHEDULED TO BE HERE TODAY AND, UH, THE LAST MINUTE HAD, UH, AN EMERGENCY COME UP, UH, THAT, UH, COULDN'T BE HERE, SO I JUST WANTED TO, HE [00:30:01] EXPRESSED HIS, UM, REGRET TO NOT BE HERE, BUT, UM, WE APPRECIATE HIS DESIRE TO, TO TRY AND, UH, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MEETING WE'LL BE ABLE TO RESCHEDULE. UH, SO WE'LL MOVE ON NOW TO ITEM SEVEN ON THE AGENDA WHERE, UH, WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION, UM, FROM THE CRISIS RESPONSE MANAGER, TABITHA D CASTILLO. YES. THANK YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE THIS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A BOARD HAVE BEEN VERY CURIOUS ABOUT. WE WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT THE RIGHT CARE UNIT. WE WANT TO KNOW HOW THE SITUATION IS NOW, UM, YOUR EVALUATION OF HOW THINGS ARE AND HOW WE AS A BOARD CAN BE ADVOCATES FOR THE GOOD THAT YOU'RE DOING. SO, UH, RECOGNIZE YOU AT THIS TIME AND SPEAK WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. AGAIN, I'M TABITHA CASTILLO. I AM, UH, THE PROGRAM MANAGER IN THE OFFICE OF, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE, WHERE I OVERSEE, UH, THE RIGHT CARE UNIT. UH, AND I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR COORDINATING, UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND, UH, SIDE AND OPERATIONAL SIDE WITH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE, UM, INCLUDED IN OUR DEPART IN, IN OUR UNIT. I ALSO OVERSEE CRISIS INTERVENTION, WHICH IS THE CIVILIAN RESPONSE TEAM FOR THE CITY. BUT TODAY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT W RIGHT CARE. UM, ALSO WITH ME, UM, I HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT MAKE UP THE UNIT. UH, AND WITH THAT, I'LL BEGIN THE PRESENTATION . SO TODAY I'LL BE SHARING AN OVERVIEW OF THE RIGHT CARE UNIT AND ITS IMPACT ON, UH, THE DALLAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, UH, COMMUNITY. UM, OUR AGENDA WILL INCLUDE BACKGROUND, UH, OPERATIONS, AND AN OVERVIEW OF THE KEY TRENDS THAT WE SAW IN 2024. UH, NEXT SLIDE. RAPID INTEGRATED GROUP HEALTHCARE TEAM. THAT IS OUR ACRONYM FOR RIGHT CARE. UM, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR RESPONDING TO ALL OF THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH 9 1 1 CALLS, UH, THAT COME IN THROUGH THE 9 1 1 DISPATCH CENTER. UH, OUR UNIT IS FOCUSED IN ASSESSING DEESCALATION AND STABILIZING, UH, INDIVIDUALS AS WE ENCOUNTER POLICE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS. UH, OUR PROGRAM LAUNCHED AS A PILOT IN JANUARY OF 2018, AND WAS FORMALLY ESTABLISHED AS A UNIT AND SERVING CITYWIDE IN 2020 EACH RIGHT? CARE TEAM INCLUDES THREE COMPONENTS. UM, WE OPERATE AS A CO RESPONSE UNIT. UM, EACH TEAM INCLUDES ONE DALLAS POLICE OFFICER, ONE DALLAS FIRE RESCUE PARAMEDIC, AND ONE PARKLAND HEALTH SOCIAL WORKER. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE CO RESPONSE UNIT. AND SO, UM, ANYTIME THAT OUR I CARE TEAM, TEAM RESPONDS TO A POLICE MENTAL HEALTH CALL, YOU'LL GET ONE POLICE VEHICLE AND ALL THREE MEMBERS WILL BE IN ONE VEHICLE. UM, SO IT'S A MULTI-AGENCY RESPONSE. NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE OUR PROGRAM OBJECTIVES. UM, THEY'RE VERY CLEAR. UM, WE PROVIDE TIMELY, COMPASSIONATE RESPONSE TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRISIS. UM, AND OUR GOAL IS TO DIVERT INDIVIDUALS FROM JAIL TIME, UM, AND, AND HOSPITALIZATION. UM, ALSO ULTIMATELY WHILE BUILDING TRUST WITH COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'RE GETTING THE PROPER, UH, RESPONSE, UH, AS IT RELATES TO THEIR HEALTH CRISIS. UM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THAT WE WOULD RELIEVE FIRST RESPONDERS FROM ANSWERING THESE CALLS, UM, AND RELIEVE THEM TO ANSWER OTHER HIGHER PRIORITY CALLS. BUT JUST EMPHASIZING THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THE BEST RESPONSE, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE TYPES OF CALLS. NEXT SLIDE. OPERATIONS. UH, RIGHT HERE, AS I MENTIONED, WE SERVE THE CITY CITYWIDE. THERE IS ONE TEAM DESIGNATED TO EACH OF THE POLICE DIVISIONS. UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A TOTAL OF 18 TEAMS, UM, AND THERE ARE SEVEN PRIMARY TEAMS, ONE FOR EACH DIVISION, TWO ROVERS DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS, AND THEN TWO OVERNIGHT TEAMS. UM, YEAH, SO A TOTAL OF 18 AND A 24 HOUR SPAN. AND THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT A CALL LOOKS LIKE FROM START TO FINISH. SO, UH, A CALL WOULD COME IN THROUGH THE NINE ONE ONE CALL CENTER. A, UM, A CALL WOULD BE [00:35:01] ALLOCATED OR, UH, LABELED AS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CALL. AND THEN A, UH, RIGHT CARE TEAM WOULD RESPOND TO THE UNIT AND WE WOULD DEPLOY AND, UH, CARRY OUT OUR, OUR, OUR GENERAL PROTOCOL, UM, WHICH INCLUDES ONE, THE RIGHT CARE OFFICER COMPLETING A, UM, CHECKING IN WITH THE CALLER AND, AND ENSURING THAT THERE'S THE SCENE IS SECURE AND SAFE, AND THAT EVERYONE ON SITE IS SAFE. UM, AND THEN SECONDLY, FOR OUR PARAMEDIC TO CONDUCT A, UM, MEDICAL ASSESSMENT AND TO CHECK VITALS. UH, AND THEN LASTLY, FOR OUR, UH, PARKLAND HEALTH SOCIAL WORK WORKER TO CONDUCT A PSYCHOSOCIAL ASSESSMENT TO SEE, UM, WHAT, UM, WHAT WE COULD, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT AND BEST PATH FORWARD FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. UH, AT THE, AS AT THE END OF, UM, THAT ASSESSMENT. UM, ONCE THE PATIENT HAS BEEN REFERRED TO SERVICES, WE CONDUCT AN ADDITI ONE ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP, UH, TO THE PATIENT TO SEE THAT THEY WERE CONNECTED TO CARE AND, UM, THAT WE'VE WERE ABLE TO MAKE A CONNECTION. NEXT SLIDE. BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CALL SIGNALS. UH, THERE ARE THREE DESIGNATED CALL SIGNALS, POLICE CALL SIGNALS THAT ARE, UM, OUTLINED SPECIFICALLY FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. UM, THE FIRST IS A 46 CIT CALL. THIS CALL RESPONSE INCLUDES FOUR OFFICERS AND ONE SUPERVISOR. UM, AND AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE A, IN A DISORIENTED PERSON, UH, AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE PUNCHING IN THE AIR OR A PERSON BEING AGGRESSIVE. ABOUT 46% OF OUR CALLS ARE, UH, THE GENERAL BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, UH, CALL, WHICH IS THE 46 CIT CALL. SECONDLY, WE HAVE THE 46 A, WHICH IS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CALL THAT REQUIRES AN AMBULANCE. THIS RESPONSE INCLUDES FOUR OFFICERS, SUPERVISORS, AND AN AMBULANCE, UM, AND INCLUDES THE RIGHT CARE ELEMENT. UM, AND, AND HERE YOU SEE, THESE ARE JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT TYPES OF CALLS, UH, WOULD BE UNDER THE 46 A, FOR EXAMPLE, A JUMPER. UM, IF THERE'S SUBSTANCE ABUSE, UM, THIS IS A HIGHER LEVEL RISK CALL. AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE THE 46 RC. THESE ARE CALLS WHERE OUR UNITS ARE RESPONDING TO CALLS WITHOUT THE HELP OF AN ADDITIONAL PATROL ELEMENT OR ANOTHER OFFICER. UM, AND I WOULD JUST GO BACK TO NOTING THAT FOR THE 46 CIT AND THE 46 A CALLS, THOSE ARE ALL INSTANCES WHERE THE UNIT IS, UM, RESPONDING TO A CALL WITH ANOTHER PATROL ELEMENT. NEXT SLIDE HERE. FROM HERE ON OUT, I'LL JUST BEGIN TO KIND OF SHOW YOU ALL OUR, UM, THE OUTCOMES FOR FROM LAST YEAR OF 2024, UM, AND TALKING ABOUT, UH, CALL ANSWERING. LAST YEAR, THE RIGHT CARE UNIT ANSWERED 12,412 CALLS, UM, AND WE ANSWERED 51% OF ALL THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CALLS, UM, THAT THAT PATROL IS SEEING. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN HERE ARE, HERE IS AN OVERVIEW OF JUST SOME THINK OF DATA POINTS THAT WE COLLECT ON A MONTHLY BASIS. UH, AGAIN, TOTAL CALLS ANSWERED, UH, THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS SERVED, UH, AND THE NUMBER OF JAIL DIVERSIONS THAT WE, THAT WE SEE. AND YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WE AVERAGE ABOUT 11, 1100 CALLS A MONTH. UM, AND WE SERVE, UM, AN AVERAGE OF 750 CLIENTS PER MONTH. UH, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO AVERAGE ABOUT 149 DIVERSIONS FROM JAIL. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS MY FAVORITE SLIDE. UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UM, ONE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CALLS ANSWERED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CALLS ANSWERED, BUT IT SHOWS THE NUMBER OF NON-BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CALLS THAT RIGHT CARE IS ANSWERING. UM, AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE IS 40% OF THE CALLS THAT WE ANSWER ARE NON-BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. UM, I, I LIKE THIS SIDE, I LIKE THIS METRIC BECAUSE IT INDICATES THAT, YOU KNOW, RIDE CARE HAS BEEN IS, IS OFTEN CALLED [00:40:01] TO CALLS WHERE, UM, THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IN THE BEGINNING, UH, OR, UM, IT JUST SHOWS THE WIDE RANGE OF CALLS IN WHICH RIGHTCARE CAN ASSIST WITH. UM, AND I THINK IT ALSO SPEAKS TO THE DEMAND OF THE UNIT. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN HERE WE HAVE A OVERVIEW OF A PAL ARREST. UM, THE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UM, JUST A, A JUST A TIME, AN OVERVIEW OF THE TIMETABLE FROM 2020 TO NOW TO PRESENT. UM, SINCE, AND AS YOU'LL SEE HERE FROM BETWEEN 2020, SINCE THE ESTABL, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF OUR UNIT, WE'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF EIGHT POWER ARRESTS. UM, AND THEN I'VE NOTED HERE ON THE SLIDE FROM 2020 TO 2022, THERE WAS A 23% DECREASE IN, IN THE NUMBER OF EMERGENCY DETENTIONS SEEN, UH, AND THEN, UM, HERE FROM 2022 TO 20 24, 20 8% INCREASE. AND THEN LASTLY, I HAVE, UM, DATA PROVIDED BY OUR PARTNERS AT PARKLAND HEALTH, UH, WHICH ALSO HIGHLIGHTS, UM, THE TRAJECTORY OF EMERGENCY DETENTIONS THAT WE'VE SEEN AT PARKLAND OVER THE COURSE OF TIME. UM, AND SIMILAR TO THE A PAL ARREST WE'VE SEEN AND HAVE FOUND OVER THE YEARS A REDUCTION IN, IN THE NUMBER OF A PALS THAT HAVE COME INTO THE HOSPITAL. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION BRIEF. UM, BUT WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. AS IT RELATES TO THE UNIT OPERATIONS OR, UH, ANY ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED, UH, WITH THE UNIT. THANK YOU MS. CASTILLO. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UH, WHO EL WHO HERE THAT'S IN, IN THIS ROOM IS IN THE RIGHT CARE UNIT, COURTESY. AND, UH, WHAT ROLES, WHAT ROLES DO YOU GUYS PLAY IN, IN THE RIGHT CARE UNIT? YEAH. HI, MY NAME'S CURTIS YOUNG. I'M THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL FOOTBALL. OKAY. SERGEANT PEREZ. I THE, I'M LIEUTENANT CARE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THE PRESENTATION IS VERY HELPFUL AND I KNOW THE BOARD MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THEM AT THIS TIME, UH, TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, UH, TO THIS TEAM ABOUT THE OPERATIONS. UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MS. KING, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE WRIGHT CARE TEAM. I THINK THIS IS REALLY A WONDERFUL PROGRAM AND SERVICE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS. SO, PARDON ME, I KNOW YOU SAID SOME OF THIS, BUT WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 9 1 1, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE IT SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT CARE RESPONSE? JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HEARD THE QUESTION. HOW DO THEY DETERMINE WHICH CALLS ARE MENTAL HEALTH CALLS? YES. UM, SO, UM, I'LL ASK OUR, UH, OUR REPRESENTATIVE FROM DPD TO SPEAK TO ELABORATE IF NEEDED. UM, SO WHEN A CALL COMES INTO THE NINE ONE, UH, DISPATCH CENTER, THEY'LL ASK, UM, IF THE CALL IS, UH, LIKE WHAT'S THE EMERGENCY? AND SO THERE ARE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE IS QUESTIONS THAT THEY WILL ASK. UM, THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A SCRIPT PER SE. UM, AND SOMETIMES, UM, THE CALLERS WILL INDICATE THAT THERE, YOU KNOW, IS A MENTAL HEALTH NEED OR THERE'S SOME TYPE OF MEDICATION INVOLVED. UM, BUT JUST A, A LINE OF SCREENING, I BELIEVE THAT THEY USED TO INDICATE IF IT'S, UM, A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUE. BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC SCRIPT THAT'S USED. YEAH. THANK YOU. THIS IS JUDGE LANDER, UM, DISTRICT EIGHT. SO THE PERSON WHO TAKES THE CALL INITIALLY IS THE PERSON WHO MAKES A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER RIGHT CARE SHOULD BE, UH, IMPLEMENTED. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY? SAY NO. SO IN THE 9 1 1 DISPATCH CENTER, THERE IS THE ONE SIDE OF THE CALL CENTER THAT IS, IS MADE UP OF THE CALL TAKERS. SO THEY ARE THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE INITIALLY SPEAKING WITH AND THEY ARE DOCUMENTING IN THE CAD SYSTEM AND NOTATING LIKE WHAT IS BEING SAID AND WHAT THE SITUATION IS. UM, IT THEN IS TRANSFERRED TO OUR DISPATCH CENTER WHO THEN CAN TELL YOU IF A RIGHT CARE TEAM IS AVAILABLE [00:45:01] AND OR, UM, UH, DETERMINE LIKE WHICH CONFIRMS WHICH CALL TYPE IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THAT INCIDENT. AND SERGEANT PEREZ, DID YOU WANNA ELABORATE ON THAT? COME SPEAK ON THAT. THANK YOU. IF POSSIBLE, UH, COMING DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING ONLINE THAT WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. HELLO? YES. UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UM, SERGEANT JACOB PEREZ AGAIN. UM, YES, SO THE, THE, UH, THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTORS INVOLVED ON HOW THE CALL SIGNAL IS DETERMINED. OF COURSE, IT STARTS WITH THE NINE ONE CALL TAKE RECEIVING THE CALL, AND SOMETIMES THERE'S SPOT ON WITH THEIR ASSESSMENT OF THE CALL BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE HEARING FROM THE CALLER. THEY, UH, THEY, UH, WILL SIGNAL THE CALL DIRECTLY AS A, UH, CIT OF 46, WHICH IS, UH, THE MENTAL, THE MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCY. OR THEY MIGHT SIGNAL IT AS A DISTURBANCE BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE HEARING FROM THE, THE CALL TAKER. AND ONCE IT'S PASSED OVER TO DISPATCH, THEY MIGHT, UH, UH, UM, GATHER MORE INFORMATION BASED ON THE CALL HISTORY THAT'S DOCUMENTED. HEY, WE'VE BEEN IN THIS LOCATION MULTIPLE TIMES FOR MENTAL HEALTH, OR WE'VE BEEN TO THIS LOCATION FOR, FOR A, UM, UM, A VARIETY OF REASONS. AND NOW A CALLBACK CAN BE DONE FROM EITHER A PATROL OFFICER OR A RIGHT CARE OFFICER OR A SUPERVISOR DOWN AT DISPATCH TO DIG INTO THE CALL LITTLE MORE. AND WE MIGHT NOW DETERMINE THAT THIS IS NOT A, JUST A MAJOR DISTURBANCE, IT'S ACTUALLY A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. AND CAN WE GET THE RIGHT CARE TEAM TO GET OUT THERE AND ASSIST WITH IT. LET ME FOLLOW UP ON MY QUESTION. YES. UM, WHAT KIND OF TIME ARE WE LOOKING AT FROM THE TIME THAT, UH, THE CALL COMES IN TO THE TIME THAT YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT IT'S RIGHT, CARE AND DISPATCH ON AVERAGE? OOF. SO THE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S A RIGHT CARE RELATED CALL, UH, SOMETIMES IT'S IMMEDIATE. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE CALLER, THE CALL TAKER, I'M SORRY, THE CALLER KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED. THEY KNOW THEY NEED THE RIGHTCARE TEAM. AND BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE DPD AND THE RIGHTCARE TEAM, THEY KNOW, HEY, MY, MY SUCH AND STRESS, MY FAMILY MEMBER, MY LOVED ONE IS HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH EPISODE. CAN I PLEASE GET THE RIGHT CARE TEAM OUT HERE? AND IT, IT'S INSTANT. SO IT, IT, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS, A LOT OF THE, THE, THE, UH, KNOWLEDGE OF THE TEAM HAS SPREAD PRETTY QUICKLY AND, AND AMONGST OUR CITIZENS. SO A LOT OF TIMES THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED AND THEY REQUEST A TEAM IMMEDIATELY. SO IT'S, THERE'S NO DELAY WHATSOEVER. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13. JUST A COUPLE, EXCUSE ME, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THIS SOUNDS LIKE A MULTI, UM, DISCIPLINARY, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, UNIT. YES. WHO IS THE ULTIMATE PERSON IN CHARGE? IS IT THE LIEUTENANT THAT STOOD UP EARLIER OR SOMEONE ELSE? SO THE WRI CARE UNIT IS MANAGED UNDER THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE. AND OUR OFFICE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVERSIGHT. UM, AND SO MY JOB IS TO COORDINATE, UH, MANAGE THE, THE UNIT, UM, WITH EACH DEPARTMENT. SO EACH DEPARTMENT HAS A EQUAL PARTNERSHIP IN THE, IN THE UNIT. AND THEN OUR DEPARTMENT ACTS AS OVERSIGHT. ARE, ARE YOU, DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF PART OF DPD OR INDEPENDENT OF IT? WE'RE INDEPENDENT. WE'RE A SEPARATE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, IT SOUNDED LIKE TO ME, IF RIGHTCARE WENT OUT THERE WOULD BE IN ONE CAR, THE POLICE OFFICER, THE PARAMEDIC, AND THE SOCIAL WORKER. BUT THEN I THOUGHT, YES, SIR. I HEARD YOU SAY THERE WOULD ALSO BE ADDITIONAL POLICE PERSONNEL. IS THAT THE PROTOCOL? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SO DEPENDING ON THE CALL TYPE, ANOTHER POLICE ELEMENT. SO IT WOULD BE THE, THE, THE RIGHT CARE TEAM IN ONE VEHICLE AND ANOTHER PATROL CAR AND ANOTHER OFFICER MOST FOR MOST FOR SAFE, FOR SAFETY PRECAUTIONS. THE RIGHT CARE UNIT ONLY HAS ONE, ONE OFFICER ASSIGNED. RIGHT. SO THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICER IS THEREFORE ADDITIONAL SECURITY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. MS. KING, ONE MORE FOLLOW UP QUESTION. YOU, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS ARE LEARNING ABOUT THE RIGHT CARE TEAM. HOW IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOUR COLLEAGUES, HOW ARE THEY LEARNING ABOUT YOUR TEAM AND YOUR ROLE? DO YOU ALL TRAIN YOUR FELLOW OFFICERS? UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AND ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE, UH, COOPERATING WITH THE POLICE ON THIS. SO I WILL SAY, UM, LIKE BEING HERE SINCE THE ESTABLISHED, SINCE 2020, SINCE WE ESTABLISHED AND BECAME A FULL CITYWIDE, UM, UNIT, UM, IT'S TAKEN TIME AND WORK, UH, AND PATIENCE TO HAVE OUR TEAMS AS THEY'VE GROWN TO GET OUT AND EDUCATE, SOCIALIZE, AND TRAIN WITH PATROL. UH, AND SO OUR TEAMS, WE [00:50:01] ATTEND, UH, DETAILS AT THE EACH, EACH DIVISIONS. UM, ALSO, UH, OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM TAKES TURNS IN ATTENDING, UM, UH, THE ACADEMY TO TALK ABOUT OUR PROGRAM. AND SO AT DIFFERENT LEVELS WE TRY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET AS MUCH EDUCATION ACROSS THE BOARD AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO, UM, THE WRIGHT CARE TEAM. I'M, I'M GLAD WE HAVE, UH, THIS IN PLACE. I GOT TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH THE, UH, NORTHWEST WRIGHT CARE TEAM. I DON'T KNOW, A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS AGO. UH, I DIDN'T KNOW IT EXISTS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I JUST HAPPENED TO STUMBLE UP ON IT. UM, BECAUSE I HAVE NPOS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN THAT, UH, USED TO BE AN NPO OFFICER JACKSON WAS ACTUALLY DRIVING THE VEHICLE. AND I WAS CURIOUS AS TO THIS BLACK SUV WITH BLACK WINDOWS, WHO IT WAS. AND, AND WHEN I APPROACHED IT, HE ROLLED HIS WINDOW DOWN. I SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, THEN IT WENT ON FROM THERE. BUT AGAIN, I, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH HIM. UM, IT IS A, IT IS A GREAT IDEA, UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN A MENTAL CRISIS NEED SOMEONE THAT IS TRAINED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH. AND WHEN I LOOKED AT YOUR REPORT AND I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S, YOU SAY SEVEN PRIMARY TEAMS TO COVER DALLAS AND I LOOK AT YOUR NUMBERS AND , THAT'S A LOT. WE NEED TO FIND THE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GROW THAT BECAUSE IT, IT'S, IT'S NEEDED. AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE OF DALLAS IS GOING TO BE NEEDED EVEN MORE. UM, I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, INTOXICATION IS, IS ON WHAT LEVEL IS INTOXICATION? AND I DON'T, WHEN I SAY INTOXICATION IT, IT CAN COVER A WHOLE RANGE OF THINGS CONSIDERED A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. AND HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS OF THE UNSHELTERED? AND JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE OR DO YOU KNOW THE PERCENTAGE THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE THEM IN OR TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE? INTOXICATION? YES. SO IN, IN REGARDS TO THE INTOXICATION, IT, UM, IT, UM, DEPENDS ON ONE, THE SUBSTANCE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, INTOXICATION ON ALCOHOL VERSUS INTOXICATION ON SOMEONE THAT WE SUSPECT IS ON, YOU KNOW, UM, UM, UM, PCP, YOU KNOW, ARE GONNA BE HANDLED DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT. YOU KNOW, UM, IN, IN GENERAL WHEN WE HAVE SUBJECTS THAT ARE INTOXICATED, OUR CLINICIANS CAN NOW NO LONGER DO A PROPER ASSESSMENT. SO AT THAT POINT, THE TEAM, THE FUNCTION OF THE TEAM, WHICH IS TO HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH ASSESSMENT DONE, ISN'T GONNA BE, UH, UH, ABLE TO, TO FULLY ACCOMPLISH THAT. SO OUR OFFICER WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT THE BEST RESULT FOR THAT, WHAT THE BEST TREATMENT FOR THAT PERSON WOULD BE. AND UH, SOMETIMES IT'S, UH, A GO TO THE HOSPITAL IN AN AMBULANCE BECAUSE THEIR HEART RATE OR THEIR VITALS ARE OUT OF CONTROL AND NOW THEY NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SIMPLY, UH, INTOXICATED ON ALCOHOL AND THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN TO A, UH, UH, DEFLECTION CENTER. SO THE SUBSTANCE PLAYS PLAYS A ROLE, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR COGNITIVE ABILITY TO COMPLETE AN ASSESSMENT AT THAT TIME WITH OUR CLINICIANS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND, AND IN THE INFORMATION THAT WE GATHER IN EACH ONE OF OUR DISTRICTS, WE TRY TO COLLECT AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN TO SEPARATE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR DISTRICT. AND I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR REPORT. IS THERE A WAY, FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU HANDLE THE OPERATIONS SIDE OF THINK. IS IT A WAY TO BREAK THAT REPORT DOWN TO WHERE WE KNOW THESE BY DISTRICT? 'CAUSE I'M DISTRICT TWO AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS FOR DISTRICT TWO ARE. YES, AND I BELIEVE THERE, THERE IS A MENTAL HEALTH DASHBOARD UNDER, UM, THE DALLAS PD WEBSITE. I'M NOT CERTAIN IF IT'S MADE PUBLIC, I BELIEVE IT IS. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND POLICE DIVISION. OKAY. MAYBE YOU CAN GET WHAT OUR DIRECTOR AND, AND, AND MAYBE FIGURE OUT A WAY AND THE LEGALITIES OF THAT BEING ABLE TO BE SHARED WITH THE BOARD. IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL. ABSOLUTELY. BUT AGAIN, ABSOLUTELY. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU. RIGHTCARE IS A WONDERFUL DEAL. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE A FEW, UH, UH, YOU MENTIONED THERE'S SEVEN TOTAL UNITS [00:55:01] IN THE CITY. THERE'S 18 TEAMS. AND SO, UM, DURING OUR MORNING OR DAY SHIFT, THERE ARE SEVEN TEAMS REPRESENTED. SO THERE'S SEVEN POLICE DIVISIONS AND THERE'S ONE TEAM IN EACH DIVISION. AND DURING OUR AFTERNOON HOURS, WE HAVE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, SEVEN TEAMS. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO ROVING TEAMS THAT ACT AS SUPPORT TEAMS, UM, IN THE E IN THE AFTERNOONS. UM, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO OVERNIGHT TEAMS. SO I GUESS, UH, AT A, AT A GIVING MOMENT, THERE'S SEVEN AVAILABLE TEAMS. YES. AND THAT THOSE TEAMS ROTATE BASED ON THE, THE HOUR OF THE DAY AND THE SHIFTS. GOT IT. AND TO A TOTAL OF 18. BUT YES, IN A GIVEN MOMENT, THERE'S SEVEN AT A TIME. YES. AND A CITY AS BIG AS DALLAS, HOW MANY TEAMS DO YOU THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, UH, FOR THE RIGHT CARE TEAMS TO, TO BE AT? IT SAYS 51% OF ALL BEHAVIORAL CALLS IF WE WERE TO BE AT 100%. UM, HOW MANY TEAMS DO YOU ANTICIPATE WOULD BE NEEDED FOR A CITY THE SIZE OF DALLAS? I THINK RIGHT NOW WITH 18 TEAMS, I THINK WE ARE ACTUALLY, UM, DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB IN RESPONDING. I THINK RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BE MORE STRATEGIC IN INCREASING THAT NUMBER WITH THE NUMBER OF TEAMS THAT WE HAVE. UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON A FEW INTERNAL PROJECTS WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND SCREENING CALLS AND PROPERLY ALLOCATING CALLS. UM, AND SO I I, I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT WE ARE DOING WELL WITH THE NUMBER THAT WE HAVE. UM, BUT WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ARE STRATEGIC WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. AND SO FAR THE DATA HAS SHOWN THAT THIS HAS, UM, DECREASED ARRESTS. YES. UH, A P ARREST. YES. YES, SIR. AND HAS THE DATA SHOWN THAT IT'S, UH, DECREASED ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, USE OF FORCE AGAINST PEOPLE, POLICE GOING INTO CALLS? HAS THERE BEEN ANY DATA THAT THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT AS WELL? I BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT DATA. UM, I GUESS HOW IT CORRELATES TO MENTAL HEALTH, I'M NOT CERTAIN JUST OFF THE TOP, BUT THERE IS, UM, I'M SURE THERE IS A CORRELATION, YOU KNOW, BY HAVING THESE TEAMS, UM, RESPOND TO CALLS THAT WE ARE DECREASING, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVE OUTCOMES FOR THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE. YES. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. I'D BE CURIOUS, UH, INDIVIDUAL FROM PARKLAND HOSPITAL, UH, YOU HAVE A TEAM OF SOCIAL WORKERS. TELL US ABOUT THE TRAINING THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I'M, UM, CURIOUS THE TRAININGS THEY, THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO BE IN A POLICE CAR, , AND UH, WHAT DO YOU LOOK FOR A PART OF YOUR TEAM? YEAH, THANK YOU AGAIN, MY NAME'S CURTIS YOUNG. I'M SENIOR DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL WORK FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AT PARKLAND. UM, AND I'VE BEEN WITH THE PROGRAM SINCE IT'S INCEPTION. UM, AND SO ALL THE SOCIAL WORKERS ARE LICENSED. SO THEY EITHER HAVE A LICENSED MASTER'S IN SOCIAL WORK OR THEY HAVE A LICENSED, UH, CLINICAL SOCIAL WORK, UH, DEGREE. SO, UM, SO AT THE VERY MINIMUM LEVEL, THEY'RE THEIR MASTER'S PREPARED. UM, AND ALL OF THEM HAVE MENTAL HEALTH BACKGROUNDS. SO, UM, SO IT'S A MIX OF THOSE TWO LICENSURE. UM, I WILL SAY THAT FROM THE MENTAL HEALTH PERSPECTIVE, WHEN YOU HAVE AN LCSW, THAT'S A THERAPIST, THAT IS SOMEBODY WHO CAN BILL FOR BILL INSURANCE AND ACTUALLY BE DOING THERAPY WITH SOMEBODY. SO THEY'RE VERY COMPETENT PEOPLE. A LOT OF THEM HAVE WORKED UP AT, AT BIG PARKLAND AND THE PSYCH ER, UM, OR THE INPATIENT PSYCH UNIT THERE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT MENTAL HEALTH BACKGROUND IN TERMS OF THE TRAINING THAT THEY GO THROUGH FOR BEING IN THE CAR. UM, THEY, THEY GO THROUGH EIGHT HOURS OF, UH, IT'S A DEESCALATION TRAINING EVERY YEAR THAT WE REQUIRE ALL OF OUR STAFF TO GO THROUGH. THAT'S CALLED SAMA, SARTORIAL ALTERNATIVES TO MANAGING AGGRESSION. UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAIN DEESCALATION PORTION OF IT. BUT THEN THERE WAS ALSO, UM, WE HAD, WE HAD THEIR ORIENTATION, IT WAS A THREE DAY KIND OF REQUIRED ORIENTATION WHERE THEY GO OVER THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES, UM, AND KIND OF THE, THE, THE PRACTICES AND POLICIES OF THE PROGRAM. A LOT OF 'EM HAVE GONE THROUGH THE, THE, THE OTHER TRAININGS THAT THE POLICE OFFICERS, UH, PROVIDE THE KIND OF THE DAY IN THE LIFE KIND OF, OR I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED EXACTLY, CRISIS INTERVENTION. CRISIS INTERVENTION, OKAY. YEAH. THAT KINDA HELP PREPARE THEM FOR THAT KIND OF REAL LIFE OR KIND OF REAL INTERACTIONS, UH, IN RESPONDING TO A 9 1 1 CALL. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. SO YOU HAVE, THERE'S 18, I GUESS FROM YOUR, FROM PARKLAND THAT, THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. EXCELLENT. UH, CHAIRMAN. YES. MS. WALKMAN, I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU MM-HMM . SO, UM, I THINK WE KNOW THAT THIS TYPE OF A SITUATION THAT YOUR GROUP WOULD BE RESPONDING TO OFTEN INVOLVES FAMILY MEMBERS. MM-HMM . ARE OR SIGNIFICANT OTHERS. AND WHAT IS THE FOLLOW UP? WHAT KIND OF, UM, CONTINUITY OF CARE IS PROVIDED FOR THAT FAMILY MEMBER? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE PERSON WHO'S BEING REPORTED TO 9 1 1, EVENTUALLY WE'LL BE BACK INVOLVED WITH. [01:00:01] ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD THERE. YOU KNOW THAT A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF FOLKS WITH A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS, THEIR, THEIR KIND OF LIFELINE IS THEIR FAMILY MEMBER OR THEIR SIGNIFICANT OTHER. AND SO, UM, HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE FOLKS, SUPPORTING THEM IS A BIG PART OF WHAT W RIGHTCARE DOES TOO. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE, THE INDIVIDUAL PATIENT, IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE FAMILY UNIT, UM, THAT'S THERE. 