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ALL RIGHT, IT IS ONE OH NINE AND WE WILL CALL THE MEETING OF THE AD
[Ad Hoc Committee on General Investigating and Ethics on February 13, 2026.]
HOC COMMITTEE FOR GENERAL INVESTIGATING AND ETHICS TO ORDER.UM, JUST TO START, I'LL SAY THAT THIS COMMITTEE, SINCE THIS IS JUST THE SECOND TIME WE'VE WORKED IN THIS NEW TERM, OR MET IN THIS NEW TERM, THAT WE'RE TASKED WITH WORKING WITH THE CITY'S OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL CITY, AUDITOR, CITY ATTORNEY, ON BUILDING THE PUBLIC TRUST BY ENSURING THAT FRAUD, WASTE, AND ABUSE ARE DISCOVERED, DEALT WITH, AND HOPEFULLY BLUNTED BY THE SPOTLIGHT THAT IS BEING FOCUSED ON ANY SUCH ACTIVITY.
UM, WE DO HAVE MINUTES FROM OUR NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION SECOND.
ALRIGHT, WE WILL GO TO ITEM A AND THIS IS THE MANAGEMENT ADVISORY PROCESS UPDATE.
AND IF YOU'LL RECALL AT OUR LAST MEETING IN NOVEMBER, IT WAS NOTED THAT MANAGEMENT ADVISORIES HAD BEEN ISSUED.
BUT GIVEN HOW THE NEW OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL IS REALLY IN A PROCESS OF BEING SET UP, THERE WASN'T A PROCESS FOR FOLLOW-UP RECOMMENDATIONS AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND SO, UH, THE INTERIM INSPECTOR GENERAL WAS ASKED TO COME BACK TO US WITH A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHAT THAT PROCESS COULD BE.
AND JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, THIS IS NOT A COUNCIL VOTING ITEM, BUT IF WE AGREE WITH HIS RECOMMENDATION, IT WOULD MOVE TO BECOMING AN ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE, WHICH IS OVERSEEN BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
SO WE HAVE BARON ELIASON, INTERIM INSPECTOR GENERAL, READY TO WALK US THROUGH THAT RECOMMENDATION ON MANAGEMENT ADVISORY FOLLOW UP.
GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, DEPUTY MAYOR, PRO TEM.
I'M PULLING UP MY, UH, PRESENTATION.
IT IS UP THERE, BUT JUST FOR NOTICE, UH, A FEW THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE DECK, UH, AND I DIDN'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY CONFUSION BETWEEN MY PRESENTATION, SO I'M GONNA PULL MINE UP IF THAT IS OKAY.
WILL YOU PULL YOUR MIC JUST A LITTLE CLOSER? SO, AS YOU KNOW, I'M THE INTERIM INSPECTOR.
IS THAT BETTER? I'M THE INTERIM INSPECTOR GENERAL HERE.
AND THIS PRESENTATION IS, UH, EXACTLY AS DESCRIBED.
IT'S ABOUT A PROCESS WE'RE CALLING MANAGEMENT ADVISORIES.
JUST AS A REMINDER OF, OF WHAT WE DO IN THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL.
WE DEFEND THE CITY AGAINST UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR, AND WE DO THAT THROUGH INVESTIGATIONS AND PROMOTING ETHICS THROUGH TRAINING.
OUR JURISDICTION FOR INVESTIGATIONS IS FRAUD, WASTE, ABUSE, AND ETHICS VIOLATIONS.
AND THESE MANAGEMENT ADVISORIES REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF ABUSE AND WASTE, UH, MOSTLY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT, UH, MUCH OF A PROCESS IN THE CODE OF ETHICS TO DO THAT.
SO, LEMME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS TO ADVANCE AND WE'LL GO THROUGH THE DECK.
UM, THERE'S THE PURPOSE, A CLEAR AND FAMILIAR PROCESS, UH, FOR THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL TO DELIVER MANAGEMENT READY FINDINGS.
AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE SAME WAY THAT, UH, AUDIT DOES, UH, FOR MANAGEMENT TO ACCEPT OR NOT, AND TO COME UP WITH A PLAN IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH IT.
AND WE'RE CALLING THOSE ADVISORIES.
AND THEN, UH, CORRECTIVE ACTION FOLLOW UP, JUST LIKE AUDIT DOES, UH, WOULD COME AFTER THAT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE GOALS, UH, FAMILIAR PROCESS, TRANSPARENT FOLLOW UP.
UH, HERE'S ONE OF THE CHANGES, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES OF DEPARTMENTS.
MY, MY INITIAL INTENT WAS TO CODIFY THOSE IN 12 A BUT AFTER, UH, SOME DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IT, IT'S REALLY BETTER.
AND I'M HAPPY TO, TO SAY MORE IF YOU'D LIKE, UH, TO PUT THIS IN SOME OTHER FORM, AN INTERNAL AGREEMENT, AN ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE, AS OPPOSED TO STICKING IT IN IN 12 A.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED.
AND THEN FINALLY, A, A QUESTION THAT HAS COME UP A LOT IS JUST, UH, AVOIDING OVERLAP WITH AUDIT.
UH, AND SO THE PROCESS IS DESIGNED TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS.
UH, IT REALLY SUMS UP EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS IS THE OIG RECEIVES A COMPLAINT, AND IN THE MIDST OF THAT COMPLAINT, WE MAY IDENTIFY AN ISSUE OF WASTE OR ABUSE, OR THAT MAY BE THE SUBJECT OF THE COMPLAINT.
UH, WE DOCUMENT WHAT WE FOUND, AND THEN JUST LIKE AUDIT DOES, WE GIVE MANAGEMENT A CHANCE TO CLARIFY, ASK QUESTIONS.
THEN WE SEND THEM A DRAFT FOR THEM TO RESPOND TO.
WE COMBINE THEIR RESPONSE AND OUR MANAGEMENT ADVISORY, AND THEN WE COLLABORATE WITH THE CITY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE
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FOR FOLLOW UP.AND THEN WE REPORT ON HOW THE FOLLOW UP WENT IN TWO WAYS, UM, BOTH PUBLICLY.
ONE IS ONCE A YEAR WE'LL REPORT ON ALL OF THE MANAGEMENT ADVISORIES AND WHERE THEY STAND IN TERMS OF RESPONSE.
AND THEN ALSO A YEAR IN EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL ADVISORY, AFTER A YEAR SINCE IT'S BEEN RECEIVED, WE'LL DO A REPORT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE STATE OF THE CASE? AFTER A YEAR, WE'LL GET THAT PUBLISHED, UH, DEPARTMENT FOLLOW UP.
AGAIN, THAT WILL HAPPEN A LOT THROUGH, UH, CITY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, BUT WE MAY, IF IT'S A HIGH RISK, IF USING THE SAME STRATA THAT AUDIT USES, WE MAY PULL AUDIT IN TO HELP WITH FOLLOW UP, UM, COUNCIL VISIBILITY.
YOU'LL GET A COPY OF ALL THESE ADVISORIES, UH, WHEN THEY ARE RELEASED.
AND I'VE DESCRIBED A LITTLE BIT, THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH, UH, CLARITY AND AND AUDIT.
AND I THINK THE BEST WAY TO UNDERSTAND THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EMERGENCY ROOM AND YOUR GENERAL PRACTITIONER.
WHAT THE OIG DOES IS MORE LIKE AN EMERGENCY ROOM.
WE'RE WE'RE JUST DRIVING DOWN OUR LIFE HERE AND WE BUMP INTO SOMETHING AND WE FIND AN ACCIDENT AND WE NEED TO STOP THE PROBLEM.
RIGHT? THEN IT MAY INVOLVE A SINGLE DEPARTMENT, IT MAY INVOLVE ALL DEPARTMENTS.
IT, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WE BUMP INTO.
BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL IT ROLLS AROUND ON THE, THE AUDIT MERRY-GO-ROUND.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE AUDIT FOR THIS DEPARTMENT IS NEXT YEAR, BUT WE WANT TO DEAL WITH IT RIGHT AWAY.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE WOULD COME IN.
WE WOULD WORK AND COLLABORATE WITH AUDIT TO DECONFLICT IF THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
BUT THAT, THAT IS THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T CROSS OVER AND DUPLICATE WORK.
UM, THE TIMELINE, UH, AGAIN, SINCE WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM WHERE I THOUGHT IT WAS HEADED, WHICH WAS ADDING A FEW, UH, DEPARTMENTAL OBLIGATIONS TO 12 A.
THERE IS NO TIMELINE FOR COUNCIL ACTION, BUT WE'RE JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THIS IS HAPPENING AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UH, TWO OF THOSE THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR DECK HAVE GONE AWAY.
UH, RIGHT NOW IT'S, UH, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER TO PUT TOGETHER THE PLAN OF HOW WE WANT TO DO THIS AND, AND, UH, HOW WE'RE GONNA COMMUNICATE OBLIGATIONS ON DEPARTMENTS FOR THESE REPORTS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S IT FOR THIS BRIEFING.
UM, CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING BACK TO US.
WITH THAT, I WILL START TO MY LEFT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
ENA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GIMME A SECOND.
UM, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, UH, CHAIR, UH, STEWART.
UM, SO THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PROCESS.
IT SEEMS LIKE YOU FOUND THE RIGHT FIT FOR IT IN TERMS OF HOW, WHERE IT NEEDS TO LIVE AND EXIST IN THE STRUCTURE OF THE CITY.
UM, BUT I'M ALWAYS TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR SOMETHING.
DO YOU HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A MANAGEMENT ADVISORY? UM, EVEN IF IT, IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE, IT DOESN'T NEED TO HAVE HAPPENED, BUT JUST AN EXAMPLE OF, OF SOMETHING WE MIGHT BUMP UP AGAINST.
I DO, AND, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, ONE WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IS, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE, THEY WEREN'T CALLED MANAGEMENT ADVISORIES, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN RELEASED AND THEY JUST FLOATED AROUND 'CAUSE THERE WAS NO PROCESS.
UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ONE MIGHT BE, LET'S SAY WE COME ACROSS A DEPARTMENT AND SOMETHING HAPPENED IN YEARS PAST, UH, IN A TIMEFRAME.
UH, AND I'M, I'M TRYING TO NOT TALK ABOUT IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENS IN A TIMEFRAME AND YOU REALIZE BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED, THERE IS A GAP IN WHAT WOULD BE A RATIONAL AND, AND APPROPRIATE CITY RESPONSE TO LOOK OUT AFTER BILLING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEY DON'T KNOW, THEY DON'T REALIZE WE JUST BUMPED INTO IT.
SO WE WOULD SAY, HERE'S OUR FINDING.
THERE'S A GAP AND IT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED BECAUSE THE CITY IS, IS LOSING MONEY.
NOBODY'S DONE ANYTHING WRONG, OR THEY'RE NOT CULPABLE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE PERFECT, BUT THEY MISS THAT GAP.
AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF OF THING THAT THESE WILL BE ADDRESSING.
THERE IS A SECOND ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR TOMO REASONS WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS MAYBE IN A DIFFERENT MEETING.
UH, BUT, BUT JUST TO SAY THE NEXT STEP FOR OUR OFFICE IS WE'RE WORKING ON A PROCESS FOR THOSE EMERGENCIES.
LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO AN INVESTIGATION AND, YOU KNOW, UH, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NEXT.
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MEMBER, BLAIR, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT AT THIS POINT.UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO HAS OKAY, NO QUESTIONS.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING MIRRORS THE CITY AUDITOR'S PROCESS, BUT IT WILL BE MANAGED BY THE CITY CONTROLLER.
IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN YOU SAY OR CONDUCTED BY, WHEN YOU SAY MANAGED, WHAT I, WHAT I HEAR IS WHO'S GONNA MAKE SURE THERE'S FOLLOW UP AND IF, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN? THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT.
NOW, THERE UNDER YOUR PURVIEW IN A WAY, RIGHT? WE ARE DIRECTING IT AND IN ORDER, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SET UP FOR FOLLOW UP LIKE CONTROLLERS AND, AND AUDIT IS, IT'S A GOOD HANDOFF.
SO, AND IT ALSO INVOLVES THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
AND THAT WAY, UH, WHEN COUNCIL ASKED, AS THEY DID WITH THOSE OTHER THREE REPORTS THAT WERE RELEASED, WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE? THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THERE'S BEEN FOLLOW UP AND, UH, IT'S GONNA COME TO COUNCIL, IT'S GONNA BE PUBLIC.
SO IT, THAT PROVIDES, I THINK, THE APPROPRIATE PRESSURE TO RESPOND.
AND I, I SAID UNDER YOUR PURVIEW, BUT THAT PERSON DOESN'T ACTUALLY WORK FOR YOU.
SO YOU ALL HAVE WORKED OUT, AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS, UM, THE, UH, DIRECTIVE, THE MANAGEMENT DIRECTIVE MM-HMM
AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. IRELAND AND, AND THIS WAS THE DIRECTION THAT THAT WAS TAKING.
SO IF THEY WORK ON THIS, AND ALSO WITH MR. SWAN IN TERMS OF WHEN SOMETHING GOES HIGH RISK, THEY'RE WILLING TO PULL IT INTO THEIR SYSTEM AND TRACK IT.
AND SOMETIMES THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE.
SO GLAD TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THREE OUTSTANDING REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THE PROCESS FOR THE FOLLOW UP AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND THEN THE CHECKPOINT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEXT YEAR.
AND SO THE NEXT STEP, IF WE ARE IN AGREEMENT, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE WE ARE, IS THAT, UM, YOU WILL GET THIS DRAFTED AND I'M EAGER TO SEE THIS HAPPEN SO THAT THESE THREE, UH, DOCUMENTS CAN START, CAN AUTOMATICALLY GO INTO THAT PROCESS MM-HMM
FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE MILESTONES, WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHO'S MANAGING THAT, WHAT'S THE FOLLOW UP GOING TO BE? AND WHEN CAN COUNCIL EXPECT TO SEE THAT COME BACK TO US SO THAT WE KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS BEING DONE THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND, AND I ANTICIPATE SOME MORE TO FOLLOW, UH, ONCE WE HAVE THIS PROCESS SET.
WE'RE, I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME OTHERS THAT WOULD BE COMING.
SO WHAT TIMING ARE YOU RECOMMENDING ON THIS? UM, ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE? I, I LIKE TO MOVE QUICKLY.
I, I PROBABLY HAVE MORE MARGIN THAN, UH, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT I NEED TO WORK WITH.
AND IT'S JUST SUBJECT TO THAT, UH, THE, YOU HAVE A COPY OF A DRAFT PROCEDURE THAT IS READY TO GO.
UM, I DON'T ANTICIPATE, I'D BE SURPRISED IF THERE WAS MUCH TO DO.
I THINK IT'S READY TO GO, BUT, UM, THAT'S FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, WHO MY PARTNERS ARE GONNA BE IN THE CITY, THEY GET TO DECIDE THAT.
SO I'M HOPING, UH, BY MARCH OR APRIL, LET'S GO FOR MARCH.
I'M ALSO, YEAH, I'M GOING FOR MARCH.
I'M ALSO LEARNING THE PACE OF THINGS AND, YOU KNOW, NOT TO MAKE, WELL, I WOULD SAY GIVEN THE NATURE OF THIS, YEAH, UH, WE NEED TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF, UH, EVERYONE NEEDS TO PAY ATTENTION TO THIS.
WHEN YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION, I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH AND VETTED THIS.
YOU'VE DONE SOME HOMEWORK AND ASKED THOSE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE TIMING ON IT.
AND SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A BIG SURPRISE.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO HAVE THOSE SITTING ANY LONGER WITHOUT HAVING THE FOLLOW UP STEPS.
UM, IT ALSO SENDS A MESSAGE, UM, THAT THERE IS A PROCESS FOR FOLLOW UP.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ONLY ENGAGE IN ETHICAL BEHAVIOR.
WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ITEM A AND NOW WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM OH, IF, IF ANYONE ELSE DOESN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE MOVE FORWARD ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE AROUND THAT ORDER, THAT PROCESS AND THAT ORDER.
ITEM B IS AMENDMENT TO CODE CHAPTER 12 A ON PERSONS DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
AND THIS WILL BE A COUNCIL VOTING ITEM.
AND I THINK YOU FRAME IT UP NICELY.
SO DIRECTOR, UM, OR INSPECTOR GENERAL ELIASON, WHY DON'T YOU GO ON AND JUST TAKE US THROUGH, UH, THAT.
SO, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION LOOKED AT FOR, JUST FOR BIG, BIG PICTURE CONTEXT, UH, BACK IN MAY.
AND THEY MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S FAIR TO ASK WHY ARE WE JUST NOW SEEING THIS RECOMMENDATION? SO I WANTED TO START THERE.
UH, THE, THE REASON IS SIMPLY THAT IT JUST, IT GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE CHANGES GOING ON IN THE IG AND YOU KNOW, THE STORY AND THEN IT HIT, UH, THE TIME WHEN THIS COMMITTEE GOT SHUT DOWN AND THEN REOPENED.
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AS WE COULD GET IT BACK.UH, BUT IN TERMS OF THE DECK, WE CAN MOVE AHEAD.
YOU SEE THAT SLIDE THERE? SO HERE'S THE PURPOSE, UM, TO ESTABLISH A CONSISTENT ETHICAL BASELINE, UH, FOR PERSONS DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY TO BE TIED TO THE CODE OF ETHICS.
UH, THE WAY THAT WORKS IN THE CODE OF ETHICS IS WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THAT.
WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER EMPLOYEES, JURISDICTION OVER CITY OFFICIALS, PERSONS DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY AND LOBBYISTS.
THE PROBLEM IS THE WAY THE CODE WAS, WAS BEFORE.
UH, WHEN YOU HAVE A PROVISION, IT GETS VERY SPECIFIC.
AND WE WILL NAME THIS PROVISION IS ABOUT EMPLOYEES.
THIS PROVISION IS ABOUT, UH, CITY OFFICIALS AND SO, OR LOBBYISTS.
AND SO THE, THE PEOPLE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY GET LEFT OUT.
UH, I'M SURE SOMEONE WILL ASK, HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS MORNING.
I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE, THERE ARE TWO CASES THAT WE HAD EACH ONE AND, UH, SIX FIGURE ISSUES THAT WE DID NOT PURSUE BECAUSE OF THIS REASON.
AND THAT WAS JUST OFF THE TOP OF OUR HEADS THIS MORNING.
UH, SO THIS WILL HAVE REAL WORLD EFFECT ON OUR WORK.
I'M SURE THERE, THERE ARE OTHERS, BUT THAT'S JUST A, AN ANECDOTE 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT QUESTION WILL BE COMING.
THE GOAL IS TO EXTEND THE KEY ETHICS EXPECTATIONS TO THOSE PEOPLE.
UH, HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE OF IT.
UH, DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY BECOMES A CLEARLY DEFINED CATEGORY IN THE CODE.
IF YOU'RE GONNA DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, IT'S EASY TO FIND OUT.
AND I THINK OUR OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WILL SPIN UP SOME TRAINING THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME ALONG WHEN SOMEONE GETS A CONTRACT FROM THE CITY, SOMETHING TO ALERT THEM TO THIS TO BE FAIR.
BUT SO THEY HAVE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS AND, UH, TO SUPPORT THE INTEGRITY IN THE CONTRACTING AND, UM, RELATED INVESTIGATIONS INTO THINGS OTHER THAN CONTRACTING THAT INVOLVE PERSONS DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
WE'VE GOT A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT HAS COME YOUR WAY AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
AND WHAT IT, WHAT IT DOES IS IT AMENDS SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN THE CODE.
AND I'VE GOT A A LIST HERE TO GO THROUGH THEM.
I JUST WILL ASK IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO HIGHLIGHT THAT OR IF, UH, YOU'VE READ IT AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, I'M HAPPY TO DO EITHER ONE.
WHY DON'T WE LET, UM, OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THAT IF THEY WANT.
UH, BUT THE, THE BOTTOM LINE OF IT IS IT IS ADDING PER, UH, UH, THE DEFINITION OF SUBCONTRACTOR TO THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE CONSIDERED DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
AND THEN IT IS ADDING PERSONS DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY TO SEVERAL PROVISIONS IN THE CODE SO THAT WE KNOW THAT THE ETHICAL CODE ATTACHES TO THEIR BEHAVIOR IN THOSE AREAS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A WAY TO SUM UP WHAT IS GOING ON THERE.
HERE'S A, A HIGH VIEW, THE DEFINITION OF DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY IS EXPANDED.
UH, THAT SUBCONTRACTOR PIECE IS IMPORTANT.
UH, CIVILITY AND CONDUCT, THEY'RE ADDED INTO THAT SO THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT OKAY FOR PEOPLE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY TO, TO TREAT CITY EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT CIVILITY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UH, THERE, THERE ARE ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS THAT WILL APPLY AND THE CONSEQUENCES FOR, UH, A PERSON DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY NOT BEING ETHICAL IN THE WAY THEY, THEY, UH, INTERACT WITH THE CITY OR FOLLOW THROUGH ON THEIR CONTRACTS, UH, THAT THERE WAS A GAP IN THE CODE THAT IS CLEARED UP THE GAP, WHAT HAD TO DO WITH DEBARMENT.
UM, SOMETIMES IN ONE PLACE IT SAID, UH, A CONTRACTOR COULD BE DE DEBARRED FROM DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY FOR TWO YEARS.
AND THE OTHER PLACE IT SAID THAT WOULD BE UP TO COUNCIL AND THIS AMENDMENT WOULD MAKE IT UP TO COUNCIL TO CLEAR UP THAT DIFFERENCE.
WE'RE HOPING TO GET THIS BRIEFED AND BEFORE COUNCIL, UH, IN MARCH.
AND THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO SET THIS EAC RECOMMENDED AMENDMENT FOR THAT BRIEFING IN CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF THIS DECK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I WILL START TO MY RIGHT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, JUST TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, EXCUSE ME, YOU'RE GOING TO TIGHTEN UP THE CODE SO THAT IT'S CONSISTENT IN BOTH PLACES.
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UM, TWO YEARS, ANOTHER PLACE IS UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHANGE IT, SO IT'S UP TO CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE, TO MAKE THE DECISION HOW LONG IT IS A COMPANY CAN DO BUSINESS WITH US IF WE FIND THAT THEY HAVE, UM, OPERATED IN A WAY THAT'S NOT EFFICIENT FOR THE CITY.SO HOW DID YOU, HOW DID YOU COME TO THOSE TO THAT? AND OPPOSED TO SAYING IT'S TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, OR FOUR YEARS, YOU CAN NO LONGER DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THE ANSWER.
THE THE FIRST PART IS UNDER THE CODE.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS IS ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION WOULD SUBSTANTIATE AN ALLEGATION AND, BUT THEY, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT WHAT THE SANCTION IS GOING TO BE UNDER THE CODE.
THAT'S GONNA BE CITY COUNCIL'S RESPONSIBILITY.
UH, A TWO YEAR DEBAR DEBARMENT COULD HAVE A PRETTY BIG EFFECT ON A BUSINESS IF THE CITY OF DALLAS IS THEIR PRIMARY CUSTOMER.
AND IF YOU ARE LOCKED INTO THAT TWO YEARS AND THE VIOLATION WAS RELATIVELY MINOR, UH, BUT YOU STILL THINK DE DEPARTMENT'S IMPORTANT, YOU COULD CHOOSE TO DO IT FOR A LESSER AMOUNT OF TIME OR A GREATER AMOUNT OF TIME IF, UH, THE ISSUE WITH THE COMPANY WAS PARTICULARLY BAD.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE FIND OUT THAT THERE'S A COMPANY IN ANOTHER CITY THAT IS DONE SOME REALLY BAD THINGS AND THEN WE FIND OUT AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE, UH, IS HAPPENING IN DALLAS AND WE START PUTTING TWO AND TWO TOGETHER AND WOW, WE DON'T WANNA DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AT ALL.
I'D LIKE FOR THE COUNCIL IS MY MY VIEW TO HAVE MORE DISCRETION, UH, FOR BOTH OF THOSE SCENARIOS.
I APPRECIATE THEIR, YOUR STATEMENT, BUT, UM, LET ME PUT ANOTHER SLANT ON THAT.
IF WE FIND THAT A COMPANY HAS ACTED INSUFFICIENTLY SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND NOW THEY'RE AT THE CITY AND THEY'RE, UM, DEFICIENCY ELSEWHERE WAS EXTREMELY EGREGIOUS, WOULD IT NOT BE BETTER TO SAY YOU HAVE A TIME LIMIT AND THE CITY COUNCIL CAN, CAN EXTEND THAT TIME LIMIT MORE OPPOSED TO SAYING YOU HAVE NO TIME LIMIT AND IT'S UP TO CITY COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, WE CHANGE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE REAL SOON AND WE ARE GONNA LOSE PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING, BUT IF WE SET A STANDARD THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ABILITY TO EXTEND IT, I SEE THAT TO BE FAR MORE APPROPRIATE THAN SAY, AH, IT'S UP TO THE, THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THE DECISION.
SO IF WE'RE SAYING THAT THE STANDARD TODAY IS TWO YEARS, THEN IT'S TWO YEARS, AND IF IT THE BEHAVIOR IS EGREGIOUS ENOUGH, THEN IT COULD BE EXTENDED.
SO CAN WE LOOK AT THAT AS SAYING IT'S A MINIMUM A YEAR OR WITH, WITH THE CITY, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND IT LONGER THAN THAT? SO I, I THINK THAT IS AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION, BUT THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT.
BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT WHEN IT, WHEN IT'S, UH, COMES BEFORE COUNSEL IS TO RAISE THAT POINT AND MAKE AN AMENDMENT.
BUT, BUT THIS HAS ALREADY COME BEFORE EAC AND BEEN RECOMMENDED.
I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO CHANGE IT.
SO THIS WILL BE COMING TO COUNSEL, CORRECT? THAT'S THE INTENT.
ALRIGHT, CHAIR STEWART, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, UH, CHAIR
SO I KNOW USUALLY LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF CONTRACTORS TRY TO MEET WITH COUNCIL, WE, YOU KNOW, SEND IT TO PROCUREMENT TO EVEN ASK IF WE'RE ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM IS, UM, SUB IS SOME CONTRACTORS ALSO LISTED ON THE CURRENT PAPERWORK THAT THEY HAVE? OR HOW WOULD OR DOES THAT NEED TO BE ADDED, UM, SO THAT WE, YOU KNOW, KNOW AS WELL CAN, UH, I I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE HELP, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, SO WHENEVER SOMEBODY'S DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A PROCUREMENT PROCESS, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T MEET WITH THEM.
ONCE PAPERWORK HAS BEEN FILED.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ADDING IN SUBCONTRACTORS AS WELL WITH THIS.
I'M NOT, YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT, BUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE
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THAT WE KNOW WHO, WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE? THAT'S A, A GOOD QUESTION AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE, UH,UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK ON.
THE, THE, WHAT I ENVISION HAPPENING IS YOU'RE MAIN, YOU'RE MAINLY DEALING WITH A CONTRACTOR THAT'S BIDDING WITH THE CITY.
AND WHAT HAPPENS, THE TARGET OF THIS IS THAT, UH, LET'S SAY I AM DOING THIS AND I GET A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY AND THERE'S SOME PROVISION THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY WANNA LIVE WITH.
I THINK THE, THE RISK RIGHT NOW IS THAT I'LL GO HIRE A SUBCONTRACTOR TO DO THAT, AND I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE.
SO THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COVER.
AND, AND FRANKLY, YOU'VE UNCOVERED A PROBLEM WITH THE WORKING OUT OF THAT.
AND I THINK WHAT WE COULD DO IF THIS PASSES IS TO, AND I I MAY HE MAY HAVE A, AN IDEA OF HOW THIS WOULD WORK.
NO, WELL, THEY MENTIONED SUBCONTRACTORS, BUT IF THIS PASSES, THERE'LL BE SOME WORKING OUT TO DO, UH, OF HOW, HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT THE TARGET WAS THAT OTHER SITUATION WHERE YOU HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO THE DIRTY WORK AND THE CITY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
NO, THAT, THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
UM, I THINK WE LOST, UH, CHAIR MORENO, ANY QUESTIONS? SO I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
SO I, I REALLY LIKE THE SUGGESTION FROM, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR ABOUT AT LEAST HAVING A FLOOR.
I MEAN, IF THERE HAS BEEN SOMETHING FOUND, I THINK A YEAR IS FAIR AND I REALIZE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A DISCUSSION POINT AT COUNCIL, WHICH I'M SURE, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR WOULD BE HAPPY TO INTRODUCE THAT THOUGHT.
UH, WHEN WE, WE GET TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, OUR, OUR WITH OUR COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, UM, AND AN EXCELLENT POINT MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER KAENA ON THE SUBCONTRACTOR, SUBCONTRACTOR IDENTIFICATION, HOW DO WE FIND OUT WHO THEY'RE, WELL, I THINK THROUGH THE COURSE OF THIS, IT WOULD JUST BE A REQUIREMENT WITH THE CONTRACTOR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO AT SOME POINT IDENTIFY WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE.
UM, HOWEVER, I THINK BEFORE THIS COMES BACK TO COUNCIL, THESE ARE SOME EXCELLENT POINTS RAISED THAT I THINK SHOULD BE IRONED OUT A LITTLE FURTHER.
UM, SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE BRIEFING THAT THAT CAN BE ANSWERED.
UM, HOW WOULD WE KNOW WHO THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS ARE? UM, AND IS THERE JUST STANDARD REPORTING THAT THE CITY WOULD GET FROM ANY CONTRACTOR WHEN YOU'RE CHECKING MILESTONES, ET CETERA, THAT THEY WOULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, LUMPED UNDER? YEAH, BUT WE WOULD KNOW, UH, WHETHER THESE WERE MET.
UM, NOT JUST LIVING UNDER THE CONTRACTOR SAYS IT'S OKAY, BUT WE WOULD KNOW THAT THIS PERSON PERFORMED IT AND, UM, THAT IT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WAS, IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY AND CORRECTLY MM-HMM
UM, SO IT'S JUST ADDING A LITTLE DEPTH IT SOUNDS LIKE, TO OUR REPORTING.
UM, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS HAVING THIS CODE TO LIVE UNDER ETHICALLY.
I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN, BUT SO FREQUENTLY, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S OUT DOING WORK AND YOU GET A COMPLAINT FROM RESIDENTS AND IT TURNS OUT WELL, IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT UTILITY OR WHATEVER IT WAS A SUBCONTRACTOR,
UM, AND MAYBE THEY'RE UPSET ABOUT THE WORK OR THE QUALITY OF THE WORK, AND SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A WAY TO GO BACK AND, UM, FOLLOW UP AS TIGHTLY.
AND SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT THOSE TWO THINGS, UM, BE THOUGHT ABOUT IF THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM POTENTIALLY, AND THAT YOU KICK THOSE TIRES BEFORE WE SCHEDULE THIS FOR THE COUNCIL BRIEFING.
HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION AND THEY DO THEIR HOMEWORK ON IT, AND THAT THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BACK IN MAY OF 2025, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS, UH, COME UP POSSIBLY ON THE NEXT BRIEFING.
UM, IT'S GONNA BE A BIG DAY MARCH 4TH, SO, UM, WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT, BUT I JUST, I, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE I DON'T WANT IT TO LANGUISH.
I MEAN, THAT'S TODAY WE'RE KIND OF, WE'RE STILL, UM, CLEANING HOUSE ON, ON SOME ITEMS MM-HMM
SO FIND OUT ABOUT THESE ISSUES AND THEN WE WILL WORK WITH STAFF ON WHEN THIS CAN COME BACK TO US.
BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN IN EARLY APRIL AT THE LATEST.
UH, THIS IS, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME GUESTS FROM DART HERE TODAY.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE A MEMO SENT TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 14TH, 2025, SIGNED BY ALL DALLAS DART BOARD REPRESENTATIVES.
AND IT'S SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT CALLS OUT ABOUT $31 MILLION WITHHELD DUE TO DELAYS ON THE SILVER LINE, AND
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THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER.SO, UH, HERE TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE MEMO AND THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE TO THE DART BOARD THAT LED TO THIS MEMO ARE RANDALL BRYANT, WHO IS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT, AND TREY WALKER, WHO IS THE INTERIM CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR DART.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
UH, CHAIR WILLIS AND TO THE COMMITTEE.
UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS RANDALL BRYANT, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR DART.
AND, UM, THANK YOU ALL FIRST FOR, UM, APPOINTED ME TO THE BOARD.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN SO MUCH ACCOMPLISHED IN, UH, QUITE SOME SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WHEN I FIRST SAT HERE AND ASKED FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY IN OCTOBER, I BECAME THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD, UM, AMONG THE MOST RECENT, UM, EVENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN FACED WITH TO SAVE THE AGENCY AND MAINTAIN ALL OF OUR CITIES.
UM, PART OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE DOING WITHIN, UM, OUR OPERATIONS WAS ENSURING THAT THE THINGS THAT WERE NEEDED FOR YOU AS SERVICES, BUT ALSO OUR WORKING RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN ALL OF OUR CITIES, UM, BEYOND JUST TRANSPORTATION EFFORTS, UM, WERE IN HIGH REGARDS.
AND SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, AT THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON THE FIFTH OF THIS MONTH, UM, OUR, UH, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, PATRICK KENNEDY, AS WELL AS, UH, ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, KAITLYN HOLLAND, ALSO PRESENTED TO THEM ON, HEY, THESE ARE ALL OUR TOD PROJECTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO SURROUND OUR STATIONS WITH.
AND WE WANT TO ENSURE, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THAT WAY WHATEVER BUREAUCRACY OR OR RED TAPE IS IN THE WAY OF THEM, THAT WE CAN EXPEDITE THAT.
SO, UM, BEYOND JUST IN, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING RELIABLE, SAFE, CLEAN SERVICE, UH, TO OUR RIDERS, UM, PART OF MY TASK IS ALSO TO ENSURE, UM, THAT WE MAINTAIN A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR CITIES.
UM, AND, AND THIS WHAT WE'LL GO THROUGH TODAY, UM, GOING BACK TO, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR THAT WE OPENED, UM, A NEAR $2 BILLION, UH, PROJECT IN THE NORTHERN BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY, THE SILVER LINE.
UM, AND THERE WERE MANY CHALLENGES THAT WE FACED, UM, AS DART THE AGENCY AS WELL AS THE CITY.
UM, AND AS WE WILL GO THROUGH, UM, I, I DO BELIEVE WE ESTIMATED ABOUT 746 DAYS WORTH OF DELAYS IN TOTAL, UM, UH, FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BUT SPECIFICALLY WE ESTIMATED THAT, UM, ABOUT 500 OR SO OF THOSE DAYS CAME FROM DIRECT, UM, RELATIONS WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND SO IN, IN THE WORLD WHERE WE WANT TO DELIVER FAST AND CHEAP AND, UH, OR MOST LEAST EXPENSIVE, UM, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK TO THE CITY, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH NEW, UM, PROJECTS THAT WILL BENEFIT YOUR RIDERS AND, AND YOUR RESIDENTS, UM, THAT WE TAKE AWAY FROM, FROM, UM, FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE'LL SEE HERE TODAY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT BETTER IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO THAT'S THE PREMISE OF IT.
UM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TREY WALKER.
THIS IS THE, UH, FOR ALL INTENTS PURPOSES, THIS IS ALMOST THE EXACT SAME PRESENTATION THAT THE DART BOARD SAW BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND WAS THE GENESIS OF THAT LETTER.
UM, HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN OR TAKE QUESTIONS AS WE, AS WE WALK THROUGH.
I THINK IF YOU CAN DO A TOP LINE WALK THROUGH.
THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THIS.
WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE DETAIL, BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU ALL PULLED OUT OF IT SOMETHING THAT MADE YOU WANT TO WRITE A MEMO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO IF YOU WANNA JUST KIND OF APPROACH IT IN THAT.
SO THE PRESENTATION AT A HIGH LEVEL, UH, JUST COVERS SORT OF THE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS OF A CRITICAL INTERSECTION, UM, FOR THE SILVER LINE PROJECT AS THE RAILROAD CROSSED AT HILLCREST ROAD.
UM, SO WE'VE GOT SOME IMAGES HERE OF PREEXISTING CONDITIONS AND THEN CURRENT CONDITIONS AS WELL.
UH, SOME OF THE DOCUMENT REFERENCES, THIS WAS A, A LONG PROJECT.
CAN YOU BRING THE MIC CLOSER TO YOU? SPEAK UP AND SPEAK UP.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YOU HAVE A SOFT VOICE.
SO I CAN HEAR IT NOW? MM-HMM
SO TALK, WE'LL TALK THROUGH, UH, THE PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.
THE FINAL CONDITIONS OF THE ROADWAY IS THERE WAS A DRAMATIC CHANGE, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO, A LITTLE BIT OF THE DOCUMENT REFERENCES AND TIMELINE OF, OF THIS.
UM, THIS PROJECT AS A WHOLE, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM IDEA WAS ABOUT 15 YEARS TO ACTUAL BRING INTO FRUITION.
UM, AND IN EARNEST A LOT OF WORK HAPPENED ON THE PLANNING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OVER ABOUT A SEVEN OR EIGHT YEAR PERIOD, UH, CULMINATING IN REVENUE SERVICE IN OCTOBER OF 2025.
UH, AND THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE PUMP STATION, UH, FOR
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STORMWATER, UH, UH, DRAINAGE, UH, AT THE HILLCREST ROAD SITE.UM, AND THEN FINALLY, JUST A NOTE ON, UM, BACK TO KIND OF, UH, DOING BUSINESS, UM, SORT OF GETTING WELL AND KIND OF CURING SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE ISSUES ON THE PROJECT.
UM, WITH THE DELIVERY OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUNDS, WE TOOK A COUPLE EXTRA STEPS, UH, TO ENSURE SORT OF OUR, OUR THOROUGH DELIVERY OF THE SILVER LINE PROJECT.
THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE, UH, HILLCREST PUMP STATION.
UH, THE, THE SILVER LINE CORRIDOR EXPANDS ABOUT 27 MILES AND EXTENDS FROM DFW AIRPORT IN THE WEST TO, UH, HIL ROAD AND PLANO TO THE EAST.
UH, THE HILLCREST ROADS, UH, INTERSECTION HERE IS ABOUT A THIRD, UH, THIRD OF, OF THE INTER OF THE CORRIDOR IN FROM THE, FROM THE EAST SIDE.
AND, UM, WAS AN AT GRADE CROSSING ORIGINALLY, UH, KIND OF PREDATING THE, THE LEGACY, UH, COTTON BELT CORRIDOR, WHICH DART PURCHASED IN THE EARLY NINETIES.
THIS IS WHAT THE, UH, INTERSECTION LOOKED LIKE BACK IN 2018.
THIS IS JUST AN AT GRADE CROSSING OF HILLCREST ROAD AND, UH, THE RAILROAD, WHICH DART OWNED.
UM, AS WE KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS, UH, SOME OTHER PARCELS OF, OF NOTE ARE, UH, 17,404 HILLCREST, WHERE THE NOW PUMP STATION, UH, IS OPERATING AND CONSTRUCTED AS WELL AS THREE HOMES ON WESTAWAY COURT, UH, THAT SORT OF, UH, STAGGER THE THE RAILROAD.
AND THIS IS LARGELY THE BUILT CONDITION OF, UH, THE ROADWAY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE ROAD WAS DEPRESSED, UM, AND, UH, THE, THE TRACK WAS ADDED, UH, ADDED A SECOND TRACK, UH, FOR THE SILVER LINE CORRIDOR WITH A NEW BRIDGE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, A PUMP STATION WAS BUILT ON THAT NORTHEAST CORNER, UH, TO REMOVE STORM WATER THAT COULD POND UNDERNEATH THE DEPRESSED ROADWAY.
IN GENERAL, SOME DOCUMENTS THAT WERE, UH, DEVELOPED OVER TIME.
UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS PASSED A RESOLUTION IN 2018 STATING, UH, PREFERENCES FOR, UM, THE AT GRADE CROSSINGS, UH, AND GRADE SEPARATION REQUESTS AT HILLCREST ROAD AND COY ROAD.
UM, AND THEN DART KIND OF SIMULTANEOUSLY RELEASED A DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT, UH, WHICH MAINTAINED THE HILLCREST ROAD WOULD BE AT GRADE, UM, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE NO STORMWATER, UH, IMPACTS.
THESE, BOTH OF THESE, UH, UH, THE DOCUMENT, THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT EVOLVED INTO A FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT IN NOVEMBER OF 2018, UH, WHICH DID CALL OUT THAT GRADE SEPARATION OF HILLCREST ROAD.
UM, DID WALK THROUGH, UH, A LOT OF NOISE MITIGATIONS, UM, ALONG, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL STRETCH IN NORTH DALLAS AND OTHER PORTIONS OF THE CORRIDOR.
UM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY INCLUDED THE, UH, APPLICATION AND INSTALLATION OF QUIET ZONES, UM, WHICH THE NEAREST CROSSING HERE WOULD'VE BEEN AT MCCALLUM ROAD.
UM, WE ALSO, UH, COMMITTED TO CONDUCT A, A DETAILED DRAINAGE ANALYSIS AS DESIGNS ADVANCED FOR THE GRADE SEPARATION AT HILLCREST ROAD.
AND THEN TO CLOSE SORT OF THE FEDERAL, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT COMPONENTS OF THIS.
UH, WE DID SECURE AND, AND DRAFT A MEMO TO FILE, UM, AND FILED IT WITH THE FTA IN OCTOBER OF 2022, UH, CLOSING THAT HYDRAULIC ANALYSIS WITH, UH, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND INCLUDED THE INSTALLATION OF THE PUMP STATION.
NEXT SLIDE, UH, OTHER REFERENCE DOCUMENTS.
DART AND THE CITY OF DALLAS EXECUTED A SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT TO OUR MASTER INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
UM, AND IN THIS DOCUMENT, STIPULATED THAT DART WOULD DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT, UH, THE PUMP STATION THAT'S HERE.
UH, WE WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY ON TIMELY REVIEWS, UM, AND INSTALLATIONS OF THOSE, UH, OF THOSE IN, UH, NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AND ENSURE THAT WE ALLOW CITY TO ACCESS AND INGRESS, UH, THE EVENTUAL STATION.
