[00:00:02] GOOD MORNING. IT IS NOW 9 A.M. ON APRIL 21ST, AND I'M CONVENING THE APRIL MEETING OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE. [Quality of Life, Arts and Culture Committee on April 21, 2025.] OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MARCH 25TH MINUTES. SO MOVED. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. MINUTES ARE APPROVED. NEXT ITEM IS ITEM A IN OUR AGENDA. EXTRAORDINARY NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS. ALL RIGHT. WELCOME, ROSA AND STAFF. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS MORNING. I'M ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES. AND WITH ME TODAY ARE MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR JACQUELINE JUSTICE, AND OUR TEAM MEMBER, DIRECTOR CHRIS CHRISTIAN FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CODE COMPLIANCE. WE'LL GO TO THE OVERVIEW, PLEASE. SO, THE BRIEFING WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU THIS MORNING PROVIDES THE FIRST STEP OR THE GROUNDWORK FOR ADDRESSING WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TERMING EXTRAORDINARY NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS OR EVENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY DIFFICULT TO MANAGE, OR FOR WHICH IT'S DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE UNADDRESSED BY CURRENT ORDINANCES OR CODE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO TODAY CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES AND CODE WILL PRESENT SUGGESTED DEFINITIONS AND LANGUAGE CHANGES TO CHAPTERS 42, 27 AND 51. A WHICH, IF APPROVED TODAY, WILL ALLOW US TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO CREATE SOME GUARDRAILS AROUND THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES. AND IF YOU RECALL, WE'VE BEEN ON TO THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE, AND YOUR COMMITTEE HAS REQUESTED THAT WE REVIEW CURRENT POLICIES TO BETTER MANAGE THESE EVENTS. AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT AS WE WALK AWAY TODAY, WE'VE PROVIDED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER POLICY DIRECTION THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JACQUELINE JUSTICE. GOOD MORNING. NEXT SLIDE. AS YOU CAN SEE CES OSE CURRENTLY PERMITS EVENTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS INCLUDING MARATHONS, BIKE RACES, COMMUNITY GATHERINGS AND HOME TOURS. IN FACT, THIS YEAR MARKS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE SWISS AVENUE MOTHER'S DAY HOME TOUR. NEXT SLIDE. NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS ARE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS OTHER EVENTS. COSTS, INCLUDING OFF DUTY POLICE AND EMS STAFFING, ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EVENT ORGANIZERS. ORGANIZERS MUST PROVIDE NOTIFICATIONS TO OUR RESIDENTS AT LEAST 15 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THEIR EVENT, AND THEY ARE ENCOURAGED TO USE PLATFORMS SUCH AS NEXTDOOR SIGNAGE AND OTHER METHODS TO INFORM THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT THE UPCOMING EVENT. NOW I'M GOING TO HAND THE PRESENTATION OVER TO CODE. GOOD MORNING. CHAIR COMMITTEE. JEREMY REED, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF CODE COMPLIANCE. FOR THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THE MAIN CODES THAT WE SEE ARE APPLICABLE TO SOME OF THESE SPECIAL OR SOME OF THESE EXTRAORDINARY EVENTS AT RESIDENCES. THE THRESHOLD WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVE A VIOLATION. AND THEN SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE SEE. SO FIRST, FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. WHAT CODE WOULD NEED TO SEE IN ORDER TO ALLEGE THAT THERE IS A SPECIAL EVENT IS THAT IT MEETS THIS DEFINITION. SO, I'VE PROVIDED THIS DEFINITION IN THE SLIDE, A TEMPORARY OUTDOOR GATHERING WITH AN EXPECTED TOTAL OF TOTAL ATTENDANCE OF GREATER THAN 100, WHICH INVOLVES ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING, SO YOU CAN READ WHAT THE CRITERION IS. CLOSING A STREET WOULD BE ONE OF THOSE IF THEY HAVE A VALET IN THE IN ONE OF THE LANES THAT WOULD MEET THE THRESHOLD. ALSO, THE ERECTION OF A TENT 400FT² OR GREATER. THAT'S A TENT OF A SIZE OF 20 BY 20 OR GREATER. SO, THE MAIN CHALLENGE HERE IS ACTUALLY ALLEGING THAT THERE IS AN EXPECTED OR ACTUAL TOTAL OF 100 OR MORE PERSONS THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME SORT OF VISUAL INSPECTION, SEEING THAT MANY PEOPLE, POSSIBLY THE AMOUNT OF CHAIRS SET UP IN A BACKYARD POSSIBLY THE AMOUNT OF CARS. AND SO, WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT AND THEN ALSO SHOW ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS A-I, NEXT SLIDE. FOR PARKING FOR CODE COMPLIANCE. THE PARKING THAT WE DEAL WITH IN CODE COMPLIANCE IS PARKING ON UNAPPROVED SURFACE. AND SO IN A RESIDENCE THIS COULD LOOK LIKE PARKING ON THE GRASS. PARKING ON THE DIRT APPROVED SURFACE IS HOT. MIX ASPHALT OR CONCRETE. AND THEN THAT'S FOR ALL OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THEN FOR RESIDENCES. [00:05:02] IT ALSO ALLOWS PARKING ON GRAVEL, CRUSHED CONCRETE, ETC. APPROVED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, WHICH IS GOING TO BE USUALLY SIX INCHES OR MORE WITH A DEFINED BORDER. RIGHT. SO NOT JUST GRAVEL DUMPED OUT IN THE YARD. WE HAVE TWO ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS FOR PARKING ON AN UNAPPROVED SURFACE. ONE IS TO GIVE A PARKING CITATION TO THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THAT VEHICLE. THE OTHER WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY REQUIRE THAT OR ACTUALLY ENFORCE AGAINST THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. WHO IS ALLOWING THAT. AND THAT CAN BE A CIVIL CITATION FOR THE OWNER. AFTER WE GIVE NOTICE THAT THEY SHOULD NOT ALLOW PARKING ON UNAPPROVED SURFACE AT THEIR PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE. FOR NOISE. I'VE SHOWN TWO DIFFERENT CODES HERE. ONE IS GOING TO BE FROM CHAPTER 30, WHICH DEALS EXPLICITLY IN ON THE TOPIC OF NOISE IN DALLAS CITY CODE. THE SECOND IS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE 51A-6. FOR CHAPTER 30. THE MAIN THRESHOLD FOR NOISE ACROSS THE CITY IS A PERSON COMMITS AN OFFENSE IF HE MAKES A NOISE THAT THE TO THE ORDINARY SENSIBILITIES OF INHABITANTS OF THE CITY IS DISTURBING. WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO SHOW OUT THERE IS ACTUALLY HAVE A WITNESS OF SOMEONE WHOSE SENSIBILITIES WERE DISTURBED. THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE WILLING TO BE THE WITNESS THERE. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WHICH IS ALSO GOING TO BE IN 51 SIX IS SAFETY. SO, THIS IS A CODE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WRITE A CRIMINAL CITATION FOR. AND WE HAVE TO ALLEGE WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE NOISE. SO, FOR CODE COMPLIANCE, WHAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE IS WE ACTUALLY FIND OUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE AT SUCH AN EVENT AT SUCH A HOUSE PARTY OR WHATEVER THE EVENT IS. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NOISE? WE'D HAVE TO GET THEIR IDENTIFICATION AND ISSUE A CRIMINAL CITATION. AND THE MAIN CHALLENGE THERE IS ONE OF SAFETY. CODE COMPLIANCE IS NOT EQUIPPED WITH THE RESOURCES ON OUR HIP. RIGHT. IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN KNOCK ON A DOOR THAT'S HAVING A RAUCOUS EVENT AND ADDRESS THAT SAFELY. THE OTHER ONE FOR CHAPTER 51 SIX IS VERY DIFFERENT, BUT IT HAS SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE DECIBEL THRESHOLDS SET ACROSS THE CITY. EVERY ZONING DISTRICT IN THE CITY HAS A DECIBEL LIMIT, AND IT VARIES DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S DAYTIME OR NIGHTTIME, ALL AS DEFINED IN THE CODE. AND THE ALLOWABLE LIMIT IS EITHER WHAT IS SET AT THAT ZONE OR FIVE DECIBELS OVER WHAT IS THE AMBIENT READING. AND SO, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO OUT THERE IS WE HAVE TO FIRST ESTABLISH WHAT IS AN AMBIENT READING AT THAT PROPERTY. MEANING WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO TAKE A READING OF DECIBELS OUTSIDE WHEN THE NOISE IS HAPPENING, AND ALSO A DECIBEL READING WHILE THE NOISE IS HAPPENING, IN ORDER TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE OVER THAT REQUIRED LIMIT. AND SO, SOME OF THE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES ARE THE SAME. IT'S GOING TO BE SAFETY. THIS ALSO REQUIRES THIS. THIS ALSO IS ONLY ABLE TO BE ENFORCED VIA A CRIMINAL CITATION. SO EVEN IF WE DO PROVE THAT THE NOISE IS TOO HIGH, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING WHO'S MAKING THE NOISE, GET THEIR IDENTIFICATION, AND ISSUE A CRIMINAL CITATION. AND THEN ONE OTHER CHALLENGE IS THE ACTUAL NOISE READING DEVICE. WE HAVE TO SET IT UP ON A TRIPOD, EITHER AT THE PROPERTY LINE OR ACROSS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE ADJACENT RIGHT OF WAY. AND WE HAVE TO TAKE AN EIGHT MINUTE AVERAGE READING. AND SO, SOME OF THESE EVENTS ARE OF THE NATURE THAT SETTING UP A TRIPOD AT THESE, AT THESE LOCATIONS IS ALSO NOT SAFE. AND DRAWS A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE CODE OFFICER DOING THE READING. NEXT SLIDE. FOR LIGHT GLARE. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE ONE OF THE MORE FREQUENT CODES THAT WE SEE BEING VIOLATED AT SPECIAL AT NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS. BUT THERE HAS BEEN THERE WAS A SITUATION LAST YEAR WITH THE HOLIDAY LIGHT SITUATION UP IN NORTH DALLAS, AND SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS HERE. THE THRESHOLD FOR A VIOLATION IS PRETTY SIMPLE. LIGHT GOING FROM ONE PRIVATE PROPERTY ONTO ANOTHER. IF WE CAN SHOW THAT LIGHT IS GOING FROM A LIGHT SOURCE, FROM ONE PRIVATE PROPERTY TO ANOTHER, THAT WILL CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION. ONE OF THE MAIN CHALLENGES IS WHILE IT'S A SIMPLE THRESHOLD, IT'S HARD TO PROVE SOMETIMES. THERE ARE OFTEN COMPETING LIGHT SOURCES. CAR LIGHTS, STREETLIGHTS PROVIDED BY THE CITY, OTHER PROPERTY LIGHTS. AND SO SOMETIMES IT'S A TRICKY BUSINESS FOR THE CODE OFFICER OUT AT A PROPERTY TO SHOW WITH ENOUGH PROOF THAT WOULD HOLD UP IN COURT WHICH LIGHT IS CROSSING WHICH PROPERTY LINE. BUT IF WE CAN DO THAT, THEN THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE. NEXT SLIDE. AND SO FINALLY THE BIG ONE LAND USE. THIS IS KIND OF THE MAIN TOPIC AT HAND. [00:10:01] RIGHT. ARE THESE PROPERTIES BEING USED AS A RESIDENCE OR ARE THEY BEING USED AS SOMETHING ELSE. AND SO, THE CODE AT HAND IS 51A-1. THERE IS A PROVISION IN 103 AND A PROVISION IN 104. THE BASELINE IS EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO IN THE CITY OF DALLAS REQUIRES A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, UNLESS IT'S RESIDENTS, A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE OR A DUPLEX, OR RATHER A HANDICAPPED GROUP DWELLING UNIT. SO, IF IT'S ANYTHING OTHER THAN THOSE, A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS REQUIRED. THE CHALLENGE IS ACTUALLY PROVING WHAT THE APPROPRIATE DESIGNATED LAND USE IS OF SOME OF THESE EVENTS. AND SO, ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S BROUGHT UP MOST OFTEN IS COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, BECAUSE IT GETS CLOSEST TO THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE SEE AT THESE EVENTS. BUT THE THRESHOLD FOR THE VIOLATION THERE IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY MEET THE DEFINITION OF COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, NAMELY, THAT THEY ARE OFFERING ENTERTAINMENT OR GAMES OF SKILL FOR A FEE. SO, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE DOING COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT AT A RESIDENCE, WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE OFFERING ENTERTAINMENT OR GAMES OF SKILL FOR A FEE. SOMETIMES WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. SOMETIMES THEY POST ONLINE TICKET SALES FOR A CONCERT, RIGHT? THAT THAT WOULD BE VERY CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT WE, THAT WE COULD USE. BUT SOMETIMES THEY'RE HAVING A BIG PARTY, AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE PAID TO BE THERE OR NOT. SOMETIMES IT'S A WEDDING. AND SO, SOME OF THOSE MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATELY PUSHED TOWARDS SPECIAL EVENTS, PERMIT ENFORCEMENT. BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE, THE, THE CRITERION THAT WE NEED TO LOOK FOR IN ORDER TO ALLEGE A VIOLATION. THANK YOU, JEREMY. SO, SEVERAL OF THE IMPACTED DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE ARE GENERAL FUND. AND SO, THESE RECOMMENDED GUARDRAILS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CHANGES IN LANGUAGE, CHANGES IN DEFINITIONS, ADDITIONS OF SOME GUARDRAILS THAT HELP US TO BETTER DEFINE WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY NEIGHBORHOOD EVENT IS AND GIVES CODE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT ARE THINGS ON WHICH WE WOULD LIKE A POLICY DECISION TODAY IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD. SO, IT WILL REDUCE TIME AND IT WILL REDUCE COST THAT ARE UNNECESSARILY WASTED IN BOTH PEOPLE, RESOURCES AND BUDGET. SO, JACKIE. THANK YOU, ROSA . TODAY WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS AIMED AT HELPING YOU EFFECTIVELY MANAGE THE IMPACT OF THESE NOTABLE NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS. MOST OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE CODE ENHANCEMENTS. AND SO, IF CHRIS OR JEREMY WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING, I'LL TAKE THEM. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE, CHRIS CHRISTIAN DIRECTOR OF CODE COMPLIANCE SERVICES. THE SUGGESTED ENHANCEMENTS WE HAVE FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW TODAY IS ONE, THE EXCESSIVE LIGHT NUISANCE TO JUST ADD SOME MORE TEETH TO THAT CODE FOR US, AND CONSIDER PROHIBITING LIGHTING THAT LEADS TO SUSTAINED GATHERINGS, TRAFFIC CONGESTION, OR BLOCKED EMERGENCY ACCESS, WHICH IS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE SAW IN THE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS SCENARIO IN NORTH DALLAS. AND ALSO CONSIDER MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS, INSPECTOR OBSERVATIONS AND PUBLIC SAFETY INPUT AS CRITERIA FOR IDENTIFYING PROBLEMATIC LIGHTING. AND SO JUST ENHANCING OUR CODE. WE WOULD LIKE TO POTENTIALLY ADD THIS IN CHAPTER 27, WHICH IS OUR MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS CODE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER FOR US TO GET DONE AND FOR US TO ENFORCE AS WELL. THE SECOND THING WE WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO LOOK AT IS A NEW LAND USE FOR EVENT VENUES. AND THIS WAS A DISCUSSION WE HAD. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAND USE PREVIOUSLY. I BELIEVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS ALREADY DRAFTED LANGUAGE FOR THIS LAND USE, AND IT PROVIDES A CLEAR DEFINITION AND THRESHOLD FOR EVENTS THAT WON'T NECESSARILY IMPACT PRIVATE GATHERINGS OF HOMEOWNERS BUT WILL DEFINITELY ADDRESS THE EVENT VENUE TYPE OF USE THAT WE'RE FINDING IN SOME OF THESE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO, WE WOULD LIKE THE BODY TO RECONSIDER THAT LAND USE. AND THE LAST ONE IS YOURS, ROSA? YES. THE LAST ONE IS DEFINING EXTRAORDINARY NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS. IN CHAPTER 42, A POSSIBLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND THAT WOULD BASICALLY GIVE US THRESHOLDS FOR REQUIRING A PERMIT, A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT THROUGH CHAPTER 42 A OKAY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND SO, IF APPROVED TODAY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE DEFINITION ENHANCEMENTS AND CHANGES TO CODE WILL START TO COLLABORATE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND OUR OTHER PARTNER DEPARTMENTS, AND THEN WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK AND BRIEF THE COMMITTEE AGAIN IN JUNE WITH THAT LANGUAGE AND START TO LOOK AT MAKING THEM PERMANENT POLICY FOR ORDINANCES AND CODE CHANGES. SO, WITH THAT, WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? MISS SCHULTZ? THANK YOU. I THINK THERE'S TWO PIECES TO THIS. [00:15:05] ONE IS THE PARTICULAR EXTRAORDINARY EVENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE LIGHTING. AND I SEE THE RESPONSE TO THAT. WHAT I WANT TO BE REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FOR THIS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THAT LIGHTING PROHIBITION, I MEAN, THAT COULD, AND YOU KNOW, MANY OF US DRIVE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, STREETS. SO WOULD WE NOT BE ABLE TO DO THOSE ANYMORE? HOW DO WE DO THAT. RIGHT. SO, TO ME, WHAT MIGHT BE A CLEANER SOLUTION TO THESE PROBLEMS, WHETHER IT'S AT THE BLOCK LEVEL, BECAUSE MY ENTIRE BLOCK IS DECIDED TO LIGHT OUR HOUSES. AND SO THERE'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE TRAFFIC CONGESTION WHEN PEOPLE SLOW DOWN BY EACH HOUSE, OR EVEN ONE PARTICULAR HOUSE THAT'S DECIDED TO DO IT. AND WHETHER IT'S CHRISTMAS LIGHTS OR A PARTY AND I KNOW CODE, YOU ALL HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH ME IN TERMS OF THESE PARTIES. BUT IF YOU GO BACK TO THE DEFINITION, WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IF A SIMPLE SOLUTION AND MAYBE I'M OVERSIMPLIFYING IT. SORRY, BUT ON PAGE ON SLIDE SIX WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT THE THRESHOLD FOR A VIOLATION, WHY COULDN'T WE SIMPLY DEFINE A SPECIAL EVENT AS THE ANYTHING GREATER THAN 100 PERIOD? IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER GOING TO BE SLOWLY DRIVING BY THAT IT'S GOING TO DRAW 100 PEOPLE, RIGHT? OR IT'S GOING TO LAND 100 PEOPLE. THEN YOU NEED A SPECIAL PERMIT. AND WHETHER IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S DOING IT AT CHRISTMAS TIME OR A PARTICULAR HOUSE OR A PARTY OR WHATEVER, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF JUST SIMPLY SAYING, IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE AT YOUR AREA AND YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT, YOU WILL BE SHUT DOWN? THANK YOU. JACKIE JUSTICE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES. WE WILL LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DEFINE THAT, BUT CURRENTLY WE DO DEFINE EXPECTED TOTAL ATTENDANCE IN CHAPTER 42 A AS IF YOU ARE EXPECTING THAT ATTENDANCE. AND THAT INCLUDES YOUR VOLUNTEERS AND YOUR STAFF AT THE EVENT. CURRENTLY IT DOES READ, YOU KNOW, AND ONE OF THESE TRIGGERS AND I'M SAYING PERIOD. AND ONE OF THESE TRIGGERS OR ONE OF THESE TRIGGERS AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M, YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING. SO MY QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER TO YOU WOULD BE, WOULD THAT BE A CUMULATIVE 100? YES. AND SO, YES, THERE WERE 20 PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET AND 20 MORE PEOPLE. YES. IF IT ROSE TO 100, THEN YES. THEN CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION. YEAH. AND THEN YOU'RE DONE. THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHETHER IT'S LIGHTING OR NOISE OR WHATEVER IT IS. I MEAN, THAT'S EVEN FOR SMALLER EVENTS. THE LIGHTING AND THE NOISE WOULD STILL APPLY, BUT MOST CERTAINLY AT 100 PEOPLE. CUMULATIVE THRESHOLD. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON. THEN YOU'RE DONE. THAT'S IT. YOU GOT TO GET A PERMIT. I THINK IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE HELPFUL. I WOULD CAUTION YOU THAT SOMETIMES WE FIND THAT LESS THAN 100 PEOPLE COULD BE JUST AS DISRUPTIVE. NO, 100%. SO NO PUN INTENDED, BUT NO, NO, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THESE THINGS. BUT RATHER THAN STARTING VIOLATIONS. GOTCHA. YEAH. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE I'M NOT BEING VERY ARTICULATE. SO, BEEFING UP THE LANGUAGE IN CHAPTER 42, THE DEFINITION FOR EVENT REQUIRING A PERMIT WITH THE 100, BUT ALSO GIVING US OUR CODE ENHANCEMENTS TO ADDRESS THE DISRUPTION. THANK YOU. PERFECT. AND THEN ONE VERY QUICK SMALL THING. DOES THE CITY OWN A SOUND METER? I GET REQUESTS ALL THE TIME FROM NEIGHBORHOODS SAYING MY NEIGHBORS TOO LOUD. BUT DO WE OWN A SOUND METER? YES. CODE COMPLIANCE HAS SEVERAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MISS WILLIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S ATTENTION TO THIS BECAUSE WE'VE SPENT SO MUCH QUALITY TIME WORKING ON THIS THROUGH PHONE CALLS AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. AND SO, I MEAN, WHAT THIS REFLECTS IS A GROWING CITY WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT USES. I MEAN, IT'S 2025 AND THINGS CHANGE. AND SO, SO OUR PERMITTING, OUR CODES, ETC. MUST CHANGE AS WELL TO BE RESPONSIVE. AND SO AT THE CORE OF THIS THOUGH, WE'RE CALLING THIS EXTRAORDINARY NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS. IT'S REALLY ABOUT EXTRAORDINARY NEIGHBORHOOD DISRUPTION. AND SO THAT'S THE COVENANT OF A CITY. I THINK THAT YOU HAVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT'S SAFE AND PEACEFUL, AND YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT TO ENJOY THAT. SO THERE ARE A FEW POINTS ON HERE. AND WHILE I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN GETTING KIND OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT OF SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHANGE MORE QUICKLY AND THEN OTHER THAT NEEDS MORE STUDY. I KNOW IN THE MEMO THAT I HAD SENT TO CHAIR RIDLEY, I HAD ABOUT EIGHT DIFFERENT POINTS THAT SHOULD BE EXAMINED. SO, I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THAT WE CONTINUE WORKING ON THOSE. BUT ALONG THE THOUGHT AND THE POINT THAT MR. CHRISTIAN JUST MADE, SOMETIMES FEWER THAN 100 PEOPLE CAN BE A DISRUPTION. [00:20:02] SO, WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT ONE THING THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME IS THAT THERE WAS A COURT, WELL, A SUPREME COURT CASE OSBORNE VERSUS POWER IN LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS, AND IT CALLED OUT SOMETHING INTERESTING ABOUT THE PROPER PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL SIZED DECORATIONS IS NOT WITHIN A QUIET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO THAT BRINGS WITH IT A VOLUME OF PEOPLE, AND I MIGHT ADD TO THE. HUNDRED PEOPLE THRESHOLD. MAYBE THIS IS OVER 2 OR 3 SUCCESSIVE DAYS BECAUSE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WE DON'T WANT TO DISRUPT PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND LOOKING AT LIGHTS OR. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT IS NOT AT ALL WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. BUT WHEN YOU CROSS OVER INTO. WHAT IS DESCRIBED IN THIS CASE AS COMMERCIAL. BECAUSE WHAT I WAS WORKING WITH WAS DEFINITELY. LOOKED VERY COMMERCIAL IN NATURE. IT WAS EXTRAORDINARY. IT WAS REALLY COOL, BUT NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF. A CITY STREET, A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET. SO, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK AT THAT. MAYBE THERE'S SOME GUIDANCE WE COULD FIND THERE TO HELP DEFINE IT, AND THEN MAYBE ALSO LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF SUCCESSIVE DAYS OF DISRUPTION BECAUSE THIS BUILT OVER SEVERAL DAYS. AND THEN NEXT THING WE KNOW WE'RE HAVING TO CALL IN DPD ET CETERA. MISS FLEMING, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAS PERHAPS ALLOWING A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR CRIME WATCH GROUP, WHATEVER THAT GROUP IS, TO GET A QUICK PERMIT FOR BLOCKADES ON A STREET, IF NECESSARY. TELL ME WHAT YOU WERE ABLE TO FIND OUT ABOUT THAT AND WHO WOULD POTENTIALLY MANAGE THAT. SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE I LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ ABOUT THE 100 ADDING SUCCESSIVE DAYS AND PUTTING SOME OR STATEMENTS IN THE IN THE CHAPTER SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST HITTING 1 OR 2 ITEMS, BUT IT COULD BE 75 PEOPLE IF IT HITS OTHER THINGS LIKE SIZE LIMITS, CONTINUOUS OBSTRUCTION. SO, WE DID LOOK AT THAT, AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT BLOCKAGES THAT WOULD CREATE FOR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I THINK THAT JACKIE HAS I'VE ASKED HER, AND SHE HAS DONE IT, GONE AND LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES TO SEE WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IN TERMS OF BLOCKING STREETS, ET CETERA. DO YOU WANT TO COVER THAT A LITTLE BIT? SURE. THANK YOU, ROSA. SO AS FAR AS A QUICK PERMIT, WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO WORKING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN ANY SORT OF QUICK FASHION THAT WE CAN. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CLOSURES DON'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE RESIDENTS AS WELL, WHO ARE TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT. WE DID WE DID LOTS OF RESEARCH ON, ON THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS AND OTHER CITIES. AND, YOU KNOW, SOME EXAMPLES WERE TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, IS THAT THEY MOVED THOSE COMMERCIAL SIZED DECORATIONS TO A PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITY OR A PARK WHERE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD DRIVE THROUGH AND LOOK AT THEM. I KNOW THAT WAS A POPULAR SOLUTION. AND THEN OTHERS, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD ADD TRAFFIC PERSONNEL OR DPD OR POLICE PERSONNEL TO HELP MANAGE THE TRAFFIC. BUT YES, CESOSE IS HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO QUICKLY MANAGE AND EFFICIENTLY MANAGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC. AND IT'S REALLY THE FLIP SIDE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THIS IS TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS. SO THEY ACTUALLY TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO ERECT BARRICADES AND HAVE THEIR E&P OFFICERS MAN THEM. SO, THE RESIDENTS ONLY COULD GET IN AND OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE PROBABLY HAVE RULES ABOUT THE USE OF A CITY STREET, BUT THAT'S WHY A PERMIT WOULD COME INTO PLACE TO PROTECT THOSE RESIDENTS SO THEY COULD GET IN AND OUT WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT TWO HOURS TO GET TO THEIR OWN HOME. THAT'S CORRECT. AND IF WE WERE ABLE TO CAPTURE THESE EXTRAORDINARY NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS IN CHAPTER 42, THE PRE-PLANNING WOULD HAPPEN WITH OUR POLICE PERSONNEL, WITH OUR TRAFFIC AND PUBLIC WORKS. THEY WOULD TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REVIEW TRAFFIC PLANS IN ADVANCE AND THEN EXECUTE THEM SO THAT THEY WORK TO THEIR BEST. AND ADDED TO THAT, I THINK OUR ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS, TO THEN WORK WITH SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT SOME KIND OF PILOTING GROUP TOGETHER TO LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND THE HOAS, SO THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOME GUARDRAILS THEY CAN PUT WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THEMSELVES, PARTICULARLY IN THE HOA AREAS, AND THEN WE CAN USE THOSE AS PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE TEETH TO WHAT CODE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENFORCE. AND THEN TO THAT POINT, TO JACKIE'S POINT IS CONTROLLING SOME OF THE COSTS. THERE'S A LOT OF EXPENDITURE THAT GOES INTO CALLING POLICE AND CODE AT THE LAST MINUTE. [00:25:08] CHRISTIAN. YEAH. THANKS, ROSA. THAT'S A FANTASTIC POINT AND I'M GLAD YOU MADE IT. I DON'T HAVE THOSE FIGURES HERE WITH ME TODAY, BUT A LOT OF THE TIME WITH THESE EVENTS IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S A REACTIVE RESPONSE. AND SO WE DID NOT KNOW THE EVENT OR PARTY WAS GOING TO GATHER OR WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. WE GET THE CALL, OR WE GET THE EMAIL LATE AT NIGHT ON A FRIDAY OR A SATURDAY, AND TYPICALLY WE HAVE TO PULL STAFF OFF OF OTHER DUTIES OR ACTIVITIES AND DISPATCH THEM THERE. AND THEN THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ENCOUNTER THAT WE JUST WENT OVER THROUGH THE CODE OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WHEN WE GET THERE IS REALLY NOT AN EFFICIENT USE OF RESOURCES. AND SO, THAT'S A LINGERING CONCERN, IS THAT ALL OF THIS SUGGESTS ORDER PRE-PLANNING, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SOMETIMES IT'S JUST NOT ONLY THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY PRE-PLANNING, IT'S THAT, IT'S JUST DISREGARDED WHATEVER THERE IS. AND SO, AND IN FACT, MAYBE THAT'S THE THRILL OF IT IS THE DISORDER AND THE STRAIN ON RESOURCES AND ON NEIGHBORS' KIND OF BEING UNNEIGHBORLY. SO THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT. AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT A WORKING GROUP TOGETHER I KNOW I'VE GOT SOME VOLUNTEERS ON DELOACH WHO'D BE HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE ON RESOURCE ALLOCATION. I WANTED TO ADD A FEW THINGS TO THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THIS PAGE JUST TO SHOW COLLEAGUES AND THE PUBLIC AND OTHER STAFF THAT WHEN RESOURCES ARE DISPROPORTIONATE IN ONE AREA, IT AFFECTS THE EQUITABLE ABILITY TO APPLY THOSE SERVICES ACROSS THE CITY. AND SO SOME, I WOULD ADD, IS MCPS OFFICES THAT TOOK US OFF OF DOING SOME WORK WITH OTHER RESIDENTS. AS, AS WE HAD TO SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME ON THIS, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE HAD TO EXPLORE SO MANY LEGAL PATHWAYS AND WHAT WAS THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE COULD DO. YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ELSE. AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT AN EQUITABLE CITY, WE TALK ABOUT HOAS AND, WELL, NOT EVERYBODY HAS AN HOA. IN FACT, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A TRUE HOA. AND SO, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT CAN A GROUP OF NEIGHBORS, NEIGHBORS DO TO GALVANIZE WHEN THEY'RE HAVING AN ISSUE AND THAT WE DON'T TRIP THEM UP WITH SAYING, WELL, YOU'RE NOT AN ORGANIZED HOA OR YOU DON'T HAVE THESE BYLAWS BECAUSE WE PLUMBED THE DEPTHS OF ALL OF THIS. AND AS NOT HAVING AN HOA WITH PREDETERMINED REGULATIONS, IT'S AFTER THE FACT THEY CAN'T REALLY GO IN AND EXPECT EVERYONE TO OPT IN BECAUSE WE KNOW NOT EVERYBODY WILL. SO THAT DOESN'T PROTECT THEM EITHER. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT UP AROUND SAFETY AND ENFORCING VIOLATIONS. THIS IS THE RUB, MY COLLEAGUES, IS THAT WE DO HAVE RULES ON THE BOOKS. BUT SETTING UP A TRIPOD AND DRAWING ATTENTION, THAT'S A SAFETY CONCERN. YOU KNOW, AN EIGHT MINUTE READING. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE STANDARD OR IF THAT'S MALLEABLE. CAN A DRONE DO THIS INSTEAD OF IS THERE TECHNOLOGY OUT THERE THAT WE CAN GAUGE THIS IN A WAY THAT IS NOT GOING TO PUT AN EMPLOYEE IN THE WAY OF SOMEONE IN AN ALTERED STATE, OR AN ANGERED STATE THAT WOULD THREATEN THEM OR HARM THEM. BUT IS THERE ANOTHER WAY WE COULD GET THIS READING. I JUST THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY BE CREATIVE ON HOW WE DO THIS, BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF DEFAULTING TO, THIS IS THE WAY WE'VE DONE IT, AND NOW WE'RE HEARING, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT THAT WAY BECAUSE IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. SO IT'S JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO ON. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS, THOSE ARE FANTASTIC POINTS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WHAT I WOULD JUST SAY IS THAT TYPICALLY IN CITIES I'VE RESEARCHED CITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. AND CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT THE GO TO ENFORCEMENT ARM FOR RESIDENTIAL NOISE AFTER HOURS FOR THE SAFETY REASON. IT'S JUST, IT'S TYPICALLY HANDLED BY LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND SO, FOR CODE COMPLIANCE TO DO IT, OUR CODES WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED TO ENABLE US TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT THAT'S SAFE. AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT THE CURRENT CODES THAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOK, EVEN IF A DRONE TOOK THE READING FOR US, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE DOOR, ACCESS THE PARTY BASICALLY, AND IDENTIFY WHO IS CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING THE NOISE NUISANCE. THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY THAT PERSON. ANOTHER THING CODE COMPLIANCE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IS TO DETAIN ANYBODY. AND SO WE CAN'T FORCE ANYONE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES TO US. AND WE CAN'T FORCE ANYONE TO REMAIN IN A PLACE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO BE. AND SO THOSE ARE VERY REAL CHALLENGES IN IDENTIFYING SOMEONE AND ISSUING A CRIMINAL CITATION TO THEM. SO THE BULLIES WIN AND WE DON'T WANT THE BULLIES TO WIN. SO I SAY WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY IN THE COUNTRY FACING THIS. I'M SURE MANY ARE. AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE DONE RESEARCH ON THIS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'VE EXPLORED ALL OF THIS, BUT WE'VE JUST WE'VE GOT TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING AN EMPLOYEE IN HARM'S WAY, THAT WE'RE NOT LETTING SOMEONE BULLY NEIGHBORS AND BULLY THE CITY INTO HAVING THESE PRACTICES WHERE WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GET IT DOWN TO THIS FINE POINT OF FINALLY HOLDING SOMEONE LIABLE. [00:30:02] THERE MAY BE OTHER WAYS IN 2025, AND BEYOND THAT, WE CAN DOCUMENT THIS, AND WHETHER IT'S A CHANGE TO OUR CODE OR THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THERE ARE LEGALITIES AROUND THIS, BUT I JUST I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE UP ON THIS BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED TO ME. BUT THIS CAN HAPPEN IN ANY, ANY DISTRICT. THE LAST THING I'LL MAKE THE POINT OF, AND THIS GOES BACK TO COMMERCIAL, IS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT LIGHTING AND GLARE IS ALSO COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, STROBE LIGHTS, FLASHING LIGHTS. I MEAN, THESE NEIGHBORS HAD THINGS GOING IN THEIR WINDOW LIKE THEY WERE INSIDE A DISCO OR CLUB OR SOMETHING. AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE DEGREE OF WHAT, WHAT'S DISRUPTIVE, WHAT IS ALLOWABLE IN AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, BUT THAT WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO HAVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DISRUPTING GOING THROUGH CHILDREN'S WINDOWS AND PEOPLE'S WINDOWS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. SO, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP. I GUESS WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS YOU'RE ASKING US TO. TO TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL, MR. CHAIR. BEFORE I RESPOND TO THAT, I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMAN GRACEY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. AND, AND MY COLLEAGUE GAY DONNELL WILLIS, SHE WAS I KNEW SHE WAS GOING TO SAY MOST OF WHAT I WAS THINKING. I'LL JUST KIND OF START HERE, I THINK, BECAUSE MY NOTES ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. BUT THE FIRST ONE, YOU HAVE THIS. I THINK YOU'RE RECOMMENDATION FOR CRITERIA TO IDENTIFY PROBLEMATIC LIGHTING. AND I'D LIKE TO JUST SEE IF WE CAN CHANGE THAT TO JUST PROBLEMATIC AREAS IN GENERAL, BECAUSE ONE, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. BUT THIS PRESENTATION IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT A MULTITUDE OF ISSUES. SO, IF WE COULD CHANGE IT TO JUST CRITERIA FOR IDENTIFYING PROBLEMATIC AREAS. AND THE REASON I WANT TO START THERE IS BECAUSE I THINK THAT GIVES YOU, I DON'T KNOW, THIS TECHNOLOGY, BUT I WAS KIND OF CHUCKLING TO MYSELF WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DECIMALS, THE LIGHTING, I MEAN, THE NOISE AND ALL OF THAT. AND I'M LIKE, WHO'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEASURE THAT? YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY GOT AN APP FOR IT BY NOW, BUT STILL. AND THEN ALL OF THE DIFFICULTIES YOU HAVE IN GOING TO TRY TO SET UP THE POD AND ALL OF THIS AND NOT BE NOTICED AND ALL THAT. I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT, BUT SETTING UP A CRITERIA TO IDENTIFY PROBLEMATIC, PROBLEMATIC AREAS IN MY MIND SUGGEST THAT YOU COULD THEN BE ABLE TO, IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A REPEAT, SAY IT'S A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND YOU KNOW IT'S A REPEAT ISSUE, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS THE ABILITY. YOU CAN GO AND SET THOSE DECIBEL, THOSE SOUND TESTERS UP IN ADVANCE. SO MAYBE IT'S ON A STREETLIGHT OR MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IF IT'S CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. OR DO THEY HAVE TECHNOLOGY THAT DOES THAT, NOT THE DEVICE THAT WE CURRENTLY OWN. COUNCIL MEMBER. BUT THERE ARE DEVICES LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO POTENTIALLY. SO, FROM A BUDGETING PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. BECAUSE AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT YOUR SAFETY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. BUT WHAT ARE WAYS WE CAN BE PREEMPTIVE IN THIS SENSE? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THESE ISSUES EXIST. AND THEN AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO KEEP OUR STAFF CERTAINLY SAFE. AND WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED, YOU KNOW, FOR MORE OFFICERS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. BUT IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN BEGIN, YOU ALL CAN SET UP THE TECHNOLOGY TO BEGIN MEASURING IN THESE PROBLEMATIC AREAS. THEN PERHAPS IT'S NOT YOU THAT'S GOING ON THOSE CALLS NOW. IT'S AN OFFICER THAT'S GOING TO A SPECIFIC VIOLATION, NOT JUST A COMPLAINT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN THE PROPER LIGHTING, BECAUSE I KNOW OVER ON BANNING STREET, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN OVER THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES AND THEY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE, THE LIGHTING. AND IT WAS REALLY FROM THE BUSINESSES. AND THESE ARE THE BUSINESSES ATTEMPTING TO TO KEEP THEIR PROPERTY SAFE AS WELL. SO, I'M ASKING I KNOW YOU ALL DO THOSE CLASSES FOR BUSINESSES. DO YOU ALL TALK ABOUT THE PROPER LIGHTING? WHAT IS THAT BALANCE BETWEEN TOO BRIGHT AND SAFE? AND IF NOT, CAN THAT BE A PARTICULAR SOMETHING TO HELP BUSINESSES UNDERSTAND. HERE IS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T CREATE. AND AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WAYS WE CAN BE PREEMPTIVE ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. WE DO SPEAK WITH COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES OFTEN ON THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO. I'M NOT SURE IF WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY, THE BALANCE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT RESIDENCES, USUALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP. USUALLY, MORE LIGHT IS BETTER. I MEAN, USUALLY ACROSS THE CITY WE WANT MORE LIGHT. MORE LIGHT MEANS SAFE. MORE LIGHT MEANS VISIBILITY FOR A PLETHORA OF REASONS. AND SO IT'S THIS. IT'S THIS ONCE YOU GET INTO THE RESIDENTIAL SPACES, WHEN PEOPLE START TO SEE YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH LIGHTING. AND CERTAINLY ON THE DISTRICT BORDERS BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENCES, WE'VE SEEN THAT A LOT. WE'VE TALKED TO THOSE THOSE COMMERCIAL OPERATORS. IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY ACROSS THE BOARD TRAININGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR BUSINESSES, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT. WELL, I WOULD RECOMMEND COMING UP WITH A LIGHTING STANDARD THAT THAT KEEPS THE AREA WELL LIT, BUT DOESN'T CREATE A NUISANCE FOR THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I SEE IN MY DISTRICT. I RIDE AROUND I ATTEND, [00:35:04] YOU KNOW, COMING RIDING AROUND LATE AT NIGHT. YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S A LOT OF LIGHT, AND YOU GO, OH, MAN, THAT ONE JUST LOOKS LIKE DAYLIGHT. BUT IT'S IN A FAR ENOUGH SPACE AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL THAT IT MAKES SENSE. SO JUST HELPING THEM DO THAT AND THEN OH. ON THE PARKING FINES YOU MENTIONED TRYING TO DETERMINE IF YOU FIND THE OWNER OF THE HOME OR THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. AND MY QUESTION IS, CAN YOU DO BOTH? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SHORT ANSWER IS YES. SO, IF WE COME TO A PROPERTY WHERE THERE'S A CAR PARKED ON THE GRASS, YES, IT WOULD BE SEPARATE VIOLATIONS. WE COULD GIVE A PARKING, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE, LITTLE TRANSPORTATION PARKING CITATION ON THE VEHICLE TO THE REGISTERED OWNER PER THE LICENSE PLATE. WE COULD ALSO ADDRESS THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY. AND IS THAT A RECOMMENDATION YOU'RE ASKING FOR OR IS THAT A THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE CODE OKAY. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN LASTLY, AND I MENTIONED THIS TO THE CHAIR AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING AN AS BEST AS YOU CAN, A GREAT JOB IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THE ISSUES AND GOING OUT. AND I KNOW IN MY AREA WE HAVE REPEATED AREAS THAT YOU ALL CONTINUE TO GO TO. AND EVENTUALLY I GUESS, AT WHAT POINT DOES IT GO? AND I GUESS AND I'M ASKING PUBLICLY NOW, AND I TALKED TO THE CHAIR JUST EARLIER ABOUT HAVING A BRIEFING FROM COMMUNITY PROSECUTION, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE REPEAT VIOLATIONS IN THE SAME AREA, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROBLEMATIC AREAS. AND IF WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE REPEAT AT WHAT POINT AND AT HOW MANY TIMES BEFORE IT GOES TO COMMUNITY PROSECUTION, AND THEN AT HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? SO, I GUESS I'M JUST MR. CHAIR ASKING, AND I'LL SEND YOU A MEMO FOR A BRIEFING FROM COMMUNITY PROSECUTION TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS. FROM THE TIME YOU ALL STEP ON THE SCENE TO POLICE OR WHOMEVER UNTIL WE GET TO A RESOLUTION THAT CREATES A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. SO, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DO HAVE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE MARATHON THAT COMES THROUGH. WE HAVE TONS OF HALLOWEENS, JULY 4TH, NOT A BIG CHRISTMAS, BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DO A CHRISTMAS. THEY DO DECORATE FOR CHRISTMAS AND THE HOLIDAYS. SO, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS IF WE DO THE THRESHOLD, WILL THAT IF WE DO THE THRESHOLD AND THEN DO THE OARS, KIND OF LIKE THERE'S MORE STUFF. WILL THAT HELP YOU BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO? SO, OUR GOAL IN THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND CONVENTION EVENT SERVICES IS TO BE A ONE STOP, RIGHT? SO, THAT CHAPTER 42A IS MEANT TO BE HELPFUL. IT'S MEANT TO HELP DEPARTMENTS LIKE CODE BE ABLE TO ATTACH THIS ORDINANCE TO THEIR ORDINANCE SO THEY CAN ENFORCE. SO IN TERMS OF THAT, YES. AND I'LL LET CHRISTIAN DIRECTOR CHRISTIAN GO INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT, BECAUSE I THINK YOU DIDN'T HAVE TOOLS IN WHICH TO PROTECT THIS KIND OF CHAOS, IF YOU WILL, TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. DOES THIS GIVE YOU THE TOOLS THAT YOU NEED, THAT IT'S NOT DIRECTLY GOING TO MOVING OUR OFFICERS, BUT WHAT YOU NEED, AND YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY DO ENFORCEMENT? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING HERE TODAY WITH THE EXCESSIVE LIGHT NUISANCE THAT'S TO ADDRESS THE, THE ONE PROBLEM. AND THEN WE HAVE THE EVENT VENUE LAND USE DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THE OVERARCHING PROBLEM OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES BEING USED AS EVENT SPACES AND BEING RENTED AS EVENT SPACES. THESE TWO. ANY LEVEL, LIKE IF IT'S AN STR OR EVEN IF YOU LIVE THERE AND YOU HAVE A HALLOWEEN PARTY. SO, AT MY RECOLLECTION, THE DRAFT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DRAFTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REQUIRES THAT THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE HOUSE TO BE THE PERSON THAT IS HAVING THE PRIVATE GATHERING FOR IT TO BE LEGITIMATE. OKAY. IF IT'S NOT THE PERSON WHO OWNS THE HOUSE, IF IT'S SOMEONE WHO HAS RENTED THE HOUSE, THAT DOESN'T, THEN THAT WOULD NOT BE A LEGITIMATE. THAT'S A REASON TO DENY. SO THIS DOES GIVE US TOOLS. NOW, AS FAR AS THE NOISE, CONVERSATION AND DISCUSSION THAT NO MATTER HOW WE RECORD THE NOISE OR WE REACH THE THRESHOLD, THE QUESTION STILL BECOMES THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE. AND HOW DO WE DETAIN AND IDENTIFY THE PERSON IN CHARGE AND CULPABLE FOR THE NOISE? OKAY. THAT'S WHAT'S PROBLEMATIC FOR CODE. WE WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF LANGUAGE WE COULD POTENTIALLY MODIFY IN THE CODE TO MAYBE CREATE SOME TYPE OF PRESUMPTION THAT IF IT'S HAPPENING AT A PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NOISE. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE PERSON WHO IS CAUSING THE NOISE AND CITE THEM. AND SO, WELL, AND CHRIS I MEAN DO BECAUSE THESE EVENTS PROBABLY HAPPEN AFTER HOURS. YES, MA'AM. ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT? BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THE RULES ON THE BOOKS, THE LAST THING THAT WE WANT IS NOT TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE, AND IT NEEDS TO BE PRETTY TIMELY, I WOULD THINK. YOU CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT MORNING. ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A ONETIME EVENT. [00:40:04] YES, MA'AM. AND SO, IF WE MOVE IN A DIRECTION OF MODIFYING THE CODE TO GIVE CODE A SAFER AND MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO ENFORCE NOISE AFTER HOURS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THEN WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT STAFFING AND RESOURCES TO DO SO. OKAY. AND THEN FINALLY I ASK THAT WE IF WE DO WHEN WE DO THIS, THAT THERE IS A RUNWAY OF SOME SORT, MAYBE 30 TO 60 DAYS, BECAUSE WE NEED TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHAT THE NEW PROCESS IS BECAUSE AND MAYBE IT'S HAPPENING NOW, BUT WE NEED TO GO OUT TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE US STUFF TO PUT IN OUR NEWSLETTERS TO SEND OUT TO NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, COME AND MEET WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, BECAUSE THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS SOMETHING LIKE THE LAKEWOOD JULY 4TH THAT GETS KIND OF CAUGHT UP IN ALL THIS, AND NOW THEY'VE GOT A WHOLE NEW PROCESS AND IT'S THREE DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT. RIGHT. SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALLOWING THOSE EVENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRETTY GOOD AND KIND OF ON A ROTATION TO NOT BE SURPRISED, BUT THEN AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GO THROUGH SITUATIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST OF THESE POP UPS. RIGHT? THAT JUST KIND OF HAPPEN. AND BAM, NOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, FACING A SITUATION. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND TO TAG ALONG TO THAT, WE WOULD DO IT IN A SIMILAR WAY THAT WE DID THE HIGH IMPACT AREAS AND HOW WE DID THE REGISTRATION PROMOTERS REGISTRATION SO THAT WE GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND HERE IS HOW WE WERE DOING IT BEFORE. HERE'S THE CHANGES. HERE'S KIND OF THE INTERMEDIATE DATE WHERE THINGS WILL TAKE EFFECT, A GRACE PERIOD AND THEN IMPLEMENTATION. SO WE WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS TO DO SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. WE'LL GO ONLINE NOW. VICE CHAIR RESENDEZ. ANY QUESTIONS? GENTLEMEN? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I DO APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. HOWEVER, I DO HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON SHARED ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE WE HAVE, OBVIOUSLY ENFORCEMENT ISSUES WITH THE NOISE AND NUISANCE ISSUES THAT WE DEAL WITH ON, ON A DAILY AND WEEKEND BASIS. NOT EVEN RELATED TO LARGE EVENTS. SOMEONE WAS TEXTING ME THIS WEEKEND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LOUD PARTY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE FOR US TO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION. SO, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE NOISE AND NUISANCE ISSUES THAT OUR RESIDENTS DEAL WITH ON, ON, ON A DAILY BASIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. BAZALDUA, ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'LL GO AHEAD AND PIGGYBACK. ON WHAT? MR. RESENDEZ JUST MENTIONED. THE I THINK THE ENFORCEMENT IS REALLY MY BIGGEST. I DON'T OPPOSE WHAT YOU'RE. YOU'RE ASKING WHAT STAFF IS ASKING AS FAR AS RECOMMENDATIONS. HOWEVER, THE ENFORCEMENT TO ME IS IS VERY INEQUITABLE. WE HAVE ISSUES. I'VE HAD ISSUES AT ONE PROPERTY, FOR INSTANCE, FOR YEARS NOW WITH NO RELIEF TO THE RESIDENTS FROM A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ADJACENT TO A PARK AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, CHANGING POLICY IS GREAT. I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE TOOLS THAT'S NEEDED. BUT THE RELIEF THAT COMES FROM IT TO ME. I'M CURIOUS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO FEEL THAT WE'VE HAD YEARS OF COMPLAINTS WHERE IT'S BEEN, THEN A POINTING FINGER GAME FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT TO THE POLICE TO ITS PROXIMITY TO A PARK, AND THEN IT FALLS ON THE MARSHALS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST BEEN THIS ONGOING ISSUE SPECIFICALLY WITH ONE NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR AND A VERY PROBLEMATIC PROPERTY. WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARTIES AND THE NOISES. SO, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AND EXPLAIN WHY EVEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS PRESENTED SHOULD GIVE ME HOPE THAT ANYTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. SO, AS IT STANDS CURRENTLY, AFTER HOURS NOISE COMPLAINTS DISRUPTIONS IS A DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT CONCERN? WHEN THE CONCERN COMES IN, WHEN IT'S CALLED IN TO 311 IS NOT DISPATCHED TO CODE COMPLIANCE. IT'S DISPATCHED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND SO, WHAT WE HAVE IS A PRIORITY TIER BASED RESPONSE SYSTEM IN POLICE. AND I THINK WE HAVE A CHIEF HERE OR SOMEONE WHO MIGHT BE WILLING FROM DPD SIDE TO KIND OF SPEAK TO WHAT THAT RESPONSE IS AND WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS. BUT THE CONCERN IS NOT A CODE CONCERN. AND SO, WHEN IT'S DISPATCHED TO CODE, IT COMES OVER TO CODE. [00:45:05] WE'RE OPERATING WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE EXISTING CODE THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS THE CHALLENGES WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, ADDRESSING THOSE NOISE ISSUES AND IDENTIFYING THOSE PERSONS TO ISSUE THOSE CRIMINAL CITATIONS. AND SO HAPPY TO FURTHER THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT A POTENTIAL ORDINANCE AMENDMENT OR EVEN A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH DPD OR SOME TYPE OF NIGHTTIME TASK FORCE FOR ALL DISTRICTS THAT HAS AN OFFICER OR TWO THAT IS ABLE TO ADDRESS NOISE CONCERNS OR DISRUPTIVE PARTIES ALONGSIDE CODE COMPLIANCE, THEN WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING EFFECTIVE IN ENFORCEMENT, BUT JUST HAVING CODE TO TRY TO GO AT IT ALONE IS NOT EFFECTIVE. AND IT'S NOT EFFICIENT, AND IT'S NOT SAFE FOR OUR OFFICERS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY. I APPRECIATE HEARING THAT. I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE MEAT IN THE TEETH, IF YOU WILL, THAT IS MISSING FROM WHAT YOU ALL ARE RECOMMENDING. I THINK WE CAN CHANGE POLICY ALL DAY LONG. BUT IS THE ENFORCEMENT GOING TO ACTUALLY BRING IN GREATER RESULTS FOR THE RESIDENTS? THE REALITY IS, AND I THINK I COULD EASILY SPEAK FOR MY COLLEAGUES AS WELL, IF THE POINTING THE FINGER AND IT'S NOT ON OUR WATCH, IT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S RESPONSIBILITY JUST RESULTS IN US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS RECEIVING CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO WHEN WE'RE RESPONDING WITH, YOU KNOW, WHO WE BELIEVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE RELIEF. SO I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. I'D LOVE FOR US TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT AT THE PROCEDURES AMENDED SO THAT THERE IS THE NECESSARY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE WITH OTHER TEAMS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED, LIKE RITE CARE, FOR INSTANCE. AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE DESIGNATED TEAMS TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE THIS INSTEAD OF FOCUSING SOLELY ON THE SEMANTICS OR THE LANGUAGE TO PROVIDE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. SO, MR. CHAIR, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD SEE WHAT THOSE OPTIONS WOULD LOOK LIKE, IF WE'RE BEING ASKED TO GIVE POLICY DIRECTION, I WOULD PERSONALLY PREFER TO SEE THAT IT BE INCLUSIVE OF A STRUCTURAL CHANGE THAT WOULD RESULT IN ACTUAL TANGIBLE CHANGES FOR THIS ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU FOR THAT INPUT. MR. BAZALDUA. WE'LL NOW GO TO FOLLOW UP, MISS WILLIS. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE STRS RENTING HOMES. AND YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT JUST A PROPERTY OWNER COULD HAVE AN EVENT AT A HOME, AND THAT WOULD BE A DISTINCTION. SO, IF YOU RENT AN STR AND YOU'RE STAYING THERE, YOU CAN'T THROW A BIG PARTY. I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, I HAD ONE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHERE THE HOME WAS RENTED. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYONE ACTUALLY OCCUPIED IT TO SLEEP THERE, BUT THEY HAD A WEDDING RECEPTION THERE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. YES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE FLESHED OUT IN THE EVENT. USE LAND USE RECOMMENDATION, THE DEFINITION, HOW WE DEFINED IT. I CAN'T RECOLLECT EXACTLY HOW THE CURRENT DEFINITION THAT WAS DRAFTED READS, BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT MUST BE THE OWNER RESIDING AT THE PROPERTY THAT'S HAVING THE PRIVATE GATHERING OR BARBECUE OR GRADUATION PARTY FOR IT TO BE OKAY AND NOT MEET THE ENFORCEMENT THRESHOLD, BUT IF IT WAS SOMEONE WHO RENTED THE PROPERTY, THEN IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE AN EVENT UNDER THE DEFINITION. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD TAKE DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY ON. AND THE FULL COUNCIL BODY ON WHAT THAT LAND USE MATERIALIZES TO. WELL, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO BOX THIS IN MORE BECAUSE IT'S NOT DEFINED WELL AND IT'S BEING ABUSED. AND SO IF IT'S THAT YOU ARE RENTING THIS, THIS IS A FORM OF LODGING AND YOU ARE COMING TO DALLAS TO STAY HERE, NOT THROW A BIG PARTY. HOWEVER, WE CAN ADD THOSE PARAMETERS SO THAT WE HOPEFULLY CAN SOLVE THIS. MAYBE SOME PEOPLE WILL PAY ATTENTION TO IT AND NOT DO THAT. FINALLY, ONE OTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, AND I'VE BROUGHT THIS UP TO THE CITY MANAGER BEFORE, IS THAT WE TALK ABOUT AFTER HOURS, AND WE'RE THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA, AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE A 24 OVER SEVEN OPERATION. SO, A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE, AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE WORKED TO STAFF GREATER HOURS OVERNIGHT, ET CETERA., BUT I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO LOOK GOING INTO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, AS OUR CITY IS A 24 HOUR CITY AND IT'S NOT JUST AFFECTING CODE COMPLIANCE. I LOOK AT IT IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHEN I'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION GOING ON A SUNDAY, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S NO ONE TO GO AND IMMEDIATELY RESPOND. SO, I JUST I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT US AS THE SIZE THAT WE ARE AND ALL OF THE GOOD THAT THAT BRINGS AND THE BAD THAT IT CAN BRING AS [00:50:03] WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS. MR. NARVAEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS TO THE COMMITTEE? YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. VERY QUICKLY. MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES ASKED MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I CAME IN HOPING WOULD BE ANSWERED. SO, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THEIR QUESTIONS. I WANT TO ADD IN MY SUPPORT FOR, WHAT I BELIEVE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA MENTIONED ABOUT HAVING SOME TYPE OF A TEAM. LIKE WITH RITE CARE. ABSOLUTELY. IT WORKS. I THE WAY WE'VE BEEN APPROACHING SOME OF THESE EXTRAORDINARY EVENTS IS YOU KNOW, YES, IT'S DPD WHO HAS TO GO OUT THERE, BUT SOMETIMES WE CAN GET SOMEBODY FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT. AND LET ME TELL YOU, FIRE CAN SHUT DOWN ALMOST ANYTHING WITHIN SECONDS IF IT'S UNSAFE. RIGHT. SO HOW DO YOU PUT TOGETHER THAT CORRECT TEAM AND THEN ALSO THAT SAFETY ASPECT, IF IT'S JUST CODE. I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE DRONES BECAUSE IT CAN GO OUT THERE. IT CAN MEASURE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT DPD ALSO HAS DRONES ALREADY. SO IF YOU KNOW, IF THOSE CAN BE UTILIZED WHEN BEFORE WE GO TO SHUT SOMETHING DOWN OR TO GO INSPECT IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR OFFICERS SAFE AS WELL. SO, I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH ALL OF THIS. AND MY OTHER QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY WITH, WITH THE ILLEGAL FIREWORKS DISPLAYS THAT HAPPENED IN OUR PARKS AND OUR SCHOOLS AND SOME OTHER EVENTS LIKE NEW YEAR'S, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WE GOT TO JUST MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT SO THAT WE DON'T YOU KNOW, RUIN SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY INNOCENT. BUT YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAID, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CERTAIN DAYS IN A ROW AND ALL OF THAT. SO EXCELLENT WORK SO FAR, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT COME TO FRUITION WITH AN ACTUAL POLICY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, MR. NARVAEZ. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE IDEA OF THE PERMITS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. WHAT REAL ENFORCEMENT ABILITY DOES THAT GIVE US OVER WHAT WE HAVE NOW? DOES THAT JUST GIVE PEOPLE A BLANK CHECK TO HAVE OVER 100 PEOPLE AT THEIR HOUSE? HOW DOES THAT HELP US ENFORCE THESE NUISANCES? NO, IT DOES NOT. GIVE THEM A BLANK CHECK. AND I'D LIKE FOR JACKIE TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE WORST STATEMENTS WE CURRENTLY HAVE. IT'S IT PROVIDES YOU BASICALLY A FORMAT FOR IF YOU TRIGGER WITH A TENT, IF YOU TRIGGER WITH NOISE, IF YOU TRIGGER WITH CERTAIN THINGS, IT'S NOT JUST THE 100 PERSON. SO, JACKIE, CAN YOU GO THROUGH THAT CHECKLIST, PLEASE? SURE. THANK YOU. YEAH. CHAPTER 42A DOES CURRENTLY DEFINE A SPECIAL EVENT WITH 100 PEOPLE OR MORE. AND ONE OF THE FOLLOWING. AND SO THOSE YOU CAN SEE THERE ON PAGE SIX. AND I WON'T GO INTO INDIVIDUAL DETAIL, BUT WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS EACH OF THOSE TRIGGERS REQUIRE A CITY DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW WHAT THAT APPLICANT IS PLANNING TO DO WITH THEIR SPECIAL EVENT, AND THAT CITY DEPARTMENT GIVES THAT FEEDBACK, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM FENCING, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE TENTS, ET CETERA. AND SO, I REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED SOME OF THAT STRUCTURE IN 42A TO GIVE US THOSE TEETH. BECAUSE WHEN CODE DOES CURRENTLY GO TO ENFORCE ON A SPECIAL EVENT THAT MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT GOT OUT OF CONTROL, MAYBE WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS ON OUR RADAR. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY, OH, YOU HAVE FOUR TENTS, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A PERMIT. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE A PERMIT. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HARD SOMETIMES, I THINK, IF IT WAS JUST BASED ON THE ATTENDANCE. SO CURRENTLY THAT EXPECTED TOTAL ATTENDANCE IS OVER SEVERAL DAYS. SO IF YOU'RE HAVING 100 PEOPLE OVER IN ANY NUMBER OF DAYS THAT YOU HAVE THE EVENT, AND CURRENTLY WE'RE ABLE TO ISSUE A PERMIT FOR UP TO TEN DAYS AT A TIME AND NO MORE THAN 60 DAYS IN A CALENDAR YEAR. SO, BUT YES HAVING THESE REQUIREMENTS IN THERE, THOSE WHAT WE CALL THEM TRIGGERS FOR AN EVENT PERMIT IS HELPFUL TO ENFORCE IT AND TO ALSO REVIEW IT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE NECESSARY STAFFING THAT IT WILL REQUIRE. SO, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT PERMIT REQUIREMENT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. CORRECT. IT IS FOR OUTDOOR EVENTS. AND SO SOME AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PERMITTING THESE EVENTS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, WE ARE ONLY PERMITTING THE OUTDOOR PORTION OF IT. SO, FOR THE HOME TOURS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT PERMITTING WHAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE THOSE RESIDENCES, WHICH IS WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS OTHER EVENT VENUE, LAND USE THAT WOULD COVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING INSIDE THE RESIDENCE. [00:55:07] SO WITH THIS COVER, THIS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SWISS AVENUE HOME TOUR, WHICH DOESN'T CLOSE DOWN STREETS BUT OBVIOUSLY HAS MORE THAN 100 ATTENDEES. YES, CURRENTLY THEY DO GET A PERMIT FROM US, RIGHT? SO THEY HAVE SOME ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE. THEY DO HAVE POLICE OFFICERS THERE FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. THEY HAVE SOME TENTS THERE THAT THEY SERVE FOOD THEY SELL. THEY SELL FOOD AND MERCHANDISE, I THINK. SO WHAT'S THE TRIGGER THAT REQUIRES THEM TO HAVE A PERMIT? THE 100 PEOPLE AND THOSE THINGS. OKAY ON PAGE EIGHT CHRIS, YOU WERE TALKING. YOU OR JEREMY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES OF CRIMINAL NOISE ENFORCEMENT. BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE DIRECTED AT AN INDIVIDUAL. WHAT ABOUT CREATING A CIVIL CITATION PROCESS THAT COULD BE AGAINST THE HOMEOWNER FOR ALLOWING THE EXCESS NOISE? WOULDN'T THAT CREATE A SIMPLER PROCESS FOR YOU? YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. YES, SIR. IT WOULD. AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ABOUT, POTENTIALLY A CHAPTER. 30 AMENDMENT. THAT JUST ADDS A PRESUMPTION FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. OKAY, I THINK YOU REALLY NEED CREATING A CIVIL PATH, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY THE CRIMINAL PATH. AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO FLESH THAT OUT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SEE, LEGALLY IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO AND THEN EXPLORE THAT OPTION, BUT HAPPY TO BRING THAT BACK AS A PART OF THE FUTURE DISCUSSION? GOOD. WOULD THAT HAVE TO START WITH AN NOV AND THEN GO BACK FOR REINSPECTION TWO WEEKS LATER? OR COULD THAT BE A ONETIME CITATION? AGAIN, MORE LEGAL QUESTIONS. WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND OUT. WOULD HATE TO GIVE YOU THE WRONG ANSWER HERE TODAY. AND ON SLIDE NINE LIKE CLAIRE, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE END UP BECOMING GRINCHES, STAMPING OUT ANYONE'S HOLIDAY DISPLAYS IN AN EXCESS OF ZEAL HERE. AND SO, RATHER THAN JUST BEING GEARED TO LIGHT GLARE FROM CHRISTMAS DISPLAYS WHICH WE EXPERIENCE ALL OVER MY DISTRICT. COULD IT BE GEARED TO AND APPEARS LIKE IT MAY BE, AS THE THRESHOLD IS DEFINED AS LIGHT CREATING A NUISANCE BY CROSSING A PROPERTY LINE? HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE NUISANCE THERE? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. OUR GOAL IN THIS POLICY IS NOT TO DISCOURAGE CELEBRATIONS OF ANY KIND. WE JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WHEN IT RISES THROUGH TO A THRESHOLD OF DISRUPTION TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE, OF SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, THAT WE HAVE THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO ENFORCE. AS WITH A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CODE, IT OFFICER DISCRETION WOULD BE A BIG PIECE OF IT. BUT WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE A CLEAR DEFINITION IN THE CODE OF WHAT CONSTITUTES THAT NUISANCE, SO THAT WE CAN DO THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND LET THEM KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT THRESHOLD IS. AND IF YOU CROSS IT, YOU COULD BE SUBJECT TO JAKE TO ENFORCEMENT. YEAH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME OBJECTIVE CRITERIA IN THAT DEFINITION. OTHERWISE, THE ORDINANCE COULD BE STRICKEN DOWN FOR VAGUENESS. YEAH. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME LANGUAGE IN OUR SITE DEVELOPMENT CODE CURRENTLY IN CHAPTER 51 THAT HAS AN EXCESSIVE ILLUMINATION DEFINITION IN IT. IT'S FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL ENFORCEMENT, BUT THERE'S SOME GOOD LANGUAGE THERE THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY PULL FROM. AS WELL AS JEREMY AND I, WE'VE DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE OBJECTIVE DEFINITIONS THAT WE'D BE HAPPY TO BRING BACK FOR THE JUNE CONVERSATION AS WELL. WELL, ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IN THIS CONTEXT IS A LIGHT DISPLAY THAT ATTRACTS MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CAUSES SO MUCH OF THE DISRUPTION, IS THE ATTRACTIVE EFFECT OF A LIGHT DISPLAY AND THE BAD EFFECTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, NOTED. SO IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, I'M STRONGLY IN SUPPORTIVE OF YOU CONTINUING WORK ON THIS SUBJECT AND BRINGING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE IN JUNE. ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ABOUT SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, AND ALSO TO BRIEF US WITH THE BENEFIT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENTS, INPUT ON THE IDEA OF AN EVENT VENUE, LAND USE. I THINK WE NEED TO GET THEIR INPUT ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY. THANK YOU. SO, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM B, PERIODIC WEEKEND STREET CLOSURES. ROSA, I THINK YOU CAN STAY PUT. YES. GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU AGAIN. [01:00:04] I'M ROSA FLEMING DIRECTOR FOR CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES. SO WE LAST BRIEFED THIS COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 12TH LAST YEAR. STAFF HAVE SINCE DONE SOME ADDITIONAL HOMEWORK WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS LIKE DOWNTOWN DALLAS INC. OR DDI TO LOOK AT OTHER CITIES WHO DO USE CURRENTLY THE PERIODIC STREET CLOSURE OR OPEN STREETS CONCEPT. OUR GOAL TODAY IS TO UPDATE YOU ON THAT HOMEWORK AND TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A PILOTING THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO AS WE WORK TOWARDS BEING ABLE TO USE THE OPEN STREET CONCEPT DURING FIFA. SO, WE'D LIKE TO PRACTICE THAT MODEL, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM PRIOR TO FIFA, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT AS FIFA APPROACHES. SO, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JACKIE TO RUN THROUGH THE SLIDES, AND THEN I'LL SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU ROSA. NEXT SLIDE. THE CONCEPT OF OPEN STREETS IS PRETTY SIMPLE. WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WEAKENED TRAFFIC NUMBERS. THE CITY WOULD TAKE SPACE USUALLY USED BY CARS AND TRUCKS AND WE'RE GIVING IT OVER TO PEDESTRIANS, CREATING A PLAZA LIKE ATMOSPHERE. THE IDEA IS THAT WITH LESS NOISE AND POLLUTION FROM VEHICLES AND MORE SPACE TO STROLL, SHOPPERS AND DINERS WILL HAVE A NICER EXPERIENCE REPLICATING PEDESTRIAN ZONES IN CITIES LIKE NEW YORK CITY AND PHILADELPHIA. THE GOAL WOULD BE TO PERFECT A PROGRAM THAT THE CITY COULD IMPLEMENT DURING FIFA FOR OUR INFLUX OF INTERNATIONAL VISITORS. NEXT SLIDE. CES-OSE WILL CREATE A LANDING PAGE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR PILOT PROGRAM AND UPCOMING OPEN STREET EVENTS. WE WILL COLLABORATE WITH OUR COMMS TEAM TO EFFECTIVELY PROMOTE, EDUCATE AND ENGAGE OUR EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS THROUGH OUR MARKETING PLAN. PLEASE NOTE THAT ON THE LEGEND IN THE FIGURE IS INCORRECT. THE DARKER BLUE REPRESENTS OUR PRE-EVENT PHASE, WHILE THE LIGHTER BLUE INDICATES OUR POST-EVENT PHASE. NEXT SLIDE. HOW WE WILL MEASURE OUR PROGRAM'S SUCCESS. WE HAVE BROUGHT TOGETHER OUR KEY INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS TO DISCUSS OUR DESIRED OUTCOMES, SOME OF WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PRESENTATION. TODAY. AT THE EVENTS, WE WILL GATHER FEEDBACK THROUGH OUTREACH EFFORTS. AFTER THE EVENTS, WE WILL COLLECT SURVEYS TO ASSESS OUR PARTICIPANTS EXPERIENCES. THE INTERNAL TEAM WILL MEET TO IDENTIFY ANY MISSED OPPORTUNITIES AND REVIEW OUR KEY FEEDBACK TO IMPLEMENT IN THE NEXT PILOT EVENT. NEXT SLIDE. IN NOVEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY PROPOSED STREAMLINING THE PERMIT PROCESS FOR OUR PILOT PROGRAM. IN SOME CASES, THIS WOULD BE THE APPLICANT, WHILE IN OTHER CASES WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, SUCH AS DDI, TO BE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY TO COMPLETE THE APPLICATION. BUT TO SIMPLIFY IT, WE WOULD ONLY NEED A TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN. AS YOU KIND OF SEE THERE IN THE FIGURE SAYS CES-OSE AND OUR DPD PARTNERS AND OUR TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS WILL THEN CONDUCT A FORMAL PUBLIC SAFETY REVIEW OF THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN. ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY WILL ASSIST THE APPLICANT IN MEETING THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS, WHICH USUALLY WE FIND TO BE ONE OF THEIR CHALLENGES. NEXT SLIDE. SINCE OUR LAST PRESENTATION, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME UNFORTUNATE INCIDENCES, INCLUDING VEHICLES, INCLUDING IN NEW ORLEANS OVER NEW YEARS. IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR THE CITY TO SAFEGUARD PEDESTRIANS FROM ANY UNEXPECTED SAFETY ISSUES. THEREFORE, WE WILL REQUIRE THE USE OF HARD BARRICADES FOR THE OPEN STREETS. STREET CLOSURES. HARD BARRICADES CAN INCLUDE WATER FILLED JERSEY BARRICADES, POLICE VEHICLES OR, EVEN MORE CREATIVELY, PLANTERS WITH TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. NEXT SLIDE. CES-OSE HAS IDENTIFIED AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY BASED ON THE NUMBERS, THE NUMEROUS IN-KIND REQUESTS WE RECEIVE FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WE ARE PROPOSING TO ACQUIRE A TRAILER OR VEHICLE TO HOLD THE ESSENTIAL ITEMS NEEDED FOR ACTIVATING AN OPEN STREET, AS BUDGETS FOR OVERTIME BECOME TIGHTER. IT IS INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT FOR DEPARTMENTS TO FULFILL THESE IN-KIND REQUESTS, WHICH OFTEN INCLUDE NO PARKING SIGNS, THE BARRICADES NEEDED FOR THE STREET CLOSURE, AND SPECIFICALLY THE SAFETY BARRICADES WE WILL NEED. IMPLEMENTING THIS SOLUTION WOULD SIMPLIFY OUR PERMIT REQUIREMENTS AND MAKE IT EASIER TO ACTIVATE AN OPEN STREET. THIS CONCEPT IS SIMILAR TO A BLOCK PARTY TRAILER USED IN MANY CITIES AND TOWNS THAT NEIGHBOR US. CITY STAFF WOULD TRANSPORT THE TRAILER TO THE EVENT LOCATION IN ADVANCE AND SECURE IT. EVENT ORGANIZERS COULD THEN EFFICIENTLY SET UP THEIR EVENTS TO MEET THE NECESSARY STANDARDS OF THE PERMIT, AND AFTER THE EVENT, THEY WOULD PACK EVERYTHING UP JUST LIKE THEY FOUND IT. AND CITY STAFF WOULD RETURN IT THE NEXT WORKING BUSINESS DAY. [01:05:02] NEXT. OUR NEXT STEPS. SO WE'D LIKE YOUR GUIDANCE. AFTER THIS PRESENTATION, WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE LEAD ON THE CITY'S OPEN STREETS PILOT PROGRAM. WE HAVE TALKED TO DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC. AND OUR OTHER PARTNERS. WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, A RELATIONSHIP WITH. VISIT DALLAS. THEY HAVE A VAN SIMILAR TO THAT WHERE THEY GO AND SET UP FOR THEIR EVENTS. SO, THERE'S MODELS FOR THESE THINGS ALREADY. THERE'S ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY, AS WE SEE IT, AS YOU'VE SEEN IN HERE, FOR US TO SAVE THE GENERAL FUND, SOME DOLLARS, AS WE DO THE IN-KIND FOR A LOT OF THESE EVENTS. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE FROM 30,000 AND ABOVE IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURE OF TIME BY NONPUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, PUBLIC WORKS LENDING OUT THEIR BARRICADES, HAVING TO SET THEM UP. SO THE MODELS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO PILOT WILL PROBABLY COST OUR DEPARTMENT ABOUT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 10 TO 15,000 TO PURCHASE THE JERSEY BARRICADES, ET CETERA. WE WOULD THEN BE SAVING OVER TIME, PROBABLY PER EVENT ABOUT 30 K IN WHAT WOULD BE EXPENDED IN TERMS OF IN-KIND BY VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS. AND SO WE'D LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND PILOT THIS. PRIOR TO FIFA PILOTED WITH SOME EVENTS THAT DDI HAS PLANNED AND SOME THAT WE ALREADY DO. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE DO OUR PROGRAMING FOR THE HOLIDAYS CITY HALL, PLAZA HOLIDAY AND OTHERS OF THAT NATURE, WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PILOT THIS. SO THAT WILL BE WE'LL ALREADY HAVE A STRUCTURE AND A PROCESS IN PLACE BEFORE FIFA COMES, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS AROUND THE CITY IN VARIOUS PLACES. WITH THAT, WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, ROSA. THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE CHAMPIONED FOR SOME TIME NOW, AND I THINK IT HAS TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL BENEFITS TO ACTIVATING OUR URBAN SPACES, TO BRINGING PEOPLE OUT IN THE STREETS AND ENJOYING THEIR ENVIRONMENT, TO PROVIDE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR VENDORS TO SELL THEIR WARES. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE? MISS WILLIS? I JUST HAVE A COMMENT AND THAT IS. I WAS SO EXCITED TO SEE THIS. THANK YOU FOR CHAMPIONING THIS AND PLANNING NOW AHEAD AND BEING ABLE TO TEST THIS AHEAD OF FIFA, I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA. AND THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT IS, WHERE CAN I DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN DISTRICT 13? SO THANK YOU ALL FOR VETTING THIS. ANYONE ELSE? NO. ONLINE. NO. NO. OKAY. WELL, I GUESS THAT MEANS THAT YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. ROSA. PLEASE KEEP WORKING ON THIS AND ALSO HAVE A THOUGHT TO THE FUTURE POST FIFA. I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS CONTINUE AFTER THAT. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. BUT THANK YOU AND WE WILL KEEP WORKING. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM IS C DEVELOPING A QUALITY-OF-LIFE STRATEGY AROUND AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. MR. CASTILLO, WELCOME. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR RIDLEY AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ARTURO DEL CASTILLO, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. WITH ME THIS MORNING ARE MARCUS WATSON, OUR CHIEF PRESERVATION PLANNER. AND TO MY RIGHT IS EVELYN MONTGOMERY, WHO MANY OF YOU KNOW AS OUR CHAIR, CHAIR OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION. OUR HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION TASK FORCE MEMBER AS WELL. SHE'S ON THE DESIGNATION COMMITTEE. MANY THINGS. SHE WEARS MANY HATS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS MORNING WE'LL SHARE AN UPDATE OF THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION STRATEGY AND OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM, HIGHLIGHTING KEY ACCOMPLISHMENTS FROM THE PAST SIX MONTHS. WE'LL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM, SUMMARIZE PROGRESS SINCE OUR LAST BRIEFING TO THIS COMMITTEE SIX MONTHS AGO OR SO, AND PREVIEW SOME IMPORTANT PROJECTS ON THE HORIZON. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION STRATEGY JUST OVER ONE YEAR AGO AS A COMPREHENSIVE CITYWIDE PLAN TO GUIDE THE IDENTIFICATION, PROTECTION AND CELEBRATION OF DALLAS HISTORIC AND CULTURAL ASSETS. AS I MENTIONED, OUR LAST BRIEFING TO THIS COMMITTEE WAS ROUGHLY SIX MONTHS AGO. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SOME OF OUR MOST SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS INCLUDE REPEALING A 2010 ORDINANCE THAT ULTIMATELY ALLOWED SMALLER HISTORIC HOMES TO BE DEMOLISHED WHERE SADLY, TRADITIONAL BLACK HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS WERE MOST AFFECTED. [01:10:07] A CODE AMENDMENT OF THE DEMO DELAY ORDINANCE TO ALLOW US TO ALLOW USE OF ALL COMPLETED HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEYS TO BETTER DEFINE DEMO DELAY AREAS, WAS DRAFTED, APPROVED BY LANDMARK COMMITTEE COMMISSION AND TAKEN TO THE TO CPC EARLIER THIS MONTH. WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL BE READY TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL ON MAY 14TH. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ADDITIONAL UPDATES RELATED TO EXPANDING TRAINING AND EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVES INCLUDE AN EFFORT TO MAXIMIZE OUR TRAINING BUDGET BY HOSTING AN ANNUAL NATIONAL ALLIANCE OF PRESERVATION COMMISSION TRAINING, SPECIFICALLY FOR LANDMARK COMMISSIONERS, TASK FORCE CHAIRS AND STAFF. THIS YEAR, WE ARE TARGETING AN OCTOBER SESSION THAT WILL ALLOW UP TO 30 PARTICIPANTS TO ATTEND, SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING TRAINING ACCESS COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS, WHERE TYPICALLY ONLY 2 TO 4 STAFF OR COMMISSION MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO ATTEND. EXTERNAL TRAINING CONFERENCES OR EVENTS. IN COLLABORATION WITH PRESERVATION DALLAS STAFF HAVE ALSO BEGUN PLANNING FOR A SERIES OF WORKSHOPS AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS TAILORED FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS. THESE OFFERINGS WILL AIM TO RAISE AWARENESS, FOSTER A SENSE OF STEWARDSHIP AND PROVIDE PRACTICAL GUIDANCE FOR MAINTAINING HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND PROMOTING CULTURAL HERITAGE. OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO EMPOWER A BROADER AUDIENCE TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE IN PRESERVING AND ENHANCING THEIR COMMUNITIES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND FINALLY, IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS, SEVERAL STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN NOMINATED AND BEGUN MOVING THROUGH THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION PROCESS. AMONG THOSE ARE MOUNT PISGAH MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, FOUNDED IN 1864, WHOSE DESIGNATION WAS INITIATED EARLIER THIS MONTH, ALONG WITH COLONIAL THEATER ON MLK BOULEVARD. ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURE, OUR OWN CITY HALL, WAS INITIATED JUST LAST MONTH, AND WE ANTICIPATE IT WILL TAKE ROUGHLY TWO YEARS TO DEVELOP PRESERVATION CRITERIA FOR EACH OF THESE BEFORE THEY ARE READY TO COME BACK TO LANDMARK COMMISSION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALSO, PROGRESS CONTINUES ON THREE ADDITIONAL IMPORTANT PROJECTS. AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND CONSERVATION PROGRAMS IS IN THE DATA COLLECTION PHASE. WE EXPECT THIS WORK TO BE COMPLETED IN SEPTEMBER AND LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THOSE RESULTS WITH COUNCIL THEN. A HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY OF COLONIAL HILLS AND WHEATLEY PLACE HAS COMPLETED FIELD WORK AND HAS MOVED TO THE DATA PROCESSING AND RESEARCH PHASE, WORKING TOWARDS A SEPTEMBER COMPLETION DATE AS WELL. AND WORK ALSO CONTINUES ON QUEEN CITY'S HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION, WHICH COULD BE THE CITY'S FIRST HISTORIC DISTRICT CREATED SINCE 2006. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO NOW LOOKING AHEAD WE'LL DEVELOP AND BRING FORWARD KEY CODE AMENDMENTS RECOMMENDED BY OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE. WE'LL ALSO BE RECONVENING THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION STRATEGIES STEERING COMMITTEE TO HELP US DEVELOP A STRATEGY FOR RECOGNIZING CULTURAL DISTRICTS. IN ADDITION, WE'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO COMPLETING THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS FOR VARIOUS STRUCTURES INITIATED IN 2023, WHICH INCLUDE EL RANCHITO RESTAURANT ON JEFFERSON BOULEVARD, THE WEST JEFFERSON INTERURBAN BRIDGE, AND OLD CITY PARK. WITHIN FUTURE DEPARTMENT BUDGET ASKS, WE'LL PURSUE FUNDING AS A KEY MATCH TO FUTURE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION GRANTS. THAT WOULD HELP US COMPLETE A CITYWIDE HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY AND UPDATE TO OUR PRESERVATION PLAN AND THE ADDITION OF NEW STAFF TO HELP ACCOMPLISH IMPLEMENTATION GOALS OF THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION STRATEGY. AND VERY LASTLY, STAFF WILL BEGIN PRELIMINARY RESEARCH, AND WE'VE BEGUN PRELIMINARY RESEARCH INTO WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ESTABLISH A DECONSTRUCTION PROGRAM AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO DEMOLITION THAT WOULD CREATE POSITIVE ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENTAL OUTCOMES FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS. AND WITH THAT WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? YES, MR. CHAIR SCHULTZ. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO START OFF BY THANKING YOU ALL, BUT PARTICULARLY, MISS MONTGOMERY, YOUR TIRELESS EFFORTS, I THINK MATCH. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYONE, ANY VOLUNTEER FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT WORKS HARDER THAN YOU DO. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FIGHTING SO HARD TO SAVE SO MANY OF OUR SPECIAL PLACES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO DO MORE WORK THAN ME. I JUST AM MEMORABLE. I GUESS YOU'D BE SURPRISED. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. ONE IS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE PLAN, ONE OF THE OTHER KEY AREAS AND THIS MAY BE PART OF YOUR FUTURE THING, BUT I'D LIKE SOME DETAIL IS TO WORK A DISTRICT BY DISTRICT ON CREATING SOME PRESERVATION OPPORTUNITIES AND HELPING SOME OF THE NEWER DISTRICT'S YOUNGER DISTRICTS, I SHOULD ADD, REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT MATTERS IN THEIR COMMUNITY. [01:15:01] THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. YES, WE I BELIEVE FROM MY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD LIKE FOR OUR FUTURE THIS PRESERVATION PLAN THAT IS SPECIFICALLY PRESERVATION. THE STRATEGY WAS AN OVERARCHING UMBRELLA FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THE NEW HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN WOULD SPECIFICALLY SPEAK TO SPECIFIC HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN SPECIFIC DISTRICTS OF THE CITY. AND I MY IDEA BEHIND THE PLAN WOULD BE A 10-TO-15-YEAR STRATEGY FOR SPECIFICALLY HOW TO DEAL WITH MORE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, HOW TO HOW TO GET MORE AREAS OF TOWN SURVEYED AND INCLUDED. SO IT'S STEP TWO. KIND OF. WELL, I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE OTHER THING. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT HISTORIC HAS A HAS A TECHNICAL DEFINITION, BUT IT ALSO HAS AN EMOTIONAL DEFINITION. AND SO WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, IS THERE GOING TO BE THE OPPORTUNITY AS YOU BUILD YOUR TEAM HERE? AND ALSO WITH ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS TO WORK WITH, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO IT, EACH DISTRICT. AND THERE MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT'S HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT IN THE TECHNICAL DEFINITION, BUT FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS IS A BELOVED X OR Y. EXACTLY. THAT'S WHY. BECAUSE IT'S ALSO CULTURAL. I'M SORRY. IT'S ALSO THAT CULTURAL PIECE. SORRY. KEEP GOING. ABSOLUTELY. AND WE RECOGNIZE, YES, WE HAVE WE HAVE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY BRICKS AND MORTAR HISTORIC. AND WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THOSE. AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO START A STEERING COMMITTEE TO RECONVENE OUR STEERING COMMITTEE TO START LOOKING AT WHAT IS A CULTURAL DISTRICT. HOW DO WE DEFINE IT? WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITION, AND WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS. WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS? WHAT DO THE NEIGHBORHOODS WANT FROM US AND HOW CAN WE DO THAT? I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER PIECE TO IT. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT AREAS ACROSS THE CITY THAT ARE BEING, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE RIFE WITH TEARDOWNS, RIGHT? THAT'S IMPACTING EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT HOMES, IT'S DESTROYING THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND REALLY IMPACTING OUR HOUSING CHALLENGE OVERALL. RIGHT. AND SO, I'M WONDERING WHAT COULD BE THE ROLE OF THIS, WHETHER IT'S THE STEERING COMMITTEE OR DOWN THE ROAD STAFF TO HELP NEIGHBORHOODS UNDERSTAND THAT IN ARE THEIR TOOLS. MAYBE WE NEED TO CREATE TOOLS TO HELP PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE A CERTAIN CHARACTER, THAT THEN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER IS DESTROYED BY THESE. YOU KNOW, I CALL THEM WHITE BOXES, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE BEING BUILT ALL OVER TOWN. CERTAINLY. AND I BELIEVE WE, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, ARE TAKING A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES. WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS FOR EXACTLY THAT KIND OF THING, BECAUSE I THINK THROUGH PLANNING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAY AND ALL THOSE TOOLS THAT ARE THERE, THEY'RE VERY, VERY TECHNICAL AND THEY TEND TO DIVIDE NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO FEW BEING IMPLEMENTED. SO IS THAT ALL PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR IN OUR IN THE TOOLBOX? ARTURO. YES IT IS. AND WE ARE LOOKING AT, AT UPDATING OUR NSO ORDINANCE TO, TO ALLOW IT TO BE MORE USER FRIENDLY AND ALSO MORE EFFECTIVE. IN COMBINATION WITH OUR CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAMS. THOSE ARE THE THREE TOOLS. AND WE WOULD SAY IN THE TOOLBOX THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO EITHER REVAMP OR OR DEPLOY MORE. SO YEAH, I THINK WE'LL ALSO AND THEN FINALLY, I THINK THAT IF YOU ARE ABLE TO WORK WITH EACH DISTRICT TO CRAFT A DISTRICT BY DISTRICT STRATEGY, IT WILL ALSO MITIGATE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT'S USED IN CONTROVERSIAL ZONING CASES. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, WELL, IF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALREADY DEFINED WHAT THAT CHARACTER IS THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED, THEN IT'S VERY EASY TO SAY YES OR NO TO CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS. WHEREAS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S SO AMBIGUOUS, IT MAKES THE ZONING CASES EVEN POTENTIALLY MORE COMBUSTIBLE. SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER GREAT TOOL. SIMILAR TO WHEN THE TEAM WENT FOR FORWARD DALLAS AND REALLY WORKSHOPPED AT EACH DISTRICT. AND I THINK NOW ALMOST EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS' GATHERINGS WHERE WE COULD DO OPEN HOUSES AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT MAKES YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIAL? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO PRESERVE? ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE HISTORIC THAT NOBODY EVEN KNOWS ABOUT, THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE AT LEAST ON A MAP, [01:20:05] EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT PROTECTED? SO THOSE WOULD BE MY SUGGESTIONS MOVING FORWARD. AND I THINK THEY'RE INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE HIGHLIGHTED. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTED LAST YEAR WAS NOT AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. IT WAS AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION STRATEGY, WHICH REALLY DIDN'T DEAL WITH HISTORIC DISTRICTS PER SE. WE ARE GREATLY IN NEED OF A NEW OR UPDATED HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE IS AT LEAST 15 YEARS OLD, AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REFERS TO IT ANYMORE. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM PANEL MEMBERS PARTICULARLY FROM YOU, ELIZABETH, AS THE CHAIR OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, WHAT ROLE YOU THINK AN UPDATED OR NEW PRESERVATION PLAN WOULD HAVE IN THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION OF CAS AND POLICY? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. IT IS AN EXCELLENT ONE. WE ROUTINELY RUN INTO ISSUES THAT COME BEFORE THE LANDMARK COMMISSION THAT ASK US TO ADDRESS RECENT CHANGES IN THE REAL WORLD AND CONSTRUCTION AND THE DEMANDS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS OR OWN HISTORIC BUILDINGS. AN UPDATED PLAN WOULD HELP US ADDRESS THOSE. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COME UP INCLUDE SOLAR PANELS, FOR WHICH OUR VIEWS AND OUR ESTABLISHED PRECEDENTS ARE QUITE OLD, AND ARTIFICIAL TURF AND NEW MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED ON BUILDINGS. AND IN ADDITION, AS WE GO WITH OUR WORK TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, OFFER HELP IN THE PRESERVATION OF EVER NEWER HISTORIC LOCATIONS, EVERY YEAR, MORE BUILDINGS BECOME HISTORIC ENOUGH TO BE DESIGNATED AND TO GET THEIR OWNERS OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAX CREDITS IF WE KNEW ABOUT THEM. BUT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT OLDER IDEAS AND THE EXISTING STOCK OF 15 OR 20 YEARS AGO. AND IT'S QUITE EMBARRASSING, ACTUALLY, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ONE THAT'S WITHIN TEN YEARS OLD, BECAUSE PRESERVATION PLANS USUALLY SHOULD NOT BE OLDER THAN THAT. MOST CITIES WOULD VIEW THAT AS A NECESSITY TO OPERATE AN EFFICIENT HISTORIC PRESERVATION SYSTEM. IS THERE A CONCERN THAT WITHOUT HAVING A CURRENT PRESERVATION PLAN, THAT THAT LEADS TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION MAKING AD HOC DECISIONS THAT CAN BE INCONSISTENT FROM MEETING TO MEETING, FROM PANEL TO PANEL, SUCH THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE CONSISTENCY THAT WE WOULD HAVE WITH A PRESERVATION PLAN IN PLACE THAT COULD BE REFERRED TO FOR GUIDANCE. WELL, WE DO OUR BEST TO CARRY OUT CONSISTENCY JUST ON OUR DEFENSE. I WILL SAY THAT, BUT MUCH OF THAT RELIES ON LANDMARK COMMISSIONERS' MEMORIES, STAFF MEMORIES AND ASKING THE STAFF TO LOOK UP WHAT WE SAID LAST TIME. SO YES, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE HAD MORE CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THESE NEWER ISSUES COME UP. GREAT. AND WOULD PART OF THIS PLAN AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR YOU, MARCUS. INCLUDE SUGGESTED UPDATES TO SOME OF OUR OLDER PRESERVATION ORDINANCES, PERHAPS. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONSTERNATION WHENEVER YOU TALK TO NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT REVISING THEIR ORDINANCES, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF AMBIGUITIES IN SOME OF THEM. THEY MIGHT NEED TO BE UPDATED TO ACKNOWLEDGE NEW DEVELOPMENTS, SUCH AS SOLAR PANELS, ET CETERA. WOULD YOU BE LOOKING AT THAT? ABSOLUTELY. IN FACT, WE'VE KIND OF STARTED THAT. WE'VE THE LANDMARK COMMISSION HAS HAD AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OVER THE PAST YEAR THAT LOOKED AT SOME THINGS WE COULD ALREADY START DOING TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE USER FRIENDLY AND TO UPDATE TECHNOLOGICALLY SOME OF OUR POLICIES. BUT ALSO, I THINK THE PLAN THAT WILL BE A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE PLAN IS ANY UPDATES THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT TO OUR OLDER ORDINANCES. WE NEED PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS FOR ANY NEW DISTRICTS OR WHAT THOSE WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND ALSO, I THINK WITH CHANGES IN LEGISLATION, WE HAVE TO START LOOKING AT OTHER INCENTIVES, MORE INCENTIVES FOR WHY SOMEBODY SHOULD DESIGNATE A PROPERTY. I THINK THOSE WOULD BE THE GOALS. GREAT. WELL, THERE IS CONCERN, AND I'LL LEAVE THIS WITH YOU TO CONSIDER AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AMONGST AND I LIVE IN AN HISTORIC DISTRICT, HAVE FOR OVER 30 YEARS. AND SO MY EAR IS TO THE GROUND ON THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF THEM IN MY DISTRICT THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT ONE SIZE FITS ALL. [01:25:07] THEY DON'T WANT A STANDARD TEMPLATE FOR EVERY HISTORIC DISTRICT, BECAUSE EACH DISTRICT IS UNIQUE AND THEY HAVE UNIQUE ARCHITECTURE, UNIQUE REQUIREMENTS. AND SO I'M ALL FOR UPDATING IF THAT IS SUPPORTED BY THE RESIDENTS IN THE DISTRICTS. BUT WE SHOULDN'T TRY TO HOMOGENIZE THIS PROCESS JUST FOR THE EASE OF ADMINISTRATIVE EASE. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT PAST LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN BEHIND. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. I'M JUST MAKING THAT OF THE RECORD HERE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND PLEASE, FULL SPEED AHEAD ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE MOVE TO OUR MEMOS D OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE AGENDA ITEM 25 1183 A COMING UP THIS WEEK. ARTS ACTIVATE PROGRAM GUIDELINES. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. LET'S MOVE ON TO E CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS PROGRAM REALLOCATION OF FUNDS. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? THIS PERTAINS TO THE REALLOCATION OF THE DALLAS BLACK DANCE THEATER. ALLOCATION OF $248,000. EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH THE REALLOCATION. MISS WILLIS. SO, IT LOOKED LIKE ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS GOING. I SAW A MENTION OF LIBRARIES AND REC CENTERS AND PROGRAMING THERE. CAN YOU TELL ME JUST REAL QUICK HOW THAT WILL WORK? SURE CAN. [INAUDIBLE] IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE. MARTINE SAID THAT SHE CAN'T BE HERE TODAY. SHE'S JUST NOT FEELING WELL. SO THAT IS SUPPLEMENTING FUNDS FOR WHAT IS CALLED OUR CULTURE OF VALUE PROGRAM. AND SO WE SORT OF RAN WHAT IS NOW THE CURRENT ITERATION OF IT LAST YEAR, WHERE WE PARTNERED WITH OUR REC CENTERS AND LIBRARIES. WE GET TWO ACTIVATIONS IN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT, WHICH IS REALLY WONDERFUL. AND SO THIS WILL ESSENTIALLY ADD ANOTHER 50% TO THAT BUDGET. AND SO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE EVEN MORE PLACES IN EACH DISTRICT ACROSS THE CITY. IT WAS A REALLY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM, AND WE'VE LEARNED SOME GREAT LESSONS AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. WELL, THAT WAS JUST REALLY EXCITING TO READ ABOUT. I LOVE SEEING IT COME DOWN TO THE COUNCIL DISTRICT LEVEL AND AT CITY RESOURCES FACILITIES THAT WE KNOW OUR RESIDENTS ARE USING. SO TAKING ARTS AND CULTURE TO THOSE LOCATIONS REALLY CAUGHT MY EYE. THANK YOU. GREAT. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT MEMO. NEXT IS MEMO F. THIS IS THE SINGING HILLS PUBLIC ART PROJECT. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ITEM G, KALITA HUMPHREYS THEATER LEASE AGREEMENT, AMENDMENT SIX. ANY QUESTIONS ON G. IF NOT, I HAD ONE. IT MENTIONS THE ITEM THREE IS THE SUSPENSION OF BASE RENTAL RATES AT THE PUBLISHED AMOUNT FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 FOR NONPROFITS RENTING SPACES THERE. THE WORD SUSPENSION DREW MY ATTENTION. DOES THAT MEAN THEY DON'T PAY ANY RENT ANYMORE? NO, AND THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION. I WAS TRYING TO AVOID THE WORD FREEZE AS WELL. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WHATEVER THE RATES ARE FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR, WE WILL KEEP THEM AT THAT EXACT LEVEL AS A MEANS OF MAKING SURE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TO EXPECT OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. I THINK FREEZE IS A MORE APPROPRIATE TERM THAN SUSPENSION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO THAT BRINGS US, I THINK FINALLY TO OUR FORECAST. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ITEM H? I DO MISS WILLIS. SO THIS LAST WEEK WE HAD A RATHER COMPELLING SPEAKER, PUBLIC SPEAKER AT A COUNCIL MEETING TALKING ABOUT NITROUS OXIDE TANKS, FLAVORED NITROUS OXIDE TANKS BEING SOLD THROUGH VAPE STORES, AND RAISED SOME CONCERNS. AND I ASKED CODE TO LOOK INTO THAT. AND I GOT A OUT A RESPONSE THAT FELT A LITTLE TEPID, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS. AROUND INVESTIGATING THIS OR DOCUMENTING THIS, AND WHO MAY BE USING THIS? AND I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO EXPLORE AND UNDERSTAND THAT A BIT MORE. I THINK CALIFORNIA HAS SOME RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE GREATER THAN OURS THAT HELP PROTECT CHILDREN AND OTHERS. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER THAT SUBJECT. OKAY. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. IF YOU COULD, MISS WILLIS, FAVOR ME WITH A BRIEF EMAIL DESCRIBING THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU'D LIKE CONSIDERED SO THAT STAFF WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO FOCUS ON. [01:30:02] THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS POINT, IT IS NOW 10:30 A.M. AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.