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IS THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.IT IS NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025 AT 11:03 AM CAN WE START WITH THE ROLL CALL MS. LOPEZ? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBEN.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR, UH, TO DR.
AUDREA FOR A BRIEFING ON OUR ANNUAL REPORT.
IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.
WELCOME TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS.
MY FIRST TIME SPEAKING IN FRONT OF SOME OF THE NEW COMMISSIONERS.
UM, BECAUSE THE FISCAL YEAR IS OVER, AS YOU KNOW, ANNUALLY, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT A CPC CITY PLAN COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT ON YOUR ACTIVITY.
UM, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE PRINTED FORMS ALREADY, AND I'M GONNA START AND KICK OFF THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN I'M GONNA GIVE IT TO, I'M GONNA LET THE EXPERTS TO FINISH WITH DATA IN NUMBERS, UM, PRESENTATION FOR EVERYBODY.
I AM THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR ZONING FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, AND I AM HERE WITH SARAH MAY AND MICHAEL PEPPI.
THEY ARE THE LEADERS OF THE ZONING TEAM, UM, AND MAINLY THE LIAISONS AND THE ONES THAT ARE WORKING WITH CITY PLAN COMMISSION TOGETHER WITH OUR WONDERFUL, UH, ZONING TEAM.
JUST A SECOND SO I CAN START SHARING MY SCREEN.
CAN I GO TO THE ALL TWO, GO TO THE TOP LEFT.
GO TO, UH, VIEW, UH, FULL SCREEN.
SO I WILL START THE, UM, ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR THAT ENDED IN SEP ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, UM, BASED ON THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION ACTIVITY.
I WILL JUST KICK IT OFF WITH, UM, SOME HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, I'M ALSO FILLING IN FOR OUR, UH, DIRECTOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, EMILY LI.
SHE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT, UM, THIS IS IMPORTANT TO HER AND I'M FILLING IN FOR HER.
UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, FROM LAST YEAR, UM, UM, OUR DEPARTMENT IS A BIG DEPARTMENT, IS ALMOST 350 PEOPLE.
UM, WE ENCOMPASS, UM, ALL THE PLANNING, ZONING, AND PERMITTING FUNCTIONS.
SO WE'RE THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
WE DO HAVE OUR DEPARTMENT MISSION STATEMENT.
TOGETHER, WE ARE BUILDING A A, WE ARE PLANNING AND BUILDING A BETTER DALLAS FOR ALL.
WE COVER ALL THE FUNCTIONS FROM PLANNING FOR VISIONING UP TO LIKE PERMITTING AND, UM, JUST INSPECTION, UM, A LITTLE BIT.
THE WRITING IS VERY TINY, BUT JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT OUR DEPARTMENT DOES AND WHERE YOUR, UM, CITY PLAN COMMISSION TEAM FITS IN.
AS I SAID, OUR DE OUR DIRECTOR EMILY LOU IS, UM, OUR FEARLESS LEADER.
WE'RE PART OF THE GROWING PORTFOLIO.
OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IS ROBIN BENTLEY.
UM, WE HAVE FOUR MAIN, UH, TEAMS OR SUB DEPARTMENTS IN THE DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THAT IS LED BY ANDREA GILLIS.
UM, THEY, UM, USUALLY DO PLANNING WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
THEY ALSO HAVE THE GIS FUNCTION, SO THEY'RE THE VISIONING SIDE OF OUR DEPARTMENT.
THEN WE HAVE THE ZONING TEAM, WHICH IS LED BY ME.
UM, THAT COVERS EVERYTHING FROM CODE AMENDMENTS, EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH CHAPTER 51 A AND 51 BASICALLY
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WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CODE, CODE AMENDMENTS, WE HAVE SPECIAL ZONING PROJECTS, WHAT YOU SEE, LIKE, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLAN, MINOR AMENDMENTS.WE DO ZONING REVIEW FOR PERMITTING, ZONING REVIEW.
WE HAVE THE ARBORISTS WITH US.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE STRATEGY AND IMPROVEMENT PORTIONS.
SUBDIVISION AND PLATS ARE WITH US AS WELL.
BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS WITH US.
AND LAST AND NOT LEAST IS THE REZONING TEAM LED BY MICHAEL IS ALSO IN OUR PORTFOLIO.
THEN WE HAVE THE PERMITTING PORTFOLIO THAT IS LED BY SAM ESKANDER, WHO'S OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL.
UM, HE'S DIVIDED INTO THREE PORTION COMMERCIAL PERMITTING, RESIDENTIAL PERMITTING AND INSPECTIONS.
AND THEN WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY THE INTERNAL DEPARTMENT THAT IS CUSTOMER SERVICE AND INTERNAL AND EX TEAM EXCELLENCE.
THAT COVERS OUR HR AND BUDGET AND ALL THE MANAGEMENT FUNCTIONS.
UM, I KNOW THIS HAPPENED IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, BUT IT'S, I WE WILL ALWAYS, UH, START PROBABLY WITH THIS SLIDE AS A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT OF YOU AND THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, FOR DALLAS PASSED IN THE LAST FISCAL FISCAL YEAR, IT WAS, AGAIN, A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT.
IT, IT WON AWARDS BY SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS.
AND THIS IS JUST AN INTRODUCTION TO BASICALLY THE OTHER BIGGEST ENDEAVOR THAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS LEADING STARTING LAST YEAR, WHICH IS THE DOLLAR ZONING REFORM.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS UPDATED FOR DALLAS, WAS UPDATED, AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING INTO UPDATING OUR ZONING CODE, CHAPTER 51 AND 51 A.
THIS BODY WAS AND WILL BE CONTINUE TO BE BRIEFED THROUGHOUT THE JOURNEY.
UM, YOU ARE BASICALLY, UH, OUR FIRST PARTNERS, OR IT STARTS WITH YOU MORE THAN WITH US.
UH, WE ENVISIONED, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, UH, UH, LIKE A SLOGAN TO BE, WE ENVISION A CODE TO BE SIMPLE, CLEAR, AND FUTURE READY.
UM, I WILL JUST MENTION FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS THAT THE CODE THAT WE'RE OPERATING ON RIGHT NOW, IT'S TECHNICALLY THE SAME CODE FROM THE SIXTIES THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT UPDATED IN THE EIGHTIES.
SO WE WOULD THINK THAT THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN, UM, US WOULD WARRANT THE ZONING CODE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND MORE FUTURE READY.
UM, ANOTHER BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAD THIS YEAR, UM, IN APRIL OF 2025, UM, DALLAS IS I THINK THE FIRST AND ONLY CITY IN US THAT DID A MAJOR CHANGE IN THE WAY WE CAN ISSUE BUILDING PERMITS.
UM, IT WAS IN THIS INITIATIVE WAS, UM, INITIATED BY TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WE WERE PARTNERING.
AGAIN, IT GAINED NATIONAL ATTENTION AND RECOGNITION.
WHAT IT DOES, IT ALLOWS ONE TO EIGHT DWELLING UNITS TO BE BUILT UNDER THE IRC, WHICH IS INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE, UH, BEFORE THAT.
AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ZONING, IT'S JUST ABOUT BUILDING CODES.
UM, BEFORE THAT, EVERYTHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS THREE UNITS AND UP, WOULD HAVE TO, UH, BE BUILT BY THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, WHICH IS THE COMMERCIAL CODE.
SO BASICALLY ALL THE BUILDING REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, A 200, UH, UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING OR A WAREHOUSE OR A RETAIL OFFICE WOULD APPLY TO A THREE UNIT OR FIVE UNIT OR SIX UNIT, UM, TYPE OF BUILDING.
UM, TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS CHARGED US WITH THE TASK TO EXPLORE IF IT WOULD BE SAFE AND IF IT WOULD, UM, SUPPORT, BASICALLY ALLOWING SMALL MULTIPLEX TO USE THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING CODE.
WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE, WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH AMERICAN A, UM, UH, ARCHITECTS, UM, ASSOCIATION.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WORKED TOGETHER WITH A LOT OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AND WE CREATED A CODE THAT WOULD ALLOW US AN OPTION FOR, UM, A BUILDING THAT CONTAINS UP TO EIGHT UNITS TO BE BUILT ON THE IRC, WHICH IS A LESS ONEROUS TYPE OF CODE, STILL SAFE.
UM, NEXT OTHER BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT, AS YOU ALL KNOW BECAUSE IT'S YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENT, YOU'VE BEEN, UH, BRIEFED ON IT AS WELL, IS THE PARKING REFORM THAT PASSED CITY COUNCIL IN MAY.
UH, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE CREATED A MORE, MORE FLEXIBLE FRAMEWORK WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
WE ARE HOPING THAT WE WILL ADD THE ADDITIONAL LAYERS OF DESIGN STANDARDS FOR PARKING WITH OUR PAR WITH OUR CODE REFORM, UH, IN THE NEXT YEARS.
UH, BUT NEVERTHELESS, THIS WAS, UM, A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT AND AS I SAID,
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OF, UM, CITY PLAN COMMISSION AND I THINK THE ENTIRE CITY AS AT LARGE.ANOTHER BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT OR ABOUT, UH, UH, THING THAT WE LIKE TO BRAG ON BECAUSE IT WAS YEARS IN THE MAKING AND WE WERE REALLY BEHIND, SEVERELY BEHIND.
UM, WE ARE NOW USING AN ELECTRONIC PLATFORM TO PROCESS ALL PERMITS AND ZONING APPLICATIONS.
UM, WE HAD A GRACE PERIOD, A TRANSITION PERIOD.
WE STILL HAVE, IT IS A COMPLEX, A VERY, VERY COMPLEX, UM, PLATFORM OR APPLICATION, BUT SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF IT.
WE HAD TO TRANSFER OVER 41 EXISTING PAPERS, ZONING APPLICATIONS, UH, UH, AND OTHER TYPE OF APPLICATIONS TO DIGITAL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING CHANGES THAT ARE COMING IN FRONT OF YOU OR PLAIDS.
THOSE WERE ALWAYS, ALWAYS PAPER TYPE OF PROCESS.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY ARE FULLY ELECTRONIC.
I THINK THE TRANSITION ITSELF TO TOOK TWO TO THREE YEARS, BUT IT WAS IN PLACE AND IT WAS STARTED A LITTLE BIT MORE, A LITTLE MORE YEARS THAN THAT.
UM, WE STILL HAVE GROWING PAINS.
UM, WE ARE HAVING ADDITIONAL ROUNDS OF IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE COLLECTING EVERY FEEDBACK YOU WERE BRIEFED ON IT.
WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND BRIEF MORE.
WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO BRING THE TECHNICAL TEAM TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS.
BUT AS I SAY, PLEASE DO, CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT YOU ARE USERS OF THE FLAT PLATFORM, THE, UH, COMMUNITY IS A USER OF A PLATFORM THE SAME AS APPLICANTS.
IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING, PLEASE DO REACH OUT TO US AND LET US KNOW.
WE ENVISIONED AND EMBEDDED IN THIS TRANSITION ADDITIONAL PHASES OF IMPROVEMENT.
SO IF SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK, WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO IMPROVE IT, ALLOW IT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME BECAUSE IT'S A PLATFORM THAT IS BY A THIRD PARTY AND THEY HAVE TO DO IT IN BULK.
SO THAT'S WHY WE GATHER INPUT AND THEN WE LET THEM KNOW AND THAT THEY WILL IMPLEMENT IT IN FEW MONTHS.
UM, SO AS I SAID, THIS IS, UM, IT'S CALLED, THE PLATFORM IS CALLED DALLAS NOW.
UM, IT, IT IS PRETTY COMPLICATED COMPLEX, BUT CONTAINS MORE INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC THAN OUR PAPER PROCESS USED TO.
UM, ANOTHER UM, THING THAT HAPPENED, OR EVENT THAT HAPPENED IN THIS PAST YEAR IS THE FACT THAT, UM, STATE PASSED NEW LAWS THAT SEVERELY IMPACT ZONING.
YOU HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS AS WELL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IT'S NOT A BILL ANYMORE.
IT IS THE TEXAS LAW NUMBER EIGHT 40 THAT ALLOWS MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL ZONING OR IN ANY ZONING DESIGNATION THAT ALLOWS OFFICE, RETAIL WAREHOUSE AND MIXED USE.
AND I, OH, YEAH, WE WOULD'VE, WE SHOULD HAVE ADDED ANOTHER SLIDE TO TALK ABOUT SB OR I'M SORRY, STATE LAW NUMBER 15.
THAT ALLOWS UP TO FIVE ACRES LAND THAT IS NOT PLOTTED TO BE PLATTED OR TO BE USED FOR SMALLER LOTS THAN, UM, THE ZONING CURRENTLY ALLOWS.
AGAIN, AS I SAID, YOU HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON BOTH OF THESE BILLS.
WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME AND BRIEF YOU AGAIN.
THE BILLS, THE LAWS, THE LAWS, I'M SORRY ABOUT THIS SLIP CAME INTO EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST.
UM, UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH APPLICANTS.
WE HAVE SEEN INTEREST, UM, GOOD AMOUNT OF INTEREST FROM, UM, FUTURE DEVELOPERS FOR BOTH BILLS, MORE FOR EIGHT 40 THAN 15.
UM, AND WE ARE DUE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A BRIEFING OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN SINCE SEPTEMBER.
UM, AND ONCE WE DO THAT, WE WILL COME AND BRIEF YOU AS WELL.
WE'RE GATHERING DATA TO SEE WHICH AREAS OF THE CITY ARE MORE ACTIVE, WHAT TYPE OF PROJECTS ARE BECOMING MORE ACTIVE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND WE WILL REPORT TO YOU AS WELL, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CLOSELY MONITORING.
I WOULD ALSO MAKE A COMMENT THAT, UM, THIS STATE LAW, NEW STATE LAW, BECAUSE IT BASICALLY SUPERSEDES OUR LOCAL ZONING, ALL OF THESE CHANGES WILL BE INCLUDED IN OUR ZONING CODE WITH THE ZONING REFORM.
WE WILL LET YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE GONNA APPROACH THAT IF IT'S PHASED OR NOT, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
AND THEN, UM, THE LAST TWO SLIDES THAT I HAVE IS OUR DEPARTMENT GOALS THAT I WANTED YOU TO KNOW BECAUSE, UM, YOU NEED, AGAIN, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT WOULD WE DO ASPIRE AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
UM, WE HAD SEVEN GOALS LAST YEAR.
WE WANNA CHANGE THEM EVERY YEAR BECAUSE WE ACCOMPLISH THEM.
THE GOAL OF A GOAL IS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED, RIGHT? UH, SO FOR NEXT, UH, FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THESE ARE OUR SIX GOALS.
WE WANNA ADDRESS LAND USE AND ZONING INCONSISTENCIES, PRO MORE, PROMOTE MORE TRANSIT ORIENTED AND MIXED USE CORRIDOR, AND IMPROVE RESIDENTIAL DESIGN
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STANDARDS TO ADVANCE FOR DALLAS 2.0.UH, WE WANNA ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN SHAPING THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE DALLAS ZONING REFORM.
SO THAT'S THE STAGE OF THE ZONING REFORM THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
UM, WE WANNA CONTINUE TO STREAMLINE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND ENHANCE COORDINATION ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO DELIVER SEAMLESS, EFFICIENT REVIEWS.
UM, WE, UH, ALL AGREE AND THAT OBVIOUSLY NEW IS NOT A NEW DISCOVERY THAT, UH, A PART OF A BIG PART OF THE SUCCESS OF DEVELOPMENT IN DALLAS IS NOT JUST PERMITTING, IT'S ALSO CROSS DEPARTMENT COLLABORATION.
AND WE WANNA, WE ARE ALWAYS GOOD ABOUT THAT.
WE WANNA CONTINUE AND IMPROVE, UH, WHERE IS NEEDED.
UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO KNOW AS WELL.
THE LAST THREE GOALS ARE, UM, OBVIOUSLY CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WE KEEP ON CONTINUING TO REMI REIMAGINE CUSTOMER SERVICE BY UTILIZING NEW AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES.
DALLAS NOW WAS ONLY A LOW PART OF IT.
UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TOOLS TO DELIVER FASTER, MORE TRANSPARENT CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AT THE SPEED OF BUSINESS.
UH, WE WANNA, WE WANT OUR DEPARTMENT TO BE WAY MORE ACCESSIBLE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW FOR ALL THE CUSTOMERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND YOU OF COURSE, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA CONTINUE OUR, UH, TEAMWORK AND ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
I THINK THE MERGER FOR SOME OF, UH, THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU KNOW, WE USED TO BE TWO DEPARTMENTS.
WE MERGED TOGETHER PLANNING AND ZONING WITH PERMITTING LAST YEAR.
I THINK IT DID WONDERS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT IS IN DALLAS.
I THINK IT DID WONDERS FOR THE CULTURE, INTERNAL CULTURE BECAUSE NOW WE'RE TOGETHER BASICALLY SAME HANDS ON THE SAME PROCESS AND WE WANNA CONTINUE TO, TO DO THAT WORK.
AND THEN, UM, THE SIX, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY MY FAVORITE, UH, ELEVATED DEPARTMENT TO NATIONAL RECOGNITION FOR INNOVATION AND EXCELLENT IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, ATTRACTING TALENT AND ADVANCING ECONOMIC VITALITY.
UM, I WOULD TALK HOURS ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING NEW BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE BEEN MORE IN TRANSITION, MORE IN FIXING MODE, AND NOW WE CAN GO OUT AND, UM, ALSO BE THE LEADERS WHEN IT COMES TO BEST PRACTICES.
AND WE ALSO, I'M INCREDIBLY PROUD AS I WAS WELCOMING SOME OF THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE SUCH A STRONG ZONING TEAM FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LONG, IN A LONG, UH, STRING OF YEARS.
I'M VERY PROUD OF THEM AND I WANNA CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT.
WHEN I STARTED AS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO, I MADE IT MY MISSION FOR THE PLANNING, AT LEAST FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING TEAM IN THE CITY OF DALLAS TO BE BASICALLY THE PLACE TO BE FOR ANYBODY WHO'S A PLANNING AND ZONING SPECIALIST.
AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
UM, I WILL ALSO MENTION THAT PROBABLY YOU'LL SEE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRAG A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
UM, ALMOST ALL OF US, THE ONES WHO ARE WORKING IN PLANNING AND ZONING, WERE CERTIFIED PLANNERS.
THAT'S A VERY HARD EXAM TO TAKE.
UM, IT COMES WITH A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY.
WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEIR CERTIFICATION IS AS IMPORTANT AS IT IS, UH, THE ENGINEERING ONE FOR ENGINEERS.
FOR INSTANCE, I WOULD ALSO MENTION THAT OUR FEARLESS LEADER, EMILY LOU, SHE'S A FELLOW, A-I-C-P-A-A-C-P.
WHEN YOU SEE A ICP AFTER OUR, OUR NAMES KNOW THAT WE ARE CERTIFIED PLANNERS, MEANING, AGAIN, CONTINUED EDUCATION.
WE ARE REALLY PLANNERS WITH TONS OF DEGREES AND EXPERIENCE.
UM, EMILY LOU IS A FELLOW, A ICP, WHICH, UH, THE HIGHEST HONOR THAT A PLANNER CAN GET.
AND SHE'S ALSO A BOARD MEMBER FOR THE NATIONAL AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION.
WE ARE ALSO PLANNING, WE ALWAYS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE TEXAS CHAPTER.
WE'RE PLANNING TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN THAT.
BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO PUT DALLAS ON THE MAP AND NOT NECESSARILY BY POLICY BECAUSE THE POLICY MAKERS ARE CPC AND COUNCIL, BUT BY A GOOD ENVIRONMENT AND LEADING WITH PROFESSIONALS.
SO I WANTED TO TO TO BRAG ABOUT THAT IN PUBLIC.
AND I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WE WANNA BE RECOGNIZED NATIONWIDE, NOT REGIONWIDE ONLY.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK SO MUCH.
I WILL GIVE IT TO SARAH AND MICHAEL TO, UH, GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS AND THE ACTUAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF ALL THE ZONING CASES THAT PASS THREE AGENDAS THIS YEAR.
AS I SAID, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR VOLUNTEERING WORK AND FOR YOUR SERVICE.
IT IS, UH, FOR ME, IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT BOARD AND COMMISSION IN THE CITY.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
I, I, YEAH, I WAS GONNA ECHO THAT.
BECAUSE THE WORD THAT, THAT CAME TO MIND AS I, UM, AS WE GATHERED DATA ON THIS YEAR, UM, WAS PRODUCTIVE, UM, IS A VERY PRODUCTIVE YEAR.
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PRODUCTIVITY IS NOT POSSIBLE WITH ACTION AND HARD WORK AND EXHAUSTION, UH, TO A DEGREE FOR, FOR, FOR ALL OF YOU GUYS.SO YOU GUYS HAVE, UM, WORKED YOUR, WORKED FOR YOURSELF QUITE A BIT.
UM, SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT, UM, FOR BEING A GREAT TEAM PLAYER IN THIS OVERALL PROCESS OF MAKING A PRODUCTIVE YEAR.
UM, SO WE TOOK IN 232, UM, Z ITEMS, UH, OVER THE FISCAL YEAR.
UM, WE ULTIMATELY ACTED ON 227 HERE AT THE PLAN COMMISSION.
UH, THAT MAY INCLUDE SOME FROM PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT HEY, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING THINGS, UM, NEVERTHELESS, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, GETTING THINGS DONE, UM, PRESUMABLY SOME, SOME OF THOSE CASES FROM 2 32 MAY HAVE BEEN, UM, WINNOWED OFF AS THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T NEED TO BE A REQUEST AT OUR STAGE.
UM, SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE BEEN ACTED ON ULTIMATELY.
AND THEN TOTAL ITEMS 614 WAS INCLUDES YOUR, YOUR PLATS, YOUR, UH, WHAT ELSE WE DO, THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENTS, UH, CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS, ALL OF THAT STUFF.
SO THAT IS, THAT'S, THAT'S TOO MUCH, BUT IT'S BEEN DONE.
PRETTY TYPICAL NUMBER OF MEETINGS IN THE YEAR, OF COURSE, THE FOUR ADDITIONAL SPECIAL CALL MEETINGS FOR PARKING, UM, TO SAY THE LEAST.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO LET'S PUT THOSE NUMBERS IN CONTEXT, UM, BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS A POSITIVE INDICATOR ON OUR END.
UM, COMPARING WE HAD A LITTLE LESS ZONING ITEMS SUBMITTED, UM, THIS YEAR, A FISCAL YEAR THAN THE PREVIOUS, BUT MORE THAN THE ONE BEFORE THAT.
SO NOT, NOT TWO OUT OF THE ORDINARY.
UM, HOWEVER, WE ACTED ON, ON, ON MORE, UH, 227, AS I SAID, VERSUS 100 191 THE PREVIOUS YEAR, 144 THE PREVIOUS YEAR BEFORE THAT.
UM, AND MORE TOTAL ITEMS, UM, OVERALL MORE, MORE PLATS AND, AND Z UH, MISCELLANEOUS CASES AS WELL.
SO PAT YOURSELF ON, ON THE BACK, UM, FOR THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE GETTING MORE DONE, UM, IN THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.
UM, SIMILAR AMOUNT OF RESOURCES, RIGHT? UH, AS WE LOOK AT THE ACTION OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, I MEAN, PRETTY STEADY, UM, UP AND DOWN.
UM, HAD A HECK OF A, HAVE A HECK, HECK OF A FEBRUARY, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, AND, AND NOT ALL OF THAT WAS PASSED THEN.
UH, YOUR Z ACTION IS THERE IN THE GRAY BAR.
SO SOME OF THOSE CASES WERE PASSED, BUT, BUT EITHER WAY, THEY GOT PASSED OR ACTED ON IN THE, UH, FOLLOWING WEEKS AND WEEKS AND MONTHS AFTER THAT.
UM, AND THEN, SO KEPT, KEPT GOING, STEADY.
UM, NOT GONNA MAKE A SECRET OF THAT.
THERE WAS A DIP IN HOW MANY ITEMS MADE IT HERE.
UM, I CALL THAT THE DALLAS NOW DIP BECAUSE CASES WERE, YOU KNOW, NOT COMING IN IMMEDIATELY IN OUR FIRST MONTH AND A HALF OF DALLAS.
NOW THERE'S A TWO OR SO MONTH DELAY, UM, BETWEEN A, A POTENTIAL SUBMITTAL AND A POTENTIAL CASE.
OF COURSE, IT DOES GO BACK UP AGAIN, UM, RIGHT THERE.
AND, UM, MAINTAINING ABOVE THAT LEVEL.
SO, UH, NOT CONCERNING ON OUR END.
WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO AND, AND WE'LL HAVE WORK FOR YOU GUYS, UM, AS WELL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING I LIKE TO, TO DRAW ATTENTION TO, BUT NOW, I MEAN, THINGS ARE PICKING UP.
UM, OUR CUSTOMERS ARE WORKING WITH DALLAS NOW, UM, JUST FINE.
AND, AND SOME OF, SOME OF THEM LIKE IT.
SO, UH, DISTRICT BY DISTRICT, NOT PICKING ON ANYONE, BUT I MEAN, HOW DO WE IDENTIFY TRENDS IN THE CITY WITHOUT LOOKING AT, UM, THINGS DISTRICT BY DISTRICT? 'CAUSE VERY DIVERSE CITY.
UM, YOU KNOW,
UM, VERY BUSY IN DISTRICT TWO, VERY BUSY IN DISTRICT SIX, DISTRICT SEVEN, UH, DISTRICT FIVE.
UM, I NOTED CASES WITH HOUSING COMPONENTS.
SO WHETHER IT'S, UM, REZONING FOR DUPLEXES FROM SINGLE FAMILY OR A MULTI-FAMILY, FROM SOMETHING FROM COMMERCIAL OR SOMETHING ELSE, THINGS THAT INCREASE THE, THE HOUSING CAPACITY FOR THE CITY, SINCE THE HOUSING CRISIS STILL CONTINUES TO BE SO IMPORTANT TO, UH, THE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY.
UM, A LOT OF, A LOT OF DISTRICTS, UM, TOOK THAT ON.
UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO I'M, I'M SURE IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR CITYWIDE AND, UM, CAPTURED CITYWIDE, BUT HERE'S WHERE WE HAD TO DO WORK, UM, AT THIS LEVEL TO GET IT DONE.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN D SEVEN, D EIGHT FOUR AND, AND, UH, TWO.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE ACRES REZONE KIND OF FUN, UM, BUT KIND OF AS YOU'D EXPECT TO AGREE.
UH, DISTRICT EIGHT, VERY BUSY, LOT OF, LOT OF LAND, BUT, UM, LOTS OF THINGS TO, TO FIGURE OUT.
AND, AND I'M GONNA BE FRANK, A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE OUTDATED IN THE ZONING THERE THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS.
AND, AND I HOPE WE'RE GETTING THERE, UM, OVER TIME WITH FORWARD DALLAS AND
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WITH, UH, IMPLEMENTING FORWARD DALLAS ONE CASE AT A TIME, UM, AS WE DO IT.SO I'M, I'M, I THINK WE CAN HANG OUR HAT ON THAT.
UM, AND, UH, THAT EXPLAINS OUR ACREAGE ON, ON THAT ONE, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BIG FRACTION OF THE CITY, UH, 1,600 ACRES OF THE CITY OVERALL.
LET'S TALK ABOUT JUST THE PREVIOUS YEARS, UM, DISTRICT BY DISTRICT DATA COMPARED TO, UM, THIS YEAR'S, UM, SOME CHANGES IN HOW MANY CASES WENT THROUGH, UM, SOME NEW WORK.
UH, A LOT OF NEW WORK IN, UM, DISTRICT THREE, DISTRICT FOUR, UM, LARGE INCREASES IN THAT PERCENT CHANGE.
YOU CAN SEE, UM, EVEN, EVEN MORE IN DISTRICT 10.
UM, IT WENT FROM TWO TO SEVEN THERE, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S AN INCREASE.
UM, AND A LOT, A LOT OF THOSE WORK FOR HOUSING.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOTABLE AS WELL.
UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, HOUSING AND HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEEDS OF THE PLANNING APPARATUS ARE, ARE SPREAD OUT AROUND THE CITY FOR SURE.
UM, MAYBE NOT TO JUST AREAS, UM, WE'RE USED, USED TO SEEING.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT PLANNING IS FOR, IS TO ADDRESS IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
UM, YEAH, AS WE GO TO PERCENT CHANGE IN, IN, IN HOUSING, I SAID DISTRICT, UH, 10, GOT A FEW MORE THERE.
UH, THAT WAS NOTABLE, UM, EVEN AS, AS EVEN AS FAR NORTH AS, UH, UH, 12, UM, HAD HAD SOME, AND, UM, A LOT IN IN DISTRICT FOUR.
UH, CERTAINLY NOTABLE IN DISTRICT TWO, NOTABLE.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, YOUR ACRES ARE, ARE ACRES ARE JUST THERE FOR A COMPARISON.
NOT ALWAYS A, A HUGE INDICATOR, BUT THEY DEFINITELY CAN BE AN INDICATOR OF WHERE, WHERE PLANNING NEEDS TO OR HAS NEEDED TO OCCUR.
UM, THE MOST, THE MOST COMMON CHANGE THAT NEEDED WAS ACTUALLY SUVS.
WHETHER THEY'RE NEW SUVS, THERE WERE AMENDMENTS TO SUVS OR RENEWALS OR, UM, WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, AFTER THAT IT WAS, UM, GENERAL ZONE CHANGES, 74 OF THOSE, UM, NO CRAZY PATTERNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE DEFINITELY SEE MORE SUVS IN SOME OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE, UM, THINGS LIKE OVERLAYS THAT REQUIRE SUVS FOR VARIOUS THINGS.
UM, SO WE STILL SEE THOSE PRETTY COMMONLY, UM, IN OUR SUP NUMBERS.
UM, NEW PD NUMBERS, UH, I HIGHLIGHTED THAT NOT, AND, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY TREND THERE, BUT I'M, AND WE'RE NOT PICKING ON ANYONE, BUT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE OUR CODE, A LOT OF TIMES A PD A GOOD REASON FOR A PD AND A COMMON REASON FOR A PD IS, IS SHORTCOMINGS OF THE CODE.
UM, SO WE SAW, WE SAW 28 OF THOSE NEW PDS CREATED IN THE YEAR AND, AND, AND SPREAD FAIRLY EVENLY AROUND.
UM, I'VE GOT PERCENT NUMBERS FOR THOSE.
AND, AND KEEP IN MIND THOSE REQUESTS CAN OVERLAP.
UM, IF YOU'RE SEEING THINGS THAT DON'T ADD TO A HUNDRED, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE A GENERAL ZONE CHANGE, YOU MIGHT HAVE AN SUP ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, ULTIMATE ULTIMATELY, SUP WAS, UH, PRETTY MUCH THE MOST COMMON THING WE HAD TO DO.
UM, NOTABLY, UH, THEY'RE DEFINITELY AN INCREASE IN THE S AS, UM, OUR SCHOOLS ARE PRETTY COMMONLY ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE, UM, AND COME IN AS SUVS, WHETHER THAT'S A NEW SUP OR AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR SUP.
SO IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROCESS AND, AND, AND ALSO TO THE OUTCOME FOR THE SAKE OF OUR, OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM GETTING, GETTING WORK DONE UNDER AN SUP RATHER THAN A, A NEW PD.
UM, JUST FOR FUN, WE'VE GOT, UM, DISTRICT BY DISTRICT DATA, UM, STAFF APPROVALS, UM, OVERALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, NOT JUST PURE APPROVALS, BUT IF WE HAD AN ALTERNATE, UH, THAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING, IF WE HAD CHANGES TO IT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT'S CAPTURED IN THE APPROVAL, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR BINARY, UH, DATA, UM, THE SAME WOULD BE TRUE OF THE CPC APPROVAL.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY THERE'S A HUNDRED PERCENT OF, OF APPROVALS, BUT, BUT CHANGES ARE, ARE ALMOST ALWAYS MADE TO COMPLEX AND TRICKY CASES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S IN INCLUDED IN THESE APPROVALS.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO THE COUNCIL APPROVALS THAT ONLY COUNCIL THINGS THAT MADE IT TO THEM, UH, IT'S NOT THAT THEY APPROVE 92% OF THINGS THAT, THAT GO THROUGH THE SYSTEM, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY ONLY GET SLIGHTLY MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE FLESHED OUT CASES IF THEY GET TO THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
SO THEY, THEY APPROVED THINGS AT A 92% RATE IF IT MADE IT TO THEM.
LET'S TALK ABOUT TIMELINES OVERALL.
UM, WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE DATA TO A DEGREE COMPARED TO PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT WE, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
UM, LET'S BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO THE MEDIAN, MOST OF OUR DATA HERE IS IN MEDIANS 'CAUSE OF, WE HAVE PLENTY OF OUTLIERS THAT GO FASTER AND PLENTY OF OUTLIERS THAT GO SLOWER.
UM, 123 DAYS TO GET FROM ACTUAL PAYMENT TO A HEARING, UM, HELD FAIRLY STEADY OVER THE YEAR,
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UM, AS THE, AS THE YEAR WENT ON.UM, THERE'S ALWAYS LAGS BETWEEN THE CPC OR THE, THE STAFF PROCESS.
THE CPC PROCESS, THE COUNCIL PROCESS.
SO WE SEE, UM, LITTLE WAVES HERE WHERE THINGS RUN PARALLEL TO A DEGREE.
UM, AND THEN YOU CAN PROBABLY ACCOUNT FOR ANY GAP BETWEEN THE BLUE STAFF REVIEW AND THE ORANGE, UM, CPC ACTION BY THAT, THAT'S JUST BASICALLY YOUR, YOUR AVERAGE HOLD TIME, BASICALLY AT THAT RATE.
BUT THERE WERE LOTS OF TIMES WHERE THINGS GOT TO PLAN COMMISSION PRETTY QUICKLY WERE ACTED ON.
SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S OFTEN A, A, A GOOD INDICATOR.
AND THEN CP, THERE'S COUNCIL ACTION FOLLOWS PRETTY, PRETTY TYPICALLY 40 ISH DAYS AFTERWARDS BECAUSE OF THE, UH, TYPICAL, TYPICAL REQUIREMENTS TO, TO POST AND, AND TURN THINGS AROUND AT COUNCIL.
UM, AND WE HAVE A GAP IN JULY, 'CAUSE THERE IS NO JULY COUNCIL.
UM, I WANT TO COMPARE THAT TOTAL PROCESSING TO THE PREVIOUS YEARS, PREVIOUS TWO YEARS OF, OF FISCAL YEAR.
UM, WE DO HAVE A TREND LINE DOWN.
UM, ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE, UM, A BETTER TREND DOWN, BUT IT, IT IS A POSITIVE CHANGE.
UM, OVER THE COURSE OF 22, 23, UM, THE TIMES DID GET HIGHER.
UM, UH, ANYONE ON ON OUR SIDE CAN SAY THAT'S A, A BIG PART OF THAT IS STAFF CAPACITY.
UM, AND, AND STAFF AVAILABILITY AND STAFF TRAINING, UM, PEAKED IN 20 23, 24 IN TERMS OF THOSE PROCESSING TIMES.
I HAVE A TABLE FOR IT IN A MINUTE.
UM, BUT THAT HAS, HAS COME DOWN IN, IN THIS PAST FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PROUD OF.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, IS, CAN ONLY HAPPEN WITH THE COLLABORATION AND, AND WORK OF THE CPC AND COUNCIL.
UH, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL PART OF THE SAME TEAM OF GETTING THINGS DONE.
SO LIKE I SAID, THAT TREND LINE WASN'T AS HIGH AS I LIKE, BUT PROCESSING MORE ITEMS THAN THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
144 IN THE FIRST YEAR, 197 IN THE SECOND, 227 IN THE, IN THE FINAL YEAR, BUT DONE IN, IN LESS AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO THAT IS, THAT'S ENCOURAGING AS WELL.
UM, THAT'S PRODUCTIVITY, UM, FOR SURE ON THE PART OF THE WHOLE PLANNING APPARATUS.
I KEEP SAYING THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S US, THAT'S YOU, THAT'S THE COUNCIL, THAT'S THE CITIZENS.
UM, SO IT IS, IT IS HAPPENING.
WE'RE BEING PRODUCTIVE AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT PROGRESS.
UM, HERE'S THAT SAME DATA PUT INTO THE TABLE.
UM, I LIKE TO TELL THE LITTLE STORY, BUT LIKE, UM, THIS YEAR AS AN ELIMINATED BACKLOG, YOU GET A SIGN IN IN 14 DAYS, ANY CASE SINCE, SINCE DALLAS NOW CAME ONLINE IN MAY, GETS ASSIGNED IN 14 DAYS WHEN IT GETS, UM, PAID AND SUBMITTED.
THAT'S A, UH, AN INCREASED PREDICTABILITY, UM, ON THE COUNT OF THE PUBLIC.
AND, UM, FOR, UM, DEVELOPERS AS WELL, MORE PREDICTABLE.
UH, 23, UH, REDUCED THE BACKLOG.
WE SAW THERE WAS LESS, UM, OVERALL CASES.
WE PROCESSED SOME OF THOSE IN THIS YEAR AS WELL.
BUT, UM, BACKLOG BEGAN IN 22, 23 'CAUSE OF THAT STAFF SHORTAGE.
I, UM, WAS THERE AT THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL YEAR PERSONALLY WHEN THERE WAS LIKE TWO PLA, NOT LIKE TWO PLANNERS.
THERE WAS TWO PLANNERS PRIMARILY WORKING ON THIS AS A FULL TIME.
BUT NO, UM, I'M, I'M HAPPY WITH THE PROGRESS AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE MORE GREAT COWORKERS, UM, THAT HAVE GOTTEN THAT WORK DONE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
SO THE MORE THE MERRIER ON OUR END AND, UH, IT'S STILL OVER THE CALENDAR TIME, WHAT I CALL THAT CALENDAR TIMEFRAME, UM, IS JUST IF YOU SUBMIT ON A X DAY AND EVERYTHING GOES PERFECT TO, YOU HAVE ALL OF YOUR PLANS IN ORDER, THERE WERE NO ERRORS ON YOUR PLANS, UH, NO, NO MAPPING ISSUES, NO THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOU TALK TO EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER PROPERLY AND YOU GOT VOTED ON YOUR FIRST MEETING, IT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN.
UM, SO I'M NOT MAKING ANYONE FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT, BUT HEY, THAT'S TARGET.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT REDUCING THAT MINIMUM.
SO AT LEAST THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THEIR JOBS PROPERLY AND HAVE DONE THE WORK, UM, CAN GET THROUGH FASTER.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S ONLY THE SHORTEST POSSIBLE PROCESSING, BUT NEVER, RARELY DOES EVERYTHING GO PERFECT, BUT IT, IT CAN, AND WE WANT TO PUT THAT CARROT THERE FOR, FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO MOVE THROUGH PROPERLY SO THAT THEY DO DO THE ENGAGEMENT, THEY DO DO THE OUTREACH EARLIER.
UM, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A REWARD FOR THEM OF, OF GETTING THROUGH FASTER, UH, PREDICTABLY.
SO THAT'S IT FOR THE, THE OVERALL ZONING DATA.
I'LL MENTION, UM, ANOTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN ACTED ON THIS BODY, AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THAT DATA INCLUDING THE, UM, THE ACREAGE.
UM, WE REZONE A LOT OF THE CITY, A LOT OF THAT WAS THROUGH AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
THIS IS THE, REALLY WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS SOMETHING PROUD OF, BUT IT IS THE ROLLOUT OF, OF WOKE CAP.
IT'S THE IMPLEMENTATION OF WOKE CAP, UM, PASSED A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT IT, IT RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD WHEN IT BECOMES ZONING.
UM, UH, GYM TOWN AREA 10 ACRES THERE, UM, NORTH CLIFF NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, FIVE ACRES THERE, AND THE 35 ACRES STRIP OF HAMS AND CLAREN.
AND, UM, THIS, THIS BODY GOT THAT DONE, UM, OVER THE COURSE OF THIS YEAR.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE, ARE HUGE PRIORITIES OF, OF WOKE
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CUP AND, AND WHICH FOLDS NICELY INTO FORWARD DALLAS.AND, UM, PREVIOUS OR NEXT YEAR'S, WE'LL HAVE OTHER COMPONENTS OF FORWARD DALLAS THAT WILL GET ROLLED OUT AND EXCITED TO SEE THAT.
BUT I DID WANT TO INCLUDE IT IN THE OVERALL ZONING DATA.
UM, BUT THAT'S IT FOR THE ZONING DATA.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS IF YOU LIKE.
SO, UH, NEXT STEP, JUST A SECOND.
I'M GONNA, AND I KNOW I KEEP ON LIKE ANNOUNCING THAT THIS IS THE LAST YEAR WE'RE DOING THE ANNUAL REPORT IN THIS FORMAT.
WE'RE WORKING ON THE ZONING DASHBOARD THAT'S GONNA PRESENT.
WE HAVE A PERMITTING ONE, AND NOW WE'RE WORKING ON THE ZONING DASHBOARD TO BASICALLY INPUT ALL THIS DATA AND TO KIND OF LIKE HAVE A DASHBOARD TO BE ABLE TO CLICK AND TO SEE ALL ACTIVE CASES, TO HAVE AN INTERFACE BETWEEN THAT COMPLICATED DATA NOW AND, UH, WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE.
UH, WE HAD IT READY FOR LAUNCH IN MAY, BUT BECAUSE WE LAUNCHED THE CELL, WE NEEDED TO RECONNECT THE DATA SOURCE TO A NEW SYSTEM.
UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH DATA ANALYTICS, UM, DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
UM, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY JANUARY THAT WE, WE ARE STILL AT THE BACK END OF IT.
UM, WE WILL HAVE A ZONING DASHBOARD ONCE IT'S ANNOUNCED.
I'M TELLING YOU, WE'RE COMING WITH BELLS AND WHISTLES TO PRESENT IT TO YOU.
AND, UH, I THINK EV AGAIN, ALL THIS PRESENTATION WILL LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
UH, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE THE PROCESS, THE ZONING PROCESS, STREAMLINING THAT ZONING SCHEDULE, ASSIGN AND Z-R-T-C-P-C.
UH, MICHAEL HAS A WONDERFUL, UH, AMBITION AND HE HAS A WONDERFUL VISION TO MAKE THAT QUICKER, FASTER, BETTER.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THE ZONING REFORM, AS I SAID, IT'S GONNA CONTINUE.
YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE SOME BRIEFINGS AT ZAC AND THE CPC THIS YEAR.
WHERE GONNA GO THE, THE CONSULTANT IS GONNA GO, UM, THEY SAY IN A CAVE
AND ONCE THEY HAVE A F FIRST, FIRST FIRST DRAFTED DRAFT, THEY'RE GONNA COME STRAIGHT TO UN CITY COUNCIL TO KIND OF LIKE, UM, EXPLAIN THEIR REASONING.
AND THEN WE GONNA GO AND START WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR ANY, FOR ALL THE VERSIONS UNTIL THE, THE FINAL DRAFT.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR, AND I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH OUR PART.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY INPUT? OKAY.
MR. PEPE, AND I GUESS MS. MAY IS, IS HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
WHY DON'T WE SAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS.
THIS IS BACK ON OUR AGENDA AS A VOTING ITEM AT THE VERY END.
SO JUST AS A TIME CONSIDERATION, AND I WILL JUST SAY TO EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UM, PATIENCE AS WE'VE MOVED FROM HAVING A CONSISTENT 9:00 AM START OF BRIEFING TO TRYING TO VARY THAT.
UM, SO WE'RE NOT HERE UNNECESSARILY EARLY AND HAVE BIG GAPS BETWEEN THE BRIEFING AND THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT GONNA FINISH, OR, OR WE MAY NOT FINISH OUR BRIEFING OF EVERY ITEM HERE TODAY AT THE BRIEFING TIME, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY BRIEF ITEMS AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.
AND WE MAY END UP DOING THAT WITH SOME OF THOSE.
SO LET'S MOVE ON, UM, TO OUR ZONING ITEMS. COMMISSIONER FORSYTHS, YOU NEED NUMBER TWO BRIEFED? YES.
AND JUST BY THE WAY, FOR THE RECORD, UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT BRIEFING, COMMISSIONER DISTRICTS 2, 3, 7, AND EIGHT JOINED US.
THIS IS ITEM TWO, CASE MZ TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 0 1 9.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT THREE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 9 98.
IT IS APPROXIMATELY POINT 11 ACRES.
HERE WE HAVE THE LOCATION MAP.
THE AREA REQUEST IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF EAST 11TH STREET AND THEN EAST OF EAST EIGHTH STREET, AND IT'S IN DISTRICT FOUR.
HERE WE HAVE THE AERIAL AND ZONING LAND USE MAP.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTH, IT'S STILL PD 9 98, SUB AREA THREE AND SUB AREA TWO.
UM, AND THEN TO THE SOUTH WE HAVE A NSA DISTRICT AND AN R FIVE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
A BRIEF BACKGROUND, UM, THIS PD WAS ESTABLISHED, UM, IN JANUARY, 2018 BY ORDINANCE 2 0 7 4 4.
THE AREA OF REQUEST IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND THE CURRENT REQUEST IS FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
FOR THE REQUEST DETAILS, THE REQUEST
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SEEKS APPROVAL OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT TO, UM, SORRY, NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO DEVELOP A THREE UNIT MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURE.THE PD DOES ALLOW MULTIFAMILY BY RIGHT, HOWEVER, IT'S SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVED BY CPC PRIOR TO ANY ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
HERE WE HAVE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, I HAVE IT A LITTLE BIT ENLARGED SO YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER FORSYTH TESIA? YES.
COULD YOU, UH, GO BACK TO THE, UH, SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE AERIAL OVERVIEW OF THE PROPERTY, PLEASE? MM-HMM
THE, THE, THE ACTUAL AERIAL OVERVIEW OF THE, LIKE THE GOOGLE MAPS VIEW THERE.
SO COULD YOU HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THERE, THE, THE, UH, THIS, UH, AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS WHERE THE, THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE'S GOING TO GO.
UH, AND MY UNDERSTANDING, LOOKING AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE'S NO SIDE YARD SETBACK AND THE STRUCTURE IS GONNA BE ALL THE WAY TO THE BORDERLINE.
ON THE, ON THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE HERE, THE, THE, THE, THE WEST SIDE, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, SO FOR THIS SUB AREA, THERE ARE, UM, SIDE YARD REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IF I MAY GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BETTER VIEW.
SO WE DO HAVE THE SIDEWALKS HERE.
I DUNNO IF YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE, BUT, UM, THEY'RE IMPOSED RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN, UM, YES, THE SITE IT, BECAUSE IT'S IN SUB AREA THREE, THERE IS A FRONT YARD AND, UH, SIDE YARD AND REAR YARD SETBACKS, I BELIEVE.
UM, AND THEN THESE ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS.
I JUST ALSO WANNA SAY THAT THIS, UH, CASE WAS ALSO DONE, UM, ALONG WITH THE PERMITTING TEAM.
UM, JUST BECAUSE THIS CASE HAD, UH, GONE TO PERMITTING AND IT WAS SUBMITTED AS A SITE PLAN AND IT WAS DISCOVERED THERE THAT CPC WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE A COMPLIANT DEVELOPMENT PLAN PRIOR TO AN ISSUANCE.
BUT, BUT LOOKING AT THIS VIEW, AND THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S KIND OF SIDEWAYS HERE COMPARED TO THE ACTUAL PROPERTY ITSELF.
BUT, UH, WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE, ON THE, THIS BUILDING FOOTPRINT ON, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS BUILDING FOOTPRINT HERE ON THIS IMAGE, UH, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE PROPERTY LINE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THERE'S NO SETBACK HERE, RIGHT? YES, SO THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THIS WOULD BE A ZERO SIDE YARD 'CAUSE THERE ARE NO SIDE YARD REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS ONE.
UM, AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE REAR FIVE YARD.
AND, AND IF YOU CAN GO BACK THEN TO THE AERIAL VIEW, PLEASE.
SO IS THAT A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE? UH, UH, DIRECTLY WEST OF THIS PROPERTY RIGHT THERE.
WHERE YOU GOT THE CURSOR? YES.
THERE, THERE, THERE ARE, ARE ARE, ARE THERE ANY KIND OF RESIDENTIAL RESTRICTIONS ON HAVING A, A MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE? UM, NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
THIS PD DOES ALLOW, UM, MULTIFAMILY BY.
SO THE PD DOESN'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS FOR SETBACKS ADJACENT TO THE SIDE YARD.
UM, THE WAY THE PD READS FOR FRONT YARD, THERE'S A MINIMUM OF FIVE AND THEN THERE'S A MAX OF 10.
SO IT HAS TO BE IN THE MEN MAX.
UM, FOR THE SIDE THERE IS NO MINIMUM.
AND THEN FOR THE REAR THERE'S FIVE AND THEN IT GOES AND TALKS ON ABOUT DENSITY.
SO AS IT DOESN'T CLASSIFY OR, UH, SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL LOT AND, AND RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY SLOPE DOESN'T, UH, HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON THIS, UM, THAT PLAYS INTO, UH, HEIGHT.
SO ANYTHING OVER 26 FEET, IT DOESN'T PLAY ANY TEAM INTO, UH, SETBACKS.
AND, AND, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE BUILDING HEIGHT'S GONNA BE 30 FEET, RIGHT? MM-HMM
THE PD ALLOWS IT TO BE, UM, TASK FIELD.
COULD YOU CONFIRM, IS IT 30 OR 36? YES.
SO YEAH, THE PD MAX IS 30 FEET.
SO ON THIS SITE PLAN, WE DO NOT HAVE A MAX
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HEIGHT SHOWN, HOWEVER, THEY WILL BE RESTRICTED TO 30 FEET.UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH THE, UH, FOLKS WHO LIVE, YOU KNOW, ALONG, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, EAST EIGHTH STREET AND ROCKEFELLER BOULEVARD? NOT FROM SITES, UM, STAFF SIDE, NO.
UM, TYPICALLY WE DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN 'CAUSE THEY ARE A MINISTERIAL.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL, UM, TO KNOW IF THEY HAD ANY.
AND, AND FORGIVE ME FOR NOT HAVING DONE THE RESEARCH ON THIS, UH, UH, BUT, UM, WHAT THE NOTICES DID GO OUT RIGHT TO ALL THE PEOPLE WITH, DID NOTICES GO OUT TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT LIVE ALONG ROCKEFELLER THAT WOULD BE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS? SO, OR 500 FEET BECAUSE IT'S A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
SO PER CODE, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLANS DO NOT REQUIRE NOTICES.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT? UM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IN THE, UH, IN THE ORDINANCE ABOUT PRIOR 30 DAYS PRIOR TO FILING AN APPLICATION, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, THE APPLICATION SENT TO THE SKYLINE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION COPY MAILED TO GREATER EMANUEL BAPTIST CHURCH.
I MEAN, DO YOU KNOW IF THAT HAPPENED? UM, I DO NOT KNOW.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE APPLICANT.
SO YOU CAN ASK HIM AT THE HEARING.
AND THEN, UM, YOU REFERENCED A SIDEWALK ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UM, I, THAT WAS, THAT WAS HELPFUL.
UH, 'CAUSE IT NEVER ACTUALLY SAYS IT, IT'S JUST A CROSS HATCHED AREA.
THERE'S, THERE IS NO LABEL THAT SAYS IT AND IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE PD.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD THING TO GET ADDED.
IN, IN SOME INSTANCES WHERE MULTIFAMILY IS ALLOWED, UM, EIGHT 40 STILL CAN TAKE PLACE.
IT IT, DOES THIS APPLY TO THIS SITE? NO, IT DOES NOT APPLY TO THIS ONE BECAUSE IT WAS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 1ST WHEN THAT SB EIGHT 40 TOOK EFFECT.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? ALRIGHT, REMOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH I THINK A FEW ITEMS HAVE COME OFF OF IT, I BELIEVE SIX AND SEVEN.
ARE THERE OTHERS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO REMOVE? OKAY.
UM, WE CAN, I THINK, GO AHEAD.
DOES ANYONE WANT ITEM NUMBER THREE? BRIEFED? COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
DO YOU WANT ITEM NUMBER THREE? BRIEFED? NO.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU NEED NUMBER FOUR? DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT NUMBER FOUR BRIEFED? NO.
ANYONE WANT ITEM NUMBER FIVE BRIEFED? YES, YOU DO? OR DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF? I JUST HAD A BRIEF QUESTION ABOUT A POTENTIAL TYPO ABOUT THE OPERATING HOURS OF THE OUTDOOR RUN DOG RUN.
IS MR. LEE HERE? I I WILL SAY, UM, IF I'M NOT BRIEFING, BUT EITHER WAY, THIS IS OUR, OUR NEW SENIOR PLANNER, UM, NEWEST SENIOR PLANNER JUSTIN LEE.
AND WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HAVE HIM, UM, TAKING CASES.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TO, TO GIVE HIM A SHOUT OUT.
BUT, UM, WE'RE HERE FOR A QUESTION.
UM, YEAH, THE, THE OPERATING, UH, IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT BETWEEN 6:30 AM AND 9:00 AM YOU CAN'T USE THE RUN.
I, I ASSUME THAT MEANT 6:30 PM AND 9:00 AM THE HOURS OF OPERATION SAYS SIX.
THE, THE OUTSIDE RUNS MAY ONLY OPERATE BETWEEN 6:30 AM AND 7:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.
SO THEN YOU'RE LOOKING LOWER AT ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS ANNALS MAY NOT BE OUTDOORS BETWEEN SIX 30 AND 9:00 AM MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT, WE, WE FORWARDED TO THE COMMISSIONER THAT THE APPLICANT
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MAY, UH, REQUEST TO REMOVE THAT IF, IF POSSIBLE.UM, WE GOT THAT REQUEST AFTER POSTING.
UM, BUT THEY WERE REQUESTING ACTUALLY TO REMOVE THAT, UM, AS A, A DIFFICULTY FOR THEM IN THE CASE OF, UH, SUMMER OPERATIONS, I THINK.
SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY WERE REQUESTING IF POSSIBLE, THROUGH MOTION TO REMOVE THAT.
THAT HAS BEEN PART OF THE SUP SINCE THE APPROVAL.
THAT WAS THE PART THAT WAS CONFUSING.
THAT'S BEEN THROUGH WITH THE SUP SINCE THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL, BUT THAT WAS THE SECTION THEY WERE ACTUALLY REQUESTING TO STRIKE IF, UH, THAT BODY SO CHOOSES TO FIVE.
WE WILL TAKE NUMBER FIVE OFF OF CONSENT.
UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER SIX, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
I DON'T NEED IT BRIEFED, BUT I'M HAPPY IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO BECAUSE I DID CIRCULATE SOME RED LINE CHANGES THIS MORNING.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS OR WANT IT BRIEFED? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER SERATO, DO YOU WANT THIS ONE BRIEFED OR QUESTIONS? UH, NO, I DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE ANYTHING BRIEFED.
I, I ASKED MY QUESTIONS ALREADY, PREVIOUSLY.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
UM, YOU, THAT ONE BRIEFED? NOPE.
ANYONE ELSE BRIEFING QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ITEM NUMBER NINE THAT'S GOING TO BE HELD.
IS THAT RIGHT COMMISSIONER? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
THEN LET'S FOREGO A BRIEFING ON THAT ONE JUST BECAUSE WE ARE TIGHT ON TIME.
UM, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ASK THAT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO WE NEED AN UPDATE OR A BRIEFING ON ITEM NUMBER 10? NO, I THINK IT CAN BE ADDRESSED AT THE HEARING 'CAUSE THE COMMUNITY AND THE APPLICANT HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
THEN ITEM NUMBER 11, IT'S UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL DECEMBER THE FOURTH.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE BRIEFED.
UM, IN COMMISSIONER SIMS, WHAT DATE ARE YOU PLANNING TO MOVE TO HOLD ITEM NUMBER NINE TO JANUARY 15TH OF NEXT YEAR, MR. CHAIR? 15.
SINCE WE DO HAVE OUR RULES COMMITTEE MEETING STARTING AT NOON, UM, LET'S SAVE ANY BRIEFING OF OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THIS AFTERNOON.
AND I BELIEVE UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAS ANYTHING THEY WANNA BE BRIEFED, THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
WE WILL BE BACK FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 1230.
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS 1204
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ON NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025, AND I HEREBY CALL TO ORDER THE, UH, THIS MEETING OF THE RULES COMMITTEE OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.MADAM SECRETARY, WILL YOU CALL THE ROLE YES.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT PRESENT.
AND, UM, COMMISSIONER RUBIN? I'M HERE.
UH, THE MEM ADDITIONAL MEMBERS OF THE CPC ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND AND WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE.
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA, UH, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING THE DALLAS PLAN COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE PERTAINING TO IN-PERSON ATTENDANCE AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLAN COMMISSION.
IT'S SECTION NINE OF OUR RULES.
UH, MS. MORRISON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE WITH US ON THAT? OKAY.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO TESTIFY IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED COMMISSIONERS? IS THERE A MOTION COMMISSIONER? I, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, UM, FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE, UM, AMENDED, UM, RULES AND, UM, UH, ADOPT THEM.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
UH, ALL IN ALL IN FAVOR SAY, CAN WE DISCUSS THAT? YES.
ANY DISCUSSION? DOES THIS PUT US INTO CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW? DOESN'T STATE LAW NOW ALLOW VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE? LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? YEAH, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT DOES ALLOW FOR VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION FOR EVERYONE BUT THE PRESIDING OFFICER.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST AN ALLOWANCE.
UM, LOCAL AUTHORITIES CAN, UH, CREATE THEIR OWN RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT ARE MORE, UM, MORE STRICT THAN WHAT THE STATE LAW ALLOWS.
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GO AHEAD.AND I WILL ADD, UM, MR. CHAIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, THAT THE, UM, LANGUAGE BEING ADDED TO THE RULES IS THAT, UM, THE REQUIREMENT FOR IN-PERSON ATTENDANCE WOULD BE FOR REGULAR MEETINGS ONLY, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN EXCEPTION THAT THE CHAIR MAY APPROVE VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE FOR ANY OF THE MEMBERS.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. MORRISON.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? CHAIR RUDIN? YEAH, I WILL SAY THAT I RAISED THIS ITEM WITH THE CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THERE IS A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE.
UH, I DON'T PARTICULARLY HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ON THIS ISSUE MYSELF.
UM, I DO THINK, AT LEAST DURING MY CHAIRMANSHIP, IF ANYONE HAS ANY, YOU KNOW, REASON OTHER THAN THE DOG ATE MY HOMEWORK, I I'M LIKELY TO HAVE NO ISSUES.
UM, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY REASONABLE REASON TO NOT BE HERE IN PERSON.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ALLOW VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE BECAUSE I GET THAT WE ALL HAVE, YOU KNOW, MANY THINGS GOING ON IN OUR LIVES AND ARE JUGGLING COMMITMENTS AND ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS.
UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON, ON WHICH WAY THIS GOES, ONE OR THE OTHER, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMISSION DISCUSS IT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR. CHAIR? I CAN ADD A A LITTLE BIT TO THAT SINCE I WAS THERE AT THE COUNCIL MEETING THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT THE RULES BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR, UM, APPROVAL OF AMENDMENTS.
THIS DID IN FACT, UM, SPARK SOME DISCUSSION AT THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT IN, IN PERSON ATTENDANCE, AT PLAN COMMISSION MEETINGS.
UM, SO THIS IS WHY IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED THAT THE RULES COMMITTEE AND THE PLAN COMMISSION LOOK AT.
BUT ULTIMATELY, I JUST WANNA REMIND THIS COMMITTEE, UM, THAT IT IS UP TO THIS COMMITTEE AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION ON WHETHER TO INCLUDE, UH, THIS REQUIREMENT OR NOT.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE CHANGE.
UM, I THINK IT ACTUALLY INCREASES PARTICIPATION IF, IF PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY.
AND I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE ON THE COMMISSION HAVE BEEN VERY DILIGENT ABOUT IN-PERSON ATTENDANCE.
AND IF WHEN THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON, YOU KNOW, BEING ALLOWED TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY ACTUALLY INCREASES THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENT DURING DELIBERATION.
UM, I THINK IF A COUNCIL PERSON HAS A PROBLEM WITH THEIR APPOINTEE NOT ATTENDING MEETINGS, WE ALL SERVE AT THEIR PLEASURE.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, I MEAN, I THINK CHAIR RUBIN IS VERY ACCURATE IN WHAT HE JUST SAID.
HE'S THE DOG GATE, YOUR HOMEWORK FINE, YOU CAN BE VIRTUAL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I I IT JUST SEEMS, UM, SORT OF DENIGRATING OUR PROFESSIONALISM TO HAVE US GO TO THE PRINCIPAL TO ASK FOR PERMISSION.
UM, AND WHAT'S THE CONSEQUENCE IF HE SAYS NO? DO WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT VIRTUAL OR WE'RE, WE'RE PRESENT, BUT IT'S COUNTED AS AN ABSENCE.
MS. MORRISON, WHAT WOULD THAT, WHERE WOULD THAT LEAVE US? YEAH, I, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD THEN BE COUNTED AS AN ABSENCE FOR THAT MEETING.
WELL, ALL THAT SAID, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? RIGHT.
HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF WITH RESPECT TO THE SECTION NINE.
I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF A, WE MAY NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THIS RIGHT.
MADAM SECRETARY, DO YOU MIND CALLING THE ROLL? ALL RIGHT.
MOVING TO OUR SECOND AGENDA ITEM CONSIDERATION, AMENDING THE DALLAS PLAN COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE PERTAINING TO COMMITTEES IN SECTION 13.
MS. MORRISON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE WITH US ON THAT? UH, MOST OF THESE AMENDMENTS, UH, DID COME AT THE REQUEST OF, UH, CHAIR RUBIN.
UH, SAVE FOR THE ONE STATEMENT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SCROLL TO IT.
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THE ONE STATEMENT THAT SAYS, IT IS THE GOAL OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION TO INCLUDE GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE REPRESENTATION ON STANDING COMMITTEES FROM A BROAD VARIETY OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY WHILE AVOIDING OVER REPRESENTATION OF ANY DISTRICTS ON ANY ONE COMMITTEE.THAT AGAIN, UM, IS BEFORE YOU AT THE REQUEST OF CITY COUNCIL.
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY DISCUSSED AT THEIR MEETING AND THEY WANTED THE RULES COMMITTEE AND THE PLAN COMMISSION, UH, TO CONSIDER THIS.
IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WISHING TO TESTIFY IN FAVOR OF THIS? ANYONE OPPOSED? IS THERE A MOTION? MR. RUBIN? HAPPY TO MR. RUBIN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENTS.
THE CPC COMMISSIONER RUBINS MOVED.
IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER HOUSE? SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'M HAPPY TO BRIEFLY JUST SPEAK TO WHY IED THESE CHANGES.
UH, THEY REALLY LOOK AT THE CLUB, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE.
AND ZAC, OR THE PRIMARY THING THAT I WAS LOOKING AT CLUB AS IT EXISTS TODAY HAS A MEMBERSHIP OF 13 TO 17.
AND THAT MADE SENSE, ALTHOUGH IT WAS A LITTLE BIG WHILE WE WERE ACTUALLY WORKING ON FORWARD DALLAS, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE MORE IN MAINTENANCE MODE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT SMALL AREA ON FORWARD DALLAS IN TERMS OF MAYBE SOME SMALL UPDATES, YOU KNOW, GETTING REPORTED BACK ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING UNDER FORWARD DALLAS AND LOOKING AT SMALL AREA PLANS, I THINK A MEMBERSHIP OF SEVEN MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE, UM, ON A COMMITTEE OF THAT SIZE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WE DO HAVE ZAC, UM, WHICH IS GOING TO ROLL UP ITS SLEEVES AND WORK ON CODE REFORM.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT EIGHT MEMBERS ON ZAC.
UM, AT THE VERY LEAST, I THINK WE NEED AN ODD NUMBER JUST FOR SORT OF TIE BREAKING AND QUORUM PURPOSES.
AND I WANTED TO GO UP TO 11 SO WE COULD GET A FEW ADDITIONAL VOICES IN THE ROOM CONSIDERING THE APPOINT OF, UH, IMPORTANCE OF, OF CODE REFORM.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN, YEAH, AND I, I JUST THINK ADDING THREE EXTRA SEATS THERE HELPS HAVE A MORE ROBUST DISCUSSION WITH A WIDER VARIETY OF VIEWPOINTS.
AND WHEN I DO MAKE SO OAC AMENDMENTS, I, I INTEND TO, YOU KNOW, APPOINT PEOPLE WITH A VERY INTERESTING AND DIVERSE ARRAY OF VIEWPOINTS THERE.
SO THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED GOING UP TO 11 FOR SO OAC.
ANY FURTHER ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UM, IF, IF WE'RE ADDRESSING JUST THIS ONE SENTENCE, NUMBER ONE, UNDERSTANDING COMMITTEES NOW I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE GOAL, UM, FOR STANDING COMMITTEES, UH, BEING TO INCLUDE GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE REPRESENTATION.
UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISH THAT ON SOME, SOME OF THE SMALLER, UH, COMMITTEES.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, RULES, FOR INSTANCE, UH, THIS IS NOT A GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE COMMITTEE AT PRESENT.
UM, UM, I UNDERSTAND WITH, UH, ZAC AND WITH THE, THE CLUB THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO ACHIEVE.
AND SO I WON'T VOTE AGAINST IT AS A GOAL.
I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY TOOTHLESS THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN HERE.
UM, SO AS AN OVERARCHING GOAL, I CAN SUPPORT IT.
I JUST THINK IN, UH, WHEN THE RUBBER HITS THE ROAD FOR INDIVIDUAL STANDING COMMITTEES, UM, WE MIGHT END UP WITH SOME UNWIELDY COMMITTEES IF WE NEED TO TRY TO INCLUDE, UH, TO GET TO GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE REPRESENTATION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
ANY FURTHER? COMMISSIONER HARA.
I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION FOR MS. MORRISON.
UM, THIS SENTENCE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT COMMISSIONER CARPENTER REFERENCED ABOUT THE OVERALL COMMITTEE COMPOSITION, IS THIS SORT OF LIKE A, A BOILERPLATE THING THAT COUNCIL ONCE APPLIED TO COMMITTEES ALL OVER THE CITY? OR ARE THEY SINGLING OUT THIS ONE, THIS ONE COMMITTEE? UH, THE DISCUSSION AT CITY COUNCIL WAS ONLY ABOUT THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION, SO I CAN'T COMMENT AS TO WHAT THEY'RE WANTING FOR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE.
THERE'S A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO APPROVE THE RULES OF PROCEDURE PERTAINING TO COMMITTEES UNDER SECTION 13.
ALL OPPOSED? NO, THE AYES HAVE IT.
THERE, THERE BEING NO OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. UH, BEFORE US.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
EXCUSE ME, AREN'T WE, UM, TO VOTE ON THE CHANGE IN THE, UH, COMPOSITION? UH, I MEAN THE NAME AND COMPOSITION OF THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE COMMITTEE AND THE SIZE OF ZAC
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I UNDER, I UNDERSTOOD THE MOTION WAS TO TAKE UP ALL OF THE SECTION 13 AMENDMENTS TOGETHER.DO WE? MY COMMENTS, MY CO MY COMMENTS AND VOTE WERE JUST ON THAT PARTICULAR SET.
UM, ITEM I UNDERSTANDING COMMITTEES UNDER ONE, UNDERSTANDING COMMITTEES.
DO WE NEED TO RECONSIDER IF YOU, YES, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, IF YOU WISH TO, IF YOU WISH TO VALUE, WE NEED TO RECON, RECONSIDER THE MOTION TO PASS, AND THEN WE WOULD NEED TO FAIL THAT MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE ITEM TO, UM, HAVE A VOTE TO LIMIT THE VOTE THAT WE JUST TOOK TO THAT ONE PARTICULAR, UM, SECTION NUMBER ONE, UNDERSTANDING COMMITTEE.
WELL, IT, IT'LL BE JUST A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE THAT WAS JUST TAKEN AND THEN, OH, OKAY.
AND, AND THEN WE'RE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, UH, WHEN A MOTION WAS MADE IS, UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER MO COMMISSIONER RUBIN SECONDS.
ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.
THE MOTION'S BEEN RECONSIDERED.
UH, MR. COMMISSIONER RUBIN, DO YOU HAVE A NEW MOTION FOR US? UH, I THINK THE SAME.
I MAKE THE SAME MOTION THAT I MADE BEFORE TO APPROVE THE CHANGES, UH, PROPOSED TO, UH, SECTION 13 OF THE CPC RULES OF PROCEDURE.
CAN I ASK A CLARIFICATION? THAT'S NOT A CHANGE.
IS THERE GONNA BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK? 'CAUSE I WAS WITH COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
I THOUGHT WE WERE ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE ONE SENTENCE, NOT THE ENTIRE SECTION.
SO IF, IF THERE'S NO SECOND TO COMMISSIONER RUBIN'S.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? UM, YES.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UH, THE TEXT UNDERSTANDING, UH, STANDING COMMITTEES, UM, SUBSET I, NUMBER ONE, IT IS THE GOAL OF CITY PLAN COMMISSION TO INCLUDE GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE REPRESENTATION ON STANDING COMMITTEES FROM A BROAD VARIETY OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY WHILE AVOIDING OVERREPRESENTATION OF ANY DISTRICTS ON ANY ONE COMMITTEE.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? ONE SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.
IS THERE A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO THE REMAINING PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE, UH, RULES? YEAH.
DO YOU REMEMBER? YEAH, NO, WE WILL.
IS ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE REMAINING PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE RULES? COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, THANK YOU.
UM, WITH REGARD TO THE FIRST COMMITTEE, UM, I AM IN FAVOR OF CHANGING IT FROM CLUB TO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE GENERIC SO THAT WE CAN USE IT MORE SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE LIMBER FOR OUR PURPOSES.
UM, AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SIZE THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED, BUT I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME CRITERIA FOR WHO SERVES ON IT.
AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT, UH, A GROUP OF SEVEN, TWO OF THEM HAVE TO BE CPC, TWO OF THEM HAVE TO BE COMMUNITY LEADERS, HOWEVER WE WORD THAT, AND TWO OF 'EM SHOULD BE INDUSTRY FOLKS THAT HAVE SOME EXPERTISE ON THE SUBJECT WE'RE DISCUSSING AT THE MOMENT.
AND THEN THE, THE FOUR, THE SEVENTH ONE COULD BE THE CHAIR WHO, OR WHOEVER THE CHAIR WANTS TO APPOINT.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THESE COMMITTEES TO HAVE SOME BALANCE AND TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A VARIETY OF FOLKS FROM THE CITY TO PARTICIPATE IN.
MY CONCERN, AND AND THIS ISN'T AIMED AT AT CHAIR, UH, REUBEN AT ALL, BUT THIS IS A, A CHANGE THAT WILL LIVE BEYOND HIM.
SO EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM, AND I THINK HE'S TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, WE'VE HAD CHAIRS OF THIS COMMITTEE THAT I DON'T HAVE THAT OPINION OF.
AND I THINK THAT THESE COMMITTEES, UM, IF THEY'RE NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE WON'T RESPECT THE DECISION.
AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE SOME KIND OF BALANCE, THE COMMISSION ENDS UP DOING ALL THE WORK.
YOU KNOW, WE ENDED UP DOING ALL THE WORK THAT CLUB SHOULD HAVE DONE, AND I THINK PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS VERY LARGE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE GOOD ATTENDANCE.
AND PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE APPOINTED TO IT WERE LARGELY IN FAVOR OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH VOICES FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHICH CAUSED THE COMMUNITY TO THINK IT WAS WORTHLESS AND CAUSED THE REST OF US TO HAVE TO DO A LOT MORE WORK THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN COMMITTEE.
IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMMITTEES, THEY SHOULD BE COMMITTEES THAT ACTUALLY WORK TO MAKE OUR JOB EASIER.
AND, AND I FRANKLY HAVE THE SAME, UM, COMMENT ABOUT ZAC.
UM, I THINK 11 IS A LOT FOR ZAC.
I WOULD PROBABLY SAY, YOU KNOW, NINE IS PROBABLY A MORE WORKABLE NUMBER, UM, UNLESS THERE'S SOME PLAN TO DIVIDE ZAC
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INTO TWO DIFFERENT TRACKS, WHICH ISN'T ON THE TABLE.SO, UM, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS ON THESE TWO COMMITTEES.
MR. CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO, I HAVE DISCUSSION.
UM, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH CHANGING THE NAME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN COMMITTEE TO, I MEAN, IF PLANS, ADVISORY COMMITTEES IS, IS, IS PERFECTLY SERVICEABLE TO ME.
I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE, UM, PROPOSED NUMBER.
UM, HAVING SERVED ON CLUB, I I TOTALLY AGREE THAT 12 TO 17 IS, IS UNWIELDY AND DOES NOT, UM, IT'S NOT NIMBLE ENOUGH.
IT, IT'S, UH, WE HAD A REAL PROBLEM WITH, WITH ATTENDANCE AND WITH, UM, COMMITMENT.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.
I THINK NINE WOULD MAKE, UM, UH, MORE SENSE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BALANCE REPRESENTATION GEOGRAPHICALLY.
AND I WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, A COMMITTEE OF NINE WITH THREE PEOPLE FROM CPC ON THE COMMITTEE.
THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
WOULD YOU WISH, WOULD YOU CARE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? IS THERE MORE DISCUSSION? IS THERE ANY, UM, YEAH, I, I'M SORT OF AGNOSTIC ABOUT SEVEN VERSUS NINE ON CLUB.
WE'LL GET INTO ZAC WHEN WE GET THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK CLUB HAS MET REALLY, I THINK EVERY MEETING WAS SORT OF CANCELED BECAUSE IT JUST HAS NOT HAD THAT MUCH TO DO OVER THE PAST YEAR POST-ADOPTION.
NOT THAT I DON'T EXPECT IT TO MEET IN THE FUTURE, BUT I JUST DON'T EXPECT THE LIFT TO BE THE HEAVIEST ON CLUB MOVING FORWARD.
SO THAT, THAT'S PART OF WHY I THOUGHT SEVEN AS OPPOSED TO NINE.
BUT EITHER NUMBER'S ULTIMATELY WORKABLE.
WELL, GIVEN THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WRITING NEW RULES FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FORESEE FOR NOT JUST THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE, BUT FOR, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM I'M THINKING, UM, GIVEN THE GOALS OF THE CITY TO LOOK AT MORE, YOU KNOW, AREA PLANS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
I, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE A, I MEAN, MY PERSONAL OPINIONS, IT WOULD BE, UM, A BETTER BALANCED, UH, COMMITTEE IF WE HAD NINE.
AND THE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO THE PLANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THE, THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE PLANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, MEMBERSHIP, SUBSECTION ONE SHOULD READ, THE CHAIR SHALL APPOINT NINE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS, INCLUDING AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS.
IS THERE, I GUESS IT SHOULD SAY OF CPC, IT DOESN'T SAY OF CPC HERE, BUT IS THAT IMPLICIT? UH, MS. MORRISON? YEAH.
MEMBERS MEANS, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED TO, UH, AMEND THE RULES WITH RESPECT TO THE PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT THE CHAIR SHALL APPOINT NINE MEMBERS, UH, OF THE CITY, NINE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, OF WHICH AT LEAST THREE SHOULD BE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR THIS MOTION? COMMISSIONER RUBIN? SECOND.
ALL IN ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? NO, THE AYES HAVE IT.
WE TURN OUR ATTENTION NOW TO, UH, THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO ZAC.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? UH, SAME COMMENT.
I THINK NINE, WOULD I, I THINK 11 GETS TO BE VERY UNWIELDY, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE EXTREMELY DETAILED PERSNICKETY WORK THAT ZAC HAS CALLED ON TO DO.
UM, I THINK WE'LL BE LUCKY TO FIND NINE PEOPLE,
AND I, I, IT, IT JUST DOESN'T SERVE THESE COMMITTEES WELL TO HAVE PEOPLE TO, TO ENLARGE THE COMMITTEE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE FOCUS THAT YOU NEED.
UM, SO, UM, MY PERSONAL FEELING WOULD BE TO STAY WITH WHAT WE JUST APPROVED FOR A CLUB AND GO WITH NINE AND WITH THREE BEING MEMBERS OF CPC.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER RUBIN? I AM GOING TO RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CARPENTER ON THE SIZE OF ZAC.
I SPENT, I MEAN, A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT WHAT ZAC NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE TASK AT HAND THAT WE HAVE, AND FINDING THE COMBINATION OF SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE AND PUTTING TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, IN, IN PLANNING AND, YOU KNOW, RELATED FIELDS.
PLUS GETTING THAT REPRESENTATIVE, YOU KNOW, VOICES FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, WHO PROVIDE VERY IMPORTANT INPUT.
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BE VERY TECHNICALLY ADEPT, OTHERS WHO ARE VERY WILLING TO WORK UP THEIR, ROLL UP THEIR SLEEVES AND WORK HARD.BUT, YOU KNOW, CODING ITSELF MAY BE, YOU KNOW, NOT THEIR EVERYDAY PRACTICE.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US HERE.
FINDING THAT RIGHT BALANCE AND THAT RIGHT DIVERSITY, I THINK, JUST AS I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, GETS MORE DOABLE WITH 11 AS OPPOSED TO NINE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, UH, I'LL JUST MAKE THE COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN EVENTS SERVED ON COMMITTEES THAT HAD EXTREMELY LARGE MEMBERSHIP, WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH ATTENDANCE THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHETHER THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS THOUGHT THAT WAS SUCH A BIG COMMITTEE, IT WASN'T NECESSARY THAT THEY'D BE PRESENT ALL THE TIME.
IF WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE IT TO 11, I THINK WE NEED TO POSSIBLY AT A FUTURE RULES MEETING, UM, CONSIDER HOW WE DEAL WITH ABSENCES ON THOSE COMMITTEES.
BECAUSE IN THE PAST WHAT'S HAPPENED IS, UM, IF PEOPLE HAD ACCUMULATED ENOUGH ABSENCES TO BE REMOVED, THEY WERE JUST REAPPOINTED.
SO WE ENDED UP WITH COMMITTEES WHERE PEOPLE WERE JUST NOT PARTICIPATING, WHICH IS UNDERCUTS THE VALUE OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND I AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY.
I DO THINK THE PROFILE OF WHO GETS APPOINTED AS A ZAC MEMBER MAY NOT ALWAYS OVERLAP WITH WHO GETS APPOINTED AS A CLUB MEMBER.
I KNOW WE HAD THAT ISSUE WITH ABSENCES ON CLUB.
UM, BUT YEAH, I, I AM ALL ABOUT TAKING A LOOK AT A FUTURE RULES COMMITTEE ON HOW WE DEAL WITH EXCESSIVE ABSENCES UNDER OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
IT'S NOT JUST A CLUB ISSUE IN THE PAST THAT'S PLAGUED TO OTHER COMMITTEES AS WELL.
AND IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF IT, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S HAMPERED THEIR EFFECTIVENESS, BUT IT'S MADE IT UNFAIR TO MEMBERS OF THOSE COMMITTEES AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF CPC WHO HAVE TO STEP IN LAST MINUTE.
SO HAPPY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESS THAT PIECE IN OUR RULES.
ALRIGHT, WELL THAT SAID, I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THE, THE, UM, PROPOSED LANGUAGE AS IT APPEARS IN THE, IN THE, UM, DOCKET COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
IS THAT A, IS THAT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRO PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR ZAC? YES, IT IS.
A MOTION PASSES THERE BEING NO FURTHER, UH, BUSINESS BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
THE COMMITTEE RULES COMMITTEE OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION IS ADJOURNED AT 12:29 PM ON NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025.
ALRIGHT, WHO WAS THE SECOND ON THAT, OR, UH, THE SECOND WAS, UH, ON MOVE TO AJO.
THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025.
IT IS 12:45 PM MS. LOPEZ, CAN WE START OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SIMS. HERE.
COMMISSIONER WILLIE REAGAN? HERE.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT? DISTRICT NINE.
COMMISSIONER COX? PRESENT DISTRICT 12.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBEN? I'M HERE.
YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR? UM, I APOLOGIZE.
I THINK I MISSED THE ROLL CALL.
I WAS RETRIEVING SOMETHING THAT HAD FALLEN.
ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT A FULL HOUSE, UH, TODAY AT THE HORSESHOE.
UH, JUST A FEW HOUSEKEEPING NOTES FOR EVERYONE.
UM, IF YOU ARE HERE AND DO SPEAK, PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE YELLOW NOTE CARDS TO MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
UM, SO WE HAVE A RECORD OF WHO HAS COME, UM, TO SPEAK ON THE ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.
UM, TYPICALLY WE GIVE THREE MINUTES TO EACH SPEAKER, UM, PER ITEM THAT THEY, THEY SPEAK ON.
UM, ALTHOUGH THE BODY AND CHAIR DO HAVE DISCRETION TO ADJUST THAT IF THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS AND OUR RULES ALLOW
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IF THERE IS OPPOSITION ON AN ITEM FOR THE APPLICANT TO HAVE A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL.UM, WHEN YOU DO COMMENT, PLEASE BE SURE TO START WITH YOUR NAME AND REC AND, UH, ADDRESS FOR THE, FOR OUR, OUR RECORDS.
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WILL GO ON TO ITEM TWO ON OUR AGENDA.UH, THE MISCELLANEOUS ZONING ITEM.
THIS IS ITEM TWO, CASE MZ DASH 25 0 0 0 0 1 9.
THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT THREE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 9 98 ON THE NORTH LINE OF EAST 11TH STREET AND THEN EAST OF EIGHTH STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
UH, MR. PEPE, ARE WE READY FOR OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS? YES, SIR.
GOOD TO BE BEFORE THE HORSESHOE AGAIN.
HAVE MR. ANTHONY DAVIS, THE REPRESENTATIVE WITH ME.
CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS.
IT IS GOOD TO BE IN FRONT OF THE HORSESHOE AGAIN.
AND I ALSO HAVE MR. ANTHONY DAVIS, THE REPRESENTATIVE WITH ME FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU BE SURE TO PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US? YES, MY NAME IS JA ANDERSON.
MY ADDRESS IS 5 8 2 9 FOREST HAVEN TRAIL, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 3 2.
UH, MR. DAVIS, DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS? NO, I'M JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM TWO? ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER FORSYTH FOR A MOTION.
UH, CAN I ASK A, A QUESTION? YOU CAN MAKE YOUR MOTION FIRST, THEN YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTION.
IN, IN THE MATTER OF CASE, UH, M MZ DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 1 9.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENY STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
CHIEF COMMENTS COMMISSIONER FORSYTH.
UM, I, I DID WANT TO, UH, ASK, UH, THE DEVELOPER, UH, TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION WITH REGARD TO EGRESS AND INGRESS INTO THIS, UH, THIS NEW, UH, PROPERTY.
AND, UH, ALSO TO EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF PARKING IS BEING PROVIDED? 'CAUSE I I DON'T SEE PARKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WELL, SO THE EGRESS AND INGRESS FOR THE SITE IS, IS LARGELY CONFINED BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINES OF THIS, THIS PARTICULAR SITE, THE SITE IS A REALLY NARROW AND TRICKY SITE TO DEVELOP ON, AND WHICH DISALLOWED US TO BACK INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC.
SO WE HAD TO KEEP THE EGRESS AND INGRESS ON THE SITE, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THE ENTRANCE AND THE TURNAROUND ON THE PARTICULAR SITE.
SO WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS IN ORDER TO DESIGN THE SITE TO FIT THOSE PARTICULAR REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE TWO PARKING SPACES SHOWN.
UM, HOWEVER, WE DID NOT LABEL THEM AS PARKING SPACES CONSIDERING BASED ON OUR PERMITTING AND ZONING REQUIREMENTS, NO PARKING WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UM, WE'RE ALSO WITHIN A MILE, WELL A HALF MILE FOR THE NEAREST TRANSIT.
SO WE FELT LIKE, UM, WE COULD STACK THREE PARKING SPACES.
UM, HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY NOT REALLY A CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE INGRESS AND EGRESS DRIVE.
WHERE, WHERE IS IT ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN? THEY ARE TO THE RIGHT OF THE BUILDING AT THE FRONT.
IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S LANDSCAPING.
I DON'T SEE WHERE IT INDICATES OR SPECIFIES PARKING.
IT DOES NOT SPECIFY PARKING IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE IF WE HAD LABELED PARKING, IT WOULD'VE TRIGGERED US HAVING TO HAVE THREE PARKING SPACES SHOWN.
IF WE HAD THREE PARKING SPACES SHOWN, EACH ONE OF THOSE PARKING SPACES WOULD'VE HAD TO BE WITHIN 15 FEET OF THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE.
CONSIDERING THAT THE SITE IS IN THE TRIANGULAR, UM, FASHION, IT NARROWS AS YOU GET TO THE REAR OF THE SITE,
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WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CRAM THREE PARKING SPACES UP TO THE FRONT OF THE SITE WITHIN 15 FEET OF THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE WHILE HAVING A MINIMUM 70% OF THE FRONT FACADE IN THAT SAME IT'S FRONT YARD SETBACK.BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP ACCORDING TO THE DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND IF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOESN'T SPECIFY PARKING, THEN IF WE PASS THIS, THEN IT ALLOWS YOU BASICALLY TO BUILD THIS WITHOUT ANY PARKING AT ALL.
WELL, IT, IT, IF YOU PASS IT, IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT WE MEET THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND THE, AND WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE PRESENTED, WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN ALLOWS FOR AT LEAST THREE PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD BE STACKED.
WE JUST AREN'T LABELING THEM PARKING AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT WOULD THEN DISALLOW US TO RECEIVE A BUILDING PERMIT.
BUT THE LANDSCAPING AREA IS BASICALLY CONCRETE WHERE THAT PARKING WOULD BE.
AND, AND CAN I ASK, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT HERE WITH THE FACT THAT ON THE, UH, THE WEST SIDE OF YOUR PROPERTY, THERE IS NO, THERE'S NO SETBACK, UH, AT ALL.
IT'S RIGHT, YOU'RE BUILDING RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
CONSIDERING THE, UM, THE PD REQUIREMENTS AND ALSO ZONING REQUIREMENTS THAT DID NOT ALLOW, UM, OR DID NOT REQUIRE A SIDE YARD SETBACK.
UM, WE HAVE MAXIMIZED THE DEVELOPABLE AREA OF THE SITE IN ORDER TO EVEN HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE COULD PUT ON THIS SITE.
OTHERWISE THERE WOULD, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO DESIGN A STRUCTURE THAT MEETS THE ZONING CODE THAT FITS ON THIS SITE.
SO WE HAD, BY GOING BY WHAT WAS REQUIRED, WE WERE ABLE TO END UP WITH THE FOOTPRINT THAT YOU SEE THERE.
WHAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY, UH, UH, MEETINGS HAVE YOU HELD WITH REGARD TO NOTIFYING THE, UH, NEIGHBORS AND THERE ARE ABOUT 15 HOMES ALONG ROCKEFELLER'S DRIVE? HAVE ANY, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PLANNER EARLIER TODAY, THERE WAS NO PUBLIC NOTICE THAT WENT OUT BECAUSE THIS IS JUST APPROVAL OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF OUTREACH DID YOU DO TO THE NEIGHBORS? SINCE THE NEIGHBORS WEREN'T NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS PROJECT? WE HAD OUTREACH TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE SITE.
UM, CONSIDERING THAT THERE WAS NO PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIRED, WE DIDN'T HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT THE NEIGHBORS ADJACENT TO THE SITE, ONE BEING AN AUTO MANU AUTO FACILITY AND ONE BEING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UM, WERE MORE RELATED TO THE PARKING.
UM, WE INITIALLY, UH, WE APPROACHED THEM ASKING IF WE COULD UTILIZE THEIR SITE FOR INGRESS AND EGRESS SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THE TURNAROUND RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SITE OR THE BUILDING.
UM, HOWEVER, THE ELDERLY NATURE OF THE RESIDENT THAT'S THERE DID NOT WANT THAT TRAFFIC GOING ACROSS HIS PROPERTY, WHICH WE UNDERSTOOD.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE DID ANOTHER ITERATION TO KEEP THAT PARKING ON OUR SITE.
THEY HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE BUILDING ITSELF.
THEY DID KNOW THAT IT WAS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY, UM, AND WE WERE MAXIMIZING IT.
SO IF FOR TO THAT POINT THEY WERE HAPPY TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DEVELOPMENT THERE.
UM, BUT THERE WAS NO PUSHBACK IN ANY OTHER REGARD.
AND, AND, AND FINALLY MY FINAL QUESTION, UH, JASMINE IS THE, UH, PD UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, UH, HOUSEWRIGHT, UH, BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER TODAY.
THE PD STATES THAT, UH, THE, UH, YOU HAVE TO DO, IF YOU'RE DOING ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THIS PROPERTY, THAT YOU HAVE TO NOTIFY THE SKYLINE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
HAS THAT NOTICE BEEN GIVEN? THAT NOTICE WAS GIVEN MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
WE'VE BEEN AT THIS PROCESS ABOUT THREE YEARS AT THIS POINT.
MS. MORRISON, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU NEEDED TO MENTION? YES.
I JUST WANNA REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT, UM, APPROVAL OF A DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS A MINISTERIAL FUNCTION OF THE COMMISSION.
IF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UM, COMPLIES WITH THE ZONING ON THE GROUND, THEN THE COMMISSION MUST, UM, MUST APPROVE THE PLAN.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A MOTION TO DENY THE PLAN ON, ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW, AND IF THE COMMISSION WISHES TO IN FACT, DENY THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE NEEDS TO BE A VERY SPECIFIC FINDING OF FACT AND A STATEMENT MADE ON THE RECORD OF WHAT, ON THE PLAN ACTUALLY VIOLATES THE ZONING.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION? IN LIGHT OF THE GUIDANCE THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE DEVELOPMENT
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PLAN DOES NOT SHOW PARKING.AND, AND MY QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY IS IF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN DOES NOT SHOW, UH, PARKING AND WE APPROVE THIS, THEN TECHNICALLY WOULD THE BUILDER BE ABLE TO BUILD THIS OUT WITHOUT ANY PARKING, EVEN THOUGH HE'S INDICATING THE PARKING WOULD BE PROVIDED? SHOULDN'T IT BE ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN CLEARLY MARKED THAT THERE'S PARKING, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT.
SO SINCE THIS IS IN REVIEW AND IT'S BEEN IN REVIEW FOR A WHILE, WE HAVE THE PARKING REFORM THAT JUST GOT PASSED.
AND SO FOR ANY DWELLING UNITS UNDER 20, THERE'S NO REQUIRED PARKING.
SO WE REVIEWED THIS UNDER THAT NEW LAW.
SO THERE'S NO PARKING REQUIRED FOR THE CITY FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
NOW IF THEY WANT TO GO IN AND PUT PARKING WHEN THEY DEVELOP IT, THEY CAN, BUT RIGHT NOW THE CITY DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY PARKING FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS.
SO IF THERE'S NO PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE USE THAT THIS PLAN IS FOR, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT PARKING BE SHOWN ON THE PLAN.
SO THE FACT THAT THE PLAN DOES NOT SHOW ANY PARKING WOULD NOT VIOLATE THE ZONING AND THEREFORE IT CANNOT BE USED AS A REASON TO DENY THE PLAN.
BUT THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS APPROVED IN 2018.
SHOULDN'T THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT WAS PASSED IN 2018? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE PARKING SECTION, IT SENDS US BACK TO 51 A AND SINCE THAT SECTION HAS BEEN AMENDED, THEN WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE NEW AMENDMENT FOR THAT SECTION THAT'S CURRENTLY, UM, WE'RE REVIEWING RIGHT NOW.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, I'M GONNA WITHDRAW MY SECOND.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER FORSYTH'S MOTION? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH'S MOTION TO DENY FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
DO WE HAVE A NEW MOTION, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, OR DOES SOMEONE ELSE WANNA MAKE A MOTION IN, IN THE MATTER OF CASE MZ 25 DASH 0 0 1 9.
I MOVE THAT WE HOLD, KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT TO GIVE THE DEVELOPER THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT SHOWS THE PARKING AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE IT.
MR. CHAIR, THAT MOTION IS OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE PLAN SHOW PARKING.
SO THE COMMISSION CANNOT DEMAND THAT THE DEVELOPER COME BACK WITH A PLAN THAT SHOWS PARKING.
THAT IS THE RULING OF OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN, UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, DO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT MOTION, UH, MR. CHAIR, UH, UNDER DURESS IN THE MATTER OF CASE MZ DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 1 9, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FORSYTH FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? UM, I, I'LL JUST MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT.
YOU KNOW, OUR HANDS IN THESE MISCELLANEOUS ZONING ITEMS ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY MUCH TIED.
IF IT MEETS THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, THEN WE DO NEED TO APPROVE IT.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY WAY IN WHICH, UM, THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE PD.
THEY SAID THAT'S NOT A COMMENT ON THE, THE MERITS OF THE DESIGN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE BOUND BY WHAT THE CODE BONDS US BY, SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FORTE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KINGSTON TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
[Zoning Cases - Consent:]
WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, UM, WHICH RIGHT NOW, UH, IF IT'S, UH, I THINK ITEM THREE, OKAY, THREE HAS COME OFF, FIVE HAS COME OFF, SIX HAS COME OFF, SEVEN HAS COME OFF.SO ITEMS FOUR AND EIGHT ARE ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE'RE HA WE, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON ANY OF 'EM, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM OFF.
OTHERWISE, UM, THOSE TWO ITEMS WILL BE APPROVED OF IN A SINGLE MOTION.
DOES ANYONE WANNA SPEAK ON ITEMS FOUR OR EIGHT? ALRIGHT, UH, CAN WE READ THE CONSENT AGENDA INTO THE RECORD? GOOD AFTERNOON FOR NAME, RIGHT? YEP.
ITEM FOUR IS CASE Z 2 500 0 1 0 9.
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AN APPLICATION FOR R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF CANADA.DRIVE NORTHEAST OF DARIEN STREET.
ITEM EIGHT IS CASE Z 2 500 0 1 29.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO DEED RESTRICTIONS DR.
Z 180 9, 1 66 ON PROPERTY ZONED ME ONE MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS DR.
Z 180 9 1 66 ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF MOHAWK DRIVE, SOUTHEAST OF EMPIRE CENTRAL PLACE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO DEED RESTRICTIONS Z 180 9 1 66 VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES IN THE MATTER OF THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FOUR AND EIGHT, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS READ INTO THE RECORD.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, COMMISSIONER OR VICE-CHAIR HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES CASE NUMBER THREE,
[3. 25-3351A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit 2215 for the sale of alcoholic beverages on property zoned RR Regional Retail District with D-1 Liquor Control Overlay District, on the southwest corner of E. R. L. Thornton Fwy. and N Jim Miller Rd. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Scott Griffin - Racetrac, Inc. Representative: Daniel Box - Winstead, PC Planner: Lori Levy, AICP Council District: 7 Z-25-000084]
MR. CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS.ITEM NUMBER THREE IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 2215.
THIS IS FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON PROPERTY ZONED RR REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITH D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY DISTRICT.
IT'S LOCATED ON THE SO SOUTHWEST CORNER OF EAST RL THORNTON FREEWAY AND NORTH JIM MILLER ROAD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS ACTUALLY SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE WOULD THEY LIKE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU.
GOOD AFTERNOON, LAURA HOFFMAN, 27 28 NORTH HARWOOD STREET.
WE'RE HERE AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM RACETRACK AND RACEWAY ARE HERE ALSO, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM THREE? IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 8 4.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH A CHANGE FROM PERMANENT SUP TO FIVE YEARS.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR MOTION.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOUSE RIGHT TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO WITH SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS, BUT FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD AS OPPOSED TO PERMANENT.
THE MOTION CARRIES WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
UH, WE DID NOT MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
[5. 25-3353A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit 2400 for an animal shelter or clinic with outside runs on property zoned RS-C Regional Service Commercial Subdistrict within Planned Development District 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the northwest line of Logan St, southwest of Malcolm X Blvd. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions. Applicant: Cassandra Dawg Laster Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 7 Z-25-000137]
ITEM FIVE IS, UH, AN APPLICATION FOR AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 2,400 FOR ANIMAL SHELTER OR CLINIC WITH OUTSIDE RUNS ON PROPERTY ZONE RS DASH C REGIONAL COMM, REGIONAL SERVICE COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 5 9 5.THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF LOGAN STREET, SOUTHWEST OF MALCOLM X BOULEVARD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL SUBJECT TO S UH, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE? COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
AND I'M HERE IF SOMEONE HAS A QUESTION.
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IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM FIVE? ALRIGHT, SECOND.COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
I THINK COMMISSIONER HOUSE PROBABLY WILL, UM, IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 1 3 7.
I MOVED TO FILE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S SOME CHANGES THAT WAS YES, I THINK THE APPLICANT WANTED TO STRIKE CONDITION SEVEN A, WHICH IS ANIMALS MAY NOT BE OUTDOORS BETWEEN 6:30 AM AND 9:30 AM MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY TO STRIKE.
SO, UM, I THINK WE HAD TO HAVE A DISCUSSION BEFORE SAYING THAT NO, YOU CAN MAKE A, A MOTION TO DO WHATEVER YOU SEE FIT.
UM, I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION BUT IT PROBABLY CHANGES.
UH, TO AND ALSO STRIKE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 7 8 7 7 8.
OKAY, SO IT'S A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHEELER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF STRIKING SECTION SEVEN A OF THE SUP CONDITION.
CAN I GET CLARIFICATION? IS IT SEVEN A OR SEVEN A AND B THAT YOU'RE STRIKING? DO YOU REALLY, DO YOU WANT TO, UM, STRIKE THE PROVISION THAT THE OUTSIDE OUTDOOR AREA MUST BE STAFF SUPERVISED WHEN UTILIZED AND IS LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF SIX DOGS AT THE SAME TIME? I THINK THAT'S NOT THE ONE THAT SHE NO, YOU WANT TO, IT'S THE REQUEST THAT SHE, SHE JUST FOR THE HOUR SIX 30 TO 9:00 AM YES, THAT'S THE REQUEST SAID THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE STRIKING SEVEN A I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT SHE SAID, I THOUGHT WE SAID SEVEN A BUT, OKAY.
SO IT, IT IS, IT'S, IT'S THE APPLICANT REQUEST FOR SEVEN A TO BE STRIKE SEVEN A THANK YOU TO BE STRIKED.
SO THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION TO FOLLOW WITH THE, WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS.
IS THAT CLEAR TO STAFF AND THE CAO.
AND THEN I THINK COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT IS GONNA ASK THE QUESTION THAT HE ASKED IN THE MENT.
DID YOU WANT ANY, DID YOU WANNA COMMENT COMMISSIONER WHEELER? NO QUESTIONS.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SECOND? OH, SECOND.
ANY, COULD I GET ONE MORE CLARIFICATION? OF COURSE.
IS THE INTENTION FOR A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD? YES, BUT I DO HAVE A COMMENT.
YES, BUT THE COME IN I THINK IS RELATED TO THE REASON THAT SHE WANTED TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE OF SUMMER HOURS.
WHAT WAS IT? CAN YOU GIVE US CLARIFICATION SO THAT WE CAN GET CLARIFICATION FROM UM, NO, I, YEAH, I WA I WASN'T QUESTIONING THAT DECISION.
MY QUESTION WAS FOR THE TIME PERIOD FOR THE SUP AS A WHOLE YES.
WANTED IT TO BE A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD.
YES, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM, BUT I THINK THAT QUESTION NEEDED TO BE ASKED AS RELATES TO THE, UH, WHAT WAS ASKED IN THE BRIEFING ABOUT THE HOURS COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
ORDINARILY I WOULD SUPPORT THIS MOTION, BUT I CANNOT SUPPORT THE MOTION WITH AN ENDLESS SUP.
UM, WE HAVE SEEN OTHER CASES FOR USES LIKE THIS THAT HAVE BEEN PROBLEMATIC AND I THINK THE SUP WITH A FINITE TIME ENCOURAGES THE OPERATOR TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO BE A RESPONSIBLE OPERATION.
UM, AND WITHOUT AN END TO IT THAT IT'S, IT IS EXCEEDINGLY DIFFICULT TO TAKE THAT SUP AWAY.
AND I THINK THAT THAT TIME LIMIT PROTECTS THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO IF I COULD SUPPORT SOMETHING WITH LIKE A FIVE-YEAR SUP SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS.
AM I ABLE TO MAKE A COMMENT? UH, THE TIME FOR YOUR COMMENTS HAS PASSED, BUT MEMBERS AT THIS POINT CAN ASK YOU QUESTIONS.
IT WAS FOR HER TO CLARIFY THE REASON FOR THE STRIKING SEVEN.
SO THE REASON IS BECAUSE THAT IS EARLY AND THE, THE, THE, THE DOGS HAVE TO GO OUT TO USE THE RESTROOM MM-HMM
SO IF WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE OUTSIDE FROM SIX TO NINE FROM OPENING, THEN THAT IS LIKE THE SOON AS WE GET THERE AND THE DOGS HAVE TO USE THE RESTROOM.
SO, UM, THAT IS WHY WE ASKED FOR IT TO BE STRIKED.
AND WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO A, A SHORTER SUP INSTEAD OF PERMANENT? IT'S LIKE 10 YEARS, YES.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MED MY MOTION TO MAKE THE SUP FROM PERMANENT TO 10 YEARS.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER WHEELER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KINGSTON TO AMEND
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THE MOTION TO BE A 10 YEAR SUP.ANY DISCUSSION? UM, I WILL JUST SAY I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION TO GO DOWN TO 10 YEARS FROM PERMANENT.
THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF, I THINK A VERY COMMERCIAL AREA AND I DON'T THINK THE PROTECTION OF A, I DON'T THINK THERE IT'S NECESSARY TO GET DOWN TO 10 YEARS HERE, BUT, UM, WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A, UH, MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO MOVE IT DOWN TO A 10 YEAR SUP FROM UNLIMITED.
ANY OPPOSED? NAY ONE? THE MOTION CARRIES.
SO WE'RE BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION, UM, OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITION STRIKING SEVEN A AND DOING A 10 YEAR SUP AS OPPOSED TO UNLIMITED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
MR. CHAIR? YES, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING, CAN I ASK YOU TO LEAN INTO THE MICROPHONE? OF COURSE.
I'M A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGED HEARING WISE.
I ASKED MY COLLEAGUE TO MY LEFT IF SHE WAS HEARING YOU AND WE'RE NOT.
IF YOU COULD SPEAK HAPPY TO DO THAT AND ALSO ENCOURAGE OTHER COMMISSIONERS TO DO THE SAME.
[6. 25-3354A An application for an amendment to Planned Development 201, on the west corner of Oak Grove Ave and Lemmon Ave E. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to an amended development plan, landscape plan, and amended conditions. Applicant: Brian Hennessy [Vision Hospitality Group] Representative: Suzan Kedron Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 14 Z-25-000125 (Part 1 of 2)]
IS CASE Z 2 525.AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT 2 0 1 ON THE WEST CORNER OF OAK GROVE AVENUE IN LEMON AVENUE EAST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS.
UH, MS. KEDRON, GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
SUZANNE KEDRON, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.
UH, I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY WITH VISION HOSPITALITY.
IT'S A HOSPITALITY COMPANY THAT OWNS 42 HOTELS ACROSS NINE STATES.
A COUPLE PEOPLE I'D JUST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, BRIAN HENNESSY HERE AND AS WELL, UH, KEVIN WARWICK.
THEIR PRINCIPLES OF, UH, VISION HOSPITALITY.
UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE.
THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE IN DALLAS, HOPEFULLY.
UH, IT'S LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF LEMON AND OAK GROVE.
WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS A FORTY NINE A HUNDRED AND FORTY NINE KEY SELECT SERVICE HOTEL.
I'M JUST HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
I KNOW YOU HAD SOME ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS HANDED OUT TO YOU.
WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THOSE AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER SIX? DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 5 0 0.
I LOST MY PLACE IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 2 5.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE APPLICATION.
UM, SUBJECT TO THE, UM, AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
AND I DID SEND THESE OUT SO EVERYBODY HAS 'EM IN THEIR INBOX.
UM, SECTION 2 0 1 0.105 ADD AT THE BEGINNING OF SUBSECTION A EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN THIS SECTION.
THE FOLLOWING USES ARE PROHIBITED.
AUTO SERVICE CENTER, CONVENIENCE STORE WITH DRIVE THROUGH ELECTRIC SUBSTATION, GAS, DRILLING AND PRODUCTION RADIO, TELEVISION, MICROWAVE, TOWER RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THROUGH, DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE.
TEMPORARY CONCRETE OR ASPHALT BATCHING, PLANT, CARNIVAL, OR CIRCUS.
TEMPORARY CAR WASH OR FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WOULD DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH IN SECTION SUB, I'M SORRY, SECTION 2 0 1 0.107.
UNDER SECTION B, FRONT YARD ADD SUBSECTION ONE FOR THE PROJECT SHOWN ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, AND THEN IT'LL READ A MINIMUM.
FRONT YARD, FEET, UH, FRONT YARD IS FIVE FEET, B, NO URBAN FORM SETBACK IS REQUIRED.
AND THEN SUBSECTION TWO WILL BE ADDED TO SAY FOR ALL OTHER PROJECTS, MU THREE STANDARDS APPLY IN SUBSECTION 2 0 1 1 0 8 A WILL ADD THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE TO THE BEGINNING.
IN GENERAL ACCEPT AS PROVIDED IN THIS SECTION.
AND THEN YOU'LL ADD A ONE THAT SAYS RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN, DRIVE-IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ONE SPACE PER 100 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA TWO GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD.
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SPACE PER 250 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA.SUBSECTION 2 0 1 DASH 1 1 1, SCRATCH THE WORDS OR TURRET.
AND THEN IN SUB IN E OF THAT SECTION, UM, WE WILL ADD A SUB SUBSECTION TWO THAT SAYS, LIGHT COLORED ROOF MATERIALS THAT MINIMIZE COOLING LOADS MUST BE USED ON ALL ROOFS.
AND THEN SECTION F WILL BE AMENDED TO READ PARKING STRUCTURE.
SCREENING AND ABOVE GRADE PARKING STRUCTURE MUST BE SCREENED WITH MATERIAL THAT IS ARCHITECTURALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE MAIN BUILDING AND EXPRESSED IN THE SAME FACADE AS THE MAIN BUILDING.
SCREENING MUST BE PROVIDED TO SHIELD VEHICLES AND VEHICLE HEADLIGHTS FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THEN ADD SECTION H, OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND, OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND IS PROHIBITED.
RECYCLING CONTAINERS MUST BE AVAILABLE FOR ALL USERS.
AND THEN ADD SECTION J BICYCLE PARKING, A MINIMUM OF FIVE BICYCLE STORAGE SPACES MUST BE PROVIDED.
THOSE ARE THE CHANGES, UH, THAT I'M PROPOSING AS PART OF MY MOTION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
VICE CHAIR HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND MS. MORRISON, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED TO RAISE? YEAH, I JUST, UM, EVERYTHING IN THE MOTION IS, IS FINE WITH EX WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOR PARKING STRUCTURE SCREENING THE LANGUAGE ABOUT HOW, UH, THE SCREENING MUST BE OF A MATERIAL THAT IS ARCHITECTURALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE MAIN BUILDING AND EXPRESSED IN THE, ON THE SAME FACADE AS THE MAIN BUILDING.
UM, AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A STATE LAW THAT THAT LIMITS US FROM REQUIRING CERTAIN MATERIALS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY, UM, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THAT COME OUT OF THE MOTION.
DO YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE? MY INTENT IS FOR IT TO BE WITHIN THE BUILDING AND LOOK LIKE IT'S THE BUILDING.
I'M JUST THINKING FOR A SECOND.
UM, I MEAN, I THINK FOR NOW IF WE JUST TOOK OUT WITH A MATERIAL THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SAY THAT IS SCREENED IN A MANNER THAT IS ARCHITECTURALLY COMPATIBLE.
CAN WE SHELF THIS SO I CAN LOOK AT SOME LANGUAGE AND COME BACK TO THIS CASE? DO WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE? CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS FOR A MOMENT? YES.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR OR COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
UH, AND DO WE NEED TO TABLE TO A SPECIFIC TIME? ARE WE GOOD? OKAY.
ANY OPPOSED? NAY? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE ITEM IS TABLED.
[7. 25-3355A An application for an amendment to add the sale of alcoholic beverages to Specific Use Permit 2441 for a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service on property zoned NO(A) Neighborhood Office District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the south line of Bruton Rd., east of Pleasant Dr. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to amended conditions. Applicant: Rosalba Betancourt Garcia & Noe Moises Santoyo [Sole Owners] Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 5 Z-25-000119]
SEVEN.AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO ADD THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 2, 4, 4, 1 FOR A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVING OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE.
NOA NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF BRITAIN ROAD EAST OF PLEASANT DRIVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? COMMISSIONER SERRADA, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 5 0 0 1 1 9.
UM, I RECOMMEND TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL DECEMBER 4TH.
COMMISSIONER SERRETO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER SIMS. ANY DISCUSSION? UM, I, I DO HAVE A, A COUPLE OF COURSE, A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D LIKE TO SHARE.
UM, I DID REACH OUT TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY COMMUNITY INPUT OR MEETINGS THAT WERE HELD.
IT IS A RESTAURANT THAT, UM, ACROSS THE STREET THERE IS A CHARTER SCHOOL AND THEN, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SURROUNDING IT.
SO I, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT ALCOHOL SALES, UM, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, AND SO I, I'D LIKE TO GET MORE COMMUNITY INPUT ON IT.
ADDITIONALLY, IT IS A SUP WITH, UM, NO EXPIRATION.
SO, UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ABOUT LIKE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, AND I'M, I'M LEARNING HERE.
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN,
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UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING A FIVE YEAR SUP WITH AUTOMATIC RENEWAL AND LIKE UNLIMITED? LIKE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THERE? 'CAUSE IF IT AUTOMATICALLY RENEWS, LIKE IS THERE GONNA BE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO? SURE.WITH THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL PROCESS, UH, IT STILL REQUIRES, LET'S SAY, UM, IT REQUIRES ACTION ON THE PART OF THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT THAT REQUEST FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
UH, THE WINDOW OPENS, I BELIEVE IT'S SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION DATE AND CLOSES.
IS IT TWO MONTHS, THREE MONTHS PRIOR? TWO MONTHS PRIOR, YEAH.
SO YOU HAVE A WINDOW THERE TO REQUEST AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, IF IT'S WITHIN THE PARAMETERS, IF THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE SITE PLAN CONDITIONS OR ANYTHING, THEN I BELIEVE IT'S IT'S APPROVED AS A MATTER OF COURSE BY STAFF AS A STAFF DECISION, RIGHT? YE YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
EXCEPT WE DO MAIL THE AREA, THE PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND, AND THEN IF THERE'S A OPPOSITION THRESHOLD THAT'S PASSED, THERE WE GO, THEN IT, IT, IT DOES TRIGGER A FULL HEARING FOR IT.
SO IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION RECEIVED TO THAT, THEN IT, IT JUST IS AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED AS A MATTER OF COURSE.
WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF S OUT THERE WITH AUTOMATIC RENEWALS THAT FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, HAVE KIND OF OPERATED AS A PERMANENT SUP JUST BECAUSE THE APPLICANT'S GOOD ABOUT FILING FOR THE RENEWAL, THE ITEM DOESN'T RECEIVE ANY OPPOSITION AND IT JUST KIND OF CONTINUES IN PERPETUITY.
UH, WITH A PERMANENT SUP, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR THAT APPLICATION FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL.
THERE'S NO SENDING OUT OF A NOTICE OF A REQUEST FOR RENEWAL BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR IT.
UH, THE COMMISSION CAN ALWAYS, UH, CALL FOR AN AUTHORIZED HEARING ON AN SUP IF FOR WHATEVER REASON A USE IS CONSIDERED TO POTENTIALLY NOW BE INCOMPATIBLE.
UH, THE COMMISSION CAN ALWAYS DO AN AUTHORIZED HEARING FOR AN SUP TO DETERMINE IF THAT USE IS STILL APPROPRIATE IN THE AREA OR IF CHANGES OUGHT TO BE MADE TO THAT SUP, WHETHER THE CONDITIONS OR THE SITE PLAN, ET CETERA.
UH, I WILL SAY IT IS NOT QUITE AS E YOU KNOW, AS MAYBE A STRAIGHTFORWARD PROCESS AS THE APPLICATION FOR AMENDMENTS.
UM, BUT THAT IS A, A TOOL THAT IS AVAILABLE WITH THIS BODY.
AND, UH, MICHAEL, IF YOU COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT OR ADD SOME COLOR FOR THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS FOR SUVS.
IS THAT UNDER THE SAME KIND OF, I KNOW OUR BROAD, BROADER AUTHORIZED HEARING GROUP HAS, UM, A BIT OF A BACKLOG FOR BIG REZONINGS, BUT FOR SS, IS IT A LITTLE FASTER? I WOULD SAY TYPICALLY WHEN THOSE OCCUR, THEY RUN FOR A SMALLER SITUATION LIKE A, UM, LIKE A TERMINATION OR EVALUATION OF AN SUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, IT RUNS WITH A DIFFERENT TIMELINE, WHICH IS FASTER.
WE DID A COUPLE, UH, THIS YEAR THAT DON'T GO INTO THAT SAME NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE QUEUE.
UM, YEAH, STAY WITH A HOLDING UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL DECEMBER 4TH WITH, UH, THE HOPES THAT THEY GET SOME COMMUNITY INPUT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SERATO, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIMS TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER UNTIL DECEMBER 4TH.
ANY OPPOSED? NAY? THE MOTION CARRIES.
LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND BE BACK AT ONE 30.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, LET'S GET BACK ON THE RECORD.
IT IS 1:35 PM UH, WE WILL GO TO
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
COMMISSIONER HALL TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE MINUTES.I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 6TH CPC MEETING AS POSTED.
COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR SECOND, UH, VICE CHAIR HARBERT.
[6. 25-3354A An application for an amendment to Planned Development 201, on the west corner of Oak Grove Ave and Lemmon Ave E. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to an amended development plan, landscape plan, and amended conditions. Applicant: Brian Hennessy [Vision Hospitality Group] Representative: Suzan Kedron Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 14 Z-25-000125 (Part 2 of 2)]
TO CASE NUMBER SIX, WHICH WE TABLED EARLIER.DO WE NEED TO READ THAT BACK IN MS. MORRISON? ARE WE OKAY TO JUST TAKE IT UP? NO, I THINK COMMISSIONER KINGSTON CAN JUST PROVIDE US SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT SUBSECTION F ABOUT, UH, PARKING STRUCTURE SCREENING.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
OKAY, SO TAKING IT OFF THE TABLE ON THE TABLE, WHATEVER THE PHRASE IS.
COMMISSIONER SIMS, I SCREWED THAT UP.
UM, I WANNA GO BACK AND CLARIFY IN SECTION 2 0 1 DASH 1 1 1, SUBSECTION F SHOULD READ PARKING STRUCTURE SCREENING AND ABOVE GRADE PARKING STRUCTURE MUST BE SCREENED WITH MATERIAL THAT'S ARCHITECTURALLY COMPATIBLE WITH AND LOCATED WITHIN THE ENVELOPE OF THE MAIN BUILDING.
SCREENING MUST BE PROVIDED TO SHIELD VEHICLES AND VEHICLE HEADLIGHTS FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR REVISED MOTION.
THANK YOU VICE CHAIR HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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CARRIES.[9. 25-3357A An application for a MF-2(A) Multifamily District on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, between the north terminus of North Boulevard Terrace and Plymouth Road. Staff Recommendation: Approval of a TH-3(A) Townhouse District. Applicant: Christian Chernock Representative: Audra Buckley U/A From: September 4, 2025 and October 9, 2025. Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 1 Z-25-000069]
WE WILL GO TO CASE NUMBER NINE AND SINCE THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE HELD, UM, FOR ALMOST TWO MONTHS UNTIL JANUARY 15TH, WE'LL DO ONE MINUTE PER SPEAKER ON THIS ONE.ITEM NINE IS CASE Z 2 500 0 0 69.
AN APPLICATION FOR A MF TWO, A MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT BETWEEN THE NORTH TERMINUS AND NORTH BOULEVARD TERRACE AND PLYMOUTH ROAD.
STATUS'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF A TH THREE, A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT.
ALRIGHT, UM, I SEE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
IF YOU HEAR MS. BUCKLEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? OKAY.
AND I KNOW SOME FOLKS WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION ARE HERE.
UM, DO ANY OF Y'ALL WISH TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM? YES.
I AM THE OWNER OF 8 18 8 24 AND EIGHT 30 NORTH HAMPTON ROAD DEVELOPMENT.
UH, OUR FILES WERE SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS YESTERDAY FOR YOUR FILE AND USE.
UH, DURING THE CCP, THE OCTOBER CPC MEETING, THE APPLICANT CLARIFIED THAT THEIR PROPOSED PLANNING CHANGES WILL NOT ALIGN WITH THE MF TWO DESIGNATION.
IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT STATED THAT THEIR AIM WAS TO EXPAND THE REQUEST TO INCLUDE THE ENTIRE FIVE ACRE SITE EXTENDING EASTWARD TOWARDS HAMPTON ROAD, WHICH ENCOMPASSES THE WHOLE AREA LATER, UH, THAT THAT MONTH, EX THAT MONTH, UH, WE HAD A CHARETTE, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT.
THEY PRESENTED THE TH THREE SITE SATURATION CONCEPT FOR ONLY 2.9 ACRES.
THE APPLICANT'S VISION FOR THE ENTIRE FIVE ACRES SITE WAS NOT CENTRAL TO OUR DISCUSSION.
THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS CONTINUE TO HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING THE APPLICANT'S VISION FOR THE ENTIRE SITE, THE DESIGN OF ALONG HAMPTON ROAD AND THE PROTECTION OF COMBES CREEK WATERSHED IN MY CAREER.
MY, WE'RE WE'RE DOING ONE MINUTE PER SPEAKER SINCE THIS ONE IS BEING HELD.
UM, I JUST WANNA GO TO THE LAST PARAGRAPH, SIR.
THAT, THAT CONCLUDES YOUR TIME.
ANGIE MOBLEY, 8 0 8 NORTH HAMPTON ROAD.
UM, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF WEST KESSLER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I JUST WANNA SAY WE HAVE MAJOR TRUST ISSUES WITH THIS APPLICANT.
AS BOB SAID, HE TOLD US A WHOLE DIFFERENT PLAN THAT THAN AT THE LAST MEETING THAN THEY'RE DOING NOW.
UM, HE'S ASKED US TO LOOK AT HIS PORTFOLIO OF PROPERTIES, WHICH INCLUDES A HOSTEL ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOME, WHICH STARTED OUT WITH BEDS AT $10 PER NIGHT, EIGHT BEDS TO A ROOM.
HE ALSO HAS APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT HE OPERATES AS SHORT TERM, UH, RENTALS.
HE, WHILE HE WAS PLANNING COMMISSIONER, URGED THE, UM, THE COMMISSION TO ALTER THE DEFINITION TO CHANGE THEM TO BE, UH, CLASSIFIED AS HOTELS SO THAT THEY COULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS SHORT TERM RENTALS.
WHICH BRINGS US TO, WHAT IS HE PLANNING TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY? IS HE JUST TRYING TO GIVE US MORE SHORT TERM RENTALS? UM, WE KNOW THAT'S YOUR TIME.
I'M THE CO-OWNER OF STEVENS PARK RESERVE, UM, WHICH IS LOCATED ON EAST HAMPTON ROAD, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE ACREAGE ASSEMBLED BY THE APPLICANT.
AND CONTINUING TO WHAT ANGIE MOBLEY JUST SAID, UH, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE EXPERIENCED HOW THE APPLICANT OPERATES THIS SPECIFIC SHORT, SHORT TERM RENTAL.
IT HAS ISSUES, CARS COMING AND GOING AT ALL HOURS, GUEST PARKING ALL OVER THE LAWN, ELDERLY NEIGHBORS STARTLED AT NIGHT BY GUEST KNOCKING ON THE WRONG DOOR, A REMOVED FENCE IN THE BACK THAT EXPOSES THE HOUSE TO NORTH BOULEVARD TERRACE, A STREET WHERE MANY CHILDREN LIVE AND PLAY OUTSIDE IN THEIR FRONT YARDS.
AND INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE R AND R HOSTEL AND WALKING DOWN NORTH BOULEVARD TERRACE TO DAVIS AND BACK REPEATEDLY DROPPING THEIR LITTER ALONG THE WAY.
INCLUSIVE OF DROP CONDOMS. THANK YOU.
HI, I'M REBECCA MOORE, PRESIDENT OF L LEE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I LIVE AT 27 36 MA MATURE STREET,
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7 5 2 1 1.OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOCATED JUST SOUTHWEST OF THE PROPOSED ZONING EXCHANGE AREA AND BORDERS PLYMOUTH ROAD.
OUR MAIN CONCERNS ARE ENVIRONMENTAL ONES SUCH AS RUNOFF, EROSION AND MORE SERIOUSLY SERIOUS FLOODING.
ON PLYMOUTH, WE HAVE SEEN PLYMOUTH ROADS ASPHALT BREAK OFF IN BIG CHUNKS BY THE FORCE OF WATER SPILLING OVER COOMBS CREEK.
WE HAVE DODGE TREE LIMBS AND DEBRIS WASHING OVER THE ROAD CITY PROPERTY IN THE FORM OF STEVENS PARK.
GOLF COURSE IS LOCATED ACROSS THE CREEK FROM THIS.
AND THE CITY HAS SPENT $2.6 MILLION IN 2017 BOND ALONE ON EROSION CONTROL IN THIS AREA.
WE HAVE ASKED FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO TAKE EROSION RUNOFF AND FLOODING INTO CONSIDERATION PLANS THE DEVELOPER HAS EXHIBITED, HAVE SHOWN NO REGARD IN THIS MATTER AND HAVE BEEN ADVERSELY PEELED WITH CONCRETE AND NO BUFFER ZONE PROTECTING THE CREEK.
THESE FACTORS SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN TALK AT THIS DEVELOPMENT STARTED.
DISCUSSED FOR 10 YEARS, A DELAY WITHOUT A PLAN AS TO WHERE THIS WILL LEAVE WITH NO PUBLIC INTEREST.
UM, DALLAS IS GROWING QUICKLY.
URBAN EXPANSION IS INEVITABLE.
SIR, CAN YOU START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? SURE.
I LIVE AT 8 0 8 NORTH HAMPTON ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS.
MAY I START MR. BECKHAM? WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
URBAN EXPANSION IS INEVITABLE, BUT ECOLOGICAL HARM IS NOT IF WE PRIORITIZE SUSTAINABLE DESIGN, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, FLOOD MITIGATION PLANNING, AND THE LONG-TERM HEALTH OF OUR WATERWAYS.
SO TODAY I ASK THIS AS THE PAST PRESIDENT OF COOMBS CREEK CONSERVANCY ON ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD, PLEASE KEEP OUR CREEKS AND REPAIRING CORRIDORS AT THE CENTER OF YOUR DELIBERATIONS.
STEWARDSHIP IS NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.
STEWARDSHIP IS WHAT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT TO ENDURE A DELAY WITHOUT A PLAN AND KNOWING WHERE THIS IS GOING, SERVES NO PUBLIC INTEREST.
I ASK FOR A DENIAL WITH PREJUDICE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES.
OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE HAVE TRIED MANY TIMES TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AFTER ALL THE MEETINGS, ALL THE CONVERSATIONS AND ALL THE PROMISES OF REVISED PLANS.
THE TRUTH IS NOTHING HAS CHANGED, NOTHING HAS BEEN FILED, NOTHING NEW HAS BEEN FILED.
NOTHING NEW HAS BEEN SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY.
NOTHING REFLECTS FORWARD DALLAS.
SO AT THIS POINT IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A PARTNERSHIP.
IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE BEING TALKED AT AND NOT LISTENED TO A DELAY WITHOUT A PLAN OR ANY INDICATION ON WHERE THIS IS GOING.
SERVES NO PUBLIC PURPOSE BASED ON WHAT IS IN THIS APPLICATION TODAY.
A GENERAL ZONING REQUEST OF ONLY HALF OF THE SIDE, I WOULD URGE YOUR VOTE FOR DENIAL WITH PREJUDICE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON? CASE NUMBER NINE.
COMMISSIONER SIMS, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF CASE Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 6 9.
I MOVE THAT THIS CASE BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY 15TH, 2026.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED BRIEFLY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU, UM, TO MR. CHAIR TO ADVISE YOU AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION ON WHERE WE ARE IN THIS MATTER.
THAT AS ONE OF THE WITNESSES, UH, TESTIFIED, THERE WAS A CHARETTE HELD A FEW WEEKS AGO AT WHICH MANY OF THE WITNESSES WERE PRESENT.
AND AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT TWO HOUR MEETING, UH, AT LEAST WHEN I LEFT THE MEETING, I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE PLAN WAS THAT THE APPLICANT WAS GOING TO GO BACK, WORK WITH HIS ARCHITECT, TAKING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE ATTENDEES AT THE MEETING, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A PRESENTATION TO WHICH THEY COULD REACT.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN ASSURED BY THE APPLICANT AND THAT'S WHY I'VE MADE THE MOTION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIMS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER COX? YES, COMMISSIONER SIMS. I I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A SITE VISIT, TALK TO MANY OF THE HOMEOWNERS.
THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED AND UPSET BECAUSE THIS THING IS DRAGGED ON AND ON AND ON.
AND HERE WE ARE TODAY WITH ANOTHER DELAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOUR, UH, APPLICANT OR NOT YOUR APPLICANT, BUT WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY? BECAUSE HE IS MADE COMMITMENTS
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TO THIS GROUP ON OCTOBER 9TH THAT HE WAS GOING TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY AND REQUEST THAT TOWNHOUSE THREE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, FOR THE ENTIRE FIVE ACRES.AND THEY WALKED AWAY FEELING AS THOUGH THEY HAD SOME ASSURANCE OF WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE? I DO.
COMMISSIONER COX, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION BECAUSE, UM, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT AND UNDERSTAND, I'M, I'M LATER TO THE GAME HERE.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 10 YEARS.
UH, BUT THE, UH, THE TH THREE ZONING WAS BROADLY OPPOSED BY THE NEIGHBORS AT THAT TIME.
AND SO MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION CENTERED IN THE CHARETTE AROUND THE HISTORY THAT HAD GONE ON FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.
UH, THERE WAS THEN DISCUSSION AND A CREATIVE SESSION DOING SOME MAPPING AND DRAWING ON THE SITE, UH, DONE BY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.
AND THEN THE SESSION ENDED WITH EACH OF THE, UH, PARTICIPANTS SAYING WHAT WOULD BE THEIR HARD NO, WHAT WOULD THEY NOT WANT TO SEE ON THE SITE IF THE APPLICANT WENT AWAY AND CAME BACK.
AND SO THAT, WITH THAT GUIDANCE, THE APPLICANT SAID, LET ME GO SHARPEN MY PENCIL, LET MY ARCHITECTS GO TO WORK AND LET US COME BACK TO YOU.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE AN UNDEVELOPED PIECE OF LAND AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WORKS FOR THE CITY, AND MOVES US, MOVES US FORWARD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER FORSYTH? CAN I ASK DR.
BECKHAM IF HE COULD RESPOND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S VIEW ABOUT, UH, THE REMARKS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SIMS JUST MADE, PLEASE, ABOUT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELS? UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIMS. I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE, BUT I HAVE TO WHOLLY DISAGREE AND, UH, MOST OF, UH, MY NEIGHBORS DO AS WELL.
UH, WE'RE GROWING VERY WEARY OF THE APPLICANT, UM, MAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND THEN THOSE, UM, COMMITMENTS, UH, TOTALLY DISAPPEAR WHEN WE'RE NOT IN SESSION.
UM, WE WALKED AWAY, WE WERE SHOWN ONLY ONE SITE PLAN AT THAT CHARETTE, WHICH WAS, UM, THAT CHARETTE WAS AT OUR, UH, PLANNING.
UM, WE WERE SHOWN ONE SITE PLAN.
THERE WAS VERY LITTLE CHARING GOING ON.
IT WAS A SITE SATURATION PLAN OF TH THREE.
AND IT WAS, UM, UH, FRONT LOADED GARAGES, UH, LOTS OF CONCRETE SLABS OF PARKING, UH, BACK TO BACK, NO TRANSITIONS.
IT WAS WHAT WAS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED BY ORDINANCE.
AND IT WAS KIND OF PRESENTED UP AND SAID, HOW YOU LIKE US NOW, BASICALLY.
AND THEY TOLD US, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS, WE COULD EVEN DO 10,000 SQUARE FOOT HOMES ON THE EXISTING PARCELS RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, I HAVE TO JUST DISAGREE WITH THE, THE MESSAGE WE LEFT FROM THAT CHARETTE.
UM, AND, AND EVEN IF, UH, THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE COME AWAY WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, UH, THAT WAS SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
NOT ONE CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE APPLICANT, IT WASN'T.
I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEP.
NOTHING WE DIDN'T FIND OUT TILL LAST NIGHT AT THE 11TH HOUR THAT THIS WAS GONNA BE HELD OVER.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP OR Y YES, I, I, I, I GUESS I WANNA UNDERSTAND, CAN YOU LITTLE, I THINK BOTH OF US NEED TO GET CLOSER TO OUR MICROPHONE TODAY.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT MY VOICE, UH, CARRIED WELL, BUT APPARENTLY NOT.
UM, I, I GUESS I UNDER WANNA UNDERSTAND, AND, AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, UH, BOB OR, OR, OR DR.
BECKHAM ARE FOR STAFF MARTIN, PERHAPS.
UH, BUT HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE, THE CASE HERE IS FOR 2.86 ACRES.
IT'S THE WEST SIDE OF THE, THE, OF, OF THAT PROPERTY, RIGHT? UH, BUT THEN NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS COME BACK AND SAID THAT HE HAS A VISION FOR THE ENTIRE FIVE ACRES.
SO I MEAN, ARE WE WORKING ON UNDER, YOU KNOW, JUST THIS 2.86 ACRES ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY? ARE WE LOOKING AT NOW THE WHOLE FIVE ACRES? UH, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR QUESTION'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, RIGHT NOW, THE APPLICATION IS FOR THE TWO POINT, UH, 2.86 ACRES, THE WEST SIDE.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM, UH, SOME OF THE COMMUNICATIONS I'VE RECEIVED FROM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS THEY DO WISH TO EXPAND THE REQUEST.
UH, I DON'T BELIEVE WE RECEIVED A REQUEST TO AMEND THE APPLICATION YET.
UM, IF THEY FILE A REQUEST TO AMEND THE APPLICATION, WE WOULD NEED TO REVIEW THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS AND GO THROUGH JUST THE GENERAL PROCESS OF AMENDING AN APPLICATION.
UH, AT THAT POINT, I DO BELIEVE WE WOULD NEED TO RE-NOTICE IT, JUST BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN EXPANSION OF THE AREA
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OF REQUEST.SO IT WOULD REQUIRE A RE-NOTICE, UH, WHICH CAN STILL WORK IN TANDEM WITH, UH, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW FOR A HOLD UNTIL JANUARY 15TH, SO LONG AS WE ARE ABLE TO AMEND THE APPLICATION PRIOR TO OUR MAILING DEADLINE FOR THE 15TH.
UH, BUT AGAIN, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE CURRENT APPLICATION AS IT STANDS, THE MATTER ON THE FLOOR, UH, IS FOR A 2.86 ACRE, THE, THE WESTERN SIDE.
SO ANY, ANY ANY ADJUDICATION OR ACTIONS TAKEN ON IT, IT'S TODAY IS JUST ONLY THAT WESTERN PORTION.
AGAIN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THE REQUEST AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT THE, UH, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY HAVE INVOLVED, UH, A VISION FOR A FIVE ACRE PARCEL.
BUT RIGHT NOW THE REQUEST IS 2.86 ACRES CAN, UH, DR.
BECKHAM, SO IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THE, THE DEVELOP THAT, DOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANT, UH, THE DEVELOPER TO COME BACK WITH THE, THE VISION FOR THE WHOLE FIVE ACRES? WELL, YOU GUYS MAY NOT, UM, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S ROUGHLY FIVE CONTIGUOUS ACRES AT THAT SITE, AND HE ONLY HAS A PLAN FOR HALF OF IT.
AND SO IT'S AKIN TO ASKING US, UM, BUT WE'RE INTERESTED IN BUYING A TWO STORY HOUSE, BUT THEY WON'T LET US LOOK AT THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THEY GO, YEAH, BUT YOU WANNA BUY IT, RIGHT? YOU WANNA BUY IT.
YEAH, BUT WE SURE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE SECOND FLOOR, BUT WE'RE, THERE'S NO PLAN GIVEN FOR THAT.
SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO SUPPORT ANYTHING WHEN WE ONLY KNOW HALF A PLAN.
AND, UM, UH, SO WE, WE DO WORRY ABOUT WHAT'S COMING.
UM, BUT, UH, HE STOOD NOT HE, THE APPLICANT, I APOLOGIZE, STOOD AT THIS LECTERN, THIS VERY LECTERN OCTOBER 9TH, AND GAVE TESTIMONY TO THIS COMMISSION THAT THEY WERE GONNA EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES TO THE WHOLE FIVE ACRES.
IT WAS ONLY GONNA BE A ONE GO, ONE BITE OF THE APPLE, AND IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE MULTIFAMILY TWO.
AND THAT'S WHAT REJUVENATED US TO PLAN A CHARETTE.
'CAUSE THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S LIKE STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING PROGRESS.
AT THAT MEETING, THE FIRST THING THAT CAME OUT WAS THE APPLICANT SAID, NO, I REALLY CAN'T COMMIT TO DOING ALL FIVE ACRES AND I REALLY CAN'T COMMIT TO NOT DOING MF TWO.
AT THAT MEETING, THE, THE, THE DEVELOPER SHOW YOU THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WAS IT ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT THAT WAS SUBMITTED? UH, WHEN, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AN MF TWO DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY, IT WAS A DIFFERENT SITE PLAN.
IT, UH, IT WAS WHAT WE CALL A SITE SATURATION PLAN FOR TH THREE.
IT WAS THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM THAT YOU COULD, OH, ACTUALLY THEY SAID THEY COULD ACTUALLY PUT ONE MORE UNIT IN THERE IF THEY WANTED TO, BUT THERE WAS NO, UH, UH, STORM WATER, UH, MITIGATION STRATEGIES REVEALED, WHICH IS A BIG PART OF THIS WHOLE ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S A CREEK ADJACENT PROPOSITION.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, I CALL THE QUESTION.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER COX, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION.
UM, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, YOUR SECOND, UH, VICE CHAIR HERBERT? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT MOTION IS DEBATABLE.
SO WE ARE ON THE MOTION TO HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL, UH, JANUARY 15TH, 2026.
ANY OPPOSED WITH THAT ONE? NO.
COMMISSIONER COX, THE MOTION CARRIES.
[10. 25-3358A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a child or adult care facility, on property zoned R-5(A) Single Family District, on the north line of Mexicana Road, west of Pluto Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Melinda Garcia U/A From: September 18, 2025 and November 6, 2025. Planner: Michael Pepe Council District: 6 Z-25-000072]
NUMBER 10.IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CHILD OR ADULT CARE FACILITY ON PROPERTY ZONE R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF MEXICANA ROAD, WEST OF PLUTO STREET.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER 10? HELLO, MY NAME IS MELINDA GARCIA, 45 63 MEXICANA, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, YOU'RE JUST HERE FOR, FOR QUESTIONS.
OH YEAH, OR IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, TO PROVIDE THEM.
I'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON MY PROJECT, HAVING MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND I WANT
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TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR MY, MY, MY DAYCARE CENTER.MA'AM, DID YOU ALSO WANT TO SPEAK? I'M HERE FOR EMOTIONAL SUPPORT.
I'M HER, I'M HER SISTER LORI BOWERS.
VERY, VERY NICE OF YOU TO COME DOWN.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 10? DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS AT OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 7 2.
I MOVE TO FOLLOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH NO ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
NUMBER ONE, ADD TO THE SUP CONDITIONS, THE FOLLOWING HOURS OF OPERATIONS, 6:30 AM TO 6:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
NUMBER TWO, AMEND THE SITE PLAN TO INCORPORATE THE FOLLOWING.
INCLUDE A LABEL STATING THE FRONT PAVING IS FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF.
ONLY ADD THE FOLLOWING LABEL TO THE POOL.
SHOWN IN THE REAR POOL TO REMAIN COVERED AND NOT IN USE.
DEPICT THE EXISTING SIX FOOT TALL SOLID FENCING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE REAR YARD.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR SECOND.
UM, WE HAD EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY INPUT ON THIS, UM, REQUEST.
UH, THE NEIGHBORS, WHILE ORIGINALLY VERY OPPOSED AND VERY AWARE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THIS KIND OF OPERATION PRESENTS IN A MIDBLOCK LOCATION ON A ONE MILE LONG DEAD END STREET, EVENTUALLY CAME TO THE DECISION THAT THE FAIR THING TO DO WAS TO GIVE THIS OPERATION A CHANCE TO SUCCEED.
THEY'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT DAYCARE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, A NEEDED SERVICE IN THIS AREA AND THEY ARE CONVINCED THAT THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES A VERY GOOD SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
SHE HAS A DAYCARE CENTER IN DISTRICT ONE AT THE MOMENT.
SHE'S PROPOSING TO MOVE IT INTO DISTRICT SIX.
SO I'M PLEASED TO SUPPORT THE APPROVAL OF THE DAYCARE CENTER AND, AND SINCERELY HOPE THAT IT THRIVES AT THAT LOCATION.
AND I'M GLAD THAT THE NEIGHBORS, UM, AND THE APPLICANT WERE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THE NUMEROUS CHALLENGES THAT THIS PRESENTS AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS FAIR.
ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER? UM, I, I, I WANNA SUPPORT THAT I, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER 'CAUSE SHE JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND, AND WANTED TO ASSURE HER THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND THAT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO GET WITH YOUR, THE COMMISSIONER IN YOUR DISTRICT, BUT ALSO HAD A, A CHANCE TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE SITE SHE HAS NOW.
AND IT WAS, UH, EVERYTHING THAT SHE DID SAY WAS, UH, I THINK SHE JUST, SHE WAS EMOTIONAL WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, THIS IS A HARD PROCESS.
SO, BUT SHE DID REACH OUT AND WANTED TO TALK TO DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
BUT, UH, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THIS AND HOPEFULLY IN THE TWO YEARS YOU PROVE YOURSELF AND THEN WHEN YOU COME BACK, UM, IT, IT MIGHT BE LONGER, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND HELP PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND NEEDS WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT COMMUNITIES NEED.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN? I JUST WANTED TO SAY A FEW THINGS.
JUST, UM, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND YOU ON STICKING WITH IT.
I KNOW THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS TO, TO UNDERSTAND AND, UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO DITTO WITH WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER SAID, THE SERVICES THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING AS NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, JUST BY STICKING WITH IT, YOU ARE OVER THE GOAL LINE.
I HOPE YOU FEEL A LOT BETTER ABOUT IT AND WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN HERE IN ANOTHER TWO YEARS.
VICE CHAIR HERBERT? YEAH, I'LL BE QUICK.
I'M SUPPORTING THE MOTION, BUT I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT WE NEED, UM, OUR PLANNERS ARE GREAT.
OUR PLANNERS DO A GREAT JOB, BUT THEIR JOB IS THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
WE NEED A CITY ARCHITECT TO TAKE CARE OF SMALLER PEOPLE LIKE THIS WHEN THEY COME INTO OUR CITY AND WALK THROUGH THIS PROCESS FROM A HUMAN PERSPECTIVE.
UM, SO I'LL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT WITH MY COUNCIL MEMBER, WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
UM, BUT WE NEED A CITY ARCHITECT THAT IS SEPARATE AND INDIFFERENT FROM THE CITY THAT CAN HELP OUR CITIZENS LIKE THIS, UM, DO MORE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FASTER WAY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? SEEING NONE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, SECONDED BY,
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UM, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN TO FOLLOW STATUS, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN CONDITIONS FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITH NO AUTO RENEWALS AND A FEW CHANGES TO THE CONDITIONS AND SITE PLANS.[11. 25-3359A An application for 1) Medium Commercial / Office Subdistrict and 2) a new Specific Use Permit for a car wash, on property zoned Light Commercial/Office Area 1 Subdistrict within Planned Development District 631, the West Davis Special Purpose District, on the northwest corner of Tatum Ave. and W. Davis St. Staff Recommendation: Denial of 1) Medium Commercial / Office Subdistrict and denial of 2) a new Specific Use Permit for a car wash, on property zoned Light Commercial/Office Area 1 Subdistrict. Applicant: Sameer Mohammed, Nanu Construction Inc Planner: Michael V. Pepe Council District: 6 Z-25-000134]
11 IS Z 2 500 0 1 34.IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ONE MEDIUM COMMERCIAL OFFICE, SUBDISTRICT AND TWO, A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH ON PROPERTY ZONED LIGHT COMMERCIAL OFFICE AREA ONE SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PD 6 31, THE WEST DAVIS SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF TATUM AVENUE BETWEEN I AND WEST DAVIS STREET.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL OF ONE, THE MEDIUM COMMERCIAL OFFICE.
SUBDISTRICT AND DENIAL OF TWO.
THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH ON PROPERTY ZONE, LIGHT COMMERCIAL OFFICE AREA, SUB ONE SUBDISTRICT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON CASE NUMBER 11? I I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMAN UP AT THE TOP WAS HE'S BEEN, WAIT, HE APPROACHED ME EARLIER.
SAID HE WANTED TO SPEAK ON, SIR, ARE YOU HERE ON 11? MM-HMM
I WAS JUST GONNA SUPPORT WHAT YOU DO.
ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON 11? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 1 3 4.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND PUT THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL DECEMBER THE FOURTH.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? UH, JUST THAT WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, PLANNED AND WE SHOULD HAVE THIS WRAPPED UP BY DECEMBER 4TH.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM? SEEING DONE? WE HAVE A MOTION TO HOLD UNTIL DECEMBER 4TH.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER 10 MINUTE BREAK.
COMMISSIONERS, ARE YOU, Y'ALL READY TO GET BACK? UM,
[SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent Items]
WE ARE GOING TO JUMP OUT OF ORDER REAL QUICK, UM, AND TAKE CARE OF THE SUBDIVISION DOCKET.GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS TODAY.
TODAY'S CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF SIX ITEMS. ITEM 14, ITEM 15, ITEM 16, ITEM 17, ITEM 18, ITEM 19.
ALL CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR HEARING AT THIS TIME.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON PLATS OR, I'M SORRY, OUR ITEMS 14 THROUGH 19 AND THEN I SEE THAT WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ONLINE THAT LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE APPLICANTS OR REPRESENTATIVES.
DO ANY OF THEM WANT TO SPEAK? OKAY, CASEY MCBROOM, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 15, THE PLAT? UM, IT IS ON A CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE APPROVED OF IN A SINGLE MOTION ALONG WITH OTHER ITEMS OR WE'RE HAPPY TO JUST, JUST HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, CAN I GET A MOTION ON THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET? UH, YES, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS 14 THROUGH 19.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO, TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR MOTION.
I, SORRY, I NEED TO GET CLOSER.
VICE CHAIR HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
[20. 25-3367A An application to replat a 0.993-acre (43,223-square foot) tract of land containing all of Lots 8R in City Block 1/7144 to create one 0.164-acre (7,132-square foot) lot and one 0.829-acre (36,091-square foot) lot on property located on Mcbroom Street, east of Furey Street. Applicant/Owner: KCT Holdings LLC, Tabernacle Baptist Church Surveyor: Peiser & Mankin Surveying, LLC Application Filed: October 22, 2025 Zoning: R-5(A) Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to compliance with the conditions listed in the docket. Planner: Hema Sharma Council District: 6 PLAT-25-000128]
PLAT TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 1 28.AN APPLICATION TO REPLANT A 0.993 ACRE.
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IS 43,223 SQUARE FOOT TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS.EIGHT R IN CITY BLOCK ONE OVER 7 1 4 4 TO CREATE ONE 0.164 ACRE.
THAT IS 7,132 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND ONE 0.829 ACRE.
THAT IS 36,000 0 9 1 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON MACROOM STREET EAST OF FURY STREET.
36 NOTICES WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON OCTOBER 30TH, 2025.
WE HAVE RECEIVED YOUR REPLY IN FAVOR AND YOUR REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 20? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN THE MATTER OF PLAT DASH 25 DASH 0 0 1 28.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
[21. 25-3368A An application to replat a 0.521-acre (22,688.66-square foot) tract of land containing all of Lots 32, 33 and 34 in City Block 3/8213 to create one 0.251-acre (10,916-square foot) lot and one 0.27-acre (11,772.7-square foot) lot on property located on Elk Stone Drive, north of Keller Springs Road. Applicant/Owner: Bob Thompson Homes, L.P.; Laga LTD Surveyor: CBG Surveying Texas, LLC Application Filed: October 27, 2025 Zoning: PD 561 (Tract 2) Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to compliance with the conditions listed in the docket. Planner: Hema Sharma Council District: 12 PLAT-25-000133]
ITEM 21 PLOT TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 1 3 3.AN APPLICATION TOLAT A 0.521 ACRE.
LOT TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOTS.
32, 33 AND 34 IN CITY BLOCK THREE OVER 8 2 1 3 TO CREATE ONE 0.251 ACRE.
THAT IS 10,916 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND ONE 0.27 ACRE.
THAT IS 11772.7 SQUARE FOOT LOT ON SCORE ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON ELK STONE DRIVE NORTH OF LER SPRINGS ROAD.
NOTICES WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON OCTOBER 30TH, 2025.
WE HAVE RECEIVED FIVE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES AND DUE REPLY IN PO OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL, COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUBMISSIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET ARE AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 21? COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? SURE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M GONNA SPEAK HERE CLEARLY IN THE MATTER OF, UH, PLAT NUMBER TWO FIVE DASH 0 0 0 1 3 3.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS PLAN SUBJECT TO THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
[12. 25-3376A Reconsideration of action taken on October 24, 2024, on the following item: Consideration of amending Chapters 51 and 51A of the Dallas Development Code, Section 51-4.208, “Recreation and Entertainment Uses,” Section 51A-4.208 “Recreation Uses,” and related sections with consideration to be given to defining a use, “private game club,” and establishing appropriate zoning districts and development standards associated with the use.]
WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 12.AND COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HAS A CONFLICT ON ITEMS NUMBER 12 AND 13.
SO SHE'S STEPPING OUT OF THE ROOM RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN WE HAVE MS. MORRISON SINCE, UH, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TECHNICAL AND PROCEDURAL IN NATURE.
SHE CAN GIVE US A EXPLANATION OF THE VARIOUS PROCEDURAL, UM, MANEUVERS THAT WE NEED TO DO HERE.
UM, SINCE WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS AND BECAUSE WE DON'T DO A RECONSIDERATION VERY OFTEN, I THOUGHT I WOULD COME AND ASSIST THE CHAIR IN WALKING THE COMMISSION THROUGH, UH, WHAT THE PROCEDURE'S GONNA BE FOR ITEMS 12 AND 13.
UH, SO THE FIRST MOTION THAT THE CHAIR IS GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR IS A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
AND THAT'S A PROCEDURAL ITEM WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH IN ORDER TO PROCEED TO THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER REQUIRES THAT A MOTION TO BE RE UH, A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BE HEARD EITHER AT THE SAME MEETING AS THE ITEM WAS HEARD OR AT THE VERY NEXT MEETING.
AND SO THIS GETS US TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE ON THE, ON A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
SO A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES MAY BE MADE BY ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION.
UM, IT MAY BE SECONDED BY ANYONE.
UM, IT'S NOT DEBATABLE, IT'S NOT AMENDABLE AND IT CAN ONLY PASS WITH A TWO THIRDS VOTE.
UM, SO THAT IS CAN I ASK A QUESTION, MR. MORRISON? CAN I ASK ONE QUICK TECHNICAL QUESTION? WOULD WE RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER WE MOVE TO, IF WE WERE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT WOULD COME ON THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER? IS THAT CORRECT? PUBLIC COMMENT WILL ONLY COME ON ITEM 13.
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OKAY.IF A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES IS APPROVED AND A MOTION TO RECONSIDER IS APPROVED.
SO THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT 'CAUSE THOSE, UH, THE MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER, THOSE ARE NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
MR, FOR I DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. MORRISON? COULD MS. MORRISON, UH, PROVIDE A A A REMINDER TO THE COMMISSION OF THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2024, PLEASE? OH, SURE.
FOR ITEM 13, UM, IT SAYS, RECONSIDERATION OF ACTION TAKEN ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2024.
AND, AND, AND, AND YOU'LL FORGIVE ME, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THAT FAR BACK.
YES, THAT REFERS TO ITEM 13, WHICH IS, UM, AMENDING CHAPTERS 51 AND 51 A OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, TO ADD, UM, THE PRIVATE GAME CLUB USE AS A LAND USE, UH, TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO, SO ARE YOU SAYING THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN A YEAR AGO, UH, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, WAS TO HOLD THE ITEM UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL PROCEEDINGS AT THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT ARE WRAPPED? THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN OCTOBER OF 2024.
AND, AND THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT PROCEEDINGS HAVE BEEN HELD.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE SUBSTANCE OF ITEM 13.
AND JUST FOR EVERYONE'S REFERENCE, I BELIEVE EXCERPTS OF MEETING MINUTES FOR ALL OF THE MEETINGS WHERE WE'VE TAKEN THIS UP IN THE PAST ARE IN THE DOCKET.
IF, IF ANYONE NEEDS TO GO BACK AND, AND LOOK AT THEM, I THINK THERE ARE MULTIPLE MEETINGS MINUTES.
MR. CHAIRMAN APPOINTED OF PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, UH, MS. MORRISON, WHAT WOULD BE THE EFFECT OF THE MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES? FAILING THEN THE STATUS QUO IS KEPT.
WE WON'T ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECONSIDER SO WE WON'T HEAR ITEMS 12 OR 13.
DOES ANYONE MAKE, WANNA MAKE, OH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, CAN I ASK WHY IS THIS ITEM BEFORE US NOW? UH, WE WERE ASKED TO PUT PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WHY, WHY? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE TIMING IS NOW.
THIS HAS BEEN ON HOLD OR BEING, IT'S BEEN TABLED FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MAKE IT NEED TO COME TO THE FOREFRONT NOW? RIGHT.
IT WAS JUST REQUESTED THAT THIS BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
CAN WE REQUEST AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT THIS? AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IS NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE'S NO CONFIDENTIAL, UM, ADVICE THAT I NEED TO GIVE THE COMMISSION ON IT.
IF I COULD FOLLOW UP THOUGH, THE CASE REPORT INDICATES THAT THERE ARE TWO, UH, CASES THAT ARE IN COURTS OF LAW TODAY REGARDING THIS ISSUE.
I MEAN, IS IT PRUDENT FOR US TO BE DEBATING THIS WHILE THESE CASES, COMMISSIONER FORSYTH? I THINK THAT IS GETTING INTO POTENTIAL MERITS, UM, OF, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S JUST FRANKLY A WE'RE STARTING TO GET INTO DEBATE.
I'LL RECOGNIZE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES OF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT SO MOVED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR SECOND.
UM, IT IS NOT DEBATABLE, NOT AMENDABLE.
SO WE WILL GO STRAIGHT TO A VOTE, WHICH REQUIRES A TWO THIRDS VOTE TO PASS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MR. CHAIR? PARDON ME? COULD YOU TELL US AGAIN WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON MS. MORRISON? IT'S A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE SO THAT WE MAY PROCEED TO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
UM, AND THE REASON WE NEED TO SUSPEND THE RULES IS BECAUSE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER SAYS YOU CAN ONLY RECONSIDER AN ITEM AT THE SAME MEETING WHERE THE ITEM WAS TAKEN UP OR AT THE VERY NEXT FOLLOWING MEETING.
AND SO BECAUSE THAT HAPPENED OVER A YEAR AGO, WE NEED TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO ALLOW FOR A RECONSIDERATION.
THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT? SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HALL.
AND THIS IS TO SUSPEND THE RULES SO WE CAN GET TO A POTENTIAL MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION.
CAN I ASK FOR A ROLL CALL? YES.
MS. LOPEZ, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
DOES THIS BEEN THE RULES? YAY.
DISTRICT FIVE, NO DISTRICT SIX? NO DISTRICT SEVEN IN NO MEANS WE'RE
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NOT RECONSIDERING ARE.THE ES MEANS NO MEANS THAT WE ARE NOT SUSPENDING THE RULES.
DISTRICT 14 DI CONFLICT DISTRICT 15? YES.
THE MOTION FAILS, SO WE CANNOT PROCEED TO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND I BELIEVE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PROCEED TO ITEM 13 EITHER.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT, MR. CHAIR.
[22. 25-3369A Amend the Dallas Plan Commission Rules of Procedure pertaining to: (1) in-person attendance at regular meeting of the plan commission in Section 9; and (2) plan commission committees in Section 13.]
BELIEVE THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 22, OUR AMENDED RULES OF PROCEDUREAND JUST FOR THE RECORD NOTE THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HAS REJOINED US.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 22 IS, UH, TWO FIVE DASH 3 3 6 9 A.
AMEND THE DALLAS PLAN COMMISSION RULES OF PROCEDURE PERTAINING TO NUMBER ONE IN PERSON ATTENDANCE AT REGULAR MEETINGS OF THE PLAN, COMMISSION AND SECTION NINE AND NUMBER TWO, PLAN COMMISSION COMMITTEES IN SECTION 13.
AND MS. WEER, IT MIGHT HELP FOR YOU TO RUN THROUGH WHAT THE RULES COMMITTEE DID SINCE WE DID HAVE OUR MEETING OVER LUNCH.
OR I MIGHT ASK, UH, IF LAURA MORRISON WOULD KINDLY DO THAT.
UH, EARLIER TODAY, UH, THE PLAN COMMISSION'S RULES COMMITTEE CONVENED TO, UH, DELIBERATE AND VOTE ON SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE PLAN COMMISSION'S RULES OF PROCEDURE.
UH, THE, THE FIRST ITEM THAT THE COMMITTEE CONSIDERED WAS TO ADD A STATEMENT TO THE RULES THAT SAYS, UH, MEMBERS SHALL ATTEND ALL REGULAR MEETINGS IN PERSON AT THE LOCATION DESIGNATED ON THE POSTED AGENDA UNLESS THE CHAIR APPROVES VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
THE RULES COMMITTEE VOTED TO NOT INCLUDE THAT, UM, AS AN AMENDMENT AT THIS TIME.
SO THAT HAS COME OUT OF THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM THEY CONSIDERED WAS A STATEMENT, UM, TO BE ADDED TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE UNDER THE RULES FOR COMMITTEES.
UH, THAT SAYS IT IS THE GOAL OF CITY PLAN COMMISSION TO INCLUDE GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE REPRESENTATION ON STANDING COMMITTEES FROM A BROAD VARIETY OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY WHILE AVOIDING OVERREPRESENTATION OF ANY DISTRICTS ON ANY ONE COMMITTEE.
AND THE RULES COMMITTEE, UH, VOTED TO RECOMMEND, UH, TO APPROVE THAT PROVISION.
AND THEN THE FINAL ITEM THAT THE COMMITTEE TOOK UP WAS, UM, JUST SOME CHANGES TO A COUPLE OF YOUR STANDING COMMITTEES.
UH, THE FIRST ONE BEING THE COMPREHENSIVE, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE,
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UM, COMMITTEE.UH, THE PROPOSAL IS TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THAT COMMITTEE TO THE PLANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER AMENDMENT THERE IS TO, UM, CHANGE THE WORDING TO, UH, THE COMMITTEE SHALL PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND GUIDANCE FOR UPDATING THE CITYWIDE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN AND FOR DEVELOPING AND UPDATING AREA-BASED LAND USE PLANS TO FACILITATE THEIR PASSAGE AND IMPLEMENTATION AND TO MONITOR THEIR PROGRESS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE FUTURE LAND USE GOALS THAT PROMOTE ECONOMIC VITALITY, ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY AND EQUITY THROUGHOUT DALLAS.
UM, AND THEN TO DESIGNATE THAT AS A NINE MEMBER COMMITTEE WITH AT LEAST, UM, THREE MEMBERS OF THE PLAN COMMISSION BEING ON IT.
AND THEN TO GO AHEAD AND DELETE, UM, ALL OF THE SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS FOR THAT COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THEN TO DELETE SOME OF THE OTHER WORDING IN THAT COMMITTEE.
ALL OF THAT WAS, UM, BEFORE THE RULES COMMITTEE.
AND THE RULES COMMITTEE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES, UM, TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM ON, ON THAT, EXCEPT TO, UM, MAKE IT A NINE MEMBER COMMITTEE WITH, UM, THREE MEMBERS OF PLAN COMMISSION, UM, ON IT.
AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, THE FINAL, THE FINAL AMENDMENT IS ABOUT THE ZONING ORDINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND THAT WAS TO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE BE COM COMPOSED OF AT LEAST 11, UH, CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS, INCLUDING AT LEAST, UH, THREE MEMBERS OF THE PLAN COMMISSION.
DO WE WANNA GO AHEAD AND GO TO A MOTION? COMMISSIONER SIMS. UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
I MOVE TO, UH, APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO THE RULES AS PROPOSED BY THE RULES COMMITTEE AT ITS MEETING OF NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025.
COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? YES, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, WHILE I SUPPORT ALMOST ALL OF IT, I, I THINK THAT THE NEW PAC COMMITTEE AND ZAC SHOULD ALSO REQUIRE AT LEAST TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AND AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE IN THE SUBJECT MATTERS THAT THOSE COMMITTEES FREQUENTLY, UM, TAKE UP.
AND WHILE I THINK CHAIR RUBIN HAS THE GOAL OF DOING THAT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THESE RULES CLEARLY EXPRESS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME DIVERSITY IN THESE COMMITTEES.
BECAUSE IF THE COMMITTEES AREN'T BALANCED AND DIVERSE, THIS BODY AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE DOESN'T RESPECT THEM AND DON'T RESPECT THEIR WORK.
AND WE END UP DOING FAR MORE OF THE WORK.
AND SO I MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SIMS TO REQUIRE FOR BOTH THE PAC COMMITTEE AND ZO OAC THAT TWO OF THE MEMBERS BE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AT LARGE, AND TWO OF THE MEMBERS BE INDIVIDUALS WITH EXPERTISE IN THE AREAS IN WHICH THOSE COMMITTEES FREQUENTLY, UH, TAKE UP MATTERS.
ANY, UH, MS. MORRISON? SO WITH THE PLANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE BEING A COMMITTEE OF NINE, YOU WOULD HAVE THREE MEMBERS OF PLAN COMMISSION TWO THAT MEET THE SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS, AND THEN TWO AT LARGE WOULD, WOULDN'T THE BA JUST THE BALANCE BE AT LARGE? OKAY.
OR YOU COULD DO THREE AND THREE AND THREE.
I'M NOT, SO AT LEAST TWO MEETING THE SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS AND THEN THE BALANCE COULD BE AT LARGE.
AND THEN SAME FOR ZAC, NOW WE HAVE SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS LISTED FOR THE PLANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SO IS YOUR MOTION TO BRING THOSE SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS BACK AND HAVE AT LEAST TWO MEMBERS MEET ONE OF THOSE? OH, I, I, MY INTENTION IS THAT THE CHAIR DETERMINES WHAT EXPERTISE NEEDS TO BE ON THERE AND JUST HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO MEET.
IT COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S LISTED, BUT TO GIVE THE CHAIR A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THAT.
I DO HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ZAC, IF THERE WERE TO BE A, I DON'T KNOW, A LAND USE LAWYER OUT THERE WHO WOULD BE GREAT AT WRITING CODE, THAT WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO MIGHT HAVE THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE OR AN ARCHITECT OR ENGINEER THAT, THAT SORT OF THING? YES.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE THINK? OKAY,
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MR. CHAIR, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.GUESS IT'S REALLY FOR MS. MORRISON, BUT IF WE SPECIFY MEMBERS FROM THE PLAN COMMISSION AND WE SPECIFY MEMBERS WITH TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, WHAT IS A MEMBER AT LARGE? I MEAN, AREN'T WE ALL AT LARGE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY? UH, WHAT DO YOU EVEN NEED TO SAY THAT IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE ANY RESIDENT OF DALLAS THAT'S NOT A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION AND MAY HAVE, MAY BE AN, HAVE THAT EXPERTISE, BUT ALSO JUST MAY NOT.
I, I'LL LET YOU WORD THAT, BUT I LIKE WHERE YOU WERE GOING BETTER THAN AT LARGE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE KINGSTON AMENDMENT? UM, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THE, THE BASIS OF HER, UM, MOTION, BUT CONSIDERING THAT IT, A SUGGESTION WAS MADE AT THE RULES COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE A SUBSEQUENT MEETING DISCUSSING SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES NEEDED, ESPECIALLY IN, UH, REGARD TO COMMITTEE ATTENDANCE.
UM, I'M THINKING RATHER THAN TRY TO WORDSMITH THIS HERE, THAT THIS AMENDMENT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE BETTER THRESHED OUT AT A FUTURE RULES COMMITTEE MEETING.
COULD I, I'LL GIVE MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS.
AS CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET THE COMMITTEES APPOINTED.
I EXPECT TO HAVE MOST OF THEM, IF NOT ALL OF THEM, APPOINTED AT OUR DECEMBER 4TH OR FINAL MEETING OF THE YEAR.
UM, AND I THINK GOING UP IN SIZE ON ZAC AND GOING DOWN IN SIZE ON ON CLUB IS IMPORTANT TO ME IN, IN MAKING SURE I GET THOSE NUMBERS FLESHED OUT AND, AND LAND THE PLANE AT THE RIGHT TIME.
SO I'M HAPPY TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL FUTURE CHANGES TO IT.
BUT I WOULD ASK THAT WE ADOPT THESE CHANGES TODAY, AT LEAST AS TO THE NUMBERS.
OH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT BEING ADOPTED.
THE WAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, UH, THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS MADE.
I WAS, IF WE'RE GONNA DO SUBSEQUENT REFINEMENTS, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WORTHY OF MORE CONSIDERATION THAN WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WORDSMITHING HERE, THE NUMBERS WOULD BE THE SAME.
UM, BUT I, I'LL DEFER TO COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
UH, I'M FINE WITH PASSING IT TODAY.
AND YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S ON THE RULES COMMITTEE.
SO IF SHE SEES THAT WHATEVER WE PASS TODAY NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED, I FEEL CONFIDENT IN HER ABILITY TO RAISE THAT.
THAT SAID, CAN YOU RE, UM, PHRASE, UH, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION? DID WE, COULD WE DROPPED THE AT LARGE PART? CORRECT.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER OF CPC, THEN YOU'RE A, A MEMBER OF JUST THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
SO THAT SEEMS REDUNDANT TO SPECIFY THAT YOU NEED AT LARGE PEOPLE.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE PART, BUT YOU'RE EITHER ON CPC OR YOU'RE ELIGIBLE AS A, A MEMBER OF THE LARGER COMMUNITY.
YEAH, I MEAN, MY GOAL IS TO GET SOME DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PHRASE IT, BUT, UM, MY GOAL IS TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, SOME TECHNICAL EXPERIENCE CPC MEMBERS, AND THEN THERE MAY BE SOME POSITIONS THAT ARE JUST UP IN THE AIR.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING TO, TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND DO YOU HAVE SOME LANGUAGE? THE WAY I ANTICIPATE WRITING IT IS THAT IT'LL BE, I THINK AT LEAST, WHAT IS IT, TWO, NO, THREE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
AND THEN THE REST ARE JUST RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.
AND AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE RESIDENTS SHOULD POSSESS QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERTISE OF THAT COMMITTEE.
AND THEN IT'S SILENT JUST AS TO ANYONE ELSE.
'CAUSE ANYONE ELSE WOULD JUST BE A RESIDENT OF DALLAS AND THEY COULD HAVE SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS OR, OR JUST BE ACTIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
UM, I, I REALLY THINK THAT TRYING TO QUALIFY OR QUANTIFY, UH, THE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE, THAT SOME PEOPLE WANT TO BE ON THESE COMMISSIONS OR COMMITTEES, I SHOULD SAY GETS A LITTLE TOO COMPLICATED.
'CAUSE IT'S STILL IN THE, UH, OPINION OF THE CHAIR AS TO WHETHER THEY'RE IN EXPERTISE OR NOT.
AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE OVERLY QUALIFIED WITH THAT.
AND I'D LIKE TO LET THE CHAIR, HE'S HEARD THE DISCUSSION AND HE'S HEARD THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT ON THERE, AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE KINGSTON AMENDMENT? COMMISSIONER WHEELER? SO TO MAKE, WE'RE SAYING WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT NOT ONE REPRESENTATION FROM ONE PART OF DALLAS IS IN THERE.
SO WOULD THAT MEAN THAT IF, IF THE PERSON FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC GONNA SERVE AND
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THE PERSON THAT'S, UH, THE EXPERT, UM, THEY, WE COULDN'T HAVE TWO FROM THE SAME DISTRICT.I, YOU KNOW WHAT, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE IT'S GETTING INTO THE WEEDS.
AND WE'RE, THIS IS BE A 10 HOUR CONVERSATION.
I THINK MY ONLY COMMENT WAS GOING TO BE THAT CLUB INCLUDED WITHIN ITS EXPERTISE, IF YOU WILL, OR QUALIFICATIONS, UM, A MEMBER WHO HAD KNOWLEDGE BASED ON NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION AND REVITALIZATION.
SINCE THE COMMITTEE IS NOW BEING CHARGED TO LOOK AT OUR AREA PLANS, WHICH GENERALLY COME OUT OF MULTI-YEAR RESIDENT, UM, PROCESSES.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT CAPTURES THE SPIRIT OF WHAT I THINK I HEARD IN COMMISSIONER KINGSTON'S ORIGINAL MOTION.
AND I DO THINK THAT THAT IS PORT IMPORTANT TO BE CONSIDERED, IF THAT IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE NEW, UM, CHARGE FOR THIS COMMITTEE AS IT LOOKS AHEAD TO THE FUTURE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT WE, IT'S LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE RULES TODAY THAT I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT OBSERVATION.
UH, I THINK IT WAS JUST A COMMENT.
UM, ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS ON THE KINGSTON AMENDMENT? I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT COMMISSIONER HAMPTON'S SUGGESTION.
ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE, THAT LANGUAGE NOT BE STRUCK IN THE MEMBERSHIP UNDER WHAT'S CLUB NOW? WELL, AND I THINK WHAT I HEARD IN COMMISSIONER KINGSTON'S AMENDMENT WAS THE, UM, CONCEPT OF WHAT I WOULD CHARACTERIZE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION REVITALIZATION, AND THEN, UM, OTHER EXPERTISE.
SO IT WOULD BE ITEM C AND H THAT ARE UNDER THE CURRENT CLUB.
AND SINCE THAT'S LANGUAGE WE ALREADY HAVE THAT THOSE MIGHT SERVE THE PURPOSE OF KEEPING THOSE IN FOR THE ADDITIONAL MEMBERS.
AND THEN THE OTHER BALANCE THAT'S LEFT IN THE TWO COMMITTEES, UM, AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR IS THAT, DID I FOLLOW YOUR, UM, SUGGESTED AMENDMENT? COMMISSIONER KINGSTON? IF THAT'S A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO MY AMENDMENT, I'M FINE WITH IT.
I'M, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT AS A, AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
SO I THINK FOR EXAMPLE, WITH PAC, WE HAVE NINE MEMBERS.
THREE WOULD BE CPC MEMBERS, TWO WOULD BE PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE IN IZATION NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OR REVITALIZATION.
TWO WOULD BE OTHER EXPERTS, AND THE REMAINING WOULD BE AT LARGE.
THAT'S FOR BOTH CLO, I MEAN, PAC AND ZAC.
I'M, I ALSO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXACTLY NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION AND REVITALIZATION EXACTLY MEANS.
I KNOW IT WAS IN THERE BEFORE.
THE 17 PEOPLE WHO SERVED ON CLUB, AND I MEAN, TO ME IT, IT SUGGESTS SOMEBODY WHO'S A COMMUNITY LEADER OR ACTIVIST OR SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN INVOLVED AT A COMMUNITY LEVEL WITH AREA PLANS.
YEAH, AREA PLANS, GENTRIFICATION ISSUES, MAYBE THEY'VE STARTED AN NSO IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE I THINK WOULD FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY.
HOW IS THAT NOT PICKED UP AS A, AS A AT LARGE? WELL, IT COULD BE, BUT THIS WOULD SET THE EXPECTATION THAT SOMEBODY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THESE COMMITTEES, MIDS.
AND I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT PAINTS WITH, TO NARROW A BRUSH TO BROUGHT A BRUSH.
I MEAN, I ASSUME THERE ARE PEOPLE VERY DEDICATED TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS WHO WOULD BE GOOD MEMBERS WHO, WHOSE FOCUS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ON THINGS THAT ARE STABILIZATION REVITALIZATION OR, OR SOMETHING ELSE.
SO HE WAS TRYING TO HELP BRING SOME CLARITY TO THE DISCUSSION.
IF IT'S MAKING IT MORE COMPLEX, I'M HAPPY TO NOT HAVE THAT MOVE FORWARD.
BUT THAT WAS, I THINK COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, AND I APOLOGIZE MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SPEAKING WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED.
BUT, UM, THAT, THAT WAS REALLY THE INTENT WAS TO JUST TO GIVE SOME SENSE OF LANGUAGE WE ALREADY HAD PRESUMABLY HAD BEEN IMPLEMENTED.
BUT YOU, IF YOU AS THE CHAIR AND YOU CHAIRED CLUB, IF YOU'RE NOT CLEAR WHAT IT MEANS, THEN IT'S PROBABLY NOT CLEAR LANGUAGE.
I DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE ON, ON THESE COMMITTEES WITH DEDICATED TO, TO NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES.
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NO DOUBT TO, YOU KNOW, GET AN APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, CROSS, CROSS.WHAT IF WE JUST SAID NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE? SURE.
THAT, THAT, I THINK THAT WORKS.
SO TWO WOULD HAVE TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATION, REPRESENTATION, AND TWO WOULD HAVE TO BE OTHER AREAS OF EXPERTISE WITH THE REMAINING AT LARGE.
WE HAVE THE KINGSTON AMENDMENT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT? COMMISSIONER COX, IF YOU COULD, AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION HERE AND POTENTIAL CHANGES.
COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS AGAIN? I'M GONNA KICK THAT OVER TO COMMISSIONER KINGSTON BECAUSE IT'S HER AMENDMENT.
UM, AMENDING WHAT THE RULES COMMITTEE PASSED TODAY TO SAY THAT BOTH THE PLANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ZAC WOULD HAVE AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS OF THE PLAN COMMISSION, AT LEAST TWO, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATES AND AT LEAST TWO PERSONS WITH KNOWLEDGE OR EXPERTISE IN THE SUBJECT MATTER.
THAT IS COMMONLY BEFORE THOSE TWO RESPECTIVE BOARDS.
SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF SEVEN WITH THE REMAINDER AT LARGE.
SO AT AND A TOTAL, HOW MANY AT LARGE, HOW, HOW IT WOULD EITHER BE NINE FOR PACK OR 11 FOR ZAC.
IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE KINGSTON AMENDMENT? COMMISSIONER HALL? I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT COMMISSIONER KINGSTON IS SAYING, BUT ON ZAC WE COVERED MAYBE A DOZEN DIFFERENT TOPICS AND THOSE, I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP.
I THINK SO HOW, HOW DO YOU GET A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT FOR EACH TOPIC? WELL, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT.
I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE WANT A 25 MEMBER ZAC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND TO GET SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE ON EVERY TOPIC WE'VE, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE GOTTA CUT IT OFF SOMEWHERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND SORT OF THAT, THE BALANCE.
UM, YEAH, SO THE RULES SAY THAT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF ZAC ARE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVING TO DO WITH ZONING REGULATIONS, LANDSCAPE AND TREE PRESERVATION REGULATIONS, GAS DRILLING AND PRODUCTION REGULATIONS, FORM DISTRICTS, ALL OF THOSE.
SO THOSE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE, THE BROAD TOPICS I THINK THAT THE CHAIR WOULD BE LOOKING AT WHEN APPOINTING THOSE MEMBERS.
IT WOULDN'T BE YEAH, CODE AMENDMENT BY CODE AMENDMENT, IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH ZONING REGULATIONS, LANDSCAPE AND TREE PRESERVATION REGULATIONS? JUST THE BROADER, THE BROADER ISSUES THAT ZAC LOOKS AT? I I HAVE A QUESTION, COMMISSIONER SARA.
IT WHAT IF YOU AREN'T ABLE TO FIND EXPERTS OR LIKE WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO FILL LIKE ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT REQUIRE, LIKE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE COMMITTEE? LIKE, ARE THEY UNABLE TO MEET? ARE THEY, LIKE, IT SEEMED, IS THIS REASONABLE TO ASK FOR
FOR EACH OF THESE TWO COMMITTEES, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD ONLY BE TWO MEMBERS OF EACH COMMITTEE EACH, AND THEN THE REST WOULDN'T HAVE TO FULFILL ANY KIND OF SPECIAL QUALIFICATION AND IT WOULDN'T APPLY TO PLAN COMMISSIONERS.
AND, AND WHO DETERMINES IF THE PEOPLE HAVE MET THE SPECIAL QUALIFICATIONS OR THE CHAIR WOULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AND THE CHAIR READS IN HIS A, A APPOINTMENTS ON THE RECORD AT AT PLAN COMMISSION AND THEN THOSE ARE, THOSE APPOINTMENTS ARE DEEMED ADOPTED UNLESS SOMEONE ON PLAN COMMISSION CHALLENGES, UM, ONE OF THOSE APPOINTMENTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND WE'RE JUST ON THE KINKS AND AMENDMENT.
IS THAT A HAND OR YOU'RE JUST SCRATCHING? NO,
UH, WE HAVE THE KINKS AND AMENDMENT TO, UM, ADDRESS THE QUALIFICATIONS OF CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE PAC IN OAC.
WE'RE BACK ON THE MAIN MOTION TO APPROVE OUR RULE CHANGES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
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WE'RE WE'RE READY WHENEVER YOU ARE CHAIR.WELL, WE'VE GIVEN THE BRIEFING, SO WE'RE MAINLY, WE'RE READY FOR QUESTIONS AT THIS, RIGHT? I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD MEETING COMMISSIONER KINGSTON ANYTHING INTO THE RECORD.
UM, ONE, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THIS IS LAST YEAR, YOU WANNA DO THE REPORT IN THIS FORMAT, BUT IS THERE A REASON WE DIDN'T GET IT UNTIL YESTERDAY? THE REPORT ITSELF? THE REPORT.
THE REPORT ITSELF, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THE BRIEFING MATERIALS THAT YOU HAD.
SO ALL THE YEAR BY YEAR COMPARISON STUFF.
I MEAN, YOU, IT FLASHED ON THE SCREEN, BUT IT'S NOT BEEN SENT TO US.
THIS IS, YEAH, THIS IS ONLINE NOW.
THE, UH, THE BRIEFING POWERPOINT IS, IS ONLINE NOW.
UM, BUT THE, THE REPORT WE CIRCULATED YESTERDAY, I, WE DID POST IT LAST NIGHT, BUT WE DIDN'T CIRCULATE ANYTHING MORE THAN THE REPORT YESTERDAY.
BUT THIS IS ONLINE NOW, SO THAT'S, THAT'S AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME.
WELL, DON'T YOU THINK IT WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL IF WE'D CIRCULATED THE BRIEFING WITH THE REPORT SINCE HALF OF WHAT YOU GUYS WENT OVER WAS IN THE BRIEFING AND NOT IN THE REPORT? WELL, IT'S, IT CAN BE.
IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S AVAILABLE NOW.
UM, FURTHER IN TERMS OF, WE HAVE QUESTIONS WE CAN PRO PROVIDE FURTHER QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH IN TERMS OF DATA PREPARATION.
I'M WORKING WITH THE CHAIR ON IT, BUT THANK YOU.
SO, UM, WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR PRIORITIZING AUTHORIZED HEARINGS? A REPORT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE NEW CRITERIA.
IS THAT PUBLISHED SOMEWHERE? I'LL LOOK TO MY, UH, THE REPORT.
THE REPORT MENTIONS THE AUTH, THE CRITERIA FOR AUTHORIZED HEARINGS IS THE QUESTION.
THE REPORT SAYS THAT YOU'VE DEVELOPED NEW CRITERIA YES.
FOR PRIORITIZING AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
WHAT IS IT AND IS IT PUBLISHED ANYWHERE? UM, SO I, WE ARE ACTUALLY BRIEFING, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ON DECEMBER ONE.
UM, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
BUT IF YOU RECALL IN FORWARD DALLAS, THERE WAS A SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION IN FORWARD DALLAS THAT AREAS WHERE THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES, THEY ARE PRIORITIZED FOR AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
SO THAT IS THE MAIN STEM OF THE NEW RANKINGS.
SO WHERE THERE ARE LAND USE USE INCONSISTENCIES, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE ADDRESSING ISSUES BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ADJACENCIES, THOSE ARE
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THE PRIORITIES FOR AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR GETTING THROUGH YOUR BACKLOG ON AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, WHICH AT THIS POINT IS YEARS LONG? WE WILL BE TALKING TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THAT ON DECEMBER 1ST.
SO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE, BUT YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO SHARE IT WITH THE PLAN COMMISSION SINCE I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND BRIEF, UH, CITY PLAN COMMISSION ON THAT.
SO THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION IS NO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA TELL US TODAY.
I THINK I DID SAY THAT WE WERE GOING TO, I WAS GOING TO BRIEF CITY COUNSEL FIRST.
SO IS THERE A PROCESS TO WITHDRAW PLA A PLAT? IS MS. BBAR MS. MR. BBAR STILL HERE? MS. SHARMA? I, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A PROCESS, I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS AT MY FINGERTIPS.
WE COULD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IF WE CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO IT, WE CAN GET AN ANSWER ON THE PROCESS FOR THAT.
YEAH, AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS 'CAUSE YOU INCLUDED AN UPDATE ON SB 15, I BELIEVE IT IS.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING HOW IF SOMEONE COULD WITHDRAW PLAT AND THEN HAVE THE ACREAGE TO APPLY SB 15, HOW THAT WOULD WORK? YEAH.
IN, IN RELATION TO SB 15, WE'VE DEFINITELY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH OUR PLATTING TEAM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
UM, SO, UH, MOHAM HAS TOLD US THAT THE, IN OUR CODE TO, UH, WHAT IS IT CALLED? ABANDON, RIGHT? ABANDON, VACATE, VACATE.
UM, TO VACATE A PLAT, UM, IS THAT THEY CANNOT HAVE INSTALLED ANY INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE PLAT THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED.
SO IF THEY INSTALL ELECTRICAL POLE, ONE WATER LINE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THEY CANNOT VACATE THE PLAT.
SO WITHDRAWAL NORMALLY MEANS WITHDRAW IT BEFORE IT COMES TO CPC.
SO I THINK THAT WAS THEIR MISCOMMUNICATION THERE.
AND DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE LEGAL SUPPORT FOR THAT? WELL, HOW MANY WE'VE HAD? NO.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE LEGAL SUPPORT FOR THAT INTERPRETATION? I THINK IT'S IN OUR CODE.
CAN YOU SEND ME THE SITE PLEASE? I I CAN ASK MOHAMMED TO DO THAT, YES.
UM, IS THERE, WITH SO MANY NEW PLAN COMMISSIONERS, IS THERE ANY, UM, INTENT TO DO TRAINING ON THE NEW SYSTEM? AGAIN, I KNOW WE DID IT IN THE SUMMER, BUT WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE REA OR APPOINTED AGAIN AND
I THINK WE MENTIONED THIS IN THE BRIEFING EARLIER, BUT YEAH, HAPPY TO DO IT AND WE CAN FIND A TIME, UM, AND WE CAN FIND MAYBE AN AGENDA WITH LESS THINGS ON IT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT.
UM, SPEAKING OF THE SIZE OF OUR AGENDAS, WHY ARE OUR DOCKETS SO SHORT RECENTLY? I MEAN, YOU, YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF DALLAS NOW OVER THE SUMMER, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE SPENDING LESS TIME THAN WE TRADITIONALLY HAVE.
AND THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE I'M HEARING FROM DEVELOPERS THAT CASES ARE NOT REALLY GETTING THROUGH ALL THAT MUCH FASTER AND THERE'S STILL A CONSIDERABLE LAG TIME IN, IN PROCESSING THESE CASES.
AND IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE SO MUCH ON THE CPC END AS GETTING IT TO CPC.
YEAH, I WILL SAY THAT, NO, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A SLOWDOWN IN THE AMOUNT OF INTAKE THAT WE HAD OVER THE SUMMER.
IT'S, IT'S DOCUMENTABLE, ESPECIALLY IN THE, UM, THE MAY, JUNE, JULY ERA.
BUT IT'S PICKED BACK UP AND I'M ASSIGNING, I'M SIGNING, UH, LET'S SAY IT'S EIGHT OR NINE EVERY TWO WEEKS.
AND WE ASSIGN CASES WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF EVERY, EVERY SINGLE CASE THAT THAT COMES IN WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF, UM, UH, BEING, UH, FINALLY ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.
SO IT, IT, IT SHOULD BE PICKING UP, WE, WE MENTIONED IT, IT'S TICKING UP, BUT IT, IT IS GOING BACK AND THE SUBMITTALS HAVE, HAVE, HAVE ALSO REBOUNDED TO A, A TYPICAL CLIP.
IT, IT, IT WILL, UM, IT WILL GET, UH, A STEADY INCREASE AS YOU SEE THESE AGENDAS GO ON, I'M SURE OF IT.
AND YOU SAID THAT, UM, YOU, YOU SAID FINAL SUBMITTAL TO THE CITY.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S NOW SOME PRE-SUBMIT PROCESS.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT AND YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME IF THAT IS REFLECTED IN YOUR NUMBERS? YEAH, SO IN ORDER TO SUBMIT A ZONING CASE, A PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN IN THE PAST, UM, HAS TO BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE THEIR PROPERTY AND TELL THE CITY WHERE IT
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IS.AND, AND THE CITY HAS TO BE ABLE TO MAP THAT PROPERTY.
SO THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS IN THE PAST, BUT THAT'S A BIG PART OF, UM, MORE ACCURATE, UM, ZONING CASE PROCESS.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING IS, IS THAT MAPPING OCCURS BEFORE A PROPERTY GOES TO CHANGE ITS ZONING.
UM, VERSUS PROPERTIES THAT HAVE TAKEN YEARS TO MAP IN SOME CASES IF THEY'RE LARGE OR COMPLEX.
UM, BUT I MEAN, A BIG PART OF IT IS, UH, WE HAVE TO KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTY IS IF WE'RE GONNA NOTIFY IT.
'CAUSE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE DO TO MAKE STATE LAW, TO MAKE ZONING HAPPEN AND THEN, UH, CHANGE IT ON THE MAP IS TO KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTY IS.
SO, UM, ALL THESE CASES HAVE THAT NOWADAYS HAVE MAPS, DESCRIPTIONS, UM, MORE COMPLEX THAN YOU, YOU'D THINK, MORE THAN YOU'D HOPE.
UM, SO THAT, THAT IS OCCURRING BEFORE.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE PRIMARY CHANGE WITH REGARDS TO, UM, SUBMITTAL.
UM, YOU STILL ARE NOT A SUBMITTED CASE UNTIL YOU'VE PAID, THAT'S THE SAME AS IT EVER WAS.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE PRIMARY CHANGE.
AND, UM, NOT GOING TO, NOT GOING TO LIKE, USE THAT AS A, AS A, TO TO BRAG ABOUT ANY, ANY CHANGES.
UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD CHANGE, BUT I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT IT, IT, IT, I'M NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA USE THAT AS A POINT TO, TO TALK ABOUT HOW PROCESSING HAS CHANGED.
'CAUSE THAT'S JUST ACCURATE DATA.
WE DO WANT ACCURATE DATA, DON'T WE? I MEAN TO UM, HAVE THE CASE COME IN, BE DESCRIBABLE ACTUALLY BE NOTICEABLE AND BE ABLE TO BE TAKEN FORWARD, I THINK IS JUST GOOD DATA AND MORE ACCURATE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO MOVING FORWARD.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY THAT THAT, UM, SHOULD, UH, BE EVALUATED IN THE TIMELINES NECESSARILY.
SO I'M, I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU TO SAY THAT APPLICANTS HAVE TO PROVIDE THE MAPPING INFORMATION BEFORE THEIR APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED AND THAT TIME PERIOD USED TO BE WITHIN THE PROCESS TIME OF A CASE AND NOW IT'S OUTSIDE THE PROCESS TIME OF A CASE.
UM, DO ALL OF THE CASES THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, EXCEPT FOR THE CASES THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED LAST TWO WEEKS, DO THEY ALL HAVE A PLANNER ASSIGNED AT THIS POINT? YES.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD AT THIS TIME, BUT I MAY THINK OF A FEW MORE.
UM, I WANTED TO GO BACK BECAUSE I DON'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER.
ARE YOU GONNA DISTRIBUTE THE BRIEFING MATERIALS OR NOT? I WAS NOT CLEAR ON THE ANSWER TO THAT.
THIS CAN, THIS CAN BE DISTRIBUTED.
IT'S ON THE WEBSITE IN THE SAME PLACE AS OUR TYPICAL POWERPOINTS AT THIS TIME, BUT IT CAN BE SENT AROUND FOR SURE.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I RESPECT THE REMARK ABOUT CONSTRAINTS ON TIME TO PREPARE THESE REPORTS, BUT AS VOLUNTEERS, I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WE HAVE CONSTRAINTS ON OUR TIME.
SO I LOOKED ALL OVER THE DOCKET, ALL OVER THE AGENDA, NEVER FOUND THIS REPORT POSTED.
IT SLIPPED IN YESTERDAY MORNING.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S MY FAULT FOR NOT SEEING THAT, BUT I'M WAS TOTALLY UNPREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THIS TODAY BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING THAT I COULD LOCATE.
SO HAVING IT MORE THAN 24 HOURS AHEAD OF THE MEETING WOULD BE A GREAT THING IN THE FUTURE.
AND, UH, I DON'T THINK WE WERE ANTICIPATING APPROVING IT TODAY 'CAUSE IT'S STILL NOVEMBER AND WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO GET THIS TO COUNCIL UNTIL FEBRUARY, SO WE STILL HAVE A FEW MORE MONTHS TO TALK ABOUT IT AND, OR AT LEAST THAT DECEMBER MEETING WOULD BE IDEAL TO, TO HAVE A, A FINAL DECISION ON THAT.
BUT, UM, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF OUR PLAN IS TO INTRODUCE IT TODAY AND THEN TO GIVE Y'ALL SOME MORE TIME TO WORK ON IT AND GIVE US FEEDBACK AND THEN WE CAN HOPEFULLY, UM, MAKE A FINAL DECISION IN DECEMBER, PERHAPS JANUARY, AND THEN BE DONE.
UM, I THINK I WAS AS, UH, DIRECTOR, UH, UM, GILES GO.
UM, BUT I, AND WHILE SHE'S COMING, HOW, HOW, HOW, HOW WAS, WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE FOR ZONING, BRINGING ZONING ALL INTO ONE TO CITY HALL, UM, ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE AND ON THE, UM, UM, ZONING, I MEAN FOR THE ZONING DEPARTMENT HERE? YEAH.
SO, UM, NOW THAT WE ARE ALL ONE UNIFIED ZONING TEAM UNDER ONE ZONING UMBRELLA, IT MADE SENSE TO US TO HAVE US ALL IN ONE PLACE SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COLLABORATE AND BUILD AND TRAIN PLANNERS, UH, WHO HAVEN'T, MAYBE, HADN'T PREVIOUSLY BEEN EXPOSED TO THE PLANNING SIDE OF THINGS.
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THAT WAS THE REASON.AND IT ALSO BRINGS THE, REMOVES THE BARRIER FROM, UM, PART OF THAT BARRIER WAS IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DEGREE, THEY COULDN'T, UM, COME PLANTERS AS FAR AS IF THEIR PLAN EXAMINERS, BUT THEY COULDN'T MOVE UP TO BE PLAN PLANTERS.
DOES THAT REMOVE THAT BARRIER THAT DOES, OR ASSIST IN REMOVING THAT BARRIER? IT, IT DOESN'T REMOVE THE BARRIER OF AN EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENT, BUT IT STILL ALLOWS THEM TO BE EXPOSED TO THE ALL PARTS OF THE PROCESS, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT AT PLAN REVIEW.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN EXPOSED TO THE FULL PLANNING PROCESS, IT'S, IT'S JUST PART OF OUR TRAINING.
AND AGAIN, EVERY GET GETTING THEM ALL TO THINK LIKE PLANNERS AND ZONERS.
UM, I GUESS THAT'S THE BUSINESS BECAUSE RIGHT.
I KNOW THAT THE CONCERN WAS FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE OR SOME OF THE PERSPECTIVE THAT, UM, HOW DO YOU GO BACK TO SCHOOL IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR WHATEVER.
BUT, UM, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN, AND MAYBE THIS IS, UH, OF COURSE AT THE TIME THAT YOU DO GO, THAT YOU GO BEFORE CITY, UM, GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND TALK ABOUT, UM, THE AUTHORIZED HEARING OR ARE YOU GOING, IS PART OF THAT QUESTIONING GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SAY, UH, UM, A UM, HOW DO YOU CALL THAT, UH, TASK FORCE OVER A, UM, WHAT'S THE TEAM? WE JUST THAT, THAT PD 5, 9 5 SOUTH DALLAS AREA PLAN, THE AREA PLAN, SAY A AREA PLAN TOOK FIVE YEARS IN THE TASK FORCE, THAT IT SHOULDN'T TAKE AN ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS FOR AUTHORIZED HEARING.
WOULD THAT BE ONE OF THE CO IS THAT GONNA BE INCLUDED IN ANY WAY? AND IF IT'S THE SAME ANSWER, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'LL ALL BE UP FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED FOR US TO BRING FORWARD AND DISCUSS, UM, AT THE BRIEFING WAS WHY AUTHORIZED HEARINGS? SOME OF THEM TAKE SO LONG.
AND SO YES, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS TO, YOU KNOW, TASK FORCE, NO TASK FORCE, YOU KNOW, ADOPTION OF A PLAN, NO ADOPTION OF THE PLAN.
THAT WILL BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND TASK FORCE IS, IS THERE A WAY THAT A TASK FORCE CAN ALMOST RUN, UH, RUN, UM, PARALLEL WITH A, UH, A AUTHORIZED HEARING IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN AU IF IT THE AUTHORIZATION TO FOR A AUTHOR, UH, AUTHORIZED HEARING HAS BEEN GIVEN? I THINK IT OR NO, IT'LL DEPEND ON, IT DEPENDS ON THE CASE AND IT DEPENDS ON THE AREA.
BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SUCCESS WITH TASK FORCE, WE'VE HAD ALSO ISSUES WITH TASK FORCE.
IT'S DEPENDS ON HOW THEY GET SET UP, WHO'S SETTING THEM UP.
SO ALL OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT JUST DEPENDS BY ON THE CASE.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WITH THE SBA 40 IS THERE AT A TIME THAT YOU ALL ARE GONNA COME BEFORE HER.
THE, UM, I, I PERSONALLY, UM, DO HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE BECAUSE I SPEND THE MAJORITY OF MY DAY AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BUILDING.
UM, SO I GET TO GET THAT EXTRA KNOWLEDGE.
BUT IS THERE AT SOME TIME THAT YOU ALL ARE GONNA COME BRIEF THIS, THIS BODY ON WHAT SBA 40 LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THOSE, UH, OR SEND THE INFORMATION ON HOW THE, HOW THE DETERMINATION IS GIVEN, UH, ON WHETHER A PROPERTY QUALIFIES FOR SBA 40? UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU ALL, WHEN WE WERE ASKING THE QUESTION ORIGINALLY, YOU ALL HADN'T GOT EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL WANNA DO THAT NOW THAT YOU ALL DO HAVE A, A STREAMLINE TO HOW THAT IS DETERMINATION IS YOUR, AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GONNA BRIEF THIS BODY.
UM, SO I KNOW WE DID BRIEF EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS BEFORE WE REALLY STARTED, UH, IMPLEMENTING AND, AND DOING SO MANY CONSULTATIONS AND ACTUALLY SEEING PROPOSED PROJECTS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR CONSIDERATION AT LEAST IN THE CONSULTATION PHASE.
SO, UM, WE COULD PROBABLY FIND A TIME TO KIND OF DO A REPORT OUT IF YOU'D LIKE, JUST A FOLLOW UP OF LIKE WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND OR, OR HOW, WHAT, I'M SORRY IF YOU COULD REPEAT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET OUT OF A BRIEFING.
SO FOR ONE, IT WAS LIKE, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE I ALWAYS WANNA BE A GUINEA PIG PLUS, I MEAN, I WORK WITH DEVELOPERS, BUT, BUT ON THIS TEAM SO THAT THEY CAN, SO THAT OUR BODY AND OUR COMMISSION WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT SBA 40 IS JUST NOT A AUTOMATIC GIVEN THAT THERE IS A DETERMINATION THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH AND WE, AND THE CITY DOES HAVE A PROCESS, UM, THAT IT GOES THROUGH, UM MM-HMM
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BRIEFING THEM ON, BRIEFING THEM ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC DEAL.WELL, AND JUST AN UPDATE ON THAT AS WELL, THAT IS ANOTHER, WE ARE SCHEDULED, I THINK IT'S JANUARY, THE JANUARY 5TH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL COMMITTEE MEETING.
WE ARE SCHEDULED, WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, WE ARE SCHEDULED TO BRIEF THAT COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON JANUARY 5TH ABOUT SB 48 40 AND SB 15.
SO AS OF JANUARY 5TH, THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION THAT WE GET FROM THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
UM, SO AFTER THAT WE CAN PROBABLY GIVE AN UPDATE TO THIS BODY AS WELL AS TO WHERE THAT WENT AND IF ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CAME OUT OF THAT BRIEFING.
AND MY LAST QUESTION, UM, WE, WE DID, WE, WE DID ADAPT, UH, UP TO EIGHT UNITS CAN BE ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME ISSUES ON WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, MAKING SURE THAT THE, UH, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO BRIEF THE BODY COUNT? 'CAUSE ORIGINALLY WE WERE, WE WERE, IT WAS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN INTERNAL DOOR, I MEAN INTERNAL HALLWAY.
THEN WE WENT TO A, AN ADDITION WITH THE STAIRS, BUT NOW IT'S, IT'S ALL, IT CAN BE TOWN HALL, CAMP, CONDOS, TILE, IT CAN BE ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT ALSO THAT WE ARE GETTING READY TO
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET IT.
BUT OVERALL, I THANK YOU ALL FOR, I MEAN THE CHANGES WITH DALLAS NOW AND HOW QUICKLY, UM, YOU ALL THAT, THAT THE TEAM, THE CITY, ESPECIALLY WITH JASON POOL AND THOSE WHO ARE LOOKING AT IT EVERY DAY, WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE BEING BROUGHT TO YOU ALL, YOU ALL ARE NOT SAYING, UH, YOU ALL ARE REALLY GOING IN TAKING NOTES AND ENCOURAGING DEVELOPERS, ENCOURAGING STAFF TO SAY THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG.
AND YOU ALL ARE GOING IN AND TAKING NOTE AND, AND FIXING THOSE ITEMS PRETTY QUICKLY.
UM, COMPARED TO YOUR PREVIOUS PROJECT DOCS THAT NEEDED TO BE DOCS
MAY I ADD ONE MORE THING? I'M SORRY.
'CAUSE AS WE WERE SITTING HERE, I HAVE A WAY BETTER ANSWER FOR WIFE
UM, SO ONE THING THAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, WITH BEING SEPARATED FROM THE PLANNING SIDE AND THEN THE, THE PERMITTING SIDE IS AN INCONSISTENCY IN ZONING INTERPRETATIONS.
AND SO TO ALLEVIATE THAT, HAVING EVERYONE IN ONE BUILDING AND WORKING CLOSELY TOGETHER ON THE FRONT END, THE HOPE IS THAT IT WILL LEAD TO CONSISTENCY AND INTERPRETATION AND SPEED THINGS UP AT THE PERMITTING PHASE AND NOT HAVE, YOU KNOW, INCONSISTENT INTERPRETATIONS.
YOU GOT THE ZONING CASE, YOU THINK YOU'RE ALL GOOD TO GO, AND THEN YOU GO TO PERMITTING AND THEY SAY, WELL THAT'S NOT HOW WE'RE READING THIS.
AND SO WE'RE HELPING TO BRIDGE THAT CHAPTER.
CAN I GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF KIND OF WHAT MAYBE SHE MIGHT BE SPEAKING OF? UH, SURE.
WE, THERE WAS A, THERE IS A, UM, A, UM, ARLINGTON PARK HAS A, A, UM, A PD.
THE PD IS, THE NUMBERS WILL SAY THAT IT WAS BUILT, IT WAS PROBABLY CREATED IN, IN THE NINETIES.
AND THE, AND THE TYPE SAYS THAT, UM, THE LOC SITE IS DETERMINED BY PER DWELLING AND THE INTERPRETATION SHOULD PER DWELLING.
IF YOU PUT A DUPLEX THAT IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET PER DWELLING, BUT THAT D DUPLEX, IF IT'S 2D IF IT'S A DUPLEX, THEN YOU WOULD NEED A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT IN A AREA THAT LOOKS LIKE PRETTY MUCH ELM THICKETT.
AND IT WAS LIKE THE INTERPRETER MEAN, WHAT WAS WRITTEN SAYS THAT YOU NEED A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT BECAUSE IT WAS PER DWELLING, BUT THAT WASN'T THE INTENT.
AND HAVING ZONING, TALKING TO ZONING ON ONE, ZONING TALKING TO THE OTHER, THEY WERE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER AND SAY THE INTENT AND WAS ABLE TO FIX THAT AND THEY HELPED FIX THAT.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT HAVING THEM IN ONE DEPARTMENT HELPS FIX AND SEE WHAT WAS WRITTEN THAT WASN'T REALLY WHAT WAS MEANT AT THAT TIME.
I, I, I REALIZE ZONING REFORM IS A MAJOR INITIATIVE FOR YOU GUYS.
YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON IT.
CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A QUICK UPDATE? I KNOW THERE WERE COMMITMENTS MADE TO THE COUNCIL TO ENGAGE OR TO TO HAVE MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
CAN YOU TELL US WHERE YOU ARE ON THAT? UM,
I'M ON THE LONG RANGE PLANNING, SO I'LL TRY MY BEST TO, UM, THERE, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION YES.
ABOUT MORE, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THERE BEING THIS PERIOD OF ENGAGEMENT.
THE COUNT OR THE, THE CONSULTANTS ARE NOW SORT OF BACK IN THEIR CLOSET
THEY, I THINK WE PUBLISHED ON OUR WEBSITE, UM, ALL OF THE, THE PAGES AND PAGES AND PAGES OF COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE,
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THEY'VE BEEN CYCLING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS AND GOING THROUGH ALL OF THEM TO TRY TO INCORPORATE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN INTO THIS INITIAL DRAFT.UM, THERE, THOSE, THERE WERE THOSE CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE DOING STUFF ON THE GROUND FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THEY ARE HOPING TO, WE'RE HOPING THAT IN RELATIVELY EARLY SPRING THERE IS A DRAFT, A VERY INITIAL DRAFT THAT COMES OUT FOR STARTER, AT LEAST INTERNALLY TO START HAVING A DIGESTING, SEEING IF THIS IS MEETING WHAT SOME OF THE, THE COMMITTEES OR THE, THE COMMUNITY SAID.
AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD INTO A NEXT PHASE OF ENGAGEMENT, PROBABLY TOWARD EARLY SUMMER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN START REVIEWING THE, THE DRAFT.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO KEEP TALKING IN BIG CONCEPTS, RIGHT? UNTIL YOU START SEEING, OKAY, WHEN YOU SAID X, WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY REALLY MEAN IN PRINT? SO REALLY GIVING SOME THINGS FOR FOLKS TO DIGEST.
WHEN YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU, YOU HAVE A DRAFT FOR THE CONSULTANTS OR FROM THE CONSULTANTS, HOW DO YOU INTEND TO DISTRIBUTE THAT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY? BECAUSE LAST TIME WE, WE FOUND, OR AT LEAST I DID AS A QUOTE UNQUOTE COMMUNITY ACTIVIST, WHATEVER, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE.
SO HOW DO YOU GET THE WORD OUT TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY, THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT INITIATIVE THAT'S UNDERWAY AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THIS CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.
SO HOW DO YOU PROPOSE GETTING THE WORD OUT? UM, UH, WELL WE DO, WE DO HAVE A WEBPAGE WHERE I IMAGINE WE'RE KEEPING THAT UPDATED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
UM, I IMAGINE WE'LL POST DRAFTS THERE, UM, AND THEN DIRECTING PEOPLE TO THAT WEBSITE.
WE DO HAVE A, UM, OUR CONSULTANT HAS IS PAIRING WITH A SUB-CONSULTANT WHO SPECIALIZES IN, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND SO THEY WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE ARE REACHING THE WIDEST AUDIENCE WE CAN TO GET INPUT FROM ALL.
IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE OTHER RECOMMENDATION I'M DEEPLY INVOLVED IN, IN NEIGHBORHOOD MATTERS, PARTICULARLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND, AND I THINK COMMENTS COMING FROM CITY STAFF THAT WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THOSE COMMUNITY LEADERS, IF YOU WILL.
WE WERE NEVER CONTACTED AND WE'RE REGISTERED WITH THE CITY AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I TOOK A POLL OF, OF MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HOAS HEADS AND THEY WERE NEVER CONTACTED.
SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU AND I REALIZE THAT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE NAMES CHANGE AND THE CONTACT, BUT, BUT THERE IS A WAY AND, AND IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH THAT, I CERTAINLY HAVE SOME GROUPS IN MIND THAT MAY GIVE YOU A BIT OF, UM, A SHORTCUT IF YOU WILL, TO, TO GET TO SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THAT'S A GREAT WAY OBVIOUSLY TO GET THIS INFORMATION IN THE HANDS OF EVERYDAY CITIZENS THAT NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON.
SO I JUST ON THAT NOTE, BECAUSE YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT AND I WILL SAY THAT, SO WE, WHERE WE, WE DO HAVE THE CHALLENGE AND YES, WE HAVE AN, WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION DATABASE.
WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH OTHER PROCESSES, WE DID SEND OUT TO EVERY SINGLE ONE THAT WE HAD MULTIPLE TIMES AND ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS WE HAVE ASKED SEVERAL YEARS FOR UPDATES FOR PEOPLE TO UPDATE THE INFORMATION, UPDATE YOUR PRIMARY POINTS OF CONTACT.
WE ARE NOW WORKING INTERNALLY TO THINK ABOUT WAYS TO ACTUALLY GET THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT SOLID DATA AND INFORMATION AND POINTS OF CONTACT SO WE CAN GET TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
SO WE DO HAVE TO PARTNER TOGETHER AND I THINK DOING THAT WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE Z ZONING REFORM PROCESS.
UM, ACTUALLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING TEAM IS ABOUT TO KICK OFF SOMETHING COMING IN THE NEXT YEAR THAT HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE, IT WILL HELP IMPROVE HOW WE'RE ENGAGING AND COMMUNICATING AND UPDATING INFORMATION AND KEEPING THINGS CURRENT SO THAT IT IS EASIER FOR FOLKS TO, WHO WANT TO BE INVOLVED, TO STAY INVOLVED AND TO GET INVOLVED.
JUST IF I COULD, AND I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT, BUT, BUT A COUPLE OF OTHER IDEAS FOR YOU, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY ALL DO NEWSLETTERS, UH, ENCOURAGE THEM TO, TO PUBLISH COMMENTS REGARDING UPDATING THE INFORMATION AND THE IMPORTANCE OF DOING THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS WE ALL GET WATER BILLS AND I HAVE ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THERE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO CONSERVE WATER AND REPORT LEAKS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
THAT MIGHT BE AN AVENUE TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE NOT EXPECTING US TO VOTE TO ACCEPT THE ANNUAL REPORT TODAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE IT'S ON OUR DOCKET AS A BRIEFING AND AS A ACTION ITEM BECAUSE I'M NOT PREPARED TO, I I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON SOMETHING I HAVEN'T READ.
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I DID NOT GET THE REPORT UNTIL YESTERDAY AND I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO READ IT THOROUGHLY.VOTING IS AN OPTION, BUT CERTAINLY MAY BE DONE AT THE NEXT HEARING.
I, ONE OTHER QUESTION ON A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.
UM, WITH PARKING REFORM HAVING BEEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE BOOKS NOW FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF, UH, WHAT EFFECT PARKING REFORM IS HAVING ON KEEPING CASES OFF, UM, PLAN COMMISSION DOCKETS BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER REQUIRE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE DATA ON THE, ON THE ABSENCE OF, OF THOSE THINGS.
DO YOU HAVE AN INFORMAL IMPRESSION? UNFORTUNATELY, I PERSONALLY, AS THE PLANNING MANAGER WHO SIGNS ALL THE CASES, I'VE SEEN MORE CASES, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT A TON, BUT I'VE SEEN A COUPLE CASES WITHDRAW 'CAUSE A SB EIGHT 40, BUT NONE SPECIFICALLY WHERE A CASE CAME IN AND THEY SAID, UM, HEY, I WANT, I NEED TO DO THIS, OR I NEED TO ADJUST MY PARKING.
UH, AND, AND THEN WITHDREW UPON LEARNING ABOUT THE, THE NEW, UM, UH, RULES.
SO I, I DON'T, IT, IT, I CAN'T DETECT A MAJOR EFFECT ON ZONING CASES.
I THINK A LOT OF THE, MY OPINION, I MEAN A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BENEFITED THE MOST OR WILL MAKE USE OF IT, ARE GOING TO BE SMALLER BUSINESSES THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME AND DO A ZONING CHANGE ANYWAY.
UM, RATHER THEY JUST OPEN THEIR BUSINESS, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, IN A SMALLER SCALE AND MAY NOT HAVE NEEDED TO COME IN FOR A ZONE OR MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD THE RESOURCES TO, TO COME IN AND GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND I'LL ADD TO THAT, THAT WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PARKING SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE APPLIED FOR AT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND UM, WHEN THE DECISION BY COUNCIL WAS MADE IN MAY, THEY ALL WITHDREW BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T NEED TO GO THROUGH ANYMORE OR THEY WERE DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE 'CAUSE IT WASN'T REQUIRED ANYMORE.
UM, SO WE'VE SEEN SEVERAL CASES FROM THE BOARD, UM, NOT BE REQUIRED ANYMORE BECAUSE THOSE ARE USUALLY LIKE ONE ISSUE REQUEST.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WE'VE ALSO HAD A LOT OF INTEREST IN PERING AGREEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT MEGAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO WELL YEAH, UM, I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, UM, JUST TO TOUCH ON THE PERMITTING SIDE OF IT, WE ARE TRACKING THAT AS WELL.
UM, I KNOW THAT WE'LL NEED TO REPORT OUT ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE RESULTS OF THE REFORM.
SO WE ARE WORKING, UH, ON THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE NUMBERS YET, BUT WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL EXAMPLES AT PERMITTING WHERE, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO CALCULATE PARKING OR THE REQUIREMENT FOR AGREEMENT IS NOW NOT NECESSARY AND IS SPEEDING UP PERMITTING TIMES.
SO WE'LL HAVE MORE, MORE, UH, DATA ON THAT IN THE FUTURE.
UM, MOVING ON TO SB EIGHT 40 AND AELA, YOU KNOW, SINCE, UM, PROJECTS DONE UNDER SENATE BILL EIGHT 40 DON'T REQUIRE ANY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY INPUT OR ANYTHING IS, IS IS THERE GONNA BE ANY PLACE IN AELA WHERE, YOU KNOW, JOE BLOW CITIZEN CAN GO AND SAY, OH, THESE THESE PROJECTS ARE IN THE WORKS THROUGH EIGHT 40? 'CAUSE I KNOW ALSO WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS IF SOMEONE'S WANTING TO DO SOMETHING THROUGH EIGHT 40, THE STAFF HAS DEVELOPED A LIST OF SPECIFIC USES THAT, OR SPECIFIC COS THAT YOU KNOW CANNOT BE WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR A SURVEY.
CAN WE GET SOME BRIEFING ON THAT? 'CAUSE IF THEY'RE GOING BY COS I, I'VE GOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE I HAVE, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, METAL SALVAGE OPERATING ON OFFICE SHOWROOM WAREHOUSE COS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, UH, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME IF, OR I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE WHOLE, UH, CITY IF, UH, THE CITIZENS, IF WE COULD GET SOME, IF THERE'S SOMEPLACE WE CAN GO TO SEE WHAT'S BEING, UM, PROPOSED AS A SB EIGHT 40 AND IT MUST BE IN A CELL SOMEWHERE BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT SUVS AND ZONING CASES AND JUST CURRENT PLANNING REQUESTS.
SO IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN ADD A CATEGORY FOR EIGHT 40? THERE, THERE HAS BEEN A FLAG ADDED, UM, IN DALLAS NOW.
SO IF SOMEONE IS SUBMITTING UNDER SB EIGHT 40, UM, THERE IS A BOX THEY CHECK.
SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GENERATE THE DATA FROM THAT.
UM, REGARDING THE COS I MEAN, I TOTALLY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM IN D SIX.
UM, THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS THE LEGAL RECORD THOUGH, SO I THINK TO SOME EXTENT WE MUST GO WITH WHAT WAS THE, THE CO IS WHAT WAS LEGALLY ESTABLISHED.
IF SOMETHING IS HAPPENING ILLEGALLY, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
BUT IT'S A REAL, REAL SOURCE OF FRUSTRATION IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN YOU REPORT ILLEGAL LAND USES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND IT JUST GETS DROPPED AND THE CODE POINTS AT BI AND THEY POINT BACK AND THE, THE ILLEGAL BUSINESS JUST KEEPS GOING.
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HAVING, WELL IF YOU'RE GOING BY CO WELL, OKAY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS SOME OTHER TIME, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.I WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION BUT I DON'T PUT ANYBODY OFF.
I'M HAPPY, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION UNLESS SOMEONE HAS FURTHER QUESTIONS.
SO WE'LL GO TO YOU FOR A MOTION.
UM, IN THE MATTER OF 25 DASH 3 3 7 5 A, I MOVE THAT WE, UM, KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND TAKE THIS UP ON DECEMBER 4TH.
OR IT COULD BE IN JANUARY, BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO UNDER RULES NEED TO GET IT DONE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
IS THAT RIGHT? SO OUR DEADLINE TO GET IT TO THE CITY MANAGER IS FEBRUARY 1ST.
SO IT'S PROBABLY, I MEAN, SOONER THE BETTER, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK WE CAN WAIT UNTIL, UM, DECEMBER 4TH TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE VIA EMAIL AND COME BACK ON THE FOURTH.
WE DON'T WANT MS. TOLBERT TOLBERT TO THINK THAT WE'RE TARDY.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO HOLD THE ITEM OF THE REPORT UNTIL DECEMBER 4TH.
I BELIEVE THAT WRAPS UP OUR AGENDA FOR THE DAY.
SO IT IS 3:29 PM AND THIS CONCLUDES THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLANT COMMISSION.