HE IS GOOD. YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON. [00:00:08] MAYOR PRO TEM JESSE MORENO, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM GAY DONNELL WILLIS COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST, ZARIN D GRACEY MAXINE JOHNSON, JAIME RESENDEZ, LAURA CADENA, ADAM BAZALDUA, LORI BLAIR, PAULA BLACKMON, KATHY STEWART, WILLIAM ROTH, CARA MENDELSOHN, PAUL E RIDLEY, CITY MANAGER KIMBERLY BIZOR TOLBERT, CITY SECRETARY BILLY RAY JOHNSON, AND CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALOMINO. GOOD MORNING. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2025. [CALL TO ORDER] THE TIME IS 9:32 A.M.. I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. TODAY'S INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZARIN D GRACEY. GOOD MORNING. LET US BOW OUR HEADS IN PRAYER. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GATHER TODAY IN SERVICE TO THE GREAT CITY OF DALLAS AND ITS PEOPLE. WE COME BEFORE YOU, SEEKING YOUR GUIDANCE AND BLESSINGS UPON THIS MEETING AND ALL WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. LORD, YOUR YOUR WORD REMINDS US IN JAMES THAT TRUE WISDOM IS PROVEN THROUGH HONORABLE LIVING, GOOD WORKS DONE WITH HUMILITY. WE PRAY FOR THE MAYOR, JOHNSON AND ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS GATHERED HERE TODAY. GRANT US THIS DIVINE WISDOM AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL IMPACT THE LIVES OF OUR FELLOW DALLASITES. HELP US TO APPROACH EVERY DECISION, EVERY ISSUE WITH INTEGRITY, TO SEEK WHAT IS HONORABLE AND JUST, AND TO REMEMBER THAT THERE IS A CALLING TO DO GOOD WORKS FOR OTHERS. WE PRAY FOR OUR DEDICATED CITY STAFF, THOSE WHO WORK TIRELESSLY BEHIND THE SCENES TO KEEP OUR CITY RUNNING, WHO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS WITH PROFESSIONALISM AND CARE. BLESS THEIR EFFORTS AND GIVE THEM STRENGTH FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK THEY DO EACH DAY. FATHER, WE LIFT UP THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS FROM OUR BUSTLING DOWNTOWN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE GREAT CITY. MAY THE DECISIONS IN THIS CHAMBER TODAY REFLECT A HEART FOR SERVING THEM WELL. HELP OUR LEADERS TO APPROACH THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WITH HUMILITY THAT COMES FROM TRUE WISDOM, REMEMBERING THAT LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT SERVICE TO OTHERS. GUIDE THE DISCUSSIONS TODAY, LORD, MAY THEY BE CONDUCTED WITH RESPECT, WISDOM, AND GENUINE DESIRE TO BUILD OUR COMMUNITY UP. HELP ALL PRESENT TO LISTEN WELL, SPEAK THOUGHTFULLY, AND WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF DALLAS WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON OUR CITY AND ALL WHO CALL IT HOME. IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. THANK YOU. NOW, PLEASE, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I HONOR SORRY. ALL RIGHT, BEFORE WE START OUR OFFICIAL BUSINESS, WE DO HAVE TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING. [Additional Item 1] ONE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LORI BLAIR. I HAVE A SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR RADIO TALK HOST DEE-DEE MAGUIRE. K104 THE DOPEST RADIO BROADCASTER THERE IS. I'D LIKE TO READ. WHEREAS DEE-DEE DIDI MCGUIRE BEGAN HER JOURNEY IN BROADCASTING COMMUNICATION ON FM, A COUNTRY WESTERN STATION IN CENTRAL TEXAS, WHERE SHE WORKED AS A RECEPTIONIST BEFORE RISING TO BECOME ONE OF THE MOST RECOGNIZED VOICES IN AMERICA. RADIO. AND WHEREAS, DIDI DEMONSTRATED DETERMINATION AND RESILIENCE FROM HER EARLIEST BEGINNING WITH HER FIRST JOB PLACING FLIERS ON CARS AND ULTIMATELY GAINING NATIONAL PROMINENCE AS CO-HOST OF THE DOUG BANKS SHOW. AND WHEREAS, IN 2011, DIDI MADE BROADCASTING HISTORY BY LAUNCHING HER OWN MORNING SHOW, DIDI IN THE MORNING ON K104 KDAY IN DALLAS, TEXAS, BECOMING ONE OF THE FEW WOMEN IN THE UNITED STATES TO HOST A MAJOR MARKET MORNING RADIO SHOW. AND WHEREAS DIDI IN THE MORNING HAS GROWN INTO A NATIONALLY SYNDICATED RADIO PROGRAM, REACHING MILLIONS OF LISTENERS ACROSS MORE THAN 80 MARKETS DAILY, CEMENTING DIDDY'S ROLE AS A TRAILBLAZER AND [00:05:04] INSPIRATION FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS OF WOMEN IN MEDIA. AND WHEREAS DIDDY HAS EXPANDED HER CAREER BEYOND RADIO, APPEARING IN HIT MOVIES LIKE THE BEST MAN AND FOUNDING DEDE MCGUIRE INC., WHICH INCLUDES DIDDY'S DOPE PODCAST, DOPE CAST MEDIA AND LIVE EVENTS SHOWCASING HER ENTREPRENEURIAL VISION. AND WHEREAS COMMITTED TO UPLIFTING COMMUNITIES, DIDDY ESTABLISHED THE DIDDY MCGUIRE FOUNDATION, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO EMPOWERING UNDERSERVED FAMILIES THROUGH EDUCATION, MENTORSHIP, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, SCHOLARSHIP, LITERACY PROGRAMS, AND SIGNATURE COMMUNITY EVENTS SUCH AS THE WINTER WONDERLAND BALL AND THE WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH EXPO. AND WHEREAS, HER FOUNDATION HAS CREATED LIFE CHANGING OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH INITIATIVES SUCH AS DIDI DO OVER SCHOLARSHIPS TO THE ACHIEVE THE DREAM HBCU SCHOLARSHIPS AND THE WE GOT YOU GIRL PROGRAM FOR WORKING MOTHERS. AND WHEREAS, DIDI'S MANY CONTRIBUTIONS HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED WITH NUMEROUS AWARDS, INCLUDING THE WOMEN OF POWER IN RADIO AWARD IN 2024 AND HER UPCOMING INDICATE INDICATION INDUCTION AS A 2025 MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL RADIO HALL OF FAME. ONE OF THE HIGHEST HONORS IN BROADCASTING. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, DO HEREBY EXTEND A SPECIAL RECOGNITION ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2025 TO DEEDEE MCGUIRE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. SIGNED ERIC MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. I AM, I AM I SUPPOSED TO PUSH THIS TO TALK? I SEE. OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HOLD IT. I DON'T HAVE TO PUSH IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HOLD IT. OH, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BLAIR. I WOULD JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS REAL QUICK. I'M NERVOUS, AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A ROOM LIKE THIS BEFORE. AND YOU GUYS SITTING HERE IN THE CIRCLE, I SEE YOU ON TV OR THE SEMICIRCLE. I SEE YOU ON TV. AND NOW FOR ME TO STAND HERE, IT'S VERY INTIMIDATING. JUST SO YOU KNOW AND I'VE MET AND TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT THIS IS REALLY A LOT. SO IF I START SWEATING AND YOU SEE SWEAT COME DOWN MY TEMPLE, I APOLOGIZE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF DALLAS. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS. I'VE BEEN ON THE RADIO HERE IN DALLAS FOR 15 YEARS, AND MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT I HIGHLIGHT EVERY CITIZEN IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DO AS MUCH AS I CAN TO GIVE BACK. I'M GOING TO GET EMOTIONAL. I WANT TO THANK SERVICE BROADCASTING AND K104. MY BOSS, GIO COOK IS HERE WHO SAW THE VISION FOR WHAT THIS SHOW COULD DO AND HOW WE CAN CHANGE LIVES HERE IN DALLAS. I WANT TO THANK MY STAFF IS HERE. MY MY STAFF, DAVID CARTER AND MR. JOHN J. CRUZ AND TREY G. AND TRACY. MY WHOLE STAFF IS HERE. JEN AND SHERRY, I JUST THANK EVERYONE AND WE JUST WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF DALLAS. THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR. THANK YOU, LORI BLAIR, FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THE CITY. AND IF THERE'S EVER ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR YOU OR THE CITY OF DALLAS, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CALL US. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS WONDERFUL HONOR. AND I HOPE I DIDN'T EMBARRASS MY MOM. MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR, CAN WE GET A PICTURE? CAN I? BY THE WAY, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE TO GET DOWN TO BUSINESS, BUT CAN I TAKE A QUICK PICTURE, PLEASE? COME ON DOWN HERE. OKAY. I GOT IT. WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO GO? YEAH. OH. OH! COME ON. [00:11:05] THANK YOU. WELL, NEXT HEAR FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. TODAY, AS A PART OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE A DALLAS RESIDENT WHO IS DOING TREMENDOUS WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY [Additional Item 2] AND PUTTING OUR CITY ON THE MAP. THROUGH HIS CONTRIBUTION TO THE FILM INDUSTRY, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO UPLIFT THE VOICES OF OUR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WORKING IN INDUSTRIES WHERE THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN UNDERREPRESENTED. ESPECIALLY ON A DAY LIKE TODAY WHEN OUR COMMUNITY IS BEING TARGETED TO STOKE FEAR IN OUR CITY. TODAY, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE MERCED ELIZONDO FOR THE SUCCESS OF HIS TWO FILMS, MANOS DE ORO AND THE MORNING OF. THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING OUR CITY AND FOR CHOOSING TO CREATE AND CREATE AND FILM YOUR WORK RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. WHEREAS MERCED ELIZONDO IS AN ACCLAIMED DALLAS FILMMAKER WHOSE WORK HAS ACHIEVED INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION WHILE UPLIFTING LATINO VOICES AND REPRESENTATION IN CINEMA. AND WHEREAS HIS FILM MANOS DE ORO HANDS OF GOLD, CREATED IN 2019 AND COMPLETED IN 2020, SCREENED AT PRESTIGIOUS FILM FESTIVALS INCLUDING THE OSCAR QUALIFYING HOLLYSHORTS FILM FESTIVAL, LA SHORTS INTERNATIONAL, LA LIFT, THE MIAMI FILM FESTIVAL AND THE ACADEMY OF MOTION PICTURE ARTS AND SCIENCES IN FOCUS LATINX AND HISPANIC CINEMA SERIES. AND WHEREAS HIS MOST RECENT FILM, THE MORNING OF PRODUCED IN DALLAS FORT WORTH IN 2023 WITH A MAJORITY LATINO CAST AND CREW, PREMIERED INTERNATIONALLY AT THE FESTIVAL INTERNATIONAL DE SCENE IN GUADALAJARA F I C G, THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS FILM FESTIVAL IN ALL OF LATIN AMERICA, AND WAS AN OFFICIAL SELECTION AT SEVERAL OSCAR QUALIFYING FESTIVALS, WINNING BEST LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM AT THE 2024 SAINT LOUIS INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL. AND WHEREAS THE MORNING OF IS NOW OFFICIALLY OSCAR QUALIFYING AND HAS ENTERED THE 2026 ACADEMY AWARDS CAMPAIGN, REPRESENTING A HISTORIC MILESTONE AS ONE OF THE FIRST FILMS MADE IN TEXAS BY A LATINO FILMMAKER WITH A MAJORITY LATINO CAST AND CREW TO PURSUE SUCH RECOGNITION. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ADAM BAZALDUA COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ON BEHALF OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ON THIS 24TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2025 DO HEREBY EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO MERCEDES ELIZONDO. WOULD. BUT. THEY'RE OKAY. GREAT. I WON'T BE TOO LONG. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM BAZALDUA, MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON AND THE REST OF CITY COUNCIL AND ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THIS INCREDIBLY SPECIAL RECOGNITION. I'M A DALLAS BOY. I WAS RAISED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. I LIVE HERE. I MAKE I'VE MADE MY CAREER HERE. I'VE HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO POTENTIALLY MOVE TO LOS ANGELES, [00:15:03] NEW YORK, AND ONE OF THE OTHER FILM CENTRIC HUBS IN THIS COUNTRY. BUT I CHOOSE TO STAY HERE. MY FRIENDS ARE HERE. MY FAMILY'S HERE. MY COMMUNITY'S HERE. I MAKE COMMUNITY DRIVEN CINEMA, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF MY FRIENDS AND MY FAMILY, MY PARENTS WHO ARE HERE WITH ME TODAY. THEY'VE BEEN SUPPORTING ME EVERY STEP OF THE WAY ACROSS THE FOUR FILMS THAT I'VE MADE UP UNTIL THIS POINT. AND JUST TO GET THIS RECOGNITION AT THIS POINT IN MY CAREER SO FAR, IT MEANS THE ABSOLUTE WORLD TO ME. DALLAS IS HOME. DALLAS WILL ALWAYS BE HOME NO MATTER WHERE I GO, NO MATTER WHAT I REPRESENT. DALLAS IS FOR ME. WHAT WHAT EVERYTHING IS, IS STEMMED FROM IN MY CAREER AND IN MY LIFE. SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY ONCE AGAIN. THIS IS AWESOME AND INCREDIBLY SPECIAL RECOGNITION, BUT WE STILL GOT A LONG WAY TO GO. I JUST TURNED 31 A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND THIS IS GREAT, BUT THE JOB'S NOT FINISHED AND GOT A LOT MORE MOVIES TO MAKE AND A LOT OF THEM TO BE MADE RIGHT HERE IN DALLAS. SO THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. LET'S GRAB A PICTURE AS WELL IF YOU WANT TO INVITE YOUR PARENTS TO COME DOWN. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL HEAR FROM OUR OPEN MIC SPEAKERS, MADAM SECRETARY. [OPEN MICROPHONE (Part 1 of 2)] THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS. I WILL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON. FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION. INDIVIDUALS ARE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS. YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR MORENO. ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, LINDA NEWLAND. HOWLEY MAYOR LINDA NEWLAND FROM DISTRICT SEVEN HERE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. DO Y'ALL BELIEVE IN THE ONE SIZE FITS ALL THEORY? IT SURE SEEMS THAT Y'ALL GO WITH THAT ONE SIZE FITS ALL THEORY, BECAUSE Y'ALL PLACE EXTRA FLUORIDE IN OUR WATER FOR ALL THE CITIZENS TO DRINK WITHOUT CONSIDERING THAT THOSE WHO WORK IN THE HEAT DRINK MORE WATER, AND THOSE THAT DRINK INSIDE A COOL BUILDING DRINK LESS, WHILE THOSE WITH LOW KIDNEY FUNCTION CANNOT EXCRETE EAT FLUORIDE AS WELL AS THOSE WITH KIDNEYS WORKING LIKE THEY SHOULD. MY GARIN COUNCIL. I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT BACK IN THE 1960S AND 1970S, DOCTORS DISCOVERED PATIENTS GETTING KIDNEY DIALYSIS, ACCUMULATED HIGH LEVELS OF FLUORIDE IN THEIR BONES AND BLOOD, WHICH LED TO FORMS OF OSTEOMALACIA, WHICH IS SOFTENING OF THE BONES. THEN THE DIALYSIS UNITS HAD TO BE MODIFIED TO FILTER OUT FLUORIDE. [00:20:06] KIDNEY DISEASE IS ONE OF THE SILENT KILLERS. NO ONE KNOWS THEIR KIDNEYS NEED HELP UNLESS TESTED. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ALL OF THIS IS DEFINITELY PROOF THAT A ONE SIZE THEORY IS NOT GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE READ THAT WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH, THE ONE SIZE FITS ALL THEORY DOES NOT APPROACH VERY GOOD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CONSIDER METABOLIC, NUTRITIONAL, AND GENETIC DIFFERENCES. MOST OF THE CITIZENS NOWADAYS KNOW THAT FLUORIDE IS A TOXIN. HOWEVER, NOT ALL CITIZENS CAN AFFORD TO PURCHASE WATER THAT COMES FROM THE FAUCET AND ALSO PURCHASE WATER FROM STORE WITH NO FLUORIDE AND CANNOT AFFORD TO INSTALL A WHOLE HOUSE WATER FILTER. WHAT ABOUT THE US FEDERAL COURT RULING SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2024, THAT FOUND UNREASONABLE RISK OF INJURY, ESPECIALLY RISK IQ IN CHILDREN. AND YET DALLAS KEEPS CLEANING THE WATER, THEN ADDS THE FLUORIDE TOXIN. WHY IS THAT? AND OH, IT'S SO GREAT THAT NOT EVERYBODY PAID ATTENTION. Y'ALL WERE TALKING TO EACH OTHER. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU, MIRIAM SHARMA. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MIRIAM SHARMA, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY. HEARING THE NEWS THIS MORNING OF YET ANOTHER MASS SHOOTING MAKES ME EVEN MORE INSPIRED TO WORK TO END GUN VIOLENCE AND ENGAGE IN CIVIL DISCOURSE. SEPTEMBER IS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING SUICIDE PREVENTION A PRIORITY IN OUR CITY BY ADDRESSING THIS TOPIC, CONSIDERING THE DATA CAREFULLY AND ACTIVELY ENGAGING AND SUPPORTING THOSE WORKING TO PREVENT SUICIDE. TO HELP MORE PEOPLE AND OUR WONDERFUL CITY LIVE HAPPY AND HEALTHY LIVES. SUICIDE IS THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH FOR TEENS AND YOUNG ADULTS AGE 10 TO 34, IN THE UNITED STATES, AND ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN FOUNDATION FOR SUICIDE PREVENTION, APPROXIMATELY 12 PEOPLE DIED BY SUICIDE EACH DAY IN TEXAS IN 2023. AS A VOLUNTEER WITH OUR LOCAL DALLAS MOMS DEMAND ACTION FOR GUN SENSE IN AMERICA GROUP, I WANTED TO BRING AWARENESS TO THE FACT THAT SUICIDE BY FIREARM ACCOUNTS FOR MORE THAN HALF OF ALL SUICIDE DEATHS IN TEXAS AND IN THE UNITED STATES. SADLY, AS A NATION, WE HAVE A GUN SUICIDE RATE NEARLY 12 TIMES THAT OF OTHER HIGH INCOME COUNTRIES, AND NEARLY 80% OF FIREARM SUICIDES BY CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 18 INVOLVE A FIREARM BELONGING TO A FAMILY MEMBER. THIS IS TRAGIC AND ONE OF THE REASONS AS A MOTHER, AS A DALLAS RESIDENT, FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS AND AS A NURSE, I SHARE THE EVIDENCE BASED BE SMART FOR KIDS MESSAGE, WHICH ENCOURAGES THE SECURE STORAGE OF FIREARMS IN HOMES AND VEHICLES AND AIMS TO DESTIGMATIZE DISCUSSIONS AROUND MENTAL HEALTH AND GUNS. THERE ARE MANY WAYS WE CAN WORK TO PREVENT SUICIDE, INCLUDING SOME OF THE IMPORTANT TACTICS ALREADY EMPLOYED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS. AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THIS SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH. I INVITE YOU TO CONNECT WITH ME AT BE SMART WITH ME DALLAS AT GMAIL.COM, AS I WOULD LOVE TO BRING THE BE SMART FOR KIDS SECURE STORAGE MESSAGE TO EACH OF YOUR DISTRICTS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR ALLOWING OUR TEAM TO BE AT THE MAYOR'S FAIR LAST MONTH. ALSO GRATEFUL THAT WE COULD SUPPORT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS EVENT A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING ALL YOUR EFFORTS TO KEEP MORE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. I TRULY BELIEVE WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WILLIE CHRISTMAS. OH, HELLO, THIS IS WILLIE. THIS IS VERY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOUR HIGHNESS MAYOR, FOR GIVING ME SOME TIME TO SPEAK HERE TODAY. ONE SECOND PLEASE. OH, YES. VERY NICE THAT YOU WOULD WORK FOR ME TO COME TO YOUR MEETING. PLEASE HOLD FOR ONE SECOND. YES. IT COULDN'T HOLD FOR ME FOR ONE SECOND, PLEASE. [00:25:07] YEAH. YOU YOU WOULD NEED TO DISPLAY YOUR YOUR FACE. I CANNOT, BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST AMENDMENT. PLEASE GET SOME HELP. WE WILL. THANK YOU. YEAH. IT'S SO VERY NICE THAT YOU'RE WITH ME. OKAY. WE ARE NOT. YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE MASK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. GREG ELLIS. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE DOING. JUST A COUPLE OF STATS FIRST. IT'S ESTIMATED AT 980 MILLION PEOPLE WORLDWIDE HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH SOME TYPE OF MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER. ANOTHER ONE IS THAT 700 IS ESTIMATED AT 720,000 PEOPLE WORLDWIDE. LIFE END BY SUICIDE EACH YEAR. AND IT'S ESTIMATED FROM 2021, THE LAST TIME IT WAS REPORTED THAT DALLAS HAS 292 SUICIDES EACH YEAR. AND SO BASED OFF OF THOSE STATS, WE STARTED A NONPROFIT, A FOUNDATION CALLED GETTING MY HELP. GETTING MY HELP MISSION IS TO CONNECT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO THEIR LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS. IN ORDER TO DO THIS, WE ARE WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A MENTAL WELLNESS SYMPOSIUM. AND CURRENTLY WE'RE TRAVELING AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH THE SYMPOSIUM. THE SYMPOSIUM CONSISTS OF THESE FOUR THINGS INTRODUCING THE GETTING MY HELP APP, WHICH IS THE APP THAT PEOPLE CAN USE TO CONNECT WITH LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS. THE SECOND THING WE DO, WE SHOW A FILM WE TALKED ABOUT THE FILM, I THINK, LAST YEAR HERE. AND WE'RE SHOWING THAT FILM AS A PART OF THE SYMPOSIUM AS WELL. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE FILM, WE HAVE A PANEL DISCUSSION. THAT PANEL DISCUSSION IS LED BY LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS FROM THAT PARTICULAR CITY. AND THEN THE LAST THING WE DO IS OPEN UP FOR A Q&A. AND THAT Q&A IS LED BY PROFESSIONAL MENTAL HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS IN THAT LOCAL CITY AS WELL. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY TRAVELING AROUND THE COUNTRY DOING THAT SYMPOSIUM. WE ARE NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT TO DALLAS. OKAY. WE'VE DONE IT SEVERAL TIMES. NORTH CAROLINA SCHEDULED TO GO TO CHICAGO. AND SO NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT HERE TO DALLAS. I JUST WANT TO EXTEND THE OPPORTUNITY. OPPORTUNITY, WANT TO REACH OUT TO EACH OF YOU AND YOUR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS AND PRAYERFULLY HAVE THE SYMPOSIUM COME THERE. YOU CAN CONTACT US. BUT WE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU. BUT IF YOU WANT TO REACH OUT TO US IT'S JUST INFO AT GETTING MY HELP.COM AGAIN. IT'S INFO AT GETTING HELP. COM. WE LAUNCHED IT OFF LAST NIGHT WITH A SOFT LAUNCH. LUNCH OVER AT IN ANGELICA MOVIE THEATER. AND WE HAD, LIKE, TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO SOME PARTNERS THAT HELPED PULL THAT ONE OFF LAST NIGHT. REALLY BENEFICIAL. BUT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE NORTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ORGANIZATION ASSOCIATIONS OF PERSONS AFFECTED, AFFECTED BY ADDICTION, AND THEN THE BRIDGING THE GAP ORGANIZATION. AND SO PRAYERFULLY, WE CAN BRING THAT SYMPOSIUM TO YOUR ORGANIZATION. AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT THE PEOPLE IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES ARE NOT AWARE OF THEM. SO THANK Y'ALL. THANK YOU. SCOTT SPRAYER. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY. ALSO SPEAKING ON SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS MONTH. I'M SCOTT SPRINGER. I'M A SENIOR AMBASSADOR WITH GIFFORDS GUN OWNERS FOR SAFETY. I COME NOT ONLY AS A GUN OWNER, BUT ALSO AS A VETERAN AND A FORMER NRA CERTIFIED FIREARMS INSTRUCTOR. I USED TO TEACH BOY SCOUTS HOW TO SHOOT FOUR DECADES AGO. AFTER THE BREAKUP OF MY MARRIAGE, I DECIDED TO END MY LIFE. I WENT SHOPPING FOR A HANDGUN, BUT BEFORE I COULD PURCHASE ONE. FRIENDS AND A VERY GOOD THERAPIST INTERVENED, AND THE NEXT THING I KNEW, I WAS ON IN HANDCUFFS ON THE WAY TO THE COUNTY HOSPITAL, TO THE PSYCH WARD FOR A NICE THREE WEEK VACATION THAT SAVED MY LIFE. OTHERS AREN'T SO LUCKY. TODAY, FUELED BY OUR DIVISIVE CULTURAL AND SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT, A [00:30:10] CULTURE OF FEAR AND HATE, AS WELL AS THE ENDLESS BLOVIATION OF SOCIAL MEDIA. DEPRESSION IS ON THE RISE AND WITH IT, SUICIDE AND GUN VIOLENCE. WE SAW THAT AGAIN TODAY JUST A FEW HOURS AGO, JUST UP THE ROAD. ON AVERAGE, SOMEONE IS KILLED WITH A GUN EVERY TWO HOURS IN TEXAS. 58% OF THOSE DEATHS ARE BY SUICIDES. OUR SUICIDE RATE IN THE LONE STAR STATE HAS GONE UP ALMOST 30% IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. WHITE MEN, OVER 75 OF WHICH I AM ONE, ARE THE MOST LIKELY TO DIE BY SUICIDE. AND LET'S NOT FORGET THE VETERANS. VETERANS BETWEEN 18 AND 40 44, 18 AND 34 ARE THE MOST LIKELY OR I'M FUMBLING ARE. THE SUICIDE IS THE SECOND HIGHEST CAUSE OF DEATH OF VETERANS 18 TO 34. BUT STATISTICS DON'T TELL THE WHOLE STORY. THEY DON'T TELL THE COLLATERAL DAMAGE OF BROKEN HEARTS, BROKEN FAMILIES, AND THE LOSS AND GRIEF THAT NEVER DIES. WE MUST DO SOMETHING TO END THIS UNNECESSARY CARNAGE. NO, WE DON'T NEED TO GET RID OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT. WHAT WE NEED ARE SOME BASIC LAWS. REASONABLE REGULATIONS LIKE RED FLAG LAWS, SAFE STORAGE, NEITHER OF WHICH WE HAVE IN TEXAS NOW. PERSONALLY, I STORE MY GUNS IN A LOCKED SAFE WHICH I SHARE WITH MY WIFE, WHO PUTS ALL HER STUFF IN THE OTHER HALF OF IT. THAT'S YOUR TIME. BUT GIVEN. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MARVIN CRENSHAW HAS CANCELED. PATTY BROCKINGTON. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS PATTY BROCKINGTON. AND I REPRESENT THE DALLAS CHAPTER OF MOMS DEMAND ACTION IN AMERICA. I HAVE A UNIQUE STORY ON FIREARM SUICIDE, WHICH I'LL SHARE WITH YOU TODAY. THE LEADING CAUSE OF SUICIDE DEATH IS GUN SUICIDE IN THIS COUNTRY. AND I'M A SURVIVOR. I'M NOT A VICTIM. IN 1982. I WAS A VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME IN MY HOME, AND FROM THAT DAY, AN ALL CONSUMING FEAR AND DEPRESSION SEEMED TO TAKE OVER MY LIFE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. MY BROTHER HUNTER SUGGESTED A GUN WOULD MAKE ME FEEL MUCH SAFER. BUT THAT WAS SO WRONG. HE WASN'T HELPING ME. IN REALITY, I SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD A GUN. I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD EVER HAVE A GUN. HE DID TAKE ME TO A LOCAL FLEA MARKET IN GRAND PRAIRIE, WHERE I PURCHASED A NEW RUGER PISTOL. AND THE BULLETS? I KNEW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT GUNS. AND WHEN I GOT HOME, I REMEMBER SHAKING. AND I TOOK THE BULLETS AND LOADED THAT PISTOL. I POINTED IT IN THE GROUND. AND SHOT IT. I REMEMBER VIVIDLY LIKE BAM, BAM. MY HEAD WAS SPINNING IN FEAR AND I TOOK IT TO MY CLOSET AND I PUT IT IN THERE UNSECURED. I HAD TWO LITTLE BITTY CHILDREN. NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT AGAIN, I WAS AFRAID. DEPRESSION AND FEAR INCREASED THROUGH THE YEARS, AND SUICIDE ATTEMPTS BEGAN WITH DRUG OVERDOSES, ASPHYXIATION, AND ALCOHOL POISONINGS. ONE MORNING, FEELING HOPELESS AND ALONE, I REMEMBERED THAT PISTOL IN MY CLOSET. I HAD PUT IT AWAY YEARS AGO, AND THAT GUN WAS GOING TO BE A PERMANENT SOLUTION THAT DAY TO THE BEGINNING OF A VERY BAD DAY. BUT IT WAS GONE. YOU SEE, MY FAMILY KNEW THAT I WAS OF DANGER TO MYSELF AND HAD TAKEN THAT GUN OUT OF MY POSSESSION YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WITH MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING, MEDICATIONS, AND OTHER SELF-HELP PROGRAMS. I WAS ABLE TO TURN MY HEALTH HELP TURN MY LIFE AROUND IN A MOMS DEMAND ACTION MEETING IN SEPTEMBER OF 2018. IT WAS A MEETING ABOUT SUICIDE PREVENTION. EVERYTHING IN THIS STORY THAT I'VE SHARED CAME BACK TO ME. [00:35:01] I HAD PLACED THAT MEMORY FAR AWAY IN MY MIND. BUT THAT DAY I REMEMBERED IT ALL. I KNEW THAT DAY I WAS A SURVIVOR OF MY OWN SUICIDE. HAD THEM MY FAMILY NOT REMOVED THAT GUN. I WOULD NOT BE HERE TO SHARE MY STORY TODAY. I'M POSITIVE ABOUT THAT. THAT TODAY I ADVOCATE FOR SECURE STORAGE. I TELL MY STORY, HOPING THAT IT MAY HELP OTHERS TO UNDERSTAND THAT A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS AND A WEAPON ARE DANGEROUS COMBINATIONS. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY STORY. I HOPE THAT MY STORY OF SURVIVING SUICIDE MAKES YOU THINK. AND EVERYONE IN HERE, THAT'S YOUR TIME. HOW YOU CAN IMPACT OTHERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS. THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CONCLUSION OF ITS CITY BUSINESS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK OUR SPEAKERS FOR SHARING THEIR STORIES THIS MORNING WITH US. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO OUR VOTING AGENDA. MADAM SECRETARY. SECRETARY. SECRETARY. SECRETARY. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR. [MINUTES] WE'LL BEGIN WITH AGENDA ITEM ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL NEXT MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. [CONSENT AGENDA] THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, YOU DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON A FEW OF YOUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE DAVID WOODY THE THIRD. MR. WOODY, ARE YOU PRESENT? YOU MAY COME FORWARD. MR. WOODY HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 20, WHICH IS STILL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND ITEM 21, 22 AND 26. YOUR COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE STATES THAT MR. WOODY, WHEN YOU SIGN UP ON ONE ITEM, I MEAN MULTIPLE ITEMS, YOU ONLY GET THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON ALL ITEMS. SO ALTHOUGH THE OTHER ITEMS ARE PULLED, MR. WOODY WILL SPEAK ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 2021, 22 AND 26. THANK YOU, MISS JOHNSON. YOU'RE WELCOME. GOOD MORNING. I AM DOCTOR DAVID WOODY, THE THIRD PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE BRIDGE HOMELESS RECOVERY CENTER HERE IN DALLAS. AND I'M ASKING YOU TO CAREFULLY CONTEMPLATE AND APPROVE TODAY'S AGENDA. ITEM 21, AUTHORIZING FUNDING FOR THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES CONTRACT WITH THE BRIDGE AND AGENDA ITEMS 20, 22 AND 26, EACH AUTHORIZING FUNDING FOR CAMPUS OPERATIONS AND HOUSING SOLUTIONS. WE PREPARE THE BRIDGE GUESTS TO SUSTAIN STAYING SINCE OCTOBER 2024. EMPLOYEES OF THE BRIDGE HAVE ENGAGED OVER 6300 GUESTS, AND AT THIS TIME WE ANTICIPATE ENGAGING 1000 MORE THAN ALL OF LAST FISCAL YEAR. IN ADDITION, WE ARE HOSTING OVER 70 GUESTS. TWO THIRDS OF WHOM ARE FEMALE. IN OUR CAMPUS OVERFLOW NIGHT SHELTER, INCREASING OUR NIGHT SHELTER CAPACITY TO 400 GUESTS IN THE EVENING DUE TO THE LACK OF ADEQUATE NIGHT SHELTER WITHIN OUR LOCAL HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM. AGENDA ITEM 20. CONSIDER TODAY DESCRIBES THE RESULTS OF THE BRIDGE GROWING PARTNERSHIP WITH DALLAS COUNTY. WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT CONTINUED DALLAS COUNTY SUPPORT IS WITH US, AND HOPE YOU WILL AGREE TO ACCEPT $1.3 MILLION IN OPERATIONS FUNDING. THEY HAVE APPROVED AGENDA ITEM 21 DESCRIBES A RENEWAL OF FUNDING FOR THE CITY'S MANAGEMENT SERVICES CONTRACT WITH THE BRIDGE FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. I BELIEVE ONE ELEMENT OF THAT FUNDING, AN INCREASE IN THE REIMBURSEMENT RATE FOR OUR PAY TO STAY PROGRAM, CONTINUES TO BE AN EXCELLENT INVESTMENT IN HOMELESS RECOVERY FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE BRIDGES PARTICIPATION IN SAFE IN THE CITY INTERVENTIONS RECENTLY INITIATED WITH UNHOUSED CITIZENS IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. AGAIN, IT IS THE PARTNERSHIPS CRAFTED ON THE BRIDGE CAMPUS THAT MAKE THE BRIDGE A HOME, OFFERING OUR GUESTS A SPACE TO CONTEMPLATE THEIR EXIT FROM HOMELESSNESS, COMMIT TO A HOUSING PLAN, AND ACQUIRE TOOLS NECESSARY TO SUSTAIN A HOUSING SOLUTION IN OUR COMMUNITY. SINCE OCTOBER, OUR CARE MANAGEMENT TEAMS HAVE CONDUCTED OVER 21,000 SESSIONS, OUR PEER SUPPORT SPECIALISTS NEARLY 12,000 ENGAGEMENTS AND WE ARE ON TRACK TO CONNECT TO A HOUSING SOLUTION OVER 900 GUESTS THIS FISCAL YEAR. FINALLY, OUR DATA REFLECTS OUR HOUSING. FOLLOW UP ACTIVITIES RESULTS IN 95% OF THOSE HOUSED REMAINING IN THEIR HOME AFTER 12 MONTHS. SO THIS MORNING, THE CITY OF DALLAS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BRIDGE NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT, [00:40:06] YOUR LEADERSHIP AND APPROVAL OF ITEMS 2021, 22 AND 26 WILL SUSTAIN THE MOMENTUM THE BRIDGE CREATES AS WE ASPIRE TO ATTAIN OUR MISSION. EMPOWERING ADULTS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS WITH THE TOOLS TO HOMELESS RECOVERY AS THEY MOVE INTO SUSTAINABLE HOUSING. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WARREN TRENT. MR. TRENT WILL BE SPEAKING ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM 54. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS WARREN TRENT. I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE AT&T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER. JUST TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT TO THE TO THE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. IN 2005, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE DALLAS CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS SIGNED A USE AGREEMENT THAT CEMENTED A GROUNDBREAKING PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. BY ANY MEASURE, IT'S BEEN A SUCCESS. THE WINSPEAR OPERA HOUSE, WYLY THEATER, STRAUSS SQUARE, AND SAMMONS PARK. THAT'S OUR TEN ACRE PERFORMING ARTS CAMPUS IN THE HEART OF DOWNTOWN THAT SEES MORE THAN 400,000 VISITORS PER YEAR. IT WAS A VISION THAT COMPLETED THAT HELPED TO COMPLETE THE DALLAS ARTS DISTRICT. SO UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, THE CENTER DESIGNED, CONSTRUCTED, BUILT AND FUNDED 90% OF THE COST OF THE CENTER. THE CITY PROVIDED THE LAND AND THE FINAL 10%. AND AS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT, IT BROKE WITH PRECEDENT AND ESTABLISHED THAT IT WOULD BE THE CENTER AND NOT THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT CAMPUS AND COMPLETING CAPITAL PROJECTS. 16 YEARS IN, I HOPE YOU'LL AGREE THAT OUR CAMPUS LOOKS BEAUTIFUL AND WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. BUT WORK IS NEEDED TO KEEP THOSE IN TOP CONDITION. IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, THE CENTER HAS INVESTED $7 MILLION INTO MAJOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. AND LAST YEAR, CITY DALLAS VOTERS APPROVED A RECORD $75.2 MILLION FOR ARTS AND CULTURAL FACILITIES OWNED BY THE CITY, INCLUDING $13 MILLION FOR THE CENTER'S VENUES AND CAMPUS. SO, AS STEWARDS OF THE CAMPUS SINCE THE BEGINNING WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE IN THE BEST POSITION TO MANAGE THOSE PROJECTS. IN THE 2024 BOND. WE KNOW THE BUILDINGS BETTER THAN ANYONE. AND WE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR FOR THEIR CARE AFTER THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS ARE COMPLETED THE CITY MANAGER AND THE BOND OFFICE AGREED. SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY. AN AMENDMENT TO OUR USE AGREEMENT. TO BE CLEAR, UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, THE BOND OFFICE AND THE CITY WOULD STILL BE MANAGING THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. ALL CITY AND STATE PROCUREMENT LAWS WOULD BE WOULD BE FOLLOWED, AND THE CONTRACTS WOULD STILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR APPROVAL. REALLY, WHAT THIS CHANGES IS THAT WE'D BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THOSE PROJECTS ONCE APPROVED. THIS WILL HELP SAVE THE CITY THE BURDEN OF MANAGING THESE PROJECTS, AND WILL HELP ENSURE THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE MANAGED BY THOSE THAT WILL BE STEWARDING THE RESULTING WORK. IT ALSO MEANS THAT THE TRADITIONAL 8% FEE WOULD BE REDUCED TO 4%, WHICH WILL ALLOW MORE OF THE FUNDS FROM THE BOND TO GO TOWARDS THE PROJECTS THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED. SO I WANT TO THANK THE CITY MANAGER FOR HER OPENNESS TO THIS APPROACH. I WANT TO THANK THE BOND OFFICE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THEIR HARD WORK TO COMPLETE THE AGREEMENT. AND FINALLY, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE ARTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 70. AGENDA ITEM SEVEN WAS DELETED. AGENDA ITEM NINE WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM TEN WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 13 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 17 WAS CORRECTED AND PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 18 WAS CORRECTED AND PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 21 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 22 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 23 WAS PULLED WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 24 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 25 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 26 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 44 WAS DELETED. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT AGENDA ITEM 51 HAS BEEN PLACED BACK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM 52 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 58 WAS DELETED, AGENDA ITEM 68 WAS DELETED, AND AGENDA ITEM 70 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH SIX, EIGHT, 11, 12, 14 THROUGH 16, 19, 20, 27 THROUGH 43, 45 THROUGH [00:45:10] 51, 53 THROUGH 57, 59 THROUGH 67 AND 69. THESE ARE YOUR ITEMS, MR. MAYOR. APPROVED. A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. AND I SEE SOME DISCUSSION. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM 54 ON OUR AGENDA. SINCE 2009, THE DALLAS CENTER FOR PERFORMING ARTS FOUNDATION HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING COMPLETE THE VISION BEHIND THE CREATION OF THE DALLAS ARTS DISTRICT, WHICH IS A BELOVED CULTURAL TOURISM DRIVER AND IS RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE TOP ARTS AND CULTURAL DISTRICTS IN THE US. THE FOUNDATION OVERSEES FOUR CULTURAL FACILITIES FOR THE CITY. ANNETTE STRAUSS SQUARE, AT&T PERFORMING ARTS CENTER CAMPUS, THE WINSPEAR OPERA HOUSE, AND WYLY THEATER. OVER $13 MILLION OF THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM WAS PART OF THE CULTURAL ARTS PROPOSITION PROP E, WITH INVESTMENTS IN EACH OF THE FOUR FACILITIES. THE CITY WILL PROVIDE BOND FUNDING, PROCUREMENT, AND FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT. THE FOUNDATION WILL ACT AS THE CITY'S PROJECT MANAGER, AS MR. TRENCHARD HAS JUST EXPLAINED, FOR PLANNING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FOR THE BOND PROJECT. PROJECT IMPROVEMENTS AT EACH OF THE FOUR FACILITIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR. RIDLEY. CHAIR. WEST. THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE ARE REALLY ITEM FOUR. BRIEFLY, WHICH IS DPD RECEIVING TXDOT GRANTS FOR INCREASED TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR WILL USE STATE FUNDS TO TARGET SPEEDING, RED LIGHT VIOLATIONS, AND IMPAIRED DRIVING WHICH ALL LEAD TO DANGEROUS DRIVING HABITS. AS A REMINDER, FOR OUR CITY, CARS KILLED MORE PEOPLE IN DALLAS LAST YEAR THAN MURDERS, SO A POOR TRAFFIC BEHAVIOR AND UNSAFE ROADS IS A REAL ISSUE IN DALLAS. OUR UNSAFE STREETS ARE THE NUMBER ONE THING I HEAR ABOUT FROM MY RESIDENTS. SO I AM GRATEFUL TO OUR CITY MANAGER AND TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR SEEKING OUT THESE CRUCIAL STATE DOLLARS TO HELP MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER FOR EVERYONE. THANK YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES, MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST ITEM. AGENDA ITEM NINE. AGENDA ITEM NINE. AUTHORIZE PAYMENTS TO DALLAS COUNTY FOR PROCESSING AND MAINTAINING THE CITY PRISONERS AT THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE [9. 25-2597A Authorize payments to Dallas County for processing and maintaining the City prisoners at the Lew Sterrett Criminal Justice Center for the period October 1, 2025, through September 30, 2026 - Not to exceed $8,705,882.00 - Financing: General Fund (subject to appropriations)] CENTER FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, NOT TO EXCEED $8,705,882. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. CHAIR MENDELSOHN, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES. MOVE TO SEND THIS ITEM TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND BRING BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 22ND. AGENDA. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. PLEASE GO AHEAD. THIS IS OUR JAIL CONTRACT. WE HAVE. AS YOU KNOW FROM READING THIS ITEM, A 10% PLUS INCREASE. THERE'S NO INFORMATION ON HERE. TRADITIONALLY, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REVIEWS THIS CONTRACT. WE'VE HAD SOME MONTHS, SOME YEARS WHERE THE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE GONE FOR MONTHS, WHERE WE HAVE ASKED FOR CHANGES TO HOW THE NURSES DO INTAKE. WE'VE ASKED FOR ISSUES ABOUT MAKING SURE COMPUTERS ARE AVAILABLE FOR REPORTING. THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS HERE THAT ARE MISSING, AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THEM. NUMBER ONE, IT DOESN'T GIVE US THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF PRISONERS THAT WERE EXPECTED. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE COUNTY ADDRESS, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE BEEN DETAINED BEYOND THEIR CURRENT RELEASE DATES DUE TO THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE AND CASE MANAGEMENT BREAKDOWNS. THERE'S SYSTEM AND SOFTWARE INCOMPATIBILITIES AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, AND WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED HOW THOSE WILL IMPACT THIS CONTRACT. SO ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THOSE DAYS THAT PRISONERS STAY LONGER? OR WILL WE NOT BE PAYING FOR THAT? WILL THERE BE A PENALTY TO THEM? THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON JAILS FOUND DALLAS COUNTY ALSO DID NOT GIVE OUT PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION TO SOME OF THEIR RESIDENTS. SOME OF THE PRISONERS, AS WELL AS KEPT THEM TOO LONG IN HOLDING CELLS. SO AGAIN, THIS HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS CONTRACT. I'M STILL HEARING COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOW LONG IT'S TAKING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE JAIL. FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY'RE DROPPING OFF PRISONERS. BUT YET IN THE CONTRACT, IT SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT ALLOWING OUR PRISONERS TO GO BEFORE WHAT IS COMMONLY CALLED A [00:50:06] CHAIN, BUT A GROUP OF PRISONERS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN TOGETHER. AND INSTEAD, OUR OFFICERS ARE DELAYED WAITING FOR THAT INTAKE PROCESS TO HAPPEN. I'M HEARING PROBLEMS WITH IDENTIFYING PRISONERS. IF THEY DON'T HAVE AN ID WITH THE FINGERPRINTING, AND THAT SOMETIMES OUR OFFICERS ARE SITTING THERE FOR HOURS WAITING FOR THAT INFORMATION TO COME BACK, AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT SO THAT AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, THE COUNTY JUST TAKES OVER AND COMPLETES THAT INTAKE. IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE PRISONER, HEARING ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE NURSE EVALUATION TAKING EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME. AND ALTHOUGH WE DID ADD TWO YEARS AGO, I BELIEVE AN ABILITY FOR THE JAIL TO ACCEPT A DISCHARGE FROM HOSPITALS OUTSIDE OF PARKLAND, WE'RE STILL HEARING THAT QUITE A FEW OF THE PRISONERS ARE BEING SENT TO PARKLAND WHEN THEY'RE ON SITE. CLINIC MAY BE MORE SUITABLE. THE ADDITIONAL ITEM IS THAT THERE'S AN ITEM IN THE CONTRACT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE COUNTY TAKING OVER AT A HOSPITAL AFTER THE PRISONER HAS BEEN ASSIGNED A ROOM. AND IN FACT WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT OUR OFFICERS, TWO MAN CREWS ARE STAYING WITH PRISONERS AT THE HOSPITAL, SOMETIMES FOR DAYS. AND AGAIN, THIS IS TAKING OUR OFFICERS OFF THE ROAD. THIS CONTRACT HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WITH THESE KINDS OF QUESTIONS ASKED AND ANSWERED. AND SO THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING FOR THIS TO BE SENT TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF ARDIS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. WE HAVE STAFF HERE ALSO. WE MET WITH THE COUNTY AND RECEIVED THEIR INFORMATION PER THE CONTRACT AND LOOKED OVER THE INFORMATION. ALSO AGREED ON THE NUMBER OF PRISONERS. ALL THAT WAS WORKED OUT IN THE NUMBERS THAT THEY SENT THE CITY. WE HAVE STAFF HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, AND ALSO WORKING ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ASKED ABOUT, ABOUT HOW OUR OFFICERS ARE HAVING TO STAY WITH THE PRISONERS LONGER UNTIL THEY ARE ADMITTED INTO THE COUNTY JAIL. THERE ARE OUR PRISONERS, SO WE HAVE TO TO STAY WITH THEM FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME. WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO TO TO MAKE THAT MORE OF A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS OUR OFFICERS TO GET BACK IN THE FIELD FASTER. THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO INCREASE AND NOT ONLY BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT THE AMENDMENTS THAT'S IN THE CURRENT CONTRACT TO BETTER BE SUITED TO, TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT WITH THIS CONTRACT. I ALSO HAVE STAFF HERE. I HAVE STAFF COME OUT AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESS WE'VE GONE THROUGH WITH THE COUNTY TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND THEN TALK ABOUT HOW YOU GO ABOUT RECONCILING THE NUMBERS, IF YOU CAN. GOOD AFTERNOON. GREG NELSON, COURT DIRECTOR. HELLO, EVERYONE. ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. COUNCILWOMAN. BLACKMON. THANK YOU. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS CONTRACT STARTS NEXT WEEK, RIGHT? OCTOBER 1ST, ANYONE. YES, MA'AM. OKAY, SO WHAT HAPPENS ON OCTOBER 1ST? IF WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT, WE CAN STILL OPERATE WITH THE COUNTY. I'M SORRY. WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE WITH THE COUNTY. THEY MAY OR WILL. WILL, OKAY. WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO BRING PRISONERS TO DALLAS COUNTY. WE WILL JUST HAVE TO DO A RATIFICATION AND PAY INTEREST TO THEM. ONCE EVERYTHING IS FINALIZED WITH THIS BODY. SO CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND. PAY INTEREST. GO AHEAD. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS OSIRIS MARQUEZ, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE DALLAS MUNICIPAL COURT. SO WHAT DIRECTOR NELSON WAS REFERRING TO IS WHAT'S BEFORE YOU FOR CONSENT AGENDA IS THE AUTHORIZATION OF PAYMENT TO DALLAS COUNTY TO MAINTAIN AND HOLD PRISONERS THERE AT THE FACILITY. IF WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA TO AUTHORIZE THESE PAYMENTS, THEN WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT. AND DPD WILL STILL BE ABLE TO TRANSPORT PRISONERS TO THE JAIL. WE WOULD JUST HAVE A DELAY IN PAYMENT TO THEM. INSTEAD OF THE MONTHLY PAYMENTS. SO WOULD YOU HAVE TO COME FOR A RATIFICATION? SO DEPENDING ON HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR AN AGREEMENT TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND BRING IT FORWARD AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN HAS BROUGHT FORWARD. IT WOULD UNTIL WE GET AN AGREEMENT AND WE GET AUTHORIZATION BACK TO COUNCIL, BACK ON THE OCTOBER 22ND AGENDA, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE GET AUTHORIZATION TO START PAYMENT TO DALLAS COUNTY. [00:55:06] AND IS THERE A PENALTY FOR GOING INTO THIS WITHOUT A CONTRACT? I GUESS BECAUSE YOU SAID INTEREST. AND SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE GET DINGED AN UPCHARGE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT THAT IS IN ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT AMENDMENT AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE THAT IS LISTED ON THERE. SO IF WE DON'T DO A PAYMENT ON A MONTHLY PAYMENT TO COUNTY. YES. THERE IS ACCRUED INTEREST BEARING ON THAT PAYMENT. OKAY. SO EXPLAIN TO ME THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED. AND I GUESS CHIEF ARTIST KIND OF WENT THROUGH IT. CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL HAVE WORKED THROUGH THROUGH THIS LAST YEAR? BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS A CONVERSATION WE HAD LAST YEAR. Y'ALL WERE SUPPOSED TO GO AND WORK THROUGH IT. I'M ASSUMING YOU DID. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE COUNTY HERE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS TONS OF PEOPLE FROM THE COUNTY HERE, OR THERE WAS ONE PERSON SPECIFICALLY. SO I'M WANTING TO KNOW, DID WE WORK THROUGH THOSE AND HAVE THEY BEEN, I GUESS, HANDLED. SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO AS FAR AS SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED ON HERE, I CAN TELL YOU AS FAR AS THE ESTIMATED PRISONERS, WE GET THAT INFORMATION FROM DALLAS COUNTY ON MONTHLY, THEY SEND MONTHLY REPORTS TO US. AS FAR AS HOW MANY PRISONERS ARE FOR THAT MONTH AS FAR AS HOUSING AND CENTRAL INTAKE HAVE BEEN GONE. SO WE DO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AS FAR AS THE ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENTS OF THE NURSE AND EVALUATIONS. THE HOLDING OF FOR PRISONERS PAST THE RELEASE TIME. THAT'S MORE QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO INVITE THE DALLAS COUNTY AND THEIR STAFF TO COME HERE AND ADDRESS THOSE THOSE QUESTIONS THAT ARE THERE FOR THE CONTRACT. WE PRETTY MUCH ARE OVERSEEING THE ESTIMATE AND THE COST BASED ON ACTUAL USAGE OF THE CITY. OKAY. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM AND BECAUSE THEY'RE REACHING CAPACITY, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THEY COULD SAY WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH YOU SO YOU DON'T GET ACCESS? YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE. WE WE WE ASSESS WHERE WE WORK WITH THE PEOPLE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH. AND IF WE HAVE SPACE AT THE END, THEN WE WOULD ALLOW YOUR PRISONERS TO COME IN. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT. IT'S A IT'S A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY, AND IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR YEARS. OKAY. IT'S JUST AN AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. SO THOSE ARE THE TERMS. AMENDMENT FIVE KIND OF JUST DETAILS THE TERMS AND CRITERIA OF THE CONTRACT. WHAT WE'LL HAVE IS WE WON'T HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO MAKE A PAYMENT. PAYMENT. YES. SO THAT'S THE ONLY RIGHT NOW THAT'S HERE. AND BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY, THAT'S MY CONCERN IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORIZATION. IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THEY COULD SAY YOU SINCE WE DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO PAY, THEN YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE. NO. SO ALL HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED WILL HAVE TO STAY. YES. EVERYTHING WILL STAY WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE. SO WE ARE STILL ALLOWED TO TAKE EVEN IF THE OVERCROWDING OR ANY OF THAT GOING ON, WE'RE STILL TAKE ACCORDING TO THE AMENDMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE, WE STILL TAKE PRECEDENCE FIRST, AS FAR AS PRIORITY OF ALLOWING DPD TO BRING THOSE PRISONERS TO LOU STARRETT. OKAY. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WILL ADDRESS AS FAR AS THEIR OVERCROWDING AND HOW THEY MANAGE THE PRISONERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIR MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. WELL, IT'S CLEAR SOME PEOPLE HAVE NOT READ THIS CONTRACT. THIS IS FROM 1978, ACTUALLY. AND THE CITY OWNS PART OF THIS. WE PASSED A ALMOST $10 MILLION BOND. AND IN FACT, IF THE COUNTY SELLS THIS PROPERTY, THEN WE GET A PORTION OF THAT, BOTH THE BUILDING AND THE LAND. CORRECT? YES. YES, MA'AM. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO THE THE STATED PURPOSE FOR THIS AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE SAYS THE PURPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE IS TO INCORPORATE PERFORMANCE MEASURES. WHAT ARE THOSE PERFORMANCE MEASURES? SO I THINK THERE WAS OTHER CRITERIA THERE THAT WAS OUTLINED FOR THE CONTRACT TO TAKE PLACE WITH THIS NEW AMENDMENT THAT WAS DONE AND APPROVED IN APRIL. I THINK THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSION AND TRANSITION OF STAFFING ON BOTH ENDS IN DALLAS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF DALLAS. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY MEETINGS TOGETHER THAT WERE LIKE IT SAYS ON THE CONTRACT THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING. QUARTERLY MEETINGS AND MEETINGS WITH BOTH BODIES TO GO AHEAD AND ESTABLISH PERFORMANCE MEASURES. AND AND ALSO DEFINED THE ANY CONCERNS OR ISSUES ON EITHER SIDE. SO THE PURPOSE OF AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE WAS TO ESTABLISH PERFORMANCE MEASURES. BUT WHEN YOU READ THE CONTRACT THERE ARE NO PERFORMANCE MEASURES. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S PART OF MY PROBLEM. GARLAND HAS A DROP OFF IN AND OUT SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THEIR POLICE OFFICERS TO GET IN AND OUT VERY, VERY QUICKLY, FASTER THAN US. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THEY HAD A BOND TO HELP BUILD THIS JAIL FACILITY. WHY DON'T WE HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION? MADAM CHAIR, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? AM I USING TIME? THE QUESTION IS THAT GARLAND HAS A DROP AND GO SYSTEM. [01:00:04] THEY'RE. THEY'RE POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOT STAYING WITH PRISONERS LIKE OURS ARE. WHY ARE WE NOT GETTING ANY ADVANTAGE WHEN WE ARE ACTUALLY THE CITY THAT PARTICIPATED IN BUILDING THIS? AND AS YOU READ ALL THROUGH THIS CONTRACT, THERE'S CONSIDERATION FOR THE FACT THAT WE ARE A PARTIAL OWNER. WHY DOES GARLAND HAVE THIS FAVORED STATUS? AND WE DO NOT. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN. WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK INTO THAT AND FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY THAT IS. WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR ATTORNEYS TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS THAT GARLAND IS UTILIZING. AND TO SEE HOW IT WORKS HERE IN OUR CITY. SO THERE THERE IS NO INDICATION ON HERE ABOUT WHAT ACTUAL PERFORMANCE IS. IT DOES SAY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE PERFORMANCE REPORTS, INCLUDING HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DO THINGS LIKE CHECK IN. ARE WE GETTING THOSE REPORTS? THOSE ARE, I BELIEVE, OUR DPD SECTION OF DETENTION SERVICES THAT IS AT THE ARE KEEPING THOSE INFORMATION. AND SO SO HOW LONG DO WE HAVE STAFF AT LOU STARRETT ON THE DPD AND THAT DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION. DO WE HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DO A CHECK IN POINT OF ORDER? MAYOR. WHILE I'M ENJOYING THIS THIS CONVERSATION, I THINK IT I THINK WE'RE GETTING PAST THE WAY THE ITEM WHICH WAS NOTICED, WHICH IS LITERALLY JUST THE PAYMENT FOR THIS CONTRACT. SO I THINK IT'S A VERY WORTHY DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE'VE GONE WAY BEYOND WHAT'S GERMANE HERE. MADAM CHAIR, YOU CAN BRING IT BACK IN A LITTLE BIT. I'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY APPROVING THIS CONTRACT AND PAYMENT, AND WE CLEARLY HAVE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED. AND WITHOUT SENDING IT TO COMMITTEE. THERE SEEMS TO BE NO FORMAL FORUM TO BE ABLE TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU THIS. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT IT WAS DELAYED? THIS WAS BACK IN 2022 WHEN THERE WAS NEGOTIATIONS TO COME ABOUT. AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE CAME ABOUT AND WAS APPROVED. IN WHAT MONTH? THE AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED IN APRIL OF 2022. SO THAT'S WHEN WE ACTUALLY GOT AUTHORIZATION TO THEN BACK PAY THEM FOR THE MONTHS OF OCTOBER THROUGH APRIL, OCTOBER THROUGH APRIL. AND I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS BEING ASKED ABOUT WHAT THE PENALTY IS. AND I BELIEVE IT'S THE INTEREST RATE OF THEIR BANK ACCOUNT. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO THIS DID HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE PAST. IT SHOULD HAVE IT AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHIEF ARTIS. YES. THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCILWOMAN, FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. UNLIKE LAST TIME, WE'VE HAD THIS TIME TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON BETTER BEING PREPARED FOR THE NUMBERS AND UNDERSTANDING THE NUMBERS. WE ASK THAT THIS BE APPROVED. BECAUSE WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH THOSE, WE STILL HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WITH THE COUNTY TO BE BETTER PREPARED AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE BETTER. AND, LIKE YOU SAID, IN THE WAY WE BRING IN OUR PRISONERS, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH THE INTAKE PROCESS. WE'RE WORKING WITH NOT ONLY THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO DPD TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES IN THE DEPARTMENT WITH THESE RECENT PROMOTIONS FROM CHIEF COMO. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS A WAY TO KICK START THIS PROCESS, TO NOT ONLY BE BETTER PREPARED AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS CONTRACT, BUT ALSO LOOK FOR WAYS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. CHAIR. RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHAT IS THE ANTICIPATED MONTHLY PAYMENT TO THE JAIL BY THE CITY? YEAH. ONCE WE APPROVE THE ANNUAL PAYMENT OF THE 8.7, WE. WHAT WE DO IS WE DIVIDE THAT BY THE 12 MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR. AND SO WE DO A WIRE PAYMENT TO THEM ON A MONTHLY BASIS. OKAY. SO THAT'S ABOUT WHAT, 600,000 A MONTH, SIX SOMETHING. AND WHAT IS THE INTEREST RATE UNDER THIS AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. I WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT FOR YOU. MR. REALLY, WE DON'T HAVE THE INTEREST RATE NUMBERS, BUT THE PAYMENT IS GOING TO BE 725,000 A MONTH. [01:05:02] OKAY. AND SO THE INTEREST RATE IS SET BY THE INTEREST THAT THE COUNTY PAYS ON THEIR BANK ACCOUNT. YES, SIR. I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO I TAKE IT YOU DON'T HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THE INTEREST WOULD BE IF WE DEFER THIS MATTER FOR A MONTH TO GO TO COMMITTEE? NO, SIR, I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT FOR JUST A MONTH'S INTEREST, THIS IS A PRETTY MINIMAL AMOUNT. PARTICULARLY IF IT ALLOWS US TO HAVE ENHANCED PRIORITY FOR THE BOOKING OF PRISONERS SO THAT WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT SAVES DPD'S TIME OFF THE FIELD, AND THAT WILL PAY OFF GREAT DIVIDENDS. IF WE CAN GET A PROGRAM LIKE GARLAND HAS THAT EXPEDITES THAT TURNAROUND. AROUND. I THINK THERE ARE ENOUGH UNANSWERED QUESTIONS FROM STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED AT THE HORSESHOE THAT THIS DOES BEHOOVE US TO DEFER THIS FOR AT LEAST A MONTH, SO THAT IT CAN BE HEARD BY THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AND ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STAFF TO COME FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT WE ANTICIPATE UNDER THIS CONTRACT. I THINK THERE WILL ULTIMATELY BE COST SAVINGS AND EFFICIENCY SAVINGS IF WE DO THAT, AND THUS I SUPPORT THIS MOTION. CHAIR MIDDLETON, FOR ONE MINUTE. WELL THANK YOU. THIS IS AN $8.7 MILLION CONTRACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, $8.7 MILLION. OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY IS FIRST WE'RE SUPPOSED TO READ THE CONTRACT. SECOND, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER THE PAST PERFORMANCE. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CONFIRM THE METRICS ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISMS AND CONSIDER WHAT THOSE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ARE. WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO SIT HERE AND RUBBER STAMP WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS. AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE. THERE'S CLEARLY BEEN QUESTIONS THAT STAFF DOESN'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO. I DON'T MEAN TO EMBARRASS YOU, BUT THIS NEEDS TO COME TO COMMITTEE. AND I'M A LITTLE BIT PERPLEXED WHY IT WOULD NOT. A CONTRACT OF $8.7 MILLION, AND MOST OF THE ITEMS I'VE PULLED TODAY CENTER AROUND THE SAME IDEA OF THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR JOB TO REVIEW THE CONTRACTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALIGN WITH WHAT THE CITY GOALS ARE. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MEAN, I'M PERPLEXED TOO, BECAUSE THESE SEEM TO ALIGN WITH OUR FISCAL YEAR AND WE ALL KNOW WHEN THAT BEGINS. AND SO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE COULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR. WE KNOW THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL HAS ISSUES. I MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND I EXPRESSED THOSE CONCERNS, AND SHE WAS ABLE TO SHARE WITH ME THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED AND THE MOVEMENT ON SOME OF THESE ASPECTS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. I MEAN, I AM I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THEY NEED TO PERFORM BETTER. I MEAN, THAT IS OUR EXPECTATION. BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, AROUND THE NURSING, I KNOW THAT IS AN ISSUE. I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON A PARTNERSHIP TO GET A PHYSICIAN ON SITE SO THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS AREN'T SERVING AS DE FACTO RIDESHARES AND BURNING TIME, HAVING TO CART PEOPLE TO PARKLAND WHO WHO NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR. BUT I'M JUST I'M WONDERING ABOUT IS THIS CHIEF ARTIST. IS THIS A HELPFUL NEGOTIATING TOOL? I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A DELAY ACCOMPLISHES. I MEAN, IT MAY IT MAY HELP US. IT MAY HELP US. ALTHOUGH I FEEL LIKE THE NEGOTIATING TABLE IS STILL OPEN. SO I'M JUST I'M TRYING TO WORK. WORK THROUGH WHAT? THIS HOW THIS WILL BENEFIT US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. WE'RE WE'VE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE COUNTY NOW FOR AT LEAST THE LAST SIX MONTHS WORKING THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES SURROUNDING SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU'VE JUST BROUGHT FORTH. THE, THE INCREASED EFFORTS OF BOTH PARTIES HAS ALLOWED US TO FINALLY KIND OF AGREE ON A LOT OF THE TERMS THAT WERE OUT OF AGREEMENT PREVIOUSLY. YES. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK FOR THEM. GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS HOW WE CALCULATE OUR DAILY RATE FOR OUR PRISONERS OTHER THINGS SUCH AS HOW WE LOOK AT WHAT IS THE. IT'S CALLED THE HOTEL RATE. UNFORTUNATELY, FOR HOW LONG, WHEN OUR PRISONERS STAY IN THE COUNTY SYSTEM ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE HAD TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH, AND WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THOSE WE'RE LOOKING AT BETTER WAYS TO THE INTAKE PROCESS. HOW DOES THAT WORK? AND HOW DOES THAT WORK FOR OUR OFFICERS. THEY'RE STILL TECHNOLOGY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH OVER THERE. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES ON THAT FRONT WITH THIS NEW TEAM, SOME NEW PERSONNEL THAT HAVE TAKEN THE REINS OVER THERE. [01:10:02] AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE EFFICIENCIES TO BE ABLE TO PUSH FORWARD THE NEXT POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THIS, THIS CONTRACT AS WE GO FORTH WITH THE COUNTY. WELL, SO WHAT'S SO HARD ABOUT GETTING THESE THINGS DONE? I MEAN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERFORMANCE MEASURES, I MEAN, IF THIS CONTRACT'S BEEN AROUND THAT LONG AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THEM, I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY WE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAVE AN EXISTING COMMITTEE WHY WE CAN'T GET THERE. BUT I MEAN, WHAT IS THE HURDLE HERE? THE HURDLE IS, IS GETTING EVERYBODY TOGETHER. THE COUNTY. RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT. AND AND THE, THE GETTING THE COUNTY TOGETHER IS THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED WITH HOW THEY, THEY SAW THAT THIS CONTRACT WAS PROCESSED AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS A LOT OF THE PLAYERS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THAT LAST AMENDMENT. AND SO WE'VE HAD TO WORK WITH OUR ATTORNEYS AND THEIR ATTORNEYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BOTH ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN WE SAY CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT THE INTAKE OF OUR PRISONERS TO SAY, THIS IS, THIS IS A DALLAS COUNTY PRISONER OR IS THIS A CITY PRISONER? AND SO ALL OF THOSE HAVE COME INTO PLAY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS CONTRACT AND THAT, AND THAT CAN AFFECT WHAT WE PAY AS A CITY. IF THERE ARE COUNTY PRISONER, THAT'S NOT OUR PRISONER, THAT'S THEIR PRISONER. IF IT'S A CITY PRISONER, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE PRISONERS. AND SO ALL OF THOSE ARE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD TO SETTLE WITH THEM TO BE BETTER IN A POSITION AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS CONTRACT, TO SAY THIS IS WHAT THIS CONTRACT MEANS AND THIS IS WHAT WE WILL PAY AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE YOU HAVE TO PAY ON YOUR SIDE. SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT COOPERATING, IT'S JUST THAT WE ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY ARRIVING AT DEFINITIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING. YES. IS THIS GOING TO BE SOLVED IN A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS? I MEAN, I DON'T LIKE GOING INTO SOMETHING AND HAVING IT BE RUDDERLESS AND NOT HAVE A TIME BOUND DATE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO COME BACK BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE KNOW THEY'VE GOT ISSUES, BUT REMOVING RESOURCES TO HELP WORK THOSE ISSUES OUT. I MEAN, THIS IS IT'S A TOUGH SITUATION. I MEAN, I WANT TO SEE RESULTS. I WANT TO SEE CHANGE ON THIS, BUT I'M ALSO NOT WANTING TO UNDER RESOURCE THEM TO TAKE CARE OF THIS CRITICAL ISSUE. AND THESE NUMBERS ARE FROM LAST YEAR. THESE NUMBERS WILL NOT CHANGE. THESE NUMBERS ARE THE NUMBERS THAT AS WE HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THE REPORTS THAT THEY'VE SENT US AND AGREED ON THE NUMBERS, THIS IS WHAT OUR PORTION OF THAT CONTRACT FOR THE USAGE OF THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL IS. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S LESS AROUND THOSE HARD NUMBERS OF NUMBERS OF INMATES AND THAT SORT OF THING AND HOW WE COMPENSATE. BUT IT'S MORE ABOUT OPERATIONS AND PROCESS AND EFFICIENCY. AND I KNOW CHIEF CUOMO HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT PROCESSES OVER THERE AND THERE'S SOME THINGS I DON'T LIKE AND THAT I WANT TO WORK ON FIXING. I JUST I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THIS SAYING IT'LL BE RESOLVED IN A MONTH OR TWO. AND THESE SOUND LIKE THEY'RE BIGGER, BUT THEY ALSO NEED TO GET DONE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR. BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THIS WOULD ACCOMPLISH WHAT HAS BEEN PUT FORTH FOR IT TO ACCOMPLISH. AND I DON'T WANT THINGS TO CLOUD ANY PROGRESS WE CAN MAKE, RIGHT? NO, THIS THIS IS THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OUT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH THE COUNTY. WE'VE IF, IF, IF YOU WERE AT THE FRIDAY MEMO, WE ALSO PUT IT IN THE MEMO THAT WE'RE HAVING ONGOING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY OVER THESE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WELL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS ALL DAY LONG. AND SO WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME DEADLINES ON THIS. AND THAT'S A GREAT ROLE FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, I THINK, TO OUTLINE A TIMELINE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO THAT THIS GETS DEALT WITH. I'M JUST MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S JUST NOT THESE SOUND COMPLEX AND AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO GET WORKED OUT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. AND THEN NO IT DIDN'T GET WORKED OUT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KICK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE. SO IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO REMOVE THIS RESOURCE FOR A SITUATION THAT NEEDS NEEDS RESOURCES, BUT IT ALSO NEEDS COOPERATION AND PARTNERSHIP. AND WE HAVE A MORE ACCELERATED VIEW OF WHAT THAT NEEDS TO BE. WE'VE GOT TO COME TO TERMS WITH THIS. YES. COUNCILMAN WILLIS, I AGREE WITH YOU. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WON'T HAPPEN OVER A MONTH. WE'VE TALKED TO THE COUNTY FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, AND WE'RE GOING TO ENGAGE THEM THROUGH NEXT YEAR THIS TIME. AND WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CONTRACT TO ADDRESS SOME OF COUNCILMAN MENDELSOHN NONSENSE. NEEDS AND WANTS. MAYOR RECORD. VOTE, PLEASE. THESE ARE JUST NOT WORDS THAT ARE STRONG ENOUGH, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD BE LESS THAN A YEAR. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST FOR A RECORDED VOTE, MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. [01:15:07] OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. THANK YOU. CAN I JUST GET SOME? I FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN TO A GOOD RESOLVE ON THIS DISCUSSION. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH BY PUTTING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE AND HOW LONG WE WOULD NEED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. CAN YOU EXPLAIN? I GUESS, WHAT WOULD CHANGE AS FAR AS NUMBERS, THIS IS A PAYMENT FOR A CONTRACT. AND IF WE WANTED TO WORK OUT DETAILS MOVING FORWARD AS IT'S BEEN ARTICULATED, I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT CAN'T BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY. AND I THINK THAT IT SPEAKS TO TO THE FACT THAT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN PLACE IN COMMITTEE WHEN COMMITTEES WERE STANDING LEADING UP TO THIS POINT, BUT IT WASN'T. AND WITH THAT SAID, WHY WE WOULD NOT BE APPROVING IT WITH WHERE IT IS BAKED AND WHAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE TO HAVE HAPPEN AT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN. THE NUMBERS ARE THE NUMBERS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE PER THE CONTRACT GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS, AGREEING WITH THE NUMBERS, WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ON THE CONTRACT. THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE 8.7. WHAT WE HAVE VOWED TO DO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS WHILE THAT IS GOING, ALSO LOOK AT WAYS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT, MORE EFFECTIVE WITH HOW WE'RE HANDLING OUR POLICE FORCE WHEN THEY GO INTO THE JAIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. TAMMY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THIS ITEM IS? THIS IS A RESOLUTION. SIMPLY PAYING, MAKING A PAYMENT TO DALLAS COUNTY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE. THERE'S NO CONTRACT ATTACHED TO THAT, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR US TO DELIBERATE BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT THIS AGENDA ITEM ACTUALLY IS IN FRONT OF US. IS THAT ACCURATE? WELL, IT'S TO COMMIT THE ITEM ITSELF BACK TO TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THEN HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK BY OCTOBER 22ND. I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE DATE THAT. SO IT'S JUST A COMMITTING IT. SURE. I'M JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SENSE OF THE FACT THAT WE'D BE COMMITTING IT TO DISCUSS A PAYMENT. THAT'S NOT WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED. THE AGENDA ITEM IN FRONT OF US IS TO APPROVE A PAYMENT. THE MOTION MAKER HAS ARTICULATED A TOTALLY SEPARATE DESIRE ON WHAT TO DO AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. AND SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY WE WOULD NEED TO DELAY THIS IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT IT IS THAT MISS MENDELSOHN HAS SAID SHE WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH. THE AGENDA ITEM IN FRONT OF US IS TO ISSUE A PAYMENT. AND I HAVEN'T HEARD YET THAT THAT THAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE OR DENY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TAKEN UP IN THE COMMITTEE. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO APPROVE THIS PAYMENT NOW AND STILL WORK TOWARDS. YES, SIR. YES. COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA THIS THIS IS OUR BILL. SO THIS IS 8.7 IS WHAT WE OWE TO DALLAS COUNTY. THE NUMBER WILL NOT CHANGE. THE CONTRACT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THIS IS WHAT WE OWE TO THE COUNTY. I JUST JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS VERY CLEAR, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE KIND OF GOT GOT OFF ON SOME TANGENTS WITH THIS DISCUSSION. WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US IS ASKING US TO MAKE THIS PAYMENT. THE CONTRACT IS WHAT IT IS. IF WE WANT TO WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE CONTRACT, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE APPROPRIATE VESSEL FOR THAT, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US AND ASKED TO BE APPROVED. SO FOR THAT, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING RECOMMITTING TO THE COMMITTEE. I WILL SUPPORT US, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FURTHER INTO THIS AND DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO CONFLATE THE TWO BECAUSE WE CAN STILL DO BOTH. WHICH IS WHY I WILL NOT SUPPORT A DELAY OR A DEFERRAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SIR. CHAIR STEWART. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. MAY I ASK THE CHAIR A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS? SHE'S WILLING TO ANSWER. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS EFFICIENCIES AND OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE. I AGREE. EXCUSE ME THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS A GOOD FORUM FOR HAVING THAT DISCUSSION. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THIS DELAY WOULD. SOMEHOW BE BENEFICIAL TO THIS CONVERSATION, SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE GOALS THAT I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE THE ITEM THAT EVEN TALKS ABOUT PERFORMANCE MEASURES WAS BECAUSE IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, [01:20:01] WE PUSHED FOR THAT. NOW, ALL THESE YEARS LATER, THEY STILL HAVE NOT DELINEATED THEM. I THINK THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH MEETING. THERE'S OTHER ITEMS IN THE CONTRACT THAT ARE NOT HAPPENING IN TERMS OF REPORTING. AND THE RESOLUTION ITSELF DOES TALK ABOUT PROCESSING THE PAYMENT, BUT IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT SERVICES RENDERED. AND THAT'S THE ISSUE IS THAT THE SERVICES BEING RENDERED ARE NOT THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED, AND THEY'RE NOT BEING DONE IN ACCORDANCE TO THE STANDARDS THAT I THINK THAT WE DESERVE AND SOME THAT ARE OUTLINED ALREADY IN THE ACTUAL CONTRACT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M POINTING TO THE CONTRACT. AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PROBLEM. THIS IS $8.7 MILLION. IT'S A 10% INCREASE. THERE IS A FORMULA FOR WHAT WE PAY. AND THEN IN THE END IT'S TRUED UP. SO IF YOU KNOW, WE END UP HAVING A LOT MORE PRISONERS THAN, YOU KNOW, WE END UP PAYING MORE AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, BUT THAT'S ALSO NOT IN THE RESOLUTION. IT'S IN THE CONTRACT. SO TO SAY THAT WE'RE ONLY APPROVING A RESOLUTION IS TO NEGATE THE FACT THAT THERE'S A CONTRACT BEHIND IT. THAT IS HOW THEY CAME UP WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT. IT'S ALSO THE SERVICE LEVELS. AND THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED, ALTHOUGH THE RESOLUTION DOES TALK ABOUT THE SERVICES THEMSELVES. SO I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. I DO SEE THE CONNECTION THEN. I MEAN, THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES ARE PART OF THE CONTRACT. THE PAYMENT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL INTERTWINED, AND I THINK THIS DISCUSSION DOES NEED TO GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY, SO I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION. THANK YOU, CHAIR JOHNSON. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM I WAS LISTENING TO CHAIR MIDDLETON. YOU SAID SOMETHING. WHETHER IT GOES TO THE COMMITTEE OR NOT, NOT THE. THE NUMBER STILL STAYS THE SAME. CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO JUST TO GIVE SOME DETAIL OR CLARIFICATION. SO WHAT WHAT THEY MEAN BY THE NUMBER STAYS THE SAME IS PRETTY MUCH IS THE DALLAS COUNTY'S ADOPTED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 IS WHAT'S CONSIDERED, AS WELL AS ACTUAL CITY USAGE FOR THE PERIOD OF OF OCTOBER 2023 THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF 2024. IT'S THE ACTUAL CITY USAGE, SO WE'RE PAYING BASED ON THE CITY'S USAGE FOR THAT PERIOD OF ACTUALS. OKAY. AND, CHAIR MIDDLETON, YOUR CONCERN IS THE TRANSPARENCY OF IT BECAUSE IF IT STAYS THE SAME BASED ON WHAT THE CITY IS SAYING. SO WHAT IS YOUR CONCERN? TO BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE? SO I BELIEVE SHE'S CORRECT BECAUSE IN THERE IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS WE'RE PAYING A CERTAIN RATE FOR BOOK IN, WE'RE PAYING A CERTAIN RATE FOR WHAT THEY'RE CALLING HOTELING AND, AND ALL OF THAT. SO THAT WON'T CHANGE IN OUR PROJECTED NUMBER, ALTHOUGH ALSO NOT INCLUDED. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE PROJECTED NUMBER IS. BUT MY CONCERN IS IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE SERVICES RENDERED AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION. AND WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THOSE SERVICE DEFICIENCIES OR NEEDS. SO YOU JUST WANT TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. I DO, BUT THEN I ALSO WANT TO SPECIFICALLY SAY THIS. THE COMMITTEE CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT. SO ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT, OH, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE CONTRACT. WE DON'T DO THAT. THAT'S STAFF. BUT STAFF SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT TO THE COMMITTEE SO WE CAN SAY, WOW, WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER THING ARE BEING HANDLED. DID YOU ADDRESS THOSE? DID THAT CONVERSATION HAPPEN? COULD WE ALSO INCORPORATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THEY CAN THEN GO BACK AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION? IT'S NOT OURS TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT. AND THEY'RE PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF DOING THAT. AND THEY HAVE. BUT WE MISSED THE STEP OF THE COMMITTEE LOOKING THIS OVER AND $8.7 MILLION. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE MISSING THAT STEP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN CADENA I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THIS RESOLUTION GOES UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE CONTRACT? WHAT'S THE DATE THAT THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING TO? AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH UNTIL WE CREATE ANOTHER NEGOTIATION. AND THERE'S MODIFICATIONS TO THE ORIGINAL MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. CHAIR, FOR THREE MINUTES. SO I'D LIKE CLARIFICATION ON THE STATUS OF AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. WAS THAT ALREADY APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL? THAT IS CORRECT. IT CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS ON APRIL OF 2022. OH, SO THIS THING IS THREE AND A HALF YEARS OLD. AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. THAT IS CORRECT. WELL, HAVE THERE BEEN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT A FURTHER AMENDMENT TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE PERFORMANCE METRICS AND SERVICE LEVELS? THERE HAS. AND LIKE CHIEF ARTIST HAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH COUNTY FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO AND WORKING WITH COMING UP WITH THIS COST [01:25:07] ESTIMATE AND OTHER CONCERNS THAT BOTH SIDES HAVE. WELL, WILL THOSE ISSUES BE ADDRESSED IN A SIXTH AMENDMENT? IS THAT THE PLAN? NO, WE'RE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE. TALKING THROUGH SOME OF THE EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID PERFORMANCE MEASURES. AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WITH THE CONTRACT WITH THEM, BUT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE FELT LIKE COULD BE MORE BEEFED UP THAT WOULD HELP US HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE JAIL WHEN WE BRING OUR PRISONERS IN. ALSO TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE WAYS THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT ARE NOT WORKING OVER THERE IN THE JAIL. SO WE'RE TALKING WITH THEM ON THOSE ISSUES. WELL, DON'T MANY OF THESE ISSUES THAT YOU'VE ADDRESSED NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN A FORMAL AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE AMENDMENT. OKAY. AND SO THAT'S THE PLAN TO ULTIMATELY INCORPORATE THESE INTO A FORMAL AMENDMENT. YES. THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE WERE SAYING IT'LL BE LONGER THAN A MONTH JUST TO TO GET THAT AMENDMENT GOING AND GET THROUGH ALL THE PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO WITH THEM. BUT THE NUMBERS WILL NOT CHANGE. HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE TO NEGOTIATE THOSE ADDITIONAL ISSUES WITH THE COUNTY? I, I WOULD TOWARDS AN AMENDMENT. I'M HOPEFUL IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS WE CAN HAVE THIS DONE. WORKING THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. NOT ONLY JUST THAT. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WELL, IT STILL SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO GET THE INPUT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE ON POLICIES THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS. YES, SIR. SO I WILL STILL VOTE FOR THIS MOTION, BUT WE BELIEVE WE COULD DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. ALSO, WHILE WE'RE PAYING THAT THE THE PAYMENT ALSO BE WORKING ON THE AMENDMENT AT THE SAME TIME. WELL, I UNDERSTAND, BUT HOLDING UP THE PAYMENT, AT LEAST FOR A SHORT TIME, GIVES US LEVERAGE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS. THANK YOU. SO, YEAH, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S TALKING ABOUT HAVING A COMMITTEE DO A CONTRACT, BUT THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT MEASURES THAT NEED TO IMPROVE. AND I THINK THAT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT THE COMMITTEE SHOULD LOOK AT. AND I KNOW CHIEF COMO IS ALREADY LOOKING AT SOME THINGS, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE CHAIR MENDELSOHN HAS GOT A LIST. AND THOSE ARE THE SORTS OF ITEMS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED AND WORKED ON. BUT, CHIEF ARTIS, IS THERE ANYTHING TO PREVENT THE COUNTY FROM ENACTING A NEW, MORE EFFICIENT MEASURE THAT WE AGREE UPON BEFORE A CONTRACT GOES INTO EFFECT? OR WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WE LIKE THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT AND WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO ENACT IT. WE'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH THEM ABOUT A NUMBER OF ISSUES. OF COURSE THEY'RE HAVING THEIR OWN ISSUES RIGHT NOW WITH THEIR THEM BEING SO CROWDED RIGHT NOW. AND, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW DO WE AT BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE WAY THAT WE DO ONE THING ABOUT OUR CONTRACT, THEY CANNOT TURN US DOWN AS A CITY AS WE BRING PRISONERS IN WHERE THEY CAN. OTHER CITIES. AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH ISSUES LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY IS TAKEN CARE OF. BUT IF WE AGREE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE A PHYSICIAN ON SITE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH OF NEXT YEAR TO DO THAT. THEY COULD THEY COULD GO ON AND ENACT IT. IT'S NOT THERE'S COST INVOLVED AND ALL THAT, THAT PIECE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WITH THEM ON ISSUES LIKE THAT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL TAKE A RECORD VOTE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO, IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. JOHNSON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. CADENA. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLAIR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. WILLIS. NO. MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO. YES. MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT WITH VOTE TAKEN. WITH EIGHT VOTING IN FAVOR, FOUR OPPOSED TO ABSENT AND ONE ABSENT VOTE TAKEN. THE AMENDMENT PASSES, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR NEXT CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM TEN. CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM TEN. [10. 25-2684A Authorize a two-year Interlocal Agreement with Dallas County as its Health Authority in providing essential public health services for the City of Dallas for the period October 1, 2025 through September 30, 2027 - Not to exceed $20,000.00 - Financing: General Fund] [01:30:08] AUTHORIZE A TWO YEAR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY AS ITS HEALTH AUTHORITY IN PROVIDING ESSENTIAL PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027, NOT TO EXCEED $20,000. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. CHAIR MENDELSOHN. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES. MOVE TO SEND THIS ITEM TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE AND BRING BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 22ND. AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND DISCUSSION. CHAIR MIDDLETON. YES. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, WHAT ARE THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CONTRACT? THIS IS DESIGNATING OUR HEALTH AUTHORITY TO THE COUNTY. THERE ARE NONE. I RESPECTFULLY MOVE THAT. WE DEFER THIS UNTIL OBJECTIVE PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND A CLEAR COMMUNICATION FRAMEWORK ARE IN PLACE. TODAY'S CONTRACT DOESN'T SPECIFY HOW THE COUNTY WILL MEET URGENT CITY PRIORITIES, INCLUDING ADEQUATE INPATIENT ADDICTION RECOVERY BEDS AND TIMELY PLACEMENT, SUFFICIENT INPATIENT MENTAL HEALTH CAPACITY AND STABILIZATION PROTOCOLS, INCLUDING LONGER CLINICAL HOLDS WHEN INDIVIDUALS ARE AT A CREDIBLE RISK OF SELF HARM TO ENSURE THEY ARE TRULY STABILIZED BEFORE RELEASE WITHOUT DEFINED SERVICE LEVELS AND REPORTING. THE CITY CANNOT VERIFY THAT THESE NEEDS WILL BE MET OR HAVE IMPROVED YEAR OVER YEAR. WHAT'S MISSING AND SHOULD BE ADDED BEFORE APPROVAL INCLUDE THE SERVICE LEVELS AND ACCESS, WITH A COMMITMENT TO MAINTAIN A MINIMUM BED AVAILABILITY AND SURGE CAPACITY, TIME TO PLACEMENT TARGETS AND 24 OVER SEVEN INTAKE STABILIZATION, STABILIZATION AND CONTINUITY OF CARE. CLINICAL CRITERIA AND PROTOCOLS FOR EXTENDED OBSERVATION HOLDS WHEN RISK IS PRESENT. WARM HANDOFFS TO STEP DOWN. CARE POST-DISCHARGE FOLLOW UP TIMELINES. TOO OFTEN WE'RE FINDING THAT PEOPLE ARE DISCHARGED TO THE STREETS JUST HOURS AFTER BEING BROUGHT IN FROM DPD FOR A CRISIS EVALUATION. THREE OUTCOMES, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND DATA METRICS SUCH AS READMISSION WITHIN 30 AND 90 DAYS. LENGTH OF STAY FOR MENTAL HEALTH CRISES, REPEAT CRISIS ENCOUNTERS, ADDICTION TREATMENT COMPLETION, DIVERSION FROM JAIL, E.R. LENGTH OF WAIT FROM E.R. TO DISCHARGE WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY A PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER. QUARTERLY DASHBOARDS OR REPORTS TO COUNSEL WITH HIPAA COMPLIANT DATA SHARING THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO MONITOR THE PERFORMANCE AND TARGET RESOURCES. BY HAVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE LOOK AT THIS AND HOPEFULLY RECOMMEND PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND A COMMUNICATING FRAMEWORK. WE CAN IMPROVE THIS CONTRACT. THE CONTRACT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO DISCUSSION. I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT IT'S EVER BEEN LOOKED AT AS A SINGLE COMMITTEE. WE OCCASIONALLY BRING THIS TOPIC UP. THERE'S OTHER ENTITIES THAT COULD ACTUALLY FUNCTION AS OUR HEALTH AUTHORITY IF WE WISH TO EXPLORE IT AT ONE TIME. DALLAS WAS ITS OWN HEALTH AUTHORITY, BUT WE HAVE VERY MAJOR HOSPITAL SYSTEMS THAT COULD ALSO DO THE JOB. WE'VE NEVER EVEN LOOKED TO SEE IF THIS IS THE RIGHT THING. WE'VE NEVER EVEN LOOKED AT THE DATA, AND AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START ASKING OURSELVES, ARE WE GOING TO JUST KEEP APPROVING THINGS BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THAT WAY? OR IS THERE A BETTER WAY THAT WILL PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS? THIS MIGHT BE THE PERFECT FIT. WE MIGHT WANT TO CONTINUE EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE, BUT SHOULDN'T WE AT LEAST HAVE THE DATA TO KNOW. THAT'S A GOOD DECISION, NUMBER ONE, AND GET SOME REPORTING BACK TO SEE IF WE HAVE THE AVAILABILITY THAT WE HOPE WE HAVE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A MORE BASIC QUESTION. SINCE THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PUBLIC HEALTH WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE COUNTY, WHICH INCLUDES MOST OF THE CITY, WHY? WHAT IS THE HISTORY, IF YOU WILL, OF THIS CITY ACTING AS A PUBLIC HEALTH AUTHORITY? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. AND HONORABLE MAYOR MEMBERS AND MADAM CITY MANAGER KEVIN ODEN, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE. THE ROLE OF THE HEALTH AUTHORITY IS DEFINED IN CHAPTER 121 OF THE TEXAS HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE. AND IF I CAN JUST BRIEFLY READ, THOSE ROLES ARE TO ENFORCE PUBLIC HEALTH LAWS, INVESTIGATE AND CONTROLLING COMMUNICABLE DISEASES, [01:35:05] ISSUING CONTROL OR QUARANTINE ORDERS, AND ENSURING CONSISTENCY WITH STATE AND LOCAL HEALTH REGULATIONS. SO THIS ITEM AND DALLAS COUNTY SERVING AS OUR HEALTH AUTHORITY IS A VERY LIMITED SCOPE. AND IT BASICALLY HELPS PROTECT THE CITY IN THE EVENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCIES OCCURRING WITH OUR COLLABORATION BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNTY. WELL, THE STATUTE THAT YOU JUST READ DOESN'T DESIGNATE DALLAS AS THE CITY OF DALLAS. THAT IS, AS THE HEALTH AUTHORITY. IS IT APPLICABLE TO MUNICIPALITIES OR IS THAT DIRECTED TO COUNTIES? SO EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN TEXAS HAS A HEALTH AUTHORITY. NOW, A MUNICIPALITY MAY CHOOSE WHO THEIR HEALTH AUTHORITY IS. AND THE CRITERIA FOR BEING A HEALTH AUTHORITY IS FURTHER SPECIFIED IN CHAPTER 121. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE HEALTH AUTHORITY IN THIS CONTEXT ARE VERY, VERY NARROW, AND THEY'RE RELATED TO PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCIES, COMMUNICABLE DISEASES, AND HOW WE RESPOND TO LARGE SCALE EMERGENCIES. SO THIS CONTRACT, THIS TWO YEAR PROPOSED CONTRACT, WHAT SERVICES WOULD THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDE TO THE CITY? SO GOOD MORNING, TRAVIS HOUSTON, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE. REALLY THE THE PRIMARY SCOPE OF SERVICES BEYOND SERVING AS THE CITY'S APPOINTED HEALTH AUTHORITY. THIS CONTRACT AND AND THERE'S A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE ATTACHED TO THE CONTRACT THAT SORT OF OUTLINES HOW WE WORK TOGETHER. AND REALLY, THE THE THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL PURPOSE OF THAT IS HOW WE COORDINATE THE PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE, BEING THAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEALTH OPERATIONAL ARM, AND SO IT REQUIRES THINGS LIKE NOTIFICATION TO THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WITHIN 24 HOURS OF A COMMUNICABLE DISEASE, YOU KNOW, BEING IDENTIFIED ESTABLISHING A UNIFIED COMMAND STRUCTURE DURING PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCIES THAT WOULD PUT DALLAS COUNTY AND CITY OF DALLAS WORKING TOGETHER TOWARDS THE RESPONSE REALLY OUTSIDE OF THE VERY SPECIFIC THINGS IN 121 THAT A HEALTH AUTHORITY DOES, WHICH IS MOSTLY ENFORCING PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, QUARANTINE ORDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE PURPOSE OF THE CONTRACT IS TO ESTABLISH IN AN EMERGENCY HOW WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO RESPOND. AND I, WE'VE DONE THAT YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES WITH THE COUNTY OVER THE YEARS. SO HOW WAS THAT, MADAM CITY MANAGER, IF I COULD JUST ADD. THANK YOU SO MUCH TO BOTH OF OUR DIRECTOR AND OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE. I THINK THE OTHER PIECE TO THIS THAT WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR ON IS THAT BY HAVING THIS AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS COUNTY, IT ACTUALLY ALSO APPOINTS THE DIRECTOR OF THE DALLAS COUNTY AND HEALTH HUMAN SERVICES TO ACTUALLY BE THE THE PERSON THAT DOES THE INTERFACING THAT BOTH TRAVIS AND KEVIN HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT. SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING THE SERVICES OF DOCTOR PHIL PHILIP WONG. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THE ADDITIONAL THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED THIS IS REALLY A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE TYPE OF, OF, OF AGREEMENT TO WHERE THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE OUTLINED FROM NOTIFICATIONS TO PROTOCOLS, IF THERE IS A AN OUTBREAK, HOW THEY WORK WITH THE CITY, HOW THEY NOTIFY THE CITY, HOW THEY INFORM THE PUBLIC, THAT IS REALLY THE BARE BONES OF WHAT THIS AGREEMENT IS. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A $10,000 ANNUAL COST. AND OVER THE TWO YEAR PERIOD IT'S A $20,000 COST. SO IT'S A VERY LIMITED, VERY NARROW SCOPE OF SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED UNDER THIS AGREEMENT. SO WHAT WAS THE SCOPE OF SERVICES? ASSUMING THAT THE CONTRACT WAS IN PLACE DURING THE COVID 19 EPIDEMIC, HOW DID WE BENEFIT DURING THAT TIME PERIOD FROM THIS CONTRACT? SO THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. DURING THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC, VERY EARLY ON, WE ESTABLISHED A UNIFIED COMMAND STRUCTURE WITH DALLAS COUNTY. AND SO THAT WAS THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DOCTOR WONG, AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND INDIVIDUALS WITH AN OPERATIONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR RESPONDING TO PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCIES. DOCTOR ISAACS FROM DALLAS FIRE RESCUE INDIVIDUALS LIKE THAT. AND REALLY, THAT GROUP WAS DRIVING A LOT OF THE DECISIONS AND OPERATIONAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THINGS LIKE COVID 19 TESTING SITES, VACCINE SITES. THOSE. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND SO THAT WAS LEVERAGED THROUGH THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. AND AND THAT WAS REALLY HOW WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY AT THE TIME. [01:40:04] THANK YOU. YES, SIR. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? LET'S TAKE A RECORD VOTE. YES, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. JOHNSON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. CADENA NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLAIR. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. WILLIS. NO. MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO. YES. AND MAYOR JOHNSON IS ABSENT. AND VOTE TAKEN. WITH SEVEN VOTING IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED, TWO ABSENT AND ONE ABSENT. ONE VOTE TAKEN. THIS AMENDMENT PASSES, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR NEXT PULLED ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 13. AGENDA ITEM 13. AUTHORIZE ONE YEAR. I'M SORRY. [13. 25-2604A Authorize one-year subrecipient agreement(s), with two one-year renewal options, contingent on available funding, with a term beginning on October 1, 2025, approved as to form by the City Attorney, with subrecipients for Housing Opportunities for Persons with AIDS (HOPWA) programs as follows: (a) Health Services of North Texas, Inc. for Emergency/Tenant Based Rental Assistance in total contract amount not to exceed $863,225.00; (b) Legacy Counseling Center, Inc. for Facility Based Housing Services in a total contract amount not to exceed $240,429.00; (c) Legacy Counseling Center, Inc. for Master Leasing Services in a total contract amount not to exceed $693,031.00; (d) Legacy Counseling Center, Inc. for Housing Information Services in a total contract amount not to exceed $147,980.00; (e) PWA Coalition of Dallas, Inc. dba AIDS Services of Dallas for Emergency/Tenant Based Rental Assistance in a total contract amount not to exceed $260,810.00; (f) PWA Coalition of Dallas, Inc. dba AIDS Services of Dallas for Facility Based Housing Services in a total contract amount not to exceed $1,624,273.00; and (g) PWA Coalition of Dallas, Inc. dba AIDS Services of Dallas for Master Leasing and Emergency Voucher Services in a total contract amount not to exceed $336,790.00 - Total not to exceed $4,166,538.00 - Financing: FY 2024-25 Housing Opportunities for Persons with AIDS Grant Fund ($22,713.00) and FY 2025-26 Housing Opportunities for Persons with AIDS Grant Fund ($4,143,825.00)] AUTHORIZED ONE YEAR SUB RECIPIENT AGREEMENTS WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS CONTINGENT ON AVAILABLE FUNDING, WITH THE TERM BEGINNING ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, AS APPROVED TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH SUB RECIPIENTS FOR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS. HOPWA PROGRAMS AS FOLLOWED AS FOLLOWS A HEALTH SERVICES OF NORTH TEXAS, INC. FOR EMERGENCY TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE IN TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $863,225. B LEGACY COUNSELING CENTER, INC. FOR FACILITY BASED HOUSING SERVICES AND A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $240,429. C LEGACY COUNSELING CENTER, INC. FOR A MASTER LEASING SERVICES IN A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $693,031 D LEGACY COUNSELING CENTER, INC. FOR HOUSING INFORMATION SERVICES IN A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $147,980. DOLLARS. EPW COALITION OF DALLAS, INC., DBA AIDS SERVICES OF DALLAS FOR EMERGENCY TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $260,810 F. PWA COALITION OF DALLAS, INC., DBA AIDS SERVICES OF DALLAS FOR FACILITY BASED HOUSING SERVICES AND A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,624,273 AND G. PWA COALITION OF DALLAS, INC., DBA AIDS SERVICES OF DALLAS FOR MASTER LEASING AND EMERGENCY VOUCHER SERVICES AND A TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $336,790. TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $4,166,538. THIS IS YOUR ITEM AND THIS ITEM WAS ALSO PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN MR. MAYOR CHAIR MIDDLETON. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO. I MOVE TO SEND THIS ITEM TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS COMMITTEE AND BRING BACK TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL ON THE OCTOBER 22ND AGENDA. WAS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? YES. PLEASE GO AHEAD. SO ACTUALLY THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS THAT I'VE PULLED THAT ARE ALL RELATED TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SPECIFICALLY THEIR HOMELESSNESS. AND I'VE DONE THAT BECAUSE NONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE, NOR THE FULL COUNCIL. IT COULD HAVE BEEN BRIEFED TO THE FULL COUNCIL, BUT IT WASN'T. SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE NO OUTCOME MEASURES ON THE PERFORMANCE OF LAST YEAR'S CONTRACTS. WE HAVE NO OPPORTUNITY TO SET GOALS FOR THE COMING YEAR, AND WE HAVE NO PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE FOR THE COMING YEAR. ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A PROBLEMATIC HOMELESS AUDIT TO CONSIDER. FOR THESE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE ITEMS ARE DEFERRED TO THE OCTOBER 22ND COUNCIL MEETING. LOOKING FORWARD, I ALSO REQUEST THAT THESE CONTRASTS BE PLACED ANNUALLY ON THE JUNE AGENDA OF THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE. IF WE'RE UNAWARE OF THE FULL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE WOULD BE RECEIVING FOR ESG OR ANY OF THE OTHER SOURCES THAT ARE PART OF HOPWA THAT ARE [01:45:03] PART OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE COMING. I WOULD SAY WE COULD STILL BE HAVING THIS POLICY DISCUSSION ABOUT PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENTS AND GOALS AND THEN JUST DEAL WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WHEN IT COMES. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE PLACING SIGNIFICANT MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACTS ON THE VERY LAST COUNCIL AGENDA BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINS, WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REVIEW AND ADJUSTMENT IS MOST LIMITED. IF WE EXPECT RESULTS IN ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS, WE MUST SET CLEAR GOALS, MEASURE PERFORMANCE, AND ADJUST THE COURSE AS IS NEEDED. THESE THINGS SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE WE RENEW AND EXPAND CONTRACTS. OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING USED EFFECTIVELY AND STRATEGICALLY. I'LL NOTE THAT DOCTOR WOODY CAME AND SPOKE ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 21. I DID NOT PULL, WHICH IS REALLY A PASS THROUGH FROM THE COUNTY AND OF COURSE SHOULD GO THROUGH. THESE HAVE AT VARIOUS TIMES BEEN ALSO DELAYED, NOT UNLIKE THE JAIL CONTRACT. SO WITH THAT I BELIEVE THAT THIS, AS WELL AS ITEMS 21 THROUGH 26, SHOULD BE SENT TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND THEN BROUGHT BACK ON THE 22ND. I SHARE THESE THOUGHTS ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS SO THAT FOR EFFICIENCY'S SAKE, I WON'T GO THROUGH THIS ALL AGAIN. IT'S THE SAME. IT'S THE SAME ISSUE FOR EVERY ONE OF THEM. THANK YOU. CHAIR WEST. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CAN I GET STAFF UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM, PLEASE? ALL RIGHT. SO I SUPPORTED THE FIRST TWO DEFERRALS TO COMMITTEE BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE A HARM TO THE ISSUE, WHATEVER THE CONTRACT WAS. BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE OTHER ONES THAT WERE REFERENCED BY MY COLLEAGUES AND THERE BEING SOME GAP IN SERVICE. IS THIS ONE OF THOSE THAT WE COULD SEE A GAP IN SERVICE IF THIS CONTRACT IS NOT APPROVED BY SEPTEMBER 30TH? YES. THERE WOULD LIKELY BE SOME GAP IN SERVICES. SO THIS CONTRACT IS OUR CONTRACT WITH MULTIPLE NONPROFIT SUBRECIPIENTS TO ADMINISTER VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY FOR PERSONS WITH AIDS PROGRAM. IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY FOR HOMELESSNESS. IT'S ALSO A HOUSING STABILITY AND ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AS WELL. IT WAS NOT PART OF THE HOMELESSNESS AUDIT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I WILL SAY THE POTENTIAL IMPACT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY THE TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE, FACILITY BASED HOUSING AND MASTER LEASING COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAM, IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE THOSE PROGRAMS TEND TO SERVE PEOPLE FOR THE LONG TERM, THE RESIDENTS THAT RECEIVE SERVICES THROUGH THE HOPWA PROGRAM ARE VULNERABLE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED WITH HIV AND AIDS, AND MANY OF THEM REALLY RELY ON THE PROGRAM TO MAINTAIN THEIR HOUSING AS WELL AS THEIR OVERALL HEALTH, WELLNESS, AND QUALITY OF LIFE, BECAUSE THEY ALSO RECEIVE COUNSELING AND CASEWORK AND CASE MANAGEMENT THROUGH THE PROGRAM SERVICES. AS FAR AS THE OTHER COMPONENTS THERE WOULD BE IMPACT THAT THERE MAY NOT BE NEW INTAKE THROUGH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL MORTGAGE, UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS OR EMERGENCY VOUCHERS. BUT I THINK THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT WOULD BE ON THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE UNDER MASTER LEASING OR UNDER THOSE LONG TERM PLACEMENT PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. AND YOU PROBABLY NEED TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT THAT'S OKAY, I APOLOGIZE. YES, I AM JESSICA. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE AND EMPOWERMENT. THANK YOU. AND TO CONTINUE THE WAY THE CITY SECRETARY READ THIS IN. IT DOES INDICATE THAT THE CONTRACT TERM BEGINS ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, WHICH IS IN SEVEN DAYS. SO THAT IS A CONCERN I HAVE. THIS IS ALSO A STANDARD YEARLY CONTRACT THAT WE THAT WE ENGAGE IN WITH THESE PROVIDERS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. I REMEMBER THIS FROM WHEN I WAS CHAIR OF HOUSING. WE HAVE THIS EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? YES. SO THE WE TYPICALLY HAVE DONE CONTRACTS FOR A TERM OF THREE YEARS, WHICH INCLUDES RENEWALS. SO IT WILL BE YEARLY BECAUSE EACH OF THOSE RENEWALS WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL. AND OF COURSE WE CAN PLAN AHEAD TO BRING THOSE RENEWALS EARLIER. THE THIS ONE IS A SOLICITATION BASIS. SO THERE WAS A BIT MORE OF A TIME CONSTRAINT CHALLENGE. SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO MOVE THAT TIMEFRAME FORWARD BY THREE MONTHS. OKAY. AND THEN I WOULD JUST ALSO SAY, LIKE, I'M SYMPATHETIC TO WANTING TO SEND THINGS BACK TO COMMITTEE TO WORK ON THEM WHEN WE HAVE THESE, THESE GAPS OR THESE URGENT THINGS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SEE WITH THE WINGS IN A MINUTE. YOU KNOW, SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS CAN HAPPEN FOR COMMITTEES, JUST LIKE WE DID YESTERDAY FOR THE PROFESSIONAL SPORTS COMMITTEE. SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS ITEM. I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING ANY DELAYS ON THE OTHER ITEMS REFERENCED FOR HOMELESSNESS. AND I THINK I'VE SAID MY PIECE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER BAZALDUA, THANK YOU. [01:50:05] I THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED ALREADY FROM YOU, JESSICA. SO THANK YOU. BUT, KIM MADAM CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO HERE ON THE AGENDA? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH TO THE COUNCIL. AS A BODY, I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL SAY THAT AS WE KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF OUR TIME IS SPENT DURING THE MONTH OF AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER WORKING THROUGH THE BUDGET, AND I DO NOT WANT IT TO APPEAR AS IF STAFF INTENTIONALLY WAITED TO PUT THESE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. THIS HAS BEEN THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE FOLLOWED. EVERY YEAR. WHEN COMMITTEES ARE NOT IN SESSION, WE THEN TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A FULL MEMORANDUM, AS WE DID WITH ALL OF THESE ITEMS IN ADVANCE. SO YOU'RE AT LEAST AWARE THAT THEY'RE COMING AND THAT WE CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, AS MISS SHAW HAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE SUB RECIPIENTS THAT ACTUALLY SUPPORT SERVICE DELIVERY. WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT, IT'S SUPPORTING ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE DO AROUND OUR HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PERSONS LIVING WITH AIDS. WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOLICITATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SELECTING THOSE VENDORS THAT CAN DELIVER THE SERVICES IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE GOALS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED. IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES GOING FORWARD AS WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT TIMELINES FOR THESE ANNUAL TYPES OF CONTRACTS, WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS DOING THAT. BUT THIS HAS BEEN OUR PROCESS EVERY YEAR. WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A GAP BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES ARE FORMED, WE DID ALSO SEND THAT MEMORANDUM ON ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT I SEE HERE THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS NEEDING TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE AGAIN, THAT WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO THIS IS REALLY ALLOWING FOR US TO MOVE THOSE SERVICES FORWARD. THE CURRENT CONTRACTS WILL EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER THE 30TH, AND THIS ALLOWS FOR THOSE CONTRACTS TO MOVE FORWARD, BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH THE ALLOCATION OF THE RESOURCES, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST. THANK YOU. AND WHAT ON THE FUNDING SOURCES CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FUNDING SOURCES? I'M GOING TO HAVE JESSICA, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR ITEM NUMBER 13? YES, THAT ONE IN PARTICULAR. SO THIS ITEM IS FUNDED THROUGH HUD GRANT DOLLARS THROUGH OUR CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE HOPWA PROGRAM BUCKET. SO I'M CURIOUS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ALWAYS HEAR. IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE HAVE FEDERAL MONEY, BUT IT'S ALSO A BAD THING THAT WE HAVE FEDERAL MONEY. I'M CURIOUS WHAT METRICS AND MEASURABLE OUTCOMES OR DATA IS REQUIRED FOR US TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FEDERAL DOLLARS? OKAY. YEAH. SUE, THE HOPWA PROGRAM DOES INTAKE THROUGH THE INFORMATION SYSTEM, AND THEY EACH OF THE PROGRAMMATIC COMPONENTS HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT RULES. WHEN IT COMES TO SHORT TERM, THAT IS CAPPED AT UP TO 21 WEEKS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE. EACH OF THE RECIPIENTS OF FUNDING FOR THIS, WHAT WE CALL SHORT TERM RENTAL MORTGAGE UTILITY ASSISTANCE FROM YOU FOR THE STREAM PROGRAM, HAVE TARGET GOALS. SO THAT HAS I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT A TARGET TOTAL OF ABOUT 67 CLIENTS BETWEEN THOSE. WE HAVE A TARGET FOR OUR TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE BETWEEN EACH OF THE PARTNERS THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERING THAT OF 40. WE HAVE A TARGET FOR THE FACILITY BASED HOUSING PROGRAM FOR THE PARTNERS THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERING THAT OF 200. WE HAVE A TARGET FOR THE MASTER LEASE HOUSING PROGRAM FOR THE PARTNERS THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERING THAT ONE OF 50. AND THEN WE HAVE A TARGET FOR EMERGENCY VOUCHERS, EXCUSE ME, OF 13 FOR HOUSING PLACEMENT THAN THE THE TARGET, I BELIEVE, IS FOR THE PLACEMENT AND THE ASSISTANCE. IT IS 160. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE ARE MEASURABLE METRICS THAT ARE ARE PUT IN PLACE AS A REQUIREMENT FOR THESE FEDERAL DOLLARS. AND AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THROUGH MEMO AT LEAST BEEN BRIEFED ON WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT. AND JUST TO REITERATE CITY MANAGER, THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET PART OF THE HUD CONSOLIDATED BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS BODY. THESE ARE THE CONTRACTS THAT ALLOW FOR US TO MOVE THAT FUNDING FORWARD, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. SO THE ANSWER IS YES. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS ALSO HIGHLIGHTED. WE HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN COUNCIL ACTION ON THIS. I JUST YOU KNOW, I AM ALL ABOUT OVERSIGHT AND WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO ALSO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF OUR ROLE. [01:55:08] AND WHEN IT TO ME, GETS INTO A SLIPPERY SLOPE OF MICROMANAGEMENT WE AS THE POLICY BODY, HAVE ALREADY STAMPED AS THE GOVERNING BODY, THIS THESE CONTRACTS AND TO DELAY SOMETHING THAT WOULD IMPACT SERVICE IN SUCH CRITICAL PROGRAMING TO ME IS JUST NOT GOOD GOVERNING. AND WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE VERY SKILLED STAFF. AND ONCE WE HAVE TAKEN ACTION AND ASKED THEM TO EXECUTE OUR CONTRACTS THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO DO NOW. AND SO I DON'T BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE APPROPRIATE PLACE. AND I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE FOR US TO SET A PRECEDENT OR EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE THE MICROMANAGING ARM OF EVERY SINGLE CONTRACT THAT COMES THROUGH, ESPECIALLY AT A LATER DATE, ONCE WE'VE ALREADY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN APPROVAL AS A BODY. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS, I GUESS, A GOOD EXERCISE FOR US TO CALIBRATE WHERE OUR EXPECTATION IS AS A BODY. BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE STEPPING AWAY FROM POLICY MAKING AND STEPPING INTO MICROMANAGING OF STAFF, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT'S OUR ROLE. THANK YOU, CHAIR RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, JESSICA, WHEN WE APPLY FOR THESE HUD HOPWA GRANTS, THEY HAVE CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ACCEPT AND PERFORM. YES. SO WE HAVE TO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF REGULATIONS AND RULES RELATED TO THE HOPWA ADMINISTRATION AND THE DEFINITIONS AROUND EACH OF THE SERVICE TYPES THAT CAN BE DELIVERED. OKAY. AND THEN WHEN WE ENTER INTO THE SUBRECIPIENT GRANTS WITH THE VARIOUS SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS LISTED IN THIS ITEM, WE PASS THOSE CRITERIA ON TO THEM, EXPECTING THEM TO PERFORM THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE SUBJECT TO. YES. SO WE EXPECT THEM TO PERFORM THAT CRITERIA THAT IS COMMUNICATED FROM THIS POINT OF THE THE PROPOSAL AND AND NOFA RFP PROCESS, AS WELL AS ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE CONTRACT. WE HAVE A CONTRACT INTAKE MEETING IN WHICH WE SIT DOWN WITH EACH SUBRECIPIENT WE DELIVER THEIR CONTRACT TO THEM, WE WALK THEM THROUGH ALL THE KEY AND PERTINENT PARTS. WE TALK ABOUT REPORTING REQUIREMENTS. WE TALK ABOUT CONTRACT MONITORING AND THOSE PROCESSES. IN THE EARLY MONTHS OF CONTRACT, WE DO SAMPLE DESK AUDITS OF CERTAIN CLIENT DATA FILES TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARTNERS ARE ACTUALLY MAINTAINING RECORDS IN THE APPROPRIATE WAY. AND THEN WE MOVE INTO AN ANNUAL AUDIT PROCESS BY WHICH WE ACTUALLY WILL VISIT EACH OF THOSE SITES. AND WE WILL VIEW THEIR RECORDS, THEIR FILES THEIR OPERATING TO ENSURE THAT IT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE PROGRAMMATIC EXPECTATIONS. SIMILARLY, OUR TEAM IS ACTUALLY MONITORED THROUGH OUR OUR OFFICE IS ALSO MONITORED BY THE TEAM FROM BMS AS WELL AS OF COURSE, HUD ITSELF. WILL MONITOR AND AUDIT OUR OUR RECORDS. SO, AS ONE WOULD EXPECT I SEE NO REASON TO DEFER THIS MATTER GIVEN THAT LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT. CHAIR STEWART. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I ALSO I CONCUR WITH THAT. I THINK THERE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF SCRUTINY IN THIS PROCESS AND THAT'S THAT IS GOOD TO HEAR. BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE TRACK OF THE CONCERN THAT PUBLIC POLICY DISCUSSIONS AROUND PERFORMANCE METRICS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE GOOD. AND SO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE BRIEFINGS TO COMMITTEES AND COMMITTEES ARE CLEAR ON WHAT THOSE METRICS ARE, WHAT ARE OUR EXPECTATIONS? WE WE REALLY DO NEED TO TO MAYBE PRIORITIZE THAT THIS COMING YEAR SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THIS POINT NEXT YEAR, WE GO, OH, I REMEMBER THAT BRIEFING. AND YES, I RECALL THOSE PERFORMANCE METRICS AND HOW WELL WE HAD DONE OR WHERE WE HAD SOME SHORTFALLS, AND WE KNOW WE NEED TO SHORE IT UP. SO I THINK IT'S A BOTH AND. AND THIS SITUATION, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE DOING THOSE THINGS. I DON'T KNOW, GOING FORWARD HOW MUCH WE'RE DOING THOSE THINGS ON SOME OF OUR OTHER ITEMS. BUT ALL IN ALL, I DO AGREE WITH CHAIR WEST. IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A GAP IN SERVICES OR SOME KIND OF SIGNIFICANT IMPACT BY NOT APPROVING A CONTRACT, THAT I'M GOING TO NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT MOTION. BUT SO IT'S KIND OF WE NEED BOTH AT THIS POINT. WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE POLICY DISCUSSIONS ON THE PERFORMANCE METRICS. AND YET WE CAN'T LET OUR PARTNERS DOWN AS WELL. [02:00:01] SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MADAM CITY MANAGER. YES. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO TO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN STEWART, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AND AS WE GO INTO THIS NEXT YEAR OF CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE ASKED MY TEAM TO DO IS TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH COMMITTEE CHAIRS TO WHERE WE CAN START ELEVATING POLICY CONSIDERATIONS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE OFTENTIMES IN THE PAST, A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE BRIEFING ARE I'LL USE THE WORD FEEL GOOD, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY GIVING US SOME POLICY DIRECTION. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING VERY INTENTIONALLY OVER THIS UPCOMING YEAR TO BE ABLE TO PULL OUT AND HELP COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH POLICY FACTORS, SHARING PROS AND CONS, AND BEING ABLE TO DO THAT IN ADVANCE. AND SO AS YOU DELIVER TO US THE WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING, THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH THE HOW WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING. SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR ROLE IS ON THE HOUSE SIDE, AND YOUR ROLE AS POLICY MAKERS IS THE WHAT. AND SO WE DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT 100%. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO WHERE BY THE TIME WE GET HERE, WE'RE NOT UNDOING AND THEN HAVING THE POLICY CONVERSATION WHEN THE ITEM IS BEFORE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT THIS COUNCIL CODIFIED IN OUR 20 2526 BUDGET THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND ACTION ON STOPPING THE INFLOW AROUND HOMELESSNESS AND AROUND ISSUES IN HOUSING. AND I I'M FOR THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT MODEL. I THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR COMMITTEES SHOULD DO. BUT WHAT I'M NOT FOR IS THIS 11TH HOUR CHANGING OR NOT APPROVING A CONTRACT TO SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE? IN A WAY, WE'RE PENALIZING OTHERS FOR OUR OWN ACTION OR INACTION ON DEALING WITH THIS. SO EVEN THOUGH CONTRACTS COME UP AT A CERTAIN TIME OF YEAR, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH HUD AND OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES, THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP COMMITTEE CHAIR, FROM PUTTING SOMETHING ON AGENDA, SAYING, WE KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE COMING UP. AND SO LET'S GET AHEAD OF THIS AND TALK ABOUT REALLY ASSESS PERFORMANCE MEASURES. ARE THEY EVERYTHING WE EXPECT. ARE WE GETTING THE COMPLIANCE AND THE REPORTING THAT WE NEED AND ADDRESSING THIS IN A PROACTIVE FASHION. SO I DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE OTHERS FOR WHAT COUNSEL COULD BE DOING BETTER. AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT BECAUSE I THINK IT HAS AN IMPACT ON THE INFLOW AND STARTING THAT AGAIN, IF WE IF WE DON'T TAKE ACTION. AND SO I YEAH, I WON'T SUPPORT THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CADENA. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE DELAY. BUT I DO I KNOW WHEN I TOURED THE HOUSING FACILITIES, THEY WERE VERY NICE. AND THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT RAN THEM HAVE AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH. WHAT ARE THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THOSE THAT HAVE THESE SERVICES AND THEN WHAT ARE SOME OF THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR THEM? SO DEMOGRAPHICALLY SPEAKING, I'M NOT SURE I ACTUALLY HAVE THE DEMOGRAPHIC GRAPHIC BREAKDOWN IN THAT WAY. BUT AS FAR AS THE ELIGIBILITY, CHIEFLY IT IS THE IMPACT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE MEDICAL ELIGIBILITY WITH REGARDS TO HIV OR AIDS DIAGNOSES. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THAT THEY MEET THE INCOME CRITERIA IN TERMS OF BEING LOW INCOME. OKAY. THANKS. CHAIR MENDELSOHN FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER $4 MILLION TO ALLOCATE. HAVE YOU SHARED THE PARTNER PERFORMANCE WITH THE COUNCIL? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. I'M NOT, I DON'T. SO HOW WOULD WE KNOW HOW THEY'RE DOING? WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT ALL OF THE PARTNERS THAT ARE UNDER THE CURRENT. BUT WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THAT INFORMATION COMING TO THIS DISCUSSION. IS THAT CORRECT? WELL WE UNFORTUNATELY WERE NOT ABLE TO BRIEF TO COMMITTEE BECAUSE THERE WERE NOT ANY COMMITTEE MEETINGS IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER. BUT YOU COULD HAVE IN JUNE OR MAY. WELL, THAT WAS AND SOMETHING THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. OKAY. WELL, I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THIS INFORMATION OR EVEN BY BRIEFING MEMO DETAILS OF PERFORMANCE COULD HAVE BEEN SHARED. IS THAT CORRECT? I'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU, MISS GALLISHAW, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO AGAIN, LOOK LIKE STAFF HAS INTENTIONALLY DONE ANYTHING INCORRECT. WE DEFINITELY WILL TAKE THE FEEDBACK ON WHEN THERE'S NO COMMITTEES. HOW DO WE BETTER WORK WITH THE CHAIR? EVEN IF A CHAIR HAS NOT BEEN APPOINTED? WE'LL WORK WITH THE MOST RECENT PAST CHAIR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ELEVATING THAT INFORMATION. AND WE KNOW WE WRITE A LOT OF MEMOS. AND SO I WELCOME FEEDBACK. IF THE MEMOS ARE SHORT ON CERTAIN TYPES OF INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE. [02:05:01] SO AS WE TALK ABOUT CONTRACTS GOING FORWARD. IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DETAIL IF IT'S NOT A COMMITTEE DISCUSSION INTO OUR MEMORANDUMS, DETAILS AROUND PERFORMANCE MEASURES WHAT THE GOALS ARE, THE OBJECTIVES, WE WILL DEFINITELY ELEVATE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN WRITING. FOR FOR YOU GOING FORWARD. WELL, CITY MANAGER, JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, IF THERE'S A CONTRACT WORTH OVER $1 MILLION, I WOULD EXPECT IT TO GO TO A COMMITTEE OR THE FULL COUNCIL. AND WE CERTAINLY COULD HAVE HAD THAT ON A BRIEFING DAY. SO THAT WOULD BE INPUT FROM ME. HUD GIVES THIS MONEY TO MUNICIPALITIES AS A FORMULA GRANT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THE MONEY IS AWARDED TO US AS A MUNICIPALITY. OKAY. AND THEY GIVE IT TO US BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO KNOW OUR COMMUNITY THE BEST. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KNOW OUR PROVIDERS THE BEST, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE EVALUATED THOSE PERFORMANCE METRICS SO THAT WE HAVE THAT LOCAL LEVEL OVERSIGHT OVER THE FUNDS. IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT WE'RE THE LARGEST MUNICIPALITY IN ISMA. YEAH. SO THE PROBLEM IS WE DO NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF OVERSIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN PERFORMANCE METRICS, WHICH IS WHY I BELIEVE IT SHOULD GO TO COMMITTEE. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN THE JAIL OR THE HEALTH AUTHORITY IN THAT. YES, ALL OF THIS WAS INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. THIS IS, OF COURSE, JUST A PASS THROUGH. BUT WHILE WE APPROVE IT IN THE BUDGET, DOESN'T MEAN WE ACTUALLY OKAY THE CONTRACTS WITHOUT HAVING SEEN ANY KIND OF PERFORMANCE MEASURES. SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN VOTE HOWEVER THEY WANT. BUT IT IS ACTUALLY OUR JOB THAT IS OUR FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO BE READING THESE CONTRACTS, CONSIDERING PAST PERFORMANCE, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS THAT MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY VOTING FOR, NOT JUST RUBBER STAMPING WHAT STAFF DOES. EVEN IF YOU THINK HIGHLY OF THEM AND THEY'RE PROFESSIONAL, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT WHAT OUR JOB IS. WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE THE DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT APPROPRIATELY. AND AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD THIS INFORMATION SHARED WITH US. SO THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT. AND IF IT'S GREAT, LET'S CELEBRATE IT. AND NEXT MONTH LET'S PASS IT. BUT IT IS PROBLEMATIC TO ASK US TO APPROVE OVER $4 MILLION WHEN WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS. IT WAS PUT ON RECORD THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE BRIEFED IN JUNE AT A HOUSING COMMITTEE THAT I BELIEVE WAS CANCELED BY OUR CHAIR. I'M. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT, BUT. OKAY. I JUST BELIEVE THAT WE WE'VE HAD REGULAR UPDATES AND EVEN IN THE MEMO FORM, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD REGULAR UPDATES, BUT I DO KNOW THAT OUR LAST HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE MEETING WAS CANCELED IN JUNE OF THIS YEAR. SO I THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT CONTEXT AS WELL. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THERE IS A RECORD VOTE. GRANTED, MADAM CITY SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND POINT OF INFORMATION. WHAT IS THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR? IT'S TO DEFER RIGHT TO COMMITTEE, RIGHT TO TO LET ME STATE THIS ONE SECOND TO REMAND THE ITEM TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION AND TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL ON THE OCTOBER 22ND, 2025, CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. THANK YOU. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. JOHNSON. I'M SORRY. NO. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLAIR. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. ROTH IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY. NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. WILLIS. NO. MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO. NO. MAYOR. JOHNSON. NO. NO. WITH 12. I'M SORRY. WITH ONE. VOTING IN FAVOR. 12. OPPOSED TO ABSENT. THE MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR, MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR NEXT PULLED ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 17. AGENDA ITEM 17 AUTHORIZED ONE. [17. 25-2026A Authorize (1) Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to the owner's representative - design/construction project management services contract with Dikita Enterprises, lnc. for the implementation of Component Four of the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas (KBHCCD) master plan in an amount not to exceed $469,054.00 for additional project management services and owner’s representation necessary to temporarily relocate The Black Academy of Arts and Letters as tenant of the KBHCCD Theater Complex to The Women’s Museum construction; and (2) the establishment of appropriations in an amount not to exceed $469,054.00 in the Convention Center Revenue Bonds Series 2023 Fund, from $9,552,031.00 to $10,021,085.00 - Financing: Convention Center Revenue Bonds Series 2023 Fund] [02:10:09] SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE. DESIGN. CONSTRUCTION PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES CONTRACT WITH NIKITA ENTERPRISES, INC. FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMPONENT FOUR OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS, KB CCD MASTER PLAN IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $469,054 FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND OWNER'S REPRESENTATION NECESSARY TO TEMPORARILY RELOCATE THE BLACK ACADEMY OF ARTS AND LETTERS AS TENANT OF THE KB CCD THEATER COMPLEX TO THE WOMEN'S MUSEUM CONSTRUCTION AND TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $469,054 IN THE CONVENTION CENTER REVENUE BOND SERIES 2023 FUND FROM $9,552,031 TO $10,021,085. THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND IT'S ALSO BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I HEARD A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU PULLED IT. DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANTED TO SAY? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. THE. NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM PLEASE. YOUR NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 18. OKAY. AGENDA ITEM 18. AUTHORIZED ONE SUPPLEMENTAL. [18. 25-2247A Authorize (1) Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to the project manager/owner's representative services agreement with McKissack & McKissack, Inc. for (a) additional services associated with the implementation of Component Three of the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas master plan, which includes project management/owner's representation for the Secondary Facility located at 1200 North Cockrell Hill Road, Dallas, Texas 75211, not to exceed $3,338,807.00 (b) a one year contract extension to include additional services for the project management/owner's representation for the rehabilitation/renovation of the Dallas Memorial Auditorium (Arena), and necessitated by the City's obligations under the Full Court Partners LLC, d/b/a/ Dallas Wings contract not to exceed $2,624,537.00; and (2) the establishment of appropriations in an amount not to exceed $5,963,344.00, from $7,982,340.00 to $13,945,684.00 in the Convention Center Revenue Bonds Series 2023 Fund - Financing: Convention Center Revenue Bonds Series 2023 Fund] SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE PROJECT MANAGER. OWNERS REPRESENTATION SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH MCKISSACK AND MCKISSACK, INC. FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMPONENT THREE OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER DALLAS MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES PROJECT MANAGEMENT OWNERS REPRESENTATION FOR THE SECONDARY FACILITY LOCATED AT 1200 NORTH COCKRELL HILL ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75211 NOT TO EXCEED $3,338,807. BE A ONE YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OWNERS. REPRESENTATION FOR THE REHABILITATION RENOVATION OF THE DALLAS MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM ARENA AND NECESSITATED BY THE CITY'S OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE FULL COURT PARTNERS, LLC, DBA DALLAS WINGS CONTRACT NOT TO EXCEED $24,537 AND TWO ESTABLISHMENT OF APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,963,344, FROM $7,982,340 TO $13,000,945. $13,945,684 AND THE CONVENTION CENTER REVENUE BONDS. THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND IS ALSO WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. IS THERE A MOTION TO. CHAIRMAN WEST. THANK YOU. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. AGENDA ITEM 18. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK DIRECTOR FLEMING TO COME UP HERE. COLLEAGUES, THIS IS A $5.9 MILLION SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR THE WINGS FACILITY AT JOEY JORGENSEN PARK AND ALSO THE DALLAS MEMORIAL AUDITORIUM REHABILITATION. THIS WAS BRIEFED YESTERDAY AT A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON PROFESSIONAL SPORTS RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION. THIS SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT IS CRITICAL TO ENSURING WE STAY ON PACE TO MEET OUR CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT TO DELIVER THE WINGS, THEIR NEW STADIUM AT THE CONVENTION CENTER BY 2027, AND THEIR NEW TRAINING FACILITY AT THE PARK BY 2026. FOR MY COLLEAGUES WHO WERE NOT PART OF THE CONVERSATION YESTERDAY, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER BENTLEY AND ALSO OR DIRECTOR FLEMING. WHY IS THIS CONTRACT NEEDED? ABSOLUTELY. SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR FOR CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES. AND SO WHEN WE ANTICIPATED THE CONTRACT WITH MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK THEY PROPOSED ON BOTH INITIALLY THE AS YOU KNOW, FROM OUR PREVIOUS BRIEFINGS, THE PRACTICE FACILITY WAS GOING TO BE ON SITE AND CONNECTED TO THE ARENA. WHEN WE STARTED THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH MCKISSICK THAT TIMING ALIGNED WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH FIFA. FIFA HAD NOT YET, UNTIL THIS YEAR, IN FEBRUARY, SOLIDIFIED THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND SCOPE OF THEIR USE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER. SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE EMBARKED ON AN OFF SITE LOCATION WHEN WE BRIEFED YOU LAST AND YOU SELECTED AND AGREED TO THE ADDRESS AT GEORGE GEORGES PARK. [02:15:09] WE SAID THAT WE WOULD INCREASE THE SCOPE FOR GENSLER, WHO IS THE DESIGN ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT, TO ALLOW THEM TO DO WHAT WE BRIEFED YESTERDAY, WHICH WERE THE ADVANCED SCHEMATIC DESIGNS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE FEASIBILITY AND THE GO FORWARD TO GO INTO CONSTRUCTION DOCKS FOR THAT PROJECT. AND THEN WE BROUGHT BACK THE PM, THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE MOVING FORWARD. EVERYTHING WAS ALIGNED AND THEREFORE WE HAD A PROJECT FOR THEM TO PROJECT MANAGE. SO AT THAT TIME, THEY ADDED THEIR FEES FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE SECONDARY FACILITY. ON THE SECOND PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL SCOPE THAT'S NEEDED IN THE DELIVERY OF THE ARENA. WE ADDED BY ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION AND BY INFORMING COUNCIL THAT WE WERE GOING TO EXECUTE THE PORTION OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WITH THE WINGS TO EXTEND THE DELIVERY OF THE ARENA FROM 2026 TO 27, AGAIN IN ALIGNMENT WITH FIFA. AND SO WITH THAT, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, ONE, WE NEEDED TO ALIGN THE MCKISSICK CONTRACT WITH THAT YEAR. BUT AS WE BEGAN THE WORK AND THE DESIGN ON THE ARENA AND BEGAN THE INTEGRATION AND PROJECT INTEGRATION WITH THE OTHER COMPONENTS, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT CAME UP THAT ARE ADDITIONAL TO THE CENTER, INCLUDING AGED VAULTS THAT NEED TO BE UPDATED BY ENCORE THAT WERE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF SERVICES. THERE'S THE INTEGRATION OF THE PLAZA, WHICH WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE FOR THE ARENA, AND THERE IS SOME GEOTECHNICAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THE CITY HALL GARAGE. AS I BRIEFED YESTERDAY TO THE COMMITTEE, THE SCOPE FOR WSP DID NOT EXTEND INTO THAT, SO WE DID NOT KNOW THE ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING AND GEOTECHNICAL THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO TO SUSTAIN ANY PORTION OF THE CITY HALL GARAGE. SO THOSE ARE ADDED SCOPE. SO IN TOTALITY, THAT IS WHAT MAKES UP THE AGENDA ITEM. AND WHEN ARE WE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO DELIVER THE ARENA AND DELIVER THE PRACTICE FACILITY. 2027 FOR THE ARENA, 2026 FOR THE PRACTICE FACILITY. WHEN IN 2026. SO SPRING OF 2026 AND A SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION MODE, AND FOR THE ARENA FULL COMPLETION IN 2027 WITHOUT THE SUPPLEMENTAL CONTRACT TODAY, WILL WE BE ABLE TO DELIVER THESE FACILITIES ON TIME? WE WOULD NOT. AND AS DISCUSSED IN COMMITTEE YESTERDAY, JUST THE TIME THAT'S BEEN SPENT WITH THE WINGS, WITH OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE WNBA, WITH MACHETE GROUP, WHO IS A REPRESENTATIVE THAT WAS HIRED AS A PART AND AN OBLIGATION IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE WINGS ON THEIR SIDE, WORKING WITH THEM WOULD TAKE SOMEONE QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO JUST PLAY CATCH UP ON ALL THAT'S BEEN DONE SO FAR, AND IF WE DON'T DELIVER IT ON TIME, WE WILL BE IN VIOLATION OF OUR CONTRACT, RIGHT? WE WILL. WE WOULD. OKAY, I BELIEVE OUR MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB TURNING DALLAS INTO A WORLD CLASS SPORTS CITY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THIS INCLUDES BEING A WORLD CLASS PROFESSIONAL WOMEN SPORTS CITY AS WELL. IT'S CLEAR THAT THE MAJORITY OF OUR BODY HAS AGREED, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE CONTINUED TO SUPPORT THE WINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN OUR VOTES. AS CHAIR OF THE AD HOC SPORTS COMMITTEE, I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAMS AND OUR CITY'S PARTNERS. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. THANK YOU, MAYOR ROSE. SO THIS AGREEMENT IS SOLELY FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT, NOT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. AND SO WHAT WE DID YESTERDAY IN COMMITTEE WAS TO ASK WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY ASKED WAS FOR THEM TO LOOK AT THE ADVANCED SCHEMATICS AND LET US GO INTO CONSTRUCTION. SO AS WE DO THAT, WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK ONE LAST ITEM, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THAT COST THAT WE PRESENTED YESTERDAY OF 48.6 INCLUDES THE FEE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK CONTRACT WITH WITH THE FIRM TO HELP US DELIVER. AND HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO BE? IT'S A FEE BASED COMPONENT. I DON'T HAVE THAT BECAUSE WE'VE NOT COMPLETELY NEGOTIATED THAT CONTRACT, BUT WE DO HAVE. ONE SECOND. LET ME LOOK AT THE ESTIMATE FOR THAT. [02:20:10] I'M GOING TO NEED TO ASK FOR MCKISSICK TO COME DOWN. THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR SOME OF THAT INCLUDED IN THEIR DATA. I'M GETTING THERE. YEAH. AND SO ONCE THEY PROVIDE THAT NUMBER, WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING THAT BACK IN OCTOBER WITH SOME DESIGNS THAT ARE ADVANCED INTO THE CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT, ADVANCED BEYOND WHAT WAS PROVIDED YESTERDAY TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. AND SO IN THE FEE FOR THE QUESTION WAS IN THE FEE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK? WHAT'S THAT THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET? YES. DESMOND MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK. THAT FEE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK IS 3.85%. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. I CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION HERE SHORTLY THEREAFTER, BUT IT IS 3.85%. THANK YOU. AND SO, ROSA, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION COST. IF CONSTRUCTION GOES UP, WILL THESE FEES BE IN LINE WITH THE. SO, I MEAN, ARE WE APPROVING A FINAL NUMBER TODAY OR ARE WE JUST APPROVING A PERCENTAGE? SO TODAY WITH MCKISSICK AND MCKISSICK, YOU'RE APPROVING A FINAL NUMBER ON THE BUDGET. WE'VE MET WEEKLY WITH THE DALLAS WINGS AND WITH THEIR AGENT MACHETE GROUP, WHO IS THEIR ARCHITECT ENGINEERING FIRM HIRED AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT AND AGREEMENT WITH US. AND SO WE'VE ALIGNED THE COST TO COME IN AT ABOUT 48.6 MILLION. SO DOWN FROM THE 54. ONCE WE BRING THE SEEMA ON BOARD TO LOOK AT THESE COSTS, THEIR JOB IS TO VALUE ENGINEER, LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOME OF THIS AT A AT A DIFFERENT PRICE. OR OUR GOAL IS TO BRING IT EITHER RIGHT AT THAT 48.6 THAT WE BRIEFED YESTERDAY OR SOME LOWER NUMBER. AND IF WE DON'T FINISH THE CONSTRUCTION DELIVER THE PROJECT IN TIME. DO WE CONTINUE WITH CONSTRUCTION OR DO WE STOP? WHAT HAPPENS? WE CONTINUE WITH CONSTRUCTION AND WE NEGOTIATE WITH THE WITH THE WINGS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN JOHNSON, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON AGENDA ITEM 18. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT. SEYMOUR, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK IS NOT A PERSON. IT'S A DELIVERY METHOD. AND IT'S BEEN SPOKE OF LIKE IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL. THERE ARE SEVERAL DELIVERY METHODS CSP DESIGN BUILD, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. 3.8 IS HIGH. I'M ASKING THE CITY MANAGER THAT WHEN THEY'RE COMING TO PRESENT THESE ITEMS TO HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE LEADING, BECAUSE TO CONTINUE TO SAY, I DON'T HAVE THAT UP HERE. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT PREPARED. AND THAT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING TO ME THAT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S INTENTIONAL. I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S NOT INTENTIONAL, BUT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T LIKE. AND SO WHEN WE'RE ASKING FOR THESE INFORMATION, I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE SEYMOUR. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WAS NEVER ANSWERED FOR ME WHEN I SENT THE EMAIL. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT OFFLINE. BUT IT'S NOT A PERSON. IT'S A DELIVERY METHOD. AND THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE STATED. SO 3.8 IS KIND OF HIGH. AND I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. SO WE'LL BE SPEAKING WITH IT. I'LL SAY THAT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? AGENDA. AGENDA ITEM 18. RECORD VOTES BEEN REQUESTED BY RULES BEEN GRANTED. AS A MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. JOHNSON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. CADENA. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLAIR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY. NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. WILLIS. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO. NO. MAYOR JOHNSON. YES. WITH TEN VOTING IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED TO ABSENT. THE MOTION PASSES. MR. MAYOR, THE ITEM PASSES. MR. MAYOR. WONDERFUL. NEXT ITEM PLEASE. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR NEXT ITEM. [02:25:01] AGENDA ITEM 21. AGENDA ITEM 21. [21. 25-2282A Authorize the City Manager to (1) exercise the third of four, one-year renewal options to the facility management services contract with Bridge Steps d/b/a The Bridge, as amended, for facility management and operational services; (2) provide funding for the annual fee during year four of the contract, as amended, in an amount not to exceed $4,519,000.00 sourced from General Fund; and (3) increase the annual fee during year four of the contract, as amended, from $4,519,000.00 to an amount not to exceed $5,916,911.00, with $328,500.00 sourced from General Fund for an increase for pay-to-stay shelter beds, with $300,000.00 sourced from General Fund for an increase for the facility management services contract, and $769,411.00 sourced from the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs (“TDHCA”) Grant Fund – Total not to exceed $5,916,911.00 – Financing: General Fund ($5,147,500.00), FY 2026 TDHCA-Homeless Housing and Services Program 25-26 Fund ($676,280.00), and FY 2024 TDHCA-HHSP General Set-Aside Reallocation Fund ($93,131.00) (subject to appropriations)] AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO ONE EXERCISE THE THIRD OF FOUR ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS TO THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES CONTRACT WITH BRIDGE STEPS DBA THE BRIDGE AS AMENDED, FOR FACILITY MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONAL SERVICES TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE ANNUAL FEE DURING YEAR FOUR OF THE CONTRACT, AS AMENDED, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4,519,000 SOURCED FROM GENERAL FUND AND THREE. INCREASE THE ANNUAL FEE DURING YEAR FOUR OF THE CONTRACT, AS AMENDED, FROM $4,519,000 TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,916,911, WITH $328,000 SOURCED FROM GENERAL FUND, FOR AN INCREASE FOR PAID TO STAY SHELTER BEDS WITH $300,000 SOURCED FROM GENERAL FUND FOR AN INCREASE FOR THE FACILITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES CONTRACT, AND $769,411 SOURCED FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. TD GRANT FUND TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $5,916,911. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN, SECOND MAYOR PRO TEM. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION. THANK YOU. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES. BRING THE GOOD NEIGHBOR REQUIREMENTS TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION, AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS, INCLUDING METRICS. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. DISCUSSION. MAYOR PRO TEM. YES. THANK YOU. FIVE MINUTES. SO THIS MOTION WILL ALLOW THE DOLLARS TO FLOW INTO THE BRIDGE AND THE AND THE AGREEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD. ALL IT DOES IS ALLOWS US ADDITIONAL TIME TO WORK WITH STAFF AND COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS TO SURE UP OUR GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT. AND SO THIS DOES NOT STOP THE CONTRACT WITH THE DOLLARS FROM BEING DELIVERED. IT ONLY GIVES US ADDITIONAL TIME TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF AND OUR PARTNERS. THANK YOU. MAYOR CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MAYOR PRO TEM FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS ITEM IS THAT WE HAVE FINALLY INCREASED OUR PAY TO STAY FOR THE BRIDGE, AND THAT'S BEEN WAY TOO MANY YEARS. I THINK WE WERE STILL AT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS INITIATED FROM THE HOMELESS COMMISSION WHEN I WAS SERVING ON IT. SO SO THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, FOR DOING THAT. BUT WHAT'S MISSING IS, AGAIN, WE HAVE NO PERFORMANCE METRICS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR PRO TEM CAME TO ME AND EXPLAINED WHERE HE WAS AT ON THIS. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT HIS MOTION TO APPROVE IT, BUT WE DEFINITELY ARE GOING TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE HOUSING COMMITTEE. AND WE JUST CAN'T CONTINUE TO SPEND THIS KIND OF MONEY WITH NO PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT ARE REPORTED TO COUNCIL. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE PERFORMANCE METRICS BECAUSE THEY DO, AND THIS IS CLEARLY A GOOD OPERATOR. SO IT IS NOTHING ABOUT THE OPERATOR. IT IS NOTHING ABOUT THAT. BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DOLLARS ARE DOING THE WORK THAT ARE INTENDED. AND AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A PROBLEMATIC HOMELESS AUDIT THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, AND WE HAVE NOT PROVIDED ENOUGH OVERSIGHT. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, I GUESS I'VE GOT SOME RECEIPTS BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE BRIDGES MONTHLY REPORT THAT THEY SEND TO THE CITY EVERY SINGLE, EVERY SINGLE MONTH. AND, I MEAN, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT HOW FAR THEY DRILL DOWN INTO WHAT THEY REPORT TO US, BUT LITERALLY LISTEN TO THIS FOOD SERVICES, BARBER SERVICES, GUESTS GIVING BACK SERVICES. I MEAN, IT IS HERE, FRONT AND BACK FOR THE LAST ROLLING FIVE MONTHS, INCLUDING A YEAR TO DATE. SO I'M I'M ALL FOR THE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT AND DRILLING INTO MORE THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO KNOW ABOUT. BUT AS I LOOK AT THIS, WE'RE GETTING SOME DATA HERE, AND THEN THAT'S NOT EVEN. THEY BROUGHT ME SOME SHEETS THAT I'M. MY EYES WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO READ. IT'S TOO SMALL, THE TYPE. BUT DOCTOR WOODY IS HERE. WOULD YOU COME DOWN FOR A MOMENT? I FEEL LIKE WE'VE KIND OF SPRUNG ENOUGH SURPRISES ON YOU FOR THIS WEEK, SO WOULD LOVE TO HEAR JUST KIND OF WHAT KIND OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO ENGAGE OUR NEIGHBORS. AND CAN YOU JUST SHARE WITH US WITH RESPONSE TO THE THE MEMO? DO YOU MIND IF I BORROW THAT? IT TALKS ABOUT BRINGING THE GOOD NEIGHBOR REQUIREMENTS TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW AND DISCUSSION AND WORK WITH [02:30:06] THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS, INCLUDING METRICS. I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU ON THAT. GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE AGAIN, DOCTOR DAVID WOODY, THE THIRD PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE BRIDGE HOMELESS RECOVERY CENTER. THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT. HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR THE PAST 24 MONTHS. IT POTENTIALLY DELAYED APPROVAL OF OUR CONTRACT. 20 MONTHS AGO, AND AT THAT TIME, CITY STAFF WAS ASKED TO COMPLETE AN ASSESSMENT TO ACQUIRE INFORMATION FROM THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD, FROM THE FARMERS MARKET NEIGHBORHOOD. OUR NEIGHBORS. AND FRANKLY, ANYONE ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT INCLUDED A VIRTUAL MEETING THAT INCLUDED A FACE TO FACE MEETING. WE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF TO PREPARE A SUMMARY. THAT SUMMARY WAS FORWARDED TO HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS. THE COUNCIL'S COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW. I HAVE BEEN PREPARED WITH CITY STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THAT INFORMATION NOW FOR 20 MONTHS. SECONDLY, I AND OR MEMBERS OF MY PROFESSIONAL TEAM VISIT MONTHLY WITH THE FARMERS MARKET STAKEHOLDERS GROUP EVERY 60 DAYS WITH THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MEMBERS OF BOTH OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE REGULARLY IN CONTACT WITH ME BY CELL PHONE REGARDING ANY ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE. YES, WE WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS. TO ACQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WOULD DESCRIBE ELEMENTS OF THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT ISSUES THAT EXIST. THAT INFORMATION IS READY FOR FOLKS TO REVIEW WHEN YOU WISH. SO YOU'RE SAYING WE'VE HAD IT FOR 20 MONTHS? YES. OKAY. WELL, I'M LOOKING AT A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT, AND IT'S TALKING ABOUT INCLUDING METRICS. AND I'M JUST. HAS THIS BEEN DISCUSSED OR IS THIS WHERE THINGS BELONG? I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT WHAT COMES TO THE CITY. WE'VE GOT SOME METRICS HERE. WE GOT A LOT OF METRICS HERE. AND SO I'M JUST I'M LOOKING AT THAT. AND WHAT KIND OF DISCUSSIONS HAVE YOU HAD AROUND THAT? WE CONTINUE TO ACQUIRE THE METRICS THAT YOU SEE ON OUR MONTHLY DASHBOARD, AND WE HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE CITY METRICS THAT TALK ABOUT THE QUALITY OF ENGAGEMENTS, FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN GUIDED TO OUR CAMPUS AND ANY PHONE CALLS, COMPLAINTS, EMAILS THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED. I WANT TO SAY WITHIN THE LAST 90 DAYS, PROBABLY 120 DAYS. WE HAVE HAD ONE, MAYBE TWO ISSUES OF CONCERN THAT FOLKS HAVE COMMUNICATED TO THE BRIDGE TO OUR LEADERSHIP. OKAY. AND BASED ON OUR, FRANKLY, MY BEING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN I SEE THINGS, WE GET ON TOP OF IT. AND SO. WE ARE WORKING EXTREMELY DILIGENTLY WITH ALL PARTNERS, ESPECIALLY WITH CITY STAFF NOW WITH DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC. WITH ANYONE WHO WILL HELP US TO ADDRESS WHATEVER EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS THAT FOLKS WOULD HAVE. WELL, YOU, YOUR STAFF, YOUR YOUR VOLUNTEERS, YOUR BOARD DO YEOMAN'S [02:35:02] WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS A THIS IS A TOUGH ISSUE THAT WE GRAPPLE WITH EVERY SINGLE WEEK HERE. IS THERE ANY HESITATION AROUND THIS? I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ALREADY IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT THAT EXISTS, AND THIS IS JUST SAYING CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT, BUT IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE PRESENTED SOMETHING AND YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE FEEDBACK FROM THIS SIDE OF THE FENCE. EXACTLY. IN FACT, I WOULD TELL YOU THAT IF WE HAD IF WE HAD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WITH CITY STAFF TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION, IF THERE ARE CHALLENGES THAT ARE AVAILABLE, WE WOULD LOVE TO RESPOND. THAT'S WE'VE BEEN RESPONSIVE. WE CAN'T DO OUR WORK WITHOUT COLLABORATION. AND SO, YES, IF THERE IS ANY ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH THE SUPPORT OF CITY STAFF, WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO GET IT DONE. SO YOU DON'T HAVE HESITATION AROUND THIS LANGUAGE? NO HESITATION AT ALL. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN GRACEY. IF YOU'RE READY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON AGENDA ITEM 21. YEAH, I'LL JUST MAKE THIS QUICK. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT GOOD NEIGHBORS AND ALL OF THIS KIND OF STUFF, BUT AS A CITY, I'M JUST GOING TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE TO BEING A BETTER PARTNER. WE PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THIS, AND WE SAY WE CARE ABOUT OUR HOMELESS AND OUR UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS AND ALL OF THESE THINGS, AND YET WE PUT THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SERVING THESE PEOPLE. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE PUTTING THIS PRESSURE ON TO DO BETTER, TO BE BETTER AND ALL OF THESE KIND OF THINGS. AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US AROUND THIS HORSESHOE TO BE A BETTER PARTNER WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO SERVE THOSE THAT ARE THE LEAST OF THESE. THAT'S ALL. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. DOCTOR WOODY, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO. I DO SEE YOU AT ALL THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT. AND AND I'M A LITTLE PERPLEXED AS WELL ON WHY WE DON'T HAVE THIS AGREEMENT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SENT IN RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL TO BOTH CITY STAFF AND TO OUR ATTORNEYS. AND WAS HOPING THAT THIS WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED AND INCLUDED ON HERE. AGAIN, YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. TO ME, THIS CODIFIES THOSE AGREEMENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT VOTE OF CONFIDENCE FOR ALL OUR STAKEHOLDERS. AND AGAIN I CANNOT SAY THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S BROKEN RIGHT NOW OR SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T ADDRESSED. THIS IS JUST FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT REASSURANCE AND THAT THAT COMMITMENT IS THERE MOVING FORWARD. AND SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN SUPPORT THIS MOTION SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE WORKING ON A AGREEMENT. AND THE AGREEMENT HAS TO BE SUPPORTED BY BOTH YOU GUYS AND BY THE CITY. AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT IS GOING TO BE TOO FAR FETCHED. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE SAID THAT THEY ADVISE AGAINST, AND I'M FOLLOWING THEIR RECOMMENDATION ON THAT. AND SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO CODIFY THOSE AGREEMENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE KEEP WORKING IN THE SAME PATH THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE WHEN THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THESE, YOU GUYS ASK FOR GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR RESIDENTS ARE HEARD AND THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE TABLE. SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. MISS TOLBERT, GO AHEAD. YES. I JUST THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. AND I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN. THANK YOU, DOCTOR WOODY, FOR THE ONGOING PARTNERSHIP. AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD. MAYOR PRO TEM, I WOULD LIKE TO INSERT THAT WE WILL WORK WITH DOCTOR WOODY, AS WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE, TO ENSURE THAT THE PROVISIONS IN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT THAT MIGHT NEED A REFRESH. OR WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT ADDITIONAL WAYS THAT WE CAN TRUE UP THE WAY WE DELIVER SERVICES FROM THIS MUCH NEEDED INSTITUTION IN OUR CITY THAT WE WILL WORK WITH THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSING AND THE HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE TO GET THAT ON VERY SOON. AND THAT WAY WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD AND DOWN THE ROAD. SO I JUST DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT THIS WAS A PUNT BY CITY STAFF. I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME COORDINATION ISSUES. AND I THINK DOCTOR WOODY IS EXACTLY RIGHT, THAT THIS HAS TO BE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IN THE ROOM MORE OFTEN. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AND THANK YOU AGAIN. DOCTOR WOODY, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 21, THE MOTION BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [02:40:01] THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 22. AUTHORIZED THE FIRST OF TWO ONE [22. 25-2249A Authorize the first of two, one-year renewal options to the contract with The Salvation Army North Texas Area Command in the amount of $323,541.36, the Bridge Steps dba The Bridge in the amount of $214,073.66, and the Austin Street Center in the amount of $149,124.98, for emergency shelter services for the homeless for the period October 1, 2025 through September 30, 2026 – Total not to exceed $686,740.00 - Financing: FY 2025-26 Emergency Solutions Grant Fund (subject to annual appropriations)] YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS TO THE CONTRACT WITH THE SALVATION ARMY NORTH TEXAS AREA COMMAND IN THE AMOUNT OF $323,541.36. THE BRIDGE STEPS DBA THE BRIDGE IN THE AMOUNT OF 214,007 $73.66, AND THE AUSTIN STREET CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $149,124.98. FOR THE EMERGENCY SHELTER SERVICES FOR THE HOMELESS FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $686,740. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. IS THERE A MOTION? YES. I MOVE TO SEND THIS ITEM TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE AND BRING BACK TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL ON THE 1022 AGENDA. I ACTUALLY HEARD THE MOTION TO APPROVE FIRST THIS TIME. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED IS RECOGNIZED. WELL, THE LAST TIME I RECOGNIZED THAT, BECAUSE I HAD A PERSON IN THE QUEUE AND I SAW THAT FIRST. SO I ALWAYS GO WITH WHAT I HEAR FIRST. I HEARD A MOTION TO APPROVE IN A SECOND, AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE IT, THOUGH. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES, IF YOU'D LIKE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WILL SEE WHERE THE DISCUSSION GOES, BUT I THINK THAT THIS IS A NO BRAINER. AND I'M VERY PLEASED AT THE WORK THAT AUSTIN STREET AND THE BRIDGE DO IN OUR CITY. I WOULD LIKE TO, OF COURSE, HAVE ANY DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE THROUGH COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK THAT, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US, JUST AS WE HAVE IN THE HOW I'VE SAID FOR OTHER ITEMS, THAT WE DON'T CONFLATE OUR DUTIES TO GOVERNANCE HERE AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE POLICY AND HAVE MORE ROBUST DISCUSSIONS ON THE POLICY AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS FOR THIS RENEWAL. AND IT SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE IN THAT MANNER. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. OH, YEAH. THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO CLARIFY FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE NOT SERVED BEFORE TO KNOW I GUESS WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT THIS. AS A MATTER OF PRACTICE, WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL RECOGNIZE THE FIRST MOTION I HEAR. UNLESS SOMEONE HAS ACTUALLY PUSHED THE BUTTON AND IS SHOWING UP IN MY QUEUE BEFORE WE DO THAT. SO I KNOW YOU WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR SOME PURPOSE. SO THAT IS HOW I DO. I TRY NOT TO PLAY ANY GAMES WITH THE MOTIONS. SO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSON YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE AND BRING BACK TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL ON THE OCTOBER 22ND AGENDA. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. SO NOW THERE'S A MOTION TO DEFER ON THE FLOOR, AND YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR MOTION. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. WELL, THIS IS LIKE THE OTHER ITEMS THAT ADDRESS THE HOMELESSNESS ISSUES, WHICH IS THAT THIS HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COMMITTEE NOR THE FULL COUNCIL. WE'VE HAD NO MEASURABLE OUTCOMES PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL OR THE COMMITTEE FOR EITHER ANY OF THESE THREE OPERATORS. WE'VE HAD NO DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE WANT OUR GOALS TO BE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE THEM FOR THE COMING YEAR. WE AGAIN HAVE A PROBLEMATIC HOMELESS AUDIT TO CONSIDER. SO WITH THAT, TO DO OUR JOB AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE MUST READ THESE CONTRACTS. CONSIDER PAST PERFORMANCE. ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. CONFIRM METRICS AND ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISMS ARE IN PLACE, AND CONSIDER WHAT REPORTING REQUIREMENTS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. IT IS NOT OUR JOB TO RUBBER STAMP STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. IT IS ALSO NOT OUR JOB TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS. THAT'S MICROMANAGING AND IT'S NOT OUR PLACE. I'M NOT LOOKING TO DO THAT. WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN DOING IS SEEING THE FULL CONTENT OF WHAT IS OUR PURVIEW, AND IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DELEGATED TO DO AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR. WHY DOES IT KEEP DOING THAT? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. POINT OF INFORMATION. YES, THE MOTION TO DEFER. THE MOTION TO PASS. I THOUGHT HIS MOTION? NO, THERE'S A THERE WAS A MOTION TO DEFER BY THE MENDELSOHN. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. SORRY. NO PROBLEM. SORRY. SO, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I SEE MR. ROBY HAS JOINED US AFTER HIS BOARD MEETING THIS MORNING. AND SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT OF THIS WOULD BE. [02:45:01] COULD YOU COME DOWN AND ADDRESS US? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE READ ITEMS AND, YOU KNOW, WE MOVE YOU KNOW, WE MAY DELAY OR DEFER OR WHATEVER OR NOT APPROVE, BUT I THINK THAT WITH YOU PRESENT AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME TEAM MEMBERS HERE. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITAS OF WHAT THIS MIGHT MEAN. SO IF THIS WAS TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION AROUND PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND THAT SORT OF THING, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD BE ON THAT DELAY. BUT ALSO, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND METRICS AND THINGS, OTHERWISE WE WOULDN'T BE DOING. I MEAN, THIS IS A RENEWAL, RIGHT? THIS ISN'T A BRAND NEW CONTRACT. THIS IS A RENEWAL FOR SERVICES THAT YOU'VE BEEN PERFORMING EACH YEAR. OKAY, I'LL STOP TALKING. YOU. YOU CAN SHARE. YOU'VE GOT THE FLOOR. FIRST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR HAVING US DOWN. AND I'LL TRY TO BE VERY BRIEF INTRODUCTIONS. CHIEF PROGRAM OFFICER DUSTIN PERKINS. PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. I NOTICED THAT THE TIME IS NOT GOING, AND I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE ASK SOMEBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE TO COME SPEAK, THAT THE TIME USUALLY DOES GO. IT DOES NOT. IT DOES NOT. RIGHT. IT'S PAUSED IF THEY IF THEY'RE ANSWERING A QUESTION OF THE COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND OUR DIRECTOR OF DATA INTEGRITY DAVID STUCKER, WHO ALSO HELPS OVERSEE THE INCLEMENT WEATHER PROGRAM. SO HE'S HERE TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT METRICS ON A HIGH LEVEL. I'LL JUST GO THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE. 2016 AUSTIN STREET BEGAN ITS FIRST GOVERNMENT CONTRACT, AND I GOT THERE IN 2015. AND THIS WAS ALLOWING US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY SHELTER TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEVERE AND PERSISTENT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. IN 2020, I THINK THAT WAS STATE FUNDED, BUT IT GOES THROUGH THE CITY IN 2020. I THINK THERE WAS A APPLICATION THAT DID NOT GET SENT FROM THE CITY TO THE STATE. SO THOSE FUNDED THAT FUNDS BECAME GENERAL FUNDS AT THAT POINT IN TIME. SO EVER SINCE 2016, WE'VE BEEN KEEPING METRICS FOR THIS GRANT PROGRAM. IN 2022, AUSTIN STREET CENTER OPENED UP ITS NEW BUILDING, ADDING 100 ADDITIONAL BEDS AT NO COST TO THE CITY FOR BOTH PROGRAMMATIC AND FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF. AND SO YOU KNOW, I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE IS WE ARE ON TRACK AT THIS POINT IN TIME THIS YEAR TO HOUSE MORE PEOPLE THAN WE'VE EVER HOUSED BEFORE IN OUR HISTORY, SURPASSING 600 INDIVIDUALS. AND THAT DATA IS BACKED UP, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR HMI SYSTEM AND THROUGH OUR INTERNAL AUDITS. THESE GENERAL FUNDS, THESE ARE THE ONLY GOVERNMENTAL GENERAL FUNDS THAT WE HAVE THAT COVER OPERATIONS, WHICH MEANS THAT IT ALLOWS US TO DO EVERYTHING ELSE. SO AS AN ORGANIZATION, WITH OUR FINANCES AND ACCOUNTING, WE HAVE TO RAISE FUNDS FOR MATCH FOR THE RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THROUGH HOUSING FORWARD AND THROUGH HUD. WE HAVE TO RAISE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO COVER ALL OF OUR OTHER PROGRAMS. SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THERE'S A BIT OF A DOMINO EFFECT HERE, BECAUSE IF THESE FUNDS GET DELAYED OR GET ELIMINATED, IT DOESN'T JUST IMPACT THAT SPECIFIC. IT IMPACTS EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO BECAUSE I HAVE TO REDIRECT PRIVATE FUNDS TO COVER EMERGENCY SHELTER BECAUSE WE CAN'T LET EMERGENCY SHELTER GO. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF THESE FUNDS GET DELAYED OR GET ELIMINATED, THERE WILL BE INDIVIDUALS THAT CURRENTLY ARE IN SHELTER THAT WE WILL HAVE TO EXIT THOSE PEOPLE FROM SHELTER. WE'LL HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN THOSE BEDS. IT WILL ADD IMMEDIATELY PEOPLE TO THE STREETS. AND SO I FULLY WANT TO SAY WE ARE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR AND SUPPORT OF TRANSPARENCY AND FOR ANY CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AROUND. IS THERE ANY WAY TO STRETCH THESE FUNDS FURTHER AND TO DO ADDITIONAL WORK? BUT WE ARE PREPARED TO GO OVER THOSE METRICS INDIVIDUALLY. IF THE COUNCIL WOULD CHOOSE FOR US TO DO THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO ALL THAT YOU SAID, BUT YOUR DIRECTOR OF DATA. SO YOU HAVE A DIRECTOR OF DATA. YES. YES, THAT SOUNDS LIKE METRICS. YEAH. MY MY JOB IS TO TRACK ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. OKAY. I MEAN, I THINK THAT TELLS ME THAT WHILE I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU DO COME BEFORE THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE OVER THE NEXT YEAR SO THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH UNDERSTANDING THIS BETTER. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP US NOT ONLY WITH WORKING WITH YOU, BUT GLOBALLY ACROSS THIS ISSUE. SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION TO DELAY. BUT I THINK THIS IS CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS BE WORKING ON THIS, AND THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM YOU BASED ON ALL OF THE DATA THAT YOU DO COLLECT. SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL DO. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION BY CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST, I WANT TO WELCOME MY ACTUAL NEIGHBOR, DANIEL ROBY, TO THE HORSESHOE. AND YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THIS IS GOING TO SOUND REPETITIVE TO MY COLLEAGUES, BUT WHERE I'M COMING OUT ON THIS IS. YES, WE NEED METRICS. SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN GET METRICS. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE PERSON WITH THE METRICS, BUT WE DO NEED TO ARTICULATE THEM. [02:50:06] AND WE DO NEED TO WORK WITH YOU ALL SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE WHAT'S HAPPENING AND TWEAK IT, YOU KNOW, CHANGE IT, PERHAPS EVEN PROVIDE MORE FUNDING. IF WE FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY SAW SOME PROGRESS IN, BUT WE NEED THOSE METRICS AND THAT CONVERSATION. AND SO I'M ALL FOR THAT. WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THIS MORNING, AND I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER UNDERSTANDS THE CRITICAL NATURE OF GETTING THAT DONE AT A MUCH EARLIER POINT IN THE YEAR SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON BOARD BY THE TIME WE GET TO THIS MEETING, WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD, RIGHT? SO BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE ANY GAP IN SERVICES, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT TO THIS MOTION, BUT I FULLY SUPPORT THE CONCERNS BEHIND IT THAT WE DO NEED TO TO REACH THIS AGREEMENT AND COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT OUR PERFORMANCE METRICS ARE. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS BLAIR, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. AGENDA ITEM 22. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND ALL MY MY COLLEAGUES, FOR WHAT MAY BE ELEMENTARY TO YOU. BEING A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER IS NOT FOR ME. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT METRICS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROCESS. AS A POLICY MAKER, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THERE ARE METRICS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE CONTRACTS, THAT GOES TO STAFF. AM I RIGHT? CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS. THAT IS CORRECT. THE METRICS DO EXIST AND WE REVIEW THEM ON A MONTHLY BASIS. AND WE ALSO HAVE SITE VISITS REGULARLY TO ALL OF OUR SUBCONTRACTORS. SO AS A MEMBER, AS A MEMBER OF THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS COMMITTEE, I DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND VISIT ANY OF THESE SITES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND LOOK AT THE METRICS. AM I IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND IF I COULD JUST ALSO JUMP IN AS PART OF THE CONTRACTUAL ENVIRONMENT IN GENERAL, WE DO HAVE CONTRACT COMPLIANCE PROCESSES IN PLACE. THAT'S HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT DATA EVERY MONTH, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE CONTRACTS OR OTHERS, THAT'S A PART OF THE NORMAL BUSINESS. WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT AND PROVIDING IF THERE ARE EFFORTS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE TO, RESOLVE ANY CONTRACT. COMPLIANCE MATTERS. WE'RE DOING THAT AS STAFF. BUT I DO SUPPORT THAT. COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE THOSE METRICS ELEVATED IN A WAY THAT WHERE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM. BUT THE CONTRACT COMPLIANCE PROCESS IS A PART OF WHAT WE DO WITH ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS. AND OFTEN THAT'S ABOUT THE METRICS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE. THE GOALS THAT WE SHOULD BE ACHIEVING AS IT RELATES TO THOSE CONTRACTUAL PROVISIONS. AND HAVING THIS, THIS, THIS ITEM GO TO THE THE THE DESIRE TO HAVE THIS ITEM TO GO BACK TO COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT. WE WOULD BE ONLY ABLE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE POLICY, ANY POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS OR CHANGES BACK TO THIS BODY BASED ON WHAT THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE, THE METRICS WE HAVE AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS A BODY. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? YES. AND WHEN AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED POLICY. SO THE CONTRACTS THAT YOU HAVE, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HERE SHORTLY. IT'S THE POLICY IS ARE WE GOING TO PROVIDE SERVICES AS IT RELATES TO THE NEEDS AND THE CONCERNS OF OUR HOMELESS, OUR UNSHELTERED RESIDENTS? THESE CONTRACTS HELP US DELIVER THOSE SERVICES. SO FROM A CONTRACTUAL STANDPOINT AND FROM A SERVICE DELIVERY STANDPOINT, WE WOULD BE DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE FROM A POLICY PIECE. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD WANT US TO ADD OR EVEN TAKE AWAY. AND SO AGAIN, THESE CONTRACTS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU HAVE BEEN VETTED BY STAFF. THESE ARE CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE. THEY'RE NOT BRAND NEW. THESE OFTEN ARE RENEWALS. THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO TRUE UP THE FUNDING FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE FUNDING IS DETERMINED BY WHETHER OR NOT IF IT'S ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET. SO IF THE BUDGET CHANGES, THEN THE FUNDING THAT WOULD GO FORWARD FOR THESE CONTRACTS WOULD CHANGE AS WELL. SO THIS IS JUST THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH FOR THEN MOVING THOSE CONTRACTS FORWARD IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. SO WHILE I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT WE ARE APPROVING AND NOT APPROVING AND WHAT IS BEING LOOKED AT, AND IF THERE IS DATA THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN ORDER TO MAKE A VERY WELL EDUCATED DECISION, AND THAT IT SHOULDN'T POSSIBLY GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR A DIFFERENT VIEW, [02:55:03] I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF DENYING SERVICES WHILE WE DO THAT. IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, THEN I WOULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT AS A BODY, ALL OF US THAT WE KNOW WHEN CONTRACTS ARE DUE, WE BE IN. IF THEY ARE A COMMITTEE ITEM THAT WE KNOW BEFORE A CONTRACT IS DUE THAT WE LOOK AT THOSE CONTRACTS, LOOK AT WHAT IT IS WE'RE LOOKING FOR, MAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT WE DO NOT PUT OUR PEOPLE, OUR, OUR, THE CITIZENS, THE OUR VOTERS OR ANYBODY IN A POSITION THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DENY THEM SERVICES BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS INFORMATION TOO LATE IN THE PROCESS. IF WE HAVE A PROCESS AND WE WE KNOW THE DATE AS AS THOSE THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THIS CITY, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD KNOW TO LOOK AT THIS WELL IN ADVANCE TO GET THE IF WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES, WE NEED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEN WE CAN DO IT BEFORE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AT THE 12TH HOUR. THIS IS NOT EVEN THE 11TH HOUR. THIS IS THE 12TH HOUR. SO I CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION TO FOREGO SERVICES TO ANYBODY WHILE WE DO THIS. I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD DO THIS IN ADVANCE. THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON YOUR MOTION. THANK YOU. I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT AS A PARLIAMENTARY MATTER, I COULD HAVE HELD ALL OF THESE ITEMS. THEY WERE NOT BRIEFED TO THE COMMITTEE. THEY WERE NOT BRIEFED TO COUNSEL. AND I COULD HAVE JUST UNILATERALLY DONE THAT. AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON IT WOULD BE ON THE NEXT AGENDA. BUT I DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE I DO KNOW THE URGENCY OF FUNDING IN HOMELESSNESS LIVED. IT HAD TO MAKE PAYROLL. SO THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC REASON I DIDN'T DO IT. IT'S CERTAINLY NOT AN ATTACK ON ANY OF THE PROVIDERS, MANY OF WHICH I AM FRIENDS WITH AND TALK WITH PRETTY REGULARLY. BUT IT IS MOST CERTAINLY A A VERY IMPORTANT POINT ABOUT THIS. COUNCIL IS GOING TO APPROVE CONTRACTS WHERE WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THESE METRICS. WE'VE HAD AN ENTIRE YEAR TO SEE THEM. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEM. THAT'S JUST A FACT. WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. THE METRICS THAT WE SEE ARE VERY GENERALIZED. WE'VE NOT SET GOALS. WE'VE NOT SEEN IF IT'S MET THE PERFORMANCE THAT WE'VE EXPECTED. WHEN WE HEAR THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT, AND IT IS SEPTEMBER 24TH FOR A CONTRACT THAT GOES INTO EFFECT OCTOBER 1ST, THAT'S A PROBLEM. AND JUST RUBBER STAMPING WHAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING IS NOT WHAT OUR JOB IS. OUR JOB IS TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS. IT IS TO READ THE MATERIAL. IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE METRICS ALIGN WITH WHAT OUR POLICY GOALS ARE. AND SO THAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING PULLED THESE ITEMS, OBVIOUSLY, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT I CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS ISSUE. AND BUT I ALSO CARE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THE OVERSIGHT THAT'S NECESSARY. ALL OF THESE ITEMS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED IN JUNE, IF NOT IN MAY, SO THAT WE CAN ALIGN THESE ITEMS. SO I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO STOP THERE. I SAID AT THE BEGINNING I WAS GOING TO KEEP GOING OVER ALL THE SAME INFORMATION FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE ITEMS. THE ISSUE IS THE SAME. IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT WE'RE FUNDING HOMELESSNESS. IT'S NOT WHO THE PROVIDERS ARE. IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT HAVE WE SET ANY KIND OF PERFORMANCE GOALS? HAVE WE VERIFIED THEM? DO THEY ALIGN WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO? THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION BY CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THAT MY COLLEAGUE HAS SAID, BUT I THINK YOU WE NEED TO ADD THE OTHER PIECE ONTO THIS, WHICH IS IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US AND INCUMBENT UPON CITY STAFF TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO US IN MAY OR JUNE, OR WHENEVER WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW IT. WE PUNISHING OUR PARTNERS BY DRAGGING THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS TODAY. IS IS IS REALLY JUST UNFAIR TO THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE I'VE ALSO HEARD THIS AUDIT THAT'S THAT'S A PROBLEMATIC AUDIT THAT'S BEEN WEAPONIZED UP HERE. AND TO BE CLEAR, THE AUDIT IS WITH INTERNAL CITY STAFF ISSUES, IT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF OUR PARTNERS. SO THE ISSUE IS HOUSEKEEPING AND CLEANING UP THAT WE NEED TO DO HERE. NOT HOLDING UP THESE ITEMS ANY FURTHER. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GET THESE ALL MOVED OUT AND NOT LET ANY SERVICES LAPSE. [03:00:04] SO THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY ON THAT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER OR RECOMMIT OR WHATEVER TECHNICALLY IS? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE NAYS HAVE IT. THE MOTION FAILS. WE'RE BACK TO AGENDA ITEM 22. ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 22? I ONLY SEE DISTRICT SEVEN HAVING SPOKEN ON IT. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 23. AUTHORIZED THE FIRST OF [23. 25-2248A Authorize the first of two, one-year renewal options to the service contract with Catholic Charities of Dallas, Inc. for supportive services for seniors for the Office of Homeless Solution for the period October 1, 2025 through September 30, 2026 – Not to exceed $250,000.00 – Financing: General Fund (subject to appropriations)] TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS TO THE SERVICE. CONTRACT WITH CATHOLIC CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF DALLAS, INC. FOR SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR SENIORS FOR THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTION FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, NOT TO EXCEED $250,000. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN MOTION TO APPROVE. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 24. AUTHORIZED THE SECOND [24. 25-1911A Authorize the second of two, one-year renewal options to the service contract with Austin Street Center to provide access to homeless recovery services for the Office of Homeless Solutions for the period October 1, 2025 through September 30, 2026, not to exceed $575,000.00 - Financing: General Fund (subject to annual appropriations)] OF TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS TO THE SERVICE CONTRACT WITH AUSTIN STREET CENTER. TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO HOMELESS RECOVERY SERVICES FOR THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTION SOLUTIONS FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2026, NOT TO EXCEED $575,000. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN. OH, I ACTUALLY THINK BAZALDUA IS IN FRONT OF ME. NO, I THINK HE JUST DIDN'T TURN IT OFF. OKAY. I'M SORRY. THIS IS, OF COURSE, THE SAME EXACT ITEM, SAME ISSUES. AND FOR THE SAME REASON, THIS REALLY SHOULD NOT GO FORWARD WITHOUT METRICS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ITEM 24? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 25. [25. 25-2609A Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 1 to exercise the first of two, one-year renewal options to the service contract, for homeless diversion services for persons experiencing homelessness for the Office of Homeless Solutions with Harmony Community Development Corporation in the amount of $65,000.00, with Catholic Charities of Dallas, Inc. in the amount of $120,000.00 and First Presbyterian Church of Dallas, Texas dba The Stewpot in the amount of $70,000.00, for the period of October 1, 2025 to September 30, 2026 – Total amount not to exceed $255,000.00 – Financing: General Fund (subject to annual appropriations)] AUTHORIZE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER ONE TO EXERCISE THE FIRST OF TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS TO THE SERVICE CONTRACT FOR HOMELESS DIVERSION SERVICES FOR PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. FOR THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS WITH HARMONY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, IN THE AMOUNT OF $65,000 WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF DALLAS, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $120,000, AND FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF DALLAS, TEXAS, DBA THE STEWPOT IN THE AMOUNT OF $70,000 FOR THE PERIOD OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $255,000 U. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. BUT YOU DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. BRENDA SNITZER WILL BE VIRTUAL. MISS. OKAY. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HEARING FROM ME. I AM BRENDA SNITZER, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE STEWPOT, A MINISTRY OF FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF DALLAS. AND THE WORK WE DO ON THIS CONTRACT IS NOT JUST FOR OUR DISTRICT, WHICH IS DISTRICT SEVEN, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS. THE FUNDING YOU'VE GIVEN US, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PAST DOLLARS. WE'VE BEEN SERVING THE CITY FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND HELPING OUR NEIGHBORS OBTAIN THEIR IDS, FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS, WE HAVE BUILT PARTNERSHIPS TO MAKE OUR ID RECOVERY SYSTEM THE LARGEST AND MOST EFFICIENT IN OUR AREA. BECAUSE OF THIS LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE, WE ARE ON THE GO TO FOR ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION AND TO MAKE THE CONTINUUM AND THE HOMELESS HOMELESS SERVICES STRATEGY FOR GETTING FOLKS OUT OF SHELTER AND INTO HOUSING, AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE BEDS AVAILABLE FOR OTHERS. THAT THE THE DD OR THE POLICE NEED TO BRING FOLKS TO SHELTER. OUR NEIGHBORS NEED AN ID TO GET A JOB, HOUSING AND GENERALLY FUNCTION IN SOCIETY WHERE IDS ARE REQUIRED FOR EVERYTHING. LAST YEAR, WE PROVIDED 4479 VITAL DOCUMENTS TO NEIGHBORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE THIS CRITICAL SERVICE, WHICH HELPS DIVERT NEIGHBORS FROM HOMELESSNESS AND BACK INTO HOUSING QUICKLY, [03:05:04] IS DEPENDENT ON THE SUPPORT FROM THIS COUNCIL. AND SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THIS FUNDING. AND WE ALSO APPRECIATE NOT HAVING A DELAY IN FUNDING BECAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP THIS FUNDING, THIS SERVICE GOING. EVERY MONTH. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING, WE DON'T HAVE THE IDS THAT WE CAN GET DONE. AND THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TO GO WITHOUT THIS SERVICE. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS. IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR CONTINUUM OF HOMELESS SERVICES. AND I AM OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? MR. BAZALDUA, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN? YES, FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. SO, AGAIN, COULD HAVE AUTOMATICALLY REMANDED THIS TO OUR NEXT VOTING AGENDA, BUT I DIDN'T BECAUSE AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, BRENDA, I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE HERE. YOU DO PROVIDE EXTREMELY ESSENTIAL SERVICE, ESPECIALLY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS OR WHO ARE MISSING DOCUMENTATION THAT IS NECESSARY ESPECIALLY TO QUALIFY FOR VARIOUS GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS. I LOVED HEARING 4479 DOCUMENTS. I THINK THE LAST TIME I HEARD THE NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAD SERVED IN A YEAR WAS AT YOUR LUNCHEON WAS ON, THE SOUP'S ON, BUT I'M NOT HEARING IT AT CITY COUNCIL, AND I'M NOT SEEING THOSE PERFORMANCE METRICS. I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THEM. I'M SAYING WE ARE NOT RECEIVING THEM, AND WE ARE VOTING ON CONTRACTS WITHOUT THAT KIND OF DATA. SO THAT IS AGAIN WHY I PULLED THIS ITEM AS WELL AS THE OTHERS. AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 25? MR. BAZALDUA OKAY. ANYONE. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 26. AUTHORIZE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER [26. 25-1910A Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 1 to exercise the first of two, one-year renewal options with Bridge Steps dba The Bridge to the service contract for immediate housing solutions, including the assistance of homeless persons by providing rental assistance in conjunction with supportive services through the Rapid Rehousing Program at the Bridge Homeless Recovery Center for the Office of Homeless Solutions, approved as to form by the City Attorney, for the period October 1, 2025 through September 30, 2026 - Not to exceed $125,899.00 - Financing: FY 2025-26 Emergency Solutions Grant Fund (subject to annual appropriations)] ONE TO EXERCISE THE FIRST OF TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS WITH BRIDGE STEPS DBA THE BRIDGE TO THE SERVICE CONTRACT FOR IMMEDIATE HOUSING SOLUTIONS, INCLUDING THE ASSISTANCE OF HOMELESS PERSONS, BY PROVIDING RENTAL ASSISTANCE IN CONJUNCTION WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THROUGH THE RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM AT THE BRIDGE HOMELESS RECOVERY CENTER FOR THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS. APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, NOT TO EXCEED $125,899. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN MR. MAYOR MR. BAZALDUA. WE HAVE A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? MR. BAZALDUA AND DISCUSSION. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN. YES. RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. YES. CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU TELL US HOW MUCH IS LEFT IN THE MASTER LEASING PROGRAM? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT LET ME SEE IF STAFF HAS THAT READILY AVAILABLE. I'D BE HAPPY TO ACCEPT AN ESTIMATE IF THEY WOULD PREFER. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER. CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS. I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER. WE CAN GET ONE FOR YOU. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT VERY MUCH OF IT HAS BEEN UTILIZED. WHICH WAS, AGAIN, THE POINT. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FUND USED AS NEEDED BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE PENSION FUND. SO WE WERE HOPING WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO USE THAT MUCH OF IT. I'M SORRY. DID YOU SAY IT'S PART OF A PENSION FUND? LET ME JUMP IN IF I CAN. THE DOLLARS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT A MASTER LEASE PROGRAM OR DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION UNDER THE TITLE PENSION STABILIZATION FUND. AND SO MISS CROSSLEY IS CORRECT. THE FUNDING THAT WAS THEN ALLOCATED, I THINK IT WAS. WAS IT 2 MILLION OR 3 MILLION? SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE? YES, 3 MILLION WAS TO BE USED AS NECESSARY. BUT THE FUND THAT WAS ESTABLISHED WAS FOR PENSION STABILIZATION. SO SHE IS CORRECT THAT $14 MILLION WAS IN A PROPOSED BUDGET. IT WAS NEVER AUTHORIZED BY ANYBODY TO BE CALLED THAT. IT WAS NOT FUNDED WITH THE $14 MILLION THAT WAS MEANT TO BE THE SLUSH FUND. THAT NEVER HAPPENED THAT WAY. IT WAS USED FOR FIRE TRUCKS. IT WAS USED FOR ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THE MANAGER HIMSELF REMOVED MORE THAN HALF THOSE DOLLARS FOR OTHER USES. I CAN'T DEBATE THAT. COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN THAT WAS NOT ANYTHING THAT WAS DONE BY MYSELF OR THIS TEAM. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE PENSION DOLLARS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUND WAS LABELED, AND THAT WAS THE LABEL OF THE FUND THAT WAS UTILIZED FOR THE MASTER LEASE PROGRAM. [03:10:09] OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT FUND WAS NEVER AUTHORIZED BY THIS BODY TO BE A PENSION FUND. IT WAS PROPOSED BY A MANAGER AND NOT ACCEPTED AND REDIRECTED TO MANY OTHER USES. IN THIS CASE, 3 MILLION WAS PUT TOWARDS A MASTER LEASE PROGRAM, WHICH WAS LITERALLY CALLED ON THE TITLE PAGE BY THE CITY ATTORNEY RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM, AND THE DOLLARS ARE STILL SITTING THERE. AND INSTEAD, WE SIT HERE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROGRAM FOR THE BRIDGE TO DO RAPID REHOUSING. AND THE SOURCE OF FUNDS IS ESG. AND AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA BEHIND IT ON PERFORMANCE METRICS. WE HAVEN'T SET GOALS. AND IN THIS CASE, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO AUTHORIZE IT, BECAUSE IF THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE. WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT'S FUNDED AND HAS BEEN FUNDED, I BELIEVE, FOR TWO YEARS SITTING THERE. AND SO THIS ONE I'M MOVING TO DELAY TO GO TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND COME BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 22ND. IS THERE A SECOND? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. IT FAILS FOR WANT OF A SECOND. WE'RE STILL ON AGENDA ITEM 26. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? AGENDA ITEM 26? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 52. AGENDA ITEM 52. AUTHORIZED SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER ONE TO THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH GRESHAM SMITH FOR ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR [52. 25-2666A Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 1 to the professional engineering services contract with Gresham Smith for additional engineering services for Phase I of the Jefferson Boulevard Viaduct Modification and Realignment project to support the demolition of a portion of the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas (KBHCCD) over Lamar Street and the demolition of the Jefferson Boulevard Viaduct/South Market Street bridge, including associated work with the KBHCCD – Not to exceed $352,916.00, from $3,356,179.88 to $3,709,095.88 – Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund] PHASE ONE OF THE JEFFERSON BOULEVARD VIADUCT MODIFICATION AND REALIGNMENT PROJECT TO SUPPORT THE DEMOLITION OF A PORTION OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS, KB OVER LAMAR STREET, AND THE DEMOLITION OF THE JEFFERSON BOULEVARD VIADUCT SOUTH MARKET STREET BRIDGE, INCLUDING ASSOCIATED WORK WITH THE KB, NOT TO EXCEED $352,916 FROM $3,356,179.88 TO $3,709,095.88. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. THE AYES HAVE IT. NOTE THE OBJECTION OR THE OPPOSITION. AND NEXT ITEM, PLEASE. AGENDA ITEM 70. AGENDA ITEM 70 IS [70. 25-2594A A resolution to formally terminate its sister city agreements with Saratov, Russia and Tianjin, China in compliance with House Bill 128 – Financing: No cost consideration to the City] A RESOLUTION TO FORMALLY TERMINATE ITS SISTER CITY AGREEMENTS WITH SARATOV, RUSSIA AND TIANJIN, CHINA IN COMPLIANCE WITH HOUSE BILL 128. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRWOMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, I'D LIKE TO RAISE A CONCERN ABOUT THE NUMBER OF SISTER CITY RELATIONSHIPS THE CITY OF DALLAS IS CURRENTLY MAINTAINING. AFTER THIS ACTION, DALLAS WILL STILL HAVE NINE SISTER CITIES, BUT WITH SO MANY, THE IMPACT IS DILUTED, THE COSTS ADD UP, AND THE OUTCOMES AREN'T CLEAR. I'D LIKE TO ASK THE GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE TO PLEASE REVIEW THIS PROGRAM, SET CRITERIA FOR SUCCESS, AND DETERMINE IF ALL THE PARTNERSHIPS ARE TRULY NECESSARY. DALLAS SHOULD BE A SHOULD BE GLOBALLY CONNECTED, BUT ALSO LOCALLY ACCOUNTABLE. IF WE EXPECT OUR RESIDENTS TO SEE THE VALUE IN PROGRAMS LIKE THIS, WE MUST ENSURE THEY ARE EFFICIENT, EFFECTIVE AND TRULY ALIGNED WITH THE CITY'S PRIORITIES. HERE ARE THE ISSUES WITH THIS MANY PARTNERSHIPS. IT'S DIFFICULT TO KEEP ANY OF THEM TRULY ACTIVE OR MEANINGFUL INSTEAD OF DEEP PRODUCTIVE TIES. WE END UP WITH CEREMONIAL RELATIONSHIPS. MANAGING MULTIPLE AGREEMENTS, DELEGATIONS, EVENTS, AND ANNIVERSARIES TAKES STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES THAT COULD BE FOCUSED ON HIGHER PRIORITY CITY BUSINESS. I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO FULL TIME STAFFERS THAT ADDRESS INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS. THIS SEEMS OUTSIZED FOR THE IMPACT WE RECEIVE. TOO OFTEN, THE RELATIONSHIPS LEAN MORE TOWARDS PAGEANTRY THAN MEASURABLE RESULTS, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO POINT TO OUTCOMES THAT JUSTIFY THE INVESTMENT. WITH SO MANY RELATIONSHIPS, WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR STRATEGY FOR WHICH PARTNERSHIPS MATTER MOST AND WHY? MEANWHILE, RESIDENTS EXPECT US TO FOCUS ON CORE NEEDS, PUBLIC SAFETY, INFRASTRUCTURE AND AFFORDABILITY THAT ARE MUCH CLOSER TO HOME. [03:15:09] CULTURAL TIES AND GOODWILL ARE WORTHWHILE, BUT THE QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED THIS MANY? WOULD DALLAS BE BETTER SERVED BY CONCENTRATING ON 2 OR 3 STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIPS, WHERE WE CAN MEASURE OUTCOMES, AND TREATING THE OTHERS AS SIMPLY HONORARY? SO WITH THAT, I DO ASK THAT WE CONSIDER THIS IN COMMITTEE AND BRING RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL ABOUT HOW TO ADDRESS THIS PROGRAM. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES WE'RE ON AGENDA ITEM 70. I SUPPORT THIS MOTION, BUT I AM ALSO COGNIZANT OF THE ISSUES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN HAS JUST RAISED, AND I WOULD CONCUR THAT THIS IS A TOPIC THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE EFFICIENCY COMMITTEE TO TAKE UP AT A NEAR FUTURE HEARING. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 70. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR PULLED ITEMS. THE NEXT ITEMS WILL BE ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. LET ME CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY REALLY BRIEFLY ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION. THEN I'LL BE RIGHT BACK. SO STAND AT EASE FOR TWO MINUTES. ALL RIGHT, MEMBERS, I'M TOLD THERE'S NO NEED FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO RECESS UNTIL 130 AND COME BACK FOR THE REMAINDER OF OUR MEETING. SO WE STAND AT RECESS UNTIL 130. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT'S 2:09 P.M., AND THIS MEETING OF DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IS NOW BACK IN REGULAR SESSION. MADAM SECRETARY, WHERE DO WE LEAVE OFF? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. OKAY, LET'S. LET'S GO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AGENDA ITEM 71 I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE HAS BEEN DEFERRED TO TO YOUR OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH SEVEN SECTION 7.11 OF YOUR CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE. THEREFORE, IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED TODAY. AT THIS MEETING, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO AGENDA ITEM 72. AGENDA ITEM 72, AUTHORIZE AMENDMENT OF THE 2025 CITY COUNCIL CALENDAR TO CHANGE COMMITTEE NAMES OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE [72. 25-2697A Authorize amendment of the 2025 City Council Calendar to change committee names of the Committee on Government Performance and Financial Management to the Committee on Finance and name of the Committee on Workforce, Education, and Equity to the Committee on Government Efficiency for the months September through December – Financing: No cost consideration to the City] AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT. TO THE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE AND NAME OF THE COMMITTEE ON WORKFORCE, EDUCATION AND EQUITY. TO THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY FOR THE MONTHS SEPTEMBER THROUGH DECEMBER. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? TO SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 723. [73. 25-2399A Authorize the City’s contracted broker of record, Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc. to purchase insurance policies for commercial property, boiler and machinery and loss control, terrorism, cyber liability, fine arts, crime, aviation, flood, media professional liability, general liability, and other lines of coverage as needed for the period October 1, 2025 to September 30, 2026 - Not to exceed $15,261,509.25 - Financing: Risk Management Fund (subject to annual appropriations) (Part 1 of 2)] AUTHORIZE THE CITY'S CONTRACTED BROKER OF RECORD, MARSH AND MCLENNAN COMPANIES, INC., TO PURCHASE INSURANCE POLICIES FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, BOILER AND MACHINERY AND LOSS CONTROL, TERRORISM, CYBER LIABILITY, FINE ARTS, CRIME, AVIATION, FLOOD MEDIA, PROFESSIONAL LIABILITY, GENERAL LIABILITY, AND OTHER LINES OF COVERAGE AS NEEDED FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, NOT TO EXCEED $15,261,509.25. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 73. THANK YOU. QUESTION FOR STAFF. WHO WOULD THAT BE? A STAFF IN PARTICULAR YOU'RE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM. CHAIRMAN. RIDLEY. LOST. LOST. RISK MANAGEMENT, I GUESS. YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANYONE MOVING JUST YET, SO. WELL, PERHAPS THE CITY ATTORNEY COULD HELP. I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE CITY WAS LARGELY SELF-INSURED. DO YOU KNOW WHAT RISKS WE INSURE AGAINST IN WHICH WE SELF-INSURE. I DO NOT. THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A QUESTION FOR RISK MANAGEMENT. CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THIS? [03:20:04] I'M LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IF I CAN GET MORE OF A DETAILED ANSWER FROM THE TEAM. I'M LOOKING AROUND AND I DON'T. SHE'S ON HER WAY. SO OUR DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF RISK MANAGEMENT SHOULD BE HERE SHORTLY. I DON'T THINK I SEE OUR CFO AS WELL. PLEASE FORGIVE US. GIVE US JUST A MINUTE. COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY, DO YOU WANT TO WANT US TO HOLD ITEM 73 AND MOVE ON TO THE AGENDA AND COME BACK TO IT? IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO US MOVING ON THROUGH THE AGENDA AND COMING BACK TO THIS ONE? OKAY. NO OBJECTION. SO WE'LL GO ON, MADAM SECRETARY. WE'LL JUST HOLD THAT ONE AND FOR LATER IN THE MEETING. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO AGENDA ITEM 74. [74. 25-2669A Authorize the second step of acquisition for condemnation by eminent domain to acquire eleven parcels for a total of approximately 78,483 square feet of land (list attached to the Agenda Information Sheet) located near the intersection of Pontiac Street and Cadillac Drive for the Cadillac Heights Phase II Project - Not to exceed $1,650,000.00 ($1,625,000.00, plus closing costs and title expenses not to exceed $25,000.00) - Financing: Land Acquisition in Cadillac Heights Fund (2006 General Obligation Bond Funds)] AGENDA ITEM 74. AUTHORIZE THE SECOND STEP OF ACQUISITION FOR CONDEMNATION BY EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE 11 PARCELS, FOR A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 78,483FT² OF LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF PONTIAC STREET AND CADILLAC DRIVE FOR THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS PHASE TWO PROJECT, NOT TO EXCEED $1,650,000. THIS ITEM WILL REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE AS IT IS AN EMINENT DOMAIN ITEM. MR. MAYOR, CHAIRMAN JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES. MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. IT IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. THIS SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO CONTINUE THE DEVELOPMENT OF, AND IMPLEMENT A LONG OVERDUE VISION FOR THIS AREA THAT WILL ANCHOR AND SUPPORT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THIS VISION SHOULD INCLUDE INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY IN DECISION MAKING PROCESS, AND EFFECTIVELY COMMUNICATING AND ENGAGING WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS. THE WORK OF PROTECTING THIS AREA FROM FLOODING AND INCOMPATIBLE LAND USE TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY IS OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO ME AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER. I LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH THE CITY MANAGER, MISS TOLBERT, AND THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS COMMUNITY AS WE TRANSFORM A COLLABORATIVE VISION INTO REAL OUTCOMES THAT IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR JOHNSON. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THE LAST BRIEFING I WAS PART OF THAT DEALT WITH THIS AREA WAS IN GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, AND THERE SEEMED TO BE TWO THINGS RELATED TO THIS. ONE IS THAT CITY MANAGER YOU HAD PROCLAIMED THAT WE WOULD STOP ALL PURCHASES OF PROPERTY UNTIL WE HAD A PROPER CHECKLIST OF PROCESSES THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH AND THINGS WE WOULD CONSIDER BEFORE WE DID THAT, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT COME THROUGH YET. AND NUMBER TWO, THERE SEEM TO BE SOME CONFUSION IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT WHAT WOULD EXACTLY GO THERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO EMINENT DOMAIN. AND IT SEEMS TO BE UNCLEAR WHAT THIS LAND WILL BECOME. IS THAT A QUESTION FOR ME? WELL, AM I CORRECT? I MEAN, IS THERE A CLARITY NOW? WAS IT BRIEFED SOMEWHERE THAT I AM NOT A COMMITTEE MEMBER OF THE LAST BRIEFING IN GPM? IT WAS UNKNOWN WHAT IT WOULD BE, WHETHER IT WOULD THE SERVICE CENTER WOULD MOVE THERE OR WHETHER SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE POLICE ACADEMY ONCE BEING THERE. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE THINK IT WOULD NOT BE GREAT TO HAVE GARBAGE TRUCKS THERE. I MEAN, THERE'S EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE WE ENDED THAT MEETING WITH UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT THE USE OF THE LAND WOULD BE, PART OF IT BEING IN THE FLOODPLAIN. AND I'M VERY CAUTIOUS TO PROCEED WITH EMINENT DOMAIN WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR VISION OF WHAT IT WILL BECOME. NUMBER ONE. AND NUMBER TWO, THE MEMO YOU SENT IN RESPONSE TO A NUMBER OF PROBLEMATIC PURCHASES OF REAL ESTATE INDICATED WE WOULD PAUSE ANY ADDITIONAL PURCHASE UNTIL WE HAD POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND A CHECKLIST IN PLACE TO ENSURE WE DID NOT REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKES. THAT'S A QUESTION FOR ME. YEP. SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE A CHECKLIST? DO WE HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE? AND IF SO, HAVE THEY BEEN SHOWN TO THE COUNCIL. SO WE CAN HAVE CONFIDENCE IN WHAT WE'RE PURCHASING. HAS GONE THROUGH PROPER VETTING. NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO. IS THERE A PLAN FOR THIS LAND THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS WHEN WE'RE TAKING PEOPLE'S LAND? OKAY. SO LET ME START WITH WHEN WE COMMUNICATED BACK TO THE COUNCIL EARLIER IN, I THINK IT WAS DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL AND WE TALKED ABOUT ACQUISITIONS, WE ACTUALLY PUT IN THE DOCUMENT AND I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. SO MR. GIBSON WILL PROBABLY READ IT IF HE HAS IT. WE TALKED ABOUT ANY EXISTING PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THAT WERE ALREADY UNDERWAY, [03:25:06] THAT THOSE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD CONTINUE. THIS IS AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN A PRIOR BOND PROGRAM WHERE THAT AREA AND THE PURCHASE OF THAT ADDITIONAL THOSE PARCELS WAS PART OF A BIGGER STRATEGY. THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ON, AND I THINK WE HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THOSE REMAINING PARCELS, THE OWNERS, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD DO THE ACQUISITION. WE HAVE NOT SAID THAT WE'RE DEPARTING FROM ANY OF THE PLANS, BUT WE WANTED TO WORK WITH AND WE KNOW OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBER WHO REPRESENTS THAT DISTRICT, AND HE'S BEEN ENGAGED WITH US OVER THE LAST I KNOW SINCE HE'S BEEN ON THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE PLANS. THERE'S A RE-ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT WE'VE LAID OUT THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER IS WORKING WITH US ON TO TRUE UP WHAT WILL GO THERE AND WHAT WE KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THAT DISTRICT WILL DEFINITELY WANT TO SUPPORT. BUT WE'VE NOT SAID THAT WE'VE DEPARTED FROM ANY OF THE PLANS. THERE WERE A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND SERVICE CENTER, POLICE ACADEMY, WHICH WE RULED OUT, AS YOU KNOW, THAT THE ACADEMY WOULD NOT GO THERE, BUT WE NEVER SAID THAT WE WOULD NOT CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT AREA FOR A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. MR. GIBSON, PLEASE JUMP IN AND ADD ANYTHING THAT I THAT I FAILED TO MENTION. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. DONZELL GIBSON, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THE CITY MANAGER HIT IT ON THE HEAD, BUT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS THAT I HEARD. I THE FIRST QUESTION WAS, DO WE HAVE THE CHECKLIST? NO, WE DO NOT. IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE WORKS. COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONTRACT BACK IN JUNE FOR FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT TO WORK WITH CBRE ON THAT CHECKLIST, AND WE'LL BE BRINGING INFORMATION RELATED TO THAT WORK TO YOU HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THE NEXT QUESTION WAS, WAS THIS A PIECE OF PROPERTY, OR WAS THIS A SERIES OF PROPERTIES THAT WERE NOT ALLOWED? OR SHOULD THE CITY MANAGER MADE A COMMENT IN A MEMORANDUM OUT TO COUNCIL WAS, WERE WE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO PURCHASE PROPERTIES LIKE THESE? SHE IS CORRECT. THIS WAS AN EXCEPTION THAT WAS LAID OUT IN THAT MEMORANDUM THAT DESCRIBED ANY BOND PROGRAMS OR ANY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED PROJECTS THAT WERE ALREADY IN THE WORKS. WE WERE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE. NOW THE VISION AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD AT EPFM. THERE WAS A LARGE CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY OR THOSE PARCELS ACTUALLY BEING LOOKED AT AS A FUTURE POLICE ACADEMY. IN FACT, IT HAD BEEN ADVERTISED AT ONE POINT THAT WAY, AND I BELIEVE THE BOND PROPOSITION ALLOWED FOR EITHER A POLICE ACADEMY TO GO THERE AND OR A CITY SERVICE CENTER. WITH ALL THE DISCUSSION AND EVERYTHING WE'VE RECENTLY DONE ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY LOCATE THE POLICE ACADEMY. NOW, THAT OPTION ACTUALLY FELL OUT OF THE PICTURE. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT GFM. SO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE SINCE HAD ABOUT NOW THAT THAT'S NO LONGER AN OPTION, DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BOND PROPOSITION AND THE VISION THAT WAS GIVEN THERE WITH THE OTHER OPTIONS FOR PROPERTY? WHEN WE ADDED ROLAND PARIS PARK, WHICH IS A PART OF THAT AREA, WHICH WAS RECENTLY, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER PLANS THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS FOR THAT AREA. THESE ARE PARCELS THAT WE STILL NEED, THAT THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THAT VISION UNTIL WE COMPLETE THESE ACQUISITIONS. SO IS THERE CERTAINTY THAT THIS WILL BECOME A SERVICE CENTER? I THINK THAT'S STILL A DECISION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NEED TO MAKE THAT WILL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL. I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHARE IS THAT THIS ONGOING ACQUISITION PIECE, EVEN IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SERVICE CENTER OR SOME OF THE PURPOSE, THESE ADDITIONAL PARCELS WOULD BE NECESSARY. AND I ALSO MENTIONED THAT WE HAVE WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER REPRESENTS THAT DISTRICT. I KNOW HE'S ALREADY HAD SOME MEETINGS OUT IN THAT AREA WITH THE RESIDENTS TALKING ABOUT A VISIONING PROCESS FOR THIS AREA. AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT. AND SO BEFORE AN ACTUAL PROJECT IS IDENTIFIED, COMPLETED OR EVEN FINALIZED, THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THIS FULL BODY FOR CONSIDERATION. BUT THAT JUST HASN'T HAPPENED YET. AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. WELL, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE OUGHT TO HAVE A VERY STRONG VISION OF WHAT WE'RE AIMING FOR BEFORE WE START TAKING PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. AND ALSO, THE RESIDENTS SHOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THEY'RE OR SUPPORTING, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE HEAR SERVICE CENTER AND IT SOUNDS VERY PEOPLE ORIENTED, BUT IN FACT THE SERVICE CENTER IS VERY VEHICLE HEAVY. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD THERE WOULD BE LARGE GARBAGE TRUCKS GOING THERE. THERE MIGHT BE A LOT OF OTHER FLEET VEHICLES, AND THAT SEEMS SOMEWHAT INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE PARK BEING NEXT DOOR. AND SO I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND HIS LEADERSHIP IN BRINGING THIS TO FRUITION. I JUST FEEL LIKE WE ARE FAR FROM IT. MISS MENDELSOHN, YOUR COMMENTS ARE SPOT ON. [03:30:02] THERE'S LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING ABOUT WHAT THAT VISION WOULD LOOK LIKE. I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, BUT HE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ME THAT HE WANTS THE VISION, WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO THERE IS NOT AN INCOMPATIBLE USE IF THEY FEEL LIKE THAT. THERE'S SOME IMPASSE THAT WE HAVE BASED ON THE DESIGN, WE'LL TAKE A RELOOK AT IT AND THIS FULL BODY WILL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THAT. I'M GLAD CHAIRMAN WEST SHOWED BACK UP, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAD A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY SEE THE FORECAST FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. ACTUALLY, THE ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON REAL ESTATE. THAT'S ON OUR PRIORITY LIST, WHICH CADILLAC HEIGHTS IS ONE OF THOSE? BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ASKING US TO SPEND $1.65 MILLION WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE ACTUAL USE WILL BE, AND IT'S EMINENT DOMAIN. YES, MA'AM. I THOUGHT I HAD ADDRESSED THAT, SO THE BOND PROPOSITION ALLOWED FOR EITHER A POLICE ACADEMY, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY. THIS BODY HAS ALREADY MADE A DECISION ABOUT. THAT POLICE ACADEMY IS GOING TO GO ELSEWHERE, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR A CITY SERVICE CENTER. AND SO THAT'S THE LEGWORK AND FEASIBILITY. CITY SERVICE CENTER. THERE'S NO OTHER OPTION. I'LL HAVE TO GET SOME LEGAL COUNSEL ON THAT. BUT TO MY RECOLLECTION, AS IT RELATES TO THE BOND PROPOSITION AND WHAT IT WOULD ALLOW A CITY SERVICE CENTER OR A POLICE ACADEMY TYPE FACILITY, THOSE WERE THE OPTIONS, MY UNDERSTANDING. CITY ATTORNEY. SO IS THAT CORRECT THAT IT MUST BE A CITY SERVICE CENTER? I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BOND LANGUAGE, BUT I DO BELIEVE IN THE PAST WE'VE DISCUSSED IT. IT'S A VERY NARROW BOND PROPOSITION, BUT I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE ITSELF TO ANSWER THAT PRECISELY. BUT IF IT MUST BE A CITY SERVICE CENTER, THEN THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT MEETING WITH A COMMUNITY WHERE WE SAY THERE'S GOING TO BE A CITY SERVICE CENTER HERE. WHAT ADJUSTMENTS DO WE NEED TO MAKE TO MAKE THIS WORKABLE? YES, MA'AM. FOR ALL THE ALL THE USES WE TALK ABOUT AT THIS COUNCIL, ABOUT, OH, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD OR THAT I HAVE TO TELL YOU, A CITY SERVICE CENTER IS A PRETTY HEAVY USE. AND WHILE NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN DISTRICT 12 OPPOSED A HOMELESS SHELTER, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IF IT WAS A SERVICE CENTER, THEY WOULD. WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'VE SAID AGAIN, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THAT THROUGHOUT THESE LAST FEW MONTHS WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, WITH COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, WE ARE ENGAGING IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I THINK TRADITIONALLY A SERVICE CENTER HAS HAD A CERTAIN STIGMATISM ATTACHED TO IT WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. WE KNOW THAT A PARK IS SOMETHING THAT IS DESIRABLE IN THAT AREA, AND THAT FUNDING HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE FOR THE PHASE ONE OF THE ROSELAND PARISH PARK, WHICH IS NOW PROGRESSING. SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER, WHAT MIGHT BE SERVICE CENTER COMPONENTS THAT COULD GO AT THAT LOCATION, BUT I THINK THE DUE DILIGENCE WOULD NOT BE DONE AROUND THE HORSESHOE TODAY. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE ENGAGEMENT THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS ASKED US TO UNDERTAKE, AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL AT A LATER DATE TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING FINAL BEFORE WE SAY THAT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING IN THERE. BUT I THINK THE OPTION NOW THAT WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM THE POLICE ACADEMY WOULD BE TO TO FOCUS ON THE SERVICE CENTER PIECE, AND THERE COULD BE A MODIFIED APPROACH THAT'S TAKEN WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT'S THERE, THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLES, THE EXTENT OF THE WAY THAT THAT ACTUAL SERVICE CENTER COULD BE UTILIZED. BUT I DON'T THINK TODAY THAT WE HAVE ALL THOSE ANSWERS BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S ON THE AGENDA NOW WHEN WE DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE ANSWERS. IS THERE A REASON WHY THIS COULDN'T WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE MORE CLARITY ON WHAT IT WILL BE AND HOW IT WILL BE USED? SO THE NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE REACHED OUT TO US. IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT A MAP OF THAT AREA, MA'AM, IT'S WE PURCHASED, I WOULD SAY 85% OF THE PARCELS THERE, AND THERE'S JUST A FEW PEOPLE LEFT IN THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. AND SO WE'VE HAD HOT AND COLD CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS RELATIVE TO WHAT'S THE NEXT BEST THING FOR THE CITY TO DO. AND WE'VE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS. AT ONE POINT, THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION HAD ACTUALLY STALLED CONVERSATIONS THERE BECAUSE THERE WAS A DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER POLICE ACADEMY WOULD GO. YOU GUYS HAVE DEBATED THAT THAT CONVERSATION HAS BEEN HAD AND DONE, AND STAFF STARTED MOVING FORWARD WITH TRYING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE THE MISSION BECAUSE THERE'S STILL THE OPPORTUNITY AND VISION FOR A SERVICE CENTER TO GO TO THAT LOCATION. WELL, I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN GOING ON, I WOULD IMAGINE, SINCE 2006 WITH THE BOND. CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. AND SO NOW THAT YOU HAVE SUCH AN ENGAGED COUNCIL MEMBER WHO IS LEADING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, [03:35:01] LIKE, WHY WOULDN'T IT COME SIX MONTHS LATER WHEN THERE'S CLARITY ON WHAT IT WOULD BE BEFORE WE EXECUTE AN EMINENT DOMAIN VOTE? I CAN'T SPEAK FOR FOR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, BUT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS AND SEVERAL MEETINGS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR AREA, HIS VISION AND DESIRE FOR THAT AREA. WE BRIEFED HIM ABOUT THIS ITEM ACTUALLY COMING ON THE AGENDA TODAY, AND WE'VE DONE SO SINCE HE GOT ONBOARDED TO COUNCIL. AND SO HE LEFT US WITH THE IMPRESSION, AND AGAIN, NOT TO SPEAK FOR HIM, THAT HE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THE ACTION TODAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. CADENA. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. YES. I WANTED TO KNOW IF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE AGREED TO THE EMINENT DOMAIN OFFERS. I BELIEVE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WOULD WOULD BE NO. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO NEGOTIATE A PRICE ON THESE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES. SOME OF THEM. AND FORGIVE ME, ASHLEY, CAN I BORROW YOU FOR A SECOND? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE WRONG LEGAL WORDS RELATIVE TO REAL ESTATE, BUT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE ENCUMBERED. THE THE PEOPLE WHO WHOSE NAME IS ON THE BOOKS. THEY'RE NO LONGER ALIVE. THERE'S JUST A WHOLE SERIES OF THINGS THAT ARE CORRELATED THAT WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE A A PERSON TO TALK TO IN THIS LEGAL PROCEEDING FOR EMINENT DOMAIN IS GOING TO HELP US GET CLEAR TITLE, BECAUSE TODAY WE CAN'T DO SO THERE'S THERE'S ACTUALLY, IN SOME INSTANCES NOT SOMEBODY TO NEGOTIATE WITH LEGALLY TO NEGOTIATE WITH. MISS ASHLEY, DID I MISSPEAK THERE? OH. ASHLEY EUBANKS FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT COUNCIL MEMBER 90% OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE CLOUDY TITLE HEIRSHIP ISSUES JUDGMENTS AND LEANS AGAINST THEM. AND SO WE'RE UNABLE TO CLOSE ON THESE PROPERTIES. WHAT ABOUT THE ONES THAT DIDN'T HAVE A CLOUDY TITLE? THERE'S TWO PROPERTIES IN THAT IN THAT CATEGORY. AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVE NOT AGREED TO THE CITY'S APPRAISED PRICE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ASHLEY, WAS THAT IT, MISS GAVINO? CHAIRMAN WAS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND MR. GIBSON, YOU'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND I KNOW PROACTIVE ABOUT WORKING ON OUR REAL ESTATE PORTFOLIO. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS A LOT OF US SHARED ON GFM WAS THAT WE HAVE 50,000 ACRES OF REAL ESTATE IN THE CITY. AND AND THE CONCERN WITH, WITH US GROWING OUR PORTFOLIO EVEN MORE WHEN WE HAVE ALL THESE OTHER DEBTS. SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF CADILLAC HEIGHTS AND THE WAY YOU'VE EXPLAINED IT, IT SEEMS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT IS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO TAKE SERVICES FROM OTHER AREAS AND PUT THEM AT THIS LOCATION SO THAT THEN WE CAN OPEN UP OTHER PARCELS ACROSS THE CITY FOR REDEVELOPMENT, FOR SALE, FOR FOR ACTIVATION IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO HELP OUR TAX BASE AND NOT BE A FURTHER BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS. CAN YOU CLARIFY, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY. WELL SAID. SO I WAS GOING TO TRY TO DEVIATE FROM THAT BECAUSE THE CITY MANAGER SAID THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO KIND OF DEBATE IT HERE, BUT YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. YEAH. SO THERE IS THE OPTION TO DIVEST OF WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE THAT MIGHT BE IN PRIME LOCATIONS THAT I BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL MIGHT FIND A FAVORABLE BUYER FOR, THAT WE COULD PUT THOSE PROPERTIES BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS AND IT COULD BE A WIN WIN. THE CITY WILL STILL PERFORM THE SERVICES. IN FACT, IN A COMMUNITY THAT MAY HAVE FELT UNDERSERVED IN THE PAST TO GET THESE SERVICES ACTUALLY CLOSER TO HOME. AND THEN THE CITY GET TO REACTIVATE OTHER PARCELS THAT WE'RE USING TODAY THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, ARE PROBABLY IN PRIME LOCATIONS THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE. AND IN SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD WITH CBRE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS YOU NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR ACTIVE INVENTORY AND AT DIFFERENT TIMES YOU NEED TO TEST THE MARKET. YOU NEED TO VALIDATE WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD BE HOLDING THESE PROPERTIES. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S LEADING INTO OUR STRATEGIC REAL ESTATE PLAN AS WELL. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING ALL THESE TYPES OF THINGS TO FINANCE. IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE AT AN IMPASSE AT THIS LOCATION. IF WE WERE TO LEAVE WHAT'S THERE TODAY, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE SCATTERGRAM OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE STILL YET THAT BE ASSEMBLED, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO EVEN VISION AND START MAKING SOME DECISIONS. RIGHT. AND SO YOU GO TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN WAITING ON WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS. WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE THERE, AND WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHOSE DISTRICT IS INVOLVED TO MAKE SURE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. WE HAVE PLANS TO COME TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION, TO FINISH OUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MISS MENDELSOHN BROUGHT UP ABOUT. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO NOW? NOW, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A POLICE ACADEMY ANYMORE, RIGHT? SO YOU TOUCHED ON TWO OF MY NEXT THREE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE WAS HAS CBRE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND ADVISING US ACCORDINGLY? NO, THEY HAVE NOT. WHY? WHY HAVEN'T THEY? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT POINT YET. WHEN I WAS BRINGING UP CBRE, IT WAS A MORE GENERAL SUMMARY CONVERSATION ABOUT MAKING SURE YOU'RE TAKING A LOOK AT ALL YOUR ACTIVE ASSETS, [03:40:05] AND WHEN IT MIGHT BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE TIME TO DIVEST OF THEM. THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE IN PARTICULAR, THE CENTRAL SERVICE CENTER CAME UP LONG BEFORE WE HAD ENGAGED CBRE ABOUT WHAT OPTIONS MIGHT LOOK LIKE THERE. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT TO GFM AND HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. I BRIEFED ON IT SEVERAL TIMES. HAS CBRE BEEN INVOLVED IN ANALYZING THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT COULD HAVE SERVICES RELOCATED TO CADILLAC HEIGHTS? NO, SIR. WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR YET. WE'VE DONE SOME INTERNAL LEGWORK ON OUR OWN. WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME, SOME, SOME DIFFERENT PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THAT, IN PARTICULAR THE EDC. SO THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS. THERE'S LEGWORK THAT'S THAT'S ONGOING. BUT THE VISION AND THE WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE GOING NEXT, AND ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH WITH MR. COUNCILMAN MAXI MAXIE JOHNSON. WE BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE APPROPRIATE NEXT STEPS. ALL RIGHT. YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PROPERTY. I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THE MAP AT GFM, AND THERE'S RANDOM PROPERTIES ALL THROUGHOUT THAT PREVENT LIKE A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT CLEARING THAT UP. YES, SIR. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU AND MISS ASHLEY, SHE'S OVER THERE. I CAN CLEAR THIS UP BETTER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT IN MANY CASES, ARE ENCUMBERED IN A NUMEROUS NUMBER OF WAYS, THAT AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH. THERE'S LIENS. THERE'S A WHOLE RANGE OF ISSUES RELATIVE TO THESE PROPERTIES TO EVEN GET CLEAR TITLE THAT ARE THERE, THAT EXIST TODAY FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN EVEN DEVELOPING WHAT WAS LEFT THAT WE HAVEN'T PURCHASED. SO I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THIS POTENTIAL OF US EVEN STIFLING ANY OTHER ACTIVITY THERE JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT'S LEFT. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO GO TO EXACTLY WHAT DENZIL JUST CLOSED HIS COMMENTS WITH BECAUSE OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY OWN. IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU'VE GOT HOLES THAT ARE SITTING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO TO GET A COMPLETE PARCEL THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED FOR WHATEVER THAT THIS BODY COMES BACK AND DECIDES ON. AND SO WITHOUT THOSE OTHER PIECES, YOU CAN'T DEVELOP ANYWAY IN THAT AREA. SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT PLUGGING THOSE HOLES THAT CURRENTLY EXIST IN US, TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A PARCEL THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED, WHETHER IT'S A SERVICE CENTER, WHICH IS WHAT THE VOTERS APPROVED, THAT OUR POLICE ACADEMY, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THESE PIECES. THAT THAT HELPS. SO LITERALLY YOU CAN'T WE COULDN'T SELL IT. WE COULDN'T NOT NOT EFFECTIVELY WE COULDN'T DEVELOP ON IT. WE COULDN'T MOVE ASSETS THERE. WE'RE LITERALLY HANDHELD UNTIL THIS PIECE IS DONE TO DECIDE WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE. THE FUNDING THAT'S BEING USED FOR THIS, I NOTICE IT'S ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THERE'S, IT'S REFERENCES, OTHER FUNDS THE FUNDING PIECES IN THERE. THAT REALLY LIMITS WHAT WE CAN DO ON THIS SITE AS WELL. RIGHT THEN THAT TIE BACK TO THE SERVICE CENTER. EXACTLY. AND THAT'S WHY THE BOND FUNDS, WHICH IS WHERE THE ALLOCATION WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED AND WHAT WAS VOTED ON BY THE VOTERS, THAT IT WOULD BE OUT OF THAT 2006 BOND PROGRAM. SO THOSE ARE THE DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED FOR THE ADDITIONAL ACQUISITION. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. DID YOU HAVE THERE WAS A COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THIS THIS IS ALL 2006 BOND FUNDS. SO NO ENTERPRISE. THERE'S NO ENTERPRISE FUNDS INVOLVED IN THIS. YES OR OTHER FUNDS. WHY DOES THE ITEM REFERENCE ENTERPRISE FUNDS THEN DOESN'T. AM I LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE HERE? ITEM 17. THIS IS ITEM 74. YEAH. IT SAYS FINANCING LAND ACQUISITION AND CADILLAC HEIGHTS FUND. OKAY. 2006 GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND FUNDS. MY BAD. YEAH, I WAS READING THE I WAS JUMPING BETWEEN CELLS THERE. OKAY, I THINK I THINK I'M GOOD WITH THIS. I JUST MY, MY CONCERN IS JUST CONTINUING TO ACQUIRE MORE LAND WITHOUT A PLAN IN PLACE TO SORT OF ACTIVATE SOME OF THIS OTHER PROPERTY WE'RE HOLDING ON TO WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER DEBTS. SO I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT COMES REALLY FAST TO FINANCE COMMITTEE. YOU KNOW, FOR VARIOUS PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN, ACTUALLY, LET ME GO TO CHAIRMAN RIDLEY FIRST BEFORE I GO BACK TO CHAIRMAN JOHNSON FOR A SECOND ROUND. THANK YOU. MAYOR. QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY. TAMMY, IS IT NOT A REQUIRED A LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY TO EXERCISE ITS RIGHT OF EMINENT DOMAIN, THAT IT BE FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE? YES. AND SEIZING LAND JUST TO FACILITATES SOME UNIDENTIFIED PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT A PUBLIC PURPOSE, IS IT? [03:45:01] YOU'RE ASKING. IT'S NOT A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A PUBLIC DEVELOPMENT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AROUND THE HORSESHOE. AND THERE WERE STATEMENTS BY THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE NEEDED TO ASSEMBLE PROPERTY TO FACILITATE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME. THAT'S NOT OUR FUNCTION HERE. IF WE HAVE A STATED PUBLIC PURPOSE FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE OFFING, THEN FINE. BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST SPECULATING BY SEIZING THIS LAND NOW, WITHOUT A STATED PUBLIC PURPOSE, AND BECAUSE THERE IS OPPOSITION TO THIS STEP, WOULDN'T WE BE IN A VERY VULNERABLE POSITION IF THIS IS CHALLENGED IN COURT FOR LACK OF A PUBLIC PURPOSE, IF WE CAN'T EVEN ARTICULATE ONE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE? THERE IS A PUBLIC PURPOSE, AND THESE ARE BOND DOLLARS BEING USED FOR VERY SPECIFIC PUBLIC PURPOSE. THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO BE USED FOR A FEW NOT DEVELOPMENTS BUT FACILITIES. WELL, BUT THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING SOURCE DOES NOT CREATE A PUBLIC PURPOSE. LOOKING AT THE RESOLUTION, IT IT PROVIDES FOR A USE IN THE RESOLUTION. AND SO THAT IS YOUR PUBLIC PURPOSE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SERVICE CENTER. THE USE IS CONSTRUCTION AND OR MAINTENANCE. AND THIS HAS TO GET SOME CLARITY FROM DONZELL. USE AND MAINTENANCE OF A FIRE STATION TOGETHER WITH SUCH APPURTENANT FACILITIES MAY BE NECESSARY. PROVIDE. HOWEVER, TO THE EXTENT THE FEE TITLE IS ACQUIRED, ETCETERA, BUT I. WELL, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE NEED FOR A FIRE STATION HERE. WHAT'S THE SECTION? IT STARTS THERE. YES. PROPOSITION TEN, AND I'LL QUOTE IT SAYS ACQUIRING THIS. THESE FUNDS ARE SET ASIDE FOR PERMANENT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR ACQUIRING LAND IN AN AREA KNOWN AS CADILLAC HEIGHTS, FOR THE FUTURE LOCATION OF A POLICE ACADEMY, RELATED FACILITIES AND OR CITY SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES. WELL, OKAY, WE'VE ALREADY DISMISSED THE IDEA OF A POLICE ACADEMY, SO THERE'S NO NEED MENTIONING THAT AGAIN. AND I HAVE HEARD NO SPECIFIC PLANS FOR A SERVICE FACILITY HERE. WE HAVE ENOUGH VACANT AND UNUSED CITY PROPERTY THAT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SPENDING 01,000,006 SIX. FOR ADDITIONAL PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE NO IMMEDIATE NEED FOR AND NO SPECIFIC PLANS TO UTILIZE, THERE'S NO REASON WHY THIS. CAN'T WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE DEVELOPED THOSE PLANS IN CONSULTATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THAT WE CAN JUSTIFY THIS PUBLIC EXPENDITURE AND TAKING SOMEONE'S PROPERTY. OKAY. CHAIRMAN JOHNSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY NOT KNOWING. ONE THING I DO WELL IN MY DISTRICT IS SPEAK WITH MY COMMUNITY. THIS IS NOT A NEW PROCESS, A NEW INFORMATION OR DEVELOPMENT FOR ME. WHEN I WAS A SCHOOL BOARD TRUSTEE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. IT WAS IN MY SCHOOL BOARD DISTRICT. SO I'VE HAD PLENTY COMMUNICATION AND PLENTY MEETINGS AROUND THIS. AND I SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE CITY COUNCIL, THE FIRST THING THAT CAME IN THE OFFICE TALKING ABOUT, I DIDN'T TAKE A BREAK. I WAS HERE WHEN YOU WAS ON BREAK. I WAS HERE ADVOCATING FOR MY COMMUNITY AND GETTING THIS THING DONE FOR OUR FOR OUR COMMUNITY. ONE OF MY LEADERS THAT'S SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE, MR. MIKE BROWN, BROUGHT THIS TO HIM. I LIVED IN CEDAR CREST FOR 48 YEARS. I JUST MOVED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION IN DISTRICT FOUR. SO TO QUESTION IS MY COMMUNITY AWARE? THAT'S MY JOB. AND I DO THAT WELL. SO MY COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF IT. I'M BIG ON I'M BIG ON ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY. I'M BIG ON MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE MEETINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY SURROUNDING EVERY PROJECT, BIG OR SMALL, TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND TO GIVE INPUT. WHEN I SAY WE'RE BUILDING THE COMMUNITY WITH THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'RE NOT IGNORING OUR COMMUNITY. SO TO ANSWER THAT STATEMENT, NOT A QUESTION, BUT THAT STATEMENT. LET LET IT BE CLEAR THAT THAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, FORMER TRUSTEE JOHNSON, MADE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN INFORMED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, AND THEY ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE ROLAND PARISH PARK THAT'S BEING BUILT THERE. WE HAVE FUTURE ENDEAVORS THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO GET THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT PROJECT, BUT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS CLEAR. SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. [03:50:04] DENZEL, THE THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE, WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY, COMMUNICATING WITH OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS PROJECT, JUST LETTING IT STAY THERE AND BEING ANOTHER BLIGHT IN DISTRICT FOUR IS SOMETHING THAT MY COMMUNITY IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF. SO WE WANT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A PRIME PROJECT. IT'S RIGHT DOWN IN CEDAR CREST, AND OUR COMMUNITY IS AWARE, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE MEETINGS ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP THIS AND MORE INVOLVEMENT IN CEDAR CREST AND DISTRICT FOUR. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HAS HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND MY COMMUNITY IS NOT OBLIVIOUS TO WHAT'S GOING ON. THEY ARE FULLY INFORMED AND I WILL KEEP THEM FULLY INFORMED CONCERNING THIS PROJECT AND ANY OTHER PROJECT IN DISTRICT FOUR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 74. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. MR. MAYOR, I'M SORRY. WE WILL REQUIRE A RECORD VOTE. SORRY. WE DO. IT'S AN EMINENT DOMAIN ONE, SO WE NEED A ROLL CALL. THANK YOU. WHEN I CALL YOU. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCILMEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCILMEMBER GRACEY. YES. COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. YES. COUNCILMEMBER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT. COUNCILMEMBER CADENA NO. COUNCILMEMBER BAZALDUA. YES. COUNCILMEMBER BLAIR. YES. COUNCILMEMBER BLACKMON. YES. COUNCILMEMBER STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER ROTH IS ABSENT. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. COUNCILMEMBER RIDLEY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. WILLIS. YES, MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO. YES. MAYOR JOHNSON. YES. WITH TEN VOTING IN FAVOR, TWO OPPOSED TO ABSENT AND ONE ABSENT VOTE TAKEN. THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM. MR. MAYOR, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO RETURN BACK TO ITEM 73? YES, IF WE'RE STAFF IS READY. OKAY. YES. WE'RE READY. OKAY. AGENDA ITEM 73 WAS READ INTO THE RECORD, MR. [73. 25-2399A Authorize the City’s contracted broker of record, Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc. to purchase insurance policies for commercial property, boiler and machinery and loss control, terrorism, cyber liability, fine arts, crime, aviation, flood, media professional liability, general liability, and other lines of coverage as needed for the period October 1, 2025 to September 30, 2026 - Not to exceed $15,261,509.25 - Financing: Risk Management Fund (subject to annual appropriations) (Part 2 of 2)] MAYOR. AND I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. WHERE WE LEFT OFF WAS COUNCILMAN RIDLEY. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU HAD THE FLOOR. DO YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH TIME HE HAD? HE HAD A VERY SHORT OF FIVE MINUTES. PRETTY MUCH LIKE FOUR MINUTES. OKAY. FOUR MINUTES AND 32 SECONDS. OKAY. THANK YOU. CARRY ON. SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY HIGH DOLLAR EXPENDITURE OF $15 MILLION. AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO INFORM THE COUNCIL WHAT ITEMS THE CITY SELF-INSURES FOR, AS OPPOSED TO THE ITEMS CONTAINED IN THIS AGENDA ITEM. HI, MY NAME IS RHONDA SMITH AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF RISK MANAGEMENT. THE CITY OF DALLAS IS SELF-INSURED FOR GENERAL LIABILITY CLAIMS AND WORKERS COMPENSATION CLAIMS. WE HAVE 14 LINES OF INSURANCE COVERAGE. THE MAJORITY IS FOR THE PROPERTY COVERAGE. PROPERTY INSURANCE. WE INSURE OVER $5 BILLION WORTH OF ASSETS. THAT'S BUILDING AND CONTENTS. AND COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S INSURANCE RENEWAL, WE WERE ABLE TO GAIN AN ADDITIONAL $50,000,050 MILLION IN LIMITS AND REDUCE THE PREMIUM BY OVER $1 MILLION. WELL, I'M VERY PLEASED TO HEAR THAT YOU STRIKE A HARD BARGAIN WITH OUR INSURERS. YOU MENTIONED THAT WE SELF-INSURE FOR GENERAL LIABILITY, BUT GENERAL LIABILITY IS MENTIONED AS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE PURCHASING THIS INSURANCE FOR. OKAY. THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIABILITY. SO FOR INSTANCE THE CITY OWNS SOUTHERN STATES. SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE LIABILITY COVERAGE FOR THAT. IN AN ORDINANCE WHEREVER AN HOA HAS A MONUMENT OR SOMETHING ON A CITY EASEMENT, WE BUY THE INSURANCE AND CHARGE IT BACK TO THE HOA, BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BUILD SOMETHING ON OUR EASEMENT, THEY HAVE TO HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE, AND WE CAN GET IT CHEAPER FOR THEM THAN THEY CAN BUY IT FOR THEMSELVES. SO WHEN YOU SEE LIABILITY ON THERE, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. THERE'S MEDIA PROFESSIONAL LIABILITY BECAUSE OF OUR MEDIA RADIO STATION. SO THOSE ARE THE MINOR LIABILITY PREMIUMS THAT WE PAY. OKAY. SO THE OTHER GENERAL LIABILITY ITEMS THAT WE SELF-INSURE FOR ARE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS, FOR EXAMPLE. YES, SIR. AND GENERAL NEGLIGENCE CLAIMS. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? AGENDA. WE'RE BACK AT AGENDA ITEM 73. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM PLEASE, MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. [75. 25-2364A An ordinance amending Ordinance No. 32861, previously approved on September 18, 2024, as amended by Ordinance No. 32925, previously approved on December 11, 2024, as amended by Ordinance No. 33027, previously approved on March 26, 2025, as amended by Ordinance No. 33127, previously approved on June 11, 2025, as amended by Ordinance No. 33172, previously approved on August 13, 2025, authorizing (1) certain transfers and appropriation adjustments for FY 2024-25 for the maintenance and operation of various departments and activities; and (2) the City Manager to implement those adjustments - Not to exceed $5,566,481,013 - Financing: General Fund ($1,908,816,164), Enterprise Funds, Internal Service, and Other Funds ($1,829,392,552), Grants, Trust, and Other Funds ($225,381,087), and Capital Funds ($1,602,891,210)] MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 75. AGENDA ITEM 75 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 32861, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2024, AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 32925, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON DECEMBER 11TH, [03:55:07] 2024, AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 33027, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON MARCH 26TH, 2025, AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE 33127, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON JUNE 11TH, 2025, AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE 33172, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON AUGUST 13TH, 2025, AUTHORIZING ONE CERTAIN TRANSFERS AND APPROPRIATION ADJUSTMENTS FOR FY 20 2425, FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND ACTIVITIES, AND TO THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS NOT TO EXCEED 5 MILLION $566,481,013. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION OR A MOTION TO APPROVE? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 76 IS A RESOLUTION APPOINTING BLANK AS INTERIM INSPECTOR [76. 25-2787A A resolution appointing _______ as Interim Inspector General, effective at the close of business on September 26, 2025, to serve until the City Council selects and appoints the Inspector General - Not to exceed $_____.00 - Financing: General Fund] GENERAL, EFFECTIVE AT THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2025, TO SERVE UNTIL THE CITY COUNCIL SELECTS AND APPOINTS THE INSPECTOR GENERAL NOT TO EXCEED BLANK DOLLARS. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. WHO HAS A MOTION ON THIS? MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZE? THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPOINT BARRON ELLISON AS THE INTERIM INSPECTOR GENERAL, WITH THE ANNUAL BASE SALARY OF $150,000, EFFECTIVE AT THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2025. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? MAYOR PRO TEM? NO. ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE? SEEING? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA. YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS Z ONE THROUGH Z [ZONING CASES - CONSENT] 13. ITEM Z FIVE HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR, AND ITEM Z 13 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CADENA. THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS Z ONE THROUGH Z FOUR AND Z SIX THROUGH Z 12. I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD. ITEM Z ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD AND ELAM ROAD. ITEM Z TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT OUTSIDE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF MARKET CENTER BOULEVARD, NORTHWEST OF TURTLE CREEK BOULEVARD. ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ON PROPERTY GENERALLY BOUNDED BY BONNYVIEW ROAD, SOUTHERLAND AVENUE, AND ARROW ROAD, SOUTH OF TERMINUS OF DALVA AVENUE AND ON THE EAST LINE OF ARROW ROAD NORTH OF SUTHERLAND AVENUE. ITEM Z FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CHILD, CARE FOR A CHILD OR ADULT CARE FACILITY, AND A PRIVATE RECREATION CENTER, CLUB, OR AREA ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF FORDHAM ROAD BETWEEN SOUTH MAUSOLUS AVENUE AND MARYLAND AVENUE. ITEM C6 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 145 FOR A GOVERNMENT INSTALLATION OTHER THAN LISTED ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF ALGONQUIN DRIVE BETWEEN LATE JUNE ROAD AND SAN LEON AVENUE. ITEM C7 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A-3, A TOWNHOUSE SUBDISTRICT, AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH CORNER OF MYRTLE STREET AND MARLBOROUGH STREET. ITEM C8 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A-3, A TOWNHOUSE SUBDISTRICT, AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE EAST CORNER OF COLONIAL AVENUE AND DRISCOLL STREET. ITEM NINE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A TH DASH ONE TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH EWING AVENUE, NORTH OF EAST CENTER AVENUE. ITEM C10 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A HANDICAPPED GROUP DWELLING UNIT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE SOUTH LINE OF PLAZA BOULEVARD BETWEEN LINDA LANE AND LAFLEUR LANE. ITEM Z11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2147 FOR A COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTER ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SUTHERLAND AVENUE AND BONNYVIEW ROAD. [04:00:01] ITEM Z12 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING R DASH TEN, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF BICENTENNIAL LANE, SOUTHWEST OF MIDDLEFIELD ROAD. THESE ARE YOUR ZONING CONSENT ITEMS. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY OF THE ZONING ITEMS THAT WERE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD. NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. OH MAN, I LIKE THAT Y'ALL ARE ON IT. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN. SECOND IS THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES. CONSENT. CHAIRMAN JOHNSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ON ZONE 11. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. MIKE BROWN TO COME DOWN AS HE'S COMING DOWN. MR. MAYOR, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME. I BELIEVE OVER $60 MILLION WORTH OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO GO ON HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND IT'S IT'S A BUNCH OF BLIGHT THAT WAS THERE NEXT TO A CHURCH THAT'S BEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR A LONG TIME. AND AS WE KNOW, CEDAR CREST HAS RICH HISTORY. FORMER CONGRESSWOMAN EDDIE BERNICE JOHNSON LIVED THERE. COACH ELLIS DAVIS LIVED THERE. FORMER JUDGE CLYFFORD STILL LIVED THERE. AND SO MANY PEOPLE. AND TO SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT GO ON AND WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY, COUNTLESS OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT CEDAR CREST GOLF COURSE, AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AS AS A RESIDENT AND NOW AS A COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I WANT TO ASK MR. MIKE BROWN TO KIND OF ELABORATE MORE OF WHAT THIS MEANS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THE WORK THAT HE AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS PUT INTO THIS PROJECT. SURE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MICHAEL BROWN. ADDRESSES 2133 CEDAR STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS. AND TO ELABORATE ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HAS BEEN SAYING THIS PROJECT IS A VERY GOOD PROJECT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BRIEF HISTORY. CEDAR CREST NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1923 WITH APPROXIMATELY 23 I'M SORRY, 200 ACRES. SINCE THAT TIME, THERE WAS A CHURCH CALLED SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST, WHICH WAS ON BOUNDARY ROAD, HAD THE VISION TO BUY 40 ACRES THERE. THEIR VISION WAS TO BUILD HOMES AND A CHURCH. THEY MADE IT OUT OF ONE VISION. THAT WAS, THEY BUILT A CHURCH. APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES OF LAND WAS NEVER DEVELOPED. SO IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. IT'S TAKEN A MINUTE, BUT IN JULY OF 2024, D.R. HORTON APPROACHED THE CHURCH IN PURCHASING THIS LAND. AND THAT'S WHERE THE SHOW BEGAN. WE HAVE HAD SERIES OF MEETINGS AFTER MEETINGS, AFTER MEETINGS, COMPROMISE CONVERSATION. AND I WANT TO APPLAUD EVERYONE WHO HAS WORKED ON THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE COME TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS PROJECT TO WHERE IT IS TODAY. D.R. HORTON DID NOT GIVE UP. THEY STAYED WITH THE PROJECT. MARTIN BATES WITH THE CITY PLANNING OFFICE DID NOT GIVE UP. TOM FORSYTH WITH THE CPC DID NOT GIVE UP. THESE PEOPLE HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS OF HOURS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. I NOTICED BECAUSE I WORKED THEM CONSTANTLY ABOUT GETTING IT DONE. AND YOU SAY, WHAT IS SO COMPLICATED ABOUT THIS PROJECT? THE PROJECT IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED IN A VISION. IT IS THAT COMPLICATED TO BRING IT TO FRUITION. THIS AREA OF TOWN IS LIKE A ROLLER COASTER. IF YOU EVER GO UP SOUTHERN AVENUE, THE STREET STARTS AT ONE END, GOES UP, DROPS DOWN, GOES UP. THAT TERRAIN IS VERY DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH. IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOMEONE WITH A GREAT VISION AND A GREAT AMOUNT OF SKILL TO BRING THIS TO FRUITION. OUR COUNCILPERSON, MAXEY JOHNSON, WHO HAS BEEN ON BOARD WITH US THROUGH ALL THESE MEETINGS AND HAS THE FULL SUPPORT OF THIS. WE HAVE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE MET THAT DID NOT EVEN KNOW BEFORE THIS PROJECT. THAT COMPANY IS FORTUNE METALS AND PLASTIC. THEY HAVE AN OPERATION THERE. THEY HAVE STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE WITH US ON OUR MEETINGS. THEY HAVE OFFERED RESOURCES OUT OF THEIR POCKET TO GET CONSULTANTS TO HIRE TO MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT COMES TO FRUITION. SO IT HAS NOT BEEN JUST THE CITY CREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS NOT BEEN CPC. IT'S BEEN OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE WORKED COUNTLESS BEHIND THE SCENES. THERE'S A DEVELOPER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAS OFFERED HIS EXPERTISE ON HELPING US IN THIS PROJECT, TO THIS FRUITION. THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS MEETINGS. AS I MENTIONED, WE STARTED THIS IN JULY OF 2024. HERE IT IS THE 24TH OF SEPTEMBER OF 2025. SO THAT GIVES YOU PRETTY MUCH TIME FRAME OF WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE GOT THIS TO COME TOGETHER. SO NO ONE GAVE UP. NO ONE SAID IT WAS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. [04:05:06] IT WAS A CHURCH VISION. THEY ARE NOW WILLING TO SELL THIS PROPERTY TO A DEVELOPER WHO I BELIEVE, WHO HAS SKILLS. WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE EXCITING TO HAPPEN IN THIS PROJECT. IF YOU SEE THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWING, YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE EIGHT ACRES OF TRAIL. THERE'S GOING TO BE WALK THROUGH THERE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE ABLE TO USE. THERE WILL BE SOME THINGS THAT WE CONSIDER THAT IT'S IT'S KIND OF IN AN AREA WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF ON STREET PARKING. SO WE'VE DEVELOPED ON STREET PARKING IN THE CUL DE SAC SO THAT WE CAN KEEP TRAFFIC FLOW GOING, WALKING THINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS A HEAVILY WOODED AREA. SO THE TREES, THE MATURE TREES WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. THAT SO IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT FOR US. IT'S BEEN SINCE 1923, BUT IT'S COMING TO THIS DATE AND WE WANT TO KNOW AND LET YOU KNOW. AS A COUNCIL, WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT TO BRING THIS PROJECT FORWARD. AND HOPEFULLY IN ABOUT THREE YEARS FROM THIS DATE, WE'LL PUT THE KEYS IN THE FIRST RESIDENT OVER THERE AND WELCOME NEW NEIGHBORS. ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. AND I WANT TO THANK CITY MANAGER AND HER ENTIRE TEAM FOR WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AGAIN. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. I'M GLAD TO BE ABLE TO BE THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY, CONTINUE TO GET THIS DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT, AND THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST PULL ZONING ITEM, [Z5. 25-2682A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Planned Development District No. 988, on property bounded by West Wheatland Road, McKissick Lane, Algebra Drive, and Indian Ridge Trail Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to an amended development plan, amended landscape plan, amended traffic management plan, and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to an amended development plan, amended landscape plan, amended traffic management plan, and conditions Z245-152(TB) / Z-25-000002] ITEM Z FIVE. LET ME PULL THAT UP ONE SECOND. ITEM Z FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 988 ON PROPERTY BOUNDED BY WEST WHEATLAND ROAD, MCKISSACK LANE, ALGEBRA DRIVE, AND INDIAN RIDGE TRAIL. MR. MAYOR. WE SEND 114 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND SIX REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z5? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION ITEM Z5. YES, MR. MAYOR. IN THE MATTER OF ITEM Z5Z245152, I APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY COUNCIL WITH AMENDMENTS TO PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS, THE RECOMMENDED SUBJECT TO THE REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE. EACH OF THE FOLLOWING PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES MUST BE PROVIDED ON SCHOOL PROPERTY ALONG WHEATLAND ROAD, AS SHOWN IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. NUMBER ONE, THERE MUST BE TWO BUNCHES. NUMBER TWO, THERE MUST BE TWO TRASH RECEPTACLES. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MISS BLAIR? JUST REAL QUICK. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THIS IS AT CARTER HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS RIGHT. RIGHT. AT WHEATLAND AND INDIAN RIDGE. INDIAN RIDGE IS REALLY NARROW STREET. I TOOK OFF. A BENCH ON INDIAN RIDGE BECAUSE THERE WERE. THERE'S A FENCE RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THE ONLY PLACE YOU COULD PUT THE BENCH AND THE THE TRASH CAN WOULD HAVE BEEN ON. THE ACTUAL SIDEWALK. THE SAME THING ON WHEATLAND. I ASKED THE BENCH AND THE TWO BENCHES, ONE ON EACH CORNER, TO BE PUSHED FURTHER BACK SO THAT. THE THE USERS OF THE BENCH AND THE TRASH RECEPTACLES WOULD ACTUALLY BE THE STUDENTS AS WELL AS THE THE PARENTS OR TEACHERS INSTEAD OF ANYBODY JUST HAPPENING BY AND CAUSING MORE HARM THAN GOOD. SO WITH THAT, I'M ASKING MY COLLEAGUES TO APPROVE THIS. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ZONING ITEM Z5? AS YOU HEARD IT, READ INTO THE RECORD BY MISS BLAIR. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS Z 13. [Z13. 25-2622A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new specific use permit for a paraphernalia shop on property zoned Planned Development District No. 810, on the northeast corner of North Cockrell Hill Road and I-30 Frontage Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a site plan and staff’s recommended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a five-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z-25-000081] ITEM Z 13 IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PARAPHERNALIA SHOP ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF NORTH COCKRELL HILL ROAD IN I-30 FRONTAGE ROAD. MR. MAYOR, WE SENT SIX NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 13. [04:10:08] NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION Z 13, FOLKS? YEAH. FOR Z 13 I MOVED TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE. THE SCP IS APPROVED FOR A THREE YEAR PERIOD. IS THERE A OKAY? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED DISCUSSION. MR. CADENA, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES OR SO. YEAH, SO FIVE MINUTES. THIS BRINGS THIS BUSINESS INTO COMPLIANCE. AND THE THREE YEARS WAS WAS ASKED FOR BY THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY CAN SEE HOW THIS BUSINESS OPERATES. THANKS. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST ZONING? MS 13. AS YOU HEARD IT READ BY MISS CADENA. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. ITEM FF ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS REGARDING A CITY PLAN COMMISSION AUTHORIZED HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROPRIATE SIGN [PH1. 25-2623A A public hearing to receive comments regarding a City Plan Commission Authorized Hearing to consider appropriate sign regulations contained in Divisions 51A-7.900 Downtown Special Provision Sign District (SPSD), 51A-7.1200 Arts District SPSD, and 51A-7.2100 Arts District Extension Area SPSD of the Dallas Development Code with consideration to be given to amending and expanding the Arts District SPSD and with consideration to be given to repealing or modifying the Arts District Extension SPSD and a portion of the Downtown SPSD, in an area bounded by Woodall Rodgers Freeway, Routh Street, Ross Avenue, Saint Paul Street, San Jacinto Street, and North Central Expressway and an ordinance granting (1) repeal of a portion of the Downtown SPSD, limited to the Chase Tower Subdistrict; (2) repeal of the Arts District Extension Area SPSD; and (3) approval of amendments to and an expansion of the Arts District SPSD Recommendation of Staff: (1) Repeal a portion of the Downtown SPSD, limited to the Chase Tower Subdistrict; (2) repeal the Arts District Extension Area SPSD; and (3) approval of amendments to and an expansion of the Arts District SPSD Recommendation of CPC: (1) Repeal a portion of the Downtown SPSD, limited to the Chase Tower Subdistrict; (2) repeal the Arts District Extension Area SPSD; and (3) approval of amendments to and an expansion of the Arts District SPSD SPSD189-010(OA)] REGULATIONS CONTAINED IN DIVISIONS 51, A 7.900 DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC DOWNTOWN SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN. DISTRICT 50 1A-7.1200 ARTS DISTRICT S AND 50 1A-7.2100 ARTS DISTRICT EXTENSION AREA S OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, WITH CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO AMENDING AND EXPANDING THE ARTS DISTRICT S, AND WITH CONSIDERATION TO BE GIVEN TO REPEALING OR MODIFYING THE ARTS DISTRICT EXTENSION S AND A PORTION OF THE DOWNTOWN S IN AN AREA BOUNDED BY WOODALL, RODGERS FREEWAY, RUTH STREET, ROSS AVENUE, SAINT PAUL STREET, SAN JACINTO STREET, AND NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING ONE REPEAL OF A PORTION OF THE DOWNTOWN IS LIMITED TO THE CHASE TOWER SUBDISTRICT. TWO REPEAL OF THE ARTS DISTRICT EXTENSION AREA, AND THREE APPROVAL OF AMENDMENTS TO AND AN EXPANSION OF THE ARTS DISTRICT. YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. MISS LILY KABUTA WEISS. THERE WE GO. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M LILY WEISS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DALLAS ARTS DISTRICT. 750 NORTH SAINT PAUL STREET, SUITE 1630. SINCE I JOINED THE DALLAS ARTS DISTRICT IN 2016, IT HAS BEEN THE VISION OF THE BOARD TO UPDATE THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND LOOK FORWARD TO A MORE ACCESSIBLE, ACTIVE DISTRICT WITH A DISTINCT SENSE OF PLACE. THIS IS AN AMAZING NEIGHBORHOOD COMPRISED OF CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, BOTH MUSEUMS, A GALLERY AND PERFORMING ARTS INSTITUTIONS, BUSINESSES, RESIDENCES, HISTORIC CHURCHES, HOTELS, AND EVEN A WORLD RENOWNED HIGH SCHOOL. IN EARLY 2021, CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED OUR MASTER PLAN AND AMENDMENTS TO PD ONE, 45 AND 708. TODAY'S AMENDMENT OF THE SPECIAL PROVISION ZONING DISTRICT IS THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS TO ALIGN OUR ORDINANCES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CURRENT NEEDS AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL TO STAFF, ESPECIALLY OSCAR AGUILERA, SCOTT ROPER AND JASON POOLE, FOR WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH US ON THIS PROCESS TO UPDATE OUR SIGN ORDINANCE, AND WE'RE ALWAYS APPRECIATIVE TO THE TEAM IN DISTRICT 14, PARTICULARLY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND D14 STAFF. THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WAS THOROUGHLY VETTED BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND APPROVED BY OUR ORGANIZATION'S INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE. IT ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF DEI AND THEIR THREE 60 PLAN. THE DRAFT BEFORE YOU TODAY ACHIEVES THREE PRIMARY GOALS. IT EXPANDS THE AREA TO MATCH THE UNDERLYING PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS PD 145 AND PD 708. IT CONSOLIDATES THE SUBDISTRICTS INTO ONE UNIFIED ORDINANCE FOR SIMPLICITY AND COHESION, AND CONSIDERS ALL THE APPLICABLE DESIGN TYPES THAT EXIST IN THE DISTRICT TODAY, AND THAT WE FEEL WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND PLACEMAKING. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS MORE EFFICIENT AND CLEAR SIGNED ORDINANCE IN PLACE, WORKING AS A NEIGHBORHOOD TO CONTINUE TO BE A MARQUEE DESTINATION FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM. ITEM ONE. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. [04:15:03] IS THERE A MOTION ON PAGE ONE? YES. LET'S HEAR IT, MR. RIDLEY. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY CPC. AND I HAVE COMMENTS. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE THIS ITEM APPEAR ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF EFFORTS THAT EXTEND BACK AT LEAST TWO YEARS THAT WERE INTENDED AND THE PURPOSE WAS TO IMPLEMENT A PORTION OF THE COUNCIL APPROVED MASTER PLAN FOR THE ARTS DISTRICT THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2021. AND I WANT TO PERSONALLY COMMEND MISS WEISS AS FOR HER LEADERSHIP OF THE ARTS DISTRICT'S EFFORT TO BRING TOGETHER A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS AND THE STAFF TO WRITE THESE AMENDMENTS TO THE SINDH DISTRICT ORDINANCE, AND FOR ACHIEVING THE CONSENSUS THAT SHE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN ACHIEVING AMONGST THOSE STAKEHOLDERS. SO I AM VERY PLEASED THAT THIS LONG TERM EFFORT THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS IS COMING TO FRUITION, AND I RECOMMEND IT FOR YOUR APPROVAL. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? ON PAGE ONE. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. ITEM TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON A PROPOSED MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION TO [PH2. 25-2672A A public hearing to receive comments on a proposed municipal setting designation to prohibit the use of groundwater as potable water beneath property owned by 8605 Carpenter No. 19, LLC generally located near the intersection of John Carpenter Freeway and Profit Drive; and an ordinance authorizing support of the issuance of a municipal setting designation to 8605 Carpenter No. 19, LLC by the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality and prohibiting the use of groundwater beneath the designated property as potable water - Financing: No cost consideration to the City Recommendation of Staff: Approval] PROHIBIT THE USE OF GROUNDWATER AS POTABLE WATER BENEATH PROPERTY OWNED BY 80 605 CARPENTER NUMBER 19, LLC, GENERALLY LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF JOHN CARPENTER FREEWAY AND PROPHET DRIVE. AND AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING SUPPORT OF THE ISSUANCE OF A MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION TO. EIGHT. SIX. ZERO. FIVE. CARPENTER. CARPENTER. NUMBER 19, LLC BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND PROHIBITING THE USE OF GROUNDWATER BENEATH THE DESIGNATED PROPERTY AS POTABLE WATER. I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT. PURSUANT TO SECTION 51, A 6.1 08G3 OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE APPLICANT OR LICENSED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH THE APPLICATION MUST BE PRESENT AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JASON MINTER. I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF MODERN GEOSCIENCES. IS THAT BETTER, MA'AM? MY NAME IS JASON MINTER. I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF MODERN GEOSCIENCES. WE ARE THE CONSULTANT FOR THE MSD APPLICANT. AND MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU. AND I SEE THAT YOU REGISTERED. SO YOU DON'T. THIS IS CONSIDERED SPEAKING. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM TWO? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? FF TWO MEMBERS FF TWO. MAYBE MISS CADENA, MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE. THAT SOUND GOOD TO LEGAL? THAT SOUND GOOD? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON, FOR SAVING THE DAY ON THAT ONE. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS FF THREE. [PH3. 25-2694A A public hearing, pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code, to receive comments on the proposed use of a portion of parkland at Judge Charles R. Rose Community Park located at 3200 Simpson Stuart Road, totaling approximately 330,341 square feet (7.58 acres) of land, for three Sidewalk and Utility Easements, one Floodway Easement, one Water Easement, and one Right-of-way Easement for the Judge Charles R. Rose Community Park plat, as required by plat; and, at the close of the public hearing, consideration of a resolution authorizing the proposed use of parkland pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code – Financing: No cost consideration to the City] ITEM FF THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE. TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED USE OF A PORTION OF PARKLAND AT JUDGE CHARLES R ROSE COMMUNITY PARK, LOCATED AT 3200 SIMPSON STEWART ROAD, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 330,341FT², 7.58 ACRES OF LAND FOR THREE SIDEWALK AND UTILITY EASEMENTS, ONE FLOODWAY EASEMENT, ONE WATER EASEMENT, AND ONE RIGHT OF WAY EASEMENT FOR THE JUDGE CHARLES ROSE COMMUNITY PARK PLAT AS REQUIRED BY PLAT AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PROPOSED USE OF PARKLAND PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM THREE? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION ITEM? PAGE THREE. YES, SIR. YES, MR. MAYOR. I MOVED TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? MR. BLAIR AND DISCUSSION. ANYONE SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. [04:20:01] NEXT ITEM. ITEM FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED USE OF A [PH4. 25-2766A A public hearing, pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code, to receive comments on the proposed use of a portion of parkland LB Houston Nature Area, located at 10401 Wildwood Drive, totaling approximately 64,749 square feet (1.49 acres) of land and temporary use of approximately 82,692 square feet (1.90 acres) of land, by Trinity River Authority for the construction of a 30-inch Reuse Water line for the DCURD 30-Inch Reuse Water Line Project, for the public benefit; and, at the close of the public hearing, consideration of a resolution authorizing the proposed use of parkland pursuant to Chapter 26 of the Texas Parks and Wildlife Code – Estimated Revenue: Capital Gifts Match Donations and Development Fund $40,345.00] PORTION OF PARKLAND. L.B. HOUSTON NATURE AREA, LOCATED AT 10401 WILDWOOD DRIVE, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 64,749FT², 1.49 ACRES OF LAND, AND TEMPORARY USE OF APPROXIMATELY 82,692FT². 1.9 ACRES OF LAND BY TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A 30 INCH REUSED WATER LINE FOR THE DECKARD DECKARD 30 INCH REUSE WATER LINE PROJECT FOR THE PUBLIC BENEFIT, AND, AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE PROPOSED USE OF PARKLAND PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 26 OF THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE CODE. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM FOUR? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON PAGE FOUR. MAYBE, MISS STEWART, I DON'T KNOW. CHAIR ANYBODY? I BELIEVE I WOULD MOVE TO CLOSE THE HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE ITEM. SOUNDS GOOD. IS THERE A SECOND? I THINK I HEARD ONE, ALL RIGHT. MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. MADAM SECRETARY. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS MEETING. HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS LEFT ON YOUR AGENDA. WONDERFUL. LET'S HEAR THEM. OKAY. I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. [OPEN MICROPHONE (Part 2 of 2)] SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM, AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON. FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THOSE IN PERSON. SPEAKERS. YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON. ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER. WANDA SOMERS. GOOD AFTERNOON. I PREPARED SOME HANDOUTS SO THAT, AS THEY SAY, A PICTURE'S WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. THIS CONCERNS SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE CONSIDERED LANDLOCKED ALONG EAST 11TH STREET. THOSE LOTS ARE 2310 AND 2306 EAST 11TH STREET. AND IT ALSO AFFECTS THE PROPERTIES AT 310 AVENUE H AND 311 AVENUE G. THESE LOTS ARE DESIGNED TO HAVE A ZONING SETBACKS OF 20 FOOT FRONT SETBACKS, FIVE FOOT FOUR SIDES AND REARS, AND NOT TO BE MORE THAN 30FT TALL. I'LL COVER MORE THAN 45% OF THE CLOTS. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THIS PERSON HAS VIOLATED SOME VERY SERIOUS THINGS, AS I'M CONCERNED. THERE IS NO PUBLIC ACCESS AT THE FRONT OF THESE LOTS, THAT THERE IS A TEN FOOT, ABOUT A TEN FOOT RETAINING WALL THAT GOES ACROSS THE FRONT OF THESE THREE LOTS, WHICH IS 23, 14, 2310 AND 2306. THERE IS NO WAY FOR OUR FIRST LINE DEFENSES TO TO APPROACH THOSE HOMES FROM THE FRONT. THERE'S NO WAY FOR THE POLICE OR THE FIRE OR THE POST OFFICE TO APPROACH THOSE PROPERTIES FROM THE FRONT. ONCE I HAVE CONTACTED BUILDING INSPECTION, I TALKED WITH THE SUPERIOR FOR ZONING WHO REFERRED ME TO CODE, AND THIS IS WHAT HAS COME ABOUT. ONCE I DID MY RESEARCH, I FOUND THAT THE FOLLOWING THINGS SHOULD HAVE OCCURRED BEFORE ANY PLAN WAS APPROVED OR ANY PERMITS WERE ISSUED. AND THIS COMES FROM CITY STAFF THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A PRIVATE DRIVE BEHIND THESE PROPERTIES, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE LANDLOCKED, BECAUSE THERE IS NO ACCESS TO EAST 11TH STREET. WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED IS THEY SHOULD HAVE OBTAINED AN ATTORNEY. THAT ATTORNEY WOULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT THE AREA THAT WAS GOING TO BE DESIGNATED AS A PRIVATE DRIVE BE SURVEYED, [04:25:09] AND THAT THE ENGINEER WOULD ALSO HAVE TO LAY OUT A DRIVE REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THE FIRE TRUCKS AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT RESPOND TO OUR CALLS HAVE A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT FOR THAT BASE. BECAUSE THEY ARE SO HIGH, THEY'RE SO HIGH, AND THEIR RATE IS SO MUCH. THE NEXT THING THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED WAS THAT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEONE APPOINTED TO PROVIDE MAINTENANCE FOR THAT PRIVATE DRIVE. THAT HASN'T HAPPENED. THE PRIVATE ATTORNEY SHOULD HAVE AT THAT TIME, APPROACHED THE CITY ATTORNEY AND PROVIDED THE CITY ATTORNEY WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE INFORMATION. THEY SHOULD HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT, AND A DRIVE AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN SIGNED. I CAN'T FIND ONE. THEN THAT AGREEMENT MUST BE FILED WITH THE COUNTY COURT OF RECORDS, WHICH LEAVES THE CITY AT LIABILITY. BECAUSE WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN YOUR STREET? IT'S NOT A STREET OR AN ALLEY. IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVE. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. JOSHUA. PANIC! JOSHUA, PANIC IS NOT PRESENT. JOSE FLORES. MR. FLORES HAS REQUESTED A TRANSLATOR, AND I. WE DO HAVE A TRANSLATOR FOR MR. FLORES. IT WOULD BE JUAN CARPIO FROM OLANGO TRANSLATIONS. OKAY. HI. I'M JUAN CARPIO, THE SPANISH INTERPRETER FOR MR. FLORES. THANK YOU. PLEASE. READY? YES. SENORAS MIEMBROS DE EL GOBIERNO DE LA CIUDAD. ES UN HONOR PARA ESTAR AQUI ESTA TARDE. GOOD AFTERNOON TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY. IT IS A HONOR FOR ME TO BE IN YOUR PRESENCE. JOSE LUIS FLORES DE MÉXICO. PERO EN EL NORTE DE TEXAS DESDE HACE MAS DE VEINTE ANOS. MY NAME IS JOSE FLORES. I AM AN IMMIGRANT FROM MEXICO, BUT I RESIDE IN THE NORTH OF TEXAS FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. ESTAR AQUI EN ESTE LUGAR DONDE SE ESCUCHA A LA GENTE SE RESPETAN SUS DERECHOS. I REPEAT THAT IT IS AN HONOR FOR ME TO BE AT THIS PLACE WHERE YOU LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE AND YOU RESPECT THEIR RIGHTS. LAMENTABLEMENTE SON PRINCIPAL AQUI ES SOY ACTIVISTA COMUNITARIO REPRESENTA A LA ORGANIZACION COALICION DE ORGANIZACIONES MEXICANAS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE MAIN REASON WHY I'M HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE I AM A PUBLIC COMMUNITY ACTIVIST, AND I REPRESENT THE GROUP CALLED COALITION, THE ORGANIZACIONES MEXICANAS. IT'S A MEXICAN ORGANIZATIONS COALITION. NUESTRO RESPETO EN UN EVENTO IMPORTANT QUEREMOS LLEVAR A CABO EN ESTA CIUDAD. AND OUR RIGHTS WERE NOT RESPECTED FOR A VERY IMPORTANT EVENT THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE PLACE HERE. IN DONDE SE DICE LA VERDAD Y LIBERTAD DE EXPRESION. I AM REFERRING TO THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT REFERS TO THE RIGHT TO CONGREGATE, TO GET TOGETHER A FREE SPEECH TO EXPRESS YOURSELF. SOMOS NOSOTROS EL EVENTO MAS GRANDE DE TODOS LOS MEXICANOS. EL MAS GRANDE. QUIERO SER EL MAS GRANDE. EL GRITO DE INDEPENDENCIA DE MÉXICO. THE EVENT THAT WE WERE ORGANIZING WAS THE BIGGEST ONE FOR MEXICAN PEOPLE. AND I WANT TO REPEAT, TO REITERATE THIS, THE BIGGEST ONE IS EL GRITO DE INDEPENDENCIA, THE CRY OF INDEPENDENCE. VARIOUS ORGANIZACIONES DE MIGRANTES. NOSOTROS ESTAMOS PARA. PARA HACERLO COMO SE HACE EN NUESTRO PAIS. SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS OF IMMIGRANTS GOT TOGETHER TO ORGANIZE THIS AND BRING CIVILITY TO THIS EVENT. THE WAY IT IS DONE IN MEXICO. IN ESTA CIUDAD. DONDE ES UNA VENTAJA VIVIR AQUI. PORQUE LA CIUDAD TODOS LOS MIGRANTES VIVIMOS AQUI NO PODEMOS OLVIDAR LOS MIGRANTES, NO PODEMOS OLVIDAR NUESTRAS RAICES Y NUESTRA CULTURA IN THIS CITY WHERE YOU KNOW IT IS AN ADVANTAGE, A GREAT THING TO LIVE IN THIS CITY BECAUSE THE CITY PROTECTS THE IMMIGRANTS. WE CANNOT FORGET WHO WE ARE. WE CANNOT FORGET OUR IMMIGRANT ROOTS. SOMOS JUNTO CON LAS AUTORIDADES DEL CONSULADO MEXICANO DECIDIMOS ORGANIZER ES IMPORTANTE RESPETANDO LAS REGLAS DE LA CIUDAD DE LOS PERMISOS A TIEMPO Y HABLANDO CON LOS DEPARTAMENTOS INVOLUCRADOS. WE COORDINATED WITH THE MEXICAN CONSULATE TO ORGANIZE THIS EVENT, AND WE MADE SURE TO SPEAK, [04:30:05] TO FOLLOW THE PROPER AVENUES TO REQUEST THE REQUIRED PERMISSIONS. SO WE WENT TO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE NEEDED TO PARA TODOS LOS MEXICANOS DEL NORTE DE TEXAS. PERO ADEMAS, INVITAMOS A LOS DOS SENADORES DE LA REPUBLICA DE MÉXICO DEL GOBIERNO DE MÉXICO, SENADORES DALLAS VAN A ESTAR AQUI CON NOSOTROS. WE ARE THE INVITATION. THE CALL WAS FOR EVERY SINGLE MEXICAN CITIZEN WHO RESIDES IN NORTH TEXAS. BUT ALSO WE INVITED TWO SENATORS. THESE ARE TWO MEMBERS OF THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT TO BE HERE. EL MEXICANO MIEMBROS DEL GOBIERNO ESTATAL Y ALGUNOS MIEMBROS DE ESTE CONCILIO FUERON INVITADOS A ESTE EVENTO IMPORTANTE. SO THE MEXICAN CONSULATE, MEMBERS OF THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THIS VERY COUNCIL WERE INVITED FOR TO THIS EVENT. REPITO HABLAMOS CON LAS AUTORIDADES VIMOS EL DEPARTAMENTO DE EVENTOS ESPECIALES, HABLAMOS AL DEPARTAMENTO DE POLICIA Y TODOS LOS PERMISOS REQUIEREN NO ES LA PRIMERA VEZ HACEMOS EVENTOS. AND I REPEAT WE CAME TO TO GET THE PERMISSION WE SPOKE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF SPECIAL EVENTS. WE WENT TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE OBTAIN ALL THE PERMISSIONS NEEDED. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE ORGANIZING AN EVENT OF THIS TYPE. IN LA PAGINA DEL DEPARTAMENTO DE EVENTOS ESPECIALES, USTEDES LO PUEDEN VER AHI ESTA PROGRAMADO PARA ATKINS DE SEPTIEMBRE DE LA TARDE. AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THIS EVENT IS STILL ON THE DALLAS WEBSITE. THE CITY OF DALLAS CALENDAR. IF YOU GO TO SEPTEMBER THE 15TH, YOU CAN CHECK THAT EVENT IS SCHEDULED THERE. SIN EMBARGO, EL EVENTO NOSOTROS LLEGAMOS AQUI AFUERA PORQUE EL EVENTO DEL CITY HALL Y DESPLAZADOS FUIMOS CORRIDOS POR EL DEPARTAMENTO DE POLICIA. HOWEVER, AT THE START OF THIS EVENT, ON THAT DAY WE ARRIVED. WE WERE OUTSIDE HERE IN THE CIRCLE AREA AND WE WERE BASICALLY KICKED OUT. WE WERE ASKED TO. TO LEAVE. TO DEPART. QUIERO REPETIR REUNIDOS TODOS LOS REQUISITOS. EL MISMO SENOR DEL DEPARTAMENTO DE POLICIA. EL SENOR. DARREN. DARREN BRANCH, DETECTIVE DE LA POLICIA DE DALLAS Y LA MISMA PERSONA. PERMISO. NOSOTROS PARA HACER EL EVENTO Y FUE EL MISMO PERSONAJE VINO CORREO DE FRENTE DE LA PLAZA CON TODAS LAS PERSONAS INVITADOS. AND I WANT TO REPEAT THAT WE DID OBTAIN ALL THE NEEDED PERMITS, ALL THE PERMISSIONS, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MR. DARREN BRANCH, HE WAS THE PERSON, HE'S THE CHIEF DETECTIVE, AND HE WAS THE PERSON WHO CAME TO ASK US TO LEAVE. OBVIAMENTE OFENSA MUY GRANDE PARA TODAS LAS PERSONAS GRACEY NUESTROS ORIGENES ES UNA GRAN PARA TODOS LOS MEXICANOS. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SOMETHING VERY OFFENSIVE. IT'S A HUGE OFFENSE TO ALL THE MEXICANS WHO ARE CLAIMING THEIR ORIGINS. BUT RESPETAR EL TIEMPO SOLO QUIERO RESUMIR. QUÉ NOSOTROS YA YA YA HICIMOS GRITAR Y TODO PORQUE NUESTROS HIJOS FUERON FRUSTRADA. JUST TO RESPECT THE TIME WE WANT TO MAKE. MAKE SURE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ALREADY GOT MAD UPSET. WE CRY, WE SCREAM AND WE, YOU KNOW WE WERE ANGRY. SIN EMBARGO. THANK YOU. ANTES DE HACER PROTESTAS VOY A DECIR DISCULPE. ONLY THIS IS THE VERY LAST THING I'M GONNA SAY. I'M SORRY. PROTESTAS RECLAMOS VENIMOS DE LA MANERA MAS SENCILLA SOBRE EL DIALOGO CON LAS AUTORIDADES. PARA QUÉ ES LO OK? TENEMOS QUÉ HACER PARA HACER TOMADOS EN CUENTA? SO INSTEAD OF PROTESTING OR, YOU KNOW, JUST COMPLAINING, WE WANT TO COME IN THE MOST HUMBLE AND MOST CIVIL WAY TO TALK TO YOU, HOPEFULLY TO OPEN A DIALOG AND TO FIGHT AND TO LEARN THE BEST WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. VICKI COLEMAN. VICKI COLEMAN IS NOT ONLINE AND NOT IN THE AUDIENCE. NOT PRESENT. CAROL MCGEHEE. I'M SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR LAST NAME. MCGOUGH. THANK YOU. NOBODY GETS IT RIGHT. A LITTLE BIT MORE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CAROL MCCOY. I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 26 YEARS. I'M A RETIRED SCHOOL TEACHER. I'M A PROUD DALLAS ISD TEACHER. I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL TODAY. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE DALLAS WINGS AND OF COURSE, DALLAS TRINITY FC. [04:35:03] WE LOVE GOING TO THE GAMES, SO WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT FOR THAT. THAT IS NOT WHY I'M HERE. I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY A DONE DEAL, BUT I'M HERE ABOUT THE TRASH AND RECYCLING IN THE ALLEYS. I SENT IN SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. MANY OF THE HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK THIS WAY. WE HAVE A VERY STEEP FRONT YARD STEPS DOWN THE FRONT. THERE'S TWO OF US IN THE HOME. WE'RE BOTH WOMEN. WE'RE BOTH OVER 60 YEARS OLD. IT WOULD BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO GET OUR RECYCLING AND OUR TRASH DOWN TO THE FRONT. THERE'S AN ELDERLY WOMAN THAT WE KNOW DOWN THE STREET. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET HER TRASH AND RECYCLING DOWN, DOWN TO THE FRONT. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY HILLY, AND SO IT DOES CREATE A CHALLENGE. WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 2014, WE PLANNED ON STAYING THERE UNTIL WE WERE GONE. SO WE DID SOME REMODELING TO ENSURE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INVESTIGATE OUR HOME AS WE AGED. ONE REASON WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE WAS BECAUSE OF HOW EASY IT WAS TO GET THE TRASH AND THE RECYCLING OUT. OUR BACKYARD IS FLAT, SO BEING ABLE TO DO THAT VERY, VERY SIMPLE AND AS WE GOT OLDER, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS WITH THE SECOND HOUSE FROM THE END OF THE BLOCK. AND THEN ON THE ALLEY SIDE WHERE WE LIVE IS A VERY STEEP DROP. IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO GO THE OPPOSITE WAY, ALL THE WAY DOWN. TEN HOUSES AROUND THE BLOCK, ALL THE WAY BACK DOWN. TEN MORE HOUSES JUST TO PUT OUR TRASH AND RECYCLING OUT, AND THEN HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO THAT AGAIN. AND I CAN'T IMAGINE HAVING TO DO THAT DURING THE WINTERTIME. IT CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE SAFE FOR US AND FOR MANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THE ALLEYS BECAUSE OF THE TREES AND OTHER OBSTACLES. I WOULD THINK THAT CODE COMPLIANCE ALL OF THESE YEARS WOULD HAVE BEEN GOING AROUND AND CHECKING ON THE OBSTACLES IN THE ALLEYS. IN FACT, I CALLED CODE A FEW YEARS AGO AND ASKED THEM TO COME OUT BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTIES. THEY CAME OUT, THEY SAID EVERYTHING WAS IN COMPLIANCE. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T THINK THEY CAME OUT. IT WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE, I DROPPED IT. MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT ARE THE CITIZENS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS GOING TO DO ABOUT OUR TRASH AND RECYCLING WHEN WE CANNOT GET THEM DOWN TO THE FRONT? SO ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT YOU TAKE EACH NEIGHBORHOOD AND EACH ALLEY INTO CONSIDERATION. I'M WONDERING IF ANYBODY ACTUALLY WENT OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT THESE ALLEYS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF HARDSHIPS IT WAS GOING TO PUT FOR THE CITIZENS OF OF DALLAS. THERE HAS TO BE SOME EXCEPTIONS. SO I'M ASKING, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY A DONE DEAL, TO PLEASE RECONSIDER, GO BACK AND LOOK AT THESE AREAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE OUR TRASH AND OUR RECYCLING OUT SAFELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ESTHER GONZALEZ. MR. GONZALEZ IS NOT ONLINE AND NOT IN THE AUDIENCE. IT'S NOT PRESENT. LISA LAVELLE IS NOT ONLINE OR IN THE AUDIENCE. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING. DOES IT CONCLUDE THE MEETING? YES, IT DOES, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IT'S 3:30 P.M., EVERYONE. AND THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS FOR THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE HEREBY ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EVERYONE STAY SAFE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.