Feb 25, 2026 City Council Agenda Meetings

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A QUORUM.

[AGENDA CITY COUNCIL MEETING WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2026 ORDER OF BUSINESS ]

IT'S WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 25TH, 2026 TIMES 9:28 A.M..

I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER.

OUR INVOCATION. SPEAKER IS NONE OTHER THAN OUR COLLEAGUE, OUR ALWAYS DAPPER.

CHAIRMAN MAXI JOHNSON, THE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DISTRICT FOUR WHO ALSO IS THE PASTOR OF THE NEW MORNING STAR MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN WEST DALLAS, TEXAS. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR INVOCATION.

THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG FIRST, AND THEN THE STATE OF TEXAS FLAG. THANK YOU. PASTOR. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU.

LET US ALL STAND. I KNOW WE'RE BUSY GETTING IN, SO JUST TAKE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE BEFORE WE PRAY.

FATHER. WE THANK YOU THIS MORNING. WE THANK YOU, LORD, THAT YOU ALLOWED US TO WAKE UP THIS MORNING, CLOSING OUR RIGHT MIND WITH ACTIVITIES OF OUR LIMBS.

WE THANK YOU, LORD, BECAUSE YOU BLESSED US TO SEE ANOTHER DAY.

YOU'VE COVERED US, YOU PROTECTED US. AND FOR THAT WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL.

GOD, EVEN DURING THIS SEASON, MANY OF US HAVE HAD HARD TIMES, FAMILY ISSUES AND GOD.

WE NEED YOUR STRENGTH. THIS MORNING. WE CALL ON YOU GOD, BECAUSE WE NEED YOU.

IT'S A SONG THAT SAYS IT'S ME, OH LORD, IT'S ME, OH LORD.

STANDING IN THE NEED OF PRAYER. SAID, NOT MY BROTHER, NOT MY SISTER, BUT IT'S ME.

THE WRITER TOOK THE TIME TO BE A LITTLE SELFISH, TO LET HIM LET YOU KNOW THAT GOD, NO MATTER WHAT'S GOING ON, WE STILL NEED YOU. SO GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS US TODAY, STRENGTHEN OUR MAYOR, STRENGTHEN OUR CITY MANAGER, STRENGTHEN OUR COUNCIL AS WE DO THE WORK THAT YOU'VE ALLOWED US TO DO.

GOD, WE THANK YOU. BECAUSE THIS IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND GOD, WE KNOW THAT WE STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF SO MANY GREAT LEADERS, THE SHOULDERS OF DOCTOR MARTIN LUTHER KING, THE SHOULDERS OF MALCOLM X, THE SHOULDERS OF HARRIET TUBMAN, MARCUS GARVEY, SHIRLEY CHISHOLM, SOJOURNER TRUTH, REVEREND JESSE JACKSON.

FATHER, WITHOUT YOUR GUIDANCE, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THE WORK THAT YOU ANOINTED THEM TO DO.

AND SO, GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS US, STRENGTHEN US, LORD.

AND WE SAY, FATHER, WE STRETCH OUR HANDS TO THEE.

NO OTHER HELP THAT WE KNOW. IF YOU WITHDRAW YOURSELF FROM US, GOD, WHERE WILL WHERE SHALL WE GO? SO, GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO GUIDE US.

BRING LOVE WHERE HATE ABIDE, BRING US TOGETHER, GOD WHERE THERE'S DIVISION.

AND LET US SEE THAT WE ARE ONE IN SPITE OF OUR DIFFERENCES.

THAT'S WHAT MAKE US UNIQUE. GOD. SO GOD, WE PRAY FOR ONENESS THIS MORNING.

WE PRAY FOR TOGETHERNESS, NOT JUST HERE IN OUR COUNCIL LORD, BUT ACROSS OUR NATION.

GOD, WE DRIVE HATE OUT WITH LOVE BECAUSE YOU SAID, FOR YOU SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT YOU GAVE GOD.

LET US GIVE THAT SAME LOVE TO OUR BROTHERS, TO OUR SISTERS, DESPITE OF THE COLOR OF OUR SKINS OR THE ZIP CODE THAT WE LIVE IN.

GOD, YOU HAVE CREATED US TO BE UNIQUE. WE ARE ALL YOUR CHILDREN.

SO NOW GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS US. LET YOUR WILL BE DONE.

NOT OUR WILL, LORD, BUT YOUR WILL. AND WE THANK YOU.

CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR CHILDREN, HIS FAMILY, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER FAMILY AS WE DO YOUR WORK TODAY.

IT'S IN YOUR SON'S NAME. WE PRAY. LET EVERYONE SAY AMEN.

AMEN. ALRIGHT. PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE.

TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYONE. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

LET ME MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS.

WE DON'T ANY SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. WE DO NOT.

AND SO WITH THAT, MADAM SECRETARY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND HELPING US WITH OUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS.

[ OPEN MICROPHONE]

THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR ITS FIRST FIVE SPEAKERS.

I WILL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.

PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY.

FIRST SPEAKER CARROLL. BILL WALTON. GOOD MORNING.

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SLIGHTLY BEFORE MY TIME, DALLAS RESIDENTS VOTED TO FULFILL THE VISION OF ERIC JOHNSON.

I'M GOING TO CALL HIM ERIC THE GREATER, AND HIS ARCHITECTURAL WONDER WAS SUPPORTED BY VOTERS AND CREATED BY EXCEPTIONAL VISION.

IT WAS A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. THE PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO VOTE.

NOW WE HAVE COUNCIL REPS SAYING THIS IS WHAT THEY ELECTED ME TO DO.

THE PEOPLE ARE TOO EMOTIONAL. THESE SELF-PROCLAIMED HEROES ARE SAVING US FROM OURSELVES.

THEY ARE EFFECTIVELY SAYING THAT VOTERS ARE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS AND EASY TO FOOL.

THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE. THE PEOPLE OBJECT BECAUSE THIS IS OUR BUILDING.

NOT ALL DALLAS RESIDENTS ARE FROM THE THROWAWAY CULTURE, THE THROWAWAY MCMANSION CULTURE.

SOME DALLAS RESIDENTS DO BELIEVE THAT THE GOALS OF CAPP THROUGH MOST, THOUGH MOST OF THE COUNCIL APPEARS TO HAVE FORGOTTEN THE DIRECTIONS FOR REUSE OF BUILDINGS. THESE PLANS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED SINCE MARK CUBAN SOLD THE MAVERICKS, BUT WERE SECRETED SO THE CONVENTION CENTER ELECTION AND THE 2025 BOND ELECTIONS WOULD PASS. THE COUNCIL HAS PUT OTHER MEASURES FORWARD, BURYING THE NEEDS OF CITY HALL INTENTIONALLY.

I'LL ADMIT THAT THERE IS NOTHING MORE DALLAS THAN HAVING A LOSING TEAM AND A FLASHY STADIUM, BUT I'M NOT BUYING THE HYPER INFLATED NEEDS AND PRICES.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT IN NOVEMBER, ONE COUNCILMAN LET THE FINAL NUMBER SLIP BEFORE THE PROCESS EVEN STARTED.

THAT WAS VERY TELLING, THAT HE DOUBLED THE ESTIMATE AT THE TIME AND CAME UP WITH THE FINAL NUMBER BEFORE THE REVIEW PROCESS BEGAN.

THE TRUST LEVEL IN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT HAS PLUMMETED.

THIS IS OUR NEXT TRINITY. TROLL ROAD DEVELOPERS ARE SALIVATING.

YET THERE IS SO MUCH LAND IN DOWNTOWN THAT HAS LESS DESIRABLE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE SAME DEVELOPERS WHO WANT IT ALL ARE HAVING FUNDRAISERS FOR TURNED OUT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THAT IS SUSPICIOUS. AND DON'T. I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GO THERE.

LET THE VOTERS DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO ERASE DALLAS'S HISTORY AND SYMBOLS OF CIVIL, CIVIL RIGHTS AND CIVIC PRIDE.

IT TOOK THOUSANDS OF VOTES TO APPROVE THE PROJECT.

YET A SINGLE COUNCIL VOTE CAN DESTROY IT. THAT'S NOT WHAT ANYONE WAS ELECTED TO DO.

AND SUCH ARROGANCE IS DECIDEDLY UNDEMOCRATIC.

WHETHER IT'S SUPPORTING THE MAVERICKS, COZYING UP TO MAGA REPUBLICANS FOR FUTURE FAVOR, COZYING UP TO DEVELOPERS, HOLDING FUNDRAISERS AND MAKING PROMISES THAT COUNCILPERSONS WILL BE THE NEXT MAYOR OR BEARING THE EXTRAORDINARY ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF ERIC THE GREAT.

THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL SEEMS TO HAVE SELF-INTEREST IN THE FOREFRONT.

LET'S HAVE AN ELECTION TO FUND OR DESTROY THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.

WE CAN ALSO HAVE AN ELECTION. CONSIDER HAVING AN ELECTION TO RECALL THE CONVENTION CENTER FUNDING.

IF NOT FOR THAT, WE COULD FUND THIS. THANK YOU.

ELIAS CANALES. GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

OKAY, SO I AM. GOOD MORNING. I'M UNDER CONTRACT ON TWO LOTS.

60 11 CHELSA 60 14 CHELSA. WHEN SPEAKING WITH THE COUNCILMAN'S, THEY SAID IT'S ACTUALLY CHELSEA, NOT CHELSEA. AND THE LOTS ARE PLATTED. THE CITY DID IMPROVE FATIMA AND PALL MALL.

HOWEVER, THEY DID LEAVE OUT CHELSEA. THERE IS A BOND PACKAGE AND SO I'M HERE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT THEY CAN IMPROVE THIS ROAD.

I'M SEEING THAT THEY DID INCREASE PALL MALLS PAVING AND UTILITIES AS WELL AS FATIMA.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP THAT INCLUDED SEE EVERYTHING IN RED THAT HAS SOLD IN THE LAST 150 DAYS IN GREEN, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS AREA IS IMPROVING RAPIDLY.

IT'S BEEN INCREASING IN PRODUCTION RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S ACTIVELY 15 NEW PROPERTIES GETTING APPROVED.

SO I'M SEEING IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN IMPROVE.

CHELSEA, I HAVE TWO OTHER DEVELOPERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING ON THIS STREET AS WELL.

THERE'S NOT MANY LOTS THERE. I BELIEVE THERE'S 12 TOTAL, AND I ALREADY HAVE TWO OTHER PEOPLE ON BOARD WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP OUT, AND ADDING NEW HOMES TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO INCREASE SAFETY INCREASE PROPERTY VALUE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY EXIST THERE. AND ALL OF THIS WAS UNIMPROVED LAND BEFORE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT'S GETTING DEVELOPED IS ON LAND THAT WAS NOTHING BEFORE UNTIL IT WAS PLATTED.

THIS WOULD BE GREAT FOR HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE ALREADY THERE AND HAVE LAND, AND WHO WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY FOR MORE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

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YEAH. THANKS. TESSA. CONNELL. TESSA. CONNELL.

IT'S NOT PRESENT. TIFFANY. ALEXANDER. BELL. TIFFANY.

ALEXANDER. BELL. IT'S NOT PRESENT. SAMUEL. MORTIMER.

SAMUEL MORTIMER IS NOT PRESENT. MARC STERENBERG.

GOOD MORNING. MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MARC STERNBERG, AND I'M A DALLAS RESIDENT AND THE VICTIM OF A DOCUMENTED MULTI YEAR CAMPAIGN OF RACIAL HARASSMENT AND RETALIATION BY WILLOWBROOK PROPERTY COMPANY, FORMERLY LINCOLN PROPERTY COMPANY, AS THEY REBRANDED IN 2023.

THIS IS A CORPORATION THAT OPERATES THOUSANDS OF UNITS IN THE CITY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

FOR YEARS, MY INTERRACIAL FAMILY HAS ENDURED RACIAL INTIMIDATION AT THE WILLOWBROOK PROPERTY NAMED LOFT PLUS ROW.

THIS INCLUDES ITS PROPERTY MANAGER, CRYSTAL GARVIN, PERFORMING A DOCUMENTED NOOSE GESTURE POSITION, POSITIONING HER BODY AT HER HOME. WHEN WE REPORTED IT, WILLOWBROOK PURCHASE.

LEGAL TEAM DISMISSED THE VIDEO AS A FEMALE RETRACTING A DOG LEASH.

THIS IS AFTER A BLACK MAN RUNS OUT OF HER APARTMENT SAYING IT'S CALLED THE WHITE POWER.

WE FLED TO ANOTHER COMPLEX AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

THE RETALIATION FOLLOWED US. A RESIDENT WHO LIVED AT THE COMPLEX DURING THE TIME OF OUR HARASSMENT WAS INSTALLED AS OUR NEW PROPERTY MANAGER, PROVIDING A COORDINATED INTER CORPORATE PIPELINE DESIGNED TO CONTINUE THE INTIMIDATION.

WOOLBRIDGE HAS ENGAGED IN ACTIVE SURVEILLANCE OF WHISTLEBLOWERS LIKE US, MONITORING OUR COMMUNICATIONS, TRACKING OUR ADVOCACY, AND WORKING TO SILENCE EVERY AVENUE FOR US TO SEEK JUSTICE AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.

THEY HAVE THREATENED OTHER VICTIMS WHO TRIED TO COORDINATE WITH US.

THEY HAVE FALSIFIED RECORDS. THEY HAVE CAUSED PROBLEMS AT MY WORK.

THEY HAVE MINIMIZED OUR CLAIMS. THEY HAVE MOVED COURT DATES.

THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO ENSURE OUR VOICES NEVER REACH THE PUBLIC.

THIS IS NOT BEHAVIOR OF A COMPANY THAT MADE A MISTAKE.

THIS IS A BEHAVIOR OF A COMPANY WITH SOMETHING TO HIDE.

WILLOWBRIDGE ENDORSES RACISM IN THEIR COMPANY AND TOWARDS THEIR TENANTS.

AND HERE IS WHY THEY ARE SO DESPERATE TO SILENCE US.

WILLOWBRIDGE IS INVOLVED IN THE RECENT REALPAGE LAWSUIT SURROUNDING THE INFLATION OF RENTAL PRICES.

THEY ARE ALREADY UNDER FEDERAL SCRUTINY. ON FEBRUARY 2ND, I PRESENTED THIS EVIDENCE OF THE NOOSE GESTURE AND VARIOUS OTHER FOOTAGE TO DALLAS FAIR HOUSING OFFICE AFTER THE OBVIOUS OFFICE PREVIOUSLY OPENING A CASE.

AND THEY REJECTED THIS. THEY DIDN'T EVEN WANT ME TO EVEN TALK ABOUT THIS.

THEY EVENTUALLY TOLD US, AFTER A BRIEF, ABRUPT PHONE CALL THAT THE DIRECTOR, COREY LIVINGSTON, TOOK, DECIDED TO STARE ME SQUARE IN THE FACE DURING A VIDEO CALL AND TELL ME, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT REACHES THE 51% THRESHOLD. IT DOESN'T REACH THAT.

IT'S A 50%. LET ME REMIND YOU THAT THE NOOSE GESTURE IS THE MOST RACIAL SYMBOL OF TERROR IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT TO HAVE DALLAS FAIR HOUSING IN OTHER PLACES TELL US, OH, GO FIND AN ATTORNEY, GO FIND THIS, GO FIND THAT AND NOT OFFER.

EVEN THE SYMPATHY OR ANYBODY TO HELP IS EGREGIOUS.

ON TOP OF THIS, THIS. WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES.

WE'VE HAD BLACK HIT BOOKSTORE, WE'VE HAD SABBATICAL.

WE'VE HAD VARIOUS OTHER TENANTS THREATENED INTO SILENCE FOR SPEAKING TO US.

SO WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED. YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

BARBARA VAN PELT.

HI. MY NAME IS BARBARA VAN PELT. I LIVE AT 1511 SAN SABA DRIVE IN DALLAS.

I AM IN PAULA BLACKMAN'S DISTRICT NINE, AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF THE FRIENDS OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY.

I AM A MEMBER OF THAT BOARD. WE RAISE FUNDS AND PROVIDE ADVOCACY FOR THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.

WHAT WE CAN'T PROVIDE IS OPERATING FUNDS AND SALARIES.

THE CITY LIBRARIES PROVIDE SO MANY DIFFERENT SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE CITY GUIDELINES FOR WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THE BUDGETING THIS LAST YEAR, AND YOUR OVERALL GUIDING PRINCIPLES ARE CONNECTION, COLLABORATION, AND COMMUNICATION.

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THAT IS A DEFINITION ALMOST OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE DOING FREE TAX RETURNS AT A NUMBER OF OUR BRANCHES.

THERE ARE PROGRAMS PROVIDED FOR BOTH ADULT EDUCATION AS WELL AS YOUTH AND CHILDREN EDUCATION.

THERE ARE THERE ARE PROGRAMS EVERYWHERE. MY CONCERN IS THE $2.6 MILLION THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET.

THAT MONEY IS, HAS DECIMATED BASICALLY THE OPERATING HOURS OF OUR LIBRARIES AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

WE ARE GOING TO BE DOWN TO 40 HOURS A WEEK ON AVERAGE.

IF THIS BUDGET CUT GOES THROUGH YOU'VE HIRED A LIBRARY DIRECTOR WITH EXPERIENCE IN URBAN LIBRARIES.

SHE WANTS TO LOOK AT A REGIONAL MODEL. AND TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW WITH THAT BUDGET CUT WOULD REQUIRE CLOSING FOUR LIBRARIES.

OUR BOARD IS NOT. AND THE BOARD OF THE FRIENDS IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

WE WANT TO KEEP OUR LIBRARIES OPEN, PROVIDE SERVICES ALL OVER THE CITY.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE $3.3 MILLION THAT YOU RECEIVED WHEN THE SKILLMAN SOUTHWEST BRANCH WAS AUCTIONED OFF RECENTLY AND PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO LIBRARIES, THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY VOTED FOR THAT MONEY TO BE USED FOR THE LIBRARY SYSTEM.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO AUCTION OFF OUR BUILDINGS THAT WERE BASICALLY PAID FOR BY THE CITY FOR THE LIBRARIES, THEN PLEASE PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE LIBRARIES SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE ALL OF OUR BRANCHES AT REASONABLE, SERVICEABLE HOURS THAT OUR CITIZENS NEED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. AZAEL ALVAREZ.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. I WAS I WAS HERE TO PRESENT A VIDEO, AND I BELIEVE I SHARED HANDOUTS WITH YOU ALL THROUGH EMAIL.

AND IT WAS ABOUT TWO IMPERSONATION REPORTS THAT I'VE CONFIRMED THROUGH PEERS AND ALSO A STATEMENT THAT HAS BEEN SIGNED BY JOINT ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS HERE. BUT I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF I CAN SHARE ON THE SCREEN HERE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU GOT TO SHARE IT. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN PLEASANT GROVE. LATE JUNE AND JIM MILLER, WE ENDED UP RUNNING INTO SOME ICE AGENTS.

BUT WE ALSO RAN INTO POLICE. AND THIS IS THE WHOLE INTERACTION.

DID YOU GET A JOB? YOU SAID GET A JOB. YOU SAID GET A.

MONDAY.

THAT WOULD BE. OKAY, SINCE THERE'S NO SOUND. I WILL NARRATE ON THIS.

WE ASKED DPD WHO THOSE MASKED MEN WERE OUTSIDE, AND THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

AND WE WERE ASKING QUESTIONS. AND I WAS INSTEAD QUESTIONED MYSELF AS TO WHY I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS.

AND I'M CONCERNED AS TO WHAT HAPPENED. AS YOU CAN SEE, DPD WAS WATCHING ALONGSIDE AS THEY WERE TRYING TO BREAK INTO THIS CAR WHILE I WAS PUMPING

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WE ENDED UP VERIFYING THAT THESE WERE ICE AGENTS.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. CONCERNED RESIDENTS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CONCLUSION OF ITS CITY BUSINESS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY MAKING A MOTION, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA.

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ALL RIGHT. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THE MINUTES ARE ADOPTED. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM.

BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, YOU DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ALL AGENDA ITEMS DOLORES PHILLIPS.

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WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 60.

AGENDA ITEM THREE HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

AGENDA ITEM 25 WAS CORRECTED. AGENDA ITEM 27 WAS CORRECTED.

AGENDA ITEM 28 WAS CORRECTED. AGENDA ITEM 29 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

AGENDA ITEM 47 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 48 IS CORRECTED AND HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 49 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON WEST, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WALLACE AND COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT ON AGENDA ITEM 45, THERE'S A CORRECTION.

THE ITEM LIST CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO, WHEN IT SHOULD LIST COUNCIL DISTRICT 14.

THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO FIVE THROUGH 30 THROUGH 46 AND 50 THROUGH 60. THIS IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND, THE MOTION.

AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

OKAY. YOUR LIGHT'S ON. YES. THANK YOU. SO YOU DO FIVE MINUTES ON CONSENT? YES. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU. I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT TWO ITEMS, BOTH RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY. THE FIRST ONE IS ITEM 60, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF MEET AND CONFER.

AND I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD GET AN ANSWER ON WHY.

MEET AND CONFER IS ONLY FOR ONE YEAR.

GOOD MORNING. COUNCILWOMAN DOMINIC CARTER'S CHIEF OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

AFTER NEGOTIATING AND TALKING WITH THE ASSOCIATIONS, THEY FELT IT WAS BEST TO HAVE A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT AND COME BACK AND DO A LONGER AGREEMENT AFTER GETTING THIS ONE DONE. SO THIS AGREEMENT EXPIRES IN SEPTEMBER? YES, MA'AM. BECAUSE WE ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING WITH NO AGREEMENT.

CORRECT. WE'RE STILL OPERATING UNDER THE I THINK IT'S A IT'S A CERTAIN CLAUSE IN THE CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT WILL GO THROUGH THE END OF I BELIEVE IT'S MARCH. AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE THIS AGREEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALLY DISSOLVED.

WE'RE WORKING NOW AS THIS AGREEMENT PASSED TO HOPEFULLY GET ANOTHER AGREEMENT IN PLACE BEFORE ANY OF THAT HAPPENS AGAIN.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE AGREEMENT ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING UNDER THIS BUFFER PERIOD. RIGHT.

AND THEN THIS WILL JUST TAKE US TO THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

YES, MA'AM. AND WHAT IS YOUR INTENTION FOR THE NEXT ONE? FOR THE NUMBER OF YEARS? TRADITIONALLY, THIS IS A MULTI YEAR AGREEMENT.

USUALLY WE TRY TO LOOK AT THREE YEAR AGREEMENTS.

BUT OF COURSE IT'S A NEGOTIATION. AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH YOU ASSOCIATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH THE CITY AND THE ASSOCIATION HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT REFLECTS THE WORK THAT WE PUT IN. WELL, AS A GOVERNANCE NOTE, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I WOULD STRONGLY PREFER A MULTI-YEAR AGREEMENT THAT PROVIDES CERTAINTY TO OUR BUDGET IN TERMS OF COST ESCALATIONS, WHAT WE NEED FOR FACILITIES AND PLANNING.

YES. BUT ALSO HELPS WITH RETENTION OF OFFICERS WHO HAVE THE CERTAINTY OF KNOWING WHAT THE TERMS ARE OF THEIR EMPLOYMENT.

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THE SECOND ITEM I HAVE IS ABOUT THE POLICE ACADEMY.

SO PERHAPS YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAY THERE? I'M NOT SURE.

SO. SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, FOR MEET AND CONFER, I'M ALSO VERY GLAD IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED BY THE POLICE AND FIRE OFFICERS.

AND SO I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. AND I'M VERY HAPPY THAT, AGAIN, JUST LOOKING FOR A LONGER TERM FOR THE POLICE ACADEMY.

ALSO GLAD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER AND OWNER'S REP CONTRACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE.

BUT CAN YOU TELL US, CAN YOU CONFIRM THE DATE OF COMPLETION FOR THIS PROJECT? SURE. I HAVE DEB RASTOGI COME STAND WITH ME AND KIND OF GIVE THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN FOR YOUR QUESTION.

THE POLICE ACADEMY PROJECT IS SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED IN 2028.

AND SO THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE CONTRACT, AS YOU MENTIONED, IS GOING TO HELP US STAY ON TRACK AND ON SCHEDULE TO MEET THAT DEADLINE.

AND WHEN YOU SAY 2028, IS THAT A JANUARY OR DECEMBER 2020? I'M FORGETTING THE EXACT MONTH. SO JENNY'S GOING TO HELP ME MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE THE CORRECT MONTH.

OKAY. SO JENNY NISWANDER, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF BONDING, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, AND THE END DATE THAT WE ARE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS THE SUMMER OF 2028. DECEMBER. SUMMER. SUMMER. YEAH.

OKAY. AND DO YOU HAVE ALL THE FUNDING NEEDED FOR THIS PROJECT IN PLACE? TODAY WE HAVE $96.5 MILLION THAT'S COMMITTED.

WE HAVE A ACTIVE FUNDRAISING EFFORT THAT IS ONGOING, AND WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH WITH THE FUNDRAISING TEAM TO HELP SUPPORT THEM IN ACHIEVING AND ACHIEVING THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT'S NEEDED.

THE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY BUDGETED AT $185 MILLION 185, AND YOU HAVE 96.5 MILLION COMMITTED.

CORRECT. OKAY. IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN, WE DO HAVE PLANNED A FULL BRIEFING ON APRIL THE 18TH, OR WE CAN BRING THAT ENTIRE FINANCING PACKAGE ABOUT THE ACADEMY TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL.

I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT PREVIOUSLY. SO WE'RE STILL ON SCHEDULE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE AND READY TO GO IN APRIL.

WELL, I'M EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR OUR STATE LEADERS, FOUNDATIONS, PHILANTHROPIC INDIVIDUALS AND LEADING COMPANIES THAT ARE STEPPING UP TO HELP MAKE THIS HAPPEN. BUT WHAT IS THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT BEFORE THERE'S SO THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE PRIORITY FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT FROM THE CITY BEFORE ANY OTHER PROJECT? WELL, NUMBER ONE, THIS IS A COMMITMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE THAT OUR VOTERS HAVE ALSO MADE AS PART OF THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM THAT THEY WANT TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ACADEMY. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH THE THE PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE COMMITTED TO THE FUNDRAISING, THAT THERE ARE OTHER STRATEGIES THAT WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT. WE ARE PLANNING TO BRING A FULL BRIEFING IN APRIL THAT IDENTIFIES ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF FUNDS, AND THAT WAY THE COUNCIL CAN GET A FULL OVERVIEW OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO COMMIT AND MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.

THANK YOU. THIS BUILDING SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED 30 YEARS AGO.

IT'S BEEN PLANNED FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, AND INSTEAD WE'VE BEEN PAYING A RENT EVERY YEAR OF $1 MILLION FOR, FRANKLY, A PUTRID FACILITY. SO THIS ABSOLUTELY HAS TO HAPPEN.

MAYOR YOU HAVE SAID YOU THINK YOUR LEGACY IS ADDRESSING ISSUES THAT WERE CREATED BEFORE YOU WERE ELECTED, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU AND OTHERS ON THIS COUNCIL TO AFFIRM THIS PROJECT AS OUR MOST IMPORTANT IN THE CITY AND NOT ALLOW IT TO BE LOST OR SECONDARY TO ANY OTHER PROJECT IN THE CITY WITH DELAYS OR COST OVERRUNS, OVERRUNS WHICH WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER PROJECTS.

AS CHAIR OF PUBLIC SAFETY, I'VE MOVED OUR MONTHLY UPDATES ON THIS PROJECT TO THE SECOND ITEM FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER AND BE BRIEFED ON, RIGHT AFTER RECRUITING AND RETENTION AND BEFORE VIOLENT CRIME.

IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT THIS PROJECT HAPPEN. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PRIORITIZING IT AND FOR OUR PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WE ARE CERTAINLY COUNTING ON TO HELP US WITH COMPLETION.

THANK YOU. MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON CONSENT.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE ITEM 22, WHICH WAS THE ECONOMIC REPORT FOR THE TIF DISTRICT,

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I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT THESE TIFS BY BY THEIR OPERATION ARE REALLY VALUABLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY. THE, THE IN OUR PARTICULAR CASE, WITH THIS PARTICULAR TIF, THERE'S BEEN AN INCREASE IN SIGNIFICANT REAL ESTATE VALUES WHICH WILL WHICH HAVE ABSOLUTELY BENEFITED THE AREA IN VALLEY VIEW AS WELL AS THE AREA REDFORD MALL.

AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US AS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORT TO TRY TO PROMOTE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THOSE AREAS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY ADVANTAGEOUSLY BENEFITED BY THESE TIFS AND SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TO MANAGE AND IMPROVE AND ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN THESE TIFF AREAS, I THINK IS SIGNIFICANT TO THE WELL-BEING AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF OF OUR CITY AS A WHOLE. ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO REVIEW THESE THESE REPORTS.

AND AGAIN, I'D ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS AND DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE TIFF AREAS.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT ITEM 35.

IT'S A BIKE LANE ENHANCEMENTS ON ZANG BOULEVARD BETWEEN BECKLEY AND HOUSTON.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. IT'S GOING TO USE DART FUNDS TO BEEF UP A CURRENTLY EXISTING BIKE LANE INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDING A BIKE LANE NEAR PUBLIC TRANSIT AND PARKS. THIS IS A KEY MOVE TO HELP THE DALLAS BIKE PLAN MOVE FORWARD AND CONNECT OUR BIKE ROUTES, JUST LIKE WE UNFAILINGLY CONNECT ROADS FOR DRIVERS.

THIS PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETE WITHIN 120 DAYS OF THE AWARD IN TIME FOR THE WORLD CUP, AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR VISITORS DOWNTOWN TO BIKE INTO NORTH OAK CLIFF AND TO VISIT OUR PARKS AND OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT WILL KEEP OUR CYCLISTS SAFE FOR YEARS TO COME.

AS I HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED, PAIN ALONE CANNOT KEEP CYCLISTS SAFE.

WE NEED PHYSICAL SEPARATORS IN THE BIKE LANE BUFFERS AND I'M GLAD THIS FUNDING WILL DO SO.

THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM 36 ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE HARWOOD BIKE LANE SAFETY IMPROVEMENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHICH IS LOCATED IN DISTRICTS 14 AND TWO.

THIS IS A MUCH NEEDED PROJECT, AS WAS PREVIOUSLY STATED BY MY COLLEAGUE WEST, THAT WILL ENHANCE BIKER SAFETY AND PROVIDE AN INDUCEMENT FOR PEOPLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES WHERE THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE DOING SO TODAY.

AND THIS IS ALSO GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT LINK TO THE HARWOOD COMPLETE STREETS PROGRAM UNDER THE 2024 BOND, WHICH WILL EXTEND FROM KLYDE WARREN PARK DOWN TO MAIN STREET.

SO THIS IS PART OF FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL CONNECT UP AND ENHANCE THE VALUE OF BOTH INITIATIVES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE CONSENT AGENDA? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE.

[3. Authorize an amendment to the Dallas Housing Resource Catalog (DHRC) to (1) amend the Dallas Homebuyer Assistance Program statement (Exhibit A, pp. 14-21) to provide expanded administration and adjust affordability periods to align with changes to federal HOME Investment Partnership Program regulations; (2) amend the Dallas Housing Finance Corporation program statement (Exhibit A, pp. 58-63) to formalize program operations; (3) amend the Dallas Public Facility Corporation program statement (Exhibit A, pp. 64-69) to formalize program operations; (4) amend the Housing Tax Credit Program statement in (Exhibit A, pp. 53-56) to clarify application criteria and process; (5) remove the Title Clearing and Clouded Title Prevention Program, as program is no longer available; and (6) make general edits throughout the DHRC (Exhibit A) to clean up formatting and grammar - Financing: No cost consideration to the City *In alignment with Dallas Housing Resource Catalog.]

RE AGENDA ITEM THREE AUTHORIZE AN AMENDMENT TO THE DALLAS HOUSING RESOURCE CATALOG D TO ONE.

AMEND THE DALLAS HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM STATEMENT TO PROVIDE EXPANDED ADMINISTRATION AND ADJUST AFFORDABILITY PERIODS TO ALIGN WITH CHANGES TO THE FEDERAL HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM REGULATIONS TO AMEND THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION PROGRAM STATEMENT TO FORMALIZE PROGRAM OPERATIONS THREE.

AMEND THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION PROGRAM STATEMENT TO FORMALIZE PROGRAM OPERATIONS.

FOUR AMEND THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM STATEMENT TO CLARIFY APPLICATION CRITERIA AND PROCESS.

FIVE REMOVE THE TITLE, CLEARING AND CLOUDED TITLE PREVENTION PROGRAM AS PROGRAM IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE, AND SIX MAKE GENERAL EDITS THROUGHOUT THE DAY TO CLEAN UP FORMATTING AND GRAMMAR.

YOU DO HAVE EIGHT INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. EIGHT INDIVIDUALS. MR. MAYOR.

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YOUR. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF THAT MICROPHONE, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DAVID ELLIS. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

I LIVE AT 935 CLEAR HURST DRIVE. I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON AGENDA.

AGENDA ITEM THREE, WHICH PERTAINS TO THE CITY STAFF'S RECOMMENDED PROGRAM STATEMENTS FOR THE HFC AND PFC AND TAX CREDIT.

TAX CREDIT POLICY REVISION. THE CITY STAFF AND THE HFC BOARDS HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THESE PROGRAM STATEMENTS FOR COMING ON TWO YEARS NOW.

THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE FOR CITY STAFF IS THIS WHY ARE WE EVEN DOING THIS? THE CITY STAFF HAS NEVER PRESENTED ANY EVIDENCE.

RESEARCH GENERALLY ACCEPTED STUDIES ASSERTING THAT HFC PROJECTS CONCENTRATES POVERTY ANYWHERE.

I HAVE NOT SEEN IT. FURTHERMORE, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY STATEMENTS THAT SAYS PFC PROJECTS IN HIGH POVERTY AREAS DE CONCENTRATES POVERTY.

I HAVE NOT SEEN IT. IS THIS ABOUT THE THREAT FROM HUD? THE WALKER CASE? THE HUD DOES NOT ADMINISTER THE LATECH PROGRAM.

STATE AGENCIES DO. THE WALKER CASE, WHICH LED TO THE CONSENT DECREE DECADES AGO, WAS ABOUT SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS, WHICH HUD ADMINISTRATES. THE 1600 PACIFIC CASE THAT LED TO THE VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT WAS ABOUT HOME AND CDBG FUNDS, WHICH HUD ADMINISTRATES. BUT THEY DON'T ADMINISTRATE LATECH PROGRAMS. THAT'S DONE AT THE STATE. IN FACT, FEDERAL TAX LAW INCENTIVIZES 4% LIHTC DEVELOPMENTS IN HIGH POVERTY AREAS WITH ADDITIONAL TAX CREDITS.

WHY? IT'S THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE PROGRAM. TO BRING HIGH QUALITY CLASS A APARTMENT, PROJECTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE MARKET THE MARKET CAN'T SUPPORT IT. THAT IS WHAT TECH IS INTENDED TO DO.

THE CITY STAFF HAS ALSO STATED THAT THIS IS INTENDED TO BRING MORE TO MORE UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE TO 50% AMI INCOME EARNERS OR BELOW, AND THEN PROCEEDED TO SUGGEST THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ACHIEVE THIS BY DEMANDING MIXED INCOME PROJECTS IN THE MOST POVERTY STRICKEN AREAS OF DALLAS AND TECH PROJECTS, AND THE MOST AFFLUENT AREAS OF DALLAS ANY EXPERT ON OF ANY KIND ON HOW THESE DEALS UNDERWRITE AND ARE PUT TOGETHER WILL SAY THIS IS ABSOLUTE NONSENSE.

THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY HAS ABSOLUTELY GIVEN NO SUPPORT FOR THIS POLICY WHATSOEVER. IT TURNS DEVELOPERS INTO UNICORN HUNTERS.

THE ONE ACCOMPLISHMENT ACCOMPLISHMENT THESE STATEMENTS WILL MAKE, HOWEVER, BEYOND BRINGING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO A HALT, IS IT WILL TAKE POWER AWAY FROM YOU, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS WILL BE DEVELOPED IN YOUR DISTRICT. IT WILL PUT POWER OF THAT DECISION THE DEVELOPERS WHO WILL ABSOLUTELY TURN THEIR BACK ON DALLAS. ONCE THESE STATEMENTS ARE APPROVED, THEY WILL STOP PRESENTING YOU WITH DEALS AND YOU WILL HAVE NO CHANCE TO SAY YES OR NO AND TO DECIDE HOW YOUR DISTRICTS ARE TRANSFORMED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, BRIAN BLANKENSHIP, THE THIRD.

PRIME BLANKENSHIP IS NOT PRESENT. ANTHONY PAGE.

THOMPSON IS QUICK.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JOHNSON AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ANTHONY PAGE, AND I RESIDE AT 3210 CARLISLE STREET IN DALLAS.

I SERVE AS SECRETARY AND A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

PRESIDENT ELLIS HAS ADDRESSED THE PROPOSED TWO THIRDS VOTE REQUIREMENT.

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL FOCUS EXCLUSIVELY ON THE GOVERNANCE QUESTION, SPECIFICALLY THE PROPOSAL TO APPOINT THE HOUSING DIRECTOR AS A NON-VOTING, EX-OFFICIO MEMBER OF THE HFC BOARD. LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING CLEARLY, THE BOARD STRONGLY SUPPORTS STAFF PARTICIPATION.

OUR BYLAWS ALREADY PROVIDE FOR A CITY LIAISON WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN ALL MEETINGS.

WE WELCOME STAFF INPUT IN POLICY ALIGNMENT. THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU IS NOT WHETHER STAFF SHOULD WEIGH IN.

THEY CAN. THEY SHOULD AND THEY CURRENTLY DO. THE ISSUE IS WHETHER CREATING A FORMAL SEAT ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTORY STRUCTURE OF THE CORPORATION. CHAPTER 394 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ESTABLISHES HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATIONS AS SEPARATE PUBLIC INSTRUMENTALITIES, WITH ALL CORPORATE POWERS VESTED IN THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

DIRECTORS ARE APPOINTED BY YOU, THE GOVERNING BODY.

THE STATUTE MAKES NO PROVISION FOR EX OFFICIO DIRECTORS.

THAT STRUCTURE REFLECTS A DELIBERATE LEGISLATIVE DESIGN TO CREATE AN ENTITY THAT OPERATES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY,

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THAT ACKNOWLEDGMENT REFLECTS A REALITY THAT WHILE MISSIONS ARE ALIGNED, GOVERNANCE INTERESTS MAY DIVERGE IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

IF THAT POTENTIAL DIVERGENCE EXISTS, EMBEDDING A CITY DEPARTMENT HEAD AS A FORMAL MEMBER OF THE BOARD INSTITUTIONALIZES THAT TENSION RATHER THAN MANAGING IT THROUGH CLEAR SEPARATION OF ROLES. CREATING AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER ALSO RAISES TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT CONSIDERATIONS.

THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS CAUTIONED THAT WHERE STATUTE FIXES THE COMPOSITION OF A GOVERNING BODY, THAT BODY MAY NOT EXPAND ITS MEMBERSHIP BY DESIGNATION ALONE.

EXECUTIVE SESSION ATTENDANCE IS LIMITED TO APPOINTED MEMBERS AND THOSE WHOSE PRESENCE IS NECESSARY TO THE MATTER BEING DISCUSSED.

GRANTING AUTOMATIC ATTENDANCE AT ALL EXECUTIVE SESSIONS TO A NON APPOINTED EX OFFICIO PARTICIPANT INTRODUCES AVOIDABLE LEGAL AMBIGUITY.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT EXCLUDING STAFF. IT IS ABOUT MAINTAINING CLEARLY DEFINED ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW, THEREBY PRESERVING STATUTORY CLARITY, FIDUCIARY INTEGRITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY WHILE CONTINUING TO COLLABORATE EFFECTIVELY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARIELLA ESTRADA.

HI. GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

MY NAME IS MARIELLA ESTRADA, AND I'M AT 1636 CEDAR HILL AVENUE.

