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YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM TENNELL ATKINS, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ADAM BAZALDUA, COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST, JESSE MORENO.
ZARIN D GRACEY CAROLYN KING ARNOLD JAIME RESENDEZ.
OMAR NARVAEZ. PAULA BLACKMON. KATHY STEWART. JAYNIE SCHULTZ.
CARA MENDELSOHN GAY DONNELL WILLIS. PAUL E RIDLEY.
[Call to Order]
THIS IS A NEW MICROPHONE HERE. WE HAVE HERE. OKAY.OH, THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A QUORUM.
TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 21ST, 2025 TIMES 9:29 A.M..
AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.
TODAY OUR INVOCATION. SPEAKER, I BELIEVE IF HE IS ARRIVED RIGHT HERE.
RIGHT. OH, THERE HE IS RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS OUR COUNCILMAN ZARIN D GRACEY FROM DISTRICT THREE.
FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, HE'S ALSO AN EXECUTIVE PASTOR AT CONCORD CHURCH.
WITH HUMBLE HEARTS. WE EMBRACE YOUR PROMISE FOUND IN PROVERBS 16 AND THREE.
COMMIT TO THE LORD WHATEVER YOU DO, AND HE WILL ESTABLISH YOUR PLANS.
AS WE REVIEW THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE 20 2526 HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN BUDGET, WE PRAY THAT THEIR DECISION THAT OUR DECISIONS ARE ROOTED IN EQUITY, PASSION, ENSURING THAT ALL CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY THE VULNERABLE, ARE SUPPORTED AND UPLIFTED.
FINALLY, FOR THE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE STRATEGY, MAY WE CRAFT A PLAN THAT WISELY UTILIZES RESOURCES AND ACHIEVES A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR, REFLECTING RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP AND CARE FOR OUR CITY.
LORD, ESTABLISH THE PLANS LAID OUT TODAY ACCORDING TO YOUR WILL.
LET YOUR WISDOM AND PEACE BE THE CITY. BE THE CITY COUNCIL AS THEY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. IF EVERYONE WHO CAN PLEASE WOULD RISE SO WE CAN HAVE OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO FIRST THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND THEN THE STATE OF TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS.
ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YOU MAY BE SEATED. ALRIGHT. I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM MEMBERS, BUT I'M GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT ARE OF A PERSONAL NATURE.
SO THE FIRST I'LL SAY IS TODAY IS MY BABY GIRL LILA'S FOURTH BIRTHDAY.
SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO LILA REESE JOHNSON ON TURNING FOUR YEARS OLD.
I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH, BABY GIRL. SO THAT'S MY FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT.
MY SECOND IS I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FOURTH GRADE BOYS AT SAINT MARK'S SCHOOL OF TEXAS, WHOSE SPRING VALLEY ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION TEAM WON THE LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP LAST NIGHT IN INCREDIBLE FASHION.
SO MY SON'S ON THAT TEAM. HE'S VERY EXCITED. THEY GOT RINGS AND EVERYTHING.
SO WITH THAT MADAM SECRETARY, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.
[Open Microphone Speakers]
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING. THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS ALL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.[00:05:07]
WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIMER ON THE ON THE PODIUM, ON THE MONITOR, AND THAT'S ON THE PODIUM.
WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, PLEASE STOP. ALSO, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY.
ALL SPEAKERS ARE IN PERSON. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, EDDIE PROBST.
GOOD MORNING. I MISS ANA. AND I'M JUST HERE TO LET YOU ALL KNOW I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO.
AND I MET A LADY FROM SAINT LOUIS THAT WORKED HERE AT THE CITY HALL.
SHE SAID HER NEIGHBORHOOD IS TORE UP IN SAINT LOUIS.
AND SHE SAY WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP OUR OWN MESS.
THE CITY DIDN'T COME IN AND DO NOTHING. I SAID, YEAH, I CAN BELIEVE THAT.
AND WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR COMMUNITY, IN THE DESERT ZONES AND ALL THAT.
BUT RIGHT THERE ON SUNNYVALE AND OVERTON ROAD, MISS ANA, THAT CHICO ON THAT CORNER, THAT THAT LITTLE, THAT LITTLE VACANT LOT THERE WOULD MAKE A GOOD TORNADO SHELTER FOR A RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR SENIOR CITIZENS, YOU KNOW. I KNOW HOW TO CULTIVATE THEM AND PUT THEM TOGETHER ON THAT LITTLE PLOT.
YOU CAN PUT ABOUT 15 TORNADO SHELTERS IN THERE.
EACH PERSON HAS THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL SHELTER.
YOU JUST HAVE TO GO LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK AT THAT PLOT.
AND YOU CAN ALSO PUT A GARDEN ON IT SINCE IT'S A DESERT STORM AREA.
BUT UP IN OKLAHOMA ALL THE WAY, THE WEATHER WENT THROUGH THERE AND TORE UP ALL THAT LAND.
THERE'S A LOT OF BLACK OWNED LAND UP THERE. THEY GOT THEIR OWN TOWNS THEY CALL BLACK FREEMANS.
THEY COME FROM TEXAS, AND WE DO NEED CONGRESS.
PEOPLE LIKE JASMINE CROCKETT TO GO HELP US UP THERE.
WE DO NEED PEOPLE LIKE NAACP OR OIL AND GAS TO HELP US UP THERE.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLES NO MORE. THEY DIED OFF.
WE HAVE A CULTURE TOO. AND Y'ALL KNOWING IT. AND WE KNOW HOW.
WE HAVE THAT AND THAT REALLY SOME MONEY COMING OUT OF DALLAS, TEXAS.
AND I DO WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY TODAY.
AND WE WILL TALK. THANK YOU. ARMOND WARD.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ARMOND WARD, A CONCERNED RESIDENT OF DALLAS.
I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE ESCALATING SAFETY CONCERNS IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.
RECENT REPORTS INDICATE THAT TEXAS RANKS 10TH IN NIGHTLIFE DANGER, WITH DOWNTOWN DALLAS EXPERIENCING A SIGNIFICANT SURGE IN VIOLENT CRIME BETWEEN 2019 AND 2023. VIOLENT CRIME IN DOWNTOWN INCREASED BY 42%, EVEN AS THE CITYWIDE RATES DECLINED BY 14%.
BUSINESSES ARE RELOCATING AND POTENTIAL INVESTORS ARE HESITANT, FEARING FOR SAFETY.
I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PRIORITIZE PUBLIC SAFETY BY ALLOCATING RESOURCES FOR INCREASED POLICE PRESENCE, ENHANCING COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, AND IMPROVING COORDINATION AMONG SAFETY AGENCIES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU CHRIS.
GOOD MORNING. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
I'M CHRIS HEINBAUGH, CHIEF ADVOCACY OFFICER AT THE AT&T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
I AM ALSO ON THE VISIT DALLAS BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THE DALLAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL BOARD.
BUT I'M HERE TODAY WITH MY COLLEAGUES TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, BECAUSE THE ARTS COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THIS REALLY GOES BACK MANY YEARS BACK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOWN THE ROAD OF REIMAGINING WHAT THE CONVENTION CENTER WOULD
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BE, AND ROSA TOLD US THE BEST CONVENTION CENTERS SHE WAS SEEING AROUND THE COUNTRY INFUSED LOCAL ART AND CULTURE.AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE CAME BACK AND ASKED YOU ALL TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT FOR VOTERS TO DECIDE.
AND THEN WHEN IT CAME TO DO THE LEGWORK TO GET PROPOSITION EIGHT APPROVED, WE DID PRESS.
ON ELECTION DAY, THE ARTS SHOWED UP. NOW, YOU MIGHT WONDER, WHY ARE WE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT A CONVENTION CENTER? WELL, FIRST THERE IS THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT THAT COMES FROM THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, WHICH NOW MAKES UP ONE THIRD OF THE BUDGET FOR THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
AND THOSE FUNDS SUPPORT VENUES, ARTISTS AND ARTS ORGANIZATIONS THAT DRAW TOURISTS TO DALLAS.
THAT'S THE LOGIC BEHIND A HOT FUNDS SUPPORTING ARTS AND CULTURE.
THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE DALLAS TOURISM PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, PART OF WHICH WAS CRAFTED TO SUPPORT DALLAS ARTS AND CULTURE ORGANIZATIONS WITH GRANTS. AND THEY'VE GIVEN OUT $12 MILLION IN GRANTS SINCE THIS WAS STARTED IN 2013.
DALLAS IS A TOP DESTINATION AND OUR CULTURAL IDENTITY IS A DEEP PART OF THAT.
IT MAKES OUR CITY SEXY, ATTRACTIVE, CLASSY, UNIQUE.
WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU FIND A MAJOR WORLD CLASS MODERN SCULPTURE COLLECTION IN A SHOPPING MALL? NORTH PARK, RIGHT. THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT SAYS ABOUT US NOW.
DOES IT MEAN THAT ALL THE PEOPLE COMING TO CONVENTIONS AND MEETINGS IN DALLAS ARE GOING TO COME TO OUR SHOWS AND MUSEUMS? WELL, I'D LOVE THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.
USUALLY THEY COME HERE FOR THE CONVENTIONS, BUT WITH A SHOWCASE LIKE THIS CONVENTION CENTER FEATURING OUR OUR ART, OUR CULTURE, OUR ARCHITECTURE, OUR STORIES, OUR HISTORY, THEY WILL COME BACK AND THEY WILL BRING THEIR FAMILIES, AND THEN THEY WILL COME TO OUR SHOWS AND OUR MUSEUMS AND THE DALLAS ARTS DISTRICT, THE BEST CULTURAL DISTRICT IN THE UNITED STATES.
SO YES, WE SUPPORT THIS, BUT I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU, WE HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED.
THIS TIMELINE CANNOT SLIP. STAFF COUNCIL VISIT DALLAS.
EVERYBODY HAS TO WORK LIKE NEVER BEFORE. THERE IS NO WIGGLE ROOM.
SO, MAYOR, MANAGER TOLBERT ROSA. ALL OF YOU AND YOUR TALENTS.
YOUR TIME. YOU'VE GOT YOUR HANDS FULL. GET THE DIRT FLYING.
AND, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU, GARY SANCHEZ. GOOD MORNING. I AM GARY SANCHEZ.
I'M THE SENIOR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY IMPACT, EQUITY AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS AT VISIT DALLAS.
AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF YOUR BRIEFING AGENDA ITEM A, THE CONVENTION CENTER COMPONENT OF OUR KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN AT VISIT DALLAS. WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE AND THE PLEASURE OF MARKETING OUR CITY AS A GREAT PLACE FOR LEISURE TRAVEL AND AS A PREMIER DESTINATION FOR MEETINGS, CONVENTIONS AND SPORTING EVENTS OF ALL SIZES.
FOR DECADES, DALLAS HAS BEEN THE ENVY OF MANY CITIES BIDDING FOR CONVENTIONS BECAUSE OF OUR CENTRAL LOCATION, MODERATE CLIMATE, SEVERAL AIRPORTS, AN ARRAY OF ACCOMMODATIONS AND ATTRACTIONS, AND OF COURSE, THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. WE'RE PROUD TO SHARE THAT WITH A LOT OF WORK AND SUPPORT FROM THIS COMMUNITY.
SIGHT UNSEEN. OUR TALENTED STAFF AT VISIT DALLAS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS HAVE SECURED 60 FOR MAJOR CONVENTIONS AT THE CENTER STARTING IN EARLY 2029. COLLECTIVELY, COLLECTIVELY WORTH MORE THAN $1.6 BILLION.
BUT ALL OF THAT HINGES ON KEEPING THE TIMING OF THIS PROJECT ON TRACK.
DATING BACK TO 2022, SEVERAL ITEMS AND COMPONENTS OF THIS MASTER PLAN HAVE COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND AND EACH WAS RECEIVED WITH ENTHUSIASM AND SUPPORT. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT SAME ENTHUSIASM AND SUPPORT FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER COMPONENT OF THE MASTER PLAN.
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AND ALL THE CITY OF DALLAS STAFF WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY TO ADHERE TO THE CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN AND ITS TIMELINE.NONE OF THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THEIR HARD WORK AND THEIR DEDICATION AND OF COURSE, WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JAMES SMITH.
GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M JIMMY SMITH, THE CHAIR ELECT FOR VISIT DALLAS.
SPEAKING ENTHUSIASTICALLY TO SUPPORT FOR THE MASTER PLAN IN ITS CURRENT FORM.
HAVE YOU HEARD THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS? THIS IS THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER WILL MAKE DALLAS A LEADER IN MEETINGS AND CONVENTIONS, HELPING US COMPETE WITH TOP CITIES LIKE CHICAGO, LAS VEGAS, AND NEW YORK.
THIS NEW CENTER WILL BE FINALLY. THIS NEW CENTER WILL FINALLY BE THE QUALITY THAT DALLAS DESERVES AND WILL SURELY DRAW HIGH END CONVENTIONS AND SPORTS EVENTS THAT WE WERE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST. THE CURRENT CONVENTION CENTER CANNOT ACCOMMODATE OUR CURRENT DEMAND.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMITMENT TO TO COMPLETING THIS SIGNATURE PROJECT THAT WILL STRENGTHEN CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT DALLAS, ESPECIALLY TO THE SOUTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR.
I SEE THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND CHAIRMAN MORENO. I JUST WANTED I'LL START WITH YOU.
I JUST WANT TO WAIVE THE MOTIONS FOR THE REST OF THE SPEAKERS.
YOU WANT TO SUSPEND THE RULES? SUSPEND THE RULES TO HEAR THE REST? YES. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT? IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED.
WE'LL HEAR THE REST. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE WILL CONTINUE.
YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, TAMMY PIERCE. TAMMY PIERCE IS NOT PRESENT.
GOOD MORNING. MAYOR. COUNCIL CITY MANAGER MISS KIMBERLY TOLBERT.
I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON PROJECT IN SUPPORT AND ASKING THE CITY OF DALLAS NOT TO DISPOSITION AND MOVE THIS PROJECT FOR THREE MAJOR FACTORS. NUMBER ONE, THE TAXPAYERS OF DALLAS, NUMBER TWO, THE TRINITY ALLIANCES TEAM.
AND NUMBER THREE, THE TEAM THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
I FEEL THAT WITH ALL OF THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE, ALL THE ALL THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS AND CIVIL ENGINEERING, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THIS PROJECT, ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE REDONE OVER AGAIN.
TURNER, STEVEN ROSS, BOA CONSTRUCTION. NOSA. I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH AKARI.
WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER AS A COLLECTIVE BODY, AS A TEAM, AT THE BEHEST OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
THEY'VE WORKED WITH US, THEY'VE MET WITH US, WITH UNITED BLACK CONTRACTORS, AND WE HAVE A CONTINUITY AND A SYNERGY THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO CAPACITY BUILD. AND AS FAR AS THE TEAM IS CONCERNED, AS I JUST ADDRESSED, IS THAT I'VE NEVER SEEN A CITY LIKE THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT HAS WORKED WITH ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS UNITED BLACK CONTRACTORS TO CAPACITY BUILD UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF MISS KIMBERLY TOLBERT YASHIRO.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE AND WORKING WITH STAFF.
SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU, LIKE PEOPLE WOULD SAY, THE OLD SAYING, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
PLEASE CONTINUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SEAN COONERTY.
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OBVIOUSLY, IT'S IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. THIS IS A MAGNET FOR GROUPS AND CONVENTIONS THAT WILL COME TO OUR CITY.YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BIG THING FOR AS WE LOOK AROUND, NOT ONLY THE THE REST OF THE COUNTRY AND WHO WE COMPETE AGAINST WHEN WE LOOK IN OUR BACKYARD HERE IN TEXAS, WE'VE GOT AUSTIN, SAN ANTONIO CONTINUING TO TO MOVE FORWARD AS WELL AS HOUSTON.
AND I THINK DALLAS HAS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO OUTCLASS THE THE COMPETITION HERE IN TEXAS AND REALLY DRIVE CONVENTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES NOT ONLY FOR HOTELS IN THIS COMMUNITY, BUT JOBS AS WELL, WHICH WILL BE CRITICAL FOR US AS WE DEVELOP DOWNTOWN INTO A DESTINATION THAT IS NOT ONLY FOR THOSE COMING IN FOR CONVENTIONS, BUT FOR THOSE THAT LIVE HERE IN DALLAS TO BE ABLE TO EXPLORE.
SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY. OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL PICTURES SURROUNDING YOU HERE TODAY, BUT WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.
EVERY DAY COUNTS. WE ARE IN THE BOOKING WINDOW FOR THESE CONVENTIONS TO BE BOOKING AND SOME OF THIS UNCERTAINTY HAS IMPACTED THEIR ABILITY TO TO BOOK BUSINESS MOVING FORWARD. BUT WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TIME THIS MORNING.
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. HARRISON BLAIR.
GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL.
I AM HERE AS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE DALLAS BLACK CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND AS A BOARD MEMBER OF VISIT DALLAS, AND A RESIDENT WHO'S EXCITED ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT AND THE REIMAGINING OF OUR CONVENTION CENTER.
AND EVERYTHING THAT I'M GOING TO SAY HAS PROBABLY ALREADY BEEN SAID.
SO I'M GOING TO CUT TO THE CHASE, AND I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME MILESTONES THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT AND WHY WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS PROJECT. THE FIRST IS THAT THE ENTIRE CITY HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS. THIS CITY EVEN HAD THE NERVE TO COME BELOW 30 AND ASK US WHAT WE THINK ABOUT OUR CONVENTION CENTER.
AND I GOTTA SAY, I'M LOW KEY IMPRESSED. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
WE MIGHT HAVE STAVED OFF LOSING OUR LIGHT RAIL.
WE'LL FIND OUT JUNE 1ST. WE CAN'T STOP NOW. WE NEED TO THROW SOME DIRT.
SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN REALLY GET THIS PROJECT DONE.
AND IT'S THE O'JAYS MAY SAY, GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JOHN MARTINEZ.
GOOD MORNING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER.
MY NAME IS JOHN MARTINEZ. I'M WITH THE REGIONAL HISPANIC CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION.
I KNOW YOU MAY THINK THAT I COME HERE JUST BECAUSE IT'S A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND I DO.
I'LL BE VERY HONEST. IT IS A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, BUT I COME HERE AS ALSO A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF DALLAS, TEXAS. YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK OF THE STATE FAIR, I THINK OF THAT'S ONE OF THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE WHERE WE ARE UNITED.
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW RICH YOU ARE OR WHAT PART OF TOWN YOU LIVE IN, THE FAIR IS ALL OF US.
AS A GROWN ADULT HERE, WHOEVER I TALK TO THAT GREW UP IN DALLAS, I CAN SHARE STORIES WHERE WE HAVE SHARED MEMORIES OF THE STATE FAIR WITH OUR FAMILIES. I TRULY BELIEVE THE CONVENTION CENTER IS ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY THAT CAN UNITE OUR CITY, AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
I WILL ALSO TELL YOU, YES, IT IS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION JOBS THAT PAY WELL.
I WILL TELL YOU IN OUR PROJECT WE'RE FINISHING REMODELING OUR BUILDING.
IT'S A $4 MILLION BUILDING. THE PERSON THAT JUST PICKS UP TRASH.
GETS PAID $22 AN HOUR. THAT'S ALL $22 AN HOUR PICK UP TRASH.
THESE ARE WELL PAYING JOBS. BUT MORE THAN THAT, IT LEADS TO PERMANENT JOBS.
ONCE THE CONVENTION CENTER IS BUILT AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND IT AND ALL THOSE BUILDINGS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTINUAL PAYING JOBS. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S IN THE MARKET WITH THE JACK IN THE BOX CLOSING, THE DOLLAR TREE, CLOSING ALL THOSE OTHER ONES, WE NEED THOSE ENTRY LEVEL JOBS HERE IN DALLAS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE PERMANENT JOBS, ONE THROUGH THE TO THE CONSTRUCTION AND TWO TO THE PERMANENT JOBS THIS CONVENTION CENTER HAS. AND IT NEVER HURTS WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN UNITE OUR CITY, LIKE THE STATE FAIR AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
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I ASK YOU THAT I WHOLEHEARTEDLY ENDORSE THIS PROJECT, AND I ASK YOU TO PLEASE, LET'S MOVE FORWARD SOONER THAN LATER.THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GLORIA CARBAJAL.
MY NAME IS GLORIA CARBAJAL WITH HORSE CARE AND HORSE CARRIAGES.
DALLAS. TODAY IS MY SIXTH TIME SPEAKING ON THIS TOPIC.
ON BEHALF OF THE HORSES WHO CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, I AM ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ON THE OBVIOUS SOCIAL CONCERN DALLAS CITY STREET SAFETY. JUST TWO DAYS AGO, ANOTHER HORSE CARRIAGE ACCIDENT WAS REPORTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND THE ARTICLE CAN BE FOUND IN THE NEW YORK POST.
HEADLINE READS CENTRAL PARK HORSE RUNS WILD WITH WITHOUT DRIVER IN SHOCKING VIDEO.
ONE OF THE MOST TERRIFYING EXPERIENCES OF RUNAWAY CARRIAGE HORSE NEARLY TRAMPLED PARKGOERS, WHO JUMPED OUT OF THE WAY TO AVOID BEING KILLED, AND WHO TELL US THEY ARE NOW TRAUMATIZED.
IT DOES NOT MATTER THAT THIS DID NOT OCCUR HERE IN DALLAS.
WHAT MATTERS AT THIS THAT IS THAT THIS IS AN OBVIOUS EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS AT STAKE.
IT IS. IT IS AN OBVIOUS EXAMPLE THAT THIS TRADE IS DANGEROUS AND THAT WHAT MUST THAT WE MUST BE PROACTIVE IN MAKING CHANGES, NOT REACTIVE. BY NOW, ALL OF YOU HAVE SEEN THE MANY VIDEOS POSTED, SHARED AND HAVE SEEN THE HORSE CARRIAGES FOR YOURSELF AND WHAT ARE ALREADY VERY CROWDED, CONGESTED DALLAS CITY STREETS. WE, AS ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN THE US, MUST SET THE EXAMPLE.
ALONG WITH OTHER CITIES SUCH AS SAN ANTONIO, WHO HAS WHO HAVE ALREADY STARTED THE HUMANE TRANSITION.
WHILE IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN AT LEAST ONE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT AUSTIN DOES NOT HAVE A BAND, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT OUR ADVOCACY FRIENDS THERE ARE KEEPING A WATCHFUL EYE.
THEY DO TELL US THAT THE HORSE CARRIAGE TRADE IS NOT SEEN IN THEIR STREETS.
THERE IS NO PLACE THAT HAS NO PLACE IN TODAY'S MODERN SOCIETY.
THE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS WHO DO SUPPORT THIS TRADE HAVE ONLY ONE THING TO LOSE PRIDE.
WHILE THE CITY HAS SO MUCH MORE IN THE WAY OF PUBLIC SAFETY, THE CITY CAN PROVE ITSELF TO PRACTICE WHAT IT PREACHES, TO AIM TO BE A SAFE CITY WITH CONCERNS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY BY BEING PROGRESSIVE IN USING AND ACTING COMMON SENSE LEGISLATION.
DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS YOU HAVE SEEN, THESE CARRIAGES ARE VERY BUSY PARTS OF TOWN.
SUCH AS A NEAR KLYDE, WARREN PARK, AT&T DISCOVERY DISTRICT, WEST END HISTORICAL DISTRICT.
WE HAVE NOTICED THAT THEY HAVE BEEN MOVING AWAY FROM THESE MAJOR LOCATIONS.
WHICH LEADS US TO A NEW CONCERN IN THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ROUTES.
THANK YOU AGAIN. PLEASE BRING BACK AGENDA ITEM 62 TO FULL COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR RAMIREZ.
GOOD MORNING COUNCIL I'M MADDIE WITH BAN HORSE CARRIAGE DALLAS AS WELL.
I'M HERE TO ASK IF NUMBER ITEM NUMBER 62 COULD BE BROUGHT BACK UP TO DISCUSSION FOR DISCUSSION.
HORSES ARE NOT OR SHOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED OBJECTS, PROPERTY TOOLS TO BE EXPLOITED AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW FOR ONLY PROFIT AND GREED. I MYSELF PERSONALLY HAVE WITNESSED THEM OUT IN THESE BUSY, DANGEROUS AND LOUD STREETS OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS AND DANGEROUS AND ALL SORTS OF WEATHER CONDITIONS.
EXTREMELY HOT, REALLY COLD, RAIN AND EVEN THUNDERSTORM CHANCES.
THESE GENTLE, VERY SENSITIVE BEINGS DESERVE TO RETIRE TO GREEN PASTURES, NOT ON HARD PAVEMENTS, ENDURING UNCOMFORTABLE NOISES AND TERRIBLE BODY HARNESSES.
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THERE ARE THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A LATE ADDITION TO YOUR SPEAKERS LIST.
MAYOR JOHNSON, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY MANAGER KIM TOLBERT.
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JOSHUA WASHINGTON, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE REGIONAL BLACK CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION CHAIRMAN, JOHN PROCTOR. AS WE KNOW THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT MARKS A BOLD AND TRANSFORMATIVE STEP FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE REGIONAL BLACK CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION. THIS PROJECT IS MORE THAN STEEL AND CONCRETE.
IT'S ABOUT ACCESS, INCLUSION, AND OPPORTUNITY.
THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS A REAL AND IMMEDIATE CHANCE TO CONNECT OUR BCA'S CDCS WORKFORCE TRAINING PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS TO LONG TERM CAREERS IN CONSTRUCTION, TRADES AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT. OUR TRAINEES, MANY OF WHOM COME FROM HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED BACKGROUNDS, WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN HANDS ON EXPERIENCE WORKING ALONGSIDE SEASONED PROFESSIONALS AND CONTRIBUTE TO ONE OF THE CITY'S MOST HIGH PROFILE DEVELOPMENTS.
THE EXPANSION OF KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON IS MORE THAN JUST ENHANCING THE FACILITY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA.
[1. 25-1675A Approval of Minutes of the May 7, 2025 City Council Meeting]
THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE MAY 7TH, 2020 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.
NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM. AGENDA ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
[2. 25-1676A Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]
THIS MORNING YOU HAVE TWO INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS.LETHE. SARIKA IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ.
THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES. MISTER MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? SO MOVED. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR NOMINEES, MISTER MAYOR.
YOUR BRIEFINGS CONTINUE. WONDERFUL. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER.
[A. 25-1654A Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas Master Plan - Convention Center Component Update]
THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. TODAY IS AN EXCITING DAY FOR DALLAS.
OUR FIRST BRIEFING IS AN UPDATE ON THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN.
THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS THE NEXT CHAPTER IN DALLAS STORY OF INNOVATION, GROWTH AND COMMUNITY IMPACT.
THE YEARS OF WORK THAT HAVE BEEN PUT INTO PLANNING AND CONCEPTUALIZING TODAY IS TRULY PAYING OFF.
THE CONVENTION CENTER IS ACTIVELY MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH TECHNICAL RIGOR, TRANSPARENCY, DISCIPLINE AND MOMENTUM THAT WE CAN ALL BE VERY PROUD OF.
THIS TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT TO REPLACE THE CURRENT AGING STRUCTURE WILL BE AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR DALLAS DRIVING JOBS, HOUSING AND GROWTH. FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE CEDARS TO THE SOUTH, TO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR AND BEYOND.
AS STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC'S TRUST AND MONEY, WE TAKE THIS ROLE SERIOUSLY.
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE BEEN TRANSPARENT.
WE HAVE BEEN INCLUSIVE, WORKING WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS, HOSTING HUNDREDS OF PUBLIC MEETINGS, COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS AND REGULAR BRIEFINGS TO YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO WE ENSURE THAT EVERYONE TRULY KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
I WANT TO THANK YOU TO THE CITY STATE. THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
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PUSHING FOR THE BEST OUTCOMES. AND THANK YOU FOR STANDING BEHIND US TO BRING THIS VISION ALIVE.WE HAVE WORKED ACROSS THIS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY, INCLUDING ALL OF OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS, TO ENSURE THAT OUR COLLABORATION IS REAL. WE HAVE WORKED COLLECTIVELY WITH ALL OF THE CONSULTANTS ASSIGNED TO THIS PROJECT TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT, AND WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF OUR PARTNERS AT THE STATE LEVEL WHO HAVE ENABLED THE FINANCING ZONE THAT MAKES THIS MASTER PLAN COME TO FRUITION.
AND, OF COURSE, TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, TO THE NEIGHBORS, TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS, AND TO OUR EVERYDAY DALLAS SITES. THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR VOTES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN ALL OF THE PLANNING SESSIONS AND ENSURING THAT YOUR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD AS WE SHAPE THIS PROJECT AND HOW WE MOVE IT FORWARD FOR ALL OF DALLAS. AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO NOW TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES, ROSA FLEMING. ROSA WILL ALSO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT TEAM, JOINING HER TODAY TO WALK US THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
WE ARE BRIEFING TODAY ON ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.
BUT WE'RE BRIEFING TODAY ABOUT THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN.
WE'RE FOCUSING ON COMPONENT ONE, WHICH IS THE EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
AND WE BROUGHT WITH US OUR INCREDIBLE TEAM FROM INSPIRE DALLAS, WE HAVE CARLOS AGUILAR, WHO IS THE CEO OF INSPIRE DALLAS, JACK MATTHEWS, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF INSPIRE DALLAS.
WE HAVE AMPLIFIED DALLAS, WHO IS OUR ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING AND DESIGN TEAM, REPRESENTED BY MICHAEL LOCKWOOD, SENIOR PRINCIPAL AT POPULOUS, AND RON STOLARSKY, WHO IS A PRINCIPAL AT PERKINS AND WILL BE JOINING US LATER IN THE BRIEFING WILL BE NOLAN, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF NOSSA.
AND HILLTOP SECURITIES WILL BE REPRESENTED BY STEPHEN JOHNSON, WHO IS THE MANAGING DIRECTOR.
JACK IRELAND, WHO IS OUR CFO, WILL ALSO JOIN US IN THE PRESENTATION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TODAY.
YOU'LL HEAR DIRECTLY FROM OUR DESIGN TEAM AS WE REVIEW SCHEMATICS AND THEIR IMPACTS ON PROGRAMING, TRANSPORTATION AND CONNECTIONS, WHICH HAS BEEN AND PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN HOW WE DELIVER THIS PROJECT.
NEXT SLIDE. SO OVER THE LAST FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, WE HAVE BRIEFED YOU ABOUT THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS TRANSFORMATIONAL, ONCE IN A GENERATION ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
THE MEDIA AND STAKEHOLDERS OFTEN REFER TO IT AS A MASSIVE PROJECT.
AND SO WE WANTED TO REMIND YOU WITH THIS SLIDE THAT WE INTENTIONALLY DIVIDED THIS SLIDE INTO SEVEN COMPONENTS, AND WE DID THAT IN ORDER TO ALLOW US TO BETTER ENGAGE SMALL AND LOCAL BUSINESSES AND TO LEAN INTO THE INCREDIBLE ARRAY OF TALENT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY AND AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT ARE ABLE TO DELIVER THIS PROJECT.
BUT AS I SAID, OUR FOCUS HERE TODAY IS ON THE BOLDED COMPONENT.
IT'S THE CENTRAL CORE OF THE PROJECT, THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION.
NEXT SLIDE. WE'LL TAKE YOU A LITTLE BIT BACK IN TIME.
IN 2021. WE WORKED WITH 14 CITY DEPARTMENTS. CITY LEADERSHIP, STAKEHOLDERS, THE COMMUNITY AND DEDICATED PARTNERS LIKE VISIT DALLAS DOWNTOWN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND DI TO BEGIN AND ENGAGE MASTER PLANNING WITH WSP.
AND THE FIRST STEP OF THAT WAS ESTABLISHING A PROJECT, VISION AND GOALS, ALL DESIGNED TO MOVE DALLAS NOT JUST A SILOED BUILDING AND NOT JUST ONE SINGLE COMPONENT OF A PROJECT, BUT TO MOVE ALL OF DALLAS FORWARD.
AND SO IN THAT WE EMBEDDED THE CONCEPTS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WORKFORCE PROGRAMING, SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AN ABILITY TO GROW. AS I SAID EARLIER, LOCAL BUSINESS WITH CAPACITY BUILDING AND MENTORSHIP TO ALIGN WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE
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SUPPORTED WITH THE LONG TERM GOAL OF ELEVATING DALLAS AS A GLOBALLY COMPETITIVE CITY AND CONTINUING THE TRAJECTORY THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED.NEXT SLIDE. YOU HEARD SOME OF THE SPEAKERS TODAY TALK ABOUT OUR COMPETITIVENESS.
WE'RE A BUSINESS CITY. AND SO WE COMPETE AGAINST AND ALONGSIDE OTHER MAJOR CITIES.
AND WE'VE LISTED JUST A FEW HERE CHICAGO LAS VEGAS HOUSTON.
BUT WE COMPETE AGAINST MAJOR CONVENTION CENTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AND IN TERMS OF TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY, WE COMPETE GLOBALLY AS WELL.
WE LOOK AT THAT AS WE LOOK AT TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY.
WE'RE LOOKING AT AVIATION. WE'RE A CITY THAT HAS GREAT AIRLIFT.
WE LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION. HOW CAN WE MAKE BETTER ACCESS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME HERE AND VISIT DALLAS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY HERE, AND SPECIFICALLY THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WORK IN THE TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY SPACE.
WE RANK TODAY AS NUMBER SIX ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT YET BROKEN GROUND ON THE PROJECT, BUT OUR GOAL HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE, TO REMAIN IN THE TOP FIVE US CITIES IN TERMS OF CONVENTIONS.
AND SO I'LL REMIND YOU WHY WE DID THIS PROJECT.
SO WHEN WE ENGAGED SPECTRA, NOW OAKVIEW GROUP, THE FIRST THING THAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO WAS TO GIVE US AN INVENTORY OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND TO LOOK AT OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
IN TODAY'S ESCALATED MARKET, THAT'S ANYWHERE BETWEEN 700 MILLION OR MORE IN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE TO A CURRENT CENTER, WHICH WAS BUILT IN FIVE PHASES OVER SEVERAL DECADES.
WE LOOKED AT THE LACK OF WALKABILITY IN THE RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES AND RESTAURANT OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THE CENTER, AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT IN A VACUUM. WE USED DATA AND WE WENT AND LOOKED AT ACTUAL CENTERS WITH WHICH WE COMPETE.
AND SO WE DID TEN CITIES IN SEVEN DAYS, AND WE LOOKED AT THEIR CONVENTION CENTERS, THEIR TRANSPORTATION, HOW THEY FUNDED THEIR INVESTMENTS INTO THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE AND INTO THEIR CENTERS, AND CAME BACK WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS A LOT LEFT TO DO HERE IN DALLAS.
AND SO OUR PLAN BEGAN TO ENVELOP TRANSPORTATION, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, EQUITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I TALKED ABOUT ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WITH THE GOAL OF CONNECTIVITY AND RECONNECTING OURSELVES TO ALL PARTS OF THE CITY, BUT MOST SPECIFICALLY TO THE PART THAT WE HAD BLOCKED JUST BY THE SHEER MAGNITUDE OF THE BUILDING THAT BLOCKED TWO MAJOR STREETS.
AND SO WE WERE ABLE NOW TO ENVISION A CONVENTION CENTER THAT WILL RECONNECT US ACROSS I-30 INTO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, ALLOWING FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO NOT FORGETTING THE DEVELOPMENT IN WHICH THE CITY HAS ALREADY INVESTED IN ALL OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
NEXT SLIDE. SO IF YOU RECALL TO ALIGN WITH THAT PROJECT VISION AND THE GOALS WE SET FOR THE PROJECT, WE ESTABLISHED A STUDY AREA THAT EXTENDED FROM THE EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON UNION STATION AND THE ABUTTING HOTELS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND IT TO FARMERS MARKET AND EXTENDED INTO THE CEDARS, WHICH IS THAT BRIDGE INTO SOUTH AND SOUTHERN DALLAS.
AND SO WE TOOK THE PILLARS THAT THAT WE NOW HAVE THAT THAT OUR CITY MANAGER HAS MADE THE NEW PILLARS FOR THE CITY, AND WE PRIORITIZE CONNECTIONS. WE DIDN'T JUST PRIORITIZE PHYSICAL CONNECTION, BUT THOSE THAT CONNECTED COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED FROM US TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE NORTH.
WE LOOKED AT COLLABORATION, HOW WE BRING TOGETHER ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, THE COMMUNITY, AND SERVING INTENTLY TO LOOK AT HOW WE ENGAGE WITH OUR RESIDENTS.
AND I THINK YOU HEARD SOME OF THE SPEAKERS TODAY TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND WE HAVE A SLIDE WHERE WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW MANY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAD.
WE TRIED TO COMMUNICATE IN A WAY THAT WAS TRANSPARENT AND INCLUSIVE, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT TRUST IS EARNED, AND THAT THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT BUILDING AN ECOSYSTEM THAT SERVES ALL OF DALLAS.
NEXT SLIDE. IN YOUR APPENDIX, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LITANY OF DATES.
FIRST OF WHICH WAS THE TRUST YOU PLACED IN US AND IN THIS PROJECT.
ON FEBRUARY 9TH OF 2022, WHEN YOU AUTHORIZE THE ADOPTION OF WHAT WAS THEN CALLED THREE SEA WEST OF LAMAR AS THE ALTERNATIVE CONCEPT FOR THIS PROJECT, AND YOU ASKED US TO MOVE FORWARD TO FUND IT AND TO BUILD IT.
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LAST ON THIS LIST IS WHEN WE PURCHASED THE LAST PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO FINISH THAT CONSTRUCTION, GIVEN SOME OF THE ORIENTATIONS THAT WE'LL DISCUSS LATER IN THIS PRESENTATION.THAT CAME ABOUT AFTER WE SELECTED OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM.
INSPIRED DALLAS. ON THIS NEXT SLIDE IS THE DATE THAT I'M REFERRING TO.
MARCH 6TH, 2024. IT'S THE DATE THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE CENTER'S REORIENTATION IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE SOME OF THE DISRUPTIONS THAT WERE OCCURRING AS A RESULT OF SOME OF OUR STAKEHOLDER INTERACTION.
AND IF WE COULD, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CARLOS SO HE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
YEAH. THANK YOU. AS YOU ALL CAN SEE, THIS IS A PRETTY CONGESTED CITY CENTER AND IT HAS MANY INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER PLAYERS. OH NEXT SLIDE SORRY. YEAH.
THIS IS THE SLIDE I WAS REFERRING TO AND WHY IT IS THAT WE HAD TO REORIENT THE BUILDING AND WHY WE CAME TO YOU ON MARCH 6TH OF LAST YEAR TO DISCUSS THAT THAT NEED. AND IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE INTERACTION WITH OTHERS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S MAJOR ACTIVITY. AS YOU KNOW, THE EXPANSION OF I-30 IS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME AS THIS, THE EXECUTION OF THIS PROJECT? THAT MEANS THAT TEX DOT WILL NEED LAY DOWN AREA.
ANOTHER NEEDS FOR WHAT IS CALLED LOT E, AND WE HAD TO ACCOMMODATE THAT INTO OUR PLAN.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE HAD TO DO THIS REORIENTATION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS ONE SHOWS YOU THE ACTUAL AREAS THAT WILL BE OCCUPIED BY TEX DOT DURING A PERIOD. AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL ORIENTATION THAT YOU ALL HAD CONSIDERED AND WHY WE HAD TO DO THIS NEW ALIGNMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE CONFLICTS CONFLICT AREAS, AS YOU SEE, OVERLAPS WITH WORK DONE BY OTHERS AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THAT'S A VERY CRITICAL POINT AS TO WHY WE HAD TO DO THAT.
REORIENTATION. THE MAIN GOALS ARE TO REDUCE IMPACTS ON TEX UPRR KEEP THEM TO A MINIMUM, PROTECT THE FREIGHT AND TRANSIT RAIL INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. ELIMINATE SCHEDULED DELAYS BECAUSE OF THOSE INTERACTIONS.
MAINTAIN AS MUCH CONTROL OF THE SITE AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION EFFORT, AND ALSO TO SEPARATE OPERATIONS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF LAMAR, WHICH WILL BE CONTINUING OPERATIONS FOR THE CENTER AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE WESTERN SIDE OF THAT STREET. ROSA. THANK YOU.
CARLOS. SO THIS SLIDE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT THE IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT IS IS REAL.
THEY SAT WITH US SIDE BY SIDE, INCLUDING BRINGING US SOME OF THEIR CLIENTS TO DISCUSS THE ORIENTATION AND THE PROGRAMING OF THE CONVENTION CENTER SO THAT WE GET IT RIGHT, GIVEN THE MARKET IN WHICH WE COMPETE.
