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[Ad Hoc City Council Canvassing Committee on May 28, 2025.]
SORRY, EIGHTH, MAY 28TH.THIS IS A COMMITTEE ON, UH, CANVASSING.
SO WE HAVE, UM, THE CHARGE TO REVIEW AND EXAMINE THE RESULTS OF THE RECOUNT FOR PLACE SIX THAT OCCURRED ON THE MAY 3RD ELECTION.
SO, UH, BILLY RAY, WILL YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THOSE RESULTS? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
AND I KNOW WE DO GIVE AN OVERVIEW, BUT TODAY WE HAVE THE ONE AND ONLY, UH, HE GARCIA FROM THE S ADMINISTRATOR FROM DALLAS COUNTY ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT.
AND HE'S ACTUALLY GONNA GO OVER JUST A MANUAL RECOUNT RESULTS.
UM, AND I, HE IS THE BEST PERSON.
IT WAS, IT'S HIS OFFICE THAT WAS ACTUALLY TASKED WITH STAFFING AND THE, THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURES AND THE OVERALL CONDUCT OF THE MANUAL RECOUNT.
WOULD YOU ACTUALLY WALK US THROUGH HOW IT HAPPENED? I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING TO HAVE HEARD IT FROM BILLY RAY, BUT I THINK MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS.
THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
UM, SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE FILES FOR RECOUNT AND, YOU KNOW, THE CITY APPROVES A RECOUNT.
UH, WE PUT TOGETHER TWO THINGS, RIGHT? THE MATERIALS FOR THE RECOUNT RECOUNTS ARE DONE BASED ON PAPER.
SO THE RESULT WE GET ON ELECTION NIGHT IS AN ELECTRONIC COUNT OF ALL MATERIALS SCANNING THOSE, WHETHER HIGH C SCANNERS, PRECINCT, WHATEVER.
AND THEN WE ALSO PUT TOGETHER TEAMS OF PEOPLE, RIGHT? THEY HAVE TO REGISTER VOTERS.
THERE'S A SERIES OF QUALIFICATIONS THEY HAVE TO LEAVE WITHIN THE DISTRICT, PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO COUNT THOSE BALLOT.
UM, THE PROCESS ITSELF IS SIMPLE.
YOU GIVE EACH CHANGE, THERE'S A GROUPS OF THREE.
ONE PERSON WILL PULL BALLOT CALL AN NAME THAT THEY SEE ON A BALLOT.
TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE TELLING.
SO AS, AS THIS PERSON CALLS IN IN AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, VOTE FOR HIRE, THESE DO MAKING HASH MARKS IN TWO DIFFERENT SHEETS, RIGHT? AND THEY GO THROUGH ABOUT A BALLOT TO ALL THE BOX.
AND THEN AT THE END YOU CHECK, MAKE SURE THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME NUMBERS.
IF THEY DON'T MATCH THE TWO SEPARATE TALLIES, THEN THEY HAVE TO DO A BOX AGAIN.
ONCE THEY DO THAT, THEY SEAL EVERYTHING PACKED, GRAB THE NEXT BOX AND GO.
AND SO AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, WHAT WE HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, UH, A TON OF PAPER TALLIES WITH ALL THE HASH MARKS DONE FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE ACCOUNTS.
AND THEN PUT THEM IN A SPREADSHEET AND ADD TOGETHER AND SAY, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT CAME OUT.
AND THEN SOMEBODY'S VERIFYING THAT SPREADSHEET THAT IF THE FIRST BOX HAD A HUNDRED VOTES FOR YOU AND A HUNDRED VOTES FOR ME, THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS ACTUALLY PUT IN THE SPREADSHEET AS WELL.
FROM, FROM THE PAPER TO THE SPREADSHEET.
THERE'S, I WAS DOING IT WITH ANOTHER PERSON THAT, THAT WAS MY JOB TO TYPE THOSE NUMBERS.
AND THEN THERE WAS A SECOND THING THAT WENT BACK AND NUMBERS, RIGHT? UM, AND SO PART OF THE, PART OF THE PROCESS, WHEN WE'RE DONE DOING ALL THAT INPUT, RIGHT, WE GO BACK AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WHAT DID WE GET IN THE END? AND WE COMPARE THOSE NUMBERS TO THE ORIGINAL COUNT BY PRECINCT, LOCATION BY LOCATION, RIGHT? AND WE FIND THINGS LIKE, HEY, WE'RE OFF BY THREE HERE.
'CAUSE THAT'S A FIVE, NOT A TWO.
OH, SORRY, BY THAT TYPING, RIGHT? SO WE GO AND WE, WE PROOF WHAT WE ENTER AND THEN WE COMPARE AGAINST WHAT WAS REPORTED ON THE ELECTION.
AND SO, UM, THAT LEADS US TO A POINT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WHICH IS YOU HAVE PART REVIEW, UH, THE RESULT OF THE RECOUNT PROOF CORRECTED, YOU KNOW, CORRECTED ALL THE ERRORS ON THE INPUT ON THE SHEET, WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE MANUALLY WERE DOING THERE.
AND THE FINAL NUMBERS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS REPORTED ORIGINALLY FOR, UH, JUDGE NINE.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF FIVE, IF YOU WILL.
RIGHT? UH, SO ONE OF THE CANDIDATES, MONICA ALSO GOT TWO VOTES LESS AND A HAND COUNT.
MICHELLE WILLIAMS GOT ONE LESS, AND BIDEN SPILLER GOT ONE LESS.
OKAY? UM, SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS THAT THE HAND COUNT VARY IN A TOTAL OF FIVE FROM THE ORIGINAL RESULTS.
AND SO THE QUESTION THAT'S UP IN THE AIR IS, WELL, WHICH ONE'S WRONG? RIGHT? YOU GOT TWO DIFFERENT SET OF NUMBERS.
UH, THE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ANYTHING AFTER THIS POINT.
THE LAW SAYS IF YOU HAVE A RECOUNT, RIGHT? THAT'S ANOTHER PRIME RESULT.
IF YOU'LL, YOU'RE GOING TO THE PAPER IN YOUR HAND COUNT AND WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THE HAND COUNT, THAT'S IT.
THE LAW DOESN'T SAY, WELL, IF THEY DON'T MATCH, GO BACK AND COUNT AGAIN AND TRY TO FIND WHAT HAPPENED.
BECAUSE ONCE YOU CLOSE THAT BOX AND YOU'RE DONE WITH THE RECOUNT, THAT'S IT.
SO, UH, IT'S A GUESSING GAME WITHOUT GOING BACK INTO THOSE BOXES AND COUNTING A THIRD TIME TO SEE WHAT WE GET.
IF I HAD TO GUESS, I WOULD GUESS IT'S HUMAN ERROR.
IT'S NOT ACROSS, IT'S ONE LOCATION.
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YOU CAN NARROW IT DOWN TO ITS, UH, WEST WEST DALLAS COLLEGE.THAT WAS ONE OF THE LARGEST ONES IN TERMS OF TURNOUT.
SO IT WOULD SEEM NOT FARFETCHED THAT BECAUSE I HAVE COUNTED HONOR VOLUME IN THAT BOX, THEY'D PROBABLY MADE A MISTAKE IN COUNTING THAT BOX, THAT PARTICULAR TEAM OF THREE THAT HANDLED THAT BOX.
BUT THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT MIGHT, IT'S WITHOUT ACTUALLY, IT REOPENING EVERYTHING.
AND KEVIN, EVERYTHING AGAIN, UH, WE WOULD RECEIVE, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING SPREAD, RIGHT? IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE SEEING LIKE EVERY BOX WAS OFF TWO OR THREE.
SO THAT LEADS ME THAT'S GOOD NEWS IS, UH, PLUS FIVE MINUS FIVE, THE OUTCOME OF YOUR ELECTION IS THE SAME.
SO WE'RE NOT IN A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY'S GONNA LEGAL CHALLENGE AND SAY, WELL, IT'S GONNA TAKE THE ORIGINAL.
IF THEY TAKE THE RECOUNT, THERE'S ANOTHER RIGHT BY ONE.
COULD BE, BUT THAT'S NOT HERE.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A GREAT, GREAT OVERVIEW OF IT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
I REALLY JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR, UM, WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE, THE PROCESS AND FOR ME TO HAVE A, UM, A MARGIN OF 0.236 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ELECTRONIC VERSION AND THE HAND COUNT SAYS A LOT ABOUT, UH, THE INTEGRITY OF THIS ELECTION.
SO I JUST WANT THANK YOU FOR, UH, FOR WHAT Y'ALL DID.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, THIS IS AN ENTIRE TEAM BEHIND.
I GET TO COME HERE AND PUT MY FACE ON.
DON'T, I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, DID I HEAR THAT YOU SAID YOU WERE ABLE TO KIND OF NARROW IT DOWN TO THE PRECINCT? THAT WHERE IT WAS OFF THE LOCATION? YEAH.
AND IS IT ON THESE REPORTS OR IS BECAUSE I SEE I DID.
WE CAN, WE CAN SEND YOU AN IT'S NOT, BUT YEAH, WE, WE KNOW WHEN WE DID THE SPREADSHEET COMPARISON.
WELL, I JUST WANNA SAY ONE OTHER THING BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU HEARD THIS WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT IT LAST TIME, BUT THIS WAS THE BEST ELECTION WE'VE HAD FROM DALLAS COUNTY SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
AND SO IT'S YOUR FIRST RIGHT? AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE CLEARLY YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN TRAINING PEOPLE AND MAKING SURE THE OPERATIONS PART OF IT WORKED PROPERLY.
AND, UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONSTERNATION ABOUT SOME OF THESE ELECTIONS AND, UM, I THINK YOU SHOULD FEEL REALLY GREAT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
AND SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UM, ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMITTEE.
BUT COUNSEL, UM, YOU ACTUALLY HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE CRAZY YOU AND, UM, THAT AGAIN, HASN'T HAPPENED IN SOME TIME.
OKAY, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, IF THERE'S NOT MORE DISCUSSION, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS REPORT RESOLUTION ORDER, ACCEPTING THE ELECTION RESULTS OF THE MANUAL, RECOUNT OF MEMBER OF COUNCIL PLACE, THIS ON THE MAY 3RD, 2025 GENERAL ELECTIONS, THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
SO WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED AND THE TIME IS 8 56.