May 28, 2025 City Council Agenda Meetings

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A QUORUM. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, MAY 28TH, 2025.

THE TIME IS 9:15 A.M., AND I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER THIS MORNING.

WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE AS OUR INVOCATION, SPEAKER, THE ILLUSTRIOUS RABBI ANDREW PALEY FROM TEMPLE SHALOM, A GOOD FRIEND OF OURS WELL KNOWN TO THIS BODY.

HE'S ALSO A CHAPLAIN WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM NOW FOR OUR INVOCATION.

GOOD MORNING RABBI. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. HOLY ONE OF BLESSING GOD OF MANY NAMES.

WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO GATHER ONCE AGAIN IN GRATITUDE AND THANKFULNESS TO BE YOUR INSTRUMENTS OF SERVICE.

AS WE BEGIN OUR WORK THIS MORNING ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS, WE PAUSE FOR A MOMENT TO MARK THIS SACRED WEEK, A TIME OF NATIONAL MEMORY AND REFLECTION AS WE COMMEMORATED MEMORIAL DAY THIS WEEK, WE REMEMBER THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY, WHO ANSWERED THE CALL TO PROTECT THE FREEDOMS WE HOLD DEAR AND PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE.

WE HONOR THEIR COURAGE. WE MOURN THEIR LOSS. WE CARRY FORWARD THE VALUES THEY DIED DEFENDING LIBERTY AND JUSTICE AND THE HOPE OF A BETTER TOMORROW. THE TORAH TEACHES SADIQ, SADIQ, TIREDOF JUSTICE, JUSTICE SHALL YOU PURSUE? BUT IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO PURSUE JUSTICE. JUSTICE MUST BE PURSUED IN A JUST MANNER.

MAY THE MEMORY OF OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN SERVICE MEMBERS GUIDE US TODAY, NOT ONLY IN SOLEMN REMEMBRANCE, BUT IN HOW WE LEAD WITH INTEGRITY, WITH COMPASSION, AND WITH PURPOSE.

HELP US TO LISTEN MORE CAREFULLY, TO SPEAK MORE THOUGHTFULLY, AND TO ACT WITH FAIRNESS AND RESOLVE, MINDFUL ALWAYS OF THE RESPONSIBILITY WE BEAR AND THE TRUST PLACED IN US.

MAY OUR DELIBERATIONS TODAY REFLECT THE BEST OF WHO WE ARE AS A CITY, AND MAY THE WORK WE DO HELP BUILD A FUTURE WORTHY OF THEIR SERVICE. AMEN. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG FIRST, AND THEN THE STATE OF TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU MAY BE SEATED. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE. I HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT AND THEN I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN

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EVERY ACTIVITY THAT WE OFFER AS A CITY CAN BE FOUND ONLINE AT D A CITY FORWARD SLASH 2025 SUMMER SAFETY. AGAIN, THAT'S DALLAS D DOT FORWARD SLASH 2025 SUMMER OF SAFETY. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING THIS YEAR THE BEST YEAR YET FOR THE SUMMER OF SAFETY, SO PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE WORD. AND WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM MISS SCHULTZ.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A PROCLAMATION AND REMARKS WITH YOUR PERMISSION.

THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO BEGIN BY JUST THANKING OUR MAYOR FOR WRITING THIS PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS STANDS AGAINST ALL FORMS OF HATE AND BIGOTRY, WE ARE UNITED IN OUR COMMITMENT TO DIGNITY, COMPASSION, AND JUSTICE FOR ALL RESIDENTS. AND WHEREAS FOR 45 YEARS, EVERY CONGRESS HAS AUTHORIZED AND EACH PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS DECLARED A PERIOD EACH YEAR FOR THE CELEBRATION OF JEWISH CULTURE, HISTORY, AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE UNITED STATES.

ORIGINALLY DESIGNATED AS JEWISH HERITAGE WEEK, IT WAS SET EACH YEAR AS THE WEEK IN APRIL OR MAY,

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AND WHEREAS ANTISEMITISM HAS BEEN RISING AT AN ALARMING RATE IN OUR COUNTRY, AND MANY OF OUR CITIES HAVE EXPERIENCED AN INCREASE IN ANTI-SEMITIC INCIDENTS, THE RESURGENCE OF THIS HATRED IS A THREAT. NOT ONLY JEWISH PEOPLE TO ALL OF US.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS IS COMMITTED TO CREATING CONDITIONS THAT ALLOW OUR COMMUNITIES TO BE SAFE, SAFE AND HEALTHY, AND WHEREAS JEWISH AMERICANS HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ARTS, ENTERTAINMENT, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS, CULINARY TRADITIONS, AND OTHER FIELDS IN THE UNITED STATES.

JEWISH AMERICANS HAVE PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN SHAPING AMERICAN CULTURE, AND WHEREAS BY RECOGNIZING MAY AS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, THE CITY OF DALLAS AIMS TO CELEBRATE THE VIBRANT HERITAGE OF JEWISH AMERICANS WHO HAVE ENRICHED OUR COUNTRY AND OUR COMMUNITIES FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, ERIC JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 2025 AS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

NOW, IF I MAY, I HAVE A FEW REMARKS OF MY OWN.

THANK YOU SIR. IT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT FEW YEARS FOR JEWISH AMERICANS.

SHERYL SANDBERG RECENTLY CALLED THE PAST 70 YEARS THE POST-HOLOCAUST ERA AS, QUOTE, A VACATION FROM HISTORY.

FROM THE BEGINNING OF OUR PEOPLEHOOD 3000 YEARS AGO, WE'VE BEEN ISOLATED, INSULATED, AND EVEN EXILED FROM THE PLACES WE WANTED TO CALL HOME.

HOWEVER, OUR EXPERIENCE HERE IN DALLAS HAS BEEN QUITE DIFFERENT.

WE IN DALLAS HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO BE SO WELL INTEGRATED INTO DALLAS SOCIETY.

DALLAS BUSINESS. DALLAS ARTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

NOT EVERY CITY IN AMERICA IS LIKE THIS. STUDENTS ARE ACCOSTED ON THEIR WAY TO CLASS ANTI-JEW.

GRAFFITI IS PROLIFIC. PEOPLE ARE MURDERED IN THE STREETS AND WHILE WORSHIPING.

EVEN IN OUR NEIGHBORING CITY OF COLLIERVILLE, WORSHIPERS FACED A TERRORIST.

BUT HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, OUR NEIGHBORS AND COLLEAGUES HAVE STOOD STEADFAST IN THEIR SUPPORT FOR OUR PEOPLEHOOD.

WHEN WE HAVE FELT UNDER THREAT, OUR CITY STAFF AND POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE RALLIED WITHOUT HESITATION.

FOR THAT, I WILL ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL. BUT SINCE THIS IS AN ANNUAL CELEBRATION ABOUT HERITAGE, LET'S SHIFT THE FOCUS. THE JEWISH HISTORY OF DALLAS IS PROFOUND.

FROM THE EARLY DAYS OF SETTLEMENT OF THE CITY, THERE WERE JEWS HERE, THOUGH NOT ALWAYS WELCOME TO LIVE ANYWHERE WE WANTED.

WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN INTEGRATED INTO CITY LEADERSHIP, BUSINESS AND THE ARTS.

LITTLE MEXICO WAS ONCE A JEWISH SETTLEMENT. FAIR PARK, SOUTH DALLAS WAS ONCE A JEWISH NEIGHBORHOOD.

OAK CLIFF WAS HOME TO HUNDREDS OF JEWISH FAMILIES.

SCHEPPS FREEWAY. PARTS OF HAMILTON PARK BEAR JEWISH NAMES.

BECAUSE WE'RE SO INVOLVED, YOU MIGHT THINK WE'RE A LARGE PART OF THE POPULATION.

IN FACT, WE'VE NEVER ACHIEVED MORE THAN 6% OF THE CITY'S RESIDENTS AND HISTORICALLY WERE A MUCH SMALLER GROUP.

OUR HERITAGE IN DALLAS IS LONG AND STRONG. THE ONLY FEMALE MAYORS IN DALLAS HISTORY HAVE ALL BEEN JEWISH WOMEN.

OUR INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS BEGAN WITH MAYOR ANNETTE STRAUSS.

WE RECENTLY FOUGHT HARD TO KEEP NEIMAN MARCUS OPEN A STORE ALONG WITH SANGER-HARRIS THAT WAS BUILT BY JEWISH FAMILIES.

TEMPLE EMANUEL LEADS THE ENTIRE FAITH COMMUNITY IN COMMUNITY AND FOOD JUSTICE.

MANY OF THE BEST SOCIAL PROGRAMS BEGAN WITH JEWISH WOMEN TRYING TO MAKE THE WORLD A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

THE HIPPIE PROGRAM, THE VOGEL ALCOVE, THE FAMILY PLACE, DALLAS CASA LIFT, THE FIRST SCHOOL VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS, AND SO MANY OTHER LIFE CHANGING IMPACTS WERE ALL CREATED BY THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OF JEWISH WOMEN.

DALLAS. OF COURSE, THERE ARE ALSO LEGENDARY JEWISH MEN WHO PROFOUNDLY, PROFOUNDLY IMPACTED THE BUSINESS, ARTS, HEALTH CARE, AND PHILANTHROPIC LANDSCAPES.

SIMPLY CALLING OUT THE NAMES OF FRANK REICH, STAN RABIN, RON STEINHARDT, MORTON MYERSON, AND SALLY BIELAWSKI BRING IMAGES OF THE ARTS DISTRICT, EVERY SINGLE HOSPITAL SYSTEM, THE COMMUNITIES FOUNDATION, THE HOLOCAUST AND HUMAN RIGHTS MUSEUM, AND COUNTLESS OTHER INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE TRANSFORMED DALLAS INTO THE WORLD CLASS CITY WE'VE BECOME.

I COULD GO ON AND ON SHARING OUR PROUD HISTORY AND GIFTS TO THE CITY, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW YOUR CURIOSITY THROUGH THE DALLAS JEWISH HISTORICAL SOCIETY IN HONOR OF THIS SPECIAL MONTH. LET ME CLOSE BY SAYING THAT THE ALLYSHIP OF OUR NON-JEWISH COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIAL NOT ONLY TO OUR SAFETY, BUT TO DALLAS'S FUTURE, JUST AS IT HAS BEEN FOR OVER 150 YEARS.

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I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT, THOUGH, TO SHARE MY THANKS TO GOVERNOR ABBOTT, WHO SIGNED SB 326 INTO LAW LAST WEEK.

I'M HONORED TO SERVE ON THE TEXAS HOLOCAUST, GENOCIDE AND ANTISEMITISM ADVISORY COMMISSION, AND THIS LAW WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE COMMISSION'S STUDY ON ANTI-SEMITISM.

SB 326 EXPANDS THE APPLICATION OF THE INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE ALLIANCE.

DEFINITION OF ANTISEMITISM IN THE TEXAS EDUCATION CODE FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR GRADES KINDERGARTEN THROUGH COLLEGE.

IT'S A TOOL FOR SCHOOLS TO DETERMINE WHETHER A STUDENT'S CODE OF CONDUCT VIOLATION WAS MOTIVATED BY ANTISEMITISM.

SENATOR KING AND REPRESENTATIVE CAPRIGLIONE DESERVE A LOT OF THANKS FOR CHAMPIONING THIS EFFORT IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE ALSO.

COMMISSION VICE CHAIR SANDRA PARKER OF SAN ANTONIO AND COMMISSION CHAIR KEN GOLDBERG OF DALLAS DID AN EXCELLENT JOB ADVISING LEGISLATORS ON THIS IMPORTANT BILL.

THE BILL DEMONSTRATES TEXAS'S LEADERSHIP IN COMBATING ANTISEMITISM.

ANTISEMITISM IS RISING AT ALARMING RATE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING HERE IN DALLAS AND IN THE METROPLEX.

THIS INCLUDES THREATS, HARASSMENT, VANDALISM AND PUBLIC RHETORIC, WHICH IS TARGETING JEWISH INDIVIDUALS SIMPLY FOR THEIR IDENTITY D.

WHILE IT AFFECTS JEWS DIRECTLY, IT'S A BROADER ISSUE OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY.

AS WE ALL KNOW, A COMMUNITY THAT TOLERATES HATE IN ANY FORM BECOMES LESS SAFE AND LESS JUST FOR EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR CELEBRATING JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH WITH US.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WITH THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY FURTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING.

THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL HEAR ITS FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE, APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM.

FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON. FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

ASIAN INDIVIDUALS. WE'RE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME AT THE MONITOR ON THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON. ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, BRUCE CARTER.

GOOD MORNING. OKAY. YEAH, I WANTED TO JUST ADDRESS THE VIOLENCE IN DALLAS AS I TRAVEL THE COUNTRY AND CONTINUALLY WORK TO UNDERSTAND BETTER HOW WE REDUCE VIOLENCE.

DALLAS HAS ITS OWN ISSUES. AND SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, HOW DO WE MAKE DECISIONS TO REALLOCATE FUNDS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR EFFORTS TO REDUCE VIOLENCE? AND THE SAD PART IS WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS YOU CANNOT REDUCE VIOLENCE WITH POLICE ALONE.

SO YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE WILLING TO BE ON THE FOREFRONT OF THE STREETS, UNDERSTANDING WHAT PEOPLE NEED, WHAT ARE THEIR MINDS AND WHY ARE THEY PERFORM THE WAY THEY PERFORM.

AND WITH THAT, I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL ANY DOLLARS THAT ARE LEFT THAT FOR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS THAT ARE ATTEMPTING TO CREATE CHANGE TO CREATE SAFE PLACES. YOU JUST HEARD HEARD THE MAYOR TALK ABOUT HOW DURING THE SUMMER, CRIME NATURALLY GOES UP. THAT'S TRUE. SO WHAT DO WE DO? WHO DO WE SUPPORT? I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF MEETING WITH SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS DOING THE WILMER-HUTCHINS CRISIS AND THEIR ORGANIZATIONS.

THAT'S PREPARED. BUT IN THIS CURRENT ECONOMY, WE CAN'T HOPE AND THINK THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST VOLUNTEER.

SO I'M ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER, FIND, DO THEIR BEST IF YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, FIND THE 700 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WAS REALLOCATED FROM THE IPS. WHAT OTHER POOLS OF MONEY ARE SITTING THERE? AND I KNOW THIS COUNCIL IS ON ITS WAY OUT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU LIVE, WORK OR PLAY IN DALLAS, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, WHO AM I? WHO AM I SAVING? WHILE I'M NOT IN THE CITY, MY GRANDCHILDREN ARE THERE.

MY CHILDREN ARE THERE. MY OFFICE IS THERE. SO IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO OUR BEST.

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AND THE SIZE OF THE CITY. THE SIZE OF DALLAS.

I MUST BE HONEST WITH YOU. YOU ARE SO FAR BEHIND.

THE. CHICAGO'S THE PHILADELPHIA, THE MILWAUKEE'S ALL THESE CITIES THAT HAS LARGE VIOLENCE SPECIFICALLY WITHIN YOUNG BLACK MALES.

YOUR FUNDING IS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST TOO LOW. SO MY MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS THIS COUNCIL GOES OUT, NEW COUNCIL COMES IN THAT YOU CONSIDER WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE DALLAS SAFER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU DEREK.

GOOD MORNING CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DEREK BATIK, NATIVE OF SINKING HILLS, TEXAS.

1342 EAST REDBIRD LANE. IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JOHNSON, OUR GOOD FRIENDS.

MR. ATKINS, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT. GOOD MORNING.

DONALD PARRISH IS NOT SPEAKING TODAY, SO I GUESS I HAVE TO DO THE PREACHING.

I WANT TO START, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THESE AWESOME INDIVIDUALS HERE.

PROVERBS 16 AND THREE. COMMIT YOUR WORK TO THE LORD AND YOUR PLANS WILL BE ESTABLISHED.

WE'VE COMMITTED OUR WORKS FOR YEARS OF THE SUMMER OF SAFETY.

WE WERE HERE LAST YEAR, ABOUT YEAR TO DATE, ABOUT THIS TIME ASKING FOR SUPPORT FOR CVI PROGRAMS AND ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS TO ASSIST OUR OFFICERS OUT THERE IN THE STREETS TO MENTOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. WE HAVE ONE OF THE ONLY SITUATIONS WHERE WE'VE HAD ONE OF OUR SCHOOLS THAT HAVE BEEN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION.

THOSE KIDS NEED MENTORS. WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THAT.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE BECAME THE ONLY ORGANIZATION TO WORK WITH THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAPACITY THROUGH FOR OAKCLIFF.

WE WENT OUT AND WE ENGAGED OVER 150 YOUNG PEOPLE AT THE FAIR ON DISD FAHRENHEIT.

OUR GOAL WAS JUST TO GET ABOUT 60 PEOPLE. WE ENDED UP GETTING 160 KIDS THAT SIGNED UP.

THEY WAS RUNNING TO US, RUNNING TO THESE LEADERS SAYING, WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED.

AND I BELIEVE WHEN YOU MIX MENTORS AND OPPORTUNITIES, WE CAN DO THE WORK THAT OUR BRAVE POLICE OFFICERS SIMPLY JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO.

WE HEAR ABOUT POLICE TIMES AND RESPONSE TIMES BEING UP.

THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AND WHAT WE CALL TRANSFORMATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY OPTIONS, WHERE WE DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

AND THANK YOU. CARA MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. TENNELL ATKINS.

THANK YOU. ZARIN D GRACEY. I'LL CALL YOU OUT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED BEHIND THE SCENES SO HARD IN IDENTIFYING A LANE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO ASK ALL OF YOU TO SUPPORT THESE INDIVIDUAL LEADERS.

ALL OF US KNOW HOW IMPORTANT TEACHERS ARE. THESE ARE JUST TEACHERS EXPANDED FROM THE CLASSROOM.

THEY'RE AT OUR SCHOOLS EVERY DAY. THEY'RE WORKING WITH OUR HOMELESS STUDENTS EVERY DAY.

I MET WITH ZARIN D GRACEY ABOUT SOMETHING FOR HOMELESS YOUTH.

I KNOW WE HAVE A HUGE POT FOR HOMELESS BUT HOMELESS YOUTH.

ALL OF THIS IS CONNECTED TO PUBLIC SAFETY IN MY OPINION.

THANK YOU JESSE FOR YOUR TIME, BUT WE HOPE THAT WITH YOUR VOTE AND MAYOR JOHNSON, WE HOPE THAT YOU CONTINUE AS YOU DEAL WITH YOUR MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON SAFE COMMUNITIES THAT, FIRST OF ALL, BROUGHT THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO US BLIGHT REMEDIATION, STRATEGIC LIGHTING, CONFLICT RESOLUTION IN OUR SCHOOLS FOR SIXTH GRADERS FROM SIXTH GRADE TO 12TH GRADE, AND THEN COMMUNITY VIOLENCE INTERVENTION SPECIALISTS OF WHAT WE CALL LIVED EXPERIENCE, INDIVIDUALS WHO CARE ENOUGH ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE OUT THERE AND GO DOWN THOSE DARK ALLEYWAYS THAT NOBODY WANTS TO.

AND THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM CAROLYN KING ARNOLD AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LAMAR GLASS. GOOD MORNING.

I'LL BE BRIEF. I'M LAMAR, I'M WITH THE WITHERSPOON LAW GROUP.

EXCUSE ME. WE JUST HAVE A SIMPLE PROBLEM AT OUR FACILITY.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER ON SITE, BUT WE HAD AN 18 WHEELER TO COME THROUGH FROM 30 TO THE FENCE.

THIS IS OUR THIRD INCIDENT. WE HAVE KIDS PLAYING OUTSIDE.

WE HAVE COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT HAPPENS. WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID A KID GETTING HIT.

RIGHT NOW OUR GATE IS DOWN, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR ANY HELP FROM CITY COUNCIL.

WE CAN PUT UP BOULDERS OR SOMETHING THAT CAN STOP CARS FROM HITTING THE KID.

SO IF Y'ALL COULD HELP US OUT WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WE'RE IN DISTRICT SEVEN, 55, 65 DEER CREEK DRIVE, I-30 AND JIM MILLER. SO IF YOU GUYS COULD GIVE US ANY KIND OF SOLUTION,

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SO IF Y'ALL CAN HELP US OUT WITH THAT, WE'LL BE GREAT. AND THAT'S WITH THE WITHERSPOON LAW GROUP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

HASSAN. HASSAN. HASSAN. HASSAN IS NOT PRESENT.

TIFFANY. YOUNG. GOOD MORNING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR. I PROBABLY HAVE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES HERE, BUT I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

FIRST WANTED TO JUST SHOUT OUT MY ALMA MATER, LINCOLN, THE LEGENDARY LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL.

I KNOW WE GOT SOME SOFT GOLDEN BEARS IN THE HOUSE TODAY.

BUT WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT BRINGING THE DALLAS WINGS TO DALLAS, THERE WERE ALSO CELEBRATING OUR YOUNG LADIES HERE AT 1500.

MARILLA. THEY WON ON THE HEELS OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, SO I THOUGHT WE WOULD SEE A CELEBRATION HERE, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I SWUNG THIS WAY TO SHOUT THOSE YOUNG LADIES OUT.

SO I'LL LEAVE THAT THERE. BUT AS WE TALK ABOUT PARITY EQUITY.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALSO CELEBRATING OUR WOMEN IN SPORTS.

NEXT. SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND CITY HALL LONG ENOUGH TO HEAR ME TALK ABOUT THE TRAINING ISSUES IN DISTRICT SEVEN.

SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES. AT FORNI ROAD, PRAIRIE CREEK AND SAM HOUSTON ARE THE INTERSECTIONS.

WHEN I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON THE COUNCIL, I KNOW WE WORKED ON A QUIET ZONE, WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY AND TIRELESSLY WITH A NUMBER OF ENTITIES TO GET A BRIDGE BUILT OVER THE ROAD AT PRAIRIE CREEK WHERE WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THE TRAIN HOLDING FOR HOURS AND HOURS ON END. PUBLIC SAFETY CAN'T GET IN AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO REALLY WE'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT ISSUE, HAVE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO GUS.

HE HAS RESPONDED TO THE EMAILS, WHICH IS MORE THAN WHAT SOME HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, BUT HE HAS BEEN RESPONSIVE.

BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ORGANIZED HOA'S IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT ASKING THIS MORNING FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE SINCE THAT BOND PASSED IN 2017.

ON WHAT THE STATUS IS WITH THE BRIDGE THAT WILL BE BUILT, AND THEN ALSO WHERE WE ARE WITH THE QUIET ZONE.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT, VOTED ON IT IN 1617.

IT WENT AWAY BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES WITH THE SUPPLEMENTAL STOP GAPS OR THE CURB IN THE ROAD AND THE SIGNAGE THAT NEEDED TO CHANGE, BUT REALLY JUST SEEKING A TIMELINE, A DEFINED TIMELINE OF WHEN WE MIGHT SEE SOME CONSTRUCTION STARTING ON THE BRIDGE FROM THE 2017 BOND, AS WELL AS WHEN THE TRAINS ARE BLOWING ALL DAY, ALL NIGHT.

NOISE POLLUTION IN THE COMMUNITY. WE HAD SOME NEW HOMES THAT WERE BUILT THAT SHOULD HAVE HAD A SOUND WALL BUILT BEHIND THEM A FEW YEARS BACK.

THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. SO REALLY HERE, JUST SEEKING A TIMELINE AND A COMMUNITY, ASKING FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING TO COME BACK AND LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THAT BOND PROJECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS INCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING, MR. MAYOR. WONDERFUL. LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA.

[VOTING AGENDA]

ALL RIGHT. MOTION AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA,

[11. Authorize the Department of Aviation through the City of Dallas to (1) adopt a twelve-year use and lease agreement with Southwest Airlines Co. for 18 of the 20 aeronautical gates at Dallas Love Field, commencing on October 1, 2028 until and terminating on September 30, 2040; (2) the City Manager to set forth the terms for an airline/airport project agreement for the Love Field Expansion Airport Program (LEAP) of 2025-2035, which includes approval of a capital development program and significant infrastructure enhancements to the airport over the next ten years; and (3) the City Manager to the createion of the LEAP Advisory Council to oversee and execute the Capital Development Project funding for general aviation revenue bonds - Financing No cost consideration to the City Estimated Revenue: Aviation Operation Fund $5,000,000,000.00 (over 12 years)]

WATTERSON. SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR LAST NAME.

THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ANDREW WATTERSON.

THIS MICROPHONES. HOW ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU. I'M ANDREW WATTERSON.

I'M THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, AND I REPRESENT THE MORE THAN 71,000 EMPLOYEES OF DALLAS BASED SOUTHWEST AIRLINES.

I'M HERE ON THEIR BEHALF TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE TO DRASTICALLY IMPROVE FLYING DOMESTICALLY IN THE UNITED STATES.

TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL. CHAIR NARVAEZ. CITY MANAGER TOLBERT.

MAYOR JOHNSON THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WORKING TO IMPROVE OUR LONG RELATIONSHIP.

I THINK IT'S, IN MY OPINION, AT A 54 YEAR HIGH.

AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE EFFORTS ON YOUR PART TO TO MEET US.

SOUTHWEST LOVES DALLAS. LOVE, LOVE DALLAS. AND IT'S CLEAR TODAY THAT THAT FEELING IS MUTUAL.

THIS NOVEMBER WILL HAVE COMPLETED A DOZEN YEARS IN THE NEW FACILITY IN THE MODERNIZED DALLAS LOVE FIELD AIRPORT,

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THE NEW TERMINAL IS DESIGNED FOR 8 MILLION IN PAYMENTS.

LAST YEAR, 9 MILLION PASSENGERS BOARDED A COMMERCIAL FLIGHT AT LOVE FIELD, AND BY 2040, PROJECTIONS ARE THAT WILL BE 12 MILLION.

USE THIS POPULAR FACILITY IN THE HEART OF DALLAS.

ALL THAT LOVE AGAIN. LOVE HAS BROUGHT US AN OPPORTUNITY.

IMPROVED THE FACILITY EVEN FURTHER. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY.

THE CITY OF DALLAS LEADERS AIRPORT DIRECTOR CORINO FOR REACHING THIS AGREEMENT WITH SOUTHWEST TO EXTEND OUR LEASE THROUGH 2040 AND ENDORSE A NEEDED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT WILL BRING BIG IMPROVEMENTS AND VERY GOOD THINGS, INCLUDING LARGER HOTEL ROOMS, MORE CONCESSIONS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, BIGGER RESTROOMS ALWAYS A POPULAR TOPIC, A NEEDED REPLACEMENT OF GARAGE, A BRING, EXPANDED BAGGAGE HANDLING SYSTEMS AND CHECK IN AREA.

EXPANDED ENTRANCE AND CURB. HERB KELLEHER DRIVE WITH A ROADWAY AND CURBSIDE IMPROVEMENTS.

MORE PUBLIC PARKING AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEARBY CONSOLIDATED CURBSIDE RENTAL CAR FACILITY.

ALL OF THESE THINGS CONTRIBUTE TO A CUSTOMER SERVICE MISSION THAT WE SHARE WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS TO USHER TRAVEL AND TOURISM THROUGH A SHOWPLACE THAT REFLECTS THE CHARACTER AND PROMISE OF DALLAS AND FOR SOUTHWEST, AND GIVES OUR PEOPLE AND THEIR HOSPITALITY A PLACE TO SHINE.

WE'RE HONORED TO CALL DALLAS HOME. AND WITH THIS NEW LEASE, LOVE REMAINS OUR HOME FIELD THROUGH 2040 AND SECURING A BRIGHT FUTURE FOR TRAVELERS AND FOR DALLAS AS ONE OF ITS LARGEST TAXPAYERS AND EMPLOYERS, WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO DEEPEN THE RELATIONSHIP OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE PARTNERED WITH MORE WITH YOU WITH MORE THAN HALF A CENTURY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORTS.

HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT THREE SPEAKERS WILL BE SPEAKING ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 24.

[24. A resolution authorizing the adoption of the update to the Dallas Bike Plan - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information for future costs)]

GOOD TO GO. OKAY. HI. MY NAME IS REBECCA KORNBLUM, PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS BICYCLE COALITION.

WE REPRESENT HUNDREDS OF ADVOCATES FOR SAFE STREETS AND SAFE BIKING IN DALLAS.

PASSING THE BIKE PLAN TODAY IS A HUGE STEP. AS A CITY, WE HAVE A HISTORY OF FALLING SHORT ON SAFE STREETS AND SAFE BIKING.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, THAT FAILURE DOES NOT JUST RESULT IN BACKED UP TRAFFIC, BUT AVOIDABLE DEATHS AND INJURIES ON OUR ROADS THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ENSURE NEVER HAPPENS. TODAY IS JUST THE FOUNDATION AND BIKE ADVOCATES THAT CAME TODAY BEHIND ME, AND THE MANY THAT COULD MAKE IT ON A WEEKDAY MORNING WILL HOLD DALLAS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PLANS AND IMPLEMENTATION. WE SENT A LETTER THIS MORNING, ALONG WITH 60 OF OUR COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS PARTNERS, CALLING FOR US TO MOVE FASTER, NOT ONLY MORE FUNDING, BUT MORE EFFICIENT AND TRANSPARENT CONSTRUCTION WHILE PRIORITIZING SAFETY.

WE SUPPORT THE PLAN, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO DEDICATED FUNDING AND NO CLEAR TIMELINE AFTER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

LET'S BE BOLD AS A CITY. WHAT CAN WE ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS INSTEAD OF 20, 30, 40? SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP SO FAR, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING MORE CLOSELY WITH ALL OF YOU AS WE MAKE DALLAS A SAFER PLACE TO TRAVEL, NO MATTER THE MODE. THANK YOU. ASHLEY FLETCHER.

HI. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ASHLEY FLETCHER, AND I AM THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR BIKE FRIENDLY SOUTH DALLAS AND BIKE FRIENDLY. SOUTH DALLAS IS BASICALLY THREE TIERS, AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO REPRESENT OUR BIKING COMMUNITY.

WE'RE PASSIONATE CYCLISTS. FIRST OF ALL, BIKE FRIENDLY SOUTH DALLAS TEACHES BICYCLE EDUCATION.

WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO PROPERLY RIDE THEIR BIKES.

WE TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE.

WE TEACH THEM HOW TO BIKE TO THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE.

WE TEACH THEM HOW TO BIKE TO SCHOOL WHEN THEY GET THEIR BIKES OR THEIR BIRTHDAY BIKES.

WE ALSO TEACH SKILLS, HOW TO MAINTAIN BIKES, THINGS LIKE THAT, SO THAT THEIR BIKES ARE NOT SITTING ON THE GARAGE, IN THE GARAGE, OR ON THE PATIO WHEN THE COMMUNITY DECIDES TO GIVE A BIG DONATION OF BICYCLES.

WE EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON THOSE ON HOW TO RIDE THOSE BIKES, WHAT TO WEAR, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE ARE COMMUNITY RIDERS. WE DON'T RIDE JUST FOR FUN.

IT'S ALWAYS FUN. YES IT IS. BUT WE RIDE BECAUSE MAYBE WE NEED TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD A CAR.

OR MAYBE OUR KIDS ARE. SO MANY OF THEM. WE JUST PUT THEM ON A BIKE AND BIKE THEM TO SCHOOL.

IT SAVES US GAS MONEY. IT'S ECONOMICAL FOR US.

IT'S AFFORDABLE. BICYCLES ARE LEGITIMATE MEANS FOR TRANSPORTATION.

THEY'RE GOOD FOR OUR MINDS, OUR BODY AND OUR COMMUNITY.

THE ENVIRONMENT. THEY'RE AFFORDABLE. AND THAT'S WHY I APPRECIATE EVERYONE FOR SUPPORTING THE DALLAS BIKE PLAN, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO KEEP PEOPLE MORE MOTIVATED TO BIKE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE SUPPORT, LIKE REDEEMED WOMEN. THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL HELPED US GET OUR BUILDING SO THAT WE CAN BIKE MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT COME IN.

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SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT WITH THE BIKE PLAN.

THANK YOU. IAN SIMMONS. GOOD MORNING MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS IAN SIMMONS AND I'M THE DALLAS CITY HALL ADVOCATE FOR ENVIRONMENT TEXAS.

WE ARE A NONPROFIT THAT WORKS FOR CLEAN AIR, CLEAN WATER, WILDLIFE, OPEN SPACES AND A LIVABLE CLIMATE FOR ALL TEXANS.

THE DALLAS COMPREHENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, OR CAP, HAS THE IMPORTANT GOAL OF REDUCING THE CITY'S GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS BY 43% BELOW 2015 LEVELS BY 2030, ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S LATEST GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY, WHICH WAS SIX YEARS AGO.

TRANSPORTATION IS THE SECTOR RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LARGEST SHARE OF THOSE EMISSIONS, WHICH IS 39%.

ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY IS IN SEVERE NON-ATTAINMENT STATUS FOR GROUND LEVEL OZONE, WHICH IS ALSO PRIMARILY CAUSED BY TRANSPORTATION.

BY CREATING A MORE BIKEABLE, WALKABLE, AND LIVABLE CITY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO LEAVE THEIR CAR AT HOME, THE CITY CAN TAKE REAL STRIDES TOWARDS REDUCING OUR PLANET WARMING EMISSIONS AND CLEANING UP OUR AIR.

THE DALLAS BIKE PLAN IS ACTIONABLE, ACHIEVABLE AND BRINGS ACCOUNTABILITY WITH A STANDING BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE CITY OF RICHARDSON'S BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE THAT THE PASSAGE OF A PLAN LIKE THIS CAN BE TRANSFORMATIVE TO THE WAY A CITY THINKS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.

HOWEVER, PASSING THIS PLAN IS NOT ENOUGH. AS BECCA SAID, I BELIEVE IF WE ARE GOING TO MEET OUR GOALS AND CREATE THE CITY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE, COUNCIL NEEDS TO REMAIN COMMITTED TO INVESTING IN OUR BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE COME BUDGET SEASON.

INVESTMENTS IN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE PAYS DIVIDENDS IN REDUCING POLLUTION, HELPING RESIDENTS LEAD A HEALTHIER LIFE AND BY COSTING LESS THAN INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT FOR CARS. AS AN INITIAL STEP TOWARDS A CLEANER, GREENER AND MORE BIKEABLE DALLAS, I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THE DALLAS BIKE PLAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA ITEM TEN WAS CORRECTED. AGENDA ITEM 11 WAS CORRECTED.

AGENDA ITEM 12 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND WAS ALSO CORRECTED.

AGENDA ITEM 13 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 14 WAS DELETED. AGENDA ITEM 15 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 21 WAS CORRECTED. AGENDA ITEM 22 HAS A CORRECTION CLARIFYING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION, NOT A RENOVATION. AGENDA ITEM 23 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AGENDA ITEM 30 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER.

MEMBER MENDELSOHN AGENDA ITEM 33 AND 34 WERE CORRECTED.

ITEM 36 WAS DELETED. ITEM 44 WAS DELETED, AND AGENDA ITEM 47 IS BEING PULLED AS COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON HAS A CONFLICT.

THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 11, 16 THROUGH 22, 24 THROUGH 29, 31 THROUGH 35, 37 THROUGH 43, 45 AND 46. THIS IS YOUR. I'LL SECOND. SECOND.

I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. MAYBE FROM THE SAME PERSON.

MAYBE NOT. BUT I'LL PRETEND LIKE I HEARD IT FROM TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

NO. MADAM SECRETARY, YOU HEARD THE MOTION IN THE SECOND.

AND SO WE ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE CONSENT? CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THAT. JUST A COUPLE OF SHORT ITEMS. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE APPLICANT IN ITEM 21.

IT'S A HOUSING FINANCE CORP DEAL IN MY DISTRICT.

VERY GREAT PROJECT. REPLACING A VACANT LOT, AN ABANDONED CHURCH.

IT'S GOING TO BRING 200 MIXED INCOME HOUSING UNITS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE.

I THINK THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN STARTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, BACK WHEN CASEY THOMAS.

WHEN THIS USED TO BE DISTRICT THREE. AND IT'S GOING TO BRING ONE, TWO AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS, MEANING THAT INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIVE THERE.

SO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. ALSO EXTREMELY EXCITED THAT TODAY WE ARE FINALLY APPROVING THE UPDATE TO OUR CITY'S BIKE PLAN, WHICH WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2011. THIS PLAN PROVIDES MUCH NEEDED ADVANCES TO OUR BIKE NETWORK,

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I WANT TO THANK DIRECTOR CALI FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO IMPROVING SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK, BIKE, AND TAKE TRANSIT. I ALSO WANT TO THANK JESSICA SCOTT AND FORMER STAFFER KATHRYN RUSCH FOR YOUR YEARS OF DEDICATION TO GETTING THIS PLAN ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

WE, OF COURSE, WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY WITHOUT THE ADVOCACY OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE DEMANDING, RIGHTFULLY SO, DEMANDING, SAFER STREETS, INCLUDING THE DALLAS BICYCLE COALITION, THE LOOP BIKE FRIENDLY OAK CLIFF, BIKE FRIENDLY SOUTH DALLAS, AND THE MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE PUSHED OUR CITY IN A BETTER DIRECTION.

WE KNOW THAT MAKING OUR STREETS SAFER FOR BIKES MEANS THAT THEY WILL BE SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS AND DRIVERS AS WELL.

WITH MORE PEOPLE DYING IN OUR CITY FROM CAR CRASHES THAN HOMICIDES, IT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER THAT WE START INVESTING IN SAFER STREETS.

ON THAT NOTE, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED PACE OF THE BUILDOUT.

I SHARE SOME OF THE ADVOCATES CONCERNS. I SUPPORT THE DALLAS BICYCLE COALITION AND THEIR 60 PARTNERS, WHO SENT A LETTER THIS MORNING TO INCREASE ANNUAL BIKE FUNDING TO $3 MILLION AND IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES FOR RESURFACING AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT DEDICATED STAFF. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SUFFICIENTLY FUND TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS TO GIVE THEM THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS PLAN DOESN'T JUST SIT ON A SHELF THAT ACTUALLY GETS BUILT. YOU KNOW, MY VICTORIA AND PRESTON, MY KIDS AND I HAD THE CHANCE TO RIDE IN THE DALLAS BIKE RIDE, WHICH WAS A 20 MILE BIKE RIDE AROUND THE CITY.

WE DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT 20 MILES. THEY DID THE CUT OFF HALFWAY THROUGH, BUT AND ALL THEY WROTE ABOUT 16, AND IT WAS AMAZING TO SEE HOW MUCH OF OUR CITY YOU COULD TRAVERSE WHEN THE ROADS ARE PROTECTED AND THEY'RE SAFE FOR CYCLISTS.

MY KIDS WENT IN PARTS OF THE CITY THEY'VE NEVER EVEN PAID ATTENTION TO BEFORE, BECAUSE WE'RE USUALLY DRIVING SO FAST THROUGH THEM ON A CAR.

AND I THINK IT'S A DREAM THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT GENERATION TO SEE HAPPEN, TO HAVE A CITY WE CAN GET AROUND IN SAFELY AND WITHOUT FEARING FOR YOUR LIFE.

IN OTHER WAYS, BESIDES JUST BEING IN A CAR. SO I'M EXCITED TODAY.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT MORE WE NEED TO DO. THIS IS AN INCREMENTAL STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION THAT A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO.

SO THANK YOU, EVERYONE. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT AN ITEM THAT IS NOT PART OF MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE FUNDING OF GRAND PRAIRIE ISD THROUGH AN ILA FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR THE STUDENTS. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED OF US.

BUT THE THING THAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE DIFFERENCES THAT DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR CITY HAVE, AND THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE AND NEED AS SUPPORT.

SO VERY OFTEN WHEN BUDGET SEASON COMES, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT FUNDING THE RICHARDSON ISD SCHOOL SAFETY PROGRAM WITH ONE OFFICER WHERE THEY'RE FUNDING THE OTHER NINE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT AGAIN THAT DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN NEED DIFFERENT THINGS IN DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SUPPORT.

AND IN THIS CASE, TRANSPORTATION IS NEEDED. AND I'M CERTAIN WE'LL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN AT BUDGET TIME.

BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO FUND THINGS FOR OTHER DISTRICTS, OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS, BASED ON THEIR NEEDS. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WILL KEEP IT BRIEF, BUT JUST WANTED TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT ITEM 24 SPECIFICALLY, AND THANK OUR BIKE ADVOCATES AND FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

ASHLEY. SPECIFICALLY BIKE FRIENDLY SOUTH DALLAS.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO WITH SOUTH DALLAS. WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL COMMUNITY LEADERS ABOUT OUR NEED TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE MORE OPPORTUNITY AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT, AND I THINK THAT WE DISCOUNT THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND THE GROUP DOES IN HELPING PROVIDE PRODUCTIVE OPTIONS FOR OUR YOUTH.

AND ALSO PROVIDING RESOURCES FOR OUR YOUTH TO HAVE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION BEYOND JUST FOR RECREATION.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT. I WILL SECOND WHAT MY COLLEAGUE MR. WEST SAID ON THE TIMELINE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF PRIORITIZING FUNDING.

CITY MANAGER. I KNOW THAT WE'RE COMING UP ON A FUN BUDGET SEASON, THAT SOME CUTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE, AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE.

ONE THING I THINK WE ALL COULD AGREE ON IN THE TRAVELING THAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE A PART OF, DIFFERENT CONFERENCES THAT WE CAN ATTEND IS WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER CITIES IN THE TOP TIER OF THIS COUNTRY,

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THE ABILITY TO NOT HAVE TO STEP FOOT IN A CAR AND OTHER PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY IS ONE THAT I'M ENVIOUS OF AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE US BE, YOU KNOW, MORE PROACTIVE AND AGGRESSIVE IN ACCOMPLISHING.

SO I JUST AM EXCITED. THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING.

THIS IS A LOT OF WORK PUT IN. I KNOW MR. WEST HAS CHAMPIONED THIS ALONG WITH PARKING REFORM AS WELL.

SO SEEING THAT WE'RE FINALLY MAKING SOME PROGRESSIVE STRIDES TOWARDS, INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY IS IS VERY EXCITING FOR ME.

SO HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS ONE. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M ON THE RIGHT TOPIC FIRST, BECAUSE I WANT TO ELABORATE ON ONE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT ON ITEM EIGHT. JUST THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE CONTRACT THAT SPEAKS TO WORK THAT'S GOING ON AT THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, JUST HOPING THAT IT WILL PROVIDE A GOOD BALANCE, AS THAT COMMUNITY AT CADILLAC HEIGHTS CONTINUES TO LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY AND WHATEVER IMPROVEMENTS THROUGH THEIR DESIGN AND THE ENGINEERING SCHEME, THE SCHEMATIC OF THINGS, CONSTRUCTIONS, WE'RE HOPING THAT LONG TERM THAT COMMUNITY WILL NOT BE VICTIMIZED FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, BUT THROUGH THESE AND DEVELOPMENTS, PERHAPS THE SMELLS AND THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT KIND OF GO ON OUT THERE WILL BE MANAGED SOME. SO I HAVEN'T GONE DEEP DOWN INTO THE ACTUAL CONTRACT IN TERMS OF HOW IT DOES, HOW THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL HELP OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT I DO HAVE FAITH IN CITY MANAGER AND THROUGH SARAH STANDIFORD AND HER CREW, THAT WE WILL HAVE EYES ON THE PRIZE THAT RELATES TO THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THAT COMMUNITY. ON ITEM 4747, I'M.

I AM MORE THAN EXCITED. COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD 4747, IS ON.

IT'S BEEN PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. THAT'S RIGHT. I JUST SAW THE CONFLICT.

SO FORGIVE ME. I SAW THE CONFLICT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON AND SO I'LL SPEAK ON THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE DISCUSSION OF WHICH MAYOR I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

YEAH. THIS WON'T TAKE LONG. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND AND AND TO THE OFFICER THAT'S SITTING UP HERE, HIS NAME SLIPS MY MIND. BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE HIM A PUBLIC SHOUT OUT IN RECOGNITION, ONE FOR ALL THAT HE DOES IN THE COMMUNITY.

BUT TWO, HE'S ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING THE ELECTRIC BIKES.

ITEM NUMBER 43, BRINGING THE ELECTRIC BIKES TO THERE, TOO.

SO WHILE YOU ALL ARE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING ALL THE BIKES AND THE BIKE PLAN, JUST KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ELECTRIC BIKES. SO STAY IN LINE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SHOUT OUT FOR THAT ONE AND RECOGNIZE THAT THE DVDS ARE BRINGING OFFICERS BRINGING THE BIKE PLAN UP, TOO. SO DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY? YEAH, I PLAN ON DOING. IS THAT APPROPRIATE? IF WE'LL USE YOUR TIME FOR IT.

SURE. YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE QUICK. I'M SORRY.

JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, I'M OFFICER ROBINSON. OH.

I'M SORRY, JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, I'M OFFICER ROBINSON, THE BIKE COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND ACTUALLY, EVERYTHING THAT THESE GUYS JUST MENTIONED RIGHT HERE, I NEED TO GET WITH ALL OF YOU GUYS, INCLUDING YOU GUYS OVER HERE TO THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED, SOMETHING THAT WE WANT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP OUT. NOT JUST THE CITY.

I MEAN, NOT JUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE CITY ALSO, BECAUSE WE TALK A LOT ABOUT COMMUNICATION AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT GETTING OUT THERE WITH THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS THE PERFECT WAY FOR OUR OFFICERS NOT TO SIT IN THEIR CAR AND JUST GO CALL THE CALL, BUT TO ACTUALLY GET OUT THERE AND COMMUNICATE, DO STUFF, AND BE A PART OF SOME OF THE STUFF THAT THE CITY HAS SO WE CAN MAKE THIS WHOLE THIS CITY BETTER ALL AROUND. SO THANK YOU GUYS AND I HOPE TO DO MORE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE IT. WAS THAT ALL, CHAIRMAN GRACEY YOU FINISHED? OKAY. MISS WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU. WELL, I WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO ITEM 26, COMING ON THE HEELS OF THE RECENT VISION ZERO UPDATE.

I'M EXCITED MR. THAT WE'VE GOT THIS ITEM TODAY FOR 12 NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND 13, BUT THEY ARE ON MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THAT ARE USED BY ALL RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, INCLUDING WALNUT HILL, MIDWAY ROAD, ROYAL LANE AND THREE ON GREENVILLE AVENUE, WHICH GO THROUGH VICKERY MEADOW WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ON FOOT AND ON BIKES.

I ALSO WANTED TO CALL OUT THE DIGITAL NAVIGATORS EVALUATION ON ITEM 34.

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AND AT THE VICKERY MEADOW YOUTH DEVELOPMENT FOUNDATION, THAT'S ONE OF OUR LOCATIONS FOR DIGITAL NAVIGATORS, AND TO BE THERE AND SEE IT IN ACTION IS REALLY INCREDIBLE.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT DATA WE'VE ACCUMULATED THIS PAST YEAR AND THROUGH THIS GRANT, BE ABLE TO DESIGN AN EVEN STRONGER PROGRAM. THANK YOU.

CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANTED TO START OFF BY JUST SAYING, THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GREAT STUFF IN THIS CONSENT AGENDA.

AND IT'S I IT'S JUST IMPOSSIBLE TO GO OVER ALL OF IT.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER THE BIG MAJOR HIGHLIGHTS THAT MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED ABOUT NUMBER ITEM NUMBER 11, OF COURSE, SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, WE LOVE YOU GUYS.

AND I KNOW YOU LOVE US BACK. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING SUCH AN AMAZING PARTNER AND FOR EVERYBODY IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD OR ANYBODY WHO'S LISTENING IN.

MR. MAYOR, SOUTHWEST AIRLINES IS OUR LARGEST EMPLOYER HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THE ONLY EMPLOYER THAT IS BIGGER THAN SOUTHWEST IS THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO IF IT WASN'T FOR US, YOU ALL WOULD BE THE BIGGEST.

BUT BESIDES BEING THE CITY, YOU ALL ARE OUR BIGGEST.

SO, SOON TO SHOW YOU ALL SOME LOVE AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU STAY IN DALLAS.

YOU KNOW THIS IS THE PERFECT WAY TO DO IT, BUT ALSO SHOWS THAT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS NOT JUST FOR LOVE FIELD, BUT FOR OUR ENTIRE CITY AND REGION THAT YOU ALL ARE THERE AT THE AIRPORT.

AND I'LL JUST ADD IN, WE GOT TO WORK ON FINISHING OFF THIS RIGHT AMENDMENT IF WE NEED TO.

IF SOMEBODY NEEDS THE RIGHT AMENDMENT LEFT, IT'S THAT NEW AIRPORT THAT'S BEING BUILT NORTH OF OUR CITY.

MR. MAYOR, BEFORE IT'S ALLOWED TO DO WHATEVER IT WANTS TO TAKE PLACE.

AND THEN WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS. WE'RE THE ONLY AIRPORT IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES, MR. MAYOR, THAT HAS RESTRICTIONS ON IT OF WHERE AIRPLANES CAN OR CANNOT FLY.

AND I, I THINK THAT'S JUST NOT ANY GOOD ANYMORE.

BECAUSE DFW IS DOING JUST FINE NOW. LEFT FIELD IS THE SECOND, I MEAN, IS CONSIDERED THE BEST SECOND BEST MEDIUM SIZED AIRPORT IN THE ENTIRE NATION AS WELL, MR. MAYOR. AND ALSO, ITEM 24 WE HAVE THE ADOPTION OF THE UPDATE TO THE DALLAS BIKE PLAN.

THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR ADVOCATES. THIS HAS BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE FOR YOU ALL, AS WELL AS ME AND THE MEMBERS OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, MR. MAYOR. BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A GREAT UPDATE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT IN THE YEARS COMING, JUST LIKE C-CAP AND OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE, MR. MAYOR. JUST WATCH IT GROW AND DEVELOP. BECAUSE IT'S NOT A FINISHED PRODUCT.

IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT. AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD POLICY, MR. MAYOR, IS THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL RELOOK AT THIS EVERY SO MANY YEARS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO UPDATE WITH NEW TECHNOLOGIES OR NEW WHATEVER IT IS THAT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T SEEN YET. SO GOOD JOB EVERYBODY.

IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO HELP LEAD IN THAT ITEM.

AND I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO MY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST, AS WELL AS JAMIE RESENDEZ, MY COLLEAGUES, FOR THEIR ADVOCACY ON THIS PLAN.

WAY BEFORE WE EVEN HAD A BIKE PLAN. JUST TO GET IT STARTED.

BUT THESE UPDATES ARE ARE CRUCIAL IN Y'ALL'S ASSISTANCE.

AND YOUR LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN PARAMOUNT IN US BEING ABLE TO GET THIS, GET GET THIS TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

THANK YOU GUYS. AND ITEM 26 I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE ARE RECEIVING THOSE LIGHTS, THOSE STREET LIGHTS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS MENTIONED.

THERE ARE SOME IN SIX, TEN, 11 AND 13. WE'VE WAITED A LONG TIME FOR THESE TO GET REPLACED.

AND SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE SOME OF THESE GET REPLACED FINALLY FROM THEM NO LONGER BEING ABLE TO BE IN EXISTENCE.

SO THANK YOU, TEXDOT. AND THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR THIS, THESE DOLLARS TO HELP US OUT WITH THIS GOING ON.

AND I WANTED TO CLOSE, MISTER MAYOR WITH THE E-BIKES.

IT'S REALLY KIND OF IT'S KIND OF JUST I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PLANNED OR IF IT WAS JUST WHAT HAPPENED.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYONE FOR THE GRANTS FOR THE EBIKES, AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF, BUT COUNCILWOMAN ELECT LAURA CADENA, BECAUSE SHE GOT THIS STARTED WHEN WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT, AND SHE BROUGHT IN SOME LIKE 20 E-BIKES, AND WE HAD THE POLICE HERE TO ACCEPT THEM.

THERE WERE DONATIONS FROM DISTRICT SIX BUSINESSES.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS SEEN THEM AND THEY SEE OUR OFFICERS RIDING AROUND ON THOSE E-BIKES, THEY HAVE EITHER CALLED OUR OFFICE OR CALLED OR MESSAGED ME OR SOMETHING TO SAY, WE WANT THOSE.

HOW DID YOU GET THOSE? WE WANT THOSE IN MY DISTRICT OR IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO THE THE E-BIKE PROGRAM FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AN EXCELLENT WAY TO NOT JUST SEE THEM LOOKING FOR CRIME OR HELPING

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BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT, LIKE, CARS GO REALLY FAST BIKES.

EBIKES GO PRETTY FAST TOO, BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE EACH OTHER AND THEY CAN STOP AND TALK TO OUR RESIDENTS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN LAKE WEST. AND IT'S REALLY BEEN GREAT WITH THE ENGAGEMENT, JUST HAVING THOSE BIKES INSTEAD. SO THANK YOU.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT PLAN ALSO GROW ROBUST, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY FUTURE COUNCILWOMAN FOR HER LEADERSHIP.

I DID NOT TELL HER OR ASK HER TO WORK ON THAT.

SHE DID THAT ALL ON HER OWN, SO I KNOW SHE'S OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.

I CAN'T SEE HER. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I APPRECIATE IT.

AND LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THIS APPROVED. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. RESENDEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW ITEMS. I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ COMMENTS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD ITEMS ON THIS AGENDA.

FIRST OF ALL, OBVIOUSLY, ITEM 24, I WANT TO THANK STAFF AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN DEVELOPING THE UPDATED BIKE PLAN.

THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP TOWARDS BUILDING A SAFER, MORE CONNECTED CITY, AND I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHTFUL WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO IT.

WHILE I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE DIRECTION WE'RE HEADED. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING SURE THAT THIS PLAN TRANSLATES INTO REAL, MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE GROUND, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY OVERLOOKED.

IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT ADVANCING VISION ZERO AND IMPROVING MOBILITY, WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE INVESTMENTS IN COMMUNITIES THAT NEED THEM THE MOST.

SO WHILE I'M CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS PLAN ABOUT WHAT THIS PLAN COULD ACHIEVE, I'LL BE WATCHING CLOSELY TO SEE HOW WE FOLLOW THROUGH.

AND I'M COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP MAKE THAT VISION A REALITY.

I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM 32, WHICH IS A A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT WILL BE PLACED ON ON LATE JUNE.

AND HILLBURN ANYONE THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH DISTRICT FIVE AND SOUTHEAST DALLAS KNOWS THAT LATE JUNE HAS BEEN A PROBLEMATIC STREET IN TERMS OF SPEEDING VEHICLES.

AND SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS THIS PARTICULAR ITEM TO, TO HELP ADDRESS THAT.

AND THEN FINALLY, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM 34.

I WANT TO THANK BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION FOR THIS GENEROUS GRANT, AND FOR RECOGNIZING THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF DIGITAL INCLUSION IN DALLAS.

THIS INVESTMENT IN DIGITAL NAVIGATORS WILL GO A LONG WAY IN HELPING MORE RESIDENTS GET CONNECTED NOT JUST TO THE INTERNET, BUT TO OPPORTUNITY. FOR MANY IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY SENIORS, LOW INCOME FAMILIES, AND THOSE WITH LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY.

THE DIGITAL DIVIDE REMAINS A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER.

DIGITAL NAVIGATORS SERVE AS TRUSTED GUIDES, HELPING PEOPLE ACCESS ESSENTIAL SERVICES LIKE HEALTH CARE, JOB APPLICATIONS, EDUCATION RESOURCES AND CITY PROGRAMS. THIS EFFORT IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST TECHNOLOGY.

IT'S ABOUT EQUITY, DIGNITY AND ENSURING THAT NO ONE IS LEFT BEHIND IN OUR INCREASINGLY DIGITAL WORLD.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS INITIATIVE MOVE FORWARD, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE POSITIVE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY LACKED ACCESS TO THESE TOOLS AND SUPPORT SYSTEMS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU. AND AS STATED, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS ON THIS AGENDA THAT MAKES FOR THOSE OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, MAKES OUR HEART REALLY BEAT. WE GET REALLY EXCITED.

AND SO I WANT TO JUST COMMENT QUICKLY YES, TO THE BIKE PLAN AND TO THE BIKES.

I WANT TO DEFINITELY THANK MISTER I CALL HIM REVEREND DOCTOR JENKINS IN THE PARK DEPARTMENT.

MISTER HARRISON, BLAIR AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RIDE ON THE WHAT WE CALL THE OLD MANUAL BIKES, AS WELL AS THESE E-BIKES, WHICH KIND OF GAVE US A CHANCE TO CHEAT A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I DO SEE THE VALUE IN OUR TECHNOLOGY, AND IT'S AN IT'S AN OPTION.

SO I WANTED TO JUST THROW THAT OUT SO FOLKS WOULD KNOW THAT I'M STILL ABLE TO HANDLE EVEN EITHER MODE OF TRANSPORTATION, WHETHER IT'S E-BIKES OR JUST THE STANDARD. BUT ON A MORE SERIOUS NOTE, AS WE LOOK THROUGHOUT THIS AGENDA WITH THESE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, I'M LOOKING AT 25 IN PARTICULAR AS WE TALK ABOUT PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS, ROADWAY LIGHTING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS WITH HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS. I'M VERY SURE THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT AND CONTINUE TO DISCUSS VISION ZERO, THAT WE WILL HAVE ADVOCATES, ESPECIALLY IN THAT LEDBETTER CORRIDOR, WHO WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR A SAFE CORRIDOR.

I DID NOTICE, MAYOR, THAT ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS, NATASHA GERALD, IS HERE.

SHE WAS ONE OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ATTENDED THOSE MEETINGS TO ADVOCATE FOR IMPROVEMENTS ALONG LOOP 12, AS IT RELATES TO THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PEDESTRIAN AND THE ROADWAY BECAUSE OF THE STATISTICS.

SO I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DID RECOGNIZE HER FOR THAT.

BUT ENCOURAGE YOU MISSUS GERALD, YOU MIGHT JUST WAVE AT ME THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE.

I KNOW THAT NIGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THE TIME PERIOD.

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THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THAT, MISTER GUS.

YOU REMEMBER THAT? THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT. HOW LONG IT TOOK. THEY WANTED THE SIGNAGE OVERNIGHT.

AND SO WE REALIZED THAT WE COULDN'T GIVE IT OVERNIGHT.

AND SO GOOD THING THAT MRS GERALD IS HERE TODAY SO SHE CAN SEE THE PROCESS IS WORKING.

SO I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU.

AND SO THAT YOU ALL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE IN THAT CORRIDOR BECAUSE IT'S VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY WOKE AND WE STAY ENGAGED.

AND WE CONTINUE TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITIES ON HOW THIS SYSTEM WORKS.

IT DOES TAKE TIME, BUT IT TAKES ALL OF US TO KEEP PUSHING FOR EQUITY THROUGHOUT THIS CITY.

AND TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO SEE THROUGHOUT THE AGENDA THAT YOU SEE WORK AND CONNECTED TO VISION ZERO GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE LISTENING.

AND THANK YOU TO THE AUDIENCE WHO ARE HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY. THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUYS. CONGRATULATIONS, ALL.

OKAY, MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S MOVE ON. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST ITEM.

[12. Approve a resolution to allow for Authorize the submission, negotiation, and execution of a State Infrastructure Bank Loan Agreement of an application to the Texas Department of Transportation for a loan and repayable reimbursement grant in the amount of $90,000,000.00 consisting of a $47,000,000.00 loan; and one reimbursement request in an amount of $43,000,000.00 repayable reimbursement, to fund transit-oriented related costs for the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas Master Plan, and all other required documentation to effectuate the city’s intent to borrow such funds - Not to exceed $47,000,000.00 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City Venue Project Fund; Estimated Revenue: $43,0000,000.00]

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 12? I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

I'VE PULLED A NUMBER OF CONVENTION CENTER ITEMS TODAY, AND MY INTENT IS REALLY JUST TO VOTE AGAINST THEM.

THANK YOU. OKAY, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 12. THANK YOU. GOOD. ROSA. COME FORWARD.

SO, ROSA, COULD YOU CLARIFY THE MEANING OF SOME ESOTERIC TERMINOLOGY HERE? THE REPAYABLE REIMBURSEMENT GRANT. IS THAT SOME SORT OF STATE TERM OF ART? IS THAT JUST A LOAN? YES. SO, ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR FOR CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.

YES. SO HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS IS THAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID OUT ABOUT $43 MILLION FOR THE DEBT CAPS, AND WE CAN ASK FOR THAT TO BE REIMBURSED TO US.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY IT BACK, BUT WE WOULD BE LIKE A FOURTH TIER LIEN AT THE END OF IT.

WHAT THIS ITEM DOES IS ACTUALLY JUST PROVIDE THE REQUIRED RESOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SUBMIT THE APPLICATIONS AND GO FORWARD WITH THAT. I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WILL BE APPROVED OR DENIED.

WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT ITEM BACK TO COUNCIL.

IF WE ARE AWARDED THE FUNDS. WE'D HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK FOR ACCEPTANCE.

AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THESE LOAN FUNDS WOULD BE USED FOR? THE DOCUMENT SUPPORTING THIS ITEM TALKS ABOUT TRANSIT ORIENTED USES, BUT IT'S NOT TRANSIT IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO YOU CAN USE IT FOR THE FLAT WORK AROUND THE BUILDING, THE RETOOLING OF SOME OF THE STREETS AS WE WORK WITH TXDOT AND INTERSTATE 30.

WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS NOW AND IN MEETINGS TO FIGURE OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THEY CAN THEY FINISH FIXING A STREET AND WHERE OUR OBLIGATION ON, SAY, LAMAR OR HOTEL STREET OR ANY OF THOSE BEGINS.

AND SO WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR, FOR THOSE PURPOSES.

SO IT WILL NOT BE USED FOR THE DART LINE OR THE STREETCAR.

NO, IT WILL NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR ITEM 12? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED.

NOTE THE NOTED MR. MAYOR, BUT THE AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 1313. AUTHORIZE A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AGREEMENT WITH BECK AZTECA,

[13. Authorize a Construction Manager at Risk Agreement with Beck Azteca a joint venture, best value proposer of two, for pre-construction and construction services for the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas Master Plan renovation and reconstruction of the Dallas Memorial Auditorium (Arena) - Component Three to provide for (1) pre-construction services for the Project for a fee in the amount not to exceed $519,755.00; (2) construction management services at a rate of three and eighty-five hundredths percent (3.85%) of the cost of work included as part of the total guaranteed maximum price within the total project construction budget of $200 million; and (3) an increase of appropriations in an amount not to exceed $519,755.00 in the Convention Center Construction Fund - Not to exceed $519,755.00 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund]

DALLAS MASTER PLAN RENOVATION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE DALLAS MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM ARENA.

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THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM 13? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

AND NOTED, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT ITEM.

ITEM 15. JUNE 15TH, AUTHORIZED ONE A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER ONE, TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH M ARTHUR GENSLER,

[15. Authorize (1) a Supplemental Agreement No. 1 to the professional services contract with M. Arthur Gensler, Jr. & Associates, Inc. dba Gensler for additional services associated with architectural and engineering design services for the Dallas Memorial Arena Practice Facility at an offsite location; and (2) an increase appropriations in an amount not to exceed $5,501,967.00 in the Convention Center Construction Fund - Not to exceed $5,501,967.00, from $25,137,244.00 to $30,639,211.00 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund]

SECOND. OKAY, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 15. THANK YOU.

ROSE, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YOU'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THROUGH ALL THESE QUESTIONS, SO I KNOW YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS.

WHY WOULD WE BE APPROVING AN ITEM WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A LOCATION THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED YET? SURE. ABSOLUTELY. SO. MUCH LIKE THE MAVERICKS FACILITY OFF OF INTERSTATE 35, THERE'S KIND OF A FORMULAIC LAYOUT TO WHAT A PRACTICE FACILITY LOOKS LIKE. AND SO WE NEED TO GET THAT WORK STARTED INTO COMPLETION OF, OF SD.

SO AS WE NAME THE SITE AND WE BRING THAT ITEM FORWARD TO YOU WHICH NAMES THE SITE, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BE AHEAD OF TIME IN GETTING THE WORK DONE. WHAT WORK WOULD BE STARTED WHEN THE COUNCIL HASN'T APPROVED A LOCATION? SO THE WORK WOULD BE THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDING, THEIR WNBA STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN A BUILDING, AND THEY NEED TO BE LAID OUT IN A CERTAIN CONTIGUOUS FASHION.

AND SO WE WOULD GET THEM STARTED DOWN THE ROAD ON THOSE SO THAT AS WE START TO WORK ON THE SITE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LAY IT OUT. IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THE DEADLINES THAT WERE REQUIRED IN THE CONTRACT IN TERMS OF.

NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. NOT AT THIS TIME. AND WHAT'S THE CHANCE THAT THIS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT ARE NEEDED.

SO THIS THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS ARE BASED ON FORMULAIC SIMILAR WAY THAT WE DO WITH WITH OTHER BUILDINGS OR WNBA FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE LAST MONTH AND THE LAST SIX MONTHS. AND SO WE USE THOSE STANDARDS AS KIND OF THE TOUCH POINT.

THE JOB OF THE DESIGNER AND THE JOB OF THE CMAA IS TO BRING THOSE INTO A BUDGET AMOUNT THAT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND OBVIOUSLY, ANYTHING THAT WE DO BEFORE WE LAY ONE, ONE BRICK DOWN OR TURN A SHOVEL OF DIRT.

WE WOULD BRING THAT TO COUNCIL AND TO CITY LEADERSHIP TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE OKAY WITH THE PRICING OF IT AND WORK WITHIN THAT.

SO YOU'RE RESERVING THESE DOLLARS BASED ON WHAT IT'S COST TO BUILD THIS IN OTHER CITIES.

IT'S LIKE SIZE AND THEY ARE STANDARDS THAT WNBA HAS ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND SO THOSE THAT PRICING IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE FACILITIES THAT ARE MOST RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED.

SO YES. AND THE DOLLARS ARE COMING OUT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER CONSTRUCTION FUND.

CORRECT. BUT IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

I THINK THAT THAT'S NOT THE THIS ITEM DOESN'T COVER THE LOCATION AT THIS POINT.

SO IT'S NOT PART OF THIS ITEM. YOU'RE ASKING US TO ALLOCATE DOLLARS FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER CONSTRUCTION FUND, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE LOCATION, AND WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OFF CAMPUS FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER.

SO WE HAVE AN ITEM COMING ON JUNE 11TH THAT RECOMMENDS THE LOCATION OF OF THE ITEM, AND THAT ONE WILL FOCUS SOLELY ON THAT,

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I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS ITEM DIDN'T COME WITH THE LOCATION OF THE NEW SITE.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO START THE ACTUAL LAYOUT OF IT, AND SO THAT WE'RE NOT LOSING TIME AS WE BEGIN TO SITE THE FACILITY, BUT BE ABLE TO HAVE THE LAYOUT, BE ABLE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE WNBA WITH THE WINGS, AND BE ABLE TO START THE LAYOUT OF THE FACILITY IN A FASHION THAT GETS US TO MEET THE DEADLINES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT.

SO I'LL JUST SAY THIS THAT WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO ALLOCATE DOLLARS.

I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN ALLOCATE MONEY TO A PROJECT WHERE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.

WHEN THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A REASON THAT WE CAN'T JUST WAIT FOR THE.

I BELIEVE IT'S IN TWO MORE WEEKS THAT WE'LL HAVE AN AGENDA MEETING WITH THAT LOCATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND IF YOUR DESIRE IS TO DEFER IT, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. WELL, I'M NOT VOTING TO SPEND THIS HALF $1 MILLION FOR SOMETHING.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON.

THIS THIS SEEMS LIKE AN ABDICATION OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY, AND I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ.

THANK YOU, MISS FLEMING. IF YOU DON'T MIND. JUST STAYING IS WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DELAY THIS VOTE SO THAT WE HAVE A BIGGER A MORE FULL PICTURE OF THIS PROJECT? SURE. IF WE DELAY IT, IT JUST THE DESIGNERS WILL HAVE TO WORK A LITTLE HARDER AND GET ME THEIR SCHEMATICS AND THINGS ON A DIFFERENT TIMELINE.

I'LL HAVE TO CHANGE THE TIMELINE AND HURRY IT UP A BIT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S AS YOU SAID, THERE'S A GENERAL AND I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYONE ELSE'S WORK, SO PLEASE TELL ME IF I'M BEING OVER OVERLY SIMPLISTIC, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IF THERE'S A FORMULAIC APPROACH TO THIS KIND OF FACILITY, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MORE WEEKS IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT THAT.

IT'S NOT A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT CREATING THIS IN AN ARTISTIC WAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT REQUIRES MORE TIME.

SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT, BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

MY OTHER QUESTION TO YOU IS ART, CAN IT BE USED IF SOMETHING IN A WORST CASE SCENARIO, IS THIS FACILITY GOING TO BE DESIGNED SO THAT IT COULD BE USED IN OTHER WAYS BEYOND A WNBA FACILITY? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN WOULD NEED TO BE A BASKETBALL RELATED.

BUT YES, BECAUSE OF THE COURTS THAT WERE BUILT SO IT COULD BE VOLLEYBALL EVEN POTENTIALLY.

RIGHT. SPORTS RELATED. SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK WITH THE RIGGING THAT'S IN THE BUILDING, ETC..

AND ARE THEY DESIGNING IT IN A WAY THAT IT CAN BE A.

I KNOW WE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT WAYS THAT IT COULD BE MONETIZED IN TERMS OF RETAIL AND ATTRACTION TO ONLOOKERS. SO YES. SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE PURPOSE REALLY.

THE WE LOOKED AT PUBLIC BENEFIT, WE LOOKED AT OTHER THINGS, BUT WE'D REALLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONCE WE TALK ABOUT THE SITE.

SO IF YOU'RE IF YOUR PREFERENCE IS TO DEFER IT WE CAN DO THAT.

YEAH. I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT. I MEAN, CERTAINLY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN I'M BEGINNING TO HEAR SOME WHISPERS.

YOU KNOW, AMONG US LIKE THAT MAY BE A MORE PRUDENT APPROACH.

MY FINAL QUESTION TO YOU IS WHEN YOU DO BRING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LAND WILL, ARE YOU ANTICIPATING AN ADDITIONAL COST FOR THE PURCHASE OF LAND, OR WILL THAT BE LAND THAT THE CITY ALREADY OWNS? YES. IT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW. I DON'T HAVE THE ITEM COMPLETELY INTO THE SYSTEM, BUT I'D RATHER COME AGAIN AND TALK ABOUT YOU WITH THE FULL.

YEAH. SO? SO IF I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL WE HAVE THE FULLER PICTURE.

SO ARE YOU SAYING TWO WEEKS? WE'LL HAVE THE WHOLE PICTURE JUNE 11TH.

JUNE 11TH FOR THE JUNE 11TH AGENDA. IS THAT A MADAM? BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE, MADAM CITY MANAGER, I DON'T HAVE THE FULL PICTURE.

AND SO IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU'RE SAYING TO US, I REALLY NEED YOU TO TRUST ME ON THIS ONE.

AND ON JUNE 11TH, WE'LL GET THE WHOLE PICTURE.

OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS DOABLE WITHOUT IT ENDING UP COSTING THE CITY SO MUCH MORE IN THE END BECAUSE WE DELAYED? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS.

AND THANK YOU TO DIRECTOR FLEMING FOR THE RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO ENSURE THAT AS WE EVOLVE INTO THIS PROJECT, THE WE ALREADY HAVE THIS DESIGN FIRM ON BOARD.

SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT PROCURING THE FIRM. THE FIRM IS ALREADY DOING WORK FOR US AT THE ARENA.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT GIVING THEM THE LATITUDE TO BEGIN TO CONCEPT OUT THAT POTENTIAL PRACTICE FACILITY DESIGN.

USING THAT THAT TEAM THAT'S ALREADY ON BOARD AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE STANDARDS FROM THE WNBA AS TO HOW IT NEEDS TO BE PUT TOGETHER.

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THERE'S JUST SOME CONTRACTUAL PIECES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH, WHICH IS WHY THAT'S COMING AFTER THIS ITEM.

I'M NOT OPPOSED. IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO BRING IT TOGETHER IN A PACKAGE, I WOULD RATHER US HAVE A BRIEFING NEXT WEDNESDAY.

AND THEN HAVE YOU BE PREPARED TO VOTE ON IT JUNE THE 11TH? WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO PUSH IT OUT MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.

WE ARE ON A TIMELINE IN ORDER TO DELIVER THIS FACILITY, AS WELL AS THE ARENA, TO MEET OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE WINGS.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DO HAVE SOME CONFINEMENTS WITH THE SCHEDULE THAT WE NEED TO STAY ON TRACK.

PERFECT. SO WE'RE ON A MOTION ON SPEAKING TO DELAY.

SO. SO DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? YEAH. ON DELAY? YES.

IF I CAN SPEAK TO MY MOTION FIRST. THANK YOU.

SO, YES, I DO SUPPORT THIS DELAY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WILL BE A FULL BRIEFING ON THE FULL PACKAGE.

AND I THINK THAT THE REASON THAT I'M SUPPORTING THIS DELAY OR PROPOSED IT IS BECAUSE IT WILL ENABLE US, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC, TO UNDERSTAND THIS HOLISTICALLY RATHER THAN PIECEMEAL, WHICH I THINK WILL BE A MUCH BETTER WAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ASK THE COMMUNITY FOR SUPPORT FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, OVERALL, BOTH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED FOR AS WELL AS THE OVERALL PROJECT.

SO THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST, I THINK.

WERE YOU AHEAD OF ME, CHAIRMAN MORENO? THAT WAS ON THE.

OKAY. I'LL JUST. I'LL CHIME IN ON THE ON THE DELAY THEN.

RIGHT. SO I, I'LL SUPPORT THE DELAY AS WELL. I, CHAIR SCHULTZ HAD ASKED THE QUESTIONS THAT CONCERNED ME IF THIS WAS GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL IN SOME WAY. ONE OF MY CONCERNS ABOUT, I MEAN, WE ALWAYS COMPLAIN THAT THE CITY MOVES TOO SLOW.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AMAZING EXAMPLES WHERE, THANKS TO OUR CITY MANAGER, WE'RE MOVING FAST ONCE AGAIN.

AND ROSA AND YOUR GREAT TEAM AND I, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO IN ORDER TO MEET CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND TO SEIZE AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY AND POTENTIALLY FOR DISTRICT ONE. ONCE YOU GUYS, WE VOTE ON IT ON JUNE 11TH.

ONE OF MY CONCERNS THAT IS HELPED BY THE DELAY IS THAT THE FAMILY WHO DONATED THE PARK THAT THIS MIGHT END UP GOING INTO HAD NOT BEEN ALERTED TO THAT THIS MIGHT BE COMING.

AND WE'VE HAD THIS, THIS LAND FOR 20 YEARS. I UNDERSTAND NOW WHAT WE'RE IN TALKS WITH THEM SO THAT THEY CAN BE A PART OF THIS AS WELL.

AND I'M EXCITED TO TO I THINK THE DELAY WILL HELP MAKE SURE THEY'RE ON BOARD.

AND THEN ULTIMATELY, THE JUST THE TRANSPARENCY ISSUE THAT MISS SCHULTZ JUST BROUGHT UP, I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE ONE PACKAGE THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC AND NOT JUST THIS MYSTERIOUS FUNDING ALLOCATION THAT'S OUT THERE, BUT I DON'T WANT ANY OF THAT TO DIMINISH MY EXCITEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS AND ALSO BE GAME CHANGING FOR THIS AREA IF IT ENDS UP GOING THERE.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ROSA, WE JUST SAW WITH THE PREVIOUS ITEM 13, THAT THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET FOR THIS FACILITY, FOR THE RENOVATIONS OF THE MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM IS $200 MILLION.

THIS ITEM IS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 5 MILLION, ON TOP OF 25 MILLION JUST FOR A PRACTICE FACILITY.

CAN YOU TELL US WHY WE NEED WHY THEY NEED A PRACTICE FACILITY, WHY THEY CAN'T USE THE MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM TO PRACTICE AS WELL AS PLAY GAMES? SORRY. EXCUSE ME. THE PRACTICE FACILITY HAS SOME OF THE MEDICAL FACILITIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD HELP THE TEAM AS THEY PUSH FORWARD. SO I THINK AN UNDERSTANDING OF MAYBE HOW THE FACILITY WORKS AND OTHER WNBA IS SOMETHING I'LL BRING YOU IN THE BRIEFING, BUT IT HAS FACILITIES AND WORKOUT FACILITIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO PREPARING A PLAYER TO ACTUALLY PLAY.

AND IF YOU RECALL, ON THE ARENA SIDE, THE IN THE AGREEMENT, THE WINGS ARE GOING TO BE USING THE ARENA FOR ABOUT 70 DAYS.

RIGHT. WE'LL BE USING THE FACILITY FOR OTHER THINGS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH MONICA PAUL AT THE SPORTS COMMISSION TO SELL IT FOR OTHER SPORTS.

EVENT WILL CONTINUE TO USE IT FOR CHEER, WILL CONTINUE TO USE IT FOR VOLLEYBALL, ETC..

IN AN EFFORT TO MOVE IT WELL BEYOND THE 12 DAYS THAT IT'S USED NOW.

SO THAT IS REVENUE GENERATING FOR THE CITY. AND SO WITH THAT USING IT FOR BOTH IS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN THERE TO DO ALL OF THAT.

SO WILL THE ARENA NOT CONTAIN WORKOUT FACILITIES? THE ARENA WILL NOT CONTAIN WORKOUT FACILITIES.

IT WILL HAVE IS THERE JUST NO ROOM FOR THEM OR THERE'S NO ROOM FOR IT?

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CHAIRMAN MORENO. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE MOTION TO DEFER THIS ITEM.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE TODAY WITHOUT DISCLOSING THE LOCATIONS.

JUST BECAUSE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE WITH THE ANTICIPATED SITE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE DEFERRAL. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I'M. I'M GOING TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.

IS AREN'T WE ALREADY BEHIND ON THIS PROJECT? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WE VOTED TO APPROVE FOR THIS TO GET GOING.

ABOUT 4 OR 5, MAYBE SIX MONTHS AGO. SO WE'RE NOT BEHIND, BUT WE'RE ON SCHEDULE.

WE'RE ON A VERY TIGHT SCHEDULE. AND SO I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I MEAN IS, HAD WE STARTED THREE MONTHS AGO, WE'D HAVE WAY MORE CUSHION DEFERRING THIS TWO WEEKS OR TO THE 11TH.

I MEAN, IS I MEAN, ISN'T THERE JUST, LIKE, A MICROCOSM OF CUSHION RIGHT NOW IF WE DON'T, IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY? SO THE CUSHION IS SHRINKING. YES. AND SO WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY TWO WEEKS GIVES A DESIGNER A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO START THE BASE PROGRAM RIGHT, AND BE ABLE TO BRING US CLOSER TO SCHEMATICS.

THE DESIGNER WILL JUST HAVE TO WORK HARDER. YEAH, I GET THAT.

AND AND, MADAM CITY MANAGER, DO YOU THINK THAT.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE I MEAN, I'M, I'M I'M THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE A DEFERRAL THEN GIVES SOME FOLKS SOME CLARITY, I GUESS THE FOLKS THAT WERE ON THAT ARE ON THE SPORTS ARENA COMMITTEE.

SPORTS RECRUITMENT COMMITTEE. LIKE I AM AD HOC COMMITTEE.

HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. THEY WERE NOT ASKED, BUT YOU KNOW, BUT NOT EVERYBODY GETS IS IN THAT MEETING.

RIGHT. SO NOT EVERYBODY'S APPOINTED TO BE IN THAT MEETING.

ANYBODY COULD HAVE ATTENDED. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALSO IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT WAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROJECT X. SO PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO OVERSPEND.

AND I GET THAT PART. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK WITH THIS TWO WEEK DELAY, THAT IT COULD ACTUALLY COST US MORE, BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THE THE DESIGNERS ARE LIKE, WE'RE AT CRUNCH.

LIKE WE NEED MORE TIME AND WE DON'T HAVE IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO INTO OVERTIME, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT IT COULD ACTUALLY COST US MORE.

IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? I'M JUST TORN ON THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE CLARITY THEY NEED.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DON'T WANT TO OVER US TO DELAY AND HOLD TOO LONG.

BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL AS IF WE HAVE ARE RUSHING THIS ONE.

AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, I REALLY DO THINK THAT IT'S BEEN A BIT SLOWER THAN WE EXPECTED JUST BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, FINDING A LOCATION. THE LOCATION IS, YOU KNOW, WE THINK IS FOUND, BUT IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IT'S NOT THE LOCATION, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE KNOW THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? SO GETTING THESE DESIGNS GOING AGAIN, WHICH WAS MENTIONED IN NO SECRET.

I'M A WNBA FAN, SO. BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

BUT MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE APPROVED FACILITIES, SO THIS CITY, THIS FACILITY IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY LIKE THING, WAY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF THOSE. SO WHAT'S I GUESS I'M TRYING TO ASK.

SURE. WHAT COULD IT COST US IN THE EVENT OF A DELAY? THANK YOU FOR THE THE QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND WITHOUT GIVING DETAILS AROUND A DELAY, I THINK WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE, THE, THE MARKET IS VOLATILE AND WE'VE SEEN THAT ON MANY OTHER PROJECTS, NOT JUST ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER HERE WITH THIS PRACTICE FACILITY.

AND SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING TRANSPARENT AND THAT WE'RE GIVING COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL THE INFORMATION, WE'RE ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS SO YOU CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. MY POINT ABOUT JUNE THE 4TH WAS WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS AT THE AD HOC SPORTS COMMITTEE. I KNOW THAT IT WAS IN A CLOSED SESSION ENVIRONMENT, SO I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR US NOT THEN MAKING OUR WAY AROUND TO TALK TO EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER. WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AFTER WE'VE BRIEFED THOSE COMMITTEE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE NOT ON THE COMMITTEE.

WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE.

SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

I WOULD ASK IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS ABOUT THIS ITEM IN PARTICULAR BETWEEN NOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THE BRIEFING TOGETHER.

IT'S NOT CURRENTLY PREPARED FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY, BUT WE WILL WORK OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS TO DO THAT.

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SO I JUST CAN'T GIVE YOU DETAILS AROUND WHAT THE EXACT COST WILL BE BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE THE 11TH, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW. THE MARKET IS CHANGING. WE HAVE NO IDEA IF THERE COULD BE A CHANGE.

IT COULD BE OR IT COULD NOT BE. THAT'S THE BEST ANSWER THAT I CAN GIVE YOU.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I GUESS I WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET TO WAS WHEN I TALKED ABOUT US BEING BEHIND WAS I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WHAT THIS WILL COST. AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF THE TARIFFS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION THAT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE WHITE HOUSE IS OVER, THAT THEY ARE ANNOUNCING TARIFFS LEFT AND RIGHT.

AND THAT THAT REALLY MAKES THIS MARKET VOLATILE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN A IN A WEEK OR TWO.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PRICE OF STEEL IS DOUBLE.

WOULD THAT INCUR COSTS ON THE DESIGN AND COSTS ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SURE. AS AS OUR CITY MANAGER SAID, ANY ANY VOLATILITY IN THE MARKET COULD AFFECT THE COST OF EITHER DIRECTION, RIGHT. AND SO WE WE CONSTANTLY MONITOR THAT. YEAH.

AND SEE THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS HARD IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT EVERY TIME ANYTHING CHANGES YOU ALL HAVE TO GO AND REWRITE EVERYTHING.

AND THEN IT'S ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S LIKE, NOPE, WE'RE BACK TO, YOU KNOW, THREE DAYS LATER OR A WEEK LATER, IT'S LIKE, OH, CHANGE MY MIND.

I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT ANYMORE. AND THEN THAT MAKES YOU ALL SCRAMBLE.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO CAUSE YOU ALL TO SCRAMBLE FOR TWO DAYS TO GET THIS BRIEFING PREPARED.

AND WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO PUT ON PAUSE IN ORDER FOR YOU ALL TO WORK FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS ON THIS ITEM? SO THIS IS THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN, AND WE ARE ACCUSTOMED TO PIVOTING.

AND OUR COMMITMENT TO THIS PROJECT REQUIRES THAT.

AND SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE WILL WORK AGAIN.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE TAKEN ON THAT, PUTTING TOGETHER THE BRIEFING TO PLEASE SHARE WITH US ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE ITEM. SO A LOT OF WHAT WE DO NEXT WEEK IS ACTUALLY ANSWERING THOSE ITEMS AS PART OF OUR PRESENTATION.

BUT AGAIN, THE GOAL WAS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUED WITH THE PROJECT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR TRANSPARENCY.

WE NEVER WANT TO COME SHORT ON THAT WITH THE PUBLIC, AND WE WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING YOU MORE DETAILS FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY, IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THIS COUNCIL TO DELAY THE ITEM.

VERY GOOD. THAT'S MY COMMITMENT. THANK YOU. AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE BEING OVERLY KIND, IN YOUR WORDS, ABOUT THE PIVOTING OF THIS BODY.

I'M GOING TO BE IN OPPOSITION JUST BECAUSE I DON'T.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE VOLATILITY. I ALSO THINK THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, COULD HAVE EASILY HAD A BRIEFING ON THEIR OWN IF THEY NEEDED IT, AND HAD SO MANY CONCERNS THAT THERE ALL OF A SUDDEN BRINGING UP TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS, THANK YOU.

SO I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THIS BECAUSE KEEPING ANY CUSHION WE CAN, I THINK IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE ARE YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE MAY REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT THIS MOMENT AND WEIGH IT BECAUSE WE MAY NEED THIS LATER.

SO I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS, BUT YOU ARE REFERENCING WB, NBA SPECS.

AND ARE THERE ASPECTS OF THIS DESIGN THAT CAN MOVE FORWARD THAT ARE NOT CONTINGENT OR LOCATION SPECIFIC? IS THAT WHAT YOU HAD SAID? YES. MOST OF THOSE ARE NOT SITE SPECIFIC.

THEY'RE THEY'RE FORMULAIC TO THE BUILDING IN TERMS OF WHAT THE NBA, WNBA REQUIRES FOR PLAYERS IN A PRACTICE FACILITY.

SO IN EFFECT, WE ARE GIVING THE DESIGNER A JUMP ON SORTING THROUGH THOSE SPECS AND WHAT WE CAN DO THAT DO NOT RELY ON THIS PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WE ARE WAITING ON. SO I FEEL LIKE WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE THIS IS MEASURED JUDGMENT THAT SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE.

AND THAT I WOULD ASSUME THAT IN TWO WEEKS, A DESIGNER WOULD NOT BE SO FAR ALONG THAT IF WE FOUND SOMETHING MONUMENTAL, IT COULDN'T BE CHANGED, BUT RATHER THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE EQUATION NO MATTER WHAT THE LOCATION IS.

ABSOLUTELY. AND JUST AS WE DID WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER, WE BRING THOSE THINGS FORWARD TO CITY LEADERSHIP AND TO THIS BODY BEFORE WE MOVE SO FAR INTO DESIGN THAT WE CAN'T TURN AROUND. SO I'M WEIGHING THE TWO THE TWO OPTIONS HERE OF, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS AND HAVE THE BRIEFING AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, LETTING A DESIGN TEAM GET GOING ON SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NOT GOING TO MOVE US SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT BUFFER THAT WE MAY NEED AND WANT IN THE

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CHAIRMAN GRACEY. THANK YOU. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.

ONE, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, TOO, THE COST OF THIS.

THERE'S THERE'S 25 MILLION. WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL FIVE BEING ADDED FOR? HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT PART. SURE. SO THE ORIGINAL COST WERE FOR THE ARENA.

AND SO IN THEIR PROPOSAL, PEOPLE PROPOSED FOR FIRMS PROPOSED FOR THE SECONDARY FACILITY AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE ORIGINAL ITEM.

SO WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK AS A SUPPLEMENT. IT ALLOWED US THE TIME TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WINGS, TO HAVE SOME OF OUR EARLY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WNBA, TO LOOK FOR A SITE AND TO BRING IT CLOSER INTO ALIGNMENT WITH SQUARE FOOTAGES, ETC.. SO THERE WERE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT WE DID NOT ORIGINALLY HAVE THAT WE USED THIS TIME TO ACTUALLY GATHER FROM THE WNBA AND FROM THE WINGS SO THAT WE COULD UNDERSTAND IT. WE ALSO NEEDED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER PRACTICE FACILITIES, MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALIGNING. WE WEREN'T ADDING THINGS THAT WERE OUT OF SPEC WITH THINGS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED AROUND, AROUND THE COUNTRY AT THESE OTHER WNBA FACILITIES.

AND SO WE USE THAT TIME FOR THAT AND THEN BROUGHT THIS ITEM FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO NOW ADD THE PRACTICE FACILITY.

OKAY. AND DEFERRING THIS, YOU SAID IT COULD POTENTIALLY PUT US INTO INTO A A TIME CRUNCH.

BUT AS OF NOW DELAYING THIS WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HURT ANYTHING WITH WHETHER THIS, THIS, THESE PLANS OR THE OVERALL DESIGN AND BUILD AND ALL OF THAT. SURE.

IF YOU IF YOU ASK MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE IN A WAY TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE PROJECT, I WOULD LOVE THE TWO WEEK BUFFER TO BE ABLE TO BRING YOU BACK, NOT JUST A PRETTY PICTURE OF AN OUTSIDE OF A BUILDING, BUT SOME ACTUAL WORK AND DRAWINGS THAT CAN ALIGN WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THAT ADDRESS SO YOU CAN REALLY MORE UNDERSTAND IT. I KNOW THAT TWO WEEKS WOULD GIVE US THAT WITHOUT IT, I'M GOING TO COME BACK WITH A PRETTY PICTURE AND A SITE.

SO AND NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS WE WOULD LIKE TO MEET THOSE DEADLINES.

SO IT WOULD CRUNCH OUR BUFFER TIME. OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. IT'S RARE THAT I KIND OF FLIP MY POSITION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT SOMETIMES INFORMATION COMES OUT THAT THAT MAKES ME DO THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS'S QUESTIONS AND CHAIR NARVAEZ QUESTIONS ON THE ON THE TIMELINE.

AND IT APPEARS THIS FUNDING NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS, THIS FUNDING WILL BE USED FOR WHEREVER THE PARK ENDS UP FOR THE DESIGN WORK.

SO OR THE OR THE THE FACILITY ENDS UP FOR THE DESIGN WORK, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

IT'S GOING TO HELP YOU CREATE BETTER GRAPHICS, BETTER IMAGERY FOR US.

IT GIVES YOU A JUMP START. IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE.

AND TO ME THAT SATISFIES THAT SATISFIES MY CONCERNS.

YOU KNOW, MY OTHER CONCERN WAS THE FAMILY THAT HAD DONATED THE LAND. IT MAY NOT EVEN GO THERE, SO IT MAY NOT. YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TODAY AND THEN GET THE FULL PICTURE WITH EVEN MORE INFORMATION IN A COUPLE WEEKS.

SO I'M GOING TO NOT SUPPORT THE DEFERRAL. CHAIRMAN.

REALLY? SO, ROSA, WHAT IS THIS $5.5 MILLION INCREASE IN APPROPRIATIONS FOR? IS THIS FOR CONSTRUCTION COSTS OR FOR DESIGN COSTS? THESE ARE DESIGN COSTS. SO THIS IS A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT.

WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AGREEMENT? SURE. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. LET ME LOOK FOR THE ITEM.

I DID NOT BRING THE ITEM WITH ME. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

I BELIEVE IT WAS 25. LET ME GO BACK TO THE ITEM.

SO IT WAS 25. 137, 244. SO IT WILL TAKE US TO 36 3921.

JUST FOR THE DESIGN CONTRACT. JUST FOR THE DESIGN.

30 MILLION TO DESIGN IT. WHAT'S THE. WELL, NO, 30 MILLION IS THE TOTAL FOR THE ARENA AND THE PRACTICE FACILITY.

SO THAT'S ASSUMING YOU APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT.

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AND THAT WAS FOR THE ARENA, THAT THE DESIGN COST FOR THE ARENA, FOR THE PLAZA OUTSIDE THE ARENA FOR THE COMPLICATIONS OF SEPARATING IT AS WE TOOK DOWN THE AS WE TOOK DOWN THE REST OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH IS RIGHT NOW CONNECTED TO THE ARENA AND REQUIRES SOME DESIGN WORK ON THE OUTSIDE, BECAUSE IN THE CONNECTING OF THE ARENA, WE TOOK DOWN SOME OF THE CIRCULAR COMPONENTS OF THE BUILDING.

SO ALL OF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT FIRST AGENDA ITEM, THIS SECOND A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT IS FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY ONLY. WHAT IS THE ANTICIPATED CONSTRUCTION COST FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY? SO FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD GO OUTSIDE OF IT, FLAT WORK, ETC.. WE HAVE AN INVESTMENT LEVEL BECAUSE WE DO NOT YET HAVE A CMR DESIGN BUILDER TO FINISH THE COST FOR US, RIGHT. SO OUR ESTIMATES BASED ON LIKE SIZED FACILITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUILT WITHIN THE LAST MONTH TO SIX MONTHS, IS ABOUT BETWEEN 48 AND 54. MILLION. MILLION.

CORRECT. AND WE'RE GOING TO PAY GENSLER 5.5 MILLION TO DESIGN A 48 TO 50 SOME MILLION DOLLAR FACILITY. 10%. SO WE'RE GOING TO PAY THEM UP TO NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF THAT.

SO AS WE START TO PULL BACK. YES. SO. WELL, I STILL THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNCIL SEE THE WHOLE PACKAGE TO SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO, WHAT THE ARRANGEMENTS ARE FOR THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, AND WHAT KIND OF A FACILITY IS GOING TO BE BUILT THERE.

ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS HOW CAN WE SPEND CONVENTION CENTER FUNDS FOR A FACILITY THAT'S NOT AT THE CONVENTION CENTER? SO BECAUSE WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE FUNDS ARE ALLOWABLE FOR USE FOR ARENAS, FOR FACILITIES THAT FACILITATE THAT FACILITATE SPORTS, ETC.. SO OUR FUNDS ARE ALLOWABLE FOR THAT.

THAT'S WHY AMERICAN AIRLINES IS IN OUR PORTFOLIO, FOR EXAMPLE, AND SOME OTHER FACILITIES.

SO IT'S NOT LIMITED TO A CONVENTION CENTER. WE PAY FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF THE REPAIR COSTS ON UNION STATION.

SO THE THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWABLE WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE USES OF POT OF ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE AND OF OUR EVENT RENTAL THAT WE FROM WHICH WE EARN OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

WELL, I HAVE CONCERNS THAT WHEN WE WENT TO THE VOTERS 2022 TO APPROVE FINANCING FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER, THAT WE DIDN'T DISCLOSE TO THEM THAT SOME OF THAT MONEY WOULD NOT BE SPENT ON THE CONVENTION CENTER, BUT WOULD BE SPENT ON OFF SITE FACILITIES. WE'RE NOT USING PRIMER FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO BREMER WAS WHAT WE TOOK TO THE VOTERS. AND WE'RE NOT USING PFC FUNDS.

WE'RE USING CONVENTION CENTER CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUNDS, WHICH ARE FROM LOCAL HOT, FROM ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE, AND FROM THE EXCESS OF OUR EVENT REVENUE REVENUES THAT WE GENERATE.

OKAY. WELL, I'M STILL IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION.

I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S ANY COST TO DEFERRING THIS DECISION FOR TWO WEEKS.

VERY LITTLE DESIGN, IF ANY, IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

AND I THINK THE COUNCIL DESERVES TO GET A FULL BRIEFING ON WHAT THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT FOR AND WHERE.

CITY MANAGER. I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK FOR JUST A SECOND, BECAUSE I FAILED TO MENTION THIS, JUST TO ENSURE THAT I'VE COVERED MY TEAM. WE ACTUALLY HAD AN ITEM PLANNED FOR THIS AGENDA TO BRING THE ACTUAL PRACTICE FACILITY SITE. WHAT I DID NOT MENTION IN MY COMMENTS EARLIER IS THAT THE REASON WHY THAT ITEM DID NOT STAY ON THIS AGENDA IS THAT IT WAS THE TIMING OF THE PARK BOARD MEETING, WHICH JUST HAPPENED ON YESTERDAY. SO WHAT WE AGREED TO DO WAS TO GO AHEAD AND BRING THIS ONE FORWARD, LET THE PARK BOARD MEET TO DISCUSS THE LOCATION, AND THEN BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL AFTER THE FACT.

SO FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU DON'T SEE BOTH OF THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IT WAS NEVER OUR INTENT TO GIVE COUNSEL ONLY THIS PIECE OF THE ITEM, BUT WE DID HAVE BOTH OF THEM PREVIOUSLY PLANNED.

SO DUE TO THE TIMING OF THE PARK BOARD MEETING, WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD HOLD BACK ON THAT SECOND PIECE,

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SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT, AND I FAILED TO DO THAT EARLIER.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MY QUESTION REVOLVED AROUND WHAT THE CITY MANAGER JUST RECENTLY, JUST NOW ALLUDED TO.

I JUST HAD SOME INFORMATION THAT THE PARK BOARD HAD A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS.

SO CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE TO ME WHAT THEY WERE BRIEFLY, WHY THEY WERE BRIEFED SO QUICKLY AND OUT OF THE ORDINARY? AND THEN IF, IN FACT, THE PARK BOARD NEEDED THAT BRIEFING, IT SEEMS TO ME WE WE TOO WOULD NEED THAT BRIEFING BEFORE WE VOTE.

OKAY. SO IT WAS A CLOSE. IT WAS A CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSION.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GO INTO THAT.

SO BEFORE THAT ITEM ON THE 11TH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD PLANNED TO DO IS THAT WE WOULD ALSO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR ABOUT THE PIECES OF THE ACTUAL FACILITY, THE SITE, AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE VOTE ON THE 11TH.

BUT THE ITEM YESTERDAY WAS NOT A PUBLIC CONVERSATION.

YES. MAY I ANSWER THAT IN PART? SO THEY RECEIVED NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN WAS PROVIDED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO OUR COMMITTEE HERE AT COUNCIL. SO THEY RECEIVED NOTHING, NOTHING DIFFERENT FROM FROM THAT TO WHAT COMMITTEE? TO THE SPORTS AD HOC COMMITTEE TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON PROFESSIONAL SPORTS AND RETENTION.

OKAY. AND IT COULD ALSO HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE AS WELL.

CORRECT. I'D HAVE TO ASK. I BELIEVE JOHN JENKINS IS HERE.

WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING.

WHAT'S THE QUESTION? IS, COULD IT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE.

CAN YOU SPEAK? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE MIC, PLEASE? OH, YEAH.

ALSO, JOHN JENKINS, PARKS DIRECTOR. WHAT'S THE QUESTION? COULD IT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE TT COMMITTEE? COULD IT. COULD IT BE BROUGHT? I BELIEVE WE MEET THIS NEXT THIS COMING MONDAY.

THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION, BUT THE. BUT BECAUSE THIS INVOLVED A PROPERTY OF.

THIS POTENTIAL PROPERTY IS A PARK PROPERTY. AND SO WE DEFINITELY NEEDED TO BRIEF THE BOARD RIGHT AWAY, BECAUSE THAT DEFINITELY FALLS WITHIN THEIR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY SINCE IT'S INVOLVING A A PA PROPERTY IS DEEDED TO THE PARK DEPARTMENT. YES, SIR. YES, IT COULD ALWAYS.

IT COULD. YEAH. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE PARK BOARD.

I JUST THINK MANY OF THE BRIEFINGS THAT THE PARK BOARD GETS, IT'S ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL TO ALSO BRING IT TO TT SO THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE AND HAVE SIMILAR INFORMATION. I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN.

IT LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD SPOKE. I HAVE SPOKEN. THIS IS MY SECOND ROUND.

ARE NOT ON THE MOTION. THIS ON A DELAY? GOT IT.

THANK YOU. SO, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A RECORD VOTE.

SECOND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT COMMITTEE IT WOULD GO TO.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S NOT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BRIEFING FOR US.

WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT TODAY, JUST AS PARK CITY YESTERDAY.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS READY TO GO. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF MONEY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY. IF SHE'S PREPARED TO SAY, EXCUSE ME, IF SHE'S PREPARED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER CONSTRUCTION FUND CAN BE USED FOR ANY PART OF THE CITY, OR IF THAT NEEDS TO BE RESEARCHED.

YES. I'D HAVE TO CONSULT MY TEAM ABOUT THE PARAMETERS OF THE USE OF THE HOT TAXES.

THANK YOU. I THINK JUST EVEN THE NAME OF THE ACTUAL FUND WOULD INDICATE THAT IT'D BE WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC TO USE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, MEANING YOU KNOW THE LOCATION WHICH EARLIER THIS MORNING, ROSA, YOU INDICATED YOU WOULD LIKE TO KEEP PRIVATE.

BY THE WAY, WFAA REPORTED IT LAST NIGHT, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL THIS MORNING AFTER WE SPOKE.

AND APPARENTLY IT'S ON LEGISTAR. SO THERE'S NO SECRET ABOUT IT ANYMORE.

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SO I THINK THIS IS WORTHY OF WHETHER IT'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION BRIEFING OR IT'S A PUBLIC BRIEFING.

AGAIN, WITH THE ADDRESS ALREADY OUT, IT'S PROBABLY A PUBLIC BRIEFING.

BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN SPEND THIS KIND OF MONEY WITHOUT HAVING ALL OF THE FACTS.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, WE'RE ON THE MOTION TO DELAY.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. YES, YES, THREE MINUTES, MR. LEE. THANK YOU. FIVE, THREE. THIS IS MY SECOND TIME ON DELAY FIVE.

I'M JUST GOING TO CLARIFY WHICH MOTION YOU'VE SPOKEN ON ALREADY.

I'VE SPOKEN ON THE DELAY ONCE. AND SO I WANT TO GO FOR MY SECOND ROUND.

THREE MINUTES. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO MY QUESTIONS CITY MANAGER IS OR ROSA, WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER IT, WHICHEVER ONE. WHAT IS OUR DEADLINE FOR THE DALLAS WINGS TO MOVE INTO THEIR PRACTICE FACILITY? APRIL TO MAY 2026. SO BY APRIL 1ST, 2026, THE DALLAS WINGS BY CONTRACT THAT WE THAT WE AGREED TO WHEN WE APPROVED FOR THE DALLAS WINGS TO MOVE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

APRIL 1ST, 2026. THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE KEYS TO THE DOOR IN ORDER TO WALK INTO THEIR PRACTICE FACILITY.

REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED OR WHERE WE'RE IN.

THIS MIGHT BE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER IS, THEN WE WOULD BE IN BREACH OF OUR CONTRACT IF WE DON'T GET THIS DONE BY THEN.

THE ANSWER IS YES. I'M SURE THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE US NOTICE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO CURE.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO THAT'S A BIG ISSUE IS THIS IS CRUNCH TIME NOW, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

AND I KNOW THAT THE DALLAS WINGS AGREED TO GIVE US TIME.

EXTRA TIME WAS BECAUSE WE WERE WE WERE ADVOCATING TO GET THE IBC AT THE TIME WHEN WE DID THIS THE INTERNATIONAL BROADCAST CENTER FROM FIFA AND THE DALLAS WINGS WERE VERY GENEROUS IN SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WILL LET YOU ALL CITY OF DALLAS, TAKE YOUR EXTRA TIME BECAUSE WE ALSO SUPPORT IMPORT THE IBC COMING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT'S A WIN WIN FOR THE WINGS AND FOR THE CITY.

AND NOW HERE WE ARE. AND WE HAVE. I KNOW THAT THERE'S QUESTIONS, BUT THIS DELAY THAT WANTS TO SOME PEOPLE NEED WHICH I UNDERSTAND AND I WANT THEM TO HAVE ALL THE TIME THEY NEED. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE COULD BE IN REALLY, REALLY BIG MESS IF THIS FACILITY DOESN'T GET THERE.

CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU GO OVER WHAT THE DELAY ACTUALLY CAUSES? YOU AND YOUR TEAM AS WELL AS WHAT WE WHAT WE APPROVED AND DIRECTED YOU TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS ALL HAPPEN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. I THINK AS WE COMMUNICATED EARLIER IT WAS NEVER OUR INTENT TO NOT SHARE THE DETAILS ABOUT THE PRACTICE FACILITY.

FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, IT'S BACK TO SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LIMITED INFORMATION, INCLUDING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY ACADEMY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS AT DALLAS.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AGGRESSIVELY, TRYING TO KEEP OUR SCHEDULE.

WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS. AND AS I SHARED EARLIER WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF THE SPORTS AD HOC COMMITTEE.

I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TEAM NOT MAKING THEIR ROUNDS TO EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S NOT ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED.

OUR PLAN WAS TO GIVE THE PARK BOARD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS, AND WE WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE SECOND STEP OF THIS, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL SITE, ON JUNE THE 11TH. SO AS IT RELATES TO THE THE OVERALL DELAY, I THINK YOU'VE STATED THE COMMITMENTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITH THE WINGS. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT BECAUSE WE HAD OTHER THINGS GOING ON, INCLUDING THE WORK AROUND FIFA, THE IBC. AND SO JUST THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO OPERATE IN GOOD FAITH.

WE ALWAYS TALK TO ALL OF OUR CONTRACTORS THAT SUBJECT TO COUNCIL APPROVAL, AND WE HAVE DATES, AND WE'RE WORKING ON A SCHEDULE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO REACH THOSE MILESTONES. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY. IT'S REALLY HELPING US CONTINUE WITH THE COMMITMENT ENSURING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DELIVER THIS PRACTICE FACILITY BY THAT TIME FRAME, WHICH IS, I THINK, APRIL OF 2026. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IF WE'RE ALREADY IN THE MONTH OF MAY, WE WOULD BE WITHIN A YEAR, LESS THAN A YEAR OF BEING ABLE TO GET THE DESIGN COMPLETED, GET THE FACILITY ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED,

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ANYBODY THINKS THAT YOU CAN JUST BUILD A BUILDING IN THIS, THIS TIME CRUNCH OF A LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR AND THINK TWO WEEKS ISN'T A BIG DEAL.

I MEAN, I'VE SAT HERE, MR. MAYOR, FOR ALMOST EIGHT YEARS.

IN THREE WEEKS, IT'LL BE EIGHT YEARS COMPLETED AND I'VE NEVER SEEN.

IT'S VERY RARE TO BE ABLE TO GO AT THIS KIND OF A SPEED.

SO I'M SERIOUSLY NERVOUS ABOUT THIS. AND SO IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES THINK THAT, OH, TWO WEEKS IS NOT A BIG DEAL, IT'S A BIG DEAL BECAUSE OF THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THOSE TWO WEEKS IS COULD COULD DELAY EVERYTHING AND MAKE THIS TO BE WHERE WE'RE NOT READY. AND THE DALLAS WINGS HAVE TO BE READY AND PRACTICING BY APRIL 1ST, 2026, IN THEIR NEW FACILITY. OR, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE TEAM NOT KNOWING THAT THEY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO GET DONE.

SO I GET THE REASON FOR THE DELAY AND ASKING FOR IT, MR. MAYOR. BUT I AM STILL GOING TO STAY OPPOSED TO IT.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE'RE ON THE MOTION TO DELAY.

AND SO I'M CHECKING ON I'M USING THE HONOR SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE TO TELL ME WHAT ROUND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON.

