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IS 2:01 PM[Ad Hoc Committee on Professional Sports Recruitment and Retention on September 23, 2025.]
ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, AND I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON PROFESSIONAL SPORTS RECRUITMENT AND, UH, RETENTION TO ORDER.OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE MINUTES APPROVAL OF THE MAY 12TH, 2025 MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE SAME COMMITTEE APPROVAL.
NEXT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR BRIEFING ITEM.
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, DIRECTOR FLEMING.
UM, ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES, AND I HAVE, UH, BOTH MY ASSISTANT DIRECTORS WITH ME AND DESMOND MOND, WHO IS WITH MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK.
SO WE WANTED TO BRIEF YOU ABOUT AN ITEM THAT IS ON TOMORROW'S AGENDA, VOTING AGENDA, AND TO DISCUSS KIND OF SOME OF THE BACKGROUND.
SO WHEN WE BRIEFED YOU ALL AND SELECTED THE JOEY GEORGIS PARK AS THE ADDRESS FOR THE SECONDARY FACILITY, WE SAID THAT WE WOULD COME BACK AFTER GENSLER HAD DONE THEIR SCHEMATIC DRAWINGS, AND WE WOULD THEN MOVE ON INTO THE, INTO THE PM COMPONENT, THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT.
AND SO THE ITEM TOMORROW PROVIDES THAT MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK WAS SELECTED AS THE PM FOR THE ARENA PROJECT IN FEBRUARY OF, IN FEBRUARY OF 2024.
AND WHEN WE DID THAT, THEY DID PROPOSE ON BOTH THE ARENA AND THE SECONDARY FACILITY.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME AS WE CAME THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS, WE WERE AT THE SAME TIME DOING OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH FIFA.
FIFA HAD NOT PROVIDED US ENOUGH INFORMATION AT THE TIME ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OR THE ACTUAL PORTIONS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT WOULD BE NEEDED OR WHETHER THEY WOULD NEED THE, UH, ANY PORTION THAT WOULD'VE IMPACTED THE SECONDARY FACILITY BEING CONJOINED.
AND SO WHEN IT CAME TO BEAR THAT IT WAS, WE ASKED MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK TO HOLD ON DOING ANY PM PROPOSAL UNTIL SUCH TIME AS ONE WE HAD AN ADDRESS, AND TWO, WE HAD SOME DESIGNS THAT SHOWED THAT THEY COULD FIT AT THE ADDRESS THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE.
SO WE'RE AT THAT JUNCTURE NOW.
AND SO PART OF THE ITEM TOMORROW IS TO ADD THE SCOPE FOR THE SECONDARY FACILITY TO THE MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK CONTRACT.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE ITEM TOMORROW.
WE BRIEFED YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO AND TOLD YOU THAT WE ADDED A YEAR TO THE DELIVERY TIMELINE FOR THE ARENA.
SO RATHER THAN DELIVERING IT IN 26, WE WOULD DELIVER IT IN 27.
FOR THE SAME REASONS WITH FIFA IN THE BUILDING AND THE LIMITATIONS ON WHAT CAN BE CONSTRUCTED, THE WINGS AGREED, AND THAT WAS ALWAYS AN OPTION IN THEIR ORIGINAL CONTRACT TO EXTEND A YEAR.
SO WE DID EXTEND A YEAR, AND SO WE'RE ADDING THE ADDITIONAL SCOPE AND COST FOR THAT YEAR TO THE, TO THE MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK CONTRACT AS WELL.
THE ADDITIONAL SCOPE IS LISTED ON PAGE THREE OF THE, OF THE BRIEFING THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE FOUND AS WE STARTED TO ONE, GO INTO DESIGN AS WE'VE ENGAGED THE CMAR AND AS WE'VE STARTED THE COORDINATION WITH THE OTHER COMPONENTS IN THE, IN THE MASTER PLAN, IS THAT THERE ARE SOME ELECTRICAL SERVICE ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE RESOLVED THAT NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE SCOPE FOR THEM TO PROJECT MANAGE.
THOSE ARE REALLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH WITH ENCORE, WHICH IS GONNA BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK ACROSS ALL COMPONENTS BECAUSE OF THE DATED AGE OF THE VAULTS THAT ARE CONNECTED CURRENTLY TO THE ARENA.
THEY'RE FROM THE FIFTIES AND THE SEVENTIES, AND SO THEY DON'T MEET CURRENT SCOPE.
AND SO WORKING OUT THE DELIVERY OF THAT ELECTRICITY SUCH THAT IT CAN DELIVER WHAT THE ARENA NEEDS FOR ANY FUTURE NEEDS IS IN THERE.
THERE'S ALSO PLANNING OF THE ABUTTING PLAZA NEXT TO THE ARENA AND THE TIMELINE FOR THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME SCOPE AND PROGRAMMING ON THE INTERIOR OF THE ARENA THAT'S BEEN ADDED.
WE'VE THEN ASKED THEM TO WORK WITH VISIT DALLAS AND INSPIRE DALLAS, WHO HAVE A CONTRACT TO LOOK AT, TO LOOK AT THE, UH, NAMING RIGHTS AND OTHER CONSIDERATIONS TO BRING ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO THE CITY AND LOOK AT THAT THROUGH THEIR PROGRAMMING.
SO THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH GENSLER TO WORK WITH OUR CONSULTANT
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TO BRING FORWARD SOMETHING TO YOU THAT SHOWS THE AMOUNT OF NAMING RIGHTS WE CAN EXPECT TO OBTAIN FROM THE CITY, BOTH FOR THE NAMING RIGHTS OF THE ACTUAL FACILITY, AND THEN ANY OF THE INTERIOR NAMING RIGHTS.AND THEN AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THERE'S SOME GEOTECHNICAL CONCERNS THAT NO ONE COULD HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THAT COULD, THAT PREVENT TO PREVENT ANY DAMAGE TO THE CITY HALL GARAGE, WHICH COMES UP UNDER, PARTIALLY UNDER THE ARENA.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE ITEM TOMORROW, AND WE WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THAT.
OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO BRING IT FORWARD FOR APPROVAL, RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL TOMORROW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING THAT, UM, BRIEF, UH, JUST TO FRAME THIS FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMITTEE.
UM, SO THE FIRST ITEM IS A TWO PART THING THAT WE ARE APPROVING TOMORROW.
UH, WE'RE GONNA CONSIDER AND PROBABLY HOPEFULLY APPROVE TOMORROW AT COUNCIL, AND THAT I INVOLVES THE CHANGES TO THE MCKISSACK AGREEMENT ON THEIR SCOPE OF WORK AT THE ARENA.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE DELIVERY OF THE FACILITY, UM, AT JOEY G PARK FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY PORTION.
AND JUST SO WE, I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT ANYONE ON THIS COMMITTEE, BUT JUST SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT STAYS GERMANE, WE'RE REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT THE ARENA, UM, AND ITS USES AND ALSO THE PRACTICE FACILITY CONSTRUCTION AT JOEY G PARK.
SO ANYTHING ELSE ON THE CONVENTION CENTER IS REALLY NOT ON THE TABLE TODAY.
UM, AND JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, FYI ON THAT, SO I SAW MR. RIDLEY FIRST, I'LL START HERE AND THEN I'LL DO THIS SIDE AND THEN I'LL DO THIS SIDE.
ROSA, COULD YOU OUTLINE FOR US WHAT THE SCOPE WAS OF THE ORIGINAL MCKISSICK CONTRACT TO WHICH YOU'RE INCREASING THE SCOPE? I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING.
IT APPEARS THAT THEY WERE TO BE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE ARENA BUILDING AND ALSO FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY WHEN IT WAS TO BE ADJACENT TO THE ARENA.
SO MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK IS THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THE OWNER'S REP.
AND SO THEIR SCOPE WAS TO MANAGE THE DESIGNER, MANAGE THE CMAR, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK WHEN THEY BRING THEM ON INTEGRATE AND PROJECT INTEGRATION WITH ALL OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS AS THEY CAME ONLINE.
AND SO AS WE'VE DONE THAT, THE INCREASE IN SCOPE RELATIVE TO THE ARENA REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THINGS THAT WERE NOT DISCOVERABLE AT THE TIME THAT WE PUT OUT THE SOLICITATION.
AND SO THERE WAS NO WAY TO KNOW AT THE TIME UNTIL WE STARTED REALLY DIGGING INTO IT AS WE GOT THE DESIGNER AND THE CMAR ON BOARD ON ALL OF THESE PROJECTS TO REALLY KNOW THAT THE, THE CURRENT VAULTS AT THE FACILITY WHERE THEY SIT AND THE AGE OF THEM WOULD, COULD NOT BE, UM, ADAPTED.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY REMOVED, RESET, RELOCATED, AND BROUGHT TO CURRENT TO CURRENT SCOPE.
SO THE ENGINEERING INFORMATION WE HAD AT THE BEGINNING DID NOT REVEAL THAT TO US.
SECOND, THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY HALL GARAGE AND ITS CONNECTIVITY TO BOTH T-BALL AND TO THE ARENA, UM, HAS SOME GEOTECHNICAL CONCERNS WHERE WE DON'T WANNA CAUSE ANY KIND OF COLLAPSE.
AND SO THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
SO THAT'S ADDED TO THEIR SCOPE.
WE ALSO, ALTHOUGH WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE HAD NOT YET TRULY CONSIDERED HOW WE WOULD DO NAMING RIGHTS AND INTERIOR PROGRAM.
ROSE, MY QUESTION WAS DIFFERENT.
MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF THEIR AGREEMENT THAT YOU NOW SEEK TO SUPPLEMENT? SURE.
SO THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF THE AGREEMENT WHEN THEY PROPOSED INCLUDED BOTH, UH, INCLUDED THE ARENA AND A SECONDARY ABUTTING FACILITY.
RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE ON THE GROUNDS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
RIGHT WHEN WE STARTED NEGOTIATIONS, THE TIMING LINED UP WITH THE TIMING WITH WHICH WE WERE NEGOTIATING WITH FIFA, EXCEPT THAT FIFA WAS NOT CLEAR ON HOW MUCH OF THE CONVENTION CENTER THEY WOULD NEED AT THE TIME OR WHAT EXACTLY THE PARAMETERS WERE, UH, FOR LAYOUT INTERIORLY AND OUTSIDE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
AND SO WE, WELL, GIVEN THAT SO MANY CONDITIONS SURE HAVE CHANGED FROM WHAT THEY WERE ANTICIPATED TO BE AT THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL RFP, DID YOUR STAFF GIVE ANY THOUGHT TO CANCELING THAT RFP? BECAUSE THE SCOPE HAS CHANGED SO MUCH AND ISSUING A NEW RFP WITH THE NEW SCOPE OF WORK SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE A REAL COMPETITIVE
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BID ON THE NEW SCOPE OF WORK.SO WE DID, THERE'S TIMING CONCERNS AND THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A LOT OF WORK ON BEHALF OF MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK SUCH THAT IF WE BROUGHT SOMEONE NEW ON THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO CATCH UP AND US STILL BE ABLE TO DELIVER THIS PROJECT ON TIME WAS JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT THAT REALLY ANYONE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
AND WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT SCOPE? SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS 7.9, AND SO WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 3.3 MILLION FOR THE, UM, FOR THE ADDITIONAL SCOPE.
AND ANOTHER TWO POINT, WE'RE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL 2.6 FOR THE ADDITIONAL SCOPE AND 3.3 FOR THE OFFSITE FACILITY, BUT THE ORIGINAL WAS 7.9.
SO WE'RE ADDING ABOUT ANOTHER $6 MILLION.
THAT, THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE A CARDINAL CHANGE IN THE CONTRACT.
UM, WAS ANY THOUGHT GIVEN TO SPLITTING UP THE CONTRACT SINCE TWO POINT? NO.
I GUESS 3.3 MILLION OF THAT IS FOR THE NEW OFFSITE FACILITY SO THAT THAT COULD PROCEED WITH ANOTHER CONTRACTOR CONTEMPORANEOUSLY WITH THE ONE FOR THE ARENA.
WOULD THAT RESULT IN A SAVINGS OF TIME, FOR EXAMPLE? I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD RESULT IN A SAVINGS OF TIME.
I THINK THAT THEY HAVE BECOME SO FAMILIAR WITH THE WNBA REQUIREMENTS.
THEY'VE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WINGS HERETOFORE, UM, SINCE THEY'VE BEEN BROUGHT ON BOARD, THEY'VE HAD THE DESIGN DISCUSSIONS AT IN TERMS OF THE ARENA, ET CETERA, WITH GENSLER.
SO I DO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD GAIN ANY TIME BY HIRING SOMEONE ELSE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE THE OPPOSITE.
AND HOW MUCH OF THE ORIGINAL $7.9 MILLION CONTRACT AMOUNT WAS ALLOCATED TO THE PRACTICE, THE AUXILIARY FACILITY SUCH THAT IS THAT BEING COUNTED TOWARDS THE ADDITIONAL COST OF 3.3 MILLION FOR THE OFFSITE FACILITY SINCE THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO PERFORM THAT ORIGINAL SCOPE IN THAT REGARD? SO, UM, I WAS, I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER THAT WHEN WE STARTED THE NEGOTIATIONS, WE BIFURCATED THE PROJECT.
WE ASKED THEM NOT TO PROVIDE US COST YET ON THE SECONDARY FACILITY BECAUSE WE WERE STILL NEGOTIATING WITH FIFA AND WE DIDN'T COMPLETE FIFA NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL THIS YEAR IN FEBRUARY.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE 7.9 ORIGINAL CONTRACT AMOUNT DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY AMOUNT FOR THE SECONDARY FACILITY? IT DID NOT.
MR. RIDLEY, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? ROBIN? I SAW YOU POP UP HERE.
ROBIN BENTLEY CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR DESMOND AND HIS TEAM.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THEY BID ON A SCOPE FOR THE FIRST PIECE THAT WAS GONNA BE DELIVERED IN 2026.
AND BY ADDING ANOTHER YEAR, WE'VE ESSENTIALLY DOUBLED THE TIME THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING AS OUR OWNER'S REP BY HAVING THEM WORK THROUGH 2027.
SO I KNOW IT LOOKS LIKE A LARGE INCREASE, BUT WE'VE ASKED A LOT MORE OF THEM THAN THE SHORT OWNER'S REP TIMEFRAME, THOUGH THEY HAD ORIGINALLY BID UNDER, WHICH WOULD HAVE THE WINGS PLAYING HERE IN SPRING OF 26.
SO PUSHING IT OUT A YEAR HAS THEM ON BOARD, TAKING MY PHONE CALLS,
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM DOWN HERE.
I CAN'T EVEN SEE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE ORANGE OVER THERE.
UH, UH, MS. BLAIR, UM, CAN YOU BACK UP FOR A MINUTE? AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT, THAT THE ORIGINAL COST WAS 7.9.
I HEARD THAT THERE WAS SCOPE CHANGE AND I HEARD THAT THERE WAS SCOPE REALIGNMENT AND I HEARD THERE WAS COST ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE CHANGES IN REALIGNMENT.
CAN YOU DO ME A, A FAVOR AND OUTLINE AND, AND I KNOW THAT THE ORIGINAL COST WAS 7.9 MILLION, CORRECT? AND YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
THEN CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME, WITH EACH SCOPE CHANGE, WHAT WAS THE ADDITIONAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CHANGE? DO YOU HAVE? OKAY.
HE'LL NEED TO PULL IT UP ON HIS PHONE.
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SO I COULD DO SOME OF IT.IF WE LOOK AT THE SCOPE CHANGE FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 750 K IN THAT FOR THE EARLY DESIGN AND THE 750,000 FOR THE, UH, EARLY LOOK AT DESIGNS, UM, GEOTECHNICAL, ET CETERA.
ON THE SITE, THERE IS AN AMOUNT OF ABOUT, I BELIEVE IT'S TWO 50 THAT IS RELATED TO ABOUT 250 K THAT'S RELATED TO THE USE TO THE LOOKING AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL, THE SITE LAYOUT, THE SITE UTILITIES, WORKING AND COORDINATING WITH ENCORE ATMOS AND ALL OF THOSE, AND WORKING WITH OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENT, OEQS TO ENGAGE WITH TERRACON AND WALK THE SITE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE SITE IS LOOKED AT AND REMEDIATED APPROPRIATELY.
IT ALSO WENT INTO THE REMEDIATION THAT IS BEING DONE CURRENTLY.
THEY HAD ENGAGEMENT INCLUDED IN THERE, I BELIEVE AT 90 K, 10 K, 110 K.
AND THEN I'M SHORT JUST A LITTLE BIT FROM THAT.
CAN YOU PLEASE GET ON YOUR MIC AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF? INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YES.
DESMOND MOND, YOU NEED TO BRING IT FORWARD.
THERE WAS A $65,000, UH, CONTINGENCY ADDITIONAL IN THAT, IN THAT NUMBER.
WHAT WAS IT? WHAT WAS THE 110 K FOR? IT WAS FOR ADDITIONAL, UM, CON YEAH, ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL AND, UH, CONSULTATION.
SO YOU, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF 360,000 FOR JUST ENVIRONMENTAL, WELL, IT'S NOT JUST, EXCUSE ME, NOT JUST ENVIRONMENTAL.
IT INCLUDES SITE UTILITIES, THE ROUTING OF THE STREETS.
THE STREETS DON'T CONNECT TO WHERE YOU COULD BUILD A PARKING LOT.
SO WORKING WITH TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS ON THAT, WORKING WITH ENCORE TO CONNECT UTILITIES, WORKING WITH DWU TO CONNECT THE WATER FROM ONE OF THEIR EXISTING SITES ACROSS THE STREET WHERE I BELIEVE THE CITY'S INVESTED IN ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOME ELDER FRIENDLY, UM, MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITY.
SO CONNECTING ALL OF THE UTILITIES FROM THERE AND LOOKING AT HOW THOSE CONNECTIONS WORK.
SO QUITE A BIT OF SITE WORK THAT HAD TO BE DONE IN AN INVESTIGATION IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THE FEASIBILITY AND ANALYSIS ON THE PROPERTY, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO, SO LET ME JUST ADD THIS UP REAL QUICK.
THAT'S, IT'S, SO NOW WE'RE AT 8.3, 8.3, ROUGHLY 8.3 IN TOTAL CHARGE FOR THE ORIGINAL 7.9.
IT'S ACTUALLY EIGHT 8,322,500.
AND SO THERE'S ALSO AN ADDITIONAL, THE SCHEMATIC PLANNING AND THE DRAWINGS, IT WAS 1.25, 1.25 WHAT MILLION TO MANAGE THAT.
SO THAT, SO WE'RE NOW AT NINE POINT, UH, FIVE SEVEN, AND THEN ANOTHER 1.7 TO CONTINUE THE WORK THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.
SO MANAGING THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT, THAT THEY'RE DELIVERING THEIR SCHEDULE.
