* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] GOOD [Citizen Homeless Commission on May 15, 2025.] EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION REGULAR BOARD MEETING. TODAY IS THURSDAY, MAY THE 15TH. IT IS NOW 1:09 PM I WILL NOW PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT THIS MEETING WILL BE RECORDED FOR ALL OF YOUR VIRTUAL VIEWERS. PLEASE KEEP YOUR CAMERA FACE VIEW TO BE PRESENT IN THIS MEETING. I WILL NOW TURN THIS MEETING OVER TO OUR CHAIR. LINDA AGAR. THANK YOU. RENITA ROSEWELL, PLEASE. SO ALL OF YOU THAT ARE VIRGIL, PLEASE IF YOU'RE PRESENT, UH, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY THAT YOU'RE PRESENT. VIRGIL. THANK YOU. DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER KEYS. YOU MAY WANNA ELEVATE YOUR VOLUME. DISTRICT TWO, CHAIR, GARNER PRESENT. DISTRICT FOUR. COMMISSIONER HAWK. PRESENT. THANK YOU. DISTRICT FIVE. COMMISSIONER SANTOS. DISTRICT SIX. COMMISSIONER FLORES. PRESENT VIRTUAL. THANK YOU. DISTRICT SEVEN, VICE CHAIR BROWN. DISTRICT NINE. REVEREND MITCHELL. BOOM. PRESENT? UH, VIRTUAL. THANK YOU. DISTRICT 10. COMMISSIONER WRIGHT. DISTRICT 11. COMMISSIONER OTTENHOFF. PRESENT. THANK YOU. DISTRICT 12. COMMISSIONER JACOB. PRESENT VIRTUAL. THANK YOU. DISTRICT 13. COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN. PRESENT DISTRICT 14 COMMISSIONER. STILL HOT MADAM CHAIR. YOU DO HAVE A QUORUM. YOU MAY PROCEED. OKAY. THANK YOU RENITA. UH, YOU HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT FOR THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION. LEGAL NOTICE HAS BEEN POSTED AND THIS MEETING HAS BEEN DULY CALLED. THE MEETING AGENDA HAS BEEN POSTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 5 5 1, THE OPEN MEETINGS OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. MADAM CHAIR, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY BRANCH SPEAKERS AT THIS TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE, UH, THE MISSION STATEMENT AND PURPOSE. THE PURPOSE OF THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION IS TO ASSURE PARTICIPATION FROM AND INCLUSION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH PAST OR PRESENT EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS IN ORDER TO DEVELOP POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF CITY SERVICES WITH REGIONAL SERVICES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY, QUALITY, AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY-WIDE RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS. OUR DUTIES, WE ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES AFFECTING HOMELESSNESS, ASSIST THE CITY IN EVALUATING NEW AND EXISTING PROGRAMS, COORDINATE WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL BODIES ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES ASSIGNED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY COUNCIL. UM, AND BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM THREE, UH, I JUST WANNA GIVE A QUICK RECOGNITION OF, UM, EVERYONE PRESENT HERE. UM, WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. SO SHE'S IN OUR AUDIENCE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT. UM, WE HAVE TWO CITY, UH, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS HERE. WE HAVE MARISSA HINES AND ELENA RUIZ. UM, WE HAVE CHRISTINE'S EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, NICOLE REID. YAY. AND OF COURSE WE HAVE OUR ESTEEM. NITA GRIGGS, SHE IS OUR BOARD LIAISON. UM, AND WE HAVE TWO PRESENTERS WHO ARE GONNA, ARE GONNA SEE LATER, OF COURSE, OFFICE HOME SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR CHRISTINE CROSLEY AND STORMY GONZALEZ. SO, UH, WITH THAT WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE. UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE MOVE TO, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE ANGELA . OKAY. I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO OPPOSE CHANGE THE MINUTES THAT, WELL, WE NEED A SECOND BEFORE WE GO TO DISCUSSION. THAT'S OKAY. SO I'LL SECOND IT WITH CHANGE. SO IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND AND ANY DISCUSSION. AND SO GIVEN THAT WE BRING OUR MISSION STATEMENT UP AT EVERY MEETING, CAN WE ADD THAT ONGOING TO THE OFFICIAL MINUTE RECORDS SO THAT IT SHOWS WHEN WE COME HERE, THAT THAT IS, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF OUR DOCUMENTS. IF WE'RE GONNA SPEAK TO IT, IT SHOULD BE ADDED JUST LIKE SOMA AND EVERYTHING ELSE. OKAY. SO YOU, YOU'RE SAYING THAT, UH, JUST ADDED VERBATIM INTO THE MEETING MINUTES? YES. OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. THANK YOU CHAIR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. UH, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. UH, ALL IN FAVOR. WE PASS THE MEETING MINUTES, UH, OF OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS DATED, UH, , APRIL 17TH AT 1:00 PM [00:05:01] UH, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSITION? OKAY. IT'S FRUIT. NEXT ITEM. UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. UH, THIS IS FROM OUR DIRECTOR OF OFFICE HALL SOLUTIONS, CHRISTINE CROSLEY, AND, UM, OUR COMMISSIONER DIANE DIANE EINSTEIN FROM DISTRICT 13. UH, THE PRESENTATION IS THE LOCAL CONTINUUM OF CARE OVERVIEW. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU ALL. UM, I AM, UH, COMMISSIONER DIANA EINSTEIN FROM DISTRICT 13. UM, AND AS A NEW MEMBER OF THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION LAST SUMMER, I WAS INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THE STRUCTURE OF HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS AND HOW IT CONNECTED TO OUR STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING. UM, I WAS ALSO EXTREMELY CURIOUS ABOUT HOW THE, THE PROCESS OF HOW DECISIONS ARE MADE AND WHO THE PLAYERS ARE. SO, AFTER A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH CHRISTINE, UM, SHE HAS CREATED THESE TWO ITEMS FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL STRUCTURE, HOW FUNDING IS REQUESTED, AND HOW WE AS COMMISSIONERS CAN GET INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS ITSELF. SO MY GOAL IS NOT ONLY TO EDUCATE THE COMMISSION, BUT OUR CITIZENS AS WELL. AND, UM, CHRISTINE WORKED DIRECTLY WITH HOUSING FORWARD ON THIS, UH, PRESENTATION FOR APPROVAL. SO WE WILL BE PLACING THIS ON THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION WEBSITE. UM, SO AS COMMISSIONERS, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPRESENTING AND REPORTING FROM OUR DISTRICTS, BUT ALSO BACK TO OUR DISTRICTS AND OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, WE ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND UP TO DATE. AND DURING THE PRESENTATION, I WANT TO IDENTIFY TWO SPECIFIC WAYS THAT WE AS COMMISSIONERS CAN GET INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. UM, I WANT TO THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GABE WILLIS FOR BEING HERE TODAY FOR APPOINTING ME AS THE COMMISSIONER AND FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT. AND I WANNA TURN IT OVER TO CHRISTINE TO PRESENT, UM, THESE STRUCTURES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. UH, CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR. HELLO, EVERYONE. UM, THIS WAS A NICE, A NICE WAY TO DO AN OVERVIEW THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD IN ONE PLACE BEFORE, AS DIANA SAID. SO THIS IS, UH, FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT. UM, SO WE CAN GO TO SLIDE ONE. YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME TALK BEFORE ABOUT HOW I DESCRIBE, UH, HUD AND THE COC AS KIND OF AN UMBRELLA, UM, THAT'S HELD UP BY HOUSING BOARD. SO THAT REALLY IS OUR BEST ANALOGY FOR THIS. UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT HAVING ONE APPROACH TO SOLVING HOMELESSNESS, THAT DIDN'T USED TO BE THE CASE. IT USED TO BE THAT WE HAD A CITY APPROACH, AND THEN THE COC HAD A DIFFERENT APPROACH, AND AN ECONOMIC FORUM MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER APPROACH. AND SO WE REALLY STROVE, UM, AROUND, UH, I WOULD SAY A LITTLE BIT BEFORE MY TIME, PROBABLY 2020, UH, EARLY 2021 TO BRING THIS ALL UP TO COHESIVE ALIGNMENT. AND SO THAT IS WHERE YOU SEE THE BEST WORKFLOW IS HUD IS, YOU KNOW, HUD IS OUR, UH, GOVERNING BODY. AND THEN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE WORKS, UH, REPORTING TO HUD AND THEY'RE FOCUSED ON PREVENTION, HOUSING, CREATING AND REHOUSING PEOPLE. SO IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS YOU MIGHT SEE IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE. NOT ALL OF THEM RECEIVE PROGRAMMATIC FUNDING FROM THE CONTINUUM OF CARE. SOME OF THEM ARE FUNDERS THEMSELVES, UM, OR OTHER MUNICIPAL OR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, BUT THEY ALL TOUCH HOMELESSNESS. AND SO THE MORE PEOPLE WE HAVE TALKING TOGETHER UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE COC, THE BETTER CONNECTED AND MORE EFFICIENT WE ARE. UH, SO YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM EDUCATION AND HOUSING DEVELOPERS TO YOUR TRADITIONAL SOCIAL SERVICE PROVIDERS IN CITIES, UH, COUNTIES, UH, TO HEALTH FACILITIES, PUBLIC HOUSING OR AUTHORITIES, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS. SO IT, IT SPANS THE GAMUT. AND OUR CURRENT COC HAS OVER 150 MEMBERS. SO WHAT IS THE COC? WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE COC IS A OR FEDERALLY. THE COC IS A CONTINUUM OF CARE. SO HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY HUD. THEY ARE OUR US DEPARTMENT THAT WE ALL REPORT UP TO. THEY REQUIRE COMMUNITIES TO ESTABLISH A REGIONAL CONTINUUM OF CARE OR COC, THAT'S OUR, OUR LOCAL UMBRELLA ORGANIZATION. THE SAME AS YOU MIGHT HAVE, UM, A STATE OR A CITY OR A COUNTY DESIGNATION. UM, THAT IS HOW WE RECEIVE FORMALLY RECEIVE, UH, FEDERAL AID DOLLARS, UM, AND OFFICIALLY PROMOTE OUR COMMUNITY WIDE GOAL OF ENDING HOMELESSNESS. OUR LOCAL COC IS CALLED THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION AND SPANS DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY. A CONTINUUM OF CARE MUST APPOINT A BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UM, AND THAT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MUST APPOINT A COLLABORATIVE, MUST APPOINT A COLLABORATIVE APPLICANT [00:10:01] OR LEAD AGENCY TO BE THE ONE WHO SENDS OUR COLLABORATIVE APPLICATION FOR HUD DOLLARS BACK TO HUD AND RUNS OUR HMIS OR HUMAN MANAGE, UH, HOMELESSNESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS. THAT LEAD AGENCY IS HOUSING FORD HOUSING FORD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSEMBLING THE ANNUAL COMMUNITY WIDE APPLICATION FOR FUNDING, WHICH WE'LL GET TO IN A BIT, COORDINATING OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE AND BOARD DATA MANAGEMENT REPORTING, PERFORMANCE EVALUATION, AND PROMOTING SYSTEM PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT UNDER A UNIFIED STRATEGY TO END HOMELESSNESS. SO LET'S GO TO SLIDE FIVE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE VISUALLY. SO VISUALLY, EVERYTHING STARTS WITH THIS CONTINUUM OF CARE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND FLOWS UP TO THIS CONTINUUM OF CARE BOARD. AND ALL OF THAT IS ASSISTED BY HOUSING BOARD. SO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE AT GENERAL ASSEMBLY, AND WE'LL GO OVER WHAT THIS IS IN A MINUTE, IS EVERY SINGLE ORGANIZATION THAT BELONGS TO THE COC, IT'S ALSO OPEN. SO YOU CAN ATTEND, IF YOU'RE CURIOUS, CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSIONERS, UH, WORK WITH OHS, YOU HAVE, YOU HOLD A CITY OFFICE. SO YOU ARE ABLE TO GO TO THESE GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEETINGS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. UM, OFTEN THEY'RE IN PERSON, SOMETIMES THEY'RE ONLINE, SOMETIMES THEY'RE HYBRID. SO THEY'RE USUALLY PRETTY EASY TO MAKE AND SIT IT ON, UM, THAT GENERAL ASSEMBLY IDEAS, THAT'S WHERE THEY PERCOLATE. AND THEN THEY FLOW UP, UM, INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION WORK GROUPS, UM, AT THE SAME TIME HOUSING BOARD AND THE COC BOARD WORK TO SET THE OVERALL POLICIES, UH, AND OPERATION RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE YEAR. UM, AND THEN THOSE ARE IMPLEMENTED AND COME DOWN TO THE IMPLEMENTATION WORK GROUPS AS WELL. UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE GOVERNANCE AND NOMINATING COMMITTEE. SO CONTINUUM OF CARE BOARD. UM, THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS A SEAT ON THAT. EVERY MUNICIPAL ENTITY HAS A SEAT ON THE COC BOARD. UH, BUT THEN EVERYBODY ELSE IS ELECTED IN. AND SO EVEN WITH US, IF SOMEONE, IF SOMETHING TURNS OVER, THE GOVERNMENT'S NOMINATING COMMITTEE SWEARS PEOPLE IN, KEEPS TRACK WHO'S ON THE BOARD FOR HOW LONG AND WHO'S ROLLING ON THE COC ASSEMBLY EXECUTIVE COUNCIL. UM, THAT IS A LOT OF THE VARIOUS CEOS AND HEAVY HITTERS. AND AGAIN, MUNICIPAL ENTITIES. WE HAVE A SEAT ON THAT AS WELL, WHO ARE ELECTED IN BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO REALLY BE THE CHANGE MAKERS ON THE GROUND. SO WE MEET, UM, THINK EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND IT REALLY IS JUST, HEY, HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON. AND SO THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE ON THE GROUND DOING THE WORK. WE CAN AFFECT REAL CHANGE AT THAT LEVEL VERY QUICKLY. INDEPENDENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, THIS IS A COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS THE COLLABORATIVE APPLICATION, SO WE'LL GET TO THAT. UM, BUT WHEN THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SCORING COMMITTEES WHO RANK EVERYTHING AND HOW IS IT PERFORMING. UM, VERY, VERY FORMULATE SAME AS YOU WOULD WITH ANY GRANT PROCESSES. SO THIS IS OUR INDEPENDENT REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT FORMS THE COLLABORATIVE APPLICATION. AND THEN I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION WORK GROUPS. SO USE THAT STRUCTURE AS YOU'RE GOING TO SLIDE SIX, AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW THIS WORKS. THERE WE GO. SO, AS I SAID, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS, OR THE ALL THAT MAKES UP THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION IS OVER 150 PUBLIC, PRIVATE NONPROFIT MEMBERS. WE HAVE A MONTHLY COALITION MEETING, UH, IMPLEMENTATION WORK GROUPS. THAT IS HOW THE ALL NEIGHBORS MEMBERS IMPLEMENT TESTS AND ITERATE SOLUTIONS TO HOMELESSNESS. SO THEY RECOMMEND POLICY AND