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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. IT IS DECEMBER 1ST. THE TIME IS 1:03.
[Economic Development on December 1, 2025.]
WE'RE CALLING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER.WE'RE GOING TO SKIP OUR MINUTES AND GO STRAIGHT INTO BRIEFING AND ACTION ITEMS. FIRST ITEM IS ITEM A.
ALL RIGHT. I'VE JUST BEEN CORRECTED. WE HAVE TWO MINUTES, BUT WE'LL ONLY BE APPROVING ONE SET.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NOVEMBER 3RD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETINGS? SO MOVED. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? A MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT.
NOW WE'LL GO TO ITEM A. SORRY, Y'ALL. I WAS ALREADY DOING AUTHORIZED HEARING BUSINESS.
ANDREA GILLIS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.
I WILL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, THE CITY INITIATED ZONINGS.
THIS BRIEFING IS A RESULT OF A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST TO SORT OF GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS. WHY ARE THERE SOME OF THE DELAYS AND TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND NEXT SLIDE.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO. I THINK MOST FOLKS ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF.
OKAY. SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO CATCH ANYONE UP WHO HASN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS FOR YEARS AND YEARS, TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND. AND SO THIS IS JUST REALLY HOW CITY INITIATED ZONINGS ARE INITIATED.
SO WE CALL THEM AUTHORIZED HEARINGS. BUT REALLY, WHAT THEY ARE IS LARGE AREA OR LARGE AREA CITY INITIATED REZONINGS, MEANING THAT IT'S NOT A PRIVATE ZONING. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS INITIATED BY THE CITY AND IT CAN BE INITIATED TWO WAYS.
IT CAN EITHER BE INITIATED BY FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO FROM CITY COUNCIL, WHICH TAKES THE.
AND YOU JUST NEED A MAJORITY VOTE AT EITHER ONE OF THOSE BODIES TO INITIATE THE PROCESS OR TO AUTHORIZE THE PROCESS, HENCE AUTHORIZED HEARING. I WILL SAY THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR AUTHORIZED HEARINGS HAVE BEEN INITIATED BY CITY PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT THAN HOW.
WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. IT'S NOT SOMEWHAT. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MOST JURISDICTIONS DO.
MOST JURISDICTIONS, IT IS ENTIRELY INITIATED EITHER BY CITY COUNCIL.
CITY COUNCIL ARE THE ONLY FOLKS THAT INITIATE LARGE AREA REZONINGS, OR IT COMES OUT OF THE REQUEST, SPECIFICALLY IN AN ADOPTED PLAN. IT FOLLOWS AN ADOPTED PLAN THAT SAID, THERE IS INCONSISTENT ZONING HERE PER THE LAND USE THAT'S RECOMMENDED IN THIS PLAN. SO THEREFORE WE NEED TO REZONE AND THEN IT CAN COME OUT OF THAT PLAN.
SO THIS IS THE TEAM MAKEUP. WE'RE LED BY CHIEF PLANNER.
WE DO HAVE THREE PLANNERS OR THREE SENIOR PLANNERS, ONE OF WHICH WAS ADDED THIS FISCAL YEAR.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING OFF OF TWO SENIOR PLANNERS.
WE HAVE A PLANNER I AND TWO PLANNER IIS, WHICH HAS BEEN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING. WE HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME.
AND THIS IS SORT OF ACROSS THE BOARD THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
WE HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME HIRING SENIOR PLANNERS.
THERE'S THIS WEIRD SWEET SPOT. WE GET TONS OF APPLICATIONS FOR PLANNER IS AND PLANNER IIS, TONS OF APPLICATIONS FOR THE HIGHER LEVEL POSITIONS.
VERY FEW APPLICATIONS FOR SENIOR PLANNERS. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MANAGE THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS, WE DIDN'T HAVE PLANNER IS AND PLANNER IIS BEFORE.
WE'VE NOW STARTED SHIFTING AROUND SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS OR RECLASSIFYING SOME OF THE HIGHER LEVEL POSITIONS INTO PLANNER IS AND PLANNER IIS TO HAVE PEOPLE GROW INTO THOSE SENIOR PLANNER POSITIONS, BUT IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE.
RIGHT NOW, ALL OF OUR SENIOR PLANNER POSITIONS ARE VACANT.
SO IF WE'RE IN THIS TEAM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE NEW ONE COMING ON BOARD SOON WITH EXPERIENCE.
IT IS HARD TO FIND PEOPLE WITH THIS TYPE OF EXPERIENCE DOING THIS TYPE OF WORK.
YOU ALSO NEED TO KNOW HOW TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL GO OVER IN THE NEXT SLIDE. SO, AND NOT ONLY DOES THIS TEAM WORK ON AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAYS.
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WHICH WE HADN'T HAD ANY FOR SEVERAL YEARS. SO WE DO HAVE TWO NOW.SO OUR TEAM CAN STILL BE WORKING ON THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST IS VERY WELL AWARE OF THIS.
WE COMPLETED FIVE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS. THERE WERE FIVE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS ADOPTED IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, FOUR OF WHICH WERE IN WOCAP. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FIVE, BUT WE DE-AUTHORIZED ONE OF THOSE.
AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO FLORAL FARMS IN DISTRICT EIGHT.
WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF THREE MEETINGS. AND WHEN WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF THREE MEETINGS, THAT USUALLY MEANS THAT THERE WAS A PLAN ALREADY ESTABLISHED FOR THAT AREA, AND THERE WAS SOLID DIRECTION FROM A FUTURE LAND USE PERSPECTIVE ABOUT WHAT THE VISION FOR THAT AREA WAS.
NOW, THERE ARE CAVEATS TO THAT AS WELL, BUT THAT'S GENERALLY HOW YOU CAN DO THESE IN THREE MEETINGS.
SO YOU HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING. TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT DO YOU ALL FEEL. AND THEN WE COME BACK WITH SOME FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
SOME OF THEM WE'VE HAD, ONE OF THE WOCAP ONES, WE HAD 15 COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE SORT OF ONE ON ONE MEETINGS OR GOING OUT TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR MEETING INDIVIDUALLY OR WITH A COUPLE FOLKS AT A TIME.
SO IT CAN BE DONE IN THREE, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY PRETTY RARE.
CITY PLAN COMMISSION MAKES THE RECOMMENDATION.
CITY COUNCIL IS THE FINAL AUTHORITY ON THE ADOPTED PROPOSAL.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. SO THIS ONE IS THE AUTHORIZED HEARING BY THE NUMBERS.
AND THE REASON WHY I PUT A RED AROUND THAT BOX OR THAT COLUMN WAS BECAUSE IT'S SORTED BY THAT COLUMN, SO WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE AUTHORIZED HEARING.
SO THIS IS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SO YOU CAN SEE WHEN IT WAS AUTHORIZED, WHEN IT WAS KICKED OFF.
AND THE KICK OFF MEANS THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY KICKED OFF TO HAVE AN A COMMUNITY MEETING TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE READY TO GO. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS COMMUNITY MEETING.
AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT IT IS HARD TO PREDICT HOW LONG THESE ARE GOING TO TAKE.
BUT IT IS REALLY HARD TO PREDICT HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT WE HAVE SOME OF THE ONES THAT WERE IN THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA.
I THINK THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME WAS NINE MONTHS.
THAT WAS FOR THE JIMTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT ONE LARGELY TOOK.
IT WAS MULTIFAMILY TO SINGLE FAMILY. THERE WASN'T A LOT OF CHALLENGE TO THAT ONE.
THERE WASN'T A LOT OF CONCERN AND IT WAS 50 PROPERTIES.
THEN YOU GO IN INTO, YOU KNOW, HAMPTON CLARENDON, WHICH TOOK, YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR TO COMPLETE.
AND ALL OF THESE HAD ADOPTED PLANS WITHIN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
THEY HAD VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS IN THOSE PLANS FOR WHAT THE ZONING SHOULD BE.
AND NORMALLY WHEN WE HAVE THAT, THOSE ARE CASES WHERE IT NORMALLY TAKES 6 TO 9 MONTHS TO DO THE ZONING, BUT WE KNOW THAT OTHER ISSUES COME UP ALONG THE WAY AND WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE ISSUES.
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BUT SOME FORM OF CONSENSUS TO GET US ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.YOU KNOW, FLORAL FARMS TOOK TWO YEARS AND FIVE MONTHS.
I WAS LOOKING AT COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF.
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF VARIATION. SO WHEN PEOPLE ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG DOES THIS TAKE? OR WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG? YES, WE CAN CONTROL SOMETHING.
STAFF CAN CONTROL SOME THINGS. WE CAN GET MORE STAFF IN.
WE CAN TRY TO STAGGER. WE CAN TRY TO, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO DIFFERENT PARTNERS TO HELP WITH THIS, BUT A LOT OF IT IS ALSO OUT OF STAFF'S CONTROL ABOUT HOW LONG SOME OF THIS CAN TAKE.
IT'S NOT REALLY UNTIL WE KICK THESE OFF AND GET INTO THE COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DYNAMICS ARE, THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO UNDERSTAND HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE HAD. AND I'LL TALK THROUGH THIS WHEN WE GET TO A DIFFERENT SLIDE.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF STOPS AND STARTS, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND SHIFTING WITH THIS PROGRAM IS THAT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CASES WHERE WE'VE STARTED. WE GET DOWN A CERTAIN POINT, IT SEEMS CONTENTIOUS, AND THEN WE STOP.
OR WE HAVE A CHANGE IN COUNCIL OR WE HAVE A CHANGE IN COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, IN COMMISSIONERS, AND WE STOP AND THEN WE PAUSE. WELL, THEN IT'S HARD.
THEN WE HAVE TO REGROUP AND THINK ABOUT, OKAY, NOW WHICH ONE DO WE DO NEXT? AND THEN WE KICK THAT ONE OFF AND THEN SOMEBODY WILL SAY, NOPE, LET'S RESTART IT AGAIN.
AND SO IT'S A LOT OF MANAGING OF TIMING. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO.
MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT LIMITING THE STOPS AND STARTS, BECAUSE ONCE IT'S AUTHORIZED, ONCE IT'S INITIATED, WE'RE THINKING THAT IT'S IN STAFF'S HANDS AND WE'RE READY TO GO.
YOU'VE SAID WE NEED TO LOOK AT THEIR ZONING FOR THIS AREA.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO FOR RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A TOTAL NUMBER OF PENDING AUTHORIZED HEARINGS AT 17.
AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH. I THINK IT MIGHT BE IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
BUT I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH EACH OF THOSE SORT OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT EACH OF THOSE.
WE HAVE TWO CURRENTLY IN PROCESS THAT WE JUST KICKED OFF.
WE HAVE PD 595 SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK, WHICH WE JUST COMPLETED AN AREA PLAN FOR THAT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE SINGLETON/WESTMORELAND CORRIDOR AREA.
THAT'S BEEN PENDING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. WE ALSO JUST KICKED THAT OFF IN THE PAST MONTH.
WE HAVE 2 TO 3 THAT WILL BE SOON TO KICK OFF, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDING ON OUR STAFFING.
BUT WE HOPE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE KICKED OFF QUICKLY.
WE HAVE FIVE CURRENTLY ON HOLD. IT MIGHT BE 5 TO 7 THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON HOLD.
AND THEN WE HAVE SEVEN REMAINING FOR THEM TO BE KICKED OFF.
AND SOME OF THEM CAN BE ADDRESSED EITHER THROUGH ZONING CODE REFORM.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE ACTIVE CASES.
SO WE CAN HAVE ANYWHERE FROM ONE LITERALLY ON THE LIST RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE PROPERTY AND 10,000 PROPERTIES WITHIN THE AREA. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE. THERE ARE FACTORS IN THAT AS WELL.
WE'VE GOT THE CLIPPERS THAT HAVE THOUSANDS OF ACRES.
ONE OF THEM HAS, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 4000 PROPERTIES AND THEN THOUSANDS OF ACRES.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE ISSUE AS WELL THAT SOME OF THESE ARE VERY, VERY LARGE AREAS.
AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU. I MEAN, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE WE'RE GOING TO SEND OUT NOTICES FOR PD 595, RIGHT? WE'VE SENT OUT NOTICES TO 10,000 FOLKS.
WE ARE GOING TO MANAGE POTENTIALLY UP TO. WE HAVE TO.
IMAGINE, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IF EVERYBODY ENGAGED.
SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE SIZE OF IT, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO THAT DISCUSSION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. SO THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE RANK THESE, HOW WE PRIORITIZE.
I'VE BEEN USING RANKINGS. WE CAN SAY PRIORITIZATION.
THIS IS HOW THEY USED TO BE RANKED. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN.
SO CITY INITIATED REZONINGS. THE CORE OF A CITY INITIATED REZONING.
