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OKAY.

[Permit and License Appeal Board on May 15, 2025.]

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GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE HEARING OF THE PERMIT AND LICENSE APPEAL BOARD FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT IS 8 37 ON THURSDAY, MAY 15TH, 2025.

WE HAVE ONE HEARING ON TODAY'S AGENDA FOR KALU DISCO TECH, LLC, APPEALING THE DENIAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR LATE HOURS PERMIT.

UH, AT THIS TIME, I'LL DO A ROLL CALL IF PRESENT, PLEASE SAY, HERE, I'M PRESENT.

UH, VICE CHAIR TORRES.

UH, MS. KYLE.

THANK YOU, MS. THOMAS.

HERE.

MR. JEFFERSON? YES.

MR. ILLA.

MR. JEFFS HERE.

MR. HAYES? HERE.

MR. QUINT? HERE.

MS. SHIN.

MR. GONZALEZ? HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

ABSENT FROM THE HEARING ARE MR. TORRES, MR. ILLA AND MS. SHIN.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT AND THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.

WILL THE OTHERS PRESENT AT TODAY'S HEARING? PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES BEGINNING WITH THE BOARD GENERAL COUNSEL.

GOOD MORNING.

DANIEL MOORE, UH, BOARD GENERAL COUNSEL AND FROM THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.

AMIR, AVA MARTINEZ, NANCY SANCHEZ.

DONNA BROWN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE APPELLANT, UH, ROGER ALBRIGHT FOR THE APPELLATE.

AND WITH ME IS SAUL CARDONA, UH, THE OWNER OF KULA.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

AND FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, MATTHEW STRINGER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

DETECTIVE MONTERIO, DELLA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS WHO HAVE REGISTERED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.

UH, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO.

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE APRIL 3RD, 2025 MEETING.

IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING THE MEETING MINUTES FOR APRIL 3RD, 2025? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

UH, MOTION BY MR. QUINT.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND.

UH, MR. JEFFERSON, UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION MR. QUINT? NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION? NO.

ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FOR THE MOTION? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES FOR THE APRIL 3RD, 2025 MEETING, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE SAY NAY.

ALL RIGHT.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UM, THEY ARE APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPEAL HEARING FOR KALU DISCOTECH.

UH, THE BURDEN OF PROOF FOR THIS HEARING IS ON THE APPELLANT AT THIS TIME, WILL THE WITNESSES WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IN THE HEARING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.

DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE BEFORE THIS BOARD TODAY WILL BE THE TRUTH? YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND JUST A REMINDER, IF ANYONE IS SPEAKING, MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF ON YOUR MIC SO IT'S HEARD FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, MARY.

AND IF YOU'RE A BOARD MEMBER, WHEN WE TAKE THE VOTE, REMEMBER TO UNMUTE YOURSELF.

UM, MR. ALBRIGHT, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU NEED FOR, UH, MR CARE? UH, LESS THAN 15, 15 MINUTES.

OKAY.

IS THAT ENOUGH FOR THE CITY? THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THAT.

THEN, UH, WE'LL DO 1515 PER SIDE.

AND, UM, THE EXHIBITS, LET'S SEE.

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I'M PULLING THEM UP HERE, MR. ALBRIGHT, BUT WE'VE GOT, I, I SEE TWO EXHIBITS, IS THAT SHOULD BE CORRECT? YES.

THAT, THAT THE OUTLINE AND THEN BEYOND THAT LETTER OF SUPPORT.

GREAT.

YEP.

AND, UH, MR. STRINGER, I SEE ONE EXHIBIT FOR THE CITY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OR ONE DOCUMENT.

ONE DOCUMENT WITH I, UH, BELIEVE, UH, EIGHT TABS.

OKAY.

AND, UH, THOSE ARE ACCEPTED.

UM, MR. MOORE, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE RELEVANT ORDINANCE? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

TODAY YOU HAVE, BEFORE YOU AN APPEAL OF A DENIAL OF A DANCE HALL LATE HOURS PERMIT.

THE BOARD MAY REVERSE THE DECISION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND GRANT THE EXEMPTION FROM THE LOCATIONAL RESTRICTIONS FOR A LATE HOUR PERMIT.

IF THIS BOARD FINDS THE FOLLOWING, ONE, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DANCE HALL WILL NOT HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON NEARBY PROPERTY OR BE CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY OR WELFARE.

TWO.

THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DANCE HALL WILL NOT DOWNGRADE THE PROPERTY VALUE OR QUALITY OF LIFE IN ANY ADJACENT AREA OR ENCOURAGED THE DEVELOPMENT OF URBAN BLIGHT.

THREE.

THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DANCE HALL OPERATING UNDER THE LATE HOURS PERMIT IN THE AREA WILL NOT BE CONTRARY TO ANY PROGRAM OF NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION OR INTERFERE WITH ANY URBAN RENEWAL OR RESTORATION.

AND FOR ALL APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 14 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE WILL BE OBSERVED.

THANK YOU.

UM, ALRIGHT.

MR. ALBRIGHT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BEGIN WITH A BRIEF OPENING STATEMENT? UH, NO, YOUR HONOR.

I'D JUST, UH, I'LL CALL MY WITNESS AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE.

UH, MR. STERNER, DO YOU HAVE ANY OPENING STATEMENT? NO OPENING STATEMENT, MR. GERALD.

ALRIGHT, THEN LET'S PROCEED.

YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES.

UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

I, UH, I CALL, UH, SAL CARDONA, UH, AS BY WITNESS, PLEASE.

UH, UM, MI MR. CARDONA, WHAT'S YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH? UH, KULA THE PRESIDENT, CEO.

OKAY.

AND, UH, YOU'VE BEEN THERE FOR 16 YEARS? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

UH, DURING ALL THAT TIME, YOU'VE NEVER HAD A DANCE HALL LICENSE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO.

LIKEWISE, TABC, UH, HAS, HAS NO ISSUES WITH YOU.

YOU'VE NOT HAD, UH, YOUR TABC LICENSE REVOKED? NO.

SUSPENDED.

OKAY.

UM, AND KUA IS LOCATED, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION OF WEST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, UH, AND HARRY HINES? YES.

UH, COMMERCIAL AREA? YES.

AND YOU'RE LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF A, A MULTI-BUILDING SHOPPING CENTER? RIGHT.

OKAY.

UH, AND, UH, YOU EMPLOYED, DEPENDING ON THE DAY, AND I I KNOW YOU, YOU CORRECTED ME, UH, YOU'RE NO LONGER OPEN ON THURSDAY, BUT ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, YOU EMPLOY ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO SIX, UH, OFF-DUTY DPD OFFICERS? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THEN LIKEWISE, INSIDE, UH, YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, YOUR, UH, SECURITY INSIDE? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THAT'S, UH, BECAUSE POLICE CAN'T COME INSIDE ? THEY WEREN'T THE OUTSIDE PART.

OKAY.

UH, AND, UH, ALL OF YOUR, UH, EMPLOYEES ARE TBC CERTIFIED? YES.

AND, AND WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, THAT MEANS THAT EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY CAN, UH, PICK UP, UH, WELL, THEY, THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE TRAINING.

THROUGH THE TRAINING, OKAY.

AND, AND LAW CERTIFICATE REGULATIONS.

COOL.

AND, UH, IF YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BE OPEN AFTER TWO, UH, AGAIN, THERE'S NO ALCOHOL SOLD, SERVED, OR ALLOWED ON THE PREMISES AFTER 2:00 AM.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

UH, AND, UH, AND OVER, UH, THESE YEARS, AND YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT, AT THE CITY'S INFORMATION, WE, AGAIN, ENJOY A LOW NUMBER OF POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE YES.

OR, OR ANY OTHER PROBLEMS? YES.

OKAY.

UH, ARE COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORS US? YES.

OKAY.

AND WHY WE'VE HAD TO BE COMING HERE THE LAST FEW YEARS IS WE DISCOVERED, OR MORE CORRECTLY, CITY DISCOVERED THERE'S A MOBILE HOME PARK WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

CAN YOU SEE THAT MOBILE HOME PARK FROM KAA? NO.

CAN THE MOBILE HOME PARK SEE YOU? NO.

AND, AND WHY NOT? UH, THERE'S A, WE'RE THE, THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.

RIGHT.

AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER BUILDING, AND WE HAVE THE STREET AND WE HAVE SEVEN 11 THE CREEK, AND THEN THE MOBILE HOMES.

RIGHT.

THERE'S, THERE'S A CREEK RUNNING THROUGH, AND AS A RESULT, A LOT OF VEGETATION AND RIGHT.

UH, HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

UH,

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AND, UH, AS FAR AS YOUR, UH, UH, HAVE YOU EVER HAD ANYBODY FOR THE MOBILE HOME PARK, UH, COMPLAINT ABOUT KALU? NO.

OKAY.

UH, AND AS FAR AS YOUR COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORS, UH, ARE THEY, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF KALUA HAVING A LATE HOURS PERMIT? YES.

OKAY.

AND WHAT, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO HAVE LATE HOURS? THAT'S SORT OF A LESS, UH, CHAOS WHEN PEOPLE ARE LEAVING LITTLE BY LITTLE INSTEAD OF SHUTTING OFF AT OKAY.

AT TWO O'CLOCK AND EVERYBODY COMING OUT AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY.

AND, UH, UH, HOW MANY, UH, HOW MANY CUSTOMERS DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE OVER A TYPICAL WEEKEND? UH, PROBABLY AROUND 4,000, SO.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, EXCELLENT.

OKAY.

UH, I PASS THE WITNESS.

UH, THANK YOU MR. BERT.

MR. STERNER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARDONA? UH, NO QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR.

OKAY.

UM, WE WILL GO WITH, UH, THROUGH THE BOARD IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS WITH MR. CARDONA.

UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH THREE MINUTES.

FIRST, UH, MS. KYLE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT, MS. THOMAS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARD? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

UM, JUST, UH, LOOKING AT THE EXHIBITS, EXHIBIT ONE, UH, WANTED TO KNOW, UH, ABOUT THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT AND HOW IT AFFECTS YOUR RESIDENCE OR AFFECTS THE LICENSE PERMIT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO OBTAIN.

IS IT NEAR THERE? UM, THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE APART OF THIS COLD ENVIRONMENT? YY YES, MA'AM.

THE, THE CREEK THAT, UH, THAT MR. CARDONA, UH, SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER, UH, THAT CREEK IS, IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE SHOPPING CENTER.

AND SO, UH, THAT'S THE REASON, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SEE THE MOBILE HOME PARK.

MOBILE HOME PARK CAN'T SEE US BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THIS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, THERE'S A, THE CREEK GOING THROUGH THERE, IT'S BEEN BUILT UP WITH THIS HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT.

UH, SO THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T GET THERE FROM HERE AS FAR AS GOING FROM KALUTA TO THE MOBILE HOME PARK.

UH, AND UH, THAT'S WHY, I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T REALIZE FOR YEARS IT WAS EVEN THERE AND THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO COME TO YOU FOLKS AND, AND SEEK AN EXHIBITION.

UH, BUT YEAH, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR A DOZEN YEARS BEFORE APPOINTMENTS CAME UP.

OKAY.

HAVE YOU HAD ANY RECENT COMPLAINTS, I NOTICED HERE THAT THERE HAD BEEN SOME IN THE PAST, BUT HAVE YOU HAD ANY RECENT COMPLAINTS FROM THE MOBILE HOME PARK REGARDING THE NOISE OR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE, THE DISCO TECH AND IT'S AFTER HOURS? NO, MA'AM.

IT'S A BIT HARD TO HEAR THE LADY WHO'S SPEAKING.

OH, HER MICROPHONE WASN'T ON.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WE'LL FIX IT.

I HAVE TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

I'M SORRY, .

IT'S ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

WHICH, WHICH PART DID YOU NOT, WHAT DID THEY NOT HEAR? CAN, CAN YOU HEAR HER NOW, MS. KYLE? YES.

IT, I, I COULD HEAR HER.

IT WAS JUST SOUNDED LIKE, I GUESS IT WAS COMING FROM SOMEBODY ELSE'S MICROPHONE, SO, YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S MY, THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAD.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. JEFFERSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE APPELLANT? NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. JEFFS NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. HAYES.

YEAH.

