* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] POC [Special Sign District Advisory Committee on October 14, 2025.] MEETING SURVEY BY CALLS ORDERED. MORNING. MY NAME IS SCOTT ROSER. I'M THE SUPERVISOR FOR THE FOR THE SIGN, THE REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS TEAM FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND I SEE IT SHARING ON SCREEN. GIMME JUST MURPHY. CAN MELISSA, Y'ALL GET IN THE SCREEN SHARE. OKAY. UH, I WAS NOT ANYMORE. UH OH. SHARING SCREEN. OKAY, LET'S START AGAIN. OKAY. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. ALL GOOD. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. TODAY'S OCTOBER 14TH, 2025. THIS IS THE SPECIAL SIGN DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE HAVE ONE CASE TODAY SIGNED DASH TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 1 3 8 9 4 2 6 2 6 HOWELL STREET, SUITE EIGHT 40 IN MCKINNEY AVENUE SIGN DISTRICT. THIS IS IN THE SPINE SUBDISTRICT. THE PROPOSED SIGN IS ATTACHED COMPOSED OF LED ILLUMINATED THREE INCH DEEP REVERSE LIT CHANNEL LETTERS. SIGN EMIT EMITTING A WHITE AND GOLD HALO GLOW TO BE MOUNTED TO INCHES FROM THE FACADE SURFACE USING STANDOFFS ON THE BOWL STREET FRONTAGE APPLICABLE CODE SECTION MINUTE IS 51 A DASH SEVEN 1500 MCKINNEY AVENUE, SPSV SIGN OR SPINE SUBDISTRICT. THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE PRO PURPOSE OF THE, OF THE DISTRICT LOCATION OF SUBJECT TO SITE. IT'S MARKED ON THE MAP. IT IS LOCATED IN THE SPINE SUBDISTRICT LOCATED WITHIN THE KENNY AVENUE SIGN DISTRICT. IT'S APPROXIMATELY ONE AND SIX TENTHS OF A MILE NORTHWEST OF CITY HALL AND EAST OF NORTH STEMMONS, WEST OF NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTH OF WOODALL ROGERS. IT IS IN MCKINNEY AVENUE. UH, AS MARKED ON THE MAP. HERE'S THE AREA MAP AND ZONING MAP WITH THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED SIGN. MARKED YELLOW BEING THE SUBDISTRICT. CORRECT. OKAY. ABOVE SIGN IS TO BE INSTALLED ON THE SOUTHERN FAADE FACING BOLT STREET. THE SIGN IS 223.3 SQUARE FEET AND COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ATTACHED SIGNS IN THE SPINE. SUBDISTRICT. IT IS LOCATED SEVEN TO TWO FEET ABOVE GRADE. DIMENSIONS ARE EIGHT FOOT TWO INCH BY 27 FOOT FOUR INCH, 223.3 SQUARE FEET. IT CONSISTS OF THREE COLORS, THAT'S A PMS 75 46 CPMS 4 57 C AND PMS 75 46 IS 75%. IT'S TECHNICALLY TWO COLORS WITH TWO VARIANTS OF ONE SHADE. IT'S A BLUE AND GOLDEN COLOR. AND HERE'S THE ENGINEERING FOR THE SIGN. HERE'S A PHOTO FROM THE BOWL STREET FRONTAGE OF THE UH, LOCATION WHERE THE SIGNS TO BE MOUNTED. PHOTOS FROM THE STREET LOOKING WEST ON BOWL STREET NORTH ON HALLAM STREET. THIS IS FROM THE CORNER NORTH ON HOWELL STREET AND EAST ON BALL STREET. HERE'S SOME SIGNS AROUND THIS DISTRICT IN THE AREA AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. SCOTT, JUST A QUICK QUESTION. YES MA'AM. ON THE LOGO, HOW IS THAT LOGO? BECAUSE [00:05:04] SAW YES. THE LOGO WILL ALSO BE ILLUMINATED IT, IT IS GONNA ALSO HAVE A HALO LIGHT. OKAY. SO ON THE BLUE PORTION OF THE LOGO IT'S GONNA HAVE A WHITE ILLUMINATION, A HALO ILLUMINATION. ON THE GOLD PART IT'S GONNA HAVE YELLOW HALO ILLUMINATION. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHERE THE, IN THE DESCRIPTION, THAT'S WHERE WITH THE SHAPE OF THE LOGO, I COULDN'T ENVISION HOW YOU WERE GONNA GET THE ILLUMINATION TO WORK, BUT THEN YOU GOTTA SORT OF SIGN EXPERTS NOT NEED IT. IT LIGHT FROM THE BACKSIDE. IT STANDS OFF OF THE WALL TWO INCHES. SO THE LIGHTING ON THE BACKSIDE WILL GET KIND OF A GLOW BACK. JUST A HIGH. OKAY. SIGN THE LIGHT. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FLAT ELEVATION? OKAY. OKAY. WITH ALL THE OLI IN THE AREA, THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S HIGH ENOUGH THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLEARLY VISIBLE. WE'RE DRIVING AROUND, IT WAS JUST HARD TO TELL 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT, BUT RIGHT. AS WE CAN SEE HERE, A LOT OF GREEN STUFF DOWN, WHICH IS WONDERFUL. YEAH. AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'LL BE THIRD FROM THE TOP DOWN. YEAH, IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER. BUT THIS IS THE PHOTO I TOOK FROM THE GROUND. YOU CAN ALL, SO EVEN IF IT'S A PEDESTRIAN LOCK IN, I CAN STILL SEE WHERE THE SIGNS WOULD BE. THAT'S GOOD. LOOK AT ALL THE PIGEONS UP ON THE ROOF. . OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. GOOD QUESTION. MURPHY NO IDEA. MIGHT BEEN LORENZO HOTEL. THEY'RE DOING ROOFING WORK SO THEY PUT FLAGS AROUND THE OKAY, THAT'S, YEAH, I WAS GOING, OH, PLEASE TELL ME. IT'S NOT LIKE WHEN YOU LOOK OUT THE CPC BRIEFING ROOM, THOSE HORRIBLE BIRDS ON THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET. . I'M SORRY, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE HARD, BUT NOT THAT KIND OF HARD. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS GUYS? ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU FOR COMING MR. BROWN. I I THINK THERE WAS SOME PAGES TO SHOW IT. COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M GOOD. OKAY. I CAN PULL UP THE REPORT TO SHOW THAT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. OKAY. WELL, UH, DAVID HAD SOME QUESTIONS. SCOTT'S PULLING UP SOME NO. OH, I THOUGHT SHE HAD A QUESTION. I'M SORRY. SEE? OKAY, THERE IT IS. OKAY. YEAH, I COULD PULL THIS OVER. WHAT'S THE QUESTION? UH, THIS IS THE HALO EFFECT. OH, OKAY. SO YEAH, GONNA KIND OF JUST SHOWS YOU THE YEAH. HOW THAT YEAH, THAT'S GONNA BE ATTRACTED. OKAY. COMPUTER IS A BIT SLOW SO . . OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS THEN MURPHY DID YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THIS IS TODD. I'LL SECOND THAT. MOTION. MOTION. OKAY. MOTION BY MURPHY. AND SECOND BY TIME. OKAY. AND BECAUSE WE'RE DOING VIRTUAL SESSION THEN LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL. VOTE. OKAY. MURPHY? UH, APPROVED. OKAY. TODD APPROVED. DAVID IN FAVOR? COMMISSIONER HALL? UH, YES. OKAY. AND THE CHAIR. VOTE FOR APPROVAL. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. BROWN FOR COMING. AND FOLKS, I'VE BEEN VERY NICE. MM-HMM . WELL DONE. TASTEFUL SIGN. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK. OKAY. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE, BEFORE WE GO TO MINUTES, WE ALSO HAVE THE VOTE ON THE PROPOSED CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR. CAN I ASK, DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO DOWNLOAD AND LOOK OVER IT? ALRIGHT. THANK, UH, ANY? NOPE. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. HI. AND MURPHY, DID YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CALENDAR? I DID NOT LOOK AT THE CALENDAR. OKAY. I DON'T REMEMBER. SEEN IT. PRETTY MUCH. IT'S NOT REALLY CHANGED. CAN WE PULL IT UP? JUST SHARE CHAIR. YEAH, I, YESTERDAY I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING. 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE LEAD TIME TO GET TO CBC. RIGHT? RIGHT. MAIN CONCERN. AND COMMISSIONER HALL DID HAVE QUESTION EARLIER, YOUR SON ABOUT, UM, DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE HAVE SIGNS FOR ALL THESE? WE DO NOT KNOW YET. RYAN. NO. YOU [00:10:01] WILL SEND US A NOTE IF THERE IS NO SIGNED REVIEW THAT CALENDAR DATE. RIGHT. AND SAME THING FOR ARTS DISTRICT. THERE YOU GO. MURPHY. GUYS, CAN YOU SEE IT NOW? GIMME A MOMENT. I GOTTA SHARE IT STILL. OH, OKAY. OKAY. HANG ON. I SPOKE TO SOON. SCOTT'S SHARING IT NOW. THERE WE GO. IT'S JUST LIVE. YOU SEE IT NOW? UH, THERE'S A LAG. THERE IT IS. UM, THERE IT IS. OH YEAH. 'CAUSE HIS COMPUTER'S KIND OF SLOW. OKAY. THERE WE GOT SCROLL. AND AGAIN, THERE IS NO MEETING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER. WELL IT'S, IT'S ALL HERE. YEAH. WE GOT TWO NINE SHOWN WELL THIS YEAR. BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO 2026. OH YEAH. THERE'S NO DECEMBER MEETING SCHEDULED? NOT YET, NO. OH, GOTCHA. I SEE. YOU'RE RIGHT. BE RIGHT HERE. OKAY. YEAH. 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE DECEMBER 9TH. YEAH. YEAH. THIS YEAR, THE 11TH. OH GREAT. THAT'S BEEN GONNA SAY. OKAY. OKAY. ANY CONCERNS OR ISSUES WITH THE CALENDAR THEN? COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR? I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR. OKAY. MOTION A SECOND PLEASE. I SECOND. I SECOND. LET'S JUST CALL SECOND. OKAY. COMMISSIONER HALL SECONDS AND WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE AGAIN. MURPHY UH, APPROVE. OKAY. TODD APPROVED. DAVID APPROVED COMMISSIONER HALL. YES. AND THE CHAIR APPROVES THE CALENDAR FRIENDSHIP. OKAY. THEN THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE, THE LAST MEETING. AND JUST ONE THING. THERE WAS ONE CHANGE AFTER WE APPROVED THE SIGNS FROM THE LAST MEETING. AND THAT WAS, UH, CPC DECIDED ON THE SECONDARY FACADE, WHICH FACED THE PARKING LOT. THAT THAT ONE WAS NOT NECESSARY. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL VOTE WAS. THIS, IT WAS 10 AT THE 10 ZERO. IT WAS UNANIMOUS FROM CITY PLANNING ELECTION. YES MA'AM. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE ONLY THING. AND I WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THAT ONE DID NOT MOVE FORWARD. PA WELL, I THINK CB C'S THE LAST PLACE WE HAD TO GO SO IT DIDN'T COUNSEL ANY OTHER, THERE WERE NO CHANGES TO THE MINUTES AS I SOUGHT. DID ANYBODY KNOW ANYTHING? I DIDN'T. ANY CHANGES EITHER. OKAY. MURPHY, TODD, COMMISSIONER HALL, DID YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES? OKAY, IN THAT CASE THE MINUTES STAND APPROVED IT STATED. AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ISSUES? ANYTHING UPCOMING SIDE THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF? NO. OKAY. THEN ARE WE READY TO ADJOURN? DOES ANYBODY OBJECT TO ADJOURNING EARLY THIS TIME? I DON'T. OKAY. IT IS NOW 10 17 AND THE SDT SIGNED COMMITTEE MEETING AND . THANKS EVERYBODY. AND SCOTT, WOULD YOU AS A COMMISSIONER, UH, KINGSTON JOINED US? I DO. OKAY. YEAH. AND THANKS GUYS. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. GUYS HAVE A GREAT WEEK. YOU BETTER DAVID. THANKS . THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. THINK WE DONE? YES, WE DONE. WELL THIS IS A SWEET DEAL. IT WAS EASY ENOUGH TO DO . I HOPE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DRIVE TOO FAR TO GET DOWN HERE. UM, YOU KNOW NORTH PARK WELL, YOU'RE WAY THAN I AM. I'M WAY UP OFF THE GEORGE BUSH. OH YEAH, I KNOW YOU, YOU OUT MONGOLIA. SCOTT, WHAT DOES THE SIGN CODE SAY ABOUT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.