THE SAME KIND OF SCOPE THAT WE'VE GIVEN FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER JUST ON A SMALLER SCALE.
SO DELIVERY, SIDING, ALL OF THOSE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES THAT GO WITH MANAGING A CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE'RE AT 10.27, 10.3, ROUGHLY? ROUGHLY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT ABOUT 10 UHHUH
SO, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO BREAK DOWN, BREAK DOWN AND UNDERSTAND AND, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL AND WHAT WERE THE ADDITIONAL, AND WHERE WAS THE SCOPE CHANGE.
I GET WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL THAT YOU, WITH, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION, WHEN YOU GO UNDERGROUND, YOU NEVER KNOW.
IT LOOKS LIKE, LIKE RENOVATING A OLD HOUSE WHEN YOU TAKE THE WALLS DOWN, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GONNA FIND UNTIL THE WALLS ARE GONE.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU BREAKING THAT DOWN FOR ME.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S TOO LATE FROM WHAT, WHAT ELSE WAS ASKED? IS IT TOO LATE
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TO START ALL OVER AGAIN WITH THE NEW SCOPE? BECAUSE THESE, THESE FEES ARE ALREADY BAKED IN, CORRECT? YES.I, IN TERMS OF TIME AND BEING ABLE TO DELIVER THE PROJECT ON TIME AND THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY'VE GAINED FROM ALREADY WORKING WITH THE WINGS FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME, AND THE WNBA, THE FAMILIARITY WITH THE SITE, WORKING WITH PARK AND RECREATION ON UNDERSTANDING THE JOEY EG SITE, AND THEN UNDERSTANDING WITH ALL OF THE PROVIDERS AND THE INTEGRATION WITH THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE MASTER PLAN AT THE ARENA, IT WOULD BE A LOT FOR SOMEONE TO PICK UP AND STILL BE ABLE TO DELIVER.
SO MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT A TIMELINE, A, A SHORT WINDOW TO BUILD THE, THE, UH, PRACTICE FACILITY AND TO GET THAT UP AND RUNNING ON TIME.
DO WE HAVE ANY RISK ASSESSMENTS BASED, UH, THAT'S KNOWN TO THAT, THAT WE CAN FIND, WE CAN SEE AS TO, IF WE DON'T DO A, WE CAN'T GET TO B.
IF WE DO B, WE HAVE TO DO C DO WE HAVE ANY OF THAT TYPE OF ANALYSIS? UM, IN TERMS OF THE ARENA, WE'VE DONE SOME OF THAT.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE SITE, WE'VE DONE THAT AS WELL.
AND THAT'S THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
AND WE'LL WALK THROUGH THAT WITH, WITH GENSLER SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ORDER OF DELIVERY OF THOSE.
SO IN TERMS OF THE ARENA, UM, AND THE ADDED SCOPE, THE ELECTRICITY IS A CRITICAL PATH ITEM.
FIGURING OUT WITH, UM, ENCORE HOW TO REPLACE THOSE VAULTS IN A, IN A TIMELY MANNER, GIVEN THE DELIVERY TIME OF SOME OF THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT AND THE LAY DOWN TIME TO ACTUALLY REMOVE AND INSTALL NEW VAULTS IS, IS A CRITICAL PATH ITEM FOR A DELIVERY OF THAT.
SO IN ORDER TO, TO MY CONCERN IN MY, MY QUESTION IS MM-HMM
WE KNEW WHEN WE WENT, WHEN WE HEARD, UM, LAST WEEK, OR WAS IT LAST WEEK THAT WE, I I CAN'T GET MY DATE, MY WEEK STRAIGHT.
ARE WE STILL ON THAT PATHWAY TO BUILD A PRACTICE FACILITY IN THE SHORT WINDOW OF TIME? WE HAVE TO GET IT BUILT.
SO WHAT IF TODAY, IF WE MOVE FORWARD TODAY WITH THE POLICY RECOMMENDATION FROM YOU ALL, ONCE YOU SEE THE DESIGNS THAT WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU ON THE PRACTICE FACILITY, WE'LL HAVE GENSLER KIND OF WALK THROUGH, LIKE HOW WE GET, THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DDS RIGHT NOW, DESIGN.
AND SO ONCE THEY'LL DO, THEY'LL MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
AND SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT TIMING FROM, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND YOU'LL SEE AS WE WALK THROUGH THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO COMBINE ELEMENTS AND KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING, UM, IN A WAY THAT WOULD LEAD US TO, TO FINISH ON TIME.
IT'S NOT LIKE I, I DON'T BELIEVE, UM, MS. SWIMMING THAT WE HAVE A, A, A, A CHOICE WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO AND WHAT THE TIME AND, AND THIS IS PROJECT MANAGEMENT, THE WAY YOU DON'T DO IT MM-HMM
BY HAVING A DATE AND THEN BACK FILLING EVERYTHING WITH, WITH THAT DATE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TOO MANY RISKS THAT YOU'RE GONNA COME UP AND TOO MANY DEFECTIVE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT MM-HMM
IF YOU DON'T DO STEP IT THROUGH ONE BY ONE.
I'VE DONE ENOUGH PROJECTS USING THIS AS A PROTOCOL TO KNOW THAT IT JUST DOESN'T WORK WELL.
SO DO WE HAVE ANYTHING BAKED INTO THIS TIMELINE THAT SAYS THIS IS OUR COST, THIS IS THE COST THAT WE NEED ON THE TABLE TODAY.
AND THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT WE MUST GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO KEEP THIS COST STAGNANT MM-HMM
AND TO HAVE THIS TIMELINE IN SUCH A WAY WE DON'T MISS ANYTHING.
THE LAST THING WE WOULD HA HATE TO DO IS NOT BE ABLE TO DELIVER ON TIME OR DE DELIVER A PRODUCT THAT'S UNUSABLE.
AND SO WE HAVE, WE'VE WORKED WITH MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK AND WE'VE WORKED WITH GENSLER AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CMAR, WHICH IS BE AZTECA, TO LOOK AT THE RISKS AND WHAT OUR CRITICAL PATH ITEMS ARE AND WHAT THE THINGS ARE THAT WE HAVE TO DELIVER.
AND SO THAT'S WHY SOME OF THE THINGS WE BROUGHT TO THIS COM,
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THIS BODY, WHEN WE ASKED TO DO THE PROJECT AT JOEY G INCLUDED AN ITEMIZED LIST OF SOME OF THOSE RISKS.THE FIRST WAS THE UTILITIES, THE SECOND WAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO START FROM THE CITY SIDE.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO START WITH TERRACON THROUGH THAT.
IT WAS ALSO THE REZONING, WHICH YOU JUST, UM, COMPLETED.
AND SO WE DO HAVE AN ITEMIZED LIST OF HOW WE NEED TO DO THOSE THINGS.
THE BIGGEST TIMELINE CONCERNS FOR US IS, IS ORDERING, RIGHT.
AND THE, AND THE CURRENT DELIVERY TIME FOR SOME OF THE, FOR SOME OF THE ITEMS. AND ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE IS TAKEN BY SURPRISE IS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE, UH, THE WINGS AT THE TABLE DURING OUR MEETINGS SO THAT THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING HOW THE PROJECT IS FLOWING.
THEY HAVE ALSO HIRED ON THEIR SIDE MACHETE GROUP, UH, WHICH IS A, A FIRM THAT'S WORKED ON SEVERAL OTHER WNBA PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO TRIGGER FOR US THINGS THAT THEY FEEL ALSO MAY CAUSE RISKS TO DELIVERY.
SO WE'VE TRIED TO CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES ON BOTH SIDES, AND THEY'RE BRINGING MACHETE GROUP TO THE TABLE WAS, WAS A REQUIREMENT OF THEIR ORIGINAL CONTRACT SO THAT WE COULD CHECK EACH OTHER ON BOTH SIDES AND MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING WAS MISSED.
I'M GONNA GO TO MS. CADENA NEXT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS.
THE, WE HAVE A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE THIS FACILITY FOR PRACTICE, UM, FOR THE WINGS AND ALSO THE COMMUNITY FACILITY BY FALL OF THIS TIME OF 26.
UM, MS. CINA? YEAH, ROSA, UM, I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS FIRST WORKED OUT THAT THERE WERE SOME COMMUNITY BENEFITS AS A PART OF THIS, UM, AS WELL.
CAN YOU PLEASE REVIEW THOSE? 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I I REMEMBER THAT.
AND SOME OF THOSE WE DO HAVE, UM, RYAN O'CONNOR WITH PARK AND REC HERE, AND SO WE'RE NEGOTIATING SOME, SOME OF THOSE, UH, WITH THE WINGS.
THEY INCLUDED, UM, A PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS FOR PUBLIC BENEFIT.
SO THERE'S, AND YOU'LL SEE WHEN WE PROVIDE THE SCHEMATICS IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION, THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC BENEFIT COMPONENT TO THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF THAT INCLUDES MEETING SPACE.
IT INCLUDES AN ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE COURTS.
SO IT WAS CLINICS, IT WAS, UM, IT WAS PROGRAM TIME WITH THE ACTUAL WINGS PLAYERS AND EVENTS THAT COULD TAKE PLACE IN THAT PUBLIC, IN COORDINATION AND COLLABORATION, UM, WITH PARK AND REC, WORKING WITH THE WINGS TO CREATE THE SCHEDULE.