PRACTICE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE COC BOARD. UM, A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT IS WHEN WE HAD THE FUNDING COME IN FROM YHDP, YOUTH HOMELESSNESS DEMONSTRATION PROJECT, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, UM, THEY SAID, OKAY, GREAT. YOU LIKE YOUR APPLICATION NOW YOU NEED A YEAR OF IMPLEMENTATION. UM, AND THEN ONCE YOU SUBMIT YOUR PLAN, WE WILL GIVE YOU THE FUNDING. WELL, ALL OF THE, THE, THE PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO ALL CAME FROM THE YOUTH ADVOCACY BOARD, WHICH IS ONE OF THE WORK GROUPS. AND IT IS ALL YOUTH 18 TO 24 WHO ARE BEING COMPENSATED FOR THEIR TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE FORMERLY HOMELESS OR HAVE BEEN HOMELESS. SO WE DON'T WANNA BE ACCIDENTALLY EXPLOITATIVE TO REFORMING THAT AND SAYING, HEY, THANK YOU FOR HELPING US AS, YOU KNOW, UH, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS OR HELP HELPING US PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. WE AS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WILL DEVELOP THIS POLICY AND WE'LL PULL YOU ALL IN AS WE NEED YOU. SO I'VE ATTENDED A WORKING GROUP WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS GROUP LED BY THEIR HOUSE BOARD LIAISON, ASKED US LOTS OF QUESTIONS, HAD US WORK WITH THEM ON HOW INFORMA INFORMATION FLOWS, DOUBLECHECK THEIR UNDERSTANDINGS, AND THEN SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GO AWAY. WE WILL GO DEVELOP THIS, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND WE CAN TEST IT AGAIN. AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THESE WORK GROUPS ARE HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE THE LIVED EXPERIENCE, UM, OR HAVE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, UH, NO. RIGHT? AND, AND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND THE WORK GROUPS ARE WHERE WE AS COMMISSIONERS CAN ACTUALLY USE OUR EXPERIENCE AND WHAT WE'RE LEARNING HERE AND BRING IT BACK TO THE CITY TO ACTUALLY INFLUENCE THE DECISIONS [00:15:01] THAT ARE BEING MADE. YEP. YEP. BRING IT TO THE COC. RIGHT? EXACTLY. YEAH. UM, THE COC EXECUTIVE COUNCIL, AS I SAID, THESE ARE LEADERS FROM AGENCIES THAT REPRESENT ALL COMPONENTS OF THE COC. UM, AND THAT'S OUR LOCAL KIND OF PULSE CHECK ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND ABLE, THEY'RE ABLE TO INFORM, UH, INFORM WHAT'S GOING ON AND TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT'S NOT. AND THEN CHAMPION PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT STRATEGIES. LOCALLY, AS I SAID, FOR THE COC BOARD, THIS IS THE DECISION MAKING BODY THAT DOES FUNDING PRIORITIES AND OPERATING POLICIES. THEIR FORMAL ROLE IS TO EVALUATE SYSTEMS PERFORMANCE, ADOPT AND MANAGE ANNUAL PRIORITIES, MAKE FUNDING ALLOCATION DECISIONS, AND IMPROVE COLLABORATIVE APPLICATION TO THE HUD NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY OR NOFO. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE NOFO IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS A COMPLICATED LOOKING PROCESS, AND ON THE GROUND IT IS COMPLICATED, BUT WHAT YOU GUYS NEED TO KNOW IS THAT, UM, EVERY TWO YEARS NOW, IT USED TO BE ANNUALLY CUT SAYS, HEY, WE'RE GONNA DO A NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, AND THEY NEED A COLLABORATIVE APPLICATION FROM EVERY COC. IT USED TO BE THAT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE WOULD PUT OUT A SOLICITATION AND SAY, HEY, HERE ARE THE, SEND US AN APPLICATION. IF YOU ARE JUST RENEWING YOUR PROJECT, SEND US A NEW APPLICATION. IF YOU HAVE A NEW IDEA, AND HERE'S SOME FUNDING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, BONUS FUNDING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS, OH, WELL, THIS YEAR WE WANNA PROMOTE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROJECTS, UH, AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. SO MAYBE THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, AN EXTRA 2 MILLION OR 7 MILLION AVAILABLE UP TO 7 MILLION AVAILABLE IF YOU CAN DO THAT. OR, YOU KNOW, DIVERSION IS REALLY SUCCESSFUL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DIVERSION BONUS THIS YEAR. AND WE WOULD JUST HAVE EVERYBODY APPLY. THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW COMMITTEE WOULD SAY, THESE ARE GOOD, THESE ARE NOT, HERE'S HOW THEY SHOULD BE TIERED. AND THEY WOULD ALL GO TO HUD AND HUD WOULD FUND SOME, BUT NOT ALL. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, UH, IN LINE WITH, WHEN WE REALLY STARTED, UH, WORKING ON THE D-R-T-R-R IN 2021 DALLAS REALTIME RAPID REHOUSING INITIATIVE, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOTICED THAT WHAT WORKS BETTER IS WHEN EVERYBODY'S WORKING TOGETHER. SO NOW WE NEED YOU TO APPLY AS A COMMUNITY, AND WE NEED TO SEE THE CONNECTED TISSUE BETWEEN ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, AND WE WILL FUND YOU WHOLLY OR NOT AT ALL. AND EVERY YEAR WE HAVE BEEN FUNDED. WE ARE THE, I THINK WE'RE THE TOP THIRD FORMER OVERALL IN THE US BEHIND NEW YORK AND LA BUT DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT. UH, AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE TAKE THAT PROCESS, WE DO THE APPLICATIONS, WE JUDGE WHO'S GONNA DO WHAT, BUT IT'S ALL BASED ON THE PRIORITIES SET BY HOUSING BOARD TO THE BOARD SAYING, HERE IS WHAT HUT IS ASKING FOR. HERE ARE THE BEST PRACTICES THAT THEY WANT US TO PROMOTE. HERE IS WHAT WE KNOW WORKS LOCALLY. WE'VE SET THESE PRIORITIES FOR THE YEARS TO, FOR THE YEAR TO ENSURE THAT THEY MAKE SENSE LOCALLY, BUT THAT WE ARE ALSO ALIGNED WITH HUD. HOW ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO APPLY TO THAT? UM, WE DID THIS LAST YEAR, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN OUR SECOND YEAR. AND THEN WHEN EVERYONE APPLIES, UM, WE USE THAT TO COM HAVE OUR COLLABORATIVE APPLICATION. AND SO THEN THAT WAY WHEN HUD COMES BACK AND ANNOUNCES THE FUNDING AWARD, UM, THEY WILL JUST CONTRACT DIRECTLY WITH THE RECIPIENTS. AND SOMETIMES THAT'S MONEY. THE BONUS MONEY MAY COME STRAIGHT TO HOUSING FORWARD, AND THEN THEY'LL DO A LOCAL, UH, NOTICE OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PEOPLE COME APPLY FOR THAT. BUT MOST OFTEN WE HAVE APPLIED AND SAID, IF THAT COMES, HERE'S HOW WE WOULD USE IT. SO THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS, AND YOU GUYS MAY REMEMBER THIS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, USUALLY EVERY YEAR IN THE PAST THERE WOULD BE A BIG HUD ANNOUNCEMENTS AND A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT LOCALLY SAYING, CONGRATS, WE'VE GOTTEN 34 MILLION OR 27 MILLION, AND THEN WE GET A LOT OF INTEREST GOING, GREAT, WE HAVE NEW MONEY. AND THEN WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN, YES, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY PREA AWARDED BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THOSE APPLICATIONS, WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE SUBMITTING. SO IT'S ALL PRE AWARDED BEFORE IT COMES TO THE CITY. SO IT'S EXCITING, BUT IT'S EXCITING BECAUSE IT'S LINKED TO PROGRAMS THAT NOW KNOW THAT THEY HAVE FUNDING. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW THIS IS A LOT, BUT, WE'LL, OH, I THINK THEN, I THINK THAT'S IT NOW. UM, IF WE GO TO THE APPENDIX ON SLIDE NINE, THESE ARE SOME, YEAH, NEXT SLIDE. THESE ARE JUST SOME HELPFUL LINKS. SO YOU CAN SEE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEETING SCHEDULE, UM, ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION WORK GROUPS. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ONE OF THOSE, THERE'S A LINK THERE THAT TELLS YOU HOW TO GET IN TOUCH. UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE PAST FUNDING, UM, ON WHO'S BEEN AWARDED IN THE PAST. AND THEN COC PROGRAM RECIPIENT AND COC ROLES. THAT'S JUST A HUD DOCUMENT TELLING YOU WHAT THE EXPECTED ROLES ARE. OKAY. DIANA? YES. I THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHRISTINE. THAT WAS AMAZING. I JUST REALLY WANTED TO, MYSELF AND EVERYONE UNDERSTAND HOW DECISIONS WERE MADE WHEN WE DON'T SEE HOW THE DECISIONS ARE MADE. AND, AND THEN YOU JUST FIND OUT THAT MONEY IS AWARDED. [00:20:01] UM, AND IT REALLY IS LOCAL. IT REALLY IS ALL OF US, OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY WORKING TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BIGGEST NEEDS ARE AND HOW WE CAN FUND THOSE NEEDS. UM, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU MOSTLY. AND CHRISTIE , THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS. UM, WE CAN START HERE IN-HOUSE, UH, MR. HAW ILLA, DIANA, AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN. AND CHRISTINE, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. I'VE NEVER SEEN DIANA'S AS HAPPY AS SHE WAS IS WHEN SHE WAS ABLE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT. I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT EASY. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I KNOW WHEN DO WE EXPECT THIS TO BE ON OUR WEBSITE? BECAUSE I THINK PART OF OUR COMMUNICATION PROCESS IS TO BE ABLE TO REFERENCE ITEMS LIKE THIS AND SAY, IF YOU WANNA KNOW MORE, GO HERE. AND I THINK WE'RE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THOSE KIND OF UPDATES TODAY, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE I COULD SEE WRITING A POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR WITH MY COUNSELOR AND SAYING, I WANNA REFERENCE SOMETHING ON YOUR SYSTEM. THIS. SO WHEN DO WE THINK THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE? JUANITA JUST SAID, WELL, WE'RE WORKING WITH IN-HOUSE STAFF. OUR IT DEPARTMENT WILL TRY TO PUBLISH THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN THERE MAY BE A WAY THAT WE CAN PUT IT ON THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS WEB PAGE SOONER. YEAH. CHECK WITH MARCY. I MEAN, THIS IS ALL FINE TO GO. UM, NOW WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL REVIEW OF IT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN HOUSE? OKAY, MR. MM-HMM . THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU. THAT WAS, UH, SUCH A GREAT PRESENTATION AND, UH, A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION. AND I JUST WANNA, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY THAT BEFORE YOU WERE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AS A COC, THAT THOUGHT PEOPLE COULD JUST DO IT PIECEMEAL? WE STILL SUBMITTED AS A COC, BUT IT WAS, HERE ARE ALL OF OUR PROJECTS AND HERE'S HOW THEY PERFORM. AND THEN HUD MINE UP TO, SO THEY LOOKED AT THEM SEPARATELY. OKAY. UM, NOT AS A WHOLE. NOW THEY LOOK AT, IF WE FUND ALL OF THESE THINGS, THEY WILL ACHIEVE THE COMMUNITY END GOAL. AND IF WE DON'T FUND ANY OF IT, THEN WE WON'T ACHIEVE THAT. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S POSSIBLE TO WHERE IT WAS POSSIBLE BEFORE TO GET A LITTLE BIT, NOW IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET NOTHING. RIGHT? YEAH. THAT'S A BIG CHANGE AND KIND OF YEAH. WELL, THE GOOD THING, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE WERE ALREADY DOING THAT. BY THE TIME THAT THEY CHANGED, WE HAD ALREADY BEEN DOING THAT AND CHANGING TO MARCHING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, UH, AND WORKING TOGETHER IS WHAT, $72 MILLION DALLAS REAL TERM RAPID HOUSING INITIATIVE ALLOWED US TO DO. SO WE WERE BUILDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND NOW THAT IS HOW WE OPERATE. SO WE WOULDN'T GO BACK TO HAVING EVERYBODY JUST SAY, OKAY, WELL MAYBE YOUR PROGRAM WILL GET SOMETHING AND YOURS WILL GET 50%. YOURS MIGHT GET NOTHING. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS MINDSET IN A DATA-DRIVEN WAY HAS BEEN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL. MM-HMM . SO WE HAVE NO REASON TO CHANGE. AWESOME. THANKS. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS IN HOUSE? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO VIRTUAL. ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS? VIRTUAL, UM, COMMISSIONER JACOB, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UH, IS IT, UH, DICTATED BY HUD OR IS IT JUST A LOCAL DECISION FOR AN ORGANIZATION OUTSIDE OF CITY GOVERNMENT TO BE THE CONVENER OF THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION? SO HOUSING FORWARD, UH, IN THIS SENSE AND WITH, UH, CITY OF DALLAS HAVING A SEAT AT THE TABLE, RATHER THAN THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION BEING RUN AND INSTITUTED BY THE, BY CITY OF DALLAS OR SOME OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY? THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. AND ACTUALLY IT VARIES. UM, IN CITY OF, SO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE IS DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES. SO IT CANNOT BE RUN BY ANY PARTICULAR MUNICIPALITY BECAUSE WE ARE BOUNDED BY OUR GEOGRAPHICAL BORDERS. HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT NASHVILLE, NASHVILLE AND DAVIDSON COUNTY MERGED A COUPLE OF DECADES AGO. AND SO THEY ARE ABLE TO BE, HAVE THE COC IN HOUSE. UM, AND THEY ARE THE LEAD AGENCY. THEY'RE, THEY'RE HOMELESS AGENCY IS THE LEAD AGENCY BECAUSE THEY CAN FULLY REPRESENT THE ENTIRE GEOGRAPHICAL AREA. SO IT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IT REALLY VARIES. AND WHO DICTATES THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES BEING COMBINED RATHER THAN BEING SEPARATE? THAT IS SET BY, UH, HOUSING AND URBAN HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. OKAY. THAT'S FAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JACOBS, ANY OTHER VIRTUAL COMMISSIONERS WHO, UM, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. HEARING NONE. UM, DO WE NEED A ROUND OH, GO FOR, I DO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION, JUST AS A FOLLOW UP. HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY, UH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, LOBBYING OR AT LEAST DISCUSSION WITH HUD ON THE SEPARATION BETWEEN, UH, THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA OF JUST HAVING DALLAS COUNTY SEPARATE? 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE DIFFERENCES, UH, IN THE SCOPE [00:25:01] OF THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS BETWEEN DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY, AND WHETHER OR NOT, UH, TO, UH, KIND OF SOLVE THE ISSUES THAT WERE, THAT THE TWO COUNTIES ARE FACING COULD BE DONE IN A MORE EXPEDITIOUS FASHION WITH JUST DALLAS COUNTY VERSUS THE INCLUSION OF COLLIN COUNTY. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP THE HISTORY OF THE COC DESIGNATIONS FOR YOU. UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY, WE CAN DO THAT. I'M SURE IT'S ON THE HUD WEBSITE. WHAT I WILL SAY THOUGH IS YES, DALLAS COUNTY IS, DALLAS COUNTY IS, I THINK 51%, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS. HOWEVER, WHAT I HAVE SEEN, IT'S THE SAME IN LA, WHICH IS IN SAN FRANCISCO, WHICH IS THEIR MASSIVE CITIES. UM, AND THE LARGER LANDMASS ACTUALLY MAKES YOU MORE COMPETITIVE. UH, IT ALSO GIVES US ACCESS TO MORE RESOURCES AND MORE AREAS OF LAND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT REHOUSING PEOPLE INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF WE WERE JUST THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THAT WAS IT, IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE TO REHOUSE PEOPLE. YES. BUT AS THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, WE HAVE ACCESS TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS THAT HAVE MUCH, UH, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT PEOPLE MIGHT WANNA MOVE TO. UM, AND THAT ACCESS TO MORE RESOURCES AND MORE, MORE AGENCIES MAKES US MORE COMPETITIVE AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY IN TERMS OF OUR DESIGNATION. SO WE'LL LOOK THAT UP. WELL, AND YOU BRING UP THE FACT THAT NASHVILLE'S, UH, COC IS RUN THROUGH THE CITY. ARE THERE OTHER EXAMPLES OF SIMILARLY SIZED CITIES AS DALLAS THAT, UH, IT'S RUN THROUGH THE UNI THROUGH THE MUNICIPALITY AND NOT THROUGH AN EXTERNAL AGENCY? UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. UM, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NASHVILLE AND DAVIDSON COUNTY MERCH, SO IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY OF NASHVILLE. UM, THAT'S A FAIRLY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT IS, UH, AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE, BUT WE WILL LOOK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JACOB. UH, GIMME JUST A SECOND. OKAY. GOT IT. OKAY. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. UH, DO WE NEED A ROUND TWO? ANY FOLLOW UPS? THINK WE'RE GOOD. SO REALLY APPRECIATIVE. THANK YOU. I I LEARNED A LOT. I, I DID. UM, AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. UH, AND THAT'LL BE CHRISTINE. UH, WE HAVE A BRIEFING MEMO FOR 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE, UH, PRESENTED BY, UH, DIRECTOR CROSLEY. AND IS DARWIN WADE HERE? IS, UH, DARWIN HERE? I THINK HE'S GONNA BE HERE. SURE. BUT I CAN, I CAN CARRY IT. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. WE JUST HAVE THE ONE PROPERTY FORT WORTH AVENUE. UM, AND RIGHT NOW, UH, AND IF DARWIN IS NOT HERE, I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC UPDATES ON THIS YET. UM, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT ONGOING EXPLANATION OF ALTERNATIVES AND EXEMPTIONS FOR VOUCHER SUBSIDIES. UM, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AS YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN, UH, WITH SKINNY BUDGET RECOMMENDATION IS IN FLUX IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT WILL DO TO OUR LOCAL PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY, UM, AND VOUCHER AVAILABILITY. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THAT AS A SYSTEM, UH, WITH ALL OF OUR COLLAB, WITH ALL OF OUR COLLABORATORS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, UH, PROP THAT THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD. SO IF DARWIN'S NOT HERE, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE DETAIL THAN THAT, BUT THAT'S WHERE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU ALSO GO INTO DETAIL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH OH, SURE. UH, THE, THE OTHER PAGES ON THE MEMO? SURE. YEAH. CAN WE SEE IF DARWIN CAN JOIN? YEAH. UM, YEAH. MOST OF THIS HAS GONE THROUGH HOUSING, BUT WE ARE AT THE POINT NOW, UM, WHERE ONCE WE GET THE VOUCHER PART FIGURED OUT, THE PROPERTY WILL MOVE OVER TO, UH, LIVE WITH ST. JUDE. UM, AND IN THE MEANTIME, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IS UNDERWAY AND WE ARE JUST, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE READY TO TURN DIRT, UH, SOON. UM, BUT THAT HAS TO BE, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE VOUCHERS FIRST AND HOW THE, THE RESIDENCES THEMSELVES, THE UNITS WILL BE FUNDED. OKAY. SO, AND IS THE QUESTION WHETHER THE VOUCHERS WILL BE TIED TO THE ROOM OR THE PERSON? THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE WILL HAVE VOUCHERS BECAUSE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? YEAH. . YEAH. IS THERE A, UM, DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON WHEN WE WOULD KNOW? HOPEFULLY VERY SOON. WE'RE [00:30:01] HOPING WE'LL KNOW BEFORE HHS AT THE END OF THE MONTH. OKAY. UM, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER CONTINGENCIES. IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT, UH, CASH FLOW FOR THOSE, UH, FOR THOSE UNITS. AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR LOCAL PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY WHO IS BEING EXTREMELY LOVELY AND FLEXIBLE. THEY'RE ALSO HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT POTENTIAL SHORTFALLS AS WELL. AND, AND IF THERE IS A SHORT FUNNEL, WHAT'S THE, IF THERE IS THIS, DOES THIS PROJECT STOP? WE'RE NOT SURE. RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T. RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ANOTHER SOLUTION MIGHT BE IF THERE ARE NO VOUCHERS. AND WHAT ELSE COULD BE IN THERE THAT STILL HONORS THE SUP AND THE SPECIFIC COMMUNITY, UH, REQUEST. UH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE DON'T WANNA GO OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SET DOWN IN STONE THAT THEY EXPECT. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AWARE AS WELL. UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S, UH, IT'S AN INTERESTING TIME RIGHT NOW. YEAH. UM, DID WE HAVE DARWIN ON? UM, YEAH, HE, I JUST SENT HIM THE LINK, SO HOPEFULLY HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, GET ON. I JUST TALKED TO HIM. OKAY. UM, IS IT OKAY TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH? UH, MARISSA, I'M SORRY. CAN YOU, CAN WE HAVE A LITTLE QUESTIONS FOR CHRISTINE WHILE WE WAIT FOR DARWIN YES. TO JUMP ON FOR PRESENTATION? OKAY. UM, ANY, ANY ERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? UH, IN-HOUSE, I'M NOT SEEING ANY, UH, VIRTUAL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT 1950? CAN YOU HEAR WHAT, UH, DIRECTOR CAUSLEY HAS SAID ABOUT WE'RE LITTLE IN LIMBO ABOUT FUNDING FOR VOUCHERS? YOU SEE ANYONE ON ONLINE? YOU MAY WANNA I'LL HAVE ONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY ONLINE, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO WITH COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN. UH, I WAS ACTUALLY JUST ABLE TO VISIT THE ST. JUDE'S IN MY DISTRICT, UM, IN DISTRICT 13, UM, WHICH WAS LOVELY. UM, AND SO THEY ARE A 55 PLUS, UM, UH, PLACEMENT. UM, AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 104 UNITS. SO I WAS WONDERING, UM, WILL THIS HAVE ANY, UM, RESTRICTIONS OF AGE, OR IS THERE A PARTICULAR FOCUS AND HOW MANY UNITS ARE THERE? AND WILL IT BE RUN BY CATHOLIC HOUSING INITIATIVES LIKE THE OTHER ST. JUDE'S ARE? IT WILL. OKAY. UM, AND IT IS, I THINK, 75 UNITS. UM, AND I NEED TO GO BACK. I NEED TO GO BACK AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE, UH, AT THE POTENTIAL RESTRICTIONS. I MEAN, SINGLE ADULTS, NOT FAMILIES. MM-HMM . UM, I THINK THERE WAS A, WE, IT WASN'T A RESTRICTION, BUT THERE WAS A PREFERENCE, I THINK FOR, UH, OLDER ADULTS AND VETERANS. OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE COORDINATED ACCESS SYSTEM, SO IT'LL BE EQUITABLY DONE. UM, BUT THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT, AND I THINK THERE WAS ALSO A DISCUSSION, UH, THE COMMUNITY WAS CONCERNED QUITE A WHILE AGO ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A PROPERTY, COULD, COULD LOCAL, COULD LOCAL FOLKS BE GIVEN PREFERENCE? AND WE SAID, WELL, THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW THE COORDINATED ACCESS SYSTEM WORKS, BUT CHOICE IS KEY. AND SO PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE WHERE THEY'RE COMFORTABLE AND WHERE THEIR COMMUNITY IS. AND SO IF SOMEONE IS LOOKING TO GET HOUSED AND THIS IS THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY ASK TO BE PLACED HERE, THEN THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IN AND OF ITSELF WILL KIND OF SELECT PEOPLE WHO ARE COMFORTABLE IN THIS AREA. YOU GOOD? OKAY. UH, MR. HAW, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, DO WE HAVE DARWIN ON? OKAY. I SUPPOSE WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM WHILE WE WAIT. UM, I THINK WE'VE BEEN SUFFICIENTLY INFORMED ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, SO, UH, THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. AND, UH, SO, UH, NICOLE, IF YOU WANNA TELL DARWIN IT'S OKAY. UM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM. UH, WE ARE ON ITEM SIX. THE PRESENTATION IS CODE COMPLIANCE, DEPARTMENT'S PARTNERSHIP AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS. THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY STORMY GONZALEZ. SHE'S THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR FOR CODE COMPLIANCE. UH, WE ARE READY WHEN YOU ARE. UH, AND WHILE WE WAIT FOR HER TO GET GOING, IF ANYONE HAS THEIR COMPUTER AND THEY'D LIKE TO PULL, GO TO THE DALLAS CITY HALL.COM WEBSITE. [00:35:01] YOU CAN PULL UP ALL THE LISTS OF, UH, UH, 3 1 1 REQUESTS. UH, I BELIEVE YOU CAN FUNNEL 'EM BY HOMELESSNESS. YOU CAN SEE ALL THE ONES THAT WE HAVE. AND IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO EITHER ONE OF THOSE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO QUEUE THAT UP, IT WOULD BE EXCELLENT. IN FACT, IF YOU GO TO DALLAS CITY HALL.COM, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH IT. WE'LL SEE HOW THE INTERWEBS ARE GOING ON. UH, UM, I CAN'T PULL IT UP. YES, I CAN'T. SO ON DALLAS CITY HALL.COM, YOU CAN GO TO CLICK ON 3 1 1 AND LOOKS LIKE WE COULD GO TO REQUEST OF SERVICE, CLICK ON THAT BUTTON, AND WE MAY HAVE A LIST IN FRONT OF US. POPULAR REQUESTS, ALL REQUESTS. SO IF YOU WANNA 30 DAYS BACK, THAT 30, THIS IS THE ACTUAL ENTERING UNIT. SO I'M ON THE CITY OF DALLAS'S WEBSITE WHEN YOU ENTER A SERVICE REQUEST. YEAH. SO IF YOU WANNA HAVE THAT PULLED UP SO THAT YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ENTERING. GOT IT. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY, WE'RE READY. OKAY. AND WE'RE READY. THANK YOU. YEAH. HI. MY NAME IS STORMY GONZALEZ. I GET TO SERVE AS ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CODE ADMINISTRATORS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF CODE COMPLIANCE. TODAY I'LL BE PRESENTING ABOUT CODE COMPLIANCE'S SUPPORTIVE ROLE IN ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS ON PRIVATE HEALTH. OUR EMPATHETIC APPROACH CODE COMPLIANCE PLAYS A SUPPORTIVE ROLE IN ADDRESSING ISSUES TO HOMELESSNESS ON PRIVATE BROKER. WE RECOGNIZE THE COMPLEXITIES OF HOMELESSNESS AND THE NEED FOR AN EMPATHETIC COLLABORATIVE APPROACH. OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, DALLAS MARSHALL'S OFFICE, AND THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS IS A VITAL COMPONENT. THESE PARTNERSHIPS ARE FOCUSED ON LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS AND NOT JUST ENFORCEMENT. NEXT SLIDE. OUR ROLES, AND THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE, UM, FIND ENCAMPMENTS ON PRIVATE CODE COMPLIANCE WILL ADDRESS LITTER AND ILLEGAL LAND USE VIOLATIONS FOUND ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE RESPOND TO COMPLAINTS REGARDING ENCAMPMENTS WITH EMPATHY AND PROFESSIONALISM. AND WE DO OUR BEST TO ENSURE PROPERTY OWNERS UNDERSTAND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AND THEIR OPTIONS. WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND EDUCATION AND NOT JUST ENFORCEMENT. NEXT SLIDE. OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH O-H-S-O-H-S LEADS WITH OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT, UH, WITH THE UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS TO OFFER SHELTERED SERVICES AND OTHER SUPPORTIVE RESOURCES. A 72 HOUR NOTICE IS ISSUED BY OHS, ALLOWING THE INDIVIDUALS TIME TO VOLUNTARILY RELOCATE AND REMOVE PERSONAL BELONGINGS. THIS ALLOWS THE TIME TO MAKE INFORMATIVE DECISIONS TO RETAIN THEIR BELONGINGS. CODE COMPLIANCE, WHICH IS OUR TEAM, WILL FOLLOW UP AFTER THE OUTREACH AND DUE PROCESS TO ADDRESS ANY REMAINING LITTER OR ENCAMPMENT VIOLATIONS THAT MAY REMAIN ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. IF AN INDIVIDUAL DECIDES TO RELOCATE TO A SHELTER OR ANOTHER AREA, AT TIMES THERE COULD BE TRASH OR DEBRIS THAT ARE LEFT BEHIND, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS AS A LITTER CONCERN. OTHER TIMES, THE UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUAL MAY DECLINE OH S'S OFFER AND REFUSE TO RELO RELOCATE. AND THIS MAY INCLUDE A LITTER VIOLATION AND A POSSIBLE LAND USE CONCERN REGARDING THE REMAINING ENCAMPMENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE. PRIVATE PROPERTY VIOLATIONS. THIS MAY INCLUDE LITTER AND OR LAND USE CONCERNS. WE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO CONTACT PROPERTY OWNERS GIVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ANY REMAINING LITTER OR ENCAMPMENT RELATED VIOLATIONS FOUND ON THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE OFFER GUIDANCE WITH OBTAINING A CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT, WHICH YOU MAY HEAR IT REFERRED TO AS A CTA. THIS MAY BE NECESSARY FOR ANY INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY REFUSE TO LEAVE OR CONTINUE TO RETURN TO THE, UM, THEY CONTINUALLY RETURN TO THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE INFORM CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN OBTAIN THIS CTA AT THEIR NEAREST POLICE SUBSTATION AND WOULD NEED TO CONTACT DPD. ANYTIME THOSE INDIVIDUALS MAY RETURN TO THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY, A NOTICE OF VIOLATION WILL BE ISSUED, ALLOWING THE PROPERTY OWNER SEVEN TO 10 DAYS FOR VOLUNTARY ABATEMENT. IF NO PROGRESS IS MADE WITHIN THAT DESIGNATED TIMEFRAME, A WARRANT WILL BE OBTAINED TO REMOVE ANY REMAINING LITTER FROM THE PROPERTY, AND WE OBTAIN WARRANTS, UM, FOR ALL ENCAMPMENT RELATED ITEMS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT IN MANY CASES, PROPERTY OWNERS ARE UNINTENDED VICTIMS OF THESE VIOLATIONS, AND WE MAKE SURE WE APPROACH EACH CASE WITH EMPATHY AND PROFESSIONALISM. NEXT SLIDE. OUR GOAL, TOGETHER WITH OHS, WE AIM TO CREATE CLEANER, SAFER COMMUNITIES FOR DALLAS RESIDENTS. WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING AN EMPATHETIC ENFORCEMENT APPROACH WHEN ADDRESSING PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE [00:40:01] UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, STORMY. YEAH, CHAIR, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR OF DISCUSSION CHAIR. I HAVE, CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT? YES. JUST TO CAVEAT, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE, SINCE WE HAVE DONE THE REORG, AND SO ON THE PARTNERSHIP SLIDE, WE STILL DEFINITELY A PARTNER, BUT WE PARTNER ON THE ENGAGEMENT PIECE, AND THE 72 HOUR NOTICES ARE DONE BY EMCR. OKAY. THANK. YEAH, THAT'S JUST HAPPENED. SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA, I HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, BUT I'LL SAVE MINE FOR THE END. UH, SO I'M GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS. WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER CLAPTON RAISE FIRST. . THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU MS. GONZALEZ. UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THE SLIDE. ON PRIVATE PROPERTY VIOLATIONS THAT YOU'RE KIND OF DESCRIBING A PROCESS HERE. WHAT'S, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE AVERAGE TIME THAT IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER? IF THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CONTACTED, UM, A NOTICE OF VIOLATION, THERE'S A DESIGNATED TIMEFRAME, A WARRANT, WHAT'S THE USUAL TIMEFRAME OF THAT THAT WE COULD TELL MAYBE A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, THIS IS THE PRO PROCESS. YOU CAN EXPECT THIS TO HAPPEN WITHIN THIS AMOUNT OF TIME. OF COURSE, WE ALLOW THAT 72 HOUR NOTICE TO BE GIVEN AND THEN, UM, TO ALLOW THE UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUAL TO DECIDE TO EITHER LEAVE OR RELOCATE. BUT IF THEY DECIDE TO STAY OR THEY LEAVE AND HAPPEN TO LEAVE THOSE ITEMS BEHIND, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL ISSUE THAT NOTICE OF VIOLATION, ALLOWING THAT SEVEN TO 10 DAYS OKAY. TO ALLOW THE PROPERTY OWNER TIME TO FIGURE OUT A PLAN AND MAYBE GET THOSE ITEMS REMOVED. OF COURSE, WE STAY ENGAGED OR EMPATHETIC TO THE SITUATION, BECAUSE AGAIN, A LOT OF THEM DID NOT ASK, UM, FOR THESE CONCERNS TO BE ON THEIR PROPERTY. SO AT ANY TIME THEY NEED ADDITIONAL TIME, THEY JUST NEED TO TALK TO US AND LET US KNOW, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH THEM TO ALLOW THEM MORE TIME. BUT IF THEY ARE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE ITEMS REMOVED OR MAYBE, UM, PLACED OUT FOR BULK TRASH WHEN IT'S LEGAL, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, CLOSE THAT CASE. WE CAN BE DONE. BUT IF WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH, UM, MAYBE HELP FROM OUR NUISANCE ABATEMENT TEAM TO ABATE THE VIOLATION, UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT ALWAYS A FREE, UM, A FREE SERVICE THAT, AND USUALLY THAT ONLY, UM, HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE FAILS TO REMOVE THE ITEMS OR NON-RESPONSIVE TO OUR REQUEST TO REMOVE THE ITEMS. UM, AND THEN THAT IS THEN REFERRED TO MR. ABATEMENT, AND THEN IT COULD TAKE, IT JUST DEPENDS ON, UH, THEIR WORKFLOW. IT COULD BE REMOVED AS SOON AS WITHIN A WEEK, BUT THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE UP TO LIKE 28 TO 30 DAYS, UM, TO HAVE IT REMOVED. AND OF COURSE, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S OUT THERE AND THE EGREGIOUSNESS OF IT, UM, WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH OUR MAINTENANCE ABATEMENT TEAM AT ANY TIME TO SEE IF WE NEED TO MAYBE HAVE SOMEONE OUT THERE A LITTLE SOONER. OKAY. SO THIS, IT JUST, A LOT BULB JUST WENT OFF IN MY HEAD. YEAH. SO DIFFERENT FROM CITY PROPERTY. SO THIS, YOU'RE SAYING TO THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, YOU NEED TO CLEAN THIS UP. WE, WE REALIZE THESE PEOPLE WERE CAMPING AND IT WASN'T NECESSARILY YOUR FAULT, BUT THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY. WE NEED FOR YOU TO CLEAN THIS UP. THAT'S WHERE THE SEVEN TO 10 DAYS COMES IN. YES. AND THEN IF THEY DON'T CLEAN THAT UP AS IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, HOWEVER THEY CAN FIGURE IT OUT, THEN THE ABATEMENT HAPPENS. AND MAYBE THEY'LL BE CHARGED WHENEVER YOU GUYS, WHENEVER THE CITY COMES IN. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEP. OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HERE? YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR. EINSTEIN? UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS VERY HELPFUL, AND THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON CITY PROPERTY VERSUS, UM, OWNER, OWNER PROPERTY. UM, SO YOU MENTIONED, UM, THAT PART OF YOUR ROLE IS TO ENSURE PROPERTY OWNERS UNDERSTAND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU PROVIDED GUIDANCE AND EDUCATION GOING SORT OF TO, UM, ANGELA'S QUESTION, WHAT IS THAT GUIDANCE AND EDUCATION? IS IT ON YOUR WEBSITE? DO YOU COME AND MEET WITH THEM? AND WE HAND THEM A PAMPHLET? CAN YOU SHOW US WHERE THIS IS? BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE'RE CONTACTED RIGHT? AS COMMISSIONERS, UM, SOMETIMES PEOPLE COME INTO OUR MEETINGS AND, AND TALK TO US ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES. UM, SO WHERE CAN WE FIND THIS GUIDANCE AND EDUCATION THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN UP ONCE THE PERSON HAS LEFT, BUT WHAT IS THE, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF THE PERSON DOES NOT WANT TO LEAVE? SO THE GUIDANCE AND EDUCATION, THE FIRST QUESTION, UM, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO ISSUE THAT NOTICE OF VIOLATION, AND THAT IS A FORM OF GUIDANCE AND EDUCATION. WE HAVE OUR PHONE NUMBERS LISTED THERE. SHOULD THE PROPERTY OWNER WANT TO REACH OUT TO US? AND THAT'S AFTER, RIGHT AFTER NOTICE I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW DO YOU EDUCATE THEM BEFORE YOU WOULD GIVE THEM A VIOLATION. UM, WE DO OUR BEST TO SPEAK IN SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, TO EDUCATE SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, [00:45:01] ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A HIGH VOLUME OF, UH, UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR IF THAT'S A CONCERN. WE HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CODE REPRESENTATIVES THAT MEET AT SOME OF THEIR MONTHLY MEETINGS TO KIND OF DISCUSS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THEIR RIGHTS. AND WE ALSO PROVIDE, UM, THAT EDUCATION TO THOSE THAT MAY SEEK GUIDANCE ABOUT OBTAINING A CTA. AND THAT MIGHT GO INTO YOUR SECOND QUESTION. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT REFUSE TO LEAVE, UM, THESE PROPERTIES, THEN WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THEY GO THROUGH TPD TO OBTAIN A CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT, WHICH IS A CTA IN ORDER TO CONTACT DPD ANYTIME THOSE INDIVIDUALS RETURN, OR IF THEY SIMPLY REFUSE TO LEAVE. SO IT, IS THERE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO TO FIND THIS EDUCATIONAL OR THIS, THIS INFORMATION OR GUIDANCE? IF THEY'RE A PROPERTY OWNER, DOES IT, DOES IT LIVE SOMEWHERE THAT WE CAN GUIDE THEM TO OR IT DOES NOT? UM, LET ME LOOK INTO THAT TO SEE. I KNOW, UM, DPD HAS INFORMATION REGARDING THEIR CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT, BUT I COULD LOOK TO SEE IF, UM, WHERE EXACTLY ON SOME OF OUR WEBSITES, IF THERE'S ANY MORE INFORMATION THAT KIND OF HELP GUIDE PRIOR, MORE LIKE PREVENTION. YEAH, EXACTLY. PRIOR TO THEM HAVING TO RECEIVE A NOTICE OF PERMISSION. RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS HERE AT CITY HALL? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA GO VIRTUAL. UM, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH, UH, THE REVEREND COMMISSIONER, UH, MITCHELL BOONE, UH, . YOU HAVE THE FLOORMAN, UH, GARNER. ARE WE, DO WE ANTICIPATE HAVING A COUPLE ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS HERE? I'VE JUST GOT A FEW. YES, SIR. OKAY. WELL, I'LL START WITH THEN TWO. UM, AND MAYBE I MISSED THIS. UH, CAN I, I UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS IS FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY. CAN WE GET SORT OF AN ALSO AN OVERVIEW OF, OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON CITY PROPERTY? UM, YES. UM, WHATEVER CITY DEPARTMENT IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE, WE WORK REAL CLOSE WITH, UM, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S QUITE A FEW ENCAMPMENTS THAT, UH, FALL ON THEIR PROPERTY. UM, AND JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CITY PROPERTY, WE WORK WITH EITHER TPD OR THAT DEPARTMENT TO, UM, WORK WITH THEM IN ORDER TO, AND OHS, OF COURSE, WHO TAKES A LEAD, UM, WITH PUBLIC PROPERTY VIOLATIONS RELATED TO UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS OR ENCAMPMENTS. GREAT. AND, UH, THIS PROCESS THAT YOU'VE DESCRIBED IT, UH, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT I I'M ASSUMING THIS PROCESS IS SORT OF BOTH FOR INDIVIDUALS, SMALL GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS OR ENCAMPMENTS. CORRECT. IT COULD BE, UH, ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS, UH, RESIDING ON A PROPERTY UP TO AS MANY. I, WE KNOW THAT, UM, WHEN THEY LEFT UNATTENDED, UNATTENDED, SORRY, UM, THAT IT COULD RESULT IN INVITING MORE IN A ONE AREA MIGHT TURN INTO MULTIPLE TENTS OR A WHOLE ENCAMPMENT. SO WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO EDUCATE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PROCESS IN ORDER TO NOT ALLOW IT TO LOOK LIKE AN INVITING PLACE FOR ENCAMPMENTS. GREAT. AND THEN, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION REAL QUICK. UM, YOU, YOU MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THIS APPROACH IS, YOU KNOW, CARRIED OUT WITH BOTH EMPATHY AND PROFESSIONALISM. CAN YOU, UM, CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT EMPATHY LOOKS LIKE? YEAH. UM, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT MOST PEOPLE DID NOT WANT TO END UP IN THIS SITUATION. WE KNOW THAT IT'S HARD TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN WE HAVE OHS OFFERING THE THAT GUIDANCE OR THAT SUPPORT ASKING THEM THAT WE COULD GIVE YOU A RIDE TO A SHELTER. WE, UM, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEIR ITEMS OR THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO WHAT A PART OF THAT IS ALLOWING OHS TO TAKE LEAVE WITH THAT 72 HOUR, UM, NOTICE TO TELL THEM LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER TO YOU. WE'LL GIVE YOU 72 HOURS FOR YOU TO DECIDE WHAT DIRECTION YOU WANNA GO BEFORE CODE ENFORCEMENT COMES IN AND STARTS THEIR TIME CLOCK AS FAR AS REMOVING SOME OF THESE ITEMS, SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO LEAVE 'EM, UM, IT ALLOWS THEM THAT TIME TO MAKE AN INFORMATIVE DECISION, BASICALLY REGARDING THEIR WHEREABOUTS AND THEIR ITEMS. WE ALSO KNOW THAT, UM, AGAIN, THAT WE WE'RE HUMANS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US WANT TO BE TREATED WITH RESPECT, REGARDLESS IF THE VICTIMS OF ENCAMPMENTS BEING ON THEIR PROPERTY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THEY DIDN'T ALLOW THAT OR INVITE PEOPLE TO ENCAMP ON THEIR PROPERTY OR BRING TRASH. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE, MAY HAVE FALLEN IN A HARD, UH, PLACE IN LIFE AND JUST NEED OUR PATIENCE AND OUR EMPATHY AND MOSTLY OUR RESPECT AND PROFESSIONALISM. THANK YOU. I'LL RESERVE THE REST OF MY QUESTIONS FOR ROUND TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER REVEREND UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STORMY. THANK YOU VERY [00:50:01] MUCH TOO FOR, UH, A VERY INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION. UM, JUST A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS. UH, LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT, UH, OR AT LEAST FROM A CODE COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE AND THE ACCESS TO DATA THAT Y'ALL HAVE, HOW MANY OPEN ENCAMPMENTS DO YOU SEE, UH, IN THE CITY OF DALLAS RIGHT NOW? YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS WITH ME. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE FROM OFFICE OF HOME SOLUTION OR OHS HAS ACCOUNT OF OPEN ENCAMPMENTS, THE RGIS MAP? NO. YEAH, IT'S JUST THE GIS MAP OF 3 1 1 OF THE DASHBOARD ONLINE MM-HMM . SO NO ONE HAS THE NUMBERS JUST OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD. CAN YOU LOOK IT UP, COURTNEY? NO, THAT'S FINE. SO WE HAVEN'T, I MEAN, SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN TERMS OF REALIGNMENT, UH, WHICH WILL GO BEFORE THE COUNCIL, UH, IN JUNE, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT POTENTIAL REALIGNMENT OF, UH, THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE BY OHS AND EMCR AND, UH, JUST IN TERMS OF CODE COMPLIANCE AFFECT, UH, WITH 3 1 1 AFFECT THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DO IN CARRYING OUT? I MEAN, AND, AND I'M ASKING THIS PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO ENCAMPMENTS. HOW DO YOU SEE THAT POTENTIAL REALIGNMENT, UH, UH, IMPACTING THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DO? THIS IS CHRISTINE CROSLEY, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS. MM-HMM . UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED WHEN IT IS BRIEFED TO COUNCIL IN EARLY JUNE. AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A PRESENTATION HERE WITH EMCR, UM, BUT IT DOESN'T AFFECT CODE. OKAY. UH, I THANK YOU FOR THAT. WELL, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET HER IN HER, UH, OPINION SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, BY YOU ABOUT THE REALIGNMENT. HOW, I MEAN, JUST ASKING HER PERSONAL OPINION AS AN EMPLOYEE OF CO, OF CO COMPLIANCE, HOW SHE SEES THAT POTENTIAL REALIGNMENT AFFECTING AND IMPACTING THE WORK OF THAT DEPARTMENT. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT ABLE TO GIVE MY PERSONAL OPINION. HOWEVER, UM, AGAIN, WE ARE A SUPPORTIVE ROLE IN WORKING WITH OHS AND OUR, OUR FRIENDS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO, TO HELP WITH THIS, UM, CONCERN. THANK YOU. INTERESTING. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT EMPLOYEE CITY EMPLOYEES WEREN'T ABLE TO GIVE THEIR OWN PERSONAL OPINIONS IN A, UH, IN A, I MEAN, IN AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING LIKE THIS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, AN EDICT FROM A PARTICULAR MANAGER WITHIN A DEPARTMENT? OR IS THAT COMING FROM ON HIGH WITHIN CITY GOVERNMENT. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB, WE'RE GONNA STICK TO THE ITEM. UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION. IT IS, IT IS PERTAINING TO THE ITEM, THOUGH. UH, SO I THINK WE'RE DISCUSSING WHETHER OR NOT AN EMPLOYEE CAN GIVE AN OPINION DURING AN OFFICIAL MEETING, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA NOT GO THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM. SO, UM, DID, DID ANY INPUT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE? WE'LL, WE'LL LET, WE'LL LET MARISSA, UM, MAKE A COMMENT. SO, SO THAT, HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE HELPFUL FOR YOU. DOES THIS WORK? MM-HMM . OH, OKAY. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES, VERY LOUD. SORRY. THIS IS MARISSA WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. YEAH, SO THE, IS, UM, AND I DID NOT BRING MY AGENDA, SO I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT WORD, SORRY. SO IT'S, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE, DEPARTMENT PARTNERSHIP AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS. SO, UM, MS. GONZALEZ, UH, HER PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT THE MATTER ARE NOT QUITE RELEVANT TO THE AGENDA POSTING. OKAY. THE AGENDA ITEM IS ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OHS AND CODE COMPLIANCE. AND SINCE THE REORG OR THE REALIGNMENT WAS BROUGHT UP, THE, THE QUESTION ITSELF WAS, NO, YOUR TIME, SIR. UH, DO YOU WANNA SAY THE QUESTION ITSELF, SIR? THAT'S JUST FINE. UM, WE, IF YOU WANNA JUST, UH, GET A GOOD QUESTION GOING ON FOR THE NEXT ROUND. OKAY. MR. JACOB. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY. SO, UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK, UH, FOR THIS ROUND? OKAY. UM, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE TALKING A LOT ABOUT, UM, DISSEMINATING THE INFORMATION AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG STRUGGLE WITH THE CITY CONNECTING TO THE COMMUNITY AND ACTUALLY MAKING SURE TO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN WAS SAYING. UM, THAT'S A BIG GAP THAT I KNOW IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BEING FILLED IN MY DISTRICT. 'CAUSE I DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT I KNOW WHO, WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR EACH OF THE SPECIFIC ONES. I'M IN DISTRICT SEVEN. UM, WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT A MORE TANGIBLE WAY [00:55:01] FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT FOR THE INCIDENTS OCCUR BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE ALL LEARNING ALL OF THIS RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE THE COMMISSIONERS, LIKE THE, THE PREVENTION. SO, AND YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER TODAY, BUT I WOULD LOVE MAYBE A FOLLOW UP EMAIL. WE CAN KIND OF GET THAT GOING THROUGH OUR CHAIR, BUT WE NEED TO START WORKING ON WHAT STRATEGICALLY, WHAT THE PLAN IS GONNA BE. SO THAT WAY WHEN WE DISSEMINATE INFORMATION WHERE WE CAN STAND POSITIVELY, POSITIVELY BEHIND YOU GUYS SO WE CAN START TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS. 'CAUSE IF WE'RE NOT WORKING TOGETHER, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A ANGRY SITUATION WHERE IT'S CONFUSION. 'CAUSE THERE'S NO COHESION BETWEEN US AND WE'RE REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY. SO IF WE'RE TELLING YOU GUYS THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION AND WE DON'T KNOW, AND Y'ALL ARE SAYING, WELL, WE ARE GIVING EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION, AND I'M SAYING THIS TO EXPLAIN A LOT OF THE KIND OF HEIGHTENED EMOTIONS, IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE NOT RECEIVING THE INFORMATION. AND SO WE KNOW PEOPLE BEHIND US WHO, WHO DON'T EVEN HAVE THIS ACCESS OR RECEIVING THE INFORMATION, EVEN THOUGH YOU GUYS COME AND SAY THAT YOU ARE, AND YOU MAY BE DOING IT IN SOME WAYS, BUT IT'S NOT HITTING THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME OF THE 3 1 1 AREAS THAT IT NEEDS TO HIT FOR SOME OF THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES, BOTH PRIVATE AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. SO I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW, EVEN IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER TODAY, WELL, WHEN WE COULD GET A SOLID, EXCUSE ME, I'M A LITTLE BIT UNDER THE WEATHER, WHEN WE COULD GET A LAYOUT OF WHAT THE OUTREACH IS GONNA LOOK LIKE TO ENSURE THAT THE ACTUAL INFORMATION IS BEING DISSEMINATED. UM, OF COURSE WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND MAYBE CONNECT AFTERWARDS TO LOOK AT WHAT SPECIFIC NEEDS OR IF THERE'S ANY AREAS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MAINTAIN APART MEETINGS IF WE CAN MAYBE PUT TOGETHER A FLOW CHART, JUST SOMETHING TO PASS OUT. OUR INTENTION IS TO PROVIDE THIS EDUCATION TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S NOT JUST HAPPENING IN ONE AREA OF DALLAS. UH, BUT WE UNDERSTAND, UH, THE CONFUSION AND SOMETIMES FRUSTRATION RELATED, UM, AROUND THE UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUAL. SO YES, WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK TOGETHER AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, D SEVEN GETS THE EDUCATION AND INFORMATION BEST PAID. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S FOR ALL OF US. 'CAUSE WE ALL, YEAH, ALL OF US. OH, OH OVERFLOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR. UH, SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE DO. WE HAVE THESE PRESENTATIONS, WE HAVE INFORMED INFORMATION, AND THEN WE GO, OKAY, WELL THIS ANSWERS SOME QUESTIONS. NOW HOW DO WE GET THIS OUT? AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU. UM, SO I'M GONNA ASK A QUICK QUESTION. UM, COUPLE. UH, SO IT IS THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY, UM, FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AND THEIR OPTIONS. UM, IF THEY HAVE SOMEONE WHO DID DECIDE, MADE A DECISION TO CAMP THERE, AND, UM, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL, THEY'RE GIVEN A NOTICE OR VOLUNTARY ABATEMENT ALLOWING FOR SUB TO 10 DAYS. UM, LET'S SAY IT'S AN ELDERLY INDIVIDUAL AND THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF, YOU KNOW, CLEANING UP, WHICH COULD SOME CASES BE BIOHAZARDOUS WASTE, AND THEY DON'T MEET THAT EXPECTATION AND THEY'RE GETTING THE CITATION. AND SO THE ONUS IS ON THEM. UM, FOR THIS, AGAIN, KNOWING WHAT RECOURSE WOULD BE FOR SOMEONE LIKE THAT, UM, IS THERE, IS THERE A PROCESS FOR SOMEBODY WHO, UH, MAY ALSO BE VULNERABLE, VULNERABLE, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER WITH A VULNERABLE, UH, PERSON CAMPING? AND THERE'S THE SITUATION WHERE IT'S NEITHER CAN REALLY, UM, MAKE THE ISSUE. SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PROCESS. UM, BUT WE DO COLLABORATE SOME OF OUR, UM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND OUR OTHER TEAMS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY RESOURCES OR ANY HELP THAT CAN, UM, BE A BENEFIT TO THAT PROPERTY OWNER. OF COURSE, IT'S NEVER OUR INTENTION TO, UM, TARGET ELDERLY OR THE DISABLED BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE UNINTENDED VICTIMS OF, OF THIS. SO WE DO OUR BEST TO WORK WITH THEM, ALLOW THE TIME THEY NEED, AND THEN ALSO TRY TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR SOME PEOPLE, SOME OTHER TEAM MEMBERS TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EITHER, UH, THE OFFICE HOME SOLUTION CAN HELP WITH OR WE HAVE OUR ABATEMENT. SOMETIMES IT'S ABLE TO HELP. WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE IT CASE BY CASE. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. UH, UNDERSTOOD. UM, AND REALLY THAT'S WHAT HOMELESSNESS IS. IT IS ALMOST CASE BY CASE. YEAH, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES OR THE MANPOWER TO TAKE ON THAT, UM, THAT RESPONSIBILITY OR HAVING TO BE ABLE TO JUST PROMISE THAT WE CAN SEND PEOPLE OUT THERE TO CLEAN UP AFTER EVERY CAMPUS SITE. OKAY. AND, AND I WANNA THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION AS IT, AS IT, UM, PERTAINS TO, UM, 3 1 1 SERVICE REQUESTS AND HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. THERE ARE OTHER REQUESTS THAT YOU GUYS, UM, MANAGE. UM, UH, I HAD IT PULLED UP HERE, BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, THERE ARE PANHANDLING SIGNAGE THAT [01:00:01] CAN BE INSTALLED AND YOU PUT IN A 3 1 1 FOR PANHANDLING. UM, BUT IT'S JUST TO NOTIFY THAT THERE'S, THAT THIS IS AN AREA OF PANHANDLING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL UTILIZED THAT IS BY THE CITIZEN. UH, SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO ESTABLISH A 3 1 1 REQUEST THAT THE CITIZEN CAN JUST GO THERE AND SAY, I'M REQUESTING SIGNAGE HERE IN THIS, UM, UH, THIS AREA, WHICH SEEMS TO HAVE, UM, HIGH INCIDENCES OF, OF PANHANDLING? I KNOW IN ONE CASE THERE'S THIS GENTLEMAN WHO STANDS IN THE FREEWAY AND, UH, IT IS VERY DANGEROUS AND PEOPLE ARE FLYING BY HIM. AND SOME OF 'EM ARE HANDING MONEY OUT AND IT'S ON A FREEWAY. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF 9 1 1 3 1 1 REQUESTS PUT IN MULTIPLE TIMES. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IT HAS TO BE, UH, PUT IN BEFORE A THREE A 9 1 1 SIGNAGE COULD BE POSTED. SO CAN YOU, IS IT, CAN YOU ADD A REQUEST FOR 3 1 1? UM, UH, 2 3 1, 1 FOR NINE FOR SIGNAGE, FOR PANHANDLING. I KNOW THERE'S A REQUEST TO, UH, CALL ABOUT PANHANDLING. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE SIGNAGE. THIS IS ENFORCED BY 15, SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE, UH, TOO MUCH INFORMATION ON THAT. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S HERE FROM DDPD, BUT IF NOT, WE COULD GET THAT QUESTION TO THEM. WELL, I THINK THERE IS A THREE ONE ON FOR, UM, PANHANDLING. SO YES, I BELIEVE THERE'S PANHANDLING. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WHAT, HOW IT LOOKS TO REPORT A REQUEST FOR A SIGN. YEAH. CAN WE MAKE A REQUEST FOR THAT? SURE. UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY REQUESTS FOR THREE ONE ONES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE? WE'RE GONNA GO ROUND TWO. COMMISSIONER I, I THINK JAM FOUR. UM, I THINK THE CHALLENGE I HAVE IS THAT SOMETIMES THE REQUESTS ARE TOO . RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT IT IN SOME SENSE. RIGHT. I'VE STRUGGLED WITH, I'M NOT REPORTING HOMELESS SITUATIONS, WHICH I'M REPORTING THE FACT THAT THERE'S FURNITURE GATHERED FOR THE HOMELESS. RIGHT. HOW DO I CLASSIFY THAT? THERE'S NO EASY WAY AND IT BECOMES, EITHER IT'S A CRIME OR IT'S NOT. RIGHT? AND I'M NOT ALWAYS THINKING IT'S A CRIME. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK HOMELESSNESS IS A CRIME . BUT THE, THE, THE REPORTING PUTS AN INTRO, SO I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT. THERE'S A ENCAMPMENT ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE FREEWAYS, THE BIG OCTOPUS MAZE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CALL IT HERE, BUT IT'S THE 30, GOING TO THE 45. THERE'S BEEN AN ENCAMPMENT THERE FOR MONTHS, AND I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT NO ONE IN THE CITY SEES IT, GIVEN HOW PROMINENT IT IS. IT'S DOWN THE FULL LENGTH OF THE CONCRETE. THERE'S BURN MARKS ALL OVER IT. THERE'S TRASH LOAD. I WOULDN'T KNOW HOW TO REPORT THAT BECAUSE IT, WHEN I GO ON 3 1 1, IT NOTES THE LOCATION. WELL, I CAN'T GIVE IT THE LOCATION. IT'S NOT A STREET ADDRESS. YEAH. SO A STRUGGLES LIKE THAT ARE REAL. THEY'RE OFTENTIMES, I'M REPORTING SOMETHING. I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. IT'S THE DUDE STANDING ON THE MEDIAN BETWEEN THESE TWO INTERSECTIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BOARD FELT. RIGHT. AND YOU CAN'T PUT THAT IN. AND I, I'LL JUST SAY, 'CAUSE I, I HAVE BEEN THERE, I HAVE REPORTED THOSE A LOT. UM, THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO IS JUST, UM, I USUALLY TAKE A PHOTO OF THE SITE SO THAT I CAN GO BACK AND DROP IN WHEN I'M PARKED. BECAUSE THAT'S SAFER. YES. SHOULDN'T BE TAKING PHOTOS WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING EITHER . UM, BUT THERE IS A PART IN 3 1 1 WHEN YOU'RE REPORTING WHERE YOU CAN DROP A PIN NEAR THE LOCATION. SURE. AND SO I JUST, I TAKE A VISUAL FOR MYSELF SO I CAN GO BACK AND DO THAT. AND THEN IT SAYS, IS THERE ANY DETAIL YOU CAN ADD THAT WOULD HELP? AND YOU CAN, LIKE I HAVE SAID, WELL, IT'S ON THE MEDIAN GOING NORTH AND LIKE BE AS DIS DESCRIPTIVE AS YOU CAN. I I'VE DONE IT. YEAH, I DO. I'VE DONE, I'VE GONE THAT FAR. I'VE ACTUALLY THEN HAD THE CODE OFFICER CALL ME AND SAY, I'M TRYING TO FIND THIS THING. AND I WAS LIKE, THEY'RE LITERALLY SITTING WHERE YOU DROP THE PICTURE AT IT, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. IT'S LIKE, JUST LOOK TO YOUR RIGHT, TO YOUR LEFT. AND, UM, JUST TO SPEAK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, THOSE ARE A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE THAT'S ON TECH STOCK. I KNOW PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, COMPLIANCE ADDRESSES THE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND I KIND OF FIGURED THAT'S PART OF IT. YEAH. IT'S A FREEWAY. IT'S A LITTLE HARDER. IT'S, BUT THE END OF DAY, AS I WAS DRIVING THROUGH, A WOMAN JUMPED OUT, THE FREEWAY RAN ACROSS, AND I ALMOST FEAR . NO, I GET IT. AGREED. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. OKAY. UH, ONE ROUND TWO. ANY COMMISSIONERS HERE, UH, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, OKAY. COMMISSIONER . OKAY. SO THANK YOU AGAIN. SO CHAIR, UM, HOPEFULLY I CAN HELP. I'M NOT THE WRONG ONE. I'M COMPLIANCE. OH, IS IT IN? BUT THREE ONE GOES INTO CODE COMPLIANCE. SAVE, SUBMIT, SUBMIT CASES FOR ALL DEPART. SO, OKAY. PARDON ME. SORRY. IT'S OKAY. YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK ON MY QUESTION THEN. OKAY. I THINK WE NEED TO GUESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SORRY. OKAY. AND YOU GUYS HAVE REQUESTED 3 1 1 COME BEFORE AND THEY'VE, UH, THEY'VE BEEN UPDATING FOR A LONG TIME AND NOW THAT WE'VE GOT EMCR MOVING OVER, UH, OR THE REORG THAT WAS HAPPENING, THE WAY THAT THEY'RE TRACKING THINGS IS CHANGING. SO I [01:05:01] THINK WE'LL START WITH THE EMCR COMING IN JUNE. UM, AND THEN FROM THERE WE CAN LOOK AT THESE 3 1 1. HAVE THEY REJIGGERED THE METRICS ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE READY TO COME? SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S, THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE 3 1 1 DIRECTOR ABOUT FOR QUITE A WHILE. 'CAUSE WE, WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WANT THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. OH, REVEREND , REVEREND COMMISSIONER MITCHELL MOVED. MR. JUST A, JUST THANK YOU. . RACHEL'S GOOD. YOU CAN'T CALL ME MITCHELL. . UM, FROM A CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, UH, THE, THE SORT OF PHRASE WAS USED, UH, YOU KNOW, 72 HOURS TO RELOCATE. WHERE, WHERE SHOULD INDIVIDUALS RELOCATE TO? YEAH. UM, WE, THERE'S A LOT OF SHELTERS. WE HAVE DAY SHELTERS AS WELL. UM, THE IDEA IS FOR THEM TO UTILIZE THOSE AREAS THAT OFFER FOOD. I KNOW, UM, SOME OF THE DAY SHELTERS GIVES THEM PRIVATE AREAS TO TAKE SHOWERS, TO WASH CLOTHES, TO PICK UP CLOTHES. THERE'S ALSO RESOURCES AVAILABLE AT THOSE CENTERS THAT MAY HELP THEM FIND JOBS OR, UM, HOUSING. SO IDEALLY, IF THEY ARE UN SHELTERED, UM, WE WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO ATTEND ANY OF OUR HOMELESS SHELTERS OR OUR DAY CENTERS FOR THE HOMELESS AND EMCR. OKAY. EMCR IS THE BOOTS ON THE GROUNDS NOW, SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUNE. OKAY. I GET, UH, I GUESS ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT WITH SORT OF A INCREASED, UM, YOU KNOW, A PROGRAM LOAD ON PLACES LIKE THE BRIDGE, UM, AND NOT A TON OF DAY SHELTER OPTIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR NONPROFIT SHELTERS ARE NIGHT ONLY SHELTERS. UM, I HAVE, I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, EVEN WITH 72 HOUR NOTICE, THE ABILITY TO, UH, HAVE INDIVIDUALS RELOCATE WITH ALL THEIR BELONGINGS. AND I JUST THEN I THINK IT RAISES THE NATURAL CONCERN. ARE WE CRIMINALIZING HOMELESSNESS IF WE DON'T HAVE AVENUES TO ACTUALLY HELP FOLKS RELOCATE OFF OF PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT IS NOT IN A SHELTER? YEAH. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN. UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS REGARDING PRIVATE PROPERTIES. THIS IS WHEN YOU'RE ON HAND CAMPING ON SOMEONE'S BUSINESS OR THEIR HOUSE OR THEIR BACKYARD FRONT YARD, WHEREVER. UM, THAT OF COURSE, THAT IT, IT, IT'S CONCERNING. HOWEVER, WE JUST WANNA GIVE THEM THE, THOSE THAT TIME TO AT LEAST VACATE FROM THAT PRIVATE PROPERTY. YEAH. AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DO, COMMISSIONER, I'LL ALSO ADD THAT, THAT WHILE CODE IS DOING THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, WHETHER IT'S EMCR OR THEY REFERRED OUT TO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR PEOPLE WHO WORKS WITH, UH, AREA COMMUNITIES AND BUSINESS STAKEHOLDERS, UM, BECAUSE PRIVATE PROPERTY CAN BE PERSONAL, IT CAN ALSO BE COMMERCIAL, UM MM-HMM . THERE IS SOMEONE WHO IS CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE ASPECT OF CONNECTING THEM TO SERVICE AND GETTING THEM WHAT THEY NEED. THAT'S NOT REALLY CODE'S ROLE, BUT OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PERMISSION TO DO THAT. THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, NO, YOU CAN'T COME ONTO MY PROPERTY. IT'S RARE, BUT WE DO HAVE TO SEEK PERMISSION. BUT THAT, THAT'S ONGOING. SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THERE'S JUST 72 HOURS NOTICE AND NOTHING. NO, I, I HEAR THAT. I HEAR THAT. AND LOOK, I THINK IT'S MORE OF A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION FOR WHEN EMCR ADDRESSES US IN JUNE. MM-HMM . HOPEFULLY I CAN ATTEND THAT MEETING OR AT LEAST SUBMIT MY QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME. UM, SO NO, I APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW THREE ONE ONE'S GOT AN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT JOB, UH, TO MANAGE ALL THE REQUESTS OF THE CITIZENS. AND, UH, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK Y'ALL DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. STORMY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND MAKING CLEAR THIS ISSUE AND, AND YOUR ING THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME ONE YOUR MEETING. OKAY. EXCELLENT. ALRIGHT, WE ARE AT, UH, AGENDA ITEM SEVEN. THIS IS OUR TASK FORCE UPDATE. UM, THIS IS GONNA BE A HIGH LEVEL PRESENTATION FROM OUR, UH, TASK FORCE CHAIRS. START WITH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. UH, COMMISSIONER HAWK. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANNA THANK MEMBERS OF THE HOUSING GROUP, BUT MYSTERY TO CHRISTINE AND OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN ANSWERING OUR ENDLESS EMAILS, LOOKING FOR HELPING US FIGURE OUT THE INFORMATION WE'RE [01:10:01] LOOKING FOR. DR. JACKSON PROVIDED US GRAPHICS. WE'VE HAD A REALLY GREAT PARTNERSHIP. I DO HAVE A WANNA MENTION THAT MY GROUP, MY TASK TASKFORCE IS STRUGGLING WITH A BIT OF CONSISTENCY OF DELIVERY. WE FEEL THAT THERE'S A BIT OF A PULL VERSUS PUSH KIND OF METHOD TO GETTING INFORMATION. AND ONE OF OUR GOALS WHEN WE MET EARLY IN THE YEAR AT OUR ORIGINAL, UM, WHAT WE CALL RETREAT RETREAT AND GOING FROM THERE WAS TO START GETTING CONSISTENT ON THESE THINGS SO THAT WE COULD DELIVER MESSAGING TO OUR COMMISSIONER, OUR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, PUBLIC AND BACK AND FORTH, AND TO MEET THE PART OF HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE BOTH WAYS, RIGHT? SO IT'S LIKE, IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE THAT WE GET TO SPEAK. I SPEAK RIGHT HERE 'CAUSE UM, WE ARE NOT SEEING THAT INFORMATION CONSISTENTLY IS, AND WE'RE GONNA COME UP VERY QUICKLY ON A YEAR. AND THAT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL DO SUCH GOOD THINGS AND HAVE SO MUCH INVESTED IN THIS THAT I'M STRUGGLING AS THIS TASK FORCE CHAIR TO SAY I'VE ACCOMPLISHED MUCH WHEN I FEEL LIKE I'VE THROWN A LOT OUT THERE AND I'M, I FEEL LIKE I'M PLAYING THE DONALD TRUMP OF THIS COMMISSION. I'M GONNA THROW EVERYTHING AT THE WALL AND HOPE SOMETHING STICKS AND NOTHING'S STICKING YET. I WANT US TO GET SOMETHING TO STICK FOR THE YEARS. SO HOW DO WE CHANGE THOSE? UM, IN OUR LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT HOW TO GET THE INFORMATION PUT INTO A PUBLIC SPACE WHERE IT'S JUST ACCESSIBLE VERSUS HAVING TO SORT THROUGH EMAIL CHAINS. I KNOW THAT PERSONALLY DIANA ASKED ME, WHAT CAN YOU FORWARD THAT EMAIL TO ME? LIKE, OH MY GOD, I GOTTA GO FIND THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY HAS THE ATTACH IN A BANK. IT HAPPEN. IT'S A BAD WAY TO, TO SHARE DATA, RIGHT? I MEAN, GOSH, THERE'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS DOING OR JOB ANYMORE , YOU KNOW, BUT WE, WE NEED TO IMPROVE THIS. I WANNA, AND THAT'S WHAT THE, THE TASK FORCE IS REALLY ASKING FOR. HOW DO WE GET CONSISTENT, RELIABLE, STANDARD INFORMATION SO WE CAN DO THE COMMUNICATIONS? 'CAUSE I THINK PART OF OUR GOAL IS TO PUBLICIZE ALL THIS GREAT STUFF WE'VE DONE. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO BACK IT UP, YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING SOMETHING. I KNOW PERSONALLY, I'M LIKE, I'M GONNA POST SOMETHING, BUT I CAN'T, 'CAUSE I CAN'T SAY I BELIEVE IN THE DATA, RIGHT? OR I DON'T HAVE. SO I THINK THAT, UH, WHAT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR BASICALLY IS SOME, SOME GUIDANCE AND SOME EFFORT HERE. HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER? HOW DO WE MAKE THIS HAPPEN? HOW DO WE BRING THE REALITY OF ALL THIS TO THE TABLE? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MY, MY TASK, OUR MEETING END . UM, MARISSA, I KNOW IT'S NOT AN AGENDA, IT'S JUST, AND WE HAVE STAFF ANSWER HIS QUESTION, UH, BRIEFLY, BUT IF YOU DO WANT LIKE A FULL DISCUSSION, WE'LL NEED TO POST IT FOR TOMA, THAT'S THE RIGHT THING WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ON. SO HERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTION, SO I'M JUST GONNA YEAH. PICK UP HERE IS THAT YOU NEED MORE SUPPORT FROM STAFF, UM, INCONSISTENCY SO THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR INITIATIVES THAT WE ADOPTED IT, UH, IN FEBRUARY CAN BE POSTED AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO, UH, I, YEAH, AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING THIS MORNING, BUT I HAD SAID I WANTED TO ATTEND MORE OF THOSE SO I CAN COMMIT TO ATTENDING THE NEXT MEETING AND JUST BEING IN CLOSER CONTACT WITH THIS GROUP. WE'VE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF THINGS. YEAH. UM, WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROBLEMS AND I THINK WE'RE LIKE RIGHT ON THAT EDGE, RIGHT ? YEAH. WE NEED, WE NEED TO GO FROM DISCUSSION TO IMPLEMENTATION. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. OKAY. YEAH. WE'LL MAKE, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT I'M AT THE NEXT MEETING. ALRIGHT. YEAH. THANK YOU. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, RACIAL EQUITY TASK FORCE WITH MIKE ONIC BROWN. AWESOME. UM, WE ARE ROLLING WITH THE PUNCHES RIGHT NOW. OF COURSE. UM, RACIAL EQUITY DOES NOT TASTE GOOD ON EVERYBODY'S TONGUE RIGHT NOW. UM, AND SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, DR. JACKSON TO SEE HOW WE CAN RECRAFT THAT, UM, AND ALSO BE READY TO GO BACK AND READJUST. RACIAL EQUITY IS HAVING TO GO THROUGH A READJUSTMENT BECAUSE THE CITY IS ALSO GOING THROUGH A READJUSTMENT. EVERYBODY'S GOING THROUGH A READJUSTMENT BECAUSE TO SAY RACIAL IS JUST A, JUST A NO NO WORRY RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S SCARY TO FUNDERS. AND I WAS ABLE TO, UM, HAVE A GREAT SIT DOWN WITH SARAH AND BRENDA OVER AT THE STU PO AND I MEAN, WE HAD A BALL AND WE REALLY GOT SOME OF THE MEAT AND POTATOES, UM, JUST TO FOLLOW UP FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, WHICH WAS WIDELY SUCCESSFUL. AND IT'S BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF OPEN UP DOORS SO THAT WAY WHEN WE ALL COME BACK AND MEET AGAIN AS THE TASK FORCE WILL BE READY. BUT TO BE QUITE HONEST, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A SHIFT RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY, AND IT'S NOT A LOT THAT RACIAL EQUITY CAN DO UNTIL THE SHAKY WATERS ARE STEEP. SO IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATION WITH ME, WITH DIRECTOR CROSSLEY. IT'S BEEN ME WITH COMMUNICATION WITH, UM, DR. MARCY JACKSON AND, UM, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. SO THAT WAY WHEN WE COME BACK IN, WE'LL HAVE LIKE, TO WHAT HE IS SAYING, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THAT COMMUNICATION IS SET STONE AND READY TO GO. UM, I HAVEN'T HAD THAT SAME PROBLEM WITH GETTING THE COMMUNICATION AND THE RESOURCES THAT I NEEDED. UM, BUT IT IS A LOT OF SELF, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT IT, [01:15:02] SELF-STARTING. SO IT'S JUST A LOT OF LIKE ME OVER CONTACTING AND ME MAKING SURE AND SETTING UP MEETINGS AND DOING THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SO THAT WAY WHEN WE HAVE A A, A RACIAL EQUITY TASK FORCE MEETING OR WHATEVER OUR NEW NAME MAY BE, UM, WE MAY HAVE A NEW ONE BY THE TIME WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING, . UM, THE, WE'RE NOT WASTING TIME BECAUSE THE MAIN THING WITH THE RACIAL EQUITY TASK FORCE IS WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA WASTE TIME. AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE MEETINGS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO NECESSARILY DISCUSS. RIGHT NOW IT'S A LOT OF, UM, IMPLEMENTATION AND LAND FOUNDATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE GROUND IS STABLE AND ROCKY, I MEAN NOT ROCKY ANYMORE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GO IN AND ACTUALLY CREATE AN EXERCISE. NOW ON A POSITIVE NOTE, UM, OUR NEXT COMMUNITY CONVERSATION IS GONNA BE IN SEPTEMBER. UM, AS WE ALL KNOW, BUDGET SEASON IS GOING ON. UM, I'M WORKING CLOSELY WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBER WITH THAT, BLESS THEIR HEART ON THAT JOURNEY. UM, AND EVERYBODY MAKE SURE Y'ALL ATTEND THOSE BUDGET TOWN HALLS. IF YOU HAD TO MAKE SURE YOU LET YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER KNOW WE GOTTA HOLD STRONG FOR OFFICE OF HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS, . UM, BUT IT'S BEEN A LOT OF ADVOCACY OF JUST LAYING THE FOUNDATION SO THAT WAY THE TASK FORCE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN A NICE STRUCTURED WAY. SO IT HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF, UM, MEETINGS. IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORKING WITH THE BIG COMMUNITY CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD. UM, WE'VE HAD MR. ALONZO WHO ATTENDED THE, UH, PANEL DISCUSSION BE WILDLY IN TOUCH AND ANSWERED, I THINK ALMOST ALL OF OUR REQUESTS THAT HAPPENED THAT DAY HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY, UM, SOLVED. AND THOSE PEOPLE HAVE FELT OVERWHELMINGLY HEARD, FELT AND APPRECIATED. UM, WE'RE WORKING ON A PILOT PROGRAM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF IN SHAKY WATERS BECAUSE WE'RE READJUSTING WITH THE, WITH US KIND OF BEING IN EMERGE WITH OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND OHS NOW. SO WE'RE HAVING TO GET FOOTING SO THAT WAY WE CAN BE ABLE TO, UM, DISSEMINATE AND ACT PROPERLY FOR THE NEXT COMMUNITY CONVERSATION. BUT THE NEXT COMMUNITY CONVERSATION WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER. AND BY THE TIME WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'LL HAVE THE DATE FOR THEN AND WHAT THE LINEUP'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. UH, DATA DRIVES INITIATIVE, TASK FORCE. UH, WE'LL HAVE OUR CO-CHAIR ANGELA CLINTON PRESENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIR. UH, WE MET ON MAY THE 12TH. AND THE AGENDA ITEM WAS, UH, KIND OF A CONTINUATION STRATEGY, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES REGARDING ENCAMPMENT ENGAGEMENT, CLOSURE, ENCLOSURE, MAINTENANCE. SO AS WITH OTHER TASK FORCES WITH THE CHANGE, UM, THAT'S GOING ON IN THE REORGANIZATION, WE SORT OF FELT LIKE THAT WE NEEDED TO TABLE THAT ITEM UNTIL, AND GIVE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT OF OPPORTUNITY TO ORGANIZE THEMSELVES, GET THEMSELVES GOING BEFORE WE START DOING A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW IN THEIR JOBS AND NEW TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST SEEMED LIKE A KIND OF A, AN AVENUE FOR A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, DIFFICULTY, UM, AND NOT GETTING QUESTIONS ANSWERED. SO WE TABLED THAT AND WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, GIVE EVERYBODY THE GRACE THERE AND THE TIME TO GET ORGANIZED AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. WE DID DECIDE THAT WE WOULD, UM, REQUEST 9 1 1 DISPATCH, UM, START LOOKING AT THAT DATA TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE REQUEST RIGHT CARE OR JUST, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS HOMELESSNESS ISSUES. WHAT HAPPENS DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 9 1 1. SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, REQUEST THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM 9 1 1 AT OUR NEXT MEETING. AND I GOT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER SHARED WITH YOU THAT WE GOT FROM E-M-C-R-E. YES, WE GOT, UH, QUESTIONS. UH, WHAT HAS WORKED FOR YOU IN YOUR DISTRICT? WHAT HAS NOT WORKED? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE AS FAR REGARDING HOMELESSNESS? SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS GOT THAT, BUT MY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SENT THAT TO ME. I'M GONNA GET THOSE QUESTIONS AND SEND THEM TO MS. RENITA SO WE CAN GET EVERYBODY'S INPUT, MAYBE GIVE IT TO THE DIRECTOR, UM, MAYBE HELP THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO ORGANIZE THEIR STRATEGY. AND SO YOU CAN LOOK FOR THOSE, LOOK FOR THOSE QUESTIONS IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. AND THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. UH, THIS IS OUR PLAN PLANNING OF OUR CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS RETREAT. UH, NITA SENT OUT AN EMAIL, THIS IS A DISCUSSION AND A VOTE. SO, UH, WE ARE GOING TO DECIDE WHAT THE DATE IS TODAY SO THAT WE DON'T DO WHAT WE DID LAST TIME. UH, SO NITA SENT OUT AN EMAIL, UH, THE ONLY OPEN DATES FOR OUR COMMISSION RETREAT IS JUNE 30TH AND JULY 1ST. AND, UH, I BELIEVE SHE ONLY RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE BESIDES MYSELF, UM, THAT I'M OPEN TO EITHER. UH, SO WE ARE GONNA, UH, I'D LIKE A MOTION, UM, ON WHICH DATE YOU [01:20:01] PREFER SO THAT WE CAN, UH, OPEN THIS TOPIC. AND THEN THE DATES WERE JUNE 30TH AND JULY 1ST. SO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION? YOU, SORRY, YOU TO THE, LIKE, RAISING THING AGAIN? . OKAY. SORRY. HIS HAIR JUST REAL. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER HUG. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE MAKE OUR RETREAT ON, UH, MONDAY, JUNE 30TH. UM, AND MAY I GIVE A LITTLE LOGIC TO THAT, UH, WAS MY MOTION? MOTION? AND WE'LL DO THE DISCUSSION. OKAY. OKAY. UM, ANY, ANY SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN. SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO HAVE OUR RETREAT RETREAT ON JUNE 30TH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, UM, OPENING FOR DISCUSSION. AND WE'LL CAN START WITH MR. HAWK SINCE MY, MY ONLY SUGGESTION IS THAT IS 4TH OF JULY WEEK. RIGHT. AND MANY PEOPLE USE THAT AS A WEEK TO GO AWAY. SO IF WE MAKE IT MONDAY, PEOPLE CAN AT LEAST MAYBE ATTEND AND THEN GO, VERSUS YOU MAKE IT TUESDAY, NOW YOU'RE BREAKING THAT WEEK UP ON THEM. SO JUST A KIND SUGGESTION DATE. SO YOU, YOU SAY IT'S A GOOD DATE BECAUSE IT'S BEFORE, UM, IT'S THE MONDAY VERSUS THE TUESDAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW I'LL BE GONE THAT WEEK, SO WELL, WE BOTH OF TO HAVE IT. YOU DON'T NEED ME. NO, BUT I'LL BE GONE. THAT, UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THAT ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND? UH, QUICK, QUICK THING. I ALSO, THIS IS JASMINE FLORES. UH, LIKELY WILL BE MS. FLORES, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. OH, GO AHEAD. APOLOGIES. THANK YOU. UH, I WILL LIKELY BE UNABLE TO JOIN. I'M GONNA TRY AND MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND, BUT JUST AS AN FYI, UH, AND MR. BOONE, I WILL ALSO BE UNABLE TO ATTEND. OKAY. UM, OKAY. ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I NOT, NOT IS SO WELL, THE FIRST TUESDAY. I KNOW WE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION IN BETWEEN THIS. WELL, IF IT PASS DOESN'T PASS, I, I KNOW. UM, I KNOW I WON'T BE ABLE TO ALL. SO, UM, WERE THERE, JUST ADD QUESTION. UH, WERE THERE ANY OPTIONS? JULY, OTHER THAN THE FIRST, UH, BECAUSE, UH, COUNCIL WILL BE ON RECESS AND A LOT OF STAFF, UH, WILL BE AVAILABLE, UH, OR JULY IS NOT RECOMMENDED. UM, BUT IF IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WE JUST DOESN'T PASS. AND, AND WE DO ANOTHER MOTION FOR JULY 1ST AND WE'LL BE WHAT HAPPENS? UM, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VOTE. UM, MOTION IS TO HAVE OUR CHC RETREAT ON MONDAY, JUNE 30TH. UH, THOSE IN FA ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ONE. SO DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. WE NEED, WE'RE GONNA DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. JUST A QUESTION OF ORDER HERE. OH, I MAY, DO YOU WANNA VOTE RIGHT NOW? BUT SURE. WELL, IT'S ON THE VOTE. YEAH. YEAH. IF I WANTED TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION, IS THAT JUST HEARING SOME OF THE FEEDBACK, I'M SORT OF FEELING LIKE I WANNA WITHDRAW, BUT I, I'M NOT SUPPORT OF IT. LIKE I WAS GOING INTO IT NOW IN HEARD FEEDBACK, SO I KINDA DON'T WANT A MOTION TO VOTE AGAINST MY MOTION. SO YES, YOU CAN'T VOTE AGAINST YOUR MOTION. MOTION. UM, IF YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW, THAT'S ALLOWED AS LONG AS YOU'RE SECOND AND NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY OBJECTION. THAT'S OKAY. SO GIVEN THAT I'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION AS I'M NOT IN FAVOR, I, I WOULD NO, SHE HAS TO BE WITHDRAW. I'LL WITHDRAW SECOND. ALRIGHT. DO WE HAVE A NEW MOTION? I'M GONNA MAKE A NEW MOTION TO OPEN UP THE IDEA TO HAVE ONE ON ANY, WELL, NOT THE FIRST, OBVIOUSLY IN JULY, MAYBE THE THIRD, FOURTH OR FIFTH WEDNESDAY, IN JULY, IT'S ALREADY OPEN FOR CITY COUNCIL. AND CITY COUNCIL WON'T BE IN SESSION AND WE'LL HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE ON JULY 3RD. NO, NO, NO, NO. ON ANY WEDNESDAY IN JULY 9, 16, 23 OR 30. YEAH, AFTER JULY 4TH. WE ALREADY HAVE THAT DAY SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL. SO IT'S NOT BLOCKED FOR ANY OF THE MEETING. SO WE HAVE IT OPEN. UM, SO WE, WE HAVE TO HAVE, THE ROOM HAS TO BE AVAILABLE, SO, OKAY. LET, HAVE WE CHECK JUANITA, PROVIDE SOME INPUT HERE. WE CAN CHECK THAT. SO THE MOTION IS TO, UH, CONSIDER THE THIRD WEDNESDAY IN JULY. THE WEDNESDAY'S IN JULY AFTER THE WE IN JULY ON NINE 16, THE 9, 16, 23 AND 30 30TH. OKAY. I CAN CHECK THOSE DATES. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. SO, UM, BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND, UH, THE MOTION IS TO, UH, PROPOSE THE, UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, NO. BACK AND FORTH. UM, LET, OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU. UM, SO THE MOTION IS TO, UM, [01:25:01] SCHEDULE. OKAY. UH, SO I'LL STATE THE MOTION AND THEN WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR DISCUSSION AGAIN. OKAY. SO THE MOTION IS TO, UH, HAVE THE RETREAT ON EITHER JULY 9TH, 16TH, 23RD, OR 30TH PENDING ROOM AVAILABILITY. AND THERE WAS A SECOND PROPER PROPERLY SECONDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER CLAPTON HOFF. WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION. VICE CHAIR BROWN. DID YOU HAVE, UM, COMMENTS? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN POSSIBLY NARROW IT DOWN NOW IF THERE IS SOME DATES, LIKE IS THE 30TH GOOD FOR EVERYBODY? WELL, WE WON'T, WELL, I'M JUST, BECAUSE IT'S JUST OPEN. IT'S OPEN CONVERSATION. YES. WE'RE HAVE A DISCUSSION. DISCUSSION, UM, UH, ALL OF OUR MEETING. SO WE WEREN'T AVAILABLE LAST MONTH, RIGHT? FOR JUNE. SO YOU, FOR JUNE, NOT JULY. I THOUGHT WE DID JULY ALSO. SO I, I'VE GOTTA RECOGNIZE YOU. IF YOU WANNA HAVE, WE HAVE DISCUSSION, WE CAN'T DO IT BACK TOWARDS . OKAY. THANK YOU, UM, FOR UNDERSTANDING THAT. UM, SO DO YOU WANNA WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AND PROPOSE DIFFERENT DATES? NO, I DON'T. IT NEEDS TO BE, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA WORK BECAUSE AUGUST, IT'S BUDGET SEASON UHHUH, SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY REAL SUPPORT THAT WE NEED. 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE WORKING ON BUDGET SEASON. SO YOU WANNA KEEP YOUR MOTION WITH THESE AVAILABLE DATES WITHOUT NARROWING IT DOWN. I WOULD LIKE TO NARROW IT DOWN TO MAYBE THE 23RD OR THE 30TH. IF YOU'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AND WE GET A SECOND, THEN YOU CAN DO THAT. SO IF YOU, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANNA DO. YEAH, I'LL WITHDRAW THE MOTION. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. SO MOTION WITHDRAWN. SO DO YOU WANNA PROVIDE ANY MOTION? YES. ARE YOU OKAY WITH WITHDRAWING? DO I HAVE TO SECOND SHE SECOND? DIDN'T YOU? YOU HAVE NO, ANGELA, YOU HAVE TO CONFIRM YOU'RE OKAY WITH HER WITHDRAWING BECAUSE YOU SECOND AT THE MOTION. OH, NO. OKAY, I'LL SECOND. THAT WAS WRONG. OKAY. THERE WE GO. GOT IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROPOSE ANY MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE DISCUSS TWO POTENTIAL DATES BEFORE. CAN WE DO IT LIKE THAT? JUST PROPOSE THE DATES AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE JULY 30TH AND JULY 23RD. ANY SECOND? SECOND. OKAY. PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND, UM, MOTION AND SECOND. UM, SO WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, MR. HAWK? I WOULD, UH, MY ONLY KNOW JULY 30TH IS MY BIRTHDAY. I WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE IT ON JULY 30TH, , BUT JULY 20 30TH. GOOD . OKAY, ALL. SO I'M OUTTA TOWN ON THE 23RD. I'M SORRY. UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO POSE AN AMENDMENT, PLEASE? NO, I'LL BE OKAY. I'M JUST SAYING IF THERE'S A LEANING, I'D RATHER LEAN TO THE 23RD, BUT I WILL GO WITH WHATEVER THE T AND I WOULD ALSO GIVE THE T PENDING ROOM AVAILABILITY TOO. WE'RE ALSO KIND OF LIMITED BY THAT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN. I AM NOT IN TOWN ON THE 23RD AND WOULD PREFER THE 30TH OF JUNE OR NOAH . OKAY, SO THE MOTION IS FOR JULY 23RD OR 30TH. SO, UM, OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'D LIKE TO HAPPILY, UH, VICE CHAIR BROWN. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO HAPPILY ADD THAT I WOULD, I WOULD PERSONALLY GET THE CAKE. WE COULD MAKE CELEBRATE THE 30TH WORK BECAUSE IF WE CAN GET THAT TOGETHER, I WOULD, I WOULD PROVIDE THE CAKE. UH, ANYONE VIRTUAL LAND. OKAY. SO NO BACK AND FORTH PLEASE. THANK YOU. UM, SO, UH, ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND WHO HAVE WANNA ADD TO THE DISCUSSION? OKAY. SO, UM, LET'S TAKE A VOTE. UH, THE MOTION IS TO HAVE THE CHC RETREAT ON EITHER JULY 23RD OR JULY 30TH, PENDING ROOM AVAILABILITY. UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. MOTION PASSES WITH UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. UH, WE'RE GONNA LOOK FOR JULY 23RD OR JULY 30TH FOR OUR, UH, RETREAT, WHICH, UH, THE SUBJECT MATTER WILL BE HMIS. UH, ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM. THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT. WOO HOO. ALL RIGHT. UM, ITEM NINE, DISCUSSION VOTES ON RESCHEDULING JUNE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION BOARD MEETING, WHICH WILL BE ON A FEDERAL HOLIDAY. UM, AND BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION, UM, WILL BE CLOSED THAT DAY? JUNETEENTH JULY 19TH. I'M SORRY, ON JUNE? NO, THIS IS FOR, ITEM NINE IS FOR JUNE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION BOARD MEETINGS? CORRECT. WHICH, UM, IT WILL BE ON JUNETEENTH, WHICH IS FEDERAL HOLIDAY. SO MIKE, UH, BEFORE WE GET A MOTION, UM, TO, TO EITHER MOVE OR NOT, UM, I JUST NEED TO GET CLARITY FOR RENITA ON WHETHER, UH, IS CITY HALL ON BREAK THAT DAY? YOU GO CHECK. SO WE'RE GONNA CHECK THAT AND THEN WE'LL ASK FOR A MOTION CITY HOLIDAY. IT IS A CITY HOLIDAY. YES. SO THERE WILL NOT STAFF AVAILABILITY OR I DON'T THINK SO. [01:30:01] I'M TRAVEL. OKAY. SO, UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO MOVE IT TO ANOTHER DAY, NOT THE 19TH. OKAY. SO PROPOSE A DATE. OKAY. SO JUST PROPOSE SOME DATES, IF YOU DON'T MIND, OR IF YOU WANNA PROPOSE CANCELING FOR MARK. THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION. SO NO BACK AND FORTH. UM, UH, RIGHT NOW BY CHAIR BROWN, I'D LIKE TO PULL THE MOTION. I'D LIKE TO CANCEL MY MOTION. OKAY. SO, UM, ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER HAWKE PER OUR MINUTES OF THE, SO WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW, AND SO I HAVE LOGIC TO THIS, OKAY. FOR OUR MINUTES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LIST OF JUNE DATES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY. IF YOU LOOK, WE ALREADY ASKED THIS QUESTION FOR THEY RETREAT, SO WE COULD USE THAT TO LOGICALLY MAKE A DECISION ON WHEN TO HAVE THIS MEETING. SEND AN EMAIL AS PENDING. THANK YOU. UM, I, I HEAR YOU AND I, I, I UNDERSTAND. UM, SO, SO THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR MOTIONS HERE, SO NO BACK AND FORTH. UM, UM, JUST HAVE ME GET BY, BY SOMEONE HERE. UH, SO I, I CAN'T, I'M NOT GONNA PROPOSE A MOTION AS CHAIR, BUT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CANCEL THE MEETING OR PROPOSE A DIFFERENT DATE, THERE COULD BE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR THAT, SIMPLY THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER HAW. ARE WE OPEN FOR PROPOSAL RIGHT NOW? WE'RE TAKING MOTION SO THAT, OKAY. WE HAVE A VOTE. I, I'LL CHANGE. I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION THAT WE MOVE THE MEETING FROM JUNE 19TH TO JUNE 26TH. THE ROOM IS AVAILABLE. IT'S ONE WEEK LATER. ANY SECOND? SECONDED. OKAY. SECOND BY CLAP. HOP MOTION IS TO MOVE THE JUNE 19TH MEETING TO JUNE 20 THURSDAY, JUNE 26TH. SAME TIME. OKAY. AND IT'S BEEN PROPERLY SECONDED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN. UH, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSION. ANYONE HAVE ANY, UM, UH, THING THEY WANNA ADD HERE? DISCUSSION. NOT SEEING ANYTHING IN VIRTUAL LAND. NOBODY HANDS ARE UP. ANYONE HERE IN, UH, CITY HALL? NO. OKAY. LET'S TAKE A VOTE. THE MOTION IS TO MOVE OUR JUNE 19TH MEETING, UH, TO JUNE, THURSDAY, JUNE 26TH AT 1:00 PM. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. UH, ANY OF ANY OPPOSITION? ANY OPPOSED HEARING NONE. UH, MOTION PASSES. SORRY, EVERYONE VOTE. DID EVERYONE VOTE ON THAT LAST ONE? UH, CHRIS FLORES. I CAN SEE YOU SPEAKING, BUT I CAN'T HEAR YOU. CAN YOU UNMUTE? I THINK SHE'S TALKING OFFICE SECOND. OKAY. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON WITH THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, UM, THAT PASSED. SO, UM, ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ON ITEM 10. UH, PROPOSED ITEMS FOR NEXT FUTURE MEETINGS BY COMMISSIONERS. UH, I'LL START. WE ARE GONNA DO THE, UH, SO, UH, OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, KIM BERT, UM, THAT APRIL 4TH MEMO ABOUT THE REALIGNMENT OF, UM, DECOMMISSIONING, UH, FROM OHS TO THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND PRICE CRISIS RESPONSE. THAT, UH, THAT'S MY PROPOSAL FOR, UM, NEXT MEETING. I TRIED TO GET IN ON THIS MEETING, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE LANGUAGE. IT IS GOING TO VOTE FOR, UM, CITY COUNCIL, BUT THAT'S MY PROPOSAL. AND I THINK I JUST GOT A THUMBS UP. SO THERE'S THAT. ANY OTHER, UH, OKAY, THERE'S GIGGLING HERE, SO I'M NOT, NOT SAYING ANYTHING. SO I, I KNOW. YEAH. SO, UM, SO, UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE ANY PROPOSED ITEMS FOR NEXT FUTURE MEETINGS? REMEMBER JUST MAKE THE PROPOSAL AND WE CANNOT DISCUSS, DEBATE OR VOTE ON IT. VICE CHAIR BROWN. UM, I THINK WE NEED TO, WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT WE GO BACK OVER, UM, THE PLANNING OF THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS RETREAT. WE DIDN'T COVER THE TOPICS. UM, SO THE POST TOPIC IS GONNA BE HMIS. NO, BUT THAT'S WHY I WANNA, WE NEED TO PROBABLY ASK IF IT'S ANYMORE WE WANNA, I DON'T WANNA PUT THE PLAN IS TO SPEND ALL DAY ON HMIS. UM, NOT ALL DAY, BUT WE'RE HAVING, THAT'S WHY I WANNA OPEN, SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DISCUSS. YEAH, THAT'S WHY I SAID I JUST WANNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO THE, FOR US TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT ELSE OTHER THAN YOU, OKAY. SO PROPOSED TOPIC, UM, ADDITIONAL, UH, PLAN ORDER. UH, YES, SIR. I, I DON'T BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY COVERED DATES, VENUES, THE OTHER DATES. WE, WE, WE DIDN'T COVER A SPEAKER TOPICS DURING THAT, DURING THE RETREAT, SO SHE [01:35:01] IS CORRECT IN ASKING, BUT WE JUMPED OVER ALL OF THAT. SO THIS IS FOR SUBJECT MATTER. UM, SO THIS IS, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION, SO WE REALLY CAN'T DO THAT. BUT, UM, LAST, WANNA GO BACK TO THAT AS A, UM, WE, WE'LL MAKE THAT A TOPIC FOR OUR, UH, NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE CAN FIRM THAT UP. BUT HMIS IS WITHOUT A DOUBT ON, SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY PROPOSED ITEMS FOR FUTURE? I'M LOOKING AT VIRTUAL LAND. ANY GETTING SOME FROM YOU? SO I'M JUST , RIGHT? UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING MEETINGS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA, WE'VE GOT MAY 27TH, DALLAS CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBER FOR THE HOUSING ANALYSIS SOLUTIONS COUNCIL COMMITTEE. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR MEETING, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO BE MOVED TO JUNE 26TH. AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, STATE OF THE HOMELESS ADDRESS. AND THAT IS GONNA BE ON MAY 20TH. UM, EMAILS WERE SENT OUT BY RO WITH INVITES. SO YOU ARE, UH, WE HAVE RESERVE SEATING. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE RESERVE, UH, TICKETS FOR US. UH, SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND, MAKE SURE YOU RESPOND TO YOUR NEED, HIS EMAIL, AND I HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY OVER HERE. OKAY. DO THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, SO WE'RE GONNA REOPEN THE TOPIC. UM, WE'RE GONNA REOPEN THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE RESCHEDULING OF THE JUNE CITIZEN DISCUSSION BOARD MEETING, AND HAVE A VERY BRIEF DISCUSSION SINCE WE HAVE ABOUT 15 MINUTES ON SUBJECT MATTER. OKAY. SO, UM, HOLD ON A SECOND. SURE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE ANNUAL RETREAT, SUBJECT MATTER AND OTHER PARTICULARS. I SECOND THAT. OKAY. SECOND BY. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GONNA REOPEN THE DISCUSSION. UM, SO WE'VE GOT THE PROPOSED DATES, WE HAVE THE VENUE WE'RE WAITING FOR MAKING SURE THAT'S OKAY. SO, UM, FOR OUR RETREAT, HMIS IS GOING TO, WHERE IS THE VENUE? I'M SORRY. UM, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, YOU CAN RECOGNIZE THE VENUE IS, UH, THE BRISCOE CENTER. WE COMPLETE LAST. OH, OKAY. SO, UM, WE ARE DOING HMIS, WE'VE GOT STAFF WHO CAN DO IT AND BASICALLY WALK US THROUGH WHAT IT IS WE NEED TO KNOW. IT IS, IT'S IN EVERY MEETING. IT'S IN EVERY DISCUSSION. SO WE'RE GONNA DO HMIS AND EXPLAINER. UM, I AM OPEN, WE'LL, THIS WILL BE A NO DISCUSSION, NO VOTE. UM, BUT IF YOU WANNA PROPOSE ADDITIONAL, UM, SUBJECT MATTER FOR THIS RETREAT, PLEASE DO SO. ANYONE? UH, I, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN. I SAID A QUESTION, COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THE RETREAT IS PLANNED? WHO PLANS IT? UM, WHO, WHO'S INVOLVED? LIKE WHAT, WHO SETS THE GOALS OF THE RETREAT? AND SO, UM, THIS CHAIR, UM, SAID THE SUBJECT MATTER IS HMIS. AND, UM, IT'LL BE PRETTY SIMILAR AS LAST TIME. IT'LL BE AN ALL DAY THING. IT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, WE GET, YOU KNOW, GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER. LAST TIME IT WAS LIKE MENTORING. LET'S, LET'S, LIKE, IT'S ON THE GROUND. WHAT ARE WE DOING? UH, WE HAD AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION BY, UH, SEVERAL FOLKS. MARCY JACKSON STANDS OUT. UM, SO I'M GONNA LET, YES, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY. SO LAST TIME, UM, WE TOOK THE DISCUSSION FROM THIS GROUP AND DID A LOT OF VERY GENERAL QUESTIONS AND DID A, UH, DOODLE POLL TO GET EVERYONE TO, TO ASK, YOU KNOW, SAY, THIS IS WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. THERE WERE OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS WHERE YOU COULD ADD THINGS THAT WE HADN'T COVERED. AND THEN WE PULLED TOGETHER A PROPOSED AGENDA FROM THAT AND BROUGHT IT BACK TO THIS GROUP AT A ANOTHER MEETING, WHICH I THINK WE HAVE MORE TIME. WE HAD ANOTHER MEETING WHERE YOU GUYS COULD FINE TUNE WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE, BUT WE COULD DO ALL OF THAT BY EMAIL THIS YEAR. YES, MA'AM. THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS GETTING READY TO MAKE. SO, UM, SO I'M GONNA PUT RIGHT NOW IF SHE HAS THE FLOOR. SO COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, UM, IS THAT, THAT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD SUGGEST HERE? IS THAT WE DO, LIKE, DO A FULL OR SOMETHING FOR SUBJECT MATTER? UM, SURE. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT 'CAUSE WE MAY HAVE NEW, UH, COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE POTENTIALLY WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN WITH US BEFORE LIKE I WAS LAST YEAR. UM, AND SO I, IT WOULD JUST BE GREAT TO BE, UM, AWARE AND, AND HELP BUILD, UM, [01:40:01] THE DAY. OKAY. SO YOUR SPECIFIC ASK IS FOR MY ASK WAS JUST HOW THE DAY WAS BUILT AND WHO BUILT IT. SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S BY YOU, BY YOU? WELL, YOU, YOU SAID BY THE CHAIR, BUT WELL, YOU COLLECTED INFORMATION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AND THEN IT'S PLANNED BY YOU WITH CHRISTINE OR YOU AND TRA MONICA AND CHRISTINE OR OHS. SO WE, WE JUST REFLECT THE INFORMATION BACK TO YOU GUYS AND THEN, 'CAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE A QUORUM ON EMAIL, WE'LL WORK WITH THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR ON, BUT THE DAY IS ORGANIZED AND RUN BY YOU AND YOUR TEAM. YES, YES. OKAY. WE'LL DO THE LOGISTICS FOR YOU. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE JUST, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AND, AND, OKAY. I THINK, UM, I DON'T THINK I'M SPEAKING OUT OF TERM AND NOT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMISSION REGARDING HMIS. IT IS A, IT IS DEFINITELY A NECESSITY I THINK. SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE THAT DEFINITELY BOLD. SO, UM, OKAY. SO YOU'RE, SO REALLY, YOU JUST HAD A QUESTION ON WHO AROUND IT. OKAY. SO, UM, AND UH, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? OKAY, GREAT. UH, VICE WRAP. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE A DOODLE POLL, SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY, SO THIS IS NOT A VOTE. WE CAN'T DO VOTE NO. UM, WE'RE JUST MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT BEFORE WE SET TONE ON WHAT IT'S GONNA BE THAT WE HAD, WE HEAR FROM ALL THE CONDITIONERS. SO THAT WAY WE CAN BUILD A COLLECTIVE RETREAT THAT'LL BE REFLECTIVE OF US ALL. SO DO YOU WANT A DOODLE POLL? YOU WANT AN EMAIL POLL? CORRECT. OKAY. SO WHEN AN EMAIL POLL GOES OUT, I NEED EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THEIR EMAILS AND ANSWER, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE AN EMAIL GO OUT ON A SUGGESTION SUGGESTED DATE THAT BERNITA HAD SENT OUT AND SHE HEARD FROM TWO PEOPLE. YEAH, I NEVER GOT IT. OKAY. SO, UM, ALL RIGHT, WELL I'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE EMAIL GOES THROUGH OUR CITY EMAIL AND IN THE PERSONAL EMAIL THAT WAY, UM, COVER BOTH. BUT, UM, IT'S SUGGESTED AND RECOMMENDED THAT YOU ANSWER FROM YOUR CITY EMAIL. SO, UM, SO IT'S JUST GONNA BE AN OPEN, PROBABLY JUST AN OPEN QUESTION. WHAT DO YOU WANNA SEE? AND, UM, SO DOES THAT, THAT ADDRESS YOUR, UH, SUGGESTION? OKAY. AND THEN ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS LOOKING OUT IN VIRTUAL LAND? THANKS FOR LOOKING BACK GUYS. . GREAT. OKAY. LET SEE SOME ENGAGEMENT. ALRIGHT, I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT TOPIC. SO, UM, CHAIR, I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, OH, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, YOU'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU MADAM. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THIS GOAL, BUT IS IT, UM, COULD WE WORK ON FILLING ALL OF OUR COMMISSION ROLES BEFORE WE HAVE OUR RETREAT? 'CAUSE WE HAVE SOME EMPTY, UM, DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW, THE APPOINTMENTS THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR APPOINTMENT. YEAH, MAY I, MAY I? YES MA'AM. ABSOLUTELY. LOGISTICALLY, UM, IF WE HAVE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS COMING IN IN JUNE, UH, IT USUALLY TAKES A WHILE FOR THE PAPERWORK TO GET SORTED OUT. SO IF YOU WANT THAT NOT TO REOPEN A CAN OF WORMS, BUT YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT HOLDING THE RETREAT LIKE OCTOBER AFTER THE BUDGET'S PASSED, OR DO ANOTHER, LIKE A MINI RETREAT IN OCTOBER. THAT'S PROBABLY WHEN YOU'LL SEE THAT I AM, UH, JUST ON A PERSONAL NOTE, THIS IS MY FINAL TERM. I MEAN, I'LL BE IN MOLD OVER STATUS UNTIL SEPTEMBER AND I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THIS RETREAT. , WE CAN DO SEPTEMBER THEN IF YOU WANT, BUT EITHER WAY YOU DON'T PROBABLY TAKE A WHILE. YEAH, ONCE, YEAH. YES, WE HAVE THREE OPEN RIGHT NOW. OKAY. SO ADDRESS ME IF YOU DON'T MIND. OKAY. OKAY. SO, UM, WELL WE VOTED ON A, UH, JULY 23RD, 26TH, UH, JULY 23RD. YES MA'AM. SO, SORRY. IT'S OKAY. SINCE WE CONSIDERED THE ITEM, IT WOULD BE PROPER TO HAVE ANOTHER MOTION JUST TO KIND OF TIE ON. OKAY. JUST RECONFIRMING THE DATES AND NOT, WE'RE GONNA COLLECT DATA. OKAY. OKAY. TOPICS. OKAY. SO DOES ANYBODY WANT TO, UM, PUT THE MOTION TO RECONFIRM, UM, THE SUBJECT MATTER AND, UH, DATES FOR THE RETREAT? I THINK COMMISSIONER HA. YES. I WILL POSE A MOTION TO RECONFIRM THE RETREAT DATES, TOPICS, AGENDA, SPEAKERS AS SPOKEN . SECOND. THANK YOU . UH, ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, LET'S TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD. NEXT ITEM. SO, UH, NEXT ITEM IS ADJOURNMENT. UNLESS THERE ARE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM, UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY WANNA ADD OR ITEM NINE, UM, I WILL ADD THAT, UM, THERE WAS AN EMAIL SENT OUT, UH, WHILE ALL MOST OF US WERE IN ROUTE. AND THEN ALSO PROVIDED HERE IN A HARD COPY. UH, THIS IS FROM NICOLE AND IT IS THE, UH, THE COLLECTIVE VOICES ACTION CHANGE. UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IS THIS VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES? [01:45:01] YES. IT'S A NATIONAL LOW INCOME HOUSING COALITION. IT'S A LISTERV THAT ANYONE CAN BE ON. UH, THEY ARE A GREAT NATIONAL BODY AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS ISSUES LIKE THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE FOR ENDING HOMELESSNESS. OKAY. AND THIS WAS A CALL FOR PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE TO BE PART OF A GROUP. SO IT'S A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO MAY KNOW SOMEONE THAT DID THAT. GREAT, THANK YOU. OKAY. AND WITH THAT IT IS, UM, OH KAREN, CAN I SAY ONE? YES, SURE. UM, COMMISSIONER CLAP EARLIER HAD MENTIONED THAT EMCR SENT A NOTE TO COUNCIL MEMBERS. THAT WAS ACTUALLY OHS. SO IF YOU'RE TALKING YEAH. IF YOU'RE TALKING TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER, OHS IS WORKING WITH ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AROUND COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES IN THEIR DISTRICT, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS ARE PART OF THAT. OKAY. UM, SO YOU'RE SENDING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEN THEY'RE SENDING IT TO THE COMMISSIONER? OR ARE YOU SENDING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE COMMISSIONER AT THE SAME TIME? IT WAS JUST US REACHING OUT TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, AS WE HAVE DONE BEFORE. SO WE CAN ALSO, I WILL ASK THAT TEAM TO REACH OUT TO CITIZEN HOME. THAT WOULD BE GREAT AS WELL. OKAY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO I'M ENCOURAGING EVERYBODY TO CHECK YOUR EMAIL. UM, SO THANK YOU WITH THAT, UH, THE TIME IS NOW 1453 AND THIS MEETING IS AUR ALL FOR YOUR HELP. HI EVERYONE. BYE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.