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[Community Police Oversight Board on September 9, 2025.]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I BELIEVE WE HAVE QUORUM.I'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
MY NAME IS JOHN MARK DAVIDSON.
I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
WE HAVE CONFIRMED A QUORUM OF OUR MEMBERS, SO WE ARE READY TO PROCEED.
THE OFFICIAL START TIME FOR THIS MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025 IS 5 32.
AND WE WILL NOW BEGIN THIS MEETING WITH A ROLL CALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
EACH OF US HAVE BEEN NOMINATED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR OF DALLAS TO SERVE AS REPRESENTATIVES OF CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY.
AND AS I CALL EACH DISTRICT, PLEASE INDICATE YOUR PRESENCE.
BRENDA FRIEDMAN PRESENT AND DISTRICT 15 IS MYSELF THE CHAIRMAN, JOHN MARK DAVIDSON.
PRESENT FOR THOSE JOINING US IN PERSON AND ONLINE, PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS AN OFFICIAL MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE DESIGNED TO FOSTER OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY STAKEHOLDERS, WHILE ENSURING THAT THE BOARD'S BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND RESPECTFULLY.
SO TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL, DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
ALL ATTENDEES MUST REMAIN SEATED UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED.
ANYONE CAUSING A DISRUPTION WILL RECEIVE ONE.
DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN THE REMOVAL FROM THIS MEETING.
THE BOARD IS COMMITTED TO ACCESSIBILITY.
SO IF YOU REQUIRE TRANSLATION SERVICES, SIGN LANGUAGE, INTERPRETERS, OR OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS, PLEASE CONTACT OUR OFFICE AT THE O CPO@DALLAS.GOV AT LEAST 72 HOURS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, CPOB, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD, IS TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN TRUST BY ENSURING THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT INVOLVING DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL ARE REVIEWED FAIRLY, TRANSPARENTLY AND THOROUGHLY.
THE BOARD IS SUPPORTED BY THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, THE OCPO, WHICH PROVIDES LOGISTICAL AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP US FULFILL THIS MISSION AND MAINTAIN ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE COMPLAINT PROCESS.
SO THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE.
EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, THIS TIME MAY BE ADJUSTED TO PARTICIPATE.
PLEASE SEE A MEMBER OF OUR CITY STAFF AT THE FRONT, RIGHT HERE AT THE SIDE OF THIS ROOM FOR SPEAKER CARDS AND FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT SEC SESSION AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
AND THERE'S NO SIGNUP REQUIRED FOR THOSE THAT ARE ONLINE OR THOSE THAT ARE IN PERSON AND PUBLIC COMMENT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THOUGHTS ON MATTERS WITHIN JURISDICTION OF THIS BOARD.
WHILE DISSENT IS WELCOME, PERSONAL TAX THREATS, PROFANITY OR OFF TOPIC REMARKS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
WE STRIVE FOR A CONSTRUCTIVE, RESPECTFUL DIALOGUE.
AND I DO KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HERE HAVE SHOWN THAT.
UH, THE FIRST FOR OUR PUBLIC COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO INVITE TO THE MICROPHONE, MISS DOLORES PHILLIPS.
MS. PHILLIPS, ALWAYS A JOY TO HAVE YOU HERE AND YOU KNOW THE DRILL.
UM, WHEN YOU BEGIN, UH, THE TIMER WILL GO OFF AND WE JUST ASK THAT YOU RESPECT THE THREE MINUTE LIMIT.
THANK YOU, CHAIR DOLORES PHILLIPS.
WHEN I COME AND I STAND BEFORE YOU, PLEASE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT A DRILL.
LAST MONTH AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, I WENT TO OPEN RECORDS TO GET A REQUEST, AND I WAS APPROACHED BY TWO OFFICERS VERY PROFESSIONALLY.
SHE SAID, YOU CAN'T GO BACK BEHIND THE CITY SECRETARY'S
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OFFICE TO GET THROUGH.SHE WAS, SOMEBODY HAD REPORTED THAT I WALKED BEHIND THE CITY, SECRETARY'S DESK, WENT THROUGH THE BACK TO GET TO OPEN RECORDS.
THE OFFICER DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS A TACTIC THAT SHE WAS EXPLOITED TO USE, TO BE USED TO INTIMIDATE ME TO SAY THIS, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SPEAK OF INJUSTICES? SO I'M WAITING TO GET THE BODY CAM SO WE CAN ALL LOOK AT IT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
AND IT'S VERY EASY TO, TO START A FABRICATED FILE ON ANYONE BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT OFFICER HAS TO MAKE A REPORT.
AND THEN I WOULD BE A SUBJECT IN HER NOTES THAT SHE HAD TO APPROACH ME ABOUT WALKING BEHIND THE CITY SECRETARY'S DESK WHEN I NEVER DID NOT EVEN CLOSE.
SECONDLY, THE FABRICATED POLICE REPORT, OCTOBER 25TH, 2013 0 2 7 3 2 9 1 DASH A WAS A PREMEDITATED RETALIATORY POLICE REPORT.
I WAS THERE TO SPEAK OF ERASE 9 1 1 CALLS BACK IN 2009.
TO UNDERSTAND THAT, I'M NOT AT ALL SURPRISED BY THE RETALIATION.
IF I WAS A OFFICER, SPEAKING OF INJUSTICES, MY FELLOW OFFICERS IN BLUE WOULD BE THE ONES WHO OSTRACIZED, REJECT ME AND UNPROTECT ME.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THE RETALIATION IS THAT IT'S NO SURPRISE MY DAD, HE CRIED FOR ME RIGHT OVER HERE AT REHABILITATION WELLNESS CENTER OF DALLAS.
HE'S THE ONLY THING I KNOW HIS FATHER.
YOU TIRED OF HEARING THAT? RIGHT? I'VE NEVER COME BEFORE.
YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS TO BE DOING.
THEY USED THAT FABRICATED POLICE REPORT AND STOP GUARDIANSHIP AND PR DASH 23 DASH 0 3 4 2 9 DASH TWO.
I SEEN TEARS COME FROM MY DAD'S EYES.
HE'S THE ONLY THING I KNOW I WASN'T PLAYING.
THAT'S NOT A THREAT WE SUPPOSED TO COMMUNICATE TO LET EACH OTHER KNOW, HEY, THIS A PROBLEM.
CAN WE SIT DOWN AND RESOLVE? EVEN CORPORAL NER DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN THAT SITUATION.
THAT'S WHY THEY ERASED TWO HOURS OF VIDEO FROM THE HEADQUARTERS ON THE FIRST FLOOR IN THE LOBBY WHERE THE MEETING WAS HELD.
PR MAYOR ROLLINS PREARRANGED THAT MEETING.
IT'S A COVERUP WITHIN A COVERUP, AND YOU KEEP USING THAT TO HARM AND TO HURT.
THAT'S WHY YOU GOT OFFICERS BEING FIRED FOR LESS THAN WHAT THEY MASKING.
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT YOU TRYING TO BUILD TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU EVEN FIND OFFICERS FOR LESS THAN WHAT THEY ASKING.
APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE TO THE MICROPHONE MS. MARY HOSKINS.
IF THE BOARD COULD AT THIS TIME REVIEW THE MINUTES INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS.
AND IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 12TH, 2025? LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, DISTRICT FOUR, MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITHOUT CHANGES.
THANK YOU, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.
IS THERE A SECOND? JUDGE C VICTOR LANDER DISTRICT A SECOND.
THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND BEEN SECONDED BY JUDGE VICTOR LANDER.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, SAY AYE.
WE'RE NOW, UH, GOING TO BE MOVING TO ITEM FIVE, AND I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY EARLIER IN THIS MEETING, AND WE'VE DECIDED WE'RE GONNA TABLE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE FOR NEXT MEETING.
THE REASON IS THAT, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER, THERE ARE SOME BOARD MEMBERS, UH, THIS WHOSE TERM HAS ENDED, SADLY, DON'T WANNA GET EMOTIONAL HERE,
AND, UM, WE WANT, UH, THERE'LL BE SOME NEW MEMBERS.
AND SO INSTEAD OF DOING THIS TWICE, WE THOUGHT WE'D JUST DO THIS ONE TIME, UH, FOR THE NEW MEMBERS, UH, TO HEAR NEXT MEETING.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A NEED, BUT LET'S JUST DO IT FOR FUN.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE? UH, ITEM FIVE TO NEXT MEETING.
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C VICTOR LANDER.IS THERE A SECOND? BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14.
DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH OPPOSES SHE WANTED TO HEAR THIS PRESENTATION.
UH, AND SO
THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OCPO, SIERRA OSU TO GIVE US THIS REPORT.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS SIERRA OBASI.
I AM THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE.
THIS MEMO PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW AND ANALYSIS OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ARREST ACTIVITY AND DEEP EL FROM JANUARY, 2025 THROUGH JULY 31ST, 2025.
UTILIZING THIS DATA CATEGORIZED UNDER THE NATIONAL, THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASE REPORTING SYSTEM.
THIS REPORT OUTLINES TRENDS AND YEAR OVER YEAR COMPARISONS TO SUPPORT THIS ANALYSIS.
THE REPORT HIGHLIGHTS TWO GE TWO KEY DATA POINTS FOR EACH OFFENSE CATEGORY COUNT DIFFERENCE, WHICH IS THE RAW NUMERICAL DIFFERENCE IN ARREST BETWEEN COMPARABLE TIME PERIODS FROM YEAR TO DATE, 2025 VERSUS YEAR TO DATE, 2020 4% CHANGE, WHICH IS THE RELATIVE INCREASE IN RED OR DECREASE IN GREEN OVER THE SAME PERIOD ILLUSTRATING THE RATE OF CHANGE.
THE FOLLOWING METRICS PROVIDE A BREAKDOWN OF ARRESTEE DEMOGRAPHICS AND CATEGORIZE THE VARIOUS TYPES OF ARRESTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN DEEP A.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FOLLOWING DATA IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TYPE OF ARREST MADE IN DEEP EL, NOT NECESSARILY THE OFFENSE COMMITTED IN DEEP A FOR VIOLENT CRIMES.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A PERCENT CHANGE GREATER THAN A HUNDRED PERCENT BETWEEN JULY OF 2024 AND JULY OF 2025.