AND SO ALL OF THOSE ARE KIND OF OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT WHERE IN THE LAST PHASES OF COMPLETING THAT SUPPLEMENTAL NUMBER TWO, THAT INCLUDES, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, I BELIEVE TWO ADDITIONAL EVENTS THAT THE WINGS WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE PER YEAR THAT ARE PROGRAMMED THROUGH PARK AND REC AND SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
UM, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP, MR. RIDLEY? GO AHEAD, ROSA.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE CONTRACT TERM HAD BEEN EXTENDED FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT TO MEAN WITH THE WINGS TO ALLOW US UNTIL SPRING OF 27 TO COMPLETE THE PRACTICE FACILITY.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE CONTRACT ALLOWED US TO COMPLETE THE ARENA, UM, THROUGH 2027.
AND SO THERE WAS BAKED IN TIME FOR THE ARENA DELIVERY.
OH, THAT'S NOT FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY.
APRIL OF 26 FOR, UH, SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
IS THAT REALISTIC SINCE WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING STARTED WITH THAT SCOPE OF WORK? SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE WINGS ON THE, ON THE TIMELINE RIGHT NOW.
AS I SAID, THEY'RE IN THE ROOM WITH US AS WE WALK THROUGH.
PART OF THIS, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION, IS USING A PREFAB PREFABRICATED STEEL STRUCTURE THAT CAN BE DROPPED ON THE SITE.
SO NOT A PORT AND CONCRETE BUILDING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO PREFABBED OFFSITE SO THAT WE DROP IN ON THE FACILITY IN ORDER TO, ON THE SITE IN ORDER TO, UM, REDUCE SOME OF THE TIME NEEDED FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO I THINK THAT'S HIGHLY OPTIMISTIC.
BUT, UM, YOU MENTIONED ALSO THAT A MILLION AND A QUARTER OF THIS CONTRACT IS FOR DESIGN WORK.
SO I ASSUME THAT MCKISSICK IS GONNA BE DOING THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH ANOTHER ARCHITECTURE FIRM TO
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DO THAT.SO PART OF THAT IS THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OF GENSLER WHO'S ALREADY PROCURED FOR THE OVERALL PROJECT FOR BOTH THE ARENA AND FOR THE SECONDARY FACILITY.
WE BROUGHT GENSLER FORWARD, UM, IN JUNE.
SO WHY ARE WE PAYING THIS FIRM A MILLION AND A QUARTER TO DO DESIGN WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE THAT UNDER CONTRACT WITH GENSLER? SO PART OF THAT INCLUDES THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OF THE DESIGN, AND THEN IT INCLUDES LOOKING AT THE COST SUMMARY WITH THE CMAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BRING DOWN THE COST.
AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION, WE BROUGHT IT DOWN FROM 54.
AND SO WORKING WITH THAT, DOING THE, SOME OF THE ORDERING AND THE PRE-ORDERING EX IS BAKED INTO THAT.
AND THEY DID DO, SO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA ACTUALLY DO DESIGN WORK.
MCKINSEY, THEY DID SOME EARLY DESIGN WORK.
THEY BROUGHT IT WHAT GENSLER IN INHERITED ONCE WE PROVIDED WAS SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN AND WAS BEING WORKED ON, UH, BY THE MCKISSICK TEAM AND WILL BE CONTINUED ON BY THE MCKISSICK TEAM.
SO THEY'RE WORKING IN COORDINATION.
SO BOTH FIRMS ARE GONNA BE WORKING ON THE DESIGN.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE BIFURCATION? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM FOR SURE THE REPRESENTATIVE.
SO YES, AS ROSA MENTIONED, WE DELIVERED A 30% PACKAGE TO GENSLER, UM, WHICH THEY THEN TOOK ON THE DESIGN IN WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY IN DD OUR DESIGN DEVELOPMENT NOW AND MOVING INTO CD SOON.
UH, THE FIRST PORTION OF THAT WAS GETTING, WORKING WITH THE WINGS, UH, GETTING THE PROGRAMMING DOWN, DOING ALL THAT DESIGN WORK AND GETTING ALL THAT DOCUMENTATION TOGETHER FIRST AND FOREMOST TO BE ABLE TO HAND THIS OFF OR TAKE THE NEXT STEP WITH GENSLER TO FINISH OUT THE DOCUMENTATION AND DETAILS INTO CDS.
SO MCKISSICK IS GONNA DO THE CDS? NO, GENSLER IS DOING THE CDS AND WE'RE MANAGING THE PROCESS OF, UH, THE CDS OR THE PROCESS OF DEALING WITH THE CMAR, WORKING WITH INSULAR, THE DESIGN ARCHITECTS AND WORKING WITH THE CITY, UH, DEPARTMENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE'RE ACTING AS THE OWNERS REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY TO MAKE SURE ALL THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO FURTHER THE DESIGN IS DONE AND DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO YOU'RE GONNA OVERSEE THE DESIGN EFFORT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO THE DESIGN, CORRECT? THE YES, WE'RE NOT DOING THE PHYSICAL DESIGN.
THAT IS GENSLER, THE DESIGN ARCHITECT THAT IS DOING THE CDS.
SO THEY'RE THE THE DESIGNER OF RECORD? CORRECT.
COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I MIGHT, TO COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR'S POINT, EACH COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROJECTS THE CITY'S EVER DONE.
ANY ONE OF THEM WOULD BE A MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT AND ROSE STEIN'S EXTREMELY TALENTED AT MANY, MANY THINGS, BUT BUILDING THINGS LIKE THIS IS NOT IN THEIR, UM, IN THEIR WHEEL.
AND SO WE DID PROCURE SOMEONE LIKE MCKISSICK.
WE'VE GOT TAKEDA ON BOARD FOR THE T-BALL FACILITY AND SPIRE ON BOARD FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.
AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY SUPPLEMENTING THE STAFF TO HAVE SOMEONE REPRESENTING THE CITY IN EVERY MEETING, IN EVERY CONVERSATION, WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON, WATCHING THE PRICING, WATCHING THE DESIGN, KEEPING PEOPLE ON TRACK.
SO DESMOND APPEARS FOR ME WAY MORE THAN HE WANTS TO, BUT THIS IS THEIR ROLE ESSENTIALLY IS TO BE THE CITY IN EVERY MEETING AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR INTERESTS ARE BEING PROTECTED.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAYING THEM TO DO.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, ROBIN, UH, BUT WHEN THEY GET A MILLION AND A QUARTER DOLLARS, THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS FOR DESIGN WORK, I THINK WE NEED TO GUARD AGAINST DUPLICATION OF EFFORT BETWEEN THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD AND THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER HERE.
UH, THOSE ARE USUALLY VERY DISTINCT ROLES, AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER THE ARCHITECT AS THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST WANT IT CLEARLY IDENTIFIED THAT WE'RE NOT PAYING TWO DIFFERENT FIRMS TO DESIGN THE SAME BUILDING BUILDING.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE PAYING, WHAT WE PAID THEM FOR IS NOT NECESSARILY DESIGN WORK.
IT'S THE ADVANCED PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT THEY WORKED WITH MACHETE GROUP TO PUT TOGETHER AND POPULACE.
AND THOSE WERE WORKING WITH THE WINGS TO PUT THOSE TOGETHER EARLY SO THAT WE HAD SOMETHING TO, TO WORK WITH TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY NEEDED THE DESIGNS TO BE LAID OUT IN ORDER TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR WNBA.
SO, UM, SAYING DESIGN IS A, IS A MISSPEAK ON, ON MY PART.
IT'S REALLY ADVANCED PLANNING.
AND FINALLY, UM, I HAVE TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE, UH, WHAT'S BEEN CALLED ENVIRONMENTAL WORK, UH, OR COORDINATION TO PREVENT DAMAGE TO THE ABUTTING CITY HALL GARAGE.
WHY WASN'T THAT RECOGNIZED IN THE ORIGINAL RFP? WE ALL KNOW THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE VERY CLOSELY JUXTAPOSED AND THAT THE GARAGE IS UNDER OUR CITY HALL GARAGE.
UM, IT ABUTS THE CONVENTION CENTER.
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WHERE THAT LINE WAS, WHY WASN'T THAT COORDINATION INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK? SO AS WE LOOKED THROUGH THE ADVANCED PLANNING AND THE MASTER PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT WE DEVELOPED WITH WSP, THAT ENGINEERING COMPONENT ABOUT THAT PIECE, UH, WAS MISSED QUITE FRANKLY.AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH INSPIRE AND THEIR TEAM AND STARTED TO WORK WITH MCKISSICK AND THEIR TEAM, THAT'S WHEN IT BECAME SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCOVERABLE.
UM, THE WSP TEAM STOPPED AT THE, AT THE STREET AND RATHER THAN CONTINUE ON ACROSS THAT SEAM THAT CONNECTS TO THEIR ENGINEERING, DID NOT GO THAT FAR.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, I'LL JUST CLOSE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM SAYING THIS.
I THINK THESE ARE FANTASTIC QUESTIONS.
APPRECIATE EVERYBODY DIGGING IN HERE.
UM, AND THIS TO ME REMINDS ME A LITTLE BIT OF ABOUT THE SCOTIA BANK CONVERSATIONS IN THAT, UH, WHEN THE, THE CITY TYPICALLY MOVES REALLY SLOW WHEN WE MOVE FAST BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET SOMETHING DONE.
WE ALL KIND OF, THERE'S A LEVEL OF DISCOMFORT WE ALL SHARE.
AND YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB, UM, OVERALL PULLING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER.
AND, UM, I'M, I SHARE MR. RIDLEY'S SKEPTICISM THAT WE CAN REALLY TRULY BE DONE BY SPRING, AS I WAS THINKING FALL IN MY HEAD.
