[Community Police Oversight Board on June 10, 2025.]
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GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS, DIRECTOR, POLICE MONITOR, MICHELLE ANDRE, AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
TODAY IS JUNE 10TH, 2025, AND IT IS 5:30 PM MY NAME IS JOHN MARK DAVIDSON, AND I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF DALLAS COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL CALL THE ROLE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR HAVE NOMINATED AND APPROVED EACH OF US TO SERVE AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS.
AS I CALL EACH DISTRICT, PLEASE INDICATE YOUR PRESENCE, AND WE WILL NOW BEGIN THIS MEETING WITH A ROLL CALL OF OUR BOARD MEETING DISTRICT ONE OZZIE SMITH.
DISTRICT FOUR, LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.
BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14 PRESENT.
WE HAVE CONFIRMED A QUORUM OF OUR MEETINGS, SO WE'RE READY TO PROCEED WITH TODAY'S AGENDA.
THE BOARD IS COMMITTED TO ENSURING EQUAL ACCESS TO ITS MEETINGS.
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YOU'RE ADVISED TO MAKE YOUR REQUEST AT LEAST 72 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING YOU WISH TO ATTEND.
WE WELCOME EVERYONE ATTENDING THIS MEETING.
JUST TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MISSION OF OUR BOARD AND WHAT WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO.
THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD, IS TO ENHANCE THE PUBLIC'S TRUST THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT AGAINST DALLAS POLICE, DEPARTMENTAL EMPLOYEES ARE CONDUCTED FAIRLY THOROUGHLY, ARE TRANSPARENT, AND ENSURE THE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE MEANS TO THE COMPLAINT PROCESS TO HELP ENSURE THIS ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT PROVIDES FUNCTIONAL SUPPORT AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO THE CPOB.
AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE A PRETTY FULL AGENDA TODAY AND, AND WE WANNA MAKE ROOM FOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, AT THE, IN TALKING, UH, WITH THE POLICE CHIEF, I KNOW HE HAS, UH, A, A, UH, ANY PRIOR ENGAGEMENT HE NEEDS TO HEAD TO HERE, UH, PRETTY SOON.
SO, UH, IF THE BOARD HAS NO OBJECTIONS, I'D LOVE TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN WITH WELCOMING THE POLICE CHIEF, UH, TO COME UP HERE AND, UH, BEGIN THE INTRODUCTION.
MOTION, NO MOTIONS NEEDED AS LONG AS THERE'S NO, UH, OPPOSITION.
SO AT THIS TIME, UH, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE AGENDA ITEM.
AGENDA ITEM FIVE, CHIEF DANIEL D CUOMO.
INTRODUCTION, UH, TO THE CPOB AND, UM, WANTED TO, UH, READ SOMETHING TO, UH, THAT WAS HANDED BEFORE THE CHIEF CUOMO INTRODUCED HIMSELF TO CPOB.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND BOARD MEMBERS THAT THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT REQUIRES CPOB TO GIVE THE PUBLIC ADVANCE NOTICE ON THE SUBJECTS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED.
AND SO, UH, THIS TODAY INTRODUCTION,
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UH, WHERE WE WILL BASICALLY BE, BEGIN INTRODUCING OURSELF TO CHIEF CUOMO AND, UH, WELCOMING HIM, UH, TO THE CITY, UH, OF DALLAS.UH, AND, UH, HOPE WE CAN KEEP OUR, OUR QUESTIONS UNDERSTAND UNDERSTANDABLE, UH, TO ASK HIM WHO HE IS.
AND, AND, UH, WE WILL LIMIT THOSE QUESTIONS IN, IN THAT SCOPE IF POSSIBLE.
UH, BUT ALSO WANNA WELCOME MR. ARTIS HERE, WHO'S, UH, A BIG DEAL IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
HE COULD WELCOME THAT INTRODUCTION.
AND, UH, AND THEN, UH, WE'LL BEGIN OUR TIME.
AND I'LL, AFTER A BRIEF INTRODUCTION, I'LL, I'LL COME BACK ON THE MICROPHONE.
I'M THE CHIEF OF PUBLIC SAFETY HERE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY MANAGER, KIMBERLY ADVISOR TOLBERT, UH, WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT, SHE ASKED ME TO COME AND INTRODUCE OUR CHIEF.
UM, CHIEF CUOMO IS A 33 YEAR LAW ENFORCEMENT VETERAN, UH, OVERSEEING MANY, MANY DIFFERENT ROLES.
HIS LEADERSHIP HAS FOCUSED ON INTELLIGENCE DRIVEN CRIME REDUCTION, INTER-AGENCY, CO COLLABORATION, AND OFFICER DEVELOPMENT.
HIS VISION FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT INCLUDES ENHANCING RECRUITMENT, IMPLEMENTING INNOVATIVE CRIME, FIGHTING TACTICS, AND STRENGTHENING PUBLIC TRUST TO ENSURE DALLAS REMAINS A SAFE AND FORWARD THINKING CITY.
WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, CHIEF CUOMO
WHAT, WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO? CHIEF, UH, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR TIME FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
UH, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, I WANNA WELCOME YOU TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UH, WE'RE HAPPY THAT YOU ARE HERE, UH, TO SERVE THIS CITY.
UH, WE TRUST, UH, IN THE CITY MANAGER AND, AND HER, SHE'S DONE EXCELLENT HIRES.
UH, AND SO, UH, WE TRUST THAT THIS IS ONE, UH, WHERE HER KNOWLEDGE EXPERTISE HAS BROUGHT YOU TO THIS CITY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, THE DIRECTOR AND I, I KNOW WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO CONNECT, UH, THERE AT YOUR OFFICE, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR THAT TIME.
AND, UH, AT THIS WE WOULD LOVE A CHANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD'S EXCITED TO GET TO KNOW YOU.
UH, THIS IS A TIME IN DALLAS WHERE A LOT'S GOING ON AND YOU'VE COME, UH, TO THIS CITY IN A TIME WHERE, UM, THERE, THERE IS SOME UPHEAVAL, UNREST, AND, UM, BUT WE, WE ALSO ARE CONFIDENT IN, IN YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THE POLICE BOARD, AND WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT YOUR VISION IS FOR THE CITY.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, I KNOW WE'VE SENT YOU SOME QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A BUSY WEEK, SO YOU MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO, TO LISTEN AND READ ALL THOSE, BUT I'D LOVE TO GIVE THE BOARD MEMBERS A CHANCE, UH, ONE BY ONE TO JUST, UH, UH, TALK TO YOU AND INTRODUCE THEMSELF AND, AND ASK YOU ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR BACKGROUND AND, UH, POTENTIALLY, UH, WHAT YOU ENVISION, UH, FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS HERE.
UM, AND OF COURSE, IF, IF, UH, THAT'S A QUESTION YOU CAN'T ANSWER RIGHT NOW, WE UNDERSTAND, BUT WE HOPE THAT, UH, THIS IS A RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU CAN COME BACK AND WE CAN BEGIN AND CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.
SO, UH, AT THIS TIME, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL GO, THERE'S 15 OF US.
I KNOW YOU HAVE, UH, TO HEAD OUT HERE PRETTY SOON, BUT WE WANT TO, UH, GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO, TO SHARE WHAT THEY CAN.
IF WE COULD, UM, HAVE, UH, EACH BOARD MEMBER, UH, MAYBE THREE TO FIVE MINUTES, UM, OF, OF TIME TO TALK TO THE CHAIR, UM, SORRY, THE POLICE CHIEF.
AND, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OF COURSE, YOU CAN, UH, YOU FOREGO YOUR TIME, UH, WE'LL GIVE IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.
BUT THAT GIVE EVERY EACH OF OF US A CHANCE TO GET TO KNOW, UH, THE CHIEF CUOMO AND WELCOME HIM, UH, TO THIS CITY.
SO WE'LL DO IT LIKE WE DID, UH, LAST MEETING, UH, WHERE WE'LL GIVE EVERY, UH, PLACE A, UH, THREE TO FIVE MINUTE SLOT.
AND IF, UH, WE'LL JUST KEEP TRACK AND WE'LL GO RANDOM.
SO, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN TODAY? UH, TALKING TO CHIEF CUOMO.
MR. CHAIR, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE AN OPENING STATEMENT FIRST? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE AN OPENING STATEMENT? UH, SURE.
WELL, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY DOES HAVE A LOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND, UH, I THINK, UH, MOST OF YOU PROBABLY SAW LAST NIGHT ON, UH, TELEVISION THAT THEY HAD A PROTEST.
AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SAY, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'LL SAY, I'M SAD TO SAY THAT THE OFFICERS ENDURED ROCKS BEING THROWN AT 'EM, BOTTLES BEING THROWN AT 'EM, AND FIREWORKS BEING SHOT AT 'EM DURING A PROTEST.
THAT WAS A VERY UNFORTUNATE THING.
BUT I AM HAPPY AND PROUD OF THE OFFICER'S RESTRAINT, AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE PERSON ARRESTED LAST NIGHT, EVEN THOUGH THEY ENDURED ROCKS, BOTTLES AND FIREWORKS.
SO I THINK THAT SHOWS THE, THE ABILITY OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ON WHAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF DOING AND THEIR STRENGTH THEY SHOWED.
AND, UH, IT WAS REALLY PHENOMENAL TO WATCH WHAT WAS GOING ON AND HOW THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLED THAT SITUATION LAST NIGHT.
UM, WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO LEAD THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A WAY THAT I, I FEEL THAT IT SHOULD BE LED.
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I HAVE A LOT OF MENTORS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE TOLD EVERYBODY FOR THE FIRST 90 DAYS, I'M GONNA LOOK, LISTEN, AND LEARN.AND, UH, AFTER LOOKING, LISTEN AND LEARNING, I'M HOPING THAT I CAN BRING A LITTLE BIT TO THE TABLE AND MAKE THE DEPARTMENT BETTER.
WANNA OPEN UP FOR THE BOARD AT THIS TIME FOR ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE? I HAVE ONE BOARD, NICE TO MEET YOU, CHIEF.
NICE TO MEET YOU, CHIEF, AND WELCOME TO THE CITY.
I, I KNOW THAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE GONNA PROBABLY ASK YOU SOME TOUGHER QUESTIONS, BUT MY CONCERN IS, IS REALLY SIMPLE.
I KNOW WITH OVERSIGHT, THERE TENDS TO BE, UH, DIVISION, BECAUSE OVERSIGHT ALWAYS CREATES TENSION.
UH, BUT CAN YOU LET US KNOW, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, TO CREATE A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU IN YOUR OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE OPEN DIALOGUE AND SO THAT THERE WON'T BE A FEAR THAT, UM, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH YOU, OR THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE YOU MUCH OFTEN AFTER THIS MEETING? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH OVERSIGHT, THERE IS A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY THAT TAKES PLACE.
AND WHILE, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE YOU'LL GET THE TOUGH QUESTIONS, BUT MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS, UH, US CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT AS A BOARD TO WHERE, UH, WE CAN KNOW THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET RESPONSES FROM YOU, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
UH, FOR ME, IT'S ALL ABOUT DOING WHAT'S RIGHT.
AND SO WHENEVER I MAKE A DECISION, IT'S GONNA BE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT DECISION WAS RIGHT, OR I BELIEVE THAT IT'S RIGHT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOK AT THE LAW IS NOT DISCRETIONARY.
WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW, AND WE HAVE TO DO WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
UM, WE WILL FOLLOW THE RULES AND THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GONNA PUSH DOWN TO.
AND THERE'S NO REASON FOR, FOR US TO NOT HAVE FRIENDLY, ENGAGING CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYONE BECAUSE I'M, I'M EASY AND I'M ALWAYS GONNA BE PRESENT, AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT ISSUES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES US BETTER.
SO, UM, I JUST NEED ALL OF YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA DO.
AND AS A DEPARTMENT, THAT'S WHAT WE TALK ABOUT, WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO BE BETTER.
AND I THINK IT WAS ON FULL DISPLAY LAST NIGHT ON WHAT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CAPABLE OF AND HOW THEY REPRESENTED AND HANDLED, UH, THE SITUATION.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I GOT CALLS FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES, UM, REALLY COMPLIMENTING WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT FROM THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT DURING THAT PROTEST.
ANY BOARD MEMBERS WANNA CONTINUE? MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME JUST, UM, BRIEFLY FOLLOW UP ON MR. JACKSON'S COMMENTS.
UM, IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? I THINK IT IS.
UH, CHIEF COMWELL, THANKS FOR COMING TODAY.
UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, FIRST OF ALL, IS EXTEND A, UM, UH, WELCOME TO YOU AND AN INVITATION TO COME AS OFTEN AS YOU CAN.
MAJOR GREER AND HIS FOLKS SHOW UP EVERY MEETING.
THAT MEANS A LOT, AT LEAST TO ME, BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, CARES ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I HOPE YOU WILL COME ON A REGULAR BASIS TO SUPPORT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU DIRECTLY ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, UM, WHAT WE WERE DOING WITH CHIEF GARCIA, AND I HOPE YOU WILL CONTINUE, IS TRYING TO BUILD, UH, A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS, UH, TO LET HIM KNOW, AS MR. JACKSON WAS SAYING, THAT THI THIS IS, UH, OVERSIGHT.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO GET ANYBODY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S MUCH THE SAME AS INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
AND WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN IS WHAT YOU CAN DO AND WILL DO TO, UM, UM, BUILD SUPPORT WITHIN THE RANKS.
UM, THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NECESSARY AND SHOULD BE SUPPORTED BY THE OFF THE POLICE OFFICERS.
HEY, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT I SAID THE FIRST STATEMENT.
WE'RE HERE TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
AND I'VE BEEN TELLING THEM THAT FOR NOW, SIX WEEKS.
OUR BIGGEST THING IS WE HAVE TO JUST GET IT RIGHT.
WE KNOW THE POLICIES, AND WE JUST NEED TO FOLLOW 'EM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE EMPATHY, BUT YOU HAVE TO TAKE YOUR EMOTIONS OUT OF A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT YOU'RE MAKING.
AND IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT'S RIGHT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING DOWN FOR FIVE WEEKS OR SIX WEEKS.
I DON'T KNOW, IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST ABOUT WHAT'S DOING WHAT'S RIGHT.
AND, UH, EVERY MEETING, LIKE, I'M NOT AFRAID OF THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
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WE SHOULD HAVE ONE, RIGHT? AND IT'S THERE FOR GOOD REASON.WE JUST HAVE TO RESPECT EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH OTHER'S TRYING TO DO AND TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S GONNA TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE IN DALLAS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING DOWN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
AND I'M GONNA CONCLUDE BY AGAIN, EXTENDING, UH, AN OPEN INVITATION TO COME ANYTIME, BUT HOPEFULLY YOU WILL COME REGULARLY.
AND I THINK THAT IN AND OF ITSELF WILL, WILL HELP US IN TERMS OF BUILDING CREDIBILITY WITH YOUR, YOUR OFFICERS.
MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MR. FRIEDMAN.
UH, BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14, UM, CHIEF KOMO, I, I I, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR LAST NIGHT.
UH, I KNOW THAT'S, THAT IS ALWAYS TOUGH FOR, UM, ANY PUBLIC SERVANT WHEN THEY'RE BEING, HAVING THINGS THROWN AT THEM.
UH, AND I DO WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR DPDS RESTRAINT LAST NIGHT.
I KNOW THERE WAS ONLY ONE PERSON ARRESTED.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WAS VERY, THAT WAS VERY GOOD AND PROFESSIONAL ON YOUR PART AND THE DEPARTMENT'S PART, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I WANNA MOVE ON TO, TO SORT OF THE BIG ISSUE, WHICH IS COLLABORATION WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES ON IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, UH, WITH RESPECT TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
UH, YOU SAID ON SATURDAY THAT AS FAR AS THE ROLE OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.
UM, AND I CERTAINLY BELIEVE YOU ON THAT.
UM, HOWEVER, MY CONCERN IS NOT WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
MY CONCERN IS WITH DHS AND ICE.
UM, AND, AND POTENTIALLY OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES.
MR. CHAIR, MR. FREEMAN, IF I MAY, THIS IS, WAS NOTICED AS AN INTRODUCTION FOR THE CHIEF GETTING INTO SPECIFIC POLICIES, FEDERAL, STATE, OR LOCAL IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT WAS NOTICED ON THE AGENDA.
THIS IS, THIS IS PART OF AN INTRODUCTION.
THIS IS, THIS IS INFORMATION WE NEED TO FIND OUT AS PART OF AN INTRODUCTION.
THAT IS CERTAINLY INFORMATION YOU CAN FIND OUT IF IT WERE PROPERLY NOTICED, AND YOU CAN PROPERLY NOTICE IT AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, UH, FOR YOU TO FINISH YOUR QUESTION, THOUGH.
AND, AND MAYBE IF THE CHIEF COULD ANSWER IT, UH, UNDER THAT UMBRELLA OF, OF INTRODUCTION TO UNDERSTAND HIS PHILOSOPHY ON, ON THE QUESTION.
THE INTRODUCTION HAS GOTTA BE GENERALIZED TOPICS.
WE CAN'T DELVE INTO SPECIFIC POLICY ISSUES.
THOSE SPECIFIC ISSUES WOULD'VE HAD, WOULD'VE BEEN REQUIRED TO BE NOTICED, TO GIVE, GIVE THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME WATCH THE MEETING AND SEE THE CHIEF'S RESPONSE TO THOSE SPECIFIC POLICY, UH, QUESTIONS.
I, I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.
UM, SO HOW DO WE SETTLE IT? DO WE NEED TO GO BEFORE A JUDGE? WHAT, UH, I WOULD DIRECT YOU TO DALLAS CITY CODE CHAPTER OR SECTION EIGHT DASH 28, WHICH SAYS THAT WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY OPINES ON A LEGAL ISSUE, THE BORDER COMMISSION SHALL, UM, LISTEN TO IT UNLESS A COURT OF COMPETENT JURISDICTION SAYS OTHERWISE.
POINT OF ORDER CHAIR, UH, YES.
THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S TIME DOES NOT COUNT AGAINST MR. FRIEDMAN.
IS THAT RIGHT? NO, NO, IT DOES NOT COUNT.
UH, MR. CHAIR, I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
WAIT, YOU SAID IN OUR LAST MEETING, MR. POINT OF ORDER? POINT OF ORDER.
UH, THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO DO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ONE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE, THAT WE VOTE ON HAVING ANOTHER MEETING WITHIN THE NEXT 72 HOURS SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS ADDRESSED.
UM, BUT IF NOT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, UH, BY ADDRESSING THE CHIEF TO MAYBE GENERALLY ASK HIM IF HE COULD RESPOND TO THE LETTER THAT WE SENT HIM YESTERDAY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS POSSIBLE OR NOT.
THAT WAS NOT NOTICED ON THE AGENDA.
I KNOW THE LETTER WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THIS BOARD VOTED ON ON FRIDAY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CHIEF WOULD RESPOND AND HE CAN RESPOND IN WRITING TO YOU ALL AS THE LETTER INDICATED.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT TOPICS HE CAN TALK ABOUT TONIGHT? SURE.
SPECIFICALLY, IT IS POSTED ON THE AGENDA, THE INTRODUCTION OF, UH, THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT INTRODUCTORY BROAD UMBRELLA.
WHAT DOES THAT CONSIST OF? DO YOU KNOW GENERAL STUFF THAT YOU WOULD DO IN AN INTRODUCTION? SUCH AS HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A COP? WHERE DID YOU COME FROM? THOSE KINDS OF MATTERS.
WE, WE, THIS ISN'T HIS BIOGRAPHY.
WE HAVE THAT, THAT THAT IS WHAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS WHAT WAS POSTED ON THE AGENDA.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.
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WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, A MORE SPECIFIC POLICY, IT WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE BEEN OUTLINED IN THE AGENDA.SO, BUT SPECIFIC, SO WHAT CAN WE ASK HIM ABOUT SPECIFICALLY HIS BIOGRAPHY? GENERALIZED INTRODUCTORY MATTERS? THAT'S NOT SPECIFIC.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
IT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO ASK HIS GENERAL PHILOSOPHY ON A, ON THE TOPIC IMMIGRATION, ON, ON WHAT HE WOULD GENERALLY SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS HIS VISION FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? WOULD THAT BE OKAY? I, THE, THE VISION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? SURE.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO SAY GENERALLY, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IMMIGRATION AND THOSE, LIKE THAT SPECIFIC POLICY? I THINK THAT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE, BUT GENERALLY, UM, WHAT IS, WHAT IS YOUR F YOU KNOW, OUTLINE FOR THE DEPARTMENT, I THINK WOULD BE FINE.
BUT ONCE YOU START GETTING INTO SPECIFIC POLICIES, THAT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT WAS NOTICED.
MR. FREEBIE, CAN YOU REPHRASE YOUR QUESTIONS TO, UH, VIA GENERAL OVERVIEW OF, UH, HIS PHILOSOPHY? WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I, I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN A GENERAL OVERVIEW.
HE'S SAID IT IN THE PRESS A NUMBER OF TIMES.
UM, WHAT I WAS HOPING TO DO TONIGHT WAS SORT OF GET INTO IT WITH THE CHIEF AND, AND HEAR SOME ELABORATION ON HIS PART ABOUT HIS APPROACH AND HIS PHILOSOPHY.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND I THINK IT'S VITAL TO OUR UNDERSTANDING.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AS AN INTRODUCTION TO NOT JUST THIS BOARD, BUT TO THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS.
AND, UM, IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS, THEN I'M NOT SURE I SEE MUCH VALUE IN THIS.
BECAUSE WE'VE ALL READ HIS BIO.
WE ALL THINK HE'S A, A, WE ALL THINK HE'S GONNA BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE CITY.
UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE THERE'S MUCH VALUE UNLESS WE CAN ASK HIM SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, MR. FREEMAN, YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS IF IT WERE IN A PROPERLY POSTED NOTICE.
YOU MENTIONED DOING A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
FIVE OF YOU ALL CAN SIGN A MEMORANDUM, DIRECTING THE CHAIR TO DO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WHERE THE AGENDA CAN BE MUCH MORE, UM, SPECIFIC AS TO THE POLICIES THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED.
BUT THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE THIS EVENING.
SO, ATTORNEY, THIS IS OF COURSE THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THIS.
UM, HOW CAN WE RESOLVE THIS? 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WE WANNA ASK THE, UH, THE CHIEF AND, UH, SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, WE WOULD LOVE TO PROCEED IF POSSIBLE, BUT HOW, WHAT'S THE WAY WE CAN RESOLVE THIS? I, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AHEAD OF TIME.
IF THEY ARE BROAD GENERAL INTRODUCTORY MATTERS, THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ASKED AND ANSWERED.
IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC POLICY QUESTIONS, THOSE CANNOT BE ANSWERED TODAY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PERHAPS AND TALK ABOUT THIS OBSERVATION? OKAY.
UH, I THINK, UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS LET'S SHIELD YOUR TIME.
I THINK, UH, MS. GREENER SMITH, YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, MR. GREENER ALLEN.
AND, UH, WHILE YOU'RE ASKING ME QUESTIONS, UH, I'LL TALK TO THE DIRECTOR ABOUT SOME OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
WELCOME TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND I AM NOT INTENDING TO RUN AFOUL OF THE CITY ATTORNEY OR ANY OTHER BOUNCER WHO WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ASKING THE PROPER QUESTIONS.
BUT I DID WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR CITY AND WELCOME YOU TO IT.
UM, THE CITY OF DALLAS IS THE SECOND LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WE ARE ALSO ONE OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE OF EVERY RACE, CREED, AND COLOR HERE IN DALLAS.
WE ARE A VIBRANT AND MULTICULTURAL CITY, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIFFERING IMMIGRATION STATUSES HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
I WANTED TO ASK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR BIOGRAPHY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE WORKED WITH SEVERAL FEDERAL AGENCIES, ISN'T THAT RIGHT? I'VE WORKED WITH ONE.
I WORKED FOR THE DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION FOR, UH, 28 PLUS YEARS.
I'VE BEEN ASSIGNED, STARTED OFF MY CAREER IN OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA.
THEN I WENT TO HOUSTON FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS.
THEN I WENT TO TUCSON, ARIZONA FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.
THEN I WENT TO GULFPORT, MISSISSIPPI FOR THREE YEARS.
THEN I WENT TO WASHINGTON, DC FOR A YEAR.
THEN I WENT TO JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI FOR TWO YEARS.
I WENT TO LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA FOR TWO YEARS, WENT TO SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA FOR A YEAR, AND THEN I ENDED MY CAREER FOUR PLUS YEARS IN HOUSTON, TEXAS.
SO BESIDES HOUSTON, YOUR MOST PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES
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IN LOS ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO, RIGHT? CORRECT.WITH THE DEA THERE IN LOS ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO.
AND OF COURSE, LOS ANGELES AND SAN FRANCISCO ARE SIMILARLY BIG DIVERSE CITIES, AND THEY ARE HAVING KIND OF A ROUGH GO OF IT WITH THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH NOT ONLY, UH, FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT OTHERS IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WHAT DID YOU TAKE FROM YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THOSE, WITH THE DEA AND THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT THE DEA WORKS FOR AND HOW THOSE AGENCIES WORK WITH THE LOCAL POLICE THAT YOU CAN APPLY HERE IN DALLAS? WHAT, HOW DID I TAKE, WHAT DID YOU TAKE FROM THAT EXPERIENCE THAT YOU CAN APPLY HERE IN DALLAS? WELL, LOOK, THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN ALL DIFFERENT AGENCIES, FEDERAL, FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL AGENCIES, YOU WANNA TAKE THE GOOD FROM ALL, JUST LIKE THE INVESTIGATION THAT, UM, CONCLUDED THE DAY, AND WE HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE ON, YOU HAD FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL AGENCIES WORKING TOGETHER WHERE OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED FOR, UH, CHILD PORNOGRAPHY.
AND ARE, ARE THERE EVER PROBLEMS IN THOSE COOPERATIONS, I'M SORRY.
YOU, ARE THERE EVER ME STOP ANSWERING? OR DO THOSE COOPERATIONS EVER RUN INTO PROBLEMS? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? DO THEY RUN INTO PROBLEMS? DO WE DISAGREE? SOMETIMES? IS THAT IS WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY PROBLEMS? SURE.
WELL, I MEAN, I, I'M JUST WONDERING MORE ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THAT COLLABORATION THAT MIGHT BE APPLIED HERE.
WE JUST HAD A PHENOMENAL COLLABORATION THAT I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT WITH THE FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL PARTNERS WHERE WE ARRESTED ALL THESE CHILD PORNOGRAPHIES.
CAME OUT RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING IT CAME OUT.
WHAT THE, UM, THERE WAS A, A NEWS ALERT ABOUT ARRESTING, I THINK 200 FOLKS WITH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MOST YES.
UM, SO YOU SAID IN YOUR INTRODUCTION THAT THE LAW IS NOT DISCRETIONARY.
I I WANNA CLARIFY THAT WITH YOU.
YOU DON'T MEAN THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DON'T HAVE DISCRETION, RIGHT? NO.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WHATEVER THE LAW IS, IS WHAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW.
AND MAKING SURE THAT THE LAW IS FOLLOWED EVEN BY YOUR PARTNERS IS PART OF THAT, RIGHT? YES.
IF SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING ILLEGALLY, AND AND I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE THAT ANYTIME THAT WE COLLABORATE, THAT WE WORK TOGETHER, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE LEGALLY BY THE LAW.
AND IF PARTNERS, EITHER STATE OR FEDERAL ARE BREAKING THE LAW, WHAT CAN DPD DO TO STEP IN AND PROTECT THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULDN'T BE COLLABORATING WITH 'EM IF THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW.
WE WOULD NOT BE COLLABORATING WITH THEM IF THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW.
IF WE ARE ON AN INVESTIGATION AND WE SEE SOMEONE BREAKING THE LAW, IT'S OUR DUTY RIGHT? TO LET SOMEONE KNOW THAT THE LAW'S BEING BROKEN.
I'M THRILLED TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR OFFERING THAT, UM, AT, AT THIS MEETING.
AND AS PART OF OUR FIRST INTRODUCTION, UM, I'M SURE THERE WILL BE OTHER CHANCES TO ASK YOU MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS, BUT I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT DPD WILL BE NOT COLLABORATING WITH AGENCIES THAT ARE BREAKING THE LAW AND WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPORTING ANY LAWLESSNESS BY OUR PARTNERS.
HEY, AND CHIEF, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS, BUT OBVIOUSLY TODAY WE WILL BE UNABLE TO ASK THOSE TO YOU TODAY.
UM, DUE TO THE INTERPRETATION, UH, WE WANNA RESPECT, UH, WHAT THE CITY SAYS, AND WE WANNA RESPECT, UH, THE LAW.
AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO, UH, TODAY IS, UH, WE WILL, UH, OZZY OUR VICE CHAIR.
HE HAS, UH, SOME THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE BOARD, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS A BOARD.
AND, AND HE'S GOING TO JUST SHARE WHAT THOSE ARE.
AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL JUST COORDINATE ANOTHER TIME, UH, TO GET WITH YOU.
I KNOW WE HAVE A LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO YOU AS WELL.
AND, AND, UH, WE WILL, UM, JUST PLAN ANOTHER TIME WHERE WE CAN COME AND, AND, UH, MAYBE ASK MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
BUT ALL THAT SAID, UH, YOUR PRESENCE HERE IS IMPORTANT AND APPRECIATED.
AND, UH, UH, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP, UH, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, COLLABORATIVE, UH, RELATIONSHIP AND, UH, YOUR LEADERSHIP AND, AND, UH, YOUR, UH, PRESENCE HERE AND COLLABORATION WITH US WILL BE, UH, UH, IMPORTANT FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE.
AND YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY TODAY, IT DIDN'T PAN OUT THAT WAY.
WE WANTED, UH, TO, TO, TO GO, BUT,
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UM, WE WILL FIND ANOTHER TIME, UH, TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.BUT I'M GONNA GIVE THE, THE FLORIDA VICE CHAIR AT THIS TIME, KIND OF SHARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT LIST, WHAT ARE SOME ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US AS A BOARD, AND THEN WE'LL, UH, WE'LL FIND A TIME TO CONNECT AGAIN.
UH, OZZIE SMITH, DISTRICT ONE.
UM, CHIEF HO, THANK YOU AGAIN.
THIS IS NOT THE MEETING THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED AS A BOARD.
UM, WE DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW YOU IN THIS INTER INTRODUCTORY, UM, SESSION, AND HOPEFULLY TO FOLLOW UP WITH ADDITIONAL.
UM, FOR ME, SINCE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS PER, UH, COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE, UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME OUT TO THIS MEETING TO HEAR ABOUT SPECIFIC TOPICS AFFECTING CITIZENS AND DPD AND HOW THEY, YOU KNOW, RESPOND OR ACT.
UM, SO JUST SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS ATTENDING AND THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THIS IN OUR MEETING.
THERE ARE SEVERAL TOPICS THAT WE SENT A LETTER, UH, TO YOUR OFFICE.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO US WITHIN 24 48 HOURS, UH, OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT OUR OFFICE, UH, THAT THE BOARD SENT.
UM, I WOULD JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT WERE IN THOSE QUESTIONS.
UM, FIRST, WE WERE WANTING TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, UH, WITH THE IED COMPLAINT PROCESS, UM, AND HOW THAT'S GOING ALONG.
UH, WE ALSO WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE, UH, INTERACTION WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT AND HAVING UNFETTERED ACCESS TO DATA.
OTHER THINGS WERE REGARDING EQUITABLE ENFORCEMENT AND RACIAL DISPARITIES, WHICH INCLUDES IMMIGRATION POLICY AND UNDERSTANDING DPDS POSITION.
UM, UNDERSTANDING HOW THE DEPARTMENT WILL EVALUATE, UH, STRATEGICALLY, UM, CURRENT MISDEMEANOR, MISDEMEANOR, UH, ENFORCEMENT PRACTICES.
UM, AND WHAT STEPS COULD BE TAKEN TO REALLOCATE RESOURCES FROM LOW LEVEL NONVIOLENT OFFENSES.
UM, ALSO REGARDING, UM, SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE STATED, AND I THINK YOU'VE CLARIFIED, UH, WE HAD SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, MOVING ON TO OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE.
UH, I WANTED TO JUST KIND OF DELVE INTO RESPONSE TIMES FOR PRIORITY ONE.
UH, PRIORITY TWO, URGENT CALLS.
UH, THOSE HAVE BEEN AVERAGING ANYWHERE FROM 11 TO 12 MINUTES, CITYWIDE UP TO 90 MINUTES, UH, FOR PRIORITY TWO.
UM, DESPITE REPORTS OF SEVEN PER 7% DECREASE IN 9 9 1 1 CALLS AND A REDUCTION IN VIOLENT CRIME COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS RESPONSE TIMES HAVE, UH, PARADOXICALLY WORSENED.
SO WE'D LIKE TO JUST GET SOME INPUT ON THAT.
UM, OTHER THINGS THAT WE LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT WAS THAT THE VOTER APPROVED HERO AMENDMENT MANDATES DPD TO EMPLOY A MINIMUM OF 4,000 OFFICERS BY MAY 30TH.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS THAT, UM, THAT THOSE RECRUITMENT GOALS HAVE BEEN REDUCED, SO WE'D LIKE TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.
UM, OTHER THINGS LIKE TECHNOLOGY SURVEILLANCE AND SILVER LIBERTIES.
UH, DPD CURRENTLY OPERATES A FLEET OF 139 DRONES, UH, DEPLOYED NEARLY 8,000 TIMES.
SO WE'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE POLICIES AND STRICT ADHERENCE TO PRIVACY AND SAFEGUARDS FOR OUR CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF OUR CITY.
UM, DPD PLANS TO INTEGRATE, UH, DRONES, UH, WITH ADVANCED SENSORS AND PURSUE FAA APPROVALS.
SO WE, UH, FOR THE BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT, WE'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THAT.
UM, AGAIN, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE IMMIGRATION.
UH, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GET MANY OF THE BOARD, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, UM, COMMENTS HERE.
BUT BASICALLY, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT TODAY.
UH, WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOUR OFFICE WOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO ABOUT SIX PAGES OF QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAD DRAFTED UP AND SENT OVER ALONG WITH A LETTER I THINK THAT WE SENT LAST WEEK.
UM, ALSO TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION POLICY.
AND WITH THAT, I YIELD MY TIME.
AND, AND ONE MORE THING, UH, CHIEF BEFORE WE LET YOU GO, UH, IS, I KNOW JUST IN LIGHT OF, UM, WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE PROTESTS, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING A, A PUBLIC, UH, SAFETY ISSUE.
UM, I'D LOVE TO KIND OF HEAR YOUR GENERAL THOUGHTS ON, UM, WHAT YOU'RE, UH, SHARING WITH YOUR POLICE OFFICERS IN RESPONSE TO THE PROTESTS.
UM, AND, UH, JUST WE'RE HOPING AND PRAYING THAT THAT'S DOESN'T ESCALATE, UH, HERE IN THIS CITY.
BUT I'D LOVE TO GET YOUR VISION AND, AND WHAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING TO YOUR POLICE OFFICERS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN RESPOND, UM, TO THESE PROTESTS AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF IT COULD, UH, ESCALATE AND WHAT THE POLICE RESPONSE WOULD BE.
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WELL, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I WAS EXTREMELY PROUD OF THE WAY THAT THEY HANDLED THEMSELVES YESTERDAY.I THINK IF YOU LOOKED AT TELEVISION, I FEEL LIKE THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDLED THEMSELVES VERY ACCORDINGLY IN A GOOD MANNER THAT MADE THE CITY LOOK EXTREMELY GOOD COMPARED TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN OTHER CITIES.
UM, I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, WE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IN THE CITY IS SAFE.
AND AS I SAID EARLIER TODAY, ALSO IN THE INTERVIEW, EVEN IF YOU'RE PROTESTING, WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT YOU AS LONG AS YOU DO IT BY THE LAWS AND THE RULES OF THE CITY THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS PUT FORTH THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND THAT'LL CONCLUDE OUR TIME WITH YOU TODAY.
UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE HERE.
WE KNOW YOU HAVE TO HEAD TO ANOTHER MEETING, BUT ANY FINAL WORDS BEFORE WE, WE, UH, CONCLUDE THIS AGENDA ITEM TODAY TO THE BOARD? LOOK, THE, THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GONNA BE TO KEEP EVERYONE IN DALLAS SAFE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT PLANS, UH, THAT'S GOING TO DO OUR VERY BEST TO KEEP THIS A VERY SAFE CITY.
UH, ONE OF THE OPERATIONS WE STARTED EARLIER, I'M SURE YOU HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
WE ARRESTED 98 INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD FELONY WARRANTS THAT WERE WALKING AROUND THE STREETS OF DALLAS EVERY DAY.
THOSE 98 INDIVIDUALS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR OVER 700 PRIOR ARRESTS.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON TO TRY TO KEEP THIS CITY SAFE.
THAT WAY EVERYONE CAN SIT ON A PORCH OR WALK ON THE STREETS OR GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD STORE AND BE SAFE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF, MR. ARTIS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENCE HERE AS WELL.
AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT TIME WE CAN HAVE YOU HERE.
AND, UH, WE'LL DO THE, THE RIGHT THING ON OUR PART AS WELL TO BE PREPARED TO HAVE YOU HERE AND, UH, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND, UH, CHIEF TWO, YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY AS LONG AS YOU WANT TO THE MEETING.
I KNOW WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
NO, NO NEED TO LEAVE, BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY 'CAUSE WE ARE MOVING AT THIS TIME.
UH, DURING THE OPEN MICROPHONE PERIOD, AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH BOARD MEETING, THE FIVE PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
PUBLIC COMMENT MUST RELATE TO THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION AND DOESN'T INCLUDE THE RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE.
BUT THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK MUST REGISTER BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.
AND, UM, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES, UH, TO SPEAK AND SHARE, UM, THEIR THOUGHTS.
AND AGAIN, IN ANY, UH, TIME THAT WE COMMUNICATE AS A, AS A PUBLIC COMMENT OR AS A BOARD, WE ASK FOR RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE.
WE ASK FOR, FOR KINDNESS AND, UM, PRODUCTIVE COMMENTS.
AND SO AT THIS TIME, WOULD LIKE TO INVITE DOLORES PHILLIPS.
OH, YES, MS. PHILLIPS, YOU'RE WELCOME, UH, TO COME AND, UH, WHEN YOU BEGIN SPEAKING, THE TIMER WILL BEGIN.
AND, UH, YOUR THREE MINUTES IS HERE.
WELCOME TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND, UH, YOUR, YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS.
K BUILDING K, APARTMENT 2, 4 7 GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS 7 5 0 5 0.
YOU ALSO HAVE A COPY OF THE PREMEDITATED FABRICATED POLICE REPORT.
0 2 7 3 2 9 1 DASH A CORPORAL CO CAME TO THIS PREARRANGED MEETING WITH HIS OWN POLICE REPORT NUMBER WRITTEN IN HIS PERSONAL NOTEPAD, NOT I'M GONNA SPEAK HUMBLY, SLOWLY AND DISTINCTLY SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND ME.
YOU'RE ALL OPERATING UNDER COLOR OF LAW AND I WILL NOT BE BULLIED.
IN 2009, YOU ERASED TWO CALLS, YOU ERASED A EIGHT 17, IT WAS A 8:17 AM PM 8 33 AND 8:55 PM YOU ERASED TWO OF THOSE CALLS AND SAID ONLY ONE WAS MADE.
FAST FORWARD 2 20 11, LEE POLK FOUND ALL THE CALLS THAT YOU SAID WERE NOT MADE.
NOW IT'S A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP.
SO YOUR COMMITTEE OVERSIGHT BOARD CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU WILL RESOLVE WHEN YOU'RE UNLAWFULLY VIOLATING SOMEONE.
AND, AND NOT, NOT JUST THAT IT'S PREMEDITATED.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SPRINT BILL, YOU SEE THE CALLS THAT YOU SAID WERE NOT MADE, WERE MADE YOUR INTERNAL DOCUMENTS, YOUR
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MASTER VIEW REPORTS, YOUR INCIDENT DETAIL REPORTS SAY THAT THOSE CALLS WERE MADE FAST FORWARD FROM 2011 TO 2013, OCTOBER 25TH, 2013, THAT THAT MEETING WAS PREARRANGED BY MAYOR ROLLINS.I DROVE THERE FROM UNT DALLAS WITH A 3.0.
YOU INTERCEPTED COURT DOCUMENTS IN THE PROCESS, YOU CONTINUE TO FABRICATE DOCUMENTS.
YOU FABRICATED PHARMACEUTICAL RECORDS FROM WALGREENS STATING THAT I WAS TAKEN BIPOLAR MEDICINE FROM 2009 TO 2013.
MARY LOU VALLEE THORN SAID THAT IT WAS, UH, WALGREENS PHARMACEUTICAL RECORDS THAT I SAW FOR MYSELF.
I'M NOT GONNA BE BULLIED BY YOU.
YOUR OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE PICKS AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU WILL RESOLVE OR NOT.
AND JUST AS THE CHIEF SAID, YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THE LAW.
YOU SHOULD NOT USE YOUR BOARD TO INTERCEPT, UH, EXHIBITS EVIDENCE AND DOCUMENTS THAT INCRIMINATE YOU.
ONCE YOU GET IT, THEN YOU THROW THE PEOPLE UNDER THE BUS AND SAY, NOW WHAT YOU GOING TO DO? SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SHARE WITH YOU, YOU USE THAT FABRICATED POLICE REPORT AGAINST MY DAD.
YOUR LINKS, CONNECTIONS AND NETWORKS HAD HIM DRIVEN BACK TO CARSON COUNTY AS AN INCAPACITATED ELDER.
BECAUSE YOU ARE MAD BECAUSE I'M SPEAKING OF YOUR INJUSTICES.
YOU ARE GUILTY OF NEGLIGENCE AGAINST THE INCAPACITATED ELDER.
YOU CAUSED HIS DEMISE BEFORE HIS TIME.
USE YOUR RETALIATORY SETUPS TO STRONG ARM MY MOM'S AND MY DAD'S ESTATE.
THEIR ESTATE IS DF DASH NINE TWO.
APPRECIATE ONE EIGHT FIVE TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY FIFTH COURT.
YOU ERASED A LOT OF THOSE DOCUMENTS.
HEY, MS. PHILLIPS, I'M REALLY SORRY.
WHAT I'M TRYING TO SHOW WITH YOU, YOU DID A GREAT JOB EVERY TIME AND DUE RESPECT, YOU'RE STEADY COVERING UP.
YOU ARE OPERATING UNDER COLOR OF LAW.
THIS DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PROPOSITIONS.
I WANT SPECIAL DAMAGES, PUNITIVE DAMAGES.
MS. PHILLIPS, ANYTHING ELSE? THE COURT OF LAW, MS. PHILLIPS, THANK YOU.
I'VE ALREADY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR NEXT MONTH.
YOU'RE VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE TIME, USUALLY, UH, TODAY.
SO PLEASE, NEXT TIME WE, WE ASK YOU, WE WANT YOU TO COME.
MY DAD WAS, MY DAD WAS CRYING TO ME ASKING, THANK YOU MS. PHILLIPS NOT TO LEAVE HIM.
I WANT THE WORLD TO KNOW WORLDWIDE, GLOBALLY, UNIVERSALLY WHAT YOU DO BEHIND THE SCENES.
THANK YOU, MS. PHILLIPS, FOR YOUR PRESENCE.
I WANT MY DAD TO BE LIKE, YOUR DAD WAS TREATED, BUT HE WAS NOT.
SO WHY ARE WE ABLE TO ASK MS. PHILLIPS QUESTIONS? NO, NOT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
CAN YOU TELL US WHERE ARE YOU AT? OBJECT.
YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
YOU CAN REPLY WITH SUCCINCT, FACTUAL STATEMENTS IS WHAT THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT SAYS.
BUT YOU CANNOT ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSION THAT WAS NOT PROPERLY NOTICED.
AGAIN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN'T ASK MS. PHILLIPS WHAT IT IS HER EXPECTATION OF US AS A BOARD WHEN SHE COMES HERE EVERY MONTH.
AND WE HAVE NEVER ASKED HER AT ALL, LIKE WHAT IT IS SHE FEELS WE SHOULD DO FOR HER AS A BOARD.
BECAUSE CLEARLY THERE'S SOME MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND ABILITY TO DO.
SHE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH THE OFFICE TO FILE A COMPLAINT, TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL.
OR SOMEONE CAN REQUEST AT THE OFFICE, ADD SOME LANGUAGE ON THE AGENDA SO THAT YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS OF MS. PHILLIPS NEXT MONTH.
SHE DID, UM, IN YEARS PAST, AND WE DID QUESTION HER, BUT IT HAS PROGRESSED.
AT THIS TIME, I WANNA INVITE JUSTICE FOR ERICA DEANNA MUNOZ, UH, FORWARD.
MS. MUNOZ, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW THE DRILL, UH, WHEN YOU BEGIN SPEAKING, UH, THE TIMER WILL BEGIN.
AND, UH, IF POSSIBLE, WHENEVER THE THREE MINUTES IS UP, PLEASE FINISH YOUR STATEMENT, FINISH YOUR, FINISH YOUR SENTENCE.
UH, BUT BE RESPECTFUL OF THE TIME.
UH, WE HAVE TODAY, BUT WHEN YOU BEGIN, THE TIMER WILL START.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, UM, CHIEF DAVID CUOMO AND MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS DIANA MUNOZ, ALSO KNOWN AS JUSTICE FOR ERICA.
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RESIDENT.I HAVE LIVED IN DALLAS ALL MY LIFE.
I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF MY DAUGHTER, EDIKA, WHO WAS ALL ALWAYS THE LIFE OF THE PARTY.
SHE WAS SILLY, JOYFUL, AND KIND.
MY DAUGHTER WAS JUST STARTING TO LIVE HER LIFE WHEN IT WAS VIOLENTLY TAKEN FROM HER.
ON THANKSGIVING DAY 2014, IT HAS BEEN 10 YEARS.
AND EVERY DAY I THINK OF MY DAUGHTER, ERICA.
TO THIS DAY, I HAVE NO ANSWERS.
I HAVE NOTHING BUT THE MEMORY OF MY CHILD AND THE MEMORY OF HOW HER LIFE WAS TAKEN.
THE LAST UPDATE I RECEIVED ON MY DAUGHTER'S CASE WAS VIA TWITTER, APRIL THE 30TH, 2025.
THE DETECTIVE RESPONDS RESPONSIBLE FOR FINDING MY DAUGHTER'S MURDERS.
TWEETED PUBLICLY THAT MY DAUGHTER'S MURDER INVESTIGATION HAD GONE COLD.
THIS WAS VERY UNPROFESSIONAL ON HIS PART.
ALSO, THE INDIVIDUAL RUNNING THE INSTAGRAM FOR DPD INITIALLY POSTED CRITICAL MISSING.
THIS WAS SHOCKING NEWS AND UNBELIEVABLE.
THIS IS HOW I FOUND OUT THAT MY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD GIVEN UP ON BRINGING MY DAUGHTER JUSTICE.
I NEED HELP BRINGING MY DAUGHTER THE JUSTICE THAT SHE DESERVES.
I HAVE WAITED AND WAITED FOR A RESPONSE FROM DETECTIVE ERIC BARNES AND SERGEANT HUNTER AND NOTHING.
I STILL DON'T KNOW WHO IS INVESTIGATING MY DAUGHTER'S CASE.
NOW, THE LAST MEETING I HAD WITH DETECTIVE ERIC BARNES WAS ON FEBRUARY THE FOURTH, 2021, AND LAST TEXT ON NOVEMBER 24TH THAT HE WOULD CALL ME, AND HE NEVER DID.
PRIOR TO THAT DETECTIVE ERIC BARNES, HE STILL HAD THREE SUSPECTS IN CUSTODY.
I PRAY THAT YOUR ARRIVAL IN DALLAS AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE, WILL BRING MY FAMILY AND SOME PEACE.
IT IS YOUR, IT IS IN YOUR HANDS TO DETERMINE A RESPONSE TO THE FORMAL COMPLAINT I HAVE FILED ON MAY THE 28TH, 2025, TO PREVENT OTHER FAMILIES FROM FINDING OUT SENSITIVE AND HURTFUL INFORMATION VIA SOCIAL MEDIA.
FROM A DETECTIVE IN THE WAY THAT I DID, IT IS IN YOUR HANDS TO RECEIVE THE INVESTIGATION INTO MY DAUGHTER'S HOMICIDE.
IT IS IN YOUR HANDS TO PUT THE PEOPLE THAT BEAT AND SHOT MY DAUGHTER'S EXECUTION STYLE BEHIND BARS.
CHIEF DAVID CUOMO, THE DECISION YOU MAKE IN OUR CITY CAN MAKE US SAFER.
FINDING THE DAUGHTER MY DAUGHTER'S MURDERS AND ADVOCATING FOR RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP CAN BRING OUR CITY, OUR COMMUNITIES, AND MYSELF, COMFORT.
WHOEVER MURDERED MY LITTLE GIRL, THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK HER FROM ME ARE STILL ENJOYING THE FREEDOM THAT BELONG TO MY ERICA AND HER LAST MOMENTS.
MY DAUGHTER FOUGHT FOR HER LIFE.
AND UNTIL MY LAST MOMENTS, I WILL FIGHT FOR HER JUSTICE.
I KNOW THAT I'M NOT ALONE FEELING THIS PAIN.
MANY OTHER MOTHERS HERE IN MY COMMUNITY AND CITY HAVE LOST THEIR CHILDREN DUE TO GUN VIOLENCE.
I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS ROOM WHO HAVE, HAS HAD TO BURY LOVED ONES BECAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE.
125 PEOPLE ON AVERAGE DIE FROM GUN VIOLENCE IN OUR COUNTRY EVERY DAY.
ALSO, THE LAST MASS SHOOTING HERE IN DALLAS WAS SOUTH OF MALCOLM X AND SEVEN PEOPLE BEING SHOT.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME HONOR MY DAUGHTER'S LIFE AND BRING HER KILLER TO JUSTICE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING YOUR RESPONSE TO MY COMPLAINT JUSTICE FOR IKA, THE MARIM.
AND THANK YOU, UH, FOR SHARING ERICA'S STORY WITH US.
I KNOW, UH, FROM THE OFFICE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH YOU.
AND, UH, WE AS A BOARD APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE AGAIN TODAY.
YES, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ONCE AGAIN.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE SCOTT MCWILLIAMS. THANK YOU, SCOTT, FOR BEING HERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW THE DRILL, UH, WHEN YOU BEGIN, THE TIMER WILL BE THERE IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SCREENS.
AND, UH, WE JUST HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU RESPECT THAT.
AND WHENEVER THE THREE MINUTES, UH, APPROACHES AND IS EXPIRED, FINISH YOUR, OF COURSE, YOUR THOUGHT, YOUR SENTENCE.
BUT WE'RE SO HAPPY YOU'RE HERE AND YOUR TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU BEGIN YOUR STATEMENT.
UM, I'M SCOTT MC WILLIAMS. I LIVE IN EXPO PARK AND HAVE AN OFFICE IN DEEP EL, UH, WHERE I, WHERE I WORK, UH, NEAR BAYLOR MEDICAL CENTER.
THERE'S SO MANY GREAT, UH, VALUES, UH, THAT ARE HERE, UH, IN DALLAS THAT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE.
BUT THE ONE THAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT TODAY, WHICH I RECEIVE NOTICE, IS ABOUT OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, UM, AND HOW VALUABLE THEY ARE AND HOW IT'S A JEWEL TO BE PROTECTED.
AND A JEWEL THAT I HOPE THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND WE, WE CAN REALLY PUT OUR ARMS AROUND OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR JOURNEY TO CITIZENSHIP IS INVALUABLE IN OUR CITY, IN MY OPINION.
THE CULTURAL CONTRIBUTIONS, THE VALUES, THE FAMILY, UH, UH, OUTLOOK THAT THEY BRING, UM, THAT, UH, THE FOOD, THE, THE, THE CONNECTIONS JUST ENRICHES US IN A, IN A HUGELY SIGNIFICANT WAY.
AND TO BE CLEAR, THEY'RE SIGNIFICANT.
43% OF, UH, DALLAS HOUSEHOLDS SPEAK A LANGUAGE OTHER THAN ENGLISH IN THAT HOUSEHOLD.
SO THIS ISN'T SOME SMALL UNREPRESENTED PART.
AND AS WE HEARD A MONTH AGO, UH, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, IMMIGRANT
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COMMUNITIES COMMIT 50% LESS VIOLENT CRIMES, MUCH LESS IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, PROPERTY CRIMES.UH, 3% OF THE CRIMINALS DURING, UH, OR THAT WERE ARRESTED DURING WHAT THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT HIS RECENT OPERATION, UM, UH, WERE, UH, HAD ICE DETAINERS ON HIM.
AND SO OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, UH, OF WHICH I'M WELL CONNECTED IS, UM, IS RESILIENT, BUT THEY'RE FRIGHTENED BECAUSE THIS ISN'T BUSINESS AS USUAL.
AND SO SAYING, I'M JUST GONNA FOLLOW THE LAW AND I'M GONNA FOLLOW AND CONTINUE TO DO WHAT I'VE ALWAYS DONE, JUST DOESN'T WORK THIS YEAR.
UM, AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE ICE IS NOW PART OF A MACHINE THAT GIVES NON-CRIMINALS LIFE SENTENCES AND COUNTRIES IN WHICH THEY DIDN'T, THEY'VE NEVER LIVED IN THEIR LIFE.
THIS YEAR, ICE QUICKLY GRABS AND TRANSPORTS MIGRANTS OUT OF LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, UH, WHICH REDUCES JUDICIAL REVIEW.
THIS YEAR, THERE ARE OVER 200 LAWSUITS AND INJUNCTIONS AGAINST THOSE CURRENT PRACTICES.
AND THIS YEAR, ICE IS PRESSURED WITH QUOTAS LEADING TO THE AN ACT FIRST, LET THE COURSE DECIDE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD TYPE OF AN APPROACH.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT SHOULD DP DO DEED DO WITH ICE? DPD IS PHENOMENAL, AS WE HEARD ABOUT FINDING VIOLENT CRIMINALS WHO HAVE FELONY WARRANTS, JUDICIAL WARRANTS, AND ARRESTING THEM.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE THE TS AND THE UM, UH, AND THE ABUELAS AND THE OTHERS WHO, WHO, WHO HAVE NO VIOLENT, UH, UM, UH, UH, CRIME OR VIOLENT, UH, BACKGROUND.
BUT THAT ICE WANTS TO COME AND DROP A GRENADE AND GRAB OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SEND TO PLACES UNKNOWN.
AND THERE'S JUST NO REASON FOR DPD TO HAVE TO COOPERATE WITH THAT.
I MEAN, LET, IF THEY WANT TO DO IT, THAT'S, I DON'T, I DISAGREE WITH IT, BUT THAT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO ARGUE THAT.
BUT LET THEM GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
UM, IT WILL DO IRREPARABLE HARM TO OUR, UH, OUR COMMUNITY.
I THINK TO SEE OUR UNIFORM POLICE, EVEN IF THEY'RE, UM, DOING CROWD CONTROL AND OTHER THINGS.
REMEMBER, THE GATE GETAWAY DRIVER IS JUST AS RESPONSIBLE AS THE PERSON ROBBING THE BANK IN THERE.
AND THE DPD, I BELIEVE WILL BE HELD JUST AS RESPONSIBLE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE ACTIONS OF ICE.
AND, UH, UM, YEAH, I HOPE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS TOPIC IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU, MR. MCWILLIAMS. APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
THE FOURTH AND FINAL, I BELIEVE, UNLESS WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE, IS MINISTER DOMINIQUE ALEXANDER.
WANNA WELCOME MR. ALEXANDER DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE AND WELCOME TO THE BOARD.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW THE DRILL, THE THREE BE THREE MINUTES, AND WE ASK THAT, THAT, UH, TIME IS RESPECTED.
OF COURSE, FINISH YOUR THOUGHT.
UH, BUT THE FLOOR WILL, THE, THE TIME WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU BEGIN THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
UM, I CAME HERE WITH THIS SPEECH, UM, PREPARED TO SAY COMMENTS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS BOARD HAS BEEN CREATED, I TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, I DON'T LIKE TO COME DOWN HERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT IT'S THE DOM ALEXANDER SHOW OR THE AGENDA OF SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME I DECIDE TO COME HERE, LAST TIME I HEARD, UH, SOMEBODY INTERPRET SOMETHING FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THE LAST TIME, FIRST MEETING, I SAW THE CITY ATTORNEY INTERPRET SOMETHING OF THE ORDINANCE AND SOMETHING OF THE RULE.
IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME THE CITY WANT A HANDICAP OR PUT CHAINS OR ROPE AROUND THIS BOARD, WE GET SOME LOOSE INTERPRETATION OF CITY RULES.
WE SAW WHERE INDEPENDENCE OF THIS BOARD WAS SAID OVER 17 TIMES IN THE ORDINANCE.