JUST REAL BRIEFLY, UH, FIRST OF ALL, MR. CARDONA, I RECALL YOUR PRESENTATION TO US A YEAR AGO, AND WE, UH, WE WERE ALL VERY IMPRESSED AND CONSIDER YOU ACTUALLY AN ASSET RATHER THAN A DETRIMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

I LOOKED OVER THE LAST YEAR'S POLICE REPORT, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY SERIOUS CONCERNS WITH THAT.

UM, HA.

HAS ANYTHING CHANGED IN THE LAST YEAR WITH REGARD TO YOUR OWN SECURITY, THE PHYSICAL LAYOUT OR YOUR OPERATING PROCEDURES FROM A YEAR AGO? NO.

PRETTY, PRETTY DOING THE SAME THING, TRYING TO KEEP THE PLACE CONTAINED WITH THE DPD AND OUR OWN SECURITY INSIDE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THE PHYSICAL LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING HAS NOT CHANGED, RIGHT? OH, NOT AT ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. HAYES.

MR. QUINT, NO CHAIRS.

THA NO, NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT, MR. GONZALEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS FOR ME.

ALL.

UM, MY ONLY QUESTION, MR. ALBRIGHT, ARE YOU, YOU'RE STILL APPLYING FOR A ONE YEAR YES.

EXEMPTION, CORRECT? UH, YES.

MR. CARE, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE YEARS OF OBTAINING A LATE HOURS PERMIT, AND AFTER YOU HAVE THREE YEARS, YOU CAN THEN START ASKING FOR A TWO YEAR, UH, RENEWAL PERIOD.

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OKAY.

UH, THIS WOULD BE OUR THIRD TIME.

OKAY.

SO, SO NEXT YEAR YOU CAN ASK AND I MUST BE GETTING OLD 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS WERE HERE THREE MONTHS AGO.

I, I DID, I DID TOO.

, I MEAN, I, I I TRULY WAS GOING LIKE, YEAH.

WAIT A MINUTE.

WE, YEAH, WE WERE THERE.

I, I REMEMBER WE WERE ALL RIGHT HERE.

.

HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? IT'S LIKE DEJA VU.

OKAY.

ALL OVER AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, IF NOBODY ON THE BOARD HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS, UM, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE CITY'S PRESENTATION, MR. STRINGER.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, THE CITY WILL CALL, UH, DETECTIVE MONTREAL AS OF OUR WITNESS.

UM, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? NAME'S? UH, GERARDO MONTREAL.

AND HOW ARE YOU EMPLOYED? I'M EMPLOYED WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT VICE LICENSING UNIT, AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER, UH, FOUR YEARS.

AND WHAT ARE YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE VICE UNIT? UH, WITH VICE UNIT, WE, UH, WORK ON ALL TYPES OF, UH, UH, LICENSING PERMITS, WHICH ARE YOUR DANCE HALL, BID HALL, UH, SOBS, UH, LATE HOURS, UH, AMUSEMENT CENTER LICENSES.

SO WE TEND TO PROCESS, GET THE APPLICATIONS, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE DOCUMENTS ARE THERE, AND THEN PROCESS THEM.

OKAY.

AND, UH, DID YOU REVIEW THE APPLICATION FOR, UH, KALUS UM, DANCEHALL LATE HOUR PERMIT? YES, I DID.

AND IF WE COULD TURN TO TAB ONE.

UM, COULD YOU BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE, UH, APPLICANT'S OR K'S APPLICATION HISTORY? UH, KALU ACTUALLY ON 4 21 OF 22 A PLA HERE, AND GRANTED THEM A ONE HOUR LATE HOURS PERMIT ON DECEMBER.

THE, UH, 2023.

THAT'S HOW LATE HOURS APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED, UH, ON JANUARY OF 20 20, 24.

THAT'S HOW PERMIT WAS APPROVED WITH THE LATE HOURS, UH, DENIED AGAIN, UH, FEBRUARY 24.

UH, THE LATE HOURS DENIAL APPEAL, UH, DATE WAS SCHEDULED FOR APPLY OF HEARING ON MAY 24, APPLY, GRANTED THEM AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE YEAR, UH, PERMIT MARCH OF THIS YEAR, 2025.