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA EVENTUALLY, IF THEY'RE LEAVING THE HOME AT THAT MOMENT, THEY'RE GONNA BE RETURNING TO IT EVENTUALLY. AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THESE PATIENTS, THEY, THEY MIGHT NOT MEET THAT CRITERIA FOR EMERGENCY DETENTION AT THAT MOMENT, BUT THERE'S CONCERN THAT THE RIGHT CARE TEAM HAS. AND SO, SO YOU KNOW, THEY WON'T TAKE THEM IN THAT, IN THAT TIME, BUT THEY'LL OFFER, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTARILY, CAN WE GO TAKE YOU TO SEE A DOCTOR? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH FOLKS LIKE METROCARE AND CHILD AND FAMILY GUIDANCE CENTER AND IPS, UH, SOUTHERN AREA BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. THEY ALL LET US COME IN SAME DAY TO SEE A DOCTOR. THEY PRIORITIZE RIGHT. CARE PATIENTS. SO THOSE PARTNERSHIPS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR THE FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY CAN SEE HOW THAT, THAT WORKS AND SEE THAT OKAY, I DON'T JUST HAVE TO TAKE 'EM TO AN ER, UM, I CAN TAKE THEM TO THIS CLINIC AND, AND WE JUST STAY CONNECTED WITH THAT CLINIC. SO IT'S, IT'S EDUCATION, BUT IT'S ALSO SUPPORT. YEAH. MM-HMM . YOU'RE WELCOME. CHAIR. UM, JUST A MATTER OF CURIOSITY, HAS ANY RIDE CARE MEMBER BEEN INJURED WHEN THEY WENT OUT ON A CALL? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW. YEAH. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE CAR ACCIDENTS. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT ONCE YOU GET TO THE SCENE BY A PERSON, A PATIENT. I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOT, FORTUNATELY YEAH, FORTUNATELY WE'VE GOT, WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD, WHEN YOU START WORKING WITH THE SAME PEOPLE, UM, AND YOU KIND OF BUILD THAT COHESION IN THE TEAM. THE, THIS IS THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE, WHEN WE BUILT IT, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GET SO COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH YOUR PARTNERS THAT ARE IN THE CAR, THAT YOU CAN EVEN LIKE HAVE A HAND SIGNAL THAT KIND OF INDICATES, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I NEED YOU TO BE, COME UP HERE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER AND, AND WITH ME WHILE I'M TALKING TO THIS PERSON, OR I NEED TO BACK UP A LITTLE BIT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE, LIKE SAFETY AWARENESS AND, UM, SPATIAL KIND OF, AND EACH YEAR WE, UM, CONDUCT A REALITY BASED TRAINING HOW THAT DALLAS, UM, DPD ACADEMY WHERE THEY GO IN AND THEY PRACTICE VARIOUS SCENARIOS OF WHAT IFS. YOU KNOW, WHAT IF THERE'S A DISTURBANCE IN THE CAR WHILE, UH, THE TEAM IS IN TRANSPORT. WHAT IF YOU'RE IN A HOME AND YOU, WE DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT THERE WAS A WEAPON, BUT THEN WE DO UNEXPECTEDLY. SO WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO KINDA ACT OUT ALL THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND SCENARIOS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN. UM, WE TRY TO DO THAT TRAINING TWICE A YEAR. LET ME FOLLOW UP. UM, WHAT DO YOU ALL DO AFTER THE FACT AFTER YOU'VE BEEN CALLED OUT, UM, TO, DO YOU FOLLOW UP AND DO REPORTS ON THE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU'VE BEEN CALLED OUT FOR OR WHAT? SO DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCE, THERE IS, AS I MENTIONED, ONE ADDITIONAL FOLLOW UP THAT THE TEAM WILL COME BACK, WE SAY, I THINK 24 TO 72 HOURS LATER TO, UM, ENSURE THAT THE CONNECTION WAS MADE OR THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON IS ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH RESOURCES THAT WERE REFERRED. UH, AND THEN ANYTHING BEYOND THAT, WE, AGAIN, PARTNER WITH OUR, UM, PARTNERS, THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM, WHICH IS THE CIVILIAN, THE CIVILIAN TEAM HERE AT THE CITY. UM, WE WORKED OUT A, A REALLY GOOD WORKFLOW SYSTEM THAT IF THERE'S A SITUATIONS WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SOCIAL WORKERS ARE A SITUATION MAY BE TURNING INTO LIKE A CASE MANAGEMENT OR LIKE A LONGER TERM, UM, THERE'S A LONGER TERM NEED, THE OTHER CIVILIAN TEAMS OR PARTNERS CAN STEP IN TO KIND OF, UM, HELP THE RESIDENT IN NEED. UM, BUT LIKE HE SAID, WE RELY HEAVILY ON OUR PARTNERS AS WE WANNA KEEP RIGHT CARE UP AND READILY AVAILABLE FOR CALL ANSWERING WHEN NEEDED. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A, UM, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. IT, IT, IT JUST DAWNED ON ME WHEN YOU WERE MENTIONING THE PARTNERSHIPS YOU HAD WHEN YOU MENTIONED METROCARE MM-HMM . YES. AND AS SOMEONE WHO'S A PARTNER IN AN MHMR AND ONE OF MY BIGGEST CLIENTS IS A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH COMPANY, ARE YOUR, I DON'T KNOW, THEY'RE NOT CALLED SOCIAL WORKERS. THE, THE, THE, UM, UM, THE CASE MANAGER, MEDICAL, THE CASE MANAGERS MM-HMM . CASE MANAGER. SO ARE THEY CROSS CHAIN, CROSS TRAINED TO HANDLE CHILDREN? BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU GO OUT AND SEE, UM, ADULTS, BUT A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE CHILDREN AND CHILDREN REQUIRE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CARE. SO ARE THEY CROSS TRAINED TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT, AND WILL THEY GO TO THE SCHOOLS TO HANDLE THAT? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. THAT'S A, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE ACTUALLY ARE AN ADULT ONLY PROGRAM RIGHT NOW. SO WE ARE WORKING TO WHAT WE [01:05:01] WOULD LIKE TO START SEEING ADOLESCENTS, UM, EVENTUALLY. UM, WE DO HAVE SOME GREAT FOLKS ON OUR STAFF WHO HAVE WORKED FOR SCHOOLS WHO HAVE WORKED WITH, UH, CPS AND CHILD PLACING AGENCIES WHO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE, UM, IN ASSESSING RISK FOR SUICIDE FOR YOUTH. AND THAT YOU ARE VERY CORRECT THAT THAT IS A VERY DIFFERENT ASSESSMENT FOR YOUTH THAN IT IS FOR AN ADULT. ABSOLUTELY. AND SO WE ARE ABSOLUTELY, AS WE LOOK AT EXPANDING THE PROGRAM, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THERE'S COMPETENCY THERE. UM, AND SO YEAH, WE WOULD LIKELY START WITH A PILOT OF SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES WITH FOLKS THAT WE KNOW ARE COMPETENT IN THAT KIND OF AN ASSESSMENT. OKAY. SO IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE DOING NOW OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE WORKING ON TO COME WE CURRENTLY ARE AN ADULT. WE ONLY SERVICE ADULTS CURRENTLY. OKAY. BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO AND, UM, ARE HOPING TO SOON PILOT. OKAY. SO WHAT IF YOU GET A CALL TO TOMORROW FOR A CHILD? RIGHT HERE CANNOT, UH, UH, SERVE THE INDIVIDUAL, BUT WE HAVE PARTNERS THAT CAN, THE CRISIS INTERVENTION UNIT THAT I MENTIONED, THEY, UM, WE HAVE STAFF HERE AT THE CITY WHO HAVE EXPERTISE AND HAVE, UM, EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH CPS AND OTHER, UM, NON, YOU KNOW, GROUPS, UM, WITHIN THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. UM, SO WE RELY AGAIN ON THOSE PARTNERS, UH, TO, TO WORK WITH YOUTH CURRENTLY, BUT OUR HOPE IS TO EXPAND OUR SERVICE. SO RIGHT NOW YOU WOULD JUST CALL THE CASE WORKER AND SAY, HEY, YOU CORRECT A PARTNER? YES. OKAY. I GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, HELLO. DISTRICT SIX, DERRICK GRAM SOMETHING AS, AS A TEACHER, THAT THAT MAY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP TOO, BUT ALSO YOU SAID SOME, I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT PRIORITY. SO IF YOU HAVE 17 AND SAY ALL OF THEM ARE OUT DOING SOMETHING, AND THIS PARTICULAR CASE, YOU'VE WENT OUT THERE MEN MULTIPLE TIMES WITH THIS PARTICULAR PERSON THAT'S HAVING A MENTAL MELTDOWN, AND THE, THE PERSON THAT HE NORMALLY RESPONDS TO IS AT ANOTHER CA. DO YOU GUYS STOP WHAT HE'S DOING OVER THERE AND BRING HIM OVER THERE? OR LIKE, OR LIKE, OR IS IT TAYLOR, I GUESS THE WORD ALMOST TAYLOR MADE, LIKE HE ONLY RESPONDS TO OFFICER SOANDSO OR CASEWORKER SOANDSO. WILL HE BE PULLED TO SAY, OKAY, LET ME GO AND CALM THIS PERSON DOWN AND, AND GET HIM BETTER RESULT? DOES THAT HAPPEN? THE, THE TEAMS CAN'T COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER. FOR EXAMPLE, IF OUR CHANNEL THREE TEAM IS ON A CALL AND A FAMILY IS FAMILIAR WITH OUR CHANNEL SEVEN OFFICER FOR, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY CAN COMMUNICATE VIA MESSAGES OR PHONE CALLS TO, HEY, CAN YOU COME OUT WITH HELP OUT WITH THIS CALL? THEY'RE REQUESTING YOU SPECIFICALLY THAT PERSON, THAT OFFICER HAS A, A GOOD RAPPORT, THEN, THEN YES, THEY COULD ABSOLUTELY JUMP ON OVER AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT OR, OR TAKE THE CALL OVER. AND NOW THAT THAT CHANNEL THREE TEAM WILL GO TAKE A DIFFERENT CALL. OH, NICE. AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE FOLKS OUT THERE THAT WE WORK WITH THAT, THAT WE SEE ON A, ON SUCH A, A REGULAR BASIS THAT THE TEAMS KNOW THEM VERY WELL AND THEY'VE BUILT A GOOD RAPPORT WITH THEM. SO, YEAH. YES. UH, WRAPPING UP HERE, BUT MS. KING, I'M SO SORRY. I HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS. WHAT IS TWO QUESTIONS A PAL? WHAT DOES THAT STAND FOR? AND TWO, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE HUMANS, THE HUMAN, THE SERVICE TO PEOPLE IS AMAZING, BUT YOU'RE ALSO SAVING A LOT OF RESOURCES, UM, FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY BY KEEPING 149 PEOPLE A MONTH OUT OF JAIL. I MEAN, THE COST SAVINGS, UM, IF WE WANNA BE VERY, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED ON BLACK AND WHITE, THAT'S ALSO HUGE. UM, IT, SO I JUST THINK THAT'S REMARKABLE. WHAT DOES AAL MEAN? AAL IS AN ACRONYM FOR APPREHENSION BY A PEACE OFFICER WITHOUT A WARRANT. SO IF SOMEONE'S IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND THEY'RE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES, BUT THERE'S NO OFFENSE, THEY HAVEN'T COMMITTED A CRIME, BUT THIS PERSON NEEDS MENTAL HEALTH, WE NOW TAKE, TAKE THEM TO A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY FOR AN ASSESSMENT, UH, UM, AGAINST THEIR WILL. YES. ALRIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE VERY CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING. WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. MAYBE WE CAN HAVE YOU BACK AT ANOTHER TIME, ESPECIALLY AS YOU IN ROLE INTO NEW INITIATIVES. UH, SO I WAS, I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW. I THOUGHT THAT THE WRIGHT CARE WAS UNDER THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S A SEPARATE UNIT. AND I GUESS, UH, WHO, WHO UNDER THE ORG CHART DO YOU REPORT TO? THE CITY MANAGER OR THE, UH, MR. ARTIS, WHO, WHO, WHO IS, UH, I GUESS, UH, KEVIN O ORG CHART. KEVIN ODIN OUR DIRECTOR, AND HE'S HERE. UH, AND SO YES, OUR DEPARTMENT IS THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE. OKAY. W RIGHT. CARE SERVES UNDER THE CRISIS RESPONSE DIVISION WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT. OKAY. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW. I, I, I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW WITH THAT TODAY. YES, SIR. I'M, I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I, I SWEAR, SWEAR. ALRIGHT. IT'S, IT'S THE LAST QUESTION. SWEAR IT. I SWEAR. IT'S, IT'S MY LAST WE PROMISE. LAST QUESTION. LAST. IT'S MY LAST QUESTION. OKAY. SO BECAUSE YOU HAVE, UM, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE YOU SEE REPEATEDLY, [01:10:02] DOES, DOES THAT, IS IT COMMUNICATED BACK TO THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WORK THAT PARTICULAR BEAT OR AREA? BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S CONTINUOUSLY HAVING A MENTAL ISSUE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A CHANCE AT SOME POINT TO WHERE AN OFFICER WHO DOESN'T KNOW HIM, DOESN'T KNOW HE HAS A, BUT DOESN'T KNOW HE IS HAVING A, A MIS A MENTAL ISSUE. BUT IF HE TYPES IN HIS INFORMATION, IT SHOWS UP, OH, THIS IS SO AND SO AND SO AND SO, AND HE'S HAVING A MENTAL ISSUE. IT, IT KIND OF HELPS WITH HOW YOU APPROACH THAT PERSON. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY. UH, IT IS COMMON FOR, UH, US TO DOCUMENT ON OUR, UH, ON OUR CAD SYSTEM, UM, LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE A FREQUENT CALLER OR LIKE YOU SAID, SOMEONE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENTLY NEEDING HELP FOR MENTAL HEALTH. AND, UM, OFFICERS WILL SEE THOSE COMMENTS ONCE, ONCE THE ADDRESS IS INPUT, IT AUTOMATICALLY GENERATES AND IT'LL GIVE A HEADS UP TO THE OFFICERS AT THAT, YOU KNOW, OF WHAT TO EXPECT. AND, UH, AT TIMES, JUST FROM FAMILIARITY IN PATROL, YOU KNOW, OFFICERS HEAR THE SAME ADDRESS, HEAR THE SAME NAME COME UP, THEY ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALREADY CALLING UP OR MESSAGING THE RIGHT CARE OFFICER, HEY, SUCH AND SUCH IS CALLING, CAN YOU GO HELP OUT? AND IF THE OFFICER, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND IF THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE, THE ROVER CAN HELP HELP OUT. OR, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, SO FORTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I HOPE I CAN SPEAK FROM THE BOARD. I KNOW I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE BOARD. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO, UH, THINK THIS IS GOOD FOR OUR CITY. I'M REALLY THANKFUL WE AS A BOARD, WERE ABLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I'M THANKFUL THAT THOSE ONLINE WERE ABLE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. UH, AND I HOPE THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO LEARN MORE, WE CAN SUPPORT THE GOOD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, WE ARE NOW ON OUR AGENDA ITEM EIGHT ON THE AGENDA. AND, UH, WE HAVE OUR PO OUR VERY OWN POLICY ANALYST, SIERRA OBAGI, UH, AND SHE WILL BE SHARING WITH US C-I-T-A-P-O-W-W, UH, DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ARREST DATA REQUEST UPDATE. AND, UH, SO, UH, BOARD THAT THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES POLICY ANALYST SIERRA OSU. WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS, AGAIN, MY NAME IS SIERRA OBASI. I'M THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT. AND I'LL BE BRIEFING YOU ON THE CIT AND AAL DPD ARREST DATA REQUEST MEMO, WHICH IS, IT WILL ESSENTIALLY REITERATE THEIR PREVIOUS PRESENTATION. DURING THE MARCH CPOB MEETING, THE BOARD ASKED THE ASKED FOR REPRESENTATIVE DATA RELATED TO THE TYPES OF MENTAL OR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH RELATED CALLS AND ARRESTS HANDLED BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, BY PATROL DIVISION OR COUNCIL DISTRICT. THESE CALLS TYPICALLY FALL UNDER THE RESPONSE OF THE RAPID INTEGRATED GROUP HEALTHCARE TEAM, WHICH IS W RIGHT CARE TEAM AND THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM, ALSO KNOWN AS CIT. I DO WANNA MAKE A CORRECTION TO THE MEMO THAT THE WRIGHT CARE TEAM CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF DPD OFFICERS, A FAILED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINICIAN AND DALLAS FIRE RESCUE PARAMEDIC. THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM IS A TEAM OF MOBILE CRISIS COORDINATORS WHO WORK IN CONDU IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DALLAS FIRE RESCUE TO PROVIDE SERVICE COORDINATION WITH WRAPAROUND MENTAL HEALTH AND SOCIAL SUPPORT SERVICES TO RESIDENTS OF DALLAS. THE CIT CALL LOG BY DIVISION DATA BETWEEN MARCH 19TH, 2023 AND MARCH 18TH, 2025 INCLUDES CENTRAL DIVISION WITH A TOTAL OF 5,888 CALLS, NORTH CENTRAL DIVISION WITH 3,141 CALLS, NORTHEAST DIVISION WITH 5,054 CALLS, NORTHWEST DIVISION WITH 3,724 CALLS, SOUTH CENTRAL DIVISION WITH 5,949 CALLS, SOUTHEAST DIVISION WITH 5,094 CALLS, SOUTHWEST DIVISION WITH 4,354 CALLS, AND A GRAND TOTAL OF 33,204 CALLS THE A PAL OR APPREHENSION BY PEACE OFFICER WITHOUT A WARRANT CALL LOG BY DIVISION DATA BY DIVISION DATA BETWEEN MARCH 19TH, 2023 AND MARCH 18TH, 2025, INCLUDE CENTRAL DIVISION WITH 1,736 CALLS, NORTH CENTRAL DIVISION WITH 1063 CALLS, NORTHEAST DIVISION WITH 1,117 CALLS NORTHWEST DIVISION WITH 1,291 CALLS SOUTH CENTRAL DIVISION WITH 1,181 [01:15:02] CALLS SOUTHEAST DIVISION WITH 965 CALLS SOUTHWEST DIVISION WITH 1,110 CALLS, AND A GRAND TOTAL OF 8,453 CALLS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. . ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THIS DOCUMENT? WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, UH, FOR THIS REPORT ON THE CIT AND THE A PAL DATA. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL, UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS A DIRECTOR'S REPORT. AND THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE DIRECTOR OF THE OCPO, MICHELLE ANDRE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. UM, SO ON MARCH, UH, 21ST, THE POLICY ANALYST AND I PARTICIPATED IN RIDEALONG AND THE CENTRAL PATROL DIVISION. THIS EXPERIENCE PROVIDED US A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION OF OUR COMMUNITY POLICE AND EFFORTS, AND THEN HELP TO FOSTER STRONGER PARTNERSHIP. UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A PROCESS OF SCHEDULING A RIDE ALONG SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT ON FRIDAY, APRIL 2ND, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT WELCOME SEVERAL OCPO STAFF MEMBERS, UM, INCLUDING ME FOR FUND REALITY BASED TRAINING, ALSO KNOWN AS RBT SESSION AT THE DALLAS POLICE ACADEMY. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT MONTH, UM, WELL, I BELIEVE IN MAY OR SO, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO OBSERVE A RBT SESSION WITH NEW RECRUITS. I'LL BE ATTENDING IMMIGRATION PANEL AT THE LULAC DISTRICT THREE CONFERENCE. THE PANEL IS SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY APRIL 12TH, UM, 11:00 AM TO 12:00 PM MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE. THIS EVENT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE INSIGHTS WITH STUDENTS FROM VARIOUS UNIVERSITIES AND YOUTH COUNCILS. IMMIGRATION IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. I'VE BEEN INVITED TO GUIDE THE DISCUSSION BASED ON MY EXPERTISE UNDER THE DIRECTION OF POLICY ANALYST SIERRA ABSU. OUR OFFICE DEVELOPED A KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, IMMIGRATION RIGHTS IN DALLAS GUIDE. THIS RESOURCE AIMS TO CLEARLY INFORM RESIDENTS OF THEIR LEGAL RIGHTS AND PROACTIVE MEASURES WHEN ENCOUNTERING, UM, IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT FEE. KEY FEATURES OF THE DOCUMENT INCLUDE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT GENERAL ORDERS, UM, 3 1 4 DASH, I MEAN.ZERO FOUR ONLINE ICE DETAINEE LOCATOR SYSTEM, UM, A CLU OF TEXAS CONTACT AND LEGAL SUPPORT INFORMATION, AND THEN ICE ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT GUIDANCE ON PROTECTIVE AREAS. AND THEN THE ENHANCEMENT LIBRARY CARD APPLICATION PROGRAM. THIS GUIDE IS INTENDED TO EMPOWER RESIDENTS WITH KNOWLEDGE AND CONNECT THEM WITH CRITICAL RESOURCES. A COPY OF THIS, UM, FLYER HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN AGENDA MATERIALS. UM, IN THE COMING MONTHS, MY FOCUS WILL BE ON DRAFTING STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURES FOR THE OFFICE AND THEN PREPARING FOR BUDGET SEASON. UM, THE CITY IS RE-IMAGINING THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS BY LAUNCHING A PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, UM, ALTERNATIVE TO TRADITIONAL, UM, BUDGETING. THIS MODEL ALLOCATES RESOURCES BASED ON HOW WELL A PROGRAM ALIGNS WITH THE CITY FOR VALUES AND COMMUNITY PRIORITIES. THE PRIORITY BASED, UM, FRAMEWORK ADVANTAGE IS FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED TO PROGRAMS RATHER THAN DEPARTMENTS. UM, INITIATIVES REFLECTS ACTIVE COMMUNITY NEEDS, ENHANCED TRANS AND ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS AND COUNCIL FEEDBACK, AND THEN PROMOTE A SPEND WITHIN YOUR NEEDS APPROACH. THE CHALLENGE, IT'S TIME CONSUMING COMPARED TO ZERO BASE BUDGETING. AND THEN, UM, ACCURATE IDENTIFICATION OF FULL PROGRAM COSTS INCLUDED INDIRECT COSTS IS ESSENTIAL. UM, UM, OUR FY 26 BUDGET SUBMISSION FOR THE OFFICE HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, UM, AND UNDER REVIEW BY THE BUDGET OFFICE, MY A HUNDRED A PLAN REPORT HAS BEEN FINALIZED AND IT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE BOARD VIA EMAIL IS ALSO PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ON THE OCPO WEBSITE UNDER THE RESOURCE SECTION. AND THEN FEEDBACK ON THIS, UM, REPORT IS WELCOME AND ENCOURAGED. UM, THIS MONTH DIRECTOR REPORT IS SHORTER THAN USUAL, UM, DUE TO TAKING VACATION. AND THEN A QUICK TURNAROUND BETWEEN MEETINGS. LOOKING AHEAD, LOOK FORWARD TO REFINING OPERATION, ENSURING, UM, STRATEGIC ALIGNMENT WITH THE CITYWIDE GOALS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTOR. I'D LIKE TO, LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS DIRECTED TOWARDS THE DIRECTOR OF THE OCPO, SEEING THAT THERE IS NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD WORK DIRECTOR AND, UM, FOR THE GOOD THAT YOU'RE DOING. AND I WILL NOW MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 10. UH, INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF, UH, WILL, UH, BRIEF US, UH, SOME INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUESTS. ITEM NUMBER 10. THANKFULLY, UH, THIS MONTH, UH, THERE ARE NO [01:20:01] CRITICAL INCIDENT BRIEFINGS, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD NEWS. AND, UM, FOR THIS MEETING, THERE ARE NO INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS, UH, TO REPORT THAT WE AS A BOARD HAVE ALREADY VOTED ON. SO THESE ARE, UH, THREE NEW CASES, UH, AND INVESTIGATOR HUFF WILL GIVE US A BRIEF, A BRIEFING OF THESE THREE CASES, AND WE AS A BOARD WILL VOTE ON WHETHER WE WOULD LIKE THE OFFICE TO CONDUCT A MORE THOROUGH INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO US AT A LATER MEETING. SO I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY BEFORE THIS ABOUT HOW THE BEST WAY TO MAKE THE MOTION. UM, AND I THINK FOR THIS MEETING, WHAT WE'LL DO IS IF WE ARE WANTING THERE TO BE AN INVESTIGATION, UM, AS IF YOU ARE WANTING THERE TO BE AN INVESTIGATION, THEN THE MOTION WILL BE MADE IN THAT REGARD. I, I MOVE THAT WE INVESTIGATE AS A BOARD. IF WE, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE IS NO GROUNDS FOR AN IN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, THEN THE MOTION WILL BE I MOVE THAT WE DO NOT, UH, CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. AND, UH, THAT WAY THERE'S A DEFINITIVE, UM, ANSWER THAT WE VOTED NOT TO OR WE VOTED TO. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO TODAY, UH, BASED ON THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES. WE MAY CHANGE THAT NEXT MEETING, BUT TODAY, WE'LL, WE'LL DO IT, UH, THIS WAY. UM, AND SO I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AT THIS TIME INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF TO SPEAK ABOUT, UM, AGENDA ITEM 10 C NI 2025 DASH 0 1 28. TIFFANY ZAHAR GUANAJUATO, THANK YOU, CHAIR. AGAIN, MY NAME IS GREG HUFF. I'M THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT. SO THE FIRST INDEPENDENT REVIEW IS FROM TIFFANY ZAHAR GUANAJUATO, AND THE COMPLAINT WAS ON JANUARY 29TH, 2025, TIFFANY ZARKO GUANAJUATO SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED BACK ON JUNE 13TH, 2024, INVOLVING HER BOYFRIEND JOHN CRENSHAW, IN WHICH SHE WAS ARRESTED. ZARKO GUANAJUATO DELAYED SUBMITTING THE COMPLAINT UNTIL THE CHARGES AGAINST HER WERE DISMISSED ON JANUARY 9TH, 2025. THE COMPLAINT INCLUDED MEDICAL RECORDS INDICATING THAT SHE HAD A BITE MARK ON HER ABDOMEN, A SCRATCH ON HER NECK, AND IT WAS UNCLEAR WHETHER STRANGULATION HAD OCCURRED. THE RECORDS ALSO NOTED A LACERATION ON HER FOREARM, WHICH SHE INDICATED WAS SELF-INFLICTED AS A WAY TO GET AWAY FROM HER BOYFRIEND. SO HARKO GUANAJUATO SUMMED UP HER COMPLAINT BY STATING THE OFFICERS FAILED TO CONDUCT AN IMPARTIAL INVESTIGATION, IGNORED CRUCIAL EVIDENCE, NEGLECTED TO DOCUMENT MY INJURIES PROPERLY, AND QUOTE, SO HARKO GUANAJUATO THEN LISTED THE BLOW POINTS IN HER COMPLAINT. UH, SHE STATED THAT OFFICERS IGNORED SIGNS THAT SHE WAS A VICTIM. SHE SAID THAT JOHN CRENSHAW ADVISED THAT ZAHAR CO GUANAJUATO WAS ON TOP OF HIM WITH A KNIFE, AND SHE ADVISED THAT, UM, THIS, IF THIS WAS TRUE, THAT HE WOULD'VE BEEN COVERED WITH BLOOD, WHICH HE WAS NOT. UH, SHE SAID THAT CRENSHAW'S VISIBLE INJURIES WERE NOT CONSISTENT WITH ZARKO GU GUANAJUATO BEING RIGHT-HANDED. SHE SAID THERE WAS AN EX EXCESSIVE POLICE RESPONSE THAT NINE OR MORE OFFICERS WERE, UM, HAD ARRIVED ON THIS DOMESTIC DISPUTE. SHE SAID THAT POLICE IGNORED MEDICAL EVIDENCE OF HER BEING STRANGLED AND BITTEN. SHE SAID THE OFFICERS ALLOWED CRENSHAW TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE WITHOUT BEING QUESTIONED ABOUT HER INCO, ABOUT HIS INCONSISTENCIES, AND THAT CRENSHAW PROVIDED A VIDEO WHICH HE CLAIMED SHOWED THE ASSAULT. BUT THE OFFICERS NEVER OBTAINED THE FULL UNEDITED VIDEO. OFFICERS IGNORED ZARKO GUANAJUATO EFFORTS TO STAY AWAY FROM CRENSHAW. SHE SAID THAT CRENSHAW LIED ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP STATUS AND OFFICERS NEVER QUESTIONED IT. OFFICERS, OFFICERS IGNORED CRENSHAW'S INCONSISTENT STATEMENTS ABOUT THE NINE ONE ONE CALL OFFICERS ALLOWED CRENSHAW TO MISLEAD THEM ABOUT THE GUN AND ZA HARKO. GUANAJUATO WAS HUMILIATED WHEN SHE HAD TO USE THE RESTROOM BAREFOOT THAT HAD URINE ALL OVER THE FLOOR. SO THAT SUMMED UP HER, HER LENGTHY COMPLAINT. UM, I REVIEWED THE POLICE REPORT AND THE POLICE REPORT, UM, SHOWED THAT ON JUNE 13TH, 2024, JOHN CRENSHAW CALLED THE POLICE AND ADVISED THAT HIS GIRLFRIEND TIFFANY, IS A HARKO. GUANAJUATO WAS CUTTING HERSELF WITH A KNIFE. WHEN POLICE ARRIVED, THEY CONTACTED CRENSHAW WHO ADVISED HE HAD BEEN ASSAULTED AND HE SHOWED OFFICERS A VIDEO OF THE ASSAULT OFFICERS CONTACTED SIR HARKO GUANAJUATO AT THE RESIDENCE AND ARRESTED HER FOR ASSAULT. THE POLICE REPORT CONTAINED A STATEMENT FROM CRENSHAW AND A DESCRIPTION OF IN INJURIES. THE POLICE REPORT DID NOT CONTAIN A STATEMENT FROM ZARKO GUANAJUATO. [01:25:02] THE OFFICER NOTED THAT HE OBSERVED FRESH CUTS ON ZARKO GUANAJUATO FOREARMS, BUT NO OTHER INJURIES WERE NOTED FOR HER. UM, I REVIEWED THE, UM, THE VIDEO EVIDENCE EVIDENCE.COM IS THE STORAGE SYSTEM FOR THE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT HANDLES THE DIGITAL MEDIA SUCH AS BODY-WORN CAMERA VIDEOS AND PHOTOGRAPHS. THERE WERE 18 PHOTOGRAPHS STORED UNDER THIS INCIDENT. NUMBER NINE OF THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS ARE OF JOHN CRENSHAW AND NINE ARE OF BLOOD. INSIDE THE APARTMENT, THERE ARE ZERO PHOTOGRAPHS OF ZARKO GUANAJUATO. UM, I REVIEWED THE BODY-WORN CAMERA. THERE WERE NUMEROUS BODY-WORN CAMERA VIDEOS, UM, AND NONE OF 'EM SHOWED ANY STATEMENTS BEING TAKEN FROM ZARKO GUANAJUATO AT THE SCENE. AND IT DID NOT SHOW ANY PHOTOGRAPHS OF HER INJURIES BEING TAKEN BY OFFICERS. THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION DID A PRELIMINARY VIEW OF THE COMPLAINT AND THEY SENT A LETTER TO ZARKO GUANAJUATO STATING, IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR POLICY, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION DOES NOT INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THE PROPOSED GUILT OR INNOCENCE OF A CASE, INCLUDING DISPUTES REGARDING AN ARREST OR CITATION. SUCH MATTERS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND THE OCPO. WE DID OUR PRELIMINARY REVIEW. UM, A HARKO GUANAJUATO SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT FOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF HER COMPLAINT. AND DURING THE PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE CASE, UM, THE OCPO DID NOT AGREE WITH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION FINDING OF NO INVESTIGATION DUE TO GUILT OR INNOCENCE. AND THIS IS BASED ON THE POLICE REPORT NOT CONTAINING A STATEMENT FROM ZAHAR CO GUANAJUATO AND THE FACT THAT NO EVIDENTIARY PHOTOGRAPHS OF ZAHAR CO GUANAJUATO WERE FOUND A FURTHER INVESTIGATION COULD REVEAL A VIOLATION OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT GENERAL ORDERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, INVESTIGATOR. I'D LIKE, UH, TO, UH, ASK, INVITE THE BOARD TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UH, TO INVESTIGATOR AT THIS TIME THAT MAY HELP US MAKE A DECISION. UH, AND THEN WHENEVER A BOARD MEMBER FEELS RIGHT, UH, TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION. THERE'LL BE SOME DISCUSSION AFTER THAT AS WELL, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT TO A VOTE. BUT AT THIS TIME, ANY QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE INVESTIGATOR? MR. YES, SIR? I HAVE A COUPLE, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU THINK IS DEFICIENT. AND WE'RE NOT DOING GUILT OR INNOCENCE. YOU'RE NOT GONNA TRY AND DECIDE IF THERE'S AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, WHO'S RIGHT OR WHO'S WRONG. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE CHARGES HAVE BEEN DISMISSED. CORRECT. SO WHAT YOU WOULD BE DOING IS BASICALLY LOOKING INTO WHETHER, OH, I THOUGHT I HAD IT ALL. HOW ABOUT NOW? GET CLOSER TO IT. GET IT. GOTCHA. I'M SORRY. WHAT YOU WOULD BE DOING WOULD BE TO JUST DETERMINE IF A THOROUGH ENOUGH INVESTIGATION WAS DONE CORRECT. TO SEE IF YOU KNOW A VIOLATION OF POLICY OCCURRED BY NOT DOING A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. OKAY. SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT YOU WOULD BE DOING IF WE VOTED FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION IS DETERMINING IF IN FACT A THOROUGH ENOUGH INVESTIGATION WAS DONE BY THE OFFICERS INVOLVED? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. UM, SO MS. WATLER, SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, DID YOU, IN YOUR PRELIMINARY, YOU KNOW, EARLY REVIEW OF THIS, WAS THERE ANYTHING POLICE REPORT OR ANYTHING THAT SAID WHY NINE OFFICERS RESPONDED? YES. UM, DURING MY PRELIMINARY VIEW, IT WAS A REPORT OF, UM, THAT SHE WAS CUTTING HERSELF WITH A KNIFE AND SHE HAD ACCESS TO A FIREARM. SO OFFICERS RESPONDED, HE WAS OUTSIDE AT THE TIME AND SHE WAS INSIDE THE APARTMENT. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET HER TO, TO COME OUT SAFELY, YOU KNOW, NOT KNOWING WHAT HER STATE OF MIND WAS. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. UM, NINE OFFICERS AND NOT ONE TOOK A PICTURE WHEN SHE CLAIMED SHE HAD BEEN HARMED. NO ONE THOUGHT IT WAS NECESSARY TO VERIFY THAT SHE HAD BEEN HARMED. UH, DURING MY REVIEW, IT, IT DID NOT APPEAR ANYONE ASKED HER, UM, IF SHE, THEY NEVER TOOK A STATEMENT FROM HER. THANK YOU. ANY MOTIONS FROM THE BOARD THIS TIME REGARDING JUDGE LANDER DISTRICT EIGHT? I MOVE THAT THE OFFICE, UH, DO A FULLER INVESTIGATION OF THIS MATTER TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A VIOLATION OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT GENERAL ORDERS LAUREN, LAUREN, GILBERT SMITH. SECOND. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION IT'S BEEN SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO A VOTE? [01:30:01] WE WILL, UH, GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL VOTE OF MEMBERS THAT ARE PRESENT, AND, UH, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, AYE. IF YOU'RE, UH, UH, IF YOU ARE NOT IN FAVOR, NAY. DISTRICT ONE AYE. DISTRICT TWO? YES. DISTRICT THREE, DISTRICT FOUR? YES. DISTRICT SIX. YAY. DISTRICT EIGHT. YAY. DISTRICT NINE, DISTRICT 10. YAY. DISTRICT 11, DISTRICT 12. YES. DISTRICT 13? YES. DISTRICT 14. YES. DISTRICT 15. YES. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY THERE WILL BE AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON THIS CASE. SURE. UH, JUST A, A REMINDER IF, UH, WHEN YOU, OR SPEAKING, IF YOU COULD EDIFY YOURSELF FOR THE MINUTES. UH, SO IT'S EASIER FOR, UH, THOSE THAT ARE DOING THE MINUTES TO KNOW WHO SAID WHAT. AND THEN ALSO, UH, JUST MAKE SURE OUR MICS ARE TURNED ON AND WE'LL DO OUR PART AS LISTENERS TOO. SOMETIMES IT'S HARD WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING TO KNOW, BUT WE'LL DO OUR PART TO LET LET YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. MR. UH, MR. HUFF. NOW I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT, UH, 10 CI UH, BERNARD, UH, PURTY. YES. ON JANUARY 10TH, 2024, BERNARD PURTY, WHO IS LEGALLY BLIND, SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT VIA BODY-WORN CAMERA. PURTY REPORTED THAT HE HAD CALLED THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR ASSISTANCE REGARDING AN ISSUE WITH HIS NEPHEW'S FRIEND. UPON ARRIVAL, OFFICER WILLIAMS EXPLAINED THAT PERTTI'S NEPHEW HAD THE RIGHT TO HAVE A FRIEND OVER. PERIE ALLEGED THAT AS HE ATTEMPTED TO WALK AWAY, OFFICER WILLIAMS GRABBED HIS ARM ACCORDING TO PERIE. OFFICER WILLIAMS THEN RAISED HIS VOICE AND YELLED, YOU DON'T PUT YOUR HANDS IN MY FACE. AFTER LETTING GO OF PERIE, OFFICER WILLIAMS DEMANDED TO SEE HIS IDENTIFICATION. PERIE ASSISTED OR ASSERTED THAT OFFICER WILLIAMS HAD NO RIGHT FOR PUTTING HIS HANDS ON HIM. I REVIEWED THE POLICE REPORT, AND THE POLICE REPORT NOTED THAT OFFICER WILLIAMS, WHO WROTE THE POLICE REPORT, STATED, UM, THAT HE WAS EXPLAINING A CIVIL MATTER MATTER TO PERT WHEN PERT POINTED HIS FINGER TOWARDS OFFICER WILLIAMS' FACE COMING WITHIN 12 TO 18 INCHES OF HIS FACE. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENED, OFFICER WILLIAMS GRABBED PERTTI'S WRIST AND TOLD HIM TO GET HIS FINGER OUT OF HIS FACE. AND THEN PERIE SCREAMED THAT HE HAD BEEN ASSAULTED AND REQUESTED A SUPERVISOR. UM, I REVIEWED THE BODY-WORN CAMERA. UM, HOPE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT ALSO. AND THE BEST, UM, VIEW SHOWED OFFICER WILLIAMS RAISING HIS VOICE TOWARDS PERIE AND PURTY PUTTING HIS HAND OUT TOWARDS OFFICER WILLIAMS. AND THEN PERIE CHANGED FROM HIM HAVING HIS PALM FACING OFFICER WILLIAMS TO POINTING HIS FINGER TOWARDS OFFICER WILLIAMS' FACE. OFFICER WILLIAMS THEN GRABS PERTTI'S WRIST AND CONTROLS THE HAND THAT WAS POINTING AT HIM. OFFICER WILLIAMS TELLS PERTY NOT TO POINT HIS FINGER IN HIS FACE AND THEN LET'S GO OF THE WRIST. SO HE HAD A HOLD OVER THE WRIST FOR ABOUT FOUR SECONDS ALTOGETHER. AND THEN I ALSO NOTED THAT, UM, THERE'S SOME BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN OFFICER WILLIAMS AND PERIE AFTER THAT. AND DURING THAT TIME, OFFICER WILLIAMS POINTS HIS FINGER IN PERTTI'S FACE AND SAYS, IF IT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE, IT'S GOOD FOR THE GANDER. THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION CONDUCTED A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO THIS INCIDENT, AND THEY CONCLUDED ON THE UNNECESSARY USE OF FORCE ALLEGATION THAT, UM, OFFICER WILLIAMS WAS EXONERATED. AND THEY CONCLUDED THAT FOR THE DISCOURTESY ALLEGATION THAT IT WAS SUSTAINED, UH, THE OCPO PRELIMINARY REVIEW. UM, DURING OUR PRELIMINARY REVIEW, WE FOUND THAT THEIR CONCLUSIONS, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS CONCLUSIONS WERE THE SAME AS OUR CONCLUSIONS THINKING. INVESTIGATOR, ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THIS CASE THAT CAN HELP US DETERMINE, UH, OUR VOTE? DAVID KITLER, DISTRICT 13, UH, ON THE CHARGE THAT WAS SUSTAINED. DO WE KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE OUTCOME WAS IN TERMS OF, YOU MEAN THE DISCIPLINE? YES. NO, I, I DO NOT KNOW THE DISCIPLINE ON THAT. AND IS THERE THE ONLY USE OF FORCE, THE FOUR SECONDS IS THAT YOU COULD SEE YES. IT'S GRABBING, UM, HIS WRIST. OKAY. HOLDING HIS WRIST. [01:35:01] ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UH, UH, UM, JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO, UM, MAYBE THE MAJOR CAN ANSWER THIS FOR ME SINCE THE, SINCE OFFICER WILLIAMS WROTE IT IN HIS POLICE REPORT. UM, I'M, I'M, I'M GRAPPLING WITH THE 12 TO 18 INCHES FINGER TOWARDS THE FACE. IS THAT, IS THAT THE ZONE TO WHERE A POLICE OFFICER FEELS HE'S BEING THREATENED OR HE NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT HE NEEDS TO INTERVENE? I'M, I'M JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, ACCORDING TO OUR, UM, WITH OUR, IN COURSE IN LINE WITH OUR TRAINING, THAT ZONE CAN BE DIFFERENT FROM EACH OFFICER DEPENDING ON THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. UM, FOR A SMALLER OFFICER, A MUCH, MUCH BIGGER CITIZEN, THAT ZONE MAY BE A LOT BIGGER. UH, FOR A BIGGER OFFICER, MUCH SMALLER CITIZEN, THAT ZONE MAY BE A LITTLE SMALLER. UM, BUT, UH, THE REACTIONARY GAP AS TO WHAT WE TRAIN IS SIX FEET. UM, WE TRY TO KEEP A SIX FOOT REACTIONARY GAP BETWEEN OURSELVES AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE CITIZEN THAT WE ARE HAVE IN CONTACT WITH. SO THAT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN THAT REACTIONARY GAP. MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MR. FREEMAN. SO OF OFFICER WILLIAMS DID NOT MAINTAIN THAT SIX FEET. HE WAS IN THE GUY'S FACE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WATCHED THE VIDEO, UM, BUT THERE WERE, THERE WERE THREE OFFICERS ON THE SCENE, AND OFFICER WILLIAMS WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS CLEARLY ESCALATING. AND WHEN, UH, MR. PERTY, UH, GOT FRUSTRATED AND HE POINTED AT HIM, UH, OFFICER WILLIAMS COMPLETELY BLEW HIS TOP, UM, IT WAS COMPLETELY UNPROFESSIONAL. UM, AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO SEE HIS SIDE OF THIS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE WERE OTHER OFFICERS ON THE SCENE, EVERYBODY ELSE, UM, MAINTAIN THEIR COOL THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE DEAL. UM, IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE THEY HAD KIND OF A, UH, TO USE A CLICHE, GOOD COP, BAD COP THING GOING ON. BUT, UM, JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF HERE, I DON'T, I, I DON'T SEE WHY WE NEED TO HAVE ANY POLICE OFFICERS ON THE FORCE, UH, THAT CAN'T MAINTAIN THEIR COMPOSURE LIKE THAT. UM, I I THOUGHT IT WAS PRETTY UNPROFESSIONAL. AND I THINK MR. PERIE HAS A CASE HERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? WELL, THAT I WOULD SAY IS, YEAH, HE DOES HAVE A CASE AND IT WAS SUSTAINED AND THE USE OF FORCE. THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE A STRETCH, BUT YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU. HE DOES HAVE A CASE AND THE POLICE RECOGNIZED IT. JUST TO CLARIFY, INVESTIGATOR HUFF, THE, UM, THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION THAT WE WOULD CONDUCT, WOULD IT BE INVESTIGATING THE USE OF FORCE ACCUSATION AND, UM, THE DISCOURTESY OR ONE OR THE OTHER? UH, WHAT WOULD WE BE INVESTIGATING AS A BOARD REGARDING THIS CASE? IT'D BE THE WHOLE INCIDENT. YEAH. SO BOTH EXCUSE DEREK GRAM, DISTRICT SIX. SO WE'RE SAYING THAT A LEGALLY BLIND PERSON, MR. GRAM, IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? YES. OKAY. WE'RE SAYING THAT A LEGALLY BLIND PERSON THAT MIGHT BE UPSET WOULD KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW CLOSE TO GET TO SOMEBODY. 'CAUSE IF HE'S BLIND, LEGALLY BLIND IN DOING THAT, THE OFFICERS SHOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT IMMEDIATELY. BUT TO REALLY HURT HIM EVEN FOR FOUR SECONDS, UM, I THINK WOULD BE WRONG BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEGALLY BLIND. HE WOULDN'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW CLOSE HE WAS TO THAT PERSON, WHETHER, BUT THE OFFICER WOULD'VE KNOWN WHAT SIX FEET IS. AND ONCE AGAIN, THE OTHER OFFICERS THERE DIDN'T GET AS ESCALATED. BUT IF HE WAS INTIMIDATED BY SOMEBODY BEING TOO CLOSE TO HIM BECAUSE HE WAS LEGALLY BLIND, THAT'S KIND LIKE IF YOU SAY, UM, UH, UNHINGED PERSON IN A SENSE. SO, YEAH. AND I GUESS WE, UH, WE DON'T KNOW, UM, WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR, OR, YOU KNOW, MAJOR, IT SAYS THAT IT WAS SUSTAINED, HIS ALLEGATION OF DISCOURTESY. IT'S PROBABLY NOT OUR KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THAT WAS HANDLED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. NOT THIS TIME, THE STILL ONGOING PART OF THE INVESTIGATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE BOARD, IF NOT, UH, IS THERE A MOTION THAT WE AS A BOARD COULD ENTERTAIN JUDGE LANDER DISTRICT EIGHT? I MOVE THAT WE DO NOT DO ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION AND WE ACCEPT THE DECISION THAT HAS BEEN MADE BY THE [01:40:01] POLICE DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY THAT, UM, THE DISCOURAGED DISCOURTESY IS SUSTAINED AND THE UNNECESSARY USE OF FORCE EXONERATED DAVID KITNER DISTRICT 13 SECOND THE MOTION. I'M SO SORRY, JUDGE. I WAS, UH, SURE, SURE. I KNOW THAT. APOLOGIZE. YOU ZONE DOUBT. UH, MY MOTION IS THAT WE, THAT THERE'D BE NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION BY THE OFFICE AND THAT WE ACCEPT THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SPECIFICALLY UNNECESSARY USE OF FORCE, EXONERATED AND DISCOURTESY. SUSTAINED. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER KITNER. ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO A VOTE? MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. UH, WHAT EXACTLY IS MR. PURDY ASKING THAT WE INVESTIGATE? JUST, I MEAN, I'M HEARING VERY VAGUELY LIKE EVERYTHING, BUT SO ID INVESTIGATED, THEY CAME TO A CONCLUSION. UH, THEY FOUND THE OFFICER AT FAULT FOR AT LEAST A PORTION OF WHAT HAPPENED. WHAT IS, DO WE KNOW? WHAT, WHAT ARE WE BEING ASKED TO INVESTIGATE? I'M SORRY. ARE YOU ASKING LIKE, WHAT DID, UH, MR. PURDY, HE FILED A COMPLAINT WITH OCPO. HE'S UNSATISFIED WITH WHAT HAPPENED. WHAT, SO IF IAD CAME AND, AND SAID, YEAH, WE SUSTAINED THAT THE OFFICER WAS DISCOURTEOUS, WHAT DOES HE, WHAT IS HIS COMPLAINT TO OCPO ABOUT? IS IT JUST THE OTHER HALF OF IT? THE, THE USE OF FORCE? CORRECT. YEAH. HE SUMMED UP, HE, HE ASSERTED THAT OFFICER WILLIAMS HAD NO RIGHT FOR PUTTING HIS HANDS ON HIM. OKAY. SO IT'S, SO WE'RE ONLY BEING ASKED TO INVESTIGATE THE USE OF FORCE ASPECT OF WHAT HAPPENED. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT HE IS. OKAY. REQUESTING ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO A VOTE? YES, MS. KING? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. WHEN SOMEONE, IS IT SUSTAINED THAT THEY WERE DISCOURTEOUS? UM, WHAT KIND OF TRAINING DO THEY RECEIVE? OR IS THERE A NOTE IN THEIR FILE OR HOW IS THAT HANDLED BY THEIR SUPERVISING OFFICER? ALL THOSE THINGS CAN BE, UM, CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED DEPENDING UPON WHAT LEVEL OF DISCOURTEOUS IT IS. AND DEPENDING UPON WHAT THEIR CHAIN OF COMMAND SEES FIT TO TAKE CARE OF THE, THE ISSUE, UH, IT MAY BE ONE, TWO OR ALL THOSE THINGS, OR, OR MAY BE JUST ONE, ONE OF THOSE THINGS. SO, UH, IT'S NOT ANY STANDARD FOR, UH, DISCOURTEOUS. THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN TO YOU. IT'S DISPENSE ON EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE. OKAY. UH, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION. IT'S BEEN SECONDED. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING THERE'S NONE. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE FOR THIS AS WELL. AND, UH, JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD, THIS IS FOR NO INVESTIGATION. SO IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF, UH, NO INVESTIGATION, YES. IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE AN INVESTIGATION NO. AND WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. UH, DISTRICT ONE, ONE. NO. NO. DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT FOUR? YES. YES. DISTRICT SIX? YES. YES. DISTRICT SEVEN OR DISTRICT EIGHT? YES. DISTRICT 10? YES. DISTRICT 11? YES. OH, UH, DISTRICT THREE. SORRY. CHONG, I DIDN'T SEE YOU. DISTRICT THREE. YES. YES. DISTRICT 12. YES. DISTRICT 13? YES. DISTRICT 14? YES. DISTRICT 15? YES. MOTION PASSES. THE BOARD HAS VOTED NOT TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON AGENDA ITEM 10 C TWO. I'D LIKE TO HEAR IF POSSIBLE AGAIN, UH, ONE MORE CASE. UH, ABDUL SAMAD. UM, AND MR. SAMAD, I BELIEVE WAS HERE EARLIER AS WELL. UH, HE SPOKE CORRECT. HE WAS THE LAST SPEAKER FOR THE OPEN MIC. YES. UH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM, UH, ABOUT HIS CASE. UH, AGENDA ITEM 10 C3 TO RECOGNIZE HIS INVESTIGATOR, HUFF. OKAY. ON THE COMPLAINT, ON DECEMBER 23RD, 2024, ABDUL SAMAD FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED THE PREVIOUS DAY. SAMAD REPORTED THAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN A COLLISION AND OBSERVED THAT THE PASSENGER OF THE VEHICLE WAS FALSELY CLAIMING TO BE THE DRIVER. ADDITIONALLY, HE HAD FORMED OFFICERS AT THE SCENE THAT A SEPARATE VEHICLE HAD APPROACHED, MADE THREATS AGAINST HIM, AND ATTEMPTED TO RUN HIM OVER. SAMAD EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION THAT THE RESPONDING OFFICERS FAILED TO TAKE ANY ACTION REGARDING THESE CONCERNS. I REVIEWED THE POLICE REPORT. IT WAS WRITTEN BY OFFICER [01:45:01] MEDINA CERVANTES. THIS REPORT LISTS IRIS, THE DRIVER OF UNIT NUMBER ONE AND ABDUL SAMAD AS THE DRIVER OF UNIT NUMBER TWO. NO PASSENGERS WERE LISTED AND THERE'S NO MENTION OF THE ALLEGED DRIVER SWITCH REPORTED BY SAMAD. THERE'S A MISCELLANEOUS INCIDENT REPORT ATTACHED TO THIS CRASH REPORT, UM, ALSO AUTHORED BY OFFICER MEDINA CERVANTES. AND THIS REPORT DID DOCUMENT SAM'S CLAIM THAT A SEVERE VEHICLE ARRIVED ON THE SCENE AND MADE THREATENING GESTURES TOWARD HIM. AND THEN OVER A MONTH, LA OR ALMOST A MONTH LATER ON JANUARY 13TH, 2025, OFFICER MARTINEZ, WHO'S ALSO AT THE SCENE DURING THIS TRAFFIC COLLISION INVESTIGATION, UM, WROTE A REPORT, AN ASSAULT REPORT ABOUT THE ALLEGED, UM, VEHICLE THAT ATTEMPTED TO RUN OVER SAMAD. AND OFFICER MARTINEZ STATED THAT HE HAD ORIGINALLY MISUNDERSTOOD SAM'S CLAIM, WHICH IS WHY THE REPORT WAS DELAYED AND WRITTEN ALMOST A MONTH LATER. BUT IT WAS WRITTEN, I REVIEWED BODY-WORN CAMERA AND I REVIEWED SERGEANT EMERSON EMERSON'S, UH, CAMERA. AND IT DOES SHOW THE THREE OFFICERS AT THE SCENE DISCUSSING WITH SAMAD ABOUT THE DRIVER SWITCH AND ABOUT THE VEHICLE ATTEMPTING TO RUN OVER. SAMAD, UH, INTERNAL AFFAIRS DID THEIR PRELIMINARY REVIEW AND THEY WROTE A LETTER FOR SAMAD STATING UPON COMPLETION OF REVIEW, WE CANNOT ESTABLISH A VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. AND BASED ON THE REVIEW, WE HAVE DETERMINED NO INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED. ON APRIL 1ST, 2025, ABDUL SAMAD SUBMITTED THE REQUEST FOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW TO THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT. HE ALSO PROVIDED PHOTOGRAPHS OF TIRE MARKS, PERSONAL NOTES REGARDING THE INCIDENT AND COURT DOCUMENTS RELATED TO HIS LEGAL EFFORTS AGAINST THE OTHER DRIVER. AND THE REASON FOR HIM KIND OF REPORTING THAT, UH, REQUEST LATE WAS THAT HE HAD BEEN ATTEMPTING TO CONTACT SUPERVISORS OVER AT DALLAS POLICE, UM, TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE INVESTIGATION TO SEE IF THEY WERE GONNA DO ANYTHING, REFERENCE, UM, THE ASSAULT INVESTIGATION. AND HE WAS UNSATISFIED WITH ANY RESPONSE FROM THEM. SO THEN HE TURNED TO US AND UPON OUR REVIEW, UM, IDENTIFIED A POSSIBLE VIOLATION OF DALLAS POLICE CO CODE OF CONDUCT SECTION 5.3, WHICH MANDATES OFFICERS FULLY INVESTIGATE INCIDENTS ASSIGNED TO THEM. AND I BASE THIS ON THE FACT THAT NONE OF THE REPORTS INDICATE ANYTHING ABOUT A, A DRIVER SWITCH THAT SAMAD HAD REPORTED AT THE SCENE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, INVESTIGATOR. I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE CH TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME TO ASK ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS BEFORE WE RECEIVE A MOTION AND TAKE THIS TO A VOTE. DAVID KITNER, DISTRICT 13. IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LACK OF A COMPLETE REPORT RELATES SOLELY TO THERE BEING ANOTHER DRIVER IN THE DRIVER SWITCH? CORRECT. IS THERE ANY OTHER ASPECT OF THIS INCIDENT THAT YOU THINK WAS NOT THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED AS, UH, MR. S SMART SPOKE, YOU KNOW, AT THE MEETING EARLIER AND INDICATED IN HIS COMPLAINT, YOU KNOW, HE THINKS THAT THE INVESTIGATION TO THE POSSIBLE ASSAULT ONTO HIM WAS NOT FULLY INVESTIGATED BASED ON THEY DIDN'T OBTAIN VIDEO. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT VIDEO WAS AVAILABLE OR, OR WHAT HAPPENED THERE. THERE'S JUST NO MENTION OF THAT IN THE, ANY OF THE REPORTS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. CHAIR? THIS IS NOT A QUESTION. THIS IS MORE OF A, UM, OBSERVATION. WHEN WE HAVE THESE CASES COME TO US, IT WOULD BE, I BELIEVE, MUCH MORE EFFICIENT IF WE'D HEARD FROM THE PERSON AS WE'RE DELIVERING THE, UM, OCP UH, INFORMATION. THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THAN US HAVING TO RECALL WHAT HE SAID AND HE'S GONE BY NOW AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SOUNDS GOOD. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT. I'M GONNA PUT THAT ON YOU AS CHAIR, BUT I THINK THAT THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE. YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IT'D BE GOOD. UH, BUT, BUT WHILE I HAVE THE MICROPHONE OPEN, I WILL MAKE A MOTION SINCE, UH, I'M KIND OF LIKE MY JOB HERE. UM, THAT OCPE OFFICE. TOO MANY . YEAH, THAT I WAS GETTING THERE. I WAS GONNA GET TO THAT. OH, BELIEVE ME, THAT OCPO CONDUCT A FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF THIS MATTER. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. IS THERE A SECOND? LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, DISTRICT FOUR SECOND. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION IT'S BEEN SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO A VOTE? [01:50:02] SEEING THAT THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, WE'LL ALSO DO A, A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THIS CASE AS WELL. WE'RE VOTING TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THIS, THE ANSWER IS YES. IF YOU DO NOT THINK THE OFFICE SHOULD INVESTIGATE, THE ANSWER IS NO. DISTRICT ONE. DISTRICT ONE. YES. YES. DISTRICT TWO, CHILD TO MAPLES. DISTRICT TWO. YES. YES. DISTRICT THREE. TANYA HIGGINS. DISTRICT THREE? YES. DISTRICT FOUR? YES. YES. DISTRICT SIX? YES. DISTRICT EIGHT, JUDGE LANDER. DISTRICT EIGHT? YES. DISTRICT 10? YES. YES. DD 10 MS. KING? YES. DISTRICT 11? YES. MS. STEINFELD? YES. DISTRICT 12? YES. MS. WADSWORTH IS YES. DISTRICT 13? YES. MR. KITNER IS YES. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14. BRANDON FRIEDMAN. YES. YES. DISTRICT 15, JOHN MARK DAVIDSON. YES. THE MOTION TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION HAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, INVESTIGATOR. WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. THANK YOU. AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT ALL, WELL, TWO OF THESE CASES, UH, A LITTLE BIT LATER. UH, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, MADAM DIRECTOR, WILL THE OFFICE NOTIFY THE INDIVIDUALS THAT, UH, A FURTHER INVESTIGATION IS GOING TO BE CONDUCTED SO THEY CAN HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN? SO WE USUALLY FOLLOW IN THE MEETING, NOTIFY THEM VIA LETTER, WHAT THE RULING OF THE BOARD WE PRESENTED THEM. UM, WE USUALLY NOTE WHEN WE, WHAT WE PRESENTED, UM, AND THEN WHAT THE VOTE WAS. UM, WE, WE TRY TO DOCUMENT THAT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. I DO LOVE THE IDEA, JUDGE, UH, ABOUT TRYING TO, KNOWING, KNOWING IF THEY'RE GONNA BE PRESENT IN THE MEETING THEY'VE SET UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. MAYBE WE COULD BE CREATIVE AS, AS FAR AS, UH, HAVING THEM SPEAK CLOSER TO INVESTIGATORS. I LIKE THAT. WE'LL, WE WILL SOLVE, WE WE'LL, UH, HAPPEN. WE'LL, WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN DO. THAT'S, IT'S A GOOD IDEA. A GOOD IDEA. GREAT. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. WE'LL, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 11, THE POLICY ANALYST REPORT. AND WE HAVE THE POLICY ANALYST HERSELF, SIERRA OBSU, WHO'S HERE, WILL GIVE US AN UPDATE. UH, WE'LL START WITH A LEGISLATIVE BRIEFING, UH, HOUSE BILL 2 4 8 6. SHE RECOGNIZES YOU, SIERRA. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, MY NAME IS SIERRA OI AND I'M THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE. I'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH A, WITH AN OVERVIEW OF HOUSE BILL 24 86, WHICH AIMS TO ESTABLISH CLEAR GUIDELINES REGARDING THE MAINTENANCE, ACCESSIBILITY, AND CONFIDENTIALITY OF DEPARTMENT FILES CONTAINING INFORMATION RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT LICENSE HOLDERS. A LICENSE HOLDER IS DEFINED AS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HOLDS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER LICENSE ISSUED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT. A FEW KEY PROVISIONS OF HB 24 86, A DEPARTMENT FILE DEFINED AS A RECORD MAINTAINED BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY FOR EACH LICENSE HOLDER IT EMPLOYS FOR FILE MAINTENANCE, THE HEAD OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR A DESIGNEE MUST MAINTAIN A DEPARTMENT FILES SEPARATE FROM PERSONNEL FILES MAINTAINED UNDER EXISTING POLICIES IN THE TEXAS OCCUPATION CODE SECTION 1701 0.4535. THE CONTENTS OF THE DEPARTMENT FILE INCLUDES LETTERS, MEMOS, OR DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE LICENSE HOLDER THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN A PERSONNEL FILE, SUCH AS RECORDS OF ALLEGED MISCONDUCT, WHERE INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE EXISTS TO SUSTAIN A CHARGE OF MISCONDUCT. AGENCIES SEEKING TO HIRE A LICENSE HOLDER MAY REVIEW THE DEPARTMENT FILE AS ALLOWED UNDER SECTION 1701 0.45, ONE OF THE TEXAS OCCUPATION CODE TO MAKE INFORMED HIRING DECISIONS WHILE T COLE MAY ACCESS DEPARTMENT FILES UNDER SPECIFIC CONDITIONS OR DURING OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS. ADDITIONALLY, INFORMATION IN A DEPARTMENT FILE IS CONFIDENTIAL AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO PUBLIC DISCLOSURE UNDER THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT. IF HB 24 86 IS ENACTED, POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH A POLICE DEPARTMENTS WITH A CIVIL SERVICE RULE STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD NEED TO ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN SEPARATE CONFIDENTIAL DEPARTMENT FILES FOR EACH LICENSE HOLDER. ACCESS TO THESE FILES WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO HIRING AGENCIES AND T COLE UNDER SPECIFIC LEGAL CONDITIONS LIMITING PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF UNSU UNSUBSTANTIATED ALLEGATIONS WITH CONTINGENT [01:55:01] ACCESS TO UNSUBSTANTIATED ALLEGATIONS BEING LIMITED TO ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES AND TOHP 24 86 MAY PREVENT INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT BODIES FROM REVIEWING ANY CONTENT RELATED TO UNSUSTAINED, UNFOUNDED, OR EXONERATED OFFICER MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS SPECIFICALLY HB 24 86 MAY SIGNIFICANTLY LIMIT THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT'S ABILITY TO INDEPENDENTLY REVIEW LETTERS, MEMOS, OR OTHER DOCUMENTATION RELATED TO UNSUBSTANTIATED MISCONDUCTS MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION PER THE CITY OF DALLAS CHARTER, THIS RESTRICTION MAY HINDER THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT AND COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD'S CAPACITY TO CONDUCT INDEPENDENT REVIEWS OR INVESTIGATIONS OF SUCH ALLEGATIONS. I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT SENATE BILL 7 81 WRITTEN BY SENATOR PHIL KING, THE AUTHOR OF THE IDENTICAL COMPANION BILL OF HB 24 86, IS INTENDED TO PROTECT ALL PEACE OFFICERS' PERSONNEL INFORMATION, INCLUDING THEIR ADDRESSES, NAMES OF FAMILY MEMBERS, AND ANY RECEIVED AWARDS ON APRIL 2ND, HB 24 86 WAS VOTED FAVORABLY, 10 TO ZERO IN THE HOUSE, HOMELAND SECURITY, PUBLIC SAFETY AND VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE AND RECOMMENDED FOR FULL HOUSE CONSIDERATION WITHOUT ANY CHANGES TO ITS ORIGINAL TEXT. AND SENATE BILL 7 81 WAS LEFT PENDING IN THE SENATE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMITTEE ON MARCH 25TH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIERRA. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THIS BRIEFING ON HOUSE BILL? 2, 4, 8, 6? I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION, UH, SIERRA IS I KNOW, UH, THESE ARE GREAT, THESE ARE BRIEFINGS AND ARE THERE EVER TIMES WHEN YOU WILL NEED TO HEAD DOWN TO AUSTIN TO ADVOCATE FOR CERTAIN THINGS OR, UH, ANYTHING HAPPENING IN AUSTIN THAT IS SUPPORTING OVERSIGHT THAT YOU KNOW OF IN CHALLENGING BILLS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT AFFECT OVERSIGHT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? UM, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS BILL HAS A POTENTIAL TO IMPACT OUR ABILITIES GREATLY. SO IS THERE ANYBODY THAT YOU KNOW OF OR ANY GROUP THAT'S IN AUSTIN ADVOCATING FOR OVERSIGHT FROM OUR OFFICE? NO. UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND MM-HMM . UM, OFFERING ANY SUGGESTIONS OR HELPFUL IDEAS TO ADVOCATE FOR US. GOOD. SO IF, IF THERE'S A, A BILL THAT'S REALLY DANGEROUS, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST WOULD BE TERRIBLE FOR THE OVERSIGHT COMMUNITY, THERE ARE MECHANISMS IN PLACE THAT WE COULD LEAN ON AND RELY ON THAT COULD ADVOCATE FOR OVERSIGHT, UH, CORRECT. UM, BUT I WOULD ALSO OFFER SUPPORT OR ANY SUGGESTIONS OF LANGUAGE AMENDMENTS OR ADVOCACY GOING DOWN TO AUSTIN WITH US WHEN WE DO FROM THE BOARD. UM, AND EVEN IN OUR POLICY COMMITTEE NEXT WEEK, POSSIBLY ENTER, UM, TWINING THIS BILL INTO OUR AGENDA FOR THAT MEETING. SOUNDS GOOD. SO DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO GO TO AUSTIN DURING, DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION OR MAINLY YOU'RE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO HERE IN DALLAS? WELL, IF, IF THE BILL CALLS FOR IT, UM, THE DIRECTOR I'M SURE WILL DIRECT US THAT WAY. ALRIGHT, COOL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YES, MS. FEL, DO WE, EXCUSE ME, DO WE KNOW IF OTHER TEXAS CITIES ARE SENDING REPRESENTATIVES, UM, TO AUSTIN ABOUT THIS BILL OVERSIGHT BODIES? YEAH. UM, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE CURRENTLY. I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER ADVOCACY GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE GIVEN TESTIMONY ABOUT THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU. UH, JONATHAN, MAY I GOT A COMMENT? GO AHEAD. OH, YES, MR. HIGGINS, WE CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. UM, TO THE BOARD MEMBERS' LAST QUESTION. YOU KNOW, UM, BEING AN ORGANIZER MYSELF, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, UH, FIGURE OUT AS A BOARD, UM, WHAT LEVEL OF ADVOCACY WORKING WITH THE POLICY ANALYSTS IN THE OFFICE TO FIGURE OUT, UH, WHAT KIND OF PRESENCE WE CAN HAVE, UM, IN AUSTIN. UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY, UH, REACH OUT TO OTHER OVERSIGHT, CIVILIAN REVIEW AND BOARDS AND PANELS ACROSS THE STATE, UH, TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE SOME TYPE OF CONCENTRATED EFFORT TO, TO, UH, TO SPEAK TO THIS AND, AND PUSH FOR SOME AMENDMENTS TO THIS, UM, IF POSSIBLE. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, UM, [02:00:01] WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, SOME AMENDMENTS OR WHATEVER, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO DO SOME FOOTWORK TO DO THAT AS THE CHAIR OF THE POLICY COMMITTEE AND, YOU KNOW, UM, AS SOMEONE WHO ORGANIZES AROUND THESE THINGS, UM, AND MY CAPACITY AND, AND, UH, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL, MOBILIZING ORGANIZATIONS. THANK YOU MR. HIGGINS. APPRECIATE THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. I'VE GOT A, I REALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. UM, IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION ON THE OFFICE ADVOCATING FOR OR AGAINST A PARTICULAR LEGISLATION RESTRICTION? IN WHAT SENSE OF THE WORD, IN OTHER WORDS, CAN, UH, WE ASK THE OFFICE TO GO DOWN TO AUSTIN AND BUTTONHOLE THIS SENATOR, UH, AND LET HIM KNOW HOUSE REPRESENTATIVE, THANK YOU, THIS REPRESENTATIVE, AND LET HIM KNOW JUST HOW DANGEROUS HIS BILL IS TO, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT. THERE IS NOTHING TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I, I, IN TERMS OF, I, I GUESS IN MY MIND THE QUESTION IS, AND FEEL FREE TO TELL ME IF IT'S WRONG, JUDGE, BUT, UM, WAS THERE ANY LIKE, RESTRICTION ON LOBBYING? THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. UH, THE DIRECTOR DOES NOT HAVE TO REGISTER AS A LOBBYIST BECAUSE SHE'S A CITY EMPLOYEE. UM, SO, SO WE'RE GOOD ON THAT. IF THE QUESTION IS LIKE, CAN THE WHOLE GROUP, ALL 15 OF Y'ALL GO DOWN THERE WOULD BE A QUORUM ISSUE UNDER TOMA? WEIRDLY ENOUGH, IF YOU'RE ALL TESTIFYING TOGETHER, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING FROM LIKE OFFICE TO OFFICE TRYING TO LOBBY THE MEMBERS, UH, THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE UNDER TOMA FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS, BUT THE DIRECTOR CAN DO IT, UM, INDIVIDUALLY. SO WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUNT IT ALL TO THE OFFICE RATHER THAN US AS, UH, BOARD MEMBERS. IF YOU'RE TESTIFYING AS A GROUP IN FRONT OF ONE OF THE COMMITTEES, IT'S FINE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO DOOR TO DOOR, UM, BEHIND THE SCENES TALKING TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS A QUORUM OF THE BODY. COULD, WE COULD DO THEM AS INDIVIDUALS, IS THAT CORRECT? YOU COULD DO IT AS INDIVIDUALS. YES, SIR. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. CHAIRMAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS WE EACH CONTACT OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE. THAT'S WHAT EACH ONE OF US DOES. LIKE, WE CONTACT OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ON SOMETHING. SO I, I'M IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH MY STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND I KNOW THAT SHE'S AGAINST THIS, SO MAYBE OTHERS ARE, AND WHEN IT COMES TO A VOTE ON THE FLOOR, THAT'S HOW THEY'LL VOTE. BUT I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO AS INDIVIDUALS IS TALK TO YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVE. THANK YOU. I THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING ANOTHER, YEAH, ONE MORE QUESTION, CHAIR. OH, YES, MR. HIGGINS FLOOR'S. YOURS? YES. UM, MS. OH, BASU, THE . WHAT KIND OF WINDOW DO WE HAVE TO, UM, POTENTIALLY AMEND THIS BILL? UM, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY ON THE SCHEDULE FOR HOUSE, UH, CONSIDERATION OR IT IS ON, IT IS ON THE SCHEDULE FOR HOUSE CONSIDERATION. JUST IT HASN'T SCHEDULED A DATE YET FOR IT TO BE HEARD ON THE OFF HOUSE FLOOR. UM, AS FAR AS THE SENATE BILL, IT IS STILL LEFT IN THE COMMITTEE, UM, AS PENDING AND AFTER WATCHING THE COMMITTEE, I THINK SOME OF THE SENATORS IN THAT COMMITTEE HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. AND SO, UM, I WOULD ASSUME THAT AMENDMENTS MAY BE DISCUSSED AND WORKED ON IN THAT COMMITTEE. SO I MEAN, I WOULD TO MY KNOWLEDGE, UH, GIVE OR TAKE A WEEK OR TWO, UM, AS OUR WINDOW. MS. SIERRA, UH, DOESN'T THE SESSION END IN THE MIDDLE OF MAY? NO, IT ACTUALLY ENDS ON JUNE 2ND. ON JUNE 2ND. OKAY. YES. NOW FOR BILLS TO BE HEARD, I THINK MAY 12TH IS FOR THE HOUSE, AND MAY 24TH IS FOR THE SENATE. THANK YOU. UM, JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO, I LOST MY PLACE. UH, UH, WHICH SENATOR, UM, BROUGHT THIS FORWARD. UM, SO THIS IS THE HOUSE BILL, BUT IT HAS AN IDENTICAL COMPANION BILL. SO THE HOUSE BILL IS, UH, REPRESENTATIVE COLE HEFNER, AND THE SENATE BILL IS SENATOR PHIL KING. OKAY. OKAY. UH, YEAH, I AGREE THAT THE STARTING POINT IS TO, UM, REACH OUT TO [02:05:01] OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE, UH, ANOTHER PLAN AND, AND I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE VERBIAGE TO SAY WHAT I WANNA SAY, BUT I, I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE, AND THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD CONVERSATION FOR THAT POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE TO TAKE ON. AND, UH, IT'S A, IT'S WITHIN THEIR WHEELHOUSE, UH, TO TAKE THAT ON AND, AND, UH, UM, LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN, HOW WE CAN JOIN IN, IN THE FUN. BUT I THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR THE BRIEFING HERE ON HOUSE BILL 2 4 8 2 4 8 6, CHAIRMAN. YES. DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THAT TO THE, UH, POLICY COMMITTEE'S AGENDA? I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF WE NEED TO DO THAT. I THINK, UH, THE, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE POLICY, UH, HI, UH, CHAIRMAN HIGGINS, I THINK HE CAN SET THE AGENDA, UH, FOR THAT. UH, AND SO I DON'T THINK A VOTE'S NEEDED, BUT THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION TO KEEP, TO COVER OUR BASES, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD. WE WILL, WE'LL BE GOOD WITH THAT. MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. I, MR. KING, MAY I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? UM, DO WE, THIS MAY NOT BE ANSWERABLE IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM. DO WE HAVE A MOTIVATION FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE AND THE SENATOR FOR THIS? WHAT, WHAT REASON ARE THEY GIVING THAT THIS LEGISLATION IS IMPORTANT? UM, I READ THE INTENT, UM, ON THEIR BILL ANALYSIS, AND IT WAS JUST TO PROTECT ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION, UM, OF THE OFFICERS. SO LIKE FAMILY MEMBER INFORMATION OR AWARDS ADDRESSES, STUFF LIKE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MR. MR. HI, MR. HIGGINS. UH, MS. MS. , UM, I, IS IT, AM I CORRECT BY SAYING THAT'S ALREADY INFORMATION THAT'S PROTECTED? CORRECT. STATE LAW. OKAY. THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I, I, I DO WANT TO ADD, I THINK IT MAY BE, UM, A BIT DIFFERENT WITH DPDS CURRENT STRUCTURE, UM, GIVEN THAT THEY OPERATE UNDER, UM, THE CIVIL SERVICE, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE OF 1 47. SO IT'S A BIT DIFFERENT. UM, BUT YES, MOST OF THAT INFORMATION IS CONFIDENTIAL. GREAT. WELL, WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THIS BRIEFING. AND NOW WE HAVE ABOUT NINE UPDATES, SO WE'D LOVE TO, UH, GET SOME UPDATES FROM YOU ON THESE NINE BULLET POINTS. AND THE DIRECTOR SAID IT. I DIDN'T SAY IT, SHE SAID BRIEFLY, BUT, UH, YES, WE, UH, WE GOT, UH, SENATE BILL 2 8 0, SENATE BILL 1957 GOING DOWN. HOW ABOUT YOU GIVE US A RUN THROUGH ON ALL, ALL, UH, NINE OF THOSE? YES. AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP, UH, FOR THE BOARD FOLLOWING EACH OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS TO ASK IF ANYTHING STANDS OUT AS SHE'S GOING THROUGH THOSE BRIEFINGS, WE CAN ASK ALL OUR QUESTIONS IN ONE, ONE SETTING THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SO I'LL GIVE A ALL ENCOMPASSING UPDATE. UM, AS OF TODAY, LAWMAKERS HAVE INTRODUCED 10,314 BILLS AND PASSED 925. ALL PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED BILLS HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMITTEES BUT HAVE NOT BEEN ASSIGNED FOR A HEARING DATE AS PREVIOUSLY STATED IN THE LAST CPOB MEETING, THE DEADLINE FOR THE HOUSE TO REPORT ITS BILLS OR JOINT RESOLUTIONS OUT OF COMMITTEE IS MAY 12TH. WHILE THE FINAL OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT SENATE LEGISLATION OUT OF THE COMMITTEE IS MAY 24TH. I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED AND PROMPTLY NOTIFIED FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO TESTIFY ON ANY THE BILLS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED AND PROVIDE TIMELY UPDATES ON THE BILLS AS THEY PROGRESS THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, UH, REGARDING THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATES ON, UH, THESE NINE BILLS. I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT NUMBER AGAIN? WHICH ONE? YOU SAID 10,000 AS FAR AS INTRODUCED? YES. YES. I BELIEVE IT WAS 10,314 BILLS AND NINE HUNDRED NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE HAVE PASSED. AND THE DEADLINES WHEN, UM, FOR THE HOUSE IS MAY 12TH. AND FOR THE SENATE IT'S MAY 24TH. THANK YOU. AND SESSION ENDS ON JUNE 2ND. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. BASUI FOR, UH, THESE UPDATES AND THIS BRIEFING, AND FOR KEEPING US INFORMED. AND, UH, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING AS A, AS AN ENTIRETY BOARD IF, IF THIS GETS BROUGHT UP WITH THE POLICY COMMITTEE, IF THERE'S ANY WAYS THAT WE COULD BE OF SERVICE TO ADVOCATE. AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF CONTACTING OUR OWN REPRESENTATIVES ALREADY, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE COMES UP WITH WHERE WE COULD BE OF SERVICE, UH, [02:10:01] IN TO ADVOCATE FOR WHAT'S GOOD AND RIGHT AND TRUE, LET US KNOW. AND WE'RE HERE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE, WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 12, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REPORT. I'D LOVE TO INVITE TO THE MICROPHONE, THE SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, ALMA PEREZ AND COMMUNICATIONS ADVISOR, GUERRERO. AND LOVE TO HEAR, OH, SORRY. I THINK, UH, MAYBE IF WELL, WATER'S GOING. YEAH. SO THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES YOU, MS. PEREZ. I'D LOVE TO HEAR ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY, UH, ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD. UH, MY NAME IS ALMA PEREZ, SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, AND I AM HERE TO, UH, GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, UH, FOR MARCH, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ALSO WHAT'S AHEAD. UM, IN MARCH, THE CITY OF DALLAS OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN A VARIETY OF OUTREACH EFFORTS AIMED AT DEEPENING COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, PROMOTING TRANSPARENCY, AND INCREASING PUBLIC AWARENESS OF OUR SERVICES. SO, KEY ENGAGEMENTS AND EVENTS. UM, AGAIN, WE ATTENDED TWO DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, LISTENING SESSIONS WITH INTERIM CHIEF IGO. THESE SESSIONS ALLOWED COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLICE PRACTICES. SO ON MARCH 19TH, UM, WE WERE AT THE MMLK JUNIOR RECREATION CENTER. ON MARCH 26TH, UH, WE ATTENDED CONCORD CHURCH. UM, SECONDLY, THE DALLAS, UH, POLICE ALSO, UM, HOSTED TWO IMMIGRATION LISTENING SESSIONS. UM, THESE SESSIONS WERE, UH, TIME TO ENGAGE WITH IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS REGARDING LAW ENFORCEMENT PRACTICES. ON MARCH, UH, THIRD, WE WERE AT THE TIMBERLAND RECREATION CENTER IN DISTRICT 12 ON MARCH 4TH, WE WERE AT THE JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS IN DISTRICT ONE. UM, LASTLY, I'VE ALSO BEEN, UM, UH, ATTENDING THE DALLAS 3 1 1 POPUP EVENTS. UM, THESE ARE HOSTED AT VARIOUS LIBRARIES AND RECREATION CENTERS. UH, THESE EVENTS ARE, UM, AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT DIRECTLY WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR OFFICES, SERVICES, AND ANSWER QUESTIONS REGARDING POLICE OVERSIGHT AND PUBLIC SAFETY. UM, AND I ATTENDED FOUR OF THOSE, UM, IN, UM, OAK LAWN, UM, BRANCH LIBRARY, GR, WEILER PARK LIBRARY NORTH, OR OAKCLIFF LIBRARY, SAMUEL GRAND RECREATION CENTER. AT THESE POP-UP EVENTS, AGAIN, WE PROVIDED BROCHURES, EXPLAINED HOW TO FILE COMPLAINTS AND INFORMED ATTENDEES ABOUT THE OVERSIGHT FUNCTIONS OF OUR OFFICE. SO, IN SUMMARY, THROUGH THESE EVENTS, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT CONTINUED ITS MISSION OF FOSTERING OPEN DIALOGUE, PROMOTING ACCOUNTABILITY, AND BUILDING TRUST WITH THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS. OUR PRESENCE ACROSS DISTRICTS HELPED BROADEN PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING OF OVERSIGHT EFFORTS AND ENCOURAGED COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT INFORMS OUR, UH, ONGOING WORK. NOW, LOOKING AHEAD, UM, THIS MONTH, APRIL, 2025, WE INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO CONNECT WITH US AT THE FOLLOWING UPCOMING EVENTS. THESE GA GATHERINGS OFFER MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENGAGEMENT, EDUCATION AND ALSO PARTNERSHIP. UM, ON SATURDAY, APRIL 5TH, I WAS IN DISTRICT 10 AT THE CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS RESOURCE FAIR. UM, AND THAT WAS IN, UH, COLLABORATION WITH THE OFFICE OF, UH, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, I'VE GOT, UM, LIKE THE, UM, DIRECTOR, UH, ANDRE STATED SHE WILL BE AT THE LULAC, UM, DISTRICT THREE CONVENTION PANEL AT MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE THIS SATURDAY. UM, AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE EGG HUNT EVENTS THAT WE'RE DOING. ONE IN DISTRICT 13 IN DISTRICT TWO, UM, AND THEN ALSO AN EARTH DAY EVENT ON APRIL 26TH. UM, ON APRIL 27TH, UM, I WILL BE ATTENDING A DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENT WITH THE UNIDOS TEAM. AND THIS WILL BE TO CELEBRATE DINO. THIS WILL BE AN EVENT, UH, WHERE WE WILL BE COLLECTING TOYS. UM, DINO IS CHILDREN'S DAY. IT'S A MEXICAN, UM, CELEBRATION. UM, AND THIS IS ALSO IN PARTNERSHIP [02:15:01] WITH ELIZ OAK CLIFF. THIS IS, UH, RIA. AND SO FOR EVERY TOY DONATED, UM, THE PERSON WILL RECEIVE TWO TACOS AND A DRINK. UM, THE TOYS WILL THEN BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP CHILDREN, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE DALLAS CHILDREN ADVOCACY CENTER, AVANSE AND OTHERS THAT WORK WITH CHILDREN AND FAMILIES. UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR EFFORTS TO EMPOWER COMMUNITIES, PROMOTE SAFETY AND FAIRNESS, AND CREATE LASTING CONNECTIONS ACROSS DALLAS. TOGETHER WE CAN BUILD A MORE TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE POLICING SYSTEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. PEREZ. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT? JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO, I, I COMMEND YOU. YEAH. PUBLIC AWARENESS IS, IS WHAT WE'RE ALL TASKED TO DO. THANK YOU FOR, FOR GOING OUT AND, UH, ENGAGING THE PUBLIC AND LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE, ONE QUESTION. UH, MS. PEREZ, I KNOW, UH, YOU HAVE THE GIFT OF SPEAKING BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH. ARE YOU ABLE TO, UH, HAVE YOU FOUND THAT THAT HAS COME IN HANDY IN THESE EVENTS? UM, THE ABILITY TO SPEAK BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH? YES. AT, UH, SATURDAY'S EVENT, UM, I DID, UH, COME ACROSS A FEW FAMILIES THAT WERE SPANISH SPEAKERS, SO YES, IT DOES COME IN HANDY. WELL, THANK YOU. KEEP UP THIS GOOD WORK, UH, OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S, UH, SPREADING THE GOOD WORD. WE APPRECIATE THAT. YES, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 13, AND, UH, THIS IS THE INTRODUCTION TO THE NEW COMPLAINT INTAKE SPECIALIST. WE HEARD ABOUT HER LAST MEETING AND WE, TODAY WE GET TO MEET HER IN PERSON. SO, UH, THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE NEW COMPLAINT INTAKE SPECIALIST. MISS YOLANDA COLE, LOVE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF. UH, IF YOU COULD TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT YOURSELF, UH, AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, THERE'LL BE SOME TIME. BUT THANK YOU. WELCOME. UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. I THINK THE MIC MIGHT NOT BE ON. TRY IT AGAIN. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY. GOOD EVENING BOARD. MY NAME IS YOLANDA COLE. UM, I AM A NATIVE OF DALLAS. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE, SO THIS IS MY CITY. UM, I HAVE OVER 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN LEGAL PROCESSES, CRISIS INTERVENTION, AND ALSO PUBLIC SAFETY. UM, I HAVE BUILT MY CAREER CENTERED AROUND SAFETY AND STABILITY OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES HERE IN DALLAS COUNTY. MY EXPERIENCE INCLUDES, UM, I WAS AN INVESTIGATOR WITH CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES FOR OVER 15 YEARS, AND ALSO I HELD A POSITION AS AN ALTERNATIVE RESPONSE, UM, SPECIALIST AS WELL WITH CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES. MY EXPERIENCE ALSO INCLUDES, UM, I WAS A CHILD SUPPORT OFFICER WITH THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL, AND I ALSO HOLD A BACHELOR'S IN ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE FROM THE TEXAS SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY. AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT WORKING WITH YOU GUYS. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE SINCE I STARTED FEBRUARY. I MISSED THE LAST MEETING, BUT I THINK I AM ADJUSTING WELL, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S TO COME. THANK YOU, MS. COLE. SO HAPPY YOU'RE PART OF THIS TEAM. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ADDRESSED TO THE INTAKE SPECIALIST? YOLANDA COLE? SEEING THAT THERE'S NONE. COME ON, MR. MAPLES, YOU GOTTA HELP US OUT HERE. WE CAN'T LET HER OFF THE HOOK. COME ON, MAN. WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. COLE, AND, UM, APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. WELCOME. I'D LIKE TO MOVE NOW TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14. AND AGAIN, WE'RE BLESSED WITH THE PRESENCE OF MAJOR ANTHONY GREER. HAPPY YOU'RE HERE. LOVE TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR TO GIVE ANY UPDATE, UH, FOR US REGARDING INTERNAL AFFAIRS. YES, SIR. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. I'LL BE BRIEF. IT'S BEEN A, UH, VERY, IS THAT MICROPHONE ON? I'LL BE BRIEF. IT'S BEEN A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND FROM THE LAST MEETING TO THIS MEETING. BUT AS WE MOVE ALONG, UH, OUR GENERAL ORDERS, IT CONTINUES TO BE UPDATED AND APPROVED ALONG WITH OUR SOP, WHICH CONTAINS ALL THOSE ISSUES AND UPDATES THAT WE HAD FROM OUR, UM, OUR, UH, OUR STUDY THAT WE HAD. BUT THAT PROCESS IS IN PLACE. UM, UH, BETWEEN LAST MEETING AND THIS MEETING, WE GOT THE WATCH RBT, REALITY BASED TRAINING. AND, UH, AND I GOT TO WATCH OUR, OUR, UM, UH, OFFICE IN ACTION IN PERSON. THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB. VERY, VERY INFORMATIVE CLASS. BUT, UM, MOVING ALONG, IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL, IT CONTINUES TO BE WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH THE BOARD AND ALSO WITH THE OFFICE. I THINK WE TALK VERY, VERY OFTEN [02:20:01] TO GET PROBLEMS SOLVED, AND MOST OF THE TIME WE GET 'EM SOLVED TOGETHER. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I LIKE. AND I LIKE THE, THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THEY HOLD ME TO, UH, BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR THE DEPARTMENT, IT'S GOOD FOR THE PRODUCT THAT WE PUT OUT, AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS. SO, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE ON, UH, THE SAME JOURNEY. SO THANK YOU, MAJOR. ANY QUESTIONS ADDRESSED TO MAJOR GREER FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? THERE APPEARS TO BE NONE. UH, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENCE. AGAIN, ALSO, OFFICERS THAT ARE HERE, UH, EVERY TUESDAY, UH, DURING THESE MEETINGS, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 15, MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS. IF YOU COULD JUST TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AND LOOK THROUGH THIS, AND I'LL GIVE SOME TIME IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED TO THE OFFICE INTAKE SPECIALIST ABOUT ANY DATA THAT'S PRESENTED IN THIS AGENDA ITEM. AND, UH, IF THERE'S NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, BUT WANNA GIVE, UH, THE BOARD A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY ARISE. IT APPEARS THERE'S NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. I'M GONNA GIVE ONE LAST CALL. OKAY. SEEING THAT THE BOARD HAS NO QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS AGENDA ITEM, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 16. AND THIS IS COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD REPORTS AND BRIEFINGS, A CHAIRMAN REPORT. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO REPORT, UH, TODAY. I THINK, UH, I, I SHARED, UH, THE UPDATE ABOUT BEING A PART OF THE DALLAS POLICE CHIEF PANEL. UM, AND I'LL BE EAGER TO, TO LEARN WHO THE FINAL CANDIDATE IS. UH, AND I REALLY ENJOYED MEETING ALL FIVE CANDIDATES. AND, UH, I COMMEND EVERYONE'S VERY, VERY, EACH OF EACH ONE WAS VERY QUALIFIED AND, UM, HOPING, UH, FOR A GREAT DECISION FOR THIS CITY. UM, AND SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY TODAY. AND I'D LIKE TO NOW, UH, GIVE THE FLOOR TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRS, UM, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS. IT DOESN'T APPEAR HE, HE STAYED ON THE CALL, BUT WANNA GIVE HIM A CHANCE. MR. HIGGINS, ARE YOU ON, ON THE ONLINE BY CHANCE? IT APPEARS. OH, IT APPEARS HE HAD TO, HAD TO DROP. UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL NEW, WE'LL, OH, SIERRA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE, UH, FOR THE POLICY COMMITTEE? THIS IS AN UPDATE FROM SIERRA BASUI REGARDING THE POLICY COMMITTEE. UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. UM, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON MAKING SOME SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE ORDINANCE, BUT GIVEN THAT THIS BILL HAS ARISE, WE'LL PROBABLY RESTRUCTURE OUR AGENDA. WE PLAN TO MEET NEXT TUESDAY, SO, PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE FROM THE BOARD? SEEING THERE'S NONE, WILL NOW MOVE TO AN UPDATE FROM THE RULES COMMITTEE. UH, THE CHAIR, ALLISON GRINER ALLEN IS, UH, NOT HERE TODAY, BUT SHE'S ASKED JUDGE LANDER TO GIVE THE UPDATE, UH, FOR THE RULES COMMITTEE. JUDGE LANDER, UH, THE FLOOR'S, YOURS? YES. UM, THE RULES COMMITTEE DID MEET, UM, ON APRIL THE FIRST. UM, THERE'S, WE MADE A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS OF CHANGES, BUT WE HAVE, UH, A NUMBER MORE TO GO. SO IT KIND OF AN INCOMPLETE REPORT, BUT WE ARE, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING THE RULES SIMILAR TO REVISING THE POLICY. THANK YOU, JUDGE. I, WE ASK FOR YOUR FORBEARANCE, . THANK YOU, JUDGE. ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS DIRECTED TOWARDS, UH, JUDGE, JUDGE LANDER REGARDING THE RULES COMMITTEE? SEEING THERE'S NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO THE BOARD TRAINING SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, CHAIR WOMAN, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH IS AMONG US. LOVE TO HEAR AN UPDATE FROM YOU. WELL, UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UH, MISCOMMUNICATION ON MY PART, BUT, UM, MAJOR GREER HAS SUGGESTED THAT WE CONDUCT THE TRAINING IN, WITHIN OUR SESSIONS BECAUSE IT IS SO DIFFICULT TO SCHEDULE OUTSIDE MEETINGS. AND WE WILL DO, UM, USE OF FORCE, INCLUDING LESS LETHAL AND DEESCALATION REALITY BASED TRAINING AND OVERVIEW OF, UH, IAD COMPLAINT VIA IAD COMPLAINT PROCESS. AND, UM, MAJOR HAS SUGGESTED THAT HE WILL BRING THE TRAINING, UM, PERSONNEL HERE AND CONDUCT THE TRAINING. THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, [02:25:01] DIRECTED TOWARDS THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE? YEAH, I, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, UH, MAYBE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO WE DID THE SIMULATOR, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT, UH, UM, WE COULD HAVE THAT TRAINING AS WELL? YOU, YOU GUYS DID THE SIMULATOR THERE AT THE IN-SERVICE ACADEMY? IT'S A KIND CIRCLE. YES. UH, THAT TECHNOLOGY'S BEEN, IT'S KINDA OLD NOW. OKAY. YEAH. SO WE WE'RE KIND OF MOVING TOWARDS THE, UH, THE GOGGLES. OKAY. KIND OF INTERACTIVE GOGGLES. OKAY. AND WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE, THE PROGRAMS WRITTEN FOR THE, FOR THE GOGGLES, BUT WE'VE TAKEN DOWN THAT, 'CAUSE IT'S TECHNOLOGY MOVES SO QUICKLY. UH, WHAT WAS NEW, UH, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT SOLD, NOW THAT'S GONE BY THE WAYSIDE NOW. OKAY. BUT, UM, AS SOON AS WE GET THE PROGRAMS WRITTEN, UH, FOR THE GOGGLES, I'LL CERTAINLY MAKE AN EFFORT TO GET THOSE GOGGLES DOWN HERE TOO. YOU, SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. SO, YEAH, I, I THINK I GOT THOSE GOGGLES AT THE HOUSE. I GOT YOUNG FOLKS, . OH YEAH, WE PROBABLY DID. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? INSTRUCTED TO DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH CHAIRWOMAN OF THE BOARD TRAINING, SEEING THERE'S NONE. LET'S NOW MOVE TO, UM, THE COMMUNITY. SORRY. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. UH, CHAIR MAPLES, LOVE TO GET AN UPDATE FROM YOU ON THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SUBCOMMITTEE. UM, SO I, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT EVERYTHING STARTS WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND, UH, WE'VE TAKEN PART. I WANNA THANK MR. GRAM. ALSO, I WANNA THANK YOU CHAIR, BECAUSE SINCE JANUARY WE'VE TAKEN PART IN SEVERAL, UH, HIGH PROFILE EVENTS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. BUT THE CORE OF WHAT WE DO IS GONNA TAKE ALL OF US. I MEAN, I REALLY, UH, SOLICIT YOU TO, UH, GO OUT TO YOUR REC CENTERS AND YOUR, UM, COMMUNITY, UH, MEETINGS OR CRIME WATCHES AND, AND LEAVE OUR INFORMATION THERE. IT, UH, IT WILL BENEFIT US ALL BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE MORE SUPPORT WE CAN GET BY LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE HERE, THE BETTER OFF WILL BE. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MAPLES, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TOWARDS CHAIR MAPLES SUBCOMMITTEE? SEEING THERE'S NONE AT THIS TIME. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 17, WHICH IS A REMINDER TO EACH OF US ABOUT THE UPCOMING MEETINGS. THE NEXT CPOB MEETING WILL BE MAY 13TH, 5:30 PM THEN JUNE 10TH. UH, AND JUST, UH, SO TO REMIND EVERYONE, JULY, THERE IS NO MEETING. UH, THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFF THAT MONTH, AND SO DO WE. SO, UH, THERE'LL, THERE WILL BE NO MEETING IN JULY, BUT THEN WE'LL PICK IT BACK UP AUGUST 12TH, AND THEN AGAIN SEPTEMBER 9TH. SO, PLEASE, UH, MARK YOUR CALENDARS. YOUR PRESENCE IS A GIFT. SO, UH, YOU BEING HERE MEANS A LOT. AND, UH, WE ARE BETTER TOGETHER WHEN WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL HERE. SO, UH, WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP, UH, TO PUBLIC COMMENT. AGENDA ITEM 18. IS THERE ANYBODY IN PERSON THAT IS HERE TO SPEAK? DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE, SO IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE THAT IS HERE TO SPEAK? WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY SEEING THAT THERE IS NO ONE AT THIS TIME. I WILL NOW MOVE ON, UH, TO THE, THE SECOND TO LAST, THE PENULTIMATE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS. UH, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE MOVE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. I, I WOULD JUST, MR, I'D LIKE TO THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE AS A POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH. UM, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PROTESTS. THEY'RE GONNA GROW, UH, IN THE COMING MONTHS. UM, HISTORICALLY THEY'VE HAPPENED PRETTY INTENSELY OVER THE SUMMER WHEN THERE'S A LOT GOING ON POLITICALLY. UM, I, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A BRIEFING FROM DPD ABOUT, UH, WHAT THEY LEARNED IN 2020 DURING THE GEORGE FLOYD PROTESTS AND WHAT CHANGES THEY'VE MADE SINCE THEN, AND HOW THEY PLAN TO APPROACH, UM, HIGHER INTENSITY PROTESTS AS THEY RAMP UP THIS YEAR. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A USEFUL BRIEFING IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. GREAT IDEA. COOL. AGREE. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. THAT WILL DEFINITELY ADD A LOT IN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. AND THAT HAS BEEN HEARD NOTED. AND I'LL BE PASSED TOWARDS THE OFFICE FOR NEXT, NEXT MEETING. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? MR. CHAIR? YES. DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. YOU LIED. DID YOU SAY I LIED? , UH, OH. SHOULD WE, SHOULD THIS BE PUBLIC COMMENT ? WELL, DO WE DO, CAN I LEARN HOW I LIED? IS THAT, UH, THOSE OF US HERE? OH, I SAID IT WAS GONNA BE A SHORT MEETING. . WELL, RELATIVELY, WE, WE, WE IT'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN WORSE. THERE'S BEEN WORSE MEETINGS. UH, THAT'S [02:30:01] RIGHT. YEAH. . YOUR, YOUR DEFINITION OF SHORT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MOST OF US. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? YES, MS. KING, THERE'S A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? JUDGE LANDER SECOND. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY JUDGE LANDER. ANY DISCUSSION? THERE IS NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY. UH, MEETING IS OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED. 8 0 4. NOT BAD. YEAH. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.