[BRIEFINGS]
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GREAT.IT IS THURSDAY, APRIL 24TH, 2025, AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
IT IS 9:06 AM CAN WE START OFF WITH A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER CHERNO, DISTRICT TWO.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DISTRICT THREE.
COMMISSIONER FORSETH, DISTRICT FIVE CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT? DISTRICT NINE.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? HERE.
DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBEN? YEAH, I AM HERE.
I AM STEPPING IN FOR, UM, CHAIR SHAAD TODAY.
SO THAT MEANS WE WILL NEED TO A APPOINT A TEMPORARY VICE CHAIR.
AND COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT HAS GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO DO SO.
SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPOINT HIM? SO MOVED.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
UM, COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK FOR YOUR SECOND.
UM, I THINK, OH, THERE'S COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
UM, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER WHEELER JOINED US AT 9:07 AM AND THAT MEANS WE WILL GO TO THE BRIEFING ON THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN, UH, MS. JACKSON AND MR. BLADES? GOOD MORNING.
CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?
MY NAME IS LINDSAY JACKSON AND I WILL BE PRESENTING ON THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN.
LET ME ADJUST MY COMPUTER AUDIO.
SO YES, THIS MORNING WE'RE GOING TO, UM, PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN.
I BELIEVE PATRICK HAS JUST PASSED AROUND A PHYSICAL HARD COPY, SO I WILL, OKAY, THERE WE GO.
I WILL BE HIGHLIGHTING WHAT YOU ALL WILL BE REVIEWING IN THE PLAN TODAY.
SO, UM, WE PREVIOUSLY CAME TO YOU ALL, UM, BACK IN JANUARY, I BELIEVE, AND GAVE A HIGH LEVEL IN DEPTH OVERVIEW OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS IT PERTAINS TO LAND USE.
UM, THIS PLAN WAS GONNA HIGHLIGHT THE, THE PLANNING PROCESS, OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, FOCUS AREAS, IMPLEMENTATION TABLES, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA JUST DO A LITTLE SUMMARY THE NEXT STEPS IN A BRIEF Q AND A.
SO JUST TO ORIENT ALL OF US, THIS IS SOUTH DALLAS, NOT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.
UM, IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO FAIR PARK.
UM, HERE IS A MAP JUST TO KIND OF ORIENT.
UM, YOU HAVE THE FAIR PARK, UM, DART STATION, MLK STATION, AS WELL
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AS THE, UM, HATCHER STATION AND LAWN VIEW ALL WITHIN THIS AREA.AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, UM, THIS TASK FORCE HAS BEEN WITH US A LONG TIME.
THESE ARE THE ORIGINAL TASK FORCE MEMBERS.
THEY, IT IS A MAKEUP OF COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM ALL, UM, OVER SOUTH DALLAS WITH, UM, WE HAVE FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, AND BUILDERS.
SO AS YOU LOOK AT THIS DOCUMENT, UM, THE FIRST CHAPTER IS OUR PLANNING PROCESS.
HERE YOU WILL FIND INFORMATION ABOUT OUR STRATEGIC APPROACH, SOME HISTORICAL CONTEXT, DEMOGRAPHICS, UM, THE EXISTING LAND USE AND A ZONING ANALYSIS.
AND, UM, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE LEGACY BUILDERS AND THE NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON WITHIN SOUTH DALLAS.
OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UM, WE SPOKE ON THIS BEFORE, WE HAVE LAND USE, HISTORY AND CULTURE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE, COMMUNITY WELLBEING AND HOUSING AND DESIGN.
BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO FOCUS ON AS YOU READ THIS PLAN SPECIFICALLY IS THE LAND USE AND ZONING AND HOUSING AND DESIGN STANDARDS ALSO, UM, WE LOOKED AT FIVE DIFFERENT FOCUS AREAS, AND I WILL MENTION THEM AGAIN THAT SECOND AVENUE, LC FAY HIGGINS, THE MALCOLM X BOULEVARD, UM, CORRIDOR, THE MARTIN LUTHER KING DART STATION, THE AREA WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THAT AND THE QUEEN CITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THE TASK FORCE THAT THESE AREAS ARE HIGHLIGHTED AND FOCUSED ON AS THEY MAY NOT ALWAYS GET, UM, A LOT OF LOVE.
AND SO IN THE FUTURE WITH ALL OF OUR PLANNING AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, WE WANT THESE SPECIFIC AREAS TO, UM, RECEIVE SOME LOVE AND SOME, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS AND ATTENTION ULTIMATELY.
SO AS YOU READ THROUGH THE DOCUMENT, FOCUS ON THOSE AREAS.
AND AGAIN, HERE'S A MAP JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING, UM, WHERE THESE FIVE FOCUS AREAS ARE.
AND LASTLY, UM, THIS IMPLEMENTATION TABLE.
WE HIGHLIGHT ALL OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN IMPLEMENTATION TABLE, BUT FOR YOU ALL LAND USE, THE ZONING AND HOUSING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT.
UM, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS WITH THIS LAND USE TABLE, THIS WILL GUIDE THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS FOR PD 5 95.
UM, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT OF THIS AREA PLAN WOULD BE SOME DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR HOUSING NEW LAND USES TO INCORPORATE WITHIN PD 5 95, AS WELL AS ADDRESSING, UM, SOME NEW DEFINITIONS.
AS WE KNOW, PD 5 95 WAS INITIALLY INCORPORATED, UM, I'M SORRY, ADOPTED BACK IN 2001.
SO A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2001, AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
UM, AND SO THIS PLAN GUIDES THAT DIRECTION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WITHIN THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS.
AND, UM, THIS, AS YOU LOOK THROUGH, READ THROUGH THE PLACE TYPES, ALL OF THIS WAS IN ALIGNMENT WITH FORWARD DALLAS 2.0.
UM, WE DID THE ENGAGEMENT CONCURRENTLY WHILE WE WERE WORKING ON FORWARD DALLAS.
AND SO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO READ THIS DOCUMENT, PROVIDE US SOME COMMENTS AND CHANGES.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT INFORMATION BY NEXT FRIDAY, MAY 2ND.
UM, BUT PLEASE, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL TIME.
UM, THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND, UM, ULTIMATELY THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO, UM, OPEN THIS UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IN MAY AND MOVE FORWARD TO, UM, HAVING A RECOMMENDATION AND RECEIVING THOSE COMMENTS FROM YOU ALL.
AND ULTIMATELY COUNSEL ACTION.
AND ONCE OBVIOUSLY IT'S APPROVED BY COUNSEL, THEN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS
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TO CHANGE THE ZONING WITHIN PD 5, 9 5 FOR SOUTH DALLAS.AND, UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE COMMENTS CAN BE DIRECTED TOWARDS, UM, THE CHAIR AND THEY CAN ALSO BE DIRECTED TO PATRICK AND MYSELF.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. JACKSON.
I KNOW IN CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND MR. BLADES AND COMMISSIONER WHEELER, THIS AREA PLAN HAS REALLY BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE.
AND I, I'M EXCITED THAT IT'S FINALLY NOW HERE FOR US TO GET BRIEFED ON AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE UP SOON.
AND WITH THAT COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR ACTUALLY, I SEE COMMISSIONER WHEELER'S HANDS UP.
LET, LET'S GO WITH TO HER FIRST, UM, MS. MS. JACKSON, HOW IS THIS, HOW DID THE STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS NOT, UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT NUMBER AREA PLAN THIS IS FOR SOUTH DALLAS.
UH, WELL, SOUTH DALLAS, EAST DALLAS, UH, PROPER.
WHAT WAS THE INTENTIONALITY BEHIND MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS JUST NOT ANOTHER AREA PLAN THAT SIT ON A, ON A SHELF? SO, UM, THE TASK FORCE WAS VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THIS BEING AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND IT NOT SITTING ON THE SHELF.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR AUTHORIZED HEARING TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE THIS, UM, AREA PLAN HOPEFULLY IS APPROVED, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD DIRECTLY INTO THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS.
UM, THE TASK FORCE WE'VE WORKED SO DILIGENTLY ON, UM, THIS PLAN, WE ACTUALLY WERE OUT IN THE FIELD LAST WEEK, UM, LOOKING AT PITCHES OF ROOFS AND, UM, GARAGE PLACEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, THE TASK FORCE HAS WORKED, UM, VERY DILIGENTLY ON THIS WITH SPECIFICS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLAN DOES NOT SIT ON THE SHELF.
UM, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THROUGH THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS.
AND WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING SOME PRELIMINARY LEGWORK, UM, WITH THE TEAM FAR AS LOOKING AT PARCEL DATA AND MAILING OUTS, MAIL OUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, WE DON'T WANT THIS PLAN TO SOUND ON THE SHELF.
HOW HAS DOING THIS PROCESS OF THESE LAST FIVE YEARS, IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS,
DID YOU GIVE ANY, UM, YOU GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED? YES, YES.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE IMPLEMENTATION THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN REAL TIME FROM THIS AREA PLAN.
UM, ONE OF THOSE, WELL, I'VE GOT SEVERAL EXAMPLES.
POINT SOUTH, UM, COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY ALL HAVE GALVANIZED AND BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH, UM, OUR CITY MANAGER TO REALLY GET SOME THINGS, UM, GOING IN THE AREA WHERE THE, UM, MLK DART STATION, EXCUSE ME, UM, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING EVERY MONDAY, EVERY LAST MONDAY OF THE MONTH.
UM, WE HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING WITH THEM.
WE GET MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED FAR AS HOUSING, UM, AND, UM, TRANSPORTATION.
AND SO THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON THEIR SPECIFIC GOALS.
UM, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, UM, WORKED WITH ALL THE, ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO FORM THE SOUTH DALLAS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION.
SO NOW WE HAVE MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ALL ON ONE ACCORD WORKING TOGETHER.
AND QUEEN CITY IS NOW GOING THROUGH A HISTORIC, UM, HISTORIC PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT THEY WANT IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
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UM, TANGIBLE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED ALREADY IN REAL TIME FROM THIS AREA PLAN PROCESS WITHOUT IT BEING PASSED YET.AND, UM, I MISSED ONE LAST AND HOW WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO, UM, UM, BUILDERS RESTORING HISTORICAL HOMES AND IDENTIFYING THAT THEY'RE BEING, SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE BEING TOLD COULD HAVE LED TO THEM, UM, TEARING DOWN HISTORICAL HOME BECAUSE OF SETBACKS AND, AND WE WERE TO IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH.
UH, COMMISSIONER, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, PATRICK BLADE'S CHIEF PLANNER WITH COMMUNITY, UM, AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING.
UM, SO THROUGHOUT THE AREA PLANNING PROCESS, WHEN WE'RE DOING COMMUNITY PLANNING, SOMETIMES, UH, THE RESULT OF THAT IS THINGS THAT ARE PRODUCED AS PART OF AN AREA PLAN.
SOMETIMES THERE'S THOSE CLARIFICATIONS THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE THE STAFF IS OUT THERE IN THE FIELD WORKING WITH EITHER A BUILDER OR A COMMUNITY.
AND SO SOME OF THE, UM, UH, SOME OF THE SETBACK ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, UM, SOME OF THE PRACTICES OF SOME BUILDERS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
UH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CITY, THE BUILDERS AND THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE SITUATIONS.
SOMETIMES IT'S GONNA BE, THE RESULT WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION IN AN AREA PLAN.
SOMETIMES IT'S NOT IN THE AREA PLAN 'CAUSE IT'S NOT QUITE APPLICABLE, BUT IT'S APPLICABLE AS IN WE WERE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THAT, UM, WITH EITHER THAT BUILDER, THAT COMMUNITY, UM, OR THE CITY OR SOME, UH, COMBINATION OF THE THREE.
ALSO, I COULD ASK A THOUSAND QUESTIONS, UH, BUT UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST SO HAPPY.
SO THIS IS LITTLE LABOR LOVE AND THANK YOU ALL BOTH.
SO I TURN IT ALL BACK TO THE CH UH, CHAIR.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
UM, MR. JACKSON, GREAT REPORT.
UH, I'M EXCITED TO LOOK AT THIS.
UM, I'M ON THE WEBSITE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT WEBSITE AND THERE'S A TAB FOR THIS PLAN.
I DON'T SEE ANY PLACE TO DOWNLOAD THE DOCUMENT YOU JUST DISTRIBUTED.
YOU SAID YOU THAT YOU WILL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE OR WE'LL EMAIL IT OR SOMETHING.
YES, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE.
YEAH, OUR STAFF IS WORKING ON THAT NOW.
UM, THERE ON THE WEBSITE THERE WILL BE BOTH A LINK TO THE PLAN WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD IT AND ALSO A WAY TO SUBMIT A PUBLIC COMMENT TO IT SO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN DOWNLOAD IT AND THEN SUBMIT A COMMENT, UM, TO CITY STAFF ON IT.
AND THEN, UM, JUST ANOTHER QUESTION AND OBSERVATION.
I, AND JUST IN A QUICK FLIP THROUGH THIS, I, I DO SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, GOOD WORK DONE ON DESIGN STANDARDS AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED HERE.
UM, I WANNA COMMEND YOU FOR NOTING, UM, IN HERE THAT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 7,000 UNDEVELOPED VACANT RESIDENTIAL TRACKS IN THE PLAN AREA, UH, RELIC COMPARED TO 12,418 EXISTING RESIDENCES.
AND SO I, I'M HOPEFUL IN LOOKING AT THE ZONING DIMENSIONS OF THIS, THAT THERE WILL BE THOUGHTS ABOUT GREATER FLEXIBILITY AND, UH, MAKING IT EASIER, UH, AND MORE APPEALING TO DEVELOP THESE 7,000 PROPERTIES, WHICH WOULD REPRESENT AN INCREASE OF OVER 50% OF RESIDENTIAL STOCK IN THE DISTRICT.
AND SO I, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME JUST BRIEFLY IF THE, IF THEY'RE, HOW YOU'RE TARGETING THAT IN THIS PLAN? SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, VICE CHAIR, UH, IT, SO THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT DON'T HAVE AN ACTIVE LAND USE ON THEM.
UM, IN, IN SOUTH DALLAS, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM.
UM, A NUMBER OF THEM ARE ON, UH, THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, UM, THAT ARE SITTING VACANT.
UM, A NUMBER OF THEM ARE ALSO, UM, KIND OF INFO WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE MORE RESIDENTIAL STREET, UM, AND WHAT THE AREA PLAN, UM, WHAT THE TASK FORCE AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAID IS ALONG THOSE BIGGER CORRIDORS OR THOSE NODES, THAT'S WHERE WE WANT THE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT MORE HOUSING THERE, WE WANT MORE FLEXIBILITY THERE.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH ONLY BUILD COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE.
THE PLAN RECOMMENDS CHANGING THAT TO BUILD COMMERCIAL OFFICE OR RESIDENTIAL TO ADD A LOT MORE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ADD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTIAL THERE.
AND THEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE AN ACTIVE LAND USE ON THEM.
SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS.
AND THERE ARE A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF INEQUITY IN HOW THAT SITUATION HAPPENED.
AND SO WHEN WE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY SAID, YES, WE WANT, WE WANT PEOPLE TO BUILD HOUSES AGAIN.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO BUILD A HOUSE NEXT TO MY HOUSE WHERE THERE HASN'T BEEN ONE.
UM, BUT WE DO WANT IT TO MAKE IT LOOK RELATIVELY SIMILAR TO THE HOUSES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
AND SO THIS, THIS PLAN RECOMMENDS, UM, SOME BASIC DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT TALK ABOUT IT SHOULD HAVE A FRONT PORCH AND IT SHOULDN'T BE THREE STORIES TALL AND, YOU KNOW, UM, THE GARAGE SHOULDN'T BE THE MOST PROMINENT THING.
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THAT THE COMMUNITY DESPERATELY WANTS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL STREETS GETS BUILT, BUT GETS BUILT WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPATIBILITY TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURES WHILE GIVING THAT FLEXIBILITY ALONG THE COMMERCIAL NODES, UM, OR ALONG THE BIGGER STREETS.UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF CASES HERE, UM, THAT ARE GENERALLY IN PD 5 95 WHERE, UH, IT'S AN R FIVE SITE AND SOMEONE IS MAKING AN APPLICATION FOR A DUPLEX.
DOES THE PLAN ADDRESS THAT PRESSURE, UH, THAT, THAT TREND? IT, IT DOES.
UM, IT, IT'S ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION.
UM, SO WHEN WE TALKED TO THE, THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, THEY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DUPLEXES IN SOUTH DALLAS AND THEY'RE ALL OVER SOUTH DALLAS.
UM, AND THAT THE OLDER DUPLEXES AND YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT SOMETIMES THEY'RE JUST A HOUSE WITH TWO FRONT DOORS.
AND SO IT'S NOT THAT DUPLEXES ARE A BAD THING, IT'S THAT SOME OF THE NEW DUPLEXES, JUST THE LOOK OF THEM JUST FEELS SO OUT OF PLACE.
AND SO WHAT THE PLAN RECOMMENDS IS CREATING A, A DUPLEX ZONING DISTRICT TO SAY, HERE'S A DUPLEX ZONING DISTRICT THAT, THAT HAS A COMPATIBLE DESIGN FOR A DUPLEX.
SO IF A CASE COMES BEFORE CPC, THE COMMUNITY CAN SAY, YES, THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION.
IF YOU MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A GOOD DUPLEX, UM, IT DOESN'T REZONE THE, THE R FIVE TO ALLOW A DUPLEX BY RIGHT.
BUT IT DOES GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY A BETTER TOOL TO SAY, OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR A DUPLEX.
WE CAN APPROVE THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY'RE GONNA BUILD IT IN A BETTER WAY.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A BETTER, UM, DUPLEX SUBDISTRICT IN, IN THE PD.
WELL THAT, THAT'S HELPFUL ACTUALLY.
SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT COMMUNITY INPUT WAS SUCH THAT, UM, IT WASN'T AN OPPOSITION TO DUPLEX LAND USE PARTICULARLY.
IT WAS THE DESIGNS THAT COME ALONG WITH THAT AND THAT REALLY THE ISSUE IS ADDRESSING THE DESIGN STANDARDS MORE THAN NECESSARILY KEEPING DUPLEX OUT OF AN R FIVE AREA.
UM, THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT IT BY.
UM, AND SO THIS PLAN HONORS THAT NO, A A DUPLEX SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THOSE AREAS, BUT THERE SHOULD BE AN OPTION IF IT IS A GOOD LOCATION AND A, TO HAVE A BETTER DESIGN DUPLEX AT THAT LOCATION STILL HAS TO GO BEFORE CPC, BUT IT GIVES IT OPTION TO SAY, WE'RE OKAY WITH THE DUPLEX OVER HERE.
IF YOU MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A HOUSE THAT HAS TWO FRONT DOORS AS OPPOSED TO A GIGANTIC GARAGE WITH A HOUSE ON TOP OF IT, YOU USE THE TERM IF IT'S A GOOD LOCATION OR THE PLAN, GIVE THE CPC SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT A GOOD LOCATION IS.
UM, IT DOESN'T GIVE MORE PACIFIC GUIDANCE.
UM, IT, IT TALKS ABOUT MORE HOUSING ALONG, UM, COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AND COMMERCIAL NODES.
SOME OF THAT COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS HAVE R FIVE ZONING ON IT.
SO THERE IS THAT GUIDANCE, BUT WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL STREET, UM, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE A GUIDANCE TO SAY THIS HOUSE IS BE, OR THIS LOCATION IS BETTER THAN THAT LOCATION.
IT WOULD STILL BE A CASE BY CASE BASIS, UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE CPC AT THAT POINT.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
IT'S, THIS IS REALLY WELL DONE.
I THINK, UH, THE STUDY AREA IS OUTLINED IN THE DOTTED LINE.
IS THAT PD 5 95 OR IS, IS IT JUST ONLY PART OF THE STUDY AREA THAT IS JUST PART OF THE STUDY AREA? UM, PD 5 95 HAS ANOTHER BOUNDARY.
PRETTY MUCH PD 5 95 DOESN'T ENCOMPASS, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOW FAIR PARK.
IT'S, IT'S LIKE HERE, IT'S MAJORITY OF THE STUDY AREA, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE, UM, FAIR PARK AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THIS, UH, AREA OVER HERE, BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE.
UM, AND WE CAN UPDATE THIS MAP TO HAVE A BOUNDARY LINE OF PD 5 95, BUT THIS IS, IT'S MAJORITY OF THE STUDY AREA IS PD 5 95.
AND SO THE PLAN MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT CITY INITIATED ZONING CHANGES IN THAT PD, BUT AREAS THAT ARE NOT IN THAT PD, IT DOESN'T SAY THE CITY SHOULD MAKE ZONING CHANGES HERE, BUT IT STILL PROVIDES THAT LAND USE GUIDANCE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IN PD 5, 9 5 AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET ISN'T OKAY, WHAT STILL PROVIDES THAT GUIDANCE FOR ACROSS THE STREET? UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S WHEN WE GET TOGETHER AND WE HAD COMMUNITY MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T KNOW THE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND EVEN THE ZONING DISTRICT, IT, IT CAN, IT'S A LITTLE CARVED OUT AT SOMETIMES.
SO IT'S GUIDANCE FOR ALL OF SOUTH DALLAS, NOT JUST THE PD, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES IN THAT PD.
YEAH, I I, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU PUT THE BOUNDARY OF THE PD ON THERE.
I WOULD PERSONALLY FIND THAT HELPFUL.
BUT, UM, I'M FASCINATED BY COMMISSIONER HOW HOUSE OBSERVATION ABOUT 7,000
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PLUS VACANT LOTS.UH, I, I REALIZE IT WOULD BE AN EXTREMELY WORST CASE SCENARIO IF SOMEONE WANTED TO PUT A DUPLEX ON 7,000 LOTS.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA MEAN A LOT OF CASES COMING BEFORE CPC IF WE HAD TO DO EACH LOT INDIVIDUALLY.
UH, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A VERY EFFICIENT PROCESS FOR DEVELOPING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO, UM, AND WE NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NUMBER IS 7,000, THAT, THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT HIGH.
I THINK, UM, IT, I THINK IT'S 700.
I THINK THAT'S THE RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES, UM, IN THE PD I THINK THERE'S 700 THAT ARE VACANT.
AND I, WE CAN DOUBLE FOLLOW BACK UP AND DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS RIGHT.
BUT, UM, 'CAUSE THE LANE USE GUIDANCE ISN'T THAT DUPLEXES SHOULD BE BUILT ALL OVER SOUTH DALLAS.
IT'S THAT THAT'S A THING THAT CAN HAPPEN HERE, BUT NOT ALL OVER SOUTH DALLAS.
IT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT EVERY, EVERY PROPERTY IS A DUPLEX.
IT SHOULD, IT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY 100% DID NOT SAY THAT THEY DON'T WANT THAT.
AND THE PLAN DOESN'T SAY THAT.
THE PLAN SAYS THAT THE, THAT A DUPLEX IS A THING THAT CAN OCCUR WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IF IT'S, WELL, IF IT'S BETTER DESIGNED AND IT STILL WOULD BE A ZONING CASE.
SO IT'S NOT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S STILL THE COMMUNITY WANTED AND, YOU KNOW, STAFF AGREED THAT CHANGING ALL OF THIS TO ALLOW DUPLEXES WOULD CREATE A, A, A, A PRESSURE ON A DISPLACEMENT DIRECT AND INDIRECT IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S THE GUIDANCE THAT SAYS IT SHOULDN'T BE BUY RIGHT ALL OVER, BUT IT SHOULD BE AN OPTION IF A DEVELOPER WANTS TO COME IN, WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, THIS IS A BETTER LOCATION AND I'M GONNA MAKE A BETTER DESIGN.
WE HAVE A ZONING DISTRICT THAT THEN GETS YOU THAT BETTER DESIGN.
DO YOU, DO YOU LOOK AT, UM, LAND, LAND VALUE, LAND COST? IS THAT ANY, DOES THAT HAVE ANY IMPACT OR ANY FACTOR ON THINKING ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT? I MEAN, YES, THE, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF TASK FORCE AND CITY STAFF, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT VERY AWARE OF.
UM, ESPECIALLY HERE IN, IN SOUTH DALLAS.
JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, I DO NOT THINK YOU CAN GO TO A PUBLIC MEETING IN SOUTH DALLAS WITHOUT PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, THE BIG JUMP IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF THE PROPERTY VALUES IN THE TAX VALUES THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER HERE.
AND, AND THAT MIGHT IMPACT WHETHER A SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX OR WHATEVER WOULD BE BUILT ON A PARTICULAR PROPERTY, I WOULD THINK.
BUT, UM, IS, IS ANY OF THAT INFORMATION ABOUT MEDIAN LAND COST OR SOMETHING IN, IN THE PLAN DOCUMENTS ANYWHERE IN THE HOUSING SECTION? UM, IT IS MENTIONED ABOUT THE, UM, MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD VALUE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM 2020 TO 2025, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING.
SO WE DO SPEAK TO THAT, UM, ABOUT THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD, UH, PROPERTY VALUE IN THE HOUSING SECTION.
THAT I, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD FIND OF INTEREST, BUT WHETHER IT'S RELEVANT TO ANYTHING, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FIRST ROUND BEFORE WE GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR A SECOND ROUND? NO.
ALRIGHT, BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
UM, YES, UH, CAN YOU SPEAK, UH, ON THE AMOUNT OF LOTS, CAN YOU, CAN, CAN LINDSEY OR PATRICK, CAN YOU ALL SPEAK TO THE REASON THAT THERE HAS BEEN SO MANY LOTS THAT, UH, BY ANY CHANCE IS A GOOD MAJORITY OF THOSE LOTS OWNED BY CITY OF DALLAS AND THE LAND BANK? UM, YES, COMMISSIONER, UM, A NUMBER OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, OR THAT ARE ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY IN SOUTH DALLAS, A NUMBER OF THEM ARE OWNED BY THE LAND BANK.
AS FAR AS WHY PROPERTIES IN INCLUDING THE LAND BANK HAVE NOT DEVELOPED, UM, THAT IS A VERY COMPLEX QUESTION.
AND DO WE HAVE QUITE, BUT WE ALSO, UH, ARE YOU AWARE THAT QUITE A BIT OF THOSE HOMES ARE BEING, UM, HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED, THOSE LOTS ARE BEING DISTRIBUTED OUT TO, UH, UH, ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT, UH, CHOTO OR CDCS IN THE AREA THAT ARE ACTIVELY BUILDING? UH, YES, COMMISSIONER, THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.
AND THAT SOME, UH, ALSO THAT WITHIN PD 5, 9 5, WE HAVE CREATED SOME PDS, UH, SUCH AS THE ONE ON SECOND AVENUE, UM, TO HELP SAVE THOSE LEGACY, UH, BUSINESSES WHO HAVE OUTSIDE SALES.
UM, ALSO THE RECREATION OF THE, THE, UH, THE TOWN HOME DISTRICT OFF OF BEAR STREET AND ALSO THE CHANGES
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FOR THE, UH, AND THE PD, A PD THAT WAS HELPED SUPPORT, UH, A COMBINATION OF MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE USES, UH, AND DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL TYPES IN THE JEFFREY MYERS AREA.YES, THOSE, UM, AS, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER HALL'S QUESTION, UM, THOSE ARE, THIS PLAN INCLUDES LAND USE GUIDANCE FOR THOSE AREAS, BUT DOESN'T INCLUDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES IN THOSE SEPARATE PDS BECAUSE THE, UM, THE AUTHORIZED HEARING DID NOT INCLUDE THOSE PDS, BUT THEY, BUT THOSE AREAS DO HAVE, HAVE ALREADY WAS ALREADY BEFORE THIS WAS EVEN STARTED THAT THE CITY HAD ALREADY, UM, STARTED, STARTED SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT LAND USES HOME TYPES, ESPECIALLY IN THE JEFFREY MEYER AREA.
AND, UM, I WANNA SAY, UM, CLOSE TO IN BETWEEN THE ST.
PHILLIPS AND THE CORNERSTONE AREA.
THAT HAS QUITE A BIT OF LIKE OPEN LOTS.
COMMISSIONER, YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.
UH, EXCUSE ME, MR. BLADES, I DO STAND CORRECTED.
IT'S 700 IT SAYS, SO ON PAGE 34 AND 36, THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE SPEED READING, UH, DANGER.
SO, UH, APOLOGIES, BUT 700 IS THE NUMBER, IT'S STILL A LOT YY YES, THAT NUMBER SOUNDS, UM, MUCH CLOSER.
UH, BUT YES, THERE ARE A, A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES AS YOURSELF, UM, AND SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE POINTED OUT THAT DO NOT HAVE A STRUCTURE ON THEM.
UM, AND A NUMBER OF THEM HAVE NOT HAD A STRUCTURE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THERE IS SOME INEQUITIES AND HOW THAT HAPPENED.
UM, WHICH THE PLAN TRIES TO SPEAK TO AND CREATE SOME BETTER LAND USE GUIDANCE FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.
WELL, COULD YOU SAY THAT QUITE A BIT OF THOSE ARE IN LIKE A DESIGNATED AREA THAT IS, IS GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH SOME TYPE OF REDEVELOPMENT SUCH, AGAIN, SUCH AS THE JEFFREY MAY AREA, THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, AREAS WHERE THESE, SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES HAD SMALL, SMALL APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON IT.
AND, UM, AND SO THOSE ATTRIBUTED TO WHY THEY, THEY HAVEN'T HAD, UH, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE.
AND, UM, AND, AND I GUESS THOSE BIGGEST AREAS WOULD BE THE MIAH AREA AND THE AREA, UH, THE HOMES.
HOMES AND IRV AREA OR HAR UH, YEAH, THAT, THOSE AREAS DOWN ON THAT END JUST TO, UM, MARTIN JONES.
YEAH, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UM, REASONS FOR SOME OF THE, THE UNDERDEVELOPED PROPERTIES THAT ARE OVER THERE.
UM, THE PLAN TRIES TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THOSE REASONS, UM, BOTH ACKNOWLEDGING THEM, UM, AND THEN TRYING TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE, UM, TO, TO GET DEVELOPMENT ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
BUT, UM, YES, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS THE PLAN CAN, IT TRIES TO SPEAK TO THE REASONS WHY, UM, BOTH REAL AND, UM, UM, PERCEPTION, UM, ON, ON WHY THERE HAS BEEN, UM, HISTORIC AND EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT AND VACANCY IN SOUTH DALLAS.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN AND I UNDER, OH, MR. BLADES AND I WOULD JUST SAY, UM, AS MS. JACKSON MENTIONED, UM, WE WERE ASKING FOR, UM, ANY CHANGES OR COMMENTS BY, UH, FRIDAY THE SECOND, UM, IN PARTICULAR ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES SO THAT WAY WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THOSE TOGETHER, UM, AND GET THEM TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, UH, TO REVIEW.
SO IT'S, UM, LESS ABOUT A, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A, A COMMENT THAT COMES UP AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE AND EVERYONE HAS TO, TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS.
UM, IF THERE ARE SMALLER CHANGES, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE AFTER THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S A, YOU SAID WHERE, BUT YOU HAVE IT, IT SHOULD BE WERE AS OPPOSED TO THE H.
UM, BUT LOOKING FOR THE BIGGER QUESTIONS OR, UM, COMMENTS, UM, BY, UH, NEXT FRIDAY TO MYSELF AND MS. JACKSON.
ALRIGHT, UM, MOVING ON OUR AGENDA TO ITEM TWO, UM, THAT IS A CASE THAT GOT REMANDED BACK TO US BECAUSE OF A NOTIFICATION ERROR OR SOME OTHER TECHNICAL AREA ERROR.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU NEED THIS ONE RE BRIEFED? ARE YOU OKAY TO WITHOUT A BRIEFING ON IT? COMMISSIONER WHEELER? I THINK YOU'RE, UH, I DON'T NEED IT BRIEFED IF THE, IF THE COMMISSION MIGHT NEED A BRIEF, BUT WE DON'T, I I WANNA SAY THIS WAS REFERRED BACK TO US BECAUSE OF IT WASN'T PROPERLY, UM, I WANNA SAY IT WAS REFERRED BACK TO CPC BECAUSE IT WASN'T PROPERLY NOTICED.
I SEE MS. AL GUYER STEPPING TO THE MICROPHONE.
YES, THE ISSUE, UM, WAS THAT THERE'S A SMALL CORNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS
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ZONED AN NC SUBDISTRICT RATHER THAN THE R FIVE A SUBDISTRICT.AND WE DIDN'T MENTION THE LITTLE PIECE THAT'S THE NC SUBDISTRICT.
SO IT IS MAKING ITS WAY BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS JUST TO INCLUDE THE ZONING AT THAT CORNER, BUT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO CHANGE TO THE CASE OR ANY, I MEAN, IT'S JUST TO RE-NOTICE.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE NOW THAT WE HAVE MS. ALLGEIER? ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON.
UM, DOES ANYONE WANT CASE NUMBER THREE Z 2 2 3 2 4 4? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER DOES, SO WE WILL GO TO MS. GARZA.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS KZ 2 23 2 44.
THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AN R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF GROVE CREST DRIVE WEST OF CONNOR DRIVE.
THIS IS LOCATION MAP, UH, THE AERIAL MAP ZONING MAP, UM, SURROUNDING USES OUR, UH, SINGLE FAMILY TOWARDS THE NORTH, UH, SINGLE FAMILY TOWARDS THE, UH, WEST UNDEVELOPED AND MULTIFAMILY TOWARDS THE SOUTH.
AND THEN ON THE EAST SIDE ACROSS THE ALLEY, THERE'S A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WITH DRIVE-IN WINDOW, UH, GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE LESS IN, UH, 3,500 SQUARE FEET.
AND THEN, UM, THE DISTRICTS AROUND, UM, THE SITE IS, AS I MENTIONED, R SEVEN FIVE A TOWARDS THE NORTH IS, UM, MF TWO TOWARDS THE EAST MF TWO A AND L OH ONE DISTRICT.
UH, SOUTH IS CR AND MF ONE, AND THEN TORSO WEST IS PD NUMBER 360 6.
SO THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH A SURFACE PARKING LOT THAT IS UTILIZED BY THE BANK ACROSS THE ALLEY TO THE EAST.
THE PURPOSE OF THE QUIZ IS TO MAKE THE EXISTING PARKING LOT COMPLIANT WITH ZONING AND TO CONTINUE TO SERVE AS ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE BANK ON THE WEST.
UH, SIDE AMENDS TOWARDS THE EAST SIDE OF THE SIDE ACROSS THE ALLEY.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE SIDE PHOTOS ON SIDE LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTH, AND THEN SURROUNDING USES, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING EAST, LOOKING NORTH, AND THEN LOOKING WEST, OH, THIS IS TOWARDS THE, WHERE THE BANK IS.
AND THEN LOOKING WEST AGAIN, AND THEN WEST AND THEN WEST AGAIN.
AND THESE ARE THE DILEMMA STANDARDS THAT ARE, UM, FROM EXISTING R SEVEN FIVE A TO THE PROPOSED MU ONE AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UH, YES.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT'S DRIVING THIS ZONING CASE? UM, SO, UM, I BELIEVE, UM, THIS SURFACE PARKING HAS BEEN THERE FOR, UM, A DECADES.
UM, HOWEVER, I BELIEVE, UH, CODE WENT OUT AND SAW THAT THE DISTRICT WAS R SEVEN FIVE A.
SO THEY LET, UH, THE BANK KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, REQUEST A ZONING CHANGE TO BE IN COMPLIANT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT AS A PARKING LOT.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT UM, MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR UNRESTRICTED MU ONE ZONING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST A STRAIGHT REZONING CHANGE TO MU ONE.
I MEAN, YES, IT ENABLES THEM TO CONTINUE USING IT AS A PARKING LOT, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS ANY OTHER USE BY RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF WHICH COULD BE VERY ACTIVE USES, YOU KNOW, DRIVE-THROUGHS AND SUCH WITH, WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY.
UM, DID STAFF HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT, UM, SO UPZONING THIS TO ALLOW MORE ACTIVE USES? UH, THE REASON WHY, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDED AN MU ONE IS BECAUSE THERE IS, UM, THE MULTIFAMILY, UM, DISTRICT AROUND AND, UH, WE DIDN'T, UH, BELIEVE THAT, UH, CR WOULD BE A BETTER
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USE FOR, FOR THAT, UH, STRICT.SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE WENT WITH AN MU ONE AS MU ONE, UM, DOES, IS MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE MULTIFAMILY AROUND DISTRICT.
I, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO JUST SAY.
YOU, YOU THOUGHT THAT CR WOULD BE THE MOST COMPATIBLE ZONING, BUT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING MU ONE? NO, NO.
THAT, UH, WE DIDN'T THINK THAT A CR OR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE MF TWO, AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE RECOMMENDED THE MU ONE.
BUT THE MU ONE ALLOWS A GREAT MANY USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN CR THAT WOULD BE SEEMINGLY INCOMPATIBLE.
AND IF I COULD ADD A, A COMMENT ON THAT.
UM, SO ME ONE ALSO ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY, SO IT, THE DISTRICT ALLOWS A WIDE VARIETY OF USES.
CAN WE TAKE IT OFF CONSENT? YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE NUMBER THREE OFF CONSENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON, ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, THEN WE WILL MOVE ALONG TO CASE NUMBER FOUR.
I THINK THIS IS A, THIS IS A NEW PLANNER.
DOES SOMEONE WANNA INTRODUCE THEM? MS. MAY OR, OR MS. WEER.
I'M GONNA MAKE A QUICK INTRODUCTION.
UH, THIS IS JORDAN GREGORY, HE'S ONE OF OUR REASON NICHOLS CONSULTANTS.
SO HE, UM, IS HERE AND SO IS CHERYL CALDWELL.
UM, SHE'S GOT THE, THE NEXT CASE IF YOU WANT THAT BRIEFED.
THAT'S, UH, HER INITIALS ARE CC.
Z 2 34 DASH 180 9 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUP LOCATED AT 77 71 GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY.
UM, SO THIS IS A NEW SUP FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL, UM, BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GENERAL MERCHANDISE STORE LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
UM, THE, UH, SITE AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 2000 2100 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS WHERE IT IS, UH, WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
AND THEN THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, THERE'S SOME AUTOMOTIVE SERVICES SURROUNDING IT.
UH, TO THE SOUTH YOU HAVE SOME RESTAURANTS IN, UH, RETAIL, THERE'S ALSO SOME RESIDENTIAL.
SO TO THE NORTH YOU DO HAVE A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT AND THEN THERE IS SOME SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, THERE IS A MF TWO A TO THE NORTH, UM, SOME CS.
THE AREA OF REQUEST IS, UH, AN RR REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN TO THE SOUTH YOU DO HAVE R DASH 7.5.
SO, UH, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS SUP FOR THIS LOCATION.
UM, THE APPLICANTS DID NOT MEET THE WINDOW AND SO THIS IS A NEW REQUEST.
UM, AND IT IS LOCATED WITHIN A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS SUP.
THIS IS SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS.
SO THIS IS LOOKING EAST AT THE BUILDING.
UM, SO THE AREA OF REQUEST IS TO, UM, WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED LIKE THE SOUTHERN AREA OF THE BUILDING.
UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU IN THAT IN A MOMENT.
ON THE SITE PLAN, THIS IS ACROSS HILLBURN LOOKING WEST, SO THIS IS SORT OF WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UM, PARTIALLY THE REAR.
UM, THIS IS THE, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE THAT IS MAKING THE REQUEST.
AND THEN THIS IS TO THE REAR WHERE THE, UM, TRASH RECEPTACLE IS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS SOME WORK HAPPENING TO THE NORTH.
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THAT THIS WAS CITY INITIATED WORK ON THE CREEK.THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AND THEN THIS IS THE SITE PLAN JUST ROTATED AND ENLARGED.
UM, SO THIS IS THE AREA OF REQUEST WHERE THAT CONVENIENCE STORE IS.
THE REST OF THE BUILDING IS, UH, CURRENTLY VACANT.
THESE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGES TO THESE AND THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS.
UM, THEY ARE TRYING TO MATCH THE PREVIOUS SUP.
UM, THE, UH, PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS SUP DID HAVE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
UM, AND THEN ONE THING I DID WANNA NOTE IS THAT IT'S LIMITED TO THE 2100 SQUARE FEET.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO THE SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL CASE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S SAID IN THE CASE, UH, THEY WERE REQUESTING THIS SUP FOR A PLANNED CONVENIENCE STORE, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A CONVENIENCE STORE THERE, ISN'T THERE? YES SIR.
SO, UM, IT IS WITHIN A CONVENIENCE STORE THAT IS PRESENT.
SO THEY'RE NOT BUILDING A NEW, A NEW CONVENIENCE STORE? NO, SIR.
IT'S GOING INTO THE EXISTING, YES, SIR.
UH, IS THIS FOR THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE ONLY? YES SIR.
YEAH, NO, NO SPIRITS OR HARD? NO SIR.
THERE APPARENTLY WAS SOME CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE HAD A LETTER IN OPPOSITION THAT SAID, WE DON'T NEED REALLY HARD LIQUOR SALES.
SO I'M, UH, THEY HAVE AN ACTIVE, UM, TABC LICENSE AND IT'S, UM, THE Q LICENSE AND THAT ALLOWS THEM TO SELL MALT BEVERAGES AND WINE, NOT ONLY.
COMMISSIONER HALL, UH, COMMERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UM, NUMBER FIVE IS GOING TO BE HELD UNTIL MAY 8TH, SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE NEED A BRIEFING ON THIS ONE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU LIKE THIS ONE? BRIEFED
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER DOES, IS NOT REQUESTING A BRIEFING.
DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT IT BRIEFED? ALRIGHT, WE CAN MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO CASE NUMBER SEVEN UNDER ADVISEMENT.
UM, HAS THIS BEEN COMMISSIONER WHEELER? CAN I, CAN I, CAN I GET A CLARITY WHICH ONES ARE BEING, WHICH ONES ARE, UH, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS SURE.
OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH WAS IN THE DOCKET IS ITEMS TWO THROUGH SIX.
WHAT'S LEFT ON CONSENT IS TWO, FOUR, AND SIX.
THREE AND FIVE ARE, COME, HAVE, COME OFF AND WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ONE HAS BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE OR NOT.
DOES ANYONE WANT THAT ONE BRIEFED? IT HAS.
DOES ANYONE NEED AN UPDATE OR A BRIEFING ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT, WE CAN MOVE ALONG.
I WILL BE STEPPING UP BECAUSE I HAVE A CONFLICT.
OKAY, THE RECORD REFLECT THAT, UH, CHAIR, UH, RUBEN HAS LEFT THE ROOM.
UM, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UM, MS. GARZA, YOU GONNA BRIEF US ON THAT PLEASE? ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS KZ 2 34 2 79.
THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT PROPERTY ZONE, A GR GENERAL RETAIL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 180 3, THE ELK OAKLAND SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF MAPLE AVENUE AND HAWTHORNE AVENUE.
THE AERIAL MAP ZONING MAP TOWARDS THE NORTH IS A VACANT CAR WASH TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST IS A PARK TOWARDS THE SOUTHEAST IS A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN SERVICE.
UH, RETAIL FOOD STORE TOWARDS THE NORTHWEST.
UM, IT'S A BAR LOUNGE OR TAVERN RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE-IN SERVICE.
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THERE'S ALSO AN OUTER REPAIR GARAGE, UH, INSIDE.AND THERE'S ALSO UNDEVELOPED LAND TOWARDS THE SOUTH, UH WEST, A SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIPLE FAMILY.
THE AREA QUEST IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITHIN APPROXIMATELY 2,700 SQUARE FOOT, A ONE STORY BUILDING ERECTED IN 1972 PER, UH, DCA RECORDS.
THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY A ZONE A GR GENERAL RETAIL SUBDISTRICT.
WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, NUMBER 180 3, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD A DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOW TO THE EXISTING RESTAURANT BUILDING UNDER THE GR SUBDISTRICT.
THE EXISTING RESTAURANT IS PERMITTED BY RIDE.
THE PROPOSED DRIVE THROUGH COMPONENT REQUIRES A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
THERE THEY ARE REQUESTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THROUGH.
AND THEN ON MARCH, UH, 20 OF THIS YEAR, CPC HELD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT TO THIS MEETING.
AND CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE, UM, TO THE REQUEST SINCE THE LAST HEARING AND THEY WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON MAPLE AVENUE, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, THEN LOOKING SOUTHWEST AGAIN, LOOKING SOUTH SURROUNDING USES ON SIDE, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING NORTHEAST, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, AND THEN LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING WEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST.
AND THEN THIS IS A CY PLAN THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
AND THEN THE PROPOSED, UM, SUP CONDITIONS.
AND UM, AS MENTIONED, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, DONE, UH, CHANGES.
THEY'VE ADDED THE DRIVE THROUGH LOUDSPEAKER, UH, COMPONENT TO THE SUP CONDITIONS.
UH, RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SIP PLAN AND CONDITIONS QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, I BELIEVE IS THE, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, UH, MS. GARZA, IS IT CORRECT THAT THROUGH THE ENGINEERING REVIEW, UM, THE, THE APPLICANT IS AWARE THAT THERE MAY BE MODIFICATIONS BASED ON THE MAPLE AVENUE SAFETY PLAN? YES.
AND UM, IS IT ALSO CORRECT THAT THIS, UM, DRIVE THROUGH IT'S, UH, HAS PREVIOUSLY HAD A DRIVE THROUGH, HASN'T BEEN IN SERVICE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND THAT'S WHY THE REQUEST IS BACK AND FORTH TODAY? THERE'S ESSENTIALLY REOPENING A PRIOR DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW? YES.
SO I BELIEVE THIS BUILDING USED TO BE A JERRY QUEEN AND THEY DID HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW, UM, BUT IT WAS LATER REMOVED, NOT SURE WHEN IT WAS REMOVED.
AND THAT'S IN YOUR SITE PHOTOS.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THAT VERY CLOSE DRIVE VI IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.
AND AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST REACTIVATING THAT PRIOR, UM, CONFIGURATION.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, MS. GARZA.
UM, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE, UM, CONDITION THAT WAS ADDED TO THE SUP NUMBER SIX SAYING THAT THE DRIVE THROUGH LOUD, IT SHOULD BE SPEAKER INSTEAD OF P SPEAKER.
IT SAYS USE OF DRIVE THROUGH LOUDSPEAKER MUST COMPLY WITH PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 1 93 SECTION NUMBERS DRIVE THROUGH LOUDSPEAKER REGULATIONS.
IS THAT NECESSARY AS THIS SUP IS IN 1 93? WOULDN'T IT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE APPLICABLE REGULATIONS OF PD 1 93? YES, THAT IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT WANTED TO ADD JUST IN CASE.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, UH, HE, I BELIEVE HE IS, HE DOES NOT WANT TO ADD A, A LOUD SPEAKER, BUT, UM, TALKING TO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, UM, HE DID MENTION THAT MAYBE IN, IN THE FUTURE, UM, BUT HE DOES HAVE TO COMPLY.
THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE PUT IN.
COULD I ASK, UH, MS. MORRISON IF THAT'S REQUIRED? YEAH.
THE CONDITION IS NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE WHETHER THAT CONDITION IS IN THE SUP OR NOT, UM, THE OPERATOR WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY, UH, WITH THOSE CONDITIONS IN PD 1 93.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, UH, SCENE NONE.
WE WILL INVITE CHAIR RUBIN BACK INTO THE ROOM AND, UH, PROCEED TO, UH, CASE NINE, WHICH ALSO IS MS. GARZA.
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THIS ONE BEEN BRIEF BEFORE? YES.ITEM NUMBER NINE IS KZ 2 3 4 360.
SO THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A PLANNED ON DISTRICT FOR AN MF THREE, A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT USES AND TWO REMOVAL OF A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON PROPERTY ZONE CRD ONE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH THE D ONE OVERLAY.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF, SO JIM MILLER ROAD AND GRAY TRINITY FOREST WAY.
THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP SURROUNDING USES OUR MULTI-FAMILY RETAIL TOWARDS THE NORTH UNDEVELOPED MULTI-FAMILY TOWARDS THE WEST, I MEAN TOWARDS THE EAST, MULTI-FAMILY TOWARDS THE SOUTH, AND THEN SINGLE AND RETAIL TOWARDS THE WEST.
THE AREA REQUEST IS CURRENTLY ZONED CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT AND IS UNDEVELOPED.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES MULTI-FAMILY USES ON SITE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT BASED ON MF THREE, A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT.
THE REQUEST WOULD ALSO REMOVE THE EXISTING D ONE OVERLAY, WHICH WOULD NOT BE RELEVANT TO THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL ZONING AS D ONE REALLY TYPICALLY APPLIES ONLY TO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ONLY.
AND THEN ON MARCH 20 OF THIS YEAR, CITY PLAN COMMISSION HELD THIS ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT TO THIS MEETING.
CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING PD CONDITIONS SINCE THE LAST HEARING AND ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
THESE ARE, UM, SITE PHOTOS LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING SOUTH, AND THEN LOOKING EAST ON JIM MILLER IN GREENS TOWARDS THE NORTH AND THEN TOWARDS THE EAST.
AND THEN SURROUNDING USES TOWARDS THE NORTH, TOWARDS THE WEST NORTH AND THEN ON JIM MILLER.
AND THIS IS A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THEN ENLARGED, UM, OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THEN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE EXISTENT CR AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MF THREE MULTIFAMILY BASE.
AND THEN SO WHAT THEY DID CHANGE, I FORGOT TO PUT IT IN THERE, BUT, UM, PREVIOUSLY THEY HAD, UM, BASE ON THE G-M-M-V-A CATEGORY FOR THE AREA OF 5% OF UNITS TO BE PROVIDED.
THEY HAD ORIGINALLY, UM, REQUESTED 81 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
HOWEVER, NOW IT'S BEING CHANGED TO 61 TO 80% OF THE AREA MEDIUM INCOME STATUTE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF ONE A
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MS. GARZA.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, MS. GARZA, UM, THE MAIN EXCEPTION THIS PROJECT IS GETTING THROUGH THIS PD IS EXEMPTION FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE AND URBAN FARM SETBACKS.
IS THAT CORRECT? QUESTION? I SAY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THROUGH THIS PD IS AN EXEMPTION FROM RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE IN THE URBAN FORM SETBACK.
THOSE ARE THE MAIN EXCEPTIONS THEY'RE BEING GRANTED? YES.
UM, WITH, UH, MF THREE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO 90 FEET.
DO YOU KNOW IF RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE
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WERE IN EFFECT? WHAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD'VE BEEN ACHIEVABLE HERE? UM, NOT AWARE.UM, IN MF THREE, ORDINARILY ONE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE SURFACE PARKING TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, BUT I NOTICED THAT EXPLICITLY IN THIS, UH, PD, IT, IT, IT, EVEN THOUGH THE GENERAL PD DEFAULTS TO THE MF THREE STANDARDS, IT IT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO PARK, UM, IN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK.
UM, AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? IS THAT SOMETHING THEY WOULDN'T GENERALLY GET AN MF THREE OR IS THAT A COMPLICATION THAT'S INTRODUCED BY THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING REGULATIONS IN 1107? I'M NOT SURE.
'CAUSE IT'S SECTION ONE 15 C DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS NUMBER TWO, IT SAYS SURFACE PARKING MAY BE PROVIDED WITHIN THE FRONT YARD SETBACK, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GENERALLY ALLOWED IN MF THREE.
UH, I'LL NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK ON ON THAT.
AND MY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT PARKING IS UNDER 1 0 9 B WHERE IT SAYS, FOR A PROJECT THAT QUALIFIES FOR A BONUS PURSUANT TO SECTION NUMBER REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING FOR A MULTIFAMILY USE MUST BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 51 A 4 11 0 7 C TWO, BUT THEN DOWN UNDER, UM, ONE 15 C ONE IT SAYS, EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THE SECTION, COMPLIANCE WITH 1107 IS REQUIRED.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, WOULD NOT WHAT'S UNDER 1 0 9 B BE UNNECESSARY? YEAH.
AND I REALIZE THAT THESE QUESTIONS REQUIRE SOME LOOKING INTO, I JUST WANTED TO
MS. GARZA, I SEE THAT THERE'S A CREEK THAT FLOWS THROUGH THIS AREA, UM, ELAM CREEK, AND THIS MAY BE A BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR MR. MANN THIS AFTERNOON, BUT ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH, UH, THAT THAT CREEK WILL POSE, UH, TO THE, UH, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT? I AM NOT AWARE.
I'LL, I'LL ASK MR. MANN THIS AFTERNOON THEN.
UH, ANYONE ELSE ON THE FIRST ROUND BEFORE WE GO? COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN? UH, I DO HAVE A, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN ITSELF? UH, I JUST WANT TO GET ORIENTED ON, UH, WHERE THE ENTRANCE TO, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE.
UH, WILL THEY BE BOTH ON A GREAT TRINITY IN JIM MILLER AND IF SO, IT, I CAN'T SEE LIKE WHEREABOUT WOULD THE ENTRANCES BE? YES, SO THE MAIN ENTRANCE, I BELIEVE IT'S ON GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY, AND THEN THEY DO HAVE ANOTHER ENTRANCE ON JIM JIM MILLER.
BUT THE MAIN INTEREST IS IT'S ALONG, UH, GRAY TRINITY FOREST.
AND, UH, JUST FOR MY, UH, OWN EDUCATION, THIS IS BEING DEFINED AS A MIXED INCOME, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BUT IT, IT IS TRUE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT I AM NOT, UM, AWARE OF THAT.
THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT THE APPLICANT MAY ANSWER.
I, I, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED SOME, SOME CLARITY LANGUAGE TO BE INCLUDED INTO THE PD.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU RECEIVED THAT.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY AMENDMENTS TO, TO THE CONDITIONS.
OKAY, WELL I'LL MAKE SURE HE GET THAT OVER TO YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? FIRST ROUND? ALRIGHT, SECOND ROUND TO MR. CARPENTER? YES, MS. GARZA.
UM, UNDER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT SAYS, FOR PROJECT RECEIVING A BONUS PURSUANT TO THE SECTION NUMBER DEVELOPMENT AND USE OF THE PROPERTY MUST COMPLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN EXHIBIT A.
UM, AND IF THERE'S A CONFLICT, THE TEXT OF THE ARTICLE CONTROLS THE TEXT OF THIS PD DOES NOT MENTION TREE PRESERVATION AREA OR TREE, YOU KNOW, ANY AMOUNT OF LAND DEDICATED TO TREE PRESERVATION ANY WAY.
SO ALTHOUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED HERE DOES IDENTIFY A, UH, TREE PRESERVATION AREA, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, DEVELOPERS OR APPLICANTS ARE FREE TO, UM,
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SUBMIT LATER DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT ONLY HAVE TO, UH, MEET THE TEXT OF THE PD.UM, DOES THIS LANGUAGE HERE SAYING THAT THIS MUST COMPLY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN CONTROL, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR MS. MORRIS MORRISON.
I THINK MS. MORRISON HAD TO BRIEFLY STEP OUT.
AND I SEE MS. GYER STEPPING UP.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I, SO I I ALSO, I HAVE AN ANSWER REAL QUICK, I THINK.
UM, SECTION ONE 19 TALKS ABOUT A TREE PRE PRESERVATION AREA ON PAGE 14.
I'M SORRY, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? MS. MAY.
IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, BUILDINGS AND PARKING AREAS MAY NOT BE DEVELOPED WITHIN THE AREA LABELED TREE PRESERVATION AREA ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT PLAN SUBMITTED LATER THAT DOESN'T HAVE TREE PRESERVATION AREA, WOULD THEY STILL BE REQUIRED TO DO SOME TREE PRESERVATION? I MEAN, IT SEEMS THAT ONE OF THE GOALS OF THIS PD IS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE DES UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SO THAT THERE CAN BE TREE PRESERVATION.
I, I HAVE PHIL IRWIN ON THE LINE, I WANT TO GET HIM TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT THIS AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT HE'S MESSAGING ME ABOUT.
AND I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION HERE, WHICH IS THAT ALL OF THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT TREE PRESERVATION AND SUCH SEEMS TO REQUIRE BE, UM, APPLICABLE ONLY IF THEY DO A, UM, PROJECT THAT USES THESE BONUSES, WHICH WOULD BE EXEMPTION FROM RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE AND EXEMPTION FROM URBAN FORM SETBACK.
IF, IF THE PD SAYS NOTHING ABOUT TREE PRESERVATION, WHAT WOULD STOP AN APPLICANT FROM JUST USING THEIR STRAIGHT MF THREE ZONING AND CLEARCUTTING THE PROPERTY AND BUILDING, YOU KNOW, A, A BUYRIGHT RESIDENTIAL PROJECT ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE THAT THAT STAYED WITHIN RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE? UM, HELLO FOLKS.
UH, THIS IS, UH, BILL IRWIN, CHIEF FARBERS, UH, THE TREE REMOVAL AND TREE PROTECTION REGULATIONS ARE PLOTTED ARTICLE 10.
SO ANY METHOD TO, UH, DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY FOLLOWING UNDER THAT CODE AND ALSO ARTICLE FIVE.
SO THE, ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD COME INTO THE PROPERTY WOULD'VE TO FOLLOW ALL THE STANDARDS THAT WE ARE FACING WITH THIS SITE.
IN OTHER WORDS, UH, IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE FALL UNDER THE SAME FOOTPRINT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
MR. IRWIN, YOU'RE BREAKING UP A, A LITTLE BIT.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU COULD REPEAT THE LAST 20 SECONDS OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? UM, BETTER? IT'S, IT'S NOT, NOT GREAT, BUT WHY DON'T WE GIVE IT ANOTHER SHOT? OKAY.
I'LL, I'LL TRY THIS AND I'LL HAVE TO CHANGE MY AUDIO.
UH, SO ESSENTIALLY ARTICLE 10 AND ARTICLE FIVE APPLIES TO THIS PROPERTY.
REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN, THEY STILL ARE BOUND TO THE REGULATIONS OF WHAT'S, WHAT NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED.
AND IF THEY WANT TO NEED TO MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SITE, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE SAME REVIEW.
THE TREES ARE PROTECTED TO THE SAME, THEY WOULD BE REMOVED AND MITIGATED IN THE SAME FASHION ON ANY TYPE OF UH, DEVELOPMENT.
DID I ANSWER THE QUESTION? YES.
IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ARTICLE 10 AND ARTICLE FIVE HAVE, YOU KNOW, STANDARD DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES THAT PROVIDE, UM, SIGNIFICANT TREE PRESERVATION CRITERIA.
UH, AND ARTICLE FIVE REFERS TO ARTICLE 10 DIRECTLY.
ARTICLE 10 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME TREES.
IF THEY WANTED TO COME IN AND REMOVE TREES, UH, ON A SITE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MITIGATING THE SAME FASHION AS THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE DOING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, I'M GONNA HOP IN.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
SO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, THE TREE PRESERVATION AR UH, ELEMENTS AND IN ARTICLES 10 AND FIVE APPLY, IF THEY DO GO WITH M-I-H-D-B, THEN THERE'S EVEN THAT ADDITIONAL LAYER OF TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS BASED ON THE, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IS THAT CORRECT? WITH THE SPECIFIED TREE PRESERVATION AREA OR IS THAT JUST REDUNDANT WITH ARTICLES 10 AND FIVE? UH, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE PLACE THEM REGULATION IN, IN THE, UH, DISTRICT TWO, UH, PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, THEY MAY BE REDUNDANT OR THEY, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE PROBABLY TRYING TO DEFINE THE,
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THE, THE AREA THAT THEY'RE, UH, RE RE RETAINING AS FLOODPLAIN THAT I BELIEVE THEY WERE, UH, SHOWING THIS TO NOT, UH, INTERFERE WITH THE EXISTING FLOODPLAIN AS IS.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HIM WHILE WE'VE, JUST A, A QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE HARM IF WE INCLUDED THAT LANGUAGE IN THE PD ITSELF AS A, A BALANCE AND SUSPENDERS, UH, SAFEGUARDS? I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO READ THAT THE LANGUAGE AGAIN CAREFULLY, BUT GENERALLY I DON'T, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD, UH, NOT OVERRIDE ARTICLE 10 AS FAR AS, UH, UH, WE WE'RE APPLYING THE, THE REGULATIONS EQUALLY.
TYPICALLY, IF, IF WE'RE JUST GONNA REPEAT WHAT'S IN THE BASE CODE, WE, IT WOULD BE REDUNDANT TO PUT IT IN THE PD.
SO IF WE WERE GONNA GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, UM, THE, THE WHAT ARTICLE 10 AND ARTICLE FIVE WOULD OFFER ANYWAY, THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD NEED TO PUT ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE ONLY IF WE'RE GONNA BECOME MORE RESTRICTIVE.
BUT IF IT'S JUST TO BE THE SAME, I I, OUR ATTORNEYS WOULD PROBABLY TAKE IT OUT ANYWAY.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YEAH, FOLLOW UP FOR MS. ALGAR.
UM, BUT IF ONE WANTED TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT REQUIRED A CERTAIN MINIMUM NUMBER OF ACRES OF CONTIGUOUS TREE PRESERVATION AREA, THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE REDUNDANT.
ARE YOU GOOD COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN OR DID YOU HAVE, I THOUGHT YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.
ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE QUESTIONS ON CASE NUMBER NINE? ALRIGHT, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. GARZA AND I GUESS WE'RE GOING RIGHT BACK TO YOU ON CASE NUMBER 10 Z 2 4 5 24.
THERE REQUESTS AN APPLICATION FOR AN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE AND A AGRICULTURE DISTRICT WITH DE RESTRICTIONS Z 8 4 5 3 72.
IT IS LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF HAYMARKET ROAD, SOUTHEAST OF SOUTH ST.
THE LOCATION MAP, THE AERIAL MAP ZONING MAP SURROUNDING USES ARE UNDEVELOPED TOWARDS THE NORTHEAST AND WEST AND SINGLE FAMILY AND UNDEVELOPED TOWARDS THE SOUTH.
THE AREA QUIZ IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND ZONED IN AA AGRICULTURE DISTRICT WITH THE RESTRICTIONS.
THE PROPERTIES WITHIN TRACK TWO A OF THE D RESTRICTIONS.
THEREFORE ONLY RESTRICTIONS ONE IN SIX APPLY TO THE SITE RESTRICTION.
ONE RE RESTRICTS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DOLING UNITS TO 1,375 FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS COMBINED.
ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 465 DOLING UNITS OR LAWS APPROVED BY PRELIMINARY PLATS AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES APPROXIMATELY 45 UNITS WITHIN THIS SIDE, WHICH WILL NOT EXCEED THE 1,375 UNIT RESTRICTION.
ALL OF THE DEFINITIONS OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE AS AMENDED ARE INCORPORATED INTO THE DOCUMENT AS IF RECITED HER IN.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEVELOP A SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE AN EXTENSION OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAT ADJACENT TO THE SIDE TO THE NORTHEAST.
THE PROPOSED SINGLE FAMILY DEALING INCLUDES 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOSS.
THE EXISTING AA UM, AGRICULTURE DISTRICT ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY, HOWEVER, THE MINIMUM LOSS SIZE IS THREE ACRES ON MARCH 20 OF THIS YEAR.
CITY PLAN COMMISSION HELD ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT TO THIS MEETING.
NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE TO THEIR REQUEST SINCE THE LAST HEARING.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE SITE PHOTOS ON HAYMARKET ROAD, LOOKING NORTH.
LOOKING NORTH, AGAIN, LOOKING NORTH SURROUNDING USES ON HAYMARKET ROAD LOOKING NORTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTHWEST, LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING SOUTHEAST DYLAN STANDARDS, UM, DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING AGRICULTURE DISTRICT AND THE R FIVE A DISTRICT.
THE HOUSE MENTALITY RESTRICTIONS, SOUTHLAND RESTRICTIONS NUMBER ONE APPLIES SINCE SOCIETY IS UNDER TRACK TWO TWO A.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE RESTRICTION LIMITS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DRILLING UNITS FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS COMBINED UNDER THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
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UM, AN IMAGE OF THE ACTUAL DEED RESTRICTIONS AND IT, THEY ARE TO REMAIN.OUR RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
UH, QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
SO THIS IS TO ADD 45 NEW LOTS, 5,000 SQUARE FEET? YES, MINIMUM.
UM, IT SAYS HERE, AND I'M SORRY IF I MISSED IT, UM, THAT THERE ARE ABOUT 465 LOTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLANTED.
DO YOU KNOW IF THOSE ARE OUR FIVE LOTS, 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT.
UM, THEY ARE, THEY, THEY RANGE FROM R SEVEN FIVE A TO, UM, R FIVE.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN? UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
WELL, I HAVE A COMMENT AND A QUESTION.
I, I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE, THE APPLICANT.
SO, UH, THESE LOTS, UH, WILL CHANGE FROM R FIVES TO R SEVEN FIVES TO BE MORE CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THE AREA, UH, WHICH IS CUSTOMARY TO HAVE LARGER LOTS IN THIS AREA AS BEING PART OF THE, THE PLACE TYPE SMALL TOWN RESIDENTIAL.
UH, BUT THERE I DID HAVE AN OUTSTANDING QUESTION TO YOU AROUND THE SAFETY CONCERNS.
UH, THAT FOR, FOR TRAFFIC, IF YOU, UH, GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE STREETS THERE ON, UH, HAY MARKET, UH, WHERE THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE, UH, YOU WOULD NOTICE THAT, UH, THE LANES ARE PRETTY CURVY AND, UM, THEY'RE NOT VERY WIDE FOR THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THIS AREA.