BUT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID THAT YOU COULD NOT DO INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS.
I'M SO DEEPLY ENRAGED RIGHT NOW.
I CANNOT EVEN COMPREHEND THE WORDS THAT I CAN'T SAY BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE STREETS OF AMERICA RIGHT NOW, WHAT I LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY, UH, WITH THE MIGRANT COMMUNITIES RIGHT NOW, WHEN I SEE PRINCIPALS IN DALLAS, ISD HAVE TO DO DRILLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY PROTECT THEIR KIDS.
WHEN I SEE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD DENY THE EXPERIENCE OF MIGRANTS AND WHAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW USING TRUMP-LIKE NARRATIVES, AND WHEN I SEE A CITY ATTORNEY COME AND TRY TO HANDICAP THIS BOARD, YET AGAIN, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF DALLAS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR VOICE IS NEVER SILENCED.
I HAVE NEVER SAW THAT A DAY IN MY LIFE.
I HAVE LITERALLY WITNESSED CITY COUNCIL
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OFFICIALS ASK QUESTIONS VERY, VERY FREELY.I'VE LITERALLY SAW THIS BOARD ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE WITH PEOPLE VERY, VERY FREELY.
BUT YOU CAN ASK THE CHIEF OF POLICE WHAT HAPPENED AT A DAMN PROTEST LAST NIGHT.
BUT YOU CAN'T ASK THE CHIEF OF POLICE A POLICY THAT SEEMS LIKE CONTROLLED NARRATIVE.
I I DON'T SEE A LAST NIGHT'S PROTEST ON THE AGENDA.
DON'T LET NOBODY COME IN FRONT OF Y'ALL DOING THAT AGAIN.
THE CITY MANAGER REQUIRE WE CAN DO BETTER.
WE DONE SAW THIS HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES.
THIS FIRST, THE FIRST MEETING HELD OF THIS OFFICE WAS DISRUPTED BECAUSE OF THAT CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, NOT BECAUSE OF CHIEF HALL, THAT CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
HOW MANY TIMES ARE THEY GOING TO DO THIS LOOSE RULES AND DIDN'T EVEN QUOTE A SECTION OF THE DAMN ORDINANCE OR CITY POLICY.
HOW MANY TIMES THIS BOARD REFLECTS THE DIVERSITY OF THIS CITY IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS? HOW MANY TIMES? AND THEY SIT BACK THERE.
YEAH, THE CHIEFEST G*****N GONE THE LAST TIME THEY DID THIS.
I GOT THE DAMN CITY MANAGER ON HERE.
WHAT, WHAT DO WE DO? HOW MANY TIMES, MR. ALEXANDER, WE HEAR YOU.
THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
YOUR VOICE IS HEARD AND WE APPRECIATE IT.
UH, UH, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
AT THIS POINT, I'M, I'M DISTURBED TOO.
UM, BECAUSE CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAT IN THIS MEETING WITH US MONTH AFTER MONTH AND HEARD OUR CONCERNS, HEARD US COMPILE THESE QUESTIONS AND HEARD THE CONVERSATIONS WHERE THESE QUESTIONS CAME FROM.
WE HAD AN EX UH, UH, A SPECIAL CALL MEETING WHERE, I DON'T KNOW IF PARTICULAR HE WAS PRESENT, BUT THERE WAS CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PRESIDENT AND THEY HEARD US TALK ABOUT OUR CONCERNS AND WHERE WE WANTED TO ADDRESS, ADDRESS WITH CHIEF CUOMO TODAY.
AND YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME, YOU WAIT, YOU SEE WHAT OUR AGENDA LOOKS LIKE.
YOU DON'T ADVISE US THAT ANY OF THE STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR MEETINGS PRIOR OR THE MEETING WE HAD JUST THIS WEEK, LAST WEEK ARE NOT REFLECTED IN THE WORDING IN OUR AGENDA.
AND THEN YOU COME IN HERE TONIGHT AND TELL US THAT WE CAN'T ASK HIM QUESTIONS ABOUT POLICY.
WHY COME YOU DIDN'T WORK WITH THE OFFICE TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE YOU SURE WORK WITH THE OFFICE AND YOU, YOU, YOU HA DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM COMING IN HERE TELLING US WHAT WE CAN'T DO.
BUT YOU SEE, WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE CAN DO, WELL, YEAH, WHAT WE CAN DO OR WHAT TO INTERPRET WHAT WE CAN DO.
BUT THEN WHEN IT'S, WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO AFFECT, SO WE HAD THE CHIEF OF POLICE HERE AND WE COULDN'T EVEN ASK HIM A QUESTION.
AND YOU WONDER WHY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU GO OUT AND TALK TO 'EM, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL TALK TO 'EM, BUT IN THE AREA THAT I REPRESENT AND IN THE AREAS WHERE I STAY, THEY THINK THIS IS A FUNCTION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
CONTINUALLY, I HAVE TO COMBAT THAT NARRATIVE.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, IS BECAUSE WE ARE SITTING HERE ALLOWING, UH, OUR US TO NOT BE ABLE TO ASK.
AND I MIGHT ADD VERY BROAD QUESTIONS THAT INTERPRETATION OF WHAT BROAD GENERAL QUESTIONS SHOULD BE UP TO US.
NOT TO YOU, BUT YOU SAT HERE AND YOU KNEW WHAT WE WANTED TO DO TONIGHT AND YOU DIDN'T HELP THIS OFFICE OR THIS BOARD MAKE SURE THIS AGENDA WAS CORRECT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT YOU SET US UP AND I'VE SEEN YOU DO IT SEVERAL TIMES AND I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND, AND, AND BE OKAY WITH IT.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY, AND I'M SAYING THIS WITH THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS LISTENING AND I HOPE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND I'LL BE, I'LL BE TALKING TO MY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT THIS.
WE NEED COUNCIL OUTSIDE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IT IS A DIRECT CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR US TO CONTINUE TO HAVE COUNSEL OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE CAN AND CAN DO, CANNOT DO ACCORDING TO LAW AND OPEN MEETINGS ACT FOR HIM TO BE ADVISING US ON WHAT WE CAN DO.
WE NEED OUR OWN COUNSEL BOARD.
I'M GONNA BRING THAT UP AGAIN.
I'LL LEAVE IT THERE, BUT IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
WISH YOUR COMMENTS, ANYBODY ON LINE AND I THINK WE AS A BOARD, WE'LL CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND THE OFFICE AS WELL.
UH, 'CAUSE THERE DOES NEED TO BE, UH, DIS DISAPPOINTED MYSELF THAT WE COULDN'T, UH, HAVE, UH, ASKED THE CHIEF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE PREPARED TO DO.
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I DO HAVE A COMMENT.WE DON'T GET PAID LIKE HE DOES TO BE HERE.
WE'VE SPENT THREE MEETINGS DISCUSSING THIS AND THEN MADE A SPECIAL MEETING ON FRIDAY EVENING TO COMPILE THE LETTER IN QUESTIONS AND NOTHING WAS SAID TO ADVISE US HOW WE COULD HAVE IT, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
JUST TO SET UP THANK YOU BOARD.
LET ME MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL.
UM, MR. LEONARD CITY ATTORNEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TO ADVISE THE BOARD.
THIS CITY ATTORNEY IS NOT ADVISING OUR BOARD.
THIS, THIS WAS A SETUP SO THAT WE COULD NOT DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR WEEKS.
I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED AS A LAWYER, AS A FORMER JUDGE, AND AS A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD.
I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE ACTIONS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND TO THE EXTENT NECESSARY, WE NEED PRIVATE COUNSEL.
I, I, I WANT TO AGREE WITH ALL THOSE STATEMENTS.
UH, I CAN'T HOLD IT ANY LONGER.
NOT, NOT, NOT ONLY DID WE NOT GET ANY DIRECTIVE FROM HIM, BUT 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE, THE AGENDA GOES OUT.
SO WE WASTED ALL THESE PEOPLE'S TIME AND THIS BROADCAST ALL OVER LOCAL NEWS THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
HE MIGHT AS WELL NOT EVEN SHOWN UP.
AND THEN WE DON'T MEET IN JULY.
SO GUESS WHAT? WE MAY NOT EVEN SEE HIM THE REST OF 2025.
THIS IS VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTING.
AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M P****D OFF TO NO MEANS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST JUST FOLLOW UP ON MR. MAPLES, UH, WHAT, WHAT HE SAID ON THAT.
UM, ONE, ONE THING THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, WE COULD DO, WE COULD CREATE AN AGENDA THAT INCLUDES EVERY SINGLE QUESTION ON THE AGENDA, AND WE CAN SCHEDULE A MEETING SEVEN EVERY 72 HOURS UNTIL THE CHIEF SHOWS UP.
AND I DO NOT SEE HOW THAT WOULD RUN AFOUL OF CITY RULES.
REST ASSURED, WE THE BOARD, WE WILL FIND A WAY, WE WILL FIND A WAY TO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE.
SO, CHAIR, I I JUST WANNA REINFORCE THAT THE, THE PEOPLE NEED TO GET TO KNOW THEIR CHIEF SUBSTANTIVELY.
THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO JUST READ HIS RESUME.
THE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHO IS POLICING THEM BECAUSE THE CULTURE STARTS AT THE TOP AND THE PEOPLE DESERVE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT THE PEOPLE VERY LEGITIMATELY HAVE.
AND I, AND IF THE THE RULES OF THIS MEETING DON'T SERVE THE PEOPLE GETTING ANSWERS, THEN THE RULES OF THE MEETING ARE NOT SERVING THE PEOPLE CHAIR.
LAST COMMENT AND WE'VE GOTTA MOVE ON.
UM, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I WAS SO ADAMANT ABOUT US NOT SENDING A LETTER IS BECAUSE I FELT LIKE THE CHIEF WOULD BE HERE SO THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THE CONCERNS IN PUBLIC.
AND AS SOMEONE WHO
UH, IT FELT LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO VOICE THEIR GENUINE, VALID CONCERNS TO A PERSON WHO, A POSITION THAT HASN'T HISTORICALLY COME TO THE MEETINGS, UM, ON A CONSISTENT BASIS THAT, THAT WE WERE ALL KIND OF SET UP.
AND I WAS ACTUALLY VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING THE CONCERNS BEING PRESENTED.
THAT'S WHY I SAID WHAT I SAID, HEY, I'M GONNA ASK YOU SOMETHING SIMPLE BECAUSE I KNOW THE BOARD'S GONNA GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ANSWER THE HARD QUESTIONS.
AND, AND IT DID FEEL LIKE, I GUESS, FROM SITTING ON DIFFERENT COMMITTEES IN, IN THE CITY, UM, I GUESS I'M JUST NOT USED TO CITY COUNCIL BEING A PART OF THE MEETING, KNOWING OUR AGENDA, KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
AND THEN ALLOWING US NOT TO BE SUCCESSFUL
AND THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO TENDS TO BE AS NEUTRAL AS I POSSIBLY CAN BE, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT IT WAS FAIR TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAD GENUINE, VALID CONCERNS, UH, TO BE MUTED, UM, IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS.
SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY THAT, THAT I TOO AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE OUTCOME, UH, OF THIS MEETING AND, AND HOW THINGS WERE SET UP AND HOW WE WERE SET UP TO FAIL.
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WITH A BROKEN HEART.WE'LL CONTINUE WITH, UH, WITH THE AGENDA.
THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR OUR LAST MEETING, BOARD MEMBERS COULD TAKE A MOMENT TO REVIEW THE MINUTES LOCATED IN THE BOARD PACKET TO SEE IF ANY CORRECTIONS OR REVISIONS NEED TO BE MADE.
IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
JUDGE VICTOR LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT.
I MO MOVE THAT THE MINUTES BE APPROVED.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING THERE'S NONE, I WILL TAKE A VOICE VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED, SAY, NAY APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES HAS BEEN PASSED.
AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM SIX, BRIEFING AND OVERVIEW OF THE MEDIATION PROGRAM.
AND THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE STAGE TO THE, TO THE MICROPHONE, THE POLICY ANALYST SIERRA BOI, IF SHE COULD COME AND SHARE WITH US AS A BOARD A LITTLE ABOUT THE MEDIATION PROGRAM AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE OFFICE.
AND THERE WILL BE A TIME AFTER HER PRESENTATION.
IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN ADDRESS.
AND, UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MS. OBSU.
CAN WE ASKED QUESTIONS?
AGAIN, MY NAME IS SIERRA OBSU.
I'M THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, AND I WILL BE GIVING A PRESENTATION OVER THE MEDIATION PROGRAM, ALONG WITH DIRECTOR ANDRE AND MAJOR GREER.
SINCE JANUARY, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, HAS BEEN WORKING TO LAUNCH THE CITY OF DALLAS'S INAUGURAL MEDIATION PROGRAM.
THIS IS A VOLUNTARY INITIATIVE DESIGNED TO BRING TOGETHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS TO ADDRESS MINOR MISCONDUCT COMPLAINTS THROUGH OPEN AND RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE.
IN THIS PRESENTATION, I WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE MEDIATION PROGRAM, BEGINNING WITH ITS BACKGROUND AND HISTORICAL DEVELOPMENT.
I'LL OUTLINE THE PROGRAM'S PURPOSE AND GOALS, FOLLOWED BY ITS GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND OPERATIONAL PROCESS, WHICH WILL REFLECT OUR CORE VALUES AND PROCEDURES.
I WILL ALSO REVIEW THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AND THE ROLES OF PARTICIPATING INDIVIDUALS.
IN ADDITION, I'LL PRESENT THE PROPOSED ENHANCEMENTS DEVELOPED IN COLLABORATION WITH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, AND CONCLUDE WITH OUR PLANNED NEXT STEPS FOR SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION.
AGAIN, AS STATED IN THE INTRODUCTION, THE MEDIATION PROGRAM WAS DEVELOPED AND THROUGH A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN OCPO AND THE IAD, IT WAS CREATED AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO TRADITIONAL INVESTIGATIVE PROCESSES FOR ADDRESSING MINOR MISCONDUCT COMPLAINTS.
THE PROGRAM IS AUTHORIZED UNDER DALLAS CITY CODE, SPECIFICALLY ARTICLE THREE, CHAPTER 37, SECTION 37 DASH 32.2, AND IS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND HERE IN DALLAS.
THE GOAL IS TO OFFER A STRUCTURED, RESPECTFUL ENVIRONMENT WHERE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND POLICE OFFICERS CAN COME TOGETHER TO DIRECTLY ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE MEDIATION PROGRAM IS TO OFFER A VOLUNTARY AND CONFIDENTIAL PROCESS THAT FACILITATES CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE COMPLAINANT AND THE INVOLVED DPD OFFICER.
IT'S DESIGNED TO PROMOTE OPEN ON HIS COMMUNICATION IN A NON ADVERSARIAL SETTING.
EACH SESSION IS GUIDED BY A PROFESSIONAL MEDIATOR, SOMEONE WHO IS NEUTRAL AND TRAINED IN CONFLICT RESOLUTION.
THEIR ROLE IS TO FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION IN A WAY THAT ENSURES BOTH PARTIES FEEL HEARD AND UNDERSTOOD.
THE GOAL ISN'T TO ASSIGN BLAME, BUT RATHER TO FOSTER MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AND WHEN POSSIBLE TO SUPPORT RECONCILIATION.
A FEW CORE PRINCIPLES OF OUR MEDIATION PROCESS IS THAT ALL MEDIATION SESSIONS ARE STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL.
DISCUSSIONS CANNOT BE USED IN COURT, AND MEDIATORS OR STAFF CANNOT BE SUBPOENAED OR CALLED AS WITNESS AS PROTECTED UNDER ARTICLE THREE, CHAPTER 37, PARTICIPATION THAT IS ALSO VOLUNTARY.
BOTH THE OFFICER AND COMPLAINANT MUST AGREE TO THE MEDIATION PROCESS.
APPROVED MEDIATIONS WILL BE SCHEDULED WITHIN 30 DAYS.
SUCCESSFUL MEDIATIONS ARE CONSIDERED FINAL WITH NO FURTHER ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION TAKEN FROM THE OCPO OR THE CPOB.
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WILL LAST NO MORE THAN TWO HOURS AND ARE CONDUCTED IN A QUIET, NEUTRAL LOCATION SUCH AS THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES OR CITY RECREATION CENTERS.THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR A MEDIATION IS LIMITED TO CASES INVOLVING MINOR MISCONDUCT, AND WHERE THERE IS NO PENDING CIVIL LIGA, CIVIL LITIGATION, CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, OR ACTIVE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS RELATED TO THE INCIDENT, BOTH THE COMPLAINANT AND THE DVD OFFICER ARE EXPECTED TO ENGAGE IN THE MEDIATION PROCESS.
SINCERELY AND RESPECTFULLY, HOWEVER, REACHING A MUTUAL AGREEMENT IS NOT REQUIRED FOR PARTICIPATION.
MEDIATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED BY A HIGHLY TRAINED, EXPERIENCED, AND IMPARTIAL CONTRACTED MEDIATOR WHO WILL ENSURE A FAIR AND RESPECTFUL ENVIRONMENT FOR DIALOGUE.
WHILE PARTIES ARE ENCOURAGED TO EXPRESS THEIR PERSPECTIVES AND LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER, ANY AGREEMENTS REACH ARE ENTIRELY VOLUNTARY.
AGAIN, WHILE COLLABORATING WITH IAD, WE PROPOSED A FEW ENHANCEMENTS TO THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE OF THE MEDIATION PROGRAM, BEGINNING WITH REDUCING THE WAITING PERIOD BETWEEN MEDIATION FROM SIX MONTHS TO 90 DAYS.
THIS APPROVAL IS A PENDING AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE DALLAS CITY CODE.
WE ALSO PROPOSE IMPLEMENTING CLEARLY DEFINED ELIGIBILITY STANDARDS.
WE ESTABLISH MANDATING TIMELY RESOLUTIONS BY REQUIRING ALL MEDIATIONS TO BE COMPLETED WITHIN 30 DAYS OF APPROVAL.
WE WILL ALSO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OFFICERS TO PARTICIPATE IN EITHER UNIFORM OR PLAIN CLOTHES BASED ON THE APPROPRIATENESS AND COMFORT.
OFFICERS WHO PARTICIPATE IN COMPLETE A MEDIATION SESSION WILL RECEIVE A ACCOMMODATION AND TWO HOURS OF PAID OVERTIME.
BOTH THE COMPLAINANT AND THE OFFICER WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO BRING A REPRESENTATIVE, REPRESENTATIVE OF THEIR CHOICE FOR SUPPORT.
HOWEVER, TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY AND CONFIDENTIALITY OF THE MEDIATION PROCESS, REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE REQUIRED TO REMAIN OUTSIDE THE MEDIATION DURING THE SESSION.
OUR NEXT STEPS WILL CONSIST OF LAUNCHING AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN AND HOSTING INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL ABOUT THE MEDIATION PROGRAM.
WE ALSO PLAN TO FACILITATE A MINIMUM OF TWO PILOT MEDIATION SESSIONS BY THE END OF THE YEAR TO ASSESS THE PROGRAM'S OPERATIONAL EFFECTIVENESS AND GATHER INITIAL INSIGHTS, FEEDBACK FROM PARTICIPANTS, INCLUDING COMMUNITY MEMBERS, OFFICERS, AND MEDIATORS, WILL AID IN EVALUATING THE PROGRAM'S OUTCOMES AND INFORMING DATA-DRIVEN IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS WILL BE ESSENTIALLY ESSENTIAL IN ENSURING THE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE PROGRAM.
AND NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE DIRECTOR AND MAJOR GREER FOR THEIR FOLLOW UP COMMENTS.
SO, WE'RE EXCITED TO SHARE OUR COLLAB COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH DPDS INTERNAL AFFAIRS TO IMPLEMENT A MEDIATION PROGRAM FOR RESULT AND MINOR, UM, MISCONDUCT COMPLAINTS.
ALTHOUGH THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN AUTHORIZED UNDER THE DALLAS CITY CODE SINCE 2019, NO SUCCESSFUL MEDIATION HAS OCCURRED UNTIL NOW.
WE'RE ON TRACK TO COMPLETE TWO SUCCESSFUL MEDIATION BY YEAR END.
THIS INITIATIVE OFFERED A MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY CENTERED ALTERNATIVE TO TRADITIONAL COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION.
IT ALLOWS COMPLAINANTS AND OFFICERS TO ENGAGE IN A STRUCTURED, FACILITATED DIALOGUE, PRIORITIZING HEALING, UNDERSTANDING, AND RESTORATION OVER PUNITIVE ACTION FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THIS ADDS TREMENDOUS VALUE BY PROMOTING TRANSPARENCY, STRENGTHENING TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND EMPOWERING THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE PART IN SHAPING SAFER AND MORE RESPECTFUL, UH, POLICE AND PRACTICE.
THIS JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT AND INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION IS A POWERFUL EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE WHEN OVERSIGHT AND INTERNAL ACCOUNTABILITY WORKS HAND TO HAND.
OUR COLLABORATIVE, OUR COLLABORATION ON THIS PROGRAM IS NOT JUST A ONE A STEP FORWARD TODAY.
IT IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE OF POLICE AND IN DALLAS BY CONTINUING TO BRIDGE, UM, BUILD A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE'RE HELPING TO CREATE A MORE RESPONSIVE AND TRUSTED PUBLIC SYS SAFETY SYSTEM FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UM, MAJOR GREER.
AND LISTEN, I I WANNA SAY THIS, THAT, UM, IAD AND, AND, AND THE, AND THE BOARD AND ALSO THE OFFICE, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FRONTS AND WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT.
BUT THE ONE THING THAT HAS ME MORE EXCITED THAN ALL THE THINGS WE'VE DONE SO FAR IS THIS PROJECT.
UH, THE REASON I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT, IT'S BECAUSE THE CITY'S ALWAYS HAD THIS PROGRAM, THE MEDIATION PROGRAM, AND I'VE BEEN IN AND OUT OF EVERY RANK AND IED FOR A LONG TIME.
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NEVER DONE.WE'VE NEVER MEDIATED ONE SINGLE CASE, EVEN THOUGH THIS, UH, VENUE, THIS AVENUE HAS BEEN THERE.
AND SO TO, FOR US, ONCE WE FINALLY, UH, ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL OF JUST THE ONE, WE'RE SHOOTING FOR TWO, BUT IF WE CAN GET THE ONE MAN, I'D COUNT THAT AS A WIN.
BUT, UM, ONCE WE ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL, THAT IS HUGE.
UM, I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THE TRUST THAT THIS WOULD INSTILL IN THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAVE, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY OR THAT ANY TWO HUMAN BEINGS HAVE, A LOT OF TIMES IT CAN BE ADDRESSED.
NOT THROUGH AN INVESTIGATION, NOT THROUGH A BOARD, BUT JUST A SIMPLE CONVERSATION, UH, JUST TO SIT DOWN WITH THAT PERSON THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AND LOOK 'EM IN THE EYE AND TALK TO 'EM.
THEY GET TO SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
YOU GET TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
THAT'S THE ULTIMATE IN TRANSPARENCY, BECAUSE I'M NOT GETTING MY INFORMATION, UM, YOU KNOW, AROUND, THROUGH ANOTHER ROUTE.
I'M GETTING IT FROM THE PERSON THAT I HAD THE ISSUE WITH, AND THEY GET TO HEAR MY CONCERNS.
UH, UH, I GET TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS.
THE, THE, THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO ALL THE, UH, ASSOCIATIONS.
CERTAINLY WE'RE GONNA GET THE BUY-IN OF THE BOARD TO GET YOUR INPUT.
WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AGAIN, UH, TO LET YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT BEFORE WE MOVE TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION.
BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET IT DONE, IT'S NOT GONNA BE IF, BUT WHEN WE GET IT DONE THIS TIME.
I WANNA OPEN UP TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, STATEMENTS ADDRESSED, UH, REGARDING THIS? YES, MS. KING.
UH, MAJOR GREER AND SIERRA AND MICHELLE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS INFORMATION.
UM, IS THIS MODELED AFTER A PROGRAM ELSEWHERE IN THE COUNTRY? IS IT AN INNOVATIVE IDEA THAT WE CAME UP WITH TO, AS YOU SAID, BUILD COMMUNITY SUPPORT? I THINK IT'S EXCITING.
UM, AND I DO HOPE WE GET THAT ONE, IF NOT THAT TWO.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN SHOW THAT IT CAN WORK.
I, I DO WONDER, BESIDES TALKING TO THE VARIOUS POLICE ASSOCIATIONS, HOW ARE YOU GONNA SHARE THIS WITH THE RANK AND FILE SO THAT THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AND A COMFORT LEVEL WITH IT? WELL, ABSOLUTELY.
WE'RE, WE'RE STARTING TO MEET WITH, UH, THE DIFFERENT MEMBERS, UH, NOW BECAUSE IT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE BUY-IN ON THIS AS WELL AS THE OFFICERS HAVE BUY-IN, IT HAS TO BE 50 50.
WE, IT WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT BOTH SIDES UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS AND BEING RECEPTIVE TO THE PROCESS.
SO, UM, AND WE'RE STARTING THOSE CONVERSATIONS NOW.
UH, AND THE, AND THE, UH, THE OFFICE WILL ALSO BE PUSHING OUT INFORMATION FOR THE, THE CITIZENS TO GET THEIR BUY-IN AND BECOME MORE INFORMATIVE.
AND SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, I JUST WANNA YES, DIRECTOR ASK A QUESTION.
UM, SO THE, THE MODEL, IT'S NOT MODELED SPECIFICALLY AFTER ANY, UM, PARTICULAR MEDIATION PROGRAM BECAUSE THIS WAS ALREADY IN PLACE IN THE ORDINANCE.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE THE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND ON THAT, BUT THERE ARE SOME FEW THINGS THAT WE ADDED ON THAT WAS IN MENTIONED AS FAR AS PROCESS, LIKE THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, ADDING A QUESTION TO OUR COMPLAINT PROCESS, SEEING IF PEOPLE ARE OPEN TO A MEDIATION THAT CAME FROM THE ALBANY COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
AND THEN, UM, WE HAD ALSO PHILLY, UM, THE ACCOMMODATION, HAVING A LETTER, RIGHT.
FOR THE OFFICER FOR PARTICIPATING.
SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS AND JUST PUTTING TOGETHER ALL THE REALLY GOOD, UM, THINGS, FEEDBACKS THAT WE GOT IN RESEARCH.
UM, WE JUST SAW DIFFERENT WAYS.
UM, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT'S UNIQUE TO US AS FAR AS LIKE THE UNIFORM, HAVING THAT OPTIONAL, AND THEN, UM, HAVING, UM, LOCATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LIKE A NEUTRAL LOCATION, THE RECREATION CENTER OR A LIBRARY, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE BRINGING ON, YOU KNOW, TO DALLAS.
THANK MR. YES, MR. KIDNER, UM, UH, THE, THE MEDIATION PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN THE ORDINANCE SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING FOR ALMOST SIX YEARS NOW.
AND AS YOU SAY, WE HAVEN'T HAD A MEDIATION YET.
AND IT ALWAYS SEEMED TO ME THE CONCERN WAS THERE WAS NO INCENTIVE FOR AN OFFICER TO DO A MEDIATION.
UM, WHAT DO YOU SEE NOW IS THE INCENTIVE, OR HOW DO YOU PROPOSE GOING, EXCUSE ME, TO GET OFFICERS TO PARTICIPATE? I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY EASIER TO GET A, A COMPLAINANT TO PARTICIPATE, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, WHY YOU THINK NOW? I I HOPE YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL.
WELL, I THINK THE ONE THING WE HAVE THAT WE ARE SHOOTING FOR IS THIS IS THE IDEA THAT THESE ARE MINOR VIOLATIONS COMPLAINTS THAT MAY RESULT IN WHAT WOULD BE WHAT WE CALL SUMMARY DISCIPLINE.
UM, INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND HAVING, AND IT'S MINOR DISCIPLINE, BUT HAVING ANY DISCIPLINE, UM, MOST OFFICERS DON'T WANT THAT, BUT INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THAT ROUTE, THE MEDIATION WOULD SOLVE THAT, AND IT WOULD NEGATE ANY POSSIBLE MINOR DISCIPLINE
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THAT YOU'D RECEIVE BECAUSE YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE MEDIATION PROGRAM.SO THE INCENTIVE TO THE OFFICER WOULD BE THAT IF HE PARTICIPATED AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL, THERE WOULDN'T BE A, A MARK AGAINST HIM ON HIS RECORD.
AND, AND ALSO NO INVESTIGATION IS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
IT'S THE MEDIATION TAKES THE PLACE OF ANY KIND OF INVESTIGATION, UH, OR ANY TYPE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
YOU SOUND POSITIVE, AND I HOPE YOU ARE POSITIVE.
THE NEXT TIME YOU REPORT SOMETHING TO US, I HOPE SO, TOO.
YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
JUST WANNA ADD, UM, SO WE ALSO HAVE THE TWO HOURS OVERTIME.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S POSITIVE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP TO FACILITATE THAT PROCESS.
I THINK THE MEDIATION PROGRAM IS A WONDERFUL IDEA.
I THINK, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S HIGH TIME.
WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS.
WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR MEDIATORS WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO CONTRACT THAT OUT? UM, SO PREVIOUSLY WE HAD A MEDIATION MANAGER, BUT WE THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE BEST TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S NEUTRAL FROM EITHER PARTY.
SO YOU'RE GONNA, WHEN YOU SAY CONTRACT THAT OUT, DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE GONNA BE PAYING A LAWYER OR SOMEBODY WHO, UH, YES.
IS IN, WHO'S TRAINED BY, UH, MEDIATION SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YES.
UM, YOU INDICATED, UM, MS. SIERRA THAT, UM, WHEN THE MEDIATION TAKES PLACE, NEITHER, BOTH PARTIES CAN HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, BUT THE REPRESENTATIVE WOULD NOT BE IN THE MEDIATION.
WHEN YOU SAY REPRESENTATIVE, YOU MEAN LIKE A LAWYER, DO YOU MEAN, UM, SOMEBODY WHO'S JUST HOLDING THEIR HAND, UM, ANYONE TO SUPPORT.
UM, SOME OFFICERS MAY BRING THEIR ASSOCIATION OR, UM, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
UM, ANYONE JUST TO SUPPORT, SOME OFFICERS MAY BRING THEIR ASSOCIATION REP OR, UM, THE COMPLAINANT MAY BRING A LAWYER OR A FRIEND.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE COMPLAINANT AND OFFICER.
COULD A COMPLAINANT BRING AN ATTORNEY WITH THEM AND WOULD THAT BE, CREATE A PROBLEM? THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN THE ROOM.
THEY CAN ALWAYS BRING THEM FOR SUPPORT.
BUT AS FAR AS BEING IN THE MEDIATION ROOM AND A PART OF THE MEDIATION PROCESS, NO.
SO IN THE MEDIATION ROOM WOULD BE THE OFFICER, THE COMPLAINANT, AND THE MEDIATOR? CORRECT.
I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
UH, PARTICULARLY SINCE I'M A TRAINED MEDIATOR.
I REALLY THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
MR. HIGGINS, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU, MAJOR GREER FOR YOUR WORK.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME ROCKY TIMES OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS OR SO WITH GETTING PARTICIPATION, COOPERATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
AND I MEAN, MEAN, YOU'VE JUST BEEN A BRIGHT SPOT WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THAT, AND WE THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM, UH, FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, COMING AND, AND, AND WORKING WITH US.
AND ALSO WHAT I THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE RECOGNIZED, IS THAT YOU SAID, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THIS AND WE'RE GONNA COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU BEFORE WE DO IT, AND THAT, AND THAT, AND BEFORE WE FINALIZE.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT, I THINK SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE THAT WE ASK FOR FROM THIS BOARD WHEN, AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE PUBLIC TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE, THAT WE ARE A STAKEHOLDER IN THAT PROCESS.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ON THE WITCH HUNT.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CONTROL ANYTHING.
WE WANT TO DO OUR JOB AS OVERSIGHT.
AND SO, UM, JUST I GOT, I GOTTA COMMEND YOU AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOU.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
YEAH, I TOO, I TOO WANNA CHIME IN IF I CAN.
I, I LIKE THIS MEDIATION PROGRAM.
UM, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT DURING THE MEDIATION, THE POLICE OFFICER, UH, COULD NOT BE IN UNIFORM? NO.
HE HAS THE OPTION TO BE IN UNIFORM OR NOT.
UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT TAKES THE WALLS DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND THE PERSON THEY HAVE THE, THE MEDIATION STATION SESSION WITH SEES A PERSON INSTEAD OF STILL SEEING THAT POLICE OFFICER.
UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M, I'M PULLING FOR THE PROCESS.
UM, IT'S TERRIBLE THAT IT'S SITTING IN LIMBO FOR SIX YEARS AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.
BUT YOU, YOU, YOU'VE BEEN, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN A BLESSING AND, UH, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING SOME POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT THIS MOVING FORWARD.
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ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? LET ME MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT, UH, TO THE, TO THE OFFICE AND TO YOU, SIR, THAT, UH, YOU CONTACT THE VARIOUS LEGAL SOCIETIES OF, OF DALLAS, THE, UH, JAIL ALTERNATIVE LEGAL ASSOCIATION, HISPANIC BAR ASSOCIATION, ET CETERA, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN GET SOME VOLUNTEER MEDIATORS, UM, NOT NECESSARILY CONTRACTED, BUT VOLUNTEER.I'M SO GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'VE GOT THE POLICE OFFICERS BACKING YOU UP.
NOT, NOT TO PILE ON, BUT, UM, I, I TOO WANT TO THANK MAJOR GREER, LIKE THE OTHER PEOPLE.
I, I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FROM THE BEGINNING AND IT'S JUST NIGHT AND DAY FROM WHERE WE WERE BEFORE.
AND I, I THINK IT DOES SHOW THAT THERE CAN BE BUY-IN AND SUPPORT ON BOTH SIDES.
AND I COMMEND YOU AND I COMMEND MICHELLE.
I THINK YOU GUYS ARE WORKING TOGETHER WELL AND, UM, IT, IT'S HEARTENING TO SEE THIS KIND OF PROGRESS, SO THANK YOU.
IT APPEARS THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, AND SO I WANNA THANK MAJOR GREER POLICY ANALYST, SIERRA, AND ALSO DIRECTOR FOR THIS PROGRAM.
AND WE WISH, UH, THE BEST OF LUCK AS YOU BUILD THIS AND GET BUY-IN.
AND WE WE'RE SO EAGER TO GET THE UPDATE AS YOU CONTINUE.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE NOW TO THE AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT STAFF REPORT.
AND WE'LL GO TO ITEM A SEVEN, WHICH IS THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES DIRECTOR MICHELLE ANDRE, FOR THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME UPDATE, UM, IN REGARDS TO OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT ON MAY 27TH.
YOU CAN'T HEAR ME? YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.
ON MAY 27TH, OUR POLICY ANALYST AND I MET WITH THE OFFICE, UM, BUDGET OFFICE TO PRESENT OUR FOUR, UM, OCPA PROGRAM PROPOSALS TO THE CITY MANAGERS, UM, FOR CONSIDERATION, UM, DURING THIS SESSION, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS REQUESTED AFTER THE MEETING, UM, REGARDING THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM.
UM, WE'LL PROVIDE YOU ANY UPDATES IN REGARDS TO ANY MAJOR, UM, CHANGES TO FY 26 BUDGET AS DEVELOPMENTS OCCUR.
UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A REMINDER OF THE THREE WE, WHAT WE DID AS FAR AS THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING.
UM, CONVERTED ALL OF OUR OFFICE INTO LIKE, UM, FOUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. SO ONE OF THE PROGRAMS, COMMUNITY OUTREACH ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES.
ANOTHER PROGRAM IS COMPLAINT INTAKE INVESTIGATION, CRITICAL, UM, INCIDENT RESPONSE.
THIRD PROGRAM IS POLICY REVIEW AND REFORM.
AND THEN THE FOURTH PROGRAM IS PUBLIC REPORT AND TRANSPARENCY AND OVERSIGHT BOARD.
UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A REMINDER, UM, ON MAY 21ST, I PARTICIPATED IN THE DPD TELECOMMUNICATION TOUR AS PART OF THE CITIZEN POLICE, UM, ACADEMY CLASS 55, GAINING INSIGHT INTO THE DEPARTMENT'S DISPATCH OPERATION.
UM, I'M SCHEDULED TO GRADUATE FROM THE DALLAS CITY, UM, POLICE ACADEMY.
UM, ON JUNE 21ST, ON MAY 27TH, I'VE HAD AN IN-PERSON INTRODUCTORY MEETING WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE, UM, ALONGSIDE WITH THE CHAIR, UM, DAVIDSON, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORK CLOSELY WITH CHIEF CUOMO IN ADVANCED TRANSPARENCY, TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN POLICE AND PRACTICE.
ON MAY 29TH, OUR SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, AMMA PEREZ, UM, SUCCESSFULLY ORGANIZED HER FIRST MAJOR EVENT AT FIRESIDE RECREATION CENTER.
UM, HER LEADERSHIP AND DEDICATION WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN ITS SUCCESS, UM, AND WE ARE INCREDIBLY PROUD TO HAVE HER.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY STRENGTH FOR OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND TRUST BUILDING EFFORTS WITH DPD IN THE COMMUNITY.
IN REGARDS TO JUNETEENTH CULTURAL ENGAGEMENT, UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING IN JUNETEENTH, UM, CULTURAL EVENTS THIS MONTH.
AMMA WILL BE PROVIDING IN SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE EVENTS OUR OFFICE WILL BE ATTENDING DURING HER BRIEFING ON JUNE 26TH, WE WILL HOST, UM, BUILDING TRUST, THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION WITH DIRECTOR MICHELLE ANDRE IN HAMPTON PARK.
UM, CALENDAR INVITE HAS BEEN SENT, YOUR ATTENDANCE IS WELCOME FOR SUPPORT, UM, FOR RUN, UM, FOR THE BLUE.
UM, I'LL BE PARTICIP PARTICIPATING IN RUN FOR THE BLUE ON JULY 5TH.
UM, UM, THANK YOU TO BOARD MEMBER MAPLES FOR SHARING THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UM, WITH ME, OUR OCPO ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD IS SCHEDULED TO FOR A PRESENTATION AT THE AUGUST PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, FOR, UM, MORE INFORMATION TO COME.
UM, WE WANTED TO JUST PREVIEW THIS DASHBOARD TO THE CHIEF, UM, BEFORE WE PRESENTED IT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UM, AND WENT LIVE.
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UM, ONE OF THE INSIGHT I JUST FOUND OUT RE UM, TODAY IS THAT, UM, OUR WEBSITES,I KNOW THINGS TAKES A LONG TIME HERE, UM, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE UPDATED WEBSITE.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT THE BOARD HAS SHARED FOR SOME TIME A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT HOW OUTDATED.
SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO HIGHLIGHT OUR STAFF, THEIR BACKGROUND PHOTOS, SO THE COMMUNITY, UM, HAVE OUR INFORMATION AND KNOW WHAT WE LOOK LIKE AND HAVE TRUST IN OUR BACKGROUND.
ON, UM, FRIDAY, JUNE 13TH, UM, POLICY ANALYSTS, UM, SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALISTS AND MYSELF WILL PARTICIPATE IN RIDE-ALONG THIRD WATCH SOUTHWEST DIVISION.
UM, OUR AIM IS TO COMPLETE RIDE-ALONGS AND EACH PATROL DIVISION.
WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING TO SCHEDULE OUR FINAL RIDE-ALONG AND THE NORTHEAST DIVISION.
UM, WE REMAINED, UM, FOCUSED ON REFINE OUR OPERATION AND ENSURING ALIGNMENT WITH OUR MISSION TO CONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND COLLABORATE WITH KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND COMMUNICATE WITH PURPOSE.
UM, I'M PROUD OF THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE SO FAR AND LOOK FORWARD TO DEEPENING OUR IMPACT THROUGH COMMUNITY CENTERED, UM, POLICE OVERSIGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE DIRECTOR? YES, MS. KING.
I WANNA INVITE THE BOARD TO COME TO MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT 10.
IT'S IN YOUR, UH, AGENDA THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE AN INFORMATION TABLE AT THE HAMILTON PARK JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION ON SATURDAY, JUNE 21ST FROM ONE TO FIVE.
PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA STOP BY.
UM, THANKS IN ADVANCE TO ALMA AND YOUR WHOLE TEAM FOR BEING PART OF THAT.
AND THEN THE NEXT WEEK, WE HAVE A MEETING SET UP ON JUNE 26TH AT THE HAMILTON PARK, WILLIE B. JOHNSON COMM RECREATION CENTER TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND I INVITE MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS TO JOIN US THAT NIGHT.
AND, UM, IT'S A MEET THE DIRECTOR AND BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH THIS BOARD.
AND THAT IS REALLY SO MUCH, UH, ONE OF OUR JOBS AS BOARD MEMBERS IS TO HELP EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AND REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEN I UNDERSTAND YOUR LAST RIDE ALONG IS IN MY DIVISION, NORTHEAST DIVISION.
SO, CAN I TAG ALONG? IS THERE A ROOM ENOUGH AND A CAR? LET ME KNOW.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, DIRECTED TOWARDS THE DIRECTOR? OKAY.
THIS MEANS THAT WE CAN MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN B, WHICH IS A SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR REPORT.
SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF IS HERE, UH, TO PRESENT.
WE HAVE TWO INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION REPORTS THAT HE'LL BE SHARING TODAY.
UH, ONE INVOLVING TIFFANY ZAKO, GUANAJUATO, AND ALSO THE SECOND ABDUL
THESE ARE INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE, AS A BOARD PREVIOUSLY BOARDED ON FOR THERE TO BE AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
SO WHAT WE ARE HEARING TODAY IS THAT INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FROM THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR.
WE'LL LISTEN TO, UH, HIS REPORT, HIS FINDINGS, HIS RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE AS A BOARD WILL VOTE ON, UH, WHETHER TO SUPPORT APPROVE THOSE.
AND IF THERE'S ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE, ANY ACTIONS WE WANNA TAKE AS A BOARD, WE CAN VOTE ON THOSE AS WELL, THE DISCUSSION.
SO I WANNA GIVE THE FLOOR TO SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF TO SHARE WITH US THE, THE, UH, THESE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS.
I'M GREG HUFF, THE INVESTIGATOR WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
UH, THE FIRST INVESTIGATION I'LL SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT IS FROM COMPLAINANT TIFFANY ZARKO GUANAJUATO.
BACK ON JANUARY 29TH, 2025, UH, ZARKO GUANAJUATO SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED BACK ON JUNE 13TH, 2024.
IT INVOLVED HER BOYFRIEND, JOHN CRENSHAW AND ZAHAR GUANAJUATO WAS ARRESTED THAT EVENING.
THE, UM, THE, UH, IMPROPER INVESTIGATION.
SHE SUMMED IT UP BY SAYING THE OFFICERS FAILED TO CONDUCT AN IMPARTIAL INVESTIGATION, IGNORED CRUCIAL EVIDENCE, AND NEGLECTED TO DOCUMENT ANY INJURIES PROPERLY.
UM, SUBMITTED WITH HER COMPLAINT WAS MEDICAL RECORDS INDICATING THAT SHE HAD A BITE MARK ON HER ABDOMEN, A SCRATCH ON HER NECK, AND IT WAS UNCLEAR WHETHER SHE WAS STRANGLED THAT NIGHT.
UH, THE RECORDS ALSO NOTED THAT SHE HAD LACERATIONS ON HER FOREARM, WHICH SHE INDICATED WAS SELF-INFLICTED IN ATTEMPT TO GET AWAY FROM HER BOYFRIEND.
UM, BESIDES THE IMPROPER INVESTIGATION THAT SHE COMPLAINED ABOUT, SHE ALSO, UH, COMPLAINED THAT THERE WAS EXCESSIVE POLICE RESPONSE THAT NIGHT.
UH, SHE ADVISED HER OF NINE OR MORE OFFICERS THAT ARRIVED AT THE, UH, INCIDENT, AND SHE ALSO COMPLAINED THAT SHE WAS HUMILIATED THAT NIGHT AT THE HOSPITAL WHEN SHE HAD TO USE A RESTROOM BAREFOOT THAT HAD URINE ALL OVER THE FLOOR.
SO, THE, UM, INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION
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RECEIVED THAT COMPLAINT, AND THEY RESPONDED BY ADVISING THAT THEY DO NOT INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THE PROPOSED GUILT OR INNOCENCE OF A CASE.UM, THEREFORE, THE, THE, UH, COMPLAINT WENT DOWN TO OUR OFFICE AND A HIGHLIGHT TO THE, UH, INVESTIGATION HERE.
UH, A REVIEW OF THE ORIGINAL POLICE REPORT WRITTEN BY OFFICER MULLEN DID NOT CONTAIN A STATEMENT FROM ZA HARKO GUANAJUATO.
THE REPORT CONTAINED A STATEMENT FROM JOHN CRENSHAW AND DESCRIBED HIS INJURIES.
OFFICER MULLEN COPE WROTE IN THE REPORT THAT HE SPOKE TO ZARKO GU GUANAJUATO OVER THE PHONE TO GET HER TO OPEN THE DOOR TO THE APARTMENT THAT EVENING.
HE ALSO WROTE THAT HE OBSERVED FRESH CUTS ON HER FOREARMS. UM, HOWEVER, NOTHING IN THE REPORT REFERENCES QUESTIONING ZAHAR GUANAJUATO ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THAT EVENING.
AND THERE WERE NO OTHER INJURIES DOCUMENTED ON HER.
THERE WERE 18 PHOTOS IN EVIDENCE.
NINE OF THOSE PHOTOS WERE OF JOHN CRENSHAW AND HIS INJURIES AND NINE OF THOSE PHOTOS WERE OF BLOOD AT THE APARTMENT AND THERE WERE NO PHOTOS OF ZAHAR CO GUANAJUATO.
A REVIEW OF THE BODY-WORN CAMERA SHOW THAT NO OFFICERS AT THE SCENE OF THE, UH, FAMILY VIOLENCE CALL QUESTIONED ZHAR CO GUANAJUATO ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN HER AND CRENSHAW.
UH, I DID NOTICE ON BODY-WORN CAMERA THAT WHEN ZAHAR CO GUANAJUATO WAS BEING TRANSPORTED BY AMBULANCE TO THE HOSPITAL, OFFICER JOHNSON, WHO WAS RIDING IN THE BACK OF THE AMBULANCE, STARTED A CONVERSATION WITH HER.
OFFICER JOHNSON ASKED IF SHE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND THE, UM, A CONVERSATION ENSUED.
UM, BUT THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS REGARDING EITHER ONE OF THEM ASSAULTING THE OTHER.
HE WAS JUST, HE WAS JUST TRYING TO PASS TIME IT LOOKED LIKE.
AND THAT CONVERSATION ALSO TOOK PLACE WHILE ZA HARKO GUANAJUATO WAS IN HANDCUFFS AND HAD ALREADY BEEN TOLD THAT SHE HAD BEEN ARRESTED AT THE HOSPITAL.
ZARKO GUANAJUATO WAS BEING WATCHED BY OFFICER VEGA AND OFFICER ERS AT ONE POINT, ZARKO GUANAJUATO WAS WHEELED BY GURNEY TO AN IMAGING ROOM AND MEDICAL STAFF EMPLOYEE ASKED BOTH OFFICERS WHAT SHE WAS BEING ARRESTED FOR.
AFTERWARDS EXPLAINED TO THE MEDICAL STAFF THAT SHE WAS ARRESTED FOR FAMILY VIOLENCE.
THE MEDICAL STAFF ASKED IF THE POSSIBLE STRANGULATION MARKS ON ZAHAR GUANAJUATO WERE CAUSED BY SELF-DEFENSE FROM THE OTHER PARTY.
OFFICER SIFERS RESPONDED TO THIS COMMENT BY SAYING HE HASN'T TAKEN ANY PHOTOS BUT WILL TAKE SOME.
UM, THERE WERE NO POLICE REPORTS OR PHOTOGRAPHS FOUND THAT INDICATED ANY POSSIBLE STRANGULATION MARKS ON ZARKO GUANAJUATO.
UM, ZARKO GUANAJUATO ALSO COMPLAINED THAT WHEN A FEMALE OFFICER WAS GOING TO TAKE HER TO THE RESTROOM, A MALE OFFICER STOPPED HER AND STATED THAT HE NEEDED TO GO FIRST.
SO, HARKO GUANAJUATO EXPLAINED THAT THIS MALE OFFICER WAS NOT ONE OF THE OFFICERS WHO HAD BEEN WATCHING HER AT THE HOSPITAL THAT NIGHT.
SO, HARKO GUANAJUATO THEN USED THE RESTROOM AFTERWARDS, AND SHE SAID THERE'S URINE ALL OVER THE FLOOR AND TOILET SEAT.
UH, A REVIEW OF THE BODY-WORN CAMERA FROM, UM, THE OFFICER THAT ESCORTED ZAHAR GUANAJUATO TO THE, UH, RESTROOM, REVEALED THAT IT WAS NOT A POLICE OFFICER THAT HAD USED THE RESTROOM PRIOR TO ZAHAR GUANAJUATO.
IT APPEARED TO BE A, A HOSPITAL EMPLOYEE WITH SOMEONE WEARING SCRUBS WITH AN ID.
UM, THERE WAS NO INDICATION OF ANY POLICE OFFICER THAT STOPPED HER PRIOR AND, UM, TRIED TO USE THE RESTROOM FIRST.
SO, HARKER GUANAJUATO SUBMITTED MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION FROM BAYLOR UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER, UM, AND THAT DOCUMENTATION STATED THAT THE PATIENT WAS ASSAULTED BY HER BOYFRIEND.
UH, THE PATIENT WAS NOTED TO HAVE A BITE MARK ON HER ABDOMEN, AND THE PATIENT STATED HER BOYFRIEND HAD SCRATCHED HER NECK, BUT WAS UNSURE IF SHE HAD BEEN STRANGLED.
AND NONE OF THIS INFORMATION WAS IN THE POLICE REPORT ON OCTO ON APRIL 9TH.
UM, I INTERVIEWED ZAGO GUANAJUATO AND SHE ADVISED THAT SHE HAD MADE A SEPARATE POLICE REPORT, UM, INDICATING HER SIDE OF THE STORY.
SO I INQUIRED ABOUT THAT POLICE REPORT, AND THAT SHOWED IT WAS REPORTED BACK ON MARCH 3RD, 2025.
AND IT INCLUDED ZA HARKO GUANA MACHO STATEMENT OF THE INCIDENT, UM, FROM THE ORIGINAL INCIDENT BACK ON JUNE 13TH, 2024.
AND THAT POLICE REPORT ALSO DOCUMENTED.
UM, IT REFERRED TO THE ORIGINAL POLICE REPORT AND INDICATED THAT IN THAT ORIGINAL POLICE REPORT, NO STATEMENT WAS EVER TAKEN FROM HER.
UH, ZA HAR GUANAJUATO COMPLAINED OF THE EXCESSIVE POLICE RESPONSE TO THIS INCIDENT.
AND THE INFORMATION THE POLICE HAD WHEN THEY RESPONDED TO THIS INCIDENT WAS A FEMALE CUTTING HERSELF WITH A KNIFE AND HAVING ACCESS TO A FIREARM.
UM, I ATTEMPTED TO INTERVIEW OFFICER MOLEN, OFFICER VEGA AND OFFICER ERS FOR THIS INVESTIGATION.
HOWEVER, ALL THREE DECLINED TO BE INTERVIEWED.
UH, FINDINGS AGAINST OFFICER MOLEN CUP ARE BASED ON HIS POLICE REPORT, WHICH DID NOT CONTAIN INJURIES FOUND
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ON ZARKO GUANAJUATO THAT WERE LATER DISCOVERED AT THE HOSPITAL.THE REPORT ALSO DID NOT CA CONTAIN A FULL INVESTIGATION TO THE INCI INCIDENT TO INCLUDE A STATEMENT FROM ZAHAR GUANAJUATO.
THIS LACK OF INVESTIGATION IS SUPPORTED BY THE, UM, SECOND POLICE REPORT TAKEN BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE FINDINGS ON OFFICER ERS AND OFFICER VEGA ARE BASED ON THE BODY-WORN CAMERA VIDEO, WHICH SHOWED MEDICAL STAFF INFORMING THEM OF INJURIES TO ZAHAR OF GUANAJUATO, WHICH WERE NOT PHOTOGRAPHED OR DOCUMENTED IN THE REPORT.
AND REGARDING THE COMPLAINT OF URINE ON THE FLOOR, UNLIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, IT WAS NOT A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER INVOLVED IN THAT INCIDENT.
UM, AND WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE CONDITION OF THAT RESTROOM WAS PRIOR TO HER ENTERING OR PRIOR TO ANY OTHER PERSON, UH, GOING IN THERE.
AND REGARDING THE COMPLAINT OF EXCESSIVE POLICE RESPONSE, THE OCPO DID NOT SEE ANY POLICY VIOLATIONS IN THIS RESPONSE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO THE, UH, POLICIES WE LOOKED AT WERE, UM, IN THE GENERAL ORDERS WHERE SECTION 3 0 7, WHERE IT STATES OFFICERS HAVING REASON TO BELIEVE THAT AN OFFENSE INVOLVING FAMILY VIOLENCE HAS OCCURRED, WE'LL SUBMIT AN OFFENSE REPORT AND INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION, WHICH IS A DESCRIPTION OF THE INJURIES.
AND THE OTHER SECTION WE LOOKED AT WAS SECTION 5.3 OF THE CODE OF CONDUCT, WHICH STATES ELEMENTS WILL INVESTIGATE THOSE INCIDENTS AND SIGNED, WHICH COME TO THEIR ATTENTION TO THE FULLEST EXTENT WITHIN THEIR ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITIES.
UH, SO OUR RECOMMENDED FINDINGS FOR OFFICER MOLEN CUP FOR ALLEGATION NUMBER ONE OF FAILING TO DESCRIBE INJURIES WERE SUSTAINED FOR ALLEGATION NUMBER TWO OF FAILURE TO INVESTIGATE.
THAT WAS SUSTAINED, UM, ALLEGATION FOR OFFICER CHANDLER ERS FOR FAILING TO DESCRIBE INJURIES WAS SUSTAINED.
AND ALLEGATION FOR ROBERT, OFFICER ROBERT ZA VEGA FAILURE TO DESCRIBE INJURIES WAS ALSO SUSTAINED THE O-C-U-P-O RECOMMENDED POLICY OR, UM, DISCIPLINARY IN CONNECTION WITH THE SUSTAINED ALLEGATIONS.
UM, WE HAD, WE REVIEWED THE, UM, INTERNAL OR THE GENERAL ORDER, WHICH STATES FOR INTERNAL AFFAIRS THAT COMPLAINTS RELATIVE TO DIFFERENCES OF OPINION BETWEEN CITIZEN AND ARRESTING POLICE OFFICER REGARDING THE GUILT OR INNOCENCE OF THAT CITIZEN WILL NOT BE INVESTIGATED, BUT WILL BE PROPERLY DISPOSED OF WITHIN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM.
IT GOES ON TO SAY, IF A CITIZEN CAN FURNISH SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE, UM, THAT THE ARREST WAS MALICIOUS AND OR ILLEGAL, THE COMPLAINT MAY BE INVESTIGATED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION COMMANDER.
WE LOOKED AT THIS POLICY 'CAUSE THIS WAS WHAT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS USED TO, UM, TO DENY AN INVESTIGATION FOR THE COMPLAINANT.
UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR COMPLAINT, UM, INIT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION INITIALLY DETERMINED THAT INVESTIGATION WAS NOT NECESSARY, UH, CATEGORIZING THE COMPLAINT AS A MATTER OF GUILT OR INNOCENCE.
AND ACCORDING TO THE RELEVANT POLICY, UH, HOWEVER, THE OFFICE OF OCPO ASSERTS THAT THE COMPLAINT BROUGHT TO LIGHT POTENTIAL MISCONDUCT RELATED TO THE FAILURE TO ACCURATELY DOCUMENT THE COMPLAINANT'S INJURIES, UM, AND, UM, POTENTIAL MISCONDUCT, UM, I'M SORRY, AND THE INVESTIGATION CONDUCTED BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS COMPLAINT DOES NOT SOLELY PERTAIN TO DIFFERING OPINIONS REGARDING GUILT OR INNOCENCE, UH, SURROUNDING THE ARREST.
UH, THE O-C-O-P-O ALSO EXPRESSES SIGNIFICANCE CONCERN REGARDING THE POTENTIAL IMPLICATIONS FOR FUTURE COMPLAINTS INVOLVING ARRESTS OR CITATIONS, PARTICULARLY THOSE RELATING TO THE ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT THAT MAY BE PREMATURELY DISMISSED, UM, OR CATEGORIZED SOLELY AS GUILT OR INNOCENCE.
UH, THEREFORE, THEREFORE, UH, RESULTING IN A LACK OF THOROUGH INVESTIGATION TO INDICATE THIS ISSUE.
UH, THE OCPO RECOMMENDS THAT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION APPLY THE STANDARD OUTLINED IN THE INITIAL SENTENCE OF THE POLICY, RATHER THAN ADOPTING A BROAD INTERPRETATION THAT INFLUENCES DETERMINATION REGARDING GUILT OR INNOCENCE.
AND FURTHERMORE, WITH RESPECT TO THE SECOND SENTENCE OF THE POLICY, THE O-C-O-P-O ADVOCATES FOR COLLABORATION WITH DPD TO REFINE THE LANGUAGE, WHICH SUGGESTS THAT EVEN WHEN THERE IS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE INDICATING AN ILLEGAL OR MALICIOUS ARREST, THE I, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION MAY OPT NOT TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION TO FOSTER COMMUNITY TRUST AND ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY.
THE OCPO RECOMMENDS REVISING THE POLICY TO UNEQUIVOCALLY STATE THAT THE CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OF ILLEGAL OR MALICIOUS POLICE CONDUCT WILL BE A PROMPT AND FORMAL INVESTIGATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, INVESTIGATOR HUFF.
I WANNA OPENING THIS UP AT THIS TIME TO THE BOARD TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION.
YES, MR. NER? Y YEAH, I'M, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE.
YOU, WE AUTHORIZED AN INVESTIGATION, YOU'VE DONE
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THE INVESTIGATION, YOU HAVE YOUR FINDINGS HERE.SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING FURTHER FOR US AS A BOARD TO DO, IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK YOU WILL VOTE ON WHETHER YOU'LL AGREE WITH THE FINDINGS OR NOT.
WE NEED TO APPROVE, WE'LL NEED A MOTION EVENTUALLY TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS.
WELL, THAT'S SORT OF MY NEXT QUESTION THEN, AND THAT IS, UM, I ASSUME THAT THESE WILL BE SENT TO ID, UM, MAJOR GREER HAS THE REPORT.
I I ASSUME YOU TALKED TO HIM OR WILL TALK TO THEM, ASSUMING WE APPROVED THE FINDINGS.
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, NUMBER ONE, WILL WE BE ADVISED OF ANY DISCIPLINE THAT WAS, UH, APPLIED AS A RESULT OF THIS? AND TWO, WHETHER THERE ARE ANY CHANGES IN THE, UM, GENERAL ORDERS AS RECOMMENDED BY THE INVESTIGATOR AND, AND US IF WE APPROVE IT.
NOW, THE CHANGES, I'M SORRY, THE CHANGES TO ANY GENERAL ORDERS OR ANY POLICIES OR ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA BE AN ONGOING CONVERSATION, THAT'S NOT ANYTHING, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK THAT WE COULD, UH, WELL, I'M ASKING IF IT OCCURS, WILL YOU LET US KNOW? ABSOLUTELY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION FOR INVESTIGATOR OR MAJOR GREER BEFORE WE RECEIVE A MOTION? YES, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.
UH, MR. HII APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, INVESTIGATION.
UM, SINCE THE OFFICERS REFUSE TO RESPOND TO YOUR INQUIRY, WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WOULD NOT, WHEN SHE MADE THE 9 1 1 CALL, WHY THEY DID NOT ASK HER FIRST WHAT HAPPENED, CORRECT? YES.
I, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT, BUT WAS UNABLE TO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THAT SEEMS UNUSUAL IF I MAKE A NINE ONE ONE CALL AND THEN NOBODY ASKED ME A QUESTION.
AND, AND TO BE CLEAR, THE MALE, HALF THE JOHN CRENSHAW MADE THE PHONE CALL.
NOT, NOT, UM, TIFFANY ZAHAR WANNA WATCH.
OH, I THOUGHT SHE MADE THE 9 1 1 CALL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF CLARIFICATION? YES, MS. KING, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UH, WE'VE COME A LONG WAY IN HELPING VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE FIND THEIR VOICE AND HAVE JUSTICE.
AND THIS, THIS CASE SEEMS TO BRING UP MAYBE SOME OF THE SHORTCOMINGS WE STILL HAVE AND WE NEED TO OVERCOME WITH HOW OUR OFFICERS ARE TRAINED TO HANDLE VERY, UH, EMOTIONAL SITUATIONS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHO'S WHAT, WHAT THE REAL STORY IS.
AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS, UH, A PRESSURE COOKER FOR EVERY OFFICER, THEIR RESPONSE.
BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IN THIS CASE, THAT, UH, THE YOUNG WOMAN DIDN'T FIND, HAVE A VOICE WITH, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO I DO HOPE THAT THAT RESULTS IN A CHANGE OF POLICY THAT GIVES GREATER VOICE TO BOTH SIDES OF, OF A CALL, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL.
AND THAT IN THIS CASE WITH THE GENTLEMAN, BUT IT SEEMS THAT POSSIBLY THE WOMAN WAS THE VICTIM.
AND SO WE HAVE A POLICY CHANGE AND THAT WE HAVE MORE TRAINING FOR OUR OFFICERS BECAUSE IT USED TO BE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THIS IS LIKE THE SEVENTIES AND BEFORE, IT'S NOT MY PROBLEM.
SO WE'RE NOT THERE ANYMORE, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, VICTIMS HAVE A VOICE AND THAT THEY'RE NOT FURTHER VICTIMIZED.
SO, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, UH, APPROPRIATE TO BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION TO THE, WHAT WE HAVE.
IS THAT APPROPRIATE? IS THAT OKAY? YES, PLEASE PROCEED.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA, UM, SPEAK ON THE, THE TYPE OF CALL THIS WAS.
THIS WAS A, UH, WHAT'S CALLED A, I THINK WE HAD THE RIGHT CARE TEAM HERE THE OTHER DAY.
UH, AND IT WAS ONE THAT WAS, UH, DISPATCHED PRIORITY ONE, WHICH MEANS LIGHTS AND SIREN.
THE RIGHT CARE TEAM DID RESPOND TO THIS CASE.
UH, AND THIS PARTICULAR CALL, WHEN THEY ARRIVED, UH, THE COMPLAINANT, THE, OR, UH, MS. TIFFANY, UH, SHE WAS THERE WITH SELF-INFLICTED, UH, WOUNDS ON BOTH ARMS. UH, THE COMPLAINANT, UH, THE MALE, HE RAN OUT OF THE HOUSE, CALLED THE POLICE, AND REPORTED THAT SHE WAS THERE AND POSSIBLY WAS ARMED WITH A GUN.
THAT, THAT PROMPTED THE RESPONSE.
UM, UH, THE MALE, HE HAD VIDEO OF THE ASSAULT, UM, OF HER ASSAULTING HIM.
THE OFFICERS WATCHED THAT VIDEO, UM, UH, BEFORE THEY ARRESTED HER.
THEY MADE A DETERMINATION, AS IN ALL FAMILY VIOLENCE.
UH, THE, THE, THE ARREST IS, UM, UM, OUR POLICY IS THE APPROPRIATE CHOICE WHEN ANY, UH, MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, HAS OUTCRY OF FAMILY VIOLENCE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STOP FAMILY VIOLENCE.
UH, THE MALE, UM, SHOWED HIM THE VIDEO.
UM, SHE WAS THERE, FIRE, FIRE, UH, PARAMEDICS TREATED HER FOR HER WOUNDS.
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OF THIS PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THE OFFICERS WERE THERE, UH, I THINK MR. HUFF MENTIONED IN THE AMBULANCE RIDE ALL THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL TO HAVE BAYLOR TAKE A LOOK AT HER INJURIES AND DOCUMENT EVERY INJURY THAT SHE RECEIVED AND PROVIDE MEDICAL ATTENTION TO HER.UM, DURING THAT WHOLE AMBULANCE RIDE, THE OFFICER OF COURSE ASKED HER WHAT OCCURRED.
SHE MENTIONED NOTHING ABOUT, UH, BEING ASSAULTED.
UM, I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW IN THIS CASE, THAT THIS CASE CAME TO IED MORE THAN SEVEN MONTHS AFTER THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED.
UH, SO SEVEN MONTHS, NO ONE KNEW THAT SHE, UH, UH, NOT IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, KNEW THAT SHE WAS ASSAULTED.
UM, IED GOT THIS CASE, UH, FAR BEYOND WHAT WE NORMALLY SAY IS A 60 DAY RULE FOR CASES.
THERE'S SOME EXCEPTION TO THAT.
AND WE, WE CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THOSE WHEN IT'S A, A REASONABLE, UH, TIME.
YOU HAVE SOME REASONABLE, UH, REASON WHY YOU DIDN'T MAKE IT DOWN THERE.
BUT THIS WAS A FULL SEVEN MONTHS AFTER, UM, OUR COMPLAINANT, MS. TIFFANY WALKED INTO HEADQUARTERS SEVEN MONTHS AFTER, AND THE OFFICER THERE TOOK THE REPORT, WHICH OFFICERS ARE TRAINED TO DO.
UH, SHE TOOK THE REPORT AND, UH, THAT REPORT WAS, UH, GENERATED AND IT WENT TO A FAMILY VIOLENCE DETECTIVE.
BUT, UH, IT'S MY VIEW ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE OFFICERS DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB BECAUSE THEY WERE DEALING, UH, WITH A CIT CALL.
AND YALE WAS A, A VERY LARGE POLICE PRESENCE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING INTO THE UNKNOWN.
AND, UH, BUT THE OFFICERS WERE, WERE EXTREMELY EMPATHETIC AND, AND THEY TREATED HER WITH DIGNITY THAT I SAW IN THE VIDEO.
AND I'VE WATCHED THIS SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE, UH, MYSELF AND THE OFFICE, WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT WORKING WITH THE OFFICE.
WE TALK ABOUT IT AND, AND, AND, AND WE, UH, TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANYTHING.
UH, AND SO I'VE LOOKED AT IT FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT ANGLES, UH, OVER SEVERAL WEEKS.
AND, AND JUST AS LATE, JUST AS RECENTLY AS YESTERDAY, I STILL FEEL THE SAME WAY.
UM, UH, SEVEN MONTHS COUPLED WITH ALL THE OTHER FACTORS.
UH, IT'S CLEAR THAT IN THIS CASE, THE MALE CALLED THE POLICE, HE HAD VIDEO, THE OFFICERS, IF I WAS THERE RIGHT NOW TODAY, I WOULD MAKE THE SAME DECISION.
I THINK THE OFFICERS DID A GREAT JOB ON IT, UH, FOR WHAT IT WAS.
UM, AND FAMILY VIOLENCE IS NEVER SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO, UH, UH, HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE DEAL WITH EVERY DAY.
BUT, UM, UH, THE TRAINING THAT THE OFFICERS DID, UH, MYSELF BEING AN ACADEMY TRAINER, ALL THE TRAINING THAT I SAW THAT I WOULD WANT IN EVERY OFFICER, THOSE OFFICERS PERFORMED.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CONTEXT WITH, WITH THE CHAIRMAN.
I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MAJOR GREER.
MAJOR GREER, WHAT IT SAYS IN THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT IS SHE WAITED TO FILE HER, UM, INTERNAL AFFAIRS COMPLAINT UNTIL THE CRIMINAL CHARGES WERE DROPPED AGAINST HER.
THAT'S WHY SHE WAITED SEVEN MONTHS.
BUT NOW IT WASN'T A SITUATION THAT THEY, OF COURSE, UM, SEVERAL OF YOU ATTORNEYS THERE, THINGS WERE DROPPED FOR DIFFERENT WEIGHT REASONS.
THIS WASN'T ANYTHING THAT REASON WHY.
AND, UH, UH, FROM THE PROSECUTOR, IT WAS A CONDITIONAL, AND, AND I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A COURT THING, BUT, UM, IT WASN'T, UH, WHERE I WENT TO TRIAL AND, AND, AND FINISHED IT.
SO, MAJOR, UH, CHAIRMAN, YES, PLEASE.
IS IT, IS IT YOUR POSITION THAT, UM, DURING THE ENTIRE, UH, INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE, WHEN THE OFFICERS SHOWED UP THROUGH THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION THROUGH THE HOSPITAL, SHE NEVER ONE TIME SAID THAT SHE HAD BEEN ASSAULTED DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME? SHE DID NOT.
UH, THE ONLY CO TESTIMONY THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, THE POSSIBLE SCRATCH, I THINK SHE EVEN SAYS HERE.
AND THAT'S BASED ON THE, UH, BAYLOR TESTIMONY THAT HER BOYFRIEND MIGHT HAVE SCRATCHED HER, BUT WASN'T, WASN'T SURE IF SHE WAS STRANGLED.
BUT SHE NEVER SAID THAT HE ASSAULTED ME.
I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION.
SO THIS WAS A PRIORITY ONE CALL? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND W RIGHTCARE WENT AS WELL? YES, SIR, THEY DID.
SO, SO THIS BRINGS UP A, A QUESTION THAT I'M, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.
SO IF IT'S A PRIOR, A PRIORITY ONE, CIT AND W RIGHTCARE SHOWS UP, DOES RIGHT CARE STAND DOWN? OR HOW DO THEY, HOW DO THEY MAKE THEIR DIAGNOSIS AS TO HOW THIS SHOULD BE HANDLED? WELL, LET ME, LEMME SAY THIS.
UM, THE, THE CRIMINAL CONDUCT IS ABOVE THE, THE, THE MENTAL ISSUE.
THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE THE MENTAL ISSUE OR THE, THE, THE, THE, THAT ASPECT CAN BE HANDLED AT, UH, LUSTER.
THEY HAVE THE SAME FACILITIES AND SAME, UH, CAPABILITIES AS WE, IF WE TOOK THEM TO PARKLAND.
AND SO IF, UM, ONE CITIZEN WAS A CRIMINAL ACT OCCURRED AGAINST YOU, WE FOUND THAT THAT, UH, PERSON, THE PERPETRATOR MAY NEED SOME, UH, GO TO RIGHT CARE.
THE, THE CRIMINAL ACT WOULD TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER,
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UH, THE, THE, THE RIGHT CARE.SO, UH, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY STAND DOWN, BUT THE RIGHT CARE DID RESPOND TO THE HOSPITAL WITH, WITH, UH, MS. TIFFANY.
AND, UM, AND THEY'RE SEEN THERE, I GUESS FOR SUPPORT AND JUST IN CASE THEY NEEDED IT.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CLARIFICATION TO MAJOR GREER OR INVESTIGATOR HUFF? IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS? I, I, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
SO, SO BASED ON THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, BASED ON THE CLARIFICATION THAT MAJOR GREER GAVE AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, IS THAT SUFFICIENT? LIKE, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO GAUGE THE BODY BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENCE OF OPINIONS AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS REALLY BIG, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO, TO HAVE ATTENTION DRAWN TO IT.
BUT BASED ON THE SITUATION AND BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED, WOULD THAT BE A SUFFICIENT ENOUGH ANSWER TO SATISFIES THE INQUIRIES ABOUT THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE? OR HOW DO WE TYPICALLY GAUGE THAT? BECAUSE IT DOES, IT IS PRETTY AMBIGUOUS AND IT CAN BE LEFT, YOU KNOW, UP TO INTERPRETATION BASED ON ONE'S EXPERIENCE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
BUT I'M JUST ASKING FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO PRESENTED THOSE QUESTIONS SO I CAN KIND OF GAUGE THE TEMPERATURE.
YEAH, WE CAN, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, MR. HUFF TO RESPOND AND BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE WHO, UH, DID THE INVESTIGATION AND, AND HIS CONCLUSIONS ARE PRETTY SPECIFIC IN FIRM, MR. HUFF, IT'D BE INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT MAJOR GRUER SAID, ANYTHING THAT YOU'D ADD TO YOUR REPORT.
YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I THINK THE STANCE THAT OCPO IS NOT THAT THE ARREST WAS WRONG OR ANYTHING, IT JUST SIMPLY, IT WAS AN INCOMPLETE INVESTIGATION.
OFFICERS RESPONDED, ENSURE THEY CONTACTED THE PERSON WHO CALLED THE POLICE, BUT IT'S A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION.
UM, THERE'S ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO A STORY, BUT THEY, THEY SOLELY FOCUSED ON, ON THE COMPLAINANT WHO CALLED, THEY, THEY TALKED TO HIM, ENSURE HE SHOWED A VIDEO ON HIS PHONE.
IT WAS A, IT SHOWED A PORTION OF A INCIDENT BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM.
UM, AND IT DID SHOW AN ASSAULT WAS OCCURRING.
BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S A VERY BRIEF VIDEO.
IT DOESN'T SHOW THE WHOLE FROM START TO FINISH OF, OF THIS ASSAULT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED, UM, ON THAT.
SO I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT BY THE OFFICERS TO DO A FULL INVESTIGATION AND CONTACT THE OTHER PARTY WHO IS RIGHT THERE AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GIVE THEIR SIDE THE STORY, TO UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT HAPPENED.
SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OF WHO THE AGGRESSOR WAS AND, AND BE SURE ON THE ARREST, UH, THAT YOU'RE MAKING THE PROPER ARREST.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF.
SO, INVESTIGATOR HUFF, WHEN YOU REVIEWED ALL OF THIS AND OBVIOUSLY DID A VERY LENGTHY, UH, DISCUSSION WITH HER, NOTHING CAME OUT THAT SHE OR YOU FOUND NO DOCUMENTATION THAT HER VERSION OF WHAT HAPPENED WAS EVER DOCUMENTED.
IS THAT CORRECT? IT WAS DOCUMENTED LATER WHEN SHE WENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WELL, I'M NOT, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST INCIDENT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
WHEN SHE WAS TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL, SHE WAS NOT INTERVIEWED FOR HER SIDE OF THE STORY THAT CAME WHEN THE SECOND POLICE REPORT WAS FILED, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND TO CLARIFY TOO, INVESTIGATOR, YOU'RE SAYING THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH SHE DIDN'T MENTION AT ALL THAT SHE HAD BEEN A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC ABUSE, EVEN THOUGH SHE DIDN'T MENTION IT, THAT YOU FEEL THAT THE OFFICERS SHOULD HAVE ASKED THE QUESTION REGARDLESS OF HER TALKING ABOUT IT.
YOU ALWAYS WANT TO ASK AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED, UM, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A COMPLAINANT SAYING THAT HE WAS ASSAULTED.
SO IT'S IN, YOU KNOW, IT'S STANDARD PROCEDURE THAT YOU CONTACT THE OTHER PARTY AND SAY, DID YOU ASSAULT THIS PERSON? YOU KNOW, EV EVEN IF SHE NEVER SAID SHE WAS ASSAULTED, YOU'RE STILL GONNA INQUIRE ABOUT WHAT THIS ORIGINAL COMPLAINANT HAD SAID AND CONFIRM HIS SIDE.
YOU KNOW, HEY, WHAT DID SHE, IS SHE GONNA ADMIT TO ASSAULTING HIM? IF SHE DOES, THAT'S GREAT EVIDENCE FOR YOUR, YOUR CASE.
ANY OTHER FUR? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION BEFORE WE RECEIVE A MOTION? YES, MR. HIGGINS, I, I WOULD LIKE US TO REVISIT, UH, BOARDMAN JACKSON'S COMP, UH, QUESTION.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK, UH, IT WAS, THAT QUESTION WAS ACTUALLY ANSWERED COMPLETELY AM IS THAT CORRECT? TIM? S SO I, AGAIN, AND I APPRECIATE YOU FOR REPHRASING IT.
UM, I THINK MY QUESTION WAS MORE SO TO THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO INQUIRED MORE ABOUT AS TO WHY, UM, THE FEMALE, UM, I
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CAN SAY VICTIM, RIGHT? THE, THE FEMALE THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE SITUATION WAS NOT ASKED IF SHE WAS ASSAULTED, RIGHT? SO I, I THINK THAT BASED ON WHAT WAS CONVEYED TO US BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT EVERYTHING WAS DONE BASED ON THE PROTOCOL, BASED ON WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE FROM A TEXTBOOK STANDPOINT.AND SEVEN MONTHS LATER, MORE INFORMATION WAS BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.
CORRECT? UM, BUT I I, I, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I DON'T KNOW THE FULL SITUATION, I WASN'T THERE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IF, IF A PERSON DOESN'T INDICATE THAT THEY WERE BEING ASSAULTED WHEN ASKED, UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE EXPECTATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET THEM TO PROVIDE A STATEMENT OR FEEL COMFORTABLE MAYBE WITH PROVIDING A STATEMENT, UM, IN SUCH A WAY THAT WON'T, THAT WILL, I GUESS, ABSOLVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF SAYING, HEY, AT LEAST WE DID IT.
YOU KNOW, WE ASKED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
BUT AGAIN, I'M, I'M ASKING FOR THE TEMPERATURE OF THE BOARD BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T ASKED, THEN I CAN SEE WHY THERE'S A CONCERN.
BUT ALSO I'LL, I'LL SAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, IF IT WASN'T, IF I WERE BEING ARRESTED FOR SOMETHING, I'D GIVE MY SIDE THE STORY
BUT I CAN'T ASSUME THAT THE PERSON'S GONNA HAVE MY TAKE.
RIGHT? SO HOW CAN THEY THEN, IS, IS IT SIMPLY THEM ASKING HER FIRMLY TO GIVE A STATEMENT SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE SURE THAT ALL I'S, ARE DOTTED AND T'S ARE CROSSED THAT WILL SATISFY THAT? UM, PROBABLY SO.
AND I'LL, AND I'LL SAY THAT TRAUMA AFFECTS EVERY PERSON DIFFERENTLY.
AND SO IF YOU'RE TRAUMATIZED, AND I'M NOT ADJUDICATING THAT SHE WAS TRAUMATIZED OR NOT, AND THAT SHE'S IN THE RIGHT OR THE WRONG, I'M JUST SAYING BROADLY SPEAKING, SOMEONE WHO IS TRAUMATIZED, WHETHER IT'S HIM OR HER, IS NOT GONNA NECESSARILY REMEMBER EVERYTHING THAT JUST TRANSPIRED CORRECTLY.
AND IF SHE GOT CHOKED, AS THIS SAID, SHE MIGHT HAVE, SHE MAY NOT REMEMBER BECAUSE SHE MIGHT HAVE PASSED OUT BRIEFLY AND JUST DIDN'T REMEMBER.
OR AGAIN, THAT TRAUMA, UM, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE OFFICE MAKE IN THIS, UM, AND HIS AND, UH, INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S, UH, SUMMARY ARE, MAKE ME FEEL BETTER.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS, I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT THEY'RE THE BIG BAD WOLF HERE.
I THINK THEY HAVE VERY GOOD TRAINING, THEY HAVE VERY GOOD INTENTIONS, AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A COUPLE MORE STEPS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE OFFICE OUTLINES HERE.
AND I THINK I, I AGREE WITH IT AND I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE, UH, INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S FINDINGS.
UM, BUT YES, I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT I LEARNED FROM MAJOR GREER AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S, IT'S HARD TO KNOW SEVEN MONTHS LATER ALL THE THINGS WITH THESE FINDINGS, THOUGH.
I THINK MOVING FORWARD MAYBE WE CAN BE BETTER AT A FUTURE SIMILAR SITUATION.
DOES THAT HELP? NO, THAT DOES MAKE SENSE.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M JUST, I KNOW THAT OUR BOARD IS OVERSIGHT.
UM, SO IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE WILL WANT TO CREATE A WIN-WIN SITUATION WHERE WE PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND IT'S IMPLEMENTED IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, RESPOND TO SET OVERSIGHT.
BUT I, I JUST FELT LIKE THE, THE WAY WE WERE WALKING AWAY BEFORE WE MADE THIS VOTE, THAT IT WAS JUST A SITUATION WHERE WE WERE KIND OF LEAVING
HOW WE MOVE FORWARD THERE, THERE'LL BE SOME TIME FOR US TO DISCUSS MORE ABOUT HOW WE FEEL.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION TO MAJOR GREER? SO, UH, YES.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND THE MOTION HAS BEEN TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS AND, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO WORK WITH THE IAD TO PUT POTENTIALLY MAKE A MOTION.
WELL, WELL, I'LL TAKE THAT BACK THEN.
THERE HAS BEEN NO MOTION MADE.
I MISHEARD YOU, UH, MS. KING, I APOLOGIZE.
THAT'S WHEN I, SO, ONE THING AS FAR AS PROCEDURE, ONE THING THAT COULD HELP, UH, ONCE A MOTION'S MADE, AND THE SECOND, THEN WE AS A BOARD CAN DISCUSS HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT, AND THEN WE CAN, WE CAN VOTE, UH, BASED ON THAT.
UM, AND, UH, IT CAN BE OF COURSE, APPROVED OR, OR NOT, UH, APPROVED.
SO IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOTION OKAY.
AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION.
MAY I ASK THE QUESTION TO MAJOR GREER BEFORE WE MAKE THAT MOTION? SURE.
IS IT THE POLICY OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A INVESTIGATION OR AN INITIAL, UH, CALL ON THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO ASK BOTH PARTIES THEIR INFORMATION? ABSOLUTELY.
BUT NOW THE FORM OF THAT QUESTION, UH, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, I'VE NEVER ASKED A, A COMPLAINANT, HEY, WERE YOU ASSAULTED? UH, NORMALLY I ASK, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED TONIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE OFFICERS ARE TRAINED TO, TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
WAS THAT QUESTION ASKED OF THE, UH, WOMAN? ABSOLUTELY.
IT CLEARLY SHOWS THAT HIM ASKING HER IN THE AMBULANCE.
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YOU WANT TO TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED? OKAY.SEEN THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OF CLARIFICATION.
IF YOU, ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, AND THERE'D BE SECONDED, THEN THERE'LL BE ANOTHER TIME FOR US TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW WE FEEL AS BOARD MEMBERS ABOUT THIS AND ASK ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
IS THERE A MOTION? UH, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I MOVE TO ACCEPT INVESTIGATOR HEPPS FINDINGS, UM, AS PRESENTED IN OUR NOTEBOOK, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS AS PRESENTED.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY MR. JACKSON.
ARE THERE, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE, UH, WANNA SHARE, UH, THEIR OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? SEEING THAT THERE, UH, IS NO DISCUSSION, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, MOVE TO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
UM, AND IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING MR. HUFF'S REPORT AS PRESENTED, YAY.
IF YOU ARE NOT IN FAVOR, NAY, WE'LL BEGIN WITH DISTRICT ONE AND GO DOWN.
OH, SORRY, BRIAN, YOU'RE ON MUTE.
WAS THAT YAY OR NAY? LOOKED LIKE A YEAH, IT LOOKED LIKE A NAY.
IF I WAS A LIP READER, IF I WAS A LIP READER, I WOULD'VE FAILED THAT.
UH, DISTRICT SIX, DISTRICT SIX.
THE MOTION PASSES AND WE AS A BOARD HAVE APPROVED, UH, THE FINDINGS FROM INVESTIGATOR HUFF.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS DISCUSSION WITH IAD.
LET'S MOVE ON, UH, TO THE NEXT INVESTIGATION.
UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MR. HUFF.
THE NEXT, UH, COMPLAINT CAME FROM ABDUL SAMAD.
UM, YOU RECALL BACK ON DECEMBER 23RD, 2024, ABDUL SAMAL FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED THE PREVIOUS DAY.
SIMONE HAD REPORTED THAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN A COLLISION IN WHICH THE PASSENGER OF THE OPPOSING VEHICLE ALLEGEDLY SWITCHED SEATS FALSELY CLAIMING TO BE THE DRIVER.
HE ALSO STATED THAT A SEPARATE VEHICLE ARRIVED AT THE SCENE, MADE THREATS, AND ATTEMPTED TO RUN HIM OVER.
SAMAD EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION THAT THE RESPONDING OFFICERS FAILED TO TAKE ANY ACTION REGARDING THESE CONCERNS.
UM, THAT COMPLAINT WENT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS, AND THEY RESPONDED BY SAYING THAT THEY CANNOT ESTABLISH A VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, AND THEY DID NOT CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION.
UM, THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE INVESTIGATION THAT I CONDUCTED, UH, REVIEW OF THE BODY-WORN CAMERA SHOWED ABDUL SMAD CLEARLY STATING TO OFFICER MEDINA CERVANTES, AND CORPORAL MARTINEZ, THAT THE FEMALE WAS NOT THE DRIVER, AND THAT THE MALE DRIVER HAD LEFT THE SCENE.
A REVIEW OF THE POLICE REPORTS SHOWED NO MENTION OF A POSSIBLE DRIVER SWITCH, AND I HAD PULLED THREE DIFFERENT POLICE REPORTS.
ONE WAS A CRASH REPORT, UM, DONE ON DECEMBER 22ND, 2024, WRITTEN BY, UM, OFFICER MEDINA CERVANTES, IN WHICH HE, UM, LISTS IRIS CASTRO AS THE DRIVER OF ONE VEHICLE AND ABDUL SAMAD AS THE DRIVER OF ANOTHER VEHICLE.
AND NO PASSENGERS WERE LISTED IN THAT REPORT.
UM, INCLUDED WITH THAT REPORT IS A MISCELLANEOUS INCIDENT REPORT WRITTEN BY OFFICER MEDINA CERVANTES, AND THAT REPORT DOCUMENTED SAM'S CLAIM THAT A SEPARATE VEHICLE ARRIVED AT THE SCENE AND MADE THREATENING GESTURES.
AND THEN ON JANUARY 13TH, 2025, AN ASSAULT REPORT WAS TAKEN.
UM, THIS WAS AUTHORED BY CORPORAL MARTINEZ.
THIS REPORT ALSO ADDRESSED THE ALLEGED ATTEMPT ASSAULT ON SAMAD WITH, UH, WITH THAT VEHICLE THAT ARRIVED ON THE SCENE LATER.
AND CORPORAL MARTINEZ DOCUMENTED IN HIS REPORT THAT HE HAD MISUNDERSTOOD SAM'S, UM, INITIAL CLAIM, AND THAT'S WHAT LED TO THIS DELAYED REPORT.
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UH, WHEN I INTERVIEWED ABDUL SMAD, UM, HE ADVISED THAT A DETECTIVE SMITH HAD TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS FOLLOWING UP ON THE ASSAULT CASE, BUT WAS UNABLE TO LOCATE ANY VIDEO.UM, I HAD ALSO ATTEMPTED TO INTERVIEW OFFICER MEDINA CERVANTES AND CORPORAL MARTINEZ, BUT BOTH DECLINED.
THE FINDINGS ON THIS CASE ARE BASED ON THE FOLLOWING.
THE BODY-WORN CAMERA SHOWS ABDU REPORTING THE DRIVER SWITCH TO THE OFFICERS.
THE BODY-WORN CAMERA SHOWS OFFICER MEDINA CERVANTES AND CORPORAL MARTINEZ DISCUSSING THE DRIVER SWITCH.
THE BODY-WORN CAMERA SHOWS SERGEANT EMERSON ADVISING ABDUL SAMAD THAT THE INFORMATION IN THE DRIVER SWITCH WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE REPORT.
UM, AND THEN THE POLICE REPORTS DO NOT INDICATE ANY INFORMATION OF A DRIVER SWITCH BEING ALLEGED.
THE INFORMATION RELATED TO ABDUL SAMAD ALMOST BEING STRUCK BY ANOTHER VEHICLE ON PURPOSE WHILE HE WAS STANDING IN THE PARKING LOT, WAS INCLUDED IN THE POLICE REPORT.
UM, FOR THIS INVESTIGATION, WE LOOKED AT, UM, POLICY, UH, THE CODE OF CONDUCT SECTION 5.3, WHICH SAYS, ELEMENTS WILL INVESTIGATE THOSE INCIDENTS ASSIGNED, OR WHICH COME TO THEIR ATTENTION TO THE FULLEST EXTENT WITH THEIR ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITIES.
FOR OFFICER MEDINA CERVANTES, THE ALLEGATION OF FAILURE TO INVESTIGATE, UH, WE FOUND IT TO BE SUSTAINED.
AND ALSO FOR CORPORAL JONATHAN MARTINEZ FAILURE TO INVESTIGATE.
WE FOUND THAT TO BE SUSTAINED.
UM, THE OCPO, UM, DID NOT MAKE ANY SPECIFIC DISCIPLINARY OR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS INVESTIGATION, HOWEVER, THE OCPO URGES DPT LEADERSHIP TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND SUPERVISORY REVIEW TO ENSURE THOROUGHNESS AND INCIDENT INVESTIGATIONS INVOLVING CONFLICTING WITNESS STATEMENTS.
THANK YOU, INVESTIGATOR MAJOR GREER.
I, IT WAS GREAT TO KIND OF HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT.
DO YOU WANNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR, UM, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE AS WELL? OR WOULD YOU LIKE QUESTIONS FIRST? JUST REAL SHORT.
UH, BUT THE ACCIDENT REPORTS, UM, THEY'RE THE INVESTIGATOR'S OPINION.
UM, AND IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE, IT WAS A SPANISH SPEAKER, AND, UM, WE REVIEWED IT IN THE OFFICE.
BUT ANYWAY, WE REVIEWED IT AND THE, AND THE, THE MR. ASAD SAYS THAT SOMEONE SWITCHED SEATS.
WELL, THE LADY SAYS I WAS THE ONE DRIVING.
AND SO AS A POLICE OFFICER, YOU'RE THERE.
SHE SAYS, I WAS DRIVING, UH, SHE WAS ISSUED A CITATION FOR NO INSURANCE, UH, NO DRIVER'S LICENSE.
UH, MR. ASSAD SAYS, WELL, HEY, SOMEBODY SWITCHED SEATS.
UH, WHAT DO YOU DO? UH, IT'S THAT OFFICER'S OPINION THAT SHE WAS A DRIVER, AND THAT'S WHAT HE WROTE IN HIS ARREST.
I MEAN, IT'S A ACCIDENT REPORT.
AND SO THAT WAS THE STANCE THAT WE TOOK, OR I TOOK, UH, BE CLEAR, I TOOK, UH, IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND NOT INVESTIGATING THIS INSTANCE.
I THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. AGREE.
I WANNA OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS OF CLARIFICATION, UH, ABOUT THIS, UH, PARTICULAR CASE, ANY QUESTIONS THAT WOULD HELP YOU DETERMINE, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.
AND THEN, UH, IF POSSIBLE, IF THERE, I'D LIKE TO, UH, SEE IF THERE IS A MOTION, IF, IF THE BOARD FEELS CALLED TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS.
AND THEN WE WILL, UH, ALSO HAVE SOME TIME TO DISCUSS BEFORE WE VOTE IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO DO SO.
UH, MR. HUFF, YOU SAID IN THE VIDEO THAT THE OFFICERS WERE DISCUSSING THE DRIVER SWITCH.
WHAT, WHAT DID YOU HEAR THEM SAY? THEY WERE BASICALLY SAYING THAT THERE WAS NO, UM, MOTIVE FOR THE DRIVER SWITCH BECAUSE SHE HAD NO INSURANCE, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA TOW THE CAR.
SO IT MADE NO SENSE TO DO A DRIVER SWITCH.
SO, SO I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. MAPLES, JUST FOR MY OWN CURIOSITY.
SO THIS HAPPENED AT LAKE JUNE AND, AND MASTERS.
UH, WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT BE ON MR, WHAT IS HIS NAME? UH, SAMAD.
MR. SAMAD, IF THERE WAS A BUSINESS IN THE VICINITY THAT HAD A CAMERA, WOULD IT BE ON MR ON HIM TO REACH OUT TO THAT BUSINESS AND SAY, HEY, CAN WE PULL THAT CAMERA? HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? WELL, IT, IT SHOULD BE UP TO THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
HE, HE ACTUALLY REPORTED THAT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SAID, THERE'S CAMERAS AROUND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL CAMERAS.
UM, AND THAT'S WHEN, UM, LIKE I SAID, WHEN I INTERVIEWED HIM, HE SAID HE HAD ACTUALLY SPOKEN TO A DETECTIVE WHO SAID HE COULDN'T FIND ANY VIDEO.
HE REACHED OUT TO THOSE BUSINESSES AND COULDN'T FIND ANY VIDEO.
UM, YES, MS. KING, THIS IS MAYBE FOR BOTH MAJOR GREER AND INVESTIGATOR HUFF.
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WHEN YOU'RE DOING AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION AND YOU'RE TRYING TO INTERVIEW THE OFFICERS THAT WERE INVOLVED, AND THEY THEN THEY DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE, DOES THAT, UM, INDICATE ANYTHING? IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE WOULD WANNA BE TRANSPARENT, AND SO THEY SHOULD WANNA BE ABLE, THEY SHOULD WANNA SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVE OR JUST REINFORCE WHAT THEY ALREADY WROTE DOWN IN A REPORT.SO ARE THEY ADVISED TO NOT SPEAK TO OUR INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATORS? OR HOW, HOW ARE WE, IS THAT AN EXAMPLE OF WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE RANK AND FILE SO THAT THEY HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL OF WORKING WITH US FOR ULTIMATE TRANSPARENCY? BECAUSE I'M CONFUSED BOTH THIS CASE AND THE ONE THAT WE JUST VOTED ON, HAD OFFICERS DECLINED TO TALK WITH MR. HUFF? I THINK, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
UM, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THOUGH IS, IS THAT TRUST FACTOR.
AND THAT'S MAKING SURE THE OFFICERS UNDERSTAND THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I SAY WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE OFFICE AND HAND IN HAND WITH THE BOARD AND, AND, AND, AND BE CLEAR, THE PLACE THAT WE SIT NOW IS NOT WHERE WE WERE TWO YEARS AGO OR A YEAR AGO.
IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLACE, BUT IT TAKES TIME TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT.
IT TAKES TIME TO MAKE SURE OFFICERS UNDERSTAND THAT.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS BOARD DOES, NEVER HEARD OF THIS BOARD.
AND BUT FOR THOSE OFFICERS THAT HAVE, THEY MAY BE LIVING IN THE TIME BEFORE NOW, UM, AND THAT'S ON, THAT'S ON, UH, UH, ME, THAT'S ON THE BOARD, AND THAT'S ON THE OFFICE.
THAT'S ON ALL OF US TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT MESSAGE OUT TO BOTH THE CITIZENS AND THE OFFICERS AS TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT BACK TO CHIEF CUOMO'S, UH, WORK WITH US, IT'S INCUMBENT ON HIM AS THE, THE TOP OFFICER TO BE, UM, EMPHASIZING THAT HE WANTS HIS OFFICERS TO BE, OBVIOUSLY FOLLOWING THE LAW AND COMPLYING WITH ALL THE THINGS, BUT ALSO TRANSPARENT AND, AND WILLING TO WORK WITH INDEPENDENT BODIES TO REINFORCE FINDINGS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOT TO GOTCHA.
WE DON'T WANNA BE GETTING ANYONE, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE A FAIR, UH, AND TRANSPARENT EXPERIENCE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THAT IF THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY DID, THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE HAVE ONE MORE INVESTIGATION THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO I HOPE THAT THE CHIEF WILL, UM, COME TO HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS BOARD AND, AND ABSOLUTELY SAY TO ALL OF HIS OFFICERS THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND, TO HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL WITH IT AND TO, TO WORK WITH US.
AND THAT MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A BRAINSTORMING OPPORTUNITY AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, ALTHOUGH I KNOW YOU AND THE STAFF ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THIS, ABOUT WHAT CAN WE BE DOING, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A BEST KEPT SECRET BOARD, UM, EXCEPT FOR A FEW PEOPLE IN THE KNOW.
SO PART OF OUR JOB IS TO GET THE WORD OUT.
AND SO I'VE ALREADY INVITED FOLKS TO MY, MY DISTRICT, BUT, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS IN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT, UM, WE, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE EVEN MORE PLANS.
SO I THAT'S MORE OF A BLANKET OPPORTUNITY STATEMENT, I GUESS.
MS. WADSWORTH? I HAVE A COMMENT.
SO I'M GONNA BRING UP MY INSURANCE, MY 26 YEAR INSURANCE CAREER AS AN AGENT.
I'M GONNA BRING THAT UP AGAIN, BECAUSE MS. CASTRO HAD NO LIABILITY INSURANCE AND NO DRIVER'S LICENSE, WHICH YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A BIG DEAL, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, NOBODY'S GONNA LOCK HER UP FOR THAT.
THIS ALLEGED MALE WHO WAS DRIVING, HE MIGHT'VE HAD OUTSTANDING ARREST WARRANTS, HE MIGHT'VE BEEN A CONVICTED FELON, HE FLED THE SCENE.
AND THEN HERE'S A WOMAN WHO DECIDES SHE'S GONNA COME IN AND BE, TAKE THE RAP AND BE CITED FOR NO INSURANCE AND NO DRIVER'S LICENSE.
TO ME AS AN INSURANCE AGENT FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANY, THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO BE DOCUMENTED IN THE POLICE REPORT BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF A POLICE REPORT IS NOT TO ASSIGN FAULT, IS TO DOCUMENT FACTS.
THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A POLICE REPORT.
SO IF ONE PERSON ALLEGES THIS, YOU STATE IT.
IF THE OTHER PERSON ALLEGES THIS, YOU STATE IT.
LET THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DEAL WITH IT.
BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THAT BE DOCUMENTED BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS ALLEGED MAIL THAT FLED.
YES, MR. SMITH? UH, YEAH, I, I ACTUALLY, MY QUESTION WAS GONNA PROBABLY, UH, 0.2, UM, KIND OF UNDERSTANDING TEXAS, BEING AN AT FAULT AND ALL THOSE OTHER, UM, CHALLENGES THAT COME WITH, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR REPAIRING MY CAR AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
THAT ASIDE, AND THAT COMMENT, UM, MADE MA MAJOR GREER.
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QUESTION IS, IS THAT, AND I, AND MAYBE YOU CAN SHARE LIKE HOW WRITING THE POLICE REPORTS SOME, WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND UNDERSTANDING, I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED PAGES TO JUST TRY TO TRANSCRIBE EVERYTHING THAT WAS STATED, BUT IN THIS CASE, I'M JUST WONDERING, SHOULD THAT STATEMENT OF, UH, MR. ASSAD SAMAD, UH, MR. SAMAD ALLEGED THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER DRIVER AND THAT NEVER MADE IT INTO THE REPORT, IS THAT, CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT'S REQUIRED? WHAT'S EXPECTED AS FAR AS KIND OF, I MEAN, IF IT'S, UH, WHAT'S DOCUMENT ON THE ACCIDENT REPORT AND THAT LITTLE BOX OF NARRATIVE, IT STATES CLEARLY THIS IS THE, UH, THE OFFICER'S OPINION IS, I THINK'S THE WAY IT'S WORDED INVESTIGATOR'S NARRATIVE OPINION OF WHAT HAPPENED, UH, THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE BOX, ON THE STATE, STATE FORM.UM, THAT'S WHAT THE OFFICER BELIEVED THAT HAPPENED.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HE WROTE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE STOOD.
UM, SORRY, I GUESS I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE HE'S TAKING THE INFORMATION IN AND HE'S PROCESSING IT, AND THEN HE'S WRITING IN THAT BOX.
BUT IS THERE ANY OTHER PLACE WHERE THE OFFICER TAKES INFORMATION FROM BOTH SIDES AND DOCUMENTS, NOT HIS OPINION, BUT WHAT HAS BEEN TOLD TO HIM? SURE, YOU COULD, YOU COULD, IF YOU WANTED TO, YOU COULD WRITE WHAT'S CALLED A MISCELLANEOUS INCIDENT REPORT TO ADD INFORMATION IN, TO ADD IT ALONG WITH THIS.
YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT IF, OKAY.
IF YOU, UM, THOUGHT THAT IT WAS PERTINENT INFORMATION.
BUT, UM, WHAT'S REQUIRED IS JUST HIS, UH, OPINION, IF YOU WILL, IN THAT BOX, IS OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT HE WAS DEALING WITH OUT THERE.
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, AND THAT'S THE REPORT THAT HE MADE.
I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO DELINEATE WHETHER OR NOT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO JUST ADD THAT ONE LINE EVEN IT DOESN'T CHANGE, I DON'T THINK THE OUTCOME, BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE FOR, UM, MR. ABDUL, I THINK JUST THE CREDIBILITY OF, YOU HEARD ME, I TOLD YOU THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WAS DRIVING.
IS THERE A MOTION TO AFFIRM OR REJECT ONE OTHER COMMENT? BECAUSE I, I WANT FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING MAJOR GREER SAID, AND I, AND I DO AGREE WITH YOU, WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS AND I ATTRIBUTE A LOT OF THAT TO YOUR LEADERSHIP.
AND THE PRIOR ONE ARE REALLY GOOD EXAMPLES OF THE OFFICERS NOT TALKING TO THE INVESTIGATOR ACTUALLY HURTS THEIR POSITION.
UH, AND THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN TALKING TO THE OFFICER, WELL, NOT TALKING TO THE OFFICER, EXCUSE ME, TO THE INVESTIGATOR, WE'RE ONLY HEARING ONE SIDE OF IT.
AND THEY SHOULD BE ANXIOUS TO TALK TO OUR INVESTIGATOR.
I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULDN'T WANNA COME HERE AND BE GRILLED BY 15 PEOPLE, BUT JUST TO TALK TO OUR INVESTIGATOR ONE-ON-ONE OVER THE PHONE OR WHATEVER.
UH, IF YOU CAN GET THAT MESSAGE ACROSS TO THEM, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST HURTING THEMSELVES AND BY THEM COMING FORWARD, I THINK IT HELPS WITH THE COOPERATION THAT YOU'RE BUILDING.
SO THE REPORT THAT INVESTIGATOR HUFF WROTE IS ON THE ALLEGATION, ONE, FAILURE TO INVESTIGATE SUSTAINED, UH, FAILURE TO INVESTIGATE, UM, ALSO SUSTAINED FOR THE BOTH OFFICERS.
AND THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC DISCIPLINARY OR POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, IS THERE A, A MOTION FROM THE BOARD TO, TO ACCEPT OR REJECT? I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT MR. HUFF'S INVESTIGATION AND CON, UH, CONCLUSION.
THERE'S BEEN A MOTION MADE TO ACCEPT IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY D WADSWORTH.
ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? SEEING THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.
UH, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH A ROLL CALL, VOTE AGAIN.
AND, UH, IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE REPORT, UH, AND YOU ACCEPT, THEN THE, UH, RESPONSE WILL BE YAY.
AND IF YOU DISAGREE, THE RESPONSE WILL BE NAY.
AND, UH, IS THERE SOMEONE KEEPING, ARE YOU TAKING, KEEPING TABS? DIRECTOR? IS I LEFT? I DON'T HAVE, UH, ANY MORE SHEETS.
OH, NO LONGER ON DISTRICT SIX.
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THE MOTION PASSES AND THE BOARD HAS VOTED TO AGREE AND TO AFFIRM THE REPORT MADE BY INVESTIGATOR HUFF.THANK YOU SO MUCH, INVESTIGATOR.
AND THEN, MONTHLY STATISTICS, THEY JUST HAPPENED IN THE PACKET.
WE HAVE NOW, UH, MOVED, UH, TO AGENDA ITEMS SEVEN C, WHICH IS THE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORT.
AND THE, UH, THE INFORMATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IS IN THE PACKET.
SO, UH, IF THE BOARD WOULD WANNA LISTEN, UH, IF, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO, TO READ THOSE PACKETS AT THIS TIME, SKIMM THROUGH, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UH, ADDRESSED TO THE DIRECTOR REGARDING THE DATA THAT'S PROVIDED IN THE PACKET, THERE'LL BE SOME TIME TO DO SO.
SO TAKE YOUR TIME, READ, UH, THESE GRAPHS AND CHARTS AND, UM, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
UH, THE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, MR. MAPLES, YOU HAVE ANY, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, NO.
I, I, I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, MAN, AND IT JUST, I, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
AND, AND, AND LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY.
'CAUSE I'M SURE YOU'RE CURIOUS.
BLACK AND HISPANICS MONTHLY ARRESTS, 2,614, WHITE 574, OTHER 28.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A CASE OF OVER POLICING, BUT THAT NUMBER JUST JUMPS.
I MEAN, IT, IT LITERALLY JUMPS OUT THE PAGE AT ME.
LIKE, I MEAN, 2,614 OF 3,216 ARE PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE ME.
AND ALL THE CRYING AND YEAH, NOW WE ARE NOT DOING ALL THE CRIME.
BUT ANYWAY, I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING THIS UP, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD SOMEONE COME IN AND TALK ABOUT IT AND RUN THE NUMBERS.
AND THE NUMBERS SEEM TO STAY THE SAME, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T SIT RIGHT.
THANK YOU, MR. MAPLES, MR. PIGRAM, AND BEING IN ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS WITH THE LARGE NUMBERS, I JUST HAD A THOUGHT, WHAT, WHAT WILL THOSE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE ONCE ISIS IS RELEASED ON OUR COMMUNITIES? THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY SOMETHING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THESE REPORTS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING THERE'S NONE? YES, MR. HIGGINS, MR. ALRIGHT.
SO JUST FEELS LIKE GROUNDHOG DAY EVERY MONTH WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, BUT, UM, WHAT DO WE WANNA DO ABOUT IT? WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT? RIGHT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE ASKING OURSELVES AS A BOARD.
UM, WE DO, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH POWER, AS MUCH AS SOFT POWER, BUT WE DO HAVE THE POWER TO INQUIRE, ANALYZE AND REQUEST, UH, WHATEVER WE NEED TO GET SOME ANSWERS.
LIKE WE, WE SIT HERE EVERY MONTH AND WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND WE SEE THEY'RE DISPROPORTIONATE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS ABOUT WHY THEY ARE AND ASSUMPTIONS, BUT WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO ABOUT IT? YOU KNOW? AND I THINK WE SHOULD AT SOME POINT HAVE A CON, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS MEETING, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY TALK WITH THE OFFICE AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO FIND OUT, OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, OR AT LEAST RAISE OUR VOICE AND REQUEST SOMETHING THAT CAN LOOK DEEPER IN THIS, INTO THIS.
SO, UM, I HOPE THAT MAKES IT INTO THE MINUTES.
I WOULD CONCUR WITH WHAT SHONDA JUST SAID, AND MAYBE THAT IS A FUTURE MOMENT OF, UH, MAYBE IT'S JUST AN INTERNAL MEETING THAT WE HAVE.
IT'S ON THE RECORD, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AND, UM, FIGURE OUT WITH, UH, WITH THE STAFF AND WITH MAJOR GREER AND OTHERS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, STARTING WITH CHIEF CUOMO ON WHAT CAN WE DO TO, I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF IMPROVING THE TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND MAKING SURE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, SCREAMS AT EVERY MOMENT IT CAN, THAT THEY WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT AND THEY ARE BEING TRANSPARENT.
I DO ALWAYS HEAR THAT FROM MAJOR GURE AND FULLY BELIEVE HIM.
I DID KIND OF HEAR THAT FROM THE CHIEF.
HE'S JUST NOT VERY GOOD AT DELIVERING HIS MESSAGE.
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SO HE NEEDS TO WORK ON THAT.AND, UM, I DO THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, AND I DON'T MEAN THAT TO BE FACETIOUS.
HE, HE, HE'S TRYING TO BE VERY DELIBERATE ABOUT WHAT HE SAYS, SO HE DOESN'T OVERSTATE OR UNDERSTATE SOMETHING.
AND I THINK SOMETIMES THE MESSAGE GETS LOST BY HIS, UH, VERY BRIEF WORDS.
SO, UH, I DO THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORE.
AND MAYBE THAT'S A, A, AN AGENDA ITEM FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE, UM, MR. MAPLES AND, AND MR. HIGGINS ARE NOT WRONG AND MAKE, MAKES HER A CITY ATTORNEY, KNOW, KNOWS THAT WE, WE ARE DOING THAT TOO.
WE, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE PUT IT RIGHT, UM, INTO IT.
UH, AND LET'S MAKE SURE, UH, THESE COMMENTS ARE PUT ON THE AGENDA, ON THE, ON THE MINUTES.
'CAUSE THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, UH, SO THERE'S ACTION ITEMS THAT COME FROM IT.
SO, UH, SEEING THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING, UH, THESE REPORTS, UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM SEVEN D, WHICH IS A POLICY ANALYST REPORT.
AND WE HAVE OUR VERY OWN POLICY ANALYST FROM THE OCPO, SIERRA BASUI, UH, WHO HAVE A LOT OF REPORTS TO GIVE US.
SO, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR BRIEF EXPLANATION OF THESE
AND, UH, WHAT, WE'LL, UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL LET YOU GO THROUGH THE ALL OF THE, UH, REPORTS.
AND THEN AT THE VERY END, UH, WE AS A BOARD CAN ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
AND SO TAKE NOTE AS SHE'S GOING DOWN THE LIST, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, WE'LL GO BACK TO THAT, BUT WE'LL ALLOW YOU TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE UPDATES, AND THEN WE WILL MAKE SOME ROOM FOR QUESTIONS FOLLOWING YOUR BRIEF REPORT.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS SIERRA OBASI.
I'M THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS SIERRA OBASI.
I AM THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
IF YOU COULD TURN TO TAB SEVEN IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY THERE FOR THE BRIEFING MEMO.
UM, IN THIS LEGISLATIVE BRIEFING MEMO, SENATE BILL 25 70 AIMS TO AMEND THE TEXAS PENAL CODE TO ESTABLISH LEGAL JUSTIFICATION FOR THE USE OF LESS LETHAL FORCE WEAPONS BY PEACE OFFICERS AND CORRECTIONAL FACILITY GUARDS.
WHEN ACTING WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES, THE BILL DEFINES LESS LETHAL FORCE WEAPONS AND OUTLINES CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THEIR USE IS CONSIDERED LAWFUL.
A FEW KEY PROVISIONS ARE DEFINING OF LESS LETHAL WEAPONS, WHICH INCLUDE PROJECTILE DEVICES, CHEMICAL AGENTS, BLUNT IMPACT TOOLS, AND STUN GUNS.
THE JUSTIFICATION CRITERIA FOR SB 25 70 IS AN OFFICER OR GUARD MUST REASONABLY BELIEVE THAT THE USE OF LESS LETHAL FORCE IS NECESSARY TO PERFORM OFFICIAL DUTIES AND MUST USE THE WEAPON AND SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR TRAINING.
THE SCOPE OF APPLICABILITY APPLIES ONLY TO PEACE OFFICERS AND CORRECTIONAL FACILITY GUARDS ACTIVELY DISCHARGING OF THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES.
THIS LAW PASSED DURING THE 89TH TEXAS LEGISLATURE AND WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025 TO IMPLEMENT CI SENATE BILL 25 70.
THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY NEED TO REVISE ITS EXISTING POLICIES RELATED TO USE OF FORCE AND CROWD MANAGEMENT.
THE LEGISLATION INTRODUCES A STATUTE FOR THE USE OF LESS LETHAL WEAPONS, EMPHASIZING REASONABLE BELIEF AND SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH TRAINING AS JUSTIFICATION JUSTIFICATION STANDARDS.
AS A RESULT, THE DEPARTMENT MAY CONSIDER UPDATING INTERNAL GUIDELINES TO ALIGN OPERATIONAL DEFINITIONS AND TRAINING REQUIREMENTS WITH THE NEW LINGUAL LANGUAGE.
ADDITIONALLY, CURRENT CROWD MANAGEMENT PROTOCOLS, PARTICULARLY THOSE GOVERNING THE USE OF LESS LETHAL FORCE DURING PUBLIC DEMONSTRATIONS, MAY REQUIRE TO REVIEW TO ENSURE CONTINUED CONSISTENCY WITH DEPARTMENT PRACTICES AND COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS.
WITHOUT CLEAR GUIDELINES OR ALIGNMENT WITH T COLE STANDARDS, THE CITY MAY FACE RENEWED FISCAL LIABILITY AND PUBLIC TRUST CHALLENGES REMINISCENT OF THE 2020 PROTEST RELATED LITIGATIONS AND REFORMS. THANK YOU.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME, MR. CHAIR? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MOVE TO THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE? LET ME ASK.
LET ME QUICKLY ASK WHAT THIS WAS SIGNED INTO LAW BY YOUR GOVERNOR.
BEFORE WE MOVE ON, ACTUALLY TO THE UPDATES, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, UH, BRIEFING? HEY, I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, AND IT'S PROBABLY WILL BE BETTER SUITED FOR, FOR THE MAJOR.
UM, IT SAYS THAT, UH, DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY NEED TO REVISE ITS EXISTING POLICIES RELATED TO USE OF FORCE AND CROWD MANAGEMENT.
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IT, WHEN YOU, WHEN THAT TAKES PLACE, GENERALLY, HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? BECAUSE THIS LAW GOES INTO, INTO EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST AND WHERE IN JUNE, SO WE'RE TALKING 90 DAYS.CAN IT BE DONE IN 90 DAYS OR IS IT GENERALLY DONE IN 90 DAYS? YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION FOR ME.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT ALL SO POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION IMPLICATIONS FOR DALLAS.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS SENATE BILL IS GOING TO MAKE DPD TO HAVE TO REVISE SOME OF ITS EXISTING POLICIES RELATED TO USE OF FORCE AND CROWD MANAGEMENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
DOES IT TAKE LONGER THAN 90 DAYS TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT REVISED? WELL, WE CAN GET IT
THE, THE REASON I'M ASKING, HUH? IF IT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WE'LL GET IT DONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CAN MOVE TO, UH, THE UPDATES? SEEING THERE'S NONE? YES, PLEASE, MS. OBSU, PLEASE.
I GO AHEAD AND, UH, CAN GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THESE, UH, THESE SENATE BILLS AND HOUSE BILLS, AND YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST AND THEN WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS AT THE END.
THE 89TH TEXAS LEGISLATURE CONVENED ON JANUARY 14TH, 2025 AND CONCLUDED ITS REGULAR SESSION ON JANUARY, JUNE 2ND, 2025.
LAWMAKERS FILED 11,503 BILLS WITH 3,652 ULTIMATELY PASSED INTO LAW.
THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT TRACKED 13 BILLS OF POTENTIAL IMPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WHILE MANY BILLS FAILED TO ADVANCE, SEVERAL KEY MEASURES PASSED AND WILL REQUIRE POLICY ALIGNMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION PLANNING.
OF THE 13 WE BILLS, WE MONITOR THROUGHOUT THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE FOLLOWING BILLS PASSED, SENATE BILL 1957, RELATED TO THE ELIGIBILITY OF A PERSON TO SERVE ON A CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT BOARD.
THE IMPLICATIONS OF SB 9 57 DOES 1957 DOES NOT INTRODUCE NEW RESTRICTIONS, BUT REITERATES EXISTING QUALIFICATION STANDARDS.
THIS WILL TAKE EFFECT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025, SENATE BILL 25 70, RELATING TO THE LEGAL JUSTIFICATION, WHICH IS THE BILL THAT I JUST BRIEFED YOU ON.
UM, THAT WILL, OF COURSE TAKE EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025, SENATE BILL 1637 RELATING TO THE PROSECUTION OF THE OFFENSE OF DEADLY CONDUCT.
SENATE BILL 1637 CREATES A STATUTORY EXEMPTION FOR PE OFFICERS STATING THAT THIS PRESUMPTION DOES NOT APPLY WHEN AN OFFICER IS LAWFULLY DISCHARGING THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES.
AS A RESULT, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY NEED TO UPDATE THEIR GENERAL ORDERS, PARTICULARLY THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE POLICY, AND THE RESPONSE CONTINUING TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN CONDUCT THAT IS LEGALLY EXEMPT UNDER STATE LAW AND BEHAVIOR THAT MAY STILL BE SUBJECT TO INTERNAL REVIEW OR DISCIPLINARY ACTION UNDER DEPARTMENTAL POLICY, THIS BILL WILL TAKE EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025, SENATE BILL EIGHT, RELATING TO AGREEMENTS BETWEEN CERTAIN SHERIFFS AND THE UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOM ENFORCEMENT TO ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW AND GRANT PROGRAM TO COVER THE COST OF IMPLEMENTING THOSE AGREEMENTS.
SENATE BILL EIGHT DOES NOT DIRECTLY APPLY TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT MAY SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT DALLAS RESIDENTS BY EXPANDING IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.
UNDER THE BILL, THE DALLAS COUNTY SHERIFF IS REQUIRED TO PURSUE A FEDERAL 2287 G AGREEMENT WITH ICE POTENTIALLY LEADING TO MORE IMMIGRATION DETENTIONS OF INDIVIDUALS ARRESTED BY DPD AND TRANSFERRED TO COUNTY JAIL.
THIS WILL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, 2026.
OF THE 13 BILLS WE MONITORED THROUGHOUT THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE FOLLOWING BILLS FAILED TO PASS SENATE BILL 7 81 RELATING TO CERTAIN FILES MAINTAINED BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY REGARDING CERTAIN EMPLOYEES OF THE AGENCY.
THE REASON THIS BILL FELT WAS, WAS BECAUSE IT WAS POSTPONED UNTIL AFTER THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AFTER A POINT OF ORDER WAS CALLED FOR BILLS FOR THE BILLS ANALYSIS, NOT ALIGNING WITH THE BILLS LANGUAGE.
THIS WAS A BILL THAT WE CLOSELY MONITORED AND APPLIED MULTIPLE AMENDMENTS TO OUR LEGISLATURES SENATE BILL TWO 80, RELATING TO MUNICIPAL CIVILIAN COMPLAINT REVIEW BOARDS FOR PEACE OFFICER MISCONDUCT AND CERTAIN MIS MUNICIPALITIES DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE SENATE BILL 2 81 RELATING TO THE RETENTION AND REQUIRED DISCLOSURES UNDER THE PUBLIC INFORMATION'S LAW OF CERTAIN COMPLAINTS ALLEGING OFFICIAL OPPRESSION DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE HOUSE BILL 9 0 9 RELATING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT MISCONDUCT AND
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LAW ENFORCEMENT INTERACTIONS WITH CERTAIN DETAINED OR ARRESTED INDIVIDUALS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO PUBLIC ENTITY LIABILITY FOR THOSE INTERACTIONS AND TO THE CONFINEMENT CONVICTION OR RELEASE OF DETAINED OR ARRESTED INDIVIDUALS DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE HOUSE BILL 8 81 RELATING RELATED TO A PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINARY MATRIX FOR POLICE OFFICER MISCONDUCT IN CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE SENATE BILL 1421 RELATING TO LESS LETHAL FORCE WEAPONS, INCLUDING A DEFENSE TO PROSECUTION FOR CERTAIN OFFENSES INVOLVING THE USE OF LESS LETHAL FORCE WEAPONS BY PEACE OFFICER AND POLICIES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES CONCERNING USE OF LESS LETHAL FORCE WEAPONS DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE HOUSE BILL 29 82 RELATING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT POLICIES PROHIBITING A PEACE OFFICER FROM USING LESS LETHAL PROJECTILES FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONTROLLING THE ACTIVITY OR MOVEMENT OF A GATHERING OF PEOPLE DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE HOUSE BILL 29 29 RELATING TO TRAINING FOR PEACE OFFICERS ON INTERACTING WITH PERSONS WITH AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER.DID NOT MEET THE MAY 27TH HOUSE DEADLINE, HOUSE BILL 36 40 AND HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 1 62 RELATING TO THE PROSECUTION OF AN OFFENSE COMMITTED BY A PEACE OFFICER ACTING IN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF THE OFFICER'S OFFICIAL DUTIES DID NOT MAKE IT OUT OF COMMITTEE.
AND OUT OF THOSE 13 BILLS TRACKED, OCPO SUBMITTED PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO SENATE BILL 7 81 AND SENATE BILL 25 70.
WE THANK THE LEGISLATURES AND STAFF WHO COLLABORATED WITH OCPO AND CONSIDERED OUR FEEDBACK.
WE ALSO EXTEND SINCERE APPRECIATION TO THE CPOB FOR THEIR CONTINUED ADVOCACY AND ENGAGEMENT IN THIS LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.
THEIR COLLECTIVE EFFORTS ENSURE THAT DALLAS RESIDENTS WERE REPRESENTED IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY POLICY CONVERSATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THESE LEGISLATIVE UPDATES? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE A COMMENT.
UM, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A MASTERFUL JOB OF FOLLOWING, UM, THE BILLS IN THE LEGISLATURE.
JUST BEING IN AUSTIN IS CONFUSING ENOUGH, BUT TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW THESE BILLS, PARTICULARLY THE ONES THAT ARE OF CONCERN TO THIS BOARD AND TO OUR CITY, UH, IS A MASTERFUL, UH, YOU'VE DONE A MASTERFUL JOB TO ALL OF YOU ON THE, UM, OF THE OFFICE.
MS. KING, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? IT'S REALLY JUST A, A DITTO, UM, TO WHAT JUDGE LAND SAID.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING ON IT AND FOR SHARING WITH US IN REAL TIME, UM, ALL THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN AUSTIN.
IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS, UM, A JOURNEY, A SIX MONTH JOURNEY, UM, WITH A LITTLE CRAZINESS, UM, SPRINKLED IN THROUGHOUT.
SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING IT EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND FOR LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION THOUGH.
UM, WHEN, ANYTHING, ANY BILLS THAT DIE IN COMMITTEE, CAN THEY COME BACK UP IN THE NEXT SESSION? YES, THEY CAN.
ALRIGHT, SO THEY'RE NOT DEAD, THEY JUST DIED.
THEY CAN, CAN BE REINCARNATED, CORRECT.
I, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE.
AND SO, SB 7 81 AND SB 25 70, UH, WE SUBMITTED PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THOSE, ANYTHING HAPPEN.
SO WE DID SUBMIT FOR 7 81, UM, AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON THE FLOOR.
UM, BUT BECAUSE THE BILL DIED THAT DAY, ON THAT DEADLINE, UM, NOTHING CAME OF IT, BUT WE DID GET IT TO THE FLOOR, UM, WHICH I SENT OUT A COPY TO EVERYONE, UM, THAT WAS ABLE TO REVIEW THAT AMENDMENT.
AND, AND LASTLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SB EIGHT.
UM, AND IT'S, I MEAN, AND ITS IMPACT ON US BECAUSE IT, EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS DOES NOT DIRECTLY APPLY TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT DOES APPLY TO THE DALLAS SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
WHICH ULTIMATELY, I CAN'T USE THAT WORD, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S GONNA ROLL DOWNHILL AND
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IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE WAY ICE, I'M, I'M, I'M LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE WAY ICE DOES ITS JOB.
IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE WAY DALLAS SUPPORTS ICE OR THE FEDS, AND WE GOT AN ANSWER THAT THAT SEEMS TO BE THE, THE POLITICALLY CORRECT ANSWER TO AVOID LITIGATION.
WELL, WE WAKE UP, WE ALL WAKE UP EVERY DAY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT, BUT IT'S NO MEAT ON THAT BONE IF YOU FOLLOW WHERE I'M GOING.
SO I, I REALLY, I REALLY NEED TO, TO UNDERSTAND, AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP, OR MAYBE THIS IS OUTSIDE THE REALM.
I JUST, I JUST, I JUST SEE A BIG COLLISION COMING HERE WITH SB EIGHT AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND THE FEDS.
WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
PEEL, PEEL THAT ONION IF YOU MAY.
I, I WILL PEEL IT AND TRY TO ANSWER IT AS BEST AS I CAN.
UM, FOR SENATE BILL EIGHT, LIKE I STATED BEFORE, IT UM, DOES NOT DIRECTLY IMPACT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT I THINK FOR THE BOARD AND THE OFFICE, WHAT WOULD BE BEST IS PROBABLY INFORM THE COMMUNITY OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF SENATE BILL EIGHT.
I THINK OUTREACH IS PROBABLY YOUR BEST ADVOCATE IN THIS POINT.
UM, JUST KEEPING THEM INFORMED OF THE IMPLICATIONS AND RAMIFICATIONS AND HOW TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
JUST EDUCATE THEM ON SENATE BILL EIGHT.
SO, SO THE CONTINUATION OF KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, A AS IT RELATES TO SPECIFIC TO SENATE BILL EIGHT WOULD PROBABLY SPECIFIC TO SB EIGHT.
'CAUSE SB EIGHT IS SCARY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY TERRIFIED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, STATEMENTS, THIS STATEMENT? A STATEMENT? YES, MR. PETER? I SAID, I'M A BIT HEARTBROKEN THAT A HOUSE BIT 29 29 DIDN'T GO THROUGH, UH, BEING AN EDUCATOR TO SEE THAT AS MY BABIES THAT HAVE THE SPECTRUM, UH, ON THE SPECTRUM, AGE OUT AND END UP IN THE COMMUNITY, WHO'S GONNA HAVE AN EYE ON THEM, YOU KNOW, OR BE ON THAT SIDE.
BUT YEAH, I HOPE THAT GETS BACK IN THE ROLE IN THE ROTATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. JACKSON? OH, YOU GOT YOUR, UH, YOUR FINGER ON THAT BUTTON.
UM, I KNOW THERE'S SOME DISCONTENT ABOUT THE ANSWERS THAT WE ARE, OR THE LACK OF ANSWERS THAT WE ARE GETTING FROM THE CHIEF AS IT RELATES TO MATTERS THAT IMPACT, I GUESS, SENATE BILL EIGHT, UM, AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF ICE.
UM, WITH THE CITY BEING, UM, NOW OPEN TO LITIGATION, IT CAN BE SUED RIGHT NOW, UM, WANTING A STATEMENT THAT'S GOING TO APPEASE US.
WILL THAT PUT US AT RISK AS A CITY? IS IT, IS IT BETTER FOR THE CITY THAT THE CHIEF IS MORE AMBIGUOUS? AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO COVER FOR THE CHIEF YOU ALL, BUT I'M, I'M SAYING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHO WE SERVE OUR CITIZENS AS WELL.
IF THE CHIEF COMES IN AND SAYS WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR, DOES THAT OPEN US UP FOR LITIGATION? IF HIS STATEMENTS GO AGAINST WHAT THE LAW IS SAYING? AND IF HE DOESN'T SAY WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR, THEN THAT JUST UPSETS US AS A, SOME OF US AS A BOARD.
LIKE, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? I'M, I'M STRUGGLING TO SPEAK TO IT IN PART BECAUSE THE POLITICAL ACTORS IN BOTH WASHINGTON AND IN AUSTIN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT CLEVER INTERPRETATIONS, UNIQUE INTERPRETATIONS THEY WILL USE AND SORT OF WEAPONIZE, UM, LAWS AND REGULATIONS ON THE BOOKS.
I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS HELPFUL, UH, OR A HELPFUL RESPONSE.
CLEVER INTERPRETATION WAS A UNIQUE PHRASE.
UH, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT IT COULD BE AMBIGUOUS.
UH, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE CLARITY AGAIN, BECAUSE IF WE'RE SERVING A COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE ASKING US QUESTIONS WHEN WE LEAVE HERE, I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO IT CORRECTLY.
UM, BUT IT, IT, AGAIN, IT SEEMS AMBIGUOUS, SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE.
AND, AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I THINK WHAT, UH, UM, THE, THE ANSWER IS WHAT WE WERE PRETTY MUCH TOLD, ADVISE YOUR NEIGHBORS.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW THE FED RULES, WE KNOW THEY GONNA MAKE IT HELL ON THEM.
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SHOWING IT ANYTIME YOU DON'T DO WHAT'S HAPPENING, ROLLS DOWNHILL FROM WASHINGTON INTO TEXAS AND ANY OTHER STATES, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT HELL TO PAY ON THAT SPECIFIC ENTITY.IT JUST IS, WHETHER IT'S A LAW OR NOT, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
MS. WADSWORTH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT FIRST I'D LIKE TO, UM, SUMMARIZE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS MOTION.
UM, TONIGHT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF LAST MONTH'S MEETING, AND ON PAGE EIGHT OF THOSE, UNDER ITEM, UM, SIX, IT SAYS, DISCUSSION OF THE ROLE OF DPD IN IMMIGRATION ENHANCEMENT ENFORCEMENT.
AND THE BOARD ENGAGED IN EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION REGARDING RECENT PUBLIC STATEMENTS BY THE INCOMING DALLAS POLICE CHIEF.
SO WE HAD A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ROLE OF ICE AND INCOMING POLICE CHIEF.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, IT SAYS, CITY ATTORNEY DANIEL MOORE JUMPED IN AND CLARIFIED THE LEGAL RESTRAINTS UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
AND THERE WAS A, A QUORUM ABOUT DISGUISING, YOU KNOW, WHAT MR. FREEMAN HAD SAID AND THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER.
SO THE CITY ATTORNEY GAVE AN INSTANT OPINION.
WE GOT AN INSTANT OPINION ON THAT.
SO THE BOARD MEMBERS, IF YOU GO FURTHER DOWN, THE BOARD MEMBERS DISCUSSED CONCERNS REGARDING THE POLICE CHIEF'S RESPONSE TO THE FEDERAL EXECUTIVE ORDER, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
WE'VE, WE'VE READ ALL THIS IN OUR MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH DOCUMENTED, APPROVED IN THE PUBLIC ARENA.
I DO AGREE THAT TONIGHT WE SEEM BLINDSIDED BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DID NOT GIVE THE DIRECTOR OR ANYONE ON STAFF INFORMATION OF HOW SPECIFIC WE NEEDED TO BE WHEN WE SAID WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING.
NOW, I WOULD THINK AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING WOULD INCLUDE GENERAL OPINIONS ON BROAD TOPICS.
WE DIDN'T ASK ABOUT A SPECIFIC CASE.
WE DIDN'T ASK ABOUT SPECIFIC, WE WANTED TO KNOW BROAD TOPICS ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH.
AND IT'S DOCUMENTED IN OUR NOTES.
THEREFORE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE ASK OUR DIRECTOR TO, UH, BEFORE THE MINUTES, I MEAN, THE AGENDA FOR THE AUGUST MEETING IS PUBLIC, AND WE ABIDE BY THAT AGENDA ACCORDING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT THAT BE RUN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND THEY HAVE A 24 HOUR DEADLINE TO TELL YOU, OH, YOU NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH ITEM TWO OR ITEM EIGHT, OR ITEM 12, LIKE WE WERE TOLD TONIGHT, WAY TOO LATE FOR US TO INCLUDE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD ALREADY SENT THE POLICE CHIEF.
DOES ANYBODY SECOND MY MOTION? DERRICK PEGRAM? UH, SIX.
SO THERE'S BEEN A MOTION, THERE'S BEEN SECONDED.
UM, AND SO WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW AS A BOARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT THE, THE AGENDA DOES ALREADY GO THROUGH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO ONCE AGAIN, UM, ONCE AGAIN, LIKE CHON SAYS THE, THE NEFARIOUS ACTIONS THAT TOOK ON THIS EVENING, THAT'S, THAT'S PROOF OF WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE BACKING THAT WE REALLY NEED.
SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE CITY, THE ATTORNEY, THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
DO YOU WANNA, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT DIRECTOR OF THE PROCESS? NO, THAT'S QUITE ALL RIGHT.
UM, I'M SEND, SO YOU GONNA SAY, SO MR. UH, I WAS HOPING THE DIRECTOR, I WAS HOPING THE DIRECTOR COULD ADDRESS THIS DIRECTOR.
WHAT'S THE PROCESS FROM THE OFFICE, UH, ABOUT GETTING THE AGENDA OUT? JUST, JUST SHOW, TELL THE BOARD WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
SO WE USUALLY, UM, WHILE DEAL WILL, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COLLABORATE, SO I MEET WITH THE CHAIR, UM, AND WE DISCUSS WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
AND I JUST WANNA KNOW AS FAR AS LIKE INTRODUCTION AND DESCRIPTION OF THAT.
I, UM, UM, THE CITY MANAGER REQUESTED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF BE INTRODUCED TO THE BOARD.
BUT ONCE THE AGENDA IS FINALIZED WHILE THERE, COMMUNICATION ADVISOR, WHO'S THE BOARD'S COORDINATOR, FORWARDS THAT TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY FOR REVIEW.
UM, ALSO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR FEEDBACK.
UM, AND, UM, ADJUSTMENTS ARE MADE IF NECESSARY TO THAT AGENDA BEFORE IT'S PUBLISHED WITHIN THAT 72 HOURS BEFORE THE MEETING.
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THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY ALREADY, UH, READS THE AGENDA AND, UH, MAKES ADJUSTMENTS TO IT.UM, CAN I ASK, CAN WE ASK THE BOARD, ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS LAST PROCESS? YEAH.
I, I THINK, UH, IS THIS HOW WE WANNA USE OUR TIME RIGHT NOW TALKING ABOUT IT? I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE HEAVY HEARTS ABOUT, YEAH.
YEAH, I, I GOT QUESTIONS AND I GUESS I WOULD'VE A QUESTION, MY FIRST QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IS, WHAT WAS THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD ABOUT THE CHIEF COMING TO, AND I'M CHOOSING MY WORDS CAREFULLY COMING TO BE INTRODUCED TO US, BECAUSE WHEN I READ THIS LINE, CHIEF DANIEL D CUOMO, INTRODUCTION TO CPOB, UM, THAT'S VAGUE.
AN INTRODUCTION CAN BE A LOT OF THINGS.
UM, IT CAN BE TWO WAYS WHICH WE HAD EXPECTED, OR IT CAN BE ONE WAY.
JUST READ HIS BIO TO US, WE SMILE AND HE GOES HIS WAY.
UM, SO I LIKE WHERE, UH, BOARD MEMBER WADSWORTH WAS GOING.
'CAUSE I ALREADY HAD NOTES ABOUT THIS TO BRING IT UP EARLIER.
SO ONE, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT CONVERSATION WAS, UM, ABOUT WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WITH CHIEF COMING TO TALK TO US IS ONE.
SECONDLY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT LANGUAGE CAN WE USE IN FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? AND I HAVE AN EXAMPLE, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO ASK QUESTIONS, TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, A DIALOGUE.
SO HERE WE HAD THE, THE WORDING CHIEF DANIEL D CUOMO, INTRODUCTION TO CPOB.
SO I CAN GET INTO THE ENGLISH AND GO REAL NITTY GRITTY THAT THAT SOUNDS ONE WAY.
MY SUGGESTION IS INTRODUCTION AND INQUIRY OF VARIOUS TOPICS OF INTEREST BY CPOB, WHICH LEAVES IT OPEN FOR US TO ASK WHAT WE WANT TO ASK AT THE TIMES THAT WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ASK, WHICH WAS TONIGHT.
WHAT WAS THE CONVERSATION THAT GOT THIS LANGUAGE PUT IN? THAT SEEMS VERY ONE WAY.
AND WHAT LANGUAGE CAN WE PUT IN SO WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO WHAT WE CAME TO DO? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AND I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS ALL OF THIS WITH EACH OF YOU OFFLINE.
BUT BECAUSE THIS ISN'T ON THE AGENDA, WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT.
I'LL STAY HERE AS LONG AS YOU GUYS WANNA DISCUSS THIS ONCE THE MEETING IS OVER.
AND I WILL SPEAK TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.
SO, C CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? YES.
AND THIS IS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
CAN WE JUST ADD A DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, IN RELATION TO THIS MATTER, TO THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT'S GONNA PROLONG OUR MEETINGS, BUT IT IS A POINT OF INTEREST THAT IS SEEMINGLY EVERYONE NEEDS AN ANSWER TO.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND I, I I THINK WE'LL DO THAT.
AND I ALSO ENCOURAGE EACH, EACH OF US TO TALK TO THE ATTORNEY, UH, AFTER THIS MEETING AS WELL.
UH, D POINT, NEED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.
HOW IS IT, WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT A MOTION AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.
WELL, UH, THE MOTION IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
YEAH, YEAH, THE MOTION'S BECAUSE THE, THE MOTION'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
UM, WE, WE CAN'T ADDRESS IT BECAUSE THE, THE MOTION WASN'T PLACED ON THERE.
ANYWAY, WE CAN, YEAH, WE CAN, UH, UH, I THINK WE'RE ALL CLEAR WHERE WE WHERE WE ARE, YEAH.
MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU NEED TO RULE THE MOTION OUT OF ORDER.
I'VE NOT HEARD YOU SAY THAT YET, SO I GUESS I WAS, I WAS SAD TO SAY IT, BUT, UH, I GUESS I NEED TO SAY IT.
BUT LET'S, UH, I LOVE MR. JACKSON'S SUGGESTION AND, UH, LET'S, LET'S PUT THIS ON THE NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED.
WELL, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS ON THE, UH, IN THE MINUTES AND THAT IT IS, UM, OUT OF ORDER AND NOT ACCEPTED.
A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REPORT READ INTO THE RECORD BY, UM, OUR LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE.
SO THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE, UH, LEGISLATIVE UPDATES.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION TO DO THAT.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT RAC I'LL REACH.
UH, THERE'S NO MOTION ABOUT THE MEETING MINUTES.
THIS WAS, YOU'RE NOTING FOR THE RECORD THAT SHE SAID SHE WAS SETTING UP THE QUESTION BY READING THE PAST, BY THE PAST MINUTES.
SO THE REPORT THAT WAS JUST READ TO US.
THERE'S NO, YEAH, NO NEED TO, UH, NO NEED TO SUPPORT THE UPDATE, WHICH, SO THANK YOU.
NO NEED, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA EITHER, SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T MAKE A MOTION.
BUT, UH, WE HAVE TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATES AND, UH, MOVING FORWARD, UH, WE DO HAVE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REPORT AND WE WANT TO INVITE THE SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, AL PEREZ, UH, TO COME FORWARD, SHARE THE GOOD
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THINGS THE TEAM IS UP TO IN THE COMMUNITY AMONG THE PEOPLE.AND I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU, MS. PEREZ.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIR, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, MAJOR GREER AND MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
MY NAME'S ALMA PEREZ, A SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST.
UM, THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF MAY, THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT REMAINED ACTIVELY ENGAGED ACROSS DALLAS, PARTICIPATING IN SEVEN EVENTS THAT CONNECTED WITH OVER 670 RESIDENTS.
CITYWIDE OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS SPANNING CULTURAL CELEBRATIONS TO CITY SERVICE INITIATIVES, PRIORITIZED MEETING COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY ARE BOTH GEOGRAPHICALLY AND, UH, THROUGH SHARED EXPERIENCES.
SO A KEY HIGHLIGHT, UM, OF, UH, THIS MONTH OF MAY, UH, WAS OUR FAMILY FUND RESOURCE DAY, WHICH HAPPENED IN DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, WHERE OVER 25 CITY AND COMMUNITY VENDORS OFFERED SAFETY RESOURCES AND ACTIVITIES TO 75 ATTENDEES REINFORCING COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND CONNECTION.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK BOARD MEMBER JENNY KING FOR JOINING ME.
UM, AT THIS EVENT, UM, OCPO OUTREACH SPANNED SIX DISTRICTS FOCUSING ON INCLUSIVITY AND ACCESS WITHIN UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY KICKED OFF JUNE, UH, WITH, UM, THE DIRECTOR AND I ATTENDED THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS DAY, UH, SAFETY FAIR AND UNITY PRAYER ON FRIDAY.
UM, AND, UM, IT'S BEEN EFFECTIVE, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN ATTENDING, UH, VARIOUS EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, AND SO I DO WANT TO, UM, JUST GIVE A QUICK SHOUT OUT TO MOMS DEMAND ACTION.
UM, I DID MEET THEM ON FRIDAY AND THEY ARE PRESENT AT OUR MEETING TONIGHT.
SO I DO WANNA THANK THEM FOR TAKING THE TIME TO ACTUALLY JOIN US AND STILL BE HERE WITH US.
UM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GETTING LATE, UM, THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS WORKING TO HELP IN GUN VIOLENCE.
AND JUNE IS GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.
SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, UM, CONNECT.
AND THE EVENT, UH, DID, UM, HAVE RESOURCES ON SAFETY.
UH, AND IT'S AL IT WAS ALSO A MOMENT TO, UM, ALSO HONOR THOSE THAT WE'VE LOST, UM, DUE TO GUN VIOLENCE.
UM, AS THE DIRECTOR STATED IN JUNE, I, WE DO HAVE TWO JUNETEENTH CELEBRATIONS THAT WE ARE ATTENDING.
ONE, WHICH WILL BE THIS SATURDAY FROM 10:00 AM TO 6:00 PM IN DISTRICT, UH, TWO.
UH, AND I HAVE SENT OUT AN INVITATION TO YOU ALL.
SO IF YOU GET THAT, IT'S FOR THIS SATURDAY.
AND THEN ALSO JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION ON JUNE 21ST, WHICH IS A SATURDAY.
AND THAT ONE IS JUNETEENTH IN HAMILTON PARK DISTRICT 10.
AND THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONNECT WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UM, MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE, AND, UM, JUST PROVIDE EDUCATION AND RESOURCES.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'M LOOKING UP RIGHT NOW.
UM, GREAT JOB ON, UH, INSTAGRAM BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN ACCOUNT, RIGHT? WHAT'S YOUR HANDLE? WHAT'S THE NAME? THE HANDLE IS, UH, OCPO, DALLAS, OR DALLAS, OCPO, ONE OF THE TWO.
AND IT'S THE SAME FOR FACEBOOK.
ALRIGHT, WELL I WANNA ENCOURAGE ALL THE, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, HIT THAT FOLLOW BUTTON BECAUSE, UH, SHE DOES, UH, THE OFFICE DOES POST A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY EVENTS ON THERE, FACEBOOK, AND I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW AS WELL.
'CAUSE THERE'S SOME GOOD THINGS ON THAT ACCOUNT.
AND THANK YOU MS. PEREZ, FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR DEDICATION TO BEING THE, THE FACE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UH, WE ARE, UH, TO THE POINT NOW WE'RE ON AGENDA ITEM EIGHT AND UH, WE HAVE THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION REPORT.
SO, UH, MAJOR GREER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
UH, AGAIN, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER.
IT HELPED US REALLY UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE POLICE PROCESS.
I WANNA GIVE YOU THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW TO SHARE ANYTHING PERTINENT TO YOU INVOLVING THE BOARD.
I'M GONNA BE REAL BRIEF, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT MONTH, BUT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MEETING NEXT MONTH.
WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO COME VISIT IAD UM, AND I'LL BE THERE, YOU GUYS, WHATEVER MEANS WHATEVER TIME YOU WANNA COME, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET A GOOD TOUR FOR YOU.
I THINK WE'VE, SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE ALREADY COME DOWN, BUT, UM, ANYTIME THIS MONTH.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, ADDRESSED TO MAJOR GREER? UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPEN INVITATION INVITATION AND I WILL BE, THAT'S ON MY TO-DO LIST,
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SO I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU TOMORROW.I WANNA SAY SHE DID A GREAT JOB AT THE COMMUNITY RESOURCE FAIR AND POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS PRESENT IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR Y'ALL'S SUPPORT AND IT WAS A VERY IMPRESSIVE FARE.
SHE DID THE WHOLE KITTEN CABOODLE.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY SHE DID, SHE REPRESENTED US WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ADDRESS MAJOR GREER SCENE? THERE'S NONE.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS THE CHAIRMAN REPORT.
JUST A BRIEF, UH, COUPLE WORDS FROM ME AND JUST, UH, JUST WANT TO, UH, REITERATE THAT TONIGHT'S MEETING DIDN'T GO AS WE THOUGHT IT WOULD, UH, DISAPPOINTED, UH, BY, UH, THE SURPRISE TONIGHT.
BUT ALSO I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT, UM, WE WILL NOT BE DETERRED BY THIS AS WELL, AND THAT WE WILL FIND A WAY, UH, TO ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.
WE'LL FIND A WAY TO GET THE ANSWERS THAT WE NEED TO GET, UH, BECAUSE WE DO SERVE ULTIMATELY THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS, AND THAT IS OUR, UH, OUR HIGHEST RESPONSIBILITY.
SO, UH, UH, IN TYPES OF DISCOURAGEMENT, OF COURSE, THERE'S MOMENTS FOR OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK THIS IS A TIME FOR US TO LEARN AS A BOARD HOW TO OPERATE, UM, HOW TO DO THINGS BETTER SO THAT WE CAN DO OUR JOB.
AND, UH, ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT AS WELL.
UM, WE, UH, WE NEEDED TO, UH, UH, UH, REMOVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE POLICY FROM THE AGENDA.
UM, BUT I ALSO WANTED JUST TO EXPRESS THAT THESE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE MEETING AND THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB.
AND, UH, I'M PROUD OF THE, THE, UH, CHAIR PEOPLE THAT ARE A PART OF EACH OF THESE COMMITTEES WHO ARE DOING THE GOOD WORK.
AND SO WE'LL FIND A WAY TO GET THAT BACK ON THE AGENDA AS WELL.
UM, BUT WANTED TO JUST EXPRESS AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES ARE MEETING.
SO THAT'S ALL I GOT, UH, TODAY, UH, FOR THE, UH, CHAIRMAN REPORT.
AND I WILL NOW MOVE, UH, TO AGENDA ITEM 10, UH, WHICH IS UPCOMING CPOB MEET CPOB MEETINGS HAS BEEN AT, AS HAS BEEN EXPRESSED EARLIER.
UH, THERE IS NO JULY CPOB MEETING, UH, AS THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES A RECESS, SO DO WE AS A BOARD.
AND SO OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE AUGUST 12TH, 2020 5, 25, 5:30 PM HERE IN, UH, THIS ROOM.
SO INVITE EVERYONE TO COME BACK.
UH, YOUR PRESENCE IS IMPORTANT.
THANK YOU TO THOSE THAT ARE HERE RIGHT NOW, SHOWING YOUR SUPPORT.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR, YOU BEING HERE.
UM, AND SO, UH, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE AUGUST 12TH, AND THEN AGAIN SEPTEMBER 9TH.
AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE OUR SECOND TUESDAY, UH, ROUTINE.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION ABOUT OUR NEXT MEETING? YES.
UM, I DON'T THINK THIS CAN WAIT UNTIL AUGUST.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF PROTESTING, A LOT OF EVENTS HAPPENING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
UM, I THINK WE OWE THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS SOME ANSWERS THAT WE WERE HOPING TO GET TONIGHT THAT WE DIDN'T GET.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE SCHEDULE A MEETING WITHIN 72 HOURS AND INVITE THE CHIEF BACK AND PUT ON THE AGENDA EVERY QUESTION THAT WE HAD FOR 'EM, HIM.
AND IF HE ISN'T ABLE TO SHOW UP, THEN WE HOLD THE MEETING 72 HOURS AFTER THAT AND WE GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT.
UM, I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT ANY OF US WANT.
I'M CERTAINLY READY TO GET SUMMER STARTED.
UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN WAIT UNTIL AUGUST.
SO I'M NOT GONNA BE OFFENDED IF PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH ME AND THIS GETS VOTED DOWN.
UM, IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME, BUT I MOVE THAT WE SCHEDULE A MEETING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND PUT ALL THE QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA.
I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE ON THE AGENDA A TOPIC TO DISCUSS OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
THERE'S BEEN A MOTION MADE, UH, TO, UH, HAVE A MEETING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
DID YOU SAY WITHIN SEVEN, TWO HOURS? OR IS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE? THAT'S, THAT'S THE SOONEST WE COULD DO IT.
UM, AND ON THAT AGENDA WILL BE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HOPE TO ASK THE CHIEF, AND ALSO, UM, THE TOPIC OF, UM, INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, UH, THAT THERE'S BEEN A MOTION MADE.
BUT CAN I, CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT? UH, YES.
GO AHEAD AND MAKE A STATEMENT ON THIS.
UH, SO THE NEXT 72 HOURS, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
MATTER OF FACT, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER, AFTER, UM, JULY 4TH, THEN I CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
ANYTHING THAT YOU MAY BE WANTING TO DO.
BUT FROM TODAY TO JULY 4TH, I'M, I'M SOLD UP.
I GOT, SO THE GOOD NEWS, I GOT TOO MUCH GOING ON.
AND THE GOOD NEWS IS, TOO, IS THAT THERE DOESN'T NEED A MOTION FOR US TO HAVE A MEETING.
AND SO, UH, WE CAN BE IN TOUCH AS A BOARD INDIVIDUALLY, AND, UM, I
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CAN MAYBE SPEAK TO EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, UH, OFFLINE.AND, UH, WHEN I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A QUORUM, UH, THEN, UH, I CAN CALL I, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN DO.
UH, AND SO, UH, ARE YOU SURE, UM, MEETING FRIDAY? I THINK YOU SHOULD CALL A MEETING IN JULY, SO, YEAH, WE'LL, UH, AND DO I, YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? THERE'S NO MOTION NEEDED.
I MEAN, WE CAN, WE CAN ALWAYS DO IT, BUT IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO, TO DO, TO DO, LET ME PUT IT IN THE RECORD.
I THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD MEET IN JULY AS EARLY IN JULY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO GET THIS SITUATION RESOLVED.
AND, AND AS A CHAIR, I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST SPEAK WITH, SPEAK WITH, WITH EACH OF YOU AND, UH, WHEN THE TIME COMES, UH, IF THERE'S A, A NEED FOR A SPECIAL SESSION, THAT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT I CAN DO.
SO, CHAIR, CHAIRMAN, THE, THE ONLY THING I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY TO THAT, UM, WE HAD PROTESTS IN DALLAS LAST NIGHT, AND I, LOOK, I'M NOT, I'M NOT WEDDED TO THE 72 HOURS.
I, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THE SOONER THE BETTER.
AND IF PEOPLE CAN'T MEET, YOU KNOW, 72 HOURS OR A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, THEN THEN WE JUST CAN'T DO IT.
BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON THE RECORD JUST SAYING, I, WE NEED TO GET THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT WITH THE CHIEF, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WITH THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND I, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT CAN WAIT TILL JULY.
BUT IF WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO.
THEY GIVE US A FREEDOM IMPEACH COMMENTS.
I HAVE HAVE, I HAVE STATE, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANNA WEIGH IN ON THIS SINCE WE'RE ALL PUTTING IT ON THE RECORD.
UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET ANYWHERE AS A BOARD BEING ANTAGONISTIC TO THE CHIEF.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO GIVE THE CHIEF A PASS, YOU GUYS, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET THE, I'M NOT CAP, I'M NOT CAPPING FOR THE CHIEF, ALL RIGHT.
BUT IF SUGGESTING THAT WE MEET EVERY 72 HOURS IS, IS EXTREMELY OBSESSIVE AND IT'S NOT GONNA GET ANYTHING DONE.
AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD A BRIDGE, NOT ONLY WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT IS EITHER IT'S ALL AWARE OR THE HIGHWAY, AND THAT'S GONNA EVENTUALLY TUNE, UH, DEAF EARS TO OUR BOARD.
AND, UH, AND OUR BOARD ALREADY AS, UH, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS STATED, YOU KNOW, IT, WE ALREADY GET ANTAGONIZED FOR THE ROLE THAT WE PLAY AND, AND, AND WHOEVER SIDE THAT WE'RE ON.
LIKE, WE, WE CAN MAKE A LOT MORE LEEWAY IF WE STRATEGICALLY GO ABOUT ADDRESSING OUR CONCERNS.
BUT I, I JUST FOR THE RECORD, THINK THAT'S JUST OBSESSIVE.
AND, AND I FEEL LIKE IF YOU, YOU CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU'RE ANTAGONIZING SOMEONE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SHOW UP.
AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT THAT WE HAD THE LAST MEETING, THAT THE CHIEFS DON'T COME.
SO WE, WE GOTTA COME TO SOME SORT OF AN AGREEMENT OR EITHER AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT, BUT CALLING A MEETING EVERY 72 HOURS OR SUGGESTING THAT WE ALL COME TOGETHER SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GRIND THIS AX.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A WASTE OF TIME IN MY OPINION.
AND I'LL, I'LL SAY THAT ON THE RECORD.
I FEEL LIKE WE CAN SPEND A LOT MORE TIME WITH THE RESOURCES AND THE ENERGY THAT WE HAVE, AND WE CAN STRATEGICALLY APPROACH THIS WITHOUT IT BEING ONE SIDED.
MR. CHAIR, THANK COMMENTS HAS BEEN ON THE RECORD.
I, I AGREE WITH, UH, THE BOARD, THE BOARD MEMBER HAS JUST SAID, EXCEPT THAT, UH, WE ARE NOT ANTAGONIZING THE CHIEF.
THIS IS NOT THE CHIEF'S FAULT.
THIS IS THE FAULT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR NOT ALLOWING THIS INFORMATION TO BE DONE LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
SO LET'S CALL A SPADE A SPADE AND GIVE THE, UH, BLAME, IF YOU WILL, WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
AND I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A VERY SERIOUS CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, NOT JUST THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, BUT THE CITY ATTORNEY, BECAUSE THIS IS SERIOUS.
I, I, I I, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THAT.
BUT RESPECTFULLY, THE CHIEF HAS GIVEN US, HE'S, HE'S, HE'S SHOWN US HOW HE'S GONNA RESPOND TO US REGARDLESS WHO INTERVENES.
WE, WE KNOW THAT THE, THE ISSUE HAS BEEN THAT WE'VE SENT LETTER, NO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST BASING IT ON OUR OBSERVATION.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF US WRITING THAT LETTER WAS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THE ANSWER THAT WE WANTED FROM THE CHIEF.
IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT HE DIDN'T ANSWER US OR RESPOND TO US WITH ANY DETAIL? AND EVEN THE, THE, UH, CRITICISMS THAT WAS OFFERED BY OUR, OUR OTHER BOARD MEMBER WAS THAT HIS APPROACH COULD BE A LITTLE ADJUSTED, RIGHT? BUT ARE WE GONNA CONTINUE TO CHASE THAT? I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, WITH US BEING BLINDSIDED TONIGHT.
THAT'S THE ONLY WORD I CAN USE, BECAUSE WE WERE EXPECTING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
BUT WE, WE NEED TO DEFINITELY IDENTIFY WHO IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING AND NOT WASTE OUR TIME ON, ON A MOOT POINT, BECAUSE THE RESPONSES ARE GONNA BE PREDICATED ON US BEING ABLE TO COME TOGETHER AND TO PRESENT A SOLUTION VERSUS US COMING TOGETHER TO JUST HAVE DIALOGUE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT ULTIMATELY WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY JURISDICTION OVER CHAIR.
I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS POINT.
WHAT, WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UH, I'LL, UH, TAKE THIS OFFLINE WITH EACH OF YOU AND WE'LL COME TO A POINT AND, UH, WE'LL COME DECISION AGAIN.
I HAVE, AND I DO HAVE THE POWER TO, UH, SET A MEETING IF I NEED TO DO THAT.
AND THOSE THAT CAN COME, CAN COME.
UM, AND, UH, WE'LL BE TALK, TALKING ABOUT
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THIS AND TAKING THIS OUT.UH, MR. SMITH? YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON, I GUESS WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF, BUT I GUESS DURING MY SOLILOQUY, IF YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, I ASKED THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR QUESTIONS BE RESPONDED TO, SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THE DIRECTOR TO FOLLOW UP TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET RESPONSES TO THE, THE LETTER THAT WE SUBMITTED AND ALSO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE SUBMITTED.
SO I, I BELIEVE AT LEAST HIS OFFICE CAN GIVE US A, A RESPONSE.
AND I THINK IF WE GO BACK IN HISTORY, THOSE HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD IS SENDING INFORMATION OVER AND NOT GETTING ANY RESPONSE.
SO I THINK PROFESSIONALLY WE CAN GET A RESPONSE TO BOTH THE LETTER THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED ALONG WITH THE QUESTIONS.
THEY, THEY LOOK AT ME CRAZY WHEN I WALK OUTTA THE BUILDING AFTER THESE LONG MEETINGS.
THEY LIKE, MAN, WHY DON'T YOU BE QUIET AND LET US GET IT OVER WITH.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST QUICKLY SAY THIS, AND I KNOW I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME, BUT THE WHOLE REASON WHY THIS BOARD EXISTED IS BECAUSE CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, THIS COMMUNITY HISTORICALLY HAD DISPROPORTIONATE THIS PATTERNS AND PRACTICES THAT LED TO IT BEING A REALITY.
IT'S NOT ANTAGONISTIC TO PUSH AS FAR AS WE NEED TO PUSH FOR THIS.
I THINK THAT BOARD MEMBER FREEMAN OFFERED UP A STRATEGY, UM, AS A BOARD.
COLLECTIVELY, WE, WE MIGHT NOT AGREE WITH IT, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT IN LA IT'S NOT HATE AGAINST THE POLICE.
THAT'S FEAR, RIGHT? FEAR OF FAMILIES BEING BROKEN UP, LIVELIHOODS BEING TAKEN, AND THEIR WHOLE LIVES BEING DESTROYED.
THAT'S WHAT MAKES PEOPLE GET OUT THERE AND THROW ROCKS AT CARS.
AND PEOPLE PROTESTING TO SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN PROTESTING FOR THE LAST TWO OR THREE DECADES.
I KNOW THAT FEAR IS WHAT PUTS PEOPLE OUT THERE TO DO THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND WE DON'T WANT, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO STOP THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT, OR AT LEAST CREATE, UH, AN ENVIRONMENT TO WHERE IT DOESN'T ESCALATE TO THAT POINT, I THINK IT'S, IT IS OUR JOB.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE WAITING UNTIL JULY.
I I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER STRATEGY OR A SOLUTION.
IF IT'S NOT THE 72 HOUR THING, UM, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE SOME OTHER SOLUTION WHERE WE CAN AT LEAST GET THIS CONVERSATION MOVING ALONG BEFORE, BEFORE AUGUST.
UH, ONE MORE THING I FORGOT TO MENTION TOO.
IN, IN, UH, MY REPORT, JUST TO GO BACK, UH, IS THAT, UH, THE DIRECTOR AND THE, UH, IAD ALONG WITH THE OFFICE, THEY ARE WORKING ON A REPORT THAT IS ADDRESSING THE RACIAL DISPARITY, UM, IS OF ARRESTS HERE IN DALLAS.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE, IT'S A COLLABORATIVE OF EFFORT ALONG WITH THE, THE POLICE THAT DPD AND THE OFFICE.
AND, UH, IT WAS APPROVED BY, UH, INTERIM CHIEF IGO INITIALLY.
AND THEN, UM, WHENEVER THE NEW CHIEF CAME AND NEEDED TO GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL, AND IT WAS JUST APPROVED, UH, BY CHIEF CUOMO, UH, TO, TO DO THIS REPORT.
AND SO THIS WILL BE A REPORT THAT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THE OFFICE AND IAD, UM, THAT HOPEFULLY CAN SHED SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT QUESTION.
AND I JUST WANNA NOTE, THIS WILL BE AN INDEPENDENT STUDY.
SO THIS IS NOT GONNA BE, UM, DONE BY IAD OR MY OFFICE.
IT'S GONNA BE AN INDEPENDENT STUDY LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THE QUESTION IS GONNA BE ANSWERED AND WHETHER THERE ARE RACIAL DISPARITIES, IF THEY ARE, UM, PROVIDING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND PROCEDURES THAT THE DEPARTMENT CAN IMPLEMENT AND CONSIDER.
UM, AND THIS VENDOR THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HAS DONE THIS TYPE OF STUDY, HAS WORKED WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS, UM, AROUND THE COUNTRY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT.
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.
AND WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO, UH, THE AGENDA.
ITEM 11, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENT, OPEN MICROPHONE.
AND I DO KNOW WE HAVE, UH, ONE FOR SURE, PRECIOUS SOULS, UH, HERE.
I'D LOVE TO INVITE YOU, UH, DOWN, UH, TO THE MICROPHONE.
AND, UH, ALSO DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE YOUR NAME? UH, SIGNED IN.
WELL, THAT'S PRECIOUS SOLES, BUT YEAH, SHE RAISED HER HAND TOO.
UH, MS. SOLES, WE HAVE YOU HERE WRITTEN DOWN.
SO, HEY, WELCOME BACK TO THE POLICE BOARD.
AND AS YOU KNOW THE DRILL, WHEN YOU BEGIN, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
AND PLEASE, WHEN THAT, THAT TIMER'S UP, WE HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU RESPECT THAT.
IF YOU, OF COURSE, FINISH YOUR THOUGHT, FINISH YOUR SENTENCE, BUT BE RESPECTFUL OF THE TIME AND WHEN, WHEN YOU BEGIN THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
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HI, MY NAME IS PRECIOUS SAS.UM, MAY I ASK THE QUESTION? UM, I'M IN DISTRICT ONE.
WHO WOULD I BE ASSIGNED TO AMONG THE POLICE OVERSIGHT, BECAUSE I'VE COME IN HERE A FEW TIMES.
HOW YOU DOING MR. SMITH? UM, AND I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH, HE, UM, I DON'T, I'M LEARNING ABOUT THIS 'CAUSE I'M DEALING WITH A SERIOUS ISSUE WITH SOME STALKING AND HARASSMENT.
UM, I SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SPEAK LIKE THAT OR THIS TO MR. OH, YOU CAN SPEAK TO ME.
TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND ANTHONY GRILL SIGNED ON IT.
AND IT'S BEEN THAT I'VE SUBMITTED SO MANY COMPLAINTS TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS ABOUT THIS SITUATION WITH THIS GROUP.
LIKE IT IS LITERALLY, LIKE SOME OF THE ISSUES ARE LANDLORD, LANDLORD ISSUES, BUT WHEN THE LANDLORD IS ABUSING THEIR, ABUSING THEIR JOB, WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
I MEAN, THIS IS EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT SOMEONE IS POINTING A LIGHT IN MY APARTMENT, I'M BEING TOUCHED ON MY BREASTS IN BETWEEN MY LEGS AND, AND IT'S, IT'S A GROUP THAT I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH AND, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
I'M, I'M SAYING IT, IT SEEM LIKE I'M, I'M BEING HELD HOSTAGE INSIDE OF MY OWN APARTMENT.
YOU GOT A MAN ON THE SIDE OF ME, A MAN UP UNDER ME, LIKE THIS IS SICK.
I, I MEAN, I CAN'T KEEP FOOD ON MY STOMACH EITHER DUE TO WHATEVER THEY SITTING UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IT IS DIFFERENT SMELLS THAT THEY'RE BLOWING OFF INSIDE THE APARTMENT IS ALSO CAUSING ME TO KEEP DOZING OUT TO SLEEP.
I, I'M CALLING CODE ENFORCEMENT BACK AND FORTH.
I KEEP TRYING TO, AND WHEN I DO CALL THE POLICE OUT, THE POLICE THAT'S COMING OUT, I WAS RECEIVE THIS COMPLAINT BACK FROM ANTHONY, FROM, FROM THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT I REPEATEDLY KEEP REPORTING AND THEN THEY TELL ME TO SEND THEM BACK THE TIME AND DATE ABOUT WHO THE OFFICERS ARE.
LIKE, I WOULD THINK FROM ALL THE REPORTS I'VE MADE, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE STALKING AND HARASSMENT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY LOOK INTO THAT.
AND I KNOW SOME OF THIS STUFF PROBABLY BE KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
I'M, I, I MEAN, WHEN I TALK TO THE POLICE, IT DON'T, IT BE ABOUT THE SITUATION I'M REPORTING, BUT AGAIN, DON'T KNOW, NOBODY CALL BACK TO TRY TO HELP THE SITUATION.
PRETTY MUCH JUST ASK ME, DO I TAKE MEDICATION? AND I'M SICK OF IT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M DIAGNOSED WITH PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA.
DO I NOT HAVE A LIFE? I DO HAVE FIVE CHILDREN.
I HAVE A-G-E-D-I HAVE THREE GRANDCHILDREN, YOU KNOW.
UM, I DO LIKE TO GO OUT AND DO THINGS.
I WOULD LIKE TO WORK, YOU KNOW, I, I AM SOMEBODY, MY, MY MAMA DIDN'T NAME ME PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY, BECAUSE THAT'S MY DIAGNOSIS THAT I'M BEING TREATED THAT WAY.
'CAUSE THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND I'M, AND I'M LIKE, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I'M, I'M TRYING MY BEST.
IT'S LIKE I'M HAVING TO BEG Y'ALL TO HELP ME.
WHEN I JUST LEFT TODAY, HAD TO CALL THE POLICE AGAIN.
WHEN I LEFT MY APARTMENT TODAY, WHEN I LEFT FOR THE, WHEN I LEFT FOR LAST MONTH, I WAS ATTACKED ON MY WAY HOME.
AND I DON'T, THE, THE THING BEING IS THAT I'M NOT SEEING THE UC THAT I'M HAVING TO BEEF WITH.
SO I GUESS THEY GOT OTHERS THAT ARE ALSO HELPING THEM, KEEPING UP SOME TROUBLE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE THEY WANT ME TO GIVE IT TO 'EM, BUT I'M TRYING MY BEST TO GIVE IT TO YOU GUYS AS IT'S COMING, YOU KNOW? SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING THAT'S SO WRONG.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, ASK.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, THANK YOU MS. SOUL.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSISTENCE TO COME IN AND, AND SHARE YOUR STORY.
AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE THAT DISTRICT ONE.
DO I TALK TO HIM OR DO I TALK TO HIM? UH, BECAUSE I BEEN VICE CHAIR, VICE CHAIR SMITH SAYING HE'S DISTRICT ONE.
THANK YOU, MS. SO I'D LIKE TO NOW INVITE CECE CIO, UH, TO COME UP AND, UH, WELCOME, UH, TO THE CPOB.
AND, UH, YEAH, YOU, YOU KNOW THE DRILL THREE MINUTES AND, UM, WHENEVER THE TIME'S UP, OF COURSE, FINISH YOUR SENTENCE, YOUR THOUGHT.
UH, BUT WE'RE HAPPY YOU'RE HERE.
I'LL BE SUPER BRIEF 'CAUSE I KNOW IT HAS BEEN A LONG MEETING AND I DIDN'T EVEN PLAN TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
BUT, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE, UM, PROTESTING, I GUESS, AND, AND ASSEMBLIES LIKE MR. CHANGA, WE ARE ORGANIZERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE DO, UM, ATTEND PROTESTS AND ORGANIZE JUST RALLIES AND STUFF.
UM, I PERSONALLY AM SEEING A PATTERN OF PO HEAVY POLICE PRESENCE AND DRONES AT, UM, RALLIES AND LIKE VIGILS AND THINGS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE EITHER ON PRI PRIVATE PROPERTY OR IN PUBLIC SPACES LIKE THE RONALD KIRK PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
LIKE EVEN I HELD A CANDLELIGHT VIGIL IN MY COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE THAT WERE IN A DEAD, UH, KILLED IN A DRIVE-BY SHOOTING.
AND THERE WAS 10, 12 POLICE OFFICERS WITH A BUNCH OF SQUAD CARS WAITING OUT THERE WITH THEIR LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING WAITING FOR US FOR THIS CANDLELIGHT VIGIL.
AND LAST NIGHT, THE, THE, UH, WHAT WAS JUST A STANDING RALLY THAT TURNED INTO THIS CRAZY PROTEST THAT WAS PLANNED TO TAKE PART ON THE, UH, RONALD KIRK PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
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I WAS, I ATTENDED LAST NIGHT AND JUST PULLING UP THERE, THERE'S HELICOPTERS, THERE'S MULTIPLE DRONES FLYING AROUND, HOVERING OVER PEOPLE.THERE'S, UH, UH, UNDERCOVER POLICE CARS LINED UP FOR BLOCKS LEADING UP TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
AND AGAIN, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO, THAT DID START TAKING PLACE ON A, IN A PUBLIC AREA THAT'S A PARK THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE A PERMIT OR A POLICE ESCORT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANTED TO POINT OUT.
LIKE IF THERE'S A BUNCH OF COPS AND DRONES AND A BUNCH OF WEIRD SURVEILLANCE IN PLACES THAT DON'T REQUIRE THAT IT IS GONNA INSTIGATE PEOPLE TO GET P****D OFF AND FEEL LIKE WE'RE BEING HARASSED AND LIKE WE'RE BEING, UM, INTIMIDATED AND DETERRED FROM EXERCISING OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
BECAUSE YOU, IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO ASSEMBLE ON THE RONALD KIRK BRIDGE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
THANK YOU MS. S APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, UH, YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN HEARD AND SPOKEN.
I THINK THAT IS, UH, THAT IS ALL ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.
SO IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? ADJOURN? YES.
WHY DON'T YOU, YOU CAN COME UP HERE, WON'T YEAH, SHE ALREADY SPOKE.
YOU CAN HAVE, UH, TWO MINUTES.
I ALSO WANTED TO, HI, MY NAME IS DIANA.
I ALSO WANTED TO ADD, UM, AND THANK, UM, ALMA PEREZ.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S STILL HERE.
ALMAHA FOR THE DALLAS PD, NATIONAL GUN VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTHLY SAFETY FAIR.
UM, AND ALSO I WANTED TO SAY, UH, PERSONALLY THANK YOU.
AND ALSO SAY, AFTER LOSING MY DAUGHTER, UM, AND AFTER SURVIVING GUN VIOLENCE ON THREE OCCASIONS, I HAVE TURNED MY TRAGEDY INTO ACTION.
VOLUNTEERING AND ADVOCATING FOR RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERSHIP AND GUN SAFETY STORAGE CAMPAIGNS WITH MANY ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING SOME OF MY DEAR FRIENDS TODAY, AND GREAT LEADERS LIKE DR. WILLIAMS AT PARKLAND, TRAUMA SURGEON AND GUN VIOLENCE SURVIVOR HIMSELF, AND ALSO O'NEIL HESSEN AND CC AND, UM, LIKE MY DAUGHTER WOULD'VE WANTED ME TOO.
JUST THANK YOU, ALMA, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT, THAT, UH, YOU HAVE DONE FOR US.
AND, UH, YEAH, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE SHOUT OUT TO THANK YOU AS WELLBOARD.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE SHOUT TO MS. PEREZ.
AND THAT'S A GOOD, UH, AFFIRMATION TO CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK.
SO, UH, MR. MR. JACKSON, YOU WERE HALFWAY THROUGH THAT MOTION.
ONCE YOU FINISH THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING, A MOTION TO ADJOURN IS THERE A SECOND MS. BY, BY MS. KING.
ALL IN ANY DISCUSSION? THERE'S NONE.