[Special Sign District Advisory Committee on July 15, 2025.]
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ARE YOU RECORDING? READY? OKAY, IT'S NOW 10 15 AND UC SUMMARY COMMITTEE IS HEREBY CALL
LET'S GO THROUGH OUR LEVEL CALL.
TODD, YOU WANNA VIRTUALLY HERE.
AND THEN IS THIS A I GUEST THAT SPEAKER.
AND YOU UM, MURPHY IS ABSENT, SO HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S MISSING.
UM, THIS MORNING WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THE SPECIAL SIGN DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I'M SCOTT ROPER, SUPERVISOR OF THE SIGN REVIEW, INSPECTION, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT CITY OF DALLAS.
WE HAVE TWO CASES THIS MORNING.
CASE SIGN 2 5 0 0 0 4 6 0 IN AND SIGN 2 5 0 0 0 4 6 1.
BOTH ARE LOCATED AT 2 7 0 0 COMMERCE STREET.
BOTH ARE ZONE DEEP EL NEAR EAST DIS NEAR EAST SIGN.
DISTRICT SIGN 2 5 0 0 4 6 0 AND SIGN 2 5 0 0 0 4 6 1 ARE APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS BY JOSEPHINE GONZALEZ OF PATTISON ID FOR 234 SQUARE FOOT AND THE 149 SQUARE FOOT LED ILLUMINATED LETTER SIGN ONE WILL FACE CLOVER STREET AND THE OTHER WILL FACE HENRY STREET RESPECTIVELY.
THESE ARE DEEP L ON THE NEAR EAST SIGN DISTRICT ZONE PD 2 6 9 TRACK A SIGN 2 5 0 0 0 4 6 0 IS A 234 SQUARE FOOT.
LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTER SIGN DURING THE WORDS WWEX GROUP ON THE FACADE FACING CLOVER STREET SIGN 2 5 0 0 0 4 6 1 IS A 149 SQUARE FOOT.
LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTER SIGN BEARING THE WORDS WWEX GROUP ON THE FACADE FACING HENRY STREET.
APPLICANT CODE SECTION MET IS 51 A DASH SEVEN 1300 DEBELL NEAR EAST SIGN DISTRICT.
THE PURPOSE IS FROM 51 A DASH 7 13 0 2.
SUBJECT SIDE IS LOCATED WITHIN DEBELL NEAR EAST SIGN DISTRICT.
IT'S THE APPROXIMATELY FOUR FIFTHS OF A MILE NORTHEAST OF CITY HALL, EAST OF IH 3 45 AND NORTH OF IH 30.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SIGN DISTRICTS WITH A DEEP L BEING POINTED OUT AERIAL MAP AND ZONING MAP.
BOTH SIGNS ARE STARRED ON THE MAPS SIGN A THE FIRST SIGN FOR, UH, SIGN 2 5 0 0 0 4 6 0.
THE PROPOSED SIGN IS TO BE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH FACADE FACING CLOVER STREET.
THIS IS ONE OF TWO ATTACHED SIGNS TO BE INSTALLED AT THIS SITE AND THE ONLY ONE INSTALLED ON THIS FACADE, THIS SIGN WILL BE 234 SQUARE FEET.
SORRY, POINTING THE WRONG WAY.
I MOVED THE PHOTO AND FORGOT TO MOVE THE ARROW.
BUT WITH THE ARROW POINTING THERE, UH, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN 2022 THERE WERE TWO SIGNS PERMITTED FOR WORLDWIDE EXPRESS AND THEY BOTH WENT THROUGH AND WERE APPROVED ON THIS FACADE.
THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS APPROVED AT A LOWER ELEVATION.
SO IS THAT STILL EXISTING ON THE FACADE?
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I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ONE WAS EVER INSTALLED.YEAH, BECAUSE I'M SENDING RULE ABOUT HOW MANY ARE ALLOWED BY FACADE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ONE WAS EVER ACTUALLY INSTALLED, BUT THE WEST ELEVATION WAS INSTALLED AND THAT ONE'S BEING REPLACED WITH THE ONE THAT'S APPLIED FOR TODAY.
AND THIS IS, UH, ANOTHER ILLUSTRATION OF THE LOCATION OF THE NEW SIGN.
THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SIGN, 41 FOOT FOUR INCH BY FIVE FOOT EIGHT INCH WITH AN AREA OF 234 SQUARE FOOT.
IT'LL BE ALL WHITE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FRAME THAT IT'S MOUNTED TO.
AND THE FRAME WILL OVERHANG THE PARAPET AND IT'LL MOUNT TO THE ROOF.
OH, YOU'VE GOT THE ENGINEERING.
UH, SCOTT, LET ME ASK A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS BECAUSE I READ THAT LIKE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ATTACH IT TO THE ROOF.
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S A FLAT ROOF AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND WHEN THEY DRILL AND MOUNT IT, THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND PASS TO BE SURE IT'S WATERPROOFED.
BUT WHEN THE PART THAT HANGS OVER ON THE STREET FACING SIDE, ARE THERE ANY, IS THERE ANYTHING THERE? I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE DRAWINGS TO STABILIZE THAT.
IF YOU GET LIKE AN UPDRAFT OR SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S VERY STABLE FROM THE BACKSIDE.
ALTHOUGH THE ENGINEERING SPECIFICATIONS LITERALLY BLEW MY MIND BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL OF IT.
BUT ON THIS SIDE, IS THERE ANYTHING TO STABILIZE IF YOU LIVE THERE UNDER WHERE IT SAYS GROUP? MM-HMM.
IT HAS THREE EIGHTHS DIAMETER THROUGH BOLTS AT THE, AT THE LETTERS AND THAT'S DOWN INTO THE FRAME.
IS THAT ACTUALLY GOING INTO THE BUILDING AS WELL? YES.
THROUGH BOLTS THROUGH THE LETTERS.
'CAUSE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE THINGS AND YOU KNOW, MY BRAIN'S NOT IN QUITE WELL YET, BUT IT'S, YEAH, IT LOOKED LIKE THEY MIGHT NOT BEING ABLE TO STABILIZE IT.
AND THIS IS WHERE SIGN 2 5 0 0 0 4 6 1 STARTS AND THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION.
THE PROPOSED SIGN IS TO BE LOCATED ON THE WEST FACADE FACING HENRY STREET.
THIS IS THE SECOND OF TWO, UH, TYPE SIGNS TO BE INSTALLED AT THIS SITE.
THE ONLY INSTALLED ON THE FAC ON THIS FACADE.
THIS SIGN WILL BE 149 SQUARE FEET AND WE WE'LL BE REPLACING THE WORLDWIDE EXPRESS SIGN THAT WAS PERMITTED IN 2022.
UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THIS COMMITTEE IN JULY OF 2022.
AND THERE ARE THE DRAWINGS FOR THAT.
AGAIN, UH, ALL WHITE EXCEPT FOR THE RACEWAYS THAT ARE PAINTED TO MATCH THE BRICK.
IT IS 33 FOOT, TWO INCH, APPROXIMATELY BY FIVE FOOT EIGHT INCH, UH, 149 SQUARE FOOT AND THE ENGINEERING AND THEN CITE PHOTOS, SIGNS ON THE AREA AND THEN STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BUILDING.
ANY QUESTIONS? I NOTICED IT WAS AT THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL ABOVE STREET.
DAVID, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, TODD.
I'M SORRY, DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH, I DID.
ON SIGN 4 61 ON THE, UH, SECTION DETAIL, THERE'S A, A NOTE FOR THE CAST ACCENT.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THAT CAST ACCENT? I MISSED THAT THOUGHT.
LOOKING TO SEE CENTER, CENTER SCREEN BOTTOM.
UM, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CHANNEL LETTER THERE'S A, A BLOCK THAT SAYS CAST ACCENT.
SO ON THE WALL ITSELF, IF THERE'S AN ACCENT, SEE ABOVE THE WINDOW THERE, IT'S HARD TO SEE IN THIS PICTURE.
REALLY? YEAH, IT'S IT UP, IT'S THE ACCENT BETWEEN THE WINDOW,
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BETWEEN THE WINDOWS.YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, UH, YOU, YOU CAN SEE IT BETTER ON THE, ON THE LEFT, LEFT OF THE W BETWEEN THE RED BRICK, THERE'S A, A WHITE GRAYISH, UH, CONCRETE.
IT'S THE LINE THAT'S GOING RIGHT THERE.
IT STICKS OUT BETWEEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE W.
IT STICKS OUT FROM, UH, FROM BEING FLUSH ON ON THE WALL.
IT'S, IT'S SLIGHTLY, YOU KNOW.
SO ALL, ALL THAT'S DOING IS THE, UH, THE RACEWAY AND THEN, AND THESE, UH, HELP ME ON HERE
SO THAT'S HOLDING, HOLDING THE ON SO THAT THE FACE OF THE SIGNS ARE ALL FLAT AND, AND ALIGNED.
SO THE OTHER SIGN'S DOING THE SAME THING.
SO IT'S ALREADY EXISTING AND DOING THAT, THIS WOULD JUST BE DOING THE SAME.
YEAH, IT'S A BUILDING FEATURE.
TODD, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? 'CAUSE WE CAN LET OUR, OUR GUEST SPEAKER ADDRESS SOME OF THESE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, TODD? THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
AND MATT, IF YOU WANNA WEIGH IN, YOU NEED TO TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
SO WE CAN COUNT YOU AS BEING PHYSICALLY AND VISIBLY PRESENT HERE BECAUSE WE WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS.
WOULDN'T LET ME ADD IT EARLIER.
SO THANKS, THANKS FOR LETTING, UH, ME JOIN TODAY.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, SEEMS LIKE SCOTT KIND OF GAVE A, AN INTRO THERE.
UM, AS STATED BEFORE, THIS IS A REBRANDING EFFORT BY THE SAME COMPANY.
UM, SO WE ACTUALLY HAD PERMITS FOR TOP OF BUILDING SIGNAGE ON THE SOUTH.
THEY DECIDED THEY ELECTED NOT TO PROCEED WITH INSTALLATION WHEN THE PERMIT WAS ISSUED A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
UH, 'CAUSE THEY WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF REBRANDING.
SO THE REQUEST NOW BACK BEFORE YOU IS WITH THE NEW LOGO ON THE, UH, SOUTH SIDE AND THEN ON THE WEST ELEVATION TO REPLACE LIKE, FOR LIKE EXISTING JUST WITH THE NEW LOGO, SAME MOUNTING METHOD WITH THE CUSTOMIZED RACEWAYS TO ALLOW FOR MOUNTING ON THE, UM, UNEVEN SURFACE WITH THE PROJECTING BRICK COLUMNS, THE CASTSTONE ELEMENTS AND SO FORTH.
SO SAME MOUNTING METHOD AS BEFORE.
MOUNTING METHOD FOR THE SOUTH ELEVATION AT THE TOP WITH THE UM, UH, STRINGER SYSTEM, IF YOU WILL, MOUNTING INTO THE ROOFTOP, UH, IS, IS REQUIRED BY THE LANDLORD.
UH, WE DID THE SAME MOUNTING METHOD FOR THE EXISTING TRG SIGN THAT'S THERE AT THE TOP OF THE WEST ELEVATION.
SO WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND OPENED THE ROOF ATTACHED TO THE ROOF DECK, SEALED EVERYTHING UP NICE AND NEAT.
SO, UM, THAT'S IT, THAT'S ALL THAT I REALLY HAD TO ADD, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THESE TWO CASES.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR DO LET'S, WE SAID WE DO IT AS TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FIRST SIGN, WHICH WAS THE 2,700 SIGN? UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
THIS IS, I'LL SECOND, SECOND FROM, OH, YOU GOT BEAT OUT.
UH, SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO A ROLL CALL.
SO LARRY? YES, IN FAVOR, DAVID.
IN FAVOR, TODD? IN FAVOR? IN FAVOR.
AND THE CHAIR VOTE'S IN FAVOR.
SO THE FIRST SIGN IS APPROVED AS PRESENTED.
AND LET'S GO ON TO THE SECOND SIGN.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT SIGN? THIS IS, THIS IS I'LL, I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO I A CHANCE TO, IT IS TWO WORDS IN HERE.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HALL.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MATT.
WE APPRECIATE YOU WEIGHING IN WITH US.
AND, UH, WHAT IS THE SCHEDULE FOR GOING TO, DOES THIS ONE HAVE TO GO ON TO CPC AND THEN FORWARD OR WHAT'S THE REACHING, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WEEK TIME IS, SCOTT? YEAH, THIS WILL GO TO CPC NEXT MONDAY.
OKAY, DO WE HAVE, OH, WE HAVE MINUTES.
AND I DIDN'T BRING THAT COPY OF MINUTES.
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UH, DID ANYBODY FIND ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES? I WAS NOT ABLE TO TO READ 'EM UNDER WHILE YOU GUYS DID, SO NO, I DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH THE MINUTES.TODD, DID YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE MEETING MINUTES? NO, I, I DID NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES.
IN THAT CASE, DAVID, I GUESS THE, JUST STATED OKAY.
AND WE HAVE THE, UM, SIGN ANNOUNCE THAT WE NEED TO SIGN UP ON RIGHT NOW, SCOTT, OR DO WE NEED TO YOU TO SEND? OKAY, THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE? NO, THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS.
SO WE'VE COMPLETED ALL OUR BUSINESS SO THE MEETING IS COMPLETE.
WELL, YOU GUYS WERE EFFICIENT.
DRIVE DOWN HERE FOR A 13 MINUTE.
WELL NO, WE ACTUALLY WERE HERE EARLY BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL ISSUES.