SO MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU WERE IN THE CHAIR, SO I ASSUME YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN ON THE MOTION TO DELAY? THAT IS CORRECT. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

I GUESS ROSA THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO HAVE THE CONTRACT WITH THE DALLAS WING.

THE CITY WITH THE COMMISSIONING EVENT SERVICE DEPARTMENT AS THE DEPARTMENT MANAGING THAT CONTRACT.

SO THE CITY. SO THE PARK DEPARTMENT DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTRACT WITH THE DALLAS WING, IS THAT CORRECT? THE PARK DEPARTMENT? NO, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT.

SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A CONTRACT THAT DEAL WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THEREFORE, IS OUR OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CONTRACT IS FULFILLED ON A CERTAIN DATE.

CORRECT? CORRECT. AND WHAT IS THAT DATE? APRIL OR MAY 2026.

AND SO APRIL. MAY OF 2026. IF WE DON'T MEET THAT CONTRACT, DEREK HAVE A RIGHT TO CURE.

BUT HE STILL GOT AN ISSUE THERE. SO MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IN THE DELAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO WEEKS AND AND AND NO DISRESPECT TO NO COUNCIL MEMBER HERE. THERE'S MANY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE CITY AROUND THE COUNTRY.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO DESIGN. WE'RE TRYING TO GET ARCHITECTS. WE'RE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING DONE PROPERLY ON A TIMELINE THAT WE HAD A TWO WEEK DELAY.

IT COULD CAUSE A WHOLE LOT OF ISSUES AND A RUSH ISSUE THERE.

SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT NOT MUCH OF A DELAY.

WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT $5 MILLION. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. THE $5 MILLION.

I MIGHT BE OUTSPOKEN, BUT I'M HEARING THE $5 MILLION IS A BIG REASON WHY WE WANT TO DELAY.

I MY ASSUMPTION IS YES. OKAY. SO THE REASON IS THE $5 MILLION.

SO THEREFORE IT FEELS LIKE THE COUNCIL HERE HAVE NOT BEEN BRIEFING WHY THE CONTRACT WENT UP FROM $25 MILLION TO $30 MILLION.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHY DID THE CONTRACT GO UP FROM 25 MILLION TO $30 MILLION? SURE. AS I SAID EARLIER, BOTH OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE WINGS PROJECT WERE PRICED.

HOWEVER, WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WNBA, WITH THE WINGS, ETC.

BEFORE WE DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE MOST RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED WNBA FACILITIES SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND ALL OF WHAT WAS ENTAILED IN THAT.

SO WE BROUGHT FORWARD THE ARENA COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT FIRST, AND THAT IS THE 25.3 MILLION.

AND THEN NOW WE'RE BRINGING THIS AS A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY AT 5 MILLION.

OKAY. SO THEREFORE, IF WE IF WE DO HAVE A TWO WEEK DELAY, THEIR PRICE IS NOT GOING TO BE CHANGED.

IT'S STILL GOING TO BE THE $5 MILLION, GOING FROM 25 MILLION TO $30 MILLION IN TWO WEEKS.

IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION? CITY MANAGER. DECLINED TO SAY.

IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE AMOUNT WILL CHANGE WOULD NOT CHANGE.

IN OTHER WORDS, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A DELAY. RIGHT NOW WE ARE VOTING ON IT FROM $25 MILLION, 137,000 TO 30,000, $30 MILLION, 639 IN 2 WEEKS.

WOULD THOSE NUMBERS CHANGE? RIGHT NOW AGAIN, THAT NUMBER IS A NOT TO EXCEED, WHICH IS WHY IT SAYS NOT TO EXCEED 5.5.

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IS WE GOING TO VOTE ON 11? WOULD ANYTHING CHANGE TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WITH THESE NUMBERS THAT PRESENTED TODAY? WE WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD NOT CHANGE, MEANING THAT THE NUMBER DOES NOT GO UP.

I DOUBT THAT IT WILL GO DOWN. SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE BETTER ANSWER THAT OUR GOAL WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE NUMBER DOES NOT INCREASE, SINCE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS FIRM THAT'S ALREADY ENGAGED TO DO THE ACTUAL DESIGN, AND THIS IS ABOUT ADDING THAT PRACTICE FACILITY PIECE TO IT.

SO THE GOAL WOULD BE TO KEEP THE NUMBERS STABLE, BUT I DOUBT THAT THE NUMBER WILL GO BACKWARDS.

I DON'T THINK IT'LL GO BELOW 5.5 AT THIS POINT, BUT THE ITEM IS REALLY TO NOT EXCEED.

SO IF AT ONCE THE WORK STARTS, IF THEY'RE DONE AND THEY'VE GOT THE DESIGN PIECE IN PLACE, THEN WE DEFINITELY COULD DEFINITELY SPEND UNDER THAT.

BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER WILL DO BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE THE 11TH.

OKAY, SO ROSA, I KNOW THAT IF THIS BE DELAYED FOR TWO WEEKS.

I'M JUST THE CONTRACT THAT WE ARE ABOUT TO LET OUT, AND WE'RE ON A TIME CRUNCH. AND WITH THE TIME CRUNCH, THERE'S OTHER PROJECTS THAT THIS COMPANY HAVE TO ENGAGE IN.

IF THERE IS A COMPANY HERE. NOW, WHO WHO THIS CONTRACT IS ABOUT TO LET OUT TO.

ARE THEY HERE? THEY WERE HERE EARLIER. I BELIEVE THEY'VE GONE NOW.

ARE THEY HERE? NO THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE GONE. I WISH THEY WAS HERE BECAUSE WE CAN REACH OUT TO THEM.

BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, MY CONCERN IS NUMBER ONE.

TWO WEEKS IN A DELAY MIGHT CAUSE A WHOLE LOT OF ISSUES.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE. I'LL LISTEN TO YOU AS A CITY MANAGER, BUT ALSO, YOU WILL HEAR THAT WHEN YOU DO PROJECTS LIKE THIS, YOU GOT A DEADLINE.

EVERY MINUTE AND EVERY DAY COUNTS AND DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH TEAMWORK AND HOW MUCH THEY'VE DONE PUT INTO THIS CONTRACT IN ORDER TO GET IT ACROSS THE LINE WITHIN TWO WEEKS. AND SO THEREFORE IN TWO WEEKS, WHAT WOULD THEY DO DIFFERENT? AND THEY SAID, HEY, I LOST THESE TWO WEEKS. I CANNOT RECOVER THE TWO WEEKS I LOST.

AND THAT'S MY CONCERN HERE. BUT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE AN ITEM LIKE THIS.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT A PARK DEPARTMENT HAD A MEETING YESTERDAY, A CLOSED SESSION, BUT THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PARK DEPARTMENT, JUST STRICTLY ON THE CITY WHO HAD A CONTRACT WITH THE WINGS.

AND AND I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IN GOOD FAITH THAT WE ARE DOING THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HONORING THE CONTRACT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE ENGINEERS AND THE CONTRACT AND THE DESIGNERS MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS DONE.

SO I STILL UNDERSTAND THAT, HEY, THE NUMBERS ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE AS MUCH DIFFERENT.

I DON'T SEE WHAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT IN TWO WEEKS.

I DON'T SEE THAT. COULD WE BEEN BRIEFED A LITTLE EARLIER? YES, WE COULD HAVE, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A MAJOR CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND TWO WEEKS.

I KNOW JUNE 11TH IS GOING TO BE A LONG DAY. NOT ONLY THAT, WHEN WE HAD THE LAST BRIEFING ON THE LAST VOTING ITEM, WE MAY BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT. WHATEVER, BUT ARE YOU GOING TO GOING TO GET ANYTHING RESOLVED? YOU KNOW, SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT DELAY. MISS SCHULTZ ON THE DELAY.

WHAT ROUND? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SECOND OR FIRST? YES, SIR. SECOND. THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. SIR.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, IN THE ORIGINAL $25 MILLION CONTRACT, DID IT NOT INCLUDE A PRACTICE FACILITY? AND NOW WE NEED MORE BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION CHANGE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT. SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE PRACTICE FACILITY IN THAT FIRST ITEM BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO GO BACK AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WNBA.

WE NEEDED TO SCOPE IT OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL WAS A COST THAT WAS IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON AROUND THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF PRACTICE FACILITY COSTS. AND SO WE HELD THAT PORTION AND BROUGHT IT BACK AS A SUPPLEMENT.

OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

AND SO IF WE DELAY AND WE GET THE FULL PICTURE OF THE PLAN FOR THE LOCATION, THAT WILL BE ABLE TO BE LOCATION SPECIFIC, SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THE OTHER ANCILLARY THINGS, WHETHER IT'S USE AGREEMENTS OR WHETHER IT'S RETAIL OR WHATEVER IT IS.

WE WILL HAVE THAT. SO IT'S VERY LIKELY, I WOULD ARGUE, THAT THE MONEY WILL PROBABLY GO UP, BUT IT MEANS THE REASON THAT WE WOULD SPEND MORE IS BECAUSE THE RETURN WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE IN THE DESIGN OF THIS FACILITY.

SO WHETHER IT GOES UP OR NOT, I KNOW YOU CAN'T SPECULATE ON THAT, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I THINK IT WILL HELP ALL OF US.

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AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT NUMBER WHEN WE FIRST ALLOCATED THE 25 MILLION.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 30 FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

BUT I DO THINK THAT IF, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HEARD YET FROM ANYBODY THAT IT'S A DEAL KILLER.

IF WE WAIT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE FULL PICTURE ON THAT.

AND FRANKLY, PERSONALLY, I WILL BE PREPARED TO POTENTIALLY SPEND MORE IF THAT FULL PICTURE INCLUDES ALL THE THINGS THAT WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE CITY OTHER THAN JUST A, YOU KNOW, BASKETBALL COURTS FOR THIS ONE TEAM.

SO I WOULD RATHER BE ABLE TO HAVE THE BIGGER PICTURE WITH THE POTENTIAL OF MAKING A BIGGER INVESTMENT THAN RIGHT NOW, JUST DOING THE SUPPLEMENT. AND THEN LATER, IF WE HAVE THIS FULL, GREAT PICTURE AND WE COME BACK AND WE GO, BUT WAIT, YOU SAID IT WAS ONLY GOING TO BE FIVE MORE.

I WOULD MUCH RATHER DO IT ALL AT ONCE. SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND WITH IT, AND I CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE DELAY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIR MORENO, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE ON THE MOTION TO DELAY FIVE? THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU. ROSA. CAN YOU GO OVER THE COST BREAKDOWN AGAIN? DESIGN FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY. DESIGN COST AND CONSTRUCTION COST.

SO I'LL BRING THE CONSTRUCTION COST WHEN I BRING YOU THE THE ADDRESS.

BUT BASICALLY THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WOULD INCLUDE SITING PREPARATION.

SO GROUNDWORK FOR THE BUILDING. IT WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, THE PURCHASE OF MATERIALS TO CONSTRUCT THE BUILDING ANY OF THE PERMITTING COSTS, ETC., THAT ARE RELATED TO THAT.

AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION. SO DO WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION COST TODAY? WE HAVE AN INVESTMENT LEVEL COST BECAUSE WE'VE USED THE COSTS US THAT ARE COMMENSURATE WITH BUILDINGS THAT ARE FOR THE WNBA, THAT HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED AROUND THE COUNTRY IN THE LAST MONTH TO THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM THAT HAVE COMPLETED OR ARE FURTHER ALONG IN THEIR PROCESS THAN THAN WE ARE.

RIGHT. SO WE'VE USED THAT AS A AS A BASIS FOR IT TO GIVE YOU THE COST.

COST. WE WOULD NEED THE DESIGNER TO FINISH THEIR DEEDS, THEIR DESIGNS, AND THEN WE WOULD NEED THE CMAA OR THE DESIGN BUILDER TO, TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR YOU ALL.

SO YOU'LL BE COMING BACK TO THIS BODY ON THAT COST? ABSOLUTELY. AND THEN TYPICALLY ON ANY PROJECTS THAT YOU DO, TELL ME ABOUT THE CONTINGENCIES THAT YOU BUILD INTO IT.

SO KNOWING THAT THE MARKET IS COULD GO UP OR DOWN.

SURE. HOW MUCH OF A DO YOU PUT IN THERE? SO I PUT 8% CONTINGENCY AND THEN A TARIFF ALLOWANCE OF ANOTHER 5%.

AND SO THAT COVERS A TWO WEEK PERIOD A YEAR. WHAT'S SORT OF THE GUIDELINE? WELL, I MEAN, IT COVERS SOME DELAYS, BUT THEN THAT ACTUALLY CREATES CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WINGS. AND SO THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S COVERABLE.

BUT IT CREATES, YOU KNOW, ANY ESCALATION IN THE COST OF MATERIALS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK AS CITY MANAGER TOLBERT SAID EARLIER, WE'RE IN A VOLATILE ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW.

SO AND IT COULD GO EITHER WAY. IT COULD GO UP OR DOWN, RIGHT.

SO SO THAT'S WHAT THE CONTINGENCY WOULD COVER.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES? YEAH, I THOUGHT IT WAS THREE. YEAH. ROSA, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

SO. THIS IS TO ADD FUNDS FOR THE THE DESIGN OF THIS IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT. IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? I'M NOT SURE.

IS IT MIC CHECK? YEAH IT IS, I THINK. THERE YOU GO. IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.

WAS THEIR PLANS FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT FOR THE ORIGINAL 25 MILLION? NO, THAT ORIGINAL 25 MILLION INCLUDED JUST THE ARENA COMPONENT.

IT DID NOT INCLUDE THE PRACTICE FACILITY COSTS.

IT DID NOT. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WHETHER THIS GETS APPROVED, THIS 5 MILLION GETS APPROVED? IS THERE A WAY FOR THIS WORK TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD IN PRICE? AND I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT MY ATTORNEYS TOO. BUT IS THERE A WAY FOR THIS WORK TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ORIGINAL 25 MILLION UNTIL THIS GETS APPROVED TO COVER THAT? IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT? SO THE ACTUAL SCOPE FOR THE 25 WAS FOR THE ARENA ITSELF.

SO IF WE WOULD ASK THEM TO NOW SHIFT OVER THE SCOPE AND USE SOME OF THAT FUNDING FOR THIS PURPOSE,

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AND THIS IS THE SUPPLEMENTAL THAT ROSA TALKED ABOUT, WHICH NOW ALLOWS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN OF THE PRACTICE FACILITY, HAVING THOSE WNBA STANDARDS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.

SO IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE WHEN WE ENGAGED THIS DESIGN FIRM.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THERE GOES THAT OPTION.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE THE NEXT THING IS, IS ONE. AND I WANT TO JUST THANK YOU MISS HOBART, FOR FOR TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAKING, YOU KNOW, US NOT GETTING BRIEFED OR EVERYONE'S NOT GETTING BRIEFED. AND I'LL SHARING THAT AS THE CHAIR OF THE SPORTS COMMITTEE TO NOT ASK YOU TO GO AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS BRIEFED AND CAUGHT UP TO SPEED ON THAT. SO I PUBLICLY WANT TO JUST SHARE IN SOME OF THAT RESPONSIBILITY THERE AND SAY, I GET THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY MORE DELAYS.

AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING THAT WE WE DON'T HAVE THE TRANSPARENCY TO MAKE THIS DECISION.

BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 5 MILLION. WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE KIND OF WHAT THAT PURPOSE IS FOR.

SO I WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY DELAYS.

AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT CUSHION TO RECOVER DOWN THE ROAD IF WE NEED TO.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DELAY? SEEING NONE. A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED ON THE MOTION TO DELAY, AND A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN GRANTED.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED. AND I WILL ALSO ASK THAT YOU SPEAK INTO YOUR MICROPHONES WHEN RESPONDING.

COUNCILMEMBER WEST. NO. COUNCILMEMBER MORENO.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER GRACEY. NO. COUNCILMEMBER ARNOLD.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NARVAEZ. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. WILLIS. NO. COUNCILMEMBER.

RIDLEY. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. NO.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. NO. MAYOR. JOHNSON. NO.

WITH SIX VOTING IN FAVOR. NO. OPPOSE. THAT MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK ON ITEM 15. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 15? CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR. OKAY.

DID YOU NOT WANT TO OR I DO. OKAY. HOLD ON. LET ME CHECK WITH THE CITY SECRETARY.

WHAT ROUND? THE STARS HAVE DISAPPEARED THERE FOR HIM.

YEAH. WE'RE ON THE MAIN MOTION ON ITEM 15. SO, MR. MAYOR, ON THE MAIN MOTION, THE ONLY SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE ON THAT MAIN MOTION WAS COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AT 12 DIFFERENT DISTRICT 12.

ANYONE ELSE? AND COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ IN 11.

YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. ITEM 15 ROSA BY CONTRACT, WHERE WAS THE ORIGINAL PRACTICE FACILITY AGREED TO BE LOCATED.

AND WHAT CHANGED? THERE WAS NO ADDRESS INCLUDED IN THAT ORIGINAL BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO DETERMINE WHAT THOSE WNBA STANDARDS WERE.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRACT THAT WE SIGNED IN NOVEMBER 2024, IT GIVES THE ARENA.

AND THEN BECAUSE FOR SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OF NARVAEZ, WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR NEGOTIATION WITH FIFA REGARDING THE IBC.

A CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE NOT YET SET COMPLETELY FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE WOULD PHASE IT. WE DID NOT THEN INCLUDE AN ADDRESS IN THAT WE WE SIMPLY SAID SECONDARY FACILITY.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ORIGINAL LOCATION WAS TO BE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER SITE.

IS THAT INCORRECT? SO WE WERE LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

WE LOOKED AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD USE ANYTHING ABUTTING THE CONVENTION CENTER, HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST? WE LOOKED AT THE TIMING, GIVEN THAT FIFA WOULD BE OBLIGATED TO USE THAT PORTION OF THE FACILITY FOR THAT PERIOD. AND WE DID WORK WITH OUR REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT SITES WITHIN THE AREA AND ALSO ASKED OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHO OWN PROPERTY, GIVEN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE CITY WAS HAVING ABOUT USING THINGS THAT WE ALREADY OWNED AS PART OF THAT.

SO THAT WAS SOME OF THE DUE DILIGENCE WE DID IN THE INTERIM AS WE AWARDED THE FIRST COMPONENT OF THE GENSLER CONTRACT SO THEY COULD GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THE ARENA

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WHY CAN WE NOT CURRENTLY DISCLOSE THE LOCATION? AND CAN YOU SHARE HOW THE SITE WAS IDENTIFIED AND SELECTED? SO I JUST RAN THROUGH KIND OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID.

YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THE FACILITY, WE LOOKED AT THE NEEDS THAT WE KNEW AT THE TIME OF THE WNBA.

WE NEEDED A FLAT SITE. WE NEEDED A SITE THAT WASN'T GOING TO COST US A LOT FOR SITE PREPARATION.

WE NEEDED SITES THAT DID NOT FLOOD, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND WE NEEDED IT TO BE ACCESSIBLE FOR FOR THE TEAM MEMBERS AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE, THE WINGS, ETC., SO, AND BE ABLE TO HAVE PUBLIC BENEFIT AS WELL.

SO WITHOUT DISCLOSING THE LOCATION. CAN YOU TELL US WHO IDENTIFIED THE AREA AND WHO DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE IDENTIFIED AREA? SO WE WORKED AGAIN WITH REAL ESTATE. WE WORKED WITH OUR DEPARTMENT AT OUR OWN BUILDINGS THAT WE OWN, AND WE WORKED WITH THE PARK DEPARTMENT EACH OF THEM GIVING US A LIST OF BUILDINGS OR SITES THAT WE COULD PROPOSE THAT MET SOME OF THOSE CHECKLIST ITEMS. WAS THERE AN ECONOMIC STUDY DONE ON THIS? WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE 7 TO 1 RETURN ON CITY PROPERTY, ON PARKS.

AND SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT TYPE OF ECONOMIC STUDY WAS DONE TO SEE A RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ONCE THE THE SITE IS APPROVED AS A SITE IS ENGAGED, A COMPANY THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS WHICH IS 100 PARTNERS OR HRA AND THEY THEN DO THE ECONOMIC STUDY.

WE HAVE DONE AN INTERIM STUDY, BUT NOT A SITE SPECIFIC STUDY ON WHAT WOULD BE GENERATED FROM ONE THE ARENA AND TWO FROM A PRACTICE FACILITY WITH THE SITE SPECIFIC STUDY.

WOULD ZONING HAVE CONSEQUENCES OR VARY? IF WE HAVE ZONING THAT IS INDUSTRIAL, THAT WOULD LIMIT THE TYPE OF ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.

SO I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE ALIGNED WITH THE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD TO BRIEF, BUT OBVIOUSLY ZONING HASN'T HAS AN IMPACT ON HOW QUICKLY YOU CAN BUILD SOMETHING.

AND THEN TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WE OBVIOUSLY WANT OUR DALLAS KIDS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS GREAT ASSET.

IS THERE AN AGREEMENT AVAILABLE THAT WOULD SHOW US THE PERCENTAGE OF USES THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WOULD BE ALLOTTED TO? SURE. AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT IN THE BRIEFING OR BEFORE THAT, IF NECESSARY.

BUT PART OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE WINGS HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS INCLUDED PUBLIC BENEFIT, INCLUDING CLINICS, ACCESS TO PLAYERS WHERE NECESSARY ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AND BRING THE THINGS TO DALLAS.

I THINK THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT. I THINK THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED ENGAGING IN THE DALLAS COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN KIND OF ATTEST TO THAT. THEY BROUGHT THEIR PREMIUM PLAYER AND PREMIUM AND THEIR TOP RECRUITS AND DRAFT PICKS TO DALLAS FOR THEIR FOR THEIR PRESS CONFERENCE. YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THEY'VE AND THEY'VE DONE SEVERAL OTHER THINGS AS THE CITY HAS ASKED THEM TO ENGAGE HERE. SO OUTSIDE OF THE AGREEMENT, OUTSIDE OF A BUILDING ALREADY BEING CONSTRUCTED FOR THEM, THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED FIRMING UP THEIR COMMITMENT.

YOU DID AN AMAZING JOB WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER ON COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND ENGAGEMENTS.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE MASTER PLAN CALLS FOR THE SITE? AND HOW MANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS HAVE TAKEN PLACE? SURE. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN, WE TALK ABOUT IT IN IN TOTAL.

AND I'M SORRY SPECIFICALLY FOR NOT THE CURRENT CONVENTION SITE ACROSS FROM CITY HALL, BUT THE PROPOSED LOCATION.

IS THERE A MASTER PLAN ADOPTED FOR THAT AREA AND HOW MUCH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HAS TAKEN PLACE? POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR. PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

GERMANENESS TO THE I SUSTAIN IT. THANK YOU. DON'T RESPOND TO THAT YET.

LET'S GET BACK ON TO THE THE MEAT OF THIS AGENDA ITEM.

IN CLOSING YOU KNOW, WITH WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO DISCLOSE THE LOCATION I DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING THE INVESTMENT THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR TODAY.

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THANK YOU. OKAY. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON ITEM 15.

THANK YOU. SO THE AGREEMENT WITH THE WINGS, I'M PULLING IT UP TO SAY THAT WE APPROVED THIS APRIL 24TH, 2024. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND NOW WE'RE IN SUCH A CRUNCH THAT THE TWO WEEKS MATTER.

I MEAN, IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR. SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THAT YEAR.

ONE, WE PROCURED THE PM, WE OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM WHO HAD TO GO FORWARD AND WORK ON ENVIRONMENTALS RELATED TO FACILITIES, ETC.. WE PROCURED A DESIGNER FOR THE.

RESPECTFULLY, I BELIEVE YOU THAT YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK THIS YEAR.

I JUST I'M ASKING THAT GIVEN THIS WAS 13 MONTHS AGO, ARE YOU NOW SAYING THAT THESE NEXT TWO WEEKS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT? WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IF YOU ALLOW ME THE TWO WEEKS, I CAN BRING YOU BACK SOME SCHEMATICS AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT GIVE YOU A BETTER PERSPECTIVE ON THE PROJECT, RIGHT? I THINK THAT WILL ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE YOU'VE ASKED TODAY.

I THINK THAT WILL THEN BE ASKING THE ARCHITECT TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS AT A, AT A LATER TIME FRAME.

SO DO I WORRY ABOUT TIME FRAMES AND DELIVERY? OBVIOUSLY THERE'S REVENUE ATTACHED TO EVERYTHING WE DO IN OUR ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENT.

SO I ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT ABOUT TIME FRAMES. IS IT UNDOABLE, OR IS THAT A QUESTION THAT YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER HERE TODAY? THAT IT'S UNDOABLE IF WE ADD THE TWO WEEKS? I KNOW I CAN'T.

IT'S OKAY. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THE SITE LOCATION IS NOW BEING REPORTED BY WFAA, NBC AND WILONSKY.

SO PRETTY SURE IT'S OUT THERE. IS ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE WING CONTRACT THAT WE SIGNED LAST YEAR TO GENERATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. AND WOULD THIS LOCATION ACTUALLY EVER PAY US BACK FOR THE 58? $9 MILLION EXPECTED TO COST. POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR.

POINT OF ORDER. THE QUESTION IS NOT GERMANE TO THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU. MY NEXT QUESTION IS IS THIS LOCATION THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO APPROVE THIS MONEY FOR? NEXT TO AN INDUSTRIAL PARK AND BATCH PLANT? POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR. POINT OF ORDER! GERMANENESS TO THE ITEM.

SUSTAINED. I GUESS I COULD KEEP DOING IT, BUT IT SEEMS NOT FAIR.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL JUST ASK A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, PLEASE.

PLEASE STATE YOUR INQUIRY. I'M SORRY. MY TIME SHOULD BE SUSPENDED FOR A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

CAN YOU TELL ME THAT IF THE BODY WAS TO VOTE NO ON THIS ITEM, WOULD IT BE ABLE TO BE BROUGHT BACK IN TWO WEEKS? IF. IF THIS FAILED TODAY, YES. COULD IT BE RECONSIDERED? YES. BY SOMEONE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE. I'LL LET THE.

I'LL LET THE PARLIAMENTARIAN READ WHAT OUR RULES SAY ABOUT MOTIONS TO RECONSIDER, MOTION TO RECONSIDER IF WE WANTED IT TO BE ON THE 11TH AS OPPOSED TO OUR NEXT MEETING. THAT'S YOUR INQUIRY, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. I'LL LET THE PARLIAMENTARIAN GIVE YOU THAT RESPONSE SO IT WON'T APPEAR TO BE.

MADE UP. BECAUSE IT KIND OF WOULD BE BECAUSE I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE RULES.

I MEAN, I HAVE MY COPY OF THEM HERE, BUT SHE'S FASTER.

SHE'S GOT THAT BOOK TAB. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE NOT LATER THAN THE NEXT SUCCEEDING VOTING AGENDA.

BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE IT, WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO POST THE RECONSIDERATION AND THE ITEM ITSELF TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION ON IT.

IF YOU DON'T DO IT THAT WAY, YOU'D HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER TWO WEEKS TO ACTUALLY HEAR THE ITEM.

AND HOW WOULD ONE MAKE THAT RECONSIDERATION ITEM FOR YOU TO POST? I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A METHOD FOR THAT TO HAPPEN THAT I'M AWARE OF, SO.

WOULD THAT BE JUST NOTIFYING THE CITY SECRETARY THAT YOU INTEND TO DO SO? WELL, YEAH, LET ME DO IT THAT WAY. OR YOU CAN NOTIFY MY OFFICE THAT YOU'RE INTENDING TO DO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IF YOU'RE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE.

I UNDERSTAND I WOULD NOT BE ON THE PREVAILING SIDE, BUT I DO WANT TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW HOW THAT COULD HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, I BELIEVE YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 15.

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I THINK THAT WE BEAT THE DEAD HORSE OF WHAT A DELAY WOULD DO.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE COULD WHAT WE COULD SAY PRETTY CONFIDENTLY AT THIS POINT IS JUST AS WE'VE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, A DELAY TACTIC IS A KILL TACTIC. IT'S ONLY SUPPORTED BY THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

IN THE END, WE'RE WASTING TIME IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY GET THIS THROUGH.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS GOOD POINTS MADE IN THE DISCUSSION. I WAS ACTUALLY WANTING TO SEE IT, BUT THE REALITY IS THOSE THAT ARE DIGGING THEIR HEELS IN NOW ON THE IS IS DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION. AND SO I JUST THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S A WASTE OF, OF, OF TIME FOR US TO CONTINUE TO BEAT THE DEAD HORSE INSTEAD OF JUST BEING TRANSPARENT WITH WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE WHEN WE ARE HAVING THESE DEBATES AND AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ALSO MORE HELPFUL TO BE TRANSPARENT TO STAFF TO GIVE YOU THE ACCURATE DIRECTION AND TO OUR PUBLIC.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MESSAGING TO ME THAT IS DISINGENUOUS.

QUITE FRANKLY, MAYOR AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US, YOU KNOW, STAY TAILORED TO WHAT IT IS THAT THE AGENDA IS ASKING US TO APPROVE OR NOT.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS DISCUSSION CONTINUES TO VARY FAR OUTSIDE OF THAT REALM.

SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, AND I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY VOTE TODAY. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 15.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT WE AS A CITY SUPPORT THE WINGS.

WE APPRECIATE MAYOR YOU BRINGING, YOU KNOW, YOU AND KIM AND EVERYBODY ELSE FIGHTING TO BRING THE WINGS HERE AND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE MEDIA.

WE ARE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THE WINGS. THIS IS JUST AN ISSUE WE GOT TO WORK THROUGH TODAY.

THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 15. THANK YOU. AND I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE AND WENT INTO CLOSED SESSION, AND SO I DO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THERE ARE HALF OF US THAT DIDN'T. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO HAPPEN HERE.

SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU'VE BEEN ALLUDING TO A BRIEFING, BUT WE THAT FAILED.

SO ARE YOU ALL PLANNING TO BRING THIS AS A BRIEFING ITEM ANYWAY? SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THE WHOLE PICTURE, I THINK IS WHAT COUNCIL IS ASKING US TO DO, THAT EVEN WITH THE ITEM THAT IS COMING ON JUNE THE 11TH, THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TIE IT BACK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.

SO YOU HAVE THE FULL PICTURE. AND THAT WAS THE PLAN ORIGINALLY.

I MENTIONED EARLIER IN MY COMMENTS THAT DUE TO THE TIMING OF THE PARK BOARD MEETING, WE REMOVED THAT ITEM.

SO DEFINITELY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD IN COMMUNICATING WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL OUTSIDE OF THE COMMITTEE DISCUSSIONS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S IN A CLOSED ENVIRONMENT, AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT EVEN ON THIS ITEM THAT WE TIE THE TWO TOGETHER.

SO THAT COULD EITHER BE VIA IF IF COUNCIL WANTS A BRIEFING OR A MEMORANDUM THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TELL YOU HOW THE TWO PIECES ARE GOING TO COME TOGETHER AND BE ABLE TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD TO DELIVER THE FACILITY BY THE SPRING OF 2026.

OKAY. SO YOU ARE GOING TO BRING IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE 11TH ITEM.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IF COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM TODAY, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO HAVE THE FULL PICTURE FOR THE ITEM THAT WOULD BE COMING FOR JUNE THE 11TH. WE WOULD STILL TAKE THIS INFORMATION FROM TODAY AND TIED THE TWO TOGETHER FOR THE COUNCIL.

SO WE WILL GET A CLEARER PICTURE. YES, MA'AM.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. YES, MA'AM. THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IN A PLEA.

I MEAN, THIS IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE WANT TO MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE WINGS.

BUT THERE IS ALSO $5.5 MILLION. SO YOU HAVE 25 ALREADY ON THE TABLE.

HAS THAT ALL BEEN USED? NO, IT HAS NOT BEEN USED.

BUT HOW THE CONTRACT IS WRITTEN IS IT'S FOR THE ARENA.

SO THE SUPPLEMENT THAT IS THE THE ISSUE OF THE ITEM TODAY, THE DELTA FOR THIS YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T SIGN THE CONTRACT UNLESS YOU HAVE THAT DELTA CORRECT. OR THAT 5.5 AND THE AND THE AUTHORITY TO ATTACH IT TO A PRACTICE FACILITY VERSUS THE ARENA, AND YOU'RE DESIGNING A PRACTICE FACILITY FOR $30 MILLION.

SO ONCE WE GET THE DESIGN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TO PRICE IT.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LOOKING AT PRACTICE FACILITIES ACROSS THE ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ARE MOST RECENTLY DESIGNED.

OKAY. I'M NOW. OKAY. SO YOU'VE GOT 25 MILLION ON THE TABLE.

CORRECT. AND THAT IS TO BUY WHAT? SO THE 25 MILLION IS THE DESIGN FOR THE ARENA, FOR THE FLAT WORK AROUND THE ARENA, FOR THE PLAZA THAT CONNECTS BETWEEN THE ARENA AND T BALL, FOR THE INTERSECTION OF HOW THAT PLAZA CONNECTS TO

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SO ALL OF THAT'S IN THERE. OKAY, SO THE 25 MILLION THAT'S ON THE TABLE IS TO DO WHAT OVER HERE.

AND THEN YOU'RE ASKING FOR 5.5 FOR THE PRACTICE, CORRECT.

OKAY. THAT MAKES WAY MORE SENSE. CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS IT. THANKS. MISS SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SO I AM PREPARED TO SUPPORT THIS. I JUST WANT TO BE, AGAIN, COMPLETELY CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND THAT IS THE 25 MILLION IS STAYING AT THE CONVENTION CENTER WITH THE ARENA.

THE 5 MILLION IS TO BEGIN THE WORK OF THIS PRACTICE FACILITY.

AND WE DO NOT YET HAVE A PLAN. WE DO NOT YET HAVE A PLACE FOR THAT PRACTICE, PRACTICE FACILITY, BUT BECAUSE WE SIGNED A CONTRACT, WE HAVE TO BEGIN PLANNING IT REGARDLESS OF WHERE IT IS.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO PREPARE THE PUBLIC FOR THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE MILLIONS.

THERE'S NO WAY IF IT'S GOING TO COST $5 MILLION TO DESIGN IT, IT'S GOING TO COST MILLIONS MORE TO BUILD IT.

AND SO AS LONG AS WE ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT WHICH WE SIGNED A CONTRACT TO DO, THEN LET'S GO.

BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT WILL BE ESSENTIAL. I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR A COMMITTEE YET.

I DON'T MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PARKS DOESN'T YET HAVE A DESIGN, OR WE DON'T HAVE A DESIGN BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T FUNDED A DESIGN.

RIGHT. BUT DO THEY HAVE I WANT TO MAYBE THERE'S A QUESTION FOR PARKS.

YES. THANK YOU. MR. JENKINS, DO YOU HAVE A VERY CLEAR MANDATE OF THE PROGRAMMATIC ASPECTS OF THIS BEYOND THE WNBA ELEMENT? POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

WELL, THIS WITNESS TO THE ITEM. HERE'S THE GERMANE. MAY I SUSTAIN IT? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WAS TRYING TO. OKAY, SO LET ME ASK YOU A DIFFERENT WAY.

YEAH, I CAN APPEAL THE GERMANENESS, BECAUSE, SURE, YOU CAN EXTEND THE MEETING AS LONG AS YOU'D LIKE.

DOES THAT $5 MILLION. I'LL ASK IT A DIFFERENT WAY.

MR. JENKINS, DOES THAT $5 MILLION INCLUDE DESIGN BEYOND THE JUST THE CORE WNBA FACILITY? POINT OF ORDER, MR. MAYOR. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. GERMANENESS. NO, THAT IS GERMANE.

THAT'S 100% GERMANE, BECAUSE I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THE $5 MILLION THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SPEND.

I'M NOT. I THINK IT'S THE PERSON YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTION OF.

THAT IS THE ISSUE. OH, OKAY. STAFF. YES, I'LL SAY STAFF.

SO, COUNCILWOMAN SCHULTZ, I JUST WANTED TO STOP FOR JUST A SECOND, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE YOU HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS YOU SAID BEFORE YOU GOT TO THE QUESTION, AND I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THE COMMITMENT.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COMMITMENT. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE 5 MILLION. THE 5 MILLION IS FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PRACTICE FACILITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MEMORIAL ARENA ACROSS THE STREET. THAT'S THE 25. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR.

SO THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE 5.5 MILLION DOES IS FOR THE ROSA TALKED ABOUT MISS FLEMING, EXCUSE ME, TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THAT. THERE ARE CERTAIN DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WE CLEARLY HAVE TO FOLLOW.

CORRECT. IF THE WINGS ARE GOING TO USE THIS PRACTICE FACILITY.

SO A LOT OF WHAT THAT 5.5 WILL DO WILL ALLOW FOR US TO LOOK AT THAT DESIGN BASED ON THOSE SPECIFICATIONS AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE CITY WOULD WANT TO DO OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE WNBA WOULD BE ASKING FOR, WOULD BE REALLY SUBJECT UP TO US.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THE THE 5.5 IS REALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WITHIN THOSE STANDARDS, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THESE OTHER FACILITIES HAVE BEEN DESIGNED ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND SO WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. IT'S BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW THE NEEDS ARE AND WHAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE FACILITY TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS.

SO BUT THAT WILL BE A QUESTION FOR MISS FLEMING AND NOT FOR MR. JENKINS. SO THE FIVE. SO THE $5 MILLION THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SPEND TODAY IS GOING TO ONLY ADDRESS THE WNBA ISSUES.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU, CITY MANAGER? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT, BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE PRACTICE FACILITY IS BEING DESIGNATED FOR A WNBA TEAM.

HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE OTHER ASPECTS TO THAT FACILITY THAT THE CITY WOULD DESIRE OR OTHER PIECES OF THE THE SITE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO

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OKAY. SO THEN I'LL JUST IS THERE A PLAN THEN IN THE FUTURE FOR YOU TO USE STAFF TO GAIN IMPACT INPUT RATHER FROM US OR OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT OTHER USES? ABSOLUTELY.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE FULL PIECE THAT WOULD BE MORE OVER AND ABOVE WHAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT OUR OUR WOMEN'S SOCCER TEAM IS ALSO LOOKING FOR A POTENTIAL PRACTICE FACILITY.

SO THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL OTHER USES ON, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL SITES.

SO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT KIND OF THIS ONE STOP, BUT IT'S LOOKING AT IT FULL SCALE.

BUT THE ITEM TODAY IS THE ONE THAT IS DIRECTED TO THE FACILITY DESIGN FOR THE PRACTICE FOR THE WNBA TEAM.

AND THE URGENCY IS BECAUSE WE SIGNED A CONTRACT TO HAVE SOMETHING OPEN IN A YEAR.

WE HAVE LESS THAN A YEAR. WE ARE ALREADY WITHIN THE YEAR TO BREAK GROUND AND BE ABLE TO DELIVER THIS FACILITY, WHICH IS WHY WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT OUR TIME FRAME.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 15. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK WE WE'VE UNDERSTOOD AND WE'VE VOTED ALREADY ON A DELAY.

AND WHAT THE REASONS NOT TO DO. I WANT TO GO OVER THE ACTUAL ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME FOLKS ARE NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH ME BECAUSE I RAISED SO MANY POINTS OF ORDER. BUT THE ITEM THAT WAS PULLED WAS TO AUTHORIZE THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH M ARTHUR GENSLER, JR AND ASSOCIATES, INCORPORATED, DBA GENSLER FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE DALLAS MEMORIAL ARENA PRACTICE FACILITY AT AN OFF SITE LOCATION. AND THEN IT'S THE INCREASE.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS BECAME A DEBATE ABOUT THE OFF SITE LOCATION PROGRAMING AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY VOTING ON. BUT IT ALSO HAS A LOT TO DO WITH WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON BECAUSE OF WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN.

BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS LITERALLY JUST THIS PRACTICE FACILITY, BECAUSE IT ENDED UP NOT BEING ABLE TO BE AT THE ARENA.

THE MEMORIAL ARENA THAT WE THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY HOPED THAT IT WOULD BE.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT REASONS. BUT THOSE ARE NEITHER HERE NOR THERE BECAUSE WITHIN OUR CONTRACT IT'S ABLE TO BE WHEREVER.

BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT. AND SO I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS CLEAR IN THE PUBLIC THAT FOLKS ARE CONVOLUTING THIS WITH SOMETHING ELSE. THIS IS NOTHING DIFFERENT THAN A CHANGE ORDER TO A STREET OR TRAFFIC SIGNAL, OR A BUYING SOFTWARE THAT NOW HAS INCREASED IN PRICE WHEN THE CONTRACT IS UP.

IS THIS IS THE EXTRA COST THAT IT'S GOING TO BE IN ORDER TO DO THE DESIGN? THE DESIGN HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON. IT'S JUST NOW IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE THAN WE HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.

I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD. A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED WERE VERY GOOD QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR, AND I'M GLAD. I APPRECIATE THAT. THE CITY MANAGER HAS TOLD US OVER AND OVER AND OVER, ALONG WITH MISS FLEMING, THAT WE WILL HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BRIEFING FOR THOSE OTHER ISSUES THAT FOLKS ARE TRYING TO BRING INTO THIS ITEM.

THE WNBA AND THE DALLAS WINGS ARE A TEAM THAT WE AGREED TO SUPPORT JUST ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

I THINK IT'S TWO YEARS AND A MONTH AGO, MR. MAYOR, AND I REMEMBER ALL THE AMAZING STORIES THAT WERE BEING TOLD ABOUT THAT GIRL DADS AND SUPPORTING WOMEN'S SPORTS AND ESPECIALLY WOMEN'S PROFESSIONAL SPORTS THAT DAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TODAY, BUT THINGS WENT A LITTLE, I THINK, OFF THE RAILS.

BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING BACK THERE. HEY, IT'S EVERYBODY'S DECISION WHETHER TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OR NOT AT THIS POINT, BUT THIS IS LIKE A CHANGE ORDER AND THE LOCATION.

I WISH THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE TOGETHER, AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.

WE ALSO SHOULD HAVE INFORMED THE PARK BOARD AND GIVE THEM SOME INFORMATION.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS COUNCIL SUPERSEDES ALMOST EVERY SINGLE BOARD AND COMMISSION ON THIS IN THIS CITY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE QUASI QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THAT GO TO A SEPARATE GROUP.

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I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THE DEBATE, AND I'M READY TO VOTE, AND LET'S GET THIS GOING BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE.

AS OUR OBLIGATION TO THE DALLAS WINGS, THE WNBA AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY FOR THEIR APPROVAL OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST.

WITH THAT I WILL YIELD AND LOOK FORWARD TO WHATEVER VOTE.

I GUESS WE'LL DO A RECORD VOTE BECAUSE I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO BE ASKED FOR ANYWAY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. JUST ASKED FOR IT. AND SO IT'S IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 15.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL MAKE THIS VERY QUICK. AND AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WE WE ARE NOT BECOMING. WE ARE THE SPORTS CAPITAL.

AND THIS IS DEFINITELY A SPORTS CITY. SO I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING AFTER ALL OF THE DEBATE, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. AND I THINK REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS NOT JUST DOING THIS ONE THING, BECAUSE THIS IS THE THING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR THE WINGS AND NOT TO GET TOO FAR OFF TRACK.

BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO ACT AND BE THE SPORTS CITY, THEN WE NEED TO BE PLANNING FULL SCALE FOR WHAT COULD BE IN THE ENTIRE SPACE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT FROM THERE.

AND AGAIN, FROM A BRIEFING PERSPECTIVE, WHEN THE TIME COMES, YOU KNOW THAT WE CAN GET THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT IT IS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THESE TYPE OF DISCUSSIONS TO REALLY ENSURE THAT WE'RE MAXIMIZING, WHETHER IT'S THIS LOCATION OR ANOTHER LOCATION, REALLY MAXIMIZING IT, TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN BE THAT SPORTS CITY AND BEING.

THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT ALL ASPECTS OF OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS. AND AGAIN TO MY COLLEAGUES.

SORRY WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GET THIS BRIEF TO YOU ALL IN TERMS OF THE LOCATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS, BUT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO KEEP THIS MOVING. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS. THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU. ROSA. THIS IS NOT A CHANGE ORDER. THIS WAS NEVER ORDERED FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES AT ANY LOCATION.

THIS IS A SUPPLEMENT TO AN EXISTING CONTRACT ON THE CONVENTION CENTER LOCATION.

CORRECT? IT'S A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT TO THE TO THE GENSLER CONTRACT THAT WAS THAT INCLUDED THE ARENA, BUT ALSO PRICED THE THE PRACTICE FACILITY. WE JUST DID NOT BRING THE PRACTICE FACILITY AT THE TIME.

SO WE SEPARATED THE COSTS. THE CURRENT CONTRACT WITH THEM, DOES IT INCLUDE THE PRACTICE FACILITY? IT DOES NOT. WE BROUGHT FORWARD THE CONTRACT FOR THE ARENA.

SO I THINK IN COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ DEFENSE, HE WAS SAYING IT'S LIKE A CHANGE ORDER.

PLEASE STOP. I'M NOT ASKING YOU IF ANYBODY. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.

THIS IS NOT A CHANGE ORDER, IS IT? IT IS NOT.

IT'S A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT. CURRENTLY, THE WINGS PRACTICE AT UTA AT COLLEGE PARK.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD EXTEND THE LEASE THERE WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING THIS OUT, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE DEADLINE? THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE WITH THEM.

BUT I'M NOT I DO NOT BELIEVE FOR THE PRACTICE PURPOSES THAT THAT'S THE CASE.

AND OUR CONTRACT WITH THEM DOESN'T DOESN'T CALL FOR THAT IN TERMS OF THE PRACTICE FACILITY, BUT THERE IS AN EXISTING PRACTICE FACILITY THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE HOST THEIR PRACTICE ACTIVITIES FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS.

IS THAT CORRECT? FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS.

WELL, IF IT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS DIFFERENCE AGAIN, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'D HAVE TO HAVE WITH THE WINGS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. IS YOUR QUESTION FOR THE WINGS TO CONTINUE TO PRACTICE FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS IN ARLINGTON BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY PRACTICING? I DON'T THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS REALLY PREDICATED ON THE IDEA THAT THE WINGS ARE NOT GOING TO BE OUT A LOCATION TO PRACTICE.

THERE WILL BE A LOCATION WE MAY HAVE TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT TO EXTEND WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY PRACTICING, BUT IT'S NOT AS IF THEY WILL HAVE NO PLACE TO PRACTICE.

THEY'RE NOT MOVING FROM FROM PHOENIX TO DALLAS AND THEREFORE LOSING THEIR BUILDING.

THEY'RE LITERALLY JUST MOVING A COUPLE MILES OVER IN THE IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS EXECUTED BY THIS BODY IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO INCLUDE A PRACTICE FACILITY FOR THEIR USE, AND WHICH IS WHY WE'RE BRINGING THE ITEM TODAY IS FOR US TO DELIVER A PRACTICE FACILITY BY THE SPRING OF 2026.

SO THAT'S OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT. WE HAVE NOT ENTERED INTO ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE WINGS, NOR HAVE WE BEEN DIRECTED BY THIS BODY TO NEGOTIATE ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE CONTRACT THAT HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED. WELL, AT THE POINT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $59 MILLION FOR A PRACTICE FACILITY,

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CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I SAID LIKE A CHANGE ORDER, JUST SO YOU ALL WILL BETTER UNDERSTAND.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE SOME PEOPLE WEREN'T LISTENING.

BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THE QUESTION THAT WAS BEING ASKED EARLIER, I ACTUALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT IS THE WINGS DO NOT HAVE AN EXTENSION ABILITY WHERE THEY ALREADY PRACTICE. SO THIS IS ALSO PART OF WHEN THEY SIGNED THAT CONTRACT WITH US.

WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT? BECAUSE SOME ARE JUST ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT YOU ALL CAN'T ANSWER.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

POINT OF ORDER. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. GERMANENESS.

SUSTAIN. THANK YOU. SO ON THIS DESIGN CONTRACT THAT PEOPLE DO ASK QUESTIONS ON, THAT AREN'T THINGS THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO ANSWER.

WHEN IT COMES TO THAT ON THIS, THIS IS A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

THIS IS WHERE THE DALLAS WINGS AGREED TO TO IN THE CONTRACT IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A, A FACILITY.

THIS IS PART OF THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THIS IS PART OF THE PRACTICE FACILITY.

CORRECT. AND THAT THAT ENCOMPASSED INSIDE OF THE DESIGN OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.

SO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT SIGNED WITH THE WINGS CALLED FOR THE ARENA AND A SECONDARY FACILITY AKA PRACTICE FACILITY.

VERY GOOD. SO THIS IS WITHIN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

FOR, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS IS A CONTRACT. THIS IS A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT, MR. MAYOR. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FOLKS WHO TYPICALLY REALLY YOU GO THROUGH CONTRACTS.

I'M REALLY SURPRISED THAT A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS HAPPEN ABOUT THIS SUPPLEMENTAL, ONE THAT IS JUST ADDED TO THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.

SO I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE, MR. MAYOR. HOPEFULLY WE ARE.

AND LET'S MOVE FORWARD. GO, WINGS. THANK YOU.

SUSTAINED. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? ITEM 15 RECORD VOTES BEEN REQUESTED AND IT'S BEEN GRANTED.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. PLEASE STATE. YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. AND I WILL ALSO ASK THAT YOU RESPOND IN YOUR MICROPHONE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY.

NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM.

ATKINS. YES. MAYOR JOHNSON. YES. WITH 12 VOTING IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED THE MOTION.

THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO YOUR NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 23.

[23. Authorize the City Manager to negotiate and execute a conditional grant agreement and security documents with Caroline Dallas Tenant, LP, an affiliate of Ojala Partners, LP (together, the Applicant) in an amount not to exceed $2,000,000.00 in 2024 General Obligation Bond Funds (Proposition H: Housing Infrastructure Bond) in consideration of The Caroline, a 344-unit mixed-income workforce development (Project) on property located at 1400 West Commerce Street, Dallas, Texas 75208 and to assist with the extraordinary cost of required on-site, off-site wastewater infrastructure, and streetscape improvements for the Project - Not to exceed $2,000,000.00 - Financing: Housing Infrastructure Bond (H) Fund (2024 General Obligation Bond Fund)]

GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUNDS. PROPOSITION H HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE BOND.

IN CONSIDERATION OF THE CAROLYN, A 344 UNIT MIXED INCOME WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1400 WEST COMMERCE STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 75208. AND TO ASSIST WITH THE EXTRAORDINARY COST OF REQUIRED ON SITE, OFF SITE WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED $2 MILLION.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. IS THERE A MOTION? MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. WE'RE ON ITEM 23.

HI, DARWIN. MY QUESTION IS ON THE 10% VOUCHER SET ASIDE.

IS THAT GOING TO BE FOR THE UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE.

IS THAT GOING TO BE FOR THE MARKET RATE UNITS? SO 10% OF THE UNITS ARE SET ASIDE FOR 60% AMI.

SO THAT IS PART OF THE AFFORDABLE UNIT MIX. SO THE 10% SET ASIDE I THOUGHT WAS FOR VOUCHERS.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL WE DO HAVE A VOUCHER REQUIREMENT THAT SAYS 15% OF THOSE UNITS ARE SET ASIDE FOR VOUCHERS.

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OF THAT, 5,010% WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR INDIVIDUALS AT 60% AMI.

BUT AS AS FAR AS THE INCENTIVE FOR ANY DEVELOPER RECEIVING INCENTIVES THROUGH THE CITY, WE DO REQUIRE A 15% SET ASIDE FOR VOUCHERS.

SO THE DEVELOPER IS ALLOWED TO TAKE VOUCHERS.

AND WE DO HAVE THAT DEVELOPER HERE TODAY. SO I THINK HAVING READ THE MATERIALS THAT IT ACTUALLY SAYS 10% FOR VOUCHERS.

DOES THAT LOOK AT THAT. DOES THAT SOUND PROPER.

BUT TYPICALLY THE VOUCHER SET ASIDE IS 15%. DANIEL, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL? I'LL BRING THAT. DO YOU SEE IN YOUR MATERIALS THAT IT SAYS TEN? I DON'T SEE IT. I'M LOOKING REAL QUICKLY.

SORRY I DIDN'T CALL YOU ABOUT THIS ONE. I DO NOT SEE IT.

OKAY. BUT I WILL CONFIRM THAT WITH YOU. AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR OFFICE.

PRETTY? PRETTY SURE, BECAUSE I PERSONALLY READ IT, RIGHT.

SO SO IF SOMEBODY HAS A VOUCHER, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S ONLY GOING TO COME OUT OF THE 50% AFFORDABLE? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? ITEM 12 SEEING NONE 20. OH, CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT 12 ITEM 2323.

AS MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO OHALA AND ALL THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS PROJECT.

THAT WILL BE IN DISTRICT SIX. 50% OF THE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE AT AFFORDABLE RATES.

DISTRICT SIX STILL CONTINUES TO LEAD THIS ENTIRE COUNCIL ON THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED OR PRODUCED FOR THE CITY.

SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PROUD OF. BUT I'M ALSO PROUD OF MY COLLEAGUES FOR SUPPORTING AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR DISTRICTS THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOES COME WHEN THERE ARE TIMES FOR THAT.

THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ONE THAT I DID ASK IF THIS WOULD DILUTE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THIS AREA AND WAS WE WERE LUCKY THAT IT DOES NOT. AND WE ARE ABLE TO, DO THIS, AND THESE $2 MILLION THAT COME OUT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE BOND, PROPOSITION H WILL BE PART OF THAT MIX. IN ORDER TO HELP GET THOSE UNITS IS BY HELPING OUT WITH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK AGAIN FOR BEING SUCH GOOD PARTNERS AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS ALSO GET BUILT UP ON THAT WEST COMMERCE CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SPROUT UP AND CHANGE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

AND IT'S ALSO JUST GOING TO BE A HOP, SKIP AND A JUMP FROM THE HAROLD SIMMONS PARK.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE 344 UNITS MORE FOR FAMILIES TO ENJOY THAT ARE GOING TO BE VERY, VERY CLOSE AND HALF OF THEM AT AFFORDABLE RATES. LIKE WE ALWAYS SAY OR I SAY IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR INCOME IS, YOU DESERVE TO BE IN ANY AREA AS LONG AS WE CAN MAKE SURE THOSE UNITS ARE THERE.

THANK YOU TO HOUSING AS WELL. ALL Y'ALL'S HARD WORK.

BECAUSE IT IT WAS A LOT TO DO AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS I HAD.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING ALL OF THEM AS THEY CAME THROUGH.

AND WITH THAT THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS COME TO BE VOTED ON AND PASSED BY MY COLLEAGUES.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 23, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

SO WE'RE BEING ASKED TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPER IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2 MILLION. AND THEN ARE WE ALSO BEING ASKED TO AUTHORIZE AN ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE OF 2 MILLION FOR ON SITE AND OFF SITE WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS? OR IS THAT THE SAME $2 MILLION, SAME $2 MILLION COUNCIL MEMBER? OKAY, SAME $2 MILLION, ONLY 2 MILLION NOT TO EXCEED 2 MILLION.

ONLY AN EXPENDITURE OF 2 MILLION TOTAL WITH THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 23? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 30. I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE NO.

YES. NOTED. AGENDA ITEM 30. AUTHORIZE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH GRESHAM SMITH.

[30. Authorize a professional engineering services contract with Gresham Smith, most highly qualified proposer of two, to provide engineering services for Phase I of the Jefferson Boulevard Viaduct Modification and Realignment project to support the demolition of a portion of the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas (KBHCCD) over Lamar Street and the demolition of the Jefferson Boulevard Viaduct/South Market Street bridge including associated work with the KBHCCD - Not to exceed $3,356,179.88 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund]

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THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN? MENDELSOHN.

ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SEEING. NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NO. THE AYES HAVE IT NOTED, MR. MAYOR.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 47. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON HAS A CONFLICT AND HAS LEFT THE CHAMBER.

[47. Authorize a professional services contract with Brown Reynolds Watford Architects, Inc. for architectural and engineering services for the schematic design, design development, construction documents, bidding and negotiation, and construction administration for the renovation of two recreation center facilities: Arcadia Recreation Center located at 5420 Arcadia Drive and Eloise Lundy Recreation Center located at 1228 Reverend CBT Smith Street - Total not to exceed $223,197.00 - Financing: Park and Recreation Facilities (B) Fund (2024 General Obligation Bond Fund)]

TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $223,197. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A DISCUSSION.

OH. I'M SORRY. SEEING NONE. CHAIRWOMAN, ARE YOU FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, I WAS ATTEMPTING TO TALK ABOUT IT THIS MORNING BECAUSE OF MY EXCITEMENT ABOUT IT.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A CONFLICT. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE CONFLICT IS? THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT PUBLICLY, MISS BILIERAE.

THE THE CONFLICT WAS DISCLOSED. I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY SHARE IT WITH YOU AND THE COUNCIL.

OKAY, THEN THAT WOULD BE FINE. I APPRECIATE THAT.

ON THIS ITEM, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SPEAK ONLY ON ELOISE LUNDY AT 1228 REVEREND SMITH STREET.

I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE FOCUS NOW ON THE BOTTOM AND REALLY TRY AND WHERE ELOISE LUNDY IS LOCATED.

SO FOR THAT COMMUNITY TO HAVE SOME RENOVATION OF THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION IS VERY EXCITING.

IT'S ALSO EXCITING BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING MONEY INTO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE BOTTOM.

WE'RE I THINK PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO. NOW WE HAVE HOUSING COMING UP.

THERE ARE FAMILIES WHO ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE ATTENTION THAT WE'RE GIVING TO THE BOTTOM, AND THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING A PLACE WHERE THEIR CHILDREN CAN PLAY AND THEY CAN RECREATE IF THERE'S A WORD THAT I CAN CREATE.

BUT FOR ME TO SIT HERE THIS MORNING TO SEE THIS INVESTMENT, MOST OF YOU IN AROUND THE HORSESHOE WILL NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO FEEL MY EXCITEMENT AND HAPPINESS FOR THIS COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN PUT ON PAUSE FOR SO LONG.

AND SO NOW THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A COME UP.

IN FACT, BECAUSE OF WHAT'S GOING TO GO ON AT THIS THE RECREATION CENTER, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE HOUSING? AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT BEEN THERE, THAT IS $1 BILLION VIEW TO DOWNTOWN.

AND JUST HOLISTICALLY, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE BOTTOM WHO SIT AT THIS HORSESHOE WHERE I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO THANK YOU INDIVIDUALLY, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU, IF YOU WERE HERE AND YOU VOTED TO PUT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE BOTTOMS AND YOU VOTED TO SUPPORT HOUSING FUNDS IN THE BOTTOM, WE DEFINITELY THANK YOU.

I KNOW I THANK YOU, AND THERE'S NOTHING I CAN'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON IT.

I CAN'T EVEN EMOTIONALLY TELL YOU HOW GRATEFUL I AM FOR INVESTING IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS NEEDED A COUNCIL TO DO WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE THROUGH YOUR VOTE. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW I GO BACK AND I HAVE TO JUST TAP ON THIS JUST ONE MINUTE, BECAUSE I REMEMBER ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAD DOWN IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND THAT EVEN MISS JAYNIE SCHOLZ AT THAT TIME WAS ON THE I THINK YOU WERE ON THE CPC OR SOMETHING.

AND, I MEAN, I WAS ABOUT TO PASS OUT BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT HOUSE RESOLVED.

BUT HOUSING GOES WITH THE RECREATION CENTER, GOES WITH THE PARK, AND I AM JUST MORE THAN ELATED TODAY.

AND THEN JUST AS A QUICK NOTICE NOTE, AND I HOPE IT IS GERMANE, WE WILL BE UNVEILING NEW PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE COMPLEMENTING THE RECREATION CENTER. SO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, WHO VOTED FOR THE PEOPLE, THE FAMILIES IN THE BOTTOM.

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SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING AND THOSE WHO HAVE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO HAVE WAITED SO LONG, IT IS A VERY GREAT DAY. AND I THANK THE PARKS AND RECREATION FOR GIVING THAT.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, NOW WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK IS NOT DELAYED AND THEY GET TO SEE IT BEFORE THE CHILDREN DOWN THERE TURN TO BE TURNED IN AGE, AND THEY BECOME 35 AND 40 YEARS OLD. AND THEY'LL BE PERHAPS SOME OF THEM SITTING AROUND THIS HORSESHOE TRYING TO ADVANCE THAT, THAT AGENDA. SO IT'S WITH THAT, I THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND MAYOR, OF COURSE WE'RE INVITING YOU AS WELL THURSDAY TO CELEBRATE.

BUT PLEASE KNOW THIS IS A VERY MONUMENTAL MOMENT THAT WE'RE VOTING ON NOW, AS WELL AS THURSDAY WHEN WE CELEBRATE.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AND IT'S ALL ON. IT'S ON LIKE NECK BONES FOR ELOISE LUNDY.

THANK YOU TO THE PARK DEPARTMENT AND HARRISON BLAIR, MOUND PARK BOARD REPRESENTATIVE, AND ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES WHO HAVE VOTED TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN AND THE FAMILIES THERE. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM 47. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK.

WHAT? CHAIR ARNOLD WAS SAYING. YOU KNOW, MY SONS, BOTH OF THEM WENT.

SPENT SUMMER AFTER SUMMER AT ELOISE LUNDY PLAYING ON THE BASKETBALL TEAMS AND ALL OF THAT.

AND THEN MY OTHER SON WENT TO TAEKWONDO AT ARCADIA PARK.

SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THESE REC CENTERS.

SO TO SEE THIS ACTUALLY COMING TO FRUITION IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE.

AND AGAIN, WE WE KNEW WHAT WE WISHED WE HAD. SO FOR THESE FAMILIES AND EVERYBODY THAT'S DOWN THERE NOW TO EXPERIENCE THIS, PARTICULARLY IN ELOISE AND ARCADIA PARK THEY RECENTLY I THINK ARCADIA PARK RECENTLY GOT A BASKETBALL COURT, BUT THE INSIDE OF THE FACILITIES NEEDED SOME UPGRADES.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO SHARE IN YOUR ENTHUSIASM CHAIR ARNOLD, ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING BOTH AT ARCADIA PARK AND ELOISE.

THANK YOU. SCHULTZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 47.

THANK YOU, AND I APPRECIATE THE MENTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ARNOLD.

THIS WAS WHEN I CHAIRED THE URBAN DESIGN COMMITTEE.

THIS WAS OUR VERY FIRST PROJECT. AND SO TO SEE HER RELENTLESS EFFORTS, MISS ARNOLD'S RELENTLESS EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMUNITY IS REALLY SOMETHING TO UPHOLD AND EXTOLL YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING TIRELESS. THIS.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK REVEREND PARKER, MAGGIE PARKER, LIBBY LEE, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY SHOW WHAT A COMMUNITY, WHAT COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE. AND AGAIN, SIMILARLY, THEIR RELENTLESS EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF THIS COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY WAS PUT THERE FOR ALL.

IT JUST REALLY IS THE EXEMPLAR OF THE MOST RACIST HISTORY OF DALLAS.

AND SO TO BEGIN TO SEE INVESTMENT IN THIS AREA AND A REIMAGINATION.

AND IRONICALLY, I THINK IT IS THAT IT IS PERHAPS ARGUABLE THAT IT'S THE MOST VALUABLE PART OF DALLAS.

IT'S THE ONLY DART STOP ON DART STOP ON THE TRINITY.

IT'S GOT, AS SHE MENTIONED, THE VIEWS. THIS AREA IS REALLY A TREASURE AND SO I'M SO GLAD THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN IT.

AND AGAIN, MISS ARNOLD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 47.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO LAUD MY COLLEAGUE FROM DISTRICT FOUR ON HER HARD WORK, HER TENACITY AND HER NEVER GIVING UP ON THIS PROJECT.

I MENTIONED ANOTHER PROJECT BEFORE THAT WE GOT APPROVED, AND IT'S THE SAME WITH THAT ONE.

AND THIS ONE IS SHE'S NOT GOING TO GIVE UP. SHE'S A FIGHTER.

AND IT'S ALWAYS WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT HAPPENING.

HER TRYING TO GET TO. YES. INSTEAD OF YOU KNOW, ALWAYS.

NO. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I JUST ADORE ABOUT COUNCILWOMAN ARNOLD AND HER LOVE FOR HER COMMUNITY AND HER ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF HER COMMUNITY.

AND THIS IS A NICE, NICE ONE TO FINISH UP THERE.

AND LIKE SHE ALWAYS SAYS, DO MORE FOR DISTRICT FOUR AND ALL THOSE AMAZING RHYMES.

BUT I CAN'T DO THEM AS GOOD AS SHE CAN. BUT SHE DESERVES THIS WIN.

AND HER, BUT ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT FOUR IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

DESERVED THIS FOR A LONG TIME. AND CONGRATULATIONS.

AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING THE JOB DONE HERE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 47? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 48.

[48. Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)25-1631A]

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THIS AFTERNOON YOU HAVE JUST ONE NOMINEE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT, YOUR NOMINEE FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT.

SERGIO ORTEGA IS BEING NOMINATED TO THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

MR. ORTEGA MEETS THE PREVIOUS MILITARY SERVICE EXPERIENCE.

THIS IS YOUR NOMINEE, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BEFORE I MOVE FROM AGENDA ITEM 48, I ALSO HAVE TO, IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR DALLAS CITY CODE OF DALLAS CITY CODE OF ETHICS 12 A DASH 40 F1G2. I AM REQUIRED TO ANNOUNCE THE NAMES OF THE FOLLOWING BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOT WHO HAVE FAILED TO SUBMIT THEIR FINAL FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE REPORT. I'LL TYPE THE NAME IN THE BOARD.

ARTURO FLORES. BUILDING INSPECTION ADVISORY BOARD.

STEPHEN TORDELLA. BUILDING INSPECTION ADVISORY BOARD.

PATTY COLLINS. HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. CALVERT COLLINS, BRATTON PARK AND RECREATION BOARD.

PETER HAHN. REINVESTMENT ZONE EIGHT. DESIGN DISTRICT.

ANTHONY WALDROP. REINVESTMENT ZONE NINE. VICKERY.

MEADOW. CRYSTAL GONZALEZ. REINVESTMENT ZONE 17.

TODD AND LARRY MCGREGOR. TRINITY RIVER WEST. YOUR NEXT ITEM? AGENDA ITEM 49. AGENDA ITEM 49 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENT APPOINTMENTS TO THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT BOARD OF

[49. Consideration of appointment to the Dallas Area Rapid Transit Board of Directors for Positions 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, and 08 (Closed Session, if necessary, Personnel, Sec. 551.074, T. O. M. A.) (Name of nominee in the City Secretary’s Office) - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU HAVE A MOTION.

YES, MR. MAYOR. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THAT? THANK YOU.

I MOVE TO APPOINT THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS TO THE DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT.

DART BOARD OF DIRECTORS RANDALL BRYANT, PATRICK KENNEDY.

MICHELLE WONG. RUY LOPEZ. ENRIQUE MACGREGOR. MORRIS.

WEST. TO FILL ONE OF THE SIX AVAILABLE POSITIONS THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT, WHICH WILL BE ASSIGNED BY THE CITY SECRETARY.

THE TERM OF EACH POSITION WILL BEGIN JULY 1ST, 2025 AND EXPIRE JUNE 30TH, 2027.

BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MR. MAYOR. FIVE MINUTES. WE'RE ON ITEM 49.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. LAST WEEK WE HAD OUR OR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE HAD OUR INTERVIEWS WITH THE DART BOARD MEMBERS.

FOUR OF THESE SIX ARE RETURNING DART BOARD MEMBERS.

ALL HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. RECENTLY RANDALL BRYANT WAS APPOINTED THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE DART BOARD TO FILL THE UNEXPIRED TERM THAT ONE OF OUR FOLKS HAD LEFT VACANT. AND SO CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM.

HE'S UP THERE IN THE FAR RIGHT CORNER. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE HIM, YOU CAN WAVE AT HIM OR WHATEVER, AND JUST WANT TO THANK HIM FOR BEING HERE. AND ALSO THANK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR DART BOARD MEMBERS FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TERM, AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORK OF THE NEW INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE COMING ONTO THE BOARD AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP MAKE DART AN EVEN BETTER PLACE THAN IT ALREADY HAS IMPROVED, BUT IT STILL NEEDS A LOT MORE IMPROVEMENT, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE THE NEXT LEGISLATURE, BUT THANK THEM ALSO FOR THEIR ADVOCACY, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND MANY OF OUR SISTER CITIES, OUR COUSINS NEXT DOOR ALL AROUND THAT WE ALL WORK TOGETHER.

AND I JUST REALLY LOVE THIS GROUP BECAUSE THEY'VE REALLY PULLED TOGETHER, MR. MAYOR, IN ORDER TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ALL OF DART AS IS THEIR DUTY WHEN THEY GET SWORN IN.

AND I WILL BE DEFINITELY SUPPORTING THIS. IT WAS PASSED DO UNANIMOUSLY BY THE MEMBERS THAT WERE PRESENT AT THE MEETING AND AS RECOMMENDED, WHAT I JUST READ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK INTERVIEWING MAYOR PRO TEM.

YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I ALSO WANT TO THANK RHONDA BRYANT FOR VICE CHAIR OF THE BOARD.

ALSO, THANK HIM, EVEN THOUGH HE DID NOT SHOW IN PERSON.

BUT HE DID SHOW TIME UP IN DC DOING ALL THE WORK THAT HE NEEDED TO DO FOR DARK.

BUT ALSO I WANT TO THANK HIM ALSO FOR ALL THE WORK HE DID DOWN IN AUSTIN WITH THE DART BOARD, ALSO WITH THE LEGISLATION THIS YEAR. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE FIRST TIME, MORRIS WEST, WHO JUST GOT APPOINTED TO THE DART BOARD AND HOPE HE WOULD BRING SOME NEW IDEAS AND FRESH DEDICATION TO THE DART BOARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MORRIS, FOR HELPING THIS PROCESS ALONG.

THIS IS A VERY CRITICAL PROCESS. I DO WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU AS WELL TO OUR VICE CHAIR OF THE DART BOARD AND DALLAS APPOINTEE,

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YOU FOUGHT HARD FOR THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS, SPECIFICALLY SOUTHERN DALLAS, WHO WOULD BE GREATLY IMPACTED.

SEEING THIS SLATE IS EXTREMELY HOPEFUL ON WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME GOOD FIGHTERS IN THERE. AND I WILL SAY THAT I COULDN'T LET YOU BE THE BEST DRESSED, SO I DID HAPPILY PUT UP ROY LOPEZ TO GIVE YOU A RUN FOR YOUR MONEY AT THOSE DART BOARD MEETINGS.

SO THANK YOU. MAYOR FOR ENTERTAINING JEREMY GRACEY YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AND I WON'T BE LONG. I JUST TO WANT TO SAY THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT ABOUT THIS DART BOARD.

AND AGAIN, RANDALL, THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE LEADERSHIP YOU'VE SHOWN SINCE BEING APPOINTED TO THE BOARD.

AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE DYNAMICS THAT WILL COME AS A RESULT OF OF THIS NEW BOARD AND HOW WE COMMUNICATE AS A COUNCIL AND AS A BOARD AND ABLE TO CONTINUE MOVING THINGS FORWARD AND SHOWING US A SOLID FRONT OF TOGETHERNESS AND UNITY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 49? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

AGENDA ITEM 50 AUTHORIZE THE ENDORSEMENT OF DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ADAM BAZALDUA AS THE CITY'S CANDIDATE FOR THE 2026 NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES BOARD OF

[50. Authorize the endorsement of Deputy Mayor Pro Tem Adam Bazaldua as the City's candidate for the 2026 National League of Cities Board of Directors - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. CONGRATULATIONS, MR.

[CLOSED SESSION]

ON MAY 28TH, 2025. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551 .071, IN THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MANNER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 51 AND UNDER SECTION 551 .074 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MANNER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 52.

WITH THAT, WE STAND AT RECESS. WE'RE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION UNTIL 1 P.M..

THANKS. ALRIGHT. CITY COUNCIL MINUTES COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION OR SECTIONS FIVE, 51.071 AND 551 .074 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

AND AT 1:42 P.M. ON MAY 28TH, 2025. WE HAVE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION, MADAM SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL PICK BACK UP ON YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 53.

ITEM 53. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL MEMBER, SIR. SHE.

ONE SECOND, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION FOR FF TWO.

WHEN IT'S TIME, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM.

[54. A resolution (1) authorizing an increase in the joint election agreement and election services contract between the City of Dallas, Dallas County, and various other jurisdictions within Dallas County, for the conduct of a runoff election to be held Saturday, June 7, 2025; and (2) an increase in appropriations in an amount not to exceed $412,936.00 in the City Secretary’s Office from General Fund Contingency Reserve - Not to exceed $412,935.50, from $1,033,010.75 to $1,445,946.25 - Financing: General Fund Contingency Reserve (see Fiscal Information)]

I'M LOOKING FOR. I HEARD A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MEMBERS. WE TOOK THE ITEMS OUT OF ORDER.

WE'RE ON ITEM 54. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. MR. MAYOR WE'LL HOLD 53.

CAN WE MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA? I'M WAITING.

LET'S DO THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA REAL QUICK WHILE WE WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO COME AND LAY OUT 53 FOR US.

ONE SECOND, MR. MAYOR. WE'RE TAKING ITEMS SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER, TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE

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WE ARE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE MOVING ON.

THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING ELSE TO MOVE ON TO EXCEPT FOR ZONING. OTHER.

[53. Receive the report of the Ad Hoc City Council Canvassing Committee and adopt a resolution and order accepting the canvassing committee's report declaring the amended results of the Saturday, May 3, 2025 general election for Place 6 based on the manual recount, per Texas Election Code 213.033 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City25-1915A]

MR. MAYOR, AGENDA ITEM 53 RECEIVED THE REPORT OF THE AD HOC CANVAS CITY COUNCIL CANVASING COMMITTEE AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION IN ORDER ACCEPTING THE CANVASING COMMITTEE'S REPORT DECLARING THE AMENDED RESULTS OF THE SATURDAY, MAY 3RD, 2025 GENERAL ELECTION FOR PLACE SIX BASED ON THE MANUAL RECOUNT PROTECTS, PER TEXAS ELECTION CODE 213.003. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MORENO YOU RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION IN ORDER ACCEPTING THE CANVASING COMMITTEE'S REPORT DECLARING THE AMENDED RESULTS OF THE SATURDAY, MAY 3RD, 2025 GENERAL ELECTION FOR PLACE SIX BASED ON THE MANUAL RECOUNT.

I HEARD A SECOND, I THINK, FROM OVER HERE, MADAM SECRETARY. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, MR. MAYOR. MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 53.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO COMMEND AND THANK OUR CITY SECRETARY AND THE COUNTY FOR THE THE THE PROCESS BETWEEN THE MANUAL RECOUNT AND THE ELECTRONIC WAS .23 6%.

SO I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE CREDIBILITY AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF OUR ELECTION.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 53.

YES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I WAS THIS IS A PROCESS QUESTION WAS LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO WHENEVER WE VOTED THERE WAS A WHOLE REALLY LONG MOTION THAT WAS MADE.

AND THIS TIME IT'S WHAT I'M USED TO, WHICH IS A VERY SHORT MOTION.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MOTION THAT WAS READ LAST TIME VERSUS THIS TIME, WHERE IT WAS LIKE THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE REPORT, AND THIS TIME IT'S NO COMMITTEE REPORT? JESSE MORENO IS MORE SUCCINCT.

I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT DIRECTED AT ME OR WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF THIS? SO THAT'S FROM OUR OFFICE CHAIR WASN'T HERE. SO.

SO I'LL LET THE CITY SECRETARY RESPOND TO THAT.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ, TRADITIONALLY, THE LONG STATEMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD FOR RECORDING PURPOSES AS PRACTICED BY OUR OFFICE. SO AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT THAT ITEM WILL HAVE THE RESULTS DOCUMENTED ON THE RECORD, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO INTO THE CANVASING REPORT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN DONE SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS OFFICE SINCE 2012, WHERE WE JUST PUT THE RESULTS WITHIN THE MOTION.

HOWEVER, IT IS NOT REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS ELECTION CODE.

IT'S NOT YOU CAN'T JUST ADOPT THE REPORT. THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PRACTICE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE LAST TIME WAS I'VE DONE THIS A FEW TIMES NOW THAT WE'VE READ THE WHOLE REPORT AS THE MOTION.

SO SINCE NOBODY DECIDED TO READ THE RESOLUTION, I'M GOING TO DO THAT WITH MY TIME.

NOW, AT THIS POINT TO THE HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS THE REPORT OF CANVASING COMMITTEE RESOLUTION AND ORDER APPROVING REPORT MAY 28TH, 2025. THE CHAIR IS COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

THE MEMBERS ARE MR. MORENO AND MR. GRACEY TO THE HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

WE, THE UNDERSIGNED, YOUR COMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, APPOINTED ON FEBRUARY 26TH, 2025, THE CANVAS TO CANVAS. THE RETURNS OF THE RUNOFF ELECTION HELD IN THE CITY OF DALLAS ON SATURDAY, MAY 3RD, 2025, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING 14 MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

HEREBY REPORT THAT WE HAVE CAREFULLY CANVASED THE RETURNS OF THE RECOUNT FOR PLACE SIX AND WE SUBMIT THE TABULATED STATEMENT OF THE VOTES RECEIVED BY THE RESPECTIVE CANDIDATES ATTACHED HERETO AS EXHIBIT A ON THE BASIS OF THE STATEMENT OF RETURNS, THE RECOUNT. IT APPEARS THE CANDIDATES RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING NUMBER OF VOTES AND THIS RECOUNT AND THEN ORIGINAL DAVID BLEWETT 106.

ORIGINAL 106 MONICA R ALONSO 533. ORIGINAL 535 GABRIEL KISSINGER 23.

ORIGINAL 23. TONY CARRILLO 21. ORIGINAL 21. LAURA CADENA 1066.

ORIGINAL 1065 MICHELLE WELLS 200. ORIGINAL 201 NICOLAS NICO QUINTANILLA 21.

ORIGINAL 21. LINUS SPILLER 138. ORIGINAL 137.

WRITING CANDIDATE THREE. ORIGINAL THREE. IT APPEARS THAT LAURA CADENA, CANDIDATE FOR PLACE SIX, RECEIVED A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES CAST AT THE ELECTION OF THE REPRESENTATIVE PLACE, AND IT WAS SIGNED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARA,

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AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT DID GET READ INTO THE RECORD LIKE IT WAS LAST WEEK.

AND CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WINNERS THAT ARE FROM BEFORE AND ESPECIALLY FOR DOING THE RECOUNT.

AND THANK YOU, MADAM CITY SECRETARY, FOR DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.

I HEARD LOTS OF REPORTS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT YOU REALLY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB DURING THAT THOSE THREE DAYS.

SO I WANTED TO THANK YOU. AND LET'S MOVE THIS FORWARD BECAUSE THERE'LL BE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S FOR A DIFFERENT TOPIC ON THE ELECTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. ONCE AGAIN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 53.

THANK YOU. I'D JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT THE MOTION WAS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THE COMMITTEE, MEANING IT'S WHAT WAS PREPARED BY THE CITY SECRETARY OR PREPARED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SORRY, I WASN'T HERE TO PROVIDE IT. MAYOR, YOU GOT STARTED A LITTLE BIT QUICKER, AND I NEED TO USE THE RESTROOM, SO THANK YOU, CHAIR MORENO, FOR TAKING OVER AND READING THE MOTION PREPARED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY IN THIS CASE.

I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT OUR ELECTIONS ADMINISTRATOR WHO OVERSAW THE RECOUNT JOINED US FOR THE MEETING.

WE ALSO EXPRESSED OUR APPRECIATION FOR HIS EXCELLENT WORK, NOT JUST IN THE RECOUNT, BUT REALLY IN MANAGING THE ENTIRE ELECTION PROCESS, WHICH THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I CAN RECALL SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD VERY SIGNIFICANT AND ALARMING ISSUES WITH DALLAS COUNTY RUNNING THE ELECTIONS.

SO HE'S TO DEFINITELY BE PRAISED FOR THAT GOOD WORK.

IT'S HIS FIRST ELECTION WITH US. AND SO I THINK THAT SHOULD GIVE US GOOD CONFIDENCE GOING INTO OUR NEXT NOVEMBER ELECTION.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 53? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA, BEGINNING WITH YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

ITEM Z ONE WAS DELETED. ITEM Z THREE HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

ITEM Z FOUR HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, AND ITEM Z SIX HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS AND I'M SORRY, ITEM Z1 WAS DELETED.

THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS Z2, Z5 AND Z7.

I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD. ITEM Z2 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN MU ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF GROVE CREST DRIVE, WEST OF CONNOR DRIVE.

ITEM Z5 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 815 ON THE NORTH LINE OF NORTHWEST HIGHWAY BETWEEN INWOOD ROAD AND MEADOWBROOK DRIVE, AND ITEM Z SEVEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING THE RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1653 FOR A POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE INDUSTRIAL OUTSIDE USE, LIMITED TO WOOD OR LUMBER PROCESSING ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF MAGNOLIA DRIVE, EAST OF SPANGLER ROAD.

YOU DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON A FEW OF YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM Z TWO, ROBERT REEVES.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. YOU MAY BEGIN.

THERE'S A MICROPHONE BUTTON. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF THAT MICROPHONE.

HOW'S THAT? YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ROBERT REEVES, 3807 VINE CREST DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

AND I'M A ZONING CONSULTANT REPRESENTING THE BANK OF AMERICA ON A REQUEST FOR A MIXED USE ONE DISTRICT FOR AN EXISTING PARKING LOT THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED R 7.5 AND IS LOCATED AT 8115 GROVE CREST DRIVE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE.

A PARKING LOT IS PROHIBITED BY THE CURRENT ZONING, BUT IT IS ALLOWED IN A MIXED USE ONE DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING. THIS PARKING LOT WAS PAVED IN THE EARLY 1950S BY THE FORMER FORMER GROVE STATE BANK, WHICH WAS LOCATED AT 1510 SOUTH BUCKNER.

THE LOT WAS USED FOR PARKING AND STACKING LANES FOR REMOTE, REMOTE DRIVE THRU WINDOWS, WHICH WERE LOCATED ACROSS THE ALLEY BEHIND THE

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THE PARKING LOT, LOCATED AT 8115 GROVE CREST, REMAINS UNDER BANK OF AMERICA'S OWNERSHIP.

WHICH. EXCUSE ME. YEAH. GROVE CREST. REMAINS UNDER BANK OF AMERICA OWNERSHIP.

WE REPLACE THE OLD GROVE STATE BANK. BANK OF AMERICA USES THE LOT NOW FOR CUSTOMER AND EMPLOYEE PARKING.

BOTH THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION AND THE CITY STAFF HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR A MIXED USE ONE DISTRICT.

THERE WAS NO OPPOSITION AT THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WILL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM Z5.

STEVEN DIMMITT.

STEVEN DIMMITT, 1201 NORTH RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD.

REPRESENT THE APPLICANT. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS WHO'LL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM Z7 FIRST SPEAKER TIMOTHY DICKEY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. TIM DICKEY 3134 LOCHMOOR LANE.

I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THESE POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE USES THAT'S NEXT TO OUR MONEYGRAM SOCCER PARK.

THIS ONE, IN FACT, IS LESS THAN 300FT FROM THE MONEYGRAM SOCCER PARK.

AND IT INVOLVES AN SUP FOR POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE BECAUSE IT'S OFF GASSING, THE OFF GASSING OF THIS COMPOSTING, WHICH IS A GOOD USE. BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S JUST NOT COMPATIBLE WITH OUR SOCCER FIELDS.

NOW THIS HAS SUP HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2007.

SO THERE'S BEEN 23 YEARS FOR THIS APPLICANT TO AMORTIZE THEIR INVESTMENT AND IN THE BIG PICTURE, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THE THE NARRATIVE IS IT'S TIME TO RECONSIDER THE WAY WE'RE APPROVING THESE INCOMPATIBLE USES NEAR OUR PARK PROPERTIES.

AND ONE BIT OF CLARIFICATION ON THIS. THE CASE REPORT STATES THAT THE REQUESTED USE PREDATES THE NOW ESTABLISHED MONEYGRAM SOCCER PARK.

AND THIS GETS KIND OF THIS CHICKEN OR THE EGG QUESTION THAT'S COME UP ABOUT WHAT CAME FIRST, THE PARKS OR THE INDUSTRIAL USES. WELL THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING WAS THERE AND THINGS LIKE WAREHOUSES, INDOOR MANUFACTURING, EVEN TRUCK STORAGE THAT WE SEE OUT THERE NOW.

THOSE ARE COMPATIBLE WITH PARKS. BUT THESE SUB FOR THESE USES THAT INVOLVE AIR QUALITY, I SAY ARE INCOMPATIBLE.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE TIMING, THIS SUP CAME IN IN 2007.

WELL MONEYGRAM WOULD THEY SAY THAT MONEYGRAM DIDN'T COME IN WASN'T BUILT UNTIL 2012.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE INTENT OF THE CITY AND THE VOTERS, HERE'S A HERE'S A REPORT, ELM FORK ATHLETIC COMPLEX PROJECT UPDATE, APRIL 16TH, 2007. SO THE PLANNING FOR MONEYGRAM WAS WELL, WELL ADVANCED BEFORE THE PLANTS CAME IN.

AND IN TERMS OF THE BIG PICTURE, WHAT THE VOTERS AND THE COUNCIL WANTED, THE FUNDING FOR MONEYGRAM, HERE'S 1998 BONDS, $13.3 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR THIS SOCCER FACILITY BACK IN 98.

SO IT'S BEEN STATED THAT THESE PLANTS WERE BEFORE THE PARKS, BUT IT'S JUST NOT TRUE, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE INTENTION OF THE CITY TO PUT OUR OUR OUTDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITIES THERE.

THE PLANTS CAME LATER AND IT'S JUST I BELIEVE I MAINTAIN IT'S TIME TO CHANGE DIRECTIONS BECAUSE THE CONSIDERATIONS ALWAYS BEEN FOR THE LAND USE, THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY. BUT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND I UNDERSTAND HOW IT HAPPENED, BUT THEY NEVER CONSIDERED THE PARK'S MONEYGRAM.

WE'VE GOT LAST YEAR WE HAD 92,000 PEOPLE THERE AND THE WINDS ARE PREVAILING WINDS.

11 MONTHS OF THE YEAR ARE FROM THE SOUTH. THE WIND IS BLOWING TOWARD THE PARK AND THAT'S REALLY AN IMPORTANT FACTOR TO CONSIDER.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. CATHERINE GUERRA. HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON, CATHERINE GUERRA, DISTRICT NINE. I'M HERE AS THE CHAIR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION. THIS IS A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE, JUST LIKE THE ONE WE WERE DISCUSSING AT OUR LAST MEETING.

AND WE'LL CONTINUE DISCUSSING ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT'S NEXT DOOR.

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SO WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS USE FOR THE SAME REASON THAT WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE CONCRETE BATCH PLANT.

THIS IS A PARK POLLUTION USER SAFETY ISSUE. THE BIGGEST QUESTION THAT I HEARD DURING THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THIS AREA IS SUPPOSED TO BE RECREATIONAL OR INDUSTRIAL, BUT HISTORY TELLS US WHAT THE INTENDED LAND USE OF THIS AREA WAS, AND THE CITY'S ACTIONS HAVE BEEN CLEAR. VOTERS OVER THREE BOND ELECTIONS IN 1998, 2003 AND 2006 TOLD US THEY WANT THIS AREA TO BE PARK SPACE AND TO INVEST $31 MILLION TO MAKE IT SO. THE CITY IDENTIFIED THIS SOCCER COMPLEX AS A HIGH PRIORITY NEED.

SO IN 2007, THE CITY ACQUIRED AND DOWN ZONED 140 ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL LANDFILL.

IN 2011 AND 12, THE CITY DENIED TWO SEPARATE APPLICATIONS FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ROCK CRUSHING FACILITIES NEXT TO THIS PARK, AND IN 2013 DENIED THE APPLICATION OF TRINITY EAST FOR GAS DRILL DRILL SITES AND A GAS PROCESSING PLANT NEXT TO THIS SOCCER FIELD.

THAT PARK OPENED IN 2014. IT USED RECYCLED MATERIALS IN ITS CONSTRUCTION, REUSE OF WASTEWATER BIOSWALES FOR STORMWATER EXCEPTIONALLY DESIGNED, AND IT WON THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE EXCELLENCE AWARD IN 2017.

IT EARNED PROFESSIONAL SOCCER FIELD OF THE YEAR BEST SOCCER FIELD IN THE US IN 2018.

AND IT'S NOT JUST AWARDS. EVERY YEAR, THIS PARK BRINGS 550,000 YOUNG ATHLETES AND THEIR FAMILIES TO PLAY AN INTERNATIONAL AND NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS. THOSE NUMBERS ARE FOR THE DALLAS SPORTS COMMISSION. THAT'S ESTIMATED BETWEEN 50, 40 AND $50 MILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR OUR CITY EVERY YEAR.

LIKE TIM SAID, TO ANSWER THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG QUESTION, SEVEN OF THOSE EIGHT NEARBY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES CAME IN THE YEAR 2012 OR AFTER THIS PARK WAS BEGUN TO DEVELOP IN THE YEAR 2000. INDUSTRY HAS PROLIFERATED IN THIS AREA BECAUSE FOR ALL OF THAT TIME THE CITY'S ZONING CODE WAS NOT AMENDED UNTIL 2022.

THOSE USES WERE BY RIGHT. THIS COUNCIL DID NOT HAVE ANY SAY THE PREVIOUS COUNCILS DID NOT HAVE ANY SAY.

THE COMMUNITY DID NOT HAVE ANY SAY. BUT NOW WE DO.

THIS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE IS SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE PARK.

PLEASE VOTE NOT TO RENEW. THANK YOU. MAYOR, MAY I BE RECOGNIZED? FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I'D LIKE TO REMOVE Z7 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE.

AND REQUEST A RECORD VOTE ON IT. IS IT? SO WE'RE STILL HEARING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ITEM AND IT WAS POSTED. SO WE HAVE TO LET THEM FINISH THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND THERE'S NO MOTION AT THIS POINT TO, TO REMOVE IT. THERE'S NO THERE HASN'T BEEN THERE'S NO MOTION TO, TO REMOVE OR ACT ON.

THERE'S NOTHING BEFORE US YET. AT WHAT POINT WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO MAKE THAT MOTION? I'LL FIND OUT.

WHERE? THEY.

IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO FIGURE IT OUT.

AND.

WELL, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW IS THAT AFTER WE'VE HEARD ALL THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM IS, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE MOTIONS ARE THAT ARE MADE BY MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE ALL THE MOTIONS THAT ARE STANDARD WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME.

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ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE MOTIONS AT THAT TIME.

BUT AT THIS POINT, UNDER THE LAW, WE HAVE TO LET THE SPEAKERS FINISH WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM, WHETHER WE ACTUALLY DISPOSE OF IT OR NOT TODAY.

SO SO I THINK THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME WOULD BE AFTER THE SPEAKERS, IF THAT'S THE MOTION THAT IS THAT IS MADE AND RECOGNIZED, UNLESS THERE'S OTHER MOTIONS THAT TRUMPET THAT ARE MADE AGAIN AS A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

IT IS THE SOLE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR TO ALLOW THE ITEM TO BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT IT'S THAT'S NOT MY SOLE DISCRETION.

I THINK THE BODY WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO HAVE IT REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THAT POINT.

IF IF THERE WAS A MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM CONSENT, THAT THAT'S ACCURATE, THAT IT'S NOT A CHAIR'S DECISION, THAT IT'S A BODY'S DECISION.

I COULD, IN THEORY, I SUPPOSE. I MEAN, I, I HAVE VERIFIED ON ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER THAT IT IS GENERALLY ACCEPTABLE THAT IT'S THE CHAIR THAT MAKES THAT DECISION. I'LL TAKE THAT. THANK YOU.

I'LL ACCEPT THAT RESPONSIBILITY, IF THAT. IF IT IS. IN FACT, THE PARLIAMENTARIAN TOLD ME THAT, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO CHATGPT. YEAH. THAT IT'S PERMISSIBLE FOR ME TO MAKE THAT THAT DECISION UNILATERALLY.

SO I WILL MAKE IT. I DON'T HAVE MY BOOK AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU CAN'T TRUST CHATGPT, BY THE WAY.

YOUR NEXT SPEAKER ON ITEM Z7, WILL GARRETT BOONE HAS CANCELED YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, BRENDA PROCTOR.

THERE'S A BUTTON. THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO. OKAY.

PERFECT. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR JOHNSON.

MAYOR PRO TEM, OUR CITY MANAGER, MISS KIMBERLY TOLBERT, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.

MY NAME IS BRANT PROCTOR. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE REGIONAL BLACK CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION.

WE'RE ON 2627 MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD.

ALL RIGHT, SO TODAY I'LL BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ONE OF THE BCA MEMBERS MR. BJ JOHNSON. HE'S THE OWNER OF J. IMPERIUM, LLC.

REGARDING REGARDING THE ZONING CASE, Z 234 328 AND FIRST, BEFORE I BEGIN MY STATEMENTS, I DO WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF MISS THERESA BLUE FOR SUPPORTING MR. JOHNSON AND J. IMPERIUM JUST ON THIS JOURNEY, TRYING TO ASSIST US WITH THIS MATTER.

SO WE'VE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED STIPULATIONS. I'M SORRY, MISS PROCTOR.

I'M SORRY. WHICH ITEM ARE YOU SPEAKING ON? IS IT C7 OR Z8? SO WE'RE UNDER AGENDA ITEM C7. YES. SORRY. I THINK SHE JUST REFERENCED IT.

OKAY, OKAY, OKAY I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE SIGNED UP UNDERNEATH THE WRONG ONE.

YES. SO IT WILL BE C8. OKAY. SHOULD I CONTINUE OR WAIT? NO. YOU NEED TO WAIT UNTIL Z8. BUT YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.

PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? ITEMS THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD ITEM Z2, Z5 AND Z7.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY.

LET'S TAKE Z7 AND PUT IT ON THE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION UNDER ZONING.

WE'LL CONSIDER INDIVIDUALLY. THANK THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THEREFORE, LET ME RESTATE YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA WILL CONSIST OF ITEMS Z TWO AND Z FIVE.

THOSE ARE YOUR ITEMS. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT. SO Z SEVEN IS NOW GOING TO BE TAKEN UP WITH THE OTHER ZONING ITEMS INDIVIDUALLY.

THAT IS CORRECT. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST INDIVIDUAL ZONING ITEM ITEM Z THREE.

MAYOR FOR WHAT PURPOSE. I JUST ASK IF WE COULD HOLD Z EIGHT FOR LATER INTO THE MEETING, PLEASE.

LIKE LATER. LATER? LIKE. YEAH, LIKE JUST LATER.

LIKE JUST LATER. LIKE JUST NOT IN ORDER. YES.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHEN WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE BEFORE THE JUST RIGHT BEFORE THE.

ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

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OKAY, LET ME GO BACK TO. ALL RIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY.

JUST SO EVERYONE WON'T BE SURPRISED, GO AHEAD AND READ THE NEW ORDER ON THE ZONING ITEMS. IN TERMS OF WHAT ORDER? WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THEM UP SO EVERYONE WILL KNOW. THANK YOU.

WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT SECRETLY JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME.

HERE WE GO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR ZONING ITEMS WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FOLLOWS Z3Z FOR Z6, Z7, Z9, AND Z8, MEANING YOUR ZONING ITEM WILL BE. THE Z8 WILL BE THE LAST ZONING ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

EVERYBODY HEAR THAT? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE'RE OFF TO THE RACES.

ZONING. LET'S GO. LET'S DO IT. ITEM Z3 IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

[Z3. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for (1) an ordinance granting a new subdistrict on property zoned Subdistrict B within Planned Development District No. 468, the Oak Cliff Gateway Special Purpose District; and (2) and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a boutique hotel on the west line of North Zang Boulevard, between West Canty Street and West Neely Street]

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 108 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED NINE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND 15 REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

THANK YOU. YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PAM CONNOLLY.

WHO KEEPS A FORM FOR CHAD FOR THE NEXT ONE? YOUR MICROPHONE. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF THAT MICROPHONE THERE.

OH THANK YOU, PAM CONLEY. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST.

YOU KNOW, I'M DOWN HERE AT CITY HALL QUITE A BIT, AND THE CONVERSATION THAT I HEAR IS HOUSING OUR LACK OF HOUSING.

WE NEED MORE HOUSING. THIS REQUEST IS TO TAKE THIS PROPERTY OUT OF RESIDENTIAL AND PUT IT INTO NONRESIDENTIAL. SO ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR HOUSING? ARE YOU GOING TO VOTE FOR HOTEL? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS BOILS DOWN TO.

THE PAPERS THAT I HANDED OUT TO YOU, THE COVER.

HAS THE BACKUP MATERIAL FOR WHAT I'M SAYING BEHIND IT.

IN 1998, A SINGLE HOUSE, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE WAS BUILT ON NORTH ZANE IN 2021.

THE APPLICANT BOUGHT THAT HOUSE. NOW, IN OUR THINKING, THAT'S A RELATIVELY NEW HOUSE AND SO WE'RE TAKING THIS SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND 2022. YOU SEE A PICTURE OF THE HOUSE.

NICE BRICK, THREE BEDROOM HOME IN 2023. THE APPLICANT.

GOT A PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE. SO WE'RE DEMOLISHING THE HOUSE IN ORDER TO GET A CHANGE IN ZONING.

TO BOUTIQUE HOTEL. AND THEN HE CHANGES THE DEFINITION OF BOUTIQUE HOTEL TO MATCH WHAT HE'S DOING AT 727 NORTH, SAYING.

SEVEN 727 WAS BUILT IN A ZONING W THREE WALKABLE RESIDENTIAL.

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AND THE DEFINITION OF BOUTIQUE HOTEL IS CHANGED.

SO IT IS NOT REALLY A BOUTIQUE HOTEL. IT'S CHANGING THE NUMBER OF ROOMS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN BOUTIQUE HOTEL FROM WHAT, 30 TO 40? IT'S CHANGING THE ENTRANCES. BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

HALF OF IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ENTERED FROM THE INTERIOR.

THIS IS ALL EXTERIOR ENTRY. NOW, THE LAST THING ON HERE IS 726 ELLSWORTH, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO DIRECTLY WITH THIS CASE. IT'S FOR THE APPLICANT. HAS PURCHASED A HOUSE BEHIND THE HOUSES ON THIS TRANSFER, WHICH INDICATES IT'S GOING TO BE MOVING INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PROBABLY A SINGLE REQUEST LATER.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I DO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM ITEM? SEE THREE SPEAKER COMING FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

SO YOU HAVE THE HANDOUT AND I ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME GET THAT LOADED.

ANYBODY WORKING ON THAT WHOLE VISUAL AID THING OR WHAT'S GOING ON.

I'M GOING TO GIVE IT A COUPLE OF SECONDS, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YOU GOT TO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF I HAVE TO. YEAH.

I THINK THAT WHILE YOU'RE WAITING, I APOLOGIZE IF.

OKAY. CAN YOU MOVE FASTER? CAN YOU CAN YOU GET ON THAT? YEAH. THERE WAS A THE PRESENTATION WAS EMAILED TO YOU GUYS YESTERDAY.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND GO ON WITH THAT.

I'M SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT IS OKAY. THAT'S WHY I PRINTED IT OUT JUST IN CASE.

OKAY. AUDRA BUCKLEY, 1414 BELLEVUE STREET, SUITE 150, DALLAS, TEXAS 75215.

REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAS LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR 25 YEARS.

THIS SUBJECT SITE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN Z3 IS A MULTI LEASE MULTI TENANT TYPE PROPERTY.

HISTORICALLY THIS HAS BEEN RENTED AS DAILY, WEEKLY, MONTHLY AND ANNUALLY.

RIGHT NOW 50% OF THE EXISTING UNITS IN THE EXISTING BUILDING IS LONG TERM OVER A YEAR.

AND BASICALLY WHAT CAME DOWN TO WAS THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER ACTUALLY SAW A NEED FOR A HOTEL IN THIS AREA.

A COUPLE OF HOTELS. AND BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN BISHOP ARTS HAS BEEN NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS AN AREA FOR TOURISM.

THERE'S AN INSUFFICIENT SUPPLY OF HOTELS IN THIS AREA.

SO THERE IS A DEFINITE NEED FOR THIS LAND USE.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 28 UNITS IN PHASE ONE WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING ANOTHER 12 IN PHASE TWO.

LET ME GET PAST MY PICTURES AND SOME OF THE CHANGES.

MISS CONLEY READ INTO THE RECORD ALREADY. AS FAR AS ALLOWING KITCHENS IN THE GUEST ROOMS 100%.

PERCENT EXTERNAL ENTRY. AND THE RENTALS MAY BE DAILY, WEEKLY, MONTHLY, OR ANNUALLY.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME SUPPORT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HANDOUTS THAT I SENT YOU.

THE PROPERTY OWNER ACROSS THE STREET IS IN A WMU EIGHT.

OWNS THE MAJORITY OF THAT BLOCK. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT'S GREEN THERE, VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT.

THAT WAY, THEIR THEIR RESIDENTS WILL HAVE SOME PLACE FOR THEIR VISITORS TO STAY WHEN THEY COME TO VISIT.

SO THEY WERE ALL FOR THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS TO BRING TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION IS ALL OF THE MAINTENANCE, SECURITY AND DOMESTIC SERVICE THAT IS USED BY THIS APPLICANT IS ALL PAYROLL.

THIS IS NOTHING OUTSOURCED. SO THEY'RE ALSO PROVIDING JOBS HERE.

THE ENFORCED QUIET HOURS FROM 10 TO 7 ARE ALSO THERE.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THEIR CRIME STATS. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY REALLY TO SPEAK OF.

THE ONLY ISSUES THAT WE EVER SAW, THERE WERE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT NOISE FROM INSIDE.

IF SOMEBODY'S MOVING IN OR A DOOR ON A UTILITY BOX BANGING AROUND.

I THINK BACK DURING COVID THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ISSUES, BUT NOTHING BEING GENERATED FROM OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY.

AND THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR THIS OPERATOR. ONE OF THE BIG BENEFITS OF A BOUTIQUE HOTEL HERE IS YOU GET THE PERSONALIZED EXPERIENCE.

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AND THAT IS WHAT THIS IS. BOUTIQUE IMPLIES SMALL, IT IMPLIES LOCAL, AND IT IMPLIES INDEPENDENT.

AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST THIS BISHOP TO AFFORD THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOME CONTROL WHERE THEY HAVE NO CONTROL AT THIS POINT.

AND AT THIS, AT THIS JUNCTURE, I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST BECAUSE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THIS POINT.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z THREE? I SEE ONE MORE SPEAKER COMING FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

HI, MY NAME IS JIM KLOPCIC. I LIVE AT 720 ELLSWORTH STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 75208.

THAT'S THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

ON THE BACKSIDE. I THANKS FOR HEARING ME. I THINK THAT THIS APPLICATION IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH JUST IN GENERAL, OUR COMMUNITY AND AREA, MY PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR AND MY NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH WITH THE EXPANSION, THIS SECOND AREA THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT CURRENTLY, THERE IS NO ALLEYWAY BETWEEN MY PROPERTY AND THIS POTENTIAL HOTEL AND I AND IT HAPPENS TO HAVE IT MAXIMIZES ITS HEIGHT AT THIS POINT AND CREATES A LOT OF SPACE WHERE THE ANYONE WHO'S VISITING THE HOTEL CAN JUST VISIBLY SEE INTO MY BACKYARD, THE BACK ROOMS OF MY HOUSE MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD.

MY NEIGHBORS HAVE, IN FACT, HAD A SHORT DISPUTE WITH THE THE APPLICANT WHEN IN THE DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY ON ZANG THAT OLD HOUSE OR NEWER HOUSE BECAUSE THE APPLICANT WENT AND DEMOLISHED THEIR BACK FENCE WITH LITTLE RECOGNITION TO THEM.

IN GENERAL, I, I THINK THAT LIKE, I'VE, I'M PRETTY NEW TO THIS COMMUNITY AND I'VE JOINED THE I'M THE, I GUESS. NO, I'M THE TREASURER ON THE KIDD SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AND I THINK THAT OUR COMMUNITY TOOK A LOT OF HITS FROM COVID.

THERE'S A LOT OF FRACTURING, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO COME TOGETHER AND REALLY, LIKE, BUILD NEIGHBORHOOD COHESION. AND IT'S KIND OF SAD THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS WHAT'S BRINGING SOME OF US TOGETHER TO SAY THAT, HEY, THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO COME IN AND BUILD A HOTEL AND BUILD INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT'S WHAT'S BRINGING US TOGETHER. THERE'S PLACES FOR HOTELS.

I KNOW, I KNOW THAT SOUTH OF DAVIS, THERE'S BEEN ZONING CHANGES TO SUPPORT BISHOP ARTS WITH HOTELS.

BUT PEOPLE WHO OWN PROPERTY HERE WANT TO SEE HOTELS WHERE IT'S CHEAPER BECAUSE NOW, LIKE PROPERTIES IN SOUTH OF DAVIS, WHERE HOTELS ARE PERMITTED, THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE SOMEONE WHO OWNS IT WANTS TO SELL IT FOR A HIGHER PRICE BECAUSE YOU CAN BUILD A HOTEL THERE.

THEY JUST. THIS APPLICANT WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT HE'S GOT RIGHT NOW.

BUT IN GENERAL, I THINK IT'S NOT A GOOD USE AND NOT A GOOD USE FOR NOT COMPATIBLE WITH MY AREA.

THANKS FOR HEARING ME. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS ON ITEM ONE.

MORE SPEAKER. OKAY. THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU MAY BEGIN. YOUR MICROPHONE? YES. LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON NOW.

IT'S ON. OKAY. HI. MY NAME IS LAURA PALMER. I RESIDE AT 911 NORTH MADISON AVENUE IN KIDD SPRINGS.

IF THERE WAS EVER A CASE TO BE MADE FOR ILLEGAL SPOT ZONING, THIS IS IT.

THEY ARE GRANTING THIS APPLICANT PRIVILEGED DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS THAT ARE NOT ENJOYED BY SIMILAR PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA.

THEY'RE EVEN CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF BOUTIQUE HOTEL UNDER PD 468 TO ALLOW WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY BUILT TO BE A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

OTHER OTHERS HAVE DESCRIBED WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A HOTEL. IT'S A MOTEL.

ALL OF THE ENTRIES ARE EXTERIOR. THERE ARE NO COMMUNAL AREAS.

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OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS KIDD SPRINGS. WE ARE NOT BISHOP ARTS.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS RESIDENTIAL. AS YOU WILL NOTICE, THIS CASE WAS FILED WHEN FORWARD DALLAS 2006 WAS BEFORE YOU. IT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THAT.

IT DOESN'T. LIKE I SAID, IT DOESN'T STRENGTHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT ALSO DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FOR DALLAS 2.0. WHAT YOU JUST PASSED BECAUSE IT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS OUR VISION OF DEVELOPMENT AS OUTLINED IN THIS PD.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SPENT A LOT OF TIME NEGOTIATING WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ON THE PERIMETER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. WE WANTED WALKABLE RESIDENTIAL.

WE WANT NEIGHBORS. WE DON'T WANT VISITORS IN IN THAT SECTION OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO PLEASE DENY THIS CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

THIS CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ITEM C3.

CHAIRMAN, YOU HAVE A MOTION. YES, MAYOR, I DO.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WANT TO ASK STAFF TO COME UP HERE FOR A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

HI. SO CAN YOU TELL ME HOW LONG THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN IN OPERATION? OH, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, I DON'T KNOW.

LET'S SEE OUR STAFF REPORT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE STRUCTURE WAS DEVELOPED IN 2018.

OKAY. AND IT'S BEEN OPERATING UNDER THIS SAME USE DURING THAT ENTIRE TIME AS FAR AS YOU KNOW.

RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT OPERATES AS A COMBINATION OF MULTIFAMILY FAMILY AND SOME SORT OF RENTAL.

AND THEY AND THAT'S HOW THAT'S HOW IT WAS ALL THE TIME.

OKAY. AND THIS IS ON ZANE BOULEVARD. SO IT'S AN ARTERIAL ROAD WITH A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

IT'S A MIX BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT. YES. OKAY. IS IT LOCATED CLOSE TO PUBLIC TRANSIT? OH, YES. YES. IT'S RIGHT. CLOSE TO THE STREETCAR.

THE STREETCAR? BASICALLY A BLOCK AWAY. YES. OKAY.

IT LET'S SEE. SO HOW DOES. CAN YOU SPEAK TO HOW THIS BUILDING FITS INTO THE THE FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 OVERLAY? YES. I THINK THIS EXACT LOCATION ON ZANE IS IDENTIFIED IN FOUR DALLAS.

JUST A SECOND. IS. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THE $4 2.0.

IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE AND THAT ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY AND LODGING AS PRIMARY USES.

YES. IT'S SO IT IS PART OF THE NEWEST FOR DALLAS COMMUNITY MIXED USE THAT ALLOWS BOTH MULTIFAMILY AND LOGIC USES AS AS A PRIMARY USES.

OKAY. SO THIS UNDER FOUR DALLAS 2.0 IS A COMPATIBLE USE.

YES IT IS. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES IN BISHOP ARTS DISTRICT AND ALONG JEFFERSON BOULEVARD, WHICH IS WALKABLE TO HERE AS WELL, ARE OWNED BY LOCALS.

THESE LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS TELL ME THEY RELY ON CUSTOMERS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SURVIVE AND TO CONTINUE OPERATING.

OTHER NEIGHBORS IN DISTRICT ONE ARE WORKING HARD TO CREATE AN OAK CLIFF CULTURAL DISTRICT TO SUPPORT OUR ARTS COMMUNITY, AND IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, IT'S GOING TO BRING EVEN MORE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF OAK CLIFF INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

CUSTOMERS AND TOURISTS COMING INTO NORTH OAK CLIFF MEAN THAT MORE PEOPLE AND MORE CARS ARE COMING IN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

MY NEIGHBORS HERE TODAY AND A LOT OF OTHER NEIGHBORS TELL ME WE WE DON'T WANT MORE CARS ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

AND THAT'S A PROBLEM AROUND BISHOP ART'S NEIGHBORS ALSO TELL ME THEY DON'T WANT SHORT TERM RENTALS TAKING ON OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING STOCK IN OUR SINGLE FAMILY

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SO IN SUMMARY, WE'VE GOT A SITUATION WHERE WE WANT TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS.

WE WANT TO SUPPORT OUR ARTS COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO LIMIT CARS COMING FROM OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT AND WE DON'T WANT SHORT TERM RENTALS POPPING UP IN OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. SO HOW DO WE HOW DO WE KIND OF WORK THIS OUT? IT'S BY FINDING PLACES WHERE WE CAN ALLOW FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS HOTEL USES TO EXIST.

THIS SITUATION IS A ARTERIAL ROAD AND A PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN OPERATING WITHOUT ANY COMPLAINTS TO ME THAT I'VE HEARD IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND IT'S BEEN SERVING OUR RESIDENTS, SERVING OUR SMALL BUSINESSES.

THAT ENTIRE TIME. I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORS COMING OUT AND ADVOCATING TODAY.

AND BEING CONCERNED ABOUT CONTINUED OPERATIONS.

ONE MITIGATING FACTOR THAT SHOULD HELP WITH ANY PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE IS NOW AN SUP IS BEING OFFERED.

SO THAT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE, THE SUP CAN BE ADJUSTED OR ADDRESSED AT THE CITY PLAN PLANNING COMMISSION OR HERE AT COUNCIL. IF THERE IS NO SUP OR IF WE DENY THIS TODAY, THE OPERATOR CAN CONTINUE OPERATING JUST HOW HE HAS BEEN INTO THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE UNTIL THE SHORT TERM RENTAL LITIGATION AT THE STATE LEVEL IS RESOLVED, AND THEN WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

SO I AND I WILL JUST SAY THIS SEPARATELY, LIKE I'VE I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY STAYED IN THIS SHORT TERM RENTAL, BUT I HAVE STAYED IN ONE OF THE OTHER ONES, AND I LIVED THERE FOR 51 WEEKS DURING MY HOUSE RENOVATION.

SO IT'S THIS BUILDING SERVES OUR OUR RESIDENTS VERY SIMILARLY TO HOW THE OTHER ONE DOES.

WHILE I WAS THERE DURING MY 51 WEEKS, I HAD NEIGHBORS FROM DOWN THE STREET.

THEIR PARENTS WERE STAYING IN THE UNIT NEXT TO ME.

I HAD NEIGHBORS WHO HAD FLOODING IN THEIR KITCHEN THAT STAYED THERE DURING THEIR RENOVATION FOR 2 OR 3 WEEKS.

IT IS A IT'S BENEFITING OUR NEIGHBORS INSIDE NORTH OAK CLIFF, JUST LIKE IT'S BENEFITING OUR BUSINESS OWNERS AND PEOPLE WHO RELY ON TRAFFIC AND CUSTOMERS FROM OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT, SO IT'S NOT A PERFECT SOLUTION.

I WISH I COULD SAY, HEY, THERE'S THERE'S ANOTHER PLACE WE COULD PUT A HOTEL AND IT WOULD SERVICE, SERVICE EVERYONE. BUT THIS IS A SOLUTION THAT WILL THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN THERE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO RECREATE.

AND IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE PROTECTIONS FOR NEIGHBORS IN THE FUTURE THROUGH THE SUP. SO I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT IT TODAY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ZONING ITEM Z3? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WHAT? YOU GUYS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON? DID YOU GUYS HAVE COMMENTS YOU WANTED TO MAKE? ALL RIGHT.

GUYS, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, WE'LL GO BACK AND PICK UP THE COMMENTS THAT THEY WEREN'T IN THE QUEUE.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? OKAY. HEARING NONE SO ORDERED.

CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z3.

IF STAFF CAN COME UP. AND JUST A QUESTION ABOUT PROXIMITY SLOPE.

YES. I'M HERE. WHAT IS THE QUESTION? THE QUESTION IS ABOUT PROXIMITY SLOPE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME TO SPEAK THIS AFTERNOON. CAN I GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT? I THINK UNLESS THE APPLICANT HAS SOMETHING. CAN I GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT, PLEASE? SURE. I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. IS THIS UNDER THE OAK CLIFF DEMOLITION OVERLAY? PROBABLY. WE DON'T CONSIDER THAT IN THE ZONING.

IN THE ZONING CASES. IF IT'S IN THE DEMOLITION DELAY OVERLAY, PROBABLY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND I'LL JUST WAIT FOR YOUR OTHER QUESTION.

THE OTHER ANSWER. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z3.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IS THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY A CPC MEMBER? THAT WOULD BE A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

THE OWNER AND APPLICANT, PER THE STAFF REPORT IS 7 TO 7 NORTH LLC.

DID YOU HAVE A COMMISSIONER NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM THIS? YES. BUT AS I SAID, LIKE NOT A ZONING CHANGE OR NOT A ZONING CONSIDERATION WHEN WE MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO YOU'RE NOT I WOULD DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THE CASE.

YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF WHY THEY RECUSE THEMSELVES?

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THE APPLICANT WAS A CPC MEMBER? YES. AND THAT IS WHY THEY RECUSED.

OKAY. IS IT TRUE THAT THEY TORE DOWN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO BUILD THIS PROPERTY? I KNOW THEY TORE DOWN THE ONE AT 719. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT 727.

OKAY. SO I'M NOT DONE ASKING QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

YES. SO THERE'S A YOUNG MAN THAT GAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT, AND HE SAYS HE LIVES RIGHT BEHIND THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX.

AND DO YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T FIND THAT PROBLEMATIC TO HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH HOMES RIGHT BEHIND IT WITH NO ALLEY EVEN SEPARATING THEM? SO THE REQUEST IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT IS TO ADAPTIVE REUSE, OR TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL USE TO AN EXISTING BUILDING.

IT DOES HAVE A PHASE TWO. THE EXISTING BUILDING IS ALREADY BUILT AND IT FUNCTIONS AS A MULTIFAMILY.

AND MULTIFAMILY IS ALSO AN ALLOWED USE IN THE UNDERLYING ZONING RIGHT NOW.

SO MY QUESTION IS, NOW THAT IT'S BEEN DOING THAT NOW, YOU THINK IT'S ALSO OKAY TO HAVE A HOTEL BEHIND A SINGLE FAMILY HOME? AS I SAID, THE USE ITSELF IS ALLOWED. THE MULTIFAMILY USE IS ALLOWED IN THE UNDERLYING ZONING.

IT'S A BOUTIQUE HOTEL THAT ALSO HAS AN OPTION TO BE USED AS A NORMAL MULTIFAMILY AS THEY ARE INCREASE THE PERIOD FOR RENTS AS WELL.

AND WAS THE COMMISSIONER IN PLACE WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS BUILT ORIGINALLY? I DO NOT KNOW. I DON'T THINK SO. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS OF THE BOUTIQUE HOTELS. IS THAT TRUE? SO THERE IS A DEFINITION IN THE, IN THE, IN THE PD ITSELF AND THE DEFINITION THAT'S IN THE PD.

I CAN READ IT TO YOU. WELL I GUESS I'M THE ONE THAT'S CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE DEFINITION IS.

I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT CREATING A NEW DEFINITION FOR AN ALREADY EXISTING DEFINED TERM.

THE NEW DEFINITION BASICALLY IS NOT A NEW DEFINITION.

IT ADDS ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS TO FURTHER REFINE THE USE.

OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO STOP. IS IT POSSIBLE TO ONLY USE THE ORIGINAL DEFINITION OF BOUTIQUE HOTEL AND NOT ALLOW A NEW DEFINITION TO BE CREATED. I WOULD SAY THAT WE REDEFINE ALL SORTS OF THINGS IN EVERY PD. YES WE DO. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF PD.

AND MAYBE THIS IS WHY OUR ZONING IS SO COMPLICATED.

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU. I AM HERE TO RECOMMEND AS MANY GENERAL ZONING CHANGES AS YOU WANT.

WELL, I MEAN, THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE STANDARDIZATION.

AND TO START REDEFINING WORDS IN EVERY SINGLE PD SEEMS BOTH RIDICULOUS AND BUREAUCRATIC AND VERY SPECIFIC TO THIS USE TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING TO HAPPEN HERE.

AND WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT EVEN REALLY A HOTEL USE, BUT A SHORT TERM RENTAL. AND IT FITS THE DEFINITION OF A BOUTIQUE HOTEL THAT APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE PD.

SO THIS IS NOT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE THAN THE ONE THAT'S IN THE DEFINITION OF THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

BOUTIQUE HOTELS ARE ALLOWED IN THIS PD 468, AND THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT DO HAVE THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL AS AN ALLOWED USE BY RIGHT.

WELL, AS THE CHAIRMAN RIGHTFULLY MENTIONED ABOUT SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THE LAWSUIT INVOLVED WITH THAT, THIS APPEARS TO BE JUST AN END RUN AROUND BEING ABLE TO USE IT IN THAT SAME MANNER AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY, AND AS IT CONTINUES TODAY, AND TO ALLOW IT INDEFINITELY ONCE THIS IS CREATED, EVEN WOULD MAKE A COMMENT TO SAY THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL USE, ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THE MERITS OF THE CASE, ALLOWS SHORT TERM RENTAL IN MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS.

SO IN OUR CITY, SHORT TERM RENTAL IS AN ALLOWED USE IN MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS.

AND THIS ONE AT ITS BASE, AT ITS CORE IS A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.

WHY DO YOU NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL DEFINITION OF THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL? BECAUSE THIS IS A FORM BASED CODE. AND WHEN WE APPROVED OR WE CHANGED THE BASE CODE, WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE FORM BASED CODE AS WELL.

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SO THEY WANTED TO ADD THIS ADDITIONAL USE ON THEIR PROPERTY WHICH IS ALLOWED AGAIN ELSEWHERE IN THIS PD.

IT'S NOT APPLYING ONLY TO THIS PROPERTY'S APPLYING TO OTHER AREAS IN THE PD AS WELL.

THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL USE I MEAN AND WOULD THE CHAIRMAN AGREE TO TAKE OUT THE SPECIAL DEFINITION OF BOUTIQUE HOTEL? DO YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? PLEASE RESPOND TO THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, BUT YOU MAY RESPOND TO HER QUESTION.

DO YOU WANT TO REPEAT THE QUESTION? THAT WON'T COUNT AGAINST YOUR TIME.

YOU CAN PAUSE YOUR TIME. GO AHEAD. REPEAT THE QUESTION. SINCE I INTERRUPTED THE QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU AGREE TO TAKE OUT A NEW AND SPECIAL DEFINITION FOR BOUTIQUE HOTEL WITHIN THIS ITEM? I HAVE NO IDEA. I NEED TO KNOW HOW THAT IMPACTS THE THE YOU KNOW, IT WOULD IMPACT THE PLANS.

I WOULD ASK MISS BUCKLEY TO TO ADDRESS THAT BEFORE I'D ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SO WAIT A MINUTE. SO HER ANSWER IS THAT MY TIME ALSO? OKAY. WELL, YOU HAVE LIKE 15 SECONDS THEN. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT OR NOT? YOU ARE LIKE, TAKE OUT ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS.

OH, WELL, JUST TAKE OUT ALL OF THIS. WELL, WE CAN'T TAKE OUT ALL OF THAT BECAUSE.

WHY NOT? WELL, THESE ARE ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS THAT ARE IN HERE FOR THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE KITCHENS IN A IN A BOUTIQUE HOTEL ROOM.

AND ALL OF THESE HAVE FULL KITCHENS. AND AS FAR AS THE EXTERNAL ENTRY, THAT IS PEDESTRIAN, EXTERNAL ENTRY, THERE IS A PARKING LOT. I'M SORRY. THAT'S MY TIME.

SO THIS THIS ENTIRE CASE, I GOT TO TELL YOU, DOES NOT SIT VERY WELL.

AND IT STARTS WITH THE CPC MEMBER OWNING THE PROPERTY WHO SHOULD HAVE RECUSED HIMSELF, KNOW HE SHOULD HAVE RESIGNED WAY BEFORE THIS EVER CAME TO THE TO CPC. AND. I THINK THERE'S A REASON THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS COMING OUT OPPOSED TO THIS. AND I SURE WISH THAT Y'ALL HAD WORKED IT OUT BEFORE IT CAME HERE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MISS SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ZONING ITEM Z3.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WHAT MAKES THIS MORE CHALLENGING FOR FOLKS IS THAT IT'S IT'S A FORM BASED CODE, AND MANY PEOPLE ARE USED TO HAVING VERY CLEAR USE BASED CODE.

SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY HOTEL. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.

THIS WHOLE THING THAT WAS ADOPTED BY OUR CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS PART OF TOWN WAS INTENDED FOR EXACTLY THIS KIND OF THING, WHICH ALLOWS FOR WALKABLE, MIXED USE, ALL KINDS OF USES TO TRY TO PUT THE GENIE BACK IN THE BOTTLE AND SAY, THIS IS ONLY FOR SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT ANYTHING THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL INTENDED WHEN THEY REIMAGINED THIS PART OF OAK CLIFF.

AND SO WHAT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS CASE IS, IS TO ALLOW SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY FUNCTIONING AT, IN, IN A, IN A CERTAIN WAY, TO BECOME COMPLIANT AND TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL VARIETY AND ADDITIONAL FLAVOR AND ADDITIONAL ASPECT OF OF BOTH TOURISM AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT DOESN'T EXIST NOW THROUGH THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR VISIT DALLAS AND ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN HAVE BEEN CRYING FOR IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO ENHANCE BISHOP ARTS AND TO CONTINUE TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THAT AREA. WELL, IF YOU'VE EVER VISITED AN AREA THAT'S A HIGH TOURIST DESTINATION AND THERE'S NOWHERE TO STAY, THEN IT'S REALLY HARD TO BUILD THAT OUT AS THAT KIND OF DESTINATION FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE THERE.

THE NEIGHBORS PARTICIPATED IN THE OAK CLIFF RE-IMAGINATION.

THEIR HOMES ARE NEARBY, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS, TRYING TO PRETEND THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT PART OF DALLAS THAT HAS ENCLAVES OF ONLY SOMETHING FOR MILES IS NOT THIS? SO I THINK WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO AS A COUNCIL, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN MIND.

I HAVE TO USE MY IMAGINATION. AND SO RATHER THAN NOT DOING THAT, I'M ACTUALLY TRYING TO IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, TRANSIT, MULTIFAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY AND ACTUAL CITY LIKE ENVIRONMENT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. IN ADDITION WHAT I WANT TO ALSO UNDERSTAND, AND I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD IS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT IS IT, 24 UNITS OR 24 UNITS. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OMNI.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE OF IT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, IS THIS IS A TINY LITTLE PARCEL THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS HERE IS EXCITING, IT'S ENGAGING. AND IF WE DENY THIS, IF WE SAY NO, YOU CANNOT FUNCTION LIKE THIS,

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SO I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS AND I HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z3.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I, I'D LIKE TO GET ANDREA, IF YOU COULD ANSWER A QUESTION.

IT KEEPS THIS KEEPS BEING REFERRED TO AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL.

I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE HEARD DURING THE SHORT TERM RENTAL CONVERSATION WAS IT NOT BEING MANAGED AND ESSENTIALLY BEING A FREE FOR ALL TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT FOR THOSE WHO RENT OUT THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME, WOULD WITH THIS BOUTIQUE HOTEL HAVE ON SITE MANAGEMENT.

PERFECT QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. I WOULD ASSUME SO.

COME ON DOWN, AUDREY. YES, IT DOES HAVE ON SITE MANAGEMENT.

SO WOULD YOU WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT'S UNFAIR TO CLASSIFY THIS AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL? YES I WOULD OKAY. IF I MAY ASK MR. WEST, MR. WEST, IN APPROVING THIS CASE, WAS IT YOUR INTENT TO BRING WHAT IS BEING MISCLASSIFIED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, OR WAS IT ACTUALLY YOUR INTENT TO BRING SOMETHING THAT HAS MORE GUARDRAILS AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

I'LL. I'LL ANSWER IT. I MEAN, AND THIS IS A NEW DEFINITION IN A SENSE, BECAUSE IT IS A PROPERTY THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE HOTEL TYPE USE WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY BEING READILY AVAILABLE DOWN THE STREET, I THINK IN A LOT OF CASES AND AND CONTINUE TO OFFER LONG TERM STAYS AS WELL. LIKE FOR PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO CAN STAY FOR ALMOST A YEAR.

SO PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND ANDREA, WHAT WHAT CONSTITUTES THE USE TO BE CLASSIFIED AS A HOTEL IF IT MEETS, PER OUR CODE, NOT PER STATE LAW OR WHATEVER LICENSING THEY NEED. IF IT MEETS THE DEFINITION THAT'S IN THE PD, THEN THAT'S THE THAT'S THE USE THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

AND I CAN READ THE DEFINITION IF YOU WANT ME TO.

IT MEANS A LODGING FACILITY WITH 30 OR FEWER GUEST ROOMS THAT ARE RENTED TO OCCUPANTS ON A DAILY BASIS FOR NO MORE THAN 14 CONSECUTIVE DAYS, PROVIDES FOOD THAT IS PREPARED ON SITE, AND MORE THAN 50% OF THE GUEST ROOMS ARE INTERNAL ENTRY, AND THIS SUBDISTRICT HAS ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS THAT ARE MORE.

MULTI-FAMILY LIKE KITCHENS ARE PERMITTED FOR GUEST ROOMS. INTERNAL ENTRY FOR 100% OF THE ROOMS IS PERMITTED A MINIMUM OF IT HAS A PARKING REDUCTION.

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY, AND A BOUTIQUE HOTEL MAY BE RENTED ON A DAILY, WEEKLY, MONTHLY OR ANNUAL BASIS AND IS NOT LIMITED TO 14 CONSECUTIVE DAY MAXIMUM RENTAL IN AN INTENT TO ALLOW AND CAPTURE THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT AS WELL.

SO SO THIS CHANGE WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE THIS PROPERTY IN COMPLIANCE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR NONCOMPLIANCE. I JUST I'M JUST SAYING THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR A DEFINITION OF A DIFFERENT WAY.

IF WE WERE TO TO DENY WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN FRONT OF US, WHAT THEN HAPPENS WITH THE PROPERTY, WHAT ELIGIBLE USES MULTIFAMILY AND WHATEVER IS ALLOWED? IN THE BASE ZONING BY RIGHT? YES. SO, OKAY. THEY CANNOT OPERATE A HOTEL IF THIS TODAY DOESN'T PASS.

WELL, I THINK THAT IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT IT'S LIKE MANY CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD RECENTLY, MAYOR, THAT THIS HAS BEEN MISCONSTRUED. IT'S BEEN CONFLATED INTO OTHER CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD CASE, AND IT'S ONE THAT MUCH DUE DILIGENCE HAS BEEN TAKEN.

I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS OUR JOB TO DISCUSS OTHER MATTERS OUTSIDE OF LAND USE WHEN IT COMES TO MAKING DECISIONS ON ZONING CASES PER LEGAL. SO I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR BODY TO ALSO RECOGNIZE WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z3.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, DOCTOR, FOR ALL THE ANSWERS SO FAR.

THIS WAS A VERY INTERESTING FIRST TIME CASE ON ONE OF THESE.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS. AND MR. WEST DISTRICT ONE, THANK YOU FOR BEING THE GUINEA PIG FOR THIS.

SO WHEN WE PASSED FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 I REMEMBER ONE OF THE COMPROMISES BEING THAT MAJOR CORRIDORS ADJACENT TO SINGLE

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I MEAN, WE HAVE IT ALL OVER THE CITY, BUT TIMES CHANGE OVER TIME, RIGHT? SO ZHANG IS A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND SO IS WHAT WAS THAT OTHER STREET? I JUST SAW THE MAP. I'M SORRY. DAVIS, I BELIEVE IT IS.

THANK YOU. AND THOSE ARE PRETTY BUSY CORRIDORS.

IF I RECALL, WHEN I'M DOWN IN OAK CLIFF IN THE BISHOP ARTS AREA.

CARS ARE GOING PRETTY QUICK AND FAST, AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE IDEAL PLACE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE RESPECT THAT YOU HAVE A FRONT YARD.

AND, YOU KNOW, KIDS WANT TO PLAY IN THE FRONT YARD, OR MAYBE YOU WANT TO HANG OUT IN YOUR FRONT YARD WITH NEIGHBORS, AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE PLACE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO BECAUSE OF THE SPEEDS THAT HAPPEN THERE.

BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE COMPROMISE. AND THEN WE DID SAY THAT WE DIDN'T WANT SHORT TERM.

AND I'M SAYING THAT AS A PERSON WHO WAS PART OF THAT COMPROMISE.

AND ALSO THE OTHER THING WHEN IT CAME TO THE SHORT TERM RENTALS IS WHAT WE PASSED, WHICH WE WE CAN'T ENFORCE RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S FINE. BUT I IF THIS IS ALLOWED IN THE PD AND THE PD WAS WRITTEN IN 18.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES. GIVE ME A SECOND TILL I GO TO.

THE FIRST PAGE OF THE PD WAS ORIGINALLY PASSED IN 1997, AND THEN WE KEPT ON AMENDING IT UNTIL 2005.

OKAY. AND THEN MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THIS PROPERTY 719 AND 727 HAS BEEN UTILIZED AS A MULTI LEASE TYPE PROPERTY SINCE 2018.

SORRY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT 2018. AS SUCH, THIS WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED A NEW USE FOR THIS SITE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? SO PER PER THE STAFF REPORT AGAIN IT WAS BUILT THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

IT'S A THREE STORY STRUCTURE. IT WAS BUILT IN 2018.

IT'S A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING WITH A DRIVE WITH A PASS THROUGH DRIVEWAY.

THEY'VE BEEN I UNDERSTAND MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I WANT THE APPLICANT TO EXPLAIN HOW THEY WERE RENTING THOSE UNITS THAT AGAIN, THEY WERE MEETING THE DEFINITION OF MULTIFAMILY. AND THAT'S HOW IT WAS. RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS PRE PAUSE ON SHORT TERM RENTALS WAS THAT IT WAS BUILT AND SOME OF THE UNITS WERE BEING UTILIZED FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL.

I MEAN THIS WAS ALL IN THE PAST. SO BUT GOING FORWARD THEY STILL HAD LONG TERM TENANT LEASES IF THAT'S CORRECT.

SO AND MAYBE A FEW UNITS WERE USED. NOW OUR DEFINITION I BELIEVE IN FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 FOR HOTELS.

WOULD THAT APPLY TO THIS. IF IT IF THIS PASSES THEN ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE FACILITY CAN BE USED AS HOTEL.

NO, I'M SORRY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HOTEL UNITS, NOT SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO THIS NEW PHASE WOULD BE THE THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL PART AND THE APARTMENTS WOULD BE THE OTHER SIDE, LIKE WE DO DOWNTOWN WITH LIKE THE W HAS APARTMENTS AND THEN THEY HAVE HOTEL NEXT TO IT IS.

BUT THIS WOULD BE I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THIS ADDITIONAL PROVISION THAT WAS WORKED OUT DURING CPC.

A BOUTIQUE HOTEL MAY BE RENTED ON A DAILY, WEEKLY, MONTHLY OR ANNUAL BASIS JUST TO CAPTURE A LITTLE BIT OF IF SOME OF THE UNITS WANT TO BE RENTAL FOR A LONGER TERM, LIKE A MULTIFAMILY TYPE.

SO THE COMBINATION AND THE WAY IT FUNCTIONS INTERNALLY, OR EVEN IN THOSE THREE BUILDINGS, I WOULD SAY IT'S IT'S CAPTURED IN THIS DEFINITION.

SO SOMEBODY COULD LEASE THE APARTMENT STYLE UNIT FOR THREE MONTHS, OR THEY COULD HAVE A ONE NIGHT STAY IN THAT SAME UNIT OR ANOTHER UNIT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE KITCHEN.

BUT NONE OF THOSE KITCHEN KITCHEN UNITS WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR HOTEL RENTAL.

CORRECT. AGAIN, IF IT MEETS THE DEFINITION, UNLESS THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT LINE FOR LONG TERM APARTMENT USE, SO IS WHAT I MEANT. IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A KITCHEN, IT CAN'T BE AN APARTMENT.

OKAY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAD THAT CLEAR. I'M SORRY, I CONFUSED IT.

I SAID IT BACKWARDS. SO NO KITCHEN. THAT'S THE HOTEL FOR SURE.

WITH THE KITCHEN. IT COULD. IT'S FLEX. COULD BE.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M TRYING TO PUT IT IN TERMS THAT FOLKS LIKE ME CAN UNDERSTAND I THIS ISN'T THERE YET.

OR THERE'S. I KNOW THERE'S ANOTHER TYPE OF STYLE OF THIS ON ZANG ALREADY.

THIS ONE'S NOT BUILT RIGHT. IT'S THE ONE SIDE IS, BUT ONE SIDE ISN'T.

[04:15:02]

I'M LIKE, I KNOW I'VE DRIVEN PAST THIS, BUT IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THIS. SO IT'S A SMALLER VERSION OF THIS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. SO IT'S THE EXPANSION. HERE'S THE PICTURE THAT SHOWS SHOWS IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SEES. IT'S ALREADY OVER THERE.

I HAVE TO SAY THAT I LIKE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE WE'RE NOW SEEING WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND COULDN'T HAPPEN.

I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT BE COMPLIANT AND DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING WHAT WE INTENDED.

AND IT'S THIS MAJOR CORRIDOR. THAT'S WHERE THE STREETCAR IS.

AND THAT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR A MULTIFAMILY OR THOSE OTHER TYPES OF BOUTIQUE HOTEL TO GET UP AND OUT OF BISHOP ARTS TO DOWNTOWN.

THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE SAID WE AGREED TO WHEN WE COMPROMISED IN FOUR DALLAS 2.0.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IF I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, I'LL COME BACK IN MY NEXT ROUND.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GRACEY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z3.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU TURNING AROUND. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS.

DOES DOES APPROVING THIS SET A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER AREA, OTHER FACILITIES THAT COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I'M GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION FIRST. SO NO ZONING CASE IS A PER SE PRECEDENT.

WE DON'T APPLY THE PRINCIPLE OF PRECEDENT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING CASES.

EACH OF THEM I DO UNDERSTAND EACH OF THEM IS ON THEIR OWN MERITS.

HOW DOES IT FEEL WITH THE SURROUNDINGS? HOWEVER, WE DO APPLY THE PRINCIPLE OF CONSISTENCY.

SO YES, WE WOULD SAY OKAY, WE HAD ANOTHER BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

THESE ARE THE TYPE OF CONDITIONS THAT WE HAD. THESE ARE THE TYPE OF CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE HAD.

BUT IT DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN THAT IF WE APPROVE ONE, WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE ALL OF THEM.

IT MEANS THAT WE WILL LOOK AT THEM IN A CONSISTENT MANNER.

SO SO GOING FORWARD, LET'S I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY TO ASK THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE US WHO DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A BISHOP ARTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND OBVIOUSLY WE WENT THROUGH THIS AND PEOPLE ARE ALREADY LOOKING AT THIS FEELS LIKE IT'S A LOOPHOLE.

SO I'M TRYING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN PUBLICLY SAY THAT THIS IS NOT A LOOPHOLE, BUT THIS IS A ONE OFF THING.

AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE MISS SCHULTZ MENTIONED THAT IT WAS IN A PD.

IS THIS SPECIFIC TO JUST THIS PD OR SOMEWHERE ELSE IN DISTRICT THREE? SOMEBODY CAN FIND A FACILITY. BUILD SOMETHING IN A PLACE WHERE IT'S APPROVED.

SAY IT'S GOING TO BE AN APARTMENT, 20 UNITS, AND THEN TURN AROUND AND TURN IT INTO A BOUTIQUE MOTEL DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY SETTING THE PRECEDENT. I KNOW YOU DON'T DO THAT IN ZONING, BUT THE DEVELOPERS AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE LISTENING ARE KIND OF GETTING SOME MOMENTS, I FEEL LIKE. SO HELP ME FIND CLARITY BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND HOW DO WE PROTECT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS OR NOT EVEN PROTECT WHATEVER THE WORD IS? SO IT IS SPECIFIC TO THIS PD BECAUSE THIS PD DEFAULTS TO A FORM BASED CODE.

AND WHEN WE CREATED THE SHORT TERM RENTAL USE, WE DIDN'T APPLY IT TO FORM BASED CODE.

THIS PD HAS A SPECIFIC DEFINITION FOR BOUTIQUE HOTELS BASED ZONING DOESN'T.

SO IT'S IT'S ALL A MATTER OF ZONING IT. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE ZONING.

I WOULD REMIND THE ENTIRE COUNCIL THAT SHORT TERM RENTAL ISN'T USED.

IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.

SO YES, IF THE AREA IS ZONED PROPERLY, PROPERLY AND A SHORT TERM RENTAL USE IS ALLOWED, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT.

BUT IF NOT, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND IS THERE A MINIMUM IN THIS PARTICULAR MODEL? IS THERE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF. I KNOW I THINK I SAW 28 OR 24 UNITS.

HOW MANY OF THEM COULD POTENTIALLY BE ON THE HOTEL SIDE, AND HOW MANY OF THEM COULD BE ON THE APARTMENT SIDE THAT THAT WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T DO THAT TYPE OF REGULATION IN THIS PD SUBDISTRICT.

THE ONLY REGULATION THAT APPLIES AND WITH THE SUP IS THAT COMBINED IN THOSE THREE BUILDINGS, THEY CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN 40 BOUTIQUE HOTEL UNITS.

BUT IT'S THREE BUILDINGS. SO 40 BOUTIQUE HOTEL GUEST ROOMS IN THREE BUILDINGS.

THE REST CAN BE MULTIFAMILY. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT WOULD MAKE A CONDITION RIGHT OR WRONG FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS ELSEWHERE? WE'RE DOING OUR BEST. NO I'M NOT. I MEAN, BUT I'M REALLY TRYING TO TO UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE I DO.

I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT AND I THINK IT FITS RIGHT HERE.

I JUST DON'T WANT THIS TO BE, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE TRIES.

AND WE TRY TO WE FIND OURSELVES IN SOME DEBATE ON WHETHER OR NOT IT FITS.

SO WHAT CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT OR WRONG FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I GUESS AS I AS I SAID, WHAT WE SAID IN FOR DALLAS WHERE YOU HAVE THE THE CORRIDOR, I THINK THE CORRIDORS AND IF IT'S A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.

BUT AGAIN, EVEN IN THAT MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT, WHAT WOULD BE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE IT WOULD WOULD WHERE IT WOULDN'T FIT? IF I MAY ASK YOU THAT QUESTION, WHERE IT WOULD NOT FIT?

[04:20:03]

IT'S ADJACENT, OR IS A USED AS CLOSE ENOUGH TO A MULTIFAMILY.

IT'S A COMBINATION OF MULTIFAMILY AND LODGING ARE TWO COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO POINT RFPS DID APPLY.

THE BUILDING STARES BACK. SO IT IS. I THINK IT IS CONSISTENT AND IS RESPECTING THE RPS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S IN THE BACK.

WE THINK IT'S NOT. IT'S ONLY A THREE STORY BUILDING THAT STARES BACK.

WE THINK IT'S NOT A MATTER OF MASSING, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF HOW MANY UNITS WE THINK IT'S IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE MIX OF USES AND THE DENSITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE AREA RIGHT NOW.

OKAY, LAST QUESTION, AND I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I WANT TO HEAR IT.

CAN A MOTEL BE CONVERTED TO A BOUTIQUE MOTEL UNDER READING.

WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE THAT QUALIFY? COULD THEY BE CONVERTED TO A BOUTIQUE MOTEL? I DON'T KNOW IF THE MOTEL IS A USED BY THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

I GUESS THAT'S PROBABLY THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET THE DEFINITION AGAIN IF IT MEETS THE DEFINITION OF THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL AND THEY CAN TURN INTO ONE.

THEY CAN. THEY DEFINITELY CAN. IT REALLY GOES BACK TO DOES IT MEET THE DEFINITION OF A BOUTIQUE HOTEL? AND KEEP IN MIND, IT'S MAXIMUM 30 UNITS, 30 GUEST ROOMS. IT'S VERY SMALL OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z3.

THANK YOU, MAYOR ANDREA. YOU HAVE NOW RESPONDED TWICE TO QUESTIONS STATING THAT SHORT TERM RENTALS ARE A PERMITTED BY RIGHT USE IN A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. AND I NOTICED, CURIOUSLY, THAT YOU DIDN'T ADD AS A CONDITION THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF UNITS OF BUILDINGS OVER 20 UNITS IS LIMITED.

THAT'S CORRECT, ISN'T IT? OH, I THINK SO. LET ME CHECK.

I PRINTED IT'S LIMITED TO 3% OF THE UNITS.

SO SHORT TERM LODGING DISTRICTS ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN MCGOUGH MULTIFAMILY CENTRAL AREA MIXED USE PARKING.

ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS. SHORT FOR.

I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE. WELL, IT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, BUT IT WAS LIMITED TO 3% IN YOUR STAFF.

REPORT INDICATES THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY USING 65% OF THE UNITS FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT? I WOULD SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ASKING. WELL, LOOK AT THE SECOND PAGE OF YOUR STAFF REPORT.

IT SAYS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE UNDER EXISTING PROPOSED USE CONDITIONS.

YES. THE PROPERTY RECENTLY THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN 65% OCCUPIED AS A DAILY TO 14 DAY RENTAL THAT CONSTITUTES AN STR DOESN'T. I SO AS A RESULT OF THE DISPARITY BETWEEN 3% OF THE UNITS AND 65%, THE BUILDING IS CURRENTLY NOT COMPLYING WITH THE STR ORDINANCE.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT? I, I WOULD I WOULD DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEYS.

I CANNOT LIKE I THINK WELL YOU RECOGNIZE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3% ALLOWED AND 65% OCCUPIED.

DON'T YOU. LET ME GO BACK AND CHECK THE CODE.

I DIDN'T SEE THE PROVISION. I DO REMEMBER US DISCUSSING THAT WHEN WE PASSED THE STR ORDINANCE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT PASSED THE THE FINAL ONE. WELL, IT DID IF IT DID OR IT DID NOT, IF IT DID, IT MEANS IT'S IN THE CODE. I BELIEVE YOU, BUT I WILL ASK THE ATTORNEYS TO CHECK ON ME.

AND THEN AS FAR AS WHAT THE USE IS FOR THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY IT'S MULTIFAMILY AND I WOULDN'T MAKE A DETERMINATION IF THERE ARE SHORT TERM RENTAL RIGHT NOW, CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT, WELL, THEN HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR IT BEING IN YOUR STAFF? REPORT THAT 65% OF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN OCCUPIED ON A DAILY TO 14 DAY RENTAL? AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS THAT 65% OF THE PROPERTY IS, OR THE EXISTING BUILDING IS OCCUPIED AS DAILY OR 14 DAY RENTAL.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS. AND YOU RECALL THAT IN THE STR ORDINANCE, ANYTHING CONSTITUTING LESS CLARIFICATION STATE YOUR POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

SPEAKING ABOUT AN ORDINANCE THAT'S NOT IN OUR CODE, CAN WE JUST GET LEGAL TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT'S BEING SAID ON THE RECORD, PLEASE? WELL, IT'S AN ORDINANCE THAT WE PASSED AS A BODY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. IT'S UNENFORCEABLE AND NOT IN THE CODE.

WELL, IT'S IN THE CODE. IT'S UP FOR LITIGATION.

WE DON'T WE DON'T WE DON'T DO THIS. YOU KNOW THAT.

[04:25:01]

I MEAN, I'M BEING SERIOUS. I HATE TO SAY IT. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO STANDARD OF FACTUAL CORRECTNESS.

AND, YOU KNOW, HE LIKES TO GIVE LEGAL STATEMENTS AND THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.

WE WE LOVE HIM. SO GO AHEAD PAUL. AND WE'LL HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY CORRECT YOU IF ON THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM TIME, IF HE WANTS TO USE IT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO AS A RESULT OF THIS REZONING, THAT WOULD LEGITIMIZE 65% OR UP TO 100% OF THE UNITS BEING USED ON A SHORT TERM OCCUPANCY BASIS.

ISN'T THAT CORRECT? YES. IF IT MEETS THE DEFINITION OF BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

AND TO GO BACK AND I APOLOGIZE FOR DOING THIS, ANDREA, LET ME KNOW THAT THAT 3% CAP IS NOT IN THE ZONING CODE IS IN THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE. SO AS I SAID, IT'S NOT A PURVIEW FOR ZONING.

OKAY. SO IT IS IN THE REGISTRATION CODE. AND THAT'S A BINDING ORDINANCE, CORRECT? I DON'T I WOULD NOT ANSWER THAT. I WOULD LET THE CITY ATTORNEY WEIGH IN.

ALL RIGHT. SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION.

IT IS REMOVING EXISTING AND PLANNED HOUSING STOCK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FROM MULTIFAMILY TO A HOTEL SHORT TERM RENTAL BASIS. IT'S CONTRARY TO THE PDS THAT CONSTITUTE THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S VISION FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND THERE ARE BETTER PLACES FOR HOTELS THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED FOR IT.

SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS TODAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THEY WERE ALL ON SECOND ROUNDS NOW. SO, CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ANDREA, WHAT IS THE CURRENT LAND USE DESCRIPTION FOR? 727 ZHENG. ZINC. SO THEY ARE ZONED AS A SUBDISTRICT B WITH WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOUR. 68 THAT IS CONSIDERED A RESIDENTIAL SUBDISTRICT AND FURTHER CERTIFICATE OF CERTIFICATE TYPE.

WHAT IS THAT? I UNDERSTAND THAT. DID THEY HAVE A CO AS A MULTI-FAMILY? I WOULD LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT.

YES. THEY HAVE A CO FOR MULTIFAMILY. OKAY. SO.

WHY WAS THE I MEAN THE INTENT WAS FOR THIS TO BE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT OR INCORRECT. I THINK THAT'S HOW IT WAS BUILT.

OKAY. SO HOW MANY UNITS OF THE 28 HAVE KITCHENS INSIDE THEM.

I WOULD LET THE APPLICANT NOT PART OF ZONING.

I THINK ALL OF THEM, SHE SAID. OKAY. AND SO I GUESS, I MEAN, IF THIS WAS INTENDED TO BE A BOUTIQUE HOTEL, WHY WASN'T THAT THE ORIGINAL CEO REQUEST? BECAUSE PROBABLY DOES NOT. THEY MAY HAVE CHANGED PLANS THE SAME AS IT HAPPENS WITH A LOT OF OUR ZONING REQUESTS.

OKAY. AND THEN CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WAS ISSUED ON HERE? IT SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN MULTI LEASED TYPE SINCE 2018, BUT I DON'T I SEE THE RELEASE DATE AS 2020 AND CONSTRUCTION COMPLETED AROUND 2020.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY ON THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN 2018 AND 2020.

YES, I'LL I'LL LOOK INTO GIVING YOU A DATE FOR THE CEO.

BUT I WOULD SAY I DON'T WANT THIS. I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT WEIGHING IN ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I WOULD THIS IS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND I'LL PROVIDE IT FOR YOU WITHIN A FEW MINUTES. OKAY.

AND THEN LASTLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NEAR A CORRIDOR NEAR AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, NEAR A BUS ROUTE.

WHAT DID FORD DALLAS 2.0 SPEAK TO WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT? ANDREA WAS HERE AND I WOULD SAY I WOULD LET ANDREA WAS HERE TO A SECOND.

I WOULD SAY WHEN IT COMES TO ZONING CASES, THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

YOU HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARING MEETINGS CPC AND CITY COUNCIL.

SO IT SATISFIES THE PROCESS FOR A ZONING CHANGE.

AS FAR AS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I WILL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THE EXTENT OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT THEY DID.

AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN FOR DALLAS REGARDING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, I HAVE HERE.

[04:30:01]

THERE IS LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED ABOUT TRYING TO DO AS MUCH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OR THROUGH WHEN THE ZONING CASES DID COME UP.

OKAY. THANK YOU. LAST QUESTION. AND THIS IS, I THINK KUDOS TO THE APPLICANT AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL MEMBER, WHEN IT COMES TO OPERATIONS, I SEE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS WITHIN THE OPERATIONS.

BUT WHERE DOES THE ACCOUNTABILITY COME IN? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SEE FOR A WEEK? IS IT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE TIME THAT THE THE BOUTIQUE HOTEL WOULD BE IN THERE? HOW DO WE GUARANTEE THAT THERE WOULD BE MANAGEMENT ON SITE MOVING FORWARD? I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD CODIFY THAT. THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY IT'S BEEN RUN.

EVERYBODY THAT HE HAS, MANAGEMENT AND OTHERWISE, IT'S NOT CONTRACTED OUT.

THEY'RE ALL PAYROLL, SO THEY'RE ALL LOCAL PAYROLL.

THAT WAS ALSO ONE OF THE REASONS WE OFFERED UP THE SUP AS WELL.

SO WE ASKED FOR AN SUP THERE SO THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS.

AND, I MEAN, THEY RUN A TIGHT SHIP. SO FAR, WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF COMMUNITY ISSUES BEING BROUGHT FORWARD, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, ANYWAY. COOL. THANK YOU.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

ITEM Z3. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ANDREA, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE LINE OF QUESTIONING? I THINK THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A MOOT POINT. REGARDING THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE BEING BROUGHT INTO THIS CONVERSATION.

FIRST OF ALL, IS THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE ENFORCEABLE AT THE MOMENT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. NO, IT IS NOT. THE CITY CANNOT ENFORCE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCES AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

OKAY. AND UTILIZING THE REGISTRATION ORDINANCE AS ARGUMENT AGAINST THIS ZONING CASE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT INTERSECTS WITH OUR CODE THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE ZONING CODE? I THINK I WOULD ANSWER THAT BY SAYING THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT WE REALLY NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON THE LAND USE AND THOSE ELEMENTS.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE POINT BEING MADE AGAINST IT IS ACTUALLY, IN FACT, A MOOT POINT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY AN ORDINANCE THAT HAS NO INTERSECTIONALITY WITH THE ZONING CODE THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE TODAY, IT'S ALSO AN UNENFORCEABLE ORDINANCE THAT'S HELD UP IN LITIGATION.

JUST FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

I KEEP ON REMINDING MYSELF AND EVERYBODY QUESTION IN FRONT OF US, IS THIS A GOOD USE OF LAND AT THIS LOCATION? AND THAT'S IT. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY A COUPLE THINGS.

ONE, THE SUP IS REALLY THE CONTROL MECHANISM THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP THE OPERATOR IN CHECK MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT IF WE DON'T PASS THIS TODAY, THERE IS NO CONTROL MECHANISM. WE JUST WAIT UNTIL SEE WHAT THE STATE LAW DOES AND THEN FIGURE IT OUT FROM THERE.

SO THE SUP WHICH HAS BEEN OFFERED UP IS SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVE A CHECK AND BALANCE ON THE OPERATIONS MOVING FORWARD.

SECONDLY, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES MADE A COMMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS AGAINST THIS.

WE DO HAVE SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS AGAINST THIS, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN SUPPORT, AS CAN BE SEEN BY THIS DOCUMENT THAT WAS PASSED AROUND.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT 100% CERTAINTY, BUT IT IS A LOT OF FOLKS IN GREEN RIGHT AROUND THE PROPERTY THAT DO SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL, IN ADDITION TO MEMBERS OF OUR ARTS COMMUNITY AND OTHERS WHO HAVE PROVIDED LETTERS OF SUPPORT.

SO IT'S YOU KNOW, NO ZONING CASE IS ALMOST NO ZONING CASE IS 100% IN SUPPORT.

IT'S GOING TO BE MIXED USES. BUT IN THIS SITUATION, I THINK THE CARDS ARE MORE IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING THIS APPLICATION.

AND I ASK FOR A RECORD VOTE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ZONING ITEM Z3 SEEING NONE.

RECORD VOTES BEEN REQUESTED. RECORD VOTES BEEN GRANTED. MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE YOUR RESPONSE IN THE MICROPHONE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. ARNOLD. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. NO. COUNCILMEMBER. WILLIS. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

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MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. YES. MAYOR. JOHNSON. NO.

WITH 11 VOTING IN FAVOR, FOUR OPPOSED. THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM. NEXT ITEM WILL BE Z4 COUNCIL MEMBER.

[Z4. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for (1) an ordinance granting a new subdistrict on property zoned Subdistrict 1 within Planned Development District No. 830, the Davis Street Special Purpose District; and (2) an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a boutique hotel on the east line of North Bishop Avenue, between West Neely Street and West Davis Street]

ITEM Z4 IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ONE, AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUB DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED SUBDISTRICT ONE WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 830, THE DAVIS STREET SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT, AND TWO AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BOUTIQUE HOTEL ON THE EAST LINE OF NORTH BISHOP AVENUE BETWEEN WEST NEELY STREET AND WEST DAVIS STREET. MR. MAYOR, WE SEND 91 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST. WE RECEIVED 14 REPLIES IN FAVOR AND NINE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

PAM CONLEY.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. I'M STILL PAM CONNELLY.

AND I'M GOING TO SAY BASICALLY THE SAME THINGS HERE.

OKAY. I DO WANT TO CORRECT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ON THAT SAID, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, RESIDENTIAL, AND IT ALLOWS APARTMENTS JUST AS THE OTHER ONE DID.

THIS ONE HAS A CO FOR APARTMENTS AS THE OTHER ONE DID, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN OPERATING AS AN APARTMENT.

IT WANTS TO CREATE A NEW SUBDISTRICT ONE C. AND ITS REQUEST FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

AGAIN CHANGING THE DEFINITION. NOW I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ALL GOT THAT.

28 UNITS IS WHAT THEY HAD WITH THE NEW ADDITION OVER THERE.

IT'S 40 UNITS AND ALL THAT'S ALLOWED IN BOUTIQUE IS 30 UNITS.

OKAY. AND THE COWS BACK THIS UP AND YOU MAY. SHOULD HAVE ON YOUR.

SECOND PAGE THERE. IT'S A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

RESIDENTIAL NOT NONRESIDENTIAL. HOTELS ARE NONRESIDENTIAL WHETHER THEY'RE BOUTIQUE OR WHETHER THEY'RE REGULAR HOTELS OR MOTELS. THEY ARE NONRESIDENTIAL HOUSING. HOUSING, HOUSING.

NEIGHBORS. Y'ALL TALK ABOUT IT. PUT YOUR VOTE WITH HOUSING.

DON'T PUT YOUR BOAT WITH MOTELS OR HOTELS. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO REMIND YOU OF THIS FOR A LONG.

TIME ON VOTING AGAINST HOUSING INSTEAD OF VOTING FOR HOTELS.

I'M GOING TO FLIP THROUGH THESE PAGES AND YOU CAN SEE THE BACKUP FOR WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING ON BOTH PAGES.

PRIMARILY SECOND PAGE HAD YOUR SAYING IT'S RESIDENTIAL.

GUESS WHAT THE THIRD PAGE SAYS USES LODGING NOT PERMITTED.

BOUTIQUE HOTEL IS LODGING AND IT'S NOT PERMITTED IN THAT ONE.

THEN. THEY AGAIN CHANGED THE DEFINITION FROM 30 ROOMS TO 40 ROOMS. AND THEN THEY CHANGED THE ACCESSING THE BUILDING.

AND THIS ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THIS CASE.

THIS ONE HAS HAD NOISE PROBLEMS. IT HAS HAD POLICE CALLS TO IT.

NOW THEY SIGNED A WAIVER FOR A DUMPSTER. BUT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS NO WAY, HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING WHEN THEY WAIVER THEIR DUMPSTER. THEY DON'T SAY HOW THE HOW THE GARBAGE IS TO BE COLLECTED.

WELL, IN THIS CASE, THEY SIGNED A WAIVER AND THAT'S ON THEIR COE.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. BUT THE DUMPSTERS IN THE ALLEY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z FOUR?

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OKAY. YOU CAN COME FORWARD. YES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

LET'S SEE. HELLO. MY NAME IS LAURA PALMER. STILL 911 NORTH MADISON AVENUE.

AGAIN, I WILL STRESS THIS IS SPOT ZONING TO GIVE A PRIVILEGE TO A DEVELOPER. AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT IS NOT ENJOYED BY SOME.

PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA. AS MISS CONNOLLY POINTED OUT.

THIS PD, WHICH SHOULD BE HONORED UNDER FORWARD DALLAS 2.0, SPECIFICALLY SAYS NO LODGING IS TO BE IN THIS SUBDISTRICT. ALL OF THE LODGING WAS ENVISIONED TO BE SOUTH OF DAVIS.

IT'S ENVISIONED TO BE IN BISHOP ARTS TO BE BETWEEN DAVIS AND JEFFERSON, NOT NORTH OF DAVIS.

NOT IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT IS WHAT IS COMPATIBLE. THE REASON THAT THAT THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO HAVE A BOUTIQUE HOTEL IS THAT THERE ARE ONLY 12 UNITS IN THIS BUILDING. DESPITE THE EARLIER CONVERSATION AND THE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THE LAST VOTE DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO VOTE THE SAME ON THIS UNDER THE ORDINANCE.

THIS BUILDING COULD NOT BE USED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL BECAUSE THERE ARE FEWER THAN 20 UNITS.

THIS NEEDS TO STAY AN APARTMENT BUILDING. AGAIN, HOUSING THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR HOUSING AND IT NEEDS TO STAY RESIDENTIAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

I'VE ALREADY FILLED ONE OF THOSE OUT. YEAH. AUDRA BUCKLEY, 1414 BELLEVUE STREET, SUITE 150, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75215, REPRESENTING THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER THAT WAS IN Z3.

THIS IS A SMALLER BUILDING THAT HAS NINE UNITS.

AND WE ARE ALSO SURROUNDED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TO THE REAR ON EITHER SIDE OF US.

WE HAVE RETAIL. THIS IS NOT A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

ON THAT IS FRONTING ON BISHOP. WE DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL BEHIND US, BUT NOT FRONTING BISHOP.

AND WE ARE JUST OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARY FOR THIS NEW OAK CLIFF CULTURAL DISTRICT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.

BUT THIS ONE TOO. BUT THE SAME DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BE A UNIQUE MIX OF RENTAL TYPES.

RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FULL TIME, LONG TERM RENTAL UNITS BEING OCCUPIED AS SUCH.

BUT WE DO HAVE THEM SIX MONTHS OR LESS, AND SOME ARE 14 DAYS OR LESS.

BUT THE THING WITH THIS ONE, IT'S IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN PERPETUITY.

WE HEARD THAT FROM KIDD SPRINGS SAYING THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO ALLOW THE SHOES TO TO LAST FOREVER.

THAT WAS THE REASON WHY WE PUT THE SOUP AND THE SOUP CONDITIONS ON IT.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THOSE CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. ITEM C FOUR. WONDERFUL, SIR. OH, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE.

LOOKS LIKE. OKAY. YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I, JIM KLOPCIC, 720 ELSPETH STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 75208.

JUST WANTED TO READ ABOUT QUICKLY ABOUT WHAT IT WHAT QUALIFIES GRANTING AN SNP SECTION, I GUESS 51 A 4.2 19. NUMBER THREE. IT SAYS THAT CITY COUNCIL SHALL NOT GRANT AN SCP FOR USE, EXCEPT UPON FINDING THAT THE USE WILL A COMPLEMENT OR BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES.

B CONTRIBUTE TO ENHANCE OR PROMOTE THE WELFARE OF THE AREA OF REQUEST AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

C NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR GENERAL WELFARE, AND D CONFORM IN ALL RESPECTS TO ALL ZONING REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS. IN ADDITION, I JUST RECOMMEND COUNCIL TAKES A LOOK AT THE

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IT'S THEIR SELF DESCRIPTIONS BY THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE, YOU MAY FIND THAT THESE DON'T DON'T FIT WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WITHIN THIS SCP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BY SHOW OF HANDS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A.

OH, YEAH. SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU. SIR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MISS SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

OKAY, FIRST, THESE ARE. THESE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. DOCTOR UDREA. COULD YOU TELL ME HOW LONG THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN OPERATING UNDER ITS CURRENT USE? YES. SO IT WAS PERMITTED. IT? NO, I CHECKED IT WAS PERMITTED AS A MIXED USE PROJECT AS A COMBINATION OF OFFICE AND MULTIFAMILY. JUST A SECOND. IT WAS. IT STARTED DEVELOPMENT IN 2015, PER OUR STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE SHARED BY THE SPEAKERS.

FIRST OF ALL, COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY HOW MANY UNITS WERE DISCUSSING HERE AND THAT WILL BE PERMITTED IF IT'S PASSED, IF IT PASSES. SO THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING AND IT HAS NINE UNITS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE SUP CONDITIONS ON PAGE 21, IT SAYS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF GUEST ROOMS FOR A BOUTIQUE HOTEL IS NINE.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NINE UNITS. NINE UNITS.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A HISTORY OF ISSUES AT THIS LOCATION PERTAINING TO CODE COMPLAINTS, PUBLIC SAFETY OR ANY OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES? ARE THERE IS THERE A RECORD OF ANYTHING? I WOULD WE DON'T CHECK THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY ARE AWARE OF THEIR OWN VIOLATIONS, IF THEY HAVE ANY.

OKAY, I'LL PUT THAT. I'LL PUT A PIN IN THAT FOR NOW.

HOW MANY NOTICES WERE MAILED AND WHAT WAS THE BREAKDOWN OF RESPONSE? 91. AND WE HAD 14 IN FAVOR AND NINE IN OPPOSITION.

AND WHAT WAS THE VOTE AT CPC? JUST A SECOND. IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT.

I'LL GIVE YOU THE PAGE NUMBER. JUST A SECOND.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT FROM TOP OF MY HEAD. IT WAS 9 TO 1.

9 TO 1. THANK YOU. AND HOW LONG WILL THIS SUP BE IN PLACE? SO IT HAS A TIME LIMIT FOR FOUR YEARS. SAME AS THE PREVIOUS CASE.

FOUR YEARS. SO THEY MUST COME BACK IN FOUR YEARS.

THANK YOU. AND THEN CAN STAFF CONFIRM THAT THIS PROPERTY IS JUST TWO BLOCKS FROM GLORIA'S AND CAFE BRAZIL? I THINK SO, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WHAT I JUST WANT TO SHARE IS THIS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, DESPITE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

THIS IS ONLY NINE, SO ANY ESSER DISCUSSION DOES NOT PERTAIN TO THIS.

BISHOP ARTS IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR TOURIST DESTINATIONS IN OUR ENTIRE CITY.

AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE NEED TO ADD HOTEL ROOMS. IT'S A SMALL PROJECT. IT'S ALREADY OCCUPIED 80%, I BELIEVE, BY DAILY OR 14 DAY RENTALS, AND SO IT HAS NO IMPACT AS FAR AS THAT GOES, REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME OF ANY TRIALS.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD CHARACTER AND INTEREST TO AN AREA, TO THIS AREA EVEN MORE THAN IT ALREADY HAS.

AND BASED ON THE THE NOTICE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATION OF THE OPPOSITION, THERE'S VERY, VERY LITTLE. AND THEN FINALLY, TO THE POINT OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS WHO DID TAKE THE TIME.

AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT, PARTICULARLY MISS CONLEY, WE GO WAY BACK.

AND SO I WILL SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND ALWAYS BEING SUCH A VIGILANT LEADER OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

THAT SAID, THIS GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON C4.

THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR, I'M. AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMEMBER SCHULTZ, FOR TAKING ON ZONING CASE THAT'S NOT IN HER DISTRICT, BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE WORK WHEN ONE OF US CAN'T DO IT.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL YOUR WORK. I'M GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT ON THIS ONE.

MISS CONNELLY, YOU CONVINCED ME WITH YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE NEW SUBDISTRICT.

SEE, IT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE IN THE PD, AND I APPRECIATE THE WANT OF THE APPLICANT TO ADD A SUBDISTRICT INSIDE OF THE

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I MEAN, SUBDISTRICT OF THE SUBDISTRICT OF THE SUBDISTRICT. AND THEN IT'S LIKE. AND THIS IS A TEENY, TEENY TINY SUBDISTRICT FOR BASICALLY.

IS IT ONE PROJECT? I MEAN, DOES THIS. I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY THERE.

AND I ACTUALLY DO AGREE THAT PROBABLY THIS IS THE RIGHT THING.

IT ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT.

IT WAS BUILT TO BE WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, WHICH WAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE INTENT ACTUALLY WAS OF THE ORIGINAL NINE UNITS THAT WERE BUILT.

AND THEN THINGS CHANGED FROM WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT TO NOW.

AND SO THIS ONE, IN THE ORIGINAL PD, THERE WAS NO BOUTIQUE HOTEL IN THE ORIGINAL PD SUBDISTRICT.

THERE WAS NO IT WAS THERE WAS NO THIS IS NOW IT'S CHANGING TO SUBDISTRICTS 11A3, FOUR AND EIGHT AND TO BE RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. AND THEN IT SINGLES OUT THIS SUBDISTRICT.

RIGHT. AND THEN ALL THE DEFINITIONS. I MEAN, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS NO IT SAYS LODGING USES IN THE ORIGINAL PD SUBDISTRICTS 11A AND ONE B, BISHOP AVENUE NUMBER FIVE LITERALLY STATES FIVE LODGING USES NONE PERMITTED.

AND NOW WE'RE CREATING A1C. AND THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF PAUSE AND HEARTBURN BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT THE ORIGINAL PD WAS SUPPOSED TO DO.

THAT SUBDISTRICT. SO FOR THAT ADDING IT IN SECTION 51830 DASH 109, IT SAYS USE REGULATIONS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND SUBDISTRICTS 11A AND IT SAID ONE B AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU STRIKE AND AND IT'S LIKE AND THEN IT ADDS AND ONE C WHICH WASN'T THERE BEFORE. I THINK IT'S JUST TRYING TO AND THEN IT ADDS BOUTIQUE HOTEL PERMITTED BY SVP AND SUBDISTRICT ONE C ONLY AS FOLLOWS.

AND IT PICKS THE PERFECT DEFINITION FOR THIS ONE PROJECT.

GUESTS MAY PREPARE FOOD ON SITE WITHIN THE ROOMS, WHICH WE HEARD EARLIER, WAS NOT SOMETHING THE HOTEL COULD HAVE.

BECAUSE IT'S AN APARTMENT, INTERNAL ENTRY IS NOT REQUIRED, WHICH ALSO IS DIFFERENT.

AND A BOUTIQUE HOTEL IS PERMITTED WITHIN ONE MILE OF ANOTHER LODGING USE BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE ONE THAT I DID, YOU KNOW, VOTE IN FAVOR OF. BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE FIGURED OUT REALLY QUICK THIS IS GOING TO NOT ALLOW THIS USE.

AND THEN IT SAYS THE DUMPSTERS, DUMPSTERS ARE PROHIBITED IN SUBDISTRICTS ONE A AND THEN IT ADDS 1BI MEAN, IT SAYS ONE A AND ONE B BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ONE C AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT SAYS DUMPSTERS MAY BE PERMITTED AND THEN IT ADDS AND ONE C SO I PROHIBITED.

SO I'M CONFUSED NOW BECAUSE IT SAYS DUMPSTERS ARE PROHIBITED IN ONE A, I'M SORRY, ONE A AND ONE B AND ONE C THAT THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED ARE PROHIBITED. AND SO IT STRIKES THE AND AND THEN THE ONESIE.

SO THAT'S JUST CHANGING THE EVERY SINGLE DEFINITION THAT WAS IN THIS ORIGINAL SUBDISTRICT.

AND IT'S TRYING TO SQUEEZE THIS IN. I'M SORRY IF THE PERSON WHO PURCHASED THIS OR BUILT IT OR WHATEVER MADE A DECISION BASED ON THE WAY THINGS WERE, BUT THEY WERE COMPLIANT WITH THE WAY THINGS WERE OR THE WAY THINGS WERE ORIGINALLY WRITTEN, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO NOW BECOME COMPLIANT WITH THE WAY THINGS CHANGED BECAUSE IT CHANGED ON THEM BASED ON WHAT THEIR ACTUAL INTENT WAS FOR THIS PROPERTY.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS ONE, MR. MAYOR. BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE REST OF THE DEBATE.

I'LL KEEP AN OPEN MIND, BUT I THINK, MRS. CONNELLY, I THINK YOU YOU WON YOUR CASE WITH ME UP THERE.

SO I'M GOING TO STICK WITH THE WITH THE NO ON THIS ONE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? BEFORE I GO BACK TO MISS SCHULTZ FOR ROUND TWO.

BUT SCHULTZ RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. AND I'M SO GLAD THAT MY COLLEAGUE BROUGHT UP SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS. COULD COULD YOU PLEASE, I GUESS, MISS BUCKLEY, COME UP AND ANSWER QUICKLY SINCE IT'S ON MY TIME.

I COULD HAVE STOPPED IT WHILE SHE WALKED UP, BUT IT'S OKAY. IT'S A COUPLE SECONDS. COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHY THERE'S NO DUMPSTERS, PLEASE? WE JUST DO PRIVATE TRASH PICKUP. SO IT'S PRIVATE TRASH PICKUP.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. SECOND IS. AND THIS ISN'T FOR YOU.

MY SECOND QUESTION. MY SECOND POINT THAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS PD WAS WRITTEN IN 2010.

SO OVER THE PAST 15 YEARS, THINGS HAVE HAVE CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY IN BISHOP ARTS.

IF ANYBODY WHO WAS THERE IN 2010 COMPARED TO NOW, IT'S QUITE A DIFFERENT PLACE.

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DOCTOR UDREA, COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENS, WHY WE ADDED THE ONESIE.

THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. THAT'S HOW WE AMEND PDS.

WE CREATE SUBDISTRICTS OR DISTRICTS WITH WITHIN PDS.

WE DO THAT IN PD 193 ALL DAY LONG. WE DO THAT IN EVERY PD.

WE JUST CREATE SUBDISTRICTS WITHIN SUBDISTRICTS IF WE NEED TO.

SO WE RESPOND TO THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS AMENDED HERE.

AND THEN ALSO, COULD YOU EXPLAIN, GIVEN WHAT'S ALLOWED IN OUR CODE AND HOW THEY'RE OPERATING NOW, WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE. JUST CLARIFY AGAIN WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE DIFFERENCE IF WE SUPPORT THIS MOTION, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IT WOULD ALLOW TO RENT THE UNITS ON A DIFFERENT TIME FRAME THAT JUST MULTIFAMILY.

SO IT ALLOWS BOTH USES TO BASICALLY FLUCTUATE AS NEEDED.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, SO FOR ONE CURRENTLY. NOW IN THIS THEY'RE ALLOWED TO FUNCTION AS A MULTIFAMILY.

YES. WITH AN OFFICE COMPONENT. THEY ARE QUALIFIED AS A MIXED USE PROJECT.

OFFICE IS ALSO USED. THAT'S ALLOWED IN THE SUBDISTRICT.

AND BECAUSE THERE ARE FEWER THAN 20, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO EVEN IF THE REGARDLESS OF THE COURT CASE, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY SHORT TERM RENTALS NOW? OH, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T AGAIN IT'S NOT LISTED AS AN ALLOWED USE IN THIS PD.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY CAME AND THEY NEEDED TO AMEND IT.

OKAY. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO.

I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THIS. IT'S RIGHT THERE ON BISHOP.

AND IT'S A PERFECT PLACE FOR A BOUTIQUE HOTEL.

AND IT'S TINY. AND I HAVE A FEELING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO END UP JUST AS THE SAME REASON THAT OUR COLLEAGUE HAD TO RECUSE THEMSELVES.

I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO END UP ALSO WITH PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN THE AREA WHO NEED A PLACE TO STAY QUITE LONGER.

THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO NEED A PLACE TO SAY, COULDN'T THEY JUST HAVE A 30 DAY RENTAL? YEAH, BUT THERE'S NOT A HOTEL. CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHY I'LL BE VOTING NO ON THIS.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ZONING ITEMS FOR CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM Z4.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL, BUT I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT, MISS CONNELLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION FOR SOME YEARS, PROBABLY CLOSE TO A DECADE OR SO. SO I CONTINUED TO APPRECIATE YOUR FIGHT.

ANOTHER RESIDENT WHO WAS HERE, AND I'LL JUST I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE THE RECORD LIKE THIS.

I LOVE THE CREATIVITY IN OUR COMMUNITIES, AND I LOVE BISHOP ARTS, AND IT WORKS FOR SOME FOLKS AND SOME IT DOESN'T WORK FOR.

BUT THE BASIS OF MY CONVERSATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO NEIGHBORHOODS, FOR THE MOST PART, LENDS ITSELF TO PROTECTION OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SPACES.

AND SO I'M ONE OF THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO STAND ON THIS.

A PIG WITH LIPSTICK IS STILL A PIG. NOW YOU CAN YOU CAN CREATE ALL TYPES OF DESIGNS AND CONFIGURATIONS.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU CALL IT A BOUTIQUE HOTEL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IT TAKES ME BACK TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD REGARDING SHORT TERM RENTALS AND RESIDENTIAL AND IN HOTELS, MOTELS, AND IT'S NOT EVEN A HOLIDAY INN. SO I MUST STAND WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ASKED ME TO STAND ON SINGLE FAMILY. IDEOLOGY IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

AND I'M NOT AGAINST THE CREATIVITY AND THE NEW LIFESTYLES, BUT LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS.

AND SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S THE PROTECTION OF SINGLE FAMILY SPACES.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HOLD ON TO. AND IF IT WORKS AND IT WORKS IN THE PROPER LOCATION WITH THE PROPER ZONING AND THE PROPER LEGAL STRUCTURES, LET'S DO THAT. BUT THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE AND THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, EVERY NEW FORMAT AND STRUCTURE THAT WE CREATE IN THIS CITY, WE CREATE ENERGY.

AND SOMETIMES I REFER TO IT AS TRIGGERS. WHEN WE CREATE LARGER POPULATIONS AND COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE COMPETING FOR SPACE, PARKING SPACE AND LIVING SPACE.

THE FIRST THING WE DO IS WHEN WE HAVE A CONFLICT, WE CALL THE POLICE ARE WE CALL COLD.

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WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CODE OFFICERS. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ENVIRONMENTALISTS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH IN WHAT WE CALL IN THE TODAY'S LANGUAGE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO HANDLE THE CALLS THAT WE HAVE COMING IN.

SO WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HAVE A GOOD BALANCE SO THAT THOSE WHO WANT TO LIVE IN THESE CREATIVE STRUCTURES CAN DO THAT, AND THOSE WHO WANT SINGLE FAMILY. BUT IT HAS TO BE A BALANCE, AND IT HAS TO BE REALITY BASED, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE END UP FRUSTRATED, WE END UP HAVING ATTACKS ON OUR STAFF.

CITY MANAGER HAS TO HEAR FROM US WHEN WE CAN'T GIVE THE CAN'T GIVE THE RESPONSES FROM CODE ENVIRONMENTAL POLICE, FIRE THAT WE THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE. SO PROBABLY NOT THE BEST SPEECH THAT FOLKS WANT TO HEAR TODAY.

BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THIS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

IF IT WAS OUTLINED AND PROMISED FROM FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE, WHEN THE DESIGNERS OR DEVELOPERS CAME TO THIS CITY WHERE THERE WAS 50, 60, 70, 80 OR THE 40S, HOMEOWNERS MOVED IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY ENVIRONMENT. THAT'S THE REASON WE MOVED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WE EXPECTED TO SEE FAMILIES, SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES, AND NOT THESE STRUCTURES THAT ARE GOING UP WITH MULTIFAMILY HOTELS OF WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM NOW. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR ADVOCACY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SONG I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE IT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP ON STEPPING.

NOW, YOU CAN GOOGLE THAT ON YOUTUBE AND YOU'LL UNDERSTAND IT.

YOU HAVE TO KEEP ON STEPPING SO THAT YOU CAN GET WHAT YOU ARE ENTITLED TO GET AS A PROPERTY OWNER AND A TAXPAYER IN THIS CITY.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AND I ENJOY WHAT WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THROUGH THE YEARS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE. THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS YOU SPOKE ABOUT.

BECAUSE WHAT YOU DID WAS YOU VERY PERFECTLY ARTICULATED THE NEED TO PROTECT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH WE'VE SEEN GO FROM MORE THAN 55% OF OUR CITY TO LESS THAN 45%, AND WE ARE GOING TO BECOME A CITY OF ALL RENTALS OR ALL MULTIFAMILY. AND THIS IS PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE, FRANKLY, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER IS THE MOST ENGAGED PERSON IN OUR CITY. THEY HAVE THE MOST TO LOSE.

THEY ARE SHOWING UP AT CITY HALL. THEY ARE VOTERS.

THEY HAVE A LONG TERM OUTLOOK. AND WHILE WE DO HAVE SOME LONG TERM RENTERS, IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO MOVE WHEN YOU'RE A RENTER.

AND WE'VE ALL DONE IT BECAUSE WE'VE ALL BEEN RENTERS.

BUT WHEN YOU PLANT YOUR FEET AND YOU TAKE OUT A MORTGAGE AND YOU COMMIT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'RE INVESTED IN THE LONG TERM OUTCOME OF WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

AND SO WHAT YOU SAID WAS VERY MEANINGFUL. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HOMEOWNERS HERE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT THIS WILL HAVE IN THEIR AREA AND THEIR INVESTMENT, AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO LISTEN TO THEM.

THE OTHER THING THAT SORT OF COME OUT THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT ACTUALLY WE SHOULD BE CALLING CODE, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS ENTIRE COMPLEX IS BEING USED FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL TODAY.

WHICH NUMBER ONE, ARE THEY REGISTERED? AND NUMBER TWO DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY'RE ABLE TO DO UNDER THE ORDINANCE WE PASSED SINCE IT'S LESS THAN 20 UNITS. SO THE THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ANDREA, ABOUT THE SUBDISTRICTS OF THE DISTRICTS, WE'VE GOT TO STOP AT SOME POINT. WE'VE GOT TO SIMPLIFY OUR CODE AND JUST MAKING UP A WHOLE NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR ANYBODY AT THEIR WHIM SO THEY CAN HAVE WHAT THEY WANT. AND THEN WE'LL JUST ADD THAT THIS WAS A PLAN.

COMMISSIONERS PROPERTY. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THIS THAT ARE PRETTY DISTASTEFUL TO ME.

SO AGAIN, WE'LL BE VOTING NO. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z4.

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IT'S DISCRIMINATORY AND IT IS DISGUSTING, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD DO BETTER IN MAKING OUR POINT TO DISCUSS POLICY WITHOUT DIMINISHING THE IMPORTANCE OF ANY RESIDENT THAT CALLS THE CITY OF DALLAS HOME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS SCHULTZ, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE ON ITEMS FOR.

THANK YOU SIR. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOME MISINFORMATION THAT'S PUT OUT THERE.

AND THAT IS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE RESPONSE RATE, THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS.

SO THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF SINGLE FAMILY VERSUS MULTIFAMILY.

IT'S NOT EVEN AN ISSUE OF ANYTHING AGAINST HOTELS.

SO THE SINGLE FAMILY PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SUPPORT THAT SURROUND THIS ACTUALLY SUPPORT THIS.

SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE TELL THE TRUTH HERE.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ZONING ITEM Z4 SEEING NONE.

RECORD VOTE PLEASE RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED AND IT'S BEEN GRANTED. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. ABSTAIN. COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ARNOLD. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NARVAEZ. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. NO. COUNCILMEMBER. WILLIS. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

RIDLEY. NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. YES.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

MAYOR JOHNSON. NO. WITH SEVEN VOTING IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSED.

ONE ABSENT. VOTE TAKEN ONE ABSTAIN. THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR NEXT ITEM. ITEM SIX.

[Z6. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit for a vehicle display, sales and service use on property zoned Subarea 2, within Planned Development District No. 366, the Buckner Boulevard Special Purpose District with a D-1 Dry Liquor Control Overlay, on the west line of Conner Drive, south of Bruton Road]

SALES AND SERVICE USE ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF CONNOR DRIVE, SOUTH OF BRUTON ROAD.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 18 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM C6? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? YES, MR. MAYOR, I MOVED TO THE FURTHEST ITEM TO JUNE 11TH, 2025.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR. RESENDEZ? NO, SIR.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE.

AYES HAVE IT. ITEMS DEFERRED. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ITEM C7 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING THE RENEWAL OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1653 FOR A

[Z7. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting the renewal of Specific Use Permit No. 1653 for a potentially incompatible industrial (outside) use limited to wood or lumber processing on property zoned an IM Industrial Manufacturing District with existing deed restrictions [Z056-308], on the north side of Manana Drive, east of Spangler Road]

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

ALL SPEAKERS HAVE. ALL SPEAKERS HAVE ADDRESSED THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.

MR. MAYOR, THIS IS ITEM C7. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN, I'M JUST GOING TO WAIT FOR YOU TO.

OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION? THE MOTION. IS THERE A MOTION? THERE IS A MOTION. MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO JUNE 11TH, 2025.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED MULTIPLE TIMES. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, THAT CAME OUT AND SPOKE ON THIS ISSUE.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO BOTH SIDES AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

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BUT I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN WORK OUT NOW THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED ON THIS BODY RECENTLY.

AND I JUST WANT TO SEE IF I CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH BOTH TO WHERE IT CAN BE A WIN FOR THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS, AS WELL AS A WIN FOR THE BUSINESS THAT'S THERE, AND HOPEFULLY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT WE DID SIMILARLY IN 20 18.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? Z7. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. ITEMS DEFERRED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM Z9 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN F.

[Z9. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an FRTN F-Residential Transition Subdistrict on property zoned an R-5(A) Single Family Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the southeast line of Elsie Faye Heggins Street, southwest of Myrtle Street]

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 30 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z9? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION ON Z9? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.

IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM? NO, SIR. AND DISCUSSION AT ANYONE. SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. ITEM EIGHT. ITEM Z8 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR ONE.

[Z8. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for (1) an IM Industrial Manufacturing District; and (2) a Specific Use Permit for a potentially incompatible industrial (outside) use, limited to asphalt or concrete batching on property zoned IR Industrial Research District, on northeast corner of Spangler Road and Mañana Drive]

LIMITED TO ASPHALT OR CONCRETE BATCHING ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SPANGLER ROAD AND WINONA DRIVE.

MISTER MAYOR, WE SENT 11 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION DUE TO THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION VOTE OF THE RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, THE ITEM NEEDS A QUARTER VOTE TO PASS. YOU DO HAVE EIGHT INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

AFTER, IT WILL BE OPEN TO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO ON THIS ITEM.

PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. STATE YOUR INQUIRY. THE THREE QUARTERS VOTE NEEDED IS THAT OF THE 15 MEMBERS, OR THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE VOTE.

OF THE 15 MEMBERS. SO 1212 AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO PASS.

YES. THANK YOU. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER. CATHERINE GUERRA.

HELLO AGAIN, CATHERINE GUERRA, DISTRICT NINE.

I'M HERE AS CHAIR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE AGAIN, THE CITY'S ACTIONS ON THIS PARK SPACE HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR.

I THINK SOMEBODY ASKED WHO PUT THIS SOCCER FIELD IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THIS INDUSTRY? AND IT WAS VOTERS, WITH THE HELP OF CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL, BEGINNING WITH THE 1998 BOND ELECTION AND AGAIN IN 2003, ONCE AGAIN IN 2006, WITH A TOTAL BOND INVESTMENT OF $31 MILLION.

EACH OF THOSE THREE BOND PROPOSITIONS PASS WITH 80% SUPPORT.

IN 2002, THE CITY IDENTIFIED THE SOCCER COMPLEX AS A HIGH PRIORITY NEED IN ITS PARK RENAISSANCE PLAN.

THE CITY HAS PREVIOUSLY DENIED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES, INCLUDING ROCK CRUSHERS IN THE TRINITY EAST GAS PLANT.

WE SETTLED THAT LAWSUIT JUST LAST YEAR WITH ANOTHER $55 MILLION IN BOND FUNDS.

THIS DECISION DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ALL OR NOTHING.

I BELIEVE INDUSTRY CAN OPERATE AT AN APPROPRIATE AND SAFE DISTANCE FROM RECREATIONAL SPACES, BUT THIS APPLICANT IS NOT EVEN 200FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT IS WHY THE PARK IS INCLUDED IN THE REQUIRED NOTIFICATION AREA.

IN THE CITY'S CASE REPORT, THE T-C-E-Q CONSIDERS 1300FT TO BE THE APPROPRIATE DISTANCE FROM BATCH PLANTS FROM OTHER SENSITIVE USES.

THE TREE LINE BUFFER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARK THAT WAS MENTIONED DURING THE PREVIOUS MEETING, THAT'S ALSO PARK PROPERTY.

THE CITY HAS PLANS TO ACTIVATE IT AS PARK SPACE, AND HAS BEEN ACTIVELY DISCUSSING AND IDENTIFYING FUNDING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

IT MAY NOT BE THERE THE TREES THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO PLANT WON'T MATURE FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT TEN YEARS.

INDUSTRY FOLLOWS THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.

THEY CHOSE THIS AREA DESPITE THE CITY'S INVESTMENT AND THE WILL OF THE VOTERS, WITHOUT THE INPUT FROM THE CITY OR THOSE VOTERS.

ONCE AGAIN, UNTIL VERY RECENTLY IN 2022, WHEN WE CHANGED THE CONCRETE BATCH PLANT ZONING CODES, THOSE USES WERE ALLOWED BY RIGHT. SEVEN OF THE EIGHT NEARBY CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS RECEIVED THEIR TCSEC AIR QUALITY PERMIT IN 20 2012, OR AFTER SOME OF Y'ALL SAT ON THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, OR EVEN ON THIS CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION OF THIS PARK'S CONSTRUCTION FROM 2007

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BUT TODAY YOU HAVE A SAY AND THIS DECISION WILL BE ATTRIBUTED TO YOU FOR YEARS TO COME BECAUSE YOU'D BE THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL IN MANY YEARS, DESPITE ALL OF OUR EFFORTS TO BUILD AND PROTECT THIS PARK, TO INTENTIONALLY UPZONE TO A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE NEXT TO THIS PARK.

I WAS LISTENING TO THE COUNCIL MEETING EARLIER, AND I HEARD A COUNCIL MEMBER SAY, IF DALLAS IS GOING TO BE A SPORTS CITY, WE NEED TO BE PLANNING FOR THAT FULL SCALE. THESE YOUNG ATHLETES ARE THE FUTURE OF DALLAS SPORTS.

PLEASE VOTE TO DENY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TIM DICKEY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. TIM DICKEY, 3134 LOCHMOOR LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75220.

I'M MAINLY I'VE SAID A LOT. YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY IT, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING I REALLY WANT TO CLEAR UP THAT I THINK WAS A BIG MISSTATEMENT AT THE LAST HEARING THAT IT WAS TWO MILES THAT THIS THIS APPLICATION WAS TWO MILES FROM MONEYGRAM SOCCER FIELDS.

WELL, I SENT A GRAPHIC TO THE CITY SECRETARY.

I HOPE YOU ALL GOT IT. IT'S AN AERIAL VIEW, AND IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE PROPERTY LINE OF THIS PROPERTY IS LESS THAN 300FT FROM THE SOCCER FIELD.

SO THAT'S JUST JUST GOT TO BE UNDERSTOOD IN A FACT.

AND THE SECOND REALLY IMPORTANT THING IS THE PREVAILING WINDS IN THIS AREA.

11 MONTHS OF THE YEAR, ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, 11 MONTHS OF THE YEAR, THEY GO SOUTH TO NORTH. WELL, THE GOOD NEWS THERE IS THE BIG BATCH PLANT THAT'S ON THE NORTHWEST END OF THE SOCCER PARK.

THE WINDS TEND TO BLOW AWAY EVEN THOUGH IT'S VERY CLOSE.

THIS ONE, IF YOU PASS IT, IT'S GOING TO BE BLOWING RIGHT ON OUR SOCCER FIELDS.

AND THE WINDS ARE VERY STRONG OUT THERE AT TIMES.

AND SO THOSE FINE PARTICULATES WILL BE GOING RIGHT ONTO OUR SOCCER FIELDS.

AND THE SECOND THING I WANT TO CLEAR UP IS THIS VACANT LAND THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS PART OF THE ELM FORK ATHLETIC COMPLEX.

AND MISS GUERRA REFERRED TO THIS. BUT THE PARK DEPARTMENT HAS LONG HAD PLANS TO DEVELOP THIS AS AN OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL AREA, PENDING BOND FUNDING. SO THIS BUFFER ZONE IS RIGHT NEXT RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPOSED FACILITY AND THE TREES THAT ARE BUFFER THERE. SO THIS WILL ALL BE DEVELOPED.

THE LONG TERM PLANNING FOR THE PARK DEPARTMENT DEFINITELY INTENDS FOR THIS TO BE PART OF THE ELM FORK ATHLETIC COMPLEX.

SO I WAS JUST WOULD REPEAT THAT YOU'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND NOT PUT THIS DANGEROUS PARTICULATES THAT KIDS PLAYING SOCCER WILL BE BREATHING HUNDRED THOUSAND PLUS KIDS THERE ON THE SOCCER FIELDS ON THE WEEKENDS.

WELL, THAT'S AN ANNUAL FIGURE, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S NOT POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY INCOMPATIBLE, IN MY OPINION. AND I JUST HOPE YOU'LL MAKE THE DECISION TO START TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WHEN IT COMES TO THESE PLANTS THAT REQUIRE SOME NEXT TO OUR PARK PROPERTIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GARRETT BOONE HAS CANCELED JOSHUA MENHENNITT.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL, BUT JOSHUA MENHENNITT THREE SIX, THREE SIX MCKINNEY AVENUE, DALLAS, TEXAS. THAT VIDEO COULD BE PLAYED. PLAYED RIGHT NOW.

PLEASE. LOOK.

AT J IMPERIUM. WE BELIEVE BUILDING A BETTER CITY STARTS WITH DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND OUR FUTURE. WE ARE PROUD TO BE THE ONLY LOCAL, MINORITY OWNED, READY MIXED CONCRETE PROVIDER IN NORTH TEXAS.

AND OUR MISSION IS SIMPLE TO DELIVER HIGH QUALITY, LOW EMISSION MATERIALS THAT FUEL DALLAS GROWTH RESPONSIBLY.

AND J. IMPERIUM IS CONSTANTLY CONTRIBUTING TO THE RAPID GROWTH OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHETHER IT'S PROVIDING CONCRETE FOR DRIVEWAYS AND SIDEWALKS AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS PARKS LIKE KLYDE WARREN OR HALPERN PARK, OR BIG INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS LIKE THE MILL CREEK TUNNEL OR S.M.

WRIGHT FREEWAY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. J IMPERIUM HELPS ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF THE CITY EVERY DAY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

LET'S CLEAR SOMETHING UP. OUR PROPOSED SITE AT 2001 MANANA IS NOT ONLY FARTHER AWAY FROM THE SOCCER FIELDS THAN SURROUNDING BATCH PLANTS, BUT IS SHIELDED BY OVER 20 ACRES OF DENSE TREE COVERAGE AND LOCATED IN AN ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL ZONE ALREADY HOME TO AT LEAST SIX EXISTING BATCH PLANTS THAT SERVE THE CITY OF DALLAS AND NEIGHBORING CITIES. THIS AREA HAS LONG BEEN DESIGNATED FOR INDUSTRIAL USE.

IT'S WHERE BUSINESSES LIKE OURS ARE MEANT TO OPERATE.

THE MONEYGRAM SOCCER FIELDS, BUILT IN 2014, WERE DEVELOPED DIRECTLY ON TOP OF A FORMER LANDFILL,

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THIS ZONING WAS REAFFIRMED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, WHEN COUNCIL ADOPTED THE CITY'S UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR DALLAS 2.0.

THE REALITY IS, DALLAS NEEDS RESPONSIBLE BUSINESSES LIKE OURS TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S GROWTH AND WHAT SETS HIM APART IS OUR COMMITMENT TO DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY.

JAY IMPERIUM GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND. WE EXCEED THE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS SET BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

WE USE ADVANCED DUST FILTRATION TO KEEP EMISSIONS FROM BEING AN ISSUE, ALONG WITH SOUND MITIGATING SYSTEMS. WHILE MONEYGRAM SITS WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL ZONE, WE BELIEVE IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT WE CO-EXIST RESPECTFULLY AND SUSTAINABLY. THAT'S WHY JAY IMPERIUM IS COMMITTED TO GENUINE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, LISTENING TO CONCERNS, COLLABORATING ON SOLUTIONS, AND WORKING TOGETHER TO KEEP OUR FAMILIES SAFE.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. THANK YOU ALL. AND THAT'S THE PRESENTATION FOR ME.

THANK YOU, DANIEL HUNT.

DANIEL HUNT, 3700 EUCLID AVENUE. MAYOR JOHNSON AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.

I OPPOSE THE PROPOSED BATCH PLAN, AND FRANKLY, ALL OF THE INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO MONEYGRAM SOCCER PARK.

MONEYGRAM SOCCER PARK IS TRULY A CROWN JEWEL FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT IS ONE OF THE FINEST SOCCER AND SPORTS COMPLEX IN AMERICA, FRANKLY THE WORLD.

IT HAS HOSTED WORLD CUP BOUND NATIONAL TEAMS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO KIDS KICKING THEIR VERY FIRST SOCCER BALL, INCLUDING MY SIX AND NINE YEAR OLD DAUGHTERS.

MONEYGRAM SOCCER PARK COST THE CITY OF DALLAS $35 MILLION TO BUILD.

FC DALLAS HAS SPENT AROUND $16 MILLION TO OPERATE THE PARK.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE AN APPROXIMATE $6 MILLION CHARGE FOR OVERHEAD THAT WE ABSORB AT FC DALLAS AT THE CORPORATE LEVEL.

IN TOTAL, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND FC DALLAS HAVE SPENT ALMOST $60 MILLION ON BUILDING, MANAGING AND OPERATING MONEYGRAM SOCCER PARK CURRENTLY, WE AVERAGE BETWEEN 500 AND 600,000 VISITORS PER YEAR, WITH AN ECONOMIC IMPACT RANGING BETWEEN 30 AND $60 MILLION ANNUALLY. I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE LEVEL THAT POLLUTION WILL INCREASE BY, WITH ONE ADDITIONAL BATCH PLANT ADJACENT TO MONEYGRAM SOCCER PARK.

I CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT STUDIES SHOW THAT CHILDREN ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY SUSCEPTIBLE TO LUNG AND HEALTH ISSUES WHEN THERE IS AN INCREASE IN AIRBORNE PARTICULATES, WITH THE LION'S SHARE OF USERS BEING CHILDREN AND YOUNG PEOPLE.

WE SHOULD ALL BE CONCERNED BY THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF MULTIPLE INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS.

WE HAVE A FIRST CLASS COMMUNITY ASSET THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT FOR GENERATIONS TO COME, AND GENERATE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT OUR COMMUNITY AND TAXPAYERS DESERVE.

I ASK THAT YOU OPPOSE ANY NEW INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING OPERATIONS IN THE AREA.

I APPLAUD THE APPLICANT ON HIS DESIRE TO GROW HIS BUSINESS.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT THERE ARE OTHER AREAS BETTER SUITED FOR IT WHERE WE DON'T PUT VISITORS AND ECONOMIC IMPACT AT RISK.

SIMPLY PUT, DOING SOMETHING FOR THE BENEFIT OF ONE BUSINESS THAT COULD BE HARMFUL TO HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF BUSINESSES IS BAD BUSINESS.

ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I SPEND EVERY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AT MONEYGRAM SOCCER PARK AND YOU COULD NOT PICK A WORSE LOCATION FOR A BATCH PLANT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THOSE FIELDS, WITH THE WINDS BLOWING FROM SOUTH TO NORTH SOME DAYS OVER 30 MILES AN HOUR.

THIS IS JUST BAD FOR THE PARTICIPANTS THERE. AND HONESTLY, GIVEN THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE PRODUCED HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

LET'S NOT DO THINGS TO PUT THAT AT RISK. THANK YOU.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

JOHN MARTINEZ. JOHN MARTINEZ. 3145 DALLAS DALLAS, TEXAS. 75241. DISTRICT THREE.

I DON'T I WANT TO START WITH ONE. FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE HERE, AND I NEVER TAKE IT LIGHTLY WHEN I COME TO SPEAK BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE.

AND I'VE NEVER RUN FOR OFFICE, AND I KNOW NO DECISION IS AN EASY DECISION, BUT I LOOK AT IT FROM A SMALL BUSINESS POINT OF VIEW, AND I NEED TO VISUALIZE THINGS.

SO MY FATHER WAS AN ORPHAN, AND DURING THE DEPRESSION, HE WAS HISPANIC.

SO THEY DIDN'T GO TO ORPHANAGES. THEY JUST GAVE HIM TO A FAMILY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

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SO HIS JOB WAS TO GET THE WAGE EARNERS HAT, ACT AS THE PERSON WOULD GO TO WORK EVERY MORNING AND THE LADY WOULD MOVE THE HAT. IT HANG ON A NAIL AND SHE WOULD MOVE THE NAIL.

AS MY DAD GOT OLDER AND AS MY DAD STRETCHED TO GET THE HAT.

SHE WOULD PINCH MY DAD, RIGHT? AND SO IMAGINE HIM FROM TWO TILL HE HAD ENOUGH SENSE TO LEAVE AT 12 YEARS OLD.

THAT WAS HIS LIFE. AS HE GOT TALLER, HE JUST GOT PINCHED, PINCHED, PINCHED TILL HE GOT THAT HAT.

SO THE HAT KEPT MOVING EVEN THOUGH HE KEPT GROWING.

THAT'S WHERE I FEEL THAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE RIGHT NOW.

I CAME IN, I STARTED WORKING AT THE CITY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW WE HELPED SMALL BUSINESSES.

NOW, WHETHER I'M AT AUSTIN, I'M IN HOUSTON, I'M IN DALLAS.

I'M SEEING THAT NAIL MOVE, RIGHT? I'M SEEING SMALL BUSINESSES.

YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS THE INDUSTRIAL AREA. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT YOU TO BE.

I SEE THE SMALL BUSINESSES GO THERE, AND THEN WE MOVE THE NAIL, RIGHT? AND THEN WE'RE PINCHING, PUT SOME TREES AND WE'RE PINCHING.

DO SOMETHING ELSE AND WE'RE PINCHING. HEY, THAT'S WHERE I'M FEELING.

I'M NOT A FRIEND OF BJ'S. IN FACT, I'VE NEVER EVEN HAD LUNCH WITH A MAN.

I AM A FRIEND OF THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE TO EMPLOY PEOPLE AND HAVE TO FEED FAMILIES SO THEY CAN LIVE.

AND I'M ALSO AFRAID THAT CODE MEANS IT SHOULD BE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANOTHER AREA. IS IT IN SOUTH DALLAS WHERE I LIVE? BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD WANT IT IN THERE. SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT THAT CODE AS WELL.

AND I DON'T WANT TO BELITTLE ANY KIDS. I HAVE GRANDKIDS, BUT ARE THESE KIDS CAMPING OUT AND LIVING THERE? OR THEY'RE JUST PLAYING 1 OR 2 HOURS ON THE WEEKEND AND A COUPLE OF HOURS PRACTICING? I'M NOT I'M NOT TRYING TO BELITTLE. HEALTH IS IMPORTANT.

I'M NOT DOING THAT. BUT SOMETIMES I THINK THE CONVERSATIONS ARE THEY'RE LIVING THERE, AND I GO TO PRACTICE WITH MY GRANDKIDS AND THEY PRACTICE FOR ABOUT AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF, AND WE'RE OUT OF THERE. AND IF YOU DON'T LEAVE, THEY KICK YOU OUT.

AND THEN WE PLAY THERE AND WE'RE THERE 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR AND WE'RE OUT OF THERE AGAIN.

RIGHT. SO I WOULD WEIGH ON THE SIDE OF SMALL BUSINESS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WILLIS. JOHNSON.

MAYOR. JOHNSON, CITY MANAGER. COUNCIL. I'M HERE AGAIN AS A FATHER.

BJ IS MY SON. HE IS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. BJ WAS 15.

HE WAS ON THE VARSITY AND HE WAS PLAYING AGAINST 18 YEAR OLDS.

HE MADE ALL REGION. AND THEN AT HE BECAME ALL-STATE JUNIOR AND SENIOR YEAR.

SAME SITUATION AS A FRESHMAN AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, BUT HE MADE ALL-AMERICAN AS A FRESHMAN, AND HE GOES DOWN AS ONE OF THE TOP TEN RECEIVERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, SO UPHILL BATTLES ARE NOT NEW TO HIM. HE JUST NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.

HE'S ADAPTABLE BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE RULES CHANGE, AND THAT IS FOR SURE THE CASE HERE.

THE RULES HAVE CHANGED SEVERAL TIMES. DUST COLLECTOR SYSTEM.

TALLER FENCE CHANGED THE GATE. GO FROM FIVE YEARS TO THREE YEARS.

HE SAID YES TO ALL OF THAT. AND IN THOSE THREE YEARS, IN HIS FRESHMAN YEAR WITH THE BIG BOYS, ARE I ASKED THAT HE'S TREATED WITH THE SAME RULES AS THEY ARE.

MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN ADDED TO MONEYGRAM PARK.

APART SINCE IT WAS PUT IN. WHY IS THIS ONE DIFFERENT? WHAT'S SO DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ONE? J IMPERIUM DID NOT MOVE INTO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

IT MOVED INTO AN AREA THAT'S ZONED FOR BATCH PLANTS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. THAT'S WHERE HE WENT. THERE IS A BATCH PLANT ON BOTTOM, JOHN, IN ZIP CODE 75215. AND ACROSS THE STREET THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THERE RIGHT NOW.

ALSO ENCASED IN THAT IS SAINT PHILIP SCHOOL. I'VE HEARD NO ONE COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT BATCH PLANT, AND IT'S BEEN THERE AND IT'S PERMANENT. AS FOR THE SOCCER FIELDS, BJ'S PLANT IS NOT NEXT TO A SOCCER FIELD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN SAY.

WE'VE DONE VIDEOS FROM THE GROUND LEVEL ZONE FROM A DRONE LEVEL.

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BJ SIMPLY WANTS TO OPERATE HIS BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WHERE HE CAN SERVE THIS CITY.

JUST SAY WHAT THE RULES ARE AND HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S TREATED THE SAME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BJ JOHNSON.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS. CITY MANAGER BJ JOHNSON, 1313 MAVERICK DRIVE, MANSFIELD, TEXAS. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN.

NOW, WHEN I STARTED THIS PROCESS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I CAME TO COUNCILMAN OMAR AND ASKED HIM, WOULD THIS BE A GOOD LOCATION TO PUT A BATCH PLANT? HE DIDN'T HESITATE. HIS ZONED FOR IT. SO I SAID, OKAY, I'LL MOVE FORWARD IF THERE'S NO ISSUES.

WELL, A YEAR LATER, I'M HERE. I KEEP HEARING 300FT.

I WAS OUT THERE YESTERDAY. IF THE 300FT IS CONSIDERED WHERE THE TREE LINE IS, THAT'S NEXT TO THE RAILROAD LINE.

IF THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE PUTTING SOME NEW SOCCER FIELDS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO RETHINK THAT.

NOW, I KEEP HEARING THE WIND. I'M SOUTH. BURNCOAT IS NORTH.

I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND. WHY IS IT THAT YOU KNOW BURNCOAT SRM, MARTIN MARIETTA, THESE GUYS, THE BIG BOYS, THE BILLION DOLLAR COMPANIES, THEY CAN OPERATE PERMANENTLY FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.

THEY'RE ALLOWED TO OPERATE THEIR BATCH PLANTS.

BUT I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT'S HAVING SOME CONSIDERATIONS.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED ME ON 4.2, 2.0.

EXCUSE ME. I'VE WORKED WITH THE STAFF. THE STAFF HAS COME BACK TO ME, ASKED ME FOR MORE THINGS AND I'VE AGREED TO IT.

I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG. AND AS A FORMER ATHLETE, WHEN YOUR COACH BRINGS YOU A NEW PLAYBOOK, YOU RUN THE PLAYS. YOU DON'T GET EXCORIATED FROM RUNNING THE RIGHT PLAY.

WELL, I'VE RUN THE RIGHT PLAYS THAT Y'ALL HAVE CALLED.

THIS BODY HAS PUT FORWARD 2.0 IN PLACE AND I FOLLOW THE RULES.

I JUST ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE I'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG.

I DIDN'T BUILD THE SOCCER FIELDS. ALL I WANT TO DO IS OPERATE A BUSINESS.

I HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CITY OF DALLAS CONTRACTS THAT I WANT TO SEND MUD TO, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT IF I'M NOT OPERATING.

I ASK THAT Y'ALL CONSIDER THE SITUATION AT HAND, AND HOPEFULLY YOU GO OUT AND YOU VISIT 2001 MANANA AND YOU ACTUALLY SEE WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT COMPARED TO WHAT MONEYGRAM IS.

AND AGAIN, I'M A FOOTBALL COACH. I COACH MY OWN KIDS.

I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH ENVIRONMENTAL. I'M ALL ABOUT THAT.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M NOT POLLUTING THE AIR.

I'M NOT CAUSING ANY ISSUES. I JUST WANT TO RUN A REPUTABLE COMPANY AND HIRE LOCAL PEOPLE.

I HOPE THAT Y'ALL CONSIDER THIS SNP AND OUR FAVOR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS BY SHOW OF HANDS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? I SEE TWO BOTH OF YOU GUYS CAN COME FORWARD AND WHOEVER GETS TO THE PODIUM FIRST CAN GO AHEAD AND BEGIN.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

LET'S GO. ALRIGHTY. GOOD EVENING. I KNOW Y'ALL ARE SO TIRED AT THIS POINT.

BUT HERE I GO. MY NAME IS RENE PROCTOR. I'M AT 2627 MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD REPRESENTING THE REGIONAL BLACK CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION.

ONCE AGAIN, I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF BCA MEMBER MR. JOHNSON WITH J. IMPERIUM LLC. ALRIGHTY. SO OF COURSE, AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, I DID WANT TO THANK MISS THERESA BLUE FOR ALL THAT SHE'S DONE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. RIGHT NOW. SO WE'VE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED STIPULATIONS, AND WE DO RESPECT THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WE'RE HONESTLY ASKING FOR CONSISTENCY AND FAIRNESS IN HOW THESE CONDITIONS ARE GOING TO BE APPLIED.

SO RIGHT NOW, OF COURSE, AS WE KNOW, BATCH PLANTS LIKE BURN CO IS OPERATING WITH A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

SRM AND MARTIN MARIETTA BOTH HAVE PERMANENT SPECIAL USE PERMITS.

AND MR. JOHNSON HAS NOT BEEN GRANTED AN SUP. AND THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS INCLUDING A A REDUCTION IN THE OPERATING TERM FROM FIVE YEARS TO THREE YEARS.

ALONG WITH ADDING ADDED CONDITIONS SUCH AS THE TREE PLANTING, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE ALREADY ROUGHLY TWO MILES OF NATURAL BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPOSED SITE AND THE SOCCER FIELDS. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WE REALLY MUST ASK,

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HE HAS EXPRESSED A CLEAR WILLINGNESS TO DO WHAT'S NECESSARY TO WORK IN THE CITY.

BUT THE CONDITIONS BEING PLACED ON HIS BUSINESS APPEAR STEEPER THAN THOSE THAT ARE FACED BY OTHERS.

AT THE BCA, WE WE ADVOCATE FOR EQUITABLE TREATMENT OF ALL CONTRACTORS AND BUSINESS OWNERS, ESPECIALLY OUR BLACK OWNED AND MINORITY OWNED MEMBERS FAIRNESS MUST BE AT THE CORE OF OUR ZONING AND PERMITTING PROCESSES.

WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT J.M. PERRIAM BE GIVEN THE SAME CONSIDERATION AND OPPORTUNITIES AS THE OTHER OPERATORS IN THIS AREA.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR. MY NAME IS RONNIE MESTAS, 3215 RUT STREET, WEST DALLAS, TEXAS.

MAN, I JUST THIS IS A TOUGH ONE, YOU KNOW? I UNDERSTAND THE MINORITY AND THE BUSINESS OF.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT A BLACK OR BROWN OR WHITE ISSUE.

THIS IS ABOUT A DIRTY INDUSTRY, AND IT'S A DIRTY INDUSTRY THAT WHEN THAT PROMISE OR WHEN THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE ABOUT BUILDING A DIRTY INDUSTRY IN THE IN DISTRICT SIX AND I CARE ABOUT DISTRICT SIX, THE WHOLE AREA, NOT JUST MY OWN, BECAUSE WE THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED AT.

WE STARTED EIGHT YEARS AGO. NO BATCH PLANTS, NO DIRTY INDUSTRIES BEHIND OUR SCHOOLS.

YOU KNOW, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IF YOU GO OUT TO MONEYGRAM PARK, IT'S OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PARK, BUT IT'S SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF BAD STUFF, ESPECIALLY THE INDUSTRIES.

AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE EIGHT YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO GET RID OF THIS STUFF OUT OF OUR INDUSTRY BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WISH IT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE FIRST THING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE IT, TAKE IT OVER TO YOUR SIDE OF TOWN? I WOULDN'T WISH THAT ON ANYONE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HAVING A CHILD OR EVEN AN ADULT SUFFER WITH LUNG DISEASES OR ANY KIND OF ILLNESS FROM THE HEALTH ILLNESS, FROM THIS, THIS INDUSTRY, YOU JUST YOU DON'T WANT THAT ON ANYONE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE AND IT HAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME KIND OF SOLUTION.

AND I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A MEETING OF SOME KIND TO GET A SOLUTION.

SO EVERYBODY GETS A FAIR SHAKE AND THERE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER SIDE.

YOU KNOW, FOR ME, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I JUST FOR ME, DISTRICT SIX DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE DIRTY INDUSTRY. IT HAS TO BE A CAP. THERE HAS TO BE THAT THAT LINE IN THE SAND.

YOU KNOW THAT. OKAY. YOU KNOW, IT MAY NOT MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S GOING TO MAKE SOME KIND OF DIFFERENCE.

AND WE CAN START THE CONVERSATION WITH THIS GENTLEMAN.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING A FAIR SHAKE OR NOT. YOU KNOW THAT'S EIGHT YEARS HERE.

I MET MISS CONNOLLY 15 YEARS AGO AND SHE'S BEEN FIGHTING A LONG TIME.

AND I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE AS LONG AS SHE HAS. BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST THERE'S A POINT WHERE IT HAS TO STOP AND START ALL OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THAT'S THAT. WHAT IS CHANGE? CHANGE CHANGES, STARTING OVER AGAIN.

SOME PEOPLE MIGHT LIKE IT, SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT. BUT I HOPE YOU WILL NOT DENY IT JUST TO BE DENYING AN INDUSTRY, BUT DENY IT BECAUSE OF THE PERSONAL AND THE EFFECT THAT IT HAS ON THE ON ON PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY NOT EVEN LIVE IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S FOR ME, FOR DISTRICT SIX.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR. PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS RUDY KARIMI, 62, 14 GOLIAD COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 RESIDENT AND DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION BOARD REPRESENTATIVE.

OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, OUR CITY HAS MADE EXTRAORDINARY STRIDES IN BUILDING ONE OF THE MOST DYNAMIC PARK SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY.

JUST LAST WEEK, WE RECEIVED MORE PROOF OF THAT WHEN OUR PARKS SCORE JUMPED FOR THE FIFTH CONSECUTIVE YEAR.

AND IF YOU'RE A PARK FANATIC LIKE ME, YOU HAVEN'T STOPPED CELEBRATING IT.

THIS KIND OF PROGRESS DOESN'T HAPPEN BY LUCK.

IT HAPPENS BY BEING INTENTIONAL. IT HAPPENS WHEN THE PEOPLE OF A CITY AND ITS LEADERSHIP INTENTIONALLY CHOOSE GREEN SPACE OVER GRAY SPACE.

WE HAVEN'T JUST BUILT PARKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE'VE BUILT THEM OVER HIGHWAYS AT KLYDE, WARREN AND SOUTHERN GATE, SOUTHERN GATEWAY, AND EVEN UNDERNEATH THEM AT CARPENTER.

AND IN MONEYGRAM'S CASE, WE'VE BUILT THEM IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS, TOO.

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WE DID THE IMPOSSIBLE. OUR PARKS ARE ONE OF OUR CITY'S GREATEST SUCCESS STORIES.

WE DON'T NEED TO ASK WHY DID WE BUILD A PARK THERE? WE NEED TO ASK WHY DID WE NOT BUILD A PARK THERE? WHY WERE KIDS NOT PLAYING THERE? WHY WERE COMMUNITIES NOT BROUGHT TOGETHER THERE? THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE NEED TO BE CALLING UPON.

DIRECTOR JENKINS TO ANSWER, NOT. WHY DID YOU BUILD A PARK THERE? AND FOR THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO REVERSE COURSE.

THE VOTE TODAY IS MORE THAN IN JUST ABOUT ANOTHER PARK.

IT'S ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO KEEP ADDING TO ONE OF OUR CITY'S GREATEST SUCCESS STORIES, OR IF WE WANT TO START CHIPPING AWAY AT IT. THERE ARE OTHER PLACES FOR THIS BATCH PLANT.

LET'S PROTECT WHAT WE'VE BUILT. LET'S DEFEND PLACES WHERE DALLAS COMES ALIVE.

LET'S REMIND EVERYONE WHAT WE'RE MOST PROUD OF.

I URGE YOU, PLEASE VOTE DOWN THIS BATCH PLANT NEAR GRAND PARK.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD.

MR. MAYOR, MADAM MANAGER, MADAM SECRETARY, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

JOHN WILEY PRICE, 510 EAST FIFTH STREET. IN DALLAS, TEXAS, 75203.

I SAT THERE AND DELIBERATED ABOUT WHY I WOULD COME AND JUST DO A REPEAT OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.

I DID LIKE BJ JOHNSON SAID. I TOOK A STROLL AND I WENT DOWN.

BOTH OF JOHN AND I SAW THE SRM BATCH PLANT, BUT I ALSO WENT OFF INTO MY DISTRICT AND BY THE WAY, THAT IS IN MY DISTRICT. THIS IS NOT NEW TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THE SAME FIVE ZIP CODES FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ELECTED.

ACCORDING TO THE CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL 75215.

AND YOU HEAR TALKING ABOUT PARTICULATE MATTER, WHAT PARTICULATE MATTER IS INTERESTING, EXCEPT WHEN IT'S NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE LIVE. BOTH OF BOWDEN. JOHNS IS A CROSS FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE HEARD THE SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT THE THE UTILIZATION OF THESE PARKS. AND, AND I SUPPORT GREEN SPACES.

BUT BJ JOHNSON TOOK THE DIRECTION FROM THIS CITY AND THEY WENT.

HE WENT WHERE THE CITY ASKED HIM TO GO. NOW WHAT? HE'S MADE THAT INVESTMENT OF TIME AND MONEY AND YES, A TEMPORARY POSITION DOWN ON RIVERFRONT.

I DIDN'T EXPECT HIM TO GO IN THERE AND PAVE FIVE ACRES CONCRETE.

IT'S A TEMPORARY USE. AND SO I JUST CAME TODAY JUST TO SEE WHAT DOES THE PLAYING FIELD LOOK LIKE? IS THE CITY OF DALLAS CHANGING THE GOALPOST? YOU SAY THIS WAS A DESIGNATED AREA.

THAT'S WHAT HE DID. BUT I TOLD HIM EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME IN FOOTBALL THEY CALL THE PLAY. BUT MAYBE THE CITY IS TRYING TO CALL AN END AROUND.

THAT'S NOT A GOOD SIGNAL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM ITEM? SEEING NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM Z8? I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO THE SUP.

CONDITIONS. THE SUP IS APPROVED FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD WITH NO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS IN THE BUFFER YARD.

ONE LARGE LIVE OAK TREE WITH A HEIGHT GREATER THAN 12FT, MUST BE PROVIDED FOR EVERY 40 LINEAR FEET OF STREET FRONTAGE, ARRANGED IN DOUBLE STAGGERED ROWS. THESE TREES MUST BE PLACED ON THE OUTER LINE OF THE PROPERTY FENCE, AND MAY NOT BE PLACED CLOSER THAN 30FT APART.

MATERIALS STORED OUTSIDE MUST BE LOCATED IN BINS THAT ARE SCREENED ON THREE SIDES BY 12 FOOT HIGH SCREENING WALLS.

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THE FENCE MUST EITHER BE SOLID OR HAVE SCREENING ELEMENTS SUCH AS SLATS OR MESH, TO SCREEN THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY.

SCREENING AT SPANGLER ROAD AND MANANA DRIVE MUST BE PLACED DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING PAVEMENT.

MAXIMUM STOCKPILE HEIGHT FOR MATERIALS IN THE SAND AND GRAVEL STOCKPILE AREA IS EIGHT FEET.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. YES, MAYOR. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

AND AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC, WE ARE ON ZONING ITEM Z EIGHT.

WE TOOK ITEMS OUT OF ORDER TODAY. SO GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. WELL, THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING CASE.

AND I THINK THE DEBATE AROUND IT HAS BECOME ALSO VERY INTERESTING.

IT'S DEFINITELY NOT AS CUT AND DRY AS WHAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BY SEVERAL SPEAKERS.

I HAVE SEVERAL COMMUNITIES WHO ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT IN THEIR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS. THAT VERY SIGNIFICANTLY DIMINISHES THE AIR QUALITY SIGNIFICANTLY OUTPUTS PARTICULATE MATTER WHERE KIDS ARE PLAYING IN THEIR FRONT YARDS.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS AND WE'VE MADE POLICY DECISIONS TO HELP SHORE UP THOSE INEQUITIES AND THOSE PRACTICES OF OUR CITIES PAST. WHAT WE ALSO DID WAS UPDATE UPDATED AN ANTIQUATED AREA PLAN, CITY WIDE AREA PLAN IN THAT UPDATED CITY WIDE AREA PLAN.

WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE WAS ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE FROM OUR CITY'S HISTORY, AND THAT THERE WERE SPECIFIC POLICY DECISIONS THAT WE COULD MAKE IN PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY, KNOWING THAT A PART OF THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY IS GROWING, OUR CITY A PART OF GROWING OUR CITY IS CONSTRUCTION BATCH PLANTS IS A VERY ARE A VERY NECESSARY PART TO THAT. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE TO COME AT THE COMPROMISE OF RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AIR QUALITY.

THE CITY OF DALLAS ALSO MADE DECISIONS AS IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO US.

THAT FAR PREDATES THOSE OF US THAT ARE SITTING AROUND THIS HORSESHOE, AND THAT WAS TO PUT A PARK WHERE IT, QUITE FRANKLY, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. I THINK THAT IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE CONVERSATION HERE HAS TURNED INTO WHETHER OR NOT THIS BODY HAS A DECISION TO PRESERVE AND OR IMPROVE AIR QUALITY NEXT TO GREEN SPACE.

THAT COULD NOT BE ANY MORE WRONG. WE'RE IGNORING THE FACTS.

WE ARE IGNORING THE CONTEXT. WE ARE IGNORING THE FACT THAT THERE ARE, AS ALSO MENTIONED BY SPEAKERS.

BILLION DOLLAR CONGLOMERATE CORPORATE COMPANIES WHO HAVE BEEN GRANTED FOREVER THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPERATE IN THE SAME. IN FACT, IN SOME CASES IN THIS SITE, EVEN CLOSER IN PROXIMITY, WE DON'T SEE PICKET LINES AT MONEYGRAM SAYING THAT THOSE WHO ARE OPERATING THERE NEED TO GO.

ALL WE SEE IS AN OUTRAGE THAT HAS COME UP BECAUSE THIS HAS BECOME HIGH PROFILE.

THE OUTRAGE DOES NOT RESULT IN ANY JUSTICE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S VERY CLEAR.

THE OUTRAGE DOES NOT RESULT IN ANY JUSTICE. WE CAN HAVE MOMENTS ON THE MIC.

WE CAN GO BE KEYBOARD WARRIORS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

BUT THE REALITY IS THERE IS CONTEXT THAT IS MISSING FROM THIS CONVERSATION AND THAT IS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE OPERATORS IN THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THIS SITE, AND DENYING THIS DOES NOTHING OTHER THAN DENYING A SMALL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.

IT IGNORES THE FACT THAT WE HAVE CONGLOMERATES THAT ARE DOING THE SAME THING THAT WE SUPPOSEDLY ARE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING BY GETTING RID OF THIS, IF WE REALLY WANT TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE AND AIR QUALITY, THE CONVERSATION WE NEED TO BE HAVING, WHICH IS WHAT I BROUGHT UP TWO WEEKS AGO, CITY MANAGER IS WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND SPEAKING ABOUT OPTIONS MOVING FORWARD ON HOW WE CAN REMOVE THE PROBLEM. A DENIAL OF THIS DOES NOT REMOVE THE PROBLEM.

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IN FACT, OF THE PLACE THAT WE ALL PASSED AT THIS BODY.

AN AREA PLAN THAT SAID THIS IS WHERE WE WANT BATCH PLANTS THAT WE ALL TOOK THE STEPS TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY, AND WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO SAY THIS IS WHERE YOU BELONG, BECAUSE HE ALSO REPRESENTS A COMMUNITY WHO HAS BEEN PLAGUED BY THESE DECISIONS OF OUR PAST.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR PARKS DIRECTOR.

MR. JENKINS, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO MY REQUEST IN BRINGING THE PARK BOARD AND THIS BODY SOME ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS TO EXPLORE FOR FUTURE USES OF MONEYGRAM PARK AND WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO WITH ITS CURRENT LOCATION.

AND I'LL LET THAT JUST BE THE LAST QUESTION. AND THEN I'LL GO TO ROUND TWO WHENEVER. AND I WOULD I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT, BUT THE SCOPE. WE DON'T WANT TO EXPAND IT TOO MUCH BEYOND THE MERITS OF THIS APPLICATION AND TO ALTERNATIVE.

I UNDERSTAND YOU GET MY POINT. IT COULD GET A LITTLE TOO WIDE AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT.

I'M I'M KEEPING IT AS TAILORED AS POSSIBLE. JUST TRYING TO FIND THIS ONE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, BECAUSE MONEYGRAM PARK SEEMS TO BE WHAT EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE MAKING A DECISION ON TODAY. THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME LATITUDE ON IT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO GET TOO WIDE INTO IT.

I DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN INTO A TWO HOUR DEBATE ABOUT POSSIBLE LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY FOR ANOTHER SOCCER PARK. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A THANK YOU.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBER COULD YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA COULD YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC ON YOUR QUESTION WHEN YOU SAY LOCATION? I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO GIVE ME ANY GRANULAR SPECIFICS.

I'M ASKING FOR A SIMPLE YES OR NO ON RECORD ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU ALL, AS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WILL GIVE US A FULL BRIEFING TO THE PARKS BOARD, AND ALSO ONE THAT WOULD COME TO PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE, WHERE WE CAN EXPLORE POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS OF RELOCATIONS IN THE FUTURE.

OH, OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS RESPOND TO ANY REQUEST FROM THE COUNCIL.

THE ANSWER IS YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

IS THAT ALL YOUR QUESTIONS FOR YOUR ROUND? I'LL WAIT TILL ROUND TWO.

OKAY. MISS SCHULTZ, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ZONING ITEM Z8.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES, PARTICULARLY ADAM BAZALDUA AND OMAR NARVAEZ, FOR GETTING TO WORK ON EXACTLY WHAT WE ASKED Y'ALL TO DO.

SO THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CALL IT MR. WHITE FROM OUR OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

THANK YOU. DIRECTOR. I WAS LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE THAT SHOWS THE BATCH PLANTS AND THE TREES, EVERYTHING THAT'S ADJACENT. COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF TREES ON AIR QUALITY? SURE. YEAH. SO FOR THE AIR QUALITY COMING FROM A BATCH PLANT, BATCH PLANTS PRODUCE PARTICULATE MATTER 2.5 AND TEN PARTICULATE MATTER 2.5 IS QUITE A BIT SMALLER THAN PM10. THE TREE BUFFER IS GREAT FOR FILTERING OUT PM10.

YOU DEFINITELY WANT A TREE BUFFER THERE. PM 2.5 CAN FLOAT IN THE AIR FOR A LITTLE LONGER, SO THE TREES ARE A LITTLE.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY BUFFER 2.5 AS WELL, BUT IT IS GOOD IN GENERAL TO HAVE A BUFFER THERE.

BUT I WOULD SAY THERE SHOULDN'T BE THE ONLY STRATEGY.

THERE SHOULD BE A BROADER STRATEGY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE PARTICULATE MATTER.

GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND ALSO I'M GOING TO CALL DIRECTOR JENKINS BACK UP, PLEASE.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO JUST STICK AROUND JUST IN CASE.

THANK YOU. SIR. DID YOU HEAR THAT, DIRECTOR JENKINS? YOU NEED TO JUST STICK AROUND. NO, I MEANT DIRECTOR.

YES, BUT YOU TWO FOR SURE. DIRECTOR JENKINS, COULD YOU PLEASE SHARE? GIVEN THESE TREE BUFFERS THAT ARE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PLANT.

AND I THINK NEXT TO MONEYGRAM, THIS BIG ONE IS THAT CURRENTLY IS THE PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY, CURRENTLY NEXT TO A SOCCER FIELD OR NEXT TO FUTURE FIELDS.

NEXT TO IS CURRENTLY THE PLAN AREA THAT YOU JUST.

I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON, BUT WHAT I COULD SEE THE PLAN AREA YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.

SO WE HAD A MONEYGRAM AND THEN TO THE SOUTH OF IT IS THE THE TREES AND THEN THE OLD AIRPORT RUNWAY.

THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE PLANS FOR ADDITIONAL ATHLETIC FIELDS.

SO THE FIELDS WILL BE WHERE THE TREES ARE NOW.

NO NOT THE ENTIRE AREA. NO. RIGHT. BUT THIS. OKAY.

LET ME JUST, IF I MAY, THESE TREES RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS WHERE THE FIELDS WILL BE. IS THAT CORRECT? NOT WHERE MONEYGRAM IS TODAY. ALREADY CLEARED.

RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. RIGHT ACROSS. YEAH. NEXT TO MONEYGRAM ADJACENT TO IT OKAY.

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NOW, IS THERE MONEY FOR THAT RIGHT NOW? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY. AND THEN I'M GOING TO CALL DOCTOR UDREA UP FOR ONE SECOND.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR STICKING AROUND. DOCTOR UDREA, COULD YOU SHARE IN FORWARD DALLAS.

HOW MANY ACRES OF OUR CITY'S ACRES? WHAT PERCENTAGE IS DEDICATED TO HEAVY INDUSTRY AND FORWARD DALLAS RIGHT NOW, OR A GENERAL NUMBER? YES. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

THERE'S A PIE CHART IN FOR DALLAS, PAGE 55. SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS PUBLIC INFORMATION IS LESS THAN 2%.

SAY IT AGAIN. LESS THAN LESS THAN 2%. LESS THAN 2%.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU, MY COLLEAGUES, IS THAT I WAS LIKE, CLEAR THAT LIKE, I'M SORRY, I DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT THIS. BUT THEN I REALIZED THAT IF WE DON'T SUPPORT THIS.

AND WE DO. AND WE DO SUPPORT THE PARKS PLAN. THEN ALL THE EXISTING BATCH PLANTS AND ALL THAT ARE THERE ARE ALL THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO BE OR AT LEAST MANY OR MOST OF THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO BE GONE.

AND SO IN ORDER TO BUILD OUT THIS WHOLE AREA AS A, AS A SPORTS FACILITY.

AND SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. I MEAN, I'M IN A Y'ALL ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS I'M AN AVID ENVIRONMENTALIST.

I'M A CHAMPION OF THE C CAP. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ABOUT RACE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS. I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIMING, BECAUSE THIS REQUEST CAME IN AT A TIME THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL AWAKENING TRULY IN DALLAS IS BEGINNING TO TAKE HOLD AND TAKE POWER.

THAT SAID, I DO BELIEVE THAT WITH 2% WE HAVE TO HAVE PLACES.

WE VOTED ON THESE PLACES TO BE THE PLACES WHERE THERE'S HEAVY INDUSTRY.

IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SAY THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT A BATCH PLANT.

BUT THAT SAID, I THINK IT'S A LOT EASIER TO FIND GOOD LOCATIONS FOR FIELDS THAN IT IS FOR HEAVY INDUSTRY.

NONE OF US ARE GOING TO SUPPORT A BATCH PLANT IN OUR IN OUR DISTRICT, UNLESS IT'S AN AREA THAT'S BEEN DESIGNATED FOR THAT AND THAT WE ALL AGREED.

ON THE OTHER HAND, ANY OF US WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE FIELDS AND ATHLETIC FACILITIES, SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT EASIER TO SOLVE THE CHALLENGE OF WHERE ANY ADDITIONAL FIELDS? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EXISTING MONEY GRAM FIELD.

IN FACT, THEY ARE WELL BUFFERED BY THESE TREES THAT IF WE SAY TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, GO FIND ANOTHER PLACE AND LEAVE THESE TREES ALONE, IT'S IRONIC, I THINK, THAT WE'RE SAYING TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, DON'T CUT DOWN TREES AND THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO BE PUTTING IN TREES.

I WAS VERY CONFUSED ABOUT THAT UNTIL I SAW THE PICTURE, AND I SAW THAT THE DEVASTATION OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE TREES IF WE ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE PARKS PLAN FOR MORE FIELDS IN THIS AREA. SO THOUGH, OF COURSE I WANT ALL BATCH PLANTS IN THE WORLD TO GO AWAY, I WANT ALL HEAVY INDUSTRY IN THE WORLD TO GO AWAY, BUT THAT'S NOT THE REALITY THAT WE LIVE IN.

AND SO I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FIND A PLACE FOR THEM TO OPERATE IN A WAY THAT WAS DESIGNATED FOR THAT, VOTED FOR THAT. AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO PUT WHATEVER EFFORT I CAN INTO ASSISTING THE EITHER MOVING, BUT CERTAINLY FINDING NEW LOCATIONS FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE CONCEPT OF MULTIPLE FIELDS IN ONE LOCATION, AS OPPOSED TO EACH PARK HAVING THEIR OWN SOCCER FIELD.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM Z EIGHT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHN, YOU CAN STAY HERE FOR A SECOND.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN TO BRING UP. THERE IS A SOME TREES CLOSE TO THE SOCCER FIELD THERE, AND THAT IS OWNED BY THE PARK DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY.

IS THAT PART OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT WHERE THE TREES ARE LOCATED AT? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S SOUTH OF THE ATHLETIC FIELDS.

YES. THAT THAT AREA WITH THE TREES AND THE FLAT AREA AND THE OLD RUNWAY.

YES. THAT'S PLANNED FOR. THAT'S BELONG TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

IN THE FUTURE IS A PART OF THE PARK HAD ANYTHING DESIGNED TO REMOVE THOSE TREES AND YOUR MASTER PLAN? NO, I DON'T HAVE A DESIGN. AND ONCE WE HAVE A DESIGN THAT WOULD DETERMINE HOW MANY TREES NEED TO BE REMOVED TO DEVELOP THE AREA, I GUESS MY QUESTION WAS, HAVE THE PARK IN THE FUTURE THINKING ABOUT REMOVING THOSE TREES TO EXPAND THE PARK? HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT REMOVING THOSE TREES TO EXPAND THE PARK?

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DO YOU HAVE A DESIGN? OKAY. OKAY. NOW, I KNOW IN 2002, WE DID A BATCH PLAN.

YOU KNOW, GAVE THEM 35 YEARS. THERE CAN CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM STAFF TO TALK ABOUT FORWARD DALLAS 2.0, WHICH WAS WHO WAS HERE IN 2024? IN 2024, WE BROUGHT AROUND FORWARD OUT OF 2.0.

AND THAT WAS OUR PLAN. AND THAT PLAN THAT WE I HEARD LAST TIME WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THERE ARE PROBABLY THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WHERE WE CAN LOCATE BATCH PLANTS. AND WHAT WAS THE THREE LOCATIONS? THANK YOU FOR THE REFRESHER. IS THIS AREA AROUND LUNA ROAD? THEN MCCOMMAS BLUFF LANDFILL, WHICH IS SOUTH DALLAS AND THEN SOUTHERN DALLAS, AND THEN NORTHEAST OF 635 AND PLANO ROAD IN DISTRICT TEN.

THREE VERY SMALL AREAS THAT TOGETHER COMPRISE LESS THAN 2% OF THE CITY'S AREA.

SO WHY DID FORWARD OUT OF 2.0 RECOGNIZE THOSE THREE LOCATIONS? THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION. THROUGH FORWARD DALLAS ABOUT WHAT AREAS TO FOR THESE TYPES OF USES.

AND LIKE ANDREA SAID, THEY BECAME VERY CONSTRAINED INTO THESE THREE AREAS BECAUSE THEY WERE GENERALLY LOOKED AT AS ALREADY EXISTING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT HAD NOT DEMONSTRATED ANY TRANSITION IN MANY, MANY YEARS, THAT THEY WERE WELL ESTABLISHED, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS, AND WE WEIGHED WHETHER OR NOT THERE HAD BEEN SOME TRANSITIONING, GOING AND ALSO LOOKING AT WHERE THE BOUNDARY OF THOSE AREAS WOULD BE WITH WHERE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE WANTED TO POINT TOWARD TRANSITIONING WOULD BE.

AND THAT'S WHY THE LANDFILL WAS ONE OF THE SITE.

AND THAT WOULD ALSO THE THE SITE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WAS ANOTHER.

CORRECT. OKAY. SO SO THEREFORE FAR WITH DALLAS, WE WERE BEEN WORKING ON FOR DALLAS FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

AND SO THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID NOT OUT OF THE BLUE THAT SAID, HEY COMMUNITY.

SO HOW MANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HAD ON FORWARD DALLAS WE HAD HUNDREDS OF MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE THREE YEARS IN PERSON, VIRTUALLY THROUGH THE WEB, ALL OF THE THINGS AND THEN FOLLOWED THAT WITH ALL THESE HUNDREDS OF MEETINGS YOU HAVE THERE, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE COME UP IN THOSE MEETINGS.

IT DID COME UP. AND I WILL SAY THAT ORIGINALLY SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS INDUSTRIAL HUB, IT WAS LARGER. THOSE AREAS WERE LARGER AREAS THAT SHOWED MORE OF A PERCENTAGE AND THERE WAS A GREATER NUMBER OF THEM.

SO THROUGH THAT ENGAGEMENT, THROUGH DISCUSSIONS, WE WHITTLED DOWN THE AREAS TO WHAT YOU SEE TODAY IN FORWARD DALLAS.

OKAY. SO THEREFORE WE HAVE FORWARDED OUT A 2.0.

ARE WE PLANNING TO REVISIT FORWARD DALLAS IN THE FUTURE? YEAH. THEIR PLANS EVOLVE. PLANS ARE MOVING. IT CAN BE REVISITED IN THE FUTURE.

AND ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND TALKING ABOUT FORWARD DALLAS IS THERE ANY OTHER SITES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT COULD BE A PLACE FOR MOVING BATCH PLANTS? THAT COULD BE WHAT COULD BE A MOVE LOCATION, A LOCATION FOR BATCH PLANTS.

IT WOULD GENERALLY BE THOSE THREE AREAS. OKAY.

SO THEREFORE. SO THESE ARE THE THREE AREAS THAT THE CITY IN FORT WORTH, DALLAS SAID THESE ARE THE THE MAJOR AREAS THAT WE CAN PUT A BATCH PLANT.

SO THEREFORE IF WE LOOK IN THE FUTURE THE CRYSTAL BALL, THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS BECAUSE WE EXPLORE ALL OTHER PLACES.

THAT'S CORRECT. FOR FROM A FUTURE STANDPOINT, THOSE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE WOULD IDEALLY LIKE TO ENVISION THEM.

THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT MAY ALREADY HAVE THAT ZONING, BUT THESE ARE AREAS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

IF A CASE COMES BEFORE YOU, THESE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE WOULD IDEALLY LIKE TO SEE THEM GO.

HAVING A BATCH PLANT, DO WE HAVE IN THAT AREA CURRENT TODAY? OH IT'S HARD TO SAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM THAT WERE PERMITTED BY.

RIGHT. I DO HAVE A LIST OF SPECIFIC USE PERMITS.

EXPERIMENTS. SO THE ONES THAT ARE BY SPECIFIC USE PERMIT I WOULD SAY, I DON'T KNOW, LESS THAN 15.

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RIGHT. THIS PARTICULAR BATCH PLANT, IS THERE ANOTHER BATCH PLANT CLOSER TO THAT SOCCER FIELD IS SO HIGH.

CLOSE IS IT? THERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE CLOSER.

THERE IS ONE THAT'S ON THE NORTH WEST CORNER OF THE SOCCER FIELD, JUST ADJACENT.

AND THERE IS NO BUFFER BETWEEN THE SOCCER FIELD AND THAT ONE. AND I THINK THAT THE ONE THAT'S OPERATING BY RIGHT THERE ARE TWO OTHERS SOUTH OF THIS ONE THAT HAVE PERMANENT. LET'S SEE. THESE THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSER, I WOULD SAY.

AND YOU DID SAY THERE ARE SOME CLOSER THEY DO NOT HAVE IN THE BUFFER.

YES. THERE IS ONE ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER THAT'S JUST ADJACENT TO THE FIELDS.

AND I COULDN'T SEE ANY TREES BUILT AROUND IT ON ANY PROPERTY ON THE CONCRETE BATCH PLANT OR ON THE SOCCER FIELD SIDE.

YOU SAY YOU COULD NOT SEE IN THE TREES. ARE THERE ANY TREES THERE? I COULDN'T SEE ANY THERE. NO TREES THERE. SO THERE IS NOT A BUFFER.

IS THAT CORRECT? ON AN EXISTING OPERATING ONE THAT'S BY RIGHT.

AND AND DO YOU KNOW CAN YOU SAID HOW MANY FEET THE MOUTHS ARE CLOSE.

OH THAT ONE. THAT'S RIGHT ADJACENT. RIGHT ADJACENT.

WE SAID RIGHT ADJACENT. HOW FAR IS THAT? THEY'RE CLOSE.

LIKE THEY SHARE A PROPERTY LINE. THEY SHARE A PROPERTY LINE? YES.

AND SO THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR. FOR THE LAST. WHAT? THEY GOT A 35 YEAR. THAT ONE. LET ME LOOK. WE WE PULLED THE CEO THIS MORNING.

WE WERE INTERESTING. INTERESTED TO SEE. JUST A SECOND THERE.

A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS. OH. I DON'T KNOW.

LET ME LET ME GO BACK AND LOOK BECAUSE I SEE THEY AMENDED IT A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.

SO LET ME GO BACK TO SEE WHEN THEY STARTED OPERATION.

SO THEY DID AMEND IT. SO WHEN THEY DID AMEND IT, THEY DID COME BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

THERE WAS ADMINISTRATION. THAT'S A USE THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT BY RIGHT.

SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL. THEY CAN AMEND. DO THEY HAVE AIR MONITORS THERE? I GUESS THERE MAY BE SOMEWHERE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL.

I WOULD DEFER THIS TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND SOLUTIONS.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE DID TALK INTERNALLY ABOUT AIR MONITORS, AND WE ALL AGREED THAT IT IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A GOOD MEASURE TO ADD IN PLACE FOR SUCH AN SUP, BUT I WOULD LET PAUL EXPLAIN BETTER.

YEAH. WE HAVE A NON-REGULATORY AIR MONITOR. OR AIR SENSOR AT MONEYGRAM PARK.

DO WE HAVE AIR MONITOR AT THE LANDFILL? WE HAVE ONE NEAR THE LANDFILL ACROSS US. TRYING TO THINK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LANDFILL.

WE HAVE ONE NEAR THERE. SO WE DO HAVE SOME THERE.

SO IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE HAVE BATCH PLANS? THERE DO NOT HAVE A BUFFER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL WITH NO AIR MONITOR THERE.

IS THERE A REASON WHY WE DO NOT HAVE THOSE THERE? ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE LANDFILL? I'M REFERRING TO THIS SHOP TODAY.

THERE ARE BATCH PLANS OUT THERE NOW, AND THERE IS NO AIR MONITORS THERE.

IS THAT CORRECT? AT THE BATCH PLANT ITSELF? NO, NO, NO.

THE ONE AROUND THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD 3 OR 4 BASS PLAYERS AROUND THE ONE THAT WE ARE SPEAKING OF.

IS THERE A MONITOR AROUND THE OTHER BASS PLANTS THERE? IS THERE ANY MONITOR AROUND THE OTHER BASS PLANTS? WE DO HAVE AN AIR MONITOR AT THE GOLF COURSE.

I DIDN'T SAY THE GOLF COURSE. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BASS. IT'S NEAR THOSE BASS PLANTS. BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE AN AIR MONITOR AT THE BASS PLANT. WHY NOT? IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE AN AIR MONITOR AT THE BASS PLANT.

AND ARE YOU. WOULD YOU WANT ONE ON THE BASS ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OF THE BASS PLANT? I'M NOT ASKING THAT. YOU KNOW, I HEAR THAT ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE COMMITTEE UP. I WAS A VICE CHAIR ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL, AND I DO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

YOU KNOW, THE SHINGLE MOUNTAIN LANE PLATE AND SO ON, KIND OF UP TO DATE ENVIRONMENTAL.

SO THERE IS ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES. SO WHY WE DO NOT HAVE MONITORS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

IF SO, WHY WE SHOULD NOT PUT MONITOR THERE. RIGHT.

WE DO HAVE MONITORS IN THE AREA. WE HAVE A MONITOR IN MONEYGRAM PARK AT THAT POINT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE ONE IN THE GOLF COURSE AT THE TENNIS COURT AREA.

EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. YOU'RE OFF THE TOPIC. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PARK. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BACKSTRETCH THAT IS NOW AROUND.

OKAY. WHY? WE DO NOT HAVE MONITOR AROUND THOSE BACK SPRINGS.

IF WE GOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE, WHY WE DO NOT HAVE THAT THERE.

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THAT'S MY ANSWER. I GUESS CITY MANAGER. CAN I.

CAN I JUST JUMP IN JUST A SECOND? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND BATCH PLANT.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH ISSUES, STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND WE GOT THIS PARTICULAR AREA THAT WE GOT THESE BATCH PLANTS HERE.

AND WE GOT BATCH PLANTS DO NOT HAVE BUFFERS. EVERYTHING.

IT'S AT A BIG ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE THERE. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE DID NOT THINK ABOUT THE HEALTH AND PUT MONITOR EVERYWHERE AROUND.

SO WE HAD SOME SCIENTIFIC FACTS THAT WE DO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.

I THINK THE QUESTION AND THE ANSWER THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE DIRECTOR, MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS, IS THAT THERE ARE MONITORS IN THAT AREA. IF YOU ARE SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING OF MONITORS THAT ARE JUST FOR THE BATCH.

THE BATCH PLANT. THAT'S WHAT HE'S ADDRESSING.

THE ANSWER IS NO. AND THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT, WHICH IS HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHICH BATCH PLAN.

AND SO HE'S ANSWERING THE QUESTION BASED ON THE AREA THE AREA HAS MONITORING AS WE DO AIR MONITORING.

OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. SO THERE ARE MONITORS IN THE AREA.

BUT THEY'RE NOT JUST DEDICATED JUST FOR THE BATCH PLANTS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE'S HE'S UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION, BUT HE'S ANSWERING IT BASED ON THE FACTS, WHICH ARE THE MONITORING IS ALREADY IN THE AREA.

BUT IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE BATCH PLANTS. OKAY.

SO. IN AND LET ME TURN THAT. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DO HAVE MONITORED AT THE BACK SPRINGS.

SAME THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHINGLE MOUNTAIN, ALAIN PLATING.

WE PUT MONITOR THERE TO MAKE SURE THE ENVIRONMENT.

I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON RECORD. I WILL HAVE AROUND THREE.

THANK YOU. SECOND. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z8.

THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER, THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION I DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT IT'S BROUGHT UP A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.

AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN PROVIDE FOR US A REPORT OF WHEN.

WELL, OF ALL THE BATCH PLANS IN THE AREA FIRST AND THE ONES THAT HAVE AN SUP WHEN THOSE SUPS EXPIRE.

BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT GIVEN THE VERY FREQUENT CONVERSATION ABOUT CAP AND VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, WE SHOULD AT LEAST KNOW WHERE WE HAVE BATCH PLANTS AND WHEN THEY'RE COMING UP FOR A RENEWAL.

THERE IS A COMMENT MADE THAT WE VOTED FOR THESE BATCH PLANS.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THESE BATCH PLANS HAVE COME WHILE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST REQUEST I HAVE. THE SECOND THING IS TO CONFIRM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION OPPOSE THIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK THE CHAIR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION SPOKE.

SO IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK SO. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONFIRM SHE'S UNWILLING TO CONFIRM.

OR DENY? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. WE DID OPPOSE IT AND PASSED A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY PROHIBIT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FROM ALL PARK SPACES ACROSS THE CITY.

THANK YOU. AND THE PLAN COMMISSION ALSO VOTED AGAINST THIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. CITY PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL.

OKAY. SO TWO WEEKS AGO, WE HAD A BUNCH OF MEDICAL DOCTORS COME TO SPEAK TO US.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, IN SIX YEARS, THAT RARELY HAPPENS.

THEIR TIME IS SO VALUABLE. AND OF COURSE, WE MADE THEM WAIT A VERY LONG TIME.

BUT WE WERE LUCKY TO HEAR THE TESTIMONY OF OF VARIOUS MEDICAL DOCTORS.

WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE PARK BOARD MEMBERS COME SPEAK, I BELIEVE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALL THE PARK BOARD MEMBERS ARE OPPOSED TO THIS. EXCEPT ONE.

I KNOW MY PARK BOARD MEMBER IS. WE'VE HAD TWO PARK BOARD MEMBERS SPEAK HERE TODAY.

MY ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONER IS DOCTOR BARRY LACHMAN.

I HAD TO WORK REALLY HARD TO GET HIM. HE'S AN EXTREMELY NOTED, DISTINGUISHED PEDIATRICIAN PUBLIC HEALTH EXPERT, AND ADVOCATE FOR UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS. HE SERVED ON THE FACULTY OF JOHN HOPKINS, UT SOUTHWESTERN, AND HE WAS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT PARKLAND. THIS IS HIS LIFE'S WORK, AND HE WAS SPECIFICALLY ASKED TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION FOR THIS MOMENT WHEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT AIR QUALITY, BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW OFTEN Y'ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT EQUITY AND EVERYTHING ELSE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US BREATHES THE AIR AND THAT PARTICULATE MATTER IS COMING INTO ALL OF OUR LUNGS.

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OUR KIDS HAVE AN OUT WEIGHTED PROPORTION OF ASTHMA.

TWO OF MY THREE CHILDREN HAD ASTHMA. THE DECISION TO CONTINUE TO HARM OUR AIR QUALITY CAN'T BE BASED ON FRIENDSHIP. IT CAN'T BE ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, RACE OR POLITICAL INFLUENCE.

WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS, AND THE FACT IS THAT THE CHILDREN ARE PLAYING AT MONEYGRAM, ADULTS ARE HANGING OUT AT MONEYGRAM. WE'VE INVESTED MILLIONS IN MONEYGRAM AND THE VOTERS INVESTED THAT MONEY.

THAT WAS A BOND ELECTION. WE'RE NOT MOVING MONEYGRAM.

THAT'S LIKE NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. WE WILL NEVER HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THIS CITY TO DO THAT.

YOU ALREADY FEEL THE LOOMING FINANCIAL CRISIS COMING.

IT IS FOR REAL COMING. WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE MONEYGRAM.

THE ONLY QUESTION IS IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WILL ADD PARTICULATE MATTER THAT WILL HARM PEOPLE, AND IF YOU'RE WILLING TO TAKE A VOTE TO DO THAT, AND I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU'RE NOT.

THE THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED. AND JOHN, THERE YOU ARE.

THERE'S A WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE TREES, BUT THEN YOU LATER SAID YOU HAVE NO PLAN TO REMOVE TREES TO ADD SOCCER FIELDS.

THAT IS CORRECT. WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED A DESIGN.

OKAY. SO ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE PEOPLE SPEAKING UP FOR TREES THAT ARE NOT EVEN GOING TO BE REMOVED.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THIS IS THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD EVEN BE POLITICAL. THIS SHOULDN'T EVEN BE SUCH A HARD VOTE.

THIS SHOULD BE A PRETTY EASY VOTE. AND IT'S ONLY HARD BECAUSE WE KNOW AND LIKE THE APPLICANT AND RESPECT THE APPLICANT, AND I DO. BUT THIS IS NOT A HARD VOTE. THIS IS AN EASY VOTE.

IT SHOULD NOT BE THERE. NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHO HE TALKED TO TO SAY THAT IT COULD BE THERE AND THAT IT WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED, BUT THAT'S 100% WRONG. AND I INTEND TO VOTE NO AND I REQUEST A RECORD VOTE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z8.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

I KEEP HEARING THIS SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER ON BOTH SIDES OF THE OF THE FENCE.

THIS SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER. AND I'M GOING TO SAY IT, THIS IS A NO BRAINER.

AND IT'S A NO BRAINER BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN A VOTE.

AND ANDREA, CAN YOU COME BACK UP HERE? I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY.

WE SAID THAT WE IDENTIFIED THREE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS IN THE CITY.

AND IS THIS ONE OF THOSE THREE AREAS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WE DID IDENTIFY THREE.

YES, THIS IS ONE OF THEM. THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

AND THEN YOU SAID THERE IS LESS THAN 15 CEMENT PLANTS THAT ARE ALREADY ALREADY HERE.

SO, SO TO ME THIS IS A NO BRAINER. AND I GET IT.

I UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECES AND ALL OF THIS KIND OF THING, BUT THESE BATCH PLANTS ARE ALREADY HERE.

AND AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AND I DEBATED ON WHETHER OR NOT I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS, I'VE HEARD IT. IT'S NOT ABOUT RACE. IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING A SMALL BUSINESS.

BUT WHEN YOU HAPPEN TO BE A BLACK MAN THAT RUNS A SMALL BUSINESS, IT'S ALL OF THESE THINGS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU HAVE LESS THAN 15 PLANTS, CITY SAYS. THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'VE DEEMED YOU CAN PUT YOUR PLANT.

AND NOW WE'RE SITTING HERE HAVING THIS BIG, LONG DEBATE ON WHY IT'S HARD NOT TO TAKE THAT PERSONAL.

IT'S HARD NOT TO TAKE THAT, YOU KNOW AS SOMEBODY TRYING TO STOP AS THE CITY TRYING TO STOP SMALL BUSINESSES, AS THE CITY'S NOT BEING EQUITABLE. IT'S HARD TO NOT TAKE IT THAT WAY.

AND PARTICULARLY IF YOU'VE BEEN A BLACK MAN OR MINORITY PERSON TRYING TO DO BUSINESS IN THIS CITY.

AND WE HAVE MANY, MANY BUREAUCRATIC UPS AND DOWNS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.

AND THIS IS ONE WHERE WE'RE ESSENTIALLY FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE.

SO FOR US TO BE HAVING THIS DEBATE IS IS TERRIBLY FRUSTRATING.

AND I GET IT. BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE OF SOCCER.

I TOLD YOU ALL I'VE POSTED ABOUT THIS. MY SON, WE HAD 6 OR 7 GAMES IN TWO WEEKS OUT THERE IN THAT SPOT, AND I SAT THERE AND LOOKED AT THAT BATCH PLANT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TREES. AND I'LL SAY THIS, AND I'M GONNA SLOW DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I DO WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF MAYOR PRO TEM IS OVER THERE, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR TO YOUR TO YOUR MOTION.

AND THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE THE EXCEPTIONS THREE YEAR SNP AND YOU GOT ALL OF THOSE WHO NEVER HAVE TO COME BACK,

[06:20:02]

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION REALLY TO TO AMEND TO AMEND YOUR YOUR AMENDMENT TO REALLY REMOVE THE THREE YEAR GET THAT BACK TO A FIVE YEAR. THE TREE BUFFER I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A TREE BUFFER THERE.

AND IF THERE'S NOT ANY PLANS TO REMOVE A TREE, THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POINT OF ADDING ADDITIONAL TREES TO THIS IS.

AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS. I'M JUST I'M REALLY IF I CAN HAVE DIALOG ABOUT IT.

BUT THEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS IF YOU WANT TO REDUCE YOUR THOUGHTS TO A MOTION, WE CAN GO RIGHT ON TO THE DEBATE.

ON YOUR MOTION, YOU'LL HAVE A FIVE MINUTE. OKAY.

WHAT I WAS DOING, I THOUGHT SO. MR.. WELL, YOU'RE KIND OF DOING THE YOU'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSION ON THE ON THE ON THE AMENDMENT, BUT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY I WASN'T SURE IF HE NEEDED TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.

SO I WAS JUST GOING, NO, WE DON'T REALLY WE DON'T REALLY DO FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS THAT WAY.

WE KIND OF ACTUALLY MAKE YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING A SECOND FOR YOUR AMENDMENT.

ALL RIGHT. COOL. WELL, THEN SO DO YOU. YOU'RE YOU'RE IT'S IN ORDER, THOUGH.

SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO AMEND IT HOWEVER YOU WANT, AND THEN WE'LL BE ON YOUR AMENDMENT. FAIR ENOUGH.

ALL RIGHT. SO GO AHEAD. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF WITH AMENDMENT THAT THE SUP IS APPROVED FOR FIVE YEAR PERIOD INSTEAD OF THREE. REMOVE THE TREE BUFFER AND THEN AGAIN, THE REST OF IT REALLY JUST A FIVE YEAR SGP. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD THE MOTION CORRECTLY BEFORE I ASKED FOR A SECOND.

SO NO, I WANT TO REMOVE ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS UNDER HERE AND REALLY JUST MAKE IT A MOTION TO AMEND THE CURRENT MOTION FOR AN CIP FOR FIVE YEARS WITH NO AUTOMATIC. I MEAN, YEAH, WITH NO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.

ARE YOU STRIKING EVERY BULLET? THAT IS NOT THE FIRST BULLET I AM.

I DON'T SEE THE NEED. YES. NO NO NO YES I AM YES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. YES. SO YOUR MOTION WOULD SAY I MOVED TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FOR THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO THE SCP CONDITIONS. THE SCP IS APPROVED FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH NO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF IT. CORRECT.

THAT'S YOUR MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? IT WAS MOVED AND IT WAS SECONDED.

DID YOU SECOND IT? MR. ARNOLD, DID YOU ARE YOU SAYING.

OKAY THEN WE'RE ON WE'RE ON THAT AMENDMENT NOW.

OKAY. AND AGAIN, SO FOR ME, COLLEAGUES, I JUST WANT US TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO DO. BUT AGAIN YOU'VE HAD ALL OF THESE FIVE MINUTES. I'M SORRY. LET THE SECRETARY KNOW YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT.

OKAY. I JUST WANT THIS TO BE CONSISTENT. PERIOD.

IF WE SAY IT'S NOT ABOUT RACE, WE SAY IT'S NOT ABOUT A SMALL BUSINESS. WE SAY IT'S NOT ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

THEN LET THIS MAN COME IN THERE AND OPERATE IN THE SAME SPACE THAT WE'VE DEEMED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, IN THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES AND CONDITIONS THAT THE REST OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE JUST LIKE THIS ONE ARE OPERATING.

THAT IS MY JUSTIFICATION. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION, WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT? I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO JUMP IN ON THIS AMENDMENT.

ALL RIGHT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I UNFORTUNATELY, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

I DO TOTALLY APPRECIATE AND RESPECT THE SENTIMENT.

HOWEVER, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST GOING BACK TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WHICH IS WHERE WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS CONTENTION TWO WEEKS AGO.

AND WE KNEW THAT THERE WERE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE IN TALKING WITH STAFF AND THEN TALKING WITH COLLEAGUES WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY STAFF WE SEEM TO HAVE GARNERED MORE BUY IN FROM THE BODY TO BE ACCEPTED TO THAT.

SO WITHOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO VET, ESSENTIALLY PULLING THE RUG OUT AND GOING BACK TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WE HAD CLEAR OPPOSITION FROM TWO WEEKS AGO.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE IN GOING THAT ROUTE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, AGAIN, I DO WANT TO STRESS.

I AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENTS. I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY GO TO THIS GRANULAR OF A SOLUTION AND MAKE SOMEONE JUMP THROUGH HOOPS, ESSENTIALLY.

BUT THE REALITY IS, IS WHAT I THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS WANTING TO SEE THIS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, THIS BUSINESS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IN A PLACE THAT WE HAVE PUT IT.

AND I AM I'M TOO WEARY WITH THE HIGH THRESHOLD THAT WITHOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY VET GOING BACK TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT SUPPORT. SO FOR THAT REASON, I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S WHY I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MISS

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THANK YOU. DOCTOR, I DO HAVE A QUESTION? AND SO GIVEN WHAT WE HAVE IN THE NEW AMENDMENT ON COULD WE ACTUALLY BRING ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES UP TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE AS FAR AS TREE BUFFERS FENCING? I KNOW THE THING IS, IS SOMETHING. BUT IN OTHER WORDS, INSTEAD OF BRINGING EVERYTHING DOWN, MAKE EVERYBODY ELSE COME UP AND TRY TO BUFFER THINGS.

I WOULD SAY THAT AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, BECAUSE I DO LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF.

THAT WE HAVE A TEMPLATE, WE APPLY THE PRINCIPLE OF CONSISTENCY.

SO FOR ALL FOR BATCH PLANS WE KIND OF LIKE HAVE A TEMPLATE.

I'D LOVE EVERY TIME WE ADD NEW THINGS BECAUSE WE'RE STRIVING TO BE BETTER.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT YES, WE WOULD USE THIS AS A GOOD TEMPLATE TO SEE IF IT APPLIES WELL TO OTHER SUPS AS WELL.

SO LIKE WE HAVE ONE THAT'S COMING IN TWO WEEKS, WE COULD SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

AND AS THEY COME UP FOR RENEWAL WE CAN SAY THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS.

YES. BECAUSE IT'S YES. THAT'S HOW WE STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

LIKE IN, I THINK VERY OLD SUPPORT FOR CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE DUST MEASURING OR DUST CONTROL TYPE OF CONDITIONS.

WE STARTED TO ADD THEM BECAUSE THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE ACP, RIGHT? TO KEEP ON ADDING SOME OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS TO SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY, SO I THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ON THIS, BECAUSE I DO WANT TO SPEAK MY FIVE ROUNDS WHEN WE GET BACK TO THE ORIGINAL.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON.

CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. I AM IN CONCURRENCE WITH CHAIR BLACKMON.

I DON'T WANT US TO ALL MOVE BACKWARDS. I WANT EVERYBODY TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE NEED MORE TREES. WE NEED THE SCREENING. WE NEED TO DO PUT MORE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE RATHER THAN GO BACKWARDS WITH WITH VERY FEW PROTECTIONS.

SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT, BUT I CAN SUPPORT I CAN SUPPORT MOVING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.

THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT. I'M SORRY, I DO NOT. IS THAT UNINTENTIONAL? OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE CHAIRMAN? GRACEY YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT? AM I ABLE TO.

CAN I AMEND MY AMENDMENT? YOU COULD IF SOMEONE WOULD SECOND IT, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM.

THEN I'D LIKE TO AMEND IT AND I'LL GO BACK TO FIVE YEARS.

MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO. I DON'T BELIEVE THE MICROPHONE IS ON.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OR TO AMEND MY AMENDMENT TO GO BACK TO OR TO GO TO A SUP APPROVED FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD WITH NO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, AND THEN LEAVE THE REST OF THOSE THERE.

SO I'M JUST ESSENTIALLY CHANGING THE FIVE YEAR TO NO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY, FROM THREE YEARS TO FIVE YEARS.

SO NOW THE REST OF THOSE ORIGINAL BULLET POINTS THERE.

THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT WOULD THEN ONLY CHANGE 3 TO 5 YEAR FROM THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? YEAH, I ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY FOR MINE.

OBJECTION ON THE MOTION. THEN. THEN WE'LL ADOPT THAT AS THE.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A VOTE. OKAY. SO THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT THEN, SINCE THERE IS OBJECTION, WILL HAVE TO BE VOTED ON TO AMEND IT THAT WAY.

SO WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON YOUR AMENDMENT IF I HEARD A SECOND.

SO NOW WE'RE ON YOUR AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY DEBATE ON IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, BUT WE DO NEED TO VOTE ON IT. AND YOU WANT A RECORD VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. OKAY. SO EVERYONE JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT CHANGES 3 TO 5.

IF THIS PASSES, THEN THAT BECOMES THE AMENDMENT THAT MR. GRACEY LAID OUT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. IS THIS A STRAIGHT EIGHT VOTE AND DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE A THRESHOLD OF 12? NO. THIS YEAH. THAT WASN'T HAPPENING UNTIL WE GOT BACK TO Z8.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. RECORD VOTE'S BEEN REQUESTED AND THE RECORD VOTES GRANTED.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. EVERYONE, TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE WE CAN'T INTERRUPT THE VOTING.

CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, MAYOR PRO TEM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL HEAR THIS.

I KNOW Y'ALL ARE TALKING. WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON MR. GRACIE'S AMENDMENT TO HIS OWN AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD CHANGE HIS AMENDMENT BACK TO CHAIRMAN BAZALDUA.

WELL, MAYOR PRO TEM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM ORIGINAL MOTION, BUT CHANGING 3 TO 5.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT. LET'S CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

GRACEY. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RESENDEZ. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

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SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. MENDELSOHN. NO. COUNCILMEMBER.

WILLIS. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. RIDLEY. NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.

YES. MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. YES. MAYOR. JOHNSON.

NO. WITH NINE VOTING IN FAVOR, SIX OPPOSE. THE AMENDMENT PASSES MR. AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT IS ADOPTED.

SO NOW YOUR AMENDMENT IS AS YOU JUST DESCRIBED IT.

SO WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT, AND I HAVE THE CUE FOR WHERE WE WERE, BUT WE'RE STILL NOT ON THE ORIGINAL.

DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL? YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON IT? WHAT? YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THE AMENDMENT AS IT IS NOW? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I DO HAVE SOME A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT I'M WONDERING MEAN, BECAUSE I THINK TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS REGARDING BATCH PLANTS, AND NOT THAT I KNOW ANY OF THIS, BUT COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PARTICULATE IS IS COMING FROM YOUR BATCH PLANT AND WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO TO MITIGATE IT? AND GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT? YES. SO BATCH PLANTS ARE MADE TO ONLY HAVE 99% EFFICIENCY, RIGHT? CAN'T CALL IT 100%. BUT WHAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO IS SPENDING AN EXTRA $30,000 FOR A NEW DUST COLLECTION SYSTEM TO BUFFER THAT COLLECTION SYSTEM.

RIGHT? SO YOU'LL GET TO ALMOST ZERO, 0.1% OF ANY KIND OF PARTICULATE MATTER.

EXCUSE ME. PARTICULATE MATTER COMING OUT. SO, I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY AND THE TECHNOLOGY IS ALWAYS CHANGING. SO WE'RE INVESTING IN THAT TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE UP TO STANDARDS FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY.

OKAY. SO YOU ARE INVESTING IN A SYSTEM THAT YOU CAN ALMOST GET TO AS GOOD AS YOU CAN GET IT.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND THEN. AND WE HEARD THAT THE TREES DO HELP.

SO, IS PARK STILL IN THE BUILDING? OKAY. SO WE'VE SEEN THE TREES AND WE'VE SEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF.

THERE'S A BUNCH OF TREES, AND THEN IT GOES, NO TREES AND THEN AROUND IT.

AND YOU'VE SAID RIGHT NOW THERE IS A PLAN. YOU HAVE A PARK PLAN TO TAKE THOSE TREES DOWN.

NO, THERE'S NO PLAN. THERE'S NO PLAN. OKAY, THEN HOW DID WE GET THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION THAT THE TREES WERE GOING AWAY? THERE IS A PLAN. OKAY. THERE IS A PLAN. I MEAN, WELL, LET'S LET'S CLEAR UP BETWEEN PLAN AND DESIGN.

THERE IS A THERE IS PLANS. OKAY, SO THERE IS A PLAN.

I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT A DESIGN. YES. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SOCCER FIELD, YOU OBVIOUSLY CAN'T HAVE TREES IN THE MIDDLE OF A SOCCER FIELD. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IF YOU HAVE PLANS TO DO A SOCCER FIELD, YOU'RE GOING TO CLEAR CUT THOSE TREES.

WELL NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE ONCE WE DO THE DESIGN IT'S GOING TO DETERMINE THE TOPOGRAPHY.

WHAT CAN BE DEVELOPED FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS AND WHAT PART OF THE AREA CANNOT BE DEVELOPED.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT THE TREES IN ORDER TO GET THE ATHLETIC FIELDS.

YES. OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO BUT THERE'S A PLAN TO DO THAT, NOT DESIGN.

THERE'S A PLAN. THERE'S A THOUGHT. THERE'S THERE'S A THERE'S A DIRECTION.

OKAY. AND AND IS IT FROM WHO GAVE YOU THE WHO.

WHERE IS THIS EMBEDDED? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

WHEN WE SAY PLANS, I SAID IT'S WHEN WE BUILT THE ORIGINAL ATHLETIC FIELDS.

THERE WAS ALSO PLANS THAT WHENEVER FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE, THEN THIS COULD BE AN AREA WHERE WE COULD EXPAND THE ATHLETIC COMPLEX. OKAY. AND THIS WAS DONE WHEN? OH GOSH, PROBABLY IN 20, PROBABLY IN 2000 AND BETWEEN 2000 AND 5 AND PROBABLY 2011. OKAY. SO IT WAS DONE IN THE EARLY 2000.