UH, THERE A, THEY SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION FOR THEIR DANCE HALL ON LATE HOURS AGAIN, UM, APRIL OF THIS YEAR, THEIR DANCE HALL WAS APPROVED.

LATE HOURS WAS DENIED AGAIN 'CAUSE THE, UH, UH, AGAIN, THE SAME ISSUE.

PROPERTY IS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A SAME TRAILER PARK.

AND THEN TURNING TO TAB TWO, UM, IS THIS A COPY OF THE APPLICATION, UM, FOR LATE HOURS PERMIT THAT YOU REVIEWED? YES, SIR.

YES, IT'S, UM, AND AFTER REVIEW, WHAT, WHY WAS THE, UH, LATE HOURS PERMIT DENIED? UH, LATE HOURS WERE DENIED.

IT WAS A AUTOMATIC DENIAL ONLY 'CAUSE THE PROPERTY STILL LIES WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH IS THAT, UH, TRAILER PARK, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH THEY WERE CORRECT.

THERE'S A, UH, CREEK, UH, YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE 'EM.

YOU HAVE TO DRIVE OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, OF THE SHOPPING CENTER, GO ALL THE WAY AROUND AND TRY TO GET TO THAT TR UH, TRAILER PARK.

AND TURNING TO TAB FOUR, UM, LOOKS LIKE ONE, TWO, THE THIRD PAGE IS A, A, UH, BLACK AND WHITE MAP OF, UM, COULD YOU DESCRIBE THIS MAP BRIEFLY AND JUST THE LOCATION, UH, OF THE TRAILER PARK IN RELATION TO THE KAA? THIS IS THE, UH, LAND SURVEY.

THEY, UH, CITY DOES, UH, THE CIRCULAR, UH, UH, CIRCULAR, UH, C UH, SHOWS THE DISTANCE ABOUT A THOUSAND FEET.

AND THAT MOBILE HOME PARK IS JUST WITHIN THAT 1000 FEET.

UM, THERE IS A, THE PROPERTY, UH, KA LIES INSIDE A ALMOST A CENTER OF A SHOPPING CENTER.

YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER BUILDINGS, AND THEN YOU HAVE A LARGE BUSINESS, WHICH IS A CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS.

THAT'S BETWEEN THE TRAILER PARK AND THE KAA PLUS.

THEN YOU HAVE THE CREEK THAT ALSO LIES THERE.

SO IT'S THERE, IT'S A DISTANCE AWAY.

UM, AND AGAIN, IT IS A DENIAL FOR THAT LOCATION, LOCATIONAL RESTRICTION, DISCRETIONARY, THAT IT IS NOT DISCRETIONARY.

IT'S AN AUTOMATIC DENIAL.

ONLY 'CAUSE IT, IT LIES WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.

TURNING TO TAB FIVE, UM, DOES THIS DOCUMENT THE, UH, POLICE CALLS FOR THE LOCATION? YES, IT DOES.

OKAY.

AND COULD YOU DESCRIBE HOW MANY TOTAL CALLS, AND THEN HOW MANY OF, OF THOSE WERE RELATED TO, UH, KAA? UH, WE HAD 53 CALLS.

AGAIN, A LOT OF TIMES YOU, WE, WE MIGHT SEE A CALL, UH, 53, BUT NOT ALL THESE CALLS OF RUMOR, UH, OR SOME OF THEM, THEM ARE GONNA BE DUPLICATE.

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OTHER CALLS ARE GONNA BE POLICE SHOWS UP AND NOBODY'S THERE.

UM, FROM THESE CALLS ON THE 14, UH, OF THOSE 53, THERE WERE OFFENSE REPORTS GENERATED OUT OF THOSE, UH, FOUR OF THOSE DID NOT COME FROM KAA, BUT THE SURROUNDING OTHER PROPERTIES, UM, KAA DOES HAVE EMPLOYEE, UH, OFFICERS, DPD OFFICERS.

SO IN THAT SHOPPING CENTER, A LOT OF TIMES IS THERE'S AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURS AT A DIFFERENT BUSINESS.

A LOT OF TIMES THOSE, UH, INDIVIDUALS WILL WALK OR GO TO WHERE THE OFFICERS ARE, WHICH ARE LOCATED IN KAA.

UH, A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL MAKE THE REPORT THERE AND THAT'S WHY IT SHOWS.

BUT AGAIN, OUT OF THOSE, UH, 14 OFFENSE REPORTS OR REPORTS THAT WERE GENERATED, FOUR OF THOSE WERE NOT FOR KAA.

SO KALU ONLY HAD A TOTAL OF 10.

AND BETWEEN THE HOURS OF TWO TO, UH, 4:00 AM WHICH IS FOR THE LATE HOURS, THERE WAS ONLY 11 CALLS OUT OF THOSE, THERE WAS ONLY FOUR REPORTS THAT WERE GENERATED.

TURNING TO TAB SIX, UM, COULD YOU DESCRIBE JUST BRIEFLY THE, UH, THE, UM, WHAT THIS DOCUMENT SHOWS? I MADE AN OFFENSE, UH, BREAKDOWN OF THE OFFICES THAT WERE GENERATED FOR, UH, UH, FOR THAT ONE YEAR.

AND THERE WAS ONLY EIGHT OFFENSES.

AND I GAVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THOSE OFFICES WERE, WHICH IS A FIRST ONE WAS A WANT TO LOCATE SOMEBODY.

UH, INDIVIDUAL GOES THERE, DOESN'T GET HOME.

SO SOMEBODY'S CONCERNED IN TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY AT.

SO THEY CALL POLICE FOR THAT.

UH, THERE WAS AN ASSAULT.

THAT ASSAULT THAT OCCURRED DID NOT OCCUR AT THE KAA.

AGAIN, IT HAPPENED AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UH, WALKED TO OFFICERS.

OFFICERS ARE THEN, UH, MAKE A REPORT.

UH, WE DID, UH, HAVE A DISTURBANCE, UH, UH, DUPLICATE REPORT.

M-I-R-M-I-R.

JUST A COMPLAINT THAT WAS FOUND INTOXICATED.

THEY FOUND HIM A RIDE.

BUT OFFICERS DO MAKE A POLICE REPORT.

UH, UH, LET ME GO NUMBER.

I THINK I'M SKIPPING CERTAIN THINGS.

UM, UH, NUMBER SIX IS AN ASSAULT, UH, FEMALE WAS STRUCK INSIDE.

DETECTIVE, I'M SORRY, COULD YOU, COULD YOU MOVE THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER? CLOSER, YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, WE HAD A BURGLAR MOTOR VEHICLE AND THEN WE HAD A STOLEN VEHICLE OUT THERE.

AND OFFICERS TOOK THE REPORT THERE FOR THESE, UH, INDIVIDUALS.

UH, THE VEHICLE WAS FOUND LATER ON, BUT ON THAT STOLEN VEHICLE AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

AND THEN TURNING TO TAB SEVEN, UM, COULD YOU DESCRIBE THE, THE NUMBER OF POLICE REPORTS, UM, IN THAT YEAR PERIOD FROM 2:00 AM TO 4:00 AM OKAY.

I BROKE DOWN THE, UH, CALLS FROM, UH, FOR THE LATE HOURS FROM 2:00 AM TO 4:00 AM THERE WAS ONLY A TOTAL OF 11 CALLS, UH, GENERATED OR, UH, CALLS TO 9 1 1.

OUT OF THOSE, ONLY FOUR REPORTS WERE GENERATED.

UH, TWO OF THOSE REPORTS WERE ONLY ASSIGNED TO KAA OR KALUA RELATED.

UH, THE FOUR CALLS THAT WERE, UH, GENERAL REPORTS THAT WERE GENERATED, UH, WAS AN ASSAULT, UH, WHICH DID NOT OCCUR, OCCUR AT KAA.

THE SECOND ONE WAS A INTOXICATED PERSON WHERE, UH, WE, THE OFFICERS THERE MADE A POLICE REPORT 'CAUSE THEY, UH, CONTACTED A LOVED ONE OR A FAMILY MEMBER IF SOMEBODY CAME BY AND PICKED THEM UP.

UH, KAA UM, SECURITY ASSISTED WITH THAT, CONTACTING A RELATIVE AND NOT LETTING HIM DRIVE, WHICH THEY DO A GOOD JOB ON THAT.

UH, TRYING TO GET, UH, HELP FOR ANYBODY THAT NEEDS A ASSISTANCE.

UH, THIRD UH, CALL THAT CAME OUT WAS A STOLEN VEHICLE, WHICH WAS LATER ON RECOVERED AT A DIFFERENT, UH, LOCATION.

UH, THE FOURTH WAS AN ASSAULT, UH, AGAIN, THAT, THAT, THAT HAPPENED AT KAA HAPPENED AT A DIFFERENT PROPERTY THERE IN THE SHOPPING CENTER.

UH, AND I, UH, PROBABLY, AND I WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE OF THAT, THAT WE ACTUALLY ARE INVESTIGATING THAT OTHER PROPERTY, DPD.

AND BASED ON THE INCIDENTS AND OFFENSE REPORTS WE, WE'VE REVIEWED, WOULD YOU SAY THAT THERE'S A, A PATTERN OF CRIME AT THE LOCATION? NO, UH, NO CRIME, NO PATTERN AT ALL.

AND ASIDE FROM THE LOCATIONAL RESTRICTION OF, UM, BEING WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A, OF RESIDENTIAL AREA, UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER REASON TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S, UH, DANCEHALL LATE HOURS PERMIT? NO, SIR.

THERE'S NO REASON TO DENY THAT.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

PASS THE WITNESS.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. STRINGER.

DETECTIVE, UH, MR. ALBRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, UH, MR. CAR, I'LL WAIVE CROSS-EXAMINATION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE'LL THEN JUST PROCEED TO BOARD QUESTIONING.

WE'LL GO DOWN THE LIST LIKE BEFORE.

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UM, MS. KYLE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE CITY OR THE DETECTIVE? NO, DON'T.

MS. THOMAS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

MR. JEFFERSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UH, MR. JEFFS NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

MR. HAYES, NO QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO THANK, UH, DETECTIVE MONTREAL AGAIN FOR HIS SERVICE AND THE FACT THAT HE ALWAYS COMES TO THESE MEETINGS WELL PREPARED.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

I CONCUR.

UH, MR. QUINT, I ECHO MR. HAYES'S THOUGHTS AND NO QUESTIONS.

CHAIR.

THANK YOU MR. GONZALEZ.

NO QUESTIONS.

UH, JUST ONE QUESTION TO SUM UP, IF YOU COULD HAVE GRANTED THE, THE, UH, LATE HOURS PERMIT.

DETECTIVE, WOULD YOU HAVE? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, THEN, UH, I GUESS WE'LL SEE.

IS THERE A MOTION REGARDING THE, UH, DENIAL OF THE LATE HOURS PERMIT FOR KUA DISCO TECH? ANY, I MOVE THAT WE, GO AHEAD, MR. HAYES.

GO AHEAD.

UH, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, OVERRULE OR WHATEVER THE PROPER VERB IS, UH, POLICE CHIEF'S, UH, DENIAL OF THE LATE HOURS PERMIT AND GIVEN THE ONE YEAR EXTENSION.

OKAY, HAYES MOVES TO REVERSE THE DECISION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND GRANT A ONE YEAR EXEMPTION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

I HEARD MR. JEFFS FIRST, HE HAS THE ADVANTAGE OF TALKING IN MY EAR.

UM, UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION BEGINNING WITH YOU, MR. HAYES? DO YOU WANNA SPEAK IN FAVOR OF YOUR MOTION? UH, I THINK EVERYTHING'S BEEN SAID.

THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION? UH, ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK ON THE MOTION? NEITHER FOR OR AGAINST? ALL RIGHT, MR. JEFFS, YOU HAVE A SECOND? DID YOU WANNA SPEAK FOR THE MOTION? NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL.

ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THEN WE WILL MOVE TO THE VOTE.

UH, AND AGAIN, THE MOTION IS TO REVERSE THE DECISION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND GRANT KUA DISCOTECH, A ONE YEAR EXEMPTION FROM THE LOCATIONAL RESTRICTION.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR MICROPHONES ON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE SAY NAY.

UH, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UH, THOSE OF YOU ONLINE, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO LOOK IN YOUR EMAILS FOR THE DOCUSIGN.

AND, UH, TODAY'S HEARING IS CONCLUDED AT 9 0 4.

HOLY COW, THAT MIGHT BE A RECORD.