Nov 06, 2025 Joint Meeting of the Public Safety Committee and Government Efficiency Committee

>> EXCUSE ME. WE WILL NOT HAVE CLAPS OUTBURSTS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

WE WILL ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE BE PROFESSIONAL AND RESPECTFUL ACCORDING TO THE RULES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. BEFORE I CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT ONLY THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS, THE CITY OF DALLAS REGISTER SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED BEFORE THE MEETING.

THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED AFTER THE BUSINESS HAS CONCLUDED.

>> CHAIR, I RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE REGISTERED, BUT I'D LIKE TO OFFER THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE SEE COMMISSIONER JOHN WILEY PRICE IS HERE.

I WANT TO ASK COMMISSIONER JOHN WILEY PRICE TO COME DOWN, HAVE WORDS.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM COUNCILWOMAN, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, JOHN WILEY PRICE, 500 EAST ALM STREET, DALLAS COUNTY.

I COME TO TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF CUSTODY. WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.

MY MIDNIGHT COUNT WAS 6,952.

IF I LOOK AT THE ICE IMMIGRATION HOLES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THEY HAVE INCREASED BY PERIOD OF ABOUT 5%.

AS YOU KNOW, THE JAIL, WE'RE AT BASICALLY AT CAPACITY.

I GUESS WHAT CONCERNS ME WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE ICE HAS BEEN EMBEDDED IN THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.

BUT WHEN WE LOOK UP AND WE SEE IMMIGRATION HOLES TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 700 AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT, THAT GIVES US SOME REAL PAUSE.

WHILE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPLIANCE, AND ON THIS SIDE OF THE ISSUE, YOU'VE GOT TO CONSIDER CUSTODY.

THAT'S CLASSIFICATION.

IT'S ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE STAY IN COMPLIANCE.

YES, WE'RE ABOUT 93% NOW OF WHAT WE CALL OUR JAIL CAPACITY.

BUT THIS CAN HAVE A DEFINITE IMPACT ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DALLAS COUNTY JAIL.

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THERE'S EXPONENTIALLY 7,600 BEDS.

AS I SAID, 6,900 AT MIDNIGHT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR DATA MANAGEMENT UNIT, AND WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF TIME, YES, ICE IS PICKING UP SOMEWHERE 15-20 INDIVIDUALS PER DAY, BUT IT STILL WE'RE AT ABOUT 700.

THAT'S THE MOST WE'VE SEEN PROBABLY IN THE LAST 10-15 YEARS.

NOT ONLY THE HOLES, BUT THE TIME IT'S TAKEN THEM TO PROCESS THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

I TELL YOU, IT'S NOT A ONE SIDED PART OF THE EQUATION.

CUSTODY IS JUST AN IMPERATIVE.

AND WE'VE GOT TO MANAGE CUSTODY.

I KNOW LAW ENFORCEMENT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE WHAT THEY BRING, BUT AT THE MOMENT, THE DALLAS COUNTY DOESN'T MEET ITS CAPACITY.

IN TERMS OF SANCTIONS, IT CREATES A REAL PROBLEM FOR THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS COUNTY.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT ABOUT $19 MILLION PER MONTH.

ON THAT FACILITY, $5 MILLION PER MONTH WITH REGARDS TO PARKLAND.

WE'RE STRETCHED.

WE WANT YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF SO CALLED COMPLIANCE.

IT'S ABOUT WE'VE GOT TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON YOUR PLATE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE AT THE MOMENT YOU START A DIFFERENT ENFORCEMENT MODEL, THEN WHERE DO YOU TAKE THOSE INDIVIDUALS? IT IS A REAL CHALLENGE FOR US ON THE COUNTY SIDE OF THE AISLE.

>> THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER OFFICIALS? GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS?

>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS, REPRESENTATIVE?

>> THANK YOU, MISS BILLY.

>> YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, JOEY DARWIN.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

YOU STARTED OUT BY SAYING THAT YOU WEREN'T LOOKING TO MAKE A DECISION TODAY, BUT I PROPOSE THAT YOU'VE ALREADY MADE THIS DECISION.

MARCH 24, 2021, WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS DEFINITION OF RACIAL EQUITY IS A SITUATION THAT IS ACHIEVED WHEN PEOPLE ARE THRIVING AND RACE NO LONGER STATISTICALLY DICTATES, DETERMINES OR PREDICTS ONE'S SOCIAL OUTCOMES OR ABILITY TO THRIVE.

DALLAS IS A CITY WITH A POPULATION OF JUST UNDER 1,344,000, INCLUDING 41.8% HISPANIC AND LATINX RESIDENTS.

THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS A DEEP RESOLVE TO PROMOTE RACIAL EQUITY, INCLUSION AND DIVERSITY IN ALL ASPECTS OF CITY GOVERNMENT.

THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED RESOLUTION NUMBER 19-08 OH FOUR THAT RECOGNIZED RACIAL EQUITIES BROUGHT ON BY A LEGACY OF SYSTEMIC RACISM AND UNJUST PRACTICES AND RESOLVE TO PROMOTE EQUITY.

WE DESIRE THE CITY OF DALLAS TO BE A PLACE WHERE ALL ARE WELCOME AND TREATED WITH EMPATHY, RESPECT, FAIRNESS, AND TRUST.

THE CITY OF DALLAS SEEKS A MEANINGFUL AND THOUGHTFUL WAY TO HEAL THE WOUNDS OF OUR PAST, RECONCILE THE DIFFERENCES OF OUR PRESENT, AND UNIFY AROUND THE PATH FORWARD TOWARD A FUTURE HOPE FOR ALL RESIDENTS.

THESE ARE YOUR WORDS IN THE DECISION YOU'VE ALREADY MADE.

I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO HOLD TO THE DECISIONS YOU'VE MADE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JESSICA RAMIREZ.

JESSICA RAMIREZ IS NOT PRESENT. JERRY FIGAROA.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS GIARDO VIGRO, 2220 WEST PLANT AND DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS 75208.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO SAY, I AM NOT A ACTIVIST.

I'M JUST A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T BE HERE TODAY.

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK UP, THE PEOPLE THAT FEAR LEAVING THEIR HOUSE, BECAUSE THEY MIGHT GET KIDNAPPED BY ICE.

PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVELY GETTING KIDNAPPED BY ICE WHILE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, GOING TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS AND BEING STRIPPED OF THEIR DUE PROCESS.

PEOPLE ARE IN FEAR, AND DO YOU REALLY THINK HAVING DPD WORK SIDE BY SIDE WITH ICE WILL CALM THOSE TENSIONS? NO, IT WILL NOT.

WHAT IT WILL DO IS SPREAD MORE FEAR AND DISTRUST IN THE POLICE.

YEARS OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH WILL BE FOR NOTHING.

CRIME WILL RISE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AS COMMUNITIES DO NOT REPORT CRIMES.

THIS IS NOT JUST A MONEY ISSUE.

TAKING THIS MONEY COMES WITH A LOT OF STRINGS ATTACHED.

YOU CAN SELL YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL, BUT YOU CAN'T GET IT BACK.

RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF DALLAS IS A MAJORITY LATINO COMMUNITY, IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY.

LET'S NOT FORGET THIS COUNTRY MADE BY IMMIGRANTS.

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EVERY LAST ONE OF A IS AN IMMIGRANT.

MY BLOOD HAS BEEN HERE FOR 20,000 YEARS.

WHO'S MORE AMERICAN? ME OR YOU? YOU OR THEM? HAVING NIGHTS IN OUR STREETS, TAKING THIS BLOOD MONEY IS NOT RIGHT.

NOT RIGHT FOR US. NOT RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

DON'T DO IT, AND WE DO NOT WANT IT. [APPLAUSE]

>> JANET. THERE ARE NO OUTBURSTS.

>> I'M SORRY. OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE DO NOT ALLOW CLAPPING.

I THINK YOU COULD SEE COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN WAS TRYING TO SHOW YOU, YOU CAN WAVE HANDS STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT.

>> THANK YOU. JANETTE MORRISON LANE.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.

I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, I WORK OR I RUN AN ORGANIZATION IN VICKERY MEADOW, WHICH IS A NEIGHBORHOOD FULL OF IMMIGRANT FAMILIES WHO WORK HARD AND WANT THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU AND I WANT, TO EARN A LIVING, TO FEEL SAFE, AND TO FEEL CONNECTED.

IN THE LAST 11 MONTHS, THAT HAS BEEN DISRUPTED.

PARENTS STAY INSIDE.

THEY DON'T TAKE THEIR KIDS TO THE PARK.

THEY LIMIT THEIR TRIPS TO THE GROCERY STORE.

SOME HAVE EVEN TAKEN THEIR CITIZEN CHILDREN OFF OF MEDICAID, BROKEN THEIR LEASES, AND MOVED IN HOPES OF BEING LESS SEEN.

IS THAT WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO CREATE A CITY THAT IS LESS HEALTHY BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO OUTSIDE AND THEIR CHILDREN LOSE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE? PARTNERING WITH ICE DOES NOT FIX OUR CITY.

IT MAKES IT WORSE.

EVERY YEAR, OUR ORGANIZATION HOSTS AN EVENT THAT CELEBRATES CULTURE AND COMMUNITY AROUND THIS TIME.

I EVEN HESITATE TO MENTION IT, AND I'M STILL AFRAID TO MENTION IT BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM, AND I AM AFRAID OF PUTTING OUR COMMUNITY AT RISK.

PLANNING IT HAS BEEN HARD BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP PEOPLE FEEL SAFE ENOUGH TO ATTEND.

THE FACT THAT OUR CITY IS EVEN DISCUSSING PARTNERING WITH ICE MAKES PEOPLE MORE UNCERTAIN AND DISTRUSTFUL.

IS THAT THE CITY WE WANT TO CREATE WHERE PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO ATTEND EVENTS, WHERE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY CAN TRUST? WE ARE PUSHING GOOD PEOPLE INTO THE SHADOWS, ALL BECAUSE WE ARE WILLING TO SELL OUR SOUL FOR $25 MILLION.

I WANT OUR CITY TO THRIVE.

BUT IF IT CAUSES US TO SELL OUR SOUL AND HURT OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS, THIS IS NOT A CITY I WANT TO BE A PART OF.

AND I HOPE YOU ALL ON THIS COMMITTEE FEEL THE SAME WAY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. CHRISTINE HOPKINS.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHRISTINE HOPKINS.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT 1, AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE WEST OAK CLIFF COALITION, AND WE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE THE CITY ENTERING INTO ANY AGREEMENT WITH ICE MUCH LESS THIS 287 G AGREEMENT.

I THINK THE COMMITTEE NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THE EFFECT ON THE DALLAS PD ITSELF VERY CAREFULLY BECAUSE THIS WILL NOT IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF YOUR OFFICERS, NOR WILL IT IMPROVE THEIR MORALE AND NOR WILL IT ACTUALLY DO ALL THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IN THE CITY OF DALLAS TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT MORALE, WHEN OUR FINE OFFICERS WHO ARE IN THIS ROOM AND OUT ON THE STREET, HAVE TO PARTNER WITH ICE AND TEAR APART FAMILIES, TAKE CHILDREN AWAY FROM THEIR MOTHERS AND FATHERS, TAKE MOTHERS AND FATHERS AWAY FROM THEIR CHILDREN? WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THEY KNOW THOSE PEOPLE, WHEN THEY'RE THEIR NEIGHBORS, WHERE THEY ARE DACA RECIPIENTS, WHEN THEY ARE TEACHERS WHO TEACH CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS, WHEN THEY ARE NURSES WHO PROVIDE US HEALTHCARE? ICE RIGHT NOW IS NOT JUST GOING AFTER UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, THE REPORTS ARE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

THEY ARE GOING AFTER DACA RECIPIENTS, PEOPLE WITH LEGAL WORK PERMITS, PEOPLE WHO ARE GREEN CARD HOLDERS.

THIS WILL AFFECT PEOPLE YOU KNOW AND PEOPLE THAT DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS KNOW.

ALSO, LET'S TALK ABOUT A BIG THING THE CITY LIKES TO TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS HOUSING AND HOW BADLY WE NEED WORKFORCE HOUSING.

GUESS WHO BUILD YOUR WORKFORCE HOUSING.

AND WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU SUPERCHARGE THE DETENTION AND DEPORTATION OF CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, ROOFERS, PLUMBERS, ELECTRICIANS? LASTLY, WHAT IS THE EFFECT ON YOUR BUDGET GOING TO BE WHEN DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NAMED ALONGSIDE ICE IN SECTION 1983 LAWSUITS FOR EXCESSIVE FORCE, FOURTH AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS, RACIAL PROFILING, BECAUSE THEY ARE ALONGSIDE ROGUE ICE OFFICERS, NEWLY HIRED AND UNTRAINED?

>> MELINDA FAGAN.

>> HI. MY NAME IS MELINDA FAGAN, AND I LIVE IN EAST DALLAS, AND I'M IN DISTRICT 9.

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I'M A LAWYER, A VOLUNTEER, A TEACHER, A WIFE, AND A MOTHER OF KIDS WHO WENT TO SCHOOL IN EAST DALLAS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THIS IS MY CITY.

I'M A FIFTH GENERATION DALLAS SITE.

FOR DECADES, I'VE WORKED WITH THE IMMIGRANT AND REFUGEE COMMUNITY.

I REPRESENTED THEM.

I'VE BEEN TEACHING ESL, AND I'VE SERVED ON LAURA MILLER'S LATTER PROJECT, HELPING TWO AFGHAN FAMILIES AND A UKRAINIAN FAMILY, AMONG MANY OTHERS FIND HOUSING, JOBS, AND BUILD A LIFE IN THIS CITY.

DALLAS HAS RESIDENTS THAT ARE BLACK, BROWN, WHITE, IMMIGRANTS, CITIZENS, AND THOSE WHO ARE HERE FOR HUMANITARIAN REASONS.

I KNOW THEM. I LOVE THEM.

THEY'RE NEIGHBORS, WORKERS, AND FRIENDS.

IF YOU DECIDE TO PARTNER WITH ICE, WHAT MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING TO THESE RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE BROWN? HOW MUCH FEAR WILL WE INSTILL IN THEM? HOW MANY FAMILIES WILL BE SPLIT UP? HOW MANY CHILDREN WILL BE SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS? IS THAT WHO YOU THINK WE ARE? I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHO DALLAS IS.

THAT'S NOT MY CITY.

WHERE I TEACH ESL LAST SEMESTER IN JANUARY 2025, BEFORE TRUMP TOOK OFFICE, I HAD 18 STUDENTS ENROLLED.

THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF THE SEMESTER, ONE STUDENT SHOWED UP.

WHY? FEAR OF ICE.

TEN YEARS AGO, A HOUSE PAINTER WAS A CRIME VICTIM, AND HE ASKED ME, SHOULD HE GO TO COURT? SHOULD HE REPORT IT? WHAT SHOULD HE DO? WOULD HE BE DEPORTED? I SAID, YES, "YOU SHOULD REPORT IT." IF HE ASKED ME THAT TODAY, MY ANSWER WOULD BE VASTLY DIFFERENT.

I ASK YOU NOT TO PARTNER WITH ICE.

KEEP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL POLICE SEPARATE.

PROTECT WHAT MAKES DALLAS GREAT, KINDNESS AND DIVERSITY.

DON'T SELL MY CITY SOUL OVER $25 MILLION.

>> THANK YOU, ALEX SCOTT.

>> HEY. MY NAME IS ALEX SCOTT, 6472, TRAMMELL DRIVE.

I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR IN DISTRICT 9.

TODAY IS NOT JUST ABOUT MONEY OR MANPOWER, IT'S ABOUT DALLAS' PLACE IN HISTORY.

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S OFFER OF $25 MILLION, BARELY A 3% INCREASE IN THE DALLAS POLICE'S $758 MILLION BUDGET HAS BEEN PRESENTED AS A SOLUTION FOR RECRUITING AND RETAINING POLICE OFFICERS.

IN TRUTH, OUR DEPARTMENT'S RECRUITMENT PROBLEMS STEM NOT FROM A LACK OF FUNDS, BUT FROM HIGH ATTRITION, STRAIN TRAINING CAPACITY, AND BROKEN TRUST WITH OFFICERS LEAVING WITHIN FIVE YEARS BECAUSE THE CULTURE AND CONDITIONS OF THE FORCE REMAIN FUNDAMENTALLY UNADDRESSED.

NOW, WE'RE ASKED TO SOLVE THESE CHALLENGES BY ADOPTING 2287 G, A PROGRAM DEPUTIZING POLICE OFFICERS AS IMMIGRATION AGENTS.

THAT DOES NOT SOLVE THE UNDERLYING ISSUES.

HISTORIANS AND POLITICAL SCIENTISTS WATCH US TO WARN FOR THE SIGNS OF FASCIST DRIFT, PATTERNS WE ARE NOW SEEING ECHOED IN THIS PROPOSAL, UNIFYING ENEMIES, SCAPEGOATS, AND MINORITIES AS A SOURCE OF SOCIAL COHESION.

THE STAIN FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT, SUPREMACY OF A MILITARIZED POLICE FORCE AND USED AS A TOOL OF NATIONAL SECURITY AND NATIONAL PRIDE, CONTROLLED AND PROPAGANDIZED MESSAGE ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE PRESS AND EROSION OF INTELLECTUAL AND ARTISTIC FREEDOM IN THE NAME OF ORDER AND SECURITY.

287 G PROGRAM TYPIFIES THESE WARNINGS.

IT HANDS POWERFUL TOOLS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT NOT TO FIGHT CRIME, BUT TO AMPLIFY FEAR, SOWING DIVISION, AND PRIORITIZING THE INTERESTS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER THE NEEDS OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.

ICE'S OWN REIMBURSEMENT PLAN NOW CREATES A CASH BONUS FOR OFFICERS.

THE MORE IMMIGRANTS THEY ARREST, THE MORE MONEY THE DEPARTMENT RECEIVES.

WE KNOW THAT COMMUNITIES LOSE TRUST WHEN LOCAL OFFICERS ARE REBRANDED AS FEDERAL AGENTS, WHEN PEOPLE FEAR CALLING 911 REPORTING CRIMES AND WORKING WITH POLICE DUE TO THEIR NEIGHBORS STATUS.

HISTORY HAS ALREADY COINED DALLAS AS THE CITY OF HATE.

LET US NOT BE ACTIVE IN ITS RESURRECTION OF THAT TITLE.

>> THANK YOU. HASSANI BURTON.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU SEE ME?

>> YES. WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

>> VERY GOOD. HASSANI BURTON.

LET ME FIRST SAY, I ACTUALLY RESPECT MAYOR JOHNSON'S DECISION TO OPEN UP CONVERSATION ON THIS TOPIC BECAUSE IT IS MOMENTS LIKE THESE IN WHICH PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO FIND OURSELVES AND ARE ABLE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHO WE ARE AS A PEOPLE, AS A CITY AND AS A NATION.

AND I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR BY WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY TODAY.

AND BY WHAT CHIEF COMO HAS ALREADY SAID IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.

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WE DON'T WANT ICE AND DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT WORKING TOGETHER IN THIS FASHION.

AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY.

LAST MONTH, I HAD THE ABILITY TO ATTEND A PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING WITH OUR NEW POLICE CHIEF COMO AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

AND DURING THIS MEETING, RESIDENTS EXPRESSED A NUMBER OF FRUSTRATIONS FROM SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS NOT GETTING THEIR CRIMINAL TRESPASS AFFIDAVITS, ACKNOWLEDGED LOITERING NOT ENFORCED TO RESIDENTS WHO HAD PROBLEMS WITH POLICE RESPONSE TIMES AND NOT SHOWING UP AT ALL.

NOT ONE RESIDENT SAID, "I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH IMMIGRANTS IN MY COMMUNITY." NOT ONE TAXPAYER SAID, "I WANT THE POLICE TO HELP WITH IMMIGRANTS." NOT ONE DALLAS VOTER SAID, "THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED." SO I WOULD LIKE US TO REAFFIRM WE AS A CITY, DO NOT.

THANK YOU. ANGELA QUACH, 5052, DALLAS COUNTY D9.

THANK. ANGELA QUACH.

I'M GLAD TO SEE MY COUNCIL PERSON HERE. THANK YOU.

I'M HOPING TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE YOU THE RIGHT DECISION.

I'M HERE TO URGE THE BOARD AND EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION STAND FOR JUSTICE AND FOR SAFETY.

DALLAS POLICE MUST NOT COLLABORATE WITH ICE.

THEY MUST NOT COLLUDE IN THIS WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT WE SEE IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WHEN POLICE AND LOCAL PARTNERS WORK WITH IMMIGRATION AS IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, IT DOESN'T MAKE US SAFER.

IT MAKES US FEARFUL.

EVERY OFFICER TIED UP WITH ICE WORK IS ONE LESS OFFICER RESPONDING TO AN EMERGENCY, SOLVING A CRIME, HELPING A MOTHER, A CHILD, A VICTIM, AND PROTECTING THEM.

THAT'S NOT PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT'S A WASTED TIME, WASTED MONEY AND WASTED LIVES.

LET'S BE CLEAR. WHEN PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO CALL 91, EVERYONE LOSES.

A MOTHER STAYS SILENT ABOUT ABUSE.

WHEN JUST DOESN'T REPORT A CRIME.

A TEENAGER WATCHES VIOLENCE UNFOLDING SAYS IS NOTHING BECAUSE THEY FEAR DEPORTATION, MORE THAN THEY TRUST OUR POLICE.

THAT FEAR SPREADS, AND THAT PUTS ALL IN DANGER.

DALLAS IS BETTER THAN THAT.

WE ARE A CITY BUILT ON IMMIGRANTS AND FAMILIES AND WORKERS BY THE PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE AND HELP ONE ANOTHER.

OUR POLICE SHOULD BE PARTNERS IN SAFETIES, NOT AGENTS IN SEPARATION.

THE BADGE SHOULD STAND FOR PROTECTION, NOT PERSECUTION.

COLLABORATION WITH ICE TEARS THE FABRIC OF TRUST THAT WE'VE WORKED HARD TO BUILD.

IT BREAKS FAMILIES APART. IT TURNS NEIGHBORS AGAINST NEIGHBORS, AND IT MAKES TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY IMPOSSIBLE.

SO I'M ASKING, I'M BEGGING.

I'M TELLING YOU, CHOOSE COURAGE OVER FEAR AND MONEY.

CHOOSE COMMUNITY OVER DIVISION AND PEOPLE OVER MONEY, CHOOSE TO KEEP ICE OUT OF DPD, BECAUSE WHEN WE PROTECT EACH OTHER, WE RISE TOGETHER SO STOP ICE AND DPD COLLUDING.

I CHALLENGE ALL OF YOU, SHOW UP TO IMMIGRATION COURT.

SEE THE FEAR. I'VE BEEN THERE.

I'VE TAKEN A FAMILY. I HAVE THEIR KEYS.

I KNOW THEIR PLAN. I KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR CHILDREN IF THEY GET DEPORTED.

>> THANK YOU. ANTHONY LAZAN CONDE.

>> IT'S WRONG.

>> GOOD MORNING, COUNSEL, GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE, HERE IN CHAMBERS AND AT HOME AT WORK.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE INDIGENOUS LANDS THAT WE STAND ON TODAY AND REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO THE PROTECTION OF THESE LANDS, WATER, AND ITS PEOPLE.

MY NAME IS ANTONIA CONDE, AND I'M AN ADVOCATE AND COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER THAT STAND IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO ANY PARTICIPATION BETWEEN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ICE.

OVER THE PAST TWO WEEKS, MYSELF, ALONG OTHER COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, HAVE VISITED THE DALLAS IMMIGRATION OFFICES.

AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN CAN BE SUMMED UP IN TWO WORDS, AND THAT IS CRUEL AND INHUMANE.

WE WITNESS WOMEN OLDER THAN MY MOTHER'S AGE BEING ASKED TO SHOW UP BEFORE SUNRISE TO THEIR APPOINTMENTS, ACCOMPANIED BY LOVED ONES WHO TREMBLE IN FEAR AT THE RISK THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR LOVED ONES WALK OUT OF THOSE OFFICES.

WHOLE FAMILIES ESCAPING POLITICAL VIOLENCE, STARVATION, AND FINANCIAL INSTABILITY, TRAVELING HUNDREDS OF MILES, SOMETIMES WITH ONLY THE CLOTHES ON THEIR BACK, BUT A HEART FULL OF DREAMS OF A BETTER LIFE ONLY TO BE SHATTERED BY AN ADMINISTRATION WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE IS TO VILLAINIZE AND TO HUMANIZE OUR PEOPLE.

HOW CAN WE THINK THAT THESE LAWS, POLICIES, AND PARTNERSHIPS WILL PROTECT OUR PEOPLE? WE HAVE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THE BRUTALITY IN

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WHICH THESE ICE AGENTS OPERATE AND TAUNT OUR COMMUNITIES.

OUR PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN FEAR.

OUR BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.

THAT'S CALLED FOR STARVATION AND INHUMANE DISPLACEMENT.

ALL THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THE CITY HAS SPENT ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH IS DIRECTLY THREATENED BY THE POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP.

LAST YEAR, DPD ALLOCATED OVER $20 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

ARE WE WILLING TO PUT THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE MADE FOR GENERATIONS AT RISK TO APPEASE A DICTATOR? LASTLY, I WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR PEOPLE.

[FOREIGN].

>> THANK YOU, KEVIN WINTERS.

>> THANK KEVIN WINTERS, 57 26 GLEN HEATHER DRIVE DALLAS.

THANK YOU FOR THE CHANCE TO SPEAK TODAY.

I STAND WITH CHIEF COMO AND APPRECIATE THIS THOUGHTFUL MEMO PUBLISHED LAST WEEK.

THE CITY'S RESIDENTS WANT DALLAS POLICE TO FOCUS ON ISSUES WE ACTUALLY NEED HELP WITH.

LAST YEAR, WHEN THE CITY PASSED PROPOSITIONS TO FUND OUR POLICE, IT WASN'T ABOUT IMMIGRATION.

WE NEED TO FUND DALLAS POLICE FOR THE ACTUAL PROBLEMS WE FACE.

TO CONSIDER FEDERAL BLOOD MONEY THAT'S BEEN STOLEN FROM AREAS OF NEED LIKE FOOD AND SECURITY AND HEALTHCARE IN EXCHANGE FOR HAVOC AND CHAOS IN OUR COMMUNITIES IS NOT WISE.

WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES WHAT MASS GOONS DO TO REGULAR CITIZENS AND HOW IT CREATES NOTHING BUT FEAR AND PAIN.

UNTRAINED ICE VIGILANTES ARREST FIRST AND ASK QUESTIONS LATER IF THEY ASK THEM AT ALL.

LOCAL POLICE NEED TRUST IN THEIR COMMUNITIES TO BE EFFECTIVE, AND THAT TRUST WILL DISAPPEAR IF WE PARTNER WITH FEDERAL AGENTS WHO HAVE NO CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITIES THEY VISIT.

THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE THEY ARE HERE OR AFTER THEY LEAVE.

THEY ONLY BRING PAIN AND SUFFERING.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THE CHANCE OF PUBLIC COMMENT.

GIVEN THE CHIEF'S STANCE, I'M STILL LEFT ASKING WHO AT CITY HALL THINKS THAT THIS CONTINUED DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER IS WARRANTED? IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITIZENS AND THE CHIEF HAVE ALREADY DECIDED WE DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN.

WHO IS TRYING TO PUSH THIS AGENDA FORWARD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JENNIFER WALKER.

>> HELLO. GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS VICTORIA. I'M AT 6028, SPRING LN RINGGOLD.

YOU MAY BEGIN, MISS WALKER.

I'M JENNIFER WALKER, DISTRICT 14.

WE HAVE A NEW POLICE CHIEF, AND THOUGH IT TOOK A WHILE FOR HIM TO CLARIFY HIS STANCE REGARDING ICE, HE HAS NOW DONE THAT.

HE HAS SAID NO TO 287 G. DOES THE MAYOR OR THIS COUNCIL HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE TO RUN A POLICE FORCE? HE MUST KNOW SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW.

ABOUT WHY THIS WOULD BE DANGEROUS FOR DALLAS.

HE IS SAYING NO.

WHY WOULD YOU SAY YES? WITH A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS, I PATROLLED AN APARTMENT COMMUNITY IN SOUTH DALLAS AT 4:30 IN THE MORNING.

WHY? BECAUSE THIS COMMUNITY WAS HIT HARD BY ICE SEVERAL DAYS IN A ROW.

ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS HAPPENED TO FILM THEM TAKING A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO WAS ON HIS WAY TO WORK.

THEY HAD ON VESTS THAT SAID POLICE, AND WHEN ASKED WHO THEY WERE, ANSWERED POLICE.

I DON'T THINK THE GPD WEARS MASK, I KNOW THEY DON'T DEPORT PEOPLE THEY PICK UP. AT LEAST NOT YET.

THE FEAR AND DISTRUST IS GREAT.

DON'T MAKE IT WORSE.

I'D LIKE TO END WITH A FAMOUS POEM.

FIRST, THEY CAME FOR THE SOCIALISTS AND I DID NOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE I WAS NOT A SOCIALIST.

THEN THEY CAME FOR THE TRADE UNION AND I DID NOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE I WAS NOT A TRADE UNIONIST.

THEN THEY CAME FOR THE JEWS, I DID NOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE I WAS NOT A JEW.

THEN THEY CAME FOR ME, THERE WAS NO ONE LEFT TO SPEAK OUT. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LAURA JACO.

[INAUDIBLE].

I LIVE IN DALLAS DISTRICT 14.

I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE THE COMMITTEE TO VOTE NO ON 287 G AGREEMENT WITH ICE.

NEVER IN MY LIFE, DID I IMAGINE THAT IN THE UNITED STATES, GROUPS OF ARMED THUGS MASKING THEIR FACES LIKE CLAN MEMBERS WOULD BE PULLING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR CARS, RAIDING HOME, BUSINESSES, AND SOMETHING I'VE PERSONALLY WITNESSED AS A VOLUNTEER AT IMMIGRATION COURT, KIDNAPPING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE HALLS OF OUR FEDERAL BUILDINGS.

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VIOLENCE COMMITTED AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS IS THEY'RE VIOLATED WITHOUT PROVIDING A REASON, A WARRANT, OR EVEN ALLOWING SOME OF THE VICTIMS SO MUCH AS A PHONE CALL TO A FAMILY MEMBER? IT IS NOW BLATANTLY OBVIOUS THAT THE PEOPLE BEING TARGETED ARE NOT CRIMINALS.

THEY'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG, BUT THEY ARE BEING THREATENED BASED ON THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN OR THE LANGUAGE THAT THEY SPEAK.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMITTEE THAT BEFORE YOU VOTE, DO A GUT CHECK, ASK YOURSELVES, WHEN IN HISTORY HAVE THE GOOD PEOPLE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN TO THEIR NEIGHBORS? PLEASE ASK YOURSELF WHICH SIDE OF HISTORY YOU WANT OUR CITY TO BE ON.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND REJECT ANY COOPERATION OR COLLUSION WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION'S CRUEL AND RACIST POLICIES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. GENE LIBERTY.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JEAN LAMBERTY.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT 2, I STRONGLY OBJECT TO DALLAS ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ICE.

I'M NOW RETIRED, BUT I TAUGHT ESL AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL IN DISD.

I KNEW MANY IMMIGRANT STUDENTS.

NONE OF THEM WERE CRIMINALS.

MANY WERE MORE EAGER TO LEARN, MORE RESPECTFUL, AND MORE GRATEFUL FOR AN EDUCATION THAN STUDENTS WHOSE FIRST LANGUAGE WAS ENGLISH.

SOME WORKED NIGHTS AND EVENINGS AND WEEKENDS TO HELP SUPPORT THEIR FAMILY.

IF YOU KNOW IMMIGRANTS, THEY CONTRIBUTE MUCH TO OUR CITY.

GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF HOW ICE OPERATES.

I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF A RELATIVE OF MINE WHO LIVES IN EVANSTON, ILLINOIS.

THIS HALLOWEEN, THEY ASKED ICE NOT TO TARGET PEOPLE FOR ONE DAY, KIDS COULD GO TRICK OR TREATING.

INSTEAD, ICE ATTACKED PEOPLE IN THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A MIDDLE SCHOOL.

ONE OFFICER SLAMMED ON THE BRAKES CAUSING A WOMAN TO REAR END HIM.

SHE WAS THEN DRAGGED FROM HER CAR AND ARRESTED.

AN OLD MAN WAS KNOCKED DOWN AND INJURED SO BADLY, HE HAD TO TAKE BE TAKEN TO A HOSPITAL IN AN AMBULANCE.

DO WE WANT OUR POLICE OFFICERS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS BRUTAL TREATMENT OF DALLAS RESIDENTS? NO ONE IN DALLAS SHOULD HAVE THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATED.

DALLAS POLICE SHOULD NOT ACT AS IMMIGRATION OFFICERS.

HELPING ICE WON'T MAKE OUR CITY SAFER.

INSTEAD, MAKING PEOPLE FEAR THE POLICE WILL UNDERMINE THE RULE OF LAW.

PLEASE VOTE NO TO MAKING OUR POLICE OFFICERS COMPLICIT IN ICE RAIDS? VOTE NO ON 287 PROGRAM.

>> THANK YOU. VALLETTA GALATO MONTANO?

>> GOOD MORNING, VIOLETTA DA [INAUDIBLE] MONTEJANO.

>> YOU ARE IMMIGRANT?

>> I'M IMMIGRANT, I'M ALSO AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

TODAY, MY MAIN FEELING IS I'M AFRAID FOR MYSELF.

I'M AFRAID FOR MY LOVED ONES.

I'M AFRAID FOR MY NEIGHBORS AND FOR MY COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE LOCAL POLICE SHOULD FOCUS ON COMMUNITY SAFETY, NO FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

IS COOPERATION, HER TRUST, AND TARGETS PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR CITY.

DALLAS POLICE SHOULD NOT COOPERATE WITH S BECAUSE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DETAINED BY ICE ARE NOT DANGEROUS.

REALLY SMALL, LESS THAN 5% ARE CRIMINAL.

IS KIDNAPPING PEOPLE.

NOT JUST UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE, BUT ALSO AMERICAN CITIZENS, GREEN CAR.

THESE POLICIES HAVE DEEPLY HARMED LATINO AND OTHER BROWN COMMUNITIES.

PUNISHING PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD BY TEXAS AND HELP SUSTAIN DALLAS ECONOMY, AND YET RECEIVE FEWER NO PUBLIC BENEFITS IN RETURN.

AS I SAY, EVEN US CITIZENS AND LEGAL RESIDENTS ARE BEING RITUALLY PROFILED AND HARASSED SIMPLY BECAUSE THE SKIN COLOR, LANGUAGE, ACCENT, OR LAST NAME.

COOPERATION WITH UNDERMINES PUBLIC TRUST AND MAKES AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD LESS SAFE AS PEOPLE GROW AFRAID TO CALL POLICE OR REPORT CRIMES.

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LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD FOCUS ON PROTECTING AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY, NO ENFORCING BROKEN IMMIGRATION POLICIES.

THIS ISSUE SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A POLITICAL WEAPON, WE IMMIGRANTS, WE SHOULDN'T USE AS POLITICAL PAWS.

IT'S ABOUT DEFENDING CIVIL RIGHTS, FAIRNESS, AND THE SAFETY OF ALL DALLAS RESIDENTS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. BU DAN LAI TO YOU.

>> HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS BOGDAN, I'M A LEGAL IMMIGRANT FROM ROMANIA AND A PROUD CONSERVATIVE.

I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS MY FULL SUPPORT OF DALLAS JOINING THE 2027 G PROGRAM AND COLLABORATE WITH IIS.

NOW, YOU MIGHT WONDER, WHY WOULD AN IMMIGRANT SUPPORT THIS? WELL, IT TURNS OUT THAT IF YOU COME INTO THE COUNTRY LEGALLY AND YOU DON'T BREAK THE LAW, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

YES, THERE GOES THE FREE SPEECH.

YET, WE JUST WITNESSED AN ILLEGAL ALIEN BEHEAD SOMEONE IN DALLAS, AN ILLEGAL ALIEN WITH A RAP SHEET, INCLUDING CHILD SEX ABUSE, GRAND THEFT, FALSE IMPRISONMENT, AND CARJACKING.

THAT WAS STILL ROAMING FREE IN OUR CITY.

THERE'S NOT A POLICY FAILURE.

THAT IS A LEADERSHIP FAILURE.

SOMEBODY DROPPED THE BALL, YES, I'M REFERRING TO EVERYBODY HERE FROM THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE MR. MAYOR.

IF HE WOULD BE UP TO ME, I WOULD FIRE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU FOR ALLOWING AN ILLEGAL ALIEN TO MURDER AN AMERICAN.

FUNNY HOW THE FOREIGNER HAS TO ADVOCATE FOR THE SAFETY OF AMERICANS.

NOW, I KNOW WHAT THE LEFT WILL SAY, THEY WILL CALL THIS RACIST AND WHITE SUPREMACY LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY DON'T LIKE.

BUT LET'S BE CLEAR. THIS ISN'T ABOUT RACE.

THIS IS ABOUT RIGHTS.

THE RIGHTS OF AMERICANS TO LIVE IN SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPECT THAT FROM OUR GOVERNMENT.

NOW, MR. MAYOR, YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN OR YOU CLAIM TO BE ONE.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAYOR BEING A REPUBLICAN, I EXPECT TO SEE A LEADER.

FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS, THE DEMOCRATS IN DALLAS URGED THEIR FOLLOWERS TO COME AND SPEAK HERE, WHY HAVEN'T THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DONE SO? WHY HAVE BEEN NO POSTS FROM REPUBLICANS IN DALLAS TO ENCOURAGE THEIR PEOPLE TO COME AND SPEAK HERE, WHY DOES THE FOREIGNER HAVE TO COME HERE? I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE HAVE JOBS, BUT WE HAVE 322,000 PEOPLE IN DALLAS THAT VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP IN NOVEMBER.

YOU'RE TELLING ME THE GOP COULDN'T WRANGLE 10-15 PEOPLE TO COME SPEAK HERE BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS ARE ORGANIZED AND THEY ARE INVOLVED IN CIVICS.

WHY AREN'T REPUBLICANS DOING THE SAME?

>> YOU CAN'T SAY ANY TIME [INAUDIBLE].

>> ROLLINS GILLY LAND?

>> ROLLINS GILLY LAND.

>> ONCE AGAIN, WE ASK EVERYONE TO PLEASE FOLLOW OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU, ROBIN.

>> GILLY LAND IS NOT PRESENT.

>> I'M ROLAND SKI LAND AND EAST DALLAS NATIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE.

IT IS CRITICAL THAT OUR POLICE BE SEEN AS PUBLIC SERVANTS NOT AS A THREAT.

I KNOW THE MISTRUST IN RACIAL ETHNIC MINORITY PARTS OF OUR CITY ALREADY.

I PERSONALLY KNOW WHAT IT WAS TO BE TARGETED FOR RANDOM ARREST UNDER CHIEF TERRELL BOLTON BEFORE WINNING A JURY TRIAL IN 2006.

TODAY, I COUNT AS FRIENDS, THOSE WHO WEAR THE BADGE, BECAUSE OF SUBSEQUENT POLICE CHIEFS LIKE DAVID KONKOL AND SOUTHEAST DIVISION PATRICIA PAUL HELL.

TRUST TAKES ONGOING ACTIVE CARE TO BUILD.

BY 1990, I BEGAN LIVING AS A MINORITY ON A STREET WITH MEXICAN IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, KNOWING PEOPLE WHO RISKED EVERYTHING.

NO THREE GENERATION FAMILIES ARE ENTIRELY DOCUMENTED.

TODAY, THE IDEA THAT NEIGHBORS FELT AFRAID TO GO TO THE STATE FAIR TOGETHER HURTS TO MY SOUL.

FOR SIX YEARS.

MY DISTRICT IS REPRESENTED BY JAMI ROSENDEZ, WHO GREW UP IN PLEASANT GROVE AS ONE OF FIVE CHILDREN OF UNDOCUMENTED PARENTS, ERNESTO AND MARIA.

THEIR SON ELECTED AFTER THREE OF HIS PREDECESSORS WENT TO PRISON.

A SIGN IN MY YARD READS IN SPANISH.

YOU ARE THE AMERICAN DREAM.

ERIS ALSANO AMERICANO.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENGENDER PUBLIC TRUST IN OUR POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH AGENTS WEARING MASKS TO TARGET PEOPLE LIKE HAIME?

>> THANK YOU. STEPHANIE DRINKA.

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>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE DRINKA, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DALLAS ASIAN AMERICAN HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND DISTRICT NINE RESIDENT.

MANY ASIAN IMMIGRANTS COME FROM PLACES WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT MEANT DANGER, NOT PROTECTION.

FOR THEM, DALLAS REPRESENTED SAFETY, DIGNITY, AND A CHANCE TO START OVER.

PEOPLE WHO ONCE FLED STATE VIOLENCE ARE NOW LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDERS AGAIN IN THE VERY COUNTRY THAT PROMISED THEM REFUGE.

AS OF SEPTEMBER 2025, IS REPORTS THAT MORE THAN 59,000 PEOPLE ARE BEING HELD IN DETENTION, AND MORE THAN 70% HAVE NO CRIMINAL CONVICTION.

A NEW UCLA ASIAN AMERICAN STUDY CENTER REPORT FOUND THAT S ARRESTS OF PEOPLE FROM ASIAN COUNTRIES TRIPLED 2024-2025.

NEARLY ONE IN SEVEN UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS IN THE US IS OF ASIAN DESCENT.

WE ARE NOW THE FASTEST GROWING POPULATION IN NORTH TEXAS.

THESE HARMFUL POLICIES AND DISCRIMINATORY NARRATIVES STRIKE DIRECTLY AT THE HEART OF MY COMMUNITY.

HISTORY WARNS US WHERE THIS CAN LEAD.

DURING WORLD WAR TWO, MORE THAN 120,000 JAPANESE AMERICANS, MOST OF THEM CITIZENS WERE IMPRISONED, TORN FROM THEIR HOMES, WITHOUT DUE PROCESS BECAUSE OF THEIR ANCESTRY.

TODAY, THOSE SAME DETENTION CENTERS IN TEXAS AGAIN HOLD INNOCENT PEOPLE IN CONDITIONS THAT ECHO THIS PAINFUL PAST.

THE CITY OF DALLAS WEBSITE STATES THAT ITS CORE VALUES ARE EMPATHY, ETHICS, EXCELLENCE, ENGAGEMENT, AND EQUITY.

AS A HISTORIAN, I WONDER, WHEN FUTURE GENERATIONS LOOK BACK, WILL THEY REMEMBER A CITY THAT EMBODIED THESE VALUES OR ONE THAT INVESTED IN FEAR AND SEPARATION? $25 MILLION MIGHT SOUND LIKE A NICE NUMBER, BUT IS IT WORTH THE COST OF YOUR LEGACY? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, VICTOR MACIAS.

>> HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS VICTOR MACIAS.

I AM A DISTRICT A MEMBER.

IT IS COMPLETELY OUTRAGEOUS THAT THIS IS EVEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION THAT OUR OWN ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE CONSIDERING BEING PART OF THE 287 G PROGRAM.

IT IS CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC THAT YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHEN THIS IS NOT NIBBED IN THE BUTT.

THE COMMUNITY HAS MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT WE DO NOT WANT ANY ASSOCIATION BETWEEN THIS CITY AND ICE.

IT TOOK THIS MAJOR TOPIC TO MOBILIZE CONSTITUENTS OF DALLAS TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP.

THERE IS NO POTENTIAL SAFETY THAT WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE CITY IF THIS COLLABORATION IS PASSED.

THIS WILL ERODE TRUST BETWEEN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENTS AND THE COMMUNITY YOU HAVE SWORN TO PROTECT, SERVE, AND LISTEN TO.

THIS WILL BRING MORE RACIAL PROFILING IN THE STREETS, COSTLY LAWSUITS, AND NEGLECT LOCAL CRIMES.

STATISTICS SHOW THAT 71% OF DETAINEES HAVE NO HISTORY OF CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.

FURTHERMORE, HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE DETENTION CENTERS, HAVE YOU BEEN TO THE IMMIGRATION COURTS? PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING RIGHT NOW HAVE BEEN THERE, INCLUDING MYSELF.

AS ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL HAS SAID, IT IS INHUMANE HOW THEY TAKE THESE INDIVIDUALS AWAY.

THEY TAKE PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPOINTMENTS AT THESE LOCATIONS.

THEY SHRED OUR COMMUNITIES HUMANITY.

THEY USE US FOR PROFIT PRISONS, MAKING MILLIONS OF OTHEIR SUFFERING.

PLEASE, I URGE YOU DO NOT WEIGH WITH THE ONE PERSON WHO SPOKE FOR THE 50 PEOPLE PLUS PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING AGAINST THIS PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I'LL NOW CALL THE NEXT GROUP.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST THREE ROWS OF THIS INTERSECTION.

MICHAELA WATKINS.

MICHAELA WATKINS, IF YOU IF YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE, YOU MAY COME TO THE PODIUM.

JOE COCHRAN, NOELIA ESTRADA, PEYTON JACKSON, DOMINIQUE ALEXANDER, TED EOS, ANTHONY BRIDGES, JESSICA SUAREZ, ELIZABETH GREEN.

JANE CORY, HANSEL VAN QUINZER, LORETA I'M SORRY, LORETTA PEEBLES, PEEBLES.

THANK YOU. ARIEL GEORGE, TAYLOR JONES, JEDI DIA ULRICH, ERICA VARGAS ESTRADA, OSCAR SENTINA, VICTORIA LEATO, RAMIRO LUNA HINOJOSA.

LUCY BOCANEGRA.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE VIRTUAL, I DO ASK THAT YOU GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR AUDIO AND VIDEO PREPARED.

MICHAELA WATKINS.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS MICHAELA WATKINS OF JESSE MORENO'S DISTRICT 2.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, I FIND IT INCREDIBLY DISHEARTENING BUT NOT SURPRISING THAT MAYOR JOHNSON DID NOT FIND NECESSARY TO GRACE US WITH HIS PRESENCE AND HEAR OUT HIS CONSTITUENTS ON A MATTER WITH WHICH HIS OPINION IS AMONGST THE MINORITY.

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I'M DISAPPOINTED, BUT I CAN SAY THAT I AM NOT SURPRISED.

ACROSS OUR COUNTRY, WE HAVE SEEN THE DESTRUCTION OF COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES AT THE HANDS OF MASKED ICE AGENTS.

WE'VE SEEN THE CRYING AND PLEADING OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BEEN STRIPPED FROM THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT, THEIR WORSHIP HOUSES, THEIR SCHOOLS, AND EVEN THEIR APPOINTMENTS AND CHECK-INS WITH IMMIGRATION OFFICES.

OUR NEIGHBORS ARE BEING ASSAULTED, VIOLATED, AND DENIED THEIR DUE PROCESS.

BUT THESE TARGETED ATTACKS ARE AS DISCRIMINATORY AND PROBLEMATIC AS STOP-AND-FRISK IN NEW YORK.

LET ME BE VERY CLEAR.

THESE ARE INDEED TARGETED ATTACKS.

CONTRARY TO THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE EARLIER.

THIS IS ABOUT RACE.

THE REASON THAT HE FEELS PRIVILEGED ENOUGH TO SAY THAT THIS SHOULD HAPPEN IS BECAUSE THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN MAKES HIM ADVERSE TO THE PROBLEM THAT COULD COME HIS WAY.

THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LOOK LIKE ME THAT LOOK LIKE MOST OF YOU BEFORE ME, WE ARE THE ONES THAT WILL BE PULLED ASIDE, NOT HIM.

I BEG HIM TO CHECK HIS PRIVILEGE.

I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT ERIC JOHNSON WANTS THE GOOD BOY PAT.

HE WANTS TO BE ACCEPTED BY THIS CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION.

HE WANTS TO TAKE ON THE APPROVAL OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, SO HE CAN GO ON TO HIS NEXT CONQUEST.

ERIC JOHNSON ISN'T HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY ONTO THE NEXT MOVE.

THERE'S CONTINUOUS SPECULATION OF HIM PREPARING TO STEP DOWN, AND THERE'S ALSO SPECULATION THAT HE MAY JUST BE ASKED TO BE REMOVED.

ERIC JOHNSON IS NOT KNOWN FOR MAKING GOOD DECISIONS FOR OUR CITY, AND THAT HAS TO STOP.

WE NEED TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR CITIZENS, FOR OUR NEIGHBORS, FOR OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS.

THEY DESERVE SAFETY.

THEY DESERVE DUE PROCESS.

THEY DESERVE RESPECT.

AT THE HANDS OF 287(G), THEY WILL BE DENIED THAT.

IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE ARE BETTER.

WE DESERVE BETTER, AND WE SHOULD BE BETTER.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] JILL COCHRAN.

>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JILL COCHRAN.

I LIVE IN EAST DALLAS AND DISTRICT 9.

I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO ANY 287(G) AGREEMENT OR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ICE.

WE'VE SEEN THIS STORY BEFORE.

WHEN FEAR GETS DISGUISED AS PUBLIC SAFETY, HARM ALWAYS FOLLOWS.

FROM PAST DEPORTATION CAMPAIGNS TO TODAY'S ABDUCTIONS AND RAIDS, THE RESULT IS ALWAYS THE SAME, BROKEN FAMILIES AND BROKEN TRUST.

ANY COLLABORATION WITH ICE IS A HORRIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF PUBLIC TRUST.

287(G) WILL NOT MAKE OUR CITY SAFER.

IT WILL MAKE OUR RESIDENTS LESS LIKELY TO CALL 911, REPORT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, OR COOPERATE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IT WILL MAKE THEM AFRAID TO TRUST THE VERY INSTITUTIONS MEANT TO PROTECT THEM.

WHEN TRUST BREAKS DOWN, CRIMES GO UNREPORTED AND NEIGHBORHOODS BECOME LESS SAFE FOR EVERYONE, REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS.

WHEN FAMILIES LIVE IN FEAR, THAT'S NOT PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT'S A FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP.

WHEN DALLAS CALLS ITSELF A CITY OF COMPASSION, COURAGE, AND COMMUNITY, LET'S PROVE IT.

SHOW SOME MORAL COURAGE.

STAND FOR THE DALLAS WHERE ALL FAMILIES BELONG, WHERE JUSTICE MATTERS, AND WHERE FEAR NEVER WINS.

AS DR. KING SAID, THE TIME IS ALWAYS RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT TIME IS NOW.

VOTE NO ON 287(G) AND ANY COLLABORATION WITH ICE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. NOELIA ESTRADA.

>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILS.

MY NAME IS NOELIA ESTRADA.

I LIVE IN NORTH DALLAS AND DISTRICT 11.

I AM A FIRST-GEN IMMIGRANT, AND I'M A BENEFICIARY OF THE DACA THAT WAS PASSED.

I AM A PERMANENT RESIDENT WHO IS LOOKING TO DO DUE PROCESS NEXT YEAR TO BECOME A FULL CITIZEN.

I'M HERE TO STAND UP AGAINST MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE, HONESTLY, IT'S A SHAME THAT ERIC JOHNSON EVEN BROUGHT THIS AND BROUGHT YOU GUYS HERE TO EVEN REDISCOVER THIS IDEA OF 287(G).

CHIEF OF POLICE COMO ALREADY SAID THAT THIS IS SHAME.

SHAME ON ANYBODY WHO IS EVEN TRYING TO PASS THIS.

HE SAYS, OKAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO SMOKE.

AGREEING TO 287(G) IS GOING TO BE BRINGING THE SMOKE.

RIGHT NOW, UP THE HIGHWAY ON 35, THE ICE ATTENTION ARE CURRENTLY HOLDING PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING KIDNAPPED RIGHT NOW FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THEY ARE BEING SEEN WITHOUT THEIR MEDICAL NECESSITIES.

I WAS A PRACTICING NURSE ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO, AND KNOWING THAT THERE ARE CURRENT DETAINEES WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR MEDICATIONS, WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR MEDICAL NECESSITIES, IT'S INHUMANE.

LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND BEFORE WE CONSIDER BRINGING 287(G) BACK.

ALSO, OUR COMMUNITIES HERE IN DALLAS CELEBRATE IMMIGRANTS.

IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE REUNION TOWER, THEY HAD THE MEXICO.

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THEY'VE HAD ALL OF THE FLAGS ALL OVER THE CITY, AND REDISCOVERING THIS IS GOING TO BE A TURN AGAINST THEM.

LET US NOT FORGET, THE SUPREME COURT HAS ALLOWED COMMUNITIES TO BE RACIALLY PROFILED.

WE ARE NO EXCEPTION TO THAT.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO BRING TO THESE STREETS.

PLEASE, COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, YOU REPRESENT MY DISTRICT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, YOU WERE IN DECISIVE.

I'M SPEAKING TO YOU. PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR COMMUNITIES.

THE COMMUNITY IN NORTH DALLAS IS A BEAUTIFUL CITY, AND BRINGING 287(G) IS NOT GOING TO KEEP IT THE WAY THAT IT IS.

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT RIGHT NOW, THE WAY ICE IS WORKING IS WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ARREST FIRST, THEN QUESTIONS LATER, AND WE DO NOT NEED THAT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. PEYTON JACKSON.

>> WELL, GOOD MORNING.

THE GREAT JOHN KENNEDY ONCE SAID, WHENEVER I FEEL INADEQUATE, AND SOMETIMES I DO.

I JUST LOOK AROUND. BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T ENOUGH FOR YOU TO WASTE $30 MILLION ON A BUILDING FOR INSPECTORS THAT YOU DIDN'T FULLY HAVE INSPECTED.

IF THAT WASN'T ENOUGH, IN ADDITION, SOMEHOW, SOME WAY, A COP HAD THE AUDACITY, THE AUTHORITY TO TURN DOWN $25 MILLION AS IF WE SHOULDN'T WANT TO PARTNER WITH ICE FOR FREE.

ICE FACILITY WAS JUST UNDER ATTACK.

WEEKS BEFORE THAT, AN ILLEGAL ALIEN BEHEADED SOMEONE AT 9:00 AM.

THEN KICKED THE HEAD ACROSS THE PARKING LOT, AS IF IT WAS A SOCCER BALL.

YOU TURNED DOWN $25 MILLION, AS IF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AREN'T BEING INVADED, AS IF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AREN'T OVERCROWDED, AS IF OUR RESOURCES AREN'T BEING DEPLETED.

AS IF THE CENSUS ISN'T INFLATED, YOU TURNED DOWN $25 MILLION.

HOW DARE YOU? [FOREIGN], BECAUSE THE ONLY RIGHT THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE AFTER BREAKING INTO THIS COUNTRY IS THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, BUT YOU CAN CALL YOUR NEXT SPEAKER.

>> THANK YOU. DOMINIQUE ALEXANDER.

[NOISE]

>> ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE, LET'S BE RESPECTFUL TO ALL. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

>> HOLD ON, MR. DOMINIQUE.

>> PAUSE MY TIME.

>> CAN SOMEONE ASSIST HER, PLEASE?

>> RECLAIMING MY TIME?

>> THANK YOU. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR TIME.

>> PERFECT. GOD BLESS. I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY OUTRAGED, OUTRAGED THAT WE ARE EVEN HERE TO DISCUSS.

THE FACT THAT WE ARE HOLDING THIS MEETING SHOWS HOW FAR OUR CITY HAS FALLEN UNDER THE FAILED LEADERSHIP OF MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON, WHO CONTINUES TO PLAY AT THE BEAT OF THE AGENDA OF THE GRAND WIZARD DONALD TRUMP.

THE CITY OF DALLAS IS NOT A CITY OF HATE.

IT IS A CITY OF HOPE.

IT IS A CITY MADE UP OF EVERY RACE, COLOR, AND CREED, AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

IT IS A CITY OF DIVERSITY ROOTED IN ITS IMMIGRANT HISTORY, BUILT ON THE HANDS THAT CAME FROM EVERY CORNER OF THIS WORLD.

YES, WE HAVE CHALLENGES.

YES, WE FACE CRITICAL ISSUES EVERY DAY.

BUT ONE THING YOU MUST REMAIN TRUE WHEN YOU COME FOR ONE, YOU COME FOR ALL OF US.

STANDING AGAINST DONALD TRUMP AND HIS RACIST ATTACKS AGAINST IMMIGRANTS AND NOT ONLY THE ISSUE.

IT IS NOT ONLY AN ISSUE OF THE LATINO DIASPORA, BUT AN ISSUE OF THE AFRICAN DIASPORA.

THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS IMPACTED ALL COMMUNITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.

AMERICA RIGHT NOW IS BEING DRIVEN BY A FEAR-MONGERING TACTIC THAT IS A OLD AS JIM CROW.

THE TACTIC THAT DESIGNED TO DIVIDE, DISTRACT, DESTROY.

I WILL NOT STAND AND ALLOW OUR CITY TO BE HOODWINKED AND BELIEVING INTO THIS STUPIDITY. LET ME BE CLEAR.

DALLAS POLICE CHIEF DECISION TO REJECT $25 MILLION PARTNERSHIP MAY NOT BE MY PERSONAL POSITION, BUT I SUPPORT IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BECAUSE OUR POLICE SHOULD NOT BE AGENTS OF DIVISION.

THEY SHOULD BE AMBASSADORS OF PEACE.

THEIR DUTIES SHOULD BUILD BRIDGES WITH OUR COMMUNITIES, NOT TEAR THEM DOWN.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SERVE ALL OF THE CITIZENS AND NOT COOPERATE WITH FEDERAL ROOTED IN HATE AND FEAR.

I ASKED MY CITY TO FIND A BACKBONE AND STAND UP.

COUNCIL, YOU ALL HAVE TO TELL ERIC JOHNSON NO, TO NOT HAVE THIS MEETING.

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THE FACT THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS MEETING TODAY IS ABSURD.

>> TED EOS. HE'S NOT PRESENT.

>> 14-1 IS REAL.

ANTHONY BRIDGES.

>> MY NAME IS ANTHONY BRIDGES FROM DISTRICT 9.

I'M EXCEPTIONALLY DISAPPOINTED TO BE HERE ONCE AGAIN INSISTING THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS DOESN'T COLLUDE WITH ICE.

I FEEL LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, SAYING, HEY, DON'T LET FEDERAL THUGS SUBDUCT OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM THE STREETS AND THE COURTS.

BUT I GUESS SOMETHING IS GETTING LOST IN TRANSLATION.

HERE'S A FRIENDLY REMINDER ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF A POLITICIAN.

YOUR JOB IS TO LISTEN TO THE WANTS AND NEEDS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEN ADVOCATE FOR THOSE WANTS AND NEEDS IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

WE, THE CONSTITUENTS, ARE HERE TODAY TO TELL YOU NOT TO SELL OUT THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS FOR MONETARY GAIN.

WHAT IS $25 MILLION TO THE CITY OF DALLAS IN OUR $5.2 BILLION BUDGET? ONCE WE CUT THROUGH THE UNSUBSTANTIATED NONSENSE OF THE SITUATION, WE HAVE TWO OPTIONS, THE RIGHT THING TO DO, AND THE CORRUPT SCUMBAG THING TO DO.

HOW BIG WAS A DIRECT DEPOSIT IN THE BANK ACCOUNT THAT INCENTIVIZE YOU TO PUSH 287(G).

MAYOR JOHNSON, WHO, UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T ASK THAT QUESTION TO YOU TODAY.

THE WINDS OF AMERICAN POLITICS ARE CHANGING.

MAMDANI HAS STARTED THAT POLITICAL REVOLUTION, AND SOON, BEING A CORRUPT SCUMBAG WILL DISQUALIFY YOU FROM HOLDING OFFICE BY THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.

DECISIONS LIKE THESE THAT SO NEGATIVELY REVERBERATE IN THE HEARTS, MINDS, AND LIVELIHOODS OF OUR COMMUNITY WILL NOT BE SOON FORGOTTEN.

YOUR VOTING RECORD ON THIS DECISION WILL NOT BE SOON FORGOTTEN.

IF YOU WOULD SELL US OUT NOW, THEN YOU ARE DOING A DISSERVICE TO PEOPLE WHO AT ONE POINT BELIEVED IN YOU, AND YOUR A DISGRACE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

OR YOU COULD NOT LET THE CITY DOWN AND DO WHAT YOUR PEOPLE WANT.

IT'S REALLY THAT SIMPLE.

THIS IS A BARE MINIMUM EXPECTATION.

REALLY, WHAT I WANT IS FOR YOU TO DEFEND OUR COMMUNITY AND FIGHT TO HELP THEM.

I WANT YOU TO ACTIVELY WORK TO FREE YA'KUB IRA.

ALL HE IS GUILTY OF IS ADVOCATING FOR HIS COMMUNITY, AND WE CAN'T ALLOW THAT TO BE A PUNISHABLE CRIME.

FIGHT FOR YOUR PEOPLE WHO NEED YOU, WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN, AND DON'T ASSIST ICE IN TAKING ANY MORE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JESSICA SUAREZ.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JESSICA SUAREZ.

I'LL BE HERE IN BEHALF OF THE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN I SERVE THROUGHOUT DALLAS.

FIRST, I WANT TO COMMEND OUR DALLAS POLICE CHIEF.

THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY OWES YOU DEEP RESPECT FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE STANCE YOU'VE TAKEN.

FOR OVER A DECADE, I'VE WORKED DIRECTLY WITH HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES AS A PARENT LEAD EDUCATOR AND SUPERVISOR IN A STATE-FUNDED PROGRAM.

I'VE SEEN BOTH STRENGTHS AND THEIR FEARS.

THE QUIET FEAR OF NOT KNOWING IF THEIR FAMILY WILL STILL BE TOGETHER TOMORROW IS WHAT HAS ME HERE TODAY.

CHILDREN HAS ME HERE TODAY.

THE PAST SUMMER, TWO YOUNG BROTHERS DREW A PICTURE THAT BROKE MY HEART.

THEY'RE HOME ON ONE SIDE, OR RIVER, ON THE OTHER.

WHEN I ASKED WHY, THEY SAID, WHAT HAPPENS IF MY PARENTS GET DEPORTED? THAT'S THE PAIN IN OUR CHILDREN.

THAT'S THE ANXIETY THAT THEY CARRY RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, AND I'M STANDING HERE.

THERE'S A CHILD RIGHT NOW IN FEAR THAT THEY WILL COME HOME AND THEIR PARENTS WILL NOT BE HOME.

THEIR MOTHER OR THEIR FATHER MAY NOT PICK THEM UP TODAY.

CHILDREN ARE AFRAID, SITTING IN CLASSROOMS IS AFRAID OF A POLICY THAT MAKES THEM FEEL UNSAFE.

WE MUST NOT PARTNER WITH 287(G), A BROKEN PROGRAM THAT SEPARATES FAMILIES, DENIES MEDICATION, AND LEAVES PEOPLE WITHOUT ANSWERS.

ICE WEBSITE RIGHT NOW HAS A DISCONNECTED NUMBER.

THEY'RE NOT EVEN PICKING UP.

DALLAS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CITY OF DIVERSITY, HEART, AND RESILIENCE.

LET'S CONTINUE TO BE A CITY OF DIRECTION AND PEACE, A CITY THAT SHINES LIKE OUR SKYLINE AT NIGHT, BUILD BY HARDWORKING IMMIGRANTS WHO BEAUTIFY AND STRENGTHEN THESE COMMUNITIES EVERY DAY.

LET US CONTINUE TO BE A CITY THAT PROTECTS, NOT PERSECUTES.

I ASK EACH OF YOU BEFORE YOU VOTE CHECK THE CONDITION OF YOUR HEART BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOUR CREATOR CARES MORE ABOUT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ELIZABETH GREEN.

>> ELIZABETH GREEN, DISTRICT 9.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M PROUD OF MY CITY'S POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WHEN I USED TO WORK AT PARKLAND HOSPITAL, I WOULD MOONLIGHT FOR THE RIGHT CARE TEAM.

I SAW HOW OUR POLICE INTERACT IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I WAS PROUD TO WORK WITH OUR OFFICERS.

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I DON'T KNOW WHY OUR MAYOR DOES NOT TRUST OUR CHIEF OF POLICE, DANIEL COMO.

TO ME, HE HAS SHOWN GREAT INTEGRITY IN REFUSING MONEY TO PARTNER WITH ICE.

I WORK AS A MENTAL HEALTH THERAPIST.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I HAVE CLIENTS WHO ARE SCARED TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES.

THESE PEOPLE HAVE JOBS IN TECH, EDUCATION, MEDICINE, ETC, AND THEY ARE PARALYZED WITH FEAR.

THIS DOES NOT HELP OUR LOCAL INDUSTRY.

IT IS AN EMBARRASSMENT, AND IT WILL SLOW OUR GROWTH AND EFFICIENCY.

DALLAS HAS INVESTED IN OUR SPORTS VENUES, ENTERTAINMENT, AND FAMILY-FRIENDLY TOURISM.

BUT IF PEOPLE DO NOT FEEL SAFE TO VISIT HERE, THIS LIMITS THE MONEY THAT CAN BE CIRCULATED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

THERE ARE OTHER PLACES THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE THEIR FAMILIES WHERE THEY DO NOT FEEL THREATENED.

THE MONEY BEING OFFERED, THAT 25 MILLION, IT'S NOT GOING TO DO US ANY GOOD IF WE GO THE WAY OF OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE HAD INCREASED PARTICIPATION WITH ICE.

MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE ENDED UP HAVING TO PAY OUT MONEY DUE TO LAWSUITS AND SETTLEMENTS RESULTING FROM THE WAYS THAT ICE HAS MISMANAGED THEIR ARRESTS.

THESE COSTS RANGE FROM 55,000 FOR INDIVIDUALS ALL THE WAY UP TO $14 MILLION CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS AGAINST LA COUNTY FOR ICE HOLDS.

THIS MONEY DID NOT COME FROM ICE, BUT IT WAS PAID BY LA COUNTY.

THERE'S A HUGE POTENTIAL FOR MISMANAGEMENT, AND IT WILL BE DALLAS THAT PAYS THE PRICE, THUS WEAKENING ANY ARGUMENT THAT THIS IS GOOD FOR GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY.

WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC SAFETY, I'M SURE THAT OUR CHIEF OF POLICE KNOWS HOW TENUOUS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ITS CITIZENS CAN BE.

WE WANT TO STRIVE TO BE A CITY WHERE OUR CITIZENS CAN TRUST OUR POLICE.

FOR THE LAW TO BE ENFORCED, PEOPLE HAVE TO TRUST THAT THE PEOPLE MAKING ARRESTS ARE DOING SO LAWFULLY AND WITH ACTUAL PUBLIC SAFETY IN MIND.

I CAN SAY FOR MYSELF, AND I SUSPECT FOR THE OVER 10,000 PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THE NO KINGS PROTEST HERE IN DALLAS, THAT A PARTNERSHIP WITH ICE WILL FEEL LIKE A HUGE BETRAYAL.

WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN CAPITULATING TO THIS ADMINISTRATION.

THEIR TIME HERE IS LIMITED, BUT THIS IS OUR HOME.

I HAVE ADMIRED OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT I WILL MAKE IT MY DUTY TO WORK AGAINST THEM ANY CHANCE I GET WHEN IT COMES TO THE UNWARRANTED DETENTION OF MY NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JANE COLEY.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JANE CORLEY.

I'M AN OLD LAWYER, AND I'VE RAISED TWO KIDS IN DALLAS.

I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING DALLAS HAS OFFERED TO ME AND MY FAMILY.

I CONCUR WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS JOINT STATEMENT REGARDING THE MAYOR'S IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT OR ICE 287 MEMORANDUM OF OCTOBER 19 OF THIS YEAR, WHICH STATES THAT THE WRITERS REMAIN CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRACTICES BEING DEPLOYED BY ICE AGENTS THROUGH FEDERAL DIRECTIVES.

THEY AND CHIEF COMO HAVE VERY GOOD AND MULTIPLE REASONS FOR THIS.

WITH RECENT REPORTS THAT ICE AGENTS HAVE DETAINED AT LEAST 170 CITIZENS FOR DAYS, ENGAGED IN RACIAL PROFILING OF LATINX PEOPLE, AND CAUSED SERIOUS BODILY INJURY TO UNARMED SUSPECTS, IT'S NO WONDER THE CHIEF REJECTED THIS DEAL.

ENGAGING IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT WOULD SUBJECT THE CITY TO ENORMOUS LEGAL LIABILITY OF 287(G), DESIGNATED OFFICERS ARE EMPOWERED TO TARGET THESE COMMUNITIES, AND FROM A FISCAL STANDPOINT ALONE, IT'S PLAIN THAT THIS IS RISKY BUSINESS.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE PEOPLE, NOT BUDGETS.

WE ARE JUSTIFIABLY APPALLED AT REPORTS OF WHAT ICE HAS BEEN DOING TO PERSONS OF COLOR NATIONWIDE IN ITS MISGUIDED PURSUIT OF A FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT DEMONIZES IMMIGRANTS.

I UNDERSTAND DPD HAS INVESTED A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND EFFORT, BUILDING TRUST WITH THESE COMMUNITIES.

WITH COMMUNITY DISTRICT DISTRUST IN POLICE AT HISTORIC LOW NATIONWIDE AND IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PUBLIC SAFE, WE NEED TO LET DPD CONTINUE TO BUILD THIS TRUST AND NOT GET SIDETRACKED INTO A FISCALLY TEMPTING BUT ILL CONCEIVED FEDERAL AGENDA.

AS A CITY, WE NEED TO SHOW MORE CARE FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT TARGET THEM FOR A QUICK BUCK.

THANK YOU, IN ADVANCE, FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING.

>> THANK YOU. HANSEL VAN QUINZER, IS NOT PRESENT. LORETTA PEEBLES.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LORETTA PEEBLES.

I LIVE IN EAST DALLAS DISTRICT 14.

I COME THIS MORNING TO RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO REJECT THE $25 MILLION.

POLICE CHIEF COMO KNOWS THAT THE MONEY ON THE TABLE IS NOT FREE.

THE HIDDEN COST WILL BE THE DECIMATION OF OVER 40 YEARS OF DALLAS COMMUNITY POLICING IN IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORHOODS.

HE UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS TRUST WILL BE WIPED OUT IF OUR FINE MEN AND WOMEN IN BLUE ARE SEEN HELPING ICE AGENTS WHOSE TRAINING HAS ALREADY SHRUNK FROM 27 WEEKS TO SIX.

WE'VE ALL SEEN THE VIOLENT IMAGES, IN THE NEWS,

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OF EXCESSIVE FORCE BY LARGE GROUPS OF MASKED AND CAMOUFLAGED MEN MADE BRAVE AND RECKLESS BY THEIR ANONYMITY.

THIS WILL NOT END WELL.

PLEASE LISTEN TO OUR POLICE CHIEF AND REJECT THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

IN THE END, IT ISN'T FREE MONEY, AND THAT LOAN SHARK INTEREST WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD LONG AFTER WE IN THIS ROOM ARE ALL GONE, TO BE PAID BY DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS NOT YET BORN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ARIEL GEORGE.

>> MA'AM, BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ALSO EXIT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK UP THE STAIRS IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE.

>> HI. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ARIEL GEORGE, AND I AM FROM DISTRICT 6.

TODAY, I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT WHY I WANT US TO SAY NO TO THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

IN 2007, THE MARICOPA COUNTY IN ARIZONA WAS ONE OF THE FIRST COUNTIES TO ACCEPT IT, AND THIS LED TO A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT, ORTEGA MELENDRES VS ARPAIO, ALLEGING MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE ENGAGED IN RACIAL PROFILING AND UNLAWFUL TRAFFIC STOPS OF LATINX DRIVERS.

THE COURT FOUND IN FAVOR OF THE PLAINTIFFS AND THE FEDERAL JUDGE RULED THE MARICOPA SHERIFF'S OFFICE PROFILED AND ILLEGALLY DETAINED LATINX PEOPLE, VIOLATING THEIR FORCE AND THEIR 14TH CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCH AND SEIZURE AND EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW.

THE MELENDRES VS ARPAIO CASE ALONE HAS COST TAXPAYERS OVER $300 MILLION AND WILL COST A TOTAL OF $353 MILLION BY THE END OF 2026.

ALMOST TWO DECADES LATER, THE MARICOPA TAXPAYERS CONTINUE TO PAY THE PRICE FOR THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

>> THANK YOU. TAYLOR JONES.

>> HI. GOOD MORNING. THERE GOES MY TIMER.

MY NAME IS TAYLOR JONES, AND I RESIDE IN DISTRICT 14.

I'M HERE BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DALLAS IS NOT JUSTICE.

IT IS FEAR DISGUISED AS LAW.

WE WANT NO DPD AND ICE SOLUTION, AND NO 287(G) AGREEMENT OR COOPERATION.

HAVE WE NOT SEEN ENOUGH? HAVE WE NOT HEARD ENOUGH STORIES, WATCHED ENOUGH FAMILIES TORN APART, ENOUGH PEOPLE BRUTALIZED IN PUBLIC SPACES TO FINALLY SAY ENOUGH? IN MY EXPERIENCE, GOVERNMENT WORKS BEST WHEN WE AREN'T HEARING ABOUT IT.

WHEN IT PROTECTS QUIETLY, SERVES FAIRLY, AND HONORS THE PEOPLE IT REPRESENTS.

YET, I'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THIS COMMITTEE TWO TIMES IN TWO AND A HALF MONTHS.

IT IS NOT WORKING.

TODAY, THE SYSTEM IS BEING USED TO HARM, TO INTIMIDATE, TO HUNT IN PLAIN SIGHT.

IT IS NOT ABOUT BUDGET, IT IS ABOUT HUMANITY.

WHAT AGREEMENTS LIKE THESE REALLY MEAN? THE UNSPOKEN PART. WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED ABOUT THIS ADMINISTRATION? NOTHING IS FREE. EVERYDAY THAT LOCAL OFFICERS COOPERATE, EVERY MOMENT OF COMPLICITY FROM OUR LEADERS, STARTS TO INGRAIN THESE ATROCITIES INTO NORMAL THEME.

BUT THIS IS NOT NORMAL.

FEAR IS NOT SAFETY, SILENCE IS NOT LEADERSHIP, OBEDIENCE IS NOT MORALITY.

A 287(G) AGREEMENT ONLY DEEPENS THIS FEAR, THIS NORMALIZATION OF CRUELTY, THIS BETRAYAL OF PUBLIC TRUST.

TURNING OUR POLICE INTO ICE DEPUTIES, OUR CITIES INTO AN ARM OF THE FEDERAL DEPORTATION FORCE, A MILITIA BUILT INSIDE OUR OWN CITY.

WE ARE TIRED OF CRUELTY BEING CALLED ORDER AND FEAR BEING CALLED SAFETY.

I ASK YOU, WHEN WILL SOMEONE IN POWER FINALLY SAY THE OUT LOUD PART THAT WE ARE ALL THINKING? THIS IS NOT NORMAL.

WE SUPPORT THE POLICE CHIEF TO STAND UP AND TELL THEM NOT TODAY, NOT IN THIS CITY, NOT IN OUR NAME.

TO OUR FOE ON THE RIGHT WHO PREVIOUSLY SPOKE AND TUCK TAILED BEFORE HEARING US OUT, WE WILL BE THE AMERICANS TO STICK UP FOR HIS IMMIGRANTS RIGHT REGARDLESS OF THE SIDE OF THE FENCE IN WHICH HE FALLS.

BUT I DO AGREE WITH ONE THING HE SAID, THEY COULDN'T GET 10-15 PEOPLE TO SPEAK FOR THE AGREEMENT.

I THINK THAT IS TELLING TO THE SENTIMENTS OF DALLAS FINES. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JEDI DIA ULRICH.

>> HELLO. I'M JEDIDIA, JED ULRICH.

I AM ALSO WITH THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIAL AMERICA, NORTH TEXAS CHAPTER.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL, BUT I AM PINCHING PENNIES QUITE A BIT LATELY.

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I CAN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THE CITY IS DOING THE SAME BETWEEN THIS VERY BUILDING WE'RE IN AND COUNTLESS ISSUES HERE ON THE STREETS.

WITH PROPS SNU PASSED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THERE'S LEAVING THE CITY FAIRLY VULNERABLE.

I KNOW YOU HAVE 4,000 POLICE OFFICERS TO MEET THAT QUOTA.

WAS IT $25 MILLION? WHATEVER THE HECK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS OFFERING YOU FOR THIS IS PRETTY TEMPTING.

WELL, I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, DO NOT BANKRUPT OUR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE YOU CANNOT MEET THE ISSUES AT HAND FOR YOUR CITY AND THE MONEY THAT YOU NEED.

BY THE WAY, I'M ALSO WITH DISTRICT 2.

THERE ARE 1,500, JANUARY 6, PEOPLE THAT WERE PARDONED BY THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, AND THEY NEED A PLACE TO WORK.

THEY'RE HOLDING THEIR LITTLE LYNCHES AND THEIR CONFEDERATE FLAGS ALL OVER THAT CAPITOL BUILDING.

THEY NEED A PLACE TO WORK.

THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY WITH ICE, THEY CAN EVEN PASS AN OPEN BOOK TEST ON IMMIGRATION LAW, LEGAL LAW, AND THEY'RE WEARING MASKS 'CAUSE THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THEY WERE THERE ON JANUARY 6, OR PERHAPS WHEREVER THE HECK ELSE? THEY'RE WEARING MASK. THEY KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES OF IMMIGRATION LAW.

THEY'RE ACTING AS JUDGE, JURY, AND EXECUTIONER.

SHAME ON OUR MAYOR WHO CAN EVEN SHOW HIS FACE HERE, WANTS TO PICK ISSUES THAT HE CALLS YOU ALL HERE TO DO, AND WANTS TO CHERRY PICK THESE LITTLE THINGS TO SPEAK UP SO HE CAN JOIN A CLUB AND KNOWS NEXT TO NOTHING THAT IS HAPPENING ON OUR VERY STREETS.

SHAME ON ANYONE ELSE THAT DID NOT IMMEDIATELY SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS, ESPECIALLY YOU, COUNCILMAN MORENO, WHO DID NOT DIRECTLY SPEAK AGAINST THIS GRANT AND LAW, BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE NEED IS TO SELL OUT OUR OWN COMMUNITIES, MY NEIGHBORS, AND MY OWN APARTMENT BUILDING FILLED WITH IMMIGRANTS THAT FUEL THIS CITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ERICA VARGAS ESTRADA.

>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS, COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

AMERICA ESTRADA FOUNDER AND DIRECTOR OF BELLA GARDENS, A PRESCHOOL IN EAST DALLAS.

I'M ALSO AN EARLY CHILDHOOD ADVOCATE AND MOTHER TOO.

I WORK WITH FAMILIES AND CAREGIVERS WHO DEPEND ON THIS CITY TO BE A PLACE OF SAFETY AND BELONGING.

TODAY'S DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 287(G) PROGRAM ISN'T JUST ABOUT MONEY, IT'S ABOUT DALLAS' VALUES AND PRIORITIES.

THE MAYOR STATED THAT PARTICIPATION IN ICE'S MODEL COULD PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL BENEFITS.

BUT WHAT GOOD ARE FINANCIAL BENEFITS IF THEY COME AT THE COST OF TRUST, SAFETY, AND THE HUMANITY OF OUR CITIZENS? I SUPPORT CHIEF COMO'S DECISION NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM AND AGREE THAT WE SHOULD KEEP IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT OUT OF LOCAL POLICING.

ICE'S AGGRESSIVE TACTICS HAVE COME UNDER INTENSE SCRUTINY.

ICE'S METHODS HAVE BEEN BARBARIC AND INCONSISTENT, INSTIGATING DISORDER AND IGNORANCE.

COLLABORATING WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT LACK CLEAR UNIFORMITY, PROFESSIONALISM AND HUMANITY WOULD ONLY ADD DISTRUST AMONG DALLAS CITIZENS.

IN DISD, NEARLY 70% OF STUDENTS ARE LATINO, CHILDREN GROWING UP IN HOMES WHERE FEAR AND SEPARATION AND INSTABILITY IS ALREADY A PART OF DAILY LIFE.

CHOOSING TO PARTNER WITH ICE WOULD DEEPEN THIS TRAUMA.

RESEARCH ON ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES OR ACE SHOWS THAT EXPOSURE TO FEAR, FAMILY DISRUPTION, AND DISCRIMINATION HAS LASTING EFFECTS ON BRAIN DEVELOPMENT, LEARNING AND HEALTH.

THESE ARE CHILDREN WHO WILL ONE DAY LEAD OUR CITY, RUN OUR MEDICAL OFFICES AND TEACH IN OUR CLASSROOMS. THE WELLBEING TODAY IS DALLAS' FUTURE, AND WE CAN'T EXPECT OUR CHILDREN TO THRIVE IF THEIR EARLIEST MEMORIES OF SAFETY ARE TIED TO FEAR.

I URGE THE COUNCIL TO STAY THE COURSE OF TRUST, NOT FEAR.

EVEN AS THE DEBATE DRAWS DALLAS INTO THE CENTER OF A NATIONAL ISSUE, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY AND COMPASSION.

I ASK YOU TO REJECT THE AGREEMENT AND INVEST IN THINGS STRENGTHENING THE COMMUNITY'S RELATIONSHIP.

>> THANK YOU. OSCAR SENTINA.

>> MY NAME IS OSCAR SENTINA.

I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 4.

I'M HERE TO STRONGLY OPPOSE THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ENTERING INTO A 287(G) AGREEMENT WITH ICE.

THIS PROGRAM WILL NOT MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER, IT WILL INSTEAD WEAPONIZE IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AGAINST THE VERY PEOPLE WHO HELP OUR CITY THRIVE.

SUCH A PARTNERSHIP WOULD CREATE FEAR AND DEEPEN MISTRUST BETWEEN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IN TODAY'S POLARIZED CLIMATE, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS LOCAL LEADERS TO PROTECT THE WELLBEING OF ALL RESIDENTS.

EVERYONE DESERVES TO LIVE A DIGNIFIED LIFE FREE FROM THE FEAR OF THOSE WHO ARE SWORN TO SERVE AND PROTECT.

A 287(G) AGREEMENT WOULD ERODE PUBLIC TRUST, DISCOURAGE VICTIMS AND WITNESSES FROM REPORTING CRIMES FOR FEAR OF DEPORTATION OR HARASSMENT AND MAKE EVERYONE LESS SAFE.

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ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE'VE SEEN HOW INCREASED IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGETS BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES, INCLUDING LAWFUL RESIDENTS AND US CITIZENS.

WE WILL NOT ACCEPT THE BLATANT LIE THAT THEY ONLY ARE TARGETING THE WORST OF THE WORST.

THAT ARGUMENT THAT NO CRIMINAL RECORDS KEEP YOU SAFE IS ILLEGITIMATE.

WE'VE SEEN THAT. THE VICTIM WHO SADLY GOT DECAPITATED, AS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WAS AN IMMIGRANT TOO.

WHAT IF THEY CAN'T CALL FOR HELP? WHAT WILL THAT DO TO OUR SAFETY? IT EFFECTIVELY ENABLES RACIAL PROFILING AND REINFORCES RACIAL BIAS, AND DIVERTS RESOURCES FROM REAL PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITIES.

WE ALL WANT A SAFER DALLAS, AND THAT BEGINS WITH PRIORITIZING OUR COMMUNITIES AND KEEPING FAMILIES TOGETHER OVER A CHECK FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN DALLAS.

I WAS EDUCATED IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND EARNED A DEGREE FROM SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY.

I WORK AS AN ENGINEER FOCUSING ON CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THE CITY HAS THRIVED, ENLARGED BY THE STRIDES OF IMMIGRANTS AND THEIR CHILDREN.

EVERY RESIDENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK, ATTEND SCHOOL, AND LIVE WITHOUT FEAR OF DEPORTATION OR HARASSMENT.

I URGE YOU TO PRIORITIZE COMMUNITY, SAFETY, AND TRUST, AND DEMAND YOU TO NOT ENTER INTO 287(G) AGREEMENT.

THE POLICE SHOULD PROTECT AND SERVE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. VICTORIA LEATO.

>> HELLO. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS VICTORIA LEATO.

I'M A RESIDENT AT 6028 SPRINGLAND DRIVE.

I'M A PROUD RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 3 AND I RUN BUSINESS IN DISTRICT 1 HERE IN DALLAS.

HAVING GROWN UP IN EL PASO, CROSSING THE BORDER USED TO BE A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE, NOSTALGIC, PEACEFUL AND A REFLECTION OF THE DEEP CULTURAL CONNECTION SHARED BY BOTH SIDES.

IN 2016, I WITNESSED A COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S RACIALLY CHARGED RHETORIC BEGAN TO DEHUMANIZE IMMIGRANTS AND BORDER COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE.

I REMEMBER WHEN MEN WERE SENT FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO SUPERVISE THE BORDER BECAUSE OUR CITY HAD GIVEN THEM AN AUTHORITATIVE FOOTHOLD.

MANY OF THEM CAME NOT TO PROTECT, BUT TO INTIMIDATE, ABUSING THEIR AUTHORITY WITHIN THE BORDER PATROL SYSTEM, TO HARASS, PATRONIZE AND DEHUMANIZE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE SIMPLY CROSSING FOR FAMILY, WORK OR DAILY LIFE.

YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHY I'M EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE BORDER WHEN I'M HERE IN DALLAS.

I SHARE THIS BECAUSE I SEE THE SAME PATTERNS NOW BEING A DALLAS TRANSPLANT FOR 10 YEARS.

I SEE THE RHETORIC EMERGING AGAIN.

WE CANNOT SUPPORT 287(G) GIVING WAY AN AUTHORITATIVE FOOTHOLD TO REIGN FREELY IN OUR CITY WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY, AND TARGET THE SAME VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES BEING TARGETED.

SINCE RELOCATING IN 2017, I'VE LIVED IN DISTRICT 3 AND I OPERATE MY BUSINESS IN DISTRICT 1.

BOTH AREAS DEEPLY INFLUENCED AND ENRICHED BY IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES OF COLOR.

IF WE ALLOW THE SAME DIVISIVE LANGUAGE AND UNCHECKED AUTHORITY TO TAKE HOLD HERE, THE RISK SHATTERING THAT PEACE THAT OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE FOUGHT SO HARD TO BUILD, WHAT I WITNESSED IN EL PASO COULD EASILY REPEAT ITSELF IN DALLAS.

NOT A BORDER CROSSING, BUT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SCHOOLS, AND OUR LOCAL INSTITUTIONS, 25 MILLION IS NOT WORTH OUR HUMANITY.

THE PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO MAKE UP THE HEART OF OUR DISTRICTS ARE COUNTING ON YOU TO UPHOLD THE PEACE OF MIND, DIGNITY, AND SAFETY.

WE CANNOT AFFORD TO LET HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF UNDER THE GUISE OF ORDER AND SECURITY.

>> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.

RAMIRO LUNA HINOJOSA.

I COME TO YOU SPEAKING BEFORE YOU AS AN IMMIGRANT.

I SPEAK BEFORE YOU AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SOMOS TEJAS, AND I SPEAK BEFORE YOU TO URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST 287(G).

NO ENFORCING PEACE OFFICERS TO ACT AS ICE AGENTS.

THESE ARE MASKED MEN, THUGS, DRESSED IN UNIFORMS OF BRUTALITY FOLLOWING THE ORDERS OF A FEAR MONGERING TYRANT.

DPD ALREADY HAS MULTI BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET, WHY ARE WE SCRAPPING FOR $25 MILLION TO SELL THE SOUL OF OUR CITY? THE MAYOR ASKED FOR COMMUNITY INPUT, AND I ASK YOU NOW TO LOOK BEHIND ME, THIS IS THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS THEIR INPUT.

WE HAVE SPOKEN.

THE SAME MAYOR IS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, HE WAS TOO AFRAID TO SHOW UP TO DIFFERENT EVENTS.

THIS IS THE SAME MAYOR THAT IS PUTTING FEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE SAME COMMUNITY THAT WORKS VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE IN YOUR SEATS.

THEY'RE THE SAME COMMUNITY THAT FEEDS YOU.

THEY'RE THE SAME COMMUNITY THAT PUTS A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD, AND NOW YOU'RE GOING TO CRIMINALIZE THIS COMMUNITY.

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THIS IS A WORLD CLASS CITY.

HOW CAN THIS BE A WORLD CLASS CITY WHENEVER INSTEAD OF PROTECTING YOU'RE PERSECUTING? INSTEAD OF SERVING YOU'RE SEPARATING.

HOW CAN THIS BE A WORLD CLASS CITY WHENEVER YOU'RE CRIMINALIZING THE WORLD? I'M HERE TO ASK YOU, NOT ONLY TO VOTE AGAINST 287(G), BUT TO HOLD EVERY POLICE OFFICER AND ICE ENGINE ACCOUNTABLE THAT STEPS FOOT IN THIS CITY.

THIS IS A TIME TO BEHAVE WITH BRAVENESS.

WHENEVER WE'RE BEING ATTACKED, WE NEED LEADERS LIKE YOU TO BE BOLD AND STRONG FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR YOU. THANK YOU.

>. THANK YOU. LUCY BOCANEGRA.

>> HELLO, EVERYONE.

LUCY BOCANEGRA, AND I AM NOT REALLY FROM DALLAS, ORIGINALLY FROM CHICAGO.

WHEN I CAME TO DALLAS, THERE WAS A BIG DIFFERENCE, A LOT OF DISCRIMINATION, AND I DIDN'T WANT MY KIDS TO LIVE THROUGH THAT.

WE WERE THE FIRST MEXICAN FAMILY ON OUR BLOCK.

I HAD NEVER HEARD THE WORD WET BACK UNTIL I MOVED HERE TO DALLAS.

I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO GROW UP IN THAT ATMOSPHERE.

THE POLICE WORKING WITH ICE, THAT'S WHAT OUR KIDS ARE GOING TO EXPERIENCE.

SOMETHING THAT IS REPEATING ITSELF, HISTORY.

OUR MAYOR IS CUM LAUDE IN HISTORY WITH HIS EDUCATION AND ALL THAT, DOES HE NOT KNOW THE HISTORY CAN REPEAT ITSELF? AND WE SHOULD NOT BE OKAY WITH THAT, NO MATTER THE PRICE, $25 MILLION, LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT.

Y'ALL ARE SMART PEOPLE. LET'S DO THE MATH.

IF PEOPLE START SUING NOT THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE FREE TO RACIALLY PROFILE, BUT IF THEY START SUING THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND WE'VE HAD OUR HISTORY, DRUG SCANDALS, ALL KINDS OF STUFF, WE'VE LOST MONEY BEFORE, ARE WE WILLING TO LOSE MONEY JUST FOR 25 MILLION? THINK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I WILL BE ENCOURAGING EVERY PERSON THAT GETS DISCRIMINATED TO SUE, TO KEEP SUING, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON YOU ALL IF YOU ALL ARE OKAY JUST TO TAKE THIS $25 MILLION? WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE ALSO THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE RESPECTED AND SAFE AND WORKING WITH ICE, WE ALREADY SAW HOW THEY WERE TARGETED, ICE WAS TARGETED, LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT. SAFETY FIRST.

THIS IS YOUR FINAL GROUP OF CITY OF DALLAS REGISTER SPEAKERS.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST THREE ROWS OF THIS INTERSECTION.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I ASK THAT YOU HAVE YOUR VIDEO AND AUDIO PREPARED.

BILL SANDERSON, ROY LOPEZ, FELIX SALCEDO, JOHN PUTNAM, DIANE BENJAMIN, BENJAMIN BOYER, ANNA NUNEZ, MICHELLE BOND, NOSTO, SCOTT DILLA VAN WINKLE, MIRIAM SHARMA, RAMON MIJA, RICHARD BROWN JOHN, VERONICA ALVAREZ, RET HIKA, DANI, MARTHA HERNANDEZ, LUIS MATA, AND JACQUELYN LAW.

BILL SANDERSON, YOU MAY BEGIN.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME AND CAN YOU SEE ME?

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.

I'M BILL SANDERSON, I LIVE AT 8006 HUME DRIVE, DALLAS, AND IT'S IN THE PLEASANT GROVE AREA, DISTRICT FIVE.

I'M REPRESENTED BY THE HOME GROWN SUCCESS STORY OF AMY RESENDIZ.

I'M A THIRD GENERATION RESIDENT HERE IN SOUTHEAST DALLAS IN PLEASANT GROVE, AND NOWADAYS, I'M A MINORITY IN MY COMMUNITY.

MY NEIGHBORS ARE HISPANIC, THEY'RE MOSTLY IMMIGRANTS FROM MEXICO.

BUT IN MY TENURE AS A TEACHER, AS ESL, I LEARNED SOME FASCINATING IDEAS ABOUT COMMUNITY SAFETY AND BEING IN MY IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, I WENT TO A BARBECUE AND THE POLICE OFFERED A POWERPOINT IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH.

THIS WAS IN 2017.

THIS WAS A RESPONSE, THE GREAT DALLAS POLICE RESPONSE TO THE 2016 INCURSION,

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I CALL IT, OF DONALD TRUMP AND THE REMAINING MEXICO PLAN, WHICH AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, SEPARATED FAMILIES FROM THE CHILDREN.

THE POLICE RESPONSE THEN WAS THEY SHARED THE MESSAGE THAT THEIR WORK WAS ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FOR ALL OF US, THAT IMMIGRATION STATUS WAS NOT THEIR JOB.

THE BIGGEST POINT THEY DID WAS THEY BUILT TRUST.

THEY SAID THAT PUBLIC SAFETY DEPENDED ON THE EYES AND EARS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO REPORT CRIMES, THAT THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH PATROL OFFICERS TO SEE ALL THE PROBLEMS. THEY TOLD THAT TO EFFECTIVELY BRING CRIME DOWN, THEY MUST HAVE FOLKS WHO WILL CALL IN REPORT WHAT THEY SEE.

OFFICERS ASSURED US THEN AT THE BARBECUE THEY HAD NO INTEREST IN THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THOSE [OVERLAPPING].

>> ROY LOPEZ, PROUD DISTRICT 13 RESIDENT.

>> ROY LOPEZ.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT I CALL THE RAPTURE OF IMMIGRANTS WHEN PEOPLE HAVE BUILT THEIR LIVES HERE, SUDDENLY TAKEN FROM THEIR FAMILIES.

MY FAMILY HAS. LAST WEEK, OUR DEAR FRIEND AND NANNY CLAUDIA WAS TAKEN INTO ICE CUSTODY, NOT IN A RAID, NOT IN A CRIME, BUT DURING A SCHEDULED ATTORNEY LED MEETING MEANT TO FINALIZE HER LEGAL RESIDENCY.

SHE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT YET SHE WAS HANDCUFFED, DETAINED, WITHOUT WARNING.

NINE DAYS HAVE PASSED, AND SHE STILL HASN'T RECEIVED ANY SEMBLANCE OF DUE PROCESS.

CLAUDIA IS BEING HELD IN A DETENTION FACILITY IN ALVARADO, TEXAS, SEPARATED FROM MY CHILDREN WHO ADORE HER, FROM THE COMMUNITY SHE SERVED, AND FROM THE LIFE SHE HAS BUILT FOR 25 YEARS.

SHE HAS PAID TAXES, WORKED HARD, EARNED A DISD DIPLOMA, AND CARED FOR DALLAS FAMILIES.

SHE SPEAKS PERFECT ENGLISH, HAS A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, NO CRIMINAL RECORD, POSSESSES NO THREAT TO ANYONE.

CLAUDIA HAS VOLUNTEERED FOR THE HOMELESS AND MADE MEANINGFUL CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS CITY.

SHE IS PART OF THE AMERICAN FABRIC, SHE KNOWS NO OTHER HOME.

YET BECAUSE OF A SYSTEM THAT VALUES DEPORTATION QUOTAS OVER FAIRNESS, SHE IS TREATED LIKE A DISPOSABLE VICTIM.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN BUREAUCRACY REPLACES JUSTICE, WHEN DUE PROCESS BECOMES OPTIONAL.

NOW THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CONSIDERING ACCEPTING $25 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDS FROM ICE AT A TIME WHEN OUR COMMUNITIES ARE CALLED FOR COMPASSION, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND REFORM, OUR CITY IS CONTEMPLATING FEAR OVER PRINCIPLE, FUNDING OVER FAIRNESS.

THIS IS NOT WHO WE ARE.

THIS IS NOT THE DALLAS I BELIEVE IN OR THE ONE MY CHILDREN BELIEVE IN, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY SO BAD FOR BUSINESS.

IF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ACCEPTS ICE FUNDING, IT WON'T BE A PARTNERSHIP, IT WILL BE A MORAL AND LEGAL LIABILITY.

THE COST OF HUMANITY FAR OUTWEIGHS THE $25 MILLION PAYOUT.

THIS IS BLOOD MONEY AND HAS NO PLACE ON THE DALLAS BADGE.

>> THANK YOU. FELIX SALCEDO.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS FELIX SALCEDO.

I'M IN DISTRICT 9.

I SERVE AS A PRESIDENT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I'M A CHAIRPERSON OF A LOCAL TRAILS ADVOCACY GROUP.

I SAY THAT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT I'M A REASONABLE INDIVIDUAL AND I'M A SERIOUS PERSON.

I HAVE WATCHED FOR THE LAST TEN MONTHS AS AN AUTHORITARIAN AND CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATION HAS UNLEASHED ITS PRIVATE ARMY OF ICE AGENTS TO ROUND UP CRIMINALS.

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND DEPORTED WITHOUT DUE PROCESS AND IN THE CRUDEST WAY POSSIBLE.

WOMEN THROWN TO THE GROUND AND CHILDREN TERRORIZED.

AMERICAN CITIZENS AND EVEN ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN CAUGHT UP IN THEIR FRENZY AND ARRESTED AND DETAINED, ALL COMPLETELY LAWLESS.

I RECOGNIZE THIS FOR WHAT IT IS.

I WONDERED WHEN THE SLOW UNDERMINING OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND ESTABLISHMENT OF AN AUTHORITARIAN STATE WOULD FINALLY HIT DALLAS. WELL, HERE WE ARE.

AND THE OPPORTUNITIES EVEN SWEETENED WITH AN OFFER OF $25 MILLION.

WE HAVE SEEN THE SAME PLAYBOOK USED BY EVERY FASCIST OR A COMMUNIST DICTATOR WHO CAME TO POWER.

WARRANTLESS ARREST, PHYSICAL INTIMIDATION.

CITIZENS ARBITRARILY ASKED TO SHOW THEIR PAPERS, THE PRESS CO-OPTED, POLITICAL OPPONENTS PROSECUTED, FREE ELECTIONS AND VOTING RIGHTS THREATENED, EVENTUALLY THE LOSS OF A DEMOCRACY, AND DON'T THINK THAT IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

DALLAS POLICE OPERATING AS ICE AGENTS, HOW LONG BEFORE THE ROT SPREADS? I AS A CITIZEN WOULD WANT OUR DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS TO DEFEND US FROM THESE GOONS, NOT JOIN THEM.

A VOTE NO IS A VOTE YES FOR DEMOCRACY. THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU. JOHN PUTNAM.

>> HI. MY NAME IS JOHN PUTNAM, SPEAKING ON MY OWN BEHALF AND THE VALUES OF EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, MULTICULTURALISM, AND DUE PROCESS THAT I WAS SOUGHT AS A DALLAS NATIVE FROM LAKE HIGHLANDS DISTRICT 10.

THESE VALUES ARE WHY I RIGHTLY BELIEVE OUR POLICE CHIEF REJECTED THE $25 MILLION OFFER TO JOIN THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

HOWEVER, THESE ARE VALUES OUR CITY HAS TO LEARN.

IN 100 YEARS SINCE 160,000 PEOPLE ATTENDED THE CLAN DAY AT THE STATE FAIR IN OUR OWN FAIR PARK, WE HAVE BECOME A DESEGREGATED MULTICULTURAL CITY, HOME TO NATIVE SPEAKERS OF ENGLISH, SPANISH, HEBREW, ARABIC, DINKA, IGBO, MANDARIN HINDI, AND MORE.

THE SUPREME COURT RECENTLY RULED THAT ICE AGENTS COULD USE RACE AS A RELEVANT FACTOR, TO QUESTION PEOPLE ABOUT IMMIGRATION STATUS WHEN COMBINED WITH ACTIONS LIKE SPEAKING SPANISH OR SPEAKING ENGLISH WITH AN ACCENT.

ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF DALLAS OWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEBSITE, OVER ONE THIRD OF DALLAS SITE SPEAK SPANISH AS THEIR FIRST LANGUAGE.

FOR MONTHS, I'VE SEEN MASS ICE AGENTS ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS BRUTALLY DETAIN AND DISAPPEAR GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE COMMITTED NO CRIME AS BEING UNDOCUMENTED AS A CIVIL OFFENSE.

OFTENTIMES WHEN APPEARING FOR IMMIGRATION STATUS COURT HEARINGS, ALL DENYING CONCERNED ONLOOKERS BASIC INFORMATION LIKE THEIR NAME, AGENCY, AND BADGE NUMBER.

WHERE EACH PERSON IS SENT, PRISONS, WORK CAMPS, OR HOSTILE NATIONS, NOBODY KNOWS.

THIS RACISM AND INHUMANE TREATMENT OF MY FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS IS AGAINST DALLAS VALUES AND SOMETHING THAT I DO NOT WISH TO INVITE INTO OUR GREAT CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. DIANE BENJAMIN.

>> GOOD MORNING. GOOD AFTERNOON.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.

I HAVE THIS WONDERFUL SPEECH HERE, BUT I'M LISTENING TO EVERYBODY HERE TALK ABOUT CHILDREN, TALK ABOUT IMMIGRATION, WHAT ABOUT RULE OF LAW? WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED WITH LAWS? WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WORRYING ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, WHAT ABOUT TEACHING THEM ETHICS? WHAT ABOUT TEACHING THEM TO HONOR THE LAWS OF THIS LAND? I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY WE'RE EVEN HERE DISCUSSING THIS WHEN WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT ABIDING BY THE LAW, TEACHING OUR CHILDREN TO ABIDE BY THE LAWS OF OUR LAND.

THIS CITY IS LADEN WITH CRIME, IT'S PERVASIVE, AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR FEDERAL LAWS OF IMMIGRATION AND PROTECTION.

WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNERSHIP.

CITY OF DALLAS IS LADEN WITH CRIME, I SERVED WITH THE DIFFERENT CHIEFS OF POLICE, I KNOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE DIFFERENT CHIEFS OF POLICE THAT WE'VE HAD WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY GRATEFUL TO THIS WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP WITH ICE.

I WAS GOING TO WEAR THIS SHIRT THIS MORNING, THIS ICE SHIRT, BUT I WAS AFRAID THAT PERHAPS I'D BE SHOT AT.

MY SON GAVE ME THE SHIRT.

HE SAID, MOM, IF YOU GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM OF A HOSPITAL, WEAR THE ICE SHIRT, AND YOU'LL FIND THAT THE ROOM WILL IMMEDIATELY VACATE, AND YOU'LL BE FIRST IN LINE.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE, THIS IS A SAD COMMENTARY ON OUR CITY.

>> THIS IS YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

BENJAMIN BOYER.

>> DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND STOP THIS HATRED OF TRUMP.

>> BENJAMIN BOYER. BENJAMIN BOYER IS NOT PRESENT. ANNA NUNEZ.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ANITA NUNEZ.

I'M THE DALLAS POLICY COORDINATOR WITH WORKERS DEFENSE ACTION FUND, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ONE OF OUR MEMBERS WHO WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE, SO THIS MESSAGE IS FROM HER.

MY NAME IS MARGARITA ALVAREZ, A MEMBER OF WORKERS DEFENSE ACTION FUND.

I'M SENDING THIS MESSAGE BECAUSE I CAN'T BE HERE IN PERSON BUT AS A MEMBER OF THE LATINA AND IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE LEADERSHIP OF SOME OF THIS COUNCIL.

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I'VE LIVED IN GARLAND FOR 36 YEARS.

WHEN I ARRIVED IN THE '90S, THE ECONOMY WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS DEVELOPED THAN IT IS TODAY.

IT IS THE HARD WORK OF LATINA IMMIGRANTS THAT HAS BUILT UP THE PROSPERITY OF GARLAND AND ALL OF DALLAS.

WE COME TO THIS COUNTRY TO WORK AND BUILD BETTER LIVES FOR OURSELVES, AND WE BUILD A BETTER SOCIETY FOR ALL, AND WE TAKE PRIDE IN THAT.

WE URGE YOU TO REMEMBER THOSE WHO HAVE HELPED ELECT YOU, WHO HAD HOPE IN YOU.

WE URGE YOU SOME OF YOU TO STOP PUSHING FOR POLICIES THAT SEPARATE FAMILIES AND CAUSE FURTHER DIVISION AMONG OUR COMMUNITY.

WE SAY NO TO 287(G) AGREEMENTS AND NO TO FEAR AND DISCRIMINATION. THANKS SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MICHELLE BOND.

>> GOOD MORNING. I'M MICHELLE BOND AND, I'M FROM DISTRICT 11.

EVERY DAY, OUR OFFICERS IN DALLAS ARE PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE, AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM.

THEY RESPOND TO VIOLENT CRIMES TO PROTECT US.

THEY ARE STRETCHED TO THE LIMIT.

VIOLENT CRIME IS UP AND STAFFING IS DOWN.

OFFICERS CAN'T GET IT ALL DONE.

SUPPORT FROM ICE SHOULD BE NOT TURNED DOWN FOR POLITICAL REASONS.

PLUS IS VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW.

LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ABOUT LAW AND ORDER, NOT POLITICS.

COORDINATION BETWEEN AGENCIES IS STANDARD PRACTICE AND DALLAS SHOULD NOT REFUSE TO DO IT.

FOR A SAFER CITY, WE MUST USE EVERY RESOURCE THAT WE CAN.

IT'S TIME FOR LEADERSHIP TO PUT PUBLIC SAFETY AHEAD OF POLITICS.

I HAVE LIVED ON THE WEST COAST AND HAVE WITNESSED FIRSTHAND, IN BOTH SEATTLE AND PORTLAND HOW DEVASTATING IT IS TO A COMMUNITY WHEN THEY PUT POLITICS BEFORE PUBLIC SAFETY, NOT WHAT THE MEDIA WANTS TO PORTRAY, BUT WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY I MOVED HERE TO GET AWAY FROM ALL THAT AND BE ABLE TO LIVE IN A SAFER COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, NORA SOTO.

>> THAT'S SO FUNNY. MY NAME IS NORA SOTO.

[LAUGHTER] I LIVE IN DISTRICT 4. I'M A HOMEOWNER.

>> HOLD ON FOR A MOMENT, PLEASE.

WE'VE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES. I'VE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES, MR. CHAIR, FOR EVERYONE TO BE RESPECTFUL TO EVERYONE'S OPINION.

EVERYONE HAS THEIR RIGHT TO VOICE HOW THEY FEEL, AND I'M ASKING EVERYONE TO PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL TO EVERYBODY. THANK YOU.

>> LIKE I WAS SAYING, MY NAME IS NORA SOTO AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT 4.

I'M A HOMEOWNER, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST 287G, OF COURSE, AS WELL AS AGAINST COLLABORATION OF DPD WITH ICE.

THERE'S NOTHING REALLY MORE THAT I CAN SAY EXCEPT THAT I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER FOR DISTRICT 12 FOR ALWAYS BEING SO HONEST AND SAYING THE QUIET PART LOUD ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE HOMELESS MINORITIES AND THE POOR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. THEN I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ACTUALLY DID STEP UP AND PUT OUT A STATEMENT AGAINST 287G.

TO THOSE WHO DIDN'T, ESPECIALLY THE BROWN ONES, WE'RE GOING TO REMEMBER THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON YOU AS WE USUALLY DO, AND I USUALLY DO.

I WAS RAISED BY A SINGLE MOTHER AND IMMIGRANT WHO CAME HERE THE WRONG WAY.

I GREW UP UNDER THE CONSTANT FEAR AND SHAME, KNOWING THAT AT ANY MOMENT, MY FAMILY COULD BE TAKEN AWAY FROM ME, THAT I COULD END UP ALONE, THAT I COULD END UP WITHOUT SHELTER, WITHOUT SECURITY.

THINGS WEREN'T EVEN THAT BAD BACK THEN.

I WANT TO ALSO CALL OUT THE HYPOCRISY OF THE DALLAS POLICE CHIEF WHO WEEKS AGO, I CALLED OUT TO HIS FACE, TO LET HIM KNOW THAT WE KNEW THAT THEY WERE ALREADY COLLABORATING WITH ICE, AND HE WAS LYING TO EVERYBODY.

HE'S LYING NOW. I ALSO WANT TO CALL OUT THE HYPOCRISY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE COUNCIL WHO STAND AGAINST 287G, BUT, HAVE DONE NOTHING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING HELD ILLEGALLY, IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW LAWS, AT THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE, IT IS NOT A DETENTION CENTER.

IT IS AN OFFICE BUILDING.

IT DOESN'T HAVE THE FACILITIES TO HOUSE PEOPLE THERE OVERNIGHT, LET ALONE FOR [INAUDIBLE].

MY NAME IS SCOTT DILLA VAN WINKLE.

SCOTT DILLA VAN WINKLE.

>> HELLO. GOOD MORNING.

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BUNDLE MY NAME FOR YOU.

MY ROOTS THROUGH MY MOTHER COME FROM CHIHUA MICO, AND I'M PROUD TO SAY TO CALL CLIFF DISTRICT 3, MY HOME.

A NEIGHBORHOOD BUILT ON RESILIENCE CULTURE AND COMMUNITY.

ON THE PAST YEAR, DALLAS INVESTED NEARLY $20 MILLION IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

PROGRAMS THAT BUILD TRUST, SAFETY, AND UNITY BETWEEN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE PEOPLE WE SERVE.

BUT 287G, A PROGRAM THAT WOULD ALLOW LOCAL POLICE TO ACT AS AGENTS.

TRYING TO ERASE ALL OF THAT PROGRESS, IT WOULD TAKE US BACKWARDS, REPLACING TRUSTS WITH FEAR, COOPERATION WITH SILENCE, AND BELONGING WITH DISCRIMINATION.

287G WOULD MAKE PEOPLE AFRAID TO ATTEND PUBLIC HEARINGS TO ANSWER ON DOOR KNOCKS, OR EVEN WALK DOWN THE STREETS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN OR THE LANGUAGE THEY SPEAK.

PARENTS FEAR CALLING TO HELP VICTIMS WOULD STAY QUIET.

OUR FAMILIES WOULD RETREAT INTO SHADOWS.

I ASK YOU WHY DO THE SIR COMMITTEE TO OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR FRIENDS, AND OUR FAMILY.

IN TIME WE NEED EACH OTHER IN SOLIDARITY THE MOST. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. MIRIAM SHARMA.

>> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

GLAD THAT WE'RE ALL GATHERED HERE TOGETHER.

MY NAME IS MIRIAM SHARMA.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT 9.

I'M A MOTHER, AND I'M A NURSE, AND I WANT TO THANK OUR POLICE CHIEF COMO, FOR MAKING THE DECISION, TO NOT PARTNER WITH ICE AT THIS TIME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS THAT THE DALLAS POLICE, HAVE BEEN DOING WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SUCH TO BRIDGE THIS GAP.

I DO A LOT OF WORK WITH GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION WORK, AND TALKING TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED MORE TO CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER AND KNOW THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AND TO KNOW THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS IMPORTANT.

I'M GLAD TO SEE ALL OF YOU LISTENING AND BEING PRESENT AND SO MANY PEOPLE GATHERED HERE TODAY.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S A REALLY A GOOD SIGN.

ON THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE, WE CAN READ THAT THEY ARE DEDICATED TO SERVING THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS AND STRIVE TO REDUCE CRIME AND PROVIDE A SAFE CITY.

WHEN I WAS CONTEMPLATING COMING DOWN HERE, I WAS THINKING, DOES IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT OF NON-VIOLENT, NON-DANGEROUS, NON-THREATENING PERSONS, WORK TO HELP MAKE OUR CITY SAFER, AND MY ANSWER WOULD BE NO.

THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

I DO HAVE SOME FRIENDS THAT WERE SCARED TO COME TO SPEAK TODAY.

I'M ALSO COMING ON BEHALF OF THEM AND JUST SHARING AS A PERSPECTIVE AS A NURSE.

IF SOMEONE'S INVOLVED IN AN ALTERCATION, LET'S SAY THEY'RE A YOUNG PERSON, THEY'RE A CITIZEN, BUT THEIR PARENTS ARE UNDOCUMENTED.

THEY WILL BE LESS LIKELY TO SEEK CARE.

AS A NURSE, WE JUST ALWAYS WANT TO AMPLIFY, MAKING SURE EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO HIGH QUALITY HEALTH CARE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

WE KNOW TIME IS TISSUE.

WE KNOW THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN THESE CRITICAL SITUATIONS.

JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. RAMON MAHIA.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS RAMON MAHIA, DISTRICT 1.

I'M A MEMBER OF A BAR FACE, A COMMUNITY OF POST 911 SERVICE MEMBERS AND VETERANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WORKING TO END A FOREIGN POLICY A PERMANENT WAR, AND THE MILITARIZATION OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

I RECENTLY READ OF AN ICE APPLICANT AT A DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY JOB FAIR.

HE HAD HOPED TO FIGHT IN AMERICA'S WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.

JOINED THE ARMY HOPING TO FULFILL HIS DESIRE FOR BLOOD.

HE NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO FIGHT.

HE SAID, I LEARNED ALL THESE SKILLS IN THE ARMY, SMASH AND GRABS, SIGHT EXPLOITATION, AND I NEVER GOT TO USE THEM.

HERE I AM TO DO WHAT I LEARNED TO DO OVER THERE HERE.

IN A WORLD WHERE THE US CONTINUES TO WAGE A GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR, MIGRANT FAMILIES ARE NOW VIEWED AS INSURGENTS.

OUR COMMUNITIES ARE NOW THE NEW BATTLE SPACE THIS ADMINISTRATION SEEKS TO DOMINATE.

DICK CHENEY DIED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

GOOD WRITTENS. I SAY GOOD WRITTENS.

AN ARCHITECT OF THE WAR ON TERROR WHICH KILLED OVER 1 MILLION PEOPLE IN IRAQ, 5 MILLION ACROSS THE WORLD AND CREATED OVER 38 MILLION REFUGEES.

THE ROOTS OF THE CRUELTY, THE BRUTALITY WE'RE SEEING AGAINST MIGRANTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES IN OUR CITIES, A CAUSE A COUNTRY, ARE DIRECTLY TIED TO THIS LEGACY.

WE ARE WATCHING THIS ADMINISTRATION RUTHLESSLY ATTACK OUR PEOPLE, AND WE WILL NOT STAND BY.

IMAGINE WANTING TO STOP MIGRATION WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE ROOT CAUSES,

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FORCING PEOPLE TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES.

IF YOU ARE A VETERAN, I ASK YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

I CALL ON YOU TO JOIN FELLOW VETS THIS VETERANS DAY TO JOIN VETERANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND COMMUNITIES TO SAY LOUD AND CLEAR, VETS SAY NO.

VETS SAY NO TO ICE, NO TO TROOPS ON THE STREET OCCUPATION.

REJECT 287(G).

I SEND MY SOLIDARITY TO YACOUB, A BELOVED COMMUNITY MEMBER WRONGFULLY DETAINED BY ICE, TARGETED FOR HIS POLITICAL.

>> GOOD MORNING. I'M RICHARD BROWN JOHN.

RICHARD BROWN JOHN.

I LIVE IN EAST DALLAS AND DISTRICT 14.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO TALK TO YOU.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY AND THE IMPACT THAT IT WILL HAVE IF WE HAVE OUR POLICE FORCE ACTING AS IMMIGRATION OFFICERS.

I BELIEVE WE DON'T FOR SURE NEED ICE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

FOR THE LAST 20 ODD YEARS, COUNTIES HAVE ADOPTED 287G, HAVE BEEN LINKED TO CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS AND RACIAL PROFILING.

287G HAS NEVER MADE COMMUNITIES SAFER.

IT HAS ONLY MAKES THEM MORE DANGEROUS.

I HAVE LIVED HERE IN DALLAS FOR 35 YEARS AND NEVER EXPERIENCED A TIME WHEN FAMILIES HAD TO WORRY ABOUT LOVED ONES NOT COMING HOME, BECAUSE OF AN INTERACTION WITH ICE IT'S SHAMEFUL.

IF 287G IS IMPLEMENTED, WE WILL STILL HAVE THE SAME ISSUES THAT OCCURRED IN PORTLAND, CHICAGO, AND LA.

ICE HAS NO PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

PLEASE VOTE AGAINST 267G, AND VOTE, TO PRESERVE OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES FOR ALL THAT LIVE IN DALLAS COUNTY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. VERONICA ALVAREZ.

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS VERONICA ALVAREZ, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF WORKERS DEFENSE ACTION FUND, A LOCAL C4 ORGANIZATION.

I'M ALSO A CONCERNED COMMUNITY MEMBER AND HERE TO CONDEMN THE POSSIBILITY OF A 287G AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ICE.

THERE IS ALREADY A NEVER PRESENT SENSE OF FEAR WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES GIVEN OUR CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATES AND ENACTING SUCH AN AGREEMENT WOULD ONLY FURTHER ERODE WHATEVER TRUST IS STILL LEFT BETWEEN CITY RESIDENTS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, INCLUDING MYSELF.

I CAME TO YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO, REQUESTING A CLEAR ANSWER FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF.

ON WHETHER THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME TO PASS OR NOT AND WAS MET WITH VAGUE AND UNCLEAR ANSWERS.

I'M HERE ONCE MORE TO REPEAT MY CONCERNS AND TO ADVOCATE FOR THE DIGNITY AND RESPECT OF EVERY DALLAS RESIDENT REGARDLESS OF LEGAL STATUS, SKIN COLOR, OR SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUND.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO SAY.

ALL OF MY CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ECHOED IN THIS ROOM, AND I'M TIRED OF REPEATING MYSELF.

>> THANK YOU. RADHIKA DANI?

>> YES. ESTEEMED, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS RADHIKA DANI.

>> I'M SORRY, MS. DANI.

>> MAY I SPEAK?

>> ONE SECOND. WE NEED TO BRING OVER YOUR VIDEO.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ESTEEMED COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DR. RADHIKA DANI.

I'M A PSYCHIATRIST, AND DALLAS IS MY HOME.

I'D LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO A CRITICAL ASPECT OF THIS ISSUE, WHICH IS THE IMPACT OF THE 287G PROGRAM ON THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR.

POLICE OFFICERS RISK THEIR PHYSICAL SAFETY EVERY DAY, TO PROTECT AND SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

BEING PROTECTIVE IS PART OF THEIR IDENTITY, IT'S A NOBLE JOB.

IF OUR OFFICERS ARE MANDATED TO ASSIST ICE, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO TAKE PEOPLE IN SERVING ELDERLY, TEENAGERS OR PARENTS AND LEAVING CHILDREN, AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES AND PUT THEM INTO COMMUNITY.

OFFICERS WILL BE FORCED TO ACT AS PERPETRATORS INSTEAD OF PROTECTORS.

THIS IS A GRAVE MORAL ASSAULT, INFLICT WHAT'S CALLED A MORAL INJURY PERPETRATOR TYPE.

PEOPLE WHO ARE SELF SACRIFICING IN THEIR LINE OF WORK, LIKE POLICE OFFICERS ARE PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE PERPETRATOR TYPE OF MORAL.

BEING ETHICAL AND CARING FOR OTHERS IS A PART OF THE [INAUDIBLE].

ACTING AS A PERPETRATOR DAMAGES THEIR MORAL CORE.

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THIS IS A WELL DOCUMENTED, DEVASTATING AND DISABLING CONDITION, AS SERIOUS AS A PHYSICAL DISABILITY.

GUILT AND SHAME PROGRESS TO WITHDRAWAL FROM RELATIONSHIPS AND WORK.

SUBSTANCE ABUSE, DESPAIR, IDEALITY.

THERE IS NO PURE ONLY MANAGEMENT AND IT IS EXPECTED.

CONSERVATIVE TREATMENT COST ESTIMATES BASED ON VA HOSPITAL DATA ARE UPWARDS OF $50,000 PER PERSON PER YEAR.

$25 MILLION WOULD BARELY COVER THE COST TO TREAT FIVE OFFICERS FOR ONE YEAR.

WHAT ABOUT LAWSUITS? I URGE YOU TO OBTAIN EXPERT PSYCHOLOGICAL RISK ASSESSMENTS, AND EXPERT LEGAL RISK ASSESSMENTS TO INFORM YOUR DECISION.

WE SHOULD PROTECT PEOPLE WHO PROTECT [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'M THE INTERPRETER. JUST SHE NEEDS MORE TIME.

MARTHA HERNANDEZ.

[FOREIGN] HELLO. MY NAME IS, MARTHA HERNANDEZ AND I AM A RESIDENT OF DALLAS DISTRICT 4.

[FOREIGN] I AM HERE TO ASK REPRESENTATIVES TO NOT SIGN AN AGREEMENT WITH ICE.

[FOREIGN] BECAUSE IT HARMS NOT ONLY OUR FAMILIES, BUT ALL OF OUR FAMILIES, YOUR FAMILIES.

[FOREIGN].

IF I SPEAK IN CIRCULATING IN OUR CITY, THE STREETS WILL BE MORE UNSAFE THAN EVER, AND OUR SOCIETY WILL BE MORE DIVIDED.

[FOREIGN] YOUR POSITIONS TO REPRESENT US AND PROTECT US.

[FOREIGN] YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO CREATE A SAFE AND SECURE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL RESIDENTS, [FOREIGN] INCLUDING IMMIGRANTS.

[FOREIGN] WE ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE FABRIC OF THE CITY.

[FOREIGN] WE DESERVE RESPECT, SAFETY, AND DIGNITY.

[FOREIGN] I HOPE WE CAN TRUST YOU WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP TO PROVIDE PROTECTION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

[FOREIGN]

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD WANT A NEIGHBOR TO COME INTO YOUR HOME AND TO IMPOSE RULES ON YOUR HOUSE.

>> [FOREIGN]

>> THAT I HOPE THAT YOU CAN FIND THE LEADERSHIP WITHIN YOURSELF TO FIND THE MARTIN LUTHER KING OR THE.

>> [FOREIGN]

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE]

>> THANK YOU. LUIS MATA.

HE'S NOT PRESENT? JACQUELYN LAW?

>> YEAH.

>> YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING, MS. LAW?

>> CAN YOU SEE AND HEAR ME NOW?

>> YES. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

>> THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS JACQUELYN LAW, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 14.

I'M HERE TODAY AS SOMEONE WHO HAS CLOSE TIES TO THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES IN DALLAS.

A TEXAN TRANSPLANT, BUT I'VE GROWN TO LOVE DALLAS AND CONSIDER IT MY HOME.

I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO URGE THE DALLAS PEOPLE TO SAY NO TO ANY 287 (G) AGREEMENT WITH ICE.

YOU HAVE HEARD COUNTLESS TESTIMONIES TODAY THAT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR ARE LIVING IN FEAR DUE TO ICE, A FEDERAL AGENCY THAT HAS HAD A PATTERN OF KIDNAPPING, OF MAKING UNLAWFUL ARRESTS WITHOUT CONCERNS TOWARDS PROCESS OR INDIVIDUALS RIGHTS.

PEOPLE HAVE TO FEAR GOING TO WORK WALKING ON THE STREET AND GOING ABOUT THEIR LIVES.

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THEY'RE TARGETED BASED ON THEIR PERCEIVED RACE, AND NO LONGER FEEL SAFE, REGARDLESS OF ONE'S RESIDENCY OR CITIZEN STATUS.

AUTHORIZING LOCAL POLICE TO WORK AS ICE AGENTS WILL ONLY INCREASE THE HARM INFLICTED ON PEOPLE.

IT SEEMS EVIDENT TO ME THAT THE 287 G AGREEMENT IS NOT IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AND ENTERING THIS AGREEMENT WILL ERODE ANY TRUST THAT HAS BEEN BUILT BETWEEN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND LOCAL POLICE.

THIS AGREEMENT WILL LEAD TO INCREASED RATES OF RACIAL PROFILING AND VIOLATIONS OF PEOPLE'S RIGHTS, AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WILL BE CAUGHT UP IN THIS VIOLENT CYCLE OF UNLAWFUL DETENTION AND DEPORTATION.

I, ALONG THE MAJORITY OF THE ATTENDANTS HERE, IMPLORING THE CITY TO AVOID THIS ESCALATION, DON'T PUT MORE IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR IN DANGER.

THIS AGREEMENT IS BAD FOR THE CITY AND BAD FOR ITS RESIDENTS, AND TO VOTE, YES, WILL FEEL LIKE A VIOLATION OF TRUST AND DISREGARD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

I'M URGING YOU AS A CONSTITUENT AS SOMEONE WHO LOVES THE CITY AND HAS LOVED ONES AND CLOSE TIES TO IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES HERE TO SAY NO TO THIS AGREEMENT.

>> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A CORRECTION TO MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT.

ALL REGISTERED SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.

THEREFORE, I WILL CALL THE FINAL SPEAKERS FORWARD.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST THREE ROWS OF THE CENTER INTERSECTION.

ANY VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, PLEASE HAVE YOUR VIDEO AND AUDIO PREPARED.

MARTHA LOUIS, ZEESHAN HAFIZ, LIZ MENDOZA, JOSHUA MCNAIR, JULIO ACOSTA, ITSAYANA BEDOYA, ARTHUR FLEMING, DABRIAN LAMBERT, GREGORIO HAYES, BLAKE VAN WICKLYN, ASIEL ALVAREZ, JAVIER HEINE, JENNIFER SANCHEZ, TINA MALONE, CRYSTAL MARTINEZ ALVEZO, AND TERESA BENAVIDEZ.

MARTHA LOUIS.

>> I'M HERE.

>> YOU MAY BEGIN.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MARTHA LOUIS, AND I'M A BUSINESS OWNER, ONE IN DISTRICT 7 AND ONE IN DISTRICT 2.

FOR YEARS, OUR BUSINESS HAD BEEN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER, FAMILIES, FRIENDS, WORKERS AND NEIGHBORS TO SHARE FOOD, MUSIC, AND MOMENTS OF JOY.

WE HAVE BUILT SPACES FILLED WITH COMMUNITY, LOVE, AND CULTURE.

I STAND HERE TODAY NOT ONLY AS A BUSINESS OWNER, BUT AS AN IMMIGRANT AND ALSO A PROUD AMERICAN CITIZEN.

I CAME TO THIS COUNTRY WITH DREAMS AND WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY TO BUILD SOMETHING FROM NOTHING TO CREATE JOBS, TO GIVE BACK, AND TO BE PART OF THE CITY THAT I DEEPLY LOVE.

WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IT'S ALREADY DEEPLY AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITY.

I SEE IT EVERY DAY.

THE FEAR IN PEOPLE'S FACES, THE HESITATION IN OUR CUSTOMERS AND THE UNCERTAINTY AMONG OUR WORKERS.

MANY ARE AFRAID TO GO OUT, AFRAID TO ENJOY THEMSELVES, AFRAID TO SIMPLY LIVE THEIR NORMAL LIVES.

THAT FEAR IS REAL, AND IT'S PAINFUL TO WATCH, IT'S CHANGING OUR CITY AND HURTING SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE OURS.

OUR BUSINESSES ARE BUILT ON HARD WORK AND LOVE.

WE HAVE CREATED JOBS, SUPPORTED LOCAL VENDORS, AND OPENED OUR DOORS TO EVERYONE, NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE, WHO THEY ARE COMING FROM.

BUT NOW THE SENSE OF SAFETY AND BELONGING IS DISAPPEARING.

I'M STANDING HERE FOR EVERYONE WHO CANNOT BE HERE TO SPEAK, FOR THE COOKS, THE SERVERS, THE CLEANERS, THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, THE FRIENDS, AND THE YOUNG PEOPLE.

ALL OF THOSE WHO CONTRIBUTE SO MUCH TO THE CITY ECONOMICALLY AND SOCIALLY, YET LIVE EVERY DAY IN SILENCE AND FEAR.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THEIR TAXES, WHO RAISED THEIR CHILDREN HERE, WHO HAVE BUILT HOUSES, AND WHO HELPED BUILT DALLAS, AND THEY DESERVE TO BE SEEN AND HEAR.

THIS IS JUST NOT ABOUT BUSINESS OR POLITICS.

THIS IS ABOUT COMMUNITY VALUE [OVERLAPPING] AND A CITY WE WANT TO BE.

>> [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

ZEESHAN HAFIZ.

IS NOT PRESENT. LIZ MENDOZA.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LIZ MENDOZA, A PROUD MEXICAN AMERICAN DAUGHTER, AND I SPEAK TODAY ON BEHALF OF SUNRISE DALLAS AND THE YOUNG ACTIVE LABOR LEADERS.

I AGREE WITH MY FRIENDS WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME.

SHAME ON MAYOR ERIC JOHNSON FOR NOT HAVING THE DECENCY TO EVEN SHOW HIS FACE HERE TODAY,

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WHEN HIS ABSURD PROPOSAL TO ACCEPT MONEY THAT HARMS OUR COMMUNITY IS THE REASON WE'RE EVEN HERE TODAY.

HE CONTINUES TO NOT REPRESENT US.

DESPITE ERIC JOHNSON, DALLAS IS A BEAUTIFUL, DIVERSE CITY WITH VIBRANT COMMUNITIES AND RICH CULTURE.

I LOVE THE CITY DEEPLY, AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE YOU TO SAY NO TO 287 G. THIS CONTRACT DOES NOT MAKE DALLAS SAFER.

IT EXPANDS POLICING IN WAYS THAT HARM OUR COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY IMMIGRANTS AND BLACK AND BROWN WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.

IT GRANTS LAW ENFORCEMENT THE POWER TO RACIALLY PROFILE BLACK AND BROWN WORKERS HERE IN DFW FURTHER ERODING TRUST BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR COMMUNITIES AND SEPARATING FAMILIES.

IMMIGRANT WORKERS CONTRIBUTE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, OVER FIVE BILLION DOLLARS IN TAXES IN TEXAS ALONE, AND OVER $96 BILLION NATIONALLY.

IMMIGRANTS ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR WORKFORCE IN CONSTRUCTION, HOSPITALITY, EDUCATION, TECH, HEALTH CARE, TO NAME A FEW.

IMMIGRANTS ARE OUR CO WORKERS, OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR CHILDREN'S TEACHERS, AND OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY ABHORRENT TO SEE THESE MASKED MEN TRAUMATIZE AND TERRORIZE OUR COMMUNITIES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

IS THIS WHAT DALLAS WANTS TO SUPPORT? DALLAS HAS THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO LEAD WITH COMPASSION AND COURAGE.

REJECTING THIS CONTRACT IS A STEP TOWARD PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITIES AND MIND THAT EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE CITY DESERVES DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS CHANCE MCNAIR OR JOSHUA MCNAIR.

JOSHUA MCNAIR.

GARLAND, TEXAS, AND I AM REPRESENTING SUNRISE MOVEMENT, DALLAS, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITIES THAT I HAVE SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE IN.

I'M HERE TO STAND OPPOSED TO BOTH THE ACCEPTANCE OF 287 G AS WELL AS THE PRESENCE OF ICE IN OUR CITY AT ALL, AND I ASK YOU TO DECLINE THIS DEAL AND BEGIN MEASURES TO BLOCK AND REMOVE THEIR EFFORTS IN DALLAS.

I SPENT MY ENTIRE LIFE IN EAST DALLAS AND SOUTH GARLAND.

MY COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN VAST AND DIVERSE, AND THEY'VE BEEN UNIVERSALLY SUPPORTIVE OF ME AND MY FAMILY.

WHEN ANY OF US WERE SHORT ON FOOD, OUR NEIGHBORS HELPED OUT.

WHEN THE ELECTRICITY WENT OUT, THOSE WITH IT LED OTHERS INTO THEIR HOMES.

WHEN ILLNESS STRUCK A FAMILY MEMBER, WE'D ALL PITCH IN TO HELP OUT.

THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A PART OF A COMMUNITY.

ICE IS ANTITHETICAL TO COMMUNITY.

IT'S SOMETHING THEY TARGET AND TRY TO DESTROY.

IF I WERE TO STAND BY NOW AND NOT SAY ANYTHING, IT'D BE A SLAP IN THE FACE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SHAPED ME INTO WHO I AM TODAY.

I WISH MORE FOLKS GREW UP IN A SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY LIKE I DID BECAUSE THEN WE WANT TO HAVE SO MANY ICE AGENTS OUT THERE.

SOLACE DRAGS A SOCIETY WHO INFLICT PAIN AND MISERY ON OTHERS TO MAKE THEMSELVES FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEIR OWN INADEQUACIES.

I'M NOT AFRAID OF THIS HAPPENING.

I'M INFURIATED BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.

WE'LL FEEL THE RAMIFICATIONS OF ICE FOR YEARS TO COME, BUT WILL DALLAS WILLINGLY OPEN THE DOOR FOR THEM OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST TRUMP'S SECRET POLICE FORCE.

WILL YOU HEAR YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE SHOUTING TO STOP COOPERATING WITH ICE? IF YOU THINK ICE WILL STOP AT UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS, I'D ADVISE YOU TO REFRESH YOURSELF ON EARLY 1930S GERMANY AND TAKE A SHOT EVERY TIME YOU SEE A PARALLEL WITH ICE'S EFFORTS HERE.

YOU ALL SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN NEW YORK TWO NIGHTS AGO.

UNLESS YOU WANT US VOTING IN OUR OWN ZORN HERE IN DALLAS, I'D SUGGEST YOU THINK TWICE ABOUT THIS DEAL.

TO CONCLUDE, I'D LIKE TO ASK SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE MORE RELIGIOUSLY INCLINED.

AFTER THE MYRIAD OF COMMANDS AND VERSES FROM THE BIBLE, QURAN AND OTHERS THAT ICE AND THEIR SUPPORTERS HAVE SO BLATANTLY VIOLATED, DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE $25 MILLION WILL BE ENOUGH TO BUY YOUR WAY INTO HEAVEN? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. JULIO ACOSTA.

>> HI, EVERYONE. BEFORE I BEGIN MY TWO MINUTES, I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

ZEESHAN HAFIZ WAS CALLED ABOUT THREE TIMES AGO. HE'S HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THEY COULD SPEAK.

HI, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JULIO ACOSTA.

ALL OF US SHOULD BE AGAINST PARTNERING WITH ICE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

AT ONE POINT, IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT WAS UNDER DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.

THEN IT WAS PLACED UNDER DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

ICE WAS NOT EVEN FORMED UNTIL MARCH 1, 2003.

ICE IS ONLY 22-YEARS-OLD.

ICE NEEDS TO BE ABOLISHED.

WHEN THE POSSIBILITY OF PARTNERING WITH ICE, LIKE WITH 287G AGREEMENTS COME UP, POLICE CHIEFS ACROSS THE NATION TESTIFY THE EXACT SAME THING.

LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS CANNOT BE EVERYWHERE.

LAW ENFORCEMENT RELIES ON BUILDING TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FEELING SAFE TO REPORT

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CRIMES OR ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT LEAD TO SOLVING INVESTIGATIONS.

IT HAS TAKEN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO BUILD UP THE TRUST FROM THE COMMUNITY.

PARTNERING WITH ICE CAN IMMEDIATELY DESTROY THAT TRUST.

WHATEVER WE ALLOW OUR GOVERNMENT TO DO TO OTHERS, OUR GOVERNMENT COULD EVENTUALLY DO TO US.

I CLOSE WITH ASKING EVERYBODY TO FOLLOW ON INSTAGRAM, JUSTICE4MARWAN AND FREE YAKUB, F-R-E-E Y-A-A-K-U-B.

AGAIN, ABOLISH ICE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ITSAYANA BEDOYA.

>> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ITSAYANA BEDOYA HACKS.

I'M A PROUD FIRST GENERATION MEXICAN AMERICAN.

I'M A DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS AND A LIFELONG RESIDENT HERE IN DALLAS.

I'M HERE TO URGE YOU ALL AS OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REJECT THE $25 MILLION DEAL ICE HAS PROPOSED THROUGH 287 G TO WORK WITH OUR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT'S MISSION IS TO PROTECT AND SERVE.

WHEN WE BLUR THAT LINE, WE'LL LOSE THE VERY FOUNDATION OF COMMUNITY SAFETY AND TRUST.

THE 287 G PROGRAM WILL GIVE WAY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ASSIST MODERN DAY GESTAPO TO TERRORIZE MY COMMUNITY.

THE SO CALLED ILLEGAL ALIENS THAT ICE WILL BE TARGETING WITH FORCE BACK BY THE DPD WILL BE A GROSS ABUSE OF POWER, AND SO CATASTROPHICALLY CRUEL TO ALL DISENFRANCHISED COMMUNITIES INVOLVED, BLACK, BROWN, HISPANIC, AND FOR WHAT? TWENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS MAY SOUND LIKE A GOOD DEAL, BUT WHAT IT TRULY BUYS IS THE SILENCE OF THOSE TOO AFRAID TO REPORT CRIMES.

VICTIMS TOO AFRAID TO SEEK JUSTICE, AND CHILDREN TOO AFRAID TO TRUST.

HAVING ACCESS TO EMERGENCY RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY THROUGH OUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS SHOULD BE A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT, NOT UP FOR DEBATE.

EVERY PERSON, REGARDLESS OF THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS HAS THE RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

IMAGINE THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT $25 MILLION COULD HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, IF IT WERE INVESTED IN SUPPORTING LOW INCOME FAMILIES LOSING THEIR SNAP BENEFITS, INSTEAD OF TERRORIZING IMMIGRANTS ON BEHALF OF A FASCIST AND RACIST ADMINISTRATION.

DO WHAT WE AS TAXPAYERS PAY YOU TO DO AND PROTECT AND REPRESENT OUR VOICES.

IF YOU AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ALL 287 G TO PASS, THE MESSAGE YOU'RE SENDING TO US IS THAT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAN THE SAFETY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

IN MY COMMUNITY, WE OFTEN SAY.

[FOREIGN] WE DIDN'T CROSS THE BORDER, THE BORDER CROSSED US.

NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL ON STOLEN LAND. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ARTHUR FLEMING.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS ARTHUR FLEMING PAST PRESIDENT NAACP DALLAS.

JESUS IS BACK AND HE IS BLACK.

WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK.

WE CAN'T BOOT OUR WAY OUT OF WHITE SUPREMACY.

I'M HERE TO STATE THAT DALLAS PRESIDENT SHARON BROOKS OFFICIAL POSITION IN OPPOSITION TO 287 G AS IN DALLAS, AND THE SUPPORT OF CHIEF COMO.

MANY REASONS HAVE BEEN STATED HERE TODAY, BUT HERE'S JUST A COUPLE MORE.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS RIGHT WING RACISTS PRETENDING TO BE ICE AGENTS WITH NO IDENTIFICATION, NO AND MASS IN OUR COMMUNITY KIDNAPPING OUR YOUTH.

FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY, ICE IS A REMNANT AND REMINDER OF THE OLD PRE CIVIL WAR SLAVE PATROLS, THE FATHER OF OUR CURRENT POLICING SYSTEM.

WE HAVE ICE FACILITY PRESENCE ALREADY IN DALLAS.

REMEMBER THE SHOOTING ABOUT A MONTH AGO? DALLAS LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS COP CITY.

THEY GOT MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

DALLAS HAS ISSUES, BUT NONE THAT ICE CAN CURE.

$25 MILLION VERSUS MORE LAWSUITS, MONEY VERSUS MORALS.

MARTIN SAID, "THE MEASURE OF A MAN IS NOT WHERE STANDS AT TIMES OF COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE.

THE MEASURE OF A MAN IS WHERE HE STANDS IN TIMES OF CHALLENGES AND CONTROVERSY." CITY OF DALLAS, WHERE DO YOU STAND? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. DABRIAN LAMBERT.

>> GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS VARIAN LIMBERT AND I SERVE AS A DALLAS COUNTY GOP PRECINCT CHAIR, AND I WORK WITH ATTORNEY POINT USA, AND I SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE YOUNG AMERICAN FOUNDATION.

THIS IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE CITY PARTNERING WITH ICE THROUGH THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

THIS PROGRAM ISN'T ABOUT POLITICS.

IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITIES.

IT GIVES LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT THE TOOLS, TRAINING, AND TO IDENTIFY CRIMINALS WHO ARE IN THIS COUNTRY LEGALLY AND HAVE COMMITTED SERIOUS CRIMES.

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WITHOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP, TOO MANY DANGEROUS OFFENDERS SLIP RIGHT THROUGH THE CRACKS, ONLY TO RE-OFFEND AND HARM MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE.

BY WORKING WITH ICE, WE CAN ALSO STRENGTHEN PARTNERSHIPS WITH PEOPLE LIKE THE DEA SO THAT OUR CITIES CAN GO AFTER MAJOR DRUG OPERATIONS AND TRAFFICKING NETWORKS ACROSS CITY AND STATE LINES.

THIS IS HOW WE MAKE OUR STREETS SAFE BY ENFORCING THE LAW, TARGETING VIOLENT CRIMINALS, AND USING EVERY TOOL AVAILABLE TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS.

EVERY PATIENT, EVERY SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, AND EVERY FAMILY DESERVES TO FEEL SAFE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AS SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTS THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF CONSERVATIVES, I BELIEVE WE CAN BOTH BE COMPASSIONATE AND FIRM.

WE CAN WELCOME THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE LAW WHILE HOLDING THOSE ACCOUNTABLE WHO BREAK IT.

THE 287(G) PROGRAM ALLOWS US TO DO EXACTLY THAT.

TODAY, I URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO STAND WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND STAY WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS, AND STAND WITH THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS.

LET'S MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY IS NOT A SAFE HAVEN FOR CRIMINALS, BUT A PLACE WHERE LAW AND ORDER IS RESPECTED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. GREGORIO HAYES.

>> TOTAL RESPECT FOR YOU ALL. COVERS OFF.

I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS GREGORIO HAYES.

I'M YOUR NEXT CANDIDATE FOR CD 30.

THE REASON I'M STANDING HERE IS TO SAY THANK YOU TO MAYOR JOHNSON AND THE REST OF THE COMMITTEES HERE, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME AS A VETERAN TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU TO SPEAK AND TO REPRESENT YOU ALL IN THE NEXT 2026 ELECTION.

TODAY, I WANT TO STAND BEFORE YOU AS A VETERAN AND OUR GREAT ARMED FORCES, A MAN WHO TOOK AN OATH TO DEFEND THIS GREAT NATION AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

THE OATH WASN'T JUST A WORD.

IT WAS A SOLEMN PROMISE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES, OUR FAMILIES, AND OUR VERY FABRIC OF OUR SOCIETY.

NOW LET ME TELL YOU THAT PROMISES EXTENDED FAR BEYOND THE BATTLEFIELD.

IT LIVES IN THE HEARTS OF EVERY SOLDIER, EVERY OFFICER, AND EVERY PATRIOT WHO LIVES IN UNITED.

JUSTICE AND RULE OF LAW.

THAT IS THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE ARE NOW IN DEFICIT IS LAW.

EVERY PERSON THAT COMES IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY IS AUTOMATICALLY BREAKING THE LAW.

THEY NEED TO BE PROSECUTED AND REMOVED.

EVERY PERSON THAT'S IN DALLAS IS PAYING FOR THAT PRICE AS TAXPAYERS.

EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IS MONEY BEING TAKEN AWAY FROM OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE BEEN USED FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE AND THE CITY.

WE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWING ANYONE TO BE ON THESE PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT LEGALLY UNDER THE CONSTITUTION THAT WE ARE UNDER.

WE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWING ANYBODY TO TELL US HOW, WHAT OR WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IF THEY ARE NOT LEGALLY IN THIS COUNTRY.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE LAUGHING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I SERVE FOR YOU TO, TO HAVE YOUR RIGHTS FOR THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

>> NOT JUST OTHERS HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. BYE.

>> THANK YOU. BLAKE VAN WICKLYN.

[LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BLAKE VAN WICKLYN AND I'M HERE TO URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO REJECT THE PROPOSED 287(G) PROGRAM.

I'M HERE BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORS ARE IMMIGRANTS, MY CO-WORKERS ARE IMMIGRANTS.

THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO CALL THIS CITY HOME, WHO LIVE, WORK, AND MAKE THEIR LIVES HERE ALONGSIDE THE REST OF US.

287(G) WOULD DEPUTIZE DALLAS POLICE INTO ICE'S MACHINERY OF REPRESSION, FEAR, AND STATE VIOLENCE.

ACROSS THE NATION, WHEREVER THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN ADOPTED, IT LEFT BEHIND A TRAIL OF RACIAL PROFILING, CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, AND A FAMILIES TORN APART IN ITS WAKE.

IT DESTROYS PUBLIC TRUST WITH THE POLICE.

IT MAKES COMMUNITY MEMBERS AFRAID TO CALL 911, TO GO TO WORK, TO EVEN TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL, AND THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

EYES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, CONTINUES TO ACT WITH IMPUNITY, CARRYING OUT MILITARIZED CAMPAIGNS OF INTIMIDATION AND TERROR AGAINST ENTIRE COMMUNITIES.

IF DALLAS SIGNS ON TO THAT, WE WILL SHARE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT HARM.

IT WILL MAKE OUR CITY MORALLY COMPLICIT IN STATE CRIMES AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORS, AND WILL ALSO OPEN UP THE CITY TO LEGAL LIABILITY.

ALL WORKING PEOPLE OF THIS CITY DESERVE BETTER THAN TO LIVE IN FEAR.

THEY DESERVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE WITH DIGNITY, SECURITY, AND SAFETY.

I WOULD URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, TO PROTECT ALL DALLAS RESIDENTS.

DON'T BE COMPLICIT WITH ICE FEAR.

REJECT 287(G). THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ASSAD ALVAREZ.

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>> MY NAME IS ASSAD ALVAREZ, AND I'M HERE TO SAY NO 287(G).

HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU SAY NO TO 287(G)? ALMOST ALL THE ROOM.

LOOK AT THAT. MAYOR JOHNSON ASKED HIS COMMITTEE TO EXPLORE JOINING THIS PROGRAM.

NOW, HE DIDN'T SHOW UP BECAUSE IT'S IN FEAR.

IRONIC, ISN'T IT? IMMIGRANT FAMILIES HAVE LIVED WITH THAT SAME FEAR HE'S FACING RIGHT NOW.

YET THEY STILL SHOW UP TO WORK, TO SCHOOL, AND TO SERVE THIS CITY EVERY SINGLE DAY.

CHIEF COMO, YOU MADE THE RIGHT CALL TO DENY THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

BUT WHILE CITY HALL WILL DEBATE THIS PROGRAM, DALLAS POLICE IS ALREADY COOPERATING WITH ICE, AND HSI. I READ THE MEMO.

FUCK RECORDS SHOW THAT DPD OFFICERS WERE RUNNING SEARCHES UNDER THE REASON ICE AND ERO.

THERE'S ALSO ONE CONFIRMED OFFICER FROM LINKEDIN THAT WE FOUND OUT FROM THE DPD THAT NOW WORKS AS A DEPORTATION OFFICER FOR ICE.

COLLABORATION IS ALREADY HAPPENING QUIETLY, WITHOUT OVERSIGHT, OR PUBLIC COMMENT.

YET, THIS SAME DEPARTMENT IS INVESTING 20 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH DIVISION SO THAT 20 MILLION TO BUILD TRUST WHILE STILL OPENING THE DOOR FOR ICE.

I ASK A POLICE BOARD STAFF MEMBER, WHAT DO I DO IF I SEE MASKED MEN ACROSS THIS CITY? CALL THE POLICE. YET, WE ALL KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RESPOND WITHIN THE HOUR. THEY'RE ALREADY TAKEN.

IF YOU CAN'T SHOW UP FOR EMERGENCIES IN EIGHT MINUTES, YOU SHOULD NOT SHOW UP FOR ICE IN EIGHT SECONDS.

LET'S BE HONEST. THAT MEMO.

IT SAYS, WE WON'T WEAR ICE'S BADGE, BUT WE'LL OPEN THE DOOR FOR THEM.

EVERY MINUTE DPD SPENDS HELPING ICE IS A MINUTE STOLEN FROM SOMEONE WANTING HELP.

YOU DO NOT NEED A 287(G) AGREEMENT TO ACT LIKE ICE, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.

DALLAS CAN'T BUILD TRUST AND DEPORT PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME.

DALLAS IS HERE TO SET THE TONE FOR OTHER CITIES TO DENY 287(G).

>> THANK YOU. XAVIER HEIN.

>> THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> MORNING. REGARDING AGREEMENT 287(G), I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS.

ONE CONCERN IS THAT THIS WOULD BE REASSIGNING OFFICERS THAT COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT RESPONSE TIME, AND THAT IS A FAIR POINT.

BUT WITH $25 MILLION BOOST TO THE FUNDS, I'M CONFIDENT THAT CHIEF COMO CAN COUNTER THAT CONCERN.

FURTHERMORE, THESE OFFICERS WOULD BE ASSISTING IN GETTING CRIMINALS OFF THE STREET AND MAKE NO MISTAKE.

UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS ARE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE CRIMINALS.

ANOTHER CONCERN IS THAT THE AGREEMENT WOULD ERODE PUBLIC TRUST.

TO THAT, I SAY, KEEPING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ON THE STREETS WOULD ERODE THE TRUST OF LAW ABIDING AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THE TRUST OF LEGAL LAW ABIDING IMMIGRANTS.

FURTHERMORE, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS AN INSULT TO ALL THOSE WHO IMMIGRATE TO THIS COUNTRY IN THE CORRECT LEGAL WAY.

FINALLY, IT HAS BEEN STATED THAT DALLAS DOESN'T NEED THIS PUBLICITY.

THEY DON'T NEED THIS ATTENTION.

TO THAT, I SAY SIMPLY THIS, HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.

BECAUSE ACCORDING TO A 2023 REPORT FROM THE MIGRATION POLICY INSTITUTE, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 319,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS IN DALLAS COUNTY.

SEND THE MESSAGE THAT DALLAS WILL NOT TOLERATE VIOLATIONS TO OUR NATION'S SOVEREIGNTY, AND THAT VIOLATORS OF TITLE 8 US CODE 1325 AND 1326 WILL BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.

YES, 1325 IS A CRIME.

IT'S A MISDEMEANOR. THAT IS A CRIME.

THEY FAILED TO MENTION THAT 1326 IS A FELONY.

PLEASE SAY YES TO 287(G).

LET DALLAS POLICE AND ICE MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFER AND BETTER THAN EVER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. JENNIFER SANCHEZ.

>> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JENNY SANCHEZ, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE TEXAS CIVIL RIGHTS PROJECT.

I SPEAK TODAY NOT ONLY AS AN ADVOCATE, BUT AS A DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS, AND AS THE WIFE OF A FORMER DREAMER.

I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE FEAR FAMILIES LIVE WITH WHEN LOCAL POLICE ARE ASKED TO ENFORCE FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAW.

A 287(G) AGREEMENT WOULD TURN DALLAS POLICE INTO ICE AGENTS, PUTTING EVERY IMMIGRANT AND PERSON OF COLOR IN GREATER DANGER.

WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN CITIES SIGN THESE AGREEMENTS.

RACIAL PROFILING, WRONGFUL ARREST, LAWSUITS THAT COST TAXPAYERS MILLIONS AND COMMUNITIES LIVING IN FEAR.

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IN DALLAS, WE'RE NOT BOUND TO FOLLOW THE PATH THAT OTHERS ARE BEING FORCED DOWN.

WHILE SIGNING BILL 8 REQUIRES COUNTIES TO ENTER INTO THESE AGREEMENTS, IT DOESN'T APPLY TO CITIES.

WE HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE A DIFFERENT CHOICE, ONE THAT PRIORITIZES COMMUNITY WELL BEING, OVER CRIMINALIZATION.

WE URGE DALLAS TO REJECT ANY 287(G) AGREEMENT AND INSTEAD INVEST IN SOLUTIONS THAT PROTECT AND UPLIFT EVERY RESIDENT, ESPECIALLY IMMIGRANTS.

[FOREIGN] THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. TINA MALONE.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF COMO, AND DISTINGUISHED COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS TINA MALONE, 9718 VISTA OAK DRIVE.

I'M A HOMEOWNER IN DISTRICT 10 AND AN EDUCATOR.

WHEN MY STUDENTS TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THEM, WE ASK THE QUESTION, WHO BENEFITS? PEOPLE SPEAK OF THIS COUNTRY BEING INVADED, AND THEY ARE RIGHT.

THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN INVADED.

IT WAS INVADED WHEN MENNONITE ANCESTORS PERSECUTED FOR THEIR RELIGION IN SWITZERLAND, FLED AND SETTLED IN WHAT IS NOW THE MIDWEST.

WE DID NOT COME HERE LEGALLY.

BUT THE GOVERNMENT DIDN'T COME FOR US.

WHO BENEFITS? DURING THE TRANSATLANTIC SLAVE TRADE, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AFRICAN AND SLAVE PEOPLE ENTERED THE COUNTRY NOT ONLY ILLEGALLY, BUT UNWILLINGLY.

THE GOVERNMENT SURE DIDN'T DEPORT THEM.

WHO BENEFITS? IN 1964, THE US TERMINATED THE BRACERO PROGRAM, WHICH HAD LEGALLY ADMITTED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MEXICAN GUEST WORKERS ANNUALLY TO MEET US LABOR DEMANDS IN AGRICULTURE AND SERVICE SECTORS.

IN 1965, THE US STRICTLY CAPPED MEXICAN VISAS.

BUT THE US ECONOMY CONTINUED TO RELY ON LOW WAGE MEXICAN LABOR, AND THESE ACTIONS RESULTED IN EVER INCREASING UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS.

WHO BENEFITS? NOW, CHIEF COMO HAS DECLINED PARTICIPATION IN 287(G) TASK FORCE, BECAUSE IT WOULD UNDERMINE COMMUNITY TRUST AND SAFETY.

BUT MAYOR JOHNSON WANTS THE DECISION RECONSIDERED, BECAUSE IT COMES WITH $25 MILLION AND FEDERAL STRINGS.

WHO BENEFITS? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. CRYSTAL MARTINEZ ALVISA.

>> GOOD MORNING, DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH FIVE WORDS.

EMPATHY, ETHICS, EXCELLENCE, ENGAGEMENT, AND EQUITY.

I'M SURE THESE SOUND FAMILIAR AS THEY ARE YOUR CORE VALUES. STARTING WITH EMPATHY.

TO ALLOW ICE INTO DALLAS COMMUNITIES WOULD BE TO FOSTER FEAR AND IGNORANCE BECAUSE ICE TARGETS PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT, PLACES OF RELIGIOUS PRACTICE, SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITIES, GROCERY STORES, COURT HEARINGS, AND THE STREETS.

ETHICS, YOUR WORD HAS WEIGHT.

SHOW US THAT IT IS WORTH BELIEVING.

DO NOT LET MONEY SWAY YOUR DECISION AND COMPROMISE YOUR INTEGRITY OF THIS CORE VALUE.

EXCELLENCE AND ENGAGEMENT.

TRUMP HAS STATED, ICE RAIDS HAVEN'T GONE FAR ENOUGH.

THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD BE ENDORSING IN DALLAS COMMUNITIES.

ABDUCTIONS BY ICE AGENTS WEARING MASKS OR NON-IDENTIFIABLE CLOTHING, USE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE SUCH AS RESTRAINING AND STRIKING PEOPLE CAUSING PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA, AND WHICH ALL VIOLATE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT WHICH COVERS ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF CITIZENSHIP STATUS.

LASTLY, EQUITY, 58.1% OF THE CITY OF DALLAS POPULATION IS NON-WHITE.

THIS IS A TOTAL OF 482,783 PEOPLE THAT WILL BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO RACIAL PROFILING.

NOW, IF YOU WOULD TAKE A MOMENT TO LOOK AT EACH OTHER CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU WILL SEE THAT YOU ALL HAVE DIFFERENT SKIN TONES AND FACIAL FEATURES.

A CITIZEN AND UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT LOOKS LIKE ME AND YOU, A HUMAN BEING, ALL DESERVING OF DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

FOR THOSE WHO ARE RELIGIOUS, GOD DID NOT GIVE US A SPIRIT OF FEAR BUT OF LOVE AND SELF-CONTROL.

PLEASE LET LOVE BE STRONGER THAN HATE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. TERESA BENAVIDEZ.

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS TERESA BENAVIDEZ.

I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 9.

I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TO STAND BEHIND THE DECISION MADE BY THE DALLAS POLICE CHIEF AND

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REJECTING THE $25 MILLION OFFER FOR THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

WE DON'T HAVE TO WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE CITY AGREES TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE TRACK RECORD OF THE ICE AGENTS IN THE OTHER CITIES AND THE HAVOC THAT THEY'VE CREATED.

THESE UNTRAINED AGENTS INFILTRATED CITIES, AGGRESSIVELY ARRESTING PEOPLE WITHOUT A WARRANT, OFTEN DETAINING US CITIZENS AND VIOLATING HUMAN RIGHTS AND THEIR DUE PROCESS.

WHY DO WE THINK THAT IT WILL BE ANY DIFFERENT IN DALLAS? THIS CITY HAS WORKED HARD TO ADDRESS TRUST AND SAFETY CONCERNS FOR ITS CITIZENS.

DIDN'T WE JUST EXPERIENCE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT NOT LONG AGO, AND THAT EVENT WAS TO ENHANCE THE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS? WHY DO WE WANT TO ERODE THE PROGRESS THE CITY HAS MADE BY INVITING ACTIVITY THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING TEAR GASSING OUR CHILDREN, AS WAS DONE IN CHICAGO, THROWING A 67-YEAR-OLD US CITIZEN TO THE GROUND AND BREAKING SIX RIBS, WHO WAS TRAINING FOR THE NEW YORK MARATHON, ARRESTING A 79-YEAR-OLD US CITIZEN, BUSINESS OWNER IN CALIFORNIA, WHO IS CURRENTLY IN A LAWSUIT AGAINST IT FOR $50 MILLION, OR ENTERING OUR SCHOOLS AND TRAUMATIZING OUR CHILDREN BY ARRESTING TEACHERS AND DAYCARE WORKERS? MANY ARE US CITIZENS AND ARE HERE LEGAL TO WORK, AS THEY DID IN COLORADO.

THE CURATE OF WAIVING $25 MILLION IN FRONT OF THE CITY, IT PALES INTO COMPARISON WITH THE LAWSUITS THAT THE CITY WILL FACE.

ALREADY, MANY CITIES HAVE JOINED THE ACLU TO END THE IMMIGRATION RATES.

WHY DO WE WANT TO BEGIN? AGAIN, I ASK YOU, IS $25 MILLION WORTH OF HAVOC IN LAWSUITS THAT THIS CITY WILL FACE FOR MANY YEARS?

MEMBERS OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE, THIS CONCLUDES.

>> MADAM SECRETARY, ZEESHAN HAFIZ WAS CALLED IN THE CHAMBERS AND DID NOT HEAR, IF YOU COULD CALL HIM BACK.

>> IF THE PRESIDING OFFICER IS OKAY WITH THAT.

>> THAT'S FINE.

>> OKAY. ZEESHAN HAFIZ, YOU MAY BEGIN.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ZEESHAN HAFIZ.

I WON'T BE READING A SPEECH TO YOU TODAY.

I'M RUNNING FOR CONGRESS IN DISTRICT 33.

I'M CALLING TO SPEAK TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE'RE IN A VERY DISTINCT PART OF OUR NATION'S HISTORY.

ONE THAT WILL BE REMEMBERED FOREVER.

AND YOU ALL HAVE A CHOICE.

DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY? OR DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THE SIDE OF HISTORY OF SECRET POLICE, WEARING SKI MASKS, NO IDENTIFICATION, TERRORIZING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR? THAT'S NOT WHAT DALLAS IS ABOUT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS CITY IS ABOUT.

THAT IS NOT WHY YOU WERE ELECTED INTO YOUR POSITION.

YOU WERE ELECTED TO DEFEND OUR CITIZENS, DEFEND OUR PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE CITIZENS OR NON-CITIZENS.

THE THING THAT SCARES ME THE MOST, AS I TALK TO MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS, [NOISE] IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO THEY ARE, WHETHER THEY'RE HERE LEGALLY OR ANY OTHER WAY.

THEY ARE AFRAID. AND WE HAVE BUILT SO MANY YEARS OF TRUST BETWEEN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR PEOPLE, THAT'S GOING TO BE ERODED FOR THE COST OF $25 MILLION.

IS IT REALLY WORTH $25 MILLION FOR EVERYONE TO LOSE THEIR SAFETY? BECAUSE OUR PEOPLE ARE NOW AFRAID TO TRUST THEIR LAW ENFORCEMENT? THINK ABOUT THE DECISION YOU'RE ABOUT TO MAKE.

THIS IS A HISTORIC TIME AND A HISTORIC CHOICE THAT YOU WILL MAKE TODAY, ONE THAT WILL BE REMEMBERED FOREVER.

YOUR VOTE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOREVER.

WHOSE SIDE DO YOU WANT TO BE ON? BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

FREE PEOPLE LIKE MARWAN FROM OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.

BROTHER MAHER, BROTHER YACOUB, BROTHER ARNULFO.

SAMI HAMDI, A PROMINENT JOURNALIST, SO MANY IMPRISONED WITH NO DUE PROCESS.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE JOINT COMMITTEE, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

WE WILL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.

THE TIME IS 11:43, AND WE ARE IN RECESS.

[APPLAUSE] THE TIME IS 11:57.

WE HAVE A QUORUM, AND WE ARE BACK IN SESSION. MADAM SECRETARY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WILL NOW READ THE DISCUSSION ACTION ITEM INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM A IS DISCUSSION OF THE CITY'S POTENTIAL PARTICIPATION IN THE US IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT 287(G) PROGRAM AND ACCEPTANCE OF ASSOCIATED FEDERAL FUNDS. THIS IS YOUR ITEM.

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>> THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES, TWO ROUNDS TO ASK QUESTIONS, SHARE CONCERNS, SEEK CLARITY FOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL AND PUBLIC SAFETY IMPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

CHIEF OF DPD AND ICE REPRESENTATIVE HAVE BEEN GIVEN A FEW QUESTIONS TO PROVIDE GENERAL INFORMATION AND BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION.

WE WILL HEAR AND OPEN A STATEMENT FROM DPD.

I'M ASKING DPD TO PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM FIRST, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF COMEAUX. YOU MAY BEGIN.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, ALL. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS REGARDING DPD RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE IN A REALLY GOOD POSITION, I BELIEVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE WORKING EXTREMELY HARD TO BUILD TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME.

I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SAY THAT VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN BY OVER 10% RIGHT NOW.

ALSO, HOMICIDES ARE DOWN BY 22% RIGHT NOW.

THOSE ARE REALLY GOOD STATISTICS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE RAISED UP OUR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, WHICH SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.

BUT WITH THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE DOWN 40 DEATHS IN DALLAS FOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS. THAT'S PHENOMENAL.

SO IF YOU TAKE THAT HOMICIDE RATE AND YOU TAKE THAT VEHICLE RATE, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 80 FAMILIES THAT ARE NOT GRIEVING TODAY, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS YEAR, WE HAD LESS OFFICERS LEAVE THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT THAN IN ANY RECENT TIME.

WE ARE KEEPING OUR OFFICERS IN DALLAS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THREE WEEKS AGO, WE HAD AN ACADEMY CLASS THAT STARTED WITH THE SECOND LARGEST.

SECOND LARGEST IN THE HISTORY OF DALLAS, BUT 77 PEOPLE START THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ACADEMY.

COMING UP HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'LL BE ANNOUNCING HOW MANY ARE STARTING THE NOVEMBER CLASS.

HISTORICALLY, ABOUT 35, 38, MAYBE 40 IS IN THE NOVEMBER CLASS.

WE'RE GOING TO BLOW THAT NUMBER AWAY.

THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING SOME REALLY GOOD THINGS.

WHILE MANY LARGE CITIES ARE TAKING AWAY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WE'RE LEAVING HOURS RIGHT IN PLACE.

OUR NPO OFFICERS ARE DOING THEIR JOB, THEY'RE ENGAGING IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVERY SINGLE DAY, IS WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO BUILD THAT TRUST, AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

WE'VE BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE ON CRIME.

FROM DAY 1 OF ME ARRIVING, I'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT GOING AFTER ANYBODY THAT HAS A FELONY WARRANT IS A PRIORITY.

TODAY, WE'VE ARRESTED APPROXIMATELY OVER 500 INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE HAD FELONY WARRANTS, RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROXIMATELY 2,500 PRIOR ARRESTS.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE VIOLENT CRIME STAYS DOWN IN DALLAS, AND IT'S WORKING.

THE DATA SHOWS IT'S WORKING, AND I AM EXTREMELY PROUD OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THE SUCCESS THAT THEY'RE HAVING.

WHEN I GOT HERE, I MADE IT CLEAR.

WE WILL COOPERATE AND ASSIST WITH OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS.

I'VE NEVER CHANGED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE RULES OF DALLAS SAYS.

ALL I DID IS ABIDE BY WHAT'S IN BLACK AND WHITE.

BUT IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

BUT WE HAVE A LANE BEING LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE FEDERAL HAS A LANE BEING FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TASK FORCE OFFICERS ON MANY FEDERAL PROGRAMS, AND THEY'RE GOOD.

THEY GO AFTER VIOLENT, BAD DRUG CRIMINALS.

WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT'S WORKING THAT.

EVERY SINGLE DAY, THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE TO KEEP DALLAS SAFE.

IF ANYONE KNOWS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IT'S ME.

I WAS THERE FOR 28 YEARS, AND I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A TASK FORCE OFFICER, AND I KNOW THE REQUIREMENT, AND I KNOW THE HOURS THAT IT TAKES AND I KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO

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DO TO BE A TASK FORCE OFFICER.

NOW, I'LL TAKE ALL OF THAT AND WE GOT OFFERED TO PARTNER IN A TASK FORCE OFFICER AGREEMENT WITH ICE.

I SAT BACK, I LOOKED AT ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN DALLAS, AND IT'S NOT THE PROGRAM FOR US.

[NOISE] IT WILL NOT MAKE DALLAS ANY SAFER BECAUSE WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY GOING AFTER THOSE THAT ARE COMMITTING VIOLENT CRIMES ALREADY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THIS PROGRAM WOULD NOT HELP US IN ANY KIND OF WAY.

ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS HIRED, AND I WAS TOLD, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WAS TO GET RESPONSE TIMES DOWN.

SO WHY WOULD I EVEN THINK ABOUT GIVING UP SO MANY OFFICERS THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO EVERYONE IN DALLAS WHEN THE PHONE CALL CAME IN, A 911 CALL NEEDING HELP? WE HAVE TO BE THERE FOR EVERYONE IN DALLAS WHEN THAT PHONE CALL COMES IN.

THIS PROGRAM WOULD NOT HELP US MAKE EVERYONE SAFER IN DALLAS AND GET TO THE CALLS THAT'S NECESSARY.

MATTER OF FACT, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO BE ABOUT THE MONEY, AND JUST SAY 25 MILLION.

WELL, NOW I HAVE TO BACKFILL THOSE OFFICERS THAT WOULD BE WORKING THIS 287(G) PROGRAM.

SO HOW DO I BACKFILL THAT TO MAKE SURE I TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE THAT'S IN HERE? I HAVE TO PAY OVERTIME.

WE START PAYING OVERTIME TO OUR OFFICERS TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE IN DALLAS.

OVERTIME AMOUNT COMPARED TO A REGULAR SALARY AMOUNT THAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS THEY WOULD REIMBURSE US, REIMBURSE.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY FIRST, AND THEN THEY SAY THEY WILL REIMBURSE US.

THE OVERTIME RATE IS GREATER THAN THE REIMBURSEMENT RATE.

IT MAKES NO SENSE EVEN FINANCIALLY BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE UPSIDE DOWN.

THAT'S EASY, QUICK MATH.

YOU'RE PAYING OVERTIME, AND YOU'RE GETTING REIMBURSED ON REGULAR TIME.

MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

MY GOAL IS TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE IN DALLAS, RESPOND TO 911 CALLS AS QUICK AS WE CAN.

RIGHT NOW, I'M EXTREMELY HAPPY TO SAY, EVERY SINGLE MONTH, OUR RESPONSE TIMES ARE GOING DOWN.

THEY'RE GOING DOWN. THEY'RE NOT WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE.

I WILL ADMIT THAT IN FRONT OF ANYONE.

WE WANT TO BE BETTER.

WE WILL GET BETTER.

BUT THEY'RE GOING DOWN EVERY SINGLE MONTH RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY THAT TRACTION AND KEEPING EVERYONE SAFE IN DALLAS.

THAT'S WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW FOR US TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE AND KEEP THE COMMUNITY BELIEVING IN THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IT'S DOING THE VERY BEST TO SERVE THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF COMEAUX.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH MY LEFT, AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH COUNCILMAN RIDLEY, AND THEN COME AROUND.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN RIDLEY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. CHIEF, HOW MANY OFFICERS WOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE STREET AND USED BY ICE UNDER THIS 287(G) PROGRAM?

>> WELL, IF WE DID MATH SIMPLY, JUST VERY SIMPLE MATH, AND THIS IS AN APPROXIMATE.

THE DEAL WAS THEY WOULD REIMBURSE THE SALARY OF THE OFFICER.

THE COMMENT WAS, WE CAN DO UP TO 25 MILLION.

IF YOU DID UP TO 25 MILLION, LET'S JUST USE A ROUND NUMBER OF 100,000 FOR THE SALARY OF AN OFFICER.

WHEN ACTUALLY, IF YOU THROW IN BENEFITS AND EVERYTHING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.

IT'S PROBABLY 120 SOMETHING THOUSAND.

FOR YOUR QUESTION, I JUST WANT TO USE 100,000 TO MAKE THE MATH VERY SIMPLE.

SO WE SAY 100,000, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 250 OFFICERS.

IF YOU TAKE 250 OFFICERS AWAY FROM THE STREETS OF DALLAS, AUTOMATICALLY, RESPONSE TIMES ARE GOING TO GO UP EVEN HIGHER.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> THANK YOU. I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEES, BUT THANK YOU, SIR, FOR ACKNOWLEDGING ME.

I'VE HEARD SOMETHING MENTIONED ABOUT, WELL, YOU'VE MENTIONED REIMBURSEMENT, THAT THIS IS NOT MONEY UP FRONT, WE WOULD HAVE TO BE REIMBURSED.

IS THERE A STRING RELATED TO A QUOTA TO BE REIMBURSED?

>> YES, MA'AM. I WAS TOLD THAT THE EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE FOR US TO APPROXIMATELY 50 IMMIGRANTS PER DAY IN ORDER TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT THAT REIMBURSEMENT.

>> SO 50 PER DAY TO QUALIFY FOR REIMBURSEMENT?

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IS THAT VIOLENT CRIMINALS, OR IS THAT JUST ANYBODY?

>> WELL, ANYONE THAT'S AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, THAT WOULD BE THE EXPECTATION THAT WE REACH 50 A DAY.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. CHIEF, AS YOU MENTIONED, AND WE SEE THE RESULTS OF CALL TIMES GOING DOWN CURRENTLY, MOST RECENTLY, HOW WOULD THIS IMPACT CALL TIMES MOVING FORWARD?

>> MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> WELL, OPERATIONALLY, AND THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

THIS IS AN OPERATIONAL DECISION, I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OFFICERS FROM PATROL TO ALLOW THEM TO BE IN PATROL CARS TO CONDUCT THESE IMMIGRATION ACTIVITIES.

YOU TAKE 250 OFFICERS AWAY FROM PATROL, IT WOULD HURT US REALLY BAD.

CALL TIMES WOULD SKYROCKET.

>> SO WHETHER THE NUMBER IS 25 MILLION, 10 MILLION, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER COULD BE, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IF THOSE DOLLARS WERE NO LONGER AVAILABLE AND WE WERE TO HIRE NEW OFFICERS WITH THOSE DOLLARS BEING OFFERED TODAY, HOW WOULD WE SUSTAIN THAT MOVING FORWARD?

>> WELL, THE MONEY WOULD GO AWAY.

FIRST OF ALL, THE MONEY WOULD BE GONE, AND THAT'S ONLY A REIMBURSEMENT.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY TO HIRE NEW OFFICES.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT HAVING A PROBLEM HIRING NEW OFFICERS.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IN DALLAS IS WORKING, AND WE WANT THAT TO CONTINUE TO WORK.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE TOP POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND WE'RE STRIVING TO BE THE NUMBER ONE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> BECOMING A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER REQUIRES A LOT OF TRAINING AND A LOT OF SUPERVISION.

>> WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING, IF ANY, WOULD COME WITH A PARTNERSHIP?

>> RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE AN ACADEMY THAT'S 10 MONTHS TO BECOME A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER.

TO BE QUITE HONEST, WHEN I TOOK THIS JOB, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNED ME BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, MAN, THAT'S LONG.

I'M COMPETING AGAINST OTHER MAJOR DEPARTMENTS, ACADEMY THAT'S NOT AS LONG.

THAT CONCERNED ME BECAUSE I WAS A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT RECRUITING.

BUT AFTER BEING HERE FOR SIX MONTHS, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE TRAIN FOR 10 MONTHS.

IT'S WHAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT ON THE STREET WORKS.

IT TAKES 10 MONTHS OF TRAINING FOR YOU TO GO OUT AND BE EFFECTIVE.

SIGNING A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, THEY WILL GIVE YOU TRAINING.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW LONG IT IS, BUT I'M SURE IT'S WATCHING A VIDEO.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF.

>> THANK YOU, MEYER TAM.

COUNCIL ROTH, YOU'LL RECOGNIZE 2 MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. MANY LARGE CITIES COMPARABLE TO DALLAS, DON'T SEEM TO BE PARTICIPATING, IN THIS TYPE OF A PROGRAM.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IF THERE WOULD BE ANY VALUE FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS 287G PROGRAM?

>> I SEE NO VALUE AT ALL FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM.

THE LARGEST CITY THAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR HAS APPROXIMATELY 43,000.

WE HAVE 1.3 MILLION IN DALLAS.

>> CHIEF, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, LIKE THE NPO UNITS AND THAT TYPE OF THING?

>> COUNCILMAN.

>> I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF OUR NPO PROGRAM.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALIZE AND I'M OUT.

I'M A PRESENT CHIEF.

I'M IN THE COMMUNITY.

I GO TO SO MANY DIFFERENT EVENTS, AND I GO TO EVENTS WHERE SOME OF THE MONEY IS REALLY HIGH, MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE IN THOSE MEETINGS.

SOME IT'S MORE OF THE LOWER SOCIAL ECONOMICS.

EVERYONE SAYS THE SAME THING.

WE JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP DALLAS SAFE CHIEF.

THE THING THAT IS SAID IN EVERY SINGLE MEETING I GO TO, PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY OUR MPO OFFICERS.

I DON'T CARE WHAT DISTRICT IT'S IN.

EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT THAT I'VE EVER BEEN TO ANY MEETING, PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY OUR NPO OFFICERS.

ONE THING THAT I DO IS I LISTEN TO THIS COMMUNITY.

I LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE MY DECISIONS.

>> IF WE WERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH WHICH OFFICERS WERE CERTIFIED 287 G OR JUST A REGULAR OFFICER?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD HAVE TO DO IS MAKE A DECISION WHERE I WOULD PULL THESE OFFICERS FROM.

THEY ONE THAT I GOT HIRED AND ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU TOLD ME THAT RESPONSE TIMES IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

WHAT YOU TELLING ME THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I LISTENED TO.

YOUR NPO OFFICERS PROBABLY WOULD BE THE FIRST PLACE THAT I WOULD PULL FROM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT

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DIRECTLY IMPACTING RESPONSE TIMES AS MUCH AS MY PATROL OFFICERS ARE.

THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT I WOULD HAVE TO REACH INTO AND SAY.

YOU'RE NOW GOING TO BE ICE IMMIGRATION OFFICERS.

IT IS NOT WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WANTS BECAUSE I'M LISTENING TO THEM.

THEY WANT MPO OFFICES HERE.

>> WILL YOU SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME BUILDING TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY? I KNOW OUR OFFICERS HAVE AS WELL, AND SO PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD ERODE TRUST PRETTY QUICKLY.

AT $25 MILLION, THERE'S NO WAY TO REGAIN THAT TRUST IF WE WERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM. IT SOUNDS LIKE.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.

>> RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

>> COUNCILMAN BACKMAN.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR GIVING US ALL THOSE STATS.

I KNOW THAT YOU AND YOUR COMMAND STAFF AND ALL THE RANK AND FILE HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO BRING OUR VIOLENT CRIME RATE DOWN, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PATROL EFFORTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

WHEN YOU READ ABOUT THE ICE 287G PROGRAM, AND THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT MODELS, I GUESS WE'RE ASSUMING THE TASKFORCE MODEL.

>> IT SAYS RIGHT HERE WITH OVERSIGHT DURING ROUTINE POLICE DUTIES.

DO YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS? IS THAT JUST LIKE AT A TRAFFIC STOP? LIKE WHAT IS ROUTINE POLICE DUTIES ENTAIL?

>> ICE CAN PROBABLY BETTER ANSWER THAT.

I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I FELT FROM THE CONVERSATION WAS, THAT EVERY OFFICER WE ASSIGNED FOR REIMBURSEMENT WOULD HAVE TO DO ICE DUTIES ALL THE TIME.

>> THEY WOULD ESSENTIALLY BECOME AN ICE AGENT, SO TO SPEAK?

>> WHICH MEANS THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING LIKE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH REDUCING CRIME, EVEN TRAFFIC CONTROL.

EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE STILL WORKING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, THEY'D BE TAKEN OFF THE DUTIES AS ASSIGNED BY YOU AS THE CHIEF?

>> I HAVE SO MANY THINGS HIGHLIGHTED.

RIGHT HERE. YOU SAID FEDERAL OVERSIGHT.

DOES THAT MEAN ONLY THE OFFICERS THAT ARE IN THE PROGRAM HAVE FEDERAL OVERSIGHT, OR DOES IT DO OVERSIGHT TO THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT SOMEWHAT?

>> NO, I WOULD THINK THE OFFICES UNDER THAT PROGRAM WOULD FALL ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.

>> THEN IN YOUR MEMO, THERE WAS AN OPERATIONAL CHANGE AWAY FROM OUR GOALS.

CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE? I MEAN, YOU'VE GIVEN US A LITTLE BIT THAT THE MPOS WOULD COME OFF, WHICH ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US HERE.

WOULD IT AFFECT THE EMP PROGRAMS? WHAT OTHER PROGRAMS WOULD IT AFFECT IF THIS WAS TO TAKE PLACE THAT I GUESS MORE, IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT.

>> I WOULD HAVE TO PULL OFFICERS FROM EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING PATROL.

THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR MOTOR UNITS, WHO'S DOING SO MUCH GREAT WORK RIGHT NOW, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE 40 DEATHS DOWN RIGHT NOW.

THE MOUNTED UNIT WHO'S DOING PHENOMENAL PATROL AND REDUCING CRIME.

THE FUGITIVE UNIT WHERE WE'RE REALLY TARGETING VIOLENT CRIMINALS.

WE'RE GOING AFTER THE WORST OF THE WORSE, AND WE'RE BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE IN MAKING THOSE ARRESTS.

I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OFFICERS FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS.

IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE KEEPING DALLAS AS SAFE AS WE ARE NOW.

>> THERE'S NO GUARANTEE, WE'D GET REIMBURSED.

>> WELL, YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET UNTIL YOU GET IT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> COUNCILMAN AMBERZIDUEL RECOGNIZE FOR TWO MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR YOUR WORK, FOR YOUR MEMO THAT'S VERY DETAILED, VERY TRANSPARENT, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR CITY AND REALLY GETTING TO KNOW THE RESIDENTS THAT WE'RE SERVING BECAUSE THE DECISIONS YOU'VE MADE, IS A CLEAR CORRELATION TO THE SENTIMENT THAT HAS BEEN SHARED TO ME FROM RESIDENTS ACROSS OUR CITY.

IN YOUR MEMO, YOU DISCUSSED SOME FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT WE HAVE, IN FACT, YOU ACTUALLY TOUTED AS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE MOST PROUD OF, WHICH RESULTED IN GREAT RESULTS.

>> YES SIR. THANK YOU.

FOR THOSE OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVEN'T SEEN IT, YEAR TO DATE, DPD OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO FEDERAL TASK FORCES HAVE SEIZED MORE THAN 1,600 KILOGRAMS OF METHAMPHETAMINE, ROUGHLY 100 KILOGRAMS OF COCAINE, 18 KILOGRAMS OF HEROIN, NEARLY 20 KILOGRAMS OF FENTANYL, AND SEIZED OVER 3,500 GUNS OFF OF OUR STREETS.

THOSE ARE RESULTS.

THOSE HAPPENED BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE VIABLE PROGRAMS AND PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAD.

WILL YOU TELL ME WHICH ONE OF THOSE PARTNERSHIPS THAT YOU NEEDED

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COUNCIL'S BLESSING TO ENTER INTO?

>> ZERO. IN THE HISTORY OF DPD AND I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH, DONE MY HOMEWORK.

I TRIED TO GO BACK.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW BECAUSE IT'S BEEN FRAMED THAT YOU STEPPED OUT OF YOUR LANE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE EXACTLY IN YOUR LANE, AND IT'S EXACTLY WHY WE HAVE YOU AT THE HELM OF THIS DEPARTMENT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU AND COMMEND YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE AND STRENGTH IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE SAME TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR PUTTING SOMEBODY IN THE POSITION TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR OUR CITY.

CLEARLY, IT'S MORE IN TOUCH WITH THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS THAN SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS IN OUR CITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I WILL BE BYPASSING MYSELF AS WELL AS CO CHAIR OF CHAIR MIDDLESON.

WE WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN AMMY LESENDENCY.

YOU HAVE RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

>> I ACTUALLY HAVE A POINT OF ORDER BEFORE MY TIME STARTS.

I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING ABOUT THE MEETING.

WE'RE ONLY GETTING TWO MINUTE ROUNDS, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

>> IF I SIMPLY WANTED TO THANK THE CHIEF FOR STANDING UP FOR OUR PEOPLE, OUR VALUES IN OUR CONSTITUTION, WOULD THAT ELIMINATE A ROUND FOR ME?

>> NO, I'M CONSIDERING GOING ONE MORE ROUND, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING TWO MINUTES TWO ROUNDS.

>> I THINK PASS THEN. I'LL GO AHEAD AND PASS.

>> CHESTUS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. CHAIR JOHNSON.

CHIEF COMO, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING SO MANY OF OUR QUESTIONS.

I DO WANT TO AFFIRM THAT YOU HAVE LISTENED TO US.

CRIME IS DOWN IN DISTRICT 10.

HOMICIDES ARE DOWN IN DISTRICT 10.

WE HAVE A NEW SENSE OF ENERGY WITH OUR NPOS BECAUSE OF SOME DECISIONS YOU'VE MADE.

YOU HAVE BEEN RESPONSIVE AND YOU HAVE LISTENED, AND I JUST WANTED TO AFFIRM THAT.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON ROUND TWO.

WHO KNOWS? MAYBE I'LL HAVE SOME MORE THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU AGAIN. SHORTLY AFTER THIS JOINT COMMITTEE MEETING WAS ANNOUNCED, I RECEIVED A CALL FROM A RETIRED POLICE CHIEF, NOT FROM DALLAS.

HE SHARED HOW HIS DEPARTMENT ONCE FACED A SERIOUS CRIME PROBLEM IN HIS CITY.

WHAT ULTIMATELY MADE THE DIFFERENCE, HE SAID WAS WHEN HIS OFFICERS TOOK THE TIME TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, WITH THE LATINO COMMUNITY THEY SERVED.

THE CHIEF EMPHASIZED, THAT WITHOUT THE RELATIONSHIPS AND THE TRUST THAT ENCOURAGED RESIDENTS TO SHARE, THE CRIME WOULD HAVE ONLY GOTTEN WORSE.

I'VE ALSO SEEN FIRSTHAND, HOW BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES CAN HAVE A POWERFUL IMPACT ON REDUCING CRIME.

OUR SROS, OUR NPOS, AND OUR PALS PROGRAM DO REMARKABLE WORK, CONNECTING OUR DPD OFFICERS WITH STUDENTS AND WITH RESIDENTS.

THROUGH THESE FRIENDSHIPS, THEY FOSTER TRUST, AND HELP BREAK DOWN FEAR AND STEREOTYPES, REMINDING US TO SEE EACH OTHER AS INDIVIDUALS, AS PEOPLE.

THESE EXPERIENCES ALIGN WITH CHIEF COMO'S MEMO, WHICH EMPHASIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY POLICING.

SORRY. TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC TRUST.

HE EXPRESSES CONCERN THAT REASSIGNING OFFICERS UNDER FEDERAL OVERSIGHT WOULD UNDERMINE THE TRUST THAT DPD HAS WORKED SO DILIGENTLY TO BUILD.

CHIEF COMO, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I STAND WITH YOU ON THIS DECISION.

ON THE DECISION, ON THE REASONING BEHIND THE DECISION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> CHIEF GRACIE, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO START WITH MY QUESTION FIRST.

I THOUGHT WE WAS GOING INTO OUR SPEECHES FIRST ROUND, MAN.

BUT I'M GOING TO START WITH THE QUESTION FIRST.

MAYBE DIRECTOR RUBY TOWARDS THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL.

BUT IN OUR GENERAL DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS, JUST FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, THIS WOULDN'T BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN A PROCUREMENT DECISION FOR YOUR OFFICE.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU NEEDED TO PROCURE WIDGETS OR SOMEBODY HAD A GRANT THAT SAID THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THESE WIDGETS FOR WHATEVER YOUR DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS ARE, THAT'S A DECISION WITHIN INTERNALLY THAT YOU WOULD MAKE WHETHER OR NOT YOU NEEDED THOSE WIDGETS AT THIS TIME, OR WHATEVER THE CASE.

I'M TRYING TO JUST PROCESS JUST FROM A DECISION BECAUSE THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS SHOULD HAVE COME TO CITY COUNCIL, AND I'M TRYING TO MAKE THE POINT, ASIDE FROM THE SERVICE THAT WAS BEING OFFERED,

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THIS IS GENERALLY A PROCUREMENT DECISION.

I WANT TO START THERE AND SAY, I GUESS, CITY MANAGER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED.

THIS IS NO DIFFERENCE THEN. PLEASE COMPLETE MY THOUGHT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE.

THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF A DAY, A WEEK, OR A MONTH, WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT OPERATIONAL NEEDS WITH ACROSS THE CITY, NOT ONLY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

OFTENTIMES, WE ARE THINGS ARE PITCHED TO US.

WE KNOW ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES, WHETHER IT'S GRANT APPLICATIONS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER.

WHEN THE DECISION IS THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO, IT COMES BEFORE THE BODY.

WE BELIEVE THAT IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN AGENDA ITEM.

WHICH WOULD HAVE GIVEN THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE AUTHORITY TO DECIDE IF THAT'S REIMBURSEMENT, AND THIS PROGRAM IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO UNDERTAKE.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A FINAL DECISION HERE WE HAVE THE BODY TO DO SO.

BUT OVERALL DAY TO DAY, OPERATIONAL DECISIONS ARE MADE, AND IT'S DONE AS MY RESPONSIBILITY AS THE CITY MANAGER.

>> THANK YOU. THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE THERE IS THAT REGARDLESS OF THE CONTROVERSY BEHIND IT.

THIS WAS A DAY TO DAY OPERATIONAL DECISION THAT COMES ACROSS THE DESK OF LEADERS LIKE CHIEF COMO, LEADERS LIKE CITY MANAGER TOBERT.

THESE ARE DECISIONS THAT COME ACROSS, THEY HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY EVERY DAY.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT DECISION AND DOING WHAT YOU DID.

LASTLY, I'LL SAY THIS BEFORE I CLOSE.

I WANT TO THANK THE DPD OFFICERS THROUGH ALL OF THESE TRANSITIONS, WHETHER IT'S STNU, WHETHER IT'S A NEW POLICE CHIEF.

YOU GUYS HAVE PERSEVERED THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

I'VE WATCHED ALL, WHEN IT WAS IN I GO, AND I'VE WATCHED HOW YOU ALL TRANSITION.

CHIEF COMO, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND HOW YOU TRANSITION INTO THIS AND MAKING THE TOUGH DECISIONS TO CONTINUE TO LEAD IN A WAY THAT MOVES DPD FORWARD.

I'LL STOP AND WAIT FOR MY SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> COUNSEL BRAN, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR TWO MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.

CHIEF COMO, I THINK I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION.

AFTER A NEW OFFICER HAS COMPLETED THEIR 10 MONTHS OF TRAINING IN SESSION TRAINING, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU TRAIN THEM IN THE CAR WITH A SEASONED OFFICER BEFORE YOU LET THEM GO ALL ON THEIR OWN,.

>> TWENTY FOUR.

>> AFTER THAT 10 MONTH TRAINING, THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 24 MORE WEEKS OF TRAINING WHERE THEY'RE RIDING WITH A SENIOR PARTNER TO GET THEM READY TO GO OFF BY THEMSELVES.

>> THAT'S ANOTHER SIX MONTHS?

>> ACTUALLY, IT'S OVER A YEAR BEFORE AN OFFICER IS HIRED, BEGINS TRAINING, AND IS READY TO ACTUALLY GO OUT ON THE FIELD ON THEIR OWN AND BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS THEY NEED TO BE, CORRECT?

>> IF WE NEED TO TAKE 200, SAY 200 OFFICERS AND CHANGE THEIR DIRECTION.

WE WOULD STRUGGLE AND I'M HEARING YOU SAYING THAT WE WOULD STRUGGLE WITH OUR CALL TIMES NOW THAT THEY'RE DOWN, CORRECT? THEN IT WOULD TAKE US ANOTHER YEAR OR MORE IN ORDER TO STILL BE UNDERWATER, IS THAT CORRECT?

IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO MAKE MY STATEMENT.

>> LET ME SAY THIS.

TOOK ME A LONG TIME BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT 287 G IS, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU HAD THE KNOWLEDGE YOU DID COME FROM FEDERAL.

YOU DO KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THINKING OF A CITY THAT YOU JUST CAME TO, BUT I KNOW THAT YOU LOVE. THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR MIDDLESON, NEED.

>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO JUST START RIGHT OFF WITH QUESTIONS.

CAN YOU SPECIFICALLY TELL US WHAT OUR OFFICERS WOULD DO DIFFERENTLY IF WE WERE PART OF THIS PROGRAM?

>> THEY WOULD HAVE TO ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS DURING THEIR SHIFT.

THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

>> I'M ASKING WOULD ALL OF THEIR NORMAL DUTIES GO AWAY, OR WOULD IT BE THE SAME DUTIES, EXCEPT THEY WOULD ADD THAT ON?

>> YES. WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME, THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD ARREST APPROXIMATELY WELL, WE WOULD ARREST 50 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS PER DAY IN ORDER TO REACH THE REIMBURSEMENT.

SO YES, THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK GOING TO MCDONALD'S, BURGER KING, HOME DEPOT, TRYING TO FIND ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO REACH THAT QUOTA.

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>> YOU'RE TELLING US THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT DAY TO DAY LIFE IF WE ACCEPTED THIS PROGRAM?

>> OKAY. YOUR STATEMENT, YOU TALKED ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES, WHICH ARE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR OUR CITY, AND WE'RE NOT MEETING THE GOALS THAT WE ESTABLISHED.

THIS IS TRUE. BUT IF WE WERE, DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS PROGRAM?

>> NO, IT WOULD NOT.

>> WHY OR WHY NOT?

>> BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, VIOLENT CRIME IS GOING DOWN.

ACCIDENT DEATHS ARE GOING DOWN, HOMICIDES ARE DOWN.

RECRUITING IS SKYROCKETING.

THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REALLY HIGH.

WOULD NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO STOP ANY OF THAT MOMENTUM ON ANY OF THOSE FRONTS.

RIGHT NOW, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WHAT RIGHT LOOKS LIKE.

>> WELL, I GUESS MY POINT IS THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S BECAUSE OUR RESPONSE TIMES ARE HIGH, THAT YOU'RE SAYING THIS ISN'T RIGHT FOR DALLAS.

I THINK REGARDLESS OF WHERE RESPONSE TIMES ARE, YOU WOULD HAVE THE SAME OPINION, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THE RESPONSE TIMES DOES PLAY A PART IN THAT.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.

YOU JUST CAN'T LOOK AT ONE THING.

IT WOULD BE ME LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.

YOU'RE RIGHT, I STILL FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE IN DALLAS, AND ALL OF THE MEETINGS THAT I GO TO, AND I GO TO A WHOLE LOT, A WHOLE LOT OF MEETINGS.

IT IS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS IS A DECISION THAT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD HAVE MADE.

>> BUT YOUR DECISION POINT ISN'T ABOUT THE RESPONSE TIMES, IT'S ABOUT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU THINK THE COMMUNITY WOULD WANT, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THE RESPONSE TIME PLAYS A PART INTO THE DECISION MAKING.

IT ABSOLUTELY PLAYS A PART INTO THE DECISION MAKING, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN CHALLENGED TO DO IS MAKE RESPONSE TIMES GO DOWN.

I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT RESPONSE TIMES HAS GONE DOWN EVERY SINGLE MONTH SINCE I'VE GOTTEN HERE.

>> OKAY. WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THEY'RE SO OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH.

MAYBE WE CAN ONLY GO DOWN, BUT YES, DPD IS DOING A GREAT JOB.

LET ME GO TO THIS QUESTION OF WHOSE DECISION IT WAS TO MAKE.

WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER.

THEN WE HAVE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ARTIST SITTING IN FACT BEHIND YOU, AND THEN YOU'RE IN THE NEXT ROLE, WHICH WE WOULD GENERALLY CALL A DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS FOR CHIEF ARTIST OUR CITY MANAGER, DO WE HAVE OTHER CITY MANAGERS THAT ARE ACCEPTING OR REJECTING $25 MILLION WITHOUT COUNSEL?

>> WELL, I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU FROM VPD. OH.

>> I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A $25 MILLION DECISION WITHOUT US? IT'S A GOVERNANCE QUESTION, REALLY.

>> CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION, PLEASE?

>> SURE. THE QUESTION IS, WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER.

WE HAVE AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND A POLICE CHIEF, WHICH AND ALL THE OTHER HIERARCHIES WOULD MAKE HIM A DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

MY QUESTION IS, IF WE HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS THAT ARE MAKING A DECISION THAT'S VALUED AT $25 MILLION, WHICH IS HOW I'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND IT, ACCEPTING OR REJECTING IT WITHOUT INPUT FROM COUNSEL?

>> I'LL JUST REMIND YOU THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY IS MY RESPONSIBILITY AS THE CITY MANAGER.

THE CHIEF DID NOT MAKE THIS DECISION WITHOUT MY AWARENESS AND APPROVAL.

BASED ON OUR CHAIN OF COMMAND, IT IS SOMETHING THAT I KNEW ABOUT.

I SUPPORTED, AND I AGREED.

>> GREAT. WHO ELSE DID YOU CONTACT BEFORE MAKING THIS DECISION?

>> I TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE ON THE COMMAND STAFF.

I TALKED TO OTHER MENTORS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.

I EVEN TALKED TO FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, AND I CAME TAKING ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT I HAD AND MADE THE DECISION.

>> WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE THE INPUT YOU RECEIVED FROM ALL OF THESE AS A UNANIMOUS REJECTION OF IT, OR WAS THERE SOME DISSENT?

>> IT WAS UNANIMOUS.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MENDELSON.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO OUR SECOND ROUND.

WE'RE GOING TO START FROM OUR RIGHT THIS TIME BACK TO OUR LEFT, SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR.

YOU HAVE RECOGNIZED THE 2 MINUTES. SECOND ROUND. THANK YOU.

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>> CHIEF COMO, IF WE WERE TO HAVE ACCEPTED THIS CHALLENGE, THEN WHAT WOULD IT HAVE DONE TO OUR COMMUNITIES? WE STILL COULD YOU ENVISION AND I KNOW IT'S A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION, BUT ENVISION WHAT ARE RESIDENTS WHO AREN'T FROM HERE? WOULD DO. WOULD THEY STILL BE LIVING THEIR LIFE THE WAY THEY DO?

>> THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME SITTING AS THE CHIEF.

I WANT TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE.

I WANT TO MAKE ALL DECISIONS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE.

WHEN THINGS HAPPEN, WE NEED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE CONTACTED.

WE WANT TO BE THERE TO SERVE EVERYONE.

WE WANT EVERYONE THAT'S HERE TO BE ABLE TO CALL US, AND WE WANT TO BE THERE TO PROTECT EVERYONE.

I THINK WE'RE DOING A FINE JOB OF DOING THAT RIGHT NOW, AND I WANT TO CONTINUE THAT.

I FEEL ACCEPTING THIS WOULD TAKE AWAY SOME OF THAT TRUST THAT'S THERE BETWEEN DALLAS AND IT'S NOT JUST FROM THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

IT'S FROM RESIDENTS, IS FROM CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE ALSO.

RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TRUST AT A HIGH LEVEL, AND I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE THAT.

>> WELL, AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

BUT IN DISTRICT 8, I HAVE LARGE, I HAVE A VERY DIVERSE DISTRICT, AND IT'S A DISTRICT THAT HAS A LOT OF THOSE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ILLEGAL ALIENS OR ILLEGAL RESIDENTS.

LET ME SAY IT. BUT I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE, PERSONALLY TRYING TO REPRESENT A COMMUNITY THAT'S AFRAID TO COME OUT, AFRAID TO SPEAK, AFRAID.

AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN'T PUT ME NOR ANY OTHER AREA OF THE CITY IN THAT TYPE OF PREDICAMENT.

IT'S NOT JUST ONE COMMUNITY THAT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE AMERICAN.

BUT IT PUTS A LOT OF DISTRICTS THAT HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T LOOK AMERICAN IN HARM'S WAY.

WHEN PEOPLE THINK THAT IT'S JUST ONE, IT'S NOT. IT'S MANY.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU WANT UNITY AND NOT DIVISION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I'LL SAY TO THAT.

WE WANT UNITY, WE WANT EVERYONE TO CALL US.

BUT I'M HERE AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR.

WE'RE BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE AGAINST VIOLENT CRIMINALS, THOSE WITH FELONY WARRANTS, THOSE THAT HAVE WARRANTS FOR THEIR ARREST.

WE'RE BEING VERY AGGRESSIVE IN GETTING THEM OFF THE STREETS TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE IN DALLAS.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S SAFE.

>> COUNCILMAN GRACIE, RECOGNIZE TWO MINUTE SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WROTE DOWN A LOT OF COMMENTS FROM THIS MORNING FROM A LOT OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS, JUST SO I CAN, MY BRAIN THINKS IN WAYS TO TRY TO FIND PATTERNS, AND THE ONES THAT WE KEPT HEARING MOST CONSISTENTLY WAS BROKEN TRUST, ERODES TRUST, PUBLIC TRUST, IN MY FAVORITE, A HORRIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF PUBLIC TRUST.

THAT WAS PROBABLY THE MOST PROFOUND STATEMENT THERE.

I ENDED THIS BY SAYING, I WANT TO THANK DPD FOR HOW WELL YOU GUYS HAVE TRANSITIONED.

I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF, AGAIN, FROM A NEW CHIEF TO A NEW DIRECTION TO ALL OF THESE THINGS, NEW POSITIONS FOR MANY OF THEM, AND YOU ALL HAVE TRANSITIONED WELL AND NOT JUST IN YOUR PERSONAL ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT HOW YOU TRANSITION IN AND AROUND THE CITY OF DALLAS.

COMMUNITY RELATIONS CONTINUES TO IMPROVE.

PUBLIC SAFETY, CRIME IS DOWN, 13% IN DISTRICT 3.

WE'VE WORKED HARD.

EVEN IN REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE YOU'RE ON ON THE STNU PROPOSITIONS, WE'VE MANAGED TO MEET ALL OF THOSE GOALS AS WELL.

AGAIN, THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING, YOU SAID IT, DPD IS THE STANDARD IN TERMS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT POLICING LOOKS LIKE.

TO MAKE A DECISION TO FOLLOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS WILL ERODE ALL OF THAT PUBLIC TRUST AND ALL OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I'M SAYING IT ON THE RECORD THAT I AM NOT SUPPORTING THIS 287G AT ALL.

ONE, BECAUSE OF THE SUCCESS THAT YOU ALL HAVE HAD, AND I DON'T WANT TO DISRUPT THAT, AND I DON'T WANT TO THROW A GRENADE OR A LAND MINE IN THE MIDDLE OF SUCCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE, BOTH IN RECRUITING A IN THE SALARIES.

ONE THING WE HAVEN'T HEARD, AND I'LL END HERE IS WE HAVEN'T HEARD WHAT THE OFFICERS WOULD WANT,

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IF THEY WOULD EVEN WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, BECAUSE THAT CREATES AN ADDITIONAL STRESS ON THEM.

FOR ALL OF US WHO'VE BEEN SAYING, WE LOVE OUR OFFICERS, AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS, DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS DOES NOT SUPPORT OUR OFFICERS FROM A PERSONAL, EMOTIONAL, AND MENTALLY, IT JUST ADDS ADDITIONAL STRESS, WHICH IS ONLY GOING TO FURTHER DISRUPT THE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THE PUBLIC TRUST. THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILWOMAN STEWART, YOU RECOGNIZE, 2 MINUTES SECOND AROUND.

>> JUST A BRIEF RECAP.

CHIEF COMO, BASED ON YOUR MEMO, THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS, BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, UNDERSTANDING HOW IMPORTANT TRUST IS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

I FULLY SUPPORT YOUR DECISION ON THE 287G ISSUE, AND APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN ACENDEZ.

>> I'D STILL LIKE TO CONTINUE RESERVING MY TIME.

>> YES, LATER.

COUNCILMAN BAZIDIL, YOU RECOGNIZE 2 MINUTES SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU. FIRST, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, I KNOW IT MAY BE SEMANTICS TO SOME, BUT I AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT THERE IS NO HUMAN THAT IS ILLEGAL.

THERE'S A LOT OF TERMS THAT HAVE BEEN UTILIZED THAT HAS DIMINISHED THOSE RESIDENTS HERE, AND WE SHOULD BE VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE WORDS THAT WE USE.

ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'VE SEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ONE'S DUE PROCESS HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THEIR RIGHT AS SOMEONE IN THIS COUNTRY.

HOW MANY OFFICERS DO YOU HAVE ASSISTING FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FOR TERRORISM OR ESPIONAGE?

>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY ON THAT QUESTION, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 70 OFFICERS THAT ARE CONSIDERED TASK FORCE OFFICERS IN VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS OR AGENCIES THROUGHOUT, AND IT MIGHT BE GANG UNITS, PNI, WHICH IS PART OF OUR CRIME PLAN, PSN.

WE JUST ADDED SOME TASK FORCE OFFICERS TO AN OVERDOSE GROUP.

TO DEA HIDTA, WHICH WAS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, I FELT FROM WHAT I WAS HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I'M EXTREMELY PROUD TO SAY, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST WEEK OR THE SECOND WEEK OF US PUTTING SOME DPD OFFICERS IN THAT FEDERAL TASK FORCE.

WE WERE ABLE TO ARREST SOMEONE WHO WAS SELLING POISON ON THE STREET OF FENTANYL, WHO COMMITTED A DEATH BY AN OVERDOSE.

WE SUCCESSFULLY ARRESTED THAT INDIVIDUAL.

A LOT OF THE FEDERAL TASK FORCE ARE REALLY GOOD FOR THE CITY.

WE'RE PUTTING OUR RESOURCES IN THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY GOOD.

THIS IS WHY I ASK EVERYONE IN DALLAS TO TRUST ME.

I KNOW THE FEDERAL SYSTEM.

I WAS THERE FOR APPROXIMATELY 28 YEARS, AND I RAN SOME OF THE BIGGEST OFFICES.

I RAN THE BIGGEST OFFICE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH DEA, AND I KNOW WHAT SYSTEMS ARE GOOD ON THE FEDERAL SIDE.

>> THANK YOU CHIEF. I DO TRUST YOU, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE.

I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE AND YOU HELPED SEGUE IT VERY WELL, WHICH IS THAT THERE IS A LOCAL PURPOSE FOR THESE PARTNERSHIPS.

THE RESOURCES THAT YOU'VE DEVOTED TO OTHER TASK FORCES HAVE RESULTED IN A TANDEM OF GOALS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR DEPARTMENT WITH OR WITHOUT THE TASK FORCES, BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO LEVERAGE THE OTHER RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS.

IS THAT ACCURATE TO SAY?

>> VERY ACCURATE.

>> OKAY. WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE A PURPOSE WOULD BE FOR US UTILIZING RESOURCES OF OUR DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY FOR IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT ALONE, NOT ABOUT IF THEY HAVE CRIMINAL HISTORY, ET CETERA, BUT DEVOTING OFFICERS TO THAT EFFORT, WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE THERE TO BE A BENEFIT TO OUR CITY?

>> I THINK, LET ME ANSWER IT THIS WAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS, HSI HAS A LANE, AND THEY HAVE AN IMPORTANT LANE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ILLEGAL TRAFFICKING, HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

WE HAVE MEMBERS THAT WILL WORK WITH HSI ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

I HAVE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT STAY ON ME AND THEY WANT ME TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M FOCUSING ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

IT'S IMPORTANT. WE WILL HAVE OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO TASK FORCE LIKE THAT BECAUSE NO ONE SHOULD BE TRAFFICKED ILLEGALLY.

WE WILL PARTICIPATE, COOPERATE AND HELP IN OPERATIONS LIKE THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE DEALING WITH JUST GOING TO MCDONALD'S AND BURGER KING AND HOME DEPOT.

IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF.

>> COUNCILWOMAN, LAURA.

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YOU RECOGNIZE TWO MINUTES SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU. CHIEF, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I FULLY SUPPORT YOU.

AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, OUR GREATEST RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ACT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE WE SERVE.

MY COMMUNITY SUPPORTS YOU.

THEY'VE E MAILED ME.

SINCE THIS DISCUSSION, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT MY GRANDMOTHER WHO WAS BORN IN LAREDO, TEXAS.

SHE LIVED IN A TIME WHEN LA MIGRA PICKED UP ANYONE WHO WAS BROWN.

AS A CHILD, SHE WAS TERRIFIED OF THESE RAIDS AND WOULD HIDE UNDER THE TABLE.

YET HERE WE ARE IN 2025, STILL FACING THE SAME CHALLENGES CREATED BY THE 287G PROGRAM.

THIS POLICY HAS INSTILLED FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE AFRAID THAT ANY INTERACTION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT COULD PUT THEIR FAMILY AT RISK, THEY STOP REPORTING CRIMES.

THEY DON'T ATTEND COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND THEY WON'T COLLABORATE WITH OFFICERS.

THAT BREAKS THE BOND WE'VE WORKED SO HARD TO BUILD BETWEEN OUR RESIDENTS AND THE POLICE WHO SERVE THEM.

FOR MY GRANDMOTHER, THAT FEAR LASTED A LIFETIME.

MY PRIORITY WILL ALWAYS BE TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION TO BUILD A DALLAS WHERE SAFETY AND TRUST GO HAND IN HAND.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT ABOUT FEAR, IT'S ABOUT PARTNERSHIP AND RESPECT.

OUR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS OUR SUPPORT, NOT ADDITIONAL STRAIN OR CONFUSION.

WE MUST FOCUS ON HELPING OUR OFFICERS RESPOND QUICKLY, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, AND EARN TRUST IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THEY SERVE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR LISTENING TO OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKING THE DECISION THAT'S BEST FOR DALLAS.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, YOU RECOGNIZE, TWO MINUTES SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU. THIS IS REALLY AN EDUCATION SESSION FOR US ALSO TO LEARN AND TO TRY TO HELP MAKE A GOOD DECISION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SB4 AND SB8, WHICH IS THE STATE LAWS THAT IMPOSE SOME RESPONSIBILITIES ON THE CITY FOR CERTAIN ACTIONS.

I REALLY AM ASKING THE QUESTION MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MIGHT BE THE CORRECT GROUP TO ASK THIS OF.

BUT WHAT SPECIFICALLY MUST DALLAS DO AS A CITY IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THOSE STATE LAWS? I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS OUR OBLIGATION AS A CITY UNDER THOSE STATE LAWS.

>> I WOULD DEFER THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEYS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, TAMMY PALOMINO, CITY ATTORNEY.

COULD YOU ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN? I DON'T THINK WE QUITE HEARD IT.

>> I WAS WANTING TO ASK WHAT DALLAS NEEDS TO DO IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW SB4 AND SB8, AND TO WHAT EXTENT WE HAD SOME RESPONSIBILITIES AS A CITY UNDER THOSE TWO LAWS.

>> SBA WAS PASSED IN ONE OF THE SPECIAL SESSIONS, AND SBA DOES NOT APPLY TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT APPLIES TO COUNTIES WITH POPULATIONS OVER 100,000.

THEY'RE REQUIRED TO WORK WITH ICE.

THE CITY IS NOT PART OF THAT.

IT'S NOT REGULATED BY IT.

THE SB4, THERE ARE TWO, BUT THE ONE I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO, AND THIS IS PAVEL ARMSTRONG.

SHE ADVISES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THROUGH MY OFFICE, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TAG TEAM.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, SECTION 752053, AND THAT WAS PASSED, I BELIEVE, IN 2017, AND IT REQUIRES THAT A LOCAL ENTITY, MEANING THE CITY OF DALLAS, MAY NOT ADOPT ENFORCE OR ENDORSE A POLICY THAT PROHIBITS OR MATERIALLY LIMITS ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAWS.

IT ALSO REQUIRES A LOCAL ENTITY TO ASSIST WITH REASONABLE REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES.

THAT'S A VERY QUICK SUMMARY OF IT. DO YOU WANT TO ADD?

>> RELATIVE TO MY CONCERN THAT ANY CIVIL ENFORCEMENT OF THIS POLICY MIGHT PRODUCE LAWSUITS FOR THE CITY.

TO WHAT EXTENT DOES THE CITY WOULD THEY HAVE GENERAL LIABILITY FOR ANY CIVIL ACTIONS IN THIS RESPECT.

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>> WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

>> WE CANNOT HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT IT.

>> I'M SORRY. TO WHAT EXTENT WOULD THE CITY OF DALLAS HAVE ANY CIVIL OR OTHER LIABILITY FOR ENFORCEMENT OF ANY ICE RIGHTS OR ACTIVITIES THAT WE MIGHT BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO?

>> IT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN ACTING IN THEIR NORMAL COURSE.

THEY STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IMPOSED BY THE 287 G PROGRAM ON THE CITY THAT WE'RE UNDER AN OBLIGATION TO PARTICIPATE IN?

>> NO.

>> I'M SORRY. I'LL HAVE TO DEFER.

I REALLY DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT.

IF THE FEDERAL AGENCY IS HERE, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZE TWO MINUTES, SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. CHIEF, I WANT TO GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE QUOTAS THAT WOULD COME WITH ANY AGREEMENT.

IF THE QUOTAS WERE NOT MET, WOULD THAT MEAN THAT THOSE FUNDS WOULD NOT BE RECEIVED OR?

>> WE HAD NO WRITTEN AGREEMENT, SO I DIDN'T SEE IT ON PAPER.

BUT WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME WAS THE EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD REACH 50 ARRESTS PER DAY IN ORDER TO MEET THE FULL REIMBURSEMENT.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG THE PROCESS WOULD BE FOR AN OFFICER TO POTENTIALLY ARREST, DETAIN SOMEONE? HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE AN OFFICER OFF THE STREET IN ORDER TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESSING AND BOOKING.

>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S NOT A SHORT PROCESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TRANSPORT, TAKE THEM TO JAIL, YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE WHILE THEY'RE BOOKED.

I CAN'T PUT AN EXACT TIME ON, AND I THINK IT WOULD VARY FROM DAY TO DAY OR MAYBE EVEN HOUR TO HOUR DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLES BEING ARRESTED THAT DAY.

BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE THEM OFF OF THE STREETS OF DALLAS.

>> OKAY. CAN YOU TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRAM ON ETHOS AND WHAT THAT'S DESIGNED TO DO?

>> WITH OUR NPO OFFICES, ESSENTIALLY? TO CONTINUE TO BUILD TRUSTS.

IT'S THERE TO BUILD TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY.

>> THEN, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE FOR OTHER AGENCIES THAT COME FORWARD. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZE TWO MINUTES SECOND ROUND.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IN LOOKING AT THE SPEAKERS LIST TODAY, THIS MAY BE THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN SPEAKERS FROM EVERY DISTRICT REPRESENTED ON AN ISSUE.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME TO CITY HALL AND TO PUT FACES ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.

I WANT TO THANK JANETTE MORRISON LANE FOR SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY OF VICKERY MEADOW, AND NOTING THAT THEY JUST WANT THREE THINGS.

THAT'S TO EARN A LIVING, TO FEEL SAFE, AND TO FEEL PROTECTED.

WHEN I HEAR FROM RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT 13 THAT I REPRESENT, THEIR PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS ARE MOSTLY ABOUT SPEEDING AND RUNNING OF RED LIGHTS, BOTH OF WHICH ARE AGAINST THE LAW.

THEY'RE ILLEGAL. THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT POLICE RESPONSE TIMES TO THEIR 911 CALLS ARE IN NORMATIVE RANGE.

RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE NOT.

THEY WANT THEM TO BE FASTER.

CHIEF COMO AND HIS TEAM WANT THEM TO BE FASTER.

WE ALL WANT TO LIVE IN A SAFE CITY, AND THE IMPRESSIVE WORK DONE BY DPD TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME IN DALLAS IS A TRAJECTORY THAT NEEDS CONTINUED ATTENTION TO SUSTAIN AND IT SHOULD NOT BE DILUTED.

WHAT CHIEF COMO HAS OUTLINED IN HIS MEMO THAT HAS A SUBJECT LINE OF COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY IS IN LINE WITH ADHERING TO THE GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN OUTLINED BY THE CITY MANAGER AND BY THIS COUNCIL, AND THEY ARE IN LINE WITH THE GOALS OF THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT.

THIS IS ABOUT DPD OPERATIONS, AND I SUPPORT CHIEF COMO'S DECISION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

COUNCILMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZE TWO MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. CHIEF, WHAT IMPACT WOULD A 287 G AGREEMENT HAVE ON DPDS ABILITY TO RESPOND TO EXTREME CONDITIONS, NATURAL DISASTERS, TERRORIST ATTACK, MASS SHOOTINGS.

>> WELL, IT GOES AGAIN, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OFFICERS FROM SOMEWHERE IN ORDER

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TO GANG THAT MONEY TO GET REIMBURSED ON NO SALARY.

ANYTIME WE WOULD TAKE ANY AMOUNT OF OFFICERS AWAY, IT'S GOING TO ALWAYS SLOW DOWN RESPONSE TIMES TO SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.

>> DO YOU CONSIDER THAT TO BE A LIKELY RESULT OF ENTERING INTO A 287 G AGREEMENT IN THE EVENT OF THOSE KINDS OF EXTREME CONDITIONS?

>> ONE-HUNDRED PERCENT, I DO.

>> WELL, I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS HERE TODAY WHO TOOK THE TIME TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.

I THOUGHT IT IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND A FRANK AND TRANSPARENT DISCUSSION BY MY CITY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES OF THIS ISSUE.

I AM OPPOSED TO SUPPORTING ANY PROGRAM THAT WOULD DETRACT FROM OUR OFFICERS MISSION TO UPHOLD PUBLIC SAFETY AND RESPONSE TO PUBLIC EMERGENCY FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND TO MAINTAIN PUBLIC TRUST.

THE NOTION OF ENTERING INTO A 287 G AGREEMENT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR DALLAS.

I WILL NOT SUPPORT DIVERTING LOCAL RESOURCES TOWARD THIS APPROACH TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

I APPLAUD YOU, CHIEF FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE ALREADY DONE HERE IN DALLAS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MEANS A LOT.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN RIDLEY.

CHAIR MIDDLESON, YOU RECOGNIZE TWO MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION IS ACTUALLY FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

DO YOU THINK THERE'S CLARITY ABOUT IF IT SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT HAVE COME OR IF IT'S CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS PARTICIPATION?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT IS A LEGAL QUESTION.

I BELIEVE THIS IS A DISCUSSION AMONGST COUNSEL AND THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL AND POLICY ROLES, SO I'M GOING TO DECLINE TO ANSWER THAT.

>> OKAY. I GUESS, CHIEF, MY QUESTION, AND WHY I KEEP GOING BACK TO WHOSE ROLE IT IS, IS WHAT IF YOU HAD DECIDED TO ACCEPT AND JOIN THE PROGRAM, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL DIDN'T WANT THAT? THAT YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE MADE THE DECISION THAT THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL AGREES WITH IS ONE THING.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF IT WASN'T THAT WAY? I FEEL LIKE THAT DECISION DID NOT RESIDE WITH YOU.

I COULD BE WRONG AND ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES COULD DISAGREE WITH ME.

BUT I'M GOING TO SAY I THINK THIS IS REALLY A POLICY QUESTION, AND I WOULD ALSO SAY, THIS PUBLIC DISCUSSION WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING IF THE MAYOR DIDN'T BOUNCE IT BACK TO COUNCIL.

FRANKLY, IF YOU HAD NOT SAID THAT AT THE COMMUNITY OVERSIGHT BOARD, WE WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN KNOWN.

I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING.

THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN.

NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAD A PUBLIC AIRING.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF GOVERNANCE IS THAT WE DO DISCUSS THIS PUBLICLY, THAT THE PEOPLE DO HAVE A CHANCE TO COME AND TALK TO US AND GIVE THEIR INPUT.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE.

WE WANT TO HEAR THEIR OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS, WHETHER WE AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE LITERALLY SITTING IN THE SEAT.

I CAN SEE THAT OUR CITY MANAGER IS EAGER TO SPEAK.

IF YOU WANT TO INTERRUPT ME, I STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

>> WELL, I WAS NOT PLANNING TO INTERRUPT.

I WANTED TO KNOW WAS THERE A QUESTION THAT YOU WANTED TO DIRECT TO ME.

IF THIS CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO SET A POLICY THAT DEALS WITH OPERATIONAL DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE THAT NEED TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY, THEN I WOULD WELCOME THAT POLICY DIRECTION, BUT THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY HOW WE OPERATE.

I TRULY RESPECT THE NEED FOR THE PUBLIC DEBATE, BUT WE HAVE, OFTENTIMES, NOT JUST DURING MY TENURE, BUT EVEN BEFORE, THERE ARE A LOT OF DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE OPERATIONALLY AROUND GRANTS, REIMBURSEMENTS, PROGRAMS. IF WE FELT THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WARRANTED FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL, IT WOULD COME IN THE FORM OF THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, OR YOU WOULD THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.

IT WOULD BE A POSTED ITEM.

AT THAT TIME, COUNSEL COULD DECLINE OR AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD AND RECEIVE THAT FUNDING.

SO IT WOULD HAVE COME IF THERE WAS A REQUEST TO RECEIVE THE DOLLARS.

BUT THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, IF THAT WAS A QUESTION.

>> CHIEF, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAS DPD TURNED OVER TO ICE OR ARRESTED FOR IMMIGRATION ISSUES?

>> I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT DPD HAS DIRECTLY TURNED OVER TO ICE.

WHAT WE DO AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR MANY OF YEARS.

IF WE ARREST ANYONE, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE IF WE ARREST SOMEONE FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WE TAKE THEM TO THE COUNTY, AND THEN THE COUNTY WILL DO WHAT THE COUNTY DOES,

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AND IF THE COUNTY REALIZES THAT THEY'RE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, THEN YOU HAVE TO TALK TO THE COUNTY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS FROM THERE.

BUT IT'S NOT DPD PRACTICE TO ARREST ANYONE THAT'S AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.

>> THANK YOU CHIEF COMEAUX.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

YOU SAID, WE WAS TALKING ABOUT RESPONSE TIME IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

I'VE HEARD YOU SAY THIS MORNING THAT IT WOULD AFFECT OUR RESPONSE TIME, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE MADE IT KNOWN, ESPECIALLY IN MY DISTRICT THAT IS A HIGH CONCERN ABOUT RESPONSE TIME.

IF WE PARTICIPATE IN THIS PARTICULAR, IN 287(G), WHAT DOES THAT REALLY LOOK LIKE IN REAL TIME RESPONSE TIME? WHAT WILL BE MEETING OUR PRIORITY ONES? WE WILL BE MEETING OUR PRIORITY TWOS? HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT US AS A CITIZEN IN THE CITY OF DALLAS?

>> I THINK OVERALL, RESPONSE TIMES WOULD GO UP BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY OFFICERS ON THE STREET WORKING JUST 911 CALL TAKERS, 911 CALLS THAT ARE COMING IN.

SO IT WOULD DEFINITELY HURT US.

I'M HAPPY THAT THE NUMBER IS TRENDING DOWNWARD RIGHT NOW.

NOW, I WANTED TO TREND DOWNWARD FASTER, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

WE JUST RECENTLY IMPLEMENTED A COUPLE OF THINGS WHERE I THINK EVERYONE IN DALLAS IS GOING TO BE REALLY HAPPY.

I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT WE'RE HERE.

LAST WEEK, WE PUT IN SOME PROGRAMS AND IN SOME AREAS, RESPONSE TIMES WENT DOWN BY AN HOUR, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF THAT STICKS.

WE WANTED TO GO A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

I WANT TO GET A 60-DAY WINDOW TO SEE IF THESE NEW THINGS THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING IS GOING TO WORK LONG TERM.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU, THERE'S NOT A DAY OR A WEEK THAT GOES BY WHERE WE'RE NOT SITTING DOWN AS AN EXECUTIVE TEAM, WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BE BETTER AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE MEN AND WOMEN OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE REALLY GOOD.

YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE.

>> YOU SAID EARLIER THAT IF WE PARTICIPATE IN THE 287(G) PROGRAM, YOU MUST ARREST 50 IMMIGRANTS PER DAY.

THEN YOU ALSO SAID, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT YOU WILL ALSO HAVE TO PULL OFFICERS FROM COMMUNITIES, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE THE POLICE PRESENCE THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE VOTERS ASKED FOR AS WELL.

IS THAT CORRECT? CAN YOU ELABORATE MORE ON THE 50 IMMIGRANTS PER DAY ARREST AND HOW THAT WILL REALLY AFFECT OUR COMMUNITIES.

>> YES. WHEN I HAD THE CALL, IT WAS TOLD TO ME THAT THE EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ARREST 50 IMMIGRANTS A DAY.

AS FAR AS PULLING, WHERE WE WOULD PULL FROM, I WOULD HAVE TO PUT NPO OFFICES ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING TO CALLS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

SO I WOULD WANT TO PULL FROM AN AREA THAT WOULD NOT AFFECT RESPONSE TIMES AS MUCH.

SO THAT'S ONE PROGRAM THAT I WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO PULL FROM IMMEDIATELY.

THAT IS A PROGRAM THAT I KNOW IN EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT IS LOVED.

THAT'S WHY I'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE WILL NOT PULL THAT PROGRAM IN DALLAS, EVEN THOUGH MANY OTHER MAJOR CITIES ARE PULLING THAT PROGRAM AND HAVE PULLED THAT PROGRAM FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

I WILL NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN IN DALLAS AS LONG AS I'M THE CHIEF OF POLICE BECAUSE I SEE HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS.

>> THANK YOU, CHIEF COMEAUX.

AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS.

WE'RE ASKING NOW, REPRESENTATIVE FROM ICE IF THEY WILL COME FORWARD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON.

COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, AND OF COURSE, WHO YOU REPRESENT.

ALSO, YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN SOME QUESTIONS EARLIER.

IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND EXPOUND ON THAT WAS PROBABLY SENT EARLIER BEFORE YOU GOT HERE.

SO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M OFFICER FRANCIS.

I AM AN ASSISTANT FIELD OFFICE DIRECTOR WITH THE ICE FIELD OFFICE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS OFFICER IVEY.

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I AM THE 287(G) PROGRAM MANAGER FOR ICE.

>> THANK YOU. YOU MAY BEGIN YOUR STATEMENT.

>> SURE. AS AN ASSISTANT FIELD OFFICE DIRECTOR, [OVERLAPPING]

>> COULD YOU JUST MOVE THAT MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> SURE, ABSOLUTELY. AS AN ASSISTANT FIELD OFFICE DIRECTOR OVER THE 287(G) PROGRAM, SPECIFICALLY THE TASKFORCE MODEL, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE SOME GENERIC QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PROGRAM.

MY GOAL HERE TODAY IS TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY.

RIGHT OFF THE BAT, I WILL SAY, I'LL START WITH THE NAME, 287(G).

WHY DO WE CALL THIS 287(G)? SPECIFICALLY, 287(G) REFERS TO THE SECTION OF THE LAW OF THE I&A THAT AUTHORIZES OUR STATES AND LOCAL PARTNERS TO PERFORM DELEGATED IMMIGRATION AUTHORITY UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF AN ICE OFFICER.

THIS ONE QUESTION THAT CAME UP QUITE A FEW TIME DURING MY TIME HERE, AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS ON THE FRONT END, IF I MAY.

WHY WOULD A DPD OFFICER DO DIFFERENTLY IF THEY JOINED THE PROGRAM? ESSENTIALLY, A DPD OFFICER WILL CONTINUE TO PERFORM THE NORMAL DUTIES.

IF AT ANY POINT, DOING THE DUTIES BASED ON THE TRAINING THAT THEY RECEIVE, IF THEY HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON WHO WAS THERE IN VIOLATIONS OF THE I&A, THEN THAT OFFICER WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE AN ARREST AND TRANSPORT THESE INDIVIDUALS.

IF I CAN, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO WHAT THE TASKFORCE MODEL IS.

ESSENTIALLY, IT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN A TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT COULD BE A POLICE CHIEF OR A SHERIFF OR HERE IN TEXAS WITH DPS, THAT WILL BE THE COMMISSIONER.

WE DEFER TO THAT AGENCY TO RECEIVE APPROPRIATE CONCURRENCE FROM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S AN INTERNAL PROCESS.

THE AGREEMENT MAY NEED TO BE REVIEWED BY THE COUNSEL OR THE COMMISSIONERS' CODE.

SO WE USUALLY DEFER TO THAT AGENCY TO GET THE PROPER CONCURRENCE BEFORE THEY ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH US.

AGAIN, I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

I WILL SAY ON THE FRONT END, THAT I BELIEVE THE INTERACTION THAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO DID NOT INVOLVE ANY MEMBERS FROM THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE.

BUT IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, WE WANTED TO BE HERE AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THAT'S ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS, BECAUSE I THINK LIKE THERE MAY BE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING REGARDING THE PROGRAM.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, I WAS IN OKLAHOMA WHERE WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH A STATE PARTNER, SPECIFICALLY THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

DURING MY TIME THERE, A SIMPLE TRAFFIC STOP.

THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN BY DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR DUTY.

A SIMPLE TRAFFIC STOP CONDUCTED BY A STATE TROOPER RESULTED IN THE APPREHENSION OF AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS THE SUBJECT TO INTERPOLATE NOTICE.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THAT MEANS THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS WANTED BY A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT, BASED ON THE COUNTRY WHERE THEY'RE FROM.

THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN BY DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR DUTY.

THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT COME TO OUR ATTENTION.

THAT'S WHY WE RELY ON OUR STATE AND LOCAL PARTNERS TO ASSIST US.

>> THANK YOU. WE WILL HAVE TWO ROUNDS, TWO MINUTES, AND THEN AFTERWARDS, WE FINISH QUESTION NIGHTS THAT I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR OUR COLLEAGUES TO HAVE A FOUR-MINUTE ROUND TO MAKE A STATEMENT.

AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO START FROM MY RIGHT, GOING TO MY LEFT.

WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR FOR TWO MINUTES, FIRST ROUND.

>> YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T QUITE GET YOUR NAME.

>> SURE. I'M OFFICER FRANCIS, ASSISTANT FIELD OFFICE DIRECTOR WITH ICE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE.

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>> OFFICER FRANCIS?

>> THANK YOU, OFFICER FRANCIS.

WHEN YOU SAID THAT DURING THE COURSE OF ICE OPERATIONS, IF DALLAS, DPD POLICE OFFICER WAS ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM, THEY WOULD CONTINUE DOING THEIR NORMAL DAY TO DAY ACTIVITY?

>> YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

>> BUT WHEN I READ 287(G), IT SAID QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WHAT IS IN THE DOCUMENT READS THAT AN OFFICER THAT PARTICIPATES IN 287(G) WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FULLY OPERATE AS A FEDERAL ICE OFFICER AND NOT IN THE NORMAL LINE OF DUTY AS A DPD OFFICER? CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S WRITTEN ONE WAY AND YOUR STATEMENT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

>> SURE. SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU REVIEWED.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT BASED ON THE MOA, A DPD OFFICER, BASED ON THE CURRENT DUTIES, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, SAY A PATROL OFFICER OR AN OFFICER THAT IS ASSIGNED TO A FUGITIVE UNIT, IF THEY WERE CREDENTIAL, THEY WILL CONDUCT THEIR DAILY OPERATIONS AS ASSIGNED BY DPD.

NOW, DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR DUTY, BASED ON THE TRAINING THAT THEY RECEIVED, IF THEY HAD PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT AN INDIVIDUAL HAS VIOLATED IMMIGRATION LAWS, AT THAT POINT, THEY WILL HAVE THE DELEGATED AUTHORITY TO ARREST THAT INDIVIDUAL FOR IMMIGRATION PURPOSES.

>> SO THEN, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

SO WHEN WOULD AN OFFICER KNOW THAT THEY ARE WORKING IN LINE WITH ICE OPPOSED TO DOING THEIR NORMAL DUTIES IF IT COULD SWITCH BACK AND FORTH SO EASILY?

>> AGAIN, APOLOGIES IF I'M NOT CLEAR ENOUGH.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE BASED ON WHAT HAPPENED IN EASTERN OKLAHOMA LAST WEEK.

THE TROOPER WAS A CREDENTIAL OFFICER, MEANING HE HAD THE DELEGATED AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

DURING HIS TRAFFIC STOPS, HE HAD PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAD VIOLATED IMMIGRATION LAWS.

I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC STOP IS PART OF HIS REGULAR DUTIES.

SO AT THAT POINT, THE OFFICER WILL NEED TO CONTACT AN ICE OFFICER TO RECEIVE CONFIRMATION.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE TOTALITY OF CIRCUMSTANCES BASED ON THE TRAINING THAT HE RECEIVED, EVERY ENCOUNTER IS DIFFERENT.

DURING THAT SPECIFIC ENCOUNTER, BASED ON HIS TRAINING, HE HAD PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON HAD VIOLATED IMMIGRATION LAWS.

AS I SAID, THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN BY ASSISTANCE FROM OUR STATE AND LOCAL PARTNER.

THAT SPECIFIC TRAFFIC STOP RESULTED IN THE APPREHENSION OF AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS THE SUBJECT TO IN [INAUDIBLE] NOTICE.

>> WELL, TO ME, THAT SOUNDS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE THAT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT OUR OFFICERS DO ALREADY.

SO IF THAT'S WHAT OUR OFFICERS DO ALREADY, WHY WOULD WE NEED TO CHANGE OR MANIPULATE HOW THEY OPERATE TO BE A ICE AGENCY OPPOSED TO REGULAR AGENT.

BY THE WAY, HOW LONG DO YOU TRAIN OFFICERS TO DO THE ICE FUNCTIONS?

>> SO THERE ARE SEVERAL MODELS.

UNDER THE 287(G) PROGRAMS, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TASKFORCE MODEL, I BELIEVE THEY RECEIVE ABOUT 40 HOURS.

>> COUNCILMAN, GRACIE, DO YOU RECOGNIZE TWO MINUTES FIRST ROUND.

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>> THANK YOU. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION, TOO, WAS THE TRAINING.

HOW MUCH TIME YOU SAY THEY SPEND 40 HOURS TRAINING THE OFFICERS?

>> THAT IS ACCURATE, YES.

>> SO ARE THOSE OFFICERS REQUIRED TO GO SOMEWHERE AND TRAIN?

>> SPECIFICALLY, WITH THE TASKFORCE MODEL.

THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ATTEND THE ACADEMY AT [OVERLAPPING].

>> WELL, LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY.

WHAT IS THE TRAINING PROCESS, AND ARE THEY REQUIRED TO GO AWAY FOR A CERTAIN TIME TO TRAIN, OR IS IT AN ONLINE TRAINING? WHAT IS THE ACTUAL TRAINING THAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE TO HELP THEM BALANCE BOTH DOING THEIR POLICE JOB AND THIS ICE JOB AND MEETING THESE QUOTAS?

>> THE TRAINING THAT IS CURRENTLY PROVIDED, I BELIEVE IT ONLINE.

>> SO ONLINE TRAINING THERE.

THEN, NOW, IS IT TRUE, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

IN ORDER TO GET THE REIMBURSEMENT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO, I GUESS, DETAIN WHAT? HOW MANY? IS THERE A QUOTA ASSOCIATED WITH THE REIMBURSEMENT? BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING THAT.

>> I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY QUOTA.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE SPECIFIC CONVERSATION THAT INVOLVED THE CHIEF.

AGAIN, THAT CONVERSATION DID NOT TAKE PLACE.

>> I'M JUST TALKING IN GENERAL. YOU REFERENCE. OKLAHOMA.

>> SURE, I'LL GET INTO THAT. WHEN IT COMES TO THE REIMBURSEMENTS, SOME OF THE INCENTIVE THAT WE PROVIDE FOR ALL THE AGENCIES THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM, FOR ANY OFFICER, WE PROVIDE $7,500 TOWARDS PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT.

THAT IS NOT REIMBURSED. YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THAT IS UPFRONT, AS LONG AS YOU ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM AND OPERATIONAL.

I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. SAY YOU HAD 1,000 OFFICERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAMS, THEN ICE WOULD CUT YOUR CHECK FOR 7.5 MILLION TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF YOUR EQUIPMENT.

AGAIN, THAT IS NOT REIMBURSED.

WHILE WE HAVE THE FUNDS, WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING [OVERLAPPING]

>> THAT INITIAL CHECK THAT YOU JUST CUT, WAS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE 25 MILLION OR WHATEVER IS BEING FLOATED AROUND? IS THAT ABOVE AND BEYOND, OR IS THAT A PART OF THAT 25 MILLION?

>> I'M NOT REAL SURE WHERE THAT $25 MILLION AMOUNT CAME FROM.

>>> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND POSITION. I'M SORRY.

MY NAME IS FERN IVY.

I'M A 287(G) PROGRAM MANAGER WITH ICE.

THE REIMBURSEMENT PIECE, SO THE INITIAL WHEN OFFICERS ARE TRAINED AND CREDENTIALED, THE AGENCY THAT THEY WORK FOR RECEIVE $7,500 PER CREDENTIAL TO OFFICER THAT IS TRAINED.

THAT IS A PAYMENT THAT'S MADE THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED A REIMBURSEMENT THAT IS PAID AT THE TIME OR I CAN'T SAY AT THE TIME SPECIFICALLY, BUT AFTER THEY ARE TRAINED AND HAVE MADE THEIR FIRST ARREST, WHICH MAKES THAT PROGRAM THEN ACTIVE.

THEN THEY ARE GIVEN UP TO $100,000 TOWARDS VEHICLES.

IT'S NOT SPECIFIC.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO PURCHASE VEHICLES, BUT THEY CAN USE IT FOR FUEL OR?

>> THEY BEING THE OFFICER.

>> THEN THE AGENCY.

>> THE AGENCY.

>> IT WOULD BE DPD, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE REIMBURSEMENT PIECE, THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THAT POOL OF MONEY.

THE REIMBURSEMENT IS TO GO TOWARDS THE AGENCY.

ALL OF THIS IS PAID OUT TO THE AGENCY, NOT TO THE OFFICER.

THE AGENCY THEN GETS REIMBURSED FOR ANY TIME THAT THE OFFICER SPENDS DOING IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES, WHETHER THAT IS FROM THAT TIME OF ARREST, DURING, AND THEN TRANSPORTING THE BODY OVER TO THE ICE OFFICE AND DROPPING THEM OFF, AND THEN GOING BACK TO THEIR NORMAL DUTIES.

>> LAST QUESTION, AND YOU SAID IT A COUPLE OF TIMES.

IN A CIRCUMSTANCE LIKE THIS YOU MENTIONED OKLAHOMA, I'LL MENTION THAT JUST CAUSE I WAS BORN IN THAT STATE, AND I'VE HAVE AN INTERESTING EXPERIENCE IN THAT STATE.

BUT YOU USED THE TERM PROBABLE CAUSE A COUPLE OF TIMES.

HOW IS AN OFFICER IN A REGULAR STOP? WHAT DOES PROBABLE CAUSE LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF BEING AN ICE AGENT? HOW DO THEY TRANSITION FROM BEING I STOPPED HIM FOR PROBABLE CAUSE OR HER FOR PROBABLE CAUSE AS A DPD OFFICER,

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AND NOW THROUGH THIS INTERACTION, WHAT DOES PROBABLE CAUSE FROM AN ICE AGENT LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO THEY TRANSITION PUT THAT HAT ON?

>> I'M NOT PREPARED TO GET INTO THE TRAINING ASPECT OF IT AS A ASSISTANT FIELD OFFICE DIRECTOR.

BUT I WILL SAY PROBABLE CAUSE IT'S THE TOTALITY OF CIRCUMSTANCES, SO BASED ON THAT ENCOUNTER.

I COULD START WITH FOLLOWING DOCUMENTS.

LIKE, WHATEVER HAPPENED DURING THAT TRAFFIC STOP LEADS THE OFFICER TO BELIEVE THAT, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING GOING ON HERE, AND THEY WILL INVESTIGATE A LITTLE FURTHER.

THEY WILL CONTACT ICE.

ICE WILL RUN ADDITIONAL CHECKS, AND ONCE IT IS CONFIRMED THAT THE PERSON IS, IN FACT, IN VIOLATION OF IMMIGRATION LAWS, THEN ICE WILL GIVE THE GREEN LIGHT.

THE OFFICER WILL NEVER BE ON THEIR OWN.

THEY UNDER ICE SUPERVISION.

THEY WILL NEVER TAKE ANYBODY INTO CUSTODY UNLESS ICE IS GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT.

>> THE INITIAL CONFRONTATION IS BASED ON THE TRAINING THAT THEY RECEIVED ONLINE.

>> THANK YOU. CHER STEWART. YOU RECOGNIZE TWO MINUTES FIRST ROUND.

>> THAT'S OKAY. I'M GOING TO PICK UP WITH THE STOP IN OKLAHOMA AS WELL.

SO YOU SAID THE ARREST WAS MADE BASED ON AN INTERPOL WARNING, SOME TYPE OF WARRANT THAT CAME UP, I GUESS, WHEN THEY DID A BACKGROUND CHECK.

IS THAT WHAT THEY DID? LIKE, TAKE THEIR LICENSE OR TAKE THEIR NAME, OR SOMEHOW HE WENT BACK TO HIS CAR AND DID SOME TYPE OF RESEARCH.

HOW DID THE OFFICER KNOW THAT THIS PERSON WAS WANTED BY INTERPOL?

>> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, AND I'M HAPPY TO CLARIFY.

THE ARREST WAS NOT MADE BASED ON THE INTERPOL RIGHT NOTICE.

THE ARREST WAS MADE BASED ON THE FACT THAT DURING THAT ENCOUNTER, WE HAD PROBABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON WAS HERE IN VIOLATION OF IMMIGRATION LAWS.

FURTHER DOWN THE LINE, IT WAS REVEALED THAT THIS PERSON HAD IN FACT AN INTERPOL RIGHT NOTICE.

SIMPLE TRAFFIC STOP, ENDED UP IN AN INTERPOL RIGHT NOTICE.

>> I THINK WHAT'S CONCERNING US IS HOW ARE YOU FINDING PROBABLE CAUSE FOR AN IMMIGRATION STOP BASED ON THE WAY SOMEONE IS DRIVING? WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS IT THAT CATCHES AN OFFICER'S EYE? REGISTRATION ON THE CAR? THAT'S NOT AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE? SPEEDING. THAT'S NOT AN IMMIGRATION ISSUE.

WHAT IS THAT?

>> I'LL DEFER TO MY PARTNER WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED WITH THE TRAINING ASPECT.

AGAIN, HERE AT DALLAS FIELD OFFICE, WE DO NOT OVERSEE THE TRAINING ASPECTS, SO I'M NOT PREPARED TO GET INTO THOSE SPECIFICS.

>> WITH THE PROBABLE CAUSE, WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS THE PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THE TRAFFIC STOP?

>> BUT THERE'S BEEN A SUGGESTION THAT IT WAS HIS TRAINING AS AN IMMIGRATION OFFICER THAT SOMEHOW HE SPOTTED SOMEONE WHO NEEDED TO BE PULLED OVER.

>> IN CORRECT? THE PERSON WAS PULLED OVER DUE TO A NORMAL TRAFFIC STOP IN THAT OFFICER'S NORMAL LINE OF DUTIES WHETHER IT WAS FOR SPEEDING, FOLLOWING TOO CLOSE, WHATEVER, THAT'S THE PROBABLE CAUSE THAT THEY HAD.

WHEN THAT PERSON DOESN'T HAVE IDENTIFICATION OR HANDS OVER A FOREIGN PASSPORT OR A FOREIGN DRIVER'S LICENSE.

THEN THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT QUESTION.

>> UNDERSTAND.

>> THAT'S THE PROBABLE CAUSE THAT THEY GET TO AS FAR AS ONCE THE TRAFFIC STOP HAPPENS, THEY'RE NOT PULLING THEM OVER FOR IMMIGRATION PURPOSES.

THEY'RE PULLING THEM OVER FOR WHATEVER TRAFFIC VIOLATION THAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I STRUGGLE WITH THAT.

I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT, AND I'LL COME BACK ON THE NEXT ROUND ON THAT.

>> CHURCH STEWART. COUNCILMAN RECINDA. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. GREAT LINE OF QUESTIONING.

THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN HEARING.

BUT BEFORE I ASK MY QUESTIONS, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOMETHING PERSONAL.

I'M HERE TODAY AS THE SON OF TWO FORMERLY UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS WHO WERE DEPORTED FROM THIS COUNTRY.

I'M ALSO A WAR VETERAN, AND BOTH OF MY PARENTS HAD TO SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE FOR ME TO JOIN THE ARMY BECAUSE I WAS 17 YEARS OLD, SO I NEEDED SOME ADULTS TO DO THAT.

I'M ALSO A GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SCHOOL OF LAW, AND A PUBLIC SERVANT WHO'S SPENT NEARLY A DECADE ADVOCATING FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT RAISED ME.

THE IRONY OF SITTING ACROSS FROM ICE OFFICIALS TODAY IS NOT LOST ON ME.

BUT IT'S ALSO NOT LOST ON ME THAT OUR DUTY HERE IS TO PROTECT THE VALUES THAT MAKE CITIES LIKE DALLAS STRONG, TRUST, DIGNITY, AND THE BELIEF THAT EVERY RESIDENT DESERVES TO LIVE WITHOUT FEAR.

THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, DO IMMIGRANTS,

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REGARDLESS OF STATUS, HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS UNDER THE FOURTH AND FIFTH AMENDMENT?

>> RESPECTFULLY, I'M HERE TO SPEAK REGARDING THE 287(G) TASKFORCE PROGRAM.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'M NOT AUTHORIZED TO DEVIATE OR GET OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE, RESPECTFULLY.

>> I UNDERSTAND. I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS IF THE CITY OF DALLAS IS SUPPOSED TO BE PARTNERING WITH A FEDERAL AGENCY.

HOW DOES ICE ENSURE THAT ITS AGENTS ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND AND APPLY CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES IN THE FIELD?

>> WE GO THROUGH SEVERAL ROUNDS OF TRAINING EVERY YEAR, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ABIDE BY THE LAW.

>> HOW DOES ICE MEASURE SUCCESS BEYOND ARREST NUMBERS? FOR EXAMPLE, DO Y'ALL TRACK THE EFFECTS OF ENFORCEMENT ON COMMUNITY TRUST, LABOR MARKETS, OR FAMILY STABILITY?

>> AGAIN, SO I CAN'T STATE THIS ENOUGH.

I'M HERE VOLUNTARILY, JUST TO SPEAK TO THE 287(G) PROGRAM, SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUTSIDE OF THAT, I WON'T BE ABLE TO YOU.

>> I KNOW I UNDERSTAND, SIR.

>> TO ME, I JUST THINK THESE ARE REALLY RELEVANT TO THE 287(G) PROGRAM AND WHETHER OR NOT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD PARTNER AND JOIN THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT.

IF THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS PUBLIC SAFETY, HOW DO YOU DEFINE PUBLIC SAFETY?

>> I GAVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE OKLAHOMA IS JUST AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE I HAPPEN TO BE OUT THERE, BUT I BELIEVE WHEN YOU REMOVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IS WANTED FOR A CRIME COMMITTED IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF REMOVING SOMEBODY FROM THE STREETS AND ENSURING PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> I ALSO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, SAFETY MEANS BEING ABLE TO WORK WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING MISIDENTIFIED.

WOULD ANY DALLAS OFFICERS DEPUTIZED UNDER THE 287(G) PROGRAM BE REQUIRED TO WEAR MASKS?

>> NO, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO.

>> THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD SEND A MESSAGE TO THE CHILDREN OF OUR CITY THAT THEIR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TO BE FEARED RATHER THAN TRUSTED.

HOW WILL ICE ENSURE THAT SEND.

>> COMMISSIONER MIDDDLESON COME AND TAKE AROUND [INAUDIBLE].

COUNCIL AMBASSADOR, YOU RECOGNIZED CHAIR MIDDLESON IS GOING TO WAIT TO GO LATER. YOU RECOGNIZE THIS.

>> I'LL WAIT UNTIL AFTER CHAIR MIDDLESON.

>> THANK YOU, AND THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH TOPIC TO TALK ABOUT.

I GUESS FROM YOUR WEBSITE, AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

IT SAYS REALLY TO ENHANCED COLLABORATION WITH STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS TO PROTECT THE HOMELAND THROUGH THE ARREST AND REMOVAL OF ALIENS WHO UNDERMINE THE SAFETY OF OUR N'S COMMUNITY.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT UNDERMINE THE SAFETY OF OUR NATION COMMUNITIES MEAN?

>> AGAIN, I'LL USE AN EXAMPLE OF A TRAFFIC STOP, FOR INSTANCE, DURING A TRAFFIC STOP, YOU COME ACROSS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT.

>> EXCUSE ME, SIR. CAN YOU SPEAK UP INTO THE MIC? I KNOW IT'S LOW. I'LL PROBABLY PULL A LITTLE CLOSER.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE SOME WATER?

>> SURE.

>> CAN WE GET SOMEONE TO GET YOU SOME WATER, PLEASE?

>> WOULD YOU LIKE SOME TOO, MA'AM?

>> THANK YOU. IF YOU DID PULL IT CLOSER, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. THANK YOU.

>> SURE. ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS PULLED OVER ON A TRAFFIC STOP, BUT YOU HAVE NO LOCAL CHARGES ON THAT INDIVIDUAL, SO THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKED INTO A COUNTY JAIL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A LOCAL CHARGE.

BUT DURING THAT ENCOUNTER, AND YOU FIND OUT THAT THE PERSON PREVIOUSLY WAS DEPORTED A FEW TIMES OR HAVE ADDITIONAL CRIMINAL HISTORY, AND THEY ALSO HAPPEN TO BE ILLEGAL.

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THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN BY UNDERMINING PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> BUT THEN THERE IS A REPORT THAT BASICALLY SAYS 65% OF THE PEOPLE TAKEN BY ICE HAD NO CONVICTIONS, AND THEN 93% HAD NO VIOLENT CONVICTIONS, AND THAT'S A KATO INSTITUTE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU'RE STOPPING INDIVIDUALS AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE TAKING THEM IF THEY HAVE SOME ISSUES ON THEIR SHEET.

BUT THEN THERE'S A REPORT THAT'S BASICALLY SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE.

I'M TRYING TO BALANCE THAT OUT, BECAUSE AS YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD, WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN TRUST WITH OUR COMMUNITIES, IN ORDER TO KEEP OUR CRIME LEVELS DOWN.

CAN YOU HELP ME MARRY THAT?

>> NO. SURE, I UNDERSTAND, SO WHILE WE AIM FOR THOSE PUBLIC SAFETY THREATS, IF WE COME ACROSS YOU I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE IT CLEAR THAT ACE IS NOT GOING TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY.

IF WE COME ACROSS YOU AND YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE VIOLATED IMMIGRATION LAWS, THEN YOU MIGHT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE SUBJECT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR? BUT IF YOU COME ACROSS YOU, I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION IS MATING CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY.

IF THE REPORT SHOWS THAT THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THOSE CRIMES, THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS IT CAN POTENTIALLY HAPPEN.

>> IT APPEARS THAT THE MAJORITY OF TEXAS LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTS.

VERY FEW ARE PUBLIC POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY DO YOU HAVE ANY RATIONALE OF WHY MOST SHERIFFS DEPARTMENTS ARE PART OF THE PROGRAM, BUT YET POLICE DEPARTMENTS AREN'T?

>> I DO NOT HAVE ANY DATA THAT SUPPORTS THAT WE HAVE MORE SHERIFFS WITHIN BOUNDED PROGRAM.

>> THEN BASICALLY, YOU SAID THAT YOU DO THE TRAINING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT BECOME PART OF THIS PROGRAM, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> NOT ME SPECIFICALLY, BUT SOME MEMBERS OF THE 287(G) DIVISION OVER OUR HEADQUARTERS, I BELIEVE THEY OVERSEE THE PROGRAM.

>> THEN WE'RE REIMBURSED FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET REIMBURSED? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE REIMBURSEMENT PERIOD IS?

>> AS FAR AS THE INITIAL PAYMENT, I HAD SOME AGENCIES THAT WERE PAID WITHIN 48 HOURS FOR THE $7,500 PER CREDENTIALED OFFICER, AND THEN THE 100,000 TOWARDS VEHICLES.

BUT AS FAR AS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE IS, AND I'VE ALSO HAD SOME AGENCIES THAT HAVE WAITED LONGER.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, WE'RE GOING TO BACK UP AND GO TO COUNCILMAN BASADO.

>> THANK YOU. HOW MANY JURISDICTIONS HAVE ENTERED AND THEN REVOKED THE PARTNERSHIP WITH 287(G)?

>> I DO NOT HAVE THE OTHER STATISTICS AVAILABLE.

>> I WOULD SAY THAT THAT AGREEMENT CAN BE TERMINATED BY EITHER PARTY AT ANY TIME, BUT I DO NOT KNOW HOW MANY.

>> I KNOW WE HAVE SOME LOCAL THAT HAVE DONE IT BECAUSE IT WASN'T ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THEIR CITY.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WERE GOING TO COME PREPARED TODAY'S MEETING.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT OF OUR CONSTITUTION IS?

>> SIR, RESPECTFULLY.

>> SIR, RESPECTFULLY, A PART OF THE 287(G) AGREEMENT IS TO FACILITATE OUR CONSTITUTION.

I'M ASKING WHAT YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT OF OUR CONSTITUTION IS.

>> I'M NOT PREPARED TO DISCUSS ANYTHING.

>> ABOUT OUR 14TH AMENDMENT.

>> NOTHING ELSE TO ADD SO.

>> WHERE ARE YOU FROM, SIR?

>> I DON'T SEE THAT'S RELEVANT TO THE SPECIFIC TO THE SCOPE OF.

>> WELL, I THINK THAT YOU PROBABLY WERE AFFORDED DUE PROCESS THAT'S AFFORDED TO YOU BECAUSE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT OF OUR CONSTITUTION.

>> POINT OF ORDER.

>> YES

>> IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS CONVERSATION. IT'S JUST NOT.

>> CAN WE PLEASE STAY ON THE 28070?

>> I AM. I BELIEVE IT TO BE APPROPRIATE.

>> I THINK IS PERSONAL.

>> PLEASE JUST ASK A QUESTION FOR [INAUDIBLE].

>> I THINK THERE'S SOME IRONY HERE, AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S DUE PROCESS THAT HAS BEEN AFFORDED TO INDIVIDUALS ACROSS OUR COUNTRY.

I THINK THAT THAT'S A HUGE REASON WHY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD NOT BE ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAW, ESPECIALLY WITH STATISTICS THAT MS. BLACKMAN JUST MENTIONED THAT YOU ALL ARE ACTIVELY DEPORTING IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE NOT VIOLATED THE LAW.

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IF YOU HAVE NO INTERPRETATION OF OUR CONSTITUTION, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SIT HERE AND SELL US TO A PROGRAM THAT HAS WREAKED HAVOC ACROSS OUR COUNTRY AND HAS VIOLATED PEOPLE'S CONSTITUTION ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, LAURA.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE STOP.

IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE AT A STOP, DO THEY HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM AN ICE SUPERVISOR?

>> TO BE TAKEN INTO CUSTODY FOR IMMIGRATION PURPOSES, THEY DO NEED APPROVAL FROM A ICE OFFICIAL, NOT NECESSARILY A SUPERVISOR, BUT AN ICE OFFICIAL.

>> HOW LONG DOES THAT USUALLY TAKE?

>> LIKE IN THE STATES OF IN THE DALLAS AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY, WE HAVE A 24 HOUR OPERATED COMMAND CENTER.

GENERALLY, THE OFFICER WOULD CALL OUR COMMAND CENTER.

THERE WILL BE AN OFFICER ON THE OTHER LINE THAT WILL RESPOND TO THE CALL.

THEY WILL RUN ADDITIONAL CHECKS, AND IT WILL GO FROM THERE.

>> THEN ONCE APPROVED, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE TIME DOES IT TAKE TO TRANSPORT SOMEONE?

>> IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHERE THE PERSON IS BEING TRANSPORTED TO.

I'LL USE DALLAS AS AN EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE A FIELD OFFICE THAT IS ABOUT SEVEN MILES DOWN THE STREET.

IF THEY WERE TO TAKE THEM TO THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE, IT TOOK ME 15 MINUTES TO GET A EIGHTY DAYS FROM THE OFFICE.

>> WHERE WOULD THE SECOND CLOSEST LOCATION BE?

>> THE SECOND CLOSE LOCATION WOULD BE IN ALVARADO, TEXAS.

>> HOW FAR AWAY IS THAT?

>> I'M NOT NECESSARILY FROM THE AREA MYSELF, BUT IT'S TAKEN ME ABOUT 45 MINUTES FROM DALLAS TO GET TO ALVARADO.

>> THE OFFICER WOULD HAVE TO TRANSPORT THEM TO THAT LOCATION?

>> YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

AT THAT POINT, THEY ARE CONDUCTED IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT AND THAT TIME WILL BE REIMBURSED BECAUSE THEY ARE PERFORMING IMMIGRATION DUTIES.

>> THAT WOULD BE ABOUT TWO HOURS FOR THEM JUST TO DRIVE OVER THERE.

WHAT ABOUT THE ACTUAL INTAKE TIME?

>> THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED AS WELL.

>> WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED TAKE TIME? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DRIVE IS ABOUT 45 MINUTES.

WHAT'S THE USUAL AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THAT TAKES?

>> I DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY.

I WOULD SAY IT IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT.

IT'S [INAUDIBLE] FOR ME TO, GIVE YOU AN EXACT ANSWER, AND I APOLOGIZE.

>> IT WOULD TAKE ONE OF OUR DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS PERHAPS TWO HOURS OR MORE, MOST LIKELY MORE TO PROCESS SOMEONE IF THEY HAD TO GO TO THE SECOND LOCATION.

>> I THINK THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.

>> EARLIER, ONE OF YOU SAID THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHERE THE 25 MILLION AMOUNT CAME FROM.

IS THERE A CITY WHO HAS RECEIVED THAT MUCH, OR WHAT IS THE AVERAGE, I GUESS, EITHER FOR ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS?

>> I BELIEVE MY PARTNER MAY HAVE SOME FIGURES THERE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> NO, I DON'T HAVE THOSE STATISTICS WITH US.

I JUST KNOW ANY AGENCY THAT HAS SIGNED UP, EVERY CREDENTIALED OFFICER GOT 70 NOT THE OFFICER, THE AGENCY GOT $7,500 PLUS THE 100,000 TOWARDS THE VEHICLES.

AS FAR AS DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT AGENCIES HAVE RECEIVED, I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THIS $25 MILLION NUMBER CAME FROM.

THEN AM I CLEAR TO SAY THAT A RESIDENT WOULD NOT KNOW WHO WAS ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM OR NOT.

SAY A RESIDENT SEE ONE OFFICER THAT'S GONE THROUGH THE TRAINING AND ONE THAT HAS NOT.

THEY CAN'T NOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE BY JUST LOOKING AT THE OFFICER.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. THE OFFICER WOULD HAVE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS AN OFFICER WHO HAVE RECEIVED DELEGATED AUTHORITY TO PERFORM IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

>> BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO OR WOULD THEY?

>> THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.

>>AS CERTIFIED WITH THE ICE PROGRAM?

>> THAT IS CORRECT, YES. THEY RECEIVE ICE CREDENTIALS.

TO ME THAT THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES HERE THAT POTENTIALLY ARE INVOLVED.

>> COUNSEL ROTH.

>> THANK YOU. IT SEEMS

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ONE IS BASICALLY STOPPING FOLKS FOR A POTENTIAL OFFENSE, AND THEN DETERMINING THEIR STATUS.

IS THERE ALSO A DIFFERENT TASK OF ACTUALLY ACTING ON WARRANTS AND ACTUALLY GOING TO SERVE PEOPLE THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES ALREADY IS PART OF THIS ACTIVITY?

>> I BELIEVE THERE MAY BE SOME ONGOING CONVERSION.

HOWEVER, AT MY LEVEL, I DO NOT HAVE THOSE DETAILS.

>> I'VE BEEN TOLD THERE'S THERE'S A THING CALLED AN IMMIGRATION DETAINER REQUEST.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS?

>> SURE. THAT PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> SURE. THAT PROCESS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

I BELIEVE THE CHIEF SOMEWHAT TOUCHED ON THAT EARLIER, WHEN HE SAID THAT IF A DPD OFFICER WILL DRIVE WITH SOMEBODY ON LOCAL CHARGES, THEN THEY WILL TURN THEM OVER TO THE COUNTY.

ONCE THEY GET TO THE COUNTY, WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE WHERE THE COUNTY WILL REACH OUT TO IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES.

WE WILL DETERMINE IMMIGRATION STATUS.

IF THE PERSON HAPPENED TO BEHAVE IN VIOLATION OF IMMIGRATION LAWS, THEN ICE WILL ISSUE WHAT WE CALL AN ICE DETAINER, WHICH IS A REQUEST ESSENTIALLY TO TURN THAT PERSON OVER TO ICE ONCE THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR LOCAL CHARGES.

>> ICE TAKE SOMEBODY INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM, AND THEN THEY DETERMINE THAT THERE'S AN IMMIGRATION DETAINER REQUEST AND THEN YOU'RE AUTHORIZED TO ASK FOR THEIR STATUS.

THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BACKWARDS?

>> NOW, SO LET ME BE CLEAR. THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

THAT IS COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

A PERSON GETS BOOKED INTO A COUNTY JAIL.

THOSE OFFICIALS AT THAT COUNTY JAIL, THEY WILL TAKE THOSE FINGERPRINTS.

THOSE FINGERPRINTS ARE SUBMITTED TO ICE.

I WILL LOOK INTO THE STATUS.

ONCE ICE HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PERSON IS IN VIOLATION OF IMMIGRATION LAW, WE WILL THEN ISSUE WHAT WE CALL AN ICE DETAINER, WHICH IS A REQUEST TO TURN THAT PERSON OVER TO US ONCE THEY HAVE COMPLETED THE LOCAL CHARGES.

AGAIN, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JAIL ENFORCEMENT MODEL, THE WARRANT SERVICE MODEL, AND THE TASK FORCE MODEL UNDER 287(G), PLEASE?

>> YES. THE JAIL ENFORCEMENT MODEL IS WHERE WE CROSS COMMISSION JAILERS AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN THE RECORDS CHECKS LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE.

THE WAY IT WORKS IS THE JAIL ENFORCEMENT MODEL, IF SOMEONE IS BOOKED INTO JAIL, AND THEY ARE FOREIGN BORN, THAT THEN GIVES THAT DESIGNATED IMMIGRATION OFFICER.

THERE ARE PROBABLE CAUSE TO GO TALK TO THE PERSON.

THE JAIL ENFORCEMENT MODEL, THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY GIVEN BY ICE UNDER 287(G) TO DETERMINE ALIENAGE OF THAT PERSON, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO OUR SYSTEMS TO RUN RECORDS CHECKS AND ALL OF THAT AND TO PLACE THE HOLD FOR ICE FOR WHEN THEY'RE DONE WITH THEIR STATE OR LOCAL CHARGES.

THE WARRANT SERVICE OFFICER PROGRAM IS ALSO WITHIN THE JAIL.

ALL OF THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT THE WARRANT SERVICE OFFICER IS IS THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SERVE THAT IMMIGRATION WARRANT ON AN INMATE, AT THE TIME THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PICKED UP BY ICE.

THE TASKFORCE MODEL IS ON THE STREET AUTHORITY IN THE COMMUNITY DURING THEIR NORMAL DAILY DUTIES.

>> ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON LIMITATION OF WHERE YOU CAN IDENTIFY PEOPLE, PICK UP PEOPLE.

CAN YOU GO ON TO PUBLIC PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTY, ALL HOURS OF THE DAY, PERSONAL PROPERTY? WHAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION OF PICKING UP PEOPLE WITHOUT A WARRANT IN YOUR HAND OTHER THAN A KNOWN POTENTIAL PROBABLE CAUSE OF TRAFFIC VIOLATION OR SOMETHING? IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE PICKED UP ON THE STREETS?

>> WITH RESPECT TO THE TASK FORCE MODEL IF THAT DPD OFFICER OR ANY STATE OR ANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS,

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IF THEY ENCOUNTER THAT OFFICER ON THE STREETS, THEN I WOULD SAY, YES.

AGAIN, I WANT TO, BE CLEAR.

IT'S DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR DUTIES.

THEY RESPOND TO A CALL, WHATEVER THAT CALL IS.

>> MY LAST QUESTION, AND AGAIN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ARE THE ICE AGENTS MASKED AND HAVE LIMITED IDENTIFICATION ON THEIR PERSONS AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A CONTRACT TO DPD OR OTHER PRIVATE I MEAN, CITY EMPLOYEE.

BUT WHY ARE THE ICE OFFICERS MASKED AND HAVE LIMITED IDENTIFICATION.

IS THERE A PURPOSE FOR THAT?

>> COUNSELMAN ROTH YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.

>> I'M SORRY, COUNSEL ROTH.

>> SIR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE.

BUT THE DOXING ON ICE OFFICER AND AGENTS IS THROUGH THE ROOF.

THROUGH THE ROOF, THE DOXING OF ICE EMPLOYEES.

SURE THE DOXING OF ICE EMPLOYEES HAS REACHED A LEVEL THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

SAME THING WITH ASSAULTS ON ICE OFFICER.

AS A PUBLIC SERVANT, I HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE TRANSPARENT, SO I'M HERE VOLUNTARILY, BUT I'M TAKING A CHANCE, BUT I'M HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM.

I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE YOU ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.

I WANT TO START OFF WITH A NUMBER THAT KEEPS GETTING THROWN OUT $25 MILLION.

THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE CITY WOULD BE EITHER ACCEPTING OR REJECTING $25 MILLION.

IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION, PLEASE, SIR?

>> AS WE KEEP HEARING THE NUMBER OF $25 MILLION BEING THROWN OUT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S A NUMBER THAT IS ACCURATE.

IS THAT A NUMBER THAT'S BEEN CALCULATED OR IS IT JUST A NUMBER THAT'S BEEN I GUESS THROWN OUT?

>> WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT AGAIN, WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION.

I DO NOT KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM, BUT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU.

I JUST CHESS BASED ON MY CALCULATION.

I I ESTIMATED THAT DPD MAY HAVE ABOUT 3,200 OFFICERS.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT ACRE OR NOT.

ONCE YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY 7,500, IT COMES UP TO ABOUT 24 MILLION.

>> THAT IS MY CALCULATIONS.

AGAIN, WE WERE NOT PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.

>> ARE THOSE NUMBERS ANNUAL NUMBERS, OR ARE THEY ONE TIME NUMBERS? IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE WERE TO GET NUMBERS TODAY, WOULD THOSE NUMBERS BE BALANCED FOR A FUTURE BUDGET?

>> EQUIPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION IS A ONE TIME DEAL.

HOWEVER, REIMBURSEMENTS OCCURS MONTHLY AS LONG AS THE PROGRAM IS OPERATIONAL.

>> HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR TRAINING FOR AN ICE OFFICER?

>> CURRENTLY, AGAIN, I'M HERE IN THE SPIEL OF TRANSPARENCY, BUT I THINK WE'RE DEVIATING FROM 287(G).

I WILL ANSWER THAT ONE QUESTION.

I BELIEVE CURRENTLY IT'S ABOUT 8-9 WEEKS.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> IT'S ABOUT 8-9 WEEKS.

>> HOW LONG DOES IT WOULD IT TAKE FOR A POLICE OFFICER TO GO THROUGH THE 287(G) MODEL FOR TRAINING? HOW IS THAT TRAINING CONDUCTED?

>> TRAINING IS CONDUCTED ONLINE, AND I BELIEVE IT IS ABOUT 40 HOURS.

>> I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY OF KELLER HERE THAT SAYS IT'S ABOUT EIGHT HOURS WORTH OF TRAINING.

IS THAT SUFFICIENT TIME? OUR OFFICERS ARE BEING TRAINED FOR 10 MONTHS PLUS HAVING AN OFFICER JOINING THEM WHILE THEY'RE OUT IN THE FIELD.

DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT EIGHT HOURS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TIME FOR THE TRAINING THAT SOMETIMES TAKES MONTHS FOR OTHER AGENCIES TO GO THROUGH TRAINING?

>> I CAN'T SPEAK TO EIGHT HOURS.

I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE CITY OF KELLER.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM.

I CAN TELL YOU BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT I'VE LOOKED AT, WE PROVIDE 40 HOURS.

>> IF THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT GETS PULLED OVER

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DURING A JUST A NORMAL TRAFFIC INFRACTION, AND AN OFFICER HAS BEEN, I GUESS DEPUTIZED TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAM.

WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR AS FAR AS DETERMINING SOMEONE'S LEGAL STATUS? IS THERE A SYSTEM THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE BEING UPLOADED ONTO THEIR PATROL VEHICLES? HOW DO WE DETERMINE SOMEONE'S LEGAL STATUS?

>> I MEAN, IT'S BASED ON TOTALITY OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

IF A PERSON GIVES YOU A FOREIGN ID, DURING A TRAFFIC STOP, SAY THEY DON'T HAVE A DRIVER LICENSE, THEY GIVE YOU A FOREIGN ID.

I BELIEVE, IT START FROM THERE.

THAT'S, YOUR REASONABLE SUFFICIENCY, BELIEVE THAT, THIS PERSON MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION.

>> SO IF SOMEONE GETS PULLED OVER, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE AN IMMIGRATION DETAINER, IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T THINK YOU EXPLAINED TO ME HOW IF SOMEONE GETS PULLED OVER, HOW ARE WE DETERMINING THEIR LEGAL STATUS?

>> IT'S BASED OF TOTALITY OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

EVERY STOP MIGHT BE DIFFERENT.

EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS DURING THAT STOP THAT GAVE THE OFFICER A REASONABLE SUSPICION TO BELIEVE THAT THIS PERSON MIGHT HAVE VIOLATED IMMIGRATION LAWS, IT ELEVATES FROM THERE.

PROBABLE CAUSE DOESN'T OCCUR UNTIL AN ICE OFFICER IS VERIFIED THAT THE PERSON IS IN FACT ILLEGALLY.

>> I'M NOT SURE WHERE MY TIME IS THAT MY TIME?

>> YES.THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

>> NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW AT THE SECOND ROUND.

DO ANYONE HAVE I'M SORRY.

I SKIPPED YOU. CHAIR MIDDLESON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR TWO MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. NUMBER OF THESE QUESTIONS, I THINK HAVE STRAYED FROM WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A MEETING TO DECIDE OR DEBATE IMMIGRATION POLICY OR ENFORCEMENT.

THAT'S NOT THE ROLE OF A CITY COUNCIL.

SO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN CHARGED WITH BY THE MAYOR IS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE POLICE CHIEF SAID AT THE POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD MEETING AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OFFER WAS, AND IF WE THINK THAT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT FOR US.

SO REALLY JUST TAKING IT BACK AS A POLICY DECISION FOR THE COUNCIL.

FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? THIS IS WHY THIS WOULD BE GOOD OR BAD FOR A CITY TO ACCEPT?

>> I WILL SAY IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY BECAUSE YOU DEFINITELY HAVE SOME INDIVIDUAL THAT FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS.I'LL USE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT DURING A TRAFFIC STOP, IF YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED ON A TRAFFIC CITATIONS,BUT BECAUSE OF OUR PARTNERSHIP, WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT THIS PERSON MAYBE IS A REPEAT OFFENDER OF IMMIGRATION SYSTEM.

MAYBE THEY'VE BEEN DEPORTED TWO TO THREE TIMES.

MAYBE THEY HAVE COMMITTED, SOME OFFENSES.

THIS PERSON COULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED ON A TRAFFIC CITATIONS.

THEY WILL BE OUT THERE ROAMING OUR STREETS, ROAMING OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE PROGRAM AIMS TO DO,APPREHENDING THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS.

IF THAT MAKES SENSE?

>> IT DOES. I WANT TO GO BACK TO ACTUALLY THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNSELOR STEWART WAS ASKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STOP BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS WITH THAT.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT A REGULAR DPD OFFICER WHO IS IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT, AND THROUGHOUT THE DAY IS MAKING TRAFFIC STOPS, FOR VARIOUS ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, THAT THEY WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO DO THAT, BUT THEN YOU'RE ASKING THEM,WHEN THEY WALK BACK TO THEIR CAR AND THEY'RE CHECKING FOR REGISTRATION AND INSURANCE, THAT THEY WOULD ALSO CHECK ANOTHER DATABASE, OR IS THERE SOMETHING MORE TO IT? LIKE, WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING?

>> SO DURING THAT TRAFFIC STOP, IF THEY HAVE REASONABLE SUSPICION, I KNOW I SAID PROBABLE CAUSE A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I NEED TO GO BACK.

PROBABLE CAUSE OCCURS WHEN YOU ACTUALLY MAKE THE ARREST, BUT REASONABLE SUSPICION IS REALLY WHERE IT STARTS, AND THAT'S JUST BASED ON MY TRAINING AS A NICE OFFICER.

ONCE YOU HAVE REASONABLE SUSPICION TO BELIEVE THAT THIS PERSON MIGHT HAVE, COMMITTED MIGHT BE IN VIOLATION OF IMMIGRATION LAWS,

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THEN YOU WILL CONTACT ICE AND ICE WILL ACTUALLY BE RUNNING THE CHECKS GIVING YOU THE GREEN LIGHT TO TAKE TO TAKE THIS PERSON IN CUSTODY FOR IMMIGRATION PURPOSES.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M GETTING THIS RIGHT.

THEY WOULD REMAIN UNDER DPD CONTROL ALL THROUGH THE DAY, BUT THEY WOULD DO THAT ONE EXTRA THING.

BUT THAT EXTRA THING, THE PROBABLE CAUSE, I UNDERSTAND IF THEY ARE GIVING YOU AN INTERNATIONAL LICENSE, BUT WHAT ELSE IS PROBABLE CAUSE IN THAT INSTANCE?

>> SO WHAT I NEED TO GO BACK, THEY WOULD NOT BE IN DPD THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

THAT IS DURING THAT ENCOUNTER.

>> WHAT REIMBURSEMENT FOR TIME, IS THAT JUST FOR THE MINUTES OF THE TRAFFIC STOP OR THAT'S THEIR ENTIRE DAY PAY?

>> CAN YOU REPEAT, PLEASE?

>> SO ARE YOU REIMBURSING DPD UNDER THIS PROGRAM FOR THE ENTIRE DAY OF THAT OFFICER WHO'S DOING TRAFFIC STOPS ALL DAY, OR ARE YOU REIMBURSING FOR THE MINUTES OF, YOU'RE HANDING ME AN INTERNATIONAL LICENSE, AND NOW I HAVE SUSPICIONS?

>> THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WORKING IS THEY'RE TRACKING THEIR TIME FROM THE MOMENT THAT IT BECOMES A TITLE EIGHT WHERE THEY'RE IDENTIFYING THE PERSON, CALLING IMMIGRATION, FINDING OUT IF IT'S SOMEONE THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN TAKING INTO CUSTODY? THROUGH THE ARREST TO TRANSPORT OVER, DROP OFF AT THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE AND RETURN BACK TO THEIR DUTY SITE.

THAT ENTIRE TIME IS REIMBURSABLE, NOT THE ENTIRE DAY.

>> SO IN YOUR EXAMPLE WHERE SOMEONE WAS JUST GETTING A TICKET, AND THEY WERE GOING TO GO OFF ON THEIR DAY, LIKE ALL THOSE OTHER ACTIVITIES, THE OFFICER WOULD NOT HAVE SPENT TIME DOING.

IS THAT WHY YOU'RE REIMBURSING IT?

>> CORRECT. BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, NOW THEY'RE DOING IMMIGRATION WORK, SO WE WOULD BE PAYING BACK THE DEPARTMENT FOR THAT TIME SPENT.

AND WAS THERE A REQUIREMENT ON THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS OR PERCENT OF OFFICERS THAT NEEDED TO PARTICIPATE? WAS THAT PART OF WHAT WAS OFFERED TO COMO, OR IT WAS JUST HOWEVER MANY YOU WOULD WANT TO PARTICIPATE?

>> NUMBER OF OFFICER I BELIEVE IT'S UP TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.

I THINK WE DON'T HAVE A LIMIT ON HOW MANY OFFICER YOU'D LIKE TO NOMINATE.

IT IS UP TO THE AGENCY.

>> THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW UP TO OUR SECOND ROUND TWO MINUTES.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH COUNCILMAN RIDLEY.

IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE GOING TO START THERE.

>> NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. WAS IT?

>> MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. YOU MENTIONED A LOT ABOUT THE GREEN LIGHT AND CALLING IMMIGRATION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA ON THE NUMBER OF ENCOUNTERS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES COME ACROSS WHEN THEY PULL SOMEONE OVER AND THEY'RE CALLING IMMIGRATION TO VERIFY SOMEONE'S STATUS WHEN THERE'S THE PROBABLE CAUSE THAT WE BELIEVE SOMEONE MIGHT BE IN THE COUNTRY UNLAWFULLY? HOW MANY WHAT'S THE DATA ON THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE ACTUALLY FIND TO BE UNAUTHORIZED IN THE COUNTRY VERSUS THOSE WHO ARE.

>> I DO NOT HAVE THE DATA THAT SHE ARE LOOKING FOR.

I BELIEVE IF ANYBODY WILL HAVE THAT TYPE OF DATA, YOU WILL PROBABLY BE HAND AT THE HEADQUARTERS LEVEL.

BUT HERE, BEING FROM THE DALLAS PHIL IF I DO NOT HAVE THAT DATA.

>> ARE YOU AWARE OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS, ROUGHLY THE CITY OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARREST DAILY, HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE ARRESTED DAILY?

>> NO, SIR.

>> AND SO THE NUMBER IS JUST UNDER 100.

AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR 50 ADDITIONAL ARRESTS TO BE MADE TO BE PART OF THE SO THERE'S NO NUMBER 50 IS NOT A NUMBER THAT'S ACCURATE?

>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT FIGURE CAME FROM.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

>> THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HEARD OF LIKE A QUOTA AT ALL.

THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN QUOTAS SET ON AGENCIES AS FAR AS HOW MANY OFFICERS HAVE TO BE CREDENTIALED, HOW MANY ARRESTS HAVE TO BE MADE, HOW OFTEN NONE OF THAT HAS EVER BEEN PART OF THE 287(G) PROGRAM.

>> SO THERE'S NO QUOTA AT ALL?

>>CORRECT.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> COUNSEL LAURA.

>> YES. JUST A CLARIFICATION, YOU MENTIONED IS IT THE FIELD OFFICE THAT'S BEING USED AT DETENTION CENTER?

>> THE FIELD OFFICE IS NOT USED AS A DETENTION CENTER.

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WE DO HAVE HOLDING CELLS FOR PROCESSING PURPOSES.

ONCE AN INDIVIDUAL IS ARRESTED, THEY ARE TAKEN INTO OUR FEEL OFFICE FOR PROCESSING PURPOSES.

THAT'S WHERE WE HANDLE THE PAPERWORK.

THAT'S WHERE WE PROCESS THEM TO APPEAR IN FRONT OF A IMMIGRATION JUDGE.

ONCE THAT PROCESS IS COMPLETE, WE THEN SET THEM UP FOR LONG TERM DETENTION.

>> OKAY. THEN IF A POLICE OFFICER THAT WAS,ENROLLED IN THIS PROGRAM WERE TO STOP SOMEONE THAT'S HAVING A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT CASE? AND THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED CLEARANCE FROM ICE?TO TAKE?

>> WELL, I BELIEVE THE WELL BEING OF THAT PERSON WOULD BE PRIORITY.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO INVOLVE THE APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES.

>> OKAY. AND WHAT IF THEY'RE ON MEDICATION AND THEY'RE TAKEN IN?

>> IF THE PERSON WANTS TO BE HELD IN ONE OF OUR DETENTION FACILITY, WE DO HAVE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS.

THEY GO THROUGH A MEDICAL SCREENING, AND THEY WILL BE RECEIVING THE APPROPRIATE MEDICAL CARE.

>> OKAY. AND THEN ONE MORE QUESTION.

ONCE TIME HAS BEEN SUBMITTED BY DPD, CAN ICE DENY THE TIME OR WHO KEEPS UP WITH THE TIME THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY SPENT ON, AS PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM?

>> CAN YOU ASK ONE MORE TIME? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR BEFORE I ANSWER?

>> YES. SO ONCE TIME HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, LIKE, I GUESS WHO KEEPS TRACK OF THE TIME THAT THE OFFICER SPENDS ON THIS PROGRAM? AND THEN CAN THAT TIME BE DENIED BY ICE AND THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS?

>> OKAY. SO PRIOR TO THE REIMBURSEMENT, BEING SUBMITTED.

EACH OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ATTEND A TRAINING WITH OUR HEADQUARTERS DEPARTMENT EXPLAINING WHAT IS REIMBURSABLE AND WHAT IS NOT.

AND HOW TO TRACK THAT? AND ONCE ALL OF THAT IS SUBMITTED, IF IT IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED, SAYING, YES, THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE REIMBURSABLE FOR, THEN THAT IS WHAT IS PAID BACK.

>> OKAY.THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I FIRST WANT TO SAY, I APOLOGIZE.

IT SEEMS AS IF ONE OF MY QUESTIONS MADE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE AND SOME OTHERS UP HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS ASKING OUR OFFICERS TO DO TO THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY AND ASK THAT QUESTION.

WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE HUMANITY.

WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE INCLUSIVENESS IN THIS CITY.

WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THE LAW, AND OUR OFFICERS ARE NOT TRAINED OR MEANT TO ADMINISTER THE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT YOUR PROGRAM SUGGESTS.

IN FACT, IT DRAINS OUR RESOURCES.

IT WOULD DRAIN OUR RESOURCES LIKE THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF YOU ALL HAD ANY STATISTICAL DATA TO SUPPORT, BECAUSE THE ONLY MUNICIPALITIES THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA THAT HAS ENTERED INTO 287(G) AGREEMENT HAS SINCE REVOKED THAT AGREEMENT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT DID TO THE STRAINING OF THEIR LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES.

A COUPLE OF TIMES IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE TODAY, YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT THESE HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIOS OF TRADITIONAL TRAFFIC STOP.

THEN YOU SAID REASONABLE SUSPICION.EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT REASONABLE SUSPICION OF BREAKING IMMIGRATION LAW IS.

>> AGAIN, IT'S A RE-ENCOUNTER IS DIFFERENT.

IT'S BASED ON THE TOTALITY OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

IT'S SEVERAL FACTORS.

AGAIN, I'M HERE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY 287(G)MODEL.

NOT THE LEGAL ASPECT.

>> CLEARLY, THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE TRAINING IN THIS PROGRAM, IF YOU'RE CITING REASONABLE SUSPICION, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC AGREEMENT.

I'M NOT GOING OUTSIDE OF THE REALM OF WHAT YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT.

WITH THIS AGREEMENT, HOW ARE YOU TRAINING OFFICERS AND MUNICIPALITIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A REASONABLE SUSPICION IS WHEN IT COMES TO IMMIGRATION LAW?

>> AGAIN, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.

I RECEIVED A VERY SPECIFIC SET OF QUESTIONS.

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FROM YOUR OFFICE. AND THAT'S WHAT I AM AUTHORIZED TO SPEAK ON.

AGAIN, ANYTHING ELSE THAT I HAVE, IF I'VE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL DETAILS IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY.

AS A PUBLIC SERVANT, I THINK IT'S NECESSARY FOR ME TO BE HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU ALL, BUT I AM NOT A PREPARED TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE THAT I RECEIVED IN ADVANCE.

AND ANYTHING ELSE I PROVIDED, THAT'S JUST OUT OF COURTESY.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S SAFE TO ASSUME THAT A LOT OF THAT REASONABLE SUSPICION HAS TO DO WITH IMPLICIT BIAS.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRAINING OUR OFFICERS NOT TO USE WHEN THEY STOP OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN RESENDEZ.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

IF I'M GOING TO SIT HERE AND ADVOCATE FOR THE DIGNIFIED, RESPECTFUL TREATMENT OF OTHERS, I THINK I NEED TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS FOUND CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS UNDER 287(G) IN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS.

WHAT SPECIFIC REFORMS, IF ANY, HAS ICE IMPLEMENTED TO PREVENT THOSE SAME ABUSES ELSEWHERE?

>> I WOULD HAVE TO REFER TO A HEAD QUARTERS DIVISION.

I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE.

>> OKAY. SO THEN I'M ASSUMING YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW WHAT STEPS, IF ANY, HAS ICE TAKEN TO PREVENT RACIAL PROFILING AND IMPLICIT BIAS BY LOCAL OFFICERS TRAINED UNDER THIS PROGRAM.

>> WE GO THROUGH SEVERAL TRAINING A YEAR.

>> DOES ICE TRACK HOW OFTEN US CITIZENS OR LAWFUL RESIDENTS ARE MISTAKENLY OR WRONGFULLY DETAINED UNDER 287(G)?

>> NOT NECESSARILY UNDER 287(G).

THERE MIGHT BE SOME DATA AVAILABLE AT THE HEADQUARTERS LEVEL.

ME BEING FROM THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE, I CAN'T SPEAK TO NATIONAL FIGURES.

>> OKAY. WHAT ACCOUNTABILITY STEPS OCCUR IF A US CITIZEN IS DETAINED UNDER 287(G)?

>> I DO NOT HAVE ANY INFORMATION AVAILABLE, SIR.

>> DOES ICE HAVE A RECORD OF DISCIPLINING AGENTS OR LOCAL OFFICERS FOR MISCONDUCT UNDER 287(G)?

>> I MEAN, ACROSS THE BOARD IN GENERAL, NOT JUST NECESSARILY UNDER 287(G).

>> COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

>> WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE ACROSS THE BOARD, NOT JUST UNDER 287(G).

>> COULD YOU PROVIDE ANY EXAMPLES?

>> AS ICE OFFICER, WE ARE ICE EMPLOYEES, WE ARE HELD TO A HIGH STANDARDS, AND THERE'S A TABLE OF PENALTIES THAT WE KNOW THERE'S A PROCESS WHERE WE CONSULT WITH EMPLOYEES AND LABOR RELATIONS.

THERE ARE LAWYERS INVOLVED.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE, NOT JUST 50-287(G), BUT ACROSS THE AGENCY AS A WHOLE.

>> WELL, DOES ICE INDEMNIFY LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AGAINST CIVIL RIGHTS LAWSUITS RESULTING FROM 287(G) ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS?

>> ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE?

>> DOES ICE INDEMNIFY LOCAL JURISDICTIONS AGAINST CIVIL RIGHTS LAWSUITS, RESULTING FROM 287(G) ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS?

>> YES, SIR. I WOULD HAVE TO REFER TO YOU TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

>> THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT IF ICE DOESN'T INDEMNIFY, WHY SHOULD DALLAS TAXPAYERS ASSUME THE LEGAL AND FINANCIAL RISK FOR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT?

>> ONE MORE TIME, PLEASE, SIR?

>> IF ICE DOES NOT INDEMNIFY LOCAL JURISDICTIONS UNDER THE 287(G) PROGRAM, WHY SHOULD DALLAS TAXPAYERS ASSUME THE LEGAL AND FINANCIAL RISK FOR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT?

>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE EITHER DO OR WE DON'T.

I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER YOU TO OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

>> WELL, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF INDIVIDUALS ARRESTED UNDER 287(G) HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF VIOLENT CRIMES VERSUS MINOR OR NON CRIMINAL IMMIGRATION VIOLATIONS?

>> THAT DATA IS AVAILABLE.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT I RECEIVED IN ADVANCE.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE THE DATA WITH YOU TODAY.

>> WELL, PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS DEFINING WHAT KIND OF CITY WE WANT TO BE.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH ICE UNDER 287(G) ALIGNS WITH A CITY THAT VALUES DIVERSITY, TRUST, FAIRNESS, AND THE HUMANE TREATMENT OF OUR RESIDENTS REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS?

>> I BELIEVE THE 287(G) PROGRAM WILL BE AN ASSET AND WILL PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> DESPITE THE CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE PAST?

>> I REJECT THE PREMISE OF CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS.

LIKE I SAID, IS ALL ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE DIGNITY OF OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM.

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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, STEWART.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, JOHNSON.

I'M STILL STUCK ON THE STOP IN OKLAHOMA.

I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THE OFFICER WOULD HAVE DONE THE CHECK AS A MATTER OF STANDARD PROCEDURE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT OFFICERS DO WHEN THEY PULL SOMEONE OVER.

THEY GO AND TAKE YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE, YOUR FOREIGN DRIVER'S LICENSE, WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEY GO RUN A CHECK.

WHAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT IS THAT THE INTERPOL NOTICE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP WITH THAT OFFICER, THAT STATE TROOPER, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE WAS TAPPING INTO A DIFFERENT DATABASE.

THE WAY I'M READING WHAT I'VE GOOGLED IS THAT THE INTERPOL ISSUES A RED NOTICE AND THAT WILL SHOW UP DURING A CHECK FROM A ROUTINE TRAFFIC STOP, ESPECIALLY FOR COUNTRIES THAT ARE MEMBER COUNTRIES, AND THE US IS A MEMBER COUNTRY WITH INTERPOL.

MY POINT IS, YOU'RE TOUTING THAT WE GOT THIS BAD GUY IN OKLAHOMA, BECAUSE THIS TROOPER PULLED THIS GENTLEMAN OVER.

I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU HE DID GET THE BAD GUY, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HE WAS DOING AND FOLLOWING STANDARD PROCEDURE AS THE OKLAHOMA STATE TROOPER, WHICH I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT HE DID THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS HIS IMMIGRATION TRAINING OR HIS ACCESS TO THAT DATABASE THAT REALLY MADE THE DIFFERENCE.

THERE'S NOT A QUESTION THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR, STEWART.

YOU RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN, GRACIE, TWO MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. I'LL GO BACK JUST TO BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE REIMBURSEMENT.

IF WE WANT TO MAKE THIS ABOUT A BUDGET QUESTION, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE REIMBURSEMENT AGAIN.

YOU SAID EARLIER, IF THE CITY WERE TO PARTICIPATE, YOU GET UPFRONT, YOU GET HOW MUCH? WHAT IS THAT FOR?

>> WHILE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE, IT'S 7,500 TOWARDS EQUIPMENT.

>> SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED PER PARTICIPATING OFFICER.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS, THAT 25 MILLION. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK THE MATH IS BASED ON IF EVERY OFFICER WERE TO PARTICIPATE, THAT'S WHAT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT COULD BE.

THAT'S IF EVERY OFFICER WERE TO PARTICIPATE.

WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE CAPACITY TO DO THAT.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD BE MUCH LESS.

BUT, I'M SORRY. SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED PER OFFICER UP FRONT? WHAT DID YOU SAY?

>> YES. THAT IS UP FRONT, THAT IS NOT REIMBURSEMENT.

THAT IS ONCE THE AGENCY IS OPERATIONAL, I BELIEVE AFTER THEY MADE THE FIRST ARREST? YES. THEN EVERY PARTICIPATING OFFICER OR THE AGENCY WILL RECEIVE 7,500 PER PARTICIPATING OFFICER, AND ALSO $100,000 TO TRANSPORTATION, ESSENTIALLY THE PURCHASE OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT VEHICLE.

>> ONE TIME 100,000.

>> ONE TIME.

>> IS IT UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT ADDITIONAL 7,500 GOES TO THE OFFICER OR DOES IT GO TO THE DEPARTMENT? HOW IT'S CURRENTLY FUNCTIONING IN OTHER ENTITIES, ARE THEY GIVING THAT 7,500 DIRECTLY TO THE PARTICIPATING OFFICER?

>> IT'S TO THE AGENCY, NOT THE OFFICER.

I DOES NOT DICTATE WHAT EQUIPMENT FALLS UNDER QUALIFIES.

I BELIEVE IT'S UP TO THE AGENCY.

ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU KEEP DETAILED INFORMATION IN CASE OF A NODDED.

>> I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT WORDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE INCENTIVIZING NOT THE CITIES, BUT THE OFFICERS TO PARTICIPATE.

THAT'S WHAT THE DISTINGUISHED MINT.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE IN THIS.

ARE OFFICERS CHOOSING TO SIGN UP FOR THIS BECAUSE THE MONEY GOES TOWARDS THEM?

>> NO, THE AGENCY GETS TO CHOOSE WHAT OFFICERS.

THE OFFICER DOES NOT HAVE A SAY SO UNLESS THE AGENCY GIVES THEM A SAY SO.

IT'S NOT US DICTATING HOW MANY OFFICERS OR THAT THERE HAS TO BE SO MANY.

BUT JUST WITH ANY OTHER AGENCY, THEY CAN HAND SELECT WHOEVER THEY WANT IF THEY WANT TO CHOOSE ONLY THEIR OFFICERS THAT

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ARE ALREADY ON FEDERAL TASK FORCES TO CROSS COMMISSION THOSE.

>> BUT THE MORE OFFICERS, THE MORE MONEY, BASICALLY?

>> CORRECT.

>> LET ME ASK, I'M SORRY.

>> I WAS JUST GO TO SAY, BECAUSE IT'S $7,500 PER OFFICER THAT GOES TO THE AGENCY.

NOW, WITH THAT, IT SAYS, FOR EQUIPMENT.

HOWEVER THE AGENCY USES THAT $7,500, WHATEVER EQUIPMENT THEY CHOOSE TO PURCHASE WITH IT, THAT'S ON THE AGENCY.

>> THAT'S THE BODY MASKS.

I'M SORRY. THAT WAS A BAD JOKE, I'M SORRY.

LAST QUESTION, THIS IS TO THE POINT THAT THEY BROUGHT UP THERE, BECAUSE THIS IS A LEGITIMATE QUESTION.

IN TERMS OF THE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS, IF A DPD OFFICER, WHO IS PARTICIPATING IN THIS PROGRAM, IF THEY DO, IF THEY PARTICIPATE IN THIS, AND THEY HAVE MISCONDUCT, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRECTING AND DISCIPLINING THAT BEHAVIOR? IS IT ICE OR IS IT DPD? THEN, ARE THERE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THIS HAS HAPPENED? HOW DID YOU ALL HANDLE THAT?

>> I HAVE NOT HAD THAT CIRCUMSTANCE HAPPEN WITH A TASK FORCE MODEL.

THIS IS STILL FAIRLY NEW.

BUT I DO MANAGE JAIL ENFORCEMENT MODEL PROGRAMS. THE DISCIPLINARY HAPPENS WITHIN THEIR AGENCY.

IF THAT AGENCY CHOOSES, THEY NO LONGER WANT THAT OFFICER TO PARTICIPATE FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY CAN WITHDRAW THAT OFFICER.

ALL THAT WE ASK IS THAT IT GETS REPORTED TO US THAT THERE WAS DISCIPLINARY ACTION.

THE PART WHERE IT FITS INTO 287(G) IS IF IT WAS DISCIPLINARY ACTION OR IF IT WAS AN ACTION THAT TOOK PLACE DURING THEIR DUTIES AS A 287(G) OFFICER.

IF THAT OFFICER OFF DUTY OR ON DUTY GETS IN TROUBLE, BREAKS THE LAW, GETS ARRESTED FOR SOMETHING, NOTHING TO DO WITH 287(G), IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE REPORTED TO US.

WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

NOW, IF THEY'RE IN THERE UNDER THE COLOR OF 287(G) DOING THAT DUTY AND THEY GET IN TROUBLE, VIOLATE SOMEONE'S CIVIL RIGHTS OR WHATEVER, THEN YES.

IT GETS REPORTED UP THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT'S CHAIN OF COMMAND.

DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS TAKEN, IT'S REPORTED THROUGH US.

IT GOES THROUGH OUR JOINT INTAKE CENTER WHERE IT'S INVESTIGATED TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND THEN AN OUTCOME FROM THAT.

>> MAY I ASK ONE MORE?

>> NO, SIR.

>> COUNCIL WOMAN BARRY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR 2 MINUTES.

>> I'M GOING TO BE QUICK. I AM READING AMERICAN IMMIGRATION COUNCIL, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY STRESS IN A 2011 INVESTIGATION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE DOJ, CONCLUDED THAT THE MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN ARIZONA ENGAGED IN A PATTERN OF CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS AFTER ENTERING INTO A 287 AGREEMENT, INCLUDING RACIAL PROFILE OF SPECIFIC GROUPS.

CAN YOU HELP ME AND LET ME BACK UP AND SAY THANK YOU AGAIN AS AS MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, FOR COMING AND SITTING FOR US TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS.

I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU, BUT CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW 287(G) IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED IF YOU'RE SAYING IT'S FOR TRAFFIC STOPS ONLY.

THEN LOOKING AT A PERSON'S ID TO SAY, ARE YOU HERE LEGALLY OR NOT.

WHEN IT'S BEEN FOUND THAT IS WIDESPREAD RACIAL PROFILING, HAVE YOU ALTERED 287(G) TO ASSURE THAT DIGNITY OF PERSON IS OFFERED IN THE PROCESS?

>> WHAT I CAN SAY TO THAT IS I KNOW I USED TRAFFIC STOP A COUPLE OF TIMES.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRAFFIC STOP.

IT'S DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR DUTIES.

IF THE OFFICER IS ASSIGNED TO A FUGITIVE UNITS OR IF HE'S A DETECTIVE, THAT IS DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR DUTIES.

BUT SPECIFICALLY TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS, THAT'S WHEN WE GET INTO THE TRAINING AND ME AS AN ASSISTANT FAIL OFFICE DIRECTOR.

I'M YOUR POINT OF CONTACT HERE IN DALLAS, BUT I AM NOT NECESSARILY INVOLVED IN THE TRAINING ASPECT,

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THAT IS HANDLED AT THE HEADQUARTERS LEVEL. I REALLY APOLOGIZE.

AGAIN, I RECEIVED A SET OF QUESTIONS.

I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE PREPARED IF I KNEW THAT THIS WILL COME UP, BUT I DO NOT HAVE SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON THE ACTUAL TRAINING OTHER THAN IT'S A 40 HOURS TRAINING THAT THE OFFICER RECEIVED ONLINE.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE IF IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEET WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT I CAN'T SAY THIS IS ENOUGH.

I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THE TRAINING ASPECT OF IT.

>> I APPRECIATE YOUR TRANSPARENCY.

I APPRECIATE, LIKE I SAID, YOU COMING, BUT HOW ARE WE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO IF WE'RE NOT WELL INFORMED? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, JOE MILESON.

YOU'RE RECOGNIZED TWO MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU. HOW WOULD YOU RATE DALLAS COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES IN TEXAS, OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT COME INTO ICE CUSTODY?

>> I DO NOT HAVE NATIONAL FIGURES WITH ME TO COMPARE DALLAS WITH OTHER FIELD OFFICES.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH SAYING THAT DALLAS IS A BUSY FIELD OFFICE.

>> DALLAS IS A BUSY OFFICE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY A LOW NUMBER, A MIDDLE NUMBER, OR A HIGH NUMBER, WHICH CATEGORY WOULD YOU PUT US IN?

>> AGAIN, WHEN I SAY DALLAS, I SHOULD CLARIFY THE DALLAS FIELD OFFICE, WHICH HAS JURISDICTION OVER NORTH TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA BECAUSE WE ALSO OVERSEE OKLAHOMA.

WHEN I SPEAK ABOUT DALLAS FIELD OFFICE, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY JUST DALLAS.

IT'S ALL THE COUNTIES THAT WE OVERSEE IN NORTH TEXAS INCLUDING OKLAHOMA.

I WILL CATEGORIZE AS HIGH.

>> OFFICER IVY, YOU OVERSEE THIS WHOLE REGIONAL AREA OF NORTH TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> NO. ALL I OVERSEE IS 287(G) PROGRAM IN OKLAHOMA.

>> THANK YOU. ARE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO CUSTODY FROM ICE FROM THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, ARE THEY COMING THROUGH JAILS? IS THAT HOW THAT'S HAPPENING?

>> IT'S A COMBINATION OF JAIL AND ALSO WHAT WE CALL AT LARGE OPERATIONS.

WE DO HAVE SOME TEAMS THAT OPERATES AT IN THE FIELD.

IT'S A COMBINATION OF A FEW PROGRAMS.

>> IS DALLAS COUNTY A PARTNER WITH ICE RIGHT NOW? IF NOT, ARE YOU EXPECTING THEM TO BECOME A PARTNER AT SOME POINT?

>> IN TERMS OF 287(G), WE DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH DALLAS AS OF YET.

I'M COMFORTABLE SAYING THAT REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR FIELD OFFICE HAD A MEETING WITH DALLAS COUNTY SHERIFF.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AT THAT TIME, SHE INDICATED SHE WAS NOT INTERESTED INTO FORMAL AGREEMENT.

BUT I WILL SAY WE DO ENJOY AND WE APPRECIATE THE LEVEL OF CO-OPERATIONS THAT WE HAVE WITH DALLAS COUNTY WHEN IT COMES TO TURNING OVER INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BOOKED INTO THE JAILS ONCE THEY HAVE A DETAINER IN PLACE.

BY DETAINER IN PLACE, WHAT I MEAN BY STAT IS THAT WE'VE LOOKED INTO THE IMMIGRATION STATUS, AND IN ADDITION TO THE CRIMINAL HISTORY, WE'VE DETERMINED THAT THEY ARE IN VIOLATION, AND DALLAS COUNTY HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF TURNING THESE INDIVIDUALS OVER TO US.

>> EVERYONE KNOWS WHO IS THEY AND THAT'S A COUNTY OPERATION, BUT WE DO HAVE A CITY DETENTION CENTER.

ARE WE WORKING WITH YOU FROM THAT FACILITY?

>> ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE DALLAS CITY MARSHAL?

>> THE MARSHALS RUN IT, YES.

>> IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT FACILITY, IF IT OF THE FACILITY THAT I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO, PREVIOUSLY, I WAS ASSIGNED TO A DIFFERENT PROGRAM.

I DID OVERSEE THE CRIMINAL DEN PROGRAM.

I IRONICALLY, I DID MAKE A REQUEST TO DALLAS CITY MARSHALS, AND I DID REQUEST ACCESS TO THE JAIL.

I DO NOT REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE INDIVIDUALS, BUT I DO HAVE SOME E MAIL TRAFFIC.

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THE RESPONSE I RECEIVED WAS THAT IT REQUIRED APPROVAL FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FACILITY.

I DID SEND AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT MY REQUEST HAD BEEN FORWARDED TO THE CITY MANAGER, AND I FOLLOWED UP WITH AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST AND I HAD NEVER RECEIVED A RESPONSE.

I MEAN, I ESSENTIALLY, MY INTENTION WAS TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE IN JAILS.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THEY COME INTO CONTACT WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEMS. SO WE TRIED TO IDENTIFY THEM IN LOCAL JAILS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT DAS COUNTY JAILS.

I DID REQUEST TO HAVE ACCESS TO DALLAS CITY MARSHALS, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE A RESPONSE AFTER MY REQUEST FOR AN UPDATE.

>> I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE MONEY.

I HAD NOT HEARD SOME OF THIS BEFORE.

FOR THE $7,500 THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED BASED ON EVERY PERSON WHO GOES THROUGH TRAINING, WHAT IF IT WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS LIKE A AT OUR AUTO POUND OR IN OUR PROPERTY ROOM? RIGHT? THE PROPERTY ROOM PEOPLE DON'T GENERALLY COME IN CONTACT WITH THE PUBLIC, BUT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY GO THROUGH THE TRAINING AND GET THE $7,500, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE ELIGIBLE, THE ONLY OFFICERS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE 287 G PROGRAM.

THEY HAVE TO BE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE TWO YEARS EXPERIENCE.

WHAT POSITION THEY HOLD IN THE AGENCY, THAT'S NOT UP TO US.

THAT'S UP TO THE AGENCY WHO NOMINATES THOSE OFFICERS.

>> THEN THE SALARY REIMBURSEMENT, THOUGH, WOULD ONLY BE WHEN THEY'RE CONTACTING YOU BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOMEBODY WHO THEY HAVE SUSPICIONS ABOUT, AND THEN THE TRANSPORT PART, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. THE REIMBURSEMENT PIECE IS FOR IMMIGRATION ACTIVITIES THAT ARE CONDUCTED DURING THEIR NORMAL DUTIES.

>> WE HAVE 128 SWORN OFFICERS IN SUPPORT, 188 IN ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS, SWORN OFFICERS, AND 303 IN TACTICAL. THAT'S 619.

IF WE WERE GETTING $7,500 PER OFFICER, THAT'S $4.6 MILLION, AND THEY ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH SAFEGUARDS, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S NO QUOTA LIKE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET $4.6 MILLION FROM JUST GOING THROUGH THE TRAINING, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T TURN ANYONE OVER.

THEY HAVE TO MAKE AT LEAST ONE ARREST TO MAKE THEIR AGENCY ACTIVE.

>> JUST GOING THROUGH THE TRAINING TO GET THE MONEY, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

THE PROGRAM HAS TO BE ACTIVATED BY THE FIRST ARREST.

>> BY ONE OFFICER OR BY EVERY OFFICER.

>> BY ONE ARREST BEING MADE AND TURNED OVER TO ICE ON TITLE 8.

THANK YOU, GUYS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU. I AM NOW.

TAKING OUT QUESTIONS. YOU CAN BE DISMISSED.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE ONE MORE ROUND WITH WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

THIS IS A VERY EMOTIONAL AND IMPORTANT, SENSITIVE SUBJECT MATTER THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED TODAY AND I WANT TO THANK OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE THAT CAME OUT AND STAYED.

I WILL SAVE MY COMMENT FOR THE BY ADS.

HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO START WITH MY RIGHT TO SEE IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO MAKE A LAST STATEMENT.

I'M GIVING 4 MINUTES FOR THAT STATEMENT, STARTING WITH COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME? ROOM BEFORE YOU.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE FOUNDATIONS THAT THE CITY STANDS ON, IS ONE THAT'S ASKED US TO GO BACK AND DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN WHERE WE HAVE COME.

WE'VE COME A LONG WAY, TOWARDS TREATING PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT.

AND FROM WHAT I'VE READ WITH 287, IT WOULD TAKE US BACK.

I THINK THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS PROGRESSIVE AND SHOULD PROGRESS FORWARD, NOT BACKWARDS.

THAT'S HOW I FEEL AND THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILMAN GRACIE, YOU RECOGNIZE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WANTED TO TAKE OFFENSE 'CAUSE YOU WOULDN'T LET ME ASK MY LAST QUESTION.

THEN I REALIZE I'M NOT ON EITHER ONE OF THESE COMMITTEES.

THANK YOU FOR PART FOR ALLOWING ME TO PARTICIPATE.

THANK YOU. DO A GOOD JOB, SIR.

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WE'VE HEARD ENOUGH ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS.

THERE'S JUST TOO MANY HOLES IN THIS PROCESS TO REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I'M GLAD WE GOT SOME CLARITY IN THE FACT THAT THIS HEADLINE OF $25 MILLION IS BEING TURNED DOWN.

THE REALITY IS AS IF ALL OF OUR OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, IT'D BE WORTH $25 MILLION.

THEN IT BEGS THE QUESTION, WELL, IF IT'S NOT $25 MILLION, IS IT REALLY WORTH IT? WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, AT WHAT COST, AT WHAT COST DOES THIS BECOME SOMETHING OF VALUE? AGAIN, I'M REALLY PROUD OF THIS, AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING THIS.

I'M REALLY PROUD OF OUR DPD OFFICERS AND HOW THEY INTERACT WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S NOT THE BEST, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN MOST CITIES, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT FACT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY DISRUPT IT.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.

I'M NOT REALLY SATISFIED WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT GOES INTO PREPARING AN OFFICER TO EVEN DO THIS.

THREE, WE HAVEN'T I MENTIONED IT BRIEFLY, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY EVEN APPRECIATED THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE OFFICERS THAT WOULD WANT TO DO THIS.

IF THEY WOULD EVEN WANT TO PARTICIPATE, AND WOULD IT BE A VOLUNTARY OPTION, OR WOULD IT BE SOMETHING MANDATORY? IF IT'S MANDATORY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THIS MONEY, THEN AS AN OFFICER, I'M NOT GOING TO WANT TO PARTICIPATE, SO DOES THAT MEAN I LOSE MY JOB.

THEN THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS THAT DISCIPLINARY SIDE OF IT.

WE'VE SEEN THE VIDEOS AND EVERYTHING OF WHAT HAPPENED, AND I WASN'T SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSE THAT THEY HAD IN TERMS OF WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS IF THEY GET OUT OF CONTROL.

IF THEY'RE DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN, I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE'S, AND THEN OUR COLLEAGUE, ROCINDEZ, ASKED A BRILLIANT QUESTION, I THOUGHT, AND THEN THE INDEMNIFICATION OF IT, AND IF THEY ARE VIOLATE SOMETHING, IS THE CITY HELD LIABLE, WHICH THERE AGAIN BECOMES ANOTHER COST AT THE SACRIFICE OF THIS PROGRAM IS THE LIABILITY THAT COMES WITH IT.

WE LOSE COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP.

LOSE RESPONSE TIME.

WE LOSE THE CRIME GOING DOWN, WE LOSE.

AND THEN WE'RE AT RISK OF POTENTIAL LIABILITIES BASED ON THE BEHAVIOR BASED ON ONLINE TRAINING TO PREPARE FOR THIS.. AGAIN, FOR THESE REASONS, COLLEAGUES, I'M NOT SUPPORTING THIS AT ALL, AND IT'S JUST TOO GREAT OF A COST TO SACRIFICE.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIR FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE.

>> THANK YOU. CHAIR STEWART.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR JOHNSON.

AFTER EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD TODAY, I STILL STAND WITH CHIEF COMO.

I SUPPORT HIS DECISION.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, RECENDEZ.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME OUT OR TODAY, THIS AFTERNOON, THIS MORNING.

YOUR VOICES MATTER, AND YOUR ADVOCACY IS DEFINITELY NEEDED AT THIS TIME.

I ALSO SUPPORT CHIEF COMO'S DECISION.

TURNING DOWN THE 25 MILLION WAS A DECISION ROOTED IN EVIDENCE AND PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT, AND IT ALSO HAPPENS TO ALIGN WITH OUR VALUES.

CITIES THAT ENTERED SIMILAR 287 G AGREEMENTS HAVE FACED LAWSUITS, LOSS OF COMMUNITY COOPERATION, AND HIGHER LONG TERM COSTS.

THIS CONVERSATION, MUST BE ABOUT COMMUNITY SAFETY, CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING, AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.

NOBODY AROUND THIS HORSESHOE IS DEFENDING VIOLENT CRIMINALS.

BUT 287 G ISN'T A TOOL LIMITED TO VIOLENT CRIMINALS, AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE PROBLEM.

COUNTLESS PEOPLE DETAINED OR REMOVED UNDER 287 G HAD NO VIOLENT OR SERIOUS OFFENSES.

A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE REVIEW CONFIRMED THAT MOST INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFIED THROUGH 287 G WERE ARRESTED FOR TRAFFIC OFFENSES, MINOR MISDEMEANORS, OR CIVIL IMMIGRATION VIOLATIONS.

IN MANY JURISDICTIONS, DRIVING WITHOUT A LICENSE WAS THE MOST COMMON TRIGGER.

WE KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN PRACTICE.

DISPROPORTIONATE STOPS OF LATINO MOTORISTS.

FAMILIES TORN APART OVER MINOR INFRACTIONS IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE SIMPLY HAVING BROWN SKIN OR A SPANISH SURNAME BECOMES PROBABLE CAUSE.

IN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FOUND SYSTEMIC RACIAL PROFILING, UNLAWFUL DETENTIONS, AND FLAGRANT DISREGARD FOR THE CONSTITUTION.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE EXAMPLES, IT'S NOT CONTROVERSIAL TO SAY THE 287 G MODEL HAS PRODUCED UNCONSTITUTIONAL ENFORCEMENT AND RACIALLY DISCRIMINATORY POLICING.

THAT'S A MATTER OF RECORD.

IF DALLAS SIGNS ONTO THAT SYSTEM, KNOWING ITS HISTORY, WE'RE NOT JUST INVITING OVERSIGHT, WE'RE INVITING THE SAME CONSTITUTIONAL EXPOSURE, THOSE JURISDICTIONS FACED.

HERE IN DALLAS, WE EXPECT OUR POLICE TO UPHOLD DUE PROCESS, PROTECT THE VULNERABLE, AND BUILD TRUST, NOT REPLICATE MODELS THAT JEOPARDIZE OUR CIVIL RIGHTS.

THAT'S WHY OUR POLICE CHIEF WAS RIGHT TO SAY, NO.

THE MAYOR HAS CALLED 287 G A POTENTIAL FORCE MULTIPLIER.

I CALL IT A LIABILITY MULTIPLIER FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, FOR OUR OFFICERS, AND FOR OUR TAXPAYERS.

WE'D BE MULTIPLYING LAWSUITS, DISTRUST, AND FEAR, NOT SAFETY.

THAT 2.5 MILLION MIGHT SOUND LIKE A GAIN, BUT IT'S A FRACTION OF WHAT MISTRUST,

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CIVIL RIGHTS SETTLEMENTS AND REDUCED COOPERATION COULD COST US IN THE LONG RUN.

WHEN VICTIMS AND WITNESSES STOP CALLING 911, EVERYONE BECOMES LESS SAFE.

WE'VE SEEN IT PLAY OUT IN OTHER CITIES WHERE POLICE CHIEFS REPORTED DECLINES IN CRIME REPORTING AMONG LATINO RESIDENTS AFTER IMMIGRATION CRACKDOWNS.

THE MAJOR CITIES CHIEFS ASSOCIATION HAS WARNED AGAINST LOCAL PARTICIPATION, IN IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PRECISELY BECAUSE IT UNDERMINES TRUST.

FINALLY, WE CAN'T OVERLOOK THE POLITICAL JEOPARDY THE MAYOR HAS CREATED FOR OUR CITY.

BY ELEVATING THIS ISSUE AND PITTING LOCAL OFFICIALS AGAINST OUR OWN POLICE CHIEF, YOU'RE CREATING EXACTLY THE NATIONAL CONTROVERSY THAT UNDERMINES LOCAL UNITY AND DISTRACTS FROM REAL PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITIES.

THAT'S RECKLESS, SELF SERVING LEADERSHIP, AND AN UNNECESSARY PROVOCATION THAT PUTS DALLAS FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS AT RISK.

DALLAS HAS SPENT YEARS BUILDING TRUST BETWEEN OUR POLICE AND IMMIGRANT FAMILIES.

WE SHOULDN'T REPEAT OTHER CITIES MISTAKES, OR GAMBLE OUR INTEGRITY FOR A FEDERAL CONTRACT WITH A DOCUMENTED TRACK RECORD OF DUE PROCESS VIOLATIONS AND RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.

TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY COMES FROM SMART, CONSTITUTIONAL POLICING, NOT FROM POLITICAL THEATER.

WE CAN KEEP OUR CITY SAFE WITHOUT TURNING OUR POLICE OFFICERS INTO FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AGENTS.

WE CAN SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT SURRENDERING OUR VALUES, AND WE CAN PROTECT DALLAS WITHOUT PUTTING ITS RESIDENTS AND ITS REPUTATION AT RISK.

CHIEF COMO MADE THE RIGHT CALL FINANCIALLY, ETHICALLY, AND FOR THE LONG TERM SAFETY AND STABILITY OF OUR ENTIRE CITY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL BASADO.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I TO SUPPORT OUR CHIEF AND HIS DECISION.

I BELIEVE IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO A CHIEF, ESPECIALLY OF HIS TENURE, TO KNOW AND BE AS IN TOUCH AS HE IS WITH THE SENTIMENT OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS TODAY, FROM EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT ACROSS EVERY CORNER OF OUR CITY.

OUT OF 74 SIGNED UP SPEAKERS, SIX OF THEM CAME IN FAVOR.

HALF OF THAT SIX, WERE NOT DALLAS RESIDENTS.

I THINK THE MESSAGE IS VERY CLEAR.

I'M DEEPLY DISTURBED BY MAYOR JOHNSON'S PROPOSAL TO HAVE OUR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT COLLABORATE WITH S IN THE FIRST PLACE.

LET'S BE CLEAR. THIS IS NOT ABOUT SAFETY.

THIS IS ABOUT POLITICS BEING PLAYED AT THE EXPENSE OF PEOPLE'S LIVES.

THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOTHING TO MAKE OUR CITY SAFER.

WHAT IT DOES IS SPREAD FEAR IN OUR COMMUNITIES, DRIVING A WEDGE BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, FAMILIES, AND THOSE WHO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO BUILD THIS CITY.

IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT OUTSIDERS.

THEY ARE THE BACKBONE OF DALLAS.

THEY ARE OUR TEACHERS, OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, OUR HEALTH CARE WORKERS, OUR CONSTRUCTION CREWS, OUR NEIGHBORS, AND OUR FRIENDS.

TO TURN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT INTO AN ARM OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, UNDERMINES TRUST AND DESTROYS THE VERY RELATIONSHIPS THAT KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFE.

IT SENDS A CHILLING MESSAGE TO IMMIGRANT FAMILIES THAT DALLAS IS NO LONGER A CITY OF INCLUSION, COMPASSION, AND JUSTICE.

I WILL ALWAYS STAND AGAINST ANY ACTION THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY TARGETS OR HARASSES ALREADY MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS.

WE MUST NEVER NORMALIZE POLICIES ROOTED IN FEAR, PREJUDICE OR POLITICAL AMBITION.

DALLAS MUST ALWAYS STAND ON THE SIDE OF HUMANITY.

WE MUST STAND AGAINST FASCISM, RACISM, CLASSISM, HOMOPHOBIA, ISLAMOPHOBIA, ANTI SEMITISM, AGAINST EVERY FORM OF HATE THAT SEEKS TO DIVIDE US.

THIS CITY'S GREATNESS HAS ALWAYS COME FROM ITS DIVERSITY, ITS RESILIENCE, AND ITS UNITY, AND WE WILL NOT ALLOW FOR THAT TO BE TORN APART IN THE NAME OF ONE PERSON'S POLITICAL GAIN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I TOO WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT.

IT WAS A DIVERSE CROWD.

IT WAS BROAD ACROSS THE CITY.

AND I THINK WE HEARD THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR.

OUR SPEAKERS TODAY SHARED MANY KEY WORDS, KIDNAPPING, FEAR, TRUST BREAKING, ANXIETY, TERROR, DEMONIZING, AND SCARED.

THOSE WORDS ARE STRONG ADJECTIVES BY INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I DON'T EVER WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL FEAR.

THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK OUT AND BE PART OF THIS PROCESS AND BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND NOT FEAR OF CALLING THE POLICE BECAUSE SOMETHING IS HAPPENING, OR COMING TO A FOOD BANK BECAUSE THEY NEED A LITTLE EXTRA HELP THAT MONTH.

WHAT MAKES THE US AND AMERICA DIFFERENT IS OUR DUE PROCESS.

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WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR IS WE'VE SEEN A LACK OF DUE PROCESS.

A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THEY'VE BEEN THROWN OUT THE WINDOW.

IT'S NOT A LEFT OR A RIGHT.

IT IS ABOUT THE RULE OF LAW.

WHAT IS HUMANE AND WHAT IS INHUMANE.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING ACROSS OUR CITIES IS JUST NOT WHO WE ARE AS A NATION, AND IT BREAKS MY HEART.

WE'VE HAD THE FORTUNATE MY KIDS OTHER MOTHER WAS A WOMAN WHO WAS HERE UNDOCUMENTED, AND SHE HELPED ME RAISE OUR BOYS, AND WE HAD A PLAN, IF ANYTHING, EVER HAPPENED, BECAUSE SHE HAD TWO BOYS THAT WERE BORN HERE.

NOBODY SHOULD LIVE LIKE THAT.

PEOPLE SHOULD LIVE BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE A PROCESS, FOLLOW THE PROCESS IN WHICH TO BECOME A CITIZEN AND DON'T WAVER FROM IT.

>> WE LIVE IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY, AND WE HAVE THE STATUE OF LIBERTY, AND IT HAS THOSE FAMOUS WORDS ON THAT BRONZE PLAQUE THAT SAYS, GIVE ME YOU'RE TIRED, YOUR POOR, YOU'RE HUDDLED MASSES, YEARNING TO BREATHE FREE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.

AND I THINK WHAT WE SAW HERE TODAY WAS EXACTLY THAT, IS THAT WE WANT THESE RELATIONSHIPS.

WE WANT THE POLICE CHIEF AND HIS COMMAND STAFF IN THE RANK AND FILE TO CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH OF BUILDING STRONG COMMUNITIES.

THAT IS BASED ON TRUST.

AND SO I, TOO, WILL BE SUPPORTING OUR CHIEF IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION AND NOT PARTICIPATING IN THIS BECAUSE WE HIRED HIM TO DO HIS JOB, AND THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS HE WANTS TO RECOMMEND, AND I STAND BY THEM. SO THANK YOU, CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BLACKMAN.

COUNCILWOMAN LAURA.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I SUPPORT THE CHIEF AND THANK EVERYONE WHO PROVIDED INPUT, WHETHER YOU SENT AN EMAIL OR TOOK THE TIME OFF WORK TO LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD.

I THINK WE OVERWHELMINGLY HEARD THAT DALLAS IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM.

PROGRAMS LIKE 287 G THREATEN TO UNDO YEARS OF PROGRESS.

THEY PUSH OUR COMMUNITIES INTO THE SHADOWS.

WE HAVE INVESTED TOO MUCH IN TRUST, TRANSPARENCY, AND TRAINING TO LET FEAR AND A BAD POLICY DESTROY THAT PROGRESS.

LET'S TRUST THE POLICE WHEN THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS.

WE MUST MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER AS ONE DALLAS, FORWARD TOWARD A CITY WHERE TRUST REPLACES FEAR, AND UNITY REPLACES DIVISION.

FORWARD TOWARD A DALLAS, WHERE EVERY FAMILY, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY CAME FROM, FEEL SAFE, VALUED, AND HEARD.

BECAUSE WHEN WE COME TOGETHER, THERE IS NOTHING STRONGER THAN THE SPIRIT OF DALLAS, A CITY BUILT ON COURAGE, COMPASSION, AND COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU, COUNSEL WOMAN. COUNSEL MAN ROTH.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. I ALSO WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO CAME OUT TODAY.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY'S PASSION.

THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD EDUCATION FOR ME PERSONALLY.

IT'S BEEN A GOOD AMOUNT OF INFORMATION TO HELP ME EVALUATE HOW WE CRAFT OUR GOVERNANCE DECISIONS GENERALLY ON BEHALF OF OUR RESIDENTS, NOT ONLY FOR THIS ISSUE, BUT THE PROCESS IS A GOOD TEMPLATE ON HOW WE MAKE FUTURE DECISIONS THAT ARE DIFFICULT AND AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS DIRECTLY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE TODAY ON BEHALF OF YOURSELF AND SPEAKING UP FOR THOSE WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.

[FOREIGN].

IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE AN OPEN PROCESS AND WE GIVE OUR RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.

IT IS JUST AS IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

I HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH BOTH NEIGHBORS, MEMBERS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TO LISTEN AND ENGAGE IN HEALTHY CONVERSATION.

TODAY, I ALSO HEARD FROM IS OFFICIALS IN OUR CHIEF.

AND IT'S CLEAR THAT MOST DALLAS RESIDENTS DO NOT WANT US TO ENROLL IN 287 G. THE DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO DO NOT FEEL THAT THIS WOULD BE A POSITIVE PARTNERSHIP.

THEY KNOW THAT THIS WILL PULL THEM AWAY FROM OUR PRIORITY ONE CALLS.

THIS PARTNERSHIP WILL LEAD TO LONGER CALL TIMES.

I FEAR THAT THIS AGREEMENT WOULD ALSO RESULT IN SOME OF OUR OFFICERS LEAVING OUR FORCE.

THIS WILL ABSOLUTELY LEAD TO FEWER CALLS FOR HELP.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS WORKED FOR YEARS TO BUILD AND TO SAFEGUARD COMMUNITY TRUST, AND WE CANNOT AFFORD TO ERODE AND ERASE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

WANT TO SEE DPD FOCUS ON TAKING DOWN VIOLENT CRIMINALS.

I WANT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE DRUGS AND WEAPONS OFF OUR STREETS.

I WANT OUR RESPONSE TIMES TO CONTINUE TO GO DOWN.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS AN IMMENSE NUMBER OF

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RESOURCES FAR BEYOND OUR OWN TO HANDLE IMMIGRATION RELATED MATTERS.

THAT'S NOT THE CITY'S FUNCTION, NOR SHOULD IT BE.

WE GAVE ICE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY AND TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND THEY FAILED TO CONVINCE ME THAT THIS WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO OUR CITY.

I HAVE PREVIOUSLY SAID THAT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, INCLUDING OURS, ARE COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.

THIS WAS REAFFIRMED EARLIER TODAY WHEN YOU HEARD OUR POLICE CHIEF SAY, WE HAVE OUR LANE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS THEIR LANE.

IF DALLAS FELT THAT ENROLLING IN THE 287 G PROGRAM WAS WARRANTED, WE WOULD HAVE DONE SO YEARS AGO.

THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK AS HARD AS IT CAN TO ENFORCE LOCAL LAWS THAT WE ARE TASKED WITH ENFORCING.

ACCEPTING DOLLARS TIED TO 287 G WILL RESULT IN COMMUNITY DISTRUST, AND IT WILL TAKE DECADES TO REBUILD THAT TRUST.

AS I LATINO MYSELF, I UNDERSTAND THE FEAR THAT COMES WITH RACIAL PROFILING.

JUST BECAUSE I WEAR SUIT DOES NOT SHIELD ME OR MY FAMILY FROM RACIAL PROFILING THAT WILL HAPPEN UNDER 287 G. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FAMILIES DO NOT LIVE IN FEAR.

HEARING STORIES FROM [FOREIGN] HAS BEEN HEARTBREAKING, KNOWING THAT DOCUMENTED KIDS ARE GOING TO FEAR GOING TO THE PARK WITH THEIR FAMILY, SIMPLY TO KICK A SOCCER BALL.

THAT IS SIMPLY WRONG.

I HAVE BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO STAND WITH THEM.

TODAY, I WILL BE BACKING OUR POLICE CHIEF'S DECISION TO NOT JOIN THE 287 G MODEL.

OUR ROLE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS MUST BE TO SAFEGUARD THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I URGE US TO REJECT THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU, CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU [INAUDIBLE]. COUNCIL RIDLEY.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I AM OPPOSED TO SUPPORTING ANY PROGRAM THAT WOULD DETRACT FROM OUR OFFICERS' MISSION TO UPHOLD PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND MAINTAIN PUBLIC TRUST.

THE NOTION OF ENTERING INTO A 287 G AGREEMENT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR DALLAS AND IS PURELY POLITICAL.

IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS A FEDERAL RESPONSIBILITY.

I WILL NOT SUPPORT DIVERTING LOCAL RESOURCES TOWARD A POLITICAL OR PARTISAN AGENDA.

I APPLAUD CHIEF COMO FOR THE WORK HE HAS ALREADY DONE HERE IN DALLAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM AS HE CONTINUES TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MILEY, CHAIR MIDDLESON.

>> THANK YOU. I HAVE DEEP RESPECT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT.

AND PUBLIC SAFETY REMAINS MY TOP PRIORITY AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND AS CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.

I BELIEVE IT IS THE MOST URGENT ISSUE FACING OUR CITY.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO SERVE IN A PROFESSION THAT TAKES STEADFAST COMMITMENT AND OFTEN INVOLVES DIFFICULT AND DANGEROUS WORK TO UPHOLD OUR LAWS AND PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES BOTH LOCALLY AND ACROSS THE NATION.

I THINK THIS COUNCIL SHOULD GIVE GREAT CREDENCE TO THE OPERATIONAL JUDGMENT OF OUR POLICE CHIEF.

I THINK WE LEARNED A LOT TODAY ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM WORKS, THINGS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW, PERHAPS OTHERS DID, BUT I WAS NOT AWARE OF, AND I THINK THAT MADE THIS A VERY VALUABLE, ALTHOUGH VERY LONG SESSION.

WHAT WE HEARD IS THAT IT WILL TAKE OFFICERS OFF THE STREET.

AND IT WOULD TAKE THEM OFF THE STREET IN THE OFTEN-REPEATED TRAFFIC STOP SCENARIO, BECAUSE AS SOON AS THEY WOULD CALL ICE, THEY WOULD THEN WAIT, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSPORTING AND DOCUMENTATION.

THAT LITERALLY MEANS THEY WOULD BE OFF THE STREETS.

AND WHILE WE WOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR THEIR SALARY, I THINK UP TO 100,000 PLUS 25% OVERTIME, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO NOT HAVE EVERY OFFICER ON THE STREET.

I'LL CONTINUE TO SAY WE NEED MORE OFFICERS.

CRIME HAS GONE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY LATELY, AND EVERY YEAR IT'S TRENDING DOWN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

AND WE SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF THAT, AND EVERYONE HERE HAS SUPPORTED THAT AND INVESTED IN IT, AND WE HAVE TO CONTINUE BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE HIGHER CRIME THAN WE SHOULD.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO LISTEN TO WHAT THE OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD BE.

I WILL ALSO NOTE WE DO AN ANNUAL EVALUATION BY AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION TO LOOK AT OUR TRAFFIC STOPS AND EVALUATE DO WE HAVE RACIAL PROFILING, AND WE DO NOT STATISTICALLY PROVEN.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY BECAUSE THERE IS A HEIGHTENED CONCERN ABOUT LOTS OF THINGS RELATED TO IMMIGRATION RIGHT NOW.

THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I HAVE VERY GREAT CONCERN FOR OUR CITY GOVERNANCE, AND I BELIEVE THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CITY COUNCIL DECISION,

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AND WE SHOULD HAVE EVALUATED THIS WITH INPUT FROM OUR CHIEF, BUT I BELIEVE THAT DECISION SHOULD HAVE RESIDED WITH US.

NOW, WE HEARD FROM OUR CITY MANAGER THAT SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY DID NOT TAKE A POSITION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY CLOUDY DECISION.

I THINK YOU COULD ARGUE BOTH SIDES OF THIS.

AND WE SHOULD PUT IN PLACE A TRIGGER THAT SAYS, WHEN THERE'S AN OPERATIONAL DECISION IN ANY DEPARTMENT THAT'S OF A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, IT SHOULD REVERT BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR INPUT.

AND I THINK THAT RIGHT HERE, THIS ENTIRE EXERCISE SHOULD BE A LESSON TO US THAT THAT SHOULD HAPPEN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR MIDDLESON.

I WANT TO THANK REPRESENTATIVE ICE FOR COMING OUT TODAY.

I WANT TO THANK CHIEF COMO AND THE DPD, CITY MANAGER, FOR COMING OUT AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION.

A LOT OF MY COMMUNITY ASKED ME WHY DID I MAKE STATEMENTS EARLIER.

THE REASON WAS BECAUSE I'M CHAIR IN THIS POSITION, THE CHAIR IN THIS MEETING, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I OPERATED WITH INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER.

SO I'LL MAKE MY STATEMENTS NOW.

FIRST, LET ME SAY THAT QUESTIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED BY BOTH ICE REPRESENTATIVES AND DPD WAS TO GIVE BOTH ICE AND DPD DIRECTION.

IT DID NOT MEAN DO NOT COME PREPARED.

TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS FROM THIS COUNCIL.

THAT WAS A BIT DISINGENUOUS WHEN I CONTINUED TO HEAR ICE NOT BE PREPARED FOR IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT WE ADD.

EVERY WEEK, I PUT MY HAND OVER MY HEART WHEN YOU TAKE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND WE SAY FOR LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MY COMMUNITY IS VERY DIVERSE. BLACK AND BROWN.

MY ENTIRE LIFE, I'VE ADVOCATED FOR BLACK AND BROWN.

IN MY COMMUNITY, WE HAVE A SAY WHEN WE PAY DOMINOES.

OUR MONEY, NOT GOOD MONEY.

AND SO WHEN I'M LISTENING TO WHAT'S BEING SAID, AND UNDERSTANDING THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN WHEN MY BROWN COMMUNITY THAT I PASTOR, THAT I SERVE WITH IN THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN I WAS A SCHOOL BOARD TRUSTEE, AND LISTENING TO FAMILIES, AFRAID TO COME TO SCHOOL, NOT KNOWING WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

THEIR MOMS AND DADS BEING TAKEN FROM THEM.

AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CRIMINALS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE THAT GIVE TO SOCIETY.

IT IS HARD FOR ME TO SUPPORT ANY ORGANIZATION THAT RIPS UP HOMES JUST BECAUSE OF SKIN COLOR.

LISTENING TO ICE AND DPD, I SUPPORT CHIEF COMO'S DECISION BASED ON WHAT I HEARD TODAY.

RESPONSE TIME WILL BE AFFECTED.

IT WILL MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES LACK.

IT WOULD TAKE THE SECURITY, THE TRUST AWAY FROM WHAT WE ARE BUILDING HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS AS A BLACK MAN IN OUR BLACK COMMUNITY TO BE RACIALLY PROFILED.

I KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ATTACKED FOR BEING BLACK. WE'VE SEEN IT.

AND TO SEE THIS HAPPEN IN OUR NEWS, TO SEE KIDS BE TERRIFIED, NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT, IS SOMETHING THAT I CANNOT SUPPORT.

SO TO THE COMMUNITY OF DISTRICT FOUR, I WAS QUIET BECAUSE INTEGRITY SAYS TO BE QUIET.

BUT MY PASSION IS CLEAR.

WE WILL BUILD THE COMMUNITY WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT RACISM.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE MONEY BECAUSE OUR MONEY AIN'T GOOD MONEY, AND WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT OUR CHIEF, OUR POLICE.

THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

CRIME IS DOWN UNDER MAYOR'S LEADERSHIP, UNDER CHIEF COMO.

SO WHY DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT? LET'S CONTINUE TO BUILD THIS CITY TOGETHER AND RESPECT OUR DIVERSITY AND WHAT WE HAVE GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIR?

>> I MOVE TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT THE CITY DOES NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE 287 G PROGRAM.

>> I HAVE A MOTION.

>> WHAT'S YOUR MOTION?

>> POINT OF ORDER.

>> WHAT'S YOUR POINT OF ORDER?

>> WELL, THE CITY MANAGER TOLD US THAT IT WASN'T OUR DECISION.

I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED TO WEIGH IN WHEN WE'VE BEEN TOLD IT WAS AN OPERATIONAL DECISION.

>> MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN WEIGH IN?

>> THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN IN. IT IS AN OPERATIONAL DECISION.

HOWEVER, THE MEMO ALSO RECOMMENDED IN THE MAYOR'S MEMO THAT WE RECOMMEND, SO I WILL ACCEPT THAT MOTION.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?