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          , SOME 
          [Dallas Park and Recreation Board	on August 7, 2025.]
ARE HAVING A GOOD SUMMER. 
          LET ME START BY INTRODUCING OUR BRAND NEW BOARD, SECRETARY TO  FINDING PLACE. 
          YOU SEE HERE, VERY EXCITED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, GREAT EXPERIENCE, WHICH YOU . 
          LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. 
          UH, YOU, UH, CHAIR, UH, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AND SERVE THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          EXCITED AND, UH, TO BE WORKING WITH YOU HERE. 
          THIS IS A TROUBLESOME SUPPORT. 
          SO, , I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBER IS GETTING CLEARLY OLD TODAY IS THIS BIRTHDAY, MR. LAUGHTER FOR WHAT IF THAT, UH, WE ARE GOING TO MADAM SECRETARY PUBLIC SPEAKERS, AND, UH, WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS HERE FIRST. 
          SURE. 
          MR. HASANI, BUT YEAH, YOU WANT TO LET ME READ THE, THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. 
          EACH SPEAKER WILL GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE CHAIR. 
          ONLY ANY SPEAKER WHO MAKES PERSONAL AND PERTINENT PROFANE OR SLAN REMARKS OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE PARK BOARD OR RESORTS TO  OBJECTS WILL BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY EN BARGED FROM THE MEETING. 
          AND OUR, UM, OUR FIRST SPEAKER, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO TO MITCH ROBERTS. 
          UM, MR. HASSANI WILL JOIN US IN A MOMENT. 
          WE CAN START AND YOUR TIME STARTS NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, BOARD MEMBER STAFF. 
          MY NAME IS KEN ROBERTS AND I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE AGENDA. 
           TRINITY RIVER AUDUBON CENTER IS TOWARD MARK. 
          IT'S AN AMAZING HISTORY OF TRINITY RIVER. 
          AON CENTER SITS ISLAND  SIGNIFICANT TRANSFORMATION. 
          THERE'S CLEARED THE LAND FOR AGRICULTURE. 
          BY THE MIDDLE OF 20TH CENTURY SANDY GRAVEL MINING OPERATIONS DOMINATED THE AREA GRAVEL WITH MINING, DONE THROUGH STRIP MINING. 
          PROFOUNDLY DISTURBED THE LAND, BUT PROVIDED ESSENTIAL MATERIALS FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH, SIGNIFICANTLY ACCELERATING THE PLANTS, THE EXTRACTION LEFT BEHIND LARGE BIDS WITH MANY DEPLETED MINE SITES BEING FILLED LEGALLY AS PERMITTED LANDFILL. 
          WHILE SOME SITES WERE, UH, WERE NOT REGULATED AND OFTEN CREATED ILLEGAL DUMPING, TWO LANDFILL OPERATIONS WERE INCORPORATION ON THE TRINITY RIVER LAND. 
          BY THE EARLY 1960S, ILLEGAL DUMPING BEGAN IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES, WHICH CREATED SIGNIFICANT NUISANCE PROBLEMS, INCLUDING SPONTANEOUS FIRES THAT WENT ON FROM US, UH, DESPITE FINES, CIVIL COURT, CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS, AND T INJUNCTIONS AGAINST THE DUMP OWNERS. 
          STARTING IN THE LATE 1980S, DUMPING CONTINUED. 
          AND BY 1997, DISCIPLES DESCRIBED AS THE LARGEST ILLEGAL DUMP ON THE STATE. 
          THAT MARKED FEDERAL LAWSUIT IN LATE 1990 RESULTED IN A RULING RULING, FINELY MANDATED ENVIRONMENTAL CLEAN UP THE LAND. 
          THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          BY THEN, THE OWNER OF THE SITE COLLABORATED WITH THE NATIONAL  SOCIETY TO RECLAIM THE LAND PLANTING NATIVE VEGETATION AND CREATING A WILDLIFE FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE. 
          OPENED IN 2008. 
          THE TRINITY RIVER UBON IS NOW A THRIVING NATURAL HABITAT. 
          THIS SUPPORTS MIGRATORY BIRDS NATIVE LOCAL BALL. 
          THE RESTORED LANDSCAPE ALSO PROVIDES CLIMATE BENEFITS ACTING AS A COOLING ZONE WITHIN THE CITY. 
          THE CENTER OFFERS VISITORS AND NEIGHBORS A CHANCE TO ENGAGE WITH NATURE, SHOWCASING HOW ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION CAN HEAL THAT LAND WHILE FOSTERING A DEEPER CONNECTION BETWEEN PEOPLE AND THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          THREE SHORT POINTS. 
          WE ARE SEEKING A SUBJECT MATTER MARKER FROM THE STATE, TEXAS HISTORICAL. 
          UH, THAT MEANS NO RESTRICTION ON THE USE OF THE LAND. 
          SECOND POINT, THERE WILL BE NO BUDGETARY IMPACT. 
          THE FEES WILL BE FILED, UH, WILL BE MADE BY VOLUNTEERS, BY A DONORS. 
          UH, SO THE NEXT STEP, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IF THE BOARD IS APPROVED, THEN IT GOES TO DALLAS COUNTY HISTORICAL PERMISSION, WHICH THEN APPROVES IT, THEN IT GOES STATE. 
          SO IT'LL BE A FEW MONTHS, A LOT OF MONTHS, UH, BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY SEE THE SLIDE, BUT THAT'S THE PROCESS. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
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OUR NEXT, UH, PERSON, UH, SPEAKER IS ZACH THOMPSON. 
          GOOD MORNING, ZACH THOMPSON, 36 0 8 SOUTH FIT YOU. 
          I COME THIS MORNING TO COMMEND A TRANSITION FROM  FIRST TO UNDER , EVERYTHING UNDER THE PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS, I'VE MET WITH NOT ONLY, UH, MONICA PAUL, BUT I MET WITH JOHN, YOUR STAFF THAT YOU HAD DESIGNATED. 
          AND I TOOK SOME POSITIVE STEPS, UH, HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE ONE STEP THAT FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          WE NEVER GOT ANY TYPE OF TRACTION. 
          NO ONE MET WITH US. 
          UH, THE LAST PERSON THAT MET WITH US, OF COURSE, IS NO LONGER THE PERSON IN CHARGE OVER THERE. 
          SO THIS TRANSACTION TRANSITION IS A KEY POINT. 
          BUT I, I CAME THIS MORNING. 
          I NORMALLY SEND EMAILS, UH, BUT NUMBER ONE, GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THIS NEW TRANSITION IS WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN SOUTH DALLAS FAIR AIRPORT. 
          A LOT OF US HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. 
          WE HAVE A PARKING BUSINESS AND OTHER BUSINESSES OUT THERE. 
          SO WE WANT TO HAVE THAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP. 
          AND THEN NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE FIFA COMING UP. 
          AND WHILE WE'VE MET WITH, UH, MONICA PAUL, UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER RUNNING, ANOTHER, UH, LOT OWNER IN SOUTH DALLAS, THE CONCERN IS WE STILL NEED MORE INFORMATION ON HOW AFRICAN AMERICAN AND HISPANIC WILL HAVE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FIFA ACTIVITY. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THIS DISCUSSION, WHILE POSITIVE, I'M SAYING THE MOVE TO THE DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION IS A POSITIVE MOVE. 
          AND I REMEMBER SENDING AN EMAIL, AND I WON'T SAY A NAME, BUT SOMEBODY ON THIS BOARD SENT ME AN EMAIL AND SAID, I HADN'T BEEN TO ENOUGH MEETINGS. 
          WELL, I'VE BEEN TO ENOUGH MEETINGS AND I'VE SEEN ENOUGH, AND WE DON'T WANT TO REPEAT WHAT WE SAW WITH FAIR PARK FIRST. 
          AND SO, AS I'VE ALWAYS STATED, THEY CALL THEMSELVES FAIR PARK FIRST, BUT SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK WAS LAST. 
          SO I'M HOPING THAT THE PARK RECREATION MOVING FORWARD WOULD FOCUS ON THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE FAIR PART AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY. 
          IF FAIR PARK DOESN'T GROW, THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T GROW, BUT AS FAIR PARK GROWS, THE COMMUNITY GROWS WITH IT. 
          AND SO WE, I WANTED THIS, AGAIN, THIS DIDN'T COME DOWN HERE TO BE, UH, NEGATIVE. 
          I WANNA BE POSITIVE AND THANK YOU, UH, FOR TAKING IT ON. 
          IT'S FIVE YEARS IN THE MAKING. 
          AND SO, AGAIN, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          IT'LL TAKE THREE MINUTES TO SAY THANK YOU. 
          MS. . 
          SPEAKER IS HASANI BROWN, HASANI BURTON. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          CAN YOU SEE ME? AND CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          YES, YOU CAN START YOUR TIME NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          HEY, MY NAME IS HASANI BURTON. 
          I AM FOUNDER OF THE SOUTH DALLAS RENAISSANCE INITIATIVE, AND I AM A MEMBER OF THE CITY OF DALLAS PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. 
          UM, FOR SOME OF YOU, LIKE MY COUNTERPART IN DISTRICT SEVEN, I'VE KNOWN FOR MANY YEARS, BUT I WOULD SAY MOST OF YOU, THIS IS PROBABLY OUR VERY FIRST ENCOUNTER. 
          SO HELLO THERE TO YOU. 
          UM, I'M COMING TO YOU BECAUSE ON TUESDAY, THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, UM, APPROVED A 2025 TO 2028, UH, PLAN THAT INCLUDES MULTIPLE PIECES OF PUBLIC ART TO ENHANCE OUR PUBLIC PARTS HERE IN DALLAS. 
          UH, ONE OF THOSE PIECES, UH, BECAUSE OF ITS, UH, LOCATION TO BE IN WILLIAM BLAIR PARK IS, UH, VERY SPECIAL TO ME, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF WILLIAM BLAIR JR HIMSELF, BUT THIS IS ALSO THE PARK WHERE I TAKE MY SON TO PLAY SOCCER AND FLY AIRPLANES AND TOUCH GRASS AS PEOPLE TEND TO SAY THESE DAYS. 
          SO THIS PARK IS VITAL TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO ME PERSONALLY, UH, WHEN THE PEACE THAT COMES BEFORE, UH, THIS BOARD FROM THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO APPROVE THE LOCATION WITHIN THE PARK, I'M HOPING THAT THIS BOARD WILL, UH, APPROVE THE LOCATION IS THOUGHTFULLY, BUT AS TIMELY AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND NOW THAT YOU'VE MET ME, 
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IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP FACILITATE THAT PROCESS ON MY END, IN MY CAPACITY ON THE PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE AND A MANY YEAR SERVING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 
          AND THAT GOES FOR ANY OF, UH, THE PUBLIC ART PIECES THAT MIGHT, UH, BE GOING INTO PARKS IN DALLAS. 
          UH, PLEASE ALLOW ME TO BE A RESOURCE IF NEED BE. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU ONCE THE WILLIAM BLAIR JUNIOR PARK PIECE GETS FURTHER ALONG THE LINE. 
          TAKE CARE. 
          THANK YOU WITH THAT QUESTION. 
          IS THAT AN HONOR SPEAKER? YES. 
          THAT CONCLUDES SPEAKERS. 
          WITH THAT, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR JUNE 26TH, 2025. 
          MOTION, UH, MR. LAUGHTER ON A  NUMBER 1, 2, 4. 
          DO HAVE A MOTION? SECOND , ANY DISCUSSION? UH, YES. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, I, I READ, I WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE A, UH, A PICTURE OF WHAT THE PLAQUE'S GONNA BE LOOK LIKE. 
          COME LATER ON. 
          NUMBER ONE. 
          I KNOW WE HAVE CONCEPT IDEAS IN THERE. 
          UH, YES SIR. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          SO, AS COMPARED TO, UH, OTHER PLAQUES THAT HAVE COME THROUGH, THIS IS AN EFFORT TO GET, UH, THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS IN THE RIGHT ORDER. 
          SO WE'RE COMING TO THE BOARD TO SHARE A POTENTIAL FOR A PLAQUE THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD WAS OKAY WITH HAVING A PLAQUE OUT THERE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          AND, AND THEN THAT PLAQUE WILL COME BACK FOR LATER APPROVAL. 
          YES, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          I JUST WANNA SPEAK REAL BRIEFLY ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, XL RECREATION CENTER. 
          I WANNA GIVE THANKS, UM, TO EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED RECREATION CENTERS, UH, IN THE LAST BOND. 
          UH, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, ONCE IT'S COMPLETE, WILL BE THE BIGGEST INVESTMENT IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 14 PARKS SINCE CLYDE WARREN. 
          AND IT'LL BE THE BIGGEST THING TO HIT IN EAST DALLAS NEIGHBORHOOD AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. 
          SO I WANNA THANK EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED REC CENTERS. 
          I BELIEVE THERE'S A TOTAL OF FOUR REC CENTERS FOR TOTAL RECONSTRUCTION OF BRAND NEW BUILD, UH, AND THE BOND. 
          UH, THESE, THESE, THESE FACILITIES ARE VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND I WANT TO GIVE ONE FINAL SHOUT OUT TO MR. KESSLER FOR ALWAYS BEING THERE FOR US ON SITE, UH, EVERYWHERE. 
          WE NEEDED HIM TO MEET WITH US AND LISTEN TO US. 
          HE WAS THERE. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA JUST CROSS THIS REC CENTER. 
          SO THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          ANY COMMENTS THAT ALL IN FAVOR SAY A A WE BOTH ATION NUMBER FIVE PROPOSAL. 
          AND DO I HAVE MOTION MR. BLAIR SECONDARY CLIENT ASSESSMENT DISCUSSION? WITH THAT ALL IN FAVOR ALSO. 
          SO WE DONE AGENDA DONE . 
          SO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE I WOULD LIKE SHARE. 
          DAVID MARKEY, A GREAT FRIEND OF S THANKS FOR BEING HERE. 
          AND, UH,  WITH THAT, WE GO TO OUR NEXT BRIEFING, THE FINANCIAL SUSTAINABLE PARK CREATION SYSTEM IS THE, UH, MR. CO. 
          YES, GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR BOARD. 
          UH, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION THIS MORNING. 
          SO, TALKING ABOUT A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC TODAY. 
          OF COURSE, I'M NOT GONNA DO A LONG INTRO, BUT, UH, JUST WANT TO PREVIEW FOR YOU THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SERIES OF THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS COMING FORWARD TO THE BOARD FREE Y'ALL TO, TO CONSIDER AND GIVE INPUT ON, ON WAYS TO, TO REALLY ENSURE THAT OUR PARK SYSTEM IS FUNDED IN A SUSTAINABLE WAY GOING FORWARD AS, UM, BUDGETS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE GET A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING. 
          SO I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO ROBIN STEIN. 
          Y'ALL KNOW ROBIN, SHE'S THE SUPERINTENDENT HERE IN THE PARK SYSTEM. 
          AND THEN SHE, WE'LL HAND IT OFF TO, UH, SPECIAL GUEST SPEAKER THAT WE HAVE REMOTE. 
          SO WE FIRST THOUGHT IT'S NOT, 
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LOOKS LIKE THIS, CHRISTINA. 
          AWESOME. 
          WE WAITING JUST TO PUT IT IN CONTEXT. 
          I, NOT THAT , THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE DID WITH THE BOARD AT A RETREAT ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. 
          DISCUSS, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD ON LOOKING AT WAYS TO CREATE A SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL PARK SYSTEM? AS BRIAN MENTIONED, THIS WILL BE A SERIES OF PRODUCTS OUT 5 6 3. 
          ONCE SAY, TODAY WE, WE HAVE DAVID MARQUIS, WHO ALSO WRITE A WHITE PAPER FOR US. 
          SIMILAR, WHAT WE DID IN 2015 WITH TRUST PUBLIC PLAN, WHO HELPED KICKSTART A LOT OF YOU ALSO A LOT MORE INVESTMENTS IN OUR GREEN SPACE. 
          AND THAT GREEN PAPER IDENTIFIED THOSE THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND IDENTIFY HOW TO ENHANCE OUR PARTNERSHIPS. 
          AND IT IDENTIFY OUR FOCUS ON THOSE FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS WHERE WE HAVE RECORD BOND PROGRAMS, UH, THE LAST TWO BOND PROGRAMS, THANKS TO YOU ALL ADVOCACY AND YOUR HEALTH. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO DIG DEEP INTO THE CHALLENGES, UH, WHAT WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA BASE IN THE FUTURE WITH OUR PARTS THAT NATURE. 
          I CAN, I CAN TALK THROUGH THE INTRO SLIDES THAT WE HAD BEFORE WE GO INTO THE, THE MAIN PRESENTATION FROM OUR GUEST SPEAKER. 
          UM, I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE IT IN YOUR, UH, BINDERS. 
          UH, BUT THE BA BASICALLY THE BACKGROUND ON THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE'VE HAD ABOUT A DECADE OF REALLY STEADY BUDGET GROWTH AND EXPANSION OF THE, OF PARK RECREATION SERVICES. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE NOW IN A, IN AN AREA OF MORE AUSTERITY AND WE'RE MOVING INTO A BUDGETS THAT ARE GONNA REMAIN FLAT OR DECLINE, UH, SLIGHTLY PREMIER YEAR, UM, EVEN AS INFLATION CONTINUES TO RISE. 
          SO IN, IN RESPONSE, THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO EVALUATE ALL SORTS OF REVENUE AND EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR STRATEGICALLY MAXIMIZING REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, COMPENSATE FOR THE REDUCTION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IN THE GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATIONS, AND ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE ON THIS TRAJECTORY OF GROWTH. 
          UM, AND THIS IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR DEPARTMENT PRIORITY OF OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE. 
          SO WE'RE CURRENTLY FACING OUR, UH, FIRST, UH, BUDGET REDUCTION. 
          UM, IN FIVE YEARS. 
          OUR REVENUES ARE CONSISTENTLY BELOW TARGET. 
          AND WE SEE THAT, UH, IF WE WANNA STAY ON THIS TRAJECTORY, THE GAP, UH, TO FUND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE GET FROM THE GENERAL FUND, WHAT WE EARN FROM OUR REVENUES, UM, AND WHAT WE NEED TO OPERATE IS, IS GETTING BIGGER. 
          SO OVER THE COMING MONTHS, UM, LIKE RYAN AND JOHN SAID, WE'RE GONNA BE BRINGING FORWARD A SERIES OF BRIEFINGS TO EXPLORE NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR REVENUE GENERATION THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED, UH, BY THE BOARD TO IMPROVE THE DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO SUSTAIN OPERATIONAL GROWTH WHILE REDUCING RELIANCE ON THE GENERAL FUND. 
          SOME OF THOSE TOPICS. 
          UM, ONE OF WHICH THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TODAY WILL BE THE NON-TRADITIONAL USE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITIES, CONCESSION OPPORTUNITIES, UH, REVISITING OUR PRICING STRATEGIES AND LOOKING AT GOVERNANCE AND REVENUE MODELS. 
          SO, UM, AS I SAID, WE, WE WILL SEE THIS SERIES OF BRIEFINGS, UM, OVER THE COMING MONTHS. 
          AND, AND BEFORE ROBIN, HANDS OFF TO OUR GUEST SPEAKER WHO ARE GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF HIS TIME, I DID WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE, THE CHART. 
          I KNOW IT'S NOT ON THE SCREEN, BUT I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE IT. 
          AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO VISUALIZE THAT CHART BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET BEING RELATIVELY HIGH, BUT WE KNOW EXPENSES ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO RISE. 
          AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE BE AGGRESSIVE WITH OUR REVENUE GENERATION OPPORTUNITIES 'CAUSE WE CAN, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO GROW AS A PART SYSTEM, IF NOTHING ELSE, JUST TO MEET, YOU KNOW, INFLATION. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AS A, AS A DEPARTMENT AND, AND YOU AS A BOARD TO REALLY PUT A FOCUS ON THIS. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY EMPHASIZING THIS SERIES OF BRIEFINGS BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO, TO REALLY FOCUS ON AS, AS A PARTS SYSTEM. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, CHRISTINA, IF YOU COULD GO TO SLIDE FOUR, UM, THAT'LL, THAT'S THE CHART THAT WE'RE REFERRING TO. 
          UM, AND WE'RE THAT ORANGE, UH, CROSS HATCHED AREA, THAT'S THE GAP WE'RE, UH, TRYING TO BUILD WITH OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. 
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JUST WANNA CLARIFY WHEN WE SAY THE GROWTH, WE HAVE A LOT OF POPULATION GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR PARK SYSTEM, I MEAN, IN THE CITY. 
          AND AS A RESULT, WHEN YOU GET MORE FOLKS UTILIZING THE PARKS, THEN YOUR EXPENSES ARE GONNA GO UP FROM LITTER PICKUP. 
          I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH YOU TRY TO EDUCATE FOLKS ON LITTLE PICKUP, THEN IT'S JUST GONNA BE THE NORM. 
          YOU GOING ACTION SOIL A LOT MORE, YOU'RE GONNA GET A LOT MORE WEAR AND TEAR ON YOUR FLOWERS, YOU NAME IT. 
          AND SO IT REQUIRES TO BE ABLE TO STAY OFF THAT GROWTH OF EXPENSES. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO NOW I'M HAPPY TO INTRODUCE ERIC LANDAU. 
          UM, AT THE PRESIDENT OF THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK CORPORATION, UH, ERIC LEADS THE ONGOING SUCCESS OF THE PARK, OVERSEES ITS DAILY OPERATIONS IN FOSTERS LONG-TERM STABILITY. 
          UM, ERIC PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS A DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AT THE NEW YORK CITY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, WHERE HE OVERSAW PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UH, PRIOR TO JOINING DEP, ERIC WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENTAL GOVERNMENT AND EXTERNAL AFFAIRS AND SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR THE PROSPECT PARK ALLIANCE, WHERE HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING AND STRENGTHENING PROSPECT PARKS PUBLIC RELATIONS. 
          UH, ERIC HAS A MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY AND A BA FROM STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AT TON. 
          SO I'M HAPPY TO, UH, TURN THIS OVER TO ERIC SO THAT HE CAN BEGIN HIS PRESENTATION ON BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          CAN YOU, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? ALRIGHT? GREAT. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          UM, IT'S SO WEIRD TO ALWAYS HEAR SOMEBODY INTRODUCE YOU AND GO THROUGH YOUR, YOUR BACKGROUND. 
          IT MAKES YOU SOUND MUCH, MUCH MORE IMPRESSIVE THAN YOU ACTUALLY ARE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MY PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU ALL THIS MORNING. 
          I'VE HAD THE, THE GREAT PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH JOHN AND HIS TEAM, UM, A NUMBER OF TIMES, UM, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          IN FACT, UM, UH, REALLY ORIGINALLY FACILITATED THROUGH AN ORGANIZATION, THE CITY PARKS ALLIANCE, WHICH IS A NATIONAL, UH, PARK ADVOCACY AND INFORMATION SHARING GROUP OF, UH, CITY PARK LEADERS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, UM, OF WHICH I AM A BOARD MEMBER OF. 
          UM, SO REALLY, REALLY HAPPY TO BE HERE, UM, UH, ASSUMING SOMEONE IS DRIVING THE SLIDES FOR ME, AND IF SO, UH, THANKS. 
          UM, SO BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK, UM, JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU WANNA TALK OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THE FINANCES, UM, BUT BEFORE WE GET TO THE FINANCES, REALLY IMPORTANT I THINK TO JUST SPEND A FEW MINUTES ON JUST KIND OF THE, THE PARK'S HISTORY AND, AND, UM, AND BACKGROUND AND LOCATION. 
          SO, UH, THE PARK IS 85 ACRES, UM, THAT SITS ON THE EAST RIVER, UM, RIGHT IN THE BOROUGH OF BROOKLYN. 
          BROOKLYN OBVIOUSLY ONE OF FIVE BOROUGHS THAT MAKES UP NEW YORK CITY. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          THOSE 85 ACRES STRETCH 1.3 MILES FROM END TO END. 
          AND WHAT'S REALLY UNIQUE ABOUT THE PARK IS HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF ITS HISTORICAL, UM, UH, NATURE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE 1950S, SIXTIES, WHICH IS WHEN THIS PHOTO IS FROM, IS REALLY, UM, THIS WAS REALLY A BIG, BIG PIECE OF NEW YORK CITY'S WORKING WATERFRONT. 
          YOU KNOW, IN THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES, SO MUCH OF OUR GOODS WERE BROUGHT IN BY THE WATERWAYS AND THE PIERS, WHICH MAKE UP THE BULK OF BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK'S, 85 ACRES, UM, WERE A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF THAT WORKING WATERFRONT, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, BY THE 1980S OR SO, I WOULD SAY WE STOPPED AS A CITY UTILIZING THE WATER. 
          AND THESE PIERS FOR THAT PURPOSE, OUR GOODS ARE BROUGHT IN VIA PLANES AND TRUCKS AND NOT SO MUCH BY THE WATERWAYS. 
          AND SO THESE PIERS AND THE UPLAND PROPERTY SAT PRETTY MUCH AS YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LARGELY ABANDONED. 
          AND THE RESULT OF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M SURE WE, WE ALL UNDERSTAND IN, IN, IN CITY GOVERNMENTS WHEN, UH, SPACE IS NOT UTILIZED, IT BECOMES SORT OF URBAN BLIGHT. 
          UH, IT'S BECAME AN INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND AND KIND OF A SCARY, SKETCHY PLACE TO BE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND SO THAT LED TO AN INTERESTING, UH, CHALLENGE, OPPORTUNITY AND LONG-TERM DEBATE, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF MANY, MANY YEARS, WHICH IS WHAT TO DO WITH THIS SPACE. 
          NOW. 
          AT THE TIME, THE PARK WAS OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE PORT AUTHORITY OF NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY. 
          AND THE REALITY OF WHAT EVENTUALLY BECAME BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK IS YOU HAVE YOUR REGULAR PARK EXPENSES, WHICH I'LL, WHICH I'LL GET TO, AND WHICH YOU, YOU ALL KNOW JUST AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT BECAUSE THESE PIERS ARE WATERFRONT PIERS AND BUILT IN THE 1950S, SIXTIES, AT THAT TIME, THE STANDARD FOR BUILDING WATERFRONT PIERS, IMAGINE IF YOU WOULD A CONCRETE DECK. 
          BUT WHAT'S HOLDING THAT CONCRETE DECK UP IN THE WATER ARE TIMBER WOOD PILES. 
          AND THE REALITY OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT OF 1972 
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IS THAT AS, AS THOSE PILES HAVE GOTTEN CLEANER AND CLEANER, AS NEW YORK'S HARBOR WATER IS CLEANER THAN IT'S BEEN IN DECADES, IT HAS BROUGHT MARINE LIFE BACK TO THE WATER, WHICH IS FANTASTIC. 
          THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OF THAT AS IT RELATES TO APPEARS, AND THE TIMBERWOOD PILES THAT HOLD THE PIERS UP IN THE WATER, IS THAT THERE'S A TYPE OF MARINE LIFE KNOWN AS A MARINE BORROWER. 
          YOU COULD THINK OF IT AS A WATER TERMITE THAT LITERALLY EATS THE TIMBERWOOD PILES. 
          AND SO MAINTAINING THE PILES, PROTECTING THEM AND PRESERVING, OBVIOUSLY THE PIERS ABOVE IS UNBELIEVABLY EXPENSIVE. 
          AND SO IN THE 1980S, THE PORT AUTHORITY AWARE OF THIS SAYS, LOOK, WE'RE NOT REALLY UTILIZING THESE PEERS AND THEY'RE REALLY, REALLY EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN, AND THAT COST IS ONLY GOING TO GROW. 
          AND SO WE EITHER NEED TO FIND A WAY TO MONETIZE THIS LAND, OR WE NEED TO RID OURSELVES OF THE RESPONSIBILITY. 
          AND SO THE PORT AUTHORITY STARTED WITH AN APPROACH, WHICH WAS, LET'S MONETIZE AND LET'S BUILD. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SLIDE, NEW HOUSING AND BUILDINGS, UPWARDS OF 10 TO 15 STORIES. 
          LEAVE ASIDE THE WEIGHT IMPACT AND THE INSANITY OF WEIGHT IMPACT OF PUTTING A 10 STORY BUILDING ON PEERS. 
          PEERS. 
          THAT BY THE WAY, FAST FORWARD, DECADES LATER, I HAVE TO BE VERY CREATIVE ABOUT HOW WE BUILD, UM, LARGE LAWNS ON BECAUSE OF WEIGHT IMPACTS. 
          THEY SOMEHOW THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA BUILD 10 STORY BUILDINGS. 
          LEAVE THAT ASIDE. 
          UM, BUT THE COMMUNITY GOES CRAZY AT THIS POINT AND SAYS, ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          YOU'RE NOT BUILDING HOUSING IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSING. 
          BY THE WAY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF BROOKLYN HEIGHTS, WHICH IS THE MOST IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE PARK, UM, IS ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN NEW YORK CITY WITH INCREDIBLE VIEWS TO THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE AND THE STATUE OF LIBERTY. 
          AND SO OBVIOUSLY THEY WERE OPPOSED TO LOTS AND LOTS OF HOUSING GOING IN FRONT OF THE HOUSING THAT THEY HAD, BUT PUBLICLY, THEY TALK ABOUT THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT EXISTS HERE AT THAT TIME. 
          BROOKLYN, AMONGST THE FIVE BOROUGHS HAS THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF PARKLAND PER CAPITA. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY SAYS THERE IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THIS ABANDONED LAND, THIS INDUSTRIAL WASTELAND, AND CREATE NEW PARK SPACE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND SO THE COMMUNITY COMES UP WITH THEIR OWN PLAN, WHICH THEY, AT THAT TIME CALLED HARBOR PARK, WHICH WAS TO TURN THE PIERS AND THE ADJACENT UPLANDS INTO PUBLIC PARKLAND. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          FORTUNATELY FOR US, OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T BE HERE WITH YOU THIS MORNING. 
          THEY WON THE DAY ON THAT. 
          AND THE DECISION TO TURN THIS INTO PARKLAND WAS OFFICIALLY MADE, UM, UH, IN THE LATE NINETIES. 
          UM, AND JUMPSTARTED, LOTS OF COMMUNITY PLANNING AND INPUT, REALLY FIGURING OUT WHAT IS GONNA GO WHERE IN THE PARK, RIGHT? AND YOU ALL KNOW THIS, UH, OF ANY PARK VALLEY PROJECT, RIGHT? WHERE DO YOU PUT THE, THE LAWNS AND WHERE DO YOU PUT THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES AND WHERE DO YOU PUT THE BASKETBALL COURTS? AND THAT TAKES A, UM, A, A LONG TIME TO FIGURE OUT AND TO TRY TO BALANCE THE COMPETING NEEDS IN PUBLIC SPACE MANAGEMENT. 
          UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE OTHER BIG, BIG PIECE OF THIS WAS, AND ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR ALL OF IT? UNDERSTANDING A COUPLE OF KEY CRITICAL FACTORS AT THE TIME. 
          THE FIRST OF WHICH IS NOT UNLIKE WHAT YOU WERE ALL GRAPPLING WITH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AS AN ENTITY HAS FINITE RESOURCES. 
          AND IN NEW YORK CITY, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY PARK, EVERY PLAYGROUND, EVERY POOL, PUBLIC PLAZAS, UM, MAKING UP APPROXIMATELY 30,000 ACRES ACROSS THE FIVE BOROUGHS TODAY, OVER 2000 INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, UH, AND HAS TODAY ABOUT HALF OF 1% OF THE OVERALL NEW YORK CITY BUDGET. 
          SO CLEARLY NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES TO TAKE ON ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY ARE ALREADY TAKING ON, LET ALONE NEW PARK LAND UNDERSTANDING. 
          THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS IS THAT MARITIME INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH WILL ALWAYS BE PART OF THE ONGOING EXPENSE AND COST OF OPERATING THE PARK. 
          AND SO ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WAS HOW IS THE CITY GOING TO PAY, NOT JUST TO BUILD THE PARK, NOT JUST TO MAINTAIN THE PARK FROM A DAY TO DAY PARK MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT HOW TO DO SO IN THIS MARITIME, UH, STRUCTURE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, SO AFTER ALL THAT COMMUNITY PLANNING, THEY DO COME UP WITH A PLAN OF HOW TO TURN THE, UH, THE PIERS AND THE SURROUNDING AREA INTO 85 ACRES. 
          THIS IS AN EARLY RENDERING, WHICH IS PRETTY ACCURATE TO WHAT WE BUILT NEXT LEVEL. 
          OKAY, I'M GONNA RUN THROUGH THESE REALLY, REALLY QUICKLY SO WE CAN GET TO THE FINANCES, BUT, UM, SOME CONSTRUCTION, SOME SORT OF BEFORE, VERY QUICK, BEFORE AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION PHOTOS. 
          SO 
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THE FIRST THING WE DID, WE BROKE GROUND IN, UH, 2008, UM, WITH DEMOLITION OF THE FORMER PIER SHEDS. 
          NEXT, THAT LEFT US WITH AN ABANDONED PIER. 
          OBVIOUSLY THIS IS PIER ONE, TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHICH WAS THE FIRST PIER THAT WE OPENED TO THE PUBLIC AS PUBLIC PARK PARKLAND IN 2010. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY, UM, A FAIRLY DRAMATIC TRANSITION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS IS, UM, THE AREA BETWEEN P TWO AND THREE. 
          I WOULD SAY IT'S WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE GREENWAY, WHICH IS, UM, OUR MAIN THOROUGHFARE THROUGH THE PARK, UH, BIKES, PEDESTRIANS, ET CETERA. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THAT IS THE EXACT SAME AREA I WAS WRONG. 
          IT WAS BETWEEN PIERCE THREE AND FIVE. 
          UH, 'CAUSE IT INCLUDES OUR BARBECUE AREA, WHICH IS WHERE THOSE, UH, BLUE UMBRELLAS ARE. 
          BUT THAT'S THE EXACT SAME LOCATION OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF YOU WERE PHYSICALLY HERE TODAY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SORRY. 
          SO OVERARCHING VIEW, RIGHT? THIS IS, UH, MID 19, MID TO LATE 1980S BEFORE WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND IF YOU GO TO THE, THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE DRAMATIC TRANSFORMATION INTO TODAY. 
          ALRIGHT, THE NEXT FEW SLIDES ARE JUST SOME VIEW, SOME BEAUTY SHOTS, WHICH, UH, IF FOR WHO'S EVER DRIVING, WE CAN JUST RUN THROUGH THEM, UH, REALLY QUICKLY. 
          YOU KNOW, GIVE A, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO 10 SECONDS PER SLIDE. 
          JUST GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT THE PARK LOOKS LIKE. 
          GREAT. 
          WE CAN PAUSE HERE FOR A SECOND. 
          UM, SO A BIG PART OF OUR DESIGN IS ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE, UH, A HISTORIC SITE. 
          SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US WAS REUSING MATERIALS AND BEING VERY TRUE TO THAT HISTORIC SITE. 
          AND SO THROUGHOUT THE PARK, THERE ARE ELEMENTS THAT ARE BUILT IN THAT ARE FROM WHEN THIS WAS PART OF NEW YORK CITY'S WORKING WATERFRONTS TO CLEATS AND BOLLARDS. 
          THE WOOD THAT IS, UH, THAT MAKES UP OUR BENCHES IS ACTUALLY RECLAIMED WOOD FROM A, HIS ONE OF THE HISTORIC STORAGE FACILITIES THAT WAS DOWN HERE. 
          UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, BEING ON THE WATER, WE'RE UTILIZING SOFT EDGES AND RIP WRAP. 
          UM, NOT JUST REGULAR BULKHEADS, BUT, BUT OTHER MASSIVES. 
          UM, WE HAVE LOTS OF NATIVE PLANTINGS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE ON THE EAST RIVER AND THAT STORM SURGE AND CLIMATE CHANGE ARE VERY MUCH REAL THINGS. 
          AND THEREFORE SELECTING PLANTS THAT ARE NOT JUST NATIVE, BUT THAT ARE ALSO KNOWN TO BE RESISTANT TO SALT WATER, INTRUSIVE, UM, AND THE UTILIZATION OF OF GREEN ROOFS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          I FEEL LIKE I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE, BUT OBVIOUSLY PARKS ARE, ARE TO BE LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 
          OBVIOUSLY IN THE PARK MANAGEMENT SPACE, WE CHARACTERIZE THAT INTO SORT OF TWO MAIN BUCKETS, ACTIVE AND PASSIVE. 
          AND SO FROM AN ACTIVE PERSPECTIVE, UH, WE THINK WE, WE PROVIDE LOTS OF, UM, LOTS OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES FROM BASKETBALL AND SOCCER TO, UH, SAND BEACH VOLLEYBALL, PICKLEBALL, LOTS OF PLAYGROUNDS, LOTS OF OPEN ATHLETIC TURF SPACES SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE 85 ACRES. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS, IS THE PASSIVE SPACES. 
          LARGE OPEN LAWNS, BRING A BOOK, BRING A BLANKET, HAVE A, A, YOU KNOW, A FREE PUBLIC MOVIE PROGRAM, ET CETERA. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          PUBLIC PROGRAMMING IS A BIG PIECE OF, OF OBVIOUSLY WHAT MAKES ANY PARK SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND SO WE NOT ONLY PROVIDE, UM, AND ARE THE CURATORS OF A LOT OF PUBLIC PROGRAMMING, BUT WE ALSO HAVE LOTS OF GREAT PARTNERSHIPS. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE PHOTO ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT, UM, WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, OF FREE SCREENING OF WIMBLEDON IS IN FACT A FREE SCREENING OF WIMBLEDON. 
          IS THAT WIMBLEDON COMES HERE, UM, EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, SETTING UP, UM, LARGE PUBLIC SCREENING EVENT TO SHOWCASE THE FINALS AND THE SEMI-FINALS. 
          AND, UH, IF YOU WATCHED THE WIMBLEDON TELECAST THIS YEAR, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN AT ONE POINT THEY SAID ON NBC, HEY, WE'RE GONNA GO LIVE TO BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK NOW AT THE FANS THAT ARE WATCHING THERE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S A, AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE PROGRAMMING THAT WE PARTNER WITH. 
          ALL OF IT FREE OPEN TO EVERYBODY. 
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NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE ALSO DO LOTS OF, UH, EDUCATION, PUBLIC ART PROGRAMMING, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE ON THE WATER. 
          WE HAVE FREE PUBLIC KAYAK PROGRAMMING, SMALL NON MOTORIZED BOATS, UM, THAT OFTEN LAUNCH FROM THE SMALL LITTLE BEACH THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, IN BETWEEN PIERCE THREE AND FIVE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE BELIEVE VERY, VERY STRONGLY IN HAVING IN-PERSON YEAR ROUND CULTURAL PARTNERSHIPS. 
          SO WE PARTNER WITH, UH, ST. 
          ANN'S WAREHOUSE, WHICH IS A THEATER PRODUCTION COMPANY THAT IS PHYSICALLY HERE IN THE PARK. 
          BROOKLYN PUBLIC LIBRARY HAS A LOCATION IN THE PARK. 
          UH, JANE'S CAROUSEL IS RUN BY A NONPROFIT. 
          UH, IT'S A 1920S CAROUSEL THAT WAS, UH, UH, SPENT 20 YEARS BEING RESTORED, AND THAT WAS DONATED TO THE PARK. 
          AND, UH, CAROUSEL RIDES ARE $2. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          ALL RIGHT, AND NOW THE, AND NOW THE VARIOUS FINANCES. 
          SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WELL, NOT FIRST AND FOREMOST, EASIEST. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN MORE COMPLICATED, EASIEST IS THE CONCESSIONS. 
          SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCESSIONS THROUGHOUT THE PARK. 
          UM, MOSTLY FOOD CONCESSIONS, THOUGH. 
          WE DO HAVE A ROLLER SKATING RINK IN THE SUMMER AND ICE SKATING RINK IN THE WINTER. 
          THE WAY OUR CONCESSION DEALS WORK IT, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE EVERYTHING FROM PIZZA TO ICE CREAM TO LUKE'S LO, UH, LOBSTER ROLLS, UM, UH, COUPLE OF SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS, COUPLE OF GRAB AND GO PLACES, VARYING PRICE POINTS THROUGHOUT. 
          UM, AND THE WAY THAT WE DO OUR CONCESSIONS IS WE ISSUE PUBLIC RFPS SAYING, THIS IS WHAT THE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A CONCESSION, THIS IS THE LOCATION. 
          UM, LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO. 
          LET US KNOW HOW YOU'RE GONNA DO IT. 
          LET US KNOW WHAT THE EXPERIENCE IS. 
          WE APPROVE THE MENU FROM A PRICING PERSPECTIVE, UM, AND TELL US WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO PAY THE FEE, WHAT YOUR FEE OFFER IS TO THE PARK. 
          AND TYPICALLY THE WAY WE DO IT IS IT'S A GUARANTEED MINIMUM, UH, AGAINST A PERCENTAGE OF GROSS SALES, WHICHEVER YIELDS A HIGHER DOLLAR AMOUNT TO THE PARK. 
          A WORD OF CAUTION, CONCESSIONS ARE NOT THE SILVER BULLET. 
          THEY NEVER, NEVER YIELD THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU HOPE THAT THEY WOULD YIELD. 
          THEY BRING, THEY'RE DEFINITELY BRINGING IN MONEY, THERE'S NO QUESTION. 
          BUT FOR ME, THE TRUE VALUE OF THE CONCESSIONS IS THAT THEY ARE PARK PARTNERS AND PARK AMENITIES. 
          THEY ARE NO FULL PARK, NO PARK IS FULLY COMPLETE UNLESS IT'S PROVIDING FULL WRAPAROUND SERVICES. 
          AND PART OF THAT IS CONCESSIONS. 
          SO YES, THEY DO YIELD SOME MONEY, AND THE, UH, EIGHT OR SO CONCESSIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PARK PROBABLY YIELD CLOSE TO, OR A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY, UM, TO THE PARK FINANCE, TO OUR REVENUE MODEL. 
          UM, BUT THEY PROVIDE SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT. 
          AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE PARK AMENITY PERSPECTIVE IS ACTUALLY THE CRITICAL PIECE THAN, THAN THE MONEY, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF WHERE THE BULK OF OUR REVENUE COMES, WHICH IS DETAILED IN THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SO, 90% OF BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK IS PARKLAND, AND 10% IS PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. 
          IN THOSE ORIGINAL CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE ARE FIGURING OUT WHERE THE BASKETBALL COURTS WENT AND WHERE THE OPEN LAWNS WENT, WE WERE ALSO, AS I SAID, HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FINANCES, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK COSTS $400 MILLION TO TRANSFORM FROM THE ABANDONED PIERS AND STORAGE FACILITIES INTO THIS 85 ACRE URBAN OASIS. 
          UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT BETWEEN MEMORIAL DAY AND LABOR DAY, WE GET ABOUT 5 MILLION PEOPLE JUST IN THE, IN WHAT WE CALL THE HEIGHT OF THE SEASON. 
          PARKS OBVIOUSLY OPEN YEAR ROUND, BUT IN JUST THE HEIGHT OF THE SEASON IN THESE 85 ACRES, WE'RE GETTING 5 MILLION PEOPLE. 
          AND SO THE CITY OF NEW YORK UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO INVEST $400 MILLION AND 315 OF THAT 400 MILLION CAME FROM THE CITY'S CAPITAL ALLOCATIONS. 
          OVER A COURSE OF A NUMBER OF YEARS, THE OTHER 85 MILLION CAME FROM THE PORT AUTHORITY OF NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY. 
          WHEN THEY HANDED US THE PIERS, THEY SAID, HERE'S THE 85 MILLION, HERE ARE THE PEERS, AND HERE'S $85 MILLION TO DEVELOP IT INTO PARKLAND. 
          DON'T EVER TALK TO US ABOUT IT AGAIN. 
          BECAUSE WHAT HAD BEEN THEIR RESPONSIBILITY OF PROTECTING AND PRESERVING THE TIMBER PILES AND THE PIERS ABOVE IS NOW MY RESPONSIBILITY AND THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT THAT COSTS. 
          SO THE CITY UNDERSTOOD THAT IT COULDN'T INVEST $400 MILLION BE A PLACE WHERE 5 MILLION PEOPLE ARE COMING JUST IN THE SUMMER ALONE, AND THEN NOT MAINTAIN IT TO AN EXCELLENT STANDARD. 
          THE CITY ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, LIKE PARKS DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE DRAMATICALLY STRETCHED THIN IN TERMS OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY VERSUS THEIR RESOURCES. 
          AND SO THE DECISION WAS 
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MADE THAT BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK WAS TO BE FINANCIALLY SELF-SUSTAINING. 
          WE ARE A CITY ENTITY. 
          BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK CORPORATION IS WHAT IS KNOWN AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT CORPORATION UNDER CONTROL OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK. 
          I AM APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR. 
          UM, THOUGH INTERESTINGLY, WE ARE NOT CITY EMPLOYEES. 
          WE'RE SORT OF A QUASI GOVERNMENT AGENCY. 
          UM, AND FROM A TAX DISTINCTION, WE ARE ALSO A 5 0 1 C3. 
          UM, AGAIN, WHAT'S KNOWN AS A PUBLIC BENEFIT CORPORATION IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE. 
          UM, BUT WE DON'T GET ANY MONEY FROM THE CITY TO OPERATE, NOT A PENNY. 
          THE, THE MONEY TO CAPITAL BUILD CAME FROM THE CITY, BUT NOT OUR ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET. 
          INSTEAD, THE OPERATING BUDGET COMES FROM REVENUE THAT WE RECEIVE ON SITES, NOT AS I SAID, 90% OF THE PARK IS PARKLAND, 10% IS PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AS DETAILED ON THIS SLIDE. 
          SO, BUT MOST OF THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, RESIDENTIAL MARKET RATE, CONDOS. 
          UM, THERE IS A HOTEL, UM, IN THE PARK. 
          THERE IS ALSO A COMMERCIAL SPACE IN THE PARK THAT HAS STORES AND RESTAURANTS AND CORPORATE OFFICE SPACE. 
          UM, THERE'S A MARINA IN THE PARK. 
          UM, AND THERE IS ONE BUILDING THAT IS ALSO RENTALS THAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING 80 20, WHICH WAS PART OF A LARGER PROJECT TO BUILD. 
          UH, IT'S THE, THE ONE, UM, IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER. 
          UM, IT WAS THE PIER SIX DEVELOPMENT, TWO BUILDINGS. 
          ONE WAS MARKET RATE CONDOS, AND THE OTHER WAS, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          THESE BUILDINGS PAY BOTH THEIR PROPERTY TAX AND AN ANNUAL RENTAL PAYMENT DIRECTLY TO THE PARK. 
          SO 90% OF OUR REVENUE COMES FROM THAT 10% OF THE PARK THAT HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, AND IT'S ABOUT A 75 25 SPLIT PERCENT SPLIT BETWEEN WHAT'S KNOWN AS PILOTS, WHICH STANDS FOR PAYMENT IN LIEU OF TAXES. 
          SO THAT'S THEIR PROPERTY TAX AND AN ANNUAL RENTAL PAYMENT. 
          THESE, THESE PROPERTIES ARE NOW ON WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT ON NOW, WHAT IS PARKLAND. 
          SO THEREFORE THERE'S, THEY ENTER INTO 99 YEAR LONG-TERM LEASES AND MAKE AN ANNUAL RENTAL PAYMENT TO THE PARK. 
          UM, AND THE WAY THE PILOT WORKS IS THE NEW YORK CITY'S DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE TELLS THE US THE PARK CORPORATION, WHAT THE PROPERTY TAX BILL WOULD BE ON EACH ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS IF IT WERE JUST ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. 
          WE THEN BILL THOSE BUILDINGS THAT EXACT AMOUNT, AND THEY PAY IT DIRECTLY TO US. 
          THAT MAKES UP 90% OF OUR REVENUE. 
          THE OTHER 10% IS AN EVEN SPLIT BETWEEN OUR CONCESSION OF FEES FROM THE CONCESSIONS. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S ABOUT A MILLION. 
          AND OUR PERMIT AND EVENT REVENUE. 
          SO ANY, ANY PERMIT THAT WE ISSUE IN THE PARK STARTS WITH A $25 PERMIT FEE. 
          IF IT'S JUST A SMALL BIRTHDAY PARTY KIND OF THING, THAT'S WHERE THAT FEE STOPS. 
          IF IT'S THE WIMBLEDON EVENT, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH WE CONSIDER, WHILE IT'S FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, IT IS ALSO A SIGNIFICANT MARKETING EVENT. 
          UM, THAT WAS PROBABLY, I THINK WE GOT MAYBE $75,000 FOR THAT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          HERE'S BASICALLY HOW WE SPEND THE MONEY, UH, AND ONCE I GET THROUGH THE, THESE SLIDES, I, I WILL GIVE SPECIFIC NUMBERS ABOUT WHAT OUR ACTUAL BUDGET IS. 
          UM, UH, BUT BASICALLY HOW WE SPEND IT, 50% OF OUR, OF OUR BUDGET GOES TOWARDS PARK OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S, WE HAVE THREE, UM, OPERATION DEPARTMENTS, HORTICULTURE, CUSTODIAL, AND FACILITIES. 
          SO ABOUT 50% OF OUR BUDGET GOES TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, ABOUT 15% OF OUR BUDGET GOES TO ADMINISTRATION. 
          SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY ANYTHING FROM PUBLIC AFFAIRS TO HUMAN RESOURCES TO LEGAL, UH, TO MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS, ET CETERA. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER 35% IS A SPLIT BETWEEN OUR CAPITAL RESTORATION. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING IN THE PARK HAS A LIGHT SPAN TO IT, UM, AND THEREFORE NEEDS TO BE RESTORED. 
          THINK FROM, YOU KNOW, SYNTHETIC TURF, ATHLETIC FIELDS. 
          THEY LIVE ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 YEARS DEPENDING ON THEIR USE AND WEAR AND TEAR, AND HOW MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT THOSE THINGS. 
          WE CARE A GREAT DEAL ABOUT THOSE THINGS. 
          UM, AND SO WE HAVE, UH, MONEY ALLOCATE THAT WE ALLOCATE EVERY YEAR TOWARDS THE RESTORATION OF THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          UM, THE MARITIME RESERVE IS OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, AS THE, THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS ON THE TIMBER PILES AND THE BULKHEADS AND THE RIP REP. 
          ALL OF THAT IS NOW OUR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          WE, AS I SAID, BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK COSTS ABOUT $400 MILLION TO BUILD TO DATE. 
          WE HAVE SPENT AN ADDITIONAL $200 MILLION IN THE WATER PROTECTING AND PRESERVING THOSE TIMBERWOOD PILES. 
          TO GIVE YOU A SENSE, UM, THERE ARE 13,000 TIMBERWOOD PILES, UM, UNDERNEATH THE PARK THAT HOLD THE PARK UP IN THE EAST RIVER. 
          UM, AND TO DATE, AGAIN, WE'VE SPENT ABOUT $200 MILLION 
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PROTECTING AND PRESERVING THOSE TIMBER PILES. 
          AND EVERY YEAR WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MARITIME EXPENSES. 
          THIS YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE DOING SOME BULKHEAD REPAIR, UM, AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS. 
          IT'S WHAT I WOULD CALL A LIGHT TO MEDIUM YEAR OF MARITIME EXPENSES. 
          AND I HAVE ALLOCATED JUST UNDER $5 MILLION THIS YEAR TOWARDS THOSE EXPENSES. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER SLIDE? I THINK THAT WAS THE LAST ONE. 
          UH, OKAY, GREAT. 
          THEN MAYBE YOU CAN PULL THE SLIDES DOWN AND I CAN, UH, AND I CAN JUST TALK, UH, AND SEE YOU ALL. 
          UM, WONDERFUL. 
          UM, SO TO PUT SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL NUMBERS TO IT, UM, THE, OUR ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET. 
          SO THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISNOMER, SO I'M ACTUALLY GONNA USE LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS. 
          AND THE REASON WHY THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISNOMER IS WE JUST IMPLEMENTED A MERGE WITH A, WE PREVIOUSLY WERE NOT A PROGRAMMING ENTITY AS WELL. 
          WE PARTNERED WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION CALLED THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK CONSERVANCY, THAT WAS A STEREOTYPICAL 5 0 1 C3 NOT-FOR-PROFIT, THAT RAISED MONEY EXCLUSIVELY TO PUT ON FREE PUBLIC PROGRAMMING IN THE PARK. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS THEIR FULL ROLE. 
          THE MONEY THEY RAISED WAS NOT TO, UM, WAS NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUPPORTING THE PARKS OPERATIONS, UM, OR CAPITAL, BUT RATHER TO SIMPLY RAISE MONEY FOR THE FREE PUBLIC PROGRAMMING. 
          WE JUST MERGED WITH THEM. 
          UM, AND THE CONSERVANCY IS STILL AN ORGANIZATION THAT EXISTS, AND THEIR BOARD STILL EXISTS. 
          WE NOW RUN ALL OF THE PROGRAMMING AND ALL OF THE STAFF THAT HAD WORKED FOR THE CONSERVANCY NOW WORKS FOR US. 
          UH, AND THE MONEY THAT THEY RAISE NOW COMES TECHNICALLY INTO OUR BUDGET AS PART OF OUR SORT OF, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL RESTORATION TYPE STUFF. 
          UM, BUT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WHICH WAS BEFORE THIS MERGE, UM, OUR ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET WAS ABOUT $15 MILLION. 
          UM, AND SO THAT WAS SORT OF THE DAY-TO-DAY PARK MANAGEMENT. 
          UM, OUR REVENUE WAS ABOUT $30 MILLION, AND THE ADDITIONAL 15 MILLION GOES INTO THOSE TWO RESERVE BUCKETS OF CAPITAL RESTORATION AND MARITIME. 
          SO, AS I SAID, THIS COMING YEAR, WE'VE GOT ABOUT $5 MILLION WORTH OF MARITIME. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE PAY FOR. 
          UM, THAT'S HOW WE PAY FOR ALL THAT IS SORT OF THROUGH THAT ADDITIONAL SURPLUS OF REVENUE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE, UH, THE OTHER MONEY GOES INTO THE CAPITAL RESTORATION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS HOW WE FUND NOT JUST THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED IN THE PARK FROM A SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL, BUT IF THERE ARE THINGS IN THE PARK THAT AREN'T WORKING THAT WE WANNA DRAMATICALLY IMPROVE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF OUR MAIN, MAIN ENTRANCES, UM, WAS, UH, WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH HOW THE ENTRANCE WAS OPERATING. 
          IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T WIDE ENOUGH, IT WASN'T CONNECTED TO THE PARK IN THE WAY THAT WE WANTED IT TO BE. 
          WE NEEDED A BATHROOM FACILITY BUILT IN THAT LOCATION, AND WE UNDERTOOK A $15 MILLION PROJECT TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING THAT INCLUDED A BATHROOM, UM, A SMALL CONCESSION, AND DRAMATICALLY WIDENED THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARK. 
          THAT $15 MILLION WAS COMPLETELY FUNDED OUT OF OUR CAPITAL RESERVE FUND. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S HOW WE SORT OF SPEND THAT ADDITIONAL SURPLUS OF REVENUE. 
          LET ME PAUSE THERE BECAUSE I, I'M SURE I'VE COVERED A LOT AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. 
          YES, PRESIDENT. 
          I WANT QUICK CLARIFICATION, JUST BASIC , THIS . 
          SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, UM, MR. PRESIDENT AND THE BOARD THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, THIS IS THE MODEL THEY USE IN NEW YORK. 
          JUST SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA. 
          I DO WANNA CLARIFY THAT. 
          NO WAY. 
          NO. 
          HOW ARE PARK STAFF IS ENDORSING THAT WE PUT PERMANENT HOUSING. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC FROM THAT STANDPOINT. 
          HOWEVER, WE ARE VERY OPEN TO RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, HOTEL, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A PLACE LIKE FAIR PARK. 
          AND WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, WHEN WE'RE BUILDING NEW PARKS IN THE FUTURE AND WE'RE PARTNERING WITH FOLKS LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HOUSE AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM THAT STANDPOINT. 
          WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING, IF THEY HAVE A NEW PROJECT AND THEY'RE TRYING TO INCLUDE PARKS INTO IT, WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO MODELS LIKE THIS FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          AND I WANNA BE CLEAR, THERE WILL BE NO EXCEPTION TO HAVING THIS LIKE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. 
          , AND, AND JOHN, CAN I JUMP IN THERE FOR ONE SECOND? TO, TO JUST ADD A, ADD A ANOTHER POINT, UH, RELATED, WHICH IS, IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT IN THIS CONTEXT TO REMEMBER THAT PRIOR TO BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK BECOMING BROOKLYN BRIDGE PARK, IT WAS 
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NOT PARKLAND. 
          SO THAT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF OTHER LAND TO BE DEVELOPED AS PARKLAND WAS TO HAVE THIS INCLUSION OF PARKLAND. 
          THERE IS NO OTHER PARK IN THE CITY THAT IS, THAT HAS THE SAME MODEL THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE IT IS EXISTING PARKLAND. 
          AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE A PORTION OF EXISTING PARKLAND AND QUOTE UNQUOTE PRIVATIZE IT, THAT IS PARKLAND ALIENATION. 
          THAT HAS A, A VERY, VERY DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT PROCESS AND IS TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY ONLY UTILIZED IN THE CITY, UM, FOR SIG FOR MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, I, WHEN YOU READ MY, MY BIO, YOU TALKED, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT I WAS DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF THE CITY'S WATER UTILITY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. 
          DEP HAD TO UNDERTAKE A PROJECT, UH, MANY YEARS AGO WHERE IT BUILT A WATER FILTRATION PLANT AND IT BUILT THAT WATER FILTRATION PLANT UNDERNEATH A PARK. 
          AND IN DOING SO, HAD TO TEMPORARILY ALIENATE THE PARK TO BUILD THE WATER PLANT UNDER AND THEN PUT THE PARK BACK ON TOP OF IT. 
          THAT, AND THEN TOOK MAYBE, UH, LESS THAN HALF AN ACRE FOR, UH, THIS, A MASSIVE, MASSIVE PARK IN THE BRONX. 
          TOOK MAYBE HALF AN ACRE, UH, FOR SOME ABOVE, ABOVE GROUND FACILITY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT WATER FILTRATION PLANTS. 
          UM, THEY, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION SPENT $200 MILLION IN MITIGATION MONEY TO HELP IMPROVE PARKS ALL AROUND THE BOROUGH OF THE BRONX, IN ADDITION TO RESTORING THE, THE PARK LAND THAT IT HAD DISTURBED WHILE BUILDING THE WATER FILTRATION. 
          THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE CITY WOULD DO PARKLAND ALIENATION. 
          AGAIN, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THIS WAS NOT PARKLAND PRIOR TO ITS DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND THE WHOLE REASON IT WAS DEVELOPED THIS WAY WAS BECAUSE OF AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MONEY NEEDED TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MR. CONNOR. 
          UM, MR. LONDALE, THANK YOU. 
          I, YOU KNOW, AS I'M LISTENING TO THIS, I HEAR EXAMPLES AND HEAR, JOHN, YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RETAIL AND, AND COMMERCE COMING AND, AND I MEAN, THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND THIS WAS A MASSIVE SCALE PROJECT. 
          HAVING BEEN TO NEW YORK AND ENJOYED THIS, I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MR. LANDAU BEING HERE. 
          BUT WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THIS RIGHT HERE ALREADY IN THE CITY THAT WE DID UP IN, USED TO BE DISTRICT 12, NOW IS DISTRICT 11 WITH HILLCREST VILLAGE GREEN. 
          SO, I MEAN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS, IS EXACTLY THIS. 
          TAKING OLD DILAPIDATED SPACES AND TURNING 'EM INTO PARKLAND AND SURROUNDING BY COMMERCE. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S EXPLODED THAT AREA. 
          PROPERTY VALUES HAVE INCREASED, WALKABILITY HAS INCREASED, SAFETY HAS INCREASED. 
          UM, I MEAN, YEAH, THIS IS, WE'RE DOING THIS RIGHT NOW. 
          I WISH WE WOULD DO MORE OF IT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. UH, MR. WHAT, UH, YES, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT AND UH, THANK YOU ERIC FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING YOU AND IN BROOKLYN AND GET THE TOUR OF THIS FACILITY. 
          UM, IT IS, IT IS, IT IS. 
          WHEN YOU SEE THE WHOLE PLAN, YOU CAN'T, YOU GOTTA SEE IT IN PERSON, REALLY, REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DID AND FORM THAT WHOLE AREA WITH THIS. 
          BUT FOR US, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD. 
          HOW WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP MORE INCOME OR REVENUE, WHATEVER IT IS, TO HOW WE CAN SUSTAIN BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE GONNA FACE HERE. 
          WHEN, AND I'M PRETTY SURE WE'LL START TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DETAIL ABOUT THE CUTS THAT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA FACE, UM, AND OUR COMMUNITY WANTING PARKS TO BE ESSENTIAL PART OF THEIR LIFE. 
          SO DO WE, DO WE CONTINUE THE PATH WE'RE IN AND START LETTING THINGS DETERIORATE MORE? AND AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE MAINTENANCE IS, IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT SHOULD BE, IF YOU SAW ON HIS PRESENTATION, 50% OF HIS, OF THE PROFITS GOES RIGHT TO MAINTENANCE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE DO THAT. 
          NOWHERE NEAR THAT NUMBER. 
          AND WE KNOW, AND RENEE, MS. JOHNSON KNOWS THAT I'M BIG ABOUT MAINTENANCE. 
          THAT'S BEEN ONE OF MY PRIORITIES. 
          AND SO HAS MS. HAZARD'S PRIORITIES IS HOW DO WE MAINTAIN OUR PARKS? SO 50%, THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. 
          THAT THAT'D BE 60 MILLION WE CAN USE IN OUR PARKS OF JUST PURE MAINTENANCE FROM JUST OUR REGULAR BUDGET. 
          UM, AND, AND AS WE START THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN SUSTAIN THE NEXT FINAL THING THAT WE HAVE IS OUR REC CENTERS. 
          I MEAN, MAINTENANCE IS NUMBER ONE TO BE HOW HEARTEDLY AND OUR REC CENTERS ARE. 
          NUMBER TWO, WHATEVER WE DECIDE HERE IN MOVING FORWARD AND HOW WE SUSTAIN 'EM, HOW WE'RE GONNA KEEP THOSE TWO THRIVING ENTITIES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          'CAUSE OUR, OUR REC CENTERS ARE NOT JUST, UH, OUR, OUR FOR FOR REC, WE REC SERVICES SUPPORT WORK OUT, BUT THERE ARE COOLING CENTERS THAT ARE WARMING UP CENTERS. 
          AND, AND SOMETIMES THERE, WE EVEN HOUSE PEOPLE THERE, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF THE YEAR IT IS AND WHERE WE NEED TO OPEN UP OUR, OUR FACILITIES. 
          UH, I KNOW THAT WHEN HOUSTON HAD A BIG TORNADO OR BIG, UH, 
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FLOOD, UH, HURRICANE, WE OPENED UP SOME OF OUR REC CENTERS FOR, UH, FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTS FROM HOUSTON TO COME DOWN AND SLEEP IN FOR I THINK A COUPLE WEEKS. 
          AND IT'S BEEN A FEW, FEW YEARS NOW, BUT IT HAPPENED. 
          I REMEMBER THAT HAPPENING, BUT YOU SAW ME TO THINK ABOUT. 
          SO THOSE ARE, SHOULD BE TWO OF OUR MAIN FOCUS WITH OTHER THINGS BEING SPRINKLED IN AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE BUDGET CUTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO THAT, JUST VISITING WHAT BROOKLYN, THE BROOKLYN PARK HAS DONE THERE IS AMAZING. 
          BUT LIKE YOU SAID, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS, UH, ABANDONED. 
          SO THEY GOTTA DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO START, BASICALLY DO A BRAND NEW BLUEPRINT, BUT JUST ONLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO AND, AND START IF MAIN'S GOING BE OUR, OUR OUR MAIN PRIORITY. 
          I STILL GOT 27 SECONDS, SIR. 
          UM, OUR MAIN PRIORITY. 
          BUT THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. HAS, THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. 
          I THINK, UM, IT'S GREAT TO SEE US GOING OUT AND SEEING HOW SOME OTHER PEOPLE ARE, ARE FINDING THOSE, UH, SHORTFALLS FOR MAINTENANCE AND EVERYTHING ELSE WE NEED. 
          AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE OUR OWN SHINY EXAMPLE HERE IN DALLAS WITH CLYDE WARREN WHO, UH, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH A MODEL THAT HAS WORKED REALLY WELL, THAT HAS THE MAINTENANCE IN IT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR. 
          WE HAVE A FEW OTHER, UM, PARTNERSHIPS OUT THERE THAT HAVE, UH, WELL DEVELOPED, UM, RELATIONSHIPS WITH US AND CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THAT HELPS COVER THAT. 
          I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO CLONE RYAN AT SOME POINT. 
          'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE FUTURE IS GONNA BE MORE AND MORE OF THESE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE WE FIND SOMEBODY WHO CAN BRING SOME OF THAT MONEY TO THE TABLE AND THEN CREATE A CONTRACT THAT ALLOWS TO, UH, SAVE SOME OF THAT INCOME TO COVER THE MAINTENANCE SO THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE ON US GOING FORWARD. 
          SO REALLY PLEASED TO SEE HOW OTHER CITIES ARE DOING IT. 
          AND I THINK WE SORT OF NEED TO DOUBLE DOWN, UM, FOR OURSELVES ON REALLY BUILDING GOOD PARTNERSHIPS, FINDING PEOPLE WHO CAN COME TO US WITH THE MONEY TO HELP US ACHIEVE THOSE GOALS. 
          AND THEN BEING VERY, UM, STRATEGIC ABOUT BUILDING INTO THE CONTRACT, THE ABILITY TO COVER THE MAINTENANCE AS PART OF THAT, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH RESIDENTIAL OR THE, UH, CONCESSIONS OR WHATEVER COMMERCIAL P IN IT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS RIGHT, MR. . 
          THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          UM, I WANNA START BY THANKING, UH, WHAT THE RECORD SAID, UH, ABOUT SOME SENSITIVITIES TOWARDS, UH, ESTABLISHED PARKS, NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS. 
          UM, PARK ALIENATION WAS A TERM, I THINK MR. LANDAU, I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT TERM BEFORE. 
          I LIKE THAT PARK ALIENATION. 
          WE DON'T WANNA ALIENATE EXISTING PARKS, UH, WITH THESE KIND OF OVERUSES AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, CERTAINLY CAN'T DO THAT IN MY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          MY, MY BIGGEST PARK IS LIKE 16 ACRES, SO THERE'S JUST LITERALLY NOT THE SPACE FOR IT. 
          BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, DISTRICT 11, INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT, I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE THE PERFECT MODEL FOR, FOR THAT NEW SPACE. 
          AND WE, WE, WE SET SOME MONEY ASIDE IN THE BOND AND THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, SUPPORTING HOUSING WOULDN'T THIS, HERE'S MY QUESTION. 
          WOULDN'T THIS BE THE PERFECT MODEL FOR THAT? 'CAUSE I REMEMBER WHAT MR. KIDNER AND DR. NEWMAN HAD BEEN ADVOCATING FOR, AND THIS IS, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR. 
          AM I, AM I CORRECT IN THAT UNDERSTANDING? UH, I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH YOU, YEAH. 
          AND THERE'S ALREADY COMMERCIAL, UH, SPACES IN THE LAND THAT WE'VE ACQUIRED. 
          SO I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          AND WHAT WONDERFUL PRESENTATION, REALLY INSPIRING WORK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, PARKLAND ALIENATION'S NOT MY TERM. 
          IT'S, THAT'S THE, THE LAW. 
           GOT A LOT. 
          MARK. 
          THANKS . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. LANDELL. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK IN NEW YORK. 
          IT'S A SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN BE DONE AND UH, KIND OF A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. 
          I THINK AS, AS MARIA ADVOCATED EARLIER, THAT, UM, WE HAVE BEEN RELIANT ON KIND OF ONE MODEL THAT HAS BEEN SO HEAVILY RELIANT ON PHILANTHROPY, WHICH IS JUST NOT GOING TO SUSTAIN US LONG TERM. 
          THERE'S TOO MANY COMPETING INTERESTS IN THE CITY. 
          UM, I, MR. LANDO, I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR, I KNOW THIS WAS BEFORE YOUR TIME, UM, IN THE SEAT YOU SIT IN NOW, BUT THERE WAS A, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A LOT OF POLITICAL WILL  TO DO. 
          YES. 
          THIS OF PUBLIC BENEFIT CORPORATION, WHICH IS ALLOWABLE IN TEXAS. 
          SO I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR BYLAWS IN YOUR KIND OF GOVERNANCE DOCUMENTS. 
          THIS IS AN UNUSUAL MODEL 'CAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN LIKE THE OTHER PARK CONSERVANCIES WITHIN NEW YORK CITY. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SO HOW, HOW DID YOU MAKE THIS, HOW DID YOU ALL MAKE THIS HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, 28. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, AND WHILE THIS WAS HAPPENING, I WAS AT THE PROSPECT PARK ALLIANCE, WHICH IS A STEREOTYPICAL PARK CONSERVANCY, THE OTHER MODEL THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, RIGHT? IT'S A 5 0 1 C3 THAT WORKS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF NEW YORK AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO RAISE PRIVATE MONEY TO SUPPLEMENT THE WORK THAT THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE LEVERAGING PRIVATE RESOURCES TO, TO BENEFIT PUBLIC GOOD IN COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION WITH GOVERNMENT. 
          UM, THIS IS, UH, THE WAY THAT THIS HAPPENED, 
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UM, UH, AND THERE THE STORY IS OBVIOUSLY MUCH, MUCH LONGER THAN WE HAVE TIME TO, TO COVER NOW, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT LOTS AND LOTS OF POLITICAL WILL THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY STARTED WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          AGAIN, REMEMBERING THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY AS THE OWNERS AND THE OPERATORS OF THE SPACE, THEY WANTED TO TURN THIS JUST INTO HOUSING. 
          AND IT WAS THE COMMUNITY THAT OBJECTED AND USED, UM, USED THE POWER THAT THEY HAD. 
          UNDERSTAND IN THAT THOUGH, IS THAT THAT COMMUNITY YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE WEALTHIEST NEW YORKERS THAT LIVE IN THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, WITH THAT WEALTH DOES IN NEW YORK CITY COME, COME SOME POWER AS IT RELATES TO THE ABILITY TO GET PEOPLE ELECTED. 
          UM, AND, UH, AND SO THE COMMUNITY USED THE POWER THAT THEY HAD TO REALLY SWAY THE ELECTEDS AND GET THE ELECTEDS ON BOARD WITH THIS AS THE, THAT UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO TURN INTO PARKLAND, WHICH EVENTUALLY WAS A, UM, A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE GOVERNOR AND THE MAYOR AT THE, UH, THE, THE TIME THAT WAS GIULIANI AND PATAKI, UH, MAYOR AND GOVERNOR RESPECTIVELY. 
          BUT IT WAS REALLY DURING THE MAYORAL ADMINISTRATION OF MIKE BLOOMBERG THAT REALLY, REALLY PUSHED THIS THROUGH AND, AND ACTUALLY PUT THE MONEY IN TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. 
          THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT I THINK WAS PRIOR TO THAT, UH, BUT IT WAS REALLY THE DRIVING FORCE OF THE BLOOMBERG ADMINISTRATION WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. 
          INTERESTING. 
          WAS THERE SEED FUNDING FROM PUBLIC SCHOOLS? UM, SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS ORIGINAL GOVERNMENT MONEY INCLUDING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR, YOU KNOW, STUDIES AND YOU KNOW, LIKE EARLY DEVELOPMENT STUFF. 
          UM, BUT THEN ONCE THE DECISION TO ACTUALLY BUILD THE PARK, UM, THE PORT AUTHORITY GAVE US THE $85 MILLION. 
          UM, AND THEN OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL FISCAL YEARS AND TWO MAYORAL ADMINISTRATIONS, BOTH BLOOMBERG AND BILL DE BLASSIO, UM, THERE WAS $315 MILLION IN CITY CAPITAL. 
          WELL THAT IS AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION, . 
          SO THAT'S GREAT TO KNOW BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS YOUR SPUR THAT SPAWNED ALL THAT RENOVATION. 
          SO I MEAN, IT FULLY PAID THAT 400 MILLION IS WHAT PAID FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK, THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT NOW LIVES IN THE PARK IN THAT 10%, UM, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          THAT IS WHAT PAYS FOR THE ONGOING PARK OPERATION, MAINTENANCE, CAPITAL RESTORATION, AND AGAIN, THE MARITIME, BUT THE CITY DOESN'T RECOUP ANY OF THOSE TAX DOLLARS. 
          IT ALL GOES INTO, IT ALL COMES TO US IN OUR OFF. 
          AND YOU KNOW, WE TRY NOT TO TALK ABOUT THIS TOO LOUDLY, BUT IN OUR CREATION DOC, YOU KNOW, IN THE BYLAW AND THE, UH, THE STATUTE THAT CREATED US, AND WE WERE CREATED THROUGH, THROUGH STATE STATUTE AND A STATE PROCESS KNOWN AS A GENERAL PROJECT PLAN. 
          IN THOSE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS, IT DOES TALK ABOUT A PERIOD OF TIME, UM, WHERE I DON'T BELIEVE WE ARE THERE YET. 
          UM, WHERE AFTER A CERTAIN YEAR, IF THERE IS EXCESS REVENUE THAT EXCEEDS THE COSTS OF OPERATING THE PARK AND EXCEEDS THE NEEDS FOR A SUFFICIENT, WHICH BY THE WAY IS AN UNDEFINED TERM, A SUFFICIENT RESERVE FUND, THE CITY CAN QUOTE UNQUOTE SWEEP THE EXCESS REVENUE YEAR IN YEAR OUT. 
          SO THERE IS A MECHANISM THAT SAYS LIKE, AFTER WE'RE FULLY FUNDED EVERY YEAR FOR AN OPERATIONS PERSPECTIVE, AND AFTER WE'VE SET ASIDE, WHAT WE ALL DETERMINE IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF, OF, OF RESERVE, IF THERE IS FURTHER SURPLUS IN A GIVEN YEAR AFTER THAT, THE CITY COULD COME AND SAY, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT EXTRA $5 MILLION, WE'RE GONNA PUT IT INTO THE CITY'S BUDGET, INTO OUR GENERAL OPERATING BUDGET. 
          YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS A OPERATING BUDGET OF A HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS. 
          NOT SURE THAT THAT EXTRA FEW MILLION DOLLARS IS GONNA BE THE MAKE OR BREAK AND THEM DOING SOMETHING. 
          UM, AND WE ALWAYS HAVE USE FOR IT. 
          UM, BUT THERE IS THAT IN OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENTS THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN. 
          I THINK IN THE, THE LATE 2020S, UH, THAT IT COULD START HAPPENING. 
          WE, IN OUR MODEL, WE DON'T ESTIMATE THAT WE WOULD HIT A NUMBER WHERE COULD REASONABLY HAPPEN WITH A, WITH WHAT WE DEFINE AS A SUFFICIENT RESERVE INTO THE MID 2030S. 
          UM, BUT IT, IT DOES, IT DOES EXIST. 
          IT IS WORTH NOTING, HOWEVER, THAT THERE IS NOT LOST REVENUE TO THE CITY BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS THAT WE BUILT AS PART OF THAT 10%, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE DID NOT BUILD, THEY WERE BUILT BY DEVELOPERS THROUGH PUBLIC RFP PROCESS. 
          UM, BUT IT IS WORTH KNOWING THAT THOSE BUILDINGS WERE EITHER BUILDINGS THAT WERE TRANSFORMED INTO RESIDENTIAL 
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BUILDINGS, OR THEY WERE BRAND NEW BUILDINGS. 
          AND THE BUILDINGS THAT WERE TRANSFORMED WERE EITHER FULLY ABANDONED AND THEREFORE NO TAX REVENUE GOING TO THE CITY. 
          OR IN THE CASE OF ONE OF THE BUILDINGS WAS THE BUILDING WHERE THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN BROOKLYN PRODUCED THEIR ANNUAL NEWSLETTER OR, UH, MONTHLY NEWSLETTER. 
          AND AS A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION, WAS TAX, WAS PROPERTY TAX EXEMPT. 
          SO WE HAVE NOT REDIRECTED PREVIOUSLY EXISTING TAX DOLLARS, PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS TO THE PARK. 
          WE HAVE CREATED, IN EFFECT, NEW PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS. 
          AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. 
          FASCINATING. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MS. MONDELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, ERIC, YOUR PRESENTATIONS ARE ALWAYS AMAZING. 
          UM, I WAS ABLE TO, TO BE THERE, UH, A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES, UM, SINCE WE LAST MET IN NEW YORK. 
          UM, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT THIS PARK BRINGS IN THE PARTNERSHIPS WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE IS IN, IS INCREDIBLE. 
          UM, YOU GUYS, I MEAN, IT'S DOESN'T TAKE OUT THE TAXPAYER. 
          IT DOESN'T TAKE OUT THE LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS. 
          IT DOESN'T TAKE OUT THE, THE DEVELOPER. 
          IT'S A, A MERGING OF PARTNERSHIPS ALL ACROSS THE, THIS, THE SPECTRUM, THE ENTITY. 
          AND IT REALLY IS A BEAUTIFUL WORKING PLAYING RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU GUYS HAVE AT, AT THE PARK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I MEAN, IT REALLY IS. 
          I, I'VE, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE, UM, SINCE I WAS THERE WITH YOU. 
          AND, AND SO, UM, I REALLY WELCOME THIS. 
          I LOVE THE WAY IT'S SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, I LOVE HOW THE RESIDENTS IN THE HOTEL DOES NOT IMPEDE ON THE VISITOR. 
          UM, AND YOU REALLY KINDA SEE IT AS THIS BEAUTIFUL MECHANISM THAT REALLY WORKS IN TANDEM, UM, AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY. 
          AND, UM, AND I LOVE THAT, AND I HOPE AT SOME POINT WE CAN TRY TO EMULATE THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE IN DALLAS OR, AND, AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY, UM, BECAUSE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE IS REALLY SPECIAL. 
          UM, AND IT'S, IT'S AN, AN, IT'S AN HONOR TO HEAR YOU AGAIN. 
          UM, IT'S ALWAYS AN HONOR TO LEARN. 
          AND, UM, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND FOR EDUCATING EVERYBODY. 
          UM, AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, IT'S A BIG PARK AND YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE, I MEAN IT, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL, ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ALL YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. 
          LIKEWISE ONSCREEN. 
          ERIC, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU JENKIN TO BRING IT UP. 
          WE MOVE TO OUR NEXT MEETING UPDATE. 
          THANK YOU, ERIC. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          GOODBYE. 
          I DON'T KNOW, UH, , HE IS OUR ACTING GENERAL MANAGER ALONG WITH ROSA . 
          HE WAS THE ASSISTANT ACTING GENERAL MANAGER AT FAIR PARK. 
          SEE MY BEST FOLKS OUT THERE FROM THE TRANSITION. 
          UH, YOU ALL KNOW, UH, WE'VE BEEN SENDING YOU MEMOS, BUT TODAY IS MORE BE OF A HIGH LEVEL WHERE WE ARE IN FAIR PARK AND, AND SOME OF THE FUTURE PLANS AS WELL. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY, AND I WANNA SAY THIS UPFRONT, AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD FAIR PARK, WE KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING HAVE TO, ONCE WE MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS, I'M GONNA SAY PUBLIC NOW, AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF OTHER CURRENT CAMPUS MEMBERS, UH, WE ARE GONNA BE REDOING THEIR LEASES. 
          UH, SOME PAY NOTHING OUT THERE. 
          AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE THEIR PART A SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL MODEL, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S PAYING LEASE PAYMENTS. 
          THERE ARE FAIR SHARE OUT THERE AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE FAIR PARK ONE OF THE BEST VENUES IN THE COUNTRY. 
          WE KNOW WE HAVE THAT POTENTIAL, BUT OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO COME CORRECT. 
          GOOD MORNING INSTRUCTION, CONSENT. 
          MY NAME IS BRETT , SUPERINTENDENT GENERAL MANAGER FOR PARK. 
          WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE A UPDATE ON THE TRANSITION SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THANKS. 
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 ALL, SO WE DISCUSS HOW WE GOT HERE, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, AND WHERE WE'RE GOING MORE SPECIFICALLY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          FOURTH SPECIFICALLY WE'LL ADDRESS THE BOARD AND THE CURRENT CONTRACT SITUATION, THE CONDITION OF THE PARK AND OUR OPERATIONAL PLANNING. 
          ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 2024, THE CITY PROVIDED HER PARK FIRST A NOTICE OF DEFAULTS. 
          THE DEFAULTS WERE NOT HERE. 
          AND ON JUNE 18TH, 2025 AND NOTICE A TERMINATION WAS ISSUED AT FAIR PARK FIRST, WHICH ALSO TERMINATES THE SUB MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, G 360. 
          THAT TERMINATION IS EFFECTIVE ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2021. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AS A RESULT, THE OPERATIONAL IMPACT, ALL OPERATIONS OF FAIR PARK ARE RETURNING THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, WHICH ALSO RESULTS IN THE NEED FOR A NEW PKR VISION AND NATURALLY COMES WITH THAT. 
          STAFFING NEEDS AND BUDGET NEEDS. 
          WE'VE CREATED A TRANSITION TEAM WHILE WE, UH, STAFF UP AND WE'LL NOTE THE TRANSITION TEAM. 
          THERE'S SEVEN OF US. 
          WE'RE ALL FULFILLING OUR, UH, CURRENT DUTIES WHILE, UH, SERVING A . 
          SO THERE ARE DOUBLE DUTIES BEING PERFORMED. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          CURRENT CONDITIONS. 
          UH, THE BOTTOM PICTURE, THAT IS WHAT THE ESPLANADE VALVE WEBSITE TODAY. 
          WE HAVE FUNDED REPAIRS WHERE WE GETTING WORK ON THAT WITH HOPES TO GET IT DONE AND RUNNING BY THE SAFE AREA. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WIND FOUNTAINS IS MORE OF THE SAME STORY. 
          WE'VE CONDUCTED THE ASSESSMENT. 
          OUR HOPE IS TO HAVE THE REPAIRS DONE AND HAVE THOSE FOUNTAINS UP AND RUNNING THE SAFE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THERE'S A COUPLE HUB FOUNTAINS AT FAIR PARK. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, WHEN THEY OPERATE, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. 
          THEY DON'T OPERATE, THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SOME MORE PICTURES OF DRINKING FOUNTAINS AND OTHER EMPTY NON-FUNCTIONING FOUNTAINS THAT WILL BE WORKED. 
          SLIDE SOME PICTURES OF THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE. 
          TELL THERE'S A LOT TO TAKE ON THERE. 
          WE HAVE SOME DRAINAGE, UH, DRAINAGE ISSUES. 
          AGAIN, OUR LANDSCAPE TEAM IS TAKING MOST THAT ON RIGHT NOW. 
          SPOT. 
          JUST MORE, UH, MORE PICTURES OF THE GENERAL CONDITION OF THE PARK RIGHT NOW. 
          I WILL NOTE THE PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND REPAIRED, BUT THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER CONCRETE PAVEMENT DAMAGE . 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          MORE OF THE GENERAL CONDITIONS AND WHAT WE'RE FACING THIS WEEK. 
          SLIDE MORE SLIDE. 
          THOSE ARE TEMPORARY. 
          HVAC UNITS. 
          UH, THAT MEANS MEANS THAT THE SYSTEM WENT TO COMPLETE FAILURE. 
          THOSE SYSTEMS COST A LOT OF MONEY TO KEEP RUNNING EACH MONTH. 
          WE ARE ACTIVELY IN THE PROCESS OF FULL REPAIR. 
          FULL REPLACEMENT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          IN GENERAL, IT'S POSTPONING REPAIRS AND PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, WHICH LEAD TO MUCH LARGER REPAIRS NEED A REPLACEMENT IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND BELOW IS A SNAPSHOT OF THAT FUTURE. 
          WHAT WE'RE ACTIVELY ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW, UH, THE FIRST TWO, THE HVAC UNITS AT OTTO AND AFRICAN AMERICAN, THOSE PROJECTS HAVE ACTUALLY BEGUN, ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. 
          THE REST OF 'EM ARE IDENTIFYING THE FUNDING AND MOVING THEM FORWARD IN CRITICAL TO SUSTAIN OPERATIONS. 
          UM, I'LL ALSO ADMIT IT ON THERE, THE FAILED FIRE INSPECTIONS, WHICH HAS RESULTED IN TWO FIRE PANELS THAT ARE INOPERABLE, WHICH SIX BUILDINGS. 
          AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU HAVE TO GO UNDER FIRE WATCH, WHICH IS NOT FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE. 
          SO WE ARE SLIDE BIG PICTURE DEFICIENCIES AT THE PARK RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE'S AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, FAILING BUILDING COMPONENTS. 
          THERE IS A NEED FOR NEW REVENUE STREAMS. THERE IS A NEED TO PUT TENANTS IN SOME VACANT BUILDINGS. 
          AND AS REFERENCED ALREADY, THERE ARE CONTRACTS WITH UNFAVORABLE TERMS AND STAFFING. 
          THE CURRENT OPERATOR IS DOWN TO WHAT I WOULD CALL A SKELETON CREW. 
          AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE STILL OPERATING OFF THE TRANSITION TEAM. 
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NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WHAT'S OUR PLAN? WE CALL IT A THREE-PRONGED APPROACH. 
          WE, WE'VE TRIED THE APPROACH OF DOING EVERYTHING OURSELVES. 
          WE'VE TRIED FULL PRIVATIZATION. 
          NEITHER APPROACH IS YIELD THE RESULTS THAT ARE DESIRABLE. 
          SO WE THINK THIS HYBRID MODEL UTILIZING STAFF OUTSOURCING, UM, SOME SERVICES TO INDUSTRY EXPERTS, BUT MAINTAIN A NON-PROFIT FROM FUNDRAISING CAN BE A SUCCESSFUL MODEL FOR US. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS IS JUST A MORE DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          AND UNDER THIS MODEL, IT KEEPS THE CITY OF DALLAS AND PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AT THE TOP OF PATROL . 
          SO THE THREE PRONG APPROACH, AS I MENTIONED, IT KEEPS PARK AND RECREATION IN CONTROL. 
          UH, WE WILL LEVERAGE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS AND NOW REFLECT  EXPERTS. 
          AGAIN, AS A REFERENCE, WE'RE GONNA RESTRUCTURE THE DEED OR, UH, SOME CONTRACTS THAT ARE UNFAVORABLE TO US CURRENTLY. 
          AND, UH, WE'LL RESTRUCTURE INTEREST FOR THE CITY TO HELP OFFSET SOME EXPENSES. 
          WE'RE GONNA FIX THE BUILDINGS TO MAKE MORE DESIRABLE, UM, TO BE RENTED. 
          AND DUE THAT WE NEED TO ESTABLISH A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AND A CAPITAL MAINTENANCE PLAN. 
          AND WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES BEFORE SLEEVE GENERATE NEW ROOM. 
          SO WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING WHILE WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE? WE DEVELOPED A TRANSITION TEAM. 
          WE'VE BEEN ON SITE SINCE 19. 
          WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF MEETINGS, A LOT OF MEETINGS WITH PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE RECOGNIZE WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO GO, A LOT OF PEOPLE TO MEET WITH. 
          WE WANT TO HEAR FROM . 
          WE IDENTIFY KEY AREAS OF OPERATIONS. 
          WE HAVE MET WITH THE CURRENT OPERATOR TO GATHER INFO IN THOSE AREAS. 
          WE'VE BEGUN CONTRACT REVIEWS. 
          THAT INCLUDES INSTITUTION SERVICE PROVIDERS AND OTHER AGREEMENTS. 
          I WILL TOUCH MORE ON THAT PIECE LATER. 
          WE'VE ALSO BEEN DEVELOPING BID SPECS FOR SERVICES. 
          WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT WE  SLIDE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE TO ESTABLISH OUR OWN APPROACH, AND THAT MEANS GETTING OUR OWN PROCEDURES, FORMS, DOCUMENTS AND POLICIES IN PLACE IN A MANNER THAT OPERATES WITH OUR SYSTEMS AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND REFINEMENT OF OUR NEEDS AND INVENTORY. 
          WE'VE BEEN IN THE BUILDINGS, WE'RE CONDUCTING ASSESSMENTS, WE'RE TRYING TO UP THE COSTS WITH ALL THE REPAIRS AND THEN PRIORITIZING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY  SLIDE. 
          SO NEXT STEPS. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS AND ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES THE RESIDENT INSTITUTIONS CURRENTLY ON CAMPUS CONTRACT REVIEWS. 
          I HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY THE CURRENT OPERATOR. 
          WE WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY CONTRACTS THAT INCLUDES EVENT CONTRACTS. 
          SO WE'RE CURRENTLY FLYING BLIND IN WHAT EVENTS MIGHT BE UNDER CONTRACT COMING UP AFTER SEPTEMBER 16TH. 
          SO WHEN WE GET THOSE CONTRACTS, WE HAVE A LOT OF REVIEW TO, UH, DO AND MAKE SURE THOSE SERVICES, THOSE CONTRACTS FIT WHAT WE NEED. 
          WE NEED TO UPDATE EXPIRING CONTRACTS, FINALIZE OUR PROCEDURES, AND WE NEED TO HIRE, UH, THE, UH, POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED. 
          UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SETTING UP INTERVIEWS NOW. 
          WE HAVE TO STAFF UP AND I'LL BE BACK ON A QUARTERLY BASIS TO KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED ON OUR RECORDS. 
          MR. PRESIDENT DUB. 
          BOY, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN COUNTER ARGUMENTS. 
          THESE WERE CAPITAL REPAIRS. 
          LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. 
          DEFERRED MAINTENANCE CAN LEAD TO CAPITAL REPAIRS WHEN YOU DO NOT SERVICE YOUR HVAC OR YOUR AC SYSTEMS. OKAY? WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN CLEAN THE CORES, THEN GUESS WHAT? YOUR LIFESPAN ON THAT HVAC SYSTEM WILL BE FIVE OR SIX YEARS LESS WHEN YOU DON'T CHANGE OUT A FILTRATION SYSTEM ON EXPENSES, FOUNTAINS THAT WE RENOVATED FOR TWO OR $3 MILLION MANY YEARS AGO, GUESS WHAT? IT LEADS TO US NOW HAVING TO SPEND ABOUT OVER ALMOST $2 MILLION RENOVATING THESE FOUNTAINS OUT THERE. 
          SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR TO THE BOARD WHEN WE HEAR PEOPLE TRY TO COUNTER SAY IT'S, 'CAUSE IT WASN'T THE CAPITAL, NO, THE CAPITAL WAS INVESTED, BUT THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE DID NOT HAPPEN, WHICH HAS LED TO THESE CAPITAL REPAIRS. 
          SO DR. 
          , DIRECTOR , THAT BRINGS UP A VERY GOOD POINT. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING BEFORE YOU CLARIFIED IT. 
          WHAT ARE THE CLAUSES IN THE CONTRACT TO GO AFTER THE SUBCONTRACTOR? A, B, G? IF I RENT A BUILDING AND I DON'T MAINTAIN THE AC AND THE FILTERS, I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS AC DAMAGE. 
          SO WHAT ARE THE CLAUSES OF THE DAMAGES? 
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AND UH, DO WE HAVE ANY PLAN TO CLAIM THESE DAMAGES FROM OVG FAIR PARK FIRST? WHATEVER SUBCONTRACT I GET OVG IN THIS CASE HERE. 
          UH, I I WOULD JUST SAY 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL IN THE, STILL IN THE LEGAL SITUATION AND UH, OF COURSE WE ARE GOING TO PURSUE ALL OPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, BUT THAT'S A GREAT, HONESTLY, JUST MAKING, SEEING THIS MAKES ME ANGRY. 
          WE CALL IT  AND IT HAS BEEN SO UNFAIRLY TREATED WITH US, BUT I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN THE CHARGE AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENTS WITH THAT. 
          MR. , YOU AGAIN, UH, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          SO I ALSO WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE THIS DEPARTMENT AND I ALSO APPRECIATE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR, FOR MAKING THE DECISIONS NECESSARY TO GET US TO WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
          THE FUTURE IS MUCH BRIGHTER NOW THAN PERHAPS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO OR MONTHS AGO. 
          UH, WITH THAT SAID, MR. WILKIE, I'M GONNA, UH, SAY, UH, I THINK IT'S, YOU HAVE A TOUGH JOB AND, AND I RESPECT THE HECK OUTTA WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          UH, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. 
          THESE MIGHT BE DUMB QUESTIONS, BUT, BUT I BELIEVE THERE MIGHT BE SOME ADDITIONAL CLARITY NEEDED ON PARTICULARLY THE PAST AND PRESENT PHOTOS. 
          SO MY FIRST QUESTION, AGAIN, I THINK THESE ARE FAIRLY SIMPLE AND, AND I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARITY, UH, IN THE PAST AND PRESENT PICS THAT WERE DISPLAYED. 
          UH, IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THE PRESENT CONDITIONS IS TO, IS TO DISPLAY THE RESULTS OF THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FROM OUR PREVIOUS OPERATOR? YES, TO AN EXTENT. 
          AND TO PAINT THE PICTURE OF WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          I I, I THOUGHT SO, BUT I JUST WANTED THAT REASSURANCE. 
          MY SECOND QUESTION, THE PAST PICKS, THEY LOOKED PRETTY DARN GOOD. 
          YES. 
          WHEN WERE THOSE PICKS FROM? SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT RANGE, WHICH IS WHY I LISTED THE PAST PAST. 
          IT'S JUST, YOU REALLY DEPICT WHAT THE FACTS. 
          OKAY, UNDERSTOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE, UH, I CAN'T SAY THE RANGE IS FROM 2010 TO 2019 SPECIFICALLY ON EACH, THOUGH. 
          I CAN'T, I THINK THAT THAT'S THE ANSWER I WAS LOOKING FOR. 
          THANK YOU, MS. SPEN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR THIS UPDATE. 
          I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR HANDS FULL OVER THERE. 
          UM, I HAD A VERY QUICK QUESTION ABOUT, UH, IT SAYS PART AS PART OF YOUR NEW MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT YOU'LL USE FAIR PARK MASTER PLAN OF THE GUIDE. 
          LIKE, IS THAT ALL GONNA BE KIND OF TAKEN AS IT IS? EXACTLY. 
          OR I OR AS A GUIDE? SO MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE JUST DON'T WANNA SHELF IT. 
          MANY MASTER PLAN'S GONNA SHELVED DIDN'T HAVE A REFERENCE TO YOU. 
          AND IT WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER, SOME RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES, HOTEL OPPORTUNITIES. 
          LET'S SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE, WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO SIT ON THE SHELF. 
          WHAT, WHEN WAS THAT? UH, MASTER PLAN APPROVED? 2020. 
          NO, NO, NO. 
          NOT THE NEW 21 ON THE NEW MASTER PLAN RIGHT NOW. 
          ABOUT TWO YEARS. 
          2020. 
          21. 
          21. 
          SO IT'S, I MEAN, IT IS CURRENT ENOUGH THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT AND I KNOW THERE WAS SO MUCH PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT. 
          WE'RE FOLLOWING THE MASTERCARD. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, YES WE ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I SAW THAT IN THERE. 
          I GO. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAS NO EASY TASK. 
          FOLLOW THE MASTER. 
          THAT'S THE THING'S CALLED FOR HOTEL RETAIL. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MAKE SURE WE WERE ALL THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MR. NER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          UH, UM, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, AND YOU SAID SO THEY'RE NOT GIVING US NO CONTRACT. 
          WE'RE JUST, LIKE YOU SAID, OPERATING IN A BLIND RIGHT NOW. 
          CORRECT. 
          I WILL STATE OUR, MY STAFF'S BEEN VERY RESOURCEFUL AS WE IDENTIFY THINGS THAT ARE ON CAMPUS, WE USE TO REACH OUT DIRECTLY, GET THOSE CONTRACTS, OUR OPERATOR. 
          SO IF THEY, I'M, I'M IN THE FACILITY BUSINESS ALSO. 
          AND NORMALLY A CONTRACTOR COULD BE SIGNED A YEAR OR TWO AHEAD FOR PLANNING PURPOSES. 
          AND, AND SOMETIMES WE REQUIRE A DEPOSIT AND SOMETIMES WE REQUIRE A FULL FEE DEPENDING ON WHAT, WHAT KIND OF EVENT THAT IS. 
          SO WE WON'T KNOW THAT TILL BASICALLY OCTOBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT POTENTIALLY. 
          UH, WE DID MEET WITH OUR FINANCE DIVISION AND EVIDENCE  SIT IN A SPECIFIC ACCOUNT THAT SHOULD BE TRANSITIONED OVER TO US . 
          BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT VERY WELL COULD BE SEPTEMBER 16TH. 
          AND, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          THANK YOU FOR NOW. 
          THANK YOU, MR. STEIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHO'S NOT PROVIDING THE CONTRACTS AND WHY ARE THEY SAYING OBG 360 STATED TO ME, THEY WILL NOT PROVIDE THE CONTRACTS UNTIL MEDIATION AS A RESULT? 
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THIS WHAT I'VE BEEN INFORMED, UH, FORTUNATELY AGAIN, WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH RESIDENT INSTITUTIONS. 
          IF YOU WORK YOUR WAY AROUND THE PARK, YOU CAN IDENTIFY SOME SERVICES. 
          UH, WE KNOW THERE'S A PARKING OPERATOR AND SECURITY OPERATOR, SO WE'RE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY AND GET THEM OURSELVES. 
          BUT OBG HAS MADE A MISTAKE, PROVIDE MEDIATION RESOLVED. 
          WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THAT AGENDA? ? UH, WE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH LEGAL AND WE'RE GONNA PURSUE ALL OUR OPTIONS. 
          IT IS, UNFORTUNATELY, WE, THEY NEED TO BE WORKING WITH US ON A SMOOTH TRANSITION BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE BEEN PUT IN THIS SITUATION. 
          THERE'S NOTHING SMOOTH ABOUT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, MS. COLLINS, WELL, SORRY. 
          YES, COLIN, UM, JUST GETTING TO RUDY'S POINT EARLIER, I APPRECIATE THE TRANSPARENCY ON THE CURRENT CONDITIONS. 
          WHAT, JOHN, WOULD YOU SAY THAT LOOKING AT THOSE PHOTOS AND LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS TODAY, THAT THINGS ARE WORSE THAN AROUND 2017? YES, I WOULD SAY A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, OH. 
          THEY'RE WORSE. 
          BEFORE WE TURNED OVER 2019. 
          AND, AND WHEN YOU SEE LIKE THE LITTLE CRACKS, I'M SORRY, WE HAD A TEAM OUT THERE, WE HAD LITTLE CRACKS. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA SEAL 'EM, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA REPAIR 'EM. 
          'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THEN THE WHOLE SIDEWALK IS GOING TO FAIL. 
          SO WHEN I SAY PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, THAT IS, THAT IS THE BASIC MAINTENANCE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          SO IT DOESN'T LEAD TO CONTINUED DETERIORATION THAT LEADS TO A MAJOR CAPITAL REPAIR. 
          AND I JUST, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN AFTER THE PART OF UNDER OVG MANAGEMENT. 
          IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE, IS THAT WHAT Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING LONG TERM? OR IS THAT MORE, AT LEAST THE IMMEDIATE SHORT TERM? I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS THE SHORT TERM, BUT I FEEL LIKE I LET ANSWER THAT QUESTION FIRST. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD SAY, OF COURSE IT'D BE UP TO THE BOARD OF COUNCIL. 
          I, I, I WOULD SAY FROM, FROM, FROM WHAT I WOULD BE RECOMMENDING TO THE BOARD IS THAT WE, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THREE PRONG APPROACH BECAUSE WE HAVE TRIED THE OTHER TWO MODELS AND THIS THING, MAKING SURE THE CITY IS STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAILY OVERSIGHT OF MAKING SURE THAT IN THIS CASE, WE REALLY NEED TO BE WORKING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO PROVIDE THOSE OTHER THINGS. 
          THAT'S NOT OUR EXPERTISE. 
          WELL, MY CONCERN IS THAT, AND THIS IS WHY I SHARED OUT IN THE LAST HOUR THE MAYOR'S TASK FORCE REPORT FROM 2014, IS I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK JUST BECAUSE THIS WAS SUCH A DISASTER THAT WE SHOULD THROW OUT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU READ THROUGH THAT REPORT FROM 2014 THAT LED TO EVERY, TO WHERE WE ARE NOW AND THE CONTRACT IN 20 17 19, WHENEVER IT WAS THAT WE EXECUTED, THAT A LOT OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS STILL HOLD TRUE. 
          AND WE SHOULDN'T NECESSARILY DECLARE THAT, THAT CONCEPT FAILURE JUST BECAUSE THE EXECUTION WAS SO POOR AND, AND WE PICKED THE WRONG GROUP. 
          SO I, I WANNA SEE OUR PROBABLY IN OUR NEXT, UH, DISCUSSION ON THIS, OUR, OUR NEXT PRESENTATION, IF WE COULD TALK NOT JUST ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN, THE MOST RECENT VERSION OF THE MASTER PLAN, BUT ALSO THOSE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          PARTICULARLY, UM, THE, THE THIRD PORTION OR ITEM THREE IN THE TASK FORCE REPORT THAT TALKS ABOUT, UM, THE RECOMMENDED MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE, RECOMME. 
          AND I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, I MEAN, EVEN AT THAT TIME IT WAS ALWAYS HIGHLIGHTED THAT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE AT, IN 20 $14 IN EXCESS OF A $15 MILLION ANNUAL ALLOCATION FOR FAIR PARK'S OPERATING BUDGET FROM THE CITY. 
          SO I ALSO, IT'S GOOD, I KNOW WE'VE SEEN IT IN THE PAST, BUT IT'D BE GOOD TO SEE WHAT OUR ANNUAL ALLOCATION HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST 10, 15 YEARS AND THEN WHAT YOU ALL ESTIMATED IT WOULD NEED TO BE GOING FORWARD LONG TERM. 
          I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL INFORMATION TO HAVE. 
          UM, AND THE, AND THE OTHER THING, I THINK ANOTHER RECAP OF RECENT BOND ALLOCATIONS AND THE PROP A MONIES AND PROJECTIONS. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE THAT STANDS AND WHAT THE TIMELINE IS ON GETTING THAT MONEY AND, AND SPENDING IT. 
          THANK YOU MR. GOLDSTEIN. 
          . 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU TEAM ABOUT MY QUESTIONS. 
          WELL, I, UM, OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS FIRST LET'S 
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START WITH STRUCTURE. 
          BRETT OF, WE'RE ALREADY FACING A BUDGET SHORTFALL ACROSS EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY. 
          SO HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO HIRE AND STAFF UP FOR, WE'LL JUST SAY IMMEDIATE NEEDS AND OBVIOUSLY MAINTENANCE? UH, IT IS A GREAT QUESTION. 
          HE ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          AND THEN I'M PROBABLY GONNA HAVE RYAN AND RACHEL BARRY JOIN THEM AT THE TABLE. 
          'CAUSE THERE ARE GONNA BE MORE BUDGET TYPE QUESTION RELATED, FAIR PART, WHICH WE'VE COVERED ON BUDGET PRESENTATION. 
          AND THEN YOU MAY HAVE SOME MORE STRATEGIC LONG TERM DISCUSSION. 
          ASK THOSE TWO TO JOIN AT THE TABLE. 
          OBVIOUSLY IN SIX WEEKS WE HAVE THE FAIR. 
          SO THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF MITIGATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN QUICKLY. 
          WHO WANTS TO TAKE, YOU WANNA REPEAT YOUR QUESTION AGAIN? SURE. 
          UH, YES. 
          SO IMMEDIATE BUDGET NEEDS WHERE THAT, THOSE DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM FOR HIRING AND MAINTENANCE. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE SO IMMEDIATE. 
          BUDGET NEEDS. 
          UM, WE ARE AWARE THAT WE DO NEED A TRANSITION BUDGET AT THIS MOMENT JUST TO GET US RIGHT PAST UP TO OCTOBER 1ST BEFORE WE START A NEW BUDGET. 
          SO TO THAT END, WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UM, THE FINANCIAL OFFICERS FOR THE CITY. 
          RIGHT NOW WE ARE, UM, GIVEN $3.3 MILLION TO HELP US TRANSITION INTO, UM, THE NEW BUDGET YEAR FROM, UM, WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR BUDGET. 
          SO MOVING FORWARD WE WILL BE EXPENDING THOSE FUNDS AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED FOR CAPITAL EXPENDITURES. 
          SURE. 
          AND THE 3.3 MILLION, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO DO ALL OF THE HVAC SYSTEMS. UM, ALL OF THOSE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT WE'RE NOW, UM, SEEN. 
          SO WE ARE ALREADY, UM, LOOKING AT SPENDING PROP A FUNDS. 
          SO SOME OF THOSE ARE ALREADY SET ASIDE TO WORK FOR PERHAPS AFRICAN AMERICAN NEEDS. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. 
          PERHAPS SOME OTHER, UM, HVAC NEEDS THAT WE HAVE. 
          THE MAJORITY OF THE AUTOMOBILE BUILDING WILL BE FUNDED FROM THE RESERVE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE LEFT FROM PROXY IN 2017. 
          SO WE HAVE ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE WERE STILL LOOKING AT. 
          SO WE SHUT, WE SHUT DOWN ANY PROJECT THAT MIGHT BE GOING EXCEPT THE ONE THAT'S VERY CURRENT. 
          AND ALL OF THOSE FUNDS ARE BEING USED TO HELP US WITH THOSE H HVAC COSTS. 
          SO THOSE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE 3.3 MILLION. 
          THE  HIRING 24 TRANSITION STAFF MEMBERS RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, THE ADDITIONAL STAFF WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH IS MOSTLY, UM, FACILITIES AND GROUND MAIN STAFF. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A TRANSITION TEAM AS, UM, MR. WILKE MENTIONED. 
          WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT CONTRACTS. 
          WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT PROCUREMENTS. 
          WE DO HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH AND HOW MUCH IS GOING TO COST. 
          HONESTLY, DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS RIGHT NOW? NO. 
          WE'RE MAKING OUR BEST GUESS. 
          UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO, AS WE DO THOSE ITEMS, WE'LL LOOK TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GONNA NEED IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO THAT'S NOT, I MEAN, IN A LOT OF THIS FUNDING, WE ARE LOOKING TOWARDS MR. WILKIE AND HIS GROUP TO COME UP WITH A GREAT REVENUE PLAN SO THAT WE CAN FUND, AND THE PLAN IS MOVING, MOVE FORWARD. 
          THOSE REVENUES WILL BE USED TO SELF-FUND THAT PROGRAM AFTER PARK. 
          BRETT, YOU NEED TO START PLANTING SOME MONEY TREES . 
          WELL, IT'S FOUND FIXED THAT THAT MESSAGE HAS BEEN, UH, RECEIVED ON LOAN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, I MEAN, RACHEL, IF WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET NEXT, BUT THE, THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND JUST FIXING FAIR PARK, WHICH WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND AT SOME POINT ANYWAY, EVEN WITH THE FAIR PARK FOR CONTRACT, THE PLAN WAS OF REDUCTION ANNUALLY IN OUR, HOW MUCH WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO BE SPENDING. 
          BUT, UH, BUT NOW THAT'S GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE. 
          IT WILL IMPACT THE REST OF THE PARK SYSTEM BUDGET. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WHAT IS THE TIMING, BRETT, AS YOU'RE NOW THE NEW RAINMAKER? UM, WHAT'S THE TIMING ON FINDING THIS EVENT VENDOR THAT CAN PROGRAM THOSE BUILDINGS AS THEY'RE BEING FIXED? WE ARE KEEPING THE CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, UH, AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING, AS BRETT JUST MENTIONED, WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS RIGHT NOW, NOW HAVE ANOTHER ONE TOMORROW. 
          SO, UH, TOP OF MIND IS, UM, STABILIZATION OF THE CAMPUS AND IDENTIFYING THE PARTNERS, 
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UM, THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE EXPERTISE TO, TO MAKE THIS WHOLE THING WORK. 
          SO REVENUE GENERATION IS A VERY ELEMENT, VERY TOP LINE FOR US. 
          BUT THAT'S A PUBLIC RFP. 
          WELL, THERE ARE CERTAIN CONTRACTS THAT EXIST TODAY THAT WE'RE IN THIS TRANSITION WINDOW AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER ACCEPT 'EM, NOT ACCEPT THEM, OR MODIFY 'EM. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO SOME OTHER TYPES OF SOLICITATIONS GIVEN THE UNIQUE NATURE OF THE SITUATION AND KIND OF THE EMERGENCY NATURE OF THE SITUATION. 
          BUT WE'LL BE, IN OTHER WORDS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THINGS MORE QUICKLY IN A TRADITIONAL THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. 
          UM, THEN, I MEAN, I GUESS, BUT LET'S BE REALISTIC. 
          LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE PICTURES, RIGHT? THE EVEN EXISTING VENDORS WHO ARE OUT THERE PROGRAMMING THE BUILDINGS CURRENTLY KNOW THE STATE OF THE FACILITIES THAT THEY WOULD BE SELLING. 
          AND SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT'S PARTICULARLY APPEALING TO CONVENTIONS AND, UH, SPORTS TOURNAMENTS AND THE LIKE. 
          SO NOW WE ARE AT A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE, UH, PERHAPS. 
          AND SO IT'S GONNA MAKE ANY PARTICULAR VENDOR NOT WANNA JUMP ON THIS OPPORTUNITY. 
          WELL, IN ALL THOSE DISCUSSIONS, UH, IT'S VERY MUCH AN EYES WIDE OPEN SITUATION. 
          SO WHEN WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, WE'RE HAVING THEM COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT FAIR PARK WITH US. 
          AND SO EVERYONE KNOWS, UM, THE, THE STATE OF DEFENSE. 
          LASTLY, ON THE NONPROFIT SIDE, UH, WE HAD KIND OF COLLECTIVELY SAID WE WE WANTED TO KEEP, UH, THE FUNDRAISING COMPONENT THAT FAIR PARK FIRST AND THEIR BOARD HAD UNDERTAKEN AND IT SOLICITED, I MEAN, HAD SUCCESSFULLY WON MULTIMILLION DOLLAR DONATIONS, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY PARK EFFORT. 
          SO WHERE DOES THAT STAND IN MOVING THAT NONPROFIT, THAT FRIENDS GROUP, UM, FORWARD? SO, SO AS YOU SAW ON THAT CHART, THE NONPROFIT PARTNERS KEY ELEMENT TO THE FUTURE SUCCESS, UH, THIRD PART FIRST HAS DONE A, A REALLY ADMIRABLE JOB IN RAISING MONEY FOR THE COMMUNITY PARK. 
          UM, WE NEED THAT TO CONTINUE. 
          WE NEED THAT PART TO BE DEVELOPED, DELIVERED, AND DEVELOPED. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS VERY MUCH AMONGST ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          UH, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE NON-PROFITS ALSO KEY PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. 
          BUT THAT WILL COME SECONDARY, I GUESS. 
          AND FURTHER CONSULTATIONS. 
          I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING WE NEED DONE ALL THIS AT THE SAME TIME. 
          WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON FINISHING THE, HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE, BASED ON FEEDBACK WE HEAR FROM YOU ALL TODAY. 
          UH, WE WILL BE, I'M HOPING TO HAVE SOMETHING TO COME BACK TO YOU ALL IN SEPTEMBER TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH FAIR PARK FIRST TO FINISH OUT THAT PARK. 
          'CAUSE DONORS HAD CONFIDENCE IN MS. LIL AND THE REST OF THE BOARD AND WHAT THIS COMMUNITY PARK WAS PLANNING ON THE MASTER PLAN AND ALL THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. 
          SO THAT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE FULFILL THE INTENTIONS OF THAT MASTER PLAN AND THE DONORS WHO BELIEVE IN IT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LAUGHTER. 
          OKAY. 
          HAPPY NEW YOU FIRST OF ALL. 
          UH, THANK YOU, BRETT. 
          THIS IS A LONG TAKING. 
          UH, I WAS NOT A BIG FAN OF THIS FROM THE BEGINNING. 
          HAVE A PRODUCT OF, UH, STATE FIRE AND AN AREA AND THE COMMUNITY WAS ELATED, BUT THERE MORE, THERE'S MORE ENTHUSIASM NOW THAT, UH, THE CITY HAS TAKEN IT BACK WHEN WE HEARD SPEAKERS SAY THAT EARLIER. 
          UH, ALSO MY CONCERN IS WITH SCOTT AND ALSO WITH , AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS ON TAKING, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS, IS, IS IS THE BUDGETING. 
          YOU KNOW, ALL WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO. 
          UH, I'M EXCITED. 
          I'M STILL RESTING WITH THE FACT OF THE COMMUNITY PARK. 
          AND I'M SAYING BECAUSE I'M FROM SOUTH DALLAS AND I'M STILL SAYING I KNEW THIS WAS THE BIG MASTER PLAN, BUT PUTTING A PARK INSIDE OF A PARK AND MY ACTUAL FOCUS IS ACTIVATING THE FAIR PART. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL THERE, BUT WE'VE GOTTA PARTNER WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS THIS, NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY, BUT THIS TOWN IN MY PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS TOWN. 
          UH, I'M EXCITED. 
          UH, MY WIFE AND I WAS DOING A RAIN DANCE THE OTHER DAY FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU AND OUR PRAYERS AND YOU, YOU'RE TAKING IT ON. 
          TAKE IT. 
          AND I'M SO PRO 
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PARK DEPARTMENT, PRO PARK DEPARTMENT FOR THE BEST DEPARTMENT IN, IN, IN, IN THE NATION. 
          SO LET'S MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN. 
          UH, LET'S MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN. 
          AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN GOING UP IN BUNTON, WE HAVE THIS GREAT FACILITY AND WE KEEP FALLING BY THE WAYSIDE. 
          SO I'M EXCITED. 
          THIS IS THE BEST THING THAT UH, WE'VE EVER DONE IS TAKEN IT BACK. 
          BUT I'M ALSO, AS WARD SAID, AND, AND, AND, AND AS SCOTT WAS SAYING, I I, I'M, I'M A GOOD PRO PARTNERSHIP BUSINESS, PARTNERSHIP PUBLIC SHIP. 
          IT'S GOTTA BE THE RIGHT ONE. 
          IT, BUT I WANT US TO ALWAYS, WE HAVE TO BE THE FINAL SAY SO. 
          SO I, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND UH, IF YOU NEED ME COME DRIVE A GOLF CART FOR YOU. 
          , MS. , I WAS WAITING ON MY BRAIN. 
          UM, SO I WAS GOING TO PUT MY HAND DOWN BECAUSE CRICK ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I WAS, UH, AIMING TOWARDS. 
          SO, BUT IT WAS JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS THAT, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, SB LOOKED AT THE PRIVATE ENTITY PIECE, UH, LEG OF THIS, UH, FOOD MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, DUE TO WHAT WE, WHAT'S BEEN, WHAT'S LANDED IN OUR, WHAT'S LANDED IN OUR LAB RECENTLY. 
          I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT PROCESS OF HOW THAT, THAT ENTITY THAT WILL CONTROL THE PRIVATE PIECE. 
          UM, 'CAUSE TO SCOTT'S POINT, I DON'T THINK THE ORIGINAL TASK FORCE PLAN WAS WRONG, BUT I THINK THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD CONTRACT OR HIRE SOME PRIVATE ENTITY AND THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING AND WE COULD KIND OF TAKE OUR HANDS OFF OF IT AS A  REPORTING TO THE PARK FOR EVERY SO OFTEN PROBABLY WASN'T GONNA BE THE RIGHT MODEL AS I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE IDENTIFIED. 
          SO, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'VE BROKEN IT UP INTO PIECES, WHICH IS COOL, BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS IN ALL OF OUR EARS  ABOUT, UM, WHO IS THE, AND POINTING A LOT OF FINGERS. 
          UM, SO I DO THINK THE PROCESS WOULD BE BETTER SERVED IF IT WAS CLEAN, ALMOST LIKE EVERYBODY STARTS AT THE SAME LEVEL AND NO ONE IS THE UPPER HAND BECAUSE OF REASON. 
          WELL THEN I WANT THANK YOU FOR THE, FOR THE COMMENT AND I WANTED TO, TO BE CLEAR THAT, UM, WE HAVE LEARNED FROM THE PAST FIVE YEARS, HAVING ONE ENTITY, UM, IS CHALLENGING. 
          AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT UTILIZING PRIVATE EXPERTISE OR PRIVATE PARTNERS, WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT PLURAL. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK WITH ONE ENTITY WHO'S GONNA DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF. 
          WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS LEANING ON THE EXPERTISE OF COMPANIES THAT ARE REALLY STRONG SALES AND, UH, PARTNERING WITH A SECURITY COMPANY, PARTNERING WITH A JANITORIAL SO THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING TO HAVE ALL OF OUR OWN STAFF DO THAT. 
          WE REALLY WANT TO PARTNER WITH PRIVATE EXPERTS. 
          SO WE'RE STILL, UH, HAVING A MODEL WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE THINGS THAT EACH OF US DO BEST. 
          MM-HMM . 
          PARK STAFF IS PRETTY GOOD AT MAINTAINING AGREEMENTS. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE NOT VERY GOOD AT SELLING THE BUILDINGS. 
          WE GOTTA HAVE A PRIVATE PARTNER THAT'S REALLY GONNA EXCEL IN THAT AREA. 
          WE, WE DON'T REALLY DO SECURITY OF, OF PARKS THAT FREQUENTLY, SO LET'S HIRE AN EXPERT FOR THAT SORT OF THING. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT'S, THAT'S SUPER HELPS. 
          SO I WOULD, I'M GOING TO SAY IT IN DIFFERENT WAY THAN, AND TELL ME IF I'M RIGHT THAT BUCKET THAT SAYS OUTSOURCE SERVICES, THAT'S REALLY NOT A PRIVATE ENTITY THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A PART BOARD CONTRACT MANAGER. 
          SO SOMEBODY THAT'S GONNA MANAGE ALL THOSE CONTRACTS FROM ALL THE PROVIDE ENTITIES. 
          SO WE WOULD THE PARTS SYSTEM, THE PARK DEPARTMENT, MAINTAIN ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS AND IT'S GONNA BE A SERIES OF CONTRACTS, JANITORIAL, SECURITY, FOOD AND BEVERAGE, UH, SALES AND BOOKING. 
          THERE'S GONNA BE A A PRETTY HEALTHY LIST OF WHO, MANAGER, PARTNERS, DEPARTMENT SYSTEM, THE PARK DEPARTMENT. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE MANAGER WHO'S GOING TO, UH, MANAGE ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS, . 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, I THINK, YEAH, IN ADDITION UNDER HIM SHOULD BE A PART THAT MANAGES ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS LIKE, I DON'T SEE YOU BEING ABLE PEOPLE WITH THAT IN, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT'S SO WE'LL BE VERY STRATEGIC IN OUR HIRE. 
          AND TO ELABORATE ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, WE FULLY AGREE THEY HAVE TO BE THE RIGHT DEALS FOR, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SENSE. 
          SO DURING THIS TRANSITION, MY TEAM IS GETTING ALL OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN 
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PLACE SO WE CAN OPERATE IT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO RUSH IN CONTRACT. 
          THAT WAS ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. DICKY. 
          UH, I'M GONNA NEED ALL THREE ROUNDS, BUT ON MY FIRST ROUND I WANNA FOLLOW UP TO SOMETHING MS. COLLINS BRATTEN SAID, UH, ABOUT THE THIRD TIER, UH, DIRECTOR JENKINS SAID YOU WERE LOOKING FOR OUR INPUT ON THE QUESTION OF, UH, THE PRIVATE PARTNER THAT WOULD DO FUNDRAISING. 
          AND I'LL JUST SAY TO SECOND WHAT MR. COLLINS, BRATTON SAID, UH, BE VERY CAREFUL IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMING TO US WITH A SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN FAIR PARK FIRST TO DO THIS FUNDRAISING BECAUSE THEY'VE RAISED $60 MILLION, THEY'VE MADE THE CONTACTS. 
          SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GET RID OF FAIR PARK FIRST AS THE FUNDRAISING ENTITY, YOU BETTER COME WITH A DAMN GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT. 
          BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN, AS WE SAW WITH SPECTRA ON, IN AUGUST OF 2018 WHEN THEY CAME TO THIS BOARD AND PROMISED THEY WERE GONNA RAISE $3 MILLION FOR OPERATIONS AND THE PROMISES OF FUNDRAISING NEVER HAPPENED. 
          SO IT'S EASY TO PROMISE THAT YOU'RE GONNA RAISE THE MONEY, BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA GO AND CONSIDER DROPPING SOMEONE WHO'S SUCCESSFULLY RAISED MORE PRIVATE MONEY THAN THIS DEPARTMENT EVER DID IN THE HISTORY OF FAIR PARK AND GO TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO'S JUST MAKING PROMISES, YOU BETTER HAVE A DARN GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT. 
          THAT'S MY INPUT THERE. 
          PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN I'M OVER MY THREE MINUTES 'CAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          UM, IT HAS TO DO WITH DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          LOOKING AT, UH, WELL ACTUALLY THE TWO BRIEFINGS, THE BUDGET BRIEFING IS VERY INFORMATIVE ABOUT THE FAIR PARK QUESTION. 
          UH, AND SO LIKE ON PAGE 15 OF THAT NEXT BRIEFING, THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE NUMBER THERE IS WELL OVER 3 MILLION. 
          IT'S A 2.8 MILLION FOR WHAT WE'VE GOT LISTED, BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHERS. 
          SO THERE'S AN ENORMOUS NEED OF A FOR MONEY, MILLIONS OF, FOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO ISN'T IT TRUE THOUGH THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ALWAYS USED FOR MAINTENANCE ONGOING IS THE STATE FAIR EXCESS REVENUE, ROUGHLY 5 MILLION A YEAR THAT NOW UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT GONNA BE AVAILABLE, RIGHT? SO THERE'S BEEN SOME MONEY, A AVAIL, A LOT OF MONEY AVAILABLE FOR MAINTENANCE THAT'S NOW NOT GONNA BE AVAILABLE EVEN THOUGH WE'VE STILL GOT THESE MASSIVE NUMBERS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? I I DO WANNA CLARIFY. 
          I KNOW EVERYONE HAD THIS CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, AND I KNOW FOLKS KEEP SAYING, OH, ALL THE EXCESS REVENUES, THAT'S WHAT WE USE FOR PREFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          LEMME BE CLEAR, WHEN THEY, WHEN, WHEN OB WELL RA AT THE TIME WHEN THEY SUBMITTED THEIR PRO FORMA, OKAY, NO, THEY PRO FORMA INCLUDED THAT THEY WOULD TAKE CARE OF BASIC MAINTENANCE AND THAT BASIC MAINTENANCE DID NOT OCCUR. 
          SO I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE TO THINK THAT THE EXCESS REVENUES WAS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE ISSUES WE'RE HAVING TODAY. 
          IF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE WOULD'VE BEEN, I MEAN IF THE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE WOULD'VE BEEN PERFORMED, THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE WOULD'VE BEEN PERFORMED, WE WOULD NOT BE LOOKING AT $3 MILLION WORTH OF, OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE REPAIRS. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND THE POINT YOU'RE MAKING MR. DICKEY ON THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE EXCESS REVENUES, BUT THERE WAS YEARS WHEN EXCESS REVENUES MAY HAVE ONLY, WHEN THE FAIR DIDN'T GENERATE ALL THESE EXCESS REVENUES, WE ONLY MAY HAVE GOT A BILLION DOLLARS. 
          NO, WE DIDN'T USE STRICTLY EXCESS REVENUES TO TAKE CARE OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          SO I, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT, BUT TO YOUR POINT, NO, THE DEFER THE EXCESS REVENUES THAT WE'RE USING NOW IS HELPING TO PAY THE DEBT PAYMENT. 
          AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO THAT IS HELPING THE DEBT PAYMENT. 
          BUT THERE WAS A WHOLE DISCUSSION BETWEEN, AND, AND I GET IT FROM A POLICY LEVEL THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN THIS LEVEL, BUT THE WHOLE THOUGHT WAS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PLACES THAT'S GENERATING REVENUES AT FAIR PARK THAT WE USE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ISSUE THAT DEBT PAYMENT SO WE CAN DO THE RENOVATION AT THE COTTON BOWL, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRIVER REVENUES OUT THERE. 
          MUSIC HALL IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST DRIVERS OF REVENUES AT FAIR PARK. 
          THEN WE HAVE THE AQUARIUM THAT'S STARTING TO BE A REVENUE DRIVER, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HIT THE REVENUE DRIVERS THAT WAS GONNA GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUES AT FAIR PARK AND WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL MODEL THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO CONTINUE BESIDES THE BRIER BILL. 
          BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE BRIER BILL, EVERYBODY WAS EXPECTING WE SELLING WAS GOING TO GET THIS $300 MILLION PAYMENT IN A YEAR OR TWO. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM. 
          UH, BUT THE BRI BEER THE BEST YOU'RE GONNA GET OVER TWO YEARS. 
          IT, I MEAN, OVER THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO YEARS I THINK IS WHAT, MAYBE 50 SOMETHING MILLION. 
          60 
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60 MILLION. 
          AND SO, SO BETWEEN FAIR PARK, FIRST OBG STATE FAIR AND EVERYBODY, WE NEEDED TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT INTO THE COTTON BOWL BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS THE REVENUE DRIVER THAT AND MUSIC HALL THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO GENERATE MORE REVENUES SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE UP THAT WHOLE 600, MID $600 MILLION WORTH OF CAPITAL REPAIRS THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE AT FAIR PARK. 
          THE BRI IS ONLY GOING TO GET YOU TO 300. 
          US BEING ABLE TO ISSUE SOME DEBT SERVICE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS WITH  HALF OF THE $300 MILLION, WHICH WILL HELP US TAKE CARE OF THE 600 METER. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. 
          UH, I'M SORRY MR. DICKER, THAT WAS A LONG ANSWER. 
          NO, THAT'S A GREAT ANSWER. 
          I I JUST WANTED TO, TO SAY THAT THE, I GET IT. 
          IT'S JUST THAT BEFORE SPECTRA EVER CAME ALONG, WE WERE NOT MAINTAINING THE BUILDINGS. 
          THAT'S HOW THEY GOT TO THE STATE THEY WERE IN. 
          WE JUST NEVER HAD QUITE ENOUGH MONEY TO GET IT ALL DONE. 
          THAT'S TRUE, ISN'T IT? THAT'S TRUE. 
          BUT WE WERE TAKING CARE OF OUR MECHANICAL STUFF OUT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE WAS TAKING CARE OF OUR HVAC, WE WAS TAKING CARE OF MAKING BASIC SIDEWALK REPAIRS. 
          NO, WE WAS TAKING CARE OF THE BASICS. 
          WHAT Y'ALL SAW IN THOSE PHOTOS WAS NOT TAKEN CARE OF. 
          THE BASICS. 
          OKAY, SO HERE'S, AND IF I'M OUT OF TIME, I CAN GO TO THE NEXT ROUND. 
          UM, AM I GOOD FOR ANOTHER MINUTE? YEAH. 
          ANOTHER 30 SECONDS. 
          30 SECONDS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. 
          HERE'S MY PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET BRIEFING, YOU SEE THAT THE BUREAU OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES ARE BUDGET MA, BUDGET DEPARTMENT ON DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          THEIR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FOR US WAS $225,000 FOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. 
          THEY FINALLY CAME UP TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION. 
          BUT WE'RE STILL ALL IN ALL WE'RE 5 MILLION SHORT BETWEEN WHAT OUR STAFF SAYS WE NEED AND WHAT THE BUDGET OFFICE IS SAYING THEY WANT TO GIVE US. 
          IS THAT TRUE? UH, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          NOW, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE EARLY IN THIS PROCESS AND YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          BUT I WILL SAY, MR. DICKEY, I AM PUTTING A STRONG EMPHASIS ON MY TEAM, WHETHER THAT'S PERMANENT OR INTERIM, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL MODEL OUT THERE AND NOT DEPEND SO MUCH ON THE GENERAL FUND. 
          'CAUSE FAIR PART HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY GENERATE A LOT MORE REVENUE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE INVESTMENT WE HAVE MADE INTO THE COTTON BOWL. 
          WE HAVE MADE $140 MILLION INVESTMENT. 
          I'D BE DARNED IF I'M GONNA SIT IN THIS CHAIR OR ALLOW MY STAFF TO SIT IN ANY OF THEIR CHAIRS IF THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GENERATE GENERAL MILLION TO GENERATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REVENUES FOR THAT COTTON. 
          I WAS HIRING THE EXPERTS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MONETIZE THAT COTTON. 
          AND SO I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED ALL THESE ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND, BUT I AM SAYING WE ARE GOING TO GIVE EVERY SHOT AT HIRING THE RIGHT EXPERTS TO MONETIZE THAT COTTON BOWL AND GET IT TO THE LEVEL IT NEEDS TO BE WHEN IT COMES TO EVENTS AND BRING IT IN REVENUES. 
          WITH MY LAST 10 SECONDS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY IT'S AN ENORMOUS CHALLENGE AND I JUST THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON US PARK BOARD MEMBERS TO SPEAK TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO LET 'EM KNOW THAT EVERYTHING DIRECTOR JENKINS IS SAYING IS RIGHT ABOUT THE NEED FOR GENERATING MORE REVENUE. 
          BUT WE STILL, OUR BASIC ASK IS THERE $5 MILLION LESS? THEY'RE WANTING TO GIVE US 5 MILLION LESS THAN WHAT WE, THE EXPERTS YOU OR THE EXPERTS SAY WE NEED OUT THERE JUST AT A MINIMUM. 
          SO I THINK THAT GOING INTO THIS BUDGET SESSION, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THERE STILL SEEMS TO BE A DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THINKS WE NEED AND WHAT OUR EXPERTS THINK WE NEED. 
          AND ULTIMATELY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THE COUNCIL ON BOARD TO, TO SUPPORT FAIR PARK IN A WAY THEY NEVER HAVE. 
          EVEN THOUGH WE WANT TO GO AWAY FROM GENERAL FUND IN THE FUTURE, WE GOTTA GET THROUGH THE NEXT TWO YEARS. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          THANKS MR. WOOD. 
          DANIEL, SORRY, I THOUGHT I WAS . 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I THINK THAT HINDSIGHT IS 2020. 
          UM, LOOKING BACK, I THINK WE'VE BEEN, THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD INTENTIONS. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. 
          THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF NEGATIVE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THE, THE POSITIVES THAT HAPPENED AND MOVE, UM, OUR NEEDLE EVEN FARTHER FORWARD THAN WE EVER HAVE IN THE PAST FOR FAIR PARK. 
          FAIR PARK HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY UNDERUTILIZED AS FAR AS A REVENUE STREAM FOR OUR PARK. 
          I THINK 
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 CENTRAL PARK OF DALLAS, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY, UM, A GEM FOR OUR CITY. 
          UM, AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, IS GOING TO, UM, DETERMINE THAT. 
          UM, ONE THING WE CAN'T DO IS ANYBODY THAT HAS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE CONTRACTS FROM OBG AT THE MOMENT, UM, BUT SAY THERE'S AN EVENT RIGHT AFTER THE FAIR AND WE'RE GONNA BE IN CHARGE OF THAT EVENT. 
          WE CAN'T LET THAT EVENT FAIL. 
          WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THROUGH IT. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SUCK IT UP EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. 
          BECAUSE LET ME SAY THIS, MR. DICKEY CAN ATTEST TO THIS. 
          OVG FINANCIAL PEOPLE SAID THE MONEY WAS THERE WHEN IT CAME TO THE RESTRICTED DOLLARS ON ALL OF THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTS THAT THEY WERE GIVING. 
          BECAUSE I WAS AT THOSE MONTHLY REPORT OR THOSE MEETINGS AND I SAW THAT MONEY WAS REPORTED AS BEING, BUT AS SOON AS THEY WANTED TO SPEND IT ALL SAID, OH, IT'S NOT THERE. 
          SO THEY SAY THIS DEPOSITS ARE THERE, BUT I DON'T, WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WE NOT COUNTING ON IT, BUT WE STILL CAN'T LET THOSE EVENTS FAIL BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA ONLY PUT A STAIN ON FAIR PARK. 
          SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT FAIR PARK ROLLS OUT THE RED CARPET SERVICE TO BRING IN CONVENTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          I THINK THAT WE HAVE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, HAVING THE CITY IN CHARGE, I THINK IS A GREAT THING. 
          UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT SOME ROCK STARS APPOINTED TO THE TEAM, THE TRANSITION TEAM. 
          I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S GONNA TAKE EVERYBODY HANDS ON DECK. 
          IT'S GONNA TAKE EVERYBODY'S IDEAS. 
          IT'S GONNA TAKE EVERYBODY'S, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATIVE. 
          LET'S TAKE THE BEST OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE HAD. 
          LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHERE WE WENT WRONG, MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GO DOWN THOSE ROADS AGAIN. 
          UM, BUT HONESTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKING WHAT WE DID GOOD AND CAPITALIZING ON THAT GOING FORWARD IS OUR KEY. 
          I, UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE, UM, PLAN. 
          I THINK THAT'S GONNA MR I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, UH, ANY FUTURE EVENT. 
          LEMME ASSURE YOU WE'RE NOT GONNA, I KNOW THAT'S NOT YOUR INTENT, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA ALLOW THEM TO FAIL. 
          I ASSURE YOU. 
          WE WILL DEDICATE WHATEVER RESOURCES, AND I'M GONNA REASSURE THOSE, THOSE FOLKS WHO BOOK THESE EVENTS, NO, THEIR EVENT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IS GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITHOUT A HITCH. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR SHARING. 
          UM, MR. STEIN, THANK YOU. 
          UH, ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO GO BACK TO 2014 TASK FORCE REPORT IS THAT IT HIGHLIGHTED HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS TO NAVIGATE FAIR PARK BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY D DISPAR ENTITIES. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT TO, WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GOING BACK TO LAB IN ALL DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS AND INSTITUTIONS AND WHERE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO NAVIGATE AND THAT'S A BIG BARRIER. 
          UM, JOHN, YOU MENTIONED REWORKING SOME OF THE CONTRACTS. 
          WHAT, CAN YOU SHED A LITTLE MORE LIGHT ON WHAT, WHAT TENANT OR INSTITUTION CONTRACTS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? OH YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I MEAN, ANYONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE, UH, I KNOW LEASE AGREEMENT WITH US, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SOME LEASE. 
          UH, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SPEAKING TO WITHOUT ME NAMING ALL THE DIFFERENT FOLKS OUT THERE. 
          AND THERE ARE PROBABLY TWO OR THREE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT OUT THERE. 
          SO AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND AFTER WE MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, WE NEED TO RENEGOTIATE PEOPLE'S CONTRACTS THAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY IN BOTH PARTIES. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST KEEP US INFORMED, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL, ALL, YEAH. 
          A LOT OF THE LOYAL INSTITUTIONS HAVE SUFFERED NOT YES, ALL WELL, AND CAN I CLARIFY THAT TOO, BECAUSE REMEMBER WHAT I WANTED TO EXPLAIN IS, IS WE BRING THEM UP WHERE THEY NEED TO BE BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED, AND WE GET THOSE FACILITIES UP TO THE LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT'S NEEDED. 
          THEN WE, WE WOULDN'T EVEN START THOSE DISCUSSIONS UNTIL WE HAVE MADE THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, FULLY AGREE CONCERNS THAT MR. DICKEY SHARED. 
          I KNOW WE'RE IN A, A CRUNCH AND, AND EVERYBODY'S GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH CUTS, BUT, UM, THIS IS, WE'RE, WE'RE AT LIKE EMERGENCY STATUS HERE. 
          SO DEFINITELY, AND I KNOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT MORE IN THE NEXT BRIEFING MORE APPROPRIATELY, BUT, UM, HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THOSE BUDGET NUMBERS ARE LOOKING FOR, LOOKING LIKE FOR FAIR PARK. 
          AND LAST THING, I JUST THINK THAT AFTER ALL THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH FOR US 
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TO, TO POSITION OURSELVES THAT IT'S INEVITABLE THAT FAIR PARK FIRST CONTINUES IN ANY ROLE WOULD BE A MISTAKE. 
          I THINK THEY MAY BE THE RIGHT ORGANIZATION TO PARTNER WITH US, BUT WE NEED TO DO A FULLY OPEN AND TRANSPARENT REVIEW OF ANY ORGANIZATION THAT MAY EXIST TODAY OR, OR MAY BE CREATED TO TAKE ON THAT ROLE. 
          BUT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOTTA BE A ROBUST PROCESS RATHER THAN JUST ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN . 
          YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S FOR FULL DISCUSSION. 
          SORRY, , . 
          THAT IS FOR A FULL DISCUSSION. 
          AND LET'S SEE. 
          I THINK THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, PROS AND CONS, BUT WE SHOULD NOT ASSUME ONCE YOU HAVE GIVEN THE CONTRACTS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CONTRACTS ARE ON SEPTEMBER SIX 16 GOING TO BE PROCESS. 
          THEY MIGHT BE THE BEST ONE, BUT DEFINITELY BE THE ASSUMPTION SHOULD NOT BE, WHICH I THINK PUBLICLY THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING THOSE COMMENTS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE. 
          WHEREAS I THINK, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT ASSUMPTION SHOULD NOT BE THERE FOR THAT NEED TO BE THE RIGHT PROCESS. 
          AND CAN I HAVE ONE, I MEAN, I WANNA MAKE SURE A CLEAR CLARIFICATION AND, AND I HEAR EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS. 
          UH, YOU ALL KNOW OUR CONTRACT TERMINATES WITH FAIR PARK FIRST ON SEPTEMBER THE 16TH, 15TH, UH, WE ARE SPEAKING OF IS A LIMITED ROLE THAT'S STRICTLY RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY PARK. 
          AND WE CAN COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING AND HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DESIRE THE BOARD AND THE PRESIDENT. 
          BUT THAT'S THE SCOPE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS CONTINUE THE FUNDRAISING ON THE COMMUNITY PARK. 
          NO, AND, AND DIRECTOR LINCOLN LY I'M FINE WITH THAT. 
          MY PROBLEM IS WITH THE ASSUMPTION WHICH HAS BEEN MADE IN THE PUBLIC THAT OH, EVERYTHING HAS HAPPENED, THE CONTRACTS ARE TERMINATED, BUT WE STILL WILL BE THERE, WE STILL ARE GOING TO BE THE BODY. 
          THAT ASSUMPTION JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE WHEN THE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN TERMINATED. 
          I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSION, WHICH NEEDS TO COME TO THIS BOARD AND IT NEEDS TO THE CONSULT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT MIGHT BE WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. 
          BUT I THINK THE ASSUMPTION WHICH HAS BEEN MADE BY, UH, I WON'T NAME, UH, PEOPLE. 
          I, I THINK THAT THAT JUST IS NOT THE RIGHT. 
          MR. UH, MR. WARD? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS. 
          JUST COME BACK AND I, I KNOW I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACT, BUT THAT'S, WE GO, WE'LL GET WAY INTO THE WEEDS THERE. 
          UM, SO JUST, JUST SO PUBLIC RECORD, REMEMBER PARK, THE, THE OLD PARK BOARD THAT WAS HERE DID NOT APPROVE THIS CONTRACT. 
          IT WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN OVER BY CITY COUNCIL AND COME AND REVERTED ALL THAT. 
          I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WHAT IT'S OUR TASK TO TRY TO FIX IT NOW, OR ACTUALLY YOURS, SIR . 
          UH, UH, BUT I WOULD JUST, THE, THE, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY AND THIS PARK DEPARTMENT TO THINK ABOUT FUTURE CONTRACTS WITH OBG. 
          AND, AND WE, WE, AND YOU KNOW, THE WAY THEY'RE, THEY'RE HOLDING US HOSTAGE RIGHT NOW, HOLDING YOU HOSTAGE. 
          WE SHOULD REALLY THINK ABOUT NOT PURSUING AND, AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT RIGHT AND LEGAL, BUT NOT TRYING TO DO ANY BUSINESS WITH THEM GOING FORWARD JUST 'CAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW TO YOU AND, AND THE TEAM IN TRANSITIONING THIS APARTMENT. 
          UH, SO THAT'D BE ONE. 
          AND ALSO, UM, DIRECTOR, I, I LOVE THE WORD YOU USED IS LEASE ON OUR FACILITY. 
          UH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD IS LEASING OUR FACILITIES TO THE RIGHT OPERATOR INSTEAD OF US GOING INTO A CONTRACT THAT KIND OF INTERLOCKS US FOR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE FIVE OR SIX YEARS. 
          BUT IF WE GO TO LEASE AND, AND DO THAT KIND OF PROGRAM AND, AND MAYBE MAKE SOME MONEY SO WE CAN KEEP THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THOSE FACILITIES THE WAY I THINK WE SHOULD GO. 
          AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. 
          IT ACTUALLY MAKES BETTER SENSE FOR THE CITY TO GENERATE RENTAL MONEY VERSUS CONTRACT MONEY. 
          'CAUSE SOMETIMES WE GET WAY DEEP OR THEY'RE NOT MAKING MONEY AND THEY WANNA, YOU KNOW, NOT PAY US OR SOMETHING. 
          UM, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I, I WOULD THINK ABOUT FOR THE FUTURE IS HOW THE CONTRACTS WILL BE WRITTEN UP, THESE AGREEMENTS VERSUS A CONTRACT AGREEMENT. 
          SO, UH, AND I I, I USE THAT TERM AND I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          MAYBE THAT'S HOW WE LOOK FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, LADY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, BRETT, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU AND ALL YOUR MEMBERS TRANSMISSION TEAM YOU MENTIONED, I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT THAT MUST BE, SEEM TO BE OUR VERY, UM, HERCULES, PERHAPS SISYPHUS. 
          I DO HOPE YOU GET THAT ROCK OVER THE TOP AT SOME POINT. 
          I I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD TO BE PROACTIVE ABOUT THE  OUT THERE. 
          I I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO ACTUALLY ASK PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONTRACTS THAT THEY'RE ASSUMING FOR FUTURE EVENTS COME FORWARD. 
          SO I'LL 
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SAY THAT, UM, BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD ON PREVIOUS OCCASIONS FOR EVENTS THAT ARE IN THE PAST, I, MANY, MANY NAMES TO PROTECT THE INNOCENT HERE, BUT OF CONFLICTING CONTRACTS OR SPACES THAT WERE DOUBLE BOOKED WERE THINGS THAT COULD NOT HAPPEN. 
          UM, IT DOESN'T COME AS ANY SURPRISE TO ME THAT THE CO-FOUNDER OR CEO GUIDED FOR UNRELATED ACTIONS DIDN'T TAKE PLACE. 
          UM, BUT I I I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED THAT THEY MAY EVEN KNOW THE EXCEPT CONTRACTS NOT HAVE THE DEPOSITS  ASSUMPTIONS THAT FOLKS AREN'T MAKING THAT AS WELL AS YOU ARE INTENDED TO, ONCE RECEIVING THAT INFORMATION, ROLL THESE THINGS OUT APPROPRIATELY, THAT THERE MAY BE CONFLICTS OR LACKING FUNDS OR MISSING DEPOSITS. 
          JUST PERCENT REALLY NEED CHALLENGES TO DO THAT. 
          I HOPE THAT'S NOT, I WOULD NOT, I GUESS JUST A GOOD QUESTION FOR YOU, AND I'M NOT HOLDING YOUR FEET WITH THE FIRE HERE OR ANYTHING. 
          AGAIN, A REGULAR RECOGNIZE THE HERCULE TASK AHEAD OF YOU, BUT HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT THE, THE  WORKING ON THAT SHOWED US, UH, THAT THOSE, THOSE ISSUES ON THE GROUNDS WILL BE RESOLVED AND WAY BE DEFEND OF THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS , THIS RULE OF OURS? I'M GONNA SHOWCASE OUR CITY BY THE TIME THE, THE WELL STEP ONE. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK FOR STEP ONE, THE REPAIRS THAT ARE NEEDED THEN ALREADY IDENTIFIED FUNDING. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THE REST OF IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN OVERNIGHT FIX. 
          WE'RE ALL WELL AWARE, FIVE, 10 YEAR COUNT FIX. 
          I, I MEAN I VERY POLITICAL AS WELL. 
          UM, I JUST HOPE I I I LOVE FAIR PARK AND I JUST SEEING IT IN THAT LEVEL OF DISREPAIR, IT'S JUST REALLY FRUSTRATING KNOWING HOW WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PROGRESS. 
          YEAH, I I I JUST HOPE THAT WE'RE NOT, I KNOW NEXT WEEK TO COUNCIL THE ITEM ON THERE NEXT WEEK FOR THE CONTINGENCY TO APPROVE THE MONEY WE NEED FOR FAIR PARK RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE MAKE IMMEDIATE REPAIRS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE READY FOR FAIR, WE'RE READY FOR RAMBLING PRAIRIEVIEW GAME. 
          WE'RE READY FOR TEXAS GAME. 
          SO WE'RE MAKING THOSE IMMEDIATE REPAIRS RIGHT AS WE SIT HERE TODAY. 
          WHATEVER, WHEN I CAN PUT IN YOUR SALES TO CONTINUE TO MAKING THAT HAPPEN. 
          THIS IS ROBIN. 
          UH, I'M EXCITED. 
          WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEEAND CAROLYN'S EXPERTS. 
          UH, AND I'M GONNA GO A STEP FURTHER. 
          I'M GONNA CALL YOU DAVID. 
          THIS IS . 
          SO BAPTIST, PUT THAT, OKAY. 
          UH, THERE, THERE ARE SO MANY GROUPS THAT WANTED TO DO SOMETHING IN THE FAIR POINT, I HOPE IN THIS PROCESS THEY, THEY WON'T BE RUN AWAY. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? UH, THERE'S, NOBODY'S GONNA COME AND INVEST MONEY IN THE FAIR PART IF IT'S NOT GONNA BENEFIT THEM ALSO. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WAS HAPPENING FOR. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THIS CAN BE FAIR PROCESS 
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AND A BE BENEFICIARY PROCESS. 
          WE'VE DONE THIS BOOM TIMES IN OUR CONTRACTS. 
          IT'S LIKE RUNNING INTO A STONE WALL. 
          WE KEEP DOING CONTRACTS THAT DOES NOT BENEFIT THIS TOWN TO CITY. 
          WE NEED TO START BENEFITING AND ALSO BE FAIR WITH OUR PARTNERS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT. 
          SO THANK YOU DAVID. 
          NOT HERE,  FOR WRITTEN THE LOGICAL REFERENCE. 
          A FIRST EVER. 
          I THINK IN BOARD RECENT HISTORY, I GUESS I, I, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS EIGHT YEARS AGO, FOR THOSE US WHO SAT ON THE BOARD AND CHOSE OF THE THREE, UM, 
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PROPOSALS, WE THOUGHT THAT WE INVESTED IN THEIR, FOR INSTANCE, SPECTRUM BECAUSE THEY KNEW WE BASED ON WORLDWIDE REPUTATION, THAT THEY KNEW HOW TO OPERATE MUNICIPAL VENUES. 
          AND SO NOW THAT IT HASN'T WORKED, BUT WE HAVE TO REALIZE THE ALBATROSS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUES, THERE WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH REVENUE TO COVER THE CAPITAL NEEDS OF FAIR PARK. 
          WE HAVE TO, AS A BOARD UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH CONVENTIONS, VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENTS, UM, VISITORS TO THE STATE FAIR AND THE AQUARIUM THAT WILL EVER BE ABLE TO PAY FOR FAIR PARK'S. 
          TRUE OPERATIONAL NEEDS. 
          ISN'T THAT RIGHT, MR. WILKIN? THERE'S, THIS WILL ALWAYS BE ON OUR BALANCE SHEET REGARDLESS OF WHOEVER WE HIRE AS A THIRD PARTY TO HELP FILL THE VENUES. 
          SO I ALSO SAY THAT BECAUSE I WANNA BE FAIR TO THE LONGSTANDING TENANTS AT THE, AT THE MUSIC HALL AND THE AQUARIUM, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM, AS WE RENEGOTIATE LEASES, AND I UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO ALWAYS BE AUDITING OUR CONTRACTS, BUT WE CANNOT PRICE OUT OUR EXISTING TENANT. 
          AND THEN THAT, THAT RESIDUAL EFFECT COULD BE PRICING OUT OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          'CAUSE FAIR PARK IS NOT DESIGNED WELL FOR MASSIVE EVENTS. 
          AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU GO TO THE MUSIC HALL, IT'S THE SAME NIGHT AS A SOCCER GAME. 
          YOU'RE GONNA SPEND 45 MINUTES WAITING ON CULLUM BOULEVARD TO GET INTO THE PARK. 
          IT'S NOT DESIGNED BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED A HUNDRED YEARS AGO. 
          SO IT WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR THE INGRESS AND EGRESS AND THE TRANSPORTATION NEEDS THAT ARE BEYOND THE PARK DEPARTMENT'S PURVIEW. 
          AND SO I THINK THERE, THERE JUST HAS TO BE REALISM AT THIS BOARD AND AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL THAT WHILE WE'VE TAKEN BACK OVER THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PARK THERE, THERE IS SUCH LARGER NEED. 
          UM, AND THINGS THAT WE CAN'T SOLVE, EVEN WITH HIRING A GREAT OUTSIDE VENDOR WHO'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BRING IN NEW REVENUES TO THE PARK, THAT WILL NEVER EXCEED, WE WILL NEVER BE BROOKLYN PARK CONSERVANCY. 
          I MEAN, UNLESS WE CHANGE THE MODEL AND MAKE US MAKE FAIR PARK A PUBLIC BENEFIT CORPORATION OR SOME CHANGE OF LEGAL STRUCTURE. 
          I DO WANNA COMMENT ON THAT. 
          AND THAT IS WE ARE GONNA BE THE  MENTIONED. 
          YEAH, WE ARE GONNA BE COMING BACK. 
          AND FOR AS BOARD, I MEAN, WE KNOW, REGARDLESS IF YOU ALL WANNA CHANGE A MODEL IN THE FUTURE, REGARDLESS OF, WE WANNA GO BACK TO THE MAYORS, UH, TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION. 
          I MEAN THE, THAT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME. 
          UH, YOU'RE PROBABLY AT LEAST TWO YEARS OUT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ANOTHER, IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AN RFP NOT LONGER, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT, THIS APPROACH IS GONNA BE IN PLACE TO KEEP US MOVING UNTIL THIS BOARD DECIDES AND WHAT'S THE BEST DIRECTION FOR FAIR PARK AND THE COUNCIL. 
          SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AND, BUT I DO BELIEVE TRULY THAT FAIR PARK IS OUR BIGGEST ASSET IN THIS CITY. 
          I DO BELIEVE IT IS BEEN UNDERUTILIZED, UNDER APPRECIATED, UNDER MONETIZED, AND JUST WITH THE LOW HANGING FRUIT. 
          I JUST THINK THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR US TO DELIVER ON THE COMMUNITY PARK FOR US NOT TO DELIVER ON MAXIMIZING THE COTTON BOWL MUSIC HALL, WHICH WE'RE NAMING THE, THE, THE VENUES HAS ALREADY BEEN HELPING MOVE FAIR PARK AND THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM. 
          AND WHEN I NAMED THOSE THREE VENUES, WE ARE SO LUCKY AS A CITY TO HAVE THOSE THREE VENUES IN A ICONIC PARK LIKE FAIR PARK. 
          YES, I HAVE CHALLENGED MY TEAM. 
          WE ARE GOING TO NOT ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO SEE FAIR PARK FAIL AGAIN. 
          NOT UP UNDER MY WATCH, NOT UP UNDER THIS BOARD WATCH, NOT UP UNDER THE CITY COUNCIL OR MAYOR. 
          WATCH. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING BACKWARDS. 
          THIS STAFF, WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH OUR PARTNERS. 
          WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH MY TEAM AND WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH YOU ALL AND THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE OVER THIS NEXT TWO YEARS, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE SUCCESS. 
          THE SUCCESS THAT THAT COMMUNITY, THIS CITY HAS BEEN WAITING FOR FOR SO LONG. 
          AND I WANNA ASSURE YOU ALL OF THAT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO FAIL. 
          CAN I GET AN AMEN, ? AMEN. 
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DR. JENKINS. 
          THAT WAS A VERY PASSIONATE PROMISE AND ALL TOGETHER, I THINK IF ANY ONE LEARNING FROM , THE CONTRACT WITH SPECTRA AND ALL WAS DONE. 
          IT WAS ALL DONE IN GOOD INTENTION. 
          BUT, UH, THE CLEAR LEARNING IS THAT ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS AND THAT'S TRULY WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, WHAT HAS HAPPENED. 
          I THINK THEY DID NOT DO WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO AND THEY EVEN UNDER SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS INITIATIVE AND THIS BOARD IS WITH YOU TO KEEP ON TAKING NEXT STEPS. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN AND THANK YOU MR. DAVID, MR. . 
          AND THAT, UH, SHOULD BE, I'M JUST TAKE A, IT'S 1216. 
          UM, LET'S TAKE A BREAK FOR 15 MINUTES. 
          1230, GRAB LUNCH AND COME BACK HERE. 
          PRESENTATION AROUND FIVE AT 1230 . 
          SO WE'RE GONNA DO OUR PROPOSED. 
          KEEP IN MIND THIS IS ON, UH, SO WE DISCUSS HERE IS WE TALK ABOUT THE PLANNED  PLACED AND THEN THAT WE HAD TO HAVE SOME BUDGET GAP TO DEPARTMENT DISCUSS NEXT STEPS. 
          SO, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. 
          SO CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE OUR LEGAL, STARTED MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER, DISCUSS OUR REQUEST, AND AT THAT POINT, OH, I A LITTLE CLOSER. 
          SURE. 
          HOW BETTER AGAIN. 
          SO KEEPING IT IN MIND THAT THE CITY DID START OUT AT $80 MILLION BUDGET. 
          THIS IS WHY WE CAME. 
          ADJUSTMENTS FOR OUR OWN BUDGETS. 
          SO FOLLOWING THIS, WE WERE REQUESTED TO TURN FOR, UM, ADJUSTMENT TO OUR BUDGET AND KEEP IT IN MIND. 
          THIS IS AN ADJUSTMENT TO A PLAN, BUT IT'S NOT ANY MONEY THAT , THIS WAS JUST PLANNED. 
          SO MAKING THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, JEFF, MONTHS REALIGNMENT, WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING STRUCTURING, UM, ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL THOSE WERE CONSIDERED. 
          UM, THEY COME BACK AND SAY THAT WE NEED TO  POINT THE ONLY. 
          SO WE DID DO A . 
          SO IF WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR 25.6, UM, AND LOOKING WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE DID HAVE SOME CHANGES. 
          OUR BOTTOM LINE, AS I MENTIONED, WAS IT ONE 16 AS OUR 25 6 AS OF THIS MORNING. 
          UM, WITH THAT WE MADE BUDGET IS THAT 1 69. 
          SO THAT THE FAIR. 
          SO WHAT THAT DOES DO TO IS THOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE COMMITMENT FOR OUR REVENUE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, UM, FOR 
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OUR REVENUE THAT WE ARE EXPECTING. 
          SO IF WE GO BACK IN AND LOOK INTO OUR POST ADJUSTMENTS, SO THESE ADJUSTMENTS, I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THEM. 
          YOU'VE SEEN THE, SOME OF THESE WE ARE, WE ARE LOOKING ITEMS SUCH AS, UM, LEGACY, WE DO HAVE . 
          UM, AND THEN WE DID LOOK AT WHAT POSITION. 
          AND KEEP IN MIND EVERYTHING THAT WE DID HERE WAS THE GOAL IS NOT TO, UM, HAVE ANY, ANY FULL-TIME STAFF THEIR POSITIONS. 
          SO THAT WAS THE GOAL, LOOKING AT THESE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OF THESE OF COURSE,  LOOK AT, WE GO FORWARD WITHIN THE FUTURE. 
          AND THAT BROUGHT US TO OUR 2.9 MILLION, UM, ADJUSTMENT THAT WE HAVE TO OUR BUDGET. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE WE'D LIKE TO BRING FORWARD IS THE AQUATIC INFORMATION. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A BIG, WHAT IS THE BIGGER DISCUSSION IS, IS OUR FLEXIBLE POOL. 
          AND SO WE DO WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS INFORMATION, UM, WE 20 VERSUS THE 2025 TO DATE, UM, WE USE SINCE. 
          SO AS YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER, WHAT SHOULD HAVE THIS, WE'RE CONSIDERING FULL FORECLOSURES THAT IT WOULD BE BASED ON SOME OF THAT ATTENDANCE IF WE DO HAVE TO ANOTHER FACILITY BE  FACILITY, THE AGE OF THE FACILITY, , THIS MY DEATH. 
          AND THEN THE CURRENT AQUATIC, THE CURRENT AQUATIC THAT ARE NEXT FIVE, IS THERE X, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? ARE ALL CONSIDERATIONS THAT WILL BE USED? WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A FINAL, UM, UPDATED PLAN THAT WILL BE UPCOMING. 
          SO THE CURRENT  CLOSURE OF TWO POOL, POOL THIS UPCOMING. 
          AND JUST FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, WE'VE ATTACHED , WHICH LETS YOU KNOW WHERE THERE ARE SPRAY GROUNDS NEXT TO THE  OR AQUATIC AND IN YOUR POT. 
          SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          SO AS YOU CONSIDER . 
          UM, AND THEN THE FINAL STUFF WE HAVE IS WE DID COURSE TAKING ON FAIR PARK. 
          WE HAVE PROPOSED FAIR PARK BUDGET . 
          UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY REQUESTED, UM, EXPENSE THAT AS WE WORKED THROUGH WAS REQUESTING. 
          UM, THEY DID COME TO WITH A, UH, 19 MILLION . 
          THEY ARE STILL AT $19 MILLION TOTAL. 
          THE NUMBERS TO CHANGE BASED ON HOW MUCH REVENUE WE THINK THEIR PARK CAN GENERATE, UM, AND HOW MUCH THE CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE, OUR FULL YEAR ENHANCEMENT REQUEST, YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE 7.5, BUT UM, THE SECONDARY REQUEST WAS AT 2.2. 
          BUT AS OF AUGUST THIS YEAR AT 2.5 FOR THAT, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT A $19 MILLION BUDGET. 
          BUT OF COURSE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REVENUE LINE OFFICE, THE FACILITY SET THAT WE HAVE THERE, UM, THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER IS THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE HAVE IN OUR OPERATING FUND RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN USE TO PAY STIPEND MANAGEMENT FEES. 
          UM, WE, WE'VE BEEN USING THOSE FUNDS TO MAKE EMERGENCY REPAIR AND WHAT HAS HIT US, UM, THE MOST THIS PAST YEAR HAS BEEN PAYING THE UTILITIES THAT WERE NOT PAID AT FAIR PARK. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN USING ANY KIND OF HAVE IN ANY OF THESE AREAS. 
          WE ARE CURRENTLY PROJECTING OVER BUDGET, UM, BECAUSE OF UTILITIES. 
          AND NOW THE, THE STATUS IS BECAUSE WE TRANSITION, 
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WE'RE POSITION FUNDS FOR FAIR PARK, WE'LL COVER OUR COVER, THE STAFF, ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, , AND THEN OF COURSE START NEXT YEAR. 
          , WHICH CONSIDERS HER THE STANDARD PERSONNEL SUPPLIES, THE CONTRACTUAL AND CAPITAL, UM, THE CAPITAL MAJOR MAINTENANCE IS ACTUALLY PART OF OUR MAINTENANCE PLAN. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY WE , BUT WE TOUGH TIME RIGHT? CITY, WE ARE SEVEN TO COME UP WITH A POSITION REVENUE OR AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT CONTRACTS PARTNERS. 
          THE NEXT IS JUST BASICALLY THESE ARE JUST OUR NEXT STEPS. 
          SO IF WE CAN GET APPROVAL OF THE DIRECTOR'S RECOMMENDATIONS, WE FOLLOW THIS, WE CAN SUBMIT AN APPROVED PLAN TO THE MANAGEMENT SERVICES. 
          IF NOT, YOU KNOW, NEXT, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL OR  THAT, UM, THE, ON AUGUST 12TH, THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO SUBMIT HER RECOMMENDED  TO COUNCIL AND THEN TO THE 29TH THERE WILL BE, UH, THE TIME FOR AMENDMENTS. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE THOSE WILL BE IZED ON SEPTEMBER. 
          BUT, SO IF YOU HAVE TIME, IF YOU QUESTION TO COME , UM, THE REST OF THE INFORMATION AND COURT IS JUST INFORMATION THAT PROPOSAL, UM, AND OUR PAST HISTORY. 
          IS THERE ANY CHAIR BEFORE WE, UH, START THE QUESTION? I JUST WANTED TO JUST REMIND BOARD BEFORE WE DON'T BREAK YOU. 
          IT BE HAVE BROUGHT YOU ABOUT $1.3 MILLION WORTH OF EFFICIENCIES. 
          AND OF COURSE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS ASKED, COULD WE ADJUST OUR BUDGET SOME MORE, THE GAP IN THE, UH, THE BUDGET GAP. 
          SO THEN WE WENT TO LOOK FOR SOME ADDITIONAL EFFICIENCIES. 
          UH, TRIED TO MAKE SURE ONCE AGAIN WE TARGETED NOT, DIDN'T WANT TO IMPACT OUR CORE SERVICES AND KNOW BESIDES THE POOLS, THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          UH, WHICH, BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW THAT WOULD BE A SUBJECT THAT I WILL ALWAYS BRING BEFORE THIS BOARD BECAUSE WE HAVE WHOLE COMMUNITY, 70 YEARS OLD HARD FOUND FOREST. 
          WE DID SEE SOME IMPROVE WHEN IT COMES TO AVERAGE WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY POOLS. 
          OUT OF THE NINE, WE SAW ABOUT FOUR POOLS. 
          WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN THE AVERAGE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART GIVE THEIR LIFE ATTRACTIVE TO THE RESIDENTS. 
          UH, I'LL TELL YOU, OUR LOWEST SCORE WE GET WITH THE OMMUNITY SURVEY EVERY YEAR, IT, IT USED TO BE SECURITY, OF COURSE, SECURITY IS NOW HAVE MOVED UP QUITE A BIT. 
          OUR LOWEST SCORE IS THE COMMUNITY BOOST, 51% WITH AVERAGE SCORING PARTS. 
          SOMETHING PROBABLY LIKE 75, 70 8%. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THAT THAT DECISION WON'T BE MADE TODAY. 
          WE HAVEN'T GOT THE MASTER PLAN THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD HERE, UH, HOPING BY THE FALL, BUT IT IT, IT IS ONLY OUT HERE BECAUSE IT IS AN INEFFICIENCY THAT ANYTIME WE'RE GONNA HAVE BUDGET CUTS YOU OFF, WE YOU WANT A CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT'S MOST INEFFICIENT THING FROM A OPERATION STANDPOINT. 
          AND IT AND NUMBERS JUST DOESN'T SHOW PEOPLE WANTING FOODS ONLY. 
          OH, THEY'RE OUTDATED. 
          AND YOU KNOW, MY RECOMMENDATION IS BE SYSTEMATICALLY CONSIDERING DECOM TWO OR THREE POOLS PER YEAR WORK ON AND PLACING POOLS SPRAY GROUND OR SPLASH. 
          SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY YOU SEE IT EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT WE GOTTA GET INTO THREE. 
          I KNOW YOU SITTING REC CENTER HOURS, IT PROVIDES YOU JUST ATTENDANCE REPORT. 
          BUT 
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JUST A LITTLE HISTORY, Y'ALL BEFORE I WANNA SAY 2012, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF SET HOURS REC CENTER. 
          YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD ONE REC CENTER THAT OPERATE 40 HOURS. 
          YOU HAVE ANOTHER REC CENTER MAY HAVE OPERATED 50, 60 SOMETHING. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE GOT THE FUNDING FOR REC CENTER ENHANCEMENTS BACK IN, I WANNA SAY IT WAS 2012 OR 2014, BUT WE WENT TO SAY LET'S JUST STANDARDIZE ALL OF 'EM WITH SET HOURS WHERE THE DATA IS NOT SUPPORTING. 
          EVERY REC CENTER NEEDS TO BE OPERATING AT 60 HOURS. 
          THE DATA IS SHOWING US THAT MAYBE THESE REC CENTERS, SOME PROBABLY NEED TO OPERATE AT 50, SOME NEED TO OPERATE AT 54, BUT THE DATA'S NOT SUPPORTING IN EVERY CENTER TO BE UP HERE 60 HOURS BECAUSE, 'CAUSE THE THING IS JUST NOT THERE. 
          SO THAT ONE IS, WE'RE MAKING AN OPERATIONAL ADJUSTMENT TO GET THOSE SAVINGS. 
          AND THEN WHEN IT CAME, WHEN IT CAME TO THE, TO THE MAINTENANCE, WHERE YOU SEE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, AND Y'ALL HAVE EXPRESSED THIS BEFORE, RIGHT? TO LOOK AT WHEN WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON THE MAINTENANCE IS NOT LIKE TAKING CARE OF THE CORE SERVICES MAINTENANCE BY KEEPING IT BRAS MOW, TAKING CARE OF THE FORESTRY, TAKING CARE OF THE LITTER PICKUP INSTEAD OF DOING THE BRUSH REMOVAL AND HOSTING THE GROUNDBREAKINGS AND RIBBON CUTTINGS ON THE WEEKENDS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REDEPLOY THE STAFF ON OVERTIME FOR THOSE EVENTS. 
          AND THOSE COST US A LOT OF MONEY. 
          SO TO ME THAT'S AN EFFICIENCY WHERE WE CAN SAVE MONEY. 
          SO THE, THE RECOMMENDATION ON THESE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, I REALLY DO CONSIDER MOST OF THESE EFFICIENCIES. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          AND I MEAN, I GUESS ON THE PULL UP, I KNOW WE GOT THE ATTENDANCE LIST, I THINK WE GOT REVENUE ON ONE OF THESE WERE MAYBE IT WAS A AQUATICS MM-HMM . 
          UM, ALSO, I DON'T THINK THE LIFE OF THE POOLS ARE HERE SOMEWHERE. 
          OH YEAH. 
          MAYBE IF WE WE'RE GONNA BASE ON THOSE THREE CATEGORIES, WE CAN SEE LIKE IF A POOL'S BEEN AROUND 50 YEARS AND YOU KNOW, AND ON PAGE SIX. 
          ON PAGE SIX, OKAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE TO UPDATE IT THE YEAR WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THAT AT PAY SIX DOESN'T SAY LONG, YOU PULL IT F FIVE, IT JUST SAYS TOTAL OF 10, AN AVERAGE FOR 23 AND 25. 
          THEN THERE'S THE 10. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          ALL OF THESE I'M LOOKING AT. 
          OKAY. 
          I MISSED THAT ONE THERE. 
          YEAH, 50 TO 75 THAT HELP. 
          I SEE IT NOW. 
          WE GOT THE NEW YEAH, I SEE IT THE SAME THING. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A, OKAY, WE'LL GO TO OUR FIRST, UH, BOARD MEMBER, MS. CATHERINE. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          UH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS. 
          UM, SO WE HAD, UM, SORT OF WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE AND THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, NO, YOU NEED TO TAKE 3 MILLION MORE OUT OF THAT. 
          THEN WE HAD THIS WHOLE PARK THING ON. 
          SURE. 
          SO WE FOUND A WAY ADJUST FUNDER THREE IS THIS FAIR PARK, UH, WHAT DO YOU ALWAYS CALL IT? ENHANCEMENT. 
          ENHANCEMENT WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR MORE MONEY AND SOMEHOW THAT'S AN ENHANCEMENT. 
          BUT IS THAT, SO HAVE THEY AGREED TO THAT ENHANCEMENT OR IS THIS, ARE WE STILL ON THE PART OF THAT? THESE ARE ALL PROPOSED BUDGETS. 
          THE CITY MANAGER HAS NOT GONE TO CITY COUNCIL YET, UM, TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION. 
          UM, SO THESE ARE OUR PROPOSED AND THEN OF COURSE IT WOULD BE UP TO CITY COUNCIL THAT WOULD BE ON THERE. 
          SO , UM, IT IT, KEEPING IN MIND THAT FAIR PARK WILL BE MOVED INTO A SPECIAL  FOR THEIR REQUIRED TO MAKE THEIR REVENUE TO FEED THEIR EXPENSES. 
          SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, UM, THESE TRANSFER COMPANIES ENHANCEMENTS ARE JUST PART OF REIMBURSEMENT TO THAT FUND, I THINK YEAR. 
          SO WE ARE YES, LOOKING TO GET AT LEAST WHERE IT WOULD BE AT THIS POINT. 
          THIS IS THE PARK DEPARTMENT SETTLED NUMBER WITH THE BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES, BUT WE ARE GONNA BE ASKING FOR SOME, IS THAT RIGHT? THE HELP REQUEST IS THE 2.5, 2.5, 2.5. 
          IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE NEAR ENOUGH, BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE YET, 
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WELL THIS NUMBER BASED ON THE BUDGETARY RESTRICTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS, UM, AND THE SHORTFALL THAT THE CITY, THAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE UP WITH AT THIS TIME, OF COURSE ABLE TO VERY WELL MO MONETIZE , WE WORKING ON TO SOME BUILDING THAT OF COURSE A LITTLE BIT REVENUE. 
          SO WE ARE HOPING IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD NEED AS MUCH GENERAL FUNDING. 
          BUT UNFORTUNATELY WHEN THE CITY'S EXPERIENCE, I GUESS MY, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WE HAD THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION JUST NOW ABOUT FAIR PARK FIRST, AND NOW BRETT'S GOT THIS LONG LAUNDRY LIST OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND MAINTENANCE IS HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO THE PREVENTATIVE. 
          SO THAT WAS WAY MORE THAN TWO. 
          THAT WAS, YEAH. 
          SO JUST REMEMBER THIS YEAR WE MET, WE, WE GOT A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT FOR THIS YEAR TO GOES TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK. 
          OKAY. 
          THINK THAT'S WHAT, THREE POINT 0.3. 
          SO 3.3. 
          BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S SOME MONEY MOVING FORWARD, FORWARD NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, YEAH, OF COURSE WE NEED MORE MONEY. 
          THAT'S THEORY MENTIONED. 
          I MEAN, I MEAN THAT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL AND, YOU KNOW, CITY MANAGER DISCUSSION ON THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO GIVE US AT THIS POINT. 
          THE THE CITY MANAGER, THE, THE MONEY FOR FAIR PARK? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BUT THAT'S CONVERSATION YOU'VE ALREADY HAD IN OTHER WORDS, CORRECT. 
          I MEAN, I'M NOT ASKING, YOU CAN SEE OUR ORIGINAL ASK AND WHAT WE HAVE TO END UP WITH. 
          YES. 
          PERFECT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN THE ONLY QUESTION, THE OTHER QUESTION IS JUST, I, I FIND IT INTERESTING ON THE AQUATIC INFORMATION ON SLIDE SIX, IT LOOKS LIKE GENERALLY SPEAKING THE COMMUNITY POOLS ATTENDANCE WERE EITHER FLAT OR SORT OF INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT THEN ALL OF OUR ATTENDANCE ALMOST ACROSS THE BOARD IS DOWN ON OUR AQUATIC CENTERS. 
          YEAH, I SAY THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN AND I KNOW WE ARE MR.  IN THE BACK. 
          THAT'S WEIRD. 
          BUT WE HAD A LOT OF RAIN THIS YEAR. 
          I MEAN EVERYBODY, WE HAD AN UNUSUAL AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT IN JULY, I MEAN IN JUNE, JULY, VERY UNUSUAL. 
          AND IT HAS HURT OUR ATTENDANCE NUMBERS AT THE POOLS. 
          IT'S BEEN UNUSUAL. 
          THIS, THIS TRINA'S BEEN SHIFTING FOR A WHILE NOW. 
          I USED TO START SHOOTING. 
          WE, WE GOT A LOT OF RAIN IN APRIL. 
          IT WAS MARCH AND APRIL. 
          IT HAS NOW SHIFTED TO THIS YEAR WAS THE FIRST TIME I SAW ALL THE RAIN HAPPENING AT THE END OF JUNE OF JULY BEFORE IT USED TO BE APRIL, MAY. 
          IT IS SHIFTING. 
          AND WE ALSO DID A BUDGETARY COVERAGE. 
          SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THE SCHEDULE, BECAUSE WE CUT THE DAYS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SHOWING THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE. 
          SO REGARDLESS IF THE POOLS WERE OPERATING THREE DAYS, SIX DAYS A WEEK, THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE IS THE AVERAGE. 
          JUST, IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT THE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE COMMUNITY POOLS ARE UP AND THAT THE AQUATIC CENTER, IT'S JUST AN INTERESTING OBSERVATION. 
          UH, THAT'S ALL I HAD. 
          THANK YOU MAD. 
          AND, AND ALSO YOU SEE MARTIN WIFE WENT UP REAL GOOD, BUT I I, I STILL MEMO TO MY COMMUNITY AND SAID WE GOT THREE DAYS, I GOTTA SHOW UP. 
          AND THEY DID THIS HERE AND I APPRECIATE THEM OUT THERE. 
          SHOUT OUT TO MY COMMUNITY. 
          UH, WE'LL GO TO MR. SLAUGHTER. 
          HMM. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, SO , YOU SEE HIM, IT LOOKS LIKE A BOMB SHIELD AND THERE'S REALLY A BOMB ATTACK AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GO. 
          UH, SECOND OF ALL, I KNOW WE HAVE TO ASK A QUESTION, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MY POSITION, ONCE STAFF GIVES US A BRIEF, GIVE US THE INFORMATION, UH, WE SHOULD SUPPORT THAT. 
          THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATION. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. 
          THAT'S MY TAKE. 
          AND WE, WE, WE HAVE THE BUDGET INFORMATION, WE KNOW, KNOW WHERE WE ARE. 
          AND SO, UH, WHEN STAFF BRINGS US SOMETHING AND GIVE US ALL IMPORTANT PERTINENT INFORMATION AND WE SCRUTINIZE I LITTLE QUESTIONS AND FACTS, OUR MAIN PURPOSES, WE SUPPORT THAT. 
          SO I'M IN THE COURT OF, UH, OF THIS AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY 
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THANK YOU MR. SLAUGHTER. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          MS. AGAIN, YEAH, THANK UM, THE WEATHER ISSUE IS DEFINITELY SPEAKING WITH , SUMMER . 
          UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMPLAINING I'VE BEEN GETTING  DEGREE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          I LIKE THE IDEA. 
          THE  ALSO PROBABLY MORE HYGIENIC, ACTIVELY MANAGED AS MUCH , SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT. 
          JUST SIT IN THE POOL. 
          RIGHT? THEY ALSO ACTIVE KIDS THAT RUN AROUND AND CAUSE FOR HAVING SEEN THE, THAT WAS JUST A RANDOM IDEA, SORT OF CREATIVE FINANCIAL THINKING. 
          OKAY, I HAVE NO IDEA THIS IS EVEN APPROPRIATE TO RAISE. 
          YOU MENTIONED THAT WAS AWARE OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MASSIVE FUL DUE TO PART TO COVER THAT. 
          HAS THERE EVER BEEN A POSSIBILITY OF EXPLORING RELATIONSHIP WITH UTILITY THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE HOLIDAY SEASON I ENROLL  LINE IS SET UP A POSITION, THESE THINGS ARE SPONSORED BY. 
          COOL. 
          IF PERHAPS X, Y, Z ENERGY COMPANY, POWER  KNOW THAT IS POSSIBLE, BUT , THANK YOU SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I ALSO JUST WONDERED ON THE NUMBERS FOR, UM, ATTENDANCE AND SORRY, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT 23 VERSUS 25. 
          WHY DID WE NOT HAVE 20? YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THERE WAS THREE POOLS THAT WERE BUT I GUESS FOR THE AQUATICS YEAH, FOR THE, THERE WAS THREE POOLS THAT WERE CLOSED. 
          UH, FAR AS THE FAR AS, NO, NO, HE'S SAYING ON THE FAMILY AQUATICS. 
          I THINK I JUST ACTUALLY WE HAD THE SAME COMPARISON. 
          BOTH. 
          YEAH, I'D JUST  I'D BE CURIOUS. 
          OKAY, 23, 24 AS WELL. 
          JUST CONCERN ABOUT THE NUMBERS. 
          BIG VECTOR. 
          UM, AND SO IF WE, IF WE DECOMMISSION IT'S TWO TOOLS WOULD SAY 200,000. 
          UM, I, I FULLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IF I DON'T HAVE ANY IN MY DISTRICT, LIKE IT'S EASY FOR ME MORE. 
          BUT I MEAN, IT FEELS LIKE EVEN IN THE TIME I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS. 
          AND BEFORE I SEE THE NEWS AND HAVE TO DO IT EVENTUALLY AND  WHERE WE CAN, UH, PUSHING FOR ROBOTIC CENTERS AND UH, SPLASH PADS, WHATEVER OTHER WATER AMENITIES FOR THOSE. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTA EVENTUALLY PULL THIS BANDAID OFF THESE PEOPLE. 
          I, I, AS I SAID IN THE EARLIER BRIEFING, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT UNDERFUNDING FAIR PARK PARTICULARLY RIGHT NOW, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE THINK WE NEED. 
          SO I, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ANSWER ON HOW TO COME UP WITH MORE MONEY, BUT ANYWAY WE CAN. 
          UM, I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH IT ON SLIDE FIVE WITH THESE, THESE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS. 
          THAT'S, I I FEEL GOOD ABOUT ALL OF 'EM COME IN FOR THE, UM, REDUCTION IN THE EXTRA HAPPY HOURS FOR EVENTS CELEBRATING OURSELVES BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A POOR  FUNDS AND POOR AND TOUGH BUDGET TIMES. 
          SO THINK THAT'S A SMART MOVE. 
          SO ANY OTHER EFFICIENCIES WE CAN FIND TO, TO POTENTIALLY INCREASE THE ALLOCATION OF FAIR PARK, THAT WOULD BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          WE WERE DOING BUDGET. 
          HOPEFULLY WE NEVER GO THAT FAR. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I DO WANNA MENTION THE, UH, UH, LAST YEAR, UH, ME OF US CAME TOGETHER AND THAT NINE 
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OF THE COMM, UH, COMMUNITY POOL WERE SUBJECT TO CLOSURE. 
          AND THAT KIND OF, UH, IT KIND OF HIT US LIKE, LIKE A BRICK IN THE FACE. 
          IT WAS SUCH A SHOCK. 
          WE CAME TOGETHER AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN'T DO THAT. 
          WE CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND SAID, OKAY, SCALING BACK, UH, UH, CLOSED A COUPLE AGO. 
          WE HAD THREE DAYS OF CLOSURE. 
          EVEN ME, WHO PERHAPS WAS MAKING THE, THE MOST EMOTIONAL POLICE PULLS OPEN, KNEW AND RECOGNIZED THAT WE WERE JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN. 
          AND WE KNEW THAT COME NEXT AUGUST, 12 MONTHS AGO, WE WOULD HAVE, I LOOK AT THIS DATA AND I LOVE DATA, I WORK WITH DATA . 
          AND IT MAY, NO, IT MIGHT, MAY NOT BE NO COINCIDENCE AT ALL THAT, UH, THREE OF THE, THE THREE LOWEST DAILY AVERAGES FOR 25 3 OLDEST POOLS IN OUR CITY. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S A TREND. 
          FOLKS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THESE POOLS THAT ARE BUILT IN THE FORTIES AND, AND 1954. 
          SO THE TIME PROBABLY HAS COME AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER AND LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE DID SOMETHING. 
          NOW WE'RE UNDER MORE CONSTRAINTS THAN EVER AND WE, WE HAVE TO MAKE HARDER DECISIONS THAN EVER. 
          SO NOW THE TUNE MAY CHANGE. 
          WE TALK ABOUT QUALITY. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S, UH, ALL I WANTED. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          , REAL, REAL QUICK SINCE WE START TALK ABOUT HOOP . 
          UM, I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT US TO SEE, BECAUSE I, I I KIND OF THINK OF IT AS HOLISTIC PICTURE. 
          UM, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WOULD BE OKAY WITH GETTING RID OF THE POOLS IF THEY KNEW SOMETHING ELSE. 
          AND SO IF WE COULD LOOK AT THE PRICE OF EITHER UPDATING THESE OLD POOLS VERSUS THE PRICE OF HAVING A BOX STUDENT OR A SPLASH PAD ADDED CLOSE OR IMPRO AGAINST THESE PARTS, AND THEN MAYBE THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT TO ADVOCATE FOR INSTEAD OF TRYING TO KEEP ON AN OLD PART THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          SO I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY NOT, WE'RE CUTTING, RIGHT? I KNOW WE'RE CUTTING, BUT I THINK HERE'S THE THING. 
          EVENTUALLY WE'LL HAVE A BOND AGAIN. 
          EVENTUALLY WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO COME EVERY YEAR. 
          AND SO AS YOU KNOW, JUST BEING ADVOCATE FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND, OKAY, YOU WANT US TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, A MILLION DOLLARS TO REVISE YOUR POOL OR WOULD YOUR BROTHERS PUT THAT INTO A FLASH PACK OR QUALITY OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT, THAT COULD BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW A COUPLE OF THEM THAT ARE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS WOULD PROBABLY PREFER QUIET CENTER OR SPLASH PACK. 
          THEY COMING. 
          BUT JUST SAYING NO MORE POOLS, PERIOD. 
          AND NOT GIVING THEM HOPE FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S WRAPPING. 
          THEY HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES, AT LEAST COMMUNITIES I RECOMMEND. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR D THREE  SPEAK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I KNOW THAT WHAT WE WE'RE LOOKING AT POOLS, 'CAUSE IT'S LOOKING AT POOLS AND THAT'S A HOT TOPIC HERE, BUT IF WE DO GO OVER WITH THIS, WE HAVE TO CHOOSE BUT TO CHOOSE TWO, MAYBE THREE POOLS THAT WE'RE GONNA CLOSE, THAT'S GONNA BE A HARD SELL FOR YOUR COMMUNITY THAT'S GONNA BE FOR YOU. 
          WHETHER IT'S MINE OR WHOEVER. 
          IT IS GONNA BE A HARD SELL. 
          BUT THE ONLY OTHER OPTION WE'RE GONNA HAVE IS, IS GO UP IN REVENUE. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA START CHARGING MORE TO GET INTO THE POOL. 
          THAT MAKES IT REASONABLE. 
          BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA THEY PRESENTED US, EVEN THE AQUATIC CENTERS ARE LOSING MONEY, RIGHT? IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU RENT THE WHOLE ATION, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOSING MONEY ALSO. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA COME TO A HARD LINE. 
          AGAIN, I MENTIONED THIS LAST YEAR. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POOL. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WE'RE HAVE, GO UP ON THE FEE OR EVENTUALLY EVEN THE AQUATIC CENTERS' NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET UPDATED BECAUSE WE'RE LOSING MONEY EVERY YEAR ON 'EM. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          I MEAN, NOBODY WANTS TO PUT UP THEIR, THEIR PULL UP OR CUT OR THEIR CLOTHES, RIGHT?  CAN RESPOND THERE FACE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, SO, SO, SO I MEAN NOBODY WANTS TO DO THAT. 
          SO THAT, SO WE HAVE TO REALLY MAKE A HARD DECISION ON THIS. 
          BUT OTHER THINGS TO LOOK AT TOO IS NOT JUST WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US HERE. 
          I WOULD CHALLENGE THE STAFF TO LOOK AT WHAT REVENUE WE CAN DRIVE IN. 
          IS IT, UH, I KNOW WE, WE LOOKED AT SUMMER CAMPS THIS YEAR. 
          WE WENT UP A LITTLE BIT AND THAT, AND ACTUALLY I DON'T THINK WE HAD SO MUCH REDUCTION IN SUMMER CAMP. 
          PEOPLE THAT CAME IN. 
          DO WE RAISE UP ANOTHER FIVE BUCKS? OR IF, IF THAT'S THE, OKAY, I'M JUST, I'M THROWING THAT OUT. 
          I KNOW WE, WE RAISED THAT PRICE AND WE STILL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER THAT WE HAD IN PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          THAT COULD BE WRONG. 
          CORRECT ME IF, IF I'M RIGHT. 
          YOU SAME AS LAST YEAR. 
          SAME AS LAST YEAR. 
          SO EVEN US GOING UP, WE STILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF KIDS COMING IN. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE STILL UNDER PRICE TECHNICALLY AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE UNDERPRICED, WHETHER IT'S POOLS, WHETHER IT'S UM, UH, OTHER SERVICES THAT WE RENDER IN THE FACILITIES, WE GIVE OUT, WE GOLF, UH, WE GIVE OUT, UH, FREE RED CARTS, RIGHT? WHY CAN'T WE CHARGE A SMALL FEE FOR THAT? I'M NOT SAYING CHARGE 25 OR 50 BUCKS A YEAR, $5 FOR, FOR THE, THAT WE DO 
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YOU FREE. 
          AND AT ONE TIME THERE WERE FIVE BUCKS, IF I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY. 
          I'VE BEEN AROUND, I'VE BEEN AROUND 20 YEARS. 
          I THINK I REMEMBER, REMEMBER THE PRICING. 
          SO WE WERE CHARGING FIVE BUCKS ABOUT 10, FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          THEN WE WENT TO FREE. 
          AND, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, WITH INFLATION, WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT MAYBE IT IS TO FIVE BUCKS. 
          WE CHARGE FOR KIDS FOR RENT CARS, JUST TO GET THAT SOME REVENUE IN, UH, OR HIGHER FOR ADULTS. 
          WHATEVER HAPPENS TO THE CASE. 
          WE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE A HARD LINE AND TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          WHAT IS OUR NUMBER? CAN WE CHARGE AND STILL GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF KIDS? BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DATA THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US A LITTLE EARLIER IF YOU LOOK AT IT BECAUSE SHE, IT'S THE REC RECREATIONAL CENTER, UH, CENTER ATTENDANCE. 
          I WAS ACTUALLY, I I QUESTION THIS. 
          THEY CAN ASK, IS THIS TRUE? I MEAN, KISS SPRINGS IS ONE OF OUR BUSIEST REC CENTERS. 
          I THINK IT BRINGS TOP 10 REVENUE. 
          LOT OF REC CENTERS. 
          MAYBE, MAYBE MAYBE TOP FIVE. 
          BUT I COULD BE WRONG. 
          THAT'S MINE. 
          I'M USING MY EXAMPLE SO THAT WAY NOBODY THINKS I'M PICKING ON 'EM. 
          WE ONLY HAD 17,000, 17,500 PEOPLE SCAN THEIR CARDS IN THE REC CENTER. 
          ALRIGHT? IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S PIN THIS, BUT THAT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE SCAN THEIR CARDS. 
          AND HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE MULTIPLE 17,000 MAYBE. 
          SO REALLY THE NUMBER COULD BE 5,000, 6,000 PEOPLE ACTUALLY SCAN THEIR CARD. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU SCAN IT EVERY TIME IT'S MULTIPLE PEOPLE SCANNING THE SAME CARD. 
          IT'S HARD TO, IT IS HARD TO SAY WE'RE, WE'RE BRINGING IN BUSINESS. 
          IF THOSE WEREN'T HALF THE KIDS, WE DIDN'T EVEN GET $5 FOR THOSE KIDS. 
          SO IT'S JUST A THING, A THING. 
          WE GOTTA DRIVE REVENUE DIFFERENT WAYS BY MAYBE CHARGING A FEE. 
          WE HAVE A PROGRAM RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE AVERAGE SCHOOL PROGRAM'S GONNA START NEXT WEEK AND WE'RE GONNA PICK UP, UH, EVERYON HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT NUMBER. 
          I THINK THEY GO FROM 24 TO TO 48, A CERTAIN NUMBER. 
          EVERY REC CENTER HAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER. 
          IT DEPENDS ON THE REC CENTER AND THE SCHOOLS THEY SERVICE. 
          AND WE GIVE THAT FOR FREE. 
          THAT'S A FREE SERVICE WHERE YOU GO PICK UP YOUR KID AND WE BRING 'EM BACK AND WE TAKE CARE OF 'EM UNTIL SIX O'CLOCK. 
          NOT PROBLEM ON THAT. 
          SO FROM, FROM BASICALLY THREE 30 TO SIX O'CLOCK WE PICK UP YOUR KID, YOU BRING 'EM BACK AND THAT'S AN AWESOME SERVICE. 
          EVERYBODY WANTS THAT. 
          AND, BUT THAT SERVICE IS BEING PROVIDED IN SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW WHERE A A A PRIVATE COMPANY IS OFFERING IT IN CERTAIN SCHOOLS AND THEY CHARGE $60 PER WEEK AND THEY DON'T EVEN PICK UP A KID. 
          YOU COME TO THE, YOU COME TO THE GYM AND THEY, THEY TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. 
          CAN WE CHARGE SOMETHING FOR THAT THAT'S STILL REASONABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE, WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY, ANY, ANY STOP OF SERVICE FOR ANYBODY THAT NEEDS IT AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE GONNA, HOW ARE WE GOING TO SUPPLEMENT THE FAMILIES, UH, SUPPLEMENT THE FAMILIES THAT CANNOT AFFORD IT. 
          AND MY THEORY HAS BEEN IF WE CHARGE $25 FOR ONE KID OR 50, WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, THEY HAVE A SECOND KID. 
          IT'S TWO FOR 75 TO HELP 'EM OUT. 
          RIGHT? IF IT'S THREE, WE GET TO 103 PLUS IS ONLY A HUNDRED A WEEK TO PICK 'EM UP. 
          SO IF THEY HAVE FOUR OR FIVE KIDS, THEY'RE STILL ONLY PAYING SO MUCH FOR THAT MANY KIDS. 
          'CAUSE IT'S STILL A SERVICE FOR EVERY 15. 
          CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. BAKER, FOR EVERY 15 KIDS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ADULT WATCH. 
          IS THAT THE NUMBER 20 TO ONE RACHEL? 40 TO ONE RACHELS. 
          SO THAT MEANS WHEN WE GO PICK UP A BUS FULL OF KIDS, A HANDFUL FULL OF KIDS OF 15 KIDS PER PER TRIP, WE HAVE TO HAVE TWO STAFF MEMBERS IN THERE, BRING 'EM IN, DROP 'EM OFF WITH ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER TO TAKE CARE OF 'EM AND GO BACK AND PICK 'EM UP. 
          AND IF IT'S A MULTIPLE LOCATION, THAT MEANS THERE'S 2, 3, 4 TRIPS THAT THAT HAPPEN. 
          SO IT TAKES ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING TO REALLY REALITY TO THINK ABOUT HOW CAN WE BE MORE EFFICIENT ON THOSE AND BRING MORE REVENUE DRIVEN PROGRAMS THAT CAN HELP US AT LEAST SUPPLEMENT THE STAFF AND OR OUR REC CENTERS. 
          SO START, THAT'S THE WORD THAT YOU BRING UP. 
          A GOOD POINT ON REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          AND THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE TO , JUST USE THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM. 
          THINK WE USED TO CHARGE $40 PER MONTH. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          BEFORE WE, UH, MAYBE ALL THE PROGRAMS FREE. 
          AND I THINK THAT BUDGET NUMBER MAY HAVE BEEN CLOSE TO $1.3 MILLION WE BROUGHT IN PER YEAR. 
          BUT I KNOW YOU MAY SAY, WELL IT SHOULD BE OUT, BE FREE. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WITH US NOT BEING ABLE TO CHARGE IT IS, IT DID LIMIT US 'CAUSE OF THE ONE TO 20 RATIO. 
          SO WE COULDN'T EVEN EXPAND THE PROGRAM BECAUSE WHEN WE WAS CHARGING, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY THAT, OH, YOU BRING IN MORE KIDS, GUESS WHAT? WE CAN BRING IN ANOTHER STAFF. 
          SO NOW YOUR RATIO CAN GO UP. 
          SO I JUST WANNA JUST MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW WE WAS DOING SOMETHING WE THOUGHT WAS BEING GOOD, BUT IT ALSO HANDCUFFED US TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM. 
          'CAUSE WE THOUGHT IF WE MADE IT FREE TO SELL THEM, WE WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO JUST EXPAND THE PROGRAM AND WELL, YEAH, THAT'S GREAT IF EVERY TIME YOU GOT A, A BUDGET ENHANCEMENT THE FOLLOWING YEAR. 
          BUT IN THIS CASE, THAT WASN'T HAPPENING. 
          SO WE LIMITED ON EXPANDING OUR PROGRAM 'CAUSE WE WASN'T CHARGING ANYMORE. 
          AND WE TRIED. 
          AND WE ALWAYS, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN 
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OUR POLICY. 
          AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC WHO MAY BE LISTENING HEARS THIS, EVEN WITH OUR SUMMER CAMPS, WHAT, WHEREVER WE CHARGE, IF SOMEONE CAN'T AFFORD OUR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM OR SUMMER CAMPS, WE SCHOLARSHIP. 
          WE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF TURNING AWAY KEYS. 
          WE AT THE SAME TOKEN, WE GOTTA RECOGNIZE THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE SHOULD BE CHARGING SOME NOMINAL FEE. 
          SO WE CAN PROVIDE A QUALITY PROGRAM FOR THE PATRONS WHO UTILIZE OUR SERVICES. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO BALANCE FREE VERSUS FEE. 
          AND WE, WE, WE, WE WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT LATITUDE AGAIN IN ORDER TO OFFER QUALITY PROGRAMS AND TO BE ABLE TO SERVE MORE RESIDENTS. 
          AND IT ALSO HELPS US NOT TAKE SOME OF OUR STAFF POSITIONS AWAY FROM THOSE REC CENTERS. 
          REC CENTERS ARE OUR CORE, BESIDES MAIN I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, MAINS AND REC CENTERS ARE OUR CORE. 
          SO, UH, NEXT I'LL GO TO MR. DICKEY ON, ON THE, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, MR. DICKEY. 
          THANK YOU MR. VICE PRESIDENT. 
          UH, WELL I WAS ONE OF THE STRONG VOICES FOR LET'S STOP CHARGING. 
          UH, AND BUT NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN INTO IT, WHAT DIRECTOR JENKINS IS SAYING LANDS WITH ME. 
          AND THAT IF THAT IS LIMITING OUR ABILITY TO EXPAND THE PROGRAMS, UM, I WOULD HOPE STAFF CAN LOOK AND TAKE A LOOK AND JUDICIOUSLY FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MIDDLE GROUND COULD BE. 
          BECAUSE IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. 
          LIKE, OKAY, NOT CHARGING IS GOOD, BUT IF IT MEANS WE CAN'T EXPAND OUR PROGRAMS, WHAT WOULD BE A MIDDLE GROUND CHARGING SOME, THERE'S A, THERE IS A MIDDLE GROUND. 
          SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT POINT THAT DIRECTOR JENKINS JUST MADE. 
          I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE. 
          UM, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. 
          UM, BACK ON THE, UM, UH, EFFICIENCIES WE'RE GOING TO CREATE, I WANT TO SECOND WHAT MR. GOLDSTEIN SAID, UH, ABOUT THE WEEKEND RIBBON CUTTINGS AND GROUNDBREAKINGS. 
          IF WE HAVE EFFICIENCIES THERE, WE CAN SAVE MONEY BY NOT DOING SO MANY OF THOSE. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          UM, IT'S SOMETHING TO BE LOOKED AT. 
          UH, BUT ONE OF THE EFFICIENCIES WAS TO SUSPEND VEGETATION REMOVAL STRATEGIES ON THE MAINTENANCE. 
          UM, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? MS. DICKEY, UH, MS. JOHNSON'S COMING UP. 
          I, HELLO EVERYONE. 
          UM, HI. 
          UM, WELL OUR, UH, I GUESS OUR, OUR STRATEGY WILL BE VEGETATION . 
          SO SOMETIMES WE HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE, WE COULD BE THE OVERTIME TO SUPPORT, SUPPORT IMPACT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY NEEDED OVERTIME SUPPORT. 
          SO IN THAT WAY IT WILL. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M, UM, WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING THE AUDIO FROM THE TABLE, SO I'LL JUST, I'LL, I'LL GET WITH YOU OFFLINE TO GET THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE. 
          I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING, BUT THANK YOU. 
          I'LL I'LL ASK THAT ONE PRIVATELY. 
          THANK YOU MR. VICKY, MR. WOOD. 
          SO AS WE LOOK AT THE EFFICIENCIES AND YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE OLD POOLS DON'T DRAW THE SAME CROWD, SO THEY'RE LOW ATTENDANCE, BUT WE CAN HAVE LOW ATTENDANCE, PUT A BRAND NEW POOL, AND WE STILL HAVE THE LOWEST ATTENDANCE IN THE AQUATICS SYSTEM. 
          UM, THAT UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENED IN ONE OF OUR POOLS THAT IT'S HONESTLY IN TODAY'S NUMBERS, WE WOULD NOT OPEN THAT POOL. 
          BUT WE'VE COMMITTED AND WE'VE BUILT A POOL FOR FOUR POINT SOME MILLION DOLLARS. 
          AND NOW WE CAN'T LET A FOUR POINT SOME MILLION DOLLARS ENTITY SIT THERE AND ROT BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY BUILT IT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO BE MORE JUDICIOUS ON WHERE WE PUT THINGS WE HAVE TO STOP TO PLAY IN POLITICS OF, OH, I WANT THIS OR I DON'T WANT THIS. 
          I DON'T, UM, LIKE SWIMMING. 
          SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT POOLS. 
          YEAH, YOU CAN CLOSE 'EM. 
          UM, YOU CAN DO THIS. 
          I MEAN, WE, WE'VE GOTTA REALLY NARROW IN, THERE'S, THERE'S THE FACTS. 
          OUR PEOPLE KNOW THE FACTS, WE KNOW THE NUMBERS ARE THERE. 
          UH, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TRENDS OF THE COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT MY POOL IS LOW, 
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BUT YET MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS AN ELDERLY SLEEPY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          NOW, NOW IT'S BECOMING YOUNG AND A LOT OF FAMILIES MOVING IN. 
          SO WILL IT CHANGE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT WHAT'S THE TREND? I MEAN, THERE'S GOTTA BE PEOPLE THAT HAVE STUDIED THAT AND KNOW THE DATA OF THAT. 
          SO WE'VE GOTTA LISTEN TO THE ACTUAL DATA VERSUS THE POLITICAL POLITICS OF IT. 
          SO I, I GET OUR POOLS ARE FRUSTRATING, BUT I WOULD NEVER ADVOCATE TO CLOSE ANY OF MY POOLS BECAUSE TO ME, WE CLOSED A LOT OF POOLS IN MY DISTRICT ALREADY. 
          UM, I HAVE ONE OF 'EM THAT I HAVE THE COMMUNITY FIGHTING TO GET REOPENED THAT WE CLOSED HOW MANY YEARS AGO. 
          AND IT'S STILL SITTING THERE AS A VACANT POOL. 
          SO IT'S AN EYESORE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE COMMUNITY'S WONDERING WHY WE DON'T FILL IT UP WITH WATER AND START SWIM WHILE ALL THE FILTRATION AND ALL THAT'S ALL GONE. 
          BUT YET THE, THE POOL WAS NEVER FILLED IN. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE DATA AND LIKE STOP CHASING PERSONAL AGENDAS OF, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE THEM, WE ALL ARE FIGHTING FOR WHAT WE THINK IS RIGHT. 
          WE KIND OF LOOK AT THE DATA BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY FACE THAT OR THEY DEAL WITH THAT ON A NUMBER, THE NUMBERS ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          AND MR WILL YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT ON THE DATA? AND WE ARE GONNA HAVE THAT, I'M HOPING BY DATE THIS FALL, THIS WINTER WE HAVE THE UPDATED AQUATICS MASTER PLAN. 
          TO YOUR POINT, I'M HOPING THAT THE DECISIONS THAT EXPERTS HAVE LOOKED AT TRENDS AND LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF A PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHETHER THEY'RE MAKING CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHAT ACTIONS SHOULD BE TAKEN TOWARDS US FUTURE OR NO FUTURE ACQUIRING FACILITIES IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          THAT'S WHAT EXPERTS DO AND THAT'S WHY WE HIRE THEM. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF EXPERTISE. 
          UH, THE SECOND THING YOU KNOW, IS I WANNA USE THE WORD DECOMMISSION. 
          THE REASON I SAY THAT, I KNOW THAT'S, YOU CALL DECOMMISSIONS JUST WASN'T SOMETHING I GOT OLD, IT USED AS USEFUL LIFE AND IT'S NOT SERVING ITS PURPOSE ANYMORE FROM A QUALITY LEVEL. 
          AND SO AT SOME POINT YOU GOTTA START DECOMMISSIONING SOME STUFF. 
          AND I'M SORRY, Y'ALL, OUR SURVEY IS SHOWING THAT KEEPING THEM OPEN IS CREATING A PERCEPTION OF THE PARK SYSTEM. 
          THAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF THINGS WE HAVE THEM UTILIZING WHEN ALL OF YOU ALL AT THIS TABLE IS COMMITTED TO TAKING THE PARK SYSTEM FORWARD. 
          AND I KNOW IT'S A HARD DECISION POLITICALLY, EMOTIONALLY, BUT OUR DECISION IS BEING BASED ON THE FACTS AND THAT THESE POOLS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DECOMMISSIONED AND WHEN THERE IS FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR WHATEVER REPLACEMENT THAT THE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO RECOMMEND. 
          SO WITH, WITH THAT ALL BEING SAID AS WELL, UM, WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON MASTER PLANS AND THE DIFFERENT DATA. 
          THERE'S COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT CAN PROVIDE A LOT OF THAT DATA FOR LITTLE OR NO MONEY. 
          UM, THEY'RE DATA EXPERTS. 
          THEY HAVE THE, UM, I MEAN PLAY CORE IS A VERY BIG EXAMPLE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE DATA ABOUT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHO'S MOVING INTO NEIGHBORHOODS EXCUSE MOVING NOT IN NEIGHBORHOODS, THE AGES AND THE DEMOGRAPHICS. 
          WE NEED TO UTILIZE THOSE INSTEAD OF SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY EVEN LIKE OUR MASTER PLANS. 
          'CAUSE WE SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND WE DON'T NEED TO. 
          YEAH. 
          NOW, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, I I'M GOING TO HAVE TO JUST FROM SOMEONE WHO LIVE THE HISTORY OF THIS PARK SYSTEM AND WHAT MASTER PLANS HAVE DONE FOR OUR PARK SYSTEM, I AM GOING TO, I CAN'T AGREE THAT MASTER PLANS AND COMP PLANS DOES NOT PAY DIVIDENDS FOR THE SPARK SYSTEM. 
          AND THE REASON YOU GOTTA DO A MASTER PLAN, JUST SO EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND IT, THE REASON YOU HAVE TO DO MASTER PLANS IS IF YOU WANT ANY CHANCE OF GETTING GRANTS AND FUNDING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN IF YOU WANT ANY CHANCE ON GETTING, WHEN IT COMES TO A COMP PLAN, WHEN IT COMES TO OUR ACCREDITATION, WE HAVE 
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TO HAVE A COMP PLAN. 
          AND TWO, THOSE COMP PLANS ALONE HELP DRIVE US ON HOW WE CHANGE OUR PARK SYSTEM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT GOING THROUGH. 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA SAY NO, I CAN'T AGREE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARK SYSTEM, MASTER PLANS ARE NOT RELEVANT BECAUSE THEY'RE RELEVANT BECAUSE ONE, THEY COME FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          THAT'S NUMBER ONE. 
          THEY'RE THE DRIVERS WHO DECIDING WHAT GOES IN A MASTER PLAN. 
          I MEAN, THEY OWN A MASTER PLAN, THEY OWN IT. 
          I WASN'T SAYING A MASTER PLAN ISN'T NECESSARY. 
          OKAY? I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE SHOULDN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY ON THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DATA AND WE'RE SPENDING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR THAT DATA. 
          LET ME ASK THAT WHEN WE SAY DATA, BECAUSE THE TEAMS THAT, THE PEOPLE WHO DO OUR MASTER PLANS, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY ON THEIR TEAM, MAYBE JUST WHO YOU JUST MENTIONED. 
          SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT DATA, THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOLDING THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT GOING TO OTHER SYSTEMS AND FINDING OUT HOW THEY'RE DOING THE THINGS. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. 
          IT'S NOT JUST THAT THEY JUST PULL DATA. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF COMPONENTS THAT IT GOES INTO WHEN WE HIRE A CONSULTANT AND YOU KNOW, LIKE ME, THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IN HOUSE, YOU KNOW, IN THE HEARTBEAT. 
          I THINK ALL YOU ALL KNOW, I'M LIKE, NOPE, WE'RE DOING IT IN HOUSE AND WE AIN'T GOING TO PAY THOSE TYPE OF PRICE. 
          THANK YOU MR. SPLIT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SECOND ROUND, MS HAS, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT THIS IS GONNA BE TO MAKE THIS DECISION ABOUT WHICH POOLS NEED TO BE CLOSED, UH, IT, IT MADE ME JUST THINK, WELL HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS EXERCISE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE KIND OF REALLY FEEL OKAY ABOUT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PAINFUL BECAUSE ALMOST EVERYTHING WE DO IS AT A LOSS. 
          LIKE OUR, OUR FIELDS AND OUR, LIKE THE PROGRAM, THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM THAT WE'RE DOING FOR FREE, WE DO SO MANY, LIKE THE PARK DEPARTMENT ISN'T HERE TO, LIKE, OUR MAIN GOAL IN LIFE IS TO MAKE MONEY. 
          SO WE TRY TO DO A GOOD JOB OF BALANCING WITH THAT, WITH LIKE, IF WE CAN RAISE THE PRICES A LITTLE MORE, BUT STILL MAKE IT, UH, ATTAINABLE FOR OUR PUBLIC. 
          SO I THINK IT WENT, ONE EXERCISE THAT I DID A LONG TIME AGO WHEN I WAS INVOLVED WITH DISD, WHEN THEY HAD THEIR BUDGETING PROCESS, THEY WOULD BASICALLY SHOW UP AND SAY, HERE'S THE FIVE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FUND. 
          HERE'S THE MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO FUND IT. 
          LIKE WHERE DO YOU WANNA PUT YOUR MONEY? SO MAYBE WHEN WE GET TO THIS THING, IF WE COULD HAVE SOME KIND OF LIKE COMPARE AND CONTRAST, LIKE, OKAY, WELL OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR REC CENTERS COST US THIS MUCH TO KEEP GOING. 
          THIS PROGRAM COST US THIS MUCH TO KEEP GOING. 
          OUR POOLS ARE COSTING  TO KEEP GOING IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REDUCE SOMETHING. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE POOLS IF WE CAN REDUCE FROM OTHER SECTIONS, BUT WE AS A BOARD, I DON'T THAT'S WHAT YOU DO AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SO GOOD AT. 
          I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WE GET THE, WE GET THIS PART AND WE'RE LIKE, GOOD JOB BECAUSE LORD, WE KNOW THAT'S HARD. 
          IT'S A PUZZLE, RIGHT? YOU'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO FIT THOSE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE. 
          SO MAYBE IF WE COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, EVEN IF IT'S JUST INFORMATION TO SAY WE'RE TAKING FROM THE POOLS BECAUSE COMPARED TO THESE OTHER THINGS, THEY'RE DRIVING THE MOST LOSS. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US WHEN WE DO THE NEXT ROUNDS OF HAVING TO ACTUALLY SELECT THINGS TO CLOSE. 
          'CAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE JUST SAYING IT'S THE, IT'S THE BIGGEST LOSS, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPARE THAT TO. 
          YEAH, AND I, I WANNA MAKE, I MEAN WHEN WE SAY MODEL, IT'S, IT'S THE BIGGEST INEFFICIENT THING, CORRECT? LIKE WE SERVE A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          YES. 
          A LOT OF GREAT SERVICES WITH X COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ONE. 
          IT IS, IT'S UNTENABLE. 
          BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO SHOW THE COMPUTER TO SOME OF OUR OTHER, SOMETHING SIMILAR. 
          WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMPLAIN THAT'S GOING TO KIND OF LOOK AT, I, I KNOW WE MENTIONED, I TALKED TO MY TEAM THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE JUST SCHEDULE MEETINGS. 
          MAY NOT BE A RETREAT, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME ON THE BOARD. 
          THESE ARE OUR CORE SERVICES, RIGHT? AND HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO, AND THIS IS WHAT OUR CORE SERVICES AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE FUND THESE THINGS AT THIS LEVEL. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT YOU CAN'T FUND EVERYTHING. 
          YOU CAN'T AT A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          YOU JUST CAN'T. 
          AND, AND, AND SIMON, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND I, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          IF, IF YOU EVER REMEMBER A BOND PROCESS, WE GOT INTO THE WEEDS, NOBODY WANTED TO CUT THEIR PROJECTS. 
          AND SO EVERYBODY GOT A REDUCTION. 
          EVERY, I FEEL LIKE EVERY MEETING WE'RE REDUCING, THIS COULD HAPPEN HERE. 
          WE DON'T BE CAREFUL. 
          WE MIGHT HAVE TO CUT A PROGRAM OR TWO TO GET THE OTHER PROGRAMS FUNDED, WHATEVER THAT IS, WHATEVER THAT THAT ENDS UP BEING. 
          BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT EFFICIENT NUMBER INSTEAD OF US CUTTING BACK LIKE WE DID A BOND AND NOW YOU KNOW, WE GONNA FIND SOME DEFICIT SOMEWHERE PRETTY SOON WAS GONE. 
          BUT, UM, ABOUT MR. DICKEY, JO HAND UP FOR A SECOND ROUND. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU MR. VICE PRESIDENT. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ON THE, THE MASTER PLANS. 
          IT DOES RELATE TO THE BUDGET AND THE BONDS. 
          IT IS, UM, YES WE NEED MASTER PLANS, BUT WHAT I'VE NOTICED IS WE, WE, WE 
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SHOULD THINK, WELL I'LL JUST TAKE SAMUEL FARM AS A GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          UH, WE, WHEN THE BOARD WAS BRIEFED ON IT, DOING A MASTER PLAN, IT'D BE ABOUT 200,000. 
          WELL, WHEN IT CAME TO THE BOARD IT WAS A $400,000 MASTER PLAN. 
          ONE OF MY REGRETS IS THAT I DIDN'T CHALLENGE THAT. 
          IN THE END, I THINK THE STAFF DECIDED TO CUT THAT BACK TO 350,000. 
          BUT WHAT RESULTED IN THAT MASTER PLAN STILL HAS NOT BEEN FINISHED IS WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO US. 
          AND UH, CHAIR HASI CAN CONFIRM THIS AT OUR ADMIN AND FINANCE COMMITTEE IS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IT WOULD TAKE TO BUILD OUT THE MASTER PLAN THAT ARE NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. 
          SO ALL I WOULD ASK THE STAFF TO DO AT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STAFF AND DESIGN STAFF IS WHEN WE'RE GOING INTO MASTER PLANS, DON'T LET OUR CONSULTANTS DO CADILLAC VERSIONS THAT WE KNOW WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BE FUNDED. 
          THAT'S MY 2 CENTS ON MASTER PLANS. 
          YES, THEY'RE NECESSARY, BUT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT PAYING CONSULTANTS A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO DREAM UP GREAT THINGS THAT THAT CAN NEVER BE FUNDED. 
          THAT'S JUST A POINT GOING FORWARD. 
          THANKS. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          GOOD POINT MR. DICK. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          NEXT, MS. MOND, I I JUST WANNA REITERATE, UM,  SAID, I I I'M FULLY AGREE. 
          LIKE I THINK THAT'S THE POINT IN THE CITY HAVING A PARKS AND RECS DEPARTMENT, WE ARE NOT A FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. 
          WE'RE HERE TO UNDERWRITE AND FILL IN THE GAP THE CITY HAS APPOINTED US TO HELP FILL IN THE GAPS THAT MAKES SENSE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE THE PARK AND RECREATION SERVICES THAT THEY DESIRE. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING TO. 
          LIKE IF WE'RE GONNA TAKE AWAY POOLS, WE HAVE TO GIVE COMMUNITY SOMETHING ELSE TO LOOK FORWARD TO AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO WHAT THEY REALLY WANT TO DO. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M NOT IN DISAGREEMENT IF IT'S ONLY 39 PEOPLE USING THE POOL. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE BEST USE OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT COULD THAT, WOULD THAT GO TO WHAT, HOW COULD WE ENHANCE WHAT'S ALREADY THERE? YOU KNOW, LIKE THOSE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I THINK WE HAVE TO PRESENT THESE IN VERSUS JUST, OKAY, WE'RE CUTTING BECAUSE THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          WE'RE ENHANCING SOMETHING ELSE BY CUTTING THIS SO IT'S NOT A SUM ZERO GAME AND WE WILL BE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO WITH UNDERWRITE THAT LASTS IN BRADLEY SERVICES. 
          OR WE WOULD JUST DO AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM A NONPROFIT THAT SERVICE IS, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE, RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UP. 
          JUST UM, PERHAPS THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY IN 2024 BOND PROJECTS THAT CAN BE THOSE PRIOR PRIORITIZED PROJECTS THAT CAN BE TIED TO, WE CLOSED THE, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS THING . 
          I'M SURE THERE'S SOME POSSIBILITY THERE. 
          UM, AND WHILE WE, WHILE WE'VE OPERATED A LOSS AND OUR JOB ISN'T TO MAKE MONEY, SO TO SPEAK THIS, THAT HAVE TAX, WE ACTUALLY ARE MAKING A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT MEET. 
          THAT IS OUR CHARGE THAT MIGHT NOT BEAR OUT, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET. 
          IT'S REALLY WORTH DOING. 
          CUTTING SERVICES, TOOLS, PARTS, WHATEVER ELSE COMMUNITY IS, IT'S DOWNWARD SMART, UNATTRACTIVE TO. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          LOAD THE HANDS UP. 
          UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. BEAR. 
          HOLD. 
          WE NEED LITTLE GOD TODAY. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS FOR ME IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT, BUT I'M STILL HEARING THAT THE FOODS IS STILL, ARE YOU ALL THERE OR NOT? I THINK NO HARD NOTES THAT I HEARD. 
          IT WAS JUST GO HARD. 
          WHICH ONES? I THINK EVERYBODY JUST WANTS TO HAVE A, WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A PROGRAMMING THAT'S GONNA ENHANCE KIND OF S WORK. 
          THE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DO. 
          IF WE DO SHUT DOWN THEIR POOL OR ALL POLLS, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA GET BACK IN RETURN? I GUESS IT'S SO WE CAN, WE GOTTA GO TO THE PUBLIC AND TELL 'EM, CUT YOUR POOL, BUT WE'RE BRINGING YOU A SPLASH PAD TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS OR YEAH. 
          AND THE TIMELINE TO THAT I THINK IS REALLY, I HAVE A FEELING A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL CLOSE DOWN MY POOL BECAUSE I DON'T GO THERE. 
          SO WHO KNOWS WHAT KIND OF CAN OF WORM DROVE WAS IN THERE, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PROBLEM. 
          IT WOULD BE ANY PROBLEM. 
          YEAH, I 
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THINK WAY BETTER. 
          AND THAT'S THAT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, NOBODY'S READY . 
          NOBODY'S NOBODY, NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT ME. 
          SO THAT MEANS THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I MEAN I THINK NOBODY IS GONNA BE SURPRISED THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE CUTS TO THE AQUATICS PROGRAM BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL TALKED ABOUT HOW MUCH OF A DRAGON IS, IT'S NOT TENABLE 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T EVEN BUY THE PARTS TO REPLACE IT. 
          I MEAN IN, IN THAT SENSE LIKE THAT JUST IS RATIONAL. 
          SO WE ALSO WANNA SEE SOME OTHER ENHANCEMENTS OR HOW WE REVENUE DRIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          WE'RE NOT SAYING GO FROM FREE TO, UH, A HUNDRED BUCKS A WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE'RE, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVERYBODY AGREE THAT OR NOT, BUT I MEAN IT'S KIND OF ENHANCE. 
          SO Y'ALL AGREE, AGREE ON THE PREMISE OF THAT, THAT $200,000 NEEDS TO BE CUT FROM THE AQUATICS BUDGET AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          BRING YOU THE TWO FOODS THAT WOULD LIKE TO DECOMMISSION VISION AS PART OF THIS SYSTEMATIC PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          AND THEN REMEMBER, I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND, I KNOW YOU MAY SEE AN AVERAGE ATTENDANCE, BUT WE STILL GOTTA KEEP IN MIND, THAT'S WHY WE HAD THESE FOUR CRITERIA HERE. 
          IF THERE'S NOT ANOTHER AQUATICS FACILITY NEARBY, THEY MAY HAVE THE LOWEST ATTENDANCE, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER AQUATICS FACILITY NEARBY TO SERVE THEM. 
          SO IT, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK I'M GONNA COME BACK AND YOU JUST THINK IT'S GONNA BE THIS POOL BECAUSE THEY HIT THE LOWEST AVERAGE ATTENDANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS WE GOTTA LOOK AT IN THOSE FOUR FACTORS ABOUT AVERAGE ATTENDANCE, PROXIMITY TO THE NEXT AQUATICS FACILITY AND OF COURSE THE AGE OF THE FACILITY BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT HOW MUCH IT REALLY IS COSTING US IS NOT BUDGETED. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND EXPENSES THAT CONTINUE TO HAPPEN AT THIS POOL BECAUSE IT'S JUST OLD. 
          AND THEN THE CURRENT AQUATIC AMENITIES ON THAT PART, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU I GOT ONE POOL THAT ALREADY HAS A, AN AQUATICS AMENITY OWN IT. 
          SO YES, I JUST, OKAY, SO I HAVE MY MARCHING ORDERS. 
          WE WILL COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE TWO PROPOSED FOODS. 
          WHAT THING? UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I, I DOUBT ALL THE POOLS ARE ALL THE SAME SIZE. 
          SO ALONG WITH THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE AS METRIC, COULD WE SEE THE CAPACITY OF THE FACILITY AS WELL? WELL, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THESE POOLS AND RAUL CAN CORRECT ME, MR. ROBLES, BUT THESE ALL POOLS WERE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME FOOTPRINT. 
          YEAH. 
          TURN INTO SKATE PARKS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. 
          THANK YOU MS. BERRY. 
          UH, NEXT WE'VE GOT LIAISON REPORT AND REPORTS. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SHOUT OUTS. 
          OKAY, WELL I, I'VE GOT A FEW, UH, I'LL BE QUICK. 
          UH, I WANNA RECOGNIZE MY PAL IN THE BACK. 
          KIND OF A BIG PROMOTION, RIGHT? IT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL. 
          IT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE CALL THAT OUT. 
          UH, ANOTHER BIG DEAL, UH, MY OTHER PAL, UM, MORRIS UNCOVERED RECENTLY PASSED IS CERTIFIED  PROFESSIONAL CERTIFICATION AND THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL TOO. 
          AND LASTLY, UH, MADAM SECRETARY POINTER AND MR. FOSTER. 
          UH, MATT, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW MR. SLA, I, YOUR HONOR, BIG CHECK SAYS COUNTY AND . 
          WE HAVE PARTY STAFF, ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS. 
          SO BRAVE THOUGHT HERCULES. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT, I THINK TAKING HIM HIS TASK , STEVE, BRIAN, CRYSTAL AND RENEE HAVE ABSOLUTE GREAT STAFF. 
          AND I, I'M, I'M SO . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          Y'ALL LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY STAFF COME MAKE SOMEONE ELSE'S. 
          THANKS. 
          COME ON UP. 
          MARK. 
          DO I ENJOY HEARING FROM BOTH? OKAY, 
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BUT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SPLASH BASH, KEVIN, IS THAT ONE OF THOSE? YES. 
          MARINA. 
          THAT, THAT'S ONE. 
          BUT THIS IS ONE THAT, THAT YOU ALL CAN HAVE EMAIL AS WELL AS  THAT ANOTHER CONCERT SERIES IN THE PARK. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THIS IS THE ONE I WAS COMING UP FOR. 
          SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO COME UP WITH A SIGNATURE PARK DEPARTMENT EVENT. 
          AND SO  TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING FUN, SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, CONSISTENT WITH OUR BRAND AND CONSISTENT WITH OUR MISSION IS. 
          AND SO OUR TEAM, THEY COORDINATING A PAYDAY HUSTLE, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE ON OCTOBER 11TH. 
          YOU'LL GET SEVERAL MORE REMINDERS, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THE REGISTRATION IS OPEN. 
          YOU CAN WALK, YOU CAN DRIVE, YOU CAN JOG, YOU CAN SPRINT TOTALLY UP TO YOU OR WHATEVER YOUR FITNESS LEVEL IS. 
          BUT THIS IS OPEN TO THE ENTIRE FAMILY. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. 
          WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT IT. 
          IT'S TIME TO REGISTER NOW. 
          WE WANNA REGISTER BEFORE THE FEES IT. 
          WHERE IS IT? IT'S GONNA TAKE PLACE ON UT DALLAS, T DALLAS, UM, SIMI HILLS, RUNNING CREEK TRAIL. 
          THIS IS TRAIL RUN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YEP. 
          COOL. 
          TRAIL  PARK. 
          IT IS. 
          IT IS STILL LOCATED BY  BASED HEADING. 
          IT'S DATED. 
          IT'S JUST THE THING. 
          SO IT'S BASICALLY, MAYBE YOU'RE WEARING NEL. 
          IT'S KIND OF TRANSITIONING INTO THAT FALL. 
          SO, AWESOME. 
          CAREFUL AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          CAN I RIDE BY ANYBODY? I DIDN'T DRIVE MY GOLF CART. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS DEAL, SOME OF YOU ALL HOPEFULLY ALL HAVE TO GO ALL UH, FOR IN PERSON. 
          YOU RECEIVED YOUR INVITATION TO THE UPCOMING EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP ACADEMY. 
          AND SO DIRECTOR DEAN HAS WANTED TO REALLY START TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING THE MUTUAL LEADERS OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO THERE HAS BEEN A LEADERSHIP SERIES THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS. 
          WE HAVE OUR INAUGURAL COHORT OF NINE MEMBERS, WHICH WE WILL HAVE A LAUNCH OF THIS PROGRAM ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 15TH. 
          SO YOU ALL ARE INVITED TO EXPERIENCE THAT WITH US WHERE WE'LL TALK MORE IN DEPTHLY ABOUT WHAT THIS CURRICULUM WILL CONSIST OF, WHY AND HOW THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE IDENTIFIED. 
          YOU'LL SEE THEIR BIOS. 
          WE LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THEM, BUT THE REALITY IS SOME OF US ARE OLD, SOME OF US HAVE BEEN, BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT THE WHO'S NEXT AND PREPARING THEM WELL IN ADVANCE SO THEY CAN TAKE, TAKE THIS DEPARTMENT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. 
          SO YOU HAVE THE INVITATION THERE. 
          IT'S A BEAUTIFUL INVITATION. 
          WE KNOW THAT YOU ALL WILL RESPOND, UH, TO EMAILS AS WELL. 
          SO WE'LL SEND YOU EMAIL FOR RESPONDENT. 
          THIS IS FRIENDLY REMINDERS, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU IN ATTENDANCE AFTERNOON. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE THE R SV P SI BY TWO DAYS AGO, VP DAYS SINCE TWO DAYS AGO. 
          WELL, THERE'S AN UPDATE. 
          WELL, MR. I DIDN'T GET THAT. 
          DIDN'T GET IT. 
          NOT IN HERE. 
          WELL, WHAT I TELL YOU IS I HAVE TAKE YOUR RESPONSE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE CAN JUST RESPOND YOUR ARRIVAL. 
          I THINK IT HAS, IT DID NOT SAY WHO TO RESPOND. 
          FEEL FREE TO RESPOND. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          I'LL TAKE IT FROM YOU ALL TALKING. 
          SEE EMAIL, TEXT MESSAGE, WHATEVER'S MOST CONVENIENT. 
          WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PARKING IDENTIFIED FOR YOU. 
          CITY IDENTIFI. 
          CAN WE HAVE SOME UPDATED, UPDATED REFRESHMENTS OF THESE KIND OF ELEGANT ALL. 
          ONE MORE. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, MR. HE THUNDER. 
          BUT I DID WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT MESSAGE WHILE  AS OUR NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF RECREATION SERVICES, HE'S BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, 17 YEARS, SO HE'S NOT JUST READY, HE'S POSITIONED, HE'S PREPARED. 
          SO I'M EXCITED HE AT HIM. 
          SO I HOPE WILL REDIRECT ALL OF YOUR INQUIRIES FOR RECREATION TO MR. BAKER. 
          THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. 
          , YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY, MS. RO WITH AUTHORITY COMES PROBLEMS. RIGHT. 
          THAT JUST PART OF IT. 
          RIGHT? ALRIGHT, SO MOVING ON OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY, MS. RENEE. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT ONE. 
          THE SEASON. 
          RENEE JOHNSON . 
          SO I BUILT, WE ARE BUILDING A NEW TEAM IN PMO TO COME AND STAND UP HERE. 
          PLEASE. 
          WE'RE PROUD OF THIS TEAM. 
          YES. 
          SO THE PROMOTIONS OF COLLEGE  FAR LEFT HERE. 
          [03:25:01]
HE IS OUR NEW AREA MANAGER. 
          FOREST STREET, WHILE ARE VERY FAMILIAR, AS YOU RECALL DURING THE GOLF PROGRAM, UH, WHEN WE WERE DOING OUR, UH, UH, SHOWCASE, RIGHT? HE'S ONE OF THE, THAT MADE SURE THAT, UH, OUR GOLF COURSE, UH, NOW RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY. 
          SO HE HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO AREA MANAGER, FRED JOHNSON. 
          BRETT JOHNSON FOR LAST YEAR, THE SUPERINTENDENT. 
          HE WAS PART OF THAT. 
          FORESTRY NSTITUTE. 
          NEXT WE HAVE WITH CHRISTIE WEAVER. 
          SHE IS NEW TO US. 
          SHE COMES, UM, THE HAS 28 YEARS, UH, WITH THE, UH, VARIOUS FROM THE, THE METRO. 
          UH, WE'VE KNOWN HER. 
          SHE'S PARTICIPATED IN TASK, REALLY BEEN A LEADER IN ORGANIZATIONAL, UH, UH, EVENTS. 
          , UH, OUT IN, IN THE METRO. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HER. 
          SHE'S OUR SUPERINTENDENT. 
          AND SO SHE'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOWNTOWN AND SOUTHERN CIRCUIT. 
          WE CALL THREE AND FOUR. 
          UH, SO SHE'S WORKING WITH JOSE SOTO, THAT TEAM JOHNNY, JOSEPH, UM, CHRIS STEELE. 
          UM, AND OF COURSE SHE WORK WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS, UH, AMY AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HER ON BOARD. 
          CHRISTIE, WE OKAY, SO GUY, YEAH. 
          . 
          AND NEXT WE HAVE ANGELICA RODRIGUEZ. 
          SHE HAS ABOUT 18, 19, UH, WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS. 
          OUR IT PROJECT HAD DEALT CONTRACT COMPLIANCE, UH, APPROVED OUR CONTRACT, MY MANAGER PROGRAM. 
          SHE'S BEEN AMAZING. 
          SO NOW DISTRICT FIVE, NORTHWEST DALLAS. 
          SO, UM, JULIE IN THAT FOR A WHILE, UH, BEFORE WE HIRED HER FRESH AIR JOB PROFESSIONAL. 
          SO WE ARE PROGRAM AS WELL AS OUR SERIES, UH, THAT WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP. 
          UH, AND SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THIS TEAM. 
          I THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO AN AMAZING JOB. 
          SURE. 
          IF THEY GIVE OUR BOARD MEMBERS, UH, THEY THANK YOU MR. DICKEY. 
          AND WE WAS ABLE TO POACH TWO FOLKS FROM OTHER PARK SYSTEMS. OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT? I SAID WE WERE SAVING TO POACH RECRUIT WHERE? YOU KNOW ME WELL, WE HAVE MISS, MISS POER. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE MS. WEAVER AND THEY'RE FROM OTHER CITIES. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING NOW FOR TALENT ALL ACROSS THE METROPLEX AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL, UH, OUR NEXT BOARD, OUR NEXT BOARD MEETING. 
          THURSDAY. 
          YEAH, AUGUST 24TH, 4 25 AT 10:00 AM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING ALL THE BUSINESS. 
          I KNOW JOINED THE BOARD MEETING AT 2:00 PM UH.
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