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YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM JESSE MORENO, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM GAY DONNELL WILLIS, COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST, ZARIN D GRACEY MAXINE JOHNSON, JAIME RESENDEZ, LAURA CADENA, ADAM BAZALDUA, LORI BLAIR, PAULA BLACKMON, KATHY STEWART, WILLIAM ROTH, CARA MENDELSOHN, PAUL E RIDLEY, CITY MANAGER KIMBERLY BIZOR TOLBERT, CITY SECRETARY BILIERAE JOHNSON, AND CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALOMINO. OKAY. GOOD MORNING.

[Call to Order]

WE HAVE A QUORUM. TODAY'S WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 3RD, 2025 TIMES 9:30 A.M..

AND I CALL THIS MEETING OF DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. I'M TOLD OUR INVOCATION, SPEAKER, THIS MORNING HAS CHANGED AND IT IS GOING TO BE OUR COLLEAGUE ZARIN D GRACEY FROM DISTRICT THREE, WHO ALSO SERVES AS THE EXECUTIVE PASTOR FOR CONCORD CHURCH.

NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PASTOR CHAIRMAN GRACEY.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. LET US PRAY. GRACIOUS AND ETERNAL GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH HUMBLE HEARTS, MINDFUL OF THE WORDS FROM EPHESIANS TO PRAY IN THE SPIRIT ON ALL OCCASIONS, WITH ALL KINDS OF PRAYERS AND REQUESTS TO BE ALERT AND ALWAYS KEEP ON PRAYING FOR ALL OF THE LORD'S PEOPLE.

FATHER, WE LIFT UP MAYOR JOHNSON AND EACH MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL.

GRANT US WISDOM TO DISCERN WHAT IS RIGHT. COURAGE TO MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND COMPASSION TO SERVE WITH INTEGRITY.

MAY THEY BE GUIDED BY YOUR TRUTH AS WE NAVIGATE THE COMPLEXITIES BEFORE US TODAY AND IN THE DAYS AHEAD.

LORD, WE PRAY FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND ALL THE CITY STAFF WHO LABOR FAITHFULLY ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY.

BLESS THEIR EFFORTS. RENEW THEIR STRENGTH AND LET THEIR WORK BEAR FRUIT THAT BENEFITS ALL DALLAS RESIDENTS.

GIVE THEM CLARITY IN THEIR PLANNING, EFFECTIVENESS IN THEIR EXECUTION, AND JOY IN THEIR SERVICE.

LORD, WE PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS, THE SOULS WHO CALL THIS GREAT CITY HOME.

WE PRAY FOR FAMILIES STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET FOR CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS.

FOR THOSE SEEKING EMPLOYMENT, FOR THE ELDERLY AND VULNERABLE, AND FOR THOSE WHO FEEL FORGOTTEN.

UNITE US ACROSS NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD AS THIS COUNCIL CONDUCTS THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS TODAY.

MAY THEIR DELIBERATIONS BE MARKED BY RESPECT, THEIR DEBATES BE CIVIL, AND OUR DECISIONS BE JUSTICE.

DECISIONS BY JUSTICE. MAY WE REMAIN ALERT TO THE NEEDS OF THIS CITY AND FAITHFUL IN OUR CALLING TO SERVE.

WE ASK ALL THIS IN YOUR HOLY NAME. AMEN. IF EVERYONE WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND THEN THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYONE.

YOU MAY BE SEATED, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THIS MORNING.

[Special Presentations]

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER NOW.

THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

WELCOME BACK. WE HAVE SEVERAL RECOGNITIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS MORNING.

THE FIRST RECOGNITION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT IS THAT WE ARE EXCITED TO SHARE AN EXCITING MILESTONE IN OUR CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO DEVELOPING AND ELEVATING THE TALENTED PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO MAKE UP OUR CITY WORKFORCE.

THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS LONG RECOGNIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF SUPPORTING EMPLOYEE GROWTH AND PREPARING OUR WORKFORCE FOR THE CHALLENGES OF MODERN PUBLIC SERVICE.

TO FURTHER THAT COMMITMENT, WE PARTNERED WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS TO OFFER A HIGH QUALITY MASTER OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION PROGRAM DIRECTLY TO CITY OF DALLAS EMPLOYEES.

THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN DESIGNED DESIGNED TO BE ACCESSIBLE, RIGOROUS, AND ALIGNED WITH THE NEEDS OF THOSE WHO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS EVERY DAY.

WORKING TOGETHER, UT DALLAS AND OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT RECRUITED THE VERY FIRST COHORT, AN IMPRESSIVE GROUP OF EMPLOYEES FROM ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION WHO BEGAN THEIR STUDIES IN THE FALL OF 2023.

TODAY, IT IS MY GREAT HONOR TO CELEBRATE THE GRADUATES OF THAT COHORT.

THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE DEMONSTRATED EXTRAORDINARY DEDICATION, BALANCING DEMANDING COURSEWORK, PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES, AND PERSONAL COMMITMENTS WITH PERSEVERANCE, DISCIPLINE AND HEART.

THEIR SUCCESS EMBODIES THE SPIRIT OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND HIGHLIGHTS THE POWER OF OUR COLLABORATION WITH UTT DALLAS.

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SO PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING AND APPLAUDING THE GRADUATES OF THE CITY OF DALLAS FIRST MPA COHORT PROGRAM WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS.

I'M GOING TO CALL THEIR NAMES AND ASK FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO PLEASE COME DOWN FRONT.

FIRST, WE HAVE JERRY CREIGHTON IN THE BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

SECOND, WE HAVE GREGORY EVANS REPRESENTING DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE.

DWIGHT FREEMAN, ALSO FROM DALLAS FIRE RESCUE.

WE HAVE EVAN HANDELMAN, BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES.

ROBERT COBURN. DALLAS FIRE RESCUE. LAUREN LAWRENCE.

311 COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. KEVIN ODEN. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE. SCOTT PACKERT, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE.

LILIANA PEREZ GARCIA. PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

TAMEKA WILLIAMS HARRIS. COURTS AND SECURITY SERVICES.

AND COREY WOMACK, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE. THESE GRADUATES REPRESENT A REMARKABLE CROSS-SECTION OF OUR CITY, FROM EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO PLANNING, BUDGETING, COMMUNICATIONS AND MORE.

THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENT IS NOT ONLY A PERSONAL TRIUMPH, BUT ALSO A REFLECTION OF THE STRENGTH, THE TALENT AND THE COMMITMENT THAT DRIVE OUR ORGANIZATION FORWARD.

I WANT TO EXPRESS MY DEEP APPRECIATION TO OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF THE MANY DEPARTMENTS, DEPARTMENT LEADERS AND OUR PARTNERS AT UT DALLAS FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP, COLLABORATION AND THEIR SUPPORT IN THIS SUCCESSFUL INITIATIVE.

THE SECOND COHORT IS ALREADY WELL UNDERWAY. THOSE EMPLOYEES HAVE A PROJECTED GRADUATION OF THE SUMMER OF 2027, AND WE ARE EXCITED THAT THIS PROGRAM CONTINUES TO GROW.

IT ALSO GIVES ME JOY THIS MORNING TO RECOGNIZE THE PERSON THAT WORKED WITH US TO MAKE THIS ALL HAPPEN MY FORMER BOSS, FORMER DALLAS CITY MANAGER TED BENAVIDES. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT TODAY. THIS IS WHAT INVESTING IN OUR PEOPLE LOOK LIKE, AND THIS IS HOW WE KNOW THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN OUR ORGANIZATION.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING COMMITTED TO YOUR ONGOING SELF-IMPROVEMENT AND PERSONAL GROWTH.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO BRING HIM DOWN FRONT AND HAVE A PICTURE WITH HIM HERE AND HAVE MAYBE HAVE YOU AND TED FLANK THEM ON EACH END? THAT WOULD BE KIND OF COOL. SEE, I'M DIRECTING PICTURES AND STUFF NOW.

OKAY. YOU DIRECTED. YEAH, I THINK HE'S. YEAH, HE'S PASSING OUT THROUGH GIFTS.

YEAH, HE'S ALREADY DONE THAT. YEAH, HE DID IT ALREADY.

YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S COOL. I THOUGHT THAT WAS TED BENAVIDES, BUT I WASN'T SURE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE HAVE A FEW MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, SO WE'LL HANG TIGHT BEFORE WE GO TO OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

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MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE A ANOTHER RECOGNITION THIS MORNING.

TODAY WE ARE RECOGNIZING THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS, FOR TWO DISTINGUISHED NATIONAL AWARDS.

FOR THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW, THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS, RECEIVED THE DISTINCTIVE ACHIEVEMENT AWARD BY THE ASSOCIATION CONVENTIONS AND FACILITIES MAGAZINE. THE WINNERS ARE SELECTED BY DECISION MAKERS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVENT PLANNING, SITE SELECTION AND HONORS FACILITIES AND DESTINATIONS THAT MEET OR EXCEED THE HIGH STANDARDS DEMANDED BY MEETING PROFESSIONALS.

SECONDLY, THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER WAS THE RECIPIENT OF THE PRIME SITE AWARD BY FACILITIES MEDIA GROUP, THE PUBLISHERS OF FACILITIES AND DESTINATION MAGAZINE.

THIS AWARD IS GIVEN TO TOP ENTERTAINMENT, SPORTS AND SPECIAL EVENT VENUES BASED ON CRITERIA FROM MEETING AND TRADE PROFESSIONALS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

FOR FIVE CONSECUTIVE YEARS, THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR ITS COMMITMENT TO CLIENT SATISFACTION AND DELIVERING EXCEPTIONAL EVENTS.

THESE AWARDS ARE A TESTAMENT TO THE CONTINUED HARD WORK AND DEDICATION OF THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER DALLAS TEAM, LED BY DIRECTOR ROSA FLEMING. CRAIG DAVIS VISIT DALLAS ANTHONY LOPEZ OVG AND OUR MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION PARTNER, INSPIRE DALLAS. THIS BENCHMARK HAS BEEN SET HIGH AND THE TEAM CONTINUES TO EXCEL IN BOOKING THE CONVENTION CENTER WHILE WE WORK TOWARDS THE COMPLETION OF THE NEWLY EXPANDED CENTER IN 2029. WITH THAT, I AM PLEASED TO HAVE DIRECTOR, CONVENTION CENTER, ROSA FLEMING AND HER TEAM TO PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

MISS FLEMING, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND THEN, MR. MAYOR, AFTERWARDS. WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM JUST COME TO THE CENTER AND GET A PHOTO WITH THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. SO I WANTED TO JUST EXPRESS OUR THANKS FOR YOU ALL ACKNOWLEDGING THAT RECOGNITION THIS MORNING.

IT'S OUR PLEASURE TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS, AND TO CONTINUE TO REACH FOR THINGS THAT IMPROVE THE ECONOMIC LIFE AND VALUE OF THE CITY. SO THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. IF Y'ALL WOULD JUST COME RIGHT HERE TO THE MIDDLE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THE COUNCIL GET A QUICK PHOTO WITH YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, WE HAVE ONE LAST RECOGNITION FOR FOR THIS YEAR.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF EXCELLENCE AND DEDICATION WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MICHAEL WRIGHT. HE'S THE CUSTODIAL SUPERVISOR IN OUR FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

WHEN ONE OF HIS TEAM MEMBERS LOST EVERYTHING IN A FIRE, MICHAEL IMMEDIATELY STEPPED IN TO PROVIDE SUPPORT, GUIDANCE AND ENCOURAGEMENT. HIS ACTIONS WENT FAR BEYOND HIS RESPONSIBILITIES, SHOWING TRUE COMPASSION, LEADERSHIP, AND A COMMITMENT TO THE WELL-BEING OF HIS TEAM MEMBER.

MICHAEL'S EXAMPLE DEMONSTRATES THAT LEADERSHIP GOES BEYOND MANAGING RESPONSIBILITIES.

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IT'S ABOUT SHOWING COMPASSION AND MAKING A REAL DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF OTHERS.

NEXT, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF 12 EMPLOYEES FROM OUR EQUIPMENT AND FLEET MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 20TH, SEPTEMBER 24TH AND OCTOBER THE 2ND, THEY COMPLETED THE APWU FLEET MANAGEMENT CERTIFICATION PROGRAM.

THIS ACHIEVEMENT DEMONSTRATES THEIR DEDICATION TO PROFESSIONAL GROWTH, OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE AND CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENTS.

TEAM MEMBERS FROM EVERY LEVEL. ANALYSTS, MANAGERS, SUPERVISORS AND LEADERS CAME TOGETHER WITH A SHARED PURPOSE TO STRENGTHEN HOW WE SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS. THEIR COLLABORATION REFLECTS OUR CORE VALUES AND CONTINUES WITH OUR PRINCIPLES OF CONNECTING, COLLABORATING AND COMMUNICATING. AND OUR MOTTO OF PROVIDING SERVICE FIRST.

NOW, BY ENHANCING THEIR SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE, THEY'RE HELPING ENSURE A CITYWIDE FLEET OPERATION THAT RUNS EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY, BENEFITING ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS AND OUR RESIDENTS.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SEVERAL STANDOUT EMPLOYEES FOR THEIR EXCEPTIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS THIS PAST YEAR.

JUSTIN CADDELL AT HENSLEY FIELD HE WORKS IN THE BODY SHOP, REDUCED OUR BODY SHOP PARTS COST BY NEARLY 150,000, AND LAUNCHED AN IN-HOUSE LAUNCHED AN IN-HOUSE TOWING PROGRAM, SAVING THE CITY'S SIGNIFICANT EXPENSES.

JONATHAN FLORES IS IN THE MOTOR POOL DIVISION, ADOPTED AND MANAGED A FULLY ELECTRIC BUS, DEDICATING AFTER HOURS AND WEEKENDS TO KEEP IT CLEAN, CHARGED AND READY FOR SERVICES. AND EVER HERRERA IN OUR SOUTHEAST SERVICE CENTER IS HE'S.

THE MANAGER ACHIEVED A 90% PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE COMPLIANCE, THE HIGHEST AMONG ALL SERVICE CENTERS, AND A 10% IMPROVEMENT FROM LAST YEAR. RICKY MCCORMICK AND JENNIFER DONATO WORKED WITH OUR WICK DEPARTMENT, WICKS DIVISION, TO ESTABLISH AND MANAGE INVENTORY, ELIMINATING THE NEED FOR A SEPARATE SYSTEM AND SAVING THE CITY COST.

TOGETHER, ALL OF THESE EMPLOYEES, ALONG WITH MICHAEL WRIGHT AND THE AND THE EQUIPMENT FLEET MANAGEMENT TEAM, HAVE DEMONSTRATED THEIR STRENGTH OF THE CITY OF DALLAS THROUGH THE WAY THEY SERVE, THROUGH THEIR INTEGRITY AND THEIR DEDICATION.

AND AT THIS TIME, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THOSE EMPLOYEES COME DOWN AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON THEIR OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENTS THIS YEAR.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.

OKAY IS EVERYONE MAKES THEIR WAY BACK TO THEIR SEATS.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY SECRETARY FOR OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

[Open Microphone Speakers (Part 1 of 2)]

MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR HIS FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS ARE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS, YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY. FIRST SPEAKER VICTORIA ATKINS.

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GOOD MORNING, I'M TORI AGNICH. I LIVE IN THE TOWNS OF HILLCREST, DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM HTB'S SITE AT LBJ IF PRIVATE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE AUTHORIZED ON THIS LAND, MY HOA MIGHT BE LISTED AS AN INTERESTED PARTY.

NEXT WEEK, CITY COUNCIL WILL VOTE ON REZONING THIS TEN ACRE SITE FROM NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE TO REGIONAL RETAIL.

THIS MEANS MULTIPLYING THE SCALE OF HUMAN AND VEHICLE ACTIVITY THERE AND LONG HOURS OF OPERATION EVERY DAY.

I BELIEVE COUNCIL WOULD NOT BE GRANTING REGIONAL RETAIL ON THIS SITE IF THE OWNER WERE NOT THE VERY POPULAR HEB, WITHOUT SPECIFIC LAND USE DEED RESTRICTIONS. REGIONAL RETAIL OPENS THE SITE TO, AMONG OTHER THINGS, A CONCRETE BATCHING PLANT, AN ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION, AN AUTO OR HEAVY EQUIPMENT SALE OR SERVICE SITE WHICH DO NOT BELONG CENTERED IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. HEB BROUGHT TO ITS CITY PLAN COMMISSION HEARING A SHORT LIST OF PROHIBITED USES TO BE EMBEDDED INTO ITS ZONING SINCE EARLY NOVEMBER.

NEIGHBORS HAVE ASKED FOR A BROADER LIST. PROPOSED RESTRICTIVE RESTRICTIONS WOULD IN NO WAY LIMIT HEB'S OPERATION OF ITS STORE, BUT WOULD PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS IF HGB SELLS TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER.

THE FACT THAT LBJ FREEWAY CUTS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DOES NOT GIVE THE COUNCIL A RATIONALE TO LOCATE REGIONAL RETAIL THERE.

DESPITE THE DALLAS NEWS EDITORIAL SAYING HIGH WAVES AND REGIONAL RETAIL ALWAYS ARE COMPATIBLE, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IS THE PRECEDENT COUNCIL WANTS TO SET.

SINCE EARLY NOVEMBER, HILLCREST FOREST HOA HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH HEB FOR DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH HTB'S PLANS, BUT WHICH LIMIT THE DAMAGE TO OUR COMMUNITIES.

IF HEB DECIDES NOT TO BUILD ITS STORE ON THE SITE.

THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE ONGOING. WING. THERE IS NO CERTAINTY THAT H-E-B WILL BUILD AT THIS SITE.

IT HAS PROBLEMS TO SOLVE. THE THE SITE IS HALF THE SIZE OF HEB AS USUAL.

STORE PLAN. THERE'S FLOODING, UNNECESSARY ROADWAYS AND TRAFFIC WILL BE DENSE AND POTENTIALLY ANGRY.

HBS APPLICATION FOR THE ZONING CHANGE INCLUDES NO BUILDING, ROAD OR ROAD PLANS, AND NO PROMISES TO BUILD.

HEB WOULD PROFIT GREATLY BY JUST SELLING THE LAND WITH NEW ZONING.

IF THE NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOOD AND HEB LEAD TO AGREED DEED RESTRICTIONS, IT WILL CONFIRM HBS REPUTATION AS A GENEROUS AND COMMUNITY SPIRITED COMPANY. AS COUNCIL VOTES, MAKE SURE YOU GET WHAT YOU HOPE FOR, BUT DO NOT SETTLE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SMOTHERING TRAFFIC AND DESTRUCTIVE USES JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A HIGHWAY THERE.

THAT CAN'T BE GOOD POLICY FOR EVERY DALLAS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A HIGHWAY RUNNING THROUGH IT.

THANK YOU. LUCIENNE. ABBONDANZA. ABBONDANZA.

MAYOR. JOHNSON. COUNCIL. MEMBERS. AGAIN. MY NAME IS LUCIANNE.

ABBONDANZA. I AM A MEMBER OF THE HILLCREST PRESERVATION COALITION, AND I LIVE JUST ONE BLOCK SOUTH FROM THE PROPOSED HEB REZONING AT HILLCREST AND LBJ. I'M ASKING TODAY FOR YOU TO LOOK AT THIS REZONING BY STANDING IN THE SHOES OF THE RESIDENTS AFFECTED BY YOUR DECISION, BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONES WHO WILL LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES LONG AFTER THIS ENDS.

WE CONTINUE TO HEAR THAT H-E-B WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, AND ADDRESS CONCERNS.

BUT YOU KNOW THE PATTERN. DURING REZONING PROMISES A GENEROUS.

BUT ONCE THE THE REZONING IS APPROVED, THOSE COMMITMENTS SHIFT.

THEY WEAKEN AND DISAPPEAR. THE BURDEN THEN FALLS ON US, THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE NO RESOURCES TO FIGHT FOR PROTECTIONS WE WERE TOLD WOULD BE DELIVERED. COUNCIL MEMBERS, THIS IS NOT ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND IF MAJOR ADJUSTMENTS ARE NEEDED JUST TO BEGIN MAKING THIS SITE WORKABLE, THAT ALONE TELLS US SOMETHING IMPORTANT.

THIS LOCATION IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A REGIONAL RETAILER OF THIS SCALE.

HILLCREST IS ALREADY NEAR CAPACITY. LBJ BACKS UP DAILY.

AND THEN WHEN TRAFFIC OVERFLOWS AND IT WILL, IT'LL AFFECT H.

IT WON'T AFFECT HEB EXECUTIVES. IT WILL AFFECT US.

THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, WILL PUSH ONTO NEIGHBORHOODS, STREETS WHERE CHILDREN WALK,

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SENIORS CROSS, AND FAMILIES EXPECT SAFETY. WE'RE ALSO TOLD HEB CAN DESIGN AROUND THE LIMITATIONS, BUT DESIGNING AROUND A PROBLEM IS NOT SOLVING IT.

YOU CANNOT SCALE DOWN TRAFFIC. YOU CANNOT SCALE DOWN LATE NIGHT DELIVERIES OR LIGHTING.

YOU CANNOT SHRINK. A REGIONAL RETAIL OPERATION TO FIT A TEN ACRE PARCEL PUSHED UP AGAINST ESTABLISHED HOME.

AND THEN THERE'S A BROADER ISSUE PRECEDENT. IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES A REGIONAL RETAIL UP ZONING ON A SITE THIS SMALL, THIS CONSTRAINED AND THIS CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL STREETS, IT BECOMES A TEMPLATE.

EVERY DEVELOPER IN DALLAS WILL POINT TO THIS CASE AS JUSTIFICATION TO PUSH INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES INTO OTHER QUIET NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHAT HAPPENS AT HILLCREST AND LBJ WILL NOT STAY THERE.

IT WILL RIPPLE ACROSS THE CITY. YOU WILL HEAR THIS CASE CITED AGAIN AND AGAIN.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU SPEAK OFTEN ABOUT PROTECTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENSURING DEVELOPERS KEEP THEIR COMMITMENTS.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE THOSE PRINCIPLES MATTER.

IF THE PROMISES AREN'T ENFORCEABLE, IF THE CONDITIONS AREN'T REALISTIC, AND IF THE PRECEDENT WOULD WEAKEN PROTECTIONS CITYWIDE THAN APPROVING THIS REZONING SIMPLY SHIFTS PERMANENT RISKS ONTO THE RESIDENTS. I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO DENY THE REZONING APPLICATION FROM HEB.

STAND WITH THE FAMILIES WHO WILL LIVE WITH THE OUTCOME AND PROTECT NOT ONLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS DALLAS FROM A PRECEDENT THAT WOULD ERODE THEIR STABILITY AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU. CATHY KAUFMAN.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.

MY NAME IS KATHY KAUFMAN. I LIVE AT 10805 LARK GLEN CIRCLE, DALLAS, TEXAS IN DISTRICT 11.

I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING FOR THE HILLCREST AND LBJ CORNER FROM NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE TO REGIONAL RETAIL.

WE ARE NOT ANTI-GROWTH OR ANTI-HCV. WE ARE, WE ARE.

WE WELCOME A FIRST CLASS HEAVY, BUT CRAMMING 127,000FT² STORE AND TWO AND A TWO STORY PARKING GARAGE ON JUST TEN ACRES IS HALF THE LAND THAT HEB NORMALLY BUILDS ON.

WE DESERVE IN THIS CITY A FIRST CLASS HEB. BUT CRAMMING ALL OF THIS ON THE ON THE ONE LOT IS WRONG FOR THIS SITE AND DANGEROUS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS TRAFFIC, A NEW TRAFFIC STUDY THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN OUR AREA NOW, SAYS THAT WE ARE UP TO 90,000 TRIPS PER WEEK ON THIS ONE SITE, AND THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE CONGESTION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THERE.

THE APPLICANT HAS NEVER MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE THE APPLICANT ON THE ZONING CASE IS NOT A JOB, IT'S A HOLDING COMPANY. AT CPC, NOT ONE NEIGHBOR WAS ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION THAT'S NOT PLANNING, THAT'S RUBBER. THAT'S A RUBBER STAMP ON THIS PROJECT.

WITHIN TWO AND A HALF MILES, THERE ARE ALREADY 14 GROCERY STORES.

LET ME REPEAT THAT. 14 GROCERY STORES WITHIN TWO AND A HALF MILES.

THIS ISN'T NEED, IT'S GREED. THE NEW TRAFFIC STUDY IS ALARMING BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TWO ENTRANCES, FUNNELING THOUSANDS MORE CARS ONTO THE ALREADY CONGESTED HIGH FIVE AND ONTO NARROW CHURCHILL WAY AND WILLOW LANE.

THESE STREETS ARE CURBLESS RESIDENTIAL STREETS WITH SCHOOLS AND SYNAGOGUES, WHERE CHILDREN WALK.

HILLCREST FROM NORTHWEST HIGHWAY TO ARAPAHOE HAS ZERO RETAIL FOR A REASON.

IT'S SURROUNDED BY HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS. REGIONAL RETAIL ZONING ALLOWS AN 80% LOT COVERAGE, NO PARKING MINIMUMS AND 75 PLUS INTENSE USES THAT DO NOT BELONG IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

RESIDENTS VOICES MUST MATTER. DENY THIS ZONING.

HELP HEBE FIND A PROPER SITE SO DALLAS GETS THE STORE THAT WE DESERVE WITHOUT ENDANGERING OUR FAMILIES.

IF THEY INSIST ON THIS CORNER AND DEMAND, THEN WE NEED TO DEMAND IRONCLAD, ENFORCEABLE PROTECTIONS IN WRITING THAT ARE WRITTEN TOGETHER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

LISTEN TO THE TAXPAYERS WHO ELECTED YOU. BE PRO RESPONSIBILITY, NOT JUST PRO DEVELOPER.

AND PLEASE VOTE NO. REMEMBER, UNLIMITED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT CANNOT SUSTAIN DALLAS IF IT ERODES THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT FORM THE CITY'S BACKBONE.

WE SUPPORT GROWTH THAT PRESERVES NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY, PROTECTS PROPERTY VALUES, AND ENSURES A SAFE, SUSTAINABLE FUTURE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR.

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MAYOR. I HOPE TO SEE YOU AT A BASKETBALL GAME SOON.

CLAYTON, YORK. CLAYTON, NEW YORK IS NOT PRESENT.

LUCIUS MILLER. HELLO. MY NAME IS LUCIUS MILLER JUNIOR. I'VE BEEN COMING HERE. THE MICROPHONE.

I'VE BEEN COMING HERE QUITE OFTEN SINCE THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE IN MY HOME IN 2017.

AND IN 2019, THE THE WORK WAS NOT DONE RIGHT, AND IT FLOODED OUT MY WHOLE HOUSE.

AND I'VE BEEN FIGHTING WITH THIS EVERY SINCE 2019.

MADE THE NEWSPAPER. I AM VERY CALM TODAY BECAUSE I'M SEEING A BETTER DOCTOR TODAY IN DISTRICT FOUR.

HAVE BEEN TRYING TO HELP ME AND I'M ASKING TO INVESTIGATE THIS, LET THESE PEOPLE HELP ME, BECAUSE I WENT TO ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS AND I'M NOT THE I'M NOT THE ONLY VICTIM THAT HAS BEEN DONE THE WAY THAT I HAVE BEEN DONE IN MY HOME. QUALIFYING FOR THESE PROGRAMS IN MY HOME AND HOMES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED FROM THE CITY WORKERS THAT Y'ALL HIRED. THEY HAVE CAME OVER AND LOOKED AT THE WORK.

I HAVE ALL THE EVERYTHING I USED TO CARRY. HOLD.

DEAR. SOMEBODY PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS. LET THEM INVESTIGATE IT OR SOMEBODY COME AND HELP ME.

IT HELPING ME FROM NOT PUTTING ON MORE MEDICATION.

I HAVE EIGHT KIDS, 13 GRANDKIDS AND SIX GREAT GRANDKIDS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO COME VISIT MY HOME BECAUSE MY HOME IS NOT SAFE.

MY MY, MY CHILDREN HAVE TOLD THEM THAT ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS YOU ALL COME HEAR ME.

I QUALIFY FOR IT. HELP ME. AND I HEARD OF OTHER IN THIS MEETING A DISTRICT FOR I HEARD PEOPLE ELDERLY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HOMES HAVE ALSO BEEN USED WORSE THAN I HAVE BEEN USED AND I CANNOT BE SELFISH NOT TO EVEN MENTION THEM.

AND THEY ARE OLDER. THEY ARE IN THEIR 70S. I'M 68 AND AND THE CITY OF DALLAS.

Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK INTO THESE PEOPLE. THESE PEOPLE IS HURTING AND ALSO THEIR YOUNG CHILDREN, GRANDPARENTS. THEY ARE VERY ANGRY. VERY ANGRY.

AND I'M JUST ASKING FOR MERCY. STINK FROM YOUR HEARTS, NOT YOUR MIND OR YOUR POCKET.

THINK FROM YOUR HEART. HELP US. CORRECT US. BECAUSE IF I WOULDN'T, I'D HAVE NEVER MADE IT IN HERE.

AND IT WOULDN'T BE A WHOLE STORY ABOUT ME, HOW I WAS DONE.

AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. JUST PLEASE HELP US IN HELPS DISTRICT FOR HELP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DIANE GLASER. DIANE GLASER.

IS NOT PRESENT. TIM. MOREHEAD. TIM MOREHEAD. HELLO? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. HI. MY NAME IS TIM MOREHEAD.

I'M THE PROPERTY MANAGER FOR 12740 HILLCREST ROAD, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEASTERN TRACK OF HILLCREST PLAZA DRIVE.

THE PROPERTY IS KNOWN AS CREEKSIDE ON HILLCREST, AND I'VE MANAGED IT NOW FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS.

OUR BUILDING, ALONG WITH THE OTHER TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT SHARE A PRIVATE DRIVE WITH THE SITE, ARE OVER 90% LEASED, WITH APPROXIMATELY 50%. MEDICAL PRACTICES AND OTHER VITAL NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS SERVICES.

WE OPPOSE HB'S REQUEST FOR REGIONAL RETAIL REZONING FOR TWO REASONS ONE, THE GENERATION OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL NOT ALLOW OUR TENANTS, PATIENTS AND CLIENTS TO REASONABLY EXIT OUR THREE OFFICE BUILDINGS IN INDUSTRY ACCEPTABLE WAIT TIMES AND TWO UNDER SAFE CONDITIONS. OUR OWNERSHIP ENGAGED A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, LAMBETH ENGINEERING, TO REVIEW TRAFFIC COUNTS AND CONDITIONS IMPACTING OUR PRIVATE DRIVE. OUR TEAM HAS REACHED OUT TO EACH COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE TO REVIEW THE FINDINGS WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

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WE THANK EACH MEMBER WHO HAS ACCEPTED OUR REQUEST AND ASKED THAT ALL MEMBERS FIND TIME TO HEAR THE FACTS DIRECTLY FROM OUR CONSULTANT.

A FEW OF THE CONSULTANT'S FINDINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS.

ONE. THAT THE WAIT TIME AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TO EXIT HILLCREST PLAZA DRIVE TO HILLCREST ROAD WILL INCREASE FROM 1.5 MINUTES TO UP TO TEN MINUTES AT PEAK TRAFFIC TIMES. TWO, THAT UP TO 80% OF THE 56,000 TRIPS PER WEEK OF HEB TRAFFIC WILL USE OUR PRIVATE ROAD, HILLCREST PLAZA DRIVE.

THREE THAT THE TWO OF THE THREE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS SOLE MEANS OF EGRESS INGRESS IS HILLCREST PLAZA DRIVE.

FOUR THAT THE ONLY OTHER WAY FOR HEB H-E-B SHOPPERS TO EXIT THIS AREA IS THE EASTBOUND LBJ SERVICE ROAD.

THIS PORTION OF THE SERVICE ROAD LEADS TO A FLOODPLAIN.

TXDOT HAS BARRICADED ENTRY NO LESS THAN TEN TIMES DURING 2025, WHEN THE SERVICE ROAD IS BARRICADED.

ALL TRAFFIC MUST USE THE PRIVATE DRIVE HILLCREST PLAZA DRIVE, CREATING FURTHER CONGESTION.

FIVE THAT HEB'S WEEKDAY PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC WILL BE EQUAL TO APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS ON THIS SMALL TEN ACRE SITE, AND SIX THAT IF THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDINGS ON THE HEB SITE WERE LEASED, THE TRAFFIC GENERATED WOULD BE ABOUT 300 CARS PER HOUR.

THE STORE IS PREDICTED TO GENERATE OVER THREE TIMES THAT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, OR 950 CARS PER HOUR.

WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST FOR REGIONAL RETAIL ZONING MORNING.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. WE REQUEST THAT THIS PROPOSAL BE SENT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THAT THE DEVELOPMENT MOVES FORWARD AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

OKAY, THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR. COULD I. COULD I SUSPEND PURPOSE, MR. ROTH? I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO ALLOW FOR THE REMAINING SPEAKERS.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? I OBJECT, CAN WE DO THE REMAINING DALLAS SPEAKERS, PLEASE? WELL, DO YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR. THAT WOULD BE FINE.

I'LL AMEND IT TO REJECTION. TO THAT. HEARING NONE.

IT'S SO ORDERED. WE'LL DO. MADAM SECRETARY. THE DALLAS SPEAKERS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, FRANCESCA O'BRIEN.

FRANCESCA. OKAY. WE'LL BE VIRTUAL. MR. O'BRIEN. OKAY, HERE I AM. OKAY.

YOU MAY. YOU MAY CONTINUE. HI. MY NAME IS FRANCESCA.

AND I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY PARENTS.

ON 4536 FOREST BEND ROAD. ONE CARLOS JIRON AND ANA CRISTINA O'BRIEN.

THEY'RE BOTH VERY ELDERLY. AND I AM HERE SPEAKING ON THAT ALLEY TO STREET THING.

MY PARENTS HOUSE. AND ALSO ABOUT NOT BRINGING UP THE MONEY FOR THEM ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ELDERLY AND DISABLED.

MY PARENTS HOUSE HAS ZERO ACCESS. TO DO IT. I ACTUALLY SENT Y'ALL PHOTOS SO YOU CAN REVIEW IT BASICALLY ON EITHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE THAT IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE.

THERE IS A GATE THAT CLOSES OFF TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DRAG, AND IT WOULD BE VERY SAFE FOR THE ELDERLY AND FOR MY PARENTS AND ALSO THE IDEA THAT RAISING IT $10 THE.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN DALLAS, TEXAS. I DON'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE.

THE IDEA THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY MAINTENANCE ON THOSE ALLEYS FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG.

I'M 48 YEARS OLD. THAT NEEDS TO BE PAVED. MY PARENTS KEEP THE ALLEY.

THEY DO THEIR JOB. THE FIRST PART OF THE ALLEY IS GOOD IF Y'ALL WANT TO? THOSE PHONE POLES ARE OLD. AND THIS THIS TRUMP ECONOMY.

YOU'RE ASKING ELDERLY PEOPLE TO PAY TEN MORE DOLLARS A MONTH.

THAT TAKES MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKET. IF Y'ALL WANT TO DO SOMETHING.

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MY SIDE OF THE PARENTS HOUSE HAS NICE CEMENTED PAVEMENT.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WAS DONE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

OR IF MY PARENTS DID THAT WHEN THEY INSTALLED THEIR FENCE.

Y'ALL NEED TO GO DOWN THAT ALLEY, TAKE OUT THE GRASS, TELL PEOPLE TO OPEN THEIR GATES.

THERE'S A LOT OF GATES IN THE ALLEY. AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR THOSE TRASH CANS.

BUT UPPING $10, ESPECIALLY ON ELDERLY PEOPLE.

AND I GOT THIS SURVEY LETTER, REALLY CAUSED A LOT OF UNDUE STRESS.

MY DAD WAS SO SCARED THAT HE WAS JUST GOING TO CHECK $10.

THIS IS VERY THIS IS VERY PREDATORY. AND HE WAS SO SCARED.

HE TOLD ME THAT I'M JUST GOING TO CHECK IT. THAT'S NOT VERY FAIR TO AN ELDERLY PERSON THAT THAT HE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY.

YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU SEND THESE SURVEYS.

AND AND I WAS VERY UPSET WHEN I SAW IT AND THAT HE FORCING TO CHECK $1,010 TO ADD ON THEIR THING THAT YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE ELDERLY AND THE DISABLED. THEY MY THAT TO MAKE THEM THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE FORCED TO PUSH TRASH CANS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND DRAG THEM AROUND THE ALLEY.

THANK YOU, JAMES FOWLER. THIS WEBINAR IS BEING TRANSCRIBED AND SUMMARIZED.

PEACE. PEACE WITH YOU, MARY. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

I REMEMBER YOU, BROTHER. YOU USED MY CAR A LONG TIME AGO AND YOU TWO AND ALL THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'M FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU SEE ME WALKING SLOW.

I'M A VIETNAM VETERAN. I HAVE NEUROPATHY. I WAS AN AGENT ORANGE.

AGENT ORANGE SPRAYED ON TOP OF ME AND I. I AM HERE CONCERNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR MY AREA.

DONALD TRUMP. I KNOW I DON'T HAVE A FEW MINUTES, AND I REMEMBER ALEX AND ROY WILLIAMS AND ALL OF THEM BUILT THIS HORSESHOE.

BUT I REPRESENT, BY THE WAY, MAYOR PRAY FOR DOCTOR CLAUDE ANDERSON.

HE'S HE'S REAL ILL AND I'M I'M WE WE WORKING WITH THESE GUYS POWER CORPORATION.

BUT I WANTED TO SET IT OUT. BUT I CAN'T SET IT OUT NO MORE.

I MOVED BACK TO DISTRICT SEVEN FIVE. MY ADDRESS IS 4233.

SWEET FENNEL. THE THE VETERANS HELPED ME GET IT.

AND MY WIFE CAME. SHE LIVES IN NORTH DALLAS. SHE CAN'T MOVE WITH ME BECAUSE SHE AIN'T HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE A TWO HOSPITALS IN MY AREA.

THEY HAVE 38 ON THIS SIDE. SO I'M GOING TO GET MY ONE MINUTE AND FIVE MINUTES OVER.

I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW. MR. TRUMP SAID IT BETTER THAN ANYBODY.

I CAN SAY IT. HE SAID AFRICAN AMERICANS BUILT THIS NATION.

YOU BUILT THIS NATION. I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW WE WERE GOING TO VOTE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOME PEOPLE DOWN HERE GOING TO LISTEN TO US BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOME BOOTS ON THE GROUND. AND I'M WITH A LARGE ORGANIZATION AND WE KNOW HOW TO GET THIS PEOPLE.

WHO'S GOING TO REPRESENT US, LISTEN TO US. LIKE I SAID, I'M 77, BUT I CAN STILL WALK.

I SERVED MY COUNTRY ARMY AND NAVY. I WAS A COMBAT VETERAN.

I'M A TUNNEL RAT, SO I'M NOT HERE TO PLAY GAMES WITH YOU.

SO IF YOU WANT TO PLAY GAMES, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY DOWN HERE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ON OUR SIDE OF TOWN ECONOMICS.

WE DON'T HAVE NO HOUSING. WE ARE. OUR PEOPLE ARE BEGGING.

THEY'RE ON EVERY CORNER. AND WE BUILT THE COUNTRY.

WE DON'T HAVE NO JOBS, NO JUSTICE AND NO REPARATIONS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE POWERNOMICS IS AFTER. WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR NO MORE PROMISES.

DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, WHATEVER YOU ARE, WE WANT SOME HELP.

OUR PEOPLE ARE DYING ON THE STREETS. THEY'RE ON EVERY CORNER IN DALLAS.

WE REPRESENT EVERYTHING TO DEAL WITH DEATH. SO WE'RE NOT PLAYING WITH YOU? I'M NOT HERE. I HAVE SOME LEVERAGE NOW. AND THIS.

YOU SEE THIS? SOMEBODY NEED TO CALL IN BECAUSE WE HAVE 6 MILLION PEOPLE THAT LISTEN TO ME.

THEY CALL ME IMANI FAITH. AND IF WE CAN'T GET YOUR HELP.

AND I'M NOT THREATENING ANYBODY. WE CAN'T GET NO HELP.

THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE A PART OF THIS GAME, OKAY? I KNOW AL IS WITH ME AND DIANE WITH ROY WILLIAMS. A WHOLE BUNCH OF JOHN AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF US.

BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU BACK A FEW MINUTES.

IMMA GET A LETTER TO MY COUNCIL PERSON. DISTRICT EIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK. THANK YOU ALEX SCOTT.

GOOD MORNING, Y'ALL. ALEX SCOTT, 6472 TRAMMELL DRIVE.

I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR IN DISTRICT NINE. AND I'M SWITCHING UP WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

BECAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK. I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE TWO EMERGING TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTS THAT WE NEED TO POSTPONE UNTIL THE CIO COMES IN AT

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THE TOP OF THE YEAR. HOWEVER BASED OFF OF THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS ARTICLE THAT I READ LAST NIGHT ANNOUNCING THAT THE DALLAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WAS AWARDED THE $280,000 AND $20,000 FOR THE BASICALLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, THE RESOLUTION FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH CITY HALL. SORRY. I'M LIKE KIND OF, LIKE, NERVOUS JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS.

I'VE SEEN A LOT OF STUFF HAPPEN PRETTY MUCH OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS WITH THE DELAYED FACILITIES, WITH PROCUREMENT CHANGING AND PUTTING AGENDA ITEMS TOGETHER.

SO THAT WAY Y'ALL CAN'T SEPARATE THEM. AND THEN AFTER READING THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS ARTICLE LAST NIGHT I'M SEEING A LOT OF ETHICAL FIDUCIARY AND CONFLICTS OF INTEREST REGARDING THIS BUILDING BECAUSE HANDING OVER THE DALLAS CITY HALL FACILITY ASSESSMENT OVER TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE THEY GOING TO USE AECOM, WHICH IS THE WORLD'S BEST KNOWN STADIUM AND ARENA CORPORATION.

ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S BUILDING OUT THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CENTER, A NEW FACILITY RIGHT NOW.

THE EDC ALSO GETS A CUT OF SELLING CITY HALL IF IT GOES THROUGH.

AND SO TWO WEEKS AGO, VALETTA, FORSYTH HILL WAS UP HERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SOCIETY WAS WILLING TO WORK WITH THIS, WITH CITY HALL TO GO ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT AND PROVIDE AN ACTUAL OUTSIDE BASICALLY INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT. AND INSTEAD, WE ALLOCATED $300,000 WORTH OF ARPA MONEY OVER TO A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT ALREADY HAS A BUDGET OF $7 MILLION.

AND THEY DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO MANAGE THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

THEY'RE NOT A PRESERVATION ORGANIZATION. AND SO JUST LIKE WITH FAIR PARK, FIRST WE'RE HANDING THIS OVER TO A CORPORATION THAT'S GOING TO CIRCUMVENT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND GET A AECOM TO BASICALLY JUST DO THIS AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE YOUR TEAM.

ANYWAY, SORRY, I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, BUT I REALLY SUGGEST THAT.

THANK YOU. Y'ALL TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THIS. THANK YOU.

BOB WILLIAMS. YOU MAY BEGIN. MY NAME IS BOB WILLIAMS. LIVED HERE IN THE CITY FOR OVER 70 YEARS.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT BASIC CITY SERVICES, POTHOLE REPAIR, WATER LINES.

THERE'S A CHRONIC WATER LEAK AT 7900 BLOCK OF RIVER FALL, ABOUT 100FT WEST OF THE CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY SERVICE ROAD. WHEN I SAY CHRONIC, I FREQUENT THAT AREA AND I OBSERVED IT PROBABLY IN MARCH, STARTED COMPLAINING IN APRIL. SEVERAL AREA APARTMENT MANAGERS HAVE ALSO COMPLAINED. I'VE CALLED 311 MULTIPLE TIMES. NO RESULT.

I'VE CALLED A DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. NO RESULT.

HERE WE ARE IN DECEMBER AND IT'S STILL THERE.

HAVE AN ENGINEERING FIRM THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, ANOTHER PROJECT I JUST MENTIONED, LACK OF CITY SERVICES AND RESPONSE FONTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID THAT THAT LONG OF A WATER LEAK IT CAUSES LIKE A SINKHOLE BELOW THE WATER LINE.

AND CITY BUSSES ARE TRASH TRUCKS, ALL SORTS OF HEAVY TRACTOR TRAILERS LOADED WITH GROCERIES, ETC. COSTS, THAT IS. SO IT'S IT'S STILL THERE.

I WENT BY THERE THIS MORNING. IT'S STILL LEAKING.

SO HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY CAN ADDRESS THAT. CITY MANAGER.

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DO I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION? CITY MANAGER? I DON'T HAVE YOUR ATTENTION.

CAN YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT PROMPTLY? ALL RIGHT.

SECOND ISSUE IS BASIC CITY SERVICES. ALSO, THE ECONOMIC ENGINE IS GETTING NEW THINGS BUILT.

THAT GOES TO ZONING ISSUES. IT GOES TO BUILDING PERMITS.

I SUBMITTED MY ENGINEERING FIRM, SUBMITTED A A REPLAT.

IT'S BASICALLY COMBINING TWO LOTS ON A STREET CALLED STARBUCKS.

DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE COFFEE COMPANY, BUT IT IS 6716 AND 6718 STARBUCK DRIVE. IT WAS SUBMITTED IN AUGUST OF 2023.

IT IS STILL NOT GONE THROUGH THE GANTLET OF JEFFERSON AND THE REGIME DOWN THERE.

AND HERE WE ARE IN DECEMBER. THE ONLY THING I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS THE REPLAT APPROVED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HASANI. BURTON.

GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR. AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

WHAT'S IN A NAME? THAT WHICH WE CALL A ROSE BY ANY OTHER NAME WOULD SMELL AS SWEET.

WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE. THE CURRENT PRESIDENT SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER AGAINST DAI LANGUAGE THAT POTENTIALLY WITHHOLDS MILLIONS OF FEDERAL FUNDS FROM CITIES LIKE DALLAS.

IF WE DON'T COMPLY. WE IN DALLAS KNOW WHAT SUCH PROGRAMS HAVE SUPPORTED SMALL BUSINESS GROWTH AND HOW THEY'VE CREATED JOBS. THAT'S WHO WE ARE AS A CITY, AND THAT'S WHO WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE LONG AFTER THIS ADMINISTRATION. REGARDLESS THAT WE CALL IT DIE A ROSE OR DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY, WE HAVE PROVEN HOW THE ECONOMICS BEHIND SUCH POLICIES AND INITIATIVES CONTINUES TO PEEL PROGRESS WELL INTO THE FUTURE. SO WE ALREADY HAVE A STRONG FOUNDATION WORKING THROUGH AGENCIES LIKE THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS REGIONAL CERTIFICATION AGENCY THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY THEMSELVES HAVE HAD TO STRIP DYE LANGUAGE FROM THEIR CERTIFICATIONS FOR FEDERAL COMPLIANCE, THEY STILL HAVE THEIR SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE CERTIFICATION, WHICH REMAINS STRONG AFTER STRIPPING THAT OUT, THAT IS A GOOD BASIS THAT WE HAVE.

AND MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER, ONE OF MY FOUNDATIONAL PHILOSOPHIES IS TO TURN OPPOSITION INTO OPPORTUNITY.

WORKING IN SOUTHERN DALLAS HAS GIVEN ME A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? COUNCIL MEMBER. DRIVING OPPORTUNITY ISN'T ABOUT PHILOSOPHICAL LANGUAGE, BUT ECONOMIC OUTCOMES. THEREFORE, AS DALLAS REDEFINES WHAT DRIVES OPPORTUNITY IN OUR CITY THE BEST. LET US NOT FORGET WHO WE ARE, WHAT HAS MADE US GREAT, AND BUILD ON THAT AS WE ENDURE THROUGH THE CURRENT PRESIDENT'S REGRESSIVE APPROACH TO ECONOMICS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR DALLAS RESIDENCE.

OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS. THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CONCLUSION OF ITS CITY BUSINESS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA.

[1. 25-2528A Approval of the Minutes of the November 5, 2025 City Council Meeting]

THEN YOUR FIRST ITEM. AGENDA ITEM ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER NOVEMBER 5TH, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

SECOND, I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM PLEASE. AGENDA ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERATION.

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I'M SORRY. AGENDA ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

[2. 25-2857A Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

THIS MORNING YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL AND FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS TO THE ARTS AND CULTURAL ADVISORY COMMISSION, AMBER B PICKENS, IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. MISS PICKENS MEETS THE PERFORMING ARTS SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.

ADJUNCT MEMBERS JODIE GOGGINS IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON MR. GOGGINS. IT'S NOT REQUIRED FOR A SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.

MITCHELL BOONE IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON MR..

BOONE MEETS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM A FAITH BASED ORGANIZATION, SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE CITY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

GREGORY FRANKLIN IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR TO THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION BOARD.

LESLIE R C IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON AND ALSO TO THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION BOARD.

JACKIE MARSHALL IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ TO THE JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMISSION.

CHRISTINA CHUA IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION.

SCOTTY SMITH IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA MR. SMITH MEETS THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER SPECIAL QUALIFICATION.

ALSO TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, JEFFREY ROSANSKY IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR MR. ROSANSKY MEETS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE MUNICIPAL LIBRARY BOARD.

DANIEL TATUM IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN TO THE SENIOR AFFAIRS COMMISSION.

DEBBIE D AUSTIN IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEMBER BLAIR.

MISS AUSTIN MEETS THE 55 PLUS YEARS OF AGE SPECIAL QUALIFICATION YOUR NOMINEES FOR FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENT TO THE CIVIL SERVICE BOARD.

REGINA L WALTON IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEMBER BAZALDUA TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE 13 BOARD GRANT PARKS GRANT GRAND PARK SOUTH.

ANTHONY BURTON IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA AND TO THE REINVESTMENT ZONE TEN BOARD, SOUTHWESTERN MEDICAL. VALERIE GAGAN IS BEING NOMINATED BY MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. MR. MAYOR, YOUR BRIEFINGS CONTINUE.

ALRIGHTY. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

[A. 25-3027A Federal Compliance Update i. Drivers of Opportunity Policy Framework, Omnibus Resolution and Omnibus Ordinance Update ii. DRIVE - Developing Regional & Inclusive Vendor Enterprises Policy]

NOW FOR OUR BRIEFINGS FOR TODAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M PLEASED TO INTRODUCE OUR VERY FIRST BRIEFING, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT FOR TODAY.

THIS BRIEFING IS IMPORTANT AS WE CONTINUE OUR WORK AND OUR CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO THE FEDERAL DIRECTIVES THAT WERE ISSUED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

THIS MOMENT HAS GIVEN US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REIMAGINE OUR POLICIES, LOOK AT OUR WORK THROUGH A NEW LENS, AND RETHINK HOW WE CAN ENSURE THAT DALLAS REMAINS A CITY WHERE OPPORTUNITY IS NOT JUST A PROMISE, BUT IT'S A PRACTICE. IN THIS PRESENTATION THIS MORNING, YOU'LL HEAR HOW OUR TEAM HAS TAKEN YOUR FEEDBACK AND EMBEDDED IT INTO SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WILL BE BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL NEXT WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER THE 10TH.

THE OMNIBUS ORDINANCE AND RESOLUTION, OUR NEW DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY POLICY FRAMEWORK THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU EARLIER IN THE FALL.

AND FINALLY, THE DEVELOPING REGIONAL AND INCLUSIVE VENDOR ENTERPRISE THAT WE REFER TO AS THE NEW DRIVE POLICY FRAMEWORK.

AS YOUR CITY MANAGER, IT GIVES ME GREAT JOY AND PRIDE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO ENSURE THAT THIS WORK THAT WE BRING FORWARD IN CLOSE COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS WORK THAT WE BELIEVE WILL CONTINUE TO ALLOW FOR POLICIES TO BE MEANINGFUL IN HOW WE DRIVE FUTURE SUCCESS ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.

WE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO LEVERAGE THIS TIME AND THIS MOMENT RESPONDING TO THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT ALSO LEADING WITH PURPOSE AND ENSURING THAT EVERY DALLAS RESIDENT HAS A FAIR SHOT AT SUCCESS.

I'M PLEASED WITH THE TEAM THAT'S WORKED ON THIS, AND TODAY I'D LIKE TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER LIZ PEREIRA AND HER TEAM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THE FRAMEWORKS, THE POLICIES, AND SHARE WITH YOU OUR NEXT STEPS. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, LIZ. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT.

GOOD MORNING, MISTER MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, LIZ PEREIRA HERE WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND ALSO THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT, I'M JOINED BY DIRECTOR THOR ERICKSON, DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND CHIEF OPPORTUNITY OFFICER JESSICA GALICIA, AND ASSISTANT DIRECTOR CHRISTINA DA SILVA. TODAY WE ARE PRESENTING ON THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY,

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A POLICY FRAMEWORK THAT WILL HELP THE CITY SET ITS PRIORITIES, ALIGN OUR PARTNERSHIPS, AND MEASURE IMPACT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS MOVING FORWARD. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

IN THIS PRESENTATION, WE WILL REVIEW THE STEPS THAT WE'VE TAKEN TO COMPLY WITH THESE FEDERAL DIRECTIVES THAT WE HAVE BRIEFED YOU ON PREVIOUSLY.

DIVE DEEPER INTO THE COMPONENTS OF THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY THAT HAVE BEEN BRIEFED AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE, ARTS AND CULTURE COMMISSION, AS WELL AS DISCUSS THE RESEARCH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WENT INTO THAT HAS GONE INTO BUILDING THIS POLICY FRAMEWORK.

AND FINALLY, WE'LL CLOSE WITH OUR NEXT STEPS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE NEW FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDERS DIRECT DIRECTLY AFFECTING HOW CITIES STRUCTURE ITS PROGRAMS. THOSE CITIES THAT RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDING. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE WILL GIVE A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THOSE CHANGES AND SUMMARIZE HOW OUR CITY IS RESPONDING THROUGH LEGAL REVIEW, DEPARTMENTAL SELF-ASSESSMENTS, AND DEVELOPING NEW POLICY FRAMEWORKS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AGAIN, BEGINNING IN JANUARY 2025, THE NEW FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION ISSUED A SERIES OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT CHANGED THE RULES FOR HOW WE OPERATE CITY PROGRAMS AND USE FEDERAL FUNDS.

WE SHOULD BE ON A PREVIOUS SLIDE. I BELIEVE ON JUNE 25TH, THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED CITY MANAGER TOLBERT TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO COMPLY WITH THE ISSUED DIRECTIVES. THE FOLLOWING DAY, OUR CITY MANAGER ON JUNE 26TH ESTABLISHED THE FEDERAL GRANT COMPLIANCE TASK FORCE, WHICH IS REPRESENTED TODAY IN THE TWO BRIEFINGS THAT YOU WILL HEAR FROM, BUT INCLUDES EVERY DEPARTMENT REPORTING TO THE CITY MANAGER ALONGSIDE OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WHO HAVE GUIDED US THROUGH THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS.

WE'VE LOOKED AT CONDUCTING A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF CITY PLANS, POLICIES AND PROGRAMS TO IDENTIFY CHANGES WHERE NEEDED AND WHETHER THAT MEANT SUNSETTING DOCUMENTS, PLANS, INITIATIVES OR REFINING THOSE THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTED HERE BEFORE YOU AND IN YOUR EXHIBITS TO ALIGN WITH THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.

BUT EVEN MORE SO TO REFRESH OUR WORK RELATED TO COMMUNITY IMPACT.

ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE EXAMPLES OF FEDERAL DIRECTIVES THAT WE HAVE REVIEWED WITH YOU PREVIOUSLY THAT WE'VE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

THESE DIRECTIVES BEGAN TO BE ISSUED IN JANUARY, BUT WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED THEREAFTER.

UNDER THESE DIRECTIVES, CERTAIN CATEGORIES REMAIN PERMISSIBLE FOR POLICY DESIGN, INCLUDING VETERAN STATUS, DISABILITY, AND SOCIO ECONOMIC STATUS, AND WHERE APPROPRIATE, OUR TEAMS HAVE INCLUDED THESE CATEGORIES IN OUR POLICY REVIEWS. NEXT SLIDE. SO SO WHAT'S IMPORTANT TODAY IS THE OMNIBUS RESOLUTION AND THE OMNIBUS ORDINANCE THAT ARE IN YOUR EXHIBIT PACKETS.

THE WORK YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT TODAY CULMINATES IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE TWO DOCUMENTS, THE OMNIBUS ORDINANCE AND THE OMNIBUS RESOLUTION.

TOGETHER, THESE ITEMS ARE ALIGNING OUR CITY PROGRAMS AND POLICIES WITH THE NEW FEDERAL DIRECTIVES USING A CONSISTENT CITYWIDE APPROACH. EVERY DEPARTMENT, AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, COMPLETED ITS SELF-ASSESSMENT AND WHERE WE HAD CONCERNS, WE'VE REVIEWED THEM NOT ONLY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT WITH OUR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP.

BOTH THE OMNIBUS ORDINANCE AND THE OMNIBUS RESOLUTION BRING FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION ON DECEMBER 10TH IN THE AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 10TH, 2025. AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE FEDERAL COMPLIANCE PROCESS, OUR TEAM HAS ALSO DEVELOPED TWO OVERARCHING FRAMEWORKS TO KEEP OUR WORK FOCUSED.

THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE ALL CHAMPIONED AND ADOPTED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS RELATED TO IMPACT.

WE'RE FOCUSING ON INNOVATION AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON COMMUNITY IMPACT.

AND OUR INTENTION IS THAT YOU WILL GREAT US BASED ON THOSE PRINCIPLES, THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY FRAMEWORK AND THE DRIVE PROCUREMENT POLICY ARE

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BOTH PART OF OUR TODAY'S BRIEFING. SO THIS TEAM HERE AT THE TABLE WILL PRESENT ON THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY AND THE FOLLOWING TEAM, LED BY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER DENZEL GIBSON AND DIRECTOR JUANITA ORTIZ.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPING DRIVE FRAMEWORK.

WITH THAT, I TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR THOR ERICKSON TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND ON THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. LIZ. CITY MANAGER, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

I'M THOR ERICKSON, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT.

THANKS FOR HAVING US TODAY. I'LL BEGIN WITH HOW DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY CAME TOGETHER.