AND THIS IS, I'M JUST PUTTING ON MY LITTLE PLANNER CAP.
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IS THE CORE OF IT IS FOR THE CITY WHEN WE ADOPTED A PLAN OR WE HAVE A FUTURE VISION, LAND USE VISION OR GROWTH VISION FOR AN AREA, WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT AREA. THE LAND USE IS ON THE GROUND OR THE ZONING ON THE GROUND DO NOT MATCH THE FUTURE VISION FOR THAT AREA.SO THE LAND USE PLANS AND STUDIES WOULD GET THE MOST POINTS GOING TOWARD WHO GETS PRIORITIZED.
IF WE HAVE THIS LONG LIST, YOU KNOW, WHO GETS PRIORITIZED.
THEN WE HAD SOMETHING CALLED SPECIAL CITY DESIGNATED AREAS.
OTHER CITY PROGRAMS, BOND PROGRAMS, AND TRANSITIONAL AREAS.
WHERE ARE THESE AREAS WITHIN ONE OF THESE PROGRAMS? I WILL SAY, WHEN I CAME ON BOARD, I DID AN ANALYSIS LIKE WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM, LIKE THE WHOLE LIST HAS LIKE TWO POINTS OR LIKE ONE POINT OR LIKE, AND 50% OF THEM HAD ZERO POINTS, ONE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T IN AN AREA THAT HAD HAD A RECENT PLAN.
AND MOST OF THEM, I THINK WERE IN TIF AREAS, WHICH YOU GOT THREE POINTS FOR.
SO WE REALLY HAD TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE HANDLING THIS, WHAT ARE WE DOING THROUGH THIS? AND WE USED THE PROCESS OF FORWARDDALLAS TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE WE TOOK A DATA DRIVEN APPROACH TO IT AND MAPPED A LOT OF THE AREAS THAT HAD INCONSISTENT ZONING WITH THE RECOMMENDED FUTURE LAND USE.
SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE UPDATED RANKINGS.
THERE IS STILL SOME SIMILARITIES HERE. BUT WHAT WE'RE PLACING A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON IS, IS THE ZONING IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS, EITHER IN FORWARDDALLAS OR IF THERE IS A MORE RECENT AREA PLAN OR CORRIDOR PLAN OR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED FOR THE AREA? AND FORWARD DALLAS SPECIFICALLY TALKS ABOUT HOW WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AREAS WHEN IT COMES TO AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, MEANING YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL NEXT IN INDUSTRY, OR YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL THAT HAS INDUSTRIAL ZONING ON IT.
WE HAVE GOT TO FIX THOSE AREAS BECAUSE THEY KEEP COMING UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
AND I WILL SAY, THOUGH, THE SINGLETON WESTMORELAND AUTHORIZED HEARING IS SPECIFICALLY THAT FORWARDDALLAS RECOMMENDED A FUTURE LAND USE FOR THAT AREA OTHER THAN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AND NOW WE'RE COMING BACK IN AND LOOKING AT, OKAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THE ZONING IN THIS AREA? WE'VE GOT TO TEASE IT OUT ONCE AND FOR ALL. FLORAL FARMS WAS THE HEAD OF THE GAME ON THAT ONE BECAUSE FLORAL FARMS WAS ALREADY IN PROCESS.
AND WE WERE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT. AND WE WORKED THROUGH THAT LAST FISCAL YEAR.
THE LAST ONE THAT WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME IS THE JOPPEE AREA.
AND THERE WILL BE A. THERE'S A JOPPEE AUTHORIZED.
THERE'S A REQUEST FOR AN AUTHORIZED HEARING THAT IS COMING INTO CPC, PROBABLY NOT THIS THURSDAY, BUT PROBABLY THE MEETING AFTER THAT. SO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO, YOU KNOW, DOES IT HAVE A RECENTLY ADOPTED EITHER AREA NEIGHBORHOOD CORRIDOR PLAN, PR A SMALLER AREA PLAN WITHIN THE PAST TEN YEARS OR ONE THAT COMES OUT OF FORWARDDALLAS? YES, WE HAVE FORWARDDALLAS, BUT WE ALWAYS SAID DURING THE FORWARDDALLAS PROCESS THAT THERE ARE AREAS THAT WILL NEED A MORE FOCUSED LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA.
SO WE MAY HAVE SMALLER AREA PLANS. IF THERE IS A MAJOR BOND OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT POTENTIALLY WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE DEVELOPMENT IN A CERTAIN AREA, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE ZONING THERE IF WE NEED TO.
HOW LONG HAVE THESE CASES BEEN WAITED? IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE, I THINK THERE'S ONE OF THEM IN HERE, WHERE THEY BASICALLY KIND OF SCORED THE SAME.
BUT WHAT TIPPED THEM OVER THE EDGE IS THIS ONE WAS WAITING LONGER THAN THE OTHER ONE.
LET'S GO FOR THE ONE THAT'S BEEN WAITING LONGER THAN GETS PRIORITY.
AND THEN THIS IS PART OF ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE.
WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THAT AREA. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO THIS IS A MAP OF. WHEN WE COMPLETED FORWARDDALLAS, WE DID A ZONING TO FUTURE PLACE TYPE ANALYSIS FOR THE AREA AND TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE ZONING ON THE GROUND WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
NOW, THERE COULD BE SOME AREAS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO FACTOR IN PDS.
SO WHAT WE TOOK IN THOSE CASES IN THAT MAP IS SHOWING THAT AREAS AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THE GREEN, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THE AREA AROUND THE TRINITY RIVER THAT IS ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL.
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WE TRIED TO TEASE SOME OF THAT OUT. A LOT OF THIS IS SHOWING A LOT OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT FOLKS THAT WE, AS THE CITY DECIDED NEEDED TO SHIFT. AND THEN SOME OF AREAS THAT WE WANTED TO PROMOTE MAKE MORE MIXED USE VERSUS JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL USE IN THOSE AREAS. AND SO THIS MAP IS ALSO OVERLAID WITH THE ZONING ON THE GROUND.NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. OKAY. SO THE LIST. SO THIS IS ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT I THINK SOME OF IT THAT WE JUST NEED TO TALK THROUGH AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT AND WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HERE TODAY, BUT WHEN WE COME IN, I WOULD SAY IN THE NEW YEAR. THERE, I'M GOING TO JUST POINT OUT AREAS WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER OVER THIS AREA TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, GUYS, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? IT'S BEEN HANGING OUT HERE.
WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? SO WE'VE GOT THE TOP TWO THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS.
AND THE ONES SORT OF IN THE CORAL ORANGE-Y FADED RED COLOR.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE OFFICIALLY BEEN PAUSED.
AND WHEN I SAY OFFICIALLY, IT WAS JUST WE WERE ASKED TO PAUSE THEM BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER AT A CERTAIN POINT, FOR WHATEVER REASON. SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THOSE AND WE'VE STARTED TALKING TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT THE ONES IN DISTRICT 4 ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND I WILL SAY BOTH OF THOSE, THOSE HAVE BEEN PAUSED FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.
AND WHAT I WILL SAY, THOSE. FOR EXAMPLE, ONES THAT HAD BEEN IN MOTION, WE HAD HAD THOSE IN MOTION AND WE HAD HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND WE HAD STARTED THOSE DISCUSSIONS. AND THEN THEY WERE PAUSED.
SO AGAIN, WHEN WE STARTED THAT PROCESS AND THEN WE HAD TO RESHIFT.
THOSE ARE NEXT IN LINE TO START TALKING ABOUT HOW WE KICK THOSE OFF, UNLESS WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IS A HOLISTIC CONVERSATION WITH FOLKS OF LIKE, ANY OF THE PAUSED ONES, ARE WE NEEDING TO REENGAGE? ALTHOUGH I SEE YOU SHAKING YOUR HEAD. BUT THERE'S ALSO. SO PART OF THAT IS TOO, THERE'S POTENTIAL OTHER SOLUTIONS.
THERE'S A YELLOW BAR THERE. THERE ARE SOME OF THESE THAT CAN EITHER PROBABLY BE ADDRESSED THROUGH CODE REFORM AND HOLISTICALLY ADDRESSED THROUGH CODE REFORM, OR A PROCESS THAT WE'RE UNDERGOING RIGHT NOW FOR SOME TYPE OF CODE AMENDMENT, EITHER THROUGH A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT OR SOME OTHER CHAPTER IN THE CODE. AND MAYBE THEY'RE NOT ENTIRELY ADDRESSED THROUGH THAT, BUT THEY CAN BE A PARALLEL TRACKED AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE MIGHT.
IF WE STILL NEED A ZONING REMEDY, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THROUGH THERE.
I WOULD SAY THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE ON HERE TOO THAT WE JUST NEED TO QUESTION, DO WE NEED THEM? THERE'S ONE THAT'S JUST ONE PROPERTY. THAT COULD BE A CHALLENGE.
THERE'S ALSO ONE THAT'S JUST A HANDFUL OF PROPERTIES.
SO I WOULD SAY MY. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I WON'T BE HERE IN THE NEW YEAR.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE START, YOU KNOW, IF I WERE TO BE HERE, I WOULD BE SETTING UP TIMES TO MEET WITH EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO REALLY TALK THROUGH THE VERY SPECIFIC ISSUES FOR EACH OF THESE CASES, AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE OUT OF THEM AND HOW DO WE WANT TO GET THIS? ARE THE BOUNDARIES STILL RIGHT? ARE THERE AREAS WHERE WE CAN FOCUS ON? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED TO GET WITH THESE? BECAUSE WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING THROUGH THESE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
ESPECIALLY TO WHEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT CAN BE ADDRESSED THROUGH CODE REFORM VERSUS WHAT WOULD.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE REALLY DO NEED AN INDIVIDUAL AUTHORIZED HEARING FOR.
NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO AS PART OF THE NEXT STEPS.
AND I WILL SAY, I DID HAVE. THIS WILL BE PART OF THE WEBSITE UPDATE.
AND WE DO ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FREESE AND NICHOLS ON CONTRACT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
WE WANT TO KICK OFF OUR NEXT CASES, THE NEXT 2 TO 3 CASES WITHIN THE NEW YEAR.
AND THEN CONTINUING ON WITH THOSE TWO THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PROCESS.
AND THEN WE ALSO WANT TO. WE'VE STARTED TO MAKE UPDATES, BUT WE'VE HAD TO.
WHEN WE MERGED, WE HAD TO DO AN ENTIRE OVERHAUL OF OUR WEBSITE.
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SO WE'VE STARTED MAKING UPDATES TO OUR PAGE, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE THE AUTHORIZED HIRING PAGE MUCH MORE INTERACTIVE AND USER FRIENDLY. HAVING A MAP OF ALL OF THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS PENDING, ACTIVE, IN QUEUE.AND SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET SOME REAL TIME INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OF THE CASES AND WHAT YOU CAN.
YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU CAN FIND OUT ABOUT THE CASES, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHO TO CONTACT, BUT HAVING MORE REAL TIME INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS ON THE WEBSITE. AND I THINK WITH THAT, THAT IS ALL.
AND I'M ASSUMING YOU ALL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, SO I'M ABSOLUTELY HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
ALL RIGHT. FIRST QUESTION IS, ARE YOU WILLING TO STICK AROUND TO TALK TO US ABOUT EACH OF THOSE PENDING CASES FOR A FEW MONTHS? SURE. JUST GIVE ME A CALL. SO WE'VE GOT. I COULDN'T THINK OF A BETTER GROUP OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THREE FORMER CPC COMMISSIONERS TO GET US STARTED.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO START WITH FOUR ONE, TWO.
COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, ANDREA.
I AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHEN THE UPDATED RANKINGS WERE INITIATED.
IT'S SORT OF BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS, PROBABLY FOR.
I MEAN, WE WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER FORWARDDALLAS WAS IN PLACE TO HAVE THAT LAND USE GUIDANCE IN PLACE TO SEE WHERE THOSE INCONSISTENCIES WERE TO ACTUALLY GIVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN UPDATED LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF CHANGE WERE.
OKAY. AND LOOKING AT THE LIST OF PENDING CASES, I NOTICED THAT NUMBER 8, PD 298 SUBAREA 9 HAS BEEN PAUSED, BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN CONSULTED ABOUT THAT.
SO I'M CURIOUS IF YOU CAN ENLIGHTEN US AS TO WHY THAT WAS PAUSED.
WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IS THAT IT GOT VERY CONTENTIOUS WHEN THE ACTUAL NOTICES STARTED TO GET MAILED OUT AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT. THE WHY AND HOW TO REALLY HANDLE THE ISSUES, AND THAT MAYBE THE ISSUES WERE MOVING BEYOND WHAT WAS INITIALLY AUTHORIZED. SO I THINK WE HAD TO REEL IT IN.
THE PERSON THAT WAS WORKING ON THIS CASE HAD SINCE LEFT THE CITY.
BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT STARTED TO GET VERY CONTENTIOUS.
WELL, I WOULD REQUEST IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU TALK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THAT DISTRICT OR DISTRICTS, IN THIS CASE, ABOUT THAT STATUS, SO THAT WE'RE NOT BLINDSIDED BY A REPORT LIKE THIS THAT SHOWS UP CODED, PAUSED, AND I CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY. I REALLY THINK THAT DECISION NEEDS TO BE WITH THE CONSULTATION OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER.
ANOTHER ONE I NOTICED NOW LISTED AS 14, THE MCKINNEY LATE NIGHT SUP HAS DROPPED FROM WHEN IT WAS RANKED NUMBER 11, AND IT IS NOW OVER THREE YEARS OLD. AND I'M CURIOUS WHY IT REGRESSED INSTEAD OF PROGRESSED IN THE LIST.
SO I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
AND SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MAKING A DETERMINATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD PROCEED WITH THROUGH ZONING, THROUGH LATE NIGHT OVERLAYS OR ADDRESSING HOURS WITHIN THE ZONING.
SO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAD MADE SOME DETERMINATIONS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WITH THEM. AND I THINK WE CAN REGROUP AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN PROCEED UNDER HOW IT WAS AUTHORIZED. WELL, I LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
SO YOU INDICATED THAT THE PROCESS OF THE RANKING SYSTEM IS IN FLUX OR IN PROGRESS. WHAT ARE YOU. WHAT DO YOU ENVISION AS THE END POINT FOR THOSE CHANGES? IT'S SETTLED NOW. WE HAVE A PROCESS. IT'S BASED OFF OF THOSE FIVE, THE NEW RANKINGS THAT I HAD TALKED ABOUT, THOSE FIVE DIFFERENT RANKINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MAPPED EVERY AREA OF THE CITY.
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WE'VE TAKEN IN A AS MUCH DATA AS WE CAN FIND FOR ALL OF THOSE WE'VE LOOKED AT.WE'VE SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT THEM FROM THE DIFFERENT THEMES WITHIN FORWARDDALLAS.
HOUSING ACCESSIBILITY, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND I THINK I'M MISSING ONE. BUT LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THOSE LENSES, IF AN AREA WERE TO COME IN, DOES IT MEET ANY OF THESE, SORT OF IS IT ADDRESSING ANY OF THESE ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN FORWARDDALLAS AND OR ANY OTHER ADOPTED PLANS WITHIN THE CITY? HOW IS IT ADDRESSING? IS IT ADDRESSING SOME OTHER ADOPTED POLICY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE CITY? A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHEN THERE SEEMED TO BE A REAL BOTTLENECK IN HANDLING THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, I MET WITH THE PLANNING STAFF AND ALSO THE CITY MANAGER TO SUGGEST SOME APPROACHES TO EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS TO STREAMLINE IT. AND APPARENTLY NOTHING HAS HAPPENED IN THAT CONNECTION.
THAT INCLUDED HIRING OF AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO ASSIST STAFF IN PROCESSING APPLICATIONS.
YOU DID MENTION FREESE AND NICHOLS IS UNDER CONTRACT.
WE EXPANDED THEIR CONTRACT. WHAT WE DID, WE TALKED ABOUT A PRIVATE.
WE LOOKED AT IT EVERY WHICH WAY. WE CAN'T REALLY.
BECAUSE WE ARE ZONING. THE CITY HAS ZONING AUTHORITY, RIGHT? AND THE ONLY REASON WHY WE CAN ZONE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES IS BECAUSE WE ARE THE CITY.
WE LOOKED AT IT EVERY WHICH WAY OF, YES, WE TALKED ABOUT.
IT BECOMES VERY MUCH A GRAY AREA WHEN YOU'RE ASKING A PRIVATE CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND BE LOOKING AT OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES´ ZONING WHEN IT'S NOT THE CITY, BUT THEY'RE DOING THAT UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, SO THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY TO DO THAT.
YES, WE CAN USE THAT CONTRACT. THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO WAS TO SORT OF HIRE OUT SOMEBODY INDIVIDUALLY TO DO THAT, TO HELP, LIKE A SEPARATE RFP, TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND HELP WITH SOME OF THESE.
ANOTHER IDEA THAT I PROPOSED WAS, LOOKING AT THE TIME FRAMES TO GOVERN THE AUTHORIZED HIRING PROCESS, SPECIFICALLY PLACING TIME LIMITS ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STEPS, RESTRICTING INTAKE BY REQUIRING APPLICANTS TO PROVIDE A PETITION WITH A MINIMUM NUMBER OF PROPERTY OWNERS´ SIGNATURES THAT SUPPORTED THE AUTHORIZED HEARING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THOSE IDEAS AND WHETHER THEY COULD STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS? I MEAN, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER WEST COULD ADD IN.
I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE TO SAY, YES, WE'RE DOING THIS IN THREE MEETINGS.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT SPECIFICALLY SAYS AND IT WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED, BUT WE'VE TRIED THAT. AND I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, AS YOU'VE SEEN US, ESPECIALLY GOING THROUGH THE WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN, AUTHORIZED HEARINGS. I MEAN, FOR ONE OF THEM, WE ENDED UP DOING 15, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL FOLKS WHO SAID, WE THINK YOU NEED MORE. SO WE WE CAN'T MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
THE PETITION WE ACTUALLY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THAT.
WE FLOATED THAT AS AN OPTION WHEN WE DISCUSSED THE POSTPONEMENTS CODE AMENDMENT.
IT DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE. SO THOSE. WE'VE EXPLORED THOSE OPTIONS.
I'M SORRY. DIDN'T GET ANYWHERE WITH WHOM? WELL, IT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POSTPONEMENTS CODE AMENDMENT TO TRY TO SPEED SOME OF THESE THINGS UP.
WE HAD MADE THE RECOMMENDATION, WELL, HOW ABOUT PEOPLE SIGN A PETITION? IF THEY SIGN A PETITION WITH X AMOUNT OF SIGNATURES OR OR WHATEVER PERCENTAGE OF SIGNATURES THAT IT MIGHT BE, CAN THEN WE NOT GO THROUGH THAT. THE, YOU KNOW.
CAN WE HAVE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE GOING THROUGH THE POSTPONEMENT PROCESS? IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. WELL, IT NEVER GOT TO CITY COUNCIL.
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I KNOW THAT MUCH. IT DID GET TO CITY COUNCIL.WE HAD THE CONVERSATION AT CITY COUNCIL. WELL, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT ZONING PROTESTS, NOT ABOUT PETITIONS FOR AUTHORIZED HEARINGS. AND SO THIS WAS JUST A STAFF DECISION NOT TO PURSUE THAT? WE TALKED. I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH THE BODY.
I DON'T. I MEAN, AND HERE'S THE THING, IF. YES, IF WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO SIGN ON TO IT, IT CAN STILL GET TO CPC OR CITY COUNCIL. AND I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WANT.
I MEAN, IT'S PART OF EVEN WITH AREA PLANS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THE ENGAGEMENT INVOLVED. EXACTLY, AND THAT THERE WILL BE SUPPORT FOR A CHANGE. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FOR THE CITY TO WASTE A LOT OF RESOURCES FOR A PLAN THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE POPULAR AND WON'T BE ACCEPTED BY THE RESIDENTS. AND SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE AN OPTION THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS ARE GOING TO PROCEED, NOT STALL ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTENTIOUS AND HAVE SOME POSSIBLE CHANCE OF ADOPTION. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.
I REALLY COULDN'T. I MEAN, PART OF THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL AUTHORIZED HEARINGS THAT IN THE PAST WE'VE TRIED TO CHANGE, WE HAVE CHANGED. WE ACTUALLY NOW ASK FOR A PURPOSE STATEMENT.
WHY ARE WE DOING THIS AUTHORIZED HEARING AND WHO WANTS IT? BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT. SO WE HAVE SOME OF THESE ON THE LIST THAT NOBODY'S ASKED FOR.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A PURPOSE STATEMENT. SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CHANGED. AND I WOULD SUGGEST IN THAT SITUATION, YOU ADD THAT CRITERIA TO YOUR UPDATED RANKINGS SO THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER WHETHER THERE'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON THAT IS ASKING.
PART OF IT IS, WHAT IS THE ENGAGEMENT? PART OF IT IS, WHO WANTS THIS? BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER TOO. WE'RE DIFFERENTIATING.
THIS IS A CITY INITIATED BECAUSE THE CITY THINKS THAT THIS AREA NEEDS TO BE REZONED.
STAFF ISN'T DECIDING THIS. THESE GET INITIATED BY CITY PLAN COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL.
WELL, AND THAT'S WHEN THAT SHOULD BE REQUIRED BEFORE IT GOES TO THE VOTE AT THE PLAN COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THERE BE EVIDENCE OF A PETITION OF A CERTAIN MINIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE OR PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS WHO WANT THIS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T.
I MEAN, THREE PEOPLE AT CITY PLAN COMMISSION CAN SIGN ON TO SOMETHING AND CAN BE INITIATED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR WEST. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE HAVING THIS PRESENTATION TODAY. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, THE PENDING CASES ON SLIDE 12 ARE ALL.
THEY'VE BEEN SHUFFLED BASICALLY TO CORRESPOND WITH THE NEW RANKING? YES. OKAY. SO IF YOU HAVE A NEW CASE THAT'S FILED.
AND I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE TEN. AND YOU HAVE THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES, WHO ASSIGNS THE POINTS AND HOW MANY POINTS ARE ASSIGNED FOR EACH OF THE FIVE CATEGORIES? IT SEEMS PRETTY SUBJECTIVE UNLESS IT'S GOING TO BE LAID OUT IN A REALLY CLEAR WAY, YOU KNOW? AND WE HAVE. I MEAN, WE HAVE IT IN A LEVEL OF DETAIL AND WE WILL ADD THIS TO THE WEBSITE.
WE HAVE A LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WILL MAKE YOUR EYES CROSS.
OKAY. IT'S WEIGHTED. IT'S BASED ON. WE CAN SHOW YOU ALL THE DATA.
THERE'S A REALLY AGGRESSIVE SPREADSHEET THAT WE HAVE OF ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, IS IT IN THERE A LITTLE BIT? IS IT IN THERE A LOT? DOES IT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS.
SO WE'LL MAKE THAT AVAILABLE. WE'LL PUT THAT IN THERE.
IT IS ACTUALLY. THE LEVEL OF ANALYSIS THAT GOES INTO IT, AND THE WEIGHTING OF IT IS.
WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE SUBJECTIVITY OF IT OUT, BECAUSE UP UNTIL THIS POINT, IT RELATIVELY HAS, ESPECIALLY WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE WERE RANKING THINGS AND 50% OF THE CASES HAD ZERO POINTS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEM HAD THREE. SO IT BECAME VERY DIFFICULT.
AND MOST OF THOSE DIDN'T HAVE LAND USE TO ZONING ISSUES.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT'S WHY. WHAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, I ACTUALLY DON'T.
I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN EVERYBODY LOOKS AT THIS, THEY GET ANGSTY.
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AND I THINK SOME OF THEM. I MEAN, IF NOBODY'S RAISED A PEEP, IF THEY'VE BEEN ON THIS LIST SINCE 2018 AND NOBODY'S RAISED A PEEP LIKE FROM THE COMMUNITY OR THOSE WHO WHOSE PROPERTIES ARE IN HERE, DO WE NEED THEM TO BE A CITY INITIATED REZONING? BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A CITY INITIATED REZONING DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T DO A PRIVATE REZONING IN THE INTERIM. I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN THAT BAD OF SHAPE.SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET A LOT OF THESE CLEARED OUT, LIKE THE NEXT ROUND OF FIVE, CLEARED OUT, AND THEN TALK THROUGH WHAT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WORK THROUGH WHAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO DO.
AND I THINK WE'RE NOT IN THAT BAD OF SHAPE. OKAY.
I GUESS THE SCENARIO. AND THAT ALL MAKES SENSE.
THE SCENARIO I'M TRYING TO AVOID IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LEAVING YOU SOON. AND LET'S JUST SAY FOR YEARS THE STAFF'S ALL DIFFERENT COUNSELS, ALL DIFFERENT. AND THEN YOU HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO COMES IN AND SAYS, WELL, I WANT MY CASE MOVED UP. YEAH. IS THERE A FAIR MECHANISM YOU CAN SHOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, HERE'S HOW YOUR CASE WAS SCORED AND HERE'S WHY WE CAN'T MOVE YOU UP.
WE DO HAVE THAT. AND SO WE CAN. SO STAFF HAS ALL OF THAT INFORMATION I DIDN'T DO THE.
I MEAN THEY LIKE DID. THEY REALLY PUT TOGETHER BASED ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THEMES AND FORWARDDALLAS, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ADOPTED POLICIES WITHIN THE CITY, ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT TARGET AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT AND A SCORING AND WEIGHTING MECHANISM. SO THAT WILL BE ABLE. AND WHAT WE MADE SURE TO DO IS THAT IT'S PUBLIC AND IT CAN GET CARRIED ON.
AND IF ANY OF US LEAVE THE NEXT DAY, THE DEPARTMENT HAS IT.
WE'RE AT A GOOD SPOT OF WE'VE CLEANED EVERYTHING THROUGH.
WE HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THOSE THAT ARE REMAINING, AND WHEN A NEW ONE COMES IN, IT'S READY TO GO.
WE HAVE SOMEBODY READY TO GO WITH IT. OKAY. I LIKE THAT.
AND THEN MR. RIDLEY MADE SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS A LITTLE MORE STREAMLINED, HOW WE CAN. IF THERE'S NOT PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPORTING IT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT? AND WE WENT THROUGH THE TRENCHES FOR YEARS ON WOCAP.
AND YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE SIX. FIVE OF THOSE WERE THE WOCAP CASES AND THEY WERE ALL EXTREMELY DIFFERENT CASES, AND THEY ALL TOOK SO LONG. YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT WHEN THEY WERE AUTHORIZED VERSUS WHEN THEY KICKED OFF, A LOT OF THAT WAS BECAUSE OF COVID. BUT WE RAN INTO THE SITUATION ON THE LAST ONE, WHICH WAS THE MOST HOT UP HERE.
AND BUT THEY WERE. BUT YOU HAD A LOT OF NEIGHBORS WHO WERE, THEY JUST WERE SCARED OF, LIKE THE RAMIFICATIONS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND SOME OF THE ACTIVISTS THAT DIDN'T EVEN LIVE IN THE DISTRICT THAT CAME OUT HERE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PERFECT FORMULA FOR SAYING YOU HAVE TWO MONTHS TO DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, OR YOU CAN ONLY DO FOUR MEETINGS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
I JUST. LIKE BECAUSE EVERY CASE IS SO DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
WHAT I WOULD. SO ONE RECOMMENDATION. AND I MEAN, I'VE MENTIONED THIS.
SO THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW. I'VE MENTIONED IT IN PASSING OVER THE YEARS IS, COUNCIL ALWAYS.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY MAKES SENSE. I MEAN, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE RIGHT QUESTIONS TO BE HAVING, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE AUTHORIZED BY CPC, AND CPC DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE IMPACT ON. THEY'RE NOT INVOLVED IN OUR BUDGET.
BUT ALSO AS FAR AS AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN IT GETS TO YOU, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOMETIMES A DISCONNECT FROM WHEN IT GOT AUTHORIZED TO WHEN IT GETS TO YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT I MIGHT RECOMMEND, IS THAT IF.
AND THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE IN PROCEDURE, IS THAT IF IT IS GOING TO BE AUTHORIZED AT CPC, THAT'S FINE, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD GO TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL SO THAT YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON AND POTENTIALLY AT THE COUNCIL ROOM,
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WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, IS THERE THE ENGAGEMENT? IS THERE ENOUGH SUPPORT FOR THIS? YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE, WHO WANTS THIS? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THIS? HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT CAN TAKE? AND WE CAN SORT OF DO SOME GROUND SETTING AT THE COUNCIL AREA WHEN WE'RE AUTHORIZING THESE TO SAY, I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE 6 TO 9 MONTHS, WE THINK THERE MIGHT BE CHALLENGES HERE.HERE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE GOING ON.
OR THE BOUNDARY IS ENORMOUS. WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT ADJUSTING THE BOUNDARY TO TARGET X AREA.
IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. IT WOULD BE A PROCEDURAL CHANGE, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR SOME GROUND SETTING IF IT DOES GET AUTHORIZED BY CPC, THAT AT LEAST CITY COUNCIL IS TAKING A LOOK AT IT AND HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR DIALOG.
I'M SORRY, CITY COUNCIL. I LOVE THAT IDEA. I THINK THERE'S BUDGET IMPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BECAUSE IF WE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MY FIVE CASES TOOK A LOT OF STAFF TIME AND BUDGET, JUST LIKE FLORAL FARMS WAS A HUGE ACREAGE.
THE PROPOSED TIMELINE, HOW MUCH STAFF IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED TO IT, THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST FOR YOU TO NOTICE IT.
ALL OF THOSE FACTORS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT OUR BUDGET OTHERWISE.
AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO BE, YOU KNOW, TRANSPARENT, TO HAVE A TRANSPARENT CONVERSATION OF FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SAY, OKAY, GIVEN THE RANKINGS, THIS IS WHERE IT ENDS UP IN THE RANKING SO THAT YOU ALL CAN UNDERSTAND EITHER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON IT IMMEDIATELY, OR TWO, IT MAY TAKE TWO YEARS.
AND THEN AT THAT TIME, YOU ALL CAN ASK US, WELL, WHY TWO YEARS? AND YOU COULD DECIDE AS A BODY THAT. OKAY, I GET YOUR RANKINGS SAY TWO YEARS, BUT WE THINK THIS IS IMMEDIATE ISSUE.
WE'RE DIRECTING YOU TO DO THIS NEXT. YOU COULD DO THAT IF IT WAS AT THE COUNCIL.
WE CAN'T DO THAT IF IT'S LEFT AT THE CPC LEVEL.
THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR.
OF COURSE YOU KNOW I HAVE QUESTIONS. I DO. LET ME START WITH WHAT YOU JUST LEFT OFF WITH.
WHEN WOULD YOU SEND IT TO COUNCIL? WOULD THAT BE BEFORE CPC OR APPROVAL OR AFTER? IT WOULD BE AFTER. SO IF CPC WANTED TO AUTHORIZE, SAY, THEY GOT THEIR THREE SIGNATURE MEMO, WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR CPC. THEY WOULD BE MAKING.
YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A ZONING CASE OR A PLAN.
OKAY. LET ME GO TO ANOTHER EASY QUESTION. IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADD THE SCORING ON ANY LIST SO WE KNOW, OKAY, THIS. LET'S SAY CLEVELAND RILEY, THEY SCORED A TWO.
YES. AND EVERYBODY ELSE SCORED A 55. WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
YEP. NOW LET ME GO TO, ON SLIDE 12. NOW LET'S DROP DOWN TO SLIDE SIX FIRST.
I THINK THAT AND I UNDERSTAND COVID WAS IN THE MIDDLE BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT.
STAFF IS LOOKING AT THE START AND THE TOTAL TIME DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD.
YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE START AT THE KICKOFF WHEN THE REST OF THE WORLD LOOKS AT THE START, WHEN IT WAS AUTHORIZED. YEP. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY DO YOU GUYS DO IT THAT WAY AS OPPOSED TO WHEN THE REST OF THE WORLD UNDERSTANDS THE START DATE WOULD BE? SO THIS IS. WHAT YOU SEE ON SLIDE SIX IS THE PREVIOUS RANKING.
HOW IT FUNCTIONED UNDER THE PREVIOUS RANKING.
AND THE OLDEST ONES PRETTY MUCH RANKED ZERO. AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST WILL REMEMBER THIS.
I MEAN, THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON TO DO AN AREA PLAN, BECAUSE IF YOU DID AN AREA PLAN, YOU GOT AN AUTOMATIC 20 POINTS OR 50 POINTS OR SOMETHING AND YOU MOVED UP TO THE TOP. IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT, YOU PRETTY MUCH.
AND SO SOME OF THE AREAS IN YOUR DISTRICT, I MEAN, THE ONLY ONES THAT WERE SCORING POINTS IS IF THEY WERE IN A TIF AREA OR AN EMPOWERMENT ZONE AND YOU WERE GETTING 2 TO 3 POINTS. SO THIS IS WHERE WE WALKED IN.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE HAD A LOT OF THOSE OLDER ONES, WHICH ALLOWED US.
WHEN WE DID THE AREA PLAN, IT ALLOWED US TO GET THROUGH THOSE WOCAP ONES, WHICH WERE OLDER ONES.
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AND SO WE DIDN'T HAVE. THAT IS PART OF IT. SO YES, YOU'VE GOT SOME THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, BUT IT'S BECAUSE IN SOME PART, IT'S BECAUSE OF HOW THE RANKINGS WORKED.AND THOSE WERE ESTABLISHED PROBABLY NOW. I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY THAT WAS DONE BEFORE I STARTED.
SO I THINK THOSE WERE ESTABLISHED ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO.
THEY TRIED TO FIGURE OUT. BECAUSE IT WAS A PROBLEM, THERE WAS A GROWING LIST. AND I WILL SAY THIS, PART OF THE BACKLOG DUE, AUTHORIZATIONS NEVER STOP.
SO IT'S HARD TO GET THROUGH THE CYCLE BECAUSE THE AUTHORIZATIONS ARE NEVER STOPPING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE RANKING THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY WAS TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH THAT BACKLOG.
OR I SHOULD SAY, THE OLDER CASES. OKAY. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
LET'S GO TO MY THREE. YEP. EAST AND WEST KLEBERG.
SO, KLEBERG RILEY. THEY WERE AUTHORIZED IN 2020.
THEY ARE A BLEND OF OF INAPPROPRIATE INDUSTRIAL WITH RESIDENTIAL.
WHEN YOU YOU LOOKED AT ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND SUSTAINABILITY, THEY ARE THE EPITOME OF THAT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND, YOU KNOW, POST RANKING, UPDATED RANKING, THEY HIT TWO MAJOR MILESTONES FOR RANKING. BUT THEY WERE NEVER. IT'S JUST NOW AFTER ALMOST FIVE YEARS? BECAUSE WE RANKED, AND YOU HAD A PLAN.
SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. IT HAS A PLAN.
AND IN THE PLAN IT SAID IT SHOULD BE REEVALUATED EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND THAT PLAN, WAS IT TEN YEARS OLD? SO IT'S TWICE ITS PLAN CYCLE.
SO DOES THAT NOT LEND ITSELF TO BE REEVALUATED OR OR RESCORED AT A HIGHER SCORING? I WILL TELL YOU, PREVIOUSLY I THINK THE KLEBERGS GOT A ZERO.
THEY WERE ONE OF THE AREAS, THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS UNDER THE PREVIOUS RANKINGS THAT RANKED ZERO.
AND BECAUSE THE PLAN THAT WAS IN PLACE BEFORE WAS AN OLDER PLAN, THEY WERE OLDER PLANS.
SO NOW, AS YOU SEE, THEY'RE MOVED UP TO BEING SOME OF THE NEXT AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
WOULD THAT BE THE SAME FOR THE WHEATLAND DANIEL DALE? IT TOO IS RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL, RETAIL ALL IN ONE SPOT.
WOULD THAT BE THE SAME THING, THAT IT'S MOVING UP BECAUSE OF THE UPDATED RANKINGS? THAT IS IN PART BECAUSE THE ZONING IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE.
OKAY. SO LET ME ALSO ASK YOU ABOUT, ON SLIDE SEVEN, THE FIVE CURRENTLY ON HOLD, ONE BEING THE VALLEY VIEW GALLERIA.
THAT ISN'T THAT PART OF A BARBELL TIF? AND WOULD THAT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A HIGHER RANKING BECAUSE IT IS PART OF A BARBELL TIF? THAT'S NOT WEIGHTED AS HEAVILY NOW. AND AGAIN, BEING ON HOLD DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING FORWARD.
IT'S, AGAIN, WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH.
WE HAD PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS. AND SO AGAIN, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS CHANGE, ARE YOU TALKING THE PD 887 VALLEY VIEW? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? I'M SORRY? WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE VALLEY VIEW? THE PD 887? YES. YEAH THAT WAS. AGAIN WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER.
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BUT THAT WAS A CONVERSATION WHERE WE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE ISSUES, THE ZONING ISSUES.THERE WAS SOME CARRYOVER. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY EVEN RECENTLY.
SO NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS EVEN NECESSARY, BECAUSE WHAT I LAST UNDERSTOOD IS, WHAT WAS BEING LOOKED AT FOR THE ZONING, THE PROPERTY OWNER MAY NOT BE INTERESTED IN PURSUING, SO WE MAY NOT BE PURSUING THE AUTHOR. SO AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE.
OKAY. SO I'M ALL FOR THE COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL.
WE REALLY SHOULD HAVE AN IDEA AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND BECAUSE I KNOW EVEN AS A CPC, I CONSISTENTLY HAVE HAD TO ADDRESS TO THE KLEBERG, HOW COME I'M GETTING ZONING THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT AND NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR AREA PLAN AND HOW TO MOVE IT FORWARD. GETTING IT BECAUSE.
YEAH. THANK YOU. I HEAR YOU. CHAIR GRACEY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HOPE WE WEREN'T BEING A DISTRACTION. I DO APOLOGIZE, I WAS TRYING TO GET MY. OKAY, PERFECT. ALL RIGHT, SO LET ME START WITH THE HAMPTON, ILLINOIS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET SOME BACKGROUND ON BECAUSE I THOUGHT, OR THE WESTMORELAND, ILLINOIS DARK STATION. YES. SO THE STATUS ON THAT ONE.
AND HOW DO WE. BECAUSE THAT'S ONE I'D LIKE TO SEE ADDED BACK FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS TO REENGAGE? JUST SO I'M CLEAR ON ALL OF THIS.
SO THE PROCESS IS LIKE, LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND STAFF.
YOU GOT IT. AND SO WE CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT THE TIMING OF THAT LOOKS LIKE, HOW WE WOULD IDEALLY BE HANDLING THAT, WHICH MAY BE A LESS STRAINING PROCESS FOR EVERYONE IF WE GO THAT ROUTE.
BUT LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT FOR SURE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND ON SLIDE SIX, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WAS CLEAR ON THE ANSWER.
ON WHICH SLIDE? SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THE TIME IT'S AUTHORIZED AND THE KICK OFF? WHAT HAPPENS IN BETWEEN THAT WINDOW? BECAUSE I WENT THROUGH AND DID. YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE, IT'S ABOUT 3.8 YEARS. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE WERE SIX YEARS IN BETWEEN.
FIVE YEARS IN BETWEEN. WHAT HAPPENS FROM THE TIME IT'S AUTHORIZED TO KICK OFF, OR WHAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING IN A PERFECT WORLD TO MAKE THAT WINDOW SMALLER? SO YOU GET SCORED. SO WHEN WE GET. SO WHEN AN AUTHORIZED HERE.
WHEN A REQUEST COMES IN, WHEN IT GETS APPROVED AT EITHER CPC OR CITY COUNCIL, IT GOES INTO.
AND SO ALL OF THESE ONES ON THE LIST WENT INTO THE OLD RANKINGS, THE OLD SCORING SYSTEM.
AND DEPENDING ON HOW IT SCORED ON THOSE, YOU KNOW, FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS, THAT'S WHERE YOU FELL WITHIN YOUR RANKINGS. AND SO IF YOU SCORED A ZERO, YOU WERE TOWARD THE END.
IF YOU SCORED 20 POINTS, YOU WERE RAISED UP IN THE QUEUE.
BECAUSE THE RANKINGS WERE, THIS IS A MORE URGENT AUTHORIZED HEARING VERSUS, SAY, THIS ONE.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT MY OPINION. IT'S JUST. SURE, I UNDERSTAND, YEAH.
AND SO IT WAS A MATTER OF WE CAN ONLY DO SO MANY PER YEAR.
SO LAST YEAR WE DID SIX, WHICH IS A LOT OF BIG AREA REZONINGS.
AND ESPECIALLY FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT'S INVOLVED IN THAT.
AND SO WE GOT THROUGH SIX LAST YEAR AND AGAIN, THEN WE GO THROUGH ANOTHER CYCLE OF NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT TAKING THE NEXT FIVE, BUT MAYBE BEING ABLE TO WORK THROUGH A FEW OF THEM IN DIFFERENT WAYS, FARM OUT A COUPLE OF THEM, POTENTIALLY DE-AUTHORIZE A COUPLE OF THEM TO SHRINK THE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE CAN DEAL WITH IT THROUGH CODE REFORM OR ANOTHER PROCESS.
SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT GETS RANKED AND IT FALLS IN.
SO IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST TAKE THIS FIRST ONE AGAIN.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, OR WHOSE DISTRICTS. I'M NOT PICKING ON ANYONE. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THAT FIRST ONE BECAUSE IT WAS AUTHORIZED NOVEMBER 2018, KICKED OFF IN APRIL 2024, AND IT WAS A SIX YEAR WINDOW IN BETWEEN THAT, SO THAT.
I JUST. OH, I HEAR YOU. I MEAN, IT WAS. AND THAT'S WHAT IT.
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I WOULD SAY IN 2018 IT WAS SCORED, IT SCORED A ZERO.GOT IT. THERE WAS NOTHING ON OUR RANKING SYSTEM THAT SAID THIS NEEDS TO BE RANKED HIGHER.
SO THEN WE STARTED AN AREA PLAN FOR THAT. AND THAT AREA PLAN TOOK TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
GOT THAT ADOPTED, AND THEN WE MOVED RIGHT INTO THOSE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE WAS COVID IN BETWEEN.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT GETS RANKED LOW, IT'S NOT THAT IT DOESN'T PROCEED.
IT JUST GETS MOVED TO THE BOTTOM OF.
OR WHAT WERE THEY CONTRACTED FOR? THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON BASIC PRIVATE ZONING CASES.
I WILL TELL YOU. AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR FREESE NICHOLS. YEAH. THEY ARE A LITTLE.
THESE ARE NOT STANDARD ZONING CASES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE CITY.
IT'S SOMETIMES MANY, MANY PROPERTIES. AND THERE'S JUST A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DYNAMIC TO IT THAT IS NOT LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL ZONING CASE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER TRYING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY'RE WILLING TO EXPLORE HELPING WITH SOME OF THESE CASES, BUT THERE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE IN THAT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUT WITH SOME OF THESE.
AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HELP WITH US BEFORE BECAUSE THEY WERE WORKING ON THE PRIVATE ZONING CASES, THEY HAD STAFFING ISSUES. AND SO NOW THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THE STAFFING TO HELP OUT WITH US, SO WE WANT TO JUMP ON THAT. OKAY. AND THEN GOING TO SLIDE TEN, I KNOW YOU SAID IT.
NUMBER THREE MAJOR BOND CAPITAL PROJECT. LIKE EXPLAIN THAT TO ME, MAJOR PROJECT THAT MAY IMPACT.
I MEAN, I THINK IF IF WE HAVE CERTAIN AREAS, LIKE I'M THINKING OF CORRIDORS, IF WE HAVE A CORRIDOR WHERE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FINALLY DOING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF THAT RESTRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE TURNING THE CORRIDOR, SAY, INTO MORE OF LIKE A MIXED MODAL CORRIDOR.
IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ZONING AND THE LAND USES ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT CORRIDOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY MATCH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ZONING AND THE REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OR NOT, MATCHES THAT INVESTMENT ON THE STREET. AND IS THERE A RANK FOR LIKE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT? IS THAT? YES, THAT WE HAVE THAT FACTORED INTO SOME OF OUR RANKINGS.
PERFECT. ALL RIGHT THEN. THE LAST QUESTION, JUST GOING BACK TO THIS COMMUNITY MEETING, IS THERE A BEST PRACTICE FOR KIND OF HOW LONG OR HOW MANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS? IS THERE A BEST PRACTICE FOR THAT? YEAH. AND I GET THIS ANSWER ALL.
I MEAN, I GET THIS ANSWER ALL THE TIME. AND I WILL SAY AGAIN, THE SORT OF BEST PRACTICE, IF YOU HAVE A RELATIVELY RECENTLY ADOPTED PLAN, IT'S PROBABLY 3 TO 4 MEETINGS BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE IN THE PLAN WHAT SAYS YOU SHOULD BE FOR THIS AREA.
WE HAD 15 COMMUNITY MEETINGS. YEAH. AND SO IT.
REALLY IT'S HARD, I WOULD SAY THREE PROBABLY, UNLESS YOU HAVE A REALLY SMALL AREA, I WOULD SAY REALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICE BETWEEN 3 AND 5.
OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT HERE, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT STUCK WITH ME, AND THAT'S JUST THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND SENIOR PLANNERS AND, YOU KNOW, JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH. SO I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW, MAKING A NOTE TO ANYBODY THAT'S LISTENING HR SOMETHING.
JUST TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, WE LOSE A LOT OF SENIOR PLANNERS TO THE SUBURBS.
BECAUSE IT IS, I MEAN, I LOVE IT, I LOVE THE PACE, I LOVE THE ISSUES, I LOVE THE BACK AND FORTH.
FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, IT'S HARD. I UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CADENA. YEAH, THANK YOU, ANDREA, FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
I KNOW IT WAS SUPER HELPFUL TO ME BECAUSE MINE IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT JUST STARTED.
BUT I WAS THINKING, I DON'T KNOW IF GETTING COUNCIL APPROVAL WOULD HAVE HELPED SO MUCH IN MY CASE.
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I'M KIND OF THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY AND YOU KNOW, ABOUT OUR STAFF AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP STABILIZE THAT, BECAUSE I THINK FOR D6 IT WOULD HAVE ADDED ANOTHER LAYER.YOU KNOW, THIS CASE WAS AUTHORIZED IN 2022 BY MRS CARPENTER.
AND THEN THE FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAD WAS THIS PAST MONTH.
SO IT TOOK ABOUT THREE YEARS. YOU KNOW, AND NOW THERE'S A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER.
THE GOOD THING IS, I WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE CASE, BUT THE PROCESS HAD CHANGED FROM WHEN WE HAD GONE THROUGH ELM THICKET, NORTH PARK, AND ALSO THE SINGLETON, CHICAGO AUTHORIZED HEARING.
AND ALSO BECAUSE THEY WOULD GET TO KNOW THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR, I THINK, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SEE FAMILIAR FACES, IF POSSIBLE.
ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE THEY BUILD THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
AND SO I'M HESITANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE STOPPED WITHIN A MONTH OR TWO.
BECAUSE I ALSO KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE CAN COME UP WITH GOOD COMPROMISES.
BUT WE DO HAVE TO ALSO KEEP, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS MOVING, RIGHT? AND THEN I KNOW JUST IN SOME OF THE CASES WITH D6, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WE REZONE THROUGH THE AUTHORIZED HEARING, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT INDUSTRY IS GOING TO CHANGE QUICKLY ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
BUT THOSE CHANGES, I MEAN, THEY COULD BE YEARS IN THE COMING, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. SO AND MY ONLY OTHER SUGGESTION WOULD BE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNICATION WITH CPC AND COUNCIL ARE BOTH, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, THAT WAS DONE IN OUR CASE, I THINK MRS. CARPENTER HAS BEEN A PART OF THAT PROCESS. SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BOTH UP TO SPEED ON WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. SO, THANK YOU.
COUNCILMEMBER ROTH. THANK YOU. I'M NEW TO THIS SUBJECT, SO MY QUESTIONS MAY BE NAIVE AND THEY MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT THIS PROCESS IS REALLY STAFF INITIATED PRIMARILY, THAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING WE'RE LOOKING AT ZONING AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND, AND THEN YOU'RE SAYING WE THINK THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE SOMETHING HERE.
IT'S NOT AT ALL INITIATED BY US. WE CAN'T INITIATE ANY.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE IN WHICH OF THESE AREAS HAVE BEEN INITIATED.
MAYBE INITIATED IS THE WRONG WORD, BUT THAT IT'S RECOMMENDED OR THAT IT'S ADVISED OR IT'S RECOMMENDED AND OR IS IT COMING FROM SOMEPLACE ELSE? WHO IS SUGGESTING THAT YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE ZONING? THE CITY IS. EITHER CPC OR CITY COUNCIL. CITY PLAN COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO FOLKS THAT CAN DO IT. ONLY TWO BODIES.
IT SOUNDS. AND SO MAYBE I'M MISSING A STEP, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF THE CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR DISTRICT BEFORE THE PROCESS IS STARTING. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS.
IF YOU ALL HAVE A. IF YOU SAY, LOOK, THE ZONING IN THIS AREA LOOKS LIKE IT'S MOSTLY INDUSTRIAL, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF INPUT ABOUT RESIDENTIAL.
IS THAT INITIAL RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM ME AS THE CITY COUNCIL PERSON OR THE CPC COMMISSIONER? THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE, I WOULD SAY 85%, MAYBE 90%, WERE INITIATED BY A CITY PLAN.
IF THAT'S NOT HAPPENING, THAT'S WHY I HAD RECOMMENDED THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT IF IT IS GETTING INITIATED AT THE CPC LEVEL, THAT A CITY PLAN COMMISSIONER IS INITIATING AND SAYING WE NEED TO REZONE THIS AREA, THAT IT THEN BE FOLLOWED UP AT CITY COUNCIL, SO THE BODY AS A WHOLE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THAT ONE AUTHORIZED HEARING, THAT ONE CASE MAY FIT INTO ALL OF THIS.
AND JUST TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A VERY CLEAR. I MEAN, BECAUSE, YES, I THINK ALL OF.
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AND SO SOMETIMES IF SOMETHING IS GOING ON IN A DISTRICT, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S IMPACTING THE CITY AS A WHOLE OR YOUR DISTRICT.AND SO I THINK IF WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS AT CITY COUNCIL, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A, OKAY, A REMINDER, THIS IS WHERE IT'S FITTING INTO THE MIX.
SO I'M TENDING TO AGREE WITH YOU, BUT I WOULD SAY IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
I THINK THAT BEFORE ANYTHING WOULD HAPPEN, IT HAS THERE HAS TO BE A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY COUNCILMAN OF THAT DISTRICT TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY FEEL LIKE HAS LEGS, AND BEFORE IT BECOMES A PUBLIC HEARING, BEFORE IT BECOMES A PUBLIC SITUATION, BEFORE WE'RE DISCUSSING.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, HOW CAN I SUGGEST THAT WE RECOMMEND IT AND THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC AND DISCUSS IT? AND SO MY SUGGESTION, IT'S MORE OF A PROCESS SITUATION AND IT'S A MORE OF AN EDUCATION SITUATION.
I'M ASSUMING THEY DO AND I'M SURE MOST DO, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
IT CAN BE INITIATED AT CPC AND END AT CPC UNTIL YOU ALL SEE THE RECOMMENDED CHANGE AT CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS.
FOR A GAP IN THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY.
AND LIKE I HAD SAID AT THE BEGINNING TOO. AND AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO THE COMMITTEE WORK OF DOING IT, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT BE A CHANGE. THE SECOND THING IS THAT AFTER A TIME PERIOD, SEEMS LIKE THERE WOULD BE OUTDATED CRITERIA.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE TIMES CHANGE, THINGS HAPPEN.
SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED SIX YEARS AGO THAT MIGHT BE DOESN'T APPLY ANYMORE.
SO I THINK THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF DEADLINES ON THE PROCESS AND THE COMPLETION OF THIS PROCESS.
AND IF IT DOESN'T HAVE IT, THERE SHOULD BE A SUNSET OR A REEVALUATION AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BECAUSE SOMETIMES A PROCESS THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED IN A DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION, A DIFFERENT COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION, A DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT AND STAFFING ADMINISTRATION, MIGHT NOT BE APPLICABLE NOW.
AND I THINK THAT I AGREE THAT IT SHOULD ALWAYS.
THERE SHOULD BE AN ULTIMATE VETO OR DISCUSSION AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL ULTIMATELY, AFTER THE WHOLE PROJECT IS REALLY BAKED AND HAS ALL THE INFORMATION, NOT PIECEMEALED IN AND NOT PRESSURED IN WHERE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. BECAUSE THESE ARE BIG, BIG CASES. AND LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE COSTLY.
THEY TAKE A LOT OF TIME. THEY'RE INVOLVED A LOT OF THINGS.
AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE INSTIGATED WITHOUT THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND, WHICH I THINK IS THE CITY COUNCILMAN FOR THOSE DISTRICTS HAVING DIRECT INPUT, NOT IN A PUBLIC SETTING, BUT IN AN UNOFFICIAL SETTING.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO NOT BE TRANSPARENT, BUT I'M SAYING THEY KNOW THE DISTRICT AS MUCH OR BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE, AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU ADVICE OR BE ABLE TO SUGGEST THAT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS LEGS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.
AND AGAIN, THESE ARE PROCESS THINGS TO BE THINKING ABOUT.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A DECISION ON IT, BUT A SUGGESTION TO IMPLEMENT THAT IN YOUR PROCESS.
WELL AND I WILL JUST ADDING TO THAT, IT IS UNIQUE HERE THAT A BODY OTHER THAN CITY COUNCIL CAN INITIATE A CITY INITIATED REZONING. IT USUALLY IS ONLY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT HERE WE HAVE CPC SO WE CAN LOOK AT HOW THAT PROCESS GETS ADJUSTED. EVEN IF CPC WANTS TO DO IT, THERE SHOULD BE A STEP BEFORE THAT THAT THERE IS AN ENGAGEMENT INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE CITY COUNCILMAN BEFORE EITHER OF THOSE PROCESSES IS ABSOLUTELY PROCESSED.
IN OTHER WORDS, THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS THAT BEFORE THE SIGNATURE MEMOS ARE APPROVED, THAT THERE HAS TO BE A DISCUSSION WITH THE INDIVIDUAL CITY COUNCIL PERSON.
THE OTHER THING IS, YOU SAY THAT THESE ARE INITIATED REZONINGS THAT ARE FOR INCONSISTENT ZONING CASES INCONSISTENT CURRENT ZONING WITH REGARD TO POTENTIAL FUTURE ZONING.
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AND I THINK THAT THE COMMENT HAS BEEN MADE, AND I AGREE WITH IT, THAT, YOU KNOW, FUTURE ZONING SITUATIONS ARE ALSO NOT NECESSARILY APPROVED ZONING SITUATIONS BY US.THE FORWARDDALLAS IS AN ASPIRATIONAL, IF I UNDERSTAND IT, IT'S AN ASPIRATIONAL ZONING SITUATION.
IT'S NOT A CODIFIED STATUTORY ZONING DEAL. SO THE FACT IS THAT THAT'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE START GOING THROUGH THIS WHOLE BIG PROCESS OF WHAT IS REALLY THE FUTURE ZONING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S MORE COMMUNICATION. I THINK IT'S MORE PROCESS, AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH MAKING THE DECISION AS IT'S HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT DECISION IN A PROPER WAY BEFORE ALL THESE DEADLINES START HAPPENING.
BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME A LOT OF THESE THINGS AREN'T EVEN APPLICABLE ANYMORE MAYBE.
THEY MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE ANYMORE. AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE ON HOLD, AND LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, IF NOBODY'S OBJECTING TO THEM, NOBODY'S SORT OF SEEKING THEM OUT AND NOBODY'S PUSHING THEM.
WHY ARE WE EVEN WORRYING? WHY ARE WE DOING THEM? AND I'M BEING JUST RHETORICAL. SO, YEAH, NO, I THINK THE PROCESS NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
AND UNTIL YOU HAVE THE RIGHT STAFFING, WHAT ARE WE DOING? I MEAN, WHY ARE WE EVEN. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T BAKE THE PIE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE COOK TO DO IT.
SO I THINK I DON'T KNOW HOW WE STOP THIS OR DELAY THIS UNTIL WE GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE SEATS.
NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
NO, NO, THIS ISN'T A SLAM, IF YOU ALL DO A TREMENDOUS JOB.
WE HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF STUFF GOING ON HERE.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE OF LACK OF PEOPLE, THEN WE'VE GOT TO WAIT TILL WE GET THE PEOPLE IN AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT FOLKS, AND YOU'VE GOT TO DO WHAT YOU CAN DO.
NOW, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A REFLECTION ON THE STAFF, AND I HOPE THAT THAT'S NEVER CONSIDERED IN ANY OF OUR COMMENTS THAT WE'RE SLAMMING ANY OF OUR FOLKS. WE HAVE THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST IN OUR SEATS HERE.
AND SO I WANT TO START OFF WITH BEST PRACTICES, AND AS WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES, WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME THAT OTHER CITIES THE SIZE OF DALLAS ARE GOING THROUGH AUTHORIZED HEARINGS? BETWEEN SIX MONTHS AND A YEAR. OKAY. AND SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THE TIMELINES, THE RANKINGS, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THESE ARE RULES OF PROCEDURE CHANGES THAT ARE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL? NOT CPC. SO SOME OF THEM WILL BE CPC RULES OF PROCEDURE CHANGES.
OKAY. AND SO ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO EVALUATE, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD IT FROM STAFF AND I'M HEARING IT FROM A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS TO LOOK AT. THERE'S TWO STEPS, THERE'S EITHER CPC INITIATING OR COUNCIL BEING INITIATED.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT MOST CITIES ARE DOING COUNCIL ONLY, NOT CPC.
AND SO WHILE I'M OPEN TO CPC CONTINUING TO DO THAT, PERHAPS IT SHOULD THE THRESHOLD SHOULD BE INCREASED TO FIVE, OR MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A CPC MEMBER JOINED BY THEIR COUNCIL.
AND SO IF Y'ALL COULD COME BACK TO US WITH A LIST OF WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
AGAIN, NOT TO ADD A STEP TO IT, BUT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE SIMULTANEOUSLY.
YEP. AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE HIRING OF THAT THIRD PARTY, HELP ME UNDERSTAND AGAIN THAT THEY WERE ONLY DOING PRIVATE ZONING CASES, IS THAT ACCURATE? YES. OKAY. AND WHEN WE. I THINK 1 OR 2 YEARS AGO, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH CONTRACT RENEWAL, WE EXPANDED SOME OF THE LANGUAGE TO EXPAND THEIR PURVIEW INTO POTENTIALLY HELPING WITH AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, SO THE PATHWAY HAS BEEN OPENED FOR THAT. OKAY.
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I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE WEBSITE UPDATES. I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE NOW, BUT I THINK THAT'S JUST A REMINDER FOR US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE WEBSITES TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE CHANGING.WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIMELINE AGAIN, WE'RE UP AGAINST A COUPLE OF THINGS, RIGHT? ONE IS THE CHALLENGES WITH NOT HAVING ENOUGH STAFF.
AND SO, ROBIN WHERE ARE WE INTO THE NEXT BUDGET SEASON, LOOKING AT ANY CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF MEMBERS ON THE TEAM? GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE, ROBIN BENTLEY WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I THINK WE HAVE THE CORRECT NUMBER OF POSITIONS. AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING A POSITION IN THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE TO THIS TEAM. LIKE ANDREA SAID, IT'S FILLING THOSE POSITIONS NOW THAT WE'RE INTO THE FISCAL YEAR AND THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, EITHER FINDING TALENTED STAFF FROM OTHER CITIES THAT WE CAN BRING TO DALLAS OR GROWING OUR OWN TALENT TO PROMOTE FOLKS, AND THAT JUST TAKES TIME. BUT I THINK WE HAVE SUFFICIENT STAFF POSITIONS.
WE JUST NEED BODIES. OKAY. AND THEN THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PAUSING OF A AUTHORIZED HEARING, AGAIN, JUST COMMUNICATION WITH BOTH CPC AND COUNCIL SO THAT WE KNOW WHERE WE ARE.
CAN I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION? PLEASE. I WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE FOR THERE NOT TO BE PAUSING.
TO BE PERFECTLY. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE SOME EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES SOMETIMES, BUT IF WE DECIDED TO INITIATE A HEARING. OR MAYBE THERE'S ONE PAUSE, RIGHT? YOU GET UP TO SIX MONTHS TO REEVALUATE DO WE STILL NEED THIS? WHAT'S GOING ON? ARE THERE CHANGING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MAYBE WE DON'T NEED IT ANYMORE? MAYBE WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT IT ON PAUSE FOR, SAY, X PERIOD OF TIME, SIX MONTHS, AND THEN WE HAVE TO REENGAGE. AND THAT WOULD HELP US BE ABLE TO HAVE A MORE PREDICTABLE TIMELINE TO THINGS AS WELL, KNOWING THAT WE GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, OR EITHER ONE, IT'S DEFINITIVELY FALLEN TO THE END OF IT, OR WE'RE DE-AUTHORIZING, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT PATH FORWARD SO WE'RE NOT STOPPING AND STARTING.
SO THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. AND WOULD THAT BE IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AS WELL? I THINK THAT'S JUST AN INTERNAL POLICY THAT WE CAN MAKE AND WE CAN PUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE UPDATING OUR WEBSITE, WE CAN SORT OF PUT SOME OF THESE LIKE FAQS, WHAT, YOU KNOW, NEED TO KNOW KIND OF THING. WE CAN UPDATE THAT.
OKAY. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK OUR COMMITTEE TO DO IS TO REACH OUT TO YOUR TEAM ON RECOMMENDATIONS, WHETHER IT'S HOW LONG THAT PAUSE SHOULD BE, WHETHER THE AUTHORIZATION COMES FROM CPC OR COUNCIL.
ANY OTHER STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ASIDE FROM THOSE TWO.
WE'VE ALSO STARTED ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD MAKE IT REALLY HELPFUL, AND WE'VE STARTED DOING THIS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY. IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED ANYWHERE.
IS PRIOR TO THAT THREE SIGNATURE OR FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO GOING TO WHICHEVER BODY, WE ARE ASKING FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IT'S THE COMMISSIONER TO COME IN.
WE WALK THROUGH THE BOUNDARIES WITH THEM. WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS? WHO IS ON BOARD? WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMISSIONER BECAUSE PART OF THE ISSUE WAS WE HAD ISSUES WITH THE BOUNDARY, LIKE THEY WERE CROSSING BOUNDARIES AND DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OR IT WAS JUST SIMPLY TOO BIG.
AND WHEN YOU START THINKING REALLY BIG, OBVIOUSLY THE BIGGER YOU GET, THE MORE TIME YOU'RE TACKING ON TO IT, INSTEAD OF JUST FOCUSING ON THOSE REALLY KEY ISSUES.
YEAH. AND I'M ALWAYS GOING TO SUPPORT MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MAYBE A MINIMUM AND A MAXIMUM, AND THEN MAYBE WE GO OVER A MAXIMUM, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT OF COMMUNITY.
I GUESS I DON'T KNOW HOW TO. WHAT I CAN SAY, WHAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT, WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FROM YOU ALL. AND ALSO, WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. THERE COMES A CERTAIN POINT, AND I THINK WE SAW THIS IN THE WOCAP ONES ON THE LAST ONE PARTICULARLY, I THINK EVERYBODY WANTED, LIKE THE COMMUNITY WANTED US TO KEEP CHANGING THINGS.
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IT COMES TO A CERTAIN POINT WHERE IT'S OUT OF STAFF'S HANDS, LIKE THEY ALMOST THEY WANTED IT TO STOP.AND WE NEED TO GET IT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL TO, YOU KNOW, SAY YES, NO, TWEAK IT HERE, DO THIS.
AND IF YOU DO WANT US TO GO OUT FOR MORE ENGAGEMENT, YOU CAN DIRECT US TO DO THAT.
BUT SO I THINK TO HELP YOUR SUPPORT IN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SAY WE JUST NEED TO GET THIS.
GREAT. THANK YOU. SO, ROBIN, WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE TO HAVE THIS ITEM PLACED ON THE FUTURE AGENDA COMMITTEE MEETING, PLEASE. I'VE GOT IT. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM B.
SO CHAIRMAN, B, C, AND D ARE ALL BRIEFING MEMOS.
PERFECT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM B? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. EMILY, IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP.
WE DO HAVE A COUPLE. SO THIS WILL BE ANDREA GILLIS AND ARTURO.
COME ON UP, ARTURO. AND LET'S DO THIS. LET'S JUST DO A QUICK TWO MINUTE HIGHLIGHT ON WHAT THE ITEM IS, PLEASE. SURE. SO THIS MEMO, IT'S ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION TAX EXEMPTION PROGRAM, WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1993.
SO IT'S SUNSETTING. SO THE VERY HIGH LEVEL IT IS SUNSETTING AS OF DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR.
SO WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. IT WAS LAST EXTENDED FIVE YEARS AGO.
SINCE 1993, I THINK, THE MAJORITY OF THE EXTENSIONS HAVE BEEN FIVE YEAR EXTENSIONS, SO WE'RE JUST UP WITH UP FOR OUR REGULAR FIVE YEAR EXTENSION FOR CONSIDERATION OF EXTENDING THE PROGRAM.
IT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR STRUCTURES WITHIN HISTORIC DISTRICTS OR LANDMARKED STRUCTURES THAT DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF INVESTMENT THAT THEY PUT INTO THE PROJECT, THERE CAN BE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YOUR TAXES EXEMPTED, ONLY THE CITY TAXES. WE'RE ONLY TALKING CITY PROPERTY TAX FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME, AND IT'S GENERALLY UP TO TEN YEARS, BUT IT'S ANYWHERE DEPENDING ON THE AREA THAT YOU'RE IN, IT'S BETWEEN 5 TO 10 YEARS. AND WHAT SOME OF THE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN IS, YES, THERE IS A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE'RE EXEMPTING THAT PROPERTY OWNER FROM HAVING TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES, AS IT RELATES TO THE VALUE ADD TO THE REHABILITATION OR POTENTIALLY THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE AS IT IS, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH INVESTMENT AND WHAT TYPE OF AREA.
BUT WHAT SOME OF THE DATA IS SHOWING IS THAT THIS PROGRAM BY FAR PAYS FOR ITSELF OVER TIME AND THAT ACTUALLY THE TAXES, ONCE, YOU KNOW, THE TEN YEARS ARE OVER, THEN THE TAXES INCURRED ON THAT PROPERTY AND IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED.
I REMEMBER ONE OF THESE, THE PITTMAN HOTEL IN DEEP ELLUM.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
NEXT, WE'LL. MR. CHAIR, WILL YOU ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM TO THE FULL COUNCIL, SINCE IT'S SET FOR THE DECEMBER 10TH MEETING? SO WE CAN TAKE ACTION ITEM AND SO WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL SO MOVE. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
ALL THOSE IN SUPPORT SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM C. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM C?
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SEEING. SIR? SO ITEM C HAS BEEN TO THE COMMITTEE A FEW TIMES.THIS IS THE OFF STREET PARKING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
I KNOW WE RAN OUT OF TIME AT THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING, SO WE'RE JUST BRINGING IT BACK TO GET YOUR CONSIDERATION IF WE WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, IF WE WANT TO SEND IT BACK FOR ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS, IF WE WANT TO TABLE HOW THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
OKAY. VICE CHAIR RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
THIS ITEM HAS, AS YOU'VE OBSERVED, BEEN BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE A FEW TIMES NOW.
IT HAS UNDERGONE, SINCE ITS LAST APPEARANCE HERE, MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS, TREK AND THE DALLAS BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND HAS ALSO BEEN REVIEWED BY THE OAK LAWN COMMITTEE AND UPTOWN DALLAS, INC.
AND SO I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS READY FOR COUNCIL ACTION AT THIS POINT.
OKAY. AND ACCORDINGLY, I WILL MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND I KNOW I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, AND I SEE A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS WITH QUESTIONS FIRST, I SAW COUNCILMEMBER ROTH FIRST. THANK YOU. I AM VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE, BUT I HAD A COUPLE TWEAKS AND QUESTIONS REGARDING SOME OF THE WORDING JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLARIFIED.
IN THE SECTION REQUIRED INFORMATION UNDER 605.2.2.
MY QUESTION WAS, IS THE CITY PROVIDING SOME KIND OF A DOCUMENT PACKAGE THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THESE THINGS TO FACILITATE THE PRESENTATION OF THE PLAN AND THE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A FORM OF THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENTS. AND, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, HOW IS THE PROCESS TO GET THIS OFF STREET PARKING PLAN PRESENTED? IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE EVERYBODY'S GOING TO PUT IN THEIR OWN STUFF, OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SORT OF FORMS THAT PEOPLE CAN FILL OUT AND MAKE IT RELATIVELY EASY AND EFFICIENT TO GET THINGS, YOU KNOW, SIGNED OFF ON? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SAM ISKANDER, DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A BURDEN ON THEM. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PRETTY FLEXIBLE, ALLOW THEM TO SUBMIT WHAT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO SUBMIT. WE JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY PROVIDE AN OFF SITE LOT WHERE THEY CAN PROVIDE PARKING ON, AND THEY CAN GIVE US THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND SHOW US THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING THOSE PARKING SPACES THROUGH A MEMORANDUM WITH THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY. OKAY. THE SECOND THING IS, IT SAYS THAT THEY MUST NOTIFY BUILDING OFFICIALS.
IS THAT SORT OF A DEFINED TERM? AND I'M NOT CRITICIZING, I'M JUST.
WHAT IS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL? THE BUILDING OFFICIAL IS THE DEPARTMENT.
SO. YES. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IS THAT ADEQUATE DEFINITION IN YOUR ORDINANCE? YES. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS ON THE FINE NOT TO EXCEED $2,000.
IS THAT A TOTAL FINE OR SHOULD THAT BE PER INCIDENT? IF YOU HAVE A RECURRENT VIOLATOR, DO WE WANT TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE TEETH IN THAT AUTHORITY? I MAY NEED SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THAT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
CASEY BURGESS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE $2,000 FINE.
THERE'S BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE IN THE WAY THAT'S SET UP IN THE CODE.
IT'S ALWAYS, THAT CAN BE PER INCIDENT, PER DAY.
SO IF YOU HAVE AN ONGOING VIOLATION, THOSE FINES COULD ADD UP PRETTY QUICK.
OKAY. BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A MAX RATHER THAN A, YOU KNOW, PERIODIC OR A RECURRENT DEAL,
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SO. IT'S A QUESTION OF ENFORCEMENT AND THAT'S YOU ALL TO FIGURE THAT OUT.BUT I JUST BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR. YES. I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE ABILITY TO HAVE THIS PLAN BE MORE THAN JUST PD 193, THERE ARE MANY AREAS WITHIN THE CITY THAT THIS COULD APPLY TO.
AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT EVERY TIME WE WOULD NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR EACH AND EVERY AREA, OPPOSED TO HAVING THIS BE SOMETHING THAT IS IMPLEMENTED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY? YEAH, IN OTHER AREAS OUTSIDE OF PD 193, WE MAY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, VERY SIMILAR RELATED TO SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING. AND JUST BASED ON MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, MOST OF THE AREAS IN DALLAS HAVE MORE SPACE ON THEIR OWN LAND OR ON THEIR PROPERTY TO PARK CONSTRUCTION WORKERS VEHICLES.
WE DON'T SEE THE ISSUE AS OFTEN OUT IN OTHER AREAS OUTSIDE OF PD 193.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT WE JUST DON'T SEE IT AS OFTEN.
SO ARE WE NARROWING OUR SCOPE BECAUSE WE DON'T SEE IT AS OFTEN? OR ARE WE NARROWING OUR SCOPE BECAUSE THIS IS THE EASIEST WAY TO MANAGE TO PD 193? WELL, YEAH. I MEAN, WELL. LET ME SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I RESPECT PD 193. I RESPECT ITS DENSITY AND THE NEEDS IN ORDER FOR RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES IN ORDER TO MANAGE AND MAINTAIN. BUT I ALSO RESPECT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE CITY THAT ARE GETTING READY TO BE DEVELOPED THAT THIS TOO, WILL APPLY TO.
AND IS THERE A WAY TO MANAGE THIS SO THAT IT DOESN'T JUST IMPACT PD 193 AND IT CAN IMPACT MORE THAN JUST THIS ONE AREA? SO COUNCILMEMBER, NOTED.
THIS WAS INITIATED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE DISTRICT.
I THINK STAFF ONLY LOOKED AT THIS PARTICULAR PD.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOOK AT OTHER AREAS AS WELL.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THIS ONE.
AND I WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR ECO DEV DEPARTMENT.
OBVIOUSLY VALUE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT CONSTRUCTION CAUSES ON BOTH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS.
BUT I ALSO WANT TO SEE HOW THIS WEIGHS IN ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT TO THE CITY.
SO, ROBIN. SURE. WELL, IT'S ALWAYS A BALANCE, RIGHT? ADDING ADDITIONAL OBLIGATIONS ON OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ALWAYS HAS TO BE BALANCED AGAINST A PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
BECAUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS MY BACKGROUND, I TEND TO NOT WANT TO BE OVERLY BURDENSOME IN OUR REGULATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT TO ENCOURAGE MORE DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S A POLICY DECISION.
OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, ON ONE HAND, YOU KNOW, THIS BODY IS REQUIRING LESS PARKING FOR THOSE DAY TO DAY USES IN HERE WERE, YOU KNOW, STARTING TO NOW REQUIRE THE PARKING.
AND SO JUST REMIND ME OF THE RATIOS. IS IT BY SQUARE FOOTAGE OR IS IT BY NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ON SITE? HOW MANY IS. OH SHOOT, ANDREA JUST LEFT. I WAS GOING TO ASK HER.
I DON'T KNOW THE RATIOS OFFHAND. I DIDN'T BRING THAT INFORMATION WITH ME.
ANDREA, ON PARKING RATIOS, COULD YOU COME ANSWER A QUICK QUESTION?
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OH, SORRY, I MISSED THE QUESTION. ALL PARKING RATIOS ARE BY SQUARE FOOTAGE.BUT KEEP IN MIND, WE DID A PARKING REFORM, NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PD 193, THAT WAS UNAFFECTED.
SO PD 193 MAINTAINS THESE RATIOS. I'M SORRY, I'M REFERRING TO THE CONSTRUCTION PARKING.
SO THERE'S NO RATIO. ESSENTIALLY. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SAM.
YOU'RE THE EXPERT HERE. ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT'S SAYING IS WE DON'T WANT THE WORKERS PARKING ON THE STREET. ALTHOUGH IT IS LEGAL FOR THEM TO PARK AT THE STREET PARKING, WE'RE ASKING THEM TO PARK ELSEWHERE TO FREE UP THE STREET PARKING.
SO IT'S JUST ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS, CORRECT? THEY'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A PLAN IN ORDER TO GET THEIR PERMIT, TELLING US WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PARK, ALL OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION FOLKS AND VERY NON ENGINEERED LANGUAGE.
AND THEN IS THERE A TIME FRAME WHERE IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD, IT WOULD BE REVIEWED IN A YEAR, TWO YEARS? IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WOULD CALL FOR THAT? OR IF NOT, WOULD WE JUST HAVE TO REVIEW THIS? THERE'S NO CALL FOR FUTURE REVIEW, BUT IT COULD BE AMENDED BY THE COUNCIL THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AT ANY TIME.
OKAY. VICE CHAIR RIDLEY. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR MENTIONED ABOUT EXPANDING THE GEOGRAPHIC REACH OF THIS ORDINANCE TO OTHER AREAS.
THIS ORDINANCE IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE CHAMPIONED BECAUSE OF COMPLAINTS THAT I RECEIVED FROM BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS OF PARTICULARLY PD 193, THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO STREET PARKING BECAUSE IT WAS TAKEN UP BY CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. AND WE ARE ALSO PLAGUED WITH VERY NARROW STREETS IN THIS OLD SECTION OF THE CITY, WHICH COMPLICATES THE ACCESS STREET PARKING. I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW WELL THIS CONCEPT WORKS IN PRACTICE, AND IT CAN CERTAINLY BE EXPANDED TO OTHER PDS OR OTHER DISTRICTS IN THE FUTURE, WITH SIMPLE LANGUAGE CHANGES ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHIC JURISDICTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
I WOULD BE RELUCTANT TO DO THAT NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE NOW YEAR LONG HISTORY OF DRAFTING THIS ORDINANCE IN RECEIVING INPUT FROM THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND FROM RESIDENTS OF THE AREA THAT WE HAVE WITH RESPECT TO PD 193. AND I'M AFRAID THAT THAT WOULD STALL THIS ONE GOING INTO EFFECT IF WE HELD IT IN ABEYANCE WHILE WE LOOKED AT OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY AND SOUGHT CITIZEN AND STAKEHOLDER INPUT ABOUT THOSE AREAS.
OTHER AREAS CAN CERTAINLY BE ADDED ON. THIS COULD BE DONE AS A PROCESS OF ASSESSING THE SUCCESS OF THIS ORDINANCE AND ITS APPLICATION TO THE CHALLENGE THAT IT'S INTENDED TO ADDRESS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, VICE CHAIR, AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT.
NOT HAVING THE PRIVILEGE OF THE YEARS WORTH OF HISTORY ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, I DEFINITELY SEE THE VALUE THAT IT WILL BRING, ESPECIALLY TO PD 193.
I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK ON ALLOW. EXCUSE ME.
OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY TO HAVE THE SAME BENEFITS.
AND IF WE CAN DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, I'M ALL SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. SO IN ONE OF THE FIRST READINGS IT ADDRESSED IDLING AND CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. OR HAVE THOSE BEEN REMOVED SINCE? SAY AGAIN, IDLING? IDLING AND CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, HAVE THOSE BEEN REMOVED? I BELIEVE THOSE ARE MENTIONED IN ANOTHER CHAPTER, AND MAYBE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN HELP ME WITH THAT, BUT. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY HAS SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
YES, WE'VE KIND OF GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS ISSUE.
I SOUGHT THE OPINION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AS RECENTLY AS THIS MORNING.
AND MR. CASEY BURGESS, I BELIEVE, IS AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION.
YEAH. THERE WERE SOME EXISTING LANGUAGE IN CHAPTER 52 THAT ADDRESSED TRUCK TRAFFIC IDLING,
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THINGS OF THOSE NATURE. LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A VESTIGE OF THE OLD UNIFORM CONSTRUCTION CODE THAT WAS IN PLACE, LIKE, SAY, BACK IN THE 1990S, AND WE DON'T USE THAT ANYMORE.SO THAT EXISTING LANGUAGE THAT THAT'S IN THERE, ALL THAT WOULD REALLY DO WOULD BE TO POINT YOU TO THE CHAPTER 28 LANGUAGE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE BOOKS. YEAH. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. NOT THAT I DON'T SUPPORT THIS ITEM, BUT I STILL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
I'M GOING TO. I'M SURE THIS ITEM IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOME QUESTIONS AT THE FULL COUNCIL MEETING.
AND SO WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, CAN YOU RESTATE YOUR MOTION? SURE. I MOVE THAT THE ITEM BE ADVANCED TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION AT A FUTURE AGENDA MEETING, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY.
MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM D, OKAY.
ITEM D IS A FACADE PROGRAM FOR DISTRICT 7, FUNDED BY DISTRICT 7´S DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS.
AND HEATHER LOPEZ IS HERE WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PROGRAM.
CHAIR GRACEY. CONGRATULATIONS FIRST ON DISTRICT 7 ON THIS ITEM.
SO NOTHING AGAINST THAT, JUST FYI, BUT I KNOW I WAS WORKING ON TRYING TO DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR, AND I JUST NEEDED AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHY I THINK I WAS TOLD, AND I JUST NEED SOME CLARITY.
I WAS TRYING TO USE MY DISCRETION OR WHATEVER WE'RE CALLING THOSE DOLLARS, OUR BOND DOLLARS.
I WAS TRYING TO USE $1 MILLION OF THAT, AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS PLACED, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT UNTIL 2029? AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH LEGAL OVER HERE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER IT, IT'S VERY EASY. SO THE COUNCIL MEMBER´S REFERRING TO 2024 BOND PROGRAM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROPOSITION. THERE WERE THREE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, AS I RECALL, THAT GOT COUNCIL DISTRICTS SPECIFIC ALLOCATIONS.
COUNCIL DISTRICT 3 WAS ONE OF THEM. BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE BUDGET OFFICE AND THE BOND OFFICE HAVE PLANNED THE BOND PROGRAM TO BE ISSUED IN FIVE TRANCHES. THE ALLOCATION THAT HE'S REFERRING TO IS SCHEDULED TO BE AVAILABLE FOR DEPLOYMENT IN 2029.
7. RIGHT, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS? COUNCILMEMBER ROTH. THANK YOU. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.
I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS THAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT.
IS BUILDING SIGNAGE INCLUDED IN AN APPLICABLE ELIGIBLE CONTRIBUTION.
I SAW THAT OFF-SITE SIGNAGE IS NOT, BUT IS TENANT AND PROPERTY SIGNAGE? IF IT'S PERMANENT AND PAINTED AND LIT, YES. IF IT'S SOME OTHER TYPE OF SIGNAGE, IT HAS TO BE PERMANENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY.
BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ENHANCE THE LOOK OF A PROPERTY.
I'M JUST SAYING IF IT'S NOT IN IT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T.
IF IT IS IN IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING ADDITION.
OKAY. WOULD, CORRECT. AND THEN I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THERE WAS A DEADLINE
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IN THE USE OF THESE BOND FUNDS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, BUT IS THERE SOME KIND OF A DROP, YOU KNOW, IS THIS JUST GOES ON FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER, UNTIL THEY'RE USED UP? OR SHOULD WE PUT SOME KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, A DATE AT WHICH.THE BOND FUNDS DO NOT. MOST OF THE 2017 BOND FUNDS HAVE BEEN SPENT, BUT THESE DISCRETIONARY FUNDS HAVE LINGERED A LITTLE BIT LONGER LOOKING FOR THE RIGHT PROJECTS TO DEPLOY THEM IN THE PARTICULAR COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
BUT THERE'S NO DEADLINE BY WHICH THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT.
AND THEN THE OTHER. I NOTICED THAT THE DEFINITION, AND I'M JUST.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, IS THERE A DEFINED CRITERIA OF WHAT ELIGIBLE MEANS.
I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT IT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR A BUSINESS TO GET IT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DEFINITION OF WHAT AN ELIGIBLE SMALL BUSINESS MIGHT BE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO LANGUAGE THAT REQUIRES THEM TO NOT BE KIND OF THE CHAPTER 51.
AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO THAT WOULD BE A LIQUOR STORE, A PAWN SHOP, A BODY PIERCING STUDIO, TATTOO STUDIO. YEAH, BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS ELIGIBLE SMALL BUSINESS.
YEAH. WELL, WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID IS, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE AN ABILITY FOR SOMEBODY NOT TO QUALIFY FOR IT BE, YOU KNOW, SUBJECTIVELY, THIS ISN'T A SMALL ENOUGH BUSINESS, OR I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS STUFF.
AND SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT. I'M TRYING TO AVOID NOT ALLOWING THESE PROJECTS TO BE HANDLED.
THE SECOND, THE LAST THING IS THAT UNDER THE PROGRAM STATEMENT, IT DOES REFER TO UNDER THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT PARAGRAPH AND THE ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES PARAGRAPH THAT IT'S INCREASED REAL TAXABLE VALUE WITHIN DALLAS.
I THINK I THOUGHT THESE WERE SPECIFIC FOR AREA, YOU KNOW, FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT 7. AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT SHOULD BE CLARIFIED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FOR VALUE FOR THAT DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHERE THE MONIES ARE BEING SPENT. AGAIN, AND THEN THE LAST THING I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IS, WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF GETTING THOSE FUNDS? AND YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT TO ME, BUT I THINK I'M CONFUSED IF IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT OR IF IT'S A PREPAY AND THEN A CLAWBACK, OR BECAUSE THERE'S PROVISIONS FOR FOR OTHER WAYS TO DO IT. YOU ARE CORRECT. IT WOULD BE A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT.
SO WE'LL HAVE AN APPLICATION ON OUR WEBSITE AFTER, ASSUMING CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THIS OF DECEMBER 10TH, WE WOULD HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR FUNDS ON OUR WEBSITE AFTER DECEMBER 15TH.
PEOPLE WILL APPLY. THEY WILL HAVE TO REGISTER AS A VENDOR.
SO FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER $25,000, THE CITY WOULD REIMBURSE UP TO 80% OF THAT PROJECT COST.
WE'LL NEED TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING TRACKS TO THAT EXTENT.
SO BASICALLY THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT, GET THE PROJECT APPROVED, THEN PERFORM THE WORK AND WITH PROOF OF COMPLETION AND EXPENDITURE AND THEN RECEIVE THE REIMBURSEMENT.
AND THAT'LL BE DEFINED SOMEWHERE IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS OR SOMEWHERE.
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ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION. BEAUTIFUL. OKAY. THANK YOU.I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR Y'ALL'S PRESENTATION AND YOUR WORK ON THIS.
AND THAT'S THE ELIGIBLE BUSINESSES. I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK THE DEMAND THAT EXISTS IN DISTRICT 7, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SIMILAR WITH OTHER DISTRICTS, I THINK THE DEMAND HAS ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED REALLY, RIGHT? AND THERE'S A LOT OF, THIS IS WHAT KIND OF SPARKED THE IDEA, WHEN THERE'S HABITUAL CODE VIOLATIONS OR WHEN THERE'S SOME NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY THAT GOES ADJACENT TO A CERTAIN PROPERTY, AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND GIVING SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT COULD BE DONE TO KIND OF MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, ALWAYS HAVE A PRICE TAG, AND IT'S BEEN A HINDRANCE ON BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO FURNISH SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS BROUGHT FORTH THROUGH CODE VIOLATIONS, ETC.
SO I THINK THAT MY OFFICE IS PLANNING ON BEING VERY PROACTIVE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTACT THOSE WHO WE KNOW HAVE NOT HAD THE MEANS TO DO AND SEE TO IT THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO THROUGH THIS APPLICATION PROCESS, AND ADMINISTRATIVELY THEY WILL.
I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WORD, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A BASIS FOR IT.
IT WAS NOT JUST HOPING THAT PEOPLE WILL COME FOR IT.
I'M HOPING THAT IT'S AS SUCCESSFUL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT MORE DOLLARS FROM OUR DISTRICT INTO THIS PROGRAM, JUST BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW THE DEMAND EXISTS.
THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.
THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. AND SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I KNOW THESE ARE DISTRICT DOLLARS, BUT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GO CITYWIDE.
I KNOW THAT DURING OUR ECO DEV PROJECTS, WE A LOT OF THE TIMES PRIORITIZE PROJECTS THAT ARE VERTICAL, PROJECTS THAT ARE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENTS, BUT THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE REALLY THE BACKBONE OF OUR CITY.
AND AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY START PRIORITIZING THESE SMALLER PROJECTS.
I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES IT TAKES JUST AS MUCH STAFF TIME TO DO THESE, WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL LITTLE DEALS, BUT THEY'RE BIG DEALS TO A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESSES.
SO IT'S MY HOPE THAT THIS IS A MODEL THAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE FOR SOMETHING THAT'S CITYWIDE.
WITH THAT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM.
SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE HAVE ONE LAST ITEM.
IT IS 3:01 P.M. ON DECEMBER 1ST, 2025. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.087 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA RELATING TO PROJECT X. ALL RIGHT. THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.087 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND AT 3:24 ON DECEMBER 1ST, 2025, WE HAVE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION. AND THE TIME IS NOW 3:24 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.