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AND CAN YOU HEAR ME TOO? DIANE? THIS IS SARAH.[Trinity River Corridor Local Government Corporation Board on January 23, 2026.]
YES, YES.I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO TEASE YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHY IT MADE ME RELOAD EVERYTHING LIKE I'VE NEVER HAD, UH, WEBEX ON HERE.
THANK YOU FOR BRAVING THE WEATHER.
UH, THIS IS THE JANUARY MEETING OF THE TRINITY, LGC, UM, DR.
WE'RE GONNA CALL THIS TO ORDER IF ANYBODY'S TUNING IN.
WE HAVE SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, BUT WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON NOW.
UH, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THEIR AGENDA.
YOU ALSO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, GIVE A QUICK LOOK IF YOU HAVEN'T.
FIRST STEP IS PUBLIC SPEAKERS, BUT I'M TOLD WE DON'T HAVE ANY.
SO, MOVING ON, UM, LET'S, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT, IN YOUR PACKET, THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING.
GIVE A QUICK SCAN, AND WHEN SOMEONE'S READY, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
UH, HAVE A MOTION FROM GARY SECOND AND A SECOND FROM EDDIE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? WE HAVE APPROVED MINUTES.
UM, ON THE AGENDA THEN, UH, YOU'LL SEE IT, IT REALLY KIND OF FALLS INTO, INTO THREE CATEGORIES HERE.
WE HAVE SOME BUSINESS WE NEED TO ATTEND TO FOR THE COMING YEAR, UH, WHICH SHOULD ALL BE FAIRLY QUICK.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE AN UPDATE.
IT'S A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER ON THE AGENDA.
WE'RE GONNA GONNA SWAP, UH, ITEMS SEVEN AND EIGHT THERE.
OUR FRIENDS FROM THE TPC WILL GIVE US, UM, SOME POINTED UPDATES ON WHAT'S HAPPENED IN 2025, AND THEN LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT'S HAPPENING THIS YEAR.
AND THEN WE MOVE INTO A, A, A DISCUSSION ITEM.
UH, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO AT LEAST ONE OF THESE EVERY MEETING.
AND TODAY WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, UM, WHERE WE HAVE A SOON TO BE APPROVED WORKING GROUP, UH, ON THAT.
BUT WHERE IT'S BEEN AND WHERE IT'S GOING AT THE, AT THE HIGHER LEVEL.
UH, SO FIRST, LET'S MOVE INTO SOME OF THESE THINGS WE NEED TO DEAL WITH.
ALSO, IN YOUR PACKET, WE SHOULD HAVE, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE PROPOSED DATES FOR THE MEETING OF THIS GROUP, THE TRINITY, LGC, FOR ALL OF 2026.
AND FORMALLY, WE NEED TO APPROVE ALL OF THOSE DATES, INCLUDING THE VERY NEXT ONE COMING IN FEBRUARY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE AS IS BEFORE THAT TOO.
UM, CHAIRMAN AL, ANY KIND OF BIG CONFLICTS FROM ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WITH SOME OF THESE DATES, OF COURSE, WILL BE FLEXIBLE BASED ON CONTENT AND SCHEDULE, BUT JUST KEEPING WITH OUR CURRENT KIND OF FRIDAY SCHEDULE OF WHAT THIS IS.
I PURPORT THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE DATES ON THE LIST.
EDDIE, I'M FIRED TODAY ON, HE IS, HE, HE'S INTO IT.
EDDIE, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION.
AND TO THE POINT OF WHAT VICE JACKSON WAS REFERRING TO, JUST KEEP IN MIND WHAT OUR QUORUM IS NOW.
WE DO HAVE A FULL VOTE OF SEVEN MEMBERS, AND SO WE DO NEED FOUR PEOPLE FOR, FOR EVERY MEETING MOVING FORWARD.
WE HAVE ALL SEVEN HERE AGAIN TODAY, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
I KNOW, RIGHT? WE'RE ON A, WE'RE ON A STREET.
UH, THE NEXT UH, UH, SORT OF LOGISTICAL ITEM IS TO FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT IN 2025, AND THAT IS BOTH THE REALIGNMENT AND APPROVAL OF OUR WORKING GROUPS, AS WE CALL 'EM, OR SORT OF SUBCOMMITTEES, UH, AND THEN FORMALLY APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THOSE COMMITTEES.
EVERYONE SHOULD ALSO HAVE ANOTHER SHEET.
IT WAS ALSO DISTRIBUTED AHEAD OF TIME ON THE THREE COMMITTEES THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN 2025.
IT'S PROBABLY WORTH TAKING JUST A MOMENT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT THEY ARE.
UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE, UH, AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE, UH, WE APPROVE THEM.
THE FIRST IS WHAT WE REDESCRIBE AS THE BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, UH, WORKING GROUP.
WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THAT SHOULD BE STAFFED BY MYSELF, SARAH JACKSON AND, AND DIANE BUTLER.
UH, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE MUCH OF AN UPDATE ON THIS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT OUR DISCUSSION ITEM IS AT THE END OF TODAY, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE BULLET POINTS THERE AS TO WHAT THIS COVERS IN GENERAL.
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IT DEALS WITH OUR, UH, AGREEMENTS BOTH WITH THE CITY AND WITH TPC.WE'LL BE DEALING WITH THAT A LOT HERE IN THE SPRING OF 2026.
UH, IT ALSO HAS SPECIFIC OVERSIGHT WITH THE TPC FOR, UH, FUNDRAISING AND EXPENDITURES.
UH, THAT'S THE BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION TASK FORCE OR WORKING GROUP, UH, PARK EXCELLENCE.
UH, WE'LL HAVE GARY AND DIANE, AS WELL AS EDDIE.
WE ALSO ON THESE OTHER TWO, UH, HAVE SOME ALTERNATES IN CASE WE EVER HAVE ISSUES, UH, STAFFING IT.
AND SO MARTHA, UH, AGREED TO BE THE ALTERNATE THERE.
UH, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO SPEAK UP ON PARK EXCELLENCE, WHAT IT'S BEEN, WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE IN 2026? AND IF THERE ARE ANY CURRENT UPDATES? I'LL, I'LL SPEAK.
SO, SO FOR, FOR PARK EXCELLENCE, IT'S, IT'S, UH, THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OVERSEEING AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THE TBC HAS A DESIGN ADVOCACY COMMITTEE, AND SO IT'S REPRESENTED ON THAT, ON THAT BOARD.
UH, ALSO WORK WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND CITY STAFF IF NEEDED.
AND, AND THEN THE, UH, COLLABORATING WITH PAC CITY AND TPC ON, UH, THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN FOR LONG TERM VIABILITY PARK.
SO THOSE ARE THE FOUR MAIN ONES FOR THE, UH, FOR PARK EXPERTS.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME UPDATES SINCE OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING.
BIG PROGRESS WAS THAT THE, UH, THE PHASE TWO OR THE UTILITIES, CONSTRUCTION PERMITS ARE, HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY.
UH, SO WE HAVE THE, THE CONTRACTORS NOW ARE, ARE, UH, MARCHING SO THEY'VE CAN GO AHEAD AND START THE UTILITIES CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN, UH, LOTS OF MEETINGS.
PROBABLY A BETTER UPDATE, BUT LOTS OF MEETINGS ON PHASE THREE, WHICH IS THE BEST OVERLOOKING STUFF.
AND, UM, UH, REALLY ALIGNING FOR, UH, FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PERMITS FOR, FOR THAT, UH, PHASE AS WELL.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME DEPENDENCIES ON, ON SOME OF THE, UH, BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION WORK,
UM, CHECKING FOR OUR NEW FOLKS.
HOPEFULLY IT GETS A GOOD OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.
IT IS ONGOING AND ALSO FORWARD-LOOKING.
UM, THE LAST OF THE WORKING GROUPS IS EXTERNAL RELATIONS WITH SARAH, CHRIS, AND MARTHA.
UM, SARAH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KIND OF UPDATE EVERYONE ON WHAT THAT IS? YES.
AND, UH, FOR CHRIS AND MARTHA, ONCE WE APPROVE THESE WORK GROUPS, UH, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL ARE PLUGGED INTO THAT COMMITTEE WITH TPC.
UH, BUT WE MET, I THINK A COUPLE DAYS AGO NOW, UM, SOME UPDATES THAT CDC IS GONNA SHARE.
SO I DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO MUCH OF THEIR THUNDER, BUT THERE HAS BEEN GREAT PROGRESS, UM, AS FAR AS JUST, UH, WORK ON COMMUNICATIONS CONTINUES TO ADVANCE, BUT THEN ALSO, UH, SOME OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND BETTER ALIGNING SOME OF THE, UH, ENGAGEMENT AT CITY HALL.
OBVIOUSLY WITH, UH, SOME OF THE PRIORITIES NOT ONLY OF LBC, BUT ALSO WITH CPC.
SO MORE TO COME, TONY, I'LL LET YOU, UH, BRING IT HOME WITH, UH, THAT UPDATE, BUT IT WAS A PRODUCTIVE MEETING, UM, WITH THAT COMMITTEE, UH, EARLIER THIS WEEK.
AND IN TERMS OF THE PROPOSAL AND MOVING FORWARD, WHAT EXTERNAL RELATIONS IS, I'D SAY IT'S MOSTLY UNCHANGED AND WHERE IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S ALL HERE IN YOUR DOCUMENT AS WELL UNDER BULLET POINTS.
SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LOGISTICAL TO-DOS, UH, NOW THAT WE'VE SET THAT STAGE.
AND THE FIRST IS TO APPROVE THESE WORKING GROUPS AS IS.
SO ON THAT DOCUMENT, BASED ON THE DESCRIPTIONS YOU JUST HEARD, WE NEED TO APPROVE BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION ARC EXCELLENCE AND EXTERNAL RELATIONS AS FORMAL WORKING GROUPS OF THIS BODY.
SO I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DO SO.
I MOTION EDDIE IS INDEED ON FIRE.
UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
WE NOW HAVE THREE WORKING GROUPS.
CHAIRMAN, QUICK SAW BEFORE WE GO ON, I JUST WANNA FIRST THANK THE BOARD FOR THIS.
I THINK THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA MAKE THIS HOPEFULLY MORE EFFICIENT, NIMBLE, AND RESPONSIVE.
AND SO THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT GREAT DIALOGUE AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, THAT WE'RE FINDING THESE WORK GROUPS AND FOCUSED ON.
I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS IF WE NEED TO MODIFY THEM AGAIN BASED ON THIS ADVANCEMENTS AND EV EVOLUTION, WE CAN DO THAT.
SO THEY'RE NOT HARD AND FAST, BUT I THINK GOING INTO THIS YEAR, THEY'RE A GREAT STRUCTURE.
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I WOULD BE REMISS IF WE DID NOT THANK, UH, DINA ROI WITH THE CITY WHO, UH, MADE SENSE OF ALL THISUH, SARAH AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
OUR OUR WHOLE STAFF, WHOLE SUPPORT STAFF AT THE CITY SITTING MOSTLY BEHIND US AND OVER, OVER TO OUR RIGHT, UH, IS SO SUPPORTIVE ALL THE TIME.
BUT, BUT DINA IN PARTICULAR, UH, KEEPS OUR, OUR SHOES TIED AND, UH, IN THIS, IN THIS CASE, REALLY DID THE HEAVY LIFT TO PUT THIS IN PLACE.
UM, I ALSO WANNA PULL SOMETHING OUT OF WHAT, WHAT SARAH SAID THAT I THOUGHT, UH, WAS IMPORTANT.
AND THAT WAS OUR LAST MEETING.
WE HAD A VERY, UM, ACTIVE WORK FOCUSED SECTION OF THE MEETING WHERE WE PRODUCED, UH, THE DATA THAT THEN GOT
I LIKE THAT WE WEREN'T JUST DOING APPROVAL, BUT WE HAD REAL DISCUSSION.
AND I, I HOPE OUR MEETINGS GOING FORWARD.
SO INDEED TODAY THAT'S GONNA BE OUR LAST, UH, I AS WELL DO SOMETHING SIMILAR.
UH, THE OTHER LOGISTICAL POINT HERE IS TO FORMALLY APPOINT THE NAMES THAT SHOW UP UNDER THESE, UH, WORKING GROUPS SO THAT WE HAVE ASSIGNMENTS.
AND UNDER, AS A REMINDER, UNDER BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, IT'S MYSELF AND SARAH DIANE UNDER PARK EXCELLENCE.
IT'S DIANE, GARY, AND EDDIE WITH MARTHA AS AN ALTERNATE, AND THEN UNDER EXTERNAL RELATIONS WITH SARAH, CHRIS, AND MARTHA.
UM, WHY DON'T WE TAKE DISCUSSION FIRST.
DOES ANYONE HAVE PERHAPS IN REFERENCE TO YOURSELF,
THEN HOW ABOUT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS TO THE WORK GROUP? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
IT'S BECOMING JUST LIKE CLOCKWORK THAT THESE, THAT RIGHT SECOND
UH, AND DO I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM DIANE.
UH, ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
YEAH, WE NOW HAVE WORK GROUPS THAT ARE STAFFED.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA IS THIS OVERVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, BUT WE ARE GONNA SWAP THAT WITH THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS THE UPDATE ON HAROLDS SIMMONS' PARK WEST OVERLOOK.
THAT WAY WE CAN END WITH OUR DISCUSSION POINT.
AND SO TO UPDATE ON HAROLD SIMMONS, WE'VE ASKED OUR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUES FROM THE TPC TO JOIN US, UH, WITH SOME POINTED QUESTIONS, BUT ALSO ANYTHING THEY WANNA UPDATE US ON, UH, BELIEVE THE 2025 OR MOVING FORWARD IN 2026.
SO RIGHT NOW, UH, AS CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE TONY MOORE, CEO OF GC THANK YOU, BOARD CHAIR, DR.
KSAL, AND THANK YOU LGC BOARD FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE, UH, AN UPDATE.
I'M JOINED HERE WITH MARCUS STRO SHIRE, VICE PRESIDENT OF CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN AS WELL.
SO, UH, PER YOUR REQUEST, UM, DR.
KSAL, UH, 2025 HAS BEEN, UM, A VERY SIGNIFICANT YEAR FOR THIS PROJECT.
UM, IDENTIFYING WE HAVE HAD OUR FATIGUES OVER THE YEARS, BUT A FEW VERY IMPORTANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
ONE IN APRIL WE'RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A GROUNDBREAKING STATUS AND QUITE SIGNIFICANT IN BEING TANGIBLE ABLE TO BE ON OUR SIDE TO BREAK GROUND.
AND I'M FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT WITNESS BY JUST SHY OF 700 STAKEHOLDERS TO WITNESS THAT IT IS IN FACT HAPPENING.
UM, THE TPC TEAM MOVED PHYSICALLY ON SITE OF THE WEST OVERLOOK, AND NOW WE'RE OFFICE ON THE SITE, UM, WITH AN ADJACENT BUILDING.
AND SO WE'RE NOW ABLE TO WALK ONTO THE CONSTRUCTION SITE, WHICH IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
AND WE HAVE ALSO HAD MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF OUR NEARBY AND CLOSE BY COMMUNITIES, UM, VISITING WITH US AND USING THAT SITE, UM, FOR MEETINGS AS WELL.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, THANKS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, ACHIEVE OUR, UM, PHASED ONE PERMITS, WHICH PRIMARILY WAS ABOUT THE DEMOLITION OF THE SITE, AND MR. RAS SHIRE AND WORKING WITH HIS CONTRACTORS WERE ABLE TO CLEAR THE SITE.
AGAIN, ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT.
AND SO WITH THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENT OF SITES CLEARED, GROUNDBREAKING, UM, MARCUS PURSUED A WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.
A OUR PHASE TWO PERMITS, OUR NEXT SET OF PERMITS, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH OUR FRANCHISE UTILITIES AND SOME OF OUR GROUNDWORK.
AND AS, UM, ANDREW HAD MENTIONED WITH TREMENDOUS APPRECIATION, THE CITY OF DALLAS, WE DID RECEIVE THOSE PERMITS TO START OUR GROUNDWORK.
AND IF THINGS, UM, SCHEDULE WISE WE'RE ANTICIPATING STARTING THAT AS EARLY AS, UM, THREE TO FOUR WEEKS FROM DATE.
UM, SO FULLY ALIGNED PROGRESS, MOVING ALONG, MAKING SIGNIFICANT WORKS, AND THERE'S A LOT
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OF HARD WORK ON BEHALF OF, UM, BOTH TPC TEAM.UM, OUR CONTRACTORS ARE, UM, PRIMARY BEING BACK CONSTRUCTION, UM, HAVE BEEN WORKING ALONG WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, SO VERY, UM, EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UM, WHILE THOSE, UM, MOVEMENTS HAVE BEEN GOING, WE CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED WITH OUR COMMUNITY, ENSURING THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS ALIGNED AND AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, OUR NEARBY COMMUNITY AND HOW THE PARK WILL IMPACT.
AND SO A LOT OF COMMUNITY WORK CONTINUES ALONG THAT LINE.
AND LIKEWISE, UM, WE CONTINUE TO MOVE WITH OUR FUNDING.
NO FUNDING, NO PROJECT, UM, TO DATE.
UM, UH, 90 UH, 99% OF OUR FUNDS ARE BEEN PRIVATELY RAISED AND WE'RE ROUGHLY AT ABOUT 174 MILLION RAISED.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME OF THAT HAD TO ACCOUNT FOR ACQUISITION OF LAND AND SOME CARRY COSTS, BUT WE ARE IN A POSITION NOW WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO FUND OUR PACKAGE TWO COMPLETELY.
UM, IT'S A ONE YEAR CONSTRUCTION ON PACKAGE TWO LINEAR WISE, AND SO WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION IN FUNDING THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME SIGNIFICANT HURDLES STILL TO ACHIEVE IN BEING ABLE TO MOVE TO THE NEXT PACKAGE.
AND SO WE'RE EXPANDING OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM, I SHOULD SAY.
WE HAVE EXPANDED OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
UM, IF YOU'RE NOT A REALIZED FOLKS, UH, THE DALLAS MARKET IS A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE MARKET FROM A PHILANTHROPIC POINT OF VIEW.
THERE ARE A LOT OF MAJOR SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS GOING ON, WHICH SIGNIFIES A BIT OF A RISING TIDE OF WHAT, OF PUBLIC SPACES AND, UM, ATTRACTIONS FOR DALLAS WITH ALL THE GROWTH WE'RE HAVING.
AND THAT'S EXCELLENT FROM A CIVIC, UM, POINT OF VIEW, BUT IT ALSO MAKES IT A VERY COMPETITIVE MARKET.
AND SO WE'RE A FUNDRAISING FOR A PROJECT AND A MARKET THAT'S VERY COMPETITIVE.
AND SO WE INCREASE OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM LED PRIMARILY BY OUR CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER, LINDSAY ABERNATHY.
AND SO WE HAVE A TEAM OF SIX THAT'S VERY ENGAGED GOING OUT TRYING TO RAISE THOSE FUNDS.
UM, AS THIS, UH, BOARD ALREADY KNOWS, WE ARE PURSUING SOME ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE IN THIS, IN THE FORM OF CIVIC FUNDING FROM THE CITY.
UM, WE'RE IN DIALOGUE AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND AN ACTIVE APPLICATION TO SEE IF WE MAY GET SOME ASSISTANCE IN THAT REGARDS.
AND SO WE'RE HARD AT WORK WITH THE CITY AND ECO DEV AND FIGURING A PATH FORWARD IN THAT CAPACITY, BUT VERY IMPORTANT MOVEMENTS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE THE PROJECT ON.
UM, AS ANDREW MENTIONED THERE, THE PACKAGE THREE IS WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS THE HEART OF THE PARK THAT INVOLVES THE MOST ROBUST OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTIONS AND THE MOST, UM, ALLOCATION OF FUNDS AS WELL.
SO AS WE MANAGE OUR CASH FLOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOK WORKING AHEAD WITH THE CITY, UM, IN, IN WHAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE FORWARD ON OUR PERMITS REQUEST.
THERE ARE SOME HURDLES THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, CLEAR AND, UM, AS THIS, UH, BOARD KNOWS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND KNOWS AS IT IMPACTS, UM, VACATE AND THE BANDING OF SOME CITY ON LAND THAT'S TIED INTO THE, THE WEST OVERLOOK.
BUT ALL IN ALL, UM, THE PROJECT IS MOVING.
UM, THE TPC TEAM, WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION FOR MOVING ALONG.
WERE EYES WIDE OPEN AND FOCUS IN COMPLETION OF PACKAGE TWO.
WE'RE HEAVILY ENGAGED IN OUR FUNDRAISING, UM, TO GET TO PACKAGE THREE.
AND, UM, WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO BE A PART OF THIS, UM, AS WE MOVE ALONG.
IN TERMS OF GENERAL UPDATES, I THINK THAT IS IT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, UM, AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, THE DALLAS IN THIS SUMMER, WE'LL HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF EXPOSURE AROUND THE WORLD CUP THAT'S HAPPENING.
WE WILL NOT HAVE A TANGIBLE PART OF FOUR PARK OPEN, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO ENSURE THAT THE HAROLD SIMMONS PARK BRAND HAS EXPOSURE AND HOW WE COULD DO SOME PROGRAMMING ACTIVATION AROUND THE RON CURVE BRIDGE AREA AS WELL.
THAT WILL LEAD TO, AGAIN, EXPOSURE THAT THIS PROJECT IS HAPPENING.
AND THIS IS OUR GEOGRAPHY, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS ON THOSE ACTIVITIES AND THOSE ACTIVATIONS FOR WORLD CUP AS WELL.
UM, I THINK THAT ENDS OUR UPDATE.
UM, QUESTIONS I'LL, I'LL, I'LL START WITH ONE.
UH, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT A 175 MILLION IS WHERE YOU'RE SITTING NOW, AND THAT SHOULD COVER PHASE TWO, UH, PRE HANDILY.
UM, I KNOW THE TIMELINE FOR PHASE THREE IS A LITTLE UP IN THE AIR FOR THE REASONS YOU ALREADY DISCUSSED, MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
BUT DO YOU HAVE A, UH, ESTIMATION WITH BIG ERROR BARS ON THE PRICE TAG ASSOCIATED WITH
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PHASE THREE AND HOW THAT 175 MILLION, YOU KNOW, DOVETAILS INTO THAT? YEAH, SO A COUPLE THINGS TO PREFACE ON THE 175, IT'S 175 IN PLEDGED FUNDS.UM, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN CASH SITTING.
QUICK SAW, UM, WE CERTAINLY HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF CARRY COSTS INVOLVED WITH DESIGN COSTS THROUGH OUR, UH, DESIGN ARCHITECTS, MICHAEL BERG AND ASSOCIATES, AS WELL AS WE SPEND ABOUT $43 MILLION ON LAND.
SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, IN MOVING FORWARD, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FOR PHASE THREE, UM, WE'RE BUSY LOOKING AT OUR PHASE THREE.
UM, RIGHT NOW, ROUGH NUMBERS ARE SOMEWHERE AROUND 105 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE PHASE THREE.
THE LONGER THIS PROJECT GOES, THE GREATER THE COST.
YOU KNOW, UM, MATERIALS DON'T GO DOWN OVER TIME.
AND SO, UM, OFF THAT, WE HAVE ESTIMATED ROUGHLY ABOUT JUST SHY OF 70 MILLION TO BE RAISED TO GET US TO OPENING SOMETHING QUITE SIGNIFICANT.
AND THAT 70 MILLION OVER A THREE YEAR WINDOW IS VERY AGGRESSIVE.
THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR ANY PARTICIPATION OR CONTRIBUTION CIVICALLY.
AND SO WE'RE OPEN TO RECEIVE SOME OF THAT TO OFFSET.
UM, OUR, OUR, OUR PHILANTHROPIC GOAL FOR THIS YEAR, 2026 IS $20 MILLION.
AND, UM, AND WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S A VERY AMBITIOUS GOAL, BUT, UM, LISTEN, WE'RE FULLY PREGNANT WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, WE'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND WE'RE, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON WHAT OUR GOALS ARE AND HOW WE'LL ACHIEVE THAT OVER THE NEXT, UM, 12 MONTHS.
THAT, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
UH, AND JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE 70 MILLION YOU MENTIONED THAT THAT'S ON TOP OF THE 1 75 IN TERMS OF BUDGET THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
AND YOU SAID A $20 MILLION GOAL THIS YEAR.
UM, IF WE JUST PLAY THAT FORWARD TO GET TO THE 70, DO YOU HAVE A, AGAIN, BIG ERROR BARS, BUT A BUT A WORKING ESTIMATE ON TIMING OF THAT SIGNIFICANT OPEN THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES, WE ARE.
WE, YOU KNOW, THE, ROUGHLY, IF YOU SHOULD LINEAR OUT THE CONSTRUCTION WINDOW, EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED FOR WEST OVERLOOK IS ABOUT A FOUR AND A HALF, UM, YEAR, UM, PROJECT.
HOWEVER, WITH SENSITIVITY FOR THIS PROJECT, GETTING SOMETHING OPENED EARLY, UM, WORKING VERY CLOSE WITH MR. RAHAR HERE TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE AN EARLY OPENING, MAYBE WITHIN A THREE YEAR WINDOW OF SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL.
I'M NOT IN A POSITION TODAY THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS, BUT I CAN SAY WITH, WITH FULL TRANSPARENCY THAT WE'RE HAVING THOSE DIALOGUES TO SAY, CAN WE OPEN SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT THAT WILL BE WORLD CLASS, THAT WILL BE, UM, THAT WILL ALIGN TO THE ANTICIPATION OF THIS PROJECT IN AS EARLY AS THREE YEARS.
AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW.
THOSE LOOKING APPRECIATE THAT.
AND, UH, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE LED WITH THIS, BUT I THINK, I THINK THE LAST QUESTION, THE, THE PHASING, YOU KNOW, I THINK THOSE OF US WHO DEAL WITH THIS ON A DAILY BASIS SPEAK THAT LANGUAGE AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, BUT IT'S PROBABLY USEFUL TO HEAR ONCE HERE IN 2026 QUICK, YOU KNOW, REHASH OF WHAT THAT LANGUAGE MEANS, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST FEW PHASES.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED TO BRING UP, UH, DOCUMENTATION.
JUST, JUST HIGH LEVEL, COULD YOU DESCRIBE WHAT PHASE ONE WAS, WHAT YOU'RE STARTING IN A MONTH OR PHASE TWO, AND THEN THIS PHASE THREE THAT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANT FROM NICHE YOU TO OPEN WHAT THAT ENTAILED AND WHAT IT DOESN'T? SURE.
SO AS YOU KNOW, THE MASTER PLAN OF THE HAROLD SMITH PARK IS 250 ACRES.
UM, 200 OF THEM IS IN THE FLOODWAY, RIGHT? AND WE'RE, WE'RE WAITING FOR OUR FRIENDS FROM THE ARMY CORPS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AS THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE TO ADVISE WHAT THE FLOODWAY WILL LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF RECREATIONAL ENHANCEMENTS.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE MOVING ON THE DRY SIDE OF THE LEVEE, AND WE'RE, UM, WE, IF, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE MASTER PLAN, WE HAVE BASICALLY FOUR BUBBLES ON THE DRY SIDE, TWO ON THE WEST AND TWO ON THE EAST.
IT INVOLVES THE RON CURB BRIDGE, THANKS AGAIN TO THE CITY OF DALLAS IN ALLOWING US TO INCORPORATE THE RON CURB BRIDGE AND EAST TO WEST CONNECTOR DAY ONE.
AND SO, UM, WHAT WE ARE STARTING ON IS WHAT WE REFER, REFER TO AS THE WEST OVERLOOK.
THAT IS A 22 ACRE SITE, UM, WHERE COMMERCE STREET MEETS BECKLEY.
SO IF YOU ARE TRAVELING DUE WEST ACROSS COMMERCE STREET BRIDGE FROM THE JUSTICE SYSTEM ACROSS, OVER THE FLOODWAY, UM, AND YOU GET TO BICKLEY AND COMMERCE AT THAT RIGHT ANGLE, THERE IS A 22 ACRE SITE THAT STRETCH STARTS FROM THE LEVY ALL THE WAY BACK.
THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL SEE A CONSTRUCTION FENCE WHERE WE HAVE BROKEN GROUND.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE WILL START WITH, UM, PHASE ONE DEMOLITION
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HAS STARTED PHASE TWO IN A, IN A FEW WEEKS WE'LL START.AND, UM, AND THAT WILL BE WHAT WE'RE REFERENCE, THAT'S THE LARGEST, MOST CONTIGUOUS PART OF ALL OUR SITES.
AND QUITE HONESTLY, THAT IS WHAT WILL BE MOST RECOGNIZED AS THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT FOR HARL SIMMONS PARK.
AND SO THE ENTIRE 22 ACRES, UM, BY SCALE WILL BE THE LARGEST PARK IN DALLAS PERIOD.
UM, AND WE'RE HOPING TO AT LEAST GET HALF OF THAT OPENING THE FIRST HEART OF THE PARK IN, IN, IN, IN THE ROUGHLY THREE YEAR WINDOW.
UM, IT DOES NOT INVOLVE THE PERMITTING THAT'S ON THE, UM, EASTERN SIDE OF THE LEVY THAT TOUCHES THE LEVY THAT WILL CERTAINLY HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CORE.
IT'S THE PRIVATELY OWNED OPPOSITE SIDE OF PLY THAT WE'RE MOVING AND, AND THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE AND THE MOVE WITH SPEED AND GETTING SOMETHING BUILT.
THE REST WILL BE PHASED ACCORDINGLY IN A CLOCKWISE, UH, ORIENTATION WITH THE FELIX LAZADA, UM, AREA BEING NORTH OF THE WEST OVERLOOK.
AND THEN THE RON CURVE BRIDGE ROTATING AROUND WITH THE LAST PARCEL WILL BE THE 20 ACRES CITY OWNED LAND, UM, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND, AND ALWAYS NEVER MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT IS LITERALLY A 25 MINUTE WALK FROM THE, UM, THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE PLACE MAKING, YOU CAN SEE THE POTENTIAL, YOU CAN SEE THE SCALE.
UM, THIS PROMISE IS TO BE DALLAS'S LARGEST URBAN PARK AND WILL COMPLIMENT ALL THE EXISTING CLYDE WARREN AND OUR FRIENDS UP DOWN THE ROAD AT HELPER.
AND SO IT'S AN EXCITING TIME, UM, FOR DALLAS.
THIS HAS BEEN LONG COMING AND WE'RE ANXIOUS TO GET THIS OVER THE FINISH LINE AND THUS, EVEN WHILE WE'RE PRESSURING OURSELVES TO FIND A PATH FOR SOME FORM OF AN EARLY OPENING.
TRULY, UM, THAT'S A GOOD BIG PICTURE AND IT'S A LOT TO, UH, MAYBE EVEN OUR NEW BOOKS THAT, THAT THEY HADN'T HEARD EXCEPT FOR THEIR VISIT TO, TO COME SEE YOU, UH, WHICH THANK YOU FOR THAT AS WELL.
UH, JUST TO ZOOM IN HERE, UM, PHASES TWO AND THREE, UH, ON THE WEST OVERLOOK, YOU'RE REFERRING TO BOTH OF THOSE BEING WEST OF BECKLEY, AND THEN WHAT WOULD COME LATER, OF COURSE, THE OTHER THINGS AROUND THE, THE BROADER 1,050 ACRES, BUT ALSO THERE AT THE WEST OVERLOOK EAST OF BECKLEY IS, IS A LADDER PHASE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
SO THEN, IF TWO AND THREE ARE BOTH WEST OF BECKLEY, COULD YOU MAYBE DESCRIBE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN TWO AND THREE? I THINK IT'S HELPFUL AS SURE.
THOSE ARE BOTH, YOU KNOW, ONE IS DEFINITELY STARTING IN 2026.
AND THEN AS I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED, THERE'S A BIG PUSH TO GET THREE UNDERWAY THIS YEAR.
AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THIS GROUP, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE TO HELP YOU WITH, NEEDS TO PARTNER ON, I THINK UNDERSTANDING THAT IF IT'S BETWEEN WOULD BE GOOD.
SO MARK HAS INTELLIGENTLY DIVIDED A PROJECT IN SIX PHASES.
ONE FOR PARTICIPATION OF DIFFERENT SUBS AND TRADES.
TWO GIVES A CHANCE FROM A FUNDING POINT OF VIEW TO HAVE A LINEAR FOCUS THAT WE'RE NOT LOCKED IN.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE VERY TRANSPARENT IN SAYING THAT A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU START AND YOU'RE IN FULL BORE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO FINISH IT AND YOU'RE RUNNING THE TRAVEL PROBLEM.
SO PART OF THE, THE DESIGN THAT MR. RAHAR HAD WAS PHASE IT TO GIVE US THE CHANCE TO LOOK, TO FORECAST, TO CATCH UP, TO GO THE MOVE.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT SAID, AGAIN, PHASE ONE DEMOLITION, PHASE TWO, ALL THE FRANCHISE UTILITY WORK AND A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK, PHASE THREE STARTS THE ACTUAL PART OF THE PART WHAT I'D CALL THE VERY SIGNIFICANT CONSTRUCTION.
UM, I ALSO FAILED TO, TO MENTION PART OF THAT IS THE PLAYGROUND, OUR PLAY CODE.
UM, THIS WILL BE ONE OF DALLAS'S MOST SIGNIFICANT PLAY CODE, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE MOST REPEATABLE EXPERIENCE OF THE ENTIRE PARK WHERE FAMILIES COMING AND GOING.
WE HAVE STARTED WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE TOWERS.
UM, THERE ARE SIX TOWERS, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT BY THIS SUMMER TO HAVE FOUR OF THOSE SIX TOWERS COMPLETED.
SO THEY'RE ON THE FULL BORE FABRICATION WITH THE PLAYGROUND MANUFACTURING HERE.
JUST AGAIN, UH, ANOTHER TESTAMENT OF THE TANGIBILITY OF WHERE THE PROJECT IS, BUT ALL THE PLAYGROUND AND ALL THE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE EXCLUDING THE BUILDINGS IS WHAT WE WILL, WE'RE HOPING TO START ON THE PHASE THREE.
AND SO IN ESSENCE, UM, THAT WILL BE A, A FULL PARK EXPERIENCE.
IT WILL HAVE THE SPLASH PAD, THE EVENT LAWN, UM, SECTIONS OF THE, THE SHED.
IT WILL HAVE THE PLAYGROUND AND THE, THE PICNIC PAVILION.
AND THOSE ARE THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE PARK, WHAT IT WILL NOT HAVE IN THIS FIRST.
UM, AND WE'RE HOPING SHORTLY THEREAFTER THAT TO BRING THE BUILDINGS ON.
AND SO WE HAVE AN OPERATIONAL CONTINGENCY TO OPERATE THE HEART OF THE PARK.
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UM, EVERYTHING ON THE EAST SIDE PER YOUR STATEMENT, ANDREW, WILL GET DONE AS ONE COMPLETE PHASE AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ACROSS, UM, WITH THE LANDBRIDGE BRIDGING THAT TOWARDS THE, UM, THE FLOODWAY.EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, ANDREW, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT, UM, MARCUS HAS SHARED WITH US A MAP, PICTURE'S WORTH OF, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THIS.
I JUST THINK EVERYBODY HAS THIS IN THEIR HAND AND HELP TO CLARIFY WHAT THOSE PHASES ARE, WHAT SCOPE WITHIN EACH OF THOSE PHASES, ET CETERA.
SO JUST, JUST, JUST ONE TO NOTE THAT THAT'S AN ACCESSIBLE DOCUMENT THAT I THINK WE SHOULD ALL, UH, VALUE BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE ROADMAP FOR THE FUTURE.
UH, AND WE'VE SEEN IT, BUT I KNOW WE'VE SEEN IT WITH THEM, BUT I DID WANNA ALSO GET IT ON THE RECORD HERE,
UM, OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WELL, REFERRING TO THE TP, UH, GENTLEMEN, ANYTHING TO ADD BEFORE WE PART WAYS? NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK THIS BOARD FOR ALL THE SUPPORT.
UM, THESE PUBLIC PRIVATE INITIATIVES ARE TOUGH DEAL AND WE'RE TASKED WITH DELIVERING AN AWESOME PROJECT FOR DALLAS.
SO LGC LEADERSHIP BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU, TONY, AND THANK YOU BOTH AND, AND YOUR WHOLE CREW FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU 1 26.
UH, THAT THEN TAKES US BACK TO OUR SEVENTH POINT, I GUESS, ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
JUST A A, A QUICK KIND OF 50,000 FOOT VIEW INTRO INTO THIS.
YOU'LL SEE TWO SUB-BULLETS THERE, TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS.
UM, I THINK EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD, EVEN EVEN THE NEW FOLKS ARE WELL AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S BECOME CLEAR OVER THE LAST, FRANKLY, NUMBER OF YEARS, UH, THAT PERHAPS A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THESE REALLY ARE AND WHAT THEY AREN'T, UH, MAY ALLUDE ALL OF US, MYSELF INCLUDED.
UH, AND THAT WHAT'S IN THERE THAT, THAT WE ARE AWARE OF, UM, PROBABLY NEEDS SOME OPERATION.
AND WE'VE KNOWN THAT FOR SOME TIME.
WE HAVE HAD A SEPARATE COMMITTEE OR, OR SUBGROUP OR WORKING GROUP IN THE PAST DEDICATED TO JUST EDITING THESE DOCUMENTS.
AND NOW THAT'S BEEN ROLLED INTO OUR NEWLY GROUP BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND FRANKLY IS PROBABLY THE HIGHEST PRIORITY BULLET POINT FOR THAT, THAT GROUP.
UH, I'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF WORK WITH THIS IN THE PAST, AND DIANE HAS BEEN ON IT, UH, EVEN, EVEN LONGER THAN I HAVE.
AND SO WE'D LIKE TO LEAD A DISCUSSION, UH, REGARDING THESE, THESE DOCUMENTS QUICKLY.
THE TWO DOCUMENTS WE'RE REFERRING TO, ONE IS THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT USE AGREEMENTS, WHICH, UH, DIDN'T ACTUALLY FORM THE LGC, THE LGC, THAT WAS A SEPARATE ACT, BUT WHAT IT DID IS IT TASKED THE LGC WITH THE STUDENTS, AND THAT THEREFORE IS THE WORKING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THIS, THIS BOARD, THIS, THIS LGC, WELL, THE BOARD OF THE LGC, UH, SETTING UP THE PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP.
AND, UM, THEREFORE THIS IS A, A CITY COUNCIL LGC BOARD RELATIONSHIP, RIGHT? THE SECOND ONE THAT'S LISTED THERE IS THE PHASE ONE PREMISE, WHICH ACTUALLY THEORETICALLY BETWEEN RIGGERS, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UH, OBVIOUSLY HAD TO APPROVE IT.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE PROVING IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE LGC AND OUR IMPLEMENTING PARTNER THAT WE JUST HEARD FROM THE TPC PHASE ONE PREMISE.
WE USE INTERCHANGEABLY IN TWO WAYS.
WE USE IT ALL THE TIME TO REFER TO THE PHYSICAL LOCATION, AND WE USE IT TO REFER TO THIS DOCUMENT, MEANING WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THAT PHYSICAL LOCATION.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE MASTER USE AGREEMENT, WE HAVE, WE, THE LGC HAS BEEN CHARGED TO IMPLEMENT FROM THE CONFLUENCE OF THE ELM PORT TO THE FORMER, UH, RAILROAD BRIDGE, UH, JUST UPSTREAM FROM THE GREAT TRINITY FOREST.
THE PHASE ONE PREMISE, THEREFORE IS A SUBSET OF THAT, OKAY? THE DEF DEFINITION OF THAT GEOGRAPHIC SUBSET AND THE TASKING OF THE, OF THE TPC TO IMPLEMENT WITHIN IT IS WHAT THE BASE ONE PREMISES.
OKAY? WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ISSUES WITH BOTH OF THESE DOTS AS TIME HAS GONE ON.
IT'S BEEN EIGHT YEARS, UH, HAD A FEW THINGS HAPPEN IN THERE.
THAT LITTLE THING CALLED COVID, UH, A NON-TRIVIAL THING.
THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS GETTING A LARGE CITY OF DALLAS IS GETTING A LARGE SUM OF MONEY
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AND THE IMPLEMENTATION BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO LAY BACK THE LEVIES.UH, AND SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF UNDERSTANDABLE DELAYS, BUT OVER THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, UH, WE'VE LEARNED A LOT AND WE NEED TO OPERATE DIFFERENTLY.
IN FACT, FRANKLY, WE PROBABLY ARE ALREADY OPERATING DIFFERENTLY AND WE'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THESE GUYS AND WE KNOW THAT.
SO THE NEW BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION GROUP WANTS TO GO OFF AND WORK ON REMEDYING THESE PROBLEMS TO EVENTUALLY BRING IT BACK TO THIS WHOLE BOARD TO THEN APPROVE IT, TO SEND IT OFF TO CITY COUNCIL FORMALLY, HOPEFULLY
HOPEFULLY THEY WILL, UH, COVERING BOTH OF THESE AFTER ALREADY HAVING A A, YOU KNOW, A HALF FULL MEETING IN ONE LGC BOARD MEETING DIDN'T SEEM LIKE A GOOD PLAN.
THAT'S WHY IN DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY GONE TO YOU, YOU'LL SEE THEM BOTH.
IF WE NEED TO REFER TO THEM BOTH IN THIS DISCUSSION, THAT'S FINE, BUT THE GOAL TODAY REALLY IS TO FOCUS ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT USE AGREEMENT WITH THE PLAN IN FEBRUARY OF BRINGING UP, UH, THE PHASE ONE.
UM, YEAH, I, I, BEFORE WE START DISCUSSION, EVERYTHING ANDREW SAID IS ON POINT.
UH, BUT JUST SOME FOR FURTHER CONTEXT FOR THE BOARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS ANDREW, I THINK ALLUDED TO, WE ARE NOW AT A POINT, UM, YES, IT'S BEEN EIGHT YEARS, LOTS OF CHANGES INCLUDING THERE HAVE BEEN OBVIOUSLY CITY ELECTIONS THAT HAVE EVOLVED.
UM, AND WE WILL GET READY FOR ANOTHER CITY ELECTION IN A COUPLE YEARS, UH, ACTUALLY NEXT YEAR.
SO I SHARE THIS WITH YOU ALL BECAUSE, UH, THERE ARE SOME VERY KEY DECISIONS AS A BOARD THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THIS YEAR THAT GO BACK TO THIS AGREEMENT AS AND REALLY HIT ON.
AND SO, UH, NOT ONLY DO WE ARE ASKING THE ENTIRE BOARD TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF NOT JUST BOTH AGREEMENTS, BUT DEFINITELY THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SO THAT WE'RE ABLE AS AN LGC BE ABLE TO, UM, MAKE SMART DECISIONS, UH, FOR THE CITY AND I THINK, UH, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE ON BEHALF OF THIS PROJECT.
UH, AND TO THAT, THAT WAS THE OVERVIEW OF KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING THE NEXT TWO MONTHS AND WHY, AND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, I GUESS, THE SPOT OF, OF HISTORY ON THEM, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT USE AGREEMENT AND SORT OF WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT ISN'T AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, WHAT WE'RE WRESTLING WITH.
UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK DIANE TO, TO CHIME IN AND ANYWHERE, UH, SHE FEELS, UH, SHE CAN'T, I CAN CHIME IN AS WELL.
WE MAY BRING IN FRIENDS FROM THE CITY TO GIVE SOME, SOME FEEDBACK.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE, UM, UH, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE HIGH LEVEL ISSUES.
WE DON'T WANT TO GET WAY DOWN IN THE WEEDS.
WE DO HAVE A STANDALONE WORKING GROUP NOW TO DEAL WITH THIS, TO THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, BUT SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THAT COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON, I THINK IT'S, IT'S VALUABLE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE ISSUES.
SO DIANE, ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE A BIT OF AN UPDATE NOW? UM, ACTUALLY I'M NOT, I'M, I'M SORRY.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO LET YOU DEAL WITH IT.
UM, SO IT, IT, NO PROBLEM AT ALL, DIANE.
UM, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, IF YOU'LL JUST, UH, CHIME IN WITH YOUR OPINIONS JUST AS EVERYONE ELSE IS IN THE DISCUSSION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
GIVEN YOUR, YOUR HISTORY, UM, UH, WHAT VICE CHAIR JACKSON WAS REFERRING TO HERE IS THAT EVERYONE WAS CIRCULATED.
THESE, THEY'RE NOT PRINTED OUT HERE ON THE TABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE A BIT LENGTHY, BUT, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE, UH, PHASE ONE PREMISE AND THEN THE MASTER USE AGREEMENT.
MASTER DEVELOPMENT USE AGREEMENT IS AN APPENDIX WITHIN THAT.
UH, AND SO YOU SHOULD HAVE ALL OF THIS AVAILABLE TO YOU.
UM, OKAY, SO, UH, THIS IS MEANT TO BE AN OPEN DISCUSSION SO PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS AT ANY POINT, CHIME IN.
UH, THERE ARE SOME KNOWN ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY AND DEAL WITH, AND I CAN BRING THOSE UP.
BUT, UH, I SEE SARAH HAS ALREADY CLICKED YOUR SPEAKER.
UH, IF WE HAVE SOME COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS RIGHT OFF THE BAT, GO FOR IT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IT WAS AN ACCIDENT? JOKING.
UM, PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH DOCUMENTS.
UH, AS ANDREW SAID, THEY ARE LENGTHY.
UH, I THINK DINA DID HER BEST TO SEND US, UH, A VERSION THAT THAT IS JUST VERY DENSE.
UM, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS, I THINK JUST FOR EVERYONE'S KNOWLEDGE, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL JUST TO DO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE, UM, PHASE ONE PREMISES DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT DOCUMENT, AND THEN MAYBE SPEND THE MOST TIME TALKING ABOUT THE MASTER
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DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.WHICH IS THE, UH, LET'S SAY THE, UH, THE REAL PRIZE.
UH, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I, I'LL, I'LL SAY A FEW WORDS ON, ON THE PHASE ONE AND ANYONE ELSE, FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA GET VERY, VERY SPECIFIC HERE, BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF, AND I'M GONNA TURN THE CITY, IF ANYTHING WRONG, WROTE SOMETHING BACK THE HEAD, I CAN'T SEE YOU ALL THAT, UH, I KNOW, I KNOW.
IT'S, YOU CAN ALSO, IT'S VERY, VERY AWKWARD.
ANYWAY, UH, THE PHASE ONE PREMISE, AS I SAID, IT, IT IDENTIFIES A GEOGRAPHIC SUBSET THAT I, THAT I ALREADY DESCRIBED, BUT IT ALSO SORT OF, UH, IMPLIES THAT WE MUCH LIKE THE TPC IS DOING WITHIN THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION, WE CAN PHASE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN, UH, THE TRINITY FLOODWAY, UH, AND JUST OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE LEVIES ON CITY AND LAND.
EACH PHASE NEEDS TO GO IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL AS A SEPARATE DOCUMENT.
THIS IS THE FIRST, THIS DOCUMENT WENT THROUGH UNDER THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT USE AGREEMENT AS WHAT THIS BODY WILL WILL OVERSEE.
FIRST, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE MASTER, UH, DEVELOPMENT USE AGREEMENT THAT SAYS WE CAN'T MOVE ON TO PHASE TWO OR PHASE THREE.
UH, THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP AND TALKED ABOUT, PROBABLY AT LEAST STARTING TODAY.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL.
WE WOULD NEED A ANOTHER PHASE PREMISE AS ANOTHER SEPARATE DOCUMENT, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TPC.
THAT IS A, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED, UH, FOR THOSE PHASES.
SO WHAT THAT, WHAT ANY OF THOSE PHASES WOULD BE, INCLUDING THIS PHASE ONE IS THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THIS BODY AND WHAT HAPPENS DURING THAT FIRST PHASE, WHO WE CONTRACT WITH, UH, WHAT THE BOUNDS ON THEIR RELATIONSHIP MIGHT BE, UM, WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE, WHAT THEY'RE REPORTING TO US, AND ULTIMATELY TO CITY COUNCIL THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION IS, UM, UH, I'LL SAY THAT MOST OF WHAT BINDS US IN THE MASTER USE AGREEMENT FLOWS THROUGH AND BINDS OUR IMPLEMENTING PARTNERS THROUGH THE PHASE AGREEMENTS.
UM, MOST OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THIS BODY HAS, MOST OF THE REPORTING EXPECTATIONS THIS BODY HAS FLOWS THROUGH TO, TO, IN THIS CASE, TPC AND PHASE ONE, TO BUBBLE UP THROUGH US AND EVENTUALLY MAKE IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL, UM, AT A, AT A HIGH LEVEL, THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
WE CAN GET MORE SPECIFIC, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD SAY TO FEBRUARY.
IS THAT WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND, OR DO YOU HAVE OTHER COMMENTS? NO, I DEFINITELY HAD THAT, THAT WAS PERFECT.
UM, BUT WANNA SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE HERE BEFORE WE GET INTO THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO EVEN IF YOU THINK ABOUT FOR EVERYONE, UH, WHAT TPC SHARED WITH US IN THEIR UPDATE, IT REALLY WAS FOCUSED TO ANDREW'S CREDIT IN HIS QUESTIONING AROUND PHASE ONE.
AND SO AGAIN, THAT'S THAT DEVELOPMENT OF THE WEST OVERLOOK.
AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WE'RE ALL ALIGNED.
UH, BUT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PHASE ONE AND THAT THE PREMISE AGREEMENT THAT YOU ALL HAVE AVAILABLE? DIANE, YOU HAVE THAT TOO AS WELL, RIGHT? YES, I JUST GOT IT.
UM, ON THAT, I I WOULD, WE, WE'VE NOT SET THE AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY YET.
WE'VE REFERENCED A FEW TIMES HERE.
WE'VE SORT OF PLANNED TO PUT AN OPEN DISCUSSION OF THAT PHASE ONE PREMISE ON THE FEBRUARY, UH, AGENDA.
SO JUST GO AHEAD AND PLAN WITH THAT DOCUMENT.
YOU NOW HAVE TO, TO TAKE A GOOD THOROUGH LOOK AT, AT, UM, THE PHASE ONE DOCUMENT BEFORE FEBRUARY.
THAT SAID, I, I REALIZE NOT EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD, UH, IS FOCUSING ON THIS.
THIS IS REALLY, UH, GONNA FALL MORE HEAVILY ON MYSELF, SARAH, AND, AND DIANE.
WE WILL MEET AS A WORKING GROUP BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY, BUT TO BE BONED UP ON WHAT THE DISCUSSION WILL BE, I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
ACTUALLY, ONE MORE THING, UH, ANDREW, AS I'M JUST PERUSING, UM, THE PHASE ONE, THERE'S A PIECE IN THERE THAT I THINK, UH, I KNOW THE TWO OF US HAVE DISCUSSED, BUT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS AS A BOARD.
UM, THERE'S AN ITEM IN THE, UH, PREMISES AGREEMENT.
IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, ARTICLE FIVE THAT TALKS ABOUT FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES WITH THE CONSERVANCY.
UM, JUST A REMINDER, OBVIOUSLY TONY SHARED THEIR FUNDRAISING UPDATE.
THAT REMAINS A REALLY KEY PART OF THEIR FOCUS, I THINK, FOR THIS YEAR, AND FRANKLY IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS.
UM, IT SAYS HERE ABOUT US WORKING TOGETHER BETWEEN LVC AND THE CONSERVANCY AS FAR AS FUNDRAISING AND, AND REALLY US HAVING MORE, ALMOST A, A KEY ROLE AS LVC IN FUNDRAISING, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONSERVANCY BEING ABLE TO ASSIST US IN THOSE EFFORTS.
SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS
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AROUND THAT, I WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER REALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT I DO THINK THAT HAS BECOME INCREASINGLY MORE IMPORTANT.I THINK WHEN WE THINK ABOUT TONY'S REPORTS IN THE CROWDED FUNDRAISING SPACE THAT NOW EXISTS WITH NOT ONLY OTHER PARKS, BUT OTHER BIG INITIATIVES IN DALLAS.
UM, THIS WILL INCREASINGLY BECOME A, I THINK, MORE DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT FOR THE TPC TO FUNDRAISE FOR THIS PROJECT.
UH, AGREED ON ALL FRONTS, AND I, I'LL SAY IT MAYBE IN ANOTHER, THROUGH, THROUGH ANOTHER LENS, WE'D ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT PERHAPS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, LET'S, LET'S TAKE OWNERSHIP, MAYBE SOMETHING WE WEREN'T DOING A GOOD ENOUGH JOB OF.
AND YOU'LL NOTE, UH, UNDER THE BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS IS PULLED OUT TO, TO GIVE IT, UH, MORE GRAVITAS, WHICH IS THE, UH, TO OVERSEE FUNDRAISING AND FINANCE PART.
AND, UH, OUR PARTNERS ARE WILLINGLY PASSING US INFORMATION.
I KNOW THAT DIANE, WE, WE JUST RECEIVED, UH, SOME DETAILED INFORMATION FROM THEM.
WE HEARD A REPORT HERE, BUT I AGREE, SARAH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO STAY ON AND WE NEED TO MAKE, UH, A HIGHER PRIORITY, UM, BOTH THE OVERSIGHT, BUT ALSO PERHAPS PLAYING EVEN A MORE DIRECT ROLE IN THE, IN THE FUNDRAISING ITSELF.
ANDREW, I DO, I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, UH, DALLAS EDC HAS EVOLVED WITH, UM, LINDA MCMAHON'S LEADERSHIP, I'M JUST, UH, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR TONY.
UM, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UH, AN UPDATE ON THEIR POTENTIAL INVOLVEMENT AND HOW YOU SEE THEM BEING INVOLVED IN, IN THIS PROJECT? I, I, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, A GREAT POINT.
UM, I WOULD PROBABLY LEAVE IT TO TONY, OR IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS SOMETHING TO, TO GIVE ON IT, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN COMMENT ON IT OTHER THAN SAY, I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
YEAH, DIANE, IT'S A FABULOUS QUESTION, AND OBVIOUSLY LINDA MANN AND HER TEAM ARE DOING A, A TREMENDOUS JOB.
UM, I WOULD SAY THE WORK OF THE EDC, I KNOW RIGHT NOW THEY'RE FOCUSED ON ACTUALLY A STUDY FOR CITY HALL WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY MUCH SITTING.
AND SO I, I THINK THEY'VE GOT OTHER PRIORITIES.
UM, I I, I DON'T THINK THEY, I THINK IF NECESSARY, IF WE NEEDED TO TALK THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP, WE COULD.
UM, HOWEVER, I WOULD SAY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT TONY WAS TALKING ABOUT IS ACTUALLY MORE, UH, WITHIN THE CITY LED BY ONE OF THE ACMS. OKAY.
YEAH, THAT WAS, HE, HE MENTIONED IT IN HIS REPORT, SO YOUR THINKING WAS RIGHT ON POINT, BUT YEAH, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL CITY
OKAY, THEN FOR NOW, WE WILL PAUSE ON WHAT THE PHASE ONE PREMISE, UH, IS AND ISN'T AND WHAT THE ISSUES MIGHT BE.
UH, AND INSTEAD WE'LL MOVE, UH, TO THE DISCUSSION, UH, OR CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION, I GUESS, OF THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT USE AGREEMENT.
UM, UH, AGAIN, WHAT WHAT IS A VERY LONG DOCUMENT, WHAT THIS IS, UH, THEY'RE LARGE SECTIONS OF IT, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE REALLY EVEN NEED TO DISCUSS AND WON'T REQUIRE MUCH CHANGE, SORT OF THE INNER WORKINGS AND FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS GROUP AND OUR INTERFACE WITH, UH, BOTH CITY HALL AND, AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, BUT WE HAVE COME ACROSS SOME, SOME ISSUES AND, AND WE NEED, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THEM.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GET INTO ALL OF THEM HERE.
UH, THAT'S WHAT THE COMMITTEE'S FOR, BUT I DO WANNA BRING SOME UP BECAUSE THEY'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY COME UP IN THIS MEETING, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT.
UM, SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS PLACED ON THIS, THIS BOARD, UM, BY MASTER DEVELOPMENT USE AGREEMENT, UM, IN NO WAY SHOULD THE LGC IN THIS EFFORT BE DIRECTLY RAISING FUNDS.
NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN'T PLAY A ROLE IN, IN DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE WILL NOT SOLICIT FUNDS, WE WILL NOT MAINTAIN FUNDS OURSELVES, AND WE WILL NOT USE PUBLIC DOLLARS.
WE'LL NOT GO TO THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR MONEY.
THE HISTORY, WHEN THIS WAS SET UP, THERE WAS A, A, A BIT OF A PUSHBACK DUE TO PRIOR EFFORTS IN, UH, THE TRINITY AND UH, UH, UH, CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME, AND THE MAYOR BEING A LITTLE, UH, RETICENT TO, TO GLEN PUBLIC DOLLARS TOWARDS THIS.
THIS WAS ONE OF THE KEY POINTS TO GET THIS THROUGH ORIGINALLY.
AND SO IT IS, UH, IT HAS BEEN UNWAVERING FOR A PLUS YEAR.
WHEN YOU SAY FUNDS, IS THERE, IS THAT MEANING PRIVATE FUNDS, PHILANTHROPIC FUNDS, CITY FUNDS? CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC? SURE.
SO THE, THE LGC UNDER THE PHASE ONE PREMISE, THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT ALL, UH, HANDLING OF FUNDS WOULD BE OVERSEEN BY THE LGC, BUT DEALT WITH BY THE PARTNER
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C YEAH, YEAH.IN THE PHASE ONE PREMISE, NOT THE MATH PEACE AGREEMENT, WE'VE TASKED ALL OF THAT WITH YOU PC.
HOWEVER, AND, AND SO YES, WE CAN HOLD ON THAT.
UM, BUT FOR PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE ONLY THING WE'RE AUTHORIZED TO DO RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE NO NEED TO DO IT SUBCONTRACTING OR ALL UNDER THE MASSIVE MASTER USER DATA.
BUT ANYWHERE WE, THAT PHASE ONE IS BEYOND PUBLIC
SORRY, THESE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS, AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO CLARIFY.
THE REASON TO BRING THAT UP HERE, I SAID THINGS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED IN THIS, AND WHEN Y'ALL, CAN Y'ALL CLARIFY FEDERAL FUNDS, KIND OF WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? UH, OKAY.
I, SOMEBODY CALL ME ON THIS, IF WHAT I SAY IS WRONG, I DON'T, I WOULDN'T APPROACH THAT FROM WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT WHAT WE CAN'T AND WE JUST CAN'T DO CITY FUNDS, WHICH MEANS, UM, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S CITY COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER CITY FUNDS AND THAT'S WHAT THEY, UM, WHERE THIS CAME UP TODAY, WHERE IT'S COME, COME UP BEFORE, UH, EVERYBODY HEARD, AND IT WAS REPEATED AGAIN TO, TO DIANE, UH, ABOUT ECO DEV FUNDING.
AND TONY MOORE BROUGHT THIS UP.
UH, AND WHAT WE FIND, AND JUST FOLLOW UP WHAT HE ALREADY PUT ON THE RECORD TODAY, THAT THEY ARE, THEY HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO SOLICIT FUNDS FROM THE CITY, UH, AND BY WHAT WE JUST SAID, BECAUSE OUR MASTER USE AGREEMENT FLOWS THROUGH THE PHASE ONES OF 'EM THAT APPEARS TO BE OUT OF BOUND.
THERE'S A VERY SMALL BIT OF WIGGLE ROOM HERE.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S CORRECT OR NOT, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT UNDER THE MASTER USE AGREEMENT, WHAT WE HAVE OVERSIGHT OF IS THE DALLAS FLOODWAY UP TO THE LEVIES AND A QUARTER MILE OUTSIDE THE LEVIES IF THAT OUTSIDE THE LEVIES CITY OWNED LAND.
I THINK YOU PROBABLY HEARD, UH, IN THE PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE, THEIR DEFINITION OF PHASE TWO, UH, IT'S ALL WEST OF BECKLEY, AND HE SAID ALL PRIVATELY HELD LAND.
AND SO THERE'S THIS SMALL LITTLE NARROW DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE WALKING RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT THAT IS HOW THEY FEEL THAT THEY APPROACH, I'M GOING TO SAY VERY OPENLY, NOT EVERYONE AGREES WITH THIS
UH, I THINK ON THAT ISSUE, THAT'S, I DON'T NEED TO GO ANY FURTHER ON THAT THAN RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT IS AN ACTIVE PROBLEM THAT THE WORKING GROUP IS PLANNING TO ADDRESS.
THE REASON IT'S A PROBLEM IS FOR WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT UP BY THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT.
SO LET ME PAUSE THERE AND SAY COMMENTS OR QUESTION.
SO BY WAY OF US CONTRACTING WITH PPC FOR STATE FUNDS, THAT BY PROXY MAKES IT OFF LIMITS FOR THEM TO GO TO THE CITY FOR SOLICIT, SOLICIT FUNDING, BUT THIS YOU'RE SAYING IS PRIVATE OUTSIDE OF, SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I WANNA BE CAREFUL NOT TO OVERLY SPEAK FOR THE TC.
SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
I, I, I FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING THIS BECAUSE IT WAS SAID IN THIS MEETING ALREADY.
I'M JUST GONNA HAVE TO EXPAND ON IT.
SO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS THEIR TAKE.
THIS IS NOT MY TAKE
THEY HAVE LAND THAT THEY HAVE ACQUIRED AND THEY HAVE STARTED TO BUILD A PARK ON IT, ALL OF, IN THEIR WORDS.
ALL OF THAT, AT LEAST FOR THESE PHASES, IS CURRENTLY PRIVATE LAND, NOT CITY OWNED, WHICH MEANS WE ARE IN A BIT OF A GRAYER.
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OUR MANDATE IS ON CITY OWNED LAND, A QUARTER MILE FROM THE TOP OF THE LEVY THERE IN, NOW THERE'S SOME OTHER COMPOUNDING ISSUES, RIGHT? THEY RAISED FUNDS IN THE NAME OF THE NAMED PARK.AND SO THIS IS WHAT I MEAN, WE HAVE A RUG AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM, AND THIS IS WHY WE MOVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT OVER THESE
AND, AND CHRIS MOR TO YOUR QUESTION TOO, AND I, I KNOW, UH, WE'LL GET FURTHER CLARIFICATION FROM THE CITY, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS FUNDS, WHETHER CITY, STATE, FEDERAL, OR OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING EVEN PRIVATE, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING, AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE FUNDRAISING COMPONENTS OF THESE AGREEMENTS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER DISCUSSING OR AMENDING IF IT NEEDED TO BE, UH, THE BASE ON WHAT WE WOULD BE WORKING ON WITHIN THE CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT EXISTS TODAY.
SO I JUST WANTED, THERE CAN BE VARIED FUNDS, IT JUST HAS TO FIT WITHIN THE THOUGHTS.
JUST SO WE HIT SOME OF THE OTHER POINTS THAT ARE IN THE MATCH ABUSE AGREEMENT, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WILL NEED ANY CHANGES, BUT AS OTHER EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT MAY APPEAR OUT OF COMPLIANCE, BUT AS YOU WALK THIS FINE LINE, AT LEAST FOR NOW, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT THAT GRAY AREA.
THERE'S A SERIES OF REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FROM US, THE CITY, BUT AGAIN, FLOWS THROUGH UNDER THE, UNDER THE PHASE ONE AROUND SELECTION OF CONTRACTORS.
UH, AS YOU CAN HEAR, NOT ONLY WE SELECTED, BUT THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING, UM, REPORTING.
WE, WE DID FINALLY REPORT TO THE TRANSPORTATION BOARD LAST SPRING.
UH, BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST THAT NEEDS TO BE MORE REGULAR.
UH, AND EVENTUALLY WE NEED MORE INFORMATION GOING BACK TO, UH, CITY COUNCIL.
AND SO ALL OF THOSE I DON'T THINK ARE, ARE QUESTION MARKS, BUT RATHER, UM, AS WE REDO OR MAKE ALTERATIONS, EITHER THESE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE, UH, JUST AS A NOTE AT SOME POINT, AND AGAIN, THIS WASN'T SAID TODAY, BUT I THINK IT WAS IMPLIED, AND IT HAS BEEN SAID ON THE RECORD BEFORE, IT IS THE INTENT OF THE TPC FOR THAT PRIVATELY HELD LAND TO EVENTUALLY BECOME PUBLIC.
UM, THOSE ARE THEIR WORDS HOLDING THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID IN THIS, IN THIS ROOM.
I, YES, BUT, AND TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THAT IS, IT'S STILL A QUESTION, BUT I, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE MAY BE OPEN TO, RIGHT? BUT, BUT NOT NOTICE NEXT CURRENT RESTRICTION ON THE MASTER, UH, DEVELOPMENT LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY MECHANISM FOR PRIVATE LAND FOOD.
THESE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS BY THE WAY.
AND IF THEY DONATE IT, THEN THAT ALLOWS FUNDS FROM CITY TO FLOW IN, CORRECT? NO, NO, NO.
SO HAVE WE IDENTIFIED ALL THE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED? WE HAVE NOT.
WE HAVE A VERY LONG RUNNING LIST AND THE NEW INCARNATION OF THE BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION WORK GROUP, WHICH WE JUST FORMALIZED NEEDS TO MEET, UH, AND MERGE WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST WITH A LOT OF BULLET POINTS THAT YOU'VE HAD FROM WONDERFUL CITY STAFF TO HELP US IDENTIFY OTHER ISSUES.
AND GARY, I WOULD, JUST TO ADD ON TO CHAIRMAN SAL'S COMMENTS, I, YOU KNOW, NOT CHAIRMAN QUISO IS OUR CHAIRMAN, AND, AND HE AND I HAVE, ARE PRETTY ALIGNED.
UM, AND I HOPE I'M NOT STEPPING OUT OF BOUNDS BY SAYING THIS, BUT I WOULD SAY FOR THIS YEAR, UM, THIS MASTER AGREEMENT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND ANY MODIFICATION SHOULD BE SEEN AS A PRIORITY FOR EVERY BOARD MEMBER.
UM, AND SO EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT ON THE WORK GROUP, UH, IF YOU CAN, THE EXTENT TO WHICH YOU HAVE THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS, REALLY GREAT QUESTIONS LIKE GARY AND CHRIS, UH, WE NEED TO BE RAISING THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE NEED TO BE WORKING THROUGH THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND, UM, I HAVE LOBBIED, UH, OUR, OUR DEAR CHAIRMAN HERE FOR MORE TIME AND SPACE AS A BOARD FOR US TO, TO DISCUSS THESE.
UM, THIS SHOULD BE SEEN AS THE UTMOST PRIORITY FOR US AS YEAR.
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SO FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW, WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER IN MY UPDATE WAS THE, THE PERMITTING FOR PHASE THREE AND THE CONSTRUCTION IS DEPENDENT ON EACH STANDARD WE COMPLETED FOR, SO DID EVERYBODY SIGNEDWE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GET IT ALL THE WAY INTO THE MECHANICS AS AS TO WHY, BUT THERE IS A, THERE IS AN IMPASSABLE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT THE TPC IDENTIFIES PHASE THREE AS THEY KEPT CALLING IT THE HEART OF THE PARK AND, AND THE LINCHPIN TO OPEN SOMETHING WOULD BE PHASE THREE.
AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE WAY OF DOING THAT, UM, I, I'M BEING NONDESCRIPT BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHICH WAY WE GO.
IT WOULD BE ONE THING OR ANOTHER, BUT REGARDLESS, THERE IS A BARRIER.
WE REALLY WANT TO OPEN SOME FORM OF A
UH, WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THIS.
AND SO THIS IS WHY THIS IS NOT JUST A 20 POINT
BUT I WOULD SAY TOO, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF PUT PIECES TO, I THINK ANDREW HAS DONE A GREAT JOB CONNECTING PIECES FROM T PC'S UPDATE TODAY.
UH, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GO AS A LGC THIS YEAR.
UH, LGC IS STILL, OR TPC IS STILL MOVING THIS YEAR.
UH, YOU PROBABLY HEARD TONY TALKING ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND, UM, THAT IS EXPECTED TO COME, I THINK HE SAID SUMMER THIS YEAR.
THEY EXPECT THE DELIVERY OF THAT PLAYGROUND, WHICH IS AGAIN, A, A, A CORNERSTONE, A KEY PIECE.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO ACTUALLY FUNDRAISING FOR ASPECTS OF THE PLAYGROUND.
HOWEVER, TO ANDREW'S POINT, THERE'S SORT OF MORE GLOBAL ISSUES TO ADDRESS, TO KEEP THINGS MOVING.
SO YOU, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
WELL, FINISH, FINISH YOUR QUESTION THAT I YEAH.
WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET A SENSE FOR IS, IS THAT HOW FAR ALONG ARE WE ON, ON WHAT WE KNOW NEED TO BE? YEAH.
SO J JUST TO BE CLEAR, JJ JUST SO YOUR QUESTION'S NOT MISINTERPRETED, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN NO FORMAL MODIFICATIONS MADE, MEANING NOTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED.
THERE'S BEEN EDITING AND DRAFTING.
AND, AND IDENTIFICATION WITHIN THE CURRENT OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE EDITING PART.
IS WHAT I WAS, UM, UH, I MEAN I DON'T, I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW HOW TO QUANTIFY THAT, BUT OUR EFFORTS OVER WHAT WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS TO IDENTIFY A, A SERIES OF THINGS, SOME OF WHICH ARE VERY NON-CONTROVERSIAL AND, AND JUST LANGUAGE CHANGES, UH, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, TOOK MANY YEARS BUT WAS NOT, WAS STILL NOT COMPLETE.
AND MORE RECENTLY, THANKS AGAIN TO HELP FROM CITY STAFF.
I THINK WE NOW HAVE ALL OF, I'LL PUT THAT IN QUOTES, WE SHOULD SEE, BUT I THINK ALL OF THE PROBLEMS IDENTIFIED, WE NOW NEED TO SIT AS A WORKING GROUP AND ALTER THE NEW DATA, YOU KNOW, THE NEW POINTS THAT HAVE COME IN AND ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY CHANGE THE LANGUAGE.
IT THEN WILL NEED TO CYCLE, UH, THE CITY LAWYERS.
IT CAN THEN COME HERE, IT CAN THEN GO TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT, BUT THE IDENTIFICATION PROCESS IS NEARLY THERE.
WE JUST NEED TO GET TOGETHER AS THIS GROUP TO SORT OF AGREE ON WHICH ONES WE WANT AND WHICH ONES WE DON'T.
AND SUGGEST SUGGESTING LANGUAGE.
UH, AND, AND IS THERE A WAY TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THE, THE POINTS WITHIN THE LANGUAGE THAT WE NEED TO ATTACK THAT IS MORE CONTROVERSIAL IF THE NON-CONTROVERSIAL ONES ARE GONNA BE EASY TO MODIFY AND CHANGE? WHAT ARE THE MAJOR POINT? CAN I ASK THAT QUESTION? YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE THAT SITTING HERE TODAY.
I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT OUR COMMITTEE OR OUR WORKING GROUP SHOULD BRING BACK TO THIS GROUP.
AND I, I, I LIKE THAT IDEA OF SORT OF NOT JUST REDLINING LIKE YOU MIGHT ON A CONTRACT, BUT, BUT RATHER PRIORITIZATION, RIGHT? SHOW ALL THE CHANGES, BUT THEN HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT ARE IN DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, THERE'S, IT'S LEGAL LANGUAGE.
ARE WE EXPERT AT LEGAL LANGUAGE, LEGAL INTERPRET.
SO HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD AS A ENTITY APPROVED THEY ASSIST? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERENCING.
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IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY LAWYERS, I MEAN IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY LAWYERS.I'M LOOKING BACK AT THE BACK TABLE'S, NOT LIKE CERTAIN AREAS.
AND, AND TO THAT POINT, EDDIE, LET ME, LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING I SAID A MOMENT AGO.
I SAID THE WORKING GROUP WILL COME UP WITH SOME LANGUAGE.
I DON'T MEAN THE FINAL LANGUAGE, UH, THAT WILL THEN BE PUT INTO LEGALESE, RIGHT? WE'RE GONNA PUT THE SUGGESTIONS AND BRING IT DEAR AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY.
CITY LAWYERS ARE GONNA PUT IT IN THE FORMAT THAT LEADS.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO LIKE GET MY HEAD AROUND ALL THIS.
IF WE START WITH THE END IN MIND, RIGHT? WHAT WE'RE TRYING, I THINK WE'RE ALL IN IT WITH THE, THE, THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? WHERE EVERYBODY'S HERE TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE A COMMON GOAL.
WITH THAT END IN MIND, CITY STAFF IS GOING TO IDENTIFY THE HURDLE THAT MAKES IT SIMPLE FOR US TO JUMP OVER, RIGHT? SO IF WE CAN IDENTIFY WHAT THE END OF OUR END GOAL IS TO THEN DEFINE WHAT THOSE CHALLENGES ARE, THEN WE CAN ATTACK COLLECTIVELY WHAT THE, THE LANGUAGE IS.
UH, I'M A FAN OF STEVEN COVEY MYSELF, BUT I WANNA JUST KIND OF THROW ONE PIECE IN EDDIE TOO, UH, THAT I KNOW AMY AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT IS THERE IS SOME KIND OF STEPPING EVEN FURTHER BACK FROM BEGINNING WITH THE ENDING MIND FROM A 50,000 FOOT PERSPECTIVE WITH AS A BOARD.
NOW THAT WE'VE HAD, GOING BACK TO AMY'S EARLIER COMMENTS, WE'VE HAD EIGHT YEARS TO SEE HOW THE CURRENT AGREEMENT HAVE WORKED OR NOW, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE SORT OF END GOAL.
I THINK WE AS A BOARD, UM, AND I KNOW DIANE, YOU CAN HEAR US, NEED TO THINK SORT OF BIG PICTURE.
HOW DOES THIS ENTITY LGC TO FUNCTION TO CONTINUE SUCCESS FOR NOT ONLY PHASE ONE, BUT SUBSEQUENT PHASES OF THIS PART MM-HMM
UM, IN THIS RECREATION AREA PER ARM MANDATE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UM, I THINK THERE IS, THAT IS THAT LARGER STRATEGIC PIECE OF WHAT IS THIS RIGHT? AS A BODY? AND THEN TO YOUR COMMENTS, EDDIE, THEN LOOKING AT THE HURDLES THAT COULD GIVE US GUIDANCE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND MAYBE IT WAS A COLLECTIVE BODY SOLVING THOSE ISSUES.
DOES THAT ALL MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? YEAH.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD, EDDIE, YOU'RE YOU'RE WAY FORWARD.
I, I COMPLETELY AGREE AS WELL.
I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT AT LEAST, MAYBE NOT ON THE SUPER SCALE, BUT ON THE SCALE THAT I THINK YOU WERE REFERRING TO WE'RE, WE'RE DOWN THAT ROAD.
THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE PROBLEM, THE CITY STAFF AS YOU WERE SAYING, THAT HAS ACTUALLY ALREADY COME.
AND THAT IS NOW SITTING WITH THE BRAND NEW APPROVED WORKING.
WE JUST NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND SAVE EVERYONE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND COME BACK HERE TO SOMETHING MORE MM-HMM
AND WE'RE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THAT, THAT PROGRESSION IS, WE DO HAVE A DETAILED LIST, SOME OF WHICH WE IDENTIFIED IN THE PAST, A LOT OF WHAT THE CITY HAS HELPED US WITH
I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP THINGS MOVING AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS.
BUT I THINK A TIMELINE FOR US INTERNALLY IS CRITICAL AND A KIND OF A MACRO TIMELINE, INTEGRATING THE CITY STAFF INTO THIS EQUATION.
I, I HOPE WE GIVE THEM A DEADLINE AS WELL.
GIVE US DEADLINES SO THAT WE CAN ULTIMATELY COME OUT OF THIS QUICKER.
YEAH, I, I'D AGREE WITH EDDIE.
ALMOST LIKE A PROJECT MANAGEMENT, LIKE MM-HMM
SEEMS LIKE IT'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT STEPS, STAKEHOLDERS, PROCEDURES, PROCESSES.
'CAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE A GOAL, IT'S JUST GONNA CONTINUE YEAH.
TO GET KICKED DOWN DOWN THE LINE.
AND YOU HEARD WHAT TONY SAID THAT TIME IS MONEY, I THINK.
SO ONCE THE MODIFICATIONS ARE, ARE COMPLETED, AND SO WHAT'S THE APPROVAL PROCESS AND WHAT'S THE KIND THAT, UH, THAT'S IT.
SO POSSIBILITY CITY COUNCIL, BOTH, BOTH OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY COULD GO TOGETHER, BUT THEY'RE TREATED AS INDEPENDENT DOCUMENTS.
ANY CHANGE TO EITHER DOCUMENT HAS TO, AND TO THAT POINT, MY MINE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COMMITTEE THURSDAY NOT WORKING.
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SO AFTER IT, AFTER WE, AFTER WE SEND IT, AFTER WE SEND IT TO THE LAWYERS, ARE THEY GONNA CIRCULATE IT BACK TO US OR CAN IT THEN GO TO CITY COUNCIL? UM, IT MAY DIANE ENTERS, UH, CONFIRM THE CITY STAFF RIGHT NOW.UM, IT MAY HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BACK AND FORTH TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
AND SO IT MAY NOT BE AS LINEAR AS ONE WOULD HOPE.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I WILL, ANDREW AND I WILL, I KNOW WE'VE GOTTA DO A LOT OF TALKING.
ANDREW AND I, I KNOW NOT EVERYBODY SEES THIS, BUT WE NEED A LOT, UH, OUTSIDE OF THESE MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF WITH TPC, UH, TO KEEP THESE CONVERSATIONS GOING.
UM, NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL BOARD, AS WE SAID, THIS HAS CHANGED THE GAME A BIT.
WE ARE ABLE TO MOVE THE WAY WE NEED TO MOVE, BUT THERE IS A LARGER ISSUE, UM, TO WHERE WE NEED FOR US TO AGREE ON AS A LARGER BOARD SO THAT WE'RE NOT IN THIS SITUATION.
EDDIE, TO YOUR POINT, EVERY TIME A PHASE NEEDS TO BE RECONSIDERED OR IS IN MOTION.
AND THIS AGREEMENT, I BELIEVE THE MS MASTER SERVICES MDA OKAY.
BETWEEN LGC AND CITI THAT WE'VE CONTRACTED TT C, DOES THAT AGREEMENT HAVE DPCS ADVICE OR IS THEY'RE JUST SEPARATE FROM THAT AGREEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT, WE CONTRACT WITH TTC.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT DO THEY GIVE INPUT OR WHATEVER TO THE AGREEMENT? YEAH.
UM, I MEAN, THEORETICALLY THERE ARE STAKEHOLDER, BUT AS, UH, THE CITY HAS CLARIFIED, YOU KNOW, REALLY THAT IS OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
AND SO WE ARE, AND WE CONTINUE TO BE THE BC'S LIAISON WITHIN THE CITY, WHICH IS, AND TO MORE, TO YOUR QUESTION, AND GARY ALSO JUST TO MANY OF YOUR, AND DIANE AS WELL IS PART OF THE CHALLENGE, RIGHT? BUT GIVEN THAT THERE ARE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, TPC, THEY ARE DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO REINFORCE OR HELP US TO IDENTIFY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE GO BACK WITH THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T BECOME ANOTHER HURDLE DOWN THE ROAD.
WE WANNA LIKE JUST OPEN ALL THESE CHALLENGES WE CAN.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING WITH IT, EDDIE.
AND IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU, WE CAN, AND WE HAVE, I THINK, CONFERRED WITH TPC.
I THINK OBVIOUSLY THEIR TIMELINE IS MUCH MORE EXPEDITED THAN OURS IS A CITY.
UH, BUT I'M GLAD THAT THERE'S SO MUCH DISCUSSION AROUND THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHY THESE CHALLENGES SO IMPORTANT TO HANDLE RIGHT NOW.
SO, CAN I ASK AN OBVIOUS QUESTION? WE WILL NOT SUCCEED UNLESS THIS LANGUAGE IS ALTERED, MODIFIED.
I MEAN, IN SHORT, WE CAN'T SHORT.
I, I THINK THERE ARE OPTIONS ON HOW, BUT IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE.
CAN'T GET PERMITTING BECAUSE HOW, HOW CAN THEY PERMIT SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T CONTROL? LIKE IT'S JUST PERPETUAL.
WE NEED THIS, THIS IS WHEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL, THAT'S, WE, THAT'S THE SLOGAN.
WE CANNOT SUCCEED WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, THE ADOPTION OF NEW LANGUAGE THAT WE CAN, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SAYING IT RIGHT, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT YEAH.
SO THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING AROUND ISSUES.
I JUST WANT TO GET THINGS MOVING.
BUT THIS IS ALSO WHY EDDIE, I THINK US AS A, AS A BODY THINKING ABOUT THESE AGREEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY IS, IS RISEN TO US, CONTINUES TO BE A QUESTION, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, LET'S GO, LET'S RUN.
UM, BUT AS MANY THINGS IN LIFE, WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, SORT OF WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF LEGAL DOCUMENTS AND LEGAL PERMISSIONS.
AND I THINK WHEN THIS DOCUMENT WAS CREATED EIGHT YEARS AGO, UM, AT THE TIME, AND MANY OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN IN, UH, LIKE CHAIRMAN QUICK SAW SINCE THE BEGINNING, KNOW THE WHOLE IDEA OF LGC WAS TO HELP THINGS, KEEP THINGS MOVING MM-HMM
BUT NOW WE'VE ARRIVED AT A SITUATION WHERE THAT'S NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT, RIGHT.
AND SO THERE IS A, THIS IS, I KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS LARGER MACRO STRATEGIC QUESTION OF PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, STAKEHOLDERS, ET CETERA, THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED FOR IN ADDITION TO THE TACTICAL, HOW WE GET THE PERMITTING AND THINGS NEED.
WELL, I DON'T, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANNA SHUT DOWN ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION ON THAT.
ANYBODY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAT DON? I I, I HAVE ONE OTHER THING RELATED TO THE, UH, MASTER DEVELOPMENT USE AGREEMENT.
BUT ON THAT ISSUE, I FEEL LIKE WE KIND OF CAME TO A, UH, A PAUSE, NOT A FINISH.
UH, IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS BROUGHT UP.
UH, UH, I, WE PLEDGE THAT THIS WORKING GROUP TO MEET BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY AND I WOULD TENTATIVELY INTO FORMALIZED AGENDA, SAY ABSOLUTELY WE WILL REPORT BACK.
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KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A SOFT VERSION OF IT, BUT MOVING INTO A PROJECT MANAGEMENT STYLE FOR THAT, FOR THAT, UH, RESPONSE IN FEBRUARY.SO I THINK AS A GROUP WE CAN, WE CAN FLEDGE TO DO THAT AS THAT WORKING GROUP.
I DON'T WANT TO CANNIBALIZE A LOT OF TIME FOR THE NEXT ONE.
I DO WANNA COME BACK WITH A REPORT NEXT.
ACCEPT THE BE BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION NEXT TIME ABOUT THE
DIANE, YOU INCLUDED, UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW YOUR SCHEDULE IS TIGHT, BUT ANDREW, AND KIND OF LAYING THIS OUT FOR THE BOARD, WHAT KIND OF FORMAT WOULD EVERYONE APPRECIATE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION THAT ANDREW'S OUTLYING? UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE A LONGER IN PERSON TO OUR MEETING? IS THIS SOMETHING Y'ALL THINK WE CAN DO WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF AN HOUR, AN HOUR AND A HALF DURING ONE OF OUR REGULAR MEETINGS? IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I THINK FROM A LEADERSHIP PERSPECTIVE.
SO WE KNOW HOW TO SET THINGS UP.
WELL, MAYBE IF Y'ALL MEET AS A WORKING GROUP AND KIND OF TO WHAT EDDIE SAID, KIND OF BULLET POINT OUT THE ISSUES AND KIND OF MAYBE LIKE HOW DINA SENT US SOME DOCUMENTS OR WHATEVER.
CAN WE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
CAN YOU'ALL SEND US THAT AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF BE UP TO SPEED AND THEN WHEN WE VISIT, WE HAVE KIND OF REVIEWED DOCUMENTS, REVIEWED RECOMMENDATIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THE WORKING GROUP.
AND WE CAN COME WITH A VERY TANGIBLE KIND OF WORK ROLLING UP YOUR SLEEVES ACTION ORIENTED DISCUSSION.
JUST KINDA WANNA PIGGYBACK ON WHAT CHRIS WAS SAYING.
UM, LIKE MY QUESTION WAS, UH, SINCE YOU'RE MEETING AS A GROUP, I, I LOVE EDDIE'S IDEA OF, OF DOING THE HIGHLIGHTING OF WHAT ARE THE PARTS THAT, THAT YOU, YOU HEAR FEEDBACK ON.
UM, COULD YOU ALSO KIND OF ADD SOME NOTES ON WHAT ARE THE PROS AND CONS TO WHAT IS THE SUGGESTED LANGUAGE THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S KIND OF LIKE THE MACRO, THERE'S A MACRO AND THE MICRO, THERE'S THE IMMEDIACY OF WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE.
UM, AND SO I WOULD LOVE KIND OF Y'ALL'S INSIGHTS AND THE CITIES ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE TRUE FOR US TO GET TO WHERE WE WANNA GET TO IN 2026, UH, AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE TRUE FOR KIND OF A LONGER PLAY ON THE ENTIRETY OF OUR ASSIGNMENT.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT, WHAT I HEAR IS WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE AMENDMENT AND UH, AGREEMENT FINALIZING THIS AGREEMENT IS AN URGENT, LIKE MUST DO NOW KIND OF TASK THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE ON AND, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH OUR FRIENDS AT ALL STAKEHOLDERS AND GET IT FINALIZED SO THAT THINGS CAN MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN MAYBE EVEN ALMOST LIKE THAT PROJECT MANAGEMENT THING WE TALKED ABOUT, MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS THAT OR NEXT, MAYBE SOME OF THE GROUNDWORK BEING LAID FOR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, BUT THAT'S A SUGGESTION.
THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION, CHRIS, BECAUSE, UM, AND MARCO TOO.
UM, IT ALSO CAN HELP US, ANDREW, IN TALKING TO TPC ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT NEED FROM THEM FOR THAT TO FORM THAT DISCUSSION FULLY.
SO THIS IS HELPFUL FROM ALL OF YOU.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL PLEDGE THE WORKING GROUP TO, UH, HAVE AS MUCH OF THAT DOCUMENTATION AS POSSIBLE TO, TO HAVE A, A STRONG CONVERSATION NEXT TIME ON THE PHASE ONE PREMISE, BUT ALSO THE UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.
UM, ONE OTHER COMMENT ABOUT THE NWA, UM, AGAIN, IT'S INTERFACE WITH THE PHASE ONE.
WE HAVE THIS CONTRACT WITH PPC TO MOVE FORWARD INTO PHASE ONE.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION UNDER THE MA IS THE INTEREST LEVEL OF THIS BODY TO MOVE BEYOND PHASE ONE THAT REQUIRES APPROVAL.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, WOULD WE WANT TO SOLICIT, UM, THE REASON THIS IS COMING UP, ANOTHER BIT OF BACKSTORY, UM, NOT GETTING SPECIFICS AT THIS FUND, BUT UH, FOR THE ARMY BOARD OF ENGINEERS CAN WORK IN, IN THE FLOODWAY AND THE LEVIES, THEY'RE, THEIR PROGRESS ON THAT HAS BEEN GREAT, BUT OF COURSE IT'S NOT HOMOGENOUS.
THERE ARE AREAS THAT FINISH EARLIER AND AREA THAT FINISH LATER IN THEIR PROGRESSION.
AND SOME AREAS WITHIN THE FLOODWAY ARE ACTUALLY
AND SO THE ABILITY FOR THIS GROUP TO OVERSEE FAR SMALLER PROJECTS THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AT CARTON PARK, BUT, BUT STILL PROJECTS BETWEEN THE LEVY OR ON THE LEVEE ONE, BUT OUTSIDE THE PHASE ONE PREMISE IS COMING OUT.
AND SO WE JUST NEED TO DECIDE IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO NOT, AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS AND THEY COME BACK WITH MORE SPECIFICS, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO GO
AND JUST TO, TO TO FURTHER, UM, PUNCTUATE WHAT ANDREW SAID, UM, WE CAN
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SAY WITH CERTAINTY THAT FOR TPC, THEIR PRIORITY IS PHASE ONE PERIOD FULL STOP.SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT IN AS A, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND, AND IN INDEED MOVING INTO OTHER PAGES, IT'S NOT REQUIRED THAT TT EVOLVE OR THEY COULD, THAT'S AN INDEPENDENT DECISION AT THOSE PHASE.
QUESTION AGAIN? YEAH, I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD BE INVOLVED, RIGHT? AND SO WE CAN KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE AND JUST GET THE LANGUAGE EFFECTIVE FOR PHASE ONE, BUT ALSO ALLOW US THE EFFECTIVENESS TO MOVE IN THE FUTURE PHASES.
LIKE IF YOU SAID IT COULD BE A SHADE STRUCTURE AND THE FELIX LODO SECTION OF THE LAND, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER, IT COULD BE A MINOR LITTLE THING THAT WE CAN'T GET ACCOMPLISHED IF THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, STRETCH BEYOND A PHASE ONE CONDITION.
SO I THINK IF WE COULD GET THE LANGUAGE TO BE EFFECTIVE AND FLUID FOR US FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, ONCE IT CHANGED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE GOAL.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, ADDIE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT TO ANDREW, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE APPETITE OF THE BOARD TO WORK BEYOND WORK, BEGIN WORK IN SUBSEQUENT, UM, PHASES OUTSIDE OF PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE CURRENT FOCUS AND PRIORITY OF TPC, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR, YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE INTEREST IN DOING THAT, IS THAT TRUE? JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO CONFIRM.
NO, I'M SAYING WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE EFFORT OF CHANGING LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT, WHICH CURRENTLY AFFECTS PHASE ONE.
IS THERE THE ABILITY AS WE'RE MAKING THE CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE FOR THE CONTRACT WHERE IT'S ADAPTABLE TO FUTURE PHASES, INCLUDING PHASE, THAT'S ALL.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT YEAH, YEAH.
I DON'T WANNA BE HELD UP AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO ANOTHER MEETING AND GO THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL TO GET THE NEXT PHASE.
I'LL JUST PULL IT BACK TO SAY THIS, THAT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR EDDIE IS GOOD.
AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT PHASE IS AND WHAT MATERIAL IT APPLIES TO OR NOT BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TOWARDS SOMETHING BROADER THAT WOULD IMPACT ANY POTENTIAL PHASE.
AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT'S WHAT CHANGING THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT USE GROUP IS AS ALL OF THOSE PHASES FALL UNDER IT.
AS LONG AS WE AMEND IT APPROPRIATELY SURE.
WILL IMPACT CHANGE TO PHASE ONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? I KNOW THIS WAS VERY FREEFORM, EVEN MORE FREEFORM THAN I ANTICIPATED IT BEING
I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA BE ON THE BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, UM, WORKING GROUP.
OBVIOUSLY I ACTUALLY FOUND THIS USEFUL.
SO WHEN SARAH AND DIANE AND I RETREAT AND, AND TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS WAS ACTUALLY VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
AND HOPEFULLY ON YOUR END, WHICH YOU RECEIVED BACK FROM US IN, IN FUTURE MEETINGS, UH, WILL BE A LITTLE LESS.
UM, ANY PARTING SHOTS ON, UH, OUR DISCUSSION HERE, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON IN THE AGENDA.
AND OUR NEAR NEARLY LAST, UH, BULLET POINT HERE IS I, THERE ARE NONE FOR THAT REASON.
I WILL THEN CALL FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
THERE IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN BY EDDIE.
AND GARY, WELL IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY, UH, IS SECONDING, BUT GARY DID, UH, AS WELL.
ANY OPPOSED? IT IS 1140 AND WE GOT IT JUST UNDER AN HOUR AND A HALF IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OUR, OUR DELAY.
THANK YOU FOR AN EXTENDED UH, UH, MEETING.
AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
DIANE, THANKS FOR JOINING US VIRTUALLY.
EVERYBODY, PLEASE BE SAFE AND WARM THIS WEEKEND.