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[Community Police Oversight Board on August 12, 2025]
THE MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD TO ORDER AT 5 39.I AM VICE CHAIR OZZIE SMITH, SERVING AS ACTING CHAIRMAN FOR TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS.
THIS IS A REGULARLY SCHEDULED, UH, PUBLIC MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
I WILL BEGIN BY CONDUCTING THE ROLL CALL TO CONFIRM A QUORUM IS PRESENT.
EACH BOARD MEMBER HERE TONIGHT WAS NOMINATED AND APPROVED BY THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO REPRESENT THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS WHEN YOUR DISTRICT IS CALLED, PLEASE CONFIRM YOUR PRESENCE.
DISTRICT TWO, JONATHAN MAPLES.
VICTOR LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT.
AND DISTRICT ONE OZZIE SMITH PRESENT.
UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU JOINING IN PERSON AND ONLINE, PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS AN OFFICIAL MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IN ACCORDANCE TO, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE DESIGNED TO FOSTER OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY STAKEHOLDERS, WHILE ENSURING THAT THE BOARD'S BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND RESPECTFULLY.
TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL, DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
ALL ATTENDEES MUST REMAIN SEATED UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED ANYONE CAUSING A DISRUPTION WILL RECEIVE ONE.
CONTINUED DISRUPTIVE CON CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN THE REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING.
UH, THE BOARD IS COMMITTED TO ACCESSIBILITY.
IF YOU REQUIRE TRANSLATION SERVICES, SIGN LANGUAGE, INTERPRETERS, OR OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS, UH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT OUR OFFICE AT LEAST 72 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
THE PURPOSE OF THE CPOB, THE MISSION, UH, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CIVILIAN REVIEW, UH, BOARD, IS TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN TRUST BY ENSURING THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT INVOLVING DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL ARE REVIEWED FAIRLY TRANSPARENTLY AND THOROUGHLY.
THE BOARD IS SUPPORTED BY THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, WHICH PROVIDES LOGISTICAL AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP US FULFILL THIS MISSION AND MAINTAIN ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE COMPLAINT PROCESS.
AT THIS PHASE OF OUR MEETING, WE ARE HAVING A PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
OUR MEETINGS USUALLY RUN ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO FOUR HOURS.
NATURALLY, UH, WE HAVE OVER 20, UH, RESIDENTS OR CITIZENS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO WORK THROUGH THEM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
I ASK THAT YOU WORK WITH THE OFFICE STAFF TO BE READY TO SPEAK WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN AND TO END YOUR COMMENTS.
PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT WE STILL HAVE A LONG MEETING AFTER THIS.
SO ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO ME AS THE CHAIR AND AS I SAID EARLIER, BE RESPECTFUL AND MAINTAINED, UH, UH, DECORUM.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BUZZER, UM, FOR THIS MEETING THAT WILL ALERT YOU WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
PLEASE STOP WHEN THE BUZZER RINGS AND THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE READY THAT I CALL, UH, TO STEP TO THE MIC.
WHEN YOU GET TO THE, UH, PODIUM, JUST MAKE SURE YOU PRESS THE BUTTON ON THE MIC, UM, THERE IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU AND THOSE ONLINE CAN HEAR YOU AS WELL.
SO OUR FIRST, UH, PUBLIC, UH, SPEAKER WILL BE, UH, DOLORES PHILLIPS, AND FOLLOWING MRS. PHILLIPS WILL BE NEAR ANN WILLIAMS. I DID SEND YOU DOLORES PHILLIPS IS MY NAME.
I DID SEND YOU 9 1 1 CALLS FROM 2009 AND 2011 PROVEN A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP.
THE REASON I WAS AT THE OCTOBER 25TH, 2013 MEETING IS BECAUSE OF THE ERASE CALLS BACK IN 2009.
WHEN I WAS AT THE OPEN MIC MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY, I WAS APPROACHED BY SECURITY IN OPEN RECORDS DEPARTMENT WHO SAID, SOMEONE REPORTED THAT I WENT
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THROUGH THE BACK OF THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE TO GET TO OPEN RECORDS.NO ONE BY ACCIDENT THOUGHT THAT THEY SAW ME GO BEHIND THE DESK OR THE OFFICE OF THE CITY SECRETARY.
TO UNDERSTAND HOW FABRICATIONS AND FALSIFIED RECORDS AND FILES ARE BUILT IS YOU HAVE A OFFICER WHO HAVE TO RESPOND AS SECURITY, AND THEY HAVE TO REPORT AT THE END OF THE DAY THEIR FINAL REPORT FOR THE THE DAY.
AND THEY'LL SAY, OH, WE HAD A MISCOMMUNICATION.
THEY THOUGHT THEY SAW HER GO IN THE BACK, BUT SHE REALLY DID NEST THE BUILDING IN THE ONGOING BUILDING OF FABRICATIONS.
THE FABRICATED POLICE REPORT, DPD NUMBER 0 2 7 3 2 9 1 DASH EIGHT WAS FABRICATED WITH THE INTENT TO CAUSE HARM.
MY DAD CRIED FOR ME NOT TO LEAVE HIM OVER AT THE REHABILITATION WELLNESS CENTER OF DALLAS.
THEY HAD DEEMED HIM AN INCAPACITATED ELDER.
HOW DO YOU DEEM SOMEONE AN INCAPACITATED ELDER AND DRIVE THEM BACK 50 MILES AWAY FROM THEIR CARETAKER TO FEND FOR HIMSELF? DALLAS MAKES THOSE COUNTER CALLS.
LISTEN TO ME, AND I'M SAYING THIS HUMBLY, IT'S NOT A JOKE.
HAVE YOU EVER HAD YOUR MOM OR YOUR DAD CRY? I'M KNOCKING ON DOORS.
I HAD TWO FORMER POLICE CHIEFS WHO SAID THAT THEY SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
THANK YOU, MS. PHILLIPS, IN THE PAST.
NEXT, WE'LL HAVE IAN WILLIAMS, FOLLOWED BY REBECCA SHAPIRO.
WHY ARE WE, UH, WHY IS IT TWO MINUTES ALLOTTED INSTEAD OF THREE DUE TO THE NUMBER TO TRY TO FI GET THEM ALL DONE BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS? OKAY.
TYPICALLY IT'S FIVE AND WE DO, UM, THREE MINUTES EACH.
UM, AND MY NAME IS NI DON'T KNOW IF IT, IT, IT HAS AN N ON THERE.
BUT, UM, I SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT REGARDING A DETECTIVE IN THEIR COMRADES IN THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING UNIT, AS WELL AS I BELIEVE THE VICE OPS UNIT.
UM, I'M A SEX TRAFFICKING SURVIVOR, AND DUE TO THE CON, THE MISCONDUCT OF SEVERAL OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING UNITS AND OR I'M NOT SURE IF THEY COMBINED THEM OR IF THEY'RE SEPARATE STILL.
UM, THE VICE OPS UNITS, MY TRAFFICKING EXPERIENCE WAS MADE A LOT HARDER THAN IT HAD TO BE.
UM, IN THE MIDST OF MY ENGAGEMENTS WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS, THEY COMMITTED, THEY FALSIFIED REPORTS, THEY, UM, COMMITTED THEFT OF MY PROPERTY, AS IN THEY WOULD TAKE PROPERTY, SEIZE IT, QUOTE UNQUOTE, SEIZE IT, AND DIDN'T PUT IT INTO EVIDENCE.
UM, INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS BECAUSE I WOULDN'T TALK TO THEM ABOUT MY SITUATION IN DEPTH.
THEY WOULD DO THINGS LIKE TAKE MY PROPERTY, UM, WHICH IS REALLY COERCION.
THEY WOULD TRY TO MAKE ME TALK, TALK BY TAKING MY PROPERTY WHEN I WOULD EXERCISE MY RIGHT TO, UM, UM, MY FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT.
UM, THERE WERE DIFFERENT THINGS I CAN'T EXPLAIN IN SO MUCH DETAIL, BUT DUE TO THE MISCONDUCT OF MANY, NOT ALL, BUT SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS IN THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND VICE OPS UNITS, I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY SEX TRAFFICKING SURVIVOR THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO WORSE SITUATIONS THAN IT ALREADY WAS, THAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I I, I GET EMOTIONAL BECAUSE I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.
MY, MY LIFE WAS ALREADY HARD ENOUGH, AND MY QUESTION IS, I SUBMITTED MY COMPLAINT.
UM, THE ISSUES HAPPENED YEARS AGO, SO THEY TOLD ME I DID IT TOO LATE.
MY QUESTION IS, AT ONE POINT, DOES POLICY SUPERSEDE THE WELLBEING OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING SURVIVORS AND VICTIMS? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
THERE IS MULTIPLE, IF NOT MANY INDIVIDUALS IN THESE UNITS THAT ARE CORRUPT AND THEY NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED.
THANK YOU, MRS. WILLIAMS. NEXT WE HAVE REBECCA SHAPIRO, FOLLOWED BY DANIELLE LEMI.
UH, DO WE HAVE DANIELLE LEMI VIRTUALLY? OKAY.
I DON'T, NO SIGNAL THAT WE HAVE, UH, MS. LEMI VIRTUALLY.
YES, MS. LET ME, UH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
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CAN Y'ALL SEE ME? NOT YET.I'M A COLLEGE INSTRUCTOR, POLITICAL SCIENTIST AND NONPROFIT CONSULTANT SPECIALIZING IN CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
I URGE YOU TO REJECT COOPERATION WITH ICE.
ALL OF US DESERVE THE FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT WHERE WE LIVE, AND EVERY MINUTE THAT YOU SPEND DEBATING THIS GIVES THE PRESIDENT PERMISSION TO TAKE THAT FREEDOM AWAY.
JUST LIKE HOW THIS COUNTRY LETS SOUTHERN SLAVE OWNERS RECAPTURE AND SLAVE BLACK PEOPLE WHO ESCAPE TO THE NORTH, EVEN ENSLAVING FREE BLACK PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS.
YOUR OFFICE, DPD AND EVEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MIGHT NOT BE PERSONALLY AFFECTED BY ICE DETENTIONS, BUT ICE MIGHT KIDNAP YOUR VISIBLY NON-WHITE CHILDREN.
THEY MIGHT SNATCH THEM AT SCHOOL IN FRONT OF ALL THEIR FRIENDS.
ICE MIGHT PUT YOUR VISIBLY NON-WHITE PARENT IN A CAGE.
THEY MIGHT SNATCH THEM FROM THE PARKING LOT AT THE GROCERY STORE, AND THEIR SUFFERING WILL BE DUE TO THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO I URGE YOU IN ALL COLLABORATION BETWEEN DPD AND ICE, PUBLICLY DISCLOSE ALL INTERACTIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS WITH ICE AND ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY IN ALL IMMIGRATION RELATED INCIDENTS.
NEXT WE HAVE KATHY COCHRAN FOLLOW THE FOLLOWED BY SAM WILLIAMS. DO I PUSH THIS BUTTON AGAIN? YES, PLEASE.
UM, MY NAME IS KATHY JILL COCHRAN, AND I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE VALUES LISTED ON THE CITY OF DALLAS WEBSITE AND THE ACTIONS THAT YOU TAKE IN THIS BUILDING THAT AFFECT, AFFECT THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS.
YOU SAY DALLAS STANDS FOR EMPATHY, ETHICS, EXCELLENCE, ENGAGEMENT AND EQUITY.
THE VALUES ARE NOT DECORATIONS ON A WEBPAGE.
THEY'RE COMMITMENTS YOU EITHER LIVE OUT OR BETRAY, AND IT MATTERS MORE WHAT YOU DO THAN WHAT YOU SAY.
REMEMBER THE SAYING, YOU LEARN FROM YOUR MOM OR IN CHURCH, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
WELL, LAST THURSDAY, I WENT TO IMMIGRATION COURT TO SEMA WITH MY OWN EYES WHAT ICE IS DOING IN OUR CITY.
WITHIN MINUTES, I SAW ICE AGENTS NOT PROTECTING ANYONE, BUT LYING IN WAIT FOR THEIR PREY.
I WATCHED HIM THROW A MAN AGAINST THE WALL AND SLAM HIM TO THE FLOOR AS HE TURNED THE CORNER TOWARD THE ELEVATOR.
THERE WERE NO WORDS SPOKEN TO HIM, JUST VIOLENCE.
HIS HEARING HAD JUST BEEN DISMISSED.
A CIVIL PROCESS, NOT A CRIMINAL ONE.
SHOWING UP TO YOUR HEARING SHOULD NOT MEAN WALKING INTO A TRAP.
WHETHER SOMEONE HAS A PAST RECORD OR NOT IS NOT THE POINT.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED THEIR TIME HAD CHARGES DROPPED, WERE NEVER CONVICTED, OR HAD NEVER COMMITTED A CRIME, ARE STILL BEING HUNTED IN COURTHOUSE, HALLWAYS, AND NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS OUR CITY IN SCHOOL, PARKING LOTS, GROCERY STORES AND HOME DEPOTS.
ISIS COURTHOUSE ARRESTS ARE NOT ABOUT SAFETY.
THEY ARE ABOUT FEAR AND QUOTAS.
AND WHEN WE ALLOW THAT, WE DESTROY TRUST, TRAUMATIZED FAMILIES, AND MAKE OUR WHOLE CITY LESS SAFE.
THE MAN ABDUCTED IN THE HALLWAY HAS TWO YOUNG CHILDREN, BOTH CITIZENS, ONE ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM, AND HE HAS THE SOLE PROVIDER FOR HIS HOUSEHOLD.
NOW, HIS KIDS ARE LIVING WITH TRAUMA.
YOU CANNOT CLAIM EMPATHY, ETHICS, OR EQUITY WHILE ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN ON YOUR WATCH.
THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVERY DALLAS EMPLOYEE, SHOULD BE HERE TO PROTECT ALL PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, NOT TO ACT AS AN EXTENSION OF A FEDERAL AGENCY THAT HUNTS OUR NEIGHBORS AND THRIVES ON FEAR AND DIVISION.
AND THAT IS WHY I CALL ON YOU TO ADOPT A WRITTEN POLICY THAT PROHIBITS ALL VOLUNTARY COOPERATION WITH ICE WITHOUT A JUDICIAL WARRANT, REJECTS DETAINER REQUEST WITHOUT A WARRANT, UM, BAN SHARING NON-PUBLIC INFORMATION WITH ICE, WITHOUT LEGAL COMPULSION.
HEY, WE'LL REMEMBER YOUR ANSWER, SO THERE WE GO.
NEXT WE HAVE SAM WILLIAMS, FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER WALKER.
HELLO, MY NAME IS SAM WILLIAMS AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE.
I'M HERE TO ASK FOR TRANSPARENCY AND REPORTING OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH ICE FIRST EMERGENCY POINTS OF CONTACT, AND FAMILY MEMBERS MUST BE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFIED IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN DETAINED BY ICE.
IF YOUR LOVED ONE HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ICE, YOU DESERVE TO KNOW IMMEDIATELY, NOT DAYS AFTER.
SECOND, WE MUST END DPD AND ICE'S.
COLLABORATION, LOOPHOLES AND AMBIGUITY.
WE HAVE RECEIVED NO CLEAR STATEMENTS FROM ANY DALLAS OFFICIAL, LET ALONE CHIEF OF POLICE COMO ON DPD POLICY AND REQUIREMENTS FOR JUDICIAL WARRANTS.
JUDICIAL WARRANTS MUST BE REQUIRED EVERY TIME WITH NO EXCEPTIONS.
LASTLY, ANY DPD INTERACTION WITH ICE MUST FULL STOP, BE REPORTED AND PUBLISHED, NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER POLICE INTERACTION IS TODAY.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND REPORTING SITE ALREADY EXISTS.
THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED AS A WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR POLICE FORCE IS SPENDING THEIR TIME.
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WE KNOW DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN WHAT FRANKLY FEELS LIKE A COORDINATED EFFORT OF TERROR BY OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.MANY ICE DETENTIONS OCCUR IN CONJUNCTION WITH OR SHORTLY AFTER TRAFFIC STOPS.
A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD HAS CITED A 40% DROP IN FOOD DRIVE GROCERY PICKUP DUE TO FEAR OF BEING DETAINED.
TO REITERATE, FEAR IS KEEPING PEOPLE FROM BEING FED IN YOUR CITY DUE DUE TO THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WITH CITY AND DPD POLICY, INCLUDING AMBIGUOUS STATEMENTS BY CHIEF CUOMO AND CITY MANAGER TOLBERT, WE HAVE HAD TO RESORT TO CALLING ON OUR FEDERAL ADMINISTRATIVES REPRESENTATIVES TO DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY RESULTING IN NATIONAL PRESS, WHICH CALLS INTO QUESTION DALLAS'S MORAL FIBER.
TODAY, CONGRESSMAN JOHNSON ASKED BARE MINIMUM QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT IS THE CRITERIA USED TO DETERMINE WHEN AND HOW DPD ENGAGES WITH ICE? DOES YOUR DEPARTMENT COLLECT OR SHARE IMMIGRATION STATUS INFORMATION DURING ROUTINE POLICY? WHAT IS THE DEPARTMENT'S PROCESS FOR ENSURING TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND FEDERAL PARTNERSHIPS? AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO STRONGLY REQUEST TRANSPARENCY AND COMPASSION FROM THIS BOARD WHEN IT COMES TO POSSIBLE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN ICE AND DPD, IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF POINTS OF CONTACT REQUIRED JUDICIAL WARRANTS, AND PUBLISH EVERY DPD INTERACTION WITH ICE ON DASHBOARDS.
THANK YOU, MR. WILLIAMS. UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, JENNIFER WALKER, FOLLOWED BY, UH, NOMI RIOS.
I HAVE A THREE MINUTE, BUT GREETINGS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I THINK I'M A SMART, WELL-INFORMED WOMAN, BUT I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DP D'S STANCE IS ON COOPERATING WITH ICE.
TO BE HONEST, I'D NEVER HEARD OF THIS COMMITTEE UNTIL ARTICLES CAME OUT ABOUT THE NEW POLICE CHIEF ATTENDING YOUR JUNE MEETING.
IT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION BECAUSE OF WHAT TRANSPIRED, OR I SHOULD SAY, DIDN'T TRANSPIRE.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BEEN THERE TO REMIND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE POLICE CHIEF THAT I AS A TAXPAYER PAY THEIR SALARY.
SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I'VE SAID THE EXACT SAME THING ABOUT IMMIGRATION.
WE'RE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR JOBS, AND WE WILL NOT BE SEARCHING FOR IMMIGRANTS.
WE HAVE NO SPECIAL PROGRAMS OR WE ARE SEARCHING FOR IMMIGRANTS.
HE TOLD FOX NEWS, IF WE COME IN CONTACT WITH ANYONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE STATUS, WE WILL CALL THE PROPER FEDERAL AGENCY AND LET THEM HANDLE IT.
THE POLICE CHIEF HAS STATED THAT HIS OFFICERS WILL HELP FEDERAL AGENTS AS LONG AS WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS LEGAL.
I WOULD LIKE HIS DEFINITION OF WHAT HE CONSIDERS LEGAL BECAUSE LEGALITY SEEMS TO BE A MOVING TARGET.
I WANT THIS BOARD TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND HAVE THEM ANSWERED.
I WANT, UM, THE DPD, THE CHIEF TO REFUSE ALL VOLUNTARY COOPERATION WITH ICE.
UM, I WANT HIM TO NOT HONOR THE DETAINER REQUEST, UM, UNLESS LEGALLY REQUIRED.
I DO NOT WANT PUBLIC INFORMATION SHARED WITH ICE.
THAT'S A VIOLATION, IN MY OPINION, A PUBLIC TRUST.
AND I WANT IT, UM, MADE CLEAR THAT DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS ARE HERE TO PROTECT NOT TO PROFILE OR DETAIN BASED ON IMMIGRATION STATUS.
THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS POSTED THEY HAVE REPEATEDLY SENT QUESTIONS TO THE DEPARTMENTS, UH, FOR POLICY ON INFORMATION SHARING THE NUMBER OF CASES WHERE OFFICERS HAVE ASSISTED ICE IN ANSWER, A DPD SPOKESMAN SAID THAT THE DEPARTMENT DOES NOT TRACK THESE SPECIFIC INSTANCES WHERE OFFICERS ASSIST AN OUTSIDE ANTY WRONG.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE NOEMI RIOS, FOLLOWED BY ALEX HELM.
I HAVE NEVER WON AN EMMY, NO EMMY, AND I'M A CHICANA ORGANIZER HERE IN DALLAS.
UM, AND WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU IS THE SAME THING THAT EVERYBODY THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY IS TELLING YOU, WHICH IS THAT THERE'S A LOOPHOLE.
THERE'S A LOOPHOLE THAT WE WANT CLOSED.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING RADICAL.
BELIEVE ME, I WISH I COULD COME HERE AND ASK YOU TO HELP US STOP ICE FROM OPERATING AT ALL IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A DELINEATION BETWEEN THE RESPONSIBILITIES YOU HAVE, THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT POLICE HAS, AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ICE HAS BEEN, UH, DESIGNATED.
MY QUESTION IS, DO THE POLICE KNOW THAT THERE'S A DELINEATION? BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN REPORTING TO GRASSROOTS ACTIVISTS LIKE MYSELF THROUGH
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OUR DMS, THAT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE BEING TAKEN TO JAIL FOR MINOR CRIMES AND THEN HELD UNTIL ICE COMES AND PICK THEM UP AFTER THEY'VE PAID THEIR BOND, AFTER THEY'VE PAID THEIR BOND.SO THERE'S CLEARLY A, A LOOPHOLE THAT IS BEING EXPLOITED PROBABLY BY A FEW BAD APPLES, RIGHT? AND THOSE BAD APPLES ARE OPERATING NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE THERE'S A POLICY, BUT BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A POLICY THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT.
NOW, WHEN YOU TELL ME THAT THERE'S A $50,000 SIGN ON BONUS STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS AND AN EXTRA $200 PER HEAD THAT TRICIA MCLAUGHLIN PROMISED ICE AGENTS LAST WEEK, $200 PER HEAD, THAT GETS EXPEDITED WITHIN A WEEK.
I'M THINKING THAT THERE'S PROBABLY PROBABLY SOME DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS WITH SOME KIND OF COMMISSION ARRANGEMENT WITH ICE AGENTS HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THAT SHOULD NOT EXIST.
SO I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO CONTINUE TO PRESS.
I KNOW YOU ALL DID ATTEMPT TO GET ANSWERS, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, UM, PLAYED LEGAL PROCEDURAL GAMES TO STOP IT.
WE, WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE GAMES.
WE WANT THE LOOPHOLE CLOSED TODAY.
NEXT WE HAVE ALEX HELM, FOLLOWED BY ANTHONY.
I, PHOEBE, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I MISPRONOUNCE THAT TESTING.
MY NAME IS ALEX HELM, UH, AND I'M AN ANTHROPOLOGY STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON.
HOWEVER, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE CITIES AND SUBURBS IN AND AROUND DALLAS.
IMMIGRANTS ARE AT THE CORE OF OUR COMMUNITIES HERE IN THE DALLAS METROPLEX.
THEY ARE TEACHERS, WORKERS, FIRST AID RESPONDERS, CIVIC LEADERS, PROFESSORS, DOCTORS, ACADEMICS, AND SO, SO MUCH MORE.
THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON IS ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE UNIVERSITIES IN THE COUNTRY AT UTA AND ALL OVER THE DALLAS METROPLEX, I HAVE MET SOME OF THE BRIGHTEST MINDS AND FORM THE DEEPEST FRIENDSHIPS WITH STUDENTS WHO ARE IMMIGRANTS OR FROM IMMIGRANT FAMILIES.
IMMIGRANTS COME TO AMERICA HOPING TO TELL THE STORY, TELL THAT, TELL A STORY, AND TO LIVE THEIR TRUTH IN A LAND OF BOUNDLESS OPPORTUNITY.
HOWEVER, TELLING THAT STORY AND LIVING THAT TRUTH REQUIRES BOTH SAFETY AND SECURITY.
AND FOR THE PAST YEAR, DALLAS COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN MET WITH DIRECT THREATS TO BOTH.
THE COMMUNITY HAS THREE SIMPLE DEMANDS TO BETTER PROMOTE SECURITY AND MUTUAL AWARENESS.