AND SO IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE BY GARY SANCHEZ FROM VISIT DALLAS THAT WE BOOKED PRE-BOOKED 60 FOR MAJOR CONVENTIONS FROM 2029 ONWARDS. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE PAGE IT'S IN THE BILLIONS THAT WE WILL THAT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT HAS RISEN TO GIVEN JUST THOSE 64 AND THE MOMENTUM CONTINUES TO GROW WITH 109 NEW OPPORTUNITIES THAT AWAIT US AS WE UNVEIL TODAY WHAT THE SCHEMATICS WILL LOOK LIKE AND MOVE INTO DESIGN. NEXT SLIDE. I'M NOT GOING TO READ YOU THIS SLIDE, BUT I WANT TO SAY AGAIN THAT ALL ARE JOINTLY ENTWINED TO FEED AND TO GROW THE DALLAS ECONOMY. AND SO THERE'S KEY WORDS ON THIS PAGE.
CONNECTIONS OPEN SPACE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT. ACCESS WELCOMING AND OPEN AN ORIENTATION.
OTHER BUILDINGS THAT SIT ON THE DISTRICT SITE.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO CARLOS AGUILAR TO TALK ABOUT OUR PLAN STAKEHOLDER DEVELOPMENTS.
AND NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THIS REALLY SHOWS YOU THE THAT THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER IS REALLY AN ANCHOR FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, ENHANCING THE VIABILITY OF DEVELOPMENT IN ALL CARDINAL DIRECTIONS.
IT MAINTAINS THAT CONNECTIVITY TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS CRITICAL AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
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IT OPENS UP THAT AREA BETWEEN THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE ARENA.DO YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THAT PICTURE, WHICH WILL BE MIXED DEVELOPMENT AND NEW TAX BASE FOR THE CITY? IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO THE WEST, TO THE EAST, AND OF COURSE TO THE, THE NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO THAT'S THE, THE GOAL OF THE CENTER TO BE THE ANCHOR FOR DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE CONSIDERING THINGS LIKE DISTRICT WIDE SOLUTIONS LIKE DISTRICT ENERGY, HEATING AND COOLING, THINGS THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE. AND THAT COULD BE VERY USEFUL FOR DALLAS FROM A SUSTAINABILITY PERSPECTIVE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. BUT WE'RE GOING NOW FROM WORDS TO ACTIONS.
AND WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE TEAM, THE TEAM THAT'S BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST 6 OR 7 MONTHS.
THIS IS HUNDREDS OF PROFESSIONALS IN EVERY DISCIPLINE RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT FROM THE PLANNING ITSELF TO THE INSURANCE, THE OWNERSHIP COMPONENT.
THESE ARE ALL WORLD CLASS PLAYERS BEST IN THEIR DISCIPLINES AND ALSO WITH VERY SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY AND PARTICIPATION BY LOCAL FIRMS. MANY SMALL LOCAL FIRMS ARE ALREADY PARTICIPATING IN THIS EFFORT, AND HAVE TO SAY THE QUALITY OF WORK PREPARED AND DELIVERED HAS BEEN FIRST CLASS. AS AN EXAMPLE OF COLLABORATION TOMORROW WE'LL HAVE THE UNDERWRITERS FOR THE INSURANCE PROGRAM VISITING THE SITE, AND WE OURSELVES INSPIRED DALLAS AND TRINITY ALLIANCE WILL BE THEIR HOSTS.
ROSA. SO WE STARTED THIS PROCESS WHERE IT SHOULD.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, WE STARTED IT IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO BEFORE WE DREW A SINGLE LINE ON A MAP, WE LISTENED.
WE PROVIDED DATA, WE TOOK COPIOUS NOTES FROM RESIDENTS, FROM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, FROM BUSINESS OWNERS, FROM CITY COUNCIL AND CITY LEADERSHIP. AND WE LOOKED AT THIS AS A PROJECT WHERE EVERYONE WOULD BE IMPACTED.
AND AS YOU SEE ON THE PAGE WE CONDUCTED IN THE FIRST PORTION OF THIS, ABOUT 350 STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS WE DID AND HAVE DONE SINCE IMPLEMENTATION, ANOTHER 100 OR MORE. AND WE'VE BEEN SUPER FOCUSED ON HOW WE SHOW OUR INFORMATION AND OUR DATA TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE HAD INTERACTIVE SESSIONS THAT INCLUDED VIRTUAL.
WE HAVE A WEBSITE THAT ALLOWS FOR FEEDBACK AND CONTINUOUS UPDATES.
AND WE'VE ALSO OFFERED AND PROVIDED UPDATES IN VENUES WITHIN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
AND SO WE HAVE LISTENED, WE HAVE HEARD, AND WE'VE ACTED ON CITY LEADERSHIP AND CITY COUNCIL GUIDANCE TO BUILD BROADER COALITIONS, TO ENGAGE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, TO ENGAGE WITH OUR ADVOCATES, AND TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROJECT LEADS TO THE JOB CREATION AND LOCAL AND SMALL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES AND BROADER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE PROMISED. NEXT SLIDE. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JACK MATTHEWS TO TALK ABOUT OUR CONCEPTS.
SO NOW WE REALLY GET TO THE GOOD STUFF. THE THAT WAS A JOKE GUYS.
WE HAVE A COUPLE SMILES. THIS BASICALLY SHOWS 16 DIFFERENT WAYS WE LOOKED WHERE TO PUT THE CONVENTION CENTER, HOW TO PUT THE CONVENTION CENTER. IN ADDITION TO THESE, THERE'S PROBABLY 40 OR 50 OTHERS THAT WERE LOOKED AT AND DISCARDED QUICKLY.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE OVER SIX TIMES WE LOOKED AT GOING ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE UP RAIL AND THEY WERE AT THE END DISCARDED. WE EVEN LOOKED AT IT AGAIN. JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WE HAD LOOKED AT AND THOUGHT OF WAS,
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WAS CORRECT. SO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO BASICALLY, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THESE EVALUATIONS, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE WE DECIDED WE NEED TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 725,000FT OF ONE FLOOR EXHIBITION SPACE. AND YOU SAY, OKAY, HOW DO HOW DO YOU GET THERE? HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT QUESTION? AND THE THE ANSWER TO THAT IS IT'S IT'S ALL THESE MEETINGS THAT ROSA'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT, ALL THE VISIT DALLAS DISCUSSIONS, THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THREE 60 AND ON AND ON WITH LISTENING TO THE CUSTOMERS.WHAT WHAT CAN FIT THE SIZE OF THE BALLROOM BECAME, YOU KNOW, A BIG QUESTION ON DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DESIGNS. THE SO WE WHEN WE WENT THROUGH WE HAD SOME THINGS THAT THAT WAS AN ABSOLUTE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF 725. AND WE'VE ENDED UP, WE THINK, IN THE 750,000 RANGE.
BUT ALSO, DOES THAT DESIGN STILL CONNECT TO THE OMNI? IF NOT, THAT'S A THAT'S A NEGATIVE. DO ANY ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING, DOES IT AFFECT YOUR FUNDING? DOES IT FIX UP THEIR CONFLICTS? BUT THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN A WHOLE SAYING, HEY, THAT'S A NICE BUILDING. LOOKS GREAT. HOW DOES IT CONNECT TO DOWNTOWN? HOW DOES IT CONNECT TO THE NEW SPACE THE CITY ENDS UP WITH? HOW DOES IT CONNECT TO SOUTH DALLAS? WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE WAYS? BECAUSE IF WE DO THIS GREAT BUILDING, WE DON'T CONNECT TO ANY OF THESE PLACES. PEOPLE DON'T ENJOY COMING BECAUSE REALLY, PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE FOR THE EXPERIENCE OF THE CITY, NOT THE EXPERIENCE OF THE ACTUAL CONVENTION CENTER.
EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE COME AFTER ME THAT TELL YOU IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BUILDING. I'M JOKING AGAIN, GUYS. SORRY. IT'S IN MY NATURE. THE SO THAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS GETS US TO HERE TODAY AND WE THINK WE'VE WE'VE DONE IT RIGHT. PUT THE THINGS TOGETHER PROPERLY CHECKED AND RECHECKED, DIFFERENT YOU KNOW, THINGS PEOPLE PUSH AT US. HEY, THIS IS A BETTER IDEA.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT IDEA. AND WE TAKE THEM ALL IN, WE RUN THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND NUMBER 15 POPS OUT AS AS NOT THE WINNER, BUT THE STRONG WINNER BY A LONG WAY.
SO ROSA, UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO HIT ON SOMETHING ELSE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.
THANK YOU. ROSA. GOOD MORNING. THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER WILL BE BIGGER, BETTER AND MORE CONNECTED.
IN THIS SLIDE, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT NEW SELLABLE SPACE AND NEW GROSS AREA FOR CONVENTION CENTERS.
AND IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE OF THE TWO. WHEN MEETING PLANNERS CHOOSE A DESTINATION, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE SELLABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE. SO THAT'S EXHIBIT HALL, MEETING ROOM AND BALLROOM SPACE. ALL THE OTHER GROSS AREA THAT SUPPORTS THAT PRE-FUNCTION SPACE LOBBIES.
IT'S BIGGER BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IT'S BETTER AND IT'S MORE CONNECTED.
SO IN THIS DIAGRAM YOU'LL SEE THE EXISTING SQUARE FOOTAGE SHOWN THERE IN GRAY ON THE LEFT.
SO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU'LL SEE A DIAGRAM.
ON THE ON THE GROUND FLOOR IS A LOGISTICS CENTER MOBILITY HUB WHERE PEOPLE WILL ARRIVE.
SO THAT'S A WALKABLE CONNECTION AND CONNECTIONS FROM HOTELS ACROSS THE STREETS.
THERE IS A MOBILITY HUB WHERE PEOPLE CAN ARRIVE FROM A TRANSPORTATION HUB UBERS, LIFTS, DROP OFFS, BUSSES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THEY'LL BE DROPPED OFF UNDER THE EXHIBIT HALL AND BE ABLE TO WALK DIRECTLY INTO THE GREAT HALL. SO THERE'S A REALLY NICE, SUCCINCT ARRIVAL PROCESS.
AND THEN ABOVE THAT, SHOWN IN YELLOW, IS THE NEW EXHIBITION HALL AS AS JACK OUTLINED.
SO WE'VE GROWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S A MUCH, MUCH BETTER HALL.
THE NEW EXHIBIT HALL IS CONTIGUOUS ON ONE LEVEL, AND IT'S MORE OF A STRAIGHT, NORMAL SHAPE, WHICH IS MUCH BETTER FOR MEETING PLANNERS. ABOVE THAT, WE HAVE OUR MEETING ROOM PROGRAM, WHICH IS MORE THAN TWICE WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
SO IMAGINE RUNNING BACK AND FORTH IN A CONVENTION, GOING FROM MEETING ROOM TO MEETING ROOM. WE'VE CONDENSED THAT TO LESS THAN TWO CITY BLOCKS. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONNECTIVITY, WE'RE BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER IN THE BUILDING SO IT'S EASIER TO TALK,
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EASIER TO MEET PEOPLE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN AROUND AND GO FROM MEETING TO MEETING.IT'S A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT PROGRAM. EVEN THOUGH WE'VE INCREASED THE SELLABLE AREA MORE THAN DOUBLE.
AT THE TOP OF THE DIAGRAM ON THE RIGHT, WE HAVE OUR CROWN JEWEL.
IT'S A ROOFTOP BALLROOM. IT'S 105,000FT². IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST IN THE INDUSTRY.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE DRAMATIC VIEWS, WHICH WE'LL SHOW YOU IN A MINUTE. BUT BIGGER AND BETTER HAPPENS TOGETHER FOR BALLROOMS. THE BIGGER SIZE ALLOWS YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY. SO THAT ROOM CAN BE BROKEN DOWN INTO SMALLER SPACES.
NEXT SLIDE. SO NOT ONLY ARE WE PLANNING FOR DAY TODAY, WE'RE ALSO PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.
SO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE DIAGRAM, YOU SEE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING AND ENGINEERING THE BUILDING TO HOLD ANOTHER ROOFTOP BALLROOM OF 65,000FT² AND ADDITIONAL MEETING ROOMS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH. THE YELLOW SHAPE IS AN EXTENDED EXHIBIT HALL, WHICH ADDS ANOTHER 135,000FT² TO THAT CONTIGUOUS ONE LEVEL AREA, WITH ADDITIONAL MEETING ROOMS ON TOP OF THAT NEXT SLIDE.
AND ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WOULD BE THE RAILROAD.
AND THIS ALLOWS YOU TO SEE HOW THE BUILDING IS STACKED VERTICALLY. SO WHAT WE'VE TAKEN IS WE'VE TAKEN A BUILDING TODAY THAT HAS SPREAD OVER 6 OR 7 CITY BLOCKS, AND WE'VE CONDENSED IT DOWN AS MUCH AS WE CAN SO PEOPLE CAN CONNECT TOGETHER WITHIN THE BUILDING.
YOU'LL SEE THE GREAT HALL ARRIVAL OFF OF LAMAR.
THERE'S A GRAND PLAZA, WHICH RON WILL TALK MORE ABOUT IN DETAIL.
FROM THAT GREAT HALL, YOU CAN SEE AND CONNECT WITH EVERY SELLABLE SPACE SO YOU CAN CONNECT TO THE EXHIBIT HALL, THE MEETING ROOMS, THE BALLROOM. IT'S ALL RIGHT THERE AT THE FRONT DOOR, WHICH IS SUPER CONVENIENT AND A MUCH, MUCH BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR CONVENTION GOERS.
NEXT SLIDE. SO ONCE WE STEP IN THE FRONT DOOR, WE'RE NOW ON THE NORTH SIDE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE JUST COME ACROSS THE CONNECTED BRIDGE THAT CONNECTS TO THE OMNI.
WE WALK INTO THE GREAT HALL ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE HOW GUESTS WOULD ENTER FROM THE PLAZA AND FROM THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT TO THE LEFT. AND NOW YOU CAN SEE THE ORIENTATION OF THE GREAT HALL.
SO EVERY SPACE IS ACCESSIBLE OFF THIS BUILDING.
THE GROUND PLAN, AS I DISCUSSED, IS THE PRE-FUNCTION AND LOBBY REGISTRATION AREAS.
THERE WILL BE CAFES, FOOD AND BEVERAGE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO CONVENE AND RELAX.
AND THEN THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS OF VERTICAL CIRCULATION THAT TAKE YOU UP TO THE EXHIBIT HALL LEVEL FIRST, THEN THE MEETING ROOM LEVEL, THEN THE BALLROOM LEVEL. BUT ALL OF THOSE SPACES ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE AND VIEWABLE FROM THIS AREA.
AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO A CONVENTION, YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONFUSED AND GONE DOWN CORRIDORS AND LOST YOUR WAY. THIS BUILDING WON'T ALLOW THAT. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THIS SPACE AND RECONNECT AND UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE AT ALL TIMES. NEXT SLIDE.
SO NOW WE'VE FLIPPED AROUND TO THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE SPACE. WE'RE AT THE EXHIBIT HALL PRE-FUNCTION AREA. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S AMPLE SPACE FOR FOR FURNITURE AND PEOPLE TO RELAX AND CONNECT. SO YOU CAN GO INSIDE OF THOSE EXHIBITION AND MEETING ROOMS AND THEN STEP OUT AND REALLY CONNECT WITH THOSE PEOPLE AND THOSE CONVENTION ATTENDEES THAT YOU CAME TO MEET IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU CAN SEE HOW THE GREAT HALL ADAPTS.
THERE'S A TON OF NATURAL LIGHT. IT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL SPACE. PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND TIME IN HERE. AND, AND MEETING PLANNERS CAN ADAPT AND PROGRAM THE SPACE.
LOTS OF FLEXIBILITY WITH FLOOR LOADING POWER TECHNOLOGY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND RIGGING IN THE CEILING TO FOR THEM TO PROGRAM THE SPACE AND REALLY MAKE IT THEIR OWN. NEXT SLIDE. THE LAST SLIDE I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO IS THE BALLROOM PRE FUNCTION.
SO NOW WE'VE GONE UP TO THAT ROOFTOP BALLROOM LEVEL. THE BALLROOM IS OFF TO OUR LEFT.
SO WHEN WE DESIGN CONVENTION CENTERS, WE REALLY WANT ATTENDEES TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE, WHY THEY CAME TO DALLAS HAVE THOSE DRAMATIC VIEWS AND CONNECT TO A SWEEPING VISTA OF NOT ONLY DOWNTOWN, BUT SOUTH DALLAS, SOUTHERN DALLAS, AND CEDARS.
THIS BALLROOM, PRE-FUNCTION, PROVIDES VIEWS ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE DESTINATION.
IT'S A REALLY DRAMATIC SPACE, SO NOT ONLY DOES IT WORK FUNCTIONALLY TAKES CARE OF ALL THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BOOKED, BUT IT ALSO MAKES THOSE REALLY STRONG CONNECTIONS THAT RON'S GOING TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT. OKAY, GREAT.
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. YEAH. THIS IS A GREAT VIEW.
IT REALLY IS ONE OF OUR BEST ASSETS. I THINK WE'D ALL AGREE.
OUR SKYLINE. AND THIS SHOWS ONE EXAMPLE OF THE WAYS THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER IS GOING TO REALLY PROVIDE A NEW WAY OF SEEING, A NEW WAY OF EXPERIENCING A NEW WAY OF REMEMBERING OUR CITY, AND NOT JUST FOR VISITORS, BUT FOR RESIDENTS AS WELL.
SO I'M GOING TO DO IS GO OUTSIDE AND TAKE YOU A TOUR AROUND THE EXTERIOR AND SHOW YOU THE WAYS THAT WE'VE REALLY CAREFULLY CHOREOGRAPHED ALL THESE MOMENTS TO REALLY GROW THE COMMUNITY, STITCH THIS PART OF DALLAS INTO THE FABRIC, AND REALLY ENSURE THAT THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY IS STRENGTHENED FROM OUTSIDE TO INSIDE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'RE ON LAMAR STREET LOOKING SOUTH.
AND FOR US THIS IS OUR SIGNATURE PUBLIC PLAZA THAT MICHAEL WAS ALLUDING TO.
IN THE CURRENT CONVENTION CENTER, THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE UNMISTAKABLE.
IT'S ALONG LONG, LAMAR. IT'S REINFORCED BY THAT MOVEMENT.
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BUT IT DOESN'T WANT TO BE IMPOSING, IT WANTS TO BE INVITING. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A THEME YOU HEAR ABOUT TO CREATE CONNECTIONS. WE WANT AN ARCHITECTURE THAT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S OVERWHELMING THE PUBLIC. IT WANTS TO BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WILL GATHER, AND THE MORE YOU CAN MOVE INTO THIS SPACE, YOU SEE THE OUTSTRETCHED ARMS, RIGHT? IT'S THIS DYNAMIC GESTURE THAT DALLAS DESERVES.IT'S A POINT OF ORIENTATION. IT WILL SORT OF SIGNAL WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE TOP ALL ALONG, ENSURING THAT THE CONNECTOR FROM NORTH TO SOUTH, ALL OF LAMAR IS ACTIVATED.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WE GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SITE.
SO IN THE FUTURE THERE WILL BE A PROGRAMABLE OUTDOOR GREEN SPACE HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE WAY THIS SORT OF WELCOMES THE FOOT TRAFFIC THAT MOVES SOUTH TO NORTH AND VICE VERSA. AND THIS DELIVERS YOU RIGHT OVER TO THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHERE OUR SORT OF ACTIVE FRONTAGE OF THE BUILDING WILL OCCUR.
WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THIS IS IT'S INTUITIVE, IT'S PLEASANT.
WE'RE AT THE NORTH, LOOKING SOUTH AGAIN, ABOUT 150FT ABOVE LAMAR STREET.
IT GIVES A LOT OF CHOICE FOR CONVENTION GOERS, BUT IT ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE GROUND PLANE, IT'S A VIBRANT MIX OF PEDESTRIANS, RETAIL, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, AND IT REALLY CELEBRATES PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ON THAT LEVEL AS WELL.
THE MIDDLE LEVEL WHERE YOU SEE THAT GLASS BAR THAT'S ESSENTIALLY AN ALL WEATHER MEETING ROOM, PRE-FUNCTION ZONE THAT WILL ALLOW FOR SWEEPING PANORAMIC VIEWS OF DOWNTOWN ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE FUTURE DISTRICT, DOWN INTO THE CEDARS, SOUTH AND SOUTHERN DALLAS.
AND OF COURSE, YOU ARRIVE TO THE TOP HERE, THE BALLROOM. THIS IS AGAIN THE CROWN JEWEL.
IT'S ALSO THE OUTDOOR ROOF TERRACE AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN REFERRING TO AS THE DALLAS WORLD STAGE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO HERE WE ARE FROM THE SOUTH.
AND NOW WE'RE WAY UP ABOVE JUST SOUTH OF I-30.
AND WE SHOW THIS BECAUSE IT'S THE ENTIRE SITE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
THEN WE GO INTO LOT E AND I'LL TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A COUPLE SLIDES.
AND THEN THERE'S THE THE PRIMARY CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT WE SHOW THIS AS A NIGHTTIME VIEW.
YOU KNOW, WE WANT EYES ON THE STREET. YOU WANT THE ILLUMINATION THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND YOU WANT THAT SENSE OF SAFETY FOR EVERYONE AROUND THE EDGES. AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE. SO LAMAR AND THEN JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS GRIFFIN, WHERE, OF COURSE, AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER ARTERY THAT'S HELPING TO REALLY ENLIVEN AND STITCH ALL OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AND ONE MORE STEP OUT. SO WE'RE BACK FURTHER.
NOW WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
NOW THERE ARE SOME FAMILIAR LANDMARKS. YOU CAN SEE REUNION TOWER, THE BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA, AND OF COURSE, THE ARENA. BUT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS THE WAY THIS IS AT THE CENTER.
NEXT SLIDE. THIS ONE GIVES US A BIT MORE ANNOTATION.
SO IT GIVES CLARITY ABOUT THE EXISTING LANDMARKS.
SO ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU CAN SEE WE GO FROM TOP TO BOTTOM WITH THE BANK OF AMERICA PLAZA.
WE'VE GOT THE CEMETERY THERE WHICH IS A SACRED PIECE OVER ON THAT NORTH SIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT MEMORIAL ARENA, OF COURSE, CITY HALL, WHERE WE ARE TODAY, AND THEN T BALL.
NOW GOING TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE IMAGE, WHAT YOU SEE ARE MOST OF THE NEW COMPONENTS.
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ORGANIZED FOR THE GROWTH TO HAPPEN IN VERY SMART, PRODUCTIVE WAYS AND REALLY OPENS THE THE DOORS TO FUTURE GROWTH.NEXT SLIDE. NOW THIS IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT GREAT DISTRICT OF DALLAS.
AND THESE DISTRICTS NEED PARKING. SO WE'VE MADE IT CLEAR THAT PARKING STRATEGIES ARE IMPORTANT.
SO WE HAVE DAY ONE PARKING ON THE LEFT SIDE IN BLUE.
IT SHOWS OUR COUNT JUST OVER 2000. ON THE RIGHT SIDE WE HIGHLIGHT THE EXPANSION POSSIBILITIES.
THAT SORT OF DOUBLES UP THE DAY ONE NUMBERS TO ALSO OVER 2000.
IT'S NOT CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE AREA. IT WILL SPREAD ACTIVITY AND AGAIN, REALLY KEEP THIS A VIBRANT EXPERIENCE, EDGE TO EDGE AND DRAW MORE PEOPLE THROUGH IT.
NEXT. AND LOOKING BACK IN THE DIAGRAM THESE ARE STILL IMPORTANT.
THIS BUILDING SHOWN IN SORT OF A DARK GRAY FLOOR PLAN.
IT'S VERY IRREGULAR SITE BUT DOES A GREAT JOB OF ORGANIZING THE COMPLEX NETWORKS OF YOU HAVE VEHICULAR, YOU HAVE PEDESTRIAN, YOU HAVE RAIL TRAFFIC. ALL HAPPENING IN THIS BUILDING SETS EVERYTHING IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BE VERY SYNERGETIC, ALLOWS THEM TO BE COMPLEMENTARY AND A MORE COMPLETE SYSTEM.
NOW, WE'VE RESPECTED AND HONORED THE MASTER PLAN. EVERYTHING HERE IS HELD TO THE WEST OF LAMAR.
THEN YOU CAN START TO SEE THE WAY WE HAVE STRENGTHENED LAMAR.
AND ALL OF THESE STREETS ARE GOING TO BE CENTERED AROUND HUMAN EXPERIENCE. AND THAT'S THE KEY IS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THESE LINES AS STREETS, BUT THESE STREETS SHOULD BE FILLED WITH PEDESTRIANS. AND THAT'S THE GOAL OF THIS WHOLE INITIATIVE WITH STARTING WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER.
NOW IN THE LOWER LEFT CORNER, YOU SEE THE GRAY RECTANGLE.
THAT'S LOT II. THIS IS WHERE THE LOGISTICS YARD OCCURS.
AND BUILDINGS OF THIS SIZE REQUIRE A LOT OF LOGISTICS.
THESE AREAS CAN EASILY BE OVERLOOKED. BUT THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. NOW THE FIRST TWO PIECES, THE MARSHALING YARD AND THE LOADING DOCK, THOSE ARE FUNDAMENTAL NECESSARY HAVE TO OCCUR FOR FUNCTIONALITY. IF YOU GO TO THE PARKING SOME SPACES LIKE THIS OTHER CONVENTION CENTERS HAVE PARKING, SOME DON'T. YOURS DOES. SUSTAINABILITY. YES, THERE ARE GREEN, SUSTAINABLE BUILDINGS OUT THERE.
THIS ONE WILL BE A SHOWCASE OF SUSTAINABILITY.
AND IN FACT, WE KNOW THIS AREA IS THE SECOND WORST HEAT ISLAND IN THE US, AND WE LIKE TO THINK WE CAN SORT OF CHANGE THE WEATHER AND MAKE THIS A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO GO AND NOT JUST BE COMFORTABLE. WE WANT THEM TO STAY LONGER.
NOW, THE TWO PIECES IN THE MIDDLE, THOSE ARE THE UNIQUE PROGRAM ELEMENTS, THE VERTIPORT AND THE FIRE STATION. THOSE ARE UNIQUE TO YOUR PROJECT. NOW THEY WILL SERVICE THE CONVENTION CENTER, BUT THEY ARE REALLY INTENDED TO SERVICE THE COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING IT. SO NOW YOU'VE GOT A FULL COMPLEMENT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRED FOR THIS TO BEHAVE IN A SMART, EFFICIENT, EFFECTIVE WAY.
WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT BACK TO ROSA. THANK YOU.
SO POPULOUS AND PERKINS AND WILL WILL JOIN YOU TO UNVEIL.
AFTER THAT, WE WOULD LIKE THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO COME DOWN.
THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU PROBABLY NEED HELP BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY, LIKE TWO OF THEM.
THERE IS A REAL CHALLENGING SENSE OF ORIENTATION REQUIRED.
OKAY, SO IN THE RESTAURANT HERE. COME ON DOWN.
WELL. THE GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE THEM COME BACK AND ASK QUESTIONS WHENEVER YOU'RE DONE, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. SAY THAT AGAIN.
SO WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WALK AROUND THE MODEL.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET ANSWERED, IF YOU WANT THEM TO COME BACK HERE, OR WE CAN TRY TO GET A PORTABLE MIC THAT WE CAN PASS AROUND DOWN THERE.
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BUT WHEN THEY WANT TO GET FORMAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED ON THE RECORD, TO GO BACK TO OUR SEATS, TO BE ABLE TO ASK THEM IN THE FIVE, THREE ONE FORMAT FROM THEIR SEAT.SO I THINK WE CAN KIND OF DO A LITTLE INFORMAL DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW WHILE WE WALK AROUND, AND THEN COME BACK AND HAVE A MORE FORMAL ONE, ALL ON THE RECORD, BUT JUST. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY.
THAT WORKS FOR US. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU. SO. CONGRATULATIONS.TO YOU ALL. AND ALSO YOU CAN EXPAND IN THIS AREA IN TERMS OF.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT'S 1049. SO I'D SAY TAKE ANOTHER MINUTE OR TWO TO INFORMALLY DISCUSS, AND THEN LET'S GO BACK TO OUR, OUR SEATS TO HAVE A MORE FORMAL CONVERSATION ON THE RECORD.
SO WE'LL START MAKING OUR WAY BACK TO OUR TO THE DAIS.
YEAH. HOW YOU DOING? BROTHER. GOOD, GOOD. YEAH. HOW'S THAT? RIGHT.
GOTCHA. IT'S A GOOD ONE. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO ASK.
YOU SOME QUESTIONS. I WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION.
YEAH. THAT'S PERFECT. THAT'S GOOD. YEAH. NO, THAT'S YOU CAN'T HAVE HABITAT BELOW. SO EVERYBODY DOWN THERE, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE GOING TO BE NEXT TO STEVEN.
NO, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE HERE TODAY. OH, THANKS.
CAN YOU SLIDE ONE? YEAH. OR I'LL SCRUNCH. NO, I'LL MOVE OVER.
ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GETTING OUR PANEL REASSEMBLED? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. JACK. IRELAND'S THERE. OKAY.
GUS. OKAY. WE HAVE CITY MANAGER. DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY YOU WANT DOWN THERE, OR DO WE NEED TO WAIT FOR ANYBODY ELSE TO GET DOWN THERE? WE ARE READY. WE'RE READY. ALL RIGHT. MEMBERS.
IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S YOUR TIME. I'M READY TO START RECOGNIZING MEMBERS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS. DON'T BE SHY. CHAIRMAN WAS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
MR. MAYOR, DO YOU WANT TO GO OR YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MODEL? I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO GO IN BACK TO THE PRESENTATION.
WELL, YOU CAN, YOU CAN. TO CLARIFY, MAYOR, AND THIS IS JUST QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MODEL.
CORRECT? OKAY. OFF THE PASS. OKAY. OKAY. JEROME STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'VE HAD BEING CHAIR OF PARKS, TRAILS AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
I'VE HAD NUMEROUS PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT MIGRATORY BIRDS AND THE AND THIS COMPLEX.
SO I'M GETTING VERY SPECIFIC IN MY QUESTION ABOUT THE MODEL, BUT I GOT SOME GOOD INFORMATION DOWN HERE THAT I WOULD LIKE SHARED THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED THIS KEEPING MIGRATORY BIRDS IN MIND. AND SO IF WE COULD GET JUST SOME MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THAT SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR THAT.
THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING. I MEAN, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE AMOUNT OF HABITAT WE CAN REINTRODUCE TO THE SITE, AS WELL AS THE HYDROLOGICAL IMPACT. WHEN IT COMES TO BIRD SAVING WE'RE ENSURING THAT WE ARE LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF GLASS THAT WHEN WE HAVE GLASS, IT'S ACTUALLY A BIRD SAFE GLASS. THE TECHNOLOGIES ARE DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED.
WE KNOW IT'S USUALLY THE 0 TO 70 FOOT ELEVATION WHERE THE BIRDS ARE FLYING.
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AND SO WE'RE WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THERE'S DEFINITELY AN ECOLOGIST THAT'S ON BOARD OF THE TEAM AND TALKING WITH THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, THE ARBORETUM AND OTHER GROUPS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE THE COMBINATION OF THE WAY THE MATERIALS AND THE ARCHITECTURE ITSELF WORK TOGETHER. SO IT'S AN ONGOING, YOU KNOW, STUDY, AND I BELIEVE YOU'VE PLANNED SPACES ON THE ROOF FOR MIGRATORY BIRDS TO. YEAH, WE'RE EVALUATING THAT AS WELL.I MEAN, THERE'S A THERE'S A SORT OF COMBINATION OF ENSURING THAT WE GET THE RIGHT PHOTOVOLTAICS UP THERE IN TANDEM WITH WHAT THE HABITAT NEEDS ARE IN, IN COORDINATION WITH THE STRUCTURAL LOADING AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT MODEL, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT BIOSWALE THAT'S OCCURRING ALONG THE LOT E CURVED EDGE, THAT'S LIKELY A MUCH BETTER HABITAT FOR INTRODUCING THE SPECIES THAN SOME OF THE MORE EXTENSIVE, NOT INTENSIVE PLANTING ON THE ROOFTOP. SO AGAIN, IT'S THE TYPE OF OF OF FLORA AND FAUNA YOU WANT TO BRING BACK TO THE SITE THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT. BUT THAT'S ONE OF OUR KEY PRIORITIES, ESPECIALLY AS IT CORRESPONDS TO THE CAP REQUIREMENTS.
THANK YOU. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE MODEL SPECIFICALLY BEFORE WE GO BACK TO THE BRIEFING? LET IT LET THAT CONTINUE. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK MORE BROAD QUESTIONS.
CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MODEL? YES. OR COMMENTS? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO ON THE MODEL I SEE, THERE'S SOME LIGHTING. I'M ASSUMING MOST OF THAT'S INTERIOR. WILL THERE BE EXTERIOR LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING? OR WHAT WILL THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING BE LIKE? BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED ABOUT OUR SKYLINE AND HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GEM ON ITS OWN. AND SO WITH THE VIEWS, BUT ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S INCORPORATED INTO DOWNTOWN AND OUR SKYLINE.
SO I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE LIGHTING BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG DEAL TO NOT JUST OUR RESIDENTS, BUT INTERNATIONALLY. PEOPLE HAVE VOTED THAT WE ARE THE BEST INTERNATIONAL SKYLINE, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S INCORPORATED IN PART OF THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN'T REALLY SHOW THAT ON THE MODEL.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED AS WELL. SO YES, THERE IS CONSIDERATION FOR THAT. WE ARE NOT WE HAVEN'T DEFINED EXACTLY WHERE IT ALL GOES, BUT WHAT WE WANT TO ENSURE IS THAT THIS IS INVITING FROM ALL SIDES.
SO FROM THE POSITION I'M SITTING IN WHERE I'M LOOKING ACROSS THE HIGHWAY TOWARDS THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY A SOLID WALL, BUT THAT CAN BE ACTIVATED WITH LIGHTING AS WELL.
BUT WE EXPECT THE BALLROOM ITSELF AS THAT CROWN JEWEL.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A BALANCE OF EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR LIGHTING THAT PROVIDES A BIGGER IDEA.
VERY GOOD. AND THEN MY I DO WANT TO SPEAK ON THE CONFIGURATION.
I DO LIKE THIS CONFIGURATION AS FAR AS THE MODEL GOES BECAUSE IT IS INVITING FOR ALL SIDES.
IT'S NOT JUST LIKE ONE AREA THAT'S GOING TO GET EVERYTHING.
IT'S EVERY SINGLE SIDE GETS STUFF. AND THEN THE COVERING OF THE RAILROAD, THE RAIL YARD.
SO DOING THIS AND NOT HAVING THOSE SPACES NEXT TO THE TRAINS IS GOING TO REALLY BE HELPFUL AND IMPACTFUL, BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL FORGET THAT THEY'RE THERE OR THEY DON'T EXIST.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY WITH THE CONFIGURATION ADDED ON TO THAT, THAT THIS THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PLACE.
I KNOW THINGS HAD TO CHANGE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S LIKE, I THINK WE YOU YOU MENTIONED NUMBER 15 RISING UP, JACK. AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT IT DID. YOU CAN TELL WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS, THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE AND THE BEST ONE FOR DALLAS.
ABOUT THE CONCEPT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR.
CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. HOW WILL THE DART LINE AND STATION INTERFACE WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER? YEAH. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. CITY MANAGER, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY WAS AWARE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TRANSPORTATION SECTION IN HERE THAT WE HAVEN'T COVERED YET, SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ASK THAT QUESTION NOW, OR YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GET TO THAT SLIDE AND THEN ASK YOUR QUESTION, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S ANOTHER SLIDE IN HERE ABOUT THAT. WELL, THAT'S FINE.
IT WAS PROMPTED BY A REVIEW OF THE MODEL. AND THIS STRANGE ELEVATED PLANE ON THE EAST SIDE OF LAMAR.
IS THAT IN PART TO CARRY THE DART LINE AFTER IT ENTERS OR EXITS THE CONVENTION CENTER? NO, THE DART LINE WILL REMAIN AS IT IS TODAY.
THE DART STATION. WE WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE GREAT HALL.
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WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THE DART LINE AND WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THE STATION. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY PLANNED THE BUILDING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ITS LOCATION AND LOCATE THE LOBBY TO BE ADJACENT TO IT. VERY GOOD. AND THE VERTIPORT WILL THAT BE CANTILEVERED OUT OF THE BUILDING, OR WILL THERE BE SOMETHING, SOME FACILITY LOCATED UNDERNEATH THE DECK OF THE VERTIPORT.SO WE'RE CARRYING TRUSSES FROM THE MEETING ROOM LEVEL OUT OVER THE RAILROAD LINE, HANGING STRUCTURE DOWN TO CARRY THE LOADING DOCKS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE BACK OF THE EXHIBIT HALL. AND THEN IT TRANSITIONS INTO A COLUMN SYSTEM THAT THAT BEARS THE GROUND.
SO THE VERTIPORT WILL ACTUALLY COVER THE LOADING DOCKS.
SO IT'S PROTECTED FROM WEATHER AND RAIN. AND SO YOU CAN STORE AND AND KEEP TRUCKS OUT THERE.
SO THE LOGISTICS CENTER IS INCREDIBLY EFFICIENT. IT IS A BIT OF STRUCTURAL GYMNASTICS TO GO ACROSS THE RAIL LINES, BUT I THINK WE'VE MADE USE OF OUR LONG SPAN STRUCTURE TO SPAN ACROSS THE TRACKS AND DOWN TO GRADE OVER ON LOT E.
THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I DIDN'T THINK I'D BE ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT MIGRATORY BIRDS, BUT SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
AND I THINK SOMEONE REFERENCED DALLAS AND BEING A RESTLESS CITY.
AND NOW THAT WE'VE BROUGHT UP MIGRATORY BIRDS, I'M KIND OF LIKE, I CAN.
THAT WOULD MAKE ME RESTLESS TO BE OUT WITH MY.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT, BUT YOU ALSO DISCUSSED FLORA AND FAUNA, AND I JUST I JUST WANT TO REGISTER THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT THIS SORT OF THING TO THIS FACILITY.
I DON'T I MEAN, IS THIS A DISCUSSION POINT THAT'S COME UP? I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT US LEANING SO FAR ONE WAY THAT WE'RE MAYBE CREATING AN ISSUE AROUND ALL THAT COMES WITH MIGRATORY BIRDS.
THAT'S RIGHT. AND WE'RE RIGHTSIZING ALL OF THAT RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, REALLY DETAINING THE WATER, DIRECTING IT BACK DOWN TO THE INTO THE PROPER LOCATIONS.
BUT THIS IS NOT MEANT TO ATTRACT BIRDS. IT'S REALLY A MUCH LOWER SCALE PLANTING.
THE IDEA IS THERE'S A HOLISTIC ECOLOGY, MEANING THAT THERE MIGHT BE MORE BIRDS DOWN IN THE BIOSWALE AREA WHERE YOU START TO SEE THE TREES, BUT THE UPPER LEVELS WOULD JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE INSECTS, THE POLLINATORS, TO ALLOW THAT TO OCCUR. I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S BEEN PLACES WHERE WE'VE SEEN THAT THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, BALLROOM AND KITCHEN FACILITIES COULD HAVE AN OUTDOOR GARDEN FOR USE OF, YOU KNOW, GROWING SOME OF THE ACTUAL FOOD ITSELF. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOLISTICALLY LIKE THAT.
BUT YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S NOT ANY INTENTION TO DRAW BIRDS TO THE SITE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR THEM.
I GUESS. MR. CITY MANAGER, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO THE QUESTION FIVE AND FIVE.
THREE ONE OR WHAT? OH I'M SORRY. WE GOT MR. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON.
I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SEE YOU. GO AHEAD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE.
THANK YOU AND YES, THANK YOU. AND SORRY I COULD NOT BE THERE, BUT MY QUESTION IS ON, YOU KNOW, THE GREENERY KIND OF WHERE WE'RE GOING ON THIS.
AND YOU'VE SAID THAT SOME OF THIS WOULD BE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IS THERE AN INDICATOR AND MAY HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY? BUT WHAT IS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT WILL STAY GREEN? BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE INDIVIDUALS WALKING THROUGH THE OR TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, IT'S THE BEAUTIFUL GARDENS THAT MAKE IT REALLY ATTRACTIVE.
AND SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHAT IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO THE AREA WHERE CURRENTLY HALLS A, D, E, F AND THEN THE AREA WHERE IS WHERE WE'RE BUILDING THE AREA WHERE A, B AND C ARE IS ABOUT 32 DEVELOPABLE ACRES.
AND SO THAT'S THE AREA THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE.
NOW WE PUT JUST DESIGNS THERE SO THAT IT WASN'T JUST BLANK SPACE.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE PARK SPACE BUT IT IS DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY.
