Jun 18, 2025 Council Briefing

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YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

[Call to Order]

WE HAVE A QUORUM. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S WEDNESDAY.

IT'S WEDNESDAY, Y'ALL. JUNE 18TH, 2020. FIVE TIMES.

09:30 A.M.. AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

GREAT TO SEE ALL THE NEW FACES AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

WELCOME, EVERYONE. WELCOME. WE ALWAYS START MEETING OFF WITH AN INVOCATION.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE A IMMA DO SOME EXPLAINING THIS MORNING SINCE WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE.

AND MAYBE NOT EVERYBODY WATCHES CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS EVERY WEEK TO KIND OF KNOW HOW IT GOES.

SO I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH A FEW THINGS TODAY.

SO WE HAVE AN INVOCATION EVERY MORNING WHEN WE MEET.

AND USUALLY IT'S EITHER A CHAPLAIN OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT OR SINCE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A COLLEAGUE WHO IS A PASTOR. NOW WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE, SO MAYBE YOU WILL WORK YOU INTO THAT ROTATION.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. WE ACTUALLY ASK OUR OUR RESIDENT PASTOR TO DO IT.

SO THIS MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, OUR INVOCATION IS GOING TO BE GIVEN BY OUR COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN ZARIN D GRACEY FROM DISTRICT THREE, WHO ALSO SERVES AS AN EXECUTIVE PASTOR AT CONCORD CHURCH.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM. AND AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG.

SO, PASTOR, COUNCILMAN GRACEY, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

MR. MAYOR, I PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACE, ALLOWING THIS MEETING TO DELAY WHILE I WAS RUNNING LATE THIS MORNING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, I APPRECIATE IT.

LET US PRAY. GRACIOUS AND ALMIGHTY GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH HUMBLE HEARTS AS WE GATHER FOR THIS DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AS THE SOURCE OF ALL WISDOM, JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.

FATHER, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO WELCOME OUR NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS TO THIS CHAMBER TODAY AS THEY BEGIN THEIR SERVICE TO OUR GREAT CITY.

WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THEM WITH THE CLARITY OF PURPOSE, STRENGTH AND CHARACTER, AND AN UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO SERVE ALL OF OF THE OF DALLAS WITH INTEGRITY AND COMPASSION. LORD, HELP US TO REMEMBER THAT WE MAY COME FROM DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, AND DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

WE ARE UNITED IN OUR SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO THIS CITY AND ITS PEOPLE.

GRANT US THE WISDOM TO SEE BEYOND OUR DIFFERENCES AND WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

YOUR WORD TELLS US IN JAMES ONE AND FIVE THAT IF ANYONE, IF ANY OF YOU LACKS WISDOM, YOU SHOULD ASK GOD, WHO GIVES GENEROUSLY TO ALL WITHOUT FINDING FAULT AND TO ALL WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU.

TODAY WE HUMBLY ASK THAT WISDOM. ASK FOR THAT WISDOM.

LORD, WE FACE COMPLEX DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPACT LIVES OF OVER 1.3 MILLION RESIDENTS.

GRANT US WISDOM TO DISCERN THE RIGHT PATH FORWARD.

COURAGE TO MAKE DIFFICULT BUT NECESSARY DECISIONS.

HUMILITY TO LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER AND TO OTHER.

AND TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. UNITY OF PURPOSE IN SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

COMPASSION FOR THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING AND IN NEED.

HELP US TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TRUST THAT HAS BEEN PLACED IN US BY THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS.

AS WE CONDUCT THIS BUSINESS OF COUNSEL TODAY.

MAY OUR WORDS BE SEASONED WITH GRACE, OUR DECISIONS ROOTED IN JUSTICE, AND OUR ACTIONS MOTIVATED BY LOVE FOR THIS CITY AND ALL WHO CALL IT HOME.

WE PRAY FOR SAFETY OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THE PROSPERITY OF OUR BUSINESSES, THE SUCCESS OF OUR STUDENTS, THE WELL-BEING OF ALL, AND THE WELL-BEING OF ALL DALLAS FAMILIES.

BLESS OUR DELIBERATIONS TODAY. MAY. THE MAY AND MAY THE WORK WE DO HONOR YOU AND SERVE THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS WITH.

EXCELLENT. WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS HUMBLY IN YOUR HOLY NAME.

AMEN. EVERYONE, IF YOU ARE ABLE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU MAY BE SEATED. I HAVE A FEW BITS OF HOUSEKEEPING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS MORNING.

AND ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SPECIAL SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS.

BUT IN THE WAY OF HOUSEKEEPING AGAIN, I'M GOING TO TRY TO JUST EXPLAIN A COUPLE OF THINGS, HOPEFULLY ONCE AND ONLY ONCE FOR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO WE POST THE MEETINGS TO START AT A CERTAIN TIME.

BY LAW, WE CAN'T START THE MEETINGS BEFORE THAT TIME.

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A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL IS HOW MANY MEMBERS MADAM SECRETARY NINE, MR. MAYOR. NINE. SO IT IS MY NORMAL PRACTICE ON COUNCIL MEETING DAYS, SINCE EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD KNOWS THAT WE'RE IN THE BUILDING TO.

I'M IN MY OFFICE, HAVE MEETINGS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND THINGS GOING ON.

I WILL JOIN THE MEETING ONCE WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT IN THE CHAMBER.

SO TO THE NEW MEMBERS, IT HELPS US ALL TO GET THE MEETING STARTED ON TIME.

IF WE CAN GET A QUORUM, WHICH IS PEOPLE IN THE ROOM NOT NECESSARILY IN YOUR SEATS, BUT IN THE ROOM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AFTER NINE.

AGAIN, WE CAN'T START IT BEFORE NINE REGARDLESS, BUT ANY TIME AFTER NINE THAT WE GET A QUORUM, I WILL COME OUT AND WE WILL GET THE MEETING STARTED.

SO IT'S SORT OF IN YOUR HANDS HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET STARTED.

BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE NINE, SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF OPEN MEETINGS, A BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE A FEW SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS AND AN ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

[Special Presentations]

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE DO HAVE THREE SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS MORNING.

I'D LIKE TO START WITH A SPECIAL GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE.

EACH YEAR, THE CITY OF DALLAS FACILITATES A SUMMER INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THAT CONSISTS OF COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED AN INTEREST FOR WORKING IN PUBLIC SERVICE.

THESE STUDENTS HAVE TRAVELED NEAR AND FAR TO SPEND THEIR SUMMER MONTHS LENDING THEIR TALENTS AND THEIR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHILE DEVELOPING SKILLS THAT WILL SHAPE AND INFORM THEIR FUTURE AS PROFESSIONALS AND LEADERS.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND A WARM WELCOME TO OUR SUMMER INTERNS FOR 2025.

WHAT? OUR INTERNS. PLEASE STAND.

MAYOR JOHNSON, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND CONTINUING OUR FOCUS ON BRINGING YOUNG TALENT INTO THE ORGANIZATION DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. THESE INTERNS HAVE BEEN HIRED ON THEIR IN VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION FOR A TOTAL OF NINE WEEKS.

WE'RE SO VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE SUCH A TALENTED GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS DEDICATED TO CONTINUING OUR GOALS OF SERVICE FIRST.

WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE THE SKILLS THAT YOU LEARNED THIS SUMMER AND APPLY YOUR COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED AND BE INVOLVED.

AND WE KNOW THAT WITH YOUR SUPPORT, OUR CITY WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE BEST CITY ON THIS SIDE OF HEAVEN.

WITH THAT, MAYOR JOHNSON, WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE INTERNS DOWN TO TAKE A PHOTO WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'D BE WONDERFUL. AND OUR RAILS ARE DOWN ON THIS SIDE ALREADY.

SO IF YOU'LL COME ON DOWN AND MAYBE YOU CAN COME RIGHT THROUGH MY LEFT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND COME INSIDE THE RAILING AND ARRANGE YOURSELVES AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

I AM THE CENTER. SO IF YOU CENTER YOURSELF ON ME, YOU'LL BE IN GOOD SHAPE.

AND THEN WE'LL STAND UP BEHIND YOU. AND IT MAKES FOR A NICE PHOTO.

SO COME ON DOWN. AND WE'RE SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU ALL.

YOU LOOK FANTASTIC. YOU GUYS, YOU DO LOOK GREAT.

OKAY. I SEE SOME FUTURE CITY MANAGERS IN IN THE GROUP AND SOME FUTURE POLICE CHIEFS. AND HOPEFULLY NONE OF YOU MAKE THE MISTAKE OF GOING DOWN THE WHOLE MAYOR PATH.

JUST DO THE WHOLE PUBLIC SERVICE PATH ON THE STAFF SIDE.

RIGHT HERE IS THE CENTER. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LARGEST GROUP WE'VE HAD.

REALLY, IT'S A GREAT LOOKING GROUP. I'M I'M SURE THERE'S A MAYOR IN THE GROUP SOMEWHERE. AND IT'S NOT A BAD GIG. IT'S NOT A BAD GIG. YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. HAVE A GREAT SUMMER, Y'ALL.

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MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, I'D LIKE TO MOVE NOW TO OUR SECOND RECOGNITION FOR THIS MORNING.

I'D LIKE TO FORMALLY RECOGNIZE A MEMBER OF OUR OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS TEAM, LISA BLOWING.

LISA, WILL YOU PLEASE COME FORWARD? FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS, LISA HAS SERVED WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND SHE IS OFFICIALLY STARTING A NEW JOURNEY OF SERVICE TO HERSELF AS A NEW RETIREE.

LISA, WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE.

LISA HAS BEEN ON THE FRONT LINE IN OUR OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, WORKING AS A KEY MEMBER OF OUR STREET OUTREACH TEAM.

WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO SERVICE. FIRST, YOUR WORK ETHIC AND THE INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT YOU HAVE MADE TO OUR CITY WILL CONTINUE TO SHAPE ITS SUCCESS AND ITS GROWTH.

YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR PROFESSIONALISM HAVE SET A STANDARD THAT INSPIRES AND MOTIVATES ALL OF US.

YOU HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US WORK WITH OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, HELPING THEM OBTAIN IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS, INCLUDING THEIR STATE ISSUED IDS, SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS, BIRTH CERTIFICATES, AND IN ADDITION TO ALL THE VITAL TOOLS THAT TRULY PROVIDE THAT WRAPAROUND APPROACH YOU HAVE BEYOND YOUR PROFESSIONAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS, SHOWED UP WITH A POSITIVE SPIRIT AND WITH THE CAN DO ATTITUDE EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MENTORSHIP, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF AN INVALUABLE TEAM WHO TRULY APPRECIATE AND VALUE THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE.

IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR OUTSTANDING SERVICE. WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL LETTER SYMBOLIZING OUR APPRECIATION TO YOU AND OUR GRATITUDE FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR OUR CITY. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR YOUR LOYALTY.

THANK YOU FOR THE REMARKABLE SERVICE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE LETTER, AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL GIFT THAT WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS MORNING.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. SO LISA IS NOT SHY. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME REMARKS.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE TWO GIFTS TO YOU.

THANK YOU. FIRST, GIVING HONOR TO GOD WHO IS THE HEAD OF MY LIFE.

THIS IS KIND OF AN EMOTIONAL MOMENT FOR ME. I CAME TO DALLAS IN 2005 DUE TO HURRICANE KATRINA. I CAME TO DALLAS BASICALLY WITH THE CLOTHES ON MY BACK.

BUT I CAME HERE ON A MISSION. A MISSION THAT WAS A CALLING TO MY LIFE FOR OVER 30 SOMETHING YEARS.

AND WHEN I GOT HERE. I HAD TWO KIDS THAT KIDS I NEVER HAD.

AND THOSE KIDS WAS MY PARENTS. SEVEN MONTHS AGO, I LOST BOTH OF MY PARENTS.

AND IT'S BEEN HARD. BUT I'VE KEPT THE FAITH. KEPT THE FAITH IN GOD.

I TOOK CARE OF THEM FOR 20 YEARS. I WORKED, TOOK CARE OF THEM, CAME TO WORK.

POSITIVE ATTITUDE. AND MY CALLING HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO WORK WITH THE HOMELESS.

UNSHELTERED. NOW MY MISSION HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

IT HAS BEEN VERY CHALLENGING BUT VERY REWARDING.

AND I THANK THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR ACCEPTING ME, LITTLE ME, FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE.

YES, I'M GOING TO MISS DALLAS. YES, I'M GOING TO MISS MY JOB.

BUT MY JOURNEY HAS TO CONTINUE AND I WILL ALWAYS BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE HOMELESS.

WHEN I WALKED THE STREETS OF DALLAS AND I LOOK AT THE UNSHELTERED, I CAN KIND OF PUT MYSELF IN THEIR SHOES BECAUSE MYSELF, I LOST EVERYTHING. BUT I DIDN'T USE MY DIDN'T LOSE MY FAITH IN GOD, AND HE HELPED ME TO DEAL WITH THEM, THEIR STRUGGLE, THEIR STORY, THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

AND I HAVE ACTUALLY HOUSED SO MANY OVER THE YEARS.

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THAT HAS BEEN MY BACKBONE. I THANK CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CALLS THAT THE HELP THAT YOU ALL NEEDED.

AND I WAS THERE LATE CALLS THAT I GOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT JUST TO HELP SOMEONE GET INTO A SHELTER.

I THANK ALL THE SHELTERS HERE THAT NEVER TOLD ME KNOW WHEN IT WAS THE NEED FOR SOMEONE TO GET IN OUT OF THE COLD DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER. MY PARTNER AND I DROVE AROUND AND GOT SO MANY PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS INTO THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND JUST TO SEE THE SMILES ON THEIR FACE.

YES, YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO KNOW, I DON'T WANT THE HELP, BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK.

AND ONCE THEY SEE A FAMILIAR FACE SHOWING THEM THAT YOU CARE AND YOU'RE THERE FOR THEM.

MY WORK IS DONE NOW. CITY OF DALLAS. I'M GOING TO MISS YOU ALL.

AND I THANK YOU ALL FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE. CAN I GET A PICTURE? CAN WE GET US? YES, MA'AM.

SHE DOES. WE'RE ALWAYS DOWN FOR A PICTURE. YOU KNOW, WE.

WE'RE VAIN POLITICIANS. AND WE'LL. WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE WITH ANYBODY.

ANYTIME. COME ON. PROUD OF YOU.

YEAH.

AWESOME. THANK YOU.

OKAY, MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE LAST SPECIAL RECOGNITION THIS MORNING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT BEFORE WE WELCOME OUR NEW DIRECTOR OF DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY, MATTHEW SHAW. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN AN EXCEPTIONAL LEADER AND A VITAL PART OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY TEAM IN THE VIBRANT PORTFOLIO FOR OUR CITY. HEATHER LOWE, WILL YOU PLEASE COME OUT? HEATHER. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, HEATHER HAS SERVED AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY WITH OUTSTANDING DEDICATION, PROFESSIONALISM AND HEART. HEATHER PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN CO-DEVELOPING THE LIBRARY'S LIBRARY STRATEGIC PLAN AND HELPING TO HELP CHART A CLEAR PATH FOR HOW WE GROW, INNOVATE AND BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITIES.

SHE HAS ALSO LED THE LAUNCH OF THE CITY'S FIRST EVER DIGITAL REPOSITORY, A MAJOR MILESTONE THAT MAKES MORE THAN 12,000 HISTORICAL AND CULTURAL ITEMS FROM OUR SPECIAL COLLECTIONS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

HEATHER HAS SPENT MEANINGFUL TIME IN OUR BRANCHES, WORKING CLOSELY WITH TEAMS TO BUILD STAFF CAPACITY AND STRENGTHEN THE ESSENTIAL CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR FRONTLINE STAFF AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY SERVE.

SHE HAS ALSO LEARNED SPANISH TO IMPROVE HER SPANISH SPEAKING SKILLS, TO CONNECT FURTHER WITH THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE HERE IN OUR CITY, AND IS A STRONG COLLABORATIVE PARTNER, ENGAGING WITH SEVERAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, CITY DEPARTMENTS AND RESIDENTS ACROSS THE CITY.

HEATHER, WE WANT TO THANK YOU THIS MORNING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CALM LEADERSHIP, YOUR STEADY PRESENCE, AND YOUR DEEP COMMITMENT WE KNOW IS TRULY APPRECIATED BY ALL.

WE ARE INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, AND WE ARE HONORED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU IN YOUR OWN GOING LEADERSHIP ROLE WITH THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY. PLEASE JOIN ME IN GIVING HEATHER LO A ROUND OF APPLAUSE AND THANKING HER FOR HER SERVICE AS THE INTERIM LIBRARY DIRECTOR.

AND MR. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE OUR NEW LIBRARY DIRECTOR THAT WE WANT TO BRING OUT AS WELL THIS MORNING.

SHE'S HERE. AMEN. GOOD MORNING. AND SO WE. SHE'S A LIBRARIAN.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT.

MY NAME IS MARIA SHAW, AND I'M YOUR NEW LIBRARY DIRECTOR.

I AM SO THRILLED TO BE HERE TO MEET ALL OF YOU, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITIZENS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY OF DALLAS.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK HEATHER LOWE FOR HER SERVICE, HER LONG TENURE AT THE AT THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY.

YOU ALL WERE IN GOOD HANDS WITH HER. I WILL BE REACHING OUT.

I WOULD LOVE TO SIT DOWN, TALK LIBRARIES, TALK THE FUTURE, AND REALLY JUST TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN SERVE OUR COMMUNITY IN THE BEST WAY WE CAN THROUGH THE LIBRARY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I WOULD JUST SAY I RECENTLY HEARD TRANSFORMATIVE CEO JAMES RHEE SAY THAT KINDNESS IS AN INVESTMENT IN OTHER PEOPLE'S AGENCY. AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY SUMS UP THE WORK THAT WE DO IN THE LIBRARY, BECAUSE EVERY PERSON THAT COMES IN, WE TREAT WHATEVER QUESTION THEY HAVE WITH THE SAME SERIOUSNESS, WHETHER IT'S A FIVE YEAR OLD ASKING ABOUT DINOSAURS OR IT'S A 70 YEAR OLD ASKING HOW TO USE THEIR MOBILE PHONE. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

AND I KNOW THAT THE LIBRARY WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW THAT KINDNESS TO EVERYONE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE THIS MORNING. WE HAVE ONE MORE SPECIAL PRESENTATION AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO I GET USED TO THIS NEW SEATING ARRANGEMENT.

YES. MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU AND WELCOME, EVERYBODY TO CITY HALL.

CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR AND DISTINGUISHED GUESTS.

TODAY, I'M HONORED TO RECOGNIZE A GROUP OF EXCEPTIONAL ATHLETES WHO HAVE NOT ONLY BROUGHT PRIDE TO OUR CITY, BUT HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE DEDICATION, PERSEVERANCE AND TEAMWORK THAT DEFINE TRUE CHAMPIONS.

DALLAS UNITED CREW HAS ONCE AGAIN PROVEN ITS EXCELLENCE ON THE WATER, SECURING REMARKABLE VICTORIES IN BOTH THE TEXAS STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS AND THE US ROWING CENTRAL YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIPS, COMPETING IN 24 EVENTS.

MEDDLING IN 17 AND TAKING HOME GOLD IN NINE AT THE STATE LEVEL.

THIS TEAM HAS SHOWN EXTRAORDINARY STRENGTH AND DETERMINATION.

THEIR DOMINANCE CONTINUED AT THE CENTRAL YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIPS, WHERE THEY SECURED MEN'S POINTS, WOMEN'S POINTS AND OVERALL POINTS, ESTABLISHING THEMSELVES AS LEADERS IN THE REGION.

THESE ACHIEVEMENTS ARE NOT JUST A TESTAMENT OF THEIR PHYSICAL ENDURANCE AND SKILL, BUT ALSO TO THEIR UNWAVERING WAVERING COMMITMENT TO THEIR SPORT, THEIR TEAM, AND TO THE VALUES OF HARD WORK AND DISCIPLINE.

THEIR SUCCESS REFLECTS THE COUNTLESS HOURS OF TRAINING.

WE SEE YOU ON THE LAKE EARLY MORNINGS, AND SUPPORT THE DEDICATED COACHES AND FAMILIES AND THE PASSION THEY BRING TO EVERY COMPETITION.

BEYOND THE VICTORIES, DALLAS UNITED CREW SERVES AS AN INSPIRATION TO YOUNG ATHLETES ACROSS OUR CITY, IMPROVING THEM TEAMWORK, DEDICATION AND PERSEVERANCE TO PAVE THE WAY FOR EXCELLENCE.

THEIR IMPACT EXTENDS BEYOND COMPETITION, REINFORCING THE VALUES OF LEADERSHIP AND SPORTSMANSHIP WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND FOR THAT, WE THANK YOU OUR ON BEHALF OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OF DALLAS, I EXTEND MY DEEPEST CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, THE MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS UNITED CREW, ON THEIR INCREDIBLE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

YOU'VE MADE OUR CITY PROUD. YOU'VE BEEN GREAT AMBASSADORS, AND WE CELEBRATE YOU TODAY AS CHAMPIONS IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD.

SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING EAST DALLAS PROUD AND FOR HELPING US KEEP WHITEROCK LIKE A TRUE GEM.

AND WE WILL GET IT DREDGED. YOUR DEDICATION, SPORTSMANSHIP, AND SUCCESS BRING TREMENDOUS HONOR TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU EVEN MORE GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS. CAN WE GET A PICTURE? ARE WE GOING TO DO A PHOTOGRAPH? COME ON DOWN.

SO CAN THE MEMBERS OF THE DUCK. COME ON DOWN AND WE'LL GET A PICTURE.

AND I WILL GIVE YOU YOUR PROCLAMATIONS. YES. PLEASE COME DOWN AND LET'S HAVE A PICTURE.

WHAT PAULA JUST SAID.

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CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. AND NOW WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON TO OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS. MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU,

[Open Microphone Speakers (Part 1 of 2)]

I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS ARE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU WILL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON. ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER. CARROLL.

BILL WALTON. MISS WALTON IS VIRTUAL. GOOD MORNING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

TWO WEEKS AGO IN LAKEWOOD, WE HAD AN ATTEMPTED ARMED HIJACKING OF AN 87 YEAR OLD MAN'S VEHICLE AND AN ARMED HIJACKING OF A DELIVERY VEHICLE. DPD RESPONDED IN FORCE, BUT THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM.

I HAVE A VERY, VERY TROUBLED NEIGHBOR, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE DPD HAS DONE, BUT I HAVE IDENTIFIED THREE AREAS OF TRAINING WHERE I THINK THE RESPONSE COULD HAVE BEEN IMPROVED. THE FIRST IS THAT I CALLED DPD OVER HALF A DOZEN TIMES.

I WOULD CALL THEM EVERY WEEK OR SO TO CHECK ON MY TROUBLED NEIGHBORS MOTHER.

EVERY TIME I WOULD SAY THAT HE WAS MENTALLY ILL, THAT HE HAD POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER, THAT HE WAS PARANOID THAT HE HAD, THAT HE PROBABLY HAD WEAPONS.

BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL I WAS TOLD ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I NEEDED TO ASK FOR A RIGHT CARE TEAM.

BUT THE RESPONSE WAS ELEVATED. NOW, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE A RESIDENCE RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW ABOUT RIGHT CARE OR TO REFER AN INDIVIDUAL TO REFER A SITUATION RIGHT. CARE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT THE 911 LEVEL.

WHEN THEY HEAR THOSE WORDS ABOUT MENTALLY ILL, ABOUT POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS SYNDROME, ABOUT PARANOIA.

THAT'S WHEN THE SYSTEM NEEDS TO KICK IN AND NOT DEPEND ON AN INDIVIDUAL.

THE SECOND WAS THAT I. I CALLED NUMEROUS TIMES FOR A WELFARE CHECK FOR HIS MOTHER AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK, ONCE EVERY OTHER WEEK, WHEN SHE WAS REMOVED FROM THE HOME FOUR WEEKS AGO.

SHE SPENT THREE WEEKS IN THE HOSPITAL FOR DEHYDRATION AND MALNUTRITION.

EVERY POLICE OFFICER I TALKED TO MENTIONED SHE HAS DEMENTIA.

NOW, I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE TAKING A PERSON WITH DEMENTIA AS WORD THAT THEY ARE, THAT THEY ARE FINE.

I THINK THAT THE THAT THE, THE SEVERITY OF HER MALNUTRITION AND DEHYDRATION SHOWED THAT SHE WAS VERY, VERY CLOSE TO BEING LOST. THE FINAL THING THAT WENT WRONG WAS THIS INDIVIDUAL LIVES FOUR HOUSES FROM LAKEWOOD AND TOOK OFF ON A PATH TOWARDS LAKEWOOD ELEMENTARY. THERE WERE KIDS AT LAKE HILL, AND THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY NOTICE TO TO PUT THE KIDS IN HOLD OR PUT THE SCHOOL ON LOCKDOWN.

DIS TPD DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY NOTICE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WERE KIDS AT LAKEWOOD OR NOT.

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ONE WAS A PISTOL WITH A 7 OR 8 THAT HELD 7 OR 8 ROUNDS.

SO WE HAD A GUNMAN LOOSE IN LAKEWOOD, FOUR HOUSES AWAY FROM LAKE HILL PREP, AND THEY WERE NOT NOTIFIED.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TRAINING. OTHERWISE, DPD DID AN ADMIRABLE JOB OF STOPPING THE SITUATION.

THAT'S YOUR TIME FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

LEON HOLMAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COUNCIL.

I'M GOING TO DO THIS IN REVERSE ORDER. BECAUSE WHEN IF YOU CAN SEE THROUGH MY EYES, YOU SEE SOME PEOPLE LOOKING AT ME LIKE.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY WHAT? I'M THE REASON I'M DRESSED LIKE THIS FIRST BEFORE MY ORIGINAL TOPIC.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS WATCHING A COUNCIL SESSION AND A GENTLEMAN CAME DOWN HERE, HAD ON A ZEBRA OUTFIT WHAT THE OFFICIALS WERE FOR THE NBA OR BASKETBALL. AND HE WAS MAKING MENTION OF THE FACT THAT.

OH, NIKO GOT TRADED AS IF YOU GUYS, THE COUNCIL, THE CITY OF DALLAS, HAD SOME KIND OF A CONTROL OVER THAT.

WELL, SINCE THEN, THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE TRADE.

AND NOW WE HAVE THE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK. SO THE LEADERSHIP OF NICO WAS ACCURATE.

BUT NOBODY'S SAYING THAT. AND I'M SEGWAY INTO WHAT I'M SAYING IS AS I STAND HERE WHEN I SUGGEST SOMETHING TO THE COUNCIL.

I'M JUST AS COMPETENT AS ANYONE ELSE. IN FACT, MISS BLOOM, THE LADY WHO JUST HONORED SHE WAS MY CASEWORKER WHEN I WAS HOMELESS.

AND NOW I'M A PHD CANDIDATE. SO I'M NOT. HOW CAN YOU SAY IT? ILLITERATE. OKAY. JOHN LEWIS, THE CIVIL RIGHTS ADVOCATE, HAD A SAYING.

WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING. SO I SAW ON TELEVISION WHERE $50 MILLION WAS COMMITTED TO BUILD THE DALLAS WINGS, A PRACTICE FACILITY. WELL, THE DALLAS WINGS ARE THE WORST TEAM IN THE NBA.

BUT WHEN PEOPLE COME DOWN AND SAY, CAN YOU USE SOME OF THAT MONEY TO OPEN UP A HOSPITAL ON HAMPTON? CAN YOU USE SOME OF THAT MONEY TO BUILD A ECONOMIC COMPLEX ON WHEATLAND THAT WILL EMPLOY 100 PEOPLE CREATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAX REVENUE. IT'S AS IF IF THAT PERSON LOOKS LIKE MAYBE WHAT? I LOOK LIKE THAT. THAT IDEA IS LIKE, WELL, IT CAME FROM HIM, SO IT CAN'T BE ANY GOOD.

SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THIS COUNCIL, SINCE THIS COUNCIL CAN FIND $50 MILLION TO BUILD A PRACTICE FACILITY FOR A BAD TEAM. WHY CAN'T IT TAKE SOME OF THAT MONEY AND USE IT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY? LIKE A HOSPITAL, LIKE AN ECONOMIC COMPLEX? BECAUSE TO ME, THE PRIORITIES NEED TO BE REORGANIZED HERE BECAUSE SOME OF THAT MONEY. WELL, LET'S GO TO A AT&T AND SAY, WELL, AMERICAN AIRLINES AND SAY, WELL, CAN WE GIVE YOU $10 MILLION TO LET THEM PRACTICE AND WE CAN TAKE THIS OTHER 20,000,030 MILLION OR WHATEVER AND BUILD A FACILITY, A HOSPITAL, AN ECONOMIC COMPLEX.

I CERTAINLY HOPE YOU GUYS CAN UNDERSTAND WHY I'M SAYING THIS.

AND SOME OF YOU STILL ARE LOOKING AT ME LIKE, WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME? THANK YOU. ERICA. COLE. ERICA. COLE. THANK YOU.

FOR TODAY. WELL, IT'S NICE TO SEE A BUNCH OF OLD FACES AND NEW FACES, TOO.

AND MAYOR. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. I WAS BORN IN DALLAS, AND I'VE SPENT MOST OF MY LIFE HERE.

I STARTED PROTESTING AND MARCHING AND RALLYING IN THE 60S DURING THE VIETNAM WAR AND HAVE CONTINUED ON.

I WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR CITY OF DALLAS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR ORGANIZING SUCH AN AWESOME, WELL RUN, SAFE GATHERING. LAST WEEK I ONLY SAW ONE UNIFORM POLICE OFFICER, BUT I KNOW THEY WERE OUT THERE, AND MOST OF US STUDIED ABOUT RUBBER BULLETS BEFORE WE WENT TO THIS LAST PROTEST OR RALLY AND LEARNED ABOUT TEAR GAS AND WERE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED.

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WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST REPUTATION, BUT I THINK THIS TIME 10,000 PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU. TERRELL BURNETT. TERRELL BURNETT TERRELL BURNETT IS NOT PRESENT. DARRELL BLAIR.

GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE COUNCIL. GOOD MORNING.

I'M DARRELL BLAIR, PUBLISHING EDITOR OF THE ELITE NEWS HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

PUBLISHING NOW FOR 66 YEARS. IN 1977, I WAS ONE OF 18 BLACK KIDS FROM OAK CLIFF MORELAND BRANCH YMCA TROJAN SOCCER TEAM THAT WE WERE THE FIRST ALL BLACK SOCCER TEAM TO WIN A CITY CHAMPIONSHIP UNDER THE COACHING OF ETHIOPIA NATIVE COACH CAIRO.

THE CITY OF DALLAS, MONICA POWELL, DAN HUNT AND EVEN NOEL LAVEAU, VICE PRESIDENT OF MARKETING, HAVE BEEN DERELICT NINE MATCH GAMES IN THE MEDIA HEADQUARTERS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WE, THE MINORITY MEDIA, HAVE BEEN WALLED OFF LIKE THE POOR AND IMPOVERISHED CITIZENS OF SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA, DURING THE 1988 OLYMPICS.

WE HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED AND EXCLUDED ECONOMICALLY, CULTURALLY, RACIALLY, SOCIALLY, LOGISTICALLY.

INFORMATIONALLY. ENGAGEMENT AND OPPORTUNITY WISE, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT, SET ASIDES OR SPECIAL PROVISIONS, BUT RATHER THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE BASED ON SWEAT EQUITY AND PRODUCTIVITY.

AFTER ALL, WHEN YOU NEEDED VOTES FOR THOSE BOND PROGRAMS, YOU INCLUDED US.

THE BLACK MEDIA. WHAT CABLE FOR THE BLACK MEDIA? WHAT CAPABLE, CAPABLE, AND COMPETENT INDIVIDUALS SET IN A ROOM AND DIDN'T THINK TO REACH OUT AND BE ALL INCLUSIVE AND PROCESS THE CULTURAL EFFECTS. WE HAVE SOCCER MOMS WHO ARE BLACK. WE PLAY SOCCER.

THERE ARE A GREAT NUMBER OF BLACK SOCCER PLAYERS ON FC DALLAS ALONE.

SO WHAT ABOUT THE BLACK CULTURAL ENGAGEMENT WITH THE MINORITY PRESS AND COMMUNITY? AND YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ECONOMICALLY INVOLVED.

NOW MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE TO ME. I WANT TO CHALLENGE YOU THE WAY MY FATHER CHALLENGED US EVERY TIME WE CAME UP AGAINST THE TASK.

WHEN YOU KNOW BETTER, YOU DO BETTER. WHEN YOU KNOW BETTER AND YOU DO BETTER, YOU DO WHAT? I NEED ALL OF Y'ALL TO MAKE THIS BETTER FOR THE GREATER GOOD. INCLUDE THE BLACK PRESS. THANK YOU, CHERYL SMITH. THANK YOU.

MICHAEL SIMMONS HAS CANCELED ALEX SCOTT.

GOOD MORNING. HI, ALL. MY NAME IS ALEX SCOTT.

I AM A PROUD MEMBER OF DISTRICT NINE AND AN INDIVIDUAL THAT MOVED HERE BACK IN 2019 WHEN MY COMPANY RELOCATED TO DALLAS BECAUSE OF HOW WONDERFUL IT IS. AS WE GATHER. FOLLOWING MAYOR JOHNSON'S 2025 INAUGURATION SPEECH WHERE HE CALLED PUBLIC SAFETY AS OUR HIGHEST CALLING AND THE GREATEST RESPONSIBILITY, I MUST ADDRESS A CRITICAL BLIND SPOT IN OUR APPROACH.

WHILE WE CELEBRATE THE DECLINING VIOLENT CRIME AND INCREASED POLICE STAFFING, WE ARE DANGEROUSLY NEGLECTING THE DIGITAL THREATS THAT PUT DALLAS AT UNPRECEDENTED RISK. THE THREATS TO OUR DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR RESIDENTS DATA AND OUR CITY'S REPUTATION ARE GREATER THAN EVER BEFORE.

DALLAS HAS ENDURED FIVE MAJOR CYBERSECURITY INCIDENTS, AFFECTING OVER 2000 230,000 RESIDENTS, COSTING MORE THAN $20 MILLION, A STAGGERING 23,000% INCREASE TO THIS CITY.

YET WE REMAIN HYPER FOCUSED ON PHYSICAL SAFETY WHILE IGNORING DIGITAL VULNERABILITIES.

DALLAS IS THE SECOND HIGHEST MUNICIPAL DATA BREACH, ONLY BEHIND COLUMBUS, OHIO, WHICH ENDURED A SIX TERABYTE DATA BREACH IN 2024. 24. AND WE ARE ABOUT TO DO BUSINESS WITH A COMPANY THAT'S HEADQUARTERED IN COLUMBUS, OHIO. IK SMART CITY KIOSKS. BOTH OF US HAD DATA BREACHES AND WE DID NOT GET THAT DATA BACK.

WE ARE ABOUT TO DEPLOY INTEGRATED DIGITAL KIOSKS INTO OUR CITY FROM A COMPANY THAT DOES NOT HAVE

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WE HAD CYBERSECURITY THREATS AT THE DISTRICT, AT THE CITY AND AT THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE A MASSIVE THREAT TO OUR CITY THAT WHEN THE WORLD CUP HITS HERE, WE WILL BE EXPOSED MORE THAN ANYTHING.

AND I DO NOT THINK THAT WE ARE PREPARED FOR THAT.

I REALLY PROPOSE THAT WITH THE INCREASE IN PUBLIC SPENDING FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WE STAND UP A CYBERSECURITY DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE POLICE DIVISION.

WE DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND ANY MORE MONEY. WE CAN SHOWCASE HOW DALLAS IS TAKING SERIOUS TO YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. BUT I'LL BE BACK ANYWAYS. THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS. THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CONCLUSION OF ITS CITY BUSINESS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA,

[1. 25-2106A Approval of Minutes of the June 4, 2025 City Council Meeting]

LOOKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR THIS MEETING,

[2. 25-2107A Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

WONDERFUL. FOR YOUR BRIEFINGS. CONTINUE, MR. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR OUR BRIEFINGS FOR TODAY.

[A. 25-1789A FY 2025-26 and FY 2026-27 Biennial Budget Update and Discussion]

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. AND THIS MORNING, WE'D LIKE TO START WITH BRIEFING ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, THE 20 2526 AND THE 2627 BIENNIAL BUDGET UPDATE AND DISCUSSION. THIS BRIEFING IS TO TO SHARE WITH YOU THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR FISCAL YEAR 26 AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BIENNIAL BUDGET. WHILE TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS AN UPDATE, IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT A LOT OF WORK REMAINS BEFORE WE PRESENT OUR PROPOSED BUDGET TO YOU LATER IN THE SUMMER.

I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, JACK ARLAND, TO BEGIN TODAY'S PRESENTATION WITH HIS TEAM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MISS TOLBERT, AND GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I AM JACK ARLAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE CITY.

AS MISS TOLBERT MENTIONED, WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE OF OUR PROGRESS IN DEVELOPING A BALANCED BUDGET TO BRING TO YOU IN AUGUST FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 AND FISCAL YEAR 27. I'M JOINED WITH MEMBERS OF THE BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT WILL BE CONTRIBUTING TO TODAY'S PRESENTATION ON SLIDE NUMBER TWO. JUST AS AN OVERVIEW, DURING THIS PRESENTATION, WE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE OF GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND EXPENSES, DISCUSS OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, OUR CAPITAL AND DEBT SERVICE FUNDS REVIEW COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT INITIATIVES.

PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF A PERFORMANCE METRIC INITIATIVE AND DISCUSS OUR NEXT STEPS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT TODAY IS A SNAPSHOT.

WE ARE NOT FINISHED WITH OUR WORK. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS.

NUMBERS WILL CHANGE FROM TODAY'S PRESENTATION AND WE WILL BRING YOU A BALANCED BUDGET IN AUGUST ON AUGUST THE 12TH.

ON SLIDE NUMBER THREE. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW MEMBERS, SO YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING THAT IS INCLUDED IN A CITY'S BUDGET.

SO LAST YEAR WHEN WE PRESENTED THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, WE ALSO LAID OUT A SECOND YEAR, OUR FISCAL YEAR 26. COUNCIL DID NOT ADOPT THAT BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, BUT WE LAID OUT A BALANCED BUDGET BETWEEN REVENUES AND EXPENSES IN JULY OF 24. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS PAGE.

THIS IS PRESENTED LAST SUMMER. BUT IT'S OUR STARTING POINT AND WE'RE WORKING FROM THIS.

AND WE WILL MAKE CHANGES TO THIS. AND YOU WILL SEE THE NEW BUDGET WHEN WE COME BACK IN AUGUST.

WHAT YOU SEE HERE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THE CITY'S BUDGET IS MADE UP OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDS, AND THOSE INCLUDE OUR OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH IS OUR DAY TO DAY O&M.

THE COST RELATED TO RUNNING THE CITY ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

THOSE ARE REFLECTED ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE.

AND THEN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET, WHICH IS OUR FUNDS THAT WE USE TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT'S STREETS OR PARKS,

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AGAIN, OUR STARTING POINT IS $5.1 BILLION, INCLUDING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FUNDS OF THE CITY.

AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO MISS WEEDEN, WHO WILL TALK THROUGH SEVERAL CHANGES THAT WE ARE ALREADY BEGINNING TO MAKE, AND SHE WILL PROVIDE THOSE UPDATES. THANK YOU, MR. IRELAND. SO MOVING ON TO SLIDE NUMBER FIVE. AGAIN, WE ARE SHOWING HERE ON THIS SLIDE THE FISCAL YEAR 26 PLANNED GENERAL FUND REVENUE BUDGET.

AS MR. IRELAND MENTIONED, THIS IS THE BUDGET THAT WE DEVELOPED LAST SUMMER.

THIS IS THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS 1.98 BILLION. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SLIDE, PROPERTY TAX IS OUR LARGEST SOURCE OF REVENUE AT 58%.

THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS. PROPERTY TAXES MAKE UP CLOSE TO HALF OF TOTAL LOCAL TAX REVENUE IN TEXAS.

THE REMAINING SOURCES INCLUDE SALES TAX AT 25%, FRANCHISE AND OTHER AT 7%, AND ALL OTHERS SUCH AS CHARGES FOR SERVICES, FINES AND FEES, INTEREST EARNINGS, INTERGOVERNMENTAL TRANSFERS, ETC.

REPRESENT 5%. MOVING ON TO SLIDE SIX, YOU CAN SEE THE HISTORICAL COLLECTION OF PROPERTY TAX.

I'M SORRY. MOVING ON TO SLIDE NUMBER SIX. YOU CAN SEE THE REVENUE CATEGORIES.

SO ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THE PIE CHART COMBINED OTHER REVENUE INTO THAT 5% OF ALL OTHER SOURCES.

AND HERE ON SLIDE NUMBER SIX YOU CAN SEE THOSE CATEGORIES THAT ARE IN THE OTHER AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CHART.

ON SLIDE NUMBER SIX YOU CAN SEE THE YEAR OVER YEAR GROWTH COMPARING ACTUALS TO ACTUALS.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE NUMBER SEVEN. THE CURRENT YEAR FISCAL YEAR BUDGET IS REPRESENTED IN THE FIRST COLUMN.

THE SECOND COLUMN REPRESENTS OUR REVENUE FORECAST THROUGH APRIL.

WE DO COMMUNICATE A YEAR IN FORECAST IN OUR MONTHLY BUDGET ACCOUNTABILITY REPORT.

AND AS MENTIONED IN OUR GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT UPDATES, WE HAVE REVISED OUR PROPERTY FORECAST PROPERTY TAX FORECAST DUE TO PROPERTY. PROPERTY TAX LITIGATION. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT LITIGATION IN MORE DETAIL ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

THE THIRD COLUMN ON THIS CHART REFLECTS OUR FISCAL YEAR, PLANNED REVENUE BUDGET.

SO AGAIN, SHOWING THAT DETAIL. THIS NUMBER TIES BACK TO THE NUMBER ON SLIDE NUMBER FIVE.

AND AGAIN, WE'LL KEEP MENTIONING THAT THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT WAS DEVELOPED LAST SUMMER.

THE LAST TWO COLUMNS REFLECT OUR PRELIMINARY OR OUR REVISED PROJECTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 AND 27.

SO YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PARTICULAR CHART THAT WE HAVE REVISED OUR PROPERTY TAX FORECAST, AS WELL AS OUR SALES TAX FORECAST ON SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT. YOU SEE THE CHANGES. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE COMPARING THE FISCAL YEAR PLAN BUDGET TO OUR MAY FORECAST WHEN WE WERE HERE BEFORE YOU IN MAY, WE TALKED ABOUT SHORTFALL IN PROPERTY TAXES AT 7.2 MILLION.

WE HAVE UPDATED OUR PROPERTY TAX COLLECTION RATE.

AND SO NOW OUR JUNE FORECAST WE'RE SHOWING 13.3 MILLION SHORTFALL.

AND THEN OUR CONTRACT ECONOMIST HAS UPDATED OUR SALES TAX FORECAST.

AND SO WE ARE SHOWING AN $8 MILLION SHORTFALL.

AND THAT'S PRIMARILY BASED ON CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.

THE FORECAST IS CONSERVATIVE FOR SALES TAX. AND OF COURSE THIS IS DUE TO THE FINANCIAL MARKET RISK, WHICH REMAINS ELEVATED. THE OTHER REVENUE IN THIS CATEGORY AGAIN, INCLUDES FRANCHISE CHARGES FOR SERVICES, FINES AND FORFEITURES. AND SO THAT $800,000 INCREASE IS DRIVEN PRIMARILY BY INTEREST EARNINGS.

SO WE ARE STARTING OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITH A REVENUE CHANGE OF 20.4 MILLION.

SO ON SLIDE NUMBER NINE, WE START TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL AND BACKGROUND ON PROPERTY TAX BECAUSE IT IS OUR LARGEST SOURCE.

AS YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAXES GOVERNED BY STATE LAW.

THE CALCULATION IS COMPRISED OF THE VALUE THAT'S SET BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS, THE EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY STATE LAW AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE TAX RATE THAT WAS SET BY CITY COUNCIL BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

EACH HAD PROVIDED PRELIMINARY VALUES TO HOMEOWNERS AND TO THE CITY.

AND SO STAFF MONITORS THOSE VALUES EACH WEEK AS PROTESTS ARE SETTLED.

AND THEN, OF COURSE STATE LAW DOES REQUIRE THAT EACH OF THE FOUR APPRAISAL DISTRICTS PROVIDE CERTIFIED VALUES TO THE CITY BY JULY 25TH

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YOUR HISTORICAL PRELIMINARY VALUES. SO THESE AGAIN, ARE THE VALUES THAT WE RECEIVE IN MAY FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS.

THE CERTIFIED VALUES. THESE ARE THE VALUES THAT ARE CERTIFIED BY JULY 25TH AND THEN THE SUPPLEMENTAL VALUES.

THESE ARE VALUES THAT ARE UPDATED AFTER CERTIFIED.

AND SO THE FISCAL YEAR 26 PLAN BUDGET LAST SUMMER ASSUMED CERTIFIED VALUES WOULD GROW TO 221.1 BILLION.

THIS ASSUMPTION DOES INCLUDE THE 3.5% APPRAISAL CAP, A REAPPRAISAL CAP, AS WELL AS NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO WE DO EXPECT THE VALUES TO ERODE BETWEEN NOW AND CERTIFIED THROUGH THE PROTEST PROCESS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT DEPICTED ON THE CHART AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BARS FOR PRELIMINARY AND CERTIFIED, THE THREE YEAR AVERAGE EROSION IS ABOUT 7.1%.

THAT LINE IN THE CHART ON THE BOTTOM OF SLIDE TEN SHOWS THE EROSION BETWEEN PRELIMINARY AND CERTIFIED.

AND SO WHAT THIS CHART IS TELLING YOU IS THAT WE RECEIVE OUR PRELIMINARY VALUES.

THEY TEND TO ERODE. TO CERTIFIED. AND THEN EVEN AFTER WE RECEIVE OUR CERTIFIED VALUES, VALUES CONTINUE TO ERODE THROUGH THE SUPPLEMENTAL PROCESS.

AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR VALUES EACH EACH WEEK UNTIL WE GET TO CERTIFIED.

ON SLIDE NUMBER 11, I MENTIONED EXEMPTIONS AS PART OF THE CALCULATION OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.

SO EXEMPTIONS REMOVE PART OF THE HOME'S VALUE FROM TAXATION.

WE HAVE AT THE CITY OF DALLAS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AT 20%.

NEXT YOU WILL SEE THAT OUR OVER 65 DISABLED EXEMPTION LAST WEEK ON YOUR CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, YOU APPROVED AN INCREASE IN THIS EXEMPTION FROM 153,400 TO 175,000.

AND JUST AS A POINT OF REFERENCE COMBINING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION WITH THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION MEANS A SENIOR WITH A PROPERTY VALUED AT 218,007 50 OR LESS WILL PAY ZERO CITY PROPERTY TAXES.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM ON THIS SLIDE. THE CHILD CARE FACILITIES EXEMPTION.

THIS WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY OF 2024.

AND IT APPLIES TO THE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S USED BY A CHILD CARE FACILITY.

SO THIS IS A 100% EXEMPTION. ON SLIDE ONE. ON SLIDE 12 YOU SEE THE VALUES OF EXEMPTION.

SO THIS IS INCLUDING THE HOMESTEAD THAT I TALKED ABOUT THE OVER 65 DISABLED EXEMPTION.

AND THEN OF COURSE TOTALLY EXEMPT PROPERTIES ARE INCLUDED IN THIS CHART AS WELL.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT 62.3 BILLION IN VALUE IS EXEMPT FROM TAXATION IN DALLAS BECAUSE OF EXEMPTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR OR 25.

THAT'S 438.9 MILLION IN REVENUE FOREGONE, OR THE EQUIVALENT OF 20.7 $0.04 ON THE TAX RATE.

WE CONTINUE THE PROPERTY TAX DISCUSSION WITH THE TAX RATE ON SLIDE 13.

THE CURRENT TAX RATE IS 70.4 $0.07. THE TAX RATE IS SPLIT BETWEEN THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING OR THE GENERAL FUND, AND THE INTEREST IN SINKING FUND OR THE DEBT SERVICE FUND.

THE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS USED TO PAY OUR LONG TERM DEBT.

THE CURRENT SPLIT OF THE TAX RATE IS 72% ALLOCATED TO THE GENERAL FUND, AND 28% ALLOCATED TO DEBT SERVICE.

AND YOU WILL SEE THAT HISTORICAL SPLIT WHEN WE GET TO SLIDE 15.

ON SLIDE 14, CITY COUNCIL HAS LOWERED THE TAX RATE FOR NINE CONSECUTIVE YEARS.

THIS IS A TOTAL OF 9.2 $0.03 OR 11.6% REDUCTION.

IF YOU RECALL, THE TEXAS PROPERTY TAX REFORM AND TRANSPARENCY ACT OF 2019 OR SB TWO, CAPS THE GROWTH ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE OF THE TAX RATE. SO THAT CAP LIMITS THE GENERAL FUND GROWTH TO 3.5% OF REAPPRAISAL VALUE PLUS NEW CONSTRUCTION.

I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE IN ORDER TO STAY WITHIN THE 3.5% LIMIT ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE, THE CITY MUST LOWER THE TAX RATE.

THE CHART ON SLIDE 15 THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER RECAPS THE REVENUE FORGONE FROM LOWERING THAT TAX RATE.

AND SO I MENTIONED FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS WE HAVE LOWERED THE TAX RATE.

THE BOX NEXT TO THE CHART OUTLINES. AND THE OUTLINE REFLECTS THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF SB TWO.

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ON SLIDE 16, THE LAST SLIDE ON PROPERTY TAX HIGHLIGHTS THE GENERAL FUND TAX RATE AND THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE.

DO YOU WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS SLIDE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS LOWERED BOTH THE GENERAL FUND TAX RATE AS REQUIRED, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO THE CAP AND THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE, WHICH IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE CAP.

THE DECREASE HAS BEEN NEARLY 27% SINCE FISCAL YEAR 11.

ON SLIDE 17, SHIFTING FROM PROPERTY TAX TO SALES TAX.

AS YOU KNOW, SALES TAXES ARE MOST VOLATILE SOURCE OF REVENUE.

WE DO WORK WITH DEARMAN ANALYTICS WHICH IS A CONTRACT ECONOMIST.

THEY DEVELOP THE FORECAST FOR US. A FEW NOTES ABOUT SALES TAX IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

IF YOU RECALL OUR FISCAL YEAR 25 ADOPTED BUDGET FOR SALES TAX IS 463.8 MILLION.

WE REPORT ON A MONTHLY BASIS COLLECTIONS. AND IF YOU RECALL, ACTUAL COLLECTIONS FOR FOUR OF THE SEVEN MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR HAVE BEEN BELOW BUDGET. DEARMAN ANALYTICS HAS PROVIDED AN UPDATED FORECAST FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.

THAT FORECAST HAS BEEN REVISED DOWN TO 459.1 MILLION, OR 4.7 MILLION BELOW BUDGET.

THE CHART THE CHANGE. I'M SORRY. THE CHANGE IMPACTS THE FORECAST FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 AND 27.

AND SO AGAIN, WE HAVE REVISED OUR SALES TAX FORECAST FROM THE PLAN NUMBER TO A MORE CONSERVATIVE POSITION JUST BASED ON THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE MARKET ON SLIDE 18. THIS CHART COMPARES THE PLANNED ASSUMPTIONS ON SALES TAX DEVELOPED LAST SUMMER COMPARED TO OUR REVISED REVENUE ASSUMPTIONS HERE IN JUNE.

AGAIN, THE FORECAST LEANS CONSERVATIVE. RECOGNIZING THE UNCERTAINTY IN THE FINANCIAL MARKET, THIS APPROACH TO OR THIS CONSERVATIVE APPROACH IS ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO OUR PEER CITIES SAN ANTONIO, AUSTIN AND HOUSTON, WHO ARE ALL REFLECTING CHANGES BETWEEN 1 AND 2%.

WHEN YOU COMPARE THEIR FIVE YEAR FORECAST FROM LAST SPRING TO THEIR CURRENT FIVE YEAR FORECAST THIS SPRING, SLIDE NUMBER 19 REFLECTS THE LONG TERM HISTORICAL PERCENTAGE CHANGE IN SALES TAX GROWTH.

THERE ARE THREE OUTLINES ON THE PAGE. THE OUTLINES IN THE 2000 AND FISCAL YEAR 29 OR 2009 REFLECT THE DRAMATIC DECLINES DUE TO THE RECESSION. AND THEN YOU WILL SEE AN OUTLINE IN BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 21 THROUGH 23.

AND THIS IS PRIMARILY DUE TO FEDERAL STIMULUS PENT UP DEMAND COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC AND INFLATION.

THE LAST FISCAL YEARS ON THIS PARTICULAR CHART, FISCAL YEAR 25 THROUGH 29 HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT OUR UPDATED PRELIMINARY VALUES. WE DO HAVE A SLIDE HERE ON SLIDE 20.

WE'VE ADDED A SLIDE TO ON FIFA TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR CONTRACT ECONOMISTS ON THE ONE TIME INCREASE IN SALES TAX REVENUE DUE TO FIFA, THE FISCAL YEAR PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU ON AUGUST 12TH WILL INCLUDE AN ESTIMATE THAT ADDITIONAL ONE TIME REVENUE AND ANTICIPATED FIFA REIMBURSEMENTS WILL ALSO BE INCLUDED.

AND THOSE AMOUNTS WILL BE USED TO PAY THE ONE TIME EXPENSES THAT WE ANTICIPATE FROM THIS EVENT.

SO ROUNDING OUT THE REVENUE DISCUSSION ON SLIDE 21 FEE STUDY, WE HAVE A FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA, WHICH IS OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES THAT REQUIRE THAT WE LOOK AT FEES FOR SERVICE EVERY FOUR YEARS ON A ROTATING BASIS.

THIS IS OUR ANNUAL REVIEW OF GENERAL FUND FEES.

DEPARTMENTS LISTED HERE ON SLIDE 21 ARE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE CURRENT YEAR CYCLE.

YOU WILL FIND IN THE APPENDIX ON SLIDES 84 THROUGH 91 THE RESULTS OF THE FEE STUDY.

THE SLIDES INCLUDE THE CURRENT FEE, THE 100% CALCULATED FULL COST RECOVERY FEE, AND THEN THE FEE THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY THE DEPARTMENTS.

SO MOVING ON TO EXPENSES ON SLIDE 21, IN THE SAME FORMAT AS THE REVENUE ON SLIDE SIX, WE ARE SHOWING HISTORICAL EXPENSES BY EXPENSE CATEGORY. PERSONAL SERVICES, AS YOU CAN SEE, ACCOUNTS FOR OVER 70% OF OUR BUDGET.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE YEAR OVER YEAR GROWTH COMPARED TO PRIOR YEAR ACTUALS ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE.

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THE FIRST COLUMN REFLECTS THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET ADOPTED LAST SUMMER.

THE SECOND COLUMN REFLECTS OUR CURRENT YEAR FORECAST AS OF APRIL.

AND THEN THE LAST BUDGET REFLECTS THE PLANNED BUDGET THAT WAS DEVELOPED LAST SUMMER.

SO AGAIN, WE ARE SHOWING THE PLANNED BUDGET FOR EXPENSES HERE.

SO MOVING ON TO SLIDE 25. IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.

AND ON THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, WE HAVE ALIGNED OUR BUDGET BY THE SEVEN PILLARS OF OUR FOUNDATIONAL STRUCTURE.

ON SLIDE 25, YOU CAN SEE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN EACH PILLAR.

THIS INFORMATION IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE TABLE OF CONTENTS IN THE FISCAL YEAR 25 ADOPTED BUDGET DOCUMENT, AND IT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE SUMMARY OF SERVICES BY FINANCIAL PILLAR IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET DOCUMENT AS WELL.

ON SLIDE 26, YOU CAN SEE THE ALLOCATION OF EXPENDITURES BY FOUNDATIONAL PILLAR, AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS CHART THAT SAFE HAS BEEN OUR LARGEST INVESTMENT. THE FOUNDATIONAL PILLARS ARE NOT PERSONNEL REPORTING STRUCTURES, BUT THEY ARE A REFLECTION OF HOW EACH DEPARTMENT IS POSITIONED TO IMPACT THE GOAL OF EACH PILLAR.

AND THEN LASTLY ON SLIDE 27, AGAIN, WE SHOW HOW WE ARE ALLOCATING THE FISCAL YEAR 26 PLAN GENERAL FUND REVENUE TO EACH OF THE PILLARS. AND SO AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, OUR LARGEST INVESTMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND IS SAVED SAFE AT 64%. AND THEN AGAIN ON SLIDE 25, YOU CAN SEE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE LISTED OR INCLUDED WITHIN SAFE.

SO ON SLIDE 28, I'VE TALKED ABOUT CHANGES TO THE FISCAL YEAR PLAN REVENUE.

AND SO NOW IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I'LL TALK ABOUT PRIOR COMMITMENTS AND ADDITIONAL COST COMPARED TO OUR PLANNED ASSUMPTIONS LAST YEAR.

AND SO FOR EACH OF THE ITEMS, YOU WILL SEE A FISCAL YEAR 26 AND 27 COLUMN.

AND SO REALLY THIS COLUMN REFLECTS ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE'RE ASSUMING COMPARED TO TO LAST SUMMER.

SO I'LL START WITH PENSION PENSION FOR BOTH POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM AND THE EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT FUND.

THE FISCAL YEAR 26 AND 27 PLANNED EXPENSES. FOR BOTH OF THOSE SYSTEMS THAT WERE BRIEFED LAST AUGUST HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 25 ADOPTED BUDGET.

IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PLAN NUMBERS, SO THERE IS NO PLANNED INCREASES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE COSTS.

YOU CAN SEE THE TOTAL CONTRIBUTIONS FOR EACH OF THE PENSION SYSTEMS AND THEN THE PLANNED AMOUNT THAT WAS DUE.

THAT'S ALREADY BEEN INCLUDED, BUT THE PLANNED INCREASE.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE 29. THE FIRST COLUMN WE'RE SHOWING AS A PRIOR COMMITMENT IS MEET AND CONFER.

WE HAVE LISTED THIS AMOUNT AS TO BE DETERMINED.

THE CURRENT CONTRACT IN SEPTEMBER 30TH AND NEGOTIATIONS ARE UNDERWAY.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THIS CHART, NON-UNIFORM OR CIVILIAN MERIT ASSUMPTIONS, WERE BUILT INTO THE PLANNED BUDGET LAST SUMMER.

THE COSTS ARE LISTED HERE AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THAT ASSUMPTION BECAUSE THOSE COSTS ARE ALREADY BUILT INTO THE PLAN NUMBER. THE LAST ITEM ON SLIDE 29 IS MINIMUM WAGE.

THE CURRENT MINIMUM WAGE IS 1950 PER HOUR, AND THE FISCAL YEAR 26 PLANNED BUDGET ASSUMED AN INCREASE UP TO $20 PER HOUR.

IF YOU RECALL FROM LAST SUMMER, THIS RECOMMENDATION WAS LOWER THAN THE MIT LIVING WAGE, WHICH IS THE LIVING WAGE.

THE LIVING WAGE POLICY THAT IS SET BY COUNCIL, NOT THE MINIMUM WAGE.

WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION LAST SUMMER, THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS A LEADER IN NORTH TEXAS OVER OTHER MUNICIPALITIES REGARDING MINIMUM WAGE.

WE ARE CONDUCTING A MARKET ANALYSIS NOW TO DETERMINE WHERE WE STAND.

AND AND SO WE WILL BRING THAT INFORMATION TO YOU AS PART OF THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

BUT TODAY WE ARE SEEKING DIRECTION REGARDING THE LIVING WAGE.

AND SO WILL YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE NEXT STEPS.

ON SLIDE 30, WE ARE SHARING ADDITIONAL COST DRIVERS PRIMARILY ASSOCIATED WITH THE EMPLOYEE AND RETIREMENT RETIREE HEALTH BENEFITS.

THE FISCAL YEAR 26 PLAN BUDGET AND THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST ASSUMED A 5% INCREASE DURING THE FORECAST PERIOD.

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THE FISCAL YEAR 25 FORECAST IS, AND THIS IS THE CURRENT YEAR AS 2.9 MILLION OVER BUDGET.

AND THIS IS PRIMARILY DUE TO THE COST INCREASES ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH INPATIENT AND OUTPATIENT CARE AND PHARMACY CLAIMS. AND SO THOSE PRELIMINARY INCREASES THAT YOU SEE HERE ON ON SLIDE NUMBER 30.

THEY ARE A DIRECT REFLECTION OF WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

AND SO WE ARE ASSUMING A $6.6 MILLION INCREASE ABOVE OUR ASSUMPTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 AND AN ADDITIONAL 4.4. INCREASE FOR FISCAL YEAR 27. WE ARE EXPLORING OPTIONS AS PART OF OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO MITIGATE OUR EXPENSES. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE COST SHARED BETWEEN THE CITY AND EMPLOYEES WITHIN OUR BENCHMARK PEERS.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT OPTIONS TO CONTINUE THAT EFFORT.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE 31. WE ARE SHOWING PRIOR COMMITMENTS MADE REGARDING POLICE HIRING A CITY COUNCIL APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 5-0392 ON FEBRUARY 26TH OF THIS YEAR. THAT RESOLUTION DIRECTS THE CITY MANAGER TO REVISE STAFFING GOALS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS.

THE. THE FIRST ROW ON THIS PARTICULAR CHART REFLECTS THE FULL YEAR FUNDING OF THE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

IF YOU RECALL DPD PROJECTS TO EXCEED THE BUDGETED HEADCOUNT OF 3162 OFFICERS.

THE SECOND ROW REFLECTS THE ADDITIONAL COMMITMENTS TO HIRE 350 OFFICERS IN FISCAL YEAR 26, AND TO HIRE 400 OFFICERS IN FISCAL YEAR 27. AND SO THOSE COSTS ARE SHOWN AS A RESULT OF THOSE COMMITMENTS.

THE LAST ITEM ON SLIDE 31 REFLECTS ADDITIONAL INCREASES IN MAJOR MAINTENANCE.

THE CURRENT TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND. SO MAJOR MAINTENANCE IS FUNDED BY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REVENUE SOURCES.

BUT THE TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND IS 1 MILLION.

AND THE PROPOSED BUDGET MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT BY 2 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 26 AND AN ADDITIONAL 3 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 27. AND SO NEXT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO JACK IRELAND TO WALK THROUGH EXPENSE DRIVERS AND A BALANCED BUDGET.

THANK YOU JEANETTE. AND SO ON. SLIDE 32. LET ME SUMMARIZE THE IMPACT OF WHAT JEANETTE HAS SHARED OVER THE LAST 27 SLIDES.

SO OUR PLANNED REVENUE AND OUR PLANNED EXPENSE WAS BALANCED LAST SUMMER WHEN WE WERE ADOPTED THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET. OUR FISCAL YEAR 26 NUMBERS WERE BALANCED.

HOWEVER, NOW AS WE ARE DOING OUR WORK, GETTING READY TO PRESENT A BUDGET TO YOU IN AUGUST, WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND WE'RE REEVALUATING, ANALYZING ALL THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS AND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS.

SO AS MISS WHEATON HAS SHARED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL PAGES WHAT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS ARE.

LET ME TELL YOU HOW IT IMPACTS THE BOTTOM LINE.

SO YOU'LL SEE ON SLIDE 32 AT THE TOP OF THE CHART.

OUR PLANNED REVENUE WAS JUST UNDER $2 BILLION.

THE CHANGES THAT MISS WEEDON DESCRIBED AS A REDUCTION TO OUR REVENUES FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 OF $20.4 MILLION, BRINGING OUR PRELIMINARY REVENUE AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO $1,000,000,956 MILLION.

AND SIMILAR WITH OUR EXPENSES, WE WERE AT JUST UNDER $2 BILLION LAST SUMMER.

BUT JEANETTE DESCRIBED THE PRIOR COMMITMENTS AND ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT NEED TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE BUDGET, AND THAT ADDS ADDITIONAL $16 MILLION IN EXPENSES TO JUST OVER $2 BILLION.

SO WE HAVE A VARIANCE BETWEEN REVENUE AND EXPENSES FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.

THE TOTAL $36.5 MILLION. AND THEN CARRYING THOSE NUMBERS THROUGH.

AND THERE IS SOME ELEMENT OF A COMPOUNDING EFFECT THAT WE HAVE A SHORTFALL BETWEEN REVENUE AND EXPENSES FOR FISCAL YEAR 27 OF JUST UNDER $83 MILLION. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WILL PROBABLY BE A HEADLINE, BUT THE THING TO REMEMBER IS THIS IS A SNAPSHOT.

THIS IS TODAY. WE WILL BALANCE THE BUDGET BEFORE WE BRING IT TO YOU IN AUGUST, AND WE WILL DO THE WORK OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS TO BRING THAT TO YOU.

SO WE ARE NOT FINISHED WITH OUR WORK. AND WHEN WE COMPLETE OUR WORK AND PRESENT IT TO YOU, YOU WILL SEE A BALANCED BUDGET THAT DOES NOT HAVE A VARIANCE BETWEEN REVENUE AND EXPENSES.

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THINGS ARE BECOMING DIFFERENT AND WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR APPROACH TO THAT.

AS JEANETTE HAS MENTIONED, PROPERTY TAX IS LIMITED BY THE 3.5% CAP ON REVENUE FROM REAPPRAISAL OF PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAXES. HAD A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AND A LOT OF VOLATILITY, AND THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST TO THOSE THINGS.

AND IN BEYOND OUR REVENUES. WE HAVE EXPENSES THAT ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH OUR EXPENSE BUDGET UP, INCLUDING PENSION CONTRIBUTIONS, OUR PAY AGREEMENTS FOR POLICE AND FIRE AS PART OF OUR MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENT.

THE DESIRE OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PAYING THE OFFICERS, HIRING ADDITIONAL OFFICERS AND THEN ALSO MAINTAINING SOME LEVEL OF PARITY WITH OUR NON-UNIFORM SALARY SCHEDULES.

AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, FACILITY MAINTENANCE, AND WE'VE REALLY DEFERRED A LOT THAT WE NEED TO START TAKING BETTER CARE OF.

SO THESE THINGS BECOMING OUR NEW NORMAL, WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR COURSE.

SO OUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE IS TO CHANGE OUR BUDGET PROCESS.

AND WE HAVE BEEN LAUNCHING A PRIORITY BASED BUDGET APPROACH.

AND I BELIEVE THIS NEW APPROACH ALIGNS DIRECTLY WITH SOMETHING THAT MAYOR JOHNSON SAID AS PART OF HIS INAUGURAL ADDRESS ON MONDAY WHEN MAYOR JOHNSON SAID CITY HALL WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE EVERYTHING TO EVERYONE. END QUOTE.

SO I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT WE DO AND DETERMINE WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT.

BUT AGAIN, WE CANNOT DO EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE.

ON SLIDE 34, WE'VE LAID OUT A PART OF OUR APPROACH RELATED TO PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING.

WE ASK ALL DEPARTMENTS TO ESTABLISH PROGRAM INVENTORY AND REALLY TO IDENTIFY WHAT THEY DO AS A DEPARTMENT.

WE ASK THEM TO EVALUATE THEIR PROGRAMS AND RANK THEIR PROGRAMS. AND WE ARE INTENT ON APPLYING OUR AVAILABLE RESOURCES TO THOSE PROGRAMS BASED UPON THE PRIORITY THAT WE SEE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES. SO WE'RE FOCUSING OUR AVAILABLE RESOURCES, NOT ON WHAT WE DID IN THE PRIOR YEAR, BUT TO WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT AS WE GO FORWARD ON SLIDE 35, BEYOND OUR NEW OUR CHANGED APPROACH FOR BUDGETING, WE'VE LAID OUT OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, REALLY WANTING TO FOCUS MORE ON INNOVATION, EFFICIENCY AND OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE RATHER THAN THE STATUS QUO.

LAST YEAR OR FOR THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE DID TAKE ON SEVERAL CONSOLIDATIONS AND ELIMINATED DUPLICATION OF SERVICES, AND WE PLAN TO CONTINUE THAT AS PART OF THIS UPCOMING BUDGET.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE OUR PARTNERSHIPS.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO REPURPOSE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR LONGER THAN 12 MONTHS, WHICH IS AN INITIATIVE THAT WE UNDERTOOK AS THE RESULT OF A COUNCIL MEMBER AMENDMENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. AND WE HAVE MADE THAT PART OF OUR REGULAR PROCESS OF REVIEWING AND IDENTIFYING POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VACANT FOR MORE THAN 12 MONTHS AND ELIMINATING THOSE POSITIONS. IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE QUALITY POSITIONS RATHER THAN A HIGH NUMBER OF POSITIONS.

WE ALSO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE OPTIMIZE AND CONSOLIDATE TECHNOLOGY.

WE HAVE OVER 600 SYSTEMS IN IT. SOME OF THEM DO VERY SIMILAR THINGS AND ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO REDUCE THAT FOOTPRINT.

WE ALSO INTEND TO CONTINUE TO LEVERAGE OUR ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

WE HAVE OUR DATA ANALYTICS OFFICE AND IT, WHO HAVE WORKED TOGETHER WITH DEPARTMENTS ON SEVERAL INITIATIVES THAT HAVE RESULTED IN SAVINGS FOR DEPARTMENTS, IMPROVED SERVICES, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO UTILIZE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO ANALYZE DEPARTMENTAL FEES FOR FULL COST RECOVERY, AS MISS WEEDON MENTIONED.

WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL POLICY NUMBER 12 THAT REQUIRES ON A FOUR YEAR ROTATING BASIS.

WE'RE REVIEWING ALL OF THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE FOR SERVICES, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THOSE TO FULL COST RECOVERY, WHERE ONE RESIDENT IS NOT SUBSIDIZING OTHER RESIDENTS THROUGH OUR FEE STRUCTURE.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO REVIEW OUR CONTRACTS FOR EFFICIENCIES.

WE WILL NEED TO ELIMINATE OR REDUCE LOW IMPACT PROGRAMS AGAIN, PRIORITIZATION.

AND THEN WE CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS THAT WE'VE UNDERTAKEN WITH GPS, PFM TO LOOK AT OUR REAL ESTATE AND SPACE ASSETS AND TRY TO FIND WAYS TO MAKE

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BUT THE NEXT PART OF THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO TURN TO IVAN GEHL, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES, TO GO THROUGH OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS. GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. IRELAND. SO I'M GOING TO WALK US THROUGH THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS PORTION FOR THE 26 AND 27 BUDGET UPDATE.

AS A REMINDER, THESE ARE SELF-SUPPORTING FUNDS, WHERE OPERATIONS ARE PRIMARILY PAID FOR THROUGH USER FEES RATHER THAN TAXES.

ENTERPRISE FUNDS INCLUDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES LIKE WATER, UTILITIES, STORM DRAINAGE, SANITATION, AVIATION PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, ETC. EACH OF THESE AREAS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN SERVING OUR RESIDENTS AND MAINTAINING CITY INFRASTRUCTURE SO WELL.

WE WILL WALK BRIEFLY THROUGH THE KEY UPDATES FOR FY 26, AND AS AN OVERALL DISCLAIMER TO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.

AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY'RE NOT FINALIZED INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES LIKE FLEET FUEL, IT, ETC.. ON THIS SLIDE 37 DALLAS WATER UTILITIES IS PROPOSING A RATE INCREASE IN FY 26 TO SUPPORT THEIR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS, CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND FLEET REPLACEMENT.

THIS INCLUDES $2.5 MILLION FOR PERSONNEL, $2 MILLION IN COMMERCIAL PAPER FEES AND $2.4 MILLION FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PAYMENTS TO THE TRINITY WATER AUTHORITY. THE CHART BELOW THAT YOU SEE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU, SHOWS AN INCREASE OF ABOUT $5.95 IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THIS FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK.

FOR THE RATE. WITH WITH A STEADY 1 TO 3% INCREASE IN ALL OTHER YEARS OF THE OUTLOOK.

ON SLIDE 38, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE BEFORE YOU STORM.

DRAINAGE MANAGEMENT IS ALSO PROPOSING A RATE INCREASE TO MEET THEIR CAPITAL NEEDS, TO FUND THEIR EQUIPMENT AND ENHANCE NEIGHBORHOOD DRAINAGE MANAGEMENT, MAINTENANCE. SORRY. THESE RATE CHANGES ENSURE WE CAN CONTINUE DELIVERING RELIABLE WATER AND DRAINAGE SERVICES WHILE KEEPING PACE WITH SYSTEM DEMANDS FOR ALL FIVE YEARS. IN THIS FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK, THERE IS AN ANTICIPATED INCREASE OF ABOUT $0.56 TO $0.69 IN EACH OF THOSE FIVE YEARS, BUILDING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. THE NEXT SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS THE LONGER TERM CAPITAL OUTLOOK FOR BOTH WATER AND STORM DRAINAGE.

THE FOCUS REMAINS ON MAINTAINING SYSTEM INTEGRITY AND INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT SUPPORTS RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AND RESILIENCE.

CONTINUE. WE'RE CONTINUING TO PRIORITIZE, AGAIN, REPLACING AGING ASSETS AND EXPANDING CAPACITY IN OUR TARGETED AREAS.

ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, SIMILARLY, THIS SLIDE IS GOING TO SHOW THE SAME GROWTH BUT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WITH REGARD TO THE LONGER TERM CAPITAL OUTLOOK FOR BOTH WATER AND STONE AND STORMWATER. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PERCENTAGE GROWTH CONGRUENT TO THE TO THE NUMERICAL GROWTH AND STORM.

DRAINAGE HERE IS CONSISTENTLY GROWING OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WITH WATER GROWING STEADILY AT ABOUT 3.5%.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SANITATION SERVICES WHERE THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING.

WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING A RATE INCREASE IN FY 26.

THIS WILL HELP FUND ABOUT $2.6 MILLION IN PERSONNEL COSTS, $2.2 MILLION FOR COLLECTION AND LANDFILL EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, AND $1 MILLION FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE. SO MODERNIZING THE FLEET AND EQUIPMENT IS CRITICAL FOR RELIABLE TRASH, RECYCLING AND BRUSH SERVICES. THE PROPOSED ADJUSTMENTS ARE DESIGNED TO MAINTAIN SERVICE LEVELS AND REDUCE BREAKDOWNS AND DELAYS IN THE COLLECTION.

YOU'LL SEE THAT THE CHART BELOW AT THE BOTTOM SHOWS A 1% RATE INCREASE IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK AND 3% CONSISTENTLY ACROSS FOR THE LAST FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS IN THE FIVE YEAR OUTLOOK. ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SLIDE KIND OF BRINGS IT ALL TOGETHER WITH A PRELIMINARY LOOK AT THE AVERAGE MONTHLY RESIDENTIAL UTILITY BILL IN FY 26.

IT SHOWS THE PROJECTED CHARGES FOR WATER, WASTEWATER, STORM WATER AND SANITATION BASED ON A STANDARD USAGE RATES, WHILE SMALL RATE INCREASES ARE PROPOSED IN EACH CATEGORY.

WE ARE MANAGING THE INTERNAL COST LIKE IT FLEET AND BENEFITS TO KEEP THE TOTAL BILLS AS AFFORDABLE AS POSSIBLE FOR RESIDENTS.

THE TOTAL AVERAGE RATE INCREASES IN THIS LIGHT RANGE FROM 2% TO ABOUT 4.5% AS A WHOLE.

AND AGAIN, THESE FIGURES ARE STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE, BUT THEY GIVE US A GOOD PLANNING ESTIMATE AT THIS STAGE.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE FOR AVIATION, THEIR FY 20. THE FY 26 OPERATING BUDGET IS PROPOSED AT $209.1 MILLION, WITH ABOUT 4.3 MILLION IN CAPITAL. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT A SMALL TYPO HERE.

THERE SHOULD NOT BE A DOLLAR SIGN IN FRONT OF THE 8.6 MILLION AND THE 9.4 MILLION IN PAYMENTS.

THOSE ARE ACTUALLY COUNTS OF PAYMENTS, NOT NOT A DOLLAR AMOUNT.

HOWEVER, DESPITE EMPLOYMENT GROWTH FROM 8.6 MILLION TO 9.4 MILLION, THE BUDGET REMAINS FLAT YEAR OVER YEAR.

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STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG LEMMON AVENUE, AND INFLATIONARY CONTRACT ADJUSTMENTS.

WE'RE ALSO INITIATING A TERMINAL AREA MASTER PLAN FOR LEFT FIELD TO HELP OPTIMIZE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ENSURE SAFE, EFFICIENT OPERATIONS AS LA FIELD CONTINUES TO GROW.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE. CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.

PROPOSED BUDGET IS ABOUT 130 $130.9 MILLION, WITH A $7.5 MILLION CAPITAL BUDGET.

THE FUNDING WILL SUPPORT OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE AT THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER.

OVERSIGHT OF VISIT DALLAS UNION STATION, THE OMNI HOTEL, AND THE OFFICE OF SPECIAL EVENTS.

PLANNING IS ALSO UNDERWAY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON MASTER PLAN, WHICH WILL BE REFLECTED FULLY IN THE AUGUST BUDGET RECOMMENDATION.

THIS NEXT SLIDE TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENTS. FY 26 PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH IS SET TO BE AT ABOUT $55 MILLION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

RIGHT NOW, REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE DOWN ABOUT 12% FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, FY 25.

DUE TO CONSERVATIVE, MORE CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.

AND SO TO ADDRESS THIS, NEW FEES FOR COMMERCIAL REMODELS AND TEAM SERVICES WILL TAKE EFFECT JULY 1ST OF THIS YEAR.

ADDITIONALLY, A FULL FEE STUDY WILL BE LAUNCHED LATER IN FY 26, WITH ANTICIPATED CHANGES EXPECTED IN THE SUBSEQUENT FISCAL YEAR IN FY 27.

WE'RE ALSO CONTINUING TO ROLL OUT OUR LAND MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, DALLAS NOW, WHICH IS IMPROVING THE PERMITTING EXPERIENCE FOR BOTH STAFF AND CUSTOMERS.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE. LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE MUNICIPAL RADIO.

THE OPERATING BUDGET IS RIGHT NOW AT $459,000.

SINCE OPERATIONS HAVE TRANSITIONED TO CRA, THE CITY COVERS LIMITED EXPENSES, INCLUDING ONE STAFF POSITION AND THE BROADCAST TOWER LEASE.

THESE COSTS ARE FULLY REIMBURSED BY CRA UNDER THE EXISTING MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, AND THE BUDGET INCLUDES STANDARD INCREASES FOR PERSONNEL AND CUSTODIAL SERVICES AT FAIR PARK AND ENSURING THAT CONTINUES TO PROVIDE CLASSICAL PROGRAMING WHILE MINIMIZING CITY EXPENSES.

WITH THAT, I TURN IT BACK OVER TO MISS SWEDEN TO TALK ABOUT CAPITAL AND DEBT.

THANK YOU MISTER. WELL MOVING ON TO SLIDE 48.

JUST AS A REMINDER, AS DEPICTED ON SLIDE THREE, OUR BUDGET IS SPLIT INTO TWO PARTS.

THE FIRST PART IS THE OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH WE COVERED.

IT INCLUDES THE GENERAL FUND AND THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

AND THE SECOND PART IS THE CAPITAL BUDGET. THE CAPITAL BUDGET FUNDS OUR LONG TERM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE CITY.

AND SO WITHIN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, IT'S DIVIDED INTO TWO MAJOR PROGRAMS. THE GENERAL PURPOSE CAPITAL BUDGET. THAT INCLUDES OUR VOTER APPROVED BONDS.

AND THEN THE SECOND PART REFLECTS OUR ENTERPRISE FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

THE FISCAL YEAR 26 CAPITAL BUDGET TOTALS 938.2 MILLION.

WE ARE WORKING WITH DEPARTMENTS NOW TO FINALIZE THEIR CAPITAL BUDGETS SO THAT AMOUNT MAY CHANGE.

AND THAT THE UPDATED NUMBERS WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

UP TO YOU ON AUGUST THE 12TH. THE PIE CHART ON SLIDE 49 REFLECTS THE PROGRAMS INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, AND YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENT OF EACH PROGRAM. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET, INCLUDING THE INCEPTION TO DATE. BUDGET. INCEPTION TO DATE.

EXPENSES. SOURCES OF FUNDS. ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE PRIOR YEAR.

OBJECTIVES FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. ALL OF THAT DETAIL IS INCLUDED IN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET DOCUMENT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO REPORT THE FINANCIAL STATUS OF THE 2024, 2017, 2012, AND 2006 BOND PROGRAM IN OUR MONTHLY BUDGET ACCOUNTABILITY REPORT. MOVING ON TO SLIDE 51.

OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT. THE CITY ISSUES GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS TO FINANCE IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM.

ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE VOTERS HAVE APPROVED.

OR ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE BOND ELECTIONS THAT THE VOTERS HAVE APPROVED SINCE 1998.

THE DEBT FOR G.O. BONDS IS PAID BY PROPERTY TAXES.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, PROPERTY TAXES FUND THE GENERAL FUND OR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE FUND, AS WELL AS THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. AND SO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND SUPPORTS THE TAX SUPPORTED DEBT.

THE LAST BULLET ON THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT OUR DEBT OUTSTANDING AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2024, IS THAT 2.5 BILLION. ON SLIDE 52, WE ARE SHOWING THE FISCAL YEAR 26 PLANNED PROPERTY TAX ASSUMPTIONS.

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YOU'LL SEE ON HERE THAT THE 250 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS REFLECT OUR SECOND ISSUANCE TO SUPPORT THE THE THE VOTER APPROVED $1.25 BILLION BOND PROGRAM IN 2024. TRANSITIONING NOW TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.

SO STARTING ON SLIDE 54, WE HIGHLIGHT OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.

AND REALLY, COMMUNITY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF OUR PROCESS.

THE CITY HOSTED TOWN HALL MEETINGS THIS PAST SPRING.

WE ARE SHOWING ON SLIDE 55. WE HOSTED 16 SESSIONS AND WE ENGAGE WITH 237 ATTENDEES.

THE POINT OF DISCUSSION OR THE HIGHLIGHTS? FOR THOSE THAT ATTENDED THOSE TOWN HALL MEETINGS INCLUDED INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'VE HEARD IT. STREET INFRASTRUCTURE. PUBLIC SAFETY WAS FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON POLICE RESPONSE, POLICE HIRING, HOUSING AND HOMELESS HOMELESSNESS.

CONCERNS WERE RAISED REGARDING HOMELESSNESS AND THEN THE LAST ITEM THE ENVIRONMENT.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE 56. IN ADDITION TO OUR BUDGET TOWN HALL SESSIONS, WE DO HOST THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BUDGET MARCH 26TH, MAY 28TH, AND THEN OUR LAST BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING ON AUGUST THE 27TH.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO ENGAGE WITH ETSY TO CONDUCT OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY.

ON SLIDE NUMBER 57. WE HAVE OUR OUR UPCOMING TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN AUGUST.

WE ARE ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO SELECT ONE VIRTUAL AND ONE IN-PERSON MEETING.

AND THEN THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO HOST ONE CITYWIDE TELEPHONE TOWN HALL MEETING.

WE ARE ASKING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PROVIDE THEIR DATES AND LOCATIONS TO OUR OFFICE BY MONDAY, JULY 7TH AND WE WILL SEND OUT INSTRUCTIONS. AND SO THE LAST SLIDE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY.

SO OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, AS WE WILL DISCUSS IN THE NEXT BRIEFING, WE'VE CONDUCTED A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.

THIS YEAR WE ALSO HAVE A NON STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.

THAT SURVEY REPLACED OUR BUDGET PRIORITY SURVEY.

HOWEVER, TODAY WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE STATISTICALLY VALID RESULTS TOP OVERALL PRIORITIES FOR CITY SERVICES.

VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS. MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN THE TOP PRIORITY AS WELL AS POLICE SERVICES.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE NUMBER 59. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JACK IRELAND.

THANK YOU JEANETTE. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

WE'RE ALMOST DONE. MOVING ON TO THE LAST SECTION, PERFORMANCE METRICS.

ON SLIDE 60. AS PART OF MR. TALBOT'S 100 DAY PLAN.

WE KICKED OFF A NEW APPROACH TO GATHERING INFORMATION FOR PERFORMANCE METRICS AND THEN PUT TOGETHER A NEW INITIATIVE.

MANY OF YOU WILL REMEMBER UNDER FORMER CITY MANAGER TK BROADNAX, WE HAD DALLAS 365.

WELL, WE HAVE MADE A CHANGE TO THAT. WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON SIMPLIFYING THAT AND ENSURING THAT OUR MEASURES ARE MORE FOCUSED ON THE CONCERNS OF OUR RESIDENTS.

WE UNDERTOOK THIS PROCESS BEGINNING, I BELIEVE, IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

WHERE WE ENGAGED IN CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL WORKSHOPS LED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

WE DEVELOPED GOALS FOR EACH OF OUR SEVEN PILLARS.

AND THEN FOR EACH GOAL FOR EACH PILLAR, THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ALIGNED TO THAT PILLAR CAME UP WITH A DEPARTMENT GOAL, AND ONE SPECIFIC MEASURE THAT COULD BE USED TO REPRESENT THE WORK OF THE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE MANY, MANY, MANY OTHER MEASURES. THERE'S HUNDREDS OF MEASURES THAT ARE TRACKED BY CITY DEPARTMENTS FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT PURPOSES, WHETHER IT'S A GRANTING AGENCY OR MANAGEMENT NEED OR FOR REPORTING OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

BUT FOR THIS PURPOSE, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ONE MEASURE FOR EACH DEPARTMENT TO LIFT UP DURING FISCAL YEAR 26.

THOSE A DRAFT LIST OF THOSE ARE PROVIDED IN THE APPENDIX, THE VERY LAST TWO PAGES IN THE APPENDIX.

AND WE WOULD, OF COURSE, LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.

HOPEFULLY BEFORE JUNE THE 30TH SO THAT WE CAN FINALIZE THAT INITIATIVE AND GET IT KICKED OFF WITH THE THE BUDGET.

WE DID HAVE A VISUALIZATION BUILT BY DATA ANALYTICS, AND A MOCK UP OF THAT IS ON SLIDE 61.

WHAT WILL BE DISPLAYED ONLINE USES A GREEN YELLOW RED COLOR SCHEME.

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WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO STANDARDIZE THAT FOR REPORTING PURPOSES.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RED, YELLOW, GREEN THAT IT IS MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE.

I HAVE ON SLIDE 62 AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

USING PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AS AN EXAMPLE, WITH A GOAL OF CUTTING PERMIT REVIEW TIMES BY 10% ANNUALLY.

SO 10% REDUCTION WOULD BE THEIR GOAL, AND THAT 10% REDUCTION WOULD BE WORTH TEN POINTS IF THERE WAS ZERO REDUCTION IN THE TIME, THAT'S ZERO POINTS. SO IF THEY REPORTED THAT THEY HAD A 7% REDUCTION IN THEIR PERMIT REVIEW TIME.

A 7% REDUCTION EQUALS SEVEN ON THE SCALE, AND THAT FALLS BETWEEN THE 6.6, SEVEN AND TEN.

SO IT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED AS GREEN ON THE SCALE THAT WE WOULD SHOW ON THE DASHBOARD.

AND WE WILL BE DOING THAT FOR THE EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

FOR ONE MEASURE, EACH AND EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN A PORTFOLIO WILL ROLL UP TO AND SHOW AN OVERALL RED, YELLOW, GREEN FOR THE PORTFOLIO, INCLUDING SAFE, VIBRANCY, LIVABLE, ETC..

BEYOND THIS NEW INITIATIVE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO MEASURE AND REPORT OUT ON OTHER THINGS WE DID AS PART OF PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING. ASK EACH DEPARTMENT AGAIN AS THEY WERE IDENTIFYING THE PROGRAMS WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT.

WE ASK FOR A MEASURE THAT ALIGNS TO EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AT LEAST HAD THAT AND THERE MAY BE MORE THAN THE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT A DEPARTMENT TRACKS THROUGH MEASURES, AND ALL OF THE MEASURES THAT ARE TRACKED BY DEPARTMENT WILL BE COMBINED TOGETHER IN A REPORT THAT WILL BE LINKED TO THE DASHBOARD THAT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE.

SO THAT IS OUR NEW INITIATIVE RELATED TO PERFORMANCE METRICS.

AND AGAIN, WELCOME FEEDBACK ON THAT. MOVING TO NEXT STEPS ON SLIDE 65.

IN GENERAL TODAY WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY.

AND OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR SO BEFORE YOU GO ON YOUR JULY BREAK RECEIVING FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET.

SPECIFICALLY, WE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THE SLIDES.

PREVIOUS SLIDES, FOR EXAMPLE, LIVING WAGE POLICY.

WE DO HAVE A POLICY THAT REQUIRES OUR CONTRACTORS TO PAY THE LIVING WAGE, ACCORDING TO MIT.

HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC POLICY RELATED TO CITY EMPLOYEES.

WE HAD A PRACTICE OF TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT MIT LIVING WAGE, BUT WE DID NOT IMPLEMENT THAT IN THE CURRENT YEAR BECAUSE WE REALIZED WE WERE OUTPACING MARKET. IF WE CONTINUED TO RAISE ABOVE THE MITT LIVING WAGE.

AND SO WHETHER WE GO ABOVE MITT, DO WE STAY COMPARED TO MARKET OR HOW DO WE APPROACH THAT FOR CITY EMPLOYEES? YOUR FEEDBACK WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO US. ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, JUST A COUPLE OF SLIDES AGO, IS THE PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE APPENDIX.

OF COURSE, WE WOULD LIKE YOUR INPUT ON THOSE, WHETHER IT'S TODAY OR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

MISS WEEDON MENTIONED THAT AUGUST TOWN HALL MEETINGS WILL BE COMING UP VERY SHORTLY, AND WE ASKED THAT BY JULY 7TH THAT YOU DO NOTIFY THE BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES OFFICE OF YOUR PLAN FOR YOUR ONE IN-PERSON AND ONE VIRTUAL MEETING.

WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START PREPARING MATERIALS SO THAT WE CAN ADVERTISE AND HELP YOU PUSH THAT INFORMATION OUT.

OUR CERTIFIED PROPERTY VALUES ARE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO BE PROVIDED BY THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS ON JULY 25TH.

THAT'S A BIG DAY. REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS.

AGAIN, THAT REPRESENTS 58% OF THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE.

AND SO GETTING THAT FINAL NUMBER. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT NUMBER, WE WORK WITH DALLAS COUNTY TAX OFFICE ON THE CALCULATIONS RELATED TO OUR DIFFERENT CALCULATED TAX RATES. WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN TO SCHEDULE A ONE ON ONE MEETINGS BETWEEN MISS TOLBERT AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE MAYOR THE WEEK OF AUGUST 4TH. AT THAT POINT, WE WILL BE PRINTING THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, AND MR. TOLBERT WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE A PREVIEW OF WHAT WILL BE EXPECTED IN THAT PRINTED BUDGET DOCUMENT.

AT THE LATEST, WE WILL RELEASE ALL OF OUR MATERIALS, INCLUDING THE PRINTED DOCUMENT, GO ONLINE, OUR PRESENTATION MATERIALS AT THE LATEST. WE WOULD RELEASE THAT ON SATURDAY, AUGUST THE 9TH.

OUR GOAL IS TO DO THAT EARLIER IF POSSIBLE, BUT I HAVE A DROP DEAD OF AUGUST 9TH.

IT HAS TO HAPPEN. THEN ON AUGUST THE 12TH WE WILL MEET HERE AND DO THE PRESENTATION AND START THE PROCESS OF YOUR REVIEW,

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SEPTEMBER THE 18TH. SO WITH THAT MAYOR JOHNSON, I WILL TURN IT BACK TO YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JACK. AND TEAM THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOUR FIRST ENTRY INTO THE WHOLE BUDGET PROCESS, AND IT'S A IT'S A MAYBE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DO.

SO DON'T BE SHY ABOUT ASKING QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AND, AND MAKE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO BETTER TIME THAN, THAN THE PRESENT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS.

SO THE WAY WE NORMALLY DO, AGAIN, I'M ASSUMING THAT PEOPLE I'M PRETENDING LIKE I ASSUME THAT EVERYONE'S NEVER SEEN A COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY NOT REALISTIC. WE TYPICALLY ALLOW FOR THREE ROUNDS OF DISCUSSION, WHETHER WE'RE IN AN AGENDA MEETING OR A BRIEFING. MEETING LIKE THIS TODAY.

THERE'S NO IN A BRIEFING MEETING. THERE WILL NOT BE ANY VOTING THAT OCCURS.

THIS IS FOR US TO RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM CITY STAFF AND TO ASK QUESTIONS, MAKE COMMENTS.

AND YOU WILL GENERALLY HAVE UNLESS THERE'S SOME EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES IN THE FIRST ROUND, THREE MINUTES IN THE SECOND ROUND, ONE MINUTE IN THE THIRD ROUND.

AND AND THERE ARE RULES THAT I FORGET SOMETIMES ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS OF CERTAIN FOLKS WHEN YOUR TIME STOPS VERSUS WHEN IT CONTINUES TO RUN. BUT USUALLY THE MEMBERS WILL REMIND ME OF WHEN THEIR TIME SHOULD BE STOPPED.

SO FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN THE DEBATE. YOU'RE A FULL FLEDGED CITY COUNCIL MEMBER NOW, EVERYONE, SO WELCOME ABOARD AND WE'RE READY TO GO. SO MR. RIDLEY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON BRIEFING ITEM A FROM TODAY'S BRIEFING AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JACK, YOU PROJECTED A SHORTFALL OF $7.2 MILLION IN PROPERTY TAX AS OF THIS MONTH COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET. AND DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO SLIDE 14, WHERE YOU STATE THAT TO STAY WITHIN THE 3.5% CAP, THE CITY MUST LOWER THE TAX RATE. IS THERE AN ASSUMPTION THERE THAT WE WILL HAVE AN INCREASE IN OUR REVENUES OF OVER 3.5%, SUCH THAT WE WILL HAVE TO VOLUNTARILY REDUCE OUR TAX RATE? SO THE THE NOTE IS REALLY JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE KNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE OF THE CAP, WE LOWER OUR TAX RATE.

A LOT OF TIMES AT THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WE RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS REGARDING LOWERING THE TAX RATES.

SO THAT NOTE IS JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CAP REQUIRES THAT WE LOWER THE RATE.

OUR PROJECTIONS FACTOR IN GROWTH AT 3.5%. WE INCLUDE AN INCREASE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE'RE WE'RE MAKING ALL OF THOSE ASSUMPTIONS AS PART OF THE FORECAST.

THE CHANGE THAT WE SEE NOW IS REALLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR CERTIFIED VALUES AND SUPPLEMENTAL VALUES, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF EROSION THAT HISTORICALLY WE HAVE NOT SEEN BETWEEN CERTIFIED AND SUPPLEMENTAL.

SO WE ARE INCLUDING AN ASSUMPTION FOR THAT AS WELL.

SO ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT WE WILL EXCEED THE 3.5% CAP? NO. SO IT IS POSSIBLE WE'LL FALL BELOW THAT. IT IS POSSIBLE IT IS POSSIBLE WE WILL FALL BELOW THAT DEPENDING ON EROSION. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT THE HISTORICAL THREE YEAR AVERAGE HAS BEEN ABOUT 7.1%, BUT OUR VALUES HAVE BEEN HIGHER DURING THE PRELIMINARY PROCESS. I THINK THAT WE'RE SEEING A MORE CONSERVATIVE POSTURE FROM APPRAISALS.

AND SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO REALIZE THAT 7.1% HISTORICAL AVERAGE, JUST BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH OUR WEEKLY PRELIMINARIES. AND IF I CAN ADD TO THE THE ANSWER, WE HAVE ASSUMED THAT WE WILL HAVE 3.5% GROWTH FROM REAPPRAISAL AND NEW REVENUE FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND SO IF WE REALIZE GROWTH BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE ALREADY ASSUMED 3.5%.

AND THEN THE FACTOR THAT MISS WHEDON'S SPEAKING OF IS THIS NEW COMPLICATION RELATED TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE LITIGATION AND HOW THAT'S IMPACTING US. SO THAT'S NEW TO US AND WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

BUT JUST SO WE WE DIDN'T INTENTIONALLY MAKE A A LIST, ANYTHING RELATED TO WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN WITH THE TAX RATE JUST YET, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF UNKNOWNS FOR US.

RIGHT? DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 20. THE SALES TAX IMPACT FROM FIFA.

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IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE REIMBURSEMENTS. SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING REIMBURSEMENTS FOR OUR EXPENSES THERE, PRIMARILY PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENSES OR THEY ARE PUBLIC SAFETY THE EXPENSES.

AND SO IF WE RECEIVE A REIMBURSEMENT. THEN ANY ONE TIME BUMP THAT WE RECEIVE IN FISCAL YEAR 26, THEN WE WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT SAVINGS IN FISCAL YEAR 27.

WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE A BETTER READ ON THAT? WILL YOU HAVE THAT BY THE TIME YOU ISSUE THE BUDGET, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE WON'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT UNTIL WE'RE A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD? NO. THE THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET ON AUGUST 12TH WILL INCLUDE A FORECAST FOR FIFA, AS WELL AS THE ONE TIME EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WE'RE ALMOST THERE. WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR INFORMATION RELATED TO HOW MANY OF THOSE VISITORS THAT WE THINK WILL ACTUALLY SPEND WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS, SO THAT PERCENT IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IMPACTS THE REVENUE CALCULATION.

AND IS IT CLEAR WHAT FIFA REIMBURSES IS SUPPOSED TO WHAT THEY WON'T REIMBURSE? THAT IS STILL PART OF THE DISCUSSION AS WELL.

SO WE ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW OUR EXPENSES ARE POLICE, FIRE AND THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

THOSE ARE PUBLIC SAFETY COSTS. AND SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHICH FACILITIES THAT THEY'RE COVERING.

AND THEN ALSO SO A LOT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE STILL ONGOING, BUT WE DO EXPECT TO HAVE FINAL DECISIONS WHEN WE PRESENT THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET AND DIRECTING ATTENTION TO SLIDE 31, THE ADDITIONAL COST CATEGORY UNDER EXPENSE DRIVERS INCREASING THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER TO MAJOR MAINTENANCE CITY MANAGER, I WOULD SUBMIT THAT $2 MILLION IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR FACILITY MAINTENANCE NEEDS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT INCREASED.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S A TIGHT BUDGET YEAR, BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO UP OUR GAME WHEN IT COMES TO CITY FACILITY MAINTENANCE.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST ADDRESS.

COUNCIL MEMBER. REALLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY.

WE GAVE AN OVERVIEW A FEW WEEKS AGO REGARDING A WHOLE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND SOME OF THE PROACTIVE MEASURES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE.

THIS IS IN ADDITION TO AND IS NOT THE TOTAL. SO THAT PRESENTATION WILL BE COMING TO YOU HERE.

I THINK IT'S ITEM NUMBER C MAYBE D, BUT WE DEFINITELY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT HOW WE PLAN TO RAMP UP EXPENSES TO SUPPORT OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE NEEDS. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND WE DEFINITELY AGREE.

JACK, BACK TO SLIDE 32. YOU MAY BE EMPLOYING NEW MATH, BUT I'M HAVING TROUBLE ARRIVING AT THE DIFFERENCE THAT YOU INDICATE BETWEEN THE TOTAL PRELIMINARY REVENUE AND THE VARIANCE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1.956 BILLION AND 2 BILLION WON IS NOT 36 MILLION.

IT'S 45 MILLION. WHICH IS IT? SO LET US DOUBLE CHECK BECAUSE WE YOU'RE YOU'RE CORRECT.

ONE OF OUR NUMBERS IS WRONG. SO LET LET US FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, SIR ON THAT.

OKAY. THE SAME WOULD BE THE INTERNAL CALCULATION OF THE PLANNED EXPENSES.

PLUS PRIOR COMMITMENTS AND ADDITIONAL COSTS DO NOT ADD UP TO 2 BILLION WON.

WE WILL THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR ANY ERRORS ON THE PAGE.

WE WILL GET THAT CORRECTED AND REDISTRIBUTED.

DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO 45 THE LAST BULLET UNDER MAJOR INVESTMENTS ABOUT DALLAS.

NOW, I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF WE ANTICIPATE REDUCING THE NUMBER OF FTES IN THAT DEPARTMENT AS A RESULT OF THE EFFICIENCIES BROUGHT BY DALLAS NOW. SO ON THAT, I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE DEPARTMENT TO HELP US ANSWER THE QUESTION RELATED TO THAT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, REALLY FOR THE QUESTION.

THAT IS PART OF THE FACTOR THAT WE'RE REDUCING SOME OF THE POSITIONS AT OUR DEPARTMENT NEXT YEAR.

SO IF YOU RECALL, LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE 60.

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BUT THIS BUDGET YEAR, WE'RE EXPECTING $55 MILLION EXPENSES.

AND PART OF THAT IS DALLAS NOW AND PART OF THAT REALIGNMENT.

SO WE ARE GOING TO REDUCE SOME MOSTLY VACANT POSITIONS.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. EMILY. JACK, BACK TO YOU.

DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO SLIDE 51, GENERAL OBLIGATION AND YET YOU INDICATE THAT THE CITY HAS 2.5 BILLION IN PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED DEBT OUTSTANDING. WHAT IS THE CITY'S DEBT CEILING? THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS ONE. DO WE HAVE ONE? NO, SIR. THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC DEBT CEILING ON WHAT WE WE ISSUE.

WELL, THERE MUST BE SOME RULES OF THUMB AS TO WHAT DEBT WE CAN SUPPORT WITH OUR PROJECTED REVENUES.

DO YOU HAVE THAT RULE OF THUMB? SO EACH EACH MUNICIPALITY SETS A SEPARATE TAX RATE.

AND THAT TAX RATE BEING SPLIT BETWEEN GENERAL FUND AND THE DEBT SERVICE FUND.

AND SO, AS MISS WEEDON MENTIONED ON A SLIDE PREVIOUSLY, WE HAVE MADE REDUCTIONS TO OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE BY NEARLY 27%. BUT VALUES CONTINUE TO GO UP. SO WE WE HAVE INCREASED OUR REVENUE THAT COMES INTO THE FUND.

THAT ALLOWS US TO THEREFORE MAKE THE PROJECTIONS ON WHAT OUR FINANCIAL CAPACITY IS FOR ISSUING ADDITIONAL DEBT.

AND SO EACH YEAR THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, WE'RE RE ANALYZING THAT.

AND WE HAVE CONTINUED TO DROP OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE WHERE POSSIBLE.

SO THAT WE'RE NOT OVERTAXING, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO OVERTAX ON THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE, WE'RE ONLY ABLE TO SET THE RATE TO SUPPORT THE DEBT THAT WE DO HAVE.

AND SO THAT IS AN ONGOING PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH OF ANALYZING THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY AND WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO ISSUE IN DEBT.

AND SO WE HAVE CAPACITY TO CONTINUE THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM OVER A FIVE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION.

WE RESERVE CAPACITY FOR ABOUT $500 MILLION TO ISSUE PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS.

IF THE CITY COUNCIL WERE TO CHOOSE TO DO THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE LOOKED OUT INTO THE FUTURE TO HAVE ANOTHER FIVE YEAR BOND PROGRAM IN 2029.

THAT WOULD BE, AGAIN, ABOUT A $1.2 BILLION BOND PROGRAM.

SO IT'S REALLY NOT SET BY STATE LAW IN THIS CASE, OR IT'S NOT A POLICY OF THE COUNCIL.

BUT WE LOOK AT OUR FINANCIAL CAPACITY AND MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THE THE BOND PROGRAMS. SO YOU SAY THAT YOU HAVE RESERVED ABOUT 500 MILLION FOR PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS.

WOULD WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR DEBT SERVICE PROPERTY TAX RATE TO BE ABLE TO ISSUE THAT DEBT? NO, SIR. WE WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN FIT THAT WITHIN THE EXISTING TAX RATE WITH OUR GIVEN PROJECTIONS ON WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE VALUES. AND THE SAME QUESTION WITH REGARD TO 1.2 BILLION FOR THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM.

THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT GO INTO THAT ARE KEEPING THE SAME TAX RATE AND ASSUMING THE GROWTH.

AND AS WE PAY OFF DEBT WE THEN INCREASE CAPACITY TO ISSUE NEW DEBT.

RIGHT. THANK YOU. JACK. A FINAL COMMENT FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

ONE SUGGESTED AREA FOR ECONOMIZING ON THE BUDGET EXPENSES IS TO THOROUGHLY REVIEW ALL OF OUR EXPENSES FOR CONSULTANTS.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, WE SPEND AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR CONSULTANTS, BOTH ON AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT BASIS AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT WE EMPLOY CONSULTANTS SO THAT WE CAN UTILIZE BETTER UTILIZE OUR OWN STAFF RESOURCES FOR SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. I THINK THAT COULD RESULT IN SOME SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER LEE, FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

AND WE DEFINITELY ARE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS LOOKING AT CONSULTING SERVICES ACROSS EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT.

BUT THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

MISS MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM A, THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE A LIST OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL JUST TAKE THE VERY LAST THING THAT COUNCILMEMBER RIDLEY SAID, WHICH I DON'T MIND KEEPING THE CONSULTANTS IF THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO GET RID OF THE STAFF.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S GOING TO REALLY PROVIDE THE SERVICES THROUGH THE CONSULTING, THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'RE MASTER CONTRACTORS, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE BOTH.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. ROBUST STAFFING IN A DEPARTMENT.

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AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE BUSTING THIS BUDGET. SO JACK, YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A HEADLINE THAT MIGHT COME OUT ABOUT THIS $82.9 MILLION THAT YOU HAVE TO CLOSE ON THE GAP.

APP. BUT WHY DON'T YOU ALSO TELL US HOW MUCH IS THE BUDGET INCREASING THIS YEAR? AND SO I'M GOING TO RESERVE FOR JUST A SECOND THE THAT HEADLINE BECAUSE MR. RIDLEY POINTED OUT OUR ERROR. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO UPDATE THAT SLIDE AS WE ARE SPEAKING.

BUT THE INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES PROJECTED, I BELIEVE WE SHOWED ON SLIDE ON SLIDE SEVEN.

SO I'M TURNING BACK TO THAT. SO THE GENERAL FUND INCREASE WOULD BE RIGHT NOW OUR PROJECTION FOR INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUND WOULD BE 3%. SO IT'S ALMOST $57 MILLION INCREASING IN OUR BUDGET.

CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON PAGE SEVEN. YES, MA'AM.

SO THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WE DO WITH MATH IS WE SAY, OH MY GOODNESS, CITY OF DALLAS.

WE'VE GOT TO CLOSE THIS $82.9 MILLION BUDGET SHORTFALL.

BUT REALLY, WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE SAYING IS, HEY, WE'RE INCREASING OUR BUDGET ALMOST $57 MILLION.

WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING PRETTY EASILY.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM ABOUT PERSPECTIVE ON THE BUDGET.

SO I HOPE THE HEADLINE IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

I HOPE IT'S, WOW, THE CITY OF DALLAS IS GOING TO HAVE 57 MILLION MORE DOLLARS.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY AGAIN, NO REVENUE PROBLEM.

WE HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ALARMING.

AS MR. RIDLEY POINTED OUT, 28% OF THE REVENUE WE GET GOES TO DEBT SERVICE.

WE HAVE A DEBT PROBLEM, AND WE KEEP ISSUING MORE DEBT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

AND IF WE WOULD PAY AS WE GO, WE WOULD HAVE A WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH THE THINGS WE WANT TO, BUT WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE STUCK ON A CREDIT CARD, AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE FISCAL DISCIPLINE TO START PAYING DOWN SOME OF THE STUFF.

AND JUST IF I MAY, JUST FOR FOR NEW MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THAT WE ARE LIMITED BY THE CHANGE IN STATE LAW, THAT THE STATE LAW WILL NOT ALLOW US TO INCREASE OUR REVENUE FROM REAPPRAISAL BY MORE THAN 3.5% FROM IN PROPERTY TAX. SO TO NOW BEGIN TO TRY TO SHIFT EXPENSES OUT OF THE DEBT SERVICE FUND INTO THE GENERAL FUND, WE CAN'T MOVE THE TAX RATE. AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE RESTRICTED FROM UNDER SB TWO.

WELL, AND I WILL SAY AS A LEGISLATIVE ITEM, I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO TALK TO THEM, WHICH I KNOW I HAVE ALREADY ABOUT ENCOURAGING CITIES TO NOT SHIFT THE BURDEN TO DEBT AND INCENTIVIZE US TO TO REDUCE THAT DEBT.

AND WHETHER THAT'S AN EXCEPTION TO. 3.5 OR SOME OTHER KIND OF STRUCTURE.

GOING FURTHER INTO DEBT CAN'T BE THE ANSWER THAT ANYBODY WOULD WANT.

ON PAGE 34. CAN WE RECEIVE A LIST? CITY MANAGER OF ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM INVENTORY.

SO AS WE WORK THROUGH. EXCUSE ME, I'M TALKING TO LOUD.

SORRY. AS WE WORK THROUGH THE REMAINING WEEKS.

WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE THAT BE A PART OF THE BUDGET PACKET.

THAT IS NOT INFORMATION THAT IS COMPLETED AS OF TODAY.

BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY WORKING THROUGH IT RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT? YOU'LL SEE WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE A, A SUMMARY OF ALL THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE INVENTORY.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO INVEST IN AS PART, AS AS PART OF THE BUDGET.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THE ONES THAT WERE NOT RECOMMENDING, BUT THAT WORK IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME DURING THE MONTH OF JULY FINALIZING THAT DETAIL.

SO RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE TOO PRELIMINARY BECAUSE IT WILL DEFINITELY CHANGE AS THOSE INVENTORY SHEETS ARE BEING COMPLETED.

BUT EVEN IF WE'RE NOT RECEIVING YOUR RECOMMENDATION, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS LIST.

I'VE ASKED THE LONG TIMERS. NO, I ASKED FOR THIS LIST PRETTY REGULARLY, AND IT'S BEEN SAID THAT IT'S NOT EVEN AVAILABLE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING A DEPARTMENT EVEN HAS OF THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT, WHICH DOESN'T EVER MAKE SENSE.

BUT YOU HAVE THAT LIST. AND SO I THINK YOU SHOULD SHARE THAT, EVEN IF IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND FOR INCREASED DECREASE ELIMINATION EXPANSION. AND AGAIN THE THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE MOVED TO IN THE NEW BUDGETING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT,

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I WOULD RATHER PROVIDE THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A TRUE LIST, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OFTENTIMES WITH DRAFT INFORMATION, THINGS GET MISLEADING AND GET MISCOMMUNICATED, AND THEN WE CAN PROVIDE THAT ALSO AS PART OF THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. OKAY. CAN YOU WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND EXACTLY HOW WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK? THERE'S SOME THAT I THINK ARE REALLY, REALLY GOOD AND THEN SOME THAT I THINK FOR SURE NEED TIGHTENING UP.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO DO, AND WE HEARD FROM MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS OVER THIS LAST YEAR TO TRULY LOOK AT OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS OVERALL. WE OFTEN PUT THINGS OUT AS IT RELATES TO OUR METRICS THAT OUR RESIDENTS DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

AND SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT I RECEIVED FROM MANY OF YOU DURING A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WAS TO MAKE IT RESIDENT FRIENDLY.

AND SO THAT'S THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF GENERAL COMMENTS AROUND THE MEASURES TODAY.

AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT BRITTA SET UP INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER AND BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL METRICS THAT ARE ARE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE ONES THAT WE BELIEVE ARE MORE PUBLIC FACING.

THERE ARE SEVERAL METRICS. THERE'S A LOT OF METRICS, BUT WE KNOW THAT OUR RESIDENTS DON'T WANT TO COMB THROUGH 200 DIFFERENT METRICS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IF WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT TEAM AVAILABLE TO COUNCIL.

ANY ANY COMMENTS AROUND IT TODAY. BUT DO KNOW THAT WE WELCOME THOSE INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONS AS WELL.

TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE METRICS. WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE ON 62, IN THE BOX OF AN EXAMPLE WHERE IT SAYS THAT YOUR GOAL IS TO CUT PERMIT REVIEW TIMES BY 10% ANNUALLY.

THIS REALLY DOESN'T SAY WHETHER WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OR A BAD JOB.

IT DOESN'T GIVE ANY CONTEXT TO THAT. BUT INSTEAD YOU COULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE, WE WANT TO REDUCE FROM TEN DAYS TO SEVEN DAYS.

YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL NUMBER AND SOMEONE CAN SAY, OH, THIS SOUNDS GREAT, THIS IS REASONABLE, BUT HOW DO I KNOW IF A 10% REDUCTION IS STILL REALLY, REALLY BAD? THAT'S GREAT FEEDBACK. AND I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE GET INTO MORE OF THE THE DETAILS, THAT EXAMPLE, WE DO HAVE SOME THAT DEFINITELY GET TO WHETHER IT'S SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT, WHETHER IT'S LOOKING AT A CURRENT BENCHMARK THAT MIGHT BE A NATIONAL BENCHMARK, I THINK YOU'LL SEE A VERY GOOD VARIETY.

WE'VE BEEN FINE TUNING THIS. BRIT AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AND THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS TO REALLY CREATE A MORE ROBUST SET OF METRICS THAT TRULY GET TO RESULTS AND REALLY GET TO IMPACT. BUT GREAT COMMENTS, AND I KNOW THAT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE ABOUT THAT WORK, BUT DEFINITELY, AGAIN, WE WANT TO HAVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL AND FEEL FREE TO EVEN DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER IN THOSE INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSIONS.

BRITTA, DID I MISS ANYTHING? NO, MA'AM. THAT WAS PERFECT.

BRENDA ANDREWS, CHIEF DATA OFFICER SO WE WERE FOCUSED, AS MISS TOLBERT SAID, ON SIMPLIFYING.

RESIDENTS WANT TRASH PICKED UP. THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT WE'RE THERE. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW UP WHEN THEY CALL NINE ONE 1 OR 3 ONE ONE.

AND SO WE TRIED TO DO THAT. IN TERMS OF FEEDBACK WE'RE HAPPY TO COME TO INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS IN YOUR OFFICE, IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO DO IT. WE CAN TAKE THEM VIA WRITING.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THEM ALL BY THE 30TH, THE CLOSEOUT OF THIS MONTH, AND THEN KIND OF COMPILE THAT AND REWORK THOSE WITH THE DIRECTORS AND THE ACMS. GREAT. I LIKE THAT MEETING.

JACK IS THE POLICE ACADEMY $50 MILLION PROGRAMED IN FOR ISSUANCE IN FISCAL YEAR 26.

SO THE PLANNED ASSUMPTIONS FOR DEBT SERVICE DO NOT INCLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS RELATED TO THE POLICE ACADEMY.

THAT'S PART OF OUR ONGOING DISCUSSION AS PART OF BUDGET DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE KNOW THAT WE WILL RECEIVE CERTIFIED VALUES ON JULY 25TH, AND WE'LL HAVE UPDATED ASSUMPTIONS RELATED TO ANY ADDITIONAL CAPACITY FOR FIFA. WILL YOU BE TRACKING THE REVENUE AND EXPENSES SO WE CAN EVALUATE THE ENTIRE EVENT WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE? YES. THE PLAN IS TO TRACK FIFA REVENUE AND EXPENSES IN A SEPARATE FUND.

AND YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING THAT. SO DEPARTMENTS HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED WHAT WE CALL AN ACTIVITY CODE.

SO THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN DIRECTION TO TRACK ANY EXPENSES IN THE CURRENT YEAR RELATED TO PLANNING.

BUT THEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, WE WILL ACTUALLY IDENTIFY EVERYTHING IN A SEPARATE FUND.

SO FOR STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH HAVE BEEN RATED VERY HIGHLY ON THE COMMUNITY SURVEY.

CAN YOU SAY FOR GENERAL FUND WHAT IS THE CURRENT AMOUNT.

AND THEN ALSO HOW THAT COMPARES WITH THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT CHART TO YOU.

THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ANSWER THAT QUESTION CORRECTLY.

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I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT IT. IT WAS KIND OF A TWO PART. OKAY. AND I DIDN'T GET THE SECOND PART, BUT IT'S GENERAL FUND STREET MAINTENANCE.

THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE EXPECTING FOR THIS COMING BUDGET AND THEN HOW THAT COMPARES OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

BUT THE SECOND PART THAT I DIDN'T SAY WAS THE CAPITAL BUDGET, BUT I HAD RUN OUT OF TIME.

OKAY. OKAY. WE GOT IT. THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT I'D ASK THE QUESTION SO I COULD MAKE SURE WE GOT THE FULL THE FULL QUESTION.

THANK YOU, MISS WILLIS. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU TO THE BUDGET TEAM FOR THIS IN-DEPTH LOOK.

AS WE PRIME THIS PUMP FOR GREATER DISCUSSIONS IN AUGUST.

SO AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING AND HOW IT IS BEYOND TIME FOR THIS METHOD OF APPROACHING THE CITY'S BUDGET.

MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT IT IS HOW EVALUATIVE IT IS, BECAUSE IT SORTS OUT WHAT IS PERFORMING AND WHAT IS NOT.

THAT IS WHAT THE STAFF IS WORKING ON NOW. AND SO WHAT THAT CAN REVEAL IS WHERE OTHERS IN THE MARKETPLACE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FUND THIS PHILANTHROPY OR OTHER GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, AND SO THAT WE CAN REALLY SEE WHERE THESE GAPS ARE AND SEE, AS OUR GREAT PHILANTHROPIST, LYDA HILL WOULD SAY, WHAT ARE OTHERS FUNDING THAT I DON'T NEED TO STEP INTO? AND WHAT IS NO ONE FUNDING THAT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED? AND I THINK THAT THAT IS CRITICAL FOR US TO KNOW IS IF THERE IS A GAP IDENTIFIED, THAT NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO FUND THAT, BUT THAT MAKES SUCH AN IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY THAT IT COULD CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF A LIFE FROM POTENTIALLY ONE OF CRIME TO ONE OF ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND GOING ON TO BE HEALTHY, HAPPY AND INDEPENDENT. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS METHOD.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US. SO ON PAGE 16.

MISS WEEDON, YOU MADE A REMARK AND MAYBE I DIDN'T CAPTURE THE WHOLE THING.

YOU SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF LOWER TAX RATE.

NOT SUBJECT TO THE CAP. SO TELL ME ABOUT THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT'S CAPPED AND WHAT'S NOT, AND HOW WE ADDRESS THAT IN LOOKING AT OUR OVERALL REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAX.

SO ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, THE DISTINCTION THAT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE WE HAVE THE CITY HAS COMMITTED TO LOWERING BOTH THE GENERAL FUND TAX RATE, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO THE CAP, AS WELL AS THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT PARTICIPATED IN A LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND HEARD PENDING BILLS RELATED TO DEBT SERVICE AND POTENTIAL CAPS ON DEBT SERVICE.

THE CONVERSATION PRIMARILY REVOLVED AROUND CITIES NOT REDUCING THEIR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE.

AND SO I WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT, TO POINT OUT ON THIS SLIDE THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO NOT ONLY REDUCING THE GENERAL FUND DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE, BUT THE DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE AS WELL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IF I MAY JUST ADD TO THAT.

SO IN SLIDE 15 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE CURRENT YEAR, WE REDUCED THE TAX RATE BY 3.1 CENTS.

AND THAT WAS NOT ALL DUE TO US HAVING TO LOWER IT UNDER SB TWO, BECAUSE YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE ALSO LOWERED OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE BROUGHT DOWN THE OPERATING SIDE, THE GENERAL FUND SIDE BASED UPON THE LIMITATIONS UNDER SB TWO.

WE BROUGHT DOWN THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO AND RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO LOWER THAT SIDE OF THE RATE.

WELL, LET ME GO ON AND JUMP AHEAD TO THAT THEN, BECAUSE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT DEBT AS WELL.

SO AND THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO 27%. 7%, OR WE'VE REDUCED DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE BY 27%.

OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME HAS THAT BEEN SINCE FISCAL YEAR 11? OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT THE THE MOVEMENT IS DOWNWARD TO REDUCING THAT RATE.

SO I MEAN DEBT IS A TOOL. IT'S A FINANCIAL TOOL.

AND I THINK THERE'S UNDERSTANDING THE PERSPECTIVE OF THIS FINANCIAL TOOL.

SO WHAT IS THE STANDARD. I MEAN WHAT WHAT DO WE GO BY AND WHAT HOW DO WE COMPARE WITH OTHER CITIES WITH REGARD TO OUR OUR DEBT SERVICE.

SO SO WE DID THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS.

WE DID HAVE THIS QUESTION IN ADVANCE. SO I'M GOING TO ASK JUAN.

ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL THAT SLIDE UP? THANK YOU FOR FOR ASKING THIS QUESTION OF ME EARLIER.

WE WE HAVE A SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE COMPARISON TO SOME TO OUR TEXAS PEERS AND SOME OF THE METROPLEX COMMUNITIES AS WELL. SO I'M WAITING ON THAT TO BE PULLED UP.

SO WHAT YOU WILL FIND IS THAT ON A PER CAPITA BASIS WE FALL IN THE MIDDLE.

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BUT WE ARE BETTER, IF YOU WILL, THAN THE COMMUNITIES, THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE REGION.

SO ON OUR DEBT, GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT PER CAPITA.

AND THIS IS JUST THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT. WE ARE AT $1,908 PER CAPITA VERSUS HOUSTON.

THAT IS 1282. SO YOU'LL SEE HOUSTON, FORT WORTH, AUSTIN AND SAN ANTONIO BEING A LOWER DEBT PER CAPITA THAN THAN DALLAS. BUT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ON THIS BEING AT A HIGHER NUMBER.

SO AS I LOOK AT THESE CITIES, I MEAN, THIS IS OUR TOP TEN TEXAS CITIES, BUT I LOOK AT THEM AND I CAN JUST TELL JUST FROM WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THEM, THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES. I MEAN, OUR PRIORITIES MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN A HOUSTON OR CERTAINLY A FRISCO.

FRISCO IS A LOT NEWER THAN A DALLAS OR HOUSTON.

SO I'M JUST I AM A BELIEVER IN WORKING TO REDUCE THIS FURTHER, BUT I ALSO RESPECT THE TOOL AND WHAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO. WHAT ARE SOME JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND? LIKE SOME OF THE CATEGORIES YOU TALKED ABOUT, MASTER LEASE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO? IF I'M A RESIDENT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN EVERYDAY LIFE? WHAT I MIGHT SEE THAT THIS HELPS US ACCOMPLISH.

SO THANK YOU. AND ONE YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, BUT THE DEBT SERVICE AND THE TAX RATE THAT'S ALLOCATED TO OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND FOR OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION, IT FUNDS PROGRAMS THAT ARE APPROVED BY VOTERS IN THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM.

SO IN MAY OF 2024, WE HAD OVER $1 BILLION ELECTION AND VOTERS APPROVED.

AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM STREETS TO PARKS TO LIBRARIES AND POLICE ACADEMY AND OTHER FACILITIES.

WE ALSO USE THE DEBT SERVICE FUND TO PAY EQUIPMENT, NOTES AND EQUIPMENT.

NOTES IS A FINANCING TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO BORROW MONEY TO PAY FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF EQUIPMENT, SO IT MAY BE USED TO PAY FOR OUR EMS, OUR OUR AMBULANCES, OUR OUR FIRE APPARATUS.

WE ALSO USE A TOOL, MASTER LEASE, WHICH ALLOWS US TO ISSUE DEBT AND THE THE LENGTH OF THE DEBT IS MORE TIED TO THE THE LIFE OF THE ASSET THAT WE'RE BUYING. SO WHETHER THAT'S A TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE OR WHETHER THAT IS SQUAD CARS, WE FINANCE ACCORDING TO THE LIFE OF THE DEBT.

AND SO OR THE LIFE OF THE ASSET. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND, THAT WE'RE USING THIS PORTION OF OUR TAX RATE TO PAY FOR.

OKAY. SO WE JUST HAVE TO MANAGE IT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING.

WE HAVE TO USE SOME GUIDELINES, BUT ALSO RESPECT THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN UNIQUE NEEDS, AS DO THEY.

BUT I THINK WHEN A RESIDENT CAN SEE THAT THIS IS AN AMBULANCE OR, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A NEW HONDA, THIS IS A FIRE TRUCK. THEY COST A LOT OF MONEY.

AND SO JUST AS IN THEIR OWN HOUSEHOLD, SOMETIMES YOU'RE MAYBE YOU OPERATE ON ALL CASH, BUT SOME MAY, YOU KNOW, WANT TO HAVE A LOAN FOR THEIR HOME OR THEIR CAR.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO BE WATCHING THIS AND VERY PRUDENT.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THE DOWNWARD TRAJECTORY. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US MANAGE THAT AS CLOSELY AS WE CAN.

I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT ON PAGE 17. I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT SALES TAX LET'S ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO BUY DALLAS AND LURE THOSE.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON A BORDER WITH ANOTHER CITY, LET'S LURE THEM IN TO SPEND THEIR TAX DOLLARS IN OUR CITY.

GOING TO FFA. THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AROUND VISAS AND WHO CAN COME.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE WE'VE BEEN SO EXCITED ABOUT HAVING THE MOST GAMES OF ANYONE ELSE, AND WE KNOW THAT TEAMS AND COACHES CAN COME, BUT IF THEIR FAN BASE CAN'T COME TO THAT'S THAT CAN HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON US.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO OUR TEAM IS YET, BUT THAT CAN HAVE A REALLY BIG IMPACT IS OUR WHO'S DOING THE ANALYSIS.

AND I MEAN, I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOME WAY TO FACTOR THIS IN.

SO THE CONTRACT ECONOMIST IS DEVELOPING THE REVENUE FORECAST.

BUT WE DO HAVE STAFF PREVIOUS STAFF ON BOARD.

THAT'S PART OF THE PLANNING GROUP RELATED TO FIFA.

SO THEY'RE PROVIDING THE EXPENSE PROJECTIONS IN CONSULTATION WITH OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE EVENTS. THEY'RE RECEIVING GUIDANCE FROM THE PLANNING GROUP.

AND SO WE MEET MONTHLY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

SO IT'S ALMOST SOUNDING LIKE FIFA EXPENSE VERSUS SALES TAX GENERATION AS A WASH.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN WE THOUGHT WE HAD FIVE GAMES, THAT WAS $400 MILLION IMPACT.

AND SO I'M YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'LL GET HOT TAX AND OTHER THINGS THAT MAY MAKE IT.

WELL, WE'LL MAKE AN IMPACT, BUT IN A MORE NARROW WAY.

SO YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD LIKE, NO, IT'S NOT A WASH.

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AND SO I'M STILL WORKING WITH THAT THAT PLANNING COMMITTEE TO TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT REIMBURSEMENT WE WILL RECEIVE COMPARED TO WHAT EXPENSES WE HAVE FORECAST. AGAIN, AS JEANETTE MENTIONED, MOST OF THOSE EXPENSES ARE ALL PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND SO JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT WILL BE REIMBURSED.

AND WILL WE GET 100% REIMBURSED, WILL WE NOT.

JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT IS STILL A QUESTION MARK FOR US.

OKAY. AND I KNOW THERE'S STILL NUMBERS TO COME ON THAT.

ON PAGE 21, WE TALK ABOUT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FEES.

I THOUGHT WE HAD JUST REVIEWED THOSE AND THEN WE REFERENCED LATER ON PAGE 45 THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 26, LATE, LATE 26. SO THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FEES ON SLIDE 21 REFER TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

SO THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND COMPONENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

THE ENTERPRISE DISCUSSION IS RELATED TO THE ENTERPRISE SIDE OF PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.

SO YOU'RE BUILDING INSPECTION RELATED FEES. YOU ALL DID RECEIVE AN UPDATE THIS YEAR REGARDING A CHANGE TO ONE OF THEIR FEES.

SO THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU. AND THEN THEY ARE GETTING INTO THE ROTATION OF FREQUENTLY UPDATING THEIR FEES.

IF YOU RECALL FROM THE FEE DISCUSSION THE FEES THAT YOU APPROVED A YEAR OR SO AGO THE LAST FEE UPDATE WAS SEVERAL YEARS PRIOR TO THAT.

SO THE CONVERSATION REALLY IS ABOUT GETTING INTO A REGULAR RHYTHM OF UPDATING THEIR FEES.

UNDERSTOOD. AND I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER THE IMPACT THAT MADE BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN SO LONG. IT HAD A REAL WALLOP.

AND THAT'S JUST A CONCERN THAT I HAD ON THAT.

WHILE WE DO WANT TO RECOVER, WELL, I'LL GET INTO THAT IN THE NEXT ROUND.

THANK YOU. FOR THE FIRST TIME, MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON AGENDA ITEM A FROM OUR BRIEFING AGENDA TODAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST REALLY, IT'S CLARIFICATIONS.

AND SINCE I'M NEW TO THIS PROCESS, I HOPE THESE QUESTIONS WON'T SEEM TOO SIMPLE.

WITH REGARD TO ON PAGE 28 ON THE PENSION ALLOCATION FUNDS ARE IS THAT 240IN THE 60 MILLION? ARE THEY IS THAT ALREADY INCLUDED? IN IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGETS AND IT'S BEEN PUSHED FORWARD INTO THE NEXT TWO.

YES. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR FIRST THOUGHTFUL QUESTION.

YES. SO LAST AUGUST COUNCIL, WE PRESENTED A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL RELATED TO BOTH POLICE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM, AS WELL AS THE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT FUND.

AND THEN AS PART OF THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET LAST YEAR, WE INCLUDED THOSE ASSUMPTIONS IN OUR FIVE YEAR FORECAST.

SO THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING TODAY ABOUT ADDITIONAL EXPENSES WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN INCREASE IN PENSION.

THOSE HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCLUDED. THEY'RE PART OF THE PLAN BUDGET.

AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE INCREASING ACCORDING TO THE PLAN THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED LAST AUGUST, WHICH WAS A STEP UP OVER FIVE YEARS, RATHER THAN GOING IMMEDIATELY TO AN ACTUARIALLY DETERMINED CONTRIBUTION RATE BECAUSE THAT WAS GOING TO REQUIRE LIKE $70 MILLION INCREASE AT ONE TIME. SO WE WORKED ON THE PLAN THAT WE PHASED THAT UP OVER FIVE YEARS WITH SOME FIXED AMOUNTS.

AND THEN IN THE FIFTH YEAR, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE ACTUARIALLY DETERMINED CONTRIBUTION.

RIGHT. SO IT'S PAYING IT DOWN OVER A FASTER OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD RATHER THAN AN EXTENDED PERIOD.

YEAH. SO BUILDING UP TO THE OVER THE FIVE YEARS TO THE ADC AND THEN THE PLAN PAYS OFF THE UNFUNDED LIABILITY OVER A COURSE OF 30 YEARS THAT MEETS THE PENSION REVIEW BOARD REQUIREMENTS.

BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. ON PAGE 31. I'M A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR AS TO THE ALLOCATION FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS.

A COMMITMENT FOR FOR SALARIES. IS THIS ARE WE ADDING 400 OFFICERS IN THIS? ARE WE ADDING 50 PEOPLE? AND BECAUSE THE $9 MILLION MAY BE A LITTLE BIT LIGHT IF YOU'RE ADDING 400.

SO THE THE NUMBERS WOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THE INCREMENT THAT WAS NEEDED, BECAUSE WE HAD ALREADY ASSUMED THAT WE WOULD HIRE 250 IN A GIVEN YEAR.

AND SO COUNCIL DIRECTION FROM FEBRUARY THE 26TH OF THIS YEAR REQUIRED US TO CHANGE OUR FORECAST OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AND SO INSTEAD OF HIRING 250 IN FISCAL YEAR 26, WE'VE INCREASED THAT TO HIRE 350 INSTEAD OF HIRING 250 IN FISCAL YEAR 27. WE INCREASED THAT TO HIRING 400.

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AND THEN IT'S ALSO NOT NECESSARILY A FULL YEAR COST BECAUSE WE HAVE A SCHEDULE OF THE ACADEMIES AND WHEN THEY WOULD COME ON.

SO FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THEY'RE CHEAPER IN THE FIRST YEAR.

YOU HIRE THEM BECAUSE YOU DON'T PAY THEM FOR THE FULL YEAR.

AND SO WE FACTOR THAT IN. AND THEN IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEAR WE HAVE TO FUND THE FULL CYCLE.

JUST BIG. WELL, JUST JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, BACK OF THE ENVELOPE NUMBERS.

IF YOU'RE ADDING 50 PEOPLE, SAY 200,000 JUST FOR A COST NUMBER, THAT WOULD BE 10 MILLION.

SO IS THAT SORT OF WHAT YOU'RE PROJECTING IS A NET ADD OF 50? SO THAT'S A GOOD OBSERVATION. SO WHEN I PRESENTED THIS SLIDE I SAID WE'RE ADDING 350 OFFICERS.

WHAT'S NOT SHOWN HERE IS THE ATTRITION. SO THE NET IMPACT IN FISCAL YEAR 26 IS 100 ADDITIONAL OFFICERS.

AND THEN THE NET IMPACT IN FISCAL YEAR 27 IS 150.

SO 150 TIMES 200 WOULD BE 30 MILLION WOULDN'T IT.

INSTEAD OF NINE. THE OTHER FACTOR IN THIS EQUATION.

SO WE DON'T ASSUME THAT WE HIRE ALL THE OFFICERS ON OCTOBER 1ST.

SO CLASSES ARE STAGED THROUGHOUT THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE FIRST YEAR IS THE PARTIAL PARTIAL YEAR COST AND THEN THE FULL YEAR COST.

SAME THING FOR 27. YOU SEE THE PARTIAL PARTIAL YEAR COST AND THEN THE FULL YEAR COST.

GREAT. SO YOU PHASED IT IN. SO. SO IT'S IT'S IT'S FIGURED OUT.

AND AND THIS IS ONLY THE SALARY ASSOCIATED WITH THE OFFICERS.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT, ADDITIONAL VEHICLES.

AND THAT'S, THAT IS A FACTOR THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED IN.

BUT THIS IS MORE A SALARY ONLY TYPE OF COMPARISON.

COUNCILMEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I CAN ALSO JUST JUMP IN, I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT THIS PUBLICLY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS.

SO IN FY 26, ACCORDING TO THE RESOLUTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED IN FEBRUARY, WE WOULD INCREASE OUR HIRING GOAL TO 350.

IN FY 27, WE WOULD INCREASE THAT TO 400, AND WE WOULD DO 400 ALSO FOR 28 AND FOR 29.

BY THE TIME WE WOULD GET TO FY 29, WE WOULD HOPE TO BE AT SWORN STRENGTH OF OVER 4000.

SO THE PLAN WOULD BE EVERY SINGLE YEAR AFTER 26 TO DO A HIRING GOAL OF 400 EACH YEAR.

SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE A NET TO END UP WITH THE THOUSAND TO THE 4000.

YES, SIR. BY 20, BY FY 29, WE SHOULD BE OVER 4000.

BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. MY MY OTHER QUESTION ON ON PAGE 31, ALSO IS RELATIVE TO I'M ASSUMING MAJOR MAINTENANCE ALSO HAS TO DO WITH REAL ESTATE ISSUES. I WOULD JUST SORT OF TRY TO UNDERSTAND, ARE THERE GOING TO BE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL UNUSUAL REAL ESTATE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF OF SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I KNOW THAT MR. RIDLEY HAD BROUGHT THAT UP, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED, OR AT LEAST WANT TO BE AWARE OF.

I UNDERSTAND WE MAY BE DISPOSING OF SOME PROPERTIES THIS YEAR.

THIS NEXT YEAR, WE MAY ALSO BE EVALUATING AND AND ESTABLISHING NEW PROJECTS RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE SPORTS STUFF AND MAYBE SOME OTHER ACQUISITIONS. AND HAS THERE BEEN ANY MAYBE AN ALLOCATION FOR SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS AND AND EXPENSES RELATED TO DISPOSITION, A NEW PROJECT ACQUISITION, AS WELL AS ONGOING MAINTENANCE, REPAIR FOR SOME OF THE VACANT BUILDINGS AND SOME OF THE BUILDINGS WE'RE NOT USING.

TOTALLY. SO THIS THIS SPECIFICALLY IS TO ADDRESS JUST DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IN EXISTING BUILDINGS.

AND THE COUNCIL HAS TALKED SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST, I GUESS, SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR ABOUT OUR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND OUR FAILURE, IF YOU WILL. SORRY, BUT TO TO REALLY MEET THE NEEDS OF TAKING CARE OF OUR EXISTING BUILDINGS.

SO THIS IS TRYING TO INCREASE THAT FUNDING LEVEL.

REGARDING THE SALE OF PROPERTIES YOU ACTUALLY WILL HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR APPROVAL NEXT WEEK A CHANGE TO A CITY COUNCIL POLICY THAT DATES BACK TO 1977. HOW WE USE THE PROCEEDS WHEN WE SELL SURPLUS PROPERTY.

THE RESOLUTION FROM 1977 INDICATES THAT WE USE IT FOR MAJOR MAINTENANCE, AND THAT HAS BEEN OUR PRIMARY SOURCE OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE EACH YEAR TO FUND MAJOR MAINTENANCE. AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH, BUT THE EXPANSION OF THE USE THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL WAS BRIEFED TO OUR GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE RECENTLY, AND IS FOR APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK.

CHANGES THAT TO ADD A NEW USE THAT WHEN PROPERTIES EXCEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT WE WILL START SPLITTING THOSE PROCEEDS WITH PART OF IT CONTINUING TO GO FOR MAJOR

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SO THAT WILL BE COMING FOR A VOTE, AND I'LL PROBABLY NEED TO SEND OUT A MEMO THIS FRIDAY FOR EVERYONE, JUST REMINDING OF WHAT THAT IS AND LAYING IT OUT, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW MEMBERS.

BUT THAT'S ONE THING ABOUT THE THE USE OF THOSE SURPLUS SURPLUS PROPERTIES THAT YOU MENTIONED.

THANK YOU FOR FOR CLARIFICATION OF SORT OF FOLLOW UP ON DOES THAT DO THESE NUMBERS ALSO INCLUDE OPERATIONAL COSTS JUST TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, KEEP THESE BUILDINGS SORT OF FED AND CLOTHED, YOU KNOW WITH UTILITIES AND, AND INSURANCE AND WHATEVER THE, YOU KNOW, THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE, ESPECIALLY IN VIEW OF THE FACT THAT COSTS ARE GENERALLY GOING UP SIGNIFICANTLY ALL OVER.

SO WE DO HAVE FUNDS NOT AS PART OF THIS PAGE, BUT AS PART OF THE BASE BUDGET THAT WAS BUILT INTO THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS FROM LAST SUMMER THAT DO INCLUDE, LIKE UTILITIES AND THE OPERATIONS, BUT AGAIN, A SHORTFALL IN THE ABILITY TO REALLY ADDRESS THOSE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ITEMS. BUT THE BASIC OPERATIONS THE FUNDING WAS IN THE BASE NUMBER.

OKAY. BECAUSE I'M NEW. I HAVEN'T BEEN PRIVY TO THE DISCUSSIONS ON THE LIVING WAGE VERSUS THE MINIMUM WAGE.

IS THERE SOME COLLATERAL MATERIAL OR SOME EXPLANATION MATERIAL AS TO MAYBE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH US? IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN SORT OF HELPING TO EVALUATE YOUR REQUEST FOR THE NEXT.

YES, SIR. WE CAN GET YOU SOME INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT JUST A VERY SHORT ANSWER ON IT, IF I MAY.

SO THE LIVING WAGE POLICY REQUIRES THAT WE USE THE MIT LIVING WAGE.

THEY, THEY PUT OUT A SURVEY IN AN AMOUNT EACH YEAR THAT IS SPECIFIC TO OUR REGION.

AND IT'S THE LIVING WAGE IS IN A POLICY THAT FOR ANY CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY LETS, THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE THOSE CONTRACTORS TO PAY THE LIVING WAGE. AND AS FAR AS A POLICY RELATED TO WHAT OUR PAY IS FOR CITY EMPLOYEES, WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC POLICY. AND SO OUR LOWEST PAID WAGE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW IS $19.50 AN HOUR.

THAT'S THE MINIMUM WAGE THAT HAS AN EMPLOYER WE ARE PAYING THAT FALLS BELOW THE LIVING WAGE THAT MIT HAS CALCULATED, WHICH I BELIEVE IS BETWEEN 22 AND $23 AN HOUR.

SO THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE HAVE A SPECIFIC POLICY RELATED TO OUR EMPLOYEES? SHOULD WE TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THE LIVING WAGE? ACCORDING TO THE MIT CALCULATION? IF WE DO, IT PUTS US ABOVE MARKET.

SO IF WE PAY I'M GOING TO PICK ON SOMEONE, I GUESS A PART TIME LIFEGUARD AT THE PARKS.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE TO PAY OUR MINIMUM WAGE, WHICH RIGHT NOW IS $19.50.

DO WE CONTINUE TO GO UP TO THE LIVING WAGE, WHICH MIGHT PUT IT ABOVE MARKET FOR WHAT? A LIFEGUARD IN THE REGION IS PAID AND SO DO WE WANT TO PAY HIGHER THAN MARKET, OR DO WE JUST WANT TO PAY MARKET KIND OF.

WHAT IS OUR POLICY RELATED TO THAT? BUT WE WILL GET YOU MATERIALS RELATED TO THAT COUNCIL POLICY.

AND WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SORT OF GET A COMPARISON AS TO OTHER SIMILAR SIZED MUNICIPALITIES, WHETHER THEY HAVE A SIMILAR POLICY? YEAH, WE CAN SHARE.

THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. YES, SIR. THE AS FAR AS THE THE CITY SALES TAX, WHAT WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OF THE, THE OVERALL SALES TAX THAT THE CITY GETS 1 OR 1% OR 2%, 1% OF THE 8.25 SALES TAX IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, 6.25 GOES TO THE STATE OF TEXAS, 1% TO DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT, AND 1% TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. GREAT JOB. GREAT JOB.

MISS STEWART. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM A.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST TO CLARIFICATION, BACK ON SLIDE 31.

I KNOW WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON THAT. AND MAYBE I'VE JUST MISSED SOMETHING, BUT IT SAYS THAT WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 100 OFFICERS TO BE HIRED IN 2025. AND MY BEST MEMORY IS IN THE CONVERSATIONS ON OFFICERS IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE GOING FROM 250 TO 300, BUT COULD NOT GO ABOVE THAT. I REMEMBER ASKING FOR 350 AND THEN ASKING FOR 325 AND BEING TOLD HOW MANY OFFICERS WOULD BE TAKEN OFF THIS PATROL IF WE WENT ABOVE 300. SO HOW DO WE HAVE 100 ADDITIONAL OFFICERS FOR FY 25? SO REGARDING THE OPERATIONS AND THE RECRUITMENT AND HOW THAT WORKS, I REALLY I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK SOMEONE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,

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IF I CAN'T, WE JUST I MEAN, SOME OF US HAD PUSHED FOR AND WANTED MORE THAN WE WANTED MORE THAN 250 AND WE'D, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE MORE THAN 300, BUT 300 SEEMED TO BE THE REALISTIC NUMBER.

SO I THOUGHT THAT'S WHERE WE WERE FOR 25, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO UP 50 PER YEAR UNTIL WE REACHED THE 400.

THAT WAS MY BEST MEMORY. SO I'M ASKING MARTIN RIOS WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF HELP OUT WITH THAT.

HELLO? HEY. MARTIN RIOS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, OVER THE FINANCIAL BUREAU.

SO IN PART OF WHAT'S IN THAT EQUATION WHEN IT WHEN YOU SEE THEIR US ADDING ADDITIONAL OFFICERS AND MONEY FOR THAT? WHEN WE ENDED LAST YEAR IN 24, EARLY TOWARDS THE LATER HALF OF THE YEAR, WE WERE PROJECTING TO END AT A CERTAIN NUMBER AND WE WERE BASING OUR 25 BUDGET BASED ON THOSE PROJECTIONS.

BUT THEN IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR, HIRING DID INCREASE, AND SO WE ENDED UP WITH ADDITIONAL OFFICERS ABOVE WHAT WE WERE BUDGETING AND PLANNING FOR. SO WHEN IT COMES TO 25, WE'RE NOT JUST ASKING FOR THE MONEY FOR THE RECRUITS THAT WE'RE HIRING THIS YEAR, BUT ALSO TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL RECRUITS THAT WE WERE NOT PLANNING FOR IN THE IN THE LAST QUARTER OF LAST YEAR.

AND SO THAT THAT MIGHT HELP EXPLAIN SOME OF THE VARIANCE THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF.

AND ASSISTANT CHIEF ISRAEL HERRERA IS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE RECRUITING EFFORTS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THAT. NO.

YOU'RE DOING A FABULOUS JOB. AND YES, THE RECRUITING NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP.

AND IF THAT'S IF THIS IS A REFLECTION OF THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE.

AND THAT'S WONDERFUL. SO THAT'S ALL GOOD NEWS.

GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. OTHER POINT IS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES AND METRICS.

CITY MANAGER, I THINK YOU HAD ASKED FOR SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT. AND FIRST, LET ME JUST SAY IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE TIE OUR SPENDING TO METRICS.

AND THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR INCLUDING THOSE METRICS HERE IN THIS REPORT.

AND PRESENTATION. I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THE SAFE PILLAR. WE SAID SAFE AS LARGEST CITY.

AND AND MY QUESTION IS SAFEST, LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE OR THE COUNTRY.

COULD WE QUALIFY THAT JUST A BIT? OR MAYBE IT'S JUST EVERYWHERE.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE SAFEST, LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY. AND DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT WE CLARIFY THE METRICS TO TRULY AGAIN, IT'S BACK TO THEN THAT SHOWS UP IN HOW WE INVEST OUR DOLLARS.

AND SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WOULD BE A PART OF HOW THE BUDGET WILL ROLL OUT AND THOSE METRICS WILL TRULY BE TIED TO WHAT EVEN OUR RESIDENTS ARE TELLING THEM THAT MATTERS TO THEM THE MOST. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE'LL CLARIFY THAT THAT SAFEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY. OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS BLACKMAN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM EIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR GIVING US ALL THIS DATA AND APPRECIATE YOU SITTING UP THERE.

SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND KIND OF GOING WHERE YOU FINISHED OFF ON THE METRICS.

SO ON 61, THIS IS A THE REAL SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WAS GIVEN TO US.

IS THAT CORRECT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO THE THE IMAGE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A KIND OF A MOCK UP OF A FRAMEWORK OF HOW WE MIGHT PRESENT THIS IN A SIMPLIFIED WAY, SORT OF AN OVERALL SCORE OR GRADE FOR HOW WE'RE DOING.

BUT ARE THOSE NUMBERS SCORING? NO. OKAY. SORRY.

OKAY. IN THE FINE PRINT, IT SAYS THESE. THIS IS MADE UP FOR THE FINE.

MY APOLOGIES. NO MOCK UP. NOT REAL DATA. OKAY.

BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING WHY VIBRANT, WHICH IS OUR PARKS, LIBRARIES AND ARTS WAS SO LOW.

BUT YET THAT IS A HIGH NUMBER OF OF EXPENSES.

SO OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. AND I'M SORRY, I JUST MY I GUESS I NEED BIGGER READERS.

WE SHOULD MAKE IT BIGGER. WE GOT IT. THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT FEES? BECAUSE I THINK LAST YEAR WAS HOW WE MANAGED TO DO SOME BALANCING OF OUR BUDGET.

WHAT IS OUR APPROACH TOWARDS FEES THIS TIME AROUND? SO WE HAVE A FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA THAT REQUIRES A REVIEW OF FEES EVERY FOUR YEARS. WE ALWAYS MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR FEE FEE TYPE THAT IT WILL BE 100% COST RECOVERY. HOWEVER, WE DO RECEIVE GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL THAT CERTAIN FEE CATEGORIES MAY BE TOO HIGH.

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WE ACTUALLY HAD AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA EARLIER THIS MONTH TO RECEIVE SPECIFIC GUIDANCE FROM YOU ALL ON WHAT'S APPROPRIATE TO GO UP TO 100% COST RECOVERY.

WHEN DO YOU WANT US TO, TO PHASE A FEE? OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD.

BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE ARE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS ON HISTORICAL NORMS AND THAT MAY NOT ALIGN WITH YOUR CURRENT PRIORITIES.

SO I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE TOWING FEES.

DO YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON ANY OF THAT? BECAUSE I THINK IT WAS IN EARLY 2000, THE LAST TIME THAT WE ADJUSTED THAT.

SO THE RECOMMENDATION THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK REGARDING TOWING FEES.

SO THEY ARE LISTED ON SLIDE NUMBER 90. WE ARE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO GO UP TO THE AMOUNT THAT'S ALLOWED BY STATE.

SO YOU SEE THAT THERE ON ON SLIDE 90. AND DO WHERE DOES THAT MONEY GO.

IT GOES TO THE GENERAL FUND. AND WE ARE THE ONES THAT CAN BASICALLY SAY WE WANT IT EARMARKED FOR X OR TO GO TOWARDS THAT.

CAN WE DO THAT. SO HISTORICALLY WE DO NOT EARMARK SPECIFIC FUNDS RELATED TO FEES FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

SO IN THEORY THE FEE THAT'S COLLECTED IS COLLECTED FOR THE SERVICE THAT IS OFFERED.

MOST OF THESE FEES ARE WITHIN GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS.

THEY'RE NOT ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENTS. SO FOR EXAMPLE CO COMPLIANCE COLLECTS FEES FOR DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE.

HOWEVER, THE FEES THAT THEY COLLECT DO NOT COVER ALL OF THEIR EXPENSES.

SO THAT IS WHY WE DON'T EARMARK ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

JUST JUST MAKING SURE. BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE ON.

SECONDLY, I GUESS BACK ON, WAS IT 31 WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEBT? AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID A LOT OF BIG DEBT BECAUSE OF VARIOUS REASONS.

I GUESS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, FOR VARIOUS REASONS, I MEAN FOR VARIOUS THINGS, BIG ITEMS, YES, YOU MAY NEED TO PUT IT ON A, ON A PLAN, A PAYMENT PLAN, IF YOU WILL.

BUT I GUESS THE WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS WHAT IS THE COST OF MONEY, RIGHT.

BECAUSE SOMETIMES INTEREST RATES PLAY A FACTOR IN THIS.

AND HAVE WE EVALUATED AND DID A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.

SO WE MAY BE TAKING OUT A LITTLE DEBT, BUT WE GOT X MORE OUT OF THAT OR WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY AS MUCH.

WE GOT THERE WAS A BIGGER IMPACT. SO I THINK LOOKING AT IT STRAIGHT FROM A A NUMBERS IS IS GOOD.

BUT I ALSO THINK A COST BENEFIT IS IS NEEDED AS WELL.

SO SO TELL ME, DO WE HAVE WHAT IT COST IF WE ADD ALL OUR DEBT UP? WHAT DID IT COST US TO TO TAKE THAT DEBT OUT? AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT JUST I THINK I JUST WANT TO SEE IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, INTEREST RATES PLAY A FACTOR IN ALL THIS. AND DIFFERENT YEARS HAD DIFFERENT RATES.

AND AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IS THE BENEFIT THAT WE GOT, YOU KNOW, 50 MORE MILES OF STREETS PER DISTRICT.

RIGHT. WHICH IS THEN 500 MORE MILES. THAT IS A BENEFIT.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, MOST CORPORATIONS DO WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT ADDING TO THEIR TO THEIR BOTTOM LINE IS THEY EVALUATE WHAT IS THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AND WHAT IS THE BENEFIT.

AND, AND I THINK YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ON A LITTLE DEBT IF WE'RE GOING TO HIRE MORE OFFICERS.

WE'VE, WE'VE OR FIGURE OUT WHAT IS MOVE OVER HERE TO MOVE OVER THERE TO GET THEM, YOU KNOW, THEIR CARS, THEIR EQUIPMENT, WHATEVER IT IS. OR IN THIS, YOU KNOW, A CAT.

I MEAN, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE ON DEBT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE AT A WAY THAT IS EXTRAORDINARY.

BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE. WE NEED TO COME IN WITH CLEAR EYES ON WHAT THAT COST IS.

JACK, DID YOU WANT TO SAY YES, MA'AM? THANK YOU.

WE CAN PROVIDE YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE PRINCIPAL VERSUS THE INTEREST RELATED TO OUR EXISTING DEBT.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT YOU MENTIONED ADDING OFFICERS.

I JUST DON'T WANT ANYONE TO MISUNDERSTAND. I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS, BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR SALARIES WITH DEBT, CORRECT? CORRECT. IT WOULD JUST BE THE EQUIPMENT AND THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.

OPERATING COSTS ARE PAID OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

SO IF WE ADD OFFICERS, IT'S PAID OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

THE QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY IN THE GENERAL FUND TO FULLY LOAD ALL OF THE COST, WHETHER IT IS BODY WORN CAMERAS AND CARS, MAYBE SUBSTATION.

YEAH, ALL NEW SUBSTATION, ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT MAY COME ALONG WITH A NEED RELATED TO ADDING TO THE SIZE OF OUR FORCE.

THOSE CAN BE DEBT FINANCED. AND SO WE WOULD LOOK TO THAT WHERE WHERE APPROPRIATE.

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I JUST THINK IT'S INTERESTING TO KNOW. AND IF WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE OUT YOU KNOW, DEBT FOR PAYING OFF PENSION OBLIGATIONS OR WHATEVER.

IT'S JUST GOOD TO KNOW THAT I THINK THAT'S IT.

AND IF I REMEMBER SOMETHING. OH, YOU WANTED FEEDBACK ON THE LIVING WAGE POLICY? I MEAN, IF WE'RE ASKING OUR CONTRACTORS TO FOLLOW IT, FOLLOW SOMETHING.

I THINK WE, AS THE CITY SHOULD FOLLOW IT AS WELL.

SO WHATEVER WE PUT IN WITH A WITH OUR CONTRACTS, WE AS THE CITY SHOULD DO THAT AS WELL.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW, METRICS DO GUIDE HOW YOU SPEND YOUR ALLOCATE, HOW YOU SPEND YOUR RESOURCES. AND SO BUT IT'S ALSO THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.

SO IT'S A BALANCING ACT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE I MEAN WE HAVE THREE MORE MONTHS FOR THIS FOR THIS BUDGET TO EVOLVE.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION LEADING UP UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER.

SO Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD SUMMER. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON, I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK FOR JUST A MINUTE ON YOUR COMMENTS AROUND THE VALUE OF THE THE BOND PROGRAM. I THINK AS A CITY OF OUR SIZE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE'RE ALSO FACING IS THAT WE HAVE HAD SOME UNDERINVESTMENT IN CERTAIN AREAS.

AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE WAYS THAT WE'VE UTILIZED IT, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO COME BACK AND HAVE SOME POLICY DISCUSSIONS AROUND WAYS THAT WE'RE ALMOST HAVING TO CATCH UP.

AND SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT WE MUST CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON WITH OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES.

HOW DO WE TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS? BUT IN ORDER TO CATCH UP, IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IN PARTICULAR, THERE ARE GOING TO BE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PRIORITIZE EVEN IN FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS. AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO COME AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

SO AS WE DEVELOP THE GROUPS THAT ARE HELPING US PUT THE BOND PROGRAM AND THE PACKAGES TOGETHER, WE REALLY NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON THOSE AREAS WHERE WE ARE TRULY, TRULY CATCHING UP.

SO I THINK OVERALL, IT'LL BE A GOOD EXERCISE FOR US TO COME BACK AND EVEN DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS. TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SOME OF THE UNMET NEEDS AND THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT AS JUST THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS CONTINUES TO INCREASE.

THAT DEFINITELY DOES IMPACT THE GENERAL FUND.

SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER BE IN A POSITION WHERE EVERY SINGLE NEED OF OUR CITY WILL BE ABLE TO BE COVERED JUST THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I, I BRING THAT UP IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION.

I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY TALKED ABOUT A DEBT POLICY.

WHAT OUR SPENDING, YOU KNOW, LIMIT WOULD BE. I THINK WE NEED TO TO MAKE THAT BE A FOCUS CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNCIL.

AND IF I MAY AND I AGREE, WE THE MAINTENANCE SHOULDN'T BE OUT, IN MY OPINION.

MAYBE A FEW DOLLARS, BUT NOT ALL OF IT NEEDS TO COME FROM A BOND.

I'M SORRY. A PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT SHOULD BE OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND.

WE SHOULD NOT BE FINANCING THAT. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A THRESHOLD IN WHICH A PROJECT IS THAT MEETS.

BECAUSE $250,000 FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WE SHOULD BE FIGURING OUT IN OUR GENERAL BUDGET.

IN MY OPINION, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, A BIG PARK OR WHATEVER.

A REC CENTER. DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. AND AND WE NEED TO ACTUALLY THEN PUT MONEY ASIDE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THAT STUFF.

AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT MINOR MAINTENANCE I THINK I'VE DONE MY TIME.

MINOR MAINTENANCE SHOULDN'T BE IN BOND. THANK YOU, MISTER BAZALDUA.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

I'LL START ON THE LIVABLE WAGE CONVERSATION AS WELL.

YOU MENTIONED THE DIFFERENCE IN THE MIT LIVABLE WAGE STUDY AND THE MARKET STUDY.

CAN YOU ARTICULATE THE DIFFERENCE OF THE TWO? BECAUSE I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY WE'RE COMPARING THE TWO. SO THE THE MIT LIVING WAGE IS MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY. IT'S A STUDY THEY DO THEY PUT OUT.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT ALL THE VARIABLES ARE THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT, BUT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPECIFIC TO WHAT THE LIVING WAGE FOR DALLAS SHOULD BE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT A MARKET STUDY, WHETHER IT'S WHAT WE SHOULD PAY ANY OF OUR POSITIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE POSITIONS ARE EARNING IN OUR REGION WITHIN OUR, OUR PEERS.

AND SO THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU PAY COMPARED TO YOUR MARKET OR DO YOU PAY SOMETHING WHAT FACTORS IN THAT MARKET STUDY?

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IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO LIVE IN THAT SPECIFIC PLACE, BECAUSE WE'RE COMPARING OUR MARKET STUDIES ARE TYPICALLY DONE WITHIN OUR REGION AND WOULD COMPARE WHAT DO WE PAY A AGAIN I'M GOING TO USE MY MY LIFE CARD EXAMPLE.

WHAT DO WE COMPARE FOR PAY FOR A LIFEGUARD COMPARED TO THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE NORTH TEXAS REGION? FOR THAT PURPOSE. AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S LOOK AT THAT, THAT THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE, BECAUSE IT COSTS A LOT LESS TO LIVE IN OTHER PLACES IN OUR REGION.

SO FOR US TO JUST GO FOR A MARKET STUDY BASED ON AN INDUSTRY IN A SPECIFIC POSITION IS REALLY MISSING THE MARK.

WHEN THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE LIVABLE WAGE POLICY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE HOURLY EMPLOYEES IN OUR CITY CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO LIVE IN OUR CITY.

I THINK THAT THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS.

I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE OUR BODY TO STAND FIRM ON PROVIDING A LIVABLE WAGE FOR EMPLOYEES. POINT BLANK, I DON'T LOOK AT OUR HOURLY EMPLOYEES AS LOW HANGING FRUIT, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AN EASY PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. MEANWHILE, WE'RE REALLY HURTING THOSE WHO REALLY NEED OUR SUPPORT MOST IN ORDER TO KEEP UP WITH THE COSTS THAT GO INTO THAT MIT LIVABLE WAGE STUDY THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE COST OF GOODS, THE COST OF HOUSING, THE COST OF INSURANCE PREMIUMS, ETC. NONE OF THAT IS WEIGHED IN TO A MARKET STUDY THAT COMPARES SOMEONE WHO MAY BE LIVING AND IS A PART TIME LIFEGUARD IN AVILA, TEXAS, VERSUS THAT OF LIVING SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE SHOULD WE SHOULD BE COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES HERE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LIVABLE WAGES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING FOR OUR HOURLY EMPLOYEES.

I THINK THAT THE EXAMPLE YOU GAVE IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO HAVE THAT I KNOW WAS A PROPOSAL THAT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED BY THIS BODY FROM OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY TO INCORPORATE THE PART TIME EMPLOYEES TO HAVE THE SAME BENEFIT AND WAGE STANDARD AS WE HAD FOR OUR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. BUT TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER, BECAUSE IT'S A WAY THAT WE CAN SAVE A COUPLE OF DECIMALS ON A HARD BUDGET.

YEAR TO ME IS NOT OKAY, ESPECIALLY WHENEVER IT'S AT THE BACKS OF OUR HOURLY EMPLOYEES.

ON THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SLIDE NUMBER 11 I DIDN'T SEE WHERE THE I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE THE BILL THAT WAS THE TAX PLAN THAT WAS JUST SIGNED IN YESTERDAY, ACTUALLY, BY GOVERNOR ABBOTT WHEN WE BUT I DIDN'T SEE THIS REFLECT THE THE ACTUAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

THAT IS NOT FOR 65 AND OVER. I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS ALSO INCREASED TO 140,000 EVALUATION.

SO SO THIS SLIDE IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO I'M SHOWING ON THIS SLIDE THAT COUNCIL APPROVED THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH IS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT IS 20%. FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION. YOU ALSO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT TO 175,000 ON JUNE 11TH.

AND SO THIS SLIDE IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS.

NOT ALL OF THE OTHER EXEMPTIONS THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO A TAXPAYER.

SO WITH THE THE INCREASE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE 65 AND OVER IS NOW UP TO 200 STATEWIDE AND THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS UP TO 140.

WHAT WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT HAVE ON THESE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE GIVING US TODAY? SO SO AGAIN, THIS IS SPECIFIC TO THE CITY, NOT FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR OTHER EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY STATE LAW.

I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING, THOUGH, IS IF THE STATE IS ALLOWING FOR AN EXEMPTION UP TO 200,000.

OUR POLICY WOULDN'T SUPERSEDE THAT. SO CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT IS THAT WORKS.

COUNCILMEMBER BAZALDUA JAKE ANDERSON, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. YOU'RE REFERRING TO SENATE BILL 23, WHICH WAS SPECIFIC TO SCHOOL DISTRICT RESIDENTS.

HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS? YES. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WANTING TO KNOW.

ON SLIDE 14. DO YOU HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN ON THE CAP SPECIFIC TO PROJECTION FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION?

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SO THE FORECAST ASSUMES BOTH THE REAPPRAISAL CAP AND IT MAKES AN ASSUMPTION RELATED TO NEW CONSTRUCTION.

SO BOTH OF THOSE COMPONENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THE FORECAST.

AND THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS NOT CAPPED. CORRECT.

ONLY REVENUE FROM REAPPRAISAL IS CAPPED. AND SO YOU GET IT THE FIRST YEAR THAT IT COMES ON THE TAX ROLL.

AS NEW CONSTRUCTION YOU GET THAT ADDED WITH NO CAP.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF WE HAD A RATE THAT WOULD OF COURSE BE BOUND BY A CAP WOULD COULD WE BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT WE SET THAT RATE TO WITH AN EXPECTATION FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION TO BE TAXED HIGHER? UNDER STATE LAW, YOUR TAX RATE HAS TO BE UNIFORM ACROSS ALL PROPERTIES.

OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING. ON 23, CAN YOU GIVE ME A MORE ELABORATE EXPLANATION ON THE. I KNOW THAT THIS IS THE PLAN OF EXPENDITURES, BUT THE.

CAN YOU IS THERE A BREAKDOWN ON THE UNIFORM? OVERTIME, FROM FIRE TO POLICE.

WE CAN PROVIDE THAT IN A FOLLOW UP RESPONSE. OKAY.

CITY MANAGER, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO SEE THAT THAT NUMBER GO DOWN? IT SEEMS TO BE A CONVERSATION WE HAVE EVERY FALL.

AND IT ONLY CONTINUES TO GROW. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK IT'S BEEN A FEW MONTHS TO BRING IN A FOCUS CONVERSATION WITH THIS BODY ON WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY TRACKING ON OVERTIME.

I THINK IT'S BEEN AT LEAST 3 OR 4 MONTHS. SO I THINK THAT AS WE GO INTO THIS THE SUMMER WE'RE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT AS WE TALK ABOUT OFFICERS AND WE TALK ABOUT GREATER EFFICIENCIES, WE TALK ABOUT WAYS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE UTILIZING CIVILIANS IN KEY ROLES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AREAS AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE WAY WE'RE USING TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU SHOULD BE SEEING THOSE NUMBERS COMING DOWN, I THINK, IN FEBRUARY. AND TEAM. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

WE'RE ACTUALLY SHOWING A DECREASE. AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS AGAIN BASED ON WHAT WE PLANNED, BUT SHOULD NOT BE WHERE WE ACTUALLY END UP JUST BECAUSE WE'RE PUSHING TO CONTINUE WITH THOSE EFFICIENCIES ACROSS BOTH THE POLICE AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I DO BELIEVE THAT IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, I THINK POLICE OVERTIME IS DOWN CURRENTLY.

BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT PERCENTAGES OF WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO END THE YEAR.

BUT GOING DOWN FROM WHAT, YOUR PROJECTION. NO, I THINK IT'S DOWN FROM WHAT WE ACTUALLY BUDGETED.

BUT AGAIN. SO BUT NOT YEAR TO YEAR. IT'S JUST IT SEEMS A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS TO JUST SAY IT'S DOWN BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY NOT DOWN.

IT'S CONTINUING TO RISE YEAR OVER YEAR. SO IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR TO WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING, WHERE WE SHOULD END IN 2025. AND I'LL HAVE MARTIN TO GO INTO THE DETAILS.

BUT I DO BELIEVE FOR WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING FOR 2025, WE WOULD SEE THAT NUMBER COMING DOWN VERSUS WHAT WE SPEND IN OVERTIME IN FY 24.

AND LIKEWISE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL, THAT THE NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY ON THE DECREASE.

BUT I'LL LET MARTIN JUMP IN AND SHARE MORE DETAILS AROUND IT.

YEAH. BEFORE MARTIN GOES THERE, IF I COULD JUST TALK ABOUT BOTH POLICE AND FIRE ON PAGE 23 AND 24.

SO ON 23, YOU SEE THE ACTUALS FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 THROUGH 24 AND OVERTIME DID FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS COMBINED WAS INCREASING.

AND IN FISCAL YEAR NINE, FISCAL YEAR 24, THE ACTUAL FOR THE TWO DEPARTMENTS WAS JUST OVER $98 MILLION.

AND THEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, THE YEAR THAT WE'RE IN NOW ON PAGE 24, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE BROUGHT THAT DOWN FROM THE ACTUAL LAST YEAR OF $98 MILLION, AND WE ONLY BUDGETED $87 MILLION. SO WE DID HAVE A DECREASE IN THE OVERALL OVERTIME BUDGET FOR UNIFORM, AND WE REDUCED IT FROM $98 MILLION DOWN TO 87.6.

OUR CURRENT FORECAST IS THAT WE ARE SLIGHTLY UNDER THAT AT ABOUT 600,000, LESS THAN THAT FOR THE YEAR.

AND THEN FOR NEXT YEAR, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE SAYING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, $79.4 MILLION.

SO WE WOULD BE BRINGING THAT DOWN FURTHER FOR THE TWO DEPARTMENTS COMBINED.

AND MARTIN, I APOLOGIZE. I'LL LET YOU SPEAK SPECIFICALLY. AND WE CAN DEFINITELY. I THINK YOU ALSO WANT TO SEE THE BREAKOUT OF THAT. WE CAN BREAK THAT OUT FOR YOU. SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POLICE AND THE FIRE.

YES, I KNOW WE HAD SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS IN FIRE, SO I THINK THE BREAKDOWN IS VERY HELPFUL.

YES, SIR. YES. MARTIN ROJAS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE FINANCIAL BUREAU FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR. UP TO THIS POINT, WHAT WE HAVE REALIZED IS A 10% DECREASE IN OVERTIME HOURS.

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BUT IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE OVERTIME HOURS AND WHEN WE FOCUS ON OURS.

WE ARE TRENDING FROM LAST YEAR 10% LESS IN TERMS OF OVERTIME HOURS.

NOW, WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING RECENTLY WITH THE PROTESTS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING? WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE REST OF THIS YEAR WILL LOOK LIKE. SO I CAN'T I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO END THE YEAR 10% LESS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD.

BUT UP TO THIS POINT, WE HAVE BEEN SEEING A 10% DECREASE YEAR OVER YEAR.

AND I THINK WHAT PLAYS INTO THAT, TOO, IS AS MARTIN IS DESCRIBING, YOU MAY SEE THE HOURS DECREASE, BUT AS WE OF COURSE MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS AND OFFICER PAY, IF THE PAY IS GOING UP, YOU MAY SEE A DECREASE IN THE HOURS, BUT THEN THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE SPENDING MIGHT BE GREATER JUST BECAUSE OF THE INCREASES IN SALARY.

SO THE TWO WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE FACTORS.

THANK YOU. I'LL WAIT FOR A SECOND ROUND. MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM EIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND WELCOME TO OUR NEW COLLEAGUES.

CITY MANAGER, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR INTRODUCING THIS NEW PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE DELIVERING ON OUR BASIC SERVICES.

I LOOK FORWARD TO DIVING DEEPER INTO OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY TO SEE THAT BUT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT AND THE PERFORMANCE, THE METRICS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING ON THE SERVICES THAT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.

I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS IN ON THE DEP SERVICES.

AND WHEN WE GET A LIST OF THOSE CITIES. NOT ONLY DO I WANT TO SEE PIER CITIES, BUT I WANT TO SEE CITIES THAT ARE COMPARABLE IN THE AGE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL TO SEE HOW INFRASTRUCTURE IS COMPARED.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ENTERPRISES, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES WE ADDRESS CAPITAL EXPENSES THROUGH A BOND VERSUS FEES. IS THERE A REASON, WHEN THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME OF THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE CAPITAL EXPENSES, THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A BOND RATHER THAN THROUGH THAT DEPARTMENT? SO ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE PAID BY THE ENTERPRISE FUND.

THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT SERVICE FUND THAT WE DEDICATE A PERCENT OF OUR TAX RATE TO.

SO THE DALLAS WATER UTILITY WILL USE FINANCING TOOLS, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL PAPER OR REVENUE BONDS TO, TO FUND THEIR LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS. THEY WILL PAY THEIR DEBT WITH THE FEES THEY COLLECT.

SAME THING RELATED TO AVIATION OR OTHER ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WHERE WE SPOKE RECENTLY ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION, THE REVENUE DEDICATED TO FUND THAT DEBT. HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX PFC BREMER.

SPECIFIC TO THAT NOT USING PROPERTY TAX. SO ENTERPRISE COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WHEN IT COMES TO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MAJESTIC THEATER, WE'RE SEEING SOME INCREASES.

HAVE WE LOOKED AT OUTSOURCING THAT THROUGH A PRIVATE MANAGEMENT? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. I THINK YOU READ MY MIND.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PLANNED DISCUSSION COMING UP IN THE NEXT WEEK TO TALK ABOUT WAYS TO ENSURE THAT THAT ASSET IS FULLY UTILIZED.

WE CAN CREATE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO INCREASE THE BOOKINGS AS WELL AS OVERALL OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. SO DEFINITELY MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.

I THINK IT'S BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT THE STAFF PRESENTED, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE NEED TO INCREASE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS SO WE CAN TRULY TAKE CARE OF THE OVERALL NEEDS OF THE CITY. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND WE'LL REPORT BACK ON THAT SOON. THANK YOU.

WHEN IT COMES TO SALES TAX, I'M SURPRISED TO SEE ONLY A 4.7 INCREASE IN 2026 WITH THE ANTICIPATED WORLD CUP GAMES COMING TO THE REGION. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE MEETING TO TRY TO GET BETTER PROJECTIONS.

WHEN WOULD WE EXPECT SOMETHING? SO THE FIFA FORECAST WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET ON AUGUST 12TH.

AND WE ARE WE PLAN TO SHOW THAT SEPARATELY FROM OUR OUR ONGOING FORECAST.

WE WILL ALLOCATE THAT REVENUE IN A SEPARATE FUND SO THAT WE CAN SHOW THE BUMP IN SALES TAX AND THE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH FIFA TOGETHER.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO PROJECTED EXPENSES THAT WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO RECOVER.

IS THERE EXPENSES THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, OR IS THERE EXPENSES THAT ARE OPEN TO DISCUSSION WHETHER OR WE FUND THEM OR NOT.

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AND SO THESE ARE EXPENSES THAT WE WILL INCUR IN ORDER TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE.

SO AGAIN, THERE ARE PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENSES. POLICE, FIRE.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF COMPONENT OF THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT IT'S TRULY IN RESPONSE TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR VISITORS ARE SAFE AS WELL AS OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. GRACEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. ITEM EIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I REALLY WANTED TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE LIVING WAGE AND JUST ENSURING THAT WE REALLY STICK TO THE MITT'S CALCULATION ONE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LEADING BY EXAMPLE FOR THAT. BUT ALSO, THIS IS A WAY THAT WE CAN ALSO ATTRACT AND RETAIN QUALITY EMPLOYEES AS WELL, TO MAKE THEM LEAVE THOSE OTHER AREAS AND WANT TO COME AND WORK FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THAT. AND THEN JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE METRICS.

I KNOW WE SAID THEY WOULD HAVE ONE SINGLE METRICS THAT WOULD ROLL UP TO THAT WOULD KIND OF BE THE OVERALL REPORTING FOR EACH SAFE.

I FORGET WHAT THOSE WHAT THE TERMS, THE PILLARS, THE PILLARS.

YES. WILL THAT BE A SEPARATE A SINGLE SEPARATE PERFORMANCE MEASURE OR WILL IT BE A RESULT OF CERTAIN ONES ROLLING UP TO CREATE THAT? I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY ON THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AND I'LL LET BRITTA GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL, BUT THE FOCUS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THESE LAST FEW MONTHS AND WORKING WITH THE THE EXECUTIVE AND THE SENIOR TEAM IS TO REALLY GET TO THOSE OVERARCHING METRICS THAT RESIDENTS CAN LOOK AND SEE THAT TRULY REFLECT THEIR NEEDS AND HOW WE'RE PERFORMING AROUND DELIVERING SERVICES THAT MEET THOSE NEEDS WITHOUT HAVING TO IDENTIFY 100 DIFFERENT ONES THAT THEY'VE GOT TO GO AND REVIEW. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT'S PROBABLY INSANE. AND SO AS WE WORKED AND WE LOOKED AT THE VARIOUS PILLARS, WHAT WE DETERMINED IS THAT THERE ARE OVERARCHING METRICS THAT CAN TRULY TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE SAFE.

CITY. RIGHT. THERE'S A METRICS THAT CAN TELL YOU IF WE'RE TRULY FINANCIALLY SOUND.

SO THAT OVERALL METRIC IS REALLY COMBINING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, PROGRAMS, DEPARTMENTS THAT FALL UNDER THAT PILLAR.

BUT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO THEN CLICK ON THAT PARTICULAR METRIC, AND THEN IT WOULD THEN DO THE CASCADE, AND IT WOULD SHOW YOU ALL OF THE OTHER METRICS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT PILLAR THAT REALLY HELP YOU GET TO THAT OVERALL.

SO IT'S BEEN A TRUE CHANGE IN HOW WE'VE LOOKED AT PERFORMANCE METRICS IN THE PAST, BUT IT WILL REALLY GIVE US THAT KIND OF FRONT DOOR TO HOW WELL THE CITY IS PERFORMING AGAINST THOSE PRIORITIES.

AND SO I'LL LET BRITTA DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT DEEPER, BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN ON THE FRONT LINE OF WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS TO GET US TO THIS POINT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. DOCTOR BIRD CHECK.

DATA ANALYTICS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY FOR THE QUESTION.

CITY MANAGER TOLBERT DID AN EXCELLENT JOB ANSWERING.

SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE THE SAFE SCORE, THAT IT'S NOT REAL.

THAT IS MOCKED UP DATA. THAT WOULD BE A COMPILATION OF THE SCORES FROM THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD THAT CLARITY ON.

THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. YES. OKAY, PERFECT. AND THEN THE LAST ONE.

I THANK YOU FOR THIS SO MUCH, I APPRECIATE YOU.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE ON THE FEE STUDY. I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN MY MEMORY, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF MEETINGS, BUT ON THAT FEE STUDY, DO WE KNOW OR DO YOU DO WE ANTICIPATE KIND OF BASED ON THIS THOSE.

I THINK THERE'S 5 OR 6 DEPARTMENTS. DO WE ANTICIPATE DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT ANTICIPATED REVENUE? WOULD POTENTIALLY BE AS A RESULT? OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT FULL COST RECOVERY? THE ANTICIPATED REVENUE IS 1.8 MILLION. AND IS THIS.

ARE YOU ASKING US TO MAKE A DECISION AT THIS POINT TO GO FROM FULL COST RECOVERY OR NOT? OR THIS IS JUST INFORMATION THAT SAYS, OKAY, WE WE CERTAINLY WELCOME THE FEEDBACK.

YOU SEE THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE APPENDIX.

IF THERE'S A FEE THAT IS CONCERNING TO YOU THEN WE WOULD WELCOME THAT FEEDBACK SO THAT WE'LL KNOW HOW TO SHIFT.

PERFECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR.. COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR.

FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR. ON PAGE 14.

FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU TALK ABOUT TO STAY WITHIN THIS 3.5 LIMIT, WE MUST LOWER OUR PROPERTY TAX. I KNOW YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A REDUCTION IN THE CITY'S PROPERTY TAX.

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SO THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, WELCOME TO OUR COUNCIL.

AND FIRST QUESTIONS HERE. SO IN ITS SIMPLEST FORM, AS VALUES GO UP, THE RATE MAY HAVE TO COME DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY ABLE TO GENERATE 3.5% MORE REVENUE ON REAPPRAISED VALUE THAN WE DID IN THE PRIOR YEAR.

SO IF VALUES AS A RESULT OF THE FOR CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT IN DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT COLLINS CENTRAL.

ET CETERA. IF BASED UPON THEIR APPRAISED VALUES, IF YOU MULTIPLY THAT TIMES THE CURRENT TAX RATE FOR THE GENERAL FUND, IF YOU'RE GOING UP BY MORE THAN 3.5%, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOWER THE TAX RATE.

NOW IT'S WE PUT HERE MUST AND UNDERLINE THAT IT'S REALLY STILL UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

STATE LAW ALLOWS YOU TO INCREASE AND GO ABOVE THAT.

IT REQUIRES A VOTER APPROVAL. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS IMMEDIATELY IN AUGUST TO CALL AN ELECTION, TO HAVE A NOVEMBER ELECTION OF THE RESIDENTS TO GO ABOVE THAT, THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT.

BUT THAT'S NEVER BEEN THE DESIRE OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THOUGH.

SO JUST TO CONTINUE ON THAT. SO IF WE KEEP SAYING THAT WE HAVE A PENSION ISSUE THAT WE MUST CONCERN, THAT WE MUST MEET AND THAT WE ARE WE ARE PROVIDING A GREAT AMOUNT OF OUR PROPERTY TAX TO. SAFETY. WHEN DO I. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU TO ANSWER OR FOR THIS BODY TO ANSWER.

WHEN DO WE LOOK AT. NOT. NOT STAYING AT THAT 3.5%.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAY IT IS THE BODY'S DECISION.

IT'S NOT MY DECISION ON DOING THAT. IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO DECIDE WELL, ONE STEP BACK, WE, THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE A PLAN THAT MEETS THE PENSION REVIEW BOARD REQUIREMENT TO FULLY FUND THE PENSION IN 30 YEARS.

THAT HAPPENED SEPTEMBER THE 11TH OF LAST YEAR.

SO WE HAVE A PLAN THAT FULLY FUNDS THE PENSION.

BUT IF THE BODY WERE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT A PLAN THAT PAYS IT FASTER OR WE HAVE A PLAN, AS MISS TOLBERT MENTIONED EARLIER, ABOUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO INCREASE POLICE OFFICER HIRING OVER A STAGED PERIOD OF TIME.

IF THE THE BODY WANTED TO DO THAT FASTER, AND YOU WERE TO COLLECTIVELY MAKE THE DECISION THAT YOU WERE WILLING TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND ASK FOR A HIGHER TAX RATE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, THEN YES, THAT IS THE DECISION, A POLICY DECISION FOR THE COUNCIL TO CALL AN ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER.

I BELIEVE I THINK IT'S LIKE 73 DAYS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION DATE.

SO YOU HAVE TO YOU WOULD HAVE TO CALL AN ELECTION BY THE SECOND WEEK OF AUGUST TO DO THAT.

SO YOU REALLY NEED TO BE QUEUED UP AND READY TO DO THAT TO GET EVERYTHING PREPARED.

IT CAN'T BE SOMETHING THAT'S COMING OUT OF THIS SUMMER.

IT REALLY NEEDS, IN MY OPINION, WOULD REALLY NEED MORE WORK TO KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE DIRECTION THE BODY WANTED TO GO.

EXACTLY. AND IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, JACK, FOR EXPLAINING THAT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, TO DEVELOP A BUDGET THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN WHERE WE HAVE BEEN IN STAYING WITHIN THAT 3.5% CAP. WE WOULD HAVE TO KNOW THAT GOING INTO THE PROCESS, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU WOULD COME BACK THAT FIRST. IT'S ACTUALLY A BRIEFING AGENDA IN AUGUST, AND WE WOULD ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE TO HAVE THAT PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.

SO THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING THAT IF THIS IS WHAT THE BODY WOULD DESIRE, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT DIRECTION.

NO LATER THAN NEXT WEEK. SO JEANETTE SHARED WITH ME THE DATE.

SO AUGUST THE 12TH OF THIS YEAR, WE'RE PRESENTING THE BUDGET TO YOU.

AUGUST THE 18TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR CALLING A NOVEMBER ELECTION THIS YEAR.

JUST SO THAT THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING UNDERSTANDS.

I'M NOT PROPOSING THAT WE INCREASE THE BUDGET.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHY WE KEEP REDUCING AND WHEN AND HOW TO STAY AT THAT 3%.

THAT 3.5%. OKAY. SO NOW CHANGING TOPICS. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CONTRACT VERSUS EMPLOYEE SALARY. DO WE HAVE ANY DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS IF WE ARE, IF WE WERE TO

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IF IT IS. WOOD WHY DO WE HAVE CONTRACTORS VERSUS EMPLOYEES.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. AND I'LL JUST START IT VERY GENERALLY. AND THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY GET SOME MORE INFORMATION TO YOU THAT PROBABLY IS NOT IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL THE THE OPERATIONS OF OUR DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN POSITIONS WHERE WE IDENTIFY A SKILL SET THAT WE NEED WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT. OFTENTIMES WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIRD PARTY EXTERNAL CONSULTANTS, IT'S REALLY TO PERFORM A SERVICE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SKILL SET WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION TO DO. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS OF OUR PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, IT'S REALLY FORCING US. AND I THINK QUITE INTENTIONALLY TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM AND SERVICE AND HOW BEST TO DELIVER IT AND WHETHER IT'S THROUGH EXISTING STAFF, OR IS IT THROUGH A MODEL THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO TO LEVERAGE OUTSIDE SUPPORT, INCREASED STAFF AUGMENTATION? I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THAT THAT MIGHT LOOK DIFFERENT FROM EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR SANITATION SERVICES. WE KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN ONGOING CHALLENGES AND RETAINING CERTAIN SKILL SETS IN THE LABORING GROUPS. AND SO IT HAS BEEN TO OUR ADVANTAGE TO THEN UTILIZE THE THIRD PARTY TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY LABOR TO HELP US BE ABLE TO PERFORM THAT SERVICE. AND THEN WE LOOK AT THEN WHAT THE COST WOULD BE IF WE WERE TO DO IT IN-HOUSE.

SO I THINK IT'S PART OF OUR OVERALL PROCESS OF HOW WE DEVELOP THE BUDGET, HOW WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING FROM DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT.

THAT IS PART OF THE EQUATION. IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR JOB OR TYPE OF POSITION, WE COULD PROBABLY SHOW THE DIFFERENCES.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT'S A PART OF THE EVALUATION AND HOW WE LOOK AT HOW BEST TO PROVIDE SERVICES ACROSS THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE TEAM HAS IN FRONT OF THEM TODAY, LIKE A TOTAL COST OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS SERVICE BEING PROVIDED BY STAFF VERSUS AN OUTSIDE OR THIRD PARTY AT THIS MOMENT, IS IT POSSIBLE TO START LOOKING AT THE OR LOOKING AT THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE LONG TERM CONTRACTORS AND WHY WE HAVE THOSE LONG TERM CONTRACTORS, AND WHY IS IT THAT WE'RE DEFICIENT IN THE SKILL SET TO HIRE SOMEONE WHO WILL REPLACE A CONTRACTOR, ESPECIALLY IF THE COST OF A CONTRACTOR IS HIGHER THAN THE COST OF THE THE EMPLOYEE? ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK, AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE THE OVERALL REVIEW AND HOW WE APPROACH LOOKING AT HOW MANY POSITIONS WE NEED, WHAT TYPE OF POSITIONS THAT WE NEED AND WHETHER OR NOT IF IT'S A, IT'S A IF IT'S A BETTER USE OF OUR DOLLARS TO, TO INVEST IN EXTERNAL SUPPORT VERSUS HAVING THAT SUPPORT INTERNALLY.

AND SO THAT IS PART OF WHAT FROM AN ACCOUNTABILITY STANDPOINT AND HOW WE APPROACH STAFFING.

IT'S A PART OF HOW WE LOOK AT THE STAFFING MODEL.

I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE STARTED TO LOOK AT EVEN DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR IS IT'S NOT ABOUT HAVING A CERTAIN NUMBER OR QUANTITY OF POSITIONS, BUT WHAT IS THE QUALITY OF THE POSITION. SO ALL OF THAT IS PART OF THE THE EVALUATIVE PROCESS THAT WE'RE EVEN DOING NOW WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OFTENTIMES TO HAVE A SERVICE THAT MAY NOT NEED TO BE PERFORMED LONG TERM.

SO THEREFORE IT'S A BETTER USE OF OUR DOLLARS TO HAVE OUTSIDE SUPPORT VERSUS HAVING INTERNAL STAFF DOING THAT WORK.

AND IT MAY ONLY BE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

SO ALL OF THAT IS A PART OF THE THE OVERALL, I WOULD SAY, ANALYSIS OF THE WAY WE'RE APPROACHING EVEN THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING PROCESS THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

OKAY. OKAY. WE I THINK WE WE'VE KIND OF TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE THE MINUTE LIVING WAGE VERSUS MINIMUM WAGE. I BELIEVE THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE EXPRESSED MY SENTIMENTS ABOUT MAKING SURE WE ARE PROVIDING A WONDERFUL LIVING WAGE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. BUT CAN I ON PAGE 73 AND 70.

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IT SHOWS THAT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT IS AT AT A 10%, I GUESS, NEGATIVE CHANGE.

AND THEN THE OFFICE ON PAGE 75, THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL IS AT 100%.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT THAT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT HAS REDUCED THEIR THEIR EXPENSES OR BY 10%, AND THE OFFICE OF THE INTERNAL GENERAL HAS REDUCED THEIR EXPENSES BY 100%.

SO THE DIFFERENCE FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTS ONE TIME COST THAT WAS FACTORED INTO THEIR BUDGET BETWEEN FISCAL YEAR 25 AND 26.

THE CHANGE FOR THE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.

THIS WAS A NEW OFFICE THAT WAS A CHARTER AMENDMENT.

AND SO IN DECEMBER OF 2024, COUNCIL AMENDED THE BUDGET TO ADD THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL.

AND THEN WE ARE SHOWING IT AS A NEW DEPARTMENT, EFFECTIVE DUE TO THE CHARTER AMENDMENT.

SO OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. SO DOES THAT MEAN IT? WHERE DOES THE IF WE'RE NOT GETTING RID OF THE DEPARTMENT, WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO SINCE WE'RE NO LONGER HERE? WHERE WHERE IS IT. SO WE'RE NOT GETTING RID OF THE DEPARTMENT.

IT WASN'T PART OF THE PLAN BUDGET. SO THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL FUNCTIONS WERE PART OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND SO AFTER THE CHARTER AMENDMENT, WE CREATED A NEW DEPARTMENT.

SO LAST YEAR IT WAS NOT A NEW DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE THE PLAN NUMBER.

HOWEVER, WHEN WE PRESENT THE BUDGET TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST THE 12TH, YOU WILL SEE A BUDGET FOR THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL.

AND THEN WHY THE 10% REDUCTION IN PLANNING? AND IT'S ONE TIME COST.

AND WE CAN PROVIDE A LIST OF OF WHAT THAT CHANGE WAS.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE CHANGES IN DEPARTMENTS FROM YEAR TO YEAR RELATED TO ONE TIME COST.

AND SO IF IT WAS A ONE TIME EXPENSE THERE WAS A PURCHASE, SOME PURCHASES OF SOME NEW COMPUTERS THEN THE NEXT YEAR WE DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE. SO YOU'LL SEE THE BUDGET POTENTIALLY GO DOWN THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

SO WE, WE GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE PULL THOSE THINGS OUT.

SO WE DON'T ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT TO BUY THOSE THINGS EVERY YEAR.

WE TRY TO CAPTURE THAT. AND SO YOU'LL SEE SOME REDUCTIONS.

BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU I THINK YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT CHANGED. AND SO WE'LL GIVE YOU THAT DETAIL FOR THAT PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS.

BEFORE I MOVED AROUND TO COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK? I'M GOING TO RESERVE MY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OVER BEFORE THE JULY BREAK.

THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO ROUND TWO WITH COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

THANK YOU. JACK, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXPECTED BUDGET THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO US, WILL YOU ALSO EXPECT THAT THE HOMEOWNERS WILL SEE A BILL THAT WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE, EVEN IF WE CALL IT A HISTORIC RATE DECREASE? SO EVERYONE'S INDIVIDUAL TAX BILL WILL BE DIFFERENT DEPENDING UPON WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL VALUES.

AND SO AS YOU KNOW FROM PRIOR YEARS, A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE, EVEN THOUGH WHEN WE LOOK AT THE THE MEDIAN PRICE VALUE OF A HOME, FOR EXAMPLE, IT MAY HAVE GONE UP TO THE POINT THAT IT MITIGATES ANY REDUCTION IN TAX RATE REDUCTION.

SO I JUST NEED TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THAT ACTUAL CALCULATION IS GOING TO BE.

BUT IT'S VERY POSSIBLE THAT THE ACTUAL TAX BILL GOES UP EVEN THOUGH THE TAX RATE GOES DOWN.

IT DEPENDS UPON YOUR INDIVIDUAL VALUES. AND IN DOING YOUR FORECAST FOR THAT MEDIAN HOME VALUE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING? SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE ANALYSIS REGARDING THE MEDIAN HOME VALUES YET.

WE USUALLY BASE THAT OFF OF THE CERTIFIED VALUES THAT WE GET ON JULY 25TH.

OKAY. CITY MANAGER, THERE'S IT PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON OUR LIST ON THE TECHNOLOGY ACCOUNTABILITY REPORT FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, THAT WOULD INCREASE EFFICIENCY AND DEPARTMENTS.

AND I'M WONDERING WHAT WE'RE DOING IN OUR BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE FUNDED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE LASTING LOWER COSTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN MIDDLETON. AND WE DEFINITELY ARE LOOKING AT THE, THE THE TECHNOLOGY PROJECTS THAT ACTUALLY WILL CREATE THOSE EFFICIENCIES AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THE RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THOSE NEW SYSTEMS. SOME OF IT COULD BE AT THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL, SOME OF IT MIGHT REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE.

BUT WHAT WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND SHOW THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS,

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AND IT COULD BE THROUGH A PLATFORM OR DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY THROUGH AN APP.

I KNOW THAT THE IT'S TEAM THAT THEY'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY THROUGH OUR GOVERNANCE PROGRAM THAT OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, DENZEL GIBSON, IS OVERSEEING, BUT WE TRULY ARE TRYING TO GET THOSE ON TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENTS IMPLEMENTED.

A LOT OF THEM WILL HELP US STREAMLINE A LOT OF OUR SERVICES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING, AND YOU SHOULD SEE THOSE MOVING THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES.

SOMETIMES IT COULD BE DUE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MARKET ON WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET THOSE IN AND GET THEM IMPLEMENTED SOONER THAN LATER.

BUT DEFINITELY, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO OPTIMIZE SERVICES BY HAVING THE RIGHT TECHNOLOGY IN PLACE.

SO YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WELL, THIS IS WHERE I'M VERY OPEN TO HAVING CONTRACTORS COME IN AND GET THOSE PROJECTS DONE.

MENDELSOHN I DON'T THINK YOU'RE READY. I'M SORRY.

SAY IT AGAIN. OKAY, SORRY. I'LL TALK RIGHT INTO IT.

SO I DO THINK WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO STAFFING WISE, INCLUDING GETTING CONSULTANTS, BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT I KNOW MY STAFF HAS TO ANSWER FOR RESIDENTS THAT REALLY SHOULD JUST BE ON A WEBSITE.

SO I'D APPRECIATE IT. JACK, IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT YOU PULLED UP ABOUT GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT PER CAPITA.

ONE ARE YOU ABLE TO PULL THAT BACK UP? SO IT'S A LITTLE SLOW.

IT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT IT'LL BE RIGHT UP.

SO TELL US HOW THAT SLIDE CHANGES WHEN YOU DON'T JUST INCLUDE GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT, BUT YOU ALSO INCLUDE PENSION DEBT.

MOST OF THESE CITIES DON'T HAVE SIGNIFICANT PENSION DEBT LIKE WE DO.

SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

THIS DOES INCLUDE FOR DALLAS, THE PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS THAT WE ISSUED FOR THE EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT FUND I BELIEVE IN 2005.

THIS DOES NOT ASSUME ANY LIABILITY FOR PENSION, THAT WE HAVE A PLAN TO PAY OUT OF THE OPERATING BUDGET, NOT OUT OF DEBT, BUT OUT OF OPERATING BUDGET OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS.

NOR DOES IT INCLUDE ANY OTHER CITY'S PLAN TO PAY THEIR PENSION OVER TIME AS WELL.

SO I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT. I WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME OTHER TYPE OF ANALYSIS TO GIVE YOU SOME KIND OF ANSWER THAT I DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WELL, I THINK IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL AND EDUCATIONAL FOR US.

I KNOW TRUTH IN LENDING AND TEXAS PUBLIC POLICY FOUNDATION AND MANY OTHER GROUPS ARE TRACKING TOTAL DEBT LIKE THAT.

SOME INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, REVENUE BONDS, SOME DON'T.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT JUST LOOKING AT THAT, LOOKING AT GOVERNMENT, AT OUR GEO BONDS ACTUALLY, OR GEO DEBT ACTUALLY TELLS THE WHOLE PICTURE OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO I HAVE READ SOME OF THE STUDIES THAT DID A COMPARISON, AND IT WAS PERHAPS A COST PER HOUSEHOLD OR SOMETHING.

AND IT INCLUDED REVENUE BONDS OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WHICH ARE NOT PAID NECESSARILY BY JUST OUR RESIDENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, DALLAS WATER UTILITY ALSO HAS WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS IN OTHER CITIES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE PAYMENT OF THEIR DEBT.

OR THE DEBT OF THE AVIATION DEPARTMENT SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE CONSIDERED AS A DEBT JUST OF OUR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE IT'S PAID FOR BY THE AIRLINES AND THE TRAVELING COMMUNITY THAT COME THROUGH LOVE FIELD AIRPORT AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE DEBT OF THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS, BECAUSE IT'S PAID THROUGH HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

AND EVEN OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT IS PAID PARTIALLY THROUGH THE TAX RATE THAT'S APPLIED AND TAXES COLLECTED FROM OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS. SO IT GETS PRETTY COMPLICATED WHEN IT'S LOOKED AT BUT SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT STUDIES, I FEEL LIKE DON'T SHOW THE FULL PICTURE. AND SO IT DEFINITELY WOULD REQUIRE MORE ANALYSIS TO GIVE A VERY THOUGHTFUL ANSWER.

LANCER. WELL, I WOULD SPECIFICALLY LIKE TO SEE IT WITH A PENSION DEBT IN THERE.

I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT REVENUE BONDS THAT IT'S SORT OF A DIFFERENT THING FOR THE BUDGET THAT YOU SHARE WITH US.

I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME GOOD QUESTIONS, AND THEY COME UP EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

AND SO MAYBE YOU COULD INCLUDE THIS ABOUT THE POLICE AND FIRE ATTRITION.

TO ALSO HAVE THE GOAL OF HOW MANY TO HIRE, WHAT OUR EXPECTED ATTRITION IS AND THEN WHAT WE EXPECT THE NET INCREASE OR DECREASE TO BE.

THANK YOU. THE MIT LIVING WAGE INPUT VERSUS MARKET WAGE.

I DON'T REALLY EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY WE AREN'T DOING MARKET WAGE.

I THINK THAT'S AMERICA. WE PAY MARKET RATE, AND PERHAPS OUR CONTRACTORS SHOULD ALSO BE PAYING MARKET RATE,

[03:20:07]

AND THAT'S HOW THE FREE MARKET WORKS. THOSE ARE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK INTO SOMETHING OUR RESIDENTS ARE TELLING US IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

AND IN LAST YEAR'S SURVEY, THE SURVEY BEFORE THAT AND THE ONE WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE PRESENTED AND THAT IS AROUND OUR STREET AND INFRASTRUCTURE MAINTENANCE.

AND AS I LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL GRAPH ON PAGE 49, IF I'M LOOKING AT THAT PERCENTAGE ON STREETS AND TRANSPORTATION, I MEAN, THIS THIS GRAPH, THIS PIE REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE CAPITAL BUDGET, RIGHT? IT INCLUDES ENTERPRISE AS WELL. BUT WE CAN'T TOUCH ENTERPRISE FOR STREET AND TRANSPORTATION.

SO WHEN WE'RE SAYING THIS IS 12.3% OF THAT OVERALL NUMBER, THERE'S A CHUNK OF THAT THAT WE CAN'T EVEN TOUCH FOR THIS.

SO IT'S BY THIS PERCENTAGE IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING BACKWARD.

AND WE'VE BEEN HOLDING THE NUMBER FLAT IN PREVIOUS YEARS, AND I REALLY HAVE NOT LOVED THE EXPLANATION THAT, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BOND PROGRAM COMING AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP GET AT THIS. AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WE JUST PASSED THE BOND. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO HELP GET IT. THIS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT TO BE COMING AT THIS FROM, YOU KNOW, TWO DIRECTIONS.

SO YOU KNOW WE'VE GOT THE BOND. WE AGREED ON THAT.

BUT THEN THIS THIS GENERAL FUND SIDE IS IS CONCERNING ME WHEN I SEE THIS REPRESENTATION AND WHERE WE MAY GO.

SO I JUST WANT TO HEAR THAT WE ARE ANSWERING THE CALL THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE, YET AGAIN, IN HIS MOST RECENT SURVEY, TOLD US IS THEIR NUMBER ONE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT. AND SO I'LL GO BACK TO THE WHOLE PURPOSE AGAIN OF THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S TRULY GOING TO ALLOW FOR US TO ALIGN OUR RESOURCES WITH THOSE PRIORITIES.

AND SO IT TRULY WILL CREATE THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE WE'RE SHOWING FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE HOW THE DOLLARS AND HOW WE'RE INVESTING THOSE DOLLARS ARE TRULY MEETING THOSE NEEDS.

AND SO AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK LAST YEAR THAT WE LEARNED WAS THAT IN PRIOR YEARS, WE REALLY DID RELY ON HOW THE BOND DOLLARS WERE GOING TO FLOW.

AND THEN WE JUST KIND OF LOOKED AT THE DELTA WITH THE GENERAL FUND.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE RESIDENTS AND FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, IS WE NEED TO START WITH HOW WE HANDLE WHAT WE CAN THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND, AND THEN THE BOND PROGRAM BECOMES MAYBE HOW WE ENHANCE OR HOW WE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR STREET MAINTENANCE.

AND SO AS WE GO INTO THESE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE DEFINITELY HAVE THAT AT THE TOP OF OUR LIST.

WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, BECAUSE THEN IT ALSO BOILS DOWN TO HOW MUCH WE CAN DELIVER IN ANY PARTICULAR YEAR.

WE COULD, WE COULD, WE COULD GIVE HIM $10 MILLION, AND HE COULD ONLY GET 5 MILLION OUT THE DOOR.

SO WE HAVE TO FACTOR ALL OF THAT IN TO WHAT WE THEN INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DELIVER BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW FROM A CAPACITY STANDPOINT.

AND THAT COULD BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT IF WE NEED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT OUTSIDE THE ORGANIZATION, WE WOULD BE WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE CHAMPION THAT IF IT'S GOING TO HELP US MEET OUR GOALS AND TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS OF THE CITY.

WELL, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE. AND THIS ALSO IS A WORKFORCE ISSUE BECAUSE THIS ISN'T GOING AWAY. WE'VE GOT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN NEED IN THIS CATEGORY. AND OUR RESIDENTS HAVE SAID, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF THOROUGHFARES AND MAJOR STREETS.

NUMBER TWO, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF STREETS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BIG ROADS I DRIVE ON TO GET TO WORK OR SCHOOL OR THE GROCERY STORE.

AND THEN WHEN I COME BACK HOME TO MY STREET, I WANT THAT TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION, TOO.

SO THEY TELL US OVER AND OVER, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR FACILITIES AND THAT THIS NEW APPROACH ON WE NEED TO DEDICATE MORE DOLLARS TO THIS.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SAME KIND OF APPROACH WHERE WE DON'T JUST, YOU KNOW.

HAVE OUR ALLOCATION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE LIVE WITH.

AND WE HOPE FOR A GOOD BOND PROGRAM AND ALL OF THAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO BRING IN THIS SAME KIND OF MENTALITY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT MOST.

SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO EXPLORE THAT. AND THEN I'M ALSO LOOKING AT ON PAGE 39 AND THEN BACK TO THAT, THAT PIE OF OUR STORMWATER ISSUES, BECAUSE WE AREN'T THE ONLY ONES GROWING.

AND EVERYONE NORTH OF US, ALL THEIR WATER FLOWS DOWN.

WE'VE GOT ALL THESE PERVIOUS SURFACES NOW THAT SEND WATER OUR WAY INTO OUR CREEKS.

WE'VE GOT EROSION YOU KNOW, AS IT GETS TO A RIVER OR A BODY OF WATER.

AND SO I'M JUST CONCERNED WHEN I SEE THIS 113 MILLION IN STORMWATER THAT IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S ENOUGH.

WE JUST DID A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S IDENTIFIED 31 AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

[03:25:06]

YES. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THOSE HOUSES ARE FLOODING.

OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON ROUND TWOS FOR EVERYONE I SEE IN THE QUEUE.

SO MR. BAZALDUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SIR. ON SLIDE 31. I'M JUST. I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT MISS STEWART WAS ASKING. ABOUT THE INCREASE IN IN OFFICERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.

PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN. WE INCREASED THIS TO A 300.

AND I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE REASONING OF FISCAL YEAR AS A FISCAL YEAR.

WE HAD OUR BRIEFING. WHAT LED TO US EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AND PASSING THE RESOLUTION TO INCREASE THE GOAL WITH NUMBERS THAT DID NOT REFLECT US GOING OVER OUR HIRING GOALS IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR.

IF WE DIDN'T GO OVER OUR HIRING GOALS IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO MAKE THIS MAKE SENSE TO ME.

SO THE SHORT ANSWER WE ENDED FISCAL YEAR 24 WITH MORE OFFICERS THAN WE PLANNED.

BUT I'LL HAVE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ELABORATE ON THEIR HIRING EFFORTS.

HELLO. MARTIN ROJAS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, OVER THE FINANCIAL BUREAU.

SO WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER WAS LAST YEAR, IT WAS ABOUT THE THIRD QUARTER WHEN WE STARTED SUBMITTING OUR BUDGET REQUEST FOR THIS YEAR. AND SO WHEN WE WERE MAKING ALL OF OUR REQUESTS FOR THIS YEAR, IT WAS ABOUT THE THIRD QUARTER.

AND AT THAT TIME, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD, THAT OF ALL THE HORRORS THAT OCCURRED UP TO THAT POINT WE MADE, WE SUBMITTED OUR BUDGET REQUEST IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF LAST YEAR.

THE HIRING PICKED UP DRAMATICALLY, AND WE ENDED UP WE ENDED UP WITH MORE OFFICERS THAN WHAT WE WERE THINKING WE WERE GOING TO END UP WITH.

SO THIS YEAR IN OUR BUDGET, WHAT WE ASKED FOR AND THE AMOUNT OF SALARY THAT WE WERE THINKING WE WOULD NEED WAS SHORT.

AND SO WE NEEDED. WE NEED MORE MONEY THIS YEAR TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS, PLUS THE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS THAT WERE HIRING THIS YEAR.

EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS WASN'T ARTICULATED TO THE COUNCIL AT ALL IN MULTIPLE BRIEFINGS TO HAVE THIS EXACT DISCUSSION.

WE DISCUSSED WHERE THE GOALS WERE IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR.

WE DISCUSSED WHERE WE WERE WITH ATTRITION. WE DISCUSSED OUR RETENTION GOALS.

WE WE NEVER WERE TOLD THIS. IN FACT, WE DO MIDYEAR ADJUSTMENTS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY FORTHCOMING ON OUR COMMITMENT TO INCREASING WHEN IT WAS NEEDED. NOT ONCE DID WE. WE WERE WHERE WE TOLD THAT IT WAS INCREASING.

NO, SIR, THAT'S NOT TRUE. ACTUALLY, IN FEBRUARY OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE DID BRIEF THE COUNCIL.

WE GAVE AN OVERTIME BRIEFING, AND WE LAID THIS OUT VERY SPECIFICALLY.

SO. SO IF I COULD JUST MAKE SURE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ANSWERING THE RIGHT QUESTION. SO WHEN WE PLANNED WHEN WE WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT WE, THAT COUNCIL APPROVED IN THE FY 2425 BUDGET WAS FOR 250.

THAT WAS THE NUMBER. AND WHEN AND WE DID NOT HIT IT AND SO WOULD WOULD IS THAT ACCURATE? WE DID NOT HIT THAT GOAL. I'LL HAVE TO HAVE THE STAFF TO SHOW THE TWO.

I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY BECAUSE THE YEAR IS STILL SO WE'RE NOT OUT OF THE FISCAL YEAR RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN 2425 AND IN THE BUDGET FOR 2425.

THE HIRING GOAL WAS 250. SO AS OF TODAY CORRECT.

HAVE WE GOTTEN TO THE 250? 23. 24. IS WHAT'S BEING REFERENCED AS THE END OF THAT QUARTER? WE DID NOT HIT OUR HIRING GOAL THAT WE PUT INTO THE BUDGET, WHICH WAS 250 THAT YEAR.

WHAT WAS THE HIRING GOAL FOR 2324 FOR 24? THE HIRING GOAL WAS 250.

WE ENDED UP HIRING 253. AND SO EARLIER THIS YEAR, WHEN I THINK THE CONVERSATION HAPPENED AROUND THE HORSESHOE, IT WAS BECAUSE OF WHERE WE WERE TRACKING AND HOW WELL WE WERE DOING.

WE FELT THAT WE COULD GET THAT. 250. I THINK IT WAS UP TO WAS IT 300? MARTIN. I'M SORRY. SO FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, BASED ON HOW WE WERE TRACKING THAT, WE FELT COMFORTABLE THAT WE COULD GET IT TO 300.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT. AND AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WE THINK WE MIGHT EVEN BE IN EXCESS OF 300.

WE THE NUMBERS WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW MIGHT, MIGHT BE AS MUCH AS 320.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE HIRING IN A GOOD AT A GOOD AT A GOOD PACE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S MY POINT. I THINK THAT WE'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE SUPPORT GOING ABOVE WHAT WE HAVE SET,

[03:30:07]

SO MAKING DECISIONS THAT CONTRADICT POLICY DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN VOTED ON AND MADE HERE, I'M I'M CONFUSED ON WHERE WE HAVE COME TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE WE'RE BEING TOLD BY STAFF THAT YOU HAVE DONE THINGS THAT CONTRADICT WHAT THIS BODY HAS PASSED AS POLICY. SO I'D LIKE TO BACK UP FOR JUST A SECOND.

AND BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. SO WHEN WE PLAN OUT A BUDGET, WE'RE PLANNING OUT THAT BUDGET BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW AT THAT TIME, AND WE'RE PROJECTING WHAT WE BELIEVE COULD HAPPEN AS WE GATHER THROUGH THE MONTHS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO BRING BACK KIND OF HOW WE'RE TRACKING AND THE UPDATES THAT WE'RE SHARING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

I DO KNOW THAT WE DEFINITELY TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WERE TRACKING WITH THE HIRING AT ANY TIME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

IF THIS BODY WANTS US TO CUT OFF AT A CERTAIN TIME, BECAUSE WHAT WE HEARD WAS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A PLAN TO BRING ADDITIONAL OFFICERS IN, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE ALSO HAVE AN ATTRITION CONCERN AS WELL.

AND SO, MADAM CITY MANAGER, I'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THERE'S BEEN A COMMITMENT HERE. I'M NOT ARGUING THAT FACT. CORRECT. THE FACT THAT I'M ARGUING IS THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS STAMPED INTO THE CITY SECRETARY. THERE WAS A VOTE THAT WAS TAKEN AT THIS HORSESHOE. THERE WAS TRANSPARENCY THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND WHAT'S COMING FROM STAFF IS NOT ALIGNED WITH THOSE ACTIONS. AND SO I'M ASKING FOR JUST TRANSPARENCY.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. I'M NOT TRYING TO RELITIGATE THE TOPIC, BECAUSE WE MADE IT VERY CLEAR AS A COUNCIL THAT WE WERE COMMITTED TO GETTING HIRING, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS. IT'S INSANE FOR US TO BE GIVEN INFORMATION THAT GOES AGAINST WHERE WE HAVE GIVEN DIRECTION WITH POLICY. WE PASSED A RESOLUTION JUST MONTHS AGO, AND SO IF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ABLE TO.

GREAT. GOOD FOR YOU ALL. THAT'S INCREDIBLE NEWS.

WHY WERE WE NOT CONSULTED IN ANY WAY AND GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER? SO I'LL GO BACK. THE DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THIS BODY WAS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS THAT WE'RE HIRING, WHAT WE ADD, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH A SPECIFIC NUMBER, CITY MANAGER, WHAT A SPECIFIC NUMBER.

BUT I GUESS BACK TO THE POLICY DECISION. THE POLICY DECISION DID NOT SAY FOR US IF WE'RE ABLE TO RECRUIT MORE, THAT WE SHOULD STOP. SO I GUESS THAT THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE OPEN TO INTERPRETATION OR IT'S NOT WHAT ACTUALLY GETS STAMPED IN IN THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WE PASS.

SO GOALS ARE ARE ASPIRATIONAL, AS YOU KNOW, AND AS WE TALK ABOUT OUR HIRING PLANS AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO THE COUNCIL. WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING UPDATES ON THE HIRING PLAN.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW WELL WE'RE TRACKING AND THAT OUR GRADUATES, THAT OUR GRADUATION NUMBERS ARE GOING UP HIGHER.

SO AT ANY POINT IN TIME, I'VE NOT GIVEN THE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF THAT IF YOU CAN HIRE 20 MORE, THEN DON'T HIRE THEM. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE ALWAYS TRY TO EXCEED GOALS NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.

AND SO TO THE TO THE BETTERMENT IN A POSITIVE WAY, NOT IN A NEGATIVE WAY.

SO I DON'T WANT TO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF INTERPRETATION AND AN ASSUMPTION THAT'S GOING INTO IT.

AND I QUITE FRANKLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS THAT WE TAKE A VOTE ON AN ON A RESOLUTION THAT CONTRADICTS AND SAYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SO I GUESS IT'S AN INTERPRETATION AND YOU ALL HAVE CARTE BLANCHE, BUT WE'RE JUST GIVING YOU A SUGGESTION AS THE POLICY MAKERS.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THE STAFF HAS WORKED EXTREMELY HARD.

COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA TO ENSURE THAT THE WAY WE APPROACH OUR RECRUITMENT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE KNOW HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE THAT WE PUT IN OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD.

IF I GET THAT AND I'M NOT, IF I'M IF MADAM CITY MANAGER, I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE THE TOPIC ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO HIRE MORE OFFICERS.

I THINK I'VE SAID NOW FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES THAT WE CAN. WE ARE COMMITTED AS A COUNCIL TO THAT GOAL.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE IS THAT WE HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC AND THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE HERE AT CITY COUNCIL, BRINGING US SOMETHING THAT IS THAT DIFFERS FROM A DOCUMENT THAT WE ALL TOOK A VOTE ON AND THOUGHT THAT WE WERE INFORMED AND EDUCATED ON IS NOT TRANSPARENCY. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT GOING FORWARD.

WE HAVE A BETTER STREAMLINE OF COMMUNICATION AND PROCESS IF THOSE CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE MADE AFTER WE'VE TAKEN A VOTE HERE.

SO WHAT WE WILL DO AS PART OF THE UPDATES THAT WE DO PROVIDE EVERY SINGLE MONTH AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT WE'RE GIVEN THAT TO THE FULL BODY BECAUSE IT IS DISCUSSED AND WE DO COME IN AND WE GIVE THE UPDATES ON HOW THE HIRING GOALS ARE BEING MET.

AND SO IF WE WE ALWAYS WANT TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND OUR TRANSPARENCY, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO APPEAR AS IF THE STAFF HAS DONE ANYTHING

[03:35:02]

MR. ROTH. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR, I BELIEVE, THREE MINUTES ON ITEM EIGHT.

THANK YOU. IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION HERE IF YOU COULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND A COUPLE OF THINGS.

IS IT APPROPRIATE IN MUNICIPAL BUDGETING TO HAVE ANY KIND OF FUNDED RESERVES OR ESTABLISH A RESERVE POLICY. THAT'S. THAT'S PART OF OUR BUDGET.

YES, SIR. THE CITY DOES HAVE. AGAIN, WE WILL REFERENCE FMC FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE CRITERIA.

AND SO IT'S THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED FINANCIAL POLICIES.

AND WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, FOUR DIFFERENT POLICIES THAT SPEAK TO RESERVE LEVELS.

AND SO WE DO HAVE POLICIES REGARDING A MINIMUM AND A MAXIMUM OF OUR RESERVES.

AND WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT. I CAN SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THOSE ARE OFFLINE IF THAT'S OKAY.

BUT AND THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF ALREADY INCORPORATED IN IN YOUR BUDGET PROJECTIONS ALSO.

YES, SIR. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS ON THE ENTERPRISE REVENUES IS THAT BASICALLY DOES THAT INCLUDE ANY KIND OF REVENUES THAT WE WOULD BE RECEIVING FROM LOVE FIELD OR FROM OUR OWNERSHIP IN THE DFW AIRPORT? OR IS ARE THOSE ARE THOSE FUNDS SEPARATED? YEAH, THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN OUR NUMBERS.

SO LOVE FIELD BEING AN ENTERPRISE FUND. THEY CHARGE OR THEY HAVE REVENUES TO SUPPORT THEIR EXPENSES, INCLUDING ANY DEBT THAT THEY MAY HAVE. THEY ALSO, OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS ARE CHARGED WHAT WE REFER TO AS AN INDIRECT COST.

SO WE DO A STUDY EACH YEAR OF KIND OF THE COSTS THAT ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT BENEFIT THE ENTERPRISE FUND.

SO OUR CITY COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE AND OUR PAYROLL AND OUR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, OUR HUMAN RESOURCE OFFICE, OUR THE BUDGET OFFICE, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OFFICE, THOSE EXPENSES.

WE DO A STUDY AND WE ALLOCATE THE COST THE PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF THE COST TO THE ENTERPRISE FUND SO THAT AVIATION HAS TO PAY FOR PART OF YOUR WATER UTILITY. PAYS FOR PART OF YOU AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE IN THE GENERAL FUND, WE CHARGE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS. WHAT? WE'RE ALLOWED TO FOR THAT PURPOSE AND SORT OF IN A, IN A REVERSE UNDERSTANDING FOR ME, DOES LOVE FIELD AND DFW MAKE MONEY FOR THE CITY? IN OTHER WORDS, IS THERE A BASICALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THE REVENUE GENERATED BY THOSE TWO ENTERPRISES? AND IS THAT ANTICIPATE OR IS THAT INCORPORATED IN ANY OF OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS? SO THEY HAVE TO OPERATE AT COST RECOVERY. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GENERATE PROFIT.

THAT COULD THEN BE SHARED BACK TO THE THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.

SO SO THERE'S NO WAY TO PROJECT INCREASED REVENUES FROM THOSE, THOSE THOSE THOSE ENTITIES NOT NOT TO THE BENEFIT OF THE GENERAL FUND OTHER THAN FOR ACTUAL COST.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE GO THROUGH. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE MOVING COSTS.

THAT'S FROM A DIFFERENT BUCKET TO, TO OFFSET THOSE TO CALCULATE THE ACTUAL COST AND AND CHARGE THEM THEIR SHARE, BUT NOTHING MORE. OKAY. OKAY. WERE YOU FINISHED THERE, MR. ROFF? THAT WAS A VERY PAUL RIDLEY ESQUE MIC DROP.

YOU'RE GOING TO LEARN WHAT THAT IS SOON. THIS WAY YOU JUST TURN OFF THE MIC AND TURN YOUR BACK ON EVERYBODY, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOU'RE FINISHED. OKAY.

SPEAKING OF THE MAN, THE LEGEND HIMSELF. MR. RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

GO FOR IT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. JACK, YOU TESTIFIED WITH RESPECT TO SLIDE 31 OF THE 1977 RESOLUTION BY WHICH THE COUNCIL REQUIRED THAT ANY REVENUE FROM PROPERTY EXCESS PROPERTY SALES BE USED FOR BUILDING MAINTENANCE.

AND YET, YOU WENT ON TO SAY, OBVIOUSLY, THAT HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH.

AND YET YOU SAID THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT TO SPLIT THE PROCEEDS OF PROPERTY SALES WITH THE PENSION FUND TO DECREASE THE LIABILITY. SO IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY GOING INTO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE NOW FROM THIS SOURCE OF REVENUE, WHY WOULD WE REDUCE IT? REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS TO SPLIT IT, BUT ONLY ABOVE CERTAIN THRESHOLDS.

SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE SELL ARE PROPERTIES THAT MAY RESULT IN 100,000, A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND,

[03:40:08]

WHAT WE PROPOSED WAS WHEN THE VALUE THE FIRST $10 MILLION OFF OF ANY INDIVIDUAL TRANSACTION WOULD GO TO MAJOR MAINTENANCE ONCE THE VALUE OF THE TRANSACTION IS BETWEEN 10 MILLION AND $100 MILLION.

WE START SPLITTING A 5050 WITH THE PENSION FUND BECAUSE IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION OUT OF THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE ON PENSION FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO LOOK AT OUR ASSETS AND TO TRY TO USE SOME OF THAT TO TO HELP WITH THE PENSION SYSTEM AGAIN.

BUT WE ONLY DID IT OVER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD. IF WE COME INTO A SITUATION WHERE, WHERE WE SELL SOME OF THOSE HIGHER VALUED PROPERTIES WHICH THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY FAR IN FEW BETWEEN. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA TO HAVE THAT THRESHOLD, BUT THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES THAT WE ARE LIKELY TO DECLARE SURPLUS THAT EXCEED 10 OR $100 MILLION IN VALUE ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.

I DON'T REMEMBER A PROPERTY IN 29 YEARS THAT'S BEEN OVER THE $10 MILLION MARK.

YEAH. OKAY. I DID WANT TO REGISTER MY POSITION ABOUT THE LIVING WAGE ISSUE, AND I SEE NO REASON TO PAY MORE THAN THE MARKET RATE. FOR THIS REASON, WE'RE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO AWARD PROCUREMENT CONTRACTS TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS SO THAT WE DON'T PAY MORE THAN IS NECESSARY TO PROCURE SERVICES IN THE OPEN MARKETPLACE.

AND I THINK THE SAME RULE SHOULD APPLY TO SERVICES THAT WE PROCURE AS WELL AS GOODS.

THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU GAVE JACQUES, I THINK, ILLUSTRATES THE POINT IN SOME CLARITY.

AND THAT IS WHY SHOULD WE PAY LIFEGUARDS AT OUR CITY POOLS MORE THAN A COMPETITIVE MARKET RATE.

THESE PEOPLE ARE HIGH SCHOOL, PART TIME EMPLOYEES, SEASONAL EMPLOYEES THAT DON'T REQUIRE A LIVING WAGE TO FOR US TO BE COMPETITIVE IN HIRING THEM.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT THEY'RE RELYING UPON THE CITY TO MAKE A LIVING WAGE AND TO PAY MORE THAN A MARKET RATE IS SIMPLY PAYING MORE. IT'S LIKE A CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTION.

WE AREN'T A CHARITY HERE AT THE CITY. AS MUCH AS WE SOMETIMES APPEAR TO BE.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PROCURING GOODS AND SERVICES, I THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH THE MARKET RATE.

NOT WITH ANYTHING ABOVE THAT FOR PURPOSES OF PROVIDING A LIVING WAGE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU. IT'S KIND OF A SOFTER VERSION OF MIKE.

HE'S LETTING US KNOW. OKAY. I THINK WE ARE ON TO.

IS THIS IS THIS ROUND THREE FOR FOR THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM? YOU HAVE YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

SO THIS WILL BE KIND OF A CATCH ALL FROM OUR DISCUSSION. I THINK THE POINT ABOUT PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT GOING INTO A BOND IS WELL TAKEN.

I'LL SEE YOUR GENERAL FUND AND I'LL RAISE YOU.

PHILANTHROPY, I THINK. $250,000 COULD BE RAISED THAT WAY.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DALLAS IS VALUED AT ABOUT OVER $200 BILLION.

SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THE CEO OF A $200 BILLION CORPORATION BEING TOLD BY HER BOARD OF DIRECTORS HOW TO MANAGE HER CONSULTANTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I THINK THAT EVEN IN THIS MORE SLIM TIME, WE NEED TO LET OUR CEO MAKE SOME JUDGMENTS ON THAT.

AND THEN FINALLY, ON THIS MARKET RATE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE DRIVING PEOPLE JUST TO CONSUME RESOURCES IN THE CITY, MAYBE WE SHOULD START WITH HAVING A WAGE THAT IS MORE LIVABLE TO START WITH.

AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THOSE OUT THERE WHERE THE MARKET RATE OR WHAT'S BEING PAID IS 950 AN HOUR, AND THAT IS JUST NOT SUSTAINABLE IN THIS SOCIETY.

SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD FROM HEARING THE CONVERSATION IS LOOKING AT WHAT THE MIT LIVING WAGE IS LOOKING AT MARKET RATE, SEEING HOW FAR WE MAY BE OUTPACING THE MARKET IN SOME AREAS.

AND IF THAT GAP NEEDS TO BE CLOSED, MAYBE THAT'S THE CASE.

BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A HARD AND FAST ANSWER ON THIS.

YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MISS MENDELSOHN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU. SO GOING BACK TO THAT SAME CHART ON GENERAL OBLIGATION IN ADDITION TO WANTING TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITH PENSION, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE MAYBE SOME OTHER INDICATION OF WHAT THE TOTAL TAX RATE IS FOR EACH OF THOSE CITIES.

[03:45:01]

AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE THE WHOLE PICTURE OF WHAT OUR SITUATION IS.

AND SO WHILE I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR INDICATED SHE WASN'T TRYING TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE TO HAVE A TAX ELECTION.

I MEAN, WE'RE ALREADY WAY HIGHER THAN THE OTHER CITIES, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHEN WHEN YOU DO THAT CHART.

AND THEN JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE POLICE HIRING, AND I HAVE PREVIOUSLY CHAIRED THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

THE GOAL WAS ONLY MET IN THE VERY LAST WEEK OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

THE ACADEMY START DATE WAS THE LAST WEEK OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

AND SO THE PAYMENT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO RESPOND TO THAT.

THANK YOU. YES. SO WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY SEND OUT A COMMUNICATION.

SO OUR TRANSPARENCY IS CLEAR ON WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR AND WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.

WE WILL UPDATE THE COUNCIL EVEN THROUGH THIS MONTH WITH THE HIRING INFORMATION THAT WE'VE SHARED AT PUBLIC SAFETY, AND BE ABLE TO TRULY EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST PART OF THE YEAR AND HOW THOSE EXPENSES THEN CARRIED OVER INTO THE EXISTING BUDGET.

SO WE'LL GET THAT OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL BY FRIDAY.

THANK YOU, MR. BAZALDUA. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER. I HOPE IT IS MORE TRANSPARENT THAN THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN AT PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE AFTER GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT IT, IT STILL IS NOT MAKING SENSE. I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE GOALS WE HAVE SET, THE DIRECTION WE HAVE GIVEN TO STAFF AND WHAT IT IS THAT'S COMING BACK TO US, BECAUSE THE NUMBERS AREN'T AREN'T WORKING.

THANK YOU MAYOR. OKAY. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE.

SO MADAM CITY MANAGER, I'LL LET YOU TAKE THE LIBERTY OF DISMISSING YOUR PANEL, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE READY TO DO.

AND THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MAYBE BREAK FOR LUNCH BEFORE WE GO INTO THE REMAINING BRIEFINGS.

THAT'S JUST A THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

AND THEN I GUESS WE'LL HOLD BRIEFING ITEM NUMBER B, WHICH IS THE THE UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY SURVEY UNTIL AFTER LUNCH.

OKAY. THEN WITH THAT, WE WILL LET ME. I ACTUALLY, I THINK I HAVE SOME EXECUTIVE SESSION LANGUAGE I NEED TO READ TO YOU.

[CLOSED SESSION]

AND IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO FROM TIME TO TIME TO TAKE CARE OF SOME BUSINESS.

BUT I'M REQUIRED TO READ THIS LANGUAGE TO YOU UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT TO DO THAT PROPERLY.

SO IT'S SORT OF FORMULAIC AND IT GOES LIKE THIS.

IT IS 1:18 P.M. ON JUNE 18TH, 2025. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551 .071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE AND FOUR AND UNDER SECTION 551 .072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED IN TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. AND THEN I'M OBLIGATED TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHEN WE WERE GOING TO GIVE THE PUBLIC SOME IDEA OF WHEN WE WERE GOING TO RECONVENE, WHICH WE CANNOT RECONVENE ANY EARLIER THEN. BUT WE CAN RECONVENE AT ANY TIME AFTER.

SO THERE. NOTICED THAT WE WILL COME BACK AT 2:00.

02:00. SO WE WERE STAYING AT RECESS UNTIL 2 P.M..

ALL RIGHT. THE CITY COUNCIL. HEY. HELLO. I NEED SOME.

I NEED SOME JUICE ON THIS MIC. I NEED IT. THERE IT IS.

ALL RIGHT. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS FIVE, 51.071 AND 551 .072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AND AT 3:47 P.M. ON JUNE 18TH, 2025, WE'VE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

I'LL GIVE IT BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER TO CONTINUE OUR BRIEFINGS FOR TODAY.

[B. 25-1914A 2025 Community Survey]

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. WE'D LIKE TO MOVE TO BRIEF AN ITEM NUMBER.

BE ON YOUR AGENDA FOR TODAY. IT'S A REVIEW OF THE 2025 COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS.

ENGAGING WITH RESIDENTS AND SEEKING THEIR INPUT IS A IS FUNDAMENTAL TO GOOD GOVERNANCE AND IS A BEST PRACTICE FOR MUNICIPALITIES.

AGAIN THIS YEAR, WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH ETSY INSTITUTE TO CONDUCT OUR ANNUAL COMMUNITY SURVEY SO WE CAN GAUGE RESIDENTS PERCEPTIONS, PRIORITIES, AND LEVEL OF SATISFACTION WHILE WE SEEK COMMUNITY INPUT THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT INITIATIVES.

THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT PROVIDES STATISTICALLY VALID RESULTS DUE TO THE HIGH QUALITY RANDOM SURVEY METHODS USED BY ETSY.

THE 2025 COMMUNITY SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED BEGINNING IN THE MONTH OF APRIL THROUGH THE MONTH OF MAY 2025, AND AT THIS TIME I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JEANETTE WEEDEN, THE DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES, TO INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS AND BEGIN TODAY'S PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS TOLBERT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL JEANETTE WEEDEN,

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JOINING ME HERE TO PRESENT THE RESULTS OF THE 2025 COMMUNITY SURVEY.

WE HAVE JASON MORANO, WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY RESEARCH WITH EAC.

AS MISS TOLBERT MENTIONED, WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH ETSY INSTITUTE OVER MANY YEARS.

ETSY IS AN INDUSTRY LEADER OF SURVEY INSTRUMENTS.

THE RESULTS INCLUDE GEOGRAPHIC DATA, COMPARATIVE DATA, INSIGHTS INTO WHAT WE ARE DOING WELL, AS WELL AS INSIGHTS INTO OPPORTUNITIES. AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. MURANO TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE RESULTS. FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JASON MURANO. I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT AND DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY RESEARCH AT ETSY INSTITUTE.

WE ARE A MARKETING RESEARCH FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN CONDUCTING COMMUNITY SURVEYS FOR CITY AND COUNTY GOVERNMENTS.

AND WE JUST FINISHED CONDUCTING YOUR 2025 COMMUNITY SURVEY.

SO TODAY I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE KEY FINDINGS FROM THE SURVEY.

I HAVE JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND HERE ABOUT ETSY INSTITUTE.

WE'RE A NATIONAL LEADER IN PROVIDING MARKET RESEARCH FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND IN THE LAST TEN YEARS ALONE, WE'VE CONDUCTED SURVEYS IN MORE THAN 1000 COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO THIS IS REALLY THE TYPE OF WORK THAT WE SPECIALIZE IN.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS IS JUST A LIST OF SOME OF THE LARGE CITIES THAT WE'VE SURVEYED OVER THE YEARS.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT I'LL GO THROUGH TODAY.

I'LL GO OVER THE PURPOSE AND METHODOLOGY OF THE SURVEY.

I'LL WALK THROUGH THE KEY FINDINGS. I'LL SUMMARIZE OUR MAIN TAKEAWAYS FROM THE SURVEY.

AND THEN I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.

GO AHEAD. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS TO CONDUCT A SURVEY LIKE THIS.

ONE IS TO GATHER INPUT FROM RESIDENTS TO GET AN OBJECTIVE ASSESSMENT OF RESIDENTS PERCEPTIONS OF CITY SERVICES, AND TO DETERMINE WHAT RESIDENTS FEEL ARE THE TOP PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO MEASURE TRENDS FROM PREVIOUS SURVEYS.

WE'VE ASKED MOSTLY ALL OF THESE SAME QUESTIONS NOW THREE YEARS IN A ROW.

THIS YEAR, 2024 AND 2023. AND THEN MANY OF THESE QUESTIONS WE ALSO ASKED IN YEARS BEFORE THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN THE SURVEY IS ALSO USED TO HELP IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SO THIS SURVEY WAS SEVEN PAGES LONG. THE PRINT MAIL VERSION OF THE SURVEY.

SO IT'S A VERY LONG SURVEY. IT'S ONE OF THE LONGER SURVEYS THAT WE ADMINISTER.

ON AVERAGE TAKES RESIDENTS 15 TO 20 MINUTES TO COMPLETE REALLY CLOSER TO 20 MINUTES FOR MOST PEOPLE.

THE SURVEY WAS ADMINISTERED BY A COMBINATION OF MAIL ONLINE AND PHONE TO RANDOMLY SELECTED HOUSEHOLDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THE SURVEY WAS AVAILABLE IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES.

OUR GOAL WAS TO RECEIVE AT LEAST 2100 COMPLETED SURVEYS, AND THAT INCLUDES AT LEAST 150 IN EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

AND WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT. WE ENDED UP WITH 2220 COMPLETED SURVEYS, INCLUDING MORE THAN 150 IN EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

THE SURVEY RESULTS AT THE 95% LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE HAVE A MARGIN OF ERROR OF PLUS OR -2.1%.

SO ESSENTIALLY THIS MEANS THAT IF WE CONDUCTED THIS SURVEY THE SAME WAY 100 TIMES, 95 TIMES, THE RESULTS WOULD BE PLUS OR -2.1% FROM WHAT WE'RE REPORTING.

SO EVEN FOR A STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, THE RESULTS ARE NOT PERFECT.

BUT THE MARGIN OF ERROR IS VERY SMALL. AND AS WE WERE ADMINISTERING THE SURVEY, WE MADE SURE THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF SURVEY RESPONDENTS REFLECT THE ACTUAL POPULATION OF THE CITY. GOOD. NEXT SLIDE. YEP. THIS CHART SHOWS THE NUMBER OF THE NUMBER AND PERCENTAGE OF SURVEY RESPONDENTS FROM EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE RECEIVED OVER 150 SURVEYS IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS CHART JUST SHOWS THE NUMBER OF YEARS THAT SURVEY RESPONDENTS HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY.

WE HAD A GOOD MIX OF NEWER RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS.

24% OF RESPONDENTS HAVE LIVED IN DALLAS FOR TEN YEARS OR LESS.

42% HAVE LIVED IN DALLAS FOR OVER 30 YEARS. NEXT SLIDE.

THIS SHOWS THE RACE AND ETHNICITY OF SURVEY RESPONDENTS.

WE HAD A VERY GOOD REPRESENTATION AND THIS MATCHES UP VERY CLOSELY WITH THE ACTUAL DEMOGRAPHICS BASED ON THE US CENSUS.

NEXT SLIDE. WE ALSO HAD A GOOD REPRESENTATION BY THE AGES OF MEMBERS OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT FILLED OUT A SURVEY.

SO WE HAD A GOOD MIX OF RESPONSES FROM HOUSEHOLDS WITH YOUNG CHILDREN, HOUSEHOLDS WITH TEENAGERS, HOUSEHOLDS WITHOUT CHILDREN, AND AS WELL AS HOUSEHOLDS AND SENIORS.

NEXT SLIDE. THEN WE ALSO HAD A GOOD REPRESENTATION BY HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

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NEXT SLIDE. SO HERE'S WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE SURVEY.

WE FOUND THAT RESIDENTS OVERALL HAVE A POSITIVE PERCEPTION OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

71% OF RESPONDENTS RATED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS AN EXCELLENT OR A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE.

LAST YEAR, THAT NUMBER WAS AT 66%, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THIS YEAR.

WE ALSO FOUND THAT OVERALL, THE CITY IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SATISFACTION RATINGS HAVE INCREASED IN 113 OF 128 AREAS SINCE LAST YEAR'S SURVEY.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG HIGHLIGHTS THIS YEAR ON THE SURVEY.

WE'LL LOOK AT THIS IN MORE DETAIL IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

OF THE 15 AREAS THAT HAD A DECREASE IN SATISFACTION SINCE LAST YEAR.

IN ALL 15 AREAS, THE DECREASE WAS LESS THAN 3%.

SO NO SIGNIFICANT DECREASES IN SATISFACTION COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S SURVEY.

WE ALSO FOUND THAT SATISFACTION WITH CITY SERVICES IS HIGHER IN DALLAS AND OTHER LARGE U.S.

CITIES. WE'LL LOOK AT THAT IN MORE DETAIL IN A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

AND THEN THE TOP OVERALL PRIORITIES FOR CITY SERVICES ARE MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE SERVICES.

AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAST COUPLE OF SURVEYS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO I MENTIONED THAT RESIDENTS HAVE A POSITIVE PERCEPTION OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS WAS THE FIRST QUESTION ON THE SURVEY.

AND HERE WE ASKED RESIDENTS TO RATE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

YOU CAN SEE THE DARKER, BLUER REIGNS OF EXCELLENCE.

THE LIGHT BLUE IS GOOD. THE GRAY IS FAIR THAN THE PINK IS POOR.

OVERALL, THE POSITIVE RATE IS FAR OUTWEIGH THE NEGATIVE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THIS CHART, YOU SEE THAT MOST RESIDENTS GAVE POSITIVE RATINGS TO DALLAS AS A PLACE TO DO BUSINESS, AS A PLACE TO WORK, AND AS A PLACE TO LIVE. NEXT SLIDE.

ON THIS QUESTION, WE ASKED RESIDENTS TO RATE MAJOR CATEGORIES OF CITY SERVICES.

SO HERE WE'RE ASKING RESIDENTS TO RATE THESE AREAS AT THE BIG PICTURE DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL.

AND THEN LATER ON IN THE SURVEY, WE ASKED ABOUT SOME MORE SPECIFIC AREAS WITHIN SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES.

SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE OVERALL THE POSITIVE RATE IS FAR OUTWEIGH THE NEGATIVE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE CHART THE HIGHEST RATE AREAS ARE DALLAS FIELD AIRPORT LIBRARY SERVICES, FIRE SERVICES, ARTS AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS, AND FACILITIES.

THE LOWEST RATE AREA WAS MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THAT NUMBER HAS IMPROVED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

THIS YEAR, 44% OF RESPONDENTS GAVE A RATING OF POOR.

LAST YEAR THAT NUMBER WAS AT 50%. SO IT'S THE LOWEST RATED AREA, BUT IT HAS BEEN IMPROVING.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS CHART SHOWS THE RATINGS FOR RESPONDENTS WHO HAVE CONTACTED THE CITY WITHIN THE PAST YEAR.

YOU CAN SEE RESPONDENTS HAVE HAD VERY POSITIVE INTERACTIONS WITH CITY EMPLOYEES.

MOST RESPONDENTS GAVE HIGH RATINGS TO EMPLOYEES BEING COURTEOUS, KNOWLEDGEABLE, AND RESPONSIVE, AND THEN MOST ALSO GAVE HIGH RATINGS JUST THROUGH THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE INTERACTING WITH CITY EMPLOYEES.

NEXT SLIDE. SO I MENTIONED THAT THINGS ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THE RATINGS HAVE INCREASED IN 113 OUT OF 128 AREAS SINCE LAST YEAR'S SURVEY.

THIS CHART SHOWS THE AREAS THAT HAVE HAD THE BIGGEST INCREASES IN SATISFACTION SINCE LAST YEAR.

SO THE BIGGEST INCREASES WERE MUNICIPAL COURT SERVICES, SERVICES TO YOUTH, THE ENFORCEMENT OF MULTIFAMILY BUILDING CONDITIONS, SOCIAL SERVICES DALLAS IS A PLACE TO RETIRE. THE EASE OF WALKING IN DALLAS, CITY SERVICES TO SENIORS, THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT RESIDENTS FEEL IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THE EASE OF REGISTERING FOR CITY RECREATION PROGRAMS AND EVENTS.

THE EASE OF BICYCLE TRAVEL IN THE CITY. AND THEN GOVERNMENT LEADERS BEING ETHICAL IN THE WAY THEY CONDUCT BUSINESS.

AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ALL THE AREAS THAT HAD A DECREASE IN SATISFACTION WERE BY LESS THAN 3%.

NEXT SLIDE. FOR THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES, THE DARKER BLUE BAR SHOW RESIDENTS ON THIS YEAR'S SURVEY WHO GAVE A RATING OF EXCELLENT OR GOOD.

THE LIGHT BLUE WERE THE POSITIVE RATINGS FOR LAST YEAR'S SURVEY, AND THEN THE GRAY BAR OR THE POSITIVE RATINGS FOR 2023.

AND AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, I PUT BLUE ARROWS BY THE PLACES THAT HAVE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN SATISFACTION SINCE LAST YEAR'S SURVEY.

SO THIS CHART IS FOR THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE.

YOU CAN SEE THE RATINGS HAVE REMAINED HIGH FOR DALLAS AS A PLACE TO DO BUSINESS AND AS A PLACE TO WORK.

WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A PLACE TO LIVE, AND DALLAS IS A PLACE TO LIVE.

THE SATISFACTION RATINGS HAVE INCREASED BY FIVE PERCENTAGE POINTS SINCE LAST YEAR'S SURVEY.

THE RATINGS HAVE ALSO INCREASED INCREASED FOR THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE IN DALLAS ON EACH OF THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND THEN THIS YEAR WE SAW A BIG, BIG INCREASE IN SATISFACTION WITH DALLAS AS A PLACE TO RAISE CHILDREN.

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LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A DECREASE IN SATISFACTION FOR AMBULANCE AND EMS SERVICES, BUT NOW THIS YEAR, THAT'S GONE UP BY FIVE PERCENTAGE POINTS. DRINKING WATER IS ONE OF THE FEW AREAS THAT'S HAD A DECREASE IN SATISFACTION EACH OF THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

DOWN BY JUST THREE PERCENTAGE POINTS, THOUGH, IN TWO STRAIGHT SURVEYS.

THEN WE HAD A BIG INCREASE IN SATISFACTION THIS YEAR ON STORM DRAINAGE.

NEXT SLIDE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS HAVE IMPROVED A LITTLE BIT ON EACH OF THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE 311 SERVICE REQUEST PROCESS.

SOCIAL SERVICES IS THE AREA THAT'S HAD AMONG THE BIGGEST INCREASES IN SATISFACTION NOW IN TWO STRAIGHT YEARS.

TWO YEARS AGO, 41% OF RESPONDENTS GAVE POSITIVE RATINGS TO SOCIAL SERVICES.

THIS YEAR IT'S UP TO 60%. THERE'S ALSO BEEN A BIG INCREASE THIS YEAR ON MUNICIPAL COURT SERVICES, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND THERE'S BEEN A JUST A SMALL INCREASE IN EACH OF THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN IT COMES TO POLICE SERVICES AND MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

NEXT SLIDE. NOW THIS SLIDE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PERCENTAGE OF RESPONDENTS WHO FEEL LIKE THESE ITEMS ARE A MAJOR PROBLEM.

SO IN THIS CASE, A LOWER NUMBER IS BETTER. YOU WANT TO SEE THESE NUMBERS GOING DOWN.

SO FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP ROW THIS YEAR, 65% OF RESPONDENTS SAID HOMELESSNESS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM.

BUT THAT NUMBER WAS AT 73% LAST YEAR, 75% TWO YEARS AGO.

SO IT IS IMPROVING. SAME THING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREETS.

49% OF RESPONDENTS THIS YEAR FEEL LIKE THAT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM, WHICH IS A HIGH NUMBER.

BUT IT WAS 60% LAST YEAR. THEN WHEN IT COMES TO CRIME AND DRUGS ON TWO STRAIGHT YEARS NOW, WE'VE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT. TWO YEARS AGO, 61% RATED CRIME AS A MAJOR PROBLEM.

IT WENT DOWN TO 52% LAST YEAR AND NOW IT'S AT 45%.

TWO YEARS AGO, 60% OF RESPONDENTS FELT THAT DRUGS WERE A MAJOR PROBLEM IN THE CITY.

THAT WENT DOWN TO 51% LAST YEAR, DOWN TO 42% THIS YEAR.

MOST OF THESE OTHER RATINGS HAVE BEEN VERY SIMILAR AMONG THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO I MENTIONED THAT SATISFACTION WITH CITY SERVICES.

THIS OVERALL IS HIGHER IN DALLAS THAN OTHER LARGE CITIES.

NEXT SLIDE. SO ON THIS SLIDE, THE BLUE BAR SHOWS DALLAS RESIDENTS WHO GAVE A RATING OF EITHER EXCELLENT OR GOOD.

THE ORANGE BAR. THE SATISFACTION RATINGS FOR RESIDENTS AND OTHER LARGE CITIES ACROSS THE US.

AND THIS IS BASED ON A NATIONAL SURVEY THAT FTC INSTITUTE CONDUCTS EVERY 1 TO 2 YEARS WITH RANDOMLY SELECTED RESIDENTS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN MOST AREAS, DALLAS RATES SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE OTHER CITIES.

SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE WE RATE THE FOREST OF OTHER CITIES INCLUDE PARKS AND RECREATION, COMMUNICATION AND CUSTOMER SERVICE FROM CITY EMPLOYEES.

THE ONLY AREAS WHERE YOUR RATINGS ARE LOWER ARE POLICE SERVICES AND MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT YOU CAN SEE DALLAS RATINGS ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT BELOW THE NATIONAL AVERAGE, SO REALLY NOT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

NEXT SLIDE. SO NOW WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT TOP PRIORITIES.

NEXT SLIDE. SO WE SAW EARLIER HOW SATISFIED RESIDENTS ARE WITH MAJOR CATEGORIES OF CITY SERVICES.

AS A FOLLOW UP QUESTION WE ASKED WHICH OF THESE SERVICES SHOULD RECEIVE THE MOST EMPHASIS FROM THE CITY? WHAT SHOULD BE THE CITY'S TOP PRIORITIES OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS? YOU CAN SEE THE TOP OVERALL PRIORITY IS MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THAT'S BEEN THE CASE CONSISTENTLY ON EACH SURVEY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

POLICE SERVICES HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN THE SECOND HIGHEST PRIORITY ON THE LAST SEVERAL SURVEYS.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AREAS THAT ARE RATED CLOSELY TOGETHER AS THE NEXT HIGHEST PRIORITIES.

THEY INCLUDE SOCIAL SERVICES, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, HOUSING, DRINKING WATER, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CODE ENFORCEMENT.

NEXT SLIDE. NOW THIS CHART IS SOMETHING WE CALL THE IMPORTANT SATISFACTION RATING.

THIS ANALYSIS ON A BASE IS BASED ON TWO TYPES OF DATA, WHICH WE'VE SEEN ALREADY.

WE FIRST ASK RESIDENTS HOW SATISFIED THEY ARE WITH SERVICES.

THEN WE ASKED WHICH SERVICES SHOULD BE THE TOP PRIORITIES FOR THE CITY.

AND THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS THAT THOSE SERVICES THAT HAVE A COMBINATION OF LOW SATISFACTION RATINGS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I RATED THE RATE AS THE MOST IMPORTANT ARE IDENTIFIED AS THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES TO FOCUS ON.

SO THE AREAS IN PINK ARE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY.

YOU CAN SEE THAT INCLUDES MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE SERVICES.

THE NEXT HIGHEST PRIORITIES ARE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, HOUSING, NEIGHBORHOOD CODE ENFORCEMENT,

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HERE IF YOU START TO THE RIGHT THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT RESIDENTS RATED AS THE MOST IMPORTANT.

AS YOU MOVE LEFT THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE GETS LESS AND LESS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE CHART, THOSE ARE THE SERVICES WITH THE HIGHEST SATISFACTION RATING.

AND AS YOU MOVE DOWN, THE SATISFACTION GETS LESS AND LESS.

SO IF YOU LOOK IN THAT BOTTOM RIGHT HAND QUADRANT WHERE IT SAYS OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT, THOSE ARE THE SERVICES THAT HAVE A COMBINATION OF LOWER SATISFACTION AND ALSO HIGH IMPORTANCE.

SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES TO FOCUS ON.

YOU CAN SEE MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE SERVICES ARE FIRMLY IN THAT QUADRANT.

AND THEN SOCIAL SERVICES, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND HOUSING ARE ALSO JUST BARELY IN THAT QUADRANT.

NEXT SLIDE. SO JUST A QUICK RECAP. WE SAW THAT RESIDENTS HAVE A POSITIVE PERCEPTION OF THE CITY.

MORE THAN SEVEN OUT OF TEN RESPONDENTS FEEL THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS AN EXCELLENT OR A GOOD PLACE TO LIVE, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR'S SURVEY. OVERALL, THE SATISFACTION RATINGS HAVE INCREASED IN 113 OF 128 AREAS SINCE LAST YEAR'S SURVEY.

AND WE SAW THE AREAS THAT HAVE HAD THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS.

SATISFACTION WITH CITY SERVICES OVERALL IS HIGHER IN DALLAS THAN OTHER LARGE CITIES IN MOST AREAS.

AND THEN THE TOP TWO OVERALL PRIORITIES FOR CITY SERVICES ARE MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICE SERVICES.

SO THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT I HAD. AND WITH THAT, THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

WE ARE READY FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

OKAY. MISS MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING BRIEFING. LET IT BE. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. SO STARTING WITH PAGE 18, WITH YOUR TREND ANALYSIS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER OF BULLETS THERE, BUT CAN I SPECIFICALLY ASK IF THERE'S BEEN ANY ACTUAL CHANGE IN WHAT WE'VE DONE? SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, LIKE, MUNICIPAL COURTS LAST YEAR YOU TOLD US, WELL, I THINK IT WAS ACTUALLY EARLIER THIS YEAR, YOU TOLD US IT HAD HAD A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DROP.

BUT HAS ANYTHING CHANGED IN COURTS OR IS IT JUST THE PERCEPTION SOMEHOW HAS CHANGED? I, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D BE THE ONE TO ANSWER THAT, BUT I THINK THE PERCEPTION HAS PROBABLY CHANGED MORE THAN, THEN THE ACTUAL SERVICE DELIVERY. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT LIKE, SERVICES TO SENIORS? HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING TO CHANGE THAT? FOR IT TO HAVE GOTTEN A 9% INCREASE.

SO FOR SENIORS AS PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET FOR 24, WE WE ADDED FUNDING TO ADD ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE. THAT WAS DIRECTED TOWARDS SENIORS.

WE ARE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING A NEEDS ANALYSIS STUDY.

SO THAT MAY INFLUENCE THE RESPONDENTS PERCEPTIONS OF SERVICES PROVIDED.

WELL, I MEAN, LIKE, I HOSTED A SENIOR LISTENING SESSION.

I KNOW MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES DID AS WELL. BUT I'M WONDERING IF JUST HAVING THAT ACTIVITY IN THE DISCUSSION CHANGE THE PERCEPTION OR IF WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED MORE SERVICES.

SO IN THE CASE OF SENIORS, WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED MORE SERVICES.

SO WE DEDICATED RESOURCES IN THE BUDGET AS PART OF THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET SPECIFICALLY FOR SENIORS.

AND WHAT ABOUT FOR EASE OF BICYCLE TRAVEL IN DALLAS? WE APPROVE THE BIKE PLAN, BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR.

HAVE WE ADDED A LOT OF BIKE LANES TO HAVE HAD AN 8% INCREASE? SO I WANT TO GO BACK. I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SENIOR ONE AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO THE BIKE LANE ONE.

SO ON THE SENIOR ONE, WE REALLY DID DEMONSTRATE IN THE CURRENT BUDGET THE SUPPORT FOR THE OVERALL STRATEGIC PLAN TO FOCUS ON THOSE AGE FRIENDLY PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES AS WE WORKED WITH THE SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION.

SO I THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF SUPPORT OUT THERE IN OUR SENIOR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE DID PAY ATTENTION TO THAT AS IT RELATES TO THE BIKE PLANS.

WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE PUT IN PLACE.

AND AS WE GOT OUT AND WE STARTED ACTUALLY SHOWING THE ADDITIONAL LANES NOW COMING INTO THE SYSTEM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY HELPED US. SO IT'S REALLY THE WORK THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE OVER THIS LAST YEAR TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE DOLLARS AND NOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY SEEING THOSE DOLLARS GO INTO THOSE LANES AND BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT ON THE STREET.

BUT THIS GENTLEMAN JUST EXPLAINS TO US, EXPLAIN TO US HOW WE HAD A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE ANSWER THE SURVEY, ALL DIFFERENT AGES. MANY OF THEM WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME, HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT ANYTHING WE'RE DOING WITH SENIORS.

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AND THEN SAME THING WITH BIKE LANES. I MEAN, HAVE WE ACTUALLY ADDED A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF BIKE LANES? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE HAD FUNDING IN THE BUDGET EVEN FROM 2020 FOR THE PRIOR YEAR, AND GETTING THOSE CONTRACTS OUT TO BE ABLE TO GET THE LANES ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED.

SO AGAIN, I THINK IT'S EITHER THAT PEOPLE SEE THERE'S VISIBLE NEW OR ADDITIONAL LANES THAT MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE, BUT WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY HOW THEY VIEWED THE SENIOR PIECE OR THE BACK PIECE.

I THINK WE'RE JUST SHOWING WHAT THE CURRENT RESULTS ARE.

BUT I THINK AGAIN, IT'S BACK TO THE OVERALL INVESTMENTS.

AND NOW SEEING THOSE INVESTMENTS OUT ON THE STREET MIGHT BE ADDING TO, WE HOPE, IN A POSITIVE WAY THAT THE CITY TRULY IS LISTENING TO ITS RESIDENTS.

WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMITTEE MEETING FOR A LONG TIME, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ACTUALLY SERVICES THAT HAVE CHANGED THAT HAVE WARRANTED, YOU KNOW, SERVICES TO USE UP 11%, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND REC, MAYBE YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING NEW.

I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE THINK WE CAUSED IT BY OUR ACTIONS, OR IF MAYBE THERE'S JUST SOME GOOD CONVERSATION AND MARKETING HAPPENING.

LIKE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE IF WE KNOW WHY THERE HAVE BEEN SUCH A BIG INCREASE IN SOME OF THESE.

I WOULD HOPE THAT IT'S DOING GOOD THINGS. EXACTLY. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILWOMAN MIDDLETON. I WOULD HOPE THAT IT'S A COMBINATION, THAT IT'S THE ACTIONS AND BASED ON, AGAIN, WHAT WE GOT IN PREVIOUS SURVEYS, THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

AND HOW THOSE ACTIONS ARE NOW TRANSLATING TO WHERE PEOPLE REALLY DO FEEL, EVEN FROM THEIR PERCEPTIONS, THAT WE ARE INVESTING IN THE THINGS THAT MATTER THE MOST TO THEM.

SO I WOULD HOPE IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH. OKAY.

IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR YOUR STAFF TO JUST LOOK AT THAT LIST AND SAY, OH, HERE MY DEPARTMENT DID THESE THINGS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE REALLY HELPFUL. SO I JUST WANT TO CALL OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.

BIGGEST PROBLEMS HOMELESSNESS, INFRASTRUCTURE, CRIME, DRUGS, PANHANDLING, SOLICITING.

NOT SURPRISING. I THINK IT'S BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT.

THAT LIST IF MAYBE SOMETIMES A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORDER.

YEAH. VERY. YEAH. DEFINITELY. YEP. AND THEN ON 26 MAJOR CATEGORIES THINGS THAT WE THINK SHOULD BE THE CITY'S TOP PRIORITIES. I MEAN, AGAIN, INFRASTRUCTURE, POLICE SERVICES, SOCIAL SERVICES WHICH YOU DEFINE TO BE HOMELESSNESS AND CHILD CARE.

THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. ON THE SURVEY FOR SOCIAL SERVICES, WE GAVE EXAMPLES, SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT.

AND IT WAS HOMELESS PROGRAMS SENIOR PROGRAMS, CHILD CARE PROGRAMS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS AND COMMUNITY CENTERS.

OKAY, GREAT. YEAH. AND FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. AM I RIGHT THAT YOU PUT DOWN STREETS AND SIDEWALKS? IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY.

AND SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ARE SUPER CORE SERVICES THAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING BOTH IN THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE.

RIGHT. THESE ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS. HOMELESSNESS, INFRASTRUCTURE, STREETS, CRIME, POLICING, PANHANDLING, HOMELESSNESS. AND THEN YOU COME OVER TO THE ONES THAT ARE MOST.

IT'S JUST THE MIRROR IMAGE. AND SO I HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE YOUR GUIDE FOR THE BUDGET.

I HOPE THAT YOU'RE HEARING VERY LOUDLY FROM THE RESIDENTS, WHETHER THEY ATTENDED A BUDGET TOWN HALL OR NOT.

THIS IS WHAT THEY CARE ABOUT. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT AND THINK SHOULD BE OUR PRIORITY.

AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY THINK WE'RE DOING WELL IN.

AND SO WHO COULD SAY IT BETTER THAN THE VERY PEOPLE.

AND I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THIS TO HEART. I KNOW YOU HAVE LOOKED AT IT MANY DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT THIS RESIDENT SURVEY IS REALLY A TRUE REFLECTION OF WHAT I THINK ARE THE BUDGET PRIORITIES.

AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO HEAR THAT, UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE TELLING US OVER AND OVER WHAT THEY NEED.

AND I HOPE WE'LL LISTEN. THANKS. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THIS IS ALWAYS FUN TO TO DIG INTO AND JUST SEE WHERE THERE'S PROGRESS AND WHERE WE NEED TO WORK, BUT I AGREE. I MEAN, THIS IS A PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING PLAYBOOK.

SO THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE ALL OF THE STAFF NEEDS TO DIG INTO THIS.

AND THE CITY MANAGER, I KNOW YOU ALREADY LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, BUT THIS IS VERY TELLING.

IT'S VERY CONSISTENT, QUITE HONESTLY. AND I THINK THAT IN, IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS THAT ARE MOVING, IT MAY BE LESS IN SOME CASES ABOUT THE LITERAL PROGRESS OF LIKE A NEW BIKE LANE OR SOMETHING.

BUT IT SHOWS THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING IN AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THIS, LIKE A BRIEFING AND THE MEDIA PICKS IT UP AND WE TALK ABOUT IT IN OUR NEWSLETTERS OR AT TOWN HALL MEETINGS, THAT PEOPLE ARE ABSORBING THIS INFORMATION AND THEY'RE SEEING SOME PROGRESS AND SOME FORWARD MOVEMENT.

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WE'VE GOT TO DELIVER ON THAT ULTIMATELY. BUT THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

I YOU KNOW, I LOVE TO BE A CHEERLEADER IN THIS ASPECT OF THE SURVEY BECAUSE ON PAGE 15, CALLING OUT THE CITY EMPLOYEES, I MEAN, LOOK AT THESE CATEGORIES THAT OUR CITY STAFF WHO WORK SO HARD EVERY SINGLE DAY IS CALLED OUT IN A REALLY POSITIVE WAY ON COURTESY AND KNOWLEDGE AND ETHICS AND RESPONSIVENESS AND JUST OVERALL IN THEIR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO IF YOU'RE LISTENING OR WATCHING, I JUST WANT THEM ALL TO KNOW THAT WHAT YOU DO EVERY DAY IS VERY MUCH PICKED UP UPON BY THE RESIDENTS THAT WE SERVE, AND WE CAN DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT ALL OF THEM.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A MESSAGE OF UNITY HERE ON PAGE 32.

13 OF 14 DISTRICTS AGREE. AND IT'S THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.

MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AND POLICE SERVICES ARE THE NUMBER TWO PRIORITY.

AND SO I KNOW I TALK ABOUT THE STREETS ALL THE TIME AND CALLING OUT IT'S NOT ONLY THE THOROUGHFARES OR JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

IT'S BOTH OF THOSE ARE CRITICAL. SO I'VE SAID MY PIECE EARLIER, I'LL LET THAT GO ON.

POLICE. YOU KNOW, ONE WE CAN FIX BY VISIBILITY AND THAT TAKES MORE OFFICERS.

AND WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT. BUT THE POLICE RESPONSE TIMES, I THINK IT'S NOT ONLY CLOSING THAT GAP AND SEEING MOVEMENT, BUT IT'S ALSO HOW WE REPORT IT BACK TO OUR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO STEWARD THAT POSITIVE INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE IT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW AND ALLOW THEM TO UPDATE THEIR OWN CRITIQUE SO THAT THEY KNOW AND THEY FEEL SAFER.

AND I THINK WE'LL SEE SOME OF THE OTHER NUMBERS CHANGE AS A RESULT OF THAT.

THE PERCEPTION OF PROBLEM AROUND HOMELESSNESS, I COULDN'T TELL BY THE GRAPH WHETHER WHAT THE YEAR OVER YEAR DIFFERENCE WAS.

I MEAN, THIS SAYS IT'S 69% ARE SAYING FAR AND AWAY THAT IS A HUGE ISSUE, A PERCEPTION ISSUE.

WHAT DO WE HAVE A YEAR OVER YEAR NUMBER ON THAT ONE? YEAH. IF WE GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE, IT WAS A FEW SLIDES AGO.

AND I MAY HAVE JUST BEEN LOOKING AT THE ONE THAT ONLY HIGHLIGHTED THIS YEAR.

YEAH. NO, THAT'S OKAY. IF WE CAN JUST GO BACK, KEEP GOING BACK SOME MORE HERE BEFORE THAT.

YEAH. GO BACK. GO. SORRY. KEEP GOING. THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE.

WHAT'S THE NUMBER? YEAH. SO HOMELESSNESS. SO ON THIS YEAR'S SURVEY, 65% OF RESPONDENTS THAT HOMELESSNESS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM.

WHICH IS AN IMPROVEMENT LAST YEAR WAS 73%. TWO YEARS AGO IT WAS 75%.

OKAY. SO THERE'S BEEN SOME MOVEMENT, BUT IT'S STILL NUMBER ONE.

YEAH. SO WE WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN THAT AREA.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STRUCK ME, AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES, IT'S MORE JUST ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS, WHICH I KNOW WE CAN HAVE AT OUR DISPOSAL AT ANY TIME.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT PAGE 58 AND PAGE 60 AND I SEE THE INTERSECTION OF THE FACT THAT DEMOGRAPHICALLY 40% OF OUR POPULATION IS 50 PLUS. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT HOUSEHOLD INCOME, AND A THIRD OF OUR HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS $50,000 OR LESS.

SO THAT TOO, ESPECIALLY IN THIS CLIMATE WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO REVIEW ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS AND WHETHER WE GET FEDERAL FUNDING OR NOT. AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS VERY MUCH A TELLTALE SIGN OF THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY, AND THAT THERE'S SOME PROGRAMS WE MAY HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, AREN'T AS TANGIBLE AS A STREET OR SEEING A POLICEMAN IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THIS VERY MUCH HAS AN IMPACT ON THE KINDS OF SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT WE MAY HAVE THAT CAN CHANGE THAT TRAJECTORY.

SO I DON'T WANT TO LET THE THE DEMOGRAPHICS PAGE JUST BE ONE.

WE SKIP OVER AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER FINDINGS, BECAUSE THAT SHOULD ALSO VERY MUCH INFORM WHAT EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT WHEN THEY THEY PROPOSE THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON. THANK YOU. AND THANKS FOR THIS POLL BECAUSE I'VE DONE THIS ALL QUITE A BIT.

SO TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MISS WILLIS SAID IS THAT WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING OUR FIRST DOWNS.

BY NO MEANS WE WON THE GAME, BUT LET'S CELEBRATE OUR FIRST DOWNS.

AND THAT COMES WITH THE CITY STAFF AND THAT COMES WITH YOU, MISS TOLBERT.

I MEAN, YOU'VE YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, SMALL INCREMENTAL CHANGE IN THREE YEARS IS A BIG CHANGE.

SO, YOU KNOW, TEN PERCENTAGE POINTS. CELEBRATE IT.

AND BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DONE.

BUT THAT MEANS TAKE A TIME OUT, CELEBRATE YOUR WIN, REORGANIZE AND MOVE FORWARD.

SO I DO WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF FOR DOING THIS BECAUSE OUR WIN IS IS THEIR WORK.

AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT AND FIRST I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO D9, I THINK WE WERE THE HIGHEST ONES TO DO THE, THE THE THE THE POLL. AND SO WHICH MEANS I HAVE A VERY ACTIVE GROUP.

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AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION TO THEN USE IT TO DEVELOP YOUR WORK PLANS? ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR POSITIVE COMMENTS, AS WELL AS OTHERS AROUND THE HORSESHOE ABOUT THE RECOGNITION OF OUR GREATEST ASSET, WHICH ARE OUR PEOPLE.

SO THE THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, I THINK, IS REALLY HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ELEVATE WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN THE SURVEY AT A GREATER LEVEL AND IN A MORE TRANSPARENT WAY, BECAUSE IT TRULY REQUIRES THE ALIGNMENT OF RESOURCES TO DELIVER ON THOSE PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE GETTING DIRECTLY FROM OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO I THINK, IF NOTHING ELSE, IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE US DOWN THIS PATH OF HAVING GREATER LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK IT'S GOING TO ALLOW FOR US TO NO LONGER USE DEPARTMENTS VERSUS DEPARTMENTS, BUT IT'S MORE ABOUT THOSE PROGRAMS THAT TRULY WILL DELIVER LONG TERM IMPACT.

AND THEN YOU'RE REALLY ABLE TO THEN SEE HOW THEN THE SURVEY IN THE UPCOMING YEARS WILL THEN ALSO ALIGN WITH WHAT THEY SEE US DOING WITH THE BUDGET.

SO THE BUDGET BECOMES THE TOOL IN OUR IN OUR MINDS THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO TRULY SHOW HOW THE RESIDENTS NEEDS AND WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING FORTH IS TRULY WHAT'S THEN REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET.

NOW, THERE WILL BE OTHER THINGS THAT WE JUST HAVE TO DO AS A CITY, FOR EXAMPLE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IN THIS TOP LIST THE ONGOING INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE INTO TECHNOLOGY, BUT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DELIVER SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED WITHOUT THE USE OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND BEING ABLE TO KEEP UP.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO THEN SHOW THROUGH OUR RANKING THOSE PRIORITIES THAT ARE WHAT I CALL ABOVE THE LINE THAT TRULY ANSWERED THESE NEEDS DIRECTLY. AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT HELP YOU THEN TO DELIVER THESE THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE IN THE RANKING.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THROUGH HOW WE APPROACH THE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE THE SUPPORT SYSTEM IN ORDER TO PUSH THESE, LIKE YOU SAID, TECHNOLOGY OR JUST THE BACK OFFICE WORK.

EXACTLY. AND SO YOU'LL SEE KIND OF WHAT'S ABOVE THE LINE, WHICH ARE IN DIRECT ALIGNMENT WITH THE NEEDS.

HERE'S HOW WE'RE INVESTING IN THOSE THINGS. SO IN THE UPCOMING SURVEY, YOU OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO TRULY GET THAT CORRELATION BETWEEN THE INVESTMENT AND THE NEEDS.

AND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, EVEN THE INCREASES IN SATISFACTION, YOU SHOULD START SEEING THOSE EVEN GO UP EVEN GREATER.

SO IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR US. AND TRULY, I BELIEVE A A WAY THAT HOLDS US ACCOUNTABLE GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GRADE NOT ONLY OUR PAPER, BUT OUR RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO GRADE ALL OF OUR PAPERS COLLECTIVELY.

RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, BACK TO COMMS 101 IS PERCEPTION IS REALITY.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS AND SHOWING THAT WE WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET, WE DON'T HAVE THE MANPOWER TO GET IT DONE AT ALL AT ONCE.

BUT WE WILL WORK TOWARDS THAT TOGETHER. AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE PRIORITIES AND TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEN THERE'S TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT THAT'S JUST RIGHT UNDER THERE. AND THEY GO HAND IN GLOVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THREE STATE HIGHWAYS COMING THROUGH YOUR DISTRICT. SO MY QUESTION AND MY CHALLENGE HERE IS THAT WE NEED TO PROBABLY WORK WITH OUR COUNTERPARTS, BECAUSE I KNOW MOST OF US HAVE A STATE HIGHWAY COMING THROUGH.

AND TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE BETTER PARTNERS ON OUR OUTSIDE FRONT AS WELL.

EXACTLY. AND I THINK THAT ALLOWS FOR US, AGAIN, TO SHOW WHERE WE'RE INVESTING IN THE GREATER NEEDS, WHETHER OTHER NEEDS THAT CAN BE BETTER SUPPORTED WITH OTHER FUNDING AND PARTNERSHIPS.

AND SO OVERALL, THE PROGRAMS THEMSELVES BECOME THE VEHICLE FOR CHANGE AND THEN GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO.

FIND ADDITIONAL WAYS THAT WE CLOSE ANY GAPS THAT MAYBE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO WITH OUR EXISTING RESOURCES.

SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO AGAIN, IT'S IT'S GOING TO HELP US BE MORE EFFICIENT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, OUR PERFORMANCE IS TRULY GOING TO THEN TRANSLATE TO OUTCOMES THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN, THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP MOVE THE CITY FORWARD. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ALL AT ONE TIME.

IN 27, 28, YOU'LL CONTINUE TO SEE HOW WE'RE MOVING EVEN CLOSER TO TRULY A BUDGET THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS AS WE NEED, BECAUSE SOMETIMES PRIORITIES ARE GOING TO CHANGE, WHICH IS WHY THE ANNUAL SURVEY IS GOING TO BE CORRECT.

IT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL. SO THIS ONE WHERE IT KIND OF RANKS EVERYTHING.

CAN WE PUT IT IN OUR BUDGET BOOK IN SOMEWHERE? I MEAN, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A VERY IT'S LIKE NUMBERS 27 THAT SHOWS MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE,

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AND IT'S KIND OF A REFRESHER BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES WE LOSE.

THOUGHT OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED OUR NORTH STAR IS SUPPOSED TO BE. AND SO I JUST THINK THAT THIS ISN'T A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE BEFORE US TO SAY, OH, WAIT, THIS IS WHAT FOLKS SAID THEY WANTED.

WE CAN DEFINITELY DO IT. AND I THINK IT EVEN HELPED LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD EVEN SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES BASED ON COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GO BACK AND AND SHOW WHERE THOSE PRIORITIES WERE BEING ADDRESSED IN THE BUDGET.

SO WE'LL DEFINITELY WORK TO SEE HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE THE NARRATIVE IN THE NARRATIVE.

ABSOLUTELY. WE CAN DO THAT. AND I MEAN, ALL I CAN SAY IS THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS.

AND I JUST THINK THAT DALLAS DAYS ARE BRIGHT AHEAD OF US.

AND I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, PUPPIES AND KITTY CATS, BUT IT DOES SHOW THAT WE ARE LISTENING AND WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND I THINK TOGETHER WE CAN.

WE CAN DO THAT. SO THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD THE STAFF.

AND IF IT COMES BACK NEGATIVE NEXT YEAR, THEN WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION THEN.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.

I HAVE A THIS IS GREAT. I'M LOOKING AT THE CHARTS AND ETC..

I WANT TO KNOW I SEE IT AS 157. AND IN DISTRICT FOUR, I'M LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWN OF HOW IS OUR COMMUNITY TARGETED TO GET THE RESULTS.

WHERE IS THE EMAIL CANVAS? BY MAIL BECAUSE THIS IS GREAT.

BUT HOWEVER, I KNOW THERE'S MORE PEOPLE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS PRETTY LARGE AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET MORE RESPONSE AND SUPPORT.

IT WAS A COMBINATION OF MAIL AND ONLINE. THIS SURVEY WAS ADMINISTERED THE SAME WAY IN ALL DISTRICTS.

WE MAILED A SURVEY TO A THOUSAND RANDOMLY SELECTED HOUSEHOLDS IN EACH DISTRICT, BUT THEN THE MAILED SURVEY ALSO HAD A LINK TO AN ONLINE VERSION OF THE SURVEY SO RESIDENTS COULD FILL OUT THE PRINTED SURVEY. MAIL IT BACK TO US.

THEY COULD GO ONLINE USING THAT THAT URL. THEN THERE WAS ALSO A QR CODE THAT WAS PRINTED ON THE ENVELOPE THAT THE SURVEY WAS MAILED IN.

SO THERE WERE DIFFERENT WAYS RESIDENTS COULD FILL OUT THE SURVEY.

AND THE REASON WE LIKE THAT HYBRID APPROACH IS IT ALLOWS US TO REACH A MORE DIVERSE GROUP OF RESIDENTS BY GIVING DIFFERENT WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN FILL OUT THE SURVEY.

SO WHEN YOU GOT YOU SAID IT WAS SELECTED, OR DID YOU JUST SEND IT OUT TO EVERYONE AND YOU JUST CHOSE TO DO HYBRID DIFFERENT ONES TO DO THE EMAIL THEN VERSUS THE ONE TO DO MAIL AND ETC.. HOW DID YOU MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? WHAT DATA DID YOU HAVE TO SAY? THIS PERSON NORMALLY GOES VIA EMAIL. THIS PERSON RESPONDS VIA MAIL.

SO WHAT WHAT DATA DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION? WHAT METRICS DID YOU GUYS USE? RIGHT.

THE HOUSEHOLDS WERE SELECTED COMPLETELY AT RANDOM TO RECEIVE A SURVEY, AND WE JUST PURCHASED PURCHASE ADDRESSES FROM A LIST BROKERAGE FIRM.

EVERY HOUSEHOLD THAT WAS SELECTED A RANDOM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY WAS OFFERED ALL THOSE METHODS.

THEY RECEIVED A SURVEY IN THE MAIL, AND THEN THAT MAILED SURVEY HAD THE LINK TO THE ONLINE SURVEY AND QR CODE TO THE ONLINE SURVEY AS WELL.

BUT WE DID A SIMPLE RANDOM SAMPLE METHOD, MEANING THAT EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN THE CITY HAD AN EQUAL CHANCE OF BEING SELECTED AT RANDOM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SURVEY.

AND SO THOSE THAT DID WAS THOSE THAT WERE SELECTED THEY FILLED OUT EVERYTHING IN THE SURVEY.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. NOW, NOW, SOMEONE MAY HAVE SKIPPED 1 OR 2 QUESTIONS, EITHER ON PURPOSE OR BY ACCIDENT, BUT ALL ALL OF THESE 2220 COMPLETED SURVEYS WERE FILLED OUT AT LEAST 90% OF THE SURVEY.

MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE FILLED OUT EVERY QUESTION ON THE SURVEY.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SURE. ANYONE IN THE VIRTUAL SPACE? COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF. THIS IS VERY HELPFUL AND GIVE YOU KUDOS WHERE KUDOS IS DUE.

THERE'S A LOT OF CATEGORIES THAT SHOWED SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT.

AND I THINK THAT THIS ANNUAL REPORT IS VERY HELPFUL.

TO FIND OUT WHERE THE, THE PRIORITIES ARE OF OUR CITY.

I I'M CURIOUS TO TO KNOW YOU MENTIONED HOUSEHOLD.

HAVE WE HEARD HAVE WE HEARD AT ALL ANY INPUT IN THESE PRIORITIES FROM THOSE WHO ARE CONSIDERED UNHOUSED? NO. THIS SURVEY, THE SAMPLE IS ADDRESS BASED.

SO IT'S IT'S. YEAH, THIS SURVEY DOESN'T TOUCH ON THAT.

OKAY. I WOULD LOVE TO TO SEE HOW ALIGNED

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NOT NECESSARILY IN ENCAMPMENTS OR ON THE STREET, BUT WITH OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO THEY ALSO UTILIZE THOSE ADDRESSES AS THEIR HOME.

SO IF WE COULD INCORPORATE THAT MOVING FORWARD IN SOME WAY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BE VERY HELPFUL AND EYE OPENING.

THANK YOU. I DIDN'T. ARE YOU WAITING ON A RESPONSE? I WAS YEAH. OH, SORRY, I DIDN'T YEAH. FOR THE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY.

IT REALLY WOULDN'T REACH THAT GROUP. THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A SEPARATE EFFORT.

I KNOW ONE CITY HAS HAD STAFF BEFORE GO OUT TO PLACES LIKE HOMELESS SHELTERS OR, YOU KNOW, PLACES LIKE THAT TO, TO REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS.

NOW, TYPICALLY IT WOULDN'T BE THIS EXACT SAME SURVEY NECESSARILY.

THIS IS A REALLY INTENSE IN-DEPTH SURVEY. IN THOSE EXAMPLES, IT WAS MORE JUST KIND OF OPEN ENDED QUESTIONS AND RECEIVING FEEDBACK FROM, FROM THOSE FOLKS. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE REPORTED SEPARATELY FROM THIS STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY REPORT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OPTION OF HOW IT COULD BE HANDLED.

I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN JUST AS EVERY OTHER RESIDENT.

AND SEE IF WE COULD MAYBE I THINK IT'D BE AN INTERESTING EXERCISE.

ON COMPARING AND CONTRASTING WHAT THOSE RESPONSES LOOK LIKE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE WE HAVE SOME IN OUR SHELTERS THAT ARE THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND THAT'S THEIR MAILING ADDRESS. THAT'S THEIR ADDRESS THAT THEY USE TO REGISTER TO VOTE AND TO CAST THEIR VOTES FROM I THINK COMPLETELY ALIENATING AN ENTIRE POPULATION THAT WE ACTUALLY KNOW EXISTS.

IT'S NOT A HARD TO REACH NECESSARILY UNFEASIBLE TO REACH POPULATION.

IS IS KIND OF MISSING THE MARK. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S DATA WITH THE SURVEY BEING EXTENDED TO THEM, PLEASE. WE WILL LOOK INTO IT. THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CADENA, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO AGREE THAT THIS SURVEY IS SUPER HELPFUL.

I KNOW, I JUST BLOCK WALKED MOST OF MY DISTRICT, AND I HEARD SOME OF THE SAME THINGS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY, SIDEWALKS, SPEED REDUCTION BEING PRIORITIES.

SO IT'S GREAT THAT THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE SURVEY AS WELL.

AND ALSO MOST RECENTLY AS BEING AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, I WAS REALLY GLAD TO SEE THAT THE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION RATINGS WERE SO HIGH.

SO MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES GO ABOVE AND BEYOND.

I KNOW THEY HELPED ME IN MY JOB AND WOULD ANSWER ME AT ALL TIMES, A DAY OR NIGHT, WHENEVER WE NEEDED TO HELP A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES FOR THE CITY.

AND THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER TOLBERT, JUST FOR ALL OF THE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO TO HELP OUR EMPLOYEES SUCCEED.

THE LAST THING I WANTED TO KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO GET A BREAKDOWN OF THE SURVEY BY DISTRICT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEP. WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT.

WE DID CREATE SOME GIS MAPS. SHADED MAPS SHOW THE RESULTS BROKEN OUT BY DISTRICTS.

THAT'S FOR FOR THE QUESTIONS ASKED ON THAT FOUR POINT SCALE, ESPECIALLY.

BUT WE COULD DO THAT REALLY FOR EVERY QUESTION ON THE SURVEY.

SHOW THE RESULTS. YEAH. BROKEN OUT BY DISTRICT.

OKAY, GREAT. THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. THANKS. SURE.

COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. YES. THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT COUNCILWOMAN JUST SAID.

DO WE HAVE THAT DATA ON THE INSIDE? INSIDE OF THE CITY HALL? RIGHT. YEAH. WE'VE. SO RIGHT NOW, IT'S IN THE FORM OF THESE MAPS THAT SHOW SHADED RESULTS BY DISTRICT.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO UPDATE A DASHBOARD WHERE YOU CAN BREAK THE RESULTS OUT BY DISTRICT.

WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. USUALLY WE FINISH THIS REPORT FIRST AND WE UPDATE THE DASHBOARD EACH YEAR.

SO ALL OF THE INFORMATION WILL BE AVAILABLE THERE.

AS COUNCILWOMAN SAID, I WALKED VERY INTENSIVELY IN MY DISTRICT, AND I SERVED THIS PICTURE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS OVER ON PAGE NINE.

ONLY 24% OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN. AND THAT RESPONDED, AND I KNOW YOU SAID WAS SELECTIVELY TARGETED.

SO THAT WAS A CONCERN FOR ME WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS HOW DID THEY COME UP WITH A MATRIX TO TARGET? WHY WE ONLY GOT SO LITTLE RESPONSE. I THINK WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN MORE RESPONSE IF MOORE WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.

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IS IT ABOUT HOMES? IS IT ABOUT ADDRESSES? THOSE THAT YOU ACTUALLY SEE IS.

MY ADDRESS IS CORRECT. AND THE 24% OF ALL RESPONDENTS WHO ARE BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN, THAT DOES MATCH UP WITH THE US CENSUS.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO MADE SURE THAT DEMOGRAPHICS WITHIN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT MATCHED UP WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THAT COUNCIL DISTRICT.

SO THESE ARE THESE ARE JUST THE RESULTS FOR ALL 2200 COMPLETED SURVEYS.

BUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS BY DISTRICT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, TO MATCH UP WITH THAT DISTRICT JUST HAVE DISTRICT FORCE INTO MY OFFICE.

I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT ONE THING REALLY QUICKLY, AND ESPECIALLY IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ALREADY DONE IT. I WANT TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT SOCIAL SERVICES WAS RANKED AS THE THIRD HIGHEST PRIORITY BY OUR RESIDENTS, AND I THINK THAT THAT TELLS US SOMETHING.

PEOPLE ACROSS THE DALLAS RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR STRONGER SUPPORT SYSTEMS, WHETHER IT'S HOUSING ASSISTANCE OR PROGRAMS FOR YOUTH AND SENIORS.

SO IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT RESPONDING TO COMMUNITY INPUT AND BUILDING A SAFER AND MORE EQUITABLE CITY THAN WE CAN'T AFFORD TO TREAT SOCIAL SERVICES AS AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

THE DATA IS CLEAR. OUR RESIDENTS ARE ASKING US TO PRIORITIZE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, IF I MAY.

FOR ME, ATTRACTING AND RETAINING YOUNG FAMILIES IS A BIG PRIORITY OF MINE.

IT'S HOW OUR CITY IS GOING TO GROW. AND SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DALLAS, A PLACE TO RAISE CHILDREN, THERE'S ONLY 19% OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH KIDS UNDER 17 YEARS OF AGE.

AND SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW PERHAPS HOUSEHOLDS THAT DON'T HAVE CHILDREN MIGHT BE SKEWING THE THE DATA. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE CAN DO IS DO A CROSSTAB, JUST LIKE WE WOULD DO BY DISTRICT, BUT ALSO DO IT BY THE AGES. YEAH, THAT THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE USEFUL, ESPECIALLY FOR A QUESTION LIKE THAT, TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE FOR HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN VERSUS HOUSEHOLDS THAT DON'T HAVE CHILDREN.

AND THEN IT'S RELATIVELY EASY WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, HEY, WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR ROADS WHERE WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR LIBRARIES.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR CHILDREN, ARE THERE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET SO STAFF KNOWS THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE TO HAVE A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR, FOR FAMILIES, NOT SPECIFICALLY IN THAT PART OF THE SURVEY. I MEAN, IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE SURVEY, WE GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LIKE IN THE THERE'S A IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION SECTION, I BELIEVE THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS.

YOUTH RELATED. SAME THING, I THINK PROBABLY RELATED TO IN OTHER CITY SERVICES.

THERE'S A QUESTION JUST ABOUT YOUTH PROGRAMS. SO KIND OF SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT THE SURVEY, THERE ARE THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS. BUT IN THAT QUESTION, YOU'RE REFERRING TO DALLAS AS A PLACE TO RAISE CHILDREN.

IT'S REALLY JUST KIND OF ASKED AT A HIGH LEVEL LIKE THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND OBVIOUSLY HOMELESSNESS CONTINUES TO BE A TOP PRIORITY.

BUT I DO WANT TO THANK OUR CITY MANAGER FOR HER FOCUS IN, IN THAT AREA.

AND OBVIOUSLY STILL SOME GROWTH TO DO THERE, BUT THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, CITY MANAGER.

[C. 25-1941A Update on Sanitation Route Safety and Efficiency]

SAFETY CONCERNS AND UPDATED FINANCIAL AND SERVICE ANALYSIS.

THIS PRESENTATION WILL ALSO HIGHLIGHT SOME KEY POLICY CONSIDERATIONS WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL'S INPUT ON TODAY.

AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CLIFF TO START TODAY'S PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M CLIFF GILLESPIE, DIRECTOR OF SANITATION. JOINING ME TODAY.

TO MY RIGHT IS THE LIVERPOOL PORTFOLIO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ELENA SILKIN, AND TO MY LEFT, SANITATION ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TIFFANY BAPTISTE.

TODAY'S PRESENTATION PROVIDES AN UPDATE ON OUR CONTINUED WORK TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY OF REFUSE AND RECYCLING COLLECTION ACROSS DALLAS.

IT BUILDS ON THE BRIEFING I DELIVERED ONE YEAR AGO AND REFLECTS WHAT WE'VE LEARNED SINCE THEN, BOTH FROM OPERATIONAL AND FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND FROM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

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NEXT SLIDE. SO LET ME START WITH WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

SANITATION SERVES OVER 260,000 CUSTOMERS. THAT'S OVER 500,000 GARBAGE AND RECYCLING COLLECTION POINTS WEEKLY.

64% AT THE CURB AND 36% IN ALLEYS. OUR ALLEY CONDITIONS VARY WIDELY, AND THOSE CONDITIONS CONTRIBUTE TO HIGH MAINTENANCE COSTS, INCREASED EQUIPMENT DAMAGE, AND ELEVATED SAFETY RISKS.

LAST YEAR, I BRIEFED THE COUNCIL ON A PLAN TO BEGIN TRANSITIONING AWAY FROM ALL ALLEY SERVICE BEGINNING WITH THE MOST PROBLEMATIC AREAS.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS CHART SHOWS THE CURRENT DISTRIBUTION OF ALLEY AND CURB COLLECTION POINTS BY COUNCIL, DISTRICT, AND FURTHER BROKEN DOWN BY ALLEY PAVEMENT WIDTH, A KEY FACTOR IN HOW ACCESSIBLE AND SAFE THEY ARE FOR COLLECTION SERVICES.

NEXT SLIDE AND THE MAPS ON THIS SLIDE. IN THE NEXT PROVIDE A VISUAL OF HOW ALLEY SERVICE IS DISTRIBUTED CITY WIDE.

PINK REPRESENTS ALLEY SERVICE AREAS. BLUE CURBSIDE AREAS.

YOU'LL SEE ALI SERVICE IS HEAVILY CONCENTRATED IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY IN NORTHERN DALLAS.

NEXT SLIDE. AND NEXT SLIDE. SO THE ROOT OF OUR CHALLENGE BECOMES CLEAR WHEN YOU COMPARE OUR TWO COLLECTION METHODS. ALI PICKUP REPRESENTS A LEGACY APPROACH THAT PREDATES MODERN BEST PRACTICES, GENERALLY REQUIRING REAR LOAD TRUCKS WITH THREE PERSON CREWS. MEANWHILE, CURBSIDE SERVICE, THE CURRENT INDUSTRY STANDARD, USES AUTOMATED SIDE LOAD TRUCKS THAT ARE BOTH SAFER, MORE EFFICIENT, AND REQUIRING JUST ONE DRIVER.

OPERATOR. NEXT SLIDE. BUT OUR REAL CONCERN IS SAFETY.

IN NARROW ALLEYS, WE SEE ROUTINE EQUIPMENT DAMAGE THAT IS RUNNING IN EIGHT AND NINE FOOT ALLEYS.

CONTACT WITH FENCES, IS UTILITY POLES, OVERHEAD WIRES AND GAS METERS.

AND MORE TROUBLING ARE THE WORKER INJURIES AND NEAR-MISSES FOR ELECTROCUTION AND FIRES.

MANY OF THESE ALLEYS SIMPLY AREN'T SUITABLE FOR LARGE EQUIPMENT.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS VISUAL REINFORCES THAT POINT ALLEY COLLECTION, WHILE MAKING UP LESS THAN HALF OF ALL THE COLLECTION POINTS, REQUIRES MORE EQUIPMENT AND MORE PERSONNEL, WITH GREATER RISK AND LOWER EFFICIENCY.

NEXT SLIDE. OUR STRATEGIC DIRECTION OR OUR DIRECTION ON THIS MATTER IS GUIDED BY THE CITY'S LOCAL SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2022.

THE PLAN EXPLICITLY IDENTIFIES ALLEY COLLECTION AS LESS EFFICIENT AND MORE DAMAGING.

IT CALLS FOR REDUCING ALLEY SERVICE WHERE PROPERTIES ARE SUITED FOR CURBSIDE COLLECTION.

NEXT SLIDE. SINCE JUNE OF LAST YEAR, WE'VE PARTICIPATED IN NEARLY 300 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS AND COUNTLESS INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS. OUR TEAM HAS MET WITH RESIDENTS AT CIVIC MEETINGS, NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERINGS, AND THROUGH NUMEROUS OTHER TOUCHPOINTS. DURING MOST WEEKS AND MANY WEEKENDS DURING THE DAY AND IN THE EVENINGS ACROSS EVERY PART OF THE CITY.

NEXT SLIDE. AND WHAT WE HEARD WAS CLEAR THE VAST MAJORITY OF ALLEY CUSTOMERS OPPOSE MOVING FROM ALLEY TO CURBSIDE SERVICE.

THE MOST COMMON CONCERNS WERE PRACTICAL ONES NO FRONT DRIVEWAYS REQUIRING WHEELING CARTS ACROSS THEIR LAWNS.

STORAGE AND CART PLACEMENT CHALLENGES AND THE NEEDS OF ELDERLY AND DISABLED RESIDENTS.

NEXT SLIDE AND THE NEXT FEW SLIDES HERE SHOW SOME PHOTOS THAT ILLUSTRATE THE CONCERNS WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE ABSENCE OF THOSE FRONT DRIVEWAYS, SPACE LIMITATIONS, AND CART STORAGE ISSUES WITH CART PLACEMENT.

NEXT SLIDE. AND NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE CONCERNS SHAPED OUR APPROACH TO EVALUATING SOLUTIONS.

NEXT I'LL WALK THROUGH FOUR SCENARIOS DEVELOPED RANGING FROM MAINTAINING CURRENT SERVICE WITH EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS TO FULL CURB TRANSITION.

EACH WITH DIFFERENT TRADE OFFS BETWEEN SAFETY COST AND SERVICE IMPACT.

I'LL ALSO COVER TWO KEY POLICY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION CODIFYING MODIFIED ALLEY COLLECTION RULES AND THE POTENTIAL FOR A TIERED RATE

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SCENARIOS ONE THROUGH THREE WERE MODELED IN A FORMAL RATE STUDY, AND RANGED FROM RETAINING THE CURRENT SYSTEM WITH SMALLER EQUIPMENT TO A COMPLETE TRANSITION TO CURBSIDE SERVICE TO RETAINING SERVICE ONLY IN ALLEYS WITH TEN FOOT WIDE PAVEMENT OR GREATER.

SCENARIO. FOR WHAT WE CALL THE STAFF HYBRID APPROACH WAS DEVELOPED AFTER THE STUDY.

IT REFLECTS WHAT WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS AND THE COST REALITIES REVEALED IN THE DATA.

EACH SCENARIO REPRESENTS A DIFFERENT WAY OF BALANCING SERVICE, SAFETY AND COST.

SCENARIO ONE MAINTAINS ALLEY AND CURBSIDE SERVICE AS IT EXISTS TODAY, BUT REPLACES REAR.

LOAD TRUCKS WITH SMALLER VEHICLES TO IMPROVE ALLEY MANEUVERABILITY AND WORKER SAFETY.

HOWEVER, THIS WOULD REQUIRE AROUND 100 ADDITIONAL TRUCKS AND A CORRESPONDING INCREASE IN STAFFING.

IT IS NOT CONSIDERED OPERATIONALLY FEASIBLE BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE FACILITY SPACE TO STORE, MAINTAIN, OR DEPLOY A FLEET OF THAT SIZE. SCENARIO TWO FOLLOWS THE ORIGINAL 2024 PLAN TO TRANSITION ALL CUSTOMERS TO CURBSIDE.

THIS SCENARIO PROVIDES THE HIGHEST OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND LOWEST CITYWIDE FLAT RATE, BUT WOULD ELIMINATE ALL ALLEY SERVICE CITYWIDE.

SCENARIO THREE KEEPS ALLEY SERVICE ONLY WHERE THE PAVEMENT IS TEN FEET OR WIDER, WITH ALL OTHERS SHIFTING TO CURBSIDE.

AND FINALLY, SCENARIO FOUR DISCONTINUES ALLEY SERVICE WHERE EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS EXIST AND MOST HOMES HAVE FRONT DRIVEWAYS AS WELL AS IN DEAD END AND UNIMPROVED AND SEMI IMPROVED ALLEYS.

ALLEY SERVICE WOULD CONTINUE IN ALL OTHER LOCATIONS.

THIS SCENARIO IMPACTS THE FEWEST NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS OF ANY OF THE SCENARIOS INVOLVED IN AN ALLEY TO CURB TRANSMISSION.

NEXT SLIDE. HERE WE'VE SUMMARIZED THE MODELED MONTHLY RATE IMPACTS FOR SCENARIOS ONE THROUGH THREE, BASED ON OUR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL RATE OF 39. 73 PER MONTH.

THESE FIGURES ASSUME RAPID IMPLEMENTATION. IF PHASED IN, RATE IMPACTS COULD BE LESS IMMEDIATE.

SCENARIO ONE, WHICH MAINTAINS CURRENT ROUTING BUT USES SMALLER TRUCKS, SHOWS THE HIGHEST RATE INCREASE DUE TO ITS LABOR AND EQUIPMENT INTENSIVE MODEL.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT SCENARIO ONE DOES NOT FULLY CAPTURE THE CAPITAL COSTS REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT.

SO WHILE THIS RATE ACCOUNTS FOR 100 ADDITIONAL TRUCKS AND 300 ADDITIONAL LABOR, IT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION OF FLEET STORAGE AND MAINTENANCE INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE FACILITY CAPACITY TO SUPPORT THAT KIND OF SCALE UP.

THAT CONSTRAINT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS SCENARIO ONE IS NOT VIEWED AS OPERATIONALLY FEASIBLE.

SCENARIO TWO TRANSITIONS ALL CUSTOMERS TO THE CURB AND DELIVERS THE LOWEST OVERALL RATE, AND SCENARIO THREE, WHICH LIMITS ALLEY SERVICE TO TEN FOOT WIDE ALLEYS STILL INVOLVES FLEET CHANGES AND LANDS CLOSER TO SCENARIO ONE IN TERMS OF COST.

THESE FINDINGS HELPED INFORM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE STAFF HYBRID APPROACH, WHICH SEEKS TO REDUCE COST PRESSURES WHILE STILL RESPONDING TO OPERATIONAL CONSTRAINTS AND RESIDENT INPUT. AND I'LL WALK THROUGH THE ESTIMATED RATE IMPACTS FOR SCENARIO FOUR ON AN UPCOMING SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS TABLE COMPARES HOW EACH SCENARIO AFFECTS KEY OPERATIONAL FACTORS, FROM STAFFING AND SAFETY TO EQUIPMENT NEEDS AND OVERALL EFFICIENCY. NEXT SLIDE. AND HERE WE'VE OVERLAID SOME OF THE SPECIFIC METRICS USED IN THE OPERATIONAL REVIEW TO COMPARE OUTCOMES ACROSS SCENARIOS. NEXT SLIDE. SO IN SUMMARY THE RATE ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO OR LIMITING ALLY SERVICE TO ONLY TEN FOOT ALLEYS WOULD RESULT IN HIGHER COSTS FOR CUSTOMERS.

MEANWHILE, TRANSITIONING ENTIRELY TO THE CURB IS THE MOST EFFICIENT BUT ALSO THE MOST DISRUPTIVE AND UNPOPULAR.

A TIERED RATE MODEL WOULD ALSO BRING NEW ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLEXITY.

RESIDENTS MIGHT REQUEST CURBSIDE RATES DURING TEMPORARY ALLEY CLOSURES, SUCH AS CONSTRUCTION OR UTILITY REPAIRS, WHICH OFTEN LASTS FOR MONTHS OR BASED ON HOW THEY SET OUT THEIR CARTS.

THESE DISPUTES WOULD BE COMMON, AND MANAGING THEM WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

SO TAKEN TOGETHER, THE ANALYSIS LED US TO DEVELOP SCENARIO FOR A MORE PRACTICAL AND TARGETED PATH FORWARD.

NEXT SLIDE. WHICH BRINGS US TO THE STAFF HYBRID APPROACH RATHER THAN A BLANKET TRANSITION.

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NARROW EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS WHERE MOST HOMES ON EACH BLOCK HAVE FRONT DRIVEWAYS FOR RESIDENTS TO REASONABLY WHEEL THEIR CART ACROSS.

ALSO DIRT AND GRAVEL ALLEYS AND DEAD END ALLEYS GREATER THAN 200FT LONG.

NEXT SLIDE. EQUALLY IMPORTANT, THIS APPROACH MAINTAINS ALLEY SERVICE WHERE IT IS STILL REASONABLY SAFE AND EFFICIENT IN THOSE TEN FOOT AND GREATER ALLEYS THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE SANITATION EQUIPMENT.

AND WHILE NOT IDEAL IN NARROW EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS WHERE MOST HOMES LACK FRONT DRIVEWAY ACCESS, WHICH WOULD MAKE A TRANSITION TO CURBSIDE SERVICE MORE BURDENSOME FOR RESIDENTS IN LOCATIONS WHERE ALLEY SERVICE CONTINUES, WE WILL IMPLEMENT UPDATED CART PLACEMENT RULES TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND CONSISTENCY.

THIS INCLUDES INCREASED SPACING REQUIREMENTS FOR ROLL CARTS, WHICH MANY RESIDENTS CAN MEET BY PLACING CARTS IN THEIR ALLEY DRIVEWAYS, RATHER THAN DIRECTLY AGAINST FENCES. THESE CHANGES WILL MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE SAFETY FOR OUR WORKERS ON FOOT.

IN TIGHT ALLEY SPACES. AND SUPPORT MORE CONSISTENT USE OF AUTOMATED TRUCKS AND ALLEYS WHERE CONDITIONS ALLOW.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WILL REQUIRE STRONG PUBLIC AWARENESS, EFFORT AND A PERIOD OF EDUCATION AND ADJUSTMENT AS RESIDENTS ADAPT.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS TABLE BUILDS ON THE EARLIER COMPARISON BY ADDING A COLUMN FOR SCENARIO FOUR.

UNLIKE THE FIRST THREE SCENARIOS, SCENARIO FOUR WAS NOT MODELED AS PART OF THE FORMAL RATE STUDY.

THE RATE ESTIMATES SHOWN HERE WAS DEVELOPED INTERNALLY USING THE SAME GENERAL ASSUMPTIONS FOR CONSISTENCY.

SCENARIO FOUR RESULTS IN A MODERATE PROJECTED RATE COMPARED TO SCENARIOS ONE AND THREE, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT AVOIDS A LARGE EXPANSION OF FLEET AND STAFFING.

THE ESTIMATE PROVIDES A COMPARISON FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, AND A FULL ANALYSIS COULD BE COMPLETED AS PART OF A FUTURE RATE SETTING PROCESS.

NEXT SLIDE. THE TABLES ON THIS SLIDE IN THE NEXT SHOW.

HOW SCENARIO FOR WOULD AFFECT COLLECTION POINTS ACROSS EACH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

THE KEY FIGURES TO FOCUS ON ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK.

THESE REPRESENT THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS IN EACH DISTRICT WHO WOULD BE TRANSITIONED FROM ALLEY TO CURBSIDE COLLECTION UNDER THIS APPROACH.

NEXT SLIDE. AND NEXT SLIDE. AND THESE MAPS SHOW WHERE THOSE TRANSITIONS WOULD OCCUR.

RED LINES INDICATE BLOCKS CURRENTLY SERVED FROM ALLEYS WHERE MOST HOMES HAVE FRONT DRIVEWAYS.

NEXT SLIDE. THESE VISUALS ARE MEANT TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL SENSE OF WHERE THE AFFECTED AREAS ARE WITHIN YOUR DISTRICTS.

WE'LL PROVIDE MORE DETAILED STREET LEVEL MAPS FOR OPERATIONAL PLANNING AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

NEXT SLIDE. AND HERE WE OUTLINE OUR PROPOSED IMPLEMENTATION TIMELINE FOR THE REMAINDER OF 2025 WILL BE SPENT PREPARING FOR ROLLOUT, INCLUDING FINALIZING ROUTING LAUNCHING PUBLIC EDUCATION EFFORTS AND COORDINATING OUTREACH.

THE FIRST PHASE OF CURBSIDE TRANSITION WOULD BEGIN IN JANUARY OF 2026, AND ROLL OUT IN TWO PHASES TO ALLOW TIME FOR ADJUSTMENT.

NEXT SLIDE. AND THIS TABLE OFFERS A SIDE BY SIDE SUMMARY OF THE FOUR SCENARIOS, SHOWING THE CORE BENEFITS AND TRADE OFFS OF EACH.

THESE COMPARISONS HELP ILLUSTRATE WHY WE'RE ADVANCING.

SCENARIO FOUR. NEXT SLIDE. AND FINALLY, THERE ARE TWO IMPORTANT POLICY CONSIDERATIONS WHERE COUNCIL INPUT IS NEEDED.

FIRST, SHOULD THE CITY IMPLEMENT A TIERED RATE STRUCTURE FOR SANITATION CUSTOMERS CHARGING DIFFERENT RATES FOR ALLEY AND CURB COLLECTION? AS DISCUSSED EARLIER, THIS COULD BETTER REFLECT COST REALITIES, BUT INTRODUCES NEW ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLEXITIES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CAREFULLY MANAGED.

IF A TIERED RATE IS FAVORED, IT WOULD TAKE EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST, 2026, FOLLOWING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY'S NEW UTILITY BILLING SYSTEM IN FISCAL YEAR 2627. SECOND SHOULD MODIFIED ALI COLLECTION RULES BE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE? WHILE THE SANITATION DIRECTOR CAN PRESCRIBE ADMINISTRATIVE RULES RELATED TO CART PLACEMENT, A CITY CODE AMENDMENT WOULD SUPPORT CONSISTENT COMPLIANCE AND ALLOW FOR ENFORCEMENT WHERE ALLEY SERVICE CONTINUES.

YOUR INPUT ON THESE TWO ITEMS WILL HELP SHAPE HOW WE MANAGE SERVICE GOING FORWARD.

NEXT SLIDE. SO NEXT STEPS INCLUDE RECEIVING THE CITY COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK TODAY ON THE PLANNED PATH FORWARD, AND ON THE TWO KEY POLICY AREAS WE JUST COVERED.

PENDING THAT INPUT, WE WILL BEGIN PREPARING NOW FOR PHASED IMPLEMENTATION STARTING IN EARLY 2026.

BEGINNING WITH TARGETED OUTREACH, OPERATIONAL ADJUSTMENTS, AND STAFF TRAINING.

THROUGHOUT THAT PROCESS WILL REMAIN ENGAGED WITH COUNCIL OFFICES AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THAT THE TRANSITION IS THOUGHTFUL, TRANSPARENT AND WELL COMMUNICATED. AND THIS CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

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ALL RIGHT, MEMBERS FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS OR BOTH.

COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM C OF TODAY'S BRIEFING AGENDA.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ALLEYS, COMPARISON OF THE ALLEYS THAT ARE NARROW AND THOSE THAT ARE TEN FEET OR, OR WIDER ARE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHEN I LOOKED AT YOUR YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU IN THE PHASE AND SCENARIO FOR WHERE YOU'RE IN MY OPINION IS THE BEST SCENARIO.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT IN PHASE FOUR, YOU HAVING A HYBRID WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE, THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY HAVE ALLEYS SUPPORTIVE ENOUGH. ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT WE KEEP THAT? YES, MA'AM. EXACTLY. SO IN THIS SCENARIO, FOR ALL CUSTOMERS THAT ARE IN TEN FEET OR IN ALLEYS WHERE THE PAVEMENT IS TEN FEET OR WIDER, WE WOULD REMAIN NO CHANGES UNLESS THERE UNLESS THE SURFACE CONDITIONS, AS IN IT'S A DIRT OR GRAVEL ALLEY.

OTHERWISE ALL TEN FOOT ALLEYS WE STAY IN AND THEN THE EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS WE WOULD STAY IN THOSE WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES ON THE BLOCK DO NOT HAVE A FRONT DRIVEWAY. IN ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD, THE OBVIOUSLY NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION, BUT THE PRIMARY CONCERN THAT WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS WAS, WAS MY HOME IS NOT MADE FOR FRONT COLLECTION.

AND WHAT THEY MEAN BY THAT IS I DON'T HAVE A FRONT DRIVEWAY.

I DON'T HAVE A WAY TO GET MY CART TO THE CURB.

SO THIS SCENARIO ADDRESSES, ADDRESSES THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID NOT SEE IS THE, THE THE COMPARISON OR THE HOW TO APPROACH THOSE STREETS THAT MAY HAVE THE NARROW DRIVEWAYS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE NARROW STREETS AND THEY PARK IN THE FRONT, NOT IN THE BACK.

AND WHERE IS THE PLACEMENT OF THE THE TRASH CANS? AND HOW IS IT THAT AND AND IF WE CAN'T GET THROUGH A NARROW ALLEY, HOWARD, HOW IS THE MANEUVERABILITY OF THE TRASH TRUCK ON A NARROW STREET? YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WE WE DO HEAR THAT QUESTION QUITE A BIT.

AND I LIKE TO REMIND FOLKS THAT WE ALREADY SERVICE OR PROVIDE SERVICE AT THE CURB FROM 64% OF THE CITY.

AND WE DO WE WE DO HAVE SOME CHALLENGING STREETS TO GET THROUGH.

BUT OUR DRIVERS KNOW HOW TO DO THAT SAFELY. YOU KNOW, I ALSO REMIND FOLKS THAT IN AREAS WHERE WE'RE SERVING, PROVIDING SERVICE FROM THE ALLEYWAY. WE'RE STILL COMING THROUGH THERE ONCE A MONTH WITH OUR EVEN LARGER BRUSH AND BULKY ITEM COLLECTION EQUIPMENT.

SO IF THOSE TRUCKS CAN GET THROUGH OUR OUR GARBAGE TRUCKS CAN GET THROUGH.

ALSO ON STREET PARKING TENDS NOT TO BE A HUGE DEAL FOR US DURING THE WORKDAY WHEN MOST FOLKS ARE ARE AT WORK.

IT'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SHOWING UP EARLY IN THE MORNING OR, YOU KNOW, AFTER 5 P.M.

WHERE IT COULD BECOME A BIGGER, BIGGER ISSUE.

WELL, I'VE HEARD THAT IN, IN MY DISTRICT THAT THAT SOMETIMES EVEN WITH BULKY, IT DOESN'T GET PICKED UP BECAUSE THERE'S A CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF WHERE THEY PLACE THEIR, THEIR TRASH BINS WHEN THEIR CAR PARKED ON BOTH SIDES.

I HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT IS HEAVILY CAR CENTRIC AND THEY ARE ALWAYS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES.

SO HOW WOULD YOU MANAGE THOSE OCCURRENCES? SURE.

AGAIN, THE TRUCKS CAN GENERALLY GET THROUGH IF IF A BULKY ITEM OR A BULKY SET OUT IS BLOCKED.

YOU KNOW, WE COLLECT THOSE THOSE MATERIALS WITH AN AUTOMATED GRAPPLE ARM AND THE, THE ARM JUST, YOU KNOW, CAN'T GET AROUND A PARKED CAR. THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF GETTING USED TO.

SO EDUCATION IN ADVANCE OF THE TRANSITION COURTESY NOTICES FOLLOWING YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE ABLE TO IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THIS TRANSITION, YOU KNOW, WE WILL PROVIDE GO BACK SERVICE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS OUR SCHEDULE ALLOWS IN CERTAIN CASES. BUT I THINK MOST, MOST RESIDENTS IN AREAS WHERE WE SERVICE FROM THE CURB QUICKLY ADAPT TO HOW THEY HAVE TO PLACE THE CART AND THEIR NEIGHBORS, THE FOLKS THAT PARK ON THE STREET KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T BLOCK.

A ROLL CART PLACED OUT FOR COLLECTION. IN MY LAST QUESTION.

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AND WE HEARD FROM ALL OF THOSE RESIDENTS LAST YEAR WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.

I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A CHALLENGE AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED TO, TO TRY TO BE MORE SURGICAL WITH OUR APPROACH.

OUR BIGGEST, OUR, OUR BIGGEST ISSUES ARE THE EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS.

I OBVIOUSLY IDEALLY, THE THE MOST EFFICIENT SERVICE ACROSS THE BOARD IS TO PROVIDE IT FROM THE CURB.

BUT AGAIN, DALLAS MINI DALLAS NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE THESE REAR ENTRY ACCESS ONLY AREAS WHERE IT WOULD BE QUITE A CHALLENGE AT THIS TIME.

I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. HAVE WE CONSIDERED IF WE HAVE IF WE ARE ABANDONING ALLEYS THAT ARE NARROW, WE WE CAN'T OR THEY AND THEY HAVE FRONT PICK UP.

ANYHOW, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT LAND? DO WE. BECAUSE WHO'S.

THERE'S NO MANAGEMENT OF THOSE ALLEYS FROM THE CITY.

DO WE GIVE THAT LAND TO THE RESIDENTS OR WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT? SO I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. AND THEN IF ANYBODY ELSE FROM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WANTS TO ADD ON.

SO IN MOST ALLEYWAYS THERE ARE OTHER UTILITY SERVICES THAT ARE ARE GOING THROUGH BACK THERE.

SO WHETHER IT BE ENCORE OR AT&T OR ATMOS, THERE ARE OTHER UTILITIES IN MOST ALLEYWAYS THAT THAT THEY NEED TO TO GET THROUGH. AND RESIDENTS WILL STILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN UP TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE ALLEY.

SO I DON'T I WOULD NOT FORESEE A, YOU KNOW, AN ALL OUT ABANDONMENT OF, OF ALLEYWAYS.

SO THAT'S FROM MY, MY PERSPECTIVE. I KNOW THAT CODE WILL COME THROUGH AND, AND GIVE THOSE RESIDENTS SOME CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. AND COUNCIL MEMBER AND WELCOME.

YES. CODE COMPLIANCE WOULD STILL ISSUE NOTICES OF VIOLATION.

THE PROPERTY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE UP TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE ALLEY, AS CLIFF SAID, AND FAILED TO COMPLY WITH RESULTING CITATIONS AND ENFORCEMENT ESCALATION.

ADDITIONALLY, OUR NUISANCE ABATEMENT TEAM COULD ABATE THE VIOLATION AND WE COULD RECOVER THAT COST BY CLEANING THE PROPERTY.

LAURIE, WERE YOU WERE YOU DONE? YOU. PAUL RIDLEY IS NOT THE MODEL FOR THIS, GUYS.

YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, GIVE ME SOME INDICATION. I'M JUST KIDDING.

KATHY STEWART, MISS STEWART, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THIS WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HARDEST TOPICS FOR D10 EARLY ON IN MY TENURE.

SO MANY CALLS. THE LONGEST COMMUNITY MEETING EVER IS WHEN YOU HAVE IT IN AN ALLEY, BECAUSE YOU CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT IT AS YOU WALK ALL THE WAY DOWN THE ALLEY. AND CLIFF WAS A REAL WHAT DO I SAY? JUST A TEAM PLAYER ON THAT. THANK YOU FOR WALKING THAT ALLEY WITH ME ON THAT VERY HOT JUNE DAY.

THAT I DON'T THINK I'LL EVER FORGET THAT PART.

BUT LET ME LET ME PICK UP MY NOTES, BECAUSE I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR REFINED APPROACH.

AND IT MAY NOT SEEM REFINED FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE HEARING IT OR DEALING WITH THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME BY LOOKING AT THE ALLEY AND CURBSIDE TRASH PICKUP AND LOOKING AT IT AND REALIZING OUR MOST NARROW ALLEYS WERE REALLY THE ISSUE.

YOUR APPROACH IS RESPONSIVE AND WELL THOUGHT OUT, AND IT'S IT'S THE MODIFIED ALLEY COLLECTION APPROACH THAT I THINK WILL IMPACT THE FEWER FEWEST NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS. AND AND THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED, BECAUSE WHAT BECAME VERY CLEAR IN THE DISCUSSION IS THAT THE ALLEY THAT IS THE MOST CHALLENGING FOR THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT IS THE EIGHT FOOT WIDE ALLEY BECAUSE THE TRUCKS ARE NINE FOOT WIDE.

AND SO WHEN YOU DO WALK THOSE ALLEYS, YOU SEE THE RUTS AND THE HOLES AND THE CONDITION OF THE ALLEYS, AND IT'S NOT GOOD. AND YOU DO HAVE TO TOW THOSE SANITATION TRUCKS OUT OF THOSE ALLEYS AT TIMES.

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SO I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT WHERE YOU WERE HEADED WHEN YOU WANTED TO MOVE MOST EVERYTHING TO CURBSIDE FROM ALLEY.

BUT I ALSO THEN APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THAT YOU WERE WILLING TO LISTEN TO HOW MUCH OF A DISRUPTION THIS IS.

I'VE LIVED IN BOTH HOUSES IN BOTH SCENARIOS FOR 20 YEARS.

I LIVED IN A HOUSE THAT WAS FRONT ENTRY FLAT, ROLLED MY CART OUT IN THE MORNING, ROLLED IT BACK IN THE AFTERNOON.

ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES EVER. IT WAS GREAT. BUT THEN I MOVED TO A HOUSE WITH AN ALLEY AND A TIERED FRONT YARD.

AND ROB AND I WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND GO, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT BEND DOWN THERE AND THEN BACK UP BECAUSE IT WAS ON A HILL.

SO I THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THAT I THINK YOU ARE FACTORING IN THAT THERE ARE HOMES WHERE IT IS A PRETTY SIMPLE PROCESS TO PICK IT UP ON THE CURB, BUT ARE THERE ARE MANY HOMES WITH THE OTHER SCENARIO.

AND FORTUNATELY, THAT HAS WORKED OUT THAT SOME OF THE ONES WHO ARE ON THE HILLS HAVE THE TEN FOOT WIDE ALLEY.

SO IT'S OKAY OPERATIONALLY TO DO THAT. SO I KNOW THIS IS A HARD TRANSITION FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

AND THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, I'LL HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE AND ALLEYS YET TO WALK.

I WON'T ASK YOU TO COME ANY MORE, CLIFF. THANK YOU.

YOU'LL HAVE ENOUGH TO DO. BUT BUT MOSTLY, I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AND TO REALLY DIG IN AND TO LISTEN TO OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT, RIGHT THERE. MISS WILLIS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT THAT'S GONE BACK INTO THIS AFTER WE ASKED YOU ALL TO, YOU KNOW, EXPLORE MORE THAT IT WASN'T AS EASY AS JUST, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS CHANGE BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE EMOTIONAL TOPICS, I THINK, THAT EXISTS IN THE CITY. WE'VE ALL LEARNED, BUT I HAD VIEWED THIS AS AN OBJECTIVE OF IF SOMEONE WANTS TO KEEP THEIR ALLEY SERVICE, HOW DO WE GET TO THEY CAN DO THAT, WHETHER IT IS BY EXPLORING, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S COST RECOVERY AND IT COSTS MORE TO KEEP THE ALLEY SERVICE BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S THREE EMPLOYEES TO ONE EMPLOYEE AND THE EQUIPMENT, ETC., YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM THAT OPTION. AND THEN OR IS IT MODIFYING THEIR FENCE OR WHERE THEY PUT A BIN? I MEAN, HOW CAN WE BE AS ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE TO THEM? SO ONE QUESTION. I KNOW YOU TOUCHED ON IT, BUT I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT TRUCK SIZE.

AND SO YOU EXPLORED IT IN A SCENARIO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SHARED SOME HISTORY WITH ME ABOUT WHY DID WE EVER GO TO A BIGGER TRUCK IN THE FIRST PLACE? BECAUSE EVERYONE'S LIKE, WE'LL JUST GET A SMALLER TRUCK AND THAT SOLVES EVERYTHING. YES, MA'AM.

SO IT IS A IT'S A VERY INTERESTING HISTORY. AND ONE OF THE COMMON THINGS THAT WE HEAR FROM FOLKS IS, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING NOW? THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT JUST HAPPENED OVERNIGHT.

THERE IS A LONG HISTORY ASSOCIATED WITH IT, PARTICULARLY THE EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS WHICH YOU FIND IN A LOT OF OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO AND THE TRANSITION THAT THE, THE, THE TIPPING POINT OR THE TRANSITION TIME WAS AROUND THE LATE 1970S, EARLY 80S WHEN UP UNTIL 1976 COMMERCIAL VEHICLES COULD ONLY BE UP TO EIGHT FEET WIDE. AND IT'S NO COINCIDENCE THAT OUR ALLEYS ARE EIGHT FEET WIDE.

AROUND THAT TIME AS WELL. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS PUTTING NEW LAWS INTO PLACE RELATED TO SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT AND LANDFILLS UP UNTIL THAT TIME.

SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD GARBAGE TRUCKS WERE HAULING WASTE DOWN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DUMP.

1980 MCCOMAS BLUFF OPENED IN FAR SOUTHERN SOUTHEAST DALLAS.

SO THE TRIPS GOT LONGER. AND IN 1982 FEDERAL COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE REGULATIONS CHANGED TO ALLOW TRUCKS TO BE EVEN WIDER. 8.5FT WIDE. AND AT THAT TIME, TRUCK MANUFACTURERS STARTED MAKING TRUCKS BIGGER TO ACCOMMODATE LARGER PAYLOADS. SO THEN WE SEE IN THE 1990S THAT TRANSITION AS TRUCKS ARE GETTING WIDER.

DALLAS DALLAS IS BUYING BIGGER TRUCKS. AND THEN IN LATE 1990S, YOU SEE THE FIRST NEWS ARTICLES IN THE IN THE MORNING NEWS MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT SANITATION HAVING TROUBLE IN THE ALLEYWAYS.

THAT'S WHEN WE FIRST START SEEING COMMENTS ABOUT ISSUES IN THE ALLEYWAYS.

AND IT ALL AND EVERY SENATOR, MANY SANITATION DIRECTORS BEFORE ME IN THAT TIME PERIOD HAVE, YOU KNOW, DEALT WITH THIS ISSUE. SO I'M NOT SURE IF I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT I GAVE YOU A LONG STORY.

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IT'S MORE EFFICIENT. SO BUT TO CONVERT TO SMALLER TRUCKS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU EXPLORED THAT.

SO I MEAN, THAT'S BUYING NEW FLEETS AND THAT'S A BIG EXPENSE.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MONTHLY COST, I MEAN, $80, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT MAY BE TOO MUCH FOR SOME PEOPLE TO BITE OFF.

AND SO. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THAT WILL HELP ME.

I MEAN, IF YOU NOTICED ON THE CHART, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A LOT MORE OF.

I WILL BE AFFECTED A LOT MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE WILL.

BUT BUT THAT BEGINS TO ANSWER. IT WOULD CREATE AN ENORMOUS INVESTMENT AND THAT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY.

AND I GUESS THAT HELPS SOMEONE FACTOR IN HOW THEY MAY FEEL ABOUT THIS.

BUT ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE. I MEAN, YOU SHOW A PICTURE OF A HOUSE WITH PRETTY LANDSCAPING AND YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO DRAG THIS BIN THROUGH THAT.

BUT I MEAN, THE REALITY OF WHAT I'M EXPERIENCING IS SOMETIMES TREES WERE PLANTED WHEN A HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1964, AND IT'S ABOUT ROOTS AND OTHER THINGS. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE.

IT'S JUST ABOUT THE YARD ITSELF AND THE DIFFICULTY IN GETTING SOMETHING TO THE CURB.

BUT I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. SO AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE COME UP WITH A HYBRID OPTION TO ACCOMMODATE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BLOCKS WITH MAJORITY FRONT DRIVEWAYS THAT DON'T AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME STILL DON'T HAVE A DRIVEWAY AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM, WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT MAJORITY THRESHOLD? I MEAN, I'D HATE TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, 51% IF A BLOC HAS 51% FRONT DRIVEWAYS, IT'S JUST DONE FOR YOU.

I MEAN, I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR THOSE BLOCKS TO BE ABLE TO SAY, LET'S LOOK AT HOW WE CAN ACCOMMODATE WITH MOVING A FENCE OR HAVING A BIN AND A DRIVEWAY.

SO IT'S NOT A THREAT TO THE SAFETY. HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THAT THRESHOLD WOULD BE? OR I COULD JUST GIVE YOU AN IDEA. 51%. SO WE SPENT SOME TIME WITH THAT QUESTION.

AND THE THRESHOLD SET IS AT 60%, NOT 50%. SO WE 50% WAS VIEWED AS BEING TWO RIGHT ON THE LINE AND LEAVING ROOM FOR INTERPRETATION. AND LOTS OF QUESTIONS FROM RESIDENTS ON THE BLOCK. 60% WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE IT PROVIDED A CLEAR A CLEAR MAJORITY.

AND IT ALSO WORKED OUT TO WHERE FOR THOSE BLOCKS THAT ARE AFFECTED ONLY ON AVERAGE 1 OR 2 HOMES ON A BLOCK MAY BE AFFECTED WITH NOT HAVING A FRONT DRIVEWAY.

SO WHEN WE BEGAN THE SURVEY, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE A STREET AND YOU SEE ALL THE FRONT DRIVEWAYS AND YOU ASSUME EVERY EVERY HOUSE ON THE BLOCK DOES WELL.

WE KEPT LOOKING AROUND AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE ARE LOTS OF AREAS WHERE FOR WHAT? FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER, 1 OR 2 HOUSES ON A BLOCK OF SIX TO 8 TO 10 HOMES DOESN'T HAVE A FRONT DRIVEWAY.

SO ACTUALLY, I MISSPOKE. I MEANT 90%, 90%. WELL, AGAIN, IF WE CHANGING THE NUMBER UP THAT HIGH WIPES OUT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE ALLEYWAYS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.

SO WE'RE TALKING IN TOTAL ABOUT 7% OF THE TOTAL CUSTOMERS AFFECTED.

SO THIS SCENARIO FOR AFFECTS ABOUT 30,000 CUSTOMERS.

IT'S ABOUT 7% THAT DO NOT HAVE FRONT DRIVEWAYS, WHICH WE ALREADY SEE THAT IN AREAS AROUND THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE CURBSIDE COLLECTION.

THERE ARE HOMES THAT DON'T HAVE FRONT DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE GETTING THEIR CARS TO THE CURB.

SO THIS ISN'T AN UNPRECEDENTED CHANGE THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

AND WE DO HAVE CART ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FOR OUR RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT PHYSICALLY ABLE TO GET THE CART TO THE CURB.

IT'S OUR HELPING HANDS PROGRAM. IT'S AT NO ADDITIONAL COST.

AND FOR RESIDENTS THAT DON'T QUALIFY FOR THAT PROGRAM, THAT JUST SIMPLY WANT THAT ELEVATED SERVICE, WE OFFER THE SAME THING FOR FOR A PREMIUM FEE.

SO I WOULD STILL SAY THAT IF IT'S AT 60%, THAT'S 40% OF A BLOCK THAT IS STILL GOING TO GO THROUGH THE SAME KIND OF INCONVENIENCE.

IF THERE'S THERE ARE OTHERS WHO, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ON THEIR BLOCK OR THEY DON'T HAVE AS, AS MANY WILL HAVE THAT INCONVENIENCE. SO, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY THIS GOES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT NUMBER AT LEAST RISE OR MAYBE BE PHASED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THIS IS JUST THE WAY THESE HOMES WERE BUILT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN ONE MYSELF. I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NOT THERE'S JUST NOT A ROUTE.

BUT TO HAVE SOMEONE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO ACCOMPLISH GETTING THAT TO THE CURB.

EVEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN GET A SMALLER BIN OR YOU CAN GET SOMEONE TO HELP YOU OR WHERE DOES IT LIVE DURING THE DAY? I MEAN, SOME OF THE HOMES JUST WEREN'T REALLY BUILT TO EVEN HAVE ANY KIND OF ACCOMMODATION THERE. SO I'M JUST REALLY SENSITIVE TO WHAT THIS DOES TO SOME WHO JUST THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS WHEN THEIR HOUSE WAS WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT, AND IN SOME CASES THEY WERE THE FIRST OWNER.

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AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ABRUPT CHANGE. SHOULD THIS GO THROUGH? THANK YOU. MR. ROTH, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON AGENDA ITEM A BRIEFING ITEM C.

THANK YOU. THIS. I REPRESENT DISTRICT 11. THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK IN OUR DISTRICT AT ALL.

WE HAVE 80% OF OUR PEOPLE HAVE ALI. ALI PICKUP.

AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT IT. AND AND IT'S NOT FAIR.

THE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE THIS IS A BASIC SERVICE THAT PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR, THEY EXPECTED AND THEY DESERVE.

AND TO PENALIZE A PERSON NUMBER ONE, PHYSICALLY TO FORCE THEM TO MOVE TO THE CURB WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE FACILITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY IS, I THINK DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

I THINK TO ALSO PENALIZE THEM MONETARILY TO, TO CHARGE A PERSON MORE FOR HAVING A SERVICE THAT THEY EXPECTED AND THAT THEY'VE HAD ALL THESE YEARS IS ABSOLUTELY IMPROPER.

AND I THINK IT'S IT'S THE WRONG ATTITUDE FOR THE CITY TO BE PROVIDING THAT KIND OF A, OF A CHANGE IN THE RULES TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN PLAYING BY THE RULES AND HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.

THOSE ALLEYS HAVE NOT BEEN MAINTAINED. AND IF IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT, SHAME ON US AS A CITY.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE USING THOSE ALLEYS, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THERE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THERE. THE FACT THAT WE CHANGED THE SIZE OF THE TRUCKS IS OUR FAULT, NOT THE PERSON WHO LIVES THERE. AND I REALLY FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THIS SENDS A TERRIBLE MESSAGE FOR FOR THE CITY TO TO TAKE A A WHOLE COMMUNITY OF MAJOR, MAJOR PEOPLE, A LOT OF LOT OF HOMES, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN THEIR HOMES AND SEND THE MESSAGE THAT WE DON'T RESPECT AND WE DON'T MAINTAIN AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HONOR THE CONTRACT THAT WE MADE WITH THEM WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSES.

AND I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THIS, THAT THE CURRENT SITUATION REMAIN THE WAY IT IS AND THAT THERE BE NO CHANGES, ESPECIALLY IN OUR PARTICULAR DISTRICT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M SORRY YOUR MIC WASN'T ON. WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT.

COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I'M JUST KIDDING. WE HEARD IT.

WE HEARD IT LOUD AND CLEAR. MISS BLACKMAN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. AGENDA ITEM C, I'M BRIEFING ITEM C.

THANK YOU. AND CLIFF AND GANG, THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS BACK.

I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS, AND SO I THINK I MADE THE COMMENT, WHEN YOU START TALKING TRASH, EVERYBODY SHOWS UP BECAUSE I TOO HAD ABOUT 200 PEOPLE IN A ROOM.

AND WHAT? LET ME JUST SAY, I APPLAUD YOU GUYS FOR ACTUALLY GOING VERY SCALPEL.

BECAUSE WE DID A SHOTGUN APPROACH AND YOU HEARD AND WE MET AND HAD MEETINGS AND YOU CAME IN WITH A A BETTER WAY TO LOOK AT IT.

SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. AND WE HAD OUR WE DISCUSSED THIS.

I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING WHEN YOU SEE THE VIDEOS OF SOMEBODY GETTING HARMED AND, AND THE WAY OUR CITY WAS DEVELOPED DURING THE TIME FRAMES OF, OF THE 60S OR THE 50S AND 60S, EVEN EARLIER THAN THAT. AND SOME OF THE, THE INNER LOOP AREAS.

I JUST FEEL THAT THIS IS A IT'S GOING TO BE A HARD EXERCISE AGAIN, BECAUSE IT IS CHANGING PEOPLE'S HABITS.

AND IT'S ALSO BASICALLY EDUCATING THEM. SO I'M GOING ON I'M LOOKING AT YOUR NEXT STEPS AND YOU SAY A PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL PROCESS. WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? IN OTHER WORDS, ARE WE DOING ANOTHER 200 MEETING GROUP? NO, MA'AM. FROM FROM HERE, WE WOULD BEGIN TARGETED OUTREACH TO THOSE AFFECTED CUSTOMERS THROUGH DIRECT MAIL, EMAIL ALL THE ALL THE MECHANISMS THAT THE CITY HAS TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR RESIDENTS.

SO FAR AS PUTTING STICKERS ON ROLL CARS, NOTIFYING THEM OF OF THE CHANGE AND AND THE EFFECTIVE DATE.

AND YOU'LL ONLY BE NOTIFYING THOSE THAT ARE AFFECTED.

CORRECT. AND SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR ALLEYWAY? YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING IT ANYMORE AND IT'S NOT USED FOR THEM TO COME THROUGH.

YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR USE. BECAUSE FOR ONE. SO I'M JUST WONDERING I'M JUST CURIOUS ON WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THE ALLEYWAY NOW? SO AGAIN, MOST IN MANY ALLEYWAYS, THERE ARE OTHER UTILITY SERVICES THAT ARE, ARE, ARE IN THE ALLEYWAY OR

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SO THE ALLEYWAYS WOULD BE THERE FOR THOSE PURPOSES.

EVEN THOUGH THE TARGETED AREAS ARE WHERE WE HAVE FRONT DRIVEWAYS.

MANY RESIDENTS STILL, FOR ONE REASON OR THE OTHER, STILL HAVE ACCESS OR ARE STILL DOING SOMETHING BACK THERE.

WE OBSERVE THAT FREQUENTLY. OKAY. IN IN THOSE ALLEYWAYS.

SO ALSO, AS CHRIS CHRISTIAN MENTIONED EARLIER THE RESIDENTS ARE STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT PROPERTY.

SO AND THERE IS A VARIATION BETWEEN SOME ALLEYWAYS BEING CITY RIGHT OF WAY AND SOME BEING JUST A UTILITY EASEMENT.

AND BEING THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND PROPERTY.

OKAY. SO YEAH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF WE WERE GOING TO.

DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE? WE WERE JUST SAYING ALSO, AND THERE'S SOME CASES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS AS WELL, THAT THE ALLEYS MAY BE BE USED. WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT BECAUSE IT COULD BECOME I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO THINK FORWARD AND MAYBE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT THEIR ALLEYWAYS NOW.

AND SO I JUST FEEL THAT THAT COULD BE ADDED INTO THE CONVERSATION.

YES, MA'AM. I KNOW WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, USING IT AS A TRAIL SYSTEM. AND I THINK DURING COVID, SOME MINE IN EAST DALLAS BECAME THAT AS A WAY TO CONNECT TO THE, YOU KNOW, WALKING SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ON A MAJOR ROAD.

SO I THINK IT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY I GET, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAKE LEMONADE OUT OF LEMONS.

AND SO SO WILL YOU LET US KNOW WHEN YOU START NOTIFYING PEOPLE? BECAUSE I THINK I'M SECOND THERE WITH YOU, MISS WILSON.

WITH WILLIS. I'M I'M AT 6000, SO I THINK WE'RE UP THERE IN THE BIG ONES.

AND AND I SAW THE MAP, AND I KNOW THOSE AREAS.

AND SO YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT.

AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD MIDDLE GROUND BECAUSE FROM WHAT THE CONVERSATION WE HAD A YEAR AGO, AND IT MAY BE MORE PAINFUL, IT'LL BE PAINFUL BEFORE WE GET TO TO THE THE THE BETTER PART OF THIS.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP OUR EMPLOYEES SAFE. WE GOT TO KEEP PROPERTY SAFE.

I THINK WE'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF FENCES DOWN IN MY DISTRICT.

AND SO AND WE GOT TO MAINTAIN THE FLEET AND EQUIPMENT AND SO, ANYWAY THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING.

THANK YOU. MISTER GRACEY. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I SEE. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR. JUST JUST REALLY QUICK, I THINK I HAVE SO WITH THE AND I GUESS IT'S, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THE NINE FOOT ALLEYS.

WOULD THEY STILL BE, I GUESS, MAINTAINED AND A PART OF THE BOND PROGRAMS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS WITH ALL OF WOULD ALL OF THAT STILL BE A PART OF THE PROCESS? THAT IS A I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF WE HAVE EITHER PUBLIC WORKS OR BOND OFFS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH THOSE THAT QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, DOCTOR CARLY'S COMING UP.

HELLO. HEY, GUYS. CARLY, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS.

THIS IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE WILL NEED TO HAVE ESPECIALLY ON THE PUBLIC ALLEYS TO SEE WHETHER WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE UPKEEP AND AND IF WE DO. HOW MUCH? SO IT IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE WITH THE WITH THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT.

OKAY. THAT THAT THAT IS CONCERNING, BECAUSE ON ONE HAND, WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

ON THE OTHER HAND, WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO WHAT THE RESIDENTS WILL DO THERE.

SO I DO WANT TO JUST PUT A NOTE IN THAT PIECE.

MODIFIED RULES ON SLIDE 24. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS SO THAT THIS MODIFIED RULE, AS IT SAYS, FOR WHERE TO GO, CONTINUING TO, TO RECEIVE ALI.

SO THIS IS FOR ALI THAT ARE TEN FEET WIDE. THESE ARE THE THE NEW RULES OR SOMETHING, CORRECT.

FOR THOSE FOR ALL THE ALI'S THAT WE REMAIN IN WE WOULD BE SEEKING JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL SPACE FROM WHAT THE CURRENT REGULATIONS REQUIRE RIGHT NOW, MANY RESIDENTS ARE PUTTING THOSE CARTS UP AGAINST THE FENCE.

THE RULE IS A FOOT AND A HALF WHICH IN A LOT OF THOSE NARROW ALLEYS THAT WE'LL BE PULLING OUT OF, THERE'S JUST NOT THE NOT THE SPACE TO TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.

WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT WITH THE LOCATIONS THAT WE'RE MOVING TO THE CURB.

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ONE OF THE MAJOR SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IS OUR TRUCKS MOVING THROUGH THE ALLEY WITH THE WORKERS ON FOOT AT THE BACK OF THE TRUCK.

THEY'RE TRYING TO MANEUVER THOSE CARTS BETWEEN THE TRUCK, THE FENCE, AND THEY ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.

IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR FOR WORKERS TO BECOME PINNED IN THOSE SITUATIONS.

AND BAD THINGS HAPPEN. NO, I CAN APPRECIATE. I'M JUST I GET THE THE REASON FOR IT AND ALL OF THAT.

IS IT GOING TO BE A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T GET MY TRASH PICKED UP BECAUSE I DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE TO.

AND. WELL, LET ME STOP THERE. THIS WILL BE PART OF THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN AND AS WELL AS EVEN ONCE THE NEW RULE WOULD GO INTO EFFECT, A PERIOD OF WARNINGS OR NOTICES OF VIOLATION TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AND TIME TO COMPLY IF THEY IF THEY DO CHOOSE OR HAVE TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS AT THE REAR OF THEIR HOME.

THEM GETTING THEIR TRASH PICKED UP OR NOT? I THINK WE HAVE DIFFERENT TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US IN TERMS OF COMPLIANCE OR ENFORCEMENT TO, TO BE ABLE TO STILL PICK UP THE TRASH. YOU KNOW, I CAN I CAN SET RULES.

BUT MY, MY AUTHORITY AS DIRECTOR IS LIMITED. WE ONE OF THE POLICY QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL IS WHETHER OR NOT THOSE MODIFIED REQUIREMENTS SHOULD BE AMENDED INTO THE CITY CODE, WHICH COULD GIVE US THE TOOLS TO YOU KNOW, ISSUE A CITATION, A CIVIL CITATION OR A CRIMINAL CITATION, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE TO TO SEEK COMPLIANCE.

YEAH, WE'LL DO THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, WE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I KNOW IT'S CAN'T BE AN EASY ONE UP THERE. THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH IT.

THIS IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE A CONVERSATION WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE HAD YEARS AGO IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BE IN A BETTER SPACE.

OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCY, EMPLOYEE SAFETY, EQUIPMENT SAFETY, PRIVATE PROPERTY SAFETY AND COST RECOVERY.

QUESTION FOR THOSE ALLEYS THAT ARE STILL KIND OF IN LIMBO.

WAS THAT 8FT OR 9FT? ALLEY EIGHT AND NINE. SO THOSE THAT ARE EIGHT AND NINE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A THRESHOLD. I HAVE SOME CONCERN.

CHARGING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS FOR FAMILIES THAT MIGHT BE ON A FIXED INCOME OR THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT BE SENIORS.

AND IF THEIR BLOCKS HAPPEN TO BE OPT IN. WHAT KIND OF SERVICES ARE WE GOING TO BE PROVIDING FOR THOSE IN THOSE HOUSEHOLDS THAT THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE A BIG INCONVENIENCE.

FIRST, I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS A QUESTION THAT WE'VE WE'VE PUTTING BEFORE THE BODY IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD TIER THE RATE, CHARGE A HIGHER RATE FOR ALLEY CUSTOMERS VERSUS CURBSIDE CUSTOMERS.

THE SANITATION RATE IS SET ANNUALLY AND ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL AS PART OF THE THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

THE CERTAINLY SCENARIOS ONE AND THREE THAT WE COVERED WITH THOSE VERY HIGH RATES LED US TO TO SEE WHAT OTHER OPTIONS WERE OUT THERE.

SHOULD SHOULD THE COUNCIL DECIDE TO IMPLEMENT A TIERED RATE? THIS FOURTH SCENARIO CLOSES THE GAP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BETWEEN THE, THE DIFFERENT SERVICE TYPES ALI AND CURB. THERE'S IT DOES NOT INVOLVE THE TRANSITION OR ADDITIONS OF EQUIPMENT AND PERSONNEL.

AS THE OTHER SCENARIOS WOULD. IT'S A $5, 5 TO $6 DIFFERENCE, AT LEAST IN THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED AT THIS POINT.

SO AGAIN, WE RECOGNIZE THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALLEY SERVICE DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU CAN AFFORD A HIGHER, A HIGHER RATE. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WE WERE LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE COULD PROVIDE THE SERVICE, THE UTILITY SERVICE IN AS UNIFORM MANNER STILL AS POSSIBLE.

SO WHAT I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALI AND CUR PICKUP FOR THOSE THAT ARE CHOOSING TO OPT IN, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT WITH OUT OF REACH FOR THOSE FAMILIES THAT JUST AREN'T ABLE TO TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, THE ROLLOUT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO NOTIFY COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED.

AND IF I CAN JUST GO BACK AND CLARIFY BECAUSE YOU HAD SAID OPT IN.

IT'S NOT OPT IN OR OPT OUT. IT'S BASED ON THE CONFIGURATION OF YOUR OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR BLOCK.

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WE WILL PUBLISH ONLINE THE INTERACTIVE MAP SHOWING WHAT AREAS ARE AFFECTED.

SO RESIDENTS, OUR CUSTOMERS CAN GO ONLINE AND SEE IF THEY'RE AFFECTED OR NOT.

THEY'LL BE PROVIDED A LINK OR A MEANS TO COMMUNICATE WITH US IN THE EVENT THAT THEY BELIEVE THERE'S SOME FACTUAL ERROR IN THE DATA THAT WE'VE USED TO CALCULATE THEIR, THEIR LOCATION, OR IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER LEGITIMATE HAZARDS THAT MAY BE THERE FOR THAT BLOCK THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE US AWARE OF FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. AND THEN WE WOULD BEGIN DIRECT MAIL TO THE AFFECTED CUSTOMERS, SOMETHING PHYSICAL IN THEIR MAILBOX, IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER WAYS THAT THE CITY COMMUNICATES WITH CUSTOMERS ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, FROM EMAIL AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE NEWSLETTERS THAT YOU ALL SEND OUT, WE'RE LOOKING AT PLACING STICKERS ON THE CARTS OF THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS, SO IT'S RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THEM EVERY WEEK. UP UNTIL THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE TRANSITION.

SO THOSE ARE ALL THE WAYS WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING TO COMMUNICATE.

THANK YOU. WHEN WE FIRST DALLAS FIRST STARTED OFFERING GARBAGE SERVICE IN THE MODEL THAT WE'RE USING TODAY WAS ONE RECEPTACLE FOR GARBAGE.

WE'VE SINCE ADDED RECYCLING, AND WE'RE POSSIBLY CONSIDERING ADDING A THIRD FOR BRUSH OR CLIPPINGS.

HOW MUCH MORE DIFFICULT WOULD THAT BE? ADDING A THIRD RECEPTACLE TO AN ALLEYWAY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS SOME CITIES PROVIDE A THIRD CART FOR ORGANIC MATERIAL, WHETHER IT BE YARD WASTE OR OR FOOD WASTE. WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS FOR FOR WASTE DIVERSION IN THE CITY. MANY CITIES, AND I THINK I'M NOT, I'M NOT.

I'M JUST SPEAKING SORT OF OFF THE CUFF ON THIS, BUT ONE WAY THAT CITIES ACCOMPLISH THIS IS ALTERNATING WEEKS BETWEEN RECYCLED COLLECTION AND ORGANIC YARD WASTE COLLECTION, SO THAT AT ANY GIVEN WEEK, YOU'RE ONLY TAKING TWO CARS TO THE CURB.

SO THE AMOUNT OF RECYCLABLE MATERIAL COLLECTED EACH WEEK STILL ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.

IT'S JUST IT'S YOU'RE CHANGING THE PICKUP FREQUENCY.

SO THAT'S ONE WAY WE COULD DO IT. TO KEEP JUST TWO, HAVING TO WHEEL OUT TWO CARTS AT A TIME.

THANK YOU. LAST QUESTION IS JUST A SUGGESTION.

I'M NOT SURE IF Y'ALL EVER HAVE LOOKED INTO THIS OR NOT.

BUT PERHAPS HAVING LOOKING AT HAVING ALL THE RECYCLING AND ALL GARBAGE ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE STREET ON ODD OR EVEN NUMBERS, AND HOW THAT WOULD REDUCE THE NOT THE TIMES OF GOING UP AND DOWN ONE ONE BLOCK.

SO Y'ALL COULD LOOK INTO THAT. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. GOOD SUGGESTION. MR. JOHNSON, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM C.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ASKED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

I WAS LISTENING TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBER PAULA BLACKMAN.

THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT MY COMMUNITY IN A MAJOR WAY.

SOME IN MY COMMUNITY WILL BE OKAY BECAUSE THEY ALREADY USE THE SIDEWALK.

BUT THERE ARE SOME SENIOR CITIZEN, OTHERS NEIGHBORHOODS THAT USE THE ALLEY.

ARE THERE ANY FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS CHANGE? I THINK I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBER PAULA BLACKMON ASK THE QUESTION.

I'M GOING TO DO MORE EDUCATING. I THINK YOUR ANSWER WAS, IF I BELIEVE WAS NO.

YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. BUT I WANT TO KNOW, IS THERE ANY FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS CHANGE I'M DOING RIGHT NOW? LISTENING TO HER IN DISTRICT FOUR.

AND SO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ARE COMING UP IN MY IN MY MEETINGS.

AND I'M NOW CONCERNED ABOUT THIS THAT'S GETTING READY TO TAKE PLACE.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY FUNDING? SANITATION HAS A OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT TEAM THAT ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS EVERY DAY. WE WANT TO BE AT YOUR MEETINGS. WE WILL COORDINATE WITH YOUR STAFF.

ANY AND EVERYTHING THAT THAT YOU'RE ORGANIZING THAT WE CAN GET IN FRONT OF OUR CUSTOMERS.

WE'D LIKE TO BE THERE. IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW OTHER FUNDS AVAILABLE.

AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A SANITATION HAS A BUDGET TO SUPPORT OUR OUTREACH TEAM.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS CHANGE WILL BE A PRIORITY.

YOU KNOW, NOW THROUGH, YOU KNOW, FOR A WHILE, AS, AS WE WORK TO GET RESIDENTS ACCUSTOMED TO THE CHANGE.

I WOULD LIKE YOU ALSO TO SEND A COPY TO MY OFFICE ON WHAT YOU WOULD USE TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY.

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ALTHOUGH I KIND OF KNOW BECAUSE I WALKED THEM AND I'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT? BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS CHANGE, AS I HEARD SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES SAY IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, I'VE HEARD.

COUNCILMEMBER ROTHMAN EXPRESSED HIS DEEP CONCERN ABOUT IT.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL CHANGE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT SOME OF OUR SENIORS.

SO AND SOME OF THE HANDICAPPED MEMBERS AND ETCETERA.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ALL THIS INFORMATION PRETTY QUICKLY, IF YOU CAN GIVE THAT TO ME AND WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU.

I'M SORRY. I HAVE ANOTHER MEETING COMING UP ON THIS TUESDAY, SO I'M NOT.

I'M WORKING HARD. AND SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION OUT AND WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY AND COME OUT.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT AND SPEAKING WITH THEM AS WELL. YES, SIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. BAZALDUA, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM C.

THANK YOU MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.

I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN CONTENTIOUS, TO SAY THE LEAST.

IT'S IT'S ALSO IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A GREAT EFFICIENCY EXERCISE, QUITE FRANKLY.

I LEARNED A LOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND I APPRECIATE SEEING THE DATA TO SUPPORT THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

I WOULD SAY THAT IF I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY.

I DO APPRECIATE YOUR FOURTH OPTION WITH THAT IS A HYBRID.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON HOW YOU CAME TO THESE CONCLUSIONS.

ONE IS THE I CAN'T I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT THE SECOND, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS SCENARIO THREE THAT HAD THE PERCENTAGE OF THE IF THERE WAS A PERCENTAGE THRESHOLD OF 60% OF THE BLOCK WITH THE FRONT DRIVEWAYS. BUT IT WAS ONLY THAT DATA AVAILABLE FOR THE 8 TO 9 FOOT ALLEYWAYS DO WE DID WE EXPLORE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME WITH THE TEN FOOT ALLEYWAYS THAT ALSO MAY HAVE BLOCKS WITH A MAJORITY HAVING FRONT DRIVEWAYS.

WE DID NOT. THE CITY DID NOT PREVIOUSLY HAVE DATA ON WHERE FRONT DRIVEWAYS WERE.

SO THIS WAS A MANUAL EXERCISE BY SANITATION STAFF.

WE CURRENTLY SERVICE ABOUT 8000 BLOCKS. SO RECOGNIZING THAT OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS AND A PATH FORWARD MOST LIKELY INVOLVED STAYING IN TEN FOOT WIDE ALLEYS.

WE FOCUSED THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAD AT SURVEYING THE EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS.

OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE. SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE IS IS IS NOT THE CAPABILITY OF GETTING THAT GRANULAR? THERE'S CERTAINLY THE CAPABILITY. AND WE CAN WE CAN UNDERTAKE THAT EXERCISE.

I THINK THE NUMBER OF FRONT DRIVEWAYS IN THOSE TEN FOOT WIDE, TEN FOOT WIDE ALLEY AREAS WILL BE FAR LESS THAN THE NUMBER OF FRONT DRIVEWAYS THAT WE SEE IN. SURE.

AND I'M NOT I'M NOT CHALLENGING THAT AT ALL. I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE THE HYBRID SEEMED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT DATA POINT SPECIFICALLY.

AND IF THERE WERE IN FACT BLOCKS THAT HAD THE SAME THRESHOLD MET.

IF WE WERE MAKING THAT CHANGE FOR THOSE WITH EIGHT AND NINE FOOT ALLEYWAYS TO GO TO THE CURB BECAUSE OF THE, THE FRONT DRIVEWAY EXISTENCE OF THAT ON THAT BLOCK, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD BE CONSISTENT AND DO THAT AND ESSENTIALLY NOT PENALIZE THOSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A NARROWER ALLEYWAY, BUT THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES OF THOSE WITH TEN FOOT.

I THINK THAT YOUR DATA IS VERY, VERY EYE OPENING, AND IT'S ONE THAT YOU ARTICULATED THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MANPOWER THAT IS NEEDED FOR THESE REAR LOADING TRUCKS AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF, OF YOUR BUDGET THAT IS DISPROPORTIONATELY GOING TO A THIRD OF THE CUSTOMERS THAT WE SERVE, I THINK THAT THE THE TRUE EQUITY CONVERSATION THAT WE SHOULD BE HAVING HERE IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MANY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN SUPPLEMENTING THE SERVICE.

AND AND QUITE FRANKLY, NOT GETTING THE SAME. AND, AND SO I MORE THAN ANYTHING, WANTED TO SEE THE END SOLUTION OF THIS.

AND TRUST ME, I HAVE PLENTY OF RESIDENTS. Y'ALL CAN LOOK IN THE DATA AS WELL THAT THIS WILL BE A VERY BIG DEAL TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.

BUT I, I WANTED TO SEE THAT THERE WAS THE ABILITY FOR CHARGING FOR THE SERVICE THAT WE'RE GETTING.

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AND AND SO BUT THEY'RE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT AS THOSE THAT HAVE THE REAR LOADING TRUCK WITH THREE INDIVIDUALS, ETC.. SO IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO SHORE UP AN EQUITABLE APPROACH TO THE SANITATION SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE, THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HEAD. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD SEE THE ANSWER TO BE A FULL, SWEEPING DISRUPTION OF SERVICE, A HUGE CHANGE, ALTHOUGH I DO SEE THAT THERE'S A HUGE PRICE TAG.

AND I JUST ALSO, AS MISS WILLIS MENTIONED, LIKE THAT $80 IS THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A STICKER SHOCK.

FOR SURE. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE USED TO THE $30 THRESHOLD, RIGHT, THAT WE'RE PAYING. SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE HEADED BECAUSE THIS THIS CONVERSATION SEEMED TO KIND OF GO IN A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. SO I'M SURE YOU'RE NOT WALKING AWAY WITH YOUR CLEAR AS ON WHAT WHAT TO DO NEXT. BUT I JUST I THANK YOU FOR, FOR GETTING THIS IN FRONT OF US, GETTING US THIS GOOD DATA. I THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND HEARING FROM THE DISTRICT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM C.

THANK YOU. I'M NOT THE YOUNGEST COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I DO REPRESENT THE YOUNGEST COUNCIL DISTRICT.

SO AS COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE 50S AND 60S, MOST OF MY DISTRICT WAS NOT EVEN PART OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AT THE TIME.

IT WAS FARMLAND. AND WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED AND APPROVED BY THIS BODY, IT WAS BUILT MOSTLY WITH TEN FOOT ALLEYS, AND THE PEOPLE EXPECT TO HAVE IT PICKED UP. IT'S ACTUALLY NOT WORKABLE.

IT'S NOT FEASIBLE IN ANY WAY FOR IT TO HAVE CURB PICKUP.

SO AS IT TURNS OUT, WITH THE NUMBERS, NOT MUCH WOULD CHANGE FOR US.

WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ONLY HAVE FRONT ENTRY GARAGES, SO THEY ALREADY HAVE CURB AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN ALLEY AT ALL.

AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF CREEKS. SO THAT'S THE TOTALITY I THINK OF YOUR ALLEY PICKUP.

BUT I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN TERMS OF POLICY BECAUSE WE REPRESENT OUR DISTRICT, BUT WE SERVE THE WHOLE CITY.

AND IN YOUR OWN SLIDES ON 37 AND 38, WHAT'S VERY CLEAR WHEN YOU'RE SHOWING US THESE PICTURES IS ALL OF THESE ARE CODE VIOLATIONS. ALL OF THESE ARE CODE VIOLATIONS.

SO I JUST HAVE TO KEEP GOING BACK TO YOU. AND I KNOW THIS DOES NOT SURPRISE YOU, CLIFF.

THIS CONVERSATION. BUT WHY AREN'T WE ENFORCING THE REGULATIONS? WE ALREADY HAVE TO MAKE IT SAFER FOR THE TRUCKS, MEANING ALL THIS GREENERY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

IT NEEDS TO BE TRIMMED BACK. THE CANS ARE NOT PLACED PROPERLY.

THEY NEED TO BE IN THE DRIVEWAY. THEY CAN'T BE UP AGAINST THE FENCE.

THEY CAN'T BE NEXT TO THE TO THE GAS METER. SO WHY AREN'T WE ENFORCING THAT? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT YES, VEGETATION CAN BE A CHALLENGE, BUT THE REAL CHALLENGE FOR SANITATION IS THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH, THE PAVEMENT WIDTH, AND THE AMOUNT OF SPACE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PAVEMENT FOR THE ROLL CARTS TO BE THERE WITH ENOUGH SPACE FOR WORKERS TO GET SAFELY AROUND. SO THAT'S A THAT'S THE PRIMARY CONCERN.

SECOND, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THESE EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS WHERE THERE ARE NO FRONT DRIVEWAYS WHERE THE, THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY IS, IS NARROW THAT 12 TO 15FT FEET.

IF THE PAVEMENT IS IS 8 OR 9FT WIDE, THE ROLL CART IS THREE FEET DEEP.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A ROLL CART ON EITHER SIDE.

YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE MATH, AND MAYBE THERE'S ROOM FOR SIX INCHES TO A FOOT ON EITHER SIDE.

THERE'S THERE'S VERY LIMITED OPTIONS FOR THE RESIDENCE.

AND SO WE, WE I ACKNOWLEDGE WE'VE BEEN LIGHT HANDED WITH ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE WE'VE RECOGNIZED THOSE CONSTRAINTS.

WE'VE RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS A LIKELIHOOD OR A POSSIBILITY THAT THAT THESE REGULATIONS WOULD CHANGE IN TIME AND REQUIRING RESIDENTS TO

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AND BUT WE DO WE DO ENFORCE WE DO NOTIFY CUSTOMERS WHEN THE CART PLACEMENT IS AN ISSUE. WE ISSUED 1620 OF ORANGE TAGS. NOTICES OF VIOLATION ARE INFORMAL NOTICES OF VIOLATION RELATED TO SANITATION ISSUES, A BIG CHUNK OF THOSE BEING ROLL CART PLACEMENT ISSUES.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT COMPLETELY WE'RE NOT IGNORING THE ISSUE.

WELL, IF YOU ORANGE TAGGED 1600 AND YOU'VE COLLECTED, I DON'T KNOW, WELL OVER 100,000, I MEAN, MAYBE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND IN A YEAR. MILLIONS.

SEVERAL MILLION. OKAY. SO I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT I UNDERSTAND IT BEING A MINUSCULE AMOUNT.

ONE OF THE CHANGES, EVEN FOR TEN FOOT ALLEYS, IS THAT YOU REALLY ARE GOING TO END UP ASKING PEOPLE, UNLESS THEY HAVE BUILT TO THIS SPECIFICATION, TO ACTUALLY PUT THEIR TRASH CAN ON THEIR DRIVEWAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S EFFECTIVELY WHAT THIS IS SAYING.

ESPECIALLY IN THE LANGUAGE YOU HAVE ATTACHED.

AND SO WHY WOULDN'T YOU ALREADY DO THAT WITH THE EIGHT AND NINE FOOT ALLEYS? I MEAN, YOU WERE JUST SAYING, WELL, EIGHT FEET AND THEN WE NEED THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE CAN OF THREE FEET. BUT IF THAT CAN IS SITTING ON THE DRIVEWAY, YOU ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THAT ISSUE IN A LOT OF AREAS WHERE THERE IS A REAR ENTRY DRIVEWAY.

THE CUSTOMERS DO ARE THE BIG ISSUE IS THESE 30,000 LOCATIONS THAT ARE 8 OR 9 FOOT WIDE ALLEYS THAT DON'T HAVE A DRIVEWAY TO PLACE THE CART IN. WELL, AND I THINK IN PRIOR BRIEFINGS, WE DISTINGUISHED BETWEEN REAR ENTRY HOMES AND HOMES THAT HAVE A FRONT ENTRY. AND IF YOU HAVE A FRONT ENTRY LIKE THIS SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER.

YOU CAN EASILY GET YOUR CART BECAUSE YOU CAN EASILY GET YOUR CAR IN.

BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REAR ENTRIES EVEN WITH THE SMALLER ALLEYS.

IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE ACTUALLY DID THE CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT WAS NECESSARY AND WE SAID IT HAS TO GO ON YOUR DRIVEWAY, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A GATE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OPEN YOUR GATE FOR THAT DAY, OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MODIFY YOUR FENCE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SOLUTION, AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVEN'T DONE.

HELLO. WHY WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT WORK. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CODE COMPLIANCE NEEDS TO FOLLOW EVERY SANITATION TRUCK.

AND HAVING GOTTEN MYSELF UP IN A SANITATION TRUCK, IT'S ACTUALLY HARDER TO DO AND TO ASK THEM TO GO UP AND DOWN.

IT'S NOT DOABLE, BUT CERTAINLY A SUPERVISOR COULD GO BEHIND.

OR THEY COULD RADIO AND GO, LIKE I HAVE FOUR ON THIS STREET THAT NEED IT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER I JUST HEARD CODE ENFORCEMENT A COUPLE TIMES.

CHRIS CHRISTIAN, DIRECTOR OF CODE COMPLIANCE SERVICES, CITY OF DALLAS.

I JUST WANTED TO COME OUT AND LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE ADDRESSED 1800 VEGETATION OBSTRUCTION VIOLATIONS LAST MONTH AND 8627 YEAR TO DATE. SO WE'RE ENFORCING. GOOD FOR YOU.

AND I'M HAPPY YOU ARE. AND SO I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

AND AT A MINIMUM, WHY COULDN'T WE DO A BIG INITIATIVE AND SEE IF IT WORKS AND THEN COME BACK.

BECAUSE THIS IS EXTREMELY DISRUPTIVE. AND I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, NO, THEY CAN'T GO THROUGH THEIR SIDE YARD.

THE AIR CONDITIONERS THERE. AND IT'S A SMALL SIDE YARD.

WELL NO THEY CAN'T. ALL THE ALL THE IMAGES YOU HAVE ARE FLAT LAND.

A LOT OF THE TOPOGRAPHY IS VERY, VERY CHALLENGING.

NO, I MEAN PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO IT. AND IT'S NOT JUST AN 85 YEAR OLD WOMAN.

I WOULD AGAIN STATE THAT WITH EIGHT AND NINE FOOT WIDE ALLEYS, THE TRUCKS DO NOT FIT THROUGH MANY OF THESE PASSAGEWAYS BETWEEN UTILITY POLES, THE FENCES WHERE ROLL CARTS ARE RIGHT UP AGAINST THEM.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR REQUEST THAT WE ISSUE NOTICES OF VIOLATION AND CITATIONS TO PEOPLE TO REQUIRE THEM TO MOVE THEIR FENCES SO THAT THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE SPACING REQUIREMENTS.

BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE 195,000 CUSTOMERS THAT ARE ARE IN THE ALLEYWAYS RIGHT NOW.

OUR CHIEF CONCERN THAT THE TRUCKS ARE DO NOT FIT THROUGH THESE NARROW PASSAGES, THAT THERE ARE OTHER CHALLENGES IN ADDITION TO FENCE LOCATIONS, UTILITY POLE PLACEMENT, GAS METERS, ETC. ASKING CUSTOMERS OR PENALIZING CUSTOMERS AT THIS POINT REQUIRING THEM TO MOVE THEIR FENCES WHEN, AGAIN, THE MOST EFFICIENT, COST EFFECTIVE SERVICE MODEL IS MOVING SERVICE TO THE CURB,

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WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR PEOPLE WHO GET MOVED TO CURB SERVICE WHEN THERE'S CARS PARKED OUT THERE? YOU'RE GOING TO START TRYING TO RESTRICT WHEN SOMEONE CAN PARK ON THE STREET. SO WE COLLECT FROM THE CURB AND 64% OF THE CITY.

THERE ARE CARS PARKED ON EVERY STREET THAT WE SERVICE FROM THE CURB.

NOW, OUR TRUCKS MANEUVER AROUND THOSE CARTS. ARE THOSE PARKED CARS? RESIDENTS THAT HAVE CURBSIDE SERVICE ARE FAMILIAR WITH NOT SETTING THEIR CART OUT IN A WAY THAT BLOCKS THAT'S THAT'S BLOCKED BY A PARKED CAR.

THE THEM, THEM AND THEIR NEIGHBORS THAT PARK ON THE STREET GENERALLY EXTEND THE COURTESY OF NOT PARKING IN FRONT OF A CART THAT'S SET OUT FOR COLLECTION.

IN FACT, THE CITY CODE DOES MAKE IT UNLAWFUL TO DO SO.

SO I DON'T EXPECT A MAJOR PROBLEM SEEING HOW IT IS NOT A MAJOR PROBLEM IN THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY THAT WE SERVICE NOW FROM THE CURB.

WHEN YOU DO THE COMPARISON OF OTHER MAJOR CITIES, DID YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE METROPLEX CITIES THAT SURROUND DALLAS? YES, MA'AM. SO THE I WOULD REFERENCE A SLIDE IN THE INDEX TO COMPARE OTHER MAJOR TEXAS CITIES.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK TRY TO IDENTIFY ALLEY SERVICE REGULATIONS, YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SUBURBS, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES AT THIS POINT THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT ALLEYWAY SERVICE. SO PLANO AND GARLAND WOULD BE THE EXAMPLE.

AND IN BOTH CITIES THEY REQUIRE FOUR FEET OF SPACE.

SO FOR COMPARISON WE ONLY REQUIRE A FOOT AND A HALF.

SO GARLAND, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S FOUR FEET FROM THE GATE OR FENCE.

PLANO IS TWO FEET FROM THE PAVEMENT EDGE AND TWO FEET FROM THE FENCE OR ANY OTHER OBJECT.

SO THOSE REGULATIONS ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE SEEKING NOW.

WELL, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS PROVING MY POINT THAT OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES MANAGED TO PICK UP IN THE ALLEY.

AND THOSE CITIES HAVE WIDER ALLEYS THAN THAN WE DO IN GENERAL.

OKAY. HOW? WITH OPTION FOR HOW MANY ALLEYS COULD YOU MOVE TO AN AUTOMATED TRUCK THAT ARE NOW A REAR LOADER UNDER SCENARIO? SO WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TO DO WITH THE TEN FOOT WIDE ALLEYS WHERE WE ARE STAYING WITH THE MODIFIED COLLECTION RULES, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET MORE AUTOMATED EQUIPMENT INTO THOSE ALLEYWAYS BECAUSE THE ARM WILL BE ABLE TO SAFELY GRAB THE CART WITH THE ADDITIONAL SPACING REQUIREMENTS THAT WILL ALLOW US IN TIME AS REAR LOAD TRUCKS AGE OUT OF THE FLEET TO REPLACE THEM WITH MORE AUTOMATED EQUIPMENT SO THAT WE CAN UTILIZE LESS LABOR AT THE REAR OF THE TRUCK AND IN SOME FORM HELP BETTER CONTROL THE COST. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME AMOUNT OF COST CONTROL AS IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT CITYWIDE.

BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE EFFECT WITH THE 50,000 CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE TEN FOOT WIDE ALLEYS NOW.

WELL, AS A CONCEPT, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE WORK TO BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE COST RECOVERY FOR CURB AND ALLEY, AND I DO GENERALLY SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU. MISS WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON ITEM C.

THANK YOU. WELL I HEARD SOMETHING A MOMENT AGO, AND I'VE STOOD DOWN WHILE I AFTER I HEARD IT, BUT ABOUT AND THIS IS ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS AND ABOUT ALLEYS.

YOU KNOW, IF IF THE SERVICE IS DISCONTINUED, WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.

AND I ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS MAKE AN IMPACT ON REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THESE HOMES, IT'S LIKE A12 PUNCH IF THEIR SANITATION IS TAKEN AWAY OR MOVED TO THE CURB AND THEY'VE GOT A REAR ENTRY HOME.

I MEAN, THAT'S NOT THE ONCE A WEEK ENCOUNTER OF, OH, I'VE GOT A SANITATION TRUCK COMING DOWN THE ALLEY.

THIS IS EVERY DAY GOING TO WORK AND SCHOOL AND ALL OF THAT.

AND SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO STILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE ALLEYS, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THEY'VE GOT THE THE CURB PICKUP OR THE ALLEY PICKUP.

SO WE STILL HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE. I'M GOING TO TAKE ONE MORE APPROACH WITH THIS, MISTER GILLESPIE, AND THIS IS ON I MEAN, I REALIZE THAT THE IDEA HERE IS TO AFFECT AS FEW PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, AND THIS IS PROGRESS AND WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

BUT I'M I'M STILL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE WHO, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THIS GO THROUGH WHO WOULD HAVE TO ADAPT? AND I KNOW THAT YOU LOOK AT YOUR ROUTES AND MODULES, YOU KNOW, BLOCKS AND KIND OF IN THEIR FORMATION AND I STILL,

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SO I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THAT BUT DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO SEE ALLEYS GET LESS REPAIR OR MAINTENANCE.

IN FACT, IF THIS HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU HAVE FEWER TRUCKS DRIVING DOWN THEM TO TEAR THEM BACK UP AGAIN.

I MEAN, IF THERE IS A SAD SILVER LINING, MAYBE THAT IS IT IS THAT IT WON'T COST US AS MUCH GOING FORWARD AND ALLEY REPAIR.

BUT IT'S JUST A CONCERN TO ME THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT DIFFERENTLY, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S RARE ENTRY HOMES.

SO I WOULD POINT TO SLIDE 30, AND PERHAPS YOU'RE SEEKING MORE TIME THAN THIS, BUT THE PROPOSED TIMELINE HAS JANUARY 15TH BEING THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE IT'S 100% OR NEAR 100% FRONT DRIVEWAYS AND THE EXTENDED TIMELINE ON JULY 15TH, 26 TRANSITION DATE FOR THOSE AREAS THAT ARE LESS THAN 100%, THE 60% TO, YOU KNOW, 100%. SO IT DOES WE ARE PROVIDING THAT ADDITIONAL TIME IN THOSE AREAS TO TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

LIKE WHAT? WITH THOSE ON THE SLIDE. I READ THE SLIDE.

I'M MAKING MY REQUEST. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MISS MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SO THIS IS MY FEEDBACK TO YOU, IS THAT I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SEE YOU PAUSE, NOT USE THIS TIMELINE, AND DEVELOP A PLAN TO BASICALLY TEACH OUR HOMEOWNERS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN SERVICE.

MEANING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TRIM ALL THAT STUFF OUT OF THE ALLEY.

YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO PUT YOUR TRASH CAN ON THE DRIVEWAY.

AND I MEAN, THAT WOULD SOLVE. IT SOUNDS LIKE 75 TO 80% OF YOUR PROBLEMS. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP PROCEDURES TO HAVE ENFORCEMENT.

AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE CODE IS DOING SOME AMOUNT OF IT.

BUT IF YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S MILLIONS OF COLLECTIONS AND I THINK, CHRIS, YOU HAD 6000.

AND YOU HAD 1600, IT'S NOTHING. AND SO I THINK YOU'RE MISSING THAT STEP.

THIS IS MUCH MORE IMPACTFUL FOR THE DAY TO DAY LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS THAN WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO AND DO THIS.

VEGETATION IS NOT THE PRIMARY CONCERN. THE PAVEMENT WIDTH IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN.

JUST ABOUT EVERY 8 OR 9 FOOT WIDE ALLEY BLOCK.

YOU WILL SEE RUTTING IN SOME FORM OR THE OTHER, WHERE THE TRUCKS DO NOT FIT ON THE ALLEY PAVEMENT AND CONTINUE TO CAUSE DAMAGE OFF THE PAVEMENT. WE CAN TRIM BACK. WE CAN FOCUS ON VEGETATION, BUT THE DAMAGES IN THE ALLEYWAYS WILL STILL OCCUR.

SO AGAIN, I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT REAR ENTRY. SO I KNOW THAT WHEN I DID THE RIDE ALONG, THEY DEFINITELY TOOK ME ON.

THE KIND OF, I'M GOING TO CALL IT A HISTORIC ALLEY, A SERVICE ALLEY WHERE PEOPLE HAD A FRONT ENTRY, BUT THEY REALLY JUST USED THIS FOR UTILITIES AND SANITATION, WHICH IS A UTILITY.

BUT THAT'S ALL IT WAS USED FOR. WELL, NO COUNCIL MEMBER IS GOING TO PUT THEIR BOND DOLLARS TO SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS DON'T EVEN DRIVE ON.

THESE THINGS HADN'T BEEN PAVED AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S A HUGE PROBLEM THERE.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE. I THINK IF YOU HAVE A HISTORIC ALLEY, THEN YEAH, GO TO THE GO TO THE CURB BECAUSE YOU HAVE A WAY TO DO IT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REAR ENTRY. THIS IS A HUGE IMPACT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES, AND YOU REALLY HAVEN'T DONE THE KIND OF CAMPAIGN THAT'S NECESSARY TO GET PEOPLE TO CHANGE THEIR ACTIONS SO THAT IT IS EASIER FOR YOU TO PICK UP.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I WOULD. SO IN AREAS THAT ARE PRIMARILY REAR ENTRY, WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES DO NOT HAVE FRONT DRIVEWAYS, THIS PLAN HAS US STAYING. SO WE'RE NOT I'M NOT PROPOSING THAT WE PULL OUT OF THOSE AREAS THAT ARE MAJORITY REAR ENTRY, NO FRONT DRIVEWAY. SO THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR US.

AND AND YES, WE CAN CERTAINLY THE THE MODIFIED RULES HERE WHERE WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO PLACE THE CARTS IN THE DRIVEWAY OR HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL SPACE. I HOPE WE'LL ADDRESS THAT. SO.

WELL, I THINK YOU NEED THAT IN BETWEEN STEP. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST WANTED TO JUST CHIME IN FOR JUST A MINUTE. AND SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THE THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED

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FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT NEEDING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT MOVED US IN THE DIRECTION OF WHERE STAFF IS PROPOSING, AND WE TRULY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME MINDSET CHANGES, SOME BEHAVIOR CHANGES, BUT WE REALLY HAVE SOME EFFICIENCY ISSUES THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE.

AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S EVEN COMPLICATED WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY HAVE TO CHANGE A BEHAVIOR.

IN NO WAY HAVE WE APPROACHED THIS NOT KEEPING THE FOCUS AROUND HOW WE CAN DELIVER STILL GREAT SANITATION SERVICES TO THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS. WE HAVE SPENT MANY HOURS, AS MANY OF YOU.

KNOW, AND YOU'VE BEEN WITH US. YOU'VE HELPED US ORGANIZE MANY OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS I KNOW HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY PAINFUL.

BUT OUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL LAST YEAR WAS THAT WE WOULD GO BACK OUT, WE WOULD LISTEN, AND WE WOULD COME BACK WITH AN UPDATED APPROACH THAT WE FELT WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR US TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TOWARDS GREATER EFFICIENCIES AND MORE EFFECTIVE SANITATION SERVICES. SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT AS WE CONTINUE TO TALK THROUGH THIS, WE KNOW THAT SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS TODAY, IF WE DID NOT ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS, WE'LL DEFINITELY COME BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT. BUT WE TRULY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE RAISED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE THE RESPONSIBLE WAY IS TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE EDUCATION EDUCATIONAL PIECE.

HOW DO WE DO THE OUTREACH? HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE INFORM SHARE, TRAIN, EDUCATE ALL THOSE THINGS I THINK ARE PART OF THIS EQUATION, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNSEL CLEARLY KNOWS THAT THIS HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.

YOU'VE GIVEN US GREAT. YOU'VE CHALLENGED US, AND YOU'VE ASKED US TO COME BACK TO TO SHARE WITH YOU THE BEST WAY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS TEAM HAS DONE. AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

WE HAVE WE YOU KNOW, WE'LL KEEP SHARPENING OUR PENCIL, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE WAY WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO EVOLVE AND THE OPERATIONAL IMPACTS ARE, ARE THERE TRUE.

AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE CHALLENGES, WE'RE NOT JUST MAKING IT UP.

WE'VE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THE DATA IN FRONT OF YOU SO WE CAN TRULY BRING YOU RECOMMENDATIONS AND POLICY DECISIONS THAT YOU ARE INFORMED WITH THAT INFORMATION.

SO I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF PUBLICLY, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD THAT THEY HAVE WORKED ON THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN A, A CONTINUATION OF, OF, OF DIFFERENT ANALYSIS THAT THEY'VE UNDERTAKEN.

AND OUR JOBS ARE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO BRING YOU GOOD INFORMATION.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE PRESENTED TODAY.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN. WE'LL KEEP WORKING THROUGH IT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE IMPLEMENTATION IS TOMORROW.

I THINK THERE'S TIMELINE. THE TIMELINE GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WITH THE OUTREACH AND THE EDUCATION AROUND THIS EFFORT.

BUT JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. AND IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO SEND OUT ANY ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT WE DID NOT ANSWER.

FROM THE FROM HERE AROUND THE HORSESHOE TODAY AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE REGARDING THIS TOPIC, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ELENA OR TO CLIFF OR TO ME DIRECTLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. I'M EXCITED BECAUSE I GET TO RECOGNIZE THE PRIDE OF WEST DALLAS.

LAURA CADENA, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM C, FIRST TIME EVER SPOKEN.

FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHT YOU PUT INTO THIS TO THE CHANGES, BECAUSE I WAS ON STAFF WHEN I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES WERE PROPOSED.

AND SO I SEE SOME GREAT IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS.

I'VE WALKED MANY ALLEYWAYS WITH SANITATION AND WITH RESIDENTS AND KNOW SOME OF THE CURRENT CONCERNS WITH TRYING TO GET THE TRUCKS DOWN THE ALLEYS, AND I'VE SEEN THAT FIRSTHAND. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HEAR FROM RESIDENTS. AND ONCE YOU ALL ROLL THIS OUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS.

I KNOW YOU MET WITH BRADFORD ESTATES NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND ALSO OVER IN WEST DALLAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PARK.

SO YOU HAVE ALWAYS MADE YOURSELVES AVAILABLE WHENEVER RESIDENTS WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES.

AND LASTLY, I WANT TO SAY I'VE HELPED MANY RESIDENTS SIGN UP FOR THE HELPING HANDS PROGRAM.

IT'S A WONDERFUL PROGRAM THAT I THINK MORE RESIDENTS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT.

AND JUST WANTED TO ASK IF THIS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE NOTICES.

WHENEVER Y'ALL DO MAKE THESE CHANGES. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

THANKS. MR. JOHNSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. ITEM C. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. I WAS LOOKING AT SLIDES 38 37 AND

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AND I KNOW I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, THE CONCERN ABOUT THEM.

AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS. THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS JOB. IT SEEMS LIKE THE CREWS THAT'S THERE DO.

ARE THEY PROTECTED? DO THEY HAVE INSURANCE? I'M SORRY, SIR.

THE CREWS. THE SANITATION CREWS I'M LOOKING AT HERE.

THOSE THAT'S ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK THAT DO.

ARE THEY INSURED? ARE THEY INSURED? ARE THEY INSURED? YES, SIR. SO THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCKS WORK FOR A THIRD PARTY.

TEMPORARY. SO IS OUR SOURCE. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND THEY ARE INSURED? YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES, I BELIEVE.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I CANNOT RECALL IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDEPENDENT GARBAGE COLLECTION.

THE CITY CODE PROVIDES THAT THE CITY THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF SANITATION IS THE EXCLUSIVE SOLID WASTE PROVIDER FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND DUPLEXES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

CAN YOU WRITE? MY MEMORY? SERVES ME CORRECT. WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE WHERE TRASH RECEPTACLES, BINS CANNOT BE IN IN FRONT OF DRIVEWAYS. IS THAT ACCURATE? YES, SIR. WELL BEYOND THE COLLECTION DAY. IS THAT WHAT? THAT THEY CAN'T BE WHEN WE PUT IT OUT FOR A PICKUP, THAT THEY CAN'T BLOCK THE DRIVEWAY? OH THEY CAN'T BLOCK VEHICULAR OR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

THERE'S NO REGULATION ABOUT THE CART BLOCKING THE RESIDENT'S DRIVEWAY.

OKAY. BUT THERE'S THERE'S. SO IT'S THREE FEET.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A THREE FOOT BUFFER. CORRECT.

THREE FEET OF SPACING BETWEEN THE CARTS AND ANY OBSTRUCTIONS.

OKAY. SO, AGAIN, NO ONE LIKES CHANGE. I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING SOONER. TO. I THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO AVOID THIS FROM FROM OCCURRING.

RIGHT. AND SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M GIVING CLEAR GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION.

ON MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THE, THE MODIFIED HYBRID APPROACH.

SO I HOPE YOU HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUES AND YOU HAVE SOME DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE, SO LET ME KNOW.

GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. SOLD. CITY MANAGER. IT'S BACK TO YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW Y'ALL CAN GET UP AND LEAVE.

THEY WERE TRYING TO DO AN EARLY EXIT. SO WE HAVE ONE LAST ITEM THAT WE WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL TODAY.

AND THIS IS RELATED TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD A FEW WEEKS AGO REGARDING A POLICY RELATED TO DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

AND WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

AS WE CONTINUE, AS, YOU KNOW, TO FACE GROWING CHALLENGES WE KNOW THAT OUR CURRENT MAINTENANCE BUDGET IS ABOUT $15 MILLION ANNUALLY, AND IT'S BELOW INDUSTRY STANDARDS. THE LAST, LAST FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED IN 2017.

AND WE KNOW THAT THAT'S LEFT SOME CRITICAL GAPS IN HOW WE PLAN FOR OVERALL FACILITIES MAINTENANCE.

AND SO MY COMMITMENT TO THE COUNCIL IS THAT WE WOULD COME BACK WITH SOME POLICY ITEMS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AND THAT WILL DEFINITELY SUPPORT AND HELP US AS WE PREPARE FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET. SO WE WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK BEFORE YOU LEAVE FOR RECESS. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR OF THE FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, JOHN JOHNSON. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER TOLBERT.

I'M JOHN JOHNSON, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT.

AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO START ON SLIDE TWO WITH THE PURPOSE OF OUR BRIEFING.

AND THAT'S TO PRESENT POLICY AND FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION TO IMPROVE HOW WE MAINTAIN AND INVEST IN CITY OWNED FACILITIES OVER TIME.

ON SLIDE THREE, AS A REMINDER, FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT ASSIGNED PORTFOLIO INCLUDES OVER 500 FACILITIES WITH AN AVERAGE AGE OF 47 YEARS.

FUNDING HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN BELOW INDUSTRY STANDARDS, AND WE DON'T HAVE A CURRENT FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT TO GUIDE OUR INVESTMENT DECISIONS. MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS, WHICH ARE ALSO KNOWN AS CITY FACILITIES AND BOND PROPOSITIONS, WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 2024 BOND, AND THE CITY'S ANNUAL FUNDING MODEL LACKS THE STRUCTURE OR SCALE NEEDED TO SUSTAIN LONG TERM UPKEEP.

NEXT SLIDE. INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES RECOMMEND INVESTING BETWEEN 2 AND 4% OF THE ASSET PORTFOLIOS.

REPLACEMENT VALUE IN ANNUAL REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.

HISTORICALLY, DALLAS HAS INVESTED LESS THAN 1%, LEADING TO GROWING DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND RISING LONG TERM RISK.

THIS LEVEL OF UNDERINVESTMENT COMPOUNDS ISSUES AND LIMITS OUR ABILITY TO ADEQUATELY ADDRESS NEEDS AND PLAN STRATEGICALLY.

NEXT SLIDE. SO GIVEN THESE CHALLENGES, THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW DO WE BEGIN TO CHANGE COURSE?

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THIS REQUIRES TIME CONSISTENT AND INCREASING FUNDING AND PHASED IMPLEMENTATION SUPPORTED BY POLICY CHANGES.

OUR GOAL IS A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR ACROSS THE PORTFOLIO, WHICH CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED THROUGH FUNDING COORDINATED, INCREMENTAL STEPS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO LET'S LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS THAT CAN HELP THE CITY ALONG.

NEXT SLIDE. RECOMMENDATION ONE IS TO STRENGTHEN REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE FUNDING, GROWING.

GRADUALLY, OUR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR FUNDING IN A STRUCTURED AND CONSISTENT MANNER IS ESSENTIAL.

THIS IS NOT A FIXED MANDATE, BUT A BUDGET PLANNING TOOL TO BRING US CLOSER TO THE INDUSTRY STANDARD INVESTMENT TARGETS OVER TIME.

THIS APPROACH HELPS EXTEND THE USEFUL LIFE OF OUR ASSETS AND REDUCES OPERATIONAL FAILURES OVER TIME.

NEXT SLIDE. POLICY RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO IS TO GROW INVESTMENT IN PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.

INVESTING IN AND GROWING OUR PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE EFFORTS AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS IS NECESSARY TO REDUCE DISRUPTIONS TO OPERATIONS AND EXTEND THE USEFUL LIFE OF OUR ASSETS. PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE REDUCES LONG TERM COSTS AND PREVENTS MORE EXPENSIVE EMERGENCY REPAIRS LATER.

EPHREM HAS DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTED A FEW PPM PROGRAMS, AND ANNUAL AND GROWING FUNDS WOULD ALLOW US TO SUSTAIN AND EXPAND THE WORK ACROSS MORE FACILITIES. NEXT SLIDE. RECOMMENDATION NUMBER THREE IS TO CONSIDER INITIATION OF A BOND PROGRAM FOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

LEVERAGING A BOND PROGRAM COULD HELP ADDRESS CRITICAL DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUES ACROSS FMS PORTFOLIO.

FULL FUNDING THROUGH THE ANNUAL BUDGET ALONE IS NOT PRACTICAL OR FEASIBLE.

NEEDS AND PROJECTS FOR INCLUSION. INCLUSION WOULD NEED TO BE INFORMED BY DATA FROM A FUTURE FCA IF FUNDED.

NOTING THAT ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL ANALYSIS WOULD BE NEEDED TO DETERMINE CAPACITY AND ANY ASSOCIATED IMPLICATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE. POLICY RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FOUR IS TO FUND REGULAR FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENTS.

BEST PRACTICES RECOMMEND ALLOCATING FUNDING TO COMPLETE AND REGULARLY UPDATE FCAS EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS.

THIS WILL ALLOW US TO PLAN AND BUDGET PROACTIVELY BASED ON REAL DATA, RATHER THAN RELYING ON ESTIMATES AND SIMPLY REACTIVE NEEDS.

IT ALSO ALIGNS WITH FPC CRITERIA ALREADY ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

NOW LET'S REVIEW SOME CITY MANAGER LED INITIATIVES GEARED TO IMPROVING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OPERATIONS.

STARTING WITH EXPLORING AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND MODEL.

ONE STRUCTURAL CHANGE UNDER REVIEW IS TRANSITIONING FROM TO AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND, AS OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE.

THIS WOULD TAKE 2 TO 3 YEARS OF PLANNING AND IF APPROVED AND FEASIBLE, IT WOULD BE A POSSIBLE LAUNCH IN FISCAL YEAR 28 OR LATER.

IT WOULD IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY AND HELP DEPARTMENTS UNDERSTAND THE TRUE COST OF MAINTAINING THEIR FACILITIES.

NEXT SLIDE. THE CITY MANAGER NEXT STEP COMPLETE DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THAT WOULD BE TO FINISH REVIEWING AND RENEGOTIATING CULTURAL FACILITY OPERATING AGREEMENTS IN LINE WITH THE 2018 DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN.

OPTIONS INCLUDE SHIFTING MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY TO OPERATORS, INTRODUCING COST SHARING STRUCTURES AND OR IMPLEMENTING COST CAPS FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE REIMBURSEMENT. THESE ACTIONS HELP REDUCE THE CITY'S EXPOSURE TO UNFUNDED MAINTENANCE LIABILITIES AND ENSURE REPAIR OBLIGATIONS ARE BOTH KNOWN AND FUNDED.

NEXT SLIDE. AND FINALLY, THE LAST CITY MANAGER NEXT STEP IS TO PROHIBIT UNFUNDED FACILITY MAINTENANCE USE AGREEMENTS.

THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WOULD ISSUE A DIRECTIVE TO PROHIBIT ANY NEW OR RENEWED AGREEMENTS THAT COMMIT THE CITY TO MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY, WITHOUT IDENTIFIED FUNDING AT THE TIME OF EXECUTION.

THIS CHANGE WOULD PREVENT FUTURE UNFUNDED MAINTENANCE LIABILITIES.

ENSURING FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS ARE ALIGNED WITH THE ALLOCATED RESOURCES.

NEXT SLIDE. SO IN CLOSING, THE POLICY AND FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION, COMBINED WITH THE CITY MANAGER LED STRUCTURAL CHANGES, REPRESENT A PATH TOWARD BETTER FACILITY STEWARDSHIP AND SUPPORT THE CITY IN ITS PURSUIT OF A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR.

NEXT SLIDE. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

WE'RE ASKING CITY COUNCIL FOR FEEDBACK ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND IF SUPPORTED, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WILL BEGIN INCORPORATING THESE POLICIES INTO THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET PROCESS AND INITIATE THE NECESSARY OPERATIONAL AND POLICY CHANGES. THANK YOU. ARE YOU READY FOR FOR QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. THERE WE ARE. MISS MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES BRIEFING ITEM D.

[D. 25-2104A Policy Discussion and Recommendations on Deferred Maintenance Program]

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IT'S VERY CLEAR EVEN HERE IN CITY HALL, WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPTY SPACE.

I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T HAVE CUBES, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT HAPPENING.

AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS STAND IN THAT ATRIUM AND LOOK DOWN.

AND LOOK SIDEWAYS AND LOOK UP. AND THERE'S NO ACTIVITY.

WE NEED TO BE BETTER USING SPACE IN THE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN, AND GET RID OF THE ONES THAT WE DON'T.

WE CANNOT AFFORD ALL OF THIS REAL ESTATE. YOU HAD FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. YES. WE NEED TO GROW OUR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET.

YOU'RE SUGGESTING A MILLION A YEAR? I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.

MAYBE IT'S A NICE ROUND NUMBER. IF YOU CAME UP WITH 2 MILLION, I'D PROBABLY HAVE AGREED WITH THAT AS WELL.

SO THE SECOND ONE IS. YES. FOR GROWING PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE.

AGAIN, I DON'T THINK YOU GAVE A NUMBER, BUT YES, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE DOING THAT.

THE RECOMMENDATION FOR A BOND. NO, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT.

NO. AND THEN CONDUCTING RECURRING FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENTS.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW HOW MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN SINCE WE'VE HAD ONE.

AND IT'S BEEN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. AND AGAIN, I THINK WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.

LAST YEAR OR EARLIER. I THINK YOU NEED TO ASK OUR EMPLOYEES WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR BUILDING.

LIKE, WHY ARE THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS 60 DEGREES? ASK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE. THEY ALREADY KNOW 75% OF THE PROBLEMS. NOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO EVALUATE YOUR YOUR FOUNDATIONS.

I AGREE, BUT THEY KNOW WHEN THERE'S A HOLE IN THE ROOF AND YOU COULD AT LEAST GET THE MOST CRITICAL THINGS ON THE LIST.

AND SO YES, WE SHOULD PAY FOR PROFESSIONAL ONES.

YES, YOU SHOULD SCHEDULE THEM OUT. BUT DON'T WAIT FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT WATER PENETRATION IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE THING THAT'S HAPPENING TO US ALL IN ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS. SO I'M VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE CFO'S OFFICE IS STILL HERE, BUT WHERE IN THE BUDGET DOES IT OUTLINE REPAIRS AND DEFERRED MAINTENANCE COSTS.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. JACK IRELAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

IN THE BUDGET, WE INCLUDE FUNDING FOR REPAIR IN MR. JOHNSON'S OPERATING BUDGET. SO IT IS A GENERAL FUND EXPENSE? OTHER FUNDS, SUCH AS CONVENTION CENTER, AVIATION, ETC.

WILL HAVE SOME FUNDS WITHIN THEIR OPERATING BUDGET FOR REPAIR AND KIND OF ROUTINE MAINTENANCE, THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE THAT WE FUND THROUGH GENERAL CAPITAL RESERVE AND A CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND AS PART OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

AND SO IT IS INCLUDED EACH YEAR, AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WE SELL PROPERTY AND HAVE ABANDONMENTS THAT PRIMARILY ARE USED TO FUND THAT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. SO THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT EXPLAINS WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE IN THE BUDGET.

BUT WHERE IN THE BUDGET BOOK DOES IT SAY, WOW, YOU SPENT THIS MUCH ON REPAIRS THIS YEAR AND THE CAPITAL BUDGET? WE WOULD BE ABLE TO POINT THAT OUT, BUT NOT THE GENERAL FUND? NO, MA'AM. THE GENERAL FUND WOULD JUST BE WHAT IS IN JOHN'S ACTUAL OPERATING BUDGET AS ONE OF HIS SERVICES.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO GET AT, IS THAT IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND YEAR TO YEAR, WHAT HAVE WE DONE? HAVE WE INCREASED THAT? AND I THINK THAT'S A PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY ISSUE.

I THINK THAT'S A NUMBER THAT PEOPLE DESERVE TO SEE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SHOCKINGLY LOW.

AND IF WE ACTUALLY PUT IT IN PRINT, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE SUPPORT FROM OUR RESIDENTS TO PUT THOSE DOLLARS TO THE TO THAT USE.

BUT ALSO THEY WOULD HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE IT'S THEIR TAX DOLLARS THAT PAID FOR THESE BUILDINGS, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM DIMINISH BY NOT TAKING CARE OF THEM.

IN THE APPENDIX, I'M VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES ON THERE.

WHAT IS OUR COMMITMENT TO STAY IN ALL OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE LISTED IN THAT APPENDIX? I THINK THAT'S A POLICY OR A CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE CONSIDERATION.

BUT THE EXAMPLES THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE APPENDIX FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES ONLY ARE THE DALLAS ANIMAL SHELTER, CITY HALL, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, THE DETOX UNIT, POLICE STATIONS, JACK EVANS POLICE HEADQUARTERS, THE CENTRAL LIBRARY, THE MLK COMPLEX. AND SO WHICH OF THOSE DO YOU?

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DO SOMETHING WITH IT. YOU KNOW, BACK BEFORE THE WHOLE SEMINAR THING.

THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. WHERE? WELL, ARE WE REALLY GOING TO INVEST 6 TO $10 MILLION IN HVAC FOR A BUILDING WE'RE PROBABLY NOT KEEPING LONG TERM.

AND SO I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO CERTIFY, YES, THIS IS A BUILDING WHERE THERE'S ANY KIND OF SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE THAT WE'RE GOING TO STAY IN. I DON'T KNOW IF THE NUMBER IS TEN YEARS, BUT SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD ACTUALLY NOT BE INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO GET RID OF IT. ABSOLUTELY. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE THE COMMENTS REGARDING THAT.

I THINK AS WE BEGIN TO LOOK AT WE TALKED ABOUT THE REAL ESTATE MASTER PLAN THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE SUPPORT IN DEVELOPING.

I THINK IT'S TRULY GOING TO ALLOW FOR US TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE ASSET THAT WE HAVE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NEEDING TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE DIFFERENT LEASES THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE CITY.

SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO GIVE US A ROADMAP COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN THAT WILL TRULY ALLOW FOR US TO THEN LOOK AT OUR LONG TERM NEEDS.

WE KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW, IF I JUST TALK ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES IN PARTICULAR, AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT INCREASING OUR SWORN STRENGTH, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NEW OFFICERS ALSO HAVE PLACES TO GO.

AND WE KNOW THAT THERE IS CAPACITY AT OUR EXISTING SUBSTATIONS.

SO I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO COME BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING IN A LOT OF ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AND ANYTHING THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO THEN ADD TO OUR SURPLUS LIST. SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE WILL UNDERTAKE.

AND THEN BEFORE THOSE INVESTMENTS ARE MADE, WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT ASSET IS GOING TO BE USED BY THE CITY.

AND IF IT'S NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE AN ASSET THAT WE NEED, THEN WE DEFINITELY WILL NOT BE PUTTING THAT TYPE OF AN INVESTMENT FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE INTO IT. WE NEED TO PROBABLY SELL A LOT OF STUFF AS IS.

SO, MAYOR, I HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS AND I THINK I'LL PROBABLY RUN OVER TIME, BUT I WILL BE DONE WITH ALL OF MY QUESTIONS AND NOT TAKE ADDITIONAL ROUNDS IF YOU JUST LET ME FINISH. GO AHEAD. YEAH, WE'LL ROLL IT INTO YOUR NEXT ROUND.

I SEE, MR. ROTH. SO MY TWO QUESTIONS ARE NUMBER ONE ON SLIDE TEN FOR NEXT STEPS.

WHY WOULD IT TAKE TILL FISCAL YEAR 28 TO START THIS KIND OF TRANSITION TO AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.

SO AND AGAIN I'LL RELY ON THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OR BUDGET DIRECTOR FOR SOME ASSISTANCE HERE.

BUT I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME ANALYSIS THAT'S REQUIRED TO DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO SET OUR RATE, THAT WE CHARGE BACK TO THE DEPARTMENTS. SO THERE HAS TO BE A WAY THAT WE DO IT EITHER BY SQUARE FOOTAGE OR BY NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.

BUT WE SET A RATE THAT IS THEN CHARGED BACK TO EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

NONE OF THAT ANALYSIS IS DONE. WE WOULD ALSO NEED SOME SORT OF A FUND BALANCE TO START OUT WITH IN AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.

THANKS, JOHN. AND I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE DONE IN FISCAL EARLIER THAN FISCAL YEAR 28.

BUT WE WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME THINKING ABOUT IT AND DETERMINE WHETHER IT REALLY IS THE BEST APPROACH.

IT HAS BEEN A GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT SINCE ITS INCEPTION, AND JUST MAKING A DECISION TO CHANGE IT TO AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND.

WE REALLY WANT TO THINK THROUGH THAT VERY STRATEGICALLY BEFORE WE ACTUALLY PULL A TRIGGER TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF CHANGE LIKE THAT.

WELL, EXCELLENT ANSWER, BECAUSE MY LAST ITEM IS TO SAY THAT THE INTERNAL SERVICE ACCOUNT MODEL IS VERY INTERESTING, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT WAS IT'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR ME ANYHOW.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT AND HOW YOU WOULD PLAN TO ROLL THAT OUT IF WE WANTED TO GO THAT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. AND SO I THINK THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS IDENTIFIED AS A NEXT STEP TO EXPLORE AT THIS POINT. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW AN INTERNAL SERVICE FUND OPERATES BY CHARGING THEIR EXPENSES TO THE OTHER CUSTOMER DEPARTMENTS.

AND SO THE REVENUE EXPENSES FOR THOSE FUNDS ARE EQUAL OUT BY CHARGING THE CUSTOMER DEPARTMENTS.

OKAY, I'M ALL FINISHED. THANKS SO MUCH. AND IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT AS WELL, THANK YOU TO OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND TO OUR DIRECTOR.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IS TAKE THE TIME TO TRULY APPROACH THIS FROM A STRATEGIC PERSPECTIVE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL. WE TALK ABOUT PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, AND THAT WILL REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. SO AS WE GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND SO FORTH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO COME BACK AND UPDATE THE CITY COUNCIL ON KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING.

BUT WE AT LEAST WANTED TO START AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE THINKING RIGHT NOW.

BUT DEFINITELY WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO HAVE ALL THIS IMPLEMENTED WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. MR. ROFF RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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THIS IS A MASSIVE PROJECT. WE HAVE 500 BUILDINGS.

AND THEY'RE ALL IN DIFFERENT STAGES OF OF NEED FOR DECAY, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL THAT THAT YOU ALL HAVE A PRIORITY PLAN ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT POSSIBLY, AND I'M ASKING YOU THAT THOSE, THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE OCCUPIED THAT ARE ACTUALLY OPERATIONAL WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONES THAT YOU'D WANT TO FOCUS ON INITIALLY.

TRY TO GET THE SMALL THE MAJOR ITEMS IN THOSE BUILDINGS TAKEN CARE OF.

I NOTICED THAT IT SEEMED LIKE YOU HAD ABOUT $150 MILLION OF OF LISTINGS THERE, BUT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY OF THE CULTURAL FACILITIES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE THE CITY TO TO MAINTAIN.

AND I THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE.

AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE REDOING SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS WITH SOME OF OUR, OUR PARTNER YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES TO TAKE ON SOME OF THOSE COSTS AS POSSIBLE AND ALSO TO PARTICIPATE IN THE THE PLANNING AND THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOME OF THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.

AND CERTAINLY THIS IS A, A PROCESS THAT REQUIRES A, AN IMMEDIATE MEDIUM AND A LONG TERM SOLUTION. AND I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO TRY TO CREATE THAT, THAT PROGRAM WITH THAT, WITH THAT SCHEDULING IN MIND. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

AND TO THE POINT ABOUT THE CULTURAL FACILITIES DURING THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, LIBRARIES, PARKS AND REC CULTURAL FACILITIES HAD THEIR OWN PROPOSITIONS WHICH WERE INCLUDED AND FUNDED. HOWEVER, CITY FACILITIES, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THOSE THAT YOU SEE LISTED IN THE APPENDIX, WERE CUT FROM THE PROGRAM. SO THAT'S WHY WE FOCUSED ON THOSE. BUT YES, SIR.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, I WAS WONDERING IF THESE IF YOUR BUDGET ITEMS INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL AND REMEDIATION ISSUES, ANY SORT OF OTHER STRUCTURAL AND MAJOR CAPITAL COSTS, RATHER THAN JUST ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF OF ROOFS AND AIR CONDITIONING, ETC.. YES, SIR. SO WE WOULD USE THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE FUNDING FOR THE SYSTEM LEVEL REPLACEMENTS TO EXTEND THE USEFUL LIFE AND MINIMAL REPAIRS FOR PATCHING OF ROOFS OR REPLACING SOMETHING THAT BROKE WOULD COME OUT OF OUR OPERATING FUND. AND YES, SIR, WE DO INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL ABATEMENT OF LEAD, ASBESTOS, MOLD, ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE FIND IN THE COURSE OF CONSTRUCTION OR JUST GENERAL OPERATION.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT AGENDA ITEM OR BRIEF ITEM D ALL RIGHT, MADAM CITY MANAGER. ANDREW. MR. MAYOR, WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR STAYING WITH US TODAY.

WE KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF ITEMS. WE DO APPRECIATE YOU.

AND THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE PLANNED FOR THIS AGENDA.

WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU. WONDERFUL.

WILL THERE BE NO FURTHER? MR. MAYOR, DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER?

[Open Microphone Speakers (Part 2 of 2)]

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS. YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY. FIRST SPEAKER MR. LAWRENCE PHILLIPS, YOU MAY BEGIN.

DOLORES PHILLIPS, YOU DO HAVE A HANDOUT. YES, IT WAS DISTRIBUTED.

LOOK AT THE HANDOUT. IT'S ONE PAGE. YOU ALSO WERE EMAILED HANDOUTS.

MY DAD EARNED HIS MONEY, HIS STOCKS, HIS SHARES FROM RIGHT HERE IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

LONE STAR GAS COMPANY. CITY OF DALLAS WITH THEIR.

ENDLESS LINKS, CONNECTIONS AND NETWORKS. HAD MY DAD GOING BACK TO CORSICANA TO FEND FOR HIMSELF AS AN INCAPACITATED ELDER. WHEN ROBERT GRODIN AND SOME OF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH ROBERT GRODIN FOR DALLAS TARGETING THIS NON-MINORITY MALE. TWO DECADES MY SENIOR FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

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SO WHEN YOU REWIND AND PLAY BACK ONE OF YOUR OWN, TWO OF YOUR OWN, THREE OF YOUR OWN STATED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RIGHT THE WRONG WITH THE FABRICATED POLICE REPORT. MISS CUSUMANO OR CUSUMANO.

SHERRY. MISS VELEZ THORNE, APOLOGIZE. YOU HAVE PHARMACEUTICAL RECORDS THAT'S FALSIFIED.

YOU HAVE A FABRICATED POLICE REPORT. 02732918.

USE BEHIND THE SCENES. OFF THE RECORD. YOU HAVE A WHOLE FORMER DEPUTY CLERK, AUGUST 2024, WHO REFERENCED YOUR MAYHEM HERE. SHE'S NO LONGER ON HER JOB, BUT SHE WAS CONVICTED BECAUSE SHE BELIEVED WHAT YOU SAID. SO IN ALL REALITY, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL BELIEVING FABRICATIONS THAT YOU DID AS RETALIATION.

MAYOR JOHNSON, MAYOR JOHNSON, MY DAD WAS CRYING FOR ME NOT TO LEAVE HIM.

HE'S THE ONLY THING I KNOW. WHEN Y'ALL DO Y'ALL INVESTIGATIONS, YOU GOTTA GO FURTHER DEEP THAN YOUR AGENDA, THAN WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO APPEASE. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT SURROUNDING YOU, PROTECTING YOU WHEN YOU ARE IN ALL REALITY ABOUT CORRUPTION AND COVER UPS, LIES AND DECEITS THAT PUT PEOPLE IN THEIR GRAVES BEFORE THEIR TIME. MAYOR JOHNSON, MY DADDY WAS CRYING.

HE'S ALL I KNOW. I'M. PLEASE UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT PLAYING.

I'M HUMBLY SPEAKING TO YOU THAT Y'ALL FABRICATIONS IS ALL IN ANOTHER JURISDICTION.

DESTROYING LIVES. MAYOR JOHNSON, IT STARTED IN 2009.

IT WAS 3911 CALLS MADE. THEY ERASED TWO WITHIN A WEEK TIME.

CITY. SECRETARY JOHNSON. NO. AND YOU ERASE 2012 2012.

ALL OF MY SPEAKING IN 2012 HAVE BEEN ERASED. SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, SOME OF THE GLITCHES, SOME OF THE GLITCHES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS IS IS INTENSE.

HASSAN. HASSAN, THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING US. IT'S YOUR HOUSE.

I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO MAKE MY. I'LL BE FIGHTING WITH YOU I DON'T I DON'T FIGHT POLICE.

I NEED MY NAME. YOU USE THAT AGAINST MY HARD WORK.

JUSTIFICATION FOR YOU TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIVES.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THIS IS HASSAN HASSAN FROM FOURNI AND YOUR CITIZEN SINCE 2023.

I'M SORRY. LET ME CALL YOUR NAME AGAIN. HASSAN, THIS IS HASSAN.

HASSAN. HASSAN. HASSAN. THANK YOU. FROM FOURNI AMERICAN CITIZENS SINCE 2023, I LIKE TO APPRECIATE U.S.

GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IN DE-ESCALATING THE SITUATION.

PRETTY RECENTLY, BETWEEN PAKISTAN AND INDIA, THEY WERE GOING ON A WAR AND US DID A PRETTY I APPRECIATE YOUR ROLE IN DE-ESCALATING THE SITUATION AND DEFUZING THE SITUATION AND BROKERING THE CEASEFIRE BETWEEN PAKISTAN AND INDIA BEFORE THERE WAS A REGIONAL CONFLICT.

MY CONCERN IS I WOULD WHY HASN'T HAD US HAS THE SAME POLICY FOR THE CONFLICT THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING BETWEEN PALESTINE AND ISRAEL SINCE THE LAST 20 PLUS MONTHS? THE US WAS VERY PROACTIVE IN DE-ESCALATING BROKERING THE CEASEFIRE BETWEEN PAKISTAN AND INDIA.

BUT THIS WAR THAT'S GOING ON FOR THE 20 PLUS MONTHS.

THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE FOR THIS SITUATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I. JUST DID THIS ROLE TO DE-ESCALATE THE SITUATION BETWEEN PARKS AND SO THAT THERE TO MAINTAIN THE REGIONAL STABILITY THE IN THE SAME WAY THERE'S REGIONAL STABILITY INSTABILITY ALREADY HAPPENING IN, IN THE BETWEEN THE PALESTINE AND ISRAEL CONFLICT IN WHICH SYRIA, LEBANON, YEMEN AND NOW EVEN IRAN HAS BEEN INVOLVED AND IT HAS BECOME A FLASHPOINT.

SO THE DESTRUCTION AND AND THE DEVASTATION THAT IS CAUSED BY THIS CONFLICT HAS BEEN VERY TREMENDOUS AND VERY UNPRECEDENTED. LET'S TALK ABOUT PEACE.

LET BETTER SENSE PREVAIL. MISTER MAYOR JOHNSON, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO USE YOUR PLATFORM, TO USE YOUR POSITION, TO USE YOUR POWER TO DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO INFLUENCE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO BROKER YET ANOTHER CEASEFIRE, WHICH HE LITERALLY BROKERED NOT A FEW MONTHS AGO, BUT LITERALLY A FEW WEEKS AGO.

SO IF IF THE US CAN BROKER CEASEFIRE OVER THERE, US CAN CERTAINLY BROKERED CEASEFIRE OVER HERE, WHICH THE WORLD DIRELY NEEDS WORLD DEARLY NEEDS PEACE.

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BERNIE MAC IS NOT PRESENT. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT. MADAM SECRETARY. MADAM SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY? NO FURTHER BUSINESS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN, IT'S 6:34 P.M.

IN THIS MEETING IN THE CITY COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.