BUT IF ANYBODY CAN DO IT, I KNOW YOU GUYS CAN, AND I KNOW THE WINGS ARE COUNTING ON US.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET'S GO ON TO BRIEFING ITEM NUMBER TWO.
THIS IS THE REVIEW OF THE ADVANCED SCHEMATIC DRAWINGS FOR THE FACILITY.
SO ON THIS ONE, THIS IS AGAIN, AN ITEM THAT WE COMMITTED TO CITY COUNCIL TO BRING BACK.
UM, AS WE WALK THROUGH AND ACCEPTED THE JOEY GEORGES PARK AS PART OF THE, AS PART OF THE SITE THAT WOULD BE USED FOR THIS PROJECT AND THE SIDING FOR THE SECONDARY FACILITY, WE AT THE SAME TIME BROUGHT FORWARD GENSLER AND ADDED THE SECONDARY FACILITY TO THEIRS TO PROVIDE THE COUNCIL WITH ADVANCED SCHEMATIC DRAWINGS SO THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT AND SEE HOW IT WOULD SIT ON THE SITE.
SO TODAY'S BRIEFING COVERS THAT.
UM, ON PAGE TWO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE GOT JUST KIND OF SOME OF THE BACKGROUNDS, AND THIS IS REALLY THE HISTORY.
UM, I WON'T READ ALL OF THIS TO YOU, BUT TAKES YOU THROUGH THE HISTORY OF HOW WE ARRIVED AT TODAY.
AND THEN THE SIDING IS ON PAGE THREE.
ONE MORE SLIDE PROVIDES THE LOCATION FOR THE JOY OR JUICES PARK AND WHERE WE ARE.
IF WE COULD ADVANCE TO SLIDE THREE.
SO, SO WE DO HAVE, UM, PARK AND RECREATION HERE, UH, RYAN O'CONNOR, UM, IF HE'D LIKE TO COME UP AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH THE ACTUAL SITE FOR US, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE SITE DESIGN THAT GENSLER HAS DONE.
RYAN O'CONNOR, DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION.
SO JUST TO GET EVERYBODY ORIENTED HERE, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY GEORGE REGUS PARK.
THIS IS A 190 APPROXIMATE ACRES SOUTH OF I 30 ADJACENT TO, UH, APPROXIMATELY AL HILL ROAD.
THIS IS IN THAT, UH, THAT WAREHOUSE DISTRICT.
LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR MAP, THE AERIAL SPECIFICALLY, YOU'LL SEE A STREET KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE THAT IS CALLED STONE MESA.
SO THIS DEVELOPMENT IS OCCURRING ON THE EAST SIDE OF STONE MESA, WHICH IS A RELATIVELY FLAT 40 SOME ODD ACRE TRACT OF LAND.
UM, THAT WILL BE THE LOCATION FOR THE, THE, NOT ONLY THE PRACTICE FACILITY, BUT ALSO THE OTHER, UH, ANCILLARY IMPROVEMENTS AS A PART OF THE PROJECT.
AND RYAN'S HERE TO, IF THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS WE HAVE LATER ABOUT ANY, ANY OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARK, WE'LL TALK THROUGH THAT.
BUT I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO FBA THOMAS, WHO WILL INTRODUCE HERSELF.
GOOD AFTERNOON, FBA THOMAS WITH GENSLER WITH THE DESIGN ARCHITECT AND ARCHITECT OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, IF YOU WOULD ADVANCE TO, YEAH, THE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE, ON THE SCREEN, IT SHOWS THE GENERAL PROGRAM ORGANIZATION ON THE SITE.
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TAKEN CUES FROM WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, THE STONE MESA ROAD, AND THAT IS THE MAIN ACCESS TO THE FACILITY.UH, IT'S ORGANIZED BASED ON THE PUBLIC COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE PLAYER COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT.
SO IT'S A VERY INTUITIVE, UH, SITE ORGANIZATION.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE FOLLOWING PAGE IS THE, UH, THREE DIMENSIONAL SITE PLAN OF THE PROJECT, WHICH WOULD HELP UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SOUTH OF THE PAGE IS THE MAIN PARKING LOT, THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING THAT WOULD LEAD INTO THE COMMUNITY COMPONENT AND THE LOBBY AND THE LARGER MASS IN THE MIDDLE HOUSES.
MOST OF THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES, THE COURTS, UM, EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT? OH, THANK YOU.
UH, SO THE, THE SITE, UM, IS ORGANIZED BASED ON THE COMMUNITY ACCESS TO THE SITE AS WELL AS THE PLAYER ACCESS TO THE SITE.
SO THE COMMUNITY ACCESS IS WHAT YOU SEE AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PAGE WITH PARKING LOTS LEADING INTO THE MAIN COMMUNITY LOBBY AND THE PORTION THAT ROSA WAS REFERRING TO BEFORE.
THIS PROJECT HAS A VERY ROBUST COMMUNITY COMPONENT TO IT, WHICH INCLUDES A PUBLIC LOBBY, UM, UH, MEETING ROOMS, FLEXIBLE MEETING ROOMS, AS WELL AS SOME LOCKER FACILITIES.
UH, THE INTENTION OF THIS SPACE IS FOR PLANNED ACTIVITIES, COMMUNITY EVENTS, YOUTH CLINICS, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS HOSTED BY BOTH THE WINGS AS WELL AS THE CITY AND THE PARK AND REC.
WHAT YOU SEE IN THE LARGER MASS IN THE MIDDLE IS ALL OF THE ATHLETIC FACILITIES, WHICH IS COURTS AND RECOVERY TRAINING, STRENGTH TRAINING, COACHING, BASKETBALL, O OPS, ALL OF THE TYPICAL AMENITIES THAT'S IN, UH, WNBA TRAINING FACILITY.
AND THE BACK PORTION IS THE DEDICATED PLAYER PARKING LOT.
THAT WOULD BE THE ACCESS TO THE FACILITY IN THE FOLLOWING PAGE.
THE SITE PLAN IS REALLY JUST A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION, UM, IN TWO DIMENSION.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU HAVE, UH, A SPECIFIC TO THE SITE ORGANIZATION.
BUT IF YOU WANNA MOVE INTO THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, THE FIRST VIEW INDICATES THE MAIN ACCESS.
AND THIS WOULD BE TWO MORE SLIDES AHEAD, IF WE CAN GO INTO THAT FIRST 3D VIEW.
I HEAR WE'RE HAVING LAGGY WIFI, SO IF THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, IT'S JUST TAKING A SECOND TO LOAD EACH SLIDE.
SO THE, THE VIEW THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE INTO THE PROJECT.
AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TOWARDS THE RIGHT OF THE PAGE IS THE COMMUNITY LOBBY AND ACCESS INTO THE BUILDING.
VERY, UM, SIMPLE BUT EFFECTIVE DESIGN.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, PURPOSEFUL IN ITS ORGANIZATION.
UM, AND IT IS REALLY JUST MEETING THE NEEDS AND GIVING THEM A STATE OF THE ART FACILITY, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE BEING MINDFUL OF THE CITY'S FUNDS AND BUDGETS.
GOING INTO THE NEXT PAGE, THAT IS THE PLAYER ENTRY, WHICH IS FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT SITE.
THIS IS A DEDICATED PLAYER AND STAFF ENTRY THAT LEADS INTO, UH, SMALL VESTIBULE LOBBY AREA, AS WELL AS THEIR DINING FACILITIES AND LIFESTYLE SUITE.
THE PAGE FOLLOWING THAT IS A VIEW OF THE PROJECT FROM STONE MESA ROAD, AND THERE ARE TWO CURB CUTS THAT WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS INTO THE SITE.
ONE FOR THE PUBLIC ACCESS, UM, ONE FOR SERVICE ACCESS, WHICH ALSO THEN IS CONNECTED TO THE PLAYER PARKING LOT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SPECIFICS OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, BUT I'M SURE YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT THE, THE PLANNING OF THE FACILITY ITSELF.
THE FOLLOWING PAGE HAS SOME EXTERIOR MATERIALS THAT WE'RE UTILIZING TO KEEP IT, UM, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND OPERATIONALLY FUNCTIONAL.
UM, METAL PANELS, SOME PERFORATED METAL PANELS, POLYCARBONATES, UM, SHEETS AND, UM, CONCRETE, UH, PANELS.
SO FAIRLY SIMPLE, EFFECTIVE, EASY TO EASY AND QUICK TO DIRECT, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, BUDGET FRIENDLY.
IN A COUPLE OF PAGES, THERE'S THE FLOOR PLAN, UH, OF THE PROJECT.
UH, WE'VE ORGANIZED IT BY COLOR BLOCK, SO IT'S EASY TO KIND OF SEE WHERE THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS ARE, HOW THEY'RE ARRANGED THROUGHOUT THE, THE FLOOR PLAN.
SO ON THE PAGE SOUTH IN THE LAVENDER COLOR, THAT IS THE COMMUNITY LOBBY, UH, WHICH IS A FLEXIBLE SPACE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LARGE GATHERINGS, BUT ALSO SMALLER MEETINGS BECAUSE
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THERE ARE MEETING ROOMS THAT CAN BE DIVIDED INTO, UM, AND ENCLOSED INTO SEPARATE MEETING ROOMS. AND THEN AS WELL AS THE AUXILIARY LOCKER ROOMS ADJACENT TO IT.THE BLUE BLOCK THAT YOU'RE SEEING TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PAGE, UH, IS THE BASKETBALL OPERATIONS, ADMINISTRATIVE AND COACHING FACILITIES.
THE CENTER BLOCK, WHICH IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THIS, OF THE FACILITY IS THE PRACTICE COURTS.
THERE ARE TWO FULL-SIZE PRACTICE COURTS THAT CAN BE DIVISIBLE AS WELL.
SO THEY CAN HAVE TWO SIMULTANEOUS EVENTS, PRACTICE AND OR COMMUNITY EVENTS IF, IF NECESSARY.
AND THEN ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT PRACTICE COURT IS THE STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING FACILITY WHERE THEY DO TRAINING AND TREATMENT THERAPY.
UH, THE GREEN PORTION IS WHERE THEY DO ALL OF THE RECOVERY, UM, AND, AND THERAPY SESSIONS INCLUDING, UM, HYDROTHERAPY.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PAGE IS ALL OF THE PLAYER AMENITIES, INCLUDING THEIR LOCKER ROOMS, KITCHEN, DINING AREAS, LIFESTYLE SUITES, AND WELLNESS SUITES.
SO, UM, IT HAS A VERY, UM, IT IS ORGANIZING ALL OF THIS PROGRAM IN A VERY, UM, SMALL FOOTPRINT, IF YOU WILL, A COMPACT FOOTPRINT TO MAKE IT VERY EFFICIENT FOR CIRCULATION OPERATION.
AND THEN THE BLUE BLOCK THAT YOU'RE SEEING TO THE RIGHT OF THE PAGE THAT IS FLOATING ON THE PAGE, THAT IS ACTUALLY THE MEZZANINE LEVEL OR THE SECOND STORY THAT SITS ABOVE, UH, THE LOWER LEVEL OF THE ADMIN.
IT IS, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL ADMIN SPACES, OFFICES FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND COACHES, AS WELL AS A DRAFT ROOM IN THE FOLLOWING PAGES.
THERE ARE SOME INTERIOR RENDERINGS, UM, WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE WITH, UM, WITH THEIR SCHEMATIC DESIGN.
THERE'S A VIEW OF THE WINGS LOCKER ROOM, AS WELL AS THE DINING LOUNGE AREA.
THIS IS THE SPACE THAT, UM, PLAYERS AND STAFF WOULD WALK INTO FROM THEIR PARKING AREA.
SO IT HAS A SMALL CHECK-IN DESK AS WELL AS, UM, DINING FACILITIES IS, UH, ALONG WITH LOUNGE AREAS, WE'VE PROVIDED A PALLET OF ALL OF THE INTERIOR MATERIALS, UH, BEING USED.
UM, PRETTY FUNCTIONAL, MINIMALISTIC, BUT ALSO, UH, SOPHISTICATED TO ALLOW THEM THE, UH, EASE OF USE OF THE SPACE AS WELL AS LONG-TERM DURABILITY.
SO ON THIS NEXT PAGE, WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT.
WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS FORWARD TO YOU AS AN ESTIMATE, WE WERE AT 54 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION WITH NO SOFT COST.
THIS 48.6 MILLION IS YOUR ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION BUDGET AND INCLUDES YOUR SOFT COST, SO DOES INCLUDE THE FEE FROM MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK GENSLER'S FEE AND, AND THE CMAR.
SO ALL IN AT CURRENT PRICES, UM, FOR PREFAB BUILDING AND FOR THE INTERIORS AND, AND OTHER MATERIALS THAT FEBA DESCRIBED IN THE SCHEMATIC, IT'S AT 48.6 AND WE PROVIDED THE, UH, FUNDING SOURCES BELOW.
THOSE HAVE NOT CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME WE CAME FORWARD.
STILL SOME FUNDS FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND, WE'RE WORKING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE SOME FUNDING FROM THAT SOURCE.
THERE IS SOME STATE FUNDING FROM A STATE REPRESENTATIVE WHO IS, UH, PUTTING MONEY INTO THE PROJECT FOR US, AND THEN SOME PRIVATE FUNDS AND CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE DALLAS WINGS.
SO THOSE SOURCES HAVE NOT CHANGED FROM THE LAST TIME, UH, WE PROVIDED A BRIEFING TO YOU.
SO NEXT STEPS WOULD BE THERE IS A GROUNDBREAKING FOR THE FACILITY THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN INVITATION FOR, FOR THIS FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH AT 10:00 AM IT'LL BE ALONG THAT STONE MESA DRIVE CORRIDOR THAT YOU SEE IN THE DRAWINGS.
WE'LL DO A CONTINUATION AND FINALIZATION OF ENVIRONMENTAL WORK.
UH, WE HAVE DONE SOME REMEDIATION THROUGH TERRACON ALREADY, AND SO THAT'LL BE FINALIZED.
WE'LL BEGIN THE FENCING, ERECTION AND GEOTECHNICAL WORK, AND THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOU IN OCTOBER, ASSUMING THAT YOU ARE, UH, READY TO DO A RECOMMENDATION
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THAT WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THESE ADVANCED SCHEMATICS INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCS.I'LL START ON THIS SIDE AND YEP.
MS. BLACKMAN, UM, THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
UM, ON YOUR BREAKDOWN, YOU DON'T GIVE WHAT PERCENTAGE OR WHAT AMOUNTS ARE FOR EACH, ARE YOU PREPARED TO GIVE IT TO US NOW? I CAN, IF I COULD, UM, PUT THAT IN A, IN A MEMO TO YOU, I CAN DO THAT.
SO, BUT I CAN'T, BUT THE, SO CONVENTION CENTER CONSTRUCTION FUND, UH, WILL BE AT AROUND, UH, 25, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDING, I I AROUND 10 FOR THAT.
AND THOSE ARE DOLLARS, NOT 10 THOU 10 MILLION, MILLION DOLLARS MM-HMM
AND THEN THE STATE FUNDING IS GONNA BE THE, THE CLOSING PORTION OF THE PROJECT.
SO WHATEVER'S LEFT AFTER THE $3.1 MILLION FROM THE WINGS AND PRIVATE FUNDS THAT ARE COMING IN AT ANOTHER, AT ANOTHER 10.
AND THEN THE STATE FUNDING WILL BE THE GAP FUNDING.
NOW ON THE STATE FUNDING, WAIT, SO HOLD ON A SECOND.
PRIVATE AND DALLAS WINGS ARE COMBINED 10 OR EACH 10 OR WHAT? NO, THE PRIVATE FUNDS ARE 10, AND THE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE WINGS ARE 3.1 MILLION, 3.1 MILLION, AND THEN THE REST IS COMING FROM THE STATE.
AND ON THE STATE FUNDING, I MAY HAVE TO PROVIDE IT FIRST FROM THE CONSTRUCTION FUND AND THEN IT BE REIMBURSED, BUT IT, IT WILL COME AND REIMBURSE THE PROJECT, MAKE MY CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND WHOLE.
AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUNDING IS COMING FROM WHERE, WHICH FUND, WHICH BE WHICH POT OF MONEY? SO THERE IS A TIFF COULDN'T UNMUTE THERE, IT'S DAVIS GARDEN TIFF, BUT THE, IT DOES A GO THROUGH THE TIFF BOARD AND THEN THROUGH COMMITTEE.
I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS, UH, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT FIVE SOURCE OF FUNDS GOING INTO ONE USE, WHAT IS OUR PLAN IF ONE OF THE FUNDS DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE? SO SAY THE, THE STATE SAYS I'M NOT DOING GAP, OR SOMETHING HAPPENS AT THE TIF BOARD.
DO WE HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT? SO THE MOST VOLATILE WOULD OBVIOUSLY PROBABLY BE THE STATE FUNDING.
AND SO I WOULD, UH, USE AN ADDITIONAL, SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM OUR CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUND.
SO THE CONVENTION CENTER'S GONNA BE PICKING UP ANY DELTAS.
YES, IT'S PART OF THE MASTER PLAN JUST OFFSITE.
AND SO THOSE FUNDS WERE SET ASIDE, UH, FOR THAT.
NOW THERE ARE SOME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ASKED ABOUT REVENUE AND AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME OF THIS, WE'RE NOT FINALIZED WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE A SPLIT OR A NUMBER YET, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT NAMING RIGHTS THAT CAN GO INTO THE PARK ITSELF.
RYAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS? WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SPLIT RIGHT NOW, BUT, BUT WE, I MEAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
THAT CAN BE, BUT BECAUSE I GET, I MEAN, 50,000 OR 50 MILLION, LET'S JUST ROUND IT UP, IS PROBABLY GONNA BE, IS A BIG PRICE TAG.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF, UH, BELLS AND WHISTLES IN THE FLOOR PLAN.
AND SO I'M WONDERING, IS THERE GONNA BE, UH, WAIT, IS THERE GONNA BE, UH, ADJUSTMENTS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN AND SAY, MAYBE WE CAN DO THIS ONE IN YEAR FOUR AND NOT DO IT TODAY.
SO WE SOME VALUE ENGINEERING, BECAUSE I, I MEAN 50 MILLION FOR A PRACTICE FACILITY AND I GET IT, BUT IT'S LIKE, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF THE LAYOUT AND THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS THAT YOU GO, DOES THIS NEED TO HAPPEN DAY ONE OR CAN IT HAPPEN DAY FIVE AS MORE FUNDING COMES IN? SO THAT WAY WE, WE, I MEAN, I GUESS I'M SAYING DON'T COME BACK TO US IF YOU NEED 50 MILLION OR MORE
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE PLAN.
AND I THINK, UM, SOME PERCENTAGE OF THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE SOFT COST AND INCLUDES THE ENVIRONMENTALS, IT INCLUDES THOSE OTHER THINGS, AND WE CAN PROVIDE A, A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT SPLIT IS.
SO THERE'S SOME PORTIONS OF THIS PROJECT THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE OUT ON THIS SITE, AS WE BEGAN TO ADVANCE THE PARK AND RECREATIONS MASTER PLAN AS A CITY FOR THIS SITE, SOME OF THESE COSTS WOULD'VE BEEN THERE, UM, ANYWAY, LIKE THE UTILITIES, ET CETERA.
SO WE'VE LOOKED AT, WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THAT IN TERMS OF RATIONALE FOR MAKING GOOD USE OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY.
BUT YES, WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THE WINGS.
WE'RE MEETING CONSISTENTLY TO SEE WHERE WE CAN VALUE ENGINEER, UH, THE PROJECT.
WE TOOK IT DOWN, UM, ALMOST 6 MILLION AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT.
I'LL ASK FEBA IF SHE COULD, OR DESMOND, IF THEY CAN TELL US ABOUT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO, TO
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VALUE ENGINEER IF NEED BE.YEAH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE ALREADY, THAT WAY WE CAN SEE HOW FAR WE CAN TAKE IT PAST THIS POINT.
UM, ORIGINALLY THE DESIGN WAS PROPOSED AS A TRADITIONAL BUILT IN PLACE STEEL STRUCTURE.
WE HAVE NOW GONE INTO A PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING, UH, DIRECTION, WHICH MAKES IT FASTER, CHEAPER TO ERECT, UH, BOTH FROM LABOR AND MATERIAL STANDPOINT.
SO THAT WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT VALUE ENGINEERING MOVE RIGHT THERE.
AND BY DOING THAT, WE'VE ALSO SIMPLIFIED THE FLOOR PLAN A LITTLE BIT AND YOU WOULD SEE EVERYTHING IS IN A PRETTY CLEAN BOX.
UM, WHICH IS USUALLY NOT TYPICAL WHEN YOU DO A PRACTICE FACILITY LIKE THIS.
YOU END UP HAVING A LOT OF INS AND OUTS IN THE PLAN, WHICH IN ITSELF IT'S NOT VERY EFFICIENT.
SO WE'VE MADE THE PLANNING ITSELF PRETTY EFFICIENT, EASY TO CONSTRUCT, FASTER TO CONSTRUCT, UM, FROM THE INTERNAL AMENITIES OF THE BUILDING.
RIGHT NOW, THE CHECKLIST OF THE PROGRAM IS THE BASICS, WHAT A-W-N-B-A TEAM WOULD NEED IN THEIR PRACTICE FACILITY.
UH, AS FAR AS TRAINING AND THERAPY AREAS AS WELL AS PRACTICE COURTS, THOSE ARE ALL KIND OF REGULATION SIZE.
IT IS HARD TO MAKE IT SMALLER, IF YOU WILL.
SO THE PLANNING AND THE PROGRAM ITSELF IS CHECKING ALL THE BOXES, WHAT A TYPICAL TEAM WOULD WOULD NEED IN THEIR, UH, PROFESSIONAL TRAINING FACILITY.
THE PORTION THAT WE'VE ADDED THAT OTHER FACILITIES DO NOT HAVE IS A PRETTY, UM, A ROBUST COMMUNITY COMPONENT THAT HAS THAT BAR IN THE, IN THE FRONT, WHICH ADDS FOR THE TEAMS, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONAL NEEDS, BUT ALSO, UM, THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO HOST EVENTS THERE AS AS AND WHEN NEEDED.
SO THOSE ARE ALL PORTIONS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IN THE COURSE OF THE PROJECT TO SEE IF WE CAN DEFER TO YOUR POINT, UM, IF WE CAN DEFER SOME OF THOSE TO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF A LATER DATE.
BUT ON THE STARTING DAY WHEN THE FACILITY OPENS FOR THE TEAM, THERE ARE CERTAIN PROGRAMS THAT WITHOUT WHICH THEY CANNOT FUNCTION, AND THAT, I'M SORRY, WHICH ARE, WITHOUT WHICH THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO USE THE FACILITY PROPERLY, WHICH WOULD BE THE COURTS, YOU KNOW, THEIR LOCKER ROOMS, UM, THEIR DINING FACILITY, BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN A, IT IS A LITTLE OFFSITE TO HAVING ALL OF THAT, UM, FUNCTIONAL ON DAY ONE WOULD BE IDEAL FOR THEIR, UM, OPERATIONS.
YEAH, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS LIKE A MASSAGE ROOM.
I MEAN, DO YOU REALLY NEED THAT ON DAY ONE OR COULD IT BE LIKE THERE'S A THERAPY ROOM THAT YOU CAN MAYBE USE UNTIL I'M, I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT, UM, YOU PUT OUT AND IT SAYS 48 MILLION IS PROBABLY GONNA COME IN AT 60, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE, AND I GET THE TILL I GET WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
BUT, UM, I JUST WANNA MANAGE EXPECTATIONS MM-HMM
BECAUSE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ENDLESS POTS OF MONEY.
AND SO THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND PARTNERS AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU SPONSOR OUR WEIGHT ROOM A, B, C WEIGHT COMPANY AND GET BIDDING, GO GET, GET BILLING FROM IT.
I MEAN, LET'S TAKE A PLAYBOOK OUTTA DALLAS COWBOYS.
THEY MARKET LIKE CRAZY AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE BECAUSE IF THEY WANNA STATE OF AN ART FACILITY, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND PARTNERS TO GIVE IT THAT, BECAUSE THE CITY CAN'T.
SO WE'RE GIVING 'EM WHAT WE THEY NEED, BUT ANYTHING ABOVE IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REALLY HUSTLE TO MAKE IT THE WHAT YOU WANT IT TO DO BECAUSE WE CAN'T, YOU CAN'T KEEP COMING TO THE, WELL, I MEAN, IT, IT'S A, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND, UH, WE WANNA FULFILL OUR CONTRACT AND WE WANNA KEEP 'EM HERE, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO THINK CREATIVELY IN, IN, IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO GET THEM.
WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, I'M LIKE, HOLY COW, THIS IS, I MEAN, I GET IT, YOU KNOW, ATHLETES NEED IT, BUT HOW DO WE GET IT THERE AND STILL, UM, AND STILL MAINTAIN A BUDGET.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING YOU GUYS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL OUR COFFERS ARE GETTING THINNER AND THINNER.
AND SO WE HAVE, UM, DONE SOME VALUE ENGINEERING.
WE'RE STILL MEETING, UM, LOOKING AT MATERIALS, LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE CAN USE A LESSER COSTLY MATERIAL TO ACHIEVE THIS, UH, ACHIEVE THE SAME FUNCTION AND THE SAME FUNCTIONALITY AND THE SAME LOOK.
RIGHT? AND SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THIS.
THIS IS OUR FIRST PASS TO SEE IF YOU, UH, GIVE US A POLICY DECISION TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE CONSTRUCTION DROPS, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE CMAR TO START TO GO OUT AND START TO PRICE FOR US ONCE WE HAVE THEM ON BOARD AND BEGIN TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN REALLY VALUE ENGINEER SOME OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES.
I KNOW THIS IS A NEW BUILDING, BUT WHAT DOES THE, UM, MAINTENANCE LOOK LIKE FOR THIS BUILDING? IS THAT WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS OR
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OUR PARTNERS? UM, IN SUPPLEMENTAL NUMBER TWO, WHICH WE ARE, WHICH IS, UH, STILL BEING DEVELOPED AND AND REVIEWED BY BOTH PARTIES IS THAT THE DALLAS WINGS WILL DO THE DAY-TO-DAY MAINTENANCE, THE DAY-TO-DAY JANITORIAL, THE TAKE CARE OF THE SITE IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE FACILITY, AND THEN DO ALL OF THE CAPITAL NEEDS UP TO, UH, UP TO $10,000.WELL, THEY'LL NEED CITY APPROVAL BECAUSE IF SOMETHING ON A NEW BUILDING BREAKS AT AT THAT COST AND SOMETHING WENT WRONG ON A WARRANTED ITEM, AND SO WE'LL NEED TO, TO STEP IN, THEY'LL ALSO BE DOING THEIR OWN SECURITY FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE AND HAVE AGREED TO TAKE CARE OF, OF MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY SIDE IS ALSO TAKEN CARE OF WITHIN THAT, WITHIN THAT SCOPE.
UM, MR. RIDLEY? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
UM, I AM UNABLE TO ORIENT THE BUILDING ON THE AREA MAP BECAUSE THERE'S NO REFERENCE TO THE ADJOINING STONE, MESA DRIVE.
CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE THE BUILDING IS GOING ON THIS AREA MAP? CAN YOU BRING UP PAGE THREE ON THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE? I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU, SO FOR SAKE OF TIME, I'LL KEEP, I'LL KEEP TALKING.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE ON PAGE THREE, YOU'LL SEE PINNACLE PARK BOULEVARD, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE, UH, ROCK QUARRY ROAD THAT GOES THROUGH THERE WHERE, WHERE ROCK QUARRY ROAD LINES UP WITH THE, WITH THE WEST PARK AVOCADO INC.
AND SO THAT GRAY, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE THE, WHERE THE, UH, BUILDING USED TO SIT FOR THE, THE CEMENT COMPANY THAT WAS HERE, THAT IS THE, THE LOCATION OF THE ACTUAL FACILITY.
SO YOU'LL SEE STONE, MESA DRIVE IS THE MIDDLE ROAD DOWN THE MIDDLE THAT ENDS INTO, INTO THE, THE BUILDING, THE GRAY BUILDING THERE IS A CLEARED SITE.
SO STONE MACE IS THE UNNAMED STREET AT THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE GRAY BUILDING.
OKAY, UHHUH, THAT EXPLAINS IT.
NOW, THIS AREA HAS SEEN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT OVER THE YEARS MM-HMM
UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST BUDGET RISKS THAT YOU HAVE IS ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINATION FROM THAT INDUSTRY.
HAVE YOU DONE A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL SURVEY YET? SO THIS SITE WAS REMEDIATED, UH, EARLY ON WHEN IT WAS DONATED TO THE CITY.
AND THEN WE HAVE HAD TERRACON GO BACK OUT AND TEST AND DO BORINGS IN THE AREA, AND THEY HAD FENCED IT OFF, UH, JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, UH, BACK IN AUGUST TO REMEDIATE A FEW LITTLE POCKETS THAT THEY FOUND ON THE SITE AND TO SEND THOSE OUT FOR TESTING.
SO THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE, THE TESTING IS UNDERWAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE THINK IS THERE IS WHAT'S THERE.
AND SO FAR ALL OF THAT HAS COME BACK.
WE'RE WAITING FOR ONE LAST FINAL TEST.
AND I ASSUME THE ONLY SUBSURFACE EXCAVATION WILL BE FOR FOOTINGS FOR THE BUILDING STRUCTURE.
THERE'S NO UNDERGROUND PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.
I MEAN, THERE WILL BE SITE PREP FOR JUST, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING ITSELF, BUT WE ARE KEEPING THE AREA OF IMPACT TO A MINIMUM.
AND IN LOOKING AT THE FLOOR PLAN ON AN UN NUMBERED PAGE, UM, I, I AGREE.
THIS SEEMS LIKE A VERY EXTRAVAGANT FACILITY FOR A PRACTICE FACILITY.
UH, WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING? THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 70,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT INCLUDES THE MEZZANINE LEVEL ON THE UPPER, ON THE UPPER LEVEL.
SO WHAT WOULD THAT WORK OUT TO ON A PER SQUARE? UM, PER SQUARE FOOT COST BASIS, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHILE, WHILE DESMOND IS QUICKLY, UM, DOING THAT CALCULATION, I WANNA SAY IN A FACILITY LIKE THIS, IT IS NOT LIKE A STANDARD FIT OUT FACILITY.
THE COST, UM, IS IN THE EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS USUALLY, YOU KNOW, A NON-STANDARD EQUIPMENT LIKE A HYDROTHERAPY POOL OR IN THE WATER THERAPY POOL OR THE, THE PRACTICE COURTS THAT HAVE TO BE, UH, REGULATION SIZE WITH THE KIND
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OF BASKETBALL COURTS.SO THOSE ARE TYPICALLY HIGHER FINISH, FINISH OUT COSTS THAN A TYPICAL BUILDING.
AND I HAVE THAT SQUARE FOOT COST COMES OUT APPROXIMATELY $694 A SQUARE FOOT.
THAT SEEMS EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH FOR A PRACTICE FACILITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE HIGH QUALITY FINISHES.
WITH REGARD TO THE HIGH COST FOR THE HYDROTHERAPY POOL, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE.
THAT SEEMS TO ME TO BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DEFERRED FOR A LATER PHASE FOR FURTHER FUNDRAISING AND ISN'T IN A CENTRAL PART OF THE PRACTICE FACILITY.
I MENTIONED THAT JUST SO THAT YOU CAN BE CONSCIOUS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEFERRING SOME OF THESE EQUIPMENT COSTS FOR FURTHER FUNDING IN CASE THERE ARE BUDGET OVERRUNS IN THE UNDERLYING STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDING.
NOW, THE INTERIOR SHOT OF THE DINING LOUNGE WOULD INDICATE THAT THIS WOULD BE A CONCRETE FRAME BUILDING RATHER THAN STEEL.
UM, I THOUGHT YOU WERE INDICATING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A PREFAB STEEL STRUCTURE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, THE BIG BEAMS AND THE COLUMN THAT COMES DOWN.
YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY STEEL FRAME, BUT WRAPPED IN GYPSUM BOARD.
SO WE'VE JUST FINISHED IT OUT IN A GYPSUM BOARD THAT WAY IT IS, IT DOESN'T LOOK AS INDUSTRIAL, BUT UH, YES, IT IS A STEEL FRAME BUILDING.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE STEEL WILL BE A LONG LEAD ITEM.
HAVE YOU ALREADY ORDERED THE STEEL OR DO YOU HAVE TO GET TO A CERTAIN POINT IN THE DESIGN BEFORE YOU CAN DO THAT? SO WE NEED THE CONSTRUCTION DOCS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE ORDER, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH COMPONENT ONE WHO IS, THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE OF ORDERING TO BE ABLE TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME ECONOMY OF SCALE IN ORDERING AT THE SAME TIME.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'LL ALSO SEE SOME REDUCTION IN COSTS.
SO AS WE BRING THE CMAR ON, I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'LL DO THAT YOU'LL START TO SEE SOME OF THIS COST COME DOWN.
AND THEN ON PAGE 19, THE FUNDING SOURCES, YOU INDICATED THE CONTRIBUTION FROM THE WINGS WOULD BE 3.1 MILLION IN CASH.
AND WHEN I INQUIRED OF ROBIN BENTLEY AS TO WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT THE WINGS WERE GONNA BE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS FACILITY, SHE SAID ZERO.
SO HAS THAT CHANGED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS? THAT HAS CHANGED.
THEY HAVE OFFERED, UH, 3.1 MILLION AND THEN TO TAKE ON THE DAY-TO-DAY, UM, COST OF THE BUILDING, INCLUDING THE JANITORIAL AND ALL THE, WHICH WE HAVE NOT COSTED OUT YET, WILL COST ONCE WE KNOW THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS FIRM AND ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE FIRM, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A FORMULA TO GIVE AN IN-KIND COST FOR THAT.
SO THE WINGS WILL COVER THE OPERATING MAINTENANCE, UM, AS LONG AS THEY OCCUPY THE BUILDING? CORRECT.
NOW THE STATE FUNDING OF THE GAP, IT PENCILS OUT TO WITHIN THE $48.6 MILLION BUDGET, ONLY 500,000.
IS THERE A LIMIT IF THERE ARE COST OVERRUNS IN THE PROJECT TO WHICH WE CAN EXPECT THE STATE TO FILL THE GAP? I'VE ASKED FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, SO I'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE THEIR CONFIRMATION ON THAT ACTUAL AMOUNT.
AND IN TERMS OF YOUR, YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT PRIVATE FUNDING, ONCE WE GET A LITTLE FURTHER IN DESIGN, BEYOND JUST THE CONCEPT DRAWINGS, THERE ARE PRIVATE FUNDERS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO ASK FOR, TO PAY FOR THINGS LIKE THE WHIRLPOOL, ET CETERA.
AND SO, BUT I JUST NEED TO ADVANCE THE DESIGNS A LITTLE MORE SO THEY'LL KNOW WHAT IT IS WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING THEM.
WELL, I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE AGGRESSIVE IN GOING AFTER THAT MONEY.
IT SEEMS TO ME EXPECTING 10 MILLION ON A $48 MILLION BUDGET IS ALREADY PRETTY AGGRESSIVE.
UH, BUT YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE THERE.
UM, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD MAXIMIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON OUR BOND FUNDS.
THE WINGS LIKE THIS FACILITY, I WOULD HOPE, RIGHT? WE HAVE THEIR SUPPORT.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM, UH, VERY CLOSELY TO ARRIVE AT THE PLANNING.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE, I MENTIONED THIS TO MR. O'CONNOR EARLIER.
WE HAVE A LITTLE UNKNOWN FACT I THINK OF THIS PART OF THE CITY IS THAT WE HAVE CHALK HILL TRAIL, UM, BEING CONNECTED IN THE NEAR AND FAR FUTURE.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE MONEY YET, BUT IT'S, IT'S COMING, UH, FROM DISTRICT SIX ALL THE WAY DOWN.
IT'S GONNA GO DOWN INTO DISTRICT THREE.
AND A BIG IMPORTANT PART OF THIS TRAIL IS COMING THROUGH THIS PARK.
SO ARE WE GONNA BE MEANINGFUL ABOUT CONNECTING THAT TRAIL AND THE THOUSANDS, HOPEFULLY, OF USERS TO THIS FACILITY IN THE FUTURE? THAT CERTAINLY, THAT'S CERTAINLY
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MY INTENTION.SO AS YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHALK HILL TRAIL DOES KIND OF TERMINATE IN THE PARK.
IT'S A PART OF THE MASTER PLAN.
ROSA AND I HAVE HAD, UH, CONVERSATIONS ABOUT INTEGRATING THAT DESIGN EFFORT INTO THIS LARGER PROJECT.
AND THEN TO CLOSE, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO COME TO OUR, UH, GROUNDBREAKING ON FRIDAY AT 10:00 AM RIGHT AT JOEY G PARK? YES.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED, SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU'RE AGREEING WE ADVANCE TO CONSTRUCTION DOCKS.
WELL, WE, IT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM.
BUT I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THE FEEDBACK FROM THE, FROM THE COUNT, THE COLLEAGUES.
IF RECITE THE TIME THAT WE CLOSE, DO I NEED TO RECITE THE TIME? YOU NEED THAT? OH, OKAY.
I'M A LITTLE RUSTY GUYS, SO BEAR WITH ME.
IT IS 3:12 PM AND THIS MEETING IS OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED.