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DO ROLL CALL.GOOD MORNING, DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SIMS, DISTRICT TWO, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DISTRICT THREE, VICE CHAIR.
HERBERT PRESENT, DISTRICT FOUR.
DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBEN.
APPRECIATE YOU LILIAN, AS ALWAYS.
SO TODAY IS THURSDAY, DECEMBER 4TH.
UM, AND WELCOME TO THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
UM, AS ALWAYS, THE BRIEFING IS JUST FOR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
WE'LL KEEP ALL OUR COMMENTS AND POSITIONS FOR THE HEARING THIS AFTERNOON.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND JUMP RIGHT INTO THE DOCKET.
UM, COMMISSIONERS CASE NUMBERS EIGHT, SIX, AND SEVEN.
SO THOSE THREE ARE COMING OFF OF CONSENT.
UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS, UM, ITEMS ON CONSENT THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OFF? THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE WILL BE TAKEN OFF OF CONSENT AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE 5, 6, 7, AND EIGHT AND 4, 4, 5, 6.
YEP, THERE'S THAT, THAT THERE'S THAT AGENDA.
WE'LL HEAR THEM ALL INDIVIDUALLY.
STAFF, ARE WE READY? WOULD YOU LIKE ONE BRIEFED, UM, ITEM ONE, UM, BRIEF.
OH, YES, CAN YOU PLEASE? THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER ONE IS CPR DASH 25 DASH 1516.
IT IS A APPLICATION FOR A WAIVER OF THE TWO YEAR WAITING PERIOD REQUIRED BEFORE ALLOWED TO SUBMIT A ZONING APPLICATION ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 29,000 SQUARE FEET IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE HERE IS THE PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN CITY LIMITS.
HERE'S THE AREA MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF CEDAR RIDGE.
DRIVE NORTH OF WEST RED BIRD LANE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST, THERE'S ALL AA AGRICULTURAL, UM, AND THEN SOUTHWEST, THERE'S A LITTLE R 10, UH, SUBDISTRICT.
HERE'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND HISTORY.
ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST THE 27TH OF 2000 AND 2025, THE CITY COUNCIL DENIED AN APPLICATION FOR A R 10 SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON A PROPERTY ZONE AA AGRICULTURE DISTRICT ON THE WEST LINE OF CEDAR RIDGE DRIVE NORTH OF WEST RED BIRD LANE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A WAIVER OF THE TWO YEAR WAITING PERIOD IN ORDER TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE FOR R 10 TO FROM, FOR A R 10 FROM A A A HE.
HERE'S A LITTLE MORE SUMMARY BACKGROUND, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS NO COMMENTS FROM COUNSEL DURING THE PREVIOUS DENIAL.
UM, THREE ME, THREE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SPOKE IN OPPOSITION OF THE CASE.
UM, HERE'S SOME PUBLIC CONCERNS THAT I LAID OUT HERE.
THE FIRST CONCERN WAS SIZE OF THE LOT.
THE LOT WILL HAVE TO BE 10,000 SQUARE FEET AS A MINIMUM.
AND AA THERE'S A MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES FOR THOSE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
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THE MATH, UM, STAFF COMMENTS IS THAT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE REQUEST, THERE WILL ONLY BE A MINIMUM OF TWO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS THAT WILL BE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY.UM, SO PUBLIC CONCERN NUMBER TWO, THERE IS POSSIBLE DRAINAGE RUNOFF CONCERNS RELATED TO INCREASE INCREASE OF DENSITY.
UM, STAFF COMMENTS, THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN A FLOODPLAIN AND DRAINAGE AND RUNOFF LIMITS WILL BE REVIEWED AND CONFIRMED AT WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE LIMITS PER CITY CODE BY STAFF AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING.
AND THEN CONCERN NUMBER THREE, SORRY, I GOT THESE LITTLE POPUPS ON MY SCREEN.
CONCERN NUMBER THREE, UM, CLAIMS OF A PREVIOUS EXCAVATED UNFINISHED LAKE ON THE PROPERTY LEAVING IT UNDEVELOPABLE.
APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THE UNFINISHED LAKE IS NOT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
STAFF'S NOTES THAT ANY ISSUES RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE REVIEWED AT TIME OF PERMITTING AND THE PROPERTY MUST COMPLY WITH ALL RELEVANT, RELEVANT ZONE, UH, ZONING OR ANY OTHER CODE.
UM, HERE'S THE CODE REFERENCE, UM, FOR THE TWO YEAR WADE WAIVER.
ACCORDING TO SECTION 51, A DASH 4.701 B, THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE, A NEW APPLICATION FOR THIS PROPERTY CANNOT BE FILED PRIOR TO AUGUST 27TH, 2027, UNLESS THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION APPROVES A WAIVER OF A TWO YEAR WAITING PERIOD.
THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE ALLOWS THE COMMISSIONS, COMMISSIONS TO WAIVE THE TIME LIMITATION.
IF THERE IS CHANGES, CIRCUMSTANCES SIGNIFICANT TO WARRANT A NEW HEARING AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE WAIVER OF THE TWO YEAR WAITING PERIOD.
THAT CONCLUDES THIS PRESENTATIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
I'LL LET THE COUNCIL GO FIRST, MS. BUT I'M NOT GETTING THE CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES IN THIS CASE BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST WENT THROUGH THAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT, WERE ALL, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATIONS THAT WERE PUT BEFORE US PREVIOUSLY.
AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE, STORM, STORMWATER ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED THROUGH PERMITTING.
SO, AND WE HAD THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE CREATED HERE, AND IT WAS DENIED.
SO THIS TO ME DOES NOT SEEM TO MEET THE CRITERIA.
SO WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU CONSIDERING THE CHANGE CIRCUMSTANCES TO BE? WHERE FOR ME, THE CHANGE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE DEVELOPING A LOT, I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN ACTUALLY JUDGE DRAINAGE AND RUNOFF IF THERE'S, THERE'S NO ACTUALLY REVIEW AT PERMITTING TO SAY THAT THIS DRAINAGE OR RUNOFF IS OCCURRING.
AND THEN ALSO THE UNDEVELOPED LAKE THAT WAS BROUGHT IN TO THE HEARING AS CONCERNED THAT LAKE IS NOT EVEN ON THE, THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OF THIS REQUEST.
UM, I KNOW THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THAT LAKE AND FILLING THAT IN AND COMPACTING THAT IN AND MAKING THE SITE UNDEVELOPABLE, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT LAKE.
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS TOO, STAFF TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, FOR THAT.
AND SO THAT'S STAFF'S OPINION AND SO THE COMMISSION HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, WHICH IS FINE.
MS. BOO COULD CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION APPROVED THIS CASE, DIDN'T WE? I BELIEVE SO.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS CASE? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS BESIDES MYSELF? UM, JUST QUICKLY, UM, THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO MADE THE VOTE TO DENY THIS HAS NOW VISITED THE SITE AWARE OF THE CHANGES IN, HAS CHANGED HIS OPINION? I AM AWARE WITH THAT.
I SPOKE WITH THE APPLICANT WHEN I TOOK IN THE APPLICATION, SO YES, SIR.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN ONE COME THIS WAY THAT FOR A, UH, EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, UM, AND THIS IS A CASE THAT THE COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN ME AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER WEREN'T CLEAR.
I SENT THEM, THEY JUST WEREN'T CLEAR.
UM, AND HE MADE A DECISION, BUT I THINK HE'S WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT, BEEN TO THE SITE, AND, UM, WANTS TO GET THIS DONE.
ARE WE HAVING IT BRIEFED? IT'S ON CONSENT.
UM, READING THE SEP CONDITIONS, THERE'S SOMETHING HERE THAT LIMITS THE ENROLLMENT FOR THE SCHOOL.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING WE WERE ALLOWED TO DO ANYMORE, MS. MORRISON, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M SORRY.
CAN YOU YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? YES.
UM, IN THE SEP CONDITIONS FOR THIS CASE, THERE, UM, IS LANGUAGE LIMITING THE ENROLLMENT OF THE SCHOOL.
AND I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE NO LONGER OR WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT, THAT THERE WAS A CONTROL ON ENROLLMENT THROUGH TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLANS, BUT WE WEREN'T, UM, LEGALLY ABLE TO LIMIT ENROLLMENT IN SEP CONDITIONS.
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USUALLY DON'T WANT TO LIMIT ENROLLMENT AND WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THAT UP TO THE SCHOOLS.UM, HOWEVER, YOU'RE PROBABLY THINKING OF OUR CHARTER SCHOOLS.
THE A A CHARTER SCHOOL HAS THE ENROLLMENT, UM, GOVERNED BY THE SCHOOL'S CHARTER.
SO WE DEFINITELY DO NOT LIMIT ENROLLMENT FOR, UM, CHARTER SCHOOLS.
HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT TO LIMIT ENROLLMENT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL, YOU WOULD JUST NEED A LAND USE RATIONALE FOR DOING SO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR NEED FOR BRIEFING ON THIS CASE? OH, HEARING NONE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO, OH, WE DO? YEAH.
I MIGHT ADD, ADD, MAYBE THIS WILL CLARIFY IT.
UH, YOU MAY, YOU MAY RECALL THAT NOT TOO LONG AGO WE HAVE, WE APPROVED, UH, THAT THIS, THAT COCHRANE, THAT, UM, OAK HILL ACADEMY WOULD MOVE THEIR HIGH SCHOOL CLASSES TO THE COCHRANE CHAPEL CHURCH LOCATION.
SO THAT MAY BE WHY THE SUP NOW SAYS GRADE EIGHT INSTEAD OF GRADE 12, BECAUSE, UH, GRADES NINE THROUGH 12 HAVE BEEN RELOCATED TO ANOTHER, ANOTHER, UH, CHURCH JUST DOWN THE ROAD.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER THREE.
ANYBODY WANTS TO HEAR THAT ONE? UM, I DON'T THINK COMMISSIONER WHEELER IS ON, SO MAYBE WE'LL COME BACK.
ANYBODY WANTS NUMBER FOUR BRIEFED? YES.
TAKING OFF OF CONSENT AS WELL.
I KNOW, UH, SOME OF THE STANDING MEMBERS FROM, UH, THIS, UH, BODY HAVE MET OSCAR BEFORE, BUT OSCAR A AGUILAR IS OUR SENIOR PLANNER.
UM, HE WORKED IN OTHER PARTS IN OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT RECENTLY CAME BACK TO OUR TEAM.
SO WE'RE WELCOMING HIM BACK TO THE DAAS.
UM, AND INTRODUCING HIM TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T MET HIM.
BUT, UM, HE'S ANOTHER SENIOR PLANNER OF OURS.
AND I'LL, I'LL GIVE IT AWAY IF WE WANNA BRIEF THIS ONE.
UM, ASK RA, UH, SENIOR PLANNER.
UH, MORNING, UH, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
UH, TODAY I'M PRESENTING, UH, APPLICATION Z 2 5 0 0 1 52.
SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE, UH, PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE ON A PROPERTY ZONE.
CS, UH, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH SUP NUMBER, UH, EIGHT 90, LOCATED ON THE WEST, UH, SIDE OF SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY BETWEEN YOUNGBLOOD, UH, ROAD AND LI.
UH, LYNDON, UH, JOHNSON FREEWAY IS APPROXIMATELY, UH, SEVEN ACRES IN, UH, TOTAL SIZE.
UH, HERE IS THE LOCATION, THE STAR YELLOW STAR MARKS.
THE, THE SPOT IS RIGHT IN THE OSCARS OF, UH, OF THE CITY LIMITS.
TO GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IS AROUND AS, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE RED, UH, SQUARE IS, UH, WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT.
THEN, UM, HERE IS THE LAND USE ROUND.
SO IT IS A HATCHING, UM, JURISDICTION ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH, UH, GOING BACK, UH, YOU SEE THAT THERE'S, UH, A TOW TRUCK TYPE OF A YOUNG YARD, UH, FACILITY.
THERE'S INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING TO THE NORTH, AND, UH, ALSO INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH TO THE NORTH, UH, EAST.
THEN THERE'S, UH, AGRICULTURAL FACILITIES.
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FAMILY LOTS.THEY'RE NOT, UH, THEY'RE NOT THERE YET, UM, AS IS SHOWN ON THE AERIAL.
AND THEN DOWN TO THE SOUTH IS ALSO HODGKIN'S, UH, JURISDICTION, WHICH IT HAS A SIMILAR, SIMILAR LAND USES, AS YOU WILL SEE FROM THE PHOTOS.
AND, UH, THERE'S ALSO, UH, A STATE, UH, PRISON, UH, IN THE VICINITY.
HERE IS, UH, THE SIGNS THAT, UH, WERE, UH, POSTED.
SO I'M, UH, LOOKING, UH, NORTH, UH, FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, I'M NOW SITTING AT THE PROPERTY LOOKING AT, UH, AT THE BUSINESS THAT I WAS TELLING YOU IT'S A TOW TRUCK, UH, YOUNG TYPE OF BUSINESS.
AND THEN I'M JUST DOING A THREE, UH, 60, JUST GOING AROUND HERE IS THE, THE SITE IS, UH, GATED.
UH, HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT AGAIN.
THAT'S, UH, ACROSS THE STREET.
AND THEN, UH, I WENT ACROSS THE EXPRESSWAY, UH, TO THE AREA.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S SIMILAR, UH, USES.
THERE'S SOME, UH, UH, TRUCK, UH, PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
THEN, UH, THIS IS, UH, UP NORTH.
THERE'S SOME, UH, RAVINE TYPE OF, UH, AREA.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S DUE TO THE PROXIMITY TO THE RIVER, THE TRINITY RIVER THAT IS LOCATED ON THE EAST, UH, SIDE OF THE ROAD.
THE ENTIRE AREA IS PROPOSED AS A A, A PARKING.
YOU DON'T SEE THE PARKING STALLS BECAUSE, UH, IT'S NOT REQUIRED NOT TO BE, UH, PROVIDED ACCORDING TO MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND THEN, UH, HERE IS THE PROPOSED, UH, UH, CONDITIONS.
SO THE ONLY, UH, USE AUTHORIZED BY THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT, COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING.
THE SITE PLAN, UH, IS WHAT YOU SAW, WHICH IS, UH, USED AND DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY MUST COMPLY WITH THE ATTACHED SITE PLAN, THE TIME LIMIT.
SO WE'RE, UH, UH, STAFF IS PROPOSING A 10 YEAR, UH, AFTER PASSAGE OF, UH, THIS ORDINANCE.
AND THEN, UH, UH, TO COME BACK.
THERE'S, UH, THREE PRESERVATION, UH, UH, FILL, UH, IRWIN, UH, REQUESTED, UH, SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT TREE, WHICH THE APPLICANT WILL, UH, IS WILLING TO COMPLY.
AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE, THE PROPERTY MUST BE PROPERLY MAINTAINED IN A STATE OF, UH, GOOD, UH, REPAIR AND, UH, NEED APPEARANCE.
AND THEN THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS USE OF, UH, THE PROPERTY MUST COMPLY WITH ALL FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS, REGULATIONS AS, UH, AS WELL WITH, OR THE CITY ORDINANCE AND RULES AND REGULATIONS.
UM, THERE'S, UH, THE ISSUES, THE REQUEST, UH, FITS WITH THE EXISTING, UH, USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA AND IMMEDIATE AREA.
THE AREA OF REQUEST COMPLIES WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE FOR WORTH DALLAS 2.0 PLAN AND THE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR COMPREHENSIVE LA LAND USE STUDY.
UM, THE REGIONAL MIXED USE ZONING SIGNS ARE, UH, PROPERLY POSTED.
UM, HERE IS THE TRINITY RIVER, UH, CORRIDOR, UM, AS WELL AS COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN.
AND, UH, HERE IS THE MAP OF THE DALLAS FORWARD REGIONAL MIXED USE.
AND, UH, AGAIN, IT COMPLIES WITH, UH, BOTH AND THE STAFF IS, UH, RECOMMENDING A 10 YEAR, UH, PERIOD, UH, WITH ELIGIBLE FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL 10 YEARS PERIOD, SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR 10 YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTO RENEWALS.
'CAUSE THE STAFF REPORT SAYS THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDS REVISITING THE SUP WITHIN 10 YEARS TO ADDRESS ANY CHANGES IN LAND USE AND LAND COMPATIBILITY.
AND THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE THROUGH THAT, THAT WOULDN'T BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH AUTO RENEWALS.
'CAUSE WHAT WOULD JUST HAPPEN AT THE END OF THE 10 YEAR PERIOD IS THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH
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THEIR SITE PLAN.SO IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S A CONTRADICTION BETWEEN WHAT THE STAFF REPORT IS SAYING AND WHAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS.
SO, WHICH IS THE CASE? UH, I'LL REALLY QUICKLY, 10 YEAR, UH, PERIOD, I AGREE WITH, UH, YOUR, UH, UH, VIEW ABOUT THE AUTO RENEWAL.
YEAH, I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT.
I THINK THAT, THAT THERE IS CONSIDERATION, THERE'S STILL EVALUATION CRITERIA THAT OCCURRED AT THE END OF THOSE 10 YEARS.
UM, WE CAN EXPLAIN THOSE IN IN MORE DETAIL, BUT I THINK MAINLY IT WOULD BE REEVALUATED, UM, BY THE SURROUNDING AREA IF, UM, IF THE AREA CHANGES AS IS PREDICTED OR, OR AT LEAST CALLED FOR BY FORWARD DALLAS.
I THINK THAT IS, IS WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT, BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT CALLS FOR REGIONAL MIXED USE.
IF, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE, UH, EITHER, YOU KNOW, REGIONAL MIXED USE, MORE RESIDENTIAL TYPE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT WAS TO MOVE IN.
I THINK THAT'S THE RECONSIDERATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
NOT NECESSARILY BY THIS BODY, BUT BY THE PROCESS THAT AUTO RENEWALS CALL FOR, WHICH IS REVIEW BY STAFF AND NOTIFICATION OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT THE, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE INTERNAL AUTO RENEWAL PROCESS IS THAT THERE'S JUST A, A, A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY COMPLY WITH THEIR SITE PLAN.
THAT IF THERE ARE CONCERN, THAT IT REQUIRES GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO TAKE COMPATIBILITY CONSIDERATIONS INTO, UH, CONSIDERATION UNLESS THEY'RE THE 20% OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO IT JUST SEEMS THAT GIVEN THAT THE FORWARD DALLAS SAYS THIS IS REGIONAL MIXED USE, THIS VERY LARGE TRUCKING FACILITY IS KIND OF A STRETCH TO SAY IT'S GONNA BE COMPATIBLE WITH FU THE HOPE FOR FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT.
SO MY QUESTION JUST HAS TO DO WITH THE SUITABILITY OF A RECOMMENDATION FOR AUTO RENEWALS.
SO MY, BASED ON, ON MY EXPERIENCE, ALSO BASED ON WHAT THE REGIONAL, UM, THE DALLAS FORWARD, UH, PLAN IS STATED, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING OR, OR MY VIEW WAS THAT, THAT IT ALLOWS WAREHOUSES ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
AND, UH, AS YOU SAW FROM, FROM THE PHOTOGRAPHS, THE LAND USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THAT.
IN ADDITION, IT'S BY THE EXPRESSWAY.
SO IT'S, IT'S A, UH, IT WILL BE A GOOD, UH, PLACE TO, TO PUT A TRANSPORTATION HUB THERE AS WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING.
HOWEVER, AS IT WAS DISCUSSED BY A STAFF, WE DO FEEL THAT THAT A 10 YEAR PERIOD IN THE EVENT THAT, UM, THE NEEDS OF, OF THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY CHANGE THAT THEN IT CAN BE REVISITED.
SO THAT WAS THE LOGIC ON, ON THE RECOMMENDATION.
IF I MAY CONTINUE WITH QUESTIONS.
THIS SORT OF TIES IN WITH MY SECOND AREA OF CONCERN, WHICH IS THE NON-STANDARD MATERIAL THAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED, UM, FOR THE PARKING SURFACE, FOR NOT THE DRIVE AISLES.
THEY'RE REQUIRING A HARD SURFACE FOR THE DRIVE LANES, BUT FOR THE PARKING, BECAUSE THIS IS A, UH, UH, AN ISSUE THAT'S COMES UP FREQUENTLY IN INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL AREAS IS, YOU KNOW, WHILE A NON-STANDARD MATERIAL IS SUPERIOR IN WITH STORMWATER CONSIDERATIONS, IT CAUSES AIR POLLUTION PROBLEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN, CAN EVEN BE WORSE BECAUSE THE EFFECT OF HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC ON THAT, THAT NON-STANDARD MATERIAL THEY CALL BASE THAT JUST LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, CRUSHED UP ROCKS.
I MEAN, IT PULVERIZES IN ABOUT HALF A DAY OF OPERATION.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A CLOUD OF, OF, YOU KNOW, AIR PARTICLES.
AND THAT EVEN CAUSES, IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT HAS, IT CAUSES PROBLEMS EVEN WITH ADJACENT, UM, YOU KNOW, HEAVY COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL AREAS.
AND THE REPORT HERE DOES SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE NON-STANDARD MATERIAL IS REQUIRED IN THE SUP, THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE, UH, IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE SUPA PLAN FOR MAINTENANCE AND DESIGNED TO PREVENT WASHOUT.
AND I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE SUP CONDITIONS OR ON THE SITE PLAN.
UH, SO, UH, MAYBE THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE FROM, UH, UH, PERMITS.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, THAT IF, UM, IN WHEN THEY DESIGN THE, THE, THE PARKING AREA, BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE, UM, A MATERIAL THAT IS, UH, THAT, THAT LETS WATER FILTRATE.
BUT AS YOU STATED THAT, THAT, UH, THAT IT WILL PREVENT FROM PUTTING THE DUST, UH, PARTICLES OUT AND THEN CREATING THE POLLUTANT THAT YOU APPLY.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IF, IF THAT NON NON STANDING MATERIAL IS APPROVED, THAT IT HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE CODE.
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UM, I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER SOMETHING THAT, THAT I AM WRONG, BUT THIS WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.I THINK ONE OF, PART OF THE CONSIDERATION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT A NON-CONFORMING FACILITY THAT HAS HAD, UM, GRAVEL ON IT FOR A LONG TIME, AND THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING WITH, WITH GRAVEL OR OTHER, UH, DUST CREATING MATERIALS, UM, THAT I KNOW YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH.
UM, NEWLY PREFERRED, A NEWLY PERMITTED FACILITY.
AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THE DRIVE AISLES PRIMARILY, UM, WITH THAT SOLID MATERIAL.
I THINK THEY'LL BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN SOME OF THE FACILITIES YOU MAY BE REFERRING TO AND, AND, AND HAVE EXPERIENCE.
THE OTHER THING THAT DOES EXIST IN THIS SUP, UH, TO CONTROL THE, UM, ANY DUST OR ANY OTHER, UH, VISUAL, UH, OR OTHERWISE POLLUTION IS, IS THAT THERE IS A TREE PRESERVATION AREA REQUIRED AROUND, UM, IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOT KIND OF OLDER TREES BUILT INTO THE PROPERTY, AND THE BIGGEST AMOUNT OF TREE PRESERVATION TO, TO FILTER AND SCREEN IS BASED ON THE, UM, THE THOROUGHFARE THERE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE, HOW WE'VE LOOKED AT IT IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THAT, UM, ASPECT.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS BEING PUT UNDER ADVISEMENT, BUT I, I I, I WOULD LIKE, WHENEVER COMES BACK, I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE MAINTENANCE AND DESIGN STANDARDS ARE.
AND BECAUSE THE REPORT DOES, UM, THE CASE REPORT DOES SPECIFY THAT THE SEP SHOULD ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES, AND IT DOES NOT.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT, UH, WAS PROMPTING THE QUESTIONS.
I, I WILL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER BY THAT.
UH, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
UM, COMMISSIONER HALL, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING CELLULAR TOWER ON THIS PROPERTY THAT, THAT IS A CORRECT, UH, LET ME, LET ME GO BACK TO THE, UH, IF, UH, IF YOU SEE THE PHOTOGRAPH, UH, IT SHOWS THAT, UH, STRUCTURE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, A CELL TOWER, UH, UH, POLE, WHICH IS THE, THE MM-HMM
THE ANTENNA, THE, THE PROPOSED USE AS A PARK PARKING WILL NOT INTERFERE WITH THE OPERATION OF THAT, UH, CELLULAR TOWER, I'M ASSUMING, UM, THAT I, I WILL, UH, LEAVE, UH, UH, THAT QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
BUT, UH, UH, AS OF NOW, UH, WE'RE KEEPING THAT APPROVE, UH, PERMANENT SUP, UH, WITHIN, WITHIN THE PROPERTY.
AND DID I UNDERSTAND YOU THAT THERE'S AN ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT ALREADY HAS TRUCK PARKING ON IT? YES.
HOWEVER, UH, FOR THE TRANSPARENCY IS IN THE, UH, ADJACENT, UH, UH, MUNICIPALITY, WHICH IS THE, THE CITY OF, UH, KINS.
AND THEN, UH, IF YOU SEE THE, THE PROPERTY ACROSS, THAT'S ALSO OUTSIDE OF OUR, OF OUR JURISDICTION.
AND, UH, HERE AS YOU SEE FROM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU CAN SEE MY, MY, MY MOUSE, WELL, IF YOU SEE RIGHT HERE, THAT'S, THAT'S A PROPERTY, BUT ACROSS FROM THE EXPRESSWAY, THAT'S A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION.
BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THE COMPATIBILITY OF, OF THE ENTIRE, UH, AREA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, FOR OUR STAFF, OSCAR? HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UM, CASE NUMBER FIVE.
ANYBODY NEED FIVE READ? I THINK IT, IT CAME OFF OF CONSENT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, THE TOWER IS A HUNDRED FEET, IS THAT RIGHT? UH, 115 FEET.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE, THERE'S A, UH, I BELIEVE A 10 FOOT LIGHTNING ROD THAT GOES ON TOP THE, UH, ON TOP OF THE TOWER.
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UH, I, I READ THE REPORT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE APPROPRIATE FENCING AROUND THE TOWER, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES.THEY DO PROPOSE FENCING, UH, BASED ON THEIR SITE PLAN.
I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW IT'S CHAIN LINK FENCING.
AND, UH, IN THE REPORT IT SAYS THAT THE, UH, TOWER IS, UH, SITUATED WITHIN A COMMERCIAL AREA AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL USES.
CAN YOU CONFIRM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE TO THIS AND FEET WOULD LIKE IS AT, AT LEAST 500 FEET AWAY? LET ME TAKE A QUICK LOOK ON THE MAP.
AS I RECALL, I THINK THE NEAREST DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IS ABOUT 350 TO 400 FEET.
BUT IF YOU'LL GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT, I CAN GET A MORE ACCURATE NUMBER THERE.
SO AN APPROXIMATION FROM, I WOULD SAY THE SOUTHWEST SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THE PROPOSED BUILD AREA TOWARDS THE NEAREST, UH, RESIDENTIAL LOTS, ABOUT 400 FEET WOULD BE THE CLOSEST ONE.
UM, IT'S ON A CURB, SO AS THE RADIUS INCREASES, IT GETS FURTHER.
UM, TOM MARTIN, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE? PERFECT.
YOU STILL WANT IT OFF CONSENT OR IS IT OKAY TO STAY ON CONSENT? IT CAN REMAIN ON CONSENT.
WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON SIX, MR. CHAIR.
FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL THE WORK YOU AND YOUR, YOUR TEAM ON THE PLANNING SIDE HAVE DONE ON THIS CASE.
OF COURSE, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME RESIDENT CONCERNS REGARDING THE RELOCATION OF THE NEW STRUCTURE TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, ADJACENT, UNFORTUNATELY TO A LOT OF HOMES.
AND SO THEY HAVE CONCERNS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE WORKING TO, UH, TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE.
SO APPRECIATE THAT AND CERTAINLY WORKING WITH ME AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, CAN YOU TELL US THE RESULTS OF THE NOTIFICATION LETTERS THAT WERE SENT OUT? UH, I JUST, UH, GOT THREE, UM, I THINK THREE OR FOUR IN OPPOSITION.
SO ONLY THREE OR FOUR IN, IN OPPOSITION.
AND I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CALLS.
ONE IS THE COMMISSIONER AND ONE IS THE PRESIDENT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT LETTERS BEING SENT AND WHAT APPEARED TO BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DELAY IN THOSE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WERE SENT PER THE, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR YOU, AND THIS MAY NOT BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME OR PLACE, BUT I, IS THERE A WAY TO AMEND THAT PROCESS WHERE HOMEOWNERS ARE GIVEN MORE TIME TO RESPOND TO THOSE LETTERS? AND ALSO IS THE DIRECT RESPONSE VIA REGULAR MAIL THE ONLY WAY THAT, THAT THEY CAN RESPOND? I CAN, I THINK YOU MIGHT GUILTY.
SO FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW YOU WERE, I THINK YOU WERE RESPONDING TO THE PE THE PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO YOU PERSONALLY WITH REGARDS TO THE CASE WITH THE THREE.
SO I, I, I HAD, IT'S HARD TO GET THE LETTERS AT AT THE LAST MINUTE.
WE USUALLY TO COUNSELOR MADE THE NIGHT BEFORE, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
UM, WE HAD ONE IN FAVOR AND WE HAD 10 IN OPPOSITION, AND WE HAD 133 PEOPLE NOTIFIED OKAY.
SO THAT'S THE OFFICIAL, AS OF LIKE THEM COUNTING IT, UH, YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
UM, SO THAT'S, UH, THE ANSWER IN REGARDS TO, UM, MAILERS THAT HAVE BEEN RESPONDED TO.
SO RIGHT NOW, UM, OUR CODE TO THE GREATEST DEGREE IS WHAT DEFINES, UM, HOW OUR, UH, THEY'RE CALLED PROTESTS OR, UM, LETTERS CAN BE COLLECTED FOR THESE PURPOSES.
SO RIGHT NOW OUR CODE, UM, DOES CALL FOR THEM TO BE RETURNED BY MAIL.
UM, AND, AND SO ON TO BE COUNTED IN THIS.
BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT YOUR LETTERS ARE NOT THE ONLY MEANS OF BEING INVOLVED, HAVING YOUR VOICE HEARD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO WE OFTEN GET EMAILS AND I THINK SHE WAS REFERRING
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TO THAT, AND WE OFTEN GET EMAILS AND CALLS AND WE DO, UM, TAKE THOSE INTO ACCOUNT.WE TRY AND PASS THEM ALONG, UM, WHEN THE, UM, WHEN THE NEIGHBORS, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE DONE.
UH, SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD BE, UM, LOOKED AT AS THE CODE IS AMENDED, UM, WITH REGARDS TO NOTIFICATION, TRANSPARENCY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, RIGHT NOW OUR CODE SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT NEEDS TO BE A MAIL, IT NEEDS TO BE THESE CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, AND, AND ALL OF THAT.
AND OUR, OUR CODE IS BASED TO A GREAT DEGREE ON STATE CODE, BUT IT DOES GO ABOVE AND BEYOND STATE CODE, UM, FOR CERTAIN THINGS, CERTAINLY NOT BELOW, UM, WHAT STATE CODE CALLS FOR IN THOSE REGARDS, I IMAGINE.
UM, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, THAT DURING THE CODE REFORM, CERTAIN ASPECTS COULD BE LOOKED AT TO INCREASE TRANSPARENCY AND POSSIBILITY, UM, UH, FOR ENGAGEMENT AND, UH, NOTIFICATION AND, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND COLLECTING RESPONSES, UM, WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF STATE LAW.
BUT I, I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
IT'S NOT, MOST OF THIS STUFF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS NOT DEPARTMENT PRACTICE.
THE, THE CONCERN IN THIS CASE, QUITE FRANKLY, WAS THAT THE, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT CALLED ME SAID THAT BY THE TIME HE RECEIVED THE LETTER, UM, AND IT'S NOT AS THOUGH HE WAS OUT OF TOWN OR UNAVAILABLE, IT'S THE POSTAL SERVICE, I GUESS, UM, HE HAD TWO DAYS TO COMPLETE THAT AND SEND IT BACK REGULAR MAIL.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE THAT IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHANGE IN THE CODE AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I'M ASSUMING THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO TO DRIVE THAT.
AND, AND I IMAGINE THAT'S A REASONABLE THING TO ADDRESS DURING A A, THE REFORM THAT IS, UH, ONGOING.
UH, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD IS THINK ABOUT THAT.
WE'RE WE'RE JUST, WE, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW.
THERE ARE OTHER METHODS TO KNOW, BUT I KNOW THAT THE, ONE OF THE MOST WIDESPREAD ONE IS THE LETTER THAT IS MAILED, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE CASE.
BUT, UM, FOR THE SAKE OF THIS LETTER BEING RETURNED, UM, THESE LETTERS BEING RETURNED ARE CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN GIVE INPUT.
UM, IF THEY, SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT IS DEPENDENT ON THE POST POSTAL SERVICE, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR CODE CALLS FOR.
BUT IF THEY GET THE LETTER, THEY SEND IT BACK AFTER A DAY OR SO.
EVEN, YES, IT, IT MAY NOT MAKE IT BEFORE THIS HEARING DATE OF THE FIRST HEARING DATE, PROVIDED THE CASE IS NOT HELD.
UM, REALLY GETTING THEIR PAPER NOTIFICATION ON THE RECORD FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS REPLY MAP, UM, IS MORE SIGNIFICANT FOR THE COUNSEL WHERE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF AN OPPOSITION CAN CHANGE THE, UM, TYPE OF COUNCIL VOTE THAT'S NEEDED, THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF COUNCIL VOTE, UM, THAT IS NEEDED, OR THE AMOUNT OF COMMISSION VOTE THAT'S NEEDED.
I MEAN, YOU CAN HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF PEOPLE RESPOND.
IT DOESN'T, UH, TO THE PLAN COMMISSION.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE HOW THE PLAN COMMISSION WILL VOTE.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, I, I KNOW AND, AND I, AND WE HELP FACILITATE INPUT THAT'S BEYOND JUST THE ACTUAL RESPONSES TO THESE LETTERS, BUT THE REAL DETAILED FEEDBACK OF PEOPLE'S OPINIONS, UM, THEY'RE VOICES WHICH ARE USUALLY NOT BINARY.
AND CERTAINLY ON THIS CASE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA, UM, BUT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ONE THING OR ANOTHER, UM, THAT IS NOT CAPTURED IN THE MAIL.
UM, AND THAT IS CAPTURED IN THIS PROCESS TO A DEGREE.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING THAT.
UM, I DON'T WANT US ONLY TO BE HUNG UP ON LETTERS WHEN WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK.
THEY HAVE A LEGAL RAMIFICATION AT THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL, BUT NOT AT THIS PLAN COMMISSION LEVEL.
UM, SO AS YOU'RE ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE COLLECTING RESPONSES OUTSIDE OF JUST THESE LETTERS.
UM, THESE ARE A GREAT TOOL TO A, A TOOL TO NOTIFY PEOPLE, UM, ONE OF THE TOOLS, BUT NOT THE ONLY WAY OF GETTING THE FEEDBACK.
AND IT IT, IF THEY, AND, AND I WILL ADD ONE MORE THING, THAT IF THEY SEND A LETTER THAT THEY RECEIVE FOR THE PLAN COMMISSION, IF THEY'VE MAILED IT TODAY, UM, IT'LL BE ON THE RECORD FOR COUNSEL.
AGAIN, THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE CHAIR'S INDULGENCE ON THAT.
JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS IF I COULD.
UM, THERE HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN PLANNING STAFF, UH, MYSELF, UH, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, WHAT HAVE YOU.
UM, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED NOW WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN ON THIS PROJECT? AND I BELIEVE THE OTHER ISSUE WAS, UH, NOISE ABATEMENT ON, UM, AN ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMER AND HVAC EQUIPMENT, UH, REGARDING TMP.
I KNOW THEY ARE STILL WORKING TO REFINE THAT, AND WE DON'T, UM, GET THE, UH, REVISED VERSION
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YET.BUT, UH, WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UM, RISD AND ALSO, UH, THE TEAM AND, UH, REGARDING NOISE, UH, WE ASKED ABOUT, UM, MOVING THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, SANITARY PAD AND ALL THOSE, UH, TRANSFORMATIVE, UH, UH, SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND, UH, IT SEEMS THAT THERE ARE SOME, UM, PRACTICAL ENGINEERING REASONING THAT THEY NEED TO KEEP THEM THERE, UH, BECAUSE, UH, IT'S, UM, WHERE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO BASEMENT AND, UH, THEY NEED TO KEEP THOSE THERE.
AND JUST SO, AND JUST SO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE COMMISSION UNDERSTAND, UH, THE, CURRENTLY THAT TRANSFORMER IS LOCATED, UH, A FAIR AMOUNT OF DISTANCE FROM THE EXISTING HOMES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE IT, UH, INTO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER AND WHERE THEY DO THAT, UH, THE NOISE IS GONNA BE EVEN MORE THAN THAN WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
SO CERTAINLY I INTEND TO, TO WORK WITH THE, THE, THE DISTRICT.
IN FACT, WE HAVE MEETINGS COMING UP WITH THEM.
UM, AND I'LL EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE POSSIBLE GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'RE HEARING, UH, THIS CASE TODAY.
BUT, UH, HOPEFULLY THEY CAN ADDRESS IT.
AND I WILL SAY THAT EVERYBODY, UH, INCLUDING THE DISTRICT, CERTAINLY CITY STAFF, UH, HAS BEEN VERY ENGAGING, UH, WILLING TO WORK TOGETHER.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CONTENTIOUS ISSUES HERE THAT, THAT CAN'T BE OVERCOME WITH SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION.
I WILL BE REQUESTING, AS, YOU KNOW, A DELAY ON THIS CASE UNTIL JANUARY SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE UPGRADED OR UPDATED, UH, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND HOPEFULLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE OTHER ISSUES.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SURE.
AND ALL THE EFFORTS THAT YOU AND YOUR, YOUR TEAM HAVE PUT IN ON THIS.
UM, COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER COX QUESTIONS REGARDING THE LETTERS.
UM, I LOOK AT THE ZONING PACKET AND THERE ARE SEVEN RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE AND THE ZONING PACKET.
AND I UNDERSTAND MICHAEL JUST, UH, INDICATED THAT THERE WERE ALT A TOTAL 10 LETTERS IN OPPOSITION.
SO I, MY QUESTION IS, FIRST OF ALL, MS. UH, KAREEM HASHIMI, UH, INDICATED IN HER RES, UH, RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER COX THAT THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR LETTERS IN OPPOSITION IN HER RESPONSE.
AND, AND YOU'RE SAYING NOW THERE'S 10 LETTERS IN OPPOSITION.
SO WHY ARE, WHY, WHY WOULD WE HAVE THIS DIFFERENCE HERE? AND WHAT, WHY WOULD NOT ALL THE LETTERS BE IN THIS PACKET THAT WE RECEIVED YESTERDAY? RIGHT.
YEAH, NO, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT, SO FIRST OF ALL, TO START THAT, WE GOT, AND I'LL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME.
UM, THOSE THAT COUNT REFLECTS THE, UM, THE PAPER MAILERS WE GOT BACK, THE ONES THAT ARE SCANNED.
OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN TO ONLY SCAN THE ONES THAT HAVE NARRATIVE COMMENTS ON THERE, RATHER THAN FOLKS WHO HAVE JUST CHECKED A BOX.
SO I THINK YOUR BALANCE BETWEEN HOW MANY WE HAVE IN THIS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 BLUE FORMS IN HERE, AND THE 10 IS, I PRESUME THE REMAINING THREE JUST CHECKED OPPOSED RATHER THAN WRITING A NARRATIVE COMMENT.
BUT THEY WERE STILL, THEY, THEY DID INDICATE THEIR OPPOSITION.
AND THEY WERE COUNTED AS PART OF THAT 10.
BUT, BUT FOR, FOR OUR PURPOSES, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I'M ONLY SEEING SEVEN LETTERS IN OPPOSITION.
SO I'M ONLY THINKING THERE ARE SEVEN LETTERS IN OPPOSITION.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT SEEING BEFORE THIS HEARING THAT THERE ARE 10 LETTERS IN OPPOSITION OR 10 10, 10 RESPONSES IN OPPOSITION.
SO FOR THE OVERALL THING, I WOULD LOOK AT THE, THE, THE FOR PAGE OF THAT SECTION.
OF THE PACKET FOR, FOR ALL OF THE BINARY YES NOS.
THEN WHEN WE HAVE THAT NARRATIVE THERE IN BLUE BELOW, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
MR. MR. PEPE, IS IT CORRECT THAT THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND ON THAT BOTTOM TABLE THERE'S THE LISTING OF THE NUMBER OF NOTICES SAID THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND THE NUMBER OF O UH, RESPONSES RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
THAT'S KIND OF THE SUMMARY OF THE OFFICIAL REPLY FORMS. IS THAT CORRECT? AND THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS READING OFF OF 1, 1 33, 1 AND 10 IS THOSE.
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AND SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BLUE FORMS AND THAT NUMBER IS THOSE WHO JUST CHECKED BINARY.NO, UM, AND DID NOT GIVE ANY NARRATIVE OR REASON.
UM, COMMISSIONER, UM, KINGSTON FIRST, AND I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU, UH, KAUFMAN, AND THEN YOU, THANK YOU.
WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION ISSUE, DID WE EVER GET BRIEFED ON SB 24, WHICH IS NOW CODIFIED IN THE GOVERNMENT CODE? HB HB 24? IT WAS PART HB, YEAH, IT WAS PART OF THE BIG STATE LAW, UM, PACKET.
DID WE GET, I THINK IT WAS NEAR THE BEGINNING.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE GOT BRIEFED ON IT.
BACK AUGUST WITH SO MANY NEW COMMISSIONERS.
IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO, TO A LITTLE REFRESH OF ALL THE CHANGES IN STATE LAW LAST YEAR.
WOULD YOU LIKE US TO DO THAT NOW? UH, AT, YOU'RE SAYING ANOTHER BRIEFING OR DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION TO, TO CLARIFY? I DON'T HAVE A, NO, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S SOME MISINFORMATION, UM, PARTICULARLY ON THE NOTIFICATION STUFF WITH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND WITH SO MANY NEW PLAN COMMISSIONERS, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO GO OVER THE HIGH POINTS OF THE CHANGES IN THE LEGISLATURE, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SORT OF SETTLING OF WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS, IS INTERPRETING THEM.
UM, AND SO INITIALLY THERE WAS SOME MISCOMMUNICATION OR, OR JUST LACK OF CLARITY.
UH, AND I THINK MAYBE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TODAY, JUST LIKE SURE.
ON YOUR LITTLE LIST OF THINGS TO DO.
YEAH, LET'S, LET'S, UM, LET'S DO THAT.
'CAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS IN AUGUST AND LOTS OF NEW FACES HERE.
AND IF THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT, THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN.
I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THIS DISCUSSION ON THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS.
A RECENT ZONING CASE, UH, THE NOTIFICATIONS WENT OUT AND, UH, ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WAS WITH THE TWO, WITHIN THE 200 FOOT AREA THAT COULD ACTUALLY ASK FOR A POSTPONEMENT AND FILE THE FEE AND SO FORTH, UH, DID NOT RECEIVE THEIR NOTIFICATION.
IT WENT OUT, I GUESS, FROM THE CITY THURSDAY AFTERNOON IN THE MAIL ON FRIDAY.
AND, BUT IT WAS DUE ON MONDAY.
IN ORDER FOR THEM TO FILE THAT DELAY, THE PROPERTY OWNER DID NOT RECEIVE HER NOTIFICATION FROM THE CITY UNTIL THE FOLLOWING DAY, WHICH WAS TUESDAY, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WAS TOO LATE FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
THE WE'RE YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
IT REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE ONLY AT COUNCIL, BUT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE HERE AND IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE ON THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES AND SO FORTH, WHEN THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST BEEN PUT IN THE MAIL AND IT'S UP TO YOU TO GET IT AND GET IT BACK TIMELY.
AND THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT WORKING VERY MANY TIMES.
SO, UH, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE STAFF AND, AND, AND ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SO FORTH LOOK AT SOME THINGS IF THERE ARE NOT OTHER WAYS.
'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT TECHNICALLY THE EMAIL VOTE IS REALLY NOT A LOGISTIC LEGITIMATE VOTE ON WHETHER THEY'RE OPPOSED OR NOT.
SO I THINK WE HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO TO BRING OUR CREDIBILITY UP WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND WITH THE PEOPLE THAT TRY TO GET THESE THINGS DONE AND GET 'EM DONE ON A TIMELY BASIS.
AND, UM, COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT JUST BRIEFLY.
UM, WE TAKE EMAILS SERIOUSLY AROUND HERE.
UM, THE CANNED EMAILS CAN BE A BIT BURDENSOME FOR US, THE SYSTEM IN GETTING YOUR VOICE HEARD, BUT ME AND A LOT OF THE COMMISSIONERS AROUND HERE TAKE EMAILS JUST AS SERIOUS AS THOSE CARDS, MAINLY BECAUSE WE GET A DEEPER NARRATIVE.
UM, I KNOW, BUT IT DOESN'T COUNT.
WELL, NOW WHEN YOU GET TO COUNCIL, COUNCIL MAY BE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? BUT AT CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, WELL, I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I'VE NOT BEEN AWARE OF THAT FOR MANY YEARS.
AND, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IT HAD TO BE COME INTO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAD IT TABULATED AND THAT WAS THE OFFICIAL NUMBER.
SO A PART OF TABULATIONS AT CITY COUNCIL DO MATTER ON THE BLUE CARDS, RIGHT? RIGHT.
ACCORDING TO BLUE CARDS, IT DETERMINES HOW MANY VOTES HAVE TO BE POSITIVE.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAVEAT AT CITY COUNCIL AT PLAN COMMISSION.
UM, AND WE ALWAYS TRY TO BRING FORWARD, MOST OF US, I'VE, I'VE NEVER HAD AN EXPERIENCE WHERE SOMEONE EMAILED US IN OPPOSITION AND IT WASN'T HEARD HERE.
RIGHT? SO, UM, I WANT I'M SAYING THAT TO SAY, TAKE YOUR EMAILS JUST AS SERIOUS AND BRING THEM FORWARD.
UM, WE WILL RESPECT THEM AS YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
BUT, AND, AND I'M, I'M REALLY NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE HERE, BUT I'M TRYING MY SECOND POINT, WHAT I'M TO SAY IS THE GENERAL PUBLIC OUT THERE DOESN'T KNOW THAT.
AND THAT'S OUR JOB TO LET THEM KNOW THAT I, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
AND WE ARE NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF DEVELOPMENT RE I MEAN CODE REFORM, AND THIS IS THE TIME TO BRING IT UP.
SO WHEN UH, STAFF STARTS MEETING WITH YOU, THESE LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU SEE YOU WANT CHANGED, BRING THEM UP TO STAFF
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SO WE CAN, SO THEY CAN TALK IT OUT AND WORK IT OUT.HOPEFULLY THEY'VE ALREADY WORKED THROUGH IT AND HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
UM, BUT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT TIME PERIOD, UM, WHERE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO GET OUT.
WE'LL HAVE THE TIME AND THE, THE PRESENTATIONS BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, AND VOTES.
IT, IT'S GONNA BE A, A, A STRESSFUL PROCESS, BUT WE'LL GET THROUGH IT, UM, TOGETHER.
BUT YOU, WE, THAT'S THE PROCESS AS FAR AS STAFF AND ATTORNEYS LOOKING AT IT.
UM, CODE REFORM DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN.
WE'RE BLESSED TO BE HERE AT THIS TIME IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
UM, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THIS WORKED OUT BECAUSE IT, IT IS A PROBLEM ACROSS THE CITY.
IT'S NOT JUST YOUR DISTRICT COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPARENCY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN THESE ZONING CASES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE CITIZENS AND FOR THEM TO FEEL LIKE THAT THEY'RE REALLY BEING HEARD.
MAY I, MAY I MAKE A COMMENT? IT'S SERRA.
UM, CARISSA, BEFORE YOU SPEAK, UM, COMMISSIONER KUNZ HAD A, A COMMENT, JUST, WE KEEP ORDER JUST REAL QUICK.
I, I, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION LATER TO HOLD THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT.
HAVING SAID THAT, UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THE, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED, UH, TO, FOR A, A HOLD UNTIL JANUARY? YES, THEY DID.
I JUST WANTED MY COLLEAGUES TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SERATO.
YEAH, I'M, I I'M GONNA COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON THE MAILINGS.
UM, I THINK THE POINT MY COLLEAGUES ARE TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT, UM, THIS IS AN ACCESSIBILITY THING, RIGHT? LIKE NOT ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE SAVVY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO FIND EMAILS, FIND PHONE NUMBERS, CONNECT WITH THE CORRECT PEOPLE, AND I IMAGINE THE PURPOSE OF THE MAILINGS IS THAT'S A DIRECT TOUCH POINT WITH PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE HOMES, AND IT'S A DIRECT WAY FOR THEM TO REPLY TO THE GIVEN ISSUE.
UM, SO WHEN THINGS ARE COMING LATE OR THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MAIL IT OFF IN TIME, UM, OR EVEN MAILING IT IN IS THE ONLY OPTION, RIGHT? LIKE, I, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER LIKE THAT BEING A POINT OF ACCESSIBILITY, RIGHT? LIKE, NOT EVERYBODY WILL, I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER THINGS TO, AND OTHER WAYS AND METHODS TO COMMUNICATE CONCERNS, BUT THE PURPOSE OF MAILING IS THAT THAT'S A DIRECT TOUCHPOINT WITH SOMEONE, RIGHT? AND SO HAVING, UM, THE TIME TO DO THAT IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE AND THEN ADDITIONAL WAYS TO GIVE FEEDBACK, UM, EVEN IF IT'S LISTED ON THE MAILING ITSELF.
LIKE YOU CAN MAIL THIS BACK OR DO THIS.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DECIDED NOW, BUT IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE, OH, WE CHECKED THE BOX, WE SENT OUT THE STUFF, WE DID OUR PART.
BUT REALLY THE PURPOSE IS TO GET, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW, I MAYBE I'M ASSUMING, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT FEELS LIKE.
UM, MY, MY COLLEAGUES HERE ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF JUST CHECKING THE BOX.
WE DID IT, BUT NOT ACTUALLY GIVING PEOPLE SUFFICE TIME TO GIVE THEIR RESPONSES.
SO THAT'S JUST MY LITTLE 2 CENTS AND, AND THANK YOU ALL.
I KNOW THIS IS A BROADER DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT, BUT I, I WILL SAY, TO KIND OF SPEAK TO, UM, COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN'S QUESTION REGARDING THE POSTPONEMENTS, UM, I WILL SAY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A NOTICE IN YOUR HAND IN ORDER TO COME DO THE POSTPONEMENT.
I UNDERSTAND IT IS A WAY OF LEARNING ABOUT THE CASE, BUT PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE NOTICE IN THEIR HAND.
THEY DO NEED TO BE IN THAT AREA OF NOTIFICATION, UM, PER THE CODE.
UM, BUT THE CODE DOES NOT SAY THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE THE NOTIFICATION IN, IN THEIR HAND.
SO THAT'S THE ONLY CLARIFICATION I'D ADD.
COMMISSIONER WILLER, ISN'T IT ALSO THE WAY TO, TO, UM, BE INVOLVED IS THERE IS A SIGN UP THAT WHENEVER ZONING CASES ARE COMING OUT IN YOUR AREA, THAT YOU'LL RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE, WE MIGHT NEED TO DO.
UM, I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, THAT I PURPOSELY HAVE DONE PRIOR TO BECOMING A COMMISSIONER IS MAKE SURE THAT THE EDUCATION FACTOR IN WORKING WITH THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION IS GIVEN OUT SO THAT THEY'RE, WELL BEFORE I BECAME A COMMISSIONER, EVERY TIME THERE WAS A A, A ZONING CASE IN MY AREA, I GOT A NOTIFICATION THAT THERE WAS A ZONING CASE BECAUSE I WAS SIGNED UP ON A SYSTEM THAT, THAT, THAT ALLOWS THAT.
BUT ALSO, UM, WE'RE DEPENDING ON THE US MAIL, WHO IS A WHO, WHO FAILS US DAILY, UM, AND SENDING OUT WITHIN 10 DAYS A NOTIFICATION USUALLY IS WE'RE IS NOT GOING ACROSS COUNTRY.
SOMETIMES GOING ACROSS COUNTRY IS MORE EFFICIENT THAN GOING AROUND THE CORNER.
SO IT'S NEVER LEAVING THE CITY OF DALLAS.
IT'S GOING FROM WHATEVER POSTAL LOCATION HERE TO, UM, 30 AND BACK OUT.
AND SO, UM, ASIDE WHETHER IT'S 10 DAYS OR 20 DAYS, THE POSTAL SERVICE IS, IS DEFINITELY A ISSUE.
BUT I THINK THE EDUCATION AND WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY
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ARE INVOLVED, AND I KNOW WHO OUR LEADERS ARE IN ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, AS, AS COMMUNITY LEADERS, THAT THAT IS ALWAYS GONNA BE THE MOST EFFICIENT.AND LETTING THEM KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THOSE SIGNS UP, THE FIRST LINE OF, OF COMMUNICATION THAT SOMETHING IS GOING ON IS THOSE POSTED SIGNS AND ENSURING THOSE POSTED SIGNS AND EDUCATING THEM ON WHAT THOSE POSTAL SIGNS, WHAT THOSE POSTED SIGNS ARE, AND TELLING THEM TO START REACHING OUT AND, AND US REACHING OUT.
I, I, UM, I KNOW THAT IT IS, IT CAN BE HARDER, BUT I KNOW DEFINITELY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN, IN DISTRICT SEVEN, WE HAVE BEEN VERY EFFICIENT AT BEGINNING TO GET THE WORD OUT AND EDUCATING OUR PEOPLE ON WHAT IS WHAT.
AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS HAVE BEEN WAY BETTER SINCE WE HAVE A BOOK OF PERMITS COMING, UM, ZONING CHANGES 'CAUSE OF ALL THE ACTIVITY WE HAVE IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
I'LL BE LOOKING FOR HOW TO FORM, UH, DOCUMENT TO SEND AROUND.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS THAT MAYBE A BRIEFING ON NOTIFICATIONS, HOW THEY WORK, WAYS THINGS WORK, THE NEW STATE LAW CHANGES, UM, WILL ALL HELP US A LOT, UM, GOING FORWARD.
SO I THINK WE HAD A RETREAT ONE YEAR.
WE MAY NEED TO GET BACK TO THAT, BUT NEITHER HERE OR THERE.
I CAUGHT COVID AT THAT RETREAT.
UM, SO HEARING THAT, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE.
UM, CHAIR, I JUST HAD TWO QUESTIONS IF I MAY.
SO MS. HASHIMI, UM, I KNOW WE HAVE CORRESPONDED, BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF MY COLLEAGUES, IS IT CORRECT THAT DUE TO THE NATURE OF THIS SUP AND THE AGE OF THE SUP, THAT THERE ARE NO CHANGES POSSIBLE TO THE CONDITIONS? UM, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF IT WAS GRANTED 1951? YES.
UH, WE ADVISED TO NOT AMEND THE P UH, THE SUP CONDITIONS, UH, BECAUSE IT'S AN OLD SUP.
AND IF WE CLOSE THE, UH, IF WE OPEN THE CONDITIONS, THEN UH, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, WOULD, UH, LOSE THE, UH, ALL THE COMMERCIAL USERS THAT ARE LISTED ON THAT, UH, COP AND THE MATTER THAT IS BEFORE US TODAY IS VERY SPECIFIC TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN TO ENCLOSE THE EXISTING BUILDING.
BUT THERE'S NO OTHER CHANGES PROPOSED FOR ITS FUNCTIONAL USE FOR THE SITE.
UM, ANY OTHER, UM, CRITERIA, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY JUST WANT TOOSE THE EXISTING, UH, CARDBOARD, UH, STRUCTURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? TABITHA? UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER? IS THIS A, IS THIS A PERMANENT ISSUE? PUP? IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY TIME LIMIT.
I JUST, 'CAUSE IT SEEMS THAT WE CAN'T TOUCH IT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE.
NO QUESTIONS ON EIGHT? NO NEED TO, UH, BRIEF.
UM, ACTUALLY I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR MR. PEPE.
IS IT CORRECT THAT, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMEND, UH, STAFF HAD RECEIVED A REVISED, UM, SITE PLAN? WE DID AND WE DID DISTRIBUTE IT EARLIER THIS WEEK.
AND SO IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, SUBJECT TO THE REVISED ICE PLAN AS DISTRIBUTED? DO WE NEED TO BRIEF THAT FOR THE RECORD? IT IS.
I, IF WE DISTRIBUTED IT, I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO.
UM, BUT WHEN I DID READ IT INTO THE RECORD, ULTIMATELY I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, YEAH.
AND THAT SCREENING EXISTING TREE PROVISIONS AND ADDITIONAL TREE PLANTING REQUIREMENTS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? PERFECT.
I KNOW IT'S BEING HELD, UM, UNTIL JANUARY 15TH, CORRECT.
UM, MOVING ON TO CASE NUMBER 10.
UM, MARTIN, UM,
UH, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION, MARTIN.
I'M SORRY, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, THIS CASE WAS HELD LAST TIME FOR COMMUNITY IN INVOLVEMENT.
YOU ARE AWARE THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, RIGHT? UH, THAT IS CORRECT.
WHAT I'VE, UH, UNDERSTOOD AND RECEIVED FROM THE APPLICANT RECENTLY IS, UH, I THINK HE WAS, OR THE REPRESENTATIVE, HE WAS WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON KICKING AROUND SOME IDEAS TO MODIFY THE REQUEST.
UH, SUBSEQUENTLY THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT'S OCCURRED SO
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FAR.UH, THEY DID SEND OVER SOME, AGAIN, SOME IDEAS TO POTENTIALLY UPDATE OR MODIFY THE APPLICATION.
UH, STAFF IS STILL REVIEWING THAT, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT CAN BE, UH, PUT INTO SOMETHING SUCH AS A DEED RESTRICTION OR PD OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
UH, SO I THINK, UH, CERTAINLY A HOLD WOULD BE, UH, PROVEN IN THIS CASE.
AND, UH, THIS LESSON, THIS QUESTION IS, UM, ABOUT SBA 40 BECAUSE OF THE, IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL SITE, BUT RULES PERTAINING TO MULTIFAMILY NOW HAVE TO ADJUST SBA 40.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN A AIRPLANE OR AIR AVIATION ACCIDENTAL AREA? I WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT ON THE, UH, GIS MAP, UH, I DID TAKE A LOOK EARLIER THIS MORNING.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT I SAW ON THE GIS MAP IS THAT IT'S WITHIN, IT'S WITHIN A BUFFER FOR SB 15.
UH, IF YOU RECALL, SB 15 HAD SOME PROVISIONS, UH, VERY SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO, UH, POLICE TRAINING FACILITIES.
UH, I WON'T GET INTO THAT, BUT, UH, IT'S WITHIN THAT BUFFER.
UH, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER FOR THE AIRPORT KINDA EXCLUSION ZONES.
UH, FROM LOOKING AT THE GIS MAP, IT SEEMS THAT THE EXCLUSION ZONE FOR, UH, COMING OUTTA DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT, IT KIND OF PEERS OUT TO THE EAST OF THIS SITE.
I'M A LITTLE EAST OF COCKRELL HILL, SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S WITHIN THE SB EIGHT 40 EX EXCLUSION.
UM, I WOULD NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THE LANGUAGE OF SB EIGHT 40 AND CONFIRM THAT IT'S, UM, THAT THE BUFFER ZONE ON OUR GIS MAP REFLECTS THAT.
UM, COMM COMMISSIONER WHEELER, ISN'T IT, EVEN THOUGH THAT IT'S MULTI-FAMILY, THAT THE SBA 40 CONSULTATION IS JUST A PRE PRELIMINARY, THAT THEY NECESSARILY DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE TO GO UP UNDER THE SBA 40? UH, BUT IT IS A CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IF THE, IF THE, UM, DEVELOPER WANTS ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, BUT THEY NECESSARILY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PRESCREENING OF THE SBA 40, THERE'S A CHOICE BETWEEN THEIR CHOICE AND IN THAT CHOICE, THEY WILL DETERMINE WHAT, WHAT THOSE GUIDELINES UP ON THE SCBA 40 WOULD BE.
SO IF IT WERE TO BE REZONED, UH, TO WHAT THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING WITH MF TWO, UH, THEY WOULD BE ENTITLED TO THE SB EIGHT 40, UH, THE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS THAT SB EIGHT 40 ALLOWS? UH, I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW OUR GUIDANCE IS THAT WE DON'T NEED A PRE-DEVELOPMENT CONSULTATION.
IF YOU HAVE AN MF DISTRICT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ENCOURAGE APPLICANTS TO, OR WE ENCOURAGE, UH, DEVELOPERS TO COME TO US TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT.
UH, BUT I BELIEVE WE PRIMARILY REQUIRE, WE REQUIRE THOSE CONSULTATIONS WHEN IT'S SOMEONE WHO'S USING THE, WHAT I CALL THE LOCATION REMEDY.
SO THE THING THAT SAYS, OH, IT'S A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, THEREFORE YOU'RE POSSIBLY ALLOWED TO DO MULTI-FAMILY, THAT'S WHERE WE REQUIRE IT.
UM, OR IF IT'S A PD, SAME THING.
UH, BUT IN THIS CASE, THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO DO THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT CONSULTATION.
UH, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BUILD UP TO THE MAX HEIGHTS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN, OR THAT ARE ALLOWED IN SB EIGHT 40.
UH, MUCH LIKE JUST OUR STANDARD ZONING CODE, MAX HEIGHTS ARE SIMPLY THAT A MAXIMUM YOU CAN BUILD WELL BELOW THAT AND THEY COULD BUILD A 15 FOOT MULTIFAMILY BUILDING IF THEY SO SHOWS.
BUT IF THEY WANT TO, TO GET THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SBA 40 SCREENING.
I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD NEED TO IF IT WAS REZONED AT MF TWO.
NO, IT WOULD ONLY BE IF IT WAS REZONED, LET'S SAY TO A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD NEED A CONSULTATION.
UH, BUT IF IT'S REZONED TO MF TWO, THEN THEY WOULD JUST, THEY WOULD HAVE THE ENTITLEMENT OF THE SB EIGHT 40 DEVELOPMENT BONUSES, OR NOT BONUSES, BUT THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? OR, SO BASICALLY IF IT GOES TO MF TWO, WE KNOW THAT MF TWO IN OUR CODE, IT SAYS THE MAX HEIGHT IS 36 FEET.
UH, WITH SB EIGHT 40, THE ACTUAL SORT OF THE IN EFFECT IS THEY CAN GO TO 45 FEET.
SO IT'S WHATEVER THE MAXIMUM IS.
BUT THEY, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THAT IF THEY WANT THE ADDITIONAL THAT THEY GO THROUGH THAT THEY GET THAT CONSULTATION? NO, THEY WOULD NOT NEED THE CONSULTATION IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST, IF THEY GOT THE MF TWO, THEY COULD GO TO, UH, PERMITTING THE NEXT DAY AND, UH, SUBMIT A SITE PLAN AND YEAH, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD EVALUATE UNDER THE SB EIGHT 40 PROVISIONS.
THEY'D SAY, AS LONG AS IT'S BELOW 45 FEET, YOU'RE GOOD.
AND THAT'S IN A VERY BROAD, BROAD LEVEL.
AND MARTIN, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THIS IS, UM, GOING FROM R SEVEN FIVE TO AND F TWO, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO IN CASES WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING FROM R 75 TO MF TWO, ARE YOU SAYING THEY WON'T HAVE A ZONING CONSULTATION? NO.
THERE'S A ZONING CON FOR REQUESTING THE ZONING CHANGE.
THERE'S A, THERE'S THE CONSULTATION AND ALL THAT.
UH, TODAY FOR SBA 40 CONSULTATIONS.
AGAIN, THAT'S MORE IF YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL SITE, A RETAIL DISTRICT, ET CETERA, WHERE SOMEONE SAYS, HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO USE THE PART OF SBA 40 THAT SAYS I CAN BUILD MULTIFAMILY HERE.
WE SIT DOWN AND WE TELL THEM KIND OF BROAD LEVEL WHAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT BONUSES AND ENTITLEMENTS WOULD BE, AND WE ALSO
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ADVISE THEM ON THE THOUSAND FOOT SURVEY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THOSE CASES.UH, BUT THAT WOULDN'T BE RELEVANT HERE.
AND IF THIS IS IN THE AIRPORT, UM, ACCIDENTAL AREA, UM, THEN THEY WON'T BE OUT.
THAT'S AN EXCEPTION TO THE SBA 40.
I'LL SPEAK TO THAT REALLY QUICKLY.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I GOT CLARIFIED WITH MEGAN, THAT MULTIFAMILY IS PERMITTED THERE AND THAT THE WAY THE BILL WORKS IS IT REGULATES HOW WE CAN REGULATE MULTIFAMILY.
UM, IT ALSO LEGALIZES MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL ZONES.
SO THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT KIND OF ACTIONS BY THE BILL.
UM, SO THE INTERPRETATION THAT IS APPLIED AT PERMITTING IS THAT THE AIRPORT PROXIMITY DOES NOT CHANGE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF MULTIFAMILY BY THE BILL.
UM, THEY CHANGE THE, UH, COMMERCIAL LEGALIZATION.
SO IF THE LAND USE IS PERMITTED THERE, IT FOLLOWS THE EIGHT 40 DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
YEAH, I THINK ANOTHER WAY TO PUT IT, REGARDS THE AIRPORT.
ANOTHER WAY TO PUT IT SIMPLY IS EIGHT 40 SAYS TWO THINGS.
ONE, WHERE YOU CAN BUILD, AND TWO, HOW YOU CAN BUILD THE, WHERE IS SUBJECT TO THAT AIRPORT EXCLUSION ZONE, BUT THE, HOW THAT IS NOT AFFECTED BY THE AIRPORT EXCLUSION.
SO, BUT R 75, YOU CANNOT BILL MF TWO BY, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UH, COMMISSIONER HALL ON, ON THE, UH, LOOKS LIKE ON THE WEST, EXCUSE ME, THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THERE'S A LARGE WOODED AREA.
IS THERE GONNA BE ANY REQUIREMENT THAT PART OF THOSE WOODS, OR AT LEAST THE TREES REMAIN AS A BUFFER BETWEEN MULTIFAMILY AND THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE WEST? YEAH.
UH, THAT WOULD BE JUST GOVERNED UNDER ARTICLE 10 LANDSCAPING.
UH, ARTICLE 10 REQUIRES EITHER PRES PRESERVATION OR MITIGATION OF TREES.
UH, SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A SITE, I, I, I'M NOT A TOTAL ARTICLE 10 EXPERT, BUT GENERALLY IF YOU HAVE A SITE WITH EXISTING TREES, YOU EITHER HAVE TO RETAIN THEM OR IF YOU'RE TAKING THEM DOWN FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING SOMETHING, UH, LET'S SAY IF YOU HAD TREES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, RIGHT.
UH, YOU WOULD NEED TO DO SOME SORT OF MITIGATION THERE THROUGH, I THINK, REPLANTING OF, UH, THE TREES THAT ARE TAKEN DOWN, UH, EITHER ON THE SITE OR I THINK SOMETIMES YOU CAN DO AN OFFSITE, UH, OPTION AS WELL.
UH, BUT I WOULD NEED TO DIG INTO THE DETAILS A LITTLE MORE ON THAT ONE.
I DON'T, UH, SPEND AS MUCH TIME IN ARTICLE TED AS I OUGHT TO, I THINK.
COMMISSIONER HALL, ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON, UM, CASE NUMBER 10? I, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING NOTIFICATIONS.
I, I SEE ROUGHLY 60 PEOPLE WERE NOTIFIED.
CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER WAS THERE ANY OPPOSITION AND WHERE IS THAT IN THE CASE REPORT? BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT.
UH, WELL, I KNOW THAT WE DID RECEIVE SOME OPPOSITION.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UH, MR. PEPPY, I THINK HAS THE, UH, THE PACKET, UH, HANDY.
UH, FOR THE CASE REPORT, WE TYPICALLY PUT TOGETHER ON THE CPC REPORT, UM, SINCE WE, SO WE PUBLISH THE CPC REPORT BEFORE, WE HAVE DONE A FALSE TABULATION OF THE RESPONSE FORMS. UH, AS SUCH, WHAT WE HAVE ON THE REPORT IS SIMPLY THE NOTIFICATION MAP THAT SHOWS THE RADIUS, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THAT RADIUS, AND THE LIST OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WOULD RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION.
UH, WHEN WE TAKE THE CASE TO COUNCIL, THAT'S WHERE THE REPORT IS UPDATED TO SHOW THE RESPONSES THAT WERE RECEIVED, UM, FOR THE CPC HEARING AND ANYTHING BETWEEN THAT.
AND, UH, WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL.
UH, BUT GENERALLY THE REPORTS ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE UP-TO-DATE, UH, UH, RESPONSE FORMS. I DON'T THINK WE GENERALLY UPDATE THOSE FOR UNDER ADVISEMENTS, DO WE? NN NOT, NO.
THE UNDER ADVISEMENT CASES? YEAH.
SO WE HAVE A RESPONSE DEADLINE THAT IS AS ABOUT AS LATE AS FEASIBLY POSSIBLE TO GET AS MANY RESPONSES.
AND THAT'S LATE ON WEDNESDAY, YESTERDAY.
UM, SO I WILL SAY THAT MOST OF OUR PLANNERS ARE NOT GONNA HAVE TIME OR ACCESS TO REVIEW THE RESPONSE PACKET.
UM, SO THEY WON'T ALWAYS HAVE THESE ANSWERS.
I HAVE IT OPEN 'CAUSE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I WOULD SAY JUST CHECK YOUR EMAIL ON, IS IT THE, UH, IT'S KIND OF THE AFTERNOON BEFORE, SO IT'S USUALLY THE AFTERNOON.
AS SOON AS WE GET THOSE COUNTED, AS SOON AS WE GET THEM MAPPED, WE DO SEND THEM OUT, UM, WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.
BUT BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE HOURS THERE BETWEEN THE PLANNER THAT GOING OUT AND THE PLANNER, UM, GETTING READY FOR COMMISSION, THEY USUALLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT.
BUT, UM, OUR ADMIN AT THE FRONT, UM, WHO HAVE COUNTED THEM, HAVE TAKEN A LOOK.
SO PLEASE DO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT EMAIL, UM, TO HAVE THAT.
BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE PART OF THE CASE REPORT.
'CAUSE THE CASE REPORT IS SIGNIFICANTLY EARLIER THAN THAT.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE RESPONSES IN THE BOOKS.
AND AGAIN, THE QUESTION WAS NOT INTENDED TO, TO BE CRITICAL OF STAFF.
I THINK I CAN USE THAT EXCUSE FOR MAYBE ANOTHER MEETING OR TWO, BUT THANK YOU.
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I THINK IT WAS SEVEN IN OPPOSITION.I KNOW IT SOMEWHERE IN THE, IT'S IN THE ZONING, THE HIGH, THE DOCUMENTS, TITLE ZONING PACKET.
AS OF, UH, AS OF YESTERDAY, AFTERNOON, ZERO AND SEVEN, ZERO IN FAVOR.
UM, VICE CHAIR HAMPTON, YOU HAD A QUESTION? I I HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
SO IF, IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING THE ZONING PACKET OUT LIKE THREE O'CLOCK, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE INSTANCES WHERE WE'RE GETTING NOTIFICATIONS, UH, UH, BACK THAT COME IN AFTER YOU'VE CREATED THIS PACKET, YOU KNOW, AND THAT WE'RE NOT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, AWARE OF WHEN, WHEN IT GETS YEAH, IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE THAT WE RECEIVE ONE AT 4, 4 55, UM, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE LONG-TERM RECORD.
IT WILL GET ONTO THE HELD, SO THIS CASE WAS HELD.
UM, IT, I DON'T ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW IF IT GOT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME DELTA BETWEEN THOSE TWO MEETINGS, BUT WE DID RUN A REPORT YESTERDAY, AGAIN, TO DOUBLE CHECK IF ANYTHING NEW HAD BEEN RECEIVED OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO IF SOMETHING COMES AFTER THAT LATE WEDNESDAY DEADLINE, SO IT'S LATE, LATE WEDNESDAY OR EARLY THURSDAY, YOU KNOW, THIS MORNING, UM, IT'LL BE PART OF THE LONG-TERM RECORD.
IT'LL BE CAPTURED IN A HOLD RECOUNT.
IT'LL BE PART OF THE COUNCIL RECORD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT CASE? THANK YOU.
HEARING, UH, THANK YOU MARTIN.
UM, WE'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE BRIEFING ONE DAY.
MARTIN, YOU BACK UP? UH, ANY NEED FOR A BRIEFING ON THIS ONE? NO.
DID I SKIP ONE? OH, THE SCHOOL.
DID WE EVER WANNA GO BACK TO DISTRICT SEVEN? YES.
UM, SO THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, CASE 12.
IT NEEDS TO BE READVERTISED AS A PD AMENDMENT AND NOT AS A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE.
DO YOU HAVE A DATE OF WE? JANUARY.
UM, UH, THAT'S IT FOR OUR CONSENT DOCKET.
WELL, NO, I'M, I'M, I'M CONFUSED.
UM, ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL CASE IS NUMBER 13.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? NO.
SO THAT, UM, CONCLUDES OUR BRIEFING OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
UM, WE WILL RECESS AND RECONVENE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AT ONE O'CLOCK.
UM, AND THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER WHEELER GOT HERE AT 10:12 AM THANK YOU.
[CALL TO ORDER]
LET'S GET STARTED.EVERYBODY, UH, THE CALL, THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION WILL NOW RESUME OUR MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE SECRETARY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER SIMS, DISTRICT TWO.
PRESENT, DISTRICT THREE, VICE CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT? DISTRICT NINE.
COMMISSIONER COX? PRESENT? DISTRICT 12.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBIN.
[Additional Item]
I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOTION TO, UM, DESIGNATE, UH, VICE CHAIR AND, UM, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON HAS VOLUNTEERED IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION.UM, MOVED BY COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT.
THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR JOINING US.
UM, IF YOU'RE HERE AND ARE GOING TO SPEAK AND HAVE NOT REGISTERED ONLINE, COULD YOU COME DOWN AND SIGN ONE OF THE YELLOW CARDS WITH YOUR INFORMATION? UM,
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ALSO, WHEN THE TIME TO SPEAK, I'LL REITERATE, UM, WHEN YOU COME UP TO THE MIC TO SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.UM, GETTING STARTED, COMMISSIONERS WILL NOW ADDRESS THE CONSENT AGENDA, AS NOTED, THIS MORNING CASES FOR, OH, BEFORE WE GET TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, LET'S DEAL WITH THE MISCELLANEOUS ZONING ITEM.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
OF THE MINUTES.MR. HALL, MR. CHAIR? I DO, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025 MEETING AS POSTED.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR YOUR SECOND.
OH, CAN WE, UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM ON THE MINUTES? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST CITY PLAN COMMISSION, SAY AYE.
[1. 25-3477A An application for a waiver of the two-year waiting period to submit a zoning application on property zoned A(A) Agricultural District on the west of Cedar Ridge Drive, north of west Red Bird Lane. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Dixie Sedgwick Planner: Teaseia Blue, MBA Council District: 3 CPR-25-001516]
ITEM NUMBER ONE, UM, MS. BLUE.ITEM NUMBER ONE IS CPR DASH 25 DASH 0 0 15 16.
IT'S A APPLICATION FOR A WAIVER OF THE TWO YEAR WAITING PERIOD TO SUBMIT A ZONING APPLICATION ON PROPERTY ZONE AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE WEST, ON THE WEST OF CEDAR RIDGE ROAD, NORTH OF WEST, UH, RED BIRD LANE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
ARE THERE ANY, UH, QUESTION OR EXCUSE ME, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I HAVE A MOTION ON CASE, UH, CPR 2 5 0 0 1 516.
I MOVE TO, UM, KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS CASE UNTIL JANUARY 15TH.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THERE'S A, OH, EXCUSE ME.
DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? WE HAVE A SPEAKER.
IF YOU CAN PLEASE START WITH YOUR SPEAKER.
AND IF YOU HAVE, UM, THERE'S A SPEAKER CARD, IF YOU'LL PLEASE REMOVE THAT.
AND IF YOU'LL BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
I DON'T THINK YOUR MICROPHONE'S ON.
COULD YOU SEE IF THERE'S A LITTLE GREEN BUTTON? IS THIS THERE? WE, YES.
JIM SEDGWICK, 5,500 CEDAR RIDGE DRIVE DALLAS.
UM, WE MET COUNCIL GRACIE AT THE PROPERTY TO SEE WITH HIS OWN EYES THAT THE WATER RUNOFF IS NOT ON OUR PROPERTY.
THE ISSUE, IN FACT, IT'S ABOUT 80 FEET AWAY.
HE AGREED AND SAID, THERE'S NO REASON WHY THIS CASE SHOULD BE DENIED TOMORROW.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET COUNCILMAN DARRELL HERBERT THERE TO VERIFY THIS WITH HIS OWN EYES AS WELL.
UM, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY SLOPES AT 310 FEET IN LENGTH, AND IT ALL SLOPES DOWN TO THE STREET WHERE THERE ARE LARGE CULVERTS THAT DRAIN INTO A VERY LARGE CREEK.
ONE OF THE LARGEST CREEK BEDS IN, IN OAK CLIFF.
IT'S NEARLY 20 FEET DEEP, AND I'VE NEVER SEEN IT WITH MORE THAN TWO FEET OF WATER IN IT.
MOST OF THE BRIGGS ESTATE, MR. BRIGGS, IS WHO WE BROUGHT THE PROPERTY FROM, HAS BEEN DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS.
ORIGINALLY, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 25 ACRES RIGHT NEXT TO THE BOY SCOUT CAMP, UH, IN OAK CLIFF, SOUTHWEST OAK CLIFF, IF ANYONE'S FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
UH, THE BRIGGS STILL OWNED 10 ACRES, UH, BEHIND US, WE PURCHASED A PROPERTY FROM MR. BRIGGS, HIS GOOD FRIEND.
HE WAS GOING TO BUILD AND BE A NEIGHBOR ON MR. BRIGGS PROPERTY ESTATE.
UH, THE DOCTOR WAS ELDERLY AND SOLD THE PROPERTY TO US AFTER MR. BRIGGS PASSED AWAY.
AT THE TIME, WE LIVED ABOUT 15 HOUSES DOWN FROM MR. BRIGGS, AND HE WOULD WALK DOWN THE STREET, KNOCK ON DOORS AND SAY HELLO.
UH, ALWAYS HAD CANDY FOR OUR BOYS, UH, JUST A GREAT PERSON WITH, AND HE HAD A LARGE PROPERTY THAT WAS VERY CLOSE TO US, AND I HAD QUESTIONED HIM ONCE BEFORE IF HE WAS INTERESTED IN SELLING IN THE PROPERTY.
BUT, UM, ANYHOW, I, WE WOUND UP BUYING HIS BEST FRIEND'S PROPERTY, WHICH SITS ON THE FRONT OF THE, OF THE 10 ACRES OF THE, OF THE BRIGGS ESTATE.
UM, THEY OWN THE LAND IN QUESTION THAT POTENTIALLY HAS A RUNOFF ISSUE.
IT, IT APPEARS TO BE A SMALL POND.
IT'S PROBABLY 50 BY 50 IN ITS DIMENSIONS.
I'VE NEVER SEEN IT WITH WATER IN
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IT.IN FACT, I'VE NEVER SEEN WATER ANYWHERE BECAUSE THE ENTIRE THING IS NOTHING BUT A HILL.
UM, WE HAVE SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN ARCHITECTURAL FEES DESIGNING A MID-CENTURY MODERN WITH A ROOFTOP GARDEN.
NEVER ONCE HAS WATER EVEN BEEN AN ISSUE.
NO ONE'S EVEN LOOKED AT IT TWICE.
AND, UH, IT, IT'S JUST A NON-ISSUE.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS ITEM ONE ON THE MISCELLANEOUS ZONING.
ANY SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION? OKAY.
SO WE WILL RESTART THIS CHAIR.
HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REFRAME MY MOTION, UM, IN THE CASE OF CPR 2 5 0 5 1 6.
I MOVE TO APPROVE, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THIS CASE AS, UM, PRESENTED TODAY.
AND WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR HERBERT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.
ANY DISCUSSION? YES, REALLY BRIEFLY.
THANK YOU, SIR, FOR BEING HERE.
YOU AND YOUR WIFE HAVE BEEN, UM, TREMENDOUS IN GETTING INFORMATION, UM, AND, UH, GETTING CONTACT.
I AM STILL LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT TOUR OF THE PROPERTY.
BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK, GETTING THIS DONE AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THERE WERE SOME COMMUNICATION ISSUES WE'VE IMPROVED ON THAT YOU'VE MET WITH EVERYBODY AND DONE WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THIS CASE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED? ONE OPPOSED.
[Zoning Cases - Consent]
NOW WE WILL GET STARTED ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA.UM, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, OUR CONSENT AGENDA WILL CONSIST OF CASES 2, 3, 7, AND EIGHT CASES.
FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX HAVE BEEN PULLED.
I BELIEVE THAT IT'S BEEN REQUESTED TO COME OFF.
UH, UM, CARPENTER REQUESTED IT OFF.
SO AGAIN, I'LL RESTATE FOR THE RECORD, UH, CASES FOUR, FIVE AND SIX HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A SINGLE MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT SIX HAS BEEN PULLED AND THE REASON WHY I, I'M INTENDING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I IS, IS THAT THE REASON? YES.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE HOLDING UNTIL JANUARY, BUT YOU THE MOTION, I THOUGHT I NEEDED TO DO IT AS PART OF THIS PROCEEDING RATHER THAN THE BRIEF.
AGAIN, IT'S THAT NEWBIE THING.
I, I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE.
UM, SO AGAIN, I MOVE, I MEAN, I WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A SINGLE MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ALL REMAINING ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MR. CHAIR, WE'RE GONNA READ THEM INTO THE RECORD AFTER, AFTER THEY'RE READ INTO THE RECORD.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND APPROVE THE CON FOLLOWING CONSENT ITEMS SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, UM, COMMISSIONER HALL STAFF IS GONNA READ 'EM INTO THE RECORD FIRST AND THEN YOU'LL MAKE THE MOTION OH, I'M SORRY.
STAFF BEFORE YOU READ THEM INTO THE, WELL, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, ITEM TWO IS Z 2 5 0 0 0 9 1.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 1262 FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 8 0 3 ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ROSA ROAD AND MIDWAY ROAD.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL OTHER THAN A NO ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONE.
MF TWO A MULTIFAMILY SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
THIS SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT IN AN AREA BOUND BY MALCOLM X BOULEVARD PARK, ROW AVENUE JEFFREY STREET.
IN AL LIPSCOMB WAY, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU MR. IS IT SEVEN AND EIGHT? YES.
SEVEN IS, UM, Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 OH.
IT'S AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE SITE PLAN FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 40 FOR COMMERCIAL ONE USES
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ON PROPERTY ZONED R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF KEA DRIVE, NORTHEAST OF PV ROAD STAFF.RECOMMENDATIONS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND EIGHT Z 2 4 5 2 1 15 SLASH TWO Z 2 5 39.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT AND COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT OF GARAGE USES.
AND TWO, A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE, UH, EXCUSE ME, COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT OR GARAGE USES ON PROPERTY ZONE MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF VIRGINIA AVENUE AND SOUTHWEST LINE OF NORTH FITZ HUE AVENUE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF A, A, UH, ONE, A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND TWO, A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT OR GARAGE USES FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AS DISTRIBUTED IN CONDITIONS.
AND THAT'S THE CONSENT AGENDA.
LAST ITEM, SUBJECT TO A REVISED SITE PLAN IS CIRCULATED.
NOW THAT, UM, OUR CONSENT AGENDA HAS BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD, UM, WE WOULD NOW OPEN UP, UM, THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY OF THE ITEMS. JUST READ INTO THE CONSIDERED AGENDA.
IS ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON OR AGAINST? UH, FOR OR AGAINST THE, THE ITEMS READ INTO THE AGENDA.
JUST SEEING NONE, UM, WE'LL TAKE A MOTION.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND APPROVE THE FOLLOWING CONSENT ITEMS SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS READ INTO THE RECORD.
IT UH, CAN WE GET A SECOND? WHO'S THAT? I HEARD IT, BUT, OKAY.
SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION THE QUESTION? NO.
OH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENTED ITEMS? NO DISCUSSION.
[4. 25-3480A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for Commercial Motor Vehicle Parking on property zoned CS Commercial Service District with SUP 890 for a radio, television, or microwave tower, on the southwest line of S. Central Expy., between Youngblood Road and Lyndon B. Johnson Fwy. Staff Recommendation: Approval a 10-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional ten-year periods, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Masterplan - Andrew Ruegg Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 8 Z-25-000152]
ON TO OUR, UM, CONSENT ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA, BEGINNING WITH CASE NUMBER 2, 4 4, WRONG LIST.I'LL READ IT IN THE REC, I'LL READ IT IN THE RECORD REALLY QUICK.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING ON PROPERTIES ZONE CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT WITH SUP EIGHT 90 FOR A RADIO, TELEVISION, OR MICROWAVE TOWER ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY BETWEEN THE YOUNGBLOOD ROAD AND LBJ FREEWAY STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL 10 YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SPEAKERS? GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. RUEN.
UH, ANDREW RIG THIRTY THREE, THREE THREE WELLBORN.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS CASE WILL BE HELD UNDER THE ADVISEMENT.
UM, JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD THERE BE ANY.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ROOT? IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION ON THIS CASE? HEARING NONE.
CAN I GET A MOTION? YES, MR. CHAIR AND THE MATTER OF Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 5 2.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY 15TH, 2026.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN AND COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON, UM, THE MOTION TO HOLD? HEARING NONE.
UM, CAN I GET A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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MOVING ON[5. 25-3481A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a tower/antenna for cellular communication limited to a monopole cellular tower on property zoned RR Regional Retail District on the south line of E. Clarendon Dr., east of S. Beckley Ave. Staff Recommendation: Approval of a ten-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for additional ten-year periods, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Matt Kline [Hemphill, LLC] Representative: Ralph Wyngarden, Faulk & Foster Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 4 Z-25-000113]
TO CASE NUMBER FIVE.AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TOWER OR ANTENNA FOR CELLULAR COMMUNICATION.
LIMITED TO A MONOPOLE CELLULAR TOWER ON PROPERTY ZONED RR REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF EAST CLA DRIVE, EAST OF SOUTH BECKLEY AVENUE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF A 10 YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL 10 YEAR PERIODS SET TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? HEARING NONE.
CHAIRMAN IN THE MATTER OF CASE Z 25 0 0 0 1 1 3.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OF A 10 YEAR PERIOD WITHOUT ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL 10 YEAR PERIODS, SUBJECT TO SITE PLANS AND CONDITIONS.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR DISCUSSION? OH, SECONDED.
WE HAVE A FIRST, WE HAVE THE MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
CAN I GET ALL IN FAVOR? SAY AYE.
[6. 25-3488A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a public school other than an open-enrollment charter school on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the south line of Arapaho Road and the north line of La Cosa Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan, traffic management plan, and conditions. Applicant: Le Estes, Richardson ISD Representative: Karl Crawley, Masterplan Consultants Planner: Mona Hashemi Council District: 11 Z-25-000103]
CASE NUMBER SIX.AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL OTHER THAN AN OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONED R 7.5, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF ARAPAHO ROAD AND NORTH LINE OF LA COSA DRIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
I SEE WE HAVE MR. CROWLEY HERE TO SPEAK.
I HAVE TROUBLE REMEMBERING IT TOO ON OCCASION
I'M USING THAT EXCUSE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE TOO.
UH, REPRESENTING THE RICHON ISD UM, UH, COMMISSIONER AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.
UH, COUNCIL, WE, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS CASE.
WE UNDERSTAND IT'S GONNA GET HELD.
UM, IN THE LAST PROBABLY WEEK OR SO, WE'VE, UH, HAD TWO OR THREE MEETINGS WITH DAVID NAVARRES AND WE'RE WORKING OUT SOME CHANGES TO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT JUST CAME UP TODAY, CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT, THAT I HAD NOT HEARD.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK TOWARDS THOSE AND, UH, I THINK WE'RE, I'D LOVE TO SAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE EVERYONE IN SUPPORT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT NOT PROBABLY GONNA BE REALITY, BUT, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO BUILDING A NEW SCHOOL THERE, THAT'S FOR SURE.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS HERE IN, UM, FAVOR? ANY SPEAKERS? IN PERSON THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION? WE HAVE A FEW ONLINE.
UM, SYLVIE HOBERT IS FIRST HOBERT AND SHE'S, SHE'S LOADED.
MS. SYLVIE, ARE YOU THERE? OKAY, I THINK WE CAN HEAR YOU, BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOU PASSING TO FREE AND THE GALLERY.
SO IDEALLY THEY WOULD JUST GO DOWN.
I'M SORRY, MS. SYLVIE, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, CAN YOU CUT ON YOUR CAMERA AND, UM, BEGIN SPEAKING? START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
OKAY, MS. SYLVIA, I'LL LET YOU WORK ON THE TECHNOLOGY.
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OKAY.CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU MR. STEINBERG, BUT WE CAN'T SEE YOU.
CAN YOU CUT ON YOUR CAMERA? UH, YES, I BELIEVE SO.
GO AHEAD AND BEGIN YOUR COMMENT.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, I LIVE AT, OH, I LIVE AT, UH, 7 7 0 5 LA COSA DRIVE, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPOSED SCHOOL.
CAN YOU BEGIN YOUR COMMENTS? YES.
AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S, UH, VALUABLE TIME HERE.
I, UH, I HAPPEN TO BE THE HOME, UH, CLOSEST TO THE PROPOSED SCHOOL.
AND, UM, I MOVED IN, UH, NEARLY 20 YEARS AGO, NEXT DOOR TO A PARK, AS DID ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE ON THE EAST AND SOUTH SIDE OF THIS SCHOOL PROPERTY.
UM, ONE OF THE, THAT WAS THE APPEAL OF MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE ENJOYED SUNSET, VIEWS, PEACE AND TRANQUILITY, AND MY KIDS ENJOYED THE PARK NEXT DOOR.
THIS PROPOSED PLAN IS LIFE CHANGING BECAUSE, UH, MY HOME WILL BE NEXT DOOR TO A THREE STORY BUILDING.
IN FACT, UH, PEOPLE ON THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR WILL, COULD POSSIBLY EVEN LOOK AT WATCH ME IN MY SHOWER.
UH, NEITHER ME OR NOR THE DOZENS OF NEIGHBORS, UH, WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PLAN WERE GIVEN ANY OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS.
WE ONLY HEARD ABOUT THIS, UH, PROJECT ABOUT LITTLE OVER TWO MONTHS AGO WHEN THEY POSTED THE ZONING CHANGE SIGNS.
AND WE'VE HEARD LATER THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR NEARLY SEVEN YEARS, WE BELIEVE, AND WE FEEL STRONGLY THAT THE, UH, RICHARDSON SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH, WITH TOTAL LACK OF TRANSPARENCY ON THIS DEAL.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I FEEL STRONGLY THAT IF THE ZONING COMMISSION DOES NOT ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE OUR INPUT, UM, THIS TON OF DIRT WILL BE ON YOUR HANDS AS WELL.
UH, THIS WILL HAVE DECADES OF IMPACT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MR. STEINBERG.
UM, I'LL GO BACK UP TO MS. SYLVIE HOBERT.
IS HE ONLINE? OH, ANOTHER CASE.
THAT, SO THAT ENDS OUR COMMENTS, UM, FOR THIS CASE, RIGHT? NOBODY ELSE? OKAY.
YES, MR. CROWLEY, DO YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL? NO REBUTTAL.
DO WE HAVE, UM, A MOTION ON THIS CASE? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
REGARDING CASE NUMBER Z DASH 25 0 0 0 1 0 3.
I MOVE THIS, UH, THAT THIS MATTER BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY 15TH, 2026.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN.
SO THE CASE WILL BE HELD TILL JANUARY 15TH.
UM, SO WE HAVE A, UH, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND THE SECOND, CAN WE GET A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR? STAFF.
ANY DISCUSSION? JUST TO POINT OUT, I THINK YOU HEARD MOST OF IT THIS MORNING DURING THE BRIEFING.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION GOING ON RIGHT NOW BETWEEN THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, THE APPLICANT, UH, BEING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CERTAINLY THE RESIDENTS, UH, THEY'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, WITH ME FROM A COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE AND ALSO IN TOUCH WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.
UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE, WE SEEM TO BE MAKING SOME HEADWAY ON ISSUES THAT HAVE, HAVE COME UP.
AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT WITHIN THE NEXT THREE, FOUR WEEKS WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE AND, UH, GET A VOTE ON THIS NEXT, UH, IN JANUARY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE? HEARING NONE, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.
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AYES HAVE IT.[9. 25-3484A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit 2480 for the sale of alcoholic beverages, on property zoned CR Community Retail District with D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the northeast corner of Kleberg Road and Carleta Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: SAI KBA LAXMI, Inc. Representative: Elizabeth Alvarez Villaizan U/A From: November 6, 2025. Planner: Jordan Gregory Council District: 8 Z234-183 / Z-25-000115]
GO TO OUR, UM, ZONING CASES UNDER ADVISEMENT, STARTING WITH CASE NUMBER NINE.ITEM NUMBER NINE IS Z 2 3 4 180 3 SLASH Z 2 500 115.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT.
UH, 2 24 80 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BURG ROAD AND CARLETTA STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OPPOSITION ON THIS ITEM? NO.
ANYONE ONLINE? NOT THIS CASE, NO.
HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
YES, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 1 5.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY 15TH, 2026.
IF I GET A SECOND, I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK NOTE.
CAN WE GET A SECOND? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COS FOR YOUR SECOND, UH, ANY DISCUSSION? YES.
UH, JUST REAL QUICKLY, UH, WE WILL HAVE FINAL DISPOSITION OF THIS ON JANUARY THE 15TH, 2026.
I WILL, WE'RE HAVING A COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, THIS EVENING BEFORE THIS PARTICULAR SUP.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR 18 MONTHS OR THEY'RE SEEKING AN AMENDMENT, UH, FOR IT TO BE PERMANENT.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS AROUND IT, A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING, BUT I WANT TO GET THE, UH, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, UH, THIS EVENING AND WE WILL HAVE A FINAL DIS POSITION AND BEGIN PART NEXT YEAR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK COMMISSIONER.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE? HEARING NONE.
ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.
[10. 25-3485A An application for MF-2(A) Multifamily District on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the west line of South Cockrell Hill Road, south of Barstow Boulevard. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Michele Ann Turnquist Exempt Trust Representative: Michael Coker U/A From: November 6, 2025. Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 3 Z234-225 / Z-25-000147]
10, UM, Z 2 3 4 180 3.UH, THIS SLASH Z TWO FIVE OH, EXCUSE ME, I READ THE WRONG ONE.
UH, Z 2 34 2 25 SLASH Z 2 5 1 47.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN MF TWO MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON THE PROPERTY ZONED R SEVEN 50, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE WEST LINE OF C**K SOUTH COCKLE HILL ROAD, SOUTH OF BARSTOW BOULEVARD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE? CASE NUMBER 10.
SEEING NONE, NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YES, IN THE CASE IN THE CASE OF NUMBER, UH, CASE NUMBER Z 2 3 4 DASH 2 25 SLASH Z 2 500 0 1 4 7.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS CASE TILL JANUARY 15TH.
THANK YOU, UH, CHAIR HERBERT FOR YOUR MOTION.
UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND COMMENTS, UH, QUICKLY, UH, YES, THIS IS, UM, A CASE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S A VERY DENSE PROJECT, UM, IN THE, IN, IN THE THOROUGHFARE THAT HAS SOME MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S FAIR AND CORRECT.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE APPLICANT HAS MADE SOME COMPROMISES ON WHAT HE'S ASKING, BUT THOSE COMPROMISES CAME IN THE NIGHT BEFORE THIS MEETING AND WE'LL HAVE, NEED SOME TIME TO REVIEW, UM, THAT CASE.
UM, HEARING THAT, UH, I'LL ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? SEE NONE.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR HERBERT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY THE 15TH.
[11. 25-3489A An application for an amendment to add the sale of alcoholic beverages to Specific Use Permit 2441 for a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service on property zoned NO(A) Neighborhood Office District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the south line of Bruton Road, east of Pleasant Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to amended conditions. Applicant: Rosalba Betancourt Garcia & Noe Moises Santoyo [Sole Owners] U/A From: November 20, 2025. Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 5 Z-25-000119]
UH, MOVING ON TO CASE NUMBER 11, MR. BATE.ITEM 11 IS CASE Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 1 9.
AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO ADD THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES TO THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
2, 4, 4, 1 FOR A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE, A DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE NA NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF BRITON ROAD EAST OF PLEASANT DRIVE STAFF'S.
RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE AS YOU COME DOWN? SIR, IF YOU HAVEN'T REGISTERED, BE SURE TO FILL OUT THE YELLOW FORM.
UM, AND LEAVE WITH US AND START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
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AND I'M THE OWNER FOR THE RESTAURANT.AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE SUP AND I ANSWER ANY KIND OF YOU HAVE FOR ME.
ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER? HEARING, HEARING NONE? I'LL TAKE, UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER E 25 0 0 0 109, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE SUP FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL 10 YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
COMMISSIONER SODO FOR YOUR, UM, FIRST AND COMMISSIONER WILLER FOR YOUR SECOND.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, UM, I HAD, MY PREVIOUS CONCERNS WITH THE PROPERTY WAS THAT IT WAS ACROSS THE STREET FROM A CHARTER SCHOOL.
I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK TO, UM, THE SUPERINTENDENT AT THIS CHARTER SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, HE SUPPORTS THE BUSINESS OWNER AND I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH A LOVELY FAMILY THAT OWNS THE RESTAURANT AND KIND OF HEAR ABOUT THEIR FIVE PLUS YEAR LONG JOURNEY TO GET THIS RESTAURANT OPEN.
AND SO, UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF, UH, THIS BUSINESS AND ITS SUCCESS.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER? UM, I'M IN SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE MOTION, BUT I AM CONCERNED WITH THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL BECAUSE IT GOES WITH THE LAND USE, UM, FOR THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE.
AND SO, UM, THAT CONCERN, UM, OR IS THERE, AND SO IF, AM I RIGHT, IF JUST SO HAPPENED, IF THIS PARTICULAR LAND OWNER MOVES OUT, THIS PARTICULAR PROP, UM, BUSINESS OWNER MOVES OUT AND A NEW BUSINESS COMES IN, THAT GOES THE LAND THAT SUP GOES WITH THE LAND? AM I CORRECT? SO MY CONCERN IS THAT IS CORRECT.
THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL WILL HIT SUCH A LONG 10 YEAR PERIOD, UM, RATHER THAN LIKE MAYBE FIVE.
AND NOT TO SAY THAT THEIR BUSINESS IS GONNA CLOSE, HOPEFULLY THEY'RE THERE FOREVER.
BUT IF SOMETHING WAS TO OCCUR, UM, AND THEY'RE NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER ALREADY, THAT 10 YEAR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL CAN GO TO THE NEXT PERSON AND THEY MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD ACTOR.
IS THAT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL PORTION, NOT THE ACTUAL 10, UM, WITH THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL AND IT'S NO GIST TO THE CURRENT OWNERS, IT'S BECAUSE IT GOES WITH THE LAND.
UM, MY, UM, PURPOSE OR MY REASON FOR GOING WITH THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL WAS BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, A MOM AND POP SHOP OWNED VISITS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT GOES WITH THE, WITH THE LAND AND NOT WITH THE OWNER.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M OPEN TO THE IDEA OF LIKE HAVING TO INSTEAD OF AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, HAVING TO REAPPLY AFTER THE 10 YEARS.
SO, SO THE, THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION IS FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD, NO AUTOMATIC RENEWAL? YES, CORRECT.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
[12. 25-3501A An application for 1) Medium Commercial / Office Subdistrict and 2) a new Specific Use Permit for a car wash on property zoned Light Commercial/Office Area 1 Subdistrict within Planned Development District 631, the West Davis Special Purpose District, on the northwest corner of Tatum Avenue and W. Davis Street. Staff Recommendation: Denial of 1) Medium Commercial / Office Subdistrict and denial of 2) a new Specific Use Permit for a car wash on property zoned Light Commercial/Office Area 1 Subdistrict. Applicant: Sameer Mohammed, Nanu Construction Inc U/A From: November 20, 2025. Planner: Michael V. Pepe Council District: 6 Z-25-000134]
12.CASE NUMBER 12 IS Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 34.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR ONE MEDIUM COMMERCIAL OFFICE SUBDISTRICT AND TWO, A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR CAR WASH ON PROPERTY ZONE L UH, EXCUSE ME, LIGHT COMMERCIAL OFFICE AREA ONE SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PD 6 31, THE WEST DAVIS SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF TATUM AVENUE AND WEST DAVIS STREET STAFF.
ONE OF A MEDIUM COMMERCIAL OFFICE.
TWO OF A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH ON PROPERTY ZONE, LIGHT COMMERCIAL OFFICE AREA.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN CASE NUMBER Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 1 34.
I MOVE TO HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JANUARY 15TH, 2026 AND DIRECT STAFF TO RE ADVERTISE THE CASE TO INCLUDE CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING PD 6 31 TRACK A ONE WITHIN THE LIGHT COMMERCIAL OFFICE AREA.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FORSYTH FOR YOUR SECOND.
COMMISSIONER HALL? UH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY
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IS ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? BECAUSE THE OTHER THREE CORNERS OF THIS BUSY CLOSE CLOVERLEAF HAVE ALREADY HAS QUITE A BIT OF RETAIL? I'M SORRY, I WAS GETTING CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION.WELL, COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION REALLY QUICK? YEAH.
THE, THE OTHER THREE CORNERS OF THIS BIG CLOVERLEAF INTERSECTION HAS A LOT OF RETAIL AND GAS STATIONS, ET CETERA, AUTO REPAIRS AND SO FORTH.
UH, IS THE REASON FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION DENIAL DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS LOT IS ADJACENT IMMEDIATELY TO SINGLE FAMILY? THANK YOU.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, YES, SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT IS IT'S DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO, UH, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
IT IS IN THE FORWARD DALLAS PLACE TYPE IT IS, UM, THE PLACE TYPE IS NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE GENERALLY BEING, UM, SMALLER SCALE BUSINESSES AND INTENSITY BUSINESSES THAT SERVE IN NEIGHBORHOOD, NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE, UM, UH, FUNCTION.
SO PEOPLE WALKING FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THERE WHERE THERE'S SMALLER BUILDINGS WITH, UH, RESIDENTIAL THAT ARE OF A SMALLER SCALE.
AGAIN, NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE.
UH, WE ALREADY FIND THAT'S PRETTY WELL ENABLED UNDER THE, UM, EXISTING ZONING.
WE'VE GOT ONE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SITE WHEN WE'RE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AND FOR THAT PLACE TYPE.
SO, UH, STAFF FOUND EXISTING ZONING, UH, HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD FOR THE LONG TERM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OF ONE KIND RIGHT NOW ALONG THE WEST DAVIS CORRIDOR, UM, UH, AND, AND, AND AS WELL AS THE, THE BROADER NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BUT WITH THE VISION BEING NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE, WE THINK WE'RE ALREADY THERE WITH THE ZONING AND, AND THAT LEAVES SOMETHING OF, UH, UH, ABILITY IN PLACE TO ACHIEVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FOUR BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FORESIGHT.
ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT.
[13. 25-3486A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit 1905 for a late-hours establishment limited to a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service use on property zoned Planned Development District 842, on the west line of Greenville Avenue, south of Sears Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to staff’s recommended conditions. Applicant: Sammy Mandell, Greenville Avenue Pizza Co Planner: Michael Pepe Council District: 14 Z-25-000180]
MOVING ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL CASE FOR TODAY.NUMBER 13, 13 IS Z TWO ONE, EXCUSE ME, Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 8 0.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 1905 FOR A LATE HOURS PER ESTABLISHMENT, LIMITED TO A RE RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVING OR DRAFTING SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE.
UH, PD 8 42 ON THE WEST LINE IN GREENVILLE AVENUE, SOUTH OF SEARS STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? COME ON DOWN.
PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
HELLO, UH, JOHN FUSS ADDRESS, 6 1 2 2 COLLEGE WAY, UH, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 4 1.
UH, I'M HERE REPRESENTING, UH, GREENVILLE AVENUE, PETE'S COMPANY AND, UH, SAMMY, UH, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT, YOU, UH, MAY HAVE.
IS THERE ANY SPEAKERS, UM, HERE IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 5 0 0 0 1 8 0.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE SUBJECT TO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND CONDITIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT INSTEAD OF A PERMANENT SUP IT'D BE LIMITED TO FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTED.
AND I'M CONTINUING MY WAR ON PERMANENT SUVS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANY MORE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
[7. 25-3482A An application to amend the site plan for Specific Use Permit 40 for Commercial-1 Uses on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District on the southeast line of Cayuga Dr., northeast of Peavy Rd. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to amended site plan. Representative: Jon Nylund and Will Hillesheim, JCN Holdings LLC Planner: Mona Hashemi Council District: 2 Z-25-000110]
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECONSIDER CASE NUMBER SEVEN.UM, THERE WAS A SPEAKER THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION NOW.
IN THE MATTER OF AGENDA ITEM SEVEN, CASE NUMBER Z TWO 500, I MOVE TO RECONSIDER THE CASE.
THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT CASE RECONSIDERED.
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE IT READ INTO THE RECORD AGAIN? YES, PLEASE.
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CASE D 25 0 0 0 1 1 0.UH, AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE SITE PLAN FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE FOUR COMMERCIAL ONE USES ON PROPERTY ZONE R 7.5 SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF KGA DRIVE NORTHEAST OF PV ROAD STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED SITE PLAN.
WE'LL NOW ENTERTAIN SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE.
UH, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER ONLINE, MR. ROBERT FORD.
WE'RE READY FOR YOU WHEN YOU ARE.
MR. FORD, PLEASE, UM, MAKE SURE YOUR CAMERA'S ON AND BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
BRANDON, CAN YOU SEE HOW TURN MY CAMERA, UH, DO YOU HAVE MY MICROPHONE ON? WE GOT THE MICROPHONE.
WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE ME.
ALRIGHT, UM, HAVE SEVERAL ISSUES WITH IT.
ONE THAT THERE WAS IMPROPER SIGNAGE.
UM, MR. FORD, CAN YOU START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES, SIR.
AND I'M, I'M THE OWNER OF 1 0 0 3, 1 0 1 0 7 CAO.
YOU CAN BEGIN YOUR, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS.
UH, THERE'S BEEN IMPROPER SIGNAGE THERE.
THE SIGNS WERE PUT UP AND WALKED DOWN AND NOT PUT UP AGAIN UNTIL YESTERDAY.
SO NO, NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BE NOTIFIED, UH, MAILING NOTICES TO THE PEOPLE WENT OUT ON THE 21ST BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
I RECEIVED MY DECEMBER
MY MAIN CONCERN IS WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY AND WHAT PURPOSE OF ENCLOSING A 8,000 SQUARE FOOT AWNING MAKING IN A GARAGE UNDER A 7.5 ZONING.
UH, ALSO IT'S UNDER A SPECIFIC PERMIT 40, WHICH IN A LETTER TO THE CITY DATED APRIL 19TH, 1988, WAS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TELEPHONE COMPANY FACILITY OPERATED BY SOUTHWESTERN BELL.
NONE OF THIS IS, IS BEING ADHERE TO.
AND I'VE BEEN TOLD BY ZONING THAT, UH, BY CODE THAT THEY WOULD'VE TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND BY THREE, UH, CONSULTANTS THAT THEY WOULD'VE TO CHANGE THE ZONING, ANY KIND OF BUSINESS OUT OF THERE.
AND YET THEY'RE BEING ALLOWED TO GO UNDER A C ONE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SPECIFIC USE COMPANY, PHONE COMPANY.
SO I, I DON'T THINK, AND I'VE ASKED FOR A CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON THIS AND NEVER RECEIVED IT, BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS WITH MONA ON THIS FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.
UM, SO I I I'M AN OBJECTION TO IT AS IT STANDS.
UH, I DON'T THINK ALL THE RULES AND THE OF ZONING AND ALL THE RULES OF THE SPECIFIC USE ARE BEING FOLLOWED.
I'VE BEEN TOLD IT REVERTS BACK TO A 7.5 ZONING, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL.
THANK YOU MR. FORD FOR YOUR TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON A FOUR? UM, UM, FOR OR AGAINST THIS CASE? HEARING NONE.
UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN.
AND I, UM, HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER IF I HAVE A SECOND.
UM, MR. FORD, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH MR. HASHI OR MS. HASHIMI, EXCUSE ME.
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YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE USE AND THE UNDERLYING ZONING OF R SEVEN FIVE.UM, DID STAFF SHARE WITH YOU THAT WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY IS ONLY CONSIDERING THE AMENDED SITE PLAN? THAT THE UNDERLYING SUP, WHICH IS WHAT ALLOWS FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE, IT IS THE, THE USE OF A PARKING FACILITY THAT THEY'RE ENCLOSING THE SHED SIMPLY TO, UM, PROVIDE PROTECTION, UM, FOR THE PARKING THAT IS THERE, BUT IS STILL FUNDAMENTALLY BEING USED FOR PARKING.
DID UM, MISS HASHIMI SHARE THAT WITH YOU? NO.
AND THERE'S SEVERAL OUTDOOR PARKINGS.
IT'S NOT UNDER THE AWNING AREA.
THE AWNING AREA IS JUST A SERVICE DRIVE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ENCLOSE AND AS IF IT WERE A GARAGE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THERE'S AN 8,000 SQUARE FOOT GARAGE FIT IN WITH AN R 75 ZONING.
AND, AND I THINK THE, UM, SO IT IS CORRECT THAT THE R 75 ZONING WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS USE.
IT'S THE SUP THAT ALLOWS FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE AND THIS HAS, UM, BEEN IN PLACE SINCE THE 1950S.
UM, THE SITE PLAN AND THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU SEE, UM, DID YOU RECEIVE A COPY OF THAT SITE PLAN OR HAVE YOU SEEN THE CASE REPORT? NO.
UM, WELL, I THINK YOU HEARD THAT, UH, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED, UM, APPROVAL.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO BE IN CONTACT WITH YOU AND I'LL FOLLOW UP TO GET YOUR, UM, EMAIL, UM, AFTER THIS CASE.
UM, WE ARE A RECOMMENDING BODY.
THIS WILL MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, I'M IN CONTACT WITH YOU BEFORE THEN.
I THINK THE BIG DEFINITION IS WHETHER SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 40 IS JUST AS BROADLY ANYBODY SPECIFIC, BUT IT WAS APPLIED FOR AS A TELEPHONE COMPANY FACILITY.
AND THAT TO ME, IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, REFERS TO A LIMITATION OF THE SPECIFIC USE.
NOT A FRAUD USE, BUT A SPECIFIC THANK.
UM, HEARING, UH, YES, MR. FORSIGHT, I HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. FORD.
MR. FORD, ARE YOU STILL ON WITH US? YES, I AM.
UM, DURING YOUR DISCUSSION, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE, UH, RECEIVING THE NOTIFICATION, UH, AND, AND, UH, I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND, DID YOU, UH, HAVE A PROBLEM RETURNING THE NOTIFICATION? BECAUSE I, I SEE, ACCORDING TO OUR ZONING PACKET, THERE WERE TWO REPLIES IN FAVOR BUT NO REPLIES AND OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO MAKE SURE, DID YOU SEND IN A NOTICE? DID WE NOT GET IT ON TIME? COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT FOR US, PLEASE? I SENT IN A NOTICE.
AND ALSO THE SIGNAGE THAT'S REQUIRED OUTSIDE HAS BEEN, UH, BASICALLY NON NOT READABLE.
IT'S DESTROYED, IT'S BEEN TORN AND SHREDDED TWICE NOW BY WEATHER, I ASSUME.
AND THAT'S, THEY REHUNG IT AND NOW IT'S HUNG UPSIDE DOWN, SO YOU STILL CAN'T READ IT.
SO IT'S NOT NEVER BEEN HUNG UP PROPERLY.
SO NO ONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD'VE GOTTEN ANY NOTICE FROM THE SIGNING.
AND WE DIDN'T GET THE NOTICE BY MAIL UNTIL DECEMBER THE FIRST.
DID YOU MAIL IT IN, UH, WITHIN THE PRESCRIBED TIME PERIOD? YES.
THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, EXAMPLE, GOING BACK TO OUR DISCUSSIONS EARLIER ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING, NOT GETTING NOTICES FROM THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, BACK.
UH, YES, WE HAD A THOROUGH DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND I THINK WE HAVE A PLAN FOR TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
AND IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER, MR. FORSYTH? COMMISSIONER FORSYTH? NO.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONERS QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SAY, OKAY, SO, OH YES, WE DID ALL THAT.
CAN WE, UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
NOW FOR OUR SUBDIVISION DOCKET, OUR FRIENDS FROM SUBDIVISION HERE.
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OKAY,[SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent Items]
THANK YOU.BEGINNING WITH OUR, UM, CONSENT ITEMS OF THE SUBDIVISION DOCKET, YOU HAVE THEM READ INTO THE RECORD.
UM, THE AGENT THAT CONSISTS OF NINE ITEMS, ITEM NUMBER 14, ITEM NUMBER 15, ITEM 16, ITEM NUMBER 17.
ITEM NUMBER 20, ITEM NUMBER 21.
ALL THE CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME.
ANY STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY, ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEMS ON CONSENT? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN.
WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE ONLINE.
UM, IS ANYONE ONLINE HERE READY TO SPEAK? JORGE, YOU SEE ANYBODY LISTED? I HAVE KENDRA APCI, JOSE GABRIELLE, MARILLO AND GOD'S WILL.
SO AGAIN, ANY SPEAKERS FOR CONSENT ITEMS ON CONSENT? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER SERATO.
UM, IN THE MATTER OF CONSENT ITEM, UH, S 2 12 0 5 7 R THE PLAT, UM, I MOVED TO APPROVE SUBJECT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
OKAY, SO I, I MOVED TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS 14 THROUGH 22.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR THE SECOND, UM, HEARING.
ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEMS ON CONSENT? YES.
SO WE'RE DOING RESIDENTIAL PLATS.
UM, THERE ARE A LIST OF ITEMS THAT ARE ON CONSENT.
CONSENT MEANS THAT THEY'LL BE APPROVED IN ONE MOTION.
WHAT PLA WHAT ITEM ARE YOU HERE FOR? IT'S RESIDENTIAL.
YEAH, THAT WILL BE THE NEXT CASE.
IT'LL BE THE NEXT CASE AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
OKAY, SO THERE'S NO DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN THE, UH, VOTE.
[23. 25-3498A An application to replat a 4.85-acre (211,334-square foot) tract of land containing part of Lot 1 in City Block 8262 to create 15 lots ranging in size from 5,003 square feet to 5,952 square feet, 3 common areas and to dedicate a right-of-way and alley on property located on Memory Lane Boulevard at Bonnie View Road, north corner. Applicant/Owner: Soul for Christ Ministry, Inc. Surveyor: CBG Surveying Texas, LLC Application Filed: November 6, 2025 Zoning: R-5(A) Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to compliance with the conditions listed in the docket. Planner: Sharmila Shrestha Council District: 8 PLAT-25-000101]
NOW WE'RE HERE OUR RESIDENTIAL REPL ITEM NUMBER 24.IT IS AN APPLICA, IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REPLANT A 23 OH OH, SORRY, ITEM NUMBER 23.
UM, IT IS AN APPLICATION TO PLETT A 4.85 ACRE, THAT IS 211,334 SQUARE FOOT TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING PART OF LOT ONE IN CITY BLOCK 82 62 TO CREATE 15 LOTS RANGING IN SIZE FROM FIVE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED FIVE THOUSAND THREE SQUARE FEET TO 5,952 SQUARE FEET, THREE COMMON AREAS AND TO DEDICATE A RIGHT OF WAY AND ALLEY ON PROPERTY.
LOCATED ON MEMORY LANE BOULEVARD AT BONNE VIEW ROAD NORTH CONNOR.
23 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025.
AND WE HAVE RECEIVED JURY REPLY IN FAVOR AND JURY REPLY AND OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? THIS WILL BE THE TIME.
MR. SAMPLES, UH, TAKE YOUR TIME.
WAIT TILL YOU GET TO THE MIC AND, UM, BEGIN YOUR COM.
UH, START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON IN FRONT TO CUT THE MICROPHONE
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ON RIGHT HERE? YES, SIR.I'M, IF THE LIGHT'S ON, THEN YOU'RE READY TO ROLL.
UH, MY NAME IS HERMAN SAMPLES 42 26 IN MEMORY LANE BOULEVARD.
AND, UH, I OWN, WE OWN THE, UH, THREE LOTS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS PLAT, THIS FOUR POINT ACRES, WHATEVER LOT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND WE LIVED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE I OWN 42 20, 42, 26, AND 42 30.
THEY ALL LOCKED RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
AND THEY ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS PLANT THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF.
I ALREADY KNOW THAT, UH, UH, UH, WHAT I'VE BEEN MADE AWARE OF, I'M KIND IN OPPOSED OF THESE LITTLE SMALL, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE, WHAT WAS THIS? 15, 20 LITTLE SMALL.
LOTS, UH, UH, UH, UH, LITTLE SMALL HOMES OR SOMETHING ACROSS FROM ME.
IS THAT THE UNDERSTANDING, SIR? YOU JUST SPEAK.
WE, WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE CASE BECAUSE IT'S A RESIDENTIAL PL WE ONLY CAN, UH, INVESTIGATE IT HERE.
BUT ANYWAY, ALREADY IT JUST SEEMED TO ME THIS KIND OF PROPOSAL IS GOING TO, UH, NUMBER ONE TO DIMINISH MY PROPERTY VALUE AS WELL.
UH, UH, AND BUILDING SETS, LITTLE SMALL HOMES.
I THINK THEY, WHAT, 50 BY 25 SOMETHING? I DON'T KNOW.
ANYWAY, LITTLE BITTY SMALL LOTS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM ME AND, UH, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE CONFUSION AND, AND, UH, THIS IS JUST A ONE WAY IN LIMITED STREET.
UH, UH, NOT TO MENTION THEY'VE ALREADY, UH, AND THE PAST, THE STREET HAD A SIGN AT THE CORNER OF WHEREAS, UH, NO TRUCKS NO MORE THAN, UH, I THINK 10,000 POUNDS, SOMETHING 10,000 POUNDS SHOULD COME DOWN THE STREET.
IN THE PAST, AND, AND I HAVE DID MY BEST TO ADDRESS THIS, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY TRUCKS COMING DOWN THE STREET, UH, UH, UH, UH, 10 TIMES AS HEAVY.
AND FOR SOME REASON THAT SIGN DISAPPEARED.
UH, AND THE PROCESS FROM THAT AND FROM THE, THE, THE MANY HUGE TRUCKS GO GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, THIS HAS COMPROMISED ALL MY PROPERTY.
MY, UH, MY STREET, MY, MY HOME IS STARTING TO SINK.
UH, I HAVE ADDRESSED, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE CITY OF V SEVERAL TIMES TO ADDRESS THIS SITUATION.
THEY PUT WATER LINES DOWN THE STREET, DUG IT UP, AND IT'S STILL WONKY.
RIGHT? NEVER SMOOTHED THE STREET OUT.
AND NOT TO MENTION THE TIME IS UP, I THINK.
YEAH, WELL ANYWAY, WHEN THEY DID THE, UH, WATER LINES AND, AND THEY CUT IN THE STREET AND IMPOSE A, A PACIFIC AREA RIGHT AT MY FRONT YARD HAS COMPROMISED.
AND EVEN THINK THAT, THAT YOUR TIME, IT DROPPED DOWN.
UM, BUT MA'AM, YOU CAN SPEAK IF YOU WANT TO FINISH HIS THOUGHTS.
NO, WHAT HE'S GOOD ABOUT IS UHHUH, A LITTLE WHILE AGO, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS PUT IN, UH, WATER LINES BECAUSE WE, WE LIVED IN A SEPTIC TANK AREA AND THEY HAVE THAT, THAT AREA.
GO AHEAD AND, AND SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD THAT YES, MA'AM.
AND WHEN THEY CAME IN AND DID THAT, THE STREET HAS NOT BEEN SMOOTHED OUT AT ALL.
SOMEONE FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS CAME JUST NOT TOO LONG AGO PROMISING THAT THEY WOULD GET IT TAKEN CARE OF, AND IT HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
AND WE WE'RE CONCERNED BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A DEAD END STREET.
AND ANY CONSTRUCTION HAVING TO USE THAT, IT, IT, IT, IT, IT HINDERS US GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY BACK IN FOR IT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S OUR CONCERN ABOUT SOMETHING BEING BUILT ACROSS THE STREET LIKE THAT.
WE ENJOY OUR, UH, SPACE AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
IT'S BEEN A, A NICE QUIET STREET FOR, UH, WE'VE LIVED THERE
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FOR OVER 40, 50 YEARS.UH, IT'S BEEN A NICE QUIET STREET.
UH, WE, WE GET THE, THE GIST OF YOUR JOB.
WE, WE WILL, WE'LL DISCUSS IT HERE, BUT THANK YOU.
WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ONLINE ON, UM, AND ON THIS CASE THE APPLICANT, JOSE GABRIELLE.
MR. JOSE, ARE YOU ONLINE READY TO SPEAK? OH, HE'S HERE IN PERSON.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, MY NAME IS JOSE GABRIEL MURILLO.
I'LL BE THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.
SO A COUPLE OF CONCERNS I HEARD WHERE THE, THE TRAFFIC, THE DRIVEWAY, SO WE CAN STAGE THE, THE ENTRANCE AND THE SUBDIVISION IN A WAY THAT WON'T, UH, AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA.
WE'RE ALSO EXPANDING THE PAVING ON FROM BUNNY BUNNY VIEW, ROAD TO MEMORY LANE.
SO THE PAVING IS GONNA BE BETTER FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THE AREA AND THE DRAINAGE OF IT AS WELL.
UH, THE GENTLEMAN WAS DISCUSSING THE WE HOLES ON THE RETAINING WALL.
UM, AS YOU MAY KNOW, THERE'S A FLOOD PLANE CROSSING THE, THE SUBDIVISION.
SO WE'RE GONNA PUT TWO DETENTION PONDS THAT WILL NOT INCREASE THE FLOOD FOR ANYBODY IN THE AREA.
SO WE'LL DO THE HYDROLOGY FOR THE PROJECT AND WE'LL DETAIN ALL THE WATER BEFORE IT GOES BACK TO THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S GONNA BE AFFECTED IN ANY WAY.
AND BASED ON THE SUNNY REQUIREMENTS OF R FIVE, WE SHOULD BE IN, IN GOOD SHAPE TO, TO FINALIZE THE PROJECT.
SO I CAN SHARE MY, UH, MY CONTACT INFORMATION WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO CAME BEFORE ME AND I CAN SHARE THE PLANS WITH HIM.
SO WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DISCIPLINE AND THE SUBDIVISION.
THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
I SEE WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER.
MR. GODS WILL, UH, HE'S WITH ME.
HE'S, YEAH, HE'S NOT GONNA SPEAK.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR APPLICANTS OR IS THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS HERE THAT WANNA SPEAK? YES.
WE'LL GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, 6 6 7 6 6 7 OH BUNNY VIEW.
I OWN THE CHURCH THAT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE PROPOSAL.
THAT'S GOING ONE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, IS THIS GOING TO BE LOW INCOME OR WE GOING TO HAVE MORE, UH, BURGLARIES.
I JUST HAD A VAN STOLE IN THAT AREA.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW SECURE THEY GOING TO COME IF THEY BRINGING IN THESE LOW INCOME SMALL APARTMENTS OR OUTREACH PLACES.
SO IF THEY GOING TO ENSURE US THAT MY PROPERTY WON'T ALWAYS BE VANDALIZED OR PUTTING SECURITY AROUND IT, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO UPGRADE WHAT WE GOT OVER THERE.
I, WE'LL, WE'LL ADDRESS THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
UH, JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR THE, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
UM, FIRST, UH, CHAIR BEFORE I THINK WE ADDRESSED, WE MIGHT NEED TO EXPLAIN THE PLA BUT THIS ISN'T A ZONING CASE.
I THINK MAYBE THE, UM, THE, THE SPEAKERS DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PORTION.
UM, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO INTO DETAILS ABOUT WHETHER IT IS A, UH, LOW INCOME OR WHAT THE U USE IS.
THIS IS THE PLATING FOR THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROPERTY.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAVE THAT FOR DISCUSSION, BUT YES, THANK YOU.
OH, JUST WANTED TO ADD IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
YEAH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, MR. GABRIEL, COULD YOU COME DOWN FOR A SECOND? THANK YOU.
UM, AND I, AND I HEARD, I HEARD THE CONCERNS OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CAME TODAY.
IS THERE, AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED IT, IS THERE A, IS THIS PROPERTY GONNA HAVE AN ADDITIONAL INTEREST RATE FROM BUNNY VIEW? I MEAN OFF OF BUNNY VIEW OR, OR, OR DOES THIS PROPERTY EXTEND TO BUN VIEW? UH, IT'S GONNA FRAME TO BONNEY VIEW.
SO ARE YOU GONNA HAVE A ADDITIONAL ENTRYWAY INTO THE, THE, UM, THE NEW MINI SUBDIVISION THAT YOU'RE CREATING? THAT'S RIGHT.
BESIDES MEMORY, BESIDES MEMORY LANE, WHICH IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT IS A SMALL, UM, STREET, RIGHT.
SO WE'LL HAVE TWO ALLEYS FOR EMERGENCY, UH, CIRCULATION, AND WE'LL HAVE A MAIN ROAD, UH, WITH THE CURVE RETURNS FOR FIREFIGHTER UH, TRUCKS.
BUT IT WON'T BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE, TO THE DAY-TO-DAY TRAFFIC, NO.
UM, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, ANY MORE QUESTIONS I NEED TO, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION UNDER THE NEW RULES.
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IF WE CAN PAUSE AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, YES, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF THE RESIDENTIAL REPL CASE, PLAT 25 0 0 0 1 0 1, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WILLER FOR THE SECOND.
ARE THERE ANY, UM, UH, DISCUSSION, UH, I'M SORRY, ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UM, YEAH, THAT, I GUESS THE LAST QUESTION WOULD BE, AND WHY ISN'T THIS GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE RESIDENTS SO THAT IT CAN TAKE 15 ADDITIONAL SMALLER, UM, LOTS CAN THEN BE ANYWHERE FROM ADDITIONAL THREE ADDITIONAL 15 TO 45 ADDITIONAL CARS BASED OFF OF THE AMOUNT OF LOTS.
SO BASED ON THE SONY, WE HAVE, UH, WE CAN'T REPLY TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET LOTS.
UH, THE WIDTH OF THE RIGHT OF WAY SHOULD BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY GIVE YOU ENOUGH TRAFFIC CIRCULATION, BUT ALSO TO HAVE, UH, OFF STREET PARKING ON TOP OF THE DRIVEWAYS THAT THEY WERE HAVE IN THERE.
SO, AND BECAUSE WE'RE DIVIDING IT WITH THE ALLEYS FOR EMERGENCY USAGE, IT SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO CIRCULATE.
I DON'T THINK I, OTHER QUESTION.
ALRIGHT, MR. FOR COMMISSIONER FORSYTH.
SO MR. SAMPLE IN HIS TESTIMONY BROUGHT UP THAT MEMORY LANE ROAD IS JUST A ONE LANE ROAD, A ONE WAY ROAD.
IS THAT CORRECT? MEMORY LANE IS A TWO, UH, TWO-WAY STREET.
IT'S, UH, MAIN AVENUE IF I, IF STREET, YEAH, IT'S TWO WAY STREET.
CAN, CAN I ASK CHAIRMAN IF WE CAN GET, UH, AN OPINION FROM THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY ON WHAT OUR LIMITATIONS ARE ON A RESIDENTIAL WE PLAT CASE, PLEASE? YES.
UM, COUNSELORS, YOU WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT? YES.
SINCE THIS IS A PLATTING CASE, NOT, UM, A ZONING CASE, IT'S REALLY A MINISTERIAL FUNCTION TO, OF THIS BODY TO APPROVE, UH, THE SUBDIVISION DOCKET BEFORE YOU UNLESS, UM, ONE OF THE PLATS ON THE DOCKET VIOLATES, UM, EITHER A, A PROVISION OF OUR PLATTING, UM, REGULATIONS IN CHAPTER 51 A OR A PROVISION OF STATE LAW.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE A ZONING CASE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT MORE LATITUDE AND A LOT MORE LEEWAY, UM, TO MAKE MORE OF A LEGISLATIVE CALL ON THOSE CASES.
THIS IS, UM, AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION.
SO, UH, TO, TO BOIL IT DOWN IS YOU MUST APPROVE, UM, THE PLATS BEFORE YOU, UNLESS THE PLAT, UM, VIOLATES, UM, SOME REGULATION OR LAW THANK YOU COUNSELOR.
AND THAT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S OUR PURVIEW HERE IS SHORT.
UM, WE CAN ONLY LOOK AT THIS AT A PLANNING LEVEL, DOES IT FIT AND CONFORM WITH THE AREA? UM, AND IT LIMITS OUR PURVIEW WHEN IT COMES TO QUESTIONS ON AFFORDABILITY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, VICE CHAIR.
AND I THINK THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, MR.
SO THAT WILL BE GIVEN AS COMMON AREA, UH, JUST FOR THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS AND SO, BUT DETENTION TYPICALLY ISN'T ABLE TO FUNCTION.
WHAT I THINK SOME OF US WOULD CONSIDER AS COMMON AREA.
IS COMMON AREA A USABLE OPEN SPACE, A REQUIREMENT IN R FIVE.
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NOT A STRAIGHT ZONING REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD, IT'S NOT CREATE A DEDICATED OPEN SPACE.
SO THE, THE COMMON AREA DESIGNATION FUNCTIONALLY IS HOW THE DETENTION AREA IS DEFINED, BUT THAT WON'T BE AVAILABLE FOR COMMUNITY USE? YES, TYPICALLY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER WHEELER ROUND TWO.
UM, THIS IS GONNA BE TWO AND IT'S GONNA BE ONE TO, TO, IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND TO YOU ALL.
UM, DOES THIS AREA HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REPLAY? WELL, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE ZONING FOR THIS AREA? IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH A ZONING BEFORE THE REPL.
UM, AND ALSO CAN A PLAT ALSO BE DENIED BECAUSE OF, UM, IT DOES NOT FIT THE, UM, WHAT DID I JUST ASK?
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THE PATTERN, THE CURRENT PATTERN PER OUR ESTABLISHED PATTERN? YEAH.PER A STAFF ANALYSIS, WE DO NOT SEE ANY, THERE IS A VARIATION OF LOT PATTERN.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE CLARIFICATIONS.
UM, FRANKLIN, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR, FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH THIS ISN'T A, A, A USE CASE, A ZONING CASE, UH, WHERE WE TYPICALLY HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE MADE THE LEAST A GOOD FAITH OFFER TO REACH OUT TO THE RESIDENTS ON YOUR PLANS MOVING FORWARD.
I JUST WANNA GET ON THE RECORD THAT YOU WILL COMMIT TO REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE AND TO ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN OR ARTICULATED HERE THIS AFTERNOON.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE WILL TAKE A VOTE.
[24. 25-3499A An application to replat a 4.5236-acre tract of land containing all of Lot 21 in City Block D/7399 and tract of land in City Block 7399 to create one lot on property located on Oates Drive, east of Vinewood Drive. Applicant/Owner: White Rock Montessori Elementary School of the God Samaritan, Inc. Surveyor: A &W Surveyors, Inc. Application Filed: November 7, 2025 Zoning: R-7.5(A) Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to compliance with the conditions listed in the docket. Planner: Sharmila Shrestha Council District: 2 PLAT-25-000145]
NEXT CASE IS CASE NUMBER 24.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REPLAT A 4.5236 ACRE TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT 21 IN CITY BLOCK D OVER 73 99, AND A TRACK OF LAND IN CITY BLOCK 73 99 TO CREATE ONE LOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON OS DRIVE EAST OF PINEWOOD DRIVE.
56 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025.
WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
AND, UH, IN ADDITION, WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION, UH, TODAY AT 10 56.
ALL THE, UM, THE COPIES OF THE OPPOSITION LETTER HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF RECOMME APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITION LISTED IN THE DOCKET OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? ANY SPEAKERS ONLINE OR SEE ANYBODY ELSE LISTED? HEARING NONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF PLAT DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 1 4 5.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
YES, YOU HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE DID GET THE, UM, LETTER IN OPPOSITION THAT APPEARED TO, UM, JUST WANT MORE INFORMATION NOT NECESSARILY BEING OPPOSED.
AND AS WE KNOW, THESE CAN BE RATHER OPAQUE.
AND FOR A PLAT, THIS IS REALLY JUST MEMORIALIZING THE EXISTING SCHOOL USE.
SO I HOPE WE WILL ALL SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
ARE THERE ANY, UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR? NOPE.
HEARING NONE WILL ENTERTAIN A VOTE.
[25. 25-3500A FY2024-25 City Plan Commission Annual Report]
MATTERS UNDER ADVISEMENT, THE 20 24 25 CITY PLAN COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT.OKAY, WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY FEEDBACK.
STAFF SAYS, ARE WE READY TO MAKE A VOTE? OKAY, WE'LL CHANGE SOME QUESTIONS.
DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION FIRST? I DON'T 'CAUSE I, THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTIONS PROBABLY DICTATES WHAT MOTION I WOULD MAKE.
MS. LAUREN IS YOU HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION BEFORE DISCUSSING.
I I THINK COMMISSIONER HAMPTON'S GONNA RESCUE US.
YET, I MEAN, IT, IT'S UP TO THE CHAIR.
I MEAN, THIS MIGHT TAKE MORE DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL APPROVE ONLY ONCE A YEAR.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE CHAIR.
UM, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF HAS RECENTLY, UH, REPRIORITIZED THE METHODOLOGY FOR DETERMINING WHEN AUTHORIZED HEARINGS WILL BE HEARD OR OR THEIR, THEIR PLACE IN LINE.
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS, WHAT THAT METHODOLOGY IS AND HOW THE POINT SYSTEM WORKS OR WHERE WE CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION?
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AND FOR THOSE KEEPING UP, PAGE NINE OF THE PROPOSED REPORT HAS A SECTION, UNAUTHORIZED HEARINGS, UM, ANDREA GILLIS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.UM, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST ONE WE DID, UM, THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE BRIEFING TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON MONDAY.
UM, WHERE WE TALKED THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS.
THEY'VE ASKED US FOR SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, INCLUDING MORE DETAILS ON THE RANKINGS.
UM, BUT IN GENERAL AS THE RANKINGS, UM, YEAH, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RANKINGS, UM, IS WE'VE UPDATED THEM TO INCLUDE MORE, MORE PRIORITIZATION RELATED TO IF YOU ARE AN AREA WITH AN ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN AND YOUR ZONING IS FOLLOWING SOME RECOMMENDED FUTURE LAND USE GUIDANCE.
AND AS FORWARD DALLAS RECOMMENDED, IT SAID SPECIFICALLY THAT WE FOCUS ON THE AREAS WHERE THERE ARE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES.
IT SAID WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THOSE.
THAT WAS PART OF THE ADOPTED PLAN THAT THE AREAS WHERE THERE WERE RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL, AND COMPATIBILITIES.
AND SO WE'VE MAPPED THOSE OUT THROUGH THE CITY.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE DONE, UM, QUITE EXTENSIVE DATA ANALYSIS ON THE DIFFERENT THEMES FROM FORWARD DALLAS.
SO IS THE REQUEST RELATED TO SOME HOUSING ISSUES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGH FORWARD DALLAS? IS IT RELATED TO SOME TRANSIT ORIENTED? IS IT WITHIN A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT AREA? UM, ARE THERE SOME ECONOMIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE DISCUSSED ABOUT, UM, CORRIDORS AND SOME MIXED MIXED USES, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN ALSO THEY'RE STILL INCLUDED AS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
IS THIS AN AREA THAT WHERE THERE'S BEEN A TIFF OR A PIT AND CAN SOME LOOKING AT THE REZONING OR DOING A REVIEW THERE CAN THAT HELP IN THOSE AREAS? UM, AND THEN ALSO THERE'S THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE ALWAYS LOOK AT AS WELL.
IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF, OH, AND ALSO THE OTHER BIG ONE WAS IF THERE HAS BEEN SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET ALLOCATIONS TO AN AREA, AND THE EXAMPLE I GAVE AT COUNCIL ON MONDAY WAS, YOU KNOW, SAY WE WERE PUTTING IN, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO A ROAD IMPROVEMENT, IT MAY BENEFIT THAT AREA TO TAKE A LOOK ALSO AT THE ZONING TO SEE IF THE LAND USE IS MATCHING THE LAND USE AND ZONING WILL MATCH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE PUT INTO.
SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THAT ROAD AREA.
THAT WAS A LONG RESPONSE, BUT I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE FINAL ANSWER.
WHAT IS THE METHODOLOGY THAT YOU USE FOR DETERMINING PRIORITIZATION OF AUTHORIZED HEARINGS? AND AS A FOLLOW-UP, DO YOU HAVE THAT METHODOLOGY IN WRITING? SO THE REST OF US KNOW WHAT IT IS? SO I WOULD SAY IF THIS BODY WOULD LIKE A BRIEFING, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS A QUESTION OF, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ANNUAL REPORT, NOT A BRIEFING ON AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THEM, WELL ACTUALLY STAFF WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT.
YOU KNOW, MS. GILLIS, THIS WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED AT THE LAST CPC HEARING AND YOU FLAT OUT REFUSED TO ASK, ANSWER IT.
YOU HAVE AN EXTENSIVE SECTION, UNAUTHORIZED HEARINGS IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT.
AND I, I'M STRUGGLING WITH WHY WHEN WE ASK THESE QUESTIONS, YOUR ANSWER IS EITHER I'M NOT GONNA ANSWER OR WE'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEFING IN THE FUTURE.
WELL, I'M PRETTY SURE I DIDN'T SAY THE WORDS.
I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
UM, SO I PRETTY MUCH LAID OUT THE METHODOLOGY.
IT'S A LOT OF DATA THAT GOES INTO IT.
I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP, WELL, I WON'T, STAFF WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
THEY'VE ASKED FOR A FOLLOW UP AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.
WE WILL ALSO BE POSTING THINGS ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND SO THERE'S VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS AND METHODOLOGY THAT WILL BE PROVIDED.
SO YOU NOW HAVE A NEW WAY OF PRIORITIZING AUTHORIZED HEARINGS AND YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN IT TO THIS BODY AND YOU COULDN'T EXPLAIN IT TO COUNSEL ON MONDAY.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU, IF ANYONE ELSE WAS CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT I JUST EXPLAINED AND WANTED MORE INFORMATION BECAUSE I EXPLAINED THE FIVE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT FOR PRIORITIZING, NUMBER ONE.
BUT YOU ALSO SAID YOU HAD A POINT SYSTEM CORRECT.
AND MY INITIAL QUESTION INCLUDED, HOW DO YOU COME AT THE POINT SYSTEM? I MEAN, IS THIS PROCESS IN WRITING ANYWHERE? SO WE AS A BODY OR COUNCIL AS A BODY OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
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CAN LOOK AT IT AND UNDERSTAND HOW THESE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS GET RANKED AND YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE USING TO DO THAT.I UNDERSTOOD THE FIVE CATEGORIES YOU GAVE, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE WEIGHTED AND HOW YOU USE THEM TO PRIORITIZE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION WHEN WE ARE PROVIDING IT TO COUNSEL AND WE WILL ABSOLUTELY THEN SCHEDULE SOME TIME TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS TO CPC WHEN AFTER WE, I THINK, UH, I'M SORRY TO, TO INTERVENE.
I THINK THE, SO WE HAVE A, WE HAD A BRIEFING TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE ON MONDAY.
YOU CAN ALL WATCH IT OR SEE THE PRESENTATION.
THEY GAVE US SOME, UM, FOLLOW UPS, SOME HOMEWORK TO DO AND THEY ALSO, UH, WANTED TO SEE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
AND I THINK WE SAID THAT WE WERE LOOKING SOMEWHERE PROBABLY FEBRUARY TO COME BACK TO EDC TO PRESENT IT.
SO I WOULD CON CONTINUE TO LIKE, UM, KEEP, UH, CITY COUNCIL INFORMED AND ONCE WE SETTLE THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO COME AND SHOW IT TO YOU.
THERE WERE A LOT OF OTHER SUGGESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MADE, UM, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT AND HONOR THOSE.
WILL YOU COMMIT TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THIS BODY WHEN YOU PROVIDE TO COUNCIL'S BRIEFING? I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE GONNA FOCUS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE BRIEFING AND AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THEM, WE'LL COME TO CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
BUT ONCE IT'S AGAIN, CITY, UH, CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES ARE PUBLIC MEETINGS LIKE THE PRESENTATION, I'M AWARE ALL OF THAT.
SO IT'S, THE INFORMATION GETS TO THE PUBLIC THE SAME WAY THAT IT GETS TO THEM AS WELL.
WELL, YOU TWO WILL KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT AUTHORIZED HEARINGS FOR A YEAR AND YOU GUYS HAVE NOT BEEN GIVING IT TO ME.
WE HAVE GIVEN INFORMATION AS WE HAD IT.
WE HAD TO RANK IT, WE HAD TO LIKE, I THINK WE MADE HUGE PROJECT, UH, PROGRESS ON THAT.
WE CREATED, UH, WE CREATED A WEBSITE, WE PUT ALL THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS ON THE WEBSITE, WE PUT ALL THE MEMOS ON THE WEBSITE.
SO WE, WE DID SOME OF THAT AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING FOR THAT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO A LOT OF THAT.
WE ALSO WORK AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
SO IT'S NOT, I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION AND THE FRUSTRATION, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE, I THINK IT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT LIKE WE HAVEN'T ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING IN THE LAST YEAR.
THIS IS THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CPCS ANNUAL REPORT.
SO IT'S WHAT ITEMS CBC ACTED ON THIS PAST YEAR.
WHAT'S C'S PLAN TO CATCH UP ON THE BACKLOG OF AUTHORIZED HEARINGS? WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING THROUGH THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
WE HAVE THE NEXT SET OF AUTHORIZED HEARINGS AS WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
WE ARE GOING TO BE SETTING UP ONE-ON-ONES WITH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT COUNSEL MEMBERS WHO HAVE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS IN THEIR AREAS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE NE NEED TO CONTINUE WITH THOSE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM SITTING ON THE LIST THAT EITHER THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS ADVISED THAT WE MAY NEED TO APPROACH THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS DIFFERENTLY OR WE CAN ADDRESS THEM THROUGH CODE REFORM.
AND SO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE SCHEDULING THOSE TO FIRM UP THOSE.
WE'VE ALREADY JUST KICKED OFF TWO, WE'VE KICKED OFF THE NEXT TWO, WHICH ARE VERY BIG AREAS, PD 5 95 AND THE WEST SINGLE, UH, WESTMORELAND SINGLETON AREA.
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER THREE THAT ARE IN QUEUE THAT WE HOPE TO KICK OFF IN THE NEXT YEAR, BUT, OR IN THE NE THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT YEAR.
AND I THINK COUNCIL AGREED THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION THAT COUNCIL AGREED THAT WE NEED TO VISIT, REVISIT SOME OF THOSE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS ON THE LIST TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE STILL NEED TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THOSE OR IF WE NEED TO DEAUTHORIZE AND THEN WE GET A FIRMED UP LIST.
AND THEN WE IDEALLY NEED TO LOOK AT GETTING OUR, FILLING OUR SENIOR PLANNER POSITIONS TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
WHO ARE THE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM THAT WORK ON AUTHORIZED HEARINGS NOW? UH, SOFF IS THE CHIEF PLANNER.
AND WHO ARE THE OTHER PEOPLE? WE HAVE GOT TWO A PLANNER, TWO, WE'VE GOT A PLANNER ONE AND WE HAVE THREE VACANT.
THREE IS ZA VACANT SENIOR PLANNERS.
WHO ARE THE TWO PLANNERS? WE HAVE, UM, TIANA IS ONE OF OUR NEW PLANNERS.
SHE'S A PLANNER ONE AND SHE'S STILL LEARNING AND GROWING.
WE HAVE, UM, AND ADRIANA'S ON THE TEAM.
I'M SORRY, WHO? ADRIANA AVILA.
IS THERE ANY PLAN TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE TEAM? IT HAS.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN ADDED SENIOR PLANNER THAT WAS ADDED THROUGH THIS LAST BUDGET SESSION.
UM, YOU SAID YOU HAD THREE VACANCIES.
IS THERE ANY PLAN TO FILL THOSE WITH PEOPLE WHO ALREADY WORK AT THE CITY OR ARE YOU TRYING TO HIRES A THEY WILL BE PUBLIC.
THEY WILL BE PUBLICLY POSTED POSITIONS AND THE BEST QUALIFIED PEOPLE WILL GET THOSE POSITIONS.
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FOR WHEN THOSE MIGHT BE FILLED? THEY'RE ALREADY POSTED.UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TOTAL IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT? UM, IT'S CLO IT'S ABOUT 400.
AND HOW MANY OF THOSE FOLKS ARE WORKING ON CURRENT PLANNING OR CURRENT ZONING CASES? INDIVIDUAL ZONING CASES? OH, IN THE TEAM THAT PRESENTS TO, TO YOU? I THINK WE HAVE SIX OR SEVEN.
AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON LONG-TERM PLANNING, LIKE REWRITING THE DEVELOPMENT CODE? UH, WE HAVE MICHAEL WADE, WHO'S THE CHIEF PLANNER AND HE'S WORKING WITH THE PLANNER.
ONE OR TWO? PLANNER TWO, JACOB RAHO.
SO WHERE DO THE OTHER 370 OR 80 PEOPLE WORK FOR THE ENTIRE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT PERMIT? YEAH, IT'S ALL PERMIT.
IT'S THE ENTIRE, YEAH, IT'S ENTIRE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS, I I DID THE PRESENTATION AND I CAN GO BACK AND SHOW YOU THE ORG CHART WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH, UH, I'M SORRY, PERMITTING, ENGINEERING, EVERYTHING THAT I PRESENTED LAST TIME.
SO THOSE, IT'S NOT 400, IT'S 300 AND SOMETHING.
SO YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE WORKING ON REWRITING THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AMIRO AS YOU KNOW.
WOULD YOU AGREE THAT AUTHORIZED HEARINGS ARE ONE OF THE MOST INCLUSIVE, TRANSPARENT WAYS THAT WE CAN GO ABOUT DOING ZONING CHANGES IN THE CITY? THEY SHOULD BE, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, NOT AN ANNUAL REPORT, BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU AND I AM ALSO HOPING THAT WE WILL CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THE ZONING REFORM, I'M HOPING IS GONNA SOLVE SOME OF THOSE.
SO WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE TIME THAT WAS, THAT THOSE WERE AUTHORIZED, THE THOSE AREA LOOK DIFFERENT.
AND I'M STILL AGAIN, HOPING TIME-WISE THAT MAYBE SOME OF THEM WILL BE RESOLVED WITH THE ZONING REFORM.
THAT'S WHY THEY NEED TO BE REEVALUATED.
YES, THEY ARE A GREAT PROCESS.
UM, AND AS THE SAME AS ANY REZONING.
BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL HOPING HERE THAT AGAIN, CODE FUNCTIONS BETTER.
WE RELY A LITTLE BIT LESS ON JUST ZONING CHANGES ONE BY ONE.
DO YOU HAVE A PLAN ONCE YOU GET CAUGHT UP UNAUTHORIZED HEARINGS TO NOT ALLOW THE TYPE OF BACKLOG WE HAVE TO OCCUR IN THE FUTURE? THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IS TO HAVE A GOOD CODE AND THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IS TO HAVE ZONING ON THE GROUND THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REZONED.
I THINK THAT'S OUR GOAL IN GENERAL WITH THE CITY FOR PREDICTABILITY STABILITY.
SO I THINK THE SECOND WE NEED AS MANY REZONINGS THAT ARE PREVALENT IN PRIVATE ZONING CASES AND AUTHORIZED HEARING.
IT JUST SHOWS US THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE CODE.
BUT WE USE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS LIKE PRESERVATION OVERLAYS.
AND YOU'RE NOT PLANNING TO DEVELOP, CHANGE THE DEVELOPMENT CODE TO GET RID OF THE NECESSITY FOR THAT, ARE YOU? WITHOUT, WITHOUT A DOUBT.
LIKE WE HAVE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, WE HAVE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, BUT THOSE ARE NOT NECESSARILY, SOMETIMES I'M HOPING WE CAN HAVE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX THAT ARE GONNA PREVENT, OR LET'S SAY IT WILL BE MORE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX.
LIKE MAYBE WE CAN VIA THE CODE REFORM, WE CAN CREATE SOME OVERLAYS AND SOME NEIGHBORHOODS CAN TAKE THOSE OR WHO KNOWS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE WANNA BE CAREFUL AND WE WANNA HAVE A VERY GOOD CODE THOUGH.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, CAN I GET YOU TO HOLD YOUR QUESTIONS FOR A SECOND ROUND AND GIVE THE OTHER SURE.
I JUST HAD TWO, UM, QUESTIONS ON, UM, INFORMATION THAT'S INCLUDED IN OUR REPORT, UM, ALSO IN THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, BUT IT'S REALLY SPEAKING ABOUT THE, UM, D EUM LAID HOURS REVIEW THAT WAS AN AUTHORIZED HEARING BUT IS REPORTED UNDER THE, UM, POLICY AND PROCESS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND THAT AUTHORIZED HEARING ITSELF IS NOT NECESSARILY MOVING FORWARD.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS LANGUAGE NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, BUT I KNOW THIS BODY DIDN'T GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S BEING REPORTED IN THIS, UM, DOCUMENT.
SO THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO BRING THAT FORWARD JUST SO THAT THE FOLKS WHO VOTED ON THAT AUTHORIZED HEARING UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S LIKELY NOT NEEDED BECAUSE ANOTHER SOLUTION HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
AND I WOULD SAY I WOULD SAY THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.
SORRY, KEEP TALKING LIKE I, UM, SO BECAUSE YES, I THINK WE'RE RIGHT ON THE CUSP OF, UM, THERE'S A TASK FORCE.
THERE ARE MULTI MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS WORKING ON THAT, ON THAT.
SO I THINK WE'RE AT THE, DEFINITELY AT THE CUSP IN THE NEW YEAR TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHERE THAT'S AT AND HOW THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD.
WELL, AND THAT MIGHT BE THE ONE, PERHAPS LANGUAGE ADDITION IS TO SIMPLY NOTE THAT THAT IS TO BE BROUGHT BACK IN THE COMING YEAR BASED ON THE FINDINGS.
UM, MY SECOND QUESTION WAS UNDER NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION OVERLAYS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO THAT WERE INITIATED.
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A SUMMARY OF THOSE THAT, UM, HAVE BEEN EITHER PREVIOUSLY INITIATED OR WHERE THE, UM, UH, POINTS ARE THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THAT I THINK ARE COMING OUT OF SOME OF THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS THAT YOUR TEAM IS WORKING ON.AND I WILL SPECIFICALLY SPEAK, I KNOW, UM, LOVEFIELD, UM, WEST HAS BEEN WORKING FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, UM, ON THEIRS.
AND I KNOW IT'S HIT A COUPLE OF ROADBLOCKS, BUT I THINK UNDERSTANDING, SIMILAR TO HOW Y'ALL ARE TRACKING NEIGHBORHOODS OR EXCUSE ME, AUTHORIZED HEARING, UNDERSTANDING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROCESS BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE THAN JUST THE TWO THAT GOT INITIATED.
THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL INFORMATION JUST TO SUPPLEMENT WHAT'S IN HERE.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER? NO, MY ONE OF MY RECOMMENDATIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME THE MATTER THAT PD 5 9 5 IS UP FOR THE AUTHORIZED HEARING AFTER OUR AREA PLAN.
IT DID TAKE FIVE YEARS INTENTIONALLY BY, UH, THE, THOSE WHO ARE ON THE SOUTH DALLAS FAR PARK AREA PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COVERED EVERY NICK AND CRANNY AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT HOW QUICKLY ALSO AFTER THAT, THAT THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS STARTED? UM, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS IN THE FUTURE AS WE GO FORWARD, UM, I KNOW THAT THE GOAL IS TO REEVALUATE DALLAS AS A WHOLE AND THE CODE TO FIT THE LAND USE SO THAT WE WON'T HAVE SO MANY PDS.
AND, UM, UM, IT, IT WILL IT BE POSSIBLE THAT WHEN YOU ARE, WHEN A LAND, WHEN A, UH, AREA PLAN, UH, TASK FORCE IS CREATED, THAT THOSE SAME PLANNERS WHO ARE IN THE AREA PLAN THAT THAT HELP CREATE THAT AREA PLAN, ALSO BE A PART OF THE PUBLIC, UM, THE, UH, AUTHORIZED HEARING PROCESS SO THAT IT WON'T BE ALMOST, UM, REINVENTING THE WHEEL.
AND THAT HAS ONLY BEEN OUR CONCERN.
AND WHAT WE HAVE NOTICED IN OUR PROCESS THAT OUR AUTHORIZED OUR AREA PLAN WAS SO WELL WRITTEN THAT IT REALLY ONLY NEEDED TO BE PASSED TO IF, IF THE TEAM WHO WAS DOING THE AUTHORIZED HEARING, UM, WAS ABLE TO SEE IF THEY CAN ALMOST LOOK INTO THE EYES OF WHAT THOSE MEETINGS HAD LOOKED LIKE.
AND I THINK THAT IS A HELPFUL SITUATION, ESPECIALLY WHETHER IT WAS A TASK FORCE THAT WENT THE FIVE YEARS, UM, OR WENT TO A, UH, QUITE A FEW TASK FORCES SINCE COVID WENT PROBABLY LONGER THAN USUAL.
AND SO IT WOULD MAKE UP FOR THE TIME THAT USUALLY A AUTHORIZED HEARING WOULD NEED TO BE.
AND LOOKING AT THAT, UM, SINCE THOSE PARTICULAR PLANNERS DID THE BULK OF THE WORK THAT THE AUTHORIZED HEARING TEAM DOESN'T HAVE TO REINVENT THEIR SELF YEAH, WE CAN CERTAIN, I MEAN, AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING THAT, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CROSSOVER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AND THE AUTHORIZED HEARING TEAM, ESPECIALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE KICKOFF OF THOSE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS TO HAVE THAT GOOD TRANSITION, UH, TRANSITION BETWEEN THE TWO PROCESSES.
UM, AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL PERSONALLY BECAUSE PD 5 95 IS MOVING AT FULL SPEED AND THAT THE AREA PLAN DID THE BULK OF THE WORK THAT WOULD'VE HAD BEEN DONE ORIGINALLY UP UNDER AUTHORIZED HEARING.
AND DO BELIEVE THAT OFTENTIMES THOSE TASK FORCE HELP MOVE THE AUTHORIZED HEARING FASTER THAN IT WOULD BE IF JUST DONE FROM SCRATCH.
BEFORE WE PICK UP DISCUSSION, LET'S GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR SO OUR DISCUSSIONS CAN BE HEARD IN PARALLEL TO, UM, PASSING OR NOT PASSING, UM, THIS DISCUSSION.
SO CAN YOU GET A MOTION, MR. CHAIR? I MOVE TO ADOPT THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO 2025 CITY PLAN COMMISSION ANNUAL REPORT AND WOULD SUGGEST THE COMMISSION CONSIDER ON PAGE 10, ADDING LANGUAGE UNDER DEEP LM LAND USE AND ZONING RESEARCH THAT AN UPDATE IS PLANNED IN 2026 ON THE FINDINGS AND NEXT STEPS.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AND COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, YOU WANNA CONTINUE? I DO.
HOW MANY AUTHORIZED HEARINGS ARE CURRENTLY IN THE QUEUE? THERE ARE 17 ON THE LIST.
JUST THE LARGE AREA REZONINGS, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THEM AREN'T LARGE.
AND HOW MANY OTHER AUTHORIZED HEARINGS ARE IN THE QUEUE? I DUNNO, LIKE THE SEP ONES.
YEAH, I THINK WE DO, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. TWO, WE HAVE ANOTHER.
NO, WE DON'T, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF WE HAVE MORE SUP AUTHORIZED, BUT I DON'T THINK WE, WE HAD ONE ON LOWER GREENVILLE, WE HAD THE OTHER ONE ON NAR ROAD AND I THINK THOSE WERE RESOLVED.
SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE OTHERS.
SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF AUTHORIZED
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HEARINGS FOR ALL TYPES OF CASES IS 17.WHAT I CAN SAY FOR CERTAINTY IS FOR THE LARGE AREA REZONINGS THAT ARE INITIATED TO REVIEW THE ZONING ON THE GROUND, IT IS 17.
WELL, AREN'T THERE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS TO MAKE CODE AMENDMENTS AND OTHER THINGS? YES, BUT THOSE WILL BE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT TEAM.
THOSE WILL BE LUMPED AND I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE ONE THAT, UH, THE ONE THAT YOU CO, CO-SIGNED AND INITIATED AND WE'LL LUMP THAT INTO THE CODE REFORM WITHOUT A DOUBT.
SO, OKAY, MY FIRST QUESTION WAS HOW MANY AUTHORIZED HEARINGS? SEVEN.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE OVER, YOU'RE OVER THIS WHOLE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? THEY'RE ON THE WEBSITE.
LIKE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LARGE AREA REZONINGS, THEY ARE INITIATED BY THIS BODY OR CITY OR CITY COUNCIL.
THERE ARE A FEW OTHER CODE AMENDMENTS.
THEY'RE ALL ON THE WEBSITE AND WE KNOW, AND AS WE KNOW AND WE TOLD YOU, THOSE WILL BE LUMPED INTO THE ZONING REFORM.
SO IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF WORK.
IS THE WEBSITE PRESENTLY CURRENT? YES.
UM, NOW THE ANNUAL REPORT TALKS ABOUT DECOMMISSIONED AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
DO YOU ALSO HAVE A CATEGORY OF PAUSED AUTHORIZED HEARINGS? YES.
WHO DECIDES TO PAUSE THEM? THE COUNCIL OFFICE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE WERE TWO IN DISTRICT 14 THAT COUNCILMAN RIDLEY DIDN'T SEEM TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BEING PAUSED.
WHO, WHO ACTUALLY DECIDES TO PAUSE? AUTHOR THE COUNCIL OFFICE.
DO YOU HAVE A WRITTEN POLICY WHERE WHEN A AUTHORIZED HEARING IS PAUSED THAT YOU NOTIFY COUNSEL AND OR CPC? WE GET THE REQUEST FROM COUNSEL
MR. CHAIR, CAN WE CALL THE QUESTION? YES.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CALL A QUESTION.
WAS THAT NO DISTRICT THREE? NO.
THE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS, UM, YAY.
IF YOU WANT TO, UM, CLOSE THE DISCUSSION AND, AND GO TO THE VOTE AND NO, IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION, CAN, CAN, BECAUSE I'M CONFUSED.
WHAT DISCUSSION ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE DISCUSSION AROUND OR CALL THE VOTE? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA CALL THE VOTE.
I JUST THINK WE ALL CALL THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING TO GO BACK INTO THE ANNUAL REPORT.
NO DISTRICT SIX, NO DISTRICT SEVEN, NO TO CALL A VOTE, BUT YES TO THE LINE OF QUESTIONING SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK INTO THE WHAT'S RELATED TO THE ANNUAL REPORT AND NOT OUTSIDE OF THE ANNUAL REPORT.
WE, WE CAN'T HAVE DISCUSSION DURING THE VOTE.
SO YOUR VOTE IS EITHER YES OR NO.
ACCORDING MY NUMBERS, MOTIONS FAILS.
CAN WE HAVE ANOTHER ROUND OF QUESTIONS? YES.
AM I STILL UP? I THINK YOU WERE IN MID QUESTION.
AFTER THAT ONE WE'LL GO TO ANOTHER ROUND.
UM, WELL, I I REALLY JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
PAGE 10 OF OUR ANNUAL REPORT UNDER POLICY AND PROCESS DEVELOPMENT SAYS, QUOTE, NEW CRITERIA FOR PRIORITIZING AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
STAFF DEVELOP NEW CRITERIA FOR PRIORITIZING AUTHORIZED HEARING CASES.
THESE NEW GUIDELINES ARE MORE ALIGNED WITH FOUR DALLAS 2.0 PLAN AND ARE CURRENTLY BEING APPLIED TO RANK BOTH PENDING AND NEW CASES.
THAT IS THE LANGUAGE YOU ARE ASKING THIS BODY TO ADOPT AS OUR REPORT, CORRECT? YES.
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WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PROCESS YOU ARE USING TO RANK PENDING IN NEW CASES IN ORDER TO PRIOR FOR YOUR PRIORITIZATION? AND YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED THAT QUESTION CORRECT? SHE DID.DO YOU HAVE THIS, DO YOU HAVE THIS NEW, UM, GUIDELINES IN WRITING SOMEWHERE? WE HAVE THE INFORMATION.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT SAYS WE NEED TO DO THIS.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT SAYS YOU MUST RANK AND BRING IT TO CITY PLAN COMMISSION OR TO CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS A WAY THAT WE'VE, THIS IS, THIS IS A WAY THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO FIGURE OUT, BASED ON THE PLANS THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS ADOPTED A WAY FOR US TO FIGURE OUT A FAIR WAY TO GET THROUGH THESE CASES THAT KEEP GETTING AUTHORIZED.
AND WE HAVE TRIED INTERNALLY TO COME THROUGH A FAIR WAY TO DO THIS.
YES, WE WILL BE POSTING THE DETAILS AND THE MINUTIA OF IT ON THE WEBSITE, BUT THIS IS INTERNAL OPERATION WORK OF HOW WE HAVE TRIED TO DO THAT NOW OUT.
WHAT THE, WHAT WE BRING TO THE BODY IS THESE GENERAL IDEAS AND THESE GENERAL, THESE GENERAL CONCEPTS.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ASKING FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, DO YOU LIKE THIS OR NOT? WE HAVE TO DO THIS, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT.
THERE WAS A PREVIOUS RANKING SYSTEM THAT REALLY GOT US WHERE WE WERE AT BECAUSE THEY KEPT PILING UP.
WE WERE UTILIZING THE PREVIOUS RANKING SYSTEM.
MOST OF THEM WERE SCORING ZERO.
SO WE'VE TRIED TO UPDATE THAT RANKING SYSTEM BASED ON ADOPTED LAND USE PLANS BECAUSE ZONING IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW LAND USE.
WE HAVE TRIED TO COME THROUGH THAT AS BEST AS WE CAN ON THIS, AND WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE AND WE WILL PUT THAT ON THE PUBLIC.
AS ANDREA SAID, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT THROUGH THE COUNCIL COMMITTEES.
THEY HAD SOME CERTAIN, UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, COMMITTEE, THEY WANTED US TO BRING BACK MORE MATERIAL.
WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING THAT BACK.
AS I TOLD THEM PREVIOUSLY, MOST JURISDICTIONS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS RANKING.
COUNCIL INITIATES AFTER A PLAN.
WE HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING IT HERE.
SO WE HAVE TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT NOW HOW TO GET THROUGH THAT, THOSE RANKING OR THE LIST THAT WE HAVE.
AND, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A METHODOLOGY.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU'RE ASKING THIS BODY TO SAY THAT WE'VE ADOPTED NEW GUIDELINES THAT YOU'RE CLEARLY USING, YOU CLEARLY HAVE A RANKING SYSTEM OR YOU ASSIGN NUMERICAL VALUES TO THINGS AND YOU WON'T TELL US WHAT THAT IS.
THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING STRIKING THAT LANGUAGE.
I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO STRIKE THAT LANGUAGE IF IT'S CALLING CAUSING CONCERN.
AND IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.
FRANKLY, I JUST WANT THE INFORMATION.
I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW WE DO AND WE WILL GIVE THE INFORMATION.
I THINK WE HAVE A, THE MOTION MAKER HAS AN AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR THAT MAY CLARIFY SOME OF THIS.
I WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS JUST BEING DISCUSSED ON PAGE 10 UNDER NEW CRITERIA FOR PRIORITIZING AUTHORIZED HEARING, I WOULD MOVE TO AMEND THE LANGUAGE TO STATE THAT NEW CRITERIA FOR PRIORITIZING AUTHORIZED HEARINGS TO BE PROVIDED TO CITY PLAN COMMISSION AND POSTED TO THE WEBSITE 2026.
AND WE CAN MAKE THAT IN A PERFECT FIRST QUARTER IF WE WANT TO.
WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY DISCUSSION? OH, I MESSED UP.
JUST BEFORE WE GO ON THAT TO DISCUSS THAT GOTCHA.
BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE AMENDMENT.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR? YES.
UM, THE SUGGESTED LANGUAGE IS ON PAGE 10 TO KEEP THE BULLET POINT, NEW CRITERIA FOR PRIORITIZING AUTHORIZED HEARINGS TO REVISE THE STATEMENT TO SAY, STAFF DEVELOPMENT OF NEW CRITERIA FOR PRIORITIZING AUTHORIZED HEARING CASES TO BE PRESENTED TO CITY PLAN COMMISSION AND POSTED ON THE WEBSITE BEGINNING OF 2020, BEGINNING OF 2026.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YES.
ARE WE SAYING THAT EVERY, JUST TO BE PRESENTED IN 20 SEASON SIX OR EVERY TIME THAT MEET EVERYTHING RELATED TO EVERY TIME AUTHORIZED HEARINGS IS AUTHORIZED TO BE PRESENTED TO US? NO, JUST IT'S, IT'S THE CRITERIA.
THIS IS SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO HOW THE, THEIR, UM, STAFF IS PRIORITIZING HEARINGS THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE.
SO IT'S NOT CHANGING, AUTHORIZING THE HEARINGS TO DOING ANY, OR WHAT
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I'M SUGGESTING AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS SIMPLY HOW THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS ARE BEING PRIORITIZED AND WE DON'T HAVE THE CRITERIA THAT'S TO BE PRESENTED TO US FOR THE DEBATE OF THAT PARTICULAR ITEM AND THEN BE POSTED SO THAT THEY'RE JUST TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC.I, I I, I UNDERSTAND AND, AND, AND I THINK MY CAUSES CONCERN IS THAT I, I, EVERYTHING THAT SHE EXPLAINED, I LITERALLY UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE BECAUSE I'VE WENT THROUGH FIVE YEARS OF A AREA PLAN, WENT THROUGH THE AUTHORIZED HEARING PROJECT AND UNDERSTAND HOW THEY ARE NOW, UM, PRIORITIZING.
AND I UNDERSTOOD QUITE WELL WHAT THAT LEVEL IS BASED OFF OF, FORWARD DALLAS, BASED OFF OF THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEN BACKDOOR AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE DOING AN OVERALL CODE ENFORCEMENT.
AND SOME OF THESE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS ARE NOT GOING TO EVEN HAVE TO GO FORWARD BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE, BECAUSE WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT, AT, AT WHAT THE CITY LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW AND HOW WE CAN DO A CODE REFORM IN REAL TIME.
UM, DURING OUR AUTHORIZED HEARING, WE HAD THAT SAME SITUATION WHERE WE WEREN'T LOOKING AT PARKING.
WE WERE HOPING THAT THE CITY DID THE, BECAUSE WE WERE LAID BACK TO 51 8 AT THE PARKING WOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THE CITY AND NOT BY THE PD.
AND JUST SO HAPPENED AT THE LAST HOUR THAT DID HAPPEN.
UM, SO I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THE LANGUAGE NEEDS TO CHANGE BECAUSE MAYBE THERE USED TO BE A POLL ON, DID EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY HER, HER RANKING, WHAT THEY, SHE SAID THE RANKING SYSTEM IS.
THAT WAS NEVER EVEN ADDRESSED BEFORE WE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE ONE COMMISSIONER DOESN'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT THEY GAVE AN ANSWER.
I DO BELIEVE THAT I FULLY UNDERSTOOD IT AND MAYBE BECAUSE I AM IN DEPTH INSIDE OF A A, A AREA PLAN, HELPING MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THAT CONVERSATION IS HAPPENING IN REAL TIME AND OUR COMMUNITY AND WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO MAYBE THAT POLL NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE WE CHANGE THE LANGUAGE.
I DON'T THINK, JUST TO CLARIFY, I THINK THE MOTION IS TO GET THAT LANGUAGE IN WRITING TO US.
I I I THINK THAT BEFORE WE HAVE THAT LANGUAGE IN WRITING OR A CHANGE THAT WE HAVE THE FIR HAVE A MOTION AS IT RELATES TO WHO, UM, OR HAVING THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE RANKING SYSTEM BECAUSE I UNDERSTOOD IT FULLY WITHOUT ANY SECOND THOUGHT.
AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE REST OF THE TEAM DIDN'T.
SO BEFORE I CAN VOTE ON LANGUAGE, THAT NEEDS TO BE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THIS CAME UP.
COMMISSIONER FORSYTH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON IF SHE COULD, UH, CHANGE THE LANGUAGE OF THE SECOND READING TO INCLUDE A SPECIFIC DATE AS TO WHEN THIS, UH, REPORT WOULD BE PROVIDED TO US.
THE FIRST READING SAID, UH, WITHIN THE FIRST QUARTER, THE SECOND READING SAID AT THE, AT THE, UH, BEGINNING OF THE NEW YEAR.
I, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A, A SPECIFIC DATE.
I'M IF THE, IT'S THE WELL OF THE BODY TO SAY FIRST QUARTER 2026 AND STAFF THINKS THAT'S REASONABLE.
THAT'S A THREE MONTH TIME PERIOD THEN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING, OH, CHAIR RUBIN? YES.
NOT THE MAIN MOTION, RIGHT? CORRECT.
MY, MY COMMENT WAS ON THE MAIN MOTION.
HEARING THE, UM, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THE AMENDMENT.
ALL OPPOSED? OPPOSED? DO YOU HAVE, UM, 14 IN FAVOR? ONE OPPOSED? UM, SO DO WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION? OKAY.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THE AMENDED MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND GO TO, UM, UM, DISCUSSION WITH CHAIR RUBIN.
AND SORRY, I'M NOT THERE IN PERSON TODAY.
I HAVE A SICK KID AT HOME WHO IS NOW DOWN FOR A NAP.
UM, THIS IS MORE OF A META COMMENT.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE OUR, OUR ANNUAL REPORT SORT OF TURNS INTO THE EQUIVALENT OF AN OMNI, THE BUS BILL IN, IN CONGRESS, WHERE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AT CPC IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, I, I THINK THESE ARE ALL INCLUDING THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, YOU KNOW, SUPER IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF ANYONE ON THE BODY EVER HAS ANYTHING THAT THEY THINK NEEDS TO BE BRIEFED TO THE CPC, PLEASE DO FEEL FREE TO APPROACH ME TO APPROACH STAFF.
I THINK WE SOMETIMES UNDER UTILIZE BRIEFINGS AS A TOOL AND THAT ALLOWS, UH, YOU KNOW, US TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY WELL PREPARED TO, TO ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS.
I AM TRYING TO GET A BRIEFING SCHEDULED ON A, A COUPLE TOPICS THAT I THINK WILL BE OF INTEREST TO THE BODY IN EARLY 2026.
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HAPPY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TODAY ON THE AUTHORIZED HEARINGS, BUT WANNA ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A ONE TIME, ONCE A YEAR THING.IF PEOPLE WANT BRIEFINGS ON THINGS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF WOULD BE TWO.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED MOTION ON THE FLOOR? HEARING NONE, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE.
[Consideration of Appointments to CPC Committees]
I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO THE CPC COMMITTEE, UH, LILIANA.UH, CHAIR RUBEN WANTED ME TO READ IT, UM, INTO THE RECORD.
SO, UM, IT STARTS WITH ZAC, UH, THE CHAIR IS GONNA BE COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, UH, VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, WHEELER, REAGAN.
AND THEN IT'S, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER RYAN BARING AS A TECHNICAL EXPERTISE.
PAUL CARDIN, JETT MARKHAM NEIGHBORHOOD, ADAM LAMONT.
AND WE HAVE ONE POSITION TO BE DETERMINED.
UM, THEN WE HAVE FOR SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AS CHAIR, COMMISSIONER HALL, VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, COMMISSIONER SIMS, AND COMMISSIONER FORSYTH FOR S EXCUSE ME.
FOR S-S-D-A-C, WE HAVE, UH, COOKIE PEDEN AS CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN AS VICE CHAIR DAVID DAVID ALLEN, DUAZ ARCHITECT, TODD HARDEN, GRAPHIC DESIGNER MURPHY WEBSTER, SIGN INDUSTRY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AS AN ALTERNATE COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AS AN ALTERNATE COMMISSIONER HALL.
AS AN ALTERNATE FOR THE ARTS DISTRICT SIGN ADV ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE SARAH TERRY AS CHAIR JENNIFER SCRIPPS AS VICE CHAIR DIXIE WU.
WARREN RA SHALL BE A BETA GRA GRAHAM GREEN AS AN ALTERNATE.
CHRIS HEIN BALL AS AN ALTERNATE FOR THE THOROUGH FAIR COMMITTEE, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER KINGSTON AS CHAIR, COMMISSIONER SERRATO AS VICE CHAIR.
VICE CHAIR HERBERT, UH, COMMISSIONER COX, CHRISTINA CARDO.
FOR THE RULES COMMITTEE, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER SIMS AS CHAIR, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER AS VICE CHAIR RUBEN, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT AND COMMISSIONER HALL FOR THE PLANS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE VICE CHAIR HERBERT AS CHAIR, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN AS VICE CHAIR COMMISSIONER KONZ AS, UH, COMMISSIONER KONZ, UH, NELLY KUKA, NATHANIEL BARRETT, EMILY.
DAVID S DUN AS NEIGHBORHOOD J TAYLOR TECHNICAL AND ONE PENDING, UM, POSITION.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND UPDATE IT AND I'LL CIRCULATE IT TO THE COMMISSION.
SO BEFORE WE, UM, MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT, WE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
I WILL GIVE THE FLOOR OVER TO ANDREA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR AND CITY PLAN COMMISSION FOR ALLOWING ME TO KEEP YOU A FEW MORE MINUTES AFTER SUCH A DAY.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR VOLUNTEERING.
UM, I WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, PROBABLY SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW, TODAY IS THE LAST DAY FOR OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR, ANDREA GILLIS.
SHE'S LEAVING US FOR GREENER PASTURES, UM, TO DO PLANNING AND UPDATE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS IN, UH, OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
I JUST WANTED FIRST TO INFORM YOU SO YOU KNOW, UM, ANDREA HAD A TENURE WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR FOUR YEARS.
UH, WHEN SHE STARTED WITH US, AS YOU ALL REMEMBER, WE WERE STARTING FOR DALLAS UPDATE.
WE WERE ALL IN TRENCHES WITH WOKE UP WEST, UH, OAK LEAF AREA PLAN.
SOUTH DALLAS AREA PLAN WAS ALSO IN THE BEGINNINGS.
WE HAD A LITTLE BIT SOME CONTENTIOUS AUTHORIZED HEARINGS.
IT WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TEAM.
IT WAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT.
AND THANKS TO HER CAPABLE AND VERY TALENTED HANDS.
NOW WE HAVE A FOUR DALLAS THAT WAS APPROVED AND ALSO WON SOME AWARDS.
UM, WE HAVE A WEST AREA, WEST OAK CLIFF AREA PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED AND WAS FOLLOWED BY FIVE OR SIX AUTHORIZED HEARINGS IN A YEAR.
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HAVE AN APPROVED SOUTH DALLAS AREA PLAN, UM, AND A FEW VERY SIGNIFICANT AUTHORIZED HEARINGS IN ADDITION TO A LOT OF OTHER WONDERFUL CONTRIBUTIONS THAT ANDREA GAVE TO THE CITY.UM, I WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK HER FOR HER SERVICE AND FOR HER WORK WITH US.
WE HAVE A MORE WONDERFUL AND HEALTHIER TEAM BECAUSE OF HER GREAT TOUCH, HER EXPERTISE.
SHE'S A GREAT, GREAT EXPERT IN PLANNING ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
IT WILL BE A GREAT LOSS TO ALL OF US.
AND I WANNA THANK HER FOR THE HER SERVICE.
ANDREA, THE ANDREAS, LET ME INTRODUCE YOU ALL TO THE ANDREAS
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, BUT I WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH HER IN A VERY, UM, HOSTILE TIMES, SOMETIMES FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS WHEN I WAS THE CO-CHAIR OF THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA PLAN.
AND LET ME TELL YOU, WE WERE IN COVID AND THE FIRST SIX MONTHS NOBODY BELIEVED THAT THIS WAS A REAL AREA PLAN.
AND WE HAD EVERY RIGHT TO, BECAUSE AT THE TIME THE PUT DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE.
AND HERE COMES ANDREA AND WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA LIGHT HER UP.
BUT SHE CAME IN AND SHE DID HER RESEARCH.
SOUTH DALLAS HAD HAD OVER A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING AREA PLANS THAT DID NOT COME TO FRUITION.
AND SHE CAME IN AND SAID, NO, WE'RE GONNA DO AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT WE CAN DO NOW IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
AND THOSE THINGS TRULY HAPPENED.
WE BEGAN TO TRUST THE PROCESS AND WORKED VERY WELL.
PATRICK CAME OVER FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
I HAD HAD EXPERIENCES WITH HIM GOING IN, GETTING PERMITS FOR CLIENTS.
AND HE REALLY CAME, HE CAME IN KNOWING THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING BASED OFF OF WHAT OUR PD, HOW OUR PD AFFECTED THOSE PERMITS AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
BUT ANDREA WORKED WITH US, HELP EDUCATE US.
AT THE TIME I WAS PURSUING AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE IN ARCHITECTURAL DRAFTING.
DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHICH WAY I WAS GONNA GO AFTER THAT, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO GO INTO ARCHITECTURAL AND, BUT UTA SAID FOUR YEARS MANDATORY.
AND I WAS LIKE, I AM TOO OLD FOR FOUR YEARS.
AND I GOOGLED ARCHITECTURAL OTHER THINGS AND URBAN PLANNING CAME UP, HAD NEVER HEARD OF IT.
AND HER AND MISS BOWIE SAID, YOU ARE ALREADY AN URBAN PLANNER.
AND I WAS LIKE, FOR REAL? AND WATCHING THEM AND SEEING THE CHANGES IN EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THEY HAVE BEEN THERE.
I STARTED CPC DECEMBER, 2022, THE DAY THAT COUNCILMAN BA CALLED ME.
I ALSO GOT AN ACCEPTING LEVEL FOR UNT.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOBODY EVER TOLD ME ABOUT URBAN PLANNING.
NOBODY FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS HAD NEVER BEEN INVOLVED.
BUT THE TEAM THAT WAS CREATED UP UNDER ANDREA CAME IN AND I WAS KIND OF A LITTLE WILD.
I WAS PLANNING, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING, BUT I LOVED SOUTH DALLAS.
AND THE ONLY PD I HAD EVER HEARD OF WAS PD 5 9 5.
AND I I, I CHALLENGED THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN I MET HIM WHEN HE FIRST WAS RUNNING, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
BUT I CAN SAY THAT 48 YEARS OLD, I WENT BACK AND GOT A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN URBAN PLANNING.
BUT I DROVE TO DENTON EVERY DAY BECAUSE I WATCHED PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO CAME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WHEN I SAY CAME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HER AIRBNBS WERE LITERALLY IN EAST DALLAS.
I GOT MAD WHEN I FOUND OUT SHE WAS CATCHING A TRAIN AND SPENDING THE NIGHT IN EAST DALLAS WHEN SHE WOULD BE HERE ON HYBRID.
AND IT WAS CRAZY TO ME THAT SHE LIVED IN MY, WAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU WERE THERE WHEN I ENROLLED.
YOU WERE IN THERE WHEN THERE WOULD BE HEATED ASSIGNMENTS AND I COULDN'T GET THROUGH MATH
YOU WERE THERE AT GRADUATION DAY.
YOU AND THE PUT, NOT JUST YOU, BUT THE TEAM YOU CREATED DROVE TO DEN AT 8:00 AM TO BE AT GRADUATION.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT I ACHIEVED WAS A DIRECTLY ASSET BECAUSE OF THOSE IN PUT TODAY.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE, WHAT YOU DID FOR SOUTH DALLAS.
WHEN WE WERE THINKING WE WERE IN ANOTHER SINKING HOLE, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AREA.
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PD IS GOING FORWARD.PEOPLE ARE BELIEVING AGAIN THAT THE CHANGE CAN HAPPEN WITH THE WORK WITH THE CITY.
AND NEVER CAN PLANNING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT GO BACK TO WHAT THEY USED TO BE BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU DID IN THIS CITY.
I YOU CHANGED MY LIFE AND MANY OTHERS.
AND I, I, THE, THE DEFENSE THAT I HAVE OF YOU IS BECAUSE I SAW YOU COME IN, I REMEMBER NOBODY LIKED IT, THAT PARTICULAR PART OF PUB, BUT WE DIDN'T BELIEVE IN IT.
THEY WERE DOING WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.
BUT YOU CAME IN AND CAME, SAID, I WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WANT AND YOU HELP US CREATE, CREATE THOSE IDEAS UP UNDER LINDSEY AND PATRICK.
YOU WERE, YOU CHALLENGED THEM, UM, IN WAYS THAT OTHER HEADS HAD NOT.
AND YOU GOT SLACK ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES YOU WERE MAKING.
THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I PLAN NO, HOW I'M SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THAT UP.
WHEN YOU SEE A GANGSTER CRY, IT MAKE ME CRY.
UM, I THINK, UM, UH, CHAIR RUBIN HAS SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT BEFORE THAT, I THINK MY FIRST INTRODUCTION TO ANDREA.
ANDREA AND SHE WAS WITH LAWRENCE AT A COMMUNITY MEETING AND KIND OF ALL HELL BROKE LOOSE IN THE ROOM AND I REACTED, Y'ALL NOT GONNA TALK TO HIM LIKE THAT.
YOU'RE GONNA RESPECT EACH OTHER.
WE'RE GONNA BE WITH EACH OTHER.
AND SOMETHING CAME UP THAT WAS RADICAL, THAT WAS ABOUT THE, THE REDLINING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE IN SOUTH DALLAS AND THE SOUTHERN SECTOR HAVE BEEN IGNORED.
AND I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING AND I LOOKED AT ANDREA IN THE FACE AND SHE SHOOK HER HEAD AND I WENT OFF.
AND FROM THAT MOMENT, SHE INSTILLED IN ME CONFIDENCE TO SAY WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID AT THIS HORSESHOE AT AREA PLAN MEETINGS AROUND THE CITY, EVEN AT CITY COUNCIL.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS GIVING ME A VOICE, HANDING ME A BOOK, UM, SENDING ME A NOTE OF ENCOURAGEMENT.
I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR US.
WHEN I CAME HERE, ANDREA WAS, UM, I WAS A FAN OF HERS.
I WAS EXCITED, RIGHT? AND THEN I MET YOU AND I WAS LIKE, WAIT, THIS IS GOOD.
WE NEEDED YOU FOR, FOR DALLAS.
UM, IF, IF YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR DALLAS, AND PD 5 95 HAS BEEN, UH, INSTRUMENTAL FOR ME AS AN ADOPTED CHILD OF THIS CITY.
AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU GAVE THEM THE ATTENTION THEY NEEDED.
UM, BEFORE CHAIR RUBEN, ANYBODY ELSE ON THE HORSESHOE CHAIR? RUBEN, IT'S ALL YOURS.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A LITTLE HARD, BUT I'M GONNA DO MY BEST HERE.
UM, FIRST OFF, ANDREA, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY.
UM, FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS, YOU HAVE MOVED MOUNTAINS IN GETTING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THROUGH THE PROCESS, EVEN AT POINTS WHEN IT LOOKED, UM, VERY, VERY DICEY.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GET BACK TO FORWARD DALLAS IN, IN JUST A MINUTE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I I WANNA SAY FIRST YOU WERE THE PERSON WHO, YOU KNOW, CAUSED ME TO APPRECIATE THE IMPORTANCE OF PLANNING.
YOU KNOW, I HAD BEEN ON CPC FOR THREE YEARS AND HAD DONE A LOT, A LOT, A LOT OF ZONING.
BUT THAT PLANNING PIECE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT DIDN'T REALLY BECOME CONCRETE WITH ME UNTIL I STARTED SITTING DOWN WITH YOU.
UM, AT THE VERY, VERY BEGINNING OF THE FORWARD DALLAS PROCESS.
AND SO MANY THINGS CLICKED, UM, BECAUSE OF YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR WILLINGNESS AND YOUR ABILITY TO EXPLAIN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGING CONCEPTS IN, IN VERY PLAIN WAYS FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO DON'T HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL BLACK BACKGROUND IN PLANNING OR, OR DESIGN OR YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE RELATED FIELDS TO UNDERSTAND.
UM, I ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU SO, SO MUCH ON FOR DALLAS, UM, YOU, UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, I THINK THE TEAM REALLY DID A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING THE DOCUMENT TOGETHER, UM, SHEPHERDING IT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND REALLY PICKING UP FOR THE SLACK, I THINK, OF A CONSULTANT THAT ULTIMATELY WASN'T FIT FOR THE JOB AND REALLY DOING A LOT OF IT IN-HOUSE THAT WE EXPECT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, HANDLED BY A CAPABLE CONSULTANT.
SO YOU, YOU DID A HEAVIER LIFT THAN I THINK ANYONE EVER EXPECTED THERE.
I ALSO JUST WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR INTEGRITY SO MUCH.
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KNOW, YOU HAD TO GO INTO ROOMS WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE, DIDN'T JUST DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THINGS, BUT WERE OFTEN VERY, UM, UNPLEASANT.AND THAT'S PROBABLY PUTTING IT MILDLY IN THE WAY THAT THEY TREATED YOU DURING THAT FORWARD DALLAS PROCESS.
IT'S FINE FOR PEOPLE TO, TO DISAGREE ABOUT THOSE THINGS, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I SAW YOU, YOU KNOW, GET, I THINK TREATED IN AN UNFAIR WAY, I THINK YOU ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, STAYED ABOVE THE FRAY.
AND I KNOW YOU'VE TOLD ME MANY TIMES THAT YOU'VE BEEN FRUSTRATED, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU ULTIMATELY TREATED PEOPLE FAIRLY, PEOPLE, TREATED PEOPLE THE RIGHT WAY, EVEN WHEN THEY WEREN'T TREATING YOU LIKE THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THAT INTEGRITY AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE THE BIGGER PERSON IS, IS SO, SO IMPORTANT AND, AND SO KEY TO YOUR SUCCESS AND YOUR CREDIBILITY.
AND JUST ON THE INTEGRITY POINT, I I ALSO JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS PLANNING PROCESS IS, IS THE POLITICAL PROCESS.
AND I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, LESSER PLANNER THAN YOU BEND AND SOMETIMES EVEN BREAK UNDER, YOU KNOW, THE PRESSURE OF A BIG, UM, CONTROVERSIAL MATTER.
BUT YOU HAVE ALWAYS STUCK TO YOUR GUNS AS A PLANNING PROFESSIONAL, EVEN WHEN PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH YOU, EVEN WHEN PEOPLE VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE WITH YOU.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, WANT US TO GET THE BEST WORK PRODUCT FROM YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
AND THAT IS SO, SO VALUABLE TO THIS PROCESS.
AND I HOPE THAT YOUR SUCCESSOR WILL HAVE THE SAME INTEGRITY AND BACKBONE AND AND HONOR AS YOU DO.
SO AGAIN, I'M GONNA REALLY MISS WORKING WITH YOU.
UM, YOU DID A TREMENDOUS JOB ON FORWARD DALLAS, UM, SO HONORED TO WORK ON THAT WITH YOU.
AND I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK IN YOUR NEXT, UM, POSITION.
YOU DON'T, NO WORDS, NO COMMENT, NO SPEECH, SPEECH, SPEECH, SPEECH, SPEECH.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN, I TRIED THIS YESTERDAY AND IT GOT UGLY.
UM, SO FORGIVE ME IF I AM NOT VERY ELOQUENT, BUT, UM, AND I HAVE TO CUT IT SHORT.
I REALLY AM BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVERY DAY WE GET TO DO THIS.
UM, I THINK RATHER THAN ME, I MEAN, I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH AND THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY INCREDIBLE PEOPLE AND THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT TOOK A CHANCE ON ME AND US AGAIN, SOUTH DALLAS, A LOT OF FOLKS IN WEST DALLAS, A LOT OF FOLKS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT TOOK A CHANCE ON US AGAIN.
AND I AM SO THANKFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE PROVED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT THERE WAS NO REASON TO TAKE A CHANCE ON US.
AND YOU OPENED YOUR HOMES TO US YET ONCE AGAIN.
AND I THOUGHT WE DID REALLY GOOD WORK TOGETHER.
AND THAT IS WHAT I THINK IS THE POWER OF PLANNING WHEN WE DISARM OURSELVES, UM, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A NEW PATH FORWARD.
I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT PLANNING, AND I KNOW WE OFTEN DISAGREE.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHERE GOOD CONVERSATION COMES FROM.
UM, ONE THING THAT I WILL ASK WHEN I LEAVE AS I LEAVE, PLEASE BE GOOD TO OUR STAFF BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY, REALLY GOOD PEOPLE HERE.
AND I KNOW THAT WE GET THIS LIKE BACK AND FORTH AND WHY DID STAFF DO THIS AND STAFF THIS.
WE REALLY ARE JUST TRYING TO DO OUR BEST.
AND I KNOW WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE, AND I KNOW SOMETIMES WE MAKE MISTAKES, BUT OUR STAFF GENUINELY BELIEVES AND WANTS TO HELP AND THEY'RE REALLY GOOD.
AND I WANNA GROW THAT STAFF AND IN TO DO THAT, WE NEED PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU ALL AND WE'RE ON THE SAME TEAM.
AND I THINK IF WE THINK ABOUT THAT AND HOW WE WORK TOGETHER AND DISARM OURSELVES TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, KEEP DOING THE GOOD WORK THAT WE DO, THAT YOU ALL WILL CONTINUE TO DO AND DO THAT IN PARTNERSHIP, I JUST THINK THAT MAKES ALL OF THIS SO MUCH STRONGER.
PLEASE BE GOOD TO STAFF BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE GOOD FOLKS AND WE WANT THEM TO STAY BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE NOW, YOU KNOW, GROUNDING A LOT OF FOLKS AND GETTING A LOT MORE LONGEVITY AND THEY'RE HAPPY ABOUT THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK AND WE WANNA KEEP THEM HERE.
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THE WORK THAT YOU DO.THANK YOU FOR THE COMMITMENT TO YOUR DISTRICTS, TO THE CITY AND JUST TRYING TO TRUDGE THROUGH A LOT OF THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE.
AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK, UM, AND BATTLING AND BALANCING A LOT OF DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT, UM, OPINIONS AND IDEAS.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT WORK AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS WORK THAT I LOVE.
CAN YOU SAY SOUTH DALLAS ONE MORE TIME? SHE SAID IT RIGHT.
SO IF YOU'RE FROM SOUTH DALLAS, YOU DON'T SAY SOUTH OF DALLAS, YOU SAY SOUTH.
ALEX
WE GET THE, UM, THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA PLAN GETS, UH, THE DUNNIGAN AWARD NEXT, UH, ON THE NINTH WE GET TO RECEIVE THE AWARD FOR OUR AREA PLAN.
UM, THAT THE TRINITY PROJECT GOT LAST YEAR.
SO YEAH, WE GET THAT ON THE NINTH AT THE OPERA RAMP.
SO AT 2 43, I WILL, UM, ADJOURN THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION MEETING.
EVERYONE HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY SEASON.