ONE, THAT THERE ARE D, NO DPD ICE LOOPHOLES AND A JUDICIAL WARRANT IS REQUIRED TO MAKE AN ARREST.
IN OTHER WORDS, ARRESTS SHOULD NOT MERELY BE UP TO OFFICER DISCRETION.
TWO, THAT FAMILIES ARE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFIED WHEN SOMEONE IS DETAINED OR CON OR CONTACTED BY ICE.
AND THREE, THAT THERE ARE REAL TIME PUBLIC ALERTS PUT OUT WHEN DPD ASSISTS ICE, AND THAT THESE INSTANCES ARE LOGGED LIKE ANY OTHER POLICE PHONE CALL, EVERYONE DESERVES THE RIGHT TO DREAM, TO HOPE, TO PLAN FOR A FUTURE THAT IS FILLED WITH ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES.
INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, AND COMMUNITIES HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHEN AND HOW THEIR LIVES COULD BE SUDDENLY CHANGED.
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH REALIZATION THAT ANYONE THEY KNOW OR LOVE COULD BE TAKEN AWAY AT ANY MOMENT FOR ANY REASON.
WE ALL ONCE CAME TO THIS COUNTRY AS IMMIGRANTS.
LET US CONFER THE SAME ADMIRATION AND RESPECT WE WOULD WANT FOR OUR ANCESTORS TO TODAY'S IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES.
WELCOME TO ALL, NOT JUST TO THE FEW.
NEXT WE WILL HAVE, UH, ANTHONY AND FOLLOWED BY, UH, REEN KHAN VIRTUALLY.
AND CORRECT ME ON THE, YOUR, IT IS A PRETTY GOOD PRONUNCIATION.
I'LL JUST GET STRAIGHT TO, YOU COULD START MY TIME.
I DIDN'T PREPARE ANY STATEMENT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS NO BUSINESS COLLABORATING WITH IMMIGRATIONS CUSTOM ENFORCEMENT.
BUT REALLY WHAT THEY ARE, BODY SNATCHERS, THEY'RE SNATCHING BODIES OFF THE STREET IN CITIES, ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND THEY'RE DOING THIS ON THE, UH, BASIS OF COLOR, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT FINDING SWEDISH PEOPLE OR, UH, PEOPLE FROM THE NETHERLANDS TO GRAB HERE.
OR DO WE BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE NO EUROPEANS WHO HAVE OVERSTAYED THEIR WELCOME? NO.
THEY ARE PRECISELY TARGETING PEOPLE ON THE BASIS OF RACE, HOW THEY APPEAR, AND THEN FINDING OUT LATER, OH, THIS PERSON WASN'T A CITIZEN, WHO THEY, THERE'S NO CONCERN FOR THE HUMANITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING TARGETED AND YOU, AND WE SHOULD NOT BE COMPLICIT BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT NORMAL TIMES.
THIS IS NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL.
ALL RIGHT? YOU ARE STAKING YOUR REPUTATIONS AND YOUR LIVELIHOOD AND YOUR FAMILY'S REPUTATIONS RIGHT NOW.
AND YOU SHOULD FEEL THE WEIGHT OF THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE BEING SENT TO EL SALVADOR IN FREAKING KENYA OR WHEREVER ON THE, ON THE SAY SO OF DONALD TRUMP.
IS THAT REALLY HOW YOU WANT TO GO DOWN? IS I WAS FOLLOWING THE WORDS OF DONALD TRUMP.
YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED IF, IF YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT.
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THANK YOU.NEXT, WE HAVE VIRTUALLY, UH, REEN KHAN, FOLLOWED BY JAMAR JEFFERSON.
LAMAR JEFFERSON, VIRTUALLY C RIN EDMONDSON VIRTUAL.
NEXT, WE'LL GO TO ISABEL ROSS SIGNAL ISABELLE.
OKAY, WE'LL KEEP GOING DOWN TAYLOR JONES.
AND FOLLOW, UH, FOLLOWING, UH, MS. JONES IS ZALE ALVAREZ.
UM, BEFORE YOU GET GOING, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, DISTRICT 14, UH, BOARD MEMBER BRANDON FRIEDMAN IS PRESENT, AND TIMER WILL START WHEN YOU BEGIN.
UNTIL RECENTLY, I HAD NEVER STEPPED FOOT INSIDE THE COURTHOUSE TO SEE HOW ICE OPERATES.
I WENT FOR THE TRUTH, NOT RUMOR, NOT SECONDHAND MOTION.
THE MOMENT I STEPPED OFF THE ELEVATOR, I SAW SEVERAL ICE AGENTS.
THEY SAW ME TOO AND TOOK MY PICTURE, INTIMIDATION, PROFILING.
LESS THAN 30 MINUTES LATER, I WITNESSED THEM GRAB A LATINO MAN.
THEY DROVE HIM INTO THE FLOOR.
YET THEY TREATED HIM LIKE PREY IN PLAIN SIGHT IN A COURTHOUSE MEANT FOR JUSTICE AND DUE PROCESS.
IF THAT'S WHAT THEY DO IN PUBLIC, WHAT HAPPENS OUT OF YOU? HERE'S THE DANGER.
WHEN PEOPLE SEE BRUTALITY INSTEAD OF FAIRNESS, THEY STOP TRUSTING THE LAW.
THEY STOP CALLING THE POLICE, STOP REPORTING CLIENT CRIMES.
THAT DISTRUST DOESN'T JUST HARM THOSE TARGETED, IT MAKES THE WHOLE CITY LESS SAFE.
THIS ISN'T BAD LUCK OR A ONE TIME EVENT.
IT HAPPENS OFTEN OPENLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES.
BE THE WOLF OR BE THE SHEPHERD.
PRETEND YOU DON'T HEAR THEIR CRIES OR PROTECT THEM.
WE DEMAND THIS COUNCIL REQUIRE TRANSPARENCY WITHIN DPD AND THEIR COLLABORATION WITH ICE.
PROHIBIT VOLUNTARY ICE COOPERATION WITHOUT A JUDICIAL WARRANT, REJECT DETAINER REQUEST WITHOUT A WARRANT.
NON-PUBLIC INFORMATION WITHOUT LEGAL COMPULSION REQUIRE QUARTERLY ICE CONTACT REPORTS IMPOSE CONSEQUENCES FOR VIOLATIONS.
COURTROOMS SHOULD BE FOR HEARINGS, NOT HUNTING HISTORY WILL REMEMBER THE WOLVES AND THOSE WHO STOOD AGAINST THEM.
AS EZEKIEL 2230 SAYS, I LOOK FOR SOMEONE AMONG THEM WHO WOULD STAND IN THE GAP, BUT I FOUND NO ONE.
ZEAL ALVAREZ, FOLLOWED BY TED ELLIS.
MY NAME IS ASAI ALVAREZ, AND I'M HERE BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES SAFETY, NOT SECRECY.
YOU KNOW, THIS CAMPAIGN STARTED BECAUSE OF JONATHAN MAPLES REPORTING THAT HIS FOOD DRIVE STARTED TO SEE A DROP IN PARTICIPATION.
AND I'VE NOTICED THAT YOU ALL HAVE SENT LETTERS, AND I'M TRYING TO HELP OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN DEMAND A PUBLIC STATEMENT FROM HIM.
DALLAS POLICE LEADERSHIP SAYS THEY DON'T COLLABORATE WITH ICE.
AND WHEN WE ASKED FOR ANSWERS INSTEAD OF TRANSPARENCY, WE GOT NOTHING.
WE CAN'T STOP ICE FROM EXISTING.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO, WE CAN PASS A STRONG CITY ORDINANCE.
WE CAN ASK FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, PUBLIC LOGGING AND NOTIFICATION OF FAMILY MEMBERS BEING TAKEN FROM ICE.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW, WHEN, WHY, WHERE IT'S HAPPENING.
THANKS TO REPRESENTATIVE JULIE JOHNSON, THE CITY NOW HAS UNTIL AUGUST, UH, 21ST TO RESPOND.
THAT GIVES US LESS THAN TWO WEEKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY TAKE REAL ACTION TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY.
NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, NO ONE SHOULD BE A AFRAID TO CALL 9 1 1 IF THEY SEE A COP AND FEEL FEAR INSTEAD OF SAFETY.
BUT I'M HOPEFUL BECAUSE I'VE SEEN WHAT THIS COMMUNITY DOES AND TURN OUT BECAUSE IT MATTERS.
NOW WHETHER THEY'RE ONLINE WATCHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT, WE HAVE TO SPEAK OUT.
WE CAN'T GET THERE BY STAYING QUIET.
WE HAVE TO PROTECT DALLAS AND THE COMMUNITY.
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FOR BEING HERE.FOR ALL THE SPEAKERS HERE, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOW THOSE WHO ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK UP, THAT WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THEM IN ANY WAY.
UH, TED ELLIS, FOLLOWED BY LAURA KOT.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK TODAY ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE, MY THOUGHTS ON ICE AND, UH, THE TYPE OF WHAT ANY TYPE OF COLLABORATION WITH DPD.
I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT HERE AND OF D NINE CURRENTLY, AND I'M REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING, NO COLLABORATION WITH ICE WITHOUT ANY WARRANTS.
NO HONORING OF VOLUNTARY ICE DETAINER REQUEST, NO SHARING OF NON-PUBLIC INFORMATION WITH ICE UNLESS LEGALLY REQUIRED.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS DESERVE TO SEE CLEAR COMMUNICATION THAT DP D'S ROLE IS TO PROTECT ALL DALLAS RESIDENTS, NOT TO CARRY OUT THE WORK OF A FEDERAL AGENCY THAT THRIVES ON FEAR, INTIMIDATION, HATE, AND FAMILY SEPARATION.
I'M HORRIFIED WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THESE MASK ICE GOONS RANDOMLY GRABBING PEOPLE WITH BROWN SKIN FROM EVERY LOCATION IN OUR CITY.
AND SERIOUSLY, GUYS IN THE COURTROOM, THEY'RE GRABBING AND PREYING ON PEOPLE IN THE COURTROOM.
THE STATS CURRENTLY REFLECT THAT 75% OF THOSE ABDUCTED HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORD, AND A LARGE MAJORITY OF THE REST OF THOSE THAT DO HAVE VIOLATIONS OR RECORDS ARE FROM MINOR TRAFFIC INCIDENTS OR SOME OTHER MINOR OFFENSE.
I WOULD INVITE YOU GUYS TO RECALL THE HISTORY OF NAZI GERMANY AND HOW HITLER STARTED THESE ACTIONS MIRROR HISTORY, AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY.
IF YOU'RE NOT TERRIFIED BY NOW, YOU'RE JUST NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
THESE ACTIONS WILL CONTINUE UNLESS CITIES LIKE DALLAS AND OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS LIKE DALLAS STAND UP AND SIMPLY SAY, NO, STOP IT.
WE SHOULD GOVERN OUR CITY FROM THE BOTTOM UP, NOT FROM THE TOP DOWN.
THAT'S NOT THE WAY THIS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK, GUYS.
YOU KNOW, IF NOT, WE'RE JUST GONNA DEVOLVE INTO A FASCIST NATION.
PLEASE TAKE A STANCE TO STOP THESE ACTIONS AND MAKE SURE DPDD FOLLOWS ALL LETTER OF THE LAW.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE ALREADY ANNOUNCED LORD CHICOT, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO MR. JAMAR JEFFERSON, VIRTUALLY
FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS COUNTRY HAS COME TO ACCEPT THAT IT'S NORMAL FOR A GROUP OF HEAVILY ARMED MASKED MEN DRESSED IN NONDESCRIPT CLOTHING TO KIDNAP INDIVIDUALS, THROW THEM IN UNMARKED CARS AND VIRTUALLY DISAPPEAR THEM WITHOUT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT COMING TO THE AID OF VICTIMS, OR EVEN QUESTIONING THE AUTHORITY OR INTENTIONS OF THE PERPETRATOR.
THIS IS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
THIS IS HAPPENING TO PEOPLE WHO ATTEND OUR SCHOOLS, WHO WORK IN OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WHO LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND ATTEND OUR CHURCHES.
THESE ARE PEOPLE WITH LIVES AND FAMILIES, PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN OUR COUNTRY FOR DECADES WHO'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG, BUT TO DREAM THE SAME DREAMS AND LIVE THE SAME LIVES AS EVERY OTHER AMERICAN.
THEY'RE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS AND DO THE SAME RESPECT AND POLICE PROTECTION AS ANY PERSON WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS.
ICE IS USING INHUMANE TACTICS TO UNLAWFULLY ABDUCT AN AND INDEFINITELY DETAIN.
RESIDENTS OF DALLAS AND OUR CITY AND POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD NOT BE COMPLICIT.
THEREFORE, AS A RESIDENT OF DALLAS, I ASK THAT DPD LOG CALLS INVOLVING ASSISTANCE WITH ICE AND PROVIDE QUARTERLY PUBLIC REPORTING OF ALL ICE CONTACT.
ALSO DEMAND TO SEE JUDICIAL WARRANTS BEFORE PROVIDING ASSISTANCE TO ICE AND REJECT DETAINER REQUESTS WITH WITHOUT ONE.
FINALLY, DPD SHOULD IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY FAMILIES MEM FAMILY MEMBERS, WHEN SOMEONE HAS BEEN HARASSED OR DETAINED BY ICE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME AND OTHERS TO EXPRESS OUR OPINIONS.
NEXT WE'LL HAVE, UH, JAMAR JEFFERSON VIRTUALLY.
HOW YOU DOING? UH, ALL PRAISE TO THE MO HIGH YACHT.
ON JANUARY 28TH, 2020 FIFTH, I WAS ASSAULTED BODILY AND REMOVED FROM
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A PUBLIC EVENT IN FAIR PARK BY SERVING A LAWFUL FEDERAL SUMMONS AND COMPLAINTS ON CONGRESSMAN JASMINE CROCKETT.UH, I WAS IN THE PRESENCE OF NUMEROUS DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS WHO DID NOT INTERVENE, DID NOT STOP THE VIOLENCE.
WHO, WHO ACTUALLY IN THEIR REPORT IS SAYING THAT THEY VIOLATED NO LAWS, VIOLATED ANYTHING.
AND THESE ARE THE CRIMES THAT ARE COMMITTED.
18 US 15 0 1 18 US 2 42, TEXAS PENAL CODE 38 16, TEXAS PENAL CODE 20 20 0 1, WHICH IS ASSAULT, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT ON THE PROCESS SERVER, TEXAS PENA CODE OPPRESSION, TEXAS PENA CODE 37 10 TAMPERING WITH A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT BECAUSE TWICE, UH, THE OFFICERS GAVE ME JASMINE CROCKETT FOR A FAKE DIGNITARY SERVICES, WHICH IS NOT A LAWFUL, LAWFUL, UH, UH, UH, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND THEN THEY TURNED AROUND AND GAVE ME ANOTHER WRONGFUL ADDRESS TO A US AGENCY THAT DIGNITY SERVICES DOES NOT WORK FOR.
THEY'RE CLAIMING THAT NO CRIMES HAPPENED, NO POLICY HAPPENED, BUT YET THEY'RE SAYING I WAS A DISRUPTOR.
BUT I WAS THERE UNDER A LAWFUL MEANS.
I WAS NOT CITED FOR ANY TYPE OF DISTURBANCE.
THE GENERAL ORDER 3 0 1 0.00 DUTY TO END OF THE PAIN.
THIS IS DALLAS HOME GENERAL ORDER.
IT WAS VIOLATED BY THE POLICE OFFICER.
THIS
JUST BECAUSE MY SKIN TONE IS THE WAY THAT IT IS, DON'T MEAN THAT IF IMMIGRANTS CAN GET PEOPLE TO STAND UP FOR THEM AND GET JUSTICE, ERIC JOHNSON SHOULD NOT, AND JASMINE CROCKETT SHOULD NOT USE POLICE OFFICERS ATTACK POLITICAL OPERATIVES.
I'M ASKING THAT YOU FULLY INVESTIGATE INSTEAD OF VOTING, DO NOT VOTE NO, BECAUSE A CRIME HAPPENED.
I'M ASKING YOU TO REMEMBER WHAT MALCOLM X IS.
DO WE HAVE OTHER, UM, WELL, DEAR VIRTUAL N****R.
OKAY, UM, NEXT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST.
HELLO, MY NAME IS COLIN GRAHAM.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING NARP, THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE AGAINST RACIST AND POLITICAL REPRESSION.
WE ARE HERE TO ADDRESS VIOLENCE AGAINST THE COMMUNITY COMMITTED BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
THE MARGARET HUNT HILL BRIDGE IS A PUBLIC SPACE ENJOYED BY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE EVERY DAY.
IT IS A FREE PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MEET, GO ON DATES, EXERCISE, AND RELAX.
THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THIS BRIDGE ARE SERVED BY A GROUP OF VENDORS FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO HELP TO MAKE THE BRIDGE THE PLACE THAT IT IS.
THESE VENDORS, NEARLY ALL OF WHOM DEPEND COMPLETELY ON VENDING AT THE MARGARET HUNT HILL BRIDGE FOR THEIR LIVELIHOODS, ARE UNDER ATTACK BY OUR OWN DALLAS POLICE.
FOR NEARLY A YEAR, WE HAVE HAD REPORTS OF OFFICERS BRUTALIZING INNOCENT PEOPLE ON THIS BRIDGE, BEATING THEM, THREATENING THEM, SPRAYING WOMEN AND ELDERLY FOLKS WITH MACE.
NOT ONLY DO THESE OFFICERS BRUTALIZE THE VENDORS, BUT THEY WILL KICK THEM OFF THE BRIDGE AT RANDOM TIMES AND NOT ALLOW THE VENDORS TO TAKE THEIR WARES.
THIS IS AN ATTACK ON THEIR LIVELIHOODS, VIOLENCE AGAINST THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE A LIVING.
THESE PEOPLE SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR LIVING WITHOUT RISKING THEIR LIVES.
THIS CONTINUAL RITUAL OF VIOLENCE COMMITTED BY THE DALLAS POLICE IS LIFE THREATENING TO THESE PEOPLE WHOSE FAMILIES DEPEND ON THEIR WORK.
WHEN THEY ARE BEATEN, WHEN THEIR WARES ARE CONFISCATED, THEIR LIVES ARE PUT IN DANGER.
THESE ARE ELDERLY PEOPLE, DISENFRANCHISED PEOPLE UNABLE TO FIND EMPLOYMENT THROUGH TRADITIONAL MEANS DUE TO MYRIAD DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
THEY DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.
THE OVERSIGHT BOARD HAS A DUTY TO IMMEDIATELY ADDRESS THE VIOLENCE COMMITTED AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE BY THE DALLAS POLICE.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE LAMAR JEFFERSON, VIRTUALLY.
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OKAY.I THINK WE LOST MR. UH, JEFFERSON.
ANY OTHER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ON BEHALF OF THIS BOARD, FIRST I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, UM, I THANK ALL OF YOU FOR SHOWING UP.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND HEARING TO A LIMITED TIME.
UM, BUT YOU ALL GOT YOUR THOUGHTS IN, UM, I WANNA SAY THAT WE SEE YOU AND WE HEAR YOU, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR, UH, CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT.
SO THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING OUT.
NEXT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REST OF THE AGENDA, UH, OF THE, UH, POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD OF NEXT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 6TH, UH, 2025 SPECIAL CALL MEETING MINUTES.
I ASK THAT THE BOARD PLEASE REVIEW THE MINUTES INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS.
IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION? LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE, UH, MINUTES WITH NO CORRECTIONS.
UH, CAN I GET A SECOND, MR. ABEL? SECOND.
UH, NUMBER TWO IS THE APPROVAL OF OUR JUNE 10TH, 2025 REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
UM, ASK THAT YOU GUYS REVIEW THOSE AND IF SO, I'D LIKE TO, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 10TH, 20, 25 MINUTES.
CAN'T GET A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE JUNE 10TH MINUTES WITH NO CORRECTIONS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UM, IN RESPONSE TO THE RECENT VIOLENCE IN DEEP ELAM, UH, MAJOR ANTHONY GREER AND POLICY ANALYST SIERRA OSU WILL BRIEF US ON THE CRIME STATISTICS FROM JANUARY, UH, THROUGH JUNE, 2025 IN DEEP ELAM.
AND, UH, WE WILL ANSWER GENERAL, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE AREA.
SO AT THIS TIME, WE WELCOME MAJOR ANTHONY GREER AND POLICY ANALYST SIERRA OBSU.
DID WE LOSE MAJOR GREER? HE'S IN THE BATHROOM.
UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS SIERRA BASSI.
I AM THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE.
IN THIS BRIEFING MEMO, I'LL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW AND ANALYSIS OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ARREST ACTIVITY IN DEEP ELLUM FROM JANUARY, 2025 THROUGH JUNE, 2025, UTILIZING, UTILIZING DATA CATEGORIZED UNDER THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM OR THE N-I-B-R-S.
THIS REPORT OUTLINES TRENDS AND YEAR OVER YEAR COMPARISONS, WHICH HIGHLIGHT TWO DATA POINTS FOR EACH OFFENSE CATEGORY, THE COUNT DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS THE RAW NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE IN ARRESTS BETWEEN COMPARABLE PERIODS FROM YEAR TO DATE, 2025 VERSUS YEAR TO DATE 2024.
THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE IS THE RELATIVE INCREASE OR DECREASE OVER THE SAME PERIOD ILLUSTRATING THE RATE OF CHANGE.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE NUMBERS IN RED INDICATE AND A DECREASE, OR I'M SORRY, AN INCREASE, AND THE NUMBERS IN GREEN INDICATE A DECREASE.
THE CHART YOU SEE IS THE BREAKDOWN OF ARREST BY DEMOGRAPHICS FIX FOR CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A 100% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN JUNE, 2024 AND JUNE, 2025.
AND A 15 POINT 79% CHANGE DECREASE BETWEEN YEARS 2024 AND YEAR 2025 FOR CRIMES AGAINST A PERSON.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A 33 POINT 33% CHANGE DECREASE BETWEEN JUNE OF 2024 AND JUNE, 2025, AND A TWO POINT 17% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN YEAR 2024 AND 2025 FOR CRIMES AGAINST
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SOCIETY.THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A 4.7% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN JUNE OF 2024 AND JUNE OF 2025 AND A 96 POINT 59% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2024 AND 2025 FOR THE TOTAL OF CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY PERSONS AND SOCIETY.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A 12 POINT 68% CHANGE DECREASE BETWEEN THE YEARS JUNE OF 2024 AND JUNE OF 2025 AND A 9.28 TOTALS PERCENT CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN YEARS OF 2024 AND 2025.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THIS BREAKDOWN, IT SHOULD BE ATTACHED TO THIS MEMO.
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW YOU CAN HAVE, UM, PERCENT CHANGE OF 100% INCREASE BETWEEN JUNE OF A YEAR AND JUNE, JUNE OF THE NEXT YEAR WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, 60 15% DECREASE? I'M SORRY, WHICH, WHICH, WHICH ONE, WHICH CATEGORY IS THAT? I'M LOOKING AT THE CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY FIRST, BUT I'M NOTICING THE SAME THING IN ALL OF THESE.
YOU HAVE ON THE ONE HAND YOU SAY CHANGE BETWEEN JUNE, 2024 AND JUNE, 2025 OF 33.33%, FOR EXAMPLE.
AND YOU CAN SEE, SEE CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS.
BUT THEN YOU SAY A PERCENTAGE CHANGE BETWEEN 2024 AND 2025 IS TWO POINT 17% INCREASE.
HOW CAN YOU HAVE A DECREASE IN AN INCREASE AT THE SAME TIME? SO ONE OF THEM IS RELATING TO THE MONTH.
SO JUNE OF THIS YEAR AND JUNE OF LAST YEAR.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS RELATED TO THE YEAR, THE ENTIRE YEAR? CORRECT.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, IT DOES, BUT IT'S STILL A BIT CONFUSING.
BUT I, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FULL YEAR, WHICH IS ACTUALLY TWO, UH, ALL OF 2024, ALL OF 2025 AN INCREASE, WHEREAS BETWEEN JUNE OF 2024 AND JUNE OF 2025 WAS A DECREASE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, JUST A REMINDER BOARD TO MAKE SURE YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR DISTRICT BEFORE YOU SPEAK, SO WE HAVE IT ON THE RECORD.
THAT WAS JUDGE LANDER DISTRICT EIGHT SPEAKING.
JONATHAN MAPLES, UH, DISTRICT TWO.
UM, SO DEEP EL FALLS INTO MY DISTRICT, AND AS I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, I, I, I STILL SEE THE GLARING THING AS IT RELATES TO ARRESTS THAT I SEE IN THE OVERALL OVERALL ARREST, UM, NUMBERS FOR THE WHOLE CITY.
AND THE GLARING PART ABOUT THIS IS, IS MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING ARRESTED LOOK LIKE ME.
SO IT MAKES ME QUESTION MYSELF INTERNALLY AS TO HOW GOOD OF A JOB AM I DOING TO REACH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND, AND IF I'M CORRECT, UM, DID, DID, DID WE GIVE A BREAKDOWN OR DID WE GET A BREAKDOWN OF THE AVERAGE AGE OF THOSE WHO WERE ARRESTED? I WAS NOT PROVIDED WITH THAT INFORMATION.
BUT I, I, I THINK, I THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF OF THOSE WHO ARE ARRESTED ARE, ARE YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND IF 322 ARE ARRESTED AND 266 ARE BLACK AND BROWN, I THINK THAT AS A BLACK MAN IN THIS CITY, I, I'LL JUST BE OPEN AND HONEST.
I'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MEETING THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE, BECAUSE I DON'T SIT ON THIS BOARD JUST TO WATCH THE GOOD AND BAD OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK WE SIT ON THIS BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE THROUGHOUT THE CITY
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IN HELPING WITH CERTAIN THINGS LIKE CRIME, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND IF ANY PART OF THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH ANYTHING AS IT RELATES TO CRIME SPIKES, WE ALL SHOULD BE CONCERNED BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT INVOLVES ALL OF US AS IT RELATES TO TAKING CARE OF OUR CITY.I WANT TO, I WANT TO THANK YOU, SIERRA.
I WANNA THANK YOU DIRECTOR FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION AND SOMETIMES GOOD INFORMATION HURTS WHEN YOU READ IT.
AND RIGHT NOW, THIS REALLY HURTS ME BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE GOTTA DO A BETTER JOB.
AND THIS ISN'T ALL ON THE DOWS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS ISN'T ALL ON THE SHOP OWNERS IN DEEP EL THIS IS ALL ON ALL OF US BECAUSE THESE ARE MOSTLY YOUNG PEOPLE DOWN THERE HANGING OUT, COMMITTING CRIMES.
AND WHEN I SAY COMMITTING CRIMES, I MEAN CRIMES WHERE THERE ARE GUNS INVOLVED.
SO I, I WILL DO WHAT I CAN TO SEE, UM, HOW WE CAN IMPROVE ON THIS.
I WILL TALK TO MY COUNCILMAN BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT TWO IS WHAT I REPRESENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS ONLINE OR PRESENT? JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT.
IS THERE A WAY, UM, SIERRA OR, UH, MAJOR FOR US TO GET A BREAKDOWN OF THE AGES OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED? WE CAN GET THAT AGE, UM, THAT SPREADSHEET FOR YOU IF YOU NEED THAT.
I WOULD REQUEST THAT PARTICULARLY FOR WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THIS DEEP EL SINCE THAT'S HISTORICAL NOW, UH, YOU WANT THAT SAME TIME PERIOD YES.
'CAUSE I AGREE, UM, WITH, UH, BROTHER MAPLES, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW WHO WE ARE ADDRESSING, KNOW WHO IT IS WE'RE TALKING TO, NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THANK YOU.
AND I'LL JUST SECOND BOTH OF NAME AND DISTRICT PLEASE.
JENNY KING, DISTRICT 10 AND IOWA SECOND OR THIRD, WHAT YOU ALL JUST SAID.
I THINK WE DO KNOW, NEED TO KNOW WHO WE'RE LOOKING AT.
THESE NUMBERS ARE QUITE DIFFERENT, UM, WHEN YOU BREAK 'EM DOWN, AND IT SEEMS EVERY MONTH WE LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND WE SAY, HOW CAN THIS BE? AND SO WHAT IS THE BIGGER ISSUE? AND IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S, IT FALLS ON ALL OF OUR SHOULDERS.
SO I'M JUST PONTIFICATING RIGHT NOW THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE AS A, A CITY TO REACH THESE KIDS BEFORE THEY MAKE A BAD CHOICE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEIR LIFE TRAJECTORY CHANGES AND PROBABLY FOR THE WORSE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S A, UM, ONGOING ISSUE.
AND, AND THESE NUMBERS NEED TO CHANGE.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S A LONGER TERM THING.
AND I'M, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
ANY OTHERS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, CHONGA HIGGINS, DISTRICT THREE, UM, FROM MAJOR GR UM, DO, DOES DPD EVER LIKE, LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS IN RELATION TO OTHER CITIES AND LIKE AREAS LIKE DEEP ISLAND, LIKE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS THAT LIKE, HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE POTENTIALLY A LOT OF CRIME AND HAVE POPULATIONS SIMILAR SIZE? I, I JUST WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE LIKE HOW DALLAS STACKS UP AGAINST LIKE, SOME OF THESE OTHER PLACES.
I'M ONE, I'M NOT AT REQUESTING THAT INFORMATION.
I'M JUST ASKING DO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW IF THEY, THEY LOOK AT STUFF LIKE THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
WE ABSOLUTELY LOOK FOR, UH, BECAUSE OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO GET THE BEST POLICY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND UNDERSTAND THIS, THAT, THAT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NOT A PERFECT PLACE.
WE CAN REACH OUT TO OTHER AREAS OF THIS, THE NATION THAT HAVE SIMILAR, UM, UH, ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.
AND IF THEIR POLICY IS BETTER, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GROW ON THAT.
AND SO WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR BETTER POLICIES, THINGS WE CAN DO BETTER AS WE GO.
AND THAT, THAT'S A, A GOAL THAT'S ALWAYS MOVING.
SO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE YOUR EAR TO THE GROUND AND KEEP LOOKING.
SO, UH, WE DO THAT OFTEN AND, AND IN MANY AREAS OF, UH, OF OUR DEPARTMENT.
UH, ARE THE NUMBERS, LIKE THE CRIME NUMBERS COMPARABLE TO AREAS THAT HAVE ENTERTAINMENT DIS DISTRICTS WITH POPULATIONS? SAME SIDE? WELL, NOW YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T GO GET INTO THE NUMBERS.
I I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF, IF, IF, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE DOING YOUR RESEARCH THAT COMES INTO PLAY,
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YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE.BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT THE FACT THAT WE DO LOOK FOR OTHER AREAS TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, OTHER CITIES THAT ARE COMPARABLE, YEAH, WE VERY WELL DO THAT.
UM, NEXT, UH, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION REPORT.
UH, BEFORE I LET YOU BEGIN, UM, WE HEAR THAT YOU'RE LEAVING US, SO WE WANT TO CONGRATULATE MAJOR GREER ON HIS PROMOTION, UH, TO CHIEF OF STAFF.
AND, UH, AND ALSO I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA INTRODUCE, UH, YOUR REPLACEMENT, BUT I JUST WANNA PERSONALLY SAY THANK YOU, UH, FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE, UM, IN GETTING INFORMATION TO THE BOARD.
UM, SINCE YOU'VE STEPPED INTO THIS ROLE, UM, YOU'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN EDUCATING US, GETTING US ACCESS TO TRAINING, BEING VERY DIRECT WITH YOUR RESPONSES.
AND SO I KNOW, UM, I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT I THINK I SPEAK FOR MANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE SINCE YOU'VE STEPPED INTO THIS ROLE, UM, FOR IAD SUPPORT.
UM, WITH THAT, UM, BEFORE YOU GO, I KNOW THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE MEMBERS THAT PROBABLY WANNA ALSO, UH, GIVE, SO I JUST LET EVERYONE, JUST BRIEFLY, IF YOU WANNA JUST SAY A COUPLE THINGS, UH, TO MAJOR GUER, UM, FEEL FREE, JUST JUMP IN.
I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE, I'M GONNA JUMP IN JENNY KING AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT'S WHY WE WORK SO CLOSELY WITH YOU.
AND WHAT I'VE LEARNED FROM YOU IS THAT IS REALLY AT THE HEART OF WHAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS IS ABOUT AND ALL THE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW IT IS AN IMPERFECT PLACE BECAUSE NO PLACE IS PERFECT, BUT I FEEL, UM, LIKE I'VE LEARNED A LOT MORE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING AN OPEN DOOR POLICY.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL HAVE OFFERED US TRAINING SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THE STRESSES THAT OUR OFFICERS GO THROUGH ON A DAILY BASIS.
AND IT HELPS ME JUST UNDERSTAND OUR CITY BETTER.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR YOUR NEW PROMOTION.
I'M SAD THAT YOU'RE LEAVING US, BUT I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE US IN GOOD HANDS.
JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT MAJOR.
UH, I HAVE ONLY BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR A SHORT PERIOD, BUT I HAVE NOTED THAT BY YOUR PRESENCE AND BY YOUR PARTICIPATION, YOU HAVE MADE THE DPD MUCH MORE ACCOUNTABLE TO THIS BOARD AND THIS BOARD IN, UH, IN, UH, RETROSPECT ALSO MORE ACCOUNTABLE TO THIS COMMUNITY.
I THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR WHAT I HAVE SEEN YOU DO.
YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE SOME VERY BIG SHOES TO BE FILLED, AND I'M LOOKING FOR THE FILLER.
UM, I'VE REALLY RESPECTED WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME OVER TO DD D'S HEADQUARTERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU'VE DONE.
YOU'VE MADE, UM, THE HEAD OF IAD POSITION ONE THAT IS TO BE EMULATED.
D WADSWORTH, DISTRICT 12, MAJOR GREER.
YOU EXEMPLIFY THE VERY FINEST OF DPD.
AND IT HAS BEEN MY HONOR TO WORK WITH YOU IN MY SIX YEARS ON THIS BOARD BY FAR.
YOU HAVE BEEN MY GREATEST HONOR.
WE ARE AT A LOSS FOR WORDS BECAUSE IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, WE HAVE NO RESPONSE FROM DPD UNTIL YOU CAME IN THE SHINING LIGHT, THE IN THE NIGHT IN SHINE, SHINING ARMOR.
AND HE'S GOING TO TRY TO FILL YOUR SHOES, WHICH I THINK BELIEVE IS IMPOSSIBLE.
WELL, LISTEN, I WANT TO, I, I WOULD JUST WANT TO HAVE A FEW WORDS.
I'M, I'D BE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH IF I TOLD YOU GUYS I WASN'T, UH, KINDA NOT REAL.
UM, KINDA APPREHENSIVE ABOUT THE BOARD WHEN I FIRST TOOK ON THE BOARD AND UNDERSTANDING, STEPPING INTO THIS NEW ROLE.
BUT THE ONE THING THAT BECAME CLEAR, JUST RIGHT OFF THE BAT WAS THAT, THAT, THAT THIS IS A FANTASTIC BOARD AND WE'VE DONE FANTASTIC WORK.
UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO ME.
THE, THE, THE, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE FOSTERED WITH MYSELF.
UM, I'VE KNOWN JUDGE LANDERS, UH, SINCE I GUESS ABOUT 13 YEARS OLD.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, I'VE KNOWN HIM FOR A LONG TIME AND, AND CONTINUE, AND HOW THE, THE, THE CIRCLE OF LIFE COMES BACK AROUND EARLY IN LIFE.
AND NOW I GET TO MEET HIM AGAIN AND GET, TO, GET TO WORK WITH HIM.
BUT THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE FOSTERED HERE WITH THIS BOARD OUTSTANDING.
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AND, AND FOR ME, ONCE YOU ALREADY ACHIEVE THAT, IT'S NO WAY TO GO BACK BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY THIS BOARD EXPECTS WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND WE HAVE TO DO EVEN MORE.WE HAVE TO MAKE NEW, NEW GOALS.
AND SO WITH THAT SAID, I'LL INTRODUCE YOU TO THE NEW MAJOR.
AND HE CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE AS A BOARD.
I'VE MADE IT CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THE BOARD, HEY, EVERYTHING IS RUNNING JUST ABOUT AS SMOOTH AS IT CAN.
ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WE GET THEM WHAT THEY EXPECT.
THEY GIVE US FAIRNESS AND TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS WHAT THIS BOARD IS ABOUT.
UH, THE DIRECTOR, UH, WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH.
I'VE MADE IT CLEAR THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP'S CRITICAL FOR THE SUCCESS OF THIS BOARD.
UH, AND SO WE'VE SAT DOWN AND, AND CANCELED.
I KNOW, UM, MAJOR SALAS WAY BACK IN PATROL.
I GOT TO RIDE WITH HIM AS A YOUNG OFFICER, UH, ON LITTLE T, WHICH MEANS THAT I WASN'T EVEN READY TO RIDE BY MYSELF.
SO HE IS A GOOD MAN AND HE'LL BE GREAT FOR THE JOB.
AND I WON'T MAKE THIS THE LAST TIME I'M HERE AT THE BOARD.
IT'LL JUST BE AT A DIFFERENT ROLE.
AND SO, UH, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, I STILL WILL STILL HAVE THE SAME PHONE NUMBER AND STILL HAVE THAT, THAT, UH, WE NEED TO GET THAT INFORMATION TO THE BOARD.
SO, UH, ANYTHING YOU NEED, CERTAINLY MAJOR SALA IS GONNA GET TO YOU, BUT IF, IF NOT BE CLEAR, IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT'S GETTING IT TO YOU.
AND SO I'M STILL A MEMBER OF THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE STILL GONNA GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED AS A BOARD SO WE CAN BOTH BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO THIS IS, UH, WHY HE'S COMING UP.
JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO, MY MAN.
I WANNA, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR HANGING OUT WITH US ON THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
AND AS IT WAS SAID BEFORE, TRANSPARENCY MATTERS.
BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE MATTERS.
I REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS LIKE BEFORE, AND I CAN SAY THAT YOU BEING A PART OF THIS BOARD HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE.
IT HAS MADE THIS BOARD BETTER.
AND, UH, I AM FOREVER GRATEFUL, AND I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES APPRECIATE IT AS WELL.
AND, UH, WELCOME INTO THE FIRE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT I HAVE BIG SHOES TO FILL.
I AM, UH, HUMBLED TO BE PART OF THIS BOARD BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND AS A, A PERSON THAT GREW UP IN DALLAS, I UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF THIS GREAT CITY.
SO I DEFINITELY TAKE THIS BOARD IN MY POSITION VERY SERIOUSLY, AND I WOULD DEFINITELY STRIVE TO CONTINUE THIS AND FOSTER THIS RELATIONSHIP.
SO, UH, JUST GIMME AN OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET GOING AND GET ALL THAT TRAINING AND ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU GUYS ARE REQUESTING.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYBODY.
ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT MAJOR? WELL, NO, I THINK WE HAD A, A GOOD TRAINING SESSION.
I THINK WE HAD FIVE BOARD MEMBERS THAT ATTENDED TRAINING FOR REALITY-BASED TRAINING.
UM, THIS IS THE SAME TRAINING THAT THE OCPO OFFICE WENT THROUGH, UH, REALITY-BASED TRAINING AND ALSO DEESCALATION.
UH, AND, AND AGAIN, I'LL THROW IT OUT THERE.
IF ANYBODY DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GET TO THAT TRAINING, WE COULD CERTAINLY SET IT UP ANOTHER, ANOTHER ROUND OF TRAINING.
AND, UM, IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT, NEXT PIECE OF TRAINING AND, AND, AND DOCTOR WILL, YOU KNOW, TELL US WHAT PIECE YOU GUYS WANT AND WE'LL GET IT TO YOU.
I THINK WE ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE, UH, LIEUTENANT, UH, BLANCHARD.
LIEUTENANT BLANCHARD, WE KNOW YOU'VE BEEN SUPPORTING US AS WELL.
I, AND WHILE HE IS COMING DOWN, I'D ALSO JUST LIKE TO THANK MAJOR GREER.
I KNOW, UH, GOT A LAST MINUTE REQUEST TO DO A RIDE ALONG, AND HE MADE IT HAPPEN.
SO I GAVE HIM ONLY A FEW HOURS, UH, UH, 24, MAYBE FOUR, EIGHT HOURS, AND WAS ABLE TO GET THAT RIDE ALONG AND LEARNED A LOT.
BUT LIEUTENANT BLANCHARD, UM, I HAVE NOT PREPARED ANYTHING TO SPEAK TODAY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I HAD A, I'VE HAD A GOOD RUN WITH INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
I WAS TRANSFERRED TO HOMICIDE, UM, ABOUT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
UM, WE DO MOVE AROUND TO LIEUTENANTS A LOT TO GIVE US EXPOSURE TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND MY TIME IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND SPECIFICALLY WORKING FOR MAJOR GREER HAS BEEN GREAT.
UM, I'VE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THIS TO BE A GOOD PLACE TO WORK FOR GROWTH, FOR LIEUTENANTS, FOR EXPOSURE TO DIFFERENT THINGS AND, UH, DIFFERENT VIEWS.
AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO WORK AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE TIME I'VE HAD HERE.
THANK YOU, LIEUTENANT BLANCHARD.
UM, JUST KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON MY EARLIER, I KNOW I WAS JOKING ABOUT THE RIDE ALONG.
I DID DO FOURTH WATCH, SO, UH, I WANTED TO SEE THE ACTION.
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THAT? I SAY THAT'S HARD HOURS.AND THEN I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DO FRIDAY AND SATURDAY BACK TO BACK, BUT, OH, NO, I COULDN'T DO IT.
UM, BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO, UH, ENCOURAGE OUR BOARD MEMBERS, UH, TO CONDUCT A RIDE ALONG IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, I'M GONNA TRY AND MAKE, UH, MORE DISTRICTS.
UM, BUT WHAT I DID LEARN, UM, AT THAT TIME WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOING THE, THE, UH, KIND OF THE ROLL CALL, UM, WAS ABLE TO TALK TO SEVERAL OF THE OFFICERS AND THEY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR BOARD.
AND A LOT OF THEM WERE, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY CLEAR ON ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO.
SO I SEE IT AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND ALMOST A TRAINING OPPORTUNITY JUST FOR US TO GO THERE AND JUST SIT.
WE MAY NOT HAVE TO DO THE RIDE ALONG, BUT IF WE JUST SAT AT THEIR ROLL CALL AND JUST BE OPEN TO TALK TO THEM AND ASK, UH, ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND ALLOW THEM TO ASK US.
SO I HAD A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS WITH, UM, SEVERAL OF THE, ONE OF THE OFFICERS THAT I RODE WITH, WITH SEVERAL THAT HE WAS TAGGING WITH, UH, WHILE WE WERE OUT, JUST, YOU KNOW, DOING THE WORK THAT THEY DO DAY IN, DAY OUT.
BOARD MEMBER TO HIGGINS, DISTRICT THREE MAJOR GREER.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, UH, THE REASON WHY THE OFFICE OF POLICE, OF THE, THE BOARD EXISTS AND THE OFFICE EXISTS IS BECAUSE THE CHIEF AT THE TIME HAD THE COURAGE TO ENTER INTO A PARTNERSHIP RELATIONSHIP WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY CRITICAL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN DALLAS, UH, AT THE TIME.
AND THAT PARTNERSHIP RELATIONSHIP INSTEAD OF AN ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP IS WHAT LED TO THE CREATION OF THIS BOARD IN THE OFFICE.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU EXEMPLIFY THAT SAME KIND OF SPIRIT OF A SPIRIT OF PARTNERSHIP AND SHOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I THINK THAT IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE TO DPD AND THE CITY OF LIKE, WHAT, WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN OVERSIGHT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE IN A PARTNERSHIP RELATIONSHIP AND, AND REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY ON ONE SIDE AND REPRESENT THE POLICE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
BUT WE ALL REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY.
BUT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW YOU'RE MOVING INTO THE OFFICE WITH THE CHIEF THAT, UH, WE CAN STILL, YOU, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP SPREAD SOME OF THAT SPIRIT OF PARTNERSHIP.
UM, AND, UH, I KNOW YOU WILL THOUGH CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
SO, I JUST APPRECIATE YOU, UH, ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE WITH US.
AND LIKE, LIKE THE REST OF THE BOARD SAID, IT'S BEEN NIGHT AND DAY SINCE, UH, YOU CAME ON BOARD AND, AND YOUR STAFF AND, AND, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL FOR, FOR SHOWING UP.
I JUST HAVE ONE MORE PERSON I WANNA INTRODUCE THE, THE LIEUTENANT THAT'S TAKING LIEUTENANT BLANCHARD'S SPOT.
IF, UH, LIEUTENANT, WHAT? YOU CAN JUST STAND UP THAT, UH, LIEUTENANT.
I'M LIEUTENANT LAURA BROWNING, AND I MET SEVERAL OF YOU LAST WEEK, SO YES, THANK YOU.
AND I DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE, IF YOU HAVE NOT COME, MR. MAPLE.
UM, I'VE BEEN ON FOR 22 YEARS.
I'VE WORKED ALL OVER THE CITY.
AND, UM, ONE THING THAT, SO I WORKED IN ID IN THE PAST AND WE DID NOT HAVE AWARD WITH THIS, THIS LEVEL OF COMMITMENT.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME EXCHANGE.
AND ONE THING THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IS THAT I HOPE YOU ALL KNOW THAT I DON'T VIEW THIS AS ADVERSARIAL AT ALL.
I THINK THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP AND IT'S GREAT TO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE RIGHT ALL THE TIME.
AND I LOVE THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
AGAIN, BEING A DALLAS SITE, I STILL LIVE IN DALLAS.
I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY THINKS IT FEELS, AND I WANT TO HEAR HOW YOU SEE IT.
SO HOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IF WE IN THE MIDDLE.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL.
UH, NEXT, UH, ITEM EIGHT IS OUR OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT STAFF REPORT.
AND TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR ANDRE.
SO I, I, I'M PLEASED TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW COMPLAINT INTAKE SPECIALIST, KIMONA, UM, L RUSSELL, WHO OFFICIALLY JOINED THE OFFICE ON JULY 28TH.
UM, WE WELCOME HER TO THE TEAM, AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST INVITE HER TO SHARE A FEW WORDS, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT HER BACKGROUND.
UM, GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS KIMONA RUSSELL, UM, WITH A BACKGROUND IN CUSTOMER SERVICE, CONFLICT RESOLUTION, MEMBER RELATIONS, AND LEGISLATIVE SUPPORT.
MY ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO APPROACH EVERY COMPLAINT, EVERY SITUATION WITH EMPATHY, INTEGRITY, AND TRANSPARENCY.
UM, ALTHOUGH I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, UM, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WITNESS THE STRONG FOUNDATION THIS OFFICE HAS BUILT.
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UM, AND I COULDN'T BE MORE EAGER AND MORE GRATEFUL TO JOIN THEM AND TO BE HERE.I LOOK FORWARD TO JOINING A TEAM OF LIKE-MINDED INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE A PASSION FOR PUBLIC SERVICE AND COMMUNITY.
UM, THANK YOU, UH, MS. RUSSELL.
AND THAT'S ALL FOR DIRECTOR, UH, ANDRE'S REPORT.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS NO, THERE WE GO.
INTRODUCTION OF INTAKE SPECIALIST.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT AND PARTNERSHIP AS WE WORK TO STRENGTHEN TRUST BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, YOUR DEDICATION REMAINS, UM, ESSENTIAL TO ADVANCE AND MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY CENTERED OVERSIGHT.
SO ON AUGUST, UM, EIGHTH, UM, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT RELEASED HER FINAL RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
UM, I WILL BE ATTENDING UPCOMING AUGUST BUDGET TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN THE FIVE, UM, DISTRICTS THAT WE GENERATE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THIS PHYSICAL YEAR.
AND THAT WOULD BE DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT SIX, DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT FOUR, AND DISTRICT EIGHT.
UM, BECAUSE OF SEVERAL OF THESE MEETINGS ARE SCHEDULED AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME DAY, UM, I'LL JUST BE PRIORITIZING THE DISTRICT'S THAT HAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF CON DIRECT CONTACT AND COMPLAINT SUBMISSION TO OUR OFFICE.
UM, A COPY OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR O CPOS IN THE BINDER FOR YOUR REVIEW.
IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE FOR THE CURRENT PHYSICAL YEAR, WE SET A GOAL OF CONDUCTING 25 COMMUNITY OUTREACH ENGAGEMENT EVENT.
I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT WE HAVE FAR EXCEEDED THIS GOAL BY PARTICIPATING IN 82 EVENTS TO DATE.
UM, OUR COMPLAINT RESOLUTION, UM, COMBINING THE WORK OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN OUR OFFICE WAS TARGETED AT, UM, 70%.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE JULY, WE HAD A LOT OF VACATIONS, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE SUMMER, BUT WE'LL BE CATCHING UP.
UM, THE PERCENTAGE OF INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION COMPLETED BY MY OFFICE WAS SET AT 85%.
WE'RE CURRENTLY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, AFTER TONIGHT, LOOKING AHEAD, UM, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A NEW PERFORMANCE METRICS, WHICH IS TO REVIEW 12 DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES EACH YEAR.
UM, ONE FOR EACH MONTH TO DATE, OUR OFFICE HAS RECEIVED 125 ACCOMMODATION, AND THEN A 1,101 COMPLAINTS.
UM, JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UM, IN A RECENT FIELD ENGAGEMENT ON AUGUST 9TH, I PARTICIPATED IN A WALK ALONG IN DEBELL WITH THE FOURTH, UM, WATCH IN CENTRAL DIVISION.
UM, WHILE I DID NOT WITNESS ANY VIOLENT CRIMES DURING THE VISIT, THE PATROL CHANGES IN THE AREA APPEARS TO BE IMPROVING SAFETY IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
UM, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE AGAIN.
UM, MAJOR GREER ON HIS PROMOTIONS CHIEF OF STAFF.
OUR OFFICE HAVE BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THIS COLLABORATION, SUCH AS IMPROVING COMPLAINT COMMUNICATION, UPDATE, IAD ACCOMMODATION AND COMPLAINT MATERIALS, HANSEN EFFICIENCY IN THE COMPLAINT PROCESS REVIEW, UM, AND ALSO REVITALIZE THE MEDIATION PROGRAM.
AND I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE MEDIATION BECAUSE PRIOR TO THIS, UM, THE MEDIATION PROGRAM WAS IN THE LAW SINCE 2019.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO THANK MAJOR GREER BECAUSE HE REALLY, UM, REALLY BROUGHT THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AND WE WERE ABLE TO MEET.
UM, AND REALLY GETTING THAT BUY-IN, THAT WAS REALLY ESSENTIAL.
AND I'M REALLY HAPPY FOR THE OFFICE TO BE IN A SPACE WHERE, UM, THE ASSOCIATION, THE COMMUNITY JUST FEEL COMFORTABLE FOR US REALLY ENGAGING AND, AND REVITALIZING THIS PROGRAM.
UM, AND THEN I JUST WANNA, UM, WELCOME THE NEW MAJOR AS WELL, SILAS TO THE INDEPENDENT, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, AND LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING A STRONG, UM, WORKING RELATIONSHIP ON THE COMMUNICATION FRONT.
OUR REDESIGN, UM, OCPO WEBSITE LAUNCHED ON JULY 28TH AND IS NOW LIVE AT DL A DL DL CITY, UM SLASH OPO, ALLOWING THE PUBLIC ASSETS INFORMATION ABOUT OUR OFFICE.
UM, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THE PUBLIC FACING ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD WILL BE PUBLISHED TO IMPROVE TRANSPARENCY.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, WE'LL BE COLLABORATING WITH THE OFFICE OF DATA ANALYTICS, UM, AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE TO UPDATE OUR ACCOMMODATION AND COMPLAINT FORM, AND ALSO
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CREATE AN ONLINE FORM FOR THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUESTS.UM, THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD IS SCHEDULED FOR PRESENTATION AT THE SEPTEMBER CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING.
UM, OUR SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, AMMA PEREZ, WILL BE PROVIDING A SUMMARY OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES FROM JUNE TO AUGUST.
WE WOULD ALSO LIKE THE BOARD'S INPUT ON WHETHER WE SHOULD HOLD A BOARD RETREAT IN NOVEMBER.
FINALLY, I JUST WANNA, UM, EXTEND OUR GRATITUDE TO, UM, OUTGOING MEMBERS, ALLISON GR ALLEN, UM, AND D WADSWORTH FOR THE DEDICATED SERVICE, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING THIS, UM, THE INCOMING BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, WE CONTINUE TO WORK, UM, TOWARDS LIKE COMPLETING RIDE ALONG EACH PATROL DIVISION.
THE FINAL, FINAL RIDE ALONG FOR THIS CYCLE, UM, IS IN THE NORTHEAST THIRD WATCH TENTATIVELY FOR AUGUST 22ND.
AS ALWAYS, UM, OUR FOCUS REMAINS ON CONNECTING WITH OUR COMMUNITIES, COLLABORATING WITH KEY PARTNERS, AND THEN COMMUNICATING WITH PURPOSE.
I'M PROUD OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE TOGETHER AND LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING, UM, THE MOMENTUM IN THE COMING MONTHS.
SO I WELCOME IN YOUR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME BOARD.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DIRECTOR? ANDRE'S REPORT? TONGA HIGGINS, DISTRICT THREE.
UM, IT'S JUST ABOUT THE BUDGET
UM, SO I, I NOTICED THAT IT IS, I GUESS IT'S GOING, GOING TO DECREASE.
SO THE OFFICE IS DOING MORE WORK, IT'S MORE EFFICIENT, IT'S FULLY STAFFED, AND THE BUDGET IS GOING DOWN, EVEN THOUGH WE KIND OF GOT SOME COMMITMENTS FROM CITY MANAGEMENT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PRIORITIZE US AT.
UH, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE, WHAT, CAN YOU GIVE ANY INSIGHT ON THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, OR YOU MIGHT GET IN TROUBLE, BUT IF YOU
UM, I THINK THAT HAD SOME, UM, BUT ALSO I, I WOULD SAY IN SOME WAYS WE HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT PRIORITIZED.
AND AS FAR AS STAFFING, UM, THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH DIFFERENT LINES WHERE IT HAS BEEN REDUCED, BUT IT WON'T, WON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT ON OUR OPERATION.
UM, A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS, I WOULD SAY, UM, THAT WASN'T THE CASE AS FAR AS LIKE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, UM, LAYOFFS, UM, THAT WE'VE HAD TO GIVE UP.
SO I THINK IN SOME WAYS WE HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZED IN, IN THE BUDGET.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW, BUT ACCORDING IN, WITHIN THE CITY BUDGET, IN RELATION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET, WHAT, AS FAR AS THE PERCENTAGE, HOW DOES THE O CPO'S BUDGET MATCH UP? I WOULDN'T HAVE THE PERCENTAGE.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT THE WAY THAT WE CURRENTLY COMPARE THE BUDGETS.
UM, BUT I WOULDN'T HAVE THAT NUMBER AT THIS TIME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR ANDRE ON REPORT? UM, SINCE THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE BUDGET, I WAS GONNA KIND OF SAY THIS TO
ONE THING THAT I, UM, WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT TO THE BOARD, I MEAN, TALKING WITH, UH, DIRECTOR ANDRE, UH, BRIEFLY THIS WEEK.
AND WE DID TALK ABOUT THE, THE BUDGET AND THE EXPENSES THAT THE OFFICE INCURS AND THEY PAY A LOT FOR.
YOU HAVE TO BUY EVERYTHING OUT OF YOUR BUDGET.
SO THIS, I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL.
A PAPER REDUCTION ACT OF THE BOARD, UH, I THINK WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, UM, IN REDUCING SOME, UH, EXPENSE, UH, FOR THE BOARD.
I'M SORRY, UH, FOR THE OFFICE.
SO SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER.
UM, AND I'LL MAYBE WAIT AND LET THE, UH, CHAIR WHEN HE'S BACK IN, IN HIS ROLE.
BUT I DEFINITELY THINK IF WE CAN MOVE TO ELECTRONICALLY, WE HAVE OUR LAPTOPS AND MAYBE IF THE BOARD, I MEAN, IF THE OFFICE JUST PRINTS THE AGENDA FOR US, UM, WE COULD SEE SOME SAVINGS FOR THE OFFICE.
SO I WAS GONNA SAY THAT FOR MY REPORT, BUT I THINK IT'S, UH, TIMELY.
NOW, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET, UH, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR DIRECT CHAIR, I, I, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT.
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NAME DISTRICT, SORRY.UH, LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, DISTRICT FOUR, A FEW YEARS BACK, WE DID TRANSITION TO, UM, DIGITAL.
AND WHILE WE NOW HAVE LAPTOPS THAT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER TO PULL EVERYTHING UP.
IT WAS CHALLENGING DURING THE MEETING, JUST PULL UP ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS.
SO IF THEY COULD FIND A WAY TO PUT IT INTO ONE DOCUMENT RATHER THAN US TRYING TO RETRIEVE INDIVIDUAL DOCUMENTS, THEN IT, IT MIGHT BE EASY TO DO, BUT IT, IT WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP UP.
OR, OR MAYBE WE COULD, UH, JONATHAN MAPLES DISTRICT TWO, OR MAYBE WE COULD TURN IN THESE LAPTOPS FOR IPADS OR SOMETHING ELSE.
DIGITAL, MR. MAPLES, MR. MAPLES.
I MEAN, HEY, I'M, I'M A TAXPAYER CITIZEN.
I WOULD SAY WHAT YOU'D, I THINK I PAID INTO THAT BUDGET.
WILL YOU BE ADVOCATING FOR THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
I DON'T WANNA, UH, UH, OVERSTEP, UH, WHILE I'M IN THE CHAIRS POSITION, SO I'LL WAIT FOR THE CHAIR TO COME BACK AND FINALIZE SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. UH, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR DIRECTOR ANDRE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE, UH, ONTO OUR SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR REPORT.
UM, STARTING OFF WITH THE CRITICAL INCIDENT BRIEFINGS.
UH, WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH THE, UH, CRITICAL INCIDENTS.
THERE'S BEEN FOUR CRITICAL INCIDENTS SINCE WE LAST MET.
UM, WE HAVE A VIDEO THAT SHOWS THE, UH, BODY-WORN CAMERAS.
THESE FOUR EVENTS, THEY'RE GONNA RUN BACK TO BACK.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS GONNA BE A OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING, WHERE THE OFFICERS WERE FLAGGED DOWN BY A SHOOTING VICTIM.
AND THE VIDEO'S GONNA SHOW THE OFFICERS RESPONDING TO THE SHOOTING SCENE AND ENCOUNTERING A SUBJECT WITH A GUNSHOT DESCRIPTION.
WE DO HAVE A BACK UP, BACK UP, BACK UP.
YOU GOOD? YOU GOOD? HEY, COME HERE.
HEY, HOW YOU GOT STARTED, BRO? AND THE SECOND IN INCIDENT IS A OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING.
THE OFFICERS RESPONDED TO A SUBJECT THREATENING HIS, UH, ROOMMATE WITH KNIVES.
AND THE OFFICERS ENCOUNTER HIM IN THE STREET.
DROP THE KNIFE, DROP THE KNIFE, DROP THE KNIFE, CHECK THE KNIFE, DROP THE KNIFE.
THIS THIRD INCIDENT IS A DEATH IN CUSTODY.
OFFICERS RESPONDED TO A CALL OF A, UH, SUBJECT ASSAULTING EMPLOYEES
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AND DEMANDING MONEY FROM THEM.UM, AND THEY ENCOUNTER HIM IN THE PARKING LOT.
ARE YOU F*****G LISTENING? DO IT.
CAN, CAN YOU TALK? SIT UP OR LAY, LAY DOWN.
WHAT'S GOING ON? WHERE'S THE FEMALE? SHE'S RIGHT THERE.
AND HE JUST STARTED ATTACKING HER.
AND I, I, I WAS LIKE, IS SHE THE CLERK OR WHO'S THAT? YES, SHE'S RIGHT HERE.
WHAT'S UP, MAN? YOU GETTING ANYTHING TO SAY? IT STARTED AT CVS.
WHATCHA TRYING TO DO? MAN, SIT THERE.
HE STARTED, DUDE WAS ASSAULTING HER.
DID HE, WHAT DID HE DO OVER THERE? HE STARTED TO FIGHT WITH ME.
AND THEN HE LEFT WHEN I CALLED THE COPS.
AND THEN HE CAME OVER HERE? YEAH.
AND WHERE'S THE LADY AT? YOU DON'T SHE? HERE? SHE, SHE WORK HERE.
YOU GOT A D SIR? YOU GOT A D SIR? WHAT THAT YES.
HE WAS JUST, HE WAS OUT, LAID OUT WHEN IT GOT, HE WAS LAID OUT FACE DOWN.
DAILY OR NOT, OR HOW YOU DID THAT.
BUT, BUT HE, UH, HE ASSAULTED THE, THAT GUY OVER THERE AND THEN RAN OVER HERE AND WAS ASSAULTING THE CLERK HERE.
HE WAS TALKING ABOUT SHE HAD SOME MONEY OR SO AIN'T HE STARTED STRIPPING HER LIKE NAKED.
YOU LITERALLY PULLED EVERYTHING OUT.
TALKING ABOUT SHE HAD SOMETHING.
SHE WAS JUST TRYING TO COMPLY BY SAYING, I GOT IT.
WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME, SIR? DO YOU HAVE A NAME? MY MONEY.
WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME? I DON'T KNOW.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME? WHERE'S YOUR MONEY? THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GONNA SAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR MONEY IS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOUR PANTS ARE DOWN EITHER, SIR.
YOU LAYING YOUR SIDE THERE? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? PULL YOUR SHORTS UP.
IT'S EASIER TO BREATHE IF YOU SIT UP.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR MONEY IS.
I'M NOT, YOU'RE NOT STANDING UP.
WE MINUTES TO CHECK OUT OUR, CAN'T SIT ON NOT AN AMBULANCE COMING.
'CAUSE HE'S BEEN DOING THAT, MAN.
IT'S HOTTER IN THERE PROBABLY.
YOU GONNA HAVE TO SIT UP, MAN.
TAKE YOU LAYING DOWN LIKE THAT.
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JUST HANG UP BACK.HE WHAT? WE GOT ACTING VERY ERRATIC.
AND HE CAN'T SIT UP ON HIS OWN POWER.
LIKE, HE CAN BARELY TALK AND HE, IF HE LET GO OF, HE FALLS OVER.
UM, SO Y'ALL PROBABLY NEED A BOX.
SO THESE ARE, EVERYTHING'S GOING THROUGH A COMPUTER AIDED SYSTEM.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE, THEY DIDN'T EVEN GO LOOK AT THE CALL.
HE'S, UH, BUT HE PROBABLY, I, WHEN I PULLED IT UP, HE'S GOT A HISTORY OF DRUG USE.
HE WON'T ADMIT TO ANYTHING NOW, BUT HE CAN BARELY TALK.
AND HE WAS LAID OUT ON THE GROUND WHEN I GOT OUT HERE.
WANT ME TO COME? LITTLE BIT? LITTLE BIT.
SO WE GOT HIS PUFF, THEY GOT HIM 45 ON HIS HEART RATE.
WE CAN DO IT IF YOU NEED ME TO.
THE FRONT POCKET, JUST IN CASE.
I GO GET, I GOT NOTHING ON ON LEAVE TOO.
WE'RE GONNA ROLL WITH, SO I GAVE HIM MY NUMBER TO CALL ME.
HEY, GRAB, GRAB A RADIO FROM UP FRONT.
AND THIS LAST ONE IS ANOTHER OFFICER INVOLVED.
SHOOTING OFFICERS WERE PRESENT WHEN THEY HEARD A GUNSHOT FIRED IN A PARKING LOT OF A CLUB.
I DIDN'T PUT YOUR ARM BEHIND YOUR BACK.
HOLD ON, TURN OVER SO I CAN SAVE YOUR WIFE HERE.
YOU GONNA KEEP GETTING TASED? HOLD ON.
TURN OVER SO I CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE.
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THE STREET.OH, IS OH, I FOUR ONE ARM TURN OPEN.
AND HE'S TRYING TO DO SO WITH, OKAY.
BUT Y DON'T WANT Y'ALL DON'T WANT ME TO SPRAY.
YEAH, HE AND I TOLD YOU TO DROP THE GUN YOU RAN FROM ME.
WHAT GUN? I KNOW, I KNOW, BRO, BECAUSE I WAS SCARED.
UH, AFTER REVIEWING THE, UH, CRITICAL INCIDENT BRIEFINGS, ALL FOUR.
DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF? JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT.
INVESTIGATOR HUFF, DO YOU MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THESE CRITICAL INCIDENTS FROM THE, UH, FROM THE OFFICE? I WILL, BUT THAT WILL BE AFTER, UM, THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETE AND AFTER INTERNAL AFFAIRS, UM, DOES THEIR INVESTIGATION, THEN I'LL GET THE CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO YOU'RE BRINGING TO OUR, OUR ATTENTION FOR OUR INFORMATION AT THIS JUNCTURE, CORRECT? YES.
WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO PART TWO.
UH, CONSIDERATE FIRST CONSIDERATION OF INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FINDINGS.
THE IN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION IS ON THE DEVON LEACH COMPLAINT.
HE COMPLAINED THAT DURING A TRAFFIC STOP, THE OFFICER SAW A HOLSTERED FIREARM IN THE VEHICLE AND STATED, I WILL SMOKE YOU.
UH, REVIEW OF THE BODY-WORN CAMERA SHOWS THEIR EXACT INTERACTION.
UH, DURING THE TRAFFIC STOP, THE OFFICER SAYS, LET ME GET THE DRIVER'S LICENSE.
MAKE SURE YOU KEEP YOUR, THEN THERE'S A PAUSE, AND THAT'S WHEN IT APPEARS.
THE OFFICER NOTICES THE HANDGUN IN THE VEHICLE, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE DRIVER.
THE DRIVER THEN SAYS, YOU WANT ME TO MOVE IT? THE OFFICER RESPONDS, NO, DON'T EVEN TOUCH IT.
THEN THE OFFICER SAYS, IF YOU TOUCH IT, I'M GONNA SMOKE YOUR ASS.
I'M JUST GONNA BE REAL WITH YOU.
THEN THEY GO ON THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STOP.
UH, THIS COMPLAINT WAS SENT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
THEY REFERRED IT TO DIVISION TO INVESTIGATE THE DIVISION.
I BELIEVE, UH, SERGEANT GLADNEY INVESTIGATED THIS AND HE CAME UP WITH A FINDING OF EXONERATED FOR THE OFFICER.
HOWEVER, HE RECOMMENDED THE OFFICER HAVE TRAINING.
UM, WHEN O-C-U-P-O REVIEWED IT, WE FELT THAT WAS A CONTRADICTION TO HAVE AN EXONERATED FINDING AND HAVE THE NEED FOR TRAINING.
SO WE ASKED THAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS REVIEW IT AGAIN.
THEY SENT IT BACK TO THE DIVISION WHERE LIEUTENANT HARWELL REVIEWED IT AND HE REMOVED THE NEED FOR TRAINING, BUT KEPT THE EXONERATED FINDING FOR THE OFFICER.
AND WE'LL JUMP STRAIGHT TO THE FINDINGS FROM OCPO IN THE DIVISION REFERRAL.
LIEUTENANT HARWELL SUGGESTED CORPORAL ER'S LANGUAGE WAS EXCUSED UNDER THE
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CODE OF CONDUCT SECTION 4.14, WHICH STATES NO EMPLOYEE SHALL USE LOUD OR HARSH LANGUAGE IN PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTIES, EXCEPT AS NECESSARY TO GAIN CONTROL OF AN ESCALATING SITUATION.A REVIEW OF THE INCIDENT? UM, WELL, I GUESS I'LL START WITH THE DEFINITION OF ESCALATING BEHAVIOR AS TAUGHT AT THE DALLAS POLICE ACADEMY IS, UM, IS WHEN SOMEONE BECOMES INCREASINGLY AGITATED, ANGRY, OR VIOLENT OVER TIME.
THIS, THIS DRIVER DURING THIS TRAFFIC STOP WAS COMPLIANT THROUGHOUT THE INTERACTION.
THE DRIVER STOPPED HIS MO MOVEMENT AND INQUIRED ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE GUN.
THE DRIVER COMPLIED WITH THE OFFICER'S DIRECTIONS AND EVEN REPLIED, YES, SIR, TO THE OFFICER.
UH, DURING THE INVESTIGATION DONE BY DIVISION, THE OFFICER GAVE A STATEMENT STATING HE WAS IN FEAR OF A DEADLY FORCE SITUATION.
HOWEVER, HIS ACTIONS DID NOT SUPPORT THIS ASSERTION.
THE OFFICER DID NOT REQUEST A COVER OFFICER.
THE OFFICER DID NOT INFORM DISPATCH OF A DEADLY FORCE SITUATION.
THE OFFICER DID NOT DRAW HIS WEAPON, AND THE OFFICER THEN STEPPED IN FRONT OF THE DRIVER'S VEHICLE TO CONTINUE THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.
HE WAS CHECKING OUT THE FRONT LICENSE PLATE COVER, WHICH WOULD PUT HIM AT A TACTICAL DISADVANTAGE.
AND EACH TIME THE OFFICER WENT BACK TO HIS PATROL VEHICLE, HE HAD HIS BACK TOWARDS THE DRIVER, WHICH AGAIN, WOULD BE A TACTICAL DISADVANTAGE IN THE SITUATION.
UH, SERGEANT GLADYS INITIAL INVESTIGATION RESULTED IN A RECOMMENDATION FOR TRAINING.
UM, EVEN THOUGH HE STATED THE FINDING WAS EXONERATED, THE SERGEANT WAS RECOMMENDED TRAINING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LANGUAGE THAT THE OFFICER USED.
A LIEUTENANT HARWELL DOCUMENTED IN HIS REPORT.
HE STATED, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS MUST COMMUNICATE IN A MANNER THAT ENSURES COMPLIANCE AND MAINTAINS CONTROL, PARTICULARLY WHEN FACED WITH POTENTIAL THREATS.
THE PHRASE I'M GONNA SMOKE YOUR ASS IS A SLANG PHRASE.
IT IS A FIGURATIVE EXPRESSION IS NOT EVEN A LITERAL THREAT.
USING A FIGURATIVE EXPRESSION IS DEPENDENT ON THE RECIPIENT.
BEING AWARE OF THIS INTENDED MEANING USING A FIGURATIVE EXPRESSION DOES NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT LIEUTENANT HARWELL RECOMMENDED FOR THE OFFICER'S COMMUNICATIONS.
LIEUTENANT HARWELL FURTHER STATED, HIS VERBAL COMMANDS WERE NOT INAPPROPRIATE, BUT RATHER NECESSARY TO PREVENT ESCALATION AND REINFORCE OFFICER SAFETY.
GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE ENCOUNTER, HIS APPROACH ALIGNED WITH STANDARD POLICE PROTOCOL AND DEESCALATION PRINCIPLES WHILE NA, WHILE MAINTAINING A FIRM COMMAND PRESENCE.
UM, WHEN I REVIEWED IT, UM, MY CONCLUSION IS MORE USING A SLANG PHRASE WITH PROFANITY IS NEVER CONSIDERED NECESSARY.
USING THIS TYPE OF LANGUAGE PROMOTES UNPROFESSIONALISM AND UNPROFESSIONALISM PROMOTES AN IMAGE OF LACK OF CONTROL OVER THE SITUATION, AND MAINTAINING A PROFESSIONAL IMAGE AND RESPONSE IS A CORNERSTONE OF COMMAND PRESENCE AND DEESCALATION.
UH, LIEUTENANT HARWELL ADVISED THAT CORPORAL WILFRED'S ACTIONS WERE FULLY IN COMPLIANT WITH SECTION 4.14, WHICH AGAIN STATES THAT NO EMPLOYEE SHALL USE LOUD OR HARSH LANGUAGE, UM, IN PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTIES AS EXCEPT TO GAIN CONTROL OF AN ESCALATING SITUATION.
WELL, THIS TRAFFIC STOP WAS NOT AN ESCALATING SITUATION.
AND LOUD OR HARSH LANGUAGE DOES NOT INCLUDE PROFANITY.
SO, BASED ON THAT SECTION 4.14 OF THE CODE DOES NOT APPLY.
THE FINDINGS OF THE OCPO OFFICE WILL BE SUSTAINED FOR OFFICER OR FOR SENIOR CORPORAL MATTHEW WILFORD FOR CODE OF CONDUCT SECTION 4.15, WHICH STATES NO EMPLOYEE SHALL USE INDECENT OR PROFANE LANGUAGE IN PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTIES OR IN THE PRESENCE OF THE PUBLIC.
THE O-C-O-P-O RECOMMENDS THAT THE NEED FOR TRAINING FOR SENIOR CORPORAL WOLF WOLFER BE REINSTATED AND THE DIVISION REFERRAL FINDING CHANGE TO SUSTAINED.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? INVESTIGATOR HUFF, UH, JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO, UH,
SO I WILL SMOKE YOUR ASS COMING FROM THE INNER CITY.
IT IS SLANG, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS I'M GONNA SMOKE YOUR ASS BEING A POLICE OFFICER WITH A GUN ON YOUR HIP, OR I WILL SMOKE YOUR ASS.
THAT IS A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF THREAT AS OPPOSED TO I'LL SMOKE YOUR ASS.
IF I, IF, IF, IF I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE IN A HEATED CONVERSATION AND I JUST SAID, MAN, LOOK OUT, I'LL
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SMOKE YOUR ASS.BUT IF A POLICE OFFICER IS STANDING WITH A, WITH A, WITH A GUN HOLSTERED ON HIS HIP TELLING SOMEBODY HE'LL SMOKE HIS ASS, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT AS A LEVEL OF THREAT, ESPECIALLY IN A SITUATION THAT DIDN'T WARRANT IT.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S MY POINT OF VIEW ON THAT.
ANY OTHER BOARD COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
WHO HAVE, UH, BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN, GO AHEAD.
YEAH, AND SORRY FOR NOT BEING THERE.
THIS IS BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT MR. MAPLE SAID.
UM, WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY.
UM, IF I SAY I'LL SMOKE YOUR ASS ON MY FRIENDS, THAT'S ONE THING.
UM, BUT WHEN A POLICE OFFICER SAYS THAT TO A RESIDENT IN A NON ESCALATING SITUATION, THAT IS A THREAT TO KILL 'EM.
UM, SO I AGREE WITH THE FACT THAT THIS HAS BEEN SUSTAINED.
MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS NOW? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO NOW WITH THIS? BECAUSE IT, HE DOES NEED, THE OFFICER DOES NEED RETRAINING, BUT WE ALSO NEED DPD TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THIS WAS WRONG AND THAT'S WHY HE NEEDS RETRAINING.
SO I, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY TRIED TO EXONERATE HIM.
SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA, WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS AT THIS POINT.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A BOARD MEMBER, FREEMAN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A VOTE TO APPROVE THE, UH, FINDINGS OF INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S, UH, INVESTIGATION.
AND PART OF THAT IS RECOMMENDED TRAINING.
SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF SUSTAINING AND RECOMMENDING TRAINING, UH, JUDGE LAND DISTRICT EIGHT.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION OF, UH, MAJOR, MAJOR, YES SIR.
IF SOMEONE IS, IF THIS WAS SUSTAINED, UH, AS TO NEEDING NEW TRAINING THAT GOES INTO THE OFFICER'S JACKET AND FINAL INFORMATION, IS THAT CORRECT? I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE BOARD, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT THIS IS SUSTAINED DOES NOT EQUATE INTO THE BEING SUSTAINED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IF IT IS SUSTAINED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AFTER THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION, THEN IT BECOMES PART OF THE OFFICER'S, UM, INFORMATION.
IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SUSTAINED IT, THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.
SO AFTER, IF WE VOTED TO SUSTAIN IT, THEN IT GOES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION AND THEY COULD IGNORE US TOO.
UH, THAT, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
UH, MR. FRIEDMAN, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? UH, IT, IT DOES.
UM, UH, SO I, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, BUT I, I ALSO JUST, SOMETIMES WE DROP THINGS AND I WOULD LIKE US TO, TO GET SOME FOLLOW UP ON THIS NEXT MONTH, UH, TO SEE HOW IT, HOW IT BEARS OUT.
UM, AFTER, UH, GOING THROUGH THE TRAINING THIS LAST WEEK, AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I NOTICED WAS, UM, IF WE TAKE THE PROFANITY OUT AND JUST LOOK AT THE WAY HE BEHAVED, KNOWING THAT THE GUN WAS IN THE CAR TO GO IN FRONT OF THE CAR AND THEN, UH, WALK WITH HIS BACK, IT'S OUT.
IT'S AS IF HE NEEDED TRAINING ON HOW TO HANDLE A CASE, PERIOD.
LIKE NOT JUST PROFANITY, BUT HIS, HIS PERSON AND I GUESS HIS STATUS AS A POLICEMAN TO, TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A GUN.
IF HE WOULD'VE GOTTEN SHOT, WOULD THAT HAVE, I MEAN, I GUESS IT WOULD'VE BEEN HIS FAULT FROM JUST THE WAY HE BEHAVED AS TO WALK IN FRONT OF THE CAR AND GET THE LICENSE PLATE OR TO WALK AND TURN HIS BACK AWAY FROM HIM KNOWING THAT THE, THE GUN WAS IN THERE AND IF THE THREAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO KNOW SOMEBODY, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, LET ME, UH, I'M GONNA BRING THE, UM, THE MAJOR UP THAT HELPED WITH THE INVESTIGATION AT THE DIVISION LEVEL IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR HIM.
BECAUSE I GUESS THE, THE THING THAT I'M, ONCE AGAIN, DERRICK, UH, DISTRICT SIX, NO KIND OF TRAINING WAS, I MEAN, NO KIND OF RETRAINING WAS GIVEN, EVEN IF IT WAS, UM, ON A VERBAL LEVEL, LEVEL, ESPECIALLY HOW TO HANDLE YOURSELF IN A ARREST SITUATION.
UM, HAVE YOU HAVE, HAVE Y'ALL WATCHED A VIDEO OF THE INCIDENT WITH, UM, OFFICER WOODFORD? YES.
DID Y'ALL SLOW IT DOWN AND SEE? UM, 'CAUSE WOODFORD, I'M SAY HE'S A, HE'S A GOOD OFFICER.
AND SO WHEN THIS SITUATION HAPPENED, I WAS LIKE, MAN, WHEN YOU FIRST WATCH IT FROM REGULAR SPEED, HE WAS LIKE, OH NO, HE FINNA GET WRITTEN UP.
BUT I'M LIKE, THAT'S NOT HIS CHARACTER.
SO I'M LIKE, SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT.
SO WHAT I ENDED UP DOING, I ENDED UP SLOWING THE VIDEO DOWN.
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THE WAY DOWN.SO WHEN HE ACTUALLY GOT TO GET HIS LICENSE, HE RE, YOU KNOW, HE HAD THE GUN ON HIS HIP, HE REACHED BACK HIS HAND, HIT THAT GUN, AND IF YOU SEE HIM, YOU SEE HIM KIND OF MOVE OVER A LITTLE BIT TO THE RIGHT AND THEN SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, DON'T TOUCH IT.
UM, THEN THAT'S WHEN HE USED THAT, UH, IN PARTICULAR LANGUAGE.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, ESCALATION, LIKE, I HAVE TO CURSE AT YOU OR ANYTHING, SOMETIMES THINGS CAN GO FROM ZERO TO A HUNDRED EXTREMELY FAST.
AND SO WHEN HE SAW THAT MAN HAND HIT THAT GUN, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN HE, HE IMMEDIATELY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES TIME FOR YOUR BRAIN TO REGISTER WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO, UM, I WATCHED THE VIDEO A THOUSAND TIMES OVER AND, UM, WHEN I ENDED UP TALKING TO WOLFER, I EXPLAINED TO HIM, I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION IS NOT RENDERED SAFE UNTIL YOU PRETTY MUCH IN YOUR CAR AND YOU DRIVING OFF.
UM, HE DID NOT, UM, I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT GOING IN FRONT OF THE CAR.
I TOLD HIM THAT WAS, THAT WAS A BIG OFFICER SAFETY.
HE SAID ONCE HIM AND HIM AND THE GUY, ONCE THEY TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING, HE, HE CAME ON THE GUYS LEVEL.
HE SAID HE DIDN'T SEE HIM AS A THREAT ANYMORE.
UHHUH CAN'T REMEMBER THE, THE PHRASE THAT THE, UH, THE TRAINER GAVE US.
BUT LIKE YOU SAY, EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF HANDLING THINGS.
BUT AS AN OFFICER, ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE THE CUSSING OUT, JUST THE WAY THAT HE HANDLED HIMSELF AS FAR AS KNOWING THAT GUN WAS IN THERE MM-HMM
AND GOING UP IN FRONT OF IT AND TURNING HIS BACK, HE DOESN'T NEED ANY KIND.
HE SHOULD HAVE, I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE HAD TRAINING ON JUST HOW TO REALLY HANDLE THAT.
EVEN SIR, IF, IF WE TAKE THAT GUN, LIKE YOU SAY, UM, HIM SEEING THAT GUN, YEAH, HE FLIPPED MM-HMM
BUT STILL TO, TO STILL GO IN FRONT OF THAT CAR KNOWING THAT THAT GUN IS IN THE CAR.
I THINK THAT WAS A, AND, AND ONE OF THE DEALS, LIKE I EXPLAINED TO HIM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COME AS LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE COME IN CONTACT WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE, HAVE GUNS ON 'EM ALL THE TIME.
AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE DEALS THAT I ASKED, UH, C CORPORAL WILER, AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CAME DOWN, HE SAID, I'M NOT GONNA LIE TO YOU T HE SAID, I, I, I FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WAS, WE HAD AN UNDERSTANDING WITH EACH OTHER.
SO THEN THAT'S WHEN I ADVISED HIM, I SAY, HEY MAN, WE TRY NOT TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN STICK YOUR ARM OUT, DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO, UH, 'CAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THE E CITATION SCANNER, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SCAN THE FRONT OF THE CAR AND IT GIVES INFORMATION.
SO I, I JUST TOLD HIM, MAN, JUST, JUST BE MINDFUL OF WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE WITH FIREARMS MADE YOU JUDGE LANDER DISTRICT EIGHT, ONCE THE INDIVIDUAL HAS, UH, INITIATED A STOP.
AND EVEN IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THIS IS HIS COUSIN, IT'S STILL A STOP IN MY OPINION.
AND WHILE HE MAY HAVE DECIDED THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL'S OKAY, EVERYTHING'S FINE UNTIL HE LEAVES MM-HMM
IT'S STILL A STOP, I WOULD BELIEVE.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME.
AND THE FACT THAT HE DID THE THINGS THAT HE DID, LIKE TURNING HIS BACK ON THE PUNISHMENT, UM, WE SAW VIDEO OF SOMEONE WHO WAS CALLED TO THE, TO THE, UM, TO THE PORCH, COME ON UP, COME ON, I'M COMING UP.
THAT INITIATED STOP MEANS THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH EACH OTHER, REGARDLESS OF HOW WELL HE FEELS ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL, IN MY OPINION.
UM, I WANT TO GO ONLINE, I THINK, UM, BOARD MEMBER BA DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP?
ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS AFTER HEARING THAT EXPLANATION, I'M A LITTLE EVEN MORE WORRIED THAN BEFORE BECAUSE FIRST HIS BEHAVIOR SEEMS LIKE HE'S ESCALATING, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST.
AND THEN HIS EXPLANATION FOR HIS SUBSEQUENT BEHAVIOR THAT HE, AND HE FELT HE WAS OKAY WITH THE GUY.
NOW HE SEEMS LIKE HE'S TOTALLY MISREADING THE SITUATION AS WELL, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE GUY WAS NOT OKAY WITH HIM.
UH, HE WROTE A COMPLAINT, UH, AFTERWARDS, AND IN THE COMPLAINT HE SAID HE FELT THREATENED BY THE OFFICER BASED ON HIS LANGUAGE.
SO THREATENING SOMEONE WITH A GUN IS BY ITS NATURE, PRETTY ESCALATING.
UNLESS THERE'S A GOOD REASON FOR YOU TO HAVE TO THREATEN THAT PERSON.
IT SEEMS LIKE HE ESCALATED THE SITUATION AND THEN MISREAD IT, AND THEN, THEN, THEN TREAT IT AS NO BIG DEAL AFTER HE, HE MADE IT A MORE HOSTILE SITUATION TO BEGIN WITH.
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WHY FURTHER TRAINING IS NOT NECESSARY FOR, IT SEEMS LIKE MULTIPLE POTENTIAL FAILURE POINTS IN THIS.UM, BEEN, IT'S BEEN 17 YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE I HAVE RESPONDED TO A CALL MYSELF PERSONALLY.
AND WHEN, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE A, A PERSON WHO'S, WHO'S UPSET, EVERYTHING IS GOING OUTTA HAND.
AND THEN ONCE EVERYTHING STARTED TO COME DOWN, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
UM, AND THE REASON, AND WHEN THE YOUNG MAN WITH THIS SITUATION, WHEN HE PUT HIS HAND, WHEN HE TOUCHED THAT GUN, EVEN THOUGH THE YOUNG MAN WAS NERVOUS, HE ADMITTED TO BEING NERVOUS.
AND HE ALSO STATED, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME GETTING PULLED OVER WHEN HE PUT IT, WHEN HIS HAND TOUCHED THAT GUN.
THAT'S WHAT MADE, UH, UH, SENIOR CORPORAL WILER USE THAT TYPE OF, UH, LANGUAGE WITH HIM.
BECAUSE I MEAN, I, I WOULDN'T AS EVEN AS A CIVILIAN, UM, EVEN WHEN I RIDE OFF DUTY, THAT'S THE ONE THING I WOULD, I WOULD NEVER DO IS, IS, IS PUT MY HAND CLOSE TO MY GUN AT ALL.
I, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT, THAT ANSWERS THE SITUATION OF, THAT MIGHT HELP EXPLAIN WHY HE USED THE INITIAL LANGUAGE, BUT THEN WHY DID HE THEN TREAT AN ESCALATED SITUATION AS A NO BIG DEAL SITUATION THEN? AND WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE THE SITUATION WAS HEIGHTENED THAT FIRST STARTING OFF, AND THEN IT STARTED TO COME DOWN.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL CALLS I HAVE BEEN ON PERSONALLY WHERE IT STARTS OFF, YOU KNOW, UP TOP AND THEN ONCE CONVERSATIONS BEING HAD AND EVERYTHING UNDERSTANDING, THEN IT, IT DROPS DOWN.
SO YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU TRY, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TIME YOU BE AS AN OFFICER, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, WE FORCED WITH FORCE.
AND SO AFTER THEY GOT AN UNDERSTANDING WITH EACH OTHER, THEN THAT'S WHEN HE, HE BROUGHT HIS, HIS, UH, FORCE CONTINUUM DOWN AND THAT'S WHEN HE REALIZED, OKAY, THE GUY I UNDERSTAND HE'S NERVOUS.
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN HE, UM, EVEN THOUGH I GO, I DON'T CONDONE WHAT HE DID, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE DEALS THAT HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, HE YEAH.
NO, I, I I, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ON WHY FURTHER TRAINING WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY FOR, THERE MIGHT BE DISAGREEMENT ON WHETHER HE CAUSED THE ESCALATION OR NOT, BUT THEN HIS BEHAVIOR AFTER IT WAS ESCALATED SEEMS ALSO INAPPROPRIATE.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY.
DISTRICT SIX, UH, DEREK GRAM, AGAIN, I, IT THE SAME THING YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU SAY IT, IT WAS A DUMB MOVE.
BUT SO WHY WASN'T THERE SOME KIND OF TRAINING AFTER THAT? MM-HMM
AND, AND, AND WHETHER IT SAY, WOULD IT GO INTO HIS RECORD THERE WILL FOLLOW HIM THAT HE DID SOMETHING AS SILLY AS, OR FOOLISH AS THAT? WELL, AS AN OFFICER ON DUTY MM-HMM
AND TO SAY, OH, YEAH, I, I'M AWARE, I'M AWARE THAT IT WAS A DUMB MOVE, BUT TO, TO NOT REPRIMAND IN ANY WAY OR SUSTAIN.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE, THE FAULT OR THE BREAK IS COMING AT.
'CAUSE IT COULD COST HIM HIS LIFE.
AND THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE DEALS, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE DEALS I'M BIG ON.
SO WHEN I, UM, WHEN I WATCHED THE VIDEO, I WATCHED THE VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES, AND I HAD A, A ONE-ON-ONE MEETING WITH SEEING CORPORAL WILER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I EXPLAINED TO HIM IT'S, IT IS ALWAYS WAYS TO DO THINGS.
AND I TELL HIM, YOU KNOW, I EXPLAINED TO HIM, HEY, MAN, DON'T LET YOU GUARD DOWN.
I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, YOU FELT TOWARDS THE END OF THE TRAFFIC STOP, YOU FELT COMFORTABLE WITH HIM, BUT YOU KNOW, HEY, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN, YOU KNOW? AND, AND HIM AND I TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT PULLING THE GUY IN THE CAR, LEAVE HIM IN THE CAR BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE THIS GUY A STRAIGHT DIRECT TARGET.
YOU KNOW, YOU WANT HIM TO TURN IF HE'S SITTING IN THAT CAR.
AND I SAID, YOU HAVE TO PUT HIM AT A DISADVANTAGE EVERY SINGLE TIME.
AND HE, AND HE SAID, YOU KNOW, LT, I PROMISE YOU IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
AND I SAID, ALL RIGHT MAN, BECAUSE I SAID SOME, YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS, YOU CANNOT SAY INDEX, YOU CANNOT SAY, HEY, PAUSE.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN AN APARTMENT, THERE ARE MANY OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEEN PUT IN THE GROUND BECAUSE FEELING COMFORTABLE AROUND SOMEBODY.
SO, UH, OZZIE SMITH, DISTRICT ONE.
SO I, I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING, YOU KNOW, SOME CONTEXT THAT'S SLOWING THE VIDEO DOWN.
SO I HAVEN'T SEEN IT AT THAT PACE.
UM, PART OF ME LISTENS TO, OKAY, IAD STATES THAT, UM, THIS WAS NOT A POLICY VIOLATION BASED ON THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
WHAT I'M CHALLENGED WITH IS THE CHANGE OF TRAINING IS RECOMMENDED TO GO BACK AND SAY IT'S NOT, IT'S THE PERCEPTION PIECE THAT CHANGED THE, UM, THE OUTCOME OF THIS, UH, INVESTIGATION.
AND SO WHEN I, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU KIND OF GAVE YOU, YOU BROUGHT HIM IN AND YOU SPOKE TO HIM MM-HMM
AND YOU GAVE HIM SOME, YOU KNOW, ADVICE AS YOU JUST MENTIONED HERE, SOME OF THE TACTICAL THINGS THAT HE SHOULD, SHOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY.
AND OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I, I DO HAVE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, A GREATER PERSPECTIVE AFTER DOING RIDE-ALONGS, YOU DEFINITELY GET GREATER PERSPECTIVE.
AND SO ALSO WANNA BE MINDFUL OF WHAT THE POLICE OFFICER IS GOING THROUGH AS WELL.
WITH ALL OF THAT IN MIND, THEN MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, WHEN DO YOU
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SAY THAT THIS OFFICER NEEDS TRAINING VERSUS I'M GIVING HIM SIDEBAR SUGGESTIONS? I MEAN, UM, BY HAVING REAL ESTATE WITH, UH, WILFORD, YOU KNOW, HE, HE'S A GOOD OFFICER AND THERE BEEN, I HAVE COVERED HIM ON SEVERAL TRAFFIC STOPS.UM, I ALSO, UH, COVERED HIM ON SEVERAL CALLS AND HE'S VERY, UM, HE'S VERY TACTFUL, YOU KNOW, HE'S A MILITARY GUY, HE'S VERY TACTFUL.
IT JUST ON THIS OCCASION, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT GOT, HE, IT GOT THE BEST OF HIM.
HE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T SEE THE GUY AS A, AS A THREAT ANYMORE, HOW HE SAW HIM AT FIRST.
I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO, SO I KNOW GOING FORWARD MM-HMM
WHEN THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, WE'RE SAYING THAT THIS OFFICER NEEDS SOME TRAINING, AND PART OF IT IS OURS IS ON THE KIND OF LANGUAGE AND ENGAGEMENT PIECE.
BUT ANOTHER PART OF THAT IS ALSO I FEEL WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD CALL YOUR TACTICAL PIECE.
YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT HE WAS DOING.
SO WHEN WOULD YOU SAY THAT AN OFFICER DID SOMETHING, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THAT UH, THIS INDIVIDUAL, THIS CITIZEN DID NOT FILE A COMPLAINT.
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S, LET'S PUT THAT TO THE SIDE.
IF YOU SAW THIS BODY-WORN CAMERA, JUST AS SOME RANDOM AUDIT THAT YOU WERE DOING OF YOUR OFFICERS, WHEN WOULD YOU SAY AN OFFICER NEEDS TO GO BACK TO RELEARN SOMETHING, HAVE PROPER TRAINING VERSUS JUST TALKING TO 'EM? SO, I, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN TRUE TRAINING, YOU NEED TO SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THIS AGAIN, IS SUGGESTED VERSUS YOU'RE JUST TALKING TO YOUR SUPERIOR AND THEY'RE GIVING YOU SOME ADVICE AND SUGGESTION.
UH, SO WITH, UH, WITH WILFORD, YOU KNOW, BY HAVING REAL ESTATE WITH WILFORD, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE SEEN HIS OFFICER SAFE SKILLS.
NOW THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES, LIKE WHEN I WAS ON CHANNEL SEVEN IN SOUTH CENTRAL, YOU KNOW, I HAD AN OFFICER, UH, HE, HE SEVERAL TIMES HE DONE MISSED A GUN SEVERAL TIMES.
HE FORGOT TO PAT SOMEBODY DOWN, UM, SEVERAL TIMES HE FORGOT TO, UH, KEEP THE COMPLAINANT AND THE SUSPECT AWAY FROM EACH OTHER.
AND I SAW THAT DURING BODY-WORN CAMERA AUDITS.
AND SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HEY, I SENT HIM BACK TO TRAINING.
I SENT HIM BACK TRAINING TO WORK ON HIS SEARCHING SKILLS.
I SENT HIM BACK TO TRAINING, UM, TO WORK ON HIS, HIS PEOPLE SKILLS.
I SENT HIM BACK, UM, I SENT HIS OFFICER BACK TO TRAINING, UM, TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, HE HAS TO DO BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO HIS SAFETY.
BUT SOMEBODY LIKE WILFORD, WHO PRETTY MUCH I HAD REAL ESTATE WITH ALL ALMOST A YEAR AND, AND RESPONDING AND RESPONDING TO CALLS WITH HIM, HELPING HIM, COVERING HIM ON TRAFFIC STOPS.
HIS, HIS OFFICER SAFETY SKILLS ARE SOLID.
IT JUST THAT DAY, HE, HE, ONCE EVERYTHING COME DOWN, HE, HE MADE A MISTAKE.
SO JUST FINALIZING WHAT I FEEL, WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING IS IT'S KIND OF AT YOUR DISCRETION OF WHEN THIS OFFICER NEEDS TO KIND OF REALLY GO BACK KIND OF THROUGH A CLASSROOM TRAINING VERSUS, HEY, YOU HAD A ONE-OFF BAD DAY, DON'T DO X, Y, AND Z AGAIN.
SO IS THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING, SIR.
IT, SIR, UP TO YOU TO YES, SIR.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THE SUPERVISORS TO, TO SEE THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WATCHING THESE VIDEOS, WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH THEIR TROOPS.
AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST THINGS IN THE UNIT.
I'M BIG ON, I'M BIG ON REAL ESTATE, SO YOU CAN ASK ME ABOUT ANY ONE OF MY TROOPS, I CAN GIVE YOU A SOLID ANSWER ABOUT 'EM.
ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? UH, BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN? I SEE YOUR HAND.
YEAH, I, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THIS, THE SURE.
UH, WILFORD SEEMS LIKE REALLY PRETTY GOOD.
OFFICER IN GENERAL MADE A MISTAKE MM-HMM
UM, BUT THE, THE, THE ANGLE HERE IS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE IS DOING A LOT TO PROTECT A PRETTY GOOD OFFICER WHO MADE A MINOR MISTAKE.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHILE DPD VIEWS THIS AS A MINOR MISTAKE, THE, THE COMPLAINANT, THE RESIDENT DID NOT VIEW IT AS A MINOR MISTAKE.
AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT IMPACTED HIS LIFE BEING THREATENED.
I THINK HIS LIFE THREATENED BY A POLICE OFFICER OVER A TRAFFIC STOP.
AND SO I JUST, I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO CONSIDER THAT THAT WHAT DPD MAY VIEW AS SOMETHING MINOR.
YOU KNOW, I, I TOO WAS IN THE MILITARY AND WE SAY, WE WOULD SAY THINGS LIKE, I'LL SMOKE YOUR ASS ALL THE TIME.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A RESIDENT WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE USED TO HEARING THAT, WHEN AN ARMED OFFICER OF THE LAW THREATENS TO SMOKE YOUR ASS WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN ON THE NEWS THE LAST 15 YEARS, UM, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT THAT PERSON, IT, IT MAY BE A MUCH BIGGER DEAL FOR THE PERSON ON THE RECEIVING END THAN FOR A POLICE OFFICER WHO DOES THIS STUFF DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT.
AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE OFFICERS SHOULD BE MADE TO CONSIDER AND THAT POTENTIALLY COULD INVOLVE MORE TRAINING.
UM, WE TAKE EVERY COMPLAINT SERIOUS.
EVERY, EVERY COMPLAINT THAT COMES BY, WE TAKE IT SERIOUS.
UM, WHEN IT COMES TO ME, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW I GREW UP, BUT I WATCHED THE OFFICER, YOU KNOW, PUT A GUN TO MY BROTHER HEAD AND, AND MAKE SOME STATEMENTS.
SO EVERY COMPLAINT THAT COME THROUGH, I TAKE SERIOUS.
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MONTHS AGO, I HAD AN OFFICER END UP CURSING GOD ON A TRAFFIC STOP AND I END UP WRITING OFFICER UP.SO WE, WE DEFINITELY TAKE EVERY COMPLAINT SERIOUS.
UM, WE HAD TRIED TO REACH OUT TO MR. LEACH MULTIPLE TIMES, UH, SERGEANT PURDY, SERGEANT GLADI MYSELF TO LET HIM KNOW, HEY, THIS, WE ARE, WE'RE DEFINITELY HANDLING THIS SITUATION.
SO, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK WE'RE NOT TAKING NOTHING SERIOUS.
'CAUSE WE ARE ESPECIALLY, AND I, IDEAS IS TAKING THIS SERIOUS AS WELL, SIR.
I APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT AT THIS TIME.
UM, BASED ON, UM, CHAIR, CHAIR, I HAD ONE MORE, I'LL HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT.
SEAN HIGGINS, DISTRICT THREE, UM, I THINK IT WAS BOARD MEMBER FREEMAN THAT ASKED, WHAT CAN WE DO, UM, PER THE ORDINANCE? LIKE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GET SOME KIND OF, UH, RESPONSE FROM THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT OUR RECOMMENDATION IF WE DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO KEEP IN MIND, AND FROM THERE WE CAN DECIDE WHAT WE WANT TO DO FROM THERE.
SO, SO BOARDS, UH, NEXT STEPS FOR US.
UM, INVESTIGATOR HUFF HAS DONE HIS DUE DILIGENCE AND HE HAS PROVIDED, UM, HIS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE OFFICE.
SO IT'S UP TO US TO VOTE TO WHETHER WE APPROVE HIS FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND IF WE DO, THEN THOSE WILL BE SENT FROM THE OFFICE, UH, OVER TO DPD.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL GO DOWN.
UM, MS. MR. FREEMAN, THE OFFICER SAID IF YOU TOUCH IT, I'LL SMOKE YOUR ASS.
HE DIDN'T JUST SAY, I'LL SMOKE YOUR ASS.
HE SAID IF YOU TOUCH IT, I'LL SMOKE YOUR ASS.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR VOTE.
UM, IF YOU AGREE, UH, AN INVESTIGATOR OF HOUSE FINDINGS AND HIS RECOMMENDATION, OR VOTE NAY IF YOU DO NOT.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL START WITH DISTRICT, UH, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES.
HEY, I'M TRYING TO GET THIS MEETING DONE.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S, UM, FINDINGS AND THEN, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
I, I MAKE THE MOTION D WADSWORTH DISTRICT 12.
I MAKE THE MOTION WE ACCEPT INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S FINDING AND REFER IT BACK TO THE, UH, POLICE CHIEF.
IS THERE A SECOND? FRIEDMAN? BRANDON FRIEDMAN.
ALRIGHT, BEEN PROPERLY SECOND.
ARE WE READY? THAT'S THE PROCEDURE.
ANY UNREADINESS ANY QUESTIONS? NO.
NOW WHEN YOU SECOND THE MOTIONS DISCUSSION.
SO I'M READY FOR YOUR, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION ON WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR.
THAT'S THE SUMMARY I WAS GIVING EARLIER WAS INVESTIGATOR HUFF HAS HIS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POLICY AND DISCIPLINE.
UH, ROMAN NUMBER SEVEN, THE OCPO RECOMMENDS THE NEED FOR TRAINING FOR SENIOR CORPORAL WILFORD BE REINSTATED INTO THE DIVISION REFERRAL AND THE FINDINGS CHANGE TO SUSTAINED THE OCPO ENCOURAGES THE DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW LANGUAGE, USE PROTOCOLS TO REINFORCE PROFESSIONALISM DURING CITIZENS INTERACTIONS.
SO SUSTAIN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SUSTAIN PART, RIGHT? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE READY FOR THE VOTE? CALL FOR THE VOTE.
DISTRICT TWO, JONATHAN MAPLES.
DISTRICT EIGHT C THELANDER DISTRICT EIGHT? YES.
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OH, ABSENT DISTRICT 10.DISTRICT 15 IS ABSENT AND I'M DISTRICT ONE.
UH, MR. MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.
MR. MAPLE? UM, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND, AND, AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP, UM, BY THE MAJOR WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SENIOR CORPORAL BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM HAVE BEEN POLICE OFFICERS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
AND YOU KNOW, I I, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID IN MY LIFE WAS PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF FOOTBALL AND AFTER EVERY GAME YOU WATCH THE VIDEO AND IN THAT VIDEO YOU SLOW THINGS DOWN.
WELL, THIS IS REAL LIFE AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET TO SLOW THINGS DOWN.
SO LOOKING AT THAT VIDEO, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING WE MISSED.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT DIRECTOR, OR, OR EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD EVEN GO ABOUT DOING.
BUT IF, IF LOOKING AT A VIDEO SLOWER OR SLOWING IT DOWN OR SHOW US, WE'LL SHOW US SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE MISSING, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
BECAUSE AT OLD COASTER USED TO TELL US THAT FILM DOES NOT LIE.
SO THAT'S JUST MY 2 CENTS WORTH ON THAT.
AND I ALSO, I KNOW, UM, I DIDN'T DO IT, BUT I KNOW ON SOME OF THE, UM, UH, RECORDERS THAT YOU'RE WATCHING, YOU CAN CHANGE THE SPEED ON IT.
SO THERE MAY BE SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW IF 'CAUSE HOURS COME UP, SO MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF SLOWING HOURS DOWN OURSELVES TO WATCH IT.
BUT WE APPRECIATE THAT INSIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE TO, UH, PART THREE, CONSIDERATION OF INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUESTS.
UM, STARTING WITH NUMBER ONE, MELISSA GARRETT.
SHE'S, UM, SHE WAS INVOLVED IN A HIT AND RUN COLLISION WITH INJURY AND SHE SENT A COMPLAINT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SHE COMPLAINED THAT THE PD WAS PROVIDED WITH A PICTURE OF THE SUSPECT'S VEHICLE, INCLUDING A LICENSE PLATE.
HOWEVER, NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION CITATIONS OR CHARGES WERE FILED.
A REVIEW OF THE POLICE REPORT DID SHOW THAT THE REPORT HAD THE SUSPECT VEHICLE LISTED, INCLUDING A LICENSE PLATE, BUT DID NOT HAVE A NAME SUSPECT.
AND THERE'S NO INDICATION IN THE POLICE REPORT THAT THERE WAS ANYBODY THAT COULD IDENTIFY THE SUSPECT DRIVER.
THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS REVIEWED THE COMPLAINT AND THEY REFERRED TO THE VEHICLE CRIMES UNIT.
UM, THE STATUS OF THE CASE, THE HIT AND RUN CASE CURRENTLY IS IT'S SUSPENDED AND DETECTIVE NOTES WERE SUPPLIED, WHICH INDICATED THAT THE DETECTIVE SUPPLIED THE SUSPECT'S POLICY NUMBER TO THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER.
UM, OCPO DID A PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THIS COMPLAINT AND INVESTIGATION AND SAW THAT THERE WERE NO POLICIES OR PROCEDURES VIOLATED.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF? FOR MELISSA GARRETT? ALL RIGHT, SO FOR THIS, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION JUST TO RECAP.
THE OCPO UH, CONDUCTED A PRELIMINARY REVIEW AND FOUND NO VIOLATIONS OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES OR PROCEEDING.
JUDGE LANDER DISTRICT EIGHT, I MOVE THAT, UH, WE, UM, ADHERE TO THE OFFICE'S RECOMMENDATION.
MOTION TO ACCEPT THE OFFICE RECOMMENDATION.
IS THERE A SECOND? LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.
ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? WE MOVE TO A VOTE.
DISTRICT TWO, UH, JONATHAN MAPLES.
DISTRICT THREE, JOHN GA HIGGINS.
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DISTRICT EIGHT.UH, MOVING FORWARD TO, UM, ITEM TWO, JAMAR JEFFERSON, AS YOU RECALL, JAMAR JEFFERSON DID SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, JAMAR JEFFERSON FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE PD REGARDING THE UNLAWFUL DETENTION AND ASSAULT OF HIS BROTHER LAMAR.
JEFFERSON JAMAR ALLEGED THAT THE DALLAS POLICE FAILED TO INITIATE ANY REPORT OR INVESTIGATION INTO THIS, UH, ASSAULT AND DETENTION OF HIS BROTHER.
UM, I DID FIND A POLICE REPORT ON THE INCIDENT.
THE REPORT DETAILS THAT DALLAS POLICE WERE WORKING A SECURITY DETAIL FOR CONGRESSWOMAN JASMINE CROCKETT.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OBSERVED A STRUGGLE BETWEEN JAMAR JEFFERSON AND A MEMBER OF CONGRESSMAN WOMAN'S, UM, CROCKETT'S DIGNITARY PROTECTION UNIT.
UM, THE OFFICERS ALSO OBSERVED A SECOND STRUGGLE BETWEEN, UH, LAMAR JEFFERSON AND THE SECURITY DETAIL FROM CONGRESSWOMAN, UH, CROCKETT.
UM, OFFICERS LEARNED THAT BOTH JAMAR AND LAMAR WERE THERE TRYING TO SERVE CONGRESSWOMAN CROCKETT A FEDERAL ORDER DUE TO ELECTION FRAUD.
LAMAR WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL.
BOTH JAMAR AND LAMAR COMPLAINED OF BEING CHOKED BY THE SECURITY DETAIL AND THEN DRAGGED OUT OF THE BUILDING ASSAULT DETECTIVE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, DETECTIVE EBERS RESPONDED TO THE HOSPITAL TO SPEAK WITH BOTH JAMAR AND LAMAR ON THIS INCIDENT.
THE DALLAS POLICE DETERMINED THAT THE VIDEO OF THE INCIDENT DID NOT MATCH UP WITH WHAT THE ALLEGATIONS MADE BY BOTH JAMAR AND LAMAR.
AND, UH, IN THE REPORT, IT NOTED THAT THERE WAS NO DIRECT SIGNS OF ASSAULT OR EXCESSIVE FORCE USED.
THIS WAS SENT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND THEY REVIEWED IT AND DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE NO POLICY OR DEPARTMENTAL, UM, VIOLATIONS.
UH, OCPO DID THEIR PRELIMINARY REVIEW AND WE AGREED THAT THERE WAS, UM, NO VIOLATIONS OF ANY DEPARTMENT POLICIES OR PROCEDURES.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF ON THE JAMAR JEFFERSON CASE? IF NOT, LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, DISTRICT FOUR.
I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE, UM, INVESTIGATIVE REPORT MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT GATE SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? NOT WE'LL GO TO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
DISTRICT TWO, JONATHAN MAPLES.
UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO STEP OUT FOR A SECOND.
AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO STEP OUT FOR A SECOND.
SO BOARD MEMBER FREEMAN'S, UH, EXCUSING HIMSELF.
SO NEXT WE HAVE, UM, NUMBER THREE.
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REFERENCE OF TRAFFIC STOP WHERE HE WAS CITED FOR EXPIRED REGISTRATION.HE NOTED IN THE COMPLAINT THAT OFFICERS SHOULD BE MORE CALMED DOWN AND RESPECT PEOPLE IN A GOOD FORMAL WAY.
AND HE ALSO BELIEVED HE COULD HAVE RECEIVED A VERBAL WARNING INSTEAD OF THE CITATION, UH, BODY-WORN CAMERA.
THE VEHICLE STOP WAS REALLY UNEVENTFUL.
UH, THERE'S NOTHING UNUSUAL FROM THE OFFICER.
NOTHING UNUSUAL FROM THE DRIVER.
INTERNAL AFFAIRS REVIEWED THIS AND DETERMINED THAT THIS IS A GUILT OR INNOCENCE CASE AND THAT THEY DO NOT INVESTIGATE, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES DISPUTES REGARDING AN ARREST OR CITATION.
UM, OCPO REVIEWED AND FOUND NO VIOLATIONS OF DEPARTMENT POLICIES OR PROCEDURES.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF FOR CHAVEZ'S CASE? IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SO THE, THE OFFICER INVOLVED, UM, I'M LOOKING FOR THE CORRECT NAME.
UH, OFFICER CAMACHO DID NOT, HE WASN'T RUDE OR DISRESPECTFUL OR WHATEVER WORDS YOU WANNA USE WITH THIS, UM, COMPLAINANT? NO.
LIKE I SAID, WHEN I WATCHED THE BODY-WORN CAMERA, IT LOOKED VERY UNEVENTFUL.
LIKE IF YOU JUST WATCHED IT, I WOULDN'T SEE THERE WAS A PROBLEM FROM EITHER SIDE.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT THIS COMPLAINT WAS MADE AND WE DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUE.
AND IT, I THINK IT, I'M JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE IT REPRESENTS, UM, JUST PEOPLE'S CONCERNS GENERALLY ABOUT OFFICERS, EVEN IF THIS SITUATION IS, WAS COMPLETELY FINE, WHICH IT SEEMS TO BE.
UM, I'M ALSO INTERESTED THAT HE FIGURED OUT THAT WE EXIST AND HE SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT.
SO, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
PEOPLE ARE, ARE RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS A VEHICLE TO HAVE FURTHER, UM, CONSIDERATION OF THEIR CASE.
SO I GUESS I'M JUST, UM, IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION, IT'S MORE JUST RESTATING SOME OF THE FACTS.
UM, AND I'M, I'M GLAD THE OFFICER WAS, WAS POLITE AND DID ALL THE RIGHT THINGS AND THAT HE DIDN'T FIND ME ON THE DAY THAT I HAD AN EXPIRED TAG, UM, IN THE PAST.
UM, BECAUSE THAT IS CERTAINLY A REASON TO PULL SOMEONE OVER ANYWAY.
DID I HEAR THE, UM, DIRECTOR SAY THAT WE'VE HAD 1001 COMPLAINTS OVER THE COURSE OF, UH, I KNOW I CAUGHT YOU EATING, I'M SORRY.
UH, 1001 COMPLAINTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST MONTH? NO, NOT THE LAST MONTH.
THE WHOLE PHYSICAL YEAR SO FAR.
SO FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS.
YOU MEAN FROM SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER PRESENT.
WELL, THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT, A THOUSAND COMPLAINTS OVER THAT TIME SHOWS THAT WE WE'RE GETTING TO BE KNOWN.
CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CHAVEZ? SO MOVED.
I MOVE THAT, UH, WE ACCEPT THE OFFICER'S DETERMINATION ON THE CHAVEZ MATTER AND, UH, I GUESS DISMISS IT.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? EXCEPT THE FINDINGS? EXCEPT THE FINDINGS.
UM, AND THESE ARE MAYBE INVESTIGATOR HUFF.
YOU JUST MAYBE START OFF EXPLAINING.
THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE ONES FOR RAYMOND SIMMONS.
SO THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE OCCURRED BACK ON MAY 5TH.
UM, HE'S COMPLAINING ABOUT AN INTERACTION HE HAD WITH POLICE WHEN HE WAS DOING AN OPEN CARRY AT THE BANK OF AMERICA IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS HERE.
UM, SIMMONS STATED THAT THE OFFICER WHO TOLD HIM HE WAS GOING TO ARREST HIM AND THEN TOW HIS CAR, HAD VIOLATED HIS CONSTITUTIONAL
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RIGHTS.UM, A REVIEW OF THE BODY-WORN CAMERA SHOWED THAT, UH, RAYMOND SIMMONS WAS DOING SOME TYPE OF PROTEST IN FRONT OF THE BANK OF AMERICA.
HE HAD A SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLE ON HIS SLING OVER HIS SHOULDER, AND HE WAS CARRYING A SIGN THAT STATED, ALL COPS SUCK MY DICK.
UM, DURING THE INTERACTION, HE WAS ADVISED BY A BANK OF AMERICA OFFICIAL NOT TO BE ON THE BANK OF AMERICA PROPERTY.
THE POLICE OFFICER THERE DID ADVISE MR. SIMMONS THAT HE WOULD BE TRESPASSED IF HE WENT ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND ANOTHER OFFICER DID ADVISE MR. SIMMONS TO MOVE HIS VEHICLE IF IT WAS ON THE BANK OF AMERICA PROPERTY OR IT WOULD BE TOWED.
INTERNAL AFFAIRS REVIEWED THIS AND CAME WITH A DETERMINATION OF NO IN VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES OR PROCEDURES AND OCPO REVIEWED IT AND CAME WITH THE SIGNED FINDING THAT THERE IS NO, UM, ANY VIOLATIONS OF A DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES OR PROCEDURES.
LET'S JUST DO BOTH OF THESE TOGETHER IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
ANY OBJECTION, ANY QUESTIONS FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF ON MR. SIMMONS? TWO CASES 0 4 5 3 AND 0 4 6 5.
I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE FINDINGS FOR, FOR BOTH.
UM, SO THIS IS A VOTE FOR BOTH 0 4 5 3.
UM, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A RECORDING SHEET, IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERING VOTE ON A OR B, LET ME KNOW, BUT OTHERWISE I WILL EX IF YOUR VOTE IS YAY, I'LL SAY A YAY FOR BOTH BASED ON THE MOTION.
OH, ABSENT, UH, DISTRICT 14 IS EXCUSED.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR EXPEDITING THAT ONE.
UH, INVESTIGATOR HUFF WITH, UH, THE LAST, UH, THE WILLIAMS CASE.
UM, NIAH WILLIAMS FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND A REMINDER SHE DID SPEAK AT THE OPEN, UH, MIC PORTION OF THE MEETING HERE.
UH, SHE REPORTED THAT DETECTIVE HATCH WAS INVOLVED IN COERCION FALSE REPORTING, OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE AND GROSS NEGLIGENCE.
AND SHE ADVISED THIS OCCURRED IN TWO DIFFERENT INCIDENTS.
ONE WAS IN THE YEAR 2020, AND THE OTHER WAS IN THE YEAR 2022.
IN THE 2020 INCIDENT, SHE ADVISED SHE WAS A VICTIM OF AN ATTEMPTED MURDER.
HOWEVER, THE CASE WAS CATEGORIZED AS AN AGGRAVATED ASSAULT WITH SERIOUS BODILY INJURY AND EVIDENCE RELATED TO THIS CASE WAS SEIZED BUT NEVER RETURNED.
AND THE POLICE REPORT INACCURATELY STATED THAT WILLIAMS ADMITTED TO PROSTITUTION AND CLAIMED THAT SHE DID NOT PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE SHOOTER.
AND DURING THE SECOND INCIDENT IN 2022, UH, WILLIAMS WAS ARRESTED AND ADVISED THAT DETECTIVE HATCH VIOLATED HER RIGHTS BY COERCING A STATEMENT FROM HER WHEN SHE WAS NOT ADVISED OF HER RIGHTS.
UH, THE POLICE REPORT FROM THE 2020 INCIDENT SHOWED THAT THERE WAS A SHOOTING AND IT WAS LISTED AS AN ASSAULT RESULTING IN SERIOUS BODILY INJURY.
UM, IT SHOWED THAT WILLIAMS WAS THE VICTIM AND THE SUSPECT REMAINS UNKNOWN.
AND SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WERE SEIZED MAY HAVE BELONGED TO WILLIAMS. THEY WERE LISTED AS A BLUE NECK PILLOW, A BLACK JACKET, A CELL PHONE, A LOUIS VUITTON BAG, AND A SHOE, AND $160 IN CASH.
AND THAT REPORT ALSO DETAILED A WITNESS THAT DESCRIBED THE INCIDENT AS INVOLVING PROSTITUTION.
THE SECOND REPORT FROM 2022 WAS A REPORT FOR MANIFESTING FOR PROSTITUTION.
AND IT DETAILED THE ARREST OF WILLIAMS FOR THAT CHARGE.
AND THIS REPORT DOES NOT SHOW A STATEMENT FROM WILLIAMS. INTERNAL AFFAIRS REVIEWED THE COMPLAINT AND THEY DID NOT INVESTIGATE IT DUE TO THE
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PROPOSED GUILT OR INNOCENCE OF A CASE.UM, THE OCPO DIDN'T REALLY, UM, AGREE WITH THAT FINDING BY INTERNAL AFFAIRS BECAUSE HER COMPLAINT WASN'T REALLY ABOUT BEING INNOCENT OR GUILTY.
SHE WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE CONDUCT OF THE OFFICERS.
HOWEVER, OCPO FOUND THAT THIS COMPLAINT WAS FILED SIX 60 DAYS AFTER THE INCIDENT, OVER 60 DAYS AFTER THE INCIDENT.
IT WAS OBVIOUSLY TWO AND A HALF AND FIVE YEARS, UM, OVER, UM, BUT HOWEVER, WILLIAMS ADVISED THAT SHE FILED IT LATE 'CAUSE SHE DID NOT FEEL IT WAS SAFE TO FILE THE COMPLAINT UNTIL SHE WAS ABLE TO GET OUT OF SEX TRAFFICKING.
SO JUDGE LANDARD DIS DISTRICT EIGHT.
DID THE, UM, OFFICE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? UH, WE JUST RECOMMEND THAT THIS NOT BE INVESTIGATED 'CAUSE IT, IT VIOLATED THE, UH, THE POLICY OF THE 60 DAY FILING RULE BECAUSE OF THE TIME.
UM, MR. HUFF, IS THERE ANYTHING, DO WE HAVE ANY OPTIONS AT ALL? DO WE HAVE ANY OPTIONS AS FAR AS INVESTIGATION? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE COMPLAINANT CAN DO, UH, UM, AFTER THE, SINCE IT'S BEYOND THE 60 DAYS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU, UH, AS THE OFFICE KNOW OF THAT SHE COULD DO TO, UH, HAVE THIS COMPLAINT LOOKED AT? OH, I MEAN, SHE PROVIDES A REASON.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S EXCEPTION FOR THAT RULE.
IF, IF IT'S A VALID, IF YOU FEEL IT'S A VALID REASON FOR FILING IT LATE.
BUT THAT'S UP TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT UP TO, UH, THE OFFICE.
WELL, IF I CAN JUMP IN, I THINK WHAT'S UP TO US, IF WE VOTE FOR AN INVESTIGATION BY THE OFFICE, THEY WILL CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION.
NOW, I BELIEVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ITS POLICY OF THE 60 DAYS.
UM, I THINK WE AS A BOARD CAN MAKE AN EXCEPTION, UM, TO THAT SAME 60 DAY POLICY FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION BY OUR INVESTIGATOR.
WE'RE VOTING TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION OR NOT CONDUCT WELL, THAT'S WHATEVER THE MOTION THAT GOES FORWARD.
UM, SO OUR, OUR THE REQUEST YOU WE'RE ASKING HERE IS WHETHER TO CONDUCT THE INVESTIGATION BY THE OFFICE OR WHETHER OR NOT TO CONDUCT ONE.
AND FOR THE RECORD, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THE COMPLAINANT WAS SAYING THAT DUE TO, I GUESS, FEAR OF STILL BEING IN A, IN THE SEX TRAFFIC INDUSTRY IS WHY THERE WAS A DELAY, SUCH A DELAY IN FILING THE COMPLAINT.
I MOVE THAT WE INVESTIGATE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES THERE WERE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAUSED THE DELAY AND THAT WE WAIVE THE 60 DAYS.
JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO Y SECOND.
PROBABLY MOVED AND SECOND, UH, OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
REMEMBER D WADSWORTH DISTRICT 12.
YOU KNOW WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THESE MATTERS SEEM TO BE ABOUT GUILT OR INNOCENCE AND NOT THE OFFICER CONDUCT, BUT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SHE SAYS THAT SHE WASN'T ADVISED OF HER RIGHTS.
I, YOU KNOW, INTERNAL AFFAIRS HAS ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT AND IT IS TOO LATE.
AND SHE PROVIDED NO EVIDENCE OF WHY IT WAS TOO LATE.
SHE GIVES A JUST A STATEMENT WITH NO DOCUMENTATION OF ANYTHING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DISCUSSION, UH, BOARD MEMBER? UH, BA UH, BRIAN BA, DISTRICT FIVE.
UH, I HAD A QUESTION FOR, UH, MR. HUFF.
UH, SO IS IT CORRECT THAT SHE NEVER GOT HER POSSESSIONS BACK? I'M, I'M ASSUMING IT WAS THROUGH CIVIL FORFEITURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT KEPT, KEPT HER MONEY AND, UH, OTHER ITEMS? UM, I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY STILL HAVE THE EVIDENCE.
IT COULD JUST STILL BE CONNECTED TO A CRIME.
AND THE CRIME IS THAT CASE IS STILL OPEN 'CAUSE IT'S NOT SOLVED.
THAT'S JUST ONE EXPLANATION, BUT I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHY THEY WOULD STILL HAVE IT.
IS THE CASE STILL OPEN THAT THAT WAS, I'M SORRY.
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GO AHEAD.BOARD MEMBER PA OH, I ACTUALLY, THAT THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION BY MR. HOFF.
CASE WAS STILL MR. LANDS, IS THE CASE STILL OPEN TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
IT WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED OPEN 'CAUSE IT'S NOT SOLVED.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I I HAVE A, MAYBE A QUESTION OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I SEE BOTH PERSPECTIVES OF, THIS IS A LONG TIME AGO, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE A PERSON EVERY OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY IF THIS IS A PERSON THAT IS, UM, VULNERABLE AND, AND DEALING WITH QUITE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IT, IT'S HARD TO KNOW, UM, WHAT WE'RE INVESTIGATING.
UH, I GUESS THE, THAT THE RIGHTS WEREN'T READ.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT SHE WOULD WANT US TO INVESTIGATE, BUT PERHAPS THAT'S OUR ROLE AS THE CITIZEN GROUP IS TO GIVE THAT EXTRA OPPORTUNITY SO CITIZENS FEEL LIKE THEY REALLY, REALLY DO HAVE A VOICE.
I GUESS THAT'S MY STATEMENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
WERE YOU ASKING INVESTIGATOR HUFF IF HE HAD THOUGHTS ON THAT OR? I MEAN, IF HE HAS ANY COMMENTS HE CAN.
IT'S MORE OF A, I JUST, I THINK THAT IS THE ROLE.
ONE OF THE ROLES OF THIS GROUP IS TO MAKE SURE WE DO PROVIDE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, EVERY EXTRA OPPORTUNITY THAT CAN BE GIVEN SO THAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A VOICE AND A, A WAY TO HAVE THEIR PERCEIVED, UM, GRIEVANCE HEARD.
AND, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT HERE TO DECIDE THE GUILT OR INNOCENCE OF HER OR OTHER SIT OTHER PARTS OF, IT'S A WEIRD SITUATION.
UM, BUT, UM, AND, AND DEE'S POINT IS, IT'S A LONG TIME AGO.
LAUREN'S POINT IS SHE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE AN EXTRA VOICE AND THAT'S WHERE THIS GROUP CAN STEP UP AND GIVE HER THAT VOICE.
SO JUST, I'M REALLY GOOD AT MAKING COMMENTS AND NOT QUESTIONS.
BUT THAT, THAT'S JUST MY COMMENT.
I I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SERVE CHAIRMAN.
UM, INTERNAL AFFAIRS SAID PER OUR POLICY, INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION DOES NOT INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS RELATING TO PROPOSED GUILT OR INNOCENCE OF A CASE, INCLUDING DISPUTES REGARDING AN ARREST OR CITATION.
SHE'S MAKING AN ASSERTION THAT HER RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS HAS REPLIED BACK TO HER.
THIS IS A PENDING CASE, WHICH MEANS IT'S A LEGAL ISSUE, NOT A POLICY ISSUE.
I KNOW IT'S UNSOLVED, BUT BRIAN B, DISTRICT FIVE.
SO THIS IS MORE OF A GENERAL QUESTION, BUT FOR SITUATIONS THAT SEEM LIKE THAT THEY COULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR MEDIATION, IS DO WE HAVE A PATH OF TRYING TO RECOMMEND CASES LIKE THAT, UM, IN THAT DIRECTION? I KNOW IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO, UH, BOTH THE COMPLAINANT AND TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IF THEY WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.
BASED ON THE, WHAT WE DISCUSSED AND HOW WE ENVISION MEDIATION, THIS WOULD NOT BE ONE THAT FIT THE BILL FOR, UM, MEDIATION.
UH, MEDIATION IS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR CASES THAT WERE KIND OF DIFFERENCES OF AGREEMENT, VERY MINOR POLICY VIOLATIONS.
WE DIDN'T SEE ANY POLICY VIOLATIONS AT ALL IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
SO, AND THAT IN ITSELF WOULD TAKE IT OUT OF MEDIATION REALM.
ANY OTHER MAJOR GREER TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? IS THIS STATE, IS THIS CASE STILL OPEN? IS TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE? UM, JUST BASED ON THE, OUR NOTES THAT WE HAVE, THE CASE IS STILL PENDING FOR PENDING FURTHER LEADS.
SO, UH, WHAT MR. HUFF SAID IS CORRECT.
IF WE HADN'T SOLVED THE CASE, THEN IT'S NOT CLOSED.
IT'LL REMAIN OPEN FOR, UH, JUST AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE.
AND, AND SO THE PROPERTY THAT SHE HAS IS STILL BEING HELD AND, UH, IT CAN BE IDENTIFIED AND ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I HADN'T CHECKED ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IF IT WAS PART, IF IT WAS PART OF EVIDENCE THAT WAS COLLECTED AS A RESULT OF THIS CRIME, IT'S UH, PROBABLY STILL THERE IN THE PROPERTY ROOM BECAUSE IT'S STILL OPEN CASE.
'CAUSE MY MY CONCERN IS THAT SHE DOESN'T JUST HAVE ONE ALLEGATION OF, UM, SHE HAS THREE AND ONE OF 'EM IS LOSS OF PROPERTY.
AND I KNOW HOW I WOULD FEEL IF, YOU KNOW, MY MONEY WAS TAKEN AND HELD FOR FIVE YEARS
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WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT HAPPENED TO IT.BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THIS CASE IS STILL OPEN AND THERE'S COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMPLAINANT.
I KNOW THE LAST TIME THE COMMUNICATION WAS TAKING PLACE BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT OUR NOTES HERE, WHEN WE MADE THE NOTES BACK IN, UH, WHEN WE REVIEWED THE CASE, SHOWS THE CASES SUSPENDED PENDING FURTHER LEADS, UH, SUSPENDED PEN, PENDING FURTHER LEADS.
BUT NOTHING'S BEING DONE ON IT.
UM, JUST PENDING FURTHER LEADS UNLESS SOMETHING COMES ABOUT YEP.
OR SOMETHING COMES NEW INFORMATION.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT IS BEING OFFERED BY THE OFFICE HAS TO DO WITH WHETHER WE SHOULD REOPEN.
I'M, I'M LOSING MY LOSING TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE.
SO IF WE GO BACK, I, I THINK IN THE, UM, IN THE DOCUMENT, INVESTIGATOR HUFF DID NOT SEE OR KIND OF, I GUESS AGREED WITH, UH, DPD, BASICALLY HIS FINDINGS WERE SIMILAR AND THAT 60 DAYS HAD PASSED.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY POLICY VIOLATION.
UH, I THINK WHAT WAS BEFORE THE BOARD IS WE STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF WE SO WANT TO, AS A BOARD, TO HAVE AN INVESTIGATION CONDUCTED BY THE OFFICE.
AND SO THE MOTION THAT HAS BEEN PLACED AND WA WAIVED THE 60 DAYS BASICALLY YES.
BASED ON THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.
CAN WE DO THAT ON A CASE THAT'S OPEN? THANK YOU.
CAN WE DO THAT ON A CASE THAT'S OPEN? ALRIGHT.
CITY ATTORNEY, WHERE YOU AT? WHERE YOU AT? COUNSEL, YOU'RE STILL HERE.
YOU'VE BEEN RELATIVELY SILENT TODAY, SIR.
YES, YOU CAN, BECAUSE THE QUESTION, SO ULTIMATELY THE MOTION IS DIRECTING, UH, THE OFFICE TO DO THE INVESTIGATION AND THE HOW DID MAJOR DESCRIBE IT, UH, SUSPENDED, PENDING FURTHER, UM, LEADS, THANK YOU.
UM, THAT WHAT'S BEING ALLEGED IS NOT TO, WHAT'S BEING ALLEGED IS NOT THE CRIME OR GUILT OR INNOCENCE, IT'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICIES.
SO D DOES THAT ANSWER, DOES THAT GIVE YOU SOME, DOES THAT, DOES THAT HELP JUDGE? THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT ANSWERS ANYBODY ELSE'S.
SO I GUESS IT'S WITH THE CASE BEING OPEN AND KIND OF IN SUSPENSE UNTIL OTHER LEADS, WE'RE NOT JUMPING IN FRONT OF THAT, THAT WILL STILL TAKE ITS COURSE OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DECIDES TO DO.
OUR INVESTIGATION WILL MORE OR LESS LOOK AT ADMINISTRATIVELY WHAT HAS OCCURRED, UH, TO MRS. WILLIAMS, CORRECT? YEAH.
IF THOSE LEADS MATERIALIZE, THAT DPD WILL MOVE FORWARD, CORRECT? YES.
SO ANY OTHER, I KNOW THIS, THIS ONE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR US, SO I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE INSIGHT.
SO WE'RE HAVING SOME EXCEPTIONS TO CERTAIN POLICIES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? SO THE, THE MOTION, LET ME SEE IF I CAN
THE MOTION IS FOR THE OFFICE TO CONDUCT AN, UH, INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FOR THE CASE BASED ON THE EXCEPTION RULE TO THE 60 DAYS BASED ON THE, THE, THE COMPLAINANT'S, UH, STATED CAUSE OR REASON.
ALRIGHT,
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA DO A ROLL CALL.
DIDN'T WE GET A SECOND? WHO SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
DISTRICT 12 D WADSWORTH DISTRICT 12? NO, DISTRICT 13 IS ABSENT.
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DISTRICT 14 IS STILL EXCUSED.UH, SO THE, THE BOARD HAS VOTED TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, UH, FOR THE WILLIAMS CASE.
ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT, SORRY, I LOST MY DOCUMENT HERE.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S, UM, ALL OF OUR INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUESTS.
NOW WE'LL TURN TO, UM, OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS IN LIEU OF TIME.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE REPORTS? OKAY.
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO POLICY ANALYST REPORT.
UM, PAUL ANALYST SIERRA OBASI.
DID I GET CLOSER? CLOSE ENOUGH.
I WE'RE GONNA WORK ON IT AFTERWARDS.
WE'RE GONNA CLOSE ENOUGH, BUT I MESSED IT UP.
AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA, SINCE THESE ARE BOTH, UH, THE SAME BILL, WE'RE GONNA, UH, ADDRESS THESE AT THE SAME TIME.
ON MONDAY, JULY 21ST, 2025, GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT ANNOUNCED THE FIRST SPECIAL SESSION OF THE 89 TEXAS LEGISLATURE.
LEGISLATORS WILL HAVE 30 DAYS TO ADDRESS THE 18 PRIORITIES SET BY THE BY GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S AGENDA, WHICH MEANS IT'S SCHEDULED TO CONCLUDE BY AUGUST 19TH, 2025.
THE SPECIAL SESSION DIFFERS FROM A REGULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN BOTH PURPOSE AND PACE AND THE REGULAR SESSION.
LAWMAKERS HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO INTRODUCE AND DEBATE A WIDE RANGE OF LEGISLATION AND THE SPECIAL SESSION GOVERNOR ABBOTT EXCLUSIVELY SETS THE AGENDA, WHICH IS MORE NARROWLY FOCUSED AND MOVES QUICKER.
SIMILAR TO THE REGULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I WILL HIGHLIGHT LEGISLATION THAT WILL IMPACT POLICE OVERSIGHT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AS THOSE BILLS PROGRESS.
THE FOLLOWING ARE A FEW HIGHLIGHTED BILLS THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS INCLUDED IN HIS PRIORITY AGENDA, SENATE BILL 14, WHICH RELATES TO CERTAIN FILES MAINTAINED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY REGARDING CERTAIN EMPLOYEES OF THE AGENCY, WHICH I'LL BRIEF YOU ON SHORTLY AND IS, AND ITS IDENTICAL COMPANION BILL HOUSE BILL 14.
THAT CONCLUDES MY SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.
AND ON THE NEXT PAGE IS SENATE BILL 14 BRIEFING MEMO.
THIS MEMO PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF SENATE BILL 14, WHICH AIMS TO ESTABLISH CLEAR, CLEAR GUIDELINES REGARDING THE MAINTENANCE, ACCESSIBILITY, AND CONFIDENTIALITY OF DEPARTMENT FILES CONTAINING INFORMATION RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT LICENSE HOLDER.
AND AS YOU KNOW, LICENSE HOLDERS ARE INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS WHO HOLD A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER LICENSE ISSUE BY THE T TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT.
A FEW KEY PROVISIONS ARE THE DEFINITION OF A DEPARTMENT FILE.
SB 14 DEFINES IT AS A RECORD MAINTAINED BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY FOR EACH LICENSE HOLDER.
IT EMPLOYS THE FILE IS MAINTAINED BY THE HEAD OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR A DESIGNEE WHO MUST MAINTAIN A DEPARTMENT FILE SEPARATE FROM THE PERSONNEL FILES, MAINTAIN UNDER EXISTING POLICIES IN THE TEXAS OCCUPATION CODE SECTION 1701 0.4535.
THE CONTENTS OF A DEPARTMENT FILE INCLUDES LETTERS, MEMOS, OR DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE LICENSE HOLDER THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN A PERSONNEL FILE, SUCH AS RECORDS OF ALLEGED MISCONDUCT, WHERE INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE EXISTS TO SUSTAIN A CHARGE OF MISCONDUCT OR CONFIDENTIAL CORRESPONDENCE.
WHEREAS A PERSONNEL FILE INCLUDES THE OFFICER'S OFFICIAL EMPLOYMENT FILE, LIKE EMPLOYMENT APPLICATIONS, TRAINING RECORDS, PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS, DISCIPLINARY ACTION THAT HAS BEEN SUSTAINED, AND ANY OTHER EMPLOYMENT DOCUMENTS REQUIRED BY THE AGENCY'S ADOPTED PERSONNEL POLICY.
THE ACCESS TO DEPARTMENT FILES ONLY INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT HIRING AGENCIES, THE TEXAS COMMISSION AND LAW ENFORCEMENT DURING INVESTIGATIONS ACCESS DURING CRIMINAL AND LEGAL PROCEEDINGS WHERE FILES ARE SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE UNDER ARTICLE 39 14 OF THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, WHICH REQUIRES PROSECUTION TO DISCLOSE RELEVANT MATERIALS FROM AN OFFICER DEPARTMENT FILE TO THE DEFENSE UPON REQUEST.
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ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH AUTHORIZES INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS OF DEATH OCCURRING IN COUNTY JAILS AND A MEET AND CONFER AGREEMENTS UNDER PRE-EXISTING AGREEMENTS EXECUTED BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025.SEP SENATE BILLS 14 ALSO CLASSIFIES AN OFFICER'S DEPARTMENT FILE AS CONFIDENTIAL AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO PUBLIC DISCLOSURE UNDER THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATIONS ACT.
IF ENACTED, SB 14 WOULD RESTRICT THE SCOPE OF ACCESS TO OFFICER RELATED RECORDS BY REQUIRING POLICE DEPARTMENTS WITH A CIVIL SERVICE RULE STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ESTABLISH A SEPARATE CONFIDENTIAL DEPARTMENT FILE FOR EACH LICENSE HOLDER.
ACCESS TO THESE FILES WILL BE LIMITED TO HIRING HIRING AGENCIES T COLE, DURING INVESTIGATIONS AND UNDER CERTAIN LEGAL PROVISIONS, SPECIFICALLY SENATE BILL 14 WOULD PROHIBIT CERTAIN ACCESS TO RECORDS OF UNSUBSTANTIATED MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS THAT MAY HOLD RELEVANCE IN IDENTIFYING PATTERNS OF BEHAVIOR.
THIS PRESENTS A STRUCTURAL BARRIER TO THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARDS FULFILLING ITS OVERSIGHT MANDATE.
THE BOARD'S ABILITY TO REVIEW AND REASSESS PRIOR COMPLAINTS, PARTICULARLY THOSE PREVIOUSLY DEEMED UNSUSTAINED MAY BE PROHIBITED EVEN IN CASES WHERE NEW EVIDENCE EMERGES OR A SUSTAINED FINDING IS LATER WARRANTED.
WE DID PROVIDE AN AMENDMENT TO OUR LEGISLATORS AND AS OF LAST NIGHT, THE SENATE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE VOTED SENATE BILL 14 OUT OF COMMITTEE AND REPORTED IT FAVORABLY AS SUBSTITUTED.
WE ARE STILL ASSESSING THE NEWLY ADOPTED COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTES IMPLICATIONS AND WILL CONTINUE TO UPDATE YOU AS THE BILL PROGRESSES.
ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, SO I JUST
THERE HAS BEEN A COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTED THAT WAS ADOPTED AND WE'RE STILL ASSESSING THOSE IMPLICATIONS.
BUT WE DID PROVIDE AN AMENDMENT, UM, THAT WOULD GRANT US THAT ACCESS.
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOUR AMENDMENT WAS ACCEPTED OR NOT? FROM MY, FROM MY KNOWLEDGE IT, WE, IT HAS NOT BEEN ACCEPTED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT JONATHAN MAPLES DISTRICT TWO.
SO IN LISTENING TO YOU AND LISTENING TO THEM, I HEARD COMPLETE IMMUNITY.
DID YOU REPEAT THAT? OKAY, I'M SAYING THIS IS RECORDED
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
'CAUSE SENATE BILL 14, IN MY OPINION, IMMUNIZES THE, UH, OFFICERS FROM HAVING TO HAVE ANY OF THEIR INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US, WHICH BOTHERS ME GREATLY.
UM, SO I'M GLAD WE HAD AN AMENDMENT, BUT I'M DON'T KNOW.
AND I'M DISAPPOINTED IF I, IF IT THE AMENDMENT WAS NOT ACCEPTED, I'M DISAPPOINTED.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE AMENDMENT WAS ACCEPTED OR NOT, CLAIRE OR DEEP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR POLICY? YEAH, IT'S CLEAR.
ALL WE'RE NOT GETTING PAID FOR THIS.
DO I BE FEAR OF GETTING LAID OFF
WELL, YOU COULD STILL HAVE THAT FEAR.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, BUT I KNOW LOOK IN THE MIRROR LATELY.
I JUST HAVE JENNY KING, DISTRICT 10.
THIS IS IN THE CURRENT SPECIAL SESSION.
THEY BROUGHT THIS BILL UP, CORRECT? IT WAS, UH, IDENTICAL TO THE SENATE BILL 7 81 THAT I WAS REFERENCING LAST LEGISLATIVE OR THE REGULAR LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU ALL.
AND YOU, YOU ALL WERE VERY HELPFUL TO PROVIDE EDUCATION TO THE ELECTEDS ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT BILL.
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STILL PURSUING THIS, SO THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING.WE WILL MOVE ON IN OUR AGENDA.
UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REPORT IS ALMA, ALMA PEREZ, PEREZ AND WALDER GUERRERO.
GOOD EVENING CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS AND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
UH, MY NAME IS ALMA PEREZ, SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST.
UM, JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON RECENT AND ALSO UPCOMING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH EFFORTS.
THESE INITIATIVES REFLECT OUR ONGOING COMMITMENT TO FOSTERING TRUST, TRANSPARENCY, AND MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
TO BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT AN EVENT WE HOSTED ON JUNE 26TH, OUR MEET AND GREET WITH DIRECTOR ANDRE GATHERING, UH, AT THE WILLIE B. JOHNSON RECREATION CENTER, LOCATED IN HAMILTON PARK IN DISTRICT 10.
UM, THIS EVENT CREATED A WELCOMING SPACE FOR RESIDENTS TO ENGAGE DIRECTLY WITH DIRECTOR MICHELLE ANDRE, ASK QUESTIONS AND LEARN, LEARN MORE ABOUT THE WORK AND MISSION OF OUR OFFICE.
I WANT TO EXTEND A SINCERE THANK YOU TO BOARD MEMBER JENNIFER KING, FOR HELPING TO COORDINATE AND SUPPORT THIS EVENT.
YOUR EFFORTS MADE A REAL IMPACT AND WE ARE TRULY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP IN JULY, DIRECTOR ANDRE AND I HAD THE HONOR OF PARTICIPATING IN RUN FOR THE BLUE 2025 DALLAS.
THIS ANNUAL EVENT PAYS TRIBUTE TO THE FIVE OFFICERS WHO WERE TRAGICALLY LOST, UH, WHO TRAGICALLY LOST OUR LIVES IN THE LINE OF DUTY ON JULY 7TH, 2016.
IT'S A POWERFUL MOMENT OF REMEMBRANCE AND UNITY THAT BRINGS OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO REFLECT AND STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THOSE WHO SERVE AND PROTECT.
WALKING ALONGSIDE FAMILIES, OFFICERS, COMMUNITY ADVOCATES, AND FELLOW RESIDENTS WAS DEEPLY MOVING AND WE WERE PROUD TO REPRESENT OCPO IN THAT SHARED MOMENT OF REFLECTION.
LOOKING AHEAD, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE IN THE PLANNING STATIONS, UH, PLANNING STAGES, EXCUSE ME, FOR THE FOURTH ANNUAL D LOLAS CANCER AWARENESS 5K SCHEDULED FOR SUNDAY, OCTOBER 5TH AT BACHMAN LAKE PARK IN DISTRICT SIX.
THIS EVENT IS IN, IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NONPROFIT D LOLAS DALLAS POLICE UNIDOS, AND THE NORTHWEST PATROL DIVISION.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST A 5K, IT'S A DAY FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY CONNECTION, HEALTH AWARENESS, AND SUPPORT FOR A MEANINGFUL CAUSE.
WE WARMLY INVITE YOU ALL TO ATTEND NOT ONLY FOR THE 5K, BUT ALSO FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY FAIR THAT WILL FOLLOW.
IT WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE IMPORTANT RESOURCES AND CONTINUE BUILDING BRIDGES BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERS.
WE'RE ALSO EXCITED TO SHARE THAT OUR OFFICE HAS DE DESIGNED A-C-P-O-B OUTREACH BANNER, WHICH WILL BEGIN USING AT COMMUNITY EVENTS TO ENHANCE OUR VISIBILITY AND PUBLIC PRESENCE.
LASTLY, FOR YOUR REFERENCE, THE JUNE AND JULY, 2026 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENT LOG IS INCLUDED AS AN ATTACHMENT TO TODAY'S MEETING AGENDA.
PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REVIEW THEM AT YOUR CONVENIENCE.
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OUR OUTREACH WORK.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING MORE IN THE COMING MONTHS.
AS ALWAYS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET INVOLVED OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS AND ESTEEMED CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ATTENDING TONIGHT.
I'M THE COMMUNICATION ADVISOR FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
IT'S TRULY A JOY FOR ME TO JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF REPORT OF OUR LATEST NEWSLETTER.
IT'S OUR, IN FACT, IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S OUR SECOND INSTALLMENT THAT WE'VE HAD.
THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE, OVERSIZED JUNIOR LETTER JUNE NEWSLETTER ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATED A REALLY STRONG AUDIENCE ENGAGEMENT ACHIEVING A 45.6% OPEN RATE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS ACTUALLY 2020 9%, AND THAT'S THE AVERAGE THERE, WHICH WAS WELL ABOVE THE TYPICAL BENCHMARKS FOR PUBLIC, UH, SECTOR COMMUNICATIONS.
OUT OF THE 360 EMAILS THAT WERE SENT, 333 WERE ACTUALLY SUCCESSFULLY DELIVERED, RESULTING
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IN 152 OPENS AND 3% CLICK THROUGH RATE.ENGAGEMENT WAS DRIVEN PRIMARILY BY DESKTOP USERS AT AN 87.6% WITH MOBILE DEVICES ACCOUNTING FOR 12.4% OF OPENS.
NOW WHILE READERSHIP IS HIGH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE LINK CLICKS AND MOBILE ENGAGEMENT THROUGH TARGETED CONTENT STRATEGIES IN FUTURE ADDITIONS.
UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS OUR PREVIOUS CLICK RATE WAS ACTUALLY A 30%, AND THIS, WE HAD A, A DROP, AND THAT ALWAYS, UH, FLUCTUATES DEPENDING ON THE CONTENT.
SO SOMETIMES WE'LL HAVE CLICKABLE CONTENT AND SOMETIMES, UH, WE WON'T.
SO THAT'LL BE A FLUCTUATION THROUGHOUT.
SO OUR OVERALL, OUR NEWSLETTER IS DOING REALLY WELL, ESPECIALLY IN ITS INFANCY AND LAUNCH.
AND OUR NEXT INSTALLATION WILL BE IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE ALL BEEN ENJOYING THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN SENDING OUT.
UH, THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN RECEPTIVE ABOUT IT, AND IT'S BEEN, UH, IT'S BEEN A GREAT JOY TO SEE THAT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THAT UP AT THIS TIME.
JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? THE CLICK THROUGH RATE WAS? THE CLICK THROUGH RATE WAS 3% AND THE PRIOR WAS 30.7%.
UM, I KNOW WE'RE SAVING THE TREES.
UM, IS, IS, IS, UM, IS THAT NEWSLETTER GOING OUT TO PARKS AND REC AND THE REA LET ME GIVE YOU THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING.
I'M ASKING BECAUSE PARKS AND REC HAVE SENIOR, HAVE DAILY SENIOR ACTIVITIES.
AND ONE THING THEY CAN DO IS, YOU KNOW, PRINT IT OUT FOR THEIR SENIORS THAT ATTEND WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING ON A DAILY BASIS, OR, YOU KNOW, WEEKLY, QUARTER, WEEKLY, MONTHLY, QUARTERLY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA SEND A NEWSLETTER.
BECAUSE ONE THING ABOUT IT, IF YOU TELL ENOUGH SENIORS ABOUT US, THOSE SENIORS WILL TALK FOR US AND TELL EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU'RE ENGAGED IN PARKS AND REC.
THAT WAY YOU CAN HIT ALL THE RECREATION CENTERS.
AND, UM, I THINK WE CAN, UH, HAVE A, UM, A PRETTY GOOD GROUND GAME GOING THERE.
GRASSROOTS, WE'LL DO, I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, ADD THEM ON THERE.
OUR LIST IS CONTINUOUSLY EXPANDING AND ALSO, ALTHOUGH IT IS DIGITAL IN ITS FORMAT, IT'S ALSO PRINTABLE.
SO I KNOW THAT, UH, THE CONSTITUENTS RECEIVING THAT WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS WELL.
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER TARGET AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS WELL IS THE EDUCATION SYSTEM.
AND I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO, UM, GIVE US A LOT OF DEPTH IN TERMS OF, UM, THE STRATEGY THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER FOR THAT.
SO I DID, UM, TALK TO THE DIRECTOR ABOUT THAT.
IT'S A CAMPAIGN THAT WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING ON COMING UP SOON.
AND, UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SHARE THAT WITH Y'ALL AS SOON AS THAT'S COMPLETED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BOARD? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU BOTH.
NEXT WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM, SORRY, NUMBER NINE HERE.
UH, COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD REPORTS AND BRIEFINGS.
UM, SUBSECTION, A DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF A RESPONSE TO CHIEF CUOMO'S MEMO RESPONDING TO CPO'S LETTER REQUESTING CLARIFICATION ON DPDS COLLABORATION WITH FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES.
SO I'M SURE YOU GUYS ALL RECEIVED THE DOCUMENT, THE LETTER RESPONSE, UM, OPEN FOR DISCUSSION RESPONSE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND DISTRICT IF YOU SO DESIRE ONLINE.
UH, BRANDON FREEMAN, DISTRICT 14.
UM, I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE, UM, I STILL FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF DISSATISFACTION, UM, WITH THE WAY THE CITY HAS RESPONDED TO THIS.
UM, WHAT DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR REINVITING THE CHIEF TO COME AND ANSWER QUESTIONS BEFORE US, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE LEFT OFF AT OUR LAST MEETING, WAS DISCUSSING, UH, ACTUALLY GETTING ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS WE HAD WHEN HE WASN'T ABLE TO ANSWER THEM.
SO ARE WE GOING TO RE-INVITE HIM AND INCLUDE OUR QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA? BECAUSE IF, IF WE HAD, IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO DO THAT, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY, UH, MOVE TO DO THAT.
UM, HAVE YOU GUYS MET WITH THE CHIEF SINCE I GUESS OUR RECESS, YOU AND THE CHAIR? I HAVE NOT.
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I GUESS WE CAN PUT A VOTE TO ENSURE THAT, UM, A MEETING REQUEST GOES OUT TO THE CHIEF AND THAT INFORMATION IS CLEARLY, UH, IDENTIFIED IN OUR AGENDA WITH, YOU KNOW, STATED TOPICS, I GUESS.SO WE HAVE VERY CLEAR INFORMATION OF WHAT, UM, WE'RE PLANNING TO ADDRESS AND DISCUSS WITH THE CHIEF.
UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A SMALL GROUP MEETING THAT'S NOT A QUORUM WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AND BRANDON, SINCE YOU, UH, WROTE THE LETTER, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO GO WITH MICHELLE AND MEET WITH THE CHIEF AND MAYBE THE CHAIR OF OUR BOARD.
AS MUCH AS I CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AND I REALLY DO, AND I CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID IN THAT LETTER, I FEEL LIKE WE CANNOT, WE SHOULD BE VERY MINDFUL OF HOW, HOW MUCH WE STATE ON THE PUBLIC RECORD.
WE DO NOT WANNA PUT A TARGET ON THE CITY OF DALLAS' BACK.
AND THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN, BECAUSE THEN THAT WILL REALLY BRING DOWN THE WRATH OF, UM, RIDICULOUSNESS AND, AND MORE EVIL FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE, FROM SOME OF THE EXAMPLES THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT.
THAT'LL JUST CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.
AND IT'S NOT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
AND I, I DON'T WANNA, I JUST, I FEEL LIKE WE REALLY NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT CONTINUING TO HAVE THE POLICE CHIEF BACK.
I DO WANNA HOLD 'EM ACCOUNTABLE.
UM, I THOUGHT HIS THIS NECK, THIS MOST RECENT LETTER WAS SLIGHTLY NICER OR, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THREE SENTENCES INSTEAD OF ONE.
BUT HE IS NOT GONNA SAY MORE THAN THAT.
AND I, I DON'T WANNA WASTE HIS TIME.
AND I, IT'S THAT TARGET ON OUR BACK.
I DON'T WANNA BRING ATTENTION TO A VERY SENSITIVE SITUATION.
IT MAY BE BETTER TO HAVE A QUIET CONVERSATION, UM, TO BETTER UNDERSTAND.
AND MAYBE THEN WE CAN TURN AROUND TO THE PUBLIC AND, AND HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AGAIN.
BUT I I, I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
UH, JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO.
UM, IT'S OBVIOUS THIS IS A HOT TOPIC.
I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS WE HAD TODAY.
AND THIS IS COMING FROM A VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF CITIZENS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE STILL HERE, WE'RE STILL IN THE SAME SITUATION.
THE ONLY THING ABOUT IT IS SCHOOL IS STARTING BACK AND CHILDREN ARE GOING TO SCHOOL, AND THERE'LL BE SITUATIONS WHERE BABIES COME HOME AND THEIR PARENTS AREN'T THERE.
WE CANNOT BE AFRAID TO HA TO ASK HARD QUESTIONS.
AND THOSE WHO ARE IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS CAN'T BE AFRAID TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ASK THE CHIEF TO COME BACK, THAT WE GET THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ATTORNEY TO COME IN HERE AND SIT DOWN AND MAKE SURE WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ALL THESE ROADBLOCKS AND KEEP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE STREET.
THAT'S THE PART THAT AGGRAVATES ME THE MOST.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THE ONE SENTENCE, I UNDERSTAND THE TWO SENTENCES.
I UNDERSTAND THE FEAR THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS WITH THE WRATH OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMING DOWN ON IT AND SUING THE PANTS OFF THE CITY.
BUT WE CANNOT LIVE IN FEAR BECAUSE AS LONG AS WE'RE AFRAID TO ANSWER, LONG, LONG AS WE'RE AFRAID TO ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS, WE GOT CITIZENS AROUND DALLAS WHO ARE TERRIFIED, AND THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THEM.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA ASK THE CHIEF TO COME BACK, LET'S MAKE SURE WE DO IT THE CORRECT WAY, AND LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR QUESTIONS READY, AND LET'S GO ABOUT IT THAT WAY.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, ULTIMATELY WE JUST NEED, WE JUST WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS, THIS ISN'T GOING AWAY.
IT IS JUST NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.
WE JUST NEED TO, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT AND WHAT OUR PLACE IS IN IT, AND HOW TO PROTECT THOSE MOST VULNERABLE.
UH, BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN? UH, YES, THANK YOU.
BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14.
UH, I, I WOULD ECHO MR. MAPLES.
UM, MY POSITION ON THIS IS THAT IT'S A LOT EASIER TO PULL DOWN A MEETING THAN IT IS TO SET ONE UP.
UM, I THINK WE NEED ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS.
IF THE CHIEF CAN'T ANSWER 'EM, OR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TELLS 'EM NOT TO ANSWER THEM 'CAUSE OF THE STATE THAT'S ON THEM.
BUT WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE AT RISK BY THE STATE.
SO WE NEED TO DO OUR JOB OF TRYING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE TERRIFIED RIGHT NOW.
AND OUR JOB IS TO REPRESENT THEM.
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IS THAT WE VOTE TO RE-INVITE THE CHIEF.UM, I'M HAPPY TO GO TO A MEETING TO MEET WITH HIM OFF THE RECORD, UH, AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT MONTH.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GO AHEAD AND GET THE MEETING SET UP ON THE AGENDA.
AND THEN IF, IF AFTER WE MEET WITH HIM PRIVATELY, IF WE DECIDE THERE'S A REASON TO PULL IT DOWN, THEN WE CAN STRIKE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, HAVING THE REQUEST MADE.
I HAVE A COMMENT, UH, CHAIR, YOU KNOW, I, UH, CHONGA HIGGINS DISTRICT THREE, UM, IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, WE'VE SEEN QUITE A FEW MOVES MADE BY, UH, CITY HALL, WHETHER IT BE, I DON'T KNOW, SOME OF 'EM, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY COME FROM, FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ADVISING THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT, UM, REPEATEDLY OVER AND OVER THE THREAT, THIS HANGING THREAT OF OUR GOVERNOR AND THE PRESIDENT COMING DOWN ON US AS BEING USED AS JUSTIFICATION TO STOP FUNDING CERTAIN THINGS, UH, TO NOT ENFORCE ORDINANCES THAT, UH, PROPOSITIONS AND ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN THE CHARTER THAT CITIZENS VOTED FOR.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER MAPLES AND BOARD MEMBER FREEMAN THAT YOU KNOW, THAT OUR J THIS IS OUR JOB.
AND IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD TROUBLE TO BE HAVING RIGHT HERE IF YOU KEEP HEARING THIS WORD.
WORDS GOOD, TROUBLE BEING THROWN AROUND.
WELL, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, HAVING THE COURAGE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YEAH.
THAT WE COULD DO THIS OUTTA FEAR.
WE COULD ACT OUTTA FEAR AND NOT DO THIS, OR WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO OUR JOB THAT WE WERE PUT HERE TO DO.
AND SO, I I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT WE SAW HERE TONIGHT, WHICH I KNOW SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, UH, IF THE WHOLE PROCESS THAT HAPPENED LAST BOARD MEETING DIDN'T HAPPEN THE WAY IT HAPPENED, I DON'T THINK THE THOSE PEOPLE WOULD'VE BEEN HERE TONIGHT.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS I THINK THAT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, I THINK THAT CHIEF CUOMO WAS, WOULD, WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO TELL US IN HIS WORDS WHAT HE COULD AND COULD ANSWER WITHOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY COMING IN AND STOPPING US IN THAT MEETING LIKE THAT AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING THAT THE MEDIA LATCHED ONTO.
AND IT ESCALATED IT TO THE POINT WHERE I GET PHONE CALLS ABOUT IT.
UM, AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY WE MOVE FORWARD.
WE ASK THE CHIEF TO COME AGAIN.
UM, THE CHIEF CAN TELL US WHAT HE CAN AND CAN'T ANSWER.
HE KNOWS WHAT HE CAN, AND HE CAN, HE CAN GO GET BRIEFED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T ANSWER.
AND THEN COME BEFORE US AND, AND HAVE A CONVERSATION AND, AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
THAT'S WHAT I, I THINK SHOULD HAPPEN.
I THINK NEXT STEPS IS, THIS IS NOT AN ITEM THAT WE HAD ON OUR, I'M SORRY, MAY I HAVE A COMMENT BEFORE YOU CLOSE US OUT? UH, YES, YOU MAY JUDGE.
UH, I CONCUR WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
UH, WE CANNOT OPERATE OUT OF FEAR.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BRING THE WRATH OF ANYTHING ON US, BUT WE DO NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
AND AS A BOARD, WE ARE CHARGED WITH OVERSEEING THE POLICE.
AND ONE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING FROM THE POLICE CHIEF AS TO WHAT, IF ANYTHING, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL DO IN TERMS OF THESE FEDERAL PEOPLE COMING DOWN AND DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
ASKING QUESTIONS IS A GOOD THING, EVEN IF IT DOES GET US INTO GOOD TROUBLE.
AND SO I WILL HAVE TO AGREE THAT I BELIEVE WE SHOULD ASK THE CHIEF TO COME AND VISIT WITH US AS A BOARD, BUT TO DO SO THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SO WE WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME KIND OF KERFUFFLE THAT WE HAD LAST TIME.
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SO I'M AGREEING WITH ALL OF MY, UH, PRETTY MUCH ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES.UM, SO I JUST CONSULTED, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON.
UH, THE DIRECTOR WILL REACH OUT TO INVITE, UH, THE CHIEF, UM, TO A NEXT BOARD MEETING.
UM, AND WE'LL BE WORKING, UH, WITH THE CHAIR AND WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION THAT WE PUT ON OUR, UH, AGENDA IS PROPER TO MEET THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS AND I THINK HAS EXPRESSED, UM, IN OUR PREVIOUS, UM, CONCERNS.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD ONTO THAT, AND NOT TO, YOU KNOW, IN ANY WAY DIMINISH THE, UM, ICE CONVERSATION AND THE FEDERAL CONVERSATION, BUT WE HAD MORE.
WELL, I KNOW I'VE SUBMITTED SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
WE HAD MORE QUESTIONS THAN JUST THOSE ON ICE.
NOT TO, YOU KNOW, DIMINISH THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE TO GET CLARITY ON.
UM, BUT WE ARE OVERSIGHT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, MORE SO THAN JUST THE ICE SITUATION THAT'S OCCURRING.
UH, WE WANNA UNDERSTAND THE HIRING OF POLICE OFFICERS BASED ON, UH, THE RECENTLY PASSED LEGISLATION.
WE WANNA UNDERSTAND THINGS ABOUT THE USE OF DRONES.
WE WANNA UNDERSTAND, USE OF FACIAL RECOGNITION, ALL OF THESE THINGS.
UH, I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS WITH THE POLICE AND JUST GET THE POSITION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SO WE KNOW HOW TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION, UH, WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICTS AS WELL.
SO, I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I, PURVIEW IS NOT JUST FOCUSED ON ICE.
WE HAVE OVERSIGHT OF THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING BEFORE, UH, SOME OF THE ICE RAIDS AND ISSUES THAT, UM, HAVE COME BEFORE US THAT WE NEED TO HAVE CLARITY AND JUST UNDERSTAND POSITIONS, UH, WITH THE NEW, WITH A NEW CHIEF BEING IN PLACE.
AND SO, UM, WITH THAT, I TALKED WITH THE DIRECTOR, WE WILL BE REQUESTING, UH, ANOTHER TIME TO CHAT WITH THE CHIEF DURING ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS.
AND I THINK WE'VE ALSO STATED THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT AGENDA MEETS THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS FOR US TO HAVE A, YOU KNOW, CANDID CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF.
AND I THINK AS, UM, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS STATE THE CHIEF CAN, YOU KNOW, SAY HE CAN'T ANSWER CERTAIN THINGS OR, YOU KNOW, ANSWER WHAT HE KNOWS HE CAN ANSWER.
SO, UM, IF NO MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT WE WILL BE REQUESTING ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE CHIEF.
UM, WITH THAT CHAIRMAN'S REPORT, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY FROM THE CHAIR, UH, TO REPORT OUT.
UM, I KIND OF SPRINKLED SOME OF MY COMMENTS IN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PAPER REDUCTION ACT AND THE BUDGET THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.
UM, OTHER ITEMS I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE, UH, WE CHATTED ABOUT.
UM, JUST WANTED TO, UH, PERSONALLY RECOGNIZE AND THANK, UM, BOARD MEMBER WADSWORTH FOR HER SIX YEARS OF SERVICE, UM, TO THIS BOARD.
UM, I CAN SPEAK COMING ON THE BOARD AND JUST KIND OF MY EARLY DAYS JUST WATCHING HER.
UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, HER PASSION, HER TENACITY, UM, AND HER EXPERTISE.
WHEN, YOU KNOW, SHE STEPS IN, SHE TELLS US ABOUT INSURANCE.
SO WE LEARN, YOU LEARN A LOT OF THINGS WHEN YOU COME TO THIS BOARD.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT POLICE OVERSIGHT.
UH, SO JUST LEARNING A LOT OF THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SEEING HER PASSION.
AND I KNOW SHE'S NOT GONE GOING FAR.
UM, I KNOW SHE'LL STILL BE IN REACH, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SIX YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE, UM, TO YOUR DISTRICT AND TO THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UM, WITH THAT, I WILL JUST ASK MAYBE FOR, UM, TIMELINESS, DO WE HAVE ANY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS TO SHARE? UM, THE ONLY COMMENT I WILL ADD TO THAT, I KNOW WE'LL BE WORKING WITH DR.
UH, GILBERT SMITH FOR A RETREAT.
SO I KNOW, UM, THAT'S ONE THING ON THE TRAINING PIECE THAT WE WILL, WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH THE BOARD.
IF NO OTHER COMMENTS, CHAIRMAN OR QUESTIONS CHAIRMAN, DID YOU, DID YOU SAY RETREAT? RETREAT? YES.
JUST, JUST PLEASE NOW WHY THE FAIR IS GOING ON? 'CAUSE I CAN'T OH, DURING THE FAIR
SO I WILL, I WILL BE WORKING FROM SUN UP TO SUNDOWN.
WE'LL GET SOME GOOD DATES, UH, SO WE CAN ALL ATTEND THE AFFAIR.
OUR NEXT MEETING, SEPTEMBER 9TH, UH, SIX N COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
WE MIGHT HAVE TO MOVE TO NOVEMBER 5TH.
UM, AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON OUR NOVEMBER MEETING.
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WE MAY NEED TO MOVE THAT, OR WE NEED TO MOVE THAT MEETING TO NOVEMBER 5TH VERSUS THE SECOND, UM, TUESDAY.THAT'S VETERAN'S DAY, THE HOLIDAY.
SO WE'LL, UH, HAVE THE OFFICE, MAKE SURE WE SEND OUT SOME REMINDERS TO UPDATE YOUR CALENDARS IF YOU ALREADY HAVE IT ON YOUR CALENDAR FOR, UM, NOVEMBER 5TH.
ALRIGHT, WALTER, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC? YES, SIR.
SO WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR MEETING HERE.
I BELIEVE THAT ROLLED OVER WELL.
I BELIEVE THIS IS, UH, MR. J, UH, LAMAR JEFFERSON.
WE NEED YOU TO, UH, HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON, UH, MY CAMERA.
AND ONCE YOU'RE READY TO GO, ONCE YOU START, UH, THE, UH, TIMER WILL GO.
UM, FIRST, BEFORE I EVEN START, I KNOW MY TIME IS STARTING.
I FINALLY HIGHLY, HIGHLY PREJUDICIAL AND I AM APPALLED AT THIS OVERBOARD TODAY.
I SIT HERE AND WATCH EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU LAUGH.
I HAD OVER, I HAVE OVER $30,000 IN COUNTY MEDICAL BILLS.
WERE IS THE MISREPRESENT, FRAUDULENT MISREPRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE BY THE, THE POLICE OVERSIGHT PERSON SPEAKING WITH Y'ALL, THAT THERE WAS A SHUFFLE.
I WAS TAKEN OUT BY MY HANDS AND LEGS LIKE A SLAVE THROWN OUT LIKE TRASH.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU SAID, WE DON'T EVEN WANNA INVESTIGATE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO TO SUE BESIDES THE POLICE FOR THE DAMAGE THAT WILL COST THEM.
I HAVE ISSUES WITH MY HIP, MY SHOULDER, THEY DROPPED ME ON THE CONCRETE.
THEY DID CHOKE ME, TREAT ME LIKE A CHILD.
I WAS IN THERE UNDER THE FEDERAL PROTECTION OF THE FEDERAL COURT.
I HAD A GREEN ENVELOPE TO SERVE SOMEONE.
I WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HARMED.
AND FOR EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU TO SIT THERE AND LACK AND SAY THE RIDICULOUS STUFF THAT I HEARD TODAY, SHAME ON YOU.
SHAME ON YOUR PARENTS, SHAME ON EVERYBODY.
WHEN AMERICANS CAN BE ATTACKED AND Y'ALL SO CONCERNED ABOUT ICE, WHEN REAL AMERICANS, INDIGENOUS AMERICANS ARE HERE BEING HARMED, YOU WILL NOT EVEN INVESTIGATE WHO'S GOING TO PAY MY MEDICAL BILLS FROM ME BEING ASSAULTED IN FRONT OF SEVEN POLICE OFFICERS WHO FAILED IN THEIR DUTY TO PROTECT ME.
THE OFFICERS EVEN LAUGHED THAT DAY.
THEY ASSISTED PEOPLE WHO DID NOT HAVE ARRESTING DETENTION AUTHORITY.
WHERE'S MY REDRESS? WHERE'S THE NEGROES PEOPLE? WHERE THE NEGROES GONNA GET HELP? SHAME ON ALL YOU NEGROES UP THERE.
WHO WOULDN'T EVEN VOTE TO INVESTIGATE OR SUCK? Y'ALL PROMOTE BLACK ON BLACK AND NEGRO ON BLACK CRIME.
BUT IF IT WOULD'VE BEEN WHITE POLICE OFFICERS, Y'ALL ALL WOULD'VE BEEN RIGHT THERE.
ARE THERE OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? NEGATIVE.
NO OTHER, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
ALL WITH THAT? OH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOVE.
OH, THIS IS D WADSWORTH DISTRICT 12.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
DISTRICT FOUR, LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN