Aug 20, 2025 Council Briefing

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A QUORUM. TODAY'S WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 20TH, 2025.

[Call to Order]

SPEAKER THIS MORNING IS THERE HE IS. ALL RIGHT.

OUR COLLEAGUE, THE DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN FROM DISTRICT THREE, COUNCIL MEMBER ZARIN D GRACEY.

HE'S ALSO AN EXECUTIVE PASTOR AT CONCORD CHURCH.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM FOR OUR INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PASTOR. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. LET US BOW OUR HEADS. GRACIOUS GOD, WE GATHER TODAY IN SERVICE TO THE GREAT CITY OF DALLAS AND ITS PEOPLE. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER IN COMMON PURPOSE, SETTING ASIDE OUR DIFFERENCES TO WORK FOR THE GOOD OF ALL WHO CALL THIS CITY HOME. AS WE BEGIN OUR DELIBERATIONS, WE WE ARE REMINDED OF THE WISDOM FOUND IN ROMANS 12 VERSE 16.

LIVE IN HARMONY WITH ONE ANOTHER. DO NOT BE PROUD, BUT BE WILLING TO ASSOCIATE WITH PEOPLE OF LOW POSITION.

DO NOT BE CONCEITED. LORD, GRANT US HUMILITY TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE HERE NOT FOR OUR OWN GLORY, BUT AS SERVANTS OF THIS COMMUNITY. HELP US TO LIVE IN HARMONY WITH ONE ANOTHER AROUND THIS COUNCIL TABLE.

SETTING ASIDE PERSONAL PRIDE AND POLITICAL DIFFERENCES FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF DALLAS.

WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM TO GUIDE. MAYOR JOHNSON AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPACT FAMILIES, NEIGHBORHOODS, AND BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. BLESS OUR DEDICATED CITY STAFF WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO IMPLEMENT OUR POLICIES AND SERVE OUR RESIDENTS WITH EXCELLENCE.

GRANT US DISCERNMENT TO SEE CLEARLY THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

COURAGE TO MAKE DIFFICULT BUT NECESSARY DECISIONS, AND COMPASSION TO REMEMBER THAT BEHIND EVERY AGENDA ITEM ARE PEOPLE WITH REAL NEEDS AND REAL HOPES FOR THEIR FUTURE. HELP US TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC TRUST.

MANAGING OUR CITY'S RESOURCES WISELY AND ALWAYS.

KEEPING THE WELFARE OF DALLAS RESIDENTS AT THE CENTER OF OUR WORK.

MAY THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE TODAY BE MARKED BY RESPECT, UNDERSTANDING, AND GENUINE DESIRE TO BUILD A STRONGER, MORE UNITED DALLAS WHERE EVERY PERSON HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE.

BLESS OUR DELIBERATIONS, GUIDE OUR DECISIONS, AND MAY ALL WE DO BRING HONOR TO YOU AND BENEFIT TO THE PEOPLE WE SERVE.

AND YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. IF EVERYONE WHO IS ABLE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU MAY BE SEATED. OKAY. WE HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING.

[Special Presentations]

AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

BUT I WANT TO BEGIN OUR OFFICIAL BUSINESS THIS MORNING BY TAKING A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE AND REMEMBER FORMER DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, DOCTOR MAXINE THORNTON REESE, WHO PASSED AWAY THIS PAST FRIDAY.

DOCTOR THORNTON REESE LEAVES BEHIND AN IMPACTFUL LEGACY, HAVING SERVED WITH DISTINCTION ON THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTING DISTRICT FOUR FROM 1999 TO 2007. SO NEARLY A DECADE. TONIGHT, OUR DOWNTOWN NIGHT SKY IS GOING TO BE LIT RED IN HER MEMORY. THANKS TO BANK OF AMERICA, THE OMNI AND CLYDE WARREN PARK.

SO DOWNTOWN WILL BE LIT RED IN HONOR OF DOCTOR MAXINE THORNTON REESE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A PROCLAMATION ISSUED BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO READ, RECOGNIZING DOCTOR MAXINE THORNTON REESE FOR HER MANY YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS AND JUST TO HER FAMILY.

I JUST WANT TO EXTEND OUR SINCERE CONDOLENCES ON BEHALF OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR.

SO, MADAM CITY MANAGER, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, PLEASE.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING TO YOU AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE ARE TODAY WITH DEEP THOUGHTS IN MEMORY OF DOCTOR MAXINE THORNTON REESE, WHO I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING WITH DURING MY TIME AS THE ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER. THE CITY OF DALLAS IS PRIVILEGED TO HONOR THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF A VALUED MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY, DOCTOR MAXINE THORNTON REESE. SHE PASSED AWAY ON AUGUST THE 15TH, 2025, AT THE AGE OF 86.

DOCTOR REESE ATTENDED DALLAS ISD SCHOOLS AND CONTINUED HER POST-HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION BY EARNING HER UNDERGRADUATE AND MASTER'S DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS. SHE ACHIEVED A DOCTORATE IN EDUCATION FROM TEXAS A&M UNIVERSITY AT COMMERCE.

DOCTOR REESE WAS A PROUD MEMBER OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY, INCORPORATED, WHERE SHE EMBODIED THE PRINCIPLES OF SISTERHOOD AND PUBLIC SERVICE.

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SHE WAS VICE CHAIR OF THE TRANSPORTATION AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE AND AS A MEMBER OF SEVERAL COMMITTEES, INCLUDING QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR.

THE CITY OF DALLAS TODAY EXTENDS ITS DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY, FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES OF DOCTOR REESE.

SO THEREFORE, I, ERIK JOHNSON, OUR MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, HEREBY TODAY HONORS DOCTOR REES FOR HER LIFE WELL SERVED IN OUR CITY.

I WILL BE PRESENTING THIS TO THE FAMILY ON SATURDAY DURING THE HOMEGOING SERVICES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER.

AND IF EVERYONE WOULDN'T MIND JOINING US NOW FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

AND IN HONOR OF DOCTOR MAXINE THORNTON. REESE, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE TWO MORE SPECIAL RECOGNITIONS FROM THE OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER.

SO I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS MORNING, WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THE INCREDIBLE SUCCESS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS BLOOD PROGRAM THAT THE DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT LAUNCHED IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

THE BLOOD PROGRAM ALLOWS FOR PARAMEDICS TO DELIVER LIFE SAVING BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS ON THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL IN CRITICAL MINUTES AFTER A TRAUMATIC INJURY. THE SUCCESS AND IMPACT OF THIS PROGRAM IS MEASURED BY THE LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN SAVED BECAUSE OF IT.

DALLAS FIRE RESCUE CONTINUES TO EMBODY INNOVATION AND PROGRESS WITH INITIATIVES LIKE THIS.

THIS IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN PARKLAND HOSPITAL, THE AMERICAN RED CROSS, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE AND AGAIN, IS A DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO ELEVATE THE STANDARD OF CARE FOR RESIDENTS ACROSS THE CITY.

SO AT THIS TIME, IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW THIS PROGRAM HAS HAS MOVED OUR CITY FORWARD.

AND THE MEMBERS OF OUR DALLAS FIRE RESCUE TEAM WHO HAVE MADE IT HAPPEN.

I'M GOING TO CALL OUT YOUR NAMES IF YOU WILL.

PLEASE STAND UP AND COME DOWN TO THE FRONT, PLEASE.

MARCUS. TOOP, ERIC. BURNELL, JOSHUA. MILEY, JUSTIN VAUGHAN, JOHN BRONSON, BRIAN ELLIOTT AND JACK BARR. WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING THIS TEAM? MR. MAYOR, CAN WE GET A PHOTO WITH THEM? WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER JOIN FOR A PHOTO WITH WITH THIS TEAM, IF THAT'S OKAY. OF COURSE THAT'S FINE. SO COME ON INSIDE THE THE RAILING HERE.

AND IF YOU COULD ARRANGE YOURSELVES HERE IN THE CENTER, WE'LL TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH.

I'M GOING TO ASK DOCTOR ISAAC TO COME DOWN AS WELL AND MAKE A FEW COMMENTS AT THE PODIUM.

AFTER WE TAKE THE PHOTO, IF THAT'S OKAY. MR. MAYOR, IF YOU GUYS WOULDN'T MIND SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT TO YOUR LEFT SO YOU'LL BE CENTERED RIGHT HERE. YOU IN THE MIDDLE SHOULD BE RIGHT THERE.

THERE YOU GO.

DOCTOR. DOCTOR! ISAAC, ARE YOU GOING TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND.

ALL RIGHT. OF COURSE.

GOOD MORNING. I'M INTERIM ASSISTANT CHIEF SCOTT PACO OVER OPERATIONS, EMS AND SPECIAL OPERATIONS.

I'M STANDING IN FOR CHIEF BALL THIS MORNING, SO THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT, CHIEF ARTIS AND THE COUNCIL, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TRUSTING US FOR THESE IMPORTANT INITIATIVES AND PUTTING THEM IN PLACE.

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THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH CHIEFS MISSION CHIEF BALL'S MISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THE RIGHT RESOURCES, THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT, AND THE RIGHT RESPONSE FOR SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES.

WE KNEW THAT JUST SAVING ONE LIFE WOULD MAKE THIS PROGRAM A SUCCESS.

WE'RE PROUD TO CONFIRM THAT THANKS TO THIS PROGRAM AND THE HARD WORK BY OUR DNR MEMBERS, THAT MANY LIVES HAVE BEEN SAVED IN A CRISIS, OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS ARE FACED WITH MAKING SPLIT SECOND DECISIONS THAT COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH.

THEIR INSTINCTS, EXTENSIVE TRAINING AND COMPOSURE IN CRISIS SHOW THEIR DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO SERVING OUR MEMBERS.

DOING THE WORK ON THE GROUND ARE THE ONES WHO REALLY MAKE THESE PROGRAMS A SUCCESS.

AND I CAN'T. I CAN'T EXPLAIN WITH THE WORDS THAT I KNOW HOW PROUD WE ARE OF THE EFFORTS THAT THEY HAVE.

SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO NOW INTRODUCE CHIEF MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR DALLAS FIRE RESCUE, DOCTOR MARSHALL ISAACS.

THANK YOU CHIEF. GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. MADAM CITY MANAGER, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CHIEF ARTIST.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU. ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT AND HELPING US TO LAUNCH THIS PROGRAM.

WE'RE SO GRATEFUL FOR OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH PARKLAND BIOTECH AND THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, SINCE FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE HAS BEEN CARRYING BLOOD ALONG WITH SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT NECESSARY TO TRANSFUSE BLOOD TO PATIENTS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING LIFE THREATENING BLOOD LOSS.

SO FAR, 18 PATIENTS HAVE RECEIVED POTENTIALLY LIFE SAVING BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS AND MANY LIVES HAVE BEEN SAVED.

I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE CHIEF PAUL, CHIEF PACO AND THE COMMAND STAFF FOR THEIR VISION AND LEADERSHIP, ALONG WITH THE DIVISION LEADERSHIP FOR EMS AND MY TEAM AT THE DFR OFFICE OF THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR.

BUT MOSTLY WE WANT TO THANK DALLAS FIRE RESCUES, EMS SUPERVISORS WHO STEPPED UP TO LEARN A NEW AND ADVANCED SKILL AND ARE NOW WELL PREPARED TO ADMINISTER BLOOD TO SEVERELY BLEEDING PATIENTS.

BUT ALL THE CREDIT GOES TO OUR DFR PARAMEDICS, FIREFIGHTERS AND OFFICERS WHO ARE CRITICAL TO THIS EFFORT TO PROVIDE POTENTIALLY LIFESAVING BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS. WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF ALL OF THEM AND ARE GRATEFUL FOR THEIR SKILL AND EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO OUR CITY.

AS A REMINDER, WITH THIS PROGRAM, WE AIM TO DEMONSTRATE TWO SIMPLE THINGS THAT DALLAS FIRE RESCUE CAN BE A GOOD STEWARD OF THE PRECIOUS BLOOD SUPPLY THAT WE ARE ENTRUSTED TO. AND THAT WE CAN ADMINISTER BLOOD QUICKLY AND SAFELY WITH THE GOAL OF SAVING.

SAVING ADDITIONAL LIVES TO HELP US IN OUR GOAL OF MAKING DALLAS THE SAFEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES.

SO I WANT TO SHARE A BRIEF STORY WITH YOU. EARLY ON SUNDAY MORNING, MARCH 30TH, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE RECEIVED A 911 CALL FOR ASSISTANCE FOR A 30 YEAR OLD FEMALE WHO WAS EXPERIENCING BLEEDING.

A FEW WEEKS AFTER GIVING BIRTH, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE'S MEMBERS FROM RESCUE 11 ARRIVED ON SCENE, ASSESSED THE PATIENT AND FOUND THAT SHE WAS EXPERIENCING POTENTIALLY LIFE THREATENING BLEEDING.

THEY IMMEDIATELY CALLED FOR ASSISTANCE FROM DALLAS FIRE RESCUE ENGINE 11 AND AN EMS BLOOD SUPERVISOR.

TOGETHER, THEY BEGAN PROVIDING EXPERT STATE OF THE ART CARE TRANSFUSED THE PATIENT AND TRANSPORTED HER TO MEDICAL CITY, DALLAS, WHERE SPECIALIZED DOCTORS AND NURSES WERE ALERTED BY PARKLAND HOTEL TO PREPARE TO RECEIVE A CRITICALLY ILL PATIENT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS PATIENT IS HERE TODAY TO SHARE THAT STORY WITH YOU, AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO DOCTOR KATE KRAUS.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR ISAACS. I AM AN EMERGENCY MEDICINE PHYSICIAN WHO WORKS HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

JUST LAST YEAR, I COMPLETED MY TRAINING AT UT SOUTHWESTERN AND PARKLAND HOSPITAL.

IN FEBRUARY, I GAVE BIRTH TO MY BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER, EVELYN.

ONE MONTH LATER, AS I WOKE UP TO FEED MY BABY.

I SUDDENLY FELT A WET SENSATION BETWEEN MY LEGS.

WITHIN JUST MINUTES, A POOL OF BLOOD FIVE FEET ACROSS HAD SPREAD BENEATH ME.

I CALLED OUT FOR MY HUSBAND, WHO IMMEDIATELY CALLED 911.

I WAS IN AND OUT OF CONSCIOUSNESS WHEN PARAMEDICS ARRIVED AT MY HOME.

AMAZINGLY, DALLAS FIRE-RESCUE WAS ABLE TO BEGIN A BLOOD TRANSFUSION, AND I RECEIVED TWO UNITS OF BLOOD JUST OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE ON THE WAY TO THE HOSPITAL.

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I VERY NEARLY DIED THAT DAY. POSTPARTUM HEMORRHAGE IS ONE OF THE LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH OF NEW MOTHERS EVERY YEAR.

BUT THANKS TO MY HUSBAND, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE BY HOTEL AND MY SURGEONS AT THE HOSPITAL, I'M ALIVE TO TALK TO YOU TODAY.

I GET TO CONTINUE BEING A MOTHER TO MY DAUGHTER, A WIFE TO MY HUSBAND, AND A PHYSICIAN TO MY COMMUNITY.

WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO THE CITY AND DALLAS FIRE-RESCUE FOR THE PREHOSPITAL BLOOD PROGRAM.

I KNOW IT CAN SAVE MORE LIVES JUST LIKE IT DID FOR ME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE UP OUR EMS DEPUTY CHIEF SCOTT COLUMNAR AND MISS COURTNEY EDWARDS, THE DIRECTOR OF BIOTECH AT PARKLAND. COULD THEY PLEASE COME UP WHILE WE PRESENT A CERTIFICATE OF EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE? OKAY. THE CERTIFICATE OF EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE IS AWARDED TO RESCUE 11, ENGINE 11 AND EMS SUPERVISOR 786. MARCUS TWO. ERIC. BURNELL, JOSHUA. HARLEY, JUSTIN.

LEYBOURNE, JOHN BRONSON, BRIAN ELLIOTT AND JACK BAUER.

ON BEHALF OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND THE DALLAS FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

WE GRATEFULLY ACKNOWLEDGE OUR HARD WORK AND COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR EXEMPLARY PERFORMANCE IN THE CARE OF A PATIENT ON MARCH 30TH, 2025. WE'RE PROUD OF YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YES. COME ON. WE CAN GET A PICTURE OF.

THE DOCTOR AND EVERYONE RIGHT HERE IN THE CENTER.

OKAY. READY? THREE. TWO. ONE. THREE. TWO. ONE.

THREE. TWO. ONE. GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL RECOGNITION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MEET THIS MORNING.

WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE TREMENDOUS PARTNERSHIP AND TEAMWORK THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE MIDTOWN TWIN HILLS AREA, WHICH IS DISTRICT 13. SINCE MAY, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM CODE COMPLIANCE.

DALLAS POLICE, THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, PARK RECREATION AND THE MIDTOWN PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, HOSPITALS AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS OVERALL PUBLIC SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS IN THE AREA.

THIS COLLABORATION HAS LED TO SITE WALKTHROUGHS, ENCAMPMENT CLEANINGS, INVESTIGATING NUISANCE PROPERTIES, AND DIRECT OUTREACH TO CONNECT INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITH RURAL SERVICES, INCLUDING SAFE TRANSPORT AND EVEN REUNIFICATION WITH FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LIVE OUT OF STATE. IN JULY, THE CITY LAUNCHED A SIX WEEK SOCIAL SERVICE BLITZ IN THIS AREA, BRINGING PROVIDERS TOGETHER LIKE THE VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMISSION.

NEXT IS HOMEWARD BOUND. THE STEW POT DIRECTLY INTO THE FIELD.

WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN INDIVIDUALS ARE ACCEPTING SERVICES AND THEY ARE ON THEIR PATHWAY TO STABILITY AT THE SAME TIME.

OUR TEAMS ARE IMPROVING OUR OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE.

18 PUBLIC STREETLIGHTS ARE BEING UPGRADED TO LED IN THIS AREA FOR GREATER SAFETY.

VEGETATION CONTRIBUTING TO QUALITY OF LIFE. CONCERNS HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND WE ARE WORKING IN COORDINATION WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND WITH DART.

THESE ARE NOT EASY CHALLENGES TO OVERCOME. AND TODAY THIS RECOGNITION IS ABOUT THE COMMITMENT,

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STANDING BEFORE YOU TODAY, YOU ALL REPRESENT THE VERY BEST OF PUBLIC SERVICE, AND I AM PROUD TO HAVE YOU STAND BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL THIS MORNING AND BE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR EFFORTS. CONTINUE TO DO A JOB WELL DONE.

CONTINUE TO RUN UP THE SCORE TO PUT DALLAS AT THE TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD WHERE WE BELONG.

THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.

I'M GOING TO CALL ON MR. ODEN, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE, JUST TO MAKE A FEW WORDS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE YOU ALL COME DOWN AND WE'LL TAKE A PHOTO, IF THAT'S OKAY.

MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. AND GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR MEMBERS AND MADAM CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR HER VISION AND FOR THE COUNCIL FOR YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF HOW WE IN DALLAS ENVISION THE CROSSROADS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE COMING TOGETHER. IT REALLY IS A BLOCK BY BLOCK APPROACH OF MULTIPLE DISCIPLINES AND DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER. AND DALLAS REALLY IS THE LEADER RIGHT NOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF HOW WE TAKE THESE EFFORTS.

AND WE DON'T JUST DO IT IN ONE AREA. WE'RE DOING IT CITYWIDE DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

I WANT TO DEFINITELY THANK MY PEERS. DIRECTOR CHRISTIAN, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY, CHIEF COMO AND OTHERS THAT WORK WITH THE TEAM EVERY SINGLE DAY TO ENVISION WHAT A NEW FUTURE CAN BE FOR SOME OF THE AREAS THAT ARE THAT ARE SUFFERED WITH CRIME AND QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES, AS WELL AS THE TEAM FOR THE DISCIPLINE THEY SHOW EVERY DAY, SHOWING UP, GOING BLOCK BY BLOCK AND NOT STOPPING NO MATTER WHAT THE WEATHER IS, WHAT THE WHAT THEY MAY FEEL LIKE EVERY SINGLE DAY THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE EFFORT.

AND SO THIS IS A MODEL THAT WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING TO EVERYONE'S DISTRICT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU. COME ON DOWN. THE CENTER IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME HERE AND YOU CAN SPREAD YOURSELVES OUT EVENLY.

MAKE THE PICTURE LOOK NICE. ALL RIGHT.

RIGHT. WHAT AN INSPIRING MORNING. MADAM CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THOSE ARE GREAT WONDERFUL PRESENTATIONS AND JUST SO PROUD OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING HERE AT THE CITY.

SAVING LIVES, LITERALLY. PUBLIC SAFETY IS MORE HOLISTIC THAN JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT'S IT'S KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

A NATIONAL LEADER IN THAT STUFF. THAT'S GREAT.

OKAY, EVERYONE, BACK TO THEIR SEATS. I'M SORRY ABOUT THE WORKOUT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE UP AND DOWN, BUT IT WAS FOR A GOOD CAUSE THIS MORNING, RIGHT? SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER, UP TO THE CITY SECRETARY FOR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

[Open Microphone Speakers]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING. THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HERE'S FIRST FIVE REGISTER SPEAKERS.

I WILL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION, INDIVIDUALS ARE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YOU WILL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON.

ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, YOLANDA WILLIAMS. MISS WILLIAMS, WILL BE VIRTUAL.

MISS WILLIAMS, WE CAN SEE YOU. YOU MAY BEGIN.

MISS WILLIAMS, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE. YOU'RE MUTED.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOUR NAME. YES.

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GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. FIRST I'D LIKE TO DO A DISCLAIMER.

EVEN IF I DON'T AGREE WITH AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I'M GOING TO ALWAYS BE RESPECTFUL AND I TRULY, TRULY DO THIS EVERY DAY. WHEN THE BIBLE SAY PRAY FOR YOUR ELECTED OR APPOINTED OFFICIALS.

SO I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING I WAS A LITTLE DISTURBED YESTERDAY.

I WAS EXCITED TO WATCH COUNCIL SEE THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I WAS DISTURBED LAST WEEK WITH WHAT TOOK PLACE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY D3, WHICH I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER PULLED JUST ABOUT EVERY AGENDA ITEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT POINT HE WAS TRYING. MISS WILLIAMS, YOU'RE WE CANNOT HEAR YOU.

YOUR AUDIO IS MUTED OKAY OKAY OKAY. HE WAS OVER THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT.

SO TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AS IF HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

SO Y'ALL KNOW I'M JUST GOING TO BE FACTUAL. WHEN I WAS ON THE PARK BOARD, WE GOT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT THE BLACKS WERE RECEIVING THE CONTRACTS.

BUT HOWEVER, WHEN I DID RESEARCH WELL, I FOUND OUT THAT SOME BLACKS DIDN'T HAVE THEIR BUSINESS IN ORDER, THEN FILED TAXES. DIDN'T DO THIS, DIDN'T DO THAT.

SO BACK THEN THESE THREE COUNCIL MEMBER CAME AND GAVE US UP, TOLD EVERYONE HOW THE PROCUREMENT WORKS AND EVERYTHING.

SO MISS WILLIAMS, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING SO WELL.

MISS MISS WILLIAMS, MISS WILLIAMS, MISS WILLIAMS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MISS WILLIAMS, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING.

OKAY, WELL, I HAVE IT. DO YOU SEE ME BECAUSE I'M ON.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE CANNOT BECAUSE WE CANNOT, MISS WILLIAMS. YES WE CAN. NO. YOU MAY CONTINUE. OKAY. WELL, AND SO I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE PULLED ALL THOSE AGENDA ITEMS WHEN HE WAS IN CHARGE OF THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT.

HE KNEW THE PROCESS. NOW, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HISPANICS NOW, MISS WILLIAMS NEED TO SAY IT.

BUT, MISS WILLIAMS, I'M SORRY. YOU'RE YOU'RE OKAY.

YOU MAY CONTINUE, BUT THE HISPANICS HAVE EVERYTHING IN ORDER, AND SO IT FRUSTRATED ME TO SEE WHAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY, THAT BEAUTIFUL PRAYER THAT YOU JUST PRAYED. I HOPE YOU TAKE THAT WITH YOU WHILE YOU'RE SITTING AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

YOU WERE IN CHARGE OF THE MISS WILLIAMS DEPARTMENT FOR 16 YEARS.

MISS WILLIAMS, YOUR VIDEO IS GOING IN AND OUT.

YES. WELL, I DON'T LIKE IT. SO I WENT TO CITY HALL.

OKAY. CAN YOU SEE ME NOW? NO. WE CANNOT. CAN YOU SEE ME NOW? OKAY, WELL, LET ME JUST SEE. COULD I SWITCH TO WHERE I'M AT BECAUSE I WANT.

I WAITED ALL DAY TO GET MY POINT ACROSS ON THIS BECAUSE IT SAID MISS WILLIAMS. YOUR VIDEO MUST BE DISPLAYED. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE I HAVE MY VIDEO.

I HAVE IT ON. CAN YOU SEE ME? IT MAY BE THE AREA YOU'RE IN, MISS WILLIAMS. WE CAN SEE YOU NOW. YOU MAY CONTINUE. YES, SIR.

OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY WHAT TOOK PLACE LAST WEEK WAS UNACCEPTABLE TO SIT UP TO BE PART OF THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT FOR 16 YEARS AND ACT LIKE IT'S DISCRIMINATION GOING ON. YOU CREATED THE PROCESS. IT WAS WORKING OKAY.

IT'S NOT WORTH IT. SO I'M HOPING THAT I DON'T HAVE TO COMMENT ON THIS.

WILLIAMS I'M SORRY. THANK YOU PERSON. THANK YOU.

MISS WILLIAMS. YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING. SO SORRY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, MAX CHICCARELLI.

GOOD MORNING. MAX CHICCARELLI FROM DISTRICT 13.

THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT IS NOT TELLING YOU THE WHOLE STORY.

THEY COME TO YOU WITH THESE THREE PICTURES AND A COUPLE OF VIDEOS TO SCARE YOU.

THEY TAKE YOU AND RIDE ALONG, PROBABLY TO THE ALLEYS THAT ARE THE WORST.

AND THAT'S TO SCARE YOU. AND APPARENTLY IT'S WORKING BECAUSE IT APPEARS LIKE THE COUNCIL IS WILLING TO GO ALONG WITH THEIR ILL ADVISED PLAN.

BUT REALITY IS ACTUALLY QUITE DIFFERENT. AND I'M SHOWING YOU PICTURES FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, RUSS WOOD ACRES. THESE ARE PICTURES OF EACH AND EVERY ALLEY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE ALLEYS ARE NOT UNSAFE YET. THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT WANTS TO REMOVE ALLEY TRASH PICKUP FROM OUR ALLEYWAYS. AND THEIR STATED PRIMARY REASON IS SAFETY.

THESE ALLEYWAYS ARE NOT UNSAFE.

KEEP IN MIND THAT THE CITY ORIGINALLY APPROVED THESE ALLEYWAYS.

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IT IS BECAUSE THE CITY HAS FAILED TO DO ITS JOB OF MAINTAINING THESE ALLEYWAYS.

AND IT'S YOUR JOB AS A COUNCIL TO MANAGE A CITY MANAGER WHO IN TURN MANAGES THE VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS.

AND IF THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DOING THEIR WORK, THEN WE NEED TO PUT SOMEBODY IN THEIR PLACE THAT CAN DO THEIR WORK.

BUT JUST BECAUSE THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN DOING THEIR THEIR JOB DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY SHOULD NOW TAKE AWAY SERVICES THAT WE'VE HAD FOR OVER 60 YEARS.

AND THEY DO THAT BY SHOWING YOU A COUPLE A FEW PICTURES AND A HANDFUL OF VIDEOS OF SOME UNSAFE ALLEYS.

I'M SURE THERE ARE SOME ALLEYS THAT ARE NOT SAFE FOR TRASH PICKUP.

LET'S ADDRESS THOSE ALLEYS. BUT LET'S NOT THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER.

LET'S GIVE THE RESIDENTS OF EACH NEIGHBORHOOD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET WITH THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT AND HAVE THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT EXPLAIN THEM WHETHER THEIR ALLEYS ARE UNSAFE, WHY THEY AREN'T SAFE, AND I CAN IN THREE MINUTES TELL YOU ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE BAD AND ILL ADVISED WITH THIS PLAN. BUT I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU AND THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY THE PLAN IS NOT GOOD.

YOU ALL REPRESENT US, STAND UP FOR US, ADVOCATE FOR US, BUT DON'T LET THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT SCARE YOU AND LET EVERYBODY GET TREATED AND PAINTED WITH THE SAME BROAD BRUSH.

PLEASE, PLEASE DO YOUR JOB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SHANE CRONIN.

YOUR MICROPHONE. THERE'S A BUTTON. YES. HELLO, MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS SHANE CRONIN. I LIVE ON DIXON AVENUE IN DISTRICT 14, IN OAK LAWN.

I ALSO OWN PROPERTY IN DISTRICTS ONE AND TWO.

I'M HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS OUT OF CONTROL HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS.

I'LL ZOOM IN FIRST ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD. ON CEDAR SPRINGS, THERE'S A KROGER AND A SMALL DALLAS LIBRARY BRANCH.

AND ON MANY DAYS AT THIS SITE, IT LOOKS LIKE A MENTAL HOSPITAL OPENED ITS DOORS AND RELEASED THE PATIENTS AND CRIMINALS.

THE LIBRARY HAS BURGLAR BARS NOW TO PREVENT CAMPING AND A FULL TIME COP MONITORING THE LABORATORIES INSIDE FROM BECOMING A BIOHAZARD ZONE.

KROGER HAS A SECURITY GUARD NOW WITH A FIREARM AND A BULLETPROOF VEST.

HOMELESS PEOPLE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHOM ARE WORKING IN MILITARY AGE.

MEN WHO ARE ABLE BODIED WITH ALL LIMBS INTACT, DON'T WORK, DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAXES, AND NOT ONLY DON'T CONTRIBUTE IN ANY WAY POSITIVELY TO DALLAS, BUT THEY RAPACIOUS DEPLETE PUBLIC SERVANTS TIME AND TAXPAYER FUNDED RESOURCES.

ASK ANY FIRST RESPONDER, EMERGENCY ROOM NURSE, CONVENIENCE STORE CLERK, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER OR PEDESTRIAN IN ANY COUNCIL DISTRICT ABOUT THE PROLIFIC NUISANCE AND DANGER OF HOMELESSNESS.

THE TOP ISSUE CITYWIDE. DOWNTOWN DALLAS RECENTLY RELEASED A REPORT ON CRIME AND DISTRICT 14.

SPECIFICALLY, DOWNTOWN OFFERED DEEPLY TROUBLING, THOUGH HARDLY SURPRISING, DATA.

69% OF VIOLENT CRIME ARRESTS DOWNTOWN IN 2024 WERE COMMITTED BY HOMELESS PEOPLE.

I, FOR ONE, AM SICK OF HAVING TO PAY PHONY LIP SERVICE AND FEIGN EMPATHY FOR THIS INCORRIGIBLE GROUP.

EVERY SO-CALLED SOLUTION, FROM SHELTERS TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

THEY DON'T WORK. EVIDENTLY, THEY'VE BEEN TRIED AND FAILED TO THE TUNE OF TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THESE NON SOLUTIONS AND THIS LOYALTY TO DYSFUNCTION HAS ONLY SUCCEEDED IN GROWING THE PROBLEM.

WITH JUST THREE MINUTES I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS.

PLEASE. LET'S REDIRECT OUR EMPATHY TO THE TAXPAYERS OF DALLAS AND NOT WAIT UNTIL THE WORLD CUP TO DO A TEMPORARY VANITY SWEEP.

AND WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO SOLVE HOMELESSNESS.

WITH 800 FEWER POLICE ON THE ROSTER THAN WHAT DALLAS CRITICALLY NEEDS AND WHAT VOTERS DEMANDED ON NOVEMBER 5TH.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. THANK YOU.

MIRIAM SHARMA.

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I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THIS COUNCIL AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY.

NEXT WEEK, BEGINNING MONDAY, AUGUST 25TH, WE WILL BE RECOGNIZING SMART WEEK.

IT'S A WEEK THAT'S DEDICATED TO AMPLIFYING THE IMPORTANCE OF SECURE STORAGE OF FIREARMS IN HOMES AND VEHICLES.

AS A VOLUNTEER WITH OUR LOCAL DALLAS MOMS DEMAND ACTION FOR GUN SENSE IN AMERICA AND B SMART TEAM HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AT A VARIETY OF EVENTS LIKE THE MAYOR'S FAIR AT THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST AND BACK TO SCHOOL EVENTS LIKE THE ONE NEXT TO LAST WEEKEND AT THE JUANITA CRAFT RECREATION CENTER, WHERE I SAW MANY FAMILIAR FACES.

ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND. OUR LOCAL VOLUNTEERS, MANY OF THEM HERE TODAY, GIVE OUT FREE GUN LOCKS TO DALLAS AREA RESIDENTS AND OFTEN DELVE INTO COMPLEX CONVERSATIONS SURROUNDING SAFETY AND GUNS. THE TAKEAWAY IS THAT EVERYONE WANTS TO LIVE A HAPPY, HEALTHY AND SAFE LIFE. AND WE ARE HERE TO HELP WITH THAT.

ON BEHALF OF OUR LOCAL DALLAS BE SMART TEAM, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AS CITY LEADERS AND HELPING US AMPLIFY THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFETY FOR EVERYONE. OUR B SMART ACRONYM HELPS TO GUIDE US.

THE S PROMOTES SECURE STORAGE OF GUNS IN HOMES AND VEHICLES.

THE M PROMOTES MODELING RESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR AROUND GUNS, SUCH AS NOT TREATING A HANDGUN AS A TOY AND NOT LEAVING IT IN A PLACE WHERE A CHILD COULD GAIN ACCESS. THE A ENCOURAGES PARENTS AND GUARDIANS TO ASK BEFORE SENDING THEIR CHILD TO SOMEONE ELSE'S HOME IF THEY HAVE A GUN, AND IF IT IS STORED SECURELY. THE R ENCOURAGES ALL OF US TO RECOGNIZE THE ROLE OF GUNS AND SUICIDES, SINCE WE KNOW THAT SUICIDES MAKE UP MORE THAN HALF OF THE GUN DEATHS IN TEXAS.

AND FINALLY, THE T AND THE SMART ACRONYM ENCOURAGES ALL OF US TO HAVE THESE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GUN SAFETY WITH OUR FRIENDS, FAMILY MEMBERS, NEIGHBORS, AND COLLEAGUES. AS A NURSE AND AS A MOTHER, MY GOAL IN DOING THIS WORK IS SAFETY.

I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THE SMART, WEAK PROCLAMATION WAS DENIED AT THE CITY LEVEL, EVEN THOUGH THE DALLAS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COURT APPROVED THEIR VERSION LAST WEEK. AS LOCAL VOLUNTEERS, WE WANT TO SAVE LIVES IN A RESPONSIBLE, NONPARTISAN WAY.

I INVITE YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS DECISION AND RECOGNIZE SMART WEEK TO HELP KEEP MORE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE BY CONTINUING TO MAKE SECURE STORAGE OF FIREARMS AND THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN, THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY A TOP PRIORITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MICAELA GUTIERREZ TILLETT.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JOHNSON, MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER TOLBERT, I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS, FUNDING OF THE COMMUNITY ARTS PROGRAM, CULTURAL VALUE AND ARTS ACTIVATE.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING. AUTOZONE, ESTABLISHED IN 2005, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY ON AUGUST 8TH AUGUST 2025, WE ALL OF OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE RECEIVED AN EMAIL MESSAGE FROM THE OHC FUNDING PROGRAMS THAT ALL FUNDING HAVE BEEN OF ACCEPTANCE TO NOTIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN DELAYED DUE TO. CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED RESOLUTION NUMBER 25, 1081 ON JUNE 25TH.

EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND MAYOR JOHNSON AND CITY MANAGER TOLBERT IN YOUR HANDS, YOU SHOULD HAVE SIX PAGES A PRESENTATION OF AUTOZONE WORK THAT ENTAILS EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE RELENTLESSLY WITH THE OFFICE ARTS AND CULTURE THESE RECENT SIX YEARS, WE HAVE PROVIDED SERVICES, OPPORTUNITIES, HOPE, RESOURCES AND CELEBRATION FOR MANY UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IN OAK CLIFF, PLEASANT GROVE, SOUTH DALLAS, VICKERY MEADOW, REDBIRD, CEDAR CREST, WOLF CREEK, AND SO MANY MORE.

SUSPENDING OR DELAYING OUR ART PROGRAM FUNDING HORRIBLY IMPACTS NOT SOLELY AUTOZONE.

IT AFFECTS OVER 800 ARTISTS, OVER 10,000 STUDENTS TO GUESS WHO NEED SPIRITUAL HEALING AND URGENT RESOURCES FOR MANY COMMUNITIES OF DALLAS.

ART ISN'T SOLELY ENTERTAINMENT, IT'S A FOUNDATION TO OUR CULTURAL ROOTS EDUCATIONAL CONNECTION FOR GROWTH, COMPASSION FOR HUMANITY, AND OUR TRUE UNDERSTANDING TO LIVING.

AUTOZONE HAS LED MANY WORKSHOPS, PERFORMANCES, HOSTING SPECIAL EVENTS TO MENTORING, SUPPORT AND GUIDANCE THE NEXT GENERATION OF ARTISTS, TEACHERS AND LEADERS. ONE OF THEM WHO I HAVE TODAY IS CHARLOTTE CRAWFORD, WHO IS FROM PLEASANT GROVE.

OUR WORKSHOP ATTENDEES AGE RANGES FROM FOUR YEARS OLD TO 92 YEARS OLD, DIFFERENT CULTURAL BACKGROUNDS AND LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS WHERE TRANSPORTATION IS A BIG CHALLENGE. SO PROVIDING PROGRAMS THAT ARE LOCALLY NEARBY AT WALKING DISTANCE, BUS OR TRAIN IS EVERYTHING.

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IF YOU WERE SILENT ABOUT YOUR PAIN, THEY'LL KILL YOU AND SAY YOU ENJOYED IT.

BY ZORA NEALE HURSTON. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GIVING US THE TIME TO.

LISTENING INTENTLY. MY NAME IS MICAELA GUTIERREZ TILLET, FOUNDER OF AUTOZONE.

WE ARE MANY CULTURES, ONE STYLE. ESTABLISHED IN 2005, IN DALLAS, TEXAS AND I SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES YOU'VE GIVEN US.

BUT TAKING IT AWAY, I COULDN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY KIDS ARE GOING TO GET HURT BECAUSE WE KNOW WHEN THINGS STOP, HOW THINGS PROGRESS FORWARD, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE TAKE ACTION.

AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND PREVENTATIVE.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THESE ARE YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

MAYOR PURPOSE I MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO ALLOW THE OTHER DALLAS BASED SPEAKERS TO SPEAK.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED.

WE'LL HEAR ALL THE REMAINING SPEAKERS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JAIME CASTRO.

GOOD MORNING. I'M JAIME CASTRO, PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS POLICE ASSOCIATION, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR OPPORTUNITY.

THE OPPORTUNITY. TO TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL THIS MORNING.

THE OTHER DAY I CAME ACROSS A MEME OF ALL THINGS THAT THAT REALLY HIT HOME.

IT WAS A POST AND A MEME. IN THIS POST, IT TALKED ABOUT WATER, OF ALL THINGS.

IT SAID A BOTTLED WATER AT A GENERAL STORE RUNS ABOUT A DOLLAR, RUNS ABOUT $5 AT A MOVIE THEATER, AND ABOUT $10 ON A PLANE. IT ISN'T THAT THE BOTTLE OF WATER IS IS DIFFERENT.

IN FACT, IT'S THE SAME. NAME. IT'S THE LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.

IT WENT ON TO SAY, KNOW YOUR WORTH AND SURROUND YOURSELF WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW YOUR WORTH AND VALUE AND THE VALUE THAT YOU BRING TO THE TABLE. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU TODAY THAT THE DALLAS POLICE ASSOCIATION HAS MADE SURE THAT OUR MEMBERSHIP KNOWS THEIR VALUE. AND THE WORTH THAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE. THEY KNOW. AND THEY'RE WATCHING EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM.

YOUR CONSTITUENTS KNOW OUR VALUE AND OUR WORTH.

IN FACT, THEY OVERWHELMINGLY SAID IT WHEN THEY VOTED AND PASSED PROPOSITION YOU OVERWHELMINGLY.

THEY KNOW. 40% OF OUR OFFICERS ARE LEAVING WITH FIVE YEARS OR LESS, AT A TUNE OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, 275,000 PER OFFICER TO TRAIN THEM.

AND THEY'RE LEAVING. WHY ARE THEY LEAVING? THEY'RE LEAVING FOR CITIES AND DEPARTMENTS AND AGAIN.

UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THEIR VALUE, AND THEY COMPENSATE THEM ACCORDINGLY.

THEY'RE GOING TO PLACES WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT.

A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK FOR IT.

IT'S GIVEN TO THEM. I IMPLORE YOU, I IMPLORE THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER. DON'T BE THE GENERAL STORE.

DON'T BE THE GENERAL STORE. THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JANUARY. VAUGHN.

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I AM PARTNERS WITH DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES, WHERE I CURRENTLY PULL DOGS, POWER BREEDS, AND THE MOST NEGLECTED.

ON AUGUST 11TH, I HAPPENED TO BE PICKING UP A DOG WHO NEEDED EMERGENCY CARE.

UNFORTUNATELY, I CAME UPON A SCENE THAT NEEDED FURTHER INVESTIGATION.

I LATER FOUND OUT WITH FACTS AND EVIDENCE THAT THESE TWO DOGS, SPOT AND JAKE, WERE ADOPTED TO HOG HUNTERS.

WE DO NOT PERSONALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOG HUNTING, AS WE KNOW THE NUISANCE AND THE EXPENSES THAT THEY COST.

HOWEVER, USING OUR SHELTER DOGS IN SUCH A VILE WAY IS ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE IN ANIMAL WELFARE. DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES CANNOT CALL ITSELF AN ANIMAL SHELTER.

ADOPTING DOGS INTO THE HANDS OF KNOWN HOG HUNTERS.

ANIMAL WELFARE MEANS PROTECTING DOGS FROM CRUELTY, NOT SENDING THEM INTO TO VIOLENT, INHUMANE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY ARE FORCED TO FIGHT HOGS FOR SURVIVAL. TEXAS PENAL CODE IS CLEAR 42.092.

IT PROHIBITS CRUEL TREATMENT OF ANIMALS KNOWINGLY PLACING THEM IN HARM'S WAY.

BY ALLOWING THESE ADOPTIONS, DAS HAS DIRECTLY VIOLATED THE VERY STATUES MEANT TO PROTECT THESE DOGS.

THE CITY HAS A LEGAL AND MORAL OBLIGATION TO UPHOLD THE LAW, NOT TO IGNORE IT.

DIAZ CLAIMS TO BE ABOUT SAVING LIVES. YET THIS PRACTICE SHOWS ME, IN ALL OF YOU, THE VERY OPPOSITE. THESE ARE NOT JUST PLACEMENTS. THESE ARE DEATH SENTENCES DRESSED UP AS ADOPTIONS.

IF DIAZ TRULY CARED FOR THE DOGS IN ITS CARE, THEY WOULD SCREEN ADOPTERS PROPERLY AND PREVENT THEM FROM FALLING INTO THE HANDS OF HUNTERS WHO EXPLOIT THEM AND STARVE THEM. THE PUBLIC.

YOU'VE BROKEN OUR TRUST. CAN IT BE REBUILT? ABSOLUTELY.

BUT HOW? HOW? HOW CAN WE REBUILT THE TRUST NOW WITH THE PUBLIC AND THE TAXPAYERS MONEY? MY MONEY? I DEMAND IMMEDIATE SCREENING PROCESSES SO THAT THESE DOGS WILL NEVER BE PLACED WITH HOG HUNTERS AGAIN. THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BRIAN. TONY.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WITH ME TODAY IS SARAH JUAREZ, A SENIOR PLANNING STUDENT AT CAL POLY, A HILLCREST HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE AND DISTRICT SIX RESIDENT, ONE OF OUR DALLAS HOUSING COALITION INTERNS.

WE'VE PREPARED THIS PRESENTATION IN THE ONE PAGER BEFORE YOU TODAY TO CONNECT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS BUDGET AND OUR ZONING.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS DIAGRAM BEFORE. THIS ALL COMES FROM TEXAS 2036 CRONENBERG URBAN ARCHITECTS AND CHARITABLE TRUSTS.

YOU'LL HEAR RESIDENTS. SOME OF THEM SAY THEY WANT STABLE SERVICES, LOW DENSITY AND LOW TAXES.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DOES NOT EXIST. YOU'LL EITHER HAVE HIGH TAXES OR YOU WILL HAVE SERVICE CUTS, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY TODAY. THIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE 14 DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS AND SERVICES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE ARE RESIDENTS, WHICH LEADS TO A HIGH TAX BURDEN ON A SMALL NUMBER OF HOMES.

TAKE THESE TWO HOMES, WHICH ARE, LET'S SAY HALF A MILLION, A MILLION .35 ACRES EACH.

YOU'LL ONLY HAVE SINGLE FAMILY ONLY HOUSING. YOU HAVE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE, COST PER UNIT, LESS REVENUE TO PAY FOR IT, AND LEADING US TO A FINANCIAL DISASTER OR SCARCITY OR MUCH HIGHER RISK OF.

INSTEAD, WE COULD HAVE MORE HOUSING CHOICES. WE COULD HAVE LESS INFRASTRUCTURE COST PER UNIT, MORE TAX REVENUE TO PAY FOR IT, AND HAVE A FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE AND ABUNDANT CITY.

NOW, IF WE HAVE INSTEAD OF THOSE TWO HOMES, 13 HOMES ON THE SAME PARCEL OF LAND, YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES.

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SO IF YOU THROW THAT IN AND ALLOW A LITTLE BIT OF WALKABLE RETAIL, YOU GO FROM $1.35 MILLION VALUE AND YOUR TAXABLE BUDGET TO 6.193 FOR SINGLE FAMILY PLUS TO OVER $910 MILLION WITH THAT WALKABLE RETAIL.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GONE FROM THIS SCARCITY MINDSET WHERE WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT SERVICES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COST, HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR OUR PARKS, OUR POTHOLES AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND WE GO TO AN ABUNDANCE MINDSET WHERE EVERYONE THE CITY, YOU, ME, SARA HAS WHAT THEY NEED AND CAN THRIVE.

SO THE CHOICE IS YOURS. BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE'RE SAYING NO TO MORE HOUSING THAT IS CONVENIENT AND CONNECTED, WE'RE SAYING YES TO CONTINUING DOWN A MORE POOR FINANCIAL PATH.

SO AS THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT PRESENTS TODAY, I HOPE YOU'LL KEEP AN OPEN MIND.

THE ZONING REFORM DISCUSSIONS WILL BE HARD, AND WE'LL BE LEADING COMMUNITY TALKS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TO HAVE THEM IN EACH OF YOUR DISTRICTS. WE'D LOVE YOUR HELP SHARING THE WORD. GOOD LUCK BALANCING THE BUDGET TODAY AND THE REST OF THE TIME THIS MONTH.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TODAY. THANK YOU.

THIS CONCLUDES YOUR CITY OF DALLAS REGISTERED REGISTER SPEAKERS.

THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CONCLUSION OF TODAY'S CITY BUSINESS.

TO CLARIFY WHAT WAS THE MOTION FOR DALLAS ONLY? OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR VOTING AGENDA. THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 6TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING MEETING.

[1. 25-2195A Approval of Minutes of the August 6, 2025 City Council Briefing Meeting]

CORRECT. BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN MOVE TO APPROVE.

IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR THIS AGENDA, MR. MAYOR. THERE ARE NO BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS.

THEREFORE YOUR BRIEFINGS CONTINUE. WONDERFUL.

[A. 25-2291A Dallas Zoning Reform Updat]

IT HAS BEEN NEARLY 50 YEARS SINCE DALLAS LAST UNDERWENT A MAJOR REVISION TO ITS DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND OVER THE YEARS, THE CITY HAS MADE NUMEROUS SMALL CHANGES, LEAVING THE CODE DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE, UNPREDICTABLE IN ITS OUTCOMES, AND CHALLENGING TO ADMINISTER AND ENFORCE.

AND SO WE HAVE RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR COMPREHENSIVE REFORM.

THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A CONSULTANT CONTRACT WITH CAMERAS ON JUNE THE 14TH OF 2023, AND THE GOAL WAS TO BEGIN THE CREATION OF A CODE THAT IS SIMPLE, CLEAR AND FUTURE READY.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RELEASED A DEVELOPMENT CODE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT PREPARED BY CAMERAS, WHICH PROVIDES A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF THE CITY'S CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS, EVALUATES HOW THEY FUNCTION, AND IDENTIFIES AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT. THESE FINDINGS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH A SERIES OF IN-PERSON AND VIRTUAL MEETINGS OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

AND SO TODAY, WE WANTED TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AND PRESENT THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT.

SHARE AN UPDATE ON THE ZONING REFORM ENGAGEMENT PLAN AND OUTLINE THE NEXT STEPS IN THE ZONING REFORM PROCESS.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR DIRECTOR OF THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, MISS EMILY LIU. THANK YOU EMILY. GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU. SYDNEY TO HOBART. HONORABLE MEYER AND ALSO MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR CONSULTANTS FROM A PLANNING AND ZONING FIRM BASED IN CHICAGO.

CAMERA HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES OF ALL SIZES, FROM SMALL TOWNS TO MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREAS AND COUNTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. OUR PRESENTER TODAY AS RISKED AS DUNGEONS SITTING NEXT TO ME.

SHE'S A PRINCIPAL AND PARTNER AT THE FIRM WITH OVER 25 YEARS OF ZONING EXPERIENCE.

SHE IS LEADING OUR ZONING REFORM EFFORT ON THE CONSULTANT SIDE.

JOINING HER TODAY IS CHRIS JEANETTE SITTING NEXT TO HER.

HE IS ALSO A PRINCIPAL WHO BRINGS MORE THAN 12 YEARS OF PLANNING AND ZONING EXPERTISE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE TO HELP ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. WITH THAT, OUR TURN TO ARISTA. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE THIS MORNING.

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PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR.

SO MANY OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN SOME OF THE MEETINGS OR ATTENDED SOME OF THE MEETINGS WE HAD BACK IN JUNE.

IT IS THE DALLAS ZONING REFORM. SIMPLE. CLEAR FUTURE.

READY? LOOKING TO STREAMLINE THE REGULATIONS THAT REDUCE THAT CREATE THIS UNNECESSARY COMPLEXITY.

MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THESE RULES ARE AND THEN FUTURITY DESIGN FOR THE DALLAS THAT WE'RE BECOMING.

NOT. THE DALLAS OF YESTERDAY IS THE CURRENT TAGLINE.

SO WHAT ARE THE OBJECTIVES? FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'RE LOOKING AT FORWARD DALLAS AND THE GUIDANCE THAT GIVES US IN TERMS OF ZONING AND LAND USE DIRECTIONS. SO HELPING TO IMPLEMENT THAT OBVIOUSLY, FOR DALLAS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND AS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S JUST THAT COMPREHENSIVE.

SO WE'RE ONLY KIND OF IMPLEMENTING ONE SMALL PART OF THAT.

A LOT OF THIS IS REALLY TO MAKE A CODE THAT'S MORE USER FRIENDLY, THAT CAN BE EASILY UNDERSTOOD BY VARIOUS PEOPLE WHO PICK IT UP, WHETHER IT BE A DEVELOPER, A PROPERTY OWNER, A RESIDENT, SOMEONE LOOKING TO DO BUSINESS CREATING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR DIVERSE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. PROMOTING SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT DEVELOPMENT.

INTEGRATING OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS SO THAT EVERYTHING, INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

GETS ELEVATED TO THIS HIGHER QUALITY OF DESIGN.

REDUCING DEPENDANCE ON PROCESS APPROVALS. AND INCREASING THE TRANSPARENCY OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

APPROVALS AS WELL. SO HERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

AS YOU CAN SEE WE'RE VERY EARLY. WE'RE IN PHASE ONE AT THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC STAGE WHICH HAS BEEN RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC.

AND AS YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD MEETINGS IN JUNE REGARDING PRESENTING THAT OUT THERE.

I'LL GO THROUGH THIS IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES, KIND OF IN MORE DETAIL TO KIND OF SHOW HOW THE TIMELINE IT'S SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED, BUT KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THAT. I'LL FOLLOW THAT UP SHORTLY.

JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, AND IN PARTICULAR ANYBODY WHO'S WATCHING AT HOME, ALL OF THIS MATERIAL IS AVAILABLE ON DALLAS ZONING REFORM.COM.

IT'S THE PROJECT WEBSITE. YOU SEE THE EXAMPLES HERE.

IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THE, THE THAT ARROW THERE IS SHOWING THAT THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC ITSELF IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AND THAT YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT THERE.

READ IT THERE. REALLY COME TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE APPROACHES THAT WE'VE PUT OUT SO FAR THE SITE ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THE INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS, IN ADDITION TO THE PRESENTATIONS, A COUPLE OF WEBINARS WE DID ARE ON THERE AS WELL.

WE WILL VERY CONSISTENTLY BE UPDATING THIS WITH EVEN MORE INFORMATION THERE.

THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO COMMENT. SO WE HOPE THAT PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH THE WEBSITE THAT WAY AS WELL.

SO WHAT IS A CODE DIAGNOSTIC? IT'S REALLY A SERIES OF PROPOSALS AND APPROACHES THAT WE'VE PUT FORWARD TO GATHER ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON SO WHAT GOES INTO IT? FIRST OF ALL, IT'S REALLY AN IN-DEPTH REVIEW OF THE REGULATION.

SO IT'S CHRIS AND I SITTING DOWN WITH THE BOOK AND REALLY COMING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS ARE.

WE DID HAVE SOME STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2023 WITH SOME TECHNICIANS WHO DO USE I'M NOTICING THE SLIDE HAS NOT CHANGED YET.

THERE WE GO. OKAY, I'LL SLOW DOWN. THIS'LL FORCE ME TO SLOW DOWN.

I'M A FAST TALKER. SO WE DID THESE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS ONE ON ONE LISTENING SESSIONS WITH FOLKS THAT USE THE CODE QUITE FREQUENTLY.

JUST TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF KIND OF THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THAT. AND THEN WE HAD A SERIES OF IN-DEPTH DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF WHO USED THE CODE ON A DAILY BASIS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT ISSUES ARE COMING UP WITH THAT.

SO AS WE DID THIS, THIS REALLY FED INTO THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC ITSELF, THE REPORT THAT WE PUT OUT AND WHAT'S IN THIS.

IT'S REALLY IDENTIFYING CURRENT ISSUES, BEST PRACTICES.

HOW DOES THE CODE LINE UP WITH OR NOT LINE UP WITH SOME OF THE BEST PRACTICES? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE COMMON SPECIAL APPROVALS THAT COULD BE TRANSLATED INTO STANDARDS TO MAKE THEM WORK BETTER, MORE EFFICIENTLY? AND THEN IT PRESENTS THESE CONCEPTS AND REGULATORY APPROACHES THAT SET THE DIRECTION FOR CODE DRAFTING.

AND REALLY THE INTENT OF THIS. AND IT SAYS WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THESE MEETINGS? OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE THIS IS FROM BACK IN JUNE.

IT'S REALLY TO GATHER FEEDBACK ON THE APPROACHES THAT WE'VE PUT FORWARD.

WE UNDERSTAND SOME OF THEM MAY BE CONTROVERSIAL.

WE MAY NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF SOMETHING WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AND REALLY GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW PEOPLE ARE REACTING TO THESE APPROACHES, BECAUSE THIS WILL CHANGE HOW WE DO THE DRAFTING. THE DIAGNOSTIC ISN'T SET.

IT'S A PROPOSAL. TO THAT END, THE PROPOSAL WILL NOT THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC WILL NOT BE REVISED.

IT'S REALLY JUST OUT THERE TO GATHER FEEDBACK.

AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO TAKE COMMENTS ON THAT AS WELL.

SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DIDN'T COME TO THE 35 MINUTE PRESENTATION OF WHAT'S IN THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC, I'LL DO A SHORTHAND VERSION OF THIS, REALLY JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE KEY THINGS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC.

ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND, WE KNOW THERE'S SOME RECENT TEXAS LEGISLATION THAT'S GONE THROUGH.

IT MAY IMPACT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT WE'VE PROPOSED IN THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC.

WE'RE CONTINUING TO STUDY THAT AND LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALIGNING WITH WHAT THE STATE HAS NOW REQUIRED.

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SO THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC OVERVIEW. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS ABOUT THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION OF THE CODE.

LIKE I SAID, WE WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT'S CLEAR. IT'S GOT A GRAPHIC ORIENTATION THAT EVERYBODY THAT PICKS IT UP CAN KIND OF FIND THEIR WAY THROUGH IT.

YES. IT'S A TECHNICAL DOCUMENT. YES, IT'S A LEGAL DOCUMENT.

BUT WE REALLY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE TO TO ANYBODY WHO'S LOOKING TO DO SOME DEVELOPMENT OR SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR HOME.

AS PART OF THAT, WE'VE PROPOSED TO TAKE ALL THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION RULES AND MOVE THEM INTO A NEW CHAPTER 63.

FOLKS HAVE BEEN ASKING, WHY IS IT 63? IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE NEXT AVAILABLE NUMBER IN THE CITY CODE.

NO, NO SIGNS BEHIND THAT. IT WAS JUST. IT'S OPEN, SO WE'RE TAKING IT.

CERTAIN THINGS WOULD REMAIN BEHIND IN 51 A, WHICH ARE THINGS LIKE FLOODPLAIN AND CERTAIN THINGS RELATED TO THOROUGHFARES.

THOSE AREN'T PART OF THIS PROJECT. THEY WOULD STAY THERE, BUT THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION WOULD COME TOGETHER IN CHAPTER 63.

WE'VE PROPOSED AN APPROACH TO USES THAT SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND.

YOU SEE AN EXAMPLE OF A USE MATRIX THERE ON THE SLIDE.

PUTTING EVERYTHING IN THERE, I CAN SEE IF I'M IN A DISTRICT, WHAT USES I'M ALLOWED TO HAVE.

IF I WANT TO OPEN A BUSINESS, I CAN FIND IT IN THAT USE SECTION AND GO ACROSS AND SEE WHAT DISTRICTS WOULD ALLOW ME TO OPEN UP THERE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DEFINING EVERY ONE OF THESE TO CREATE LESS INTERPRETATION, LESS ADMINISTRATION ON THAT END, AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE REMOVING ANY KIND OF INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN THE USES.

SO OBVIOUSLY CLEAR DEFINITIONS, CLEAR STANDARDS, ALL OF THEM IN ONE PLACE RATHER THAN BY DISTRICT, MAKES IT A MUCH EASIER DOCUMENT TO HANDLE. WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT THE SIMPLIFICATION OF APPROVING VARIOUS USES.

THIS IS THINGS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THESE LIMITED AREA, I THINK THERE'S LIKE DIR ARE VARIOUS TYPES OF APPROVALS.

WE WOULD BUILD THOSE STANDARDS INTO THE USES IN PARTICULAR TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY.

AND THEN FINALLY ONE OF THE ONES, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON ENDING THE REQUIREMENT FOR RENEWAL OF THE SUP.

THIS IS A VERY KIND OF UNIQUE PROVISION TO DALLAS.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT ANYWHERE ELSE. TYPICALLY, SPECIAL PERMITS JUST RUN WITH THE RUN WITH THE USE.

RUN WITH THE LAND. THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO A RENEWAL.

IT CAN CREATE A MORE UNPREDICTABLE ENVIRONMENT.

SO THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING POTENTIALLY TO REMOVE THAT RENEWAL COMPONENT OF THE SUP OR THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT IN TERMS OF THE DISTRICTS. AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK AS WELL.

SIMPLIFYING AND STREAMLINING THE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST.

SO KEEPING THEM AS SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS WITHIN THE CODE.

ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE PROPOSED TO ADD NEW DISTRICTS.

SO YOU HAVE THAT OPTION ARE THE GENERAL DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

SO THIS WOULD BE A MIX OF THINGS LIKE SINGLE FAMILY, TWO FAMILY, THREE FAMILY, FOUR FAMILY EVEN.

SO THAT AS AREAS ARE READY TO TRANSITION INTO THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE THE TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX ALREADY READY TO GO.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE IT OUT ON THE FLY. SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE PROPOSED.

WE HAVE NO AREAS THAT WE THINK WHERE THIS WILL GO.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE KNOW KIND OF FOLLOWING ISSUES OF AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING DIVERSITY, THAT PROVIDING THAT TOOL IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE SO THAT YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO RESORT TO PD AND YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO RESORT TO KIND OF MAKING UP A DISTRICT WHEN THAT COMES TO PASS.

AND THIS WOULD KIND OF ALSO INTEGRATE IN WITH YOUR CURRENT DUPLEX AND TOWNHOUSE DISTRICTS.

WE WANT TO FINE TUNE THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE TOWNHOUSE DISTRICTS MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE REALLY RESPONSIVE TO THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S SOME SIMPLIFICATIONS THERE. WE THINK THAT CAN REALLY MAKE THEM WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

CREATE COMMERCIAL MIXED USE DISTRICTS THAT REFLECT THE SCALE AND FUNCTION OF THE VARIOUS ACTIVITY CENTERS HERE IN DALLAS.

SO IT'S REALLY JUST LOOKING AT KIND OF ALL THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE COMMERCIAL AND MAKING A GRADATION OF THEM SO THAT YOU CAN FIT ANY KIND OF ACTIVITY CENTER AREA THAT YOU'VE GOT IN PLACE. UPDATING THE RANGE OF THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS IN ADDITION TO THAT, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY TRULY REFLECT THEIR INDUSTRIAL CHARACTER. IN SOME CASES, IT'S REALLY JUST RENAMING THEM TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

AND THEN ENSURING THAT THE SPECIAL PURPOSE AND OVERLAY DISTRICTS ARE REALLY ADDRESSING THE UNIQUE, SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT THEY WERE BUILT FOR.

IN MANY CASES, FOR THOSE WE PROPOSED NOT REALLY MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THOSE THINGS LIKE THE CD.

WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT, SO IT'S REALLY JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY ALIGN WITH THE REST OF THE CODE AND THEY'RE ALL SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE. I THOUGHT I HAD IT TIMED, BUT WE'RE KIND OF AS WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON THAT POPS UP.

WHAT WE'LL SEE THERE IS THERE'S DISTRICT CONTROLS THAT WE WANT TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE WORKING WELL.

CLEARLY DEFINING SETBACKS AND YARDS KIND OF THE SETBACK BEING THE REQUIRED DIMENSION, THE YARD BEING THE ACTUAL AREA BETWEEN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THE LOT LINE.

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ANOTHER ONE THAT'S HAD QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK ON THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE.

WE THINK THAT THERE MAY BE BETTER WAYS, MORE CONTEXT BASED WAYS TO ADDRESS THOSE ADJACENCY ISSUES, IN PARTICULAR AGAINST SINGLE FAMILY. SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING LIKE THAT INTO THE CODE THAT WORKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND IS EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THAN THE PES LOOKING AT AS WE TWEAK ALL THE KIND OF DIFFERENT DISTRICT CONTROLS KIND OF MOVING AWAY FROM MORE OUTDATED MEASUREMENT STYLES LIKE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE FAR.

WE'VE GOT WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTROL THAT, THAT ARE REALLY MORE KIND OF SENSITIVE TO KIND OF THE BUILDING VOLUME, THE DESIGN ON THE LOT. AND THEN, AS I SAID, KIND OF EARLIER, ADDING DESIGN STANDARDS TO THE DISTRICT SO THAT BASICALLY HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT IS COMING UP EACH TIME. GENERAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THESE ARE REALLY KIND OF EVERYTHING ELSE ASIDE FROM THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING.

AND WHEN YOU KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT IT, YOU'LL SEE IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE EXTERIOR LIGHTING, CONTROLS ON ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, MAKING SURE WE'RE CONTROLLING ALL THE DIFFERENT ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.

I KNOW YOU'VE JUST BEEN THROUGH A BIG PARKING REFORM INITIATIVE AND THAT GOT PASSED.

SO WE'LL BE ALIGNING WHAT WAS DONE IN PARKING REFORM WITH THE REST OF THE CODE.

ENSURING THAT LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, THAT THEY'RE COMPREHENSIVE, THEY'RE ADDRESSING THOSE AREAS OF A SITE WHERE WE NEED LANDSCAPE AND THEN REGULATING THE SIGNS BY THE TYPE AND LOCATION TO FIT EACH DISTRICT'S FORM AND FUNCTION.

SO THE SIGNS SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT KIND OF HOW THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER.

AND THEN FINALLY THE LAST PART OF THE DIAGNOSTIC GOES INTO ADMINISTRATION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT KIND OF KEEP US, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE SIMILAR CITY TO CITY IN TEXAS BECAUSE THEY COME DOWN THROUGH THE STATE.

BUT CERTAIN THINGS WE THINK CAN BE KIND OF TWEAKED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO, TO THE CODE TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE NIMBLE. REMOVING LIMITS ON WHAT TYPES OF VARIANCES CAN BE GRANTED.

BECAUSE REALLY THE THE ESSENCE OF A VARIANCE IS YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THIS SITUATION WAS AND THAT'S WHY YOU NEED THE VARIANCE.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT THAT IN PLACE.

ADDING AN OPTION FOR A SMALL ADMINISTRATIVE MODIFICATION.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT DURING THE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT DURING THE MEETINGS.

ALLOWING THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO ALLOW CERTAIN THINGS TO BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

THERE WOULD BE CLEAR THRESHOLDS AS TO WHAT THOSE ARE AND WHEN THEY CAN HAPPEN.

JUST MAKING SURE SITE PLAN REVIEW IS WORKING PROPERLY.

WHEN IS IT REQUIRED? HOW IS IT DONE? AND ENSURING SUBDIVISION PROCESS IS OBJECTIVE AND PREDICTABLE.

PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF 1200 OF THEM.

WE HAVE AN ASSOCIATE BACK IN CHICAGO WHO IS, I THINK WHEN I LAST TALKED TO HIM, HE IS ON NUMBER 891 OF REVIEWING THEM SO THAT WE CAN GET KIND OF AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING INTO THESE THESE PDES.

AND IT'S A GOOD TOOL AND WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING TO GET RID OF PD.

WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THERE IS REALLY TO KEEP PD TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE PROCESS, BUT REALLY WOULD JUST BE FOLLOWING THE WAY IT DOES NOW, BUT TO REDUCE ITS RELIANCE ON IT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MANY, IT STARTS TO SHOW THAT SOMETHING'S OFF IN THE CODE.

THE CODE'S NOT ALLOWING YOU TO DO THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF WE STILL HAVE THAT TOOL.

IT'S WORKING PROPERLY, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM RELYING ON IT TO GET ANY KIND OF ZONING DONE.

AND THEN FINALLY, NONCONFORMITY IS PROVIDING CLEAR RULES ON EACH OF THE TYPES OF NONCONFORMITY.

SO THAT BE STRUCTURES USES SITE ELEMENTS, WHICH BE THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPING LOTS AND SIGNS AND MAKING SURE ALL THOSE RULES ARE CLEAR. AND FINALLY, WE HAD PROPOSED SOME LIMITED FLEXIBILITIES FOR EXISTING NON-CONFORMING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

ESSENTIALLY, IF THE WALL IS A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH INTO THE SIDE YARD OR THE REAR YARD, BUT SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT, ALLOWING THEM TO DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO GET A VARIANCE? AGAIN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE CODE, EVERYTHING IN THE DISTRICT.

AND SO IT'S REALLY ESSENTIAL THAT THAT'S VERY CLEAR, BUT GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY AND ENCOURAGES REUSE OF THE HOUSES.

SO ENGAGEMENT TO DATE. JUST TO KIND OF FILL YOU IN ON WHAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.

SO THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC ITSELF WAS RELEASED IN MARCH OF 2025.

WE DID A PRESENTATION TO THE ZODIAC IN MARCH OF 2025.

TO KIND OF GO OVER THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC. THERE WERE TWO PRESENTATIONS TO THE CPC BOTH IN JUNE, KIND OF BOOKENDING THE VARIOUS MEETINGS THAT WE WERE THERE AT.

AND THEN WE DID PUBLIC MEETINGS. WE DID FIVE PUBLIC, FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS HERE IN DALLAS IN THE FIVE GEOGRAPHIC AREAS, PLUS TWO WEBINARS, ONE IN THE AFTERNOON, ONE IN THE EVENING.

ALTHOUGH ALL TOLD, FROM OUR HEADCOUNT 517 PEOPLE ATTENDED.

THAT INCLUDES THE WEBINAR FOLKS AS WELL. AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS.

SO AT THESE MEETINGS WE RECEIVED 70 WRITTEN COMMENTS.

WHICH IS GREAT. AS OF JULY 25TH, IN TERMS OF EMAILS THAT HAVE COME IN REGARDING COMMENTS ON THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC,

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WE'VE GOT 15 COMMENTERS AS OF 812. SO AUGUST 12TH, I THINK CHRIS AND I WERE JUST TALKING AND I THINK THERE'S FOUR MORE PEOPLE.

SO REALLY IT SHOULD BE ABOUT 19. SOME FOLKS HAVE LEFT MULTIPLE COMMENTS, BUT WE'RE JUST COUNTING THE NUMBER OF COMMENTERS HERE.

SO THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS ENGAGEMENT IS HAPPENING WITH A DIVERSE GROUP OF FOLKS.

SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE I KIND OF ALLUDED TO SOME OF IT AS I WENT OVER THE MAIN POINTS OF THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC.

THERE IS A VERY THEY FOLKS REALLY WANT THIS PROCESS TO BE TRANSPARENT, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING SAID.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING VERY OPEN AND HONEST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD IS CONCERNS. CONCERNS ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROTECTING THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

PROTECTING THEIR CHARACTER. SO THAT IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT.

THERE IS SUPPORT THAT WE ARE GETTING FOR MORE HOUSING OPTIONS, FOR LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE THE GENTLE DENSITY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WHERE IT'S THAT KIND OF TWO, TWO DUPLEXES, TRIS QUADS COULD HAVE MIXED IN WITH SINGLE FAMILY.

WE'VE ALSO HEARD, YOU KNOW, ADUS, BIG ISSUE SUPPORT AND CONCERN FOR THOSE.

SO SOME WANT THE OPTIONS OF BEING ABLE TO MORE EASILY PUT AN ADD ON THEIR LOT.

OTHERS ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT ADUS COMING INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO YOU'RE SEEING A LOT ON BOTH SIDES WHEN WE GET TO THESE REALLY CORE ISSUES.

YOU SEE IT AGAIN, SUPPORT AND CONCERN REGARDING THE ELIMINATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE AND HOW THOSE TRANSITIONS TO SINGLE FAMILY WOULD BE HANDLED.

WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF A TECHNICAL THING THAT I THINK WE CAN WORK HARD TO KIND OF SHOW HOW WE CAN MAINTAIN THOSE PROTECTIONS.

SUPPORT AND CONCERN REGARDING THE ELIMINATION OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.

THE SUP. SO REALLY KNOWING THAT THAT CAN CONTROL SOME REALLY NASTY USES, THERE'S THERE'S A VALUE.

SOME FOLKS SEE A REAL VALUE IN THAT, WHILE OTHERS SEE CONCERNS IN TERMS OF KEEPING IT THAT IT'S CREATING AN UNPREDICTABLE APPROVAL ENVIRONMENT.

A LOT OF CONCERN REGARDING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL.

WE KNOW THAT'S AN ISSUE. WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THAT.

WE KNEW THAT WAS KIND OF OUT THERE, BUT WE REALLY GOT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION REGARDING THE TYPES OF INDUSTRIAL THAT ARE SITTING THERE.

AND THEN CONCERN REGARDING THE RELATIONSHIP TO, TO FORWARD DALLAS.

SOME HAVE EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION WITH FOR DALLAS PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY MAY BE HAPPY WITH THE OUTCOMES OF IT.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF COMING ON TO US AS WELL AND TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING KIND OF MOVING FORWARD? SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE WANTED TO ANNOUNCE, IT IS UP ON THE WEBSITE AND THE LINKS TO GO THERE ARE ON THAT WEBSITE.

WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE SEPTEMBER SERIES. WE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS I MENTIONED BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2023.

SO WE'RE OPENING UP ANOTHER ROUND TO ANYBODY.

IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THE SIGN UP SHEET IS AVAILABLE.

THE LINK TO GET TO THE SIGN UP IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE DALLAS ZONING REFORM.COM.

WE ARE FOLLOWING THE EXACT SAME PATTERN THAT WE DID WHEN WE DID THOSE FIRST STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS IN DECEMBER.

30 MINUTE SESSIONS. THESE ARE LISTENING SESSIONS.

WE'RE NOT MAKING PRESENTATIONS. WE'RE REALLY INTENDED TO COME THERE AND LISTEN TO WHAT FOLKS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT CURRENT ZONING.

I MEAN, THEY'VE SEEN THE DIAGNOSTIC, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN COMMENT ON THAT, BUT WE'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING TO GET MORE FEEDBACK.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD SOME PEOPLE SIGN UP SO WE KNOW IT WORKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME FOLKS ON THERE ALREADY.

BUT THIS WILL BE HELD 30 MINUTE SESSIONS. WE'VE SCHEDULED OUT PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE DAY ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, SEPTEMBER 11TH AND SEPTEMBER 16TH. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SLOTS AVAILABLE.

WE ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO'S LISTENING TO GO ATTEND THOSE IF THEY WANT TO TALK TO US.

SO REALLY, IT'S WE'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE DID WITH THOSE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS.

WE'RE JUST DOING IT AGAIN AND OPENING IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RELEASE MORE INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL. KIND OF WHAT IS ZONING? WHAT IS THE ZONING MAP? THESE ARE KIND OF VERY BASIC THINGS, BUT REALLY TACKLING SOME OF THE KEY ISSUES THAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT.

SO WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON PUTTING THOSE TOGETHER. THE BE BOTH WRITTEN.

SOME MAY BE SMALL VIDEOS, SOME MULTIMEDIA. AND THEN WE PROPOSE TO CLOSE THE COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC ON OCTOBER 3RD.

NOW, JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, IT'S JUST CLOSING THE COMMENT PERIOD FOR THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC ON THAT DATE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'LL TAKE WHAT WE HAVE AND WE WILL POST THE COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, IT'LL TAKE US A LITTLE WHILE TO GET THEM ORGANIZED AND GET THEM POSTED UP ON THE WEBSITE.

BUT ALL THE COMMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED UP TO THAT DATE WOULD BE POSTED ON THE ON THE SITE.

THAT COMMENT FORM STAYS OPEN. IT'S NOT LIKE ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CAN'T COMMENT ON ANYTHING.

WE ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO COMMENT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, BUT WE NEEDED A DEADLINE TO CUT OFF FOR THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC AND THE ABILITY TO POST THOSE COMMENTS. BUT THE FORM REMAINS OPEN. SO AS YOU SEE HERE IN THE TIMELINE, WE'VE GOT THE THE RELEASE WE STARTED HERE, THE RELEASE IN MARCH OF 2025. WE DID THE INITIAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

WE'RE DOING THE SEPTEMBER SERIES. WE'RE PREPARING THIS INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THAT COMMENT PERIOD ON OCTOBER 3RD SO THAT WE CAN POST THE

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FOLLOWING THAT, AGAIN, JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, THE COMMON FORM REMAINS OPEN.

WE'RE TAKING COMMENTS THIS WHOLE TIME. THEN AS WE MOVE TO PHASE TWO, I DIDN'T CLICK FAST ENOUGH.

THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE'VE SEEN THINGS SHIFT.

WHEN I WAS AT PUBLIC MEETINGS, IF YOU WATCHED ANY OF THOSE OR IF YOU WERE THERE, I SAID, END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL BE COMING OUT WITH A DRAFT. THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

REALLY? THAT HAD TO BE PUSHED. WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO SOME MORE FOLKS.

WE HEARD CONCERNS. WE HAVE TO DO THE SEPTEMBER SERIES.

WE HAVE TO GET THE PROPER INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL OUT.

SO THAT THAT WE'VE BLOWN PAST THAT DEADLINE. SO THAT WON'T BE HAPPENING.

SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO START DRAFTING IN THE FALL, TAKING US THROUGH THE SPRING TO REALLY CONTINUE TO RELEASE INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL, KEEP THE CODE IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT WE'LL BE DRAFTING THAT FIRST PUBLIC DRAFT IN SPRING SUMMER OF 20 2026. THAT IS WHEN WE ARE ANTICIPATING A PUBLIC DRAFT NUMBER ONE.

AND AGAIN, PUBLIC DRAFT, NOT AN ADOPTION DRAFT, IS REALLY JUST OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT AND COMMENT ON.

WE'LL BE DOING OPEN HOUSES. WE CALL IT THE ROADSHOW, GOING EVERYWHERE TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THIS.

MEET ONE ON ONE WITH FOLKS DURING THESE OPEN HOUSE MEETINGS REALLY GET THAT ENGAGEMENT GOING AND GET PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IN THIS DRAFT AND HOW THEY CAN LEAVE US COMMENTS.

THAT TAKES A WHILE. SO WE'LL BE DOING THAT UP UNTIL, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE START, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT KIND OF FALL AND WINTER OF 22 2026.

CAN'T SAY IT FOR SOME REASON. AND TO REALLY LOOK AT PUBLIC DRAFT 2.0 AGAIN, IT'S A PUBLIC DRAFT.

IT WILL BE RED LINE. IT WILL SHOW THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE FROM PUBLIC DRAFT 1.0.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S STILL NOT EVEN THE ADOPTION DRAFT. BUT WE WANT TO START LOOKING AT THAT IN THE WINTER OF 2026 TO SHOW.

HEY, WE'VE BEEN LISTENING. THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. AND THEN FINALLY PHASE THREE, THE HOPE IN THE TIMELINE IS OBVIOUSLY IF WE NEED TO LISTEN MORE AND TIMELINES GET PUSHED, THEY GET PUSHED.

WE COME TO COUNCIL CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL.

THAT STARTS A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROCESS. THAT'S THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THAT'S COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. THAT'S KIND OF A WHOLE DIFFERENT KIND OF PROCESS THAT THAT KICKS OFF AT THAT POINT.

TO ACCOMPLISH THIS PART OF OUR TEAM ALSO INCLUDES ZOE COMMUNICATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S HERE, OKAY? HE'S NOT HERE.

OKAY. FRANKIE DIDN'T MAKE. ZOE COMMUNICATIONS, LOCAL DALLAS FIRM.

LOCAL ENGAGEMENT FIRM THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH.

THEY WERE ESSENTIAL TO THESE MEETINGS THAT WE DID.

THEY WERE A MASSIVE HELP. THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US PREPARE A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT THERE.

THEY'LL BE HELPING WITH THE INFORMATIONAL MATERIAL.

REALLY? EVERYTHING TO GET US TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, TO HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF ZONING.

AND THEY'VE STARTED IN ON SOME OF THIS COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COME OUT OF IT.

THE GOAL IS REALLY TO BUILD TRUST AND INCREASE UNDERSTANDING OF ZONING REFORM BY CONNECTING IT TO RESIDENTS EVERYDAY LIVES THROUGH CONSISTENT, COMMUNITY CENTERED COMMUNICATIONS. THROUGH THESE MEETINGS, THROUGH WORKING WITH ZOE, WE'VE KIND OF CITED SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE NEED TO CONSTANTLY BE AWARE OF. AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE ROLE OF ZONING.

ANY RESIDUAL CONCERNS FROM FORWARD DALLAS TO BE MINDFUL OF THOSE? MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS IS TRANSPARENT AND THEN ENSURE THE ENGAGEMENT IS MEANINGFUL SO THAT AS WE'RE RECEIVING COMMENTS, WE'RE GIVING SOMETHING BACK THAT FOLKS ARE AWARE OF.

ZONING REFORM IS THE CITY BUILDING DONE RIGHT AND DONE TOGETHER.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AS THE WHOLE CITY. EVERYBODY HAS A ROLE IN THIS.

SO REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING TO EVERYONE.

DALLAS IS A BIG PLACE WITH A LOT OF LITTLE PLACES IN IT.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK TO EVERYBODY THAT IS IN THERE.

THAT IS IN THE CITY. IN ADDITION TO THESE FORMAL EVENTS WHICH WE TALK ABOUT IS KIND OF THE SPINE OF THE SCOPE, WHICH IS THINGS LIKE MEETINGS AND WORKSHOPS AND OPEN HOUSES.

THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT GOING AROUND EACH OF THOSE STEPS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH ZOE TO CONTINUE TO FLUSH THIS OUT.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE KIND OF THE THREE PHASES THAT WE'VE PUT THINGS INTO.

SO THIS IS IN ADDITION TO KIND OF THE FORMAL PUBLIC MEETINGS OF FORMAL OPEN HOUSES.

ZONING 101. THIS IS PHASE ONE, THE DIAGNOSTIC STAGE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IS ZONING? IT'S TALKING ABOUT THOSE HANDOUTS. IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE VIDEOS THAT WE CAN PRODUCE TO HELP FOLKS UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING INTO ZONING AND REGULATION, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT POLICY IN PHASE TWO, ZONING IN YOUR CITY. THIS IS KIND OF THE PRERELEASE AND THE RELEASE OF DRAFT 1.0.

KIND OF LOOKING AT WAYS TO CREATE MORE LISTENING SESSIONS TAKING THE ZONING CODE ON TOUR WE SAW KIND OF A COOL EVENT IN THE PARK,

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I KNOW THAT'S WHAT CHILDREN LOVE TO COME TALK TO YOU ABOUT ZONING.

SO, YOU KNOW AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE KIND OF BRINGING IN THE, THE STORIES WE'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY IN PHASE TWO IN THIS COMMUNITY STORYTELLING OPTION. AND THEN FINALLY, AS THAT DRAFT IS OUT THERE CONTINUING TO DO THINGS AGAIN, ARE STRUCTURED AROUND THE FORMAL EVENTS.

BUT IN ADDITION TO VIRTUAL MEETINGS LOOKING FOR INTERACTIVE ACTIVITIES THAT CAN KIND OF MAKE THAT MAKE THE ZONING CODE KIND OF REFLECT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING. SO WE CAN HEAR AND WE CAN SHOW THEM THAT THE ZONING CODE IS ACTUALLY REFLECTING THE THINGS THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THEM.

AND WITH THAT, ALL OF THAT. THAT BRINGS US TO THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.

AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SOME TAKERS ALREADY. MR. WEST, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC.

WE ARE ON TODAY'S BRIEFING ITEM, A BRIEFING ITEM A.

TAKE IT AWAY, MR. WEST. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH ME AND MY STAFF TO TO KIND OF GO OVER THIS.

SO, I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THIS IS A PROTRACTED TIMELINE BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A IS A TOUGH ISSUE TO TALK ABOUT. IT'S A SCARY ISSUE TO TALK ABOUT, AT LEAST IN MY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS AND FEEDBACK FROM FROM OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID THE ORIGINAL CODE WAS DRAFTED IN 1965.

IS THAT RIGHT? DO WE KNOW HOW OLD IS THE CODE? THE FRAMEWORK WAS DRAFTED IN 1960. YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THEN THEY DID SOME CHANGES IN THE 1980S. SO CORRECT.

THIS IS 60 YEARS OLD FRAMEWORK WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

SO WHY WHY WOULD WE WANT TO UPDATE SOMETHING THAT'S A 1960S DOCUMENT.

WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT. I GUESS IT'S A LITTLE BIT RHETORICAL, BUT I MEAN THE CITY HAS CHANGED SINCE.

I THINK I ALWAYS SAID I'M RELATIVELY NEW TO DALLAS.

I LOOK AT THE CODE AS A PLANNER FOR 30 YEARS.

I FEEL THAT CODE IS HOLDING US BACK. JUST ONE SENTENCE HOLDING US BACK.

THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES OVER THE YEAR, LIKE LITTLE BANDAID HERE AND THERE.

MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT THE CODE. YOU GO THROUGH THE CODE AND THE INCONSISTENCIES AND ALSO JUST A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT VERY CLEAR AND COMPLEX AND IT DOES NOT WORK VERY WELL.

AND THAT IS THE REASON WE HAVE SO MANY PDS AND PEOPLE TRY TO GET AROUND IT.

YOU CAN LOOK AT A CITY CODE IN ANY OTHER CITY.

LOOK AT THEM. AND WHEN THEY HAVE A LOT OF PD LIKE US, IT'S PROBABLY INDICATION THE CODE DOES NOT WORK IN A COMPLICATED CODE.

DOES NOT JUST MAKE IT HARD FOR THE BIG DEVELOPERS, IT MAKES IT HARD FOR THE GUY TRYING TO BUILD A FENCE OR REPAIR A ROOF, RIGHT? MAKES IT HARDER. IT'S EVEN EVEN HARDER FOR PLANNERS TO UNDERSTAND, TO LOOK AT THEM, TO MAKE SURE WE WE INTERPRET IT. RIGHT. AND THERE'S YES.

EVERYBODY HAVE A LITTLE HARD TIME? DO WE KNOW THE POPULATION OF DALLAS? WHEN THE CODE WAS FIRST PASSED, I HAVE THAT. DO YOU? I DO, I DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

AND I LOVE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS.

EVEN WHEN WE DID PARKING. YES. THE POPULATION OF DALLAS, LIKE I WOULD SAY FROM THE 60S, FOR INSTANCE, WE WERE NUMBER 14TH POPULATION WISE IN THE US.

IT WAS OVER A LITTLE UNDER 700,000 PEOPLE, AND NOW WE'RE AT 1.3 MILLION.

AND THERE WAS AN UPDATE IN THE 80S. DO WE HAPPEN TO KNOW THE POPULATION WHEN.

YES, IT WAS 900,000. AND WE HAVE HOW MANY PEOPLE NOW? 1.3 MILLION. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE LIVING OFF OF CODE WITH A LITTLE AROUND HALF OF WHAT THE POPULATION IS IN DALLAS NOW.

SO THERE'S THAT. ALONE IN MY MIND IS A NEED TO UPDATE IT AND WORK THROUGH THE COMPLEXITIES THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN THE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. WHAT ABOUT STATE LEGISLATION? DO WE KNOW HOW THE THE CHANGES IN STATE LEGISLATION LIKE SB 840 AND OTHER BILLS THAT ARE IMPACTFUL ON OUR CURRENT ZONING, HOW THAT WILL IMPACT THIS? THERE ARE TWO SPECIFIC BILLS THAT WILL HAVE HUGE IMPACT ON THIS SENATE BILL.

840 AND SENATOR BILL 815 I'M SORRY. 15 840 BASICALLY ADDRESSES THE MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE MULTIFAMILY, BASICALLY SAYING ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND OTHER CITY A CERTAIN SIZE,

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SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS A HUGE IMPACT ON THE STATE OF DALLAS.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE DID AS A CONSULTANT TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE ZONING REFORM, SO THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED HERE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT LAW WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST AND WE MUST COMPLY WITH IT.

SO NEXT WEEK YOU WILL SEE THERE IS ORDINANCE CHANGE.

CHAPTER 52, WE'RE GOING TO BRING TO CITY COUNCIL TO ASK YOU TO AUTHORIZE THE BUILDING CODE OFFICIAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE BUILDING PERMITS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE SAME ZONING REVIEW THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THE IN THE PAST SENATE BILL 15 IS PROMOTE SMALL LOT AND SMALL HOMES. IF YOU ARE FIVE ACRES OR MORE OR HAVE NEVER BEEN PLATTED, WE MUST ALLOW SMALL HOMES AND SMALL LOT. THE SMALL LAW. WE CANNOT REGULATE MORE THAN 3000FT².

SO YOU HAVE TO BE ALLOWING THE RESIDENTIAL LOT TO BE AS SMALL AS 3000FT CANNOT BE MORE THAN 30FT WIDE OR 75 DEEP. SO THERE'S A LOT MORE IN THAT. WE FOR THE SENATE BILL 840, WE'VE BEEN STUDYING THAT.

WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THAT, WE'VE BEEN STUDYING THAT, AND WE HAVE RELEASED OUR INFORMATION SHEET JUST THIS WEEK TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE TO STAFF AS WELL AS OUR CUSTOMERS. I'LL GO BACK FOR A SECOND TO SENATE BILL 840, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE I'M MOST FAMILIAR WITH AT THIS POINT.

BECAUSE OF THE HAMPTON CLARENDON FUND CASE WE HAD LAST TIME.

WILL WE, AS WE LEARNED, OR AS LEAST I LEARNED IN THE THROUGH THAT PROCESS IS THE W MU THREE ZONING, WALKABLE MIXED USE, THREE ZONING THAT WE PUT IN PLACE KIND OF HELPED MITIGATE SOME OF THE IMPACTS OF SB 840 BY LOWERING THE HEIGHT A LITTLE BIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS REQUEST.

HELPED WITH THE SETBACKS A LITTLE BIT IN TRANSPARENCY.

WILL CODE REFORM HELP US SORT OF MITIGATE SOME OF THE THE HARSHER IMPACTS OF SB 840, OR DO WE KNOW YET? THAT'S POSSIBLE. THAT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS DETERMINED BY THE HEIGHT OF THAT ZONING DISTRICT.

SAY, IF IT'S RIGHT NOW IS 45, IT CANNOT BE LOWER THAN 45.

IT'S RIGHT NOW IS 45 IS 45 IS 75. THEN YOU HAVE TO ALLOW UP TO THAT.

BUT I THINK THERE MIGHT BE THINGS WE LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE PUTTING SOME STANDARDS THAT IN AS PART OF THAT INTEGRATION.

BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK THAT CLOSELY AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ZONING REFORM.

AND I KNOW STATE LAW DOESN'T GO AHEAD. I KNOW, AND WE'RE STILL STUDYING THE BILL, SO I'M JUST BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

AND I KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS THEY TALK ABOUT AND AT LEAST SOME OF THEM ABOUT DESIGN ELEMENTS YOU CAN OR CAN'T CONTROL, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OUT THERE THAT YOU CAN. SO SPEAKING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WITH THE KIND OF FORM ELEMENTS THAT ARE EMBEDDED IN WMU, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, AS I TALKED ABOUT, KIND OF BRINGING IT ACROSS THE BOARD TO ALL THE COMMERCIAL SO THAT WE'VE GOT THINGS LIKE TRANSPARENCY AND ARTICULATION AND ENTRIES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS ARE YOU'RE MITIGATING A BIGGER BUILDING THROUGH DESIGN ELEMENTS.

AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL THE DISTRICTS.

WHEREAS WE KNOW SB 840 DOESN'T HAVE REALLY ANY DESIGN ELEMENTS, RIGHT.

LIKE, THERE'S NO IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT ALLOWING THE MAXIMUM YOU CAN BUILD.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING FOR US AS A COUNCIL TO JUST BE AWARE OF AS WE SLOW THIS DOWN.

AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T, BUT AS WE SLOW THIS DOWN TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF MEETINGS, I KNOW THERE ARE ALREADY CASES BEING WITHDRAWN FROM CPC BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUILD BUY RIGHT WITH SB 840, AND SO THERE IS A RUSH TO BUILD RIGHT NOW UNDER SB 840.

AT LEAST I THINK THERE MIGHT BE. WE GOT TO BALANCE THAT RISK OF HAVING SOME ARCHITECTURALLY QUESTIONABLE THINGS BEING BUILT WITH OUR DESIRE TO SLOW THIS DOWN.

I'M NOT SAYING SPEED IT UP. I DON'T WANT TO BE QUOTED SAYING THAT, BUT IT IS A BALANCING ACT THAT WE NEED TO BE VERY AWARE OF.

IN MY OPINION IF I HAVE A NEIGHBOR AND I'M SURE I'M GOING TO HAVE QUITE A FEW THAT ARE SAYING, WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO MY SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD? AND I WANT TO LEARN ALL ABOUT THIS, AND I WANT TO HAVE MEETINGS.

HOW HOW'S WHAT DO I TELL THAT NEIGHBOR? LIKE, I CAN HOST TOWN HALLS, BUT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO IN YOUR ROAD SHOW?

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INITIALLY IT REALLY WAS LOOKING. WE THE WAY THAT WE HAD STRUCTURED IT OUT IS AT LEAST ONE IN EVERY DISTRICT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN THAT. THERE'S OTHER GROUPS THAT MAY WANT TO MEET. THERE MAY BE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT WANTS TO MEET WITH US. WE'RE HERE TO MEET WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO TALK TO US.

AND WE'RE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS STRUCTURED, BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ENHANCE THAT AS WE NEED TO SO THAT WE CAN REACH EVERYBODY THAT WE NEED TO REACH.

GREAT. OKAY. SLIDE SIX, YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE UTILIZING BEST PRACTICES.

WHAT WHERE WHERE ARE THE BEST PRACTICES? WHAT WHAT IS THAT REFERENCE? THAT'S REALLY JUST OVER. I MEAN, OVER TIME OF ZONING UPDATES OCCUR AS CODE WAYS TO TECHNIQUES TO DO ZONING EVOLVE.

THAT'S REALLY WHERE BEST PRACTICES COME FROM. CHRIS AND I HAVE A YOU KNOW, I HAVE 25 YEARS, 12 YEARS. WE'VE WORKED ON CITIES, BIG AND SMALL ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT WORKS AND BUILDING ON THAT.

THE WAY WE APPROACH IT, WE LOOK, WE TAKE A KIND OF HYBRID APPROACH, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THE TECHNIQUES THAT HAVE COME OUT OF FORM BASED CODING, OUT OF PERFORMANCE CODING, OUT OF TRADITIONAL CODING, AND KIND OF BRING THEM ALL TOGETHER TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS IN THE ISSUES THAT ARE HERE.

BEST PRACTICES JUST IN AND OF ITSELF IS KIND OF A NEBULOUS TERM, BUT IT REALLY IS JUST TAKING THE BEST THINGS THAT ZONING HAS TO OFFER AND BRINGING THEM TO ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC ISSUES AND CONDITIONS THAT ARE HERE IN DALLAS.

THANK YOU. AND TWO MORE QUESTIONS ON SLIDE SEVEN.

YOU MENTIONED THAT I THINK I HEARD YOU RIGHT.

CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, HISTORIC DISTRICTS WILL NOT BE TOUCHED BY THIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? WE ARE NOT UPDATING ANYTHING FOR THOSE.

IF THERE'S ANY PART OF, SAY, THE PROCESS OF HOW THEY GET APPROVED NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED, WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT.

BUT WE'RE NOT. THOSE ARE APPROVED AND ON THE GROUND AND WE'RE NOT CHANGING THOSE.

SO I'LL JUST ASK DIRECTOR LOO THEN. I KNOW ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS I'VE HAD FROM MY MY CONSTITUENTS IS THAT IT TAKES TOO LONG TO INITIATE AND GET A CONSERVATION DISTRICT THROUGH. IS THAT SOMETHING STAFF IS LOOKING AT SINCE THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS? YES. THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE'LL WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CAPACITY, BUT JUST SHIFTING AROUND A LITTLE BIT.

AND STAFF IS WAITING TO DO MORE TO GET SOME OF THOSE GOING.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED ABOUT 840 AND 815.

SO THE EIGHT 840 DOES IMPACT CITYWIDE CITYWIDE PD LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE PARKING REFORMS THAT PD DOESN'T APPLY DOES NOT APPLY.

IT DOES APPLY TO THOSE DISTRICT AS WELL. PDS CONSERVATION DISTRICT HISTORIC PRESERVATION DISTRICT CONTINUE BECAUSE THAT'S AN OVERLAY. YOU DO DECIDE YOU CAN CONTINUE, BUT ANYWHERE, ANYWHERE THAT OFFERS RETAIL EVEN WAREHOUSE ALLOWED EVEN APPLIES. A40 SO A LOT OF CONSERVATION IS RESIDENTIAL, BUT IF IT'S ALLOWED COMMERCIAL, IT ALSO APPLIES.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT IT IS ACCURATE TO TELL MY RESIDENCE IN THE CONTEXT, BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AND A COUPLE OF HISTORIC ONES, I CAN SAY THIS CODE REFORM IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT YOU.

THEY'RE VESTED. THEY'RE VESTED. SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

THANK YOU. AND THEN LAST THING IS, IS WE'VE SEEN FROM THE FACT THAT OUR CURRENT CODE IS 60 PLUS YEARS OLD. OLD THAT WHATEVER WE PASS HERE, WHATEVER WE INITIATE, COULD BE IN PLACE FOR GENERATIONS IN THE FUTURE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, HOW DO WE ENGAGE WITH YOUTH? BECAUSE WHAT WE PASS HERE IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO IMPACT FOLKS WHO ARE YOUNGER THAN US UP HERE AT THE HORSESHOE, THE TEENAGERS, THE ELEMENTARY KIDS, THE HIGH SCHOOLERS, THE COLLEGE KIDS, AND THE FIRST TIME HOMEBUYERS, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THEY ARE ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS AND WE HEAR FROM THEM? WHAT DO YOU WANT YOUR CITY TO LOOK LIKE IN 30, 50 YEARS? THAT IS SOMETHING. IN WORKING WITH ZOE COMMUNICATIONS, WE'VE KIND OF WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK AT TARGETED CROWDS.

THAT IS SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THEM. WE'RE KIND OF WORKING ON WHAT STRATEGIES AND WHAT WE WOULD DO TO KIND OF ACCESS THAT THAT GROUP AND GET THEM INTERESTED AND HAVE THEM TALK TO US OLD PEOPLE ABOUT ZONING. BUT WE NEED TO KIND OF WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH FRANKIE AND FELICIA THERE TO REALLY GET THAT.

BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY ON OUR RADAR ALREADY. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND GOOD MORNING. I CAN APPRECIATE THE VERY BRIEF BRIEFING FOR A VERY COMPLICATED

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AND SO I WANT TO START THERE WITH FEEDBACK AND HOW WE CAPTURE COMMENTS, HOW WE CAPTURE THE RESIDENTS COMMENTS AND CONCERNS WHEN WE GO TO FORWARD DALLAS. WHAT WE SAW IS PEOPLE THAT RAISED THEIR CONCERN THAT THEY SPOKE UP ON WHAT WAS WORRISOME TO THEM, BUT IT WASN'T CAPTURED OR TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE CAPTURING ALL THE INFORMATION OR THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS RECORDED.

HOW ARE WE DOING A RECORD KEEPING? AND THEN CAN THOSE RECORDS BE PROVIDED TO FULL COUNCIL? SURE. SO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WERE NOT RECORDED.

WE WERE TAKING NOTES AT THOSE MEETINGS TO HEAR THE CONCERNS.

BUT WHAT WE'VE EMPHASIZED FROM THE BEGINNING AND WHAT IS CRITICAL TO A ZONING UPDATE PROCESS BECAUSE OF ITS TECHNICAL NATURE, IS WE NEED WRITTEN COMMENTS SO THAT WE CAN CAPTURE EXACTLY WHAT SOMEONE WANTS US TO KNOW.

WE EMPHASIZE THAT THROUGHOUT THE MEETINGS THAT THERE ARE VARIOUS WAYS TO DO THIS.

YOU CAN COME ONTO THE WEBSITE, USE THE COMMENT FORM, YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL THAT GOES TO THE CITY STAFF AND THEN OVER TO US.

WE HAD WRITTEN COMMENT CARDS AT THE MEETINGS.

WE CATALOGED THOSE. AND THAT WILL AND YOU COULD COME DOWN TO CITY HALL AND DROP A PIECE OF PAPER OFF AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THAT ALSO WORKS AS WELL. ALL OF THOSE ARE BEING CAPTURED AND PUT INTO SPREADSHEETS.

SO THAT'S HOW WE KNOW THE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE.

AS I SAID AGAIN EMPHASIZING EVEN THE WEBSITE SPEAKS ABOUT THIS, THE IMPORTANCE OF WRITTEN COMMENTS.

AS I SAID, WE'LL CLOSE THE COMMENTS ON OCTOBER 3RD WHICH IS THE LAST DAY FOR COMMENTS ON THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC.

AGAIN, NOT CLOSING THE COMMENTS IN GENERAL. YOU CAN KEEP COMMENTING ON OCTOBER 4TH, BUT WE NEED A WE NEED A CUTOFF DATE FOR POSTING.

WE WILL POST EVERYTHING WE RECEIVE BY EMAIL, THROUGH THE COMMENT FORM AND THE COMMENT CARDS THAT WE RECEIVED.

WE WILL IN KIND OF PROBABLY A WEEK OR TWO RIGHT AFTER THAT DATE.

POST ALL THOSE COMMENTS SO FOLKS CAN SEE THEM.

WELL, REDACT ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION. WE WILL ALSO REDACT ANY UNNECESSARY INSULTS THAT COME THROUGH BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE VERY CONFIDENT BEHIND A KEYBOARD. SO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AND GET ALL THOSE PUT UP SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE THOSE COMMENTS.

BUT WE REALLY DO NEED TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN AND AGAIN WE NEED WRITTEN COMMENTS ON THIS.

THANK YOU. AND AS FAR AS BEST PRACTICES ON PAGE SIX, IS THAT BEST PRACTICES FROM A A PLANNERS PERSPECTIVE OR BEST PRACTICES FROM A COMMUNITY'S PERSPECTIVE? IT'S BEST PRACTICES FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S JUST PART OF THE FIELD, JUST KIND OF AS.

AS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE OURSELVES. SPECIALIST IN THE ZONING.

FIELD WORK. WE DISCOVER NEW TECHNIQUES. WE FIND NEW WAYS TO ADDRESS ISSUES.

WE DEAL WITH COMPLICATED SITUATIONS WITH, YOU KNOW, LEGISLATION COMES DOWN.

IT'S JUST BEST PRACTICES IN THE FIELD. THANK YOU.

THERE'S A CONSIDERATION FOR NON-RENEWAL FOR SUE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH. IT'S A BIG TOOL THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, AND SOMETHING THAT IS SOMETIMES A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH.

AND SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE THEY'RE A GREAT TOOL RIGHT NOW.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REVIEWING THAT CAUTIOUSLY.

UNDER THE TERM OF GENTLE DENSITY. CAN YOU DEFINE THAT, PLEASE? IT IS LESS A TECHNICAL TERM AND MORE JUST A WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.

IT'S INTEGRATING DIFFERENT TYPES OF KIND OF SMALLER SCALE HOUSING TOGETHER.

SO AS I TALKED ABOUT, IT'D BE SINGLE FAMILY. TYPICALLY TWO FAMILY.

THREE FAMILY. EVEN UP TO QUADS. ALLOWING FOR THINGS LIKE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

SO YOU GET THIS MIX OF, OF DWELLING TYPES KIND OF WITHIN THE DISTRICT ITSELF.

SO IT'S NOT JUST STRICTLY ONE TYPE OF DWELLING.

AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT RECOMMENDING WHERE THAT WOULD GO, BUT IT'S KIND OF, I GUESS, ORGANICALLY GOING TO HAPPEN.

WHO DECIDES EVENTUALLY WHERE THOSE GENTLE DENSITY HAPPENS? YOU DO. THE COUNCIL DOES. IT'S ALL OF YOU THAT DECIDE WHERE THAT GOES.

WHAT WE PREPARE THE TAX, WE CREATE THE DISTRICTS, WE'VE GOT THEM THERE.

WE CAN'T CHANGE OUR ANY OF THOSE DISTRICTS ARE. THAT'S A WHOLE SEPARATE PROCESS TO APPROVE CHANGES TO THE MAP, WHICH HAS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGES.

IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ANY CHANGES TO THE MAP ARE GOING TO BE A PUBLIC PROCESS WITH NOTIFICATION TO THE PUBLIC THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THEN IT COMES, YOU KNOW, GOES THROUGH THE HEARING PHASE AND COMES BEFORE YOU TO MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION.

OKAY. WHEN IT COMES TO DEFINING SETBACKS, BUILDING SETBACKS.

RIGHT NOW, AT TIMES WE USE THE AVERAGE WHERE WE USE THE THE ACTUAL SETBACK.

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SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE AND WHY AT IT TODAY? IT'S REALLY JUST MEANT TO DEFINE THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE SETBACK SO THAT THERE'S A CLEAR THAT THINGS ARE JUST VERY CLEARLY DELINEATED AS THE FRONT, THE INTERIOR SIDE, THE CORNER SIDE AND THE REAR.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE KEY PART OF DEFINING KIND OF WHERE THOSE GO.

WE DO TALK ABOUT KIND OF IN THE, IN THE BIGGER PRESENTATION THAT WE DID BACK IN JUNE, KIND OF ISSUES OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF REALLY BRINGING IN THAT FRONT YARD AVERAGING PROVISION TO KIND OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE IT COULD MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF HOW THESE HOUSES ARE CONSTRUCTED. SO REALLY MEMORIALIZING THAT AND THEN JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR HOW THAT'S DONE, I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT THAT IS. OKAY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE CRITICAL NO MATTER HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

I UNDERSTAND THAT RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE CAN BE COMPLICATED, AND SO I'M HOPING THIS IS A WAY TO STREAMLINE IT AND GET A BETTER MEASUREMENT FROM THAT.

ALL RIGHT, I THINK THAT'S. WELL, I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH HAS THE CITY GROWN SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT THIS WAS UPDATED? IT JUST PUT THE MAP AWAY. SO I WAS JUST BRAINSTORMING THIS AND WE WILL MAKE A MAP.

YES, WE DID ANNEXATIONS. AND I THINK THE ANNEXATION STOPPED WHEN STATE LAW BASICALLY TOLD US THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO IT.

AND I THINK THE LAST ANNEXATION WE DID WAS IN THE 70S WITH THE CLIPPERS.

SO I'M ASSUMING YOU REFER TO TERRITORY, NOT POPULATION.

SO WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AT IS SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT WE UPDATED OUR ZONING, HAS THE CITY OF DALLAS GROWN SINCE THAT DATE.

POPULATION WISE? YES. I JUST GAVE THE NUMBERS FROM 900 TO 1.3 MILLION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MISS BLAIR, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM EIGHT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M GOING TO START WITH WITH GIVE ME SOME GOOD EXAMPLES OF CITY STATEWIDE AND NATIONWIDE THAT ARE COMPARABLE TO US WHO ARE RECENTLY REFORMING THEIR ZONING CODE.

AND HOW LONG DID IT TAKE THEM TO DO SO? INTERESTING QUESTION.

OKAY. SO COMPARABLE TO DALLAS, ONE OF THE MOST RECENT ONES WE DID, WE DID THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE FOR CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. FAST GROWING BIG CITY. I THAT ONE TOOK NO SEA.

IT'S GOING TO SOUND TERRIBLE. THAT ONE TOOK SIX YEARS.

BUT MIDWAY THROUGH THE PROCESS, THEY STOPPED AND THEN TOOK TWO YEARS, TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO MAKE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND THEN WE PICKED BACK UP. SO THAT'S WHY THAT PROCESS TOOK SO LONG, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T.

THEY ACTUALLY, CHARLOTTE NEVER HAD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EVER.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THE BIGGER CITIES THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THAT HAVE DONE IT.

I WORKED IN NEW ORLEANS. WE DID A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE FOR THEM.

THAT PROCESS TOOK ABOUT FOUR YEARS, BUT THAT WAS ALSO DONE IN CONCERT WITH CREATING A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLACES LIKE KNOXVILLE AND CHATTANOOGA, TENNESSEE, I KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER.

THOSE PROCESSES TAKE ABOUT THREE YEARS. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF OTHERS.

YEAH. I MEAN, I'D SAY THAT THEY KIND OF SIGNIFICANTLY VARY JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND THE AMOUNT OF ENGAGEMENT THAT THAT YOU NEED TO DO.

AROUND, I WOULD SAY 24 MONTHS IS SOMEWHAT TYPICAL, JUST DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF YOUR CITY.

WE'VE HAD SOME THAT HAVE BEEN AS QUICK AS 14 MONTHS.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, PROVIDENCE, RHODE ISLAND WAS A SUPER FAST PROCESS.

BUT TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY RECENT ONES TEND TO BE AROUND, YOU KNOW, 24 MONTHS, 2 TO 3 YEARS FOR A BIG CITY CHANGE, 2 TO 3 YEARS. THAT CAN GET EXTENDED TO IT ALL KIND OF TO CHRIS'S POINT, ONCE IT KIND OF GETS OUT ONCE, ONCE THE BABY LEAVES THE NEST AND THE DRAFT IS OUT THERE, WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ENGAGED.

OKAY. HOW IS YOUR IS FOR DALLAS 2.0 IMPACTED BY YOUR REVIEW ON SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS IN THE CHARACTER WITH YOUR GENTLE DENSITY? DEFINITION IN IN IMPACT. SO IN TERMS OF FORWARD DALLAS, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S PROTECTIONS IN PLACE FOR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

US BEING A, YOU KNOW, THIS BEING A ZONING DOCUMENT AND KIND OF ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE, WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED ANY CHANGES TO THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WOULD ADD ANY USES INTO THEIR YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE QUITE HONEST, WE HAD EVEN TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING DURING THE MEETINGS ABOUT ADDING IN CORNER STORES THERE

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SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AS I'VE KIND OF MENTIONED, THINGS MAY BE IMPACTED.

WELL, THAT'S KIND OF OUT NOW OF THE SINGLE FAMILY.

SO WE WOULD KEEP THE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, SINGLE FAMILY.

THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD ARE JUST, AGAIN, ADDING AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE READY FOR IT NOW, MAYBE READY FOR IN THE FUTURE.

BUT TO HAVE THE DISTRICT THERE TO KIND OF ENHANCE THE HOUSING DIVERSITY THAT IS NEEDED.

SO AM I HEARING YOU SAY THAT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AS THEY ARE TODAY IS NO PROPOSAL IN AND CHAPTER 63. CHANGING THEM. BUT THEN YOU DID SAY THAT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH QUADS, DUPLEX, TRIPLEX AND IN IN A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO HOW I HOW IS THAT A DIFFERENT. HOW DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE THAT WITH A TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT IMPACTING IT? SO WHAT WE'RE CREATING, THIS PART OF THE PROCESS FOR US IS THE TEXT.

WE NEED TO HAVE THE DISTRICTS READY TO REFLECT THE DIFFERENT PLACES WITHIN DALLAS.

SIGN YOU MY TIME. CAN YOU STOP MY TIME? THANKS.

SO WE'RE CREATING DISTRICTS THAT ARE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS AND OTHER DISTRICTS THAT COULD HAVE A MIX OF TYPES.

WHERE THESE GO ON THE MAP IS A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF TO, TO. MAYOR PRO TEM POINT OF KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO THESE GO? WHO MAKES THE DECISION. IT WOULD BE THE COUNCIL CHOOSING TO TAKE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MAY BE NOW CURRENTLY JUST SINGLE FAMILY, AND ZONED IT TO ONE OF THE NEW DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW FOR MORE OF A MIX.

YOU COULD DO THAT NOW BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DUPLEX DISTRICT.

I MEAN, THESE THINGS EXIST RIGHT NOW IN THE CODE.

SO YOU'VE GOT SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS, YOU'VE GOT A DUPLEX DISTRICT.

I MEAN, THE ABILITY TO ASK FOR ZONING, A ZONING CHANGE ANYWHERE IS ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE DISTRICTS ALL WORK.

HOW WILL THIS IMPACT THE CURRENT PDS? THE OLD, ESPECIALLY THE OLDER ONES THAT ARE OPERATING OUT OF CHAPTER 51, AND THAT HAS A MORE DIFFERENT VIEW ON HOW WE LIVE? THE NATURE OF A PD, IT'S A DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL.

IT'S VESTED. WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THAT.

IN THIS PROCESS FOR CHRIS AND I. WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THE PDS.

THE PDS CONTINUE TO EXIST. IF THE CITY WANTS TO KIND OF LOOK AT AND SEE HOW THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH THESE PDS, THAT'S KIND OF A DIFFERENT PROCESS.

BUT FROM WHAT WE DO, THEY'RE VESTED, THEY'RE ON THE GROUND, AND WE'RE NOT CHANGING THEM.

WE CAN'T CHANGE THEM. SO THEN IF YOU'RE NOT CHANGING PDS THAT ARE OUT OF CHAPTER 51, CHAPTER 51 A AND YOU BRING IT IN CHAPTER 63, THEN AS A USER OF THESE CHAPTERS, DOESN'T THAT NOT MEAN THAT IF YOU DON'T REWRITE THE WHOLE THING, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO STILL OPERATE OUT OF THREE DIFFERENT CHAPTERS, 51, 51, A, AND 63? AND THAT'S THE NATURE OF A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS A PROBLEM IN ANY CITY THAT HAS THEM. DOES YOU'RE VESTED WITH WHAT CODE WAS IN EFFECT AT THE TIME YOUR PD WAS APPROVED.

AND SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE REALITY OF IT, WHICH IS WHY WE KIND OF WANT TO GET AWAY FROM RELYING ON PDS TOO MUCH BECAUSE IT IS.

IT'S MESSY TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT APPLIES TO YOUR PD.

IT'S MESSY FOR ENFORCEMENT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A PD HERE AND THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT.

SO REALLY IT IS IT'S JUST AN UNFORTUNATE REALITY.

THE HOPE WOULD BE THAT MAYBE SOME OF THESE NEW DISTRICTS, OR SOME OF THE WAY THE DISTRICTS ARE MODIFIED MAY ENCOURAGE SOME FOLKS.

WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN. IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO COME IN AND KIND OF REVOKE THEIR PD AND SAY, I DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE.

I WANT TO BE THIS DISTRICT AND I WANT TO WORK BY.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE RUSHING TO DO IT.

BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE SEEN IT. WE HAVE SEEN IT KIND OF TURN AROUND IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE HAD THE SAME ISSUE OF KIND OF DOING SPECIAL APPROVALS, BECAUSE THE CODE'S NOT REALLY WORKING. THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU.

WHAT ARE THE LIKELIHOOD, THE CHANCES THAT SOMEONE IS GOING TO COME IN AND SAY, I WANT TO DO AWAY WITH A PD AND JUST OPERATE BY, RIGHT. WE SEE IT. WE SEE IT NOT AS OFTEN, BUT WE SEE IT LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, ALL THE SUBDISTRICTS IN 193.

THEY DEFAULT TO 51 A, ALTHOUGH 193 DEFAULTS TO 51.

WE DO SEE A LOT OF THE PDS. THE ONE, ESPECIALLY THE OLD ONES.

THERE ARE 51. IF THEY'RE READY FOR REDEVELOPMENT, THEY USUALLY ARE TRYING TO TO MOVE TO THE NEW CODE.

IT CAN BE A BASE CODE IF IT MAKES SENSE. THE MIXED INCOME HOUSING BONUS WAS ATTRACTIVE FOR DEVELOPERS FOR MIXED USE OR MULTI-FAMILY.

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OKAY. I'M GOING TO CHANGE TO SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GOING TO IMPACT THE SOUTHERN AREA.

HOW ARE YOU PLANNING TO UPDATE THE INDUSTRIAL RANGE? YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO UPDATE THE INDUSTRIAL RANGE.

ARE YOU COMBINING CSIR AND I AM. ARE YOU ARE YOU MAKING A NEW INDUSTRIAL DEFINITION? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT'S ON THE GROUND TODAY? SO THERE IS A I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK. SO I'M JUST GOING TO PULL UP THE MY REFERENCE.

SO PART OF IT IS, IS REALLY TO CLEARLY DEFINE WHAT THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS ARE.

SO WE HAD A PROPOSAL FOR THESE DISTRICTS TO KIND OF CLARIFY THE SCALE OF THESE.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SO ONE OF THE PROPOSALS WAS TO COMBINE THE CURRENT IL WITH THE ER, THE INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT TO CREATE A RESEARCH AND LOGISTICS DISTRICT.

THAT'S KIND OF THE STUFF THAT'S ALL INSIDE. IT DOESN'T HAVE BAD IMPACTS, BUT REALLY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT DISTRICT IS.

RENAMING OF THE IMM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING TO THE GI GENERAL INDUSTRIAL TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THIS IS YOUR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREA.

THERE'S SOME SETBACK REQUIREMENTS THAT COME INTO PLAY.

I THINK WITH 840 WHERE THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ALIGN WITH THAT STATE DEFINITION, BUT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT. WE PROPOSE TO CREATE THE FLEX COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF AREAS OF INDUSTRIAL USE THAT ARE BEING REUSED.

AND THEN THE BI INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT WOULD BE A RENAMING OF THE COMMERCIAL SERVICE, BECAUSE CSS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DOESN'T REALLY REFLECT THE RANGE OF KIND OF BIGGER USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THERE. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. SO IT'S REALLY CREATING FOUR OF THEM, COMBINING TWO THAT ARE SIMILAR. MAKING SURE THERE'S A PLACE FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

WE'LL NEED TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE, CREATE NEW DEFINITIONS.

FOR WHAT IS HEAVY, WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

WHAT ARE THE OTHER TYPES OF KIND OF INDUSTRIAL USES THAT CAN BE ALLOWED IN THERE? AND AGAIN, ALIGNING WITH ANYTHING THAT COMES DOWN THROUGH THE STATE. SO MAKE SURE ALL THE DEFINITIONS ARE THE SAME. AND THEN REALLY JUST LOOKING AT HOW WE ALLOW THEM BASICALLY SORTING THE USES AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT TYPES OF USES ARE ALLOWED IN LINE WITH THE KIND OF FUNCTION IN THE FORM OF THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ITSELF.

OKAY. I KNOW IN FORT DALLAS 2.0, WE WERE THAT WE WORKED HARD TO IDENTIFY AND TO PROTECT WITH ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICES THAT WE HAVE SEEN.

HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT WHAT'S WHAT'S BEING WHAT FORT DALLAS 2.0.

DID WHAT SENATE BILL 840 HAS DONE. AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE GROUND TODAY.

WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION YET. WE KNOW IT'S A PRIORITY.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S THESE SIGNIFICANT CONFLICTS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES, IN PARTICULAR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES.

SOME OF THESE ISSUES MAY BE ABLE AS NEW THINGS COME IN, SOME OF THE ISSUES MAY BE ABLE TO BE TACKLED THROUGH THE TEXT OF THE ZONING CODE, BUT SOME OF THESE MAY BE A MAPPING ISSUE. IT JUST MAY BE THAT THE INDUSTRIAL IS IN THE WRONG SPOT.

BUT THAT'S A KIND OF A DIFFERENT TASK TO TAKE ON.

WE ARE ONE COMPONENT OF THAT IN LOOKING AT THINGS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMPONENT OF INDUSTRIAL.

AND WE HAVE THAT IN MIND AS WE START TO KIND OF LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTROL INDUSTRIAL USES AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

OKAY. YOU IN YOUR, IN THIS DOCUMENT IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT LANDSCAPING.

ARE YOU. IS THIS GOING TO LOOK AT ARTICLE TEN BECAUSE ARTICLE TEN HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED AND FOREVER.

AND IT DOESN'T DO MUCH FOR THE WAY WE LIVE TODAY.

SO HOW IS THAT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? ARTICLE TEN IS IN THE CODE, RIGHT? CURRENTLY.

YES. WE ARE ABSOLUTELY LOOKING AT LANDSCAPE. WE KNOW THERE WAS SOME REVISION THAT WAS DONE PRIOR.

NOT NOT TOO LONG AGO. I HONESTLY DON'T HAVE THAT ON HAND WHAT THAT WAS.

BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE NEED TO BE SURE THIS THING IS THE LANDSCAPE.

CHAPTER IS COMPREHENSIVE, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SCREENING ISSUES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT BUFFERING ISSUES, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PARKING LOT ISSUES.

SO WE ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO BE LOOKING COMPREHENSIVELY AT THE LANDSCAPE CHAPTER, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT KIND OF LANDSCAPING IN PLACE.

AND TO THAT END, HE IS A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AS WELL AS HIS OWNER.

SO WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE PLANT EXPERTISE AS WELL.

WELL, YOU BE OKAY. I'LL LEAVE THAT ALONE. SENATE BILL 815, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT MY DISTRICT IMMENSELY SINCE I HAVE THE LARGEST RURAL AREA IN THE CITY, AND I HAVE A LOT OF VACANT LAND THAT'S OVER FIVE ACRES THAT HAS

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HOW DO YOU DO THAT? I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR THAT YET.

IN PARTICULAR, WHEN LEGISLATION LIKE THIS COMES DOWN FROM THE STATE, WE ARE VERY HAMPERED.

IT'S THE STATE SAYS IT. WE CAN'T GO AGAINST IT, BUT WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THAT.

AGAIN, DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE ON THOSE BILLS YET AND HOW THEY FUNCTION.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY IF SOMEBODY CHOOSES TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE A FIVE ACRE SUBDIVISION, THAT TEXAS LEGISLATION OPTION IS THERE FOR THEM.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THEIR SENSITIVITIES. WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT. BUT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR RIGHT NOW. SO THAT MEANS THEN WE'LL HAVE STRANGE COMMUNITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE WILL HAVE NO INFRASTRUCTURE HERE AND INFRASTRUCTURE THERE, BECAUSE OUT THERE IT'S RURAL.

IT'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE. SOME PLACES ARE STILL ON SEPTIC TANKS.

DICTATES. SO. WELL, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT LATER.

YEAH, I WAS KIND OF TRYING TO READ YOUR BODY LANGUAGE THERE.

OKAY. MISS MENDELSOHN CHAIRWOMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM EIGHT.

THANK YOU. THIS PRESENTATION USES A LOT OF TERMS LIKE GENERAL DENSITY AND CONTEXT BASED TRANSITIONS AND STREAMLINED APPROVALS. BUT FOR MANY HOMEOWNERS, THESE PHRASES SOUND LIKE CODE FOR ALLOWING MORE DENSITY INTO PLACES WHERE PEOPLE MOVE PRECISELY BECAUSE THEY WANTED STABILITY, PREDICTABILITY, AND SPACE.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT REFORMS THAT, INTENTIONALLY OR NOT, OPEN THE DOOR TO DENSITY AND ESTABLISH SINGLE FAMILY AREAS, REDUCE OVERSIGHT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT, OR CHIP AWAY AT THE SAFEGUARDS THAT OUR RESIDENTS RELY UPON.

HOPEFULLY, THERE WAS A MESSAGE CENT LAST WEEK THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROTECT OUR HOMEOWNERS RIGHTS AND THEIR ABILITY TO GIVE INPUT EVERY TIME THE WORD GENTLE. THE PHRASE GENTLE DENSITY IS USED, WHICH I THINK EVERY PERSON WHO SPOKE AND EVERY TIME YOU ANSWERED IT WAS USED.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU IN MY BRAIN THAT IS SWITCHED OUT.

THAT IS NOT GENTLE DENSITY. IT'S STEALTH DENSITY.

IT'S CREEPING, IT'S SNEAKY. AND IT SOUNDS HARMLESS, BUT IT'S NOT.

AND SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AS THAT STEALTH DENSITY.

YOU ARE VERY ALIGNED WITH A HOUSING COALITION THAT'S OUT SENDING YOUR MESSAGE.

BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE HEARING THE RESIDENTS ON PAGE 11 WHEN YOU SAY WHAT THE FEEDBACK WAS, YOU HAVE EIGHT BULLETS. ONE OF THEM IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE BULLET.

YOU HAVE THREE BULLETS OF CONCERN AND FOUR OF SUPPORT.

BUT AT THOSE MEETINGS, THAT WAS NOT THE RATIO OF INPUT YOU RECEIVED, WAS IT? WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING INPUT FROM WRITTEN COMMENTS AND FROM THE COMMON CARDS AT THOSE MEETINGS.

AND IT IS THERE'S A LOT OF VOCAL CONCERN ON CERTAIN ISSUES, IN PARTICULAR REGARDING SINGLE FAMILY, BUT WE DID RECEIVE A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR MANY OF THE PROPOSALS THAT WERE PRESENTED.

SO IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THAT THEY SPOKE UP AT THE MEETING OR HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO, BUT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING FEEDBACK ON THE POSITIVE SIDE FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.

WELL, CERTAINLY YOU HAVE ADVOCACY GROUPS GETTING THAT FOR YOU, BUT OUR TYPICAL RESIDENTS WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHO DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND A LOT OF IT, THIS IS NOT BREAD AND BUTTER OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT ARE NOT FOR THIS, JUST AS THEY WERE NOT FOR MANY OF THE ASPECTS OF FOR DALLAS THAT WE ENDED UP HAVING A BIG COMPROMISE ON.

I STILL VOTED AGAINST. AND I'M GOING TO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE THAT ARE VERY, VERY PROBLEMATIC. EXTENDING YOUR TIME FRAME, I STILL THINK IT'S INSUFFICIENT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS ARBITRARY DAY OF OCTOBER 3RD, CUTTING OFF, POSTING THE COMMENTS, BUT STILL ACCEPTING THEM LIKE EVERYTHING SHOULD BE POSTED. IN FACT, YOU CAN HAVE A FEED FROM FROM FACEBOOK OR TWITTER THAT POSTS IN REAL TIME, SO WHY WOULDN'T YOU SHOW THAT? THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.

WE WANTED TO CUT OFF DATE FOR THE CODE DIAGNOSTIC COMMENTS JUST TO KIND OF SAY, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE CLOSING. THIS CLOSES THIS PERIOD. WE'LL CONTINUE TO POST ALL THE COMMENTS AFTER THAT, BUT WE NEED TO WE CAN'T DO A CONTINUOUS FEED IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE SOME OF THESE COMMENTS BEFORE WE POST THEM, THERE ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO REDACT. THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN'T.

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MAYBE IT'S NOT IN REAL TIME, BUT EVERY WEEK. AND IF YOU NEED TO DRAW A RED LINE FOR SOME SORT OF ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSE OF YOUR OWN, THAT'S FINE. BUT TO TO CUT THAT OFF, ESPECIALLY SO EARLY.

I HAVEN'T HAD A TOWN HALL ON THIS. I WASN'T PREPARED TO HAVE A TOWN HALL ON THIS.

AND EVEN WITH THIS PRESENTATION, I COULDN'T LEAD IT WITHOUT YOU.

THIS NEEDS TO BE STAFF DRIVEN. THIS IS VERY TECHNICAL.

AND SO I THINK THIS WHOLE THING NEEDS TO SLOW DOWN.

WE'RE STILL IN BUDGET TOWN HALLS, AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SCHEDULE A TIME FOR THIS.

AT LEAST ONE, MAYBE TWO. MY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO READ THIS.

THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW MORE. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

I CAN SEE WHY. OTHER CITIES. AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BLAIR, FOR BRINGING UP HAVE TAKEN YEARS TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRULY LOOKING FOR THEIR PEOPLE TO HELP DETERMINE WHAT THEIR CITY BECOMES.

I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT OPENING UP NEW DISTRICTS OR OVERLAYS OR ANY OTHER THING THAT, IN THE END, IS GOING TO WORK AGAINST OUR PEOPLE. THAT'S NOT OKAY FOR ME.

I HAVE A WHOLE SERIES OF QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO START WITH THIS.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S A CITYWIDE PRIORITY TO ADD DENSITY? I THERE'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE AFFORDABLE AND DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES.

I MEAN, IT IS MENTIONED WITHIN FORWARD DALLAS, BUT IT'S REALLY A YES OR NO QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK.

WELL, LET ME LET ME BACK UP. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN THIS PRESENTATION? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM US ON HOW YOU'RE GOING FORWARD, OR ARE YOU JUST LETTING US KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING? WE ALWAYS WANT FEEDBACK. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND DO THE LONGER PRESENTATION IF YOU WANT US TO DO THAT AS WELL.

THIS WAS INTENDED TO SHOW KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING AS WELL AS THE PROCESS.

BUT IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN WE DID SOME ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'RE WILLING REALLY. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. I MEAN, IT WASN'T LIKE THE LAST TWO DAYS WAS THE ONLY TIME THAT COULD HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT FEEDBACK, IN FACT. MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND, AND I WANTED TO JUST REALLY JUST KIND OF GO BACK AND REALLY SET THE TONE FOR WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

AND I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND DEFINITELY WANT MORE.

WHAT YOU'RE WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHEN WE DO THE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEN YOU DON'T GET A CHANCE TO HEAR WHAT FEEDBACK OTHERS HAVE PROVIDED.

AND SO WHAT I HEARD OVER THE SUMMER, BECAUSE WE HAD HAD A LOT OF THE SESSIONS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT THIS BODY WANTED TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, YOU WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CONSULTANT COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TO INFORM ON THE PROCESS BASED ON YOUR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE NOT HERE TO TELL YOU THAT WE'VE GOTTEN ALL THE ANSWERS THAT WE NEED AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT YOUR FEEDBACK.

SO I DON'T WANT IT TO APPEAR TO BE THAT. BUT I WAS ASKED TO BRING BACK THIS DIAGNOSTIC REPORT THAT WE DID SHARE.

I KNOW WE GIVE YOU ALL A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND SOMETIMES I ALSO HEAR FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF STUFF THAT WE SEND YOU, THAT OFTENTIMES IT HELPS FOR US TO COME HERE AND HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS GIVE YOU KIND OF THE THE UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE.

THE PROCESS IS ON THE DATES. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DATES FOR JUST A MINUTE.

WE DEFINITELY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN HALLS.

I DO AGREE WITH THAT. HOWEVER WE'VE ALSO HEARD THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY CHALLENGES CURRENTLY WITH OUR CODE THAT WE DON'T WANT THIS TO DRAG OUT TO BE ANOTHER 7 OR 8 MONTH PROCESS. I MEAN, 7 OR 8 YEAR PROCESS.

SO WHAT WE'VE LAID OUT IS A TIMELINE TO CONTINUE WITH THIS SERIES OF INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS AND FEEDBACK.

AND IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUDGET TOWN HALL.

SO IF YOU WILL NOTICE, THOSE MEETINGS DO NOT START PRIOR TO AUGUST THE 28TH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS, I THINK, THE LAST TOWN HALL MEETING ON THE SCHEDULE.

SO WE DEFINITELY WILL INCLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL MEETINGS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.

BUT AT SOME POINT, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, ON A LOT OF OUR PROCESSES, THEY DRAG ON AND ON AND ON.

AND IF THIS COUNCIL WANTS MORE TIME, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT.

BUT AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO APPEAR THAT THIS TEAM HAS DONE ANYTHING WRONG.

THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY STAFF. THIS IS A CONSULTANT THAT WE HAVE ENGAGED AND WE'VE HIRED, AND THEY'RE HERE TO WORK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE VISION AROUND THE WHOLE ZONING REFORM IS CARRIED OUT IN THE MANNER IN WHICH WE'VE PRESENTED AS STAFF, AND THEY'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THAT AND PROVIDE THAT SUPPLEMENTAL ENGAGEMENT SUPPORT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THIS MORNING.

AND DEFINITELY WANT MORE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. WELL, MY FEEDBACK IS I THINK THIS NEEDS TO SLOW DOWN.

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AT LEAST NOT THE ONES THAT I REPRESENT. THE MEETINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN HAD WERE CONTRIVED IN A WAY THAT ALLOWED FOR MINIMAL RESIDENT QUESTIONS AND INPUT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DISTRICT MEETINGS THAT ARE A MUCH MORE OPEN FORUM SO THAT RESIDENTS CAN HAVE ALL OF THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND, OF COURSE, RECORDED. SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT PART.

THE THE QUESTION I WOULD ASK YOU IS IF WE SHOULD ACTUALLY SPEND TIME ON EVERY ELEMENT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

IF A MAJORITY OF US DON'T AGREE WITH YOU BY RIGHT, PERHAPS YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE THAT ITEM.

I SEE I'M AT A TIME. THANK YOU FOR THIS ROUND.

YOU ARE. BUT YOU HAVE TWO MORE. IS THERE A RESPONSE TO THAT LAST COMMENT OF HERS THAT NEED TO BE MADE OR MADE.

OKAY, THEN, MR. JOHNSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM A.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M LOOKING AT AND I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN MIDDLETON.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

SOME THINGS THAT YOU ASKED I DON'T HAVE TO ASK, BUT I AM CONCERNED WITH THE TIMELINE, SO I KNOW I JUST GOT HERE.

SO HELP ME WITH THIS TIMELINE, I GUESS. PRESENTATION FROM MARCH 25TH.

JUNE 25TH. JUNE. JULY AND ATTENDANCE HALL MEETINGS.

WEBINAR 517. PERSON IS IS THAT FOR EVERYBODY? THAT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED. THAT'S THE TOTAL HEADCOUNT FROM ALL THE MEETINGS AND THE TWO VIRTUAL WEBINARS.

HOW MANY WERE RESIDENTS AND HOW MANY WERE DEVELOPERS? I ACTUALLY COULDN'T TELL YOU THAT INFORMATION.

WE HAVE INFORMATION ON THEIR ZIP CODES. WE CAN KIND OF SHOW WHERE PEOPLE WERE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY WAS A RESIDENT OR A OR A DEVELOPER OR THERE.

THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF RESIDENTS, FROM MY IMPRESSION. SO IT'S I'M LOOKING AT IT AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS A VERY RIGOROUS PROCESS, ROBUST CONVERSATION.

AND AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE VERY WELL CONCERNED BECAUSE WE MUST PROTECT OUR AND PRESERVE OUR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THIS HAS BEEN A COMMUNICATION. THIS HAS BEEN AN ADVOCACY FOR DISTRICT FOUR AND OTHER DISTRICTS THAT THAT I'VE HEARD.

AND YET WE ONLY HAVE 517 PERSONS. THAT'S CHALLENGING FOR ME MENTALLY TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW THAT COULD BE WHAT PROCESS WAS USED FOR IN ORDER TO GET THE PEOPLE TO THE MEETINGS? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE DID SIGNIFICANT THINGS WERE SENT OUT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.

SORRY. WE ALSO SEND INFORMATION THROUGH COUNCIL OFFICES.

AND WE PRESENTED THIS AT THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO IT WAS AFTER DOING PUBLIC HEARINGS. I JUST WANT TO REMIND ALL OF US THAT THIS IS THE BEGINNING.

LIKE THE ENGAGEMENT IS JUST STARTING. THIS IS JUST THE PHASE WHERE WE SAY WE ARE STARTING TO DO THIS, GIVE US OUR INPUT, AND WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.

THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WAY MORE ENGAGEMENT.

WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO WHEN WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO WAY MORE PEOPLE.

WE HAVE A SEPTEMBER SERIES THAT IS COMING. IT'S JUST THE BEGINNING.

SO THOSE 500 AND THOSE FIVE MEETINGS WERE JUST TO KICK OFF A PROCESS.

OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW MY OFFICE HAVE NOT MET WITH YOU AS CONCERNING THIS.

ANOTHER QUESTION ON SLIDE. I THINK WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TIMELINE HERE WHY ARE WE.

AND I THINK COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN CARA ASKED THIS QUESTION, AND I WANT TO ASK AGAIN, WHY ARE WE CUTTING OFF POSTING COMMENTS ON TEN THREE? I DON'T THINK THAT'S MUCH TIME TO EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS AND ALLOW THEM TO GIVE INPUT CONCERNING WHAT'S GOING ON.

YES, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. I WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR A LITTLE BIT.

WHAT CAMERAS TEAM IS SAYING THAT WE'RE CUTTING OFF JUST COMMENTS ON THE DIAGNOSTIC BECAUSE WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM AND WE WANT TO INCORPORATE THEM IN THE DRAFT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE A DRAFT BASED ON $4, THE DIAGNOSTIC AND WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND YOU.

AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CUT OFF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DIGEST ALL THOSE COMMENTS AND ADDRESS THEM IN THE DRAFT.

THE COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUE TO BE OPEN, BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO START FOCUSING ON THE DRAFT OR ON AN ACTUAL PROPOSAL MORE THAN A DIAGNOSTIC. WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO CUT COMMENTS.

WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO NOT POST THEM. IT'S JUST THAT WE WANT TO MARK THE PASSING FROM ONE FACE TO ANOTHER.

FIRST PHASE WAS THE KICKOFF AND THE DIAGNOSTIC.

NOW LET'S MOVE INTO THE DRAFT. WE'RE GOING TO RELEASE THE DRAFT AND THAT'S IT.

COMMENTS. AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THE KEEP THE COMMENTS OPEN FOR AS LONG AS THIS PROCESS CONTINUES UP TO WHEN IT COMES TO YOU FOR A VOTE.

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SO WHAT WE CAN DEFINITELY DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT AND THAT WE SHARE THAT AS IT GETS UPDATED.

COMMENTS ARE COMING IN THAT WE JUST PROVIDE THAT TO THE COUNCIL.

SO YOU CAN STILL SEE HOW THE COMMENTS ARE BEING SHAPED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THAT ONGOING KIND OF TRANSPARENCY TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, EVEN ACROSS THE CITY WHAT'S BEING COMMUNICATED.

SO WE HAVE NO PROBLEM SHARING THAT, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT BLINDLY.

SO WE DEFINITELY HAVE HEARD THE COMMENTS AROUND KEEPING THAT THAT PROCESS OPEN TO WHERE THE COMMENTS ARE REAL.

AND WE CAN HAVE THOSE COMMENTS. SHARE IT WITH YOU AS YOU WANT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION ALSO WITH YOUR VARIOUS CONSTITUENTS.

SO WE CAN DEFINITELY DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND I CONCUR WITH AGAIN, COUNCILWOMAN CARA. THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMMUNITY MEETING IN MY DISTRICT CONCERNING THIS.

AND I COULD NOT DO THIS PRESENTATION WITHOUT YOU BEING THERE.

AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE 517 INDIVIDUALS THAT I ATTENDED.

WE HAVE NO BREAKDOWN ON WHO THEY ARE, WHETHER THEY ARE RESIDENTS OR WHETHER THEY ARE DEVELOPERS.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE DISTRICTS AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

I'M JUST IT'S JUST HARD AGAIN, FOR ME TO GRASP THE CONCEPT THAT WE ONLY HAVE 517 PEOPLE.

SO THAT, THAT THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE I'M A COMMUNITY GUY.

IT'S NUMBER ONE. I'M A COMMUNITY GUY, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING ACCOUNTABLE AND TRANSPARENT IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IN DISTRICT FOUR, THAT IS, I'M DEMANDING THAT. AND THEY IN MY COMMUNITY HAVE CONSTITUENTS HAVE DEMANDED THAT FROM ME.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THAT WE'RE BEING COMPLETELY HONEST, THAT WE'RE BEING COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT AND ACCOUNTABLE TO THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO CHECK THE BOX, BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE EDUCATING OUR COMMUNITY SURROUNDING THIS, THIS ZONING AND THIS, THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS MY COMMUNITY IS LISTENING, AND THEY'RE SAYING THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PRESENTED WITH THIS. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. IF THEY'RE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE RUSHING TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE NOT PARTICIPATED IN, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR ME.

SO I NEED TO WORK WITH YOU CONCERNING THIS AND LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU SOON.

THANK YOU. MR. RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, I HAVE. I WANT TO START WITH SOME GENERAL COMMENTS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS AND WHAT THIS PROCESS IS. ORIGINALLY, I UNDERSTOOD THIS TO BE A REVIEW AND AMENDMENT OF OUR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT CODE GOVERNING ZONING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT. BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW, I THINK IT IS MORPHED INTO A COMPLETE CHANGE TO A BRAND NEW DEVELOPMENT CODE, A DISCARDING OF OUR EXISTING 51, A REGULATIONS AND A WHOLE NEW CODE BASED UPON A VARIETY OF NEW CONCEPTS THAT I THINK IN MANY CASES WE HAVE ALREADY CONSIDERED THROUGH THE FORWARD DALLAS PROCESS, AND THAT NEED TO BE VIEWED IN THE LENS OF WHAT WAS DECIDED BY THIS COMMUNITY LESS THAN A YEAR AGO IN FORWARD DALLAS 2.0. FIRST OF ALL, THOUGH, I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHO THESE STAKEHOLDERS WERE THAT WERE CONSULTED IN DECEMBER OF 23. THERE IS NO INFORMATION IN YOUR DIAGNOSTIC ABOUT WHO THEY ARE, HOW THEY WERE SELECTED, HOW MANY THERE WERE. AND YET YOU HAVE BASED SO MANY OF YOUR RECOMMENDED CHANGES UPON INPUT FROM THESE STAKEHOLDERS. WHO WERE THEY? WELL, ONE THING TO CLARIFY OUR RECOMMENDATIONS COME FROM US AND OUR EXPERIENCE.

AND LOOKING AT THE CODE, THE STAKEHOLDERS PROVIDED US WITH SOME INSIGHT INTO HOW THE CODE FUNCTIONS.

BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND PUTTING THEM IN THE DIAGNOSTIC AND SAYING THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO.

THE RECOMMENDATION THE THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE CHRIS AND MYSELF, NOT THE STAKEHOLDERS.

THEY JUST PROVIDED US WITH SOME TECHNICAL INFORMATION.

IT WAS EARLY IN THE PROCESS WE RECEIVED THE LIST OF PEOPLE TO INVITE FROM THE CITY.

SO I HONESTLY, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUNCH, BUT THAT'S THE LIST THAT WE GOT.

IT WAS A VARIETY OF PEOPLE, FROM ARCHITECTS TO REALTORS TO DEVELOPERS TO RESIDENT GROUPS WERE INVITED.

IT WAS A VERY LONG LIST. ABOUT 30 FOLKS RESPONDED.

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IT'S STANDARD FOR ANY ZONING PROCESS. HALF THE GROUP NEVER RESPONDS TO TO COME TALK TO US.

SO THAT WAS THE GROUP THAT WE JUST TALKED TO THEM.

IT WAS PEOPLE WHO ARE KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THE CODE AS A WHOLE AND HOW IT WORKS AND WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT WORKING. AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS WERE ABOUT.

SO THERE WERE ONLY 30 PEOPLE THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THIS STAKEHOLDER GROUP.

30 PEOPLE RESPONDED, RIGHT. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME OF HOW MANY WERE INVITED.

WELL, I'M I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA OF MODERNIZING OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT INCREASED POPULATION CHANGES IN LAND USE TRENDS AND REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE ARE THROWING OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER.

THERE ARE SOME IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED THAT I THINK WERE LARGELY REJECTED BY THE COMMUNITY DURING THE FORWARD DALLAS DISCUSSIONS. NOW, I AM AWARE THAT FROM MY MEETING WITH YOU YESTERDAY THAT YOU HAVE READ FORWARD DALLAS 2.0, BUT YOU DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSIONS, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE PRIVY TO THE DISCUSSIONS THAT LED UP TO THAT FINAL DOCUMENT.

AND SO I HAVE PROMISED THAT I WOULD PROVIDE YOU WITH A RED LINE SHOWING THE CHANGES THAT THIS COUNCIL MADE AS A BODY TO BETTER REFLECT WHAT OUR INTERPRETATION OF THE COMMUNITY WANTED. BUT THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED HERE THAT I THINK ARE A NONSTARTER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE THROWING CONCEPTS AT THE WALL TO SEE WHAT STICKS, BUT I THINK THESE DON'T STICK.

FIRST OF ALL, ELIMINATING THE TIME LIMITS ON SUPS IS A NONSTARTER, PARTICULARLY IN MY DISTRICT WHERE WE USE THOSE TO REGULATE LATE NIGHT VENUES IN ONE PARTICULAR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

WE NEED THOSE TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE BUSINESSES THAT FREQUENTLY CHANGE MANAGEMENT AND CHANGE OWNERSHIP, AND ELIMINATING THOSE IS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE.

WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TODAY IN OUR CURRENT DEVELOPMENT CODE TO PROVIDE PERMANENT SUP APPROVALS, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR INSTITUTIONAL USES, SCHOOLS, FIRE STATIONS, THINGS OF THAT SORT.

AND SO I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO ELIMINATE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

ANOTHER ONE IS THIS GENTLE DENSITY CONCEPT. I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS JUST AN INNOCUOUS SOUNDING EUPHEMISM FOR INTRUSIVE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS.

YOU SAID A FEW MOMENTS AGO, IN RESPONSE TO MISS BLAIR'S QUESTION, A VERY POINTED QUESTION.

ARE YOU INTRODUCING OR PROPOSING THE INTRODUCTION OF HIGHER DENSITY WITHIN SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS? YOU SAID NO, BUT THAT BELIES THE TEXT OF YOUR DIAGNOSTIC, WHICH SAYS ON PAGE 32 THAT THERE IS A GROWING TREND TOWARDS IMPLEMENTING WHAT'S KNOWN AS GENTLE DENSITY INCREASES.

THESE DISTRICTS BUILD UPON EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE DUPLEX, TRIPLEX AND QUADRUPLEX DWELLINGS BY ALLOWING THIS TYPE OF FLEX DEVELOPMENT IN SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS. COMMUNITIES CAN INTRODUCE SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING OPTIONS WITHIN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THAT WAS A CONCEPT THAT WAS WIDELY REJECTED BY THE COMMUNITY IN FOR DALLAS 2.0 AND I.

I PROPOSE THAT THE THIS CONCEPT AND OTHERS THAT I'M GOING TO GO INTO ARE THINGS THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE SPENDING TIME YOUR TIME STAFF TIME IN THIS COUNCIL'S TIME ON TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL THAT WE JUST INVENTED LAST FALL.

OTHERS INCLUDE THE ELIMINATION OF THE ADU OVERLAY.

WE IS YOUR TIME. OKAY, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH MY ADDITIONAL TIME.

THANK YOU. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, MR. GRACEY. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ITEM A THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, MR. RIDLEY. THAT WAS HOW YOU ALIGN. YOURS WAS SPOT ON.

SO I'M GONNA TRY TO FOLLOW THAT SAME CONCEPT THERE.

AND I'M GONNA REALLY START WITH REALLY THE SUP RENEWAL.

AND ON SLIDE, I THINK THAT WAS SEVEN THE UPDATE OF THE RANGE OF INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

AND THE REASON HE STARTED THE QUESTION, WHICH WE ALL HAVE, I THINK ABOUT THESE STAKEHOLDERS IS BECAUSE THESE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS IN AND OF ITSELF SEEM TO NOT SEEM THEY CONTRADICT WHAT THE COMMUNITY, MANY OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS WHO LIVE IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY HAVE ALL AGREED ON.

AND THESE TWO ARE IN AND OF THEMSELVES CONTRADICT THAT.

SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TO WHO THOSE STAKEHOLDERS WERE AND HOW MUCH OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE COMING FROM THERE,

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AND I'M GOING TO START THIS AND SAY WELL, LET ME JUST START WITH THE RENEWAL PROCESS.

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? AND THEN HOW WOULD THE COMMUNITY HAVE A HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO HAVE A VOICE IN CERTAIN ESTABLISHMENTS? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SO GENERALLY THE, THE REQUIREMENT FOR RENEWAL AND CEP IS AN UNCOMMON REQUIREMENT.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT BEFORE. TYPICALLY YOU YOU'RE BASICALLY SAYING WE'RE MAKING THIS A SPECIAL USE IN THIS DISTRICT.

WE'RE GOING TO EVALUATE IT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT THROUGH THAT SIMILAR PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC PROCESS YOU DO NOW ON SUPS FOR APPROVAL.

ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. ATTACH THE CONDITIONS YOU WANT TO ATTACH.

YOU KNOW EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DO. AND THEN THAT USE GETS TO CONTINUE UNTIL IT VIOLATES ITS CONDITIONS.

OR YOU KNOW, OR YOU KNOW, THE LICENSE IS REVOKED FROM THE BUSINESS THAT'S THERE.

SO YOU'RE USING THE SUP PROCESS FOR ENFORCEMENT OF CERTAIN THINGS.

UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ARE DIFFICULT ISSUES, THINGS LIKE NIGHTLIFE, THINGS LIKE INDUSTRIAL, THESE ARE THESE AREN'T MINOR THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DEALING WITH THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

BUT THE SUP PROCESS IS YOU'RE KIND OF FORCING A KIND OF MANAGEMENT OPERATION ENFORCEMENT ISSUE INTO A ZONING ANSWER.

THE SECOND HALF OF IT, THOUGH, RIGHT. I GOT I GOT THE FIRST HALF OF WHY.

BUT IF IT GOES AWAY THEN WHAT? WHAT TOOL WOULD THERE THEN BE IN PLACE TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS? I MEAN, THE CONCERNS WOULD BE VOICED DURING THE INITIAL APPROVAL.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU DO THAT FIRST APPROVAL, THEN SAP IN A PUBLIC PROCESS.

I MAY BE MISSING SOMETHING HERE, BUT THAT'S A PUBLIC PROCESS FOR FOLKS TO COME IN AND VOICE THEIR OPINION ON WHETHER IT SHOULD BE APPROVED OR NOT.

WE'RE NOT TAKING THAT AWAY. RIGHT. BUT ONCE IT GETS APPROVED, THEN THEY BECOME A BAD NEIGHBOR OR THEY BECOME A GREAT NEIGHBOR. AND MAYBE THERE'S 1 OR 2 NEIGHBORS THAT THAT DISAGREE WITH THIS WITH THE PLACE, BUT THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORS THINK IT SHOULD BE THERE.

THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING FINE. WHAT HAPPENS? WHAT WHAT'S IN PLACE TO ADDRESS THOSE TYPE OF THINGS? THAT'S THE ISSUE. AND THAT AND AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO.

I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GO WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON. BUT JUST UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS IN CITY MANAGER. I'LL SAY AS WE START THIS PROCESS, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW FROM FORWARD DALLAS WHAT WAS THAT AFTER ACTION REVIEW REPORT? WHAT WAS THAT CONVERSATION HAD, SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE WE'RE NOT MAKING SOME OF THE SAME MISTAKES AS WE START THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE IT'S STARTING TO FEEL JUST LIKE FORT DALLAS FELT TO SOME OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID IN THAT. AS WE START THIS PROCESS, WE DON'T GO AND MAKE SOME OF THOSE SAME MISTAKES AS WE EITHER INTENTIONALLY OR UNINTENTIONALLY EXCLUDE THE COMMUNITY FROM THESE CONVERSATIONS, OR START POSTING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CLEARLY CONTRADICT CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN REVISITED IN FORWARD DALLAS. SO I GUESS I'M MAKING A STATEMENT AT THE SAME TIME AS A WARNING, I SUPPOSE I DON'T KNOW, BUT JUST UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. COUNCILMAN GRACEY, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

OBVIOUSLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE COUNCIL WILL APPROVE THIS FINAL ZONING.

BUT WHAT OTHER CITY HAS BEEN DOING JUST ON THAT QUESTION IS, ONCE IT'S APPROVED, THERE'S SOME CONDITION IF THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE CONDITION.

CITY COUNCIL CAN REVOKE THAT SUP. SO THAT'S HOW OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT ROUTE YOU WANT TO GO. I THINK WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO GIVE US THE BEST TECHNICAL ADVICE TO YOU BOARD, TO THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT EVENTUALLY. BUT EVEN IN THAT RESPONSE, YOU'RE ASSUMING ONE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IT DOES NOT GIVE THE COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN DISAGREE.

IT'S ASSUMING, OKAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE ONE PERSON THAT SAYS, WE WANT TO REVOKE, REVOKE THIS SUP.

AND THEY SEND THEIR EMAILS AND WE ALL SAY, OKAY, STAMP IS REVOKED.

BUT IT DOES NOT ASSUME THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY SAYS, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, WE ACTUALLY LIKE THIS BEEN A GREAT NEIGHBOR, NOT SURE WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM. WHERE IS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT DEBATE? AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO TO TO REVISIT THAT. BUT THESE ARE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. THE THE ONE I DO WANT TO COME BACK.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR, FOR ASKING THIS QUESTION, BECAUSE I SAW IT TO UPDATE THE RANGE OF INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME AGAIN. IT'S REALLY JUST MEANT TO CLARIFY WHAT THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS ARE THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AND KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT EACH ONE IS FUNCTIONING THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. SO THE WAY THAT I LOOKED AT THE WAY THAT WE PRESENTED IT IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THE FIRST WAS TO COMBINE THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WITH THE INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT TO CREATE A NEW DISTRICT FOR RESEARCH AND LOGISTICS AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL KIND OF REALLY EVERYTHING THAT TYPICALLY TAKES PLACE INSIDE DOESN'T HAVE NECESSARILY A LOT OF IMPACTS. MAKING SURE THAT WE RENAME THE INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING THAT ONE IS YOUR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT,

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SO MAKING SURE THAT THAT DISTRICT IS VERY CLEAR ON WHAT IT IS AND WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THERE.

THEN RENAMING YOU HAVE THIS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT WHERE THE NAME IS MISLEADING, JUST BECAUSE OF THE RANGE OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.

SO TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS PART OF THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT RANGE.

TO RENAME IT THE BY BUSINESS INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

AND THEN FINALLY WE PROPOSED A NEW ONE, THE FLEX COMMERCIAL.

THIS IS FOR AREAS OF INDUSTRIAL THAT MAY BE TRANSITIONING OUT, WHERE YOU START TO SEE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MICROBREWERIES INDOOR SOCCER, DOGGY DAYCARE SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THEM.

AND BY KIND OF CLARIFYING THE PURPOSE OF EACH OF THESE, WE CAN BE SURE THAT WE'RE INCLUDING THE RIGHT TYPES OF USES AND THE RIGHT TYPES OF PERFORMANCE STANDARDS IN EACH OF THEM. THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS.

THAT'S WHAT THAT PHRASE MEANS. SO NOT NECESSARILY CHANGING ANYTHING IN FORWARD DALLAS OR IS IT REVISING? BUT IN TERMS OF THE AREA, GEOGRAPHIC AREA AND ALL OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, COULD IT RESULT IN THE EXPANSION OF AT THIS POINT, THIS? WOULD ANY CHANGES TO THE ZONING MAP WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL.

WE'RE PROPOSING TEXT THINGS WOULD EQUIVALENT.

SO LIKE YOU'VE GOT IT THE I AM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING WITH THE NEW TEXT.

IT WOULD JUST BE CALLED GENERAL INDUSTRIAL, BUT WE DON'T CHANGE THE MATH.

THAT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH.

IF YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE INDUSTRIAL ANYMORE, YOU WANT ONE AREA TO BE BIGGER.

THAT'S A DECISION THAT'S GOT TO BE MADE PUBLICLY AND WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF YOU MAKING THAT FINAL CALL ON THE MAP, WE DON'T CHANGE THE MAP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

THANK YOU. JUST GENERALLY, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, HOW OFTEN DO MUNICIPALITIES.

AND I KNOW IT'S IT'S NOT A LOADED QUESTION. I KNOW IT IT'S A LOT OF FACTORS.

BUT GENERALLY, HOW OFTEN DO MUNICIPALITIES REALLY LOOK AT THEIR DEVELOPMENT CODES AND AND TRY TO REVAMP THEM? IS THIS. I WOULD SAY GENERALLY ONCE THE CODE HITS ABOUT 40 YEARS OR MORE. THEY NEED TO. THEY ALL START LOOKING TO UPDATE.

OFTENTIMES WHAT CAN HAPPEN. IT CAN EVEN HAPPEN WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH IT'S CHANGED, DEPENDING ON WHAT CHANGE IS KIND OF ON THE OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S USES IN OLD CODES THAT DON'T EXIST ANYMORE, AND THEY DON'T ACCOMMODATE NEW USES THAT HAVE POPPED UP.

SO KIND OF KEY ELEMENTS LIKE THAT USUALLY START TO SIGNIFY WE NEED TO DO A CODE.

THE OTHER BIG ONE IS IS KIND OF WE'VE KIND OF MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.

IF YOU'RE DOING SPECIAL APPROVALS, WHETHER IT'S PLAN DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UNIT DEVELOPMENT, CONDITIONAL REZONING, ERPS GOT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT NAMES FROM IF ALL ZONING IS KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT AND THAT'S BECOME THE DEFAULT, THAT'S A CLEAR SIGN THAT THE CODE'S NOT WORKING.

THE CODE'S NOT KEEPING UP WITH WITH WHAT'S GOING ON.

IT'S A GOOD TOOL, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE THE DEFAULT.

SO REALLY IT IS, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY EVERY 40 YEARS.

I THINK A LOT OF THE WAYS WHEN THESE CODES GET UPDATED AND KIND OF THE NEW ORGANIZATION, NEW STRUCTURE, THEY'RE A LOT EASIER TO AMEND AS TIME GOES ON.

JUST BECAUSE THE ORGANIZATION ALLOWS YOU TO SLOT THINGS IN AND TAKE THINGS OUT WITHOUT DISRUPTING EVERYTHING.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT THE ORGANIZATION PART OF THIS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE BRING.

AND WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SORT OF FROM A PLANNERS STANDPOINT, FROM A CONSULTANT STANDPOINT, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GIVE ADVICE ON HOW WE SORT OF CREATE THIS NEW PIE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO BUILD TO, TO BAKE. ARE YOU LOOKING AT A TIME FRAME OF FIVE YEARS, TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS, 50 YEARS? HOW DO YOU SORT OF FACTOR IN THE FUTURE IN THE IN YOUR TECHNICAL AND IN YOUR POLICY ISSUES? IT'S IT'S FASCINATING. IT'S A FASCINATING QUESTION.

IT REALLY IS. WE TRY TO MAKE CODES THAT ARE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ADAPT.

AND ALSO PART OF IT IS, IS TO BE ABLE TO BRING THINGS INTO THE CODE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT DISRUPTING THE REST OF IT THAT'S WORKING SO YOU CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF THAT THAT WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSTRUCTING THIS SO THAT IT IS FLEXIBLE.

THERE'S A CERTAIN PART OF IT THAT'S INEVITABLE THAT YOU CAN'T PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I MEAN, THE MOST COMMON EXAMPLE YEARS AND YEARS AGO WAS CELL PHONE STORES.

YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY NEEDED TO DO ZONING AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW FOR CELL PHONE STORES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAD SPECIFIC USE LISTS. SO YOU TRY TO, YOU KNOW, WE TRY REALLY HARD TO KIND OF MAKE IT ADAPTABLE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THINKING ABOUT KIND OF HOW THINGS ARE CHANGING, WHAT'S GOING ON, YOU KNOW, AS BUILDINGS ARE BEING BUILT, DO WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE A SPACE FOR UBERS AND LIFTS TO DROP PEOPLE OFF? THERE'S KIND OF THESE THINGS POP UP. SO WE TRY TO BE MINDFUL AND I'M SURE YOU'LL BE MORE ELOQUENT.

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OFTENTIMES WE OPERATE SORT OF IN COORDINATION WITH SOMETHING LIKE THE SCOPE OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LIKE FORWARD DALLAS, WHICH IS LOOKING AT THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OVER A, YOU KNOW, DECADES.

SO WE TRY TO COORDINATE THE LAND USE REGULATION APPROACH WITH SORT OF THE VISION FOR THE CITY OVER THAT TIME FRAME.

SO A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE DO KIND OF CORRESPONDS WITH THE TIMING OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND THEN SORT OF THE VISION IN TERMS OF HOW FAR OUT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS LOOKING.

THANK YOU. I'M REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE GENERAL PROCESS FOR SOMETHING THAT'S THIS EXTENSIVE. AND THIS IS A MASSIVE PROJECT. YOU AND AND THE MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD HAVE ALREADY BEEN YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED AND AT LEAST OFFERED TO YOU.

BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU DEVELOP A NEW DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOU'RE DEALING WITH BASICALLY THREE AREAS YOU'RE DEALING WITH.

CERTAINLY THE TECHNICAL REVISIONS, WHICH I THINK ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CAN DO.

THAT'S THAT'S EASY, THAT WHEN I SAY EASY, IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN COMPARE, YOU CAN MANAGE, YOU CAN FACILITATE CLEANING UP THE ZONING CODE FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT.

BUT I THINK THE MORE PROBLEMATIC ISSUES THAN WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THIS GROUP HERE, AND IT'S A CONCERN TO ME AND MY NEIGHBORS, IS THAT WE'RE ALSO INFUSING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT CODE POLICY ISSUES THAT I THINK NEED TO BE REALLY VETTED AND NEED TO BE CONCERNED, AND THAT WE'RE ALSO LOSING A PERHAPS LOSING THE CULTURAL INTEGRITY OF OUR CITY AND OUR IN THE WAY WE OPERATE HERE. WE ARE NOT NOT THAT WE'RE NOT OTHER CITIES, BUT WE HAVE OUR OWN IDENTITY.

WE HAVE OUR OWN WAY OF DOING THINGS. WE HAVE OUR OWN CONSTITUENTS THAT DEMAND OF US CERTAIN LIFESTYLES, CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, CERTAIN QUALITIES OF LIFE AND CERTAIN ENTITLEMENTS THAT I THINK WE'RE OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE THEM.

AND THE ZONING CODE NEEDS TO BE THE RECIPE FOR THIS ZONING CODE NEEDS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NEEDS AND THE DEMANDS AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THOSE NEIGHBORS. AND I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT US LOSING AND THE EROSION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS IMPACT, THE EROSION OF THEIR RIGHTS, THE EROSION OF PROTECTIONS, THE EROSION OF THEIR ABILITY TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS ON HOW THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS FUNCTION AND HOW IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY'VE CHOSEN AND THAT THEY'VE DEVELOPED AND THAT THEY'VE CREATED STABILITY, HOW THEY LIVE.

THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IN MY OPINION, ABSOLUTELY HAVE PRIORITY AND WE HAVE TO HONOR THAT PRIORITY.

AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO USE THAT AS A PARAMOUNT OVERALL REACHING SITUATION.

DENSITY IN MY IN IS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

NOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN A LARGE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

THE CONCERN OVER STATE LEGISLATION IS A BIG, BIG PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN THROWN OUT.

WE AS A MUNICIPALITY, WE HAVE LOST OUR ABILITY TO CONTROL A LOT OF OUR LAND USE ZONING AND, AND RESPOND TO OUR CONSTITUENT RIGHTS THAT ARE ON THE GROUND.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER PROCESSES AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING ALLOW FOR THE ABILITY FOR US TO PROVIDE PROTECTIONS TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE THOSE STATE IMPOSED REQUIREMENTS ON US.

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE ABILITY TO LEGISLATE AROUND OR MANAGE AROUND GETTING OUR, OUR CITIZENS TAKEN CARE OF. AND SO ANY PROCESSES NEED TO PROVIDE THE SECURITY AND RETAIN THE ABILITIES FOR US TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. PDS ARE A GREAT WAY OF MANAGING PARTICULAR DIFFICULT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. IT'S NOT A BAD THING. THEY MAY BE COMPLICATED, THEY MAY NOT BE COMPLICATED, BUT THEY'RE A REAL GOOD TOOL. DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE REAL GOOD TOOL SPECIFIC USES LOT COVERAGES.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING AWAY OR OR DEALING WITH FAR.

AND THAT'S YOUR ISSUES. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AS A STARTING POINT THIS PROCESS WAS STARTED BEFORE I ELECTED.

BEFORE I WAS ELECTED, I THINK IT WAS LIKE IN THE INTERIM.

SO I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS THAT Y'ALL HAD BEFORE.

BUT I DID MEET WITH EMILY AND WITH ANDREA FOR AN OVERVIEW.

AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL BOTH OFFERING TO MEET WITH THE FRIENDS OF BACHMAN LAKE AND ALSO WEST ONE.

AND ADDITION AND OTHER GROUPS AS WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

I DO WANT TO SAY IN DISTRICT SIX, MY RESIDENTS ARE MOSTLY CONCERNED ABOUT GENTRIFICATION.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HEAR WHEN I HEAR GENTLE DENSITY.

THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK.

BUT I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN OUR AREAS, ESPECIALLY AREAS LIKE, I'M THINKING NORTH PARK, WEST DALLAS.

THERE'S SOME, SOME SENSITIVE AREAS. THEY'RE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT INDUSTRIAL THAT'S LOCATED NEAR THEIR HOMES AND PARKLAND.

THE THE WAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET RID OF SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL AND THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL IN WEST DALLAS WAS THROUGH THE SGP PROCESS.

AND SO I HAVE REAL CONCERNS ABOUT EVEN DISCUSSING REMOVING THAT BECAUSE IT WAS A REAL TOOL THAT WE WERE ABLE TO USE.

WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL PARK ASSETS IN NORTHWEST DALLAS THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT AND TO CONSIDER.

NONCONFORMITY ARE ALSO A MAJOR ISSUE IN DISTRICT SIX BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.

AND SO I WAS WONDERING, CAN YOU PROVIDE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT MAYBE THOSE CHANGES WOULD LOOK LIKE, OR WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER AS THE CODE AMENDMENTS, MAYBE MOVE FORWARD? IN REGARD TO THINGS LIKE THE INDUSTRIAL SPECIFICALLY? SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS AT PLAY. THOSE ARE USES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED.

THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE RIGHTS THAT COME EVEN IF WE MAKE THEM NONCONFORMING.

THEY THEY CONTINUE. BUT FOR ANYTHING NEW COMING IN, I THINK THERE'S WAYS TO.

NUMBER ONE, JUST KIND OF ADJUST HOW INDUSTRIALS DEFINE, BECAUSE SOME THINGS MAY BE COMPLETELY ENCLOSED AND CAUSE NO ISSUES TO THE NEIGHBORS, WHEREAS OTHERS ARE BIG PROBLEMS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE HEARD.

WE'VE HEARD THERE'S A LOT OF THEM OUT THERE THAT ARE BIG PROBLEMS. WAYS TO START TO LOOK AT THAT, JUST EVEN FROM ISSUES OF SITE DESIGN TO KIND OF HOW THESE USES SITUATE TO PROXIMITY.

THERE'S A VARIETY. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SET OUT, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN USES WHERE IN SOME PLACES I'VE WORKED.

THAT PARTICULAR USE DOESN'T MATTER. IF THE DISTRICT ALLOWS, IT CAN ESTABLISH WITHIN X AMOUNT OF FEET FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TOOLS WE NEED TO.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT AND SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALLY DIVE INTO.

AND PART OF IT IS REALLY JUST GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS THE CODE SAYING ABOUT INDUSTRIAL AND HOW DO WE CLARIFY THAT FIRST? AND THEN LET'S MAKE TRANSITIONS, LET'S MAKE PERFORMANCE BASED STANDARDS SOMETHING TO KIND OF CONTROL THAT MOVING INTO THE FUTURE.

IF YOU REZONE IT OUT OF INDUSTRIAL, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE.

THAT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THIS. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, SOMETIMES INDUSTRIAL IS IN THE WRONG PLACE.

BUT THAT'S A MAPPING ISSUE THAT'S DIFFERENT. SO YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE LAST THING I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY IS BECAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL IS SUCH A HUGE ISSUE IN WEST DALLAS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE C CAP PLAN IS CONSIDERED AS WE LOOK AT THE ZONING REFORM AS WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. COUNCILWOMAN STEWART.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS BRIEF.

WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THE PROCESS AND THE FIRST DRAFT COMING UP, AND HOW MUCH MORE INPUT YOU MAY NEED FROM HOME FROM RESIDENTS. SOME OBVIOUSLY, HOMEOWNERS, I THINK ARE GOING TO BE SOME OF THE ONES WITH THE MOST CONCERNS.

AND SO ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, THOUGH, LET'S SAY YOU DID SOME ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY OUTREACH, AND YOU HEARD FROM AN OVERWHELMING GROUP THAT THE SUP RENEWAL PROCESS SHOULD STAY AS IS.

THAT WE THAT THERE WAS NO DESIRE TO CHANGE THAT IF THAT WAS A STRONG INTEREST EXPRESSED.

WOULD YOU CHANGE THEN THE DRAFT? WOULD YOU WOULD YOUR DRAFT REFLECT THAT, OR WOULD YOUR DRAFT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHERE YOU'RE LEADING AT THIS POINT? THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR THE QUESTION, ROBIN BENTLEY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, THE CONSULTANTS ARE HERE ON OUR TEAM TO SUPPORT OUR TEAM. BUT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT WILL DRIVE THIS PROCESS, AND IT WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR NORMAL CHECKS AND BALANCES THROUGH ZOA, THROUGH CPC, AND THEN TO CITY COUNCIL AFTER WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO, ABSOLUTELY, IF WE ARE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE DON'T LIKE THAT RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE TWEAK THIS. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT WE DO IN THIS REPORT.

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WE'RE NOT TRYING TO VEER OFF AND GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD ON EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED.

AND SO YES, IF SOMETHING COMES OUT IN THE FIRST DRAFT THAT WE GET STRONG FEEDBACK, THAT IS NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR.

WE'LL ABSOLUTELY CONSIDER THAT IN THE NEXT DRAFT THAT'S RELEASED IN THE PROCESS ALL ALONG THE WAY.

SO YES, DEFINITELY. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE THE FIRST DRAFT TO WAIT A BIT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT ENOUGH OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN. WHEN I LOOK AT THE MEETINGS AND WHERE THEY ARE.

THERE WERE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. I DON'T THINK YOU'VE HAD VERY MANY RESIDENTS FROM THE NORTHEAST, FROM MY DISTRICT ATTEND, BUT I'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE SURPRISE! I WAS AT A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION MEETING SUNDAY NIGHT, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS EXPRESSED ABOUT ADAS, SO THEY KIND OF KNOW ABOUT IT. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN BRIEFED.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE MY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN BRIEFED, AND I THINK THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE FOR SOME OTHER DISTRICTS.

SO I, I WOULD PREFER THAT A DRAFT NOT BE DONE UNTIL THERE'S BEEN MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT, BECAUSE ONCE YOU HAVE A DRAFT, IT'S IN A DRAFT, IT'S IN A DOCUMENT.

I'VE DRAFTED A LOT OF DOCUMENTS IN MY TIME, AND THEY'RE THEN YOU'RE AMENDING A DRAFT.

LET'S LET'S JUST WAIT FOR THE FIRST DRAFT. LET'S GET THE INPUT NOW SO THAT THE FIRST DRAFT COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF REFLECTING WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE TELLING US, AS OPPOSED TO WE HAVE TO AMEND A DRAFT.

I THINK THAT JUST PSYCHOLOGICALLY AT LEAST OUR RESIDENTS WILL FEEL LIKE THEY'VE HAD SOME INPUT IF THE FIRST DRAFT REFLECTS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO MEET WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK. I KNOW THE TEAM'S BEEN IN TOWN DOING THAT THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET WITH EVERYONE.

I THINK THEY SHOULD MEET WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND HEAR FROM YOU. NOW THAT YOU'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPOSURE TO THE PROCESS AND WHERE WE ARE, AND IF THE IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO PAUSE AND DO MORE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, WE SURE CAN.

IT JUST PUSHES THE PROCESS OUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

BUT IF THAT'S THE WAY WE NEED TO GO, IF THAT'S THE THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF MORE INPUT AND AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WILL TAKE LONGER AND TO.

COUNCILMEMBER WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SENATE BILL 840.

AND WE NEED TO GET OUT AHEAD OF SOME OF THAT.

THERE'S JUST A BALANCE THERE. AND I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT PUSHING THIS FORWARD SO QUICKLY WITHOUT I JUST DON'T THINK WE'VE REALLY TAPPED INTO OUR CITY. I THINK WE JUST HAVEN'T. SO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. THANK YOU.

I I JUST, I HAVE I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. IF YOU COULD GIVE JUST SOME HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE, I GUESS, DIFFERENCES, IF YOU WILL, ON PROMOTION OF GENTLE DENSITY.

FROM WHAT WAS PASSED WITH FORWARD DALLAS 2.0.

AND WHAT THESE CODE AMENDMENTS WOULD IMPLEMENT.

OKAY, SO I'M NOT A ZONING EXPERT, BUT I'M GOING TO TAKE A CRACK AT AN ANSWER AND THEN THESE FINE FOLKS CAN CORRECT ME.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW IS SIMPLY CLARIFYING THE DEFINITIONS OF THE TYPES OF USES WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMEWHERE IN OUR CITY, BUT WE ARE NOT SAYING WHERE. WE ARE NOT SAYING THIS SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD NOW BECOMES FOURPLEX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE'RE SIMPLY CLEANING UP THE TEXT, WHICH HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, FRANKENSTEIN TOGETHER OVER THE LAST 50 PLUS YEARS AND IS VERY CONFUSING, SOMETIMES CONTRADICTORY, INTO A MUCH CLEANER DRAFT.

THAT'S THE GOAL OF THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, IS JUST TO CREATE A TEXT CODE THAT WORKS BETTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND BETTER CLARIFIES WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED IN THE CITY, PERIOD.

IT DOES NOT SAY WHERE THEY GO. THAT'S ANOTHER PROCESS, A MAPPING PROCESS THAT WOULD HAPPEN LATER IN A DIFFERENT PUBLIC PROCESS.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLARIFIED, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S OFTEN MISCONCEPTION, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ANYTHING WITH ZONING, THAT SWEEPING CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE MADE.

THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WE WE HAVE STAFF WHO ARE DOING THEIR JOB, QUITE FRANKLY, AND LOOKING AT ANTIQUATED CODE.

IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. IF THIS PASSES IN 18 MONTHS OR SO AND WE HAVE A NEW FRESH CODE.

NOTHING CHANGES ON THE GROUND UNTIL REZONING OF SOME TYPE HAPPENS.

THIS IS JUST A CLEANUP OF THE TEXT. AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE REFERENCE OF FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 THAT I MENTIONED.

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IS THAT ACCURATE? YES. OKAY. BECAUSE I HEARD SOME QUESTIONING THAT ALMOST CONTRADICTED THE FACT THAT THAT WAS CLEARLY PASSED HERE AT COUNCIL.

SO YES, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD, BUT CLEARLY THAT DIDN'T MATERIALIZE TO THE FAILING OF FORWARD DALLAS 2.0.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHY WE WOULD REGRESS IN THESE CONVERSATIONS AND RELITIGATE WHAT WAS VERY CONTENTIOUS AND AND MISLEADING, QUITE FRANKLY, ON A LOT OF WHERE THE OPPOSITION LIED.

WE'RE OPENING UP UNFORTUNATELY A AN INVITATION TO ALLOW THAT MISCONCEPTION TO CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE.

I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US AS A BODY TO REALIZE THAT OUR JOBS AS LEGISLATORS IN IN LARGE, IS EDUCATING OUR CONSTITUENTS. IF THERE IS MISCONCEPTION, IF THERE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF PROPOSED ACTIONS OR POLICIES FOR US TO TAKE UP, I MEAN, IT'S NOT FUN, BUT WE GOT TO GET OUT THERE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING. A LOT OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT I HEARD HERE TODAY, ESPECIALLY THE CONFLATING FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 AND EVEN JUST THE TERMINOLOGY OF GENTLE DENSITY AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING PROPOSED IN THESE CODE AMENDMENTS ARE ARE MISLEADING TO THE, THE PUBLIC, AS IF WE'RE LOOKING TO, TO MAKE ANY SWEEPING CHANGES TO ZONING AS A WHOLE.

THIS IS ADDRESSING TECHNICAL CHANGES, AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WHEN IT COMES TO SHORING UP LANGUAGE, LOOKING AT LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE UP TO DATE AND COMPLIANT, IS THAT AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE PROPOSING? YES, YES. AND I JUST WANT TO ALSO SAY THAT OTHER CONSULTANTS VERY GRACIOUS TO OFFER ONE ON ONE MEETING WITH YOU AND SOME OF YOU HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT, BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO OFFER THAT.

AND THEY AGREE. IF YOU NEED ONE ON ONE, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL COORDINATE WITH YOU ALL.

EXCELLENT. I MEAN, I JUST ENCOURAGE OUR BODY TO LOOK AT OUR REAL ROLES HERE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR CITY, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A A GRIM FUTURE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO GROW OUR TAX BASE.

WE HEAR MORE THAN ANYTHING FROM OUR RESIDENTS ON THE THE BURDEN OF THE INCREASE IN TAXES.

AND WE AS A BODY ARE NOT SETTING ANY POLICIES AT ALL.

QUITE FRANKLY, NONE TO DATE TO GIVE OUR VERY SKILLED STAFF THE TOOLS NEEDED TO GIVE US A GROWING TAX BASE. WE LOOK AT A REGION THAT IS GROWING AT A RAPID PACE BEYOND OUR CITY LIMITS.

WE LOOK AT THE FACT THAT OUR NOT JUST OUR POPULATION, IS NOT GROWING.

OUR TAX BASE IS NOT GROWING. AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE UNFORTUNATE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET EVERY YEAR AT BUDGET SEASON ON HOW THIS BURDEN IS IMPACTING OUR RESIDENTS. WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE'RE THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY.

LOOK AT THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO.

BRINGING IN DIFFERENT DWELLING TYPES IS NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL.

THIS IS NEEDED IN OUR CITY, AND IF WE CONTINUE TO RESIST EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE ARE GIVEN TO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR GENTLE DENSITY TO BE A REGULAR PRACTICE WHERE IT BELONGS, LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT BEING WILLING TO EDUCATE THEM AND NOT JUST LISTEN TO THE LOUDEST VOICES BECAUSE THE LOUDEST VOICES ARE MOST OF THE TIME MISLEADING THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEBATE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

I'LL WAIT FOR ROUND TWO. CHAIR MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU.

SO AT THE VERY BEGINNING, YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME ISSUES ABOUT THE CODE BEING INCONSISTENT, THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SIMPLIFIED, THAT IT'S HOLDING YOU BACK. AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S REALLY TWO ISSUES LIKE CLEANING THAT UP, WHICH WHEN WE VOTED TO HIRE THE CONSULTANT TO ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS EXPECTING.

AND THEN WHAT WE'RE SEEING ARE SOME PRETTY BIG POLICY CHANGES.

SO I AM NOT INTERESTED IN ADU BI RIGHT AT ALL.

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PROCESS WITH OUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT THAT ENSURES EVERYBODY GETS SOMETHING THAT'S FAIR.

NOT INTERESTED IN ANY KIND OF PLEX IN SINGLE FAMILY.

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WE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT IN FOUR DALLAS THE DISCUSSION OF SUPS AND THE EXPIRATION.

AGAIN, NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING A POLICY DISCUSSION AS CODE CLEANUP.

AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE TWO ITEMS SEPARATE.

IF YOU WANT TO FAST TRACK TECHNICAL CHANGES THINGS THAT ARE INCONSISTENT CONFUSING.

YEAH. BRING US BACK A RED LINE OF WHAT THAT IS.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS EXPECTING. BUT INSTEAD WHAT WE GOT IS ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE.

FOR THINGS THAT WERE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO GO THERE FOR US.

WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THERE. YOU WANT TO MAKE THESE KINDS OF POLICY CHANGES.

I HOPE YOU DO IT AFTER I'M GONE, SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH IT.

AND I'LL JUST COME DOWN AND SPEAK AS A RESIDENT.

BUT FOR NOW, I'LL SPEAK FOR MY RESIDENTS SAYING, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THIS, AND I WOULD LIKE THESE THINGS TO BE PUT TO THE SIDE.

THAT'S THE PART THAT NEEDS TO BE SLOW. THAT'S THE PART THAT NEEDS A LOT OF RESIDENT INPUT.

BUT IF YOU JUST HAVE SOME SMALL TECHNICAL THINGS, BRING THAT BACK PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT NOT POLICY THINGS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THIS IS BECOMING A DIFFICULT CONVERSATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR. EXCUSE ME, COUNCILMEMBER RIDLEY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE MY LIST OF POLICY ISSUES THAT HAVE ARISEN IN THE DIAGNOSTIC THAT I DON'T THINK.

STICK TO THE WALL. SOME OF THESE WE HAVE JUST HEARD ABOUT, WHICH INCLUDES THIS GENTLE DENSITY OF COMPLEXES BEING ALLOWED IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, THE ELIMINATION OF THE ADU REGULATIONS.

I THINK WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IS WORKING JUST FINE.

THE ADOPTION OF COMMERCIAL CORNER STORES IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IS DEFINITELY A NONSTARTER.

AND IN FACT, THAT FLIES IN THE FACE OF RETAIL TRANSFORMATION FROM THE MOM AND POP STORES TO THE BIG BOX STORES WHERE EVERYBODY GOES TO SHOP TODAY BECAUSE THEY OFFER LOWER PRICES AND GREATER SELECTION.

THERE ISN'T A STRONG NEED FOR CORNER STORES IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE ELIMINATION OF RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY REVIEW, THAT'S A BAD IDEA.

AND IN GENERAL, I SEE SEVERAL IDEAS FOR CODE CHANGES HERE THAT WOULD SUBSTITUTE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION MAKING BY STAFF FOR PUBLIC DECISION MAKING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, SUCH AS SUP REVIEW THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL OF THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO HAVING A VOICE ON.

AND YOUR IDEAS WOULD ELIMINATE THAT VOICE. ANOTHER ONE IS THE END OF DEED RESTRICTIONS.

THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION GIVEN FOR THAT, AND I DON'T SEE WHY THAT CREATES A PROBLEM.

I ALSO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT RELATE TO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ELIMINATION OF THE USAGE OF FFR.

IN OUR REGULATIONS, YOU PROPOSE SOME ALTERNATIVE, BUT DON'T DESCRIBE WHAT THAT IS.

WHAT ARE YOU ENVISIONING THERE? AND HERE WE HAVE A WHOLE SERIES OF THINGS THAT WOULD TIE INTO IT.

IT'S LOOKING AT ISSUES OF, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM THE BASICS OF SETBACKS, BUILDING COVERAGE, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE TO DESIGN STANDARDS THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY.

WE DON'T HAVE THE TECHNICAL. THIS ALL COMES IN DRAFT ONE, THE KIND OF WORKING OUT THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF WHAT WOULD REPLACE F R F R R IS A TOOL PRIMARILY FOR RESIDENTIAL. REALLY DOESN'T WORK IN THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO, BECAUSE F R WAS CREATED FOR SKYSCRAPERS AND THIS IS BEING DEALT WITH ON A RESIDENTIAL LEVEL. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT ISSUES OF HOMES BEING NEW HOMES COMING IN AND BEING OUT OF SCALE WITH THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY, THERE'S WAYS TO TACKLE THAT THAT DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON FFR, WHICH IS MORE OF A CLUMSY TOOL THAN IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN KIND OF SHAPE THAT BUILDING ENVELOPE TO DEAL WITH OUT OF CHARACTER OR OUT OF VOLUME.

STRUCTURES AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WELL, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO BECAUSE WE DON'T USE FAR TO REGULATE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UNLESS IT'S A HIGH RISE, HIGH DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY.

AND WE DO HAVE COVERAGE LIMITS CURRENTLY THAT GOVERN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO I'M NOT SURE THAT I SEE THE JUSTIFICATION HERE FOR ELIMINATING FA REGULATION.

ANOTHER ONE IS RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE. YOU IDENTIFY ON PAGE 25 OF THE DIAGNOSTIC THAT WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THE

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THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DESCRIPTION OF RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IN RPS THE WAY THE CURRENT WPS IS SET UP IS COMPLICATED.

IT ALSO SAYS IT GOES TO INFINITY, WHICH IS A STRANGE TERM TO DEFINE ITS UNLIMITED LIMITS ON THAT.

THERE'S WAYS TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT THAT ARE MORE CONCRETE, EASIER TO UNDERSTAND. WE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT IT'S A HARD THING TO APPLY.

I UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITY BETWEEN TALLER BUILDINGS, LOCATING CLOSER TO SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, AND AREAS WHERE THE HEIGHT IS LOW, WHERE THE DENSITY IS LOW.

I DON'T. THE INTENT OF IT IS PERFECTLY FINE. THERE'S EASIER WAYS THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT DOING IT, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ONCE WE START THE TECHNICAL DETAILS OF GETTING INTO IT, WHICH IS WHY THE PUBLIC DRAFT DRAFT 1.0 IS KIND OF SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN SEE HOW SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS PLAY OUT, AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE NOT OKAY WITH IT UNTIL YOU SEE HOW IT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN OUT AND HOW IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY WORK, AND THEN PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY GET ON BOARD WITH IT.

I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE OF GOING FROM A DRAFT ONE TO A DRAFT TWO, THERE'S A BIG CHANGE THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN 1 AND 2, AND TWO IS USUALLY RED LINE TO DEATH TO BASICALLY SHOW THAT WE'VE LISTENED.

OKAY, WE TRIED IT OUT. YOU REALLY STILL HATE IT.

IT'S GONE. AND IT'S. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP.

BUT RIGHT NOW, ASKING HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE CONTROL THE VOLUME OR HOW DO WE ADDRESS THESE? THERE'S A VARIETY OF TECHNIQUES, BUT UNTIL WE PUT THE WHOLE THING TOGETHER, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

I CAN'T TELL YOU THE TECHNICAL DETAILS JUST YET.

WE HAVEN'T STARTED DRAFTING. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. FIRST QUESTION FOR OUR CITY MANAGER IS, DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO RECORD OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS AND TO JUST DESCRIBE THEM? WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO RECORD. MEETINGS ARE HELD HERE AT CITY HALL WHERE WE HAVE RECORDING YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY. AND IF A IF A MEETING IS WEBEX OR TEAMS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN RECORD THOSE MEETINGS.

IF IT'S JUST A PUBLIC MEETING, LIKE YOUR BUDGET TOWN HALLS WHERE FOLKS ARE COMING IN PERSON, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A CITY. I'LL ASK BILLY RAY.

DOES THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE HAVE A TECHNOLOGY TO RECORD LIVE PUBLIC? I DIDN'T THINK SO. SO, NO, NO, THAT IS WE DO NOT.

ACTUALLY, THAT FALLS UNDER THE MEDIA GROUP, BUT NO, THERE ISN'T.

I GUESS YOU WOULD NEED TO SPEAK TO THE MEDIA GROUP ON THAT, BECAUSE IT CAME DOWN TO FUNDING AND RESOURCES TO FILM AND VIDEO THOSE MEETINGS.

AND SO I CAN UNDERSTAND IF IT'S A FUNDING ISSUE.

BUT I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD COUNCIL MEETINGS. WE HAVE WE'VE HAD BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECORDED OFFSITE.

AND SO WE CAN WE CAN CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION.

WE MEANT SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHERE IF THERE WERE A RESIDENT OR A STAKEHOLDER OR AN ADVOCACY GROUP, BUT THAT WE FOLLOWED PEOPLE BY ZIP CODE.

AND SO FOR ME, IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO LISTEN TO TO EVERYONE THAT'S WANTS TO BE PART OF THE OF THE PROCESS.

BUT HOW DO WE DETERMINE A DALLAS RESIDENT VERSUS A NON DALLAS RESIDENT WHEN YOU GUYS ARE SEEING IF THERE'S SUPPORT OR CONCERN? IF YOU ARE JUST GOING TO SAY WE ARE CAPTURING ZIP CODE.

SO IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL WHEN WE RELEASE THE SUMMARY OF ALL OF THE DETAIL, WE CAN FLAG WHICH COMMENTS ARE FROM DALLAS RESIDENTS AND WHICH ARE FROM NON DALLAS RESIDENTS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE SIMPLE AND SORRY TO VOLUNTEER.

YEAH, YEAH I THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT PROBLEM.

THANK YOU. LASTLY IS ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT FEEDBACK, WHETHER IT'S SUPPORT OR CONCERN, HOW DO WE BALANCE IT AGAINST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? BECAUSE STAFF STILL MIGHT RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT IS CONCERNING TO THE RESIDENTS.

AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO BALANCE THAT INTO THE DRAFT? YEAH, I THINK I WOULD SAY NOTHING IS COMING STRAIGHT FROM STAFF TO A VOTE.

THERE'S A LONG ROAD BETWEEN THE THE DRAFT ONE, ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WE'LL HAVE AFTER THAT TO THE DRAFT.

TWO, ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL HAVE AFTER THAT.

NO HEARINGS, NO HEARINGS, MEETINGS, HEARINGS, PUBLIC HEARINGS, NO HEARINGS.

THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION. BUT THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEEDBACK.

AND I THINK IF WE'RE HEARING A CONSISTENT FEEDBACK, NO ONE'S INTERESTED IN BANGING THEIR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE MAY WE MAY MAKE CHANGES BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING.

BUT I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC HEARINGS I'VE BEEN IN IS THAT PEOPLE SEEM SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA OF MAKING THE PROCESS SIMPLER FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY,

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ANY RECOMMENDATION. SO TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT.

HOW DO WE DETERMINE HOW DOES STAFF OR THE CONSULTANT DETERMINE IF THERE IS SUPPORT OR CONCERN.

IS IT. YOU KNOW, ONE MORE IN SUPPORT VERSUS ONE MORE IN OPPOSITION TO REALLY CODIFY THAT SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW THE CONSENSUS.

WELL, FEEDBACK IS IMPORTANT, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS ARE NOT OUR POLICY MAKERS.

SO ULTIMATELY, WE'RE GOING TO RUN ANY POLICY RECOMMENDATION THROUGH OUR NORMAL POLICY PROCESS AND LET YOU ALL MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION, BRINGING YOU WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM ALL OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND FROM ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO WEIGHED IN.

BUT THOSE FOLKS AT THE MEETINGS ARE NOT THE ELECTED POLICY MAKERS.

SO THAT WOULD COME TO YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THE I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED IS THE.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ISSUES SPECIFICALLY.

ARE YOU COUCHING THOSE IN TERMS OF. ARE THEY ALL PART OF YOUR INDUSTRIAL DEFINITION OR IS THEIR RETAIL OFFICE? OTHER, YOU KNOW, USERS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY PURE WAREHOUSE, INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING TYPE OF USES.

ARE THOSE PART OF YOUR PLAN? YES. THERE'S IN THE LARGER PRESENTATION, THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE DISTRICTS.

AND NOW THE STATE HAS MADE THEM ALL MIXED USE.

SO THAT'S COME DOWN. BUT REALLY STARTING TO LOOK AT KIND OF WHAT THAT DISTRICT STRUCTURE SHOULD BE TO CREATE A LOGICAL PROGRESSION AND SCALE AND FUNCTION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY LEVEL ALL THE WAY TO WHERE YOU GET INTO THINGS LIKE YOUR CURRENT RR THAT ARE AUTO ORIENTED COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IKEA NEEDS A PLACE TO GO. AND THEN LOOKING AT SPECIALIZED COMMERCIAL LIKE TOD, WHICH WOULD BE KIND OF A SERIES OF TOD DISTRICTS BECAUSE ALL TRANSIT STOPS AREN'T THE SAME.

AS WELL AS KIND OF THE DOWNTOWN CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AREA.

SO YES, THERE'S A WHOLE SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL.

OKAY. WE'VE GOT SOME TREMENDOUS RESOURCES IN THIS COMMUNITY, IN THIS TOWN OF CONTRACTORS, DEVELOPERS PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH THE CODES ALL THE TIME, PEOPLE THAT ARE VITAL TO THE GROWTH AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY.

SOME OF OUR COUNCIL FOLKS HAVE ALREADY INDICATED WE NEED TO GROW THIS CITY.

WE NEED TO DO IT IN A SMART PROPER WAY. WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO FACILITATE THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE VOICES ARE PART OF THE PROCESS IN SOME WAY.

THIS IS NOT ADVERSARIAL TO RESIDENTIAL. IT IS PART OF THE FOLKS THAT DEAL WITH THESE THINGS IN A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, AND THEY HAVE AS MUCH OF A STAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS DONE PROPERLY, THOUGHTFULLY, AND IS NOT DOESN'T ADVERSELY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE RESIDENTIAL FOLKS.

BUT IF THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE PROCESS, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE SOME KIND OF A PLAN TO INCLUDE THEM IN MORE SIGNIFICANT WORKING GROUPS OR SOME OTHER APPROACHES, SO THAT FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, WE'VE GOT A BETTER DOCUMENT TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT.

I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL. WE'VE ALREADY YOU'VE HEARD FROM FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS, FROM SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS HERE ON THIS, ON THIS DAIS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE.

WE DON'T WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO LOSE THEIR THEIR RIGHTS, THEIR ABILITIES TO TO WEIGH IN THEIR ABILITIES.

TO HAVE A CHECK AND BALANCE IN A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS.

ON PAGE 16. AND I'LL LEAVE THIS WITH SORT OF A WITH A SMILE.

I'M I'M TELLING YOU THIS. AND UNDER YOUR MESSAGING, YOU HAVE A LINE UP POINT THAT SAYS NORMALIZED CONFUSION.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT CONVERSATION TO SAY YOU WANT TO NORMALIZE CONFUSION.

WE'VE GOT CONFUSION ALL THE TIME HERE. SO I THINK WE WANT TO AVOID CONFUSION IF POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. MR. BASIL, DO YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THREE THREE MINUTES. SO I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON I AGREE THAT THE COMMENTS

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AND I THINK THAT IT'S MOST IMPORTANT FOR US TO EDUCATE EACH CONSTITUENCY ON WHAT IT IS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

I DON'T AGREE WITH THE FEEDBACK IN DIFFERENTIATING PEOPLE'S ROLES.

I THINK THAT WE'VE SEEN ACTIVISTS AND RESIDENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF ISSUES.

CAN LABELING ONE AS AN ACTIVIST OR A DEVELOPER OR A STAKEHOLDER.

I MEAN, WE ALSO HAVE DEVELOPERS AND STAKEHOLDERS WHO ARE ALSO RESIDENTS.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S PRODUCTIVE. AND SO I'D, I'D ASK THAT THAT NOT BE DISCRIMINATORY IN COLLECTING THAT DATA.

WE NEED TO HAVE THE RAW DATA OF THOSE WHO HAVE SHOWN UP TO THESE MEETINGS AND HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THIS, BECAUSE IT CLEARLY WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BE THERE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO JUST TAKE A SECOND.

ROBIN, IF YOU COULD TAKE A SECOND AND AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TECHNICAL CHANGES VERSUS SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.

CAN YOU JUST KIND OF ARTICULATE THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT IT IS THAT YOU ALL ARE FLOATING TO US WITH THESE CODE AMENDMENTS VERSUS THAT OF PARKING REFORM, FOR INSTANCE, AND CHANGES THAT WERE THAT WE UNDERWENT WITH THAT PROCESS.

WELL, SO HAD WE NOT DONE PARKING REFORM AS A SEPARATE CODE CLEANUP, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS EXACT PROCESS.

IT'S JUST ONE SUBSET OF THE CODE THAT MOVED A LITTLE BIT FASTER.

BUT YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY THE SORT OF THING WE'VE ASKED OUR CONSULTANT TEAM TO LOOK AT.

HOW DO OTHER CITIES DO THIS? ARE WE STILL IN MARKET? ARE THERE I MEAN, DATA CENTERS DIDN'T EXIST WHEN THIS CODE WAS WRITTEN, RIGHT? THERE ARE USES THAT WEREN'T EVEN AROUND THEN.

WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BETTER ACCOMMODATE AND HAVE CLEANER DEFINITIONS.

AND THEN THERE ARE THINGS THAT DALLAS DOES THAT MAYBE ARE NOT AS EFFICIENT AS OTHER CITIES HAD A BETTER IDEA.

SO ALL OF THOSE ARE IN THE DIAGNOSTIC REPORT.

WHAT WILL ACTUALLY BRING FORWARD IN THE FIRST DRAFT? I MEAN, WE'RE NOT JOKING WHEN WE SAY IT HAS NOT BEEN DRAFTED, RIGHT? THERE IS NO PROPOSAL YET. THIS IS REALLY JUST DIAGNOSTIC LISTENING, LEARNING FEEDBACK.

I THINK WE'VE HEARD VERY CLEARLY FROM THE COUNCIL TODAY THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO KEEP THE COMMENT PERIOD OPEN LATER.

AND SO I'LL SEND A FRIDAY MEMO OUT THIS WEEK KIND OF OUTLINING OUR NEXT STEPS BASED ON TODAY'S FEEDBACK.

AND WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU ALL HAVE GRAPHICS SO YOU CAN COMMUNICATE TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND STAKEHOLDERS HOW TO COMMENT, HOW TO GIVE FEEDBACK. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S REALLY SUPER PUBLIC, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE BEFORE WE GET THAT FIRST DRAFT STARTED.

I'LL WORK WITH EMILY TO SEE IF WE NEED TO AMEND YOUR CONTRACT. WELL, MAYBE WE'LL MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

BUT NO, WE THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS PROCESS WORKS FOR EVERYONE AND THAT WE'RE REALLY CLEAR WITH OUR COMMUNITY THAT NOTHING IS CHANGING IN YOUR CURRENT ZONING OR IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE JUST CHANGING TEXT AT THIS POINT.

IT'S JUST CLEANING UP TEXT. SO I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT IT IS THAT'S BEING ASKED. SO THAT THAT'S THE FIRST STEP IN BEING ABLE TO TELL OUR CONSTITUENTS WHAT WHERE WE STAND ON AN ISSUE.

BUT, MAYOR, YOU'VE TOUTED US BEING THE NINTH LARGEST CITY OF THE COUNTRY SINCE YOU'VE BEEN IN OFFICE.

AND I'D LIKE FOR US TO STAY THERE OR MOVE UP.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE US MOVING BACKWARDS. I DON'T WANT TO SEE FORT WORTH, WHO'S RAPIDLY GROWING END UP AHEAD OF US, OR AUSTIN. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'VE BEEN AS A CITY AND WHERE WE ARE GOING AS A CITY, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO MATCH THE RAPID GROWTH OF OUR REGION SURROUNDING US IN THESE SUBURBS WHO ARE TAKING HEADQUARTERS AWAY FROM OUR CITY, WHO ARE TAKING RESIDENTS AWAY FROM OUR CITY, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR ABILITY AND WHAT IS NEEDED TO KEEP US AS THE CENTER OF THIS LARGE REGION OF THE NATION.

IF WE RESIST ANY CHANGES JUST TO TO STICK WITH THE STATUS QUO, THEN WE ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING OUR CITY DOWN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. WEST RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION TODAY.

A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO TOUCH ON. ONE IS DO WE STOP AND NOT DRAFT A PROPOSAL AND JUST TAKE THE ROAD SHOW OUT THERE WITH THE DIAGNOSTIC? OR DO WE DRAFT THE PROPOSAL AND TAKE THAT OUT THERE? I DON'T THINK A DIAGNOSTIC. IT'S NOT PROVIDING THE ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO I THINK WE HAVE TO SEE THE PROPOSAL. WE CAN GIVE IT A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN AS A COUNCIL.

BUT IN ORDER FOR THE RESIDENTS TO REALLY KNOW WHAT STAFF'S GOING TO PROPOSE, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE THE PROPOSAL AND THEN WE MAKE THE DECISION IF WE ACCEPT IT OR NOT AFTER THAT. THE OTHER THING IS, LIKE, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM THE HORSESHOE TODAY.

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WE A LOT OF US UP HERE ARE VERY PRIVILEGED TO HAVE OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR AND YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE WE LIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DALLAS CANNOT SAY THAT SAME THING.

AND IF WE DON'T LIVE IN THIS BUBBLE WITH NORMAN ROCKWELL HOMES AND PICKET FENCES AND A DOG AND TWO KIDS LIKE, EVERY LIKE OUR CITY IS DIFFERENT.

IT'S CHANGING. IT'S GROWING, AND WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE MAKE THIS PLAN FOR THE NEXT 30, 40, 50 YEARS FOR OUR CITY, THAT IF WE CONTINUE TO JUST ENSHRINE WHAT WE HAVE WE WILL PRICE EVERYBODY OUT OF THE CITY AND IT'LL BE GOOD FOR US BECAUSE OUR HOME VALUES ARE GOING TO GO UP, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.

SO FOR ME, I'M READY TO HAVE THE TOUGH HAVE CONVERSATIONS.

I'M READY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND FIGURE IT OUT.

AS MY COLLEAGUE OVER HERE MENTIONED, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN DURING OUR TIME BUT I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF US GETTING INTO THE TRENCHES AND BATTLING IT OUT.

THANK YOU. MISS STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR IT.

LOOKS LIKE THREE MINUTES ALSO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DON'T I WANT TO BE CAREFUL HOW I SAY THIS, BUT.

AND I DON'T MEAN ANY DISRESPECT, BUT IF YOU CHANGE THE LANGUAGE ON AN SGP AND YOU TAKE OUT THE ABILITY TO HAVE RENEWALS AND ALL YOU'VE DONE IS JUST CHANGE THE LANGUAGE, YOU HAVE IMPACTED POLICY, YOU HAVE IMPACTED THE VOICE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR ABILITY TO SPEAK UP ABOUT A BAR.

SO IT'S NOT YOU ARE CHANGING LANGUAGE, I GET THAT, BUT LANGUAGE IS POWERFUL AND WORDS ARE POWERFUL AND THEY'RE GOING.

IT IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT. SO I DON'T MEAN TO PICK A FIGHT OR OR BE TOO PICKY, BUT I JUST, I REALLY. I DO THINK WORDS ARE IMPORTANT, AND I DO THINK GETTING INPUT FROM OUR RESIDENTS BEFORE WE GET THOSE WORDS IN A DRAFT WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE AND WOULD BE VERY RESPECTFUL TO ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO THIS, THIS, THIS IS THEIR HOME AND TO THE POINT OF LIVING IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

DISTRICT TEN HAS 36,000 NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.

THAT'S A LOT. WE HAVE A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DISTRICT TEN, AS WELL AS OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOME RESIDENCES.

SO WE'RE A A VERY DYNAMIC MIX AND HAVE BEEN SINCE PROBABLY THE LATE 80S, EARLY 90S OF MULTI-FAMILY TOWNHOMES, CONDOS AND SINGLE FAMILY.

SO I THINK I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT PERSPECTIVE.

THAT MY RESIDENTS DO LIVE IN MULTIFAMILY AND IN CONDOS, BUT THEY ALSO WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT PERHAPS A BAR, YOU KNOW, HALF A MILE AWAY THAT HAS AN SUP. AND THEY WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK UP IF THAT BAR BECAME A NUISANCE.

SO WE GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE. WE GOT LOTS OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY ONE SINGLE TYPE OF SITUATION.

WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF VARIETY OF SITUATIONS, BUT THE WORDS THAT YOU ALL USE TO MAKE THESE CHANGES WILL MAKE CHANGES ULTIMATELY. SO I JUST ASK YOU TO PLEASE ENCOURAGE.

PLEASE GIVE US A CHANCE FOR MORE INPUT BEFORE THOSE WORDS ARE ON PAPER.

THANK YOU. IF I COULD JUMP IN. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I DIDN'T COME IN AFTER COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNCILWOMAN STEWART.

SO I THINK WHAT WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO DO TODAY, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THESE ONE OFF CONVERSATIONS, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM THE COLLECTIVE BODY.

I KNOW THAT OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER HAS COMMUNICATED THE WAY WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHARE INFORMATION.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AROUND THE WORDS. WORDS HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF THE CITY OR THE WAY WE DESCRIBE AND DEFINE WHAT THOSE WORDS ARE.

SO WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE POLICIES THAT THIS BODY HAS ALREADY APPROVED.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW FOR ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD COME THAT WOULD BE IN CONTRARY OR IN OPPOSITION TO WHAT THIS BODY HAS ALREADY GIVEN US FROM A GUIDE FROM FROM THE GUIDANCE THAT WE HAVE. AND SO WHAT WE WILL DO, WE STILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THIS DIAGNOSTIC REPORT PERIOD IS SO CRITICAL, BECAUSE IT STILL MAY BE WHERE SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS, WHETHER THEY ARE DEVELOPERS OR NOT, IF THEY'RE IN OUR CITY AND THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROCESS,

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SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S COMING OUT OF THOSE COMMUNICATIONS.

SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE I HEARD COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY, YOU HAVEN'T COME TO SIT DOWN WITH US, TALK TO US, COME GIVE US THE DETAIL. WE WILL DO THAT.

AND ALSO TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE FEEDBACK, THAT IT'LL BE FLUID AND WILL MAKE IT A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT. SO WE'LL DEFINITELY DO THAT.

SO YOU SEE, EVEN ONCE WE SAY WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE MOVING FROM THE DIAGNOSTIC PHASE.

AS COMMENTS CONTINUE, WE WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. SO THIS IS A TRANSPARENT PROCESS.

BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING WE'RE NOT USING THIS TO SAY THAT THIS IS THE POLICY.

WE'RE SHARING THE INFORMATION. WE'RE TELLING YOU WHERE WE ARE, WE'RE GETTING YOUR INPUT.

SO WHEN WE DO COME BACK, WE CAN PRETTY MUCH DO A SIDE BY SIDE ON HERE'S POLICY THAT'S ALREADY ON, FROM A COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT, I HEAR THE THINGS YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED US TO DO, AND HERE IS WHERE WE ARE, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE SHOW YOU WHERE THERE MIGHT BE CONFLICTS AND THE WAYS THAT WE BELIEVE FROM A RECOMMENDATION STANDPOINT, HOW WE RESOLVE IT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, ANY DECISIONS ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD REALLY IS RIGHT HERE WITH THIS CITY COUNCIL, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU'VE ASKED US TO GO AND DO WITH EXISTING POLICIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

I JUST WANTED TO AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO REITERATE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF MIXED MESSAGES OUT THERE THAT THIS IS ABOUT WE'RE DONE.

HERE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND NOW WE'RE READY TO GO CHANGE THE CODE. THAT IS NOT WHERE WE ARE. AND THAT'S NOT THE MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE TODAY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS BLACKMON. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AND I KNOW I'M PRETTY CLOSE TO LUNCHTIME.

SO REAL QUICKLY, WHAT IS THE DEADLINE TO GET A DRAFT OUT? THERE IS NO DEADLINE. OKAY, SO THERE'S NO DEADLINE.

SO YOU CAN STILL TAKE THIS FALL TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION.

COME AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND WE START REDLINING.

SOMETHING? IS THAT A DOABLE IN YOUR VIEW, EVEN START REDLINING.

IF WE TAKE FEEDBACK THROUGH THE FALL, THEN EARLY NEXT YEAR WE WOULD RELEASE THE VERY FIRST DRAFT FOR FEEDBACK.

THAT'S WHAT. AND TO START REDLINING. YES, EXACTLY.

AND I MEAN, I WAS PART OF THE TEAM. IT WOULDN'T BE A RED LINE, THOUGH.

IT WOULD BE A YOU KNOW, WE RED LINE IT. OH, YOU RED LINE.

THE PUBLIC DRAFT WE RELEASED. YEAH. OR THE COMMUNITY DOES.

AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS NOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE HEARD AND PUT IT IN, COUPLED WITH PROFESSIONAL LIKE WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS TO A THIS VERSUS THAT, WHATEVER THAT WORD IS.

AND THAT'S THEN THE WORK STARTS HAPPENING AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

IS THAT YOU JUST THIS NEW TIMELINE. THAT'S RIGHT. SO THE FIRST NO, WE'RE PAST THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, THE PUBLIC DRAFT. FAIR ENOUGH. IF WE LEAVE COMMENT OPEN THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR AND THEN THEY BEGIN THEIR WORK OF DRAFT.

WELL, ACTUALLY, COMMENT STAYS OPEN THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. COMMENT ON THE DIAGNOSTIC. YEAH.

OKAY. YES. BECAUSE WHAT I THINK WE'RE HEARING HERE IS THAT THE WORK IS REALLY STARTING.

WE'RE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING AND YOU'RE GETTING YOU'RE GETTING AHEAD OF IT. BECAUSE IF YOU HAD CONTINUE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND HADN'T COME TO US, YOU PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN BEATEN UP. AND SO NOW YOU'RE HERE SAYING, HEY, THIS IS THE BEGINNING.

WE'RE OUT THERE TALKING TO FOLKS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TALKING, AND THEN WE GET A DOCUMENT TO THEN START GRADING, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE YOU'VE NOW SPENT NINE MONTHS IN THIS CONVERSATION MODE.

THAT'S RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FIVE MONTHS BEFORE. THAT'S RIGHT.

AND SO I, I, I'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY. I WAS THE I'M FORMER DALLAS ONE.

I HANDLED THE FOR A YEAR. THAT'S ALL WE DID IS JUST TALK TO PEOPLE INTIMATELY BIG MEETINGS.

CHAMBERS AND TOOK THE INFORMATION. AND THEN WE THEN PRESENTED A DRAFT DOCUMENT THAT SAID, DID WE GET EVERYTHING YOU SAID? AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS THIS IS WE ARE PART OF THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION FROM TO SAY, ARE WE GETTING EVERYTHING YOU SAID? SO WE'RE STILL IN A LONG JOURNEY.

I SAY WE WILL NOT BE TALKING ABOUT VOTING ON THIS TO PRAY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, LATER OR EVEN LATER.

AND SO I'M OKAY WITH YOU CONTINUING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS COME BACK TO US AT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, FEBRUARY, SAYING, DID WE GET IT RIGHT? DID WE HEAR EVERYTHING? AND THEN WE START LITERALLY GRADING YOUR PAPER AND SAYING, NO, WE GOT THIS WRONG.

THIS NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED. THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ROUND OF CONVERSATIONS WITH INDIVIDUALS.

SO I'M OKAY WITH GETTING SOMETHING BACK AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH OF TALKING, HAVING COMMUNITY MEETINGS, HAVING SMALL INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO BE THAT WAY. YOU GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO THEN CREATE A DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN THEN START DETERMINING IF THIS IS WHERE WE WANT OUR CITY TO GO OR NOT. SO THAT'S JUST MY FEEDBACK. I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY'S WANTING TO GIVE IT TO YOU, BUT I KNOW THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A LONG ROAD TRIP.

SO BUCKLE UP. WE'LL TAKE AS LONG AS WE NEED TO GET IT RIGHT.

IT NEEDS TO BE DONE CORRECTLY. YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD MAKE IT SLOW, BUT NOT TOO SLOW, BUT NOT TOO FAST.

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SO WHAT SPEED IS THAT. IS THAT A FIVE. IS THAT A GO AT FIVE.

SO I MEAN YEAH. AND YOU KNOW NO JET FUEL BUT DEFINITELY WE'RE NOT FLINTSTONES.

RIGHT. AND SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST IT'S AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT HERE IS THAT WE TAKE SMALL STEPS, STEPS SLOWLY.

AND IF IT TAKES A YEAR OR IT TAKES A YEAR AND A HALF, SO BE IT.

BUT IT IS A PROCESS THAT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP MOVING IT DOWN THE FIELD.

OTHERWISE THE GAME WILL NEVER BE OVER. SO THAT'S JUST MY FEEDBACK.

OKAY. CHAIRWOMAN MENZEL, YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S FOR ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU. SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN A DRAFT DOCUMENT WITH POLICY CHANGES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT AGAIN.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST AS CLEAR AND PLAIN AS I CAN BE ABOUT IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, I LOVE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT SPECIFICALLY IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU HAVE ACTUALLY THE MOST AFFORDABLE UNITS.

DISTRICT 12 IS NUMBER TWO. AND I THINK THAT SOMETIMES IS NOT APPARENT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING AT THIS HORSESHOE.

DISTRICT 14 HAS THE MOST TOWNHOMES AND CONDOS.

DISTRICT 12. NUMBER TWO WE HAVE A LOT OF HOUSING DIVERSITY.

WE DO NEED DENSITY WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT WHERE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE IS IN OUR EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AND WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE US CONFUSE ZONING REFORM FOR OUR ABSOLUTE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON DEVELOPING AND INVESTING IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, AND THAT IS HOW WE GROW OUR CITY, BUT PASSING BAD POLICIES IS ONLY GOING TO LEAD TO RESIDENT TURNOVER.

THANK YOU. MR. BAZALDUA RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS IN OUR CITY THAT Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING BRINGING IN DENSITY? WE'VE WE'VE MADE NO PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE DENSITY OF EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY.

I KNEW THE ANSWER. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS PUT ON RECORD, BECAUSE IT'S, AGAIN, MISLEADING FROM SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE HERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND NOT JUST TRYING TO SOUND THE ALARMS. I THINK THAT THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY, VERY PRELIMINARY STAGE OF A VERY LONG PROCESS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH YOU ALL AND OUR CONSTITUENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT IS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BEFORE ANY DEFINITIVE ACTION IS TAKEN.

BUT I DO HOPE THAT THIS IS A LARGER CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE TO STOP CONFLICTING INFORMATION AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

WHEN IT COMES TO DENSITY, WE CANNOT. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO WITNESS HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET, THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RESIST ANY DENSITY IN OUR CITY TELL US THAT WE NEED TO DROP OUR TAX RATE.

MARK MY WORDS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON AND OR ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO, GUYS, THE PLAN WILL BE WILL RECESS FOR LUNCH AND WE'LL PICK UP WHEN WE COME BACK WITH ITEMS B,

[CLOSED SESSION]

SO LET ME READ YOU THE LANGUAGE AND THEN WE WILL STAND AT RECESS UNTIL 2:00.

IT IS 12:48 P.M. ON AUGUST 20TH, 2025. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOT GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551 .071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED IN TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE AND UNDER SECTION 551 .074.

THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEMS NUMBERS THREE AND FOUR AND UNDER SECTION 551 .087 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MANNER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WITH THAT, WE STAND AT RECESS UNTIL 2 P.M..

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS 551 .0715, 51.074 AND 551 .087 OF THE TEXAS OPENING ACT AT 3:18 P.M.

ON AUGUST 20TH, 2025. WE RETURN TO OPEN SESSION.

MADAM CITY MANAGER, WE'RE BACK TO YOUR BRIEFINGS.

[B. 25-2292A FY 2025-26 Budget: Park and Recreation Department]

WELL, OF THE AFTERNOON. EXCUSE ME. THIS YEAR'S BUDGET REFLECTS A BALANCE BETWEEN FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND OUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO HIGH QUALITY SERVICE DELIVERY THROUGH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. THE DEPARTMENT IDENTIFIED NEARLY $3 MILLION IN EFFICIENCIES BY OPTIMIZING RECREATION CENTER HOURS, TRANSITIONING TO CERTAIN FACILITIES TO NEW MANAGEMENT MODELS, ADJUSTING SCHEDULES ACROSS THEIR SYSTEM, SUNSETTING OLDER, LESS SUSTAINABLE LEGACY POOLS THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE CONTINUING TO MAINTAIN A FOCUS ON SUSTAINING CORE SERVICES AND ENSURING THAT FACILITIES UNDER OUR PARKS AND RECREATION

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WE ALSO DEFINITELY WANTED TO ADDRESS THE BUDGET AROUND FAIR PARK, WHICH CONTINUES TO BE A MAJOR COMPONENT OF THIS EFFORT, WITH TARGETED SUPPORT FOR OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE AND ENHANCEMENTS THAT CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE FOR OUR PARKS ROLE AS A CULTURAL AND AS AN ECONOMIC ANCHOR FOR THE REGION. OVERALL THROUGH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, IT DEFINITELY IT CONTINUES TO HELP US DELIVER SERVICES MORE STRATEGICALLY, RESPONSIBLY AND IN A WAY THAT OUR PARK SYSTEM REMAINS ONE OF THE MOST VISIBLE AND VALUED SERVICE IN DALLAS.

SO AT THIS TIME, I WANT TO THANK THE PARK DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP AND THE ENTIRE TEAM WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DID ALONGSIDE OF US OVER THE SUMMER. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. JENKINS TO NOW MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. JOHN. IS YOUR MIC ON, JOHN JENKINS? OH, THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT. THAT WAS A GREAT INTRODUCTION.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MAYOR. WE WILL BE SHORT AND BRIEF.

AS MISS TOLBERT MENTIONED, AS WE PRESENT OUR BUDGET, AS WE MAKE THESE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS THIS YEAR, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DID NOT IMPACT ANY CORE SERVICES OR WE DIDN'T ADJUST ANY OF OUR SUPPORT SERVICES THAT SUPPORT CORE SERVICES DIRECTLY.

AND SO IT WAS A VERY THOUGHTFUL PROCESS ON AREAS THAT I FELT LIKE WE COULD ADJUST THE BUDGET WITHOUT MAKING SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DELIVERY IMPACT. NOW, I KNOW WE WILL. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE POSITION AS RELATES TO OUR COMMUNITY POOLS.

I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN READING ARTICLES. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO MANY OF YOU ALL, BUT THIS IS A SUBJECT THAT I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR AT LEAST THE LAST THREE YEARS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DECOMMISSION THESE POOLS AT SOME POINT, AND WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN WHERE WE STRATEGICALLY START DECOMMISSIONING THESE COMMUNITY POOLS SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN ENJOY THESE NEW AQUATICS FACILITIES THAT WAS MEANT TO SERVE MORE AND TO GIVE ALL OUR PATRONS A BETTER EXPERIENCE, A BETTER RECREATIONAL EXPERIENCE.

AND I DO WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL AS WELL THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT'S DONE EVERY YEAR, THE COMMUNITY POOLS IS OUR LOWEST SCORE, WHICH IS A 51 WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE PARK SYSTEM AVERAGES IN THE HIGH 70S OR 80.

AND SO FROM MY POSITION, THESE COMMUNITY POOLS HAVE TO BE DECOMMISSIONED BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY IF WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY, THAT IS ONE THING. IT'S NOT SERVING ANYMORE.

THEY'VE BEEN THEY WAS BUILT IN 1945, 47, 54. AND IT'S TIME, AS I EXPLAINED TO THE PARK BOARD, IT'S TIME TO DECOMMISSION THESE POOLS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE A CRYSTAL ROSS, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, HERE WITH ME, AND I HAVE RACHEL BERRY, WHO SERVES OVER OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND BUSINESS SERVICES, AND SHE'S OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, AND SHE WILL BE WALKING YOU ALL THROUGH THE BRIEFING AND AS I MENTIONED, WILL BE VERY BRIEF TODAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON.

YOU WILL FIND A HARD COPY THAT HAS BEEN HANDED OUT.

WE DID WANT TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO REFLECT OR TO MAKE THE CLARIFY SOME FISCAL YEAR INFORMATION ON THERE.

SO IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE FOLLOW ALONG IN THE HANDOUT.

SO THE PRESENTATION OVERVIEW. OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH JUST A VERY QUICK LOOK AT WHAT THE PARK AND RECREATION BUDGET IS, WHAT OUR 2526 PROPOSED TARGET ADJUSTMENTS ARE.

OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT FAIR PARK BUDGET.

AND ALSO JUST QUICK NEXT STEPS. THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND IN HISTORY.

WE KNOW WE STARTED OUT WITH THE PLAN BUDGET. THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR AFTER HAVING A MEETING WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO DISCUSS OUR BUDGETARY REQUEST. WE HAD TURNED IN SOME REQUEST.

IT TURNED OUT THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT TO OUR BUDGET IN THE AMOUNT OF $3 MILLION, WHICH WE HAVE BROUGHT IN AROUND THAT NUMBER. ALSO I DO WANT TO SAY THAT NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THESE SLIDES TOO MUCH FROM WHAT HAD ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED TO PARK BOARD AT THE TIME THAT WE HAD DONE THIS, WE HAD ALSO OFFERED A $500,000 REVENUE INCREASE.

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SO IF WE COULD LOOK AT OUR BUDGETS. CURRENT BUDGET THROUGH 2627 627 PLANNED.

WE KNOW THAT WE STARTED OUT AT 121 THIS YEAR FOR 2526.

HAVING TAKEN THE ADJUSTMENTS IN THERE, OF COURSE, WE ALSO DID RECEIVE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR FAIR PARK.

WE RECEIVED $1 MILLION FOR TAKING ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THE RECREATION CENTERS.

OUR 2.9 WAS OUR EFFICIENCY CUT. OUR ADJUSTMENTS.

WE'VE HAD SOME SACRED CODES CHANGE. AND THEN JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS NUMBER DOES INCLUDE THAT WE WILL BE DOING A $5.9 MILLION TRANSFER OUT FOR THE FAIR PARK FUNDS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR BUDGET THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE NEW FAIR PARK FUND.

SO AS WE GO INTO OUR PROPOSED BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS, AS THE DIRECTOR MENTIONED WE WERE LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCIES.

WE WERE LOOKING TO ALIGN OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO NEED TO DECOMMISSION THE OUTDATED LEGACY POOLS.

SO WE ALSO HAVE TO WORK AT OPTIMIZING OUR REC CENTER HOURS AND THEN REDUCING OVERTIME THROUGH SOME OF OUR STREAMLINING.

OUR PROGRAMING WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO US IN MAKING THESE ADJUSTMENTS.

OF COURSE, WE ALSO MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO POSITIONS LOOKING THAT WE DIDN'T AFFECT OUR CORE SERVICES, BUT JUST KIND OF ELIMINATED THE POSITIONS THAT WE COULD DO WITHOUT.

IF WE WENT TOWARDS A LOOKING AT OPERATIONS THAT WE COULD GET BIDS ON OR EITHER LEASE OUT THINGS FOR KEYS, YOU KNOW, SOFTBALL, QUAD PLEX, AND OF COURSE, PROBABLY LOOKING TO DO THE SAME THING WITH SOUTHERN SKATES.

OUR LAST BULLET SAYS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR PARK MAINTENANCE SERVICES.

OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO RE SCOPE THOSE MOWING SCHEDULES, BUT IT WILL BE ADJUSTED FOR LESS VISIBLE SITES.

THERE IS A WAY WHERE WE CAN GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT THOSE SITES TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO TO NOT HAVE SUCH A HEAVY IMPACT.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE PERFORMING THAT VEGETATION MANAGEMENT ESPECIALLY ON THE WEEKENDS, OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING THE WEEKEND EVENT AND SUPPORT BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE EVENTS ARE DONE ON OVERTIME, WHICH ARE VERY COSTLY TO THE DEPARTMENT. SO WE WILL BE PUTTING OUR TOTAL DEPARTMENTAL SAVINGS AT $2.9 MILLION.

KNOWING OKAY, KNOWING THAT WE DO HAVE A DISCUSSION UNDERWAY FOR THE LEGACY POOLS.

WE'VE WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED THIS INFORMATION ON THE AQUATIC CENTERS VERSUS THE LEGACY POOLS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THE THIS IS BASED ON 2023 AGAINST 2025 SIMPLY BECAUSE 2024, WE HAD THREE POOL CLOSURES, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL COULD LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION WHEN THE POOLS WERE COMPLETELY OPEN.

SO IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, WHAT WE'RE REALLY CONSIDERING AS WE CLOSE, AS WE LOOK AT DECOMMISSIONING, DECOMMISSIONING THOSE POOLS, IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE CONSIDERATIONS.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE. SURE. YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE. BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO LOOK AT THE PROXIMITY NEXT TO ANOTHER FACILITY.

WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE AGE OF THE FACILITY. IF YOU'LL SEE ALL OF THE AGES HERE YOU CAN SEE HOW OLD THESE LEGACY POOLS REALLY ARE.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TO SEE WHAT CURRENT AQUATIC AMENITIES WE HAVE NEARBY, WHETHER IT BE A SPLASH PAD OR SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT COULD HELP COMPENSATE THE LOSS OF NOT HAVING THAT LEGACY POOL THERE. SO WHAT WE THESE ARE THE NUMBERS HERE.

WHAT WE'VE PROVIDED ON THE NEXT PAGE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE MAP FOR THE AQUATIC POOLS AND SPRAY GROUNDS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY ARE WITH THROUGHOUT THE CITY. COMPARE THE PROXIMITY TO THE NEXT FACILITY AND WHAT CURRENT AMENITIES WE HAVE NEXT TO THEM.

SPRAY GROUNDS OR BE AT BAHAMA BEACH OR AN INDOOR POOL.

WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE FAIR PARK BUDGET. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RECEIVED FAIR PARK BACK.

SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAD A REQUEST OUT THERE FOR MORE FUNDS FOR FAIR PARK.

THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT FAIR PARK. THE CURRENT CONDITIONS THAT IT'S IN THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

WE DO HAVE AN ASSESSMENT UNDERWAY AT THE MOMENT, BUT THEN IN TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE IN A BUDGET SHORTFALL THIS YEAR.

SO THE DIRECTOR HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO GET US TO THIS NEW BUDGET THAT WE HAVE NOW, WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, WE ARE LOOKING AT AN $18.8 MILLION TO OPERATE FAIR PARK.

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SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE ENHANCEMENT REQUEST OF 2.5 MILLION FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT 2627, YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THE EXPENSE TOTALS ARE UP.

HOWEVER, THE ENHANCEMENT REQUEST IS DOWN AND WE PLAN ON EARNING MORE REVENUE.

THE PLAN IS TO BECOME, OF COURSE, MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT ON OUR OWN REVENUE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK TO COUNCIL TO ASK FOR MORE FUNDS.

SO WE'LL JUST MOVE RIGHT ON TO OUR NEXT STEPS.

SO WE ARE SUBMITTING A PARK BOARD APPROVED PLAN FOR BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BRING FORWARD A LEGACY POOL PROPOSAL TO PARK BOARD FOR DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN SETTLE THOSE POOLS BEFORE BUDGET CLOSE. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE QUESTIONS. THAT WAS BRIEF.

YES. WE'RE FINISHED, MA'AM. IS THAT IT? YES IT IS.

YES. YES. YES. I WAS HERE FOR KRYSTAL ROSS. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU, SIR.

HI. HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING WELL. THANK YOU. OKAY.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE. JUST KIDDING. PAUL REALLY HAS QUESTIONS FOR YOU. FIVE MINUTES. PAUL RIDLEY ON A BRIEFING.

ITEM B FROM TODAY'S AGENDA. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

MR. JENKINS, CAN YOU DESCRIBE IN PRACTICAL TERMS WHAT IT MEANS TO DECOMMISSION A COMMUNITY POOL? YEAH, LIKE I EXPLAINED TO THE PARK BOARD. AND WHEN I LOOK AT DECOMMISSIONING POOLS, BECAUSE THIS WAS ALREADY IN THE PLAN WHEN WE APPROVED THE.

YEAH, WHEN I USED TO TURN DECOMMISSIONED, AS I EXPLAINED TO THE BOARD LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, DECOMMISSIONING IS WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAD A PLAN TO START TAKING THESE POOLS OUT OF SERVICE.

THEY HAVE LIVED THEIR LIFE. AND SO WE NEED TO START DECOMMISSIONING.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, THE TERM I USED TO THE BOARD, WE GOT TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR MISERY.

THEY'RE OLD, THEY'RE ANTIQUATED. YOU CAN'T GET PAST FOR THEM.

AND ANY POOL I DO LEAVE OPEN. EVEN IF I WERE TO CLOSE TO THIS YEAR, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF CANNIBALIZE THOSE.

I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE JUSTIFICATION FOR DECOMMISSIONING. YEAH. THE JUSTIFICATION YOU MEAN BY DECOMMISSION.

DOES THAT MEAN YOU FILL THEM WITH SOIL? DO YOU TEAR THEM OUT OF THE GROUND, OR DO YOU JUST PUT A FENCE AROUND THEM? YEAH. WE WHAT WE DO WHEN WE DECOMMISSION A POOL, WE WILL WE WILL REMOVE THE POOL.

AND THEN ONCE WE DECIDE ON BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO FINISH UP THE MASTER PLAN LATE THIS FALL, AND IT WOULD TELL US IF YOU GO BACK WITH NOTHING, YOU GO BACK WITH A SPLASH PAD, YOU GO BACK WITH A SPRAY GROUND, OR IT MAY RECOMMEND YOU GO BACK WITH A NEW POOL.

OKAY. WITH RESPECT TO FAIR PARK, YOU'RE GETTING LESS MONEY THAN YOU ASKED FOR INITIALLY FOR THE OPERATION.

ASSUMING THE OPERATION, WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE WILL BE THE FALLOFF IN SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE AT FAIR PARK AS A RESULT OF THE PROPOSED FUNDING LEVEL? WELL, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CHALLENGED MY STAFF TO THAT.

WE NEED TO BRING IN MORE REVENUES AND WE'VE BEEN CHECKING OUT OTHER REVENUE MODELS.

BUT YET WE WENT AND CHECKED OUT THE ROSE BOWL JUST RECENTLY, AND THEY'RE MAKING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF OF A VENUE THAT'S JUST LIKE THE COTTON BOWL. IT'S IDENTICAL. IT'S OLD. THEY BOTH WERE BUILT AROUND THE SAME TIME.

THEY HAVE THE SAME STRUCTURAL ISSUES. THEY HAVE THE SAME LEGACY ISSUES, BUT THEY HAVE FIGURED OUT A WAY HOW TO MONETIZE THE ROSE BOWL, AND NOT JUST FOR THE ROSE BOWL GAME.

AND SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE MOST WE HAVE EVER MADE IN THE COTTON BOWL IS $3 MILLION.

IN THE 32 YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE, WHERE I CAN TELL YOU, OUT IN THE ROSE BOWL GENERATES ABOUT $60 MILLION A YEAR. AND SO I HAVE CHALLENGED MY STAFF TO KNOW, AND I KNOW THEY HAVE MORE SUITES AND MORE CLUB LEVEL.

THEY GOT 42 SUITES. WE JUST DID THE RENOVATION WHERE WE HAVE 16 SUITES AND WE WILL HAVE CLUB LEVEL.

AND SO IT'S UP TO MY TEAM WORKING WITH PROFESSIONALS THAT WE HIRE TO BRING IN THOSE REVENUES TO MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE.

SO WE'RE NOT DEPENDING SO MUCH ON THE GENERAL FUND, AND I AM CHALLENGING MY STAFF TO DO THAT.

AND SO I DON'T SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SHORTFALL.

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YOU ALL HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THERE TO FIGURE IT OUT WITH US.

BUT I DO NOT SEE US FALLING SHORT. ARE YOU CONSIDERING PRIVATIZING THE OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT OF FAIR PARK TO ANOTHER ENTITY, OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT LONG TERM MANAGEMENT BY PARKS AND RECREATION? YEAH, I WOULD SAY, AS I WAS EXPLAINING TO THE BOARD LAST WEEK, IS I WOULD LIKE TO WE WANT TO HAVE THE THREE PRONGED APPROACH THIS TIME, BECAUSE THE FIRST APPROACH WAS WHERE THE PARK DEPARTMENT MANAGED EVERYTHING OUT AT FAIR PARK AND THEN THE OTHER APPROACH.

WE WENT TO THIS NONPROFIT AND FOR PROFIT MANAGED THE ENTIRE OPERATION.

BUT FOR THE IN THE INTERIM, AT LEAST THE NEXT 2 TO 3 YEARS.

I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THE APPROACH OF WHERE DEPARTMENT PARK DEPARTMENT OVERSEES THE ENTIRE OPERATIONS.

HOWEVER, WE'RE USING PROFESSIONALS TO CONTRACT OUT ALL THESE DIFFERENT SERVICES BECAUSE THEY'RE THE EXPERTS IN THOSE AREAS.

AND WE WOULD STILL NEED A NONPROFIT TO DO THE FUNDRAISING ARM.

AND IT'S SIMILAR WHAT THEY DO AT THE ROSE BOWL.

IT PRETTY MUCH IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF MODEL AND IT'S BEEN WORKING.

IT GENERATES THEM OVER. I WANT TO SAY THEIR GOOD YEAR WAS $78 MILLION.

THAT'S JUST FOR THE COTTON BOWL. IT WAS NOT LIKE WHEN WE HAVE FAIR PARK THE WHOLE ENTIRE CAMPUS.

SO YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT STARTING A PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR ANOTHER VENDOR? THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE OVERALL FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF FAIR PARK, LIKE WE DID WITH FAIR PARK FIRST AND OG.

NOT AT THIS POINT. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO DO IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE WE AND I'M NOT SAYING THROW OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER, BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM THIS EXPERIENCE IS THE CITY CAN'T GIVE UP THAT MUCH CONTROL IN THE FUTURE. YOU JUST CAN'T, NOT WITH A VERY COMPLEX OPERATIONS LIKE FAIR PARK.

IT'S JUST NOT LIKE YOU'RE JUST MANAGING A STADIUM.

YOU'RE MANAGING MUSEUMS, YOU'RE MANAGING A PARK, YOU'RE MANAGING A MAJOR STADIUM, YOU'RE MANAGING THE HALL.

AND I CAN GO ON AND ON WHY IT'S SO COMPLEX. AND I THINK WE HAVE LEARNED THAT LESSON AND AND IN GOOD CONSCIENCE AND SEEING OVER THE 32 YEARS HOW THE PLACE HAS BEEN OPERATED, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND WITHIN THE NEXT 2 OR 3 YEARS THAT WE GO BACK TO JUST HAVING A SINGLE OPERATOR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. JOHNSON, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON BRIEFING ITEM B.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ON SLIDE FIVE. IT SAID ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION NOT CRITICAL TO CORE SERVICES HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED IN OPERATION AT THE KEITH SOFTBALL CHOIR.

PLEX WILL BE REALIGNED. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT TO DO AT THE KEY SOFTBALL? IS THAT THE. THAT'S THE KEY. SOFTBALL? YEAH, THE KEY SOFTBALL.

SO THAT'S SO KEY. SOFTBALL COMPLEX. SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON IS, IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME FULL TIME STAFF OUT THERE NOW THAT HANDLES A LOT OF THE PROGRAMING, BUT WE STILL HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR COMING OVER AND MAINTAINING.

BUT WE HAVE A RESERVATION OFFICE THAT WE FEEL LIKE COULD COULD MANAGE THE COMPLEX.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE STREAMLINING. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE TYPE OF SEPARATE OPERATIONS WHEN I ALREADY HAVE ONE GROUP WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR HANDLING THE RESERVATION FOR ALL OF MY ATHLETIC VENUES.

SO WHEN WE NORMALLY LOOK AT REALIGNMENT, NORMALLY THE REALIGNMENT MEANS A RIFT.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING AT FRUITVALE RECREATION? YEAH. I DEFER TO CRYSTAL ROSS ON THAT ONE. GOOD AFTERNOON, CRYSTAL ROSS.

IN REGARD TO FRUITVALE RECREATION CENTER, WE ACTUALLY SHUT THAT FACILITY DOWN FOR RECREATION OPERATIONS SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

AND SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT'S MANAGING THAT FOR WICK OFFICE.

THOSE FUNDS THAT ARE REMAINING WERE FUNDS THAT WERE REMAINING YEAR OVER YEAR FOR FRUITVALE.

SO NOW WE'RE BASICALLY JUST KIND OF FORFEITING THOSE AT THIS TIME.

SO THE FRUITVALE RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW WE HAVE A WEAK OFFICE.

IT'S DOING NOTHING ELSE BUT JUST DOING THE WICK.

THAT IS CORRECT. THE PARK DEPARTMENT DOES NOT FACILITATE PROGRAMS INSIDE.

HOWEVER, WE DO MAINTAIN AND ENSURE THAT THE PLAYGROUND AND THINGS ARE STILL ACCESSIBLE.

OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW WE HAVE OUR SOUTHERN STATES.

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HAPPY TO TAKE THAT. OUR BELOVED SOUTHERN STATES, WE'RE GOING TO THINK OF A DIFFERENT MODEL FOR IT.

WE'VE TRIED TO OPERATE THE FACILITY FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.

IT'S NOT OUR CORE SERVICE. AND SO WE WANT TO GIVE IT AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A MANAGEMENT PARTNER, A MANAGING PARTNER WHO IS IN THAT SPACE THAT CAN REALLY TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL EXPERIENCE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

SO WE DO WANT TO CONSIDER EITHER AN RFP FOR THE MANAGEMENT AND OPERATION, OR WE'RE CONSIDERING A LEASE OPPORTUNITY.

AGAIN, I JUST GOT HERE. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS SURROUNDING FRUIT? DALE? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS SURROUNDING THE SOFTBALL? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS SURROUNDING THE SOUTHERN STATES AND GETTING COMMUNITY INPUT? FROM FROM THERE. YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO, BECAUSE THESE ARE REALLY JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE SERVICE.

IT'S JUST US CHANGING THE WAY WE OPERATE. WE'RE STILL GOING TO OFFER THE SAME SERVICE.

THE REASON WHY I ASK BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT SOUTHERN STATES.

I'VE GOTTEN CALLS ABOUT THE PROPERTIES, THOSE OVER THE KEYS, SOFTBALL AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE ASKING, WHY HAVE THEY NOT BEEN INCLUDED IN THOSE MEETINGS? SO, CITY MANAGER, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M A COMMUNITY GUY.

I CAN'T SAY THAT ENOUGH. AND TO MAKE DECISIONS WITHOUT MY COMMUNITY INVOLVED IS SOMETHING THAT THAT I DON'T TOO MUCH SUPPORT.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE THESE ARE TRANSITIONAL AND THINGS THAT YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION ON, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY IN THOSE DECISIONS TO SEE HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT AND, AND MAKE THEM AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. I PROMISE TO BUILD A COMMUNITY WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INVOLVED AND I'M NOT GOING TO I DON'T WANT TO JUST MAKE DECISIONS LIKE THIS WITHOUT THEM BEING INVOLVED. SO I SUPPORT MR. JENKINS AND HE KNOW THAT. YEAH, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I'M NOT CAUGHT BY SURPRISE, AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY DOING TRANSPARENCY, BEING VERY TRANSPARENT, ACCOUNTABLE TO, TO THE CONSTITUENTS, CONSTITUENTS OF DISTRICT FOUR.

AND SO AGAIN, THEY THEY HAVE MADE ME AWARE OF THIS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND HAVE YOU COME OUT AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

MY NEXT MY NEXT QUESTION IS I THINK WE MENTIONED GLENDALE ON HERE.

ON I THINK IT'S SLIDE SEVEN. OH, FOR COMMUNITY POOLS.

THE COMMUNITY POOL. YES. WHAT WE WHAT WHAT'S WHAT WHAT DOES THE BLUE.

I'M, I'M I'M LEARNING YOUR SYSTEM. SO WHAT'S THE BLUE MEAN OVER HERE ON GLENDALE? THAT'S JUST ALTERNATING SHADING. SO THAT DOESN'T INDICATE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE ARE THE COMMUNITY POOLS JUST KIND OF BY YEARS, THEIR ATTENDANCE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY A RANKING HERE OKAY.

OKAY. I WANT A AQUATIC CENTER THERE. I HAVE A POOL THERE.

I HAVE AN AQUATIC CENTER. AND THAT'S JUST OUTDATED.

YES. AND I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS.

SO WE GOT TO GO FORWARD. SO I WANT TO CONTINUE THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN AQUATIC CENTER FOR OUR CHILDREN AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

SO WE HAVE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE CONVERSATION.

I THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU FOR A WHILE, AND SO I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING IN DISTRICT FOUR IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. AND I APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE YOU, YOU, YOU IDENTIFIED A FUNDING SOURCE IF WE WANT TO GO BACK WITH ANOTHER POOL.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU IDENTIFYING HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. MISS BLACKMAN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AGENDA ITEM B EVERYONE.

OKAY. SO I DO HAVE SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

SO THESE LEGACY POOLS. YOU'RE TRANSITIONING THEM INTO SOMETHING ELSE.

MORE SO THAN LIKE. BECAUSE DID YOU MENTION THAT YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK AT MAYBE DOING A SPRAY PARK OR SOMETHING ELSE? SO IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE JUST TRANSITIONING TO SOMETHING ELSE. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YEAH. SO ACTUALLY THE MASTER, THE UPDATED MASTER PLAN HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED YET.

IS IT THE AQUATIC MASTER? YEAH. AQUATICS. YEAH.

AQUATICS. I'M SORRY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD THE OVERALL PARKS ANYWAY.

OKAY, SO THE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN IS BEING UPDATED BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A NEW.

AND THEN BECAUSE LIKE AT RIDGEWOOD, I GOT, I MEAN AT THAT PLACE IS SLAMMED PACK ALL THE TIME, ALL AGES. SO I'M FIGURING LOOKING AT YOUR MAP.

I MEAN, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WANTING SOME TYPE OF A SPRAY PARK, I MEAN.

YEAH. OH, CORRECT. YES. SO THEN IS THAT MONEY ALLOCATED FOR IN FUTURE BOND? OR IN OTHER WORDS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT WHEN IT'S IDENTIFIED? YEAH. SO NO, THERE'S NO FUNDING IDENTIFIED. BUT I KNOW BECAUSE OF THE LAST THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, AS I MENTIONED, LIKE COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, HE'S IDENTIFIED SOME OF HIS FUNDS THAT WE CAN

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F ONCE AGAIN, THIS MASTER PLAN BE COMPLETED HERE.

BUT THE MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO LOOK AT THREE DIFFERENT THINGS.

IT'S GOING TO WE'RE FOUR. IT'S GOING TO LOOK AT IT'S GOING TO LOOK AT THE RADIUS.

THE UPDATE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN. BECAUSE I GOT TO TAKE US BACK TO IT.

WE HAVE THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE BOARD APPROVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT BASICALLY SAID, THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT YOU NEED TO BUILD THESE NEW AQUATICS FACILITIES TO GIVE YOUR PARK PATRONS AND THE CITIZENS ABILITY EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THESE AND I THINK THAT WAS 2012 OR 2015 WHEN THAT ACQUIRES PLAN.

BUT THESE THESE COMMUNITY POOLS HAVE LIVED THEIR LIFE AND THEY'RE NOT SERVING WHAT THE COST, WHAT WHAT PARK PATRONS WANT TODAY WHEN IT COMES TO AQUATICS.

AND SO WE STRATEGICALLY PLACE THESE NINE POOLS ACROSS THE CITY, KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANY SERVICE AREA GAPS, BECAUSE THESE SERVE MORE PEOPLE.

AND SO BUT IT ALSO SAID, OKAY, BUT YOU NEED TO SPRINKLE IN OTHER AQUATIC AMENITIES LIKE SPRAY GROUNDS.

AND IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE WE JUST DID A PROTOTYPE AT OLD EAST DALLAS WORK YARD, BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST BUILT THESE PLAYGROUNDS, THE FIRST ONE OPENING 20 I WANT TO SAY 2008.

WHEN WE FIRST BUILT THEM, OUR FIRST PROTOTYPES WERE THREE OF THEM.

THEY WAS LIKE $400,000. BUT TODAY THESE PROGRAMS RUN ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT 2.5 TO 3.5 MILLION.

YES. AND BUT RECENTLY I CHALLENGED OUR STAFF ALONG WITH OUR CONSULTANTS.

Y'ALL NEED TO COME UP WITH US. ANOTHER PROTOTYPE THAT CAN SERVE THESE PARKS.

AND SO WE WAS ABLE TO BUILD ONE AT EAST DALLAS FOR ABOUT $630,000.

WE'RE ABOUT TO BUILD ONE THAT FOR OUR DEALER PARK, FOR ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT OUR PATRONS ENJOY.

SO THEY RUN ABOUT A MILLION BUCKS. I'M JUST GOING TO ROUND A SPRAY ROUND IS GOING TO RUN YOU ABOUT 2.5 TO 3.5 MILLION.

SPRAY PAD IS GOING TO RUN YOU ABOUT $650,000.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENCE, OKAY. AND I MEAN, I GUESS IT DOES LOOK AT HOW MUCH REAL ESTATE YOU HAVE AND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, WHERE IT IS APPROXIMATE TO SOMETHING ELSE. SO.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH NOW. THAT'S GREAT AT THAT.

OKAY. BECAUSE YES, SOME OF THESE PARKS I ASSUME THAT THE THE PARENTHESES SHOWS THE DATE THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED.

CORRECT. OKAY. YEAH. SOME OF THEM ARE OLDER THAN MY PARENTS, I THINK.

SO AND I WILL SAY THAT THE OLD STYLE SWIMMING POOLS HAVE KIND OF GONE AWAY FROM WHAT THE CONSUMER WANTS.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT THEY'RE STILL BEING USED.

JUST NOT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER ONES. OKAY.

SO NOW GOING TO THE PART ABOUT REVENUE REDUCTION, WHAT ARE WE DOING.

AND I THINK WE HAD A MEMO. WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT RECEIVING REVENUE.

AND I KNOW THAT I YOU KNOW LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT IT.

ABOUT CONTRACTS, RIGHT? YEAH. THREW THAT IN THERE.

SO, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A, IT'S PARITY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE A POOR KIM, YOU ASK HER, SHE SAYS THERE'S NO MORE COINS IN THE ROBE.

OKAY. AND SO TELL ME WHAT I KNOW. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE FUTURE PLAN IS? BECAUSE I THINK WE GOT A MEMO SAYING WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE ENGAGING A FIRM AND WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT NAMING RIGHTS.

I THINK YOU LOW BALLED A FEW THINGS, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I DO IN WHAT YOUR FUTURE PLANS ARE, BECAUSE PARKS IS THE PLACE TO LOOK FOR REVENUE.

PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO I MEAN, THEY WILL THEY WILL PAY FOR THE MILLION DOLLARS FOR A SPRAY PAD OR A SPRAY PARK, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY TO PAVE, YOU KNOW, ABRAMS ROAD.

SO EXPLAIN WHAT YOUR VISION IS ON THAT. YES. AND I'M GONNA ASK RYAN O'CONNOR, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, WHO HANDLED MY PARTNERSHIPS, TO JOIN US AT THE TABLE.

BUT JUST AT THE HIGH LEVEL REAL QUICK. YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

WE WE PLAN ON PUTTING OUT A AN RFP WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT HIRING A CONSULTANT TO, TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE CREATE A SUSTAINABLE PARK SYSTEM FINANCIALLY. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A SERIES OF BRIEFING THAT WILL COME TO THE PARK BOARD AND TO THE COUNCIL, THE COMMITTEES, ONCE THEY'RE SET BACK UP, THAT YOU WILL SEE THESE BRIEFINGS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN BRING IN NONTRADITIONAL REVENUES TO OUR PARK SYSTEM,

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NO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY SUBTLE STUFF THAT OTHER PARK SYSTEMS ARE ALREADY DOING ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT IS HELPING TO ALLEVIATE THE GENERAL FUND BY MAKING THEIR PARK SYSTEM MORE SELF-SERVICE BACK INTO YOUR PARK SYSTEM.

THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME AND LOOK IN MISS TALBOT'S ROBE FOR MORE COINS.

SO ANYWAY. OKAY, RYAN, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

RYAN O'CONNOR, DALLAS PARK SYSTEM. SO THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO WHAT DIRECTOR JENKINS JUST SAID, THAT I FULLY AGREE WITH, AND WE ARE INITIATING THAT EFFORT TO REALLY LOOK AT WAYS TO MONETIZE THE PARK SYSTEM THAT HAVEN'T BEEN LOOKED AT BEFORE.

A PART OF THAT IS LOOKING AT OLD CONTRACTS. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONTRACTS IN THIS PARK SYSTEM THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE MANY YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE AT A AT A POINT IN OUR EVOLUTION AS A CITY AND AS A PARK SYSTEM THAT IT'S TIME TO REVISIT SOME OF THOSE.

AND SO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER EFFORT AMONGST THIS LARGER ALTERNATIVE REVENUE STRATEGY THAT WILL BE TAKING A HARD LOOK AT.

AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT POPULAR BUT IT'S NECESSARY.

AND AND I GUESS IT'S NOT WHO ASKS THE QUESTION, IT'S THAT THE QUESTIONS BEING ASKED.

AND I AM GLAD THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO DO THAT, BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE THE ONES THAT DO HAVE A LOT OF PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S PARITY ACROSS BETWEEN THE, THE THE GROUP THAT'S COMING IN THE CITY.

IT'S NOT THAT WE WANT TO GET IT ALL FOR FREE, BUT WE CAN'T PAY FOR ALL OF IT.

AND AND SO THOSE OLD CONTRACTS ARE, ARE NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS BENEFICIAL TO US.

THEY MAY HAVE BEEN BACK THEN, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE NOW.

AND SO I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND NO MORE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.

I AGREE, AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT HARD CORE AUDITS ON A YEARLY MAYBE EVEN TWICE, YOU KNOW, EVERY 2 TO 3 YEARS. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR. ROFF. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM B.

THANK YOU. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE AQUATIC MASTER PLAN.

WHAT IS YOUR PROJECTION ON THAT AS FAR AS GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF? ROUGHLY, SIR. I BELIEVE WE'RE PROBABLY THREE, THREE MONTHS OUT.

THREE. THREE. FOUR MONTHS. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITHIN A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD.

YES, SIR. OKAY. AND IN THE THE PARK THE THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT BUDGET DOES THAT IS WAS DID THOSE NUMBERS INCLUDE THE THE FAIR PARK BUDGET THAT WAS IN THE THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDE.

IN THE PARK AND RECREATION BUDGET. NO. THE THE $120,000,124 MILLION THAT WOULD HAVE FAIR PARK IN THERE. YEAH, THAT'S IN THAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE FAIR PARK FUNDS THAT WE WERE RECENTLY ALLOTTED OF THE 2.5 MILLION ALSO, OR THE 118 FOR THE TOP, THE 5.9 MILLION. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? DID YOU ASK ME? WELL, I WAS LOOKING AT THE THE THE BIG THE THE BIG ONE, THE $124 MILLION BUDGET.

THAT WOULD ONLY INCLUDE A PORTION OF FAIR PARK.

FAIR PARK WOULD BE PLACED IN A SEPARATE FUND.

SO THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDING WOULD GO TO A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND.

I'M SORRY. IT'S MY MY MY QUESTION WASN'T CLEAR.

THE THE THE SLIDE WHERE YOU HAD THE FAIR PARK BUDGET.

OKAY. FAIR PARK. BUT IS THAT INCLUDED IN THAT GENERAL BUDGET? PARKS AND RECREATION BUDGET? ONLY A PORTION OF IT.

ONLY A PORTION IS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL FUND.

SO THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE FUNDING SOURCES. THERE'S TWO SEPARATE BUCKETS.

SO THE SO THERE IS A NEW FUND THAT WILL BE SET UP FOR FAIR PARK.

AND THESE FUNDS WILL BE TRANSFERRED FROM THE OPERATING FUND INTO THE FAIR PARK FUND.

OKAY. AND THAT'S THE 5.9 BILLION, 1 MILLION, 5.5 MILLION.

WOULD IT BE TRANSFERRED? SO THOSE ARE ALREADY ALLOCATED OVER HERE. THEY'RE JUST MOVING THEM INTO THIS NEW.

THEY WERE CREATED THIS NEW BUCKET. SO IN THE NEW BUCKET RIGHT.

THE NEW SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. OKAY. SO THEY WILL BE REMOVED FROM OPERATING.

IS THERE'S NONE OF THE. THIS BUDGET DOESN'T PROPOSE ANY MAJOR DEFERRED MAINTENANCE CAPITAL.

MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FACILITIES AT FAIR PARK OR TO ARBORETUM OR TO ZOO OR ANYTHING ELSE.

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IT'S LISTED ON THE CAPITAL MAJOR MAINTENANCE LINE. IS THAT $2.5 MILLION? THAT WOULD BE TWO. NO, THAT WOULD BE THE 2.5 AND 26, 27 AND 1.7 BASED IN 25, 26.

YEAH. SO THAT'S AN ANNUAL THAT'S AN ANNUAL ALLOCATION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO ROUGHLY $4 MILLION, GIVE OR TAKE. SO FIRST TWO YEARS.

BUT IS THAT IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S LIGHT TO ME WITH ALL THE BUILDINGS THAT YOU HAVE, WITH ALL THE THE AGE ON THOSE BUILDINGS, WITHOUT, WITH ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S THERE.

IS THAT IS THAT ENOUGH TO SORT OF GET YOU PAST THE PAST, OVER, OVER ANY KIND OF A OF A HURDLE? WELL, LET ME CLARIFY, BECAUSE I KNOW I PROBABLY SENT THE COUNCIL SOME MEMOS OR ONCE AGAIN.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ME TALKING ABOUT IT IN THE MEDIA, BUT ABOUT ALL THE WHAT I, WHAT I CALL THE FAIR PART THAT WAS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, THAT HAS TURNED INTO MAJOR MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS OPERATOR, I FELT LIKE DID NOT PERFORM PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, TAKING CARE OF THE HVAC SYSTEMS, TAKING CARE OF THE PLUMBING, I CAN NAME IT.

THAT LED TO NOW CAPITAL REPAIRS. BUT WHAT YOU ALL APPROVED LAST WEEK WITH THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE Y'ALL APPROVED $4 MILLION.

THAT'S GOING TO HELP US GET OUT OF THAT HOLE.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE AS MUCH MONEY GOING INTO FOUR YEARS NOW.

BUT BUT I'M HOPING AS WE CONTINUE TO MONETIZE FAIR PARK AND GENERATE MORE REVENUES AND PLUS AFTER WE DO HAVE THE BRAMMER FUNDS THAT BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE USED FOR FIVE BUILDINGS OUT THERE, NOT THE OTHER BUILDINGS AND ALL THE OTHER MAJOR NEEDS.

BUT BETWEEN OUR ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WE GET, IT'S GOING TO HELP US TO AT LEAST STABILIZE FAIR PARK AT THIS POINT AND ALLOW OUR REVENUES TO CATCH UP.

AND THEN AS WE CONTINUE TO PAY OFF AND THEN WE WE TOOK OUT SOME REVENUE BONDS AND, AND WE PAY OFF THOSE EVERY TEN YEARS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO START USING BETWEEN THE REVENUE BONDS, THE BRAMMER MONEY AND, AND THE NEW REVENUES TO HELP ADDRESS A LOT OF THIS CAPITAL AND DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUES, AND SOME IN THE OPERATORS OF SOME OF THE OTHER VENUES, WHETHER IT BE THE MUSIC HALL OR THE OR THE ARBORETUM OR THE ZOO. THOSE ARE SOMEWHAT REVENUE NEUTRAL BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE BRINGING IN AND THEN THEY'RE PAYING THE EXPENSES FOR THE MOST PART.

YEAH. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, LIKE ARBORETUM, THEIR BUDGET I WANT TO SAY IS 28 MILLION OR $27 MILLION.

THE CITY WE OUR AVERAGE FUNDING WE GIVE THEM IS ABOUT $400,000.

SO YOU CAN SEE WE AND SO ARE THOSE NUMBERS ARE NET COST INCLUDED IN YOUR THAT BIGGER THAT BIGGER BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE HERE.

THE WELL THEY'RE OPERATING BUDGET IS NOT INCLUDED ONLY WHEN WE SUPPLEMENT THEM AS EITHER SUPPLEMENT OR OR RECEIPTS.

YES. AND AS PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN FOR JUST THE AQUATIC CENTER, I SENSE THAT THERE'S ALSO A MASTER PLAN FOR THE PARKS GENERALLY. AND AND IS THAT IN THE WORKS ALSO? YEAH. SO WE EVERY ABOUT EVERY TEN YEARS WE UPDATE OUR OUR MASTER PLANS FOR THE PARK SYSTEM.

2002. WE HAD WHAT WE CALL THE RENAISSANCE PLAN THAT LED US TO ALL THESE NEW PARTNERSHIPS.

AND IT PAID DIVIDENDS. AND THEN IN 2015, WE HAD MORE THAT WAS FOCUSED MORE ON THE RECREATION SIDE, AND THEY TOLD US HOW TO TO GET MORE HOW TO REALLY PROGRAM THE REC CENTERS IN A BETTER WAY.

AND IT LOOKED AT THE REST OF THE PARK SYSTEM AS WELL.

THIS TIME WE WANT THE NEXT MASTER PLAN, NOT ONLY TO INCLUDE WHERE OUR PARK SYSTEM SHOULD BE OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, BUT WE WANT A BIG EMPHASIS ON HOW DO WE CREATE A MORE FINANCIAL, SUSTAINABLE PARK SYSTEM, BECAUSE AND WE'LL WILL BE BRINGING THIS BRIEFING TO THE BOARD, BUT I MEAN TO YOU ALL AS WELL.

BUT WE JUST BRIEFED A BRIEFING LAST WEEK THAT SHOWED YOU WHAT THE GROWTH OF THE PARK SYSTEM BECAUSE DALLAS IS GROWING AND THAT THE RATE THAT WE RECEIVE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND, EVEN THOUGH WE LOOK FOR EFFICIENCIES EVERY YEAR, WE KEEP TRYING TO CUT EXPENSES.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE DEMAND ON THE PARK SYSTEM AND THE GROWTH, THEN WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST A 25 OR $30 MILLION DIFFERENCE IN THE NEXT 7 TO 8 YEARS. AND WE KNOW WE CAN'T BE DEPENDENT ON THE GENERAL FUND FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S GOING TO GUIDE US TO GET TO THAT POINT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

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THEY'RE AN AMENITY TO THE CITIZENS. IT HELPS VALUE.

IT HELPS ATTRACT PEOPLE HERE. IT IT'S A NEEDED SITUATION.

BUT THEY DO HAVE TO BE PAID FOR. THEY DO HAVE TO BE COST EFFECTIVE.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S FUTURE GROWTH IN THOSE AREAS, I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT THE PLANS AND TRYING TO, IF NECESSARY MANAGE THE FUTURE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS IN A JUDICIOUS WAY SO THAT WE CAN STILL KEEP THOSE THINGS ON THE BOOKS, BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR BUDGET SORT OF REASONABLE.

THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. MISS CADENA, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO IN 2017 DISTRICT SIX WAS ABLE TO DIVERSIFY SOME OF THEIR AQUATICS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO ADD SPLASH GROUNDS IN A SWIMMING POOL AS WELL.

MY QUESTION IS, IN THE 2024 BOND, WE ADDED A COMMUNITY POOL AT JC ZARAGOZA.

SO WILL THERE BE. WILL IT BE TIMED WHEN THAT POOL IS PERHAPS DECOMMISSIONED TO WHEN THE NEW POOL IS IS BUILT? YES, THAT WOULD BE THE. THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION.

WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE SOMETHING OUT OF SERVICE WITHOUT SOMETHING COMING ONLINE SHORTLY THEREAFTER.

THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. MR. BLAIR, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. MAYOR. YOU IN ON THAT SAME LINE? I WAS NOTICING ON PAGE SIX THAT YOU HAD THE POOLS OF THEIR AGE.

WERE THESE THE POOLS THAT YOU WERE CONSIDERING DECOMMISSIONING AND PUTTING IN SOMETHING DIFFERENT? THE SPLASH PAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE AS TO WHEN THAT THOUGHT WOULD GO INTO BECOME A REALITY? YEAH. SO AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE KIND OF LIKE ONE AT A TIME, TAKING A POOL OUT OF COMMISSION, ESPECIALLY IF THE ONE'S ALREADY SAID TO HAVE A REPLACEMENT.

AND WE ALSO, ONCE AGAIN, ONCE WE GET THE MASTER PLAN BACK, YOU KNOW, I'M I WOULD LIKE TO STRATEGICALLY OVER THE NEXT 2 TO 3 YEARS START DECOMMISSIONING 2 TO 3 POOLS PER YEAR BECAUSE I REALLY.

YOU KNOW WHAT? BASED ON THE EXPERTS, WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER A LOT OF LIFE IN THESE OLD POOLS.

SO IF WE CAN SYSTEMATICALLY START DECOMMISSIONING 2 TO 3 POOLS PER YEAR, AND ONCE WE DECOMMISSION AND WE NEED TO REMOVE THEM, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME. AND SO AND THEN WE HAVE TO DESIGN WHATEVER'S GOING TO GO BACK IN THIS PLACE.

SO YES. SO OUR PLAN IS 2 TO 3 POOLS PER YEAR OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

EXCUSE ME, CAN I HAVE MY TIME BACK? MY THE CLOCK DIDN'T STOP.

OKAY. ON MY TIME. THEN LET ME ALSO ASK THE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ROSE BOWL AND COMPARING THE ROSE BOWL TO FAIR PARK.

ARE YOU ARE YOU COMPARING THE SAME USES, OR YOU COMPARING HOW MUCH MONEY IT MAKES PER YEAR.

YEAH, SO YES, I AM WHEN IT COMES TO THE COTTON BOWL AND YOU COMPARE THE ROSE BOWL AND WE COMPARE THE USAGE WE HAVE UNDER USAGE, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM. THAT'S A HUGE PROBLEM WHICH TELLS US THAT WE GOTTA DO A BETTER JOB.

I MEAN, I KNOW OVER THE LAST 6 OR 7 YEARS WE THOUGHT WE HAD AN OPERATOR WHO SAID THEY HAD THAT EXPERTISE.

THEY WOULD BRING IN ALL THIS ACTIVITIES. THEY DIDN'T MATERIALIZE.

AND THAT'S UPON US TO MAKE SURE, AS Y'ALL HEARD ME SAY, FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION THIS TIME.

AND WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TO GET THE EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES IN THAT COTTON BOWL FAIR PARK IN GENERAL.

BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE THE COTTON BOWL IS THE ENGINE THAT SHOULD HELP THROW OFF REVENUES TO SUPPORT THE REST OF THE PARK.

AND WE WENT AND SAW THE ROSE BOWL. WE KNOW THAT'S POSSIBLE.

AND I MEAN, WHEN I SAY THESE FACILITIES, FACILITIES THERE ARE IDENTICAL.

THEY'RE OLD. BUT THEY HAVE FIGURED OUT A WAY HOW TO BRING MORE EVENTS AND TO MONETIZE. WHEN I SAY MONETIZE, EVERY SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITY THEY HAD, EVERY NAMING OPPORTUNITY THEY HAD IN THE ROSE BOWL.

I CAN DO NOTHING BUT BRAG ON THEM. AND AND AS RYAN.

NO, I SAID, WE'VE BEEN CUTTING OURSELVES SHORT.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE LEAVING A LOT OF MONEY ON THE TABLE.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND AND LEAVING THE MONEY ON THE TABLE.

YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT AFFORDING YOURSELF THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO BALANCE WHAT YOU GET OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND

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I APPRECIATE THAT. SO DO YOU HAVE AN IDEAL OR SOME TYPE OF PLAN TO BE ABLE TO BRING UP THE YOUTH AT FAIR PARK, SO THAT IT LOOKS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEING DONE AT THE ROOSEVELT? DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE? WELL, AS AS DIRECTOR JENKINS MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO, IT'S REALLY KIND OF THE THE HYBRID MODEL, THE THREE LEGGED SCHOOL MODEL, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE ALL UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE PARK SYSTEM, OF COURSE, BUT UTILIZING THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT, WHICH IS GROUNDS MAINTENANCE AND BUILDINGS, PARTNERING WITH, WITH PRIVATE COMPANIES WHO HAVE EXPERTISE IN SALES AND MARKETING AND BOOKING AND EVENT EXECUTION.

AND THEN THE THE LAST LEG OF THE STOOL, OF COURSE, IS THE IT'S THE FOUNDATION THAT WOULD BE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PHILANTHROPY ARM THAT WOULD BE RAISING CAPITAL DOLLARS TO HELP SUPPORT THE BUILDINGS OUT THERE.

SO IN OUR OPINION, THAT'S THE MODEL THAT. THAT WILL LIKELY TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

AND IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THE MODEL THAT THE ROSE BOWL HAS.

AND THEY'VE MADE INCREDIBLE PROGRESS. AS DIRECTOR JENKINS MENTIONED THAT THE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS ARE REALLY STUNNING.

OF COURSE, THERE'S DIFFERENCES IN WEATHER AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THE AGE OF THE BUILDING, THE SETTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING THEMSELVES, THE HISTORICAL USAGE FOR FOOTBALL GAMES, I MEAN, YOU CAN GO ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT THE SIMILARITIES TO THE BUILDING AND THE THING THAT THAT PERHAPS SURPRISED ME THE MOST WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO INTO THE COTTON BOWL, I KIND OF SAY TO MYSELF, OH, BOY, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SOME WORK TO DO HERE. BUT I SAID THE SAME EXACT THING WHEN I WENT INTO THE ROSE BOWL. SO MUCH SO THAT I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, THE COTTON BOWL MIGHT ACTUALLY BE IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER OF A SPOT.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT OUR ABILITY TO REALLY MONETIZE THE COTTON BOWL IN A WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT THE ENTIRE CAMPUS OF FAIR PARK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE COTTON BOWL IS THE KIND OF LITERAL AND METAPHORICAL MIDDLE OF OF EVERYTHING.

IT SITS RIGHT IN THE HEART OF CAMPUS. IT'S THE LARGEST BUILDING. IT'S THE BUILDING THAT WE HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO MONETIZE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ENTIRE OF THE ENTIRE PARK.

I AM QUITE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THE THE EXTRA USES AT THE ROSE BOWL.

IT'S NICE. ROSE BOWL. IT'S VERY WELL MAINTAINED.

I'VE BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES FROM THE TIME I WAS A KID UNTIL I LEFT.

BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW YOU BRING THAT INTO TO BEING.

ONE OTHER THING. I THINK I THINK I'M, I'M JUST ABOUT DONE WHEN GOING BACK TO THE SPLASH PADS.

I KNOW WE USE TOMMY ALLEN, AND I KNOW, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THAT YOU SENT ON PAGE 14 THAT THERE'S A 12 MINUTE DISTANT DRIVE DISTANCE TO THE NEAREST BATH SPLASH PAD.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THAT IS? SO. I TURN OFF.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO YOU'RE ASKING THE DISTANCE FROM TOMMY ALLEN TO THE.

IT'S ACTUALLY TO THE NEAREST FAMILY AQUATIC CENTER.

AND SO THE CLOSEST AQUATICS FACILITY IS THE COVE AT CRAWFORD.

SO IT'S IN IT'S RIGHT OFF OF 175. YES. BUT AS YOU AS YOU KNOW, MISS COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR SENIOR HILLS TO BUILD A NEW POOL.

CORRECT. THAT'LL PUT THAT IN CLOSER PROXIMITY.

SO WHEN DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WILL WILL HAPPEN IN SINGING HILLS.

ALTHOUGH YOU'RE SAYING 12 MINUTES TO 175. THAT DEPENDS ON A LOT OF THINGS.

SO I'M SORRY I MISSED THAT. I WAS TRYING TO GET YOU AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

I SAID, WELL, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S 12 MINUTES TO 175 THE ONE.

AND THAT 12 MINUTES COULD BE A LOT OF THINGS.

AND ESPECIALLY IT MAY BE IT MAY BE HOURS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CAR.

SO IT'S RELATIVE. SO WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT THAT THIS THAT ANY THE SINGING HILLS LOCATION IS GOING TO BE COMPLETED.

YEAH, I THINK RIGHT. RIGHT. YOU SAID THE THE DESIGN WILL GET THE FUNDING THIS YEAR.

RIGHT. CORRECT. WE CURRENTLY HAVE DESIGN FUNDING FOR SINGING HILLS NOW.

WE WILL NOT HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION FUNDS UNTIL FISCAL YEAR 2728.

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I MEAN, TO THE BOARD TO TOMORROW AT PARK BOARD.

AND THEN THEIR RECOMMENDATION, THEY WILL THAT WILL BE PRESENTED FOR YOU ALL.

THESE ARE THE TWO POOLS THEY'RE RECOMMENDING FOR THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THIS WOULD GIVE US TIME. WELL, THE REPORT WE'RE GOING TO PRODUCE IS GOING TO BE BASED ON THOSE FOUR CRITERIAS.

AND THEY WOULD SET THOSE TWO POOLS FOR CONSIDERATION FOR YOU ALL'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT WOULD ALSO LIST THEM IN PRIORITY OVER THIS NEXT THREE YEARS, WHICH ONE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THREE POOLS EVERY YEAR TO DECOMMISSION.

SO WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TIME TO PLAN. JUST LIKE COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON RICHARDSON SAYS.

I DO NEED TO HAVE TIME TO TO SOCIALIZE THIS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

TELL THEM WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES WILL BE. TELL THEM THE TIMELINES FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAPPEN.

I WOULD NOT LIKE TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT THEY'D HAVE TO GO TO 175, BECAUSE THAT'S AN UNATTAINABLE, UNATTAINABLE LOCATION FOR THEM TO RECEIVE. TO REACH FOR THEM TO GET TO, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S NO TRANSPORTATION FOR THEM TO GET THERE.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. MAYOR PRO TEM REYNOLDS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND CONGRATULATIONS ON ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL SUMMER.

OBVIOUSLY, OUR FAMILIES RELY ON OUR PARK SYSTEMS HEAVILY, ESPECIALLY DURING THE SUMMER.

FIRST QUESTION IS, HAS THE PARK BOARD IDENTIFIED WHICH POOLS WOULD POTENTIALLY BE DECOMMISSIONED IN THIS BUDGET UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR? NO. THEY WILL. THEY WILL MAKE THAT DECISION TOMORROW.

AND DO WE KNOW HOW MANY IN THE. WOULD IT BE IN THE FIRST ROUND? TWO. TWO. OKAY. LOOK I WAS AROUND DURING THE 2014 2015 AQUATIC MASTER PLAN.

AND FIRST QUESTION IS, HAVE WE COMPLETED AND IMPLEMENTED THAT MASTER PLAN? YES. I THINK THE ONLY ONE THERE WAS, I WANT TO SAY SINKING HILLS WAS THE.

IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED IN THAT MASTER PLAN.

AND WHAT WAS THE COST FOR THE AQUATIC MASTER PLAN? TOTAL. I DON'T KNOW, 30 MILLION. 000, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE THE FUNDING WE USED, I MEAN, THAT WE SPENT IT WAS A TOTAL OF $75 MILLION THAT WE HAVE INVESTED IN OUR POOL SINCE THE APPROVAL OF THAT AQUATIC MASTER PLAN.

AND WHAT WERE THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR? OR. YEAH, IT WAS THE SALE OF LGB ROBINSON AND THEN THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM.

SO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ALL I WANT TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF PUBLIC GREEN SPACES, TRAILS THEY'RE CRITICAL.

AND WE'VE COME A LONG WAY TO TO THE POINT THAT WE ARE TODAY.

AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS SUPPORTED THE PARK DEPARTMENT WITH THIS.

DURING THAT MASTER PLAN, WE DID HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW WE WOULD DECOMMISSION THE LEGACY POOLS.

AND WE DID A LOT OF DATA, A LOT OF RESEARCH. AND THE TIME THAT FAMILIES SPEND AT THESE TRADITIONAL POOLS ARE ABOUT 30 MINUTES BECAUSE THERE'S SO VERY LITTLE TO DO. OUR NEW AQUATIC CENTERS HAVE A CLIMBING WALL, HAVE DIVING BOARDS, HAVE LAZY RIVERS PICNIC AREAS.

AND THE TIME SPENT THERE IS UPWARDS OF 2 TO 3 HOURS.

AND SO I THINK WE'RE DEFINITELY CONTINUING THE RIGHT TRACK.

AND SO SOMETHING THAT WE SAW IN IN MY COUNCIL DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY OVER AT GROWLER, WE KNEW THAT THAT POOL WOULD ONE DAY BE DECOMMISSIONED.

SO WE INVESTED BOND DOLLARS TO HAVE A SPRAY PARK RIGHT NEXT TO THAT POOL.

AND MOST RECENTLY, I WANT TO THANK OUR MAYOR FOR JOINING US IN GETTING ARPA DOLLARS TO TRY THESE NEW SCALED DOWN SPLASH PADS, WHICH HAVE BEEN A BIG HIT. AND SO I DEFINITELY SUPPORT YOU GUYS IN THAT.

I MIGHT EVEN SAY WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE TAKING A BIGGER BITE AT THAT APPLE AND HAVING MORE THAN JUST TWO OF THOSE LEGACY POOLS INCLUDED IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR. I DO HAVE I WANT SOME CLARITY. FIRST ON REDUCING.

I'M SORRY. WHEN IT COMES TO MOWING OF PARK SITES, IS THERE A REDUCTION IN THERE IN MOWING CYCLES? YEAH. SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS IN THAT, IN THAT, IN THAT ADJUSTMENT TO THAT BUDGET THERE.

ONE IS, YOU KNOW, WELL, OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE LEARNED THAT WE STILL HAVE CONTRACTORS.

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AND SO WE'RE LIKE, NO, WE NEED TO GO TO MORE SPOT MORE.

AND THEN A LOT OF THAT, THAT WHAT YOU SEE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING THAT ADJUSTMENT TO MAINTENANCE IS TWO THINGS THAT DRIVES A LOT OF THAT COST.

WHERE I'M TALKING ABOUT 500, I THINK IT'S IS IT 600 OR 500 ADJUSTMENT.

ONE IS THE WE DO A LOT OF VEGETATION REMOVAL, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THE VEGETATION REMOVAL WHERE WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH DPD AND THEY SAY, HEY, WE NEED YOU ALL TO REMOVE THIS VEGETATION BECAUSE THIS CREATES A SAFETY ISSUE.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. BUT WHAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO IS WEAR ESTHETICALLY.

WE'RE JUST REMOVING VEGETATION THAT DOESN'T IMPACT US STILL BEING ABLE TO DELIVER OUR COURSE SERVICE, BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO GO NOT TO ACCEPT ESTHETICALLY.

WE'RE JUST NOT REMOVING THAT VEGETATION UNLESS IT'S A SECURITY ISSUE.

THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF AND WE LOVE IT.

MAKE NO MISTAKE. BUT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, RIBBON CUTTINGS, GROUNDBREAKING.

AND WE HAVE TO REDEPLOY OUR STAFF ON THE WEEKENDS.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF LOGISTICS AND A LOT OF TIME.

THEY'RE PUT ON OVERTIME AND WE CAN SAVE FUNDING ALONG WITHOUT IMPACTING CORE SERVICES BY JUST ELIMINATING THOSE WEEKEND GROUNDBREAKING AND RIBBON CUTS.

SO, DIRECTOR JENKINS, I JUST WANT TO GET CLARITY. OUR PARKS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, OUR OR COMMUNITY PARKS THAT ARE WHERE FOLKS CAN GO ON AND THROW A FOOTBALL PLACE. GAME OF SOCCER.

THOSE PARKS WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY THE MOWING CYCLES.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, I DO UNDERSTAND THE OVERTIME.

AND US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING MORE MINDFUL OF WHEN WE HAVE THOSE RIBBON CUTTINGS AND WHEN WE HAVE THOSE DEDICATION.

SO SO THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. AND SO WHEN IT COMES TO FAIR PARK IN PARTICULAR, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU DO NOT ANTICIPATE HAVING AN RFP DURING THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

IF IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING DID HAPPEN, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THOSE TO THAT BUDGET? WOULD IT AUTOMATICALLY GO TO A THIRD PARTY OR WOULD IT BE RETAINED WITHIN THE PARK DEPARTMENT? ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, I JUST YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU ALL.

WELL, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THIS TIME THAT ALL THE MONEY.

IF WE WERE TO GO TO A THIRD PARTY AGAIN. NO WAY.

NO. HOW WOULD I RECOMMEND US NOT HOLDING BACK OR RESERVE IN THE MILLIONS? OKAY. YOU KNOW, UNLIKE LAST TIME, ALL THE MONEY WENT AWAY, AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY RESERVE MONEY TO DEAL WITH ISSUES IN THIS CASE FOR ME TO DEAL WITH GETTING STARTED, GETTING RESTARTING FAIR PARK.

SO. NO. YES. THE MONEY PART OF THE FUNDS WILL BE RECOMMENDED.

WE WERE TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY, AND PART OF THE FUNDS WOULD MOVE OVER WITH THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR.

OKAY. AND THE REASON FOR THIS ENHANCEMENT IS THAT THE CITY IS NOW TAKING OVER FAIR PARK.

SO IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND A BUDGET LINE FOR OLD CITY PARK SINCE WE HAVE TAKEN OVER THAT PARK AS WELL.

COMPLETELY. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN THE BUDGET FOR OLD CITY PARK? ALL RIGHT. SO OLD CITY PARK. YOU KNOW, WE WE THE BUDGET WAS $750,000 THIS PAST YEAR FOR OLD CITY PARK.

WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE IN THIS CASE.

YOU KNOW, WE AGREED WE WANT THAT TO BE MORE OF AN ENTERPRISE TO TRY TO MAKE THAT BUDGET.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT BUDGET THIS YEAR.

THE 750. AND SO SO WE WE WE ARE GOING TO BE ADJUSTING THE EXPENSES OUT THERE, BUT WE ARE ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE LOOKED AT ANOTHER VENUE, THIS VERY SIMILAR OLD CITY PARK. AND I'M GOING TO BE CHALLENGING THAT STAFF THAT IF THEY CAN DO THIS, IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF VENUE.

AND AND THERE'S A NOTE ABOUT MONETIZING. IT'S JUST ABOUT PROGRAMING.

AND I'M CHALLENGING MY STAFF THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET THEIR BUDGET THIS YEAR.

YEAH. AND ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO COMMEND YOUR TEAM ON IS THE AMOUNT OF PROGRAMING THAT HAS HAPPENED AT OLD CITY PARK.

WE HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON ALMOST EVERY OTHER WEEKEND. SO SO THANK YOU.

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AND SO WHAT IS THE CITY DOING TO LEVERAGE THE DOLLARS THAT SOME OF THESE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY HAVE PUT FORWARD THE SAME WAY THAT WE'RE DOING AT FERRY PORT? YEAH, I KNOW THAT, AS YOU MENTIONED, SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE COMMITTED BOND FUNDS AND OTHER FUNDS FOR OLD CITY PARK. IT'S IT'S SET UP AS AN ENTERPRISE, OLD CITY PARK.

AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HIT OUR GOAL.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP STRIVING TO DO IT. THANK YOU.

AND SO AGAIN, AS WE ARE MODERNIZING AND LOOKING AT OUR POOLS, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO TRUST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING DATA TO US.

AND DOING THIS IN AN EQUITABLE MANNER. WE WE DID THOSE FOR THOSE THREE REGIONAL POOLS ACROSS THE CITY.

AND WE'RE VERY INTENTIONAL IN THE WAY WE DECIDED WHERE THOSE GOING TO GO.

SO JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

MISTER GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR. I JUST HAVE ONE.

REALLY A QUICK QUESTION TO. AND I REALLY WANT TO HELP UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE I CAN APPRECIATE WHERE YOU'RE GOING IN TERMS OF HOW CAN WE START MONETIZING SOME OF THESE SPACES AND REALLY ACTIVATING THEM FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE? ON SLIDE 16, I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, THIS QUESTION IS HOW CAN I HELP? BUT IT'S IT'S REDUCE PARTNER STIPENDS AND MANAGEMENT FEES AND.

CEDAR RIDGE NATURE PRESERVE WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT WAS LISTED.

ONE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR A CEDAR HILL NATURE PRESERVE? AND THEN WITH THE TYPE OF ACTIVITY AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON AND I HEAR IT AND ALL OF I CAN HEAR MY CONSTITUENTS TALKING ABOUT IT NOW, THE AMOUNT OF ACTIVITY, PARKING AND EVERYTHING ON A SATURDAY MORNING.

SO THERE'S ALL THAT ACTIVITY. ONE WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HAD IN TERMS OF HOW CAN WE CAPITALIZE ON THAT, ON THAT, ON THAT TRAFFIC FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ALL OF THAT? BUT ALSO IF THAT GOES AWAY, WHAT KIND OF WHAT OTHER OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO HELP SUBSIDIZE SOME OF THAT THAT'S LOST? SO YEAH. SO CEDAR HILL, I MEAN, CEDAR RIDGE, CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE IS IS IS A SUCCESS STORY, BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER THE HISTORY WHEN IT USED TO BE BIRD WATCHING WHO USED TO MANAGE A NONPROFIT FOR US NORTHERN FOUNDATION.

WHEN WE TERMINATE THAT CONTRACT, WE WAS FORTUNATE TO GET AUDUBON DALLAS TO STEP UP.

AND SO WE WENT FROM AN OPERATION THAT LITERALLY MAY HAVE BROUGHT IN 10,000 PEOPLE A YEAR USING CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE TO.

NOW, WHAT IS IT, 400,000 PEOPLE EVERY YEAR IS USING CEDAR RIDGE RESERVE, RIGHT? AND SO THE NUMBERS YOU SAW IN THE PRESENTATION OF JUST SHOWING YOU THOSE WERE LAST YEAR BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS.

SO THEY'RE NOT FACING ANY TYPE OF BUDGET ADJUSTMENT FOR THIS YEAR.

SORRY. OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. BUT BUT TO THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT THOUGH, GOING WHERE YOU'RE GOING, I DO WANT TO HAVE CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS ON HOW WE CAN CONTINUE.

YEAH. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. I MEAN, BECAUSE WE JUST HADN'T HAD A CHANCE THAT WE'RE GOING AROUND EVERY PART OF OUR SYSTEM AND LOOKING AT WHERE WE CAN DO THINGS BETTER AND WHERE CAN WE DO THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND WHERE CAN WE STICK TO OUR CORE SERVICE, WHAT WE DO WELL, BUT BUT PARTNERING WITH OTHER PEOPLE TO DELIVER THOSE NON-CORE SERVICES IN OUR SYSTEM.

YES, I'D LOVE TO CONTINUE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. HI. MY FIRST TWO QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO REALLY FOCUS ON CAPITAL VERSUS OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.

AND THE CAPITAL OUTLAY LOOKS LIKE EXPENSES. LOOKS LIKE IT'S RISING JUST MODESTLY.

BUT IS IT SUFFICIENT TO REALLY ACCOUNT FOR THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE FOR THE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT THAT'S NEEDED? IS IT ADEQUATE ENOUGH? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE ALLOCATED.

AND IN THIS CASE, I, I IT'S IT'S ADEQUATE. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL KNOW IF I COME BEFORE YOU ALL, I'M ALWAYS GOING TO TALK ABOUT I NEED ALL THE NEEDS.

BUT I HAVE TO FACE THE REALIZATION AND THE REALIZATION WE GOTTA WORK WITHIN OUR MEANS THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER PRIORITIES, AND WE RESPECT THAT.

EVEN IN OUR MOST ROBUST YEARS, WITH $700 MILLION COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR COVID IN VARIOUS FORMS. WE DIDN'T HAVE EXTRA MONEY TO GIVE YOU. WE NEVER HAVE.

I THINK IT'S REALISTIC TO SAY NO ONE'S EVER GOING TO BE LIKE, HEY JOHN, WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH AN EXTRA $10 MILLION?

[04:30:03]

MAYOR PRO TEM TALKED ABOUT OLD CITY PARK. I ADMIT IT'S MY FAVORITE PARK.

THAT'S NOT IN DISTRICT 12. IT'S REALLY SO UNIQUE TO OUR CITY AS OUR FIRST PARK, BUT AS OUR HISTORY.

AND IT'S REALLY KIND OF MORE OF A MUSEUM EVEN THAN A PARK.

BUT I'M WONDERING, MAYBE THERE'S WAYS TO ASK A NONPROFIT TO TAKE IT OVER AND WE HAVE SOME OTHER ASSETS THAT PERHAPS ARE APPROPRIATE THAT WE WOULD BE HANDING THEM OFF AGAIN.

IS THERE SOMETHING YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY WORKING ON WITH THAT? IS THERE SOMETHING THE CITY MANAGER CAN HELP WORK ON WITH THAT? IS THERE A DISCUSSION HAPPENING ABOUT IT? YEAH.

I MEAN, WE'RE IN RANK AND ATTEST TO IT. AND I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYONE AT THIS TABLE IS JUST THAT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE GOT IN THE OLD CITY PARK, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE.

BOOM! KEEP IT RUNNING. AND WE'RE USED TO DOING THAT.

BUT BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR BANDWIDTH IS ONLY SO MUCH.

AND RYAN AND I, AS WE LOOK AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN THESE CORE, THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

IS THERE GOING TO BE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. IS IT GOING TO? IT'S OKAY TO SAY THAT THIS HASN'T BEEN YOUR. IT HAS NOW.

WE AIN'T WE AIN'T HAD TIME TO GET TO IT YET. BUT I'M SUGGESTING IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE SOMETHING YOU CAN TAKE OFF YOUR PLATE.

FRANKLY, I THINK THE SKATING AREA, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY A PRIVATE BUSINESS THAT, AGAIN, YOU CAME IN OLD CITY PARK, WAS BEING RUN BY A NONPROFIT THAT TURNED IT BACK OVER TO YOU.

I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE AS A VERY LARGE PARK SYSTEM, SORT OF THE SAFETY NET, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T LOOK BACK AGAIN.

THERE MIGHT BE A BLACK BUSINESS THAT'S LIKE, HEY, THIS IS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND I WANT TO RUN IT.

I WANT TO DO SOMETHING GREAT WITH IT, AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAND IT BACK TO THEM.

YEP. AND SAME THING FOR OLD CITY PARK. THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES, ACTIVISTS, PEOPLE WHO LOVE HISTORY THAT SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THIS OVER AND MAKE IT WHAT I THINK A LOT OF US WOULD LOVE TO SEE.

AND THERE'S JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE DALLAS. THERE'S JUST SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY THERE.

OKAY. SO I WOULD ADD THE BATHHOUSE TO THAT. I WAS AT A FUNCTION THERE.

I GOT TO SAY, I HADN'T BEEN THERE AND PROBABLY 20 YEARS, AND I DON'T THINK ANY MAINTENANCE HAS BEEN DONE 20 YEARS.

I'M JUST JOKING. BUT THE PAINS PEELING AND THE AIR CONDITIONING DIDN'T WORK, AND I WAS PRETTY SHOCKED AT THE CONDITION OF THAT.

AND PERHAPS AGAIN, MAYBE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WHITE ROCK ADVOCACY GROUPS.

MAYBE THEY WOULD LIKE TO START A NONPROFIT AND ACTUALLY RUN THAT AND CARE FOR IT.

OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO THE FUN SUBJECT OF POOLS.

HOW MANY MASTER PLANS HAVE YOU HAD THAT HAVE RECOMMENDED CLOSING THESE COMMUNITY POOLS? IT WAS THE 2015 MASTER PLAN, BUT I JUST HAD TO SHARE A QUICK HISTORY.

IT TOOK US LIKE TEN YEARS TO FINALLY GET EVERYONE TO AGREE TO THAT MASTER PLAN.

OKAY, SO IT HAD BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE THAT, BUT THE FIRST TIME IT WAS WRITTEN IN WAS 2015.

OKAY. AND IT RECOMMENDED CLOSING THE TWO POOLS.

YOU'RE RECOMMENDING OR RECOMMENDED CLOSING ALL OF THEM? OH, IT RECOMMENDED CLOSING ALL THE COMMUNITY POOLS AS WE BROUGHT IN THOSE, BROUGHT ONLINE, THOSE NINE COMMUNITY POOLS, IT RECOMMENDED THAT WE DECOMMISSION ALL OTHER COMMUNITY POOLS BECAUSE OF THE LIFE OF THOSE POOLS THEY HAVE LIVED.

AND I KEEP STRESSING THIS, AND I KNOW PEOPLE ARE ATTACHED TO THEIR COMMUNITY POOLS.

THEY HAVE LIVED THEIR USEFUL LIFE. WELL, I THINK ON YOUR REPORT, I WENT THROUGH SEVEN OF THE NINE ARE ACTUALLY OLDER THAN ME.

SO THAT'S SUPER OLD AND OLDER THAN A POOL SHOULD BE DURING THAT TIME.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT ONE OF THEM HAD BEEN BUILT SINCE THEN.

HOW MANY OF THE SPRAY GROUNDS OF THE 17 SPRAY GROUNDS? HOW MANY OF THOSE WERE BUILT DO YOU KNOW OF SINCE THE MASTER PLAN? I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S BEEN.

YEAH. MOST OF THEM WAS AFTER THE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE OF THE MILDRED DUNN AND DANIEL DELL.

AND I THINK CAMPBELL GREEN, I THINK WAS IN THAT FIRST GENERATION.

I THINK WE HAD ABOUT FIVE THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THE MASTER PLAN.

SO ABOUT A DOZEN OF THEM HAD BEEN BUILT SINCE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? AND WEREN'T THEY BUILT TO REPLACE THE COMMUNITY POOL.

LIKE DIDN'T YOU ALREADY DO THE. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE COMMUNITY POOL.

SO WE'RE BUILDING THIS. BUT WE JUST DIDN'T CLOSE THE COMMUNITY POOL.

[04:35:02]

HERE'S THE PLACES WHERE YOU SHOULD FILL IN. BUT PUT THE NEW POOLS.

AND THIS IS WHERE YOU SHOULD FILL IN WITH THE SPRAY GROUNDS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING COVERAGE FOR ALL YOUR AQUATICS NEEDS FOR A CITY THIS SIZE.

SO WHEN YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY WHAT SHOULD GO IN ITS PLACE, IN SOME CASES YOU ALREADY HAVE THE THING IN ITS PLACE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. BUT WE'RE WE'RE UPDATING THE AQUATICS MASTER PLAN SO IT MAY COME BACK, YOU KNOW, AND SAY THIS IS NOW BASED ON YOUR POPULATION.

THIS IS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. SO HOW MANY DISTRICTS HAVE NO POOLS AT ALL? DISTRICT 12. YEAH. SO HOW DO DISTRICT 12 RESIDENTS ACCESS WATER ACTIVITIES? THEY HAVE TO GO TO FRANCE. AND IS THAT ASKING TOO MUCH OF THEM? DO YOU INTEND TO CHANGE THAT? ARE YOU GOING TO PUT A POOL IN DISTRICT 12? NO. I MEAN, IF THE MASTER PLAN CALLS FOR IT BECAUSE THEY'RE USING THE SCIENCE, THEY'RE USING THE DATA.

IF THEY THESE ARE EXPERTS. WE HEARD THEY WOULD TELL US WHERE THESE POOLS SHOULD GO.

SO IT'S OKAY TO ASK DISTRICT 12 RESIDENTS TO GO TO A WHOLE DIFFERENT DISTRICT, TO GO TO A POOL.

AND IN SOME CASES, WE HAVE MULTIPLE POOLS IN A DISTRICT AND WE CAN'T CLOSE THEM BECAUSE THEIR COMMUNITY WON'T HAVE A POOL.

IS THAT RIGHT? REMEMBER, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE SHOULD WE SHOULD ADHERE TO THE MASTER PLAN BECAUSE WE DID REPLACE. WITH THE NINE NEW. AQUATIC FACILITIES THAT FOLKS WANT TO UTILIZE. AND THE DATA THE DATA SHOWS US THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY THAT POOLS ARE JUST LIKE LIBRARIES AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR BUDGET.

CULTURAL ARTS CENTERS ALSO DON'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STOP THINKING ABOUT EVERY SINGLE CITY AMENITY IS IN EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND START MAKING SURE THE AMENITIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE CITY FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

THAT'S YOUR TIME FOR THIS ROUND. BUT YOU HAVE OTHERS A MR. ROTH YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

ON THE. GENERAL PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT BUDGET, IT LOOKS LIKE HISTORICALLY, YOUR SORT OF FLAT OR OR EVEN REDUCING DOWN YOUR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, YOUR CAPITAL OUTLAY AMOUNTS.

IS THERE IS THERE SOME SOME OF THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD IN OUR DISTRICT IS THAT THERE WOULD BE AN INTEREST IN HAVING MORE SECURITY, MORE LIGHTING, MORE YOU KNOW, SORT OF PHYSICAL MAINTENANCE TO SOME OF THESE TRAILS, SOME OF THESE PARKS, SOME OF THESE WALKWAYS, SOME OF THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURES.

IS THAT HAVE YOU ALREADY BUILT IN SOME OF THOSE OR DO YOU HAVE YOU BUILT THAT INTO THIS BUDGET OR IS IT OR REALLY YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO SORT OF KEEP IT UP THE BEST YOU CAN RIGHT NOW? WELL, I WILL SAY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THIS COUNCIL THEY HAVE LISTENED TO OUR NEEDS THAT IT RELATED TO.

WE NEED TO BEEF UP SECURITY LIGHTING IN OUR PARKS, AND WE THINK WE'RE AT A POINT THERE.

AND I KNOW THE THE MAYOR COULD PROBABLY TOUCH ON IT, BUT I AM.

WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO DO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SECURITY ASSESSMENT ON THAT PARK.

BUT I DO THINK OVER THIS LAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE GOTTEN TO A POINT NOW THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS MORE COMPREHENSIVE SECURITY ASSESSMENT NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS BETWEEN LIGHTING SECURITY CAMERAS, OUR THREE LAYER APPROACH WHEN IT COMES TO SECURITY IN THE PARK, OUR DPD, THE MARSHALS AND OUR RANGERS.

BUT WE ARE PRIVILEGED, AND I KNOW. AND THE CITY MANAGER CAN TOUCH ON IT, BUT WE UNDERTAKE AN EXTENSIVE WHERE WE JUST RECEIVED A GRANT WITH THE BLOOMBERG FOUNDATION THAT'S GOING TO LOOK AT SECURITY HERE IN OUR PARK SYSTEM.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS RELATIVE TO THE HOMELESS SITUATION, WHICH REALLY DOES AFFECT THE PARK SYSTEM SIGNIFICANTLY.

IS THERE IS PORTIONS OF THOSE OF THAT BUDGET? ARE YOU COORDINATING WITH THEM IN TERMS OF UTILIZING FUNDS OR UTILIZING THEIR BUDGET TO, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT ISSUES, WHICH IS PART OF YOUR PARK? I CALL IT A SECURITY AND A IN A, A QUALITY OF LIFE SITUATION FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE USING IT.

[04:40:05]

OF COURSE. WE WORK WITH HOMELESS HOMELESS SOLUTION.

WE PARTNERED TOGETHER BUT ALSO THEY DEDICATED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO REALLY BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF CAMPS, BUT WE WE NEED TO REMOVE THEM RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OUR PARKS ARE FOR ACTIVE USERS AND WE JUST CAN'T HAVE CAMPS ALL THROUGHOUT OUR PARK SYSTEM. BUT BETWEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND HER DEPARTMENTS AND THE PARK DEPARTMENT AND THE COUNCIL GIVING US ADDITIONAL FUNDING, WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE. WITH THE ADDRESSING HOMELESS CAMPS ON OUR PARKS.

I NOTICED THERE WAS A THERE WAS A SMALL COMMENT THERE ABOUT TRYING TO REDUCE SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE BY MAYBE GOING WITH SOME ALTERNATIVE WEED AND IN PRIVATE CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT BUDGET, THE GOAT BUDGET IS AND WHAT HOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE GOATS AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? WITH THE GOAT BUDGET. AND I DON'T HAVE OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, RENE RENEE JOHNSON, WHO OVERSEES PARK OPERATIONS.

BUT I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, I THINK THAT GOAT BUDGET WAS 23 OR 30 K.

AND WHAT THEY DO, THEY JUST SELECTIVELY GO AROUND AND REMOVE THAT PIVOT.

THAT WORKED VERY WELL. IT IT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE.

SO YEAH, WE WILL STILL LOOK AT MEANS LIKE THAT TO GET INNOVATIVE, TO STILL LOOK AT REMOVING PRIVET THAT WAY.

WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO IN THIS YEAR WITH ALL OUR WITH OUR BACKHOES AND EVERYBODY ON OVERTIME REMOVING ALL THIS UNDERGROWTH. WE DO HAVE A PARTNER JUST THAT'S WORKING WITH US ON THE TRAIL THAT'S FUNDING THE REMOVAL OF PRIVET AND THAT IS THE LOOP. SO THEY ARE GOING AROUND. YES. AND HELPING TO REMOVE PRIVET AT THEIR EXPENSE.

AND IS MAINTENANCE AND MANAGEMENT OF THE BIKE TRAILS OR BIKE LANES.

AND IS THAT UNDER TRANSPORTATION. OR IS THAT UNDER YOUR PARKS? TRANSPORTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

TO THREE MINUTES. I'M SORRY. DID YOU SAY MENDELSOHN? YES. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSON, FOR THREE MINUTES. SORRY.

THANK YOU. SO I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FAIR PARK.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S BEEN HEADLINE NEWS AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING ON ALL OF OUR MINDS.

I'M WONDERING WHAT OTHER IDEAS THERE ARE. SO THE QUESTION WAS POSED TO YOU.

BINARY. ARE YOU GOING TO HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE TO RUN IT, OR ARE YOU GOING TO RUN IT YOURSELF? BUT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, I WAS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS, BUT RIGHT NOW THE IMMEDIATE NEED IS BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION, THE CURRENT SITUATION.

WE NEED TO GET ON THE GROUND AND START OPERATING RIGHT AWAY.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE BRIDGE ISSUE TO GET TO A CERTAIN PLACE.

THE THING IS THAT THERE'S FEW AMENITIES. THERE'S FEW PLACES, I THINK, IN THE CITY THAT ARE MORE ICONIC THAN FAIR PARK.

AND WHILE MANY OF US, I DON'T REALLY DO THIS, BUT ONLY SADLY, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A DESTINATION LIKE THIS, SAY, OH, THIS IS THE HEART OF DALLAS. EVERYONE LOVES THIS THING IN MY DISTRICT.

EVERYBODY DOES LOVE FAIR PARK, AND IT'S IT'S A SHAME TO WALK THROUGH IT BECAUSE IT'S SO INCREDIBLY SPECTACULAR AND SO UNBELIEVABLY RUNDOWN. AND I THINK EVERY COUNCIL SAYS WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. AND I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF IMAGINATION SESSION THAT WOULD THINK OF OTHER IDEAS, BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, I SAT AROUND WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ENVISIONED AN IDEA OF, WELL, WHAT IF IT WASN'T A PARK ANYMORE. AND WHAT IF THERE WERE ACTUALLY LOTS OF HOUSING THAT WAS BUILT AND IT BECAME A PLACE EVERY DAY PEOPLE COULD WALK AROUND AND GO TO RESTAURANTS, AND IT WAS A DESTINATION OF, HEY, LET'S GO HANG OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S COOL.

MAYBE LIKE A BISHOP ARTS, BUT ALL TOGETHER WITH THESE AMAZING ART DECO BUILDINGS, WITH THIS INCREDIBLE HISTORY OF OUR CITY.

AND OF COURSE, YOU CAN'T BUILD HOUSING IN A PARK, BUT IT REALLY COULD BE THE RENAISSANCE OF DALLAS TO HAVE THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

AND I HOPE YOU'LL THINK OF THINGS OUTSIDE THE BOX LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE ANSWER. IT'S JUST ONE THING THAT WAS SAID, BUT THERE MIGHT BE MORE CHOICES THAN WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SO FAR.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD HERE REALLY GIVING YOU ALL MORE DETAILS.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.

I MEAN, I DO HAVE TO GO ON THE RECORD PUBLICLY AS THE PARK DIRECTOR.

[04:45:05]

BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, I. I CAN SUPPORT ANYTHING, AND I TALK TO THEM.

IF I TALK TO ANYBODY, I CAN SUPPORT ANYTHING EXCEPT PERMANENT HOUSING ON THE PARK, UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AGREED TO WHEN WE ARE ACQUIRING NEW PARK LAND THAT BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO GOING IN IN THE BEGINNING.

BUT FAIR PARK AS I AS I EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FAIR PARK WAS OUR SECOND PARK BASICALLY.

AND I THINK WHATEVER WE DO, WE CAN'T LOSE FOCUS THAT IT IT'S GONE.

IT NEEDS TO STAY A PARK, BUT IT'S COMPLEMENTED WITH ALL THE THINGS YOU MENTIONED TO MAKE IT VIBRANT, TO SERVE OTHER PURPOSES. AND SO I AM ALL FOR RETAIL.

I'M ALL FOR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX ON THE RETAIL OUT THERE.

I'M ALL FOR, ON THE RECORD A A HOTEL OR TWO GOING IN AT FAIR PARK BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE IT SELF-SUSTAINABLE AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY.

AND RESTAURANTS HOW WE OPERATE. FAIR PARK, IF YOU WANT IT TO BE SUSTAINABLE.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THE PARK IS THE FOCUS AND EVERYTHING ELSE COMPLEMENTS THE PARK.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WILL SAY I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO CALL IT THE RIGHT WORD, BUT WHEN I'VE BEEN IN DEEP ELLUM, HEADED THEN INTO FAIR PARK, I MEAN, THE RETAIL EXTENDS RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD NOT BE MUCH OF A LEAP TO GO ACROSS EXPOSITION, RIGHT? AND REALLY MAKE THIS SOMETHING THAT WILL GENERATE REVENUE.

THAT'S RIGHT. PROVIDE HOUSING, HAVE ENTERTAINMENT.

YEP. AND NOT UNLIKE CLYBOURNE PARK WHERE YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, LET'S JUST GO THERE.

THEY'RE NOT WITH AN AGENDA, BUT SOMETHING FUN PEOPLE WATCH.

THINGS TO DO WILL POP IN AT THE ART MUSEUM. SAME THING.

THERE'S SO MANY AMAZING AMENITIES THERE THAT I JUST THINK IT'S A SHAME IF WE DO NOT PURSUE MAKING IT THE ACTUAL JEWEL THAT IT IS. YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT'S YOUR TIME.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR PARK PERSONNEL? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO MR. CITY MANAGER, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK IF YOU'RE GOOD WISDOM DISMISSING THIS PANEL.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO BACK INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. YES, WE I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

AND THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. JUST LET'S STAND JUST ONE SECOND. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT THE LANGUAGE RIGHT THAT I NEED.

ALL RIGHT. I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF ONE PIECE OF BUSINESS THAT I DID NOT DO EARLIER.

BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THAT IS, WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE A BIRTHDAY AROUND THE HORSESHOE.

MAXIE JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBER MAXIE JOHNSON, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. WHEN IS THE ACTUAL DAY? WHEN WAS THE ACTUAL DAY? IS IT YESTERDAY? SO WE NORMALLY SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR COLLEAGUES.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

BUT LET ME READ THE LANGUAGE FIRST. SO IT IS NOW 4:43 P.M.

ON AUGUST 20TH, 2025. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS FIVE, 51.071 AND 551 .074 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MANNER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER THREE. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL STAND AT RECESS UNTIL FIVE 3530.

AND WHO'S GOING TO LEAD OUR SINGING? SO WE'RE AT RECESS UNTIL 530 AT THIS POINT AND ALRIGHT.

CITY COUNCIL HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION OF SECTIONS FIVE, 51.071 AND 551 .074, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

AND AT 6:02 P.M. ON AUGUST 20TH, 2025, WE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

MADAM CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

[C. 25-2293A FY 2025-26 Budget: Transportation and Public Works Department]

WE THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO KIND OF HEAR ABOUT THE WAY WE'VE APPROACHED OUR OUR GOALS OF STRENGTHENING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS, MAKING SURE THAT OUR STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND PUBLIC SPACES ARE SAFE AND RELIABLE FOR EVERYONE.

THIS WAS ONE OF OUR TOP PRIORITIES IN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THIS YEAR, SO STAFF WILL SHARE HOW THIS BUDGET BUILDS ON THE FOUNDATION.

WORK THAT WE BEGAN LAST YEAR REFLECTS ON THOSE PRIORITIES AND POSITIONS DALLAS FOR CONTINUED GROWTH AND SUCCESS.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO GUS AND CARLY.

HE'S GOING TO TAKE IT FROM HERE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT TO KIND OF THE OVERVIEW.

[04:50:02]

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER, HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL GUS MCCARTY, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION. SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, OBVIOUSLY, I'LL BE SHORT AND BRIEF.

SO THE PRESENTATION, BASICALLY WHAT I DID IN THE PRESENTATION, I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO KIND OF DO THIS HERE AND HAVE THE STATS OF HOW MASSIVE OUR SYSTEM IS AND WHAT WE DO. SO I PUT IT IN AND IT IS FOR REFERENCE.

SO I'M GOING TO SKIP ALL THESE SLIDES. BUT ALL TO SAY IS WE'VE GOT A LARGE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF AND MANAGE AND SO ON.

SO MOVING FORWARD TO SLIDE NUMBER 14, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CFO AND AND THE BUDGET DIRECTOR FOR WORKING WITH ME ON THIS AND ALLOWING ME TO BE AT THE TABLE.

SO WE'RE INVESTING ABOUT $162 MILLION IN FUNDING FROM VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES, INCLUDING THE GENERAL FUNDS, THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM, THE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, AND THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE OF THE SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN APPROXIMATELY 750 LANES MILES IN FY 2526 COMPARED TO THE 710 THAT WE DID.

AND WE'RE ON TRACK TO DO IN THIS YEAR, THE KEY ADDITIONS TO THE STREET FUNDS INCLUDE $8 MILLION INCREASE IN THE GENERAL FUNDS, $15 MILLION IN BOND INTEREST THAT HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED INTO THE INTO THE STREET TREATMENT AND ALMOST $20 MILLION IN ADVANCING THE 2024 BONDS FROM YEAR THREE FROM THIS YEAR TO YEAR TWO, WHICH IS THE THE CURRENT YEAR.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. WE'RE ALSO ADVANCING THE NEXT SLIDE.

I MEAN, SLIDE NUMBER 15, PLEASE. WE'RE ADVANCING DIVISION ZERO PLAN.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A $1.6 MILLION IN FEDERAL IN GENERAL FUNDS.

AND THESE ARE GOING TO BE LEVERAGING $9 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE HAVE A GRANT THAT WE WE WERE AWARDED.

AND WHILE THE FOCUS IS ON FIVE CORRIDORS, WHICH IS FERGUSON SAINT AUGUSTINE, LAKE JUNE, CAMP WISDOM AND MAPLE.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER LOCATIONS. AND HERE I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CREDIT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR PUTTING SOME OF THEIR ARPA FUNDS INTO THE IMPROVEMENTS. AGAIN, EXAMPLE DISTRICT NINE.

FOR HELPING WITH THE 2017 BOND AND IN THE UPGRADES OF TRAFFIC TO TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON FERGUSON, BARNES BRIDGE AND AND SAINT FRANCIS DISTRICT FIVE.

THE ADDITION OF ARPA FUNDS INTO INTO THE VISION ZERO SO THAT WE CAN CAPTURE MASTERS IN ADDITION TO THESE CORRIDORS AND SEVERAL OTHERS AS AN EXAMPLE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WE'RE IMPLEMENTING ALSO THE PHASE ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED 2025 BIKE PLAN. SO WE HAVE $2 MILLION IN THE BASE BUDGET, PLUS $1.6 MILLION FROM THE DART FUNDS.

AND WE HAVE $3.6 MILLION. AND WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING AND WE HAVE LAID OUT A FIVE YEAR PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE PLAN. AND SOME OF THE NEWLY RECONSTRUCTED PROJECTS INCLUDE THE CBD FAIR PARK LINK.

WE STILL HAVE THAT LAST PIECE, WHICH IS THE CROSSING AT THE RAIL STATION.

I MEAN, THE RAILROAD TRACKS. ONCE WE GET THAT, THAT PROJECT WILL BE READY TO GO.

CHALK HILL SHOULD BE FINISHING UP TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR AND RIVERFRONT IS STARTING SO THAT WILL HAVE A SHARED USE PATH TO TO DO THAT.

AND WE HAVE NUMEROUS OTHER PROJECTS FOR THAT NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE'RE PROGRESSING THE PROCUREMENT OF THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

AND WE HAVE VARIOUS FUNDING. WE HAVE THE GENERAL FUNDS, THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM AND FEDERAL FUNDS FROM THAT.

AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE BASE BUDGET $2 MILLION IN TRAFFIC CALMING STUDIES AND TREATMENTS.

NEXT SLIDE. SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THE CLEANUP OF THE CITY.

SO WE HAVE INCREASED THE MOWING AND LITTER REMOVAL AND ENCAMPMENT CLEANING THROUGH THE INCREASED MOWING CYCLES AND LITTER REMOVAL, INCREASED CONTRACTOR CITY RIGHT OF WAY LITTER REMOVAL, PROACTIVE IN-HOUSE LITTER REMOVAL AND HIGH WEED MAINTENANCE AND ON DEMAND STRIKE TEAM THAT REMOVES LITTER FROM RIGHT OF WAYS FROM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

NEXT SLIDE. SO WE'RE ALSO ADDING ABOUT $140,000 FOR THE BIANNUAL TUNNEL INSPECTION.

WE'RE ADDING ONE TIME INCREASE OF $300,000 FOR PAVEMENT MARKINGS.

[04:55:01]

WE'RE ALSO ADDING $250,000 FOR PAVEMENT REFLECTIVITY TESTING TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

WE'RE INCREASING THE STREETCAR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET BY 284,000 TO MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS, AND WE'RE ADDING $1.25 MILLION FOR STREET LIGHTING MATERIAL COST INCREASES.

NEXT. SO THE NEXT STEPS ARE TO BE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH I WILL BE PRESENTING ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. WE THERE WILL BE A COUNCIL ITEM ON AUGUST 27TH TO COUNCIL AGENDA FOR THE SUPPLEMENTING THE EXISTING CONSULTANT'S CONTRACT TO TO FINISH UP THE ANALYSIS, IF YOU WILL, AND TO TRY TO GENERATE THE NEW, REVISED AND UPDATED IMP.

AND THIS IS VERY CRUCIAL ITEM, AND I PLAN ON COMING BACK HERE ON SEPTEMBER 3RD TO PROVIDE TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE IMP IS AND WHAT IS BEING DONE AND HOW THIS HELPS US IN PRIORITIZATION PROCESS.

WITH THAT, WE'LL HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

MEMBERS. QUESTIONS. COMMENTS. THOUGHTS? GOING ONCE.

GOING TWICE. GUS CAN CARLY DOES IT AGAIN. NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. HONORABLE MAYOR PRESENTATION. GREAT JOB, GREAT JOB.

WONDERFUL WONDERFUL. BEST BEST PRESENTATION. BEST PRESENTATION.

YOU WIN THE AWARD. ALL RIGHT. MADAM CITY MANAGER, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE VERY QUICKLY TO OUR LAST ITEM.

[D. 25-2296A Dallas Love Field Master Plan]

THIS IS DEFINITELY A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THOSE CONSTRAINTS, ACCOMMODATING THE CONTINUED GROWTH AND REALLY TAKING THIS LONG, THIS STRATEGIC LONG TERM APPROACH. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAVE PATRICK TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO START TO SEE VERY SOON. AND THEN WE HAVE AT THE VERY BEGINNING, I THINK, SOME REALLY NICE SLIDES THAT JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU MORE OF A VISUAL OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE GOING FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT, PATRICK, IF YOU'LL HIT THE LIKE HIGHLIGHTS FOR US.

AND THANK YOU. PATRICK RENAUD, DIRECTOR OF AVIATION.

SO I'M HERE TODAY, AS KIM SAID, TO TO SHARE OUR PROGRESS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO RE-ENVISION THE AIRPORT AND THE NEXT STEPS TO CONTINUE GROWTH AT DALLAS LOVE FIELD.

AND THIS IS THE AGENDA, BUT I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THAT.

THE EXCITING PART IS AT THE END. AND THE VISUALIZATION THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU.

SO IF YOU GO BACK JUST REAL QUICK JUST LET ME GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE.

OUR THIRD SLIDE. SORRY. ONE MORE BACK. JUST REAL QUICK.

WE GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS. WE WE KNOW THE AIRPORT REVENUE IS RESTRICTED.

THE AIRPORT IS A HUGE ECONOMIC GENERATOR. AND WE HAVE A NEW ECONOMIC IMPACT REPORT, WHICH WE'LL BE SHARING WITH THIS COUNCIL SOON.

BUT SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM THAT IS $6 BILLION IN ECONOMIC INPUT, 27,000 JOBS.

AS WE LOOK AT THIS MAJOR EXPANSION, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING INTO SOME OF OUR INDUSTRY STUDIES FOR EVERY 1000 EMPLOYMENTS, WHICH IS A PASSENGER BOARDING. THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL ECONOMIC IMPACT.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO ADD ANOTHER 3 MILLION PASSENGER EMPLOYMENTS IN THIS STUDY, IT'S A BIG NUMBER.

AND ALSO EVERY MILLION INVESTED IN AN AIRPORT CAPITAL PROJECTS MEANS 3.4 JOBS.

THIS PROGRAM WILL BE MASSIVE. IT'LL BE THE BIGGEST PROGRAM IN THE AIRPORT'S HISTORY.

IT WILL HAVE $1 BILLION NUMBER TIED TO IT, BUT WE WILL SHARE THAT BACK WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH OUR ADVANCED PLANNING AND WE RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

NEXT SLIDE. PASSENGER ACTIVITIES HAVE GONE UP.

EVERYBODY KNOWS THE RIGHT AMENDMENT WENT AWAY.

BUT IT WAS REFORMED, SO THERE'S STILL RESTRICTIONS.

WE CAN ONLY GO TO 50 STATES IN WASHINGTON DC.

WE CAN ONLY HAVE 20 GATES. THAT REMAINS IN EFFECT.

NEXT SLIDE. AND JUST GOING BACK, I MEAN, A LOT OF US SAY THE THE LOVE FIELD MODERNIZATION PROGRAM FROM 2014 JUST HAPPENED.

BUT IT'S A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE THE CITY, SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, NOBODY CAN ENVISION THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO COME THROUGH.

AND WHAT HAPPENED THE NEXT 10 TO 11 YEARS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION.

WE'RE TRYING WE'RE CLOSE TO 9 BILLION BOARDINGS.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO CLOSE TO 12 MILLION BY REALLY THE END OF 2030.

TIMELINE IS REALLY WHEN WE START TO FLATTEN OUT.

THAT'S WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT. NEXT SLIDE I'LL I'LL SKIP THROUGH THIS NEXT SLIDE.

JUST THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.

SO EVERYTHING IN GREEN IS WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED.

WE'VE HAD FOUR PUBLIC OPEN HOUSES. WE'VE HAD SEVEN STAKEHOLDER GROUP MEETINGS.

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WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO BUTTON UP THE MASTER PLAN PROGRAM AND GO INTO WHAT'S NEXT, WHICH IS THE LOVE FIELD EXPANSION AIRPORT PROGRAM.

SO WE'LL BE FINISHING THAT UP THIS YEAR. AND WE'RE STARTING ADVANCED PLANNING NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.

SO FORECAST ACTIVITY AGAIN. WE ARE CAPPED AT 20 GATES.

THAT DOESN'T GO AWAY UNLESS FEDERAL LAW CHANGES.

SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE PLANNING ACTIVITY OR PASSENGER ACTIVITY LEVELS WE REALLY START TO FLATTEN OUT TOWARDS THE END OF 2030.

SO IT'S CRUCIAL THAT WE IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY AT THE AIRPORT, AND WE DO WHAT WE CAN TO GET THOSE EXTRA 3 MILLION EMPLOYMENTS OUT OF THIS AIRPORT, TO GET US ALMOST 12 MILLION PAYMENTS. TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS VERY UNIQUE, AND THERE ISN'T REALLY AN AIRPORT THAT WE CAN COMPARE OURSELVES TO. SO IF YOU LOOK AT AIRPORTS LIKE PORTLAND AND SOME OF THE LARGER, THEY HAVE 60 GATES, WE'RE DEALING WITH 20 GATES.

WE HAVE THE HIGHEST GATE UTILIZATION IN THE WORLD.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FROM WHEN YOU COME IN TO THE AIRPORT TO WHEN YOU BOARD YOUR FLIGHT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT VERY CLOSELY AND NEEDS TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.

AND THESE ARE SOME OF WHERE WE'RE HEADING TO.

AND THEN SOME OF THE AIRPORTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ARE SMALLER TO US.

AND I THINK YOU'VE PROBABLY FLOWN THROUGH A LOT OF THESE AIRPORTS AND KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE. THIS IS A QUICK GAP ANALYSIS OF HOW SHORT WE ARE. I THINK ANYBODY THAT'S EVER PICKED SOMEBODY UP FROM THE CURB OR DROP SOMEBODY OFF KNOWS HOW CONGESTED IT IS.

WE WE NEED ABOUT 89% MORE CURB CURVED SPACE. SO WHAT THIS NEXT PROGRAM IS GOING TO SHOW YOU IS HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING ALL THESE GAPS IN SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES, FROM RENTAL CARS, PUBLIC PARKING TERMINAL AND THE CURBSIDE.

OVERALL, THE MASTER PLAN PROGRAM IDENTIFIED 14 DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

THESE 14 PROJECTS WERE BUILT INTO THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IN MAY.

WE WILL START MOVING THOSE INTO THE EXECUTION AND HOW WE DELIVER THESE PROJECTS.

THESE ARE EVERYTHING FROM AIRCRAFT PARKING POSITIONS TO ENTRYWAYS TO CONSOLIDATED RENTAL CAR FACILITIES.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU NOW, NEXT IS REALLY WHAT OUR PRIORITY IS, WHICH IS IN THE TERMINAL AREA.

THAT'S WHERE WE NEED THE MOST WHERE THE MOST NEED IS RIGHT NOW.

AND THESE OTHER PROJECTS WILL START TO COME THROUGH ADVANCED PLANNING, AND WE'LL IDENTIFY MORE WHAT THOSE WILL LOOK LIKE.

SO WE STARTED WITH THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP WITH 17 DIFFERENT PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES.

WE'VE NARROWED THAT DOWN OVER THE LAST YEAR. WE'VE HAD PUBLIC OPEN HOUSES ON THIS, AND WE'VE GOTTEN TO WHAT WE CALL OUR PREFERRED AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THIS IS CONCEPTUAL LEVEL PLANNING. WE HAVE A REALLY COOL VISUALIZATION.

WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT'S CONCEPTUAL LEVEL PLANNING. DON'T THEY MAY OR MAY NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.

SO ONCE WE HAVE THE ARCHITECTS IN MORE ADVANCED PLANNING DONE NEXT YEAR, WE'LL WE'LL RETURN AND SHOW YOU MORE PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOK LIKE.

BUT I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH VERY QUICKLY HERE WHAT THE INITIAL THINGS LOOK LIKE.

SO AGAIN THE PROGRAM IS VERY LARGE AND WILL COME WITH THE FINAL NUMBER AND WHAT THAT IS.

BUT REALLY WITH THIS PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE PLAN, WHAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT IS 800 MILLION IN NET COSTS THAT THE AIRLINES HAVE AGREED TO PAY FOR, OR THEIR FEES OR THEIR COST PER IMPLEMENT.

SO WITHIN THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE ELEMENTS IN THE TERMINAL AREA, WHICH IS KIND OF HARD TO SEE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE VISUALIZATION. BUT SIGNIFICANT CHANGES WHAT WE CALL THE HEAD HOUSE, WHICH IS WHERE YOU'RE CHECKING IN GETTING YOUR BAGS.

GOING THROUGH SECURITY CHECKPOINT. ADDITIONAL GARAGE SPACE AND A MULTI-LEVEL CURB SO THAT ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES ARE SEPARATED.

NOW. AND THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE VISUALIZATION.

SO THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES. SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS.

SO WE'RE COMING IN FROM THE NORTH. IF IT'S FINE THERE WE GO.

SO YOU CAN START TO SEE KIND OF HOW THINGS WILL START TO CHANGE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START OUT ON THE CONCOURSE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A 50 FOOT BUMP OUT EXPANSION.

TO GET US MORE SPACE AIRSIDE. UP ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE GARAGE, A NEW GARAGE COMING IN FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING.

THIS IS WHERE THE MOST DRAMATIC IS TAKING DOWN GARAGE.

BRINGING IN A NEW HEADHOUSE WITH TICKETING, BAGGAGE CLAIM, SECURITY, NEW GROUND TRANSPORTATION CENTER CLOSE IN, AND NEW MULTI-LEVEL CURBS IN ROADWAY. NEW PASSENGER PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.

THE EXISTING BUILDING WILL PROBABLY BE REPURPOSED, BUT FOR THESE PURPOSES WE'RE SHOWING IT COMING DOWN.

NEW BAGGAGE SUPPORT. AND THEN WE COME IN. YOU CAN SEE KIND OF SOME OF THE NEW ACCESS ROAD.

WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH ENTRYWAY WITH COG AND TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY.

WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH WITH THE RENTAL CARS ON WHAT THEIR NEW AREA WILL LOOK LIKE.

SO WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THAT THERE. BUT YOU START TO COME IN. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE NEW ROADWAY AND WHERE WE HAVE THE MULTI-LEVEL ROAD DECK COMING IN.

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YOU CAN SEE IT'S VERY DIFFERENT. AGAIN THIS IS CONCEPTUAL LEVEL PLANNING.

THIS HASN'T BEEN DESIGNED. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE INTERIOR WHAT IT COULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE.

LOWER CEILINGS IN THIS CASE IS IF WE'RE UNABLE TO MOVE THE CONTROL TOWER, THERE'S SOME SITING ISSUES.

SO FOR THESE PURPOSES WE'RE SHOWING THAT THIS IS THE MOVING WALKWAYS ON THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.

SO WE GO INSIDE. YOU CAN SEE JUST VISUALLY IF YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE KNOCKING OUT ANOTHER 50FT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THIS GIVES US A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR CONCESSION SPACE THAT WE'RE LACKING.

HOLD ROOM SPACE WHEN YOU'RE WAITING RESTROOMS. AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS AREA AS WE COME BACK IN.

IF YOU IF YOU LOOK WHERE THE PLANES ARE PARKED, THERE'S KIND OF AN UPPER LEVEL. THAT'S A POTENTIAL LOUNGE AREA WHERE ONE OF THE ELEMENTS WE'RE MISSING IS, IS A LOUNGE. AND THEN COMING BACK AROUND, YOU CAN AGAIN SEE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST FEW YEARS, GROUND TRANSPORTATION, THE TNC, THE UBERS, THE LIFTS SHUTTLES ALL BEING CLOSER IN ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE.

SO YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC ON ONE SIDE, YOU HAVE ARRIVALS BELOW.

AND DEPARTURES ABOVE AT THE AT ON THE OTHER SIDE.

THIS IS THE BAGGAGE CLAIM. EXPANDED BAGGAGE CLAIM COMING OUT TO PASSENGER PICKUP AREA.

AND AGAIN THIS IS JUST A HIGHER LEVEL OF THE CAMPUS.

SOME PRETTY DRAMATIC CHANGES. BUT OVERALL, ONCE WE GET INTO SOME ADVANCED PLANNING AND WE START WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECTS WE'LL BE TRYING TO PRESERVE OR WE WILL PRESERVE THAT EASE OF USE OF DALLAS LOVE FIELD, THAT IDENTITY IDENTITY, THAT SENSE OF SPACE THAT ARE PLACE THAT YOU'RE IN.

DALLAS AT DALLAS LOVE FIELD. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

WE WILL BE RETURNING IN THE SPRING. IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT STEP, WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THE MASTER PLAN.

WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE TAKING THE PREFERRED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH WE'RE CALLING LEAP.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ADVANCED PLANNING.

NOW, WE EXPECT TO WRAP THAT UP EARLY NEXT YEAR, AND WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF IMPLEMENTATION SCHEDULE.

TOTAL PROGRAM COSTS AND REALLY WHAT THE FACILITY IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

YEAH. BRILLIANT. JESSE MORENO, OUR MAYOR PRO TEM, HAS A QUESTION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, A SINGLE QUESTION. I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE FIVE MINUTES. I'M GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION EVERY TIME THAT WE TALK ABOUT LOVE FIELD.

YOU DID MENTION A NEW ENTRYWAY, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WAS IN REFERENCE TO A NEW ENTRY OVER BACHMAN LAKE.

IS THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE THE NEW ENTRY IS OFF OF MOCKINGBIRD.

WE'RE LOOKING AT FLYOVERS. REALLY? IT'S A COORDINATION WITH REGIONAL, WITH COG, WITH TRANSPORTATION ON.

REALLY, WE'RE AN ELEMENT OF THE MOCKINGBIRD CORRIDOR AND SOLVING THAT.

THERE'S BEEN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS ON THAT NORTH ENTRY IN THIS PLANNING HORIZON.

WHAT WE DID, WE DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING INTO PLAY.

THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IN CONSIDERATION DOWN THE ROAD.

OKAY. AND THEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE EXPANSION AREA FOR THE AIRPORT ITSELF, PRIMARILY FOR CONCESSIONS.

IS THAT RIGHT? SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL THE AIRSIDE, AFTER YOU GO THROUGH SECURITY THAT WOULD BE CONCESSIONS.

THAT WOULD BE RESTROOMS, HOLD ROOM SPACE WHERE YOU WAIT, AND BACKUP HOUSE SPACE.

THAT WE'RE SHORT ON. AND THEN ON THE, ON THE PUBLIC SIDE IS THE TICKETING, THE CHECK IN, THE BAGGAGE CLAIM, SO ON THE SECURED AREA. WOULD THAT POTENTIALLY BE AN AREA FOR EXPANSION OF GATES IN THE FUTURE, EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD HAVE REQUIRED FDA CLEARANCE? SURE. SO THE THAT FACILITY DOES HAVE THE CAPACITY.

SO AIRSIDE, WE DO HAVE CAPACITY TO GET WHAT WE WOULD CALL OUR CONSTRAINED OR UNCONSTRAINED FORECAST.

IF WE HAD GATES, WE COULD GET TO 20 MILLION EMPLOYMENTS.

THAT'S PART OF OUR PUBLIC FORECASTS IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT YOU APPROVED.

THERE'S ACTUALLY PRE-APPROVAL FOR THE FIRST SET OF GATES.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE PRE-APPROVAL FROM THE AIRLINES FOR EACH SET OF THOSE GATES. BUT YES, THE THE LANDSIDE FACILITY FROM THE ENTRYWAY IN WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE AN UNCONSTRAINED GROWTH IF WE WERE EVER IN THAT SITUATION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT ITEM D FROM TODAY'S BRIEFINGS? SEEING NONE. MADAM CITY MANAGER, I'LL LET YOU.

MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFINGS THAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR TODAY.

THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. MADAM CITY SECRETARY. YES, MR. MAYOR, YOU DO HAVE ONE VIRTUAL SPEAKER. I'LL GO AHEAD AND RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

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ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM OR THE SESSION. IN THIS CASE, INDIVIDUALS ARE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THE VIRTUAL SPEAKER.

I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. ALSO, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON.

ONLY NICOLE MIKA IS NOT PRESENT. STEVEN BRODEUR.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK? THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE RULES.

YEAH. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON. AND PLEASE REMOVE THE SPEAKER FROM THE SYSTEM.

TODD SMITH IS NOT PRESENT. JENNIFER ATHERTON NOT PRESENT.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING AND YOUR MEETING AND YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. THE TIME IS 6:24 P.M.. AND THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.