AND A 22% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN YEARS 2024 AND 2025 FOR NONVIOLENT CRIMES.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS AND 82.05% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN JULY, 2024 AND JULY, 2025 AND A 6.92% CHANGE DECREASE BETWEEN YEARS 2024 AND YEARS 2025 FOR VIOLENT AND NONVIOLENT CRIMES COMBINED.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS AN 88 POINT 89% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN JULY, 2024 AND JULY OF 2025 AND A 3.84% CHANGE DECREASE BETWEEN YEARS 2024 AND 2025 FOR CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A 66.67% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN JULY, 2024 AND JULY, 2025.
AND A 4.55% CHANGE DECREASE BETWEEN YEARS 2024 AND 2025 FOR CRIMES AGAINST PERSON.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A 100% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN JULY OF 2024 AND JULY OF 2025 AND A 10% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN YEARS 2024 AND 2025 FOR CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A 22.22% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN JULY OF 2024, JULY OF 2225, AND AT 83.9 96% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN YEARS 2024 AND 2025 FOR CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, PERSON AND SOCIETY.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A 9.76% CHANGE, DECREASE BETWEEN JULY 24TH AND JULY, 2025.
AND A 18 POINT 48% CHANGE DECREASE BETWEEN YEARS 2024 AND 2025 FOR THE TOTAL OF CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, PERSON AND SOCIETY.
THE N-I-B-R-S REPORTS A 9.09% CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN JULY OF 24, 20 24 AND JULY OF 2025 AND A 9.25 TOTAL PERCENT CHANGE INCREASE BETWEEN YEARS OF 2024 AND 2025.
AND FOR MORE DETAILED REVIEW, THERE IS ATTACHED DATA TO THIS MEMO THAT PROVIDES A MORE DETAILED REVIEW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. OUI, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
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NOW LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS REPORT.JUST, UH, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES.
I WANNA GIVE YOU THE FLOOR FIRST IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT THIS SINCE IT WAS YOUR REQUEST.
AND, UH, FOLLOWING BOARD MEMBER MAPLES, IF ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL ADDRESS THOSE ACCORDINGLY.
UM, THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU SIERRA AND AND TEAM FOR, UM, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
IT, IT, UH, IT SHINES A LIGHT ON SOME OF THE DATA THAT I REQUESTED.
IT, UH, IT BRINGS TO LIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I ALREADY UNDERSTOOD.
AND, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, SAY THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS AT THIS TIME REGARDING THIS REPORT? IT, IT APPEARS THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MS. OBSU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
SEEING THERE'S NO MORE, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS THE ATTORNEY INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION REPORT.
AND THE CHAIR, UH, WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MAJOR JUAN TO COME.
AND I HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, WATCH LAST MEETING, WHICH VICE CHAIR DID A GREAT JOB OF FACILITATING.
AND, UH, I ALSO KNOW IT WAS MAJOR GREER'S, UH, FINAL MEETING AS THE I-A-D-I-A-D CHIEF.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT ALSO OVERSHADOWED OUR CHANCE TO THANK YOU FOR BEING IN THIS ROLE.
AND SO I WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME YOU ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD IN THIS IMPORTANT ROLE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UH, WE ARE SO ENCOURAGED THAT WE HAVE HAD A REALLY GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH IAD THE LAST, UH, YEAR.
UH, AND I'M CONFIDENT IN TALKING TO THE DIRECTOR THAT THIS WILL CONTINUE WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THIS ROLE.
SO, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, PLEASE EXTEND OUR DEEPEST, UH, WELCOME FOR THIS ROLE.
WE'RE HAPPY THAT YOU'RE HERE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK ALONGSIDE YOU FOR THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR, UH, TO SHARE ANYTHING PERTINENT FROM YOUR OFFICE, UH, TO US AS THE BOARD.
AND THERE'LL BE A TIME FOLLOWING MAJOR SILAS'S PRESENTATION FOR THE BOARD TO ASK ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
MR. SILAS, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY.
I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU WERE NOT PRESENT LAST TIME I WAS HERE, SO LET, IF YOU ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
FORMERLY, MY NAME IS GONZALEZ AND I HAVE PROUDLY SERVED THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR OVER 29 YEARS.
OVER NEARLY THREE DECADES, I HAVE WORN MANY HATS.
I HAVE SERVED AS THE DPD LIAISON TO CITY HALL.
I HAVE COMMANDED TWO PATROL DIVISIONS, SOUTHWEST AND NORTHWEST.
I'VE OVER COMMANDED THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT INVESTIGATES CHILD ABUSE, EXPLOITATION, AND FAMILY VIOLENCE.
AND THROUGH EVERY SINGLE, UH, ASSIGNMENT THAT I HAVE BEEN, ONE THING IS CONSTANT, MY BELIEF THAT POLICING ISN'T JUST ABOUT OF PORTION THE LAW.
IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING TRUST, TRUST BETWEEN OFFICERS AND THE COMMUNITY, OR WE SERVE EACH ONE OF US AS A COMMUNITY AND ALSO IS THE FOUNDATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
WITHOUT IT, EVEN THE BEST POLICIES OR EVEN THE, UH, CRIME FIGHTING TACTICS FALL SHORT.
SO I STAND BEFORE US A LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONAL, BUT ALSO AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, AS A FATHER NEIGHBOR MAN OF FAITH, AND A SERVANT LEADER.
I HAVE WITNESSED HOW OVER THREE DECADES THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED TOGETHER AS, UH, ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER.
I HAVE SEEN COMPASSION SHINE TO TRAGEDY, SUCH AS SEVEN, SEVEN.
IN 2016, I HAVE SEEN RESILIENCE GROW OUT OF PAIN.
AND IN ALL OF IT, I HAVE LEARNED THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS STRONGEST WHEN IT'S BUILT AROUND ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY, AND MUTUAL RESPECT.
THIS OVERSIGHT PLAYS A VERY VITAL ROLE.
SO I'M VERY HUMBLED TO SERVE ALONG YOU, AND I'LL GIVE YOU MY WORD THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO DO AS MAJOR GERE WAS DOING.
I KNOW THAT HE LEFT SOME VERY BIG SHOES.
I WAS TOLD LAST TIME I WAS HERE.
UH, BUT I WILL DO MY VERY BEST TO DO THAT.
I'M ALSO VERY PROUD OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO PUT THIS UNIFORM EACH DAY.
AND I'M EQUALLY PROUD OF THE COMMUNITY WE HOLD THAT HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE.
BOTH ARE NECESSARY, BOTH ARE VITAL, AND TOGETHER WE CAN MAKE DALLAS SAFER
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AND STRONGER.WITH THAT IN MIND, I AM PLEASED TO REPORT THAT LAST FRIDAY, UH, WE ARE GETTING TWO NEW DETECTIVES TO COME ABOARD THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
AND I'M ALSO SADDENED TO REPORT THAT ON AUGUST 16TH, UH, THE IED DIVISION LOST A VALUE.
MEMBER TINA FERRIS PASSED AWAY DUE TO SOME HEALTH ISSUES.
UH, SHE WAS, UH, AN ADMINISTRATIVE SPECIALIST IN CHARGE OF THE OPEN RECORDS AND SHE'LL BE, UH, MISSED BY OUR UNIT.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO ANY OF THOSE TRAININGS, I ENCOURAGE EACH ONE OF YOU MEMBERS TO ATTEND THOSE TRAININGS.
UH, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO, TO DO RIDE ALONGS, PLEASE DO SO.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO OUR OFFICE, I WELCOME YOU TO REACH OUT TO ME AND I CAN GIVE YOU A TOUR OF THE HEADQUARTERS AND ALSO THE IED UH, INVESTIGATION UNIT CHAIR.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
AND AGAIN, WE WELCOME YOU AND LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR WORKING RELATIONSHIP.
WANNA OPEN UP TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME, UH, FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD? BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN HAD A GOOD IDEA.
AND, AND, UM, AS A WAY TO ORGAN ORGANIZE, ONE WAY TO ORGANIZE HOW WE, UH, TALK TO GUESTS AND PRESENTERS IS, UH, TO START BY SENIORITY AND WORK DOWN.
AND SO HAVE A LIST HERE, UH, AND ALSO TO HONOR, UH, SOME OF OUR MEMBERS WHO'VE BEEN HERE, UH, WHILE.
UM, WE'LL GO DOWN AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, YOU CAN USE THIS TIME.
IF NOT, YOU CAN JUST SAY THERE'S NO NEED FOR COMMENT OR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
I WANNA BEGIN WITH VICE CHAIR SMITH.
ANY QUESTIONS OR FOR MAJOR SALAS? NONE AT THIS TIME, BUT THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER KITNER, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, I DO WELCOME YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, I'M TRANSITIONING OFF.
I'M TERM LIMITED AS ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE, BUT, UM, I'M BE WATCHING AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO YOU DOING A GREAT JOB.
BOARD MEMBER DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.
UH, ALSO, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, BUT I WELCOMED YOU LAST MONTH AND I WISH I WAS STAYING ON THE BOARD SO I COULD LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
UH, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT WELCOME.
BOARD MEMBER BRENDAN FRIEDMAN.
UH, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, MR. CHAIR, BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
UH, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT ONCE AGAIN, WHEN I CAME ON I SAW THAT, UH, YOUR ENTITY FROM A SCREEN AND IT WAS KIND OF ALIENATED FROM WHAT I FELT.
BUT AS YOU GUYS STARTED COMING IN, I FELT MORE, UH, PLEASED TO HAVE YOU WORKING WITH US AND WE WORKING WITH YOU.
SO IT'S GONNA BE GOOD WORKING WITH YOU.
BOARD MEMBER BRIAN B NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
I WAS ON VIRTUALLY LAST TIME, BUT NICE TO MEET YOU IN PERSON.
BOARD MEMBER JUDGE C VICTOR LANDER.
NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, BUT AS EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING, WELCOME.
I HAD A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH MAJOR GREER.
AND UH, I SINCERELY HOPE THAT I HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU.
WE'RE AVAILABLE JUST AS YOU ARE.
BOARD MEMBER JENNY KING, THANK YOU, AND BOARD MEMBER TIMOTHY JACKSON.
SEEING, THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE HERE INTO YOUR ENTIRE TEAM, INCLUDING DEPUTY CHIEF AL CELEBRITY SIGHTING.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AS WELL.
UH, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE ALL OF YOU HERE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAJOR FOR BEING HERE.
MAY I JUST MAKE ONE FURTHER COMMENT? UM, I THINK IT SAYS A LOT AND I DO APPRECIATE PERSONALLY, AND I THINK THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS DO AS WELL TO HAVE SO MANY OF YOUR PEOPLE HERE.
UM, IT SENDS A GOOD MESSAGE TO ME AND TO THE OTHERS, I BELIEVE.
AND I HOPE YOU CONTINUE THAT PRACTICE.
SEEING THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT STAFF REPORT.
WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADO, ITEM A IS THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE DIRECTOR OF THE OCPO FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AS I MARKED MY FIRST YEAR AS DIRECTOR AND POLICE MONITOR, I WANT TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO REFLECT ON WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED TOGETHER.
UM, THIS, THIS YEAR WE'VE LAID A STRONG FOUNDATION FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE LAUNCHED A HUNDRED DAY PLAN, UM, CREATED A TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY DASHBOARD,
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DESIGNED OUR WEBSITE AND OPEN THE 24 7 COMPLAINT HOTLINE, ENSURING THAT DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE A CLEAR AND ACCESSIBLE WAY TO ENGAGE WITH OVERSIGHT ON THE COMMUNITY SIDE.OUR TEAM ATTENDED 94 EVENTS, UM, TRANSLATED FORMS INTO SEVEN LANGUAGES, AND BEGIN PUBLISHING THE OCPO NEWSLETTER.
THESE EFFORTS ARE ABOUT MORE THAN NUMBERS.
THEY'RE ABOUT ENSURING EVERY RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THIS OFFICE IS HERE TO LISTEN AND SERVE.
FROM AN O OVERSIGHT PERSPECTIVE, WE'VE REVIEWED MORE THAN 1200 COMPLAINTS, CONDUCTED SIX INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, MONITORED CRITICAL INCIDENTS, AND THEN ISSUED NINE P UM, POLICY RECOMMENDATION.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE LOGGED OVER 125 ACCOMMODATION FOR OFFICERS PROFESSIONALISM BECAUSE ACCOUNTABILITY ALSO MEANS RECOGNIZING WHEN OFFICERS GET IT RIGHT.
NONE OF THIS WOULD'VE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT OVER INCREDIBLE OCPO OF STAFF AND THE PARTNERSHIP OF THIS BOARD AND INTERNAL AFFAIRS.
MANY OF YOU HAVE SHARED KIND WORDS AS MY ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY.
UM, AND I'M GRATEFUL YOUR SUPPORTS, UM, STRENGTHENS OUR RESOLUTE TO KEEP PUSHING FORWARD.
EVEN AS WE FACE CHALLENGES LIKE FUNDING PRESSURES AND THE ONGOING NEED TO BUILD TRUST CITYWIDE.
I'M PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED TOGETHER AND MORE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT LIES AHEAD.
EXPANDING MEDIATION, DEEPENING OUTREACH, AND CONTINUING TO IMPROVE OVERSIGHT IN DALLAS.
IT IS AN HONOR TO SERVE AS YOUR DIRECTOR AND POLICE MONITOR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUST, COLLABORATION, AND COMMITMENT TO THIS IMPORTANT MISSION.
STAFF AND I ATTENDED, UM, AUGUST BUDGET TOWN HALL, UM, TOWN HALLS, BUT DISTRICT 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, AND 14, AS WELL AS SOME CITYWIDE MEETING, UM, WE'RE PROJECTED, UM, TO BE BUDGETED, UM, FOR 20 25, 20 26 AT 6 73, 8 36.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE, UM, I WE'RE OPTIMIZING RESOURCE AND REALIGNING 32,000 780 78, WHICH WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON STAFFING LEVELS AND OPERATIONAL NEEDS AS OF TODAY.
I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED, UM, THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THIS.
AND A COPY OF THE FULL PROPOSED BUDGET WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR BINDER LAST MONTH.
IN REGARDS TO P UM, PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR THIS YEAR, I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UM, FOR COMPLAINT, RESOLUTION RATE GOAL WAS 70%.
UM, INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION COMPLETED 85%.
THIS IS INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION COMPLETED THAT HAS BEEN CALLED BY THE BOARD.
WE'VE ACHIEVED A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO FIVE OUTTA FIVE THAT WAS VOTED ON HAS BEEN CONCLUDED.
AND, UM, AN UPCOMING, UM, PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR POLICY, THE NUMBER OF DBD POLICY REVIEWED ANNUALLY.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY AT NINE FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, THAT'S GONNA BE A NEW PERFORMANCE MEASURE FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE ACCOMMODATION REACH, UM, RECEIVE IS 125.
TOTAL NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS IS 1,202 SEVEN, REFERRED TO PUBLIC INTEGRITY UNIT 41, UM, IED INVESTIGATION, A HUNDRED DIVISION REFERRALS 899, NO INVESTIGATION WARRANTED.
AND THEN 155 PENDING REVIEW BY OUR OFFICES.
UM, MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS ON ARRESTS AND COMPLAINTS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS.
I WANTED TO ALSO HIGHLIGHT AS FAR AS OPERATIONAL, I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO DRAFT A STANDARD OPERATE AND PROCEDURAL OCPO, AND I'M PLEASED TO SHARE THE FINAL DRAFT WITH YOU AS OUR OVERSIGHT PARTNER.
PLEASE REVIEW THE SOPI SHARED WITH YOU ON SEPTEMBER 5TH AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THE PHYSICAL SHARED, UM, FSS, WHICH PROVIDES BUDGET AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
AS A RESULT, OCPO COMPLAINT INTAKE SPECIALIST KIMONA RUSSELL WILL TAKE OVER THESE DUTIES.
HER ROLE WILL BE RECLASSIFIED INTO EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT, STARTED IN OCTOBER 1ST.
SHE'S CURRENTLY BEING TRAINED FOR THIS NEW ROLE, SENIOR RE SPECIALIST AM PEREZ REPORT SCHEDULE.
LATER ON THE AGENDA, WE'LL COVER OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STARTING, UM, FROM AUGUST 12TH.
MS. PEREZ WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW, OUR YEAR END COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BY DISTRICT.
WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE TO REDESIGN, UM, THE ACCOMMODATION AND COMPLAINT FORMS, THE ONLINE FORMS, AND TO LAUNCH AN ONLINE INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUEST FORM.
THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY DASHBOARD
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WILL BE PRESENTED TENTATIVELY AT THE OCTOBER PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING.AND THEN AT THIS TIME, I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR OUTGOING ME MEMBERS, DAVID KITNER, AS WELL AS DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, UM, FOR THEIR DEDICATED SERVICE TO COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
AND THE ENGAGEMENT, UM, ON THIS BOARD WILL BE MISSED.
OUR GOAL WAS TO COMPLETE A RIDE ALONG EAST PATROL DIVISION.
STAFF AND I COMPLETED A RIDE ALONG AT THE NORTHEAST PATROL DIVISION.
UM, WE WERE REMINDED THERE'S SEVEN PATROL DIVISIONS.
SO WE'RE SCHEDULED TO, UH, RIDE ALONG FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL DIVISION ON SEPTEMBER 9TH AND SEPTEMBER 26TH.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR TODAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, DIRECTOR ANDRE.
AND AGAIN, I WANNA PUBLICLY CONGRATULATE YOU ON ONE YEAR OF SERVICE HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UH, YOU HAVE MADE THIS CITY BETTER AND STRONGER.
YOU'VE, UH, CONTRIBUTED TO CITIZENS BEING SAFER AND HEARD.
AND I THINK IF YOU LIST OUT ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE THIS YEAR, UH, I THINK WE GET TIRED READING IT ALL 'CAUSE YOU'VE BEEN VERY BUSY.
UH, BUT I WANTED TO JUST THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, BUT ALSO OPEN UP TO THE BOARD THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS DIRECTED TOWARDS DIRECTOR MICHELLE ANDRE.
CHAIRMAN, SINCE THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR CHANGING THIS BOARD, UPGRADING THIS BOARD, AND WORKING SO HARD TO MAKE THIS BOARD A SUCCESS.
I THINK WE WERE IN HELL BEFORE YOU CAME EVERY MONTH.
IT WAS SOME CONTENTIOUS BATTLE.
WE GOT NO INFORMATION, LIES, ARGUMENTS.
AND IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING WITH YOU ON THIS BOARD FOR THE LAST YEAR.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS DIRECTED TO DIRECTOR MICHELLE ANDRE? YES, MR. KITNER.
I JUST WANNA SAY, I THINK BACK A LITTLE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO WHEN, UH, I WAS HONORED TO BE ON THE GROUP FROM THIS BOARD THAT INTERVIEWED THE FINALISTS.
THEY WERE ALL GOOD CANDIDATES, BUT IN MY MIND AND THE MINDS OF OTHERS, ONE STOOD OUT ABOVE ALL OTHERS.
AND FORTUNATELY, THE CITY MANAGER TO US.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE MS. ANDRE HERE AS OUR DIRECTOR.
AND, AND IN MY MIND, SHE JUST, LIKE DR. GILBERT, UH, SAID, UM, HAS REALLY CHANGED THIS BOARD.
IT HAS, UM, FOCUS, UM, IT HAS COHESION TO IT.
UM, UH, IT'S JUST SO MUCH BETTER IN SO MANY WAYS.
SHE'S MADE GREAT HIRES FOR HER STAFF.
UH, THEY ARE AS GOOD OR BETTER THAN ANY THAT WE EVER HAD BEFORE.
SO THIS IS A, A GREAT TIME FOR THE BOARD AND, UM, I THINK IT WILL GET EVEN BETTER.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND MANY GOOD THINGS TO HAPPEN.
SEEING THERE'S NO MORE, NO MORE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM B UNDER AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR REPORT.
THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO INVITE.
WOULD OCPO INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF, UH, TO THE STAND? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
UH, TO BEGIN WITH, FIRST A BRIEFING FROM A CRITICAL INCIDENT, UH, THAT TOOK PLACE.
I'M THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR FOR THE OFFICE.
UH, THIS IS, UH, WE HAD ONE CRITICAL INCIDENT SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.
LIKE YOU SAID, THIS OCCURRED ON AUGUST 27TH.
IT WAS A CALL REFERENCE, A SUBJECT WHO WAS, UH, THREATENING TO HARM HIMSELF AND THREATENING TO HARM OTHERS INSIDE A RESIDENCE.
HE ENDED UP BARRICADING HIMSELF INSIDE THAT RESIDENCE WITH A LARGE KNIFE.
AND THE SWAT TEAM HAD TO BE CALLED.
AND WE CAN SEE A BODY-WORN CAMERA VIDEO HERE OF THE INCIDENT.
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DROP IT DOWN, MAN.WHO ELSE IS IN THE HOUSE? WHO ELSE IS IN THE HOUSE? COME OVER HERE.
ALL, UH, JUST STRIP HIM LAYING FLAT.
AT THIS TIME, UH, WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
UNDERSTANDING THIS IS A, IT'S UNDER INVESTIGATION SO THAT I'M SURE THERE ARE CERTAIN QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE UNABLE TO BE ANSWERED.
UH, BUT, UH, IF THERE'S ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING POLICY PROCEDURE, UM, INVESTIGATOR HUFF IS THERE, AND ALSO, UH, WE
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HAVE IED PRESENT AS WELL.UM, AND I DO KNOW THAT, UH, ONCE THE INVESTIGATION IS CON COMPLETE, THE OCPO WILL PROVIDE A FULL REPORT FOR THE BOARD, UH, FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS INCIDENT.
BUT I WANTED TO OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
ANY QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS, UH, THIS PARTICULAR CRITICAL INCIDENT? MR. CHAIRMAN ASKED QUESTIONS? YES.
MR. FRIEDMAN? UH, BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14.
UM, MR. HUFF, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ON SITE? I DO NOT KNOW THAT.
UH, DO WE KNOW WHY THEY CALLED THE SWAT TEAM? OR WHY, WHY A SWAT TEAM WAS CALLED IN FOR A SUICIDAL INDIVIDUAL.
UH, THE SUBJECT RETREATED BACK INTO THE HOUSE.
HE SAW THAT FIRST VIDEO THAT WAS JUST THE POLICE ARRIVING AT, AT FIRST, AND HE RETREATED BACK INTO THE HOUSE WITH A KNIFE AND THEY'RE UN UNABLE TO MAKE CONTACT WITH HIM INSIDE THE HOUSE.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE? UM, THAT I DO NOT KNOW, BECAUSE I'M JUST, EVERYTHING I, I'VE READ AND SEEN, I'M WONDERING WHY THIS GUY'S DEAD.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK WITH A IED REPRESENTATIVE POTENTIALLY? UM, OR DEPUTY CHIEF.
UH, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEF.
MONIQUE, ALEX RIGHTCARE WAS ON SCENE, SIR.
UM, THERE WERE NO OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE HOUSE BESIDES THAT, UH, INDIVIDUAL.
SO, SO THEN MY QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, IF THERE WERE NO IN OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE HOUSE, WHAT WAS THE RUSH? WHAT WAS THE NEED TO SEND A SWAT TEAM IN TO GET HIM, UH, RESPECT THE POLICE? THERE WAS NO RUSH.
THIS STARTED AT, I BELIEVE ABOUT 7 30, 8 O'CLOCK.
DON'T HOLD ME TO THE TIME, BUT SWAT DIDN'T GET IN THERE UNTIL ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE HOURS LATER.
UM, AND IS IT, IS IT STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE TO TASE SOMEONE WHO APPEARS TO BE SLEEPING? WHAT YOU DIDN'T SEE IN THAT VIDEO IS INITIAL VIDEO RELEASE.
YOU HEAR THE, UH, SWAT OFFICER INDICATE THAT HE STILL HAD THE KNIFE IN HIS HAND.
UM, WE HAD ACTUALLY USED DEPLOYED GAS, THE ROBOTS AND DRONES.
SO THEY WERE, UH, WEREN'T SURE IF HE WAS ACTUALLY ASLEEP OR NOT.
BUT IF YOU PAUSE IT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE, THE, UH, OFFICERS INDICATE THAT HE STILL HAS THE KNIFE IN HIS HAND.
UM, I, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT THERE.
IT, IF THERE'S A PERSON ALONE IN A HOME, UM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE COULD BE A BETTER WAY TO GET THEM.
YOU SAID THEY, THEY HAD USED GAS IF THEY TRIED TO GET 'EM OUT WITH GAS? YES, SIR.
AND THAT HAD NO EFFECT? NO, SIR.
UH, THIS, THIS JUST SEEMED VERY UNFORTUNATE TO ME.
THERE'S SOMEBODY ALONE IN THE HOUSE AND THERE WAS NO BETTER WAY TO GET 'EM OUT.
UM, I AM NOT A POLICE OFFICER.
UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA GRILL YOU TOO HARD ON THOSE DETAILS.
UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THIS, THIS INDIVIDUAL HAD TO BE, UM, SHOT IN THAT SITUATION.
BEFORE ANY, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS WE WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE BOARD MEMBER CHUNGA HIGGINS IS PRESENT ONLINE, UH, FOR THE, UH, MEETING MINUTES THAT HE'S PRESENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBER BODY, DO YOU HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? YES, MR. MAPLES? YEAH.
HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS TOOK PLACE.
I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? I'M LOOKING AT THE REPORT.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT TELLS ME WHERE IT TOOK PLACE.
OH, WAS IT, I MEAN, I KNOW THE HOME, BUT WHERE IT WAS THE 13,000 BLOCK OF FAR HILLS LANE, FAR FAR HILLS, FAR, FAR.
THANK YOU'S ALL I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD SEEN? THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS.
UH, WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO THE REPORT FROM THE OCPO OFFICE WHEN THE INVESTIGATION CONCLUDES.
AND I THANK YOU DEPUTY CHIEF ALSO FOR CLARIFYING SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO ITEM TWO B UNDER AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUEST.
THIS TIME THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE OCPO INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF TO DISCUSS WITH THE BOARD CASE NUMBER NI 2025 DASH OH 5 5 2.
AND WE AS A BOARD, AFTER HEARING HIS PRESENTATION AND AFTER A TIME OF DISCUSSION, WE WILL VOTE AS A BOARD ON WHETHER WE WOULD LIKE THE OCPO TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
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INVESTIGATOR HUFF THE FLOOR IS YOURS.WE ARE UNABLE TO PROCEED WITH THAT INVESTIGATION OR THAT REQUEST BECAUSE AFTER THE AGENDA WAS PUBLISHED, WE DETERMINED THAT THE, UH, COMPLAINANT WAS A CITY EMPLOYEE, WHICH PRECLUDES US FROM LOOKING INTO HIS COMPLAINT.
UH, JUST SO I'M AWARE, BEING A CITY EMPLOYEE, THERE'S SOME LIMITATIONS ON WHAT CAN BE DISCUSSED.
WHY, WHY DOES THAT NECESSITATE US? NOT TALKING ABOUT IT, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY.
OH, IT'S, IT'S IN THE CITY CODE THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO LOOK INTO, UM, INTERNAL COMPLAINTS AND A CITY EMPLOYEE WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN INTERNAL COMPLAINT.
UM, WELL, IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THAT, UH, IS ALL WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT INVESTIGATOR HUFF.
SO, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE NEXT MEETING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INVESTIGATIONS THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW THAT ARE, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD CAN BE ANTICIPATING FOR THE UPCOMING MEETINGS? YEAH, I'M WORKING ON INVESTIGATION RIGHT NOW.
THAT SHOULD BE READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO, TO THAT INVESTIGATION REPORT.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE B, AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS THE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS.
AND IF YOU WERE TO LOOK IN THE BOARD PACKETS PREPARED FOR EACH OF YOU, UH, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THESE REPORTS THAT ARE PROVIDED.
UH, YOU HAVE THE AUGUST DPD MONTHLY ARREST BY COUNCIL DISTRICT REPORTS, AND UNDER THAT ARE SEVERAL CATEGORIES THAT ARE PROVIDED IN YOUR BOARD PACKET.
AND ALSO WE HAVE THE AUGUST EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINTS REPORTS.
SO LET'S GIVE THE THE BOARD SOME TIME RIGHT NOW TO, UH, LOOK OVER THAT.
AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, YOU'LL HAVE SOME TIME TO DIRECT THOSE TO THE OCPO OFFICE AND, UH, THEY CAN ANSWER ACCORDINGLY.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME REGARDING THESE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS? IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
AND, UH, OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE READING THIS LATER AND A QUESTION EMERGES, UH, THE, I KNOW THE OFFICE WILL BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, AND SO ABOUT THIS TIME, WE'LL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM LETTER C UNDER AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS THE POLICY ANALYST REPORT.
AND THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE OCPO POLICY ANALYST SIERRA OB FLOOR IS YOURS.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS SIERRA OBSU.
I AM THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE.
I'LL GIVE A LEGISLATIVE UPDATE AND THEN I WILL GO INTO HOUSE BILL 15 ANALYSIS.
ON FRIDAY, AUGUST 15TH, 2025, GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT ANNOUNCED THE SECOND SPECIAL SESSION OF THE 89TH TEXAS LEGISLATURE, WHICH ADJOURNED THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4TH.
MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATOR HAD 30 DAYS TO ADDRESS THE PRIORITIES SET BY GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S AGENDA.
ONE OF THE PRIORITIES ON THE AGENDA RELATED TO CERTAIN FILES MAINTAINED BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY REGARDING CERTAIN EMPLOYEES OF THE AGENCY.
THIS WAS FILED AS HOUSE BILL 15 DURING THE SECOND SPECIAL SESSION.
HOUSE BILL 15 AIMS TO ESTABLISH CLEAR GUIDELINES REGARDING THE MAINTENANCE, ACCESSIBILITY, AND CONFIDENTIALITY OF DEPARTMENTAL FILES CONTAINING INFORMATION RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT LICENSE HOLDERS.
HB 15 DEFINES A DEPARTMENT FILE AS A RECORD MAINTAINED BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY FOR EACH LICENSE HOLDER.
IT EMPLOYS THE HEAD OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR A DESIGNEE MUST MAINTAIN A DEPARTMENT FILE SEPARATE FROM THE PERSONNEL FILES MAINTAIN UNDER EXISTING POLICIES IN TEXAS.
OCCUPATION CODE SECTION 1701 0.4535.
THE DEPARTMENT FILE INCLUDES LETTERS, MEMOS, OR DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THE LICENSE HOLDER THAT
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ARE NOT INCLUDED IN A PERSONNEL FILE, SUCH AS RECORDS OF ALLEGED MISCONDUCT, WHERE INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE EXISTS TO SUSTAIN A CHANGE, A CHARGE OF MISCONDUCT ACCESS TO DEPARTMENT FILES ONLY INCLUDES LAW ENFORCEMENT HIRING AGENCIES.THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT DURING INVESTIGATIONS FILES ARE SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE UNDER LEGAL EXCEPTIONS SUCH AS ARTICLE 39 14 OF THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, WHICH IS DISCOVERY IN A CRIMINAL CASE, SECTION 5 1 1 0.02, ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, WHICH IS INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS OF DEATHS OCCURRING IN COUNTY JAILS AND ONLY AS REQUIRED BY LAW, WHICH MEANS ACCESS CAN ONLY BE GRANTED IF IT IS EXPLICITLY MANDATED BY LAW.
HB 15 CLASSIFIES DEPARTMENT FILES AS CONFIDENTIAL AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO PUBLIC DISCLOSURE UNDER THE TEXAS PUBLIC INFORMATIONS ACT, EXCEPT AS PROVIDED BY THE PREVIOUS EXCEPTIONS.
IF ENACTED, HB 15 WOULD HAVE RESTRICTED THE SCOPE OF ACCESS TO OFFICER RELATED RECORDS.
SPECIFICALLY, IT WOULD HAVE PROHIBITED CERTAIN ACCESS TO RECORDS OF UNSUBSTANTIATED MISCONDUCT IF THE ENTITY IS NOT MANDATED OR REQUIRED BY LAW TO ACCESS THE CONTENTS OF A DEPARTMENT FILE AND WITHOUT A PATH FOR PUBLIC ACCESS ON SEPTEMBER 2ND.
THE HOUSE AND SENATE DID NOT REACH AN AGREEMENT ON THE FINAL VERSION OF HB 15.
SO THE BILL WAS SENT TO A CONFERENCE COMMITTEE DESPITE EFFORTS TO RECONCILE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE CHAMBERS, NO COMPROMISE WAS REACHED AND THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE REPORT WAS REJECTED IN THE HOUSE BY A VOTE OF 60 TO 71.
AS A RESULT, HB 15 DID NOT ADVANCE IN IS CONSIDERED DEBT.
THANK YOU, AND I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. ELBASO, YOU APPRECIATE THE UPDATE ON BOTH, UH, THE 89TH TEXAS LEGISLATOR AND ALSO HOUSE BILL 15.
I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR NEED FOR CLARIFICATION DIRECTED TOWARDS POLICY ANALYST SIERRA OBSU.
MR. MAPLES, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT, THAT'S REALLY TOUGH BECAUSE I MEAN, EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO, UM, THEIR INTERPRETATION OF WHAT YOU JUST READ, BUT ALL I HEAR IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY IMMUNITY, WHICH I KNOW IN MY SHORT LIFE THAT WILL ERODE ALL TRUST.
AND TRUST IS SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD HERE.
SO MAN, UM, I'M WILLING TO DO THE WORK TO FIGURE OUT A HAPPY MEDIUM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GUT PUNCH, ESPECIALLY KNOWING HOW THE GENTLEMAN WHO SITS STRAIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE I'M SITTING RIGHT NOW FEELS ABOUT THIS BOARD.
BUT AGAIN, I'M WILLING TO DO THE WORK, THAT'S ALL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUDGE LINDER? UM, DISTRICT EIGHT, WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATE OF THE LAW WITH RESPECT TO INVESTIGATIONS OF OFFICERS WHO HAVE NOT OTHERWISE BEING INVESTIGATED? COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT QUESTION FOR ME PLEASE? BASICALLY, MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WHAT IS THE LAW? HOW DOES THE LAW READ RIGHT NOW SINCE THIS BILL FAILED? ARE YOU, UM, REFERRING TO THE ORDINANCE OR THE LEGISLATION ITSELF? THE LEGISLATION? SO CURRENTLY THERE IS NOT A STANDARDIZED LAW.
IT IS, IT'S DEPENDENT ON THE, UM, TEXAS OCCUPATION CODE OR CIVIL, I'M SORRY, CIVIL SERVICE STRUCTURE THAT THAT CITY ENTITY DECIDES TO ENTER INTO.
SO TEXAS, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 1 43 AND I BELIEVE WE ARE UNDER 1 47.
SO IT'S DEPENDENT ON THAT WHICH CITY ENTERS INTO WHICH CODE OR CIVIL SERVICE OFFICER.
MY BASIC QUESTION IS TO BE A BIT MORE SPECIFIC.
IF A POLICE OFFICER OR IF SOMEONE APPLIES TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER WHO HAS DONE DIRTY
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DEEDS IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, HOW DOES THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT FIND OUT ABOUT THOSE DIRTY DEEDS? UM, FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, IT SHOULD BE IN THEIR RESUME.UM, I BELIEVE I'LL ASK THE QUESTION.
YEAH,
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR.
THANK YOU, CHIEF, YOU KNEW I WAS COMING.
EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT CHIEF, MONIQUE CALLICK.
SO CURRENTLY WHEN A LICENSED OFFICER APPLIES FOR DPD, UM, IF THEY'RE IN TEXAS OR OUTTA STATE, WE ACTUALLY SEND A BACKGROUNDER TO THAT AGENCY TO REVIEW THEIR IED FILE.
IF THERE IS ANY EVIDENCE OF MISCONDUCT IN THEIR PREVIOUS, UH, AGENCY, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT DISQUALIFY THE, THE OFFICER.
AND IF THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN INVESTIGATION, ALTHOUGH THERE HAVE BEEN ALLEGATIONS, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS, IF THERE WAS NOT AN INVESTIGATION, IF THERE'S NOT AN INVESTIGATION, BUT THERE HAD BEEN, SAY, QUIET ALLEGATIONS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? WE WOULD, WE WOULDN'T, IF THERE WAS NEVER AN ALLEGATION, IF THERE WASN'T AN INVESTIGATION.
IF THERE WAS NO INVESTIGATION, BUT AN ALLEGATION, YOU WOULD KNOW.
WE WOULD KNOW IF THEY DID AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION WITH THEIR PREVIOUS AGENCY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT.
YEAH, SO IF THERE, IF THERE WASN'T ONE WE WOULDN'T KNOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME REGARDING THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE? MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I ADD ONE CLARIFICATION? YES.
UM, IN THE LAW IT SAYS ONLY AS REQUIRED BY LAW, WHICH MEANS IF IT'S REQUIRED, MANDATED IN ANY LAW, SO FEDERAL, STATE, OR MUNICIPAL LAW, IF YOU ARE REQUIRED ACCESS, THEN THAT ACCESS IS GRANTED.
SO GIVEN THAT THAT'S STATED AND MANDATED WITHIN OUR ORDINANCE, WE WOULD'VE HAD ACCESS IF THIS BILL WERE TO PASS.
BUT SINCE IT HAS NOT PASSED, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT ACCESS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, WE STILL, WE STILL HAVE THE ACCESS.
EVEN IF THE BILL, IF THE BILL PASSED, WE WOULD'VE HAD ACCESS AND EVEN IF IT DIDN'T PASS, WE STILL HAVE ACCESS.
IT WOULD AFFECT THE PUBLIC'S ACCESS, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT THE OFFICE EITHER WAY WOULD'VE HAD STILL HAD ACCESS? CORRECT.
INCLUDING US, THE BOARD, LET KNOW.
SEEING THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE POLICY ANALYST, SIR, I HAD A QUESTION.
UH, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND.
UH, YES, THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE, SIR? UH, YES, IT WAS FOR, UH, ASSISTANT, UH, CHIEF.
UH, SHE SAID THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE MISCONDUCT IS, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO GET A, UH, SOME TYPE OF SUMMARY OF WHAT, UH, TYPE OF MISCONDUCT COULD, UH, WOULD NOT, WOULD NOT, UH, STOP AN APPLICANT FROM STILL BEING CONSIDERED WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SHE'S, UH, MAKING HER WAY DOWN HERE.
BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
THERE IS A DISQUALIFICATION CODES THAT WE UTILIZE AND WITHIN OUR PERSONNEL DIVISION THAT SPECIFIES WHAT WE CAN AND WHAT WE CAN'T, WHAT WE CAN DO.
I THINK I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK WE CAN SHARE OUR DISQUALIFIERS WITH THE BOARD.
I JUST HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT WITH YOU.
IT APPEARS THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING ANY LEGISLATIVE UPDATES, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
AND THANK YOU TO DEPUTY CHIEF FOR THOSE CLARIFYING STATEMENTS.
THE CHAIR WOULD NOW LIKE TO RECOGNIZE SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST MS. ALMA PEREZ TO COME, UH, AND SHARE THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND THE COMMUNITY.
LOVE TO HEAR YOUR UPDATE ON THE GOOD THINGS GOING ON.
ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS, UH, ALMA PEREZ, SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT'S RECENT AND UPCOMING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH EFFORTS IN AUGUST, OCPO STRENGTHENED ITS PRESENCE ACROSS
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DALLAS THROUGH ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN COMMUNITY EVENTS FOCUSED ON EDUCATION, SAFETY AND ADVOCACY.SO SOME OF OUR AUGUST HIGHLIGHTS, UM, BACK TO SCHOOL OUTREACH.
SO OCPO ATTENDED EVENTS ON AUGUST 2ND AT DALLAS COLLEGE, PLEASANT GROVE IN DISTRICT FIVE IN AUGUST 26 AT DALLAS COLLEGE, WEST DALLAS IN DISTRICT SI SIX DISTRIBUTING SUPPLIES AND SHARING RESOURCES WITH FAMILIES.
UM, ON AUGUST 9TH, UM, OUR, UM, BOARD MEMBER JENNY KING AND FROM DISTRICT 10 REPRESENTED THE BOARD AT THE SPARK IN THE PARK BACKPACK GIVEAWAY AT WILLIE B. JOHNSON RECREATION CENTER, ENGAGING OVER 200 ATTENDEES.
UM, THERE WAS A NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ON AUGUST 5TH AT MARCUS PARK RECREATION CENTER IN DISTRICT 13, WHERE WE JOINED NEIGHBORS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PROMOTE SAFETY AND COMMUNITY CONNECTION.
UM, I ALSO ATTENDED THE DALLAS CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER LUNCHEON ON AUGUST 6TH AT THE CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN CONFERENCE.
UM, I PARTICIPATED, UH, IN DISCUSSIONS ON CHILD PROTECTION AND ADVOCACY, UM, AND NETWORKED THERE.
UM, ALSO, UM, OUR DIRECTOR, ANDRE AND POLICY ANALYST SIERRA, UM, ALSO ON AUGUST 6TH, ATTENDED DALLAS WORKS IN INTERNSHIP CELEBRATION, HOSTED BY ALL STARS PROJECT, UM, IN WHICH THEY CELEBRATED YOUTH ACHIEVEMENT AND COMMUNITY INVESTMENT.
UM, SOME OF OUR SEPTEMBER ENGAGEMENTS ON THE 14TH, I'LL BE AT D-I-S-D-F JAM.
IT'S GONNA BE HOSTED AT CONRAD HIGH SCHOOL IN DISTRICT 13.
UM, I'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH FAMILIES AND STUDENTS AT THIS SCHOOL CENTERED EVENT ON SEPTEMBER 24TH.
UM, UH, THERE IS A COMMUNITY FAIR AT VALARA APARTMENTS.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S IN DISTRICT FOUR.
UM, BUT IT IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DALLAS POLICE, UH, ACT TEAM, WHICH IS THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY TEAM.
UM, AND WE'LL PROVIDE RESOURCES AND CONNECT DIRECTLY WITH RESIDENTS, UH, THERE.
OCTOBER 5TH IS THE FOURTH ANNUAL D LOLAS 5K CANCER AWARENESS WALK, AND IT'S ALSO A HEALTH AND SAFETY FAIR AT BACHMAN LAKE PARK IN DISTRICT SIX.
AND THIS IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NONPROFIT OLAS DALLAS UNIDOS, AND NORTHWEST PATROL DIVISION.
THIS WILL BE AN EVENT TO RAISE AWARENESS AND SUPPORT FOR THOSE AFFECTED BY CANCER, THE HEALTH AND SAFETY FAIR FOLLOWING.
UM, THE WALK WILL OFFER VITAL RESOURCES TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO OCPO REMAINS COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENCY, ENGAGEMENT, AND AMPLIFYING COMMUNITY VOICES.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS MOMENTUM IN THE MONTHS AHEAD.
AS ALWAYS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET INVOLVED OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR SENIOR OUTREACH DIRECTOR MS. ALMA PEREZ? YES, MR. MAPLES.
UM, I WANNA COMMEND YOU ON A JOB WELL DONE.
YOU'RE, YOU ARE, UH, AS, AS THE OLD FOLKS SAY, YOU'RE KICKING BUTT AND TAKING NAMES.
I, I, I, I'M, I'M A LITTLE PLEASANT IN THE WAY IT WAS GIVEN TO ME, BUT, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.
UM, THIS IS, WOW, THIS IS SEPTEMBER.
SO STARTING IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS, WE'LL HAVE MAJOR NATIONAL NIGHT, NATIONAL NIGHT OUT EVENTS ALL OVER, ALL OVER THE CITY.
I SENT YOU GUYS AN EMAIL WITH THE ONE FOR THE ONE IN ELM THICKETT.
UM, IT IS ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 7TH.
ELM THICKETT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SITS OVER, UH, BY LOVEFIELD AIRPORT.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO COME OUT, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO SO.
IT'S FROM ROUGHLY SIX TO EIGHT.
SO, UM, IF NOT, PLEASE TAKE PART IN THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT EVENTS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE THAT'S OUR CONNECTION.
OH, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ITEMS THAT OUR DIRECTOR, UM, ORDERED FOR THE BOARD.
SO IF YOU DO, UM, OR ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY NATIONAL NIGHT OUT EVENTS, WE HAVE, UM, SOME SWAG COMING, UM, FOR YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE OUT.
AND I SIGNED UP, UH, TO ATTEND THAT OCTOBER, BUT I'M SORRY YOU SIGNED UP FOR IT.
YEAH, BUT I, SINCE I WON'T BE ON THE BOARD, I GUESS I DON'T COME, I DON'T KNOW.
YOU CAN BE A BOARD MEMBER EMERITUS
AS A, AS A CANCER SURVIVOR, I WANTED TO BE THERE.
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OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. PEREZ? THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.WE APPRECIATE THIS IS, THIS WORK IS VITAL BECAUSE WE ARE A BOARD THAT REPRESENTS THE PEOPLE, THE COMMUNITY, AND FOR US TO BE OUT THERE AND TO SHARE THE NEWS OF WHAT WE DO AND WHAT THE SERVICE WE PROVIDE IT IS SO IMPORTANT.
AND WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
YES, THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO MY DIRECTOR ON HER ONE YEAR.
UM, I COULD TELL AS SOON AS I GOT HERE THAT SHE WAS DOING AMAZING WORK AND SHE'S DEDICATED AND SHE PUSHES US.
SO, UM, CONGRATULATIONS DIRECTOR.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUOUS WORK THAT WE WILL DO TOGETHER ON THIS TEAM.
SCENE, THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR MS. PEREZ.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NINE, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD REPORTS SLASH BRIEFINGS.
AND I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THINGS FOR ME.
AGENDA ITEM A ON THE CHAIRMAN'S REPORT.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I DO WANT TO THANK VICE CHAIR SMITH FOR A WONDERFUL JOB.
WELL DONE LAST MEETING, FACILITATING AND, UH, SERVING AS CHAIR AS A VERY FULL MEETING.
AND I THINK HE HANDLED IT SO WELL THAT, UM, I COULD TAKE MORE, MAKE MORE, TAKE MORE VACATIONS.
YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYBODY, YEAH, ANYWAY.
I JUST WANNA THANK HIM FOR, UH, HIS HARD WORK AND HIS PRESENCE.
UH, LAST, UH, LAST MEETING AND I KNOW, UH, WANTED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD AS WELL.
UH, THE CHIEF OF POLICE CUOMO, UH, THE BOARD HAD ASKED FOR THE CHIEF TO ATTEND THIS MONTH'S MEETING.
WHEN WE BEGAN COORDINATING WITH HIS OFFICE, IT, WE REALIZED THAT HE HAD A PRIOR CONFLICT ON THIS VERY DAY.
UH, AND WE, UH, THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, HE DID SAY HE WOULD BE AVAILABLE THE DAY AFTER LABOR DAY, SEPTEMBER 2ND.
AND, UH, I WORKED WITH THE OFFICE ADVISED CHAIR, AND I, UH, THOUGHT ABOUT SHOULD WE DO AN EMERGENCY SESSION THE 2ND OF SEPTEMBER.
BUT, UH, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE OFFICE, WE FELT THAT IT'D BE BEST FOR US TO BE PREPARED FOR HIS PRESENCE HERE AND NOT RUSH IT.
AND SO, UH, IT IS CONFIRMED THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE WILL BE AT OUR OCTOBER MEETING.
UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, AND I THANK HIM IN ADVANCE FOR HIS PRESENCE HERE.
AND, UH, THIS MEETING I THINK WILL BE SOME GOOD DIALOGUE, UH, BETWEEN US AND THE CHIEF.
AND, UH, ALL INDICATIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, DIRECTOR AND I, IS THAT, UH, UH, IT'D BE A GREAT CONVERSATION.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, MENTION THAT TO THE BOARD THAT, UH, THERE WAS A PRIOR CONFLICT.
BUT, UH, OCTOBER, UH, IT IS CONFIRMED, UH, THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE, UH, WILL BE HERE AT OUR MEETING.
I ALSO, UH, WANT TO EXTEND A PUBLIC STATEMENT OF GRATITUDE TO THE CITY MANAGER KIM TOLBERT, BECAUSE, UH, ALTHOUGH THIS IS BUDGET SEASON AND THERE WERE CUTS ACROSS THE BOARD, AND MANY PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, UM, HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS, UH, THERE IS NOT A SINGLE JOB WITHIN THE OCPO THAT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE OFFICE.
AND SO I REALLY WANNA THANK HER FOR PRESERVING THE BUDGET FOR THE OCPO THAT MAINTAINS THE CURRENT STAFF THAT WE HAVE.
I THINK THE BOARD WE'RE THRILLED WITH WHO WE HAVE ON THIS TEAM, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE CITY MANAGER FOR, UH, THE BUDGET THAT WAS PROVIDED TO CONTINUE, UH, THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF DIRECTOR ANDRE AND HER TEAM.
I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE, UH, PROPOSAL FROM THE CITY MANAGER, SORRY, FROM, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HAD, UH, INDICATED A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY ELIMINATE THE OCPO AND THE CPOB.
AND I JUST WANT TO, AS A CHAIR, AND I CAN ASSUME I SPEAK FOR THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT WE WOULD BE UNEQUIVOCALLY OPPOSED TO SUCH AN ACT.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A HUGE STEP BACKWARDS, UH, FOR THIS CITY, FOR THERE TO BE ANY PROPOSAL OR ANY ACT THAT WOULD ELIMINATE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO POLICING AND POLICE ACCESS.
AND THE OCPO AND THE CPOB ARE SERVICES TO THE CITY THAT SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED AND SHOULD BE MAINTAINED AND SHOULD BE SUPPORTED.
A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORICAL CONTEXT, UM, THE OCPO IN ITS CURRENT FORM WAS CREATED IN 2019, BUT WE STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF MANY PEOPLE WHO WORKED TIRELESSLY TO CREATE A BODY THAT WOULD BE A LISTENING EAR TO THE PEOPLE AND BE AC BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE.
THE, UH, WHAT IS NOW THE C-P-O-B-A VERSION OF IT WAS CREATED IN 1987 AFTER COMMUNITY ADVOCACY.
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WITHIN THE COMMUNITY FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.YOU SEE, IN THE 1980S AMONG LARGE CITIES, DALLAS HISTORICALLY HAD ONE OF THE HIGHEST POLICE INVOLVED FATALITY RATES.
AND THERE ARE HEROES OF THIS CITY THAT WORKED HARD TO CREATE A BOARD THAT WAS JUSTIFIED AND THAT WOULD BE LISTENED TO, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THESE COMPLAINTS.
THIS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER SUGGESTED THAT POTENTIALLY THE DOJ COULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE IF THE OCPO WAS ELIMINATED.
AND I JUST WANT TO, AT THIS POINT CLARIFY ANY MYTH OF REDUNDANCY BETWEEN THE TWO OFFICES BECAUSE BOTH SERVE IN DIFFERENT ROLES.
THE DOJ INVESTIGATES SYSTEMIC PATTERNS OF ABUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, EXCESSIVE FORCE DISCRIMINATORY POLICING.
THESE ARE BROAD, LONG TERM INVESTIGATIONS, OFTEN RESULTING IN CONSENT DECREES.
THE DOG, THE DOJ DOES NOT INTAKE OR RESOLVE INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN COMPLAINTS.
THE OCPO, THE CPOB, WE ARE AMONG THE PEOPLE WE'RE LOCAL.
WE PROVIDE LOCAL ACCESSIBLE, RESPONSIVE OVERSIGHT FOR INDIVIDUAL COMPLAINTS.
AND SO, UH, ANY IDEA THAT WHAT THE OCPO DOES, THE C THE CPOB, UH, COULD BE REPLACED BY THE D-O-G-D-O-J IS A MYTH AND IS NOT ACCESSIBLE OR POSSIBLE.
THE O-C-P-O-C-P-O-B ARE DISTINCT AND COMPLIMENTARY TO THE DOJ EFFORTS.
THE DOJ WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE VOLUME OF LOCAL COMPLAINTS IN DALLAS NEEDS ITS OWN SYSTEM.
SO I JUST WANNA SPEAK OUT LOUD.
OF COURSE, I DON'T THINK THIS HAS ANY MERIT OR THERE'S ANY WEIGHT BEHIND THIS PROPOSAL, BUT I WANT TO LET IT BE KNOWN THAT IF THIS CONTINUES, WE WILL BECOME LOUDER.
WE WILL SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT THIS BOARD AND THIS OFFICE PLAYS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ANY SORT OF RECOMMENDATION THAT IT SHOULD BE ELIMINATED IS AN INSULT TO THE HEROES OF THIS CITY WHO HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO GET TO THIS POINT WHERE EVERY CITIZEN OF DALLAS HAS ACCESS TO BE HEARD AND LISTENED TO, AND TO HAVE ACCESS FOR COMPLAINTS SO THAT JUSTICE CAN BE CARRIED OUT.
SO, WE'LL END IT THERE, AND HOPEFULLY THIS IS THE LAST TIME WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
UH, AND THERE'LL BE A TIME AT THE END IF ANYONE WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT SPEAKING OF HEROES, I DO WANT TO SPEND THIS TIME THANKING OUR OUTGOING BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE A PART OF THE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THIS CURRENT BOARD.
AND I, I WANT TO THANK DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH FOR HER SERVICE TO THE CITY AND FOR HER SERVICE TO THIS BOARD.
I WANT TO THANK DAVID KITNER FOR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND ALSO SERVICE TO THIS BOARD.
AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE FLOOR TO YOU JUST FOR A COUPLE MINUTES TO SHARE ANY LAST COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS REGARDING YOUR ROLE AS A BOARD MEMBER, WHAT YOU'VE ENJOYED, AND WHAT YOU HOPE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE.
WELL, HAVING SERVED TWO TERMS ON THE POLICE REVIEW BOARD, UM, THOSE FOUR YEARS AND THEN SIX YEARS HERE, UM, I'VE SEEN A LOT.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS ITERATION OF THE REVIEW BOARD IS A THOUSAND PERCENT BETTER.
WE, WE NOW HAVE THE STAFF, THE DIRECTOR, AND THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE WILLING TO PUT THE WORK IN AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, DAVID KIDNER.
I WILL JUST SAY AND, AND TRY AND BE BRIEF HERE, THAT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS JUST SAID, AND I IN PARTICULAR AGREED WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID, MR. CHAIR.
UH, WE'VE COME TOO FAR IN THE LAST SIX YEARS ON THIS BOARD ONLY TO EVEN STOP, LET ALONE GO BACKWARDS.
AND, UM, I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU SPEAK OUT.
UH, THE, UM, MEMO THAT ADDRESSED DISBANDING THIS BOARD IS IN AIM, RIDICULOUS AND HAS NO SUBSTANCE OR MERIT TO IT.
SO WHILE I'LL BE GOING OFF THE BOARD AS WILL DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, WE WILL BE WATCHING YOU AND, AND PULLING FOR YOU.
AND LET'S KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
LET'S NOT STOP OR GO BACKWARDS.
AND AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE THE BOARD, I WANNA THANK YOU BOTH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE, AND YOU'VE, UH, ALSO LEFT THIS CITY BETTER THAN WHEN YOU FOUND US.
AND THE LAST THING, UH, FOR THE CHAIRMAN'S
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REPORT IS JUST, UH, TO REVISIT SUBCOMMITTEES AND, UH, DUE TO SOME BOARD MEMBERS ENDING THEIR TERMS, THERE ARE SOME VACANCIES ON SUBCOMMITTEES.AND SO I WANTED TO EXTEND, UH, JUST FOR YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT IF THERE ARE CERTAIN COMMITTEES THAT YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT HAVE A VACANCY, UH, TO LET ME KNOW, LET LET THE DIRECTOR KNOW AND SHE'LL LET ME KNOW.
AND THEN, UH, AS WE BEGIN MEETING AGAIN AS SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, WE WILL HAVE, UM, A KNOWLEDGE OF WHO WOULD BE THE BEST FIT FOR THESE SUBCOMMITTEES.
UH, WE HAVE THE POLICY, THE RULES, THE BOARD TRAINING, AND THEN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UM, AND, UH, THERE WILL BE SOME VACANCIES.
SO IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST, UH, PLEASE, UH, SPEAK TO ME OR THE DIRECTOR AND, UH, YOU'LL BE HEARD.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE CHAIRMAN REPORT.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, UH, ON THO THOSE POINTS, AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO EVERYONE WHO WAS MENTIONED.
UH, DO WANT TO NOW MOVE ON TO THE CPOB STANDING SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS.
I KNOW, UH, WANT TO GIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR EACH OF THE CHAIR PEOPLE, UH, OF THESE SUBCOMMITTEES TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING, UH, PERTINENT TO THESE SUBCOMMITTEES.
UH, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE, IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE FROM, UH, THE CHAIRMAN OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, ANY UPDATE FROM, UH, FROM THIS SUBCOMMITTEE, MR. HIGGINS? UH, NOT MUCH.
NOT MUCH MOVEMENT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, DIRECTOR ANDRE AND, UH, POLICY ANALYST, UH, OSU, UH, WE'RE KIND OF WATCHING AUSTIN TO SEE WHAT'S GONNA BE THE OUTCOME OF SOME THINGS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO US GETTING BACK TO IT.
WE STARTED AROUND, UH, UH, REVISING THE ORDINANCE AND, UM, ADDING SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND BEING ABLE TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD AT SOME POINT, UH, FOR YOUR INPUT.
AND SO, UM, WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. HIGGINS.
THE, UH, THE RULES COMMITTEE, THE, UH, FORMER CHAIRWOMAN, UM, IS, IT'S NOW VACANT.
UM, ANY UPDATE FROM, UH, THE SUB SUBCOMMITTEE OF RULES BY CHANCE? UH, JUDGE LANDER, UH, AS THE TITULAR, UH, VICE CHAIR? NO.
UH, BOARD TRAINING, UH, DR. LAUREN GILBERT, SMITH, ANYTHING, UH, YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE? NO, UH, WELL, DEER DID REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT SCHEDULING THE, UM, RETREAT, BUT MOST OF THE DATES THAT I REALLY HAVE AVAILABLE TO OUR NEXT YEAR AT THIS POINT, BUT SINCE I'M NOT GOING TO CONTINUE
IT'S LIKE, IT'S NOT MY PROBLEM.
WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOU, THE WORK YOU DID ON THAT, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CHAIR OF THIS SUBCOMMITTEE.
MR. JONATHAN MAPLES, ANY UPDATE ON YOUR, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE? NO.
UM, MS. PEREZ IS DOING A FINE JOB, SO IT, IT MAKES MY WORK EASY.
SEEING THERE'S NO MORE, UH, REPORTS FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIR.
PEOPLE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM C UNDER AGENDA ITEM NINE.
UH, WE ARE, UM, LOOKING AT THE NEXT MEETINGS AND WE DO NEED TO TAKE A VOTE, UM, FOR THE NO, FOR ALL OF THEM.
FOR ALL OF THEM FISCAL YEAR, THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO, UH, THIS WILL BE A VOTE TO APPROVE.
WE WILL NEED TO VOTE AS A BOARD TO APPROVE ALL OF THE DATES FOR THESE MEETINGS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 TO 2026.
AND I BELIEVE THERE IS ONE CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE NOTED.
USUALLY WE MEET THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH, BUT THE SECOND TUESDAY IN NOVEMBER IS VETERAN'S DAY.
AND SO IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE MOVE THE MEETING ONE WEEK EARLIER, WHICH WOULD BE NOVEMBER 4TH.
SO, UH, IF, UH, THE 20 0, 20 25, YEAH.
YOU'RE THINKING YOU GOT, YOU GOT THE, YOU KNOW, DVI 2026 ALREADY.
UH, SO YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS FOR 2025, SO IT'S JUST A FEW MONTHS AWAY.
UM, SO IF THE BOARD COULD LOOK THOSE DATES OVER AND IF THERE'S A BRAVE BOARD MEMBER THAT COULD MAKE, SET A MOTION, UH, TO SUPPORT THESE, AND THEN WE'LL BE SECONDED AND WE'LL VOTE AS A BOARD, MR. CHAIRMAN.
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SO NOVEMBER 4TH STILL IS ELECTION DAY.SO, UH, IT'S, UM, DO, IS THERE A SUGGESTION FROM THE BOARD OF A DIFFERENT DATE THAT WOULD WORK FOR EVERYBODY? MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
FRIEDMAN, BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14.
UM, I, WE'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN BEFORE, UM, AND IT'S ALWAYS INCONVENIENT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO WATCH ELECTION RETURNS ON ELECTION DAY.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST JUST CHANGING THE DAY, LIKE INSTEAD OF VETERAN'S DAY, WHICH IS TUESDAY, UH, MAYBE DO A MONDAY OR WEDNESDAY, IF THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, RATHER THAN DOING IT ON ELECTION DAY.
I I, I, THIS ISN'T GONNA AFFECT ME, OBVIOUSLY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THIS HAPPENED LAST YEAR AND THIS IS AN OFF YEAR AND IT CAN'T BE THAT MUCH GOING ON.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WANNA BE HOME WATCHING ELECTION RETURNS ON THIS NOVEMBER 4TH.
BUT AGAIN, YOUR CALL YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA DIE ON THIS HILL.
UM, AND, UH, I, I, I, I AGREE BECAUSE BEING A VETERAN AND AN ELECTION JUDGE, I'M PROBABLY THE LONE PERSON THAT THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT
WELL, MAYBE ONE MORE PERSON, BUT, UH, YEAH.
AND I, YEAH, I'LL DIE ON THAT HILL, MY MAN
SO, UH, IS THERE, IT'LL AFFECT ME AS WELL TOO.
IT WOULD AFFECT, IT WOULD AFFECT, UH, MR. HIGGINS.
I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE DO IT ON THAT MONDAY.
'CAUSE WEDNESDAY IS COUNCIL DAY AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE CONFLICTING WITH COUNSEL.
I SAID I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE DO IT ON THAT MONDAY, NOVEMBER THE THIRD, BECAUSE WEDNESDAY WOULD BE A COUNCIL DAY AND WE DO NOT WANT TO CONFLICT WITH THEM.
SO WE HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN THE THIRD OR THE 10TH.
UH, THE, THE 10TH WOULD BE A DAY BEFORE OUR NORMALLY SCHEDULED MEETING.
AND THE FOURTH, THE THIRD WOULD BE A WEEK EARLIER.
PERSONALLY, WOULD THE, AND WEDNESDAY IS OFF LIMITS 'CAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL USES THIS, BUT, UH, WOULD, WOULD THE BOARD BE OKAY IF, UH, WE MOVE IT TO THE 10TH OF NOVEMBER, MONDAY? I WOULD BE OKAY.
LOOKS LIKE I'M MO I'M GETTING SOME NODS IN AFFIRMATIVE.
SO, UM, WELL THEN JUDGE VICTOR LANDER, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE BOARD MEETINGS AS PRINTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NOVEMBER AND MAKE THAT NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025.
BUT TO BE SPECIFIC FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, RECORD, OCTOBER 14TH, 2025, NOVEMBER 10TH, 2025.
BASTILLE DAY, AUGUST 11TH, 2026 AND SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026, ALL AT FIVE 30, ALL IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
THAT THOSE BE OUR NEXT MEETINGS FOR FISCAL, WHATEVER THAT IS.
OZZIE SMITH, DISTRICT TWO, UH, DISTRICT ONE I SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE BRANDON FROM GO AHEAD.
UH, WE USUALLY HAVE A RECESS JULY, SO WE'LL NEED TO, UH, ELIMINATE JULY.
HEY, BUT HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR I TRIED LISTENING AT ALL.
WE WOULD, WE WOULD'VE MISSED IT IF I, YOU HADN'T.
I WAS TRYING TO KEEP IT THERE.
SO, UH, DO WE NEED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE, YOU'VE BEEN HERE BY YOURSELF? I WILL.
I WILL AMEND MY MOTION TO DO AWAY WITH JAN OF JULY, UM, FOUR 14TH OF 2026.
SEPTEMBER 8TH IS GONNA BE A BAD DAY FOR ME.
WELL, WE MUST, WE'LL, YOU, WE'LL MISS YOU
I SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUTTA TOWN TODAY ANYWAY.
UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION, SAY AYE.
UM, WHILE DEER, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT IN PERSON OR ONLINE? DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY IN PERSON UNLESS MS. MARY HOSKIN IS, HOSKIN IS
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HERE.IS SHE PRESENT? I JUST WANNA GIVE ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR MARY HOSKINS.
IS SHE HERE? IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT SHE IS HERE IN ATTENDANCE OR ONLINE SEEING.
THERE'S NO ONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? LAUREN GILBERT SMITH DISTRICT BEFORE, BEFORE.
I, I WANNA SAY THANKS TO OUR GRADUATING SENIORS.
UM, WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER A LONG TIME AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU YOUR TUESDAY BACK
BUT YES, IT'S, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.
UM, AND, AND THANK YOU BOTH BECAUSE YOU WERE HERE WHEN I GOT HERE.
SO I'VE LEARNED DIFFERENT THINGS FROM, FROM BOTH OF YOU GUYS.
UM, ONE OTHER LAST THING, SINCE THE CHIEF IS GONNA BE HERE NEXT MONTH, I, I, WE NEED TO KNOW THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT POLICIES.
LET ME JUST, LET ME USE THAT WORD.
SO IF THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT QUESTIONS WE CAN HAVE, DO THEY NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA, SO ON AND SO FORTH AHEAD OF THAT MEETING AND WHEN THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE DONE, SO WE CAN RUN A SMOOTH MEETING.
THE QUESTIONS DO NOT NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA, BUT THE BROAD SUBJECT MATTERS WILL NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA SO THAT YOU CAN DELVE INTO THOSE, UH, TOPICS.
BUT THAT, SO THE BROAD SUBJECT MATTER IS A BROAD STATEMENT.
SO YOU CAN, YOU'LL NEED SOME KIND OF, WE'LL NEED SOME TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE ON THE AGENDA THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD MAY ASK THE CHIEF QUESTIONS RELATED TO X, Y, Z AND WE CAN MAKE A BIG LIST OF THOSE TOPICS.
NO, THAT DOESN'T WORK WE'LL, UH, WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY HEAD OF THE GAME WHEN WE'RE MAKING THE AGENDA.
WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT ASK AS A BOARD.
OKAY? WOULD YOU PASS THAT PROPOSED AGENDA AROUND TO THOSE OF US ON THE, UH, BOARD? GOT IT.
BECAUSE I MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS.
UH, I BELIEVE, UH, BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS HAS HIS HAND UP.
US, I, I PERSONALLY THINK WE SHOULDN'T BE ASKING WHAT WE CAN ASK.
UH, LIKE I SAID, LAST BOARD MEETING, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE'RE ASKING THAT CAN'T BE ANSWERED FOR SOME TYPE OF POLICY OR POLITICAL OR STRATEGIC REASON, THEN IT'S ON OUR POLICE CHIEF TO SAY HE CANNOT ANSWER THAT.
RIGHT? LIKE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO EVEN CONCERN OURSELVES WITH WORRYING ABOUT IF WHAT WE ARE ASKING WE'RE ABLE TO ASK, UNLESS IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE CITY, IN THE CHARTER OR OUR ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING STATE LAW THAT SAYS WE CAN'T ASK CERTAIN QUESTIONS.
AND OF COURSE, UM, WE WON'T ASK THOSE.
BUT, UM, I, I THINK WE NEED TO REORIENT OUR THINKING AROUND OUR QUESTIONS, RIGHT? WE HAVE QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE A FEW PAGES OF QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, I SAY WE, WE SUBMIT OUR QUESTIONS, OUR BROAD TOPICS, UH, FOR OUR QUESTIONS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CHIEF TO SAY HE CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? YES, CHAIR.
COULD I, COULD I MAKE A COMMENT TO MY BOARD MEMBERS? OH, YES, YES.
LET'S CONTINUE, CONTINUE THIS.
I, I DIDN'T, I, UH, YOU GUYS DIDN'T KNOW I WAS ON EARLIER, UM, WHEN FOLKS WERE MAKING COMMENT, BUT, UH, TO BOARD MEMBER GILBERT SMITH AND KIDNER, UH, YOU WILL BE SORELY MISSED, UH, UH, MS. GILBERT SMITH, YOUR PASSION, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK FOR THIS BOARD IS SOMETHING THAT WAS, THAT'S NEEDED.
AND, UM, WHEN THERE WASN'T THAT KIND OF PASSION, SOMETIME YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE TO SPEAK UP AND HAVE THE PASSION FOR THE PEOPLE AND REPRESENT THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, CAUSED THIS BOARD TO COME INTO FRUITION IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, MR. KITNER, UM, I REALLY ENJOYED SERVING ON THIS BOARD WITH YOU.
UM, I'VE ENJOYED, YOU KNOW, EVEN BEFORE I SERVED ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, MY POSITION WAS DIFFERENT.
UM, BUT I, I THANK, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR, UH, ALSO BEING PART OF THE, THE OLD REVIEW BOARD THAT ACTUALLY
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SUPPORTED AND ENDORSED THE OCP, UH, UH, CREATED THE CREATION OF THE OCPO AND THIS NEW BOARD.AND SO YOU MADE HISTORY IN DALLAS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I MISS, UH, GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH KIDNER, UH, TRYING TO KEEP ME HONEST ON, ON MY OPINIONS AND, AND I'LL MISS YOUR PASSION, MS. GILBERT.
AND, AND ALSO, UH, BIG SALUTE TO, TO DIRECTOR ANDRE AND STAFF FOR, UH, JUST BEING, UM, COLD AS ICE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
AND, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES ME PROUD AS SOMEBODY WHO PUT A LOT OF BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS INTO MAKING THIS ALL A REALITY.
UM, AND STANDING ON A LOT OF SHOULDERS OF A LOT OF ELDERS AND, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE NO LONGER HERE, WHO WANTED THIS TO BE A REALITY AS WELL.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UM, TO ALL OF Y'ALL.
AND ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU TO THE OCPO STAFF AND DIRECTOR ANDRE, CONGRATULATIONS FOR, FOR ONE YEAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. HIGGINS.
SO, UH, FOR, UH, HOW WE ADJOURN, I'D LOVE TO INVITE ONE OF, HOW ABOUT WE HAVE ONE SECOND AND ONE MOTION, AND WE KNOW WHO'S GOING TO DO IT, AND, UH, WE'LL GIVE THEM ONE LAST TIME.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? DISTRICT FOUR.
I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
ANY DISCUSSIONS? SEEING THERE'S NONE.
MEETING PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AT 7:03 PM.