AND THAT IS THAT COMPONENT SEVEN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING WHERE WE'D LIKE, YOU KNOW, FOR DEVELOPMENT A DEVELOPER CONTRACT TO COME IN AND HELP US DEVELOP THAT AREA.
SO, WELL AS YOU CONNECT BECAUSE YOU'VE TALKED.
OH GO AHEAD ROSA. WHERE YOU'VE FINISHED. NO. THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. AND WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONNECTIVITY, ARE YOU PLANNING TO KEEP THE THE GREEN SPACE, THE TREE CANOPIES ALONG THOSE ACTIVITIES, BECAUSE I THINK WE KNOW THAT MORE TREES IN AN AREA HELPS WITH EVERYTHING. ESPECIALLY IN JULY AND AUGUST. AND AND SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK, OH, YOU GOT THIS GREAT GREEN SPACE,
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BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. BUT I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE CONNECTIVITY WITH GREEN SPACE AS WELL.I THINK YOU HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION EARLIER THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE LARGEST HEAT ISLANDS IN THE UNITED STATES, JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONCRETE AND AND THE PARKING, THE PARKING LOTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THE AREA AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF PORT AND CONCRETE BUILDINGS. AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'VE TASKED THEM WITH.
WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS ARE SO THAT WE START TO VALIDATE SOME OF THESE THINGS.
FINALLY, WE ON SLIDE 31, WE HAVE HIGH SPEED RAIL.
IS THAT THE WHICH WHICH HIGH SPEED RAIL IS THAT? COUNCILWOMAN. BLACKMON. WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MODEL, BUT NOT THE.
THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW. THE BRIEFING WOULD BE NEXT.
BUT ANYWAY. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. MISS MENDELSOHN CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU. SO IN LOOKING AT THE MODEL, THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE NEARBY.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SLIDE 13, IT'S CLEAR THAT PART OF THAT IS NOT REALLY GOING TO REMAIN GREEN.
IS THAT CORRECT? IS THERE SOMEONE WHO COULD POINT OUT THE PART THAT IS GOING TO STAY GREEN, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONLY THAT MOST ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING SECTION AND THEN THE ROUNDED AREA AND THE AREA OVER BY THE ARENA LOOKS LIKE ALL OF THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
IT'S NOT REALLY GREEN, IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE BEST THE BEST WAY TO LOOK AT THE GREEN SPACE HERE IS SO WHEN WHEN THE CONVENTION CENTER GETS DESIGNED THERE'S THE WHAT DO YOU CALL YOUR FRONT DOOR. YOUR YOUR TEXAS IT'S YOUR SORRY YOUR PORCH. IT'S A MASSIVE PORCH. SO BUT BASICALLY THERE'S THE THINKING IF THEY THINK OF THE HOUSTON CONVENTION CENTER, WHERE YOU BASICALLY HAVE THE THE PARK BETWEEN THE HOTELS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
THINK OF THIS THE SAME WAY BEFORE THOSE HOTELS WERE BUILT.
SO I ACTUALLY WOULD JUST LIKE SOMEBODY TO POINT OUT THE PARTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE MODEL THAT ARE GREEN, THAT ARE REALLY FOR DEVELOPMENT. SO LET ME SEE.
PIONEER PARK, FAR FROM ME. THE FARTHEST PART FROM ME.
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOING TO STAY GREEN. IS THAT CORRECT? PIONEER PARK, WHERE THE CEMETERY IS. ABSOLUTELY HAS TO STAY GREEN WHERE THERE'S A PARK.
YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT. BUT REALLY THAT WHOLE PIONEER PARK, IS THAT CORRECT? BUT THAT WHOLE AREA WHERE IT'S GREEN COULD BE DEVELOPED.
THE TRICK IS TO DECIDE HOW DO YOU WHERE YOU WANT TO KEEP GREEN SPACE AND WHERE YOU WANT BUILDINGS.
THAT HASN'T BEEN DECIDED YET. SO IT JUST SHOWS AS GREEN SPACE RIGHT NOW.
WELL, I, I WOULD ARGUE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING.
SO WE HAVE LOTS OF DRAWINGS WITH BUILDINGS THERE.
AND WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE TO COUNCIL. YOU HAD A LITTLE STICKER THAT YOU PUT OVER THE I-30 RIGHT TO, TO SHOW US, BUT THAT REALLY SHOULD HAVE A MODEL OF THIS COULD BE BUILDINGS.
AND I THINK THAT'S MISSING. SO ALL OF THE PARTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE ARENA WITH THE THE ARCS.
ALL OF THAT IS DEVELOPABLE. IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
EXCUSE ME. YOU WANT TO GET THIS MIC RIGHT HERE? EXPLAIN. YEAH. SORRY. YES. WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IS ON THE MODEL THAT THE GREEN SPACE FROM LAMAR OVER TO THE ARENA IS THE DEVELOPABLE AREA. AND THAT GOES FROM CEREMONIAL DOWN TO I-30.
SO THERE'S A SORT OF A WEDGE OF PROGRAM THERE THAT'S INDICATED IN GREEN JUST AS A PLACEHOLDER.
THAT'S NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE CURRENTLY. AND SO THE IDEA WAS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE, AND THE LEVEL OF DENSITY HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED.
SO THAT'S BUT IT COULD BE HOUSING, IT COULD BE HOTELS, IT COULD BE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
YES. AND SO MAYBE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT COLOR IS REALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.
THANK YOU. KEEP GOING. YOU THROUGH? OKAY, I GUESS NEXT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE BRIEFING.
WE GO BACK. HOLD ON. OMAR YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MODEL? ALSO, I DO JUST TO GO OFF OF THAT IS IS JUST TO.
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ASKED STAFF AND WE ASKED IMAGINE DALLAS TO DEAL WITH.AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE JUST LEFT IT THE WAY IT IS SO THAT IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK A CERTAIN WAY.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING MUCH SMALLER. BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS CLEAR THAT WHAT WE PAID FOR, WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR, WAS A CONCEPT MASTER PLAN FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND NOT ANY DEVELOPMENT IN BETWEEN.
THE DEVELOPMENT IN BETWEEN. IT COULD BE HOUSING.
IT COULD BE BUSINESS. IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHO? WHO THE HECK KNOWS? BECAUSE THOSE DEVELOPERS, ONCE THEY START SEEING THIS AND REALIZE LIKE, OH, THERE'S GOING TO BE THESE TRACTS OF LAND OPENED, THEN THAT CONCEPT WOULD BE KIND OF LIKE ALMOST A PHASE TWO MASTER PLAN.
IS THAT WHAT WHAT I'M WHAT I'M KIND OF HEARING? CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
THE THE MODEL WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO GIVE YOU A, THE VISUAL REPRESENTATION.
BUT THIS TEAM THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TASKED WITH HOW THAT DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO OCCUR.
WE TALKED ABOUT JUST COMPONENT NUMBER ONE TODAY.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE WE DID ALL OF THIS, THAT WE DID SEE PICTURES OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD HAPPEN HERE, WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE. BUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY VOTED ON WAS A MASTER PLAN FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF.
AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT T BALL AND THE ARENA ARE PART OF THAT, A PART OF THAT.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON WHAT THESE FOLKS WERE TASKED WITH TO DO.
AND AND YOU HAVE DELIVERED THAT AS FAR AS WHAT WE REQUESTED.
THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE MORE MONEY THAT WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THIS CONCEPT IS GOING TO DO AND LET THAT MARKET DRIVE THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN BETWEEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, THANK YOU. SO I APPRECIATE THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION HOW YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE SEVEN DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, AND I WILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU COMPLETE THE PRESENTATION.
BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ON THE MODEL. WAS IT ONLY MEANT TO SHOW THE FIRST COMPONENT? YES. IT'S ONLY MEANT TO SHOW COMPONENT ONE AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE PROCURED THE PM AND THE DESIGNER FOR THE OTHER TWO COMPONENTS THAT SIT ON THIS SITE FOR T BALL AND FOR THE ARENA. WE'VE YET TO BRING FORWARD THE CMR. WE HAVE ONE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 20TH FOR MAY 28TH, AND THE OTHER WILL COME IN JUNE. AND SO JUST LIKE WHAT WE SHOWED YOU HERE TODAY WHERE WE HAD THE SEEMA WORK INTEGRALLY WITH THE DESIGNER, AND THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THE MODEL STAGE.
IN ORDER TO BRING THAT, FOR THAT, BRING THAT TO YOU WITH THE OTHER TWO COMPONENTS.
EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. LET'S STICK TO THE MODEL.
WE'RE NOT EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. HOLD ON.
BUT WE'RE NOT ON THAT YET. NO, CHAIR. I'M ASKING ABOUT THE MODEL.
I'M SORRY. IF YOU COULD ALLOW ME TO FINISH MY QUESTION.
OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, ON THE MODEL COMPONENT FIVE PIONEER PARK THAT YOU'RE SHOWING THERE.
ARE YOU INTENDING FOR THAT TO BE FURTHER DEVELOPED ON THE MODEL, OR THAT'S COMPLETION OF WHAT THE MODEL WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THAT IT'S INTENDED TO BE FURTHER DEVELOPED. SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, WE BROUGHT METROPOLITAN INFRASTRUCTURE FORWARD AS THE PM FOR THAT PROJECT.
THEY'RE EXPLORING THE CEMETERY AND DOING BORINGS THERE AS WELL.
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THAT'S THAT MEETS THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. SO IN THE MODEL, IS IT POSSIBLE TO OUTLINE IT BY COLOR, BY THE SEVEN DIFFERENT COMPONENTS INSTEAD OF MAKING IT SO UNIFORM. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION.
SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE THIS MAYBE LIKE A LIVE MODEL.
AND AS WE DO THE OTHER PIECES, WE CAN GET THEM ATTACHED, DO THE COLOR CODING.
BUT THAT WOULD NOT BE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
SO BUT THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND THE SUGGESTION FOR THAT.
AND SO I'LL FURTHER THE SUGGESTION SAYING THAT EVEN OUTLINING THE WHAT COMPONENT IS INCLUDED.
SO FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DECK PARK.
AND SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT USED TO LOOKING AT THESE.
AND BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY COMPONENTS TO HAVE THAT OUTLINE LIKE OKAY, THIS IS ONE, THIS IS TWO, THIS IS THREE. AND SO THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THAT DELINEATION AND THE BLENDING OF ALL OF THESE COMPONENTS BRINGS FORWARD IMAGES THAT I THINK ARE NOT ALWAYS REFLECTIVE OF THE ACTUAL INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BRIEFING.
WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE BRIEFING. THANK YOU. AND I THINK WE'RE ON SLIDE NUMBER 33.
YES. THANK YOU. SO GIVE US JUST A MOMENT TO SWITCH OUT OUR TEAM MEMBERS.
AND ON THE SCREEN. IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SAYS TRANSPORTATION, PLEASE.
SLIDE 32. OKAY. SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAD OTHER TEAM MEMBERS WHO WOULD PROVIDE OUR FINANCIAL UPDATES.
SO GUS CAN CARLY DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS WILL NOW BRIEF ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
GOOD MORNING. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN CARLY DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO THE APPROACH WAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM WHAT IS IMMEDIATELY NEEDED VERSUS THE SHORTER SHORT TERM AND THE MEDIUM TERM APPROACH TO HANDLING THAT. SO ONE OF THE FIRST ITEMS THAT IMPACTS THE SCHEDULE IS THE JEFFERSON VIADUCT, AND MODIFICATIONS AND ITS IMPLICATIONS AND IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING STREET NETWORK, INCLUDING HOUSTON AND LAMAR AND OTHERS. SO THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND SHOULD BE ON COUNCIL NEXT WEEK WOULD BE THE AWARD FOR THE ENGINEERING TO FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE PIECE OF JEFFERSON MARKET STREET AS YOU APPROACH DOWNTOWN.
AND THAT PIECE BASICALLY WOULD ALLOW THE. BUILDING STRUCTURE, IF YOU WILL, OF THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT IS GOING OVER THE JEFFERSON COMPONENT TO BE TO BE PURSUED IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT IT AND STAY ON SCHEDULE.
THIS APPROACH ALSO WILL INCLUDE KEEPING THE OPERATION TO THE OMNI HOTEL, AS WELL AS ANY CURRENT MOVEMENT IN THAT AREA, INCLUDING THE STREETCAR OPERATION SHOULD NOT BE IMPACTED BY THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS THE LANE CLOSURE LOGISTICS.
YOU'VE GOT THE CLOSURES DUE TO THE FIFA COMPONENT OF IT AND THEN THE CLOSURES AND THE TRAFFIC
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COMPONENT, TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE I-30 CANYON RECONSTRUCTION.SO ALL THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
AND ALL THAT WILL INCLUDE ALSO THE COORDINATION WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION PARTNERING AGENCIES AND STAKEHOLDERS THAT INCLUDES DART, TXDOT UNION PACIFIC AND AND OTHERS WHO ARE OPERATING IN THAT AREA.
AND THEREFORE THIS IS WHERE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT IN THE REACTIVE MODE AND LETTING THE ARCHITECT, ENGINEER AND THE CMR CONTINUE THEIR WORK ON THE REFINEMENTS TO THE DESIGN TO THE BUILDING SO THAT ONCE WE ARE AT A GOOD POINT, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL START INVESTING RESOURCES INTO THE OVERALL CONNECTIVITY AND, AND IMPROVEMENT WITH THAT, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE FUTURE TRANSPORTATION UPGRADES.
THANK YOU. GUS. CARLOS, IF YOU COULD REJOIN US SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT SCOPE AND PROGRAM VALIDATION.
YEP. SO, NEXT PAGE, PLEASE. YEP. WHAT YOU'VE SEEN TODAY IS REALLY THE THE COMPLETION OF THE SCHEMATIC PHASE WHICH HAS BEEN A COLLABORATION OF THE PROGRAM MANAGEMENT TEAM, THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TEAM TO VALIDATE THE BUDGET AND THE SCOPE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS, IN THIS PROJECT. THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THESE ITEMS REPEATING A BIT WHAT MICHAEL SAID, YOU KNOW, SALABLE AREA OF 1,000,035. SQUARE FEET 750,000FT² OF EXHIBITION SPACE. THE BIGGEST BALLROOM IN TEXAS AT 105,000FT².
108,000 80,000FT² OF MEETING ROOMS. ALL THE ASSOCIATED SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS SALABLE AREA, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO POINT 1,000,000FT² IN TOTAL.
BEYOND THAT, ALL THE LOGISTICS NEEDED TO SUPPORT A BUILDING OF THIS NATURE, WHICH IS ANOTHER ABOUT MILLION SQUARE FEET OF AREA FOR MARSHALING, LOGISTICS AND SO ON. AND THE COST OF PROTECTING INFRASTRUCTURE FROM OTHERS.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION. WE ARE RAISING THE BUILDING THE HEIGHT OF THE EXHIBITION FLOOR.
AND THE IDEA THERE IS TO PROTECT LEAVE A CONCRETE SLAB OVER, UP AND OVER THE TRANSIT RAIL ALIGNMENT TO PROTECT THOSE STRUCTURES DURING THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW BUILDING.
SO ALL OF THIS IS BEING DONE TO PROTECT THOSE FACILITIES FROM HARM AND TO HAVE AS MINIMUM INTERRUPTION OF SERVICE AS POSSIBLE IN BOTH DOING NO WORK OUTSIDE OF THOSE AREAS TO NOT YOU KNOW, DELAY THE PROJECT AND HAVE ISSUES AS WE PROCEED.
SO THAT'S A SCOPE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT, IN THAT BUDGET.
OKAY. THANK YOU. CARLOS. SO I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO OUR FINANCIAL TEAM LED BY JACK IRELAND, OUR CFO. THANK YOU. ROSA. AS MENTIONED, I'M JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE CITY.
TOGETHER THEY SERVE AS OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS.
SO ALSO THIS MORNING, I'M HOPING IN ADDITION TO DESCRIBING HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THE PROJECT, HOPEFULLY WE'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS THAT I THINK HAVE OCCURRED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS, SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS THAT MAY BE OUT THERE BASED UPON JUST THE READING OF THE MATERIALS.
SO HOPEFULLY OUR COMMENTS WILL CLARIFY SOME OF THAT.
IT WAS GOING TO BE A COSTLY PROJECT. AND SO TO FUND THIS TYPE OF PROJECT, WE HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT TO PAY FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY. AND SO BEGIN LOOKING AT WHAT REVENUES WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO PLEDGE TO PAY THE DEBT FOR THIS TYPE OF FACILITY.
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AND SO THE LOCAL HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, WHICH IS A REVENUE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, IS PART OF THE PLEDGE.UNDER THE LEGISLATION, THE CITY COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER OF 21 ALSO PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT WAS THEN APPROVED THROUGH THE STATE FOR A PROJECT FINANCING ZONE. AND SO WE'VE USED THOSE THREE REVENUES AS THE SOURCES OF FUNDS TO PLEDGE TO PAY THE DEBT OF THE REVENUE BONDS THAT WE WILL BE ISSUING. AND SO AS MISS RACH, OUR FORMER CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, BEGAN THE WORK ON THIS WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS BACK IN 22, THERE WAS A RANGE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE MAY BE ABLE TO HAVE CAPACITY TO PAY THE BONDS, AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ISSUE BONDS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1.2 BILLION AND $2.1 BILLION.
THAT SHOWS THAT THAT WAS THE RANGE THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
OR ARE WE BELOW OR ABOVE THE RANGE. WILL SOME OF THE REVENUES THAT ARE BEING PLEDGED HAVE PERFORM MUCH BETTER THAN ANTICIPATED THREE YEARS AGO? AND SO WE'RE CURRENTLY PROJECTING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO, WITH THOSE THREE PLEDGED REVENUES, BE ABLE TO BORROW A TOTAL OF $2.2 BILLION TO FINANCE THE PROJECT.
SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WE'VE KNOWN THE COST OF THE PROJECT WOULD OUT BE BEYOND THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE FUNDED STRICTLY BY THE REVENUE BONDS. WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT OTHER POTENTIAL SOURCE OF FUNDS WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE.
AND SO LISTED HERE FIRST IS CASH ON HAND. SO THE REVENUES, THE REVENUES AND THE PFC REVENUES, THEY'VE ALREADY BEGAN TO BE COLLECTED. AND SO THERE IS CASH THAT IS ALREADY AVAILABLE.
THAT IS AVAILABLE. SO THE SAME AS WHEN YOU BUY A HOME, YOU WOULD PUT A DOWN PAYMENT WITH CASH, PERHAPS THAT YOU HAVE THE SAME THING HERE. WE ANTICIPATE HAVING IN ANOTHER YEAR, WE EXPECT TO HAVE ABOUT $400 MILLION OF CASH THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT TOWARDS THE PROJECT. WE'RE ALSO WORKING. ROSA'S WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS LOOKING AT FUNDING SOURCES TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENTS THAT GUS MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO.
AND SO PART OF THAT IS GOING TO COME IN THE WAY OF A GRANT FROM COG.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. AND THAT'S NOT BEEN COMPLETELY NAILED DOWN YET, BUT IT IS IN THE WORKS.
AND AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO REVIEW THAT. ALSO ANOTHER SOURCE OF FUNDS, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, THERE IS LAND THAT IS GOING TO BE FREED UP FROM THE DEMOLITION OF HALLS A, B AND C I BELIEVE THERE'S ABOUT 30 ACRES 20 OR SO ACRES OF DEVELOPABLE LAND. THERE'S ALSO THE THE HOTEL THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER AND LOOKING AT THOSE TYPES OF ASSETS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THOSE ASSETS WILL BE SOLD AND HOW THOSE FUNDS CAN POTENTIALLY BE USED TO COVER THE COST OF THE CONVENTION CENTER RECONSTRUCTION. NAMING RIGHTS IS AN AREA THAT MISS FLEMING IS LOOKING AT NAMING RIGHTS FOR INTERIOR SPACES, EXTERIOR, PERHAPS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT. BUT WHAT REVENUES ARE GOING TO BECOME AVAILABLE FROM NAMING RIGHTS? A FEW SLIDES AGO, I BELIEVE ON SLIDE 30, THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT PARKING AND HOW PARKING IN THE END IS GOING TO BE DOUBLE OF WHAT IT'S ANTICIPATED.
AND HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THAT TO FUND THE OVERALL PROJECT.
AND THEN WE'VE MENTIONED THE VERTIPORT OR HELIPORT FOR AVIATION AVIATION DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE A COST SHARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COST FOR THEIR FACILITY. THAT'S PART OF THIS OVERALL COMPONENT ONE PROJECT.
SO IN THE PIE CHART, WE'RE SHOWING POTENTIAL REVENUES TOTALING $3.3 BILLION, WITH 67% OF THAT COMING FROM THE REVENUE BONDS OR ABOUT $2.2 BILLION. AGAIN, THOSE REVENUES ARE USING THE PFC, THE BRYMER AND THE LOCAL HOT AS THE PLEDGE TO FUND THAT $2.2 BILLION. THEN IN THE PIE CHART, WE'RE ALSO SHOWING THE CASH OF 13% AND THEN AND 20% MADE UP FROM THESE OTHER SOURCES THAT WERE WORKING, WHETHER IT'S THE THE SELL OF PROPERTIES OR THE CDBG GRANT, ETC..
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AND SO IN TOTAL, WE BELIEVE THAT WE'VE ARE LOOKING AT $3.3 BILLION OF POTENTIAL REVENUES TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.AND SO HOW DO WE GO FORWARD? WELL, WE HAVE NOT ISSUED $2.2 BILLION WORTH OF DEBT.
WE'RE NOT READY TO DO THAT YET. SO WHAT DO WE DO IN THE MEANTIME TO MAKE FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR ROSA AND HER TEAM TO BEGIN TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD? AND THE WAY WE WOULD PROPOSE TO DO THAT IS THROUGH A BRIDGE LOAN WITH J.P.
MORGAN. J.P. MORGAN WAS SELECTED LAST YEAR AS OUR LEAD SENIOR MANAGER WITH OUR TEN TEAM SYNDICATE THAT WORKS ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND THEY ARE THE LEAD ON IT.
AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON A BRIDGE LOAN OF UP TO $1 BILLION.
THIS IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL $1 BILLION. THIS IS NOT BECAUSE THERE'S A SHORTFALL OF $1 BILLION.
THIS IS SIMPLY INTERIM FINANCING UNTIL WE TAKE OUT WITH LONG TERM DEBT.
AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING DOING THAT IN THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT YEAR.
BY ABOUT JUNE OF 2026, WE WOULD ISSUE THE FULL $2.2 BILLION, WHICH WOULD RETIRE THE INTERIM LOAN THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, THE BRIDGE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND SO I'M GOING TO USE A COMPARISON OF OUR COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM.
WE USE COMMERCIAL PAPER WITH OUR DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.
WE USE IT WITH OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM THAT WE USE IT AS A JUST IN TIME FINANCING TOOL, SO THAT WE HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE TO AWARD CONTRACTS WHEN WE NEED TO AWARD CONTRACTS, START PAYING VENDORS AS WE START HAVING THOSE INVOICES COME IN, AND THEN WE ISSUE LONG TERM DEBT AND TAKE OUT THE SHORT TERM COMMERCIAL PAPER.
SAME THING HERE. IT'S A BRIDGE LOAN THAT WILL ENABLE US TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IT WILL ENABLE US TO GO AHEAD AND RETIRE THE $170 MILLION OF THE FIRST TRANCHE OF BRAMMER BONDS THAT WE ISSUED IN 2023. IT WILL ENABLE US TO HAVE A LINE OF CREDIT SO THAT WE CAN START AWARDING CONTRACTS, AND IT WILL ENABLE US TO START HAVING CASH AVAILABLE TO PAY THE VENDORS. NOW WE WILL ONLY PAY INTEREST ON WHAT WE ACTUALLY DRAW DOWN.
WE WILL NOT PAY INTEREST ON THE FULL $1 BILLION.
WE WILL PAY INTEREST AS WE DRAW FUNDS DOWN. BUT WE DO HAVE A FACILITY FEE OR A COMMITMENT FEE FOR THE FULL AMOUNT THAT WE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR. AND WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF OF J.P. MORGAN AND THE WORK WE'RE DOING WITH THEM TO MAKE THESE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO US TO GET THIS PROJECT STARTED AND GET IT MOVING FORWARD THIS YEAR. AND THEN IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2026, AGAIN, WE WOULD COME BACK AND REFINANCE ANYTHING THAT WE BORROWED AGAINST THIS LINE OF CREDIT. AND WE WILL ADD THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, REVENUE BONDS TO KEEP THE PROJECT GOING.
THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES JUST GOES INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT OUR PLEDGED REVENUES ON SLIDE 38, I BELIEVE. THERE WE GO. THAT SLIDE THIS IS A SLIDE THAT JUST SHOWS THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR PFC COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN CALENDAR YEARS 22, 23 AND 24, THAT WE ARE MORE THAN 100% BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL PROJECTIONS. WE HAD ORIGINALLY PROJECTED ONLY $60 MILLION OF REVENUE THROUGH PFC, AND WE'RE ALREADY COLLECTED $126 MILLION. SO THEY'RE REALLY PERFORMING WELL, AND THEY WILL ENABLE US TO MEET THE DEBT OBLIGATION TO PAY THE REVENUE BONDS THAT WILL BE USED TO PAY FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIS PROJECT.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK TO ROSA TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHEDULE.
AS YOU COULD SEE IT IN, IN THE SCHEDULE SLIDE THAT WE HAVE UP NOW, WE START THE DETAILED DESIGN.
WE ASK FOR HIM TO SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
OH, SORRY. I WAS SAYING THAT WE FINISHED THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE MAY 25TH.
WE'RE STARTING THE DETAILED DESIGN, THEREFORE, AND THEN THE ISSUING OF DOCUMENTS FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S THAT LINE YOU'D SEE AT THE TOP. NEXT COMES THE PREPARATION FOR FIFA.
AND IT'S REALLY THE SEPARATION OF THE EASTERN SIDE OF LAMAR A, A, B AND C THAT WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE, AND THE WEST SIDE OF LAMAR, WHICH WILL BE THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER.
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THAT ALSO MEANS THAT WE ENTER INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE, AND THAT CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS VERY INTENSIVE.THE SCHEDULE ACCOUNTS FOR UP TO 22 MONTHS OR SO OF OVER 2500 WORKFORCE ON SITE, ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS. SO IT'S A VERY, VERY LARGE PROJECT TO BE EXECUTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY.
AND THIS SUBCONTRACTED TO MOSTLY LOCAL FIRMS THAT WILL BE EXECUTING 100% OF THE JOB.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE PHASE WE'RE AT. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ISSUING SOME OF THESE SCOPES FOR BID AND ALREADY INTERVIEWING SOME PEOPLE FOR THE FOR THE INITIAL SCOPES OF WORK.
THANK YOU CARLOS. AND WITH THAT, I'LL GO THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS.
SO AFTER TODAY, WE'LL BEGIN THE FULL DESIGN PHASE FOR CONCEPT 15.
WE'LL BRING FORWARD ON MAY 28TH FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL, A SUBMISSION OF AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK FOR $90 MILLION THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE MAY 28TH AGENDA.
ON JUNE 11TH WE'LL SEEK CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR ONE, THE DRAWDOWN NOTE FOR $1 BILLION THAT JACK RECENTLY SPOKE ABOUT, AND THE FIRST GMP OR GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE PACKAGE WILL COME ON THAT AGENDA AS WELL FOR APPROVAL, SO THAT WE CAN START TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN MOVE THE CONSTRUCTION FORWARD SO THAT WE'RE DONE WITH SOME OF THOSE ENABLING WORKS PRIOR TO FIFA'S MOVE IN IN JANUARY OF 2026. WE'LL ALSO START THE PRE ENABLING PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION IN JULY, ASSUMING ALL OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS ARE APPROVED BY BY COUNCIL. AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO UPDATE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE OVERALL PROJECT AS WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
WITH THAT, WE'RE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE QUESTIONS ON THE ENTIRE BRIEFING.
SO I'M GOING TO GO TO YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST, FOR FIVE MINUTES.
ON ITEM A FOR THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU MAYOR. I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.
THIS IS A TRULY TRANSFORMATIONAL PROJECT FOR FOR OUR CITY, OUR RESIDENTS FOR OUR DOWNTOWN AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND FOR OUR ECONOMY AND WHAT WE DO HERE. THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU MAKE HAVE GOT TO BE THOUGHTFUL, SENSITIVE TO OUR CITY AND HAVE A VISION IN MIND FOR DECADES INTO THE FUTURE.
SO I'VE GOT A HIGH LEVEL QUESTION, AND THEN I WANT TO KIND OF FOCUS IN ON CONNECTIVITY.
ROSA. THIS IS REALLY FOR YOU. CAN YOU JUST TAKE US THROUGH ON A HIGH LEVEL, THE DECISION PROCESS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH TO GET TO THE CURRENT PLAN BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL? SURE, ABSOLUTELY. AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT AND JACK MATTHEWS SPOKE ABOUT ON ONE OF THE SLIDES, ALL OF THE ITERATIONS OF CONCEPTS THAT WE LOOKED AT TO GET THIS FAR.
WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT BUILDING OVER I-30 AND THEN IN OUR INTERACTIONS WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS, YOU KNOW, PROVE THAT WE COULD NOT DO THAT GIVEN CURRENT FIRE CODE.
AND SO FROM 2021 WHEN WE ENGAGED WSP, UNTIL WE STARTED THE ENGAGEMENT WITH OUR CURRENT PROJECT MANAGER INSPIRE DALLAS, WHICH INCLUDES CARLOS AND JACK WE HAD TO STUDY ULTIMATELY 40 OR 50 DIFFERENT DESIGNS.
GOT DOWN TO 16 THAT WERE ACTUALLY FEASIBLE IN SOME POINTS.
AND IN ORDER TO REMAIN A TOP PERFORMING CITY, THERE'S PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS.
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WE HAD AN EXISTING AGREEMENT WITH THEM WHICH ALLOWED US TO GO 23FT AND CROSS AT CERTAIN SECTIONS.WE NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE PROTECTIVE OF DART AND OUR OTHER TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT CONTINUITY THAT ALLOWED US TO REMAIN A TIER ONE CITY.
SO AS WE CHECK THOSE BOXES, THAT IS HOW WE ARRIVED AT CONCEPT 15.
KEEN. AND SO IT WAS A LONG JOURNEY. YOU SAID IT EARLIER.
I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER SAID IT AS WELL. IT'S BEEN SINCE 2021.
AND ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN STUDIED. RESTUDIED.
WE HAD TO BE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK.
AND WE WE'VE DONE THAT WITH YOUR HELP. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THIS QUESTION IS FOR JACK IRELAND. JACK, YOU MENTIONED THE BRIDGE LOAN.
I THINK PROBABLY MY COLLEAGUES HAVE HAD QUESTIONS FOR MEDIA.
I KNOW I CERTAINLY HAVE ABOUT THE YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CONCEPT IS WITH A BRIDGE LOAN.
YOU KNOW, I'VE DEALT WITH THEM IN MY MY OWN CAR WASH DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
YOU HAVE TO GET BRIDGE LOANS SOMETIMES TO, TO START YOUR, TO START YOUR, YOUR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
SO WHERE DO YOU THINK THE CONFUSION CAME FROM? AND IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY TO CLEAR IT UP? I KNOW YOU KIND OF ALREADY MENTIONED IT. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ONE MORE CHANCE. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CONFUSION CAME FROM, BUT TO CLEAR IT UP.
IT IS LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IT IS A TOOL THAT IS FREQUENTLY USED.
IT IS ESPECIALLY USED ON LARGE PROJECTS. I THINK THIS QUALIFIES AS A LARGE PROJECT, AND IT IS NECESSARY TO HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO GET THE PROJECT STARTED BEFORE WE'RE ABLE TO ISSUE ALL OF THE BONDS.
THERE'S THERE'S UNKNOWNS STILL ABOUT WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS GOING TO BE.
SO THIS IS A WAY OF MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND IT'S NOT UNUSUAL IN LARGE PROJECTS. ABSOLUTELY NOT.
WE WE EVEN USE IT ON MUCH SMALLER PROJECTS THROUGH OUR COMMERCIAL PAPER PROGRAM.
THANK YOU. JUST SORT OF A ONE OFF COMMENT HERE.
HAVING PERSONALLY BEEN LOST IN THE LAS VEGAS CONVENTION CENTER BEFORE, IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO HAVE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, THAT CENTRAL AREA. SO VERY GOOD JOB ON THAT.
AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL TOO. OKAY. THE ONE THING I KEPT NOTING ON HERE ON MY NOTES, WHERE THE WORD CONNECTIVITY WAS USED BY OUR DIFFERENT SPEAKERS THAT HAVE COME UP HERE AND LEFT, AND IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BY ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
I THINK MORE THAN ANY OTHER WORD. AND THE CONNECTIVITY, WHETHER YOU'RE INSIDE THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHETHER YOU'RE COMING FROM THE CEDARS AND COMING OVER, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A REALLY BIG PART OF THIS.
SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF HONE IN. I TRY NOT TO GO DISTRICT SPECIFIC TOO OFTEN IN THESE BIG PRESENTATIONS, BUT I AM A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE GARAGE.
THE CONTRACTOR GARAGE THAT'S BETWEEN HOUSTON AND JEFFERSON VIADUCTS.
I MEAN, THAT'S OUR ENTRY FROM OAK CLIFF. THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE COMING THERE.
WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THE EYESORE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER? ABSOLUTELY. AND SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT.
IT WOULD BE REFURBISHED AND RE IMAGINED IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE IT FOR PARKING.
SO IT WOULD NOT LOOK LIKE IT LOOKS TODAY. OR IF WE DECIDE AS WE MOVE FORWARD FROM SCHEMATICS TO DESIGN, THAT WE DO NOT NEED IT FOR PARKING. IT WOULD BE RAISED.
IT WOULD BE DEMOLISHED AND USED FOR ANOTHER USE.
OKAY. IS THE FUNDING THAT'S THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY? DOES THAT INCLUDE FUNDING FOR THAT GARAGE? IT INCLUDES PARKING.
YES. SO IT WOULD BE PART OF THE PARKING PACKAGE.
NO. AND SO, AS JACK SAID, WE'RE STILL FIRMING UP SOME OF THOSE COSTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONTINGENCY AND OTHER THINGS BUILT IN RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE GET TO DESIGN.
BUT AT THIS POINT, NO. OKAY. I'LL KEEP ASKING THAT QUESTION EVERY TIME YOU GUYS ARE UP HERE.
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AND JEFFERSON WILL GO TWO WAY? AT THIS POINT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING THE CONSULTANTS.AND PART OF THAT WILL BE ON THE SECOND ONE WILL BE BOTH THE INTERIM CONDITION WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY COULD POTENTIALLY BE. THE UTILIZATION OF A PORTION OF HOUSTON ON A TEMPORARY BASIS AS A TWO WAY OPERATION.
UNTIL BASICALLY AT THIS POINT, WE FORESEE THAT IT IS FROM THE CROSSOVER OF THE THE EXISTING PARKING INTO DOWNTOWN TO UNION STATION. AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN PART OF IT IS AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION OF JEFFERSON.
THE INTENT IS TO CONVERT THAT INTO A TWO WAY AND THEN CONVERT HOUSTON INTO A MORE PEDESTRIAN BIKE AND, OF COURSE, THE CITY CAR. SO FROM A TIMING STANDPOINT, I MEAN, AGAIN, IT WILL HAVE A BETTER ANSWER OR BETTER VIEW OF IT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PHASE TWO ENGINEERING. JUST. THANK YOU. STICK WITH US FOR A SECOND, PLEASE.
I NOTICED ON SLIDE 30 IF WE CAN BRING IT UP FOR A MINUTE.
THE STREETCAR IS PLANNED. IT DOESN'T SHOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE COMING AROUND ONTO YOUNG STREET OR COMMERCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THE STREETCAR? HOW IS IT GOING TO FACTOR INTO THE CONVENTION CENTER? SO THE STREETCAR DEFINITELY IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE MOBILITY AROUND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
SO THAT COMPONENT CAN CONTINUE PROCEEDING TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF THE OF DESIGN.
AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT PIECE FIGURED OUT BEFORE WE ADVANCE ANY CAPITAL INVESTMENTS ON THE STREETCAR.
BUT AS FAR AS PLANNING IS CONCERNED, THAT IS PART OF IT.
AND THE I THINK ONE OF THE SLIDES ALSO SHOWED THAT THE POTENTIALLY BRINGING THE STREETCAR ONTO LAMAR, GOING SOUTH INTO THE CEDARS AS PART OF THE COMPONENT, IN ADDITION TO THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTIVITY AND SO ON.
IT'S KIND OF A CHICKEN AND EGG THING. I'D HATE FOR US TO HAVE TO NOT PLAN FOR THE FUTURE TO WHERE WE WILL HAVE MORE RIDERS IF WE PULL IT AROUND AND TRY TO SOLVE THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE ISSUE WITHOUT FIGURING THAT PIECE.
SO I, I THINK WE NEED TO WE NEED TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE ON THAT BECAUSE THE MORE RIDERS WILL HELP US WITH THE OPERATIONS COST. AND TO CLARIFY, WE ARE CONTINUING THE PLANNING.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, LIKE I SAID, THE WE ALREADY HAVE 30% DESIGN ON THE OMNI EXTENSION AND WE ARE TALKING TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT WHETHER WE KEEP THE LOCALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE THROUGH DOWNTOWN AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.
SO THAT IS PROCEEDING AND IS PART OF THE CURRENT FEDERAL GRANT THAT WE HAVE FOR THE REIMAGINING, REIMAGINE DOWNTOWN. GREAT. LAST QUESTION ON CONNECTIVITY IS, HAVE WE APPROACHED DART ABOUT TRYING TO GET ONE OF THEIR TRAINS FROM DFW TO BE EXPRESS TRAIN? SO IT'S LIKE A DIRECT ROUTE TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
HAS THAT EVER BEEN DISCUSSED? LIKE WITHOUT STOPPING A BUNCH OF TIMES.
THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO, WE ISSUED A MEMO TO DART ABOUT OUR PRIORITY PROJECTS AND EXPRESS SERVICE BETWEEN THE CONVENTION CENTER AND DFW AIRPORT, AS WELL AS CONNECTIVITY WITH LOVE FIELD, WERE PART OF THOSE FIVE INITIAL PRIORITY PROJECTS.
SO WHERE CAN GREAT. GREAT TO HEAR THAT. THANK YOU.
WHERE CAN WE CONTINUE TO GET UPDATES FROM THAT? WILL YOU PROVIDE THAT TO US OR THROUGH TRANSPORTATION OR WHAT HAVE YOU? WE WE WILL BE PROVIDING UPDATES. WE MET WITH DART TO DISCUSS THE AREA TWO PLANNING WORK, WHICH INCLUDES THOSE PROJECTS AT THE END OF APRIL.
AND SO WE'RE SYNTHESIZING THAT INFORMATION AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT TO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. GREAT JOB. THANK YOU.CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM A.
IT'S TRULY SO MUCH MORE THAN A BUILDING. IT'S ABOUT THE FUTURE VISION OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
THE MODEL BEFORE US IS ONE THAT SHOWS US THAT WE'RE ONE STEP CLOSER TO THIS BECOMING A REALITY.
I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ADDING CLARITY TO THE $1 BILLION BRIDGE LOAN, AND MAKING THOSE DOLLARS AVAILABLE TOWARDS OUR CONTRACTS, AND TO PAY FOR THE OBLIGATIONS THAT ARE BEFORE US.
THIS IS NOT AN INCREASE TO THE BUDGET FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.
ROSA, THERE'S NO QUESTION IN MY MIND THAT YOU HAVE BUILT TRUST AROUND THIS COUNCIL AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. CAN YOU TOUCH ON THE NUMBER OF COMMUNITY MEETING ENGAGEMENTS THAT YOU HAD, AND HOW MANY TIMES THE CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM HAS COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL? SURE. I, DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER OF HOW MANY TIMES WE CAME TO COUNCIL.
I BELIEVE IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE 35 NUMBER RANGE OR SO.
A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT. WE HAVE DONE 450 ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES, BE THAT WITH STAKEHOLDERS, LARGER COMMUNITY GROUPS WITHIN COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE THAT WAS THAT WAS DESIGNED JUST FOR THIS PROJECT, ETC..
SO WE'VE TRIED OUR BEST AND WE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED BY THE COUNCIL AND OUR CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENGAGING AND THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT. AND SO WE APPRECIATE ANY AND ALL OPPORTUNITIES TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT.
AND WE TAKE ANY FEEDBACK ON ANYTHING THAT SOMEONE THINKS WE MAY HAVE MISSED.
THANK YOU. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CONNECTIVITY AND CONNECTION.
THIS WILL BE THE CONVENTION CENTER DISTRICT. IT WILL BE A DESTINATION WITHIN ITSELF.
BUT WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THOSE VISITORS AND RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO WHETHER IT'S THE CEDARS, THE FARMERS MARKET, THE WEST END, DEEP ELLUM OR SOUTHERN DALLAS.
AND YES, A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS WILL USE OUR SIDEWALKS.
WE'LL USE TO, TO GET TO AND FROM. BUT I WANT TO GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER BACK TO OUR STREETCAR.
AND KNOWING THAT OUR WEATHER CONDITIONS IN THIS, IN THIS STATE EMPHASIZING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN JUST CONNECTIVITY THROUGH OUR SIDEWALKS. AND SO I, I'M ASKING OUR CITY MANAGER TO REEVALUATE THE STREETCAR DOWNTOWN ALIGNMENT OFF OF COMMERCE AND INTO YOUNG, WHICH I THINK MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO DEVELOP.
THERE'S JUST SO MUCH MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP WITH ALTERNATIVE ROUTES AND AND SO WHAT? WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS IN EVALUATING THOSE ALTERNATES? YES, SIR. AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE CURRENTLY MEETING WITH DDE, THE MICRO MOBILITY COMMITTEE, AND WE ALL AGREED THAT WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT.
AND CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE A FEDERAL GRANT $2 MILLION THAT WE'RE FINALIZING SOME PAPERWORK ON IT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO BE ADVERTISING THAT AS SOON AS WE'RE RELEASED.
BUT THE POINT BEING IS, ONE OF ITS COMPONENT IS TO REEVALUATE THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION.
AND CERTAINLY THE YOUNG ALIGNMENT COULD BE ON THE TABLE AS PART OF THE EVALUATION.
AS WE'RE PLANNING THOSE THOROUGHFARES, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALIGNING THOSE WITH TREES AND SHADE.
AND THE BIG OPPORTUNITY FOR ME IS THOSE CONNECTING TO OLD CITY PARK.
YES. IT'S GOING TO BRING OBVIOUSLY HOUSING FOR OUR OUR TOURISTS WHO ARE GOING TO BE IN OUR HOTELS, BUT ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN HOUSING, ATTAINABLE HOUSING FOR OUR EXISTING AND NEW RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THE WORKFORCE.
AND THEN FILLING IN THOSE GAPS WITH RESTAURANTS AND SHOPS TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE, HERE IN DALLAS.
ROSA, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT, THIS THE BUDGET WAS ALWAYS AROUND A $3 BILLION.
MARK, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE CURRENT BUDGET IS AND WHAT THE THE LATEST BUDGET WAS?
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SURE. SO WE NEVER USE THE WORD COST OR BUDGET.IF YOU REMEMBER, WE USED USE THE WORD INVESTMENT LEVEL AND WE HAD A PICTURE, RIGHT? WE HAD A CONCEPT AND WE ALWAYS SAID THAT WE WOULD NEED TO WALK THROUGH IT AS AS JACK IRELAND SAID BEFORE, WHAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU WAS OUR BOND ABILITY, LIKE HOW MUCH REVENUE BOND WE COULD BOND TO.
SO I DON'T HAVE ONE FROM A PRETTY PICTURE STATUS AT THAT POINT.
I THINK WHAT'S BEEN CONFLATED SOMETIMES IS THE FACT THAT WE SAID WE THOUGHT BASED ON ON WHAT HAVE PROVEN TO BE LOW FORECAST AND PREDICTIONS OF WHAT WE WOULD BRING IN FROM THE PFC, WE THOUGHT AT THE TIME IT WOULD BE 2.5.
AND ON THE BREMER WE THOUGHT, AGAIN, THAT'S PERFORMING BETTER THAN WE THOUGHT.
WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BRING IN 1.2 BILLION. SO TOGETHER THERE WAS A 3.7 NUMBER IN REVENUE THAT WAS SHOWN AROUND, AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN CONFLATED OVER TIME AS THE AS THE BUDGET NUMBER.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE OPERATING COST IS GOING TO BE? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM THE GENERAL REVENUE OR SOMETHING THAT WILL BE COMING FROM THE BOOKINGS FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER? SO THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO FUNCTION ON ITS OWN REVENUE.
AND SO WE WON'T BE TAPPING THE GENERAL FUND FOR ANY OF THE OPERATING COSTS.
THE CONVENTION CENTER FUNCTIONS ON FIVE CORE REVENUE SOURCES THAT COMES FROM EVENTS, YOU KNOW, INCLUSIVE OF USER FEES, AV PARKING, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, WHICH IS THE LARGEST, ETC.
AND THEN THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, THAT'S THAT'S EARNED LARGELY FROM THE LARGE CITYWIDE CONVENTIONS THAT COME INTO THE CITY AS WELL AS ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE TAX. NOW, WE DO COLLECT SOME SMALLER LEASES AND SOME ADDITIONAL MONIES, BUT THE LARGEST TWO REVENUES ARE THE REVENUES EARNED FROM EVENTS AND THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.
THANK YOU. AND IF I MAY ADD TO ROSA'S RESPONSE ON THAT WHILE WE TALKED OR WHILE I SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT OUR PLEDGED REVENUES, WE DID NOT PLEDGE THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED FROM THE THE USER FEES, THE FACILITY OR THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE TAX.
SO THOSE ARE REVENUES THAT SHE HAS FOR OPERATIONS.
AND THAT'S PART DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEING PLEDGED.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PARKING.
AND BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TRY TO PRESERVE AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE.
SO WHAT WAS THE WHAT IS THE REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS AND WHAT IS THE PROPOSED NUMBER THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN? I'LL NEED TO ASK CARLOS OR JACK TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS THAT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THE THERE'S AN EXISTING 1200 SPACES THAT ARE UNDER A, B AND C.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO SAVE THOSE. BUT THAT'LL DEPEND ON A BUNCH OF THINGS RIGHT NOW WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THERE, WHAT AMOUNT OF THAT GREEN SPACE WILL REMAIN GREEN SPACE VERSUS BEING DEVELOPED.
THOSE WILL STAY. THERE'S ABOUT 700 SPACES WITHIN THE ACTUAL CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF, BUT BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE ACTUALLY CAN ADD TO THAT. BUT IT'S NOT IN THE NUMBERS WE'RE WORKING AT NOW.
SO IF WE FIND WE'RE WE'RE LOW ON SPACES WE CAN ADD.
SO I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT $14 MILLION IN OUR BUDGET, GIVE OR TAKE, TO DO THAT.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO OPEN THAT UP TO THE PUBLIC, YOU HAVE TO INCREASE LIKE THE ESCALATORS, THE, THE ELEVATORS, ETC.. SO IN TOTAL, WE CAN GET UP OVER.
I THINK ROSE IS CHEATING FOR ME HERE, GETTING ME THE SHEET, BUT IT'S ABOUT 4400, I'M GOING TO SAY.
AND IT'S I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M 4170 IF YOU ADD THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.
WHICH WHICH WE THINK WOULD BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT.
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BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY I GUESS WHERE I'M GETTING AT IS ARE WE OVER PARKING? ARE WE ARE WE BUILDING MORE PARKING THAN WHAT'S NEEDED? AND THEN I THINK COUNCILMEMBER WEST ALSO TALKED ABOUT REUNION GARAGE AND WHAT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS FOR IT.AND WHAT OTHER OPTIONS DO WE HAVE WITH THE REUNION PARKING GARAGE? SO LET ME BACK UP THEN. COMING FROM THAT DIRECTION, THE THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE KEEPING AS MANY SPOTS THAT ARE SITTING THERE THAT ARE FREE FOR US RIGHT NOW. WE'RE BUILDING THE MINIMUM MINIMAL AMOUNT IN THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF, BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXPAND IN THOSE TWO PLACES. SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE OVERBUILDING IT AT ALL.
BUT THAT'S BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO GO UP.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. THANK YOU. ROSA, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SAFETY MEASUREMENTS IN PLACE? EVERYTHING FROM THE NEW FIRE STATION TO METAL DETECTORS AND SECURITY.
IN IN HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SAFETY. I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS IN THE PAST, AND I JUST WANT TO SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SAFETY INTO CONSIDERATION. SURE. SO THAT'S KIND OF NEXT STEPS IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING.
IT'S IT'S GOING FROM SCHEMATICS TO NOW GO TO THE INTERIOR AND LOOK AT LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO THE BUILDING IN TERMS OF, OF SECURITY. FOR THAT. COULD YOU REPEAT THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION? I APOLOGIZE. RIGHT. IF YOU CAN JUST TALK ABOUT SAFETY MEASURES FROM THE FIRE STATION.
AND WILL THE EXISTING FIRE STATION BE CLOSED? HOW DOES THAT TRANSITION GO INTO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING ACTIVE FIRE SAFETY IN PLACE? SURE. SO I DON'T HAVE THE FULL TIMING ON THE CLOSURE OF THE FIRE STATION AT CANTON AND THE MOVE WE HAVE AT THIS POINT AGREED THAT THE FIRE STATION WOULD BE ON LOT E, IT'S SHOWN ON THE ON THE MODEL AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FIRE.
OUR NEXT STEPS, NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH SCHEMATICS, IS TO THEN MOVE FORWARD AND SIT WITH FIRE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING IT APPROPRIATELY. A PLAN THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT'S IN OTHER CONVENTION CENTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY, WHICH IS ALSO AN ABUTTING US, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, OF OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OVER THERE, WHERE FIRE AND POLICE AND OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS COULD SIT AND WORK WITH US AND WITH OUR OPERATOR AS WE BRING IN THESE LARGE EVENTS. WE DO THAT ON A SMALLER SCALE. NOW WE ARE WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND THE PD TO BUILD A MODEL THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE INTO THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER, AND IT'LL BE PHASED AS AS TO THE SIZE OF THE EVENT THAT'S COMING IN SO THAT WE WON'T EXPERIENCE THE THE ONE INCIDENT THAT WE HAD BEFORE.
OKAY. ON PAGE 13, WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT ABOUT THE POSSIBLE NEW DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S THE RAIL DISTRICT OR THE HUNT DEVELOPMENT OR NEW PARK. SO I DON'T SEE IN THE, IN THIS IMAGE HERE HIGH SPEED RAIL AND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. WITH RESPECT TO HIGH SPEED RAIL IN APRIL, THE THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION RESCINDED THE FUNDING TO AMTRAK FOR THE DALLAS TO HOUSTON ALIGNMENT.
AND SO THAT PROJECT IS NOW GOING BACK TO BEING PRIVATELY FUNDED.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO BRIEF COUNCIL ON THE PROGRESS OF THOSE PROJECTS, AND WE'LL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH ROSA AND HER TEAM TO INCORPORATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONNECTIVITY. WHERE THAT MAKES SENSE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON SOME FINANCIAL ISSUES.
ROSA, YOU INDICATED THAT A RANGE OF 3.3 BILLION TO 3.5 BILLION WAS THE INVESTMENT THAT YOU THINK WILL BE NECESSARY TO CONSTRUCT THIS FACILITY.
WILL THAT INCLUDE JUST PHASE ONE OR ALL THE PHASES?
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THAT INCLUDES COMPONENT ONE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES SOME SOFT COSTS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY INCURRED AND PAID. FOR EXAMPLE, THE COST TO PAY THE PROJECT MANAGER SITS IN MY CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND.THE COST TO PAY FOR THE ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN FIRM WAS PART OF THAT FIRST TRANCHE THAT JACK IRELAND REFERENCED EARLIER, THE 170. SO SOME OF THOSE COSTS ARE ALREADY HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED OR ARE OBLIGATED.
AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT AT A LATER DATE. SO HAS THAT RANGE OF NECESSARY INVESTMENT CHANGED SINCE THIS COUNCIL WAS BRIEFED IN DECEMBER 2021. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE BROUGHT YOU AN ACTUAL COST RANGE, RIGHT. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE CONFLATED, AS I SAID EARLIER, THE $3.7 BILLION AS THE THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE PROJECT COST. SO WE ALWAYS SAID THAT THERE WOULD BE AN THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN INVESTMENT LEVEL.
RIGHT. WE KNEW THAT OUR BONDING CAPACITY AND ALL OF OUR BRIEFINGS, I DID GO BACK AND LOOK THROUGH OUR BRIEFINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS BEING TRANSPARENT, BUT ALL OF OUR BRIEFINGS GAVE US VARIABILITY BETWEEN THE AMOUNT THAT WE COULD BOND, WHETHER IT WAS 1.8 TO 2 POINT 1 OR 2.2, AND THEN SAID THAT WHAT ADDITIONAL COST ABOVE THAT CAME WHEN WE WENT INTO SCHEMATICS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD START TO TOUCH THOSE OTHER OPTIONS FOR FUNDING THE SALE OF, FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES PORTFOLIO.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT COSTS NOW. OKAY. AND I HAVE SOME RECOLLECTION, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT CONTAINED IN THE BRIEFING POWERPOINT IN 2021, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN THE TWO PLUS BILLION DOLLAR RANGE.
NOW WE'RE TALKING 3.3 TO 3.5. AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT IS AN INCREASE IN WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED DUE TO INFLATION AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS OR SCOPE CREEP.
SORRY. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THAT.
IN 21, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A COST. WE REALLY HAD JUST STARTED THE MASTER PLAN PHASING.
IN 22, WE CAME BACK AND THAT'S WHAT JACK IS REFERENCING, WHERE ELIZABETH WAS STILL THE CEO CFO AT THE TIME, AND SHE TOLD US TO WORK WITHIN WHAT WAS BONDABLE.
RIGHT. AND THEN TO EXERCISE THE OTHER OPTIONS IF WE WENT ABOVE THAT.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE BROUGHT YOU A BRIEFING.
AND I CAN, IN A MEMO, PROVIDE YOU THE DATES OF THOSE BRIEFINGS.
BUT WE BROUGHT A BRIEFING BACK THAT SAID, OKAY, THIS IS THIS IS THE CREATIVENESS THAT WE'LL NEED TO USE IN ORDER TO FUND THIS ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING BEYOND AN INVESTMENT LEVEL. AND I THINK OVER TIME, AS JACK SAID, THERE'S BEEN SO MANY BRIEFINGS, THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT PEOPLE ARE WE'RE CONFLATING SOME OF THE NUMBERS.
AND SO I KNOW IN A LOT OF THE BRIEFINGS, I WOULD SAY INVESTMENT LEVEL AND, AND EVERYONE WOULD ASK ME FOR A COST, AND I KNEW I COULD NOT PROVIDE THAT AT THE TIME.
THERE'S CONTINGENCIES ON A LOT OF THINGS. THERE ARE TARIFFS.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS. THOSE ARE BUILT INTO THAT.
NOW, WILL THEY REALIZE OR NOT? THAT'S THE NEXT PHASE.
SO WHEN WILL WE HAVE A MORE DEFINITE COST FIGURE.
LET ME ASK JACK OR CARLOS TO COME BACK AND GIVE US A TIMELINE, PLEASE.
I WOULD SAY IT'S A IT'S A PROCESS THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
SO REALLY RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT SCHEMATICS. THE MONEY THAT'S GOING TO BE SPENT IN THE NEXT REALLY 10 TO 12 MONTHS WILL BE FOR FIFA AND GETTING THE CONVENTION CENTER. THE THE FIRST PART OF IT RAISED AND IN THAT IT'S ALSO THE ORDERING OF STEEL, ETC.. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE GETTING READY TO GET FIXED PRICES ABOUT ABOUT A YEAR FROM, FROM RIGHT NOW, GIVE OR TAKE A MONTH OR TWO ON EACH SIDE. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. I ROSA, I HAVE SOME CONCERN IF YOU'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT AN INVESTMENT LEVEL OF 3.3 TO 3.5
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BILLION IN YOUR SOURCES OF FUNDS INDICATED ON SLIDE 35 IS ONLY 3.34 BILLION THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SHORTFALL.HAVE YOU PLANNED FOR ANY SUCH CONTINGENCY? SO SOME OF THAT 3.5 BILLION INCLUDES COSTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR. SO IN THAT IS THE AGAIN THE PROJECT MANAGER TEAM THAT IS OBLIGATED AND ENCUMBERED IN MY CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION BUDGET ALREADY. SO NOT INCLUDED.
NOT INCLUDED IN SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO GO OUT FOR REVENUE BONDS FOR THE AMOUNT THAT YOU APPROVED FOR THE ARCHITECT, ENGINEERING AND DESIGNER IS OBLIGATED AND ENCUMBERED IN THE TRANCHE THAT WE DID.
THAT WAS THE 170 MILLION THAT WAS APPROVED IN OUR OUR TAGGED, I BELIEVE, AS 23 SERIES BONDS.
AS WELL AS THE CMARS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK TRINITY ALLIANCE.
THEIR COST RELATIVE TO PRE-CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS THE PHASE WE'RE IN NOW, IS IN THAT TRANCHE AS WELL, ALONG WITH THE MARSH. SO ALL THE THINGS YOU SEE ON THAT PAGE THAT MAKE UP THE THE TEAM RIGHT NOW AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE PRODUCING RELATIVE TO THAT ARE ALREADY ENCUMBERED AND OBLIGATED. SO NOT INCLUDED IN WHAT NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE FINANCED.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOVE THAT.
THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN COVERED SOMEHOW. IS THAT THROUGH CASH IN YOUR BUDGET? SO THERE'S CASH IN BOTH SITUATIONS. ONE WAS THE SERIES 23 BONDS, WHICH WAS 170 MILLION.
WE'VE EARNED ABOUT 4 MILLION IN INTEREST. SO I HAD 174 MILLION TO SPEND FROM THAT.
THEN WE HAD MY CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND, IF YOU RECALL, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOWN THE PATH OF THE CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN, I SAID, AND DID DELIVER ON REDUCING THE COST THAT WE PUT IN TO MAKE RENOVATIONS TO THE CENTER AND INSTEAD, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, LIFE SAFETY THINGS SUCH AS THE ESCALATORS AND THE ELEVATORS, ETC. AND SO I BEGAN TO PULL THAT MONEY AND PUT IT INTO A FUND THAT IS JUST FOR THIS MASTER PLAN PROJECT.
SO CREATING CASH FOR ME. SO GIVEN THE AVAILABILITY OF THOSE FUNDS IN THE $428 MILLION IN CASH THAT YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, WHY IS IT NECESSARY TO A HAVE A BRIDGE LOAN OF $1 BILLION AND INCUR THE COST OF UNDERGOING THAT? SURE. SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE FIRST GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE TO YOU.
WE NEED TO HAVE THE BUILDING SEPARATED ALREADY.
SO WE'LL START THAT WORK IN JULY. TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO ISSUE AND HAVE STARTED ISSUING CONSTRUCTION PACKAGES FOR WHAT ARE CALLED PRE ENABLING WORKS. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU FAMILIAR WITH CONSTRUCTION, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO ENABLE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES THAT NEED TO BE FUNDED AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. BUT THOSE AREN'T PROGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF INCURRING THE MAJOR COSTS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION.
IT'LL TAKE AT LEAST A YEAR TO DO THE DESIGN. YOU'RE AT SCHEMATIC.
YOU'VE GOT TO GO THROUGH DESIGN, DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ON A BUILDING THIS COMPLEX.
YOU CAN'T REALLY START NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.
WE UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF STEEL THAT WE NEED.
WE UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF SOME OF THE OTHER PRODUCTS THAT WE NEED AND TO HOLD PRICING BEFORE WE START TO GET INTO THESE TARIFF ISSUES THAT WILL CAUSE WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF PRICE ESCALATION, WE NEED TO ORDER THAT NOW.
AND SO SOME OF THE FUNDS ARE FOR THAT. AND I'LL HAVE JACK EXPLAIN THAT.
SO YOU'RE 100% RIGHT IF YOU LOOK AT IT AS A AS A SIMPLE BUILD.
SO DURING THE NEXT YEAR, TWO THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
YOU'RE GETTING READY TO GET TO THE THE MEAT OF YOUR GMP'S.
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AND SO YOU'RE SPENDING MONEY NOW TO GET READY FOR THAT.YOU ALSO HAVE FIFA SORT OF SANDWICHED INTO IT.
THAT MAKES FOR AN INTERESTING SCHEDULE THING.
SO YOU YOU START, YOU DO A BUNCH OF ENABLING WORK, YOU PUT FIFA IN, YOU GET QUIET FOR A LITTLE WHILE AS YOU'RE STILL TAKING DOWN THE HALF OF THE EXISTING CENTER. AND IN ABOUT A YEAR FROM TODAY WE'LL BE READY AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THE PRICING ON THE MAJORITY OF THAT CONSTRUCTION DEAL GOING FORWARD.
SO YOU'RE RIGHT. AND YOU SAY, HEY, WHERE YOU ARE ON THE DRAWINGS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, BUT IT DOES MAKE SENSE FROM STARTING THE DEAL TO GET READY TO TO ACTUALLY START THAT CONSTRUCTION. I'LL CALL IT A YEAR FROM NOW, BUT GIVE ME SOME GRACE ON THAT.
AND THAT WILL BE WHAT'S ROLLED IN. AND I THINK JACK CAN BETTER EXPLAIN THAT THAN I DID.
ACTUALLY, YOU EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL. SO IT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE THROUGH LINE OF CREDIT, IF YOU WILL, SO THAT THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BE AWARDED CAN BE AWARDED, AND THEN WE WILL ONLY DRAW DOWN AGAINST THE LINE OF CREDIT BASED ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE PAID. SO, JACK, YOU MENTIONED THAT WE'RE NOT READY TO ISSUE THE BONDS.
WHEN WILL WE BE ISSUE READY TO ISSUE THE BONDS? IT'S OUR PROJECTION THAT WE'LL BE READY TO ISSUE THE BONDS IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2026.
SO WE'RE SAYING BY MAY OR JUNE OF 2026, A YEAR FROM NOW, WHICH COINCIDES WITH THE TIME THAT MR. MATHEWS MENTIONED ON KNOWING MORE ABOUT WHAT THOSE ACTUAL COSTS ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE.
SO ANOTHER FINANCIAL QUESTION IN MY MIND IS HOW WILL THE DEBT ON THE EXISTING FACILITY, WHICH AMOUNTS, AS I RECALL, TO SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS BE RETIRED WITH THAT BUILDING BEING DEMOLISHED.
THEY'RE SECURED BY THE CURRENT CHAPTER 351 HOTEL TAX REVENUES.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SECURED FROM THE FACILITY.
IT'S SECURED FROM HOT TAXES THAT ARE LEVIED CITYWIDE.
WELL, ONE OF THE SOURCES THAT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED TO FINANCE THIS PROJECT, JACK, IS LOCAL HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX ON SLIDE 34. THAT WAS NOT INDICATED AS A SOURCE OF FINANCING IN THE DECEMBER 2021 PRESENTATION.
AND I'M CURIOUS, WILL THAT BE ALL OF THE CITY'S HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX? WILL IT BE JUST CERTAIN PORTION OF IT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE A FEW WEEKS AGO, YOU AS A BODY APPROVED THE ORDINANCE FOR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AND ITS DISTRIBUTION.
YOU HAVE 17.6% GOING TO VISIT DALLAS SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SELL THE CITY, 67.4%, WHICH IS A STATUTORY AMOUNT, COMES TO THE CONVENTION CENTER. THE REFUNDING AS AND STEVEN, STEVE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BETTER.
REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF OUR PAYMENT. RIGHT. SO WE RETIRE THAT IN 2038.
AND OUR PAYMENT IS NOW $19 MILLION A YEAR, DOWN FROM I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE HIGH 20S PREVIOUSLY.
AND THOSE BONDS PAY OFF IN 2039. WAS THAT 270 MILLION OR 207 270? OKAY. SWITCHING GEARS A LITTLE BIT, THE VERTIPORT.
WHY DO WE NEED A VERTIPORT AT THIS CONVENTION CENTER? SO THE VERTIPORT IS USED A LOT BY PUBLIC SAFETY.
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IT'S USED BY OUR HOSPITALS. IT'S USED FOR SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT COME INTO TOWN.AND I REALLY WANT TO DEFER TO DEB TO KIND OF OR TO PATRICK.
SO WE'LL BE WORKING THROUGH THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE THINK WITH THE NEW VERTICAL TAKEOFF LIFT AIRCRAFT THAT ARE COMING INTO THE MARKET OVER THE NEXT DECADE OR SO, THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUSINESS CASE FOR THESE TYPES OF OPERATIONS AT THE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER TO PLACES LIKE DFW, DALLAS, LOVE FIELD, OTHER PLACES. SO WE THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT.
SO DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE REFUELING FACILITIES THERE THAT DON'T EXIST TODAY AND THE EXISTING FACILITY? CORRECT. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE NEW ENTRANT VEHICLES WILL BE ELECTRIC.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ARE THERE CHARGING WHAT THE CHARGING CAPABILITIES MIGHT BE.
AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE FUTURE STATE AND WHAT THE FORECASTS ARE.
AND THEY THEY THERE MAY BE A NEED FOR A FUELING COMPONENT THAT DOESN'T EXIST NOW TO TO BETTER FOR THE BUSINESS CASE WILL THAT IF THAT IS THE DECISION, WILL THAT NOT INCREASE THE FIRE RISK TO THE BUILDING AND THE INSURANCE COST FOR THE BUILDING, POTENTIALLY. AND WE'LL WE'LL HAVE TO EXPLORE ALL THOSE COST BENEFITS WHEN WE, WE LOOK AT THAT AND WHAT WE DO FOR MODELING FOR WHAT THE USERS ARE GOING TO BE. AGAIN, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE FUTURE AIRCRAFT NEEDS AND WHAT'S COMING IN, BUT ALSO BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE TRADITIONAL HELICOPTER TRAFFIC THAT USES IT.
AND FINALLY WE WERE INFORMED IN DECEMBER OF 2021 THAT FOLLOWING THE CHAPTER 334 ELECTION, WHICH WAS HELD IN NOVEMBER OF 2022, THERE WOULD BE A TRANSITION OF THIS PROJECT TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR THE FOLLOWING PHASES OF THE PROJECT.
WE HAVE HEARD NOTHING MENTIONED TODAY ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE EDC.
HAS THAT CHANGED? THAT HAS CHANGED IN PART. I THINK WHAT WE'VE DONE IS TRANSITION THE TRACKING OF THE PROJECT FINANCING ZONE, WHICH IS A COUSIN TO A TIFF TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
I THINK WE WERE LOOKING AT THE TIME MORE FUTURISTICALLY WHEN WE GOT TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO COMPONENT SEVEN AND IF YOU RECALL, INITIALLY, WE DID AN RFQ AND AN RFP WHERE WE PUT ALL OF THE COMPONENTS OUT AS WE WENT FORWARD AND TOOK GUIDANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL AND FROM CITY LEADERSHIP.
IT JUST FELT BETTER TO LET'S LET'S WAIT, LET'S GET THESE COMPONENTS DONE AND BRING THAT DEVELOPMENT PHASE IN LATER, WHICH IS PROVING TO BE A GREAT DECISION BECAUSE THE MARKET HAS CHANGED AND THE NEEDS OF THAT SITE MAY CHANGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO EDC WILL HAVE NO ROLE IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF, ONLY IN THE POTENTIAL PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LIBERATED 30 SOME ACRES OF PROPERTY.
POTENTIALLY, YES, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS THAT THAT THIS BODY AND CITY LEADERSHIP ASK US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ON THAT 30 ACRE DEVELOPMENT SITE. SO THEY HAVE NO ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT TODAY.
NOT RIGHT NOW, NO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MAYOR.
MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM A.
THANK YOU. AND MR. RIDLEY COVERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS ON THE AMOUNT, BUT I'M STILL UNCLEAR.
AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE. IT'S THIS WAS A VERY IN-DEPTH AND SORRY I'M NOT THERE TO SEE THE MODEL, BUT I HOPE TO SEE IT WHEN I RETURN. WHAT IS THE FINAL AMOUNT ON THE PROJECT? BECAUSE YOU SAID THAT THREE POINT THERE'S A RANGE, BUT YOU'VE DRAWN DOWN SOME.
SO WHAT IS THAT THAT NUMBER. SO WE'RE IN SCHEMATIC.
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DOCUMENTS OVER THE NEXT YEAR WILL FIRM THAT NUMBER UP.THAT DOES AS I SAID EARLIER, INCLUDE CONTINGENCIES AND TARIFF ALLOWANCES, ETC.
IT ALSO INCLUDES SOME OF THE SOFT COSTS THAT I TALKED ABOUT BEING FUNDED IN IN OTHER PLACES.
AND SO WE'LL COME BACK. HOPEFULLY THOSE THOSE CONTINGENCIES DON'T HAVE TO BE ENACTED.
BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE BRINGING YOU IS THAT THAT FIRST GMP TO SEPARATE THE BUILDING.
AND SO THAT'S A COST THAT THAT INCLUDES THE SEPARATION COSTS THE CONSTRUCTION RELATED TO THAT, THE DEMO. AND THEN SOME OF THE EARLY PURCHASE OF OF OF STEEL COMPONENTS.
YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD ALREADY SPENT MONEY.
SO THE COST IS ACTUALLY MORE THREE THAN 3.5 BILLION, RIGHT? NO, THE COST THAT THEY'RE SHOWING RIGHT NOW INCLUDES A MODELING OF ABOUT 3.2 TO 3.3 WILL ADD THAT WHAT I'VE SPENT, I'VE INCLUDED IN THAT SOME OF THE COSTS THAT WE DID IN THE MASTER PLANNING AND ADVANCED PLANNING SPACE PAID SPACE.
WHEN I REMOVE THAT, WE'RE RIGHT AT ABOUT 3.5 IN TERMS OF TOTAL TOTAL COST.
WHEN I ADD THE 3.2 PLUS WHAT WE'VE ENCUMBERED, IT'S ABOUT 3.5, 3.5.
AND I CAN BRING THAT BACK TO. YEAH. BECAUSE I'M NOT I MEAN I'M I'M STILL UNCLEAR BECAUSE I GUESS THE QUESTION IS YOU'RE GOING TO BE ASKING, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE BONDING OR WE'RE GOING TO BE BORROWING TWO POINT THE 2.2 AND THEN WE'VE GOT ANOTHER MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET.
AND I'M NOT GETTING I'M STILL UNCLEAR, BUT WE CAN CATCH UP ON THAT AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
OKAY. SO THE HOT THAT IS SEEMS TO BE LIKE A VERY BIG PART OF ALL OF THIS EQUATION.
BUT GIVEN THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A GOOD MECHANISM IN WHICH TO COLLECT APPROPRIATE HOT TAXES, ARE WE LEAVING MORE MONEY ON THE TABLE HERE? NO, I SO THE BIGGEST PORTION OF THIS PROJECT FUNDING IS ACTUALLY THE PROJECT FINANCING ZONE THAT WE COVERED IN THE BACK AND SHOWED THAT IT'S OVERPERFORMING.
WE THOUGHT WHEN WE INITIALLY FORECASTED WE'D COLLECT FROM THAT PFC.
AND AS A REMINDER, THAT'S THE THREE MILE RADIUS DRAWN AROUND THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT INCLUDES 81 HOTELS AND THEN 234, I BELIEVE, ENTITIES THAT LEASE FROM THOSE HOTELS OR RESTAURANTS, BARS, ETC., WHERE WE COLLECT ALL WHAT'S CALLED HOTEL RELATED TAXES.
AND THERE'S FOUR CATEGORIES OF THAT. AND SO THAT'S OVERPERFORMING DOUBLE.
RIGHT. WE'VE COLLECTED WE THOUGHT WE WOULD COLLECT 60.
AT THIS POINT WE'VE COLLECTED 65 MILLION ADDITIONAL.
SO THAT'S THE LARGER POOL OF FUNDING. THE PRIMARY FUNDING IS THAT 2% INCREASE.
WE'VE COLLECTED ABOUT 54 MILLION. ALMOST 55 MILLION TO DATE.
THAT'S ALSO OVERPERFORMING. THE LOCAL HOT IS PRETTY STEADY FOR US.
AND HAS. A GENERAL GROWTH RATE OF ABOUT 4.1% YEAR OVER YEAR.
WE COLLECT, FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT 80, $83 MILLION A YEAR THIS YEAR.
AND THEN DIVIDING IT BETWEEN US AND AND OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE AND VISIT DALLAS AT THE 15% FOR OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE AND THE 17.6 FOR FOR A VISIT DALLAS. SO WE'VE HAD A STEADY GROWTH IN THE HISTORY, AND I'D LIKE TO KIND OF DEFER TO TO STEVE AND TO NOWY TO SHOW CONFIRMATION. WE'VE DONE A STUDY WITH HBS AND ANOTHER WITH 100 PARTNERS TO KIND OF LOOK AT THOSE.
NOW WE CAN ALSO, WITH ESTRADA HINOJOSA COUNCILMAN.
IF YOU MAKE THAT 60, THAT'S EASY. SO THAT'S ONE REVENUE STREAM THAT WE'RE PLEDGING $60 MILLION.
2% OF BREMER, 80% OF THE 2% IS 21.2 MILLION. SO YOU'RE ABOUT 81.2.
AND THE PFC, AS ROSA SAID, IS THE BIGGEST REVENUE STREAM OR AMONG THE REVENUE STREAMS THAT ARE UNPLEDGED, THAT'S ABOUT $55 MILLION. SO ALL COMBINED, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABOUT 135 MILLION WHEN YOU USE THAT 135 WHAT MR.
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JOHNSON SAID HERE EARLIER, WE'VE SOLD BONDS IN 21 AND YOU GOT PAYMENTS OF ABOUT $19 MILLION.YOU DEDUCT THAT. THEN YOU HAVE ABOUT 117 MILLION TO TO USE FOR BOND FINANCING.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THAT REVENUE STREAM WILL GROW.
IS THAT OKAY? THAT HELPS. BUT WHAT I'M I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF IN LITIGATION ON OUR, ON SOME OF THIS WITH THE STRS AND STUFF, IS THAT ARE WE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE BECAUSE OF THAT? WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A WAY TO REGULATE AND TO SECURE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DELTA THERE, BUT WE CAN GET OFFLINE BECAUSE I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE'RE LEAVING, IF WE'RE GETTING ALL THAT WE ARE GETTING CAN GET WITH THE VARIOUS HOT AVENUES.
SO IF I'M LOOKING JUST AT HOTEL RELATED HOT, THEN WE'RE DOING VERY WELL.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE STR RIGHT NOW. OKAY. HAPPY TO GET BACK TO YOU ABOUT THAT PART.
IT IS BECAUSE OF THE UNKNOWN VARIABLES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR ECONOMIC SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM A.
YOU ALL DID A REALLY GOOD JOB JUST REALLY IN THIS OVERALL PRESENTATION, BUT ESPECIALLY PROVIDING THAT CLARITY IN TERMS OF HOW ALL OF THESE FINANCIAL PIECES ARE FITTING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE AREN'T ANY GAPS OR IF THERE ARE, THEY ARE ANTICIPATED AND PLANNED FOR.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THAT.
THANK YOU ALL. STAFF, GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
MR. HINOJOSA AND STEVE GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN.
IT SHOWS THE COLLECTIVE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BIRDS ASKING QUESTIONS TO SORRY, KATHY.
THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
IT'S AMAZING. THERE'S NO QUESTION. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WE CAN ACTUALLY BE THERE.
AND, ROSA, THANK YOU ESPECIALLY FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
SO I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MAY HAVE HAD FOR US, WHICH IS WHY WAS IT THIS KIND OF CAUGHT OUR ATTENTION AND EVERYBODY WAS WORKED UP OVER THE BRIDGE LOAN OR THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN, BECAUSE I THINK I'M SURE EVERYONE AROUND HERE KNEW THAT WAS COMING AT SOME POINT THAT YOU WOULD NEED THAT TYPE OF FINANCIAL PIECE IN PLACE TO MAKE THIS WORK. I THINK IT WAS THE ONE PART THAT CAUGHT OUR ATTENTION.
AND AND 1 BILLION IS A THIRD OF WHAT YOU'RE PROJECTING THIS TO BE.
SO SO THAT I HAVE A RECAP AND AN ELEVATOR SPEECH FOR MY RESIDENTS WHEN THEY ASK ME ABOUT THE 1 BILLION I KNOW IT'S TO PAY CONTRACTS FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, AND IT'S TO PAY FOR THE WORK WE NEED TO DO FOR FIFA.
AND I HAD ANOTHER NOTE HERE. IT'S ALSO FOR ORDERING STEEL, I GUESS POTENTIALLY.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT THAT THAT, I MEAN, 1 BILLION FOR.
IT'S JUST A BIG NUMBER. AND I THINK US BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT WOULD BE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
IT IS A BIG NUMBER, BUT IT'S A BIG PROJECT. RIGHT.
SO IT IS AS COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON MENTIONED, IT'S A CONSTRUCTION LOAN.
IT'S FUNDING UP FRONT. TO GET YOU THROUGH THIS FIRST PHASE UNTIL YOU ISSUE THE LONG TERM DEBT.
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AND SO THIS ENABLES US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE CONTRACTS BY HAVING THIS LINE OF CREDIT.AND SO IT ENABLES US TO TO KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING.
AND I BELIEVE WE INDICATED UP TO THAT AMOUNT.
SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ANY OF THE NEEDS THAT YOU MENTIONED AS WELL AS AWARDING CONTRACTS.
AND, STEVE, PLEASE IF I CAN JUMP IN FOR A SECOND.
YEAH. I THINK JACKIE'S TRYING TO MAKE CLEAR NOT BEING NOT DRAWING DOWN THE FULL 1 BILLION.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON OR NOT.
WE ARE GOING TO INCUR SOME DRAWS BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT YEAR WHEN WE PAY THE NOTE OFF.
BUT IN ORDER TO LET SOME OF THESE LARGE OTHER CONTRACTS THAT JACK MATTHEWS AND CARLOS IS TALKING ABOUT, THE CITY IS GOING TO NEED TO TO ACCESS THAT. SO WE CAN EITHER DO A BILLION NOW OR WE CAN DO 500 NOW AND COME BACK TO YOU IN ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO ANOTHER 500.
WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN, BUT TO, TO GIVE US AS MUCH RUNWAY AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THESE, THIS FINANCING AVAILABILITY, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO TRY TO GET IT ALL DONE NOW AND THEN MOVE ON AND KEEP THE KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING.
I THINK ONE ONE EXTRA COMPONENT KNOWING, YOU KNOW.
SO AGAIN IS THAT IN ORDER FOR YOU TO ENCUMBER YOURSELF INTO A CONTRACT THAT SAY THIS DEAL IS GOING TO BE 300 OR $400 MILLION, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WRITE A CHECK FOR 300 AND $400 MILLION ON DAY ONE.
WE'VE GOT TO PUT ASIDE MAYBE 10%, BUT YOU CAN ENCUMBER THAT UNLESS WE HAVE DEDICATED FUNDS.
SO YOU GET THAT 1,020% COMMITMENT OUT TO THE PROVIDER.
THE OTHER 80, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALWAYS TAP INTO IT.
IT'S NOWHERE CLOSE TO THE BILLION. BUT AS STEVE HAS SAID, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE RUNWAY.
THE CITY'S PAID ABOUT 6% WITH THIS FINANCING.
MORGAN. ONE THING I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BANKS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT CAN PUT $1 BILLION LINE OF CREDIT FOR YOU, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. IT'S JUST A LINE OF CREDIT DRESSED UP AS A BRIDGE LOAN, DRESSED UP AS A REVENUE NOTE.
AND WHAT'S THE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR PAYING THE INTEREST ON THIS LOAN? IT WILL BE THE THE SAME HOT REVENUES. THE 351, THE BREMER AND THE PFC REVENUES WILL BE AVAILABLE TO PAY THE INTEREST ON THE NOTES.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
ITEM A THANK YOU, MAYOR. I GUESS EVERYONE IS SAYING THIS IS A BIG PROJECT AND BIG NUMBERS, BUT IT'S THE SAME WAY IF YOU TRY TO DO ANY KIND OF DEAL.
TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AMERICAN AIRLINES OR THE OMNI HOTEL FINANCING.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? FOR THE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER IN THIS FINANCING? YES. WHEN WE FUNDED AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER, WE FUND WE FUND THE HOTEL.
AND THIS PROJECT IS STILL THE CITY OF PROJECT, BUT NOW THIS CONVENTION CENTER.
SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE HOW WE FINANCE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, IF I RECALL, AND I'M GOING TO LET YOU JUMP IN HERE TOO, BEFORE MY TIME WITH HILLTOP. BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS FUNDED WITH MOSTLY SALES TAX REVENUE.
BUT IT WAS ALSO PARTLY WITH THE BREMER'S. THE BREMER PERFORMED EXCEPTIONALLY WELL, AND THE CITY WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO PAY THOSE BONDS OFF, I THINK 13 YEARS AFTER THEY WERE ISSUED. AND THEY WERE ISSUED AS 30 YEAR BONDS ORIGINALLY.
PRETTY MUCH ON TARGET, I THINK AS I SHARED WITH THE TEAM BEFORE, AND I CAN'T COMMENT ENOUGH MISS TOLBERT AND JACK FOR KEEPING US ON ON THE EDGE OF OUR SEATS CONSTANTLY BY CHALLENGING US WITH WITH IDEAS.
AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE DID THE OMNI CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL, I REMEMBER BEING IN THIS DAIS AND TALKING ABOUT HOW VULNERABLE THOSE REVENUE STREAMS WERE GOING TO BE. WE'VE GONE THROUGH COVID AND WE ACTUALLY CLEARED IT VERY NICELY.
WE DID MAKE A PLEDGE INTO A RESERVE FUND THAT IN CASE THE RESERVE FUND WERE IF IT WERE TO BE DEPLETED, WE WOULD MAKE UP THAT THAT RESERVE. THANKFULLY, SINCE THE HOTEL HAS BEEN AROUND, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD TO TAP INTO THAT RESERVE OR
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OR PUT MONEY INTO THE RESERVE. I THINK I THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF HOW WILLING YOU ARE.AND AND MR. ALBERT HAS PRETTY MUCH TOLD US, HOW DO WE GET THIS THING DONE? AND AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH.
THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTIES, AS WE ALL KNOW.
BUT I THINK THAT THIS FIRST STEP OF TRYING TO KNOW WHAT THE REAL FACTS ARE GOING TO BE ON COST BY GOING WITH THIS FINANCING LOAN, IT'S GOING TO MAKE MAKE IT CLEARER FOR US AS WE GO THROUGH THE THROUGH THIS ROAD TOGETHER.
SO YOU SEE A WHOLE LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. BUT WE ALSO LOOK AT THIS IS A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO WE DID SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
WHEN WE HAD THE OMNI HOTEL. I KNOW BALFOUR BEATTY WAS ONE WHO MADE SURE THAT EVERYONE GET PAID.
ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO MAKE SURE OUR SUBCONTRACTORS GETTING PAID ON TIME.
SOMEBODY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? SO YES, WE ARE.
HE'S NOT HERE. THEN I'LL NEED CARLOS TO COME DOWN AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH IT.
YEAH. THE ANSWER IS DEFINITELY YES. THE WAY THESE ARE BEING STRUCTURED ARE WITH SUBCONTRACTS THAT WILL BE ISSUED AND DIRECT PAY TO SUBCONTRACTORS AS THE WORK IS EXECUTED.
THE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER WILL BE ORGANIZING THE WORK.
BUT ALL THESE SCOPES WILL BE DIRECTLY EXECUTED BY SUBS.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY WERE HOLDING THEIR THEIR PAYMENT LIKE A 60 TO 90 DAYS, BUT THEY WERE GETTING PAID ROUGHLY, I THINK, EVERY TWO WEEKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH. AND BY DOING IT. PARDON. IT IS THE SAME INTENT.
YEAH. AND WHO IS GOING TO BE MONITORING THAT? IT WILL BE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AS A RESPONSIBLE PARTY.
AND OF COURSE WE WILL BE OVERSEEING THAT AS OWNER REP FOR ROSA AND HER TEAM.
SO THEREFORE WE MIGHT HAVE THESE SMALL LEAN CONTRACTS COMING, COMING UP.
SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE HANDLED. SO THEREFORE THE PROJECT WOULD NOT BE SLOWED DOWN.
I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN SAYING WE HAVE TO BE VIGILANT.
THE ELEMENTS ARE THERE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE ENFORCED.
SO THE INSURANCE WILL NOT BE A AN EXCUSE TO NOT BRING THEM ON BOARD, FOR EXAMPLE AND ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, TO THE CONTRACTS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DECIDED TO ACT ON AND HAVE AN OWNER CONTROLLED INSURANCE PROGRAM TO MAKE THAT VIABLE.
AND I THINK PIGGYBACKING ON THAT, THAT'S WHAT GOES BACK TO OUR ENGAGEMENT.
OUR CITY MANAGER WAS REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN WORKING WITH UNITED BLACK CONTRACTORS, THE BCA, OUR HCA, ETC. TO BRING THAT OCP CONCEPT AND THE CIP, WHICH IS THE OWNER CONTROLLED INSURANCE PROGRAM AND ROLLING OWNER CONTROLLED INSURANCE PROGRAM TO US TO BUILD IT. WORKED REALLY INTENSELY WITH ZARANDA WHO IS THE DIRECTOR FOR RISK MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY. AND WE'RE ABLE TO THEN BRING ON MARSH AS OUR INSURANCE CONSULTANT, WHO DOES THIS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IS REALLY GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB.
WE'VE JUST BUILT THE MODEL FOR IT HERE FOR COMPONENT ONE, AND WE'RE WORKING ON COMPONENT THREE.
OKAY. WITH THAT. SO THEREFORE IF WE TAKE CARE OF THE SUBCONTRACTOR CONTRACTING AND THE CONTRACTOR.
AND IF THEY'RE GETTING PAID ON TIME, IT'S A POSSIBILITY WE CAN BUILD IT'S WAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
IF WE BUILD A RATE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, WE WILL HAVE A SAVINGS. IS THAT CORRECT? IF THAT IS POSSIBLE, YES. WE'RE LOOKING AT A VERY TIGHT EXECUTION PLAN CURRENTLY.
AS I SAID, ABOUT 2500 WORKFORCE ON SITE FOR AT LEAST 22 MONTHS OF THE 39 OR SO OF CONSTRUCTION.
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DEFINITELY. SO WHAT IS THIS SCHEDULED DATE FOR COMPLETION? IT'S MARCH 31ST OF 2029 WITH SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.ACTUALLY, FEBRUARY THE 14TH OF THAT YEAR. OKAY.
SO YOU KNOW THANK YOU, KIM. AND THANK THE STAFF AND THANK EVERYONE FOR DOING THIS PROJECT.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECT I'M LOOKING AT STRICTLY FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EYE THAT THIS PROJECT WE NEEDED FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS IN ORDER TO COMPETE WITH OTHER CITIES. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE ARE YOU KNOW, WE CONSISTENTLY RANK IN THE TOP FIVE CONVENTION CITIES, BUT WE LOSE GROUND, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING TO CHARGE, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR CONFERENCE PLANNERS, ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO CREATE RESTAURANT EXCURSIONS, RETAIL EXCURSIONS TO PAY FOR ADDITIONAL AV, ETC. TO PAY FOR MARKETING BECAUSE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AREN'T AVAILABLE IN THIS IN THIS CITY.
AND WE LEAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS ON THE TABLE BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T ACCOMMODATE.
AND SO THE, THE, THIS SCHEMATIC DESIGN THAT WE PROVIDED TODAY ALLOWS US.
AND I'LL NEED CRAIG IF CRAIG DAVIS IS STILL HERE TO CONFIRM FOR ME.
BUT I BELIEVE 90% OF THE MARKET NOW AVAILABLE TO US TO BE ABLE TO TO BOOK AND BUSINESS THAT WE'VE TURNED AWAY IN THE PAST BECAUSE WE SIMPLY CANNOT ACCOMMODATE. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
I'M CRAIG DAVIS, CEO OF VISIT DALLAS. ROSA SPEAKS THE TRUTH.
CHRIS AND YOU, DARREN, SINCE YOU'RE THE EXPERT, YOU KNOW THE QUESTION I WAS ASKED THAT ONCE WE START CONSTRUCTION, THERE IS NO THERE ARE NO CERTAIN GUARANTEE IN LIFE.
BUT WHAT IS THE MARKET THAT'S SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CONVENTION TODAY? WE WAIT. WAIT UNTIL 2029. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO LOSE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GAIN? CAN YOU SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF? WE'RE GOING TO LOSE. WHAT? WE'VE ALREADY LOST A WHOLE BUNCH. BETWEEN NOW AND THE OPENING DATE OF THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER.
WE'VE HAD TO REMOVE OR TO RELOCATE MOST, IF NOT ALL OF OUR GROUPS DURING THAT TIME.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, YOU SAW THE THE THE ONE SLIDE WE HAVE WELL, NORTH OF 60.
DEFINITE CONVENTIONS BOOKED AND MANY OF THEM ARE FIRST TIME USERS OF DALLAS.
AND THEN THE OTHER 100 PLUS OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE, WE'RE HOLDING SPACE FOR THEM, BUT THEY WANT TO SEE THEY USE THE TERM, THEY WANT TO SEE SOME DIRT MOVE. THAT WILL GET THEM VERY, VERY EXCITED.
AND WE WERE ACTUALLY LAST NIGHT WE DROPPED ALL THESE RENDERINGS TO OUR CUSTOMERS.
AND I WOULD IMAGINE OUR SALES TEAMS ARE VERY BUSY TODAY ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR SALES TEAM AND YOU LOOK AT SOME NEW.
AND WOULD THERE BE MORE NEW BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NEVER CAME TO DALLAS BEFORE? BECAUSE THERE IS A MARKET BECAUSE SOME DIFFERENT, BIGGER AND BETTER WHATEVER.
THAT GIVES US A REALLY GREAT FINANCIAL CASE TO DRAW CONVENTIONS IN.
BUT THE THE THE BIG NEWS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OVER 100 MEETING ROOMS. THE BREAKOUT SPACE IS THE REALLY BIG PART OF THIS TO DO CONTINUING EDUCATION FOR DOCTORS, ATTORNEYS, YOU NAME IT. OUR PRESENT CONVENTION CENTER CANNOT HANDLE THAT.
AND SO WE HAVE A BRAND NEW ABILITY TO DRAW NEW, NEW CONVENTIONS THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD BEFORE.
YEAH, BUT WE HAVE SEVERAL CONVENTIONS THAT ARE NOT EVEN COUNTED IN THE 109 NEW OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THEY JUST SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU UNTIL WE START TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN. THEY'VE BEEN BURNED BEFORE BY OTHER CITIES AND THEY RIGHTFULLY SAY, HEY, ONCE, ONCE YOU CAN PROVE TO US THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO OPEN UP BY THAT TIME, THEN WE'LL START TO BOOK YOU. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW.
AND THE AND DALLAS IS RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION.
THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BRAND NEW KID IN TOWN FOR A LONG TIME.
AND WE LOOK AT, I KNOW WE CAN EXPAND THE ROOM SIZE AND THE SIZE OF THE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
SO HOW WOULD THAT RANK US IN THE UNIVERSE OF ALL CONVENTION CENTERS, YOU KNOW, VERSUS, YOU KNOW,
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HOUSTON OR VERSUS SAN ANTONIO, WHOEVER YOU KNOW? YEAH. RIGHT NOW WE'D BE EASILY IN THE TOP 15 IN THE UNITED STATES.I THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS WAS NUMBER 11. WE WOULD BE IN TERMS OF SIZE.
YOU HAVE OTHER CITIES LIKE LAS VEGAS. THERE'S NO COMPETING WITH DIRECTLY WITH LAS VEGAS.
BUT YOU HAVE CHICAGO, FOR INSTANCE, HAS 2,000,000FT² PLUS OF EXHIBIT SPACE.
SO WE'RE WE'RE IN A RAREFIED AIR. BUT THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT WITH OUR WITH WHAT'S COMING RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE IN TERMS OF SIZE, BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH AS, AS ROSA MENTIONED, 90 PLUS PERCENT OF WHAT'S OUT THERE.
I GUESS, YOU KNOW, MY MY ONLY CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE IS, NUMBER ONE, THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS.
NO EXCUSE THAT WE DO A BAD MARKETING JOB ON OUR CITY.
FOR 20 YEARS, I'VE BEEN PREACHING THAT WE NEED HOW WE SELL DALLAS, AND.
AND EVERYONE SELLS DALLAS BUT US. YOU KNOW, I GOT JERRYWORLD OVER THERE AND GOT EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE. WE NEED A MARKET.
I MEAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO MARK THIS GREAT CONVENTION CENTER, YOU KNOW? I KNOW YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, ROSA. THE CITY OF DALLAS.
I'M GOING TO TURN THE CITY MANAGER ALSO THAT.
HEY, WE ARE GOING TO BE AN INTERNATIONAL CITY.
EVERYONE YOU KNOW, JERRYWORLD AND EVERYWHERE ELSE THERE.
BUT WE ARE DALLAS AND I AM DALLAS. AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO MARKET THIS? I THINK THAT WE GOTTA HAVE A LARGE SCALE TO MARKET SOMETHING.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING PEOPLE AND MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO.
I ASSURE YOU, WE HAVE A PLAN AND WE'RE EXECUTING THAT PLAN. I MEAN, HOW? THAT'S YOUR PLAN, BUT IT'S HOW DOES THE CITY PLAN? HOW ARE WE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO HAVE ONE PLAN THAT WE CAN'T HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE MARKING THE CITY.
SO HOW DO WE COORDINATE THAT? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, MAYOR PRO TEM.
WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
THERE ARE SOME PIECES THAT I DEFINITELY KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE TAKING ON TO ASSIST THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN MISSING, I THINK, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE GAPS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE AND MANY OTHER MEMBERS OF OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE ALSO FOCUSED ON, AND I WANT TO PUT THIS OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ATTRACTION, WE ALSO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT RETENTION. AND SO ONE OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW IS HOW TO TRULY CREATE A BUSINESS RETENTION STRATEGY.
WE'VE ASKED FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO TAKE THAT ON FOR THE CITY.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS A MORE CONNECTIVE PROCESS AROUND MARKETING, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIFA, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONVENTIONS. YOU'LL BEGIN TO SEE THAT AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION CONTINUES TO GET UP, GET UP AND MOVING IN THE DIRECTION THAT I KNOW THAT THEY'RE HEADED. AND WE'RE AT THE TABLE AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT BODY, WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IN A COLLECTIVE WAY.
SO I THINK YOU WILL DEFINITELY START TO SEE SOME OF THOSE ELEVATIONS OF HOW WE MARKET.
THE CITY MAY NOT BE BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT YOU'LL FEEL IT WHEN YOU GO HOME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HOPE YOU CAN DO IT IN 25 DAYS.
I'LL BE GONE IN 25 DAYS. OKAY. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU.
BUT THEN TO AGAIN, ON THE LAST NOTE, WE GOT TO MARKET.
WE GOT TO MARKET OUR PROJECT. WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $3 BILLION.
WE GOT A MARKET. IF WE DON'T MARKET, PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO COME.
THANK YOU. MISS WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM A.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. FOR FOR ALL OF THIS AND TO HELP US WALK THROUGH THE CASH FLOW ISSUE AND THE NECESSITY OF DOING THIS, THIS LOAN, AND IT'S A DRAW DOWN AND YOU KNOW, ALL THE COMPONENTS OF THAT.
SO WE'VE GOT LOTS OF PRETTY PICTURES HERE. THEY LOOK GREAT.
AND I WAS LITERALLY SAYING YESTERDAY THAT I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO SEE THIS IN 3D FORM SO I CAN GET A SENSE OF IT, AND THEN POOF, HERE IT IS RIGHT AT THE HORSESHOE.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS. BUT I THINK AS I LISTEN TO THIS THROUGH OUR RESIDENTS LENS AND TAXPAYERS LENS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS IS OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. IT'S HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AND TAPPING INTO THE STATE INTO SOMETHING THAT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT I'M CURIOUS WHAT ASSURANCES WE CAN GIVE TO OUR RESIDENTS, OUR TAXPAYERS, ON STAYING WITHIN THIS BUDGET THAT REMAINS OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY VERSUS THAT FEAR THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS BRIGHT AND SHINY AND WONDERFUL AND WILL GENERATE A LOT OF REVENUE FOR OUR CITY
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AND MEAN JOBS AND HELP OUR CULTURAL FACILITIES AND RESTAURANTS AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS AND BE A BENEFIT TO OUR RESIDENTS.WHAT CAN WE TELL THEM ABOUT HOW WE CAN KEEP A CAP ON THIS? YOU'VE MENTIONED ONE POINT ABOUT EARLY PURCHASE.
SO AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT STEEL. WHAT ARE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN BE DOING NOW OR THAT WE ARE DOING NOW THAT CAN HELP ASSUAGE ANY CONCERN THAT WE ARE REALLY WATCHING THE CEILING ON THIS? SURE. AND I'LL ASK YOU TO CARLOS OR JACK MATTHEWS TO COME WITH ME.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT, IF WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ANYTHING IS, IS THE TARIFF ALLOWANCES, RIGHT? THOSE ARE THOSE ARE NOT THINGS WE CAN CONTROL.
SOME OF THE OTHER CONTINGENCIES. WE WOULD WORK WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE TOLD BY THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS TO, TO CONSTRUCT TO. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS RESONATED THROUGHOUT OUR BRIEFINGS WITH COUNCIL IS THAT ONCE WE KNEW WHAT OUR CAPACITY WAS, WE NEED TO WORK WITHIN WITHIN THOSE CONSTRAINTS.
THAT'S SORT OF THE FIRST PACKAGE. THE SECOND WILL BE DEMOLITION.
AND THOSE DESIGNS ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY ADVANCED.
AND THOSE PACKAGES ARE ALREADY ON THE STREET FOR BID.
SO ACTUALLY, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH INTERVIEWS.
WE'RE JUST NOW FOR THAT SCOPE. SO A LOT OF THAT IS, IS FIRMING UP THAT INITIAL COST.
THE NEXT ONE HAS TO DO WITH, AS YOU SAY FOUNDATIONS, WHICH IS THE NEXT STEP.
AND STEEL AND STEEL ERECTION. SO QUANTITIES DESIGN ADVANCING DESIGN IS AS MUCH AS WE CAN WILL WILL FIRM UP THAT PRICE. ORDERS OF STEEL ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, GETTING SECURING PLANT CAPACITY AND ALL THESE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT THERE. THE FACTOR OF TARIFFS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW VERY WELL ABOUT.
AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH TWO FACTORS ONE IMPORTS.
SECOND, THE REACTION BY LOCAL MANUFACTURERS UPPING PRICES BECAUSE OF THOSE COST ON IMPORTS.
SO WE HAVE TO BALANCE THAT. AND THAT ONE IS ONE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AS CLEAR AS THE OTHERS.
WE DO HAVE ESCALATION ALREADY AT 8.5% IN THAT RANGE FOR THE SCOPES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON, BECAUSE IT IS A RELATIVELY HOT, LABOR MARKET, RIGHT? SO DEFINITELY WE HAVE TO WATCH FOR THAT. SO ALL THESE PRECAUTIONS ARE IN PLACE TO KEEP THE COST WHERE IT IS.
AGAIN, ADVANCING DESIGN, REFINING. IT WILL BE THE THE TASK AT HAND.
OKAY. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPORTING AND YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP US ADVISED CITY MANAGER.
DO WE HAVE OUR CADENCE OUTLINED AS FAR AS ARE WE GOING TO GET A QUARTERLY REPORT.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE WATCHING THIS AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL BECAUSE OF THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS PROJECT? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS, FOR THE QUESTION. WE DEFINITELY ARE NOT PLANNING FOR TODAY'S UPDATE TO BE THE ONLY UPDATE.
AS WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER PROJECTS OF THIS SCALE, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE ONGOING REPORTING.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME THROUGH A LOT OF THOSE ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE DATA WHERE THEY COULD GO AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT NOT ONLY THE PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT TO WHERE THEY COULD GET INFORMATION, JOBS, ALL THAT.
SO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT LIVE AND MOVING FORWARD.
DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMING BACK WITH FREQUENT UPDATES TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WHETHER IT'S A QUARTERLY UPDATE OR JUST PART OF OUR MONTHLY KIND OF STATUS ON SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, WE CAN SEND SOMETHING OUT THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE WE ARE KIND OF WHERE WE ARE ON THE BUDGET.
SO I THINK IT'LL BE VERY APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE, AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO KEEP THAT TRANSPARENCY OUT THERE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WELL, IT JUST TOUCHES SO MANY DIFFERENT COMMITTEES OR IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO THAT. BUT I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THIS, THIS IS A FULL COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN DO THAT THE SAME WAY WE'VE DONE LIKE WITH THE BOND PROGRAM. OKAY.
AND THEN I MEAN, WE HAD A $51 MILLION SURPRISE COME OUR WAY ON BUYING A PIECE OF LAND WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE BECAUSE OF THE LOT E ISSUE. CAN YOU REMIND US OF WHY WE HAD TO DO THAT? AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE SURPRISE FACTOR.
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SURE, ABSOLUTELY. IF WE COULD GO TO SLIDE NINE.AND WHEN THAT PULLS UP, YOU'LL SEE WE. SO WE HAD BEEN MEETING AS A, AS A STAKEHOLDER GROUP INTERNALLY WITH TEXDOT AND OUR OTHER PARTNERS FROM THE ONSET OF THE PROJECT, JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANY MISALIGNMENT.
YOU APPROVED THAT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023. TWO MONTHS LATER OR LESS, WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM TEXDOT AND UP THAT THEY NEEDED WHAT'S CALLED LAYDOWN AREA.
THAT'S WHERE THEY PUT THEIR EQUIPMENT, WHERE THEY STAYED FOR CONSTRUCTION, ETC.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THE YELLOW.
SO IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING. AND SO THEY NEEDED THE LAY DOWN AREA FOR 3 TO 4 YEARS OR IN SOME CASES AN UNCERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. AND SO THAT IS WHAT FORCED US TO HAVE TO EITHER ONE COME BACK TO EVERYONE, INCLUDING OUR FINANCES, ETC., OUR, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS AND EVERYONE, AND TELL THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE DELAYED FOR YEARS, WHICH PUT THE PROJECT FINANCING ZONE FUNDING IN JEOPARDY, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE FUNDING GOES TO I BELIEVE, 2051, THE CAVEAT IN THAT CONTRACT WITH THE STATE IS THAT YOU HAVE TO START CONSTRUCTION, WHICH THEY JUST DECLARED AS A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT TWO WEEKS AGO.
WITHIN A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, WE WOULD HAVE LOST ALL OF THAT MONEY.
SO THAT BIGGEST POOL OF FUNDING WOULD HAVE BEEN GONE.
SO WE HAD TO MAKE A STRATEGIC DECISION TO REORIENT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
I MEAN, WE WENT THROUGH THIS ON DISCUSSING THE LAND PURCHASE.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANYBODY OUT THERE THINKING ABOUT THWARTING OUR PLAN AS IT STANDS NOW, LET IT BE KNOWN SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN, BECAUSE THAT WAS A PRETTY UNFRIENDLY MOVE.
I MEAN, THIS WAS NOT A NEW PROJECT. IT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED, THE FOOTPRINT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED, AND THEN THIS GETS LAID ON US, AND NOW WE HAVE $51 MILLION LESS BECAUSE OF HAVING TO BUY A NEW PIECE OF LAND.
SO HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE ANY MORE OF THAT GOING ON.
BUT YOU HAD SUGGESTED A MEMO THAT JUST OUTLINES THE CHRONOLOGY OF THIS, BECAUSE I THINK WHEN THAT FIRST NUMBER WAS FLOATED OUT HERE ON WHAT THIS COULD COST, AND IT WASN'T BASED PROBABLY ON ANYTHING SUPER TANGIBLE.
I MEAN, IT WAS MAYBE A GUESSTIMATION ON WHAT OTHER CITIES HAD SPENT AT THAT TIME ON THEIR PROJECTS.
AND SO I THINK PEOPLE WERE TETHERED TO THAT VERSUS SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE REAL.
SO WE'LL HAVE THAT HISTORY EVERY TIME WE HAVE OUR FINANCIAL REPORTING.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YOU MENTIONED ON THE HOT TAX $83 MILLION AND THAT THAT WAS TIED JUST TO HOTELS.
DOES THAT MEAN NOT SHORT TERM RENTALS? IS THERE THERE IS SOME SHORT TERM RENTAL IN THAT.
I DON'T HAVE THE PERCENTAGE. IT'S SMALL. THE LARGER PERCENTAGE OF THAT IS HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.
I'LL HAVE TO GET WITH OUR OUR CCL DEPARTMENT TO GET THAT DISTRIBUTION, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.
OKAY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S BEING ESTIMATED THAT ABOUT 45% ARE NOT PAYING THEIR HOT TAX.
SO IF YOU'RE OUT THERE AND YOU'RE OPERATING A SHORT TERM RENTAL, PAY YOUR PAY YOUR HOT TAX.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF ESTIMATE ON WHAT WE THINK THAT COULD GENERATE, OR EVEN WHAT THE PORTFOLIO OF OPPORTUNITIES WOULD BE? SURE. SO WHEN WE ISSUED THE RFQ RFP FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT, INHERENT IN THAT WAS ABILITY TO HAVE SOMEONE WORK WITH YOU TO DO NAMING RIGHTS AND SO INSPIRE DALLAS HAS LEGENDS OR CSL LEGENDS, WHO IS THE ENTITY THAT DOES THE VALUATION FOR NAMING RIGHTS? THEY WE ENGAGED THEM PROBABLY 4 OR 5 WEEKS AGO.
THEY NEEDED ABOUT 6 TO 8 WEEKS OR SO IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE VALUATION.
SO THEY'RE WELL INTO THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING THAT.
THEY ARE EVALUATING IT AS A DISTRICT. THEN INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS THE THE DEBT CONNECTION, THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE ARENA T BALL. AND THEN ANY OTHER INTERIOR TYPE.
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IN MEETING WITH CSL LEGENDS, THEY DID SAY THAT THE NATURE OF HOW YOU COLLECT NAMING RIGHTS HAS CHANGED BECAUSE THE MINUTE THEY SAY, HEY, I'M THE XYZ FOR, YOU KNOW, THE CONVENTION CENTER, THEY IMMEDIATELY START TO REAP THE THE MARKETING BENEFIT OF IT.AND SO THERE IS THE PUSH TO GET THE MONEY UP FRONT.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE ASKED LEGENDS AND CSL TO GET US TO.
AND CARLOS CAN YOU ADD ANYTHING TO THAT THE PROCESS.
NO, I THINK WE ARE WITHIN ABOUT FOUR WEEKS OR SO TO GET THEIR, THEIR INPUT.
WELL, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT. AND I THINK I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, MISS CITY MANAGER, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US DO THAT AS A CITY. AND NOT JUST LIMIT IT TO THIS PROJECT, BUT WE WANT TO GENERATE REVENUE AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE COULD NAME.
WHERE WOULD THAT REVENUE GO? THE REVENUE FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD GO INTO THE PROJECT.
AND I THINK CITY MANAGER TOLBERT. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT IS BECOMING VERY POPULAR. CAN DEFINITELY BECOME A SOURCE OF REVENUE.
BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM ADDITIONAL WAYS THAT WE CAN GET NAMING AT FAIR PARK.
SO NOTHING IS OFF LIMITS AT THIS POINT. I THINK THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE REALLY HAPPENING IN A WAY NOW THAT WE'RE REALLY THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE NORM, SO DEFINITELY CAN'T WAIT TO BRING SOME OF THAT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, NOT ONLY AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, BUT OTHER WAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM NAMING RIGHTS. GOOD DEAL.
WHAT WHAT'S BEING REPRESENTED AS A BIG PARK IN GREEN SPACE? AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DO WANT TO PUT GHOST LINES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THERE.
WE DO HAVE GREEN SPACE ALREADY EXISTING AROUND THERE.
BUT YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT HOW MUCH OF THAT WE WANT TO PRESERVE AS A, AS A PUBLIC SPACE I DO THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REPRESENT IN SOME WAY SO THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED.
AND THEN ON PAGE 30, FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO GET BACK INTO PARKING.
SO WE'VE GOT TOTAL DAY ONE, 20, 75 SPACES. AND THAT'S PRESERVING SOME EXISTING SPACES.
AND THEN TOTAL EXPANSION 2095. IS THAT TOTAL EXPANSION SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD SEE ACCOMPANYING THE EXPANSION PIECES THAT YOU SHOWED US, OR IS THAT THAT COULD COME SOONER THAN THAT? AND ALSO, HOW ARE WE TREATING STAFF PARKING VERSUS WE TALKED ABOUT PAID PARKING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT OUR STAFF TO HAVE TO PAY.
I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO NOT CREATE A HURDLE TO THOSE WHO MAY BE OUR SERVICE INDUSTRY FOLKS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER? SO CURRENTLY STAFF PARK IN THE GARAGE. WE DO PAY TO PARK THERE.
JUST BUT WE PAY MUCH, MUCH LESS, OBVIOUSLY, THAN THE $15 A DAY.
SO IN THIS CASE, THE REUNION GARAGE, THE UNDER-BUILDING, THE LOT E NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO THE EXPANSION THAT PERKINS AND WILL AND POPULIST TALKED ABOUT. THIS IS TIED TO SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDED ON ON DAY ONE, I THINK A LOT OF THAT. AND CARLOS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING.
YEAH. AND IT'S ALSO THIS UNDER THE BUILDING FOR THE EXPANSION TO BE A SECOND LEVEL, SINCE YOU HAVE HIGHER CLEARANCE NOW ON THE BUILDING, IF THAT'S AN OPTION. I THINK THAT WAS MY TIME, BUT I DO HAVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIRMAN ARNOLD, FIVE MINUTES.
EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. OF COURSE, AS AS WE ALL SAY FOR THE PRESENTATION.
BUT I WANT TO MOVE JUST QUICKLY IN LOOKING AT THE PACKET.
PAGES 11 A SLIDE 1116. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE CONCEPT PLANNING MATRIX.
PART OF WHAT I'VE SEEN HERE IS THAT THERE IS A STATEMENT THAT THAT IDENTIFIES THE SOUTHERN DALLAS.
AND SO FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LISTENING, WHO HAVE BEEN WHO HAVE VOTED FOR THIS PROJECT, WHAT DOES THIS LET'S DO THIS ON SLIDE 11. YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT IT SAYS SOUTH AND SOUTHERN DALLAS.
BUT ON THE MATRIX THERE'S ONLY REFERENCE TO SOUTH DALLAS.
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AND THEN ON 16 IT IDENTIFIES DOWNTOWN CEDARS SOUTH AND SOUTHERN DALLAS.SO AND I DON'T SEE IT ON THE DIAGRAM FOR SOUTHERN DALLAS.
WHAT WOULD BE THE INTENTION OF THE CONNECT COLLABORATIVE AND COMMUNICATIVE PIECE AS IT RELATES TO SOUTHERN DALLAS IN THIS PROJECT? SURE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED A LOT IN OUR ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS IS TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN SOUTH DALLAS PROPER AND THEN OUR CONNECTIONS TO YOU TO SOUTHERN DALLAS. AND SO PART OF THIS HAS BEEN ENSURING ONE THAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITY.
RIGHT. AND AND CONNECTIONS MEANS A LOT OF THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT CONNECTIONS IS NOT JUST THE PHYSICAL CONNECTION OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREETS, BUT OUR ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN SOUTH AND SOUTHERN DALLAS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE PROGRAMS, JOB CREATION, LOCAL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, THE MENTORSHIP THAT WE'RE OFFERING FOR THOSE.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE CONNECTIONS THAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE WE DID A STUDY EARLIER, AND WE'LL NEED TO REFRESH THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
BUT WE DID A STUDY TO TELL US WHERE THE WORKFORCE COMES FROM.
THAT'S WITHIN THE TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY SPACE DOWNTOWN.
AND IT'S THAT IN YOUR DISTRICT IN COUNCILMAN NARVAEZ DISTRICT AND THEN COUNCILMAN RESENDEZ DISTRICT, PREDOMINANTLY FOR, FOR THE CITY. AND SO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ONE, HELPING THOSE DISTRICTS GET CONNECTED BETTER FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE. BUT KNOWLEDGE, PERSPECTIVE AND KIND OF WHAT THOSE JOBS ARE, WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT THE ACCESS IS TO THOSE JOBS, AND THEN HOW THEY CAN GROW IN THOSE JOBS SO THAT WE'RE ENSURING THAT THEY'RE MAKING A WAGE THAT IS NOT JUST LIVABLE, BUT BUT BEYOND THAT.
BUT THEN ALSO LOOKING IN THE OTHER DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT VICKERY MEADOWS, YOU'VE GOT OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE NEEDS AND OTHER DISTRICTS. AND WHAT CAN WE DO FROM AN ENGAGEMENT AND WORKFORCE PERSPECTIVE? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT INSPIRED DALLAS IS WORKING ON WITH TRINITY ALLIANCE RIGHT NOW TO DETERMINE WHERE THOSE SITES ARE.
AND THAT'S A BRIEFING THAT ONCE WE'VE GONE OVER THAT WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND OTHER LEADERSHIP THAT WILL BRING TO YOU TO SHOW WHAT THAT WORKFORCE PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE AND WHERE THOSE THOSE TRAINING SITES ARE. WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME SOME CONSTRAINTS TO THE EXISTING WAY THAT WORKFORCE IS DELIVERED, FOR EXAMPLE. AND SO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO NOT HAVE THOSE CONSTRAINTS AND REMOVE THEM, AT LEAST AS A PILOT FOR THIS PROGRAM AND SEE HOW IT CAN GROW FROM THERE.
BUT THAT THAT'S THE TYPE WHAT WE SAY WHEN WE SAY CONNECTIONS.
DOES THAT HELP? ALL RIGHT. SO QUICKLY, YOU YOU I THINK IT WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY THAT YOU WILL BE TAKING THE LEAD ON THAT DESIGN OF, OF IDENTIFYING THE WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITIES, THE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS OR WILL IT OR WILL YOU HAVE TO DEPEND ON THE CITY TO, TO ENCOURAGE THIS PLAN, DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PLAN? WELL, I THINK WE HAVE SOME VERY STRONG PARTNERS, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS ALREADY.
YOU'VE GOT DALLAS COLLEGE, YOU'VE GOT THE BCA, OUR HCA, THE UBC AND THE DALLAS MINORITY BUSINESS COUNCIL, ETC. WHO HAVE BEEN AT THE TABLE WITH US SINCE THE ONSET.
WE'RE NOT READY TO DAYLIGHT IT 100% YET. WE HAVE TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO THIS COMPONENT FIRST AND THEN BE ABLE TO SHOW AND SHARE WHAT THAT PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE. OUR FIRST STOP IS OBVIOUSLY CITY LEADERSHIP AND OUR CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING BEFORE WE BRING IT HERE.
BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE ARE WORKING WITH PARTNERS.
THIS IS NOT A SILOED CONVERSATION. THANK THANK YOU.
AND I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDED PAUL QUINN COLLEGE TO THAT CONVERSATION.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I ADD THEIR NAMES AS WELL AS AND THEY MAY HAVE ATTENDED MEETINGS, BUT IF THEY HAVE NOT DONE THAT, I THINK THAT'S EXCUSE ME, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE MANY OF THEM ALSO ENGAGE IN PUSHING OUT INFORMATION ABOUT JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT THAT ON THE RECORD.
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AND I ALSO VOTED ON ELECTION DAY THAT THIS PROJECT GO FORWARD.AND SO WHEN WE VOTE ON ON THAT ON A PROJECT ESPECIALLY SUCH AS THIS I'M VERY HONORED.
YOU. AND IN DALLAS, WE WANT TO BRAG ABOUT IT.
WE WANT TO BE THE PLACE WHERE FOLKS WANT TO BE, AND WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COST TO BE THE BOSS.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, AS I SAID, I'M HONORED. BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT MY NAME BEING ON ANY PLAQUE OR NAMING RIGHTS OPPORTUNITY.
IT IS THE FACT THAT I WAS I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE A PLAN THAT INCLUDED A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS.
IN THIS CASE, IT WILL BE MR. JACK MATTHEWS WITH INSPIRE THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE CONTRACTORS, THE TEAM REPRESENT DALLAS. AND I REALLY FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO WE DON'T HAVE BUYER'S REMORSE.
AND SO I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT AND SUPPORT THAT.
BUT WE NEED TO HAVE IT TO, TO KIND OF REVERBERATE THROUGHOUT THE CITY SO THAT EVERYONE TOUCHES, YOU KNOW, MR. DAVIS OR MR. DAVIS IS UP THERE.
HE HE KNOWS I AM ABOUT THAT GOOGLE ABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO DALLAS.
SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT. AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK FOR THE FUTURE OF DALLAS, I CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS TO OPEN UP AND I HOPE THAT I'M STILL AROUND.
THAT MEANS LIVING AND BREATHING SO THAT I CAN BE A PART OF IT.
SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR SHARING. BUT I AM JUST EXTREMELY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THIS MODEL, TO TO KNOW THAT I'M A PART OF BEING ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE PHOTO OP WITH THE MODEL, BUT MORE HOLISTICALLY THAT IT IS A DIVERSE GROUP.
AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS. COUNCIL MEMBERS, THOSE WHO ARE LIVING, WHO ARE WHO ARE LISTENING.
I HAVE TO TAKE THIS PRIVILEGE OF SAYING THANK YOU TO MR. JACK MATTHEWS, BECAUSE YOU REALLY DID NOT HAVE TO TAKE THIS STEP, BUT YOU HEARD US IN DALLAS.
YOU'VE HEARD US FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT YOU IS THAT YOU CONTINUE TO REACH OUT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER. RACE, CREED, COLOR, AGE, PART OF THE CITY.
IF FOLKS WANT TO WORK, YOU'RE GOING TO WORK THEM.
AND THAT'S ALL YOU ASK. AND YOU ALWAYS TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.
YOU DON'T ASK FOR ANYTHING. THAT IS YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
REALLY? THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR. JUST TWO QUESTIONS.
ROSA, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THE CITY NOW CONTROLS ALL OF THE LAND NECESSARY TO DEVELOP THE CONVENTION CENTER? OR WILL ADDITIONAL ACQUISITIONS BE NEEDED? SO I'LL HAVE TO TURN THAT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN TERMS OF THE COMPONENT OF THAT. BUT, YES, WE DO HAVE THE LAND AVAILABLE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE ANY OF THE TRANSACTION THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE EMINENT DOMAIN. IS THE QUESTION. WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED? COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY THAT WE KNOW THE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE A VERY SIMPLE ONE.
DO WE HAVE CONTROL OF ALL OF THE LAND NECESSARY TO DEVELOP THE.
THE DEVELOPMENT, THE CONVENTION CENTER? I'LL HAVE TO LET THE CITY ATTORNEY ANSWER THAT, BECAUSE THERE IS A PIECE THAT THE COUNCIL WAS BRIEFED ON IN CLOSED SESSION THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH. I THINK THERE ARE TWO OTHER PARCELS THAT DON'T TOTAL MORE THAN SEVEN ACRES THAT WERE IN THE PROCESS OF EITHER PURCHASING OR EMINENT USING EMINENT DOMAIN TO PURCHASE.
OKAY. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE TWO PARCELS, THOUGH, WE CONTROL ALL THE REST OF THE LAND WE NEED.
I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THAT WOULD BE YES. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE OF THOSE OTHER TWO PROCEEDINGS. VERY GOOD. MY SECOND QUESTION IS FOR MR. MATTHEWS. I'M SORRY, NOT MR. MATTHEWS. OUR CFO MR. IRELAND. AND THAT IS SOMEWHAT REDUNDANT. BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CLARIFY ABUNDANTLY THAT THE BILLION DOLLAR LINE OF CREDIT IS NECESSARY MERELY AS A TIMING MECHANISM TO MAKE FUNDS AVAILABLE EARLIER IN THE PROJECT THAN WOULD OTHERWISE BE AVAILABLE THROUGH BOND FINANCING.
CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? YES, SIR. THAT IS ACCURATE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.
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OKAY, I JUST GOT ONE MINUTE. JUST A QUESTION TO THE CITY MANAGER.WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BONDS. AND ALSO, EVERYBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PENSION SINCE I AM, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING THE PENSION OF THE CHAIRMAN. DID IT AFFECT ANYTHING WITH THE PENSION BONDS VERSUS THIS CONVENTION? SO FOR THE PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS.
THIS PROJECT DOES NOT IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO TO CONTINUE WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO THE PENSION FUND OR FOR ANY FUTURE DEBT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, WHETHER IT'S PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS.
THIS DOES NOT IMPACT THAT ABILITY. SO TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE THINGS.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE SPOKEN AT ALL.
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES, HAS SHE? NO, SHE HAS NOT.
THANK YOU. NO, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN. AND CITY MANAGER.
SO STARTING ON PAGE 13. WELL, LET ME START WITH THIS.
SO YOU CONFIRMED THAT WE STILL HAVE $270 MILLION IN DEBT ON THE EXISTING CONVENTION CENTER, CORRECT? AND, JACK, CAN YOU CONFIRM THE DEBT WE HAVE REMAINING ON THE OMNI HOTEL? OR 395 MILLION OF PRINCIPAL? I'M SORRY. 395 OF PRINCIPAL A PRINCIPAL.
WHAT IS IT WITH THE INTEREST PAYMENTS AS WELL? I THINK THE TOTAL DEBT SERVICE I WANT TO SAY 43 MILLION.
I'M SORRY. I STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU. COULD YOU SPEAK RIGHT INTO THAT MICROPHONE, PLEASE? SO THE PRINCIPAL REMAINING ON THE CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL IS $395.3 MILLION.