UM, THE LOCATION OF THE PUMP STATION WOULD ULTIMATELY BE DETERMINED MUTUALLY BY THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DART STAFF.
AND AT HILLCREST, THE FINAL TOP OF RAIL ELEVATION WOULD NOT CHANGE.
SO AT, FOR AN AG GRADE CROSSING NOW, WE NOW HAVE TO KNOW THAT THE ROADWAY ELEVATION WILL BE COMPLETELY BELOW THE PREEXISTING RAIL ELEVATION, WHICH WAS ABOUT, UH, 2020 FEET APPROXIMATELY AT THIS LOCATION.
TIMELINE OF EVENTS, UH, AGAIN, MARCH, UH, AND APRIL WERE THOSE INITIAL DOCUMENTS THAT THAT WENT BETWEEN DART AND CITY OF DALLAS, UH, FINAL FEIS IN APRIL.
WE SECURED OUR CONTRACTOR, UH, AROUND THE END OF 2018 AND GAVE THEM NOTICE TO PROCEED IN 2019.
UM, THE, WITH CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS REGARDING, UH, THE DESIGN EVOLUTION OF HILLCREST ROAD, UM, WE NOTIFIED THE CITY OF DALLAS OF A PREFERRED, UH, PUMP LOCATION ON THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF, UH, THE INTERSECTION IN JULY OF 2020.
AND THEN IN AUGUST OF 2020, THERE WERE SUB SUBSEQUENT, UH, MEETINGS, UH, AND EMAILS AND SITE VISITS WITH CITY STAFF AND DART STAFF THAT CULMINATED IN, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR
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A, UM, THE PUMP STATION TO BE INSTALLED ON THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT.UH, SO WE, UH, DARTS RECOMMENDATION WAS SOUTHWEST.
UH, THE ULTIMATE DETERMINATION WAS ON THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT.
WE THEN, UM, WORKED WITH OUR CONTRACTOR TO, UH, UNDERSTAND THE ADDITIONAL COST IMPLICATIONS OF THAT LOCATION, UM, AND ULTIMATELY ADVANCED, UH, PROPERTY ACQUISITION AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AT THAT, UH, NORTHEAST QUADRANT LOCATION.
WE, UH, ACQUIRED THE THREE WESTAWAY HOUSES AS WELL AS THE, UH, 17 4 0 4 HILLCREST ROAD, UH, PROPERTY.
UH, AND I'LL SHOW THOSE ON A MAP, UH, AND A SUBSEQUENT SLIDE.
THE FOUR LOCATIONS THAT WERE, UH, ANALYZED FOR THE, UM, THE PUMP STATION LOCATION WERE BASICALLY EVERY CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF THE ROADWAY AND, AND THE, UH, AND THE RAILROAD.
UH, AGAIN, THE DART PREFERENCE WAS OPTION A IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT, UM, AND THE ULTIMATE LOCATION AND CITY PREFERENCE WAS OPTION D IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT.
UH, WE CONDUCTED A EVALUATION OF, UH, BENEFITS OF EACH SITE, UH, AND THOSE COST IMPLICATIONS THAT WE HAD OUR CONTRACTOR PRICE THROUGHOUT THIS, UH, OPTION A WOULD'VE ADDED ABOUT TWO TO $4 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL, UH, PROJECT COST.
OPTION D, WHICH WAS THE ULTIMATE SELECTED ONE, ADDED ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF TO 6 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL PROJECT COSTS.
THE DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DESIGN OF, UH, THE STORMWATER AT THIS LOCATION WENT, UH, AND REQUIRED AN EASEMENT, UH, THROUGH THE WESTER WAY COURT, UH, WHICH ULTIMATELY LED TO THE PURCHASE OF THOSE THREE HOUSES AND THE NECESSITY FOR PURCHASING THOSE THREE HOUSES, AS WELL AS THE ACQUISITION OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON THE, UH, NORTHEAST, UH, QUADRANT, UH, IN THE CORNER OF MCCALLUM AND HILLCREST.
NEXT SLIDE, UH, ATTACHED TO THE VALUES, UH, ON THIS SLIDE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE PURCHASED AROUND THIS, UH, THIS INTERSECTION, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT 17 4 0 4, UH, WAS PURCHASED FOR, UH, 3.35 MILLION, AND THE SUM OF THE THREE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, UH, ALSO EXCEEDED, UH, $3 MILLION.
SHIFTING GEARS ON, UM, KIND OF HOW WE WORKED OUT OF, UM, THROUGH DESIGN REVISIONS AND ULTIMATELY THROUGH DELIVERY OF THE SILVER LINE PROJECT, UH, DART AND THE CITY, AGAIN EXECUTED THEIR ILA BACK IN JULY OF 20, UH, UH, EXECUTED A, THE, THE, UM, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUND ILA IN JULY OF 2023.
UH, IN TOTAL THERE WERE $111 MILLION, UH, ATTRIBUTED, UH, TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, WAS A FORMULAIC, UH, PROGRAM THAT DART ADMINISTERED AT THAT TIME TO ALL 13 MEMBER CITIES.
UM, DART WITHHELD 21.1 MILLION FOR DESIGN DELAYS, UH, AND BETTERMENTS ALONG THE SILVER LINE CORRIDOR.
WHILE DART ALSO, UH, PAID 10 MILLION TO NCT COG FOR THE REGIONAL RAIL, OR THE REGIONAL TRAIL REVOLVER LOAN PROGRAM, UH, THAT WAS DEVIATED FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS, 111 MILLION LEAVING, UH, 80 MILLION ELIGIBLE FOR PTI ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.
THESE ARE TRANSPORTATION, UH, UH, COMPLEMENTARY PROJECTS, UH, IN THE REGION WITHIN DART'S MEMBER CITIES.
UM, AND WE ALSO ESTABLISHED, UH, THAT 50 MILLION OF THAT WERE IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE WITH 30 MILLION HELD FOR MILESTONES ON THE SILVER LINE PROJECT.
UH, HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THOSE FIVE MILESTONES HAVE ALL BEEN MET, UH, BETWEEN DALLAS, UH, BY DALLAS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH DART IN THE DELIVERY OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THE FINAL OF THOSE MILESTONES WAS ACTUAL THE START OF REVENUE SERVICE IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR.
UH, TO DATE, ALL OF THE $80 MILLION THEY'RE CALLED FOR HERE, UM, HAS BEEN, UH, OBLIGATED INTO PROJECTS, UH, WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND HAS A, A DURATION OF BEING EXPENDED IN APRIL OF 2027.
THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A RECAP IN THERE OF JUST, I MEAN, YOU'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION, SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS.
I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T, YOU, YOU READ THROUGH IT, BUT YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE THIS SLIDE, I THINK ON THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL DECK ON THE APPRAISALS VERSUS PURCHASE PRICE.
BUT IS THERE, UM, BUT IS THERE SOME KEY TAKEAWAY? I MEAN, AS I LOOK AT THE MEMO AND THEN I'LL, WE WILL GO TO OUR, OUR QUESTIONS JUST AS, AS PART OF THE MITIGATION PLAN, 31 MILLION WAS WITHHELD FROM DALLAS AS MONETARY RELIEF OF THE PREVIOUS DELAYS.
AND THEN IT SAYS, AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, WE BELIEVE A REVIEW OF HOW CERTAIN INTERNAL DECISIONS WERE MADE IS NEEDED AND WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.
UM, AND JUST REAL QUICK, WILL YOU REMIND US WHAT THESE, I CAN'T RECALL WHAT YOU CALLED THEM, LIKE TRANSPORTATION ADJACENT OR HAVE,
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THEY'RE NOT ADJACENT, THEY IMPACT, UM, TRANSPORTATION.WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS COULD THIS BE SPENT ON? OR WAS THIS INTENDED TO BE SPENT ON FOR THE CITY? WHAT WAS ALLOWABLE? THE, YEAH, SO, UM, I GUESS FROM, FROM THE BOARD'S POSITION ON KEY TAKEAWAYS, UM, DART AND DALLAS ENGAGED IN A, UM, THE SILVER LINE PROJECT TOGETHER.
UM, WE, UM, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, THERE WAS NO INTENT BETWEEN THE CITY NOR NOR DART TO BUILD THIS, UM, SPECIFIC PUMP STATION PROJECT ALONG THE WAY.
IT WAS THEN REQUESTED THE GREAT SEPARATION CAUSED US, UM, TO GO, UM, AT GRADE FOR THE, UH, SILVER LINE OVER HILLCREST, UM, THEREFORE DEPRESSING THE ROAD.
WHEN WE DEPRESSED THE ROAD, WE HAD TO BUILD A PUMP STATION.
UM, THE RECOMMENDED SITE FROM DART WAS A, YOU SEE WHAT THE COST, UM, EVALUATION WAS FOR IT.
UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITY WAS SITE D.
UM, YOU SEE, THAT OBVIOUSLY RAISED THE COST FOR US TO DO IT AT THAT SITE.
UM, AND UH, BEYOND THAT, OBVIOUSLY THE PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS, UM, INCREASED FOR THE SITE D THEN, UH, SITE A AS WELL.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THE END OF THE, AND, AND, UM, WHAT THIS SPECIFIC PUMP STATION IS A IS IS A PART OF A BIGGER, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, SERIES OF ISSUES THAT WE HAD THAT TOTALED THE $30 MILLION THAT WE ENDED UP HOLDING BACK THROUGH THE PTI FUND DISBURSEMENT.
THE PTI FUND DISBURSEMENT WAS WHEN DART HAD AN EXCESS OF, UH, ARPA FUNDS, ABOUT 200, UH, SOME ODD MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE HAD IN EXCESS THAT YEAR THAT WE DISPERSED BACK TO ALL 13 CITIES, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD AN EXCESS IN SALES TAX DUE TO THE ARPA FUNDS THAT WERE, UH, NOT NEEDED FOR OPERATIONS.
AND SO WE, WE DISPERSED BACK TO ALL 13 CITIES DURING THAT TIME, BUT BECAUSE OF MANY ISSUES THAT WE WERE HAVING WITH THE CITIES ON DELAY ON THE, WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, UH, IN REGARDS TO VARIOUS DELAYS, THIS ONE BEING ONE OF THEM, WHICH WE CAN CLEARLY IDENTIFY THE, THE TIMELINE AND SEQUENCES OF EVENTS, UM, WE, IN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DART, SAY, OUT OF THIS $111 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE BACK TO YOU ALL, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP $30 MILLION, UM, AS A, UM, TO, TO MITIGATE ALL OF THE EXPENSES AND DELAYS THAT WE HAD TO BEEN EXPERIENCING IN ADDITION TO THAT OF THE, UM, $80 MILLION THAT REMAINED, 50 MILLION OF IT WOULD BE UNENCUMBERED, BUT WE WOULD ALSO PUT 30 MILLION IN A RISK POOL THAT IF THE MILESTONES THAT WERE DELAYING THE PROJECT UP UNTIL THAT POINT WERE NOT MET, THEN WE WOULD NOT GIVE FULL ACCESS TO THE 30 MILLION.
AS TREY INDICATED, THOSE MILESTONES ENDED UP BEING MET AND WE RELEASED THE FUNDS.
AND SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THE CITY ASKS MORE OF DART, I MEAN, WE WANT TO DO MORE, WE WANT TO PROVIDE MORE SERVICES ON THE DAY TO DAY, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME BACK IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH, YOU KNOW, TROLLEYS AND, AND, AND D TWO OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, WE'RE ASKING TO, FOR YOU TO, UM, DO AN INTERNAL, UH, REVIEW OF, UM, WHATEVER THE MECHANISMS WERE GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY DURING THAT TIME.
AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE A, A REPETITION OF THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND I MEAN, WHAT I HAD ALSO ASKED WAS, WHAT, WHAT WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT TOWARD? AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, I'M NOT AS WORRIED ABOUT THE 80 MILLION YEAH.
BECAUSE YOU HAS HIT THE MILESTONES AND ALL OF THAT, BUT SO WHAT'S THE RESIDENT FACING BENEFIT THAT WAS LOST? I'M, I'M SORRY.
SO, UM, THROUGH THE AGREEMENTS OF THE PTI FUNDS, IT COULD BE SPENT ON ANY, ANY, UM, UM, TRA UH, CHAPTER 4 52 TRANSP RELATED PROJECTS.
SO STREET IMPROVEMENTS, UM, SIDEWALKS, UM, I BELIEVE CURB GUTTERS, UH, DRAINAGE, UH, ANYTHING RELATED TO CHAPTER 4 52, UM, RELATED AND ALLOWABLE PROJECTS, UM, THAT WERE TO BE APPROVED BY, BY, BY DART AND ALL THE ONES THAT YOU ALL SUBMITTED TO US, WE DID APPROVE.
UM, SO THAT THERE WAS FLEXIBILITY IN IT, BUT THE MONIES THAT WERE, UH, PROVIDED TO THE CITY AND OBVIOUSLY THE MONEY THAT WERE HELD BACK COULD HAVE WENT TO TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS, TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS.
AND I'M GOING TO GO TO COMMITTEE, BUT JUST ON CHAPTER 4 52, BECAUSE EVERYBODY PROBABLY DOESN'T KEEP IT ON THEIR BEDSIDE STAND FOR LATE NIGHT READING, LIKE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, CROSSWALKS, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS YES.
SO IF I'M A RESIDENT LISTENING TO THIS, I'M GONNA BE LIKE, WHAT WOULD THAT $30 MILLION HAVE GOTTEN ME? WELL, IT'S SOME THINGS THAT TOUCH EVERYDAY LIFE.
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COUNCIL MEMBER, ENA, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UH, CHAIR STEWART.ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR.
COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR, UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS BRIEFING AND, AND THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT 4 52 PROJECTS THAT COULD HAVE OCCURRED WITH THIS $30 MILLION THAT YOU, YOU SAYING THAT WAS AN OVERRUN THAT YOU DON'T FEEL THAT MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD TO PAY.
UM, SO, WELL, YOU CAN ANSWER THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE, THAT WE SAID WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE PAID.
I THINK WE ASSESSED HOW MUCH OF A VALUE WE, WE ASSESSED A VALUE TO THE AMOUNT OF, UH, ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT WERE COST ON US.
AND, AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT WE WITHHELD, UM, AN AMOUNT THAT WE THOUGHT WAS RELATIVE TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE HAD LOST.
SO LET ME START OFF WITH THE MONEY THAT YOU HELD BACK THAT YOU FELT THAT WAS LOST.
UM, OR HAD THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN EX HAVE BEEN ENCUMBERED OR NOT? YES, YES.
TH THOSE WERE REMOVED FROM THE, THE PTI PROGRAM AND WERE UTILIZED ELSEWHERE, BUT THROUGH DART EXPENSES.
SO THOSE, TH THAT 30 MILLION AND YOU'RE SAYING IT COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT IN THE 4 52 PROJECTS CORRECT.
FOR SAFETY CURBS, GUTTER SIDEWALKS.
WOULD THAT HAVE ALSO INCLUDED, UM, STRUCTURES AT, AT, AT, UM, DART STATE, AT DART BUS LINES? YES.
THOSE ARE OUR TYPES OF 4 52 PROJECTS.
WE WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE DONE MORE OF THOSE IN THIS CITY.
UH, SO AND YOU'RE SAYING ANY OF THE LINES OR ANY OF THE, THE BUS STATIONS THAT AREN'T, UM, PROVIDING SIDEWALKS COVERS SAFETY WAS LOST TO THE CITY BEHIND THIS, THIS EXPENDITURES? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
I'M SAYING THE MONEY THAT WAS LOST COULD HAVE WENT TO THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
DO YOU, COULD YOU, DO YOU KNOW OFFHAND IF YOU HAD ANY PROJECTS THAT WERE THAT LOST, THAT WERE LOST DUE TO THIS, THIS $30 MILLION VENDOR? I DON'T BELIEVE WE RECEIVED A LIST OF PROJECTS BEFORE THE MONEY WAS ALLOCATED.
SO I COULDN'T SAY IF ANY SPECIFIC PROJECTS WERE LOST BECAUSE WE EXTENDED THE MONEY FIRST AND THEN THE LIST OF PROJECTS, UH, THAT TOTALED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY ONLY AND ONLY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WAS SUBMITTED.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BECAUSE WE PROVIDED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FIRST AND THEN THE CITY OF DALLAS SENT US THE LIST.
I KNOW WE WENT THROUGH AN EXERCISE IN D EIGHT, UM, LAST YEAR, UH, LOCATIONS WHERE THERE WERE NO, UH, THERE WERE BUS STOPS NO.
WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAD TO STAND IN THE, IN THE ELEMENTS.
UM, AND ONE, ONE STREET THAT WE DO HAVE IS A MAJOR STREET, CAMP WILSON, UM, SIMPSON STEWART, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS, UH, BENCHES OR COVERING UP AND DOWN THAT WHOLE STREET.
THE SAME WITH, UM, BON VIEW WHEN YOU GO NORTH AND SOUTH ON BON VIEW.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S VERY MANY BUS STOPS THAT HAVE COVERING, VERY FEW OF THEM HAVE BENCHES.
SO WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN SOME OF THAT.
YES, IF, IF THAT WERE THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY AND AND SUBMITTED TO DART, THOSE DEFINITELY WOULD'VE BEEN APPROVED.
UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CADE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SOUND WALL.
WASN'T IT ALSO THAT THE SOUND WALL WAS, HAD TO BE HEIGHTENED AS WELL, WHICH INCREASED THE COST AS PART OF SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, DESIGN ITERATIONS? WE, THERE WAS A BETTERMENTS PROGRAM ALONG THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR.
UM, MUCH OF THE CITY OF DALLAS'S BETTERMENTS PROGRAM, UH, WAS DIRECTED TO, UH, THE HEIGHT, UH, OF A SOUND WALL CONSISTENT THROUGH THAT STRETCH OF, UH, NORTH DALLAS.
ALRIGHT, SO, I MEAN, MY CONCERN HERE IS THIS IS SEEMS LIKE A REALLY LONG DELAY.
I KNOW IT WAS A BIG PROJECT AND AS YOU REFERENCED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE LAST PROJECT THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DART WILL BE DOING TOGETHER.
IN FACT, I HOPE, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS FROM NOW, WE WILL HAVE A LOT MORE, UM, PROJECTS TO, TO SHOW FOR OUR RELATIONSHIP.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHERE PROCESS IS FOLLOWED AND IF NOT, WHY, UM, DO WE NEED ADDITIONAL PROCESS TO STRENGTHEN, UH,
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TO HAVE A MECHANISM TO NOT ALLOW EXTENSIVE DELAYS OR, UM, DOLLARS TO, TO RACK UP IN THIS MANNER? UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT, I MEAN, THE REASON I KEEP GOING BACK TO THESE APPRAISALS VERSUS THE PURCHASE PRICE.NOW THIS WAS DART MONEY THAT PAID FOR THIS, CORRECT? CORRECT.
BUT I IMAGINE THERE'S SOME NEGOTIATING WHEN YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT VARIOUS PROPERTY.
WHY COULD THESE NOT BE IMMINENT DOMAIN? IS IT BETTER TO JUST PURCHASE THE, FOR THE SILVER LINE PROJECT STILL HAVE TO PURCHASE? YEAH, FOR THE SILVER LINE PROJECT, IMMINENT DOMAIN WAS NOT UTILIZED IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO IT WAS UTILIZED FOR SIX PARCELS WITHIN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ON THE CORRIDOR, BUT NOT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
OH, SO YOU'RE SAYING NOT WITHIN THE CITY.
BECAUSE I MEAN, THESE PRICES ON THESE HOMES, THE DEMAN HOMES, 68% OVER APPRAISAL VALUE, UH, STAPLES 30%, AND THE HILLCREST, UH, NORD PHOTOGRAPHY PROPERTY 179% OVER VALUE.
SO I MEAN, AN IMMINENT DOMAIN, YOU KNOW, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT DECISION WAS MADE.
HOWEVER, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DELAYS AND WHETHER OUR PROCESSES WERE FOLLOWED OR IF WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR PROCESS IN THE FACE OF ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WE WILL BE DOING WITH DART IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE CITY AUDITOR TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS ASPECT.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THIS ALSO SPEAKS TO WASTE, WHICH IS INSPECTOR GENERAL.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS DECISION TO BE MADE TODAY.
THIS IS OUR CITY APPOINTED PROFESSIONALS.
UM, AND, AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL DOESN'T NEED OUR PERMISSION IN THE FACE OF WHAT COULD BE A $31 MILLION WASTE TO LAUNCH SOMETHING.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT OFFICE HOPEFULLY WOULD UNDERTAKE PROACTIVELY.
WELL THANK YOU FOR, OH, GO AHEAD.
IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE, ONE LAST THING TO THIS PROJECT IN IN PARTICULAR, UM, THAT, UM, AS OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO NOW, THE CITY OF DALLAS ACTUALLY OWNS, WE'VE CONVEYED THIS PROPERTY TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.
SO YOU ACTUALLY NOW OWN THIS SITE AND PUMP STATION AS WELL FOR THE OWNERSHIP OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
OH, REALLY? SO THAT'S BACK ON OUR, OKAY.
SO THIS, THIS PROPERTY AND, AND THE, AND THE, THE TOTALITARIAN OF THE PROJECT IS NOW THE FULL OWNERSHIP OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
ALRIGHT, UH, CHAIR, UH, BLAIR HAS A QUESTION.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT ONCE YOU PURCHASED THESE PROPERTIES, YOU NOW CONVEYED THEM BACK TO THE CITY FOR THE CITY TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE? YES, BECAUSE DART IS NOT IN THE WATER BUSINESS.
THE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS TO DIVERT POTENTIAL WATER FROM, FROM THE AREA.
DART IS NOT IN THE WATER BUSINESS.
UM, AND SO IT IS, WE, AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY, WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO BUILD THE PUMP STATION, UM, AND NOW THE CITY OWNS IT.
AND THAT IS OUTLINED IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT EXECUTED IN AUGUST OF 2020, UM, BETWEEN THE CITY AND DART FOR THE O AND M OF THIS PUMP STATION FACILITY.
NOW, THE, THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES ARE STILL OWNED BY DART AND DARTS IN THE PROCESS OF, OF SELLING THOSE.
SO I, THIS LEADS ME TO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I WAS NEW, I WAS TWO MONTHS OLD WHEN THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AND, UM, WITH A LITTLE GROWTH THAT'S A LITTLE MORE WISDOM, LOT MORE, MORE A LOT OF MORE QUESTIONS.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THE PUMP WAS TO PUMP OUT THE WATER BECAUSE YOU HAD TO DIG DOWN TO GO UP OR TO GO AT GRADE.
AND THAT WOULD GO TO, I GUESS OUR DWU, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE WATER AND THAT YOU, AND YOU PURCHASED THE, THE LAND YOU GAVE IT BACK TO US FOR US TO MANAGE THE, THE WATER INTAKE OUTTAKE AS IT NEEDS TO BE.
BUT THEN YOU ALSO ARE SAYING THERE WERE THREE PIECES OF PROPERTY THAT YOU ALSO NEEDED TO PURCHASE TO PROVIDE AN EASEMENT TO ACCESS THE CONSTRUCTION.
AND WHEN I LOOK ON YOUR, UM, ON PAGE 11 OF YOUR OVERVIEW, IT SHOWS THAT ON JUNE, 2022, THESE PURCH, YOU PURCHASED THESE PROPERTIES FOR 3.7 MILLION.
BUT WHEN I LOOK ON PAGE 15, UM, ONE OF THEM HAD AN APPRAISAL PRICE OF EIGHT.
WHAT IS THAT? EIGHT, 8 MILLION, 8,000.
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FOURTH PARCEL THAT'S SHOWN ON PAGE.I DON'T KNOW WHEN THINGS ARE MILLIONS AND, AND THOUSANDS AROUND HERE THAT IT'S IN, IT'S IN ACTUAL, YEAH, FULL DOLLARS THERE.
THAT'S JUST THAT LITTLE CORNER.
SO, BUT YOU PAR OKAY, SO IT WAS APPRAISED AT 8,000, BUT YOU HAD TO PURCHASE IT AT 9,009,000.
WHY DID YOU HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY? SO ALL OF THE PROPERTIES, UM, PRIOR TO OUR PURCHASE OF THEM, UM, DEMAND LETTERS WERE SENT TO DART, UM, UM, FOR, IN IMPACTS OF THE SILVER LINE TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTIES.
UM, THEY ALL CAME, I BELIEVE, PRIOR TO EVEN THE, UM, SPECIFIC PUMP STATION CONVERSATION.
UM, ONE, THE, THE THREE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OF AT THE SOUTHWEST AREA IS, UH, WAS A LAWYER THAT ACTUALLY REPRESENTED MULTIPLE, UM, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL OWNERS ADJACENT TO THE SILVER LINE AND INCLUDING THE NORTHEASTERN SITE.
AND SO, UM, THERE WAS ALREADY PRESSURE, UH, PLA THAT WAS BEING PLACED ON DART TO, UH, ACQUIRE THE PROPERTIES AND MANY OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THE SILVER LINE CORRIDOR.
UM, AND SO DEMAND LETTERS WERE SENT WITH VARIOUS, UM, PRICES, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUESTED FOR THE PURCHASES OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
I BELIEVE THE FIRST DEMAND LETTER FOR THE COMMERCIAL SITE WAS NEAR 6 MILLION.
UM, AND THE SETTLEMENT WAS NEAR THREE AND 3.35, I BELIEVE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY 6 MILLION WAS OVER THE APPRAISED VALUE AS WELL.
AND I GUESS TO MORE DIRECTLY ANSWERED THE QUESTION, WHY WE PURCHASED THEM.
UM, WELL, WE PURCHASED THEM IN, IN, IN MORE GENERALLY BECAUSE THE PUMP STATION REQUEST WAS, WAS MADE WHILE WE PURCHASED THEM AT A PRICE OVER, OVER VALUE.
UM, WELL, TO FULFILL THE REQUEST AND THE OBLIGATION TO BUILD THE PUMP STATION.
SO COULD YOU NOT HAVE PURCHASED A PIECE OF THE PROPERTY OPPOSED TO THE WHOLE PROPERTY TO GET A EASEMENT TO THE PUMP STATION OPPOSED TO, TO PURCHASING THE, ALL OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS FEASIBLE BASED ON REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENTATIONS.
THAT WAS NOT AN OPTION PROVIDED THE PURCHASE OF ALL FOUR PARCELS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE OFFER, UH, FOR THOSE TRANSACTIONS.
SO LET ME ASK, SO SPLITTING AND, AND GOING THE ROUTE OF, UH, REQUESTING IMMINENT DOMAIN AND TO BE INITIATED BY THE CITY, THIS WAS NOT DETERMINED TO BE AT A PATH AT THAT TIME.
SO THE, THE, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT WAS ALL OR NOTHING, THE NEGOTIATED SUMP YEAH.
SO FOR THE PARCELS, DO YOU NORMALLY OPERATE LIKE THIS? DEPENDS ON THE URGENCY OF THE REQUEST, RIGHT? AS AS TO PUT THE PRIORITY OF THE PROJECT AND THE URGENCY OF THE REQUEST, RIGHT? SO AS YOU MOVE FORWARD AND YOU LOOK, I'M THINKING OF AREAS THAT WE MAY NEED TO HAVE A LINE GO THROUGH OUR, OR BUY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT ANYTHING, ANY TYPE OF GROWTH THAT WE COULD HAVE WITHIN THE CITY WITH DART, WE MAY BE BACK AT A SITUATION LIKE THIS IF WE DON'T UNCOVER AND DISCOVER WHY WE OPERATED TO THIS EXTENT IN, IN THIS VALUE AT, AT THIS OVER VALUE? YEAH.
I, I GUESS I, I GUESS THAT'S ACTUALLY THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IS THAT WE HOPE THAT WE DON'T GET BACK TO A PLACE AND WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO, UM, LOOK, I MEAN, WE KNOW THE DART STORY.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S VERY, IT'S A VERY PAINFUL ONE.
UM, THERE WERE MULTIPLE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS, IF YOU GO BACK, UM, DURING THAT TIME PERIOD THAT WERE, UM, BEING HAD BY DART AND OUR LEGAL COUNSEL ON WHAT'S THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION TO GET US THROUGH THIS TIMELINE AND PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THIS WAS A MAJOR, UH, COG IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CLOG, IN THE WHEEL OF, OF MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS OF HOW AND WHY AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE'RE HERE.
SO, UM, I THINK YOU JUST MADE A VERY IMPORTANT STATEMENT WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DART STORY, SO YOU CAN TALK TO YOUR STAFF AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR SIDE OF THE FENCE BASICALLY ON THIS.
AND IN LIGHT OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS OF MY COLLEAGUES AND THIS ASTOUNDING NUMBER THAT IS NOT GOING TO MANIFEST ITSELF IN CROSSWALKS AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND SMOOTH STREETS, UM, I WOULD DIRECT OUR STAFF, WHETHER IT'S, UH, THE AUDITOR OR IG
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OR HOWEVER FOR YOU ALL TO CONFER ON WHAT HAS BEEN SHARED HERE, UM, COLLEAGUES ON THIS COMMITTEE.UM, DO WE FEEL LIKE WE WANT TO TAKE THAT STEP TO, I I I, I BELIEVE THAT THIS PRE THE PRECEDENT THAT WAS SET HERE DEMANDS THAT WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE HERE AND WITHIN THE CITY TO DISCOVER, UNCOVER, AND FIND OUT WHY, AND SET PRECEDENTS AND ROADBLOCKS SO WE DON'T DO THIS AGAIN.
ALRIGHT, WELL, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO THAT, THEN I WOULD, WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT TODAY, BUT, UM, THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT OUR COUNCIL APPOINTED STAFF THAT THIS WOULD APPLY TO CAN LOOK INTO AND FORMULATE A PLAN AS TO HOW THIS WOULD BE LOOKED INTO SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND IT TO STRENGTHEN PROCESSES OR FIND OUT WHAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED SO THAT WE CAN MAKE ANY FUTURE EFFORTS, UH, RUN ON TIME.
JUST LIKE A DART TRAIN, RIGHT?
UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TODAY TO THANK YOU HELP, UH, THANK, THANK YOU UNPEEL, THIS
WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM D AND THIS IS 12 A DASH 64 CODE OF ETHICS COUNSEL REVIEW PROCESS.
AND THOUGH WE WILL BE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED IN, UM, ITEM B, THERE IS ACTUALLY A PROCESS FOR EVALUATION THAT TAKES PLACE AND, UM, THAT'S REQUIRED.
AND SO, UM, INSPECTOR GENERAL ELIASON IS GOING TO TAKE US THROUGH THAT TIMING, WHY IT'S REQUIRED, AND LET US KNOW WHEN WE CAN, UH, HOW IT WILL WORK AND WHEN WE WOULD EXPECT IT TO COME TO FULL COUNSEL.
I'M WAITING TO SEE IF, UH, THE PRESENTATION POPS UP TO SHARE.
IT SHOULD BE, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT IS.
SHARING THE WRONG THING, BUT, HMM.
WELL, WE CAN WORK OFF THOSE SLIDES JUST THE SAME AND YOU HAVE 'EM IN YOUR DECK.
UM, THERE IS A SECTION, IT'S THE LAST SECTION IN THE CODE OF ETHICS, UH, THAT REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CODE OF ETHICS EVERY TWO YEARS IN JANUARY, EVEN NUMBERED YEARS.
AH, THERE, IT CLICKED, IT CLICKED ON.
AND SO, UH, MONTHS AGO WE BEGAN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW'S THAT BEST GOING TO HAPPEN AND HOW CAN OIG MAKE IT EASIER AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THIS DIDN'T COME UP TO YOU IN, IN JANUARY, BUT WE ARE WORKING HARD AND THIS IS WHAT THAT DECK IS ABOUT.
UH, SO LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THE DECK TO ADVANCE.
SO THE PURPOSE, LIKE I SAID, IS TO, UH, STRENGTHEN THE CODE OF ETHICS THROUGH THAT, THAT BIENNIAL REVIEW OF THE CODE AND THE, THEY'RE THE GOALS.
UM, THE FIRST THREE GOALS ARE, ARE FORMING, UH, IN MY PERSPECTIVE IS THE INTERIM IG IS THE MAIN GOALS FOR THE, UM, IG ITSELF, WHICH IS JUST PROTECTING INTEGRITY, ACHIEVING ACCOUNTABILITY, AND UPHOLDING TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENCY IN.
BUT THEN THERE'S ANOTHER GOAL, WHICH IS CLARITY OF THE CODE, WHICH IS A FORM OF TRANSPARENCY.
UH, WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS, IS IT EASY TO UNDERSTAND AND READ, NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK HERE, BUT FOR OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CITY THAT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.
AND THEN THERE ARE, UH, PARENTAL ISSUES ABOUT, UH, STRENGTHENING THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE, UH, OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL SO WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB.
SO THE, THE GOALS OF SOME OF THESE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION ARE, ARE AROUND THOSE BASIC TOPICS RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL ALSO BE SEEKING, UM, SUGGESTIONS AND INPUT FROM CITY COUNCIL, AND I BELIEVE THAT MAY BE COMING FROM THIS, THIS COMMITTEE.
I'LL, I'VE GOT A SYSTEM READY FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THE CODE AND TO TRY AND HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT WALKING AROUND LIKE 4 52, NOBODY'S WALKING AROUND WITH 12 A AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT, UH, I THINK I'VE FOUND A WAY TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THEM TO ENGAGE THE PROCESS.
AND THE FIRST STEP IS RIGHT NOW FOR THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION TO BEGIN LOOKING AT THESE SUGGESTIONS.
SO I'VE MADE ABOUT 22 OF THEM.
UH, THEY HAVE FORMED A WORKING GROUP.
THAT WORKING GROUP HAD ITS FIRST MEETING RIGHT HERE YESTERDAY.
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WE CHIPPED OFF THE EASY ONES AND WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT A DOZEN MORE THAT NEEDED MORE DISCUSSION.AND, UH, THERE'S A TIMELINE THERE.
LEMME GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE THE SLIDES.
I MAY BE, UH, GETTING AHEAD OF THE, THE SLIDES AND ALL THIS IS IN THERE.
UH, YEAH, SO THERE'S THE 22 EAC NOW WORKING GROUP IS CONSIDERING THOSE, AND THEN THEY'LL COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO A C WHO MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS BODY, WHO THEN, UH, MOVES IT FORWARD TO BRIEFING OR IN CONSIDERATION OF COUNSEL, OR MAYBE KICKS IT BACK LIKE WE DID WITH THE PERSONS DOING BUSINESS FOR A LITTLE MORE REFINEMENT.
UH, BUT THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE ARE HAVING.
AND, UH, HEADING AND HERE IS THE, UH, CALENDAR.
UH, I I, I WISH WE COULD SAY, AND THE, AND BY MARCH THIS WILL ALL BE OVER, BUT I THINK REALISTICALLY IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
UH, I, IT WAS GOOD NEWS TO ME, THE CHAIR OF THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION, TOM PERKINS, HE, HE THINKS WE CAN GET THROUGH THE REMAINING SUGGESTIONS THAT I'VE MADE IN A MEETING OR TWO.
WE, WE WILL SEE THERE'S A, A LOT THERE, BUT WE, THIS, THIS CALENDAR, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET IT TO YOU ALL IN LESS TIME.
THAT'S MY HOPE WE'RE DRIVING TO, TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED.
UH, ONE THING THAT'S NOT IN THE DECK THAT I I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS, UM, ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS IS TO RETURN TO HAVING THE IG AND MAYBE COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DO ETHICS, UH, TRAINING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR COUNCIL.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THAT.
UM, ONE IS MAKING IT EASY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
UH, ANOTHER REASON FOR DOING THAT EVERY TWO YEARS AND EVEN NUMBERED YEARS, IS TO PREPARE THE COUNCIL AND JUST GET CODE OF ETHICS ISSUES AND WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, TOP OF MIND SO THAT WHEN YOU DO GET THE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU'VE HAD JUST THAT MUCH MORE, UH, REMINDER ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE CODE.
SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING I'M VERY INTERESTED IN DOING.
AND LET'S SEE, THAT'S MORE OF WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.
SO RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE'LL BE AN OUTREACH TO COUNCIL MEMBERS REQUESTING YOUR SUGGESTIONS, UH, IN YOUR PACKETS TODAY ARE THE SUGGESTIONS THAT I MADE.
THERE'VE ALREADY BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT IS NOT FOR YOU TO REVIEW, AND I'VE GOTTA VOTE ON THIS.
IT'S JUST FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION IS SEEING.
AND MAYBE THAT WOULD PRIME THE PUMPS ON, ON WHAT YOU MIGHT SAY WOULD BE A SUGGESTION FOR THE CODE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THAT'S GONNA START, UH, REAL SOON.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE, I'VE GOT A SYSTEM FOR THAT PLANNED, UM, AND ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION WILL BE WORKING THE, IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS TO KNOCK THOSE OUT AND, AND GET RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FLOWING TOWARDS YOU ALL.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE END OF THIS DECK.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO THE EAC ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION HAS KICKED OFF THEIR WORK.
UM, AND I, I REALIZE NOW COLLEAGUES MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THIS WAS THEIR HOMEWORK WITH THIS DECK AND DUG INTO ALL OF THEM, BUT THAT REALLY WASN'T THE INTENTION, UH, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION DOES, IS THEY GO, THEY GO THROUGH THIS.
SO THEY'VE GOT PLENTY TO WORK ON RIGHT NOW WHILE THE SECOND PHASE KICKS IN, WHICH IS COUNCIL INPUT, WHICH I'LL BE SENDING A LETTER TO COLLEAGUES AND ALSO THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SIDE, WHICH YOU WERE DEVELOPING A FORM, AND I CAN INCLUDE THAT IN MY COMMUNICATION TO EVERYONE SO YOU CAN LET YOUR RESIDENTS KNOW MM-HMM
THAT, UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS OPEN TO ACCEPTING ADDITIONS, REVISIONS, AND COMMENTS ON THE ON, ON CHAPTER 12.
A, IT'S SO CRITICAL TO HOW WE OPERATE.
AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THIS.
I, I WOULD REALLY VALUE IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLAN AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS, UH, I THINK YOU ALL HAVE DONE THIS MORE THAN I HAVE
SO I WOULD WELCOME THAT IF YOU HAVE THE TIME, RING ME UP.
BUT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, I'M GONNA ROLL OUT WITH IT.
BUT, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOUR SUGGESTION.
I DO THINK IT COULD BE GOOD TO OFFER SOMETHING VIRTUALLY SO THAT MM-HMM
PEOPLE COULD JOIN IN BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF DAUNTING WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THIS.
PEOPLE AREN'T, YOU KNOW, READILY CALLING IT TO MIND.
I WILL SAY ON THE TIMELINE, WHILE I APPRECIATE IF, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD MORE QUICKLY, UH, I DIDN'T WANT TO RUSH EVERYONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS SO CRITICAL, BUT I DID, UM, YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE TIMELINE, ASK FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND, AND THAT'S TAKE PLACE IN AUGUST, REALLY BEFORE WE GET HIT WITH BUDGET.
SO, UM, BUT WITH THAT SAID, UH, I WILL GO TO MY RIGHT TO COUNCIL MEMBER.
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COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR.UM, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? NO.
WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A REQUIREMENT AND THAT WE'VE GOT A BODY THAT DIGS INTO THIS, HAS A WORKING GROUP AND TAKES IT VERY SERIOUSLY AND THAT COUNSEL CAN CONTRIBUTE, THE PUBLIC CAN CONTRIBUTE.
ALRIGHT, WELL IF YOU'LL SIT TIGHT FOR JUST ONE MORE MOMENT.
IT IS A MEMO FROM THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL.
UM, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, UM, IF WE UNDERSTOOD WHAT REPORTING IS REQUIRED AS WE ARE ALL UNDERSTANDING THIS POSITION AND, AND WHAT YOU DO.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR ACCOUNTABILITY AND YOUR REPORTING IS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MEMO? WELL, IT WASN'T AVAILABLE.
UM, OH, IT WAS THROUGH, I MEAN, I GOT MY, UM, AGENDA THROUGH REGISTRAR AND IT SAYS IT'S NOT AVAILABLE.
UM, I, I THOUGHT I SAW, UM, IT MAY BE UNDER THE MEETING DETAILS.
UM, DO YOU JUST WANNA TOP LINE SURE.
WHAT YOU OUTLINED ON THIS? SO THERE ARE TWO, TWO REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE FOR REPORTING HAVING TO DO WITH, WITH OUR OFFICE.
THE FIRST IS FOR THE ETHICS ADVISORY COMMISSION TO MAKE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE SECOND IS FOR, UH, OUR OFFICE TO MAKE QUARTERLY REPORTS.
UH, AND SO WE DO THAT AND HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.
THEY'RE NOW AVAILABLE UNDER THE RESOURCES TAB OF OUR WEBSITE.
THE MOST RECENT ONE SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE BEEN DOING MONTHLY REPORTS.
THE CONTENT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UH, BUT THOSE ARE ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND THEN WE ARE DEVELOPING NEW WAYS OF REPORTING AND BEING TRANSPARENT.
THE MANAGEMENT ADVISORY, WE TALKED ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT ALERT, WHICH IS THE EMERGENCY THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING RIGHT NOW.
AND SO, RIGHT, AS FAR AS TRANSPARENCY GOES, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT ARE REQUIRED AND THAT WE'RE JUST DOING.
AND BECAUSE THIS POSITION IS STILL RELATIVELY NEW TO THE CITY AND TO THE PUBLIC, UM, JUST OUTLINING WHAT THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, ARE CRITICAL.
I DID NOTICE AS WE DIRECT PEOPLE TO THE INFORMATION THAT YOUR OFFICE HAS CREATED THAT ON DALLAS.GOV AND ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER GIBSON, I WILL ASK THIS OF YOU, IS THAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAS NOT BEEN LISTED THERE WITH CITY SECRETARY, CITY AUDITOR AND OTHERS.
AND SO I'VE SENT SOME COMMUNICATIONS TO ASK THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE HAPPEN SO THAT IT'S VERY EASY FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO RIGHT TO YOUR INFORMATION.
ALRIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS, THEN WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 2:27 PM THANK YOU.