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DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SIMS, DISTRICT TWO.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT PRESENT, DISTRICT FOUR.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, DISTRICT FIVE, VACANT.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, REAGAN, DISTRICT EIGHT.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT HERE.
DISTRICT 11, COMMISSIONER COX, DISTRICT 12.
COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN, DISTRICT 13 COMMISSIONER HALL.
DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBIN, I'M HERE.
THIS IS THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT'S OCTOBER 9TH, 2025 AT 9:15 AM UM, JUST A BRIEF HOUSEKEEPING NOTE.
WE DO HAVE A FEW NEW MEMBERS WHOSE, UH, APPOINTMENTS ARE RECENTLY APPROVED BY COUNSEL.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEIR PAPERWORK AND OATHS OFFICE ARE STILL, UM, IN THE WORK, SO THEY WILL LIKELY JOIN US AT THE NEXT MEETING ONCE ALL OF THAT IS COMPLETED.
UM, THAT DOES MEAN THAT WE ARE TIGHT FOR QUORUM PURPOSES TODAY.
SO PLEASE JUST TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, UM, AS WE PROCEED THROUGHOUT, UM, OUR AGENDA, UM, AND WE WILL DIVE INTO OUR BRIEFINGS.
JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ASK, ASK STAFF QUESTIONS, UM, ANY, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION OR DEBATE OF THE ITEMS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE AFTERNOON.
UM, OUR FIRST ITEM, WE HAVE A MISCELLANEOUS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
DOES ANYONE WANT THAT BRIEFED? ALRIGHT, I THINK WE CAN FOREGO THE BRIEFING OF, UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE.
UM, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER TWO.
NEED BRIEFING? DOES ANYONE WANT NUMBER TWO BRIEFED? ALRIGHT, NUMBER THREE.
DO WE WANT THAT BRIEFED? I BELIEVE THAT IS COMING OFF CONSENT BRIEF.
THIS IS, UH, LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
UM, WE JUST GOT WORD THAT THE DISTRICT NINE, UH, NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSIONER HAS TURNED IN, UM, ALL THE REQUISITE PAPERWORK.
UM, SO EVERYONE SAY GOODBYE TO MR. SLEEPER,
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SLEEPER.
AND WE, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING TO FORMALLY RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY AND THE PLAN COMMISSION.
UH, WE DO, WE WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
UM, STILL SO WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL GOOD.
SO JUST TO ECHO THE CHAIR, WE'RE GONNA BE ON QUORUM WATCH TODAY.
SO IF I COULD, UM, ASK EVERYONE TO DO US A FAVOR BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE ROOM, IF WE'RE IN SESSION, PLEASE DO, UH, DO A, A QUICK COUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA LOSE QUORUM.
DO WE NEED THREE OR FOUR? THE VIDEO BOARD SIGNS BRIEFED QUESTION.
THEY'RE BOTH OFF CONSENT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED THEM BRIEFED.
DO WE WANT THAT ONE BRIEFED? YES, SIR.
THIS IS ITEM FIVE, CASE Z 25 1 30.
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UH, IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR DA DUPLEX DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE R 75, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LOUISIANA AVENUE AND SEAS AVENUE EAST OF BECKLEY AVENUE.ABOUT 23,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE, UH, LOCATED DOWN HERE IN OAK CLIFF.
THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT SITE, UM, AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
SO SUBJECT SITES SURROUND OR OUTLINED IN YELLOW.
THIS IS SHOWING THE SURROUNDING ZONING.
SO CURRENTLY IN R SEVEN FIVE ON THE BORDERLINE WITH A CR DISTRICT THAT RUNS UP AND DOWN BECKLEY.
UM, THEN TO THE SOUTH YOU DO HAVE A DA DISTRICT, UH, CURRENTLY VACANT, UH, TO THE WEST YOU HAVE CS AS WELL.
UH, SO PREDOMINANTLY THERE'S, I WOULD SAY PREDOMINANTLY TO THE NORTH AND EAST.
AND THEN IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE SITE THERE ARE WHAT I THINK IS CURRENTLY A SINGLE FAMILY, BUT THAT IS ZONED CR UH, AND THEN AROUND HERE ON AUTOMATICALLY YOU GOT RESTAURANTS AND OTHER UH, USES.
THEY WISH TO DEVELOP IT WITH DUPLEXES AND AS SUCH THEY'RE REQUESTING THE DA ZONING.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH A FEW PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
HERE WE ARE ON SEAVERS LOOKING WEST.
THIS IS AT THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY THAT SEPARATES IT FROM THE LOTS TO THE SOUTH, WHICH ARE ZONED CR NORTHWEST AT THE SITE ITSELF NORTH, THEN NORTHEAST HOUSING ACROSS THE WAY TO THE EAST, THEN TO THE SOUTHWEST, WEST AND NORTH, NORTHEAST, THEN HERE AT THE CORNER OF RECEIVERS IN LOUISIANA, LOOKING AWAY FROM THE SITE, THEN DOWN LOUISIANA AND LOOKING WEST TOWARDS THAT CR AREA.
THIS IS A COMPARISON OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BETWEEN DA AND R SEVEN FIVE.
THE DA DOES HAVE THE SAME FRONT SETBACK AND THE SIDE SETBACKS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT OR SIDE AND REAR.
IF YOU WERE TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THEN IT WOULD BE A FIVE FOOT SETBACK ON ALL SIDES.
FOR A DUPLEX STRUCTURE, IT'S FIVE FEET ON THE SIDE AND 10 FEET ON THE REAR.
THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE DOES CHANGE.
IT GOES DOWN TO 6,000 SQUARE FEET FOR DUPLEX.
UH, THE HEIGHT IS 36 FEET RATHER THAN 30 AND THE LOT COVERAGE GOES TO 60%.
THE AREA IS DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH DOES INCLUDE DUPLEXES AS A PRIMARY USE.
THAT'S, IT'S WHAT WE CALL SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.
WITHIN THE FORWARD DALLAS LANGUAGE, THE SITE IS VACANT.
THERE'S AN ALLEYWAY AND REAR YARD THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE TO THE SOUTH.
AND AGAIN, I WANNA REITERATE THAT IS ZONED CR COMMUNITY, UH, RETAIL.
IT IS CLOSE TO LEA AND ADJACENT TO THE CR COMMUNITY.
RETAIL ZONING WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE DART BUS ROUTE 1 0 4, UH, DA WOULD NOT CREATE BLOCK FACE CONTINUITY ISSUES.
I KNOW SOMETIMES WE RUN INTO THAT WITH SOME NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WHEN THERE'S ZONED R FIVE, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A SMALLER FRONT YARD SETBACK.
UH, BUT IN THIS CASE IT'S R SEVEN FIVE.
SO THERE WOULD NOT BE BLOCK FACE CONTINUITY ISSUES CREATED THERE.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. HAMPTON? JUST ONE QUESTION, IF YOU'RE AWARE, HAD THERE BEEN ANY, UM, DISCUSSIONS, I THINK WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION.
UM, HAVE THERE IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH OR CONSIDERATION OF, UM, STANDARDS THAT WOULD, I KNOW SOMETIMES WE, UH, THINK ABOUT THINGS WHEN WE ADD DUPLEXES WITHIN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS TO MAINTAIN COMMUNITY CHARACTER.
WAS THAT REVIEWED AT ALL WITH OUR SUGGESTED WITH, UH, NO, THAT WAS NOT REVIEWED AND UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, UH, WHAT, WHAT COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR OUTREACH HAVE BEEN DONE, IF ANY.
AND NO DEED RESTRICTIONS WERE, UM, NO DEED RESTRICTIONS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED PROVIDED? NO.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY COLLEAGUES? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. BATE.
IT DOES AND IT DOES NEED TO BE BRIEFED, MR. BA.
IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PD 1113 ON THE EAST LINE OF NORTH WALTON WALKER BOULEVARD, NORTH OF WEST DAVIS STREET.
ABOUT 16 AND A HALF ACRES IN SIZE OVER HERE, THE FAR WESTERN PART OF THE CITY.
AND HERE'S AN AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE SITE.
UH, IF YOU NOTICE, IT KIND OF EXTENDS ALL THE WAY OUT IN HERE INTO WALTON WALKER BOULEVARD.
THAT'S HOW WE JUST DO OUR ZONING.
UH, GIS LAYERS AS REMEMBER ZONING GOES TO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
THE ZONING MAP, IT'S AN INTERESTING AREA WITH WALTON WALKER THERE.
UH, IT IS R SEVEN FIVE AROUND THE NORTH, EAST AND SOUTH.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME CS TO THE SOUTH AS WELL.
THE PORTION TO THE NORTHEAST, THERE'S A MIX OF LI AND AGRICULTURAL, AND IMMEDIATELY WEST IS MC ONE MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE MIXED USE, BUT JUST DOESN'T ALLOW RESIDENTIAL, UH, ON WALTON WALKER, NO LOOKING NORTH.
UH, SO THIS IS THE SITE, UM, IN QUESTION.
IT'S CURRENTLY BEING GRADED AND ENGINEERED, UH, LOOKING SOUTH ALONG WALTON WALKER AND I WANT TO POINT OUT AS WELL AS RETAINING WALL
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THAT'LL BE RELEVANT IN A MOMENT LOOKING WEST AWAY FROM THE SITE.AND THAT'S NOT LOOKING WEST, BUT I FORGOT TO UPDATE THAT PART.
THIS IS THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES PROPOSED TO IT.
UM, IT'S A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH LOOKS LIKE SEVEN BUILDINGS AND WITH ACCESS TO BOTH WALTON WALKER AS WELL AS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS TO TILLERY AVENUE, UH, THE REQUEST AND AMENDMENTS.
SO THERE'S BEEN A FEW CHANGES FROM WHAT WAS IN YOUR REPORT.
UH, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M BRIEFING TO YOU TODAY.
UH, THE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS ARE THAT THE LANGUAGE REGARDING STREET FACING FACADES, I BELIEVE IN THE REPORT WAS ORIGINALLY BEING STRUCK ENTIRELY, UH, INSTEAD THAT IT'S BEING CHANGED, THAT IT WOULD ONLY NOT APPLY TO THE WALTON WALKER BOULEVARD FRONTAGE.
UH, THE LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY IS THAT THEY ALMOST HAVE AT LEAST ONE WINDOW AND ONE COMMON PRIMARY ENTRANCE FACING THE STREET CONNECTED TO THE SIDEWALK.
UH, SO THAT WOULDN'T APPLY TO WALTON WALKER BOULEVARD.
AND THE INDIVIDUAL ENTRIES REQUIREMENT WHERE THE MINIMUM OF 60% OF STREET LEVEL UNITS MUST HAVE INDIVIDUAL ENTRIES FROM THE STREET, AGAIN, WOULD NOT APPLY TO THE WALTON WALKER.
UH, FRONTAGE, THE AMENDMENTS DON'T CHANGE THE ALLOWED USES, UH, THAT STREET CONNECTIVITY.
YOU KNOW, WE GENERALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE IT TO ACTIVATE THE PEDESTRIAN REALM.
WE SEE THIS IN MULTI-FAMILY PDS ALL THE TIME.
IT'S, I THINK, A GREAT INITIATIVE.
AND FOR THE MOST PART, THE LANGUAGE THERE MAKES SENSE FOR MOST OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, WALTON WALKER BOULEVARD IS NOT A PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR.
IT'S NOT ENVISIONED TO BE A PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR.
IF WE LOOK AT THE PHOTOS HERE, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS ANYWHERE ALONG WALTON WALKER AS IT IS.
UM, IF THIS WERE TO BE BUILT OUT, YOU WOULD HAVE SOME CONNECTIONS THERE.
BUT, UH, BY AND LARGE, THIS IS NOT REALLY A PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT.
AND IF YOU KIND OF GO BACK TO THE AERIALS HERE, UM, IN ORDER TO GET TO THE DART THAT'S OVER ON DAVIS, IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF THE OUT OF FRAME HERE, BUT PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY WALK ALONG TILLERY OR ALONG SOME OF THESE SIDE STREETS, WHICH ARE GOING TO BE CALMER, LESS INTIMIDATING, WALK ON.
UH, SO AS SUCH, THE STAFF DOES NOT FIND AN ISSUE WITH THAT AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? NO, NO QUESTIONS.
IT'LL BE AMENDED COMM UH, CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED.
AMENDED CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED.
I FORGOT TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER KINGSTON JOINED US AT 9 21.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, UM, LET'S SEE.
OUR NEXT THREE ARE DD SEVEN CASES.
UM, COMMISSIONER, LET LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER WHEELER, UH, JOINED US AT 9:27 AM.
UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU NEED NUMBER SEVEN? BRIEFED? I'VE BEEN ON FOR LIKE 15.
UH, MS HASHMI, NUMBER SEVEN, GOOD MORNING.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SUP 25 44 FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT, LIMITED TO A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN, AND A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL.
IT IS LOCATED ON PROPERTY ZONE FWMU THREE FORM SUBDISTRICT WITH A SHOP FRONT OVERLAY WITHIN PD 5 95.
LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF BOTTOM JEAN BOULEVARD, SOUTHEAST OF SOUTH BOULEVARD.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 22,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT IS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN AND UM, IN MAY, 2024, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THIS SUP, UH, FOR ONE YEAR WITH NO AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
UH, THE PROPERTIES, A SINGLE STORY BUILDING USED AS A BAR AND LAUNCH.
AND THE PURPOSE IS TO RENEW THIS SUP FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP HERE IS SURROUNDING ZONING AND LAND USES TOWARD, UH, NORTH, NORTHEAST, EAST, UNDEVELOPED, AND FURTHER IS PARK TOWARD, UH, WEST AND, UH, TOWARD WEST IS LOUNGE.
AND, UH, FURTHER IS, UM, UNDEVELOPED, UH, TOWARDS SOUTH SOUTHWEST IS UH, FILM STUDIO WAREHOUSE AND, UH, TOWARD EAST AND SOUTHEAST IS VEHICLE DISPLAY CELLS AND SERVICE.
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SOME, UH, SITE PHOTOS.UH, LOOKING AT SITE FROM BOTTOM GENE BOULEVARD, LOOKING AT SITE SIDE, LOOKING AT SIDE, LOOKING AT SITE FROM THE ALLEY AND, UH, SURROUNDING U USES LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
LOOKING AT THAT, UH, MOVIE STUDIOS LOOKING NORTH AT THE BAR AND LAUNCH, LOOKING NORTHEAST THE ALLEY, UH, UNDEVELOPED LAND AND THEN PARK, UH, LOOKING SOUTHEAST, UH, AT A CAR.
AND, UH, SUP CONDITIONS REMAIN THE SAME EXCEPT THE TIME LIMIT AND SUP SITE PLAN, UH, WITH NO CHANGE.
AND THE SITE IS WITHIN COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL IN FOR WORTH DALLAS.
AND, UM, THIS PLACE TIES PRIMARILY A ACCOMMODATE, UM, RESIDENTIAL USES AND SUPPORTING MIXED USE COMMERCIAL OFFICES.
AND, UM, STAFF FINDS THIS REQUEST COMPATIBLE, UH, DUE TO ITS EDGE LOCATION AND ADJACENCY TO MORE INTENSE, UH, USES.
UH, THIS IS ALSO FALLS WITHIN, UH, SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN AND, UM, UH, WHICH IS A COMMUNITY DRIVEN FRAMEWORK GUIDING GROWTH AND REDEVELOPMENT IN, UH, PD 5 95.
AND THEY REQUEST, UM, IS CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THIS AREA PLAN AS IT'S PROMOTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, ACTIVATING AND ON UNDERUTILIZED SIZE IN WORKABLE MIXED USE SUBDISTRICT.
SO A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH NO EXPIRATION DATES SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
AND THESE CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
WE WILL REMOVE THAT FROM CONSENT AND THAT MEANS WE DO NOT HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA TODAY, WHICH IS FINE, BUT I THINK ALL BUT ONE ITEM HAS BEEN REQUESTED.
MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON CPC, THIS IS AT LEAST THE FOURTH TIME WE HAVE HEARD THIS PARTICULAR RENEWAL.
AND THIS IS A SITE WITH A TROUBLED HISTORY, WHICH WAS ONE REASON WHY THEY WERE ONLY GIVEN A ONE YEAR SUP THE LAST TIME.
I DON'T SEE ANY, YOU KNOW, POLICE INCIDENT REPORTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT GIVEN THE TRACK RECORD THAT THIS, UM, OPERATOR AND LOCATION HAS HAD, UM, HOW THE STAFF JUSTIFY A PERMANENT SUP AS YOU KNOW, SUVS, UH, ARE CONTROLLING USERS, NOT THE OPERATOR.
AND WE FOUND THE USE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
CAN, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? THIS, THIS A, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME.
THAT WAS THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT THEY APPLIED.
AND COMMISSIONER WHEELER, YOUR, YOUR FACE IS I THINK SORT OF DISAPPEARING INTO THE WEBEX BACKGROUND, SO IF YOU CAN STEP A LITTLE CLOSER, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH STATE LAW HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHEMY.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE.
UM, SO MS. BLUE, IF SHE WANTS IT.
BRIEF COMMISSIONERS, DO WE WANT THIS ONE BRIEFED? YES.
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MR. CHAIR.CAN I ASK A QUESTION WHILE SHE'S BRINGING UP HER PRESENTATION? YES.
HAS, UH, THIS, UH, ITEM FIVE, IS IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR HAS IT BEEN MURDERED THERE? THERE IS NO LONGER A CONSENT AGENDA.
THIS IS ITEM Z 2 45 DASH 1 51.
IT'S A APPLICATION FOR A AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1 66 AND TO REZONE THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1 66 INTO A MF TWO MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT IS ON PROPERTY ZONE, UM, PROPERTY BETWEEN LA PRADA DRIVE SHYLA ROAD AND SOUTH OF BLADEN STREET ROAD DRIVE.
SORRY, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 11.603 ACRES IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT SEVEN.
HERE IS THE PROPERTY, UM, SHOWN ON THE AREA MAP LOCATION MAP.
UM, SO HERE'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND HISTORY.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY, ESTABL IS CURRENTLY A ESTABLISHMENT FOR THE CARE OF ALCOHOLIC NARCOTIC AND PSYCHIATRIC PAT PAT PATIENTS.
UM, WHICH CONSISTS OF THE FOLLOWING.
THERE'S A CHILDCARE BUILDING, THERE'S AN OFFICE BUILDING, AND THERE'S SOME DORMITORIES.
UM, HERE'S THE DEFINITION OF THAT USE, THAT ESTABLISHED FOR A CHILD FOR THE CARE OF ALCOHOLIC, NARCOTIC AND PSYCHIATRIC PATIENT.
UM, THIS USE IS LIMITED EXCLUSIVELY TO RESIDENTS AND OUTPATIENTS TREATED FOR ALCOHOL AND NARCOTICS PATIENTS.
THIS TREATMENT MUST BE, UM, OF A NON-MEDICAL NATURE.
UM, HERE'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF THE AMENDMENT THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.
UM, SO FOR NUMBER ONE, THEY'RE GONNA ADD ADDITIONAL DORMITORIES AND OFFICE TO THE SITE.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA REMOVE THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF AREA TWO OUT OF THE PD AND THEY'RE GONNA REZONE THAT TO MF TWO.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA REMOVE THE, UH, DESIGNATION FOR AREA ONE AND AREA TWO, THEY'RE GONNA MODIFY THE BOUNDARIES OF THE OVERALL PD.
UM, IT WAS 11 SOMETHING, NOW 10 SOMETHING ACRES.
AND THEN ALSO THEY'RE GONNA INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, UM, FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT.
HERE IS A AREA MAP OF THE PROPERTY, UH, OUTLINED IN RED.
UM, HERE IS THE ZONING MAP SHOWING SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND LAND USES, UM, TO THE NORTH.
TO THE EAST, WE HAVE THE CITY OF MESQUITE.
UM, TO THE SOUTH WE HAVE MORE, UH, WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY AND A OFFICE BUILDING.
AND TO THE WEST WE HAVE MULTIFAMILY.
I'M GONNA GO THROUGH A FEW SITE PHOTOS.
SO THIS IS LOOKING ONTO THE PROPERTY OFF OF LA PRADA.
THIS IS LOOKING DOWN THE ALLEYWAY.
UM, THIS IS LOOKING BACK TOWARD THE ALLEYWAY TOWARD LA PRADA.
HERE'S SOME RANT SURROUNDINGS.
SO WHEN I SAID TO THE WEST, THERE WERE MULTI-FAMILY, UM, DEVELOPMENTS.
HERE ARE THE PICTURES OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS.
SO HERE'S THEIR EXISTING, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
UM, IT WAS LISTED AS A CONCEPTUAL AND A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, SO FOR ACTUALLY THIS, UM, AMENDMENT, WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN 'CAUSE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN WAS ONLY FOR AREA TWO.
IT SAYS THAT'S GONNA BE REMOVED FROM THE PD.
UM, HERE'S ENLARGEMENT OF THOSE.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE AREA ONE IS HIGHLIGHTED AND THEN AREA TWO IS HIGHLIGHTED ALSO WITH THAT SOUTH PORTION, UM, THAT DROPS DOWN, THAT'S THE PORTION THAT'S GONNA BE REMOVED OUT OF THE PD.
HERE IS THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND SO THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS ONLY DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE OVERALL BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.
THERE'S NO MORE AREA ONE OR AREA TWO.
UM, HERE IS THE LANGUAGE AND THE LANGUAGE WHICH WE REMOVE SOME THE ITEMS THAT TALKED ABOUT, UM, AREA TWO AND THEN ALSO REMOVED THE WORD AREA ONE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SOME OTHER ITEMS. UM, WE WENT IN AND MODIFIED THE AREA, UH, REQUEST IN THE ACRES.
UM, ALSO AS I STATED EARLIER, UM, WE MODIFIED, UM, THE ALLOWABLE AREA FOR THE PD AND THEN ALSO SOME PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, FOR DALLAS, I DID DO FOR DALLAS CONSISTENCY REVIEW.
AND THIS IS IN A CITY RESIDENTIAL THAT DOES ALLOW FOR, UH, LIKE MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE.
AND THEN ALSO SOME OFFICE USES TOO.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED OF
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THE, THE AMENDMENT TO PD 1 66 SUBJECT TO AMENDING CONDITIONS.I'VE NEVER, IN LIKE EIGHT, IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, I HAVEN NEVER SINCE.
I THINK YOUR, YOUR MICROPHONE'S ON AND SHE'S ABOUT TO WRAP UP HER BRIEFING.
SO IF YOU COULD MUTE YOURSELF FOR JUST A MINUTE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION, APPROVE OF THE AMENDMENT OF PD 1 66, SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS AND AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND TWO, APPROVAL OF MF TWO MULTIFAMILY IN THAT PORTION THAT I SPOKE OF EARLIER.
THAT CONCLUDES THIS PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU MS. BLUE FOR YOUR BRIEFING COMMISSIONERS' QUESTIONS FOR MS. BLUE.
ALL RIGHT, UM, SEEING NO QUESTIONS ON CASE NUMBER EIGHT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER NINE.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT WAS BRIEFED BACK WHEN WE FIRST HAD IT ON OUR AGENDA IN JULY.
UM, DOES ANYONE WANT IT TO BE BRIEFED AGAIN OR AN UPDATE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE NO CHANGES.
THERE'S NO CHANGES, BUT THE APPLICANT DID SEND AN EMAIL THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DISPERSED OUT TO THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, SENT THE EMAIL THIS MORNING.
UM, HE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
I GUESS HE'S GONNA SPEAK ON IT MORE.
UH, HE HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO SUPPORT HIS CASE, BUT AS FAR AS UH, STAFF, UH, THERE WAS NO UPDATES GIVEN TO ME TO ADD TO THE CASE OR ANYTHING.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS ON CASE NUMBER NINE.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT THIS AFTERNOON.
AND THAT'S NOT ON CONSENT, CORRECT? IT IS UNDER ADVISEMENT.
ALRIGHT, CASE NUMBER 10 IS GOING TO BE HELD.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO, AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN BRIEFED, SO WE WON'T BRIEF THAT AGAIN TODAY.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES OUR ZONING DOCKET.
DOES ANYONE NEED ANY OF THE CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SIGNS BRIEFED? YES, I WOULD.
ON JEFFERSON, UH, DO WE HAVE MR. ROPER, MR. POOLE? UH, LET'S TAKE JUST A SECOND TO ALLOW, UM, THE STAFF MEMBER WHO WILL BRIEF THE SIGNS AND THAT'S NUMBER 22 AND 2324.
AND COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DID YOU NEED THE D 14 SIGNS BRIEFED? I DON'T.
BUT I THINK, DID COMMISSIONER CARPENTER WANT 'EM OR NO? I THINK THOSE ARE D ONE SIGNS.
I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE BRIEFED.
SPECIFIC WHY OVERWHELMING AMOUNT.
ALRIGHT, MR. ROPER, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO BEGIN YOUR, YOUR BRIEFING.
AND DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE HIM CONNECTED TO THE OH SYSTEM? OKAY.
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GOOD MORNING.I'M THE SUPERVISOR FOR THE SCIENCE DEPARTMENT.
UH, THIS MORNING I'LL BE BRIEFING CASE NUMBER TWO FIVE DASH 2 8 8 4 A 2 5 2 8 8 5 A AND TWO FIVE DASH 2 8 8 6 A.
UH, THESE ARE ALL APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY BOBBY ESH OF ESH SIGNED SERVICES FOR 126.4 SQUARE FOOT.
LED ELIMINATED CHANNEL LETTER SIGNS AT 4 36 WEST JEFFERSON AVENUE ON THE NORTHWEST AND SOUTH ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING.
SO MOVING ON TO THE PRESENTATION, I'M GONNA PRESENT THESE ALL TOGETHER.
SO THE APPLICABLE CODE SECTIONS MATTERS 51 P DASH 3 16 1 13, THE JEFFERSON AREA SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT PD.
UH, THIS IS THE PURPOSE FROM THE PD.
I'M NOT GONNA READ THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
UH, THE SUBJECT SITE'S LOCATED WITHIN THE JEFFERSON AREA SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.
THE SITE'S APPROXIMATELY THREE AND ONE 10TH MILES SOUTHWEST OF CITY HALL, SOUTH OF I 30 AND WEST OF I 35.
IT'S IN THE JEFFERSON SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT.
THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION ON THE MAP.
HERE'S THE AERIAL AND ZONING MAP.
UH, THIS IS THE LOCATION MARKED BY THE STAR OF THE FIRST SIGN.
AND THIS WOULD BE SIGN DASH TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 6 4 0.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS ON THE FACADE FRONTING JEFFERSON BOULEVARD.
ALL THREE SIGNS ARE THE EXACT SAME, JUST ONE FRONT JEFFERSON BOULEVARD, ONE FRONTS ADAMS AVENUE, AND THE OTHER IS GOING TO BE FACING CENTER STREET WITH A PARKING LOT IN BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND CENTER STREET.
AND AS I MENTIONED THIS, THIS PROPOSED SIGN IS TO BE LOCATED ON THE NORTH FACADE FACING JEFFERSON BOULEVARD.
THIS IS THE FIRST OF THREE FLAT ATTACHED SIGNS TO BE INSTALLED AT THIS SITE.
THE ONLY TWO BE INSTALLED ON THIS FACADE.
THIS SIGN WILL BE 126.4 SQUARE FEET.
THESE ARE THE BUILDING THE DETAILS OF THE SIGN, THE DIMENSIONS, THE AREA, AND THE COLORS USED.
THE SECOND SIDE SIGN WILL BE ON THE ADAMS AVENUE FACADE.
THIS IS THE SECOND OF THE THREE FLAT ATTACHED SIGNS TO BE INSTALLED AT THE SITE.
AND THE ONLY SIGN TO BE INSTALLED ON THIS FACADE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S ARTWORK ALSO ON THIS SIDE OF THE WALL.
THIS SIGN WILL ALSO BE 126.4 SQUARE FEET.
SAME BUILDING DETAILS, SAME DIMENSIONS AND COLORS.
AND THE FINAL SIGN IS TO BE INSTALLED ON THE SOUTH FACADE FACING CENTER STREET WITH A PARKING LOT IN BETWEEN.
AND THIS IS ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
SAME DIMENSIONS, SAME BUILD SPECS.
AND HERE'S SOME VIEWS AROUND THE BUILDING WEST, LOOKING WEST ON JEFFERSON, EAST ON JEFFERSON, SOUTH ON ADAMS, NORTH ON ADAMS. AND ON THE NORTH ON ADAMS VIEW, YOU CAN SEE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THERE'S SOME SIGNS IN THE AREA.
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AND THEN BOTH STAFF AND SSD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON THESE, THESE THREE SIGNS.QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROPER? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES, MY, UH, QUESTIONS HAVE TO DO WITH THE SIGN THAT IS FACING THE PARKING LOT ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AN ILLUMINATED SIGN IS THAT THE, THE STANDARD FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS HERE? IT, IT SEEMS A A LOT OF AN OVER, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF SIGNAGE THAT IS TYPICAL OF THE AREA.
IT IS PRETTY STANDARD FOR IT'S, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S PARKING IN THE BACK.
THERE IT IS PRETTY STANDARD TO HAVE A SIGN ON THE BACK SIDE.
IT IS PRETTY STANDARD TO HAVE A SIGN ON THE BACK OF A BUILDING, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS PARKING IN THE BACK.
DO THE OTHER BUILDINGS ALONG THIS STREET FRONTAGE? I MEAN, I, UH, IN THIS ROW OF, UH, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS HAVE SIMILAR SIGNAGE.
WAS THERE, I I KNOW THIS, THESE CASES HAD NOT GONE TO THE SPECIAL PURPOSE SIGNED DISTRICT COMMITTEE AT THE TIME THE DOCKET, UH, WAS PUBLISHED.
WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THESE? I I I SAW THAT, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVAL.
WAS IT UNANIMOUS? IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
I KNOW THERE ARE AREAS, UM, WHERE HAVING THIS REAR FACING SIGN WHEN THERE'S PARKING, UM, IT DOES APPEAR THAT THERE'S BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALSO FRONTING ONTO CENTER STREET, BUT IT APPEARED THAT MOST OF THE SIGNAGE THAT'S ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDINGS, UM, IS OF A DIFFERENT CHARACTER.
AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS I, IT'S NOT, I THINK WE HAVE SOME LATITUDE IN HOW THIS COMMISSION REVIEWS, UM, APPROPRIATENESS OF SIGNS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT MEETS SIZE, IT MEETS ALL THE OTHER, UM, REQUIREMENTS OF IT.
BUT IS THAT ANYTHING THAT AS STAFF WAS LOOKING AT IT AND HOW IT FITS WITHIN THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE AREA? NO, WE, WE ONLY LOOK AT CODE AND WHETHER IT MEETS CODE.
AND IT'S, THERE'S LOTS OF PAINTED SIGNS.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME MURALS, SOME ART, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SEE IN, IN SOME OTHER AREAS.
SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE WAS ANY MORE CONTEXT.
ANY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? JUST TRYING TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT HERE.
UM, IF THERE WAS NOT A SPECIAL SIGN DISTRICT, WOULD THESE SIGNS BE BIGGER? WOULD THEY BE MORE COLORFUL? WOULD THEY BE SOMEHOW DIFFERENT? UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK OF A SIGN DISTRICT AS BEING A, A A, A CONTEXT WHERE IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE AND THERE'S MORE RULES, WHATEVER.
WHAT DO, CAN YOU SPECULATE AS TO WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF THERE WAS NO SIGN DISTRICT? TYPICALLY THE SIGN DISTRICTS ARE A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE.
UM, THIS DISTRICT IN PARTICULAR IS MORE RESTRICTIVE.
IT, IT, IT, UH, TRIES TO KEEP THE SIGNS IN A CERTAIN CHARACTER A CHARACTERISTIC.
UM, IT DID THAT CHARACTERISTIC DID NOT AFFECT THE DESIGN OF THESE SIGNS AT ALL.
UM, THEY FIT AND THE SIZE FIT, UH, BUT UH, FOR THE MOST PART, YES THE SIGN DISTRICTS DO RESTRICT IN MOST CASES.
I THINK THIS IS EITHER FOR YOU OR FOR LEGAL AND I THINK COMMISSIONER CARPENTER OR COMMISSIONER HAMPTON GOT AT THIS POINT, BUT THE SPSD ORDINANCE INCLUDES CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND THERE'S ALSO AN EVALUATION TO BE MADE BY THE SIGNED COMMITTEES AS WELL AS CPC AND ITS LANGUAGE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE CITY SHOULD CONSIDER THE PROPOSED SIGN IN TERMS OF ITS APPROPRIATENESS TO THE SPSD, ET CETERA, ET CETERA? CORRECT.
AND THAT'S AN EVALUATION THAT STAFF DOES NOT WEIGH IN ON, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT'S UP TO US AND THE SIGNED COMMITTEE? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? ON THESE ITEMS? ALRIGHT, UM, I THINK THAT, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO BRIEF THIS MORNING? IF NOT, UM, IT'S 9:54 AM AND THAT CONCLUDES THIS MORNING'S BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
AND WE'LL BE BACK AT, UH, 1230
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FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING.[CALL TO ORDER]
AFTERNOON.IT IS, UH, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 9TH, 2025 AT 12:30 PM THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
UH, MS. LOPEZ, IF YOU COULD START US OFF WITH A ROLL CALL.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER SIMS, DISTRICT TWO.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT HERE.
COMMISSIONER COX? DISTRICT 12.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 VICE CHAIR RUBEN, I'M HERE.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. LOPEZ.
UM, I WANTED TO START OFF WITH JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING NOTES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYONE WHO'S JOINED US HERE TODAY.
UM, IF YOU DO INTEND TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS, WE ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT ONE OF THESE YELLOW CARDS THAT ARE DOWN THERE IN THE FRONT TO THE RIGHT, YOUR RIGHT, MY LEFT OF THE PODIUM.
SO WE HAVE A RECORD OF EVERYONE WHO'S COME TO SPEAK TO THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION TODAY.
UM, JUST TO NOTE FOR ALL OF THE MEMBERS THAT WE ARE A LITTLE TIGHT ON QUORUM, SO YOU KNOW, PLEASE BE COGNIZANT OF THAT IF YOU NEED TO STEP OUT OR, OR TAKE A BIO BREAK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE BREAKS THROUGHOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING AS IS UM, NECESSARY.
AND FINALLY, SINCE I'M SERVING AS ACTING CHAIR TODAY, WE NEED A TEMPORARY VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT HAS GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO SERVE TODAY.
SO IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO APPOINT HIM AS TEMPORARY VICE CHAIR, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR, UM, SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2025 MINUTES.COMMISSIONER HALL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
MR. CHAIR, UH, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CPC MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2025 AS POSTED.
COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
[1. 25-2863A An application for minor amendment to the development plan on property zoned Planned Development District No. 650 on Cradlerock Drive, Cheyenne Road, Checota Drive, and Amity Lane. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Dallas Independent School District Representative: Elsie Thurman - Land Use Planning & Zoning Sevices Planner: Sheila Alcantara Segovia Council District: 5 MZ-25-000011(SAS)]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST ITEM, UM, ON THE MISCELLANEOUS.THIS IS ITEM NUMBER ONE, CASE MZ 2 5 11.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6 5 0 ON CRADLE ROCK DRIVE, NNE ROAD, CHICA DRIVE, AND AMANDY LANE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM ONE? MZ 2 5 0 0 0 0 1 1.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT OR VICE CHAIR HOUSEWRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, YES I DO.
MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF MZ TWO FIVE DASH 11, I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
UH, MR. HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
[2. 25-2864A An application for an amendment to Tract III within Planned Development 278 on the south line of Irving Boulevard, east of Lakawana Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to amended conceptual plan (Exhibit 278A), amended development plan (Exhibit 278G), amended landscaping plan (Exhibit 278D) and amended conditions. Applicant: John Pruitt, Bowen & Associates, LLC Representative: Cassandra Huggins, Dynamic Engineering Consultants, PC Planner: Liliana Garza Council District: 6 Z-25-000058]
ALRIGHT, WE HAD A CONSENT DOCKET GOING INTO ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA GOING INTO THE MEETING, BUT, UM, FOUR OF OUR FIVE ITEMS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.SO WE'LL TAKE UP EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY AND WE WILL START WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO.
ITEM TWO IS CASE Z 20, PARDON ME.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO TRACK THREE WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 2 7 8 ON THE SOUTH LINE OF IRVING BOULEVARD EAST OF LEWAN STREET.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT
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TO AMENDED CONCEPTUAL PLAN EXHIBIT 2 78, A AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN EXHIBIT TWO 70 A G AMENDED LANDSCAPING PLAN 2 78 D AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASE NUMBER TWO Z 25 0 5 8 IN A DIFFERENT CASE? ALRIGHT, I DON'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ONLINE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES IN THE MATTER OF Z TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 5 8.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONCEPTUAL PLAN EXHIBIT 2 78, A AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN EXHIBIT 2 78 G AMENDED LANDSCAPING PLAN EXHIBIT 2 78 D AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
THE MOTION CARRIES CASE NUMBER
[3. 25-2865A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2008 for an attached projecting non-premise district activity videoboard sign on property zoned Planned Development District No. 619, on the west line of S. Ervay Street between Commerce Street and Jackson Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions. Applicant: Dalpark Partners Ltd. Representative: Rob Baldwin, Baldwin Associates Planner: Cherrell Caldwell Council District: 14 Z-25-000139 / Z245-127]
THREE.ITEM THREE IS CASE Z 25 1 39, ALSO KNOWN AS Z 2 45 1 27.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 0 0 8 FOR AN ATTACHED PROJECTING NON-PREMISE DISTRICT ACTIVITY.
VIDEO BOARD SIGN ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6 1 9 ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH AIR BAY STREET BETWEEN COMMERCE STREET AND JACKSON STREET.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS.
UM, NUMBER THREE, NUMBER FOUR ARE COMPANION CASES.
THESE ARE RENEWALS OF VIDEO BOARDS.
DOWNTOWN, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD.
UH, FOR THE SUPI SPOKE WITH THE COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND SHE WAS MORE WILLING TO SUPPORT A FIVE YEAR SUP, WHICH I'M, I'M FINE WITH.
SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT, UH, IF, IF THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR A FIVE YEARS, UH, APPLICANT, IT'S FINE WITH THAT.
DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM THREE? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 3 9, ALSO KNOWN AS Z 2 45 DASH 1 27? I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THE SUP WOULD BE LIMITED TO FIVE YEARS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER TON FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE MOTION CARRIES NUMBER FOUR.
[4. 25-2866A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2009 for an attached projecting non-premise district activity videoboard sign on property zoned Planned Development District 619, on the south side of Commerce Street between Lane Street and S. Ervay Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions. Applicant: Dalpark Partners Ltd. Representative: Rob Baldwin, Baldwin Associates Planner: Cherrell Caldwell Council District: 14 Z-25-000138 / Z245-128]
ITEM FOUR IS CASE Z 2 5 1 38 OR Z 2 4 512 8.AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 0 0 9 FOR AN ATTACHED PROJECTING NON-PREMISE DISTRICT ACTIVITY VIDEO BOARD SIGN ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 6 1 9 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF COMMERCE STREET BETWEEN LANE STREET AND SOUTH ARAB, A STREET STAFF.
RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL, SUBJECT AND CONDITIONS.
ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON NUMBER FOUR? ALRIGHT, WITH THERE NOTE BEING NO SPEAKERS.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 3 8, ALSO KNOWN AS Z 2 4 5 28? I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT IT WOULD BE THE SUP WOULD BE LIMITED TO FIVE YEARS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAMPSON FOR YOUR SECOND.
[5. 25-2867A An application for D(A) Duplex District on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District on the southwest corner of Louisiana Avenue and Seevers Avenue, east of Beckley Avenue. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Aubrey Quarles Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 4 Z-25-000130]
FIVE.AN APPLICATION FOR DA DUPLEX DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED R SEVEN FIVE.
A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LOUISIANA AVENUE AND SEA AVENUE EAST OF BECKLEY AVENUE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
UH, MA'AM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE? YES.
OH MA'AM, CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR, THERE'S A BUTTON THAT YOU TOUCH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE, THERE YOU GO.
YOU NEED TO ROLL THIS NEED FOR THREE MINUTES? YES.
UM, SOME OF THE REASONS I HAVE FOR OPPOSING THIS MULTI-UNIT IN OUR SINGLE RESIDENTIAL U UM, NEIGHBORHOOD IS IT DISRUPTS THE SINGLE FAMILY, UM, SET UP IN APPROVING A DUPLEX ZONE.
CREATES SPOT ZONING THAT DISRUPTS THE UNIFORM RESIDENTIAL PATTERN.
IT SITS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR SIMILAR REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE STABLE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND NUMBER TWO, AN
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A REQUIRES 7,500 MINIMUMS LOT SIZE PER DWELLING UNIT AND DO PLUS DISTRICT TYPICALLY REQUIRES ONLY 37 50 SQUARE FEET PER UNIT.UM, THIS DRAMATIC DIS DENSITY INCREASE, UH, DOUBLING UNITS ON SAME FOOTPRINT EXCEEDS INFRASTRUCTURE DESIGNED FOR A SINGLE FAMILY DENSITY.
A CORNER LOT LOCATION AMPLIFIES TRAFFIC AND PARKING IMPACTS ON TWO STREETS.
AND THE STRAIN ON STREET INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARKING.
LOUISIANA AVENUE AND SEAVERS ARE LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS NOT DESIGNED FOR DUPLEX DENSITY.
DOUBLING DWELLING UNITS MEANS INCREASED VEHICLE TRIPS ON STREET PARKING DEMAND AND TRAFFIC CONFLICTS.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS WILL BE THREE BUILDINGS THAT ARE DUPLEXES AND THE CORNER LOT PLACEMENT CREATES SAFETY CONCERNS WITH ADDITIONAL CURB CUTS, TURNING MOVEMENTS.
UM, NO DEMONSTRATION THAT EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE CAN ACCOMMODATE INCREASED DEMAND WITHOUT DEGRADATION OF SERVICE.
AND NUMBER FOUR, ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORHOOD NEIGHBORING PROPERTY VALUES.
CONVERSION TO HIGHER DENSITY DUPLEX MEANS USE MAY NEGATIVELY AFFECT ADJACENT, ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY HOME VALUES.
INCREASED DENSITY BRINGS MORE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY PATTERNS COMPARED TO OWNER OCCUPIED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
PROPERTY MAINTENANCE STANDARDS TYPICALLY DECLINE WITH RENTAL DUPLEXES VERSUS OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES.
PROPERTY MAINTENANCE STANDARDS TYPICALLY DECLINE WITH RENTAL DUPLEXES VERSUS OWNER OCCUPIED HOMES.
FINANCIAL HARM TO EXISTING HOMEOWNERS WHO INVESTED BASE, WHO INVESTED BASED ON SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, PROJE PROTECTIONS AND INSUFFICIENT SETBACKS.
AND BUILDING MASS DUPLEX DISTRICTS ALLOW LARGER BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AND REDUCED SETBACKS COMPARED TO R DASH 7 58.
AN INCREASED BUILDING MASS ON CORNER LOT CREATES VISUAL AND PHYSICAL INTRUSION INTO SINGLE FAMILY STREET SCAPE, LOSS OF OPEN SPACE AND GREEN AREA CHARACTERISTIC OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
PRIVACY IMPACTS ON ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE Z 25 0 0 0 1 3 0? YEAH, IF YOU COULD TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON.
HELLO, MY NAME IS PHILIPPE AND I'M, I'M THE OWNER OF, UH, SEAVERS PROPERTY.
UH, I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE, UH, 7 5 2 1 6 ZIP CODE FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
SO I'M WELL AWARE OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT IN THE AREA AND UH, WE BUILD LIKE 25 TO 30 HOUSES AROUND THE AREA.
UM, 7 5 2 1 6 7 5 2 1 7, 7 5 2 0 8, BASICALLY ALL OF DFW.
UM, I'M JUST BASICALLY HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
UM, PRETTY MUCH, UM, WE CAN SEE ALL THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AROUND THERE.
SO I, THAT'S WHY I THINK, UM, WE SHOULD DO DUPLEXES THERE.
SIR, CAN YOU PROVIDE YOUR, UH, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? MY ADDRESS IS SEVEN 14 EAST WOODEN BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 6.
AND ARE YOU THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT? YES.
AND FOR OVER 40 YEARS I'VE BEEN LIVING, SIR.
THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF ZONING KC 25 DASH OH OH OH ONE THREE OH.
I MOVED THAT WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENY THE APPLICATION FOR A DUPLEX DISTRICT WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
AND I HAVE COMMENTS AFTER WE HAVE QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND, UM, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH.
UH, CAN I ASK QUESTIONS? YEAH.
UH, FELIPE, COULD YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? COULD YOU DESCRIBE, UH, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, THE TYPE OF, UH, DUPLEX UNITS YOU'RE PLANNING TO BUILD? YES, I, I WANTED TO DO, UH, SO THERE'S THREE LOTS.
I WANTED TO, UH, DUPLEX ON EACH PROPERTY WITH THE FRONT TWO
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CAR GARAGE.BEING THAT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF HAIL DAMAGE AND THE WEATHER AND PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THEIR VEHICLES INSIDE THE GARAGE.
ALL THE CARS ARE EXPENSIVE NOWADAYS AND INSURANCES DON'T WANT TO PAY.
SO, AND THEN THEY WANT A GREENERY IN THE BACK WHERE THEY COULD HAVE THE PRIVACY, HAVE ENTERTAIN THE NEIGHBORS OR HAVE A PET WHERE THEY COULD BE IN THE BACKYARD.
UM, IS THERE AN ALLEYWAY THERE IN, IN, ON THESE PROPERTIES? YES, THERE IS A PAVED ALLEYWAY AND, AND, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO A REAR, UH, FACING GARAGE, UH, AS OPPOSED TO A FRONT FACING, UH, GARAGE, UH, WHICH IS IN YOUR DESIGN.
SO COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO DO A REAR GARAGE? I DON'T WANNA DO A REAR UH, GARAGE BEING THE FACT THAT, UM, THEY WON'T HAVE A GREEN RE SPECIFICALLY FOR EACH SIDE OF THE DUPLEX WHERE THEY COULD HAVE A PET OR, OR HAVE, UH, VISITORS TO ENTERTAIN IN THE BACKYARD VERSUS BEING THE GREENERY IN THE FRONT.
UH, NO ONE WOULD HAVE THEIR PRIVATE SPACE.
SO, SO, SO BASICALLY, UM, THE DESIGN IS GOING TO BE A TWO STORY DUPLEX UNIT RIGHT? WITH THE GARAGE, UH, AT THE LOWER LEVEL AND THEN THE, UH, THE LIVING AREA WOULD BE ON TOP OF THE GARAGE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND AND THE DRIVEWAYS WOULD BE IN THE FRONT? YES.
SO THERE'D BE SIX DRIVEWAYS, CORRECT? WELL, THEY COULD PUT TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE AND THEN TWO CARS OUTSIDE IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE VERSUS WE'D GO IN THE BACKYARD.
UH, THERE WON'T BE, WE WOULD HAVE PROBLEMS IN THE FRONT AND LUCIANA AND SEAVERS PARKING SPACES FOR VISITORS.
SO IDEALLY IT WOULD BE TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE AND TWO CARS IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE.
SO EASILY, UH, EIGHT VEHICLES PER UNIT.
BUT, BUT, BUT BASICALLY THERE'S GONNA BE SIX DRIVEWAYS 'CAUSE IT GOES, THERE'S GONNA BE TWO TWO CAR GARAGE FOR EACH UNIT.
AND THERE'S SIX UNITS ALTOGETHER? CORRECT.
AND, AND, UM, UH, IF, IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO DENY YOUR REQUEST AND, AND IT REMAINS SEVEN OR SEVEN FIVE ZONING, WOULD YOU BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE, ON, ON THESE, ON THESE, UH, LOTS.
I, I WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND, UM, EVALUATE IT, SEE WHAT IF I WOULD DO WITH THE PROPERTY IF I DON'T GET APPROVED FOR THE DUPLEXES BECAUSE DUPLEXES IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT NOWADAYS.
HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU RECENTLY BUILT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREA? YES, LIKE, UH, LIKE I SAID PREVIOUSLY, I, I BUILT BETWEEN 25 AND 30 HOUSES A YEAR.
MY COMPANY SCALE FAMILY BUILDERS, AND WE BUILD IN A DFW.
SO YOU HAVE BUILT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RECENTLY, CORRECT? IN, IN THE, IN NEAR NEARBY AREA? YES.
IS THIS MOTION AND COMMENTS? UH, THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COMMISSIONER FORSYTH TO DENY WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
SO WE'RE NOW ONTO DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION, WHICH CAN INCLUDE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR ANY OF OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
UM, AND THEN, OKAY, SO, AND, AND MY VOTE IS TO, IF I WANTED TO APPROVE OR NOT, IF I WANNA FOLLOW, UM, MY BRAIN AIN'T WORKING TODAY.
DO YOU WANT US TO COME? DO YOU NEED A VOTE? NO, NO, NO.
I KNOW, I, I KNOW WHAT, WHAT'S NAME, SO I AM NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT MOTION.
UM, AND, AND I WANT TO ASK, UH, A QUESTION.
HOW MANY CONTINUING LOTS OF THESE DO YOU HAVE? UH, THREE ALTOGETHER.
AND YOU'RE GONNA BE A DUPLEX ON EACH ONE OF THOSE LOTS? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST, AND IS THERE ARE BUSINESSES, IS THESE BUSINESSES RIGHT BY CLOSE TO THE PROXIMITY TO THIS, UM, LOCATION? YES.
ON WOODEN AND, AND BECKLEY, UM, ALL COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND ALSO RIGHT IN FRONT OF, UH, ON BOTH SIDES OF WOODEN, UH, THERE'RE GONNA BE DUPLEXES GOING UP SOON FROM, UH, AND ANOTHER DEVELOPER.
SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING, AND, AND, AND THE REASON THAT I, I WANNA SUPPORT THIS MOTION IS THERE IS TIMES, UM, WHERE WE HAVE PROPERTIES LIKE THIS AS CONTINUUM THAT WILL SERVE A DUPLEX, ANYTHING WITH HIGHER DENSITY, MAYBE NOT, BUT TO HAVE DUPLEXES AND QUITE A BIT OF THEM IN THESE TYPE OF AREAS, WHICH WITH WIDE ENOUGH STREETS LIKE THIS, I DO SUPPORT A DUPLEX.
I, I, UM, I MORE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL FOR DUPLEXES IN THE AREA.
I DON'T THINK IT HURTS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE, ARE LOOKING INTO BUYING THOSE DUPLEXES.
SO I'M GONNA SU I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
IF IT WERE, IT'S A HYPOTHETICAL, BUT IF THIS, IF IT WERE A CONDITION THAT THE DRIVEWAYS IN THE GARAGES HAD TO BE ACCESSED FROM THE ALLEY
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IN ORDER TO GET THE ZONING, WOULD YOU STILL BUILD? UH, UH NO, BECAUSE BEING THAT THEY'RE IN THE BACK, THEY'RE MORE, UH, PRIME, UH, CRIME MIGHT BE MORE VANDALISM VERSUS BEING IN THE FRONT OF THE YARD.UM, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS.
UM, THE REAR ENTRY WOULD BE MORE CRIME YES.
UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE, UM, OH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION.
I THINK HAVING THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF THIS HALF A BLOCK BE DRIVEWAYS, UH, DOES NOT COMPLY WITH OUR VISION ZERO POLICY.
AND I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T PROMOTE WALKABILITY, GIVEN THE SITE'S ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT PRO PROMOTING WALKABILITY.
UM, AND I THINK ASKING THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY TO SACRIFICE THAT SAFETY IN ORDER FOR THE OCCUPANTS OF THESE UNITS TO HAVE MORE PRIVACY ISN'T A FAIR EXCHANGE.
IF THE DUPLEXES HAD REAR ENTRY FROM OFF THE ALLEY, THEN I PROBABLY WOULDN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION BECAUSE I DO THINK THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR, FOR GENTLE DENSITY IN DUPLEXES.
I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THE DESIGN THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE LAID OUT.
AND SINCE IT'S JUST A ZONING CHANGE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY OR, OR ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN SAY YES OR NO ON, ON THAT.
UM, SO YOUR EXPERIENCE BUILDING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD YOU'VE BUILT, SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE BUILT QUITE A LOT.
UM, CAN YOU OFFER US YOUR OPINION ON THE MARKETABILITY OF SINGLE FAMILY ON THESE LOTS GIVEN THAT THEY BACK UP TO COMMERCIAL? THAT'S WHY I WANT TO, UH, DO DUPLEXES BECAUSE IT, IT DOES AFFECT MY, UH, SALES PRICE AS FAR AS BEING THE PROPERTIES BEHIND IT, COMMERCIAL AND, UM, PEOPLE WANT MORE PRIVACY OBVIOUSLY, BUT BEING THAT'S COMMERCIAL THERE, I BELIEVE IT FITS IN THE, THE AREA.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WOULD BE HARDER TO SELL OR OCCUPY THAN THE DUPLEX? CORRECT.
AND MY, FROM YOUR COMMENTS, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DON'T PLAN TO REPL THESE LOTS, YOU'RE GONNA USE THESE LOTS AS, AS IS.
AND SO THEY'RE CONSIDERABLY LARGER THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR DUPLEX, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND SO YOUR SETBACKS ARE GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SETBACKS OF IF IT WERE SINGLE FAMILY? THAT IS CORRECT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, DID YOU EVALUATE OTHER, UM, ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY, UM, MEET THE NEEDS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR WITH THE, THE TWO, TWO UNITS ON ON A LOT? UM, NO.
UM, WAS THAT ANYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE COMMUNITY OR, UM, THE COMMISSIONER? NO.
SO, UM, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE ARE OTHER, UM, AREAS OF TOWN WHERE WE USE, UM, FOR INSTANCE A RTN DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE UNITS, BUT ADDRESSES SOME OF THESE OTHER, UM, TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT ALLOW FOR THE INCREASE IN DENSITY, BUT HELP IT BLEND INTO THE EXISTING COMMUNITIES, ESSENTIALLY FINDING A MIDDLE GROUND AS WE ADD MORE DENSITY? UH, NO, I, I DIDN'T DO THE RESEARCH ON THAT.
UM, WAS THAT ANYTHING YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER? UM, TO, UH, LIKE I SAID, I, I'VE BEEN THERE 40 YEARS ON THE 7 5 2 1 6 AREA.
I LIVE A FEW BLOCKS AWAY, SO I COULD PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT THERE ACCORDING TO WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
AND SO, BUT I THINK WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY YOU'RE TRYING TO HIT THE MARKET THAT IT'S A TWO CAR GARAGE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THE DRIVES, UM, THAT THEY SHOULD BE ORIENTED TO THE FRONT, BUT I THINK THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UM, AND FOR, I THINK IF I FOLLOWED THIS, AND CORRECT ME IF I UNDERSTOOD, DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, IS THERE A FRONT DOOR THAT'S GOING TO FACE ON DE SEAVER? NO, THEY WOULD BE ON THE SIDE.
AND SO IT'S TWO, TWO CAR GARAGES, UM, DOUBLE DRIVEWAYS.
SO ESSENTIALLY 40 ISH FEET OF CONCRETE MM-HMM
THE LOT'S APPROXIMATELY 50 FEET WIDE.
AND SO, AND THEN IT'S JUST CONTINUOUS ON ALL THREE LOTS ON THE FRONTAGE? THAT IS CORRECT.
MR. BATE, DID YOU HAVE A, UH, YEAH, JUST TO ADD A LITTLE COLOR, I DID HEAR THE RTN DISTRICT MENTIONED, AND TO
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KIND OF ELABORATE, UM, WE DON'T GET, WE DON'T SEE THE RTN DISTRICT VERY MUCH.UM, IT'S ONE OF THE, UH, UH, JUST LESS COMMON OF THE FORM-BASED DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT IS WITHIN ARTICLE 13, THE FORM-BASED DISTRICTS.
RTN ALLOWS A FEW DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES.
AND SO LET'S KIND OF VERY, VERY QUICK REFRESHER IS THAT FORM-BASED DISTRICTS, EACH DISTRICT ALLOWS CERTAIN BUILDING TYPES AND THEN THOSE BUILDING TYPES ALLOW CERTAIN USES WITH RTN, YOU CAN HAVE THE SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING TYPE, WHICH IS THAT WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, THE MANOR HOUSE PLATE BUILDING TYPE, WHICH IN OTHER DISTRICTS ALLOWS A LITTLE MORE DWELLING UNITS.
IN AN RTN IT WOULD ONLY BE TWO DWELLING UNITS, SO SIMILAR TO A DUPLEX.
AND IT ALSO ALLOWS THE, UH, TOWNHOUSE BUILDING TYPE, WHICH IS YOUR SORT OF TRADITIONAL, WHAT YOU WOULD SAY IS ATTACHED.
UM, TOWNHOUSES, ONE OF THE PROVISIONS FOR BOTH THE TOWNHOUSE BUILDING TYPE AS WELL AS THE MANOR HOUSE BUILDING TYPE, IS THAT TOWNHOUSE BUILDING TYPES NEED TO BE, THE GARAGES MUST BE ACCESSED FROM AN ALLEY AND FOR THE MANOR HOUSE PLACE TYPE, IF AN ALLEY IS PROVIDED AND DEVELOPED, WHICH I WOULD'VE TO DEFER TO ENGINEERING TO DETERMINE IF THESE ARE INDEED DEVELOPED ALLEYS.
UH, BUT IF THEY ARE DEVELOPED, THEN ALL VEHICULAR ACCESS MUST TAKE PLACE FROM THE ALLEY.
UH, SO RTN WOULD, I THINK PROVIDE CERTAIN ADDITIONAL GUIDELINES, LET'S SAY, OR GUARDRAILS POTENTIALLY ON A PLACEMENT OF GARAGES.
NOW I UNDERSTAND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT MAY, UH, HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, VISION FOR DESIGN THERE, BUT JUST TO ADD SOME COLORS, RTN DOES, UH, I THINK PROVIDE A FEW MORE GUARDRAILS THERE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND PARTICULARLY FOR GARAGE ACCESS VERSUS THE, UH, DA DISTRICT.
OH, OF COURSE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT ADDITIONAL CONTEXT.
I GUESS I, I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF I CONVERSATIONS, AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER WHEELER HAS A LOT OF THESE THAT COME INTO HER DISTRICT.
I HAVE A LOT THAT COME INTO MY DISTRICT AS WELL TO TRY TO ADD UNITS.
HAS THERE BEEN, UM, AND I THINK THE RTM DISCUSSION CAME TO TRY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP.
WHERE DO WE FIND THE MIDDLE GROUND? UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER STANDARDS TODAY THAT WOULD BE A STRAIGHT ZONING DISTRICT OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT.
IS THAT STILL CORRECT? UM, WELL, SO IT IS, I MEAN, LEMME TRY TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, UH, CORRECTLY HERE.
SO I MEAN THE RTNA, IT IS A STRAIGHT ZONING DISTRICT AND IT DOES HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL I YES, THAT'S ARE YOU'RE SAYING OUTSIDE OF THE FOREIGN-BASED DISTRICTS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
OUTSIDE OF THE FOREIGN-BASED DISTRICTS, THERE AREN'T REALLY ANY MAJOR DESIGN STANDARDS.
UM, OTHER THAN THE ONLY ONES I CAN THINK OF ARE SOME OF OUR MIXED INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT BONUS STANDARDS THAT COME INTO PLAY WITH MULTIFAMILY, BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE FOR THIS.
UH, SO YES, OUR BASE ZONING DISTRICTS GENERALLY DO NOT HAVE ANY DESIGN STANDARDS.
THEY SIMPLY PROVIDE THE MAXIMUM, UM, YARD LOT SPACE REGULATIONS.
ARTICLE 13, THE FORM-BASED DISTRICTS DO PUT IN A LITTLE MORE REQUIREMENTS ON MAXIMUM STORY HEIGHTS, MINIMUM STORY HEIGHTS, MINIMUM FLOOR, MINIMUM HEIGHTS, OVERALL, MAXIMUM HEIGHTS, UH, TRANSPARENCY, ET CETERA.
I I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS MY HOPE, BUT I, UM, THAT THERE WOULD BE A WAY TO FIND A MIDDLE GROUND BECAUSE AS COMMISSIONER WHEELER HAS SAID, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, AND THIS SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THEM, THAT IT'S A CORNER LOT, IT'S ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO DO THIS.
UM, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE DEVELOPER, AND I, I BELIEVE HIM, HE KNOWS HIS COMMUNITY, BUT IT WOULD SEEM LIKE THERE WOULD BE A PATH TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD BRIDGE CONCERNS ABOUT WALKABILITY, ABOUT INTEGRATING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
AND I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
IT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AS MEETING SOME OF OUR OTHER LONG-TERM GOALS AS WE LOOK AT INFILL HOUSING.
I'M GONNA START OFF WITH A QUESTION ON THE FIRST ROUND, THEN WE'LL GO TO A SECOND ROUND SO YOU UNDERSTAND.
IS IT MR. AGUILA? UH, UH, FELIPE.
UH, SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A MOTION TO RIGHT NOW TO DENY THE REQUEST TO REZONE TO DUPLEX, RIGHT? YES, I'M AWARE.
AND AND YOU'VE, YOU'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES EXPRESS THEIR CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THE DESIGN ELEMENTS IN THE, THE DUPLEX DISTRICT.
I MEAN, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT SORT OF HITTING PAUSE ON THIS FOR A BRIEF TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS COULD BE WORKED OUT THROUGH MAYBE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICT OR SOME OTHER TOOLS THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE? I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DUPLEX WAS YOUR INITIAL ASK, BUT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON SORT OF SHARPENING YOUR PENCILS TO SEE IF THERE'S A, MAYBE A COMPROMISE OTHER THAN DUPLEX HERE? I FEEL THAT WHAT I'M PROPOSING, IT'S, IT'S FITS IN THE AREA AND NOTHING ELSE.
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AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THOSE OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A PRODUCT THAT IS PRETTY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WANNA BUILD WITH MAYBE A, A FEW CHANGES HERE OR THERE.IT, IT MAY MAY NOT BE A DRASTIC CHANGE.
IT MAY BE, BUT WOULD YOU, BUT YOU'RE, I FEEL WE'RE ALREADY THERE, UH, TO PROCEED WITH THIS PROJECT IF IT GETS APPROVED AND WE COULD START AND AS SOON AS WE GET THE APPROVAL AND WE COULD START BUILDING AND WE COULD GET SOME TAXPAYERS MONEY IN YOUR, IN YOUR POCKETS.
UM, VERSUS PROLONGING IT A YEAR, TWO YEARS, EVERYTHING TAKES TIME.
AND, AND MY SUGGESTION IS, IS NOT TO PROLONG IT BY A YEAR OR TWO YEARS.
I'M TALKING ABOUT WEEKS TO, YOU KNOW, A A MONTH IS, IS THE SORT OF TIMEFRAME THAT I THINK MIGHT BE REASONABLE TO TRY AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF, UM, I'M READY TO START BUILDING AS SOON AS YOU APPROVE IT TODAY OR, OR SEE WHAT I ALSO HAVE TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY, WHETHER TO SELL IT TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER AND THEY GO THAT ROUTE BECAUSE I HAVE THIS PROPERTY FOR TWO YEARS, I'VE BEEN HOLDING ONTO IT BECAUSE OF THE FACTOR OF EVERYTHING AROUND THERE IS COMMERCIAL AND IT'S AN EFFECT MYSELF RESALE VALUE.
UM, I WILL JUST SAY THAT I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THE DUPLEX HERE.
UM, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, PREFER IT IF THERE WERE A, A BRIEF ATTEMPT TO SORT OF REACH A, A COMPROMISE.
BUT, UM, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT THE DUPLEXES, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY DO, ARE, ARE APPROPRIATE ON THIS SITE.
UM, DESPITE SOME OF MY, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS ABOUT THE DUPLEX DISTRICT.
SO I WON'T BE, UM, SUPPORTING THE MOTION TO DENY, UH, SECOND ROUND, UH, OR COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, YOU DIDN'T GET IN ON THE FIRST ROUND.
JUST HAVE A REAL QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, DID YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING? NO, SIR.
UH, SO WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, HOW DID YOU, THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THE PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE BUILDING? I WOULD, UH, THINK THEY ARE SCARED OF CHANGE.
UH, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO, UH, BUILT PROPERTIES IN SOUTH DALLAS WHERE THEY CHANGED HISTORICALLY.
AND, UM, IT JUST KEEPS PEOPLE FROM DEVELOPING BECAUSE OF THEIR SCARED OF THEIR, THEIR CHANGE BEING THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE.
THEY THINK ABOUT, UM, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THERE'S, THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN DALLAS AREA ANYMORE.
UH, PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE GONNA TO GET A HOUSE FOR TWO 50.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A BRAND NEW HOUSE, A BRAND NEW DUPLEX FOR TWO 50.
AND THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK.
YOU NEED TO BUILD SOMETHING ACCORDING TO WHAT'S BILLED.
THEY WANT ME TO BUILD SOMETHING ACROSS THE STREET.
LIKE, I MEAN, THOSE ARE CONSIDERED TINY HOMES NOW WHERE PEOPLE NEED TWO CAR GARAGE.
AND I WOULD PROBABLY HEAR THAT FROM THEM.
ANYONE ELSE ON THE FIRST ROUND? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION TONIGHT.
UM, I COULD, UM, HAVE CONSIDERED DUPLEXES AS A REASONABLE, UM, POSSIBILITY HERE, BUT IT WOULD'VE TAKEN DESIGN STANDARDS AND I'M NOT HEARING ANY FLEXIBILITY, YOU KNOW, WHATSOEVER.
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
ROUND NUMBER TWO, COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
UM, I MIGHT NEED TO HAVE ME ASKING, OH, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERING DESIGN STANDARDS IN, IN THE STRAIGHT ZONING CASE? I MEAN, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
YOU CAN'T, YOU SHOULDN'T CONSIDER THE DESIGN.
SO I, I WOULD SAY IF YOU SEE A RENDERING, WE'RE IN A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE AND YOU SEE A RENDERING, UH, STAFF DOESN'T ALWAYS PUT A LOT OF STOCK IN THOSE BECAUSE IN A GENERAL ZONE CHANGE, THEY ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO EXACTLY BUILD THAT.
THEY HAVE TO BUILD WHAT THE RULES ARE.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW HERE TO CONSIDER THE LACK THEREOF OF DESIGN STANDARDS AND FROM ONE DISTRICT TO ANOTHER.
UM, SO IF, IF, IF YOU'RE EVALUATING ONE GENERAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT HAS THEM AND ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE MANY, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN CONSIDER IT, IT, IT'S THE MORE UL GRANULAR THINGS OF DESIGN WHEN YOU SEE A RENDERING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT ENCODED IN EITHER OF THE DISTRICTS, THAT'S WHEN YOU SHOULD HAVE EXERCISE.
MORE CAUTION ABOUT, UH, DESIGN.
BUT JUST WITH, WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE TO A DEGREE.
UM, AND I THINK A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE BEEN, UH, PUT OUT THERE AND, AND I THINK THEN THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN
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DECIDE BETWEEN THE, YOU KNOW, ONE DISTRICT'S DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OR ONE'S DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS PLUS OTHER RULES THAT DO APPLY TO IT.UM, SO I'M THE DIS I'M FOR SOUTH DALLAS.
I'M THE COMMISSIONER FOR SOUTH DALLAS, AND, AND I'M, I'M ALSO SURE ABOUT THE DUPLEXES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING, BUT THEY ARE AFFORDABLE.
THEY DO HAVE DUPLEXES, MAKE IT AFFORDABLE.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF, WHAT COMMISSIONER RUBIN WAS SAYING THAT PAUSING THIS POSSIBLY TO DECEMBER SO THAT YOU CAN GET SOME CON SOME CONVERSATIONS? BECAUSE LIKELIHOOD OF APPROVAL TODAY, JUST BY GOING AROUND THE HORSESHOE, YOU WON'T GET THAT.
BUT IF YOU CAN WAIT A COUPLE OF WEEKS, HAVE SOME CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY ALSO, AND THEN COME BACK INSTEAD OF TODAY, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE DENIED TODAY, UM, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO START BUILDING.
SO THE, THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER A DUPLEX IS FIT HERE.
THE DUPLEX IS, COULD CONSIDERABLY DO FIT HERE, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT AREA, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WALKABILITY AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION, YOU'RE COMING RIGHT OFF OF A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
AND SO WALKING TO THE STORE COULD BE AN ISSUE AND THEY'RE ASKING, GIVE SOME FLEXIBILITY OR POSSIBLY WAIT, INSTEAD OF BEING DENIED TODAY, YOU HAVE TO REFILE, GO BACK IN.
UM, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME ZONING TYPES.
UH, UH, IN SOUTH DALLAS WE HAVE, UM, DIFFERENT DOLING TYPES AND DUPLEXES ARE BEING BUILT.
SO THE CONSIDERATION IS COULD YOU HOLD IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR ARE YOU SO BIT ON SAYING, HEY, EITHER TODAY OR NO WAY.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE DUPLEXES IS THE ISSUE.
IT'S TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND BELIEVE ME, WE'RE ASKING SOUTH DALLAS TO DO THE SAME THING EMBEDDED IN OUR, OUR AREA PLAN IS A DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND THAT'S WHY I SOLD THOSE PROPERTIES IN SOUTH DALLAS BECAUSE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE BOUGHT, ONE OF 'EM I THINK IS QUINCY CITY, OR I BELIEVE, UM, I SOLD THE PROPERTY BECAUSE I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY BECAUSE THEY GOT WOOD, WINDOWS, WOOD SIDING AND THE PROFITABILITY.
SO I FEEL LIKE I COULD START TOMORROW IF I GET APPROVED.
BUT IF WE'RE SENDING BACK IS JUST PUTTING RESTRICTIONS.
SO THE AREA THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT IS WEEKLY PLACE, BUT THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S A HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT THE REST OF SOUTH DALLAS.
HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION NEIGHBORHOOD.
'CAUSE TRULY WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE'RE SAYING WE DO THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLAY FOR DUPLEX.
CAN YOU HOLD OFF, MEET WITH YOUR COMMISSIONER, MAKE SOME CONSIDERATIONS, SOME SMALL CONSIDERATIONS TO GET WHAT YOU WANT TO SAYING POSSIBLY DECEMBER WORKING WITHIN THOSE GROUNDS.
YOU CAN'T BUILD, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH PERMITTING BEFORE DECEMBER.
LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT PEER MEETING
BUT, UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE THERE AND WE SHOULD JUST APPROVE IT AND, AND GO FROM THERE.
IF NOT, I, I'M GONNA SELL THE PROPERTY AND, AND IT'S SOMEONE ELSE DEAL WITH THE RESTRICTIONS OF, OF DESIGN WHERE THERE'S NOTHING AROUND THERE THAT'S, NOPE, NO ONE'S SAYING DON'T BUILD DUPLEXES.
NOBODY'S NOT SAYING BILL TWO, THEY'RE ASKING FOR GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN CONSIDERATION FOR YOUR TO, FOR THE POSSIBLE APPROVAL.
WHAT I PRESENTED IS TO CAR GARAGE IN THE FRONT.
AND IF THIS DESIGN IS GONNA AFFECT MYSELF OF THE PROPERTY AND ANY CHANGE OF DESIGN WOULD DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE PRICING OF THE PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THIS BODY, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN FORWARD DALLAS, IS TO HAVE SOME STANDARDS, SOME DESIGN STANDARDS OR CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE LOOK AT WITH EACH INFILL PROJECT LIKE THIS, BECAUSE WE GET SOME VERSION OF THIS REQUEST ALL OF THE TIME.
AND IF WE HAD SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS ON HOW TO DO GENERAL DENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AND BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO DISCUSSING WHEN WE DO THESE PROJECTS, I THINK THAT GIVES THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, UM, A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT AND CONSIDERING.
AND IT GIVES US SOME GUIDELINES.
AND I FRANKLY, I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA SELL GENERAL DENSITY INFILL DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THE DESIGN.
BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING HALF THIS BODY SAY IS I'M FINE WITH THE DUPLEX, I'M NOT FINE WITH THE FRONT YARD BEING CONCRETE.
AND THOSE DON'T GO OVER WELL IN MY PART OF THE TOWN EITHER.
THEY, THEY, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO PUT IN LIGHTING OR OTHER THINGS TO ADDRESS SOME SAFETY CONCERNS, BUT THAT'S THE,
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THE THING THAT WE'RE HUNG UP ON.AND IF YOU'RE INFLEXIBLE, YOU'RE INFLEXIBLE, THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS DECISION.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ROUTINELY LOOK AT IS GARAGE PLACEMENT, SETBACKS, HEIGHT ACCESS, AND WHEN YOU HAVE A SET LIKE THIS THAT HAS A PAVED ALLEY, IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT.
UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I I, I DID, UH, WANT TO ASK DAVID N NAVARRA IF HE WOULD CLARIFY FOR US THAT THE ALLEY COULD BE USED.
IS MR. NAVARRA AVAILABLE? UM, LET'S SEE, I SEE DAVID'S ONLINE.
DAVID, DID YOU CATCH THE QUESTION? I THINK THE QUESTION REALLY IS YES, SIR, ARE THE ALLEYS CONSIDERED DEVELOPED, UM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF USE FOR ACCESS? IS THAT YES, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I'M NOT THERE.
UM, I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GONNA BE READY TO SPEAK.
I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, THERE IS NOTHING THAT PRECLUDES THIS PROJECT TO HAVE ACCESS FROM A REAR ACCESS ALLEY AND WHICH IS WHAT WE SUPPORT AND WOULD ENCOURAGE ANY DEVELOPER AT PERMITTING.
UH, COMM UH, CHAIRMAN, UH, I, I I'D LIKE TO MAKE MY FINAL COMMENTS AND THEN YOU OH, YEAH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR COMMISSIONER FOR SECOND.
TH THIS CASE IS REALLY PAYING ME, UH, THIS IS NOT AN EASY DECISION FOR ME TO DENY THIS CASE TODAY.
I DID ASK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, AND HE WAS UNWILLING TO DO SO BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT HE WILL NOT CONSIDER ANYTHING OTHER THAN HAVING THE, THE DRIVEWAYS IN THE FRONT.
I, I, I, I, I JUST BELIEVE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PUTTING DENTS, UH, THAT TYPE OF A DUPLEX UNIT ON THIS TYPE OF STREET, UH, THAT IS A QUIET SINGLE FAMILY STREET AND HAVING ALL DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT, UH, IS, UH, REALLY NOT CONDUCIVE TO, YOU KNOW, BLENDING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU WILL.
AND, AND I THINK IT CAUSES PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, PARKING ON THE STREET.
I THINK IT PRO CAUSES PROBLEMS IF, IF WE EVER GO TO THE, THE, THE FRONT, UH, DELIVERY O ON, ON THE STREET DELIVERY, ON ON GARBAGE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S ONLY PICKED UP ON THE FRONT STREET, UM, HAVING ALL THOSE TRASH CANS, YOU KNOW, PILED UP, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF ALL OF THESE DRIVEWAYS.
AND, UM, I, I WISH THAT, UH, THERE WERE, UM, A, A MORE OF AN EFFORT HERE TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, CONDUCIVE TO PUTTING THIS EXTRA DENSITY INTO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT HERE.
AND SO THEREFORE, I DO ASK THAT WE DENY THIS CASE WITHOUT PREJUDICE TO GIVE THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK.
AND I DO BELIEVE IN MY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT THAT HE ULTIMATELY WILL BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HERE, UH, AT THE SITE IF IT REMAINS R SEVEN FIVE.
AND HE'S BUILT, UH, UH, MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES NEARBY.
AND, UH, AND I THINK THAT THE HOMES THAT HE'S SHOWN ME THAT HE'S BUILT WOULD FIT IN HERE MUCH BETTER THAN THE DUPLEX PLAN THAT HE'S SHOWN ME.
SO THEREFORE, I ASK, UH, YOU TO, YOU KNOW, DENY THIS MOTION WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, UM, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
I, I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT DESIGN STANDARDS IF THEY WERE A, IF THEY WERE AN OPTION HERE, THEY DON'T APPEAR TO BE THIS PARTICULAR SITE BEING AN EDGE CONDITION SITE, NOT AN INTERIOR TO AN AN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, I'M, FRANKLY, I'M A LITTLE LESS CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
UM, I, I WANT THE HOUSING AND, UH, I TAKE THE APPLICANT AT HIS WORD THAT, UH, HE KNOWS THE MARKET.
HE KNOWS WHAT, UM, THE, UH, RESIDENTS AND THE CUSTOMERS NEED AND WANT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND HE, I THINK, HAS, UH, LEGITIMATE RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE UTILIZATION OF THESE LOTS FOR BRAND NEW SINGLE FAMILY.
SO, UH, I WILL NOT BE, UH, SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? MR. CHAIR? COMMISSIONER HALL? YES.
YEAH, I, I'M LATE TO THE COMMENT GAME HERE, BUT I WANTED TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION.
I THINK THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BEST DISCUSSIONS I'VE EVER HEARD AROUND THE HORSESHOE AND SORT OF THE POINT TO WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW, I'D LIKE TO CAST HALF A VOTE FOR EITHER SIDE
SO I AM GOING TO RELUCTANTLY SUPPORT THE MOTION, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN PRACTICALLY BEGGING THE APPLICANT TO RECONSIDER JUST FOR A FEW WEEKS AND MAKE SOME DESIGN TWEAKS.
I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT,
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THIS, THIS IS NEEDED DENSITY.IT'S ON THE EDGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT SOME CONCESSIONS COULD BE MADE BY THE BUILDER IF HE WANTS TO MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION TO SELL THE LOTS THAT'S UP TO HIM.
SO I'M GONNA SAY I WILL RELUCTANTLY SUPPORT THE MOTION.
SO THE, THE AREA DISTRICT FOUR IS FAMILIAR TO ME.
UM, I TOOK TIME TO RIDE AROUND THE AREA RECENTLY, UM, BECAUSE THE LOTS, THE BLOCK ITSELF SEEMED EMPTY, AND THEN AS THE BLOCK CONTINUES, THERE WEREN'T MANY HOMES FACING THE STREET.
UM, AND THE HOMES THAT ARE FACING THE STREET HAVE THE OLD SCHOOL TWO ROWS FOR PARKING IN THE FRONT.
UM, WHICH AGAIN, RIGHT, ALLOWS FOR MUCH MORE YARD SPACE.
BUT, UM, GOING BACK TO THE VISION ZERO, UM, IT, IT PUTS CARS IN THE FRONT YARD THAT, IN OUR EXPERIENCE, POUR INTO THE DRIVEWAY.
UM, IT'S, THIS IS A DIFFICULT DECISION.
UM, ONE BECAUSE I WANNA SUPPORT FOR DALLAS AND ADDING, UM, DENSITY TO AREAS WHERE LOTS ARE EMPTY.
UM, ESPECIALLY THIS CLOSE TO A CORNER STORE, IT'S PERFECT FOR A FAMILY, BUT THE VISION ZEROS KEEP STANDING OUT TO ME.
AND AS WE'RE BUILDING NEW NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THESE, UM, THE RESTRICTIONS FOR CHILDREN, UH, PEDESTRIANS, BIKE RIDERS HAVE, HAVE, ARE GROWING MORE AND MORE AND BECOMING LESS OF A, A PRIORITY FOR OUR BUILDING.
SO, UM, IT, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE FOR ME, BUT, UM, I GUESS I'LL FLIP A COIN, BUT YEAH.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK IT OUT.
THIS IS A REALLY EMPTY LOT, A REALLY EMPTY BLOCK AND HOW IT FORMULATES IS GOING TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THERE'S A LOT TO CONSIDER HERE.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION BECAUSE LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT SAID, UH, I, I AM PERIOD TO QUITE A BIT OF THESE.
UM, WE HAVE SOME BEING BUILT BY AFFORDABLE HOUSE BUILDER, UM, IN THE, UM, MARYLAND, UH, OFF OF AL AL LIPKIN.
AND THEY'RE SELLING, PEOPLE ARE BUYING THEM.
THEY, UM, IT ACTUALLY IMPROVES AFFORDABILITY BECAUSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE NOT AFFORDABLE IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
DUPLEXES ARE NOW AFFORDABLE IN ORDER TO GET THOSE PRICE RANGES.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE BACKYARD VERSUS THE FRONT YARD.
UM, WE NEED YARDS SPACE, UH, THE ALLEY, YOU DO HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THERE, IF THERE IS SOME CONSIDERATION ABOUT THE ALLEY, UM, BECAUSE WE VERY SELDOM HAVE PAVE VALLEYS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING A DUPLEX, THAT PEOPLE WANT BACKYARDS SO THAT THEY CAN GATHER.
AND WHEN YOU PUT, WHEN YOU CHOOSE TO PUT A, UM, GARAGE IN THE REAR, ESPECIALLY ON A DUPLEX, YOU LOSE THE REAL LARGE YARD SPACE.
AND ON A BUSY STREET LIKE THIS, THE FRONT YARD, UM, UM, CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKE, WANT YOUR CHILDREN TO PLAY IN THE REAR INSTEAD OF THE FRONT YARD.
BUT ALSO I WOULD ASK IF, IF IT IS APPROVED THAT YOU POSSIBLY DON'T DO WHAT'S A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS ARE DOING AND MAKING THAT, THAT FRONT YARD THE, UH, DRIVEWAY SO SHORT THAT HOW, IF POSSIBLE, IT MOVES BACK FROM THE FRONT, FROM THE, FROM THE STREET BEING.
SINCE THAT, IT IS A MAJOR, I MEAN, IT'S A MAIN ARTERY STREET THAT'S COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND WHERE IT'S LOCATED NEXT TO COMMERCIAL.
AND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MANY UNDERSTAND WHEN HE'S SAYING, BECAUSE IT'S NEXT TO COMMERCIAL, THE PRICING GOES UP, IT'S TOO CLOSE TO A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
AND SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BEING CLOSE TO A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND BEING AN INTERIOR WHERE THERE'S RESIDENTIAL.
SO I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE DUPLEXES.
I DO WISH THAT YOU WOULD BECOME FLEXIBLE ON DESIGN STANDARDS BECAUSE MOVING FORWARD THERE'S AREAS THAT ARE ASKING FOR DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, LIKE I, UH, WE WANT THE BACKYARD FOR, FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY IN ENTERTAINMENT.
ALRIGHT, UM, I HAVE ONE JUST ADDITIONAL COMMENT, UM, OR MAYBE TWO.
UM, FIRST OFF, JUST ECHOING, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON'S URGING THAT AS WE DO CODE REFORM AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO LOOK AT AT DESIGN STANDARDS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT FOR OUR DUPLEX AND GENTLE DENSITY DISTRICTS, I THINK A PATTERN BOOK OR SOMETHING SIMILAR COULD GO A LONG WAY IN INCREASING FOLKS COMFORTS WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
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THAT DIFFERENT.I ALSO KIND OF WANTED TO DISCUSS THE INTERIM BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THAT WE DO COMPLETE THE CODE REFORM PROCESS.
UM, AND I REALIZED THAT THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, WAS FILED ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, SO KUDOS TO, TO STAFF FOR GETTING IT TO US VERY, VERY QUICKLY A YEAR OR TWO AGO, JUST TAKING A LOT LONGER FOR US TO GET CASES.
I WOULD JUST, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DIALOGUE LOOKS LIKE BETWEEN STAFF AND, AND THE APPLICANTS OR THE COMMISSIONER AND, AND THE APPLICANT ON THIS CASE.
BUT WHILE WE DO LIVE IN THIS SORT OF INTERIM PERIOD UNDER A CURRENT CODE, I, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO HAVE EARLY CONVERSATIONS WHEN THEY SEE APPLICATIONS LIKE THIS COME IN THAT PROPOSE SOME GENTLE DENSITY IN LIGHT OF THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED HERE TO TRY AND, YOU KNOW, GET THOSE ISSUES DISCUSSED UPFRONT AND ASAP SO EVERYONE CAN MAKE THEIR, THEIR, YOU KNOW, BEST DECISION POSSIBLE AND SHARPEN THEIR PENCILS, YOU KNOW, WELL BEFORE WE EVER GET THE HORSESHOE.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT FORM THAT TAKES, BUT I THINK WE OWE IT TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR APPLICANTS UNDER FORWARD DALLAS IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS GENTLE DENSITY WORK, WHICH I THINK WE HAVE COMMITTED TO, TO FORWARD DALLAS IS HAVING THOSE MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHEN AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS COMES IN.
SO AGAIN, I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT I THINK WE HAVE HAD A REALLY EXCELLENT DISCUSSION TODAY.
UM, AND APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S CONTRIBUTIONS.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO NOT FOLLOW STATUS RECOMMENDATION, BUT DENY THE APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
UM, AND LET'S TAKE A RECORD VOTE.
DISTRICT NINE, DISTRICT 10? NO.
DISTRICT 11, DISTRICT 12, DISTRICT 13? YES.
ALL RIGHT, THE MOTION CARRIES.
[6. 25-2868A An application for an amendment to Planned Development District 1113, on the east line of North Walton Walker Boulevard, north of West Davis Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to amended conditions. Applicant: DHFC The Crossing at Clear Creek Representative: Rob Baldwin Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 6 Z-25-000111]
MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM NUMBER SIX, MR. BATE.AGAIN, ITEM SIX IS CASE Z 2 5 1, 1 1.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1, 1 1 3 ON THE EAST LINE OF NORTH WALTON WALKER BOULEVARD, NORTHWEST DAVIS STREET, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED.
MR. BALDWIN? GOOD AFTERNOON, ROB BALDWIN.
UH, MR. BATES DID A GREAT JOB OF DETAILING THIS AT THE BRIEFING.
JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR SOME TEXT CHANGES IN THIS BECAUSE, UH, THE, WHEN THE PD WAS FIRST DONE, WE HADN'T DONE OUR ENGINEERING AND WE FOUND OUT THAT WE HAVE A SIX TO AN EIGHT FOOT RETAINING WALL ALL ALONG, UH, WALTON WALKER AND WE CAN'T PHYSICALLY MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO HAVE SIDEWALKS LEAD AND NOW TO IT BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T MEET A DA.
WE ARE PROVIDING A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG, UH, WALTON WALKER.
SO THERE WILL BE CONNECTIVITY FROM THE ENTRANCES, BUT NOT FROM THE THIS ONE BUILDING.
UH, I HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT IT.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR ANY OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS, JUST AS WAS BRIEFED.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON? ITEM NUMBER SIX, MR. CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES IN THE MATTER OF Z TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 1 1 1.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE AMENDED CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES IN SECTION 51 P DASH 13.03.
ADD A DEFINITION OF BIOSWALE IN SECTION 51 P DASH 3.03 TO READ A VEGETATED SHALLOW LANDSCAPE CHANNEL DESIGNED TO COLLECT, CONVEY, FILTER, AND INFILTRATE STORM WATER RUNOFF FROM IMPERVIOUS SURFACES AND INCLUDE THE BIOSWALE REQUIREMENT IN SECTION 51 P DASH 13.1 12 I.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL SEEING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[10. 25-2872A An application for MF-2(A) Multifamily District on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, between the north terminus of North Boulevard Terrace and Plymouth Road. Staff Recommendation: Approval of a TH-3(A) Townhouse District. Applicant: Christian Chernock Representative: Audra Buckley Planner: Martin Bate U/A From: September 4, 2025. Council District: 1 Z-25-000069]
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THAT, UM, WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE HERE ON NUMBER 10 AND IT WAS ANNOUNCED AT THE, UH, HEARING, OR I'M SORRY, THE, THE BRIEFING THAT THERE WOULD BE A MOTION TO HOLD THAT ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT.SO WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND KNOCK OUT NUMBER 10.
AN APPLICATION FOR MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT BETWEEN THE NORTH TERMINUS OF NORTH BOULEVARD TERRACE, AND PLYMOUTH ROAD STAFF'S.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE TH THREE A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT.
ARE YOU CERTAIN ANYONE HERE, UM, TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION? ANYONE HERE IN OPPOSITION? COME ON DOWN.
MY NAME IS LAURA EEL AND I AM THE OWNER OF STEVENS PARK RESERVE.
A THREE LOT R SEVEN FIVE ZONED SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
I OPPOSE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT CONCERNS, CONTEXTUAL ISSUES AND NEIGHBORHOOD EQUITY CONCERNS.
100% OF THE DRAINAGE FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL FLOW INTO COOMBS CREEK.
INCREASING THE DEVELOPMENT DENSITY BEYOND R 75 WILL WORSEN DRAINAGE INTO THE COOMBS CREEK, WHICH IS ALREADY EXPERIENCING FLOODING AND EROSION ISSUES.
COOMBS CREEK IS GRADUALLY BEING DAMAGED BY EROSION, CAUSED BY SUDDEN SURGES OF RAINWATER RUNOFF THAT ARE CHANNELED TO THE STREAM BED TOO QUICKLY.
DUE TO THE INCREASING IMPERVIOUS SURFACES WITHIN THE WATERSHED, IT IS CRUCIAL FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO CAPTURE AND RETAIN RAINWATER ON THEIR SITES.
THEREFORE, IF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FAILS TO PREVENT RAPID SURGES OF RAINWATER RUNOFF INTO THE STREAM BED, DUE TO THE INCREASED DENSITY BEYOND THE EXISTING R SEVEN FIVE ZONING, THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH STREAM BED EROSION CONTROL.
THE PROPOSED SPOT DENSITY ZONING OR INCLUSIONARY ZONING IS LIKELY TO STRAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S LOCAL INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING ROADS AND UTILITIES ALLOWING HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT NORTH TERRACE BOULEVARD NEIGHBORHOOD BY INTRODUCING MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING ALONGSIDE THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TOWN HOMES CURRENTLY RESIDENTS ALONG NORTH TERRACE BOULEVARD ENJOY A QUIET COMMUNITY CHARACTERIZED BY A LOWER POPULATION DENSITY IN FEWER HOMES.
THE PROPOSED HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT WILL LEAD TO INCREASED NOISE, OVERCROWDING AND TRAFFIC, ALL OF WHICH COULD DESERVE THE CULTURAL INTEGRITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DECLINE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN A SHORT WALKING DISTANCE.
FROM THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, RECENT DEVELOPMENTS HAVE EMERGED ECHELON AT RIVER SEAN BLUFFS WITH 12 UNITS TO THE ACRE PD 7 68 WITH 14 UNITS TO THE ACRE AND HIGH GROVE AT WEST KESSLER HEIGHTS WITH 22 UNITS TO PER ACRE.
THE CURRENT DENSITY FOR THE 7 5 2 1 1 ZIP CODE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS 4,131 PEOPLE PER SQUARE MILE, WHICH IS ALREADY 8% HIGHER THAN THE AVERAGE DENSITY IN DALLAS.
THEREFORE, INCREASING THE DENSITY BEYOND THE EXISTING R SEVEN FIVE ZONING IS INEQUITABLE TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS YESENIA SERRANO AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE RECENTLY FORMED NORTH BOULEVARD TERRACE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORS TO SPEAK AGAINST THE REZONING REQUESTS FOR MF TWO FOR THE PROPERTIES ON NORTH BOULEVARD TERRACE.
I WANNA START BY SAYING WE'RE NOT AGAINST NEW DEVELOPMENT.
WE UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS GROWING AND WE WANNA SEE GOOD THINGS HAPPEN IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THIS PROJECT AS IT IS CURRENTLY PLANNED, JUST DOES NOT FIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A SMALL QUIET, I'M SORRY, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS SMALL, QUIET AND MADE UP OF FAMILIES WHO'VE BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS.
MY MOTHER HAS BEEN IN HER HOME FOR SINCE 1994.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THE STREETS ARE QUITE NARROW.
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CHANGING THE ZONING TO MF TWO WOULD ALLOW, WOULD ALLOW A LOT MORE UNITS THAN WHAT OUR AREA WAS BUILT FOR.IT DOESN'T MATCH WHAT'S ALREADY HERE AND IT DOESN'T FIT THE GOALS OF FORWARD DALLAS, WHICH TALKS ABOUT GROWTH THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THE AREA AND RESPECTS THE CHARACTER OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ARE ALSO BIG CONCERNS FOR US, EVEN WITHOUT THE BRIDGE.
ADDING MORE HOUSING MEANS MORE CARS.
OUR KIDS WALK TO AND FROM SCHOOL.
PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS IN THE EVENINGS AND MANY OF US, I'M SORRY, MANY OF US LIKE TO WALK, LIKE TO BIKE OR WALK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MORE CARS WILL MAKE THAT LESS SAFE FOR EVERYONE.
WE'RE ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
OUR DRAINAGE, PARKING AND UTILITIES WERE DESIGNED FOR SMALLER NUMBER OF UNITS, SMALLER NUMBER OF HOMES.
I'M SORRY, THIS LEVEL OF DENSITY COULD CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE.
DALLAS SAYS DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE FAIR, SUSTAINABLE, AND FIT THE COMMUNITY.
THIS REZONING DOES NOT DO THAT.
WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO GROWTH, WE JUST WANT IT TO MAKE SENSE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE.
SO WE ASK YOU TO PLEASE DENY THIS REZONING REQUEST TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER OR TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER OPTION THAT BETTER FITS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOLLOWS THE GOALS OF FORWARD DALLAS.
AND MS. SERRANO, COULD YOU PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? UH, 46.
UH, MY NAME IS JOSEPH BECKHAM, UM, 8 0 8 NORTHAMPTON ROAD.
UH, I'M, UM, BOARD MEMBER AND PAST PRESIDENT FOR WEST KESSLER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS A 5 0 1 C3 VOLUNTARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, I'M BOARD MEMBER AND PAST PRESIDENT OF COOMBS CREEK CONSERVANCY.
IT'S AN ECOLOGICALLY FOCUSED 5 0 1 C3.
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, MR. TEMPORARY CHAIR
UM, EVEN THOUGH WE HEARD THIS CASE MIGHT BE HELD OVER, I DIDN'T WANNA MISS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, EVEN IF ONLY FOR THREE MINUTES.
WHAT I WANNA SHARE ARE THINGS THAT WE RARELY GET A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON WHEN A CASE IS ACTUALLY HEARD AND THAT STAFF WON'T REPORT, UH, OR ADDRESS TO YOU EITHER.
FOR US IT'S NOW BEEN A 10 YEAR PROCESS, THE FOURTH APPLICATION, THE SAME APPLICANT, THE SAME PARCELS, AND AT THIS POINT IT FEELS LESS LIKE DUE PROCESS AND MORE LIKE COMMUNITY HARASSMENT.
FOR THE VERY FIRST COMP FROM THE VERY FIRST APPLICATION DURING COUNCILMAN GRIGGS, UH, TENURE AND AS THE THEN PRESIDENT OF THE WESTCHESTER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I'VE ALWAYS SOUGHT FOR SOME SORT OF MIDDLE GROUND, A BALANCE WHERE THE CITY COULD EXPAND ITS HOUSING OPTIONS AND TAX BASE WHERE THE APPLICANT COULD ACHIEVE MEANINGFUL DENSITY AND WHERE THE COMMUNITY COULD SEE ITS LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ADDRESSED.
BUT IN 10 YEARS, THE APPLICANT HAS NEVER HINTED AT MOVING TOWARDS THE CENTER.
IN FACT, THIS PAST MONDAY WE CALLED A MEETING WITH COUNCILMAN WEST'S OFFICE, THE DEVELOPER, THE LEADERSHIP FROM FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SURROUND THIS, UH, AREA, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST TO SEE IF WE MIGHT CRAFT A PLAN THAT WOULD CHECK MOST OF THE BOXES FOR EVERYONE.
BUT EVEN AFTER LEARNING THAT CITY STAFF NO LONGER SUPPORTS MF TWO AND THAT COUNCILMAN WEST HAS ELIMINATED THE CONNECTOR BRIDGE DUE TO COST OVERRUNS, THE APPLICANT STILL INSISTS THAT MF TWO IS BEST FOR EVERYBODY.
THERE HAS BEEN NO MOVEMENT, NONE TOWARD COMPROMISE.
I TRULY BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WILL TRY TO CONVINCE YOU TO IGNORE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS.
UM, IT'S AS IF IT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, THIS IS AN ASK, NOT A TELL.
THE APPLICANT IS ASKING THE CITY'S PERMISSION TO EXPAND HIS ENTITLEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY AND ASKING THE COMMUNITY TO LIVE WITH THOSE CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE WE CONS CONSISTENTLY HAVE EXPO EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO EXCESSIVE UPZONING, UH, OVER THE LAST DECADE.
UH, WE'RE REFERRED TO AS NIMBYS, BUT I THINK THERE'S A BETTER ACRONYM FOR ME AND MY NEIGHBORS BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC YES, IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC NO.
I PROPOSE WIM B AND THAT STANDS FOR WHAT'S IN MY BACKYARD.
THE WHAT IS AN IMPORTANT DATA POINT IN THIS CON CONVERSATION, THE APPLICANT AND STAFF WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE'S MULTI-FAMILY NEARBY.
THAT'S TRUE, BUT WHAT'S NOT MENTIONED IS IT'S SEPARATED BY A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT FROM, WITH AN IMMENSE FORCELIKE VEGETATIVE BARRIER THAT ENVELOPS BOTH SIDES OF COOMBS CREEK.
THAT NATURAL BUFFER WAS INTENTIONAL, IT'S EFFECTIVE AND IT CREATES TRANSITION BETWEEN TWO DISSIMILAR DISTRICTS.
ALSO IMPORTANT, THE STAFF REPORTS.
NO MENTION OF THE FOUR ACRE CITY OWNED PROPERTY JUST NORTH OF THIS SITE WITH A SENSITIVE CREEK MANDERING THROUGH IT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 10? I THINK WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ONLINE.
IS THAT PERSON ONLINE? ALRIGHT, MR. BENAVIDES? I'M SORRY, MR. JOHNSON? YES.
I LIVE AT 7 2 6 NORTH HAMPTON ROAD.
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YOU, AGAIN, LIKE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THIS MAY BE, UH, HELD OVER.I DIDN'T EXACTLY PUT TOGETHER, UH, NOTES OR, OR PLANNED TALKING POINTS IN ORDER.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, SO I THINK I JUST SIMPLY WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I GENERALLY AM OPPOSED AS, UH, THE OTHERS, UH, WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME, UH, TO, UH, MF TWO REZONING AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF TH THREE MAY BE CLOSER, UH, TO WHAT IS APPROPRIATE IN THE AREA, BUT I THINK THERE'S MORE, UH, CERTAINLY MORE DISCUSSIONS THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE WITH THE DEVELOPER, UH, BEFORE GETTING TO SOME SORT OF GENERAL, UH, CONSENSUS ON EVEN THAT BEING APPROPRIATE.
UM, I THINK AS, AS A PREVIOUS SPEAKER MENTIONED, IT SEEMED LIKE THERE'S, IT DOES SEEM LIKE FROM THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER, THERE MAY BE SOME, YOU KNOW, SORT OF GENERAL OPPOSITION ON ON HIS PART TO, UM, ANYTHING OTHER THAN MF TWO.
UH, BUT I THINK THAT'S SORT OF UNKNOWN.
AND, AND THUS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FACTORS I THINK IN, IN THE NEED, UH, HOPEFULLY TO, TO HOLD THIS OVER, I'LL SORT OF ECHO A COUPLE OTHER POINTS.
BECKHAM HAD MENTIONED, I THINK YOU KNOW, THE, THE CREEK AS A BARRIER TO THE OTHER, UH, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE CLOSE BY, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, IS THERE THAT THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, AREA IS AT THE END OF A, A CURRENT DEAD END STREET.
UH, THERE ARE REAL CONCERNS WITH, UH, SIGNIFICANT INCREASED DENSITY, UH, CAUSING REAL, UH, UH, PROBLEMS WITH, WITH TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD.
SO I'LL SORT OF STOP THERE BEFORE TIME EXPIRES, BUT, UH, I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON? ITEM NUMBER 10? ALRIGHT, SEEING NO SPEAKERS, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? UH, YES, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z 25 DASH SIX NINE, I MOVE THAT WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER THE 20TH.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? CAN I ASK, COULD I ASK A QUESTION? I'M GONNA GO TO COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FIRST, THEN I'LL COME TO YOU.
YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY ARE WE HOLDING IT? HAVEN'T WE SEEN THIS APPLICATION SEVERAL TIMES AND WE'VE GOT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT COME DOWN HERE EVERY TIME.
ARE WE ANTICIPATING SOMETHING'S GONNA CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER OR IS THERE SOME OTHER REASON THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES HERE? IF I YES, I IS, IT IS THE HOLD AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
BUT MS. BUCKLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT? THANK YOU.
DO I NEED TO SAY MY NAME AND EVERYTHING INTO THE RECORD? YES, PLEASE.
1414 BELLEVUE STREET, SUITE ONE 50, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 5.
WE ARE GONNA BE MAKING SOME CHANGES BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD AT THE LAST COMMUNITY MEETING.
I DIDN'T GET TO ATTEND THAT ONE, BUT I GOT THE, THE CLIFF NOTES FROM THE APPLICANT AND ALSO FROM, UH, SOMEBODY FROM CHAD WEST OFFICE THAT KIND OF FILLED ME ON WHAT HAPPENED.
SO THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME DISCUSSIONS AND SOME CHANGES TO THIS APPLICATION.
AND THIS HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU TWICE, SO THIS IS THE SECOND TIME.
SO, AND WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN COMMISSIONER RIGHT NOW, SO
WE ARE STILL PLANNING WITH IT, SO, BUT IT WILL NOT BE M IF TWO CAN, CAN I ASK ONE OF THE SPEAKERS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE DOCTOR, COULD YOU COME UP? YES.
COMMISSIONER, DO YOU FEEL THAT Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE MORE LIKELY TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT OB OBVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE DETAILS YET FROM THE DEVELOPER, BUT, UH, IF IT IS TH THREE ZONING WELL, UM, OR OR DO YOU GUYS STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? WE'VE, WE'VE ALWAYS LOOKED FOR A WIN WIN WIN, UH, ON THIS FROM, FROM THE VERY FIRST, UH, EPISODE, AND IT HAS BEEN FOUR APPLICATIONS.
IT'S, IT'S MULTIPLE PARCELS, IT'S ALL SAME APPLICANT.
UM, WHICH YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THERE'S FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE AFFECTED.
SO I DON'T SPEAK FOR ALL OF THEM, BUT WE ALL HAVE, WE HAVE FOUR OFFICIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE ALL IN, IN, IN COLLABORATION.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR MIDDLE GROUND.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DENSITY ON NORTH BOULEVARD TERRACE, WHO'S OBVIOUSLY RIDING THE HAIRS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT CURRENT DENSITY, EVEN THOUGH SOME TH THREE EXISTS THERE, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, TH THREE ALLOWS FOR SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX THAT CURRENT DENSITY AND HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IS SIX UNITS PER THE ACRE.
SO IS THE ANSWER TH THREE STERN TO STEM OR IS THE ANSWER
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TH THREE IN A MIX OF, YOU KNOW, SOME SINGLE FAMILY STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS AN APPROPRIATE DENSITY? UH, AND I THINK THAT'S, IF THEY'RE MAKING SOME SORT OF MOVE TOWARD THE CENTER NOW, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.IF IT'S CURRENTLY AT SIX UNITS PER THE ACRE AND OBVIOUSLY 30 PLUS IS NOT APPROPRIATE, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE IS THAT MIDDLE GROUND? AND WE JUST HAVE NOT HEARD ANY, ANY CLUE OF WHAT THAT IS.
BUT THE BRIDGE IS DEFINITELY OUT OF THE MIX NOW, UH, UH,
SO THE ONLY ENTRANCE IN X OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE THE NORTH.
SO ACCESS IS THAT THEY WERE SORT OF USING TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE MF TWO, UH, INCREASES NOW GONE AND, YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO KEEP THIS FOCUS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE, THIS PARTICULAR ZONING INVOLVES, UM, SEVEN PARCELS.
UM, IT'S ONE APPLICATION, BUT THE 500 POUND GORILLA IN THE ROOM THAT ALL FOUR NEIGHBORS ARE WORRIED ABOUT, NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WORRIED ABOUT.
'CAUSE HE HAS TWO AND A HALF ADJACENT ACRES THAT BELLY UP TO HAMPTON.
AND SO WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT? NO CLUE, NO INDICATION, NOTHING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SKEPTICAL OF WHAT'S COMING.
SO I I I PRESUME THAT, UH, Y'ALL ARE REALLY TAKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSIDERATIONS INTO YES.
INTO REFACTORING YOUR DECISION.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY, AUD? WELL, THAT'S ONE OF THE CHANGES WE'RE GONNA MAKE IS WE'RE GONNA GO GO AHEAD AND EXPAND THE BOUNDARY OF THE REQUEST IN ADDITION TO MAKING SOME CHANGES WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE AREA OF REQUEST.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING OUT NOW.
'CAUSE WE HAVE TO REDO THE GIS AND HAVE TO HAVE IT RENO BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE EXPANDING THE, THE DISTRICT TO THAT, TO THE OTHER PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S TO THE EAST MM-HMM
THAT WAY WE CAN GET IT ALL DONE IN ONE SHOT INSTEAD OF DIVIDING IT UP INTO TWO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU.
CHAIR, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? DOES, DOES THE SPINNING LIKE THAT REQUIRE RE NOTICING? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR, FOR STAFF.
FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, YES.
IF THE AREA OF REQUEST WERE TO EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES OF OF IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A RE-NOTICE.
UM, IF THEY WANT TO KEEP IT IN THE SAME CASE NUMBER, UM, SIMPLY BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY I SENT OUT A NOTICE FOR EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, 300 FEET AWAY FROM THIS LINE AND THE LINE MOVES THIS WAY.
WELL NOW THAT THE NOTICE HAS TO GO THAT WAY, PLUS, UH, IF IT GOES OVER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD OF SIZE, THEN IT INCREASES THE RADIUS.
UM, I THINK IN THIS CASE IT WOULD STAY IN THE SAME DISTANCE, BUT YES, IT WOULD REQUIRE RENO.
AND WHEN ARE WE PROPOSING TO HEAR THIS AGAIN? NOVEMBER 20TH.
AND, AND JUST A REMINDER TO EVERYONE THAT THE MOTION ON FLOOR IS THE, THE MOTION TO HOLD AND NOT THE SUBSTANCE OF THE, DOES THAT GIVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THE RE IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO SUBMIT, UH, THE AMENDMENT TO THEIR APPLICATION AND WE, IF WE GET THAT IN TIME, WE WOULD BASICALLY NEED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN TO GIVE OURSELVES SOME BUFFER, LET'S SAY 13 DAYS BEFORE THE NOVEMBER 20TH HEARING, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RE-NOTICE IT FOR THAT.
IF ALL OF THAT OCCURS AFTER THAT DEADLINE, THEN THE CASE WOULD COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND I THINK WE WOULD JUST NEED TO EITHER REQUEST TO MOVE TO RE-NOTICE IT OR IT WOULD JUST HOLD IT AGAIN AND THEN WE WOULD RE-NOTICE IT FOR THE SUBSEQUENT HOLD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, SEEING THAT MR. CHAIR? OH YES.
UH, MAY I ASK A QUESTION OF MR. BAY? YES.
UH, MR. BAY, UH, YOUR ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR APPROVAL, UH, WITH THE TOWN HOME DISTRICT.
WAS THAT CONTINGENT ON THAT CONNECTOR BRIDGE BEING BUILT TO, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY OUR ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION, THAT WAS APPROVAL OF NF TWO.
THERE WAS A HOST OF FACTORS THAT WENT INTO THAT, UM, RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK THAT THE POTENTIAL OF THE CONNECTOR THERE IS CERTAINLY, I THINK IT WAS ONE OF MANY FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, WITHIN THE REPORT WITH SOME OF THE, PARDON ME WITHIN THE REPORT, UH, SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS AND CHANGES THAT WE MADE IN THE REPORT, UH, A LOT OF THAT REFLECTED A CHANGE IN STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING OF SB EIGHT 40.
UH, WHEN THE REPORT WAS WRITTEN, IT WAS, I BELIEVE, BEFORE SB EIGHT 40 CAME INTO EFFECT, BUT MORE, MORE PRECISELY IT WAS BEFORE STAFF HAD A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE, UH, PROVISIONS OF SB EIGHT 40.
UM, IF YOU WERE TO REVIEW THE PRIOR VERSION OF THE REPORT, THERE'S A LOT OF REFERENCES TO RPS AND WHATNOT THAT I THINK WOULD'VE PUT A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS, INHERENT CONSTRAINTS ON THE BUILD SITE.
UH, MANY OF THOSE NO LONGER NECESSARILY APPLY OR APPLY IN THE SAME MANNER UNDER SB EIGHT 40 AND UNDER THAT LIGHT.
STAFF CHOSE TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THE REQUEST AND THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS HERE.
AND AS SUCH, OUR RECOMMENDATION CHANGE
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TO REFLECT THAT.JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT AGAIN, THAT WE'RE ON A MOTION JUST TO HOLD AND NOT ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MATTER.
SO IF YOU CAN KEEP YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS TO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO HOLD? ALRIGHT, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO HOLD THE CASE UNTIL NOVEMBER 20TH.
ANY OF THOSE SAY NAY? THE MOTION CARRIES.
[7. 25-2869A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit 2544 for an alcoholic beverage establishment limited to a bar, lounge, or tavern and a commercial amusement (inside) limited to a dance hall on property zoned FWMU-3-SH Walkable Urban Mixed Use Form Subdistrict with a shopfront overlay in Planned Development District 595, on the northeast line of Botham Jean Blvd, southeast of South Blvd. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to site plan and conditions. Applicant: Cee Gilmore Planner: Mona Hashemi Council District: 7 Z-25-000020]
GO TO CASE NUMBER SEVEN.ALL RIGHT, LET'S JUST HAVE STAFF READ THE CASE IN THEN WE CAN TAKE SPEAKERS.
MS. HASHMI Z 25, UH, 0 0 0 0 20.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
25 44 FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT.
LIMITED TO A BAR, LUNCH OR TOWER AND A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL ON PROPERTY ZONE.
FWMU TREE, SH WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE FORM.
SUBDISTRICT WITH A SHOP FRONT OVERLAY IN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 5 9 5 ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF BOTTOM, BOTTOM.
GENE BOULEVARD, SOUTHEAST OF SOUTH BOULEVARD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
UM, ARE YOU THE APPLICANT SIR? YES, I AM.
WE'LL START OFF WITH YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, I'M NOT ASKED FOR ANY CHANGES.
WHEN I FIRST CAME, YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED FIVE YEARS FOR A RENEWAL.
SO I'M BACK RENEWING, SO I WANT TO SEE IF I CAN GET FIVE YEARS NOW.
DOES THAT CONCLUDES YOUR COMMENTS? YES, THAT CONCLUDES.
AND DID YOU PROVIDE, OH, YOU DID PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS GREEN.
UM, ANY, ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER REALER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION.
UM, TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT WITH THE CHANGES OF ONE YEAR INSTEAD OF FIVE YEARS WITH A NON AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND TO FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT FOR ONE YEAR AND NO AUTO RENEWALS.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, I SEE YOU GOING FOR THE MICROPHONE.
CAN I ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, WE CAN
I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE REASON THE AREA IS GOING THROUGH A CHANGE AND THE COMMUNITY IS RECOMMENDING THAT ALL BARS, GRILLS, AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE FACILITIES, UH, GO THROUGH A ONE YEAR PROCESS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHEELER, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT TO, UM, FOLLOW STACKS.
RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD WITH NO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS.
[8. 25-2870A An application for an amendment to Planned Development District 166 and to rezone the southwest portion of Planned Development District 166 to MF-2(A) Multifamily District on property between La Prada Dr and Shiloh Road, south of Blyth Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval of the amendment to PD 166, subject to amended conditions and amended development plan and 2) Approval of MF-2(A) Multifamily District on a portion. Applicant: Nexus Recovery Center Foundation Representative: Rob Baldwin, Baldwin Associates Planner: Teaseia Blue, B.Arch, MBA U/A From: September 18, 2025. Council District: 7 Z245-151 / Z-25-000054]
EIGHT.ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS, UH, Z 2 45 DASH 1 51.
IT'S APPLICATION FOR A AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1 66 AND TO REZONE THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
1 66 2 MF TWO MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY BETWEEN LA PRADA DRIVE AND SHILOH ROAD, SOUTH OF BRUTE BLADEN DRIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT OF THE PD FOR 1 66, SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS AND AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF THE MF TWO MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT FOR THE PORTION OF THE SOUTHWEST REMOVAL FROM THE PD.
ROB BALDWIN 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE, I THINK LAST YEAR, WE CAME IN WITH A
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MINOR AMENDMENT ON ON THIS.THIS IS FOR THE NEXUS, UH, RECOVERY CENTER.
UH, THEY ARE AN ORGANIZATION THAT HELP WOMEN WITH CHILDREN, UH, WITH, UH, EITHER ADDICTION ISSUES, ALCOHOLISM, PSYCHIATRIC ISSUES, UH, BASICALLY A PLACE FOR THEM TO GO, A SAFE PLACE THEY LIVE IN DORMITORIES AND GET, GET THE HELP THEY NEED.
UH, THIS IS FOR AN EXPANSION OF THAT.
UH, WE ARE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING THE FLOOR AREA, BUT NOT ALL AT ONE TIME.
AND WE'RE ALSO, THE WAY THIS ORIGINAL PD WAS DONE, THERE WAS A PORTION OF A TRACK TO WHAT WAS SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY WITH WAS NOT OWNED BY NEXUS.
WE ARE CULLING THAT OUT OF THE PD WITH THEIR, THAT OWNER'S, UH, UH, SUPPORT.
AND THAT PORTION THAT THE OF THIS PD WAS ZONED MULTIFAMILY WHO WERE MAKING THAT A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT.
I WILL BE REPRESENTING THOSE PEOPLE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS IN FRONT OF YOU, REZONING THEIR ENTIRE PROPERTY.
UH, ONCE WE GET THROUGH WORKING WITH, UH, FERGUSON ROAD INITIATIVE ON THAT, UH, THE FERGUSON ROAD INITIATIVE IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
WE'VE HAD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND NO OF NO OPPOSITION.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER REALER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I DO HAVE A MOTION.
UM, IN THE ITEM ITEM, UH, NUMBER Z 2 45 DIET DASH 1 5 1, ALSO KNOWN AS Z DASH TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 5 4.
I'M GOING TO FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL ON ITEM ONE AND TWO, UM, APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT OF PD 1 66, SUBJECT TO THE AMENDED CONDITIONS AND AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND ALSO THE APPROVAL, UH, MF TWO MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE PORTION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IT'S, IT'S 1:52 PM WHY DON'T WE TAKE A OR 1 53? WHY DON'T WE TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND BE BACK AT 2 0 3? THANK YOU.
IT IS 2:04 PM AND THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION IS BACK ON THE RECORD.
[9. 25-2871A An application for a MU-3 Mixed Use District, with consideration of FWMU-5 Form subdistrict, on property zoned FWMU-3 Form subdistrict with a shopfront overlay within Planned Development District No. 595 South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the north corner of Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. and Colonial Ave. Staff Recommendation: Consideration of FWMU-5 Form Subdistrict within PD 595 Applicant: Apostle Raphael Adebayo - Winners Assembly Church Representative: EE Okpa Planner: Teaseia Blue, B. Arch, MBA U/A From: July 10, 2025. Council District: 7 Z245-200 / Z-25-000073 ]
GO TO CASE NUMBER NINE.ITEM NUMBER NINE IS Z 2 45 DASH 200 IS ALSO Z DASH 25 73.
IT'S A APPLICATION FOR A MU THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION OF A-F-W-M-U FIVE FORM DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE FWMU THREE FORM, UM, DISTRICT SUBDISTRICT, SORRY, WITH A, UH, SHOPFRONT OVERLAY WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 95, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD, BOULEVARD AND COLONIAL AVENUE STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS CONSIDERATION OF A-F-W-M-U DASH FIVE FORM SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, UM, 5 95.
UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON, LET, LET'S TRY SOMETHING NEW.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER NINE AND YOU'RE IN SUPPORT, WHY DIDN'T EVERYONE COME ON DOWN AND, AND, AND LINE UP TO SPEAK SO WE CAN TACKLE THIS EFFICIENTLY? AND THEN IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION, WE'LL WE'LL COME TO YOU AFTER THOSE FOLKS.
UH, AND CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE? THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM.
I LIVE IN, UH, DISTRICT 11 1 4 4 0 3.
OVERVIEW CIRCLE, DALLAS, TEXAS.
I AM THE, UH, ZONING CONSULTANT FOR, FOR THE OWNER.
UH, I'M HERE TO, TO, UH, PERSUADE THE COUNCIL.
I MEAN, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS TO CONSIDER CHANGING THIS ZONING TO ALLOW THE USE WE ARE PROPOSING FOR
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THE SITE.IN MY 30 SOMETHING YEARS LIVING IN DALLAS, NO NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS HAPPENED ON MLK.
UH, THE REASON THAT I TOOK ON THIS PROJECT IS TO SHOW THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE STORY ON SOUTH DALLAS.
I, I DO REAL ESTATE ALL OVER AND I BELIEVE THAT MLK NEEDS TO SEE THINGS OTHER THAN WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON MLK.
IS IT 200 AND, UH, SOMETHING MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT THAT WE BELIEVE IF THE ZONING IS GRANTED, UH, WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS, WE'RE ASKING FOR 25 STORIES.
YOU KNOW, WE CAN SETTLE FOR 20 OR 18.
UH, THIS IS GONNA BE A MIXED USE.
UH, IT'S GONNA HAVE A, A BANK, IT'S GONNA HAVE A HOTEL, IT'S GONNA HAVE, UH, CONDOS THAT WILL BE OWNED, IT'S GONNA HAVE A RETAIL SPACE.
UM, AND THEN I'M BRINGING IN A CANCER TESTING, UH, A PROSTATE CANCER TESTING CENTER TO OCCUPY A FLOOR.
AND, AND, AND THIS IS, UH, UH, A RESEARCH FACILITY OWNED BY A BLACK GUY WHO IS OUT OF SAN ANTONIO COMING IN TO PUT THIS SERVICE ON IN THAT BUILDING.
AND I BELIEVE THE BUILDING, WHEN IT'S BUILT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A NUISANCE.
WE ARE NOT ASKING TO ACQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL LAND.
WE HAVE 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOD AND WITH A GOOD FOUNDATION TO RATIO THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE BUILT IS CLOSER TO 45.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT'S GONNA CREATE SOME, UH, DISRUPTIONS.
YOU KNOW, THE THINGS AROUND IT ARE MOSTLY RETAIL WITH SOME VACANT CAN, RESIDENTIAL LOTS BEHIND IT AND SOME OTHER HOMES.
AND WHEN WE, IF YOU OR WHEN YOU APPROVE THE ZONING THAT WE WILL GET INTO THE DESIGN ON GETTING THE PERMIT, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD SO THAT YOU, IF YOU APPROVE IT TODAY, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GONNA START BREAKING GROUND.
WE HAVE TENANTS IN THE BUILDING TODAY THAT LOVE THE TENANT, THE BUILDING, AND THEY'RE GONNA STAY, BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO HELP THEM FIND A LOCATION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE COMPLETE, THEY'LL MOVE BACK IN THE BUILDING.
SO I AM ASKING THAT YOU CONSIDER THIS AND GRANT US, YOU KNOW, THE SORT OF ZONING THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BUILD WHAT WE WANNA BUILD AND THEN LET'S GO DOWN AND DESIGN THE BUILDING, COME BACK FOR THE PERMITS TO BUILD.
I THINK IT'S NOT GONNA BE A NUISANCE.
I THINK THE CITY WILL WELCOME IT IF WE BUILD IT.
IT'LL BE THE TALLEST BUILDING BETWEEN DALLAS AND HOUSTON AND IT'LL BE GOOD TO KNOW THAT IT'S ON AMERICA TIME.
WHERE DO I LEAVE THIS? JUST LEAVE THAT UP THERE.
UH, VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS, PLANNER.
I AM THE DAUGHTER AND REPRESENTATIVE OF MR. RAPHAEL ADEBAYO, CHAIR OF THE WINNERS GROUP AND VISIONAIRE OF THE WINNERS TOWER AT MLK.
I'M HONORED TO STAND HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY TO PRESENT WHAT I AND MY COMMUNITY BELIEVE IS A FRAGMENT OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING'S DREAM.
THE WINNER'S TOWER ON MLK, THE WINNER'S TOWER PROJECT, AS IT WAS CONCEIVED AS A 25 STORY MIXED USE HUB OF COMMERCIAL AND SOCIAL ACTIVITIES.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE COMMITMENTS FOR A BANK, A MEDIA ORGANIZATION, A GROCERY STORE, A PHARMACY, A DOCTOR SUITE, AMONG OTHER COMMERCIAL INTERESTS.
IT WILL HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AND IT WILL HOUSE THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE WINNERS REGIONAL CENTER, RECENTLY LICENSED BY HOMELAND SECURITY FOR PROCESSING HIGH INCOME IMMIGRANT INVESTORS.
OUR CHURCH WILL BE LOCATED IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL AS COMMUNITY SUPPORT SERVICES, SUCH AS AN ACTIVITY CENTER.
AND WE PLAN TO RESERVE TWO OF THESE FLOORS FOR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES AS WELL AS, UM, FLOORS FOR PARKING.
UM, EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY A 25 STORY BUILDING, WE HAVE SPOKEN AND DELIBERATED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED TO COMPROMISE ON THIS AND, UH, CONSIDER BUILDING 15 STORIES.
UM, OUR ARGUMENT FOR THIS IS THAT ON 33 33 EDGEWOOD STREET, THERE'S A 13 APAR STORY APARTMENT BUILDING THAT SITS JUST 0.4 MILES FROM THE WINTER'S TOWER SITE, WHICH ESTABLISHES A PRECEDENT FOR VERTICAL MIXED USE DENSITY IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
THE TWO SITES SHARE PROXIMITY TO MAJOR ARTERIALS, THE MLK BOULEVARD I 45 AND MALCOLM X BOULEVARD.
AND THEY'RE BOTH LOCATED WITHIN THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT INFLUENCE AREA THAT SUPPORTS COMPACT HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
THE PROPOSED HEIGHT WILL NOT BE OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE EVOLVING SKYLINE OF THE AREA AND WILL CREATE A VISUAL GATEWAY TO THE MLK
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CORRIDOR.THE 15 STORY DESIGN INCORPORATES HEIGHTS THAT BACKS ABOVE THE FIFTH AND 10TH FLOORS TO MAINTAIN A PEDESTRIAN SCALE AT A STREET LEVEL AND TO REDUCE SHADOW IMPACTS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
A LOWER PODIUM BASED THREE TO FIVE STORIES WITH AN ACTIVE FLOOR, GROUND FLOOR, RETAIL AND COMMUNITY SPACE ENSURES COMPATIBILITY WITH NEARBY LOW RISE STRUCTURES AND PROVIDES A COMFORTABLE HUMAN SCALE EXPERIENCE ALONG WITH THE SIDEWALK.
THIS DESIGN APPROACH ALIGNS WITH FORWARD DALLAS AND P 95 OBJECTIVES FOR WALKABLE MIXED USE AND VERTICALLY INTEGRATED URBAN FORMS. UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT SUPPORTS MULTIPLE GOALS OF THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN 2001 AND THE FORT WORD DALLAS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
MY NAME IS, UH, GREGORY CHERRY.
UM, I'M A PROUD LIFELONG RESIDENT OF DALLAS AND I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF WINTERS TOWERS, A PROJECT TO BUILD A 15 STORY FACILITY RIGHT HERE IN OUR CITY.
THIS BUILDING WILL NOT ONLY STAND AS A SYMBOL OF PHYSICAL PROCESS, BUT ALSO A HUB INNOVATION, TECHNOLOGY AND OWNERSHIP FOR THE NOW AND NEXT GENERATION.
FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS, I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH MR. RAPHAEL, AND DURING THAT TIME WE'VE HAD COUNTLESS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW THIS PROJECT CAN BRING CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY ON PAR WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE GOOGLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WE'RE NOT JUST BUILDING A STRUCTURE, WE'RE BUILDING OPPORTUNITY.
I'M ALSO A FATHER OF THREE SONS, ALL OF WHOM ARE TECHNOLOGY CONSULTANTS AS A FAMILY AND AS A TEAM.
WE'VE DEVELOPED DETAILED PROPOSALS SENT TO EACH OF YOU OUTLINING HOW DALLAS COULD BECOME THE FIRST TRUE VIRTUAL CITY.
I'VE BROKEN IT DOWN TO THE SMALLEST COMMON DENOMINATOR, HOW IT GENERATES OVER A BILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY FOR THE DALLAS ECONOMY, HOW IT COULD CREATE THOUSANDS OF JOBS FOR STUDENTS, THE UNEMPLOYED, THE ELDERLY, AND EVEN RETURNING CITIZENS HOW IT COULD UNITE COMMUNITIES ACROSS POLITICAL, SOCIAL, AND ECONOMIC LINES.
THIS IS NOT SPECULATION, IT'S STRATEGY BACKED BY DATA, BY SYSTEMS, AND BY PASSION.
BUT EACH TIME I'VE ONLY BEEN ASKED, ARE YOU REGISTERED AS A VENDOR? MY ANSWER OF COURSE, BUT HOW CAN YOU CPSU SERVICE IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IT EXISTS? SO I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE SOMEONE WITH THE INNOVATION MINDSET OF ELON MUSK, BUT WITH DEEP LOCAL ROOTS AND A COMMITMENT TO THE UNDERSERVED THAT STANDS HERE BEFORE YOU.
NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, I FOUND THAT THOSE ELECTED TO LEAD OFTEN LACK THE TOOLS OR TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE TRANSFORMATIVE POWER OF TECHNOLOGY AND DATA OWNERSHIP.
THESE ARE NOT BUZZWORDS, THEY'RE ECONOMIC ENGINES.
I RESPECT THOSE WHO WIN OFFICES ARE OFTEN THE STRONGEST DEBATERS.
MY STRENGTH IS NOT DEBATING IT'S PROBLEM SOLVING THROUGH USING TECHNOLOGY.
I'M NOT HERE ASKING FOR MONEY, I'M ASKING FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND YOUR PARTNERSHIP.
THE YOUNGER GENERATION IS HUNGRY FOR THIS, FOR OPPORTUNITY, FOR OWNERSHIP, FOR INNOVATION, BUT GETTING THE ATTENTION OF LEADERSHIP SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE FEELS LIKE PULLING WISDOM TEETH.
HEY, HOW Y'ALL DOING TODAY? MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER WALKER AND I AM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MANAGER AND A RESEARCH IMPLEMENTATION MANAGER OF ABOUND AND PROSPERITY INCORPORATED, A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, UM, THAT'S AIMED TO CREATE A HEALTHIER BLACK COMMUNITY.
AND WE ARE ONE OF THE TENANTS CURRENTLY ON SITE TO WHERE, UM, WINTER TOWER WHERE WINTER TOWER AIMS TO GROW.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS IS, IS IT'S SO INTEGRAL TO THE GROWTH AND SUCCESS OF THE SOUTH DALLAS COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT CREATES OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.
UM, CURRENTLY WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SERVICE AROUND 2000 PEOPLE ANNUALLY THROUGH OUR TESTING, OUR TREATMENT, OUR HOUSING, OUR CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, UM, AND IN A COMMUNITY SPACE WHERE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE.
BUT OFTENTIMES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CAN BE UNTIL YOU GIVE THEM SOMETHING I OPERATE AND LIVE BY THE PRINCIPLE.
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IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.AND THIS PRESENTS, UH, UH, AN INCREASED OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE THAT COMMUNITY BY CREATING JOBS, BY BRINGING THINGS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE LOVE, THAT THEY NEED, THAT THEY DESIRE.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REVITALIZATION OF THE SOUTH DALLAS COMMUNITY, WE WANNA DO THINGS FROM GROUND UP AND START WITH WHAT'S WITHIN.
AND SO AS A TENANT, AND AS SOMEONE WHO'S SEEN THE SPIRIT OF WINNER'S ASSEMBLY BY BEING IN, CONNECTED TO PASTOR RAPHAEL AND S I'VE SEEN THEIR PASSION AND THE PURITY THEY HAVE TO CREATE THESE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE FOLKS OF THIS AREA.
AND IF YOU ALL PUSH THIS MOTION FORWARD TO ENHANCE THIS BUILDING, TO ENHANCE THIS REGION, YOU'RE NOT ONLY DOING SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU'RE JUST DOING SOMETHING FOR THE CITY.
AND THOSE FOLK WHO HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN UNDERSERVICED OVERLOOKED AND UNDERSERVED, UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW, TO BE INNOVATIVE, AND TO CREATE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT'S NEEDED.
AS YOU'VE HEARD, THERE'S PLANS TO BUILD A BANK.
THERE'S PLANS TO BUILD A CANCER RESEARCH FACILITY, LOW INCOME HOUSING.
WE DON'T PLAN TO GO ANYWHERE AT ALL.
WE PLAN TO UP AND UPSCALE OUR SERVICES TO PROVIDE, UH, MORE CULTURALLY COMPETENT CARE TO ENHANCE BEYOND HIV AND SCI TESTING TO OPEN UP A FEDERALLY QUALIFIED HEALTH CENTER SO WE CAN PROVIDE FREE AND LOW COST TREATMENT AND PRIMARY HEALTHCARE TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
SO I ASKED YOU, UM, IF YOU ARE REALLY LOOKING TO CREATE A CHANGE, YOU WILL MOVE FORWARD IN THIS MOTION TO ALLOW WINNERS TOWERS TO DEVELOP, TO EXPAND AND TO GROW COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME AND THE PEOPLE WILL COME.
MY NAME IS PASTOR KAREN AND ZEOR.
I AM, UH, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE THE OUTREACH PASTORS AT WINTER'S ASSEMBLY.
OUR RESPONSIBILITIES IS AS RESOURCE ADMINISTRATORS, ADVOCATES, SOCIAL WORKERS FOR THE UNHOUSED COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS COORDINATING FOR DONATIONS.
OUR LIFE IS ROOTED IN GOALS TO MOTOR, TO MOTIVATE AND EQUIP OUR COMMUNITY FOR A BETTER TOMORROW.
THE WINNER'S ASSEMBLY PURPOSE IS CLEAR.
WE HELP BUILD MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS, CULTIVATE UNITY, AND PROMOTE GROWTH.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT MANY OF YOU ARE FEARFUL AND UNCERTAIN CONCERNING THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS LIFE.
UM, ONCE IN A TIME LIFE EXPERIENCE OF GROWTH.
FOR 21 YEARS, WINNERS ASSEMBLY HAS BEEN THE PILLAR OF SOUTH DALLAS, COMMITTED TO SERVING WITH INTEGRITY AND COMPASSION.
WE HAVE PRIORITIZED CUL CULTURE SENSITIVELY KNOWING THAT NOT EVERYONE SHARES OUR BELIEF.
ONE OF OUR CORE BELIEFS IS TO TREAT OTHERS AS WE WISH TO BE, BE TREATED.
WE HAVE A HIGH RESPECT FOR DIVERSITY, BACKGROUNDS, FAITH AND EXPERIENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS, WITH ORGANIZATIONS OFFER DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES SUCH AS ABOUNDING PROSPERITY, WHICH EMPHASIZE, UH, VER DIVERSITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
OUR OUTREACH IS EXPANDING IN SOUTH DALLAS, IN SOUTH DALLAS TO SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND INTERNATIONAL.
EACH STEP WE TAKE IS AIMED TO CREATE A GREATER WELLNESS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL CLOSER OF SMALL BUSINESSES DUE TO GROWTH FROM WINNERS, ASSEMBLIES PROJECT, CONSIDER BOTH SIDE OF THE ISSUES TO BE POSITIVE.
BUSINESS CLOSURES AND GROWTH, OFTEN STEM FACTORS FROM A LACK OF INVESTMENT, LIMITED COMMUNITY FUNDING AND INSUFFICIENT OF DEMAND AND SERVICES REGARDING THESE WORRIES AND TAX INCREASE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTICE A HIGH TAX IS A POSITIVE ASSET.
TAX PROVIDES ESSENTIAL FUNDING FOR INITIAL GROWTH AND STRENGTH IN THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING PROGRAMS THAT ARE PROVED BY THE BUDGET, BY THE CITY'S BUDGET.
SO I JUST WANT TO GO IN CLOSING TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO, TO, UM, BRING, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TO CHANGE THE DIRECTORY OF GROWTH.
WE'RE TRYING TO ACCUMULATE A UNITY IN BROTHERHOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I'M GONNA HIT PAUSE FOR JUST ONE SECOND.
I WANNA RECOGNIZE SOME GUESTS THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY.
UM, AND I THINK, UH, DIRECTOR LOU WILL INTRODUCE THEM.
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GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.UM, I'M VERY EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE SOME FUTURE PLANNERS THAT JUST JOIN US FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
UH, THESE ARE UNDERGRADUATE AND GRADUATE STUDENT IN THE PLANNING PROGRAM IN UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, ARLINGTON.
THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR SECOND YEAR.
WE'RE HOSTING A CLASS FROM THE UNIVERSITY AND WE ARE HOPING TO DO ANNUALLY IN THE FUTURE.
THE FIRST TIME WE DIDN'T PICK A DATE WITH THE CPC.
THIS TIME I SAID WE GOT TO, UH, HAVE THE STUDENT COME HERE, UH, WHEN THE CPC UH, HAS A MEETING.
SO TODAY, UH, THEY ARE HERE, HAVE A TOUR, CITY HALL, THEY'RE GONNA STAY HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THEN LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT PLANNING, UM, ACTIVITY IN, IN THE CITY AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND I REALLY FEEL THIS VERY EXCITING.
THEY ARE NOT ONLY JUST FUTURE PLANNER, THEY COULD BE FUTURE LEADERS, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SO I WANT TO SAY WELCOME, UH, TO THE CITY OF DALLAS PLANNING, UH, COMMISSION.
AND GO MAVS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
UH, WE HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR TIME WITH US HERE TODAY.
YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR MEETINGS ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, OUR CONTACT INFORMATION IS, IS ON THE WEB.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVER DO HAVE QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT.
UM, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE ALL THESE FUTURE PLANNERS WITH US.
THEY MAY BE CITY STAFF OR COMMISSIONERS SITTING BEHIND THIS HORSESHOE TODAY.
SO WE HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR JOINING US.
ALL RIGHT, BACK TO CASE NUMBER NINE.
I'M NOT SURE HOW TO ADDRESS YOU OTHER THAN COUNSEL PERSONS, BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
START OFF BY SAYING THAT, AND I AM A RECENT MEMBER OF THE WINNER'S ASSEMBLY, EXCUSE ME.
AND I WANTED TO SPEAK TO, UM, EVERYONE PRIOR TO ME HAS ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE, UM, ASPECTS OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, JOB CREATION, UH, THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, ECONOMIC GROWTH, IMPROVED PUBLIC SPACES, UH, INCREASED HOUSING AND RETAIL.
BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE HEART OF WHO I HAVE MET, UM, TO BE THE LEADERS OF THE WINNER'S ASSEMBLY.
I HAVE SEEN INTEGRITY, I HAVE SEEN A DESIRE TO POUR OUT.
UM, I HAVE SEEN A DESIRE TO INCLUDE AND TO BRING IN THE COMMUNITY.
I HAVE SEEN AND, UH, WITNESSED, UH, PEOPLE, UH, THAT ARE ON STAFF GIVE THEIR LAST TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY IS TAKEN CARE OF.
AND I THINK THAT THAT SMALL SPACE OR THAT SMALL AMOUNT OF WHAT I'VE SEEN IS JUST THAT IT IS JUST A SMALL AMOUNT AND IT IS, UM, NOT EVEN THE CORNER OF WHAT IT IS THAT THIS, UM, UH, COMMUNITY THAT THIS, UH, GROUP OF LEADERSHIP WANTS TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY WANT TO REACH OUT, THEY WANT TO BRING JOBS, THEY WANT TO DO THESE THINGS.
AND IT'S NOT JUST A SPEAKING POINT YOU CAN GET ON AI AND YOU CAN JUST TYPE IN THESE WORDS AND GET THE, THE FLY WORDS, IF YOU WILL.
BUT I CAN SEE THE HEARTS OF THESE DEVELOPERS.
I CAN SEE THE HEARTS OF, UM, WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
AND SO I WANT TO SAY WHATEVER DECISION IS MADE, I NOTICED THAT THERE WASN'T A SUGGESTION WHEN I LOOKED, UH, AS FAR AS APPROVAL OR TO DISAPPROVE, BUT I WANT TO SAY, UM, YOU HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE HERE THAT REALLY WANT TO SEE, UM, INCREASE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN, AGAIN, WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, BUT WHEN YOU CAN LOOK AT THE HEARTS OF PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO, UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS NOTEWORTHY.
AND SO THAT WAS THE, UM, THE ASPECT THAT I WANTED TO COME FROM AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
MY NAME IS ZORA MCPHERSON AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT PASTOR RAPHAEL DIABO ON HIS QUEST TO REESTABLISH DIVERSIFICATION TO THE SOUTH DALLAS COMMUNITY.
HERE'S WHY I FEEL THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT.
SHORTLY AFTER RETIRING FROM THE MILITARY, I GAINED EMPLOYMENT AT THE DALLAS VA MEDICAL CENTER.
AND THIS IS WHERE I BEGAN TO SEE A LARGE NUMBER OF HOMELESS IN PARTICULAR VETERANS.
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I FELT A LITTLE, I FEEL A LITTLE OF NO SYMPATHY FOR THEM.AND ON ONE OCCASION IN PARTICULAR, I REMEMBER THINKING TO MYSELF, HOMELESS, HOW DID IT GET TO THAT POINT? FAST FORWARD TO 2017, I LOST MY HOME AND HAD BECOME HOMELESS MYSELF.
I FELT THE HELPLESSNESS, OUR, THE LONELINESS AND THE DEVASTATION AND THE EFFECTS OF BEING, UH, IN THAT STATE, THE DEVASTATION OF THE EFFECTS OF BEING IN THAT STATE, THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS.
EVENTUALLY I BECAME A MEMBER OF THE WINDOWS ASSEMBLY.
I SAW HOW PASTOR RAPHAEL ABO ALLOWED THE HOMELESS TO STAY IN HIS CHURCH DURING THE HOLIDAYS AND PROVIDE A FULL HOLIDAY MEAL FOR THEM.
I SAW PASTOR RAPHAEL, UH, PROVIDE, UH, SHELTER IN ORDER TO KEEP THEM FROM FEELING THE LONELINESS THAT BEING ALONE ON HOLIDAYS COULD BRING.
ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT WAS WHEN HE SAID TO THE CONGREGATION, IF PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING, DO NOT WAKE THEM UP FOR, THEY'RE PROBABLY TIRED.
LEMME SAY IF PASTOR RAPHAEL, IF PASTOR RAPHAEL'S PROPOSAL IS GRANTED, ULTIMATELY THIS WOULD, THIS PROJECT WOULD BRING, UH, REVIVAL INTO THE COMMUNITY, REVENUE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, PROVIDE JOBS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL IN THEIR ATTEMPT TO FIND EMPLOYMENT.
IT ALSO WOULD PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO, UH, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HOMELESS OR DISPLACED IN THE PAST.
AND SPEAKERS, IF YOU COULD JUST BE SURE TO PROVIDE YOUR, YOUR ADDRESS WHEN YOU SPEAK.
CAN YOU PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS ON THE RECORD, MA'AM? YES, SIR.
MY ADDRESS IS 2 7 0 8 HICKMAN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 5.
YOU CAN CALL ME BABA IF YOU NEED TO ADDRESS ME BY SPEAK SPECIFICALLY.
I LIVE AT 9 3 5 0 SKILLMAN STREET IN DALLAS, 7 5 2 4 3.
UM, I'M A DENTIST AND, UM, AND I'M, I'M AN EVANGELIST IN THE AREA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO MINGLE LIKE BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL AND THE VOLUNTEER SERVICES IN THE SOUTH DALLAS REGION.
SO WHEN I SAW THIS OPPORTUNITY, SIR, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE TURNED YOUR MICROPHONE OFF.
CAN YOU HIT THE BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM AGAIN? OH, SORRY.
DO I START AGAIN OR YOU'RE GOOD.
SO WHEN I, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY, I DECIDED TO FOLLOW UP AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
FROM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS AND FROM WHAT I'VE READ, WHAT I'VE SEEN ONLINE, I BEGIN TO SEE, NOT THAT THE COMMUNITY IS AGAINST IT PER SE, WHICH IS A WELCOME DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE FACT, THE ISSUE I REALLY SEE THERE IS A, I MEAN, CONFLICT OF HEIGHTS ABOUT THE HEIGHT.
AND, UM, I, I BEGAN TO WONDER IF MARTIN LUTHER KING, I, I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF VISITING HIS TOMB AND HIS HOUSE, AND I LOOK AT HIS SMALL HOUSE HE GREW UP IN, UP ONTO WHERE HE'S STAYING IN HIS TOMB RIGHT NOW.
HOW WILL HE PERCEIVE THIS SITUATION? I THINK IT'S ON YOUR SHOULDERS THIS AFTERNOON TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT VISION OF THAT GREAT MAN TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE ISSUE HERE IS ABOUT CHANGE.
IT'S ABOUT CHANGE FOR PROGRESS.
AND SO THE THING IS, ARE THEY, ARE WE, ARE THEY LIKELY TO BE EMPOWERING THE POCKETS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE PLACE TO EMBRACE THE CHANGE? OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE SUBSUMED BY SOME POWERFUL FORCES, MONEY BAGS FROM OUTSIDE? I THINK THAT'S A CRUCIAL POINT RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE EVEN, EVEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HEIGHT, ARE WE CHALLENGING THE AVIATION SYSTEM? IS THERE ANY AVIATION CONCERN OR IS THERE ANY SECURITY DEFENSE ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THIS BUILDING WILL BLOCK OFF OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I'M WONDERING WHY WE SHOULD FIGHT THE HEIGHT IF
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THE OWNERS SAY IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE IT PROFITABLE.DO WE WANT THEM TO GO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MONEY OR WE WANT IT BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A GOOD TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO ALL BENEFIT ECONOMICALLY FROM THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED, IT'S FOR THE, IT'S FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE PEOPLE THERE CURRENTLY.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONTRASTS BETWEEN THE HOSPITALS AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE PLACES WHERE WE GO TO COLLECT FOOD, YOU KNOW, I THINK CHANGE IS WELCOME.
I THINK THAT'S THE DECISION ON YOUR HANDS.
MY, I AM ABI I'M THE VISIONER OF THIS PROJECT.
UH, I WANT TO THANK THE, THE PLANT COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU BRING YOUR STATE YOUR ADDRESS, SIR? YES.
I LIVE AT 7 2 1 1 LAGUNA GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS BEING WHAT I BELIEVE THE NEXT LEVEL THAT GOD WANT US TO GO IN, MAKING SURE THAT, UH, WE TAKE SOUTH DALLAS TO WHAT DIVISION THAT GOD GIVE TO US.
UH, FOR 21 YEARS NOW WE'VE HAD, WE'VE CHANGED THE AREA TO WHEREBY WE CAN, WE HAVE GOOD EMPLOYMENT IN THE BUILDING AND VERY COMFORTABLE LIKE ABANDONED PROSPERITY, UH, THE LAST METROCARE AND, UH, SOME OTHER
SO THE COMMUNITY IS GOOD TO US.
THEY SUPPORTED US AND HAVE DONE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS IN OUR AREA.
NOW, BEFORE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A 25 STORY BUILDING, AFTER MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY, SAY, LET'S GO HALFWAY, 15 STORY BUILDING.
NOW IN THAT BUILDING NOW WE NOW INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN THE, OUR PLANT 15 STORY BUILDING TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
SO THE GROCERY STORE WILL BE, WILL BE THERE.
THEN WE HAVE OUR CURRENT TENANT THAT ARE ABANDONING PROSPERITY, THAT ARE REALLY CREATING A LOT OF JOBS AND REACHING OUT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, SO THEY'LL BE THERE AND, UH, DALLAS METRO CARE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US NOW, THEY'LL BE THERE AND NOW WE ARE GONNA MAKE SURE WE CREATE, UH, APARTMENTS OR CONDOMINIUMS THAT WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO LIVE AND STAY IN SOUTH DALLAS.
AND THE PRICING WILL NOT BE, WILL BE AT LEAST COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE HAVE.
THE BUILDING WE HAVE NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME SET OF BUILDINGS IN SOUTH DALLAS AREA.
SO OUR BUILDING WILL NOT BE, UH, WILL NOT BE, UH, WILL BE A BUILDING THAT ANYONE THAT WORKING INSTEAD OF DALLAS THEY WANT TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN STAY AND HAVE THEIR PLACE TO GO TO WORK OR WORK AND, AND PROVIDE A VERY DECENT HOUSING FOR PEOPLE.
THEN THE, UH, THE HOTEL ASPECT OF IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH THEM.
DO THEY, WHAT, WHAT DO THEY DO? WE WANT HOTELS IN THAT PLACE BECAUSE 25 STORY BUILDING WILL GIVE US ONE 50 ROOM HOTEL.
NOW WE MAY HAVE ABOUT, UH, HUNDRED ROOM MOTELS, BUT FROM OUR RESEARCH AND THAT'S YOUR TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN SUPPORT? GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS JEANETTE FELLOWS AND I ALSO AM A 5 0 1 C NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
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DALLAS.I'LL BE 75 YEARS OLD THIS MONTH.
SO I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND I'VE SEEN, CAN YOU BE SURE TO STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? MY ADDRESS IS 34 6 PINE STREET.
AND I'VE SEEN SO MUCH SINCE I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE, SO I SPEAK ON WHAT I'VE SEEN AND WITNESSED AND THE THING IS, THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS BEEN IMPROVING.
IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPING, BUT IT'S, IT'S PEOPLE LIKE, LIKE, LIKE THE PASTOR IN HIS CONGREGATION AND THE ONE THAT IS WORKING IN THE CITY AND NOT SITTING ASIDE, THERE ARE ACTUALLY HANDS ON DOING WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS NEED TO GET DONE.
THAT YOU SEE THE BOARD IN HOMES AND BUSINESSES THAT'S BEEN BOARDED UP FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
SO I COME TO SAY, LET'S WORK TOGETHER.
LET'S SEE THE VISION OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
NOT, NOT JUST THE, THE THE, THE THE THE WANT TO, I I NEED TO, I SHOULD DO THIS.
THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE WHEN THERE'S HELPING HANDS.
THERE'S HELPING HANDS, THERE'S VISIONARIES RIGHT HERE THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA.
I MEAN, IT SHOULD BE EXPANDED.
IT SHOULD BE, UH, A BUSINESS WISE.
IT, IT SHOULD BE ALL OF THAT BY LOOK AT THE YEAR WE ARE IN, LOOK AT THE TIME SET WE ARE IN NOW.
SO LOOK AT THE, AT THE ONES THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY PRODUCING AND TRYING TO, TO BRING IMPROVEMENT, DIVERSITY TO EVERYTHING THAT IS NEEDED.
BUSINESSES, HOUSING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NEEDED NOW.
SO WHY, WHY NOT OPEN UP? WHY NOT OPEN UP THIS, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE ONES THAT HAS BEEN PLANNING AND THE ONES THAT'S BEEN THERE DOING IT AND THEY NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
THERE'S OTHER BUSINESS IN SOUTH DALLAS THAT NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED, BUT NOBODY COMES AND SPEAK UP AND NOBODY STANDS FOR WHAT, WHAT IS WHAT IS NEEDED TO BE DONE? WE SAT BEHIND DEES, WE SAT BEHIND, UH, TILES AND EVERYTHING, BUT WHO'S GET OUT THERE AND DO THE FOOTWORK, WHO DO THE HAND WORK? WHO BRINGS IT ALL IN? SO LET'S SEE THE VISION.
DON'T TURN, TURN THE ONES THAT'S, UH, ARE COMING IN.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? HOMELESS PEOPLES, THEY, THEY, THEY FEED THEM EVERY DAY.
DO Y'ALL KNOW THAT? THEY FEED THEM EVERY DAY, EVERY NIGHT THEY ARE THERE FEEDING THEM, THEY'RE BRINGING THEM INTO THE HOUSE, THEY LETTING THEM SLEEP ON THE FLOORS OF THE CHURCH.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GIVING THEM SORROWS.
THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
LET US NOT DENY THAT COMMUNITY NEEDS COMMUNITY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN SUPPORT NUMBER 10 Z 25 0 0 0 69.
I CAME TO SPEAK AS A LIVING WITNESS OF WHAT APOSTLE RAP ADEO IS DOING IN
WHEN I CAME TO UNITED STATES IN 1988, I WAS LIVING WITH MY BROTHER IN HOUSTON.
A SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS LATER, I GOT INTO THE WRONG CROWD.
I STARTED SMOKING CRACK COCAINE.
MY BROTHER COULDN'T DEAL WITH ME.
I ENDED UP IN THE STREET OF HOUSTON ON FIVE WARD IN HOUSTON.
I ENDED UP IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA, FROM ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
I ENDED UP IN ACHING SOUTH CAROLINA FROM SOUTH CAROLINA.
I ENDED UP IN, UH, TAMPA, FLORIDA, ALL THE CITIES I JUST MENTIONED.
I WAS SMOKING CRACK COCAINE FROM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I ENDED UP LIVING IN, UH, FORT WORTH.
I WAS STAYING AT 2,400 CYROS STREET, PRESBYTERIAN NIGHT SHELTER.
I SLEPT SOMETIME SALVATION ARMY.
I SLEPT SOMETIME IN UNION GOSPEL MISSION.
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TO DALLAS, I WAS, I STAYED IN THE BRIDGE.I PREFER SLEEPING IN THE STREET FROM THE BRIDGE.
I WENT TO DALLAS LIFE FOUNDATION AT THAT TIME WHEN I CAME, THEY WERE, THEY WERE CHARGING ME $3 A NIGHT.
THEY SAID, IF YOU CAN, THEY GAVE ME THREE OPTIONS.
YOU EITHER STAY HERE FOR $3 A NIGHT OR YOU JOIN THE PROGRAM THAT WILL PAY FOR YOU STAYING HERE OR YOU WALK AND STAY AND PAY FOR YOUR ACCOMMODATION.
I PREFER TO WALK BECAUSE THAT GAVE ME THE TIME TO GO OUT THERE, DO WHAT I NEEDED TO DO AND COME BACK BECAUSE I WAS ON CRACK COCAINE.
FROM THERE, I FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
THEY SAY CORNER STONE FEED PEOPLE, I ALL THAT.
SO I WAS GOING TO CORNERSTONE TO GET SOME FOOD.
THEY GAVE ME A SACK OF A SACK LUNCH AND IT WAS FROM THERE.
SOMEBODY TOLD ME ONE EVENING ON TUESDAY, HE SAID, DO YOU KNOW THERE'S AN AFRICAN CHURCH OVER HERE? THEY SERVE CHICKEN ON TUESDAY.
THAT'S HOW I FIND OUT ABOUT APOSTLE RAPHAEL AT THE BIO.
HE, HE EVENTUALLY, HE SAT ME THERE.
HE SAID, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? I SAID, I'M FROM NIGERIA.
WHERE'S GOING ON? I SAID, I'M ON CR I LIVE ON THE STREET.
HE SAID, OKAY, JUST KEEP COMING.
SO EVENTUALLY I IT'S YOUR TIME.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UH, HE HAS HELPED ME AND THROUGH HIS MINISTRY TODAY.
UH, THE CHAIRMAN AND UH, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS.
UH, WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN UNTO US TO, UH, BE HERE TO PRESENT, UH, OUR CASE BEFORE YOU, JUST TO WRAP UP ON WHAT THE, SIR, CAN YOU START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? YES, SIR.
UH, MY NAME IS GON, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I LIVE IN, UH, 2 4 1 ELSTONE DRIVE IN MIDLOTHIAN, AND I ALSO HAVE A REAL ESTATE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
DO YOU HEAR ME? MICROPHONE? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES.
UH, I LIVE IN 2 4 1 HILLSTONE DRIVE, MID LITHIUM, TEXAS.
AND I ALSO HAVE A, UH, UH, UH, REAL ESTATE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IN DALLAS.
UH, I WANT, I'M HERE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE FOR LISTENING TO US.
I JUST WANT TO WRAP UP ON WHAT THAT, UH, YOUNG GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING BEFORE HIS TIME RAN OUT.
HE WAS A TESTIMONY OF WHAT PASTOR RAEL ADEBAYO HAS BEEN DOING IN SOUTH DALLAS.
NOW, HE'S A MINISTRY LEADER, HE'S A PASTOR, AND THAT WAS A MAN THAT WAS ON THE CRACK CRACKING, WAS ON STREET FOR MANY YEARS.
AND THAT IS OUT OF THE GENEROSITY OF WHAT THIS MINISTRY HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO.
AND I HOPE YOU ALWAYS SEE EMPOWERING THIS MINISTRY TO DO MORE AND TO BUILD A UP TO 50 STORY UNIT, UH, BUILDING.
IT WILL BE ABLE TO DO MORE AND IT WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE MORE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND ALSO BEING A PERSON WHO HAS ALSO, YOU KNOW, INVEST IN DOLLARS.
I'VE SEEN PEOPLE, THE DEMAND IS JOB.
PEOPLE WANT TO GET SOMETHING TO DO.
IF YOU HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE HIM BUILD THIS TYPE OF, UH, BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, TO EMPLOY MORE PEOPLE, TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE, TO CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITY AND PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN DALLAS COMMUNITY.
AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS, UH, REQUEST.
HAVE, UH, HAVING BEEN TO, UH, WE HAVE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE ON OUR SIDE AND WE HAVE REACHED SOME COMPROMISE BASED ON WHAT THEIR UH, SUGGESTION HAS BEEN.
AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THIS AND GRANT US A FAVORABLE OUTCOME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON? CASE NUMBER NINE IN SUPPORT.
THE, ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASE NUMBER NINE IN OPPOSITION.
AND JUST BE SURE TO START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
I'VE BEEN A PART OF THIS CHURCH FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS CHURCH GOT TO GET THIS SELF IN ORDER.
YOU GOTTA GET YOURSELF IN ORDER FOR YOU TRY TO GO UP.
SIR, SIR, UH, YOU NEED TO DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS, OKAY.
THE CITY PLAN COMMISSIONER, GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HEAR.
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AND SIR, AND YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT ON.CAN YOU HIT THE BUTTON TO TURN IT ON? OKAY.
I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF WINTERS ASSEMBLY FOR A LONG, LONG, LONG TIME.
AND YOU HAVE THINGS THAT THE CHURCH THAT ARE NOT FIXED THAT ARE, THAT CAN BE FIXED AND HOW YOU GONNA GO UP AND YOU CAN'T FIX THE THINGS THAT ARE AT HOME.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE INSIDE THIS CHURCH THAT ARE NOT FIXED.
LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, LIKE PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL THERE THAT YOU CLAIM THAT YOU'RE GONNA GIVE JOBS TO AND, AND, AND, AND, AND YOU'RE BRINGING IN THIS MILLION DOLLAR COMPLEX WHO, WHO ARE GOING TO AFFORD THESE APARTMENTS? YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS CHURCH IS BUILDING, BUT THE CHURCH IS GONNA BE ON THE SIXTH FLOOR.
YOU, YOU'RE BRINGING IN UNEMPLOY, I MEAN YOU'RE BRINGING EMPLOYMENT, BUT TO WHO? AND I PROPOSE THAT PEOPLE OF SOUTH DALLAS BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.
THAT WAY THAT LOW INCOME CAN, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN BE UNEMPLOYED.
THAT'S NOT IN, THAT'S NOT NOT IMPLEMENTED.
I CANNOT STAND, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND ALLOW MYSELF WHEN GOD HAS APPLIED ME TO, TO IMPLEMENT THESE THINGS WITH THIS CHURCH.
UNTIL YOU GET HOME, TILL YOU GET HOME CLEARED FIRST WITH INSIDE THE CHURCH, THEN YOU CAN GO UP.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT, THAT THIS DOES NOT BE, NOT THAT THIS DOES NOT BE A GOOD, UH, THING FOR SOUTH DALLAS, BUT MAKE SURE YOU, YOU, YOU TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF IN, IN HOME FIRST BEFORE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO OUT AND IMPLEMENT SAND JOBS AND DOING THIS AND THERE'S NO JOBS BEING CREATED.
THERE'S THINGS THAT, THAT I'VE, I'VE BEEN ATTACHED TO THAT I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN PAID FOR.
PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS CHURCH ARE NOT EVEN BEEN PAID.
HOW YOU GONNA BE TIGHT WHEN YOU GO 225 STORIES UP? THIS IS AT LEAST OF THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH THE CHURCH AND THE TEETH.
I'M STILL GONNA BE AGAINST IT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER NINE? ALRIGHT, UNDER OUR RULES, THE APPLICANT IS GIVEN A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU CHAIR PERSON, VICE CHAIR.
I DO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, SO THE PLAN WITH REGARD TO ERECTING THIS FACILITY IS TO NOT ONLY JUST SAY THAT WE'RE GENERATING JOBS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE, PARDON YOU, YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
I HAD ALREADY JUST SOME BACKGROUND NOISE, BUT YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
UM, AND I DO WANNA SAY THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR THE, I BELIEVE THERE ARE FIVE ZIP CODES.
UH, THE NEAREST FIVE ZIP CODES THAT ARE IN THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA.
UH, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE 40% OF THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, COSTS OR THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION IN THE BUILDING, UM, FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THIS AREA TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE, UM, THAT, UH, THAT BUSINESS IN ORDER TO HELP US WITH THE BUILDING.
SO WE WANT TO HAVE AT LEAST 40% TO GO, UM, FOR THAT TO BE RIGHT HERE, UH, IN THE, UH, TO REMAIN IN THE, UH, SOUTH DALLAS AREA.
ALSO, ANOTHER THING THAT WE WOULD, UH, LIKE TO DO IS, UH, WE MENTIONED CREATING JOBS, BUT I WAS, UH, HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE PASTOR AND SO FAR WE CAN SEE APPROXIMATELY, UH, 200 JOBS AT LEAST THAT WOULD, UH, BE GENERATED JUST FROM THE BUILDING OF THIS, THIS EDIFICE.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE DO HAVE PLANS TO, IT IS THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING PROJECT, IT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IT IS TO, UH, INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY AND WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE LEFT OUT.
AND SO, UM, THAT IS THE SENTIMENT AND THE UH, AND THE GOAL.
UM, OBVIOUSLY IF YOU, UM, HAVE SOMETHING UH, THAT YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR ME, I CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT.
IF NOT, I CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE MY SEAT.
UM, BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
ON CASE NUMBER NINE, WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF CASE 7 2 2 5 DASH ZERO.
MY BRAIN IS, I THINK IT'S Z 25 0 0 0 73.
RIGHT NUMBER NINE IN THE MATTER OF Z FOUR FIVE DASH TWO ZERO.
UM, ALSO Z, ALSO KNOWN AS Z DASH 25 0 0 7 3 8.
I MOVE TO CODE OF PUBLIC HEARING AND TO, UM, NOT FOLLOW A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR CONSIDERATION AND TO DENY THIS CASE WITH PREJUDICE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, COMM, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER,
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SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO NOT FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT TO DENY THE APPLICATION AND IT'S A STRAIGHT DENIAL.COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS? I DO.
OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD, WE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY.
ORIGINALLY I WAS, UM, ADVISED BY THE, UM, UM, BY THE REPRESENTATIVE, UM, THE CONSULTANT.
WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? AND SOUTH DALLAS IS GROWING AS WE ALL KNOW.
WE JUST PASSED THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA PLAN AND THOSE COMMUNITY LEADERS WORKED ON THAT DILIGENTLY FOR FIVE YEARS.
AND WE WORKED ON IT TO ENSURE THAT EVERY CORRIDOR IN SOUTH DALLAS WOULD BE COVERED AND WE, THAT THOSE COMMUNITY LEADERS AND THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD HAVE INPUT ON WHAT THE VISION GOING FORWARD FOR SOUTH DALLAS.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING FINALLY HELD IN JULY TWO.
THERE WERE HELD WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF EACH OTHER.
AND AT THAT COMMUNITY MEETING, THERE WAS NO CONSENSUS BY THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY SUPPORTED THIS, UH, PARTICULAR PROJECT.
THEY ACTUALLY, UM, REQUESTED THAT CAME BACK WITH SOMETHING LESS DENSE, IMPOSSIBLE CONSIDERATION, WHICH WOULD BE FIVE STORIES I SPOKE FOR.
THE FIRST TIME THAT I SPOKE WITH THE PASTOR WAS ON COUPLE DAYS AGO.
THERE WAS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT OUT TO ME IN SEPTEMBER, BUT THE MEETING WAS IN JULY AT CPC AND AT CPC WE PUT THIS OFF QUITE A WHILE SO THAT YOU ALL CAN GO BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, REGROUP AND COME BACK.
THERE HAS YET TO BE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING.
THERE HAS BEEN CALLS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THOSE COMMUNITY LEADERS CAME BACK AND SAID, YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEMBER MEETING THAT THEY WOULD NOT SPEAK TO YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY AS WE KNOW YOU.
THERE IS SERVICES THAT YOU OFFER THAT ARE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.
THIS PROJECT SERVES OTHER COMMUNITIES AS IT IS EVIDENT IN THIS MEETING THAT THERE IS NOT ONE COMMUNITY LEADER IN SOUTH DALLAS PROPER HERE.
THERE THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THE MEETING, NEITHER.
WERE THEY AWARE THAT YOU ALL WERE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO PROCESS? YES, WE DO HAVE A 13 STORY BUILDING ON EDGEWOOD THAT IS OWNED BY DHA, THAT IS 100% FOR SENIOR AND HANDICAPPED LIVING.
AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REBUILDING THAT AND MOVING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY GO TO, UM, SAY THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT IT BECAUSE OF THAT BUILDING ON EDGEWOOD, IT IS 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, LOT TECH PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR OVER 30, 40 PLUS YEARS.
BUT THIS PROJECT, EVEN THE COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO ARE AROUND YOU ALL THAT ARE BUILDING CORNERSTONE ST.
PHILLIPS, THERE IS NOT A CONSENSUS WITH THEM.
AND THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'RE EVEN ASKED TO WORK WITH WAS IN THE LAST YEAR WHEN THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN MOVED FORWARD.
UM, EVERY TIME I GET A PHONE CALL, I GET A DIFFERENT VERSION OF WHAT'S WHO, WHO IS LEADING AND WHO IS UH, IN CHARGE.
AND I'VE HAD RECOMMENDATIONS AND FROM THE COMMUNITY TO RECOMMENDATIONS IS THAT THEY DO NOT TRUST THE LEADERSHIP.
UM, YES, WE HAVE, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE SERVICES IN THIS BUILDING PRIOR TO EVER MOVING INTO THIS BUILDING OR ALREADY PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES.
AND IF THEY LEAVE THAT BUILDING, THEY STILL WILL PROVIDE THEY, ESPECIALLY ASPIRING PROSPERITY WHO HAS DONE GREAT WORK, UM, IN EVERY BUILDING THAT THEY'VE MOVED IN.
AND SO THE BUILDING DOES NOT CONSTITUTE WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA DO GREAT SERVICES BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN AT THREE LOCATIONS ON MLK AND WHEREVER THEY MOVE, THEY PROVIDE GREATNESS AND THE COMMUNITY TRUSTS THEM.
BUT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THE COMMUNITY CANNOT TRUST IF THEY'RE NOT BEING TOLD THE SAME THING EVERY TIME THEY SPEAK TO WHOEVER CONTACTS THEM.
AND SO I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS NOT FOR SOUTH DALLAS.
THIS IS FOR OUTSIDE OF PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF SOUTH DALLAS.
MR. HERBERT, DID YOU HAVE A I DID, YEAH.
UM, WHERE DO I START? UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, WE ARE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE AN UPWARD MOBILITY, UM, BUILDING IN THE HEART OF SOUTH DALLAS, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS LONG BEEN OVERLOOKED, UM, BUT YET NEVER BROKEN.
UH, THIS REQUEST COMES FROM A CHURCH THAT HAS BEEN IN THE AREA FOR LIKE THEY SAID, 21 YEARS, I BELIEVE.
UM, BUT TENURE DOES NOT EQUAL TRUST.
AND TRUST IS WHAT'S MISSING HERE.
AS A COMMISSIONER AND A REPRESENTATIVE OF MOST OF THIS COMMUNITY WHO UNDERSTANDS THE WEIGHT AND LEGACY OF THE POWER OF THE PLACE, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL.
NOT BECAUSE I'M NOT AGAINST GROWTH, BUT BECAUSE I BELIEVE GROWTH MUST BE ROOTED IN RESPECT, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND COMMUNITY.
THE STRUCTURE IS OUT OF SCALE AND OUT OF STEP WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S HISTORIC CHARACTER.
IT THREATENS TO OVERSHADOW NOT JUST PHYSICALLY, BUT SYMBOLICALLY, THE HOMES, FAMILIES, AND CULTURE THAT DEFINE SOUTH DALLAS.
THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT HEIGHT, IT'S ABOUT HARMONY.
IT'S ABOUT WHETHER THIS PROJECT REFLECTS THE VALUES AND VISIONS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE.
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LET'S BE CLEAR, THIS PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE BROAD COMMUNITY BACKING.WE HEARD FROM REP, REP REPRESENTATIVES THAT SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LAKE KIRKMEYER HILL, A GENERATIONAL PILLAR.
WHO OF THIS COMMUNITY BY HONORING HIS LEGACY MEANS MORE THAN INVOKING HIS NAME.
IT MEANS CONTINUING HIS WORK, BUILDING TRUST, LISTENING TO RESIDENTS AND FIGHTING FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT UPLIFTS EVERYONE AS HE DID.
WHAT WE'VE SEEN INSTEAD IS DIVISION NOT UNITY.
A LACK OF CARE FOR THE HARDWORKING PEOPLE OF SOUTH DALLAS WHO SHOW UP EVERY DAY TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY BETTER.
WE'VE HEARD THE USUAL PROMISES, JOBS, HOUSING OPPORTUNITY, BUT WE'VE HEARD THEM BEFORE AND TOO OFTEN THEY NEVER COME.
SO I ASK WHAT JOBS WILL EXIST ONCE THE BUILDINGS IS COMPLETE? WHAT CONTRACTS HAVE EVER GONE TO LOCAL BUSINESSES FROM YOUR OFFICES? WHAT HOMES HAVE YOU BUILT BEFORE ASKING FOR THIS MASSIVE PROJECT? HOW HAVE YOU SUPPORTED THE NONPROFITS ALREADY DOING THE WORK ON THE GROUND? YOU CAN'T DROP A GOLDEN HORSE IN THE MIDDLE OF POVERTY AND EXPECT TRANSFORMATION.
COMMUNITY PROGRAMS DO PEOPLE DO.
AS WE CONTINUE FIGHTING CRIME, FIGHTING, HOMELESSNESS, FIGHTING THE THINGS THAT CHALLENGE OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR RESIDENTS, WE, WE HOPE THAT COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER TO SERVE THEM BEFORE WE ASK THEM TO GIVE THEIR LAND THEIR OPPORTUNITY AND THEIR PROPERTY VALUES AWAY.
CHANGE IN A FORGOTTEN AREA MUST BE HANDLED WITH CARE.
SOUTH DALLAS DESERVES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THOUGHTFUL, INCLUSIVE, AND ROOTED IN REAL PARTNERSHIP, NOT JUST AMBITION.
I STAND WITH THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE FIGHTING FOR A HIGHER STANDARD, FOR DIGNITY AND FOR A FUTURE THAT REFLECTS THEIR VALUES.
AND FOR THIS REASON, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHEELER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOT FOLLOW STATUTE RECOMMENDATION, BUT FOR A STRAIGHT DENIAL.
[SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent Items]
LET'S GO ON TO OUR SUBDIVISION DOCKET.UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF NINE ITEMS. ITEM 11, ITEM 12, ITEM 13, ITEM 14, ITEM 15, ITEM 16, ITEM 17, ITEM 18 AND ITEM 19.
ALL THE CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND ARREST AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
UM, WE, I SEE WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ONLINE.
GEORGE, IS EITHER OF THEM ONLINE? IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON, UM, ANY OF OUR SUBDIVISION CONSENT ITEMS? UM, ONE THROUGH 19.
IF NOT, THEY WILL BE TAKEN UP, UM, AND APPROVED OF IN A SINGLE MOTION 11 THROUGH 19.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 11 THROUGH 19.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
[20. 25-2882A An application to replat a 3.015-acre tract of land containing all of Lot 1 in City Block A/5664 and a tract of land in City Block 5579 to create one lot on property located on Northwest Highway/State Highway Loop No. 12, west of Devonshire Drive. Applicant/Owner: The Compass School of Texas Surveyor: Global Land Surveying, Inc. Application Filed: September 12, 2025 Zoning: PD 1120 Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to compliance with the conditions listed in the docket. Planner: Sharmila Shrestha Council District: 13 PLAT-25-000096 (S245-238)]
I WILL TURN OVER THE CHAIR TO COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.UM, UH, CHAIR RUBEN HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ITEM.
AND SO, UM, IF I COULD ASK, UM, MS. ESTA TO READ ITEM NUMBER 20 INTO THE RECORD PLEASE.
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REPLAT A 3.015 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT ONE IN CITY BLOCK A OVER 56 64 AND A TRACK OF LAND IN CITY BLOCK 55 79 TO CREATE ONE LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON NORTHWEST HIGHWAY STATE HIGHWAY LOOP NUMBER 12 WEST OF DRIVE
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13.NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2025.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
AND I WILL NOTE THAT, UH, CHAIR RUBEN HAS LEFT THE CHAMBER DURING THIS, UH, DURING THIS DELIBERATION.
UM, DO I HAVE A, UH, MOTION ON, UH, ITEM NUMBER 20? YOU DO MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER 20, PLAT 25 DASH 0 0 0 9 6 SLASH S 2 45 2 38.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS ITEM SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND, UH, DID I SEE A SECOND? UM, OKAY, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
UM, MS. MORRISON HAS ASKED ME JUST TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THERE'S NO ONE INTO THE JA IN THE CHAMBER THIS AFTERNOON TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST, UH, THIS CASE NUMBER.
SO, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND EVEN ANY, UH, DISCUSSION.
[Certificate of Appropriateness for Signs - Consent Items]
WE'RE MOVED TO OUR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SIGNS CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH CONSISTS OF ITEM 21 THROUGH 24.COULD WE TAKE 24 OFF AS WELL? YES.
ITEM NUMBER 21 IS SIGN DASH 25 DASH 0 0 5 7 5.
AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY AARON PRATT OF OXCART MANUFACTURING FOR A 120.8 SQUARE FOOT LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTER SIGN AT 2000 MCKINNEY AVENUE ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
SSD RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVAL.
ITEM NUMBER 22 SIGN DASH 25 DASH 0 0 6 4 0 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY BOBBY ESS OF ES SIGN SERVICES FOR A 126.4 SQUARE FOOT LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTER SIGN AT 4 36 WEST JEFFERSON AVENUE ON THE NORTH ELEVATION.
ITEM NUMBER 23 SIGN DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 6 4 1.
AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY BOBBY ES OF ES SIGN SERVICES FOR 126.4 SQUARE FOOT LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTER SIGN AT 4 36 WEST JEFFERSON AVENUE, WEST ELEVATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
SSD RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE APPROVAL.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS, SO WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR A MOTION ON THE, UH, ITEMS 21 THROUGH 23 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
FURTHER CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SIGNS.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THEM, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH FOR YOUR SECOND.
[24. 25-2886A An application for a Certificate of Appropriateness by Bobby Esh of Esh Sign Services, for a 126.4-square-foot LED illuminated channel letter sign at 436 W JEFFERSON AVE (SOUTH ELEVATION). Staff Recommendation: Approval. SSDAC Recommendation: Pending. Applicant: Bobby Esh of Esh Sign Services Owner: PIAP Properties, LLC Planner: Scott Roper Council District: 1 SIGN-25-000642]
ITEM NUMBER 24.ITEM NUMBER 24 IS SIGN DASH 25 DASH 0 0 6 4 2.
AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY BOBBY ESH OF ESH SIGN SERVICES FOR A 126.4 SQUARE FOOT LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTER SIGN AT 4 36 WEST JEFFERSON AVENUE ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVAL.
SSD RECOMMENDATION WAS WAS APPROVAL.
UM, AGAIN, NO ONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS IN THE CHAMBER.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 24, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER IN THE MATTER OF, UH, SIGN CASE 24.
LET'S SEE SIGN DASH 25 DASH 0 0 6 4 2.
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I MOVE TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND NOT FOLLOW STAFF AND S-S-D-A-C RECOMMENDATION, BUT INSTEAD TO DENY THE SIGN.COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO NOT FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION BUT TO DENY THE REQUEST.
UM, YOU KNOW, CPC HAS THE, UM, PREROGATIVE TO CONSIDER THE EFFECT OF ANY SIGN UPON THAT JASON AND SURROUNDING PREMISES.
UM, IT IS REALLY NOT, IT'S NOT THE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA TO HAVE ILLUMINATED OR ILLUMINATED SIGNS ON THE BACK OF THEIR PROPERTY.
I THINK THE TWO SIGNS THAT WE JUST APPROVED ON THE NORTH AND WEST SIDE ARE, ARE VERY MUCH IN CHARACTER WITH THE AREA, BUT, UM, I DON'T FEEL THAT THE, THE SOUTH SIDE, SOUTH SIDE SIGN, UM, MEETS THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
SO THAT, UM, IS WHY I'M MAKING THE MOTION TO DENY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COLLEAGUES? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO NOT FOLLOW STAFF AND S-S-D-A-C RECOMMENDATION, BUT TO DENY THE REQUEST.
[25. 25-2887A An application for a Certificate of Appropriateness by Nyasha Magocha of Dodd Creative, for a 110.8-square-foot LED illuminated canopy sign at 2013 JACKSON ST (SOUTH ELEVATION). Staff Recommendation: Approval. SSDAC Recommendation: Pending. Applicant: Nyasha Magocha of Dodd Creative Owner: MM Jackson Parking B, LLC Planner: Scott Roper Council District: 14 SIGN-25-000657]
25.UM, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HAS A CONFLICT AND WILL BE STEPPING OUTS.
ALRIGHT, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
ITEM NUMBER 25 IS SIGN DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 6 57.
AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY NIASHA MACHA OF DOD CREATIVE FOR A 110.8 SQUARE FOOT LED ILLUMINATED CANOPY SIGN AT 2013 JACKSON STREET ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
SSD RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
UM, I BELIEVE THERE IS SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ONLINE.
UH, MR. ROBINSON, ARE YOU ONLINE? YES SIR, I AM.
AND I'M THIS AIR FORCE SUPPORT.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER, I'M HERE FOR THAT.
BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT I JUST LOOK FOR Y'ALL'S RECOMMENDATION.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? UH, YES.
MR. CHAIR IN THE, UH, SIGN CASE TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 6 5 7.
I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND S-S-D-A-C RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER'S HOUSE, RIGHT? SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON TO, UM, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND SS DACS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THAT CONCLUDES THE CPCS AGENDA FOR OUR OCTOBER 9TH MEETING, SO WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED AT 3:10 PM THANK YOU.