THE INTEREST, IF WE PAY THAT OUT, IS $315.8 MILLION, FOR A TOTAL OF $711.1 MILLION.
OKAY. SO WE STILL OWE 700 MILLION ON THE OMNI.
OKAY. THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.
YES, MA'AM. AS IS THE 270 FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, RIGHT.
THE 270 MILLION IS PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST, CORRECT? YES. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, WHAT EXACTLY IS AT RISK WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A FIRM PRICE YET? SO A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK MODEL IS REALLY TO PASS THE RISK ONTO THE CONTRACTOR.
AND SO THE CONTRACT THAT THEY HAVE HAS A WATERFALL AND DOMINO KIND OF EFFECT OF LIQUIDATED DAMAGES.
THEY DID A FABULOUS JOB OF HELPING US WORK THROUGH THE LANGUAGE AND THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES, ETC., AS DID INSPIRED DALLAS WITH THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS BASED ON OTHER PROJECTS.
SO IT'S A CONTRACT THAT BASICALLY IF THEY CAN'T DELIVER ON TIME OR THERE IS DELAYS, THERE'S, THERE'S PAYMENT BACK TO THE CITY IN TERMS OF A LESSENING OF WHAT WE PAY THEM IN TERMS OF THEIR FEE TO THE POINT WHERE IT ZEROS OUT THEIR FEE IS THAT.
SO TRADITIONALLY, A CONTRACTOR AT RISK, A MANAGER AT RISK WOULD ALSO INCLUDE COST OVERRUNS.
IS THAT NOT PART OF THE CONTRACT? YES, IT'S PART OF I DIDN'T SAY ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES, BUT IT INCLUDES DELAYS, COST OVERRUNS, A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO THAT KIND OF MAKE UP THAT SECTION OF THE OF THE CONTRACT.
AND WHAT NUMBER ARE THEY BEING HELD TO? SO THERE WILL BE A SERIES OF OF CONTRACTS AT DIFFERENT POINTS. SO RIGHT NOW THE GMP ONE WILL BE EXTREMELY SMALL.
IT'S EFFECTIVELY A CONTRACT TO TAKE DOWN THE CONVENTION CENTER BETWEEN C AND D.
AND CAN YOU SPEAK RIGHT INTO THAT MICROPHONE, PLEASE? IT'S VERY HARD TO HEAR. OKAY.
IS THAT WE'RE THERE. SO SO BASICALLY THE FIRST GMP ONE WILL BE VERY SMALL, BUT THERE'LL BE A NUMBER OF ENABLING WORKS THAT CAN GET YOU TO GMP TWO AND BEYOND. AND AS THEY AS WE ACCEPT THEIR NUMBERS, YOU ACCEPT OUR ACCEPTED NUMBERS. THOSE BECOME CONTRACTS WHERE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT KICKS IN.
BUT TODAY YOU CANNOT HOLD THEM TO A CONTRACT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T FINISHED DESIGN.
AND SO IT'S THEY'RE NOT IT'S IT'S NOT WHERE THEY CONTROL THE ARCHITECT.
AND, AND THEY TAKE 100% OF THE RISK AND THEY GIVE US A PRICE WOULD BE A BILL TO SUIT.
THIS IS A THIS IS A STAGED DEAL WHERE THEY'LL TAKE THE RISK AS THOSE CONTRACTS ARE FINALIZED.
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SO AT THE AT THE. THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WILL HAPPEN WITHIN A YEAR TO BE 1 OR 2 AFTER THAT.AND AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR TODAY.
WELL, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT LESS RISK WHEN YOU WAIT TO DEFINE WHAT THE MAXIMUM CONTRACT AMOUNT IS.
AND THE ENTIRE GOAL OF HAVING THIS WAS TO SET A CAP, AND INSTEAD WE'RE SEEING THIS NUMBER ESCALATE.
YOU THANKFULLY GAVE AN ANSWER TO COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY OF 3.3 TO $3.5 BILLION FOR THE PROJECT, WHICH I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SOME MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT. BUT IS THAT NUMBER IN THIS PRESENTATION? YES IT IS. IT'S ON THE. LET ME JUMP TO THE PAGE.
AND CAN YOU USE THE PAGE THAT'S NUMBERED BY THE POWERPOINT.
IT'S ON PAGE 34 ON THE POWERPOINT. YOU'LL NEED TO PULL IT UP AS 33.
THERE'S A PAGE ERROR ON THE ONE THAT'S ONLINE.
SO IT'S THE SCOPE AND PROGRAM VALIDATION. IF AT THE TOP IT TALKS ABOUT THAT, WE'RE IN THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN PHASE AND THAT THAT'S THE SCOPE AND BUDGET VALIDATION PHASE. AND THAT CURRENTLY THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AND THE DESIGNER ARE AGREEING ON THAT RANGE.
AND HAS THAT NUMBER BEEN PUBLISHED BEFORE? THAT NUMBER HAS NOT BEEN PUBLISHED BEFORE BECAUSE THIS IS THE THIS IS THE PHASE WHERE WE FIRM UP THAT NUMBER. OKAY. SO OKAY. THE NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS PAGE 13. AND YOU'VE GOT THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS, BUT YOU SKIPPED A COUPLE.
BUT YOU DO HAVE THE DEC PARKS IN DARK GREEN. ARE THEY PART OF ONE OF THOSE SEVEN COMPONENTS AND IF SO, WHICH ONE? SO TWO OF THEM, THE WEST OF LAMAR AND EAST OF LAMAR, ARE CONSIDERED A PART OF COMPONENT ONE.
WE BROUGHT THOSE TO YOU ON AGENDA ITEMS, I BELIEVE, APRIL 23RD OF 2024.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE DID AN UPDATE TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024 WHERE WE HAD AN AGREEMENT, WHAT'S CALLED AN ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN OF THOSE OF THOSE DEBT CAPS.
WE ALSO BROUGHT YOU SEPARATELY, BUT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, THE LAST THREE THAT REFERRED TO AS THE THREE FINGERS THAT CONNECT TO OLD CITY PARK.
SO ALL THAT'S BECOME COME BEFORE THIS BODY BEFORE WAR AS A COST.
AND SO THE THREE FINGERS, WHICH I HOPE WILL COME UP WITH A BETTER NAME WHAT COMPONENT NUMBER WOULD THAT BE? THAT IS NOT PART OF A COMPONENT THAT WAS BROUGHT BY TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT AND RE-ENVISIONING OF OLD CITY PARK, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW AS A BUT IT'S SHOWN ON HERE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY WITHIN THE WITHIN THE STUDY AREA, BECAUSE IT'S JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE INTERSTATE 30 FROM FARMERS MARKET.
WELL, I THINK IT'S CONFUSING TO HAVE IT ON HERE, BUT THEN ALSO SAY IT'S NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT PART. MOVING ON TO THE FINANCIALS.
ON 36, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE OTHER SOURCES TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT FOR THE GRANT FROM THE COG.
THIS HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED, HAS IT? GO AHEAD.
NO, IT HAS NOT. WE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE COG, SCHEDULED FOR THE 29TH OF WHICH IS NEXT WEEK.
TO KIND OF FIRM UP SOME OF THE NUMBERS, WHAT WE NEEDED TO PROVIDE WAS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ARRIVED AT AS PART OF THIS SCHEMATIC DESIGN PROCESS, WHICH ARE WHAT ARE THE CONNECTED TOD COSTS RELATED TO THIS COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT? AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE A LIST OF NOW IN ORDER TO TAKE TO HIM TO DISCUSS IT WITH HIM.
IF I CAN ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BRIDGE LOAN IS IT TYPICAL TO OFFER THAT WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE FULL COST OF THE PROJECT? IN SEVERAL CASES, YES. FOR AN ONGOING PROJECT WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW THE FINAL COST AND WHERE IT'S STILL UNDER DESIGN.
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IT'S ONE TOOL THAT CAN BE USED TO TRY TO KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING WHILE THE PROJECT IS BEING WORKED ON.HE'S WITH HILLTOP. SO I'M A BANKER, TOO. DO YOU AGREE? DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT ANSWER? THAT THIS IS TYPICAL WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE IT IS TYPICAL.
AND THIS THE REASON WE PROVIDED ADVICE THE WAY WE DID IS BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SO MANY UNKNOWNS.
LIKE WE HAVE WE HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS TOO. AND THE BEST WAY TO SOLVE THAT IS BY DOING A, A LINE OF CREDIT FINANCING VERSUS A FIXED RATE FINANCING.
IF YOU DO A FIXED RATE FINANCING. YOU FIXED TO A CERTAIN PAYMENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ABOUT 30 YEARS.
WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE A FEASIBILITY STUDY FINALIZED, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE, BECAUSE THE STATE FINALLY GAVE US MONTHLY REPORTS THE WAY WE ARE ASKING THEM FOR. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS ON THAT SIDE, BUT WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE BEST WAY TO ATTACK THE FUNDING SIDE IS THROUGH THIS MECHANISM. WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON. THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH UTILITIES.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO WITH GEOS. WE WE DO THAT. OKAY.
AND ROSA THE NUMBER THE 3.3 TO 3.5 BILLION. THIS IS ALL FOR PHASE ONE CORRECT.
COMPONENT ONE. COMPONENT ONE I'M SORRY. YES I YEAH I KNOW THAT NUMBER.
THAT WORD HAS BEEN USED INTERCHANGEABLY AND IT SHOULDN'T BE. SURE.
DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER FOR ALL THE COMPONENTS OR TO ADD IN ANY OF THE OTHERS? NO. WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR, AS I SAID EARLIER, IS WE HAVE IN THE SAME FASHION THAT WE DID COMPONENT ONE, WE PROCURED A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE ARENA, A PROJECT MANAGER FOR T BALL.
WE HAVE A DESIGNER FOR BOTH OF THOSE COMPONENTS AS WELL.
WE'VE NOT YET ARRIVED AT A AT A COST. WE'VE NOT BROUGHT THEM FORWARD TO COUNCIL YET.
AND SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT PHASE, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THOSE ARCHITECTS IS TO TELL THEM WE WANT THEM TO WORK WITHIN A WITHIN A RANGE, AND WHEN THE CAR IS ON, IT IS BROUGHT ON BOARD.
WE'LL ASK THEM TO CONFIRM THOSE RANGES FOR US.
SO BOTH JACK AND CITY MANAGER, I HAVE ASKED YOU BOTH ABOUT A FINANCIAL PLAN FOR THIS, AND I THINK YOU BOTH SAID, OH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO HAPPY IT'S IN HERE. BUT THIS IS REALLY NOT A FINANCIAL PLAN.
AND I'M WONDERING WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET LIKE A FUNDING SCHEDULE WHEN YOU KNOW ALL THE ELEMENTS OF THE SCOPE, LIKE WE'RE MISSING WHAT THE EXPECTED DEBT PAYMENTS ARE WHEN WE THINK IT'LL ALL BE ISSUED.
LIKE THAT'S THE KIND OF FINANCIAL PLAN I WAS LOOKING FOR.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE DON'T HAVE, LIKE, A DEBT REPAYMENT SCHEDULE.
WELL, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S NECESSARY. HOW DOES THE EXISTING DEBT PAYMENTS ON THE CONVENTION CENTER TODAY IMPACT THIS? I MEAN, ARE YOU GOING TO PAY THAT OFF BEFORE YOU START ISSUING NEW DEBT, OR ARE YOU GOING TO CONTINUE PAYING ON A BUILDING THAT'S NOT EVEN THERE? RIGHT NOW, THE PLAN IS TO LEAVE THAT DEBT OUTSTANDING.
WE'VE LOOKED AT WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE TO RESTRUCTURE THAT OR REFINANCE THAT.
WE'VE GOT CAPACITY TO STRUCTURE AROUND THAT LOAN.
AND IF IT MAKES ECONOMIC SENSE AT SOME POINT TO REFINANCE THAT.
SO YOU CAN'T USE THE PFC OR THE BRIMER. SO IT IF WE RESTRUCTURED IT, WE COULD PUSH THAT OUT, BUT THEN THAT WOULD INCREASE THE COST OF THE OTHER PORTION OF THE TRANSACTION.
AND SO ALONG WITH THE THE DEBT PAYMENTS, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE THE REVENUE FORECAST? AND JUST LIKE THE CASH FLOWS TO SHARE WITH US, WE DO HAVE A REVENUE FORECAST.
OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT LIKE ANNUAL COST TO RUN THE FACILITY.
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RISK ANALYSIS, LIKE ALL ALL THE NORMAL THINGS THAT WOULD BE PART OF AN ACTUAL FINANCIAL PLAN ARE MISSING FROM THIS.AND, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW OUR COUNCIL EVEN APPROVED IT WITHOUT IT.
IT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I DID NOT VOTE FOR IT.
THE BRIDGE LOAN OR ALL OF IT. I MEAN, WHAT OTHER CONSIDERATIONS HAVE THERE BEEN? AND THAT'LL BE THE LAST QUESTION FOR THIS ROUND. BUT YOU HAVE TWO MORE.
SO IF I COULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, ARE YOU ASKING WHAT OPTIONS HAVE WE LOOKED AT FOR THE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT? I THINK THERE WAS A SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION THAT MR. IRELAND, OUR CFO, WENT THROUGH. WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHAT WAS ALSO SHARED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2022 AND WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK OFF OF THOSE ADDITIONAL SOURCES.
SO IF YOU'LL GO TO SLIDE NUMBER ROSA, LET'S PUT THE SLIDE UP PLEASE.
SLIDE 36 PLEASE. SO THAT WAS THE SLIDE THAT WE ACTUALLY PRESENTED TO SHOW ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SOURCES OF FUNDING. AND AGAIN THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT COUNCIL HAD BEEN THAT HAD BEEN SHARED.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. SO WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR QUESTION? LET ME GET YOU I'LL LET YOU REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME. NO, GO AHEAD. REPEAT IT, CLARIFY IT, AND THEN WE'LL GET AN ANSWER TO IT. AND THEN THAT REALLY WILL BE YOUR TIME FOR THIS ROUND. WELL, THE QUESTION IS NOT WHAT OTHER SOURCES ARE AVAILABLE.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT OTHER IDEAS HAVE YOU HAD TO FINANCE THIS OR TO CHANGE THE MANNER IN WHICH IT'S BEING FINANCED? I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONE PATH AND THAT'S THE ONE PATH YOU'VE GONE DOWN.
OKAY. SO I, I WOULD FIRST OF ALL SAY THAT WE HAVE A TEAM OF FINANCIAL ADVISORS WHO TWO ARE REPRESENTED HERE RIGHT NOW WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE, THE STAFF TO COME UP WITH WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
SO I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE WE'RE JUST COMING WITH SOMETHING OUT OF THE SKY.
THIS HAS BEEN A CONTINUATION OF CONVERSATIONS.
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MARKET, WHAT WE COULD ACTUALLY TRULY HAVE THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED, THAT WILL TRULY KEEP THE PROJECT ON SCHEDULE. EVERYBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT THE TIMELINESS OF THE PROJECT.
SO THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO GET TO THE BRIDGE LOAN, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR US TO KEEP MOVING, KEEP WITH OUR COMMITMENTS, AS WELL AS BEGIN DEMOLITION ACTIVITIES IN JULY OF THIS YEAR.
SO IT'S BACK TO FEASIBILITY WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT IS THE BEST PATH FORWARD.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED TODAY. THANK YOU.
OKAY, SO I'M SORRY MY I WILL CATCH YOU ON THE NEXT ROUND TO CLARIFY.
BUT THAT WAS NOT WHAT THE QUESTION IS. ALRIGHTY.
LET'S SEE HERE. I THINK WE ARE ON ROUND TWO FOR EVERYONE.
SO ARE YOU. WHY DO I HAVE. OH, YOU WERE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MODEL.
THAT DIDN'T COUNT. ALRIGHT. I HAD TO STICK TO MY OWN RULES.
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU KNOW, I'M A STICKLER FOR THE RULES AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, I HAD WRITTEN IT DOWN ALREADY. SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS AMAZING PRESENTATION, AND I AM SORRY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL ARE STILL SITTING THERE BECAUSE IT'S ONE ALMOST 145 IN THE, IN THE AFTERNOON. BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT TOGETHER AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVED FOR US TO DO.
SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT SOME MAY SAY AT THIS HORSESHOE, THAT HOW THIS COUNCIL DID THIS OR THAT OR WHATEVER, IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE 14 TO 1 FORWARDED THIS TO THE VOTERS TO VOTE ON.
AND IT IS OUR JOB TO DO WHAT THE VOTERS SAID FOR US TO DO.
WE HAVE TO DO. AND THERE ARE SOME IN THIS BODY THAT SOMETIMES FORGET THAT THE VOTERS ACTUALLY ARE THE ONES THAT MATTER, AND NOT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S SITTING HERE AT THE HORSESHOE.
SO ON THIS, ON THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT THE BUDGET IS, AM I CORRECT? ROSA, CITY MANAGER, THAT CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU OF OUR OF OUR CITY.
IS THAT AN ENTERPRISE FUND? YES, SIR. THE CONVENTION CENTER IS ONE OF OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
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AND HOW DO THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE AND ALL OF THAT GET PAID FOR? SURE. SO WE USE A COMBINATION. WE HAVE OUR REVENUE SOURCES FROM RENTAL OF THE FACILITY.SO USER FEE FOOD AND BEVERAGE IS THE BIGGEST ALCOHOL SALES ETCETERA.
AB AND THEN WE COLLECT HOT SO CO COLLECTION FOR US AND DISTRIBUTES IT TO US BASED ON THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL APPROVED A FEW MONTHS AGO. SO ZERO, 67.4% OF THE HEART THAT'S COLLECTED GOES TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.
AND COMBINED WITH THAT, THAT'S HOW WE ARE SELF-SUPPORTING.
HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO MAKE PAYMENTS ON ALL THE BILLS THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS OWED THE CONVENTION CENTER UP TO THIS DATE? YES, WE HAVE. HAS THERE EVER BEEN A TIME IN HISTORY THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS? NOT IN THE LAST TEN YEARS. NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN AT THE CONVENTION CENTER? SINCE 2018.
WE ALSO HAVE VISIT DALLAS THAT HAS BOOKED ALREADY.
60 FOR PRE-BOOKED CONVENTIONS. AND THESE AREN'T LITTLE BITTY TINY CONVENTIONS.
THESE ARE BIG CONVENTIONS LIKE WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
LIKE BIG REVENUE CONVENTIONS. WAS THAT WAS I ACCURATE WHAT I HEARD EARLIER? THAT'S CORRECT. AND I ALSO READ ON THAT SLIDE THAT THIS IS THE 60 FOR PRE-BOOKED CONVENTIONS HAVE A $1.05 BILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT. WAS I CORRECT IN WHAT I READ? YEAH, THAT'S THE DIRECT SPEND AND 1.66 BILLION ON TOTAL ECONOMIC IMPACT.
WOW. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAW THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES MY EYES GET A LITTLE FUZZY AND BLURRY AND, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING SAID HERE, KIND OF FORGETTING THAT THAT SLIDE IS ON THE WAS IN THE PRESENTATION.
WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITY OUTREACH, THANK YOU ALL.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO FORGOT THAT THERE WERE I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER THE TOTAL NUMBER, BUT WELL OVER 300 DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENGAGEMENTS WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WITH BUILDERS, DEVELOPERS AND ALL THAT NATURE.
AM I CORRECT IN THAT? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. IT WAS ABOUT 450 PLUS.
WONDERFUL. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THIS CONCEPT.
I TALKED ABOUT NUMBER 15 BEING SO EXCELLENT AND CORRECT.
AND WE'RE GETTING TO SEE THIS HERE. AND I MADE MY COMMENTS EARLIER ON THAT, AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SAY THIS IS THE BEST CONCEPT BECAUSE WHEN YOU START COMPARING CONCEPTS TOGETHER, THE BEST ALWAYS RISES TO THE TOP ON ITS OWN.
LIKE AS YOU START TO SCORE IT RIGHT, YOU START TO GO, OH, WE NEED THIS, WE NEED THAT.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK IF GUS CAN CARLY CAN COME BACK OUT.
OUR DOCTOR CAN CARLY. AND IT'S ABOUT THE STREETCAR.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STREETCAR WILL BE IN LINE AND TIMED WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER OPENING AND BEING BUILT, THAT WE CAN GET THIS DONE ON TIME AND ACCURATELY AS WELL.
AS FAR AS THE COMMITMENT TO BUILD IT, IT IS SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY.
FINANCIAL AVAILABILITY. AND NUMBER TWO IS THE ABILITY TO OPERATE AND GENERATE THE MODEL FOR THE OPERATION TO FUND THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE. VERY GOOD, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING.
I GET THAT PART. WHAT I GUESS I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE ARE WORKING IN TANDEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, THIS STREETCAR GETS DONE AND THERE'LL BE NO DELAY AS FAR AS WORKING ON GETTING THE THE CONCEPT COMPLETED AND FINISHED FOR US TO GET THIS DONE.
OKAY. VERY GOOD. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT UNDER THERE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT IT AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ON TIME.
AS FAR AS AS BEING IT BEING PART OF THIS PROJECT.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU DOCTOR. WHEN IT COMES TO THIS OVERALL BUDGET YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS ARE TRYING TO MAKE UP STORIES THAT THAT WE GAVE A BUDGET AT THE GET GO FROM THE BEGINNING.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'VE BEEN IN EVERY SINGLE MEETING.
I HAVEN'T MISSED A SINGLE CONVENTION CENTER, ANYTHING, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING, AS CHAIRMAN, WHEN YOU APPOINTED ME, THAT THIS WAS A MAJOR COMPONENT OF WHY I WAS ASSIGNED TO BECOME CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE. SO I HAVEN'T MISSED ANYTHING, AND NOT ONCE EVER THAT I CAN REMEMBER.
CITY MANAGER, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG OR, YOU KNOW, WAS THERE EVER A BUDGET GIVEN ON WHAT THE OVERALL COST OF THIS PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE? THERE WAS NOT. YEAH. NO, SIR. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER BECAUSE AND I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT ALL THE DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS,
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AND NOT ONCE DID I EVER SEE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO COST X AMOUNT OR THAT AMOUNT.WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT IT WAS GOING TO COST AT LEAST THIS, AND WE AREN'T SURE BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER IF YOU HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL CITY MANAGER OR YOU, I KNOW I DON'T WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN OUR CITY OR IN OUR COUNTRY WITH TARIFFS AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IS GOING ON THAT, WAS IN THERE.
DID YOU ALL HAVE THAT? BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER ME HAVING ONE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FOR THE QUESTION. AND THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO GO BACK.
SO WE'VE GONE BACK THROUGH. WE'VE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK THROUGH ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BOND, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF RHETORIC OUT THERE, AND WE THINK OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE TOTAL COST WOULD BE.
I'VE I'VE HEARD NUMBERS AROUND 4 BILLION. I'VE HEARD 3.7 BILLION.
BUT THOSE NUMBERS NEVER CAME DIRECTLY FROM STAFF AS THIS IS THE TOTAL PROJECT COST.
YOU'RE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE. I WAS GOING TO ASK, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR. WE'RE ON SECOND ROUND NOW. DO YOU WANT IT NOW? I DO NOT I WANT TO WAIT. OKAY. YOU WANT TO WAIT AND SEE? YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE ALL THAT OTHER GOOD INFORMATION YOU GET TO? I GET IT. SMART. SMART. OKAY, MISS WILLIS. ROUND TWO.
THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANTED TO GO TO SLIDE 16.
THE CONCEPT PLANNING MATRIX. AND SO THE BENT BAR PLAN NUMBER 15 IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE ARRIVED AT.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF BLUE BOXES AND ONE IS ON DART.
AND I KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AMPLIFIED OR WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT DART, AND HOW YOU COULD GET OFF OF THE DART TRAIN AND JUST WALK RIGHT INTO THE EXHIBIT HALL OR SOMETHING. BUT WHAT'S THE DISTINCTION HERE BETWEEN GOOD AND EXCELLENT? WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE IT EXCELLENT? WHAT'S GOT WHAT'S IN OUR WAY TO KEEP THAT'S KEEPING OUR TRANSIT CONNECTION TO THIS FROM BEING THE BEST IT CAN BE.
SO YEAH THIS IS A A GRADE THAT THAT GETS APPLIED.
YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN TO GET SUPPLIES. SO DON'T IT'S SO OUR AMBITION IS TO TURN SORT OF THE WORST STATION DART HAS IN THEIR SYSTEM IS THAT'S THAT'S ACCORDING TO JACK NOT DART.
BUT TURN IT INTO THE BEST. AND SO YOU'RE DELAYING SOMETHING AND HOW THE CONVENTION CENTER ALIGNS WITH THAT STATION. OKAY. IT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO FEEL.
SO WE THINK WE CAN GET TO. GREAT. BUT BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.
AND SO YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, PROTECT IT. YOU HAVE TO PLAN AROUND IT.
SO THIS IS A THIS IS A REAL GENERAL SCORING TAKING IN INTO ACCOUNT, REALLY THOSE TWO MAJOR THINGS.
BUT IN LOOKING AT THE CONFIGURATION HERE, AND IF THAT COMES TO FRUITION IN, YOU KNOW, A DECADE OR TWO HOW ARE WE SET UP FOR THAT AND LINKING TO, I MEAN, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD GO FROM THAT STATION TO DART.
THE DART STATION OR I MEAN, IS THAT CONSIDERATION STILL PART OF THIS? SO WITH HIGH SPEED RAIL, THERE'S SORT OF TWO CONSIDERATIONS.
HOW DOES THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF CONNECT WITH WITH THE HIGH SPEED RAIL.
AND THIS ONE, IT'S IT'S TERRIFIC. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO PROBLEM THAT WAY.
THE CONVENTION CENTER ACTUALLY COMES CLOSER TO WHERE THE HIGH SPEED RAIL STATION WOULD BE.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS REALLY THE THE WHOLE QUESTION YOU SPENT A YEAR AGO, MARCH 6TH ON, WHICH WAS DOES SHOULD THAT HIGH SPEED RAIL CONNECT THROUGH DOWNTOWN ALL THE WAY TO FORT WORTH OR NOT? COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME STUDYING THAT AND HAVE FOUND A WAY FOR IT TO MISS THE DOWNTOWN ENTIRELY.
YOU CAN SAY THAT'S GOOD OR BAD. WITH THIS STATION, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT NEGATIVELY OR POSITIVELY.
IT'S. IT'S OUT OF THE WAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU. SO, TODAY'S CONVENTION CENTER WIDELY REPORTED.
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I BELIEVE YOU HAD SHARED WITH US AT A BRIEFING THAT IT WOULD COST 500 TO 700 MILLION TO REPAIR IT.AND THAT WAS PART OF THE IMPETUS FOR THIS PROJECT.
CORRECT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO ALL THE TIME THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER IS OPERATING, YOU WERE PAYING OPERATING EXPENSES FOR SURE. YOU WERE PAYING DEBT.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S NOT JUST ROOFING ISSUES.
IT WAS THE CONNECTIVITY OF MAJOR SYSTEMS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE BUILDING.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING BACK DECADES, RIGHT? SO THIS IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT STARTED IN 2018.
THIS GOES BACK DECADES WHERE THE SYSTEMS DID NOT TALK TO EACH OTHER.
AND SO YOU HAD EXPENSES AND DECLINES IN VARIOUS PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING ON CHILLERS, ELEVATORS, ESCALATORS, THINGS THAT WERE NOT COMMUNICATING TO EACH OTHER OFF ONE SYSTEM.
AND SO THOSE COSTS ESCALATED. THERE WAS ROOFING COSTS.
THERE WAS OTHER LEAKAGE AND PENETRATION INTO THE BUILDING, FROM PREVIOUS THINGS FLOORING ISSUES.
THERE WAS A MYRIAD OF THINGS. WE DID A PRESENTATION ABOUT IT.
YES. AND I RECALL THAT. AND USUALLY IN A BUILDING LIKE THIS, YOU WOULD START ACCRUING TO REPLACE THINGS LIKE THE ESCALATOR AND THE ELEVATORS AND THINGS THAT WE KNOW, CHILLERS THAT HAVE A LIMITED LIFESPAN.
WAS THAT DONE? TO MY KNOWLEDGE. BUT STARTING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I GOT THERE IN LATE 2017.
NO, BUT SO THAT IS PART OF THE PLAN WITH THIS BUILDING.
AND SOMETHING THAT I'VE TALKED TO WITH THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS IS TO HOW DO WE SET UP A MAINTENANCE RESERVE SO THAT IT'S FUTURE PROOFED AND WE'RE NOT VISITING THIS AGAIN? AND WHAT WAS THE ACCOUNT BALANCE THAT YOU HAD IN MAINTENANCE RESERVE BEFORE THE BREMER BILL, BEFORE YOU WERE ABLE TO START COLLECTING THIS? WELL, THE BREMER BILL DOESN'T INCLUDE THE.
AND IT JUST IT AVERAGE DEPENDED ON ON THE YEAR.
I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND. LOOK, I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU A NUMBER THAT'S INCORRECT, BUT IT WAS INSUFFICIENT TO ACCOMPLISH REPLACING THE ESCALATORS, THE ELEVATORS, THE ROOFING AND ALL THESE OTHER.
ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND WE HAD THIS SAME CONVERSATION AT MULTIPLE BRIEFINGS THAT THE INCOME THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER WAS GENERATING DID NOT MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE THREE BUCKETS.
RIGHT. IT PAID OPERATIONS. OBVIOUSLY, THE PEOPLE HAD TO BE PAID.
FOOD HAD TO BE PAID. IT PAID THE DEBT SERVICE.
WELL, I THINK THAT THAT'S ONLY PARTIALLY ACCURATE.
I THINK THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT COMPOUNDED PROBLEMS OVER A LONG TERM.
YES, BUT WHAT WE STARTED TO DEVELOP BEFORE WE GOT TO THE FACT THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO AN EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER WAS A PLAN THAT I WORKED OUT WITH THEN SPECTRA TO SAY, HEY, HOW DO WE FIX THIS BUILDING IN PHASES IF THAT IS WHERE WE ARE, ARE LEFT, RIGHT. AND SO IT WAS TAKING APART, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THE ESCALATORS WOULD COST, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN A LONG TIME TO DO ALL OF THAT, GIVEN THE NUMBER.
AND SOMETHING ELSE WOULD HAVE DECLINED IN THE INTERIM. RIGHT. AS WE AS WE DID THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT THAT HAPPENED.
YES, BUT IN THE IN THE INTERIM, SOMETHING ELSE WOULD DECLINE, RIGHT? SO THERE WERE THERE WERE NOT APPROPRIATE REVENUES TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDING.
I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT. BUT WHAT WE'RE TEARING DOWN IS 50 YEARS OLD.
IT'S IT'S NOT EVEN THAT OLD. AND WE DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF IT.
AND THIS IS A LESSON WE HAVE TO LEARN SO THAT WE DON'T KEEP REPEATING IT BECAUSE WE ARE REPEATING IT IN BUILDING AFTER BUILDING, AND WE HAVE TO BUDGET TO TAKE CARE OF THESE SYSTEMS BEFORE THEY FAIL.
AND THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE UP SOME OTHER STUFF.
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HOTEL AND THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF. AND SO I'M I'M CONCERNED WITH HOW WE'RE MANAGING OUR DOLLARS AND OUR ASSETS.AND THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. AND IT'S NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP.
AND PLEASE DON'T HEAR THAT. NO. AND THAT'S I'M NOT.
BUT IT IS ABOUT HOW WE AS A CITY COUNCIL ARE, ARE SPENDING OUR MONEY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
AND DEFINITELY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, I CANNOT ERASE THE PAST.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE THROUGH NOT ONLY THIS PROJECT, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER WAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR ASSETS, EVEN WHAT WE DID WITH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND HOW WE'RE TREATING EVEN PREVENTATIVE MEASURES IN THE BUDGET, WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE BRIEFING LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
IT'S REALLY BEEN AN INTENTIONAL ACT FOR US TO BEGIN TO CHANGE THE WAY WE'VE DONE BUSINESS.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROTECTION OF OUR ASSETS, THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF OUR ASSETS.
AND WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT BRINGING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL SOME ADDITIONAL POLICY CONSIDERATIONS.
SO YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE BRIEFING LATER TODAY.
BUT DEFINITELY I THINK THAT THAT THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE.
AND WE HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO NOT DO, THAT IT'S GOT TO BE A PART.
IF YOU EVEN LOOK AT EVEN THE BOND PROGRAMS, THE BOND PROGRAM AND SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AND SOME OF THE NEW THINGS THAT WE'RE BUILDING, WE'VE GOT TO BUILD INTO OUR OPERATING DOLLARS HOW WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THOSE ASSETS.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR.
WE'RE LISTENING. AND YOU WILL BEGIN TO SEE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS BECAUSE BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND THIS TEAM IS DOING SO AS WELL WITH THE DELIVERY OF THIS CONVENTION CENTER MASTER PLAN.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. DID YOU WANT TO ROLL INTO ROUND THREE FOR A MINUTE BEFORE I MOVE ON? NO. OKAY. THEN WE ARE. I THINK WE ARE STILL AROUND.
TWO FOR FOR CHAIRMAN. NARVAEZ. AND THEN WE'LL BE IN ROUND THREE FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND I'M SO GLAD THAT WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THAT JUST A SECOND AGO AND GOT TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE AS THE BRIEFINGS I'VE BEEN WITNESSING AND BEEN PART OF AND HEARD AND PAID ATTENTION TO WHEN I'M HERE, NOT EVERYBODY'S ALWAYS HERE ALL THE TIME.
BUT I CAN DEFINITELY SAY THAT THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP MANY A TIME BY THE CITY MANAGER, BY YOU, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FUND WILL BE PRODUCED AND PRESENTED IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE PROPER MAINTENANCE, THIS BUILDING. I BELIEVE THE I BELIEVE THE BEATLES PLAYED NEXT DOOR AT ONE POINT.
IS IT REALLY EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE THINGS THAT ARE 40 TO 60 TO 70 YEARS OLD? YES. SOURCING THEM IS OFTEN THE FIRST PROBLEM.
AND THEN THE PAYMENT FOR THEM IS ANOTHER. AND WHY IS THAT? IS THAT BECAUSE THE PARTS DON'T EXIST TO REPAIR IT OR THAT, YOU KNOW, NOBODY HAS A 70 YEAR OLD ESCALATOR? YES. IN MOST CASES. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE THE ENTIRE COMPONENT.
AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT, THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE.
YES. YOU HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO CURRENT CODE.
AND SO IS CODE EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT IT WAS IN THE 1970S? 80S 90S 2000 AS IT IS TODAY IN 2025. ABSOLUTELY NOT.
OH, WOW. OKAY. I WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO.
IT'S EASY TO THROW A WRECKING BALL AT SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES AND ORANGES TO ORANGES, AND YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE A CANTALOUPE AND PUT IT UP AGAINST A WATERMELON.
IT'S JUST NOT. IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE. MR. MAYOR YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALSO WHAT'S UNFAIR IN THIS, IN THIS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE AND QUESTIONS BEING ASKED IS IT'S TAKING A SNAPSHOT OF TIME WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN BUILT OVER FROM THE 50S TO THE 60S TO THE 70S TO THE 80S TO THE 90S, 2000 TO 10, 2020S.
AND YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY, OH, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE DID.
THERE ARE SOME WHO ENJOY LIVING IN THE PAST AND WANT THINGS TO STAY AS THEY WERE IN THE PAST.
I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE FOLKS. I'M ONE OF THOSE FOLKS WHO LIKE MY MY CONSTITUENTS, MR. MAYOR, AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CITY. THEY WANT TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD.
THEY WANT TO SEE US GET THINGS DONE AND ACCOMPLISHED.
AND I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THE EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, MR. MAYOR, THAT WE'VE PAID ATTENTION TO MAINTENANCE AND PAID ATTENTION TO NOT BUILDING BRAND NEW SHINY THINGS THAT WE CAN'T PAY FOR OR MAINTAIN.
AND THAT'S A BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE THAN WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST BEFORE ANYBODY WAS ON THIS COUNCIL.
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THINGS WERE VERY DIFFERENT IN THIS CITY AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT.AND WITH THIS, THIS PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO BE PAID FOR.
WELL, 14 OF US WORKED VERY HARD ON TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENED.
AND WE ARE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH THIS. THIS HAS NOT BEEN SET UP, MR. MAYOR, TO SET UP TO FAIL. THIS HAS BEEN SET UP TO SUCCEED.
AND THE BENEFIT TO OUR CITY IS GOING TO BE ASTRONOMICAL.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU WANT THE MINUTE OR NOT YET? ALL RIGHT. OKAY, THEN. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.
THANK YOU. SO I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE STREETCAR AS GUS AVAILABLE.
OR WHOEVER. YOU WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
YES, MA'AM. GUS IS COMING. THANK YOU. MR. MATTHEWS CAN BE EXCUSED.
SO TODAY WE FUND HOW MUCH MONEY? OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND TO PAY FOR THE STREETCAR.
SO IT'S ABOUT 2.3 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
AND HAVE YOU IDENTIFIED FUNDING TO PAY FOR STREETCAR EXPANSION? NOT YET, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME FUNDS THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE FOR THE OMNI EXTENSION.
AND IS THAT TO BUILD IT OR IS THAT TO OPERATE IT? TO BUILD IT. BUT IT'S PARTIAL NOT FULL. SO PARTIALLY TO BUILD.
AND SO HOW WOULD WE PAY FOR IT ANNUALLY IF IT HAPPENED.
AS FAR AS THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE IS CONCERNED.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE EXERCISE RIGHT NOW OF COMING UP WITH MODELS THAT WOULD OR COULD BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO GENERATE THE NECESSARY FUNDS OR MOST OF THE NECESSARY FUNDS TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM, BOTH THE EXISTING AND ANY FUTURE EXPANSION. AND JACK, ON THE DEBT SIDE, IS THERE ANY ENVISIONING THAT ANY OF THIS FINANCING WOULD GO TOWARDS A STREETCAR THAT WOULD GO IN FRONT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER? SO I'M DEFERRING THAT ACTUALLY TO ROSE AS FAR AS IF IT'S BUILT INTO THE PROJECT EXPENSE.
NO, IT IS NOT. WE DID SOME VISIONING DURING THE MASTER PLAN, AND IN THE DOCUMENTS WE TALK ABOUT FIGURING OUT A PATH TO SPLIT THAT WITH THE PRIVATE ENTITIES IN FRONT OF WHOSE BUSINESSES THAT STREETCAR RUNS.
BECAUSE THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS REALLY THE TRACTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET IN THEIR BUSINESSES.
WE'VE NOT GOT THAT FAR. BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WAITING FOR THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, WAITING FOR SOME POLICY DECISIONS OR WHETHER OR NOT THE STREETCAR WAS GOING TO GO THAT DIRECTION, ETC., TO START TO EXPLORE THAT OPTION. AND SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OPERATIONAL FINANCIAL REPORTS, WOULD YOU ENVISION THAT YOU'LL HAVE OPERATIONAL FUNDS THAT COULD BE DEDICATED TOWARDS OPERATING THE STREETCAR THAT GOES IN FRONT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER? SO I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ALLOWABLE USES FOR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.
RIGHT. AND SOME OF THE OTHER TAXES THAT WE USE IN THE BUILDING BEFORE I WOULD EVEN VENTURE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, SIMPLY BECAUSE, ONE, WE'D BE PAYING DEBT SERVICE, AND TWO, WE'RE STILL BECAUSE WE'RE IN SCHEMATICS AND NOT YET ENGAGED WITH FUTURE CONTRACTORS AND VENDORS. WHO WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WOULD GIVE US THE OPERATIONAL COST FOR A BUILDING THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
I'D HAVE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WORK WE'D HAVE TO DO, A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK. AND IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE A TRANSIT ORIENTED TAX OVERLAY THAT WOULD FUND THIS? SOME OF THESE IDEAS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WHEN WE PRESENTED THE CURRENT OPTIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND INCLUDES A TABLE.
AND WE PRESENTED WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, INCLUDES SOME OF THESE IDEAS.
AND WE WILL DEFINITELY COME BACK AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE RESEARCH ADVANCES.
THANK YOU. SO I ONLY HAVE EIGHT SECONDS LEFT, SO I'M GOING TO SKIP MY LAST QUESTION.
I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN THE MEMO TO YOU. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. MISS WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE AS WELL.
MY EXPECTATION IS THAT IT WILL PAY FOR ITSELF.
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NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING TO AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE THAT MAY BE THE CASE, BUT NOT FOR THIS.AND I THINK THAT AS WE LOOK BACK AND INSTEAD OF MAKING YOU GO THROUGH FILES THROUGH THE SANDS OF TIME, I SUSPECT THAT IT WAS NOT ONLY MOUNTING DEFERRED DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, BUT ALSO OBSOLESCENCE.
I MEAN, WE HEARD ABOUT MEETING ROOMS SPREAD ACROSS SIX CITY BLOCKS AND HOW WE'RE CONDENSING THAT AND ABOUT HOW WE DIDN'T HAVE EXHIBIT SPACE THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO THE CONVENTIONS AND NEEDS OF TODAY. AND SO THIS THING WAS GETTING OUTDATED AND NOT AS ATTRACTIVE.
AND SO THAT'S WRONG. BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PART OF THE EQUATION.
OPERATING, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A DESIRABLE LOCATION TO, TO COME TO.
ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK WHAT WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT IS THE FACT THAT WE'LL HAVE WARRANTIES ON MUCH OF THIS TRACKING THAT WARRANTIES WILL BE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, OUR OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T VIOLATE OR DO ANYTHING THAT MESSES UP ANY OF THOSE WARRANTIES AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT AS WE WORK WITH WITH JACK AND NOAH AND STEVE, THAT WE SET UP THAT MAINTENANCE RESERVE RIGHT ON ALL OF THESE PIECES. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST SIMPLE ACCRUING IT.
I MEAN, ALL OF THE THESE, THE EQUIPMENT, ALL OF THIS.
SO, I MEAN, I WOULD I THINK WE'RE IN A NEW DAY OF THAT, MISS CITY MANAGER.
UNDER UNDER YOUR GUIDANCE, BUT THAT DEFINITELY IS AN EXPECTATION THAT WE SHOULD HAVE.
SO WE DON'T IN 50 YEARS HAVE PEOPLE CURSING OUR NAMES OVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MR.. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I KNOW IT'S WAY PAST LUNCHTIME, SO I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS BRIEF.
BUT ON THAT NOTE, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS PROJECT IS LIKE A SLOW COOKED BRISKET.
IT TAKES IT TAKES TIME, PLANNING AND THE RIGHT INGREDIENTS.
BUT WHEN IT'S DONE RIGHT, IT'LL BE WORTH THE WAIT.
BUT A NEW CONVENTION CENTER ISN'T JUST ABOUT ATTRACTING MORE EVENTS.
AS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF A DISTRICT IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY, NOT JUST THE CLOSEST TO DOWNTOWN, SHARING THE IN THE JOBS, CONTRACTS AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BRING.
I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE COLLABORATION AND MOMENTUM THAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR, AND I SEE THIS AS A POWERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO POSITION DALLAS AS THE PREMIER DESTINATION FOR BUSINESS, TOURISM AND CULTURE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD AND TO SUPPORTING ITS CONTINUED PROGRESS.
THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU. JAIME RESENDEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DISTRICT FIVE.
I'D BE OVER FOR THE ADA THIS WEEKEND. AND EXPECT THAT BRISKET.
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CONNECTIVITY, CONNECTIVITY, CONNECTIVITY SINCE I BECAME CHAIR OF TRANSPORTATION, MR. MAYOR. THIS PROJECT DOES EXACTLY THAT IN ALL ASPECTS IN DOWNTOWN CONNECTIVITY TO THE OUTSIDE PERIMETER.
CONNECTIVITY REQUESTS TO CONNECT TO DFW AIRPORT AND DALLAS LOVE FIELD HAVE BEEN MADE.
VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS ONCE SAID THAT IT TAKES A WHOLE LOT OF ENERGY TO BUILD SOMETHING, AND VERY LITTLE TO TEAR IT DOWN. I'M EXCITED THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ALL OUR PARTNERS ARE WORKING REALLY HARD AND PUTTING A LOT OF ENERGY TO BUILD SOMETHING. MR. MAYOR, LET'S BUILD IT.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO WHO HASN'T SPOKEN YET OR HASN'T SPOKEN ALL OF THE ROUNDS THAT WANTS TO GET A QUESTION OR COMMENT IN BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE. AND SO MADAM CITY MANAGER, I'LL LET YOU DISMISS YOUR PANEL IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE FINISHED.
AND THEN I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A LUNCH BREAK.
I SUPPOSE IF YES, WE ARE DONE WITH THE WILL, WE'RE DONE WITH ITEM A, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY BREAK MR. MAYOR AND COME BACK AFTER LUNCH. WELL, THIS AFTERNOON FOR ITEM B.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S COME BACK AT 230. ALL RIGHT.
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ARE WE. ARE WE LIVE ON TV? OKAY, GOOD. SO THE THE TIME IS 304 AND THE MEETING IS NOW BACK IN SESSION.[B. 25-1678A 2028 Airline Use & Lease Agreement at Dallas Love Field]
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. SO THE NEXT BRIEFING WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE QUESTIONS BECAUSE THIS IS A BRIEFING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED AT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. IT'S ON THE 2028 AIRLINE USE AND LEASE AGREEMENT AT DALLAS LOVE FIELD.WE HAVE SECURED A LONG TERM LEASE AGREEMENT THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2040 WITH SOUTHWEST AIRLINES AND DELTA AT DALLAS LOVE FIELD, BRINGING A LONG TERM CERTAINTY TO THE AIRPORT AS WE BEGIN TO EMBARK UPON OUR MAJOR CAPITAL PROGRAM.
AND IN ADDITION, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE MEMBERS OF OUR CONSULTANT TEAM WHO HAVE WORKED WITH US OVER THESE LAST FEW MONTHS TO BRING US TO TODAY'S TRULY A PARTNERSHIP AND A COLLABORATION.
I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, ALL THE MEMBERS OF HER TEAM.
AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY, BUT DEFINITELY JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
THIS ITEM WILL BE ON YOUR VOTING AGENDA FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY, MAY THE 28TH.
SO WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO WALK THROUGH THE SLIDES. WE JUST WANTED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. YOU HEARD HER. WE'RE READY TO.
GO. PRESENTATION. YES, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC. WE ARE ON ITEM B AND WE ARE GOING STRAIGHT TO QUESTIONS FROM MEMBERS.
WHAT? CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I'LL HAVE DIRECTOR KARINA. GO AHEAD. PATRICK.
THANK YOU. PATRICK MORENO, DIRECTOR OF AVIATION COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.
THAT THE GATE ALLOCATION, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WHAT WE DO IS WE'VE AGREED ON WHAT WE CALL PREFERENTIAL GATES.
THAT SOUTHWEST AND DELTA WILL HAVE. AND THEN IN 2028, WHEN THIS PART OF THE AGREEMENT GOES INTO EFFECT, THERE'S NO LONGER ALASKA AIRLINES. SO THERE'S A GATE THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER COMMON USE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WILL CONTROL.
AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE EXISTING AIRLINES FOR ACCESS TO THAT.
WE HAVE AN ALLOCATION METHODOLOGY IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT ON HOW WE ASSIGN SLOTS TO THAT GATE.
AND WE WILL ALSO LOOK AT IF THERE'S NEW ENTRANTS THAT ARE LOOKING TO GET SLOTS TO THAT GATE.
AS WELL, THERE'S A FORMULA THAT GUIDES US ON WHO GETS THAT ALLOCATION.
SO WOULD A NEW ENTRANT HAVE SOME KIND OF PREFERENCE OVER THE LEGACY AIRLINES? YES. SO TYPICALLY HOW IT WOULD WORK? THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT TO THIS, BUT ESSENTIALLY WITH SOUTHWEST HAVING THE 18 THEY WOULD HAVE RIGHTS TO IT, BUT NEW ENTRANTS WOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME OF THE PRIORITIES TO GETTING THAT FOR THE COMPETITION. AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY HOW IT WOULD WORK.
WILL WILL KNOW THAT MORE IN A FEW YEARS. OKAY.
ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE SEVEN, IN A RELATED PROVISION, THE SECOND BULLET SAYS A GATE EXPANSION IN FORMULA WITH THE ABILITY OF AVIATION TO HAVE GATES TO AT LEAST TWO AIRLINES. SHOULD FEDERAL LAW CHANGE, HOW WILL A CHANGE IN FEDERAL LAW TRIGGER A CHANGE IN THE FORMULA FOR GATE USAGE? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
HOW THIS WOULD WORK IS THIS AGREEMENT DOES GO TO 2040.
WE ARE IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TERMINAL FORECAST, WE ARE BECOMING VERY CONSTRAINED TO A POINT WHERE OUR PARTNERS, PARTICULARLY SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, GET VERY CREATIVE OF HOW MANY PASSENGERS WE CAN RUN OUT OF THE AIRPORT.
WE HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST GATE UTILIZATION IN THE WORLD.
SO WE ENVISIONED OVER TOWARDS, ESPECIALLY TOWARDS THE END OF THE DECADE, THAT WE ESSENTIALLY BE CAPPED ON HOW MANY PASSENGERS WE CAN PHYSICALLY GET THROUGH THE BUILDING. SO THERE IS A FEDERAL LAW THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WITH THE WRIGHT AMENDMENT REFORM ACT AND THE FIVE PARTY AGREEMENT.
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SO SHOULD THAT CHANGE? AND THE AVIATION DEPARTMENT'S NOT GOING TO LEAD THAT.THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE A REPEAL OF AN ACT OF CONGRESS IF THAT DID CHANGE AND THE AIRPORT WAS TO GROW.
THERE'S AN ALLOCATION IN THERE IN A CAPITAL CAPITAL DOLLARS THAT COULD BE SPENT FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE GATES AND HOW WE WOULD ALLOCATE THEM TO THE EXISTING CARRIERS AND NEW ENTRANTS.
CORRECT. SO THIS NOTHING HAPPENS WITH THIS UNLESS FEDERAL LAW CHANGES.
AND COULD YOU DESCRIBE THE VOLUNTARY NOISE CURFEW REPORTING MECHANISM? SURE. THIS ONE THE VOLUNTARY NOISE CURFEW. WE AS THIS COUNCIL KNOWS, WE'VE WORKED A LOT WITH THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS.
WE HAVE A STAKEHOLDER GROUP WE WORKED WITH SEVERAL YEARS TO CREATE NEW MEASURES.
WE'VE CONTINUED TO IMPLEMENT THOSE 14 MEASURES.
WE'LL CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT YEAR WITH SOME NEW STUDIES.
ONE OF THESE IS WE HAD HEARD BACK ABOUT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE.
SO WHAT WE'VE WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE PUT A REPORTING MECHANISM THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF AVIATION WE HAVE A NOISE TEAM, WE HAVE A NOISE SOFTWARE PROGRAM. WE'LL GENERATE REPORTING GIVE THAT REPORT TO THE AIRLINES ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND, AND REVIEW IT. WE CAN'T, BY FEDERAL LAW, ENFORCE IT, BUT WE FELT THIS WAS ANOTHER LEVEL OF OF SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO TO PARTNER WITH THEM. AND THE AIRLINES DO MAKE A REALLY GOOD EFFORT TO FOLLOW THE VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.
THEY'RE ALMOST 99% THROUGHOUT THE YEAR OF FOLLOWING THAT PROGRAM.
AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO TO DO.
SO IT'S A WAY OF PRIZING THE AIRLINES OF WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE A CURFEW.
THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THAT THAT WE CAN IMPOSE, BUT AT LEAST IT BRINGS IT TO THEIR ATTENTION.
IS THAT THE IDEA BEHIND IT? CORRECT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS IS EXPAND THE COMMUNICATION.
AND WE'VE DONE THIS WITH THE VOLUNTARY NOISE PROGRAM.
IS THERE ARE PARTNERS? THEY HAVE A BIG THE AIRLINES HAVE A BIG PART OF WHAT WE DO AT LOVE FIELD, AND THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US. SO THIS IS EXPANDING ON THAT PARTNERSHIP AND OPENING THAT LINE OF COMMUNICATION.
THEY DO PUT A LOT OF EFFORT IN TO TRY TO FOLLOW THE VOLUNTARY CURFEW AND RESPECT THAT.
GREAT. AND FINALLY, ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE EIGHT, THE FOURTH BULLET TALKS ABOUT A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE FOR THE AIRLINE RELATED PROJECT CONSTRUCTION COSTS AT $800 MILLION. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THAT? HOW THAT WORKS IS. SO THIS IS THESE PROJECTS ARE PART OF THE WHAT WE CALL THE LEAP PROGRAM.
THIS IS FOR AIRLINE COST CENTERS. SO THE RATES AND CHARGES, THE LANDING FEES, THE FEES THAT THE AIRLINES PAY TO OPERATE AT THE AIRPORT IT'S COMING OUT OF THAT BUCKET OF MONEY. AND HOW THIS WILL WORK IS THERE'LL BE OTHER COMPONENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK IN AUGUST WITH THE FULL PROGRAM OUTSIDE OF THIS SCOPE, OUTSIDE THE AIRLINE COST CENTER WITH THE FULL PROGRAM.
AND WE WILL ISSUE DEBT, WHICH WE HAVE NOW DONE BEFORE, WHICH IS GENERAL AIRPORT REVENUE BONDS.
THEY'RE BACKED BY THE REVENUE THAT THE ENTERPRISE FUND GENERATES.
AND THAT'S HOW WE'LL FUND THIS PROGRAM. SO THE AIRLINES DON'T DIRECTLY CONTRIBUTE TO THAT SUM.
IT ALL COMES OUT OF YOUR ENTERPRISE FUND. THAT'S CORRECT.
SO WHAT THE AIRLINES DO AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT AND WHY WE HAVE THIS PARTNERSHIP.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO WANT A COST PER ENPLANEMENT THAT'S AT A LEVEL THAT WE'VE MODELED, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO MAINTAIN THEIR BUSINESS TO TO KEEP THAT COST PER EMPLOYMENT LOW. SO IT BEHOOVES THEM TO SIGN THIS AGREEMENT.
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AND THE REVENUE BONDS THAT YOU WOULD ISSUE TO COVER THIS COST WILL NOT DECREASE THE BONDING CAPACITY OF THE CITY THAT WE ARE USING, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.NOT PARTICULARLY THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE GENERAL CREDIT OF THE CITY.
OKAY. AND THEN FINALLY, CAN YOU BRIEFLY EXPLAIN WHY THIS FINANCING IS DONE THE WAY YOU'VE DESCRIBED IT COMING OUT OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WE DO AT DFW, WHERE AMERICAN AIRLINES IS PAYING MOST OF THE COST, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, OF THEIR NEW TERMINAL. SURE.
IT'S NOT ALL AMERICAN IS BACKSTOPPING IT? THEY'RE THE HUB CARRIER.
WE'RE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE SOUTHWEST AIRLINES THEY'RE GOING TO BE A BIG PART OF OUR AIRPORT.
THEY'RE 96% OF OUR BUSINESS, AND THEY'LL CONTINUE THAT WAY.
AND THEY'RE USING THAT HUB TO TRANSFER PASSENGERS.
SO WE LOOK AT IT AS MORE OF AN ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AIRPORT.
AND THE BUSINESS IS THERE. THE AIRPORT HAS THE REVENUE TO DO THIS.
WE PARTNER VERY MUCH WITH SOUTHWEST. BUT I THINK IF YOU ASK SOUTHWEST, THEY LIKE THIS MODEL AS WELL.
THEY DO THIS AT OTHER AIRPORTS AS WELL. THIS IS A COMMON PRACTICE.
AND AND IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO WHAT WE THINK IS BEST FOR THE ASSET, AND IT GIVES SOUTHWEST SOME ASSURANCE THAT THEY KNOW THE OPERATING ENVIRONMENT THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN, AND IT KEEPS THE DEBT OFF THEIR BALANCE SHEET.
THAT'S CORRECT. BUT LIKE I SAID, THE GENERAL AIRPORT REVENUE BONDS OUTSIDE OF A HUB.
SO OUTSIDE OF A DFW ATLANTA WITH DELTA, THESE ARE VERY COMMON PRACTICES.
AND WE HAVE I WOULD ANTICIPATE WE HAVE A VERY STRONG AIR SERVICE MARKET.
WE HAVE A MARKET FOR 40 MILLION PASSENGERS, AND WE CAN ONLY ACCOMMODATE 23 TO 24 MILLION.
SO I THINK THE THE MARKET WILL SEE THAT WHEN WE GO OUT THERE, WE WILL GET A VERY FAIR, FAVORABLE RATE, I THINK. AND I THINK SOUTHWEST. WHAT IS KEY TO THIS IS WE REALLY WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM ON THE MODELING FOR THE FINANCE AND THE COST PER ENPLANEMENT STILL KEEPING THAT LOW. THERE'S THERE'S CONSTRAINED AIRPORTS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
UP IN THE NEW YORK AREA, THE DC AREA, THEIR COST PER ENPLANEMENTS ARE IN THE VERY HIGH 50, 60, $70 RANGE. OUR COST PER ENPLANEMENTS GOING TO BE IN THE MID TEENS THROUGH THE LIFE OF THIS.
SO WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. WE HAVE A VERY STRONG MARKET.
WE HAVE A VERY STRONG CARRIER THAT IS OUR HOMETOWN CARRIER.
THEY'RE COMMITTED TO THIS MARKET. AND THIS IS A VERY GOOD PROJECT FOR US.
CORRECT. THESE ARE THESE ARE NET COSTS, WE WOULD SAY.
SO PARKING GARAGES, ROADWAYS, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WILL RETURN TO THE COUNCIL WITHIN AUGUST.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE FULL PROGRAM. A CONSOLIDATED RENTAL CAR FACILITY.
THE AIRPORT DOES NEED SOME WORK. AND AND SOUTHWEST AND US IDENTIFIED THAT WORK.
WE'RE READY TO GET THAT STARTED. AND THEN THESE OTHER PROJECTS WILL COME ALONG AFTER THE TERMINAL PROGRAM GETS GOING, ARE THERE ESCALATORS FOR THE RENT RATE BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT, GIVEN IT'S LONG TERM? SO WE WE SET THE RATES AND CHARGES BY EVERY YEAR.
WE HAVE WHAT WE WOULD CALL A RESIDUAL MODEL WHERE WE DO A COST SHARE WITH THE AIRLINES, WHERE IT'S 75% OF THE REVENUE FROM THE PARKING SHARED. SO IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY SOUTHWEST.
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SO THEY BENEFIT IF WE DO WELL AND WE HAVE A GOOD YEAR IF WE STRUGGLED.THEY'RE THEY'RE HAVING TO TO MAKE UP THAT GAP.
AND IT WORKS WELL FOR SOUTHWEST. THANK YOU MAYOR.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES? WE'RE ON ITEM B.
THIS IS A VERY GOOD DEAL BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS, LOVE FIELD AND SOUTHWEST AIRLINES.
AND THERE'S NO ONE BIGGER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF US.
SO TO HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM FOR DECADES, THIS ISN'T JUST A SHORT TERM PARTNERSHIP.
AND THEY CONTINUE ON. AND IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE.
THE VOLUNTARY NOISE CURFEW DOES WORK 90. IT'S LIKE ABOUT 99%, YOU KNOW, ON BOARD.
IT'S A HARD WHEN PLANES ARE DELAYED OR THERE'S WEATHER, STORMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE HOME AND OR WE WANT TO GET THEM HERE TO DALLAS AT ALL COSTS.
RIGHT? BECAUSE NOBODY LIKES TO BE STUCK IN ANOTHER CITY FOR AN EXTRA DAY, OR IF THEY WEREN'T PLANNING TO BE STUCK IN A TRANSFER CITY FOR A NIGHT THAT WASN'T PART OF THEIR PLANS. THE AIRPORT REVENUE BONDS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER BONDS THAT WE USE.
IT'S THEY'RE JUST DIFFERENT. THE AIRPORT, ONCE AGAIN, IS A ENTERPRISE FUND, SO IT PAYS FOR ITSELF.
AND AND IT DOES VERY WELL. MR. MAYOR, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS AND BEING CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP THROUGH 2040 WITH SOUTHWEST AIRLINES AND WITH DELTA BEING THERE AS WELL. DALLAS LOVE FIELD, THERE'S A REASON, MR. MAYOR, THAT DALLAS LOVE FIELD IS THE NUMBER ONE MEDIUM SIZED AIRPORT IN THE NATION.
BUT FOR NOW, BEFORE THEY SET LOVE FREE, I'M COOL WITH NUMBER ONE OF BEST MEDIUM SIZED AIRPORTS.
KEEP TURNING THOSE GATES SOUTHWEST. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. YOU ALL DO.
AND WE'VE GOT A GREAT PARTNERSHIP THERE, COLLEAGUES.
AND SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE DALLAS LOVE FIELD AIRPORT EMPLOYEES.
THEY'RE PHENOMENAL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MORENO.
YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM B. THANK YOU. MAYOR.
AND I WANT TO THANK OUR CITY MANAGER FOR CONTINUOUS TO TO MEET WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS ON THIS.
AS MENTIONED, LOVE FIELD AIRPORT IS ONE OF THE BEST THE BEST MIDSIZE AIRPORT.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CONTINUES BEING THAT TEN, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
AND IF THERE ARE DELAYS THAT PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WHILE THEY'RE AT THE AIRPORT.
AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO TAKING THIS AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
I THINK THE NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR.
MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM B.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO THANK PATRICK, BUT I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO YOU.
I WANT TO THANK HER ALSO. BUT ALSO THANK SOUTHWEST AIRLINES.
YOU KNOW, THE POINT IS, YOU ARE THE PARTNER HERE AND NO ONE.
THE CITY OF DALLAS IS A BLESSING TO HAVE SOUTHWEST AIRLINES HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND AND ONE THING THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE CITY BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE FLY INTO SOUTHWEST JUST TO COME TO DALLAS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE GOING TO THE SUBURBS. BUT THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING BEING HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND WHATEVER.
WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE DALLAS.
YOU DO MAKE DALLAS BETTER BECAUSE MANY OF THE RESIDENTS GO TO LOVE FIELD.
AND AND ALSO THANKS AGAIN FOR BRINGING YOU HERE.
THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM B.
THANK YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO JOIN IN THE CHOIR.
AND JUST THANKING YOU. AND MOSTLY BECAUSE SOUTHWEST IS DALLAS.
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THAT'S ALL I KNOW TO SAY. I WAS AROUND AND AND KNOW THIS SOUNDS KIND OF CRAZY, BUT WHEN THAT ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE AND YOU CAME OUT, IT WAS ALL ABOUT LOVE. AND AND YOU'RE RIGHT. MAYOR PRO TEM, IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT I CAN GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B, THE FIRST QUESTION IS, CAN I GO SOUTHWEST? I GOTTA GO TO LOVE FIELD.GET ON THE PLANE. GET IN THE CAR. COME ON BACK.
BUT I WANT TO JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT AND WE HAVE.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER. SOME LONG, SOME LONG ROUTES FROM MY FAMILY SIDE WITH SOUTHWEST AIRLINES AND EVEN FROM THE STANDPOINT OF BEING FROM THAT CLASSROOM BECAUSE OF THE THE MESSAGING THAT SOUTHWEST HAD AT THE TIME, IT WAS ALL ABOUT INVESTING BACK INTO THEIR EMPLOYEES. AND SO I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN I TAUGHT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TO ACTUALLY GO TOUR THE FACILITY.
AND IT WAS ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WEALTH OF THE MENTAL STATE, ALSO OF THOSE EMPLOYEES.
SO IT WAS ABOUT GIVING BACK SO THAT THEY COULD GIVE BACK TO TO THE CUSTOMERS.
SO I SPEAK AND YOU ALL DIDN'T SCRIPT THIS FOR ME.
THEY DIDN'T SCRIPT THAT FOR ME. THIS IS JUST JUST FIRSTHAND PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THAT WE STAND BEHIND.
I KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO THERE WAS SOMETHING OUT THERE ABOUT NOT WANTING THE OLD.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT WORK AS A CITY.
I THANK THEM EVERY OPPORTUNITY I GET OUT THERE IS ALWAYS STRESS FREE.
AND I THINK THEY'LL BE PROUD TO KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE STEADY ON YOUR GAME.
THANK YOU. AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE LOVE FOR DALLAS.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS? ON ITEM B, SEEING NONE. MADAM CITY MANAGER, IT'S YOUR SHOW.
WHAT ARE WE DOING NEXT? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. WE'RE GOING ON TO ITEM NUMBER C. WE PRESENTED THE HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN BUDGET FOR 2526 TO THE CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY
[C. 25-1679A FY 2025-26 HUD Consolidated Plan Budget: Discuss City Council Proposed Amendments]
AND BACK IN MAY, MAY 7TH, TO BE EXACT. AND SO TODAY WE JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT SINCE THAT TIME, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE BODY TO GET ANY AMENDMENTS.AND WE KNOW OF ONE TODAY. SO, MR. MAYOR, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU TO HAVE THAT AMENDMENT READ.
OKAY. SO I THINK I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. IS THERE ONE? YES, SIR. MR. MAYOR, I HAVE A I MOVED TO AMEND THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 PROPOSED HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN BUDGET BY CREATING A LINE ITEM FOR VIOLENCE INTERRUPTER PROGRAM AND MOVING 300,000 FROM THE DRIVERS OF POVERTY, FROM THE DRIVERS OF POVERTY LINE TO THIS NEW LINE ITEM.
OH, WELL, I DIDN'T SEE. I ONLY SAW ONE. I ONLY SAW ONE PERSON WHO ASKED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
SO IF WE NEED TO GO INTO A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, THEN WE NEED TO HOLD YOUR MOTION IN ABEYANCE, AND YOU CAN. NO ONE SECOND. IF SO, I WITHDRAW.
WITHDRAW TEMPORARILY. YEAH. OKAY. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO TAKE US INTO A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, IF THAT'S A MOTION THAT WE NEED? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION, WE HAVE TO MOVE THE CITY COUNCIL, GO INTO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO CONSIDER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
BUDGET. ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE. WE ARE IN A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE.
WE CANNOT TAKE ANY OFFICIAL ACTIONS. WE CAN OFFER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR STAFF IN THE FORM OF AMENDMENTS TO THE 20 2526 HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN BUDGET, AND THESE ARE ONLY RECOMMENDATIONS. HOWEVER, MOTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ARE AMENDMENTS, POINTS OF ORDER, APPEALS AND INQUIRIES. ROLL CALL VOTES AND BALLOT VOTES ARE NOT ALLOWED.
WE'LL USE CITY SEALS. IS THAT RIGHT? ARE WE GOING TO USE CITY SEALS TODAY? OH, OKAY. HERE THEY ARE. WE'RE GOING TO USE CITY SEALS TO SIGNAL YOUR SUPPORT OF AN AMENDMENT.
BUT A FORMAL VOTE WILL NOT BE TAKEN. AND THE USUAL FIVE, THREE ONE 20531 FORMAT WILL BE FOLLOWED.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU FOR A MOTION. CHAIRMAN GRACEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. NOW, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO AMEND FISCAL YEAR 2526 PROPOSED HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN BUDGET BY CREATING A LINE ITEM FOR A VIOLENCE INTERRUPTER PROGRAM AND
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MOVING 300,000 FROM THREE DRIVERS OF POVERTY TO THIS NEW LINE ITEM.IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION, CHAIRMAN GRACEY? YES. THANK YOU. FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. AND I'LL MAKE THIS VERY BRIEF, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING, PARTICULARLY WE'VE HAD A SHOOTING IN GLENDALE PARK, WE'VE HAD ALL OF THESE SHOOTINGS, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A NEED. AND WHILE WE CAN CELEBRATE THE CRIME, OVERALL CRIME STATISTICS GOING IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION, I THINK THE THIS THIS, THIS. SITUATION THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR YOUTH DESERVES SOME, SOME FUNDING AND SOME SERIOUS ATTENTION.
SO I'M REALLY MAKING THIS MOTION TO REALLY HELP YOU KNOW, AS WE RELATE TO DRIVERS OF POVERTY AS WELL AS REDUCING OUR CRIME, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY WANT TO JUST PUSH TO DO THIS. I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ALLOCATE FUNDING DIRECTLY TOWARD PROGRAMING THAT ADVANCES PUBLIC SAFETY, PARTICULARLY WITH A FOCUS ON YOUTH.
THIS WILL ENABLE THE CITY TO IMPLEMENT A DATA DRIVEN YOUTH SAFETY STRATEGY THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR BROADER PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITIES AND EMERGING GOALS WITHIN THE CITY'S YOUTH STRATEGIC PLAN. THIS TYPE OF INVESTMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT BEHIND THE DRIVERS OF POVERTY FUNDING CATEGORY.
THE CITY CAN PROACTIVELY ADDRESS ROOT CAUSES OF VIOLENCE.
FUNDING COULD BE USED TO CONTRACT WITH COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS TO SUPPORT INITIATIVES SUCH AS YOUTH RE-ENGAGEMENT, PROGRAMING, PARENT AND FAMILY SUPPORT SERVICES VICTIM SUPPORT PROGRAMS. THESE EFFORTS WILL BUILD ON EXISTING PARTNERSHIPS WITH ORGANIZATIONS, AND ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY CAN LEAD INTERNAL CAN LEVERAGE INTERNAL DATA.
SO THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT MOVING MONEY OVER THERE TO ADDRESS THIS, BUT IT'S ALSO ABOUT ESTABLISHING TRACKERS THAT WE CAN PROVE THAT THIS WORK IS THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE WITH THESE FUNDS IS ACTUALLY HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT.
SO WE'RE IN THE LAST PORTION OF IT, BUT IT'S STILL UNDERWAY.
IT'S STILL AN ACTIVE CONTRACT. SO WOULD WE PROCURE SOMEONE TO DO VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION ACTIVITY? SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH TO COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY FOR THE THE MOTION REGARDING THIS, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF THROUGH A GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AN ORGANIZATION BY THE NAME OF THE LONE STAR JUSTICE ALLIANCE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A YOUTH STRATEGIC PLAN TO REALLY ADDRESS A COMBINATION OF ISSUES, SOME OF WHICH INCLUDE HOW DO WE DEAL WITH SOME OF THE INTERRUPTIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO HOW DO WE GET MORE PROGRAMING SUPPORT FOR AFTER SCHOOL? I MEAN, IT'S A WHOLE FULLY, YOU KNOW, BAKED YOUTH PLAN.
SO WHAT WE WOULD ENVISION IF THIS MOTION CARRIES FORWARD, IS TO HAVE A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN WE BROUGHT UNITED WAY ON BOARD, AND THEY HELPED US WITH SOME OF THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE, AND THAT ORGANIZATION WOULD BECOME LIKE THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND THEN WORK WITH SOLICITING OTHER SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS THAT COULD THEN COME AND BASED ON THE PIECE THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY TAKE ON AND ACHIEVE FOR US, THEY WOULD THEN BECOME THE ADMINISTRATOR TO WORK WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS.
WHAT WE OFTEN FIND IS THOSE ORGANIZATIONS SOMETIMES NEED HELP IN HOW THEY DO THEIR REPORTING, HOW THEY ACTUALLY IDENTIFY WAYS TO COMPLETE THE PAPERWORK THAT'S NEEDED.
SO THIS WOULD GIVE THEM AN ORGANIZATION TO KIND OF BE THE BUFFER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO DO SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S WE WOULD WANT TO DO AN RFP TO GET THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEN THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR WOULD WORK WITH WHETHER IT'S 2 OR 3, I WOULDN'T KNOW THE NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS, BUT THEY WOULD DO THAT ON BEHALF OF YOUTH FOCUSED.
IT WOULD BE YOUTH FOCUSED, WITH THE OPPORTUNITIES TO EVEN CONNECT WITH OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BUT THEY WOULD BE DOING IT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. OKAY, SO THE VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS PIECE WOULD DEFINITELY BE A BIG PART OF THE WORK THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING. AND IS THIS CITYWIDE? THIS IS EXACTLY CITYWIDE. WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY, THEY WERE DEDICATED TO CERTAIN ZIP CODES. AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER ZIP CODES WHERE WE NEED THESE TYPES OF SERVICES.
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SO THIS WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY HAVE A BIGGER NET AND BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY COVER THE ENTIRE CITY VERSUS JUST A FEW ZIP CODES.OKAY, I'VE GOT BRONX LEVEL DENSITY AND VICKERY MEADOW AND A LOT OF YOUTH.
MY TIME WAS RUNNING DURING THE WHOLE TIME. I THINK SHE WAS TALKING.
SO I'M SO SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO TALK THAT LONG.
WELL, AND THEN IT STOPPED. AND THEN. SO I DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY WE'RE PLAYING IT, SO.
OKAY, WELL, I MEAN, I LOVE THIS PROGRAM. IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE I WISH IT COULD BE THE, YOU KNOW, BOTH SCENARIO BECAUSE I GOT A, YOU KNOW, I SERVE ON THE FINANCE ADMINISTRATION AND INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS ADVOCACY COMMITTEE AT NLC. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN A MEMO TODAY TO SIGN ON, TO WHICH I'M HAPPY TO SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET PROPOSAL, RECOMMENDING ELIMINATING THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM AND THE HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HITTING US WHERE IT HURTS.
AND SO I'M, YOU KNOW, I GET THE NEED FOR FOR BOTH SIDES OF THIS.
AND SO, MISS WILLIAMS, I'M JUST I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS WOULD BE PULLED FROM IS OUR DRIVERS OF POVERTY PROGRAM, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT REDUCING AND ELIMINATING BARRIERS TO WORK AND CHILDCARE THROUGH FINANCIAL EMPOWERMENT AND COACHING AND CLIENT ASSISTANCE.
AND SO, I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THESE HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU CHOOSE? I MEAN, THEY'RE BOTH NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THE WAY WE APPROACH IT, AND I DEFINITELY WILL GIVE CREDIT TO THE STAFF, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH THE DRIVERS OF POVERTY BUCKET IS THAT WE'VE HAD TO CONTINUE TO REIMAGINE THE TYPES OF SERVICES THAT WE TRULY BELIEVE ARE GOING TO HELP US TO DEAL WITH LIFTING PEOPLE OUT OF THOSE SITUATIONS.
AND SO THIS, I BELIEVE, JUST IN TALKING TO THE STAFF AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA, IT'S TRULY A WAY THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IN THAT LINE ITEM FOR DRIVERS OF POVERTY TO REALLY DELIVER SOME RESULTS.
WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING OUT, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING TO COUNCILWOMAN, STEWART, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I KNOW WE'VE DEALT WITH IN CERTAIN PARTS OF YOUR DISTRICT IS THAT IT'S THAT IT'S THAT IN-BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THEY'RE IN SCHOOL TO THE TIME THEY GO, THEY GO HOME. IF THERE'S WORKING PARENTS, WHAT ARE THEY DOING WHEN THEY'RE AT HOME ALONE? AND SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS TO CREATE A STRONGER ECOSYSTEM.
AND I THINK LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT DRIVERS OF POVERTY LENS WILL ALLOW FOR US TO DO IT.
AND SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PIT, YOU KNOW, CHILD CARE ASSISTANCE AGAINST THIS.
WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S A PART OF THE EQUATION. AND IF WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, I THINK SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN OUT THERE, I THINK WE CAN GET A BETTER, BETTER BANG FOR OUR INVESTMENT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HOW THIS CAN ROLL OUT.
WE WANTED TO START WITH AN AMOUNT THAT WE BELIEVE TRULY CAN HELP US GET GOING, AND THEN GIVE THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO LEVERAGE THEN THE PUBLIC DOLLARS AND BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR OTHER DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S REALLY A STEP FORWARD. AND WE'VE WE'VE SEEN SOME PROGRAMS AND SOME MODELS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE TRULY WORKING, AND WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE SUCCESSES.
WELL, I DON'T LOVE SEEING IN THE DECREASE OF $78,000 BECAUSE WHILE AROUND HERE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SOFA CUSHION MONEY THIS IS PEOPLE'S LIVES AND IT'S THEIR CHILDCARE AND IT'S THEIR ABILITY TO BE, YOU KNOW, GET SOME ECONOMIC MOBILITY. AND SO I'M I DON'T DENY THAT WE NEED THAT HELP WITH OUR YOUTH TO CHANGE THEIR TRAJECTORY WHILE WE CAN.
I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THIS CONCERN AND SHARE WITH EVERYONE WHAT THE STATUS WAS ON THAT 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET, AND HOW THAT COULD BE DEVASTATING IF THESE JUST GET WIPED AWAY.
THANKS. I'LL HAVE I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF OUR OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE TEAM.
AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'VE TRIED TO FOCUS OUR ATTENTION.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MISS CITY ATTORNEY, A YEAR AGO, WE MOVED THAT OUT, AND THEN WE KIND OF PULLED THE DRIVERS OF POVERTY OVER INTO THAT BUCKET. SO I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO USE THIS TO SEE THE DIRECTION THAT I THINK WE CAN GO AND WE CAN DEFINITELY COME BACK AND SHARE RESULTS AND OUTCOMES. BUT I KNOW THE TEAM HAS ACTUALLY WORKED WITH US TO COME UP WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION TODAY.
JUST TRYING TO ASSUAGE MY CONCERNS OVER THIS.
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I MEAN, WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM AN IMPORTANT AREA TO GIVE TO AN IMPORTANT AREA.SO I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE FAMILIES WHO MAY BE RELYING ON THIS CHILDCARE.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME? YES. SO YOU'RE REFERRING WHEN YOU SAID THE $78,000, THAT'S THE OVERALL REDUCTION TO CDBG, RIGHT? OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT THREW ME OFF, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD. AND SOME OF THAT'S ADMINISTRATIVE, I THINK.
BUT. RIGHT. AND I WOULD HAVE TO HONESTLY LEAN ON SHAN AND HER TEAM TO SPEAK TO EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THAT REDUCTION APPLIES, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S ONLY 717. I THINK COMING OUT OF THE CHILD CARE PIECE OF IT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BECAUSE THE GRANT WENT DOWN, WE HAVE TO MOVE THE THE CATEGORY DOWN.
SO IT'S CAP DRIVEN. SO SO THAT'S COLLECTIVELY THOUGH PUBLIC SERVICES.
SO IT MAY OR IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SPECIFICALLY OUT OF DRIVERS OR CHILD CARE OR BUT COLLECTIVELY.
SO THE REST OF IT IS OUT OF THE REST OF CDBG.
SO I APOLOGIZE. THAT WAS MY CONFUSION. WAS JUST SO WE'RE KIND OF OUR HANDS ARE KIND OF TIED BECAUSE THE WHOLE NUMBER CAME DOWN, WERE CAPPED IN WHAT WE CAN GIVE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS. THAT'S THE ALLOCATION LIMITATION.
YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM C.
THANK YOU. I THINK THAT TODAY WE'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO BE SHARING OUR SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT.
SO I CAN DO THAT. JUST TO PUT THIS ON THE RECORD AGAIN AND PUT AN UNDERSCORE IT AND HYPERLINK IT BACK TO DISTRICT FOUR. CAROLYN KING ARNOLD, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS, AND I'M VERY GLAD TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT PROGRAM.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, MY CONVERSATIONS AROUND WITH TRAN OR OR VICTOR OR WHOEVER IT IS, MR. GIVENS, THEY'RE ALL TRYING TO WORK TOWARD THIS ONE GOAL OF OF IMPACT IN THIS AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT WE STARTED ABOUT, I THINK, ALMOST ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF NOW WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO A QUESTION THAT WAS DIRECTED TO ME IN TERMS OF HOW DO WE GET MORE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS.
SO I'M HOPING THAT THERE WILL BE SOME MORE CLARITY AROUND THE PROCESS SO THAT YOU DON'T GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT ONLY ONE GROUP IS CAPABLE OR KNOWLEDGEABLE IN TERMS OF HOW THIS ARENA WORKS.
THEY WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE RFP SYSTEM WORKED.
CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, I'VE TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE, I NEVER DID GET ANY FOLLOW UP BACK FROM THAT.
AND WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE PLEDGING TO DO SOME WORK, I LIKE TO DO IT.
SO THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.
BECAUSE WHEN WE GIVE A CONTRACT, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR, IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME CLEAR BENCHMARKS ON WHAT'S EXPECTED SO THEY CAN GIVE THAT TO US IN RETURN. SO THEY'RE NOT PUSHED OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO BECAUSE WE WEREN'T CLEAR.
SO I AM IN TOUCH ON A REGULAR BASIS. I JUST FEEL LIKE IF I HAD TO SAY ANYTHING THAT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. WE WE NEEDED TO HAVE MORE SUPPORT FROM THE STAFF AS WE TRY TO GIVE INFORMATION TO THAT TEAM.
AND I THINK REALLY, WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT ON A PERSONAL, PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, BUT I THINK THE POVERTY AND THE VIOLENCE, THOSE THINGS KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND.
AND YOU HAVE TO REALLY KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND HOW SOMETIMES I'M NOT SAYING EVERYONE THAT'S IMPOVERISHED IS MORE LIKELY TO COMMIT A CRIME, BECAUSE THAT THEN BECOMES A STEREOTYPE. YOU KNOW, I WAS I WAS I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU, I WAS BORN WEALTHY WITH A SILVER SPOON IN MY MOUTH, BUT I WAS NOT. SO THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT A CITY THAT WOULD AT LEAST HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF LOOKING TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN AND THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK YOU IS THIS WHAT IS AI? SINCE I'LL ASK YOU ALL THIS IN CITY MANAGER, MAYBE YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS WHO ARE WHO ARE WORKING FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS UP? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT THE AGE GROUP, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS.
SO I CAN'T ANSWER WHAT'S HAPPENING OVERALL. BUT WHAT I CAN ALSO TELL YOU IS THAT I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS ALSO INVESTED IN PROGRAMS OF THIS NATURE, AND THEY'RE SPENDING DOLLARS ANNUALLY. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH HOW WE'RE APPROACHING THE DRIVERS OF POVERTY GOING FORWARD IS HOW DO WE ENSURE I TALKED ABOUT THE ECOSYSTEM, BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING ALL PARTS OF THE CITY AND DOING SO IN A WAY TO WHERE WE'RE HELPING FILL A GAP.
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BUT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ORGANIZATION PUTTING IN THAT INVESTMENT.AND SO I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT ARE DOING IT.
WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED? I MENTIONED HAVING A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR.
THEY WOULD BE THE ONES KIND OF LEADING AND KIND OF GUIDING IT.
THEY MAY END UP BRINGING THREE, 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS TO THE TABLE TO HELP US TRULY ADDRESS THOSE AREAS OF OUR CITY THAT WE NEED TO BE DISRUPTING CERTAIN TYPES OF BEHAVIOR WITH OUR CHILDREN, WITH OUR YOUTH. ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS WITH TIME BEING WHAT IT IS, IF YOU ALL GET A A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, THAT'S FINE.
BUT THE DOOR SHOULD BE OPEN TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE, AS WE WERE TRYING TO DO, GET THEM A PARTNER. WE HAD PARTNERSHIPS, PARTNERS THAT WERE IN LINE.
WE JUST DIDN'T DO OUR PART ON THE SIDE OF THE CITY. I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT ONCE YOU GET INTO THIS WORLD A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, YOU'LL FIND OUT THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU START EVEN FROM A YOUNG AGE, BECAUSE AT A YOUNG AGE, YOU HAVE SOME WHO ARE ALREADY WHEELING AND DEALING AND AND THAT'S A FACT, JACK.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT I'M FANS AT.
AND MISS ARNOLD, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING. THE CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF WAS IN THE PAST, AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAD ON THE STREET BEFORE, THIS WOULD BE A DIFFERENT WAY OF DELIVERING IT.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING THE WORK, THAT WE SUPPORT THEM A DIFFERENT KIND OF WAY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. I THINK IT CAN HELP WITH A LOT OF THE THE ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THEY NEED TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
SO I THINK IT WILL CREATE A BUFFER, BUT IT ALSO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD CAPACITY.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM C AND THANK YOU AND MISS TALBERT YOU BECAUSE THAT WAS MY QUESTION BECAUSE IT SAYS A NEW VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS.
AND YOU DID TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
I WILL, THERE'LL BE OR COULD THERE BE A MENTAL HEALTH FOCUS ON THIS? BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE FINDING WITH THE OPIOID AND A BUNCH OF OTHER DEALINGS IS THAT MENTAL HEALTH, ESPECIALLY AROUND OUR YOUTH, IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
THANK THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON. I'LL GO BACK FOR JUST A SECOND. THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT UP THE LONE STAR JUSTICE ALLIANCE, BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING TO TRULY MAP OUT A STRATEGIC PLAN FOCUSED AROUND OUR YOUTH.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT A MULTITUDE OF ISSUES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.
SO USING THAT DATA, IF IT TALKS ABOUT WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT SUBSTANCE ABUSE, THEN WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR WOULD PUT OUT THERE WOULD BE A PROGRAM OR SERVICES THAT TRULY HELP ADDRESS IT.
SO IT'LL GIVE US WHERE WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM, FROM, I WOULD SAY, A PLACE OF UNCERTAINTY WE'RE REALLY STARTING WITH DATA THAT THEY'VE BEEN COLLECTING OVER THIS LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND IT'S ABOUT HOW DO WE NOW MOVE FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTING A PLAN THAT TRULY ADDRESSES THOSE. SO I WOULD TELL YOU THAT IF IT'S THERE, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE INCLUDED. WE WOULD WRITE THE SCOPE FOR THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEY WOULD THEN WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN COME TO THE TABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.
AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL BE A BIG, BIG PART OF THAT WORK.
AND THEN FINALLY YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TAKE FROM ONE END TO GIVE TO ANOTHER.
AND I KNOW SO ARE WE TAKING AWAY FROM ANOTHER PROJECT OR JUST AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, JUST THE CHILDCARE, IT'S IN THE DRIVERS OF POVERTY BUCKET. AND I'LL LET I'LL LET THE STAFF EXPLAIN WHAT PIECES WOULD THEN BE IMPACTED.
BUT IT'S ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF THAT BIG BUCKET OF, OF THAT FUNDING.
THIS REMOVES MOST HALF OF THAT FOR 300,000 FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROGRAM.
AND YES, WE HAVE TO MOVE WITHIN THE CATEGORY BECAUSE IT IS A CAP LIMIT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT REALLY ELIMINATING ANYTHING.
IT'S WITHIN THAT CATEGORY. I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE CATEGORY.
AND IT HAS BEEN IT'S BEEN MENTIONED ABOUT CHILDCARE.
YOU WERE NOT ELIMINATING IT. WE'RE JUST REDUCING IT.
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INCLUDE THAT, BUT IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC CHILD CARE LINE.OKAY. I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING SOMETHING. WE'RE JUST REDUCING IT.
CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM C.
JUST A QUESTION. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT. JUST CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THE $300,000, ARE WE MOVING THAT FROM THE DRIVER POLICY TO THE VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION PROGRAM, WHICH SHOWED 300,000? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO? SO WHAT WE'RE TECHNICALLY DOING, WE'RE TAKING THE BUCKET THAT'S ALREADY INCORPORATED THAT LINE ITEM FOR DRIVERS OF POVERTY, WHICH IS IN THAT PUBLIC SERVICE GROUPING. AND WE'RE WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE BODY THROUGH THE AMENDMENT FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY, IS THAT WE CAN THEN USE THAT TO HELP US TRULY FRAME UP A PROGRAM THAT ADDRESSES A MULTITUDE OF ISSUES AROUND OUR YOUTH.
WE KNOW THAT VIOLENCE INTERRUPTERS IS A SERVICE THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE.
IT'S A MODEL THAT IT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY.
SO THERE WILL BE SEVERAL THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING, BUT IT WOULD BE USING THAT BUCKET OUT OF THAT DRIVERS OF POVERTY LINE ITEM, WHICH IS IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE BUCKET, I THINK, IN THE COMMUNITY BUDGET, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BUDGET.
AND DO WE HAVE A CONTRACT? SO THERE'S NO CONTRACT YET.
SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL? BECAUSE THE DAY WE'RE DISCUSSING THE AMENDMENT, WE WOULD THEN WORK AND I TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPING AN RFP TO GET AN ADMINISTRATOR WHO WOULD THEN RUN THE PROGRAM FOR US, AND THEN THEY WOULD GO OUT AND THEN IDENTIFY THE ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES AND THEN SUPPORT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.
SO DO WE HAVE CURRENT ORGANIZATION RIGHT NOW? THEY'RE DOING THAT SERVICE NOW AS OF TODAY AND USING THESE FUNDS? YES. NO, SIR. WE HAVE A CONTRACT THAT'S A CARRYOVER THAT WAS ESTABLISHED, I WANT TO SAY, IN 2023, 2023. 23. 24. AND IT'S WITH I THINK IT'S TWO ORGANIZATIONS.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS ACTUALLY PERFORMING SERVICES.
AND I BELIEVE THAT CONTRACT SITS WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE.
THOSE WOULD CONTINUE. THOSE ARE NOT BEING DISCONTINUED BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY.
AND SO WHEN THOSE CONTRACTS RUN OUT, THEY WOULD NORMALLY HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH A PROCESS ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE NOT CUTTING THOSE. THOSE WILL CONTINUE.
OKAY. SO THEREFORE SO THEREFORE THE RFP WOULD BE LET OUT AND THEY WOULD HAVE APPLIED FOR RFP.
SO THE CITY OF DALLAS, I WOULD SAY THERE WERE SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT PROGRAM, BUT WE HAD OUR RELATIONSHIP DIRECTLY WITH UNITED WAY, AND THEN THEY RAN THE PROGRAM ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
IT'S JUST A MORE EFFICIENT WAY FOR US TO MOVE THE PROGRAM FORWARD.
OKAY. AND SO THEREFORE THEY'RE GOING TO MANAGE THE PROGRAM.
AND HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD THEY BE MANAGING IN THIS PROGRAM? SO AFTER TAKING OUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE A PERCENTAGE JESSICA.
BUT GENERALLY I THINK OUR ADMINISTRATION FOR PURE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IS AROUND UP TO 10%.
SO THERE COULD BE SOME VARIATION DEPENDING ON HOW THAT STRUCTURE IS PUT FORWARD.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS VERY SIMPLE. WHAT WOULD BE THE BUDGET THAT WOULD BE MANAGEMENT, MANAGING THE PROGRAM? HOW MUCH? WHAT WOULD BE THE BUDGET THEY WOULD BE MANAGING? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE A BUDGET SPECIFICALLY FOR MANAGING THE PROGRAM BEYOND AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERCENTAGE.
THAT WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 10%. I THINK BEYOND THAT, IT WOULD ALL BE DIRECT SERVICE.
I THINK THE QUESTION THAT HE'S ASKING, IF I COULD MAKE SURE I'M CLARIFYING IT.
SO IF WE GET A PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
SO IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO SAY UNTIL WE GET THOSE RESPONSES, WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
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OKAY. OKAY. SO I GUESS I GUESS I'M TRYING TO I UNDERSTAND THE MANAGEMENT, I UNDERSTAND RIGHT THERE, BUT I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO MANAGE AND HOW HOW ARE THEY GOING TO OVERALL MANAGE THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROJECT, THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY? YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEADS AROUND.I'M NOT CLEAR. I'M STILL NOT CLEAR. WELL, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT UNDER DISCUSSION THAT'S, YOU KNOW, COMING FORWARD TODAY. AND SO WE WOULD NATURALLY HAVE TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR GRANTS TEAM AND EVEN WITH OUR ATTORNEYS BECAUSE IT'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS.
SO WE'D HAVE TO DEVELOP THE APPROPRIATE COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION PUT TOGETHER THE SCOPE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF SERVICES, AND THEN SOLICIT THAT AND PUT THE CONTRACT IN PLACE OUR TEAM WOULD PROVIDE THE DIRECT CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AND WORKING WITH THAT PARTNER, WE WOULD FOLLOW ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS MANAGEMENT PROTOCOLS.
WE DO THE REQUIRED SAMPLING THAT WE NEED TO DO AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUNDS ARE BEING USED FOR ELIGIBLE PURPOSES AND FOR ELIGIBLE CLIENTS, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT WITH CDBG FUNDS. BUT BEYOND THAT, IT IS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO KIND OF ARTICULATE THE SPECIFIC STRUCTURE.
BUT OF COURSE, MAINTAINING COMPLIANCE WITH BOTH THE INTENT AS ARTICULATED IN THIS CONVERSATION AND THE COMPLIANCE AND REGULATION REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT WOULD BE AN UTMOST PRIORITY.
AND THEN, OF COURSE FOLLOWING ALONG AND USING THE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TARGETING SERVICES AND REACHING OUR, OUR, THE AREAS OF MOST NEED IN OUR CITY. AND THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME WE DID A MANAGEMENT PROGRAM LIKE THIS IN THE CITY.
THAT WAS VERY MUCH ON OUR BEHALF, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY MANAGING, I THINK, AS MANY AS LIKE 14 DIFFERENT PROVIDERS AT ONE POINT THAT WERE ALL DELIVERING THOSE ASSISTANCE SERVICES, UTILIZING FUNDING THAT WE HAD GOTTEN THROUGH, I THINK IT WAS CRF CORONAVIRUS RELIEF AND THEN LATER ARPA FUNDING FOR THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. SO WE HAVE EXPERIENCE PROVIDING OVERSIGHT OF PROGRAM OVERSIGHT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
YOU CAN DO AN RFP. AND MY CONCERN IS, NUMBER ONE, FUNDING.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY MANAGEMENT, YOU GOT TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
AND I'M JUST SO IF I CAN FOR JUST A SECOND WITHOUT BELABORING BELABORING THE POINT.
RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS BACK TO THE WAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE HAVE TO DO BUSINESS.
AND AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN, OF COURSE.
BUT AS WE GO THROUGH, EVEN THE WAY WE'RE APPROACHING OUR NEW BUDGET THROUGH THIS WHOLE PRIORITY BASED LENS, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF DECISIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING FORWARD WHERE WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR A RETURN.
AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IF THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT DEFINITELY ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW FOR US TO TRULY DELIVER THE SERVICES THAT WE KNOW THAT OUR RESIDENTS NEED, AND WE'RE NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE OUTCOMES, THEN WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO BE SPENDING MONEY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO INVEST.
AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT HAVING WAYS TO SUPPORTING OUR YOUTH IS CRITICAL.
BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING SOME OF THAT WORK AS WELL. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO USE THIS TO HELP FILL A GAP AND BE ABLE TO USE THE RESULTS OF THAT TO COME BACK AND SAY WHETHER OR NOT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE.
MISS ARNOLD SPOKE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
AND THAT REALLY DID CREATE A LOT OF NEGATIVITY AROUND THE SERVICES THAT WERE BEING PROVIDED.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT WHAT THE STRUCTURE SHOULD BE.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT MAPPED OUT TODAY, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY WORK ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE PUT OUT THERE TRULY IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME RESULTS THAT ARE POSITIVE FOR THE CITY.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO NOW TAKE THAT AND BE ABLE TO USE IT TO OUR TO OUR BENEFIT.
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OKAY. I THINK IT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW, GREAT DIVISION, YOU KNOW, VISION, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE PLAN, HOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
I KNOW IT'S DEAL WITH BUDGET. AND WHEN YOU BUDGET, WE SAID MANAGEMENT.
I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT YOU'RE MANAGING SOMETHING.
IT'S GOT TO BE A BUDGET. IT'S GOT TO BE A FUNDING OUT THERE. WHAT HOW MUCH YOU MANAGEMENT ARE WE DOING THE RIGHT WAY? WHY ARE WE DOING RFP TO HIRE SOMEONE WITH $300,000 TO MANAGE A PLAN? BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.
THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE THIS JUST VERY QUICK. AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS. AND TERRY WILLIS.
I SHARED YOUR CONCERN TOO, ABOUT THAT CAUSE AND EFFECT.
RIGHT. WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS, AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING. SOMETIMES IT'S INTENTIONAL, SOMETIMES IT'S UNINTENTIONAL. SO I REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE, GIVEN MY HEART FOR PARTICULARLY YOUTH. BUT GIVEN THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WASN'T TRYING TO DO SOMETHING, OR WE WEREN'T TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANOTHER SERVICE.
SO I REALLY DID CHECK FOR THAT. SO THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO SPLIT IT.
SO IT'S REALLY MEANT TO ESTABLISH ONE ORGANIZATION THAT WILL DO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE OF IT, WHILE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY DOING THE WORK, REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE YOU'RE ON, THEY CAN BE IN THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY TOUCHING THE PEOPLE AND DOING THE WORK, WHICH IS HISTORICALLY BEEN WHY SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS WEREN'T AS SUCCESSFUL.
SO THIS IS REALLY MEANT TO ESTABLISH A WAY WHERE WE CAN MANAGE IT AND LET THE FOLKS DOING THE WORK DO THE WORK, BUT ALSO TRACK IT USING DATA TO ENSURE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ACTUALLY SUCCESSFUL DURING THIS.
SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU. AND THEN LASTLY, I WANT TO SAY TO THE MENTAL PART OF THIS, A LOT OF THE REASONS WE'RE HAVING THESE ISSUES IS BECAUSE OUR YOUTH IS WHAT THEY CALL AND CRASHING OUT.
THAT'S THE FIRST RESPONSE IS A CRASH OUT. AND IT'S ALMOST COOL NOW TO DO THAT.
SO THIS IS REALLY MEANT TO BE A WELL ROUNDED WAY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS IN THE YOUTH.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON ITEM C? SEE ANYONE REMOTELY EITHER. SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
MADAM CITY MANAGER. YES. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU TO THE STAFF.
SO WE'RE. OH. I'M SORRY. OH, WE GOT TO DO THE CARD.
SEALS RAISED IN FAVOR. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART WILLIS.
MENDELSOHN NARVAEZ ATKINS ARNOLD MORENO GRACEY WEST.
AND HANDS UP FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON. THIS AMENDMENT MOVES FORWARD, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. GO AHEAD. CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
[D. 25-1680A Facilities in Focus: Portfolio Overview, Deferred and Preventive Maintenance, and Path to State of Good Repair]
FACILITIES THAT CURRENTLY FALL UNDER THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE THROUGH OUR FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT TEAM.DEFINITELY. THIS WILL GIVE THE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE PORTFOLIO OF THOSE FACILITIES, THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES, AS WELL AS PROVIDE YOU WITH A SUMMARY OF ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR ACTIVITIES.
WE'RE ALSO TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH.
HOW DO WE BEGIN TO SHOW BENCHMARKING DATA? WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AND HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER PEER CITIES IN TERMS OF TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND HOW THEY'RE MAINTAINING AND INVESTING AS WELL IN MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.
AND SO TODAY WE WANT TO JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET.
TODAY, IN CONCLUSION, WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME ADDITIONAL POLICY DISCUSSIONS THAT DEFINITELY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BODY, WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE BASED ON YOUR INPUT AND YOUR FEEDBACK IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR OF THE FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, JOHN JOHNSON. AND WE HAVE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR CAROLINA.
YOU MET OF THAT DEPARTMENT AS WELL. THANK YOU ALL.
AND WE'RE GOING TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS JOHN. YES.
I'M JOINED BY CAROLINA SCHMIDT ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
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SO NEXT SLIDE. IN THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S BRIEFING IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF FRM'S PORTFOLIO DATA AND METRICS, REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES, AND TALK ABOUT FUNDING.WE WILL ALSO HIGHLIGHT WAYS WE ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE OUTCOMES, HOW DALLAS COMPARES TO OTHER CONTEMPORARIES, AND WE WILL CLOSE OUT WITH POTENTIAL POLICIES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THE AVERAGE BUILDING AGE IS 47 YEARS, INDICATING AGING INFRASTRUCTURE CITYWIDE.
A LARGE SHARE OF THE BUILDINGS TOTALING 129 OF THE PORTFOLIO IS OVER 51 YEARS OLD.
LIBRARIES, RECREATION CENTERS AND OFFICES ARE THE NEXT LARGEST GROUPS.
THESE ARE FREQUENT SMALLER SCALE AND COMPONENT LEVEL REPAIRS.
AND THESE ARE FUNDED BY OUR OPERATING BUDGET.
EPHREM ALSO OVERSEES THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE UPGRADES, WHICH ARE LARGER SCALE AND THEIR FULL REPLACEMENT OF BUILDING SYSTEMS. AND THESE ARE FUNDED IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET. ON SLIDE SEVEN.
THESE REPAIRS ADDRESS URGENT FAILURES QUICKLY TO AVOID MAJOR OPERATIONAL IMPACTS.
THESE SMALLER INVESTMENTS HELP PREVENT LARGER CAPITAL FAILURES OVER TIME.
THESE PROJECTS ARE FOCUSING ON RESTORING BUILDING SYSTEMS, AND SOME INSTANCES ARE ADDRESSING LONG, LONG DEFERRED ISSUES THAT HAVE NOW REACHED A CRITICAL STATUS.
NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN, WHO WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU CAROLINA. SO WE'LL BE ON SLIDE NINE.
LET'S MOVE INTO THE NUMBERS THAT SUPPORT OUR SERVICE DELIVERY.
SLIDE NINE PROVIDES A HISTORICAL RECORD OF FRME.
PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS BSD'S OPERATING BUDGETS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, FRM'S OPERATING BUDGET IS APPROXIMATELY $32 MILLION, WHICH IS BROKEN DOWN INTO ITS MAJOR DIVISIONS IN THE CHART, NOTING THAT APPROXIMATELY 14 MILLION IS ALLOCATED TO MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR INITIATIVES REPRESENTED BY THE GREEN SEGMENT. NEXT SLIDE.
SLIDE TEN FURTHER BREAKS DOWN THE 14 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS, WHICH IS 3.8 MILLION FOR BUILDING MATERIALS AND REPAIRS, 7.7 MILLION FOR TRADES AND MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL, AND 2.5 MILLION FOR OTHER, WHICH INCLUDES SACRED CODES, THINGS LIKE FLEET FUEL, UNIFORMS, CELL PHONES, ETC.
NEXT SLIDE. THE FISCAL YEAR 25 ADOPTED BUDGET ALSO INCLUDED $15.2 MILLION OF ONE TIME CAPITAL FUNDING THAT WAS ALLOCATED FROM ARPA, REALLOCATIONS AND GRANT CLOSEOUTS. EXAMPLE PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES FUNDED FROM THOSE ONE TIME ALLOCATIONS ARE LISTED FOR THE COUNCIL'S AWARENESS ON THIS SLIDE.
NEXT SLIDE. SO FOCUSING HERE FOR A MOMENT, EVEN WITH THESE COLLECTIVE RESOURCES, WE'RE STILL FALLING SHORT OF WHAT THE INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES RECOMMEND BASED ON THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE FEDERAL FACILITIES COUNCIL.
A SUITABLE ANNUAL REPAIR BUDGET ALLOCATION FOR A LARGE INVENTORY OF FACILITIES IS GENERALLY WITHIN THE RANGE OF 2 TO 4% OF THE AGGREGATE REPLACEMENT VALUE OF THE PORTFOLIO. THE 2 TO 4% ALLOCATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A MINIMUM BUDGET, AND ANNUAL SPENDING MUST BE INCREASED IF THERE IS A BACKLOG OF NEEDS DUE TO DEFERRED MAINTENANCE OR NEGLECT. TO BETTER UNDERSTAND TOTAL RESOURCES ALLOCATED TO MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, WE PROVIDED A CHART THAT DETAILS HISTORICAL ANNUAL MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR FUNDS, WHICH ARE SHOWN IN ORANGE ALONG WITH ANNUAL CAPITAL FUNDS SHOWN IN BLUE.
TO ILLUSTRATE HOW OUR BUDGET STACKS UP AGAINST THE FCS INDUSTRY STANDARD RECOMMENDATION, THE YELLOW LINE REPRESENTS 2% OR $30 MILLION OF THE AGGREGATE PORTFOLIO VALUE. THE RED LINE REPRESENTS 4% OR 60 MILLION, AND THE BLUE LINE REPRESENTS 70 MILLION,
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WHICH IS 4%, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 10 MILLION INVESTMENT FOR A BACKLOG OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE NEEDS.NEXT SLIDE. AS PART OF OUR BENCHMARKING AND OUR OPERATIONS, WE SURVEYED SEVERAL OTHER SIMILARLY SIZED CITIES AND CITIES WITHIN OUR GEOGRAPHIC REGION TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR LEVEL OF INVESTMENT COMPARED TO DALLAS.
YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF FACILITIES MAINTAINED AND THE MOST RECENT FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT COMPLETED IN THE CHART TO THE LEFT, AND THE CHART ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE TOTAL SQUARE FEET MANAGED AS COMPARED TO ANNUAL REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE FUNDING.
LET'S TURN TO WHERE WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS IN FISCAL YEAR 25.
FRM LAUNCHED TWO PILOT PROGRAMS RELATED TO PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.
SOME OF THE KEY BENEFITS OF OUR INVESTMENT INCLUDE REDUCED EMERGENCY SERVICE CALLS, REDUCED REPAIR COSTS, LESS DISRUPTION TO OPERATION, AND EXTENDED USEFUL LIFE OF ASSETS.
NEXT SLIDE. THE TWO NEW PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PILOT PROGRAMS REFERENCED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE INCLUDE A PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, NOW INCLUDED AT 75 PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDINGS, WHICH INCLUDES AN ANNUAL CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND PROACTIVE REPAIR PLANS AND ESTIMATES, AND THE VFR HVAC PILOT PROGRAM TO PROVIDE QUARTERLY PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE SERVICE CALLS, PLUS AN ANNUAL ENHANCED SERVICE AT ALL FIRE STATIONS AND VFR FACILITIES, WHICH IS CURRENTLY FUNDED THROUGH THE SUMMER OF FISCAL YEAR 26.
NEXT SLIDE. SO PREVENTATIVE PROGRAMS ARE A START, BUT WE ALSO NEED BETTER DATA TO GUIDE LONG TERM PLANNING AND A COMPLETE LIST OF CURRENT NEEDS IS UNKNOWN. THE MOST RECENT FCA WAS COMPLETED IN 2017 WITH LIMITED SCOPE.
THE FACILITIES INCLUDED FOR CITY FACILITIES WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, AND AN UPDATED FCA RECOMMENDED AS PART OF ANY MAINTENANCE OR REPAIR PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE US WITH THE CURRENT INVENTORY OF NEEDS.
ALLOW US TO PRIORITIZE AND ESTIMATE REPAIRS, PLAN FOR CAPITAL BUDGETING, PROVIDE USEFUL DATA FOR DECISIONS, AND FURTHER SUPPORT COMPLIANCE WITH FMPC CRITERIA.
NEXT SLIDE. SO QUICKLY, LET'S REVIEW SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD TO DEFER FOR FUNDING GAPS.
EXAMPLES LISTED ON THIS SLIDE ARE LONG STANDING PROJECTS, WHICH WE ARE REQUIRED TO DEFER DUE TO LACK OF FUNDS OVER HIGHER PRIORITIZATION OF MISSION CRITICAL NEEDS. NEXT SLIDE. HERE'S HOW THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS LOOKING TO STRENGTHEN OUR MAINTENANCE APPROACH.
THE OPERATIONAL INITIATIVES LISTED ON SLIDE 18 ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT CAN BE ENACTED UNDER HER AUTHORITY TO IMPROVE FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND OPTIMIZE USE OF CITY RESOURCES.
THOSE INCLUDE COMPLETING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 2018 CULTURAL PLAN, RECOMMENDATION TO SHIFT FACILITY MAINTENANCE TO THE OPERATORS, AND OR TRANSITION TO ANNUAL CAPPED REIMBURSEMENTS.
REVIEWING EXISTING FACILITY MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS TO ENSURE THEY SERVE A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND, IF NEEDED, RENEGOTIATE TERMS OR UPDATE TO A COST SHARING STRUCTURE.
THIS SHIFT WOULD HELP ALIGN DALLAS OPERATIONS MORE CLOSELY WITH BEST PRACTICES AND, OVER TIME, REDUCE FUTURE UNFUNDED LIABILITIES THROUGH PROACTIVE PLANNING AND INVESTMENT.
YOU ESTABLISH ANNUAL FUNDING WITH REOCCURRING INCREASES TO SUPPORT INVESTMENT IN PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE, WHICH EXTENDS THE USEFUL LIFE OF OUR EQUIPMENT AND SYSTEMS, AND LEVERAGE THE DATA FROM AN UPDATED FTA WITH BOND PROGRAM FUNDS TO ADDRESS IDENTIFIED NEEDS. ALSO SUPPORTING FPC COMPLIANCE AND DEVELOP A CLEAR POLICY ON HOW TO REINVEST PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF REAL ASSETS TO SUPPORT FACILITY RELATED NEEDS.
AND THAT COMPLETES OUR PRESENTATION. OKAY. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.
YOU READY? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.
I THINK IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT BRIEFING WE'VE HAD IN 2025.
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AND IT REALLY IS SUMMED UP ON SLIDE 13, WHERE WE LOOK AT THE BENCHMARKING OF HOW MUCH THE CITY OF DALLAS IS INVESTING IN OUR FACILITIES COMPARED TO OTHERS, AND IT'S TRULY SHAMEFUL.AND IT EXPLAINS WHY SO MANY FACILITIES ARE SUFFERING GREAT CHALLENGES.
I'LL SAY IT LIKE THAT. SO TO ME, THIS SAYS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO GET TOGETHER TODAY.
SO ON PAGE FOUR YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOUR DEPARTMENT IS COVERING 500 PLUS BUILDINGS.
BUT I KNOW PREVIOUSLY YOU HAVE BRIEFED US 809 BUILDINGS TOTAL.
SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. THE NEXT ONE IS ON SLIDE FIVE.
I'M INTERESTED THAT YOU'RE SHOWING THE WICK LOCATIONS BECAUSE I THINK WE GENERALLY LEASE THOSE, NOT OWN THEM. THAT IS CORRECT. AND IN SOME INSTANCES WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE.
AND SOME OF THEM ARE OKAY. SEE, THAT MAKES SENSE THEN.
SOMEBODY TO DO SOME RESEARCH SO YOU CAN WHITTLE THAT NUMBER TO A SMALLER NUMBER THAN A 165.
OF THOSE 500, PERHAPS WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, WE COULD FURTHER REFINE THAT NUMBER.
BUT THESE ARE ACCESSORY USES, SUCH AS SHEDS OR AIR QUALITY MONITORING STATIONS, OR THINGS THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY NOT INCLUDE IN AN FCA, ALTHOUGH IN SOME OF THE COMMUNICATIONS TOWERS OR THE AIR QUALITY, THERE ARE HVAC UNITS.
YEAH, I BET THERE'S SOME THAT COULD HELP YOU DO THIS OR EVEN A SUMMER INTERN.
THEN WE HAVE SLIDE SIX. AND AGAIN, THIS IS VERY INTERESTING.
SOME THINGS TO BE IN A MEMO. ONE IS IF YOU COULD DETAIL TO US THE MINOR MAJOR AND EMERGENCY REPAIRS WHAT WAS BUDGETED AND THEN WHAT OUR ACTUAL WAS FOR ALL THREE OF THOSE. AND IF WE COULD DO THAT FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, 24 AND YEAR TO DATE FOR 25.
OKAY. WE'LL DO OUR VERY BEST. YES. THE EMERGENCY COMPONENT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED TO EXPAND OUR DATA COLLECTION THROUGH THE WORK ORDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND SO PREVIOUSLY THINGS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED IN A CERTAIN AREA, BUT WE'LL DO OUR VERY BEST TO PROVIDE THAT. AND THEN SO I'M INTERESTED IN THE NPCS AND I DON'T KNOW IF JACK IS STILL HERE, BUT RELATING TO REPAIRS, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING? OH, THERE HE IS. THAT IS OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
IT HAS TO COME FROM GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WHERE? NO, HE'S SAYING NO. OKAY, WELL, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN HAVING A DISCUSSION, PERHAPS AT GFM WHERE WE TALK ABOUT IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO USE DEBT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A $50,000 EXPENSE, AS OPPOSED TO, I MEAN, I'D RATHER TAKE IT FROM CONTINGENCY THAN PAY INTEREST ON THAT.
THE NEXT ONE IS ALSO AN ABOUT ACCRUAL FOR MAJOR SYSTEM MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT.
AND IF WE WOULD CONSIDER ADDING SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT REALLY IS THE ANSWER HERE.
RIGHT. YOU WOULD ALWAYS HAVE THE FUNDS ON TIME, ON TARGET TO DO THE WORK THAT'S NECESSARY, SO THAT WE DIDN'T EITHER END UP WITH AN EXTREMELY COLD ROOM.
IN CASE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, IT'S LIKE 30 DEGREES IN HERE RIGHT NOW.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US TALK ABOUT AND HOPEFULLY ENACT SOME SORT OF ACCRUAL BASIS FOR OUR ASSETS.
AND THEN I THINK I'M ALMOST DONE. OKAY. YEAH.
I'VE GOT ONE MORE TAB. YEAH. SO FOR THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATIONS I'M SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF THEM. I WOULD SAY NUMBER FOUR, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY START FUNDING THAT, NOT JUST DO THE ASSESSMENT.
AND IT MIGHT MEAN SOME LEANER TIMES THAN OTHER AREAS, BUT THIS IS ESSENTIAL.
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OUR TAXPAYERS BOUGHT THESE AND THEY EXPECT US TO TAKE CARE OF OUR ASSETS.THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM D.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WANT TO SECOND MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS.
CAROLYN AND JOHN. VERY GOOD PRESENTATION AND WAY TO CONSOLIDATE A LOT OF COMPLICATED DATA INTO VERY SUCCINCT WAY, ALONG WITH A SUCCINCT PRESENTATION. SO I AGREE ALSO ON ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK THAT YOU GAVE US A PATHWAY FORWARD. I GUESS MY QUESTION WILL BE KIND OF ON THE HIGH LEVEL IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS? I MEAN, WE KNOW I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE GOING TO SUPPORT A TAX INCREASE.
I KNOW OUR RESIDENTS DON'T SUPPORT A TAX INCREASE TO PAY FOR THIS.
SO IS THERE A PLAN TO START TURNING THE TIDE? AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR THE CITY MANAGER, MIGHT BE FOR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, BUT I MEAN, LIKE, WHERE'S WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM? AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE ANSWER FOR YOU TODAY ON THAT.
SO I THINK HERE COMES THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. BUT AS WE MENTIONED, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO DO MORE WITH LESS. SO I KNOW JACK KNOWS WHERE ALL THE MONEY IS. SO COME ON JACK. GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT? IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO WHERE IT FALLS IN OUR PRIORITIES.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A 1977 RESOLUTION OF COUNCIL THAT SAYS THAT WE USE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF ANY ASSETS FOR MAJOR MAINTENANCE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
WE'VE BEEN FUNDING HOW MUCH A YEAR. JOHN WAS PREVIOUSLY NINE, BUT IT'S GONE UP TO 11.
I MISSED CHAIR MIDDLETON'S QUESTION ABOUT THE THE WICK LEASE FACILITIES.
BEFORE THAT, I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FACILITIES OR SOMETHING.
WHAT MAKES UP ON SLIDE FIVE? THE 184 MISCELLANEOUS BUILDINGS.
ARE ANY OF THOSE ENTERPRISE FUNDED FACILITIES? SO WE DO HAVE SOME. FACILITIES, BUT THE BULK OF IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN HERE.
THE MISCELLANEOUS IS GOING TO BE WHAT JOHN HAD MENTIONED IN ACCESSORY BUILDINGS.
TOWERS AND COMMUNICATION TOWERS AND THAT SORT.
OKAY. SO NOTHING ON THIS PORTFOLIO DATA SLIDE IS ENTERPRISE FUNDED OR ARE SOME OF THESE ENTERPRISE FUNDED? NO. AND IF WE WERE TO DO ANYTHING FOR THE ENTERPRISE, THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US. BUT TYPICALLY THEY HANDLE THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE.
SO EVERYTHING ON HERE HAS TO BE FUNDED THROUGH GENERAL FUNDS.
YIKES. OKAY. I'LL FOLLOW UP ON MEMO WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM D.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. THESE FIGURES AREN'T PRETTY, BUT THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED TO BE MADE AWARE OF AS WE'RE MAKING BUDGET AND POLICY DECISIONS. HOW OFTEN SHOULD A.
ASSESSMENT CONDITION ASSESSMENT BE MADE? YES, SIR.
SO THE INDUSTRY RECOMMENDATION IS EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS.
OKAY. OKAY. AND HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO I GUESS, ASSESS THE ADDITIONAL ASSETS THAT WERE NOT IN THIS PRESENTATION. SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND ASSESSING THEM.
ALL. THE 220 THAT WERE DONE IN THE 2017 ASSESSMENT WERE DONE IN ABOUT TWO YEARS.
IT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT SHY OF TWO YEARS. OKAY.
AND THEN ON YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS DID WE ALSO, FOR EXAMPLE SHIFTING MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES DID WE LOOK AT NAMING RIGHT OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THE NAMING. RIGHT. OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITY BUILDINGS.
WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE THAT AS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE.
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OKAY. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO USEFUL LIFE. I THINK WE CLEARLY HAVE WAY TOO MANY ASSETS.AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SURPLUS PROPERTIES AND WHAT TO DO WITH FACILITIES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT USING, BUT FACILITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING MAINTAINED OR OPERATED.
HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT THE COST TO REFURBISH RECONSTRUCT DOES NOT OUTWEIGH WHAT THE BUILDING IS WORTH? SO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS WHAT'S CONTAINED IN THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT.
GREAT. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. I WAS SAYING HOW IT'S NOT PRETTY, THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH US.
CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM D. THANK YOU MAYOR. TO THE EXTENT THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS KEEPING TRACK OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF MAKING THESE KINDS OF RECOMMENDATIONS OF PRIORITY, ADD ME TO THE LIST.
THIS IS IMPORTANT. IT'S A, I THINK, A MANAGEMENT FAILURE TO NOT KEEP OUR INVESTED ASSETS IN A GOOD STATE OF REPAIR. IT JUST INCREASES THE COST OF REPAIR OR RECONSTRUCTION DOWN THE ROAD, OR THE COST OF REPLACING THE FACILITIES ENTIRELY.
WE'VE SEEN THIS PATTERN IN THE ARTS DISTRICT VENUES, AND WE END UP PAYING A LOT MORE IN OUR BOND PROGRAM TO DO THE KINDS OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT WOULD HAVE COST MUCH LESS IF WE HAD JUST MAINTAINED IT ON AN ONGOING BASIS GOING FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY, WE ACTUALLY ARE MAKING UP TIME. WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SUPPORTING WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
AND SO THAT WAS REALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY.
MR. GIBSON HAS ASSURED ME THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK IN FRONT OF YOU VERY, VERY SOON.
WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE SOME BEST PRACTICES ALREADY AROUND THE INDUSTRY, AND SO WE KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOME BOLD DECISIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THIS BODY TO SUPPORT.
YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. ITEM D THANK YOU.
AND JUST FOLLOWING UP WITH WITH CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, JUST IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO AND THROUGH CITY MANAGERS, IT'S INFORMATION AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ACTUALLY THE CITY TO KNOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE AND SO THAT THERE ARE NEVER ANY SURPRISES ABOUT WHEN A CALL COMES IN, WE'RE GOING, WHERE IS THAT? WE DON'T EVER WANT TO DO THAT.
SO AND I DO HAVE A HAVE JUST A CONFIDENCE THAT THAT WE WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS IN THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONGOING MAINTENANCE. AND ACTUALLY IF WE HAVE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE END UP SELLING, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WILL MAKE A DECISION ON.
BUT I AM DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY VESTED IN THE NOTION THAT WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT OUR INVENTORY IS.
SO I DO ONCE AGAIN GIVE YOU MY SUPPORT UNDERSCORED FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THIS, IN THIS MATTER.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ITEM D ON TODAY'S BRIEFING AGENDA? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. MADAM CITY MANAGER, MR. CITY MANAGER, THE ONLY OTHER ITEM I BELIEVE BELONGS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
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I MEAN, MR. MAYOR. I LOVE IT. I'M LIKE, WHOA, THAT'S THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PAY RAISE.I COULD USE IT TOO. I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF Y'ALL WERE LISTENING.
WE WERE INTENTLY. I THOUGHT I'D WON THE LOTTERY THERE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE DONE WITH OUR BRIEFINGS FOR TODAY.
IT WAS REQUESTED BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR THE MAYOR. OKAY, MAYOR PRO TEM, GO AHEAD.
I JUST GOT ONE ITEM SINCE YOU YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR SON.
I JUST WANT TO SAY MY SON JUST GOT HIS DOCTORATE DEGREE AT SMU THIS PAST SATURDAY.
SO I GOT A DOCTOR IN THE IN THE HOUSE. ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY?
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I KNOW WE HAVE ONE. HEY, WE WE HAVE A NEW GREEN HILL ALUM.SO WE'RE GOING TO ALL THE GRADUATION ACKNOWLEDGMENTS.
LET'S DO THOSE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I HAVE TO MAKE IT A HORNET EXEMPTION FROM THE RULES.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE GOT ANY OTHER GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS? GRADUATION. SO I'LL MAKE A VERY UNIQUE ANNOUNCEMENT.
I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ALL OF THE GRADUATES THROUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS, NOT JUST DISTRICT FOUR, BUT TO ALL THE GRADUATES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
THAT'S GREAT. SERIOUSLY? ANYBODY ELSE? JUST ONE.
OH. OH, PAULA. GO AHEAD. OUR SON, EVAN BLACKMON, GRADUATED FROM GRIFFITH COLLEGE IN DUBLIN, IRELAND. HE DOESN'T WALK INTO THE FALL BECAUSE THAT'S THEY HAVE ONE BIG GRADUATION, BUT HE'S COMPLETED HIS COURSEWORK.
CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. THE ONLY LAST THING WE'D LIKE TO INVITE.
IF YOU'RE ABLE TO JOIN US AND LET'S GO, STARS.
I GOT MY GREEN ON TODAY, SO THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.
ANYTHING ELSE? NO FURTHER BUSINESS, MR. MAYOR.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT'S 4:30 P.M. IN THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS. CITY COUNCIL IS
ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.