YOU CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THE ECONOMIC CONTEXT WE FACE AND THE FEDERAL GUIDE RAILS THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT AND OUR ROLE THAT OUR PARTNERS PLAY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. BEGINNING IN JANUARY OF 2025 AS THE NEW FEDERAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS WERE ISSUED, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT AND THE EXECUTIVE TEAM BEGAN CONVENING LEADERS FROM DALLAS ANCHOR INSTITUTIONS, HOSPITALS, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, BUSINESS CHAMBERS, TRANSPORTATION AGENCIES, PHILANTHROPY, AND OTHERS. AND ACROSS THOSE CONVERSATIONS, PARTNERS CONSISTENTLY EMPHASIZE THAT WE NEED STRONGER ALIGNMENT ACROSS THE CITY, A SHARED WAY TO TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITY, AND MORE CONSISTENT COLLABORATION AND DATA SHARING TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS.

THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY. FRAMEWORK GREW DIRECTLY OUT OF THAT ENGAGEMENT AND IS DESIGNED TO GIVE THE CITY AND OUR PARTNERS A SHAME, A SHARED FRAMEWORK TO ESTABLISH CLEAR PRIORITIES FOR RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, GUIDE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE ANCHOR INSTITUTIONS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND MAKE AND REPORT IMPACT THAT ARE MAKING DALLAS RESIDENTS UP FOR OPPORTUNITY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY IS NOT JUST AN OUTWARD FACING.

IT'S DESIGNED TO OPERATE INSIDE THE CITY OF DALLAS ORGANIZATIONS.

THIS FRAMEWORK HELPS US BREAK DOWN SILOS ACROSS CITY PILLARS BY ALERTING DEPARTMENTS UNDER COMMON DRIVERS AND DOMAINS.

THE VISUAL ON THIS SLIDE SHOWS HOW EACH PILLAR OF OUR ORGANIZATION CORE SAFE, VIBRANT, GROWING, LIVABLE, SUSTAINABLE AND FISCALLY SOUND. ALIGN UNDER THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY.

THEY GIVE BOTH OUR PARTNERS AND OUR DEPARTMENTS A CONSISTENT WAY TO TALK ABOUT, PLAN AND MEASURE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL DALLAS RESIDENTS.

NOW THAT I HAVE SHARED WHAT CATALYZED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FRAMEWORK, I TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER JESSICA GALLISHAW TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY OPPORTUNITY POLICY FRAMEWORK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THOR. I'M JESSICA GALLISHAW, DEPUTY DIRECTOR AND CHIEF OPPORTUNITY OFFICER FOR THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. AND OVER THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, I'M GOING TO DIVE DEEPER INTO WHAT SHAPES OUR DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY POLICY FRAMEWORK AND INCLUDE THE ECONOMIC DATA AND NATIONAL RESEARCH AND THE RESIDENT PRESIDENT FEEDBACK THAT HAS INFORMED IT.

SO CAN WE MOVE THE SLIDES FORWARD? TWO SLIDES PLEASE.

THANK YOU. ONE MORE. THANK YOU. EVEN AS DALLAS GROWS, MANY HOUSEHOLDS ARE CONTINUING TO STRUGGLE.

WE KNOW THAT NEARLY 1 IN 5 CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY LIVE IN A HOUSEHOLD THAT STRUGGLES TO MEET BASIC NEEDS.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE LAGGING BEHIND STATE AND NATIONAL AVERAGES WHEN IT COMES TO IMPORTANT THINGS LIKE HOME OWNERSHIP RATES.

THESE THINGS, TAKEN TOGETHER, REALLY UNDERSCORE THE IMPORTANCE OF COORDINATED INVESTMENTS ACROSS HOUSING, EMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION, HEALTH AND SAFETY, AND THAT THESE ARE NEEDED TO REALLY CREATE LONG LASTING OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY FRAMEWORK IS INTENDED TO HELP THE CITY TARGET OUR EFFORTS WHERE HARDSHIP IS THE MOST CONCENTRATED, AND TO BE MORE INTENTIONAL ABOUT HOW AND WHERE MUNICIPAL RESOURCES ARE INVESTED.

NEXT SLIDE. THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY POLICY FRAMEWORK IS DRAFTED AS A STRATEGIC GUIDE THAT DEFINES PRIORITIES, GOALS AND IMPLEMENTATION STANDARDS FOR THIS WORK TO INFORM CITY PLANS, PROGRAMS AND INVESTMENTS, AND ALSO TO CLARIFY WHERE THE CITY LEADS AND WHERE WE SHOULD RELY ON PARTNERS.

AND THAT POLICY DOCUMENT IS INCLUDED IN THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE ACTUAL FRAMEWORK DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY, AND ALSO HIGHLIGHTS THE CITY'S ROLE UNDER EACH DRIVER.

IT HIGHLIGHTS THE FIVE DRIVERS THROUGH WHICH THE CITY ADVANCES.

OPPORTUNITY. THOSE DRIVERS ARE LISTED ACROSS THE TOP AND REPRESENT THESE CORE BUCKET AREAS UNDER WHICH WE CAN ALIGN OUR RESOURCES AND EFFORTS.

THEY INCLUDE GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT. HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION.

OPPORTUNITY. RICH NEIGHBORHOODS. HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT AND ACCESS TO CARE, HEALTH CARE, AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND WELL-BEING FOR EACH DRIVER.

WE ALSO HAVE EMBEDDED A NUMBER OF UNDERLYING DOMAINS THAT CLARIFY THE CITY'S ROLE TO LEAD,

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COLLABORATE, OR SUPPORT. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL SEE UNDER OPPORTUNITY RICH NEIGHBORHOODS, THE CITY IS WELL POSITIONED TO LEAD THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF POLICIES THAT SUPPORT AFFORDABLE, STABLE HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE.

LOOKING AT THE CITY ROLE MATRIX, THE GREEN IMAGE IS REALLY REFERENCING AREAS THAT WE BELIEVE THE CITY IS POSITIONED TO LEAD THE HANDSHAKE. THE BLUE HANDSHAKE REPRESENTS OUR COLLABORATIVE OPPORTUNITIES.

AND THEN THE ORANGE MEGAPHONE IS WHERE WE CAN BE A VOICE OF SUPPORT AND ADVOCACY FOR CORE EFFORTS.

IN CONTRAST, YOU'LL SEE UNDER ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORTATION DOMAIN, WE TYPICALLY RELY ON KEY PARTNERS LIKE DART TO LEAVE WHILE SERVING AS A COLLABORATOR, OF COURSE, THROUGH OUR TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND CITYWIDE.

NEXT SLIDE. SO BRINGING THIS TOGETHER, THIS SLIDE REALLY SUMMARIZES THE CORE OF THIS FRAMEWORK IN THREE INTERLOCKING PARTS PRIORITIES, PARTNERSHIPS, AND IMPACT.

CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS PROVIDED AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE BRIEFING LAST WEEK.

THE PRIORITIES DESCRIBE WHAT WE AIM TO CHANGE, AND THEY'RE ANCHORED IN THREE LARGE, IMPORTANT AREAS OF UPWARD ECONOMIC MOBILITY PUBLIC SAFETY AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. THEY'RE THEN SUPPORTED BY FIVE DRIVERS AND DOMAINS THAT ARE GROUNDED IN RESEARCH AND RESIDENT EXPERIENCE.

THE PARTNERSHIPS DEFINE THE ROLE THAT THE CITY PLAYS WHEN WE LEAD, WHEN WE COLLABORATE, AND WHERE WE SUPPORT THE CITY.

ROLE MATRIX, WHICH YOU JUST SAW, DOES PROVIDE SOME OF THAT GUIDANCE.

AND THEN THE IMPACT REALLY DESCRIBES HOW THE RESIDENTS WOULD EXPERIENCE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THEIR DAILY LIVES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE'LL BE DEMONSTRATING THAT THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITY INDEX, A MAP AND DASHBOARD WITH BASELINES AND TARGETS ESTABLISHED TO ALIGN WITH EACH DRIVER AND MANY OF THE DOMAINS, AS WELL AS RESIDENT FOCUSED INVESTMENTS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO OUR PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING EFFORTS.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITY INDEX, WHICH WILL SERVE AS BOTH AN INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL FACING TOOL TO HELP BOTH INFORM AND DRIVE EFFORTS RELATED TO THIS POLICY, AND ALSO TO HELP US DEMONSTRATE THE IMPACT OF OUR WORK.

YOU CAN SEE THE TOOL AS THE BACKBONE FOR HOW WE TRACK THESE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY ACROSS THE CITY.

THE TOOL MAPS ASSETS AND GAPS BY THE DRIVERS AND DOMAINS.

IT'LL CREATE BASELINE TO TARGET PROGRESS FOR EACH DRIVER AND CONNECTS OUR DATA TO OUR DECISIONS, ESPECIALLY AROUND CAPITAL PROJECTS, HOUSING INITIATIVES, AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

DATA SOURCES INCLUDE NATIONAL DATA SETS LIKE THE CENSUS, THE OPPORTUNITY ATLAS INSTITUTE, URBAN INSTITUTE'S UPWARD MOBILITY INDEX, AND THE POLICY MAP DATA.

LOCAL SOURCES LIKE DEPARTMENTAL PERFORMANCE MEASURES, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND DEPARTMENTAL BASELINES WILL BE INTEGRATED.

FOR EXAMPLE, AN AGING AND HOUSING. WE COULD IDENTIFY NEIGHBORHOODS WITH HIGHER CONCENTRATIONS OF OLDER ADULTS AND LAYER HOUSING CONDITIONS, TRANSIT ACCESS, HEALTH SERVICES, PARKS AND SAFETY INDICATORS TO GUIDE INVESTMENTS.

WE'LL ALSO BUILD A PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD SO THAT THE PUBLIC, OUR CITY COUNCIL AND OUR STAFF CAN ALL LOOK AT THE SAME PICTURE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL CONDITIONS. NEXT SLIDE. BY MAPPING CITY PROGRAMS AND INVESTMENTS AT THE MOST LOCAL LEVEL POSSIBLE, THE SMALLEST LEVEL POSSIBLE, RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHERE IT'S HAPPENING.

THESE. THIS GIVES OUR COMMUNITIES A CLEAR VIEW OF HOW RESOURCES ARE BEING DEPLOYED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND HELPS TO BUILD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW CITY ACTIONS CONNECT TO THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY.

FOR OUR INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL PARTNERS, HAVING A SHARED VIEW OF THE DATA ALLOWS US TO BETTER ALIGN EFFORTS, REDUCE DUPLICATION, AND ADDRESS SERVICE GAPS MORE EFFECTIVELY.

WE'LL BE USING CONSISTENT, TRUSTED DATA TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY FRAMEWORK THAT ALLOWS US TO ADJUST OUR STRATEGIES AS NEEDED, BASED ON WHAT THE DATA SHOWS AND SUPPORTS A CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT MODEL AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

THE DATA INFRASTRUCTURE IS MORE THAN A REPORTING TOOL.

IT'S A FOUNDATION FOR SMARTER GOVERNANCE AND STRONGER IMPACT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

NEXT SLIDE. AND AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, CRISTINA DA SILVA, WHO IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS AND RESIDENT FEEDBACK.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA DASILVA, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT.

SO THESE NEXT SLIDES, I'M GOING TO BE GOING OVER HOW WE TESTED THE FRAMEWORK WITH RESIDENTS AND PARTNERS TO VALIDATE THE PRIORITIES AND THE LANGUAGE WE WERE USING TO

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COMMUNICATE IT. THE NEXT SLIDE SUMMARIZES HOW WE ENGAGE RESIDENTS, WHAT WE HEARD, AND HOW THAT FEEDBACK REFINED OUR FRAMEWORK, MIRRORING THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS PROVIDED AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING.

NEXT SLIDE. OKAY, THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO BE.

SO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO DATE. TO SUPPORT ENGAGEMENT, WE INTENTIONALLY USED MULTIPLE CHANNELS TO HEAR FROM RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS.

THIS HAS INCLUDED PUBLIC COMMUNITY FORUMS, COMMISSION MEETINGS ON THE GROUND, OUTREACH AT COMMUNITY EVENTS LIKE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, AND AN ONLINE PLATFORM WHERE RESIDENTS COULD RESPOND TO SURVEYS, ASK QUESTIONS AND LEAVE COMMENTS.

WE HELD ALSO ABOUT 12 PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS, REACHED ALL 14 COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND RECEIVED MORE THAN 280 CONTRIBUTIONS IN THE FORM OF SURVEY RESPONSES, QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. WE CHOSE THIS MIXED APPROACH BECAUSE WE WANTED RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND IN THEIR OWN WORDS AND IN SETTINGS THAT WORK BEST FOR THEM, NOT JUST BY CHECKING RESPONSES ON A FORM.

TO CAPTURE THE ONLINE FEEDBACK, WE ALSO USED AN INTEGRATED SOFTWARE, WHICH ALLOWED US TO COLLECT THE IDEAS AND GATHER RESPONSES IN A WAY THAT RESIDENTS COULD EASILY ACCESS. NEXT SLIDE. SO A KEY QUESTION FOR US WAS DOES THIS FRAMEWORK REFLECT WHAT RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE AND CARE ABOUT? ABOUT 93% OF RESPONDENTS SAID DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY DO OR SOMEWHAT REFLECT THE ISSUES THAT MATTERED MOST TO THEM.

THOSE THAT SAID NO OR SOMEWHAT HAD THE CHANCE TO TELL US WHAT THEY FELT WAS MISSING, WHICH LED TO ADDED DOMAINS OR REFINEMENT OF HOW WE COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS WORK. OVERALL, THIS TELLS US THAT THE FRAMEWORK IS RESONATING AND THAT RESIDENTS CAN SEE THEIR OWN PRIORITIES REFLECTED IN IT, WHILE ALSO HELPING US REFINE THE DETAILS. NEXT SLIDE.

THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE GATHERED LEADS TO THE FOLLOWING IMPLICATIONS.

BROAD VALIDATION. MOST RESPONDENTS SAID THAT DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY REFLECT WHAT MATTERS TO THEM, WITH 93% RESPONDING YES OR SOMEWHAT CONNECTED ISSUES.

SO RESIDENTS, WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT JOBS, HOUSING, YOUTH ACTIVITIES, TRANSPORTATION AND SAFETY, THEY ALL TALKED ABOUT IT AS PART OF THE SAME CONVERSATION, REINFORCING THE NEED FOR HOLISTIC FRAMEWORK.

PLACE MATTERS. RESIDENTS CONSISTENTLY ASKED US TO SHOW RESULTS WHERE I LIVE, WHICH POINTS TO DATA THAT CAN MEASURE BE MEASURED AT THE MOST LOCAL LEVEL POSSIBLE. NEXT SLIDE. SO WE WILL BE USING THIS FEEDBACK.

WE'VE USED THIS FEEDBACK TO HELP REFINE OUR FRAMEWORK.

AND AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM ALL THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND RESIDENTS THAT ATTENDED.

SO NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER BACK TO JESSICA, WHO CAN WALK US THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO MOVING FORWARD, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OMNIBUS ORDINANCE, THE OMNIBUS RESOLUTION AND THE DRIVE POLICY FRAMEWORK, WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY POLICY FOR ADOPTION ON DECEMBER 10TH TO CITY COUNCIL.

NEXT SLIDE. AND I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME, WE ARE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR COLLEAGUES FROM THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES, I BELIEVE.

I. I BELIEVE WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS NOW RELATED TO THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY FRAMEWORK AND THEN EXCUSE OURSELVES TO INTRODUCE OUR CLIENTS, OUR COLLEAGUES WHO ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON THE POLICY FRAMEWORK.

SO SO THANK YOU, JESSICA. THANK YOU, TEAM, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

MADAM CITY MANAGER AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE'RE NOW READY AND POSTURED TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND CRITIQUES.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE STAFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

AGAIN, JUST EVERYTHING IN THE NAME, SWITCHING IT, I THINK MR. BURTON MENTIONED IT IS WHAT'S IN THE NAME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND IT'S IT'S DRIVERS OF POVERTY.

SWITCHING THAT TO DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY AUTOMATICALLY CHANGES THE FRAMEWORK IN WHICH FROM WHICH WE EVEN START.

RIGHT. BECAUSE BEFORE IT WAS MORE ON A DEFENSE.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO STOP AND PREVENT VERSUS LET'S MOVE PEOPLE IN A MORE POSITIVE DIRECTION.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING ONE, THAT THE CITY IS NOT ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING AND NARROWING IT DOWN TO THESE FIVE AREAS HELPS US BETTER POSITION WHERE WE FIT INTO THE ROLE.

AND AS WE THAT SHARED FRAMEWORK MODEL HELPS US PULL OUR PARTNERS IN IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND GIVES US THAT COLLECTIVE EFFORT.

SO I'M VERY PLEASED THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION.

AND AGAIN I PRAYED THIS MORNING THAT STAFF IS, IS ABOUT THAT EXECUTION.

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AND THIS REALLY DOES GIVE US THE FRAMEWORK. SO I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE THIS HOW WE'RE PLANNING TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND I WILL REMAIN VERY OPTIMISTIC AND CONTINUE TO PRAY ON THE EXECUTION OF THIS AND ITS IMPACT ON HOW WE SERVE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TO RESHAPE THIS IN SPITE OF SOME OF THE ATTEMPTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN AND AROUND US.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR GRACEY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE PANEL WE HAVE ASSEMBLED HERE? SHOCKINGLY, MR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU, STAFF, FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ROLE IN THE FORMULATION OF THE FEDERAL DIRECTIVES.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE SIMPLY RESPONDING TO THOSE EDICTS COMING FROM ON HIGH.

BUT WITH REGARD TO SLIDE FIVE, THE SUMMARY OF FEDERAL DIRECTIVES UNDER IMMIGRATION COMPLIANCE, THERE'S A STATEMENT IN BLACK THAT THE CITY MUST SUPPORT DHS EFFORTS TO LOCATE, INVESTIGATE, AND DEPORT UNDOCUMENTED RESIDENTS. WHAT DO YOU PERCEIVE AS OUR OBLIGATIONS IN THAT REGARD. AND IF YOU SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME. HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THEM? SO I'LL JUST JUMP IN AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY FOR THE QUESTION.

I THINK AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THROUGH ALL OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS ALWAYS HAD A SUPPORTIVE ROLE AS IT RELATES TO COMPLIANCE AROUND IMMIGRATION.

AND SO WE CONSIDER THE WORK THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING AND HOW WE HAVE TREATED THAT IN THE PAST TO BE THE WAY WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO I KNOW THAT I DON'T SEE OUR CHIEF OF POLICE IN THE ROOM, BUT WE'VE REALLY ADDRESSED THIS FROM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND IT IS COMPLIANCE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A ACTUAL LEGAL COMPLIANCE THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THAT SUPPORT AS NECESSARY.

AND THAT'S HOW WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PROCEED, EVEN UNDER THE NEW EXECUTIVE ORDERS.

THE SUPPORT AND THE ASSIST IS WHERE WE CONTINUE TO TO FOCUS OUR ENERGY AND OUR ATTENTION.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WELL, WE ASKED THIS OUT AT GREAT LENGTH DURING OUR RECENT HEARING ABOUT 287 G.

AND THE UNANIMOUS DECISION, I BELIEVE, OF THE COUNCIL WAS NOT TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM.

I MAY BE OFF ON WHETHER THERE WERE 1 OR 2 VOTES TO THE CONTRARY, BUT IT WAS CLEARLY THE CONSENSUS OF THE COUNCIL.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BACKING INTO A CONTRARY DECISION THROUGH ADOPTION OF THESE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY IN AN EFFORT TO SUPPORT DHS EFFORTS. AND I THINK MY REMAINING QUESTION FOR YOU, CITY MANAGER, IS THIS THIS POLICY INDICATE ANY CHANGE IN DPD'S CURRENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WITH REGARD TO UNDOCUMENTED RESIDENTS? NO, SIR. THIS DRIVE. THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY IS ABOUT HOW WE ADJUST IN LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE DRIVE OPPORTUNITY.

WE'VE ADDED PUBLIC SAFETY AS ONE OF THOSE NEW AREAS AS IT RELATES TO THE WAY THAT WE DO THAT CREATING SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS, ENSURING THAT OUR COMMUNITY EFFORTS, POLICE AND EFFORTS AND ALL OF THAT REMAINS.

SO THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE CURRENT OPERATIONS THAT WE'RE DOING WITHIN DPD.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR CURRENT PRACTICES, AND THOSE PRACTICES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY WE'VE OPERATED PREVIOUSLY.

SO THIS DOES NOT CHANGE ANYTHING. THIS IS NOT DIRECTLY ATTACHED TO WHAT WE DID HAVE IN THE HEARING AROUND OUR ACTIVE PARTICIPATION AND SIGNING UP FOR THE 287 PROGRAM. THIS IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT IN HOW WE SUPPORT GOING FORWARD, WHAT THOSE INITIATIVES ARE, AND DOING IT IN THE ROLE OF WHAT WE'RE ALREADY OBLIGATED TO DO FROM A LEGAL, FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT. OKAY. SO THAT'S IT. SO THERE'S NO CHANGES TO OPERATIONAL ENVIRONMENT.

GREAT. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. AND THEN REFERRING TO A LATER UNNUMBERED SLIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE FOLLOWING 12.

SO 13 THE DALLAS DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY FIVE ARE IDENTIFIED.

THE SECOND IS HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION. THE THIRD PERTAINS TO HEALTH CARE.

THESE ARE AREAS OF ENDEAVOR THAT THE CITY HAS NOT TRADITIONALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN.

AND THIS ISSUE WAS RAISED AT THE COMMITTEE BRIEFING AS WELL.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY, OTHER THAN IN AN ABSTRACT MANNER, WE'RE DISCUSSING EDUCATION POLICY

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OR HEALTH CARE POLICY, WHICH ARE REALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. SO AS PART OF THE ENGAGEMENT WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND LOOKING AT WHAT OTHER.

I WOULD SAY DRIVERS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT REALLY DO IMPACT ON ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY, THOSE COME UP OFTEN.

WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN DO AND THE CITY SHOULD NOT DO, BUT THERE ARE ALSO WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN COLLABORATE AND BE A PARTNER.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE TWO THAT YOU'VE RAISED, WE SEE THE CITY'S ROLE AS A SUPPORT ROLE, NOT AN ACTIVE ROLE. NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LEADING IN THOSE AREAS, BUT THAT WE WILL DEFINITELY BE AT THE TABLE.

WE WILL PARTNER AS NEEDED. THE RESOURCES WILL COME OUTSIDE THE CITY, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT HOW WE SUPPORT THE OVERALL ECOSYSTEM THAT REALLY DOES DRIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY, BUT THOSE ARE NOT ONES THAT THE CITY WOULD BE LEADING.

AND NECESSARILY ACTUALLY MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IS HOW WE SUPPORT THOSE EFFORTS IN COLLABORATION WITH OTHER EXTERNAL PARTNERS.

THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. AND MAY I ALSO ADD THAT CHAIR RIDLEY, THAT THIS IS, I THINK, IN RECENT MEMORY, THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CREATE PROACTIVELY A MATRIX, RIGHT, SO THAT WE ARE ZONING IN ON THOSE AREAS THAT YOU FIND WHERE WE WHERE WE'RE CALLING OUT AS LEADING WITH THE GREEN ICONS AND PUSHING BACK AND SUPPORTING OR SHAKING HANDS WITH COLLABORATORS.

AND SO THAT CITY ROLE MATRIX IS, IS ENUNCIATED IN PAGE FIVE OF THE POLICY FRAMEWORK THAT'S IN YOUR EXHIBITS.

BUT WE, WE HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR FROM OUR CITY MANAGER WHO CHARGED US TO, TO FOCUS AND FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL AS, AS WE'VE BRIEFED THIS, THAT WE SHOULD DRIVE IN OUR LANE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO THROUGH THESE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY.

OKAY. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THOSE DRIVERS ARE IMPORTANT INFLUENCERS OF THE WELFARE OF OUR RESIDENTS, BUT THERE ARE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE.

AND I'M JUST CAUTIOUS ABOUT THEIR PRESENCE IN THIS PRESENTATION, INDICATING THAT WE WOULD TAKE ON OR SEEK AN ENHANCED ROLE IN THOSE FUNCTIONS BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY DONE, AND REQUIRING A COMMITMENT OF RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE NOT ALLOCATED TO THEM.

AND SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. ACM LIZ AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE MAY HAVE A ROLE IN SUPPORTING THOSE FUNCTIONS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CONTEMPLATING ADDING RESOURCES TO ENHANCE SERVICES IN THOSE AREAS AND INVADE THE PROVINCE OF OTHER ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

YES, SIR. AND WE DEFINITELY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

WE'VE HEARD THE COUNCIL VERY LOUD AND CLEAR. I THINK WHAT WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING IS THAT THIS ECOSYSTEM STILL HAVE THOSE FACTORS ARE STILL BUILT IN.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY SLIDE NUMBER 13.

THERE ARE SO MANY OTHERS, WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORTATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTINUING THE WORK AROUND HOW WE LOOK AT HEALTHY FOOD ACCESS.

THOSE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES WHERE THE CITY WANTS TO ENSURE THAT THAT WORK IS BEING DONE.

AND WE ACTUALLY CAN CHAMPION THAT WORK. NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE'RE DOING THE WORK OR THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE RESOURCES FOR IT, BUT THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES THAT WE ARE ALREADY LOOKING AT.

HOW DO WE CONVENE? HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE BEING SUPPORTED? AND SOME OF IT COULD JUST BE THE CITY SAYING, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO APPLAUDING YOU FOR, AND HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER. BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT REQUIRES DIRECT RESOURCES FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO WE'VE HEARD THE COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHY ON SLIDE 13, WE TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE THINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LEADING WHERE WE NEED TO COLLABORATE AND WHERE WE ACTUALLY JUST NEED TO SUPPORT.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN INTENTIONAL ABOUT POINTING THOSE THINGS OUT BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY OTHER EXAMPLES LIKE THE ONES THAT YOU'VE RAISED.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. SO FINAL QUESTION.

DOES THIS MATRIX INDICATE THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY OR CONTEMPLATE IN THE FUTURE LIAISON WITH THE COUNTY ON HEALTH CARE ISSUES OR WITH DISD OR HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS WITH REGARD TO EDUCATION, EVEN IF IT'S TO EXPRESS THAT WE ARE READY TO ASSUME A SUPPORT ROLE OR A COLLABORATIVE ROLE.

AS WE HAVE MENTIONED IN, I THINK THOR COVERED IT IN HIS SLIDE CHAIR, RIDLEY, THAT THE CITY MANAGER REALLY TOOK A LEADING ROLE IN JANUARY, CONNECTING COLLABORATOR, COLLABORATING WITH HER PEERS IN THE SAME ROOM.

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THOSE ANCHOR INSTITUTIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED, ALL OF THEM PRESENT, INCLUDING MORE ABOUT HOW CAN WE WORK IN COLLABORATION? HOW CAN WE BE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT DRIVING OPPORTUNITIES AS AS WE MOVE FORWARD FOR OUR OUR CONSTITUENCIES? DID ANY POLICY INITIATIVES COME OUT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS? WE REMAIN FOCUSED ON OURS, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CITY MANAGER, WHO HAS ADDITIONAL INSIGHTS.

I THINK THE BEAUTY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WAS REALLY US SAYING THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO LEAD AND DO, AND RECEIVING THE THE POSITIVE RESPONSES THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR ROLE IS.

THEY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO STILL BE ENGAGED TO WHERE THERE'S NO DUPLICATION THAT'S HAPPENING ACROSS ANY OF THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, BUT MANY OF THEM ARE ALREADY WORKING ON WAYS THAT THEY SHOW THEIR SUPPORT AND HOW THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING CLEARLY WRAPS INTO THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY.

AND SO IT'S REALLY BACK TO LIZ MENTIONED EVERYBODY DRIVING IN THEIR OWN LANE.

BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS PRODUCTIVE AND WE'RE NOT TALKING PAST EACH OTHER.

SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT A LOT OF THE LOT OF THE COLLABORATION AROUND SOME OF THE SUPPORT ROLES WILL REALLY BE AT MY LEVEL, NOT NECESSARILY HAVING STAFF ASSIGNED TO ANY PARTICULAR COMPONENT, BUT IT'S HOW I'M IN THE ROOM MAKING SURE THAT AS I WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, I'M WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT OUR DIFFERENT WHETHER IT'S PAUL QUINN AND IT'S UT UNT DALLAS THAT I'M AT THE TABLE MAKING SURE THAT THEY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO WHEN WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND I'LL JUST USE THIS EXAMPLE WHEN WE'RE WORKING ON AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROSPECT, WHEN THEY COME TO THE TABLE, THEY COME TO SEE THE CITY, AND THEY WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THE EDUCATION SYSTEM LOOK LIKE, THEN IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONNECTING THEM WITH THE PEOPLE THAT CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S REALLY THE ECOSYSTEM AND THE STRENGTH OF THAT SYSTEM.

SO WHAT WE SEE AS THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITIES, HOW WE ENSURE THAT DALLAS IS A CITY WHERE THERE IS ECONOMIC MOBILITY, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER, AND WE'RE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS, ALL OF THOSE, I WOULD SAY, UNDERLYING THINGS THAT SOMETIMES KEEP PEOPLE FROM BEING ELEVATED AND LIFTED UP.

SO THIS IS REALLY ABOUT HOW WE CONTINUE THE COLLABORATION, NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A POSITION ASSIGNED TO ANY OF THEM, BUT IT'S THE ONGOING CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE GOING FORWARD. AND SO THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF HOW WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR OTHER EXTERNAL PARTNERS AT THIS TIME IS REALLY AT MY LEVEL. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN. CHAIRMAN. GRACEY, WE'RE GOING TO YOU FOR THREE MINUTES.

IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO JUMP IN FIRST.

OKAY. THREE MINUTES. AND TO THAT POINT, ALONG THOSE SAME LINES ONE, I WAS KIND OF TO THAT POINT LOOKING AT SLIDE EIGHT, WHERE IT LISTS ALL OF THOSE PARTNERS UP THERE.

AND I GUESS THE QUESTION OR STATEMENT EITHER WAY, IS UNDERSTANDING THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION'S HABITS OF PULLING FUNDS BACK FOR WHATEVER REASON, AS WE'RE CONTINUING TO MEET AND WORK WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE ALSO ANTICIPATING ANY OTHER REDUCTIONS OF FUNDS AND ARE WE PLANNING? AND IF NOT, I WANT US TO BE ANTICIPATING WHERE WE'RE VULNERABLE FOR ANY OTHER FUNDS TO BE PULLED BACK, AND ALSO WHAT THE PLANS COLLECTIVELY COULD BE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SO APPRECIATIVE OF THIS ECOSYSTEM, AND I'M HOPING THAT THEY'RE CONTINUING THAT YOU ALL ARE CONTINUING TO MEET IS MY UNDERSTANDING, SO THAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE WHERE WE'RE VULNERABLE AND WHERE IN ANY ONE OF THESE DRIVERS OF POLICY, OF POVERTY, OF OPPORTUNITY, EXCUSE ME, DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY, IF ANY ONE OF THEM ARE VULNERABLE, COLLECTIVELY, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN RESPOND AS AN ORGANIZATION, NOT NECESSARILY FROM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF DALLAS BUDGET, BUT COLLECTIVELY GOING AFTER SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS SOMEWHERE OR ADDITIONAL PARTNERS.

I THINK THAT'S THE POWER OF THE COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF.

IS THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DON'T KNOW FROM DAY TO DAY WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE, BUT STRENGTHENING THE ECOSYSTEM WHERE THE CITY CLEARLY HAS A LEAD ROLE IN THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE IMPACT. AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH WHETHER IT'S OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS, OUR PHILANTHROPIC PARTNERS, OUR EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS, THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER.

AND ANY TIME THAT THERE ARE CHANGES THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE MADE, SOMETIMES THERE IS A RIPPLE EFFECT THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT US ALL.

I THINK BECAUSE OF THE COLLABORATION THAT WE HAVE STARTED AND THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE WAY WE'VE PRESENTED THIS TO YOU TODAY, THAT THE BUY IN FOR HOW WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL AND BE INNOVATIVE ON HOW WE LOOK AT WAYS TO CONTINUE TO RESOLVE, WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES, SOLVE PROBLEMS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT IT'S REALLY GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US DOING IT TOGETHER, AND NOBODY HAS ONE POT THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE USED BY EVERYONE.

SO I THINK THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS FRAMEWORK ALLOWS FOR US TO DO WHAT WE DO WELL,

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AND TO ALSO BE THE CHAMPIONS FOR THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN.

DOING THAT IN COLLABORATION AND FINDING THOSE OTHER STREAMS OF RESOURCES THAT WE CAN USE TO DO THAT.

SO THE SPIRIT OF WHAT I KNOW COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO DO, I THINK THIS FRAMEWORK ALLOWS FOR YOU TO DO IT.

THIS POLICY ALLOWS FOR US TO START. WE WILL UPDATE, TWEAK AS NEEDED, BUT IT GIVES US THE ROADMAP THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD IN THESE CURRENT TIMES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN JOHNSON RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUE.

AND I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION. I'M LOOKING AT ACCESS TO PRESCHOOL, EFFECTIVE PUBLIC EDUCATION, SCHOOL, SOCIAL ECONOMIC REPRESENTATION, COLLEGE READINESS.

WHAT DOES SUPPORT? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE SUPPORT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THAT THAT DON'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S IN OUR WHEELHOUSE.

SO I WOULD LIKE THAT. LIKE, THAT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

AND I APPRECIATE THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY, BUT WHAT DOES SUPPORT LOOK LIKE? THAT'S MORE OF A SCHOOL BOARD INITIATIVE. SO WHAT WHAT WHAT IS HOW ARE WE SUPPORTING THAT? IS IT FUN? WHERE ARE WE PUTTING FUNDING TOWARD IT? BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING IS THEIR JOB.

SO THANK YOU, CHAIR JOHNSON. AND AS THE CITY MANAGER HAS NOTED, THE ECOSYSTEM OF SHARED RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND DRIVING IN OUR OWN LANES.

OF COURSE, WE WANT TO SUPPORT AND WE'VE ACTUALLY DEFINED SUPPORT AS AMPLIFYING BEING A BEING A SUPPORTER AND LEVERAGING EXTERNAL EFFORTS LED BY OTHER INSTITUTIONS. SO WHEN THE CITY MANAGER CONVENED WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT OF OF TWO SCHOOL DISTRICTS AT THESE MEETINGS, THAT WAS THEIR LEVEL OF CONVERSATION OF, OF HOW DO WE CONNECT AND COLLABORATE AND, AND, AND MAINTAIN AN OPEN DIALOG OF COMMUNICATION.

SO, AS CHAIR GRACEY POINTED OUT, IN THESE TIMES WHERE WHERE THERE'S ISSUES RELATED TO FUNDING AND CONTINUED FUNDING AND GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, THAT WE CAN BE ALIGNED AND AND SO, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU'LL SEE THE MEGAPHONES DIGITAL ACCESS.

WE HAD A OVER $10 MILLION GRANT COMING INTO THE CITY THAT WAS CLAWED BACK AND, AND AND SO THIS, THIS BODY OF WORK IS IN THIS MOMENT BEING LED BY SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

SO HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO JUST AMPLIFY IT IF NEED BE.

AND THAT COULD BE THAT COULD LOOK LIKE A NUMBER OF THINGS. MAYBE IT'S A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM FROM OUR MAYOR POTENTIALLY, OR OUR CITY MANAGER, ETC., BUT NOT OWNING THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE THE MEGAPHONE, BUT FOCUSING ON THE PILLARS, THE GREEN ICONS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IS PRIMARILY THE WORK OF THE CITY.

AND IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THAT, IS THAT OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON? AND SO I THINK WHEN, WHEN I THINK ABOUT SUPPORT, IT'S ALSO WE OFTEN GET DIRECT FEEDBACK ON WHETHER WE'RE TALKING TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY LEADERS AROUND THE WORKFORCE READINESS. AND OFTENTIMES WHAT WE'RE TYPICALLY ASKING IS, WHAT ARE THE SKILL SETS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT YOU'RE FUTURE PROOFING YOUR WORKFORCE? SO AS THEY'RE SHARING THAT INFORMATION WITH THE CITY, WE HAVE A, IN MY OPINION, A DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SHARING THAT WITH OUR PARTNERS AND BEING ABLE TO SAY, LIKE FOR THE DALLAS ISD CAREER INSTITUTES, WE SEE THAT AS A DIRECT LINK WITH THE TYPES OF JOBS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ONLY SECURING IN OUR CITY, BUT THAT WERE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ELEVATING BASED ON THE TYPES OF COMPANIES AND THE RETENTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ACROSS ACROSS THE CITY.

SO WORKFORCE READINESS IS ONE OF JUST ONE OF THE KEY EXAMPLES ON WAYS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING FORWARD.

WE'RE SHARING INFORMATION, WE'RE GIVING FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY THE ONES DOING THE WORK.

SO IT'S THE IT'S BACK TO THE COLLABORATION AGAIN, I THINK IN A SUPPORTING ROLE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT SILENT WHEN WE KNOW THAT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE IMPACTING SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES.

HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THEY'RE AT THE TABLE AND THEY'RE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE TELLING US WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE NEEDS ARE BEING ADDRESSED AND HOW THEY FUTURE PROOF THEIR WORKFORCE.

THAT KEEPS OUR BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY. AND IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR US TO ATTRACT OTHERS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD A COMMENT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE QUESTION THAT YOU'VE ASKED.

I THINK THAT WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC ROLE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SITTING HERE AS A HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT DEPARTMENT, AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW AND UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT HOUSING IS. FOR EXAMPLE BUT WHEN THINKING ABOUT CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS PEOPLE, CHILDREN WHO HAVE TO CONTINUALLY RELOCATE OR WHO ARE UNSTABLY HOUSED HAVE EVIDENCE BASED, IT SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE WORSE ACADEMIC OUTCOMES.

AND SO WHILE WE MIGHT NOT BE SETTING POLICIES IN SCHOOLS, WE COULD BE SETTING POLICIES THAT ADVANCE STABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES,

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WHICH CAN STABILIZE THOSE FAMILIES AND THUS CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE HAVING BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR ACADEMIC OUTCOMES.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE I WOULD CITE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ARE THIS BODY APPROVED SOME LAND USE POLICY ADJUSTMENTS THAT ENABLED CHILD CARE CENTERS TO OPERATE IN DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES IN NEW WAYS, SO THAT NEW CHILD CARE CENTERS COULD OPEN UP.

AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW WE HAVE A DEARTH OF AFFORDABLE, ACCESSIBLE CHILD CARE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO, OF COURSE, CHILD CARE IS VERY, VERY DIRECTLY TIED TO LONG TERM ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT.

AND SO BY DOING THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT AN EDUCATIONAL POLICY, IT'S VERY MUCH A CITY POLICY.

BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE AS A CITY CAN DO, AND WE SHOULD BE LOOKING ACROSS ALL OF OUR POLICIES, ALL OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE LIFE FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, FOR OUR FAMILIES, FOR OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT PARTNERS, FOR OUR CHILDCARE PARTNERS EASIER SO THAT THEY CAN DO THE GOOD WORK.

THAT IS VERY MUCH THEIR ROLE. THANK YOU. AND I HEAR YOU.

I GUESS I'M JUST I WANT TO KIND OF GO DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT IF YOU CAN, LIKE ACCESS TO PRESCHOOL.

HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THAT? EFFECTIVE PUBLIC EDUCATION.

HOW CAN WE HOW HOW IS HOW CAN WE SUPPORT THAT? WHAT WHAT DOES SUPPORT SPECIFICALLY LOOK LIKE FOR THAT? BECAUSE THOSE THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S OUR PURVIEW.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT SPECIFICALLY WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT EFFECTIVE PUBLIC EDUCATION, ACCESS TO PRESCHOOL, THAT THAT IS A A ADMINISTRATION IN DALLAS ISD, GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNITIES TO HAVE ACCESS TO PRESCHOOL. SO HOW HOW CAN THE CITY SITTING SUPPORT THAT.

WHAT DOES THAT REALLY LOOK LIKE BESIDES MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S THERE'S HOMES AND STABLE HOMES, WHAT REALLY DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND SO WHAT I CAN SAY IT'S JUST A REMINDER, ONE THING THAT THE CITY DOES DO WITH OUR PUBLIC SERVICE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT DOLLARS, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THAT WE INVEST IN A CHILD CARE AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM THAT HELPS TO SUPPORT FAMILIES.

IT'S VERY MUCH ORIENTED TOWARDS A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FOR THE PARENTS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, BUT IT'S ALSO CREATING OPPORTUNITY AND AVENUES FOR YOUNG CHILDREN TO GET INTO SAFE AND EFFECTIVE PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS EARLY ON.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, I THINK THAT THE IMAGERY THAT WE CHOSE AROUND THE MEGAPHONE IS REALLY INTENTIONAL BECAUSE WE CAN ALSO JUST AMPLIFY THE MESSAGE.

YOU KNOW, DALLAS ISD HAS DONE SOME INCREDIBLE WORK WHEN IT COMES TO ENROLLING YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR CHILD IN THEIR PRE-K, THREE YEAR OLDS, FOUR YEAR OLDS, AND JUST GETTING THAT MASSIVE KIND OF UNIVERSAL TYPE OUTREACH.

IT'S REALLY, REALLY AMAZING AND IMPRESSIVE WHAT THEY'VE DONE. AND WE DON'T WANT TO.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO COMPETE WITH THAT IN ANY WAY. WE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.

WE CAN MESSAGE THE SAME THING. WE CAN STAY BACK AND AMPLIFY.

WE CAN BE THE CHEERLEADERS BEHIND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ADVANCE AS WELL.

AND EVEN THINKING ABOUT OUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AND THE TEEN PROGRAMS. SO WE HAVE THE TEEN PASS PROGRAMS, OF COURSE.

PARKS AND REC ALSO ADMINISTERS OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMS, AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS PROGRAMING DURING THE SUMMERTIME FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, FOR YOUTH, FOR CHILDREN. AND THEY ALSO REPRESENT SPACE, PHYSICAL SPACE IN THE COMMUNITIES, AS DO OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS, WHERE NONPROFIT PARTNERS AND PROVIDERS CAN COME TO REACH FAMILIES, TO REACH CHILDREN AND ENGAGE IN REALLY CRITICAL OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP SUPPORT EDUCATION, MAYBE WHEN CHILDREN ARE NOT NECESSARILY IN SCHOOL AND JUST CONTINUE TO REINFORCE THAT SUPPORT AND EFFORT. OKAY. WE'LL TALK OFFLINE.

IT'S JUST I'M NOT IT'S NOT CONNECTING WITH ME.

SO WE'LL TALK OFFLINE. CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR. FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I THINK THIS IS A VERY THOUGHTFUL MODEL. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE PUT INTO THIS.

AND I THINK IT REFLECTS REALITY. I THINK IT REFLECTS WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING OUT THERE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE LOOK AT OUR REC CENTERS AND OUR LIBRARIES.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRESCHOOL, WE HAVE STORY TIME IN THE LIBRARIES.

WE HAVE A LITTLE PLAY AREA FOR PRESCHOOLERS AT THE LAKE HIGHLANDS REC CENTER.

SO WE'RE ALREADY WE'RE HOSTING THAT AGE, AND WE CAN BE A COMMUNICATOR THAT HERE ARE THE PRESCHOOL OPPORTUNITIES AT AT RISD OR DISD.

AND SO I THINK ALL OF THAT FLOWS WELL. IT IT REALLY IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE'RE NOT SILOS, THAT WE ARE CONNECTED, THAT OUR PEOPLE ARE IN OUR FACILITIES.

AND THEY'RE MAKING USE OF WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING AS A CITY, BUT THEY'RE ALSO CAN BE MADE AWARE OF WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS OR THE COUNTY ARE OR WHAT OTHER INSTITUTIONS ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES.

AND THAT BRINGS ME TO THE THE FEEDBACK YOU RECEIVED AND THE STATEMENT PLACE MATTERS.

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THE RESPONDENTS FEEDBACK POINTS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD CONDITION TO NEIGHBORHOOD CONDITIONS.

SO THE CITY WILL AIM TO TRACK AND REPORT RESULTS AT THE LOWEST LEVEL POSSIBLE.

BUT WHAT'S YOUR WHAT YOUR SURVEY TAKERS WERE SAYING IS THAT IT MATTERS WHERE THESE RESOURCES ARE, AND THEY WANT THEM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO AGAIN, IF WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME OF THESE THINGS, UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR REC CENTERS AND OUR LIBRARIES ARE THAT'S IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S WHERE THEY GO TO GET THOSE, THOSE RESOURCES FOR DISTRICT TEN, THAT IS FORCING AUDELIA.

AND WE HAVE, AS A CITY FINALLY EMBRACED THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT FORREST AND IDALIA NEEDED SOME CITY RESOURCES.

AND THEY WILL HAVE A ONE ACRE PARK IN A COMMUNITY CENTER HERE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, AND THAT WILL BE A GREAT PLACE FOR US TO POTENTIALLY DO GED CLASSES AGAIN, ANOTHER WAY WE CAN BRING IN EDUCATION TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN A HIGH POVERTY AREA AND NEED THAT RESOURCE. SO I SEE WHEN WE WHEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THE WHERE THE RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE NEEDS TO BE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN IT HAS TO BE THE CITY HAS A ROLE IN ALL OF THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE FACILITIES.

WE HAVE THOSE THOSE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

AND TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY NEED ABOUT A FLU SHOT OR ANOTHER VACCINE.

IT'S WE'RE JUST WE'RE INTERCONNECTED. AND I THINK THIS RECOGNIZES THAT.

AND IT LIFTS IT UP AND IT GIVES US A WAY OF LOOKING AT IT AND UNDERSTANDING IT.

AND YES, WE HAVE TO GUARD AGAINST PUTTING RESOURCES IN, IN THE LANES THAT ARE NOT OURS.

AND WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. BUT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME HIGHWAY.

SO SO LET'S LOOK ACROSS AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, I CAN I CAN GIVE YOU A ROOM AT MY LIBRARY FOR YOUR GED CLASSES OR YOUR EARLY CHILDHOOD NUTRITION CLASSES. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN EMPTY ROOM THAT WOULD SIT THERE EMPTY UNLESS THE COUNTY OR A SCHOOL DISTRICT CAME IN AND USED THAT SPOT.

SO I THINK THIS IS GREAT. I APPRECIATE THE WORK ON IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M REALLY TALKING INTO MY MICROPHONE. SORRY. I STARTED PREACHING A SERMON THERE ON THE SIDE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, CHAIR STEWART. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY OPPORTUNITY RICH NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S WHERE OUR LIBRARIES SHOW UP. IT'S WHERE OUR ARTS AND CULTURES, WHERE OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS PLAY, OUR PARKS AND RECS, ETC., SO THAT THE INTENTIONALITY THERE IS THERE IN UNDER THAT DOMAIN OF OPPORTUNITY.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY? RICH? EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAPTURED SO WELL IS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP WHILE STAYING FOCUSED, RIGHT? WE KNOW THAT WE CAN BE HOLISTIC AND FOCUSED AT THE SAME TIME.

THANK YOU. MR. RESENDEZ. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

GOT ME IN THE MIDDLE OF MY CHAPSTICK. I WANT TO START BY THANKING STAFF FOR THEIR DILIGENT WORK IN NAVIGATING THESE NEW FEDERAL DIRECTIVES, WHICH HAVE INCREASINGLY MADE IT CHALLENGING FOR CITIES LIKE OURS TO ADVANCE MEANINGFUL EFFORTS DESPITE THESE CONSTRAINTS.

STAFF HAS CONTINUED TO FOCUS ON CORE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT OUR WORK REMAINS GROUNDED IN IMPROVING OUTCOMES FOR ALL RESIDENTS.

I ALSO APPRECIATE THE OUTREACH STAFF UNDERTOOK TO LISTEN TO RESIDENTS CONCERNS AND ENSURE THAT THEIR VOICES SHAPE OUR APPROACH WITH REGARD TO PAGE FIVE, WHICH WAS HIGHLIGHTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY FOR CLARIFICATION.

THE INFORMATION ON PAGE FIVE REFLECTS FEDERAL DIRECTIVES AND GRANT COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS.

RIGHT. THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. AND IT'S PROVIDED SOLELY TO INFORM THE COUNCIL OF THE FEDERAL FRAMEWORK WITHIN WHICH STAFF MUST OPERATE.

CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT SIR. THANK YOU. THESE ARE NOT CITY OF DALLAS POLICY POSITIONS.

WHILE FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES THE CITY OF DALLAS TO COMPLY WITH CERTAIN DHS REQUESTS, OUR COOPERATION MUST REMAIN STRICTLY WITHIN CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITS AND MUST NOT RESEMBLE OR EVOLVE INTO VOLUNTARY IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS LIKE 287, WHICH THIS COUNCIL REJECTED BECAUSE OF THE RISKS OF RACIAL PROFILING, CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS, AND THE EROSION OF COMMUNITY TRUST.

OUR RESIDENTS EXPECT AND DESERVE POLICING THAT RESPECTS DUE PROCESS, PROTECTS CIVIL LIBERTIES.

AND KEEPS LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY FUNCTIONS SEPARATE FROM FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, UNLESS THERE'S A CLEAR DANGER OR PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT.

I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SINCE THE COUNCIL DECLINED THE 287 G AGREEMENT, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY IN SOUTHEAST DALLAS SPECIFICALLY, WHICH HAS ONLY HEIGHTENED FEAR AMONG FAMILIES AND UNDERSCORES WHY MAINTAINING CLEAR BOUNDARIES AND CONSTITUTIONAL SAFEGUARDS IS SO CRITICAL.

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FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE VOICED REAL CONCERNS ABOUT ANY PERCEIVED COLLABORATION WITH AN AGENCY THAT HAS REPEATEDLY SHOWN A LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ENSURE THAT ANY REQUIRED INTERACTION WITH DHS IS NARROW, LAWFUL, TRANSPARENT, AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION THAT IS CARRIED OUT IN A MANNER THAT SAFEGUARDS EVERY RESIDENT'S RIGHTS AND UPHOLDS THE TRUST THAT MAKES OUR CITY SAFER. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR PANEL BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CHAIRMAN? REALLY RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IN AN EXERCISE OF THIS BODY'S RESPONSIBILITIES FOR BUDGET OVERSIGHT.

MADAM CITY MANAGER, I REQUEST THAT BEFORE THE CITY UNDERTAKES ANY NEW OBLIGATIONS FOR PROGRAMS IN THE EDUCATIONAL SPHERE OR HEALTH CARE, THAT YOU ADVISE THE COUNCIL AND SEEK OUR CONSENT.

SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE IF WE BELIEVE THAT THAT BUDGET IMPACT IS WITHIN OUR LANE AND OUR JURISDICTION.

AS A MATTER OF BUDGET OVERSIGHT. YES, SIR. MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO SO, AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THROUGHOUT THIS IMPLEMENTATION OF THE POLICY IF APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK.

AS TO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN OUR IMPLEMENTATION PHASE, AND KEEP YOU ABREAST THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. MADAM CITY MANAGER, READY FOR YOUR NEXT PANEL? YES. I THINK, BY THE WAY, BEFORE YOU GO ON.

YES, SIR. I THINK TIMING WISE, IF THIS MIGHT BE THE LAST ONE BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH AND WE'LL COME BACK AND TAKE UP B AFTER LUNCH. AND WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY.

YES, THAT IS PERFECT. SO THE SECOND PART OF THIS WORK THAT WE BEGAN EARLIER IN THE YEAR WAS TO ALSO BEGIN TO LOOK AT OUR PRACTICES AND HOW WE HAVE TREATED THE INCLUSION OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, AS WELL AS OUR MINORITY OWNED AND WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES.

AND SO WE STARTED THIS WORK WORKS SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THE WHOLE NEW DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY.

AND TODAY WE DO HAVE OUR TEAM WHO IS HERE TO PRESENT THIS SECOND COMPONENT.

THIS WILL ALSO BE A PART OF YOUR AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 10TH FOR APPROVAL OF THE NEW DRIVE POLICY.

SO WE GOT DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY, WHICH YOU'VE JUST HEARD.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE DRIVER THE DRIVE POLICY.

AND THEY'LL EXPLAIN TO YOU THE COMPONENTS, THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THESE LAST FEW MONTHS AS WELL AS THE NEXT STEPS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. GIBSON, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU, MADAM MANAGER. DONZELL GIBSON, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

MR. ORTIZ AND TEAM. I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR ALL THE TIME AND ENERGY THAT THEY PUT INTO IT, ALL OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HOURS, ALL THE LATE NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS AND PHONE CALLS THAT WE'VE HAD ENGAGING WITH THIS.

AND SO, MISS JUANITA, TAKE US HOME. ALRIGHTY.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY THE DRIVE POLICY FRAMEWORK.

I'M JOINED TODAY BY OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTORS, KIM FRANKLIN, OVER PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACT MANAGEMENT, AND MARISSA SANCHEZ ADA OVER THE BUSINESS ENTERPRISE HUB.

OUR INITIATIVE REFLECTS THE COMMITMENT OF THE CITY TO STRENGTHEN OUR LOCAL BUSINESS ECOSYSTEM, INCREASE ACCESS TO CITY PROCUREMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AND ALIGN OUR PRACTICES WITH FEDERAL AND STATE DIRECTIVES.

NEXT SLIDE. THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S BRIEFING IS TO PROVIDE A BACKGROUND ON THE BID POLICY AND THE CURRENT SB LANDSCAPE. HIGHLIGHT KEY FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM OUR STAKEHOLDERS ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS, AND PREVIEW THE DRIVE FRAMEWORK AND OUTLINE OUR NEXT STEPS.

NEXT SLIDE. BEFORE WE INTRODUCE THE DRIVE POLICY, I WANT TO BRIEFLY PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME CONTEXT.

NEXT SLIDE. THE CITY'S BUSINESS INCLUSION AND DEVELOPMENT POLICY BEGAN AS A GOOD FAITH EFFORT PLANNED IN 1984, AND HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME. IT WAS AMENDED AND RENAMED THE BUSINESS INCLUSION AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN 2008, AND MOST RECENTLY WAS UPDATED IN 2020 FOLLOWING AN AVAILABILITY AND DISPARITY STUDY.

THE POLICY REQUIRES THAT CONTRACTORS DEMONSTRATE OUTREACH AND MEET PARTICIPATION GOALS FOR MINORITY WOMEN AND BUSINESS ENTERPRISES.

IN 2000 AND JUNE 2025, THE PROGRAM WAS TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED TO COMPLY WITH THE NEW FEDERAL DIRECTIVES.

NEXT SLIDE. SINCE THE THE TEMPORARY SUSPENSION, WE'VE COMPLETED SOME FOUNDATIONAL TRANSITIONAL WORK.

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WE REMOVED THE BID CRITERIA FROM EXISTING SOLICITATIONS AND DOCUMENTS.

WE AMENDED CONTRACTS AND SOLICITATIONS, AND WE NOTIFIED VENDORS AND ENGAGED OUR STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY TO START SHAPING A NEW PROGRAM.

WE'RE NOW MOVING INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE, WHERE WE'RE FINALIZING A MARKET UTILIZATION STUDY AND DEVELOPING THE POLICIES AND TOOLS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR US TO PREPARE TRAINING OUR CONTRACTORS AND OUR STAFF.

COUNCIL ADOPTION IS THE NEXT MAJOR STEP TO ENSURE THAT THIS NEW PROGRAM IS EFFECTIVE AND READY FOR IT TO BE ROLLED OUT.

NEXT SLIDE. DALLAS SMALL BUSINESS ECOSYSTEM IS OVERWHELMINGLY A MICRO MICROBUSINESS ECONOMY. ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF OUR BUSINESSES HAVE FEWER THAN FIVE EMPLOYEES, WHICH MIRRORS NATIONAL PATTERNS.

YET VERY FEW OF THESE FIRMS ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED.

ONLY 1 IN 12 ARE REGISTERED IN B2B. NOW THE CITY'S COMPLIANCE SYSTEM.

AND BECAUSE 92% OF OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE FEWER THAN 50 EMPLOYEES, OUR PROGRAM MUST MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE.

BE SIMPLE, ACCESSIBLE AND SCALED TO MEET REAL SMALL BUSINESS CAPACITY.

NEXT SLIDE. OUR CERTIFIED DIRECTORY IS ALREADY ALIGNED WITH THE SBE PROGRAM.

OVER 2200 FIRMS ARE SBE CERTIFIED, AND MOST ARE CROSS CERTIFIED WITH OTHER CERTIFICATIONS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF MBAS AND NEARLY HALF OF WBS ARE ALREADY CERTIFIED AS SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISES, SHOWING THAT THERE IS AN OVERLAP ACROSS THE PROGRAMS. OUR CERTIFICATION PARTNERS ESTIMATE THAT 92% OF OUR CURRENT SUBCONTRACTORS WILL MEET THE SBE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SET FORTH IN THE DRIVE POLICY.

NEXT SLIDE. ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SBE PROGRAMS VARY, BUT MOST RELY ON SBA SIZE STANDARDS OR REVENUE CAPS AND INCLUDE SOME FORM OF CONTRACT SPECIFIC PARTICIPATION GOALS.

SEVERAL PEER JURISDICTIONS, INCLUDING DALLAS COUNTY, FORT WORTH, SAN ANTONIO AND AUSTIN ALREADY AWARD EVALUATION POINTS FOR SB PARTICIPATION.

OUR PROPOSED FRAMEWORK ALIGNS WELL WITH REGIONAL AND NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES WHILE PRESERVING OUR FLEXIBILITY IN THE MARKET AND POLICY GOALS.

NEXT SLIDE. TO ENSURE THAT THE DRIVE FRAMEWORK REFLECTED REAL BUSINESS NEEDS, WE ENGAGE STAKEHOLDERS ACROSS OUR CONTRACTING COMMUNITY AND THEIR FEEDBACK GUIDED THE DIRECTION AND DESIGN OF THIS PROGRAM.

NEXT SLIDE. WE HELD FOUR STAKEHOLDER SESSIONS WITH MORE THAN 200 PARTICIPANTS, INCLUDING REPRESENTATIVES FROM PRIME AND SUBCONTRACTOR BUSINESSES, THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION, OUR CERTIFICATION AGENCIES, AND OTHER OUTREACH AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS. 60% OF THE ATTENDEES BELIEVE THAT THE EXISTING BID POLICY WAS VARIED TO SOMEWHAT EFFECTIVE IN PROMOTING MS EASE IN A MAJORITY OF THEM EXPRESSED THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE SOME CHANGE AND SOME POSITIVE MOVEMENT IN OUR ENGAGEMENT AND OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS WITH SMALL BUSINESSES. NEXT SLIDE. STAKEHOLDERS ASKED FOR CLEAR, SIMPLE ELIGIBILITY RULES WITH REALISTIC AND ENFORCEABLE PARTICIPATION GOALS TIED TO THE CONTRACT SIZE AND THE MARKET DATA.

THEY EMPHASIZED STRONGER LOCAL IMPACT, IMPROVING CERTIFICATION, RECIPROCITY, AND MORE MEANINGFUL ACCOUNTABILITY BOTH THROUGH MONITORING AND THE EVALUATION CRITERIA. CAPACITY BUILDING WAS A MAJOR THEME.

VENDORS WANT MENTORSHIP. THEY WANT TRAINING AND STREAMLINED CITY PROCESSES THAT MAKE IT EASIER FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE AND SUCCEED.

NEXT SLIDE. OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES CENTER ON BUILDING LONG TERM CAPACITY FOR SMALL AND LOCAL VENDORS AND EXPAND ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES. WE'RE ALSO COMMITTED COMMITTED TO BEING A REGIONAL PARTNER THROUGH COLLABORATION SO THAT VENDORS CAN NAVIGATE MULTIPLE PUBLIC AGENCIES MORE EASILY.

TRANSPARENCY AND STRONG OVERSIGHT UNDERPIN THE ENTIRE FRAMEWORK AND ENSURING ACCOUNTABILITY FOR BOTH THE CITY AND ITS CONTRACTORS.

NEXT SLIDE. AS WE MOVE INTO THE COMPONENTS OF THE POLICY, WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL SEE HOW EACH ELEMENT TIES DIRECTLY BACK TO MARKET DATA, OUR LEGAL FRAMEWORK AND STAKEHOLDER PRIORITIES.

NEXT SLIDE. DRIVE REPRESENTS A SHIFT TOWARDS CAPACITY BUILDING, REGIONAL COLLABORATION AND EQUITABLE ACCESS,

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NOT JUST COMPLIANCE. IT'S ABOUT BUILDING THE BENCH, STRENGTHENING THE PIPELINE, AND ENSURING THAT ALL VENDORS HAVE A FAIR SHOT AT THE GAME.

NEXT SLIDE. DRIVE POLICY APPLIES TO GOODS, SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, A AND E, AND CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS, ENSURING A CONSISTENT AND EQUITABLE APPROACH TO SUPPLIER INCLUSION FOR PURCHASES UNDER 100,000.

WE'RE INTRODUCING A FIRST LOOK PROGRAM, ENCOURAGING DEPARTMENTS TO FIRST SEEK QUOTES FROM CERTIFIED SMALL BUSINESSES, INCLUDING VENDOR OWNED BUSINESSES. EXPANDING ACCESS TO CITY OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENTS OVER 100,000.

WE WILL CONTINUE THE STANDARD PROCUREMENT PROCESS WHILE EMBEDDING PARTICIPATION GOALS AND EVALUATION CRITERIA TO SUPPORT BUSINESS GROWTH.

EMERGENCY COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS AND FEDERALLY FUNDED PROCUREMENTS WILL REMAIN EXCLUDED.

NEXT SLIDE. THE BID POLICY RELIED ON OWNERSHIP BASED ELIGIBILITY.

WHILE THE DRIVE UPDATES THAT CRITERIA TO SBA SIZE STANDARDS AND REQUIRES THAT BUSINESSES BE LOCATED IN THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH-ARLINGTON MSA.

PARTICIPATION GOALS. SHIFT FROM FIXED CATEGORY BASED GOALS UNDER THE MW PROGRAM TO ANNUAL SB UTILIZATION BENCHMARKS, SUPPORTED BY CONTRACT SPECIFIC GOALS TIED TO AVAILABILITY AND SCOPE.

DRIVE PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY BY ALLOWING FIRMS TO MEET GOALS THROUGH SELF PERFORMANCE, SUBCONTRACTING, OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH. NEXT SLIDE. EXPANDED ELIGIBILITY INCREASES THE POOL OF POTENTIAL SBS, BUT TRUE CAPACITY WILL GROW MORE GRADUALLY AS NEWLY ELIGIBLE FIRMS COMPLETE CERTIFICATION.

THE BENCHMARKS BALANCE DOCUMENTED AVAILABILITY WITH REAL WORLD MARKET CAPACITY AND GOALS REMAIN ACHIEVABLE, ACHIEVABLE AND MEANINGFUL. A PHASED, PROGRESSIVE APPROACH ALLOWS FOR BENCHMARKS TO SCALE OVER TIME AS THE VENDOR BASE MATURES AND PARTICIPATION STRENGTHENS.

NEXT SLIDE CONTRACT SPECIFIC GOALS WILL BE CALCULATED USING THE B2 NOW SYSTEM THAT WE USE FOR COMPLIANCE.

IT CONSISTS OF A FORMULA THAT EVALUATES THE SUBCONTRACTING SCOPES, SB AVAILABILITY WITHIN EACH OF THOSE SCOPES, AND THE DOLLAR WEIGHT OF EACH SCOPE IN CONTRACTS.

THE DATA DRIVEN METHOD ENSURES THAT EVERY GOAL REFLECTS REAL MARKET CAPACITY ANCHORED IN ACTUAL AVAILABILITY, RATHER THAN A PRE-SET PERCENTAGE. BY TYING THE GOALS TO THE B2 NOW DATA, WE PROMOTE MEANINGFUL SB ENGAGEMENT AND REDUCE RELIANCE ON SIMPLE OUTREACH.

NEXT SLIDE. THIS EXAMPLE SHOWS YOU HOW CONTRACT SPECIFIC GOALS CAN DIFFER FROM THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION BENCHMARK. ONCE WE ACCOUNT FOR ACTUAL SCOPES AND AVAILABILITY, EACH PROJECT TYPE, ROADWAY, VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, AND PIPELINE HAS DIFFERENT SUBCONTRACTING OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH TRANSLATES INTO DIFFERENT SB AVAILABILITY AND GOALS.

THIS ENSURES THAT GOALS ARE REALISTIC FOR EACH CONTRACT AND ALIGNED WITH TRUE CAPACITY OF THE AVAILABLE VENDOR POOL.

NEXT SLIDE. UNDER DRIVE, CERTIFICATION EXPANDS TO INCLUDE SB, SB EIGHT A, AND TEXAS HUB, GIVING VENDORS MORE PATHWAYS TO QUALIFY WHILE STILL RECOGNIZING OUR EXISTING PARTNER AGENCIES.

EVALUATION POINTS INCREASE FROM 15 TO 20 POINTS AND SHIFT TOWARDS SB UTILIZATION.

LOCAL ECONOMIC IMPACT AND VENDOR ENGAGEMENT. ALIGNING OUR SCORING WITH OUR PROGRAM GOALS.

THIS STRUCTURE REWARDS MEANINGFUL PARTICIPATION AND SUPPORTS VENDORS THAT INVEST IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND SMALL BUSINESS INCLUSION.

NEXT SLIDE. THE EVALUATION CRITERIA REWARDS PROPOSERS WHO ENGAGE SMALL BUSINESSES AND ARE COMMITTED TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

SB UTILIZATION MEASURES HOW INTENTIONALLY THE PROPOSER PLANS TO INCLUDE CERTIFIED SBS.

POINTS WILL BE AWARDED FOR MEETING OR EXCEEDING THE GOAL AND ENGAGING FIRST TIME CONTRACTORS, HELPING TO EXPAND THE VENDOR POOL AND REDUCE REPEAT VENDOR PATTERNS.

LOCAL ECONOMIC IMPACT EVALUATES HOW MUCH THE PROPOSER CONTRIBUTES TO THE DALLAS ECONOMY THROUGH THEIR WORKFORCE, THEIR HEADQUARTERS, THEIR SUPPLY CHAIN USAGE, AND COMMUNITY INVESTMENT.

AND FINALLY, THE ENGAGEMENT SCORE FOCUSES ON DEMONSTRATED PERFORMANCE AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND REWARDS FIRMS THAT CAN SHOW REAL, DOCUMENTED SUBCONTRACTING ON PREVIOUS PROJECTS, ACTIVE PARTICIPATION AND MENTOR PROTEGE PROGRAMS, OR ENGAGEMENT WITH LOCAL BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS, CHAMBERS, OR CERTIFICATION AGENCIES.

AND IT REINFORCES ACCOUNTABILITY BY AWARDING CREDIT TO FIRMS THAT CONSISTENTLY PAY SUBCONTRACTORS ON TIME.

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NEXT SLIDE. UNDER BID. CAPACITY BUILDING WAS LARGELY LIMITED TO OUTREACH AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WITH THE DRIVE PROGRAM. WE'RE EXPANDING THAT THROUGH THE FIRST LOOK PROGRAM, THE CAPACITY BUILDING COLLABORATIVE AND THE MENTOR PROTEGE PROGRAM, CREATING STRUCTURED, ONGOING PATHWAYS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO GROW.

THE BID POLICY REQUIRED PRIMES TO REPORT UTILIZATION IN B2.

NOW, WITH THE CITY, VERIFYING PAYMENTS DRIVE STRENGTHENS THIS BY CONTINUING THE REAL TIME REPORTING WHILE ADDING MORE ROBUST COMPLIANCE AUDITS AND DOCUMENTING ACTUAL UTILIZATION TO ENSURE COMMITMENTS ARE FULFILLED.

WHILE BID FOCUSED ON DOCUMENTED OUTREACH WHEN GOALS WERE NOT MET.

DRIVE MAINTAINS THAT GFA REQUIREMENT, BUT IT ADDS CLEAR ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES FOR REPEAT NONPERFORMANCE.

SHIFTING FROM DOCUMENTATION TO MEANINGFUL ENFORCEMENT.

NEXT SLIDE. THESE PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS STRENGTHEN THE OVERALL DRIVE FRAMEWORK BY EXPANDING ACCESS, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE FIRST LOOK PROGRAM, WHICH ENSURES THAT SMALL, LOCAL AND VETERAN BUSINESSES ARE CONSIDERED EARLY AND OFTEN IN OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS BY PROMOTING UNBUNDLING AND BEST VALUE PROCUREMENT DRIVE CREATES MORE RIGHT SIZED OPPORTUNITIES AND BALANCES COST, QUALITY AND INCLUSION. THE FRAMEWORK ALSO SUPPORTS CERTIFIED PRIMES THAT SELF-PERFORM WORK AND USES AN ENGAGEMENT SCORE TO HOLD VENDORS ACCOUNTABLE FOR MEANINGFUL PARTICIPATION, NOT JUST OUTREACH, HELPING TO ENSURE THAT THE POLICY DRIVES REAL, MEASURABLE IMPACT.

ALTOGETHER, THESE ELEMENTS WORK IN TANDEM TO DELIVER A MORE ACCESSIBLE, TRANSPARENT, AND PERFORMANCE BASED SYSTEM.

NEXT SLIDE. AS WE MOVE TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION, WE'LL REVIEW THE TIMELINE AND KEY NEXT STEPS.

NEXT SLIDE. WE'VE MOVED THROUGH THE FOUNDATIONAL PHASE, AND WE'RE NOW COMPLETING THE MARKET UTILIZATION ANALYSIS TO FINALLY FINALIZE THE DRIVE BENCHMARKS. THE POLICY IS SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON DECEMBER 10TH, POSITIONING US TO BEGIN WITH AN IMPLEMENTATION AT THE START OF THE NEW YEAR.

IF ADOPTED, WE'LL LAUNCH THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM, ALONG WITH COMMUNICATION AND TRAINING STRATEGIES TO ENSURE THAT DEPARTMENTS AND VENDORS ARE READY FOR ROLLOUT. NEXT SLIDE. IMPLEMENTATION BEGINS WITH FINALIZATION OF THE INTERNAL STRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE PROCEDURES, THE FORMS, TEMPLATES, AND OUTREACH MATERIALS TO ENSURE THAT THE POLICY IS APPLIED CONSISTENTLY ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS. WE'LL THEN CONDUCT COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING FOR CITY STAFF AND PROVIDE JOB AIDS AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, FOLLOWED BY TRAINING SESSIONS FOR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, PRIMES, AND SUBCONTRACTORS SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE NEW REQUIREMENTS AND OPPORTUNITIES, AND WILL ESTABLISH KPIS THAT WILL BE INTEGRATED INTO THE PROCUREMENT ACCOUNTABILITY REPORT, WHICH YOU WILL SEE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND PROVIDE REGULAR PROGRESS UPDATES TO COUNCIL TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.

NEXT SLIDE. THE DRIVE POLICY AGAIN GOES TO COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON DECEMBER 10TH AND IF APPROVED, WILL TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, 2026. ONCE ADOPTED, WILL IMMEDIATELY BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION AND WILL RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST 2026 TO PROVIDE A PROGRESS UPDATE ON IMPLEMENTATION, UTILIZATION AND EARLY PROGRAM OUTCOMES.

NEXT SLIDE. IN CLOSING, DRIVE REPRESENTS A MODERNIZATION OF OUR SUPPLIER INCLUSION STRATEGY, ONE THAT EXPANDS OPPORTUNITY, STRENGTHENS COMPLIANCE, AND POSITIONS THE CITY FOR LONG TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH.

WE WANT TO THANK ALL OUR STAKEHOLDERS WHO CONTRIBUTED THEIR TIME, INSIGHT AND PARTNERSHIP IN SHAPING A PROGRAM THAT WILL CARRY US FORWARD.

THANK YOU AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

OKAY. MEMBERS CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AND WE ARE ON A BRIEFING ITEM A MINUTE. TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE TWO STARS AFTER MY NAME, INDICATING I'VE SPOKEN TWICE ON THE PREVIOUS MATTERS.

THAT BEING, DISREGARD THE STAR SYSTEM AND DON'T DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THAT.

ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE A NUMBER ONE STAR IN OUR BOOK.

PAUL RIDLEY. ENOUGH. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ON SLIDE 15 I'M A LITTLE BIT IN THE DARK AS TO WHAT THE CHECKS VERSUS THE CROSSES MEAN. CAN YOU ENLIGHTEN ME ON THAT? YES. HOW THEY RELATE TO THE DRIVE POINTS VERSUS THE DRIVE GOAL.

SO HERE WE'RE SAYING THAT ANYTHING WITH A CHECK MARK MEANS THAT A GOAL APPLIES TO IT, OR POINTS APPLY TO IT.

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SO INFORMAL BIDS WE ARE REQUIRED TO GET THREE QUOTES.

SO THERE'S NO EVALUATION. AND THERE ALSO ISN'T A GOAL ASSIGNED TO IT.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S TWO X'S WITH AN RFP. WE DO WE DO NOT DO EVALUATIONS WE AWARD TO THE LOWEST BIDDER.

BUT IT DOES HAVE A GOAL COMPONENT OKAY. SO IT'S LIKE WHICH ONE APPLICABILITY OKAY.

AND THEN THE ACTUAL ASSIGNMENT OF POINTS IS LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

YES OKAY. AND THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD ON SLIDE 19 UNDER THE CONSTRUCTION BENCHMARK OF 33%.

IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO ROADWAY VERTICAL AND PIPELINE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THE CALCULATED GOALS? THEY SEEM VERY SPECIFIC. WHAT PRINCIPLE IS DRIVING THAT.

SO THIS IS WHERE WE WILL USE OUR DATA. AND B2 NOW HAS A GOAL SETTING APPLICATION.

AND SO IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SB FIRMS DIVIDED BY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF AVAILABLE FIRMS. IT GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHAT THE AVAILABILITY IS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC COMMODITIES, AND THEN CALCULATES WHAT THE GOAL SHOULD BE.

SO IF THERE'S 8% AVAILABILITY FOR ASPHALT PAVING THEN THAT'S WHAT THAT COMMODITY WOULD BE.

AND THEN WE, WE ADD AND SUBMIT SOME THE TOTAL FOR THE, THE GOAL.

WELL, HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE CALCULATED. JUST AN ILLUSTRATION.

OKAY. BUT HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE CALCULATED? YOU SAID YOU COMPARE THE FIRMS THAT DO THIS KIND OF WORK VERSUS THE OVERALL NUMBER.

HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THE OVERALL NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS DOING THIS KIND OF WORK? SO WE WILL POPULATE BTG NOW WITH OUR AVAILABILITY DATA, AND THAT WILL SHOW US IN THIS REGION HOW MANY VENDORS THERE ARE PER CATEGORY. AND THEN SO DO THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED.

IS THAT HOW YOU IDENTIFY THE. YES. SO TO BE SB THEY HAVE TO BE CERTIFIED.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF OF AVAILABLE VENDORS.

AND HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF AVAILABLE VENDORS? IT WILL UTILIZE DATA FROM? THE US CENSUS HAS DOCUMENTED DOCUMENTED NUMBERS BASED ON NACE CODES, WHICH IS WHAT'S THE INDUSTRY STANDARD? AND THAT'LL GIVE US INFORMATION ON HOW MANY VENDORS THERE ARE IN THIS METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA.

AND THEN WE'LL USE THAT COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF VENDORS THAT ARE REGISTERED IN OUR SYSTEM THAT ARE CERTIFIED SBS.

SO WHAT WOULD THAT RATIO INDICATE? THAT'S THE NUMBER OF AVAILABLE SB FIRMS TO PERFORM THE SCOPE.

AND SO YOU'RE USING THAT AS A GOAL OR A BENCHMARK FOR CONTRACTORS WISHING TO DO CITY WORK, THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE PARTICIPATION BY THAT PERCENTAGE OF THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SUBCONTRACTORS.

SO THEIR THEIR GOAL THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET IS THE TOTAL SB GOAL.

BUT WE'RE JUST SHOWING YOU HOW WE REACH THAT NUMBER.

SO IT MAY BE THEY MIGHT HAVE MORE TRUCKING SCOPES THAT ARE SUBCONTRACTED VERSUS ASPHALT PAVING, BUT THEY JUST HAVE TO MEET THE TOTAL SB GOAL.

OKAY. SO THESE NUMBERS FOR EXAMPLE UNDER VERTICAL FOR ELECTRICAL 7.6%, THAT'S NOT REALLY A GOAL IN ITSELF.

NO. IT'S JUST HOW WE REGISTRATION OF HOW THEY CAN MEET THE GOAL IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OTHER TRADES.

RIGHT. OKAY. AND ON SLIDE 23, THE THIRD CHECK IS PROMOTE BEST VALUE AND IT TALKS ABOUT BALANCING COST, QUALITY AND INCLUSION.

HOW IS THAT A CHANGE FROM OUR CURRENT SYSTEM? SO WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE OPTION TO DO BEST VALUE BIDS IN IN LIEU OF AWARDING TO THE LOWEST BIDDER.

IT ADDS EVALUATION CRITERIA, BUT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO NEGOTIATE PRICING.

SO WE CAN AWARD TO A VENDOR WHO'S NOT THE LOWEST.

WE JUST CANNOT NEGOTIATE THAT PRICING. WE DON'T DO IT OFTEN BECAUSE IT DOES ADD TIME TO THE PROCESS.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AVAILABILITY. AND SO IF WE HAVE A CONTRACT OUT THAT WE NORMALLY DO AS A BID AND WE AWARD TO THE LOWEST BIDDER, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SUBCONTRACTING OPPORTUNITIES, THEN WE WOULD PUT IT OUT AS A BEST VALUE BID AND AWARD IT BASED ON EVALUATION CRITERIA RATHER THAN LOWEST COST. RIGHT? BUT COST IS STILL A FACTOR.

HOW BIG A FACTOR? IT WILL DEPEND. SO 20% OF THE CRITERIA OF THE 100% IS THE BID OR THE DRIVE POLICY.

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THE OTHER 80% IS LEFT UP TO THE DEPARTMENT ON HOW THEY SPLIT UP THE CATEGORIES.

USUALLY IT'S APPROACH IT'S EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS PROJECT SCHEDULE.

AND TYPICALLY THE COST IS USUALLY ABOUT 30 TO 40% BUT 30 POINTS.

OKAY. SO THAT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN DETERMINING WHO GETS THE CONTRACT.

AND DOES THE DEPARTMENT HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY ON THAT PERCENTAGE.

THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY ON THAT 80%. SO THE ONLY FLEXIBILITY THEY DON'T HAVE IS THE 20% FOR DRIVE WHICH IS BASED UPON RANKING OF ACHIEVEMENT OF DRIVE GOALS. YES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. TEAM. I'M GOING TO START WITH A CONDIMENT SANDWICH.

THAT'S A SNL REFERENCE. IF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW. SORRY.

I'M GOING TO START. GOOD ADDRESS SOME THINGS IN GOOD.

FIRST OF ALL, GREAT ON HOW ALL OF THIS WAS AT LEAST THOUGHT THROUGH THE PROCESS FROM THERE.

I WANT TO START WITH. I GUESS, HOW WERE THE SIZE STANDARDS OR AS THE SIZE STANDARDS? I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO THE SB SIZE STANDARDS, BUT WERE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS OR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT POTENTIALLY ADJUSTING THOSE? I KNOW IN OTHER CITIES THEY THEY KIND OF REDUCE IT BASED ON THE, THE EITHER THE PERSONAL NET WORTH OR THEIR ANNUAL REVENUE.

HAVE HAVE WE GONE DOWN THAT PATHWAY, OR IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO DOWN THAT PATHWAY THERE? THERE DEFINITELY IS OPPORTUNITY. SO WE STARTED WITH THE SBA SIZE STANDARD.

THAT'S KIND OF THE INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR US. AND KNOWING THAT A LOT OF OUR AGENCIES, WHILE THEY QUALIFY TO BE SB, THEY'RE NOT YET CERTIFIED. SO IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER, AS THE VENDOR POOL GROWS, THEN WE CAN REDUCE THE REVENUE CAP. BUT WE WANTED TO TRY TO CATCH AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE COULD AT THE BEGINNING, BUT WE DID RESERVE THE RIGHT TO LOOK AT SPECIFIC REVENUE CAPS OR EMPLOYEE NUMBERS.

AND WE WOULD DO THAT FOLLOWING THE UTILIZATION STUDY.

OKAY. AND, AND YOU SAID SOMETHING EARLIER. LET ME JUST STICK TO MY LINE OF QUESTIONING FIRST.

YOU MENTIONED AND MAYBE I HEARD THIS, THE MARKET UTILIZATION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING NOW OR HAS IT ALREADY HAPPENED? CAN YOU JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND WHAT IT IS. SO PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS AND WHAT IT DOES.

SO IT'S IT'S REALLY WITH THE MWB PROGRAMS, YOU NEEDED TO HAVE AN AVAILABILITY AND DISPARITY STUDY, WHICH WOULD BE THE BASIS OF YOUR GOALS AND YOUR CRITERIA.

WITH A BE AN SBE PROGRAM, THERE'S NO DISPARITY THAT YOU HAVE TO CONDUCT.

SO YOU, YOU CONDUCT AN AVAILABILITY STUDY. NORMALLY THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, IN DEPTH TAKE A YEAR LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS OF OF YOUR CONTRACTING AND, AND EXPENSES.

BUT A UTILIZATION STUDY WAS CONDUCTED WITH OUR CURRENT CONSULTANT WHO HELPED US FRAME THIS POLICY.

SO IT'S KIND OF AN ABRIDGED AVAILABILITY STUDY, RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO TO TO ECHO WHAT MISS ORTIZ WAS SAYING, WE'VE HIRED A THIRD PARTY VENDOR WHO'S ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE ANALYSIS AS WE SPEAK, AND WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE THAT ANALYSIS INTO THE DRIVE POLICY.

OKAY. THAT'S PERFECT. SO THAT WILL THAT GIVE THAT SHOULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

SHOULD GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GO BACK AND THEN REVIEW SOME OF THOSE SIZE STANDARDS AS WELL.

CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. PERFECT. YES, SIR. EXACTLY.

COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR A MINUTE, IT GIVES YOU THE ADDITIONAL DATA SETS THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO DETERMINE BASED ON OUR MARKET WHAT THOSE SIZES ARE, THE SCALE OF THOSE BUSINESSES, EVERYTHING FROM THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT THEY'RE HIRING.

SO IT REALLY GIVES YOU MORE OF THAT LOCAL DATA THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO INFORM YOUR PROGRAM.

SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THAT IT HELPS US BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY DO THE FRAMEWORK, BUT EVEN GOING FORWARD IN UPDATING THAT UTILIZATION STUDY, WE MIGHT COME BACK AND THERE MIGHT NEED TO BE SOME TWEAKS WITH THOSE SIZE STANDARDS AS WELL.

SO IT JUST TELLS YOU WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR CURRENT MARKETPLACE.

PERFECT, PERFECT. AND THEN I REMEMBERED, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, FOR THE THE AVAILABLE VENDOR POOL.

WE ARE NOW NARROWING IT DOWN TO THE CITY OF DALLAS VENDOR POOL, NOT THE B2 OR THE RCA VENDOR POOL. I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE. I KNOW WE HAD 4000. I THINK YOU MENTIONED 4000. ALMOST 2300 OF THEM ARE SMALL BUSINESSES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IS THAT WAS THAT REFERENCING OUR VENDOR POOL THAT IS REFERENCING THE MSA?

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OKAY. YEAH. SO SO WE DID BASE IT BASED ON THE MSA FROM KIND OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CERTIFICATION AGENCIES AND THE AND THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS. BUT THE ACTUAL POINTS IN THE CRITERIA, WE WILL AWARD EXTRA POINTS FOR BEING DALLAS VENDORS.

OKAY. SO WHEN YOU DO THE LET ME GO TO THIS WHERE WAS IT? I LOST MY PLACE. THE WHEN YOU AWARD THOSE THE EVALUATION PIECE.

SLIDE 21 PLEASE. PLEASE GO TO SLIDE 21. THANK YOU.

SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH IN A IN A IN A. IT'S GONE.

LET ME KEEP GOING. SLIDE 21. THAT'S 23. THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU. IT'S GONE I'LL COME BACK TO THAT I FORGOT SO ANYWAY, I'LL STOP THERE AND JUST SAY THIS PROGRAM AND THIS IS A GOOD START FROM A FROM A GOODS AND SERVICES PERSPECTIVE.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'LL CONTINUE TO PREACH. CONTINUE TO PREACH BECAUSE I, I STILL HEAR SOME OF THE CONCERNS ECHOING IN THE CONSTRUCTION COMMUNITY.

SO THE GOOD IS THIS IS A GREAT START FROM A PROCUREMENT PERSPECTIVE, PARTICULARLY FOR GOODS AND SERVICES.

WE'VE WE'VE KNOWN THAT SMALL BUSINESSES HAD THE ABILITY TO ADJUST DURING COVID.

THEY'VE ALL BEEN ABLE TO PIVOT AND STILL BOUNCE BACK UNDER THAT SPACE AND FIND OPPORTUNITY.

AND I'M POSITIVE THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY ENHANCE THAT, PARTICULARLY WITH THOSE EMERGING BUSINESS PROGRAMS. I FORGET WHAT YOU CALLED IT, BUT THAT OPPORTUNITY, GIVING THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.

KIND OF THE FIRST RIGHT TO BE THAT CREATES A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, WHERE THIS PROGRAM AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S STILL ROOM TO CONTINUE TO EVOLVE IT ON SOME ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK IT STILL LACKS A LITTLE BIT OF ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE OF THINGS. AND THAT'S WHERE I HEAR MOST OF THE CONCERNS, BECAUSE IN THAT CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND ARCHITECTURE ENGINEERING INDUSTRY, YOU DON'T GET A CONTRACT. YOU DON'T GET THAT CONTRACT.

IT'S FINE. YOU DON'T GET THIS CONTRACT. YOU START GETTING CONCERNED. YOU DON'T GET THIS CONTRACT, YOU START GOING OUT OF BUSINESS. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROGRAM CONTINUES TO NOT JUST CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY, WHICH WE HAVE HISTORICALLY IN TERMS OF TRAINING VENDORS AND DOING THOSE THINGS.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO SEE MORE OF IS THAT ACCOUNTABILITY SIDE.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND I'VE SAID IT PUBLICLY, WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF THE SAME VENDORS THAT GET THE CONTRACTS.

AND I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE INCORPORATING THE UNBUNDLING PROCESS.

THAT, AGAIN, IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE I WANT TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE INTENTIONALITY ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, HOW IT CAN BE DONE FROM THERE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL HELP BENEFIT A LOT OF VENDORS THAT I HEAR STILL COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE OVERALL PIECE. THERE. SO CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT UNBUNDLING PIECE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE WHILE THEY'RE JUMP INTO UNBUNDLING PIECE? COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY I WANT TO DEFINITELY TALK ABOUT THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD MANY TIMES HOW THOSE SAME TYPE OF COMPLAINTS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT IT'S WIDESPREAD WHEN YOU LOOK FROM DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT, I THINK ONE OF THE BEAUTIES OF HOW WE'RE USING THIS NEW DRIVE POLICY FRAMEWORK, A LOT OF THE RESPONSIBILITY IN ENSURING THAT OUR ONGOING EFFORTS AND HOW WE SUPPORT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, THE WAYS THAT WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE CREATING THE DOOR.

THE DOOR IS OPENING FOR OTHER BUSINESSES TO COME AND BE A PART OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO THE WORK THAT WE STILL CONTINUE TO DO AT THE DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE, I THINK, FOR ME COMES IN.

IT'S MAKING SURE THAT AS PART OF OUR EVEN OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE WITH DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGERS, THAT WE'RE STILL UPHOLDING WHAT THIS WORK NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE.

AND SO WE'RE NOT MOVING AWAY FROM THE FOCUS ON ACCOUNTABILITY, CREATING ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITIES, AND MAKING SURE THAT BUSINESSES WHO HAVE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO BUSINESS BEFORE, THAT THIS DOESN'T PUSH THEM EVEN FURTHER AWAY, BUT IT BRINGS THEM IN CLOSER TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

SO I THINK ACCOUNTABILITY NUMBER ONE FOR YOU STARTS WITH ME AND HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT A LOT OF OUR PRACTICES, A LOT OF THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO EVOLVE IN THE WAY WE NOT ONLY LOOK AT THE CRITERIA, BUT A LOT OF IT IS IN THE OUTREACH THAT WE HAVE TO DO BEFORE THOSE PROCUREMENTS EVEN END UP ON THE STREET.

AND I THINK THROUGH THIS COLLABORATIVE MODEL THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT MANY OF OUR OTHER, I WOULD SAY PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS ARE ALL KIND OF FACING THE SAME THING.

THIS POLICY ALLOWS FOR THAT COLLABORATION TO BE GREATER.

WE'RE ALL TYPICALLY PULLING FROM THE SAME POOL, RIGHT? SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONNECTING TO A LOT OF THE OUTREACH THAT'S HAPPENING, WHETHER IT'S WITH DALLAS COUNTY, WHETHER IT'S HAPPENING WITH DART, WHETHER IT'S HAPPENING WITH DISD.

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WE'VE GOT TO BE AT THE TABLE BEING A PART OF THAT OUTREACH.

SO THOSE SAME ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE DOING BUSINESS WITH THEM KNOW HOW TO ALSO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS. AND WE'RE WE'RE WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS IN THIS POLICY AS NEEDED.

WE WANT TO HAVE A STRONG FOUNDATION. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALLOWING US TO DO.

AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE TO PERFECT, BUILD ON IT AND THEN COME BACK AND SHOW YOU THE RESULTS THAT WE'RE SEEING UNDER THIS NEW FRAMEWORK, BUT I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR POINTS ARE.

AND AND WE RECEIVE THOSE. BUT A LOT OF THAT ACCOUNTABILITY STARTS WITH HOW WE OPERATE AS A CITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'LL END THIS AT LEAST FIRST ROUND UNDER THESE LAST 30S.

JUST KIND OF STAYING THERE ON ACCOUNTABILITY. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVEN SITE VISITS FROM A COMPLIANCE.

I KNOW AT 1.1 OF THESE MEETINGS WE TALKED ABOUT FROM A CONSTRUCTION PERSPECTIVE, ARE THEY PUTTING THEIR EQUIPMENT UP, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE SOME WAY THAT WE CAN. WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR POINTS.

AND UNDER THIS NEW FRAME MODEL, THE POINTS ARE FAIRLY EASY TO GET UNDER THE SBC STANDARD.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME WAY OF POINT REDUCTION SYSTEM.

I'LL COME BACK FOR ANOTHER ROUND. MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I HAD REALLY SOME QUESTIONS. JUST TO BE EDUCATED A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS.

I THINK THIS IS A LAUDABLE PROGRAM. I THINK IT'S JUST TERRIFIC.

WE WANT TO. I REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THE POOL OF QUALIFIED VENDORS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

ABSOLUTELY. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE AND IS EASILY THAT REGISTRATION IS EASY FOR THE FOLKS THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN IT.

I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE CUMBERSOME. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE ADMINISTRATIVELY OBSTRUCTIVE.

WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE QUALIFIED TO GET THEM THESE OPPORTUNITIES.

MY QUESTION ON ON THE DEFINITION OF AN SB IS WHAT I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR ON AND TO, TO SORT OF FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILMAN GRACIE'S COMMENT IS THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE'S A FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE DEFINITION OF SB, HOW IS THAT DETERMINED? IS IT BASED ON SBA CRITERIA? IS IT DO WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY ON ON CHANGING THOSE FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE OUR NEEDS RATHER THAN OR IS SBA A MAXIMUM OR IS IT A MINIMUM? HOW HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT THE FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS ARE OF AN SBA? YEAH. SO THE SBA STANDARDS CHANGE APPROXIMATELY EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS.

THE LAST UPDATE WAS 2023. AND IT'S BASED ON THE EITHER EMPLOYEE COUNT AVERAGE OR THE RECEIPTS. THE GROSS RECEIPTS FOR THE BUSINESS AND THE NUMBER FOR THE SBA CAN BE PRETTY LARGE.

SO IN A CATEGORY LIKE CONSTRUCTION YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE A REVENUE OF $45 MILLION IN INDUSTRY.

YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE 500 EMPLOYEES AND STILL BE CONSIDERED SMALL.

SO THE NUMBERS FOR THE SBA ARE ARE LARGER THAN WHAT I THINK IN THE FUTURE WE WOULD HAVE.

BUT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO RIGHT NOW GET THE BIGGEST POOL WE CAN AND THEN USING THE UTILIZATION STUDY, THEY MIGHT COME BACK AND SAY THE BUSINESSES AND THE IN THE DALLAS MSA, YOUR YOUR REVENUE THRESHOLD SHOULD REALLY BE 20 MILLION OR 10 MILLION.

AND WE'LL GET THAT DATA FROM THE STUDY, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL TO REDUCE THOSE.

BUT THAT IS A MAXIMUM NUMBER. AND IT'S SET BY THE SBA EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS.

OKAY. SO MY POINT THOUGH IS WITH THE INFLATION, WITH THE COST OF PROJECTS BEING HIGHER WITH INCOME REVENUE RESPONSIBILITIES COMING IN HIGHER, GENERALLY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR LEVEL OF ENTRY IS NOT TOO LOW BECAUSE WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT PEOPLE'S BUSINESSES, EVEN THOUGH THE TOP LINE MAY BE HIGH, THE BOTTOM LINE MAY BE LOW.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE'RE OPEN UP TO A TRULY INFLATION PROTECTED SMALL BUSINESS ANALYSIS AND AND REQUIREMENTS.

THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF A PATH OF TRACKING AND AND AVAILABILITY TO ENCOURAGE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WE ARE HELPING GROW TO CONTINUE AS FUTURE VENDORS FOR SOME OF OUR OUR LARGER PROJECTS AS THEY THAT WE CONTINUE TO NOT ONLY STIMULATE THEIR GROWTH, BUT THEN ALSO TO FURTHER AND, AND AND ALLOW THEM TO PROGRESS INTO A LARGER CATEGORY TO, TO ENHANCE THEIR GROWTH.

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SO AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS OUT ADMINISTRATIVELY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS OUT WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENTS TO TRACK PEOPLE, TO SORT OF ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, TO HELP PEOPLE DO THAT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S PART OF YOUR, YOUR MISSION.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING AS BIG OF A POOL AS WE CAN HERE.

I AND THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING PEOPLE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PERCENTAGES AND OF THE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE THAT THAT DOESN'T.

TO ME, THAT'S A DIFFICULT, ADMINISTRATIVELY COMPLICATED PROCESS.

BUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUTREACH TO ANY COMPANY OR ANY INDIVIDUAL, ANY ENTITY, ANY COMPANY THAT MEETS THOSE CRITERIAS, AND THAT WE DO AN OUTREACH TO THOSE THINGS THROUGH WHATEVER RESOURCES WE CAN.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY OR GET CONSULTING PEOPLE TO TELL US HOW TO DO IT.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE ALL OVER THIS AREA TO TO, TO MAKE WE SHOULD BE OUTREACHING TO THEM TO SAY, WE'VE GOT THESE PROGRAMS. WE WANT YOU TO COME HERE.

WE WANT YOU TO WE WANT TO HELP YOU GET INTO THIS PROGRAM.

SO TO WHATEVER EXTENT YOU'RE DOING THAT, I APPLAUD YOU TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S NOT BEING DONE OR COULD BE ENHANCED.

I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE US TO REACH OUT AND DO THAT IN A MORE PRODUCTIVE WAY.

COUNCILMAN ROTH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THOSE COMMENTS.

EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, MISS ORTIZ WAS SHARING THAT THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, THE CONTRACTORS, ASSOCIATIONS, THERE'S A WHOLE BEVY OF OF PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO THAT OUTREACH FOR US.

AND WE'RE ALWAYS IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM. AND THEY'RE ONE OF OUR PARTNERS IN THIS, AND THEY'VE BEEN A PARTNER IN DEVELOPING THE ACTUAL DRIVE POLICY.

WE'VE BEEN TASKING THEM WITH GOING TO THEIR MEMBERSHIP AND BEING A PART OF THE EDUCATION PROCESS, WITH THE HOPES THAT ADDITIONAL PEOPLE WHO IN THE PAST MAY NOT HAVE WANTED TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY WILL DO SO NOW.

THANK YOU. THE OTHER THING IS, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU ALL THAT PEOPLE DO APPLY AND WANT TO REGISTER.

WHAT RESOURCES ARE WE PROVIDING TO HELP THEM GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS? I MEAN, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING THROUGH ALL KINDS OF PROCESSES, MUCH EVEN IF I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.

AND SO HOW DO WHAT ARE WE DOING PROACTIVELY AS A CITY? DO WE HAVE A DEPARTMENT? DO WE NOT A DEPARTMENT? DO WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL? DO WE HAVE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO, WHERE SOMEBODY CAN HELP THEM FILL OUT THE FORMS, HELP THEM GET IT? IS THERE A IS THERE A RESOURCE OPPORTUNITY THAT'S EASY TO ACCESS TO HELP PEOPLE GET REGISTERED? YEAH, WE HAVE THE BA, THE BUSINESS ENTERPRISE HUB GROUP THAT MARISSA OVERSEES.

WE HAVE TWO BUSINESS COMPLIANCE OFFICERS, AND WE ALSO DO MEET AND GREETS.

KIM DOES MEET AND GREETS WITH VENDORS. SO IF THEY REACH OUT TO US AND SAY THEY WANT TO KIND OF TALK TO US ABOUT OUR PROCESS.

WE'LL HAVE A BUYER SIT WITH THEM AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT TAKES TO REGISTER, HOW TO REGISTER, AND AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN PART OF, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE OUR FINAL POLICY, WE WILL DEFINITELY INCLUDE OUTREACH INITIATIVE AND MAKE SURE THAT A LOT OF IT IS DOCUMENTED SO THAT IF WE CAN'T MAKE EVERY MEETING, THEY AT LEAST HAVE A RESOURCE TO GO ON ONLINE THAT SHOWS LIKE HOW STEP BY STEP PROCESS OF HOW TO REGISTER AND DO ALL OF THAT. THANK YOU.

MISS BLAIR, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I ONLY HAVE ONE, MAYBE ONE, MAYBE TWO QUESTIONS.

ON PAGE 27, YOU SAID THAT THEY'RE THE AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING.

THEN WE WILL RELOOK AT THIS IN AUGUST OF 2026.

WILL THERE BE THE OPPORTUNITY AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME FOR US TO TWEAK ANYTHING THAT WE SEE THAT MAY NEED TO BE ADJUSTED? IT. YES. SO THE THE POLICY WILL BE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AND WE CAN COME BACK AT ANY POINT WITH CHANGES OR RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE JUST SAID AUGUST TO GIVE SOME TIME TO ACTUALLY GET COMPANIES REGISTERED, GET SOME SOLICITATIONS OUT THERE WITH THE GOALS AND FEEDBACK FROM STAKEHOLDERS.

BUT IT CAN BE UPDATED AT ANY POINT BY THE COUNCIL.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. I'M DONE. HEY, CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

OKAY. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

THIS IS A IT'S A IT'S A DECENT START. AND AGAIN WHERE I'M COMING FROM IS AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THESE ADJUSTMENTS AND AS WE CONTINUE TO KIND OF ADJUST TO THIS ENVIRONMENT WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

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BUT I THINK THAT SENTIMENT FROM THE CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING COMMUNITY HASN'T CHANGED MUCH.

IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT THE APPRECIATIVE OF THE OUTREACH AND ALL OF THAT, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF WHAT WILL CHANGE FOR THEM.

WHAT WILL THESE CHANGES? HOW WILL IT IMPACT THEM, AND WILL THEY BE ABLE TO FEEL IT? WILL THEY BE ABLE TO DO IT? OR ARE THEY STILL GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THE SAME COMPLAINTS? AND RIGHT NOW I'M HEARING SOME OF THE SAME COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS.

SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, PARTICULARLY COMING BACK IN AUGUST 2026, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PROCUREMENT PROCESS DEFINITELY CAN CONTINUE.

I THINK IT'S BACK TO UNDERSTANDING THE UNIQUENESS OF THOSE ISSUES.

AND I KNOW THAT NOT ALL OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH ACROSS THE BOARD, THAT THEY'RE ALL THE SAME.

HOWEVER, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO RESET AND LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ELEVATE.

AND YOU SAID SOMETHING EARLIER ABOUT IT'S ACCOUNTABILITY FOR US, BUT IT'S ALSO AN ACCOUNTABILITY FACTOR FOR THE CONTRACTORS.

AND OFTENTIMES WHAT WE WHAT WE HEAR IS, WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL LATER OR I FELT LIKE IT WAS GOING TO REQUIRE TOO MUCH AND I'M ALREADY AT CAPACITY.

SO WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE, WHICH IS WHY I TALK ABOUT THE COLLABORATION THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS.

OUR MARKETPLACE IS REALLY THE SAME. SO OFTENTIMES WHAT WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT INFORMATION IS OUT THERE, BUT THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN THOSE CONTRACTORS WHO'VE NOT DONE BUSINESS BEFORE, ONCE THEY DO GET AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL, THAT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL AT IT.

SO THERE'S A LOT ON THE FRONT END THAT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

BUT THERE'S ALSO THE THINGS ON THE BACK END WE'VE GOT TO DO BOTH.

AND I THINK WHAT THIS IS ALLOWING US TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD, TAKING THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION IN THIS NEW POLICY FRAMEWORK.

BUT IT'S NOT A ONE TIME THING. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE LEARNED. THIS WHOLE SMALL BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT IS ONE THAT I TRULY BELIEVE.

AS WE LOOK AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A BETTER JOB, BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STILL HAVING THOSE ONE ON ONES.

YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE BEST WAY TO DO BUSINESS. HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR AND DOING A LOT OF THAT WORK TO WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SOME OF THOSE SAME CONCERNS, WHERE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND WE'RE IN THIS FLOW, AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ONCE WE'RE IN THE FLOW, HOW TO PULL COMPANIES IN. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GIVE AND TAKE.

WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE COUNCIL. WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE UNIQUE THINGS THAT YOU'RE HEARING AND HOW WE CAN ENSURE THAT AS WE LOOK AT THIS FRAMEWORK, THAT WE'RE MAKING THOSE WE'RE MAKING CONCESSIONS, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING IT FOR JUST THE SAKE OF IT, BUT IT'S SO WE CAN BE BETTER AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT THIS POOL OF CONTRACTORS, THAT IT'S DIVERSE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER ROTH, OF MAKING THE MAKING THE COMMENTS ABOUT MAKING THE PROCESS EASY.

WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS OUR RESTART, THIS IS OUR RESET, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO PERFECT IT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. AND THEN JUST THE LAST COMMENT AND IT MAY ALREADY BE HAPPENING TO AND I APOLOGIZE AND ASK THIS IN ADVANCE.

BUT AN ANALYSIS OF OUR EXISTING VENDOR DATABASE, I WOULD IMAGINE POTENTIALLY UNDER THE MARKET UTILIZATION PIECE THAT SOME BECAUSE AGAIN, THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE. AND I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY OF THEM HAVEN'T RESPONDED OR, I DON'T KNOW, JUST AN ANALYSIS OF THE, OF THE VENDOR DATABASE BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE FISHING FROM THE SAME POND AND I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW MANY.

I JUST GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT A REQUEST TO FILL A POND WITH SOME FISH.

I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW HOW MANY MORE FISH ARE.

HOW ARE WE? HOW ARE WE ACCOMPLISHING INCREASING MORE NEW VENDOR REGISTRATIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SO THAT'LL JUST BE ANOTHER LAYER I'LL CIRCLE BACK WHEN I HAVE A CLEAR WAY TO TO FRAME THAT, BUT VENDOR DATABASE ANALYSIS. GREAT. AND AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT AND WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE AS MANY OFFLINE CONVERSATIONS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, IS HOW DO WE GET IN A PRACTICE OF WHERE A LOT OF THE WORK, SOME OF THAT WORK IS DONE TO WHERE WE CREATE THESE POOLS, WHERE COMPANIES ALREADY HAVE BEEN KIND OF PRE-QUALIFIED, AND THEN WE ENSURE THAT AS PART OF THAT POOL THAT WE'RE CREATING.

AND I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD ROTATE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A GOOD WORD. BUT HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT SEVERAL COMPANIES WITHIN THAT POOL ARE NOW GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY? RIGHT. AND WE'RE NOT ALWAYS STARTING FROM SCRATCH. SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS THAT AS THIS TEAM AND THEY'VE BEEN EXTREMELY INNOVATIVE, THEY'VE GOT THE GREAT EXTERNAL EXPERTISE AT THE TABLE HELPING THEM.

WE REALLY WANT THIS TO BE A THRIVING, ROBUST MARKETPLACE ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE CITY.

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AND SOME OF THAT MIGHT START WITH, LET'S LOOK AT CERTAIN TYPES OF PROCUREMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

LET'S CREATE THOSE POOLS IN ADVANCE. AND THEN EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT WE NEED TO GO AND PULL FROM THAT POOL, THAT POOL ACTUALLY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SEVERAL OF THOSE BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.

IN SOME PLACES, THEY CALL IT AN EVERGREEN. I GOT TO COME UP WITH A MORE CREATIVE NAME, BUT THIS TEAM UNDERSTANDS THE GOAL AND I KNOW WE'LL GET IT DONE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND GOOD JOB TEAM. THAT'S MY OTHER SIDE OF THE SANDWICH.

MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

JUST ANOTHER COMMENT. THIS TO ME IS A IS NOT ONLY A AN ASSISTANCE TO FOLKS TO TO GET A, A NEW BUSINESS START, BUT THIS IS A TREMENDOUS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CITY TO, TO ESTABLISH A PROACTIVE WAY TO TRY TO RECRUIT NEW SMALL BUSINESSES INTO OUR COMMUNITY. AND I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS THAT THIS THESE KIND OF PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE THE ADVANTAGES THAT WE'RE GIVING TO FOLKS NEED TO BE DEDICATED TO PEOPLE THAT ARE IN DALLAS.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MSA MEANS. I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG OF A OF A OF AN AREA THAT IS.

BUT IF I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE SPECIAL ATTENTION, SPECIAL CRITERIA ADVANTAGES TO THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY HAVE PROPERTY IN DALLAS THAT HAVE BUSINESSES IN DALLAS THAT HAVE THEIR LOCATION IN DALLAS, WHERE THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE IN DALLAS.

ALL THOSE TANGENTIAL BENEFITS OF HAVING A NEW BUSINESS GENERATE SALES TAX, GENERATE PROPERTY TAX, GENERATES HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, GENERATES DEVELOPMENTS.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE THIS IS A TERRIFIC SMALL WAY TO STIMULATE THE GROWTH AND THE DEVELOPMENT FINANCIALLY, FISCALLY, AND ALSO YOU KNOW TO PROMOTE DALLAS AS A PLACE THAT WE ARE, WE WANT TO RECEIVE NEW BUSINESSES, WE WANT TO DEVELOP NEW BUSINESSES.

WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE NEW BUSINESSES, THEIR EMPLOYEES, THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR VENDORS, THEIR AND THEIR PURCHASES.

AND AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF OUR, OF OUR PROMOTION AND OUR MESSAGE TO, TO THE COMMUNITY GENERALLY THAT WE'RE OPEN NOT ONLY TO DO BUSINESS, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO ESTABLISH NEW BUSINESS.

SO ANYWAY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT TO BE VERY PROACTIVELY PART OF OUR, OF OUR OF OUR WHOLE PROCESS HERE.

SO THE DALLAS MSA IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING. YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE MSA TO BE A REGISTERED CERTIFIED SB, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO POINTS AND EVALUATION CRITERIA IS WHERE WE FOCUS ON DALLAS BASED BUSINESSES.

SO IF 30% OF YOUR WORKFORCE OR IF YOU'RE HEADQUARTERED IN DALLAS, YOU WOULD GET ADDITIONAL POINTS IF YOU USE VENDOR.

IF SOME OF YOUR SUBCONTRACTORS MAY NOT BE CERTIFIED, BUT THEY'RE LOCAL VENDORS OR SUPPLIERS, IF YOU'RE USING THE SUPPLY CHAIN IN DALLAS, WE GET EXTRA POINTS THERE.

AND THEN ALSO WE INCLUDED A COMMUNITY INVESTMENT, AN EXTRA POINT FOR IF YOU'RE DOING APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, TRAINING PROGRAMS, INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS IN A DALLAS BASED, YOU KNOW AREA OR PARTNER, THEN YOU WOULD GET ADDITIONAL POINTS.

AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO ENCOURAGE THE NEW SBS AND YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT GROWING CAPACITY AND GRADUATING FROM THE PROGRAM.

ADDITIONAL POINTS FOR BIDDING AS A FIRST TIME PRIME CONTRACTOR, AS AN SB, OR BRINGING NEW SBS AS PART OF YOUR PLAN FOR SUBCONTRACTING? BRINGING A VENDOR THAT'S NEVER DONE WORK WITH THE CITY BEFORE? I WOULD I WOULD ENCOURAGE THOSE EXTRA POINTS TO EVEN BE MORE AGGRESSIVE.

MAYBE YOU GOT TO GIVE MORE EXTRA POINTS FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE HOW YOU'RE EVALUATING IT.

IT'S TOO COMPLICATED FOR ME, BUT BUT THE POINT IS, LET'S LET'S REALLY SORT OF LEAN TOWARDS ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DO BUSINESS HERE IN TOWN IF WE CAN. OKAY. YES, SIR. AND WE WE WE TAKE THE POINTS, I THINK.

SLIDE NUMBER 21 TELLS THE EXACT STORY, COUNCIL MEMBER THAT YOU WANT US TO TELL AND WHAT YOU WANT US TO AMPLIFY.

THANK THE TEAM FOR THE RESPONSE. I THINK I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT I KNOW THAT SLIDE 21 IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR.

THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THIS PANEL? OKAY, I DON'T SEE ANY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

[CLOSED SESSION]

AND WHEN WE COME BACK WE'LL TAKE UP ITEM B. MADAM CITY MANAGER IF THAT'S COOL WITH YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WONDERFUL. THEN LET ME READ THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE AND WE'LL GO INTO EXEC. IT IS 12:14 P.M.

ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2025. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551 .071 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON

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TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM NUMBERS THREE, FOUR AND FIVE AND UNDER SECTION 551 .072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM NUMBERS THREE AND FOUR. WITH THAT, WE WILL RECONVENE AT 1 P.M..

WE STAND AT RECESS UNTIL 1 P.M.. OKAY. I'M TOLD WE HAVE A QUORUM.

SO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS FIVE, 51.071 AND 551 .072 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

AND AT 2:46 P.M. ON DECEMBER 3RD, 2025, WE'VE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY, ARE WE READY TO GO TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR HER BRIEFINGS? NOTHING ELSE. OKAY, WE'RE BACK TO YOU, CITY MANAGER.

[B. 25-3203A 2024 Long Range Water Supply Plan Update]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO NOW PRESENT OUR LAST BRIEFING ITEM FOR THE YEAR.

ITEM B IS REGARDING A THE WATER LONG RANGE PLAN.

DALLAS WATER UTILITIES IS A REGIONAL PROVIDER OF DRINKING WATER, WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER SERVICES WITH OVER 2.6 MILLION CUSTOMERS REPRESENTING 27 DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES AND AGENCIES ACROSS NORTH TEXAS.

AS SUCH, THE UTILITY UNDERTAKES LONG RANGE PLANNING EFFORTS TO ENSURE THAT RETAIL AND WHOLESALE CUSTOMERS WILL HAVE AVAILABLE DRINKING WATER THROUGHOUT A 50 YEAR PLANNING CYCLE. CONSISTENT WITH STATEWIDE LEGISLATIVE MANDATES, THE 2024 LONG RANGE WATER SUPPLY PLAN WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 2024. AND TODAY WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.

THIS REALLY JUST REFRESHES FOR YOU SOME OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THAT PLAN, AS WELL AS OUR SHORT AND LONG TERM EFFORTS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDERTAKING AND HOW WE MOVE THAT PLAN FORWARD AT THIS TIME. IT GIVES ME PLEASURE TO TURN THIS OVER TO SARAH STANDIFORD, FOR A DIRECTOR OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. SHE'LL LEAD THE PRESENTATION AND INTRODUCE HER STAFF.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'LL LET THE BRIEFING GET DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU ALL.

AND WITH ME, I HAVE MATT PINK. HE IS OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OVER OUR CAPITAL SERVICES AND LONG RANGE WATER SUPPLY PLANNING.

SO WHILE WE WAIT ON THAT, I'LL GET YOU GUYS KIND OF STARTED.

AND SOME OF THE EARLIER MATERIAL AS CITY MANAGER TOLBERT MENTIONED, WE ARE A REGIONAL WATER SUPPLY ORGANIZATION.

WE SUPPLY WATER TO BOTH OUR RETAIL CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS 27 OTHER CITIES.

TODAY, AS WE GO THROUGH KIND OF THE UPDATE AND REMINDER, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STATE AND REGIONAL FLOOD PLANNING PROCESS. WE'LL GO OVER OUR APPROVED 2024 WATER PLAN THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE STATE'S WATER PLANNING PROCESS, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT SORT OF WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE AND WHAT YOU ALL CAN EXPECT TO SEE IN THE SHORT AND NEAR TERM.

SO ON SLIDE THREE, JUST A QUICK REMINDER. WE WERE ESTABLISHED BY THE CHARTER IN 1881.

WE ARE A REGIONAL PROVIDER WATER, WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER SERVICES.

OUR ASSETS WERE VALUED IN 2025 AT JUST ABOUT $6.5 BILLION DOLLARS.

WE ARE FUNDED FROM WHOLESALE AND RETAIL RATES, AND WE'VE GOT ABOUT 1600 EMPLOYEES AND A LITTLE OVER $1 BILLION IN OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET. SLIDE FOUR JUST GIVES YOU KIND OF SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE ASSETS.

SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DRINKING WATER SUPPLY SYSTEM, WE'VE GOT SEVEN RESERVOIRS, SIX OF WHICH ARE CONNECTED.

WE'VE GOT THREE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS THAT CAN PRODUCE ABOUT 900 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY.

WE HAVE 29 PUMP STATIONS 12 GROUND STORAGE TANKS AND TEN ELEVATED STORAGE TANKS THAT GET YOUR WATER FROM OUR TREATMENT PLANTS INTO YOUR HOMES AND BUSINESSES. SLIDE FIVE WILL GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHEN AND HOW OUR CUSTOMER CITIES CAME ON BOARD.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF CUSTOMER CITIES THAT WE DO SUPPLY WATER TO.

THEY ARE PART OF OUR LONG RANGE PLAN. AND THE REGION IS DIVIDED AMONG ABOUT FOUR PROVIDERS.

SO WE ARE ONE OF FOUR PROVIDERS FOR THE NORTH TEXAS REGION.

AND OUR FIRST CUSTOMER CAME ON BOARD SHORTLY, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AROUND THE 19 2930 TIME FRAME.

AND OUR LAST CUSTOMERS CAME ON AND BEFORE THE 2000 TIME FRAME.

SO ON SLIDE SIX YOU KNOW, AS PART OF WATER PLANNING, THE STATE ACTUALLY PASSED A SENATE BILL IN 1997 THAT REQUIRED REGIONAL WATER PLANS TO COME TOGETHER AND THEN FOLD INTO A LARGER STATE WATER PLAN.

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YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. IT'S ALSO ABOUT ECONOMIC PROSPERITY FOR THE STATE.

OUR LOCAL PLANS ARE DRIVEN BY A BOARD PROCESS.

SO EACH OF THE UTILITY PROVIDERS BRING IN THEIR PLANS.

IT COMES IN THROUGH REGION C FOR US. AND THEN IT GOES INTO THE PLANNING CYCLE AT THE STATE.

OUR PLAN THAT YOU ALL APPROVED FOR US IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR HAS BEEN SUBMITTED THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND IT IS MOVING FORWARD UNDER THE 2027 STATE WATER PLAN.

REGENCY IS MADE UP OF ABOUT 16 COUNTIES. THE POPULATION TODAY IS ABOUT 7.7 MILLION.

56 CITIES HAVE POPULATIONS GREATER THAN 20,000.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A BIG SERVICE AREA. WE TAKE ABOUT A THIRD OF THAT AS OUR CUSTOMERS.

WE DO SEE IN ALL OF OUR PLANNING ACROSS THIS REGION, ALMOST A DOUBLING OF POPULATION BY 2080.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWICE AS MANY PEOPLE THAT WE ALL NEED TO PROVIDE WATER FOR.

SLIDE EIGHT DALLAS WATER UTILITIES REALLY WENT INTO A LOT OF OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING IN THE DROUGHT OF RECORDS IN THE 50S.

IT WAS A ROUGH TIME FOR EVERYBODY. AND SO WE BEGAN OUR FIRST BIG REGIONAL PLAN OR LOCAL PLANNING THAT THEN ROLLED INTO REGIONAL.

AND WE DO THESE ABOUT EVERY TEN YEARS. SO YOU GET A PLAN THAT'S ABOUT 50 YEARS WORTH OF TIME IN THERE.

YOU GET ABOUT A TEN YEAR CYCLE, AND YOU START BACK OVER AND YOU REVALIDATE AND REWORK THROUGH IN 1959, THAT PLAN WAS THE ONE THAT SAID WE WOULD WOULD OFFICIALLY BE A REGIONAL PROVIDER AND SUPPLY WATER TO OTHERS, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE ALREADY DOING THOSE EFFORTS.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL KIND OF TALK. IT GIVES YOU SOME IDEAS OF WHAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE LONG RANGE PLANNING.

YOU KNOW WHAT AMOUNT OF WATER, WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE? WE RANK THINGS BASED ON COST, WHETHER IT'S CAPITAL, O&M COSTS, WHETHER IT'S REALLY FEASIBLE.

ARE THERE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS BECAUSE NEW WATER IS VERY DIFFICULT TO PERMIT.

CAN YOU GET A PERMIT? HOW DO YOU GET THOSE PERMITS AND SECURE THEM? WHAT WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE TO TREAT. ARE WE GETTING WATER SOMEWHERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLETELY CHANGE TREATMENT PROCESSES AT GOOD QUALITY AND ALL THOSE KIND OF FACTOR IN. SO WHAT WE WILL TELL YOU IS THE WATER WE HAVE TODAY IS THE CHEAPEST WATER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.

IT IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WATER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.

AND SO WITH EACH STRETCH, THE FURTHER WE HAVE TO GO FOR WATER, THE MORE EXPENSIVE THAT WATER BECOMES.

AND IT REALLY DOES SET THAT STAGE FOR A LOT OF OUR REGIONAL EFFORTS AND REGIONAL PARTNERSHIPS.

SLIDE TEN IS JUST A QUICK VISUAL THAT SORT OF SHOWS YOU WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF DECADE BY DECADE.

SO WHEN WE DO OUR WATER PLANNING, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE PLANS THAT COME IN AS A DECADE AT A TIME.

WHAT WE WILL NEED FROM A DAILY AND THOSE DEMANDS AND HOW THEY GROW.

SLIDE 11. THE PLAN ITSELF IS GOING TO OUTLINE FOR YOU ALL AND WHAT YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED KIND OF IN THE FUTURE, TO GET TO 2080, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED 13% OF THE PLAN IS GOING TO BE MADE UP OF CONSERVATION RELATED EFFORTS.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 33% OF THE PLAN WILL BE IN DIRECT REUSE.

SO THINGS LIKE THE NORTH TEXAS SWAP THAT'S IN THIS NEAR TERM THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE, OR OUR MAIN STEM BALANCING RESERVOIR. SOME OF THOSE PIECES, 23% IS GOING TO BE CONNECTION TO EXISTING SUPPLIES.

SO LAKE PALESTINE IS OUR SEVENTH RESERVOIR. IT'S NOT CONNECTED TO THE SYSTEM.

BUT THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF CONNECTING TO OUR EXISTING SUPPLIES.

25% WILL BE NEW SURFACE WATER. SO NEW SURFACE WATER IS HARD, RIGHT? THOSE ARE EITHER A NEW RESERVOIR. IT IS A NEW OFF CHANNEL LAKE.

THOSE ARE HARD TO PERMIT. THEY'RE COSTLY. AND 6% OF OUR SUPPLY IN 2080 WILL BE GROUNDWATER BASED.

SO OUT OF THE CARRIZO AQUIFER. AND SLIDE 17 IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THOSE STRATEGIES THAT WE WILL BE USING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE NEED IT, WHERE THE GAP BEGINS TO FILL IN 13.

THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES THAT YOU ALL APPROVED.

SO KIND OF DONE BY MILLION GALLONS PER DAY. SO THAT'S WHAT EACH ONE OF THOSE RESOURCES WILL BRING IN.

AND THIS IS SORT OF A GEOGRAPHIC LOOK OF A OF A PICTURE.

RIGHT. SLIDE 14 ARE ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES. SO THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES TO NOTE IS THAT WITH WATER SUPPLY AND LONG RANGE PLANNING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES. THEY MEET ALL THE NEEDS, BUT THEY MAY NOT COME TO FRUITION, ONE OF THESE ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES COULD COME TO FRUITION SOONER THAN A RECOMMENDED STRATEGY.

SO YOU ALL APPROVED A PLAN THAT ALLOWED US TO LOOK AT BOTH THE RECOMMENDED AND CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THESE ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES, AND ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES MAY ALSO BE IN OTHER PLANS.

JUST LIKE RECOMMENDED. WE COULD HAVE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL OR TARRANT REGIONAL. THEY COULD ALSO HAVE THESE STRATEGIES. SO IF THEY MOVED FORWARD AND IT WAS A BENEFICIAL THING TO DALLAS AND OUR CUSTOMERS, THEN WE WOULD ALSO COST PARTICIPATE.

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AND THAT MIGHT MOVE STRATEGIES IN AND OUT FROM AN ALTERNATIVE TO A RECOMMENDED.

AND SLIDE 15 AND 16 SORT OF BRINGS YOU INTO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SEE IN THE NEAR TERM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 50 YEAR PLANS, THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S REALLY FAR OUT. BUT WE ARE WE ARE GOING TO BRING YOU SOME THINGS OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO THAT ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU CONSIDERATION ITEMS TO KEEP US MOVING FORWARD. OUR RECOMMENDED SORT OF STRATEGY OF ADDITIONAL CONSERVATION, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THE WATER WE HAVE TODAY IS GOING TO BE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE, MOST AVAILABLE WATER WE'VE GOT.

WE NEED TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BOTH AS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, TO CONSERVE THAT WATER.

WE HAVE A FIVE YEAR CONSERVATION PLAN THAT YOU APPROVE.

YOU ALL APPROVED THAT IN 24 AS WELL. SO THAT'S PART OF OUR REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS.

IT'S ALSO YOU KNOW, CONSERVATION IS REALLY ABOUT LONG TERM WATER SUPPLY.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT CONSERVING THE WATER. IT'S REALLY ABOUT DEMAND STRATEGIES.

IT'S ABOUT SUPPLY STRATEGIES. SO SLIDE 17. THESE ARE SOME NEW THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.

YOU ALL HAD IN THE WATER CONSERVATION PLAN THAT WE HAD WORKED WITH YOU ON.

SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES WERE LISTED AS THE NEXT STEPS FORWARD.

WE'VE KIND OF GOTTEN OUR MAXIMUM OUT OF OUR NEW THROWN FOR YOUR HOME PROGRAMS. WE'LL CONTINUE TO RUN THOSE, BUT THESE BRING IN NEW STRATEGIES.

SO WE HAVE AN IRRIGATION AUDIT PROGRAM THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE BEEN OFFERING.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS THAT WE'VE GONE OUT AND LOOKED AT THEIR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS. WE'RE GOING TO PILOT IN THE SPRING, A PROGRAM WHERE WE CAN GO BACK TO SOME OF THOSE CUSTOMERS AND IMPLEMENT A REBATE PROGRAM.

SO BUBBLERS THINGS THAT CHANGE OUT. THESE OLD IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, OLD IRRIGATION SYSTEMS ARE SOME OF THE LARGEST WATER USAGE THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE SYSTEM, RIGHT. SO OFFERING SOME REBATES OVER TIME TO GET THEM TO SWAP OUT NEWER AND BETTER COMPONENTS.

THAT'LL GET US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 4 MILLION GALLONS A DAY PER YEAR FOR EACH PERSON, RIGHT? SO THE OTHER THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IN 2012 DALLAS REALLY LED THE FOREFRONT OF THE REGION.

WE CAME OUT WITH TIME OF DAY WATERING TWICE WEEKLY, AND IT WAS A TOUGH THING BACK IN 2012, IT WAS UNHEARD OF. RIGHT. SO WE IMPLEMENTED THAT EARLY ON.

WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BRING TO YOU ALL IN THE SPRING IS A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE TO YEAR ROUND, TIME OF DAY WATERING. WHAT WE SEE IN OUR DEMANDS AND WHERE WE SEE WATER LOSS DURING THE DAYS, PEOPLE ARE WATERING MORE FREQUENTLY THROUGHOUT THE COOLER MONTHS.

WE LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE SWAP OUT THEIR COOL WEATHER GRASSES AND NOT PLANT THOSE GRASSES AND WATER THEM ALL YEAR, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND SOME STRATEGIES LIKE YEAR ROUND TIME OF DAY WATERING TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

SO ONE EXTRA STEP AND THE NEXT SLIDE ON SLIDE 19.

THIS IS THE NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT SWAP.

SO BACK IN 2008, WE ENTERED SORT OF SOME AGREEMENTS WITH NORTH TEXAS REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS A SWAP OF OUR OF OUR REUSE, RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE SOME WATER RIGHTS. THEY HAVE SOME WATER RIGHTS.

THEY BUILT INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE OUR WATER RIGHTS ARE.

WE'RE GOING TO SWAP THE USE SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THEIRS AND PUT THEM INTO RAY HUBBARD.

THEY'LL PICK UP OURS FURTHER IN THE TRINITY AND TAKE IT TO THEIR TREATMENT PLANTS.

SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE. WE WILL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU ALL PROBABLY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR JUST TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT.

BUT IT HAS BEEN PART OF OUR RECOMMENDED STRATEGY SINCE 2014.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT EFFICIENCY AND SOME EFFECTIVENESS, AND THEY'VE GOT INFRASTRUCTURE TO PICK UP THAT WATER.

AND THEN WE CAN PICK UP WATER AND TAKE IT DIRECTLY TO OUR PLANT.

THE OTHER ONE ON SLIDE SIDE 20. MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE INTEGRATED PIPELINE.

WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT IS A REGIONAL MODEL THAT A LOT OF THE STATE LOOKS TOWARDS.

SO THE CITY OF DALLAS AND TARRANT REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT PARTNERED AND ACTUALLY DEVELOPED AN ENTIRE PROJECT AND A PROGRAM BECAUSE IT WAS MORE COST EFFECTIVE, WE COULD BOTH PAY FOR TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS IN THE SAME PROJECT AREA AND THE SAME ALIGNMENT.

OR WE COULD JOIN FORCES AND BRING THAT THROUGH.

SO THIS WILL THIS WILL CONTINUE TO GO ON. THIS STRATEGY HAS TO BE IN PLACE AND THE WATER NEEDS TO BE DELIVERED TO DALLAS BY 2040.

SO THE FIRST PORTIONS HAVE BEEN CONNECTED TO THE TARRANT SYSTEM.

THE NEXT PORTION IS ABOUT 400 MILLION. AND IT WILL CONNECT THE EXISTING PIPELINE TO LAKE PALESTINE SO THAT WE CAN BRING OUR WATER IN.

AND THEN WE WILL DO ANOTHER CONTRACT TO BRING OUR WATER TO DALLAS.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A COUPLE OF ACTIONS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS WITH RESPECT TO THOSE PROJECTS.

AND AS I SAID, THAT'S GOT TO BE IN PLACE IN 2040 TO MEET THAT NEED IN 2040, AND SIDE 21 IS THE MAIN STEM BALANCING RESERVOIR.

SO THIS ONE WE WILL KICK THE FEASIBILITY STUDY OFF IN EARLY 2026 AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THIS WILL ACTUALLY GIVE US SOME STORAGE RIGHT THERE AROUND KIND OF CENTRAL AND SOUTH SIDE.

IT'S NORTHEAST ELLIS COUNTY. SO WE'VE GOT A STUDY.

WE'LL MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. AND IN OUR LONG RANGE WATER SUPPLY PLAN, JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO READ IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE TOTAL COST ON THAT 1 IN 20 $24 IS 1.7 BILLION.

SO WE'RE TALKING BIG NUMBERS TO BRING NEW WATER SUPPLY.

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SO SLIDE 22 KIND OF WRAPS UP WHAT WE WHAT WE INTEND FOR YOU ALL TO SEE OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.

WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT THESE ENHANCED WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES.

WE NEED TO FINALIZE OUR SWAP AGREEMENT WITH NORTH TEXAS AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU ALL.

WE'LL COMPLETE OUR IPL PROJECT AS AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE NEXT PROBABLY 5 TO 7 YEARS, GIVE OR TAKE.

FROM A CONTRACTING STANDPOINT, WE'LL BEGIN OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE THE ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES, NOT JUST THE RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES. SO AT THIS TIME, WE'VE GIVEN YOU THE MATERIAL.

IF YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.

OKAY. MISS BLACKMON, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

WE'RE IN BRIEFING ITEM B, BRING US HOME. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND THANKS, SARAH, FOR THIS AND YOUR TEAM.

OKAY, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS THIS, BUT YOU KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT OUR POPULATION IS GROWING AND OUR WATER SOURCES DEPLETING.

WHEN COULD WE RUN OUT OF WATER? SO THE THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE 2024 LONG RANGE WATER SUPPLY PLAN IS TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET THAT DEMAND IF WE DO NOTHING RIGHT NOW.

IF WE DO NOTHING RIGHT NOW AND WE DO NOT CONNECT IPO, WE HAVE A SHORTAGE IN 2040.

SO THAT'S THE BIG PIECE IS IPO HAS GOT TO CONNECT IN 2040.

WE'VE MADE INVESTMENTS TO KEEP THAT MOVING BECAUSE YOU DO KNOW THE LAST WAR WILL BE FOUGHT OVER WATER.

WATER IS WE DON'T HAVE WATER. THIS THIS REGION DOESN'T GROW.

SO WHICH GOES TO THE REGIONAL QUESTION, DO WE APPLY THE SAME? SO WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IS LIKE IRRIGATION WATERING.

THAT'S ONLY FOR CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS, RIGHT? SO OUR WATER CONSERVATION TIME OF DAY, TWICE WEEKLY WATERING PROGRAMS, OUR IRRIGATION AUDITS, THOSE APPLY TO OUR RETAIL CUSTOMERS. EACH ONE OF OUR CUSTOMER CITIES HAS THEIR OWN CONSERVATION PLANS AND MEASURES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO AND OUR CONSERVATION TEAM THAT IS WITH US, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR CUSTOMER CITIES TO TRY TO HELP THEM WITH ENHANCING THEIR PROGRAMS. BUT THERE IS ALSO A REGIONAL EFFORT THAT WE ALL CONTRIBUTE TO TO HELP EVERYBODY.

SO IS THERE ANY TEETH FOR VIOLATING THOSE REGIONAL EFFORTS.

SO IN OUR CONTRACTS, WE CANNOT REQUIRE A CITY TO IMPLEMENT CERTAIN STRATEGIES.

THE STATE REQUIRES EVERYBODY TO HAVE CONSERVATION PLANS IF THEY'VE GOT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLANS, BUT WE DON'T, IN THOSE ASPECTS, REGULATE ANOTHER COMMUNITY RIGHT THIS MOMENT.

SO A DROUGHT PLAN VERSUS DANGER WILL ROBINSON TO WE GOT ENOUGH WATER.

WHAT DOES THAT ALL LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, BECAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AND THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GO FOR, IS WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE THAT BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, THE CHEAPEST WATER WE HAVE IS WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

AND WE NEED TO CONSERVE WHAT WE HAVE NOW, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUILD RESERVOIRS LIKE WE'VE TRIED TO IN THE PAST.

IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT. I MEAN, JUST GETTING THAT BUY IN.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO MAYBE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY PEOPLE USE OUR WATER THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.

YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? OR MAYBE OFFLINE OR BUT BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WATER 20, 40 DOING NOTHING. WE RUN OUT, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING.

WE MAY NEED TO GO IN AND PUT SOME EXTRA, EXTRA THINGS AROUND.

ENFORCEMENT. SO I, I AGREE THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO DO THEIR PART.

WE, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT EVERYBODY'S GOT PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITIES.

CONTRACTUALLY, THERE IS NOT A MECHANISM TO REQUIRE OUR CUSTOMERS TO PUT IN SPECIFIC AND CERTAIN STRATEGIES.

RIGHT. WE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T PRESCRIBE IT. RIGHT.

THE DIFFERENCE SORT OF IN A CONSERVATION PLAN VERSUS A DROUGHT PLAN, THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN REALLY TRIGGERS INTO DEPLETION.

IN A DROUGHT PLAN, WE DO FORCE OTHERS BECAUSE THEN WE BEGIN TO CUT THE CUT THE ABILITY.

SO YOU COULD IS IT ACTING UP? SO IN THOSE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY SCENARIOS, WE ISSUE STAGE ONE DROUGHT, AND EVERY CUSTOMER GOES INTO STAGE ONE DROUGHT, SO THEY WON'T CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN THE SAME WAYS.

SO WHAT GIVES US WHAT WOULD BE THE MECHANISM TO PREVENT THAT? IS THAT OUR CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH INDIVIDUALS AT A STATE LAW, IS IT A FEDERAL LAW? IS IT A REGIONAL? SO THEY ARE CONTRACTS THAT ARE NEGOTIATED THROUGH THE END OF 2030 AND 2031.

SO AS WE MEET WITH OUR CUSTOMERS, THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PART OF OUR CONSERVATION PROGRAM, KIND OF COMING BACK INTO DWA'S UMBRELLA IS BECAUSE IT GIVES OUR TEAMS DIRECT CONTACT WITH THEIR PEERS.

AND SO WE'RE MEETING WITH THEM REGULARLY TO HELP WALK THEM THROUGH THOSE.

SO WHEN WE WE'RE ENCOURAGING BEHAVIOR RIGHT NOW OF OTHER CUSTOMERS.

SO WHEN WE NEGOTIATE WE COULD ADD SOME TEETH INTO THIS OR IT OR IT COULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT,

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YOU PAY THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT IF YOUR WATER.

I MEAN, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE HAVE TO HAVE WATER NOT ONLY FOR THE CITY BUT FOR THE REGION THAT WE'VE TAKEN THAT OBLIGATION, WHETHER AND BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE STEWARDS OF THAT COMMODITY BECAUSE IT IS IT'S A COMMODITY.

AND SO HOW DO YOU, YOU KNOW, HIT PEOPLE WITH THE POCKETBOOK OR PENALTIES.

AND WE MAY HAVE TO GET A LITTLE TOUGH. JUST SAYING OKAY.

MY NEXT QUESTION. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF WATER DISTRICTS THAT MAY NOT, IN MY OPINION, MAY NOT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.

THAT IS KIND OF STATE OF THE ART OR MODERN. HOW CAN WE WORK IN MAKING SURE THAT THE REGIONS SUPPLY, THE WATER SUPPLY DISTRICTS ARE ALL OPERATING AT THE SAME LEVEL? SO THE REGIONAL WATER PLANNING PROCESS KIND OF GETS AT SOME OF THAT.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MUDS AND SUDS AND WATER DISTRICTS AND EACH OF THEM IN DIFFERENT LEVELS AND VARYING STATES.

EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS.

SO FROM THE LARGER PROVIDER STANDPOINT, THE THE FOUR THAT PROVIDE THE THE BULK OF THE WATER TO EVERYBODY, EACH ONE OF THEM HAS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE.

A COUPLE OF THEM ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING NEW RESERVOIRS OR HAVE JUST BROUGHT NEW RESERVOIRS ONLINE. SO EVERYBODY'S KIND OF IN THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE, AND EACH ONE HAS THEIR OWN GOVERNING BOARD. THE WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD DOES HAVE LOAN AND GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE ALL UTILIZING TO UPGRADE INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE NEW WATER SUPPLY, THERE'S SPECIFIC CALL OUTS THAT THE STATE IS WORKING THROUGH RULEMAKING ON.

SO OKAY, SO THAT SO PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BECOME MORE MODERNIZED OTHER DISTRICTS.

BUT WHEN YOU THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. MY NEXT AND FINAL QUESTION WHICH I'M SURE THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT IT TOO, IS DATA CENTERS. THEY USE A LOT OF ENERGY AND A LOT OF WATER, AND THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THAT IN THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE A. AND I'M SURE MR. BAZALDUA WILL BE ASKING ABOUT IT AS WELL BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT THEY, THEY DO TAKE UP A LOT OF, OF, OF ENERGY AND I MEAN, A LOT OF RESOURCES.

AND I'M HOPING THAT SOMEWHERE ON YOUR LITTLE GAME PLAN, AS YOU'RE EITHER RENEGOTIATING OR THAT YOU NEED TO DO A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT, THAT IF YOU'RE COMING IN WITH A DATA CENTER, WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WATER IS IS IT'S GOING TO REALLY CUT INTO THAT USE IS GOING TO CUT INTO OUR CUSTOMER. I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE CUSTOMERS, IT'S GOING TO CUT INTO OUR RESIDENTS AND, AND IN PEOPLE USE. SO IT'S IT IS A TOPIC OF GREAT DISCUSSION IN THE INDUSTRY.

WE ARE ACTUALLY A WE'VE APPLIED TO THE WATER RESEARCH FOUNDATION.

YOU ALL APPROVED OUR CONTINUED ANNUAL PARTNERSHIP IN THAT RESEARCH ORGANIZATION.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THREE DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT ARE GOING AFTER PROPOSALS TO DO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH ON WHERE CAN WE FIND BEST PRACTICES? WE'VE LOOKED INTERNALLY AND HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE OTHER ENTITIES REGULATING.

IT'S GOING TO BE A BIGGER CONVERSATION THAN AS IT'S BUILDING REGULATIONS.

IT'S A LARGER, BROADER CONVERSATION THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE HAD.

I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG CONCERN.

THEY DO USE A LOT OF WATER. LOTS OF BENEFITS TO THEM.

BUT AND I THINK THE RESOURCE, THE RESOURCE HEAVY, IT IS VERY RESOURCE HEAVY.

AND I THINK BECAUSE OF WHAT OUR PLACE IS IN THE REGION, YOU SHOULD BE SOMEBODY FROM GW NEEDS TO BE SITTING THERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT IS TAKING YOU KNOW, THE RESOURCE AWAY.

AND AND I GET IT. WE WE NEED OUR PHONES, RIGHT? WE NEED OUR NETFLIX. IT STREAMS ALL FROM A DATA PLACE.

BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED TO DRINK, YOU KNOW, YOU DRINK WATER TO SURVIVE.

SO THAT'S A BALANCING ACT. SO I'M HOPING THAT Y'ALL WILL.

DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, EITHER ELBOW YOUR WAY TO THE TABLE OR WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AT THE TABLE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FOCUSING ON SLIDE 11, THE LAST BULLET ABOUT THE 2080 SYSTEM.

RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES. I'D LIKE FURTHER EXPLANATION OF THOSE.

I UNDERSTAND ADDITIONAL CONSERVATION. YOU'RE PLANNING TO EXPAND THE TIME FRAME FOR THE WATER RATIONING? THE 33% INDIRECT REUSE. WHAT IS THAT? I'M GOING TO GIVE MATT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK FOR A MINUTE AND AND BREAK THIS UP.

DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT INDIRECT FOR A MOMENT? SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. GOOD AFTERNOON. MATT PINK, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES. SO INDIRECT REUSE REFERS TO BASICALLY RETURN FLOWS OR WASTEWATER EFFLUENT THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY TREATED.

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SO IT'S SENT TO SOME A RIVER WATER BODY AND THEN SENT TO A WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

SO AND IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED ARE THAT SWAP AGREEMENT.

SO WHERE OUR RETURN FLOWS ARE BEING USED, TAKEN FROM THE TRINITY AND BEING USED FOR NORTH TEXAS AND THEY'RE WETLANDS, THEY'RE SENDING THEIR RETURN FLOWS FROM SOME OF THEIR WASTEWATER PLANTS INTO LAKE RAY HUBBARD.

SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE TO RELEASE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT OURS.

BUT IN THIS NEW SWAP AGREEMENT, WE CAN KEEP THAT AND WE CAN HAVE MORE WATER IN HUBBARD THAT WE CAN USE TO TREAT.

SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE. THE OTHER ONE IS THE MAIN STEM BALANCING RESERVOIR.

BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY PERMITTED TO TAKE OUR CENTRAL AND WASTE, CENTRAL AND SOUTHSIDE WASTEWATER EFFLUENT FLOWS THAT GO INTO THE TRINITY, WE'RE ABLE TO USE THOSE AS A TREATMENT STRATEGY.

SO WE WOULD TAKE THOSE OUT OF THE TRINITY INTO A OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIR, THEN PUMP THAT UP TO SOMEWHERE WHERE WE CAN USE IT IN OUR TREAT IT AND USE IT IN OUR SYSTEM. SO THAT'S WHAT AN EXAMPLE OF INDIRECT REUSE REFERS TO.

SO WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR SEWAGE EFFLUENT. DO WE CURRENTLY RECYCLE AS DRINKABLE WATER? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I DO KNOW IN THE PIE CHART THAT AS OF 2080, IN TERMS OF ALL OF OUR OPTIONS, INDIRECT REUSE WILL ENCOMPASS 16% OF OUR PORTFOLIO IN THE FUTURE.

I'D HAVE TO GET YOU THE NUMBER OF THE THE CURRENT NUMBER, THOUGH I'M NOT QUITE SURE OF THAT.

SO THE PERCENTAGES LISTED ON SLIDE 11 INDICATE THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE WATER CONTRIBUTION FROM THOSE SOURCES, OR AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL WATER SUPPLY.

SO SO THE BULLETED NUMBERS, THE PERCENTAGES THERE REFLECT HOW MUCH OF THE ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES WE'RE BRINGING ONLINE.

SO OF THE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES 13% OF THAT WILL BE ADDITIONAL CONSERVATION 33% INDIRECT REUSE.

THE PIE CHART ON THE RIGHT REFLECTS WHAT OUR PORTFOLIO PERCENTAGES WILL BE IN 2080.

OH OKAY. SO MOVING ON. 23% CONNECTION TO EXISTING WATER SUPPLIES.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT EXAMPLE IS IPL, WHICH SARAH REFERRED TO, WHICH IS LAKE PALESTINE WATER.

SO IN 2028, TARRANT REGIONAL WILL FINISH THE IPL CONNECTION TO A DROP OFF POINT, WHICH WE WILL THEN TAKE UP AND COME.

IT'LL COME INTO JOE POOL LAKE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO TREAT IT FROM THERE INTO OUR SYSTEM.

SO BRING IT INTO OUR SYSTEM. SO THAT'S AN EXISTING RESERVOIR.

LAKE PALESTINE WE HAVE WATER RIGHTS IN, BUT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ACCESS TO OUR SYSTEM YET.

OKAY. SO IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, DO WE TAKE WATER FROM WHITE ROCK LAKE? YEAH. NO, SIR. THAT IS NOT ONE OF OUR WATER SUPPLIES.

HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE WATER RIGHTS. OKAY, SIMILARLY TO BACHMAN, ONCE WE DREDGE IT, THAT WILL GREATLY INCREASE THE CAPACITY TO STORE WATER THERE. IS THAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAP THAT AS A WATER SOURCE? SO THE THE DREDGING OF WHITE ROCK IS REALLY ABOUT A RECREATIONAL DRUG, NOT ABOUT STORAGE NECESSARILY.

BUT WHITE ROCK AT THIS POINT IS NOT A LONG RANGE WATER SUPPLY STRATEGY IN ANY CAPACITY.

WHY IS THAT? I WOULD HAVE TO GET YOU THE THE DECISION MAKING FROM PRIOR, BUT IT WAS ELIMINATED POST THE 1950S ERA AS A DRINKING WATER SUPPLY. IS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH RECREATIONAL USE? AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, DON'T SPECULATE. I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.

OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A CLOSE SOURCE OF WATER, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE IN OUR ARSENAL OF WATER SOURCES.

OKAY THEN. NEW SURFACE WATER, 25%. WHAT IS THAT CONSIST OF? SO THAT WOULD BE A NEW RESERVOIR, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO WE'RE NOT PLANNING IN THIS PLAN RECOMMENDED BRINGING IN NEW SURFACE WATER, NEW RESERVOIRS UNTIL THE 2070 2080 TIME FRAME.

AS SARAH MENTIONED, THOSE TAKE MANY, MANY YEARS TO PERMIT AND ENGINEER SO THAT THOSE WOULD BE OUR OFF CHANNEL RESERVOIR OR LAKE COLUMBIA POTENTIAL OPTION.

IN OUR SABINE CONJUNCTIVE USE, THOSE ARE PRETTY FAR OUT IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF THE PLANS RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ARE BEING PLANNED NOW. I MEAN, THEY'RE REAL PROJECTS.

SO IN TERMS OF THOSE, THE ONLY THING WE'VE STARTED IS SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE RIVER AUTHORITIES THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.

WE HAVE AS PART OF THIS NOT NECESSARILY PRESENTED HERE.

WE HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT WAS PART OF THE CONSULTANT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO LAY OUT IN TERMS OF IF WE NEED TO DELIVER SOMETHING BY 2050, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THE MAIN STEM BALANCING RESERVOIR, WE'RE NEEDING TO DO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WITHIN THE NEXT 4 OR 5 YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON. AND THEN THE NEXT STEP WILL BE PERMITTING AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND THEN DETAILED ENGINEERING CONSTRUCTION.

SO WE HAVE ALL THAT LAID OUT KIND OF IMPLEMENTATION PLAN FOR EACH OF THE STRATEGIES.

OKAY. AND THEN FINALLY GROUNDWATER. DO WE UTILIZE THAT AS A SOURCE NOW? NO, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT. SO THIS WOULD BE DEPENDENT UPON DRILLING WELLS TO TAP THE GROUNDWATER.

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WHAT WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO HERE? CORRECT. THAT WOULD BE NEW WELLS.

AND DO WE HAVE THE AQUIFERS TO SUPPORT THAT? THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY THE WILCOX IS AN EAST TEXAS AND IT ALIGNS WITH ONE OF OUR OTHER STRATEGIES. I BELIEVE IT'S THE CONJUNCTIVE USE STRATEGY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY GROUNDWATER UNDER DALLAS.

WELL, LET ME ANSWER THAT. THAT'S WE DO, BUT I THINK WE HAVE THE PERMITTING STUFF.

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE IS GROUNDWATER IN DALLAS AND UNDER DALLAS.

HOWEVER, AS PART OF THE LONG RANGE PLANNING. THIS THE CARRIZO IS UP THERE WITH THE SABINE.

SABINE, CAN I GET THE WORDING OUT TODAY? SORRY.

AND SO AS WE APPROVED THESE, THOSE ARE WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT SOMETHING DOESN'T COME UP THAT WE COME IN IN THE FUTURE TO SAY A PARTNER HAS FOUND A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.

WE WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT. IT'S A FEASIBLE OPTION.

WE WANT TO STUDY IT MORE. BUT AT THIS POINT WE'LL IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGIES UNDER THE RECOMMENDED AND ALTERNATIVE STRATEGIES.

WELL, IT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR DRILLING FOR GROUNDWATER UNDER DALLAS THAN IT WOULD BE EAST TEXAS AND TRANSPORTING IT HERE.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING, OR ARE YOU WEDDED TO THIS IDEA OF EAST TEXAS AS A SOURCE? YEAH. ONE THING THAT WAS LOOKED AT WAS YOU KNOW, IN PRELIMINARY FASHION WAS AQUIFER STORAGE.

AND THIS AREA, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS WE NEED TO PURSUE OTHER AREAS BECAUSE THIS AREA OF TEXAS, WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY DOES NOT PRODUCE ENOUGH TO MAKE IT COST BENEFICIAL OR FEASIBLE FOR US.

SO THAT'S IT'S KIND OF A PRODUCTION PROBLEM FOR THIS AREA PRODUCTION IN TERMS OF PRODUCING HOW MUCH THE WELL COULD PRODUCE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, COST BENEFIT VERSUS OTHER OPTIONS, OTHER PLACES THE WELLS COULD PRODUCE MORE BECAUSE OF THE AQUIFER SITUATION NECESSARILY HERE. HAVE YOU DONE TEST WELLS IN DALLAS TO DETERMINE THAT? NO, SIR. NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. SO IS THAT JUST SPECULATION OR WHAT'S THAT BASED ON? THAT'S BASED ON OUR CONSULTANTS RECOMMENDATION.

AND WHO ARE THE CONSULTANTS AND WHAT'S THEIR EXPERTISE? HDR CONSULTANTS. THEY'VE BEEN OUR WATER SUPPLY CONSULTANTS.

I BELIEVE THEY DID THE 2014 LONG RANGE SUPPLY PLAN AS WELL AS THIS UPDATE.

AND SO THEY DID RECOMMEND THAT WE DO SOME ADDITIONAL FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS ON THE THINGS YOU'RE MENTIONING IN TERMS OF AQUIFER STORAGE.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLAN THAT WILL BE WORKING FOR OKAY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. BAZALDUA. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I HAVE SOME, I GUESS, IGNORANT QUESTIONS.

JUST SO I CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND THE. OBLIGATIONS WE HAVE AS A CITY.

ARE ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES WHO ARE CLIENTS OF OUR WATER? ARE WE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT TO THEM? SO AT THIS POINT, IN A VERY SIMPLISTIC MANNER, WE'VE BEEN ISSUED WATER RIGHTS, AND THE STATE HAS DEEMED US TO BE THE PROVIDER OF THESE COMMUNITIES SIMILARLY TO NORTH TEXAS OR TO TARRANT REGIONAL OR TO UPPER TRINITY SABINE RIVER, EVERYBODY'S KIND OF GOT AN AUTHORITY.

SO AT THIS POINT, ABSENT OF US SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO POTENTIALLY GO DOWN AN ENTIRE LEGAL OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT DO YOU SELL THE ASSETS, DO WE GIVE UP OUR RIGHTS? AND THEN WE HAVE TO BUY WATER FROM SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO PART OF THOSE AGREEMENTS GOING BACK TO THE 30S AND 40S WERE THAT WE WOULD BE THE PROVIDER FOR THIS, THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF SERVICE. OKAY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT BENEFIT OUR CITY HAS, OR THE TAXPAYERS OF OUR CITY GET FROM ACTING AS THE AUTHORITY? SO OUR RETAIL CUSTOMERS DO NOT PAY FOR ANY OF THE WHOLESALE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THERE'S TWO SEPARATE RATE MODELS, TWO SEPARATE RATE STRUCTURES.

THE WHOLESALE MODELS ARE RUN THROUGH AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MODEL.

THEIR RATES ARE ON A COST RECOVERY BASIS. THEY PAY FOR WHAT THEY UTILIZE AND WHAT IT COSTS US TO PROVIDE.

THOSE, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, LONG TERM IMPLEMENTATION AND DAILY O&M.

OUR RETAIL CUSTOMERS ONLY PAY FOR THE WATER THAT WE USE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT IN A VERY SIMPLISTIC TREATMENT, YES.

INCLUDING TREATMENT. SO ALL THREE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND ONE IS IN SUNNYVALE, ONE IS HERE IN DALLAS AND ONE IS IN CARROLLTON.

KIND OF BASED ON TAKING POINTS. BUT THOSE CUSTOMERS ARE BROKEN INTO SEPARATE.

SO THERE'S A TIER. WE DO A MODEL AND WE MEET WITH ALL THOSE CITIES ANNUALLY TO GO OVER THAT.

THOSE CITIES ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE US TO COURT SHOULD THEY NOT BELIEVE IN OUR MODEL.

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THEY DID DO THAT IN THE 70S. AND SOME OF OUR STRUCTURES HAVE VERY CLEAR DELINEATION, AND LINES ARE SEPARATED SPECIFICALLY AS A RESULT OF THOSE SETTLEMENT ISSUES.

RIGHT. IF WE DID NOT PROVIDE WATER AS A WATER PROVIDER, WE WOULD THEN BE BEHOLDEN TO A WATER PROVIDER TO BUY WATER FROM.

AND SO WE WOULD BE IN THE PHILIP SCENARIO. SO INSTEAD OF PLANNING AND TAKING CARE OF OURSELVES AND OTHERS, WE WOULD BE IN A BOAT WHERE SOMEBODY ELSE TOOK CARE OF US AND PLANNED FOR US.

I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT. WITH US CURRENTLY BEING THE PROVIDER, WHAT OBLIGATES US TO SPECIFIC MUNICIPALITIES OR THESE ARE JURISDICTIONS AS THEIR PROVIDER.

AND WHAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM JUST PROVIDING OUR OWN WATER? SO WE WE MEET WITH A NUMBER OF CITIES ON A REGULAR BASIS THAT COME IN ASKING IF WE WILL TAKE THEM ON AS CLIENTS.

WE SEND THEM RIGHT BACK TO THEIR SERVICE PROVIDER.

SO THE REGION IS DIVIDED INTO SERVICE PROVIDER AREAS, RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE OUR SERVICE AREA THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY OBLIGATED TO WE WILL MEET WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES AND SEE HOW WE MIGHT CAN HELP THEM, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE NORTH TEXAS REGION TO BE WITHOUT.

HOWEVER, WE DO SEND THEM BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL PROVIDER AS AS DO OURS.

RIGHT? AT THIS POINT, THERE IS NO REAL COST TO THE RETAIL, WHICH IS OUR CITY RESIDENT CUSTOMERS FOR ANY SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE OUTSIDE OF IT.

THERE IS SOME SOMETHING TO BE SAID THAT THEY DO GET A BENEFIT FROM IT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE CONNECTED RESERVOIRS, WE HAVE THE WATER RIGHTS, AND WE'RE KIND OF AS I SAID, CONTROLLING OUR OWN ABILITY TO PROVIDE FOR OURSELVES AND TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. IF MAYBE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE CAN EXPAND ON THAT. YEAH. IT'S THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR YOUR QUESTION.

RELATED TO OUR OBLIGATIONS TO PROVIDE SERVICE.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE HAD THIS POSITION FOR A LONG TIME WHERE WE'VE HAD BEEN A REGIONAL PROVIDER.

SO THIS WOULD BE KIND OF A CHANGE IN, IN DIRECTION.

HOWEVER, I THINK THAT THAT AS SARAH HAS, HAS HAS PRESENTED THERE THERE ARE BENEFITS TO US HAVING THIS POSITION AND WE'VE HAD THIS LEADERSHIP POSITION IN THE, IN THE REGION FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT AND LOOK AT, BUT OUR CURRENT LONG RANGE PLAN YOU KNOW, REALLY PRESENTS THAT ROLE OF BEING THAT REGIONAL PROVIDER.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT CONTEXT. AND I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M TRYING TO GET AT WHAT I'M GETTING AT, BECAUSE WE'VE CONTINUED TO BE BEARING THE BURDEN AS THE BIG CITY IN THE REGION.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE EXPERIENCING OTHER REGIONAL RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE, AS IN DART, WHERE I DON'T BELIEVE US PLAYING THAT ROLE. AS MATTERS MUCH TO THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

SO WITH WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO COMPROMISE OR WHAT WE ARE COMPROMISING IN ORDER TO REMAIN THAT LEADERSHIP ROLE TO ME, IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE? AND HOW ARE WE LEVERAGING THIS LEADERSHIP ROLE TO GIVE AND ARTICULATE TO THE THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM BENEFIT? WHAT IS OUR PARAMETERS? WHAT IS OUR FLEXIBILITY WHEN 2030, 20, 31 COMES UP AND WE'RE RENEWING THESE CONTRACTS ON HOW WE CAN RENEGOTIATE THESE TERMS? DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT VARIABLE RATES DEPENDING ON CERTAIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? VENTURES, FOR INSTANCE, WITH DATA CENTERS? I KNOW MAYOR TALKS OFTEN ABOUT US HAVING TO TAKE A STANCE AS A COMPETITOR IN THE REGION.

WE WE CAN BE FRIENDLY IN THE REGION, OF COURSE, BUT WE ALSO ARE COMPETING WITH EACH OF THESE MUNICIPALITIES.

AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO COMPETE WITH US AND ATTRACT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN DATA CENTERS AND REQUIRE AN INFLUX OF WATER THAT WE'RE PROVIDING FROM THEM. WHAT DO WE GET FROM THAT? OTHER THAN BEING SCREWED OUT OF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEAL WITH THIS DATA CENTER IN OUR CITY LIMITS I AM LOOKING FOR. HOW CAN WE.

BE PRUDENT AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE AND AND GETTING AHEAD OF SOME OF THESE INSTEAD OF BEING REACTIONARY WHEN IT COMES TO DROUGHT

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THE OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE IN DROUGHTS, HOW DO WE LEVERAGE THIS LEADERSHIP ROLE IN A WAY THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE TO HAVE A PREMIUM PRICE PAID FOR IF OUR WATER IS BEING UTILIZED FOR IN WAYS THAT ARE TAKING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS AWAY FROM OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBER, LET ME LET ME RESPOND TO THAT.

I REALLY THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS SORT OF OUR LONG RANGE CHANGE WATER SUPPLY PLANNING.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PERHAPS RATE STRATEGIES THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRESERVATION OF WATER THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING THE PRICE STRUCTURE, I BELIEVE, IS, IS CRITICAL IN HOW WE ARE ABLE TO REGULATE THAT.

AND SO AND I'M BRINGING UP HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE OF HOW THERE COULD BE AN INFLUX OF NEED THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY IMPACT THE PLAN THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING HERE TODAY.

SO I'M WONDERING WHAT WE'RE DOING TO COUNTER THAT OPPORTUNITY.

YOU HAVE MORE. YOU HAVE MORE ROUNDS THAT YOU MIGHT NEED TO USE THEM. BUT BECAUSE INTERESTING CONVERSATION.

BUT I WANT TO GO TO MR. ROTH FOR FIVE MINUTES AND I'LL COME BACK TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS IS A VERY I MEAN, IT'S INTERESTING TO ME TO SEE WHAT A BIG BUSINESSES IS AND WHAT A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE AND IN DEMAND. THERE IS HERE. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON YOU GOT THE 2021 POPULATION AT 7.7, LET'S SAY 8 MILLION, BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE PROJECTING THAT IT'S GOING TO DOUBLE BY 2080.

I MEAN, THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING IS THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE DOUBLING OUR POPULATION.

PROBABLY A LOT SOONER CLOSER TO 2050. AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SORT OF BEEN FACTORED INTO YOUR, YOUR YOUR NEEDS, PROJECTED NEEDS. I NOTICED THAT ONE OF THE SLIDES SAID THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT A DEFICIT IN 2040 OR WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT BUT I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE YOUR THE PROJECTION NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED IF THERE IS A NEED.

SO LET ME LET ME MAKE SURE WE'RE LET ME CLARIFY ONE THING.

SO WE WON'T HAVE A DEFICIT IN 2040, ASSUMING THAT WE CONTINUE ON THE PATH AND WE IMPLEMENT OUR STRATEGIES.

SO THE QUESTION WAS IF YOU DO NOTHING, WHEN DOES THE DEFICIT APPEAR? SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S REAL CLEAR. FOR THE RECORD, THERE WON'T BE A DEFICIT IN 2040. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS, THAT'S ACTUALLY A DETAILED ANALYSIS THAT WAS UNDERTAKEN THROUGH THIS. SO IT WAS A UTILIZATION OF BOTH COG DATA, CITY ZONING DATA, DATA THAT ANY OF OUR CUSTOMER CITIES PROVIDED TO US ON WHERE THEY SAW THEIR ZONING, WHAT THEY WERE ANTICIPATING, THE STATE DEMOGRAPHER'S DATA, AND THE US CENSUS BUREAU.

SO THEY USE ALL OF THOSE DATAS TO LOOK AT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND SO EACH DECADE WE SHOW WHAT THE POPULATION PROJECTION IS FOR DALLAS WATER UTILITIES, OUR CUSTOMER BASE, INCLUDING OUR RETAIL AND WHOLESALE, DOUBLES TO JUST A LITTLE OVER 4 MILLION BY 2080.

BUT THERE IS SORT OF THIS BREAK POINT IN ABOUT 2050 WHERE OUR CUSTOMER CITIES HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE POPULATION THAN WE DO, AND YOU KIND OF SEE A BIGGER SPIKE, AND THEN IT'S SORT OF SLOW GROWTH.

SO I CAN GET YOU A COPY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY.

WE'LL GET YOU A COPY. SO YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF POPULATION ANALYSIS AND THEN WHERE IT COMES BY DECADE ON DECADE.

OKAY. I MEAN, AND AGAIN, MY, MY INFORMATION IS ALL ANECDOTAL.

IT'S BASICALLY JUST WHAT I'VE HEARD. BUT BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE WARM BODIES SPECIFICALLY IN THE URBAN AREAS.

AND THAT INCLUDES US. THIS THE REGION C DOES NOT INCLUDE FORT WORTH DOESN'T INCLUDE TARRANT COUNTY DOES IT.

IT INCLUDES REGION B IS TARRANT COUNTY. IS THAT WHAT IT IS? I THINK THAT'S ON SIX. SO NO SIR. IN IN REGION C YOU'VE GOT COLLIN COOK, DALLAS, DENTON, ELLIS, FANNIN, FREESTONE, GRAYSON HENDERSON, THE PORTION THAT'S IN THE TRINITY BASIN.

HENDERSON SPLITS IN BETWEEN TWO REGIONS. JACK KAUFMAN, NAVARRO, PARKER, ROCKWALL, TARRANT AND WISE.

SO TARRANT'S IN THERE. FORT WORTH IS OUT. THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN SYSTEM.

WELL, THEY HAVE TARRANT REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT SUPPLIES THAT PORTION OF OUR SERVICE AREA.

SO IF YOU LOOK ON SLIDE SEVEN IT SLIDE SEVENS UP.

SO THAT'S REGION C. AND THEN IF YOU KIND OF TAKE THAT THERE'S ABOUT FOUR MAJOR WATER PROVIDERS THAT REPRESENT THE NORTH TEXAS REGION.

OKAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WAS CONFUSED THAT THAT THAT THAT DRAWING AND THE OTHER ONE SORT OF REFLECTED TWO DIFFERENT WATER REGIONS.

OKAY. IS THERE IS WHAT IS THE IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST FOR INFORMATION. IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND OUR WATER RIGHTS.

CAN WE CAN WE TAKE OVER BRAZOS G I'M JUST BEING BEING, YOU KNOW, SORT OF CRAZY ABOUT IT.

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BUT THERE'S WHERE LAKE WHITNEY IS WHERE SOME OF THE CAN WE EXPAND OUR, OUR OPPORTUNITY TO TO TAKE OVER WATER RIGHTS BY GOING INTO DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND EXPANDING OUR, OUR REGION, SO TO SPEAK? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE CURRENTLY HAVE WATER RIGHTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTY.

WE CAN ALSO FROM A WATER SUPPLY. THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN CONTRACT AND PURCHASE WATER AND NOT HAVE A WATER, RIGHT? WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE SCENARIOS. IT KIND OF AS AN OPPORTUNISTIC FIELD.

RIGHT. SO IF IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, IT'S WORTH EXPLORING.

AND THEN WE WOULD BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL. OKAY.

BUT THAT THERE IS IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE TABLE.

YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT TAKING OVER LAKE WHITNEY OR SOME OTHER.

I'M NOT LAKE. NO, SIR. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO TAKE ANOTHER WATER DISTRICT OVER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE IN THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S KIAMICHI WATER.

SO AND SOME OF THE STRATEGIES, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME OUT OF STATE OPTIONS SPRINGING OUT OF STATE WATER.

THERE'S THERE'S FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE PLAN. AND THEN THE OTHER RELATED QUESTION IS, IS THERE IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE LAKES THAT ARE HERE, OR IS IT ARE THEY ALREADY GEOGRAPHICALLY SORT OF LANDLOCKED, OR IS THERE A WAYS TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE LAKES BIGGER THAT ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE? SO MOST OF THE LAKES HAVE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THEM.

THE STATE DID. I BELIEVE IT WAS 1968, RIGHT? IN 1968, THE STATE DESIGNATED RESERVOIR SITES ACROSS THE STATE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY ONLY SO MANY SUITABLE SITES.

TOPOGRAPHY PLAYS INTO IT. SO THOSE WERE DESIGNATED BY THE STATE MANY, MANY DECADES AGO AS POTENTIAL RESERVOIR SITES ARE SHOWN ON MAPS AND ALL, ALL SORTS OF THINGS. SO YOU TYPICALLY WON'T SEE US EXPAND AN EXISTING LAKE, BUT SEDIMENT IS SEDIMENT IS A CHALLENGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THAT'S ALSO IN OUR PLANNING IS WHAT SEDIMENT RATES LOOK LIKE AND EVAPORATION LOST.

GREAT. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. MR. BAZALDUA, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

YEAH. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO IN ADDITION TO THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND IN, IN PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE TO EXPLORE AS A CITY LEGALLY.

THAT CAN HELP OVERALL, LEVERAGING THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING A LEADER IN THE WATER DISTRIBUTION. AND AND BY AND LARGE, I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING, I THINK THAT THERE'S MORE FLEXIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO, LIKE, FULL COST RECOVERY FOR FEES THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO.

I UNDERSTAND THIS ISN'T A TAXATION. YOU ALL ARE AN ENTERPRISE ACCOUNT, WHICH MEANS IN THEORY, WE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE PROFIT. NO, SIR, I DON'T KNOW THAT PROFIT IS THE RIGHT WORD.

WE CAN COST RECOVER FOR SERVICES PROVIDED AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY.

REGARDLESS OF ENTERPRISE OR NOT. RIGHT. SO WE CAN ONLY COST RECOVER OUR EXPENSES OR PROJECTED EXPENSES AND CHARGE FOR THOSE JUST TO KIND OF MAKE I WANT TO CLOSE ONE LOOP. KIND OF.

WE DO HAVE INTERRUPTIBLE RATES FOR CUSTOMERS.

SO IF WE HAVE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE TRYING TO EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT YOU KNOW THEY ARE, THAT THEY NEED PER YEAR. WE HAVE DIFFERENT RATES THAT WE CHARGE BASED ON THOSE SCENARIOS.

SO IF IT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY ISSUE AND THEY'RE AHEAD OF SOMETHING, THEY DO THAT, BUT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT PROVIDING STORAGE TANKS FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS.

WE'RE NOT BUILDING THEIR PIPE SYSTEM. WE GET IT TO A VAULT.

AND AT THAT POINT THEY PICK IT UP AND TAKE IT FROM THERE. YES.

OKAY, THEN WITH THE ORDINANCES AND ENFORCEMENT OF CONSERVATION WE SAID THAT THERE WASN'T THE OUR ABILITY TO MANDATE OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO HAVE THINGS PASSED. IS THERE NOT A LEGAL AVENUE FOR US TO HAVE REQUIREMENTS AND CONTINGENCIES IN THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THESE MUNICIPALITIES? THE CURRENT NEGOTIATED CONTRACTS DO NOT INCLUDE THOSE PROVISIONS.

I'M ASSUMING OUR CAPABILITY. SO ASSUMING THERE'S NO STATE LAW CHANGE WHEN IT COMES TIME TO NEGOTIATE NEW CONTRACTS, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SAID TO OUR OUR CUSTOMERS TO ANTICIPATE THOSE THINGS IN FUTURE CONTRACTS.

BUT RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ALL NEGOTIATED THROUGH THAT 2030 AND 2031 TIME FRAME, AND THEY'RE NEGOTIATED TYPICALLY IN TEN AND 15 YEAR WINDOWS.

OKAY. I'D LIKE TO I JUST I THINK A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS I WAS HOPING THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CHIME IN.

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AND SO IF I COULD PLEASE GET SOME SORT OF NOT RIGHT NOW ON THE MIC, BUT IF WE COULD GET SOME FOLLOW UP FROM THE ATTORNEYS THAT GIVE US MORE OF A LEGAL OUTLINE OF WHAT TO EXPECT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, INSTEAD OF JUST THE LOGISTICS FROM THE DEPARTMENT ITSELF.

WE CAN DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

CHAIRMAN RIDLEY RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I NOTICED ON THE PLAN FOR RECOMMENDED STRATEGIES TO MEET THE 2080 DEMAND THAT THERE IS NO MENTION OF IMPROVED INTEGRITY OF THE DELIVERY SYSTEM TO AVOID LEAKS.

HOW MUCH WATER DO WE LOSE EACH YEAR TO LEAKS? AND CAN WE DO BETTER AT STEMMING THOSE LOSSES? YES, SIR. THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. WE PERFORM AN ANNUAL WATER LOSS AUDIT.

AS I MENTIONED, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THE MOST RECENT WATER LOSS AUDIT THAT WE COMPLETED IN MAY HAS ABOUT 10 BILLION GALLONS.

THAT WAS LOST LAST YEAR. AS PART OF OUR PLANNING STRATEGY WE ARE DEVELOPING A LOSS MITIGATION PLAN SO THAT WILL INCREASE OUR LEAK DETECTION PROGRAMS. IT WILL INCREASE OUR EFFICIENCIES IN TERMS OF REPAIRING THOSE PIECES.

IT WILL ALSO LOOK AT OUR METERED INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING INFRASTRUCTURE OUT OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 7 YEARS TO GO TO AUTOMATED METERS, WHICH WILL ALSO PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE. AND WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING AT MORE DETAILED ACCOUNTING OF THAT WATER LOSS.

SO AS WE PULL THOSE PROGRAMS FORWARD, WE'LL USE OPERATIONAL STRATEGIES.

WE ALSO DO ABOUT 34 MILES OF WATER PIPELINE REPLACEMENT ANNUALLY, AND TO UPGRADE THE SYSTEMS AND TO GET THOSE SYSTEMS THAT ARE OLD, OUTDATED OR UNDERSIZED OR A COMBINATION OF ALL REPLACED.

SO WE'RE WORKING AT DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT LEVELS OF STRATEGIES.

WE ALSO EMPLOY A THIRD PARTY AUDITOR THAT LOOKS AT WHAT WE AUDIT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING OR OR OFF ON OUR NUMBERS.

SO IS THAT SOURCE OF POTENTIAL WATER SAVINGS NOT LISTED ON SLIDE 11 BECAUSE IT'S DE MINIMIS.

I NEVER WANT TO CALL WATER RESOURCES DE MINIMIS IN THE OVERALL STRATEGY OF WATER SUPPLY PLANNING.

IT WON'T YIELD YOU THE TYPE OF RESULTS TO ELIMINATE A STRATEGY THAT'S ON THE TABLE, BUT IT WILL HELP US PERHAPS EXTEND THE LIFE.

YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT OUR EARLY CONSERVATION PROGRAMS HAVE RESULTED IN THE EXTENDED LIFE OF ABOUT 2.7 YEARS IN WATER SUPPLY.

SO OVER TIME, AS WE GET IN A MORE IN A MORE EFFICIENT MANNER WITH THOSE, I THINK YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTENSION, BUT NOT IN A LARGE SCALE. AND WHAT LEAK DETECTION SYSTEMS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? WE USE ABOUT 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT TYPES OF METHODS.

SO THERE IS A SONAR. THERE IS A SOUNDING TECHNIQUE.

I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE YOU OUT IN THE FIELD. YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT IN-HOUSE AND OUTSOURCED CONTRACTS THAT WE USE FOR THOSE WATER LOSS AND LEAK DETECTION PROGRAMS. SO IT'S NOT JUST DEPENDENT UPON CITIZENS CALLING IN AND SAYING, HEY, IT LOOKS LIKE A WATER LEAK.

OUR RESIDENTS ARE SOME OF OUR BEST EYES, BUT WE HAVE BOTH PROACTIVE AND REACTIVE.

GREAT. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR OUR.

IT'S HARD TO CALL IT PANELISTS TO FOLKS, BUT IT'S A PANEL.

I DON'T SEE ANY. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MADAM CITY MANAGER, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO TO OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS? MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES OUR BRIEFINGS FOR 2025.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, WELL, MADAM SECRETARY, I'LL THROW IT BACK OVER TO YOU.

[Open Microphone Speakers (Part 1 of 2)]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES.

WE DO HAVE A FEW OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS. REMAINING SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL AND PERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S IN PERSON.

FOR THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS ARE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

FOR THE VIRTUAL SPEAKER, YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM.

YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE STOP FOR THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

I WILL I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY YOUR NEXT, YOUR SPEAKER, JOHN PLOURDE, WILL BE VIRTUAL.

JOHN PLOURDE. HELLO. OKAY, WE CAN SEE YOU AND HEAR YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. AWESOME. GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I VISIT DALLAS OFTEN, AND I'VE ALWAYS APPRECIATED THE CITY'S ENERGY AND HOSPITALITY.

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BUT EACH VISIT, I'M TROUBLED BY THE CONTINUED USE OF HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES.

IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. HORSES ARE WORKING LONG HOURS AND LOUD, CONGESTED AND DANGEROUSLY HOT CONDITIONS.

BUT NO MODERN CITY CAN TRULY MAKE SAFE OR HUMANE.

NO MATTER THE INTENTIONS OF THE OPERATORS, THESE ANIMALS ARE NOT SUITED FOR THE URBAN TRAFFIC OR EXTREME HEAT.

I UNDERSTAND THE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED A BAN, AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU BRING THAT PROPOSAL BACK AND TAKE ACTION TO PROTECT THESE ANIMALS FROM HARM. AS SOMEONE WHO SUPPORTS DALLAS ECONOMICALLY AND CARES ABOUT ITS FUTURE, I BELIEVE ENDING THIS OUTDATED PRACTICE WOULD REFLECT THE COMPASSION, PROGRESS AND MODERN VALUES OF CITY STRIVES TO UPHOLD.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU.

DOLORES PHILIP SAYS CANCELED. BE IN RANDOLPH.

MAY. THE LORD.

OH. IT'S OKAY. YOU CAN SIT THERE. THANK YOU. WHERE IS MY CLOCK? ALL RIGHT, THAT'S NOT THREE MINUTES.

OH, YOU STARTED IT EARLIER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. TO THE MAYOR AND THE WONDERFUL COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW WHO I AM? ON THE PROGRAM. I MEAN, ON THE PRINTOUT.

THEY DID NOT PUT MY DISTRICT. I'M IN DISTRICT THREE.

AND I ALSO ASKED THEM TO PUT THREE EXCLAMATION POINTS AFTER THANK YOU LORD, AND THEY DID NOT PUT MY THREE EXCLAMATION POINT.

SO THEY'RE MODIFYING MY BEHAVIOR. THANK YOU LORD. THANK YOU LORD.

THANK YOU LORD. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU LORD. YOU ARE SO GOOD.

YOU ARE SO GOOD. YOU ARE SO GOOD. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, LORD.

GOD IS SO FAITHFUL. HE WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU NOR FORSAKE YOU.

FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.

JOY. JOY TO THE WORLD. THE LORD IS COME. LET ESSER RECEIVE HER KING. LET EVERY HEART PREPARE HIM ROOM. HELP ME OUT. AND HEAVEN AND NATURE SING, AND HEAVEN AND NATURE SING, AND HEAVEN AND HEAVEN AND NATURE.

HOW ABOUT THAT? MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYBODY. YES, PLEASE. NAVIDAD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, VICKY. MEEKS IS NOT PRESENT.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY MORE BUSINESS BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY? NO FURTHER BUSINESS, MR. MAYOR. SEEING THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME IS 345. AND THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, MEMBERS. AND THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.