THERE'S, UH, GONNA BE SOMETHING LESS THAN 40 LOTS FOR THIS AREA, BUT IT'S A PART OF A, A LARGER, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE QUESTION I HAD FOR YOU, UH, BECAUSE PART OF THE CASE REPORT, IT SAYS THAT THE ENGINEERING TEAM HAS REVIEWED IT, BUT IT DIDN'T AFFIRMATIVELY SAY WHAT, UM, UH, WHAT THEIR ANALYSIS WAS TO COME TO THIS CONCLUSION THAT IT'S OF NO SAFETY CONCERNS, UH, FOR THIS AREA.
UH, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO, TO CONTACT MR. I THINK IT'S NAVARRO, UH, DAVID, COULD YOU? YES.
GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONER DAVID NAVARRO, TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND ENGINEERING.
UM, SO, UH, SO MY, MY QUESTION IS, UH, BASED ON YOUR STUDY AND THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE HERE, UH, WITH THIS ROAD, BE ABLE TO SAFELY ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL HOMES THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THIS AREA.
UH, AS BEFORE CONTEXT, AS YOU CAN SEE ME, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS THERE.
AND, UH, THE RESIDENTS HAVE COMPLAINED 'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE IN, IN CERTAIN AREAS ON THIS ROAD THAT IT WILL BE, UH, A SAFETY CONCERN, ESPECIALLY FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO WILL LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT ONTO THIS ROAD.
AND, UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE ANALYSIS WAS THERE FOR YOU TO APPROVE THIS AS A, A SAFETY THAT IT'S HAS THE SAFEGUARDS THAT'S NECESSARY.
WELL, WE'VE SEEN THIS REQUEST BEFORE IN, IN FACT, WE ARE ALSO CURRENTLY REVIEWING, AND I FORGOT THE NUMBERS.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS JUST IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH.
THE DEVELOPMENT IS PROCEEDING BY RIGHT, AND THEY'RE, THEY ARE DEVELOPING THE 7.5 HOMES AND THE R 7.5 HOMES.
UM, NO, THE ROAD ISN'T QUITE ADEQUATE FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT, THAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING.
UM, THERE IS A NEED TO REPAVE RESURFACE HAY MARKET.
UM, AND LIKEWISE THERE'S A RESPONSIBILITY, UM, A REQUIREMENT TO UPGRADE THE ROAD UP TO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
IT'S HALF OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
WHEN WE MET WITH PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC WORKS DID NOT ACCEPT THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE WE CAN'T, IN AS MUCH AS THEY'D BE DOING EVERYTHING ALONG THEIR PROPERTY, UH, OR THEIR SUBDIVISION, UM, PUBLIC WORKS DID NOT ACCEPT THIS PIECE PIECEMEAL APPROACH.
THEY DIDN'T WANT, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS OF BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD, THEY, THERE WAS JUST NO WAY TO TERMINATE THE IMPROVEMENT.
AND SO INSTEAD OF, UH, THEIR, THEM DOING THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE ROAD AS THEY'RE REQUIRED BY PLOTTING REGULATIONS, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE, WE'RE,
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THEY WE'RE ASKING THEM TO CONSTRUCT A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THEIR, TO BOTH STREETS.AND PLEASE, EXCUSE ME, I'M STRICTLY REFERRING TO THE PROJECT THAT IS UNDER REVIEW PERMITTED BY RIDE.
MY ANSWER THOUGH IS GIVING YOU A TASTE OF WHAT WE'LL BE DOING IF AND WHEN THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD THROUGH YOUR APPROVAL.
WHEN WE, WHEN THEY COME TO OUR REVIEW, THEN WE'LL BE ASKING THEM TO, NUMBER ONE, UM, IMPROVE LIGHTING, UH, ALONG HAY MARKET.
AND THEN ALSO SEEING THE POSSIBILITY OF THEM CONSTRUCTING, WIDENING THE ROAD TO CONSTRUCT A RIGHT TURN LANE AND IT, AND A DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT VEHICLES DON'T BACK UP OR THAT BE BECAUSE OF THE SPEEDS OF THE TRAFFIC.
THAT THEY DON'T, THAT, THAT NO ONE REAR ENDS A VEHICLES AS THEY'RE COMING TO US SLOWING DOWN TO ENTER INTO THEIR SUBDIVISION.
SO, UH, THE, THE PROJECT TO THE NORTH IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THIS REQUEST, BUT WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE SAME, UH, LINE OF THOUGHT IN OUR REVIEW VIEW.
I, I DO KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT PERFORMED A TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, FOR THIS AREA.
UM, UH, DID YOU, UH, REVIEW AND ANALYZE THAT REPORT THAT, THAT THAT WAS THE STUDY THAT THEY PREPARED BACK IN, UM, 2022, I THINK, OR 2023? UH, WE'LL BE ASKING FOR A NEW STUDY WHEN, WHEN THEY COME IN THROUGH ENGINEERING.
WE DIDN'T REQUEST ONE WITH THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE IT'S A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.
WE DON'T HAVE A SIDE PLAN TO REVIEW, AND THEREFORE WE NORMALLY DON'T REQUEST TRAFFIC STUDIES WHEN THERE'S A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO SIDE PLAN TO EVALUATE.
UM, AND IF THEY PROVIDED YOU ONE, IT WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULDN'T BE, THEY, THEY WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO IT.
SO, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HALL, MR. NEVAREZ, WHO, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FUNDING THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT ROAD AND LIGHTING, ET CETERA.
SO AT THIS POINT, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC FUNDS AVAILABLE TO IMPROVE HAY MARKET.
UM, WE HAD MANY MEETINGS THROUGHOUT YOUR PREVIOUS ROUND OF REVIEWS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THE ZONING, THE PREVIOUS ZONING CHANGE.
WHAT WHAT WE ARE ASKING THE DEVELOPERS INDIVIDUALLY AS THEY, AS THEY BUILD EACH SUBDIVISION, IS THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO IMPROVE THE LIGHTING, BUT IT'S LIMITED TO WHERE WE FIND THE NEED SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT.
AND SO IT WOULD NOT AFFECT OR IMPROVE ANY THE ROAD AS THEY MOVE FORWARD NORTH AS, AS YOU CONTINUE NORTH TOWARD THE FREEWAY.
SO IT WOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC TO THE, PRIMARILY THE, THE, THE, THE, THE ACCESS, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE NEW INTERSECTIONS WHERE THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING STREETS.
SO BASICALLY THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THIS JUST ALONG THEIR PROPERTY BOUNDARY OR SOMETHING WITHIN, WITHIN, WITHIN THEIR SUBDIVISION.
AND ALSO AS THEY INTERSECT WITH HAY MARKET, THERE'S NOTHING NEW ABOUT ALLOWING HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT WHERE THE ROADS ARE INSUFFICIENT TO HANDLE THOSE.
I MEAN, WE SEE THAT IN THE SUBURBS A LOT, DON'T WE? BUT YEAH, IT, THE, THE COST IS JUST PROHIBITIVE AND WOULD NOT ALLOW US IT, I MEAN, I, I GET INTO ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, I WOULD DEFER TO OUR COUNCIL FOR THAT.
BUT, UM, WE, WE'VE, WE HAD, WE HELD MEETINGS WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND PREVIOUS DEVELOPERS AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.
UM, IT'S AT A TONE OF $2 MILLION PER LANE, PER MILE.
UM, AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE LANES HERE AND MORE THAN A MILE.
SO IT EITHER WE BUILD THE ROAD OR WE, OR THE DEVELOPER BUILDS HOUSES.
SO THERE'S JUST NO, NO, NO MECHANISM FOR THE CITY TO IMPOSE OR REQUIRE THAT FROM THE DEVELOPER.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN FACT FEES.
UH, MS. GARZA, MAY I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS, IT, IT APPEARS THIS IS MOSTLY VACANT LAND? YES.
UH, THERE IS A STRUCTURE ON IT.
DI DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GO TO, TO THIS.
I, I WAS ONLY ABLE TO GO TOWARDS THE GATE.
'CAUSE THERE, THERE WAS A GATE AND LIKE A ROAD, BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO GO INTO AND SEE IF THERE, THERE WAS AN ACTUAL STRUCTURE STILL THERE.
UH, SO THE, THE OPENING TO THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE ON HAYMARKET ROAD, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT I AM AWARE.
I BELIEVE THE, THE APPLICANT DID SEND A P PRELIMINARY PLOT, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S STILL,
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UH, CURRENT.I'M NOT SURE IF, 'CAUSE I KNOW THEY MENTIONED THAT THEY ARE, THIS PARCEL IS GOING TO BE ALIGNED TO TOWARDS THE NORTH, UM, NORTHEAST A SUBDIVISION.
'CAUSE THEY ALREADY, THEY ARE, THEY ALREADY HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLA THERE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW IT'S ALIGNING TO THAT.
AND A, A FOLLOW UP FOR THE, THE, THE ENGINEER, BECAUSE WE, WE'VE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING ON THIS AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I ARTICULATE, UH, WHAT YOU JUST SAID TO US IN TERMS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HERE.
UH, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY FUNDING, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE ANY FUNDING ALLOCATED AT THIS TIME TO, UH, WIDEN THE ROAD ON HAYMARKET IN WHICH THE NEW RESIDENTS WILL BE ENTERING INTO THE DE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
NOT JUST WIDENING, BUT RESURFACING THE PROJECT.
THERE ARE NO CURRENT FUNDS AVAILABLE OR PLANNED, DEVOTED TO THE IMPROVEMENTS OF HAY MARKET CHICKEN AND THE EGG.
WE, WE, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
IT'S, IT'S DEJA VU, YOU KNOW, DO WE, DOES, DOES THE CITY PROVIDE FUNDS AND ALLOCATE BONDS, PROGRAM BOND PROGRAMS FOR IMPROVEMENT OF ROADS TO BRING DEVELOPMENTS OR, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR CALL.
OR DO WE ALLOW DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER TO, UM, EXPEDITE OR BRING UP THE NEED ON THIS ROADS? UH, UNDERSTOOD.
AND AND TO WHAT POINT IS THE APPLICANT RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPROVEMENT? OKAY.
UH, SO THE, THE PLATING REGULATIONS REQUIRE THE, WILL REQUIRE THE APPLICANT SPECIFICALLY AT THIS LOCATION TO IMPROVE HAY MARKET ALONG, ALONG THE PORTION OF THEIR PLANT.
IF THEY EXCEED A THOUSAND FEET ALONG THIS THOROUGHFARE, UH, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE HALF OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN DIMENSIONS.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A FOUR-LANE ROAD THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO BUILD A TWO LANE ROAD FROM THE ESTABLISHED CENTER LINE INTO THEIR SUBDIVISION.
UH, THAT INCLUDES PAVEMENT, CURB AND GUTTER SIDEWALKS, UM, INTERSECTIONS.
AND CAN YOU GO TO THE, THE SITE PLAN OR WHATEVER YOU THINK WILL BE BEST TO ILLUSTRATE? UM, THERE'S A CAVEAT THERE, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, THAT THAT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
SO JUST AS MUCH AS IT WAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ANOTHER DEVELOPER JUST IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT IN COORDINATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS, AS WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THE DESIGN OF THAT SECTION OF ROAD PUBLIC WORKS ENDED UP SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN'T, WE, WE CAN'T TAKE THEIR, WE, WE, WE CAN'T TAKE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING OUT A WAY TO DOCUMENT OUR REVIEW AND EXPLAINED THAT PUBLIC WORKS SIMPLY DID NOT ALLOW US TO COMPLY WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE WE, WE CAN'T JUST FIX A ROAD FOR, FOR A THOUSAND FEET AND THEN LEFT EVERYTHING ELSE.
UM, THERE, THERE'S, UM, DRAINAGE THAT WOULD EXCEED JUST THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
AND SO THE SOLUTION IS WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE LEAVING THE ROAD.
THE SOLUTION WILL BE, I'M USING ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE.
THE SOLUTION WILL BE, WE'LL LEAVE THE ROAD AS IS AND WE'LL, UM, FIGURE OUT A, A COORDINATION WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY AGREE THIS IS A VOLUNTEERED IMPROVEMENT.
HOPEFULLY THEY, WE CAN MAKE THEM AGREE TO AN IMPROVEMENT AT THEIR INTERSECTION.
AND BY THE WAY, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION, SO THE, THIS WILL BE A SUBDIVISION BECAUSE OF THE LOT SIZES, THERE WILL NEED TO BE AT LEAST ONE STREET THAT CONNECTS INTO HAYMARKET, A PUBLIC STREET LEADING INTO THE SUBDIVISION AND BREAKING IT DOWN INTO HOMES.
WERE YOU GONNA SHOW SIGN? I DON'T, THERE'S A SITE PLAN IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY PREPARED IN 2022.
UM, THAT MIGHT BE, UM, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO VISUALIZE, HELP YOU VISUALIZE.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE, UH, FROM THAT BLUE LINE, A LONG HAY MARKET IS WHAT THEY WILL BE VOLUNTEERING FROM WHAT I HEARD YOU SAYING TO NO SIR.
THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE IF THAT BLUE LINE ALONG HAY MARKET EXCEEDS 1000 FEET, IT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO, UM, IMPROVE THE ROAD, IN THIS CASE SPECIFIC THE AT HAY MAR ON HAY MARKET TO INCLUDE A TWO LANE CURB GUTTER SIDEWALK.
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BASED ON PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE ON A SIMILAR PROJECT IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH ISH.IT GOES AROUND, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DID NOT ACCEPT THE REQUIREMENTS THAT, AND THEREFORE WE ARE LETTING THAT DEVELOPER GO WITHOUT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS IN EXCHANGE FOR THEM IMPROVING, UM, ACCESS TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A RIGHT TURN LANE AND ADEQUATE LIGHTING.
YOU MENTIONED A CHICKEN AND EGG ISSUE, MR. YES.
NEVAREZ, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT REAL QUICK? I'M SORRY IF I, I I MEAN I FRANKLY, IN MY OPINION, IT THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE REVIEWING, UM, AND ALLOWING US TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT OF LAND, UM, WHERE THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE.
I THINK THE QUESTION BEFORE WAS, IS THERE SUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE? UM, NO.
IF WE'RE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO, UH, DRAINAGE, UM, WATER AND WASTE WATER, WE WILL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THERE'S ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE LIGHTING AND, AND ALL OTHER UTILITIES SPECIFICALLY ON PAVING AND DRAINAGE.
THE ROAD IS SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH TO HANDLE ANY DEVELOPMENT AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND SO YOU MAY CONTACT YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A IMPROVEMENTS ON HAYMARKET IN ORDER TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT, OR WE FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE RESIDENTS, THEN BRING IT UP TO THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER TO SEE, LOOK AT THE ROADS THAT YOU ALLOWED TO DEVELOP.
SO THAT, THAT'S MY, UH, UH, AN OPINION.
SIR, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HALL, ONE FINAL QUESTION.
IF THEY WENT TO BIGGER LOTS AND FEWER HOUSES, MR. NAVAREZ, WOULD THAT CHANGE ANYTHING? CAN YOU, SO IF THEY WENT WITH BIGGER LOTS, BIGGER LOTS AND, AND SO INSTEAD OF R FIVE AND 20 HOMES AND, YOU KNOW, NO, I, I I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN MATHEMATICALLY CALCULATE A NUMBER THAT WOULD GIVE YOU A MORE, UH, A BETTER SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, PIECE A FULL DECISION.
UM, I THINK R FIVE IS NO DIFFERENT THAN R SEVEN FIVE IN MY OPINION, AT THIS LOCATION THERE, UH, THE DENSITY IS GOING FROM ZERO TO, TO, TO WHATEVER.
SO WHETHER IT WAS ONE ACRE LOTS OR FRANKLY, I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN AMOUNT THAT WOULD HELP YOU MAKE A DECISION BETWEEN THE DENSITY AT THIS LOCATION.
BUT BASICALLY WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE ROAD DOESN'T, IS INSUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S, IT SOUNDS VERY HARSH, BUT YES SIR.
YOU'LL BE THE FIRST ONE CALLING YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THE ROAD IS JUST NOT IN CONDITIONS TO HABITAT.
WE MIGHT, IT, UH, WE MIGHT MAKE A ZONING CHANGE AND THEY GET TO PERMITTING OR WHATEVER AND SAY, NOPE, CAN'T DO IT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FORSYTH.
SO HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND THE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES THAT ARE, UH, SURROUND THIS.
ARE THEY, UH, ALREADY BEING DEVELOPED, UH, BY RIGHT.
UH, HAS, UH, R 75 ZONING OR IS, OR IS THAT AA DISTRICT AS WELL? SO TOWARDS THE EAST, UM, THAT IS R 75 A AND THEY DO ALREADY HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLA IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPER THAT'S BUILDING THIS PROJECT.
IF I MAY ADD, WE WE'RE CURRENTLY, THEY HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLA AND WE'RE CURRENTLY REVIEWING ENGINEERING PLANS FOR THEIR SUBDIVISION AS PERMITTED BY RIGHT, BUT THAT'S GONNA BE R SEVEN FIVE.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, WHEN HE WAS ASKING HIS QUESTIONS EARLIER, SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THEY HAD INDICATED WILLINGNESS TO MAKE THIS R SEVEN FIVE AS WELL.
AS OF YESTERDAY, THEY SAID THEY WILL AMEND IT TO BE R 70 FIVES.
SO THEN WOULDN'T THAT MEAN THAT WE WOULD NEED TO PUT THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT AND COME BACK TO IT, UH, ONCE THERE'S BEEN A, A CHANGE IN ZONING? I DON'T BELIEVE SO, BUT I WILL, UM, EXCEPT THE NATURE OF THE CHANGE, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO MS. MORRISON ON THAT QUESTION SINCE IT'S A LESS INTENSE OKAY.
YES, WE CAN DO, UM, YOU CAN CONSIDER A DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICT THAN WHAT WAS ADVERTISED.
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FROM RESIDENTIAL TO NON-RESIDENTIAL.VICE VERSA, INCREASE THE HEIGHT OR, UM, INCREASE THE DENSITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A LOWER DENSITY TO GO FROM R FIVE, WHICH WAS WHAT WAS IN THE, IN THE MAILED NOTICES AND IN THE PAPER.
AND IF WE WANTED TO CONSIDER A LESS DENSE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT THAT IS ALLOWABLE WITHOUT RE NOTICING.
SO, SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF COMMISSIONER, UH, FRANKLIN MAKING A, AN AMENDMENT, UH, WHEN HE MAKES HIS MOTION TO, TO, TO REZONE THIS, TO R SEVEN FIVE AND WE COULD DO THAT WITHOUT RE-ADVERTISING.
IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN COULD MAKE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER MOTION HE WANTS TO MAKE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT MS. MAY SAID WITHOUT HAVING TO RE ADVERTISE.
AND I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION OF, OF COURSE, GO AHEAD.
I I, IS THERE ANY IMPACT WITH THE ARTICLE 10 TREE ORDINANCE, UH, ON THIS, UH, WITH ALL THE TREES THAT ARE ON THE, WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE EASTERN SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY? SO THIS IS A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.
UH, SO AT, UH, WHEN IT STARTS DEVELOPING, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH, THROUGH ALL OF THAT, UM, THROUGH THE TREE MITIGATION IF IT IS REQUIRED.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, MR. NAVAREZ, I JUST, I'M THINK I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY YOUR REMARKS.
ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THIS COMMISSION DENY THIS CASE BECAUSE OF THE STREET CONDITIONS? TH THANK YOU, SIR, FOR ALLOWING ME TO CLARIFY THERE.
I HAVE NO RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS, UM, WHETHER THIS NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT.
UM, WE WILL WORK WITH A DEVELOPMENT TEAM AS, UM, THIS GETS APPROVED, HOWEVER IT GETS APPROVED OR, UM, I'M, I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE ROAD IS JUST NOT QUITE READY FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE AGRICULTURAL LAND, BUT THIS LOCATION, SO, OKAY.
AND YOU, AND OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUES' ASSESSMENT.
AND YOU TELL US THAT, UM, THERE IS A REC BASED ON THE LENGTH OF FRONTAGE, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT TO UPGRADE THE STREET, BUT PUBLIC WORKS HAS, IS NOT GONNA ENFORCE THAT REQUIREMENT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE PARTICULAR CONDITIONS HERE, WHATEVER IS THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, YES, SIR.
I SEE YOUR HAND GOING FOR THE MICROPHONE.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DID YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, I, I, I, I'M THINK I, I, I'M HOPING I'M NOT CONFUSED.
ARE WE SAYING THAT ARE, ARE YOU, YOU ALL SAYING THAT BECAUSE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT IN PLACE AND THERE'S NO BUDGETING THAT THE RE THAT THERE IS MORE OF A RECOMMENDATION NOT TO ALLOW FOR, UH, UM, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TO BE APPROVED WHEN, WHEN THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN BEGGING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE TO THAT THEY NEED MORE, YOU SAID IN THE PAST THAT THEY NEED MORE, UM, ROOFTOPS AND NOW YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT'S TRYING TO PUT ROOFTOPS IN AND, AND BECAUSE THE CITY IS BEHIND, WE'RE GOING TO SOME KIND OF WAY PUNISH THE DEVELOPER.
I DON'T BELIEVE, UM, WHAT, UH, DAVID WAS MENTIONING WAS THAT IT'S, IT'S EITHER, UM, THIS COMMISSION APPROVES FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN WILL THEN, UH, REQUEST TO, TO THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BUILD THIS IN THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR HAY MARKET OR WAIT, UH, FOR, UM, HAY MARKET TO BE BUILT AND THEN BRING IN DEVELOPERS.
IT'S EITHER WAY HOW IT'S, IT'S LOOKING, BECAUSE I BELIEVE PUBLIC WORKS, AS DAVID MENTIONED.
UM, THEY RIGHT NOW ARE NOT, UH, LOOKING INTO BEING REQUIRED, THE REQUIREMENTS.
AGAIN, I, I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED ON THIS.
UH, YOU, SO HAVE YOU ALL NOT SAW THAT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY HAS CAME IN TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND ALREADY HAS REQUESTED THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND IT SEEMS TOTALLY UNFAIR FOR DEVELOPERS TO BE HAVING TO, THIS IS LIKE THE CITY WORKING BEHIND ITSELF.
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THAT COVERS CASE NUMBER 10.I DON'T THINK THAT ONE HAS BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE, HAS IT? COMMISSIONER FORSYTH? IT HAS BEEN BRIEFED.
AND, UM, I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, TO CONTINUE TO HOLD THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO REHEAR IT AT THIS POINT.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE, CAN YOU GET YOUR MICROPHONE ON? I DON'T KNOW.
UM, WHAT DATE ARE YOU GONNA HAVE IT HELD UNTIL, I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL MAY 22ND.
THAT SHOULD GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES WITH THE DEVELOPER IN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND THEN THAT BRINGS US TO CASE NUMBER 12, MR. BATE.
AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME CHANGES ON THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE.
I APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE, EVERYONE.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 10 65 ON PROPERTY ZONE PD 10 65 ON THE SOUTH LINE OF WEST MOCKINGBIRD LANE, EAST OF ELMBROOK DRIVE, ABOUT 32.2 ACRES IN SIZE.
UH, WE'RE HERE KIND OF NORTHWESTERN AREA OF THE CITY, UH, JUST ALONG THAT MOCKINGBIRD CORRIDOR.
UH, THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE AREA OF REQUEST.
AND AS YOU SEE, THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS ON THIS SITE.
SO THE WEST IS A, UH, BUILDING THAT I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW IS BEING PLANNED TO BE REBUILT, UM, OR RETOOLED AS A WAREHOUSE.
AND THEN TO THE EAST IS, UH, REALLY THE FOCUS OF THIS BUIL OR OF THIS REQUEST, UH, A BUILDING THAT WILL BE USED FOR COMMUNICATIONS EXCHANGE FACILITY.
THIS IS THE ZONING MAP WITH THE AREA.
AS YOU SEE, IT'S A MIX OF MU IR UM, KIND OF TYPICAL OF THIS AREA, YOU HAVE A MIX OF WAREHOUSES, OR MANY WAREHOUSES, I SHOULD SAY OFFICES, MORE OFFICES IMMEDIATELY.
UH, THERE'S A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE, UH, ACTUALLY A SHOOTING RANGE.
THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THOSE TWO LARGE BUILDINGS, AND THE APPLICANT DOESN'T INTEND TO BUILD THE, WHAT'S CALLED THE COMMUNICATIONS EXCHANGE FACILITY MORE ACCURATELY.
FOR LAYMAN'S TERMS, IT'S A DATA CENTER.
UH, THEY PROPOSE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND LANDSCAPING FOR THE USE.
AND AS SUCH, THEY'RE REQUESTING AMENDING THE PD.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW SOME PHOTOS JUST GOING ALONG MOCKINGBIRD, UH, SHOWING THE SITE IN GENERAL AND GOING ALONG AND JUST, JUST LOOKING SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE SITE AND THERE'S A LARGE AMOUNT OF BUFFERING, SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE SEE ALONG MOCKINGBIRD TO THE NORTH AND NORTHWEST.
LOOKING AGAIN AT THE SITE AS WE HEAD FURTHER DOWN EAST AND JUST CONTINUING ALONG TOWARDS THAT INTERSECTION.
ALRIGHT, SO THE, UH, APPLICANT DID PROVIDE SOME UPDATED CONDITIONS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, UH, SINCE THE DOCKET WAS PUBLISHED.
UH, TO BEGIN WITH, THEY ARE PROPOSING A PARKING RATIO THAT WOULD BE AT ONE SPACE PER 5,500 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA FOR THE ENTIRE FACILITY, UH, REGARDLESS OF THE BREAKDOWN.
SO THE STANDARD FOR COMMUNICATIONS EXCHANGE FACILITIES IS THAT THERE'S ONE SPACE PER 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA FOR THE BUILDING OVERALL.
BUT THEN FOR ANY OF THE OFFICE FLOOR AREA, IT GOES TO THAT ONE PER 333 THAT WE SEE FOR NORMAL OFFICES.
THEY PROPOSED THAT THE LOADING AMONG UNLOADING OF TRAILERS
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MUST BE CONCEALED FROM MOCKINGBIRD BY A MINIMUM EIGHT FOOT HIGH SOLID SCREENING WALL.THE LANDSCAPING CHANGES, UH, THOSE WERE IN THE REPORT.
UH, THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT WERE PROPOSED SINCE THEN, AND SO I'LL ACTUALLY JUST GET TO THOSE INSTEAD.
UH, SO SINCE THE PUBLICATION OF THE DOCKET, THERE WERE SOME CHANGES ALONG MOCKINGBIRD.
THE AVERAGE DEPTH FOR THE BUFFER WOULD BE 40 FEET RATHER THAN 10 FEET.
IT WOULD REMOVE THE OPTION FOR TWO SMALL TREES IN LIEU OF THE LARGER TREES.
SO IT WOULD REQUIRE THE LARGER TREES, UH, ALONG HINTON STREET.
THERE WAS JUST A SMALL CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE THAT RATHER THAN, UM, WHAT IS IT WHERE ALLOWED FOR SMALL TREE, INSTEAD, IT'S WHERE REQUIRED FOR SMALL TREES.
UH, AND THEN IN THE INTERIOR ZONE, PREVIOUSLY IT WAS SAYING THAT NO INTERIOR TREES WERE REQUIRED.
NOW IT WILL REQUIRE ONE TREE FOR EVERY 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF, UM, LAND AREA.
UH, ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE SOME DESIGN STANDARDS THAT EXIST WITHIN THE PD THAT REQUIRE, UH, DIFFERENT, UM, WHAT IS IT? JUST DIFFERENT DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT IMPROVE THE FACADE.
UH, ONE OF THOSE IS FOR GLAZING.
SO THE CHANGES TO THE P OR THE CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS INCORPORATE THE COMMUNICATIONS EXCHANGE FACILITY INTO THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
IT WOULD ONLY APPLY ALONG THE MOCKINGBIRD FRONTAGE.
AND ONE DEVIATION FROM THOSE STANDARDS IS THAT RATHER THAN 30% OF WINDOW GLAZING, UH, IT IS ONLY 20%.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS, UH, WE DO OUR ONLY DEVIATION FROM WHAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTS IS WE RECOMMEND NO MINIMUM PARKING FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS EXCHANGE FACILITY.
UH, THERE'S A VERY LARGE AMOUNT OF PARKING ALREADY AVAILABLE ON SITE, I THINK NORTH OF 200 SPACES.
UH, AS MENTIONED IN THE REPORT, THE APPLICANT DID PERFORM A STUDY THAT WAS SORT OF BASED ON OBSERVATIONS AT A SMALLER, UH, DATA CENTER AND DID REALLY JUST A LINEAR EXTRAPOLATION FROM THAT SAYING, WELL, IF THERE'S, WHAT IS IT? LET'S SAY A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY AND THERE WERE EIGHT CARS PARKED THERE, IF IT'S A VERY LARGE FACILITY 10 TIMES THAT YOU MUST NEED 10 TIMES THE SPACE, UH, BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, MR. NAVAREZ WOULD NOT SURE THAT THAT LINEARITY LINEAR RELATIONSHIP ACTUALLY EXISTS.
UM, AS WE ALL KNOW WITH TECHNOLOGY, GENERALLY, YOU CAN SCALE UP PRETTY BIG AND STILL HAVE ONE GUY THAT CAN MANAGE A WHOLE BUNCH OF SERVERS.
UM, SO THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THAT BY REMOVING THE PARKING REQUIREMENT, THEY WOULDN'T BE UNDER PARKED.
THERE'S, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CHANCE THAT THEY WOULD UNDER PARK A USE LIKE THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S A DATA CENTER.
IT'S MEANT FOR HAVING OFFICES FOR PEOPLE TO GO THERE AND WORK WITH THE SERVERS.
UH, ADDITIONALLY REMOVING THAT PARKING RATIO WOULD ALLOW SOME OF THAT EXCESS PARKING TO BE REPURPOSED EITHER INTO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE, ADDITIONAL USES TO BETTER, UH, BETTER UTILIZE THE SITE OVERALL.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UM, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. BATE, UH, QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? NONE, COLLEAGUES? NONE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. BATE.
UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO, UM, THE HAMPTON CLARENDON AUTHORIZED HEARING.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN BRIEF, BUT DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. PORSCHE? ALRIGHT.
UM, SEEING NONE, THAT BRINGS US TO OUR DEAUTHORIZATION OF A HEARING.
DOES ANYONE NEED THAT BRIEFED OR, OR HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT? YOU'RE GOOD.
MR. PORSCHE? I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAD FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
OH, OH, FOR THE DEAUTHORIZATION? GREAT.
UH, ARE WE ABLE TO DO A QUICK BRIEFING ON THE DEAUTHORIZATION? WELL, THE PROJECT LEAD IS, UH, HAD A QUICK APPOINTMENT.
UM, SO COULD WE CALL IT AFTER THE NEXT ITEM? WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? THIS, THIS IS OUR LAST ITEM.
ARE YOU OKAY HAVING THIS BRIEF THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS AFTERNOON? COMMISSIONER FORSYTH.
OR IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT, I CAN ANSWER THOSE.
SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? COMMISSIONER FORSYTH? UH, YOU, YOU WOULD LIKE A BRIEF? OKAY.
I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE TAKEN UP AT THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS AFTERNOON.
THE ONLY QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU LIKE IT BRIEFED NOW OR LATER ON IN THE DAY? CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? COMMISSIONER FORSYTH? DOES THAT MEAN THE SAME BRIEFING WILL BE HELD TWICE? I DON'T WANT, 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA WASTE THE HEARING, THE TIME OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
WELL, IT, IT'S, I MEAN, IF YOU'D LIKE IT BRIEFED, WE CAN BRIEF IT.
WE CAN BRIEF IT NOW, WHICH WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT A FEW MINUTES OR WE CAN BRIEF IT THIS AFTERNOON
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WHEN WE TAKE UP THE ITEM.SO IT'S, IT'S YOUR CHOICE IF YOU'D LIKE IT.
NOW WE CAN TAKE A BRIEF BREAK AND WAIT FOR MR. PORSCHE, OR I'M SORRY, MR. OKA TO I I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER THAT.
THEN, UH, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK RIGHT NOW.
ARE WE READY TO GET BACK ON THE RECORD TO WRAP UP OUR BRIEFING? ALRIGHT.
ALRIGHT, IT IS 11:10 AM AND WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD FOR THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, MR. OK.
UH, NEXT CASE IS CASE NUMBER Z 180 9 DASH 1 43.
SO THE REQUEST IS TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND TO JUST GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS CASE.
IT WAS AUTHORIZED ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2018.
AND THIS AN AUTHORIZED HEARING TO DETERMINE PROPER ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARD ON PROPERTIES ZONE CR COMMUNITY DETAIL WITH A PORTION IN A DRY OVERLAY DISTRICT.
THE AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 2.13 ACRES.
UH, THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS AGAIN, THE PARCELS.
THERE ARE, UH, INSIDE THE AUTHORIZED HEARING AREA THERE, SEVEN PROPERTIES, NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, JUST SOME AREAS OF THE AREA.
THE FIRST PHOTO TO THE LEFT IS LOOKING NORTH.
UH, THE SECOND ONE IS LOOKING EAST.
AND THE ONE TO THE RIGHT LOWER IS, UH, LOOKING NORTH AGAIN.
SO I WANTED TO ALSO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE THE CASE WAS AUTHORIZED.
UH, WE STARTED WITH THE RESEARCH AS WITH ANY USUAL, UM, AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
WE DID A KICKOFF MEETING ON APRIL THE 25TH.
THEN ON JUNE 27TH, WE HAD OUR FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY GEARED TOWARDS THIS AUTHOR HEARING.
AND THAT MEETING WAS HELD AT ADMISSIONS IFF.
AND THEN WE DID A SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, AT WINNETKA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON SEPTEMBER THE FIFTH.
AND THAT MEETING FOCUSED ON, UH, LOOKING AT THE ZONING, THE PROPOSAL THE STAFF WAS MAKING.
AND THEN WE DID HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING, BUT THIS ONE WAS SPECIFICALLY TARGETED AT COMMUNITY LEADERS.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THE PRESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT, UM, BORDER THE AUTHORIZED SHARING AREAS, THE ARE FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
SO WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM BECAUSE IN THE FIRST MEETING WHEN WE INTRODUCED OUR ZONING PROPOSALS, UH, WE DIDN'T GET IN, UH, A LOT OF SUPPORT.
AND SO WE WANTED TO BUILD CONSENSUS BY FIRST TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY LEADERS.
AND WE TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING AND TRYING TO SEE IF THEY CAN GO BACK AND TALK TO THEIR RESIDENTS TO TRY TO BUILD CONSENSUS.
THEN WE HAD A FOLLOW-UP MEETING ON OCTOBER THE SECOND.
THAT WAS THE FOURTH COMMUNITY MEETING.
AND AGAIN, ON THAT MEETING, WE DID TRY TO BUILD CONSENSUS AROUND THE ZONING PROPOSAL THAT STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING.
AND AGAIN, UH, WE'VE, AFTER THAT MEETING, WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THERE WAS A ADEQUATE SUPPORT.
SO STAFF AT THIS TIME STARTED CONSIDERING TERMINATING THE AUTHORIZED HEARING.
AND WE ARE HERE TODAY, UH, TO SEE IF WE CAN CONSIDER, UH, UM, THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
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BACKGROUND INFORMATION, AGAIN, THIS WAS PART OF THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE WEST OAKLEY AREA PLAN.I DID IDENTIFY FIVE AREAS THAT IS SPECIFICALLY CALLED FOR EITHER SOME LAND USE RECOMMENDATION OR SPECIFIC ZONING RECOMMENDATION FOR THOSE AREAS, THREE OF THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND BEEN ADOPTED.
AND TWO OF THEM, ONE OF THEM IS BEFORE YOU AGAIN TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN THIS ONE IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF TERMINATION.
UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE STAFF DID RECOMMEND THE ZONING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED IN THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN.
UH, THE WAY WE APPROACHED THIS WAS TO IMPLEMENT AN EXISTING CITY ADOPTED POLICY PLAN.
AND THAT PLAN SPECIFICALLY CALLED FOR A FORM BASED ZONING FOR THE AREA, UH, TO ENCOURAGE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE MIX USE DEVELOPMENT.
IT ALSO DID RECOMMEND THAT WE DO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC ROOM AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT, AND THAT'S WHY STAFF DID RECOMMEND A FORM-BASED DISTRICT.
UH, I WANTED ALSO TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD FROM THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
UH, SO THE COMMUNITY RESIDENT TOLD US THAT THEY WANTED US TO ADDRESS PROTECTION OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY WANTED PRESERVATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND IDENTITY.
UH, THEY TOLD US THEY WERE REALLY NOT IN SUPPORT OF INTRODUCING ADUS AND MIDDLE MISSING HOUSING IN THIS AREA.
AND THERE WAS ALSO A LITTLE SUPPORT FOR MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THEY WANTED US TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT WERE IN THE AREA AND ALSO ADDRESS DISPLACEMENT AND GENTRIFICATION.
BUT THEY ALSO WANTED US TO ADDRESS WORKABILITY, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION.
AND THEN WE DID HAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE SCHOOL ABOUT TRAFFIC ISSUES.
AND WE DID ADDRESS THIS BY MAKING CONNECTION, REACHING OUT TO TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THAT, UH, HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE.
BECAUSE THIS FALLS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THE AUTHORIZED HEARING.
THIS IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP OF THE AREA.
UH, THE AREA OF REQUEST IS, UH, ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL.
IT'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT R 7.5 A AND R SEVEN, UH, FIVE A.
AND THERE IS A PD ACROSS FROM IT THAT'S A PD FOR A SCHOOL, INKA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND THE AREA MAINLY CONTAINS COMMERCIAL RETAIL BUILDING, VACANT OFFICE SPACES, RESIDENTIAL BUILDING, ONE AUTO REPAIR SHOP.
AND THERE IS A VACANT LOT THAT HAS BEEN BOUGHT AND IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF PACKING.
SO, LIKE I SAID, STAFF DISTRICT RECOMMEND FORM-BASED DISTRICT.
UH, THIS IS A ZONING DISTRICT WHERE THAT WE CONSIDER TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY ZONING BECAUSE IT ENSURES PREDICTABILITY OF THE OUTCOMES.
IT TRIES TO ADDRESS COMPATIBILITY OF THE BUILDINGS WITHIN, UH, WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH EACH OTHER WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
IT ALSO ENSURES FLEXIBILITY OF USES.
IT ALLOWS FOR MULTIPLE USES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AND IT IS ONLY ZONING DISTRICT IN A FORM BASED DISTRICT THAT ADDRESS DESIGN STANDARD URBAN DESIGN STANDARD, SO THAT OUR ZONING REALLY, WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT STREET DESIGNS AND STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THE FORM DISTRICTS IS THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.
AND THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN THE WORKUP PLAN.
SO THE REASON WHY WE DID RECOMMEND THAT, AGAIN, IS BECAUSE IT ALIGNS WITH WORKUP GOALS OF TRANSFORMING THE AREA INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE MIX USE CENTER THAT IS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
IT DOES ALLOW A VARIETY OF USES AND RESIDENTIAL USES, AND ALSO ADDRESSES URBAN DESIGN STANDARD TO ENSURE THE DESIRED URBAN FORM THAT THE PLAN CALLED FOR.
IT IS, WE DID GO FOR WMU THREE BECAUSE IT'S THE LOWEST INTENSITY OF THE SIX WALKABLE MIX USE DISTRICT, WHICH MAKES IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
UH, R 7.5 AND R FIVE POINT R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
THE PLAN DID CALL FOR ZONING TO LOOK AT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT.
SO WE DID WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
UH, FORTUNATELY ENOUGH, WHEN WE KICKED OFF THIS AUTHORIZED HEARING, TRANSPORTATION HAD ALREADY KICKED OFF, UH, UH, WITH, UH, CLARENDON TRANSPORTATION STUDY THAT WAS LOOKING AT SOME IMPROVEMENT ON THIS CORRIDOR.
SO WE DID PARTNER WITH THEM TO ADDRESS THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE OF THE REZONING.
MR. OTHA, CAN I, CAN I JUST STOP YOU FOR A SECOND TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY.
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A REQUEST TO DE AUTHORIZE THIS HEARING.SO I'M JUST GIVING SOME BACKGROUND ON WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHAT STAFF HAD PROPOSED.
BUT AT THE END OF IT ALL STAFF IS OF THE OPINION THAT WE SHOULD DE AUTHORIZE THIS PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR TWO REASON.
ONE, THE AREA OF REQUEST IS VERY SMALL.
AND TWO, UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD, AND WITH THIS RESPONSE THAT WE ARE GETTING FROM THE PROPOSALS THAT WE ARE MAKING, IS THAT THERE ARE NO CHAMPIONS, PROPERTY OWNERS CHAMPION TO CHAMPION THIS.
SO IT IS THE FEELING OF THE STAFF AND ALSO WITH CONSULTATION WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE TO DE AUTHORIZE THIS BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO REASONS.
UM, DOES ANYONE WANT THE ENTIRE BACKGROUND ON, ON THIS SINCE THE REQUEST IS NOW TO DE AUTHORIZE THE HEARING? I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU CHAIRMAN, THAT WE SHOULD NOT CONTINUE THIS HEARING.
UM, WHY DON'T WE JUST, CAN WE CUT? CAN WE JUST, THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE LAST SLIDE.
SO IT WAS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE TRANSPORTATION.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I PRESENT WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, JUST IN CASE THERE ARE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, THE EFFECTIVE ACTION OF DE AUTHORIZING IS, UH, TO GO BACK TO THE STATUS QUO, THE EXISTING ZONING REMAINS IN PLACE AND THERE'S NO FURTHER, UH, THERE'S NO FURTHER, UH, HEARING TO INVESTIGATE THE ZONING.
WE JUST GO BACK TO CR AND WE'RE DONE.
AND, UH, ATTORNEY CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, IF WE DE AUTHORIZE, THEN THERE'S NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF THE EXISTING ZONING IT'LL SAY IN PLACE.
UH, COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK, UH, JUST WANT TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH, UH, HOW, HOW MANY, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE THERE? JUST RECAP.
WE DID HAVE, UH, JUST THREE, THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS, COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND ONE MEETING THAT WE CONSIDER ALSO A COMMUNITY MEETING, BUT IT WAS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LEADERS AND, AND YOU HAD INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONS AS WELL WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE HAD SEVERAL INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND DIFFERENT GROUPS, UHHUH, UH, TO ADDRESS DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE REZONING AND ALSO OTHER ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY.
W AND WAS RO PLANNING ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT YOU SPOKE WITH? YES.
RO PLANNING WAS ONE OF THE GROUP THAT WAS ENGAGED IN THIS FROM DAY ONE.
AND, UH, WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THEM, A LOT OF, UH, EMAIL EX CORRESPONDENCE WITH THEM AND ALSO ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH THEIR DIFFERENT AND WHAT WAS THEIR, WHAT DID THEIR, WHAT WAS THEIR FEELINGS ON THE CASE? SO FROM THE START, THEY DIDN'T WANT THIS REZONING.
THEY FELT THAT IT WAS NOT NECESSARY TO REONE THE AREA THAT THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T WANT IT.
UH, THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD WITH THEM, THEY DIDN'T PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION OTHER THAN THEY DIDN'T WANT THE ME THE, THE REASONING TO HAPPEN.
AND, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION IS, UH, THE OWNERSHIP, MY UNDERSTANDING, IS IT TRUE THAT SOME OF THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PARCELS THAT WERE IN, UH, IN THE, UM, CASE BOUNDARIES HAD CHANGED WHILE THE PROCESS WAS TAKING PLACE? YES.
WHEN WE DID THE, WHEN WE STARTED, THERE WAS A PROPERTY, I THINK, UH, THE, THE ARIA RESTAURANT AND THAT ONE, THEY PUT UP A FOR SALE PROPER, UH, SIGN UP.
AND I'M OF THE OPINION THAT IT HAS BEEN SOLD.
SO THERE'S BEEN CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP.
ALSO, THERE WAS ONE PROPERTY THAT WAS BEHIND AT, I THINK IT WAS 10 12 WEST EDGEFIELD.
THAT WAS A VACUUM PROPERTY THAT WAS BEHIND THE STRUCTURE, THE MAIN ANCHOR STRUCTURE, THE HISTORIC BUILDING THAT IS LOCATED AT THIS INTERSECTION THAT WAS ALSO BOUGHT BY THE PROPERTY OWNER, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TO USE IT FOR PARKING.
THE, THE BUILDING AND THE, AND THE NEW OWNERSHIP DIDN'T, UM, HA DIDN'T SUPPORT OR VOICE.
THE NEW OWNERSHIP WAS IN SUPPORT.
BUT, UH, I THINK THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE WERE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS WERE REALLY NOT CONDUCIVE TO HIM.
I DID HAVE A MEETING WITH HIM A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND HE HAD SPECIFIC THINGS THAT HE WAS HOPING TO GET OUT OF THIS, UH, THE PRIMARY ONE BEING PACKING TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THIS.
AND, UH, WE TOLD HIM THAT WE WERE DOING A CITYWIDE PACKING REFORM THAT WOULD LOOK AT SPECIFIC COMMERCIAL OR MIXED USE NODES LIKE THIS AND WOULD MOST LIKELY REDUCE PACKING REQUIREMENTS OR ELIMINATE THEM TOGETHER.
SO WE FELT THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF
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THE CONCERNS THAT HE HAD.BUT HE HAD ALSO ACQUIRED THE ADJACENT VACUUM PROPERTY THAT WAS NEXT TO THE BUILDING AS PART ALSO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT WITH TRANSPORTATION.
WE LOOKED AT PACKING ON STREET PACKING IN FRONT OF HIS PROPERTY BECAUSE UNDER FORM-BASED DISTRICT, THOSE WOULD ALSO QUALIFY FOR, TO MEET PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR PERMITTING.
UH, BUT THE CONFIGURATION THAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT CAME UP WITH WAS TO ENSURE THAT THERE WERE TURN LANES.
SO THAT OPTION OF HAVING ON STREET PARKING FOR HIS PROPERTY WAS NOT FEASIBLE.
BUT THE ACQUISITION OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WOULD PROBABLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE PARKING NEEDS THAT HE HAS.
AND ALSO IF PARKING REFORM GOES AS STAFF IS CONSIDERING, MAYBE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME PARKING REDUCTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? FORSIGHT? UH, COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST SLIDE WITH THE TIMELINE? JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND? YES.
UH, YOU HAVE THE THIRD COMMUNITY MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LEADERS, UH, WHICH WAS AT ONE LOCATION, YOU SAY PAL AREA, AND THAT'S ON OCTOBER 2ND, 2024.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE, THE NEXT BULLET IS THE FOURTH COMMUNITY MEETING FOR A ZONING CONSENSUS AT, AT, AT THE WINNETKA SCHOOL.
BUT YOU HAVE IT AT THE SAME DAY, OCTOBER 2ND.
IS THAT A MISTAKE? YEAH, I THINK I, I DID, I DID NOTIFY.
I DID NOTICE THAT AND I DID, UH, UPDATE IT.
UH, MAYBE THE SLIDE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DID NOT REFLECT THAT THE FOURTH MEETING HAPPENED ON NOVEMBER THE 19TH, 2024 AT WINNETKA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
BUT THE OCTOBER MEETING HAPPENED AT THE ARIA WITH THE COMMUNITY LEADERS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, CORRECT THAT FOR THE RECORD.
IT IS, UH, 11:27 AM AND THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
WE'LL BE BACK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1230.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK IS IN THE ROOM.
[CALL TO ORDER]
AND GENTLEMEN, WE WILL, UH, UH, CALL TO ORDER THE, UH, APRIL 24TH MEETING OF THE DALLAS LEAGUE PLAN COMMISSION IS 12:34 PM UM, UH, BELIEVE WE'LL START BY TAKING ROLE.GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER SCHOCK, DISTRICT TWO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DISTRICT THREE.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT, DISTRICT FOUR, COMMISSIONER FORSETH.
DISTRICT FIVE, ABSENT DISTRICT SIX.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER PRESENT, DISTRICT SEVEN.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, REAGAN PRESENT.
DISTRICT EIGHT, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT, DISTRICT NINE.
VACANT OR ABSENT? DISTRICT 12.
DISTRICT TH UH, 13 COMMISSIONER HALL HERE.
DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBIN.
UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.
[PUBLIC TESTIMONY]
CARDS DOWN FRONT.WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO REGISTER YOUR, UH, ATTENDANCE WITH THIS.
[Zoning Cases - Consent]
WITH THAT, UH, I'M GOING TO, UM, ASK MS. ALGA TO READ IN, UH, OUR ITEMS ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE.ITEM NUMBER TWO IS Z 2 34 DASH 2 0 0 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL OTHER THAN AN OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONED IN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDISTRICT AND AN NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 9 5 SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT AND PARTIALLY WITHIN THE H OVER 74 LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL.
HISTORIC OVERLAY, DISTRICT NUMBER 74 AT THE EAST CORNER OF LC FAY HAGGIN STREET AND MALCOLM X BOULEVARD.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS Z 2 34 DASH 180 9.
AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT
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TO ALLOW ALCOHOL SALES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISER FOOD STORE, LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY.ZONED RRD ONE REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HILLBURN DRIVE AND GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE-YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITION.
CONDITIONS ITEM NUMBER SIX IS Z 2 45 DASH 56.
AN APPLICATION FOR THE RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1 6 5 3 FOR A POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE INDUSTRIAL OUTSIDE USE, LIMITED TO WOOD OR LUMBER PROCESSING ON PROPER PROPERTIES ZONED IN IM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRICT WITH EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS.
Z 0 5 6 DASH 3 0 8 ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MANANA, MANANA DRIVE EAST OF SPANGLER ROAD.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A REVISED SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE JUST READ IN THREE ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA THAT, UH, WE WILL BE VOTING ON HERE IN A MOMENT.
UM, ITEMS NUMBER THREE AND FIVE WERE, UH, REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE DEALT WITH INDIVIDUALLY HERE IN JUST A MOMENT.
SO WE HAVE THREE CASES THAT HAVE BEEN READ TO US, UH, CASES TO FOUR AND SIX.
IS, UH, THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEMS TWO, FOUR, OR SIX? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, WHEELER.
REAGAN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR US? I DO.
UM, I'M TRYING TO GET THOSE, CAN YOU GIMME THOSE THREE NUMBERS AGAIN? NO, I GOTTA THAT DON'T, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, YES, I DO HAVE A A OH MY GOD.
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MATTER OF, UH, MY, MY, UH, THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TWO, FOUR, AND SIX, UH, IN THE MATTER OF THE CONSENT IN, UH, AGENDA ITEMS TWO, FOUR, AND SIX, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOR ALL STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVES SUBJECT TO, UM, CONDITIONS WITHIN THE, UH, SEARCH TO THE CONDITIONS WITHIN THE, UH, UM, THE DOCKET.
UH, MS. WHEELER REAGAN FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
[3. 25-1408A An application for MU-1 Mixed Use District on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the north line of Grovecrest Drive, west of Conner Drive.]
MOVING TO CASE NUMBER THREE, UM, MS. GARZA GONNA READ THAT OR, UH, MS. ALGA, MS. GARZA.ITEM NUMBER THREE IS KZ 2 23 2 44.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN U ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE R 7.58.
SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF GROVE.
CHRIS DRIVE, WEST OF CORNER CONNOR DRIVE STYLE FOUNDATION IS APPROVAL.
UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UH, CASE Z 2 23 DASH 2 44.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK, UH, IN, UH, SUPPORT OF THIS CASE? MR. REEVES, COME ON DOWN.
38 0 7 BANK CREST DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
I'M REPRESENTING THE, UH, APPLICANT IN THIS CASE, THE BANK OF BANK OF AMERICA.
THIS IS A, UM, THIS QUICK HISTORY.
UH, THIS PARKING LOT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE EARLY FIFTIES, 1950S.
IT WAS PART OF A, A GROVE STATE BANK AT THE TIME.
UH, GROVE STATE EVENTUALLY EVOLVED IN THE BANK OF AMERICA BANK, WHICH IS LOCATED ON, UM, ON BUCKNER 1510 SOUTH BUCKNER.
AND THE PARKING LOT IS, IS R 10.
IT WAS USED AT THE TIME FOR CIRCULATION AND PARKING INTO A, UH, OFFSITE, I'LL CALL IT AN OFFSITE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY, UH, DRIVE-THRU BANK.
AND THEY HAD PNEUMATIC TUBES GOING FROM THAT DRIVE-THRU BANK
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UNDER THE ALLEY GOING INTO THE GROVE CREST BANK.EVENTUALLY, UH, BANK OF AMERICA INSTALLED THEIR OWN DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOWS, SOLD THE, UH, THE EXISTING DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOWS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY SOLD IT TO, BUT THEY GOT, AND THEN THEY WANTED TO RETAIN THE PARKING LOT FOR EXCESS PARKING AND EMPLOYEE PARKING AND CUSTOMER PARKING.
ORIGINALLY I APPLIED FOR A PARKING DISTRICT.
UH, THE STAFF WAS, UH, AGAINST THAT AND RECOMMENDED AN MU ONE, UH, DISTRICT, WHICH WE SUPPORT.
UH, THEY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY RECOMMENDED AN U ONE 'CAUSE IT ALLOWS A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AND GARAGE, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE WANT,
THAT'S REALLY, REALLY WHAT WE WANT.
SO, UH, I'LL BE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY, MR. REEVES, WHAT WAS THE OBJECTION TO THE PARKING DISTRICT? DO YOU KNOW? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE OBJECTION TO THE PARKING DISTRICT THAT YOU REQUESTED? WELL, I, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS WE TURNED IN A PARKING ANALYSIS TO THE STAFF AND, UH, THE ANALYSIS, AND I KNEW IT WAS GONNA SHOW THIS SHOW THAT WE, UH, WE HAD ADEQUATE PARKING ALREADY, BUT WE STILL HAD PARKING THAT WE WERE USING, YOU KNOW, ON THIS SITE FOR, UH, OVERFLOW PARKING FOR EMPLOYEES, THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDED AGAINST THE PARKING DISTRICT AND WE ENDED UP WITH AN MU ONE, WHICH ALLOWED, UH, YOU KNOW, A EXISTING PARKING LOT AND GARAGE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UH, YES, I UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE YOU'RE GOING, BUT I MEAN, REGARDLESS THE, UH, OF WHAT THE, UM, PARKING DEMAND STUDY SHOWED, THE PARKING LOT IS BEING USED AS A PARKING LOT.
THEY, THEY HAVE A DEMONSTRATED NEED FOR THE PARKING LOT.
UH, MR. REES, I'LL JUST ASK, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR CLIENT NO LONGER OWNS THE VACANT MOTOR BANK ADJACENT TO THIS APPLICATION.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT.
THEY SOLD THAT, I THINK IN, UH, 2018.
I DON'T, IT'S ZONED TO OH OH ONE, I BELIEVE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FOR MR. REEVES? IS, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS CASE? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
MS. GARZA, JUST TO CONFIRM WITH AN MU ONE IN THE ADJACENT, UM, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, THERE WOULD BE BUFFER ZONES THAT WOULD BE TRIGGERED IF THERE WAS SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE COMMERCIAL USE THAT IS, UM, PROPOSED BY THIS APPLICANT.
UM, SO YOU NO FURTHER, OH, COMMISSIONER SCHOCK? NO QUESTION.
UH, SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, IT LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK, YOU HAVE A MOTION? UH, I DO.
UH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, IN THE CASE NUMBER Z 2 23 2 4 4 LG, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE, UH, AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
CAN WE HAVE A SECOND? UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER SLEEPER FOR YOUR SECOND, UM, DISCUSSION.
ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED? UH, IS THAT TWO TWO OPPOSED? UM, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER AND, UM, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH MOTION PASSES.
[5. 25-1411A An application for a Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise store less than 3,500 square feet on property zoned a CR-D-1 Community Retail with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the southeast corner of North Masters Drive and Tokowa Drive.]
CASE NUMBER FIVE.IS UH, YOU GONNA READ THAT ONE IN? OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS KZ 2 45 115.
AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE STORE LESS THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY ZONED A CD ONE COMMUNITY RETAIL WITH A D ONE LAKER CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH MASTERS DRIVE IN
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TACO DRIVE.STAR RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A DISCIPLINE AND CONDITIONS.
UH, MS. GARZA, UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK, UH, ON THIS CASE? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, WELL, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO, NO QUESTIONS.
MR. TURNOCK, IN CASE NUMBER Z 2 45 115 CC, I MOVE THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD TO MAY 8TH.
UM, UH, COMMISSIONER TURNOFF FOR YOUR MOTION, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
MOVING ON TO OUR, UH, ZONING CASES UNDER ADVISEMENT.
[7. 25-1414A An application for the amendment and renewal of Specific Use Permit No. 1871 for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less on property zoned a CR-D-1 Community Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the northeast corner of Lake June Road and Holcomb Road.]
CASE NUMBER SEVEN, MR. NUNEZ, ARE YOU GONNA, OKAY.THANK YOU MS. GARZA, YOU'RE STEPPING UP
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS KZ 2 3 4 1 6 5, AN APPLICATION FOR THE AMENDMENT AND RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1871 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON PROPERTY ZONED A CRD ONE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LAKE JUNE ROAD AND HOLCOMB ROAD RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL THREE YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK, UH, ON THIS CASE? ALL RIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, MR. SCHOCK, I HAVE A MOTION, UH, I'D LIKE, UH, IN THE CASE OF Z CASE Z 2 34, 1 65 CR I MOVE THAT WE, UM, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S APPROVAL.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UH, MOTION AND A SECOND TO, UH, UH, FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR APPROVAL.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[8. 25-1415A An application for a Specific Use Permit for a drive-through restaurant on property zoned a GR General Retail Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 193, the Oak Lawn Special Purpose District, on the south corner of Maple Avenue and Hawthorne Avenue.]
NUMBER EIGHT, MS. GARZA.ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS KZ 2 3 4 2 7 9.
AN APPLICATION FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT ON PROPERTY ZONE, A GR GENERAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITHIN PLAN, DEVELOP DISTRICT NUMBER 1 93, THE OAKLAND SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF MAPLE AVENUE AND HAWTHORNE AVENUE.
CIRCUM CONDITION IS APPROVED FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO SIP PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
IS UH, THERE ANYONE HERE TO, UM, SPEAK ON THIS CASE? OKAY.
UM, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, ARE YOU READY WITH A MOTION? I DO.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 34 DASH 2 79, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
OKAY, THANK YOU MR. UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER SECONDED.
UM, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION? OKAY, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[9. 25-1417A An application for 1) a planned development district for MF-3(A) Multifamily District uses and 2) removal of a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay on property zoned CR-D-1 Community Retail District with the D-1 Overlay, on the southeast corner of South Jim Miller Road and Great Trinity Forest Way.]
CASE NUMBER NINE.ITEM NUMBER NINE IS KZ 2 3 4 360.
AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A PLAN DEVELOP DISTRICT FOR AN MF THREE, A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT USES AND TWO REMOVAL OF A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON PROPERTY ZONE CRD ONE COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH THE D ONE OVERLAY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH JIM MILLER ROAD AND GRAY TRINITY FOREST WAY.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF ONE, A PABLE DISTRICT FOR MF THREE.
A DISTRICT USES SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS AND TWO REMOVAL OF A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY.
IS UH, THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? THANK YOU.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
JESSE COPELAND 500 WINSTEAD BUILDING 27 28 NORTH HARWOOD STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 0 1 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.
WE HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION TO RUN THROUGH TO
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YEAH, THAT'S FINE.COULD YOU PERHAPS TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON? THAT WOULD HELP US? YEAH.
IS THAT BETTER? THAT'S BETTER, THANK YOU.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SITE FOR A WHILE.
WE'VE BEEN HAPPY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN AND CATCH HIM UP ON OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE SITE SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL USES AND NATURAL FEATURES.
IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL FOR COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES, BUT WE BELIEVE MULTIFAMILY IS THE, UH, OPTIMAL USE FOR THIS SITE.
IT'S COHESIVE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND OUR SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT UTILIZES THE NATURAL FEATURES OF THE AREA AND USES THEM AS A, UH, AMENITY RATHER THAN A CONSTRAINT.
UM, I'LL LET CARSTEN LOW FROM JPI, THE APPLICANT AND DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT RUN THROUGH SOME MORE SPECIFICS OF THE SITE AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
IF WE GET THIS UP, WE CAN PULL IT UP, BUT GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, STAFF.
I'M AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH JPI.
AS JESSE HAD MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE PROJECT KNOWN AS TORRINGTON FOREST FOR A HANDFUL OF MONTHS NOW, UH, AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN AND PREVIOUSLY LORI BLAIR.
THROUGHOUT THAT AND THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS, WE'VE SOUGHT TO ENGAGE FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ULTIMATELY BUILD A HIGH CLASS QUALITY, UH, MULTIFAMILY USE HERE.
WE CURRENTLY ARE ANTICIPATING UTILIZING ROUGHLY 50% OF THE SITE AS INTENDED NATURE PRESERVES, SO RETAINING THE NATURAL FOREST THAT SURROUNDS THE AREA TO, UH, TO AID IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS THE SLIDES PULLED UP NOW, BUT IN EVERYTHING WE BUILD, WE BUILD QUALITY.
UH, WE'VE BEEN ONE OF THE LARGEST MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPERS IN THE METROPLEX FOR MANY YEARS AND LARGER THAN TWO, THREE AND FOUR COMBINED.
AND SO WE HAVE OUR OWN IN-HOUSE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, OUR IN-HOUSE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
AND SO THE SAME QUALITY THAT WE BUILD IN ALL OF OUR ASSETS WE PLAN TO PLACE HERE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WE PLAN TO HAVE, UH, GRANITE COUNTERTOPS, NINE FOOT CEILINGS, ENERGY STAR APPLIANCES, BUT EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT IS A TOP TIER QUALITY ASSET.
AND SO OUR GOAL SHOULD YOU, UH, BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE TO BRING THAT TO THIS INTERSECTION.
WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THE DEVELOPMENT.
ARE WE ALMOST THERE ON THE, I DON'T.
AND THE ONLY SLIDE WE REALLY NEED TO SHOW AT THIS POINT IS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE THAT JUST HELPS SHOW THE PICTURE OF, UH, WHAT WE'RE AIMING TO BUILD.
SO YOU COULD SEE AROUND THAT NATURE PRESERVE.
WE'RE PLANNING TO BUILD, WE'RE ANTICIPATING DOING A WALKING TRAIL THAT SURROUNDS THE ENTIRETY OF THE SITE DOING WALK, UH, DOG PARK.
WE'RE DOING A RESIDENT LOUNGE AND COMMUNITY CENTER RESORT STYLE POOL, ENERGY STAR APPLIANCES, AS I SAID, WOOD, VINYL, LAMINATE PLANKING.
AND SO, UH, THIS IS JUST TO HELP ILLUSTRATE WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO BRING TO THIS, THIS INTERSECTION.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.
MR. HALL? UH, THIS, THIS DIAGRAM MAY ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT, UH, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THAT CREEK, SIR ELM CREEK.
UH, YOU'RE NOT BUILDING OVER THAT, YOU'RE RETAINING THE CREEK OR THAT'S YOUR NATURAL AREA.
IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH DRAINAGE OR FLOODING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU WORRY ABOUT? NO, SIR.
THERE'S NOT, UH, IN FACT, WE'VE ALREADY DONE A PRELIMINARY DRAINAGE STUDY THAT HAS EVALUATED THIS, AND SO WE'RE INTENDING TO
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NOT IMPACT THE CURRENT FLOOD ZONE THAT'S IN THAT AREA AND RETAINING THAT.UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING QUITE SUBSTANTIAL RETAINING WALLS THAT FRONTS THE CREEK TO KEEP THE SITE ELEVATED ABOVE THAT FLOODPLAIN, BUT KEEPING THAT AS A NICE NATURE ELEMENT TO THE SITE.
AND WILL YOU, YOU, UH, YOU GUYS BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND THE CLEANING AND SO FORTH OF THAT CREEK? YES, SIR.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, UH, LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT LOOKS THAT YOU ARE PLANNING A FOUR STORY BUILDING, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
BUT THAT WAS NOT, UM, ACHIEVABLE IF RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE WAS, UM, MAINTAINED ON THE PROPERTY? YES, MA'AM.
AND I I THINK JESSE HAS SOME MORE BACKGROUND ON THAT SPECIFIC PIECE OF IT.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, OUR ENGINEERS DETERMINED LAST YEAR AS WE WERE PROGRESSING THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE WOULD IMPACT THE DEVELOPABILITY OF THE SITE SPECIFICALLY, UM, THIS BUILDING TO THE, UH, SOUTHWEST AS YOU SEE HERE, UM, IT WOULD NOT BE ACHIEVABLE.
SHOULDN'T THE RPS UH, REMAIN? DO YOU KNOW WHAT HEIGHT YOU'RE PLANNING TO BUILD WITH THE FOUR STORIES? I KNOW MF THREE ENTITLES YOU TO 90 FEET, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK AS IF YOU'RE, UH, CONTEMPLATING THAT HEIGHT.
RIGHT? I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, AROUND 50.
UH, I BELIEVE ONE OF YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE, UH, MAINTAINING ABOUT HALF OF THE ACREAGE HERE AS, UM, NATURAL AREA TREE PRESERVATION AREA.
SO YOU'RE ABOUT, I THINK IT'S A 16.95 ACRES.
SO, SO, UM, EIGHT ACRES OR SO IS GOING TO BE OKAY.
AND IS THAT CONTIGUOUS AREA? YES, MA'AM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE.
OH, MR. UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, EARLIER TODAY IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION, THEY HAD INDICATED THAT THERE WAS AN, UH, ALSO AN ENTRANCE OFF OF JIM MILLER ROAD TO THE ROAD WEST, AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT IN THIS, UH, THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IMAGE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
SO IS THERE ONLY THE ONE GATED ENTRY OFF OF, UH, TR A GREAT TRINITY FOREST ROAD? NO, SIR.
IT'S PROBABLY HARD TO SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC SPECIFICALLY.
UH, AND WE HAVE SINCE REALIGNED THAT ROAD TO CONNECT WITH THE ADJACENT ROAD ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THERE WILL BE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, BUT THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE COMING OFF OF SOUTH GREAT TRAINING FOREST.
ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTION, MR. FORSYTH? OKAY.
AND JUST ONE, UM, FOLLOW UP TO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S QUESTION ON THE OPEN SPACE, IT'S BEING PROPOSED AS I READ THE CONDITIONS, YOUR TREE PRESERVATION AREA IS TIED TO THE, UM, MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENT.
IF IT IS NOT A MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENT, THAT TREE PRO PROTECTION AREA DOES NOT APPLY.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT YOUR INTENT? THAT IS CORRECT WITH HOW THE PD READS NOW, BUT WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO INSERTING SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD MIRROR THE TREE PRESERVATION AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WE INTENDED TO DO FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
UM, IF NOT, UH, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO HAVE A MOTION.
AND IF I CAN GET A SECOND, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
SO IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 3 4 3 16, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
I'LL ASK THAT THE DESIGNATED TREE PRESERVATION AREA AS INDICATED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, CANNOT BE CHANGED WITH A MINOR AMENDMENT.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER HALL.
UH, MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN SECOND COMMISSIONER HALL.
UM, COMMISSIONER'S, UH, DISCUSSION? UH, YES.
I JUST HAVE A, A COMMENT BECAUSE I'VE, I WORKED CLOSELY, UH, WITH THEM, UH, TO GET IT TO THIS POINT.
AND, UH, UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SPECIFICALLY LITECH.
I THINK AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NEEDED IN THE CITY.
UH, LITECH WILL BE GOOD FOR THE CITY.
UH, MY ONLY, UH, CONCERN FOR MY DISTRICT IS WE HAVE IN AREAS A HIGHER CONCENTRATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND LITECH.
AND THE CR THE GRAVITY THAT WE CREATE IS THE GRAVITY THAT WE MAKE, WHICH MEANS THAT MORE
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AND MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ONE AREA DOES NOT, UH, PROVIDE A AREA ENOUGH LAND TO HAVE MIXED INCOME USES OR, UH, MIXED INCOME, UH, STOCK OF HOMES.UH, BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROJECT I'M SUPPORTING BECAUSE THE WORK THAT THEY DO IS DONE VERY WELL.
UM, AND, UH, THIS WILL BE THE TYPE OF GRAVITY THAT WE NEED FOR THIS AREA.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA IN TERMS OF HOUSING STOCK OR EVEN RETAIL FOR THE LAST 20 SOMETHING YEARS.
UH, SO FOR, FOR THOSE REASONS, I AM IN SUPPORT OF MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD AND FOR THE, THE ZONING CHANGE.
UH, ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? I JUST WANTED, IF, IF I MAY, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
IF YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN A, UM, FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT THE TREE PRESERVATION AREA WAS REQUIRED FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT AS IT'S STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD ONLY BE TIED TO THE MIXED INCOME.
AND I THINK IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT OF YOUR CHANGE, THAT IT COULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO A MINOR AMENDMENT, IS IT HAD TO COME BACK FOR FULL CONSIDERATION.
HOWEVER, AS THE CONDITIONS ARE WRITTEN, IT WOULDN'T CURRENTLY BE REQUIRED.
IF IT'S NOT, UM, MIXED INCOME, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO YOU OR NOT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UM, OH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, REAGAN.
I GOT, OH, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THIS PARTICULAR BUILDER, THEY ARE A GREAT BUILDER, UM, BUT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
WE ARE, WE ARE AT, WE ARE FILTER CAPACITY WITH LIVE TECH HOUSING IN, IN, IN, IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT.
THIS, THIS PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH THE BUILDINGS ARE GREAT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA WHERE THE CRIME IS VERY HIGH, MOST OF THE APARTMENTS ARE IN THIS AREA, IS LIVE TECH, ARE HUB BASE IN SOME KIND OF WAY.
WE NEED SOME, WE NEED, WE NEED WORKING CLASS, WORKING CLASS HOUSING.
BUT AS FAR AS LIVE TECH, I CANNOT SUPPORT ANOTHER LIVE TECH PROJECT IN, IN, IN THIS PART OF, OF DALLAS, ESPECIALLY PLEASANT GROVE AND SOUTH DALLAS.
UM, I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE REASONING BEHIND IT.
I I DO LOVE THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, BUILDING WITH THE THINGS THAT THEY DO, BUT I, I PERSONALLY JUST CANNOT, UM, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT IN MY DISTRICT.
THAT'S ALL A DISTRICT THAT'S IN PRO PROXIMITY TO ME KNOWING, UM, ESPECIALLY, UM, WITH THE JOB THAT I HOLD, UM, AND KNOWING WHERE, WHERE THE, WHERE THE ISSUES LIE WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
AS WITH THE TICKET VOUCHER TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, UM, WE NEED A, WE NEED MIXED HOUSING AND THIS IS JUST NOT IT.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, SO WE HAVE A, A, A MOTION, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HALL, AND THEN A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FROM COMMISSIONER HAMPTON ADDRESSING THE, UH, TREE PRESERVATION.
UM, SO, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
YOU'RE, UH, ONE AND HERBERT ONE AGAINST AND, AND HERBERT.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, NUMBER, NUMBER NINE, MS. GARZA.
ITEM NUMBER 10? NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS NUMBERED.
[10. 25-1420A An application for an R-5(A) Single Family District on property zoned an A(A) Agricultural District with deed restrictions [Z845-372], on the northeast line of Haymarket Road, southeast of South Saint Augustine Road.]
10, RIGHT? ITEM NUMBER 10 IS KZ 2 4 5 1 24.AN APPLICATION FOR AN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED IN AA AGRICULTURE DISTRICT WITH DATE RESTRICTIONS Z 8 4 5 3 7 2 ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF HAYMARKET ROAD, SOUTHEAST OF SOUTH STINE ROAD.
SO RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
HE'S COMING UP, GET SOME HELP WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
PUT YOU LIKE A LITTLE, SO YOU COULD DO IT FROM OVER THERE, RIGHT? THAT'D BE NICE.
CARL CROWLEY, 2201 MAIN STREET IN A FEW WEEKS.
WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE YOU A NEW ADDRESS.
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WE ARE MOVING.SO, UM, THE REQUEST TODAY IS AN AG DISTRICT TO AN R FIVE DISTRICT.
I THINK IT CAME UP IN THE BRIEFING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE AGREEABLE NOW TO CHANGE THAT TO AN R SEVEN 50 A DISTRICT.
I JUST WANT TO GO OVER IF I CAN GET THIS GOING THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE SITE, YOU HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT IT TODAY.
UH, MOST OF THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, THIS, UH, SHOWS THE, UH, THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION THAT'S SORT OF SURROUNDING IT, UM, WITH THE R SEVEN FIVE AND THE R FIVE SORT OF MIX.
AND YOU SORT OF GOT SUPERIMPOSED, THEY'RE HARD TO READ, BUT SUPERIMPOSED OF WHAT WE'D BE DOING, ABOUT 40 SOME LOTS.
UM, SORT OF A CONTINUATION OF THAT.
UM, THE OTHER STUFF WAS ALREADY ZONED.
IT CAME OUT IN DISCUSSION AND DAVID NAVARROS WAS HERE TO DISCUSS THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE ENGINEERING APPROVED ON THE REST OF THAT, UM, YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT HAY MARKET AND THE CAPABILITIES AND THE CONDITION OF HAY MARKET.
ALTHOUGH IF YOU CAN SEE IF YOU SAW IN YOUR SLIDES, UH, IT, IT HAS BEEN OVERLAID RECENTLY.
PRIOR TO THAT IT WAS IN REALLY BAD SHAPE.
UM, SO, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE, UH, SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS WILL COME WHEN THE, UH, ENGINEERING IS APPROVED, WHICH IS, UM, PROBABLY AT LEAST A FEW WEEKS AWAY.
UM, YOU'RE AWARE AG ZONING IS REALLY WHAT, WHEN SOMETHING IS ANNEXED IN THE CITY IS GIVEN AG ZONING.
UH, IT'S, IT IS A HOLDING DISTRICT.
UM, AND, AND, AND NOW IT'S THE TIME WE'RE ASKING IT TO BE ZONED.
THIS SHOWS ABOUT R FIVE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT FOUR UNITS THE ACRE AT R SEVEN FIVE.
UM, FORD DALLAS CALLS THIS A, UH, SMALL TOWN RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS A BLEND OF RURAL AND SUBURBAN LIFESTYLE, WHICH IS ALL THIS, THIS USED TO BE.
THE RILEY KLEBERG AREA WAS XANAX IN THE CITY IN THE SEVENTIES, LATE SEVENTIES, EARLY EIGHTIES.
UM, AND YOU'VE SEEN, UH, IT'S, IT'S SLOWLY AND YOU'VE HAD REQUESTS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
IT'S SLOWLY BEING CONVERTED INTO TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TYPE USES.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST, UH, UH, UH, THE IDEA IS THAT THE LOTS ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO, TO DR. HORTON, AND THAT'S LIKELY THE BUILDER.
BUT, UM, I GUESS THE BIG DISCUSSION WAS INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANYTHING THAT DAVID COULDN'T ANSWER.
UM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T BUILD, THEY DON'T WANT US TO BUILD SECTIONS OF ROAD BECAUSE I, I EQUATE THAT TO IF ANYBODY'S DONE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WAS PLANO IN THE EIGHTIES, YOU'D GO DOWN TO BE A TWO LANE ROAD, THEN YOU'D JUMP ACROSS THE WAY AND THERE'D BE A ONE LANE ROAD AND YOU'D JUMP BACK AND FORTH AND THAT DIDN'T WORK.
UM, SO, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DOESN'T LIKE THAT SCENARIO.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME IDEAS ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE CAN MAKE AT OUR, OUR STREET INTERSECTIONS.
A RIGHT TURN LANE, A LEFT TURN LANE SO THAT THE THROUGH TRAFFIC CAN GO THROUGH.
UH, SO WE'RE NOT BLOCKING THAT.
UM, AND THEN THE DRAINAGE ISSUES, OBVIOUSLY AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE HAVE TO HANDLE THE DRAINAGE, UH, ON OUR PROPERTY.
WE HAVE DETENTION IN THE LARGER PROPERTY, UM, THAT WILL HANDLE MOST OF THIS AREA.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S A GOOD BIT.
I'LL GO REAL QUICK 'CAUSE MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, WELL, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? THE OWNER OR DEVELOPER HERE? IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER.
UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, QUESTIONS FOR MR. CRAWLEY.
UM, SO COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DO YOU, WE HAVE COMMISSIONS FOR STAFF.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, THANK YOU.
NOW, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, UH, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 45 DASH 24, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL MAY 8TH, 2025.
UM, ALRIGHT, UH, MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YES.
COULD I GET SOME CONTEXT ON WHY WE'D BE HOLDING UNDER ADVISEMENT? YES, THERE'S STILL SOME OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS, UH, THAT I HAD, UM, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE WERE CERTAIN DOCUMENTS THAT WERE CIRCULATED LATE THIS LAST MONDAY, AND SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLOSED ALL THE LOOPS THERE.
AND THEN, UH, THIS WILL BE DISPOSED ON MAY 8TH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[11. 25-1421A An application for 1) a TH-3(A) Townhouse District; and 2) deed restrictions on property zoned an R-7.5(A) Single Family District and an IR Industrial Research District, generally bounded by Bonnie View Road, Southerland Avenue, and Arrow Road, south of the terminus of Dalview Avenue, and on the east line of Arrow Road, north of Southerland Avenue.]
MR. BATE, ITEM NUMBER 11[02:45:01]
IS THAT WORKING? ITEM NUMBER 11 IS CASE Z 2 34 DASH 2 86.AN APPLICATION FOR ONE A TH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT AND TWO DEED RESTRICTIONS ON PROPERTY ZONE IN R 7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND AN IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT, GENERALLY BOUND BY BON VIEW ROAD, SUTHERLAND AVENUE, ERO ROAD, SOUTH OF DETERMINANTS OF BELLEVUE AVENUE, AND ON THE EAST LINE OF ARROW ROAD, NORTH OF SOUTHLAND AVENUE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL.
ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? YES SIR.
MR. BALDWIN, UH, ROB BALDWIN, 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THIS.
I THINK WE'RE DOING SOME GOOD WORK AND WE'RE GETTING TO, UH, CONSENSUS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, BOTH OUR RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS.
UM, I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, WE GET THIS CASE RE NOTIFIED TO BECOME A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
UH, WE'RE STARTING TO WORK ON THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT CONDITIONS AND A SITE PLAN WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING COMING UP.
AND, UM, I THINK WITH THAT WE, WE GET NEIGHBOR SUPPORT AND HOPEFULLY GET STAFF SUPPORT ON THIS AS WELL.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ASK A QUESTION TO THE ATTORNEY AT THIS POINT? UH, I'LL SEE WHY NOT.
UH, MY QUESTION IS, UH, UH, ROB INDICATED THAT SINCE WE'RE CHANGING THE, THE ZONING TO A, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN LINE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WE NEED TO RE NOTIFY THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE WE BEST TO CONTINUE TO PUT THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT OR SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND FILE HIS TASK RECOMMENDATION AND DENY THIS WITHOUT PREJUDICE AND ALLOW THEM TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER ZONING APPLICATION? UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.
UM, EITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS IS AVAILABLE TO THE COMMISSION.
YOU COULD HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT, RE ADVERTISE IT OR DENY THE CASE WITHOUT PREJUDICE, HAVE THE APPLICANT REAPPLY.
BUT FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT E EITHER EITHER ONE IS AVAILABLE.
I IF, IF, IF WE, UH, PUT IT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND, AND DO, UH, AND DO THE REIFICATION, UH, WHAT IS AN, UH, APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME, ANOTHER 30 DAYS? OR DO WE THINK YOU THINK WE NEED LONGER THAN 30 DAYS FOR TO, TO ALLOW FOR THE REIFICATION PROCESS? UH, THAT'S A BETTER QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UH, 30 DAYS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY RE NOTIFY WITHIN THAT PERIOD AND PERFORM A ANALYSIS OF THE PROPOSED PD.
COMMISSIONER AMP, ANY QUESTION OR COMMENT? NO, I JUST WANTED TO ASK A FOLLOW UP, UM, QUESTION.
AND THIS MAY BE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
UM, IS IT CORRECT THAT, UH, WE COULD ALSO, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO RE NOTIFY FOR THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AT THE APPROPRIATE TIMELINE, UM, THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND TO BE ABLE TO GET THE WORK DONE FOR THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN LIEU OF, UM, HAVING TO REFILE AND ESSENTIALLY RESTART THE TIMELINE? I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE THAT ON OTHER CASES.
CAN YOU ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN? I THINK MS. WHI MAY, MAY HAVE CAUGHT MY CIRCUITOUS QUESTION THERE, OR I CAN RESTATE IT, I MIGHT ASK YOU TO RESTATE IT, BUT WE WERE WHISPERING AMONGST OURSELVES THAT THE CLEANER OPTION WOULD BE TO DENY WITHOUT PREJUDICE AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, ALLOW TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME IN AND BECAUSE WE'LL NEED TO REVIEW IT AS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO IT MIGHT BE CLEANER JUST TO KILL THIS ONE AND WELL, I MIGHT HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION, BUT I'M SORRY I DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I DONT THINK WHAT MY QUESTION WAS, 'CAUSE I, I THINK WE'VE DONE IT ON OTHER CASES WHERE WE'VE HAD STRAIGHT ZONING, WE'VE GONE THROUGH OUR REVIEW PROCESS AND INPUT AND THE DECISION OR THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMISSIONER WAS TO CREATE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND WE HAVE DIRECTED STAFF TO RE ADVERTISE FOR THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THE APPLICANT PAYS THE ADDITIONAL FEE, WE CAN HOLD IT FOR WHATEVER IS THE APPROPRIATE PERIOD TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
BUT I THINK IT, IT GETS TO WHERE COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT I THINK IS PERHAPS GOING, BUT JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND, IS THAT AN OPTION FOR THIS BODY? THAT THAT IS AN CERTAINLY AN OPTION AS WELL? YES, EITHER, EITHER OF THE TWO OPTIONS WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
THE OPTION, THE TWO OPTIONS BEING MAY HAVE COMMENT, INSTRUCT STAFF TO RE NOTIFY AS A PD FOR CONSIDERATION AS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OR DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE, AND THEN ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO REAPPLY EITHER WOULD WORK.
AND MR. CHAIR, MAY I ASK THE APPLICANT IF HE HAS A POINT OF VIEW ON OUR CURRENT DISCUSSION? UH, I'M JUST WAITING FOR MS. WYER TO COME FINISH
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WITHOUT PREJUDICE.IF WE DENY WITHOUT PREJUDICE, WE WON'T BE BACK HERE FOR ANOTHER SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.
AND, UM, THEN SOMEONE ELSE WILL START THIS PROCESS ALL OVER.
WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, UH, COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT ACTUALLY IT'S CUT THE DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY IN HALF, INCREASED OPEN SPACE, INCREASED LOT AREA LOT SIZES, AND CREATED BUFFERS FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
AND I WOULD ASK THAT ALL THAT WORK NOT BE, UH, THROWN OUT.
SO, BUT, AND THE CONCEPT OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS SOMETHING THAT YOUR CLIENT WOULD BE OPEN TO CONSIDERING? YES, WE'VE ALREADY PREPARED THE, THE PD CONDITIONS.
I'VE ALREADY SENT 'EM TO THE CASE MANAGER TO REVIEW 'EM.
HE'S, HE ALSO HAS A COPY OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WE'RE JUST, UH, WORKING WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE, THE EAST, UH, A NON-RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UH, UH, WHO, WHO HAS A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE TO, TO DO SOME PROTECTION SO THEY DON'T RUN INTO PROBLEMS LATER WITH PEOPLE COMPLAINING.
WE'VE DROPPED TWO MORE LOTS, UH, DOING A BUFFER YARD THERE, AND I THINK EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE.
OKAY, WELL, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BALDWIN? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? COULD I ASK A CLARIFICATION QUESTION? SORRY, OVER HERE FROM THE GALLERY, IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, SURE.
UM, SO WE DON'T HAVE A BACKLOG OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, IT WOULD TAKE SIX MONTHS TO COME BACK HERE.
THAT WOULD NOT, IN MY OPINION, I THINK WE CAN WORK INTERNALLY TO REASSIGN IT TO MR. BATE AND GET IT BACK HERE IN A REASONABLE TIME.
IT'S JUST THAT WHEN WE CYCLE TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, WE NEED TO SEND IT TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS LIKE LANDSCAPING ENGINEERING.
WE HAVE A WHOLE PROCESS THAT GETS REVIEWED BY INTERDEPARTMENTAL THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD TRY TO FAST TRACK THIS AS BEST AS WE CAN, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE SIX MONTHS UNLESS IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO GET AN APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, THE MATERIALS TO REVIEW.
SO, BUT, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK WITH TIMELINES.
WE, WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH TIMELINES.
I WANNA BE SENSITIVE TO THE FEES THE APPLICANT IS SUBJECT TO.
I'M SURE THEY'VE ALREADY PAID WHATEVER FEES TO GET TO THIS POINT.
IS THERE ONE OF THESE TWO OPTIONS WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT MAKES MORE SENSE FROM A EXPENDITURE OF FEES? HMM, MS. MAY THE QUESTION OF FEES, UM, THEY CAN GET A PARTIAL REFUND IF IT'S DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE FOR THIS APPLICATION, AND THEN IT WOULD JUST BE THE NORMAL FEES FOR A PD.
SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A CHANGE IN FEES OTHER THAN WE'RE NOT MAILING OUT NOTICES FOR FREE.
SO I GUESS WE'VE, UH, WE'VE HEARD THE FACTS AND WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO COMMISSIONER FORSYTH TO MAKE A MOTION.
I I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR, UH, STAFF.
CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME? REALLY? OKAY.
I'M NOT SPEAKING CLOSE ENOUGH.
SO, UM, MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS THAT WE WOULD PUT THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR 30 DAYS.
IS IT STAFF'S OPINION THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD PUT THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JUNE THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE EXTRA TIME TO ADDRESS ALL THESE ISSUES WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT? I'M SORRY.
UH, SO IF WE WANTED TO COME BACK IN JUNE WITH A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, WE NEED TO RE NOTICE FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN JUNE.
RIGHT? THAT WILL BE MY, IN MY MOTION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M GIVING YOU ENOUGH TIME.
I I THINK MARTIN'S NODDING HIS HEAD.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT.
I, I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION THEN, CHAIRMAN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IN, IN THE CASE OF, UH, Z 2 34 DASH 2 86, I MOVE THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, UH, UH, PUBLIC DISCUSSION OPEN AND HOLD THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JUNE 12TH, UH, TO, TO GIVE STAFF SUFFICIENT TIME, UH, FOR RE-ADVERTISING THIS, UH, CASE AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND, AND, AND ADDRESSING ALL THE, THE ISSUES, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, INTERNALLY.
UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FORSYTH FOR THE MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR THE SECOND, UH, QUESTION.
MY QUESTION IS TO STAFF, DOES THE MOTION NEED TO EXPLICITLY MENTION
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REIFICATION? DID I HEARD RE-ADVERTISING? I DIDN'T HEAR A REIFICATION.WELL, I'M, I, I, I, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
RE REIFICATION, RE-ADVERTISING.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEE NONE.
[12. 25-1422A An application for an amendment to Planned Development District No. 1065 on property zoned Planned Development District No. 1065, on the south line of West Mockingbird Lane, east of Elmbrook Drive.]
UH, COMMISSIONERS.MR. BATE, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU.
ITEM 12 IS CASE Z 2 45 DASH 117.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 10 65 ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, DISTRICT NUMBER 10 65 ON THE SOUTH LINE OF WEST MOCKINGBIRD LANE, EAST OF ELMBROOK DRIVE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED THIS MORNING.
ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? MR. CROWLEY? CARL CROWLEY, 2201 MAIN STREET.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT, NO MISTAKE, BUT THE, BOTH THOSE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE WILL BE SCRAPED.
UM, THE WAREHOUSE IS GOING WELL, ACTUALLY NEVER WAS A WAREHOUSE.
UH, A BIT OF TIDBIT OF INFORMATION, WHICH NO ONE HERE BESIDES ME WOULD KNOW UNLESS I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS USED TO BE WHERE BUILDING INSPECTION WAS BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND EARLY EIGHTIES.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, MR. CARPENTER MIGHT HAVE KNOWN THAT, BUT YES, UM, THAT'S WHERE BUILDING INSPECTION WAS.
SO YES, UH, THIS WILL BE A THREE, UH, AND WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU PROBABLY IN THE JUNE TIMEFRAME WITH A, UH, A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE SITE.
BUT, UH, THIS WILL BE, UH, THREE SEPARATE BUILDINGS.
UH, ABOUT 1,000,002 SQUARE FEET OF, UH, OF EVERY CORNER HAS ONE NOW A DATA CENTER, WHICH I, UH, I, THERE, I GUESS THEY'RE NECESSARY EVIL.
WE ALL PICK UP OUR PHONE AND USE IT AND, AND A LOT OF THAT STUFF GOES THROUGH THERE.
SO, UM, I AM IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF OF, OF NO PARKING REQUIRED.
UM, WE OBVIOUSLY WILL HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING, BUT THAT WILL FREE UP A LOT OF PARKING SPACES AT THE BACK OF THE SITE THAT WERE JUST TO MEET EVEN OUR RECOMMENDED, UM, AMOUNT THAT CAN NOW BE GREEN SPACE AND, AND TREES OF THAT.
UM, THE REASON WE CAN'T PUT A LOT MORE TREES ON THERE IS AGAIN, THE USE.
THE DATA CENTER HAS A LOT OF UNDERGROUND CABLING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH, UH, UH, FORCED THAT AWAY.
AND THEN THERE HAPPENS TO BE IN THE, SORT OF ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SITE, A 19 47 60 INCH SANITARY SEWER LINE INTERCEPTOR.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE AT A VERY HIGH COST, BUT, UM, THAT HAS A VERY LARGE EASEMENT IN IT ALSO THAT RE RESTRICTS OUR TREE LOCATION.
SO OTHERWISE, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE, UH, TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE THIS AFTERNOON? ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR MR. CRAWLEY.
UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SCENE NONE.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, THANK YOU.
IN THE MATTER OF Z TWO THREE, UH, EXCUSE ME, 2 4 5 DASH ONE SEVEN.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
DID I GET A SECOND ON THAT? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR SECOND, UM, COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION.
[SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent Items]
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'LL GO INTO THE SUBDIVISION DOCKET AT THIS TIME.I BELIEVE, UM, MS. ESTA IS JOINING US WORLD RECORD TIME.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
UH, THE CONS CONSENT THAT CONSISTS OF FIVE ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 13 S 2 4 5 DASH 1 35, ITEM NUMBER 14 S 2 45 DASH 1 37.
ITEM NUMBER 15 S 2 45 DASH 1 38.
ITEM NUMBER 16 S 2 45 DASH ONE 40.
AND ITEM NUMBER 17 S 2 45 DASH 1 41.
ALL THE CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, UM, THAT WOULD BE 13
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THROUGH 17.WE'RE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE CASES? OKAY.
UM, SEEING NONE, UM, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION DOCKET.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET OR AS BRIEFED, KEEP POSITION WITHOUT DEPOSITION.
DID THAT, I THOUGHT WE ALREADY, WE ALREADY BRIEFED THAT DEAUTHORIZATION NO, THAT WAS 21.
UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND ON THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET COMMISSIONERS.
[18. 25-1436A An application to replat a 0.6656-acre (28,994-square foot) tract of land containing all of Lot 8 in City Block 20/6912 to create one 14,013-square foot lot and one 14,981-square foot lot on property located on Weehaven Drive at Misty Glen Lane, west corner.]
18 S 2 45 DASH 1 34.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REPLY IS 0.6656 ACRE.
THAT IS 28,994 SQUARE FOOT TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT EIGHT IN CITY BLOCK 20 OVER 69 12 TO CREATE ONE 14,013 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND ONE 14,981 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON PROPERTY.
LOCATED ON WE, WE HAVE IN DRIVE AT MR. GLEN, MR. GLEN LANE, UH, WEST CON 18 NOTICES WE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON MARS, NO.
ON, UH, MARCH 3RD, 2025, WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
AND, UH, OKAY, PER SUBDIVISION, UH, WE NEED TO ADD TWO CONDITIONS.
SO ON THE FINAL PLAT, SO AN EXISTING 20 FOOT PLATY BUILDING LINE, ALONG, ALONG WE HAVE IN DRIVE AND SECOND CONDITION IS ON THE FINAL PLAT.
SO AN EXISTING 30 FOOT PLATY BUILDING LINE ALONG MR. GLEN LANE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? YES, MA'AM.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME DOWN AND THEN WE HAVE ON OUR LIST, JORGE, IS THERE, ARE THERE FOLKS ONLINE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE? OKAY.
YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
WE HAVEN DRIVE DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 3 2.
UH, PLEASE, UH, MAKE YOUR REMARKS.
UM, I LIVE ABOUT TWO, THE SECOND HOUSE FROM WHERE THEY ARE WANTING TO REPLANT THIS PROPERTY.
I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE AUGUST OF 1990.
UH, I'M NOT SURE IF MY NEIGHBORS WERE DILIGENT ENOUGH TO SEND IN THEIR REPLIES, BUT WE ARE ALL AGAINST THIS REPL OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, FOR THESE REASONS BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF DENSITY IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER AND INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS CHANGE THREATENS OUR FAMILY FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT AND RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, DRAINAGE, AND OVERALL PROPERTY VALUES.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE, UH, COMMENTS.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, UM, QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF IF SHE WOULD REPEAT, UH, THE CHANGES THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ON, ON THIS, UH, THAT ARE NOT CONTAINED HERE.
UM, TWO CONDITION TO BE ADDED.
FIRST CONDITION ON THE FINAL PLAT SHOW AN EXISTING, SO THERE IS AN EXISTING 20 FOOT BUILDING LINE, PLATTED BUILDING LINE, SO THEY NEED TO SOW THE EXISTING 20 FOOT PLATTED BUILDING LINE ALONG WE HAVE AND DRIVE.
AND SECOND CONDITION IS ON THE FINAL PLAT SHOW, AN EXISTING 30 FOOT PLATE BUILDING LINE ALONG MYSTIC LANE LANE.
UM, ARE, UH, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE SPEAKER? SURE, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
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UM, YOU INDICATED THAT THERE'S, UH, OPPOSITION FROM YOU INDICATED, YOU INDICATED IN YOUR REMARKS THAT THERE'S OPPOSITION COM, UH, FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS TO THIS.UM, DO YOU, DO YOU UNDER, UH, WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH THE, ONCE THEY REPL THESE PROPERTIES, THAT THAT IS OBJECTIONABLE TO THE NEIGHBORS PUTTING IN SMALLER HOMES AND INCREASING THE TRAFFIC? WE ALREADY HAVE A DRAINAGE ISSUE OVER THERE, SO IT SOMETHING SMALLER.
IT, I DON'T HAVE PICTURES HERE TO SHOW YOU OF WHAT THE, THE LAND LOOKS LIKE, BUT THE HOUSES IN THAT AREA, UH, ARE LARGER HOMES.
IT'S A QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD, REALLY A RETIREMENT TYPE OF, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO WE ARE DEFINITELY OPPOSED TO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BRING IN MORE TRAFFIC, MORE NOISE, UM, NOT REALLY SEEING HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE.
AND IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM A SCHOOL.
SO PUTTING A HOME THERE ON THAT CORNER, I'M NOT REALLY SEEING VISUALLY HOW THEY
IT'S RIGHT AT THE ALLEY TO WHERE MY HOUSE IS.
IT'S ONE HOUSE IN BETWEEN US AND THE ALLEY AND IT, IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK FEASIBLE REALLY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HERE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? YES SIR.
AND UH, IF WE CAN GO THROUGH THE ATTACHMENT TO, WE CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SMALLER LOTS THAT ARE EVEN 11,000 SOMETHING SQUARE FEET WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS ABOUT 28,000 SQUARE FEET AND EACH OF THE LOTS WILL BE OVER 14,000 SQUARE FEET.
IS THERE ANY, ANYONE ELSE? DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REMARKS FOR NO, SIR.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANT? OKAY, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.
UM, MR. ESTA, I'D LIKE JUST GONNA ASK YOU A QUESTION.
UM, OFTENTIMES IN OUR CASE REPORT, UM, YOUR STAFF WILL NOTE THE SQUARE FOOTAGES OF SOME OF THE SURR PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THE APPLICATION.
SO, UM, WE JUST HEARD THAT THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF PROPERTIES MAYBE IN THE 11,000 SQUARE FOOT RANGE.
OUR APPLICATIONS HERE ARE FOR TWO AT 14.
CAN YOU JUST SORT OF CONFIRM THAT OR LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE SOME NOTES THERE? MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE
YEAH, 2060, PAGE 60, UH, LIKE WE ARE.
YES, SO WE DO HAVE VARIATION IN LOG PATTERNS.
SO YOU CAN SEE A RANGING FROM 11,000.
THERE ARE LIKE FEW, THREE, FOUR LOTS THERE ARE THAT ARE AROUND, UH, UH, AROUND 11,000 SQUARE FOOT.
AND THERE ARE SOME WITH 13,000, 14,000, UH, 15, 16, 21.
SO THERE IS A VARIATION IN THOSE LOT PATTERNS.
UH, IN, UH, ALONG THE, WE HAVE DRIVE AND BASICALLY THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO LOSS.
SO, UH, SINCE THERE IS NO VARIATION LOT PATTERN, THAT'S THE, UH, THAT'S THE REASON THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THIS REQUEST.
I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION, UM, BUT WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE LOT WIDTH.
UM, WE ONLY HAVE A HANDFUL ON THE PLAT THAT WAS BEFORE US, BUT DID STAFF DO AN EVALUATION OF THE, UM, WIDTH OF THE LOTS THAT ARE PROPOSED BECAUSE THEY APPEAR TO BE SMALLER EVEN THAN THE SMALLER LOT SIZES? YES, WE DID.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT LET ME PULL PLAT AND I CAN GO THROUGH IT AND THAT'S WHAT I, UM, WELL I'M ON THE LARGER, SO THE LAST PAGE OF THIS IN OUR DOCKET AND THESE TWO LOTS ARE SHOWN AS 50.14 AND 64.19.
AND THEN WHEN I GO TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF WE HAVEN DRIVE, THE TWO THAT WE CAN SEE ARE 86, 11 79, 11.
THERE'S A 77 FOOT ON THE PLAN SOUTH.
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UM, 90.1.YEAH, THERE IS ALSO VARIATION IN THE LOT WIDTH AS WELL.
SO RANGING FROM 77, 77 FEET, 79, 86 FEET, 90 FEET, 1 36 FEET.
SO IN THE ADJACENT AREAS THERE IS A VARIATION IN LOT WIDTH AS WELL.
AND THEN IS THE ORIENTATION CURRENTLY IN THE AREA? IT APPEARS THAT THE EXISTING LOT FRONTS ONTO MISTY GLEN LANE.
I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY, UH, WEE HAVEN AND MISTY GLEN LANE BUILDING LINE, BUT THIS WOULD CHANGE THE, UM, ORIENTATION OF THESE LOTS ONTO WE HAVEN.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, LOTS ALONG MISTY GLEN THAT WOULD HAVE THE SIDE YARD FRONTAGE? SO ON THESE, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, ALL THOSE LAWS YET.
PREVIOUSLY THIS LOT WAS FACING THE MYSTIC LANE, BUT SINCE THEY'RE TRYING TO DIVIDE INTO REQUESTING TO DIVIDE INTO TWO LAWS, NOW THOSE TWO LOTS WILL BE FACING THE WE HAVE AND DRIVE AND, UH, AND NONE OF THOSE LAWS, YES, NONE OF THOSE LOT DOES, UH, FACE, UH, WE HAVEN'T DRIVE.
SO THIS LOT WILL BE FACING, UH, THE REQUEST WILL BE FACING THE, WE HAVEN'T DRIVE LIKE THE OTHER LOTS ALONG, WE HAVEN'T DRIVE.
SO IF I LOOK AT THE AERIAL, IT APPEARS THAT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THE ALLEY IS THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN THE FRONTAGES.
SO IN EVERYTHING FACING ONTO WE HAVEN LANE IS ESSENTIALLY BRACKETED BY AN ALLEY.
THE PROPERTIES FRONTING ONTO MISTY GLENN, YOU KNOW, ARE SIMILAR, THAT THOSE ARE THEIR REAR YARDS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
I'M LIKE, THAT'S WHAT IT MM-HMM
UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, SEEING NONE, UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, CHAIRMAN, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN IN THE MATTER OF, UH, CASE S 2 4 5 DASH 1 3 4, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL, UH, MAY 8TH TO ALLOW FOR COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, I DON'T THINK WE'RE BEL WE'RE ALLOWED TO HOLD PLAT CASES.
THEY, UM, HAVE A STRICT TIMELINE PLACED ON THEM BY, UH, STATE LAW.
WOULD YOU PREFER SOMEONE ELSE TO MAKE A MOTION OR DO YOU WANNA RECONSIDER MR. CHAIRMAN IN THE, IN THE CASE OF, UH, S 2 45 DASH 1 34, I, UH, MOVE THAT WE, UH, DENY STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND MR. CHAIR IN ORDER TO, TO DENY A SUBDIVISION CASE, WE NEED A FINDING OF FACT AS TO WHAT PROVISION OF ARTICLE EIGHT OF CHAPTER 51 A THE PROPOSAL, UM, VIOLATES.
MR. FORSYTH, YOU WANT TO GIVE US A STATEMENT ON THAT? I, I WOULD SAY, SAY THAT THE REASON FOR DENYING THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE LOTS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT ARE GONNA RESULT DO, DO, DO NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING LAWS THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THAT? I'LL SECOND, BUT IS IT PRINT MR. HAMPTON? THAT'S REFERENCING SECTION 8.503 OF OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO IT'S, IS IT THE WIDTH, THE SIZE, THE, THE I I WOULD SAY THE WIDTH AND THE SIZE BOTH MS. MORRIS DID, DID WE CAPTURE WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE INTENT OF THE MOTION? THANK YOU.
AS WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR TO DENY THE APPLICATION, UH, ANY DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER, SLEEPER, UM, SINCE THIS IS A PLAT CASE AND WE HAVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL THAT THEY, THEY FIND THE, UM, THE APPLICATION TO BE APPROPRIATE.
I'M NOT SURE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO, UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, THAT, THAT I SEE A BASIS FOR US TO DENY THIS REQUEST.
SO I'M, I'M, I GUESS SPEAKING AGAINST THE MOTION FOR THAT REASON.
UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? THANK YOU.
I THINK PLAT CASES, PARTICULARLY ONES IN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS, ARE SOME OF THE MOST DIFFICULT ONES, UM, FOR ME TO REVIEW IN THIS CASE.
IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS A VERY STRONGLY ESTABLISHED PATTERN, BOTH
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IN TERMS OF THE ORIENTATION OF THE LOTS, WHICH IN MY MIND SPEAKS TO WHAT THE ESTABLISHED WIDTH AND THE, UM, FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE.AND WHILE THERE IS A VARIATION IN SIZES WITHIN THE LOT, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON BASED ON THE GYM GEOMETRY OF THE ROADWAYS FOR US TO SEE THAT TYPE OF VARIATION WITHIN THE LOTS, BUT STILL BE WITHIN A RANGE OF THE AREAS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED.
AND FOR THOSE REASONS, I WAS NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
ANY OTHER, UM, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
MY, MYSELF, UH, I I CAN'T TRACK THE, THE LOGIC ON THIS ONE.
IT'S FAR IN EXCESS OF THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY ZONING.
WE HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF VARIETY IN, UH, IN THE LOT CONFIGURATIONS AS HAVE BEEN POINTED OUT BY STAFF.
SO, UH, WE'VE, UH, DISCUSSED THIS TOPIC AT LENGTH FOR YEARS.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST NEED TO DO A RECORD VOTE.
I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THE SIMPLEST THING HERE, GIVEN WE GOT SOME PEOPLE ONLINE AND EVERYTHING.
DISTRICT SEVEN A DISTRICT EIGHT, AYE.
OKAY, SO, UH, THE MOTION PASSES, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
UM, ALL RIGHT, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.
[19. 25-1437A An application to replat a 1.0-acre (43,528-square foot) tract of land containing all of Lots 13 and 14 in City Block E/6855 to create four 10,882-square foot lots on property located on Veterans Drive, north of Talco Drive]
MS. ESTA NUMBER 19, ITEM NUMBER 19 S 2 45 DASH 1 36.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REPLY A ONE ONE ACRE THAT IS 43,528 SQUARE FOOT TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS 13 AND 14 IN CITY BLOCK E OVER 68 55 TO CREATE FOUR 10,882 SQUARE FOOT LOTS ON PROPERTY, LOCATED ON VETERANS DRIVE NORTH OF TELCO DRIVE.
24 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON APRIL 7TH, 2025.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? S 2 45 DASH 1 36.
UM, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT, SCENE NONE.
UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND THE MATTER OF S 2 45 DASH 1 36, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REPL CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
AND, UH, THANK YOU MR. COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR, UH, SECOND, UM, COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR? OH, COMMISSIONER SLEEPER.
DID I HEAR THAT CASE NUMBER? RIGHT? F UH, YOU SAID, UH, 2, 4, 5, 1, 3, 6 NUMBER 19.
I, I, I, I, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT I HEARD HIM SAY, UH, UH, 4, 3 6.
SO THIS IS 4, 3 7, RIGHT? OKAY.
I THINK WE'RE SQUARED AWAY THEN.
UH, MOTION PASSES, UM, COMMISSIONERS, UM, OUR ACTING CHAIR, UH, CHAIR, UH, RUBIN WILL BE BACK HERE IN A MOMENT.
UH, HE, HE SENDS ME A MESSAGE, SO MAYBE WE'LL TAKE A, A SHORT BREAK, UH, SAY A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND, UH, MAY MR. RUBIN CAN CONVENE US FOR THE FINAL TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON.
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ALL IT IS 1:59 PM AND, UH, THE MEETING OF DALLAS CITY COMMISSION IS COMING BACK TO ORDER.[20. 25-1441A A City Plan Commission authorized hearing to determine the proper zoning for the area to include but not limited to use, development standards, and other appropriate regulations in an area generally along both sides of Hampton Road, between Wentworth Street to the north and Brandon to the south and along both sides of West Clarendon Drive, between the alley parallel to Hampton Road and Marlborough Avenue and containing approximately 35 acres.]
YOU WANNA READ OUR NEXT CASE INTO THE RECORD IN HEARING? AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20, UH, 25 14 4 A, UH, THIS IS A CITY PLAN COMMISSION AUTHORIZED HEARING TO DETERMINE THE PROPER ZONING FOR THE AREA TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE USE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND OTHER APPROPRIATE REGULATIONS IN AN AREA GENERALLY ALONG BOTH SIDES OF HAMPTON ROAD, BETWEEN WENTWORTH STREET TO THE NORTH AND BRANDON TO THE SOUTH, AND ALONG BOTH SIDES OF WEST CLA AND DRIVE BETWEEN THE ALLEY PARALLEL TO HAMPTON ROAD AND MARLBOROUGH AVENUE AND CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 35 ACRES.STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE WM U THREE WALKABLE, URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT THREE AND THE SHOP FRONT OVERLY ON A PORTION.
UM, AND THIS IS CASE NUMBER Z 180 9 DASH 3 49.
UM, MR. PORSCHE, UH, WE'VE GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE SIGN UP TO SPEAK ONLINE, BUT WE WILL TAKE SPEAKERS WHO ARE IN THE ROOM FIRST, UM, STARTING OFF, IF THERE ANY SPEAKERS HERE IN SUPPORT.
ANY SPEAKERS HERE IN OPPOSITION? AND WE WILL DO, BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, WE WILL DO TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER.
CAN YOU TURN ON THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES.
UM, GOOD EVENING, CITY SUPPLY COMMISSIONER, CITY STAFF, NEIGHBORS.
MY NAME IS VIOLETA GUDO MONTEJANO.
I'M A RESIDENT OF LIB AND SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE WEST OC CLIFF AREA PLAN, ATTENDING MEETINGS, UH, REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTS AND LISTEN TO MY COMMUNITY.
FROM THE BEGINNING, THE CITY, UH, AND DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST TOLD US THAT THIS PLAN AND THE SUN CHANGES, IT INCLUDES WILL BRING WALKABILITY, BUT THAT'S MISLEADING.
SUN CHANGES, DON'T BUILD SIDEWALKS, IMPROVE LIGHTING OR MAKE STREET SAFER.
WALKABILITY NEEDS INVESTMENT, NOT JUST RESING.
WHAT THESE SUN EXCHANGES DO IS ALLOW MORE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO HOUSES, STACK UNITS AND APARTMENTS.
AND FROM, WE ALREADY SEEN ALL OVER OAK CLIFF, WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING.
EXPENSIVE LUXURY HOUSING THAT DOES NOT MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE.
THESE CHANGES INVITE THE DEVELOPERS LOOKING FOR PROFIT, NOT JUST LOOKING FOR BUILD COMMUNITY OR LATINO COMMUNITY HAS ALREADY BEEN HIT HARD BY COVID, BY POLITICS, AND BY GENTRIFICATION.
AND STILL THE CITY HAS NO REAL PROTECTIONS IN PLACE TO PREVENT DISPLACEMENT ON FAMILY OR SMALL BUSINESSES.
A NEIGHBOR TOLD ME THAT THEY HOPE TO LEAVE THEIR HOME TO THE CHILDREN, BUT IF TAXES RISE BECAUSE OF REZONING, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO STAY TO STAY, LET ALONE PASS IT ON.
THAT'S NOT PROGRESS, THAT'S A LOSS.
AND, AND LET'S BE CLEAR, THIS COMMUNITY SPOKE LOUD AND CLEAR OF THOSE WHO RESPONDED TO THE CITY.
UH, THAT'S THE OFFICIAL LETTER.
OPPOSE THESE CHANGES OVER 1000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE OR WORK NEARBY, SIGN A PETITION TO STOP THEM.
UH, IT'S TIME TO THE CITY TO STOP TREATING US OR NEIGHBOR LIKE AN EXPERIMENT.
IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY TO STOP TREATING OUR COMMUNITY LIKE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
START WORKING FOR US AND WITH US.
MY NAME IS, UH, GERARDO FIGUEROA, 2220 WEST CLARINET DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
UH, DURING THE BRIEFING EARLIER, STAFF SPOKE OF, UH, THE EDGEFIELD CLARETT AUTHORIZED HEARING.
HE NOTED THAT AT EVERY SINGLE MEETING THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT PUSHBACK AND OPPOSITION FROM THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS FROM COMMUNITY LEADERS.
THE SAME OPPOSITION HE SPOKE ABOUT IN THE AUTHORIZED HEARING IS THE SAME BUT STRONGER FOR HAMPTON AND CLARINET.
WE HAVE COLLECTED OVER 1,192 SIGNATURES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED IN AN EMAIL YESTERDAY.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS,
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63 TO BE EXACT, HAVE SENT IN THEIR BLUE LETTERS IN OPPOSITION.THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE LETTER SENT IN FROM THE HOMES WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAMPTON HILLS 15 OPPOSED.
SIX IN FAVOR, EAST HAMPTON HILLS, THREE OPPOSED.
ZERO IN FAVOR, SUNSET HILLS, 20 OPPOSED FIVE IN FAVOR, KESSER PLAZA.
TWO IN FAVOR, NORTH CLIFF NINE OPPOSED.
ONE IN FAVOR AT EVERY MEETING.
THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN OUT AGAINST THIS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY IS NOT LISTENING OR THEY DO NOT CARE TO CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
THIS WOULD NOT ALIGN WITH THE DESIRE OF THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU ALL SHOULD VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TODAY.
GIVEN THE COLLECTIVE OPPOSITION FROM THOSE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE REZONING LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY, WE STRONGLY URGE YOU TO DENY THE PROPOSED REZONING.
I HAVE TWO HANDOUTS AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU GIVE THOSE TO US, WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM AS PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD.
I'M YOLANDA LA I RESIDE AT 1607 SOUTH TYLER DALLAS, 7 5 2 2 4.
I LIVE 1.4 MILES FROM THE PROPOSED REZONING AREA, AND I'M IN OPPOSITION.
THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ON THE CPC AT THE TIME MAY REMEMBER THAT THE WCAP PROCESS FACED SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION AND IT WAS ONLY AFTER A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS THAT A PLAN WAS FORWARDED AND PASSED.
THE COMMUNITY WAS ASSURED THAT WHEN IT CAME TO AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, THE ONGOING CONCERNS COULD BE CONSIDERED AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE CENTRAL TO THE DECISION PROCESS.
BUT AS YOU'VE BEEN HEARING, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
THE THE CONCERNS HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED AND THE COMMUNITY IS IN OPPOSITION AND THE OPPOSITION IS COMING FROM WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE REZONING.
UM, THE MAP IS A ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD, RIGHT? 62 PEOPLE OPPOSED.
THE MAP IS TO SHOW YOU THAT, AND I ALSO SENT YOU THE LINK.
IT'S A LITTLE BETTER, BUT THE MAP WILL SHOW YOU THAT THIS IS NOT JUST ONE AREA OR A FEW PEOPLE, BUT THROUGHOUT THE REZONE AREA, PEOPLE ARE IN OPPOSITION MORE THAN THEY ARE IN FAVOR.
I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT TWO SUNSET HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WENT TO GREAT EXTENT TO DO A SURVEY TO GET FEEDBACK.
THEY GOT 28 RESPONSES AND THEY SHARED WITH ME THAT 58% WERE GEN, GENERALLY OPPOSED, STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEY SENT A LETTER TO COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK AND OUR COUNCIL MEMBER EXPRESSING THAT, UM, SENTIMENT AND BEING NEUTRAL IN THIS CASE.
I'VE SHARED THE LETTER WITH YOU JUST IN CASE.
UM, WHEN YOU VOTE TODAY, IT'LL BE A SIMPLE MAJORITY.
IF THAT'S THE CASE FOR THE COMMUNITY, THEN THE MAJORITY HAS SPOKEN AND THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION.
WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S AT STAKE IN OUR CURRENT GLOBAL, NATIONAL AND GROWING EVERYDAY LOCAL CLIMATE.
A CLIMATE THAT TAKES DIRECT AND INTENTIONAL STEPS TO FOSTER DISPLACEMENT OF THE OTHER.
NOW MORE THAN EVER, WHAT'S AT STAKE IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF COMMUNITY DIGNITY, SELF-DETERMINATION AND RESPECT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
HOW DID I GET THE SLIDES OUT AND HOW'D THEY GO UP AND DOWN? UH, USE THE ARROW KEYS, THESE TWO.
ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY ADDRESS IS 1620 HANLEY DRIVE DALLAS.
UH, YOU SEE A, A MAP OF THE, OF THE AREA WHICH YOU'RE CONSIDERING TODAY.
AT THE TOP OF THE MAP YOU'LL SEE A RED AREA THAT'S BASICALLY DUE ACROSS THE STREET EAST OF OUR PROPERTY.
OUR PROPERTY IS IMMEDIATELY WEST OR ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE STREET, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT LARGE RED AREA, WHICH WILL BE LEFT AS CR THE LITTLE, THERE'S A LITTLE PIECE ON THE CORNER THAT'S NOT OURS.
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PROPERTY WRAPS AROUND THAT CORNER PROPERTY.THIS IS OUR PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED WITH A LITTLE RED LINE.
THERE'S A, A SOCCER FIELD ON THEIR WEST, DISD.
THERE'S A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO OUR SOUTH.
THERE'S A TOM THUMB STORE TO OUR NORTH.
THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST, WHICH WE JUST SHOWED AS A RED AREA, IS BEING LEFT AS CR COMMUNITY RETAIL ZONING.
THIS IS OUR PROPERTY ON FACING HAMPTON TODAY, FACING HAMPTON.
IT'S BASICALLY AUTO RE AUTO REPAIR TYPE BUSINESSES.
THIS IS THE HARD CORNER, UH, PROPERTY THAT THE CHIROPRACTOR SAID ON THE HARD CORNER.
THIS IS OUR PROPERTY FACING 12TH STREET.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, WHEN YOU CHANGE THIS TO, TO A FORM-BASED ZONING, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS.
THE FIRST ONE IS THAT 70% OF THE FRONTAGE OF YOUR, YOUR STREET MUST BE BUILDING THE BALANCES AVAILABLE FOR YOUR PARKING, FOR YOUR DRIVEWAY.
OUR DRIVEWAYS ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH TO MEET CODE AND USE THE PROPERTY.
SO THE, THE NEGATIVE, IF YOU WILL, OF THIS FOR THE FORM-BASED IS NOT THE USES, BUT THE, THE REQUIREMENTS THAT REQUIRE YOU TO PUT THE BUILDING IN THE FRONT AND STRETCHED OUT ACROSS YOUR PROPERTY.
IT MAKES OUR PROPERTY IMPRACTICAL TO USE ON, ON EITHER ONE OF THESE TWO STREETS.
THERE'S OUR PROPERTY AGAIN, WE JUST SIMPLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO USE OUR PROPERTY.
IF FOR, IF, IF, IF THE ISSUE IS TO CHANGE, TO ADD MORE USES A MIXED USE, ONE DISTRICT WOULD DO THAT.
IT WOULD ADD RESIDENTIAL TO THE MIX, PLUS ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO USE IT AS IS OR OTHER TYPE RETAIL USES WITHOUT THE BURDEN OF THE FORM-BASED REQUIREMENTS OF 70% FRONT.
NOT NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR DRIVEWAYS.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, ON HERE BEHALF ON THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER THAT PETER WAS TALKING ABOUT.
IF YOU PREFER, UM, THAT MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY CONTINUE TO LOOK AS IT DOES RIGHT NOW, THEN YOU WOULD VOTE TO ALLOW THIS REZONING.
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO SELL THIS PROPERTY IN ORDER TO UPGRADE IT AND WE'VE GOT NO COMMERCIAL INTEREST WITH THE WMU THREE HANGING OVER IT.
ONE NODE, UM, BUYER THAT WE'VE TALKED TO SEES THIS AS AN AREA FOR WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S NOT THE HOUSING DENSITY THAT'S NEEDED.
WE'VE GOT A SIX LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY THAT HAS MORE THAN 30,000 CARS A DAY GOING BY IT.
WE'VE GOT A FOUR LANE UNDIVIDED ON 12 THAT RUNS INTO IT THAT SEES MORE THAN 12,000 CARS A DAY.
UM, AND THE USES THAT ARE AROUND US ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH WALKABILITY, A SCHOOL, UH, ATHLETIC FIELD AND ACROSS THE STREET.
THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IT CONTINUE TO BE A STRIP CENTER WITH A LARGE PARKING LOT IN FRONT OF IT.
AND TO OUR NORTH OF TOM THUMB WITH ANOTHER LARGE PARKING LOT.
THIS IS JUST NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE FOUND ANY INTEREST.
AND TO TOP IT OFF, AS PETER MENTIONED, UM, BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF WMU THREE, WE WOULD HAVE EXACTLY SEVEN FEET LEFT ON HAMPTON FOR A DRIVEWAY AND ABOUT EIGHT FEET OFF OF 12TH FOR A DRIVEWAY.
UH, IF WE MEET ALL THE CITY REQUIREMENTS FOR A DRIVEWAY AND THAT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WE'VE GOTTA HAVE FOR A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, A COMMERCIAL USE A 24 FOOT TWO-WAY DRIVE.
THAT'S A CITY REQUIREMENT IN THE, UM, CITY'S, UM, STEEP STREET PROCESS MANUAL FROM SEPTEMBER, 2019.
FINALLY, UM, PUTTING US INTO M-W-W-M-U THREE WHILE THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET ARE LEFT WITH CR IS JUST INCONSISTENT.
I CAN'T RECONCILE WHY THE PLAN COMMISSION WOULD AGREE ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET TO KEEP CR AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET ON A VERY NARROW ISLAND.
THAT YOUR TIME TO MAKE WM U THREE.
I URGE YOU NOT TO REZONE THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, WM U THREE.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? SIR, ARE YOU HERE TO COMMISSIONERS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE AS ALWAYS.
I LIVE TWO BLOCKS UP ONE 10 NORTH HAMPTON.
I'M A PASTOR ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND I SPOKE WITH YOU LAST TIME ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WALKABILITY.
UH, I HEAR WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN JUST SAID.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE HE IS COMING FROM.
I WOULD DISAGREE THAT A SCHOOL ISN'T WALKABLE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT THE IDEA THAT I CAN'T ADVOCATE FOR A SCHOOL TO BE WALKABLE IS, IS NONSENSICAL.
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TO SAY THAT WE CANNOT ADVOCATE FOR SAFER WALKABILITY FOR THE CHILDREN WHO ATTEND IDAHO ELEMENTARY.I'M MAD AT THE IDEA THAT WE ARE IN SUCH A HURRY THAT IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THIS THOROUGHFARE THAT WE CAN'T PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.
SOUNDS A LOT LIKE WHO'S IN THE WHITE HOUSE, BUT THAT'S AN ASIDE.
NOW I'M SHOWING MY CARDS A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO PROTECT OUR KIDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO PROTECT THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE.
AND I HEARD EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAID ABOUT THOSE THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION.
I'VE SEEN A RESIDENT WHO STAYS IN EAST HAMPTON HILLS.
SHE CAME AND SHE WAS ASKING HER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IF THE BLUE LETTER MEANT THAT THE CITY WAS TRYING TO TAKE HER HOUSE FROM HER.
AND I JUST SAID, NO, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THIS BLUE LETTER.
MY CONCERN IS THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN TRANSPARENCY ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS AND THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY USE OF DISINFORMATION.
I'VE SEEN, UH, THE, THE SIGNATURE LETTER, THE PETITION, UM, USED AND PETITIONED AS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE BETTER SIDEWALKS IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAN SIGN THIS? I'VE SEEN THAT IN THE CORRIDOR.
THAT DOESN'T REFLECT YOU GUYS, BUT TELL THE TRUTH THAT HAS HAPPENED.
I WENT TO, UH, AN EVENT AND THERE WAS NO REAL DISCUSSION ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING, WHAT WAS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR.
WHEN I HAVE TALKED WITH RESIDENTS AND I'VE ANSWERED THEIR QUESTIONS, THEY SEEM TO BE YOUR TIME CALMED.
I WAS TURNED UP ABOUT THE KID COMMENT.
ONCE AGAIN, GUYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
ALRIGHT, UH, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE IN PERSON WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM AT Z 180 9 3 49.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL GO TO OUR ONLINE SPEAKERS.
UM, WE'LL START WITH THOSE IN SUPPORT.
I THINK MR. SEARS CAME IN PERSON.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE WILL GO TO THE TOP OF OUR LIST.
UM, FESTUS GON OH, SORRY, THAT WAS 18.
LEMME KNOW IF, IF YOU TURN ON, CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR CAMERA, MR. MATA, PLEASE? YES, SIR.
I LIVE AT 1 0 1 WEST DAVIS STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS.
AND I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, BEING PUT FORWARD BY CITY STAFF.
UM, AND I'M ADVOCATING THAT EVENTUALLY WE DE AUTHORIZE THIS CASE.
I'M AGAINST THIS RECOMME, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE THE SIZE OF THE AREA, I THINK THE SIZE OF THE AREA IS TOO LARGE.
CAN YOU TURN IT? THERE IT GOES.
CAN YOU SEE ME AGAIN? WELL, IT'S JUST, OKAY.
UH, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? SORRY, CAN YOU STILL SEE ME? YEP, WE CAN SEE YOU NOW.
SO I BELIEVE THE SIZE OF THE AREA IS TOO LARGE.
I BELIEVE IT IS A SIGNIFICANT MARKET SIGNAL TO INVESTORS THAT SAYS, HEY, COME AND REDEVELOP ME.
I THINK THAT'LL INCREASE DISPLACEMENT PRESSURE ON SURROUNDING RESIDENTS AND ACCELERATE GENTRIFICATION IN AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY VULNERABLE, AN AREA THAT IS LACKING PROTECTIVE OVERLAYS TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
ADDITIONALLY, PAGE 97 OF THE WCAP PLAN RECOMMENDS SMALL MULTIFAMILY, UH, DEVELOPMENTS UP TO 12 UNITS OR SMALLER.
I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY TOOL THAT THE CITY HAS TO HONOR THIS RECOMMENDATION AND COMMITMENT THAT'S IN THE WELL CAP PLAN.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE SHOULD NOT CHANGE THE ZONING AS IT WOULD NOT COMPLY WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE AREA PLAN.
FURTHERMORE, I HAVE ATTENDED ALL THESE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS AND NOT IN ANY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WAS THERE ANY CONSENSUS REACHED BY ANY OF THE ATTENDINGS.
IN FACT, IN TWO OUT OF THREE, THERE WAS OVERWHELMING, UM, OPPOSITION.
AND FINALLY, I BELIEVE THIS ZONING IS TOO GENEROUS AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF WE THE CITY WAR, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME SORT OF WME THREE THAT WE ADD OVERLAYS AND MIX OVERLAYS IF POSSIBLE.
UM, ADD AREAS WHERE WE HAVE SHOPFRONT OVERLAYS AND ADD AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A HIGH OVERLAY.
THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE RECOMMENDED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, AND I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, INCORPORATED, UH, TO A LARGER EXTENT IN THE EXISTING RECOMMENDATIONS OVER OVERALL I AM AGAINST THE COMMUNITY IS OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST.
AND I ASK THAT, UH, THIS BOARD AND THIS BODY VOTE AGAINST THIS AS WELL.
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UM, ARIANA SUNGA LINE, UM, BILLY RUN ONLINE.CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON PLEASE? CAN YOU SEE ME? WE CAN'T SEE YOU JUST YET.
I LIVE IN 4 0 5 WEST BROOKLYN AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS 75 2 0 8, AND I OPPOSE THE HAMPTON CLA AND ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE THIS WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE AND DETRIMENTAL IMPACT TO THE HISPANIC CULTURAL FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS ZONING CHANGE WILL INCREASE THE RISK OF DISPLACEMENT FOR MANY RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN POVERTY.
THIS ZONING CHANGE WILL ACCELERATE GENTRIFICATION AND IT WILL INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES.
THE NEW LITTLE MEXICO ARE THE OAK CLIFF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SURROUND HAMPTON AND CLARINET.
AS YOU KNOW, LITTLE MEXICO WAS A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, DESTROYED OVER DECADES OF URBAN RENEWAL.
THIS ZONING CHANGE IS AN ILLUSTRATION OF URBAN RENEWAL, BUT THIS TIME OUR MEXICAN COMMUNITY WILL NOT FACE THE SAME CONSEQUENCES.
WE WILL NOT ALLOW CHAD WEST AND HIS DEVELOPER FRANCE TO UP ZONE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE NAME OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AN ECONOMY OF HISPANIC BUSINESSES ALREADY EXIST THROUGHOUT HAMPTON CLARINET AND THEY'RE FLOURISHING WITHOUT DEVELOPERS AND POLITICIANS LIKE CHAD WEST.
THIS ZONING CHANGE WILL DESTROY OUR HISPANIC BUSINESSES, THAT'S A DAYCARE IN THE MAKING AND REPLACE IT WITH MILLION DOLLAR TOWN HALLS, EXPENSIVE LUXURY APARTMENTS AND SHOP FRONT ORDER DAYS THAT OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT.
UM, CORINA ARIANO, UH, CARLOS RIVERA.
CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR SCREEN, PLEASE? THERE WE GO.
UH, MY NAME IS CAROL RIVERA AND I OWN THE PROPERTY 2126 WEST CLA DRIVE.
AND I AM OPPOSED TO THE SONY BECAUSE IT'S NOT REFLECTING HELP FOR THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.
DANIEL VALDEZ OR DANNY VALDEZ? THERE ARE TWO.
UH, MR. FIGUEROA HAS SPOKEN IN PERSON ALREADY.
ALRIGHT, HERE, CAN YOU TURN YOUR CAMERA ON, PLEASE? ALL RIGHT.
UM, MY NAME IS JANET AVILA AND I AM A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER LOCATED AT 1003 SOUTH HAMPTON ROAD.
AND I AM OPPOSED TO THIS REZONING, UM, MAINLY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT GO WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY ALREADY IS AND HOW IT WORKS.
CAN YOU ALL SEE AND HEAR ME? I, YES, WE CAN.
UH, MY NAME IS JENNIFER ANHILL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ROYAL PLANNING, A LOCAL NONPROFIT THAT WORKS WITH COMMUNITIES TO UPLIFT ENVIRONMENTAL HOUSING AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE.
AND FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH VARIOUS BUSINESS OWNERS, BUT ALSO RESIDENTS IN THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR VOICES INCLUDED WHEN ISSUES SUCH AS WCAP OR EVEN THIS REZONING IS BROUGHT FORWARD IN DISCUSSION.
I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HIGHLIGHT ABOUT, UH, RAO'S APPROACH.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN GROUNDED IN COMMUNITY.
THE FOLKS WHO ARE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE INTERACT WITH FIRST.
WE'VE HOSTED SEVERAL EVENTS, SOME
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OF THEM THAT WERE ALLUDED TO TODAY.UM, BY THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, WE HOSTED ADA, TWO OF THEM SPECIFICALLY AS A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT HEY, SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GO TO LECTURE STYLE EVENTS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL HOST.
BUT WE'RE ABLE TO MEET THE COMMUNITY BY HOSTING EVENTS DURING THE WEEKDAYS AND IN A MUCH MORE INFORMAL WAY, WHERE WE'VE ALWAYS PROVIDED INFORMATION ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IS ZONING? RIGHT? HOW CAN YOU ASK SOMEONE ABOUT THEIR OPINION ON THE SUBJECT THAT'S VERY TECHNICAL IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION SO THEY CAN MAKE A, UH, DECISION THAT'S ROOTED IN UNDERSTANDING.
AND AT THESE TWO ADA, WE BLOCK WALKED 800 HOMES MINIMUM, SOMETIMES HITTING UP TO A THOUSAND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE COULD JOIN US.
AND AT THESE EVENTS, WHAT WE DID, WE HAD FREE FOOD.
IT WAS, UH, FRIENDLY FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR FAMILIES TO COME AND SIT DOWN, BREAK BREAD, BUT ALSO GET A CHANCE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE SUBJECT.
AND AS WELL HEAR FROM THEIR PILLAR OF FELLOW PEERS OF, HEY, WE ARE IN OPPOSITION AND THIS IS WHY.
BUT THE RESOUNDING MESSAGE IS ALWAYS, LOOK, THIS IS THE POSITION.
AND IF YOU SAY NO, WELL THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY THE COMMUNITY'S IN OPPOSITION, WHICH IS PRIMARILY THE DISPLACEMENT CONCERNS.
WE ALSO DID SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR.
UH, JOANNA AGA, JOSE SANCHEZ, JOSEPH LOPEZ, JUDITH AGA, KAREN LOPEZ, LORENZA.
LORENA LORENZA HINOJOSA, LUCIA CONTRERAS, LUCY BOCANEGRA, LUIS MARIA RODRIGUEZ.
MARIA AGA, NICOLA HERNANDEZ, ROBERTO GOMEZ, SOPHIA SANCHEZ.
AND IF YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR CAMERA, PLEASE.
UH, MY NAME IS VANESSA SALANA.
I'M A BUSINESS OWNER HERE ON HAMPTON AND CLAREDON.
UM, I AM OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED REZONING BECAUSE I DO FEEL THAT IT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN TRYING TO SAY FOR MANY MONTHS.
UM, I'VE SEEN THE BLOCK WALKING, I'VE ATTENDED THE EVENTS.
I HAVE, UH, SEEN EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS DONE TO INFORM AND INVOLVE EVERYBODY THAT THIS WOULD BE AFFECTED TO.
UM, MAJORITY THAT I'VE ALWAYS HEARD IS THAT THEY ARE AGAINST THIS FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.
UM, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, I KNOW THIS WOULD GREATLY AFFECT ME, BUT SO MANY OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 10, 20, 30 YEARS LONGER THAN I HAVE.
UM, I HOPE THAT TODAY AFTER HEARING EVERYBODY SPEAK, THAT UH, THE CITY LISTENS AND UNDERSTANDS WHERE EACH AND EVERY PERSON IS COMING FROM.
AND I DO HOPE THAT YOU'LL VOTE AGAINST US.
UH, VICTORIA, PHARRELL ORTIZ, VIOLETA RIVERA.
VIOLETA, GARO, MONTEJANO SPOKEN PERSON.
UH, IF YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
CAN YOU SEE ME? OH, THERE I AM.
MY NAME IS YOLANDA VILLA LOVO, AND MY ADDRESS IS 36 30.
I OPPOSE THIS RECOMMENDED REZONING.
THE OVERALL COMMUNITY HAS STATED THEY ARE NOT IN FAVOR, AND THESE ZONING CHANGES DO NOT ALIGN WITH THE COMMUNITY'S WANTS AND NEEDS.
THEY HAVE COLLECTED WELL INTO THOUSANDS OF SIGNATURES OPPOSED TO THIS CHANGE.
AND AT EVERY SINGLE MEETING THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS HAD THE CONSENSUS WAS THE SAME.
PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME AND LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
PLEASE DON'T JUST BRUSH THEM OFF AS, AS IF YOU KNOW BETTER THAN WHAT THEY WANT.
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TO SELF DETERMINE THEIR FUTURE.YOU SEE IT AROUND DALLAS MORE AND MORE, MORE HOUSING, MORE APARTMENTS, BUT NOT FOR US, NOT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THEIR LIVES HERE.
PLEASE LISTEN TO US, THE COMMUNITY.
UM, LAST NAME ON THE ONLINE SPEAKERS LIST.
HI, MY NAME IS, UH, AUSTIN HOLMES.
ARE Y'ALL ABLE TO HEAR ME OKAY? OKAY.
UM, SO MY NAME'S AUSTIN HOLMES.
I'M A, UH, I, I LIVE IN THE AREA.
I LIVE AT, UH, 27 42 WEST 12TH STREET.
I'M RATHER THAN OFF 12TH STREET.
UM, I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, ADMITTEDLY I HAVEN'T LIVED THERE FOREVER.
UM, AND SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT ARE RAISED, UM, SEEM TO BE VERY VALID.
UM, AND IT SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
UH, WHAT I DO KNOW ABOUT IS MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I WORK IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONALLY.
UM, AND THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO SHARE IS JUST, YOU KNOW, I HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THIS ZONING MOVE FORWARD AND SHOULD THIS, SHOULD THIS GO GO FORWARD? UM, MY MAIN POSITION WAS REALLY JUST THAT, UH, LOOKING AT THE PARCELS THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED, UH, THE SPECIFIC PARCELS THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED BY POTENTIALLY THE ZONING CHANGE.
UM, IT DOES NOT SEEM FEASIBLE TO ME THAT THESE VERY LARGE APARTMENT COMMUNITIES COULD EVEN PHYSICALLY BE BUILT ON SEVERAL OF THESE PARCELS.
UM, AND SO FOR, FOR THAT REASON, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, SHARE THAT AS A PERSON WHO LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT WERE RAISED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE, HOW ARE WE GONNA STOP, YOU KNOW, THE 200 UNIT APARTMENTS OR THESE SORTS OF THINGS, WHAT MECHANISM IS AVAILABLE TO STOP THAT? UM, AND WHAT I MOSTLY WANTED TO JUST SHARE WAS THAT THE MECHANISM THAT'S GONNA STOP THAT I BELIEVE IS THE, IS THE SIZE AND THE, THE STRUCTURE OF THESE, UH, OF THESE LAND PARCELS THEMSELVES.
UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'LL BE CON CONDUCIVE TO THAT VERY HIGH END DENSE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT WAS, UH, THE, THE MAIN THING THAT I, THAT I WANTED TO SHARE, UM, BUT DEFINITELY, UM, INTERESTED IS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT, UH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
UM, AND I'D LOVE TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THAT, THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND LEARN MORE ABOUT, UH, ABOUT THE CONCERNS.
BUT I JUST SIMPLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT DENSE MULTIFAMILY IS, IS ON THE WAY AS A RESULT OF THIS ZONING DUE TO THE IMPR, THE PHYSICAL IMPRACTICALITY OF, OF THAT GIVEN THE PARCELS.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, WE WILL GO TO QUESTIONS FOR OUR, UM, SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT, QUESTIONS FOR SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, MA'AM.
UM, GIVEN THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE DOCKET THAT IS SUGGESTING, YOU KNOW, DE AUTHORIZING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR LACK OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT, I'M A LITTLE, UH, I'D LIKE AN EXPLANATION OF WHY THE STAFF IS PUSHING FOR THIS ADOPTION OF THE, UH, MIXED USE ZONING IN THE FACE OF A FAIRLY EVIDENT LACK OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS HAS BEEN CONSISTENT THAT I HAVE HEARD SINCE THE VERY FIRST MEETINGS THAT WE HAD AT CLUB.
WELL, THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS CASE AND THE ONE NEXT ON THE LIST, UH, CLATON EDGEFIELD IS, UM, THE SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION, ALTHOUGH IT DOES SEEM LARGELY IN FAVOR OF THE OPPOSITION.
UH, WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS, PHONE CALLS BEHIND, UH, THE SCENES AND AFTER OUR MEETINGS IN SUPPORT.
AND WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT DURING CLAIRTON EDGEFIELD, UM, IT, IT FELT MUCH MORE UNANIMOUS AS OPPOSED TO THIS ONE.
UM, SPECIFICALLY, UM, WE WOULD RECEIVE CALLS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, SINGLE FAMILY AND BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL AFTER SOME OF OUR MEETINGS.
AND, AND THEY WOULD TELL US, HEY, UM, WE SUPPORT WHAT YOU ALL ARE, ARE PROPOSING.
WE JUST FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE STATING IT VOCALLY BECAUSE SOME OF OUR MEETINGS DID GET A LITTLE, UM, CONTENTIOUS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT, AND I DID JUST WANNA COMMENT A LITTLE JUST TO CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT.
UM, ANDREA GILLIS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, UM, THE RATIONALE FOR THE DEAUTHORIZATION OF THE ITEM O THE OTHER ITEM WASN'T LARGELY BASED ON LACK OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
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HAVE PROPERTY OWNER CHAMPIONS, AND IT'S A MUCH SMALLER AREA.AND I THINK WHAT SOME OF THE, WHAT CAME OUT OF THE, THE EARLIER BRIEFING IS THERE WAS SWITCHING OF, UM, PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, A LOT MORE SWITCHING OF PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IN THAT SMALLER AUTHORIZED HEARING AREA FROM THE TIME WHEN IT WAS AUTHORIZED TO TODAY.
SO THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND ALSO IN THIS ONE, WE HEARD A LOT MORE ABOUT CONCERNS OF SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH OFTEN IS TIED MUCH MORE CLOSELY TO THE ZONING.
UM, AND IT SOMETIMES MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN IF WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T SET OURSELVES UP FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, I DIDN'T WANNA GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THE SOLE REASON FOR THE DEAUTHORIZATION WAS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
IF YOU FOLLOW UP, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
GIVEN THE NATURE OF, YOU KNOW, HAMPTON ROAD AND THE HIGH, UH, TRAFFIC COUNTS ON THE STREET AND THE NATURE OF THE LARGELY, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT, UM, STRETCH OF THE CORRIDOR, I, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, FORM-BASED ZONING.
UM, IF, IF, IF SOMEONE ON STAFF COULD, COULD CLARIFY THEIR VISION, BECAUSE I, I'M HAVING TROUBLE, UM, FIGURING OUT HOW IT'S GOING TO MOVE TO A MORE WALKABLE MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, A A RELATIVELY SMALL STRETCH OF A, OF A LARGE, YOU KNOW, HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME CORRIDOR.
AND ALSO THE RELATED ISSUE OF, OF POTENTIALLY LOSING, UM, PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED FOR RETAIL IN AN AREA THAT IS, YOU KNOW, FAIRLY LARGELY UNDER RETAILED.
SO THE, UM, THE VISION BEHIND THE, UH, PROPOSAL FOR, UH, MIXED USE WALKABLE IS DIRECTLY FROM THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN, UM, VERBATIM.
UM, AND SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UM, IS, UH, PRETTY MUCH PULLED FROM THAT, UH, GIVE OR TAKE A FEW TWEAKS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDED TO MAKE AS A RESULT OF MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, AND OVER THE IDEA IS TO IMPLEMENT DESIGN STANDARDS AND DESIGN GUIDELINES SO THAT IF THE AREA WHICH IS FACING SOME PRESSURE DECIDES TO GO OVER, UH, AND REDEVELOP OVER TIME, UM, IT PROVIDES MORE PREDICTABILITY, UH, MORE WALKABLE, UH, URBAN CORRIDOR FOR THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, AND POTENTIALLY FUTURE RESIDENCES TO, UH, ENJOY.
GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN GENERALLY, UM, IS PROMOTING WALKABLE MIXED USE, UM, DEVELOPMENT, UM, SHOULD NOT THE RECOMMENDATIONS BE CONTEXT SENSITIVE FOR PARTICULAR, UM, CORRIDORS OR REGIONS OR STRETCHES? UH, COULD, COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN BY TIC SENSITIVE? WELL, I MEAN, EVEN IF AN AREA OF TOWN IS GENERALLY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE, UH, CONCEIVED TO GO IN A, A WALKABLE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AREN'T THERE AREAS, YOU KNOW, STREETS AND SUCH THAT ARE NOT, SO, FOR EXAMPLE, NEXT TO A FREEWAY IS NOT NE I MEAN, WE CONSIDER THE CONTEXT, RIGHT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, MY LOOK AT, I MEAN, HAMPTON ROAD IS, IS SOMETHING I TRAVEL EVERY DAY.
UM, I, I'M JUST HAVING REAL DIFFICULTY, UM, VISUALIZING HOW THIS STRETCH OF HAMPTON ROAD IS EVER GOING TO BE A WALKABLE MIXED USE ENVIRONMENT.
AND YOU KNOW, THEN WHEN WE ADD IN THE COMPLEXITY THAT VARIOUS PROPERTY MEMBERS HAVE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BROUGHT UP THE, UH, THE IMPRACTICALITY OF APPLYING THE, UM, REQUIREMENTS IN FORM-BASED ZONING THAT CERTAIN PERCENTAGES OF FAC FACADES BE UP AT THE STREET, YOU KNOW, LEAVING THEIR, UH, PROPERTIES, UH, FUNCTIONALLY UNUSABLE.
UM, I I, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW APPLYING WALKABLE MIXED USE TO CERTAIN OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY CR AND ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM CR, HOW THAT'S GOING TO, UM, RESULT IN, IN SOMETHING THAT IS WALKABLE MIXED USE? WELL, THE BASIC COMPONENTS OF THE WMU THREE, UM, THE IDEA IS TO BRING BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE STREET, UM, TO FOSTER WATER SIDEWALKS, UM, MORE LANDSCAPING TO PRODUCE A, A MORE SAFER, UH, ENVIRONMENT
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FOR WALKABILITY.UM, AND, AND THAT'S, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT IS OUTLINED WITHIN THAT PLAN.
AS IT PERTAINS TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT CONTEXT, UM, THIS SPECIFIC AREA WAS LAID OUT, UM, SPECIFICALLY IN THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN.
AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SPECIFICALLY, UM, PUT TOGETHER FOR THIS SPECIFIC AREA.
UM, AND, AND SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR CONTEXT QUESTION ABOUT WHY STAFF WENT WITH OUR SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION.
JP, COULD YOU ALSO TOUCH UPON, UM, I THINK COMMISSIONER CARPENTER JUST BOUGHT UP THAT PROPERTY THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER SAID WOULD BE UNDEVELOPABLE UNDER WMU THREE.
COULD YOU BRING UP A LITTLE BIT? 'CAUSE YOU DID SOME ANALYSIS ON THAT? YEAH, SO, UM, DURING THE LAST HEARING, UM, STAFF WAS ASKED TO, UM, JUST TAKE A GLANCE AND LOOK AND, AND OBSERVE THE LANDSCAPE AND SEE HOW MANY PROPERTIES TODAY WERE NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURALLY.
AND WHAT WE DISCOVERED WAS A LITTLE OVER HALF OF THEM CURRENTLY TODAY HAVE A NON-CONFORMITY OF SOME SORT.
UM, AND IF THE ZONING CHANGE WERE TO BE ADOPTED AS STAFF'S PROPOSAL, UM, IT'LL BE A ROUGHLY A AROUND THE SAME, A LITTLE OVER HALF WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE DEFICIENCIES OF SOME SORT AS IT PERTAINS TO THE NON-CONFORMING, NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURAL ASPECT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER THAT'S TO SETBACKS OR PARKING WELL, AND I THINK THE QUESTION WAS THE, UM, THAT ONE SPECIFIC PROPERTY THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING, COMMISSIONER CARTER WROTE, WE, IT CAN BE DEVELOPED AND IT CAN BE MET, THE STANDARDS CAN BE MET UNDER WM U THREE.
IT'S AGAIN, HOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTIES.
YES, YOU WOULD, IF YOU WERE GOING TO REDEVELOP, YOU MAY HAVE TO REDEVELOP DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT YOU SEE OUT THERE TODAY, BUT IT CAN BE REDEVELOPED.
UM, ARE YOU THINKING, UH, REDEVELOPED AS, UH, RETAIL USES OR REDEVELOPED AS RESIDENTIAL USES? I THINK ABSOLUTELY RETAIL USES.
UM, SO I THINK THAT IS THIS, YOU ARE STILL ABSOLUTELY ABLE TO DO RETAIL USES, YOU'RE STILL ABSOLUTELY ABLE TO DO OFFICE USES.
YES, IT DOES INCORPORATE SOME, UH, UH, THE ALLOWANCE FOR SOME RESIDENTIAL, BUT I THINK AS WAS STATED BY SOME INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, THE LAST SPEAKER AND JPS DONE A LOT OF ANALYSIS ON THIS, THE PROPERTIES DON'T LEND THEMSELVES THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTIES.
THE DEPTHS OF THE PROPERTIES DO NOT LEND THEMSELVES TO ANY TYPE OF MAJOR RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION, BIG APARTMENT USES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND SO I THINK AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S LOOKING AT A MIX OF, OF OPTIONS OF DIFFERENT USES WITHIN THIS AREA.
WHAT I'M HEARING, WHAT I'M DISTILLING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT THAT I'M HEARING IS GENERALLY A SUPPORT FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMU THE USES, LARGELY THEY'RE IN COMMUNITY RETAIL OR EVEN MOVING TO A MIXED USE, YOU KNOW, UH, CUSTOMIZING SOME SORT OF, UM, ASSORTMENT OF USES, BUT, AND, AND CONCENTRATING ON, YOU KNOW, ENHANCING THE LANDSCAPING AND ENHANCING THE SIDEWALKS.
BUT I'M NOT HEARING AN ENDORSEMENT OF THE, OF ADDING THE COMPLEXITY OF FORM-BASED ZONING.
AND, YOU KNOW, READING THE CURRENT, UH, REPORT THAT WAS GIVEN TO ZAC BY THE, UM, CONSULTANT THAT'S TASKED WITH REDOING THE ZONING CODE.
UM, THEY SEEM TO, THAT THAT REPORT SEEMED TO, UM, POINT OUT SOME DIFFICULTIES WITH FORM-BASED ZONING AS FAR AS ADDING UNNECESSARY COMPLEXITY AND SOME OF THE, UM, UH, CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE PUT ON PROPERTIES BY THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF OVERLAYS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT THAT? WELL, I THINK PEOPLE HAVE OFTEN ARGUED THROUGHOUT SINCE FORM-BASED ZONING WAS, YOU KNOW, WAS ADOPTED THAT IT, IT IS MORE COMPLEX.
I THINK THAT IS, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT IN THE SENSE OF IT COULD BE JUST SIMPLY IT IS MORE COMPLEX, OR IT COULD BE SIMPLY, IT IS, IT IS A DIFFERENT WAY OF HAVING TO THINK ABOUT HOW YOU DEVELOP A PROPERTY.
AND RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK LARGELY THROUGHOUT DALLAS, WE HAVE FOCUSED ON THE AUTOMOBILE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN PARK A SITE EASILY, YOU CAN ACCESS A SITE EASILY, AND THE VEHICLE FITS VERY EASILY AND IS ACCESSIBLE IN THAT PROPERTY FORM FORM-BASED HONESTLY DOES FLIP THAT.
SO THAT DOES MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING.
IT DOESN'T ALLOW THE SAME NUMBER OF CURB CUTS THAT YOU CAN DO TODAY.
SOME OF THE WIDTHS OF THOSE DRIVEWAY APPROACHES HAVE TO BE SLIMMED A LITTLE BIT WHERE YOUR PARKING HAPPENS.
SO YES, THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU DO A FORM-BASED ZONE, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT LANDSCAPING.
BUT WHAT WE KEPT HEARING FOR THIS AREA IS WE WANT A SAFER, MORE WALKABLE AREA IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
IT IS NOT JUST WE HAVE TO CROSS OUR FINGERS AND HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL DEVELOP IN THAT WAY.
YOU HAVE TO CREATE SOME STANDARDS TO REQUIRE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT WAY, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING
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VOLUNTARILY THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH WIDER SIDEWALKS, WITH LANDSCAPING, WITH LIMITED CURB CUTS, WITH THINGS THAT ARE IN CONFLICT WITH PEOPLE OF WALKING IN THAT AREA.AND I WILL ARGUE THAT YES, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE PEOPLE SAY IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE IT EVER BEING THAT WAY.
WELL, IF WE NEVER INTERVENE TO DO SOMETHING TO REQUIRE IT, IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NEVER BE THAT WAY.
SO PART OF THIS IS TRYING TO SET UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
NOW I THINK THAT THERE ARE WAYS, YES, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH CODE REFORM, WE NEED TO MAKE SOME OF THESE THINGS EASIER.
WE NEED TO MAKE THEM MORE STREAMLINED, WE NEED TO MAKE THEM LESS COMPLEX.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT DEVELOPED.
I'VE SEEN IT USED AND I'VE SEEN IT BE SUCCESSFUL.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, THEN COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, MS. GILLIS, UM, I GUESS I'VE GOT COMMENTS THAT MAY EVOLVE INTO QUESTIONS, BUT THIS PARTICULAR CORRIDOR REMINDS ME OF SEVERAL CORRIDORS IN DALLAS LIKE GARLAND ROAD, UH, A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THE ARBORETUM, UH, MOCKINGBIRD LANE NEAR, UM, THE OLD DR.
PEPPER HEADQUARTERS ON THE, ON JUST EAST OF 75, UM, PORTIONS OF LOVER'S LANE, SOME OF WHICH IS IN UNIVERSITY PARK, SOME OF WHICH IS IN DALLAS, WHERE THE, THE UNIFYING FACTOR AMONG THESE DIFFERENT CORRIDORS IS YOU HAVE COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY THAT BY TODAY'S STANDARDS ARE EXTREMELY SHALLOW.
THERE ARE THE DEPTHS OF SIMILAR DEPTHS TO RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
IN FACT, IN SOME INSTANCES THEY MAY HAVE ORIGINALLY STARTED AS RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
AND SO YOU'VE GOT THESE PROPERTIES, AND I'M MEASURING ON THE, IN OUR, UH, SUBJECT AREA HERE FOR THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES THAT ARE LESS THAN 200 FEET DEEP.
AND WHAT, AGAIN, MY OBSERVATION IS THAT ON THESE CORRIDORS, UM, THEY ATROPHY, THEY, THERE IS ZERO MOMENTUM TO REDEVELOP THESE PROPERTIES BECAUSE THE ZONING IS TOO RESTRICTIVE, IT'S TOO ONE DIMENSIONAL.
AND, UM, THE, UH, LAND USE REALLY ISN'T MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY ANY LONGER.
AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS CASE IS BEFORE US TODAY, UH, IS THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE FOR DECADES IN THE FUTURE EXACTLY WHAT WE SEE TODAY IF WE DON'T TAKE SOME KIND OF ACTION.
IS THAT, ARE YOU APPROACHING A QUESTION
UH, MAYBE THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU SEE SIMILARITY WITH THESE, SOME OF THESE OTHER CORRIDORS AND YEAH, I DEFINITELY SEE SOME COMMONALITIES.
I MEAN THE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS, IS THAT WE DO WHAT WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE TODAY.
AND AS WE'VE HEARD THROUGH CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, EVEN THROUGH FORWARD DALLAS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH SOME OF OUR, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH SOME OF OUR CORRIDORS? WE'VE GOTTA PLACE SOME OF OUR FOCUS ON OUR CORRIDORS.
AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY LARGELY THE CONVERSATION WAS, YOU KNOW, HANDS OFF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FOCUS ON OUR CORRIDORS.
AND SO NOW WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, LET'S FOCUS ON A CORRIDOR BUT NOT FOCUS ON A CORRIDOR.
SO I KNOW THAT THIS IS CHALLENGING, I KNOW THIS IS A UNIQUE AREA.
I THINK PART OF IT IS THE ZONING.
AND I, I THINK WHERE STAFF'S POSITION IS RIGHT NOW IS I AM I, I'M HEARING EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE BUSINESSES AND THE ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENING ON THE, THE CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW.
IT IS PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
I, I, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
THIS IS JUST PURELY THINKING OF IF THERE ARE SOME CHANGE THAT COMES TO THE FUTURE, HOW DO WE WANT TO MAYBE THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT CHANGE LOOKS LIKE AND HOW THAT CHANGE GETS REDEVELOPED.
UM, SO I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A PUSH AND PULL IN THAT, IN THAT, AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE CHARGED WITH WHAT STAFF IS CHARGED WITH AT THIS STAGE IS THERE WAS AN ADOPTED PLAN FOR THIS AREA, THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN.
IT WAS ADOPTED, IT HAD VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS.
STAFF IS IMPLEMENTING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CHARGED TO DO.
WE CAN ADJUST SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF YOU ALL WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY OR SUGGEST SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY AS CPC, THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE.
BUT AT THIS STAGE IN THE GAME, WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, AND THEN COMMISSIONER HALL.
I'M NOT SURE WHO WANTS TO TAKE THIS FROM STAFF.
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YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THE RESPONSE FORMS THAT WE RECEIVED, IT IS OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST, AND SORRY, WAITING TO SEE IF WE GET ANYTHING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT ALERT.UM, BUT THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WITHIN THE REZONED AREA? DO WE, I WAS TRYING TO COUNT, IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE WHERE THEY ACTUALLY ARE, BUT DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF THAT MIRRORS WHAT'S WITHIN THE OVERALL AREA IN THE RESPONSE FORM? 'CAUSE I THINK I HEARD THAT THERE'S MAYBE SOME FOLKS THAT ARE SUPPORTING IT, AND I KNOW I'VE SEEN LETTERS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH OF BUSINESSES, UM, THAT ARE IN SUPPORT AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF, OF MAYBE WHERE THAT DISCUSSION WAS.
I THINK THAT'S JP CAN HANDLE THEM.
SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUM I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER AND I APOLOGIZE FOR WITHIN OUR SPECIFIC AREA.
YEAH, I JUST, YEAH, BUT I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, AND, AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND SOMETIMES THAT COULD BE DIFFERENT.
UM, AND I'VE HEARD, UM, A MUCH MORE VARIED MIX OF, UH, FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THAT GROUP SPECIFICALLY.
THANK, AND THAT'S JUST, I WAS TRYING TO JUST GET A SENSE.
UM, AND THEN MS. GILLIS, YOU KIND OF HIT ON ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD IS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT OUR QUARTERS, HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT QUARTERS AS THEY'RE REDEVELOPING? BUT I THINK ANOTHER CONSISTENT MESSAGE I'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF FOLKS IN OPPOSITION IS HOW ARE WE MANAGING POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT? AND CAN YOU, 'CAUSE I MEAN, THE ZONING ALONE IS NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
AND SO ARE, DO WE HAVE OTHER TOOLS THAT NEED TO BE, THAT MAY BE OUTSIDE OF THIS BODY, BUT NEED TO BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION? I THINK SO.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS, I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS A BUSINESS GROUP THAT'S SORT OF BEEN ORGANIZING THROUGH SOME OF THESE PROCESSES.
I THINK THAT IS A MOVEMENT IN A REALLY GOOD DIRECTION.
UM, I THINK IF WE CAN BUILD SOME STRONGER PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN US AND THAT GROUP AS WELL.
UM, AND THINKING ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, AND BRINGING IN MAYBE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
UM, I THINK A LOT OF THAT, I THINK THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT BEYOND THE ZONING PIECE IN THIS, BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THAT TOO.
I MEAN, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO HELP FACILITATE DISPLACEMENT AS WELL.
AND I THINK IT'S THE, YOU WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF IT'S GETTING MIXED UP IN THIS CONVERSATION OF, YOU KNOW, BIG APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND IT'S GONNA GET MOVED OVER.
AND, AND AGAIN, IS IS THE REALITY OF, IS THAT GOING TO HAPPEN OR ARE WE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE, OR IS A LOT OF THIS JUST GOING TO REMAIN AS IT IS AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND THAT THERE MAY BE SOME SUBTLE CHANGES INTO THE FUTURE? DO YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL, I'LL PAUSE THERE AND, UM, LISTEN TO SOME OF MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR MS. GILES OR POCHE, I DON'T CARE.
I GUESS THAT FORM-BASED ZONING IS NOT SOMETHING I HAD TO STUDY IN COLLEGE AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT IN MEDICAL RESEARCH OR IN THE OIL FIELD SERVICES INDUSTRY.
AND IN HANDLING 26 CASES IN THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF IN MY DISTRICT 13, IT HAS NEVER COME UP.
SO I WONDER IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A VERY, VERY BRIEF EXPLANATION OF WHAT FORM-BASED ZONING IS.
AND I HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS TOO.
SO, UM, COMPARED TO TRADITIONAL ZONING, WHICH IS MORE FOCUSED ON SEGREGATING LAND USES, UM, AND THEIR INTENSITIES FORM-BASED CODE DOESN'T NECESSARILY FOCUS ON THE SEGREGATION OF THOSE LAND USES.
UM, IT ALLOWS VARIOUS LAND USES TO BE ABLE TO EXIST IN ONE SITE, BUT IT FOCUSES MORE ON THE PREDICTABILITY AND THE DESIGN OUTCOMES THAT, UH, COMES ABOUT NEW AND, UH, REDEVELOPING PROPERTIES.
AND SO, UM, EUCLIDEAN ZONING, HEY, I DON'T WANT INDUSTRIAL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, UM, FORM BASE.
CERTAIN USES MIGHT BE ABLE TO BLEND TOGETHER, BUT WE'RE MORE FOCUSED ON HOW ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT THE FINAL DESIGN PRODUCT LOOKS LIKE.
I HAVE A GRAPHIC THAT I NEED TO CONJURE UP FROM MY DAYS OF SAN ANTONIO.
UM, WHEN WE DID FORM-BASED ZONING FOR THE LONGEST TIME, IT WAS, UM, IT'S FORM VERSUS USE.
LIKE, WE ALWAYS THINK THAT LIKE, LIKE EXACTLY LIKE JP WAS SAYING THAT FOR THE LONGEST TIME WE JUST ASSUME THAT ALL USES NEEDED TO BE SEPARATED.
THEY COULD NOT BE NEXT TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE FORM AND HOW THE BUILDING LOOKED AND HOW IT WAS DEVELOPED.
SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL ISN'T ALWAYS BAD NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, IT IS HOW YOU DEVELOP THE TWO PER SE.
I, THIS PROBABLY, PROBABLY SHOULDN'T USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE IN THE, THE CON, BUT
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IT IS, IT'S THE FORM OF THE BUILDING AND THE FORM OF HOW THE BUILDING RELATES TO THE STREET AND THE SIDEWALK VERSUS JUST SIMPLY THINKING ABOUT USE AND NOTHING ELSE.LIKE WE ARE ZONING OUR BASE ZONING RIGHT NOW, WE JUST THINK ABOUT THE USE SHOULD COMMERCIAL GO NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE, AND OFTENTIMES WE THINK THAT'S CONFLICTING BECAUSE WE HAVE NO DESIGN STANDARDS, WE HAVE NO FORM STANDARDS TO SOFTEN THE TWO USES BEING NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
UM, DOES THE EXISTING PROPOSAL CALL FOR THE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES? NO, SIR.
DOES IT CALL FOR THE BUILDING OF LUXURY TOWN HOMES OR HOUSES OR APARTMENTS? NO.
IT, IT DOES ALLOW TOWN HOMES, APARTMENTS, AND HOUSES.
DOES IT CALL FOR A TROLLEY SYSTEM? NO.
UH, DOES IT CALL FOR DISPLACEMENT? NO.
SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE FEARS, BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN, IN THE PROPOSAL.
UM, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE INITIATIVE FAILS? IF WE DENIED? IF WE DENIED THIS AND COUNCIL DENIED IT? WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? WELL, UM, I PREDICT THAT, UM, IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO, WELL, IF THE AREA WERE TO GO THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT, UM, IT WOULD BE MORE PIECEMEAL, UM, MORE PIECE BY PIECE.
UM, THE AREA OVER TIME COULD REDEVELOP AND LACK CONNECTIVITY.
UM, AND A LOT MORE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT CASES COME THROUGH THIS HORSESHOE TO HERE.
UM, THAT'S WHAT I PREDICT, OR, UH, NOTHING.
THIS AREA COULD REMAIN THE SAME FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS TO COME.
UH, NO NEW CHANGES, NO NEW, UH, DEVELOP REDEVELOPMENT, UH, EFFORTS OR VERY LITTLE REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS.
AND IT REMAINS STAGNANT FROM HERE TO WHENEVER.
UM, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, UH, YE YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THIS, UH, WERE TO BE APPROVED, UH, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT DO NOT CONFORM WITH, UH, THIS FORM ZONING? WELL, THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS, UM, MOST OF THE BUSINESSES WILL CONFORM TO THE NEW ZONING.
THE ONLY BUSINESSES OR USES PER SE THAT DON'T ARE, UH, TATTOO PARLORS.
HE WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO COME INTO CONFORMANCE OR GET KICKED OUT.
UM, 'CAUSE HE WOULD HAVE VESTED RIGHTS WITHIN THE AREA.
AND THE OTHER USE IS CELL TOWERS.
CELL TOWERS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SUP UNDER THE NEW ZONING.
UM, AND THEY'RE ALLOWED BY RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND SO THAT, THOSE ARE THE TWO, ONLY TWO THAT EXIST TODAY THAT WOULD, COULD POTENTIALLY BE AFFECTED.
BUT EVEN THEN THEY HAVE VESTED RIGHTS AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO RETROACTIVELY COME BACK INTO CONFORMANCE OR APPLY FOR SOMETHING NEW IN ORDER TO STAY.
UM, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE FIRST ROUND? WHO'S ON, UH, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
YEAH, AND, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO TO UH, ADDRESS THIS TO IF STAFF KNOWS OR IF PERHAPS COMMISSIONER SHERLOCK KNOWS.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A SENSE THAT THERE IS A, THAT THE PUBLIC IS OVERWHELMINGLY OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT I SAW THREE LETTERS FROM THREE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SUPPORTING IT.
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE FOR APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY PEOPLE THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS REPRESENT? UH, I COULD SPEAK TO THAT.
THERE'S, UH, FIVE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE NOTICING RADIUS.
UH, OF THE FIVE THREE HAVE SENT IN LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP.
AND TWO HAVE, UH, ONE HAS SENT A LETTER THAT IS NEUTRAL AND ONE, UH, I BELIEVE IS NOT SENT IN ANYTHING.
WE'VE ALSO, UM, AS RECENTLY AS THIS MORNING, RECEIVED ADDITIONAL SUPPORT LETTERS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
UM, YOU PROBABLY SAW THE SUPPORT LETTERS THAT WERE IN THE CASE FILE.
UM, UH, JP HAD SPOKEN TO THIS MORNING ABOUT, UH, HAVING PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND PEOPLE IN THE NURSING RADIO SAID, HAD SUPPORTED IT.
AND I CAN ATTEST THAT I'VE, UH, LIKEWISE HAD SIMILAR CONVERSATIONS OF PEOPLE THAT SUPPORTED THE CASE.
SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THIS AREA REPRESENT MOST OF THE RESIDENTS.
IS THAT, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? YES.
ANYONE ELSE ON THE FIRST ROUND? UM, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
UM, THIS MIGHT GO TO MS. GILLIS JUST BASED ON
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SOME PAST WORK THAT THAT'S BEEN DONE.I, UM, THESE ARE GONNA BE QUESTIONS ABOUT WOKE CAP.
I DON'T, SO I'M GUESSING THEY GO TO MISS GILLIS.
UM, AND OF COURSE WOKE CAP WAS VERY CONTENTIOUS.
CAN YOU SPEAK ABOUT HOW SORT OF THE ORIGINAL GRAPHS OF WOKE CAP KEPT, ORIGINAL DRAFT OF WOKE CAP SPOKE ABOUT THIS AREA AND HOW IT SORT OF EVOLVED OVER TIME IN RESPONSE TO VARIOUS FEEDBACK THAT OUR CITY STAFF AND PUBLIC BODIES GOT? SURE.
I THINK WE HAD, SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT THAT WENT INTO WCAP.
UM, IT WAS A SEVERAL YEAR LONG PROCESS.
UM, THERE WAS, SO BY THE TIME WE GOT TO TO CLUB, UM, AND THEN TO CPC, UM, THERE WERE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO THE VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK THERE WERE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO, SPECIFICALLY TO SOME OF THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS BECAUSE THERE WERE CONCESSIONS.
THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED THAT IF THERE WASN'T A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ESTABLISHED IN THE AREA, THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANNA HAVE SOME HARD AND FAST RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE PLAN, HOLD OFF ON THAT AND LET THE, SO LET THERE TO BE MORE, LET THERE TO BE MORE ENGAGEMENT THAT HAPPENED IN THOSE AREAS.
I THINK SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SOFTENED OR GENERALIZED.
UM, AND SO THERE WAS SOME ADJUSTING THAT WENT ALONG THE WAY.
UM, IT WAS TO, YOU KNOW, ALSO TO BE MADE VERY CLEAR THAT, AND SOME OF THESE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS OR SOME OF THE, THE, UM, CORRIDOR AREAS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT.
I KNOW THAT WE, YOU KNOW, HEAR IT ALL THE TIME, WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER BISHOP ARTS.
AND SO MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS NOT, THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT NOT WANTING BIG APARTMENT COMPLEXES, NOT WANTING, YOU KNOW, EIGHT TO 10 STORY BUILDINGS, UM, WHICH IS NOT THE RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CASE.
SO THERE WERE SOME ADJUSTMENTS, UM, MADE THROUGH THAT TO SOFTEN SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE WOKE CAP SORT OF IN ITS VERY INCIPIENT HAD STARTED OFF ON AUTOMOTIVE USES ON THIS CORRIDOR AND WHERE IT ENDED UP? UH, OH YEAH, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK WE WANTED TO MAKE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, EMPHASIZE THAT THERE WAS NO INTENT TO PUSH OUT AUTOMOTIVE USES.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THAT THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS, ONE THROUGH OCAP.
AND I THINK WE HAVE SPECIFIC, THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THE PLAN, IF I RECALL THAT WE ACTUALLY ADDED IN LANGUAGE THAT THERE WAS NO INTENT TO, YOU KNOW, PUSH OUT AUTOMOTIVE USES.
UM, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THIS, THIS, UM, AUTHORIZED HEARING AREA GOING BACK AND FORTH OF, YOU KNOW, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT SHOPFRONT OVERLAY VERSUS NOT SHOPFRONT OVERLAY.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS RECOMMENDATION STARTED OUT WITH A LARGER AREA THAT WAS A SHOP FRONT OVERLAY AND PER CONCERNS FROM SOME OF THE AUTO RELATED USES WAS TO SCALE THAT BACK.
UM, SO THAT, THAT THAT WASN'T A REQUIREMENT IN THE AREA AND THAT'S WHERE THIS ACTUAL RECOMMENDATION LANDED.
UM, DIFFERENT LINE OF QUESTIONING, I'M NOT SURE IF IT GOES TO MR. PORSCHE, MS. GILLI OR MAYBE EVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT NONCONFORMITIES AND THERE ARE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF KINDS OF, OF NONCONFORMITIES.
I THINK THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO A TATTOO PARLOR MAY BE A CELL TOWER THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP.
THERE ARE ALSO STRUCTURES THAT, THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED NON-CONFORMING.
CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO, AND YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS, BUT ONE, WHAT INCREASE, IF ANY, WILL THERE BE IN, IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES IN THE AREA OF THE AUTHORIZED HEARING? YES, SIR.
SO I, I DID SPEAK TO THAT EARLIER.
UM, STAFF ESTIMATES APPROXIMATELY 50% OR OR MORE, UH, WOULD FIND NONCONFORMING STRUCTURAL ISSUES PERTAINING TO SETBACKS OR PARKING, UM, IF THIS WERE TO GET APPROVED AS IS.
UM, BUT WHICH STAFF ALSO FOUND THAT, THAT THE SAME AMOUNT CURRENTLY TODAY UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING, HAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF DEFICIENCIES AND NONCONFORMITIES AS IT PERTAINS TO THE STRUCTURE.
AND, AND WHAT RIGHTS DOES THE OWNER OF A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE ON A PROPERTY HAVE WITH RESPECT? AND THIS MAY BE A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION.
SO, UM, PER OUR CODE, UM, NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO EXIST AND THEY'RE EVEN ALLOWED TO EXPAND UP TO 35% OF THEIR, UH, CURRENT, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE FOOTPRINT, UM, UPON THE ADOPTION OF THIS, UH, FORM-BASED CODE IF IT PASSES.
UM, AND SO THEY GET TO CONTINUE TO EXIST AND THEY GET TO EVEN EXPAND UP TO 35% SHOULD THIS PASS AND ANY LAWFUL USE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT CAN CORRECT OR OPERATE IN A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE.
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YOU.UM, ANYONE ELSE ON THE FIRST ROUND? COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE, UH, FOLKS WHO SPOKE IN THE, FROM THE PUBLIC? I THINK THE TIME FOR THAT HAS, HAS ALREADY PASSED.
WE, WE HAD A OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, WE'RE ONTO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
WELL, THE REASON WHY I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THOUGH IS THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTARY FROM STAFF, UH, ABOUT WHAT THEIR INTERPRETATION OF WCAP IS.
AND, AND, AND I, AND I THINK IT WOULD, IT WOULD ONLY BE APPROPRIATE TO HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE FOLKS WHO ARE INVOLVED WITH WOKE CAP TO, TO, TO GIVE THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT THIS PLAN, WHETHER THIS CONFORMS WITH WHAT WOKE CAP, YOU KNOW, CALLED FOR.
I, I, I THINK THAT'S ONLY FAIR.
I, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN READ, THERE'S BLACK AND WHITE LANGUAGE ABOUT WHAT WCAP SAYS.
WE CAN ACTUALLY BRING THAT LANGUAGE UP.
I MEAN THERE'S, I, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT'S HERE, WELL, WITHOUT THEIR PERSPECTIVE, THEY WERE INVOLVED WITH WCAP.
THAT THAT'S, WE, WE, AND WE HAVE PRESENTED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY QUESTIONS.
WOULD PEOPLE LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY OR IS THAT TIME PASSED? UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A, A MOTION TO GO BACK TO COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS, WE, WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT I, I DON'T REMEMBER THERE EVER BEING GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY DURING THIS DISCUSSION.
THERE WAS DEFINITELY RESPECTFULLY THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY WAS GIVEN.
ALRIGHT, SECOND ROUND OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT AND I'LL, I'LL TRY TO BE MORE DIRECT WITH MY QUESTIONS THIS TIME.
SO WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL, UM, THERE TWO AGO FROM THE AUTOMOTIVE ASSOCIATION OF OAK CLIFF.
THE ATTACHMENT, UM, WAS A, A PETITION AND IT WAS, UH, ON THE HEADLINE OF THE PETITION WAS THAT THEY HAD 1,192 SIGNATURES, UM, IN OPPOSITION TO, UH, THIS, THIS REZONING.
JUST CURIOUS, DOES ANYBODY ON STAFF KNOW HOW MANY ADDRESSES WERE IN THE OFFICIAL NOTICE AREA? JUST KIND OF CURIOUS HOW THE 1192 MIGHT COMPARE TO THE ADDRESSES IN THE OFFICIAL NOTICE AREA.
SO THAT'S MORE THAN, AND SO THAT, THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN I GO THROUGH THE 18, NO, EXCUSE ME, 27 PAGES OF HANDWRITTEN, UM, SIGNATURES, I COUNT 18 ZIP CODES AMONG THOSE SIGNATURES, UM, IN THE NOTICE AREA, THERE WOULDN'T BE MORE THAN ONE OR TWO ZIP CODES WOULD THERE? UH, I'M NOT SURE.
I MEAN, I WOULD THINK HIGHLY UNLIKELY MORE THAN A COUPLE OF ZIP CODES.
SO WE'VE GOT, SO MAYBE WE DO HAVE 1,192 SIGNATURES AND OPPOSITION.
THOSE SIGNATURES ARE FROM, AS I COUNT AS MANY AS 18 DIFFERENT ZIP CODES, WHICH WOULD SUGGEST THOSE ARE FAR A FIELD OF THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE WAS ALSO FOLLOWING THE HANDWRITTEN, UH, SIGNATURE PAGES, THERE WERE 3, 4, 5 PAGES OF TYPEWRITTEN NAMES THAT WERE NOT SIGNED.
I PRESUME THAT THOSE WERE, THEY'RE REPRESENTING THAT THOSE WERE AGAINST.
BUT I'LL POINT OUT THAT THOSE WERE FROM, UM, ANY NUMBER OF SUBURBAN CITIES OUTSIDE OF DALLAS AND WENT AS FAR AS AUSTIN, CANTON AND POTTSBORO.
UM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT OPPOSITION, IF YOU CAN CHARACTERIZE IT, THAT MIGHT BE BEYOND THE, THE, THE COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.
AGAIN, I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE NUMBERS OF, OF RESPONSES.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? NO, THANK YOU.
UH, ANYONE HAVE SECOND ROUND QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UM, SEE NO SECOND ROUND QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER CHAIRNO, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
IN CASE NUMBER Z 1 8 9 3 4 9, I MOVE TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE FOLLOWING, CHANGE THE PARCEL AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE AUTHORIZED AREA FRONTING THE NORTH LINE OF 12TH STREET AND THE EAST LINE OF HAMPTON ROAD IS ZONED WMU THREE, WHICH SHOP FRONT OVERLAY SOME COMMENTS AS WELL.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CHINOOK FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND, UH, YOUR COMMENTS.
UH, I, I WANNA START MY COMMENTS BY FIRST RECOGNIZING STAFF.
THEY'VE, UM, IN PARTICULAR, JP AND SETH, THEY REALLY WENT THE EXTRA MILE IN THIS CASE AND, AND MADE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC
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TIME AND TIME AGAIN.AND SO I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK THEM AND RECOGNIZE THEM.
UM, LIKE THE LAST THREE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT IN WEST OAK CLIFF, THIS IS NOT ABOUT REVISITING THE WOKE CALFS INTENT, IT'S ABOUT ALIGNING THE ZONING TO CARRY OUT THE PLAN'S GOALS.
UH, WE ARE HERE TO NOT REWRITE WCAP, BUT WE'RE HERE TO IMPLEMENT IT.
UM, I LARGELY SUPPORTED STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I THINK THEY'VE GOT THE, THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION CORRECT IN, IN THAT THEY FOLLOWED W CAP'S OBJECTIVES AND GOALS.
UM, ALTHOUGH THIS CASE TOOK A LONG TIME TO WORK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHEN YOU STRIP IT DOWN, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF, UM, DECISIONS WITH REGARDS TO WHICH ZONING TOOLS THAT WE USED IN THE ZONING TOOLBOX.
UM, I THINK THE FIRST SORT OF SPLIT IN THE ROAD TO DECIDE WAS WHETHER WE WERE GONNA USE FORM-BASED CODE OR WE WERE GONNA USE THE EUCLIDEAN, UM, TRADITIONAL ZONING, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT CHAPTER 51 A.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THE FORM-BASED CODE, UH, WAS THE RIGHT CALL.
I THINK IT DEFINITELY ADDRESSES, UH, BETTER HOW BUILDINGS RELATE TO THE STREET AND ENCOURAGES A WALKABLE, HUMAN SCALED ENVIRONMENT THAT WOKE CALF CALLED FOR.
I THINK WE EVEN HEARD OPPOSITION REALLY SAYING THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD SUPPORT.
UM, I THOUGHT, UH, JP DID A NICE JOB EXPLAINING THE, IN HIS CASE FILE AND TODAY EXPLAINING THE FORM CODE IN THE TRADITIONAL ZONING.
I THOUGHT ONCE YOU GET INTO FORM CODE AND YOU'RE IN THAT TOOLBOX, SO TO SPEAK, THERE REALLY WASN'T A LOT OF OPTIONS BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS AND THE PROXIMITY SLOPE AND THE, THE SHAPE OF THESE LOTS.
I THINK WM E THREE WAS REALLY THE BEST CHOICE GIVEN THE TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL NATURE OF THIS CORRIDOR.
I THINK THE WM E THREE WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE, AND THEN IT WAS REALLY THE NEXT BIG, UH, ITEM WAS REALLY TO, UH, HOW WE'RE GOING TO OR NOT GOING TO APPLY THE SHOPFRONT OVERLAY.
I THOUGHT THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION GOT THAT CORRECT.
I THOUGHT THAT USING SHOPFRONT OVERLAY PROTECTS THE COMMERCIAL CHARACTER.
UM, ALSO ADD SOME THOUGHTFUL DESIGN STANDARDS.
SO I, I, I THINK THAT WAS ALSO TRACKING WELL WITH WILL CAP'S OBJECTIVES.
UM, I DID DEVIATE FROM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ONE KEY PARCEL, UM, AND ADDING THAT BACK IN TO THE, THE CASE AND THE ZONING CHANGE.
UM, THIS WAS BASED ON DIRECT INPUT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERSHIP, UH, THAT SHARED A CONCERN ABOUT AVOIDING UNWANTED USES, MAINLY DRIVE-THROUGHS.
UH, THAT, UH, WAS COMMUNICATED TO ME IN A MEETING AND IT WAS ALSO, UM, COMMUNICATED IN THE LETTER THAT HAMPTON HILLS WROTE, UH, THAT THEY, UH, HAD, HAD WISHED FOR THAT TO BE PART OF THE CASE.
AND THEY ALSO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BE FRONT OVERLAY, WHICH I THINK IS APPROPRIATE.
I THINK THAT ALSO ADDRESSES THE OPPOSITION'S CONCERNS FOR LARGE BLOCKS OF APARTMENTS.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A, A GOOD BALANCE.
UM, AS WE DISCUSSED IN IN COMMENTS, WE, WE, WE HAVE HAD SUPPORT, WE'VE HAD OPPOSITION, WE MAYBE HAD A LITTLE MORE OPPOSITION, UH, SPEAK TODAY AND, AND PUT IN LETTERS.
UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I'LL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE OPPOSITION FIRST.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I PERSONALLY, AS I'M SURE MOST OF US, HAVE DEEPLY CONSIDERED THE OPPOSITE OPPOSITIONS POINT, SERIOUSLY.
UM, NOT BOTH JUST TODAY, BUT IN THE PROCESS, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS, I READ THE LETTERS.
I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS AND CONSIDERED THE CONCERNS, WHETHER THEY WERE ABOUT TOWN HOMES OR TRAFFIC OR RISING TAXES OR DISPLACEMENT.
IN THE END, I WAS JUST NOT SWAYED ENOUGH BY THE RATIONALE BEHIND THE TALKING POINTS, UM, IN ORDER NOT TO SUPPORT THIS.
AND I, I WANT TO JUST KIND OF FOCUS A LITTLE BIT HERE ABOUT SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY WRITES A SUPPORT LETTER DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
AND JUST BECAUSE A HUNDRED PEOPLE WRITE A SUPPORT LETTER DOESN'T MAKE IT MORE OF A GOOD IDEA.
JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY VOICES A A NARRATIVE ABOUT DISPLACEMENT OR RISING TAXES, I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO HONE INTO UNDERSTANDING THE PROBABILITY OF THE RATIONALE BEHIND IT.
I THOUGHT THAT, UH, THE, THE, UM, OPPOSITION IN THEIR TALKING POINTS, I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE WRONG FOR MAKING THEM.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT SOME OF THEIR TALKING POINTS WERE, WERE GIVEN IN THE FAR EXTREMES.
I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE OPPOSITION BELIEVED THAT THE CHANGING OF THE ZONING WAS GONNA MAKE THEIR PROPERTY UNMARKETABLE.
AND THEN WE HEARD OPPOSITION SAY THAT IT WAS GONNA COMPLETELY OPPOSITE, MAKE A RUN UP ON LAND PRICES AND THEREFORE CREATE TAX PRESSURE, TAX INCREASED PRESSURE.
CLEARLY BOTH OF THOSE CAN'T BE TRUE.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT OFTEN THE TALKING POINTS WERE GIVEN IN THE EXTREMES, AND WE CAN ALWAYS CREATE OUTLIER
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SCENARIOS TO ARTICULATE OUR POINTS, BUT ZONING TO ME IS MORE ABOUT STAYING IN THE MIDDLE AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE SERVING THE GREATER GOOD.UM, I JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE OPPOSITIONS, I JUST DON'T FEEL THERE WAS A HIGH PROBABILITY OF MANY OF THEIR TALKING POINTS.
UM, SO FOR ME, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS JUST MAKE COMMENT ABOUT REWINDING THE TAPES TO FORWARD DALLAS.
THROUGH FORWARD DALLAS, WE HEARD A LOT OF INPUT FROM COMMUNITIES SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT HIGHER DENSITY USES IN THE, IN THEIR, UH, COMMUNITIES IN THEIR INSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, UH, COMMERCIAL USES HERE WE KIND OF HAVE A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.
WE HAVE OPPOSITION SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANT OUR RESIDENTIAL USES IN OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
AND COLLECTIVELY, WE HAD KIND OF WORKED THROUGH THAT AND, AND MANY, MANY OF US AGREED THAT THESE CORRIDORS ARE EXACTLY WHERE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT INTRODUCING ADDITIONAL USES LIKE RESIDENTIAL.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
I, I CAN SEE THE OPPOSITION'S POINT WHERE, UH, AN ENTIRE CORRIDOR BEING OVERRUN WITH APARTMENTS IS, IS A NEGATIVE.
BUT I REALLY BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE OF THESE LOTS, THE PROXIMITY SLOPE, THE SHOP FRONT OVERLAY, WE REALLY PUT GOOD PROTECTIONS IN PLACE TO PROTECT THAT FROM HAPPENING.
UM, THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO, TO JUST HIGHLIGHT IS KNOW, I, IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF I'VE BEEN A PLAN COMMISSIONER.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY, ANYBODY ELSE HAS KNOWS, BUT DISTRICT ONE HAS VERY LITTLE, LITTLE ACTIVITY FOR ZONING CASES.
AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A LOT OF THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT IS LARGELY IN PART BECAUSE OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS, COMMUNITIES HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF CREATING AREA PLANS AND CHANGING THEIR ZONING.
AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS IT PUTS THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ON NOTICE WHEN THEY WANT TO COME IN AND DEVELOP IT IN A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD OR MARKET.
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT THE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
THE ZONING CONSULT CONSULTANTS MAKE THEM AWARE THAT THESE COMMUNITIES HAVE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THESE PROCESSES AND HAVE ALREADY DECIDED ON THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WANNA GO.
A, A ZONING CHANGE DOES NOT CREATE A MARKET.
IT JUST STEERS THE MARKET AND THE DIRECTION THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID THEY WANTED TO GO.
IN THIS INSTANCE, IT'S STEERING IN THE DIRECTION OF THE WOKE CAP OBJECTIVES.
AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS CORRIDOR IS GOING TO START TO TURN OVER AND BE REDEVELOPED.
COMMISSIONER HALLETT HAD, UH, ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T, UH, PASS THIS, WHICH IS, IS AN OPTION TODAY? WE DON'T HAVE TO PASS THIS.
TO ME, THAT MEANS THAT EVERY TIME A DEVELOPER AT THE TIME WHERE THE MARKET STARTS TO REDEVELOP THIS, THIS COURT, OR THAT MEANS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE CASES THAT NEEDS ZONING ENTITLEMENTS HAS TO COME THROUGH THIS BODY.
AND THE REAL DOWNSIDE OF THAT IS THAT IT, IT BECOMES A VERY DIFFICULT BURDEN ON THOSE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT IT AND THERE'LL BE PEOPLE THAT OPPOSE IT, AND IT PERPETUATE PERPETUALLY PITS NEIGHBORS AGAINST EACH OTHER.
AND I THINK THAT'S A REAL DOWNSIDE THAT, UH, COULD HAPPEN IF WE DON'T DO, UH, YOU KNOW, A ZONING CHANGE TODAY.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I'LL JUST SAY IS IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, THE OPPOSITION'S CONCERNS DON'T GO AWAY THERE.
THE TAXES HAVE SHOT UP IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN THESE COMMUNITIES WITHOUT ANY ZONING CHANGES HAPPENING.
SO CLEARLY TAX INCREASES ARE NOT PINNED TO ZONING CHANGES IN ANY SIGNIFICANT WAY.
TOWN HOME PROJECTS CAN STILL BE REBUILT UNDER INDIVIDUAL ZONING CASES.
THE TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO, TO, TO INCREASE IN THIS CORRIDOR SLOWLY OVER TIME.
UM, AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE DEPL DISPLACEMENT, WHICH IS, IS A, A, A CONCERN THAT POTENTIAL ALWAYS EXISTS.
DISPLACEMENT IS CREATED BY MARKET ACTIVITY, WHICH CAN HAPPEN UNDER ANY ZONING CIRCUMSTANCE, UH, ANY ZONING DESIGNATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING, UM, DOES NOT MAKE A REDEVELOPMENT MARKET IN THIS CASE.
AND, UM, I HOPE THAT, UH, THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL SUPPORT, UH, MY MOTION AND SEE MERIT IN MY TALKING POINTS.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION ABOUT THE PARCEL THAT YOU ADDED AS WMU THREE? IS IT THE, UM, SHOPPING CENTER ACROSS FROM TOM THUMB? YES, IT IS.
ANY, OH, MY MICROPHONE'S NOT ON ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? IS THAT A HAND RAISED COMMISSIONER KINGSTON,
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WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.UM, I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UH, IT, A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION TO ME SOUNDS AS THOUGH WE'RE SORT OF REHASHING WOKE CAP.
AND IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT TO ME THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THE AREA AND A NUMBER OF THE BUSINESSES HAVE VOICED SUPPORT FOR THIS.
UM, LIKE MOST DIFFICULT CASES, YOU HAVE OPPOSITION AND SUPPORT.
UM, BOTH WANTING TO BE CONSIDERED, BUT THE WEIGHT OF THE, THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK SEEMS FAIRLY CLEAR TO ME THAT IT'S IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND, UM, MUCH LIKE IT WAS IN SUPPORT OF WOKE CAP.
ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS? DID I SEE A HAND COMMISSIONER HERBERT, OR IS THAT A OKAY? YEAH, IT'S, UM, JUST QUICKLY, I'VE AGAIN VISITED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD QUITE OFTEN.
I GOT A HAIRCUT AT TEXAS FADES, UM, FOR YEARS AND WALKED THE AREA AND FEEL THE DANGER WHEN WALKING THE STREETS OF CLARINET, I MEAN OF HAMPTON.
UM, FROM BRANDON TO CATHERINE, HONESTLY, I'VE BEEN HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE GROWN UP AND HAVE BEEN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND A NEIGHBORHOOD WHO WAS ONCE SLOWER, HAS PICKED UP A LOT IN THEIR TRANSITION OF PEOPLE TRAVELING THROUGH, UM, TO GET TO THEIR, THEIR, UM, DENSER NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
IT'S BECOME A BELTLINE IN, IN A WAY.
IF THEY DON'T FEEL THE GENTRIFICATION YET, THOSE ARE SOME BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO I WILL, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.
I THINK WE HAVE TO WORK ON OUR MESSAGING AND HOW THESE THINGS ARE BEING MESSAGED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPETITION OF, UM, BAD MESSAGING AND GETTING, GETTING THE WORD OUT IN THE WRONG WAY.
UM, BUT THAT'S NEEDED HERE, THERE, I THINK, UH, THIS IS A GOOD PROPOSAL TO, TO IMPROVE THIS AREA.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HERBERT.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CHERNOCK, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF, UH, WMU THREE, WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE DI DISTRICT, AND A SHOP FRONT OVERLAY ON A PORTION WITH A ADJUSTMENT TO WHERE THE SHOP FRONT OVERLAY COVERS.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IS THAT TWO NOS? CARPENTER? IT SEEMS LIKE THREE.
ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION? ALRIGHT, THE MOTION CARRIES.
MOTION? YEAH, LEMME GET, I'LL GO.
[21. 25-1438A 1. Suspension of CPC Rules of Procedure Section 4(c)(2) to allow reconsideration of Authorization of a Hearing “Consideration of authorizing a public hearing to determine the proper zoning on property zoned CR Community Retail with a portion in a Dry Overlay, generally located along both sides of Clarendon Drive from Windomere Avenue on the west to the alley east of Edgefield Avenue on the east and containing approximately 2.13 acres with consideration being given to appropriate zoning for the area to include but not limited to use, development standards, and other appropriate regulations. This is a hearing to consider the request to authorize the hearing and not the rezoning of property at this time.”]
ARE ON ITEM 21.UM, IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD THE RE CONSIDERATION OF THE OTHER AUTHORIZED HEARING, WE NEED A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION? COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.
IN, UH, THE MATTER OF Z 180 9 DASH 43, I MOVE THAT WE SUSPEND SECTION FOUR C TWO OF THE RULE OF THE CPC RULES OF PROCEDURE TO ALLOW RECONSIDERATION OF ZONING.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR MOTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND ON, UH, THE MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES.
IT IS NOT DEBATABLE, IT IS NOT AMENDABLE AND IT REQUIRES A TWO THIRDS VOTE TO PASS.
ALRIGHT, UM, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND MOTION.
DO WE NEED TO READ IT IN AT THIS POINT, MS. MORRISON? NO.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I MOVE TO RECONSIDER ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2018, ON ZONING CASE NUMBER Z 180 9 DASH 1 43.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
UM, THIS IS A DEBATABLE MOTION, UM, BUT REQUIRES A, UH, JUST A BARE MAJORITY TO PASS ANY DISCUSSION.
UH, MOTION NUMBER THREE, UH, COMMISSION.
NOW WE READ THE ITEM IN MR. KOTH.
ITEM NUMBER 21, A CONSIDERATION OF AUTHORIZING A PUBLIC HEARING TO DETERMINE PROPER ZONING ON PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMUNITY RETAIL WITH A PORTION IN A DRY OVERLAY, GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG BOTH SIDES OF CLAREDON.
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AVENUE ON THE WEST TO THE EARLY EAST OF EDGEFIELD AVENUE ON THE EAST AND CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 2.13 ACRES.CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE AREA TO INCLUDE, BUT NOT LIMITED TO USE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD AND OTHER APPROPRIATE REGULATION.
THIS IS A HEARING TO CONSIDER THE REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE THE HEARING AND NOT REZONING OF PROPERTY AT THIS TIME, JUST CALL FOR SPEAKER SECOND.
SO THIS IS NOW A PUBLIC HEARING ON ZONING CASE 1 8 9 1 4 3.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HELLO AGAIN.
UH, MY NAME IS GERALDO FIGUEROA, 2220 WEST CLARENDON DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 0 8.
I AM, UH, AGREEING WITH THE CITY STAFF IN THE AUTHORIZING THIS AREA.
UM, WE'VE SPOKEN A LOT ABOUT WOKE CAP TODAY, UH, AND IT'S STAFF AND THE CITY MAKES IT SEEM LIKE WOKE CAP IS LIKE THIS GREAT BIBLE THAT WE GOTTA GO BY, RIGHT? THAT EVERYBODY UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.
UH, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE FOUGHT VERY HARD DURING WOKE CAP VERY, VERY HARD.
UH, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS GONNA BE BIG APARTMENTS, SIX STORIES.
WE, WE TALKED THEM DOWN TO FINALLY THREE STORIES.
AND DURING THAT TIME THEY ALSO TOLD US THAT IF WE WERE NOT IN AGREEANCE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK RIGHT HERE AT CPC DURING THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS AND, AND GIVE OUR THOUGHTS.
SO WOKE CAP WAS NOT A, A GREAT GIVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE ALL AGREED ON THAT WE ALL LOVE, RIGHT? WOKE CAP, WE FOUGHT HARD, WE FOUGHT HARD TO EVEN HAVE SOME LATINAS ON THAT BOARD BECAUSE IT WAS MADE UP BY A LOT OF, BY A LOT OF DEVELOPERS, RICH DEVELOPERS THAT AREN'T EVEN FROM O CLIFF.
AND WE FOUGHT HARD TO GET THIS LADY RIGHT HERE, YOLANDA LADA, AND SHE KNOWS THAT WCAP WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT A, A GIFT TO THE PEOPLE.
UM, I THINK THIS AREA SHOULD BE THE AUTHORIZED AND I ALSO THINK THE OTHER AREA SHOULD BE THE AUTHORIZED.
UH, AND THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MS. ALAMEDA, HOW LONG ARE Y'ALL GIVING US? DID WE GET OUR FULL? THREE MINUTES.
YOLANDA LAA, I RESIDE AT 1607 SOUTH TYLER STREET, 7 5 2 2 4.
UM, I SUPPORT DEAUTHORIZATION OBVIOUSLY OF THIS AREA.
UM, IT'S OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE, THE STRING OF AREAS THAT WE FOUGHT VERY HARD FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY DISCUSSION, AND SO I DO SUPPORT IT.
I, I DO WANNA SAY, TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, AND I APPRECIATE, UM, CPC COMMISSIONER FORCES FOR TRYING TO GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, THE REASON I SHARED THE MAP WITH YOU WAS TO SHOW THAT THROUGHOUT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU JUST APPROVED THE ZONING, THERE WAS REPRESENTATION IN ALL OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION TO THAT CASE TO SAY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS DON'T ALWAYS SPEAK FOR THE BA ALL OF THE MEMBERS.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU GUYS TAKE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE CONTINUE IN OAK CLIFF TO, UM, FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 21 Z 180 9 1 43? I THINK WE HAVE ONE OTHER PERSON SIGNED TO SPEAK ONLINE.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, MR. CHAIR NOT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN CASE NUMBER Z 180 9? 1 43? I MOVE TO DE DENY AUTHORIZING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER SCHOCK, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER.
HOUSEWRIGHT, ANY DISCUSSION COLLEAGUES? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.
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THE MINUTES YET? ALRIGHT, ARE WE READY TO MAKE MOTIONS ON OUR MINUTES? OKAY.ALRIGHT, WE WILL HOLD OUR MINUTES UNDER ADVISEMENT.
CAN WE GET A MOTION TO HOLD OUR MINUTES UNDER ADVISEMENT? OH, ARE YOU
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PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION IN THE MINUTES? COMMISSIONER HALL, I I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION IF YOU TRUST ME TO REVIEW THE MINUTES, BUT IF YOU, I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, THE MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY THE 13TH, 2025 ARE CORRECT AND, UH, MS. LOPEZ HAS, UH, RECENT, UH, TODAY ISSUED CORRECTED MINUTES FOR UH, THREE, UH, MARCH 20TH, 25 AND APRIL 10TH.WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION AS TO, I WILL MAKE A MOTION THREE MINUTES TO APPROVE THOSE THREE SETS OF MINUTES IF THE COMMISSION IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HALL THAT I'VE SECONDED TO APPROVE OUR FEBRUARY 13TH, 20TH AND APRIL 10TH, 20, 25 MINUTES.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO HOLD THE REMAINING MINUTES UNDER ADVISEMENT PLEASE? ALRIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOUSER THAT I'VE SECONDED TO HOLD OUR FEBRUARY 6TH, FEBRUARY 20TH, MARCH 4TH AND MARCH 6TH MEETING MINUTES UNDER ADVISEMENT.
UM, I'LL JUST MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT IF YOU COULD RECIRCULATE THOSE TO THE BODY, UM, MS. UH, MS. LOPEZ, UM, PERHAPS SOMEONE CAN DIG IN AND REVIEW THOSE IN ADVANCE OF OUR NEXT MEETING.
I WOULD VOLUNTEER, BUT I WILL ACTUALLY BE OUT ON, ON MAY 8TH.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A VOLUNTEER THERE TO CLEAR OUT OUR LONGSTANDING MINUTE BACKLOG.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.
ANY OPPOSING NAY? THOSE MEETING MINUTES ARE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
SO IT IS 3:31 PM AND THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLANNING COMMISSION IS ADJOURNED.