[Housing and Homelessness Solutions on May 27, 2025.]
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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. IT IS MAY 27TH. THE TIME IS 9:02.
AND I AM CALLING THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER.
WE DO HAVE A CHANGE IN OUR VENUE. WE ARE STILL AT CITY HALL.
WITH THAT, OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND. ANY CORRECTIONS? SEEING NONE. IT'S BEEN APPROVED. ANY OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE. MOTION CARRIES FIRST AGENDA ITEM.
BRIEFING ITEM IS GOING TO BE BY DWU.
AND TODAY WITH ME, I HAVE DAVID FUN. HE IS A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, AND HE'S ACTING AS THE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR FOR DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. SO FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION, ONCE AGAIN, IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE FLOODPLAIN, ITS PURPOSE AND REGULATION. AND ALSO OBTAIN AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN FEDERAL FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS.
WE ALSO WANT TO EXPLAIN THE BENEFITS TO PROPERTY OWNERS FOR PARTICIPATING IN FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE GO TO SLIDE FOUR, PLEASE.
ONE MORE. OKAY. WE'LL CONTINUE WITH SLIDE FOUR. WHAT IS A FLOODPLAIN WHICH IS THE NEXT ONE.
AND TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, IF WE CAN GET TO THE SLIDE, WE HAVE A PICTURE I'D LIKE TO REFER.
OKAY. THAT ONE. THANK YOU. IF YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN.
AND TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION, THE BASIC PRINCIPLE IS THAT IT IS A LOW-LYING AREA OF GROUND ADJACENT TO A RIVER OR CREEK, WITH THE PURPOSE TO STORE THE FLOOD WATERS AFTER HEAVY RAIN EVENTS UNTIL IT CAN DRAIN DOWNSTREAM.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE PICTURE THE BEFORE AND AFTER CONDITIONS.
THESE FLOODPLAIN AREAS ARE INTENDED TO FLOOD, AND THESE AREAS CAN BE PRIVATE OR PUBLIC OWNED.
THIS HELPS DECREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING AND EROSION CONDITIONS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WHY IS FLOODPLAIN REGULATION IMPORTANT? FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT DALLAS FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS COMPLY WITH FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
THE MESSAGE IS THAT FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS ARE IMPORTANT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, PROTECTION OF LIFE, AND PROTECTION OF PROPERTY. IN ADDITION, THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS A NO ADVERSE IMPACT POLICY.
WE CAN SEE THE PHOTO ON THE SCREEN. WE'RE BASICALLY SIMULATING A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WHICH REQUIRES TO FEEL WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN WITH NO REGULATIONS IN PLACE. THIS COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
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AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REGULATE AND ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT INCREASING FLOOD RISK AND IMPACTING OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS AREA. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. FLOODING CAN OCCUR ANYWHERE, AND IT IS THE NUMBER ONE WEATHER RELATED CAUSE OF DEATH IN TEXAS. WITH THAT, THE TABLE SHOWS FLOOD EVENTS AND THEIR PROBABILITY OF OCCURRENCE IN ANY GIVEN YEAR. SO JUST FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE LOOK AT THE FLOOD EVENTS ON THE LEFT, A TEN YEAR FLOOD EVENT, THE PERCENTAGE OF OCCURRENCE IN ANY GIVEN YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT 10%.YOU KNOW, NORMALLY IN DALLAS, WE'RE LOOKING AT RAINFALL CONDITIONS WITHIN THE TEN YEAR, 20 YEAR, YEAR STORMS, TALKING ABOUT YEAR STORMS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
EXCUSE ME. I DON'T THINK THE SLIDES ARE ADVANCING.
WE DO HAVE A DELAY IN THE SLIDES SHOWING UP ON OUR PRESENTATION.
SO ONCE EDUARDO SAYS ADVANCE SLIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE A 15, 20 SECOND DELAY.
OKAY. WE'LL WORK ON IT ON THIS END. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
YEAH. WHAT I'LL DO, I'LL TIE MYSELF TO GIVE A FEW MORE SECONDS TO GET THE RIGHT SLIDE.
BUT WHAT ARE THE CORRECT SLIDE? THIS WITH THIS GRAPHIC, WE WANT TO ILLUSTRATE THAT WITHOUT FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS, FUTURE FLOOD DAMAGES WILL FALL ON PROPERTY OWNERS AS RATE INCREASE OVER TIME.
WE'RE LOOKING AT FLOOD RISK INCREASES AS WE HAVE MORE RAINFALL PATTERNS ARE CHANGING AND CONDITIONS ARE CHANGING WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
WE GO TO SLIDE EIGHT. ONE BEFORE THAT THE PHOTOS. THE NEXT ONE. THAT ONE. SO, WITH THIS, WITH THE PHOTOS ON THE SCREEN I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, PROTECTION OF LIFE, AND PROTECTION OF PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION THE TURNAROUND DON'T DROWN CAMPAIGN.
WHICH IS A PUBLIC SAFETY MESSAGE EMPHASIZING THE DANGERS OF DRIVING THROUGH FLOODWATERS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS SLIDE REPRESENTS THE HISTORY OF DALLAS FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS OVER THE PAST 60 YEARS. DALLAS HAS EXECUTED A NUMBER OF STUDIES AND ACTIONS THAT ALIGN WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS TO MODERNIZE AND STRENGTHEN DALLAS FLOODPLAIN. JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THESE ACTIONS IN STARTING IN 1965 WITH THE FIRST FLOODPLAIN ORDINANCE IN 1975, WE ADOPTED THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM RAM AND DALLAS HAS BEEN A COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM SINCE 1991, AND BETWEEN 1991 AND 2011, WE ADVANCED FROM A CLASS TEN TO A CLASS FIVE.
IN 2004, THE NEW FEMA DIGITIZED FLOOD INSURANCE MAPS CAME ON BOARD, AND IN 2010, AND WE STARTED PARTICIPATING AS A COOPERATING TECHNICAL PARTNER WITH FEMA.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE BEING A PARTNER AND MOST RECENTLY, BETWEEN 2022 AND 23 AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM, WE ADVANCED TO CLASS FOUR AND THEN TO CLASS THREE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO TALKING ABOUT FLOODPLAIN PERMIT REQUIREMENTS. WHEN IS A FLOODPLAIN PERMIT NEEDED? AND IT'S THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY WITHIN THE 100 YEAR FLOODPLAIN.
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WE REGULATE THOSE AREAS AND ALSO ANY UNMAPPED CREEK AND CHANNEL WITH UPSTREAM DRAINAGE AREA OF 100 ACRES OR MORE NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED TO DETERMINE ANY PERMIT NEEDS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.JUST GIVING YOU SOME NUMBERS ABOUT FLOODPLAIN AREAS IN DALLAS.
WE HAVE OVER 39,000 ACRES OF FLOODPLAIN AREA.
OVER 7000 ACRES ARE WITHIN LAKES AND LEVEES. OVER 21,000 ACRES ARE OPEN SPACE.
THAT WILL BE PARKS, THAT WILL BE ROADS, THAT WILL BE THE GREAT TRINITY FOREST.
AND THEN OVER 9000 ACRES ARE WITH EXISTING STRUCTURES OR VACANT LAND.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE TYPE OF PERMITS THAT WE REGULATE AND ENFORCE, WE HAVE TWO.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE PERMIT, AND THE SECOND ONE IS THE FLOODPLAIN ALTERATION PERMIT.
SO THE PERMIT IS FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT RECLAIMS LAND FROM THE FLOODPLAIN.
THAT'S BASICALLY FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES.
THOSE THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS FOR IS FOR ANY MODIFICATIONS TO EXISTING STRUCTURES.
WE CAN, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT THAT ON THE PHOTOS ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, THE TOP PHOTO REPRESENTS A FIELD PERMIT, WHICH IS BASICALLY FILL IN AN AREA TO DEVELOP A STRUCTURE WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN, AND THE BOTTOM PHOTOS REPRESENT MAKING MODIFICATION, RENOVATIONS, BUILDING A SWIMMING POOL THAT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN ALTERATION PERMIT.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS PART OF THE CITY OF DALLAS FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT STANDARDS, WE ADOPTED BUILDING CODES. WE HAVE A FLOOD MITIGATION.
WE HAVE A NO RISING WATER SURFACE ELEVATION AND NO INCREASE EROSIVE VELOCITIES AND FREEBOARD.
THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE CONDITIONS OR REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR ENGINEERING CRITERIA WHEN WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT PROJECTS, DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS OF FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS.
THE NUMBER ONE BENEFIT, OF COURSE, IS PROTECTING LIFE AND PROPERTY.
WE ARE ENSURING THAT COMMUNITIES EVALUATE FLOOD RISK.
AND ALSO, BY HAVING FLOODPLAIN REGULATION, WE HAVE ACCESS TO POST-DISASTER ASSISTANCE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM THAT, YOU KNOW, BRINGS COST SAVINGS TO FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM, AS I MENTIONED IN ONE OF MY SLIDES BEFORE WE'VE BEEN PART OF THIS PROGRAM SINCE 1991. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCALE FROM 10 TO 1, WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS OVER THE YEARS. AND THIS IS A VOLUNTARY, VOLUNTARY INCENTIVE PROGRAM BY FEMA.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS WHEN FEMA RECOGNIZED DALLAS FOR ACHIEVING CLASS THREE.
AS WE ARE THE HIGHEST RATED TEXAS COMMUNITY WITH THE CLASS THREE WITH THE 35% PREMIUM REDUCTION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS FAR AS NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAD FOR 2024, WE HAD OVER 2600 FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES.
THAT GIVES US ABOUT $788 MILLION IN COVERAGE AND AT A 35% DISCOUNT.
WE HAVE ABOUT 276 MILLION IN PREMIUM SAVINGS.
SO WE CONTINUE MAKING PROGRESS PROGRESS AS PART OF THE CRS PROGRAM.
WE ARE HOPING TO ADVANCE TO CLASS TWO IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WITH THIS SLIDE, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT AN INDEPENDENT STUDY CONDUCTED BY
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THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF BUILDING SCIENCES AT THE DIRECTION OF THE US CONGRESS.THE STUDY BASICALLY ASSESSED THE FUTURE SAVINGS FROM MITIGATION ACTIVITIES WHICH FOUND THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF NATURAL HAZARD MITIGATION SAVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AN AVERAGE OF $4 IN AVOIDED FUTURE LOSSES.
SO BASICALLY, AS WE PUT IN A DOLLAR OF NATURAL HAZARD MITIGATION, THERE'S A COST SAVINGS OF $4.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IN CONCLUSION PROTECTING DALLAS TODAY.
PREPARING FOR TOMORROW. CITY OF DALLAS FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
AND WE CURRENTLY USE UP TO DATE SCIENCE AND DATA TO PLAN FOR FUTURE RISK.
AND ALSO, WE ENSURE RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT REDUCES FLOOD IMPACTS.
WE CONTINUE TO BE PARTNERS WITH STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES TO BUILD A MORE RESILIENT CITY.
AND WITH THAT, WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU KNOW, THE MESSAGES FLOOD IS REAL.
AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK HARD TO PROTECT OUR PUBLIC, PROTECT OUR FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT AREAS.
SO, WITH THAT, WE CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION, AND WE OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO DWU AND ALL THE ACCOLADES AND AWARDS.
THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM THAT I ASKED STAFF TO PREPARE AROUND HERE AT CITY HALL.
WE LOVE TO SAY THAT YOU CAN FIT THE CITY OF ATLANTA IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
AND WHILE THAT'S GREAT, I DO WORRY ABOUT HOW BURDENSOME WE'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND FEMA WITH CITY REGULATION AND ADDING ADDITIONAL DOLLAR COST TO PERMITS AND MAKING THE BUILDER BRING IN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO BUILD IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.
AND SO, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION THIS MORNING.
AND WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO START VIRTUALLY WITH GO WITH COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS.
THANK YOU, CHAIR MORENO. AND THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT ABOUT GROWING OUR SOUTHERN DALLAS.
YOU KNOW, JUST DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND THE REALITIES OF FLOODPLAIN, ET CETERA.
MY QUESTIONS, MR. VALERIO, ARE MORE ABOUT SOMETHING WE SPEAK ABOUT WEEKLY.
AND THAT IS OUR HOW THIS INTERSECTS WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE CONDITIONS THAT RESIDENTS ARE SUFFERING WITH THEIR HOMES FLOODING NOW BECAUSE OF THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE THAT WE NOW HAVE. I MEAN, DALLAS HAS ENJOYED TREMENDOUS GROWTH.
THE REALITY IS, WE'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE WHOSE HOMES ARE FLOODING, AND IT JUST MAKES ME THINK ABOUT THIS NOT ONLY IN TERMS OF THE DWI LANE, BUT ALSO HOW WE INTERSECT WITH DEV SERVICES AND HOW WE LOOK AT THIS AS A CITY WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WE NEED AND WANT AND THAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT.
BUT HOW WE GET AHEAD OF THIS AND DON'T CREATE PROBLEMS IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A GREAT SOLUTION FOR, EXCEPT FOR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT 5 TO 8 YEARS FOR AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT TO COME ALONG.
CAN YOU SPEAK MORE TO THAT INTERSECTION? SURE.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER, CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON? SURE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? LET ME GET CLOSER. YES. AS FAR AS THE FLOODING CONDITION, I LIKE TO FOR THE GENERAL CONVERSATION POINT OUT THAT FLOODING OCCURS FOR A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT FACTORS, RIGHT? SO ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THE RAINFALL INTENSITY AND PATTERNS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH DALLAS IF WE GET TOO MUCH RAIN IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THAT WILL CREATE, MOST LIKELY CREATE PROBLEMS IN CERTAIN SECTORS OF DALLAS THAT'S ONE IN COMBINATION WITH UNDERSIZED STORMWATER SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE ROUGHLY IN DALLAS.
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ABOUT 85% OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS UNDERSIZED AND IN COMBINATION WITH ANY OBSTRUCTIONS IN OUR SYSTEM OR CREEK.AND CHANNELS THAT WILL POTENTIALLY IN COMBINATION OF THE RAINFALL PATTERNS, IS GOING TO, UNFORTUNATELY, CREATE SOME FLOODING CONCERNS. STREET FLOODING.
NOW, AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND ALIGN WITH THE FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS.
WE ARE. WE ADOPTED THE BUILDING CODES AND ALSO AS PART OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS FOR DEVELOPMENT AND FOR FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT. ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT, THEY WILL NEED TO RUN THROUGH OUR FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT TEAM AND, AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO ADVERSE IMPACT AT THE PROJECT SITE, DOWNSTREAM OR UPSTREAM, MOST LIKELY. I WOULD SAY THAT STREET FLOODING CONDITIONS THAT WE EXPERIENCE IN DALLAS ARE FOR A COMBINATION OF ALL THOSE FACTORS THAT I JUST MENTIONED. IT WOULD BE ON SITE SPECIFIC TO DETERMINE IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER CONDITIONS THAT ARE IMPACTING THE COMMUNITY.
AS FAR AS FLOODING CONDITION, AS FAR AS WHAT DALLAS WATER UTILITIES IS DOING LONG TERM, WE ARE MASTER PLANNING THE STORMWATER SYSTEM. AND WE ARE ABOUT TO WRAP UP OUR FIRST MASTER PLAN, WHERE WE'RE GETTING MORE YOU KNOW, STRENGTHENING OUR PROGRAMS AND OUR PRACTICES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP OUR SYSTEM MAINTAINED.
AND ALSO, THAT WE HAVE A ROADMAP FOR AS FAR AS THE CAPITAL PROGRAM WITH THE FIRST THIS YEAR, I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT $60 MILLION ON THE, ON THE CAPITAL PROGRAM FOR STORMWATER.
SO, WE ARE HOPING AS PART OF MASTER PLANNING TO START BRINGING THOSE PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO UPSIZE OUR SYSTEM BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, 85% OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS UNDERSIZED.
SO WE UNFORTUNATELY EXPERIENCED STREET FLOODING IN CERTAIN SECTORS OF DALLAS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE, YEAH, I MEAN, WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THE NUMBER WAS AS HIGH AS 85% OF INFRASTRUCTURE BEING UNDERSIZED.
I MEAN, THAT'S A MANAGEMENT FAILURE. THIS PLAN SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED 20 YEARS AGO.
AS DALLAS WAS BEGINNING TO GROW SO MUCH. SO, THERE IS AN ASPECT, I MEAN, THE RAINFALL.
NO, WE CANNOT CONTROL MAYBE ON A GLOBAL LEVEL THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH CLIMATE.
BUT WE KNOW IT TAKES TIME AND MONEY TO ENACT THAT.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE HEADING FOR ANY AREA THAT IS WHERE THERE'S NEW DEVELOPMENT OR WHERE THERE IS REDEVELOPMENT, WHERE PEOPLE ARE KNOCKING DOWN THEIR ONE STORY HOMES AND COMING BACK WITH TWO STORIES AND COVERING MORE OF THE LOT.
THAT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RESULTS IN NOT. I MEAN, WE'RE STREET FLOODING IS HOME FLOODING.
IT'S HOME FLOODING. AND SO YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S THE CONCERN THAT I'VE GOT AND WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT.
AND I'M ASKING THAT WE DO LOOK AT THE BUILDING CODES AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH REGARD TO IS IT OUR LOT SIZE ISSUE? IS IT THE SURFACES THAT WE ARE ALLOWING THAT DON'T PROVIDE ANY KIND OF RUNOFF OR ABSORPTION ON THE PROPERTY, AS IT USED TO BE WHEN PEOPLE HAD A BIG YARD OR HAD OTHER MECHANISMS? NOW WE'RE SENDING IT TO THE STREET OR THE ALLEY.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EROSION VELOCITY, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE CREATING.
AND SO WE NEED TO BALANCE WHAT WE'VE BEEN SKEWED ONE DIRECTION IN, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, OUR BUILDING TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING HOW IT TOUCHES YOU AND HOW IT AFFECTS SOME RESIDENTS AND HOW IT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO AFFECT RESIDENTS.
IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THIS THROUGH A CAREFUL EXAMINATION OF WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING, BECAUSE WHAT I'M SO OFTEN TOLD IS, WELL, AN ENGINEER EVALUATED THIS AND STAMPED IT AND SAID, WELL, OKAY, I GET THAT.
BUT HOMES ARE FLOODING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AFTER A RAIN.
AND SO I JUST WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE DETENTION MECHANISMS THAT WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE BEEN THERE LONG BEFORE US, I MEAN, CHANNELS OF CREEKS AND WATERWAYS. BUT THIS KIND OF EROSIONAL VELOCITY IS FILLING THOSE FASTER AND MAYBE TO A GREATER DEGREE
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THAT'S BACKING THINGS UP, WHICH OUR RESIDENTS ARE LIVING WITH IN THEIR OWN HOMES.SO THAT IS JUST THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS HAVE.
AND NOW IS THE TIME OR A LITTLE AFTER THE POINT.
BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS NOW. SO I THINK WE NEED A WORK, A WORK GROUP WITH OUR DEV SERVICES TEAM TO THINK ABOUT ANY KIND OF POLICY CHANGE WE MIGHT NEED TO ENACT OR CONSIDER. LET'S BRING IN OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS TO SEE HOW WE CAN GET AHEAD OF THIS COUNCIL MEMBER.
ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'M NOT SURE IF OUR ACM CAN ADDRESS THAT.
I KNOW THAT ZACH WAS LOOKING AT CURB CUTS AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
I'M NOT SURE. IF THAT. OKAY, SO ZACH IS LOOKING AT THAT, AND BUT WE'LL HAVE STAFF FOLLOW UP.
BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG CONCERN. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
THE OTHER QUESTION IS JUST ABOUT IT'S GREAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE DALLAS IS CERTAINLY IN A TOP TIER WITH REGARD TO OUR RATING THAT ALLOWS OUR RESIDENTS TO GET GREATER PERCENTAGE INSURANCE COVERAGE. FLOOD INSURANCE.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO EVEN RAISE OUR LEVEL MORE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE INTO A DIFFERENT BRACKET WHERE INSTEAD OF 35% FLOOD INSURANCE DISCOUNT, WE GET 40%? IS THAT POSSIBLE? DO WE MEET ANY OF THOSE CRITERIA? YES. SO WE ARE YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT ENGINEERS AND OUR FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT TEAM TO ADVANCE TO A CLASS TWO.
SO FROM THE LAST UPDATE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE TEAM, WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO ACHIEVE A CLASS TWO, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A COST, AN ADDITIONAL COST SAVINGS TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, GOING FROM A 35% TO 40% DISCOUNT.
SO THAT'S THE GOAL AND I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE.
COUNCIL MEMBER WELL, I DIDN'T EXPECT TO HEAR THAT.
SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS. THANK YOU. CHAIR. GRACEY.
CHAIR. MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. SO, ON PAGE 11.
WELL, FIRST I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS IS VERY INTERESTING.
SO THANK YOU, CHAIR MORENO, FOR BRINGING THIS PRESENTATION FORWARD.
ON PAGE 11, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACRES OF FLOODPLAIN THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
OBVIOUSLY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LAKES AND LEVEES ARE AND OPEN SPACE, BUT CAN YOU GO OVER WHAT THE 9811 ACRES ARE? YES. THESE ARE THE 9000 ACRES THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
WE MAY HAVE THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE CREEKS OR CHANNELS THAT ARE WITHIN THIS AREA, AND ALSO ANY VACANT LOT THAT, YOU KNOW, SITS ALONG THE CREEK.
SO, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 9800 ACRES THAT FALL IN THAT CATEGORY.
WELL, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VACANT LAND AND OPEN SPACE? OPEN 1000. YES. THE OPEN SPACE FALLS WITHIN ANY PARKLAND.
ANY ROADS WITHIN DALLAS. AND ALSO, THIS INCLUDES THE GREAT TRINITY FOREST, WHICH WE HAVE ROUGHLY ABOUT 5000 ACRES WITHIN THAT LAND. AND THAT'S WHAT REPRESENTS THE OPEN SPACE AREA.
SO, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE OPEN SPACE IS OWNED BY THE CITY, COMPARED TO THE 9800 ACRES? COUNCIL MEMBER. SO OPEN SPACE IS BASICALLY ANY AREA OF LAND THAT'S USEFUL TO US FOR BENEFICIAL USE TO THE FLOODPLAIN OR LIKE PARK AREA LANDS. IT'S A COMBINATION OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATELY OWNED LAND.
SO OPEN SPACE WOULD BE YOUR PARKS, CEMETERIES, AREA GOLF COURSES.
AND SO HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH IT BETWEEN THAT AND VACANT LAND.
SO MOST OPEN SPACE. OPEN SPACE AREAS ARE EITHER OWNED BY CITY DALLAS OR IF IT'S PRIVATELY OWNED,
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SOMETIMES IT'S DEED RESTRICTED TO RESTRICT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF STRUCTURES OR COMMERCIAL USE OR RESIDENTIAL USE.CAN YOU GO THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EACH OF THESE ITEMS? SO, THE ADOPTED BUILDING CODES, IT'S RELATED TO THE 2018 BUILDING CODES AT THE CITY DALLAS THE ADOPTED.
SO, IN SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS, IT REQUIRES YOU TO BUILD WITH LIKE FLOOD RESISTANT MATERIALS OR, YOU KNOW, SOME WERE BASICALLY ANCHORING DOWN STRUCTURES.
SO THAT'S JUST OVERALL THE CITY BUILDING CODE.
SO, WE REQUIRE YOU TO EXCAVATE AN EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OF VOLUME SO YOU DON'T LOSE THE VOLUME OF FLOOD WATER THAT COULD BE STORED ON A SITE FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER. ELEVATION. BASICALLY, WE WANT THAT POST DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE NOT BASICALLY INCREASING FLOODING. THE FLOOD ELEVATION, WHICH WILL INCREASE THE FLOOD AREA THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR NO INCREASES THE RELATIVE VELOCITY. WE WANT THE DEVELOPMENT TO BASICALLY TO NOT INCREASE THE VELOCITY.
SO, IT INCREASES EROSION DOWNSTREAM OF THE PROPERTY.
AND FREEBOARD IS BASICALLY A FREEBOARD IS THE HEIGHT THAT THE ELEMENT OF STRUCTURE, SUCH AS THE FINISHED FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, IS ABOVE THE FLOOD ELEVATION. SO FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE REQUIRE THE BUILDING PAD TO BE TWO FEET ABOVE THE FLOOD ELEVATION AND THEN THE FINISHED FLOOR, THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, TO BE THREE FEET ABOVE THE FLOOD ELEVATION. OKAY, SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN EQUIVALENT VOLUME, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE MITIGATION, IS THERE EVER A CONSIDERATION THAT MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE LIKE MAYBE THERE'S ALREADY AN ISSUE THERE? ARE WE ALLOWED TO REQUIRE MORE? SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S IN CERTAIN AREAS OF DALLAS. THERE HAVE BEEN DONE STUDIES WHERE THE CONSULTANT HAS DETERMINED LIKE MORE MITIGATION HAS IS REQUIRED.
THAT'S MAINLY LIMITED BEHIND THE EAST AND WEST LEVEE AREAS.
FOR OTHER AREAS IN DALLAS, WE HAVEN'T DONE THE STUDY YET TO DETERMINE IF MITIGATION IS REQUIRED.
SO IF YOU HAD A STUDY, COULD YOU REQUIRE SOMEBODY TO DO MORE THAN WHAT THEY WERE RECLAIMING? IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF STUDY AND POSSIBLY UPDATES TO THE CITY'S FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS.
OKAY, WELL, I HOPE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STUDYING.
AND WHAT IF THERE DOES BECOME A RISE IN THE WATER SURFACE ELEVATION.
SO RISES AND SURFACE ELEVATION. WELL, THEY GENERALLY OCCUR BECAUSE OF TWO DIFFERENT REASONS.
ONE IS THAT WE DO UPDATED FLOOD STUDY WITH USING NEWER DATA THAT SHOWS INCREASES IN FLOOD ELEVATION.
AND AT THAT POINT WE CONTINUE WE REGULATE TO THE HIGH ELEVATION.
SO THEORETICALLY THERE SHOULD BE NO RISE WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN AFTER DEVELOPMENT.
BUT DO WE EVER GO BACK AND SEE IF THERE IS? AND THEN IS THAT DEVELOPER REQUIRED TO THEN DO ADDITIONAL MITIGATION? HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO, EVERY TIME WE UPDATE A FLOODPLAIN, WE ALWAYS INCORPORATE THE PRIOR [INAUDIBLE] PERMITS WITHIN THE NEW FLOOD STUDY UPDATE. SO WE HAVEN'T GONE BACK TO A PRIOR DEVELOPER TO TELL THEM TO MITIGATE MORE OF THE RISE. IF THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WE DON'T GO BACK.
WE HAVE I DON'T RECALL A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GONE BACK TO DEVELOPER TELLING THEM THAT YOU CAUSED THE RISE TO AND TO THEN TO, INTO ADDRESS IT. I DON'T RECALL SUCH A SITUATION OF THAT HAPPENING BEFORE.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT.
SO I REMEMBER WHEN WE GOT THE TIER THREE OR CLASS THREE DESIGNATION FOR THE CRS.
SO, WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO GET TO TWO? YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE PRETTY CLOSE.
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SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DOING A REPETITIVE LOSS AREA ANALYSIS PLAN, WHICH IS WE'RE ANALYZING PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A REPEATED FLOOD CLAIMS WITHIN A TEN YEAR PERIOD. AND WE'RE DEVELOPING A MITIGATION PLAN FOR THAT.THAT'S CURRENTLY ONGOING TASK. AND THAT'S PROBABLY COMPLETED OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
THAT'S ONE POSSIBLE AREA WHERE WE COULD GET POINTS TO ELEVATE TO CLASS TWO.
ANOTHER AREA IS WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A PLAN FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY AN OUTREACH PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT EITHER DOING OURSELVES OR PARTNERING WITH THE, WITH NCT WITH THAT POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY. AND THAT'LL ALSO GIVE US POINTS TO ADVANCE IN THE CLASS.
WELL, I DO THINK THIS IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT FINANCIALLY FOR OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED.
SO, I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THAT EXTRA LENGTH.
AND I LOVE THAT YOU SHOWED HOW FEW CITIES ACTUALLY ARE AT THAT LEVEL.
SO THANK YOU. ON PAGE 17, WHEN YOU'RE SHOWING US THAT THERE'S 2671 FLOOD INSURANCE POLICIES, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S BY THE PUBLIC, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. THAT'S PUBLIC FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY PROVIDED BY FEMA. DOES THAT INCLUDE ANY PRIVATE POLICIES? OKAY. BUT HOW MANY DON'T HAVE THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE? THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR IT. I CAN'T SAY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THAT'S THE ONLY REQUIREMENT. SO IF THEY BUY A NEW HOME IN A FLOODPLAIN AND THEY HAVE A BACK MORTGAGE, THEY HAVE TO PURCHASE FLOOD INSURANCE. OTHERWISE, ONCE THEY FINISH PAYING OFF THAT MORTGAGE OR THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY STRAIGHT ON CASH, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PURCHASE FLOOD INSURANCE. AND IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, THE MESSAGING FROM OUR TEAM AS WE GO THROUGH COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PUBLIC EVENTS, THAT THE FLOODING CAN OCCUR ANYWHERE. SO PURCHASING A FLOOD INSURANCE IS RECOMMENDED EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU. HOWEVER, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN, I'M CONCERNED THAT THERE IS A LOW PARTICIPATION, AND THEN THEY COME BACK TO US AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FLOODED OUT.
AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, THIS WAS ACTUALLY PREDICTABLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNEW AT SOME POINT IT WOULD FLOOD.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING OTHER THAN REQUIREMENTS BY MORTGAGES, ARE THERE ANY OTHER KIND OF NOTIFICATIONS FOR RESIDENTS? SO EVERY YEAR WE SEND OUT THOUSANDS OF NOTIFICATION LETTERS TO PEOPLE WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN, PROPERTY OWNERS BEHIND OUR LEVEES, PROPERTY OWNERS DOWNSTREAM OF OUR DAMS, AND REPETITIVE LOSS PROPERTIES OF THE FLOOD RISK.
AND WE RECOMMEND THEM TO PURCHASE FLOOD INSURANCE OR COME TALK TO US.
WE SEND OUT ANNUAL NOTICE EVERY YEAR AROUND THE FALL.
AND SO SINCE YOU ARE SENDING OUT THE NOTICES, I GUESS YOU DO KNOW HOW MANY PROPERTIES SHOULD BE INSURED, RIGHT? WE WE COULD WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU ABOUT THE EXACT NUMBER OF PROPERTIES.
THOSE THOSE PROPERTIES ALSO INCLUDE VACANT LAND.
OR WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU TO DETERMINE THE EXACT NUMBER OF PROPERTIES.
SO IN LOOKING AT THIS IN A BROADER VIEW, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OR ANY DATA THAT SHOWS HOW FREQUENTLY THE FLOODPLAIN ISSUES ARE INHIBITING DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT JUST CAN'T BE DONE. IT'S EITHER TOO EXPENSIVE OR IT'S JUST NOT EVEN POSSIBLE.
IT'S JUST HOW MUCH THEY'RE WILLING TO SPEND TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
OKAY. AND THEN GOING BACK TO THIS IS MY LAST SECTION HERE.
GOING BACK TO YOUR COMMENT, ABOUT 85% OF THE SYSTEM BEING UNDERSIZED.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO GET IT TO BE THE RIGHT SIZE? YES. OVER THE YEARS, THE 85%, YOU KNOW, UNDERSIZED PERCENTAGE OF UNDERSIZED SYSTEM COMES FROM DECADES
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AGO. SO WE HAVE AS DEVELOPMENT HAS INCREASED SINCE, YOU KNOW, STARTING IN THE 1950S AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS IN PLACE FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WE HAVE MORE GREEN SPACES, MORE GREEN AREA, LESS ROOFTOPS AND ROADS AND PARKING LOTS AND ALL OF THAT AS DEVELOPMENT HAS MODERNIZED. AND YOU KNOW, BEFORE 2018, WE WERE SOLELY DEPENDENT ON, ON BOND PROPOSITIONS IN, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE, THE FLOOD PROTECTION INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, WE'RE JUST BEHIND BASICALLY, THAT'S THE SIMPLE RESPONSE AS A RESULT OF LACK OF FUNDING.I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE ONE BIG COMPONENT. NATIONWIDE STORMWATER SYSTEMS ARE STRUGGLING YOU KNOW, FOR THE LACK OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY FOR MAKING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION RELATED TO STORMWATER.
SO WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT DALLAS IN 2018 WE MERGED AS ONE WATER GROUP.
WE STARTED THAT PROCESS AS BEING PART OF THE WATER, WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER.
AND SINCE THEN, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESTRUCTURE OUR PROGRAMS AND BE ABLE TO TO START OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM IN SIMILAR WAYS WE HAVE FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER AS PART OF YOU KNOW THE SAME PROCESS TO DELIVER DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS. WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS BY STARTING OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM WITH 25 MILLION, THEN 40, AND THEN I THINK WE ARE AT 60 MILLION PER YEAR.
DRAINAGE IS COMPLICATED IN A WAY THAT WE NEED TO MASTER PLAN DRAINAGE AREAS SO THAT WE CAN BRING THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU KNOW, STARTING FROM DOWNSTREAM AND MOVING UPSTREAM AND BE ABLE TO BRING SOME FLOOD RELIEF.
SO JUST OVER TIME, WE JUST, THE RATE OF POPULATION IN DALLAS, IT'S HAS BEEN GREATER THAN THE RATE OF DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF OUR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
OKAY. SO JUST IN FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, DO YOU HAVE A MAP WHERE WE HAVE THE 15% THAT IS APPROPRIATELY SIZED? I MEAN, IS IT ITS APPROPRIATE SIZE IN NEWER PARTS OF THE CITY? IT'S MORE APPROPRIATELY SIZED IN NEWER PROJECTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
I MEAN, CAN YOU SOMEHOW DESCRIBE THAT? WE DO HAVE AN EXHIBIT, BUT JUST TO SUMMARIZE, AS YOU GO FURTHER OUT TO FURTHER OUT WITHIN CITY LIMITS, THEY'RE USUALLY MORE THEY'LL USUALLY BUILT OUT TO HIGHER DRAINAGE STANDARDS.
SO THE CENTER PART OF THE CITY PROBABLY WAS, WILL HAVE YOU BUILT TO LOWER DRAINAGE STANDARDS, BUT NEW DEVELOPMENT AREAS. AND AS YOU GO FURTHER OUT INTO THE CITY LIMITS, THOSE ARE USUALLY AREAS WHERE ARE BUILT TO HIGHER STANDARDS.
OKAY. WELL, I THINK I'M AS FAR OUT AS YOU CAN GET, AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT WE STILL HAVE SOME FLOODING ISSUES, BUT I APPRECIATE IT. AND THANK YOU. THIS WAS VERY EDUCATIONAL.
I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION. CHAIR WEST. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, GUYS . I HAVE A FEW FOLLOW UPS. ONE IS I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE GROWTH IN OUR SOUTHERN SECTOR, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON SMALLER PROJECTS BECAUSE OF THE ADDED COST.
AND SO CAN YOU GO OVER THE BUILD PERMIT? WHAT? THE COST OF A FILL PERMIT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO, FOR A FILL PERMIT, IF THEY'RE LOCATED IN A FLOODPLAIN OR IF THEY'RE LOCATED WITHIN THE UNMAPPED AREAS, THAT'S UPGRADING 100 ACRES OR MORE. THE APPLICATION FEE TO EXCEED DALLAS IS $8,150.
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? THE APPLICATION FEE FOR TDS IS $8,150.
THAT'S JUST OUR APPLICATION FEE. THE. THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO NEED TO RETAIN AN ENGINEER.
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HUNDRED DOLLARS TO A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY UPDATE THE FEMA MAPS.AND THEN SO THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE FILL THAT ACTUALLY THE EXTRA DIRT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BROUGHT IN ANY RETAINING WALLS, ANY ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT FOR SOMEONE TO BUILD IN A FLOODPLAIN? NO, THAT'S JUST ALL THE PERMITTING FEES. OKAY.
WELL, THAT THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, RIGHT? WHY WOULD A DEVELOPER BUILD, PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR IN A FLOODPLAIN, WHEN THEY CAN GO OUT AND BUILD IN OTHER PARTS OF OUR CITY? SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, I UNDERSTAND AGAIN, PUBLIC SAFETY, PROPERTY SAFETY AND THE INSURANCE MAKING INSURANCE AVAILABLE. BUT WHEN THAT NUMBER IS SO LOW, I REALLY QUESTION WHY OUR, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WHY THE STANDARD IS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, REGULATION IS HIGHER THAN FEMA. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS BECAUSE OF THAT INSURANCE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE HAVE.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO WE HAVE HIRED AS ONE IS TO PROTECT THE LIFE AND PROPERTY BECAUSE FLOOD THE FLOOD DATA THAT WE HAVE, IT'S BASED OFF OF PAST DATA.
IT'S A LAGGING PROCESS WHERE THE FLOOD MAPS THAT PEOPLE WILL LOOK UP ON FEMA MAPS.
COULD WE DEVELOP OUR FEMA MAPS TO BE UP IN SOME AREAS ARE UPDATED IN 2014, BUT THE FLOOD STUDY FOR THAT 2014 MAP UPDATE COULD BE POSSIBLY 510 YEARS EVEN OLDER THAN THAT. SO WE HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS TO ADD A BUFFER, A FACTOR OF SAFETY WHEN YOU KNOW, WHEN WE IF WE DO A NEW FLOOD STUDY THAT SHOWS THAT, YES, THE NEW RAINFALL DATA OR THE BETTER GROUND DATA SHOWS THAT THEY'RE STILL PROTECTED.
AND THIS IS A REAL QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO BUILD ON PIER AND BEAM AND FLOODPLAINS WHEN THERE'S EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN THAT WERE BUILT, YOU KNOW, 50 OR 100 YEARS AGO THAT ARE STILL STANDING ON PIER AND BEAM.
SO, ANY HOMES CONSTRUCTED BEFORE THEY'LL PUT IN THE FEMA MAPS, BEFORE WE BEFORE WE JOINED THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM OR BEFORE THE MAPS WERE UPDATED TO INCLUDE THEM, THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN SO THEY CAN STILL REMAIN IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
THEY'LL JUST THEY'LL BE SUBJECT TO FLOODING, TO FLOODPLAIN REGULATION REQUIREMENTS IF THEY WANT TO DO RENOVATIONS OR ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS. OUR REGULATIONS OUTLINED THAT ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION THE BUILDING PAD MUST BE ELEVATED ON FILL, SO THEY MUST RECLAIM LAND TO ORDER, TO CONSTRUCT, TO CONSTRUCT THE AREA.
THAT'S PART OF FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS. THAT'S FEMA REGULATION.
THAT'S THE CITY OF DALLAS REGULATIONS. OKAY. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MITIGATE FLOODING? WE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS TALKED ABOUT IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPSIZING SOME OF OUR SYSTEMS. WHAT ELSE ARE WE DOING TO MITIGATE FLOODING? SO, FROM A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS STANDPOINT, WE HAVE OUR RECURRING INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES.
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE HOTSPOTS, WHAT WE CALL INTERNALLY.
THOSE ARE AREAS THAT ARE MORE FREQUENT, FREQUENT FOR FLOODING.
AND AS WE MONITOR RAINFALL CONDITIONS, WE HAVE OUR CREWS MONITORING INLETS, STORMWATER LINES TO MAKE SURE THAT ARE NOT OBSTRUCTED, THAT ARE CLEAN OF AND IN, YOU KNOW, TRASH DEBRIS.
WE CLEAN THEM UP AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE 100% CLEAR OPERABLE TO RECEIVE RAIN EVENT.
RIGHT. SO WE TRY TO KEEP OUR SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE.
WE WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS AS WELL. WE GET REGULAR CALLS FOR THOSE HOTSPOTS THAT ARE ON THE LIST, AND THEY CONTACT US FOR RECURRING INSPECTIONS.
SO WE HAVE THAT WITHIN OUR CREWS INTERNALLY TO KEEP IT MAINTAINED AND, AND OPERABLE CONDITIONS.
SO. THAT'S ASIDE FROM THE ENGINEERING, LONG TERM PIECES OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE MASTER PLANNING. WE HAVE DIFFERENT DRAINAGE AREAS IN DIFFERENT STAGES IN STUDY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
SO, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THOSE. BUT AS YOU KNOW, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION TAKE TIME.
AND SO, YOU'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A BIG PROJECT, THE MILL CREEK TUNNEL RELIEF DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
I BELIEVE THAT'S ABOUT TWO YEARS DELAYED. CAN YOU GIVE ME A BALLPARK WHEN WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO BE COMPLETED? YES. WE'RE AT THE FINAL STAGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
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25, POTENTIALLY OF 26. IS THAT. RIGHT.COUNCIL MEMBER SARAH STANDIFER, DIRECTOR, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.
THE MILL CREEK PROJECT ITSELF, YOU'RE CORRECT, IS A COUPLE OF YEARS BEHIND.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE KIND OF END OF 2028 FOR FINAL.
SO, ONCE WE COMPLETE THE BIG TRUNK LINE, RIGHT, THE BIG TRUNK LINE, THAT'S THE FIVE MILE TUNNEL.
THEN WE WILL HAVE TO GO INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF THE THREE DRAINAGE BASINS AND BEGIN TO INCREASE ALL OF THOSE PIPE SIZES, SIMILAR TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS MENTIONED, THAT NEED ADDITIONAL PIPE SIZING UNDERNEATH.
THANK YOU. WHEN IT COMES TO PRIVATE AND PUBLIC OWNED PROPERTY, I AM CONCERNED WITH HOW CLEAN THEY ARE. AND SO HOW DO WE I, AND I KNOW I RUN INTO THIS QUITE OFTEN IS DETERMINING WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY.
WHAT SYSTEM DO WE HAVE IN PLACE TO RELATIVELY EASILY BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY RESPONSIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO MAINTAINING AN AREA? YES. YOU KNOW, MOST OF THOSE SERVICE REQUESTS THAT WE GET ARE WITHIN CREEK AND CHANNEL AREAS.
WE HAVE 700 MILES OF CREEK AND CHANNELS ACROSS DALLAS, AND ONLY 161 MILES ARE PUBLIC.
AND IT'S JUST A PROCESS INTERNALLY THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT PLAT MAPS.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT DCAD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RESPONDING WITH OUR CITY CREWS, OR WE HAVE TO GET WORK WITH CODE COMPLIANCE FOR COORDINATION PURPOSES AND WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
BUT IT'S ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS DEPENDING ON WHAT AREAS WE'RE ADDRESSING.
OKAY. THANK YOU. AND AS I START TO WRAP UP HERE, WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT WE HAVE ENCAMPMENTS IN A LOT OF OUR CREEK BEDS AND IN OUR GREENBELTS. DOES THAT ADD ANY CHALLENGES TO KEEPING THOSE AREAS CLEAN? YOU KNOW, WE ALSO FACE DOWNTOWN WITH STREET FEEDINGS AND FIND A LOT OF STYROFOAM CONTAINERS IN OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. HOW DO YOU GUYS ADDRESS IS IT JUST ONCE IT'S FLOODED, OR HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT WE NEED TO GO OUT AND CLEAN THOSE DRAINAGE SYSTEMS OUT? SURE. WE DO. OUR CREEK AND CHANNEL MAINTENANCE, INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND WE IDENTIFIED THOSE AREAS THAT ARE OCCUPIED BY HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS.
AND WE WORK TOGETHER WITH OES TO ADDRESS THOSE AREAS.
SO THEY PLAY A BIG ROLE IN IDENTIFYING THOSE AND HELP US CLEAN UP THOSE AREAS WITHIN CREEK OR CHANNELS OR AREAS THAT ARE CONTROLLED BY DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. NOW, THOSE SOME OF THOSE AREAS GET CHALLENGED AS WE ARE ENCOUNTERING THOSE WITHIN PRIVATE PROPERTY AS WELL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP INSPECTING AND MAINTAINING THOSE AREAS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT NEEDS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. SEEING NONE. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM B, THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION QUARTERLY REPORT ON HOMELESSNESS.
THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT AGENDA ITEM. SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK PULSE OF THE COMMITTEE ON WHETHER Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT VIRTUALLY, OR IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT ONE IN PERSON SO I CAN SEE A SHOW OF HANDS ON WHO WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THAT TODAY? OKAY. AND THOSE THAT WANT TO HEAR IT IN PERSON. SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL SKIP ITEM B AND MOVE TO BRIEFING MEMO C.
GOOD MORNING. THOR ERICKSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING BRIEFING. ITEM C IS OUR QUARTERLY REPORT THROUGH THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. OKAY. CHAIR WEST, ANY QUESTIONS?
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I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK SO, BUT COULD YOU ? CAN YOU RUN THROUGH IT AND COME BACK TO ME? SURE. THANKS. CHAIR GRACEY. CHAIR MENDELSOHN.OKAY. I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ON THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES.
YOU'RE SHOWING LET'S SEE. 12 HOMES SOLD. OKAY.
SO. I'M SORRY. LET ME LET ME PULL UP THE RIGHT PRESENTATION.
SO SORRY. YEAH, I HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. I'M, LIKE JUGGLING BETWEEN MY SCREENS HERE.
EXACTLY. OKAY. SO, I'LL JUST TELL YOU WHERE IT'S AT WHILE I PULL IT UP TO MATCH WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
YOU HAVE A CARRYOVER OF 10 MILLION, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE 10 MILLION REMAINING.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT PART.
FOR PAGE THREE. HOME REPAIR. HOME REPAIR. THANK YOU.
SO, THE PRIOR YEAR CARRYOVER WAS THE 10 MILLION.
THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR THE YEAR WAS RIGHT AROUND THE 8.4 MILLION.
BASED ON WHAT HAS BEEN COMMITTED IN THE PIPELINE AND OUR EXPENDITURES TO DATE.
WHEN WE DO THAT MATH, WE'RE RIGHT AROUND THAT $10 MILLION MARK.
I ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING WORK ON THIS.
THAT IS AN OPEN PROCUREMENT RIGHT NOW. AND WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME PROPOSALS.
OKAY. AND ARE YOU LOOKING TO ENGAGE THEM BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? YES. OKAY, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A RAMP UP PERIOD NO MATTER WHO YOU CHOOSE.
THEY WILL. YES. OKAY. SO ARE YOU EXPECTING TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND MORE OF THESE DOLLARS? YES. WE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPEND DOLLARS THROUGHOUT THE END OF THE THROUGH THE CALENDAR YEAR UNTIL WE HAVE A VENDOR SELECTED AND WE WORK ON THAT RAMP UP PERIOD.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO EXPEND DOLLARS FOR HOME REPAIR.
SO WHAT'S YOUR SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR ESTIMATED NUMBER OF HOMES COMPLETED THROUGH THE CITY? RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ON TRACK THROUGH THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR TO BE RIGHT AROUND THAT 70 TO 80 MARK WITH THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT WE HAVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND ARE IN OUR PIPELINE FOR CONTRACTS.
OKAY. WELL, THAT DOESN'T SHOW. I MEAN, IT SHOWS THAT YOU'VE GOT 20 IN THE PROCESS AND 19 COMPLETED.
THAT'S CORRECT. THIS REPORT IS ALSO THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF MARCH.
BUT I CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THE REPORT TO DATE. OKAY.
WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THIS CONTINUES TO HURT MY HEART WHEN I SEE IT BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I LEFT REBUILDING TOGETHER, WE HAD DONE 70 HOMES THE YEAR PRIOR ON ABOUT A THIRD OF AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU'VE GOT.
SO THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING ON HERE UNDER ARMY UNKNOWN.
AND QUITE A BIT OF THE HOMES FOR HOME REPAIR HAVE ARMY UNKNOWN.
IN FACT, THE MAJORITY. HOW COULD IT BE KNOWN? UNKNOWN. ISN'T IT REQUIRED FOR SERVICE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN A CERTAIN? AM I? THAT IS CORRECT. THROUGH THE MONEY THAT WE HAD FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, THAT MONEY WAS FOR HOMEOWNERS AND QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACTS. SO, THERE WAS PRESUMED AMI ELIGIBILITY BECAUSE BY DEFINITION, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS ARE UPPER INCOME ELIGIBLE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU DIDN'T INCOME VERIFY THEM? WE UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT THE QUALIFICATIONS ALLOWED US TO SERVE PEOPLE WITHIN THE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACKS.
OKAY, WELL, MAYBE YOU COULD CHANGE THAT LABEL TO CENSUS TRACK QUALIFICATION AS OPPOSED TO UNKNOWN.
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YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, I'LL SAY LIKE, YOU KNOW IT STARTS WITH DHAP ON PAGE FIVE. BUT IT GOES THROUGH THE REST OF THESE.IF YOU COULD PUT DOWN THE ACTUAL WORDS INSTEAD OF THE ACRONYM.
YOU KNOW WE MAY ALL KNOW WHAT PFC MEANS, BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T.
AND SO IF YOU COULD WRITE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION AND I KNOW ON A LATER SLIDE ON THIS PRESENTATION IN THE SUBHEADING OF THE TABLE, YOU ACTUALLY USE THE ACRONYM. AND I THINK THAT'S FINE.
BUT SOMEWHERE ON THIS DOCUMENT IT NEEDS TO ACTUALLY SAY WHAT THESE THINGS ARE, BECAUSE, I MEAN, I EVEN HAD A LOOK AT THE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS ONE MORE THAN ONCE AND GO, WAIT, WHAT IS THAT? SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE WRITE OUT WHAT THE ACTUAL WORD IS.
OKAY. THAT'S ALL THE ONES I HAVE FOR THIS MEMO.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. THANK YOU.
AND I KNOW I HAVE ASKED FOR THESE ACRONYMS TO BE LISTED AND SPELLED OUT BEFORE, TOO.
SO, IN JUNE OR THE NEXT TIME WE SEE THIS REPORT, WE NEED TO SEE IT SPELLED OUT.
SO I HOPE THAT MESSAGE IS RECEIVED ON I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON PFC PUBLIC FACILITIES CORP.
I SEE UNDER REVENUE. IT SHOWS A DEFICIT. IS THAT JUST CAN YOU EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT WHY THAT IS? IS IT JUST BECAUSE THIS IS THE ISOLATED SECOND QUARTER REPORT? IT IS. AND IF JACKIE SCHROEDER, IF YOU'RE ON WEBEX, IF YOU COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION, PLEASE.
I'M NOT SURE IF SHE'S IN THE PANELIST SECTION OR NOT.
I MEAN, WOULD IT BE THAT WE I MEAN, YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT IF YOU WANT.
YEAH, THAT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. SO, THIS WAS A PERFORMANCE REPORT TO DATE AS OF MARCH.
SO, WE CAN GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT AND SEE IF JACKIE COMES ON HERE IN A SECOND.
SO AND THEN BACKING UP TO HOUSING FINANCE CORP OR HFC.
WAIT A MINUTE. IT LOOKS LIKE OKAY; IT HAS NUMBER OF UNITS PROJECTS COMPLETED.
IT HAS 1075. SO, ARE YOU SAYING THAT 1075 CAME ONLINE IN Q2? THROUGH QUARTER TWO? SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN STARTED IN QUARTER ONE THROUGH QUARTER TWO, BUT THOSE ARE COMPLETED UNITS TO DATE.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THIS ACTUALLY IS A YEAR TO DATE.
SO IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND PAGE OF THE REPORT, YOU'LL SEE THE QUARTER BREAKDOWN.
SO THE COMPLETED UNITS THROUGH QUARTER ONE WAS 1075.
NO ADDITIONAL UNITS CAME ONLINE IN QUARTER TWO.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. AMEN. OKAY I SEE, SO WE'VE GOT IT JUST ACROSS THE HALL.
OKAY YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO, YOU DO HAVE YEAR TO DATE. YOU DO HAVE YEAR TO DATE. I DO LOVE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, BUT SOMETIMES TO PROCESS ALL OF THAT. OKAY. AND JACKIE DID COME ONLINE.
SO, JACKIE, THE QUESTION WAS ON PFC RELATED TO THE REVENUE DEFICIT.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE REVENUE DEFICIT? AND ARE WE ON TRACK TO CATCH UP IN THE PFC REVENUE? WE DON'T SEE HER. OKAY. YEAH, I'M NOT SEEING I SEE HER BLANK SCREEN, BUT I DON'T SEE A VIDEO OR OFF MUTE YET, SO. WELL AND I'M HAPPY TO GET AN EMAIL ABOUT THAT.
OR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO SEND SOMETHING, YOU KNOW.
IS THIS WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE? IS THIS HIGHER OR LOWER? OKAY. YEAH. WE MIGHT HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT.
CHAIR, I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. WHEN AFTER YOU GO.
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COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.AND THANKS FOR CONTINUING TO BRING THIS UPDATE.
THOR OR IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST THOR. IS ANYBODY IN THE CITY TRACKING? JUST OVERALL TRACKING OF MARKET RATE UNITS? IS THERE A DEPARTMENT THAT DOES THAT IN THE CITY? IN TERMS OF NEW, NEW HOUSING COMING ONLINE? THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT WOULD BE THROUGH OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
THEY CAN PULL REPORTS ON NUMBER OF PERMITS COMPLETED AND CLOSED.
HELP US UNDERSTAND HOUSING ACTIVITY. AND THEY REGULARLY WORK WITH YOU TO PASS ALONG THAT DATA.
YEAH. WE TYPICALLY DON'T REQUEST MARKET RATE DATA ALL THE TIME.
WE LOOKED AT OUR PORTFOLIO OF INVESTMENT, BUT WE CAN REQUEST THAT.
YEAH. I MEAN THIS THIS LAST SUNDAY IN DALLAS MORNING NEWS OPINION SECTION COLUMN, CLARK HAD PROVIDED SOME RESEARCH ABOUT HOW THE CREATION OF MORE MARKET RATE UNITS CERTAINLY LOWERS RENTS AND EVEN HOME PRICES.
AND SO THEREFORE WE SHOULD BE, I THINK, ENCOURAGING IT PERSONALLY, BUT AT A MINIMUM, TRACKING THAT AND ANALYZING THAT ALONG WITH OUR HOUSING PRODUCTION. AND I EVEN THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IT IN YOUR, IN YOUR REPORT IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO, TO BRING THAT DATA TOGETHER. I KNOW IT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING.
THE OTHER THING I NOTICED IS THAT, AND THIS IS NO SURPRISE, IS THAT THE HFC AND THE PFC CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE VAST MAJORITY OF NEW UNITS. YOU KNOW, OUR OTHER PROGRAMS ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT IT'S JUST PROVIDING A MINIMAL LEVEL OF PRODUCTION COMPARED TO THE HFC AND PFC.
AND THOSE I MEAN, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THESE OTHER PROGRAMS ARE REALLY TIED TO THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN OF FEDERAL FUNDING? THEY ARE TIED TO THAT. SO OUR DEVELOPMENT NOFA PUTS OUT THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, AND OUR MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS IS JUST A BONUS PROGRAM FOR DEVELOPERS TO SEEK THOSE BONUSES IN EXCHANGE FOR AFFORDABILITY OR FEE IN LIEU.
HOW ARE IS STAFF SORT OF ADJUSTING TO LIKE THE NEW ADMINISTRATION'S ACTIONS REGARDING THE FEDERAL PLAN FUNDING FOR HUD AND THESE PROGRAMS ARE WE ARE WE JUST SORT OF JUST KIND OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING? LIKE, IS THERE ANY CONCERN FROM YOUR END ON THIS? GOOD MORNING, CYNTHIA, ALEX AND DIRECTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
GOOD MORNING. SO OUR BUDGET OFFICE, OFFICE OF BUDGET, WHO MANAGES THE ENTIRE COMP PLAN, IS WATCHING THAT VERY CLOSELY AND DETERMINING FOR ALL OF US IN THE CITY HOW CDBG AND HOME ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED.
HOPWA, ESG, ALL THOSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE UNDER THAT, AS WELL AS A LOT OF OTHER FEDERAL GRANTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT. SO OUR BUDGET OFFICE IS MANAGING THAT THOSE PROJECTIONS AND THOSE REVIEWS AS WE GO ALONG FOR THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND WHAT AFFECTS US. WE ARE WATCHING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WATCHING A CUT OFF TIME, AND TO SEE WHAT OTHER PROGRAMS MAY COME ONLINE FOR FEDERAL USES.
SO IT MAY BE THAT AND AGAIN, VERY MUCH SPECULATION LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
AND HOME COULD BE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING BACK SAME PROGRAMS. COULD BE THEY'RE CUTTING IT OFF ALTOGETHER. WE JUST DON'T KNOW ANYTHING AT THIS POINT OTHER THAN WE'VE SEEN THE SKINNY BUDGET THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS PUT OUT THAT CUTS OUT CDBG AND HOME ALTOGETHER. AND WE HAVE FUNDING ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO NEXT YEAR.
I APPRECIATE THAT, CYNTHIA. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TRACKING IT.
WE BROUGHT THIS UP IN THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO REALLY START LOOKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND ENGAGING WITH, LIKE, OUR BANK, CRA LEADERS, PHILANTHROPY, SOME OF OUR FAITH BASED GROUPS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF FOLLOW A LITTLE BIT IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF WHAT THE HOMELESSNESS WORLD HAS DONE TO LEVERAGE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING CONSTRUCTION OUTSIDE OF JUST OUR TRADITIONAL MODEL. AND THEN THE DFC, AFC HAS STAFF THOUGHT ANY MORE ABOUT THAT, OR IS THERE ANYBODY PUSHING FOR THAT IN THE CITY? SO, WE TALK TO YOU KNOW, AS MANY AS MANY PARTNERS AS WE CAN ABOUT ADVOCACY AS WELL AS OTHER TYPES OF PRODUCTS FOR
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FINANCING. BUT AGAIN, MANY OF OUR PRODUCTS THAT ARE USED FOR FINANCING ON OUR TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT ALSO RELY ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S SUBSIDIES FOR THE TYPES OF FHA AND FREDDIE MAC PRODUCTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.SO THEY TOO ARE WATCHING TO SEE WHAT PRODUCTS THEY CAN PUT OUT AND WHAT OTHER INCENTIVES CAN COME.
WELL, BOTH, I LIKE THAT, AND I MENTIONED THE FAITH BASED GROUPS SPECIFICALLY ONE FOR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, BUT TWO, NOW THAT WE HAVE PASSED PARKING REFORM.
SO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T JUST ON YOU.
IT'S BUT IT'S ALSO ON I THINK OUR, OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS ON HOW WE MIGHT GET CREATIVE WITH, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZING THEM. MAYBE, MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JUST MONEY, BUT COULD BE LIKE EXPEDITED PERMITTING PROCESSES.
WHAT HAVE YOU TO START ACTIVATING SOME OF THESE UNDERUTILIZED PARKING LOTS? JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THOR, DID. ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR. I AM, JACKIE.
DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER? I. YES. JACKIE SCHROEDER INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR OF KPFK.
THE QUESTION WAS REGARDING. THERE'S A NEGATIVE AMOUNT SHOWING FOR REVENUE WITH THE PFC, I BELIEVE.
WHOSE QUESTION WAS THAT? WAS THAT MENDELSOHN? THAT WAS ME. OKAY, THAT WAS ME. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
YES. SO THAT IS IN REGARD TO PARK AT NORTH POINT AT 9999 TECHNOLOGY.
WE HAVE BEEN PAYING FOR SECURITY FOR THE PROPERTY.
WE WILL BE REIMBURSED AT THE CLOSING OF THE DEAL, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
PROBABLY A COUPLE MONTHS AWAY, I THINK. SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
CORRECT. AND WILL BE REIMBURSED FOR THE SECURITY.
CORRECT. YOU SAID. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. SEEING NONE, WE WILL GO TO ITEM D.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS, DARWIN WADE, ASSISTANT HOUSING DIRECTOR HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ON THE 1950 FORT WORTH AVENUE PROJECT. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE CHART, THE LATEST INFORMATION THAT WE TOLD YOU ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING WAS THE ISSUE AROUND THE BUDGET SHORTFALL WITH DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY. SO THAT HAS AFFECTED THE VOUCHER CONTRACT FOR THE PROJECT.
THERE ARE STILL ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR PARTNERS HOUSING FORWARD TO LOOK AT ANY ALTERNATIVES OR EXEMPTIONS FOR VOUCHER SUBSIDIES. WE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON THE RESULTS OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH HUD HEADQUARTERS AT THIS TIME.
SO THE VITAL THE VOUCHER SITUATION IS CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT.
SO WE ARE KIND OF IN A HOLDING PATTERN RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE CAN GET CONCRETE INFORMATION FROM DHA AND HOUSING FORWARD, ALONG WITH OUR HUD PARTNERS IN DC. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.
WE'LL START VIRTUALLY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY CHAIR MENDELSOHN.
YEAH. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE OPERATOR CAN'T FUNCTION WITHOUT THE VOUCHERS? I AM SAYING THAT THAT IS CORRECT. WITHOUT THE VOUCHER CONTRACT, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE IN JEOPARDY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE ACTUALLY ASKED THIS ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE BRANIFF LOFT PROJECT.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S NO VOUCHERS AVAILABLE? BUT THERE ARE VOUCHERS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR THE STREET TO HOME PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE SO. I WOULD HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT.
UNLESS CHRISTINE HAS SOME STAFF MEMBERS BACK THERE.
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ARE THEY ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? CHRISTINE IS COMING. SHE'S COMING TO THE MICROPHONE NOW.GOOD MORNING, CHAIR. VICE CHAIR CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS DIRECTOR.
YOU ARE CORRECT, VICE CHAIR. THERE ARE VOUCHERS FROM DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE ALREADY OBLIGATED TO THE STREET TO HOME PROJECT, BUT THERE ARE NOT UNOBLIGATED VOUCHERS FROM STREET TO HOME.
YOU'RE NO LONGER OFFERING THEM A STREET TO HOME VOUCHER.
THEY ARE BEING OFFERED A VOUCHER THAT IS PART OF THE CAPITAL STACK OF STREET TO HOME.
BUT ALL OF THOSE VOUCHERS ARE PROJECTED FOR USE, SO IT'S NOT LIKE YOU COULD.
WELL, LET'S SAY IT A DIFFERENT WAY. IF THE IF THE MIRAMAR WERE DONE RIGHT NOW, THEN IT IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD TAKE SOMEONE WITH A VOUCHER AND PUT THEM THERE.
SO, WAITING FOR THE PROJECT TO WRAP UP WOULD NOT SERVE THOSE VOUCHERS WELL.
INSTEAD, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT VOUCHERS WOULD COME ONLINE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT SO THAT BY THE TIME IT'S READY TO MOVE INTO, THE VOUCHERS ARE ABLE TO BE LINKED TO THAT. I'D ALSO HAVE TO WE'D HAVE TO CONSULT THE GROUP THAT IS WORKING WITH US WHO WOULD RUN THE PROPERTY. BUT FROM WHAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED BECAUSE THAT MODEL HAS TAKEN SO LONG IN THE PAST, THEY WOULD REALLY PREFER THAT THERE BE A SET OF PROPERTY BASED VOUCHERS TIED TO THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.
WELL, I'M SURE THEY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE PROPERTY BASED VOUCHERS, BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF PROPERTY BASED VOUCHERS, WOULD THEY NOT ACCEPT PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING WITH THEIR OWN VOUCHER? I THINK THEY WOULD. OKAY. SO WHO DETERMINED THAT THE VOUCHER SHOULD GO TO STREET TO HOME AS OPPOSED TO THE WAY WE USED TO DO IT WITH THE AGENCIES GIVING OUT VOUCHERS TO HOMELESS WHO HAD FOLLOWED THE RULES, GOTTEN A JOB AND WERE READY FOR THAT NEXT STEP. WHO DETERMINED THAT THOSE VOUCHERS SHOULD BE USED IN THIS STREET TO HOME PROGRAM, AS OPPOSED TO THE NONPROFIT METHOD, SO THAT THAT IS THE NONPROFIT METHOD.
SO WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH STREET TO HOME IS. MAY I PAUSE? HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN DOING STREET TO HOME? WELL, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS IS THE LATEST ITERATION, BUT WE'VE BEEN USING VOUCHERS THIS WAY SINCE 2021 PER HUD RULES AND BEST PRACTICES.
IS THAT A HOUSING FORWARD DECISION? IS THAT A CITY COUNCIL DECISION.
IS THAT AN ADMINISTRATION DECISION WHO DECIDED THAT? IT IS A JOINT DECISION OF THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, WHICH INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE FACTORS INCLUDES THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY, WHO HAS THE VOUCHERS? DALLAS COUNTY, CITY OF DALLAS THROUGH THE COC BOARD.
OKAY. WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO MAKE THIS BIG STATEMENT.
THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE HAVE SAT ON THIS MIRAMAR PROPERTY SINCE DECEMBER 2020 AND INVESTED ALL THESE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND IT'S GOING TO SIT EMPTY BECAUSE THERE'S NO VOUCHERS.
AND I KNOW THAT I WILL BE INVOLVED WITH BRINGING FORWARD SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION THAT SAYS THOSE VOUCHERS NEED TO GO TO PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE AT THE MIRAMAR WHEN IT'S READY TO OPEN. SO I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION IS, IS THERE A CHANGE FOR CATHOLIC CHARITIES IN COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT WITHOUT HAVING CERTAINTY OF THEIR VOUCHERS? COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND MY CONVERSATIONS WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES SAINT JUDE, INC.
THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS ON THE TABLE AS IT RELATES TO THE VOUCHER PIECE.
IF THERE ARE NO PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS, IF THERE IS A WAY WHEREBY, THEY COULD OBTAIN TENANT BASED VOUCHERS THROUGH DHA AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE WHEN THEY ARE OUT OF BUDGET SHORTFALL WHETHER THAT'S 50% OF THE UNITS WHETHER IT'S 60 UNITS THERE'S AN
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APPETITE TO LOOK AT TENANT BASED VOUCHERS SHOULD THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.AND SO WE'RE BASICALLY WAITING FOR HUD CONFIRMATION ON THAT CONVERSATION.
AND SO ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS, THEN WE'LL KNOW WHICH PATH WE'LL BE TAKING.
WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TENANT BASED VOUCHERS THROUGH DHA AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, OR IF THE PROJECT IS STALLED, BASICALLY. SO MORE INFORMATION TO BE DETERMINED.
THAT IS CORRECT. WE WERE ACTUALLY SO CLOSE. WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, WHICH INCLUDED THE HUD SUBSIDY LAYERING, WHICH ALSO INCLUDED THE VOUCHER SUBSIDY PIECE.
WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT WHEN DHA WAS INFORMED ABOUT THE BUDGET SHORTFALL.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF CREATED THIS WHOLE RIPPLE EFFECT IN THE PROCESS.
BUT WE WERE ALMOST THERE FOR THIS PROJECT. OKAY.
IS IT STILL ON TARGET TO OPEN ON THE SAME TIMELINE OR IS THIS DELAYED.
WE ALSO HAVE THE FEDERAL VOUCHER SUBSIDY. SO, ANY DELAY IN THE VOUCHER CONTRACT WILL ALSO DELAY THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, WHICH ULTIMATELY DELAYS WHEN FUNDING CAN BE USED FOR THE PROJECT.
AND I MEAN, I THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD DIRECT THE COC TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT AND IF NOT, PULL THE MONEY FROM OTHER DOLLARS THAT WE WERE PROVIDING TO KIOSK OPERATORS.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T HAVE INVEST THAT OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS IN THIS FACILITY.
I MEAN, IT'S 2025, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. LIKE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER THIS CAN GO ON.
THIS IS INSANE. SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A HUGE COMMITMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE TENANTS WHO CAN GET THE VOUCHERS INTO THIS PROPERTY AND ASK CATHOLIC CHARITY SAINT JUDE TO NOT SLOW DOWN, TO ACTUALLY GO AS FAST AS THEY CAN TO OPEN THIS PROPERTY, GET PEOPLE LITERALLY OFF THE STREET.
EVERYBODY IS COMMITTED TO THAT. DARWIN, I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT STATEMENT, BUT BUT THE FACT THAT IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO DELAY THIS EVEN ONE DAY TELLS ME WE'RE NOT DOING EVERYTHING, BECAUSE DOING EVERYTHING WOULD MEAN PULLING THE VOUCHERS FROM OTHER PROGRAMS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS FILLED. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS. THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR.
BUT UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THIS IMPACT ON LOSING THESE WOULD, WOULD AFFECT THE PROJECT.
BUT YEAH, IF WE NEED TO RETOOL SOME THINGS TO MAKE IT, TO GET IT ONLINE AFTER THE INVESTMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE AND THE TIME THAT IT'S LANGUISHED, I REALLY THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. AND I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT INVESTMENT AS WELL, AND THAT DALLAS IS A CRITICAL PART IN OUR BOND INVESTMENTS AND OTHER DOLLARS THAT ARE HELPING STAND PEOPLE UP.
AND SO YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE HEARD ON THAT.
I'M GLAD, MR. WADE, YOU SAID IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE BEING EXPLORED, BUT I HOPE NEXT MONTH, WHEN WE CONVENE, WE ARE ABLE TO DISCUSS THOSE MORE AND UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THOSE ARE, AND HOPEFULLY SOMETHING WILL HAVE MOVED FORWARD TO HELP RESOLVE THIS.
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THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLISON. I DON'T I'M TRYING TO JOG MY MEMORY AS WELL.I'M TRYING TO RECALL HOW OR THE DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING SOME OF THOSE ITEMS ROLL OFF SO CHRISTINE OR SOMEONE CAN TELL US WHY SOME OF THEM ARE NO LONGER ON HERE.
YES. THANK YOU. WE JUST PULLED IT OFF TO DUST IT UP.
AND ONE OF THE HEAT MAPS THAT WE HAD HOPED TO HAVE IN MORE DETAIL.
AND IF WE NEED TO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE REAL ESTATE DISCUSSIONS AND WHAT MAY BE ON THE TABLE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE SEE SOME LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEING WORKED ON OR WHATEVER, BUT UNLESS WE HAVE IT BEFORE THE PUBLIC AND BEFORE THIS BODY EACH MONTH, I THINK IT'S EASY TO LET THINGS NOT BE TENDED TO OR OR PERHAPS THEY'RE BEING WORKED ON, BUT WE'RE NOT LEVERAGING THAT WITH MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE AND WITH THE PUBLIC SO THAT WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I MEAN, WE KNOW WE'VE GOT A BIG ISSUE HERE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE HOUSING FORWARD REPORT SAYS.
AND THEY NEED TO BE REPORTED IN THIS COMMITTEE BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE TELLING THE PUBLIC, GUESS WHAT? YOU GET TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT PROJECT LIES AND WHERE YOUR DOLLARS THAT WERE DEDICATED FOR ONE PURPOSE HAVE NOW GONE TO LIVE.
SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT IN JUNE.
COUNCILMEMBER WEST, DID WE NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU? YEAH. NO, I HAVEN'T GONE YET. THANK YOU. SO I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION, CERTAINLY ON MY PART NOW ON LIKE, HOW THE VOUCHERS CAN BE USED FOR 1950 FOURTH AVENUE.
MY RESIDENTS ARE TIRED OF HEARING ME TALK ABOUT IT AND NOT SEE ANYTHING HAPPENING IN THERE.
SO THIS IS A MEETING TO HAVE THIS MEETING EVERY MONTH AND TO KEEP GOING OVER THIS.
I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING IT, CHAIR, BECAUSE IT'S KEEPING THE SPOTLIGHT ON IT.
BUT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE ALL HANDS AT THE TABLE AND WHETHER IT'S IN CLOSED SESSION OR NOT, LIKE A PLAN FORWARD. SO I'M ASKING STAFF TO, WHEN THIS IS SET AGAIN TO BRING SARAH, LET, I REALLY WANT TO LIKE HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION WITH EVERYBODY ABOUT IT AND TO GET A PLAN FORWARD.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. YES. SHE WILL ALSO BE HERE FOR THE FOR THE QUARTERLY UPDATE.
SO WE WILL MAKE SURE SHE'S INFORMED. WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THAT WRAPS UP ITEM D.
MOVE ON TO ITEM E WITH OUR CFO. THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING, JACK IRELAND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
WE PLACED A MEMO ON TODAY'S COMMITTEE AGENDA AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY MANAGER.
WE HAVE BEEN ALIGNING DEPARTMENTS TO THE VARIOUS COMMITTEES.
WHAT WE PROVIDED WAS BASICALLY PAGES OUT OF OUR CURRENT YEAR BUDGET DOCUMENT, BECAUSE WITHIN OUR CURRENT YEAR BUDGET DOCUMENT, WE ALSO HAD OUR FISCAL YEAR 26 PLANNED BUDGET.
AND THE PLANNED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 IS NOT WHAT WILL BE RECOMMENDED TO YOU IN AUGUST, BUT IT IS OUR STARTING POINT. IT IS THE POINT THAT WE ARE STARTING IN OUR WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS TO COME UP WITH A BALANCED BUDGET TO PRESENT TO YOU IN AUGUST. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT PROCESS OR TIMELINE, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
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IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, CHRISTINA IS STILL HERE, OR HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. CYNTHIA IS STILL HERE.THANK YOU. JUST RAISE YOUR HAND IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD IF Y'ALL HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS.
BUT AS I LOOK AT OHS AND I KNOW WE'RE GETTING A BRIEFING NEXT MONTH TO CAPTURE AND OUTLINE AND DETAIL THE CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN MADE ON ALIGNMENT AROUND THAT. BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT REALLY JUMPED OUT AT ME ON THIS FIRST PART.
AND AS THE BUDGET IS BEING CREATED FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, I LOOK AT LANGUAGE LIKE CONTINUALLY IMPROVE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE TARGET POPULATION, READYING THEM FOR AND MOVING THEM OUT OF HOMELESSNESS AND INTO HOUSING.
AND SO, I THINK THAT READYING FOR THAT TEMPORARY HOUSING OPTION THAT ZONE THAT CAN HELP SOMEONE, HOPEFULLY RE-ACCLIMATE TO LIVING IN A HOME WITH A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD AND ALL OF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER OR THAT WE DO IN THIS BUDGET. ANOTHER ASPECT IS ON PROVIDES EDUCATION, ON SUSTAINABLE GIVING THROUGH THE GIVE RESPONSIBLY CAMPAIGN. AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS DISRUPT STREET GIVING.
AND I'M NOT SEEING WHERE THE DISRUPT STREET GIVING IS.
AND MAYBE THAT'S GOING TO LIVE IN A DIFFERENT ZONE WITH THE REALIGNMENT.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GIVE ELSEWHERE AS A RESIDUAL EFFECT OF THAT, THAT'S GREAT.
WE'VE GOT NONPROFITS WHO ARE UNDERGOING THEIR OWN CAMPAIGNS, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME, ENERGY AND MONEY WE NEED TO DIRECT TOWARD THAT WHEN THE REAL OBJECTIVE IS TO DISRUPT THE STREET GIVING, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS ON OUR STREET CORNERS AND CONTRIBUTES TO LITTER AND OTHER ISSUES THAT WE ARE ALSO HAVING TO SPEND MONEY ON.
AND I WILL SAY, JUST FOR THIS BODY, BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH MASSIVE CHANGE HAPPENING OVER THE SUMMER, WE WILL BE TAKING THE SUMMER TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW EVERYTHING SETTLES DOWN AND THEN INTEND TO BRING OUR FOUR TRACK STRATEGY BACK TO THE CHC IN THIS BODY IN THE FALL, BECAUSE IT WILL NEED SOME MASSIVE UPDATES, OBVIOUSLY, WITH TWO OF THE TRACKS NO LONGER BEING HOUSED IN OHS.
AND I THINK THERE'S ALSO ROOM THERE TO LOOK AT HOW THE LANGUAGE COULD BE POTENTIALLY CRAFTED TO BE MORE ACTIONABLE AND REFLECTIVE OF OUR NEW NORMAL, WHICH IS CERTAINLY NOT WHAT IT WAS EVEN IN 2022.
COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. THAT'S ALL. ANY OTHERS ON THE VIRTUAL SIDE, COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON.
THANK YOU. SO FIRST THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUTSOURCING THE HIP PROGRAM, BUT YET I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF STAFF AND HOUSING.
COUNCILWOMAN. YES. THIS BUDGET, AS JACK MENTIONED, IS WHAT IS EXISTING IN THE BUDGET BOOK.
NOW. OUR BUDGET WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT WHEN YOU SEE IT OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
GREAT. THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR HOUSING THAT ARE ON PAGE EIGHT.
THOSE ARE NOT THE ITEMS THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO ME.
YES, MA'AM. THESE TWO HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST COMING OUT OF THE EXISTING BOOK.
WE WORKED ON NEW MEASURES OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, AND WE WILL BE BRINGING YOU NEW ONES, BUT PLEASE GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. NO. THAT'S GREAT.
I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW THE MOST BASIC OF INFORMATION.
HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS DID YOU CREATE? WHAT KIND OF AFFORDABILITY DID YOU CREATE?
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AND THE REST OF THESE ARE NOT MEANINGFUL, I THINK, TO MOST PEOPLE.MOVING ON TO HOMELESS SOLUTIONS. THANK YOU. CYNTHIA.
I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THE INCREASE FOR THIS.
IT LOOKS TO BE THE ONE THAT JUMPS OUT TO ME THE MOST IS A BIG INCREASE FOR HOUSING FORWARD FOR THEIR HMIS SYSTEM. $130,000 INCREASE, AND I STILL AM.
I'M. I'M WAITING FOR AN OPINION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT WHETHER THAT IS OPEN RECORDS ELIGIBLE, IF IT'S TOMA AND IF IT'S NOT, I SAY NO, WE NEED THAT DATA.
WE NEED TO KNOW EVERY MONTH HOW MANY CLIENTS ARE ACTIVE IN THE SYSTEM.
WE SHOULD BE GETTING A REPORT FROM THEM EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
WE'RE PAYING FOR PART OF THE SYSTEM, AND I STILL DON'T SEE THAT DATA.
THAT SHOULD BE EVERY SINGLE MONTH. IT SHOULD BE YEAR TO DATE.
IT SHOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
BECAUSE, AS COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS SAID, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HOUSING FORWARD SAYS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, I THINK WE ALL SEE SOMETHING VERY, VERY DIFFERENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
BRAND NEW. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING BRIEFING WHEN THEY COME.
AND AGAIN, I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR THIS INFORMATION.
WE DON'T HAVE IT. THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, THESE ARE NOT THE MEASURES THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO ME.
AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL HAVE MORE MEANINGFUL MEASURES IN THE NEXT BUDGET.
WHO'S AND WHO'S WHAT BUDGET LIES THE SIGNS FOR THE GIVE RESPONSIBLY CAMPAIGN? THERE IS NO BUDGET LINE SPECIFICALLY FOR SIGNAGE.
OKAY, SO WHO'S COVERING THAT CURRENTLY COVERED IT WHEN WE HAD AVAILABLE FUNDING.
OKAY. SO, WE'LL CONNECT OFFLINE ON THAT ONE. OKAY.
SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT, WE'LL GO TO ITEM F.
GOT IT. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE WITH UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS, BUT I DO HAVE SOMETHING WHEN YOU GET TO FORECAST ANYONE ON F.
G. H. GO AHEAD. COUNCIL MEMBER CHAIR WEST.
THANK YOU. SO ON THIS MEMO THE I SAW THAT THE PROJECT ATTRIBUTES.
I'M TRYING TO PULL UP MY NOTES HERE. THEY ONLY SCORED TWO POINTS, AND I JUST WONDERED WHY.
AND, LIKE, WHAT'S LOOKED INTO THAT? WHAT IS FACTORS INTO THE PROJECT ATTRIBUTES? DARWIN IS LOOKING THAT UP FOR YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
THANKS. I'M SORRY FOR THE. I TRIED TO TEXT YOU, CYNTHIA, BUT THAT QUESTION'S SO YOU'D BE PREPARED.
BUT IT JUST. I JUST SENT IT, SO THANK YOU.
BASICALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT INCOME TARGETING.
WE'RE LOOKING AT UNIT SIZE THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE WERE SOME DISCREPANCIES IN THE, IN THE NOFA APPLICATION, WHICH REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF POINTS AWARDED TO THE PROJECT TO TWO, WHICH IS A LITTLE LESS THAN 21.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF LOST SOME POINTS THERE FOR THE PROJECT.
BUT THERE WERE OTHER CATEGORIES THAT SCORED EXCEPTIONALLY WELL, SUCH AS THE EQUITY AND CITY INITIATIVES, READINESS AND DEVELOPER EXPERIENCE. AND OF COURSE, SOME BONUS POINTS WERE ADDED TO THE PROJECT.
BUT ULTIMATELY, WE FELT THAT THIS PROJECT WAS A GREAT PROJECT.
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IT CHECKED A LOT OF BOXES FOR THE CITY. AS YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF THE 1000 UNIT CHALLENGE THAT YOU WERE PART OF BACK IN 2020.AND IT'S ALSO LOCATED IN AN EQUITY STRATEGY TARGETED AREA.
IT MEETS ALL OF OUR COUNCIL PRIORITIES AS IT RELATES TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERSHIP OPTIONS.
SO WE'RE VERY PROUD TO PRESENT THIS ITEM TO YOU AND WE ENCOURAGE SUPPORT FOR THE PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S THANK YOU. GOOD ANSWER. RESPONSE.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION ON THE PROJECT ATTRIBUTES NOT SO MUCH FOR THIS DEAL, BUT FOR FUTURE ONES LIKE WHAT ARE. HOW COULD SOMEONE GET A BETTER SCORE UNDER PROJECT ATTRIBUTES? LIKE WHAT ARE THINGS YOU LOOK FOR THERE? THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR, WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU KNOW, JUST PROXIMITY TO CERTAIN THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
LIKE. LIKE WHAT EXACTLY? SO. SO THIS IS A CITY OWNED SITE, SO NEARBY AMENITIES CERTAINLY HELPS.
OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S DART NEARBY, BUT OTHER AMENITIES THAT WE'RE LACKING.
SO THOSE THINGS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ADD POINTS FOR THAT.
SO THOSE THINGS ARE SOMETHING THAT WE'LL DEFINITELY BE LOOKING AT TO ADJUST OUR CRITERIA FOR SITES THAT MAY BE CITY OWNED BUT MAY NOT BE IN PROXIMITY TO AMENITIES LIKE OTHER PROJECTS ARE. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON IN THE CRITERIA.
AND I WILL ALSO SAY THIS WHEN WE MEET WITH OUR DEVELOPERS ON OUR MONTHLY DEVELOPER WORKSHOP.
WE DO GO OVER THE CRITERIA, SO EVERYONE'S AWARE OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND HOW WE SCORE THE PROJECTS, AND WE ALSO ASK FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE DEVELOPER COMMUNITY.
ALL RIGHT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY GET IT WHICH IS IF THEY UNDERSTAND IT AND IT'S TRANSPARENT TO THEM, THAT'S FINE. TO ME, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE GRAY THAN I WOULD FIND IDEAL.
BUT THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
CHAIR WEST. MOVING ON TO ITEM. I WILL HAVE A SHORT JUNE MEETING.
I WILL ASK YOU ALL TO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER ITEM THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THE JUNE ITEM, PLEASE GET WITH ME OFFLINE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE.
JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING NONE. OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS.
THANK YOU. AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A RESPONSE BACK FROM MR. ROBY, BUT I KNOW WE'RE ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THE FORECAST IN JUNE IS TO LOOK AT THE AUSTIN STREET SHELTER CONTRACT.
AND I'D LOVE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE FUTURE PLANS OF AUSTIN STREET CENTER AND HOW THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP A PARTNER THAT'S SEEN RESULTS. AND MAYBE WE OPEN THIS UP TO OTHERS AS WELL.
BECAUSE WE NEED HELP WITH OUR HOMELESSNESS ISSUE.
WE NEED MORE OPTIONS THAN JUST THE HOUSING FIRST PATHWAY.
WE NEED MULTIPLE PATHWAYS TO ADDRESS THIS AND GET PEOPLE OFF OF THE STREETS.
AND SO, AND WE DO HAVE SOME PARTNERSHIPS THAT THEY MAY NOT BE PERFECT, BUT THEY'RE WORKING, AND THEY'RE DEDICATED, AND THEY'VE HAD A GOOD TRACK RECORD WITH SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND GETTING RESULTS.
ABSOLUTELY. READING YOUR AROUND THE SAME WAVELENGTH THERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. SO, SURROUNDING THE GIVE RESPONSIBILITY RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM I'D LIKE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO SEE IF THIS IS EVEN MAKING A DIFFERENCE.
WE HAVE ALL THE SIGNS UP ALL ALONG THE TOLLWAY.
WE'VE HAD NO DIFFERENCE. WE'VE HAD NO IMPACT.
I DON'T THINK A SIGN IS ACTUALLY CHANGING BEHAVIOR.
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WE'RE KEEPING THEM HOMELESS. WE ARE KEEPING THEM ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING A LOT OF MONEY.AND SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT THE PROGRAM IS AND ANY KIND OF DATA THAT SHOWS IF IT'S WORKING, IF IT'S NOT WORKING, THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE.
THERE WAS A PROGRAM PRIOR TO THIS ONE AND IT ALSO DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
SO, I WOULD LIKE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE HITTING IT RIGHT.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT DATA COMING OUT OF MISS WHAT'S AVAILABLE AND WHAT WE CAN SEE AS A REPORT EVERY SINGLE MONTH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE TIME IS NOW 10:48,
AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.