YES. AND HOW MANY BATCH PLANTS WERE ALREADY THERE? I HAVE NO IDEA. DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY BATCH PLANTS WERE ALREADY THERE? SO I WOULD TALK ABOUT THE ONES THAT HAVE SOPS.

ALL THE ONES THAT HAVE SOPS ARE PRETTY OLD TYPE OF BATCH PLANTS, ESPECIALLY THE PERMANENT ONES ARE LIKE FROM THE 70S 80S SO THEY WERE IN PLACE.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE BATCH PLANTS. WE PUT A AND WE HAVE THE, THE I SEE WHERE WE HAVE THE, THE TENNIS COURTS AND THE AND ALL OF THAT.

THAT'S ON THE IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH, EAST WEST.

AND THEN WE PUT MONEYGRAM. AND THEN WE CONTINUED TO DEVELOP FIELDS THERE WITH THE BATCH PLANTS.

AND WE HAVE THREE OF THEM THAT ARE PERMANENT. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT.

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BUT THERE ARE MORE THAT ARE PERMANENT. I WOULD SAY AROUND NINE NINE ARE PERMANENT.

I'M SORRY. ONE, TWO. I KEEP ON LIKE COUNTING IT.

ONE, TWO. OKAY. MORE THAN FIVE. LESS THAN TEN.

YES. OKAY. AND YOU'VE SAID FORWARD DALLAS HAS SAID THIS IS A INDUSTRIAL.

AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS, RIGHT? YES. OKAY.

DO WE REALIZE THAT IF WE KEEP BUILDING SOCCER FIELDS THAT ARE PLANNED, NOT DESIGNED, AND WE'VE CREATED AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, WE'VE BASICALLY DIMINISHED FORWARD DALLAS. IT HAS NO TEETH.

WE'VE PASSED AND WORKED ON A BILL ON A PLAN THAT BASICALLY WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE EITHER FOLLOW FORWARD DALLAS OR WE DON'T.

AND I'M STILL CALLING THIS SCHIZOPHRENIC ZONING.

OKAY, BACK TO ENVIRONMENTAL. WHERE IS CATHERINE? DID SHE LEAVE OR MISS WHITE? I MEAN, MR. WHITE, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION VOTED FOR OR AGAINST.

BECAUSE IF IT'S AGAINST, IF IT'S BATCH PLANTS AGAINST PARK ZONED, I DON'T, I THINK THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT NINE PERMANENT BATCH PLANTS THAT ARE ZONED THAT ARE NEXT TO A PARK, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

YES. SO IN MAY, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION VOTED ON A RECOMMENDATION PROHIBITING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE NEAR PARK SPACES.

OKAY. AND IT SAYS DEVELOPING FURTHER. OR IS IT MEANING EVEN EXISTING DEVELOPING FURTHER.

OKAY. SO THEN HOW ARE WE AS A CITY GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS? BECAUSE WE'VE GOT PARKS THAT ARE THERE AND WE'VE GOT PERMANENT BATCH PLANTS.

MORE THAN FIVE, LESS THAN TEN. HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? I'M JUST RHETORICAL. YOU JUST HAPPENED TO BE THERE.

SORRY. AND AND SO WE'VE SAID WE HAVE THREE AREAS THAT ARE INDUSTRIAL, BUT YET WE'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN TREES THAT ARE IN AN AREA THAT'S HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. BUT YOU'VE SAID THAT THEY ARE A DETERRENT, A PARTICULAR MATTER.

BUT YET WE'RE GOING TO BUILD MORE FIELDS. I ANYWAY, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, WE'VE SAID THIS IS REALLY NOT BLACK AND WHITE. THERE'S A LOT OF GRAY HERE.

I JUST IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING THAT WE'VE GOT MORE OF THIS COMING.

WE HAVE ANOTHER WE HAVE ANOTHER BATCH PLANT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUT MORE SOCCER FIELDS. I'M JUST WONDERING, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP AND DECIDE WHAT THIS IS AND MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION AND NOT KEEP TRYING TO FIT SOMETHING THERE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO A BUSINESS PERSON.

IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE FAMILIES WHO ARE USING IT.

SO WE'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO COHABITATE AND FIGURE IT OUT.

AND YEAH, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE OUT THE FIELDS OR MOVE OUT THE BATCH PLANTS.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE. AND I DON'T KNOW, I BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO LIVE.

THANK YOU. I'M SORRY YOU'RE THERE TO HEAR IT ALL. ALL RIGHT.

TECHNICALLY, LET'S SEE ON THE WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT.

AND TECHNICALLY JAYNIE. SCHULTZ, YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN ON THE AMENDMENT.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES, CORRECT? THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

YES. THANK YOU SIR. HAS THE PARKS HAS THE PARK BOARD APPROVED THE PLAN TO EXPAND THIS AREA? POST FORWARD. DALLAS. I'M NOT FOR SURE. I KNOW RYAN O'CONNOR WAS JUST SHOWING ME THAT THERE WAS A PLAN DONE AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN WE BUILT THE ORIGINAL SOCCER FIELDS. AND IT DID SHOW SOME ATHLETIC FIELDS ON THAT SIDE OF THE AREA YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.

SO, WAIT, SO YOU'RE SAYING, LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

TWO THINGS. ONE IS YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT SHOWS THE SOCCER FIELDS WHERE THE INDUSTRIAL ALREADY WAS.

NO, NOT WHAT INDUSTRIAL IS. NO. ARE YOU ASKING ME? WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE STANDING ON A PARKS PLAN.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHEN YOU MADE THAT PLAN, THERE WAS NO INDUSTRY OVER THERE? NO, NO, NOT AT ALL.

THERE WAS AN INDUSTRY THERE. OKAY, SO YOU KNEW THAT WHEN YOU PUT THOSE PARKS THERE.

I CAN'T SPEAK BECAUSE I WASN'T PART OF THE PLAN. OKAY. THEY KNEW THAT WHEN THEY.

BUT THERE. BUT SINCE THEN, THE PARKS SINCE FOR DALLAS HAS BEEN APPROVED.

THE PARKS BOARD HAS NOT ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE SO CHALLENGING FOR EVERYBODY.

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YOU HAVE NOT YET HAD THAT DISCUSSION AT THE PARKS BOARD TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS NOW THAT FORWARD DALLAS HAS BEEN ADOPTED? IS THAT CORRECT? I WOULD JUST SAY WE I'M NOT IN THE ZONING BUSINESS.

THAT'S NOT MY QUESTION. SO. SO THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO, AS FAR AS HAVE I TAKEN THE ITEM TO THE PARK BOARD SAYING WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE ZONING ISSUES AROUND OUR PARKS. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WHEN WE CLAIM THE PARK BOARD, THAT THE PARK BOARD IS OPPOSED TO THIS. WE HAVE NO EVIDENCE OF THAT.

AND SO I JUST THINK THAT'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT TRUTH TO BRING FORWARD.

WE MAY HAVE PARK BOARD MEMBERS WHO PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT, BUT THE BOARD ITSELF HAS NOT MADE A STATEMENT TO SAY WE UNANIMOUSLY OR MINUS ONE, AS WAS SAID, OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO. THE BOARD DID PASS A RESOLUTION.

AND I WANT TO SAY IT WAS EITHER 1301 OR 14 TO 1 IN OPPOSITION TO THIS IN OPPOSITION.

AND DID THEY ADDRESS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHAT LIKE AS THESE BATCH PLANTS CONTINUE OR THIS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL CONTINUES, OR DO THEY JUST SAY, WE DON'T WANT THIS ONE PROJECT? I DON'T HAVE THE RESOLUTION BEFORE ME. BUT JUST TO SUM IT UP IS BASICALLY AN OPPOSITION OF THE BATCH PLANT BEING NEXT TO MONEYGRAM.

AND DID THEY AND ALL THE OTHER AND THE OTHER PARK FACILITIES NEARBY.

AND DID THEY ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE EXPANSION OF THIS.

IF WE ADD ONE MORE FIELD THAT HAS A TREE IN IT, THAT WE'RE LIKELY TO LOSE POTENTIAL MORE TREES DESPITE THE ONGOING ACTIVITY OF THESE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. NO, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE BOARD.

THEY DIDN'T DO THAT. THEY JUST SAID SO. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RESOLUTION. THE RESOLUTION SAID, WE DON'T WANT WE DON'T WANT THIS BATCH PLANT NEXT TO MONEYGRAM.

THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION. JUST TO SUM IT UP.

OKAY. WELL GREAT. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S NOT HELPFUL AT ALL BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CONTEXT.

THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF THE BIGGER PICTURE. THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF THE OUTCOME OF THIS IN TERMS OF EXPANDING MONEYGRAM, OF THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE TREES AND THEIR THEIR ROLE.

TO ME, THE THE YOU KNOW, THAT ROLE IS SO UNDERSTATED IN THIS WHOLE PROJECT, WHICH IS WHY I OPPOSED MY COLLEAGUE'S ATTEMPT TO TO TAKE OUT MORE TREES.

YOU KNOW, TO NOT REQUIRE MORE TREES. RATHER. SO TO ME, AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T HOLD THE THE WEIGHT THAT IT SHOULD.

AND I'M SORRY THAT THEY WANT THERE TO BE NOTHING THERE EXCEPT FOR FIELDS.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE CITY PLAN. THE FACT THAT THEY DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT FORWARD DALLAS WHEN THEY DID THIS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING TO ME FROM MY ENVIRONMENTAL COLLEAGUES AND PARK BOARD, IS THAT THEY'RE NOT OFFERING ANY SOLUTIONS AT ALL TO THIS PROBLEM.

THEY'RE JUST SAYING NO HEAVY INDUSTRY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WELL, THAT DOESN'T WORK. AND SO I'VE ALWAYS LED BY SAYING, IF YOU'VE GOT IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION TO SOMETHING, THEN PLEASE BRING A SOLUTION FORWARD. AND BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN NO SOLUTIONS OFFERED BY ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION, NO ALTERNATIVES AT ALL. NOBODY WENT OUT LOOKING FOR A NEW SPOT FOR MR. JOHNSON TO GO OUT. NOBODY JUST SAID, NO, I DON'T WANT IT.

WELL, THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK. ESPECIALLY SINCE WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME DESIGNATING THIS PARTICULAR AREA AS A HEAVY INDUSTRY AREA.

AND AGAIN, I OFFER MY WILLINGNESS TO FIND TO LIMIT IT TO WHERE YOU ARE NOW.

NO ONE'S TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MONEY, GRAM. NO ONE AT ALL IS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY MONEY.

GRAM. IN FACT, I'D PREFER THAT YOU PRESERVE IT BY AND PEOPLE'S LUNGS, BY KEEPING THOSE TREES THERE AND NOT EXPANDING THE FIELDS AND FINDING NEW PLACES FOR THE FIELDS. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART. YEAH. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR.

ACTUALLY, NO. YEAH, YEAH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. EVERYBODY'S ON THREE MINUTES NOW. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

JOHN, WE'VE HAD A FEW CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE PARKS IN THIS REGION, AND THERE'S MORE THAN JUST MONEY.

GRAM, CAN YOU DESCRIBE TO ME? I BELIEVE THERE'S A GOLF COURSE.

WHAT ELSE IS OUT IN THIS AREA? YEAH. SO YOU HAVE THE SHOOTING RANGE AND THEN NEXT TO THE SHOOTING RANGE.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YEAH. YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THE GUN RANGE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE NEXT TO THE GUN RANGE. YOU HAVE THE GOLF COURSE.

AND THEN WHAT GOLF COURSE IS THAT. WHAT GOLF COURSE IS THAT? THE GOLF COURSE IS LUNA. OKAY. SO YOU HAVE LUNA GOLF COURSE LUNA VISTA.

AND THEN RIGHT NEXT TO THAT, WELL, PART OF THAT COMPLEX, YOU HAVE THE TENNIS CENTER, A TENNIS CENTER AS WELL.

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JOHN. THAT HELPS GIVE SOME CONTEXT. SO WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT MONEYGRAM PARK.

WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT OTHER PARK FACILITIES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A GOLF COURSE, A TENNIS CENTER AND A GUN RANGE.

LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN THE BATCH PLANTS.

IT LOOKS TO ME AS IF THE BATCH PLANTS CAME IN AROUND THE EARLY 1980S, SO I'M NOT GOING TO.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AND HAS NOW COME TO A HEAD.

AND IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE KNOW TODAY ABOUT PARTICULATE MATTER, IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HOW THAT PARTICULATE MATTER IMPACTS THE HEALTH OF CHILDREN AND OTHER AND OTHER FOLKS, AND IN LIGHT OF OUR NEED TO RESPECT SMALL BUSINESSES, I WAS THE OWNER OF A SMALL BUSINESS. AND I REMEMBER WHEN THE CITY CAME IN AND TOLD ME I HAD TO MOVE A SINK, OR I HAD TO HAVE MY GREASE TRAP CLEANED MORE FREQUENTLY.

THAT HIT MY BOTTOM LINE, AND THAT WAS HARD. AND OBVIOUSLY I WAS A VERY SMALL, SMALL BUSINESS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE SMALL BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND I THINK WE CAN SEE HOW WE GOT HERE.

BUT WE CAN'T JUST STAY IN THIS TENSE SPOT WHERE THESE TWO USES ARE FIGHTING.

RIGHT. THEY'RE THERE. THEY'RE BOTH THERE. MY HUNCH IS THEY'RE NOT EITHER ONE MOVING.

SO WE HAVE GOT TO FIND A WAY. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DEB RASTOGI JUST HAD A SEAT, SO I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THIS TO YOU.

YOU'RE GOOD AT PROBLEM SOLVING. BUT I THINK WE HAVE GOT TO GET SOME VERY SMART PEOPLE IN A ROOM AND FIGURE OUT HOW THESE TWO USES CAN BE COMPATIBLE OR AS COMPATIBLE AS POSSIBLE. AND I KNOW THAT MAY SOUND RADICAL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE ONE, YOU SEEM TO BE SAYING IT'S MINE, AND ANOTHER USE SEEMS TO BE SAYING NO, IT'S MINE, BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE BOTH UNTIL WE DO SOMETHING RADICALLY DIFFERENT.

AND SO I WOULD REALLY CHALLENGE US. I THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM SOLVING GROUP.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I TRUST IN THE PROBLEM SOLVING ABILITY OF THIS CITY AND OF THIS COUNCIL.

SO I CHALLENGE US TO SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THIS OUT AND OH MY GOODNESS, I'M GOING TO USE UP ALL MY TIME AND I NEVER DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON CHAIRMAN GRACIE'S AMENDMENT, AS AMENDED. THANK YOU. IS FINE PARTICULATE MATTER VISIBLE? ALL RIGHT. SO PM 2 P.M. TEN IS VISIBLE, BUT PM 2.5 THE SMALLER PARTICLES ARE NOT VISIBLE.

WILL SLATS AND MESH ON SOME SORT OF FENCE? WHETHER IT'S 6FT OR 12FT, WILL THAT ACTUALLY STOP? FINE. PARTICULATES? YEAH. FINE. PARTICULATES? FINE. PARTICULATES CAN FLOAT IN THE AIR FOR DAYS.

SO NOT NECESSARILY. AND WOULD YOU BE THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER OR NOT FINE PARTICULATES ARE MORE HARMFUL THAN LARGER ONES? OUR MEDICAL DOCTORS HAVE SAID THAT. BUT WOULD YOU AFFIRM THAT? AS OUR HEAD ENVIRONMENTALIST, I WILL SAY THAT FINE PARTICULATE MATTER CAN DEFINITELY NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR RESPIRATORY SYSTEM, BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY CAN GO IN YOUR LUNGS AND YOUR BLOODSTREAM.

CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THE OTHER ISSUE IS HOW WOULD SLATS OR MESH AS PROPOSED UNDER THIS AMENDMENT, ARE THEY ABLE TO FILTER OUT HARMFUL GASES OR FUMES OR ULTRAFINE PARTICLES.

WELL, SOME OF THOSE PARTICLES IN THE AIR OF COURSE. SO NO, I WOULDN'T SAY I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A SOLID 100% YES OR NO TO THAT BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF FABRIC OR BUT I MEAN, IN GENERAL, AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, GAS CAN FLOAT IN THE AIR. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 12FT FENCES.

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SO MAYBE THERE'LL BE SOME REDUCTION OF THE LARGER PARTICLES.

AND I THINK AT A TWO WEEKS AGO, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE IT ON CARS AND IN TREES.

BUT THAT'S THE LARGER PARTICLES. THAT'S NOT THE FINE PARTICULATE.

CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. SO THE AMENDMENT DOESN'T ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING ISSUE, WHICH IS THE HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE.

RIGHT. BUT I DO WANT TO STATE THAT TREES IN DIFFERENT FORMS OF CAN CAN HELP MITIGATE FINE PARTICULATE PARTICLES.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY COULDN'T BE MITIGATED TO SOME DEGREE, BUT THEY'RE MORE DIFFICULT TO MITIGATE THAN THOSE LARGER PM10 PARTICLES.

WELL, MY GUESS IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO PLANT TREES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY FACING.

SO THANK YOU FOR CLEARING UP THAT INFORMATION.

APPRECIATE IT. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR.

ACTUALLY, I WANT TO CONFIRM THIS. MY. I SEE. OKAY.

YEAH. YOU'RE ON A SECOND ROUND FOR THREE MINUTES.

MR. ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES, AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT, AS AMENDED. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. I WOULD NEED MISS UDREA, OUR REPRESENTATIVE.

JUST FOR CLARITY. IS MR. JOHNSON APPLYING FOR A BATCH PLANT? A SUP FOR THE OPERATION OF HIS BATCH PLANT? YES.

ARE THERE OTHER BATCH PLANTS THAT MIRROR THE SAME OPERATION THAT HE'S APPLYING FOR? THERE ARE OTHER BATCH PLANTS IN THE AREA. YES.

IS IT A BATCH PLANT THAT WILL MIRROR SOME OF THE SAME PERFORMANCE AND BEHAVIORS OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE SIMILARLY SITUATED THERE? I WOULD LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT. FOR US.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF COMPLYING WITH THE CONDITIONS.

A BATCH PLANT. COULD HE COME UP? MAYOR. MR. JOHNSON.

CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? YES. I'M ASKING NOW.

I'M TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE LAND. A FIRST OF ALL, THE ZONING WENT TO MR. DURYEA ON LAND USE. ARE. OR IS YOUR BATCH PLANT IT SIMILAR IN OPERATIONS AND IMPACTS OF THE OTHERS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA. MY MY BEST PLAN IS SMALLER. I CAN'T PUT OUT THE SAME OUTPUT, BUT YOU PERFORM WHAT YOU ARE.

YOUR IS YOUR FUNCTION. WE DO THE SAME THING. SO WHAT DO YOU ALL DO? WHAT DO YOU DO THAT THEY'RE DOING? WE CREATE CONCRETE.

WE POUR CONCRETE. ARE YOU SURE THE REST OF THOSE OPERATORS ARE.

ARE? WELL, I'D SAY SURE, BUT BASED ON THEIR CLASSIFICATIONS, SHOULD THEY BE PRODUCING A WORKING WITH OR CREATING CONCRETE? A PROCESS AND CONCRETE. IS THAT IS THAT WHAT A BATCH PLAN DOES? YES. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

YES, MA'AM. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO. THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS ESTUARY. ALL RIGHT.

NOW HAS. AND SO IN YOUR, IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF TO BE A PROFESSIONAL.

YES, MA'AM. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE, THE THE OPERATION THAT YOU ARE THEN I GUESS THE BUSINESS THAT YOU HAVE, YOU'RE. WOULD YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF TO BE A KNOWLEDGEABLE BUSINESSMAN.

YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. AND SO WHEN YOU MADE THIS APPLICATION, SIR, AND YOU SELECTED OR WAS DIRECTED TO THAT SITE, DID YOU SEE OTHER PLANTS THAT LOOKED. I MEAN, OPERATIONS THAT LOOKED LIKE BATCH PLANTS? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S WHY I CHOSE THE PARTICULAR SITE, BECAUSE MARTIN MARIETTA HAS TWO BATCH PLANTS THAT I CAN WALK TO FROM MY SITE.

ABOUT HOW MANY DO YOU SEE? DID YOU SEE OUT THERE? MARTIN MARIETTA HAS TWO. BYRNE CO HAS ONE. SRM HAS ONE.

NORTEX. SO I SAW A COW TOWN, SO ABOUT 6 OR 7 WITH MY VISIBLE EYE.

ALL RIGHT. DID YOU SEE ANY RESTAURANTS OUT THERE? NO, MA'AM. HOUSES? NO, MA'AM. BOUTIQUE MOTELS? NO, MA'AM. HOTELS? NO, MA'AM. BASEBALL FIELDS?

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WOULD YOU LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT AIR MEANS? INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH. ALL RIGHT. AND SO YOU YOU YOU FIGURED THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE FOR YOU TO TAKE YOUR BUSINESS.

CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW I'M GETTING TO THESE POINTS.

ZONING CLASSIFICATION. HE MEETS THAT LAND USE.

HE MATCHES THE OTHER BATCH PLANTS. PERFORMANCE.

WILL YOU BE REQUIRED? AND PERHAPS I NEED TO ASK STAFF THAT.

MAYBE. MISS UDREA, COULD YOU ASK TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION? OR IF I HAVE TO ASK THE ATTORNEY, I WILL DO THAT.

WILL MR. JOHNSON'S PLANT. IF IT IS ACCEPTED AND VOTED ON TODAY, WILL HE BE REQUIRED TO MEET THE SAME REGULATORY AND TECHNICAL STANDARDS OF THE OTHER BATCH PLANTS IN THE AREA? YES. THEY WILL NEED A PERMIT FROM T-C-E-Q. WELL, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

YES. SO HE'S BEING HE'S A BATCH PLANT. HE'S HE'S A BATCH PLANT, NOT A RESTAURANT.

YES, HE'S GOING TO PERFORM THE SAME TASK AS THE OTHER BATCH PLANTS IN THAT VICINITY.

IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? YES. HE'S GOING TO MEET THE SAME REGULATORY AND TECHNICAL STANDARDS.

THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT. YES, THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR US BEING HERE TO GIVE HIM THAT OPERATION, THAT PERMISSION TO OPERATE. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND SO FOR US NOW.

THANK YOU. COUNSEL. THE ONLY REASON I'M REALLY REPEATING THIS, AND I MAY HAVE TO COME BACK, IS WHEN I RECEIVED THOSE NOTIFICATIONS OF CONCERN.

I TOLD YOU I TRAVELED THERE, I SAW FOR MYSELF.

I DIDN'T MAKE IT UP. BATCH PLANTS IN THE LOCATION.

IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. NO CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL.

NO YELLOW BUSSES CARRYING ANY KIDS ANYWHERE. NO RESTAURANTS, NO HOTELS.

LS. ALL I SAW WAS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. AND SO WHEN WE TRAVELED THROUGH THE GATE THAT WE WERE TOLD WE COULDN'T GO THROUGH.

BUT I WENT ANYWAY BECAUSE I NEEDED TO FIND THIS MONEYGRAM.

NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH INSTAGRAM. ALL RIGHT.

SO MONEYGRAM WE SAW AND I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE WHAT I SAW.

SO NOW WE ASKED WHAT CAME FIRST THE BATCH PLANTS OR THE OR THE SOCCER FIELD.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE BATCH PLANTS WERE THERE.

MR. JOHNSON YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP REAL QUICK? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S TRUE. SO DID YOU UNDERSTAND? DID YOU HAVE SOME HISTORY OR SOME KNOWLEDGE THAT WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE BATCH PLANTS WERE THERE? WELL, I ALWAYS KNEW THEY WERE THERE, BUT WHEN I CHOSE THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, I NEVER KNEW THAT THERE WAS SOCCER FIELDS THERE BECAUSE OF THE TREE LINE, AS THEY SAY, THE BUFFER YARD, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S 20 ACRES OF TREES.

SO I NEVER SAW SOCCER FIELD, SIR. SO YOU ARE HERE TODAY TO GET PERMISSION TO OPERATE.

AND SO COUNSEL THE WORDS THAT COME TO ME. ARBITRARY.

CAPRICIOUS. I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, IF WE TREAT HIM DIFFERENTLY, YOU HAVE OPERATIONS TO BATCH PLANTS, YOUR BATCH PLANT. AND THERE ARE OTHER BATCH PLANTS OUT THERE.

AND SO NOW WE'RE BEING ASKED TO TREAT HIM DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE HE'S ASKING FOR SUP IN SOME OF THE OTHERS HAVE A PERMANENT PERMANENT OPERATION LICENSE, SO TO SPEAK. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT AND I'M NOT I UNDERSTAND I'M NOT A LAWYER, TOTALLY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE FEEL OF LOOKING THE SAME, LOOKING AT TWO THINGS THAT ARE JUST THE SAME, BUT THEY'RE TREATED DIFFERENTLY. AND THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME BECAUSE IT'S ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS.

IF WE DENY HIM THIS OPPORTUNITY, THAT WAS A NICE USE OF ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS, THOUGH I WILL TELL YOU.

THANK YOU. YOU ARE OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU FOR THIS, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR. MOORE. YOU'RE WELCOME. MORE. YOU'VE GOT MORE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEPRIVE YOU OF YOUR OTHER ROUNDS, BUT I WANT TO BE FAIR.

OKAY. NOW, CHAIRMAN GRACEY, WE'RE ON YOUR ACCUSED MESSED UP, BUT YOU'RE ON THE SECOND ROUND.

THREE MINUTES ON YOUR OWN AMENDMENT. YES, SIR. AND AS AMENDED.

YES, SIR. AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO WITHDRAW THAT AMENDMENT. SORRY TO HAVE WASTED EVERYONE'S TIME. I'M GOING TO WITHDRAW THAT. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO JUST WITHDRAW AN AMENDMENT WITHOUT ANY WITHOUT THE BODY AGREEING TO IT.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN ADOPTED. OKAY. WELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE A MOTION TO.

YES. YOU SURE CAN. TO WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT. IS THERE A SECOND? EXCUSE ME. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. I HAVE SOMETHING IN MY THROAT NOW.

SORRY. I'M EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

STATE YOUR INQUIRY. WHAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT OF WITHDRAWING THE MOTION? WOULD IT REVERT BACK TO THE BAZALDUA AMENDMENT? OR WOULD IT REVERT BACK TO HIS PRIOR AMENDMENT IF HE WITHDREW HIS AMENDMENTS BEEN AMENDED? HE AMENDED HIS OWN AMENDMENT. IF HIS AMENDMENT IS SUCCESSFULLY WITHDRAWN, THEN WE WILL BE BACK ON ITEM Z8.

AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY MOVED BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

THERE WILL BE NO AMENDMENT. THE AMENDMENT IS GONE.

THE AMENDMENT TWO AMENDMENT WAS MERGED INTO THE AMENDMENT. SO WE HAVE ONE AMENDED AMENDMENT,

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SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEBATE RIGHT NOW ON WHETHER OR NOT I'D LIKE TO NOTE.

I DIDN'T ASK THE QUESTION JUST TO HAVE YOU DO THAT, BUT IT WAS VERY ENTERTAINING.

IT'S JUST. YEAH. SO, OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON YOUR MOTION TO WITHDRAW YOUR AMENDMENT? IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT? OKAY.

YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE. RECORD VOTE PLEASE. OKAY.

THERE'S A RECORD. VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED. AND IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THIS MOTION, THEN WE'LL VOTE. MADAM SECRETARY, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

THIS IS TO. THIS IS TO ALLOW THE WITHDRAWAL OF THIS AMENDMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MORENO. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

NARVAEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. WILLIS. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

RIDLEY. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA. YES.

MAYOR PRO TEM ATKINS. YES. MAYOR. JOHNSON. YES.

WITH ALL 15 MEMBERS OF COUNCIL VOTING IN FAVOR, THE AMENDMENT PASSES, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, SO THE THE THE MOTION IS ADOPTED, WHICH MEANS THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, WHICH MEANS WE ARE NOW BACK ON ITEM Z EIGHT, AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY MOVED BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU FOR THAT LAST HOUR AND A HALF. MEMBERS APPRECIATE THAT.

WE'RE BACK WHERE WE STARTED. I HAVE THE CUE FROM THE ORIGINAL, SO I'M GOOD.

THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM DISTRICT SEVEN, 11, EIGHT, 12 AND THREE HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z EIGHT.

SO ANYONE ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM Z EIGHT? CHAIRMAN NARVAEZ RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON MS EIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND YOU ALL KNOW TWO WEEKS AGO THIS WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME.

AND IT'S NOT SO DIFFICULT THIS TIME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN VERY, VERY PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO, WHICH IS LISTEN TO MY COMMUNITY AND VOTE THE WAY THEY TOLD ME TO VOTE.

THAT'S MY JOB AS A REPRESENTATIVE. THE AND I SOMEBODY THANKED ME FOR THE WORK I DID ON THIS MOTION THAT MR. BAZALDUA DID. I DIDN'T I WAS NOT INVOLVED. SO THANK YOU FOR THE CREDIT, BUT I WAS NOT INVOLVED.

THE CREDIT NEEDS TO GO TO MR. BAZALDUA, WHO PICKED UP THE BATON AND DECIDED TO TRY TO SEE IF HE COULD DO WHAT I WAS UNABLE TO DO.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT, MR. BAZALDUA. I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT OR NOT.

I DID NOT WHIP VOTES. I DID NOT ASK ANYBODY TO VOTE.

NO, I DIDN'T ASK ANYBODY TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS.

I AM DOING EXACTLY WHAT MY COMMUNITY SAID TO DO.

HERE ARE THE PROBLEMS AND I THINK YOU ALL ELOQUENTLY POINTED THEM OUT.

ONE THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE AREA THAT WE ALL AGREED TO.

WE VOTED THIS ACTUALLY, THIS BODY VOTED TO APPROVE.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE GROVES OF TREES IN PARTICULATE MATTER. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT. AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER, NONE OF IT MATTERS.

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THIS THE RIGHT PLACE OR NOT, WITH THE LAND USE.

MR. JOHNSON DID COME AND VISIT ME ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND ASKED ME IF THIS WAS THE RIGHT LOCATION, WOULD I BE GOOD WITH THIS? AND I SAID I WOULD, BECAUSE THIS WAS THE LOCATION THAT SINCE I GOT HERE IN 2017, THAT I HELPED MOVE CEMENT BATCH PLANTS TO OUT OF WEST DALLAS THAT WERE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE THE GOALPOST HAS SHIFTED DURING THIS YEAR, AND THAT'S OKAY.

THINGS CHANGE IN LIFE. HAVE TO GET USED TO IT.

BUT WE HAVE NO POLICY. WE HAVE NOTHING THAT STATES WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THIS.

I'M NOT TELLING ANYBODY HOW THEY SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T VOTE ON THIS, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE I MADE MYSELF CLEAR LAST TIME THAT I WAS KEEPING MY PROMISE TO MY COMMUNITY.

AND I'M GOING TO STILL DO THAT. I WILL NOT TURN ON THEM BECAUSE THAT'S HAPPENED TOO LONG IN DISTRICT SIX.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I KNOW I'M SPEAKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF MY MOUTH ON THIS.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THESE.

IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HERE, THEN IT'S INDICATIVE OF ME TO MAKE SURE I TELL EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SOUPS.

YOU AIN'T GOT A CHANCE. WHY? WELL, BECAUSE I HAD TO KILL ONE.

WELL, WE HAD TO KILL ONE BECAUSE THEN WHAT'S BEING SAID BECOMES THE TRUTH THAT WE ARE TREATING ONE DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST.

BUT I'M GOING TO KEEP MY PROMISE TO MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

AND WHEN YOU MAKE A PROMISE, YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT.

YOU ALL DIDN'T MAKE A PROMISE TO MY COMMUNITY, SO YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU THINK IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO BASED ON YOUR COMMUNITY AND THE CITY

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YOU JUST HEARD IT FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF, MR. MAYOR. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE GO.

I'M OUT OF TIME. I TRIED, AND I. MADAM CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO HELP ME GET THIS GOING AND GET SOMETHING STARTED WHEN YOU HAVE SIX WEEKS TO TRY TO PRODUCE A POLICY THAT WOULD SAY WHERE THESE GO AND EVERYTHING BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE VOTED ON ON FORWARD DALLAS 2.0.

I KNOW YOU LOOKED AT ME. I WAS LIKE, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY.

WE TRIED. MADAM CITY MANAGER WAS RIGHT. IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE.

I KNEW THAT ALREADY. BUT YOU KNOW, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE OUR CAPES WORK.

BUT THIS TIME THEY DIDN'T. I HOPE THAT WHATEVER IS DECIDED HERE TODAY, MR. MAYOR, THAT THE FUTURE COUNCIL. I WON'T BE HERE.

AND THERE WILL BE THREE OTHERS OF US THAT WON'T BE HERE. AND I'VE SPOKEN TO COUNCILWOMAN ELECT CADENA, AND I'VE GIVEN HER THE 411 ON ALL OF THIS AND SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE REALLY BIG THING TO WORK ON BECAUSE NOBODY'S GOING TO WANT THIS IN THEIR DISTRICT ANYWHERE. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT THAT'S FOR THE FUTURE COUNCILS.

AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO WITH WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD.

WE GOT THEM OUT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN WEST DALLAS, THE ONES WE COULD.

THERE'S A COUPLE THAT WE JUST CAN'T BECAUSE THEY'RE PERMANENT LIKE THESE HERE IN THIS.

BUT WHAT GOES HERE NEXT, I HAVE NO IDEA. CAN'T BE HOUSING.

IT CAN'T BE A LOT OF THINGS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

AND WE HAVE TO CHOOSE TREES OR SOCCER FIELDS OR THIS OR THAT.

IT'S AN IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE. EVERYTHING. NOBODY WAS WRONG IN THIS.

EVERY ARGUMENT WAS CORRECT AND ACCURATE AND RIGHT.

AND I PRAY FOR OUR CITY EVERY NIGHT. AND I PRAY THAT WE GET THIS VOTE RIGHT.

AND IT'S THE AND WE CAN WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE CAN STICK WITH IT.

WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I WILL YIELD. AND I'VE SAID MY PIECE AND I'LL SLEEP WELL TONIGHT, HOWEVER THIS GOES DOWN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z-8.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. EVERYONE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE AND THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS KNOW MY LOVE AND SUPPORT FOR PARKS.

AS A FORMER PARK BOARD MEMBER THAT WAS MY ROLE TO PROTECT PARKS.

HOWEVER, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS MUCH DEEPER.

AS A FATHER OF A YOUNG LITTLE GIRL WHO'S AN ATHLETE.

CLEAN AIR IS IMPORTANT. AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND THE INPUT FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY.

AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I SEE THE THE THE HARDSHIPS AND THE EXTRA BURDENS THAT THE CITY PUTS ON SMALL BUSINESSES AT TIMES.

THIS APPLICANT HAS OPERATED IN DISTRICT TWO AND MY OFFICE NEVER RECEIVED A COMPLAINT OR A CONCERN.

THIS APPLICANT FOLLOWED THE RULES AND THE DIRECTION SET BEFORE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THEY FOLLOWED THE LOCATION FOR FOUR DALLAS 2.0 AND AS MENTIONED, NO ONE WANTS TO SEE A BATCH PLANT IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THE CITY MUST GROW AND WE NEED CONCRETE IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

AND SO I'M NOT HAPPY WITH SOME OF THE EXTRA BURDENS AND CHANGES THAT HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN AMENDED.

THE ADDED COST FOR MULTIPLE STOCKPILES, EXTRA FENCING, MORE TREES.

WE'RE PUTTING A BURDEN ON A SMALL BUSINESS. AND SO WHILE I DO NOT LOVE THOSE EXTRA COST ASSOCIATIONS WITH THOSE. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON Z-8.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AND JUST IN CLOSING, I DID WANT TO ALSO THANK THOSE SPEAKERS WHO CAME OUT TO SUPPORT MISTER BJ JOHNSON.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, I HOPE TODAY THAT WE WILL LOOK AT THE FACTS AS THEY ARE HERE AND SUPPORT THIS YOUNG MAN WHO IS BASICALLY COMING TO APPLY FOR AN OPERATION BASED ON A LEGAL A LEGAL APPLICATION.

THERE IS NO REASON TO DENY HIM THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I HOPE WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD TO BRING RESOLUTION.

BUT TO MISTER BJ JOHNSON, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO SAY I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THESE THINGS AND YOU LOOK AT POLITICS OR POLITICS OR WHICHEVER WAY YOU CALL IT, IT MAKES YOU STRONGER, I ASSURE YOU OF THAT. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT MAKES US STRONGER IN TERMS OF HOW WE HAVE TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE SOMETIMES AND TO DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH AND KNOW WE'VE GOT TO FACE THE PUBLIC.

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AND SO HE'S FOLLOWING THE LEGAL AVENUES. HE'S ASKING FOR OUR SUPPORT.

I WOULD HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET HIM ACROSS THE MARK.

IT MAY TAKE HIM 3 TO 5 YEARS FOR THE COUNCIL TO GET A GOOD BALANCE, BUT I THINK WE OWE THAT TO THIS CITY AND BE.

AND RESPECTFULLY, AS I STATED, IF YOU DIDN'T GO OUT THERE, THERE WAS NO SIGNS OF RESIDENTS OPERATING WITHIN THAT AREA THAT WE CAME IN ON THAT STREET. MANANA, IF I'M PRONOUNCING IT CORRECTLY.

BUT THERE WAS NO NO RESIDENTS THERE. AND SO I FELT A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT MR. BJ'S OPERATION WAS NOT A THREAT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT HIM. I DON'T REALLY KNOW, MR. BJ, BUT I DO KNOW HIS STORY. I'VE MET HIM MAYBE ONCE.

SO WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER AND ALL OF THAT.

I JUST KNOW THE FACTS THAT ARE PRESENTED THAT HE PRESENT TODAY AND THAT I HAVE SEEN.

SO MY GOAL AND MY SUPPORT WILL BE FOR MR. BJ.

BUT PLEASE THINK ABOUT THIS. YOU HAVE TWO OPERATIONS THAT ARE SAYING ONE HAS A PERMANENT OPPORTUNITY TO EXIST.

IF MR. BJ IS ABLE TO GET THE SUP, THAT BRINGS HIM UP TO THE SAME LEVEL OF BEING ABLE TO OPERATE.

BUT WE ARE TREATING HIM DIFFERENTLY. AND NO ONE WANTS TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.

ALL HE NEEDS IS A STEP UP SO THAT HE CAN OPERATE.

SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THOSE VOTES THAT WE NEED AND BE RESPECTFUL OF THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US.

WE'VE GOT TO WORK IT OUT. AND SO I'M GOING TO WRAP UP BY SAYING, ONCE AGAIN, LET US NOT BE ARBITRARY, ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS IN OUR APPLICATION OF THIS PROCESS.

YOU NEED TO TREAT HIM RIGHT AND TREAT HIM FAIRLY.

AND THAT MEANS GRANTING THIS SOUP SO THAT HE CAN CONDUCT HIS BUSINESS.

AS WE SAID, WE WANT HERE IN THIS CITY CREATING ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, HIRING PEOPLE, BRINGING ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE SKILLED ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY ZONES OR WHERE WE CAN OPERATE.

SO, CITY MANAGER, I THANK YOU FOR THOSE STAFF MEMBERS, ANDREA.

SHE KNOWS I ALWAYS I'M ALWAYS GOING TO TELL HER THANK YOU BECAUSE I KNOW SHE WORKS AND SHE HAS TO TAKE A LOT OF HEAT FROM US, BUT THAT'S ALRIGHT. SHE CAN HANDLE IT. BUT IT'S IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE ON STAFF WHO CAN CREATE AND IDENTIFY AND WORK THROUGH.

SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. BUT I HOPE WITH ALL OF YOUR EXPERTISE AND TALENT TODAY, IT WILL INFLUENCE AT LEAST EIGHT VOTES HERE TO GIVE MR. BJ THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO ABOUT HIS WAY TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS.

THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON C8.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY 12 VOTES.

BUT SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS. THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT WHEN THE DATES AROUND WHAT WAS THEIR FIRST.

AND SO WE PROVIDED A LIST AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S EDIFICATION A CONCRETE BATCHING PLANT PERMANENT SO IT DOESN'T COME UP FOR RENEWAL.

APPROVED IN 1982, A CONCRETE BATCHING PLANT, INDUSTRIAL OUTSIDE USE.

IT DOES COME UP FOR RENEWAL. THAT WAS IN 2002, A SALVAGE YARD.

SO THAT WAS BACK IN 1982. IT'S PERMANENT. IT DOESN'T COME UP FOR RENEWAL.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF SETTING THE TONE ON WHAT THIS AREA WOULD BE.

CONCRETE AND ASPHALT FOR CRUSHING WAS A RECENT VOTE.

THAT WAS IN 2020 BEFORE MY TIME, BUT THAT WAS RECENT.

WE HAD ANOTHER ONE ON CONCRETE CRUSHING IN 2024.

SO YOU KNOW, THESE DATES GO BACK TO HERE'S A CONCRETE BATCHING PLANT.

PERMANENT. NO, NO SOUP COMING UP FOR RENEWAL FROM 1982.

AND SO THIS GOES BACK PRETTY FAR. AND THEN IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT WE BUILT THE SOCCER FIELDS WITH APPROVAL.

I THINK IT WAS A VERY ROMANTIC NOTION TO START TURNING LAND FIELDS INTO SOCCER OR LANDFILLS INTO SOCCER FIELDS.

BUT HERE WE ARE IN THIS BIPOLAR STATE, AND I WON'T CALL THE THE STAFF BACK UP.

BUT I SPOKE WITH MR. WHITE ABOUT THE AIR SENSOR AT MONEYGRAM FIELD AND ABOUT THE READINGS ON IT,

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I ASKED HIM ABOUT PARTICULATE AND WHAT THAT INCLUDES, AND IT INCLUDES SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY, LIKE SOIL AND MULCH AND WOOD. AND SO ANOTHER ISSUE WAS THE PROXIMITY TO THE SOCCER FIELDS.

WE'RE BEING TOLD IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR. WELL, THERE'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY BIG TREE BUFFER, I MEAN, AND TO MR. WHITE'S POINT, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD FILTER FOR PARTICULATE.

SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN FLOATING AROUND THAT HAVE BEEN MISREPRESENTATIONS.

BUT AND THEN I DO I THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT HERE TO SPEAK ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THIS, BUT IF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THIS WEREN'T OPPOSED TO IT, THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING THEIR JOB.

SO PHYSICIANS ARE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION. THE PARK BOARD.

I CAN'T IMAGINE THEM SAYING, OH YEAH, I BUILD ANOTHER CONCRETE BATCH PLANT, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU PAY FOR $345 MILLION WORTH OF O&M ON OUR 2024 BOND PROJECTS WITHOUT BUILDING A CITY AND GROWING THE TAX BASE.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, MOONBEAMS AND UNICORN BREATH.

IT IS MONEY. IT'S FROM BUILDING A CITY. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE MONEY THAT IT TAKES TO TO BUILD MORE PARKS AND TO MAINTAIN OUR PARKS.

ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK WE ALL PROBABLY HAVE INBOXES FULL OF REQUESTS FOR STREET REPAIR AND ALLEYS AND NEW SIDEWALKS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S SOME OF THAT'S CONCRETE. AND SO IF WE'VE GOT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN NEED, WHICH WE KNOW WE DO BECAUSE WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS BOND PROGRAM.

THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO LISTEN TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT IS TO FULFILL THEIR REQUEST FOR A BASIC COVENANT WITH OUR TAXPAYER.

AND THAT IS KEEPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE UP. AND THAT INVOLVES CONCRETE.

NOW, I WISH THAT WE HADN'T MADE A DECISION TO PUT THE SOCCER FIELDS CLOSE TO WHERE ASPHALT AND CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS ALREADY EXISTED, AND I HOPE IN 20 YEARS WE'RE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING WHERE THOSE BELONG IN THIS CITY.

BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. SO SOMETHING REALLY GOOD THAT'S COME OUT OF THIS, I THINK ARE THE IDEAS.

AND MISS STEWART, I THINK THIS WILL LAY AT YOUR FEET, BUT ARE THE VOLUNTARY MEASURES THAT WE CAN START TAKING RIGHT NOW.

AND I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE VIEWED AS YOU'RE MAKING ME DO MORE FOR MY PARTICULAR REQUEST.

I THINK THAT AS THESE COME FORWARD, OTHERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO MORE, AND I DON'T WANT TO WAIT FOR THAT SUP RENEWAL TO COME UP.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR PT COMMUNITY COMMITTEE WORK ON ASSESSMENTS AND VOLUNTARY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THESE OTHER BATCH PLANTS AND INDUSTRIAL USES COULD START ENACTING TODAY, BECAUSE WHEN THAT SUP COMES UP FOR RENEWAL, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER WHETHER THEY TOOK THE VOLUNTARY MEASURES TO HELP CREATE A BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR US.

BUT I, I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE NEED WE NEED THIS TO GROW OUR CITY.

AND IT'S A TOUGH DECISION TO TO VOTE IN FAVOR FOR THIS.

BUT IT IS IT IS SO CRITICAL TO OUR STREETS, OUR ROADS, OUR CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO I SUPPORT IT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON Z EIGHT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSION AND I APPLAUD, YOU KNOW, ALL COLLEAGUES FOR. SHARING THEIR CONCERNS AND SENTIMENTS I APPLAUD YOU.

YOU KNOW, MR. NARVAEZ, FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE HAD A SOLUTION TO MEET AND THAT WE DO HAVE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU'RE IN A COMPROMISED POSITION BECAUSE OF NEEDING TO STAY LOYAL TO YOUR RESIDENTS, BUT I THINK THAT IT WAS VERY POWERFUL TO HEAR YOU NOT SPEAK AGAINST THE FACT THAT WE HAVE FOUND A SOLUTION.

AND SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT THE SENTIMENT IS, IS HELPFUL.

I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT, THOUGH, TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE.

WE HAD THIS FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 AND AN AREA PLAN THAT TRIGGERED SOME AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.

AND THERE'S SOME INCONSISTENCY, SOME IRONY, AND QUITE FRANKLY, SOME HYPOCRISY.

THAT HAS COME FROM THIS BODY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AUTHORIZED HEARING AND UNDOING INDUSTRIAL ZONING CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, IN FACT, SOMEONE WHO IS OPPOSING ANY SOLUTION WE HAVE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SMALL BUSINESS TO EXIST WHERE WE SAID INDUSTRIAL SHOULD EXIST WAS STATED THAT THE RESIDENTS AROUND FLORAL FARMS SHOULD MOVE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE INDUSTRIAL BELONGS.

AND SO BLACK DALLASITES WHO WERE PLAGUED BY INDUSTRY ZONING.

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AND HERE WE ARE AT A TIME WHERE WE HAVE FOUND A LOCATION TO CONCENTRATE INDUSTRY ZONING.

AND WE HAVE A SMALL BLACK OWNED BUSINESS. AND APPARENTLY, THE ANSWER, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE DESIGNATED THIS AREA AS INDUSTRY, IS THAT THEY SHOULD JUST MOVE FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I SEE A PATTERN HERE, AND I'VE HEARD MANY RHETORICAL QUESTIONS ON WHY THIS IS BEING DEALT WITH IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN OTHER CASES.

I THINK THAT I'VE GIVEN THAT ANSWER, MR. MAYOR.

I HOPE THAT WE CAN DO WHAT'S RIGHT, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THIS OBJECTIVELY AND LOOK AT THIS WITH OTHER DECISIONS WE'VE MADE IN THE PAST THAT HAVE BROUGHT US TO HAVING TO MAKE THIS DECISION, WHICH IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING WITH LAND USE, TRYING TO DESIGNATE WHERE WE CAN DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE TOLD US TO DO.

MAYOR, AS A GOAL FOR OUR CITY, WHICH IS BUILD, BABY, BUILD.

WE WANT TO SEE DIRT TURN. WE WANT TO SEE Y'ALL STREET.

Y'ALL STREET NEEDS CONCRETE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS PRAGMATICALLY AND NOT POLITICALLY.

AND THE ONLY ARGUMENTS I'VE HEARD SO FAR TO OPPOSE THIS IS POLITICS AND IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE.

I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THE JOB TO MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN ARNOLD, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON ITEM Z8.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU FOR CLARITY.

WILL WE NEED HOW MANY VOTES AGAINST YOUR TIME? THERE'S A POINT OF. IS IT A POINT OF INFORMATION? I'M SORRY. HOW MANY VOTES DOES MR. BJ NEED FOR THIS TO GET HIS SUP? I'LL LET THE PARLIAMENTARY ANSWER THAT.

THAT'S A PERCENTAGE OF THE FULL BODY, I BELIEVE.

IT'S WHAT, THREE QUARTERS OR. BUT I'LL LET YOU TELL HER WHAT THAT NUMBER TRANSLATES INTO.

THANK YOU MAYOR. IT'S THREE QUARTER VOTE. SO IT WOULD BE 12 MEMBERS WOULD HAVE TO VOTE TO APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT. SO FOR IT TO PASS. THANK YOU. I JUST NEED CLARITY BECAUSE I SAID EIGHT.

AND SO I WAS CORRECTED. SO WE NEED 12. SO I'M HOPING THAT WE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING AND SUPPORT MR. BJ BY GIVING 12 VOTES ARE MORE IF HE CAN GET THEM, SO THAT HE CAN DO AND PERFORM IN A WAY THAT MY COLLEAGUE WILLIS COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS SO ELOQUENTLY DESCRIBED.

WE NEED HIS EXPERTISE. WE NEED TO KEEP BUILDING DALLAS AND TO BORROW, I THINK, A PHRASE FROM OUR NEIGHBOR MAYOR, I BELIEVE IT SAYS BIG ENERGY.

IS THAT CORRECT, MAYOR? BIG ENERGY. SO BIG ENERGY.

WE GET MORE ENERGY ROLLING OUT OF THOSE BATCH PLANTS, PUTTING THAT CONCRETE OUT SO WE CAN GET THESE STREETS BUILT.

WE CAN HAVE CARS THAT ARE RIDING TODAY. WE APPROVED THE BIKE PLAN, SO THEY'LL HAVE GOOD ROADS TO RIDE ON.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, MAYOR. BUT SERIOUSLY, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO LAUGH TO KEEP FROM CRYING.

12 VOTES IS WHAT MR. BJ NEEDS TODAY SO WE CAN GIVE HIM THAT.

I BELIEVE WE CAN STAND TALL IN THIS CITY AS DECISION MAKERS WHO WHO FOUND THE BALANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP ON MOVING ON. AND MR. BJ JOHNSON, THIS WAS A GOOD LESSON TODAY.

A LESSON ALL PROBABLY FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. YOU'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THIS TODAY IF WE CAN GET THE 12 VOTES THAT YOU NEED.

SO I JUST WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON THAT AND TO ADD THE BIG ENERGY MAYOR, SO THAT THEY WILL KNOW WHERE WE ARE STANDING AS A CITY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ZONING ITEMS? EIGHT. RECORD. VOTE PLEASE RECORD VOTES BEEN REQUESTED AND A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN GRANTED.

IF THERE IS NO ONE ELSE. MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED. AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE YOUR RESPONSE IN THE MICROPHONES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ARNOLD. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RESENDEZ. I'LL COME BACK. COUNCIL MEMBER. NARVAEZ.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. SCHULTZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. NO. COUNCILMEMBER. WILLIS. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

RIDLEY. NO. COUNCILMEMBER. RESENDEZ. NO.

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YES. MAYOR JOHNSON. WITH TEN VOTING IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED.

THE MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM.

YOUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE PH ONE. OH. IT'S OKAY.

[PH1. A public hearing to receive comments on the FY 2025-26 Operating, Capital, and Grant & Trust Budgets - Financing: No cost consideration to the City 25-1093A]

ARE THERE ANY? THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM PH ONE? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. MOTION. I NEED A MOTION.

SPEAKER. ONE SECOND. WHAT'S WAS THAT? ITEM ONE.

THERE WERE NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. THAT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

ITEM. I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND. ANY OPPOSED? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE.

WAIT WAIT WAIT. A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY IS THAT THE VOTING HAS STARTED.

IS THAT THE PROPER MOTION? THAT'S TRUE. THE VOTING HAS STARTED IN ORDER.

THIS IS OUT OF ORDER. IT'S AN ORDER. CAN YOU VOTE ON OUT OF ORDER MOTION? THIS IS A UNIQUE ITEM IN THAT. REALLY? IT'S JUST CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I DON'T THINK IT'S OUT OF ORDER. IT'S JUST SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE HISTORICALLY JUST SAY MOVE APPROVAL, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.

BUT IS THERE A YES NO VOTE ON IT? I DO. MAY I STATE MY MOTION? YOU NEED A MOVE. I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. SECOND, THEN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRY. NEXT ITEM. YES. MR. MAYOR, ON I. MAY I BE RECOGNIZED? I'M SORRY. I'M BILIERAE. I GOT AHEAD OF YOU. GO.

GO BACK, GO BACK. OKAY. YES, MR. MAYOR. I MOVED TO MAKING A MOTION TO RECONSIDER ITEM Z7, THE ONE THAT I DEFERRED EARLIER TODAY.

WITH. IF I CAN GET A SECOND. SO THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND.

WITH WHAT JUST HAPPENED HERE. WE'VE BASICALLY MADE POLICY, AND THERE'S NO SENSE IN ME GOING BACK TO THAT APPLICANT AND TELLING THEM, LET'S WORK ON THIS AND WORK THIS OUT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING, BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO I'M, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

SO IF YOU ALL CAN VOTE IN FAVOR OF THAT SO WE CAN GET THIS OFF THE LIST FOR NEXT, NEXT ON JUNE 11TH AND HAVE ONE LESS ITEM TO SPEND AN HOUR AND A HALF ON SECOND.

SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? THAT WAS MY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER.

OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ONE OPPOSED.