I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE HRC AND SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE EFCC AND THE EFCC.

WE'RE A SMALL DEVELOPER BASED IN OAK CLIFF. WE'RE MINORITY OWNED, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ON VARIOUS HOUSING INITIATIVES TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND WE REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT MAINTAINING STRONG AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOOLS IN OUR CITY.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS AMENDMENT TO THE DALLAS HOUSING RESOURCE CATALOG WILL COMPLETELY AND SEVERELY UNDERCUT THE ABILITY TO DO SO, THE ABILITY TO FINANCE, TO BUILD AND TO PRESERVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE THESE PROGRAMS ACCOUNT FOR THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AVAILABLE NOW IN OUR CITY.

AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THESE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR OUR CONSTITUENTS, OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. SO I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO US TODAY, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. HUNT. NORA.

MAYOR. COUNCIL. MEMBERS. GOOD MORNING. I APPRECIATE THE ELONGATED DISCUSSION ON THIS HOUSING POLICY, PARTICULARLY THE PFC POLICY PROVISION. I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY THE THEME OF MEASURE TWICE, CUT ONCE.

AND JUST WANT TO COMMEND THE HOUSING STAFF WHO'S REALLY DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB CONTINUING TO PUSH WHAT'S BEEN A PROCESS WITH A LOT OF FRICTION.

AND THAW AND JAMES DESERVE COMMEMORATION FOR THAT.

AND SO TODAY I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PFC STATEMENT, AND IT'S MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS FROM WHERE IT STARTED.

AND THERE ARE REALLY TWO ITEMS THAT I THINK ARE STILL PROBLEMATIC.

ONE IS THE PUBLIC BENEFIT TEST. BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THE BOARD THE COUNCIL AND THE SECOND IS HOUSING DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY BLOCKADE PROJECTS IN A PROCESS THAT CURRENTLY HAS THREE STEPS OF APPROVAL.

SO FIRST, THE PUBLIC BENEFIT TEST. THERE'S NOW A CATCH 22 BEING PRESENTED.

I'VE HEARD A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBER RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY WANT TO SEE THESE PROJECTS BROUGHT INTO POVERTY CENSUS TRACTS TO HELP BRING MARKET RATE UNITS.

CURRENTLY, THE PUBLIC BENEFIT TEST IS BASED ON AFFORDABILITY BEING CREATED BETWEEN MARKET RATE AND INCOME RESTRICTED.

AND SO IF YOU'RE PUTTING THESE PROJECTS IN POVERTY CENSUS TRACTS, IT'S GOING TO BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO ECLIPSE THAT.

SO THE SOLUTION WOULD BE IN POVERTY CENSUS TRACTS WAIVING THAT REQUIREMENT.

NEXT IS THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY BLOCKADE PROJECTS.

FIRST, THE GEOGRAPHY PRIORITY. NOW IT ALLOWS FOR PROJECTS TO BE BUILT IN BOTH POVERTY AND NON POVERTY CENSUS TRACTS.

HOWEVER, CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT PFC DEFINITIONS PFC WORKFORCE HOUSING AND PFC AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

ONE IS TO BE USED IN POVERTY, THE OTHER IS NON POVERTY.

HIGH OPPORTUNITY. AREAS. BUT THERE'S NO DEFINITION CURRENTLY BEHIND THOSE TWO TERMS. NEXT APPLICATIONS COULD BE DENIED IF APPLICANTS HAVE PROJECTS UNDERWAY.

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AND THAT WAS THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. AND SO IT'S CLEARLY A VERY SHALLOW BENCH OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PFC PROGRAM.

AND I WOULD RECOMMEND REMOVING THAT BECAUSE YOU WOULD REMOVE THE DEVELOPMENT STOCK PIPELINE STOCK ALTOGETHER, POTENTIALLY NEXT TIFF BOARD WILL DETERMINE IF A PROJECT WILL BE REVIEWED BASED ON THE HHS MEETING EARLIER IN THE WEEK.

I BELIEVE THOR HAD CLARIFIED THIS IS ONLY FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT AND IMPROVED AND OPERATING POTENTIALLY BEING REMOVED.

I THINK THAT'S A TOTALLY REASONABLE THING TO DO, BUT IT DOESN'T CURRENTLY READ THAT WAY.

IT'S JUST ANYTHING IN A TIFF. TIFF DISTRICT PERIOD.

FINALLY, PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. PFC PROVIDES A GREAT INCENTIVE FOR BROWNFIELD SITES TO CLEAN UP BROWNFIELD SITES.

SO PUSH THE CLEAN, CLEAN ENVIRONMENTAL TO THE END.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BARRETT. LINDBERG. BARRETT LINDBERG IS NOT PRESENT.

RAUL ESTRADA. RAUL ESTRADA IS NOT PRESENT. MARCY HELFAND.

MARCY HELFAND IS NOT PRESENT. MR. MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ALSO, THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, BLACKMON AND WEST.

IS THERE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

WHO PULLED IT? WHO'S WE WON'T REMEMBER? BLACKMON AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

EITHER OF YOU WANT TO GO? MAYOR, I HAVE A MOTION.

OKAY. WHAT IS IT? I MOVE TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION TO CONSIDER SEPARATELY THE DALLAS HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM STATEMENT, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER ONE. SECOND. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

NOT DEBATABLE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. QUESTIONS DIVIDED. WE'LL TAKE UP.

WHICH PART ARE WE GOING TO TAKE UP FIRST? ALL RIGHT.

ITEM ONE. WHOEVER PULLED IT CHAIRMAN WEST OR MISS BLACKMON, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS FIRST? YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR FIVE MINUTES, MR. WEST. AND ON THE DIVIDED QUESTION, ITEM ONE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

ON THE DIVIDED QUESTION, ARE WE ABLE TO ON THIS ONE TO TALK ABOUT THE DALLAS HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM? I'M LOOKING AT CITY ATTORNEY OR MAYOR. THE ANSWER IS YES.

OKAY. AND THAT'S IT. RIGHT. OF THE OF THE VARIOUS THAT THE ANSWER IS YES TO THAT TOO.

SO I MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE JUST BECAUSE PROCEDURALLY I WAS TOLD BY CITY ATTORNEY WE HAD TO DO THAT.

BUT I CERTAINLY SUPPORT DIVIDING. AND THEN WHAT I UNDERSTAND WILL PROBABLY BE THE NEXT ACTION.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE DALLAS HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

IF WE CAN GET STAFF UP HERE, PLEASE. WHAT DID I SAY? HOUSING HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT FUNCTIONS IN THE OVERALL D HAP PROCESS ARE CURRENTLY BEING OUTSOURCED OR WILL BE OUTSOURCED AND WHAT WILL REMAIN IN-HOUSE IN THE CITY? THANK YOU. THOR ERICKSON, DIRECTOR, OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. WE'RE OUTSOURCING ALL FUNCTIONS OF THAT PROGRAM, FROM APPLICATION INTAKE TO LOAN CLOSING.

OKAY. IN THE PAST, WHAT HAS BEEN THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF DAYS NEEDED TO PROCESS A DAP PROGRAM APPLICATION FROM RECEIPT OF THE APPLICATION TO THE AWARD? IT CAN TAKE MULTIPLE MONTHS DEPENDING ON APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMPLETE.

LENDER COMPLETE APPLICATION FROM THE TIME A COMPLETE LENDER APPLICATION TO CLOSING.

WE'RE AVERAGING RIGHT AROUND 40 DAYS. WE'LL OUTSOURCING REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DAYS TO PROCESS APPLICATIONS AND MAKE THE AWARDS.

YES. GREAT. HOW MUCH DO YOU ANTICIPATE WE EXPECT THE LOANS TO BE CLOSED FROM TIME OF COMPLETE LENDER APPLICATION TO CLOSING TO BE LESS THAN 30 DAYS, WHICH WILL FIT IN A NORMAL TIME FRAME OF CLOSING WITH HOME BUYER CASES.

SO YOUR PLAN IS TO BUILD MORE EFFICIENCIES INTO THE DAP PROGRAM, RIGHT? YES, SIR. GREAT. WILL PROCESSING TIME GUARANTEES BE REQUIRED OF THE SELECTED VENDOR? YES, IT'S PART OF OUR PERFORMANCE TRACKING. WE'LL BE UPDATING THAT EVERY MONTH AND OUR PERFORMANCE REPORTS WITH THIS CONTRACT, AND ENSURE THAT ANY ISSUES OF INSTANCES WHERE WE NEED TO PROVIDE EXTRA TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WILL BE HANDLED IMMEDIATELY.

GREAT. AND WHAT STEPS HAVE YOU TAKEN TO ADDRESS THE EFFICIENCIES OF THE REMAINING IN-HOUSE PROGRAMS? THE STUFF YOU'RE KEEPING RELATED TO THIS, THIS PROGRAM? WE CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR WAYS OF EFFICIENCY. WE'VE RECENTLY OUTSOURCED OUR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER TO DETERMINE WHAT WE'RE VERY WELL VERSED AT, TO ADMINISTER DIRECTLY, OR WHAT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO CONSIDER LOOKING FOR EFFICIENCIES AND OUTSOURCING.

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PARTS OF THE APPLICATIONS HAVE TO GO THROUGH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF REVIEWING THAT, BUT WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTITY THAT WE STAND THIS UP WITH WILL HAVE THE PRE-APPROVED CONTRACT TEMPLATES THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER. DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT CUTTING BACK ON THE THE ATTORNEY REVIEW TIME ON THIS, OR WILL IT BE WILL IT STILL NEED TO GO TO CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, OR WILL IT TOTALLY BE HANDLED OUTSIDE? I THINK WE WILL. WE'LL HAVE A FORUM THAT WILL BE PRE APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND SO WE HAVE THAT WITH OTHER CONTRACTS AS WELL.

OUTSTANDING. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY NEIGHBOR WHO DID MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF IT.

ALTHOUGH I KNOW HE DID NOT WANT TO ACTUALLY APPROVE ALL OF IT.

BUT THERE WAS A PARLIAMENTARY ISSUE. AND THIS IS WHERE MAYBE THE PUBLIC DOESN'T ALWAYS SEE THE COOPERATION THAT HAPPENS ON THE COUNCIL.

SO I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. EVEN WITH THE PIN I'M WEARING, HE STILL DID THAT FOR ME.

SO I SAY THANK YOU. I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THERE'S BEEN A ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

BUT IT'S NOT COMPLETE, AND WE NEED TO BE DOING.

EXCELLENT WORK. WE NEED TO BE DOING THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPROVE OUR PROCESS, IMPROVE OUR GOVERNANCE.

AND SO WE NEED MORE TIME AND WE NEED MORE TIME AT THE COMMITTEE.

THE CITY MANAGER HAS SCHEDULED AN APRIL 1ST DATE FOR THE REMAINING ITEMS. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE NEXT MOTION.

BUT FOR THE HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE BECOME FIRST TIME HOMEOWNERS IN DALLAS.

THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE DON'T FALL OUT.

AND LATER IN THE AGENDA, THERE'LL BE AN ITEM TO ACTUALLY AWARD THE CONTRACT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WEST WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THOR.

SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL MOVE TO, TO LET THIS PART OF THE PROGRAM.

GO FORWARD. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST AGAIN COMMEND THE KUMBAYA MOMENT THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT HERE.

FIRST AND FOREMOST. BUT SECONDLY, AGAIN, TO THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, AGAIN, ONE ACKNOWLEDGING AND ACCEPTING THE NEED TO DO THIS.

WE'VE HAD MANY APPLICANTS. I KNOW SOME WHO'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND THEY GET DELAYED OR DENIED ACCESS TO GETTING INTO THE HOME BECAUSE OF THE PROCESSING, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY A HIT AGAINST STAFF.

IT'S JUST UNDERSTANDING CAPACITY VERSUS THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE IN A MORE EFFICIENT WAY.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU TO STAFF. THANK YOU TO CHAIR WEST FOR FOR LEADING THIS EFFORT.

AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING SETTING SEPARATING THIS ITEM SO THAT WE CAN MOVE MORE EFFICIENTLY IN GETTING PEOPLE INTO NEW HOMES.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE FIRST PORTION OF THE DIVIDED QUESTION ON AGENDA ITEM THREE, SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. MAY I BE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION? ANOTHER ONE? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. I MOVE TO DEFER ITEMS TWO THROUGH SIX UNTIL AFTER THEY.

I'M SORRY. TO DATE, CERTAIN OF MAY 27TH. AGENDA MEETING.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. SO NOW WE ARE ON A MOTION TO DEFER THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE AGENDA.

ITEM THREE. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT MOTION FIRST? THANK YOU. DID YOU MADE IT? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR MOTION TO DEFER. THANK YOU.

SO AS I WAS SAYING, WE HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION AT COUNCIL.

FRANKLY, THERE WERE, I BELIEVE, TEN COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE.

THIS COUNCIL'S JOB INCLUDES A LOT OF DIFFERENT TOPICS, BUT HOUSING IS FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR CITY, AND I LOVE THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A SAY.

BUT GIVEN OUR COMMITTEE MEETINGS ARE GENERALLY SCHEDULED FOR TWO HOURS, THERE'S JUST NOT BEEN ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY GET TO THE LEVEL THAT EVERYBODY CAN HAVE THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AS WELL AS GIVE INPUT.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S WORTH TAKING THE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT.

SO MY HOPE IS TO HAVE THIS BACK ON THE HOUSING COMMITTEE'S AGENDA, THEN HAVE THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING.

AND THEN IF IT'S NECESSARY, THIS DEFERRAL TO THE MAY 27TH DATE WILL ALLOW US TO THEN BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE, IF THAT IS NECESSARY, BEFORE IT'S APPROVED ON THE 27TH.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE. THERE'LL BE ESSENTIALLY THREE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION IF NECESSARY.

THANK YOU. YEAH. MISS BLACKMON RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. IN YOUR MOTION, IS IT GOING?

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IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT, YOU CAN YOU CAN GO AGAINST. YEAH. YOU CAN HAVE MINE. SO THE, THE MOTION IS TO DEFER THE ITEM TO BE CONSIDERED AGAIN MAY 27TH.

THERE'S A FULL COUNCIL AGENDA SCHEDULED BRIEFING I'M TOLD, BY STAFF FOR APRIL 1ST.

I THINK THERE'S NO INTENT FOR IT TO BE APRIL FOOL'S DAY.

BUT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO PUT IT ON THE HOUSING COMMITTEE IN MARCH SO THAT THERE CAN BE ADDITIONAL COMMITTEE CONVERSATION BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING. THERE'S OTHER ITEMS ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR MARCH, THOUGH, SO.

GOT IT. OKAY, SO BACK TO MY MADAM, MADAM CITY MANAGER, APRIL 1ST.

THIS WILL COME BACK TO A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING BEFORE THE MAY 27TH VOTE.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE NEED TO. THERE WAS 11 PEOPLE THERE.

AND AND GIVEN THE THE AMOUNT OF FOLKS THAT WERE THERE, I THINK A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING VERSUS US GOING TO COMMITTEE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKE YOU KNOW, THAT SOMETIMES.

MAKE OR NOT MAKE. THEN I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO COME HERE.

AND SO IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE SCHEDULE FOR APRIL 1ST.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DATA OUT THERE ABOUT THE CURRENT STATE OF HOUSING, AND WE WANTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT. AND THEN AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WAS ALSO CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED NEW HOUSING FRAMEWORK THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. THAT WE ALSO WANTED TO HAVE A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING ON THAT.

SO IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A PART OF THAT APRIL 1ST, WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO IT.

BUT I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO GO, WE WILL BE READY.

THAT'S THE DIRECTION I WOULD LIKE TO GO. BUT DO I NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO THE MOTION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COMES HERE ON APRIL 1ST? IF SO, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT FOR A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING AFTER THE COMMITTEE DOES WORK IN MARCH TO COME FOR APRIL 1ST, AND I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. GO AHEAD. TAMMY. ME.

MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY CLARIFY THIS, THIS ITEM BELONGS TO COUNCIL.

SO UNLESS IT'S COMMITTED OR REFERRED BACK TO COMMITTEE, THE COMMITTEE DOES NO FURTHER WORK.

THE QUESTION BELONGS TO THE BODY NOW. OKAY, SO IT CAN'T EVEN GO BACK IN MARCH.

NOT UNLESS THERE'S A COMMIT OR REFER. SO BECAUSE I WOULD.

OKAY. SO THEN AS IT STANDS, IT IS NOT GOING BACK TO COMMITTEE AS THE MOTION STANDS.

YES. AS THE MOTION ON THE TABLE. NO MORE COMMITTEE WORK.

IT'S AT THE BODY BELONGS. THE QUESTION BELONGS TO THE.

OKAY, SO IT WOULD COME BACK APRIL 1ST REGARDLESS UNLESS THERE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION.

OKAY. SO IT NEEDS TO STAY AT HOLD ON. I THINK IT NEEDS TO STAY AT FULL COUNCIL, GIVEN THAT THERE WAS 11 FOLKS ALREADY IN THE ROOM BEFORE THE LONG EIGHT HOUR MEETING THAT AFTERNOON ON CITY HALL.

SO PEOPLE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS. AND AS SEEN THAT WE HAD EIGHT SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND I'VE HAD MY OWN PFC, HFC MEETING WITH ME INDIVIDUALLY ON THAT. THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS AT COUNCIL, SO I THINK IT SHOULD STAY AT COUNCIL.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID IT WILL REMAIN HERE, AND THE CITY MANAGER HAS AGREED FOR APRIL 1ST.

THANK YOU. STATE DEPARTMENT INQUIRY. BUT AT THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING ON APRIL 1ST, THE COUNCIL COULD THEN REFER IT BACK TO COMMITTEE.

IF THERE'S AN ITEM THAT NEEDS SOME FURTHER WORK.

I DON'T THINK THEY CAN BECAUSE YOU'RE HOLDING THE ITEM.

THE ACTION ITEM UNTIL THE 27TH. YOU'RE HOLDING IT AT COUNCIL UNTIL THE 27TH OF MAY.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PARLIAMENTARY RULING THAT IF IT GOES TO FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING APRIL 1ST, THAT IT COULD THEN BE ALSO SENT BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE IT WAS THEN BROUGHT FOR A VOTE.

MAY 27TH. CAN YOU GIVE ME A SECOND TO CONFER WITH MY BOOK? ALL RIGHT. WE'LL STAND AT EASE FOR JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES WHILE SHE LOOKS THAT ANSWER UP.

THE FIRST QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE BACK, I THINK, WITH A RESPONSE FROM OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO APRIL 1ST IS A BRIEFING DAY.

SO YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE AN ACTION TO COMMIT OR REFER ON THE BRIEFING DAY.

AND SO IF YOU DO WANT THE COMMITTEE TO HAVE ANY INPUT ON IT BEFORE EITHER APRIL 1ST OR MAY 27TH, YOU WILL HAVE TO DO COMMIT IT NOW, AND MAYBE HAVE IT COME BACK THROUGH TO COUNCIL ON THAT DATE.

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SO. SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION THEN TO REFER IT BACK TO COMMITTEE.

AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL ASK FOR THE YOU. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO ASK FOR THE BRIEFING.

CORRECT. BECAUSE THAT'S AT THE MANAGER'S PREROGATIVE.

THE COUNCIL CANNOT CONSIDER THE SAME QUESTION WHILE IT'S AT COMMITTEE.

SO IT HAS TO BE AT ONE PLACE OR THE OTHER. OKAY, WELL, THEN I WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND INSTEAD MOVE THIS ITEM TO GO BACK TO COMMITTEE.

AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT MOTION. WELL, WE NEED TO WE'D HAVE TO VOTE ON YOU WITHDRAWING IT.

OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST AMEND IT? YOU WANT TO AMEND YOUR MOTION? CHANGE IT TO AMENDED? YES. OKAY, ALRIGHT. IS THERE A PAUL? REALLY SECONDED THAT. SO YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES NOW ON YOUR AMENDED MOTION.

THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A VERY DETAILED POLICY AND IT NEEDS VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION.

AND NOT THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD VERY LONG COUNSEL BRIEFINGS, BUT I DO THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY COMMITTEE WORK.

AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN GET TO A CERTAIN PATH AT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND THEN COME TO THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING, I THINK WE SHOULD AND LEAVE OPEN THE OPTION FOR THAT, IF IT TURNS OUT WE DON'T NEED IT, THEN REALLY THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER THINGS FOR THE AGENDA.

BUT WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS NOT HAVING ENOUGH TIME.

AND GIVEN THE INTEREST LEVEL, WHICH I WELCOME, COMPLETELY WELCOME.

I REALLY THINK THIS NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR THE DEEPER DIVE.

MR. BAZALDUA YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. NOW WE'RE ON THIS AMENDED MOTION TO DEFER OR TO SEND TO REMAND BACK TO COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

I'M ACTUALLY REALLY TAKEN BACK. WE HAD A PRETTY CLEAR CONSENSUS AND DIRECTION, I BELIEVE, EVEN INCLUDED IN THE MOTION LANGUAGE AT HOUSING COMMITTEE, THAT THIS WOULD BE SEEN AT FULL COUNCIL.

WE WE DISCUSSED THE SEPARATION OF THE QUESTION.

ET-CETERA TO, TO ADDRESS IT. I THINK THAT KNOWING THAT THERE IS THE DEMAND, IF YOU WILL, OR THE DESIRE FOR THAT MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION, WE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS MOST IT WAS IT WAS THE SMARTEST DECISION FOR IT TO COME BACK TO A FULL COUNCIL. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT EVEN WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT COMMITTEE.

AND I'M A LITTLE BIT TAKEN BACK AT THE FACT THAT THINGS WOULD CHANGE, IN JUST 48 HOURS.

I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TO NOTE THAT, AS YOU MENTIONED, MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT POLICY DISCUSSION WHICH PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PRIORITY IN PRECEDENT OVER SOME OF THE WISH LIST AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE PRIORITIZED AND SAW PRIOR TO ACTUALLY GETTING INTO THE POLICY WORK.

SO IF WE AREN'T GOING TO HAVE I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF THIS IS GERMANE.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY GERMANE TO MY REASONING. YES.

AGENDA. I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE LATITUDE, BUT, YOU KNOW, TRY TO HELP ME OUT HERE.

YES, SIR. I DON'T WANT THIS TO GET TOO CONTENTIOUS. NO, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE CONTENTIOUS EITHER. I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE TO. WE CAN'T SAY WE CAN'T TALK OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF OUR MOUTH TO THE PUBLIC. WE CAN'T TALK TO THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE SHOWN UP HERE AND HAVE CONTINUED TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS, AND ACT AS IF WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE SOMETHING WHEN WE'VE GIVEN ACTION IN THE PAST THAT HAS, IN FACT CONTRADICTED THAT NOTION. WE HAVE WE HAVE ACTIVELY PARTICIPATED IN ALLOWING FOR A MISMANAGEMENT OF OUR AGENDAS, WHICH HAS LED TO US NOT BEING ABLE TO TAKE UP WHAT SHOULD BE A MORE PERTINENT ISSUE ON THESE AGENDAS.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE MEMBERS, AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE MOTION LANGUAGE THAT THIS WOULD GO TO A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING INSTEAD OF BACK TO COMMITTEE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WITHIN 48 HOURS, ONE MEMBER CAN UNILATERALLY DECIDE DIFFERENTLY WHEN THERE WAS A CONSENSUS AROUND THE BODY.

SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING. GOING BACK TO COMMITTEE.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH, AND WE'VE DONE ENOUGH WORK AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL FOR US TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION AT A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS BLAIR, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

I AM GOING TO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

WE DID HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION. WE DO SEE I DO SEE THAT THERE IS A LOT OF ATTENTION HERE.

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AND AND I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT OUR LAST TIME THAT WE WERE WE MET THIS WEEK.

I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE AS MANY OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THIS COMMITTEE MEETING, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE A HARD TIME AT TIMES GETTING A MEETING QUORUM. AND AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT AGAINST HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS.

I'M SAYING THAT AGAINST ALL OF US AS A COMMITTEE.

IF THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET PRIORITY TO DISCUSS HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS IS HERE, SHAME ON US, NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A TASK TO DO IN COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO COMPLETE.

AGAIN, SHAME ON US AS A COMMITTEE. AND I, I KNOW THE HARD WORK THAT CHAIR MENDELSON IS DOING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. BUT HERE'S THE DEAL, GUYS.

WE HAVE TO BE COMMITTED. AND IN THAT COMMITMENT, WE HAVE TO SHOW UP AND WE HAVE TO DO THE WORK.

AND IF THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET TO DO THE WORK IS NOT BECAUSE I WANTED TO COME OUT OF COMMITTEE, BUT TO DO COMMITTEE WORK AT COUNCIL, THEN WE NEED TO DO COMMITTEE WORK AT COUNCIL.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP AND DO WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AS A COMMITTEE, AS A COMMITTEE BODY. SO THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I AM MOVING THIS WAY.

AND, AND AND NOT ASKING THAT IT GO BACK TO COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU. MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THIS IS THIS IS REALLY A COMPLICATED ISSUE.

FOLKS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HFC'S THE PFCS. THESE ARE WE'RE CREATING POLICIES.

WE'RE CREATING STRUCTURES FOR FOR THE OPERATION OF THESE OF THESE ENTITIES.

AND THIS ISN'T THESE ARE THESE ARE COMPLICATED ISSUES.

WHEN I HEARD SOME OF THE SPEAKERS TODAY INDICATE THAT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE PROPOSED IN THESE, IN THESE DOCUMENTS MAY BE IN VIOLATION OF SOME STATE STATUTES THAT THEY MAY NOT BE PROPERLY WRITTEN.

THAT CONCERNS ME. AND I THINK THAT TO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMITTEE MEETING IN A CITY COUNCIL SITUATION IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

WE NEED TO SIT, GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, LET IT LET THEM DO THEIR WORK WITH THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THEY HAVE.

THIS IS THIS IS REALLY TECHNICAL STUFF, AND AND I AND IT'S IMPORTANT STUFF.

AND IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. RIGHT. AND THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE IN TAKING THE TIME TO HANDLE THIS IN A, IN A PROPER SETTING. AND I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE ALLOCATES SUFFICIENT TIME SO THAT THIS CAN BE VETTED IN A PROPER MANNER, AND THAT CAN BE REALLY PREPARED IN ADVANCE.

THEN WE'VE GOT SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AGAIN, THERE'S NO RUSH TO, TO DO THIS WITHOUT HAVING PROPER PREPARATION.

AND I THINK THE PROPER PREPARATION IS IN THE HOUSING COMMITTEE VENUE.

SO THAT I WOULD I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT THIS IS THE PROPER WAY TO BAKE THIS PIE IF WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S VALUABLE FOR US TO CONSIDER. THANK YOU. MISS BLACKMON, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

YES. THANK YOU. SO HOW IS STAFF STILL IN THE OFFICE? IN THE OFFICE? IN THE CHAMBERS. MY MY QUESTION AROUND THIS IS, HAS IT BEEN ON THE AGENDA? I MEAN, LAST WEEK WASN'T THE FIRST TIME IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.

IS THAT CORRECT? OR HOW MANY HOW MANY TIMES HAS IT BEEN AND HOW MANY HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN IN THE WORKS? SURE. OUR PARDON ME, OUR FIRST BRIEFING ON THIS WAS IN OCTOBER OF 2024.

WE BROUGHT IT TO COMMITTEE A COUPLE OTHER TIMES SINCE THEN, THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD IN OCTOBER.

CONVERSATION 25 OF 25. YES, MA'AM. AND THEN THE QUESTION ASKED US TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL TRAINING VIDEOS, WHICH WE PRODUCED AND RELEASED IN DECEMBER ON BOTH THE HFC AND PFC.

AND THEN WE PREPARED THE ADDITIONAL BRIEFING ITEM WITH SOME CHANGES INCORPORATING FROM ALL THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED.

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SO IT'S BEEN AT COMMITTEE LEVEL FOR A BIT. YES.

AND MR. ROTH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A COMMITTEE COMMUNITY PUBLIC MEETING, WHETHER WE GO BACK TO COMMITTEE OR STAY HERE.

SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PUBLIC IN DISCUSSING THAT, DISCUSSING THIS, I MEAN, AND I'VE, I'VE WATCHED HOUSING, I DON'T ATTEND LEVEL HOUSING.

AND HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU ALL MET THIS YEAR? I MEAN, I THINK THERE IS SOME THERE ARE SOME QUORUM BREAKS.

AND SO HOUSING IS HAVING A PROBLEM HAVING A CONSISTENT MEETING SCHEDULE OR IT'S SCHEDULED AND THEN SOME FOLKS LEAVE AND SOME FOLKS GET, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S LIKE IT'S TIME THAT WE NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS ON THIS.

DON'T YOU AGREE? MAKING DECISIONS. I'LL BE PREPARED FOR COUNCIL BRIEFINGS WHEN THEY'RE SCHEDULED.

OKAY. SO HOW MANY? SO HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU MET SINCE WE CAME BACK AFTER BREAK? OCTOBER. DECEMBER. I KNOW WE'VE HAD SPECIAL CALLED.

IT'S BEEN. OKAY. FOUR TIMES. DO YOU WANT TO SAY FOUR TIMES? I'M CONFIRMING I DON'T HAVE ALL THE DATES IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'VE HAD HAD A A MONTHLY MEETING.

SOME HAVE HAD TO BE RESCHEDULED. WE HAD AN INCLEMENT WEATHER BREAK. WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER THINGS COME IN THAT HAD TO HAVE SOME RESCHEDULED MEETINGS, BUT WE HAVE HAD REGULAR MEETINGS. OKAY. AND SO IF YOU TAKE IT BACK TO COMMITTEE OR YOU TAKE IT, BRING IT TO COUNCIL, YOU'RE GOING TO BE READY TO HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION AROUND IT.

YES, YES. OKAY. AND IN APRIL 1ST WOULD BE THE NEAREST WE COULD GET TO IT.

THAT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY. BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE ALSO WANTED TO TO THE OTHER PIECES THAT WERE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED BY THE COUNCIL.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS NEW HOUSING PATHWAY FRAMEWORK, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED THAT THAT BE A FULL CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING.

SO IT WOULD BE A PART OF THAT. YES, MA'AM. SO IT MAKES SENSE TO LOOK AT IT AS A PACKAGE.

YES, MA'AM. IT'S A TOTALITY. OKAY. YOU WERE AT THAT MEETING ON MONDAY, RIGHT? YES. WAS THERE ABOUT 11 COUNCIL MEMBERS THERE? I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. BECAUSE I KNEW WE HAD A QUORUM OF COUNCIL. MORE PEOPLE KEPT COMING IN. YES. YEAH.

AND TO TALK ABOUT THIS ITEM, BECAUSE IT IS SO AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED THAT WE WANTED TO BRING IT TO A FULL COUNCIL MEETING.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE CONSENSUS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

LET'S SEE. I'M GOING TO GO TO CHAIRMAN GRACEY FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SO WE CAN GET PAST ALL OF THIS. WE SAID THIS IN THE MEETING.

WE SAID IN THE HOUSING MEETING THAT WE WOULD BRING THIS BACK TO FULL COUNCIL.

WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION, AND IT WAS A ROBUST DISCUSSION.

YOU ALL ARE RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, IT UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS AT THE TOWARDS THE END OF THE AGENDA, SO WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO GET INTO ALL OF THE DISCUSSION. AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE. THIS IS THAT TYPE OF STUFF THAT CREATES DELAYS AND IT'S UNNECESSARY ACROSS THE BOARD. IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO MOVE SO WE CAN CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION, CLEARLY THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS.

THESE THE INDUSTRY FOLKS AREN'T NECESSARILY SETTLED YET.

WE'RE CLEARLY NOT SETTLED YET. SO I THINK THIS DOES MERIT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.

REGARDLESS OF HOW, WHY, WHEN, WHERE OR WHO. NONE OF THAT MATTERS.

WHAT MATTERS IS THIS MERITS WARRANTS A FURTHER DISCUSSION.

AND I THINK THE BEST WAY THAT WE CAN GET THIS DISCUSSION TOGETHER, ALTHOUGH EVERYONE SHOWED UP AT THE COMMITTEES AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FAIRLY TO SPEAK AND HAVE THEIR SAY ON IT, WE RAN OUT OF TIME. AND I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD EITHER REALLY DESERVE THE ATTENTION OF THE FULL COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH IT, HAVE PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS AND THEN MOVE FORWARD TO SOME NEXT DECISIONS.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH ON WHERE IT SHOULD BE AND ALL OF THAT. THAT IS AN UTTER WASTE OF TIME.

AND I'M TIRED OF THIS, Y'ALL. CAN WE PLEASE DO BETTER? SO I'M SAYING LET'S MOVE IT TO COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN GET GOING AND KEEP THIS CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION, THIS POLICY DISCUSSION, NOT THIS BICKERING AND DEBATING STUFF, BUT POLICY DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AND MOVE FORWARD.

SO MY POSITION IS TO MOVE THIS TO COUNCIL FOR FULL DISCUSSION AND EVENTUALLY TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR A DECISION.

I THINK THAT IS THE RIGHT THING. WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN HOUSING.

THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP FULL COUNCIL, HAVE SPEAKERS COME IN AND SPEAK ON IT IF THEY WANT TO, AS WELL AS MAKE DECISIONS AND MOVE FORWARD. SO FOR THAT REASON, CAN WE CALL THE QUESTION YES, YOU CAN ALWAYS MAKE THAT MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION. THE ITEM THAT'S ON THE FLOOR, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE IS THE MOTION. THE AMENDED MOTION TO DEFER.

SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. AND THERE'S NO DEBATE ON THAT.

IT'S TWO THIRDS THRESHOLD. RECORD VOTE PLEASE.

IT'S A TWO THIRDS VOTE THRESHOLD AND A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

NO. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. NO. I'M SORRY.

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COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ.

NO. COUNCILMEMBER CADENA. NO. COUNCILMEMBER. BAZALDUA.

YES. COUNCILMEMBER. BLAIR. DOES YES MEAN GO BACK TO COUNT? GO BACK TO COMMITTEE? WE DON'T. WE CAN'T DO THAT.

OH, CALL THE QUESTION. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ROTH. THIS IS TO CALL THE QUESTION, RIGHT? YES.

GUYS, WE DON'T HAVE DISCUSSIONS DURING THE VOTES. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. COUNCIL MEMBER.

SORRY. THAT WAS NO, NO. MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

WILLIS. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO. MAYOR JOHNSON.

NO. WITH SEVEN VOTING IN FAVOR. AYE. OPPOSED THE MOTION.

THE CALL FAILS, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, SO WE'RE STILL ON THE AMENDED MOTION TO DEFER ITEMS TWO THROUGH SIX ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.

AND WE'LL TAKE UP CHAIRWOMAN STEWART FOR FIVE MINUTES.

GO AHEAD. HAVE AT IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON.

WHAT? I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CHAIR MENDELSOHN A FEW QUESTIONS.

IF SHE WAS OPEN TO THAT, IF SHE'LL RESPOND. SHE CAN HAVE AT.

IT DEPENDS ON THE QUESTION. I THINK THIS IS A FRIENDLY QUESTION.

THESE ARE FRIENDLY QUESTIONS. COULD YOU JUST DESCRIBE FOR US WHAT YOU SEE ACCOMPLISHING AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL? CAN YOU JUST GIVE US SOME UNDERSTANDING WHY IT NEEDS TO GO TO COMMITTEE BEFORE IT WOULD WE WOULD HAVE IT BRIEFED HERE AT FULL COUNCIL? YES. SO AS YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS MEANT THAT OUR FIRST COMMITTEE MEETINGS WERE IN OCTOBER.

THIS WAS A PRIORITY ITEM AND PUT ON THERE THE COMMITTEES ACTUALLY MET THE SAME NUMBER AS YOUR COMMITTEE OF PARKS AND TRAILS.

SO EVEN WITH ISSUES WITH ATTENDANCE OF SOME MEMBERS, THE COMMITTEE HAS MET AND HAD FULL COUNCIL FULL COMMITTEE BRIEFINGS. THE SAME EXACT NUMBER BECAUSE I'VE CALLED MULTIPLE SPECIAL SESSIONS.

SO WITH THAT, WHAT WE DISCOVERED WHEN WE BRIEFED IT IN OCTOBER WAS THAT MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, OF WHICH THE COMMITTEE HAS MULTIPLE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, WERE NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE PFC AND HFC'S WORK.

AND THAT INCLUDES SOME RETURNING COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAD NOT SERVED ON HOUSING PREVIOUSLY.

AND SO THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MECHANICS AND HOW THOSE THINGS HAPPENED.

AND SO WE ASKED FOR A SPECIAL BRIEFING JUST ABOUT HOW DOES IT ALL WORK AND INSTRUCTIONAL ONE.

AND IN THE END, THERE IS DIFFICULTY WITH SETTING UP THOSE MEETINGS SO THAT PEOPLE COULD FREELY ASK QUESTIONS.

AND SO WE ASKED FOR THERE TO BE A VIDEO PRODUCED WHERE ANYBODY, INCLUDING THE PUBLIC, COULD WATCH THEM AND LEARN.

HOW DOES PFC WORK? HOW DOES HFC WORK? AND THAT TOOK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND SO THEN IT JUST CAME BACK. AND AGAIN, THE LEVEL OF QUESTION WAS VERY DETAILED AND TIME CONSUMING.

SO THE COMMITTEE HAS MORE THAN ONE CHARGE. IT'S JUST NOT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

IT IS HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS. AND WE HAVE A HOMELESSNESS CRISIS, AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND OUR CITY NEEDS TO BE EXPLORING NEW WAYS TO EVALUATE AND OFFER SERVICES TO THE HOMELESS.

IT IS MY TOP PRIORITY. SO YES, THAT WILL COME FIRST IN THE AGENDA WHILE I'M CHAIR.

YOU ARE WELCOME TO SOLICIT THE MAYOR TO ASK ME TO NOT BE CHAIR.

I THINK I'M THE FIRST COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE HISTORY OF DALLAS TO HAVE TWO STANDING COMMITTEE CHAIRMANSHIPS, SO FEEL FREE. GO FOR IT. BUT I AM GOING TO PUT HOMELESSNESS FIRST.

AND THIS NEEDS MORE WORK THAN I THINK IS APPROPRIATE FOR A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING.

THERE'S NOT BEEN SOME IMMEDIATE CHANGE IN THE LAST 48 HOURS.

I'M THE PERSON THAT CALLED FOR THIS TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL AT THIS HORSESHOE, SAYING THERE'S BEEN A SHIFT IN WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK.

I TOTALLY THINK IT NEEDS TO GO TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

ALL MY EMOTION DOES IS SAY LET IT GO TO COMMITTEE FIRST BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL, WHICH I THINK WILL SAVE US A LOT OF TIME AND ALLOW THE DEPTH THAT IS NECESSARY TO COME UP WITH GOOD POLICY CHANGES AND DEBATE SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THE DEVELOPERS HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT IDEA THAN WHAT OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF IS PROPOSING.

THERE'S CONFLICT THERE. OKAY, SO THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WAS YOU IT CAME TO YOUR COMMITTEE IN OCTOBER,

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SO OKAY. IT MAY HAVE BEEN ON AN AGENDA OF ANOTHER MEETING THAT DID NOT GO FORWARD.

IT DIDN'T MAKE IT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, I THINK I FOLLOWED THE SEQUENCE.

AND SO YOU WOULD LIKE. AND WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS COMMITTEE MEETING IN MARCH SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THE APRIL BRIEFING SO THERE WOULD BE SO THERE WOULD BE NO DELAYS, YOU CAN ASSURE NO DELAY WITH THE APRIL. THIS HAS NO DELAY.

THIS KEEPS THE MARCH KEEPS IT GOING TO THE COMMITTEE IN MARCH AND THEN TO FULL COUNCIL APRIL.

THERE'S REALLY THE QUESTION OF THE MOTION IS SIMPLY SHOULD IT GO TO COMMITTEE BEFORE IT COMES TO FULL COUNCIL AGAIN IN APRIL? THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE, EXCEPT THE COMMITTEE GETS ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE FOR DISCUSSION, FOR BRIEFING. OKAY. AND THEN IT WILL COME. OKAY.

I THINK MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON.

ALL RIGHT, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. WELL, ALL COMMITTEES ARE ADVISORY.

WE KNOW THAT. AND THE POINT OF THIS IS TO ALLOW THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO GET THE DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF THE MECHANICS AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF A CHANGE FROM THIS TO THAT OR NO CHANGE. BUT WITHOUT THAT DEEPER UNDERSTANDING, I FEAR WE'LL END UP PASSING SOMETHING THAT WON'T BE OUR BEST POLICY. AND I THINK WE SPEND SO MUCH TIME IN THIS BUILDING DOING THIS WORK THAT WE SHOULD TAKE THE TIME TO GET IT RIGHT.

AND THIS IS THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE COMMITTEES WERE DESIGNED TO DO.

SO ALL THIS DOES IS SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE SO IT CAN GO ON THE MARCH AGENDA, AND THEN IT WILL COME TO THE APRIL 1ST FULL COUNCIL.

IT'S REALLY THAT SIMPLE. SO I WILL SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY YOUR YOUR COMMENT ABOUT NOT WANTING ALL THE BACK AND FORTH. IT IS TIRESOME, BUT THERE ALSO WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE ALLEGED THAT ARE JUST SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

BUT. SO I THINK THAT BECAUSE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED ME COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, I HAVE SAID ALL THE THINGS THAT I WISH TO THANK YOU. THE FLOOR IS YOURS STILL.

SO IF YOU WANT TO. IF YOU'RE DONE. I'M SORRY.

MR. BAZALDUA FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, I MORE THAN ANYTHING, I TRULY DO BELIEVE IN THE SPIRIT OF WORKING AS A BODY.

AND VERY OFTEN I MAY BE AN OUTLIER, AND I HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHERE THE BODY HAS DECIDED TO GO.

THE BODY MADE A CLEAR CONSENSUS. AND IT WAS BEYOND JUST DISCUSSING THE, THE ITEM WITH JUST THE SEVEN MEMBERS ON THE COMMITTEE.

I FIND IT REALLY TROUBLING TO HAVE ANY CHAIR UNILATERALLY TRY TO UNDO WHAT WAS AGREED UPON AS A CONSENSUS OF THIS BODY. I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF OF WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TOWARDS A SOLUTION ON THIS HOUSING ISSUE JUST AS WE'VE HEARD FROM MEMBERS THAT IT SHOULD BE DONE AT THE FULL BODY TO RELITIGATE THIS HERE AT THE HORSESHOE, AS IF WE DIDN'T ALREADY COME TO A CLEAR CONSENSUS IS, IS IS VERY CONCERNING. AND IT'S REALLY DISHEARTENING.

BUT I WILL DEFINITELY BE SUPPORTING THIS TO GO TO FULL COUNCIL AND NOT SUPPORTING THIS CURRENT MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE AMENDED MOTION? CHAIRWOMAN. MENTALLY RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THE MOTION DOES NOT TAKE THIS AWAY FROM THE FULL BODY.

IT ADDS THE COMMITTEE MEETING AND THEN THE FULL BODY IN APRIL.

IT'S ADDING EXTRA. THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES IS IT SENDS IT BACK TO COMMITTEE.

AND THEN IT COMES TO THE FULL COUNCIL IN APRIL.

THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

CAN YOU TELL US? IT GOES. THIS MOTION DOES TAKE IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.

AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION TO BRING IT TO FULL COUNCIL.

IT DOES GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE. THIS ITEM DOES.

AND SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE MOTION IS THAT OR THE INTENT IS TO, IS TO HAVE THE COMMITTEE TALK ABOUT IT IN MARCH AND THEN RECOMMEND THAT IT GO TO THE FULL BRIEFING IN APRIL FROM THE COMMITTEE, FROM THE COMMITTEE.

SO IT GOES TO THE COMMITTEE. IT'S THERE. IT'S NOT HERE AT THIS BODY.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE BODY OF THE COMMITTEE HAS TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

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APRIL 1ST. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE MORE PERSON, AT LEAST, WHO WANTS CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. YEAH, I WANT TO JUST ASK. ASK A QUESTION TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN IF THAT'S OKAY, IF SHE'LL RESPOND. SURE. WHAT? WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT THIS IN WRITING? PUT A MEMO TOGETHER TO SAY EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE SAYING NOW THAT IT'LL BE EXECUTED AS SUCH.

YES. I'D BE WILLING TO WRITE A MEMO TODAY ASKING THE MANAGER TO BRING THIS TO AN APRIL 1ST COUNCIL BRIEFING AFTER THE COMMITTEE HAS HEARD IT IN MARCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. BAZALDUA RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEYS BECAUSE IT'S I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S AS EASY AS A MEMO TO BE STATED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING.

REMANDING THIS TAKES IT AWAY FROM THE FULL BODY, AND THE ONLY WAY IT COMES BACK DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT IT ON OUR AGENDA TO BE DISCUSSED, UNLESS WE HAVE A DISCHARGE LIKE WE DID RECENTLY WITH A PARKS ITEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ASSURANCE OF A MEMO WOULD DO FURTHER THAN THE WORD THAT WE HAVE HERE.

CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY, PLEASE, TAMMY? I THINK THE EASIEST SOLUTION, IF YOU WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT COMES BACK, IS TO MODIFY THE MOTION AND JUST SAY THAT IT WILL GO TO THE COMMITTEE IN MARCH AND BACK TO COUNCIL ON APRIL 1ST, JUST TO BE CLEAR. SO EVERYONE VOTES ON THAT. SO THERE'S ASSURANCE.

THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION TO WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST SAID, WHICH IS WHAT I HAD TRIED TO DO ORIGINALLY.

SECOND. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? CAN WE DO THAT BY ACCLAMATION? OKAY, GREAT. THERE'S NO OBJECTION. SO THE AMENDMENT.

THE MOTION HAS BEEN AMENDED AS YOU JUST DESCRIBED IT.

AND, MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES IF YOU'D LIKE IT.

OTHERWISE, EVERYONE'S HEARD THE MOTION. RIGHT? EVERYONE? I'LL LET.

I'LL LET CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN REPEAT IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SUBSTITUTED, AND NORMALLY WE DON'T DO IT THAT WAY.

BUT SINCE YOU GUYS DIDN'T OBJECT TO IT, WE'LL ALLOW IT.

SO I BELIEVE THE SUBSTITUTION IS TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO COMMITTEE TO BE HEARD IN MARCH, AND THEN TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR THE APRIL 1ST BRIEFING.

DID EVERYBODY HEAR THAT? IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THAT? SECOND IT.

YEAH, IT'S ALREADY ON THE FLOOR. IT WAS DONE WITHOUT OBJECTION.

ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NO. I THINK THE AYES HAVE IT. NOTED MR. MAYOR. DESPITE THAT, NO BEING VERY EMPHATIC. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR NEXT ITEM.

AGENDA ITEM 29. AGENDA ITEM 29 AUTHORIZING ACQUISITION, INCLUDING THE EXERCISE OF THE RIGHT OF

[29. Authorize an acquisition, including the exercise of the right of eminent domain, if such becomes necessary, from Columbia Packing of Texas, Ltd. of an unimproved tract of land containing approximately 1.678 acres located on East 11th Street near its intersection with Cedar Crest Boulevard for the Dallas Floodway Extension Project - Not to exceed $411,900.00 ($401,900.00, plus closing costs and title expenses not to exceed $10,000.00) - Financing: Storm Drainage Management Capital Construction Fund *In alignment with Capital Improvement Program.]

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. ALL RIGHT.

THAT GOT US STARTED. IT'S ON THE FLOOR. WHO PULLED THIS? COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED FIRST ON THIS? YES. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. YES I WILL.

I HAVE NOT BEEN BRIEFED BY THIS, BY THE ADMINISTRATION.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THIS IF I CAN BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.

I'M SURPRISED THAT THIS CAME OUT WHEN NO ONE EVEN CONTACTED MY OFFICE OR SPOKE TO ME CONCERNING THIS MATTER.

OKAY, SO IT WAS A MOTION TO APPROVE. THE ITEM WAS MADE AND SECONDED.

SO THAT'S ON THE FLOOR. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE A MOTION IF YOU'D LIKE IT TO, TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? YOU REFERENCED? YES. I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL I.

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SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. SO NOW, FOLKS, WE'RE ON A MOTION TO DEFER ON ITEM 29.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THAT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AGAIN, I JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE COUNCIL.

I'M SORRY WITH THE ADMINISTRATION CONCERNING THIS.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE COUNCIL, I MEAN, WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, SO I CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON THAT THAT HAS BEEN I KNOW IT'S FOR IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER AT CEDAR CREST GOING OVER WHAT WE CALL THE SOUTH DALLAS BRIDGE.

SO JUST GET MORE INFORMATION ON IT, BECAUSE I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THEM.

AND NO ONE REACHED OUT TO ME CONCERNING THIS AT ALL.

SO IF WE CAN DEFER SAY ANYTHING REALLY BRIEFLY BEFORE I GO TO MR. BAZALDUA ON, ON ON THAT. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

AND COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. I HAVE NO RESERVATIONS IN HAVING STAFF SIT AND EXPLAIN THE ITEM.

THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND I DO APOLOGIZE IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE A BRIEFING OR INDICATION THAT THIS ITEM WOULD BE ON TODAY'S AGENDA, BUT WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEND THE QUALITY TIME WITH YOU TO PREPARE FOR IT.

HOPEFULLY BRINGING THIS ITEM BACK ON MARCH THE 25TH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. BAZALDUA. RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO ASK.

I MEAN, I'M I WAS UP TO DATE ON THIS, AND THIS ITEM IS ACTUALLY IN DISTRICT SEVEN, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IT'S SPLIT. IS THIS IS THIS IS THIS DELAY GOING TO CAUSE ANY ISSUES? IS ALL I REALLY CARE ABOUT? NO, ACTUALLY, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE.

NO. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. NO, I WAS JUST I WANTED STAFF TO BE ABLE TO SAY ON RECORD THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO CAUSE ANY ISSUES WITH THE DELAY.

THAT'S IT. SARAH STANDEFER, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES.

WITH RESPECT TO THIS ITEM, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SECOND TRANSACTION ON THE SAME PARCEL.

OWNERSHIP. THIS IS LOCATED AT 11 THAT IS ACTUALLY MISLABELED ON DISTRICT SEVEN.

ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. IT IS PART OF THE DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION PROJECT THAT'S BEEN BRIEFED TO THE COUNCIL.

WE ARE FINE WITH A DEFERRAL UNTIL MARCH 25TH.

WE CAN COME BACK AFTER WE'VE GOTTEN EVERYBODY BACK UP TO SPEED AGAIN.

OKAY, SO THERE'S NO ISSUES. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE DELAY.

POINT OF CLARITY, MR. MAYOR. GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE WHEN I'M LOOKING AT ON MY MY LINE.

COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA IS RIGHT THERE AT 11TH STREET.

CORRECT. BEFORE WE GO TO THE BRIDGE. SO I'M THINKING THAT'S THAT I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A BIG CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT'S IN MY DISTRICT. AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. YEAH. NO, I THINK THAT THERE WAS A MISTAKE ON ONE SECOND. I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU THE FLOOR BACK FOR THREE MINUTES. THAT'S THAT'S NOT A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. THAT'S THAT'S DISCUSSION.

SO. YES, SIR. YOU HAVE FOR THREE MINUTES NOW.

THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE, MR. MAYOR. JUST MAKING SURE, BECAUSE I'M.

I'M UNDERSTANDING. MY UNDERSTANDING. WAS THIS RIGHT ON THE TIP OF GOING OVER TO YOUR DISTRICT? SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT 11TH STREET RIGHT THERE IN THE ROOSEVELT AREA IS IN MY DISTRICT.

SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL.

IT'S JUST IT'S BEEN PROPOSED TO ME AND ON MY MONTHLY INFRASTRUCTURE MEETINGS WITH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS SO THAT I WAS UNDER I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS PROJECT AS IF IT WAS MINE. SO THAT'S A MISTAKE ON ON STAFF'S PART.

AGAIN, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE DELAY. I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO THE PROJECT. YES, AND 25TH IS FINE WITH ME.

I JUST WANT TO GET MORE INFORMATION. YES, SIR.

AND WE WILL SCHEDULE TIME WITH YOUR WITH YOUR TEAM AND MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT YOU'RE FULLY ABREAST OF THE ITEM.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YES. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER BY CHAIRMAN JOHNSON? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. ITEMS DEFERRED. THANK YOU, MADAM SECRETARY.

[47. Authorize a three-year cooperative purchasing agreement for real-time threat monitoring and response service for all city computers and devices for the Department of Information and Technology Services with Netsync Network Solutions, Inc. through the Texas Department of Information Resources cooperative agreement - Not to exceed $2,392,621.50 - Financing: Data Services Fund (subject to annual appropriations)]

AUTHORIZE A THREE YEAR COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR REAL TIME THREAT MONITORING AND RESPONSE SERVICE FOR ALL CITY COMPUTERS AND DEVICES FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY SERVICES WITH. NET SINK NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC., THROUGH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION RESOURCES COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT, NOT TO EXCEED $2,392,621.50. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

IS THERE A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE? SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

DISCUSSION. CHAIRMAN MENDELSOHN YOU PULL THIS RIGHT, YOU RECOGNIZED YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THIS IS AN ITEM TO PURCHASE SOFTWARE FOR THREAT MONITORING AND RESPONSE SERVICES FOR ALL CITY COMPUTERS AND DEVICES.

AND I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I COULDN'T HEAR THAT LAST PART.

I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. OH, OKAY. OUR DIRECTOR OF ITS IS ON HIS WAY OUT.

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YOUR MICROPHONE. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE OF YOUR MICROPHONE. HELLO? JEFF STOVALL, CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER. THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS NOT A GOTCHA QUESTION, AND YOU'RE NEW, SO YOU GET A PASS IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.

BUT THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY COMPUTERS AND DEVICES WE HAVE THAT WOULD BE UNDER THIS CONTRACT? THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 14,000 DEVICES THAT WOULD BE PROTECTED UNDER THIS CONTRACT.

AND I'M SORRY, IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER INTO THE MICROPHONE. PARDON ME. YES.

APPROXIMATELY 14,000 DEVICES ARE PROTECTED UNDER THIS CONTRACT.

AND FOR DEVICES, YOU'RE INCLUDING THE COMPUTERS? YES. SO IT DOES INCLUDE COMPUTERS AND OTHER DEVICES THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THIS SOFTWARE.

WOULD YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THEM ARE COMPUTERS? WELL, GENERALLY THEY'RE ALL COMPUTERS OF ONE KIND OR ANOTHER.

SO WE HAVE SERVERS AS WELL AS LAPTOPS. OKAY. AND DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE THIS SOFTWARE? THIS IS SOFTWARE WE'RE CURRENTLY USING. IT'S THE SOFTWARE AND YOU'RE JUST RE-UPPING.

YES IT IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. MY NEXT ITEM, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION AS WELL.

SO? SO I'M READY. I'M FINISHED. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST? WE'RE ON AGENDA ITEM 47.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM, MADAM SECRETARY, AGENDA ITEM 48 AUTHORIZED A ONE YEAR SERVICE CONTRACT WITH TWO ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS

[48. Authorize a three one-year service contract, with two one-year renewal options for continued subscription services for the City’s enterprise human capital management resource and payroll system platform (Workday) - Workday, Inc., sole source - Not to exceed $15,357,921.00 $4,890,277.00 - Financing: Data Services Fund (subject to annual appropriations)]

WORKDAY DATA SERVICES WORKDAY, INC. SOLE SOURCE NOT TO EXCEED $4,890,277.

THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND IT WAS ALSO PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

IS THERE A MOTION? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN FOR FIVE MINUTES THAT YOU PULLED IT. ITEM 48.

YES. AND I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

SO THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE ITEM OF $15 MILLION.

I'M SORRY. FIVE FOR ONE YEAR. PLEASE PROCEED.

WE'RE PREPARED FOR THE THE QUESTIONS. OKAY. AND STAFF IS READY.

SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT ON WORKDAY SINCE INCEPTION, SINCE IT WAS PROCURED IN 2018.

SO THIS IS SUPPLEMENTAL 15.

DANIEL GIBSON, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. MRS MENDELSOHN.

JUST GIVE US A COUPLE OF MINUTES. SOMEONE THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO PROVIDE THAT NUMBER TO YOU. THEY'RE LOOKING IT UP NOW. OKAY.

SO I BELIEVE IT WAS PROCURED IN 2018 AND IT WENT LIVE IN 2020.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND THERE ACTUALLY HAS BEEN SEVERAL MODULES THROUGHOUT THAT TIME PERIOD THAT WE'VE ADDED THAT WE BROUGHT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. I KNOW THAT MR. IRELAND CAN REFER YOU BACK TO THOSE ITEMS, BUT WHEN WE STARTED THE WORK DAY IMPLEMENTATION, IT WAS ACTUALLY DONE IN PHASES. AND SO IT'S BEEN ABOUT A FIVE YEAR PHASING PROCESS.

BUT I'LL LET MR. IRELAND JUMP IN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. TOLBERT. JACK IRELAND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER THE INITIAL WORK DAY CONTRACT WAS A CONTRACT FOR A SIX YEAR TERM FROM 2018 TO 2024, FOR JUST OVER $20 MILLION. THERE WAS A CONTRACT EXTENSION DONE FOR ONE YEAR, FOR ALMOST $5 MILLION. THEN LAST YEAR, WE DID AN ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR CONTRACT FOR $4.4 MILLION.

AND NOW THIS IS A ONE YEAR CONTRACT FOR AN ADDITIONAL 4.9.

SO SINCE THE INITIAL TERM, EACH CONTRACT EXTENSION HAS BEEN EXTENDING ABOUT A YEAR AT A TIME FOR 4 TO $5 MILLION.

SO THANK YOU. THOSE ARE THE SAME NUMBERS THAT I FOUND.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE MORE NUMBERS THAN I CAN FIND.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE VALUE WE'RE RECEIVING FOR THESE DOLLARS.

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AND I JUST HAVE TO QUESTION IF WHAT WE'RE RECEIVING IS COMMENSURATE WITH THAT EXPENDITURE.

WELL, JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE VALUE OF WORKDAY.

IT'S AN ENTERPRISE WIDE SYSTEM THAT HAS ENABLED MORE EFFICIENT USE BY ALL USER DEPARTMENTS, ALL OPERATIONAL DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS PAYROLL AND THE CITY CONTROLLER'S OFFICE AS WELL AS HUMAN RESOURCES SUPERVISORS ARE ABLE TO DO EMPLOYEE EVALUATIONS AS AN EXAMPLE IN WORKDAY, AS OPPOSED TO IT BEING A PAPER PROCESS.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO QUICKLY IMPLEMENT THE MEET AND CONFER CHANGES FROM THAT ARE APPROVED TODAY TO GET THOSE ADDED INTO PAYROLL QUICKLY AND GET THOSE OUT IN THE NEXT PAYCHECK. IT'S A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS US TO DO PAYROLL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION, RECRUITMENT HIRING. IT'S IT'S AGAIN, AN ENTERPRISE SYSTEM USED BY EVERY DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY FOR HUMAN CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, THE SAME AS WE HAVE A ENTERPRISE WIDE SYSTEM FOR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.

THIS IS A ENTERPRISE WIDE SYSTEM FOR HUMAN CAPITAL MANAGEMENT.

AND ARE YOU PAYING BY LICENSE OR ARE YOU PAYING BY THE NUMBER OF USERS IN THE DATABASE.

HOW IS THAT PRICED? AND I APOLOGIZE, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE ANSWERED BY A TECHNICAL PERSON.

SO I'M GOING TO. YOU'RE CORRECT. IT'S BY LICENSE.

AND HOW MANY LICENSES DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE LICENSES FOR 14,000 EMPLOYEES. AND WE ALSO PAY ON A ON A BASIS OF HOW MANY INSTANCES WE HAVE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE SYSTEM, WHICH IS TWO. I'M SORRY. WE ALSO PAY WE HAVE 14,000 LICENSES, 14,000 USER LICENSES, AND WE ALSO PAY FOR THE INSTANCES WHICH ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO RUN THE SYSTEM AND TO TEST THE SYSTEM.

SO WE HAVE TWO INSTANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

AND SO YOU'RE PURCHASING A LICENSE FOR EVERY ACTIVE EMPLOYEE.

IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS. ALTHOUGH NOT EVERY ACTIVE EMPLOYEE IS CERTAINLY NOT UTILIZING IT.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. WE DID RUN THROUGH THE EMPLOYEE COUNT HERE RECENTLY AND FOUND THAT THAT WAS THE LEVEL OF LICENSING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MIC? MY APOLOGIES. WE HAVE RUN THROUGH THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE ON, ON THE CONTRACT, AND HAVE FOUND THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE HERE CURRENTLY.

SO IF WE DOWNSIZE CITY STAFF BY, LET'S SAY, A THOUSAND EMPLOYEES, WOULD THE NEXT CONTRACT BE REFLECTIVE OF ONLY 13,000 LICENSES? WE CAN ADJUST THE CONTRACT VALUE. YES, WE CAN ADJUST IT FOR THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HAD.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A LINEAR NUMBER, BUT WE CAN ADJUST IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE STAFF LOOKS AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO WORK DAY THAT MIGHT BE MORE REASONABLY PRICED. HAS ANYONE LOOKED AT THAT? SO I MAY ASK FOR SOME HELP FROM IT ON THAT. BUT HAVING IMPLEMENTED THE SYSTEM AND AS MISS MENDELSOHN POINTED OUT, WE DID HAVE A SIGNIFICANT UPFRONT COST TO CHANGE TO ANOTHER SYSTEM WOULD REQUIRE US TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND IMPLEMENT A NEW SYSTEM. THE REASON THAT WE REDUCED THE CONTRACT FROM A MULTI-YEAR JUST TO A ONE YEAR RENEWAL WAS SO THAT WITH THE NEW DIRECTOR OF IT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE SYSTEM AND SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS TO REDUCE THE COST BEFORE WE COME BACK AT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE WE AGREED THAT THERE'S ALWAYS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT.

AND WITH THE NEW IT DIRECTOR, WE THOUGHT THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY, RATHER THAN GOING WITH A THREE YEAR RENEWAL, THAT WE REDUCED IT TO THE ONE YEAR RENEWAL. AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME CORRECTIONS ON THE WAY.

THE AGENDA ITEM WAS PRESENTED. SO MR. DIRECTOR, IS THAT A TASK THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY STARTED OR PLAN TO START IN THE NEXT YEAR? YES, WE DO PLAN TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR USAGE TO DETERMINE IF THERE ARE WAYS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SAVE MONEY.

IF THERE'S ALTERNATE USAGE AT THIS POINT WE'RE CONTINUING TO USE WORKDAY, AND IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MOVE TO ANY OTHER SYSTEM WOULD BE A

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AND SO ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE LOOKED AT ALONG THOSE LINES WOULD BE VERY SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL COST.

SO AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON IS HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE THE USE OF OUR EXISTING SYSTEM AND HOW DO WE MANAGE THE COST OF IT SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A COST IMPACT TO US. WELL, I KNOW THAT SOFTWARE TENDS TO BECOME OUTDATED VERY QUICKLY.

THIS HAS BEEN USED BY THE CITY FOR WHAT, EIGHT YEARS NOW? AND THERE ARE IN MANY ARENAS, NEW SOFTWARE BEING DEVELOPED ALL THE TIME.

SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU AT LEAST LOOK AT OTHER SIMILAR FUNCTION SOFTWARE ON THE MARKET TO SEE IF THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT BE LESS EXPENSIVE, OVERCOME THE COST OF CHANGEOVER, NOT TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME GETTING VENDOR QUOTES, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH IT. AFTER UTILIZING ONE SYSTEM OF SOFTWARE FOR EIGHT YEARS TO LOOK AND SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING NEW ON THE MARKET THAT MIGHT BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE, WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT ELSE IS ON THE MARKET.

THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF SOFTWARE IS A SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL SOFTWARE THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, WHERE SOFTWARE WOULD AGE IN PLACE BECAUSE IT IS SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE, IT IS CONTINUALLY UPDATED.

SO WE HAVE THE LATEST AND GREATEST OF THIS PARTICULAR SOFTWARE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

AND WORKDAY IS AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN THIS PERSPECTIVE AND USED BY LOTS OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, STATES AS WELL AS INDUSTRIES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 48? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 49 AUTHORIZED ONE.

[49. Authorize (1) the rejection of the proposals received for investment advisory services in relation to the City’s pension plans for the City Controller’s Office; and (2) the re-advertisement for a new solicitation - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON WEST, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

IS THERE A MOTION? I'D LIKE TO GIVE A MOTION.

GO AHEAD. OKAY. AS CHAIR OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON THE PENSION, I SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR CFO.

JACK, OF THIS ITEM. SORRY, I JUST MOVED TO APPROVE.

SECOND. I WAS WONDERING IF WE WERE GOING TO GET.

I JUST IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK. IT'S WEDNESDAY.

I KNOW, OKAY. SO WHAT IS THE MOTION? I HEARD A MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. DO YOU WANT THE FLOOR FIRST? THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. SO I SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR STAFF AND THAT WE CLOSE THE RFP AND OPEN A NEW ONE.

I BELIEVE THAT HOW WE DO SOMETHING IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND I WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE THESE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS INTO ACCOUNT.

WOULD MR. IRELAND COME UP SO I COULD ASK A FEW QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. SO CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT THIS PROCESS IS? WHAT IF WE APPROVE THIS ITEM? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? SO THE ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA IS TO REJECT THE PROPOSALS THAT WERE RECEIVED FOR THE INVESTMENT ADVISORY SERVICES, AND THEN TO RE-ADVERTISE. SO IF THIS ITEM IS APPROVED, IT WOULD BE OUR INTENT TO AGAIN WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES TO REVIEW AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE SOLICITATION.

WE WOULD SEEK INPUT AND HAVE DIALOG AND COLLABORATION WITH BOTH THE EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT FUND AND THE DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM TO ENGAGE WITH THEM AS OUR PRIMARY STAKEHOLDERS.

AND WE WOULD RE-ADVERTISE AND GO OUT FOR ANOTHER SOLICITATION.

ONCE A VENDOR IS SELECTED, THEN IT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR THE APPROVAL OF A NEW CONTRACT.

OKAY. I BELIEVE THERE WERE, LIKE, SIX DIFFERENT ITEMS. POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE RFP. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU WERE GOING TO REVIEW. LOOK AT THE PRB REQUIREMENTS.

YEAH. IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN TALK SOME ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE UPON THE CURRENT RFP THAT WAS ISSUED A YEAR AGO. REALLY, AGAIN, WANT TO FOCUS ON THE BUY IN AND INCLUSION OF OUR PRIMARY STAKEHOLDERS? WE WOULD WANT TO IMPROVE UPON OUR EMPHASIS ON GOVERNANCE, GOVERNANCE, BOTH OF THE TWO SYSTEMS,

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THEY BOTH HIRE CONSULTANTS TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR INVESTMENTS.

THE DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM ALSO HAS A INVESTMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MADE UP OF THREE OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS AND SIX INDUSTRY EXPERTS, WHEREAS URF DOES NOT HAVE THAT. WE THEN THINGS GO TO THEIR BOARDS.

WE WOULD LIKE A MORE CLARITY AROUND THE GOVERNANCE OF EACH OF THE TWO SYSTEMS ON THEIR DECISIONS REGARDING INVESTMENTS, AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE TO THEM THROUGH THIS CONTRACT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT OUR METHODOLOGY THAT WE'VE LAID OUT IN THE RFP AND BE ABLE TO ENHANCE THOSE.

WE DIDN'T REQUEST ANY TYPE OF STRESS TESTING OVER THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE.

AND WE THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE. WE THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THE INDEPENDENCE AND TRANSPARENCY AND PRIMARILY FUTURE COMPLIANCE AND ALIGNMENT WITH THE PENSION REVIEW BOARD. THE PENSION REVIEW BOARD HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR INVESTMENT PERFORMANCE REPORTS.

WE REALLY WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND MAKE SURE THOSE WERE INCORPORATED INTO THIS SO THAT WE ARE CHECKING THEM AS THEY ARE THEN REPORTING TO PRB. SO IT JUST PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE UPON IT.

AND REALLY TO ENGAGE OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN A WAY DIFFERENT THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST WAS OUR APPROACH.

IF IF THIS IS APPROVED AND HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE, DO YOU THINK, BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE IN PLACE, A COMPANY IN PLACE? SO JUANITA MIGHT NUDGE ME HERE, BUT I'M SAYING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO BE BACK BEFORE COUNCIL IN MAY, MAYBE JUNE AT THE LATEST. IS THAT FAIR, JUANITA? YEAH. SO YEAH. SO THERE'S NOT A THERE'S NOT AS AS LONG AS WE PRIORITIZE IT.

JUANITA'S TEAM IS OBVIOUSLY GREAT AT WORKING WITH US AND AND TRY TO EXPEDITE THAT.

I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE BACK BEFORE THE BODY IN MAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.

THANK YOU FOR REVEALING WHAT YOU HAD SHARED ABOUT HOW YOU BELIEVE THAT THOSE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE OVERSIGHT OVER SHOULD BE SO EMBEDDED IN OUR PROCESS FOR WHO WE SELECT. I AM JUST TROUBLED BY THAT.

TO THE CORE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR DURING THE 20 2627 COUNCIL BUDGETING PROCESS, THIS BODY AFFIRMED FUNDS TO HIRE AN INVESTMENT ADVISER OR SERVICES FOR AN INVESTMENT ADVISORY.

IT WAS 195,000 ANNUAL SPEND FOR OVERSIGHT OF $5.5 BILLION IN PENSION FUNDS FOR THE EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT FUND AND POLICE AND FIRE PENSION FUND, THOUGH A NEW TRAJECTORY OF OVERSIGHT OF THESE FUNDS HAD BEEN LAUNCHED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

CURIOUSLY, THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET DID NOT INCLUDE FUNDING AN INDEPENDENT EVALUATION OF BOTH OF THESE FUNDS.

IT HAD TO BE DISCOVERED AND THEN THIS BODY PASSED IT BY AMENDMENT TO GO ON AND FUND THAT.

THAT WAS A SIGN OF THE DESIRE TO KEEP THE OVERSIGHT GOING.

AND THOUGH THE FUNDS PUBLISHED THEIR OWN REPORTS, THEY DO CRITICAL UNDERSTANDING OF NOT ONLY THEIR PERFORMANCE, BUT ALSO ANALYSIS OF THE INVESTMENT MIX AND EXPERT RECOMMENDATIONS ON STRENGTHENING THAT MIX GOING FORWARD IS IMPORTANT FOR THIS MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND, AND IT'S A VERY USEFUL TOOL TOOL FOR BOTH PENSION FUND BOARDS TO CONSIDER WHEN THEY'RE HEARING THEIR STAFF REPORTS ON THE SAME.

SO THE OBJECTIVITY OF THIS REPORT CAN BE A VERY HELPFUL TOOL FOR THOSE BOARDS AS WELL.

OVERSIGHT SENDS A STRONG MESSAGE TO OUR TAXPAYING PUBLIC, AS WELL AS TO THE INDEPENDENT BOARDS OF DIRECTORS OF EACH FUND.

THIS OVERSIGHT AND ANALYSIS BENEFITS CITY EMPLOYEES AND POLICE AND FIRE ACTIVE AND RETIRED IN ADDITION TO TAXPAYERS, AS WE ALL WANT THE FUNDS PERFORMING AS BEST THEY CAN.

IF COUNCILS OF THE PAST HAD HAD THIS KIND OF GUIDANCE, IT WOULD HAVE SAVED US ALL THIS FINANCIAL HEADACHE.

TROUBLING MARKERS WOULD HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL, SO APPROPRIATE ACTION COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN.

THIS WOULD HAVE SAVED DALLAS TAXPAYERS BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

CAN YOU THINK OF A WAY THAT MONEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN SPENT? THIS MOTION TO CONTINUE? WELL, I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSEQUENT MOTION, BUT I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION BECAUSE WE HAVE PROCURED A PREFERRED VENDOR, A PROCESS THAT TOOK PLACE LAST YEAR. AT THIS TIME FIVE MONTHS HAVE GONE BY SINCE A CONTRACT WAS NEGOTIATED, AND IT HAS BEEN DORMANT. SINCE THAT TIME, OUR OVERSIGHT HAS BEEN DORMANT AND THERE IS A SEASON OF REPORTING.

SO DELAYING THIS AND PUSHING IT INTO THE SUMMER REALLY DOES COST US.

THERE COULD BE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PENSION FUND BOARDS THAT THEY COULD CHOOSE TO ACT ON.

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GOING FORWARD WITH THE THE SELECTED VENDOR WILL WILL HELP THEM WILL HELP INFORM THOSE BOARDS THAT COULD PUSH THAT PERFORMANCE, WHICH IS GOOD FOR ALL OF US. I AGREE THAT THE COMMITTEES, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND PERHAPS JOINTLY WITH THE PENSION AD HOC CAN EXPLORE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I KNOW I PERSONALLY HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH IT, AND I THINK THAT IF YOU SCRATCH BELOW THE SURFACE, OTHERS MAY AS WELL. BUT I KNOW WE'VE GOT NEW APPOINTEES BY THE MAYOR ON ON ONE OF OUR FUNDS, BUT THEIR DUTY IS TO THE FUND, NOT TO US, NOT TO THE TAXPAYER.

AND SO I WOULD ASK COLLEAGUES TO REJECT THIS MOTION SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO GETTING THE OVERSIGHT THAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS AND THAT DALLAS TAXPAYERS DESERVE. THANK YOU.

OH.

CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THIS. WHEN WERE THESE SPECIFICATIONS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED? SO TAKE ME THROUGH THE TIMELINE TO. ACTUALLY. SO THE SPECIFICATION IS DEVELOPED AND IT WAS ADVERTISED WHEN.

SO IT'S GOING TO. TAKE ONE STEP BACK BEFORE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

WE ACTUALLY DID IN APRIL OF 24, WE DID A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND ENGAGED IN A CONTRACT THAT THEN RESULTED IN A REPORT TO THE PENSION AD HOC COMMITTEE IN JUNE OF 2024.

AND THEN WE LOOKED AT CONTINUING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND ISSUED A NEW REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL IN FEBRUARY OF 2025, ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT HAVE MONEY TO SUPPORT A CONTINUED CONTRACT.

WE ISSUED THE RFP THROUGH THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT SERVICES IN FEBRUARY OF 2025 THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

A DECISION WAS MADE IN IN RECOMMENDING A BALANCED BUDGET TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET.

THE CITY COUNCIL, AS WAS POINTED OUT, DID MAKE AN AMENDMENT ADDED $200,000 TO THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET.

SO STARTING IN THE NEW YEAR, OCTOBER 1ST, WE DID HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THE CONTRACT.

THE CONTRACT WAS PROVIDED TO THE IDENTIFIED VENDOR THAT WAS NEGOTIATED, WORKED OUT.

BUT THROUGH THE FALL, WE WERE FOCUSED ON GETTING A 30 YEAR DEAL ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

AND THAT WAS FINALLY APPROVED IN DECEMBER 10TH AND 11TH BY THE COUNCIL AND THE BOARD.

AND THEN NOW WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE THINK THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE UPON IT AND REISSUE.

LONG ANSWER. FEBRUARY OF 2015. APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS IN MY MIND.

AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG OR SAY IT MORE PROFESSIONAL, BUT IN MY MIND, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE WE WROTE A LETTER WHEN WE WAS ANGRY, YOU KNOW, TO TO TO GET THESE SERVICES IN PLACE.

AND PERHAPS I'M NOT SUGGESTING ANYTHING, I'M JUST TRYING TO GO THROUGH, LIKE WHAT? BETWEEN THESE SPECIFICATIONS AND THE SPECIFICATIONS? I KNOW YOU WENT THROUGH THAT LIST, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE THE TENSION BETWEEN THE BODIES.

WHEN THAT WHEN THOSE SPECIFICATIONS. AND DOES THIS GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF CLOSE THAT GAP IN TERMS OF HOW WE WORK TOGETHER AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

AND PERHAPS NOW THAT WE'VE KIND OF REACHED AN AGREEMENT, HOW MUCH DOES THIS WOULD THIS SERVICES AND ALL THIS STUFF CHANGE AS A RESULT? YEAH. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S A KEY PART OF THIS IS WHILE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE SPECIFICATIONS, I REALLY THINK THAT APPROACHING THIS FROM A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH WILL YIELD THE MOST SUCCESS FOR THE CITY.

AND SO, BY REJECTING THE BIDS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED, DOING A NEW SOLICITATION, ENGAGING THE STAKEHOLDERS AGAIN, THAT BOTH THE URF AND THE DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM ALLOW THEM TO GIVE INPUT AS I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, THEY POINTED OUT SOME THINGS THAT THAT THEY THOUGHT SHOULD BE INCORPORATED.

AGAIN, IT'S STILL TO GIVE THIS BODY A THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT REVIEW.

THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THAT. THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WANT.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DELIVER. BUT I THINK THE BEST SUCCESS FROM THAT IS GOING TO BE REACHED THROUGH COLLABORATION, NOT CONFLICT. AND YOU SAID SOMETHING. THIS IS BOTH.

THIS IS FOR BOTH URF AND. YES, SIR. THIS IS FOR BOTH DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM AND EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT FUND.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS BLAIR RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. LET ME SEE AS I UNDERSTAND, WHAT'S WHAT THE MOTION IS, IS TO REJECT WHAT IS IN PLACE TODAY.

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THERE ARE DIFFERENT PROCESSES BY URF AND DALLAS, POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM.

SO WHICH IS THE BEST PRACTICE? I BELIEVE THAT DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM HAS AN EXTRA LAYER OF GOVERNANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED AND POSSIBLY REPLICATED BY URF. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, AGAIN, TO ENHANCE OUR METHODOLOGY FOR STRESS TESTING ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE UPON THE FUTURE ALIGNMENT WITH THE PENSION REVIEW BOARD.

THE TEXAS PENSION REVIEW BOARD HAS A REQUIREMENT FOR INVESTMENT PERFORMANCE REPORT EVERY THREE YEARS.

AND THEY HAVE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW AND INCORPORATE, WHERE POSSIBLE, INTO OUR OWN SPECIFICATIONS. AGAIN, I THINK THOSE THINGS WILL IMPROVE UPON WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

I THINK WE WE HAVE OKAY. RFP, BUT I THINK I CAN MAKE IT BETTER.

AND I THINK WE CAN GET A BETTER RESULT THROUGH COLLABORATION, IF I CAN.

MR. MAYOR, I WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE COUNCILWOMAN.

BLAIR, IF THAT'S OKAY. AND THANK YOU, MR. IRELAND, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT WHAT THIS BODY WANTS. AND I THINK WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THE RIGHT LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT AND DUE DILIGENCE, AND I THINK THAT'S FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. I THINK WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS THAT WE BELIEVE THAT IF WE GO INTO A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO DO IT TOGETHER FROM THE VERY JUMP START, IT WILL BE A BETTER OUTCOME FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT. THERE ARE THINGS THAT I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE MISSED, AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW, WITH SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE FROM THE TEXAS PENSION REVIEW BOARD THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ADD TO THE SOLICITATION.

AND THAT WAY, WE BRING YOU A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BELIEVE REALLY ALLOWS FOR YOU TO GET THE ADDITIONAL LAYER OF OVERSIGHT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS ABOUT STAFF NOT WANTING TO DELIVER ON WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO DO.

WE WANT TO DO IT. WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. AND WE WANT TO BRING YOU A RECOMMENDATION THAT TAKES THOSE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS AND ENHANCEMENTS INTO THE SOLICITATION AND BE ABLE TO BRING YOU BACK THE OUTCOME. SO I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO WHAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR US TO DO.

THANK YOU. SO CAN I SEE IF I BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE WHEN YOU GUYS STARTED THE PROCESS AND WHAT I THINK I AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNT THAT CHAIR GRACEY SAID THAT JUST LIKE PERKED UP ON MY EARS.

HE SAID THAT THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS LIKE THAT WAS WRITTEN IN A IN A FIT OF ANGER.

BUT WHAT WHAT I THINK I'M GETTING AND I'M HEARING THAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING TO ME AS SOMEONE WHO WASN'T THERE WHEN IT STARTED WAS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ALIGN THE POLICE PENSION AND EMPLOYEE PENSION TO GET SERVICES AND ITEMS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY MISSED IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WAS AGREED WITH IN THE POLICE PENSION THAT WE DID, BECAUSE IT WAS A NEW CONTRACT THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE FORESIGHT TO ADD IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT. THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE NOW TRYING TO DISCHARGE AND REDO.

SO I WOULD NOT PHRASE IT THAT WAY. I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PREPARED AND IMPROVE UPON IT.

AGAIN, I THINK THE PRIMARY BENEFIT COULD BE FROM A COLLABORATION WITH THE TWO PENSION FUNDS.

WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A CONTRACT AND WE WOULD GET REPORTS AND RESULTS.

I JUST THINK YOU WILL GET A BETTER PRODUCT THROUGH COLLABORATION WITH THEM WITH THE TWO SYSTEMS. WHEN THE RFP WAS ISSUED INITIALLY AND THE INITIAL REPORTS WERE MADE TO THE PENSION AD HOC COMMITTEE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF ANIMOSITY. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFLICT.

IT GOT A LOT OF BAD PRESS. AND I THINK WE CAN APPROACH IT IN A MORE COLLABORATIVE WAY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO. WE CAN WE CAN AWARD WHAT WE HAVE.

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BECAUSE AS MISS TALBERT MENTIONED, WE ARE 100% BEHIND KNOWING THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS THAT OVERSIGHT BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY STEPPED UP AND ADDRESSED THINGS THAT HADN'T BEEN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT IN THE WAY WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE PENSION SYSTEMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M DONE. MISS BLACKMON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING UP HERE. YES, I REMEMBER THE VOTE LATE.

I GUESS IT WAS THAT BUDGET DAY. JACK, WHO ASKED FOR THIS CHANGE OF DIRECTION.

LIKE WE HAD IT, LIKE YOU SAID, IN FEBRUARY OF 25.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GOING TO REJECT ALL THAT AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO CHANGE OF DIRECTION.

SO I RECOMMENDED THAT TO MISS TOLBERT IN WE WORK THROUGH THE FALL TRYING TO GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE ON THE 30 YEAR AGREEMENT.

AND AFTER THAT I APPROACHED MISS TOLBERT ABOUT DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD TO AWARD THE CONTRACT? I THINK WE COULD HAVE A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE UPON IT.

AND I APPROACH MISS TOLBERT WITHOUT COMING TO ANYBODY.

THAT IS CORRECT. I REPORT TO MISS TOLBERT AND I SOUGHT HER GUIDANCE ON THIS SIGNIFIED EARMARKED 200,000 FOR THE CONTRACT.

SO AGAIN, IT'S STILL A PROCUREMENT PROCESS. AND WE BRING PROCUREMENT ITEMS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDED FOR COUNCIL TO AWARD IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.

COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. OUR RECOMMENDATION BEFORE THE BODY, WHICH AGAIN IS YOUR DECISION, OUR RECOMMENDATION BEFORE THE BODY IS BASED ON THE PROCESS THAT WE PREVIOUSLY UNDERTOOK, THAT WE PUT ON THE STREET, THAT WE TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE AND REDO THE SOLICITATION.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNSEL IS SEEKING, BUT OUR RECOMMENDATION TODAY IS FOR US TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY WE BELIEVE, TO STRENGTHEN THE SOLICITATION AND BRING YOU BACK A RECOMMENDATION.

SO WE'RE NOT MAKING WE'RE NOT BRINGING YOU A RECOMMENDATION TODAY TO AWARD.

SO CAN I ASK YOU WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE ARE SEEKING? YOU JUST SAID THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOW CHANGING A DIRECTION. SO WE WERE SEEKING ONE THING, BUT NOW YOU'RE ADDING ANOTHER ELEMENT.

SO I THINK OUR SEEKING OUR NORTH STARS MAY BE DIFFERENT.

SO I'M TRYING TO ASK YOU, WHAT DO YOU SEE WHY WE WANT THIS CONTRACT? WHAT IS YOUR VISION OF WHY THE COUNCIL WANTS OVERSIGHT? AND I WANT YOU TO TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO BRING TO IT AS AN ADDED ELEMENT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE CHANGING IT. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LET'S TRY TO UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE ALL ALIGNED ON THE BASIS OF WHAT COUNCIL WANTS AND THEN UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING TO IT. SO I'LL START. IT'S NOT CHANGE.

IT'S ENHANCED. IT'S TAKING THE ORIGINAL DIRECTION.

AND WE BELIEVE BASED ON WHAT WE PUT ON THE STREET, THAT WE DID NOT BRING EVEN THE SOLICITATION BEFORE THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO, THAT WE AS STAFF HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PUT ON THE STREET.

NOW THAT WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE THROUGH THIS PROCESS OVER THE LAST YEAR WORKING, WHETHER IT'S WITH RF OR WITH THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION AND WITH THE TEXAS PENSION REVIEW BOARD.

THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE ENHANCES WHAT COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS.

AND MR. CORE THING THAT WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO DO, I MEAN, THAT'S THE BASIS OF THIS, IS I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALIGNED ON THE CORE BECAUSE THIS IS STRICTLY TO MY OPINION, OVERSIGHT. WHY WOULD YOU ASK SOMEBODY WHO YOU'RE HAVING OVERSIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCUREMENT AND THE IN THE WRITING OF IT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING. AND Y'ALL SAID IT BECAUSE I THINK I QUOTED WE'RE HAVING OVERSIGHT OF STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH I THINK YOU WRITE IN HERE. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS OF WHY WOULD WE HAVE THE STAKEHOLDERS COME IN AND SAY, WELL, THIS IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO GRADE ME ON.

I GOT IT RIGHT HERE. NO, I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU APPROACH THINGS IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A REPORT THAT RELIES UPON GATHERING INFORMATION FROM AN ANOTHER BODY THAT YOU NEED THEIR COOPERATION FROM, THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION.

I THINK APPROACHING THAT THROUGH COLLABORATION IS A BETTER APPROACH.

WE CAN GO IN HARD HANDED AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE AND THIS IS OUR CONTRACTOR, AND, AND AND WE'RE THE CITY.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CHANGE OUR TONE WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS WHERE THEY ARE WORKING WITH US.

I HAVE REACHED OUT ALREADY TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF BOTH.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH, A BOARD MEMBER FROM EACH, AND THEY THINK THAT APPROACH WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. WE CAN GO HARD. IT IS A GOOD APPROACH, I THINK. YES, WE COULD SHOW THEM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BUT THEY DO NOT PARTICIPATE BECAUSE I THINK YOU BASICALLY SAID IN DRAFTING THE RFP AND REVIEWING PROPOSALS TO ENSURE COOPERATION OF GOVERNMENT ALLIANCE THAT I THINK IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

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I'VE BEEN HERE WITH LEOPARD. I WAS HERE WITH RAWLINGS.

AND IF WE'D HAVE HAD BETTER OVERSIGHT BECAUSE I THINK, JACK, WHEN DO WE MAKE THAT $500 MILLION PAYMENT? IN WHAT YEAR? 37? WHEN WE DO A HALF $1 BILLION TO THE PENSION FUND, ACCORDING TO OUR PLAN? I APOLOGIZE, I JUST DIDN'T HEAR YOU. OUR PLAN.

WE MAKE A HOW. WHAT IS OUR BIGGEST BALLOON PAYMENT WE MAKE TO THAT PENSION AND IN WHAT YEAR? SO OUR ANNUAL PAYMENTS. AND I'M NOT SURE I'M REALLY ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.

OUR ANNUAL PAYMENTS TO THE SYSTEMS WE PAY $225.7 MILLION TO THE DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM.

IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE IN, AND WE PAY A TOTAL OF $146.1 MILLION TO ERF IN THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN.

AND THAT'S THOSE DO INCREASE OVER TIME, CORRECT.

BASED ON THE ADC IN MY OPINION, NEED SOMEBODY BECAUSE I'M NOT A FINANCIAL EXPERT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE GUIDING ME IN ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS AND UNDERSTANDING IS IS IT RECONCILING? BECAUSE I WAS HERE WHEN WHEN RAWLINGS BLEW THE LID AND AND IT WAS BECAUSE HE KEPT SAYING, THESE ARE NUMBERS ARE NOT RECONCILING.

AND I THINK IF WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF SOMEBODY LOOKING FOR US THAT IT WOULD, IT WOULD HELP.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IS IF YOU WANT TO DO THESE OTHER ENHANCEMENTS, FINE.

BUT WHY CAN'T WE DO THE CORE NOW AND YOU GO OUT AND PROCURE FOR THE NEXT, I GUESS TILL MAY.

JUANITA, YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS IN THREE MONTHS.

AND WE HAD A A YEAR, OKAY? WE CAN'T EVEN GET SOME OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS PROCURED, AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO DO IT IN THREE MONTHS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK HERE AGAIN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IN A YEAR WHY WE HAD A VOTE TO BASICALLY SAY, YES, LET'S DO SOMETHING. BUT NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK, SAYING, NO, WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE IT.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE, DO YOUR ENHANCEMENTS, BUT KEEP THIS ONE GOING AND YOU KNOW, AND HOW THE BODY GOES, HOW THE BODY GOES. BUT WHEN THE NEXT COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE KEEPING A CLOSE, NEEDS TO BE KEEPING A CLOSE TABS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO REACH A HALF $1 BILLION PAYMENT IN OUT THERE. AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

AND THANK YOU, MISS BLACKMON. AND WE ABSOLUTELY WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER THE COUNCIL DIRECTS US TO DO.

BUT IT'S MY OPINION THAT WE COULD GET A BETTER REPORT BY STARTING STEPPING BACK AND GOING TO RESTARTING.

BUT WE WILL GO FORWARD WITH. HOWEVER YOU DIRECT US AND SO YOU TALK ABOUT STAKEHOLDERS.

ARE WE STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS TOO? ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK THE STAKEHOLDERS WANT THE THIRD AND OUR TAXPAYERS AND STAKEHOLDERS.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SAY TO HEAR THAT A PENSION IS A STAKEHOLDER.

WE'RE ALL STAKEHOLDERS BECAUSE IT'S ALL GOING TO AFFECT US.

I HAD A LIBRARY CLOSED. OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, IT ALL AFFECTS US AND TO AND TO NOT HAVE SOMEBODY HELPING GUIDE US. I GUESS THAT'S JUST HOW WE RUN THINGS AROUND HERE.

SO I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO JUST JUMP IN AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON, FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND I WANT TO JUST AGAIN, WE WE ARE HERE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.

AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE THAT WE BELIEVE THAT EVEN THE BASE SOLICITATION CAN BE STRENGTHENED, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT WE DID NOT INCLUDE.

BUT THIS IS OUR RECOMMENDATION AND WE DEFINITELY DON'T.

AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO SEND THE MESSAGE THAT STAFF IS NOT TRYING TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT COUNCIL REQUESTED.

I DO WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THIS EXTERNAL SOLICITATION.

THE PRIORITY THAT WAS PLACED ON US WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T GO INTO THIS NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS THIS YEAR, WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT WITH OUR WITH OUR WITH OUR PENSION BOARDS.

WE SPENT NUMEROUS HOURS, AS THIS COUNCIL KNOWS, TRYING TO GET THAT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT WE DID MAKE THAT A PRIORITY.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE BANDWIDTH, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE THAT WAS SUCH A TEDIOUS PROCESS, INCLUDING THE HOURS THAT WE SPENT NEGOTIATING, NEGOTIATING AND NEGOTIATING, SO I DON'T WANT STAFF TO FEEL BAD ABOUT WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BUT WE DEFINITELY WILL TAKE DIRECTION FROM THIS BODY TODAY AND WE WILL PROCEED AS YOU DIRECT. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS, IS KEEP PRESERVE THE NEGOTIATING THAT HAS BEEN DONE.

BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS A VERY TIGHT NEGOTIATION PROCESS.

AND I THINK BETTER OVERSIGHT KEEPS US ALL HONEST.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. AND TO SAY THAT AND JUST SAY AND JUANITA NO LATER THAN JUNE.

SO THE TIME IS TICKING. OTHERWISE, I GUESS WE'LL DO A FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

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THANK YOU. MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE ME SOME SOME BACKGROUND AND MAYBE THE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS WILL HELP ME UNDERSTAND IT AT THIS POINT? DO WE HAVE A FINANCIAL ADVISOR CONTRACTED WITH THE CITY.

THAT'S THAT'S WORKING ON OUR BEHALF. NO, SIR.

THE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS OR THROUGH THE MAYOR HAS APPOINTED REPRESENTATION ON THE DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM BOARD, AS WELL AS THERE'S OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO THE BOARD FOR THE EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT FUND.

WE HAVE THREE COUNCIL APPOINTED POSITIONS. THREE EMPLOYEE ELECTED POSITION IN THE CITY AUDITOR.

THEY SERVE AS THE BOARD. THEY HAVE THE INDEPENDENCE OF THAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S BEEN MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THOSE FUNDS.

EACH OF THOSE TWO BOARDS HAVE THEN A PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT THEY'VE HIRED, AND BOTH OF THE TWO BOARDS HAVE HIRED INVESTMENT CONSULTING FIRMS TO HELP WITH THEIR INVESTMENTS.

ANYTHING ANY REPORT WE HAVE, WE CAN PROVIDE TO THEM, WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEM.

WE DO NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THEIR INVESTMENT DECISIONS.

ONLY THEIR BOARDS DO. SO THIS THIS DOES THIS.

IF WE PASS THIS MOTION, DOES THAT ELIMINATE OUR ABILITY TO ENGAGE OR HAVE A, A PERSONAL INVESTMENT ADVISOR FOR THE CITY AS AN OVERSIGHT ADVISOR AT THIS POINT? SO THE QUESTION IS, DO WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD, I GUESS, WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH AND HIRED THAT CONSULTANT, OR DO WE TAKE A STEP BACK AND THEN HIRE A CONSULTANT? BUT WE THE OUTCOME OF THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT HIRED BY THE CITY TO PROVIDE REVIEW OF BOTH OF THE TWO SYSTEMS REPORT BACK TO THIS BODY. WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TWO BOARDS, BUT IT WILL BE UP TO THE BOARDS TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER THEY IMPLEMENT ANYTHING WE SAY OR NOT. THEY HAVE THE FINAL DECISION. UNFORTUNATELY YOU DON'T.

CAN WE HIRE THE THE ADVISORY FIRM AND STILL CRAFT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR A REEVALUATION OF OF A NEW ADVISORY FIRM DOWN THE ROAD? YES, SIR. WHAT? WE HAD THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL THAT WE HAD PREPARED WAS A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO, TWO YEAR RENEWALS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE FUNDING IN THE BUDGET FOR ONE YEAR OF THE TWO YEARS.

SO WE COULD ALWAYS CANCEL THE CONTRACT. YOU COULD AWARD A TWO YEAR CONTRACT.

YOU COULD CANCEL IT ONE YEAR IN. YOU COULD CHOOSE TO NOT FUND IT ONE YEAR IN.

SO WE ONLY HAVE FUNDING FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CONTRACT WHENEVER WE AWARD IT.

SO THE FUNDING RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 200, $250,000.

WE HAVE $200,000 IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET. THE CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WE HAD BEFORE US HAD A ONE YEAR COST OF 195,000 390,000 FOR THE TWO YEAR OF THE CONTRACT.

OKAY. AND SO DOES DOES THE DO THE TWO POLICE PENSION AND THE EMPLOYEE PENSION.

DO THEY ALREADY GIVE US INFORMATION AND MAKE REPORTS TO US SINCE WE ARE A CONSTITUENT OF YOU KNOW, BODY? RELATED TO THAT? YES, SIR. WE WE RECEIVED DIFFERENT TYPES OF REPORTS FROM THEM, AND WE HAVE IN THE PAST AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM BRIEF COMMITTEE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. WE, WE DO ENGAGE WITH DELOITTE CONSULTING AS OUR ACTUARY, AND THEY ARE CONSTANTLY REVIEWING THINGS FOR THE TWO SYSTEMS. FOR ME, EVERYTHING I GET FROM THE PENSION SYSTEMS, I TURN TO DELOITTE FOR THEIR REVIEW AND THEIR ACTUARIAL ANALYSIS OF THE THE SYSTEMS. BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THE COUNCIL WANTED, AND I RESPECT THAT VERY MUCH, THAT YOU WANT SOMEONE THAT LOOKS MORE SPECIFICALLY OF THE INVESTMENTS. IT'S DO WE MOVE FORWARD TODAY OR DO WE DO WE COME BACK WITH A NEW SOLICITATION? AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE THE DELOITTE IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE ACTUARIAL AND THE ACCOUNTING SIDE OF IT, AS OPPOSED TO THE INVESTMENT AND AND MAKEUP OF THE PORTFOLIO.

EXACTLY. IN THAT SITUATION. AND THIS ADVISORY CONTRACTOR WOULD BE SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE INVESTMENT OBLIGATIONS.

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MOST OF OUR CONTRACTS HAVE CANCELLATION FOR CONVENIENCE, AND WE ARE ABLE TO CANCEL THOSE CONTRACTS.

THEY'RE ALSO SUBJECT TO ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS. SO IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO FUND IT IN A FUTURE YEAR, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO CANCEL. OKAY, SO MY AFTER ANSWERING, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS.

WE'VE GOT $5 BILLION WORTH OF INVESTMENTS HERE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY LOOKING AT THIS FROM OUR FROM OUR SIDE OF THE TABLE.

THAT'S IRRESPONSIBLE IN MY IN MY OPINION AND I AND IF WE IF WE HAVE A VACANT SEAT IN THAT POSITION, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A GOOD STEWARD OF, OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET SOMEBODY IN THAT CHAIR IF WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT WAS QUALIFIED TO DO THAT, THAT WE PUT HIM IN THAT CHAIR UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT KIND OF A NEW RECOMMENDATION OR NEW KIND OF A OF AN ADVISORY REQUIREMENT, WE NEED. BUT TO HAVE A CHAIR VACANT ON A $5 BILLION INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY LOOKING AT THIS ON OUR BEHALF IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT IS IRRESPONSIBLE.

AND I AND AND I'M, I'M JUST ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED THAT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THIS KIND OF A SITUATION.

SO I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS MOTION IS CRAFTED AND HOW WE DO THIS, BUT I WOULD VERY MUCH RECOMMEND THAT WE GET SOMEBODY IN THAT SEAT.

NUMBER ONE, WE MAKE THE NEW RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT KIND OF A SOLICITATION WE WANT, AND THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE RIGHT KIND OF OF SUCCESSIVE PERSON INTO THAT POSITION. IF THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT SUCCESSIVE RIGHT PERSON RIGHT NOW.

I'M SORRY TO BE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, BUT THIS IS TO ME, INCREDIBLE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK YOUR CONCERNS ARE WELL PLACED.

MR. ROTH THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

WE CANNOT AFFORD TO WAIT UNTIL SUMMER, ANOTHER 4 OR 5 MONTHS BEFORE WE PUT SOMEONE IN TO WATCH THE HENHOUSE.

AND THIS PROPOSAL TO DEFER THIS TO SOMEHOW ENHANCE THE RFP SPECIFICATIONS IS SIMPLY AS JACK HAS EXPLAINED, A COLLABORATION WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OVERSEEING.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE COUNCIL VOTED FOR IN THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.

WE VOTED FOR OVERSIGHT OF THE INVESTMENTS MADE BY THESE PENSION PLANS.

AND THIS IS JUST AN EFFORT TO WATER THAT OVERSIGHT DOWN BY COLLABORATING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OVERSEEING.

THAT'S LIKE THE FOX WATCHING THE HENHOUSE. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE COUNCIL'S EFFORT WAS IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUDGET AMENDMENT LAST SEPTEMBER. SO I AM AGAINST THIS MOTION. I THINK WE NEED A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ALREADY PROCURED PREFERRED VENDOR, WHO I UNDERSTAND WAS THE ONE WHO DID THE REVIEW OF THE INVESTMENTS BACK IN 24.

AND SO THEY ALREADY KNOW THE TERRITORY, AND THERE IS NO REASON TO DELAY THIS JUST FOR SOME ENHANCEMENTS, WHICH IF THEY WERE THAT IMPORTANT, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL RFP.

SO MAYBE THEY'RE DESIRABLE, OR MAYBE SOME OF THEM ARE DESIRABLE, BUT THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE FOR NOT IMPLEMENTING OVERSIGHT FOR ANOTHER 4 OR 5 MONTHS. WE MUST PROCEED FORWARD WITH OVERSIGHT, AND IT NEEDS TO BE TRUE OVERSIGHT, NOT JUST WHAT THE PENSION FUNDS TELL US THEY WANT TO BE OVERSEEN ABOUT. WE NEED TO TAKE CHARGE.

WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. AND THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY AND ROTH, FOR POINTING OUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT ARE IN THESE FUNDS. I THINK THERE'S I MEAN, CITY MANAGER, CFO, YOU ALL WORKED SO HARD TO GET US TO A POINT. I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF COLLABORATION, TENSION, PRESSURE AROUND THE LAWSUIT THAT THE POLICE AND FIRE FUND FILED.

AND I KNOW YOU ALL WERE IN THE TRENCHES ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT, AND I.

I FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE SOME OF THAT TENSION IS BEING CARRIED FORWARD TO THIS ITEM.

AND THERE'S THERE'S NOTHING HARD HANDED ABOUT LOOKING AT NUMBERS AND ANALYZING NUMBERS.

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THEY HAVE MUCH MORE RECEPTIVITY AND UNDERSTANDING OF THIS IS A MATTER OF DOING BUSINESS.

THIS ISN'T SOMETHING TO BE THREATENED BY. THIS IS US DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEM RECEIVING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEM DECIDING WITH THEIR EXPERTISE WHETHER TO ACT ON THEM OR NOT.

IT'S NOT FORCING ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING. BUT I DO HAVE A SOLUTION.

I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS MOTION TO THROW THESE BIDS OUT AND START THIS PROCESS OVER AGAIN.

LET ME REMIND YOU, THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD RFP.

SO WE ALREADY HAVE GONE THROUGH ONE ITERATION OF IMPROVEMENTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN STRENGTHENED ONCE BEFORE.

BUT I DO HAVE A SOLUTION THAT I THINK COUNCIL WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THAT WOULD KEEP THE OVERSIGHT GOING AND CONCURRENTLY HEAR YOUR COMMENTS AND LET US WORK THROUGH THEM. WHILE WE DON'T TAKE OUR EYE OFF OF THIS BALL.

SO I HOPE, COLLEAGUES, THAT WE CAN REJECT THIS MOTION.

AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU A SOLUTION THAT I THINK COULD BE WORKABLE AND REALLY ADDRESS A LOT OF CONCERNS I'VE HEARD HERE TODAY.

MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THIS IS FOR EITHER JACK OR OUR CITY MANAGER.

TRYING TO GAUGE WHAT THIS. IF THIS MOTION WERE TO FAIL WHERE THAT PUTS US IN IN THIS PROCESS.

SO JUST REALLY TRYING TO GET SOME SOME GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR CFO.

ARE YOU ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THE PROCUREMENT AS IT RELATES TO THE AWARD THAT WE HAVE NOT BROUGHT? SO, AS MR. IRELAND EXPLAINED THE ACTION ITEM BEFORE YOU IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE REJECTION OF WHAT WE RECEIVED PREVIOUSLY, BECAUSE SO MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THAT WAS PUT ON THE STREET ORIGINALLY.

AND SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS THAT WE HAVE DEFINITELY I BELIEVE, BEGUN A NEW, BETTER, STRONGER WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH BOTH THE URF AND OUR POLICE AND FIRE PENSION.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN THAT RELATIONSHIP, BUT THIS WOULD BE A PROCESS THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY EXPEDITE TO WHERE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE UP TIME, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY CREATING THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMETHING ACROSS THE FINISH LINE TO BRING BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

SO IF IT'S ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE IF COUNCIL ACTUALLY APPROVED THE REJECTION, WHICH IS BEFORE YOU NOW, WE WOULD COME BACK WITH EITHER WITH A COUNCIL AD HOC PENSION COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD, GIVE THE COUNCIL THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THAT EVEN BEFORE WE GO BACK ON THE STREET, IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE BODY. BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY PROCEED AS COUNCIL DIRECTS.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE THE MOTION OR VOTE, PLEASE? YES. ITEM 49. ANYONE SEEING NONE. A RECORD VOTE HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

JOHNSON. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

CADENA. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. BAZALDUA. YES. COUNCILMEMBER.

BLAIR. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. BLACKMON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. ROTH. NO. COUNCILMEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER. RIDLEY. NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM.

WILLIS. NO. MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO. YES. MAYOR.

JOHNSON. YES. WITH TEN VOTING IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED.

THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM PLEASE.

[61. Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

AGENDA ITEM 61 IS APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THIS MORNING YOU HAVE. INDIVIDUAL AND A FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENT OR FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS.

YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION MARY KAY THOMAS IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART.

MISS THOMAS MEETS THE GENERAL PUBLIC SPECIAL QUALIFICATION ALSO TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

LISA FAULKNER DUNN IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

MISS FAULKNER DUNN MEETS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM AN ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATION.

SPECIAL QUALIFICATION TO THE VETERAN AFFAIRS COMMISSION.

JOE B DORFMEISTER IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

MR. DORFMEISTER MEETS THE PREVIOUS MILITARY SERVICE.

SPECIAL QUALIFICATION YOUR NOMINEE FOR FULL COUNCIL APPOINTMENT.

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DOWNTOWN CONNECTION TIF BY COUNCIL MEMBER. RIDLEY.

THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR. MOVE TO APPROVE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING.

NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM ONE. SECOND. 60 THREE IS GOING TO BE MOVED TO LATER IN THE MEETING.

OKAY. SO. THANK YOU. WE WILL

[70. Authorize the City Manager to execute a Fair Park Funding and Development Agreement with Fair Park First for the fundraising, design, development, and construction of the Community Park at Fair Park - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information)]

AGENDA ITEM 70 AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A FAIR PARK FUNDING AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH FAIR PARK FIRST FOR THE FUNDRAISING, DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMMUNITY PARK AT FAIR PARK.

YOU DO HAVE 14 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE REGISTERED TO SPEAK.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, TODD ATKINS MR. ATKINS, IS NOT VIRTUAL AND NOT IN THE AUDIENCE.

NOT NOT PRESENT. THE HONORABLE VALETTA FORSYTH LITTLE.

ADAM FORSYTH, LIL 622 BLAIR BOULEVARD. IT'S BEEN A LONG SEVEN YEARS FOR FAIR PARK.

IN THOSE YEARS, FAIR PARK FIRST COMPLETED AN UPDATED MASTER PLAN FOR FAIR PARK, RECRUITED A RENT PAYING TENANT FOR THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM.

SUCCESSFULLY CAMPAIGNED FOR A PUBLIC REFERENDUM TO ALLOW TOURIST TAXES TO PAY 300 MILLION TO IMPROVE SIX BUILDINGS. WE RESTORED PUBLIC ART ON THE EXTERIOR OF BUILDINGS WE RAISED SECURED 3.5 MILLION IN ARPA FUNDS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY BEING USED TO IMPROVE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM.

WE CREATED PROGRAMING COMMUNITY PROGRAMING, SECURED THE FUNDING TO UPDATE THE COTTON BOWL PLAZA, NOW KNOWN AS CORONA PLAZA, AND RAISED 33 MILLION TO BUILD A COMMUNITY PARK.

BUT FAIR PARK FIRST WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE WAITING.

THE COMMUNITY'S WAIT HAS BEEN MUCH LONGER AND MUCH MORE PAINFUL.

THE COMMUNITY SUFFERED THE INJUSTICE OF HAVING THEIR HOMES, BUSINESSES AND LAND TAKEN FOR A PARKING LOT. IT IS NOW TIME TO MOVE BEYOND THAT.

FAIR PARK FIRST IS FINALLY FREE OF OVG FAIR PARK FIRST HAS PUT TOGETHER AN EXPERIENCED TEAM OF STAFF, CONSULTANTS AND BOARD MEMBERS AND WE ARE READY AND THE COMMUNITY IS READY.

IT'S TIME TO MAKE GOOD ON A PROMISE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THE HONORABLE DIANE RAGSDALE.

TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH DALLAS, I STRONGLY URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD IMMEDIATELY WITH THE FAIR PARK COMMUNITY PARK. OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER COMMITTEE OR MORE DELAYS.

WE NEED ACTION. WE DESERVE EQUITABLE PUBLIC INVESTMENT, STRONG HEALTH PROTECTIONS AND A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EACH RESIDENT.

TO ABANDON THIS PROJECT NOW WOULD REPRESENT YET ANOTHER CLEAR BREACH OF PUBLIC TRUST.

AND I KNOW YOU AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT TRUST HAS TO BE EARNED.

THE PARK WAS THOUGHTFULLY PLANNED, VETTED AND HARD FOUGHT FOR BY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SOUTH DALLAS.

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THERE WERE MORE THAN 135 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, PARTICIPATION FROM 22 NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS SOUTH DALLAS, SIX FORMAL SURVEYS, AND COUNTLESS PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS.

PARKS ARE MORE THAN GREEN SPACES. PARKS SUPPORT THE PHYSICAL HEALTH, MENTAL WELL-BEING.

CLEAN AIR, CLEAN AIR, HEAT MITIGATION, AND SAFE SPACES FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING FAIR PARK FACE SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH CHALLENGES.

THEY ARE RECOGNIZED AS EXTREMELY UNHEALTHY AREAS AND HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS SEVERE URBAN HEAT ISLANDS, EXPOSING RESIDENTS TO HIGHER TEMPERATURES AND ASSOCIATED HEALTH RISKS.

FAIR PARK CONTRIBUTES TO THIS CONDITION. RESIDENTS OVERWHELMINGLY SELECTED PARKING LOT TEN AS THE PREFERRED SITE.

IMPORTANTLY, ALSO FUNDING FOR THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SECURED FROM A MIX OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SOURCES.

CLEAR EVIDENCE OF CONFIDENCE IN BOTH THE PROJECT AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICE.

WE CALL UPON THE CITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW TO HONOR ITS COMMITMENTS.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. EVA JONES.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS EVA JONES.

I RESIDE AT 2333 EUGENE STREET. THE TITLE THAT I HOLD IS HEAD SERVANT OF QUEEN CITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I AM HERE TODAY TO TAKE A VERY POSITIVE LEAP FORWARD.

I'M GOING TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR TIME THAT YOU HAVE LISTENED TO THE CRIES OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU AHEAD OF TIME FOR ALLOWING US TO SAY WE CAN HAVE A VITAL AND VIBRANT LIVING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO IN A COMMUNITY THAT HAS SUFFERED FOR YEARS. I SEE NO REASON IN A SET OFF OR A SETBACK.

I TOO HAVE WATCHED CITY HALL FOR 50 YEARS. I AM THE ONE THAT CRIES. THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE IN THIS CITY THAT FOR 50 YEARS HAS HAD A PROMISE THAT HAS BEEN BROKEN. ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS THE SAME TREATMENT THAT EACH AND EVERY COMMUNITY DESERVES, NOT ONLY IN THIS CITY, BUT IN THIS COUNTRY.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO GIVE MY TIME BACK.

I DEFINITELY WANT TO THANK MY COUNCILMAN, ADAM.

I CAN'T SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH. I SAY THANK YOU IN THE PRIVATE I'M SAYING THANK YOU IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE.

YOU HAVE BEEN THAT FOR US. THAT'S YOUR TIME WITHOUT YOU.

THANK YOU. STATE REPRESENTATIVE BENTON JONES.

HOLD ON. I GOTTA PULL UP MY STUFF. ALL RIGHT, ONE SECOND.

I JUST POPPED BACK IN TO THE MEETING. BUT IF YOU STAY READY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET READY.

ALRIGHT. WELL FIRST AND FOREMOST GOOD MORNING TO OUR MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM AS WELL AS OUR CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. FOR THE RECORD, I AM STATE REPRESENTATIVE BENTON JONES, AND I REPRESENT HOUSE DISTRICT 100.

AND I AM HERE TODAY TO, AGAIN, RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO EXECUTE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND START THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE COMMUNITY PARK AT FAIR PARK.

FIRST, I WANT TO EXTEND MY SINCERE CONGRATULATIONS, MY SINCERE THANKS TO COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM BAZALDUA FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND BRINGING THIS CRITICAL MATTER TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION. I ALSO LIKE TO THANK CHAIRWOMAN STEWART AND THE PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE FOR THE URGENCY YOU HAVE SHOWN IN MOVING THIS ITEM FORWARD.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANT TO THANK THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH DALLAS, PARTICULARLY ONES WHO ARE HERE TODAY AND WHO HAVE SHOWN UP TO COUNCIL MEMBER MEETINGS, WHO HAVE SHOWN UP TO PARK BOARD MEETINGS, WHO HAVE SHOWN UP IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN THE COMMUNITY HAS CALLED TO ASK ABOUT THIS PARK.

YOU STAYED AT THE TABLE, YOU GAVE INPUT AND TRUSTED THE PROCESS.

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AS STATE REPRESENTATIVE, I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF STEWARDSHIP SERIOUSLY.

WHEN THE STATE OF TEXAS MAKES A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE A DUTY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE COMMITMENTS ARE HONORED FROM A STATE PERSPECTIVE.

THIS IS ABOUT FISCAL ACCOUNTABILITY. WE CANNOT ALLOW TAXPAYER DOLLARS ALREADY ALLOCATED THROUGH STATE AGENCIES TO BE LEFT ON THE TABLE OR LOST WITHIN DELAY BEYOND BALANCE SHEETS. THIS IS ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR SOUTH DALLAS.

IT'S ABOUT EQUITY. IT'S ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES.

IT'S ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENT. SO THE VOTE FOR YOU TODAY IS MORE THAN JUST A PROCEDURAL STEP.

IT IS A DECLARATION OF VALUE. IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING STATE AND FEDERAL RESOURCES AND FINALLY DELIVERING FOR A COMMUNITY THAT HAS DONE EVERYTHING THAT IS ASKED FOR.

I RESPECTFULLY ASK EACH ONE OF YOU TO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

LET'S GET THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE AND GET SHOVELS IN THE GROUND.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, DANIEL WOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DANIEL WOOD, AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON THE DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION BOARD REPRESENTING DISTRICT SEVEN, WHERE FAIR PARK IS LOCATED. AND I AM HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY PARK PARK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, FAIR PARK HAS RECEIVED HISTORIC INVESTMENT.

WITH CLEAR PROMISE, THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH DALLAS AND FAIR PARK AREA WOULD FINALLY RECEIVE A TRUE COMMUNITY PARK.

THE PARK IS PLANNED, FUNDED, LARGELY SECURED, AND THE DESIGN REFLECTS EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY INPUT.

I ATTENDED DOZENS OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

RESIDENTS SHOWED UP, SPOKE UP, HELPED SHAPE THE PARK.

THE LOCATION AND THE FEATURES ARE REFLECTIVE OF THOSE VOICES.

THIS PROJECT IS READY YET PROGRESS STALLED NOT BECAUSE FUNDING OR LACK OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS ADVANCING OR IT WAS REFUSED TO ADVANCE TO A VOTE.

I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THIS COUNCIL, BECAUSE ENSURING THIS PROJECT COULD MOVE FORWARD AND RECEIVE THE CONSIDERATION IT DESERVES, APPROVING THIS AGREEMENT IS ABOUT MORE THAN BUILDING A PARK.

IT'S ABOUT KEEPING A COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE WAITED FAR TOO LONG FOR EQUITABLE ACCESS TO GREEN SPACE AND PUBLIC AMENITIES.

THIS PARK ALSO CARRIES DEEP SYMBOLISM. AS WE KNOW, THIS SITE WAS ONCE HOMES TO FAMILIES BEFORE CLEARED AND TURNED INTO A PARKING LOT.

APPROVING THIS PROJECT MEANS RETURNING THAT LAND NOT TO ASPHALT, BUT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

THIS VOTE IS ABOUT RESTORATION. IT IS ABOUT KEEPING A PROMISE TO THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH DALLAS AND FAIR PARK AREA.

PLEASE LET TODAY BE REMEMBERED AS A DAY THAT IS HONORED ITS PROMISE AND RETURN THE LAND TO ITS HIGHEST PURPOSE.

A PLACE FOR FAMILIES, NEIGHBORS, FUTURE GENERATIONS TO GATHER, GROW AND BELONG.

THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. TABITHA. WHEELER. REAGAN.

I'M SORRY. Y'ALL. I CAN'T FIND THE PHONE.

THERE YOU GO. I'M SORRY. Y'ALL. I'M TABITHA WHEELER REAGAN, 4412 MALCOLM X.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING US TO COME BEFORE YOU TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER. I PROMISE Y'ALL, I'M READY.

AS WE ALL KNOW THAT THE PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR OVER A DECADE TODAY.

WE. THANKS TO THE TIRELESS EFFORTS OF MANY. THE IDEA OF A COMMUNITY PARK IN SOUTHEAST DALLAS HAS BECOME AN ALMOST FULLY FUNDED, TANGIBLE REALITY. HOWEVER, THE COMMUNITY NOW FACES THE RISK OF YET ANOTHER DISAPPOINTING DELAY.

HOLDING THIS PROJECT ANY LONGER WOULD BE AN INJUSTICE NOT ONLY TO THE SOUTHEAST DALLAS COMMUNITY, BUT TO THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS. ACROSS OUR CITY, WE HAVE WITNESSED THE DEVELOPMENT OF SEVERAL COMMUNITY PARKS, FROM IMPROVEMENTS AT RIVERFRONT PARK TO TRANSFORMING FORMERLY INDUSTRIAL FLOOD PRONE AREAS IN WEST DALLAS AND HISTORICAL BOTTOM INTO VIBRANT SPACES LIKE TRINITY GROVE. WE ALSO HAVE BEAUTIFUL PARKS BUILT OVER FREEWAYS SUCH AS CLYDE, WARNER AND HALPERIN.

HALPERIN PARK THAT RECONNECTS NEIGHBORHOODS ONCE DIVIDED BY HIGHWAYS.

PARKS LIKE SANTA FE TRAIL AND KATY TRAIL ARE VITAL TO OUR CITY.

THEY NOT ONLY PROMOTE QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT PROVIDE SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE PLACES FOR FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS TO GATHER,

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IT IS IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MANY PREVIOUS PARKS CAME AT THE COST OF GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT OF BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES.

ADDITIONALLY, THE LAND FOR OUR PROPOSED PARK COMMUNITY PARK WAS ORIGINALLY TAKEN BY EMINENT DOMAIN FROM BLACK HOMEOWNERS TO CREATE FOR A PARK.

THIS PROJECT IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT IS BEING DEVELOPED IN AN AREA THAT IS NOT UNDERGOING GENTRIFICATION.

CRUCIALLY, THE SAME COMMUNITY THAT IS PROPOSED.

THIS PARK STANDS TO BENEFIT DIRECTLY FROM THE COMPLETION OF EVERY DAY.

DALLAS GREEN INITIATIVE CURRENTLY AWAITS TO BE YOUR TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU, HASANI BURTON.

YOUR MICROPHONE. I THINK THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. GREETINGS, MR. MAYOR AND HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.

TODAY I'M GOING OUT ON A LITTLE BIT OF FAITH THAT THIS BODY IS GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING TODAY.

AND SO I'M JUST COMING WITH THE SPIRIT OF GRATITUDE BECAUSE I'M SURE AS LEADERS, YOU ALL KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL LINE UP TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU DID WRONG OR WHAT THEY DON'T WANT. BUT SOMETIMES APPRECIATION AND THANKS ARE FAR AND FEW IN BETWEEN.

SO FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU. THANK THE HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DISTRICT SEVEN FOR THE ORGANIZATION, FOR THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, FOR BRINGING US TOGETHER BEHIND SOMETHING THAT WE DESPERATELY WANTED.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF LEADERSHIP WE NEED IN SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AND MADE THIS TYPE OF LEADERSHIP CONTINUE.

THANK YOU TO THE PARKS BOARD AND ITS STAFF, PARTICULARLY OUR PARKS MEMBER, OUR PARKS BOARD MEMBER, DANIEL WOOD. AND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO RETIRED PARKS BOARD MEMBER TIM DICKEY.

TIM DOESN'T KNOW KNOW THIS. I'VE KNOWN HIM SINCE MY VERY FIRST.

I'VE BEEN ON A LOT OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR THE CITY AND I WAS ON THE FIRST ONE WAS THE LANDMARK COMMISSION WITH TIM, AND I FOLLOWED WHAT HE'S HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY PARK AND HOW HE BROKE OUT, WHO WAS WRONG, WHO WAS RIGHT, WHAT HAPPENED. AND I APPRECIATE HIS COMMENTS ONLINE BECAUSE THAT HELPED GUIDE THINGS.

ALSO, THANK YOU FOR THE MAYOR FOR PRIORITIZING PARKS AND TO THIS COUNCIL FOR CUTTING THROUGH THE RED TAPE AND GETTING DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY. BUT THE BIGGEST THANKS IS TO THIS SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK COMMUNITY IN DISTRICT SEVEN.

WE LOVE EACH OTHER AND WE ARE UNITED, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE SO.

AND AS WE GO FORWARD, REMEMBER THESE WORDS SOUTH DALLAS RENAISSANCE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. LUBBOCK SMITH THE THIRD.

LUBBOCK SMITH THE THIRD. IT'S NOT PRESENT. EVELYN.

AMAYA.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS EVELYN AMAYA AND I RESIDE AT 1405 SOUTH FITZHUGH.

DALLAS 75223. DISTRICT TWO. ITEM 70. THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH FAIR PARK FIRST FOR THE FOR OUR COMMUNITY PARK IS MORE THAN A CONTRACT.

IT IS A CHOICE WHETHER SOUTH DALLAS FINALLY RECEIVED THE INVESTMENT.

GREEN SPACE AND EQUITY OUR FAMILIES HAVE LONG DESERVED.

FOR GENERATIONS, WE HAVE LIVED BESIDE ONE OF THE GREATEST ASSETS WITHOUT FULLY SHARING IN ITS BENEFITS.

I MAY NOT LOOK LIKE IT, BUT I HAVE RECENTLY JOINED THE CLUB.

I'M A PROUD GRANDMA OF TWO. SO MANY OF US, WHILE WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE PEDESTRIAN GATES TO BE CONSTANTLY OPEN SO THAT RESIDENTS LIKE MYSELF CAN TAKE OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN, EVENTUALLY GREAT GRANDCHILDREN, INTO THE PARK.

WE ARE REMINDED THAT ACCESS MATTERS. THIS VOTE IS FOR HEALTH, SAFETY AND DIGNITY.

GREEN SPACE REDUCES HEAT, SUPPORTS MENTAL HEALTH, AND STRENGTHENS OUR COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS ENDURED DECADES OF DISINVESTMENT. DISINVESTMENT. THIS PROJECT IS NOT AN OPTION.

IT IS ESSENTIAL. I ALSO STAND BEFORE YOU AS MDM CHAIR AT WOODROW WILSON, WHERE MANY SCHOOLS LIKE OURS ARE INTERTWINED DEEPLY WITHIN THE CLOSEST PARKS. OUR CAMPUS IS LANDLOCKED.

WE RELIED. WE RELY ON FIELDS FOR BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL AND SOCCER.

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I QUICKLY EMAILED DISTRICT TWO AND DISTRICT 14 REQUESTING A TRAFFIC STUDY AND COLLABORATION AMONG AGENCIES TO ESTABLISH SAFETY MEASURES AND PROTOCOLS. I RECEIVED AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT, BUT NO ACTION.

IN JANUARY, WE LOST A STUDENT. ONLY THEN WE DID SEE A RESPONSE.

WHEN I MET WARREN GARCIA'S MOTHER, SHE TOLD ME THAT MORNING WAS LIKE NO OTHER.

SHE KISSED HER SON GOODBYE AND SAW HIM AND WOULD SEE HIM AT HIS GAME.

INSTEAD, SHE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL THAT CHANGED HIS LIFE FOREVER.

PLEASE ACCEPT THIS VOTE. THANK YOU, NORMA SHAW.

HI. I AM HERE TODAY. WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS NORMA SHAW AND I'M HERE ONCE AGAIN ON BEHALF OF FAIR PARK ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH DALLAS AND DISTRICT SEVEN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ADAM BAZALDUA. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH FAIR PARK FIRST FOR THE COMMUNITY PARK AND TO URGE YOU TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY. AT MY LAST APPEARANCE, I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION WHAT IS THE CITY'S PLAN FOR DELIVERING THE COMMUNITY PARK THAT HAS BEEN PROMISED TO SOUTH DALLAS FOR YEARS? TODAY WE FINALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THAT QUESTION INTO ACTION.

THIS AGREEMENT REPRESENTS MORE THAN A CONTRACT.

IT REPRESENTS TRUST. IT REPRESENTS WHETHER THE CITY WILL HONOR ITS COMMITMENTS TO THE TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEXT TO FAIR PARK EVERY SINGLE DAY.

FOR DECADES, OUR COMMUNITY HAS SUPPORTED FAIR PARK AS A REGIONAL AND NATIONAL DESTINATION.

WE HOST MAJOR EVENTS. WE MANAGE AND INCREASE TRAFFIC, NOISE AND INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN.

WE WELCOME VISITORS FROM ACROSS THE CITY AND BEYOND, AND WE DO THIS WITH PRIDE.

BUT TOO OFTEN THE BENEFITS OF FAIR PARK HAVE NOT FLOWED BACK INTO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

A COMMUNITY PARK IS NOT A LUXURY. IT IS A BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT IS A SAFE PLACE FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY, FOR SENIORS TO WALK, FOR FAMILIES TO GATHER, AND FOR NEIGHBORS TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS.

IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH INVESTMENT AND ECONOMIC INVESTMENT AND A STATEMENT OF RESPECT ACCORDING TO PREVIOUS PLANS AND PUBLIC REPORTING.

THIS PARK HAS ALREADY BEEN THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED WITH COMMUNITY INPUT.

FUNDING TIMELINES HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, DEADLINES HAVE BEEN SET.

YET WE ARE HERE, STILL ASKING FOR FOLLOW THROUGH.

EVERY DELAY SENDS A MESSAGE, WHETHER INTENTIONAL OR NOT, THAT SOUTH DALLAS CAN WAIT, THAT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS SECONDARY, THAT OUR NEEDS ARE NEGOTIABLE. BUT OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO KEEP PROVIDING THAT, PROVING THAT WE DESERVE WHAT IS ALREADY PROMISED.

PLEASE GIVE US THIS PARK. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I'LL GO BACK TO TODD ATKINS. TODD ATKINS VIRTUAL ATKINS ALL THE WAY FROM EAST TEXAS THIS MORNING.

I WANT TO SAY TO THIS COUNCIL, TO THE HONORABLE MAYOR.

WE ARE MR. ATKINS. I'M SORRY. THIS VIDEO IS NOT.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO. YOU MAY CONTINUE. I'M SORRY.

ALRIGHT. WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE. A WISE MAN SAID THESE ARE THE TIMES THAT TRY MEN'S SOULS.

WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND RAISING THE VOICES OF SOMETIMES THE VOICELESS TO OUR POLITICAL LEADERS.

BUT WE HAVE A TOTAL AGREEMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, AGREEMENT AMONG OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND THE TIME IS NOW TO MR. ATKINS WE AS A CITY, YES, WE AS A CITY WANTED TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PARK IS BUILT. IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BUILD UPON THE THE TRUST BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY.

THE TIME IS NOT TOMORROW. THE TIME IS NOW. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR ELECTED LEADERS, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO REPRESENT THIS COMMUNITY, WHO HAVE STOOD WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT JUST A PART OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT WE WERE AT THE TABLE.

AND SO I AM GRATEFUL AND I'M HONORED AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL BE DONE TODAY.

THANK YOU. SHONDA BROWN. SHONDA BROWN IS NOT VIRTUAL AND NOT IN THE CHAMBER. SHONDA BROWN IS NOT PRESENT.

DELPHINE. GENIUS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DELPHINE GANNIS.

I'M A THIRD GENERATION HOMEOWNER IN SOUTH DALLAS.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BERTRAND COMMUNITY GROUP AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN DISTRICT SEVEN.

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THIS PROJECT STARTED IN 2018. IT HAS GONE THROUGH EVERY HOOP AND LOOP IMAGINABLE.

THE KLYDE WARREN PARK WAS BUILT IN THREE YEARS OVER A FREEWAY.

MIND YOU, WHEN I FIRST HEARD OF THIS PROPOSAL, I WONDERED HOW IN THE WORLD ARE THEY GOING TO BUILD A PARK OVER A FREEWAY? BUT IT WAS DONE OVER THE WOODALL RODGERS FREEWAY IN THREE YEARS.

THAT HAD TO BE SOME KIND OF ENGINEERING FEAT.

AND HERE WE ARE, NINE YEARS LATER, WE ARE STILL TRYING TO GET OUR COMMUNITY PARK BUILT ON A FLAT SURFACE.

IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE RESIDENTS. EVERY I DOTTED, EVERY T CROSSED AND OVER 82% OF THE FUNDING HAS ALREADY BEEN RAISED. SO WHAT IS THE REAL HOLDUP? WHY ALL THE DELAYS? OUR AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY BLACK AND BROWN.

I KNOW THIS DELAY IS POLITICAL, BUT IT IS ALSO BEGINNING TO SMELL OF RACISM.

WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING WE'VE NEEDED TO DO. WE'VE DONE ALL THE WORK.

WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE MEETINGS OR DISCUSSIONS.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S YOUR TIME. SORRY. THAT'S YOUR TIME.

YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED. OH, IT'S ALL RIGHT. WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL. CHERYL WALKER.

NO, THERE'S A BASE AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR MICROPHONE.

HELLO? YES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LISA WALKER.

I HAVE PROPERTY AT 3607 HAMBURG COURT, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75215.

AND I'M ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF PARTNERSHIPS AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR FOREST FORWARD TO OUR MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MYSELF, ALONG WITH MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, HAVE ATTENDED MANY MEETINGS TO GET THIS PART DONE WITH EXCITEMENT AND ENTHUSIASM.

WHILE PARKS GO UP IN OTHER AREAS, WE AWAIT THE PARK THAT HAS BEEN PROMISED TO US.

MANY EXCITING THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN SOUTH DALLAS, AND WE WANT THE PARK TO BE ONE OF THOSE EXCITING THINGS.

WE HAVE THE PLAN, WE HAVE MOST OF THE MONEY AND THE TIME IS NOW.

WE NEED GREEN SPACES AS THEY SUPPORT OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS, AND THEY ADD TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO OUR COUNCILMAN AND HIS TEAM, ADAM BAZALDUA.

AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE SITTING HERE, ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE TODAY.

AND THANK YOU TO THE PARK BOARD. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN AND I SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES ALL YOUR SPEAKERS FOR ITEM 70.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU.

MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER? YES, SIR. I FIRST WANT TO START JUST BY SAYING A HEARTFELT THANK YOU.

I'LL TELL YOU, THAT WAS REALLY HARD TO GET THROUGH WITHOUT GETTING EMOTIONAL.

ANY OF YOU ALL WHO KNOW THE HISTORY OF SOUTH DALLAS AND THE HISTORY OF AT LEAST THE TENURE THAT I'VE BEEN HERE TO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGHOUT SOUTH DALLAS. EVERY CORNER OF SOUTH DALLAS. AFTER WE'VE MADE MONUMENTAL STRIDES WITH AN AREA PLAN.

LOOKING AT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND NOW CELEBRATING TOGETHER A PIECE OF QUALITY OF LIFE.

I JUST CAN'T THANK YOU ALL ENOUGH FOR UNIFYING, FOR FIGHTING, FOR ADVOCATING, FOR NOT ACCEPTING.

NO THIS IS WHAT MAKES BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WORTH IT.

BEING ABLE TO DELIVER TANGIBLE RESULTS TO THE RESIDENTS WHO ELECTED ME TO BE HERE ON THEIR BEHALF.

AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE'RE DOING TODAY. WE'RE NOT HERE BECAUSE A PARK WAS CASUALLY PROPOSED.

WE'RE HERE BECAUSE FIVE YEARS OF ENGAGEMENT, PLANNING, VALIDATION AND FUNDRAISING HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED MORE THAN $33 MILLION HAS BEEN RAISED TO SUPPORT THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND LONG TERM STEWARDSHIP, INCLUDING 1.3 FROM TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE.

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THANK YOU AGAIN. STATE REPRESENTATIVE 8.6 IN FEDERAL AWARD.

THANK YOU, CONGRESSWOMAN JASMINE CROCKETT, NEARLY 7 MILLION IN PRIVATE FUNDING.

THANK YOU, HEATHER STEVENS, FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.

AN ADDITIONAL 2.5 MILLION COMMITTED FOR POST PROJECT SUPPORT ALREADY.

LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE, BEFORE I GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND, I JUST WANT TO SAY A HUGE THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE COMMUNITY, EVERYONE THAT'S TAKEN TIME TO SHOW UP. AND I KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF YOU REPRESENT A CONSTITUENCY YOURSELF, A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE AS WELL.

AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL'S VOICES ARE, HERE TO SPEAK FOR THEM AS WELL.

AND I FELT SOUTH DALLAS WITH ALL OF Y'ALL HERE.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU TO VENTON AND JASMINE HAVING REPRESENTATION ON ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT WHO ARE WILLING TO GET DOWN DIRTY ON THE LOCAL LEVEL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BRING THOSE TANGIBLE RESULTS IS HUGE. IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP AND HOW YOU OPERATE YOUR OFFICES.

I DO WANT TO SAY A THANK YOU TO THE PARK BOARD.

I KNOW THAT THINGS MAY HAVE BECOME A LITTLE UNORTHODOX, BUT ULTIMATELY WE DO AGREE ON THE GOAL.

WE JUST DIDN'T AGREE ON THE PATH TO GET TO THE GOAL.

BUT ONCE WE GET THERE WE'RE READY TO CONTINUE TO HOLD HANDS TOGETHER, PROVIDE THE NECESSARY OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR A WIN FOR THE SOUTHERN DALLAS COMMUNITY. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THANK YOU TO SOMEONE WHO WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN THE ROOM IN A WHILE, BUT BRIAN LEWALLEN WHO WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FAIR PARK FIRST AND GOT US STARTED.

IS ONE WHO TOOK A LOT OF DAGGERS. AND I'LL TELL YOU, HE TOOK DAGGERS FROM MYSELF.

AND SOME OF THOSE DAGGERS WERE TALKING ABOUT AND SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE SPOKEN.

AND HE AND I TOLD HIM ABOUT HOW NECESSARY IT WAS TO GET THE, THE PROPER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND THAT WE DIDN'T ACCEPT CHECKING A BOX FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE WORK THAT HE PUT IN TO GET US TO THIS POINT.

I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY WE WOULDN'T BE HERE WITHOUT IT.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO HIS LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU TO THIS COUNCIL, OF COURSE, FOR PRIORITIZING THIS.

A HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR DONORS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.

THIS IS HISTORIC, NOT JUST FOR PROVIDING THIS PARK FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO FOR BRINGING IN THE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY WHO HAS NOT BEEN AS PRESENT AS WE WOULD HAVE LOVED THEM TO IN THE PAST. BUT THAT SPEAKS TO THIS BEING A NEW DAY IN SOUTH DALLAS.

HUGE THANK YOU TO THE ATTORNEY'S CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I WILL BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU I'M HAPPY TO MAKE IT Y'ALL'S FAULT.

ANYTIME WE CAN MAKE IT Y'ALL'S FAULT. THIS IS ONE THAT Y'ALL REALLY ROLLED YOUR SLEEVES UP AND DID ABOVE AND BEYOND TO GET US TO THIS PLACE. AND ULTIMATELY, THAT'S SERVING THE RESIDENTS THAT WE ALL SERVE AS PUBLIC SERVANTS.

I KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE ATTORNEYS IN THE OFFICE, BUT Y'ALL ARE A PART OF MAKING THOSE CHANGES FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

PARK STAFF, RYAN AND AND JOHN, I THINK Y'ALL WERE PUT IN DIFFICULT POSITIONS THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK Y'ALL FOR ALLOWING FOR US TO GET HERE.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, BEFORE I GO TO MY OTHER ROUNDS, I WILL GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.

I WILL HAVE MY OTHER ROUNDS. COLLEAGUES. KATHY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AS THE CHAIR OF PARKS AND TRAILS.

AGAIN, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TRADITIONAL ROUTE TO GET TO YOUR COMMITTEE, BUT THAT DIDN'T STRAY YOU AWAY FROM THE END GOAL AND AND REALLY ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU.

I WILL ASK FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE ITEM TODAY.

THE CITY GETS CRITICIZED FOR MANY THINGS IN ONE AREA THAT WE THAT WE DON'T ARE TYPICALLY PARKS.

THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST PARK SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE A STRONG PARK DEPARTMENT STAFF AND A VERY CAPABLE PARK BOARD.

THEY TOOK THE NECESSARY STEPS AND THOUGHTFUL STEPS TO ENSURE THAT WE DELIVERED A WORLD CLASS PARK.

THEY HAVE MADE THIS PROJECT BETTER, AND I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK THEM FOR BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR PARK SYSTEM.

WE WOULD NOT BE HERE WITHOUT THE HARD WORK OF THE PARK BOARD AND THE PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE.

THEY WORKED HARD TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE APPROVALS AND OVERSIGHT.

I WANT TO APPLAUD THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE DISTRICT FOR HIS DEDICATION, COMMITMENT AND FOR STANDING UP AND FIGHTING FOR HIS COMMUNITY.

I HAVE THE HONOR OF REPRESENTING AREAS JUST AROUND FAIR PARK, AND SO TODAY IS A GREAT DAY FOR SOUTH DALLAS AND FAIR PARK.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN. STEWART, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. I THINK I'VE ALREADY REFERENCED THAT. IT'S BEEN A LONG WEEK. AND IN MY HOUSE, WE HAVE THIS PHRASE. I'VE USED UP ALL MY GOOD, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE KIND OF DONE, RIGHT.

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BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THAT IT WAS AN HONOR TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT.

I ENJOY GETTING PEOPLE AROUND THE TABLE, ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND WORKING THROUGH ISSUES AND QUESTIONS AND TRYING TO NAVIGATE HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

IT WAS GREAT TO WORK WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

OBVIOUSLY, HE HAS A PASSION, A PASSION FOR THIS PARK AND FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE WERE ABLE TO RELATIVELY EASILY, I THINK, WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE HURDLES AND GET GET ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO I'M, I FEEL FORTUNATE THAT I GOT TO WORK ON IT.

I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE RESULTS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO TO BRINGING MY GRANDCHILDREN, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I'VE GOT SOME OF THOSE. BRINGING MY GRANDCHILDREN TO THE PARK IN JUST A FEW YEARS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I, TOO, WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF WORDS AND THINGS GOING BACK AND FORTH, BUT THE ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN THE MOST CONSISTENT IS THE FACT THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU REPRESENTING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BEEN RIGHT HERE EACH AND EVERY TIME TO SUPPORT THIS.

SO I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR DOING WHAT WE SHOULD ALL BE DOING, AND THAT IS REPRESENTING OUR COMMUNITIES AND SHOWING UP.

SO GIVE YOURSELVES A HAND FOR THAT. I MEAN, I'M SORRY.

YOU CAN'T PARDON ME. MAYOR. MY BAD. I'M GETTING RELAXED.

PARDON ME SIR. PARDON ME. I SAID, WELL, GIVE YOURSELVES A SNAP.

BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE SINCERELY. WE HAD A LOT OF OPPOSITION ABOUT THIS AND AGAIN, SOME OF THE OPPOSITION. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT IT IS SOME OF THE OPPOSITION ACTUALLY CAME FROM PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT WAS A BIT TELLING TO ME. SO AGAIN, I WILL BE SUPPORTING COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA IN DOING THIS, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS LONG OVERDUE.

WE ALL KNOW THE HISTORY OF FAIR PARK, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS WRITING SOME OF THOSE WRONGS.

AND AGAIN, I'M VERY PROUD OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO.

AND IT IS AT THIS LOCAL LEVEL WHERE THESE ARE THE TYPE OF VICTORIES THAT WE CAN CELEBRATE.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP. AND THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA, CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, AND EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THIS.

AND AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, MR. MAYOR. THE JOKE THERE IS WE HAVE A RULE.

THERE'S A COUNCIL RULE AGAINST OUTBURSTS FROM THE AUDIENCE. AND HERE WE ARE ENCOURAGING THE OUTBURST. THAT'S OKAY. IT'S ALL RIGHT. IT'S ALL RIGHT, MISS KADINA. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. ONE OF MY FAVORITE QUOTES IS NEVER DOUBT THAT A SMALL GROUP OF THOUGHTFUL, COMMITTED CITIZENS CAN CHANGE THE WORLD. BY MARGARET MEAD, SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT A LOT IN WEST DALLAS, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT TODAY AS THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH DALLAS SPOKE TODAY.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO ADVOCATING FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP AND WORKING TOGETHER.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

AND ALSO CHAIR STEWART FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

ALSO, THANK YOU, STATE REPRESENTATIVE CROCKETT, REPRESENTATIVE VINTON JONES.

THIS WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. AND SO TODAY IS A VERY GOOD DAY.

I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS.

MR. RESENDEZ YOU FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MISTER MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I CHIME IN AND EXPRESS MY CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

COMMUNITY MEMBERS, OBVIOUSLY. AND ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF FOLKS KNOW FOR ME PERSONALLY, AT LEAST, I FEEL LIKE I GREW UP IN SOUTH DALLAS.

YOU KNOW, I'M FROM PLEASANT GROVE, GREW UP OFF 175 MY WHOLE LIFE.

AND I'VE GONE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHEN DEAD MAN'S CURVE WAS STILL THERE.

GOING DOWN SECOND AVENUE BEFORE PLEASANT GROVE WAS WET.

BEFORE I AND AND EVEN TODAY. I DRIVE BY FAIR PARK EVERY SINGLE DAY WHEN I'M DROPPING OFF MY KIDS TO SCHOOL.

HEADED TOWARDS EAST DALLAS. THERE'S A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR SOUTH DALLAS.

I'VE LEARNED A LOT. A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS IN PLEASANT GROVE MOVED FROM SOUTH DALLAS TO SOUTHEAST DALLAS, AND SO I SPENT A LOT OF TIME GROWING UP ON METROPOLITAN DIXON PARK ROAD, VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH WITH THE STREETS OF SOUTH DALLAS.

AND SO THIS IS AN EXCITING DAY FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR ME AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHAIR MENDELSOHN FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IS THERE A FORENSIC AUDIT HAPPENING TO DISCOVER EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MISSING 5.7 MILLION? GOOD AFTERNOON, MA'AM. RYAN O'CONNOR, DALLAS PARKS.

THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES. THERE IS A FORENSIC AUDIT THAT HAS BEEN UNDERWAY.

WE HAVE RECEIVED A PRELIMINARY AUDIT THAT'S STILL IN DRAFT FORM THAT WE INTEND TO BRING FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL AND SHARE THOSE RESULTS SOON.

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OKAY. DOES IT SEEM TO BE GOOD SENSE TO ACTUALLY SEE THE RESULTS OF A FORENSIC AUDIT? MEANING AN AUDIT THAT'S LOOKING FOR APPROPRIATE ACCOUNTING PROCEDURES TO HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND REPORTED BEFORE THE AWARD? WELL WE HAVE INITIATED THAT AUDIT SOME TIME AGO.

IT'S. IT'S TAKEN. POINT OF ORDER. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

I THINK THE LINE OF QUESTIONING IS NOT GERMANE TO THE TOPIC.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. I THINK THAT'S GETTING OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE FOR AN AUDIT THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY ON THE MOTION BEFORE US TODAY.

WELL, THE QUESTIONS OF THE AWARD AND I'M ASKING ABOUT THE TIMING OF IT.

LET'S ANSWER THE QUESTION AND THEN LET'S MOVE ON AFTER THAT.

YES, MA'AM. AS I WAS SAYING, THE AUDIT HAS BEEN INITIATED SOME TIME AGO.

IT'S TAKEN QUITE A BIT OF TIME TO GET IT IN A PLACE WHERE IT IS NOW.

IT WAS A LABOR INTENSIVE EFFORT RELATED TO A LOT OF PAPER RECORDS.

BUT AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE PRELIMINARY AUDIT AND WE INTEND TO SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL VERY SOON.

SO IN THINKING OF THIS AWARD DID THIS GO THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THIS AWARD DID NOT KNOW BECAUSE IT'S A NONPROFIT. THERE ARE IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THIS MORE THAN I CAN, BUT THERE ARE SOME CARVE OUTS THAT THAT MAKE THIS AN APPROPRIATE PATH.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT, CITY ATTORNEY? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

I'M GOING TO ASK CONNIE TANKERSLEY AND CHRISTINE LANDERS, WHO ADVISED ON THIS CONTRACT TO EXPLAIN WHY IT DID NOT NEED TO GO THROUGH PROCURE.

EXCUSE ME, THROUGH PROCUREMENT. HI. CONNIE TANKERSLEY WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

IT'S NOT A CONTRACT THAT'S SUBJECT TO PROCUREMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO EXPENDITURES BEING MADE BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THIS IS ALL MONEY. THE PARK IS BEING BUILT 100% WITH NON CITY FUNDED SOURCES.

SO IT WOULD MEAN IT WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO ANY PROCUREMENT LAWS.

SO SHOULD THEY NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT, WOULD THEY BE ELIGIBLE TO COME TO THE CITY FOR FUNDING? NOT UNDER THE CURRENT TERMS OF THE OF THE CONTRACT.

CITY GENERAL FUND MONIES. BOND MONIES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE SOURCED TO THEM.

AND WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION WITH THE CONTRACT IN THE NONPROFIT BASED ON ANY EXPERIENCE THEY HAVE HAD CARRYING OUT ANY KIND OF CAPITAL PROJECT? SO THE WAY THAT THE CONTRACT WORKS IS THAT THEY HAVE TO SHOW PROOF OF FUNDS SUFFICIENT TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE CONTRACT THAT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN THEY ARE REQUIRED UNDER STATE LAW BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILDING ON CITY PROPERTY TO PROVIDE PAYMENT AND PERFORMANCE BONDS.

SO IF IN THE UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PERFORM, THE CITY CAN UTILIZE THE PERFORMANCE BOND AND ASK THE SURETY TO STEP IN OR ALLOW US TO STEP IN AND COMPLETE IT UNDER WITH THE MONIES THAT THEY ENSURE.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING THAT BECAUSE I WILL SAY IT'S A VERY HIGH THRESHOLD THAT WE'VE ASKED OF THEM TO DO FUNDRAISING BEFORE THIS UNUSUALLY LARGE. AND THAT NOW EXPLAINS WHY DID WE GET CLARIFICATION ON THE AS PART OF THE CONTRACT OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNANCE OF FAIR PARK FIRST AND THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM THOSE DUTIES SATISFACTORILY? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU. IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION RELATED TO GOVERNANCE, AND HAS IT BEEN DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PURPOSE? THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THAT SPECIFIC TOPIC.

AT THE COMMITTEE YESTERDAY, THAT QUESTION CAME UP AS WELL, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD AND THE TEAM THAT'S BEEN ASSEMBLED TO DELIVER THE PROJECT.

AND AS WAS DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS COMFORT IN THE TEAM THAT'S BEEN ASSEMBLED AND THE AND THE CURRENT CONSTITUTION OF THE FAIR PARK FIRST BOARD. OKAY. AND HAVE THERE BEEN CHANGES IN HOW THE PARKS BOARD HAS HAVE YOU INSTITUTED NEW CONTROLS ASSOCIATED WITH FAIR PARK FIRST AND OVG.

SO AS A AGAIN, AS DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, THIS CONTRACT, THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HAS A GREAT DEGREE OF CONTROL.

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THERE'S ALL SORTS OF REPORTING REQUIREMENTS THAT THAT ARE INCLUDED, INCLUDING TO THIS, TO THIS BODY COMMITTEES, PARK BOARD, ETC.. FREQUENCIES. THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROLS AND CHECKS TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT IS DELIVERED FOR THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY. WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY FIRST THANK YOU TO THE PARK BOARD FOR PUTTING THOSE CONTROLS IN.

I WISH THEY HAD BEEN THERE BEFORE. THERE WERE ISSUES, BUT STILL, IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO THANK YOU TO THE PARK BOARD. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL THAT DOESN'T WANT THE PARK TO HAPPEN, INCLUDING ME. I DO WANT IT TO HAPPEN. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIMING AND THAT WE REALLY SHOULD BE WAITING FOR THIS FORENSIC AUDIT.

THIS THING IS GOING TO PASS, AND IT IT WILL BE A CELEBRATION.

AND FAIR PARK NEEDS A LOT OF HELP. AND THIS PARK IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

AGAIN, I'M VERY HESITANT TO SUPPORT IT WITHOUT THE FINDINGS OF THE FORENSIC AUDIT, BUT I AM GOING TO BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO I HAVE A FEELING WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK HERE AT SOME POINT.

I PROBABLY WON'T BE ON THE COUNCIL, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK FOR MONEY.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HIT YOUR TIMELINE. I THINK IT'S OVERLY AGGRESSIVE, PROBABLY UNNECESSARILY OVERLY AGGRESSIVE.

AND I CERTAINLY HOPE WHEN WE GET THIS FORENSIC AUDIT, THERE'S NOTHING TO MAKE US RECONSIDER WHAT'S HAPPENED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I AM SUPPORTING THIS. I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, NOT ONLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF DALLAS TO HAVE PARKS AND TRAILS, BUT ALSO FOR SOUTH DALLAS RIGHT HERE AT FAIR PARK.

YOU GUYS WAITED A LONG TIME. YOU'VE DONE THE WORK.

NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE REWARD. SO I TOO WILL BE.

I'M NOT GOING TO EXPAND ON A LOT OF WORDS. I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT'S ABOUT TIME.

CHAIR JOHNSON THANK YOU. MAYOR OLD SONG SAID.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING SINCE THIS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, BUT I KNOW CHANGE IS GOING TO COME.

AND SO I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

MY SLOGAN IN DISTRICT FOUR IS BUILDING THE COMMUNITY WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE DONE. YOU'VE BUILT THE COMMUNITY WITH THE COMMUNITY AROUND THIS PROJECT.

AND THIS IS THIS IS WONDERFUL. YOU YOU HAVE ONE OF MY FAVORITE, MISS RAGSDALE.

AND MY OFFICE LOVES HER. HER PICTURES UP IN MY OFFICE.

SO WHEN I SEE HER ON YOUR TEAM, THAT MEAN YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.

AND SO THANK YOU TO OUR STATE REP BEN JONES, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

CHURCH STEWART FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

JUST MAKE SURE I GET THE INVITE TO THE CELEBRATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA THREE MINUTES.

AND IF YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR MINUTE AFTER THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I DO WANT TO JUST CLARIFY. THERE WERE SOME THINGS PUT ON RECORD THAT WERE INACCURATE AND FAIR PARK FIRST ACTUALLY HAS UNDERWENT A TOTAL OF NINE AUDITS. THE FORENSIC AUDIT, I BELIEVE, THAT WAS REFERENCED BY A COLLEAGUE ACTUALLY IS IN REFERENCE TO THE OPERATING PARTNER WHO WE HAVE SINCE TERMINATED AN AGREEMENT WITH IN OVG.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT CONTEXT, AND ANYTHING LESS IS PRETTY DISINGENUOUS TO SEND TO THE PUBLIC.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE IF WHICH EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO ATTEND ALL COMMITTEES, THOSE OF YOU WHO DID YESTERDAY WOULD SEE THAT THE, THE DEAL POINTS AND THE SAFEGUARDS THAT WERE PUT IN ACTUALLY DID NOT COME FROM THE PARK BOARD.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY IT BECAUSE THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO HAVE DONE, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD A PROCEDURAL MOTION. MOTION TO DISCHARGE IT AND PUT IT TO DT.

THOSE SAFEGUARDS CAME IN FROM WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEYS DIRECTLY WITH CHAIR STEWART MYSELF, AND VETTING THEM WITH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THAT'S WHAT WAS APPROVED.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY. SO I DO APPRECIATE THE KUDOS FOR THOSE GUARDRAILS.

COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN. THE LAND PROPOSED FOR THIS PARK WAS ONCE A THRIVING NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL HOMES WERE FORCEFULLY TAKEN THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN TO MAKE WAY FOR PARKING LOTS. WE CANNOT UNDO THAT HISTORY, OF COURSE, BUT WE CAN HONOR THE FAMILIES WHO WERE DISPLACED AND THE COMMUNITY STILL FACING DISPARITIES TODAY BY PROVIDING THEM WITH A SPACE WHERE THEY CAN RECLAIM WHAT WAS TAKEN FROM THEM.

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AND THAT'S THE FURTHEST THING FROM THE TRUTH.

WHILE WE MAY NOT HAVE AGREED ON EXACTLY EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS, I BELIEVE DEEPLY THAT WE ALL SHARE THE SAME VESTED INTEREST AND THAT SEEING THIS CITY THRIVE. FOR THAT, I CAN'T BE UPSET AND I NEVER WILL BE.

WE ARE MEANT TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE. THAT IS WHAT STRONG LEGISLATIVE BODIES DO.

SOMETIMES THAT ACCOUNTABILITY CAN FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT IT STRENGTHENS OUTCOMES.

I AM CONFIDENT THAT OUR RELATIONSHIP WILL GROW STRONGER BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN TO EVERYONE WHO CAME.

THANK YOU FOR CELEBRATING WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY A WIN.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES WHO DID YOUR DUE DILIGENCE TO SEE WHAT LED US TO THIS PLACE, AND FOR CELEBRATING THE WIN WITH THE SOUTH DALLAS COMMUNITY.

LET'S GET THIS PART GOING. THANK YOU. BE BILLED.

SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

IT IS NOW 1:49 P.M. PM ON FEBRUARY THE 25TH. SORRY.

EXCUSE ME. IT IS NOW 12:49 P.M. ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2026.

[CLOSED SESSION:]

DO I NEED TO READ THEM? ITEM NUMBER 66 UNDER SECTION 551.071 AND 089 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 67 AND UNDER SECTION 551074 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 68, AND WE WILL RETURN AT APPROXIMATELY 130.

THANK YOU. I DON'T HEAR SPEAKER. OKAY. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS FIVE FIVE, 1.07155, 1.07255, 1.074 AND 551.089 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AND AT 1:53 P.M.

ON FEBRUARY THE 25TH, 2026, WE HAVE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

WE WILL NOW GO INTO RECESS UNTIL 230. ALL RIGHT.

THE TIME IS 253 AND WE HAVE RETURNED TO SESSION BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH OUR BUSINESS.

I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE FOLKS FOR SOME BIRTHDAY ANNOUNCEMENTS, SO IF YOU HAVE ONE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR.

COUNCIL. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE ONE OF MY BIRTHDAY BUDDIES.

WE. THERE'S SEVERAL FEBRUARY PEOPLE, BUT THE FIRST ONE I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE IS ADAM BAZALDUA.

TODAY, ADAM IS 19 YEARS OLD AGAIN. LEGAL TO DRINK? NO, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP HIM AT 19. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

BUT BUT LET ME. OH. GO AHEAD. NO NO NO NO. GO AHEAD.

NO. I HAVE THE PLEASURE AND THE HONOR OF CELEBRATING COUNCILPERSON KATHY STEWART, AND SHE WOULDN'T TELL ME WHAT BIRTHDAY THIS IS.

I KNOW, AND I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE ONE MORE. COUNCILMEMBER WEST AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE AMAZING LORI BLAIR'S BIRTHDAY IS THIS MONTH. WHOO! ALRIGHT. DOES SOMEONE WANT TO LEAD US IN BIRTHDAY WISHES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, MADAM CITY SECRETARY. THANK YOU, MR.

[62. Authorize a five-year cooperative purchasing agreement for a cloud-based video management and analytics platform, Verkada, for the Dallas Police Department with Sigma Surveillance, Inc. dba STS360 through the Department of Information Resources cooperative agreement - Not to exceed $4,631,204.78 - Financing: Confiscated Monies-Federal Fund ($946,304.96) and General Fund ($3,684,899.82) (subject to annual appropriations) (This item was deferred on January 28, 2026)]

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BARRETT JOHNSON IS NOT VIRTUAL. YOU'RE IN THE AUDIENCE.

NO SPEAKER. MR. MAYOR, IS THERE A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM? YES, MR. MAYOR, MOVE TO APPROVE. I'LL MAKE A MOVE.

I'LL MAKE A I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY THIS ITEM AND ASK ADMINISTRATION TO PUT IT BACK OUT FOR RFP.

SECOND, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. CHAIR JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE REMARKS? YES, I DO. FIVE MINUTES. I MOVE THIS TO ASK FOR A BRIEFING.

THIS BECAUSE WE NEVER GOT BRIEFED ON IT. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S THE CODE.

CHAIR, THAT WE'RE DOING GOOD, DOING BUSINESS WITH GOOD BUSINESSES.

SO I WANT TO READ SOME OF THE VIOLATIONS THAT I FOUND CONCERNING AVOCADO.

ON AUGUST THE 30TH, THE US FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION ANNOUNCED A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT WITH SECURITY COMPANY AVOCADO TO RESOLVE A LAWSUIT FILED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. RICARDO WAS ACCUSED OF FAILING TO IMPLEMENT ADEQUATE SECURITY MEASURES TO PROTECT USER DATA, RESULTING IN DATA BREACHES AND VIOLATING THE CAN-SPAM ACT THROUGH ITS EMAIL MARKETING PRACTICE.

AS A PART OF THE SETTLEMENT, RICARDO WILL PAY A 2.95 MILLION CIVIL CIVIL PENALTY IMPLEMENT AND COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION SECURITY PROGRAM REFRAIN TO MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS ABOUT PRIVACY AND DATA SECURITY, AND COMPLY WITH CAN-SPAM FOR EMAIL MARKETING.

RICARDO, A CALIFORNIA BASED SECURITY COMPANY, SELLS SECURITY EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.

BETWEEN 2019 AND 2021, RICARDO SOLD OVER 240,000 CAMERAS, WHICH WERE CONNECTED TO HIS NETWORK PLATFORM, COLLECTING DATA SUCH AS IP ADDRESSES, CAMERA LOCATIONS, USERNAMES AND VIDEOS.

RICARDO EXPERIENCED AT LEAST TWO DATA BREACHES IN RECENT YEARS.

IN DECEMBER 22ND, 2020, HACKERS EXPLOITED SECURITY FLAWS ON SERVERS TO INSTALL MALWARE AND LAUNCH CYBER ATTACKS.

IN MARCH 2021, HACKERS GAINED ADMINISTRATION ACCESS AND EXTRACT THE DATA FROM OVER 150 CAMERAS, INCLUDING SENSITIVE FOOTAGE FROM HOSPITAL CLINICS DAYCARE CENTERS.

FOLLOWING THESE BREACHES, THE FTC INVESTIGATED AND FOUND MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS.

THE DOJ TO FILE A LAWSUIT TO THE US DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA.

HERE, WHEN WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT. IT SAYS THE KEY SETTLEMENT.

IT SAYS THEY HAVE COUNCILMAN VIOLATION. THE FIRM WAS CHARGED WITH SENDING MILLIONS OF MARKETING EMAILS WITHOUT PROPER UNSUBSCRIBE OPTION, FAILING TO HONOR OPT OUT REQUEST AND OMITTING A PHYSICAL POSTAL ADDRESS.

SECURITY MANDATES DECEPTIVE PRACTICES. THE FTC ALSO CHARGED WITH MISREPRESENTING HIS COMPLIANCE, COMPLIANCE AND HIPAA AND PRIVACY SHIELD FRAMEWORKS, AND FAILING TO DISCLOSE THAT EMPLOYEES HAD POSTED POSITIVE PRODUCT REVIEWS.

RICOTTA ACCEPTED THE SETTLEMENT WITHOUT ADMITTING OR DENYING THE ALLEGATIONS.

THERE IS SOME MERIT TO THIS. WE CANNOT HAVE IN THIS TIME THAT WE'RE LIVING IN SECURITY BREACHES.

IT'S TOO SERIOUS. THE THEY JUST WAS HAD A SETTLEMENT IN AUGUST 3RD, 30TH, 2024 OF $2.95 MILLION.

IT IS TOO SENSITIVE FOR US TO TAKE THE RISK. THIS IS NOT GOOD BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT GOOD BUSINESS PRACTICE. AND THEREFORE, I SENT A MOTION TO DENY THIS ITEM.

AND AS ADMINISTRATOR, TO PUT IT BACK OUT FOR RFP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU.

I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THAT MOTION. AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL VOTE IT DOWN.

AND THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. THIS ITEM WAS ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGENDA AND DISCUSSED.

I'M WONDERING IF DPD CAN COME EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THE ITEM IS.

HELLO. MARTIN RIOJAS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS A COOPERATIVE PURCHASING AGREEMENT FOR A CLOUD BASED VIDEO MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND ANALYTICS PLATFORM.

IT IS WITH SIGMA SURVEILLANCE, AND THEY ARE A RESELLER OF A VERKADA PLATFORM.

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AND WITH THAT SYSTEM WILL ALLOW US TO MONITOR CAMERA FEED IN THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.

IT'S NEWER CAMERA EQUIPMENT THAN WHAT WE HAVE HIGHER RESOLUTION.

IT PROVIDES ANALYTIC ABILITIES FOR US TO DETECT ANYTHING UNUSUAL, SUCH AS WRONG-WAY DRIVING OR STREET TAKEOVERS. IT WILL PROVIDE REAL TIME ALERTS INTO THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER, SO THAT THE OFFICERS AND THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER CAN PROACTIVELY BE NOTIFIED OF THOSE SITUATIONS WITHOUT ANYONE CALLING 911.

AND SO IT IS IT IS REPLACEMENT OF OUR CAMERAS, WHICH ARE END OF LIFE.

IT'LL MOVE THE VIDEO FOOTAGE INTO THE GOVERNMENT CLOUD WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE RIGHT NOW.

TODAY, IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, ALL THE VIDEO GOES INTO SERVERS AND IT RUNS ACROSS THE CITY NETWORK.

AND IT IT CREATES A A BANDWIDTH ISSUE. THIS PLATFORM WOULD MOVE THE VIDEO INTO THE CLOUD WHICH IS PROTECTED, WHICH WOULD RELIEVE A LOT OF PRESSURE FROM OUR NETWORK.

IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE OFFICERS TO INSTANTLY PUT VIDEO INTO EVIDENCE.COM, WHICH DOES NOT HAPPEN TODAY IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT. IF AN OFFICER WANTS TO SEE A PIECE OF VIDEO, THEY HAVE TO DOWNLOAD IT, THEN THEY HAVE TO REVIEW IT MINUTE FOR MINUTE.

AND THEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING OF EVIDENTIARY VALUE, THEY PUT IT INTO EVIDENCE.COM, WHICH IS AN UPLOAD.

ALL OF THAT TAKES SIGNIFICANT TIME IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT.

WE SPEND EVERY DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY, APPROXIMATELY 15 HOURS OF STAFF TIME AFTER DOWNLOADING, REVIEWING OR UPLOADING IN THE NEW ENVIRONMENT.

WITH THE VERKADA SYSTEM, ALL OF THAT CAN BE SHORTENED DOWN TO ABOUT 30 MINUTES A DAY.

SO IT'S IT'S A HUGE TIME SAVINGS IN OUR OPERATION JUST BECAUSE OF THE THE NATURE OF THE SYSTEM BEING IN THE CLOUD.

IT THE REAL TIME ALERTS WILL PROVIDE THE OFFICERS THE PROACTIVE ALERTS THAT THEY NEED AND THE END OF LIFE CAMERAS THAT ARE TODAY FAILING EVERY DAY IN MANY SITUATIONS. WE HAVE CAMERAS THAT ARE OFFLINE NOT WORKING 20 TO 25% OF THOSE CAMERAS.

WE THAT'S THOSE ARE INSTANCES WHERE WE NEED VIDEO AND WE CAN'T DO THE JOB THAT WE GOT TO DO.

SO THIS VIDEO, THIS THIS AGENDA ITEM WOULD REPLACE ALL THOSE CAMERAS WITH NEWER CAMERAS AND LET US BE IN THE CLOUD, WHICH IS MORE EFFICIENT AND PROVIDE US THE ANALYTICAL ABILITY THAT WE NEED.

THANK YOU. HOW ESSENTIAL IS IT TO HAVE THESE CAMERAS IN PLACE BEFORE FIFA? I'LL LET ONE OF THE OFFICERS WHO WORK IN THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER OR WHO ARE IN THE OPERATION, RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION. I'M BRANDON GRIFFIN, ADMIN SERGEANT OF THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER INFUSION CENTER.

AS DEPUTY DIRECTOR MENTIONED, IT IS VERY TIME CONSUMING RIGHT NOW.

TO HAVE THIS IN PLACE BY FIFA WOULD BE ESSENTIAL FOR US.

WE CAN REVIEW VIDEO IN A MATTER OF MINUTES. WHERE NOW IT TAKES HOURS FOR US TO DO THAT.

IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR VEHICLE, PARTICULAR PERSON, IT'S A MATTER OF JUST SEARCHING THAT WITHIN THE PLATFORM TO GET INSTANT RESULTS.

WHEREAS NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT VIDEO MINUTE FOR MINUTE TO BE ABLE TO FIND THAT VEHICLE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR IT OR THAT PERSON WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEM.

SO GOD FORBID THERE'S A PERSON WEARING A GREEN JACKET WHO DROPS OFF AN EXPLOSIVE DEVICE.

THIS WILL ALLOW YOU TO TYPE INTO THE SYSTEM. I'M LOOKING FOR SOMEONE IN A GREEN JACKET CARRYING A PACKAGE, AND IT WILL IMMEDIATELY SEARCH THIS. THE VIDEO, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. IT CAN BE SET UP TO SEARCH EVERY SINGLE CAMERA THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR THAT PARTICULAR SET OF CRITERIA THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, WHICH WOULD THEN PERHAPS ALLOW YOU TO THWART THE ADDITIONAL ATTACK OR TO CAPTURE THE SUSPECT.

ABSOLUTELY. WE COULD MORE QUICKLY LOCATE THE SUSPECT IN THAT SITUATION.

YES, MA'AM. WHY DID YOU PICK THIS SYSTEM OVER OTHERS? SERGEANT RINEHART, DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, OPERATIONAL TECHNOLOGY. THIS WASN'T A WE ARE JUST GOING TO PICK ONE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. WE DID LOOK AT OTHER VENDORS, OTHER SOLUTIONS.

BUT WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS. SIR, CAN YOU MOVE THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER? THANK YOU. MY APOLOGIES.

I DIDN'T WANT TO SCREAM INTO IT. WE WE DID LOOK AT OTHER VENDORS OTHER SOLUTIONS, YOU KNOW, OVERLAYS OF JUST SOFTWARE OR THEN ALSO SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE.

AND WE HAD A VERY SPECIFIC LIST OF REQUIREMENTS IS, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED A CLOUD BASED.

WE WANTED IT TO BE WEB BROWSER ACCESSIBLE. WE ALSO WANTED A DECENTRALIZED SYSTEM.

SO WITH THE SYSTEM THAT WE WANTED, WE NEEDED SOMETHING THAT EVERY CAMERA WAS ITS OWN GATEWAY OR ITS OWN CONNECTION TO THE CLOUD FOR RECORDING.

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SO IF WE WERE TO GET ATTACKED BY RANSOMWARE OR ANY KIND OF HACK IN THE FUTURE, IT WOULDN'T YOU COULDN'T GO TO ONE SERVER AND SHUT IT DOWN AND WE'D BE OFFLINE FOR 100 PLUS CAMERAS. IT WOULD ALLOW, YOU KNOW, DECENTRALIZED.

SO EACH ONE OF THOSE CAMERAS WOULD HAVE TO GET HACKED OR TAKEN OFFLINE FOR IT TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE ATTACKERS.

RIGHT NOW, IT ALL GOES BACK TO MULTIPLE SERVERS.

AND AS THOSE SERVERS, IF THEY ARE HACKED OR RANSOMWARE OR LOCKED DOWN WITH ENCRYPTED ENCRYPTION TECHNOLOGY, THEN WE WOULD LOSE ACCESS TO ALL THOSE CAMERAS. SO ONE POINT OF FAILURE FOR EACH, YOU KNOW, CAMERA SERVER AND ALL THE CAMERAS THAT THEN TIE BACK TO THAT SERVER.

SO THE THERE WAS A LEGITIMATE ISSUE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON BRINGS UP THAT HAPPENED WITH THIS VENDOR IN 2020. AND SO DECENTRALIZING THAT WAS ONE THAT ONE OF THE REMEDIATIONS AND CHANGES THEY MADE SO THAT IT COULDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

THAT'S ALREADY OPERATED LIKE THAT. I BELIEVE WHAT THE ISSUE WAS BACK IN 2020 AND 2021 WAS THEY HAD A SUPPORT SERVER, A SUPPORT ABILITY TO GET INTO THEIR SYSTEM FOR THAT VIA THAT SUPPORT SERVER.

AND THEN THEY DID TAKE THAT OFFLINE AND DO NOT FOLLOW THAT PRACTICE ANYMORE AFTER THAT 2020, 2021 INCIDENT. BUT THE DECENTRALIZATION WAS OUR REQUIREMENT AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MOVING FORWARD FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.

AND SO DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE, HAVING NOW INVESTIGATED THAT INCIDENT AND OUR RISK THAT YOU DON'T FEEL THAT THAT IS AN ISSUE ANY LONGER. THAT IS CORRECT.

AND AND PART OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IS GOING THROUGH THE IT'S TAK REVIEW PROCESS.

SO IT WASN'T JUST US DECIDING THAT THE SECURITY WAS ROBUST ENOUGH.

WE HAD CITY ITS REVIEW AND GO THROUGH THEIR NORMAL TAK REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH IS REVIEWING THE THEIR DIFFERENT SECURITY CERTIFICATES AND AND DIFFERENT FEDERAL STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR CYBER SECURITY.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE PROCUREMENT, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S EVALUATED THIS FOR CYBER SECURITY.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THEN CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF I THINK I HAD YOU LIST 20 CITIES AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE TO MY COLLEAGUES OF THE CLIENT LIST OF THIS COMPANY? YEAH. SO JUST VERY BRIEFLY. SO THE CITY OF IRVING, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, HARRIS COUNTY, BEXAR COUNTY, CITY OF LOS ANGELES, CITY OF LAS VEGAS, NYPD, SEATTLE PD.

SMU PD. HIGHLAND PARK ISD. RICHARDSON ISD. PLANO ISD.

THE DALLAS ZOO AND THE DEEP ELLUM ASSOCIATION, AND THEN ALSO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.

THE FEDERAL DISTRICT COURTS. THE FEDERAL NATIONAL PARKS AND NASA, JUST TO NAME A FEW.

AND THOSE ARE CURRENT CLIENTS? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

COLLEAGUES, THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL ITEM THAT WE NEED FOR NOT JUST OUR SECURITY WITH FIFA, BUT OUR SECURITY TODAY.

AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON'S CONCERN, AND I WILL SAY OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT AND ALL OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WORKING WITH A COLLABORATIVE STILL NEED TO DO THEIR OWN HOMEWORK, BECAUSE WHEN HE ASKED, DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT INCIDENT? Y'ALL DIDN'T KNOW? AND WE NEED TO ALWAYS KNOW THE REPUTATION RISK OF ANY FIRM THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS HAS ALL BEEN REMEDIATED AND THAT MANY, MANY JURISDICTIONS AND GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE CONTRACTED WITH THEM, AND I'M COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THAT.

BUT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, AND WE ACTUALLY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD NOW.

I BELIEVE INTELLIGENCE SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO ACTUALLY INSTALL THEM THEMSELVES. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THE OPERATIONAL TECHNOLOGY UNIT WILL BE ABLE TO REPLACE ALL THE EXISTING ONES WITH THE VERKADA CAMERAS THEMSELVES OR OURSELVES.

AND WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR BEING ABLE TO DO THAT BEFORE WE GET TO FIFA IN JUNE? WE'VE DONE THE THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AND IF APPROVED TODAY, EVEN WITH A TWO WEEK TURNAROUND FOR A CITY SECRETARY TO APPROVE, WE'D BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE BY JUNE 9TH. BUT THAT'S THE ENTIRE INTERSECTION CAMERA REPLACEMENT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE IMPLEMENTATION WHEN WE START OUT AROUND THE FIFA LOCATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE INSTALLED FIRST AND THEN BRANCH OUT FROM THERE.

BUT THE PLAN IS AND IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IS FOR IT TO BE ALL LIVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR THOSE INTERSECTION CAMERAS BY JUNE 9TH.

THANK YOU. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE THE FUNDING SOURCE.

IT IT SAYS ESSENTIALLY WE'RE EXHAUSTING CONFISCATED FUNDS FIRST.

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YES. THIS IS MARTIN REAL, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

OVER FINANCIAL. THAT YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR. THE FIRST YEAR WOULD BE PAID FOR OUT OF CONFISCATED FUNDS.

IS THERE A REASON WHY WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO UTILIZE CONFISCATED FUNDS IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, AND JUST CLOSING NECESSARY GAPS WITH GENERAL FUNDS, AND WHY WE'RE ONLY USING THEM IN THE FIRST YEAR.

SO WE DID OVER THE SUMMER WHEN WE WERE WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ON OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR, WE WERE PLANNING OUT VARIOUS EXPENSES AND HOW WE WOULD PROCURE HOW WE WOULD PAY FOR VARIOUS ITEMS. WE HAVE THE CONFISCATED FUNDS, HAVE A PLAN, ESSENTIALLY PROCUREMENTS THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO COME TO COUNCIL IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS THAT WILL SPEND FUNDS DOWN.

SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO FUNDS THAT ARE LIKE FREE OUT OUTSIDE OF A PLAN TO SPEND.

NO, I'M AWARE THAT YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY ABLE TO FORECAST.

HOWEVER, I KNOW THAT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S REOCCURRING AND THAT YOU WILL ACCRUE MORE CONFISCATED FUNDS IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S NECESSARILY A SPECIFIC OR FIXED DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED, BUT I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS BE EXPENDED FROM THE CONFISCATED FUNDS SOLELY.

AND THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO GO INTO GENERAL FUND, THAT IT WOULD BE TO CLOSE IN A GAP.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WE'RE ONLY DOING THAT FOR ONE YEAR.

WE THE. SO THE CONFISCATED FUNDS, WE CAN'T PREDICT THE IT IS NOT A PREDICTABLE REVENUE SOURCE, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT ON AND PREDICT FUTURE YEARS OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE HAVE.

SO I'M AWARE OF THAT. THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID.

I KNOW THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN FORECAST ON A FIXED NUMBER, BUT THERE CAN BE LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE CONFISCATED FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED FIRST AND ONCE EXHAUSTED, THEN GOING TO OUR GENERAL FUND INSTEAD OF MAKING THIS INITIAL YEAR PAID FOR BY CONFISCATED FUNDS, AND THEN AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO GENERAL FUND AND ESSENTIALLY FREEING UP ANY FUTURE CONFISCATED FUNDS INSTEAD OF UTILIZING THOSE.

I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE WEREN'T LOOKING AT SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD HELP SPREAD THE FINANCIAL BURDEN OF THIS SIGNIFICANT COST.

IF I COULD JUMP IN FOR JUST A MINUTE. AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

TYPICALLY FOR APPROVAL OF AGENDA ITEMS THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS.

IT'S A ONGOING EXPENSE. AND SO WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT USING A VOLATILE POTENTIAL REVENUE SOURCE.

IF COUNCIL WANTS TO ADD SOME LANGUAGE TO THE RESOLUTION THAT SAYS THAT AS WE RE-UP THAT ANY CONFISCATED FUNDS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EARMARK THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS THIS, BUT STILL REMEMBER THAT THERE COULD BE STILL A GENERAL FUND EXPENSE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING. BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING. THAT IS SOMETHING. IT'S JUST BACK TO THE WAY WE DO OUR BUDGET PROCESS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTIME ITEMS ARE BEFORE YOU, THAT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT'S INCLUDED, AND THERE IS A CONSISTENT FUNDING SOURCE ALREADY ESTABLISHED, BECAUSE IF NOT, YOU GET ALL TYPES OF ITEMS PROJECTING THINGS, AND THEN WE GET INTO THESE RELATIONSHIPS THAT THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO COVER THOSE CONTRACTS. SO I THINK YOU COULD YOU COULD DO THAT AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DO. SO I GET THAT. I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT EXISTS NOW THAT IS ONLY FOR. IT'S BASICALLY SAYING WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH CONFISCATED FUNDS TO TO DEAL WITH THE OTHER YEARS OF THIS CONTRACT.

AND THEN AND IT SPECIFIES THAT THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD GO TO THE GENERAL FUND.

I'M ONLY ASKING FOR THAT TO BE DONE ANNUALLY INSTEAD OF JUST USING THE CONFISCATED FUNDS THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, WE'RE NOT EVEN TOUCHING THEM.

AND IT'S SOLELY A BURDEN ON OUR GENERAL FUND.

SO I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT LANGUAGE ADDED TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS ITEM.

IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO, WE WOULD JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S APPROVED BY YOU ALL FOR US TO ADD THAT MORE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ABOUT CONFISCATED FUNDS FIRST, AND THEN ANY GENERAL FUND EXPENSE WOULD COME SECONDARY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE DO HAVE A MOTION TO DENY ON THE FLOOR.

AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS IS TO DENY THE ITEM.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED? OKAY. OKAY.

ITEM FAILS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVE TO APPROVE, PLEASE.

THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIR MIDDLETON. I DON'T HAVE ANY DISCUSSION.

WELL, I DO. SO IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT FUNDING SOURCES I'M WONDERING, I SEE JAX BACK THERE,

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IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET AND WE'RE IDENTIFYING SOURCES OF FUNDS FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, WE ALWAYS BUILD THAT INTO WHATEVER NUMBER WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BID, OR WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED INTO THE WAY WE FUND AND SUPPORT PROGRAMS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO TYPICALLY IT'S ALREADY BUILT INTO THEN THEIR TOTAL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET ALLOCATED IN THEIR BUDGET FROM THE PRIOR YEAR BASED ON WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY RECEIVED.

PERHAPS I CAN STATE IT DIFFERENTLY. ARE THERE DOLLARS IN THE CONFISCATED FUNDS THAT ARE FROM YEARS PRIOR? I DO BELIEVE SO, BUT I'LL HAVE TO LET THE CFO CONFIRM THAT.

WELL, MARTIN CAN ACTUALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SO THE THE CONFISCATED FUND IS A MULTI-YEAR FUND.

SO IT'S IT'S NOT IT'S NOT LIKE A GENERAL FUND THAT EXPIRES YEAR AFTER YEAR.

IT'S IT'S MULTI-YEAR. SO WE WILL HAVE FUNDS CASH THAT MIGHT ROLL IN, IN, IN A CERTAIN YEAR, BUT BUT THERE MIGHT BE YEARS WHERE THERE'S NOTHING.

SO IT IS VERY UNPREDICTABLE. AND SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THOSE FUNDS WILL ACCUMULATE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

AND RIGHT NOW WE BASICALLY HAVE FUNDS THAT ARE EARMARKED TO BE SPENT BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

I GUESS LET ME SAY IT THIS WAY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THAT AS A POT OF OF FUNDING FOR ALL THINGS? ABSOLUTELY. WE WE INCLUDED INTO OUR WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ALLOCATIONS ACROSS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, WE USE THAT IN HOW WE DEVELOP WHAT THEY NEED IN THE BUDGET.

WE ACTUALLY INCORPORATE THOSE FUNDS. SO I'LL SHARE IN COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA POINT THAT I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE US A LANGUISHING OF DOLLARS IN THAT AREA AND THEN USE GENERAL FUND.

HOWEVER, I ALSO DON'T WANT TO BUDGET BASED ON AN UNKNOWN.

SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE SAYING WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S IN A POT TODAY.

WE WANT TO ALLOCATE IT TO THIS AND FILL IN WITH GENERAL FUND.

AND I THINK YOU'RE ACTUALLY SAYING THE SAME THING.

SO I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR AN AMENDMENT.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT, THAT'S FINE. I DON'T THINK IT'S HARMFUL.

I THINK THAT'S THE DISCRETION OF THE MANAGER AND BUDGETING.

SO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORT OF APPROVING THIS ITEM.

COUNCILMEMBER BAZALDUA. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES AND TO INCLUDE THAT THE SAME FINANCING MODEL OR FUNDING MODEL WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS, AND THAT GENERAL FUND WOULD ONLY BE USED IF THERE ARE NO CONFISCATED FUNDS TO BE EXHAUSTED.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL RIGHT. WE SUPPORT THAT.

I THINK THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THINK THE SPIRIT OF THE CONVERSATION IS. THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. I JUST I APPRECIATE THAT.

I REALLY THINK THAT WE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING.

I JUST BELIEVE THE WAY THAT IT'S READ AND THE WAY THAT WE WERE GOING TO APPROVE IT, SPECIFIED THAT THE CONFISCATED FUNDS WERE ONLY USED IN YEAR ONE, AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T LOCKING OURSELVES IN AND WE HAD LATITUDE.

IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF PASSED ON THIS, BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE MY, MY COLLEAGUE FOR BRINGING THIS ITEM UP.

AND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO BUSINESS AND DOING BUSINESS WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE, THEIR PAST BEHAVIORS AS WELL AS YOU KNOW, THEIR PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE SERIOUS AS WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

AND THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THIS ITEM, BUT IT'S ALL OF THEM THAT WE TEND TO GET INTO BUSINESS WITH CERTAIN COMPANIES.

GRACEY. YEP, I'M DONE RIGHT NOW. THE THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALRIGHT. CHAIR JOHNSON SO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE ON RIGHT NOW IS ONLY ABOUT THE FUNDING MECHANISM ON HOW THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE PAID FOR. CHAIR. JOHNSON. OKAY. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL FIRST VOTE ON COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA MOTION TO ON THE FUNDING SOURCE. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? NAY. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO THE UNDERLYING ITEM FOR CHAIR MIDDLETON.

CHAIR JOHNSON, DID YOU HAVE. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. WELL, THIS IS AGAIN SOMETHING THAT I'VE RESEARCHED AS CHAIR MENDELSOHN SAID THAT WHEN WE BROUGHT

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I THINK THERE WAS A CO OP, IS WHAT I BELIEVE.

ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER GIBSON EXPLAINED TO ME.

AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A BRIEFING ON IT. THAT'S WHY WE REQUESTED IT.

AND THE COUNCIL VOTED FOR IT TO GO TO THE COACH.

I RAISED MY SON TO OPERATE WITH INTEGRITY. WHEN YOU DO BUSINESS, DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. WHEN YOU GO OUT, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE UPHOLDING YOURSELF IN AN INTEGRAL MANNER.

AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS BECAUSE THIS IS HOW I TRULY BELIEVE. A PERSON THAT LOOKS LIKE ME, WITH THIS BACKGROUND AND THIS FINDING WOULDN'T EVEN BE INVITED TO THE TABLE.

WHEN WE SAY AND DO GOOD BUSINESS, WE MEAN DO GOOD BUSINESS.

THIS IS NOT GOOD BUSINESS TO ME AND I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.

SO MANY TIMES WE TELL OUR CHILDREN, DO THIS, DO THIS RIGHT.

MAKE SURE YOU WALK WITH INTEGRITY. DO IT SO NO ONE CAN SAY ANYTHING.

AND TO SEE THIS HAPPENING. I'M TELLING MY COLLEAGUES, SECURITY BREACHES ARE A VERY SERIOUS MATTER AND WE HAVE FINDINGS OF THIS RECENT JUST PAST. THEY JUST HAD TO PAY A SETTLEMENT IN OCTOBER.

I'M SORRY. AUGUST 30TH, 2024 AT 2.94 IS TOO FRESH AND THEREFORE I CANNOT SUPPORT IT.

I SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS. THERE ARE OTHER BUSINESSES OUT THERE THAT DO THE SAME THING THAT ARE CLEANER WITHOUT THESE FINDINGS ON THEM, AND SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOOD BUSINESS.

AS THE CHAIR OF GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY, I HAVE TO ADVOCATE FOR CLEAN AND AND AND GOOD BUSINESS.

AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD DECISION, GOOD BUSINESS.

SO THEREFORE I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS THE WRONG THING TO DO.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

SO AS I WAS SAYING THIS IS I'M PIGGYBACKING ON THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THESE PROCESSES.

I KNOW EACH ONE OF THESE GOES THROUGH A SYSTEM FROM A BACKGROUND CHECK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THERE'S A I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE YET, BUT PERHAPS A DIFFERENT LAYER OF A BACKGROUND CHECK AS WE TALK ABOUT ENGAGING WITH SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES. AGAIN, THIS IS ONE, BUT THERE COULD BE I DON'T CARE IF IT WAS A CONSTRUCTION OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

SOME OF THESE FOLKS ARE BRINGING BAGGAGES THAT ARE MISREPRESENT WHO WE ARE AS A CITY.

AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS I WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXPLORE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT HIS COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED TO DO IN ADDITION TO OTHER THINGS.

BUT THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT I'D LIKE TO TAKE BACK TO YOUR COMMITTEE AND EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, AND HOW WE CAN DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER IN THE BACKGROUND CHECKS.

THANKS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE NOW VOTING ON CHAIR MIDDLETON'S MAIN MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? NAY. OKAY. I'M SORRY, I HEARD TWO NOS.

THREE. LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE THE NOTES. I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, COUNCILMEMBER BLAIR, AND WHO'S AND COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROETZEL FOR NOTES.

THANK YOU. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 63.

[63. Authorize the Dallas Public Facility Corporation to (1) acquire, develop, and own Good Homes Dallas, a mixed-income, multifamily development to be located at 6950 North Stemmons Freeway, Dallas Texas 75247 (Project); and (2) enter into a seventy-five-year lease agreement with Good Homes Communities, LLC or its affiliate, for the development of the Project - Estimated Revenue Foregone: General Fund: $16,837,803.00 (see Fiscal Information) (This item was deferred on November 12, 2025 and January 28, 2026) *In alignment with Dallas Housing Resource Catalog.]

YOU DO HAVE FIVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

MICHAEL SCHNEIDER IS NOT PRESENT. GARNER. RAWLINGS.

KEEGAN TYLER IS NOT PRESENT. MELANIE GAMBLE NOT PRESENT.

AND DANIEL MARTIN HAS CANCELED. SO GUNNAR ROLLINS.

APOLOGIZE. MY PANTS GOT MESSED UP IN MY BOUTTE THERE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

GUNNAR ROLLINS, FOUR EIGHT, ZERO SEVEN SWISS AVENUE, DISTRICT TWO.

MAYOR. AND THE COUNCIL. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF GOOD HOMES.

WHO HAS A PFC PROPOSAL APPLICATION WITH Y'ALL? WE ARE EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WE'VE SPENT THE TIME SINCE DECEMBER TO GET TO KNOW MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS, SPECIFICALLY ARLINGTON PARK.

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WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS THANKS TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM OR MAYOR.

AT THIS MOMENT, I APOLOGIZE. LEADERSHIP. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION WITH, WITH THE MAYOR MORENO'S OFFICE HIS TEAM HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH AS WELL AS THE ARLINGTON PARK COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE'LL BE BACK ON APRIL 8TH. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO TO DO THAT.

AND GENUINELY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER CADENA, I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL APRIL 8TH, 2026.

SECOND. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT TO SAY THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO THE DEFERRAL.

THANK YOU. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR.

[64. Authorize (1) the ratification of payment to Services of Hope Entities, Inc. for the emergency food distribution services that were necessary to preserve and protect the public health and safety of city residents performed from November 23, 2025 through January 13, 2026; (2) partial amendment to Sections 1 and 2 of Resolution No. 23-0711 to increase the contract amount for Services of Hope Entities, Inc. from $900,000.00 to $1,125,000.00 and extend term of the contract from November 23, 2025 to May 31, 2026; and (3) Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to the subrecipient agreement with Services of Hope Entities, Inc., as amended, approved as to form by the City Attorney, for food distribution services to (a) extend the term of the Agreement from November 23, 2025 to May 31, 2026; and (b) increase the funding amount in an amount not to exceed $225,000.00 (increasing the total contract amount from $900,000.00 to $1,125,000.00 - Not to exceed $225,000.00 - Financing: Coronavirus State and Local Fiscal Recovery Fund (This item was deferred on January 14, 2026) *In alignment with Drivers of Opportunity.]

THE ONE. THE RATIFICATION OF PAYMENT TO SERVICES OF HOPE ENTITIES, INC.

FOR THE EMERGENCY FOOD DISTRIBUTION SERVICES THAT WERE NECESSARY TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY OF CITY RESIDENTS.

PERFORMED FROM NOVEMBER 23RD, 2025 THROUGH JANUARY 13TH, 2026.

TWO PARTIAL AMENDMENT TO SECTIONS ONE AND TWO OF THE RESOLUTION, NUMBER 23 230711, TO INCREASE THE CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR SERVICES OF HOPE ENTITIES, INC., FROM $900,000 TO $1,125,000 AND EXTEND TERM OF THE CONTRACT FROM NOVEMBER 23RD, 2025 TO MAY 31ST, 2026. AND THREE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT WITH SERVICES OF HOPE ENTITIES, INC., AS AMENDED, APPROVED AS TO FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR FOOD DISTRIBUTION SERVICES TO A EXTEND THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT FROM NOVEMBER 23RD, 2025 TO MAY 31ST, 2026 AND BE INCREASED THE FUNDING AMOUNT IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $225,000. TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT FROM $900,000 TO $1,125,000, NOT TO EXCEED $225,000. YOU YOU DID HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

PAVEL BRIT HAS CANCELED. THEREFORE, MR. MAYOR, THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS OR NO SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS. I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL STAFF HAS COMPLETED THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.

ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? YES. WE HAD SET TODAY TO HAVE THIS COME BACK TO US, BUT THE WORK THAT THEY WERE NEEDING TO DO HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.

AND RATHER THAN SET A DATE, WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT THEY HAVE TIME TO DO THE WORK ON THIS BEFORE IT COMES BACK.

CHAIR MIDDLETON FIVE MINUTES. I'D LIKE TO KNOW, HOW LONG HAS STAFF KNOWN THAT THEY HAD THESE DOLLARS TO DISPERSE? LIKE, WHEN DID WE RECEIVE THE FUNDS? WHEN DID THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, SPECIAL PURPOSE? GOOD AFTERNOON. THE SOURCE OF FUNDS ARE ARPA FUNDS.

SO THIS IS, IN FACT, FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR SINCE 2021.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHEN THEY WERE ALLOCATED TOWARDS THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT.

JESSICA, I'M WONDERING IF YOU CAN I CLARIFY, ARE THOSE CRF FUNDS OR THOSE ARPA FUNDS? THESE ARE YEAH. THE THE THEY'RE YEAH, THEY'RE THE STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS THAT WERE PART OF THE ARPA PROGRAM ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2020 CAME TO THE CITY, WE ALLOCATED THEM FOR VARIOUS PURPOSES IN 21, I BELIEVE.

SO WE'RE IN 2026? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL REPROGRAMING OF ARPA DOLLARS, AS YOU MAY RECALL. AND THIS IS PART OF AN ORIGINAL ALLOCATION FOR THESE TYPES OF SERVICES, THERE'S ABOUT OUT OF THE $355 MILLION, THERE'S ABOUT $9 MILLION OR SO THAT IS BEING WORKED THROUGH TO FINISH OUT THAT TOTAL $355 MILLION.

AND DO THESE HAVE SPECIFIC USE OR ARE THESE AVAILABLE FOR ANY USE? THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE FOR ANYTHING. THEY ARE, BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF THE ORIGINAL ARPA GRANT FUNDS THAT WE DID NOT REALLOCATE THROUGH THE SWITCHING OUT WITH FIRE PAYROLL. THESE HAVE TO FOLLOW CERTAIN SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, AND THEY CAN ONLY BE REPROGRAMED TO

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I CAN'T EVEN SWITCH IT OUT WITH THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE COMPLETED USING ORIGINAL ARPA FUNDS.

SO I HAVE A SHORTER POOL OF PROJECTS THAT WE COULD REALLOCATE TO BUT THEY COULD BE REALLOCATED AGAIN.

THERE'S A DEADLINE ON SPENDING THIS FINAL $9 MILLION BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS TO COMPLETE ALL OF THE 355 MILLION, AGAIN, WITH ABOUT 9 MILLION TOTAL REMAINING.

AND SO WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LIST OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE? AND CAN YOU TELL US HOW YOU SELECTED THIS ONE? AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE ALREADY GIVEN MONEY TO NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK AND CATHOLIC CHARITIES UNDER THE SAME PROGRAM.

CORRECT? CORRECT. SO THIS WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THAT SAME KIND OF DECISION PROCESS.

AT THE TIME THAT WAS BACK IN NOVEMBER WHEN WE HAD MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SEVERAL FOOD CONTRACTS BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WERE IN PLACE AT THAT TIME.

AND WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GIVE AN IDEA OF THE NUMBER OF ENTITIES THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER GIVING THESE DOLLARS TO? AT THE TIME, WE ONLY HAD TWO REMAINING ACTIVE CONTRACTS IN THE FOOD SPACE UNDER ARPA.

SO THOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONES THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME, OR THAT'S NOT WELL KNOWN AT THIS POINT.

WE ONLY HAVE THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES CONTRACT.

OKAY. AND THIS IS SPECIFIC TO FOOD. NO. SO AGAIN, THE DISCUSSION IN NOVEMBER WAS RELATED TO PROGRAMING TO PROGRAMING DOLLARS TO SUPPORT FOOD PROJECTS. SO THERE, AS JACK HAD INDICATED, THE FUNDING WAS UNENCUMBERED FROM ANOTHER CONTRACT.

THAT'S WHY THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN WHEN THE CONTRACT CLOSED, THAT WAS LEFT OVER.

AND AT THAT TIME, WE WERE ALSO WORKING TO IDENTIFY SOME ADDITIONAL FOOD RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY, KIND OF BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN NOVEMBER.

THE ONLY TWO CONTRACTS WE HAD STILL ACTIVE AT THAT POINT WERE THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES AND THE SERVICES OF HOPE RELATED TO FOOD PROGRAMS. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT. AND AS JACK HAD HIGHLIGHTED AS WELL, IF THE YOU KNOW, IF THE DECISION IS TO REALLOCATE THAT TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROJECT PROGRAM OR A DIFFERENT SERVICE, THERE ARE SOME OTHER AREAS THAT THAT COULD BE DONE. WELL, MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT WAS A TEN DAY ISSUE IN NOVEMBER FOR SNAP AND WICK. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED.

AND IF THIS COULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING LIKE UTILITY ASSISTANCE OR RENTAL ASSISTANCE OR OTHER, I THINK ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD BE LOOKING BEYOND JUST FOOD, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS THE ONLY NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S THERE'S CLEARLY A REASON THIS ONE DIDN'T GO THROUGH AND THE OTHER TWO DID.

AND WHATEVER THOSE CHALLENGES ARE MAY MEAN YOU WOULD LIKE TO REFOCUS ON OTHER URGENT NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

YES, WE WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. WE CAN GO BACK AND REVISIT WHAT OTHER OPTIONS THERE COULD BE AND PRESENT SOME POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RIDLEY, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I TOO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT REQUEST.

PROVIDING FOOD DISTRIBUTION IS NOT A CORE FUNCTION OF CITY GOVERNMENT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IT ALLOCATED TO SOME HOUSING RELATED PURPOSE, FOR EXAMPLE.

THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE OTHER IS A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR.

[65. Authorize a maintenance and use agreement with Southern Gateway Public Green Foundation for the maintenance, operation, and use of Halperin Park located between South Marsalis Avenue and South Ewing Avenue - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information) (This item was deferred on January 28, 2026)]

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. CHAIR JOHNSON. YES.

I MOVED TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL MARCH 25TH, 2026.

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIR.

JOHNSON. YES. JUST. I WAS NOT MADE. I WAS MADE AWARE OF IT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. I HAVE REACHED OUT TO MISS ALLEN AND EVERYBODY KNOW I SUPPORT THE PARK, BUT THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION THAT WAS NOT GIVEN TO ME, AND I'M BIG ON MAKING SURE THAT I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY DISTRICT. CHAIR WEST.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS ALL THE INFORMATION AND WANT TO SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE.

I JUST THIS IS FOR THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR THE PARK.

I KNOW WE HAVE GRAND OPENING COMING SOON. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT A ONE MONTH DELAY.

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IF IF I HEAR THAT FROM HALPERIN PARK, I'M HAPPILY WILL SUPPORT THIS.

CHAIR JOHNSON, CAN YOU REPEAT THE DATE? AT NEXT MONTH, MARCH 25TH? I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT TIME WE MEET. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF IF THE HALPERIN PARK, IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK OR IF PARKS DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP IF THEY HAVE INFORMATION. CAN WE. YEAH. CAN WE DO. YES. YES WE DO.

YEAH. COME ON DOWN. BE THE 25TH.

HI APRIL ALLEN, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY PUBLIC GREEN FOUNDATION.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT A ONE MONTH DELAY ON THIS.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET OUR OPERATIONS GOING, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, WE COULD MEET OUR DEADLINES IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS AGREEMENT IN PLACE.

OKAY. AND ARE THERE. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY OTHER MEETINGS, SCHEDULED AGENDA MEETINGS FOR THIS. FOR THE FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH. RIGHT. JUST MARCH 25TH.

JUST MARCH 25TH. YEAH. WELL, I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY, SUGGESTION ON KIND OF FIGURING OUT WHAT ITEMS ARE STILL NEED TO BE WORKED OUT.

BUT ALSO I WAS GOING TO MAYBE SUGGEST, SINCE WE HAVE QUITE A FEW ITEMS STILL LEFT ON THE AGENDA IF THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET TODAY.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT ANYONE ON THE SPOT HERE, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A COMPROMISE AND I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING.

IF CITY MANAGER IS GETTING SOME INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.

SORRY ABOUT THAT, COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. I WAS ACTUALLY CONCERNED WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY. NEXT WEDNESDAY IS A OFFICIAL CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING.

AND THE NEXT THE NEXT VOTING AGENDA IS SCHEDULED FOR MARCH THE 25TH.

SO IF COUNCIL HOLDS THE ITEM TODAY, THE NEXT SCHEDULED AGENDA VOTING MEETING WOULD BE THE 25TH OF MARCH.

SO THEN I WILL STICK WITH MY TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO THE FURTHEST ITEM TO MARCH 2025, 2026.

I DON'T WORK IN THE BLIND. I'VE BEEN OVER. I JUST WALKED THERE LAST FRIDAY AND PEOPLE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO SPEAK WITH ME AND DID NOT.

SO I DON'T DO THINGS AT THE LAST MINUTE. I'M NOT RUSHING. I DON'T DO THINGS IN THE BLIND. I SUPPORT HAMPDEN PARK, BUT I WANT INFORMATION AND I DON'T WANT TO FEEL RUSHED TO GET THE INFORMATION.

THAT'S NOT HOW I WORK IN DISTRICT FOUR. CHAIR WEST YOU WERE REFERENCING POTENTIALLY MOVING THIS AND TABLING IT TO THE END OF TODAY'S MEETING? YEAH, I WAS. YES. ONE I'D ASK IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE MAYOR AND WITH YOU AND WITH CITY MANAGER.

AND IF THAT'S ENOUGH TIME FOR MY COLLEAGUE TO MEET WITH.

MEET WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES HERE. YEAH. ONCE AGAIN, I DO RESPECT IT, BUT I DON'T CROWN.

I JUST HAD A WHOLE HOUR AND SPENT TIME OVER AT HYPERION PARK AND MY ENTIRE TEAM, AND I'VE BEEN REACHING OUT.

I REACHED OUT BEFORE. NO ONE HAS HAS EVEN TOLD ME ABOUT THIS.

AND SO THIS ISN'T THAT IMPORTANT. AND SOMEONE SHOULD HAVE PULLED ME OUT AND TALK TO ME WHILE I WAS THERE FACE TO FACE, AND I WOULD HAVE GLADLY LISTENED. SO MY MOTION IS TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO MARCH 25TH, 2026.

NOT TRYING TO DELAY ANYTHING. HOWEVER, I WANT TO BE RESPECTED AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER ACTION ITEM.

WE'RE GETTING SET FOR MARCH 4TH CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS THE CITY AUDITOR INTERIM REPLACEMENT.

AND I GUESS THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

IF WE COULD, INSTEAD OF HAVING A MONTH DELAY, IF WE COULD ADD THIS TO THE ACTION ITEMS FOR MARCH 4TH, ALONG WITH THE INTERIM CITY AUDITOR VOTE, AND I CAN SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN ITEMS THAT GO ON BRIEFING DAYS, AND THEY'RE NOTED IN YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURE, AND THIS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THOSE. WELL, THEN HOW ARE WE ABLE TO ADD ON LIKE THE INTERIM AUDITOR APPOINTMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S AN EMERGENCY SITUATION THAT WE'RE DEEMING AN EMERGENCY.

IT'S URGENT THAT YOU GET THAT DONE PRIOR TO THE 25TH.

AND SO THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA. OKAY. I GUESS I'M GOING TO ASK APRIL THIS MISS ALLEN AND MISS HAGAN ONE MORE TIME ON THIS IS IS A ONE MONTH DELAY IS STILL FEASIBLE FOR YOU OR IS IT?

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THIS IS THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WAS ALREADY DEFERRED ONCE.

SO WHEN WAS THIS DEFERRED AND FOR WHAT REASON? ABOUT A MONTH AGO, MAYBE SIX WEEKS. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WEST, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. THE ITEM WAS DEFERRED ON JANUARY THE 28TH OF THIS YEAR, SO IT WAS DEFERRED FROM JANUARY. OKAY. WELL WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE ON THIS, I JUST I CAN'T. WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS THIS PART GOING FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING THAT'S COMING UP.

SO I'LL BE A NO VOTE AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THANK YOU. CHAIR WEST IF THERE'S A DESIRE TO MOVE THIS TO THE END OF THE MEETING, WE WOULD NEED A MOTION. BUT I'LL COME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WALLACE, THANK YOU.

AND AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO SUPPORT A COLLEAGUE I'VE ALSO WALKED IN THE SHOES OF BEING A NONPROFIT CEO.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT DONORS LIKE CERTAINTY AND THAT IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO KEEP A PROJECT MOVING FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ORGANIZATION AND FOR THE PEOPLE IT NEEDS TO MOVE. AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THESE ISSUES ARE.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALL WORK TOGETHER. I MEAN, EVERYBODY WORK TOGETHER TO GET THE ANSWERS THAT ARE NEEDED, BUT I DON'T LIKE DELAYING THIS AT THIS POINT.

AND MR. JENKINS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THIS.

TURN ON THE MIC. YEAH. JOHN JENKINS, PARKS DIRECTOR.

JUST SPEAKING WITH MISS ALLEN. AND IF, I MEAN, THEY DO HAVE A DEADLINE, BUT IF THERE'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, THIS ITEM CAN GET MOVED.

STILL BE VOTING ON TODAY, BUT GET MOVED LATER DOWN IN THE VOTING PROCESS.

WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THEM. WELL, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. I MEAN, HOPEFULLY WE COULD COME TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN BE AGREED UPON TODAY AND WHAT MAY STILL NEED WORK, BUT NOT TO THROW A STICK IN THE SPOKES.

SO I IF CHAIR WEST, IF YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT OR IF YOU ALL WANT TO DELAY IT, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE, BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT DELAYING THIS ANY FURTHER.

CHAIR STEWART. WE'RE ALL PROBLEM SOLVING AROUND HERE AT THE MOMENT, AND I WAS JUST GOING TO OFFER THAT IT COULD COME TO PARKS, TRAILS AND THE ENVIRONMENT ON MONDAY, AND CHAIR JOHNSON WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

BUT THEN I THINK THAT STILL DOESN'T GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON IT SOON ENOUGH.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WE STILL CAN'T. IT'S STILL, I THINK DATES ARE STILL NOT LINING UP.

SO BUT I WILL OFFER THAT IF IT COULD BE OF ASSISTANCE.

MAY I RESPOND, MAYOR? I WILL WAIT FOR FOR YOUR NEXT ROUND.

I'LL WAIT. YES, SIR. CHAIR RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. JENKINS OR MR. O'CONNOR, COULD YOU PROVIDE US THE HISTORY OF NEGOTIATIONS OF THIS AGREEMENT AND WHY IT WAS DEFERRED IN LATE JANUARY? YES, SIR. RYAN O'CONNOR WITH PARKS.

SO WE HAVE BEEN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SOUTHERN GATEWAY PUBLIC GREEN FOUNDATION, APRIL AND HER TEAM FOR SOME TIME.

TO TO CRAFT THE DEAL POINTS THAT ARE THAT ARE BEFORE YOU STANDARD.

HOW LONG? SIX MONTHS. YES, A NUMBER OF MONTHS.

QUITE SOME TIME. YES. YEAH. WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING QUITE SOME TIME.

THE REASON IT WAS DELAYED AT THE LAST MEETING WE NEEDED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO WORK WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND THE SOUTHERN GATEWAYS ATTORNEYS TO TO CRAFT THE CONTRACT.

THAT'S WHY IT WAS DELAYED. AND YOU'VE REACHED AGREEMENT, I ASSUME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THE MAJOR DEAL TERMS ARE IN THIS AGREEMENT? AGAIN, THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY STANDARD WITH A LOT OF OUR OTHER PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS.

GIVES THE FOUNDATION THE RIGHT TO OPERATE OPERATE THE PARK AND MAINTAIN THE PARK AT NO COST TO THE CITY.

IT ALSO GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MONETIZATION OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD GO BACK INTO THE OPERATIONS OF THE PARK STANDARD THINGS AROUND REQUIRING ANNUAL AUDITED FINANCIALS STANDARD STUFF AROUND THE CITY HAS RIGHT TO USE THE PARK CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS, BASIC, BASIC TERMS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH A LOT OF OUR OTHER AGREEMENTS.

WELL, GIVEN THAT I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT A DEFERRAL FOR A MONTH, GIVEN THAT MISS ALLEN HAS DEADLINES TO MEET.

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SO IF WE CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THE TABLING THIS UNTIL LATER IN THE MEETING THEN I'LL BE VOTING NO ON THIS MOTION. CHAIR MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING WITH PARKS TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE PARKS IN MY DISTRICT AND PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING. ARE YOU DOING THAT WITH DISTRICT FOUR? NO. I MEAN, WE DO. I MEAN, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, RYAN OR MYSELF IF COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON OR HIS OFFICE OR HIS PARK BOARD MEMBER, WE DO COMMUNICATE. I'M GOING TO SAY, I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A STANDING MEETING WITH DISTRICT FOUR TO GO THROUGH ALL THE PROJECTS. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, HALPERIN PARK. IF I WAS RUNNING THAT, I WOULD HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING WITH DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT FOUR TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE THINGS HAPPENING.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ESTABLISH THAT MONTHLY MEETING SO THAT THEY ALWAYS KNOW.

I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A LITTLE BIT OF SHOCK OF COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE, HOW HOW IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER NOT UP TO DATE.

SO I THINK YOU COULD INITIATE THAT. I THINK THEY WILL BOTH BE RECEPTIVE TO IT.

BUT WE NEED YOU ALL TO BE PARTNERING AND WORKING WELL TOGETHER, WHICH I THINK ALL OF YOU WANT TO BE.

HAVE YOU BEEN MEETING WITH THE DISTRICT FOR PARK BOARD MEMBER.

SO THE NEWLY HE'S NEWLY APPOINTED TO THE SEAT.

AND YES, WE HAVE MET WITH HIM ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, AND WE MET WITH THE COUNCILMAN AND HIS TEAM LAST WEEK AT HALPERIN PARK AS WELL.

AS I EXPLAINED TO HIM, IT WAS A SURPRISE TO US THAT THIS WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN DEPTH.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE PARK DEPARTMENT WAS KEEPING HIS OFFICE APPRIZED OF OF THE AGREEMENT, SINCE IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS TO WORK TOGETHER AND JUST HASN'T QUITE COMMUNICATED AS WELL AS NEEDED.

SO I'M GOING TO MOVE TO HOLD THIS UP. OKAY. I'M GOING TO WAIT TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

OR PERHAPS THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. THANK YOU. CAN I ASK IF OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COULD COME, I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S ANTICIPATED RIBBON CUTTING OPENING.

IS THERE IS THERE ANY IMPLICATION OR CONCERN LEGALLY FOR US TO CRACK OPEN A PARK AND LET THE PUBLIC COME ON? WE HAVE NO AGREEMENT. MICROPHONE. OKAY. CONNIE TANKERSLEY WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

SO I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT THIS WOULD NOT GO FORWARD TODAY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE NO OPERATIONAL DOCUMENT, NO OPERATIONAL CONTRACT WITH THE CITY. CURRENTLY, THE HALPERN FOUNDATION IS JUST A DEVELOPER.

OKAY. SO THEY ARE ONLY CHARGED UNDER OUR CURRENT CONTRACT WITH THEM TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT THE PARK, FUNDRAISE AND CONSTRUCT. WHEN THEY ARE DONE, THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANY RIGHTS TO ACCESS THE PARK TO ACTUALLY TURN, YOU KNOW, EVEN MOVE ANYTHING. THEY WILL DELIVER THE PARK TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THEN IT WILL VEST INTO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

AND SO WITHOUT AN OPERATIONAL AGREEMENT AND THEY'RE UP AGAINST THEIR RIBBON CUTTING, I WOULD BE CONCERNED THAT THAT PARK IS NOT BEING MAINTAINED OR SECURED.

IF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT CAN'T MOBILIZE AS RAPIDLY AS THEY COULD.

JOHN, DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN TO THAT? NO, I WOULD JUST SAY THERE'S NO WAY I CAN ASSEMBLE TO OPERATE THAT PARK.

SO YOU DO NOT HAVE FUNDING OR. I DON'T HAVE FUNDING.

I DON'T HAVE STAFFING. AND WOULD THAT IN TURN.

I'M SORRY. I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, CONNIE, BUT I ALSO WAS GOING TO ASK WOULD, IS THERE ANY CONCERN ON LIABILITY FROM OUR CITY ON HAVING RESIDENTS PATRONIZE THE PARK. IF WHAT IF WHAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN AND THERE'S THIS GRAY AREA OF WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? SO ONCE THEY DELIVER THE PARK, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO. WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE LIABLE FOR ANYTHING THAT OCCURS ON THAT PARK.

SO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO MOVE TO SECURE IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE END OF THE MEETING.

I MOVE TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO THE END OF THE MEETING.

IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. WE DO HAVE DISCUSSION.

YEAH, AND I DON'T HAVE MUCH OTHER THAN I BELIEVE WE COULD GET IN THE ROOM AND TRY TO WORK OUT TO AT LEAST ADDRESS COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON'S CONCERNS. I DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE IT'S BEING SHOVED DOWN, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT THERE TO BE REPERCUSSIONS.

I MEAN, THAT WHAT WAS JUST DESCRIBED TO US WAS VERY, VERY SIMILAR IN WHAT WE'VE JUST WORKED THROUGH IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE

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THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL FOR US IN THE NEXT STEP.

AND I DON'T THINK TIMING IS ON OUR SIDE WITH THE NEXT AGENDA MEETING BEING MARCH 25TH.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT BY THE END OF THE MEETING AND SOME UNDERSTANDING AND GET SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

IF NOT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST SEE WHAT THE WILL OF THIS BODY IS.

AND SO THIS ITEM ACTUALLY IS NOT DEBATABLE. THANK YOU FOR LAYING OUT AND EXPLAINING YOUR ITEM.

SO WE WILL NOW GO TO A VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING THIS ITEM TO THE END OF THE MEETING? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 69.

[69. Authorize the City Manager to execute a two-year agreement, with two two-year renewal options, approved as to form by the City Attorney, with Business and Community Lenders of Texas dba BCL of Texas and/or its affiliate for the administration, management, and implementation of the Dallas Homebuyer Assistance Program - Not to exceed $912,965.00 - Financing: Community Development Block Grant Funds ($287,035.00), HOME Investment Partnerships Program Funds ($325,615.00), Equity Tax Increment Financing Oak Cliff Gateway District Funds ($400,000.00) and Equity Tax Increment Financing Deep Ellum District Funds ($187,350.00) *In alignment with Dallas Housing Resource Catalog.]

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. MOVE TO APPROVE.

THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING. NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM 71.

[71. Authorize (1) an economic development grant agreement with the Dallas Wings Development, LLC to construct a facility on City-owned park property located at 1200 North Cockrell Hill Road in an amount not to exceed $54,000,000.00, a developer fee not to exceed $3,240,000.00, and a delay reimbursement in an amount not to exceed $653,000.00 - Not to exceed $57,893,000.00 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund; (2) an amendment to the Dallas Memorial Auditorium Resident Use and Incentive Agreement (CCT-2024-00024819 No. 24-0616) with Full Court Partners LLC, d/b/a/ Dallas Wings; and (3) a decrease in project management services contract with McKissack and McKissack for a reduction in scope to eliminate the Dallas Wings Practice Facility in the amount not to exceed ($1,847,485.00), from $13,945,684.00 to $12,098,199.00 - Financing: Convention Center Revenue Bonds Series 2023 Fund; For a total not to exceed $56,045,515.00 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund ($57,893,000.00) and Convention Center Revenue Bonds Series 2023 Fund (-$1,847,485.00) *In alignment with the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas Master Plan.]

A DECREASE IN PROPERTY AND PROJECT PROJECT MANAGEMENT SERVICES CONTRACT WITH MCKISSACK AND MCKISSACK FOR A REDUCTION IN SCOPE TO ELIMINATE THE DALLAS WINGS PRACTICE FACILITY IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,847,485, FROM $13,945,684 TO $12,098,199, FOR A TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $56,045,515. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHAIR WEST.

I MOVE TO COMMIT THIS ITEM TO THE NEXT AD HOC COMMITTEE ON PROFESSIONAL SPORTS RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. CHAIR WES, FIVE MINUTES.

COUPLE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. WE HAD A PRETTY HEAVY DISCUSSION IN THE LAST PROFESSIONAL SPORTS RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION COMMITTEE ABOUT THIS ITEM.

I THINK COLLEAGUES HAD A LOT OF GREAT QUESTIONS THAT WE DON'T EVEN WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO GETTING THE ANSWERS TO YET.

I KNOW THIS IS A TIMELY ISSUE FOR THE DALLAS WINGS.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO WORK THROUGH SOME THINGS BEFORE WE CAN TRY TO BRING THAT UP HERE. ON THEIR, THEIR CHANGES. AND I WILL ALSO SAY THIS IS I THINK IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO BEAT UP ON CITY STAFF ON THIS KIND OF STUFF BECAUSE THEY CAN'T USUALLY RESPOND BACK.

BUT THIS IS NOT JUST A CITY STAFF ISSUE. I THINK STAFF TAKES SOME OF THE BLAME HERE, BUT THE WINGS HAVE ALSO CHANGED WHAT THEY WANTED, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. AND OUR CONTRACTOR IN THIS CASE, WHO'S THE OWNER, REPRESENTATIVE MCKISSICK, HAS SEVERELY SET BACK ON THEIR HAUNCHES AND MISSED MISSED DEADLINES ON THIS.

SO FOR THOSE JOINT REASONS, A LOT OF THE COSTS HAVE ESCALATED AND CAUSED THIS DELAY AND ALL THE CONFUSION THAT'S COME WITH IT.

SO THAT'S MY MOTION. I HOPE YOU WILL SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. CHAIR MENDELSOHN FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.

AND IT STARTS WITH THE COMMENTS THAT CHAIRMAN WEST HAS HAS RAISED.

WHY IS THIS PROJECT SO DELAYED? CHAIR MENDELSOHN, LET'S STICK TO THE DEFERRAL WHETHER OR NOT TO DEFER.

BUT MY DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO DEFER MAY BE PREDICATED ON THE ANSWER ON WHY SHOULD WHY, WHY IS IT DELAYED CONTINUE. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT QUESTION IS NOT IN ORDER.

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AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN.

SO WE HAVE HAD SOME CHANGES AS WE'VE GONE ALONG.

THERE WERE SOME WNBA REQUIREMENTS FOR A PRACTICE FACILITY THAT NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN AS IT PROGRESSED.

THOSE, ALONG WITH SOME ENVIRONMENTAL AND OTHER THINGS, INCREASED THE COST PAST THE $54 MILLION THAT WE AGREED UPON IN THE PROCESS.

SO DOING THAT, WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH SOME BEES AND STARTED TO WORK WITH THE WITH THE PM THAT WAS HIRED FOR THIS PROJECT. THERE WERE SEVERAL DELAYS IN VERIFYING HOW THOSE BEES WOULD IMPACT THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE BUILDING, ETC., AND THE PROJECT BEGAN TO LAPSE IN TIME.

WHAT? AND SO THAT IS WHAT INCREASED THE PRICE, THE DELAYS THAT OCCURRED IN THE FACT THAT THE, THE PM AND I WILL TAKE SOME BLAME AS, AS CITY STAFF, BUT I ALSO DEPEND ON THE CONSULTANTS TO TELL ME IN TERMS OF TIMING, WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD STILL MEET THE TIME FRAME, GIVEN THE THESE THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND THE PRICING THAT NEEDED TO GO ON THE STREET.

AND SO THAT RESULTED IN THE DELAY. SO WHEN THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED, YOU HAD TOLD ME IT WAS GOING TO BE A BARE BASICS, EASY TO BUILD PROJECT. YOU HAD ALREADY SCOPED WHAT WAS REQUIRED BY THE WNBA, AND IT WAS GOING TO BE VERY SIMPLE TO CONSTRUCT.

AND FRANKLY, THE PRICE WAS WAY, WAY BEYOND WHAT I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH.

WHAT WHAT NEW ELEMENTS HAVE ARISEN THAT YOU WERE NOT AWARE OF? SO THERE WERE SOME WHIRLPOOLS AND OTHER THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE PUT INTO THE FACILITY TO COINCIDE.

SO I'LL TAKE IT BACK A LITTLE BIT. AS YOU KNOW, THE WNBA TOOK AN UPLIFT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS FOR FACILITIES ALSO TOOK AN UPTICK FROM THERE ALIGNING THEMSELVES.

THOSE REQUIREMENTS CHANGE SINCE WE'VE STARTED THIS PROCESS A LITTLE BIT.

YES. IN WHAT WAY? WELL, THERE'S WHIRLPOOLS REQUIRED.

THERE'S EXERCISE EQUIPMENT. THERE'S POOL AND EXERCISE ARE NOT REQUIRED.

WHEN WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THERE WERE SOME.

BUT THE REQUIREMENTS AND THE DEPTH OF WHAT NEEDED TO BE IN THE FACILITY CHANGED.

AND SO WHEN WE AS AN AS A WNBA REQUIREMENT, THEY PUT OUT A BROADCAST THAT SAID WE'VE NOW CHANGED WHAT'S REQUIRED.

THEY HAVE MEETINGS, THEY DISCUSS, AND AS PART OF THE CONTRACT, THERE IS A GROUP, MACHETE GROUP, WHO IS AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WITH THE WINGS.

KEEPING UP WITH OUR ARCHITECT AND OUR PROJECT MANAGER TO INFORM THE PROJECT AND THE NEEDS OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IN THE FACILITIES THAT WE'RE CONSTRUCTING. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

SO, LIKE, WHEN I CONTACT THE WNBA AND I ASK FOR THE HISTORY OF WHAT IS REQUIRED IN A FACILITY, A PRACTICE FACILITY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY CHANGE THEIR SCOPE.

THEY WOULD HAVE DOCUMENTATION OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER TIME TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF A OF A FACILITY.

THEY DO HAVE STANDARDS, JUST LIKE THE NBA SINCE WE AGREED TO BUILD THIS.

CORRECT. OKAY. I'LL BE DOING THAT. SO ALL THIS TIME THIS OVER? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, STAFF LITERALLY LOOKED IN THE CAMERA AND SAID, WE WILL HAVE THIS OPEN SPRING 2026.

AND SO IT'S THE END OF FEBRUARY IN TEXAS. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH SPRING.

WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE SPRING BREAK. CORRECT. WE HAVEN'T HAD A GROUNDBREAKING, LET ALONE AN OPENING.

SO MY QUESTION IS THIS IF THE VENDOR IS HAVING PROBLEMS, WHICH IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM CHAIRMAN WEST, WERE WE NOT TALKING THE VENDOR EVERY TWO WEEKS GETTING AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED EVERY MONTH? BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE LITERALLY NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.

SO WE WERE GETTING AN UPDATE FROM THE VENDOR.

WE STARTED TO DISCUSS WITH THE WINGS WHEN WE KNEW THAT THE PRACTICE FACILITY COULD NOT BE DELIVERED, WHAT KIND OF CHANGES WE COULD MAKE. AND SO THE DESIGNS THAT WE SHOWED YOU HERE WERE A STANDARD SIMILAR TO WHAT THE WHAT THE MAVERICKS HAVE A STEEL FRAME BUILDING. SO THAT WAS THE IMMEDIATE CHANGE TO CUT DOWN ON TIMING.

WE THE CITY. WE USED OUR OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY TO TO SPEED UP SOME OF THE PROCESS.

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THAT WAS DISAGREEMENT ON BOTH SIDES ABOUT WHAT THOSE COSTS WERE, WHAT THOSE VALUE ENGINEERING OPTIONS WOULD BE, AND HOW THEY WOULD AFFECT THE PROGRAMING OF THE BUILDING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO THAT BEGAN TO EAT UP TIME. SO WE DID TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MAKE THIS DATE.

WE WERE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE PM'S WORK ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND SO THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN THEIR SENIOR LEADERSHIP THAT HAS OCCURRED.

WE MET WITH THEM JUST LAST WEEK AND HAD THEM TELL US HOW THEY WOULD WORK ON THE ARENA ONCE WE TAKE THEM OFF THIS PROJECT.

AND SO WE'VE DEVELOPED A PATH THAT WILL BE MEMORIALIZED IN A MEMORANDUM THAT WILL TALK ABOUT A CURE PERIOD FOR THE ARENA COMPONENT.

OUR DECISION IN TALKING WITH THE WINGS, IS FOR IF THEY CAN BE THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROJECT, IF THE IF THIS BODY IS AMENABLE TO IT IN ORDER TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD AT A, AT A QUICKER PACE.

IS THERE A PERFORMANCE BOND ON THIS PROJECT? THERE'S NOT.

THEY ARE A PROJECT MANAGEMENT FIRM. SO IT'S THEY'RE NOT A CONSTRUCTION FIRM.

SO THERE'S NOT A PERFORMANCE BOND FROM THEM. NO, THERE IS NOT.

OKAY. I'M HAVING WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M HAVING A VERY HARD TIME HEARING THAT THE CITY SPED UP THE PROCESS AND NOTHING'S HAPPENED LIKE IT IS NEARLY DISINFORMATION TO SAY THAT.

AND I AM JUST GOING TO PUT THAT ASIDE. THERE ARE QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT I DON'T THINK ARE GERMANE ABOUT HOW THE CONVENTION CENTER FUNDING CAN FUND SOMETHING SO MANY MILES AWAY.

ALL SORTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT ONE OF THE ONE OF THE ASPECTS THAT'S ON THE AGENDA IS THAT WE WOULD PAY A DELAY FEE.

AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE SPED THE PROCESS UP? WHY WOULD WE BE PAYING A DELAY FEE? SO THEY WILL HAVE TO STAY AND PRACTICE IN AND PLAY IN THE THEIR CURRENT FACILITY. AND SO WITH THAT, THERE'S A, THERE'S A COST TO THEM.

AND SO IN THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE WERE DOING WITH THEM, THERE WAS A, A LONGER LIST, A LONGER REQUEST.

BUT FOR THINGS THAT HAVE NOT MATERIALIZED BECAUSE THEY'VE NOT YET MOVED TO DALLAS.

AND SO WE WE SHORTENED THAT DOWN JUST TO THE ACTUAL COST OF THEIR RENTAL.

WHO'S BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS? SO WE ARE TAKING THEM OFF OF THE PROJECT FOR THE SECONDARY FACILITY.

MCKISSIC AND ARE THEY BEING PUT ON THE NAUGHTY LIST? NOT ABLE TO RESPOND TO ANY PROCUREMENTS OR BE HIRED BY THE CITY FOR A PERIOD OF YEARS? THEIR CONTRACT INCLUDES A CARE PERIOD. SO WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THAT CARE PERIOD ON THE PRACTICE FACILITY GETTING GIVEN THE TIME FRAME THAT WE NEED TO CONSTRUCT IT. THEY ARE USING THAT CARE PERIOD ON THE ARENA COMPONENT.

HAVE YOU HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? YES, THOSE CONCERNS WERE EXPRESSED.

WE HAD EXPRESSED TO THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY THAT WE NEEDED TO SWITCH OUT THAT SENIOR POSITION.

PRIMARILY BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS.

AND SO THAT THAT HAS BEEN DONE NOW WAS NOT DONE AT THE ORIGINAL ASKING TIME NOW.

WELL I SEE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER ARTIS IS THERE.

I THINK THE QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER IS ALSO WHO'S BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE ON THE CITY SIDE, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF PERFORMANCE THAT WE EXPECT, AND IT LOOKS TERRIBLE FOR US.

IT'S CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR THE TEAM. AND REALLY, IT'S JUST ANOTHER NOTCH IN THE BELT OF ANOTHER FAILED REAL ESTATE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE NOT DELIVERED ON TIME OR ON BUDGET. AND IF YOU WANT ME TO LIST THE PROJECTS, I WILL, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU DO BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY LONG AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE IN HOW WE DO OUR WORK, BUT THIS IS NOT WORKING FOR US.

I AM GOING TO STOP THERE, BUT I AM TOTALLY SHOCKED BY THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION.

AND I DID WATCH THE MAJORITY OF YOUR MEETING.

AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE MEMBERS WHO ASKED THE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY,

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THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, THE CITY COUNCIL LET THIS HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH A LOT THAT MISS MENDELSOHN SAID I'M CURIOUS.

I KNOW THAT WE ARE ARE ARE JUST PROCEDURAL. WHY WHY ARE WE WHAT? I MEAN, CHAIR WEST, YOU CAN ANSWER IF YOU IF YOU WILL, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE EXPECTATION OR INTENT OF BRINGING IT TO THE COMMITTEE. I'LL ANSWER.

IT WAS THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY QUESTIONS FROM COLLEAGUES THAT WERE ON THE COMMITTEE, SO STAFF DID NOT HAVE THOSE ANSWERS IN, IN THE COMMITTEE OR IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK. AND ALSO, I MEAN, WITHOUT REVEALING THE DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THERE WERE IT SEEMED LIKE WE NEEDED TO GO BACK AND TALK TO THE WINGS A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

AND SO THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE WE CAN DO ANYTHING WITH THIS ITEM.

OKAY. I THINK THAT A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS WAS JUST DISCUSSED.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE ARE GOING TO KEEP AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

QUITE FRANKLY, I AM REALLY JUST MORE CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER'S TEAM IS EXPLORING FOR WHAT OUR OPTIONS COULD BE AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY AND MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE LEFT WITH MUCH THAT COULD BE LABELED FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

WELL, MAY I RESPOND? COUNCIL MEMBER. I MEAN, WE I WAS A COMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY.

I MEAN, WE JUST HAD IT. IT FEELS LIKE FRIDAY.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT ANYTHING'S BEEN DONE FROM CITY MANAGER'S SIDE OR VERY LITTLE SINCE THAT TIME.

BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SO MUCH OTHER BUSINESS THIS WEEK. SO I THINK THE, THE DELAY IS TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER SOME TIME TO HANDLE EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

WELL, WITHOUT DIVULGING ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION CONVERSATIONS AND WITH WHAT WAS JUST GIVEN TO US, I WOULD ASK THAT WE WOULD BE ADAMANT ABOUT SENDING THE CITY MANAGER BACK TO GIVE US THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE PUTTING US IN ANY FURTHER FINANCIAL BURDEN THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO.

ESPECIALLY WITH NOTHING BEING PRESENTED TO GIVE BACK TO THE CITY ANYMORE.

WE WE HAVE APPROVED A DEAL. WE HAVE BEEN HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED BY A DEAL THAT WE HAVE APPROVED QUITE FRANKLY, IN THE PUBLIC EYE. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING HAS CHANGED.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, AND IF I WOULD ASK THAT IT SEEMS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EMPTY AMERICAN AIRLINES CENTER IN 2031. AND HOW THAT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE CONVERSATION IS BEYOND ME.

AND SO INSTEAD OF CONTINUING TO UP THE ANTE AT BANK OF DALLAS, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO EXPLORE THE ASSETS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND WE KNOW ARE, QUITE FRANKLY, GOING TO BE OBSOLETE SOON.

AND I HADN'T HEARD THAT FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ONCE.

I KNOW THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WORKED OUT WITH THE, THE WINGS TEAM IS A PROMISE THAT WE WILL FURNISH A PRACTICE FACILITY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MUCH SPECIFICATION BEYOND THAT.

SO I THINK THE CITY OF DALLAS CAN MAKE. RIGHT WITHOUT CONTINUING TO BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS.

THANK YOU. I WOULD ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS. AND COMING INTO THE NEXT MEETING, I KNOW I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME JOIN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE BEEN ADVISED OF THIS FAR LATER THAN WELL, CERTAINLY I WOULD HAVE LIKED.

I MEAN, THIS WAS KIND OF A SURPRISE WHEN THIS STARTED COMING UP, AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

WE NEED TO KNOW SOONER. WITHOUT GOING INTO MUCH DETAIL, I KNOW THAT THIS ITEM IS ABOUT A REDUCTION IN SCOPE OF THE WORK OF ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS. AND I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULDN'T LOOK AT A ELIMINATING VERSUS REDUCING.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OUR OPTIONS WOULD BE THERE AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'D, YOU KNOW, MAKE A CHANGE AND NOT MAKE A WHOLE CHANGE IN THIS SITUATION.

SO THANK YOU, CHAIR WEST. THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

I MEAN, I AGREE WITH ALL THOSE COMMENTS FROM THE LAST TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND I ALSO ESPECIALLY AGREE WITH I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY MANAGER HERE.

THE COMMENTS ABOUT NEEDING MORE REGULAR UPDATES ON THESE BRIEFINGS SO THAT WE DON'T GET HIT WITH THERE'S A LARGER PRICE TAG AND

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AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE MORE REGULAR UPDATES FROM STAFF ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THESE CONTRACTS.

AND THEN IS MCKISSICK HERE? DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM FROM OUR CONTRACTOR HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY? I WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE CONTRACTOR PUBLICLY SO WE CAN GET SOME ANSWERS ON THE DELAY.

SO HOWEVER, THAT NEEDS TO BE NOTICED BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON THE ARENA.

SO THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE STILL UNDER CONTRACT TO DEVELOP THE ARENA, WHICH IS THE SECOND PART OF OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE WINGS.

SO I, I SHARE MY COLLEAGUES CONCERNS THAT WE WE'RE STILL PAYING THESE PEOPLE.

ARE THEY GOING TO MEET THOSE DEADLINES? I'M NOT HOPEFUL.

SO THAT'S MY REQUEST. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. THIS IS TO DEFER THE TO GO BACK TO YOUR COMMITTEE.

OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

AGENDA ITEM 72, AUTHORIZED SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT WITH PERKINS AND WILL,

[72. Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to the professional services contract with Perkins & Will, Inc. for additional architectural and engineering services related to the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas (KBHCCD) Master Plan - Component One Convention Center Expansion West of Lamar Only - Not to exceed $3,045,443.45, from $141,574,365.00 to $144,619,808.45 - Financing: CCT Revenue Bonds, Series 2023 Fund *In alignment with Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas Master Plan.]

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? A MOTION TO APPROVE? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIR MIDDLETON, FIVE MINUTES. CAN WE HAVE STAFF EXPLAIN THIS ITEM, PLEASE? IT COULD BE BRIEF. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR, CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.

SO THIS IS AN ENHANCEMENT TO SCOPE. THIS IS FOR ITEMS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL NEGOTIATION BECAUSE WE WERE STILL WORKING.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE LOOK AT THE ITEM, THERE ARE ENHANCEMENTS TO PROVIDE AND START THE DESIGN PORTION OF THE FLAT PROGRAM FOR THE FOR THE GREEN SPACES OVER I-30.

WE DID NOT AWARD THAT DESIGN SCOPE AT THE TIME, BECAUSE WE WERE STILL TRYING TO DETERMINE WITH TXDOT THE ACTUAL TIMING OF WHEN THE DEBT CAPS, WHICH WERE ALREADY AGREED TO IN APRIL 22ND THAT ARE BEING DESIGNED BY TXDOT WOULD BE DROPPED, AND HOW THEY WOULD INTEGRATE INTO THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

SO THAT IS AN ADD. THERE IS A SUSTAINABLE GEOTHERMAL COMPONENT TO THIS PROJECT THAT CAME ABOUT AS WE STARTED TO DESIGN.

IT'LL, IN THE LONG TERM SAVE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS, ABOUT $35 MILLION TO THE PROJECT AS PART OF IT.

IT WAS CONCEIVED AND DISCUSSED AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS.

SO THEY WILL BE DESIGNING THAT. THE OTHER COMPONENTS ARE FOR CONTINUING OPERATIONS GIVEN THE ADDITION OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE NOW BUILDING OVER. SO WE'LL NEED TO DO ADDITIONAL LIDAR SCANNING OF THE PROPERTY, ETC..

SO MANY OF THESE THINGS YOU SAY ARE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW AT THE BEGINNING, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I VOTED AGAINST THIS WHOLE PROJECT, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND IT AND WE WERE GOING TO A 30% DESIGN INSTEAD OF A 10% DESIGN.

THE 707 MILLION. SO THAT WAS NOT IN THE BUDGET THEN BECAUSE IT WASN'T CONSIDERED.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO WE HAD A LINE ITEM FOR THE GREEN SPACE OVER LAMAR AND A LINE ITEM FOR SUSTAINABILITY IN DESIGN.

WE WERE NOT SPECIFIC ON WHAT THOSE WERE GOING TO BE, SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE THEM IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE.

SO THIS IS A SUPPLEMENTAL TO ADD THEM TO THE SCOPE FOR PERKINS AND WILL TO ACTUALLY DO THE DESIGN.

AND WHAT WAS THE LINE ITEM AMOUNT? THE LINE ITEM AMOUNTS WERE ACTUALLY FLAT AMOUNTS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN SPACE OVER LAMAR FOR THE 627, I ACTUALLY HAD $1 MILLION IN THERE.

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AND THE GREEN SPACE, AS YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT WITH TXDOT AND AND THE CITY, WE WORKED WELL TOGETHER.

BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS TIMING CONSIDERATIONS IN HOW WE WOULD DELIVER.

AND I KNOW THIS BODY HAS ASKED FOR WHAT DIRECTION WE'RE GOING WITH THOSE GREEN SPACES.

WE DIDN'T PROVIDE THOSE AND TOLD AND TOLD THIS BODY AT THE TIME THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DESIGN THEM LATER.

SO WE'RE NOW AT THAT TIME, WE HAVE LINED UP WITH BALFOUR IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULES ARE GOING TO BE FOR THE DROPS OF THOSE DEBT CAPS. AND SO NOW WE CAN ADD THE DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN START TO WORK TOWARDS THAT.

WHAT ELEMENTS WILL USE GEOTHERMAL? I'LL NEED TO HAVE THE CONSULTANT COME DOWN ACTUALLY AND DESCRIBE THE ENTIRE OF IT, BUT IT IS A PART OF OUR FUNDING PLAN FOR THE FACILITY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ENERGY SAVINGS, NOT JUST TO THE FACILITY, BUT TO SEE IF WE CAN PROVIDE ENERGY AND ENERGY EXCHANGE AROUND THE FACILITY WILL BE ISSUING AN RFI RELATED TO IT.

AND THIS IS THE THE DESIGN OF THE FIRST PORTION OF WHAT BECOMES THE LONGER TERM THE LONGER TERM GEOTHERMAL.

SO IF I COULD HAVE INSPIRED DALLAS. SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEIR ANSWER.

BUT BEFORE WE DO, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE GUARANTEE IS ABOUT THE GEOTHERMAL WORKING? AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW, WE PUT GEOTHERMAL IN MULTIPLE FIRE STATIONS AND IT DIDN'T WORK AND THE GEOTHERMAL WAS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A TRADITIONAL HVAC.

WE PUT IT IN TO GET LEED CERTIFICATION. WE REMOVED IT AND REINSTALLED THE HVAC SO THAT OUR OFFICERS COULD COOL DOWN.

SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT THE GEOTHERMAL ASPECT IS OF THIS AGREEMENT AND IN THE SCOPE.

AND THEN NUMBER TWO WHAT IS THE GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL ACTUALLY DO THE WORK THAT IT NEEDS TO.

YEAH. TOM RICE WITH PERKINS AND WILL ARCHITECTS MANAGING PRINCIPAL ON THE PROJECT.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE ARE USING TWO, EXCUSE ME, TUBES RUNNING THROUGH ALL THE PEERS OF THE PROJECT.

SO WE ARE ACTUALLY SAVING MONEY IN TERMS OF A NORMAL TYPE OF INSTALLATION FOR GEO PEERS, BECAUSE WE'RE USING OUR BUILDING PEERS FOR IT, AND IT IS INTEGRAL TO THE OVERALL SYSTEM AND PART OF OUR LEED GOLD CERTIFICATION PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO.

IN TERMS OF OTHER EXPERIENCES YOU'VE SEEN WITH GEO PEERS, I'M NOT I CAN'T ANSWER WHY THOSE DIDN'T WORK, BUT THIS SYSTEM SHOULD BE VERY, VERY GOOD SYSTEM FOR THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION.

WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF PEERS THAT THIS WILL BE WORKING THROUGH THE BUILDING.

AND WHAT'S OUR RECOURSE IF IT DOESN'T SUFFICIENTLY COOL THE BUILDING? YES. SHOULD ACTUALLY SORRY. SHOULD ACTUALLY DO VERY WELL WITH THE BUILDING.

WHAT IS OUR RECOURSE? WHAT IF IT DOESN'T? WHAT IF IT DOESN'T? YEAH. WHAT IF IT DOESN'T COOL THE BUILDING SUFFICIENTLY? WELL, I WE'RE PLANNING ON IT WORKING. I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE'D HAVE TO MAKE SOME RENOVATIONS, I, I GUESS.

BUT OUR EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE GOT OTHER PROJECTS WHERE WE CAN SHOW THAT IT DOES WORK IN THOSE SYSTEMS AND BUT OUR EXPERIENCE AT THE CITY IS THAT IT HAS NOT WORKED LIKE LITERALLY, WE HAVE BUILT BUILDINGS USING THIS AND IT HASN'T WORKED WHERE WE'VE HAD ARCHITECTS DESIGN IT, WE'VE HAD ENGINEERS INSTALL IT AND IT HAS NOT SUFFICIENTLY COOLED THE BUILDING.

IT THEN HAD TO BE RETROFITTED FOR HVAC. AND SO WHAT I'M ASKING IN GEOTHERMAL IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HVAC, EVEN THOUGH IT SAVES LONG TERM ON COSTS. BUT I'M ASKING WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T WORK? WHAT'S OUR RECOURSE? WELL, WE HAVE WE HAVE SEVERAL LAYERS OF THE SYSTEM.

LIKE WE ALSO HAVE A VERY LARGE COLD WATER STORAGE TANK THAT WILL HELP SUPPORT THE SYSTEM IN TERMS OF IF THE SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK, I WILL DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THE BUILDING. DO WE HAVE A FISCAL REMEDY FROM YOUR COMPANY? I'M SORRY. IS THERE A REITERATIVE SYSTEM? THERE ARE.

I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS INTEGRAL TO THE SYSTEM THAT WE ARE DESIGNING.

SO IT'S NOT A DUPLICATIVE SYSTEM. IT IS ITERATIVE IN THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE SAFETY FACTORS INVOLVED IN THE DESIGN OF IT.

OKAY. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE SAFETY. I'M INTERESTED IN COOLING.

AND IF YOUR SYSTEM CANNOT SUFFICIENTLY COOL THE BUILDING, DO WE RECOUP THE DOLLARS TO RETROFIT IT TO HVAC? SYSTEMS. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

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SO IF THE EQUIPMENT DOES NOT WORK, WE WILL NOT JUST ACCEPT THAT, WE WILL MAKE SURE IT WORKS AND WE HAVE PROPER GUARANTEES SO THAT THE GEOTHERMAL WE HAD PREVIOUSLY WORKED, IT OPERATED, IT DIDN'T SUFFICIENTLY COOL THE BUILDING.

AND SO I'M REPEATING THE SAME QUESTION WHAT HAPPENS IF THE GEOTHERMAL THAT'S INSTALLED DOES NOT SUFFICIENTLY COOL THE BUILDING SO THAT THAT WHAT THAT MEANS, IF THAT'S IF THAT'S THE CASE, IS THAT YOU DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH COOLING POWER FROM WHAT YOU BOUGHT, AND SO YOU PROBABLY AUGMENTED IT WITH, WITH TYPICAL HVAC EQUIPMENT.

WELL, PROBABLY YOU'RE COMING TO THAT CONCLUSION, BUT THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE CONCLUSION THAT WAS FOUND WITH THE FIRE STATIONS, WHICH IS THAT IT WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE BEEN WORKED, BUT IT WAS DONE TO BE ABLE TO GET THE LEED CERTIFICATION.

OKAY. SO I CAN'T TALK TO WHAT HAPPENED IN OTHER DEALS THAT I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE CITY DID, HOW THEY CONTRACTED THAT. IT WILL SUFFICIENTLY COOL THE BUILDING.

WELL, WHAT I WILL GUARANTEE IS WE'LL HAVE CONTRACTS THAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK, IT'LL BE RECTIFIED.

WELL, THAT NOT WORKING IS NOT THE ISSUE. SUFFICIENTLY COOLING THE BUILDING IS THE ISSUE.

SO I BELIEVE I WOULD SAY IF IT DOESN'T SUFFICIENTLY COOL THE BUILDING, IT DOESN'T WORK.

THAT WOULD BE MY DEFINITION. NOT LEGALLY THE SAME THING.

SO DO WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY HERE? SO? SO THIS IS THIS IS A NORMAL THING THAT HAPPENS.

IT'S EITHER ENGINEERED RIGHT OR IT'S NOT. AND IF I MAKE COUNCILWOMAN, I DIDN'T OBVIOUSLY WORK ON THIS FIRE STATION PROJECTS, BUT I DID SPEAK WITH THE FRM TEAM AND THEY SAID THE SYSTEMS WE INSTALLED IN OUR FIRE STATIONS WERE MORE LIKE A RESIDENTIAL KIND OF SYSTEM.

THERE WERE NO DRILLING PIERS. THIS IS AN APPLES TO ORANGES COMPARISON TO WHATEVER WAS DONE AT A SMALL FIRE STATION VERSUS A MASSIVE COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

CITY ATTORNEY CHAIR MIDDLETON, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR.

YES. THE QUESTION TO YOU IS THIS DOES THE CONTRACT STATE THAT THE GEOTHERMAL WILL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT COOLING TO THE BUILDING, OR JUST THAT THE SYSTEM WILL WORK AS IN DEFINED AS IT WILL OPERATE? BECAUSE WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH GEOTHERMAL THAT DOES NOT SUFFICIENTLY COOL.

I'M NOT HEARING ANY KIND OF ASSURANCE. CONNIE, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? SO ANY CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE, AND I THINK I BETTER UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION NOW, IF THERE IS A FAILING SIMILAR TO ANY OTHER THING THAT'S IN OUR CURRENT CONVENTION CENTER, THERE'S WARRANTIES ON EVERYTHING THAT IS NEW, AND THOSE WARRANTIES COVER SYSTEM ADJUSTMENTS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK IN MY UNDERSTANDING AND HEARING FROM ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER BENTLEY, THIS IS NOT A NONCOMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL INSTALLATION. THIS WOULD BE A MAJOR LIFT FOR A BUILDING THAT WOULD COME WITH LAYERS OF WARRANTIES TO ENSURE THAT THEY WOULD COME IN AND FIX OR REMEDY.

AND WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE CONTRACTS TO ENSURE THERE IS A REITERATIVE REMEDY IN THERE.

RESPECTFULLY, WHEN SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK, NOBODY CARES WHAT THE INTENT WAS.

THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT THE LEGAL WORDING IS. AND IF IT JUST SAYS THAT IT WILL WORK OR IT WILL OPERATE, IT PROBABLY WILL. AND THE LAST TIME I WAS IN COLORADO, IT WAS A GEOTHERMAL HOTEL.

AND GUESS WHAT? IT WAS HOT AS COULD BE BECAUSE THEY HAD A HEAT WAVE AND IT WAS NOT CAPABLE OF HANDLING A HEAT WAVE.

SO, SO IN TERMS OF QUESTION IS I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, PLEASE.

HI, CONNIE TANKERSLEY WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

SO OUR CONTRACTS MENDELSOHN THEY DO REQUIRE A STANDARD OF CARE FOR THE ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS THAT WORK ON DESIGNS.

SO THERE IS A STANDARD FOR THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT THEY ARE DESIGNING THAT WE WOULD HOLD THEM TO.

NOW, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS THAT WHEN IT'S COMPLETED, IT'S ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED.

AND IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DESIGN PLANS, THAT IT ISN'T ACTUALLY OPERATING WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE ASKED FOR IT TO BE DESIGNED.

AND SO AT THAT POINT, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT THE CITY WOULD GO THROUGH TO ACTUALLY GET A THIRD PARTY OPINION AS TO WHAT THE ERROR OR IF ANY KIND OF DEFICIENCY OCCURRED IN THE DESIGN. AND SO THAT'S PUTTING THE CITY AT A POSITION TO ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD BRING A CLAIM AGAINST THE ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERING FIRM FOR BASICALLY NOT DESIGNING TO OUR SPECIFICATIONS.

AND IT REALLY IS DIFFICULT TO SAY THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY OCCUR UNTIL THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY OPERATIONAL.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS OCCASIONALLY IN THE INDUSTRY, AND THE CONTRACTOR TAKES COMMITS TO CARRY PROFESSIONAL LIABILITY INSURANCE.

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SO AS A NON ATTORNEY, I'M LOOKING FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WHEN IT'S 104 DEGREES IN DALLAS, TEXAS, IN AUGUST, THAT THAT CONVENTION CENTER CAN HOLD A 73 DEGREE TEMPERATURE.

THAT IF THAT IS THE SPECIFICATION THAT THE CITY CITY ACTUALLY SOLICITED THE CONTRACT FOR SPECIFICATION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFICATION IS, BUT THAT IS A JUST JUSTIFIABLE QUESTION.

YES TO STAFF. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

AND WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

WE KNOW THAT IT'S A HEAT ISLAND. AND THEN WE HAD THAT CONFIRMED BY OUR ARCHITECT AND BY OUR CONSTRUCTION TEAM AS WELL.

AND SO ANYTHING THAT'S DESIGNED FOR THIS AREA TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THE CITY OF DALLAS PROCLIVITY FOR EXTREME HEAT IN, IN THE SUMMER. SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE'S A PROVISION THERE THAT SAYS WHEN IT IS 104 DEGREES OUT, IT WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A TEMPERATURE. THAT'S COOL.

I MEAN, COME ON, THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC LINE IN THERE THAT GIVES TEMPERATURE ISSUE FOR COUNCILS OF THE FUTURE.

I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE ITEM. CHAIR RIDLEY FIVE MINUTES.

SO WITH REGARD TO THE OVER THE DECK PARK, OVER I-30 WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WERE BRIEFED ON THIS PROJECT, THE PLANS SHOWED A DECK PARK.

THEN IT WAS LATER DELETED AS A COST SAVINGS MEASURE.

AND NOW APPARENTLY IT'S BEEN PUT BACK. SO WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE FOR THIS DECK PARK? AND IF IT ISN'T THERE, WHY ARE WE DESIGNING SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD.

SO IF I COULD TAKE YOU A LITTLE BACK IN HISTORY, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT CORRECT.

SO THE DECK PARK WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED IN THE MASTER PLAN AS A KLYDE WARREN TYPE DECK PARK.

AS WE WORKED WITH TXDOT BECAUSE WE WERE RUNNING PARALLEL IN OUR DESIGN THEY INFORMED US THAT THERE WAS NO WAY THAT THE THAT I-30 COULD DROP ENOUGH TO PROVIDE THE VENTILATION NECESSARY UNDER FIRE CODE TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD MAINTAIN THAT DECK.

AND THEY USED AS REFERENCE IN HISTORY WHAT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED WITH KLYDE WARREN AND THE AND THE COMEBACKS THAT HAD TO COME TO ADD MONEY TO CONTRACTS TO FIX THAT VENTILATION PROBLEM. AND SO WE DID BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.

WE SAID WE HAD TO TURN THEM INTO GREEN SPACES.

WE WORKED WITH TXDOT ON THE WIDTH AND THE DEPTH THAT THEY COULD BE IN ORDER TO.

SO THEY WERE NEVER DELETED. THEY WERE DELETED IN SIZE, BUT NOT SCOPE.

AND SO WHAT WE PROVIDED FOR IN OUR APRIL OF 22 AGREEMENT WITH ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TEXDOT WAS THE PROVISION OF A GREEN SPACE OVER EAST LAMAR, A GREEN SPACE OVER WEST LAMAR, AND IN A SEPARATE CONTRACT, A THREE FINGERED DECK THAT WOULD SPAN INTO OLD CITY PARK.

BOTH. ALL OF THOSE ENOUGH TO BE A GREEN SPACE.

NOT ENOUGH AT ALL TO BE A KLYDE WARREN PARK. SO THEY WERE NEVER DELETED FROM THE SCOPE IN TERMS OF THAT.

WHAT WE DID DO WAS WHEN WE WERE NEGOTIATING THE CONTRACT WITH THE ARCHITECT IS SAY THAT WE ARE NOT SURE OF THE TIMELINE YET WITH TEXDOT IN TERMS OF WHEN THOSE DEBT CAPS WOULD BE DROPPED.

AND SO WE WERE STILL TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE COULD GET A DESIGN THAT INCLUDED THE FLAT PORTION OF THE DECK AS WELL.

THROUGH TEXDOT. SO WE DID NOT THEN INCLUDE IT IN THE CONTRACT WITH WITH PERKINS AND WILL.

WE HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY COME BACK. THEY HAVE HIRED BALFOUR ON THE TEXDOT SIDE.

THEY HAVE DESIGNED ONLY THE CAPS, NOT THE FLAT.

AND SO WE'RE ASKING PERKINS AND WILL TO DESIGN THE CROSSOVERS FOR THOSE TO THEN BRING THEM BACK TO YOU ALL TO TELL YOU HOW THEY WILL.

WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR THE PROGRAMING OF THOSE IN THAT WHOLE TIME.

WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED AND DISCUSSED WITH, WITH TEXDOT IS THE WEIGHT THAT COULD GO OVER AND STAY ON THOSE GREEN SPACES AS THEY CROSSED OVER. THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CONNECTIVITY, RECONNECTING COMMUNITIES INTO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, ETC.. SO WE YES, WE DELETED THE KLYDE WARREN S NOT FOR COST, BUT FOR FIRE CODE SAFETY AND THE CONCERNS OF TXDOT AND THE DEPTH OF AN ABILITY TO VENTILATE. WELL, HOW ARE THOSE CONCERNS ABOUT A KLYDE WARREN PARK ALLEVIATED?

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SO THE PROBLEM WAS, AS ROSA WAS SAYING, IS THAT TEXDOT COULD NOT LOWER THE ROAD ANYMORE TO CREATE A BIGGER.

YEAH, I GOT THAT THERE. SO WHAT WAS THE INITIAL ISSUE? WAS IT SIMPLY VENTILATION BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THE DECKS? YEAH, I WOULD SAY IT WAS VENTILATION. YES. SO YES, IT WAS COMPRESSED THE WIDTH OF THE DECKS SO THAT THERE WERE NATURAL VENTILATION WILL BE SUFFICIENT. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WE DID THAT AND WE LIGHTEN THE LOAD.

THAT WOULD BE ON TOP. SO THEY THEY HAD US SUBMIT SOME DOCUMENTATION FROM ENGINEERS THAT SAID THE WEIGHT OF TREES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE IF WE WERE GOING TO PUT GRASS WITH THE WEIGHT OF THAT COULD BE AS WE WENT ACROSS, THAT WOULD STILL ALLOW FOR VENTILATION UNDER AND NOT AN OVERLOAD THAT WOULD CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS AT THE TOP. SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PLANT ANY TREES, ANYTHING BUT GRASS ON THESE DECKS.

IT DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF TREES AND IT DEPENDS ON THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE EXPLORATION WILL BE AND WILL WORK IN TANDEM WITH TXDOT AND FIRE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CAUSING ANY FUTURE PROBLEMS. SO THAT WILL BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THIS AMENDED SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH PERKINS AND WILL TO DETERMINE THOSE THINGS.

CORRECT. OKAY. AND WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE CONVENTION CENTER BUDGET TO BUILD THESE DECKS.

YES. WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CAPS, AND WE SET ASIDE THE PORTION FOR THE PROGRAMABLE PROGRAMABLE TOP.

WE JUST DID NOT AWARD THE DESIGN OF IT BECAUSE OF THE TIMING AND THE ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY COULD BE AND THE SIZING.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIR MENDELSOHN THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I FOCUSED ON THE GEOTHERMAL, BUT I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON THE DEBT CAP.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT TEX-DOT WAS ONLY DOING THE FOUNDATION PART.

IS THAT RIGHT? THEY'RE DOING. YEAH, THEY'RE CALLED THE DEBT CAPS.

SO THOSE ARE THE STRUCTURES THAT HOLD UP THE FLATTENED PORTION.

SO THE DESIGN WILL BE TO THE LOAD REQUIREMENTS.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS DESIGNING THE ACTUAL HORIZONTAL FORM, HORIZONTAL PORTION OF IT TO THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE SUBMITTED TO TEX. NOT NOW. THERE'LL BE SOME BACK AND FORTH AS WE GO AND WORKING WITH BALFOUR, OF COURSE, AS WE DO THE DESIGN TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE NOT OVERLOADED AND WE'RE NOT THEN CAUSING A, AGAIN, A FUTURE PROBLEM THAT IMPACTS VENTILATION OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT TRAVERSES UNDERNEATH.

OKAY. AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THE ANSWER TO CHAIRMAN RIDLEY'S QUESTION IS THAT YOU'VE GOT THE COST TO COMPLETELY BUILD OUT THE DECK PARK IN THE CONVENTION CENTER. SO WE HAVE A BUDGETED COST DESIGNED TO THAT.

AND THEN WE'LL OBVIOUSLY GO BACK AND FORTH, FIND SAVINGS WHERE WE CAN IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH TEXDOT.

SO YOU HAVE BUDGETED FOR DESIGN BUT NOT FOR CONSTRUCTION.

OR YOU DO HAVE IT FOR CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE PUT IT I HAVE IT IN TWO BUCKETS.

ONE IS IN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FOR THE DESIGN COMPONENT OF THIS, AND THE OTHER IS IN THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET.

AND WHAT ARE THOSE $2 AMOUNTS? SO I HAVE PUT ALMOST 7 MILLION FOR THE DECK, THE PROGRAMABLE DECK PACK. YEAH. THE SO WHAT WE ARE DOING AS PART OF OUR DESIGN EXERCISE IS DOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND DOING DESIGN WORK TO BLEND IT WITH THE SOUTH END OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND IN DOING THAT, WE WILL HELP DEFINE THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COST SO WE CAN GET THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF GREENSCAPE TREES.

IF THERE'S PLAY AREAS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN MATCHES THE BUDGET THAT'S FUNDED.

OKAY. WAIT, SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS? WE DO. WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT'S PLANNED FOR IT BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED WHAT IS THAT AMOUNT? WHAT IS THAT? OUR GOAL IS TO PLAN UNDER THAT BUDGET FOR WHAT IS THE AMOUNT UNDER ITS 27 MILLION.

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IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, IT'S 1.8 TO DO THE DESIGN IN OUR BUDGET.

I WASN'T SURE HOW MUCH THAT DESIGN WAS GOING TO COST.

RIGHT. AND SO WE TAGGED 7 MILLION. THIS IS WELL UNDER THAT.

AND THIS DOES INCLUDE THE ENGAGEMENT. YEAH, IT INCLUDES THE ENGAGEMENT.

AND THEN WE WILL OBVIOUSLY MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN AND THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE ALIGNED ONCE WE GET THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EVERYONE INVOLVED. SO WHAT I USED INITIALLY TO BUDGET FOR THOSE DESIGN COSTS WAS JUST MY BACK AND FORTH DISCUSSIONS WITH TEXDOT AND WHAT I THOUGHT IT WOULD COST.

AND IT WAS BUDGETED MUCH HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO DO IT FOR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM. ROSE, I WANT TO THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE KEPT ME INFORMED ON THIS ITEM. AND EVERY CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT.

I THINK YOU OFFER THAT TO EVERY COLLEAGUE AROUND THIS HORSESHOE.

IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS, CONCERNS TO BE INFORMED.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT. THE REASON I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY OR THIS PROJECT IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PROMISED TO NEIGHBORS IN THE CEDARS AND SOUTHERN DALLAS BEING ABLE TO CONNECT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND THIS IS REALLY ONE THING THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THOSE INPUT MEETINGS FROM NEIGHBORS ON WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE OUT OF THIS CONVENTION CENTER, AND THAT CONNECTIVITY WAS ONE OF THE STRONGEST COMPONENTS.

SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL FOLLOW SUIT.

THANK YOU. LET'S THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS ITEM.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES.

NOTED. AGENDA ITEM 73, AUTHORIZED SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER TWO TO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

[73. Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to the Construction Manager at Risk (“CMAR”) Contract with Trinity Alliance Ventures, LLC, a joint venture, to provide (1) City’s acceptance of GMP 2 for construction services for the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas (KBHCCD) Master Plan - Component 1 (hereinafter “the Project”) comprised of the Expansion West of Lamar Only and any related demolition associated with the Project located currently at 650 South Griffin Street, Dallas, Texas 75202 in an amount not to exceed $695,680,181.00 (which includes the CMAR’s contingency of $33,663,971.00); (2) Owner’s contingency of an amount not to exceed $21,799,560.40 for a total Supplemental Agreement No. 2 price not to exceed $717,479,741.40 increasing the total CMAR Contract price to date from $266,914,830.00 to $984,394,571.40 (which includes an owner’s contingency of $21,799,560.40 and a Guaranteed Maximum Price of $695,680,181.00); and (3) the establishment of appropriations in an amount not to exceed $717,479,741.40 in the CCT 2025 Senior Lien Special Tax Revenue Notes Fund - Not to exceed $717,479,741.40 - Financing: CCT 2025 Senior Lien Special Tax Revenue Notes Fund *In alignment with Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas Master Plan.]

KB CCD MASTER PLAN COMPONENT ONE. HEREINAFTER, THE PROJECT COMPRISED OF THE EXPANSION WEST OF LAMAR ONLY AND OTHER RELATED DEMOLITION ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.

LOCATED CURRENTLY AT 65 ZERO SOUTH GRIFFIN STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS 75 202, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $95,680,181. TWO OWNERS CONTINGENCY OF AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 2020 $1,799,560.40, FOR A TOTAL SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT.

NUMBER TWO PRICE NOT TO EXCEED $717,479,741.40, INCREASING THE TOTAL CONTRACT PRICE TO DATE FROM $266,914,830 TO $984,394,571.40. AND THREE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $717,479,741.40 IN THE 2025 SENIOR LIEN SPECIAL TAX REVENUE NOTES FUND, NOT TO EXCEED $17,479,741.40. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY FIVE MINUTES. IF I CAN GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THIS ITEM AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE BREAKDOWN OF THIS, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A LARGE CONTRACT BEING AWARDED TO, TO ONE VENDOR. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DRIVE POLICY TO BREAK THESE CONTRACTS UP AND ALL OF THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S DEMOLITION AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS, THIS IS WORKING AND HOW IT FITS INTO THE NEW DRIVE POLICY.

SURE, I'LL JUMP IN FIRST AND THEN ROSA CAN, CAN AND JACK CAN TAG ANYTHING I'M MISSING.

SO THIS IS OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THERE'S A MEMO COMING OUT TO OUR PRESS RELEASE COMING OUT TODAY, I THINK SAYING DEMO IS UNDERWAY.

WE HAVE A DRONE VISUALS OF A, B AND C, HALLS A, B AND C ARE NOW SEPARATED FROM HALLS D, E, AND F, AND IT'S TIME TO ORDER STEEL. IT'S TIME TO DO DEMO.

IT'S TIME TO GET GOING. AND SO THIS IS A TAKE DOWN OF A PART OF THAT BILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU ALL APPROVED LAST YEAR.

I FORGET THE DATE TO DO ALL OF THAT WORK AND THE FUNDING WILL NOT BE SPENT TOMORROW.

THIS IS FUNDING TO BE SPENT THROUGH 2028 TO KEEP ADVANCING THE CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT.

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BUT THE. SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, THESE THESE THESE, THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS WILL BE USED FOR THOSE SPECIFIC SCOPES OF WORK.

AND IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK WILL THEN BE GOING OUT TO SOLICIT TO ORDER MATERIALS, CONTRACT SUBCONTRACTORS AND ALL OF THAT. SO THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S BEEN WAITING ON.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THAT CLARITY TO BECAUSE I'M CONFUSED. AND I WOULD LIKE TO MEET REGULARLY JUST ON SOME OF THIS TOO, I THINK. AND I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN CALLING ME ROSA, BUT BUT I DO WANT TO MEET JUST SO, BECAUSE I GET CONFUSED SOMETIMES ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT MOVING PIECES OF THIS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS PROJECT, THAT PROJECT ON THIS ONE THOUGH, THIS IS PROJECT NUMBER OR PHASE ONE.

THIS IS THE CONVENTION. THE CONVENTION CENTER SPECIFICALLY. AND THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE GOING TO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER SO THAT THEY CAN BEGIN.

SO THEY CAN GO SOLICITING AND BRINGING IN. SO THIS IS THE TIME FOR ALL OF OUR SUBCONTRACTORS, ALL OF OUR CONTRACTORS TO SAY, HEY, WE UP. AND I ASSUME YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING SOME OUTREACH AND ALL OF THAT AT THIS POINT.

SO YOU RESPOND. SO TRINITY ALLIANCE HAS BEEN DOING THEIR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE WILL BRING BACK AND SHOW OUR HOMEWORK AND SHOW THE NUMBERS TO YOU. THEY'VE ALSO BEEN DOING A LOT OF OUTREACH.

AND SO THE PROCESS WITH THIS IS THEY GO OUT, THEY DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE STREET, FORBID THEY ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE VENDORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALIGNING THEMSELVES.

WE DO HAVE AN OFFSET PROGRAM, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, OWNER CONTROLLED INSURANCE PROGRAM TO HELP THESE VENDORS AS THEY ARE MOVING ALONG THROUGH THE PROJECT. AND THESE ARE LONG TERM AS AS AS ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER BENTLEY SAID, THIS IS WE'LL START APRIL 2026 THROUGH MARCH OF 2028. AND THESE ARE THE THESE ARE THE BIG THINGS.

THIS IS THE ORDERING OF THE STEEL. THIS IS THE ORDERING OF THE CONCRETE.

THIS IS LOOKING AT AT THE ORDERS THAT WILL NEED TO START TO DEFINE THE PIERS.

IF YOU WE ARE GOING TO SEND YOU THE VIDEO. IF YOU LOOK AT THE WEBSITE.

WW CC MASTERPLAN COMM, YOU'LL SEE THE DRONE VIDEO WHERE THE BUILDING HAS BEEN SEPARATED IN PREPARATION FOR THE WALL DROP ALONG C AND THEN TO BEGIN DEMOLITION ALONG T TX ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE BOUGHT NOT LONG AGO AND THEN BEGIN TO DEMOLISH DEAF. AND SO IF YOU GO AND DRIVE THE SITE, YOU'LL START TO SEE THAT THERE'S ALREADY BEEN SOME FENCING PUT UP, AND THERE'LL BE MORE FENCING THAT WILL GO UP.

WE WILL ARE PLANNING TO HAVE AN EVENT IN MARCH WHERE WE WILL ALLOW COUNCIL TO GO AND KIND OF SEE THE KICK OFF OF SOME OF THE MAJOR DEMOLITION.

MORE TO COME. WE'LL ISSUE A MEMO FOR THAT, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S CALENDAR IS ALIGNED, AND YOU'LL START TO SEE THE ACTUAL MOVEMENT THAT EVERYONE'S BEEN WAITING FOR. AND JUST TO TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, WE IN OUR LAST BRIEFING, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE THAT PEOPLE CANNOT SEE ON THE OUTSIDE OF A BUILDING. AND SO IT'S THE DE-BONING OF THE BUILDING AND A LOT OF SUSTAINABILITY THAT ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, WE'VE SENT BACK AND I'LL LET CARLOS TALK ABOUT THE TONNAGE.

WE'VE SENT BACK A TON OF CEILING TILES, A TON OF CARPET.

THINGS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE GONE INTO THE LANDFILL.

AND SO, ALTHOUGH YOU CANNOT SEE IT, WE DO HAVE A PICTORIAL MONTAGE THAT WILL SEND OUT TO COUNCIL SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S BEEN DONE ON THE INSIDE, AND THEN LOOK AT THE DRONE FOOTAGE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE OUTSIDE. AND JUST BEFORE YOU SAY THAT AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, I HAVE FULL FAITH IN YOU ALL, LIKE, THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

FROM THIS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SET OUT.

AND IT IS. SO FAR, IT'S GOING GOOD. WE HAD THIS BIG CELEBRATION OF THE INCLUSION, THE INTENTIONAL INCLUSION ABOUT IT.

SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT LEVEL OF MOMENTUM.

SO WHEN I'M ASKING YOU ABOUT THE CONVENTION, THAT'S THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I'M COMING FROM.

EVERY NOW AND THEN I MAY ASK YOU ABOUT SOME STUFF I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IN TERMS OF BUILDING AND STUFF, BUT THIS IS THE INCLUSION PART OF IT AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY CONSTRUCTION COMMUNITY IS KIND OF LIKE, WELL, THEY'RE AFRAID THEY'RE MISSING OUT ON SOMETHING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I'M JUST AGAIN, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT TWO THAT THIS TEAM YOU ALL ARE ALSO COMMITTED TO THE DRIVE POLICY AS WELL, WHICH I KNOW YOU ARE, BUT I JUST I'M JUST GETTING ALL THIS OUT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME TENSION AND EVERYBODY'S GETTING ANXIOUS.

BUT THIS IS THE TIME NOW NO LONGER TO BE ANXIOUS.

BE READY. YES, EXACTLY. AND I THINK THERE WAS THAT SAME TENSION.

YOU SAW IT ON THE STREET WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT GMP ONE, AND WE WERE JUST IN THE CONTINUING OPERATIONS COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT IN THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN AFTER THAT, THERE WAS A LULL BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH ACTIVITY FROM TRINITY ALLIANCE AND INSPIRE AS THEY WENT OUT INTO THE STREET

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YOU'LL SEE THAT SAME LEVEL OF INTENSITY AND THAT SAME LEVEL OF EFFORT WITH GMP TWO.

OKAY. AND THEN LAST QUESTION WHEN, WHEN I GUESS FOR THE THE CONTRACTS WILL BE BROKEN UP. AND I'M JUST GOING BACK TO THAT DRIVE POLICY AND MAKING SURE IT'LL BE IN SMALL ENOUGH PIECES.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE MANAGEMENT OF MULTIPLE CONTRACTS FOR THE SAME SCOPE, BUT IT'LL BE IN SMALL ENOUGH PIECES THAT CAN BE MANAGED AND ALL OF THAT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THAT COMMITMENT ON A PUBLIC STATEMENT AND I'LL LET YOU GO. MR..

SIR. OKAY. MAYBE A BIT OF A RECAP. CARLOS AGUILAR INSPIRED DALLAS THE THE PROCESS THAT WE LAUNCHED LAST YEAR HAD A SEQUENCE, RIGHT? THE FIRST WAS THE PRE ENABLING WORKS, WHICH WAS ALL THIS WORK THAT WE HAD TO DO TO KEEP CONTINUING OPERATIONS AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THIS IS TO THE EAST OF LAMAR. SO KEEPING ALL THAT OPERATING THE RAMP THAT IF YOU DRIVE DOWN GRIFFIN, YOU SEE JUST NOW, IT'S PART OF THAT DESIGN. ADDITIONAL EFFORT FROM PERKINS AND WEIL THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THAT.

RIGHT. AND THAT RAMP IS TO BE ABLE TO EXIT FROM THE LOADING DOCK ONTO LAMAR AND BE ABLE TO BUILD ON THE WEST SIDE OF LAMAR.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. PRE ENABLING MEANS SEPARATE THESE TWO.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING JUST NOW INCLUDING THE SEPARATION OF LAMAR.

THE VIDEO THAT RUSSELL WAS TALKING ABOUT. THE NEXT STEP WAS ENABLING WORKS, WHICH IS DEMOLITION WHICH IS ALREADY STARTING.

SO LOTS OF INTERNAL DEMOLITION HAS HAPPENED, INCLUDING AND LOTS OF VENDORS INCLUDED IN THIS, BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, SMALLER COMPANIES HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK ALREADY, AND THESE ARE TRUCKLOADS OF EVERYTHING FROM TILE MATERIAL TO CARPET THAT'S BEING RECYCLED. WE'LL HAVE VIDEOS AND REPORTS ON THIS THAT WE'LL BRING TO YOU AS WELL.

BUT IT'S ALSO THE WINDOW FRAME. SO THE WINDOW RECOVERY OF THE WHOLE SECTION THAT'S BEING DEMOLISHED, THIS IS 400,000FT² WORTH OF SPACE THAT NOW HAS BEEN DECOMMISSIONED.

LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. AND NOW COMES THE HARD DEMOLITION, WHICH IS THE NEXT STEP.

AND THIS IS WHY YOU SEE LOTS OF EQUIPMENT DOWN ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER ON LAMAR STAGE THERE.

THAT'S STARTING THAT DEEPER DEMOLITION. AND AGAIN, THESE ARE LOTS OF VENDORS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS.

WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS THE NEXT PHASE.

SO THE NEXT PHASE IS ALL THE FOUNDATIONS THAT WILL BE BUILT.

IT'S THE STEEL THAT HAS TO BE ORDERED. AND YES, SOME ARE THESE SIGNIFICANT QUANTITIES.

RIGHT. AND THERE WILL BE SUBS RELATED TO ALL THAT.

THAT WOULD BE HIRED. BUT NOT ONLY FOR THE SUPPLY OF THE STEEL, ALSO FOR THE ERECTION OF THE STEEL.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WORKFORCE AND, YOU KNOW, UP TO 2000 OR SO WORKERS ON SITE THAT WILL BE DOING ALL OF THIS WORK.

AND THAT IS ALSO CONCRETE INCLUDED. AND BEYOND THAT, THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET ARE ALL THE STAFFING FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. SO THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER CAN BE ABLE TO ASSIGN ALL THIS WORK AND ENSURE THAT THE SUBCONTRACTING, THEY'RE NOT DOING SUBCONTRACTING DIRECT WORK.

SO ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE SUBCONTRACTED WITH OTHER FIRMS. AND THEREFORE, ALL THE STAFFING REQUIRED TO DO ALL OF THAT ALLOCATION, THE SUPPORT THE WORK TRAINING AND ALSO THE EXECUTION OF WORKS BY ALL THESE SUBS. SO ALL OF THAT FOR TWO YEARS IS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET.

I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, CHAIR RIDLEY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO WHEN WAS THE ORIGINAL CMAA CONTRACT ENTERED INTO.

IT WAS NOVEMBER 23RD. I'M SORRY. WHEN? NOVEMBER 23RD, 19, 2023? YEP. OKAY, SO ABOUT A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO.

SO MY QUESTION PERTAINS TO WHY THE CMAA CONTRACT PRICE IS ESCALATING FROM 266 MILLION TO 984 MILLION. IT'S. IT'S NOT ESCALATING. SO THIS IS THIS PROJECT IS BROKEN UP INTO MULTIPLE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE CONTRACTS.

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IT DID NOT COVER THE LARGER THE LARGER PURCHASES FOR STEEL.

WE WERE STILL GOING TO NEED TO COME TO YOU, SHOW YOU THE ADVANCED DESIGN SO THAT YOU COULD SEE THE BUILDING SO THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO THIS REPRESENTS THAT NATURAL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WORK.

SO WHEN YOU SAY AN ITEM SUB ONE CITY'S ACCEPTANCE OF GMP TWO FOR CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.

WHAT I UNDERSTAND YOU TO BE SAYING IS THAT WITH UNDER THE CMAA CONTRACT, THERE ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE MULTIPLE GMP.

WHAT CONTRACTS AMENDMENTS THERE SUPPLEMENTALS THAT ATTACH TO THE CONTRACT.

SO WHEN WE FIRST AWARDED THE CONTRACT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER WITH TRINITY ALLIANCE, WE AWARDED FIRST THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT SO THAT THEY COULD COME IN AND ADVANCE THE PROJECT FROM PRE-CONSTRUCTION.

SO YOU'RE ADDING TO THE SCOPE OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT WITH SUBSEQUENT GMP PACKAGES.

BASICALLY, THEY HAVE AGREED TO BUILD THE ENTIRE THING AS THEY BID AND PRICE EACH SECTION.

WE'RE BRINGING YOU THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE FOR THAT PART OF IT.

AND WE'LL BRING FUTURES AS THEY PRICE AND GUARANTEE EACH ADDITIONAL COMPONENT.

SO DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY ADDITIONAL GMP PACKAGES AFTER THIS ONE? SURE. YEAH. AND WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THOSE.

WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THEY PRICE IT WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER IS.

BUT THE TOTAL OF ALL OF THAT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE UNDER OUR, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATED FINANCEABLE AMOUNT.

AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THOSE OVER THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD.

SO THIS IS GOING TO EXTEND UP TO OUR PROJECT BUDGET, WHATEVER THAT IS.

OVER THREE. CORRECT. SO ALL OF THAT WILL FALL UNDER THIS CMA, OUR CONTRACT AT SOME POINT.

CORRECT. HOW MANY GMP PACKAGES DO YOU ANTICIPATE? WELL, CURRENTLY IT'S PLANNED TO BE FOUR. COULD BE 4 OR 5 IN THAT RANGE.

IT DEPENDS ON THE SCOPES THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN SPLIT.

THE MAIN ITEMS HERE ARE LONG LEAD ITEMS THAT HAVE TO BE CONTRACTED NOW TO KEEP THE SCHEDULE.

SO THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, IT'S FOUNDATION WORK. IT'S STEEL WORK THAT HAS TO BE IN PLACE, PLUS ALL THE STAFFING REQUIRED FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

SO DOES THIS GMP TWO PACKAGE INCLUDE THE CONSTRUCTION OF AT LEAST THE SHELL OF THE BUILDING? HOW IS THE GMP? HOW ARE THE GMP PACKAGES GOING TO BE? IT INCLUDES STEEL AND THE ERECTION OF THE STEEL.

OKAY. AND THE NEXT SCOPES WILL BE BROUGHT TO YOU SEQUENTIALLY.

AND THOSE WILL BE THE WALLS, THE ROOF, THE FINISH MATERIALS AND THEN ENVELOPE AND THEN ENCLOSURE.

YEP. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON THANK YOU.

MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE GMP PROCESS HERE.

CITY MANAGER AND I KNOW I ASKED YOU THIS, SO JUST MAKE SURE THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE A FULL BRIEFING ON THE CONVENTION CENTER BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS. AND SO IF I CAN GET I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A DAY OR SO BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.

IF I CAN GET TOTALLY DEBRIEFED ON ON THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THAT THAT'S IT.

IF I COULD, COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON, I'LL EXTEND THIS INVITATION TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO IS INTERESTED.

COME ON OUT TO THE INSPIRED DALLAS OFFICES AND WE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH.

IT'S A HUGE PROJECT WITH A LOT OF PARTS, BUT THIS TEAM KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY'VE WALKED OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THROUGH IT.

ALL OF YOU ARE WELCOME ANY TIME TO COME, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME ON OVER TO DISTRICT FOUR TO THE COMMUNITY OFFICE, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A I KNOW IT'S A BIG PROJECT, AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE GMP AND THE PROCESS THAT WE THAT THAT IS BEING USED.

SO I KIND OF I'VE DONE THIS WORK BEFORE, LIKE I SAID, AND FOR SIX YEARS AS A TRUSTEE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU THINK THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET THINGS DONE IN A SMOOTHER WAY.

GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER.

COUNCILMEMBER ROTH, FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THIS IS GETTING TO BE A HUGE PROJECT.

IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING TO ME. WE'RE WE'RE AUTHORIZING 25% OF THE OVERALL COST IN FUNDS.

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I DON'T THINK THE ANSWER IS THE ANSWER IS NOT YES.

IT'S IS IT? THE STRUCTURAL DESIGN IS COMPLETE, STRUCTURAL DESIGN IS DONE.

AND THAT'S ALLOCATING TO THIS PARTICULAR MAXIMUM CONTRACT.

YES. SECTION CORRECT. OKAY. AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH DESIGN DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS THE NEXT STEP.

OKAY. SO YOU DO THIS. SO AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS YOU'RE DOING.

YOU'RE DESIGN YOU'RE DESIGNING STUFF AS YOU'RE GOING ALONG AND YOU'RE IN YOU'RE BUILDING IT AS YOU'RE GOING IT ALONG AND YOU'RE GETTING THE MONEY AS YOU'RE GOING ALONG.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT BAKED YET. IT'S NOT HERE'S ALL THE PLANS.

HERE'S HERE'S ALL OUR BIDS. HERE'S HERE'S WHERE WE NEED TO GET THE MONEY FROM, WHICH WOULD BE IN A SIMPLE CONTRACT FORM.

THIS IS A COMPLICATED PROJECT, I GET IT. SO WE'RE IN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT NOW, AND SO THE STRUCTURAL PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS COMPLETE.

THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING HAS BEEN PROGRAMED.

AND SO NOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS MOVING ON TO THE INTERIOR SO THAT THEY CAN START TO PRICE THE INTERIOR PORTION.

BUT THE LAYOUT OF THE PROGRAMING AND THE BUILDING, MINUS A FEW VERY SMALL COMPONENTS HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

SO WHAT THE AND WE'LL WE'LL SPEAK TO YESTERDAY'S MEETING.

YESTERDAY'S MEETING WAS ENTIRELY ABOUT INTERIORS.

IT WAS THE COLORS, THE FABRICATION, ALL OF THAT FOR THE INTERIOR FLOW OF THE BUILDING AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND SO ONCE THEY'RE DONE WITH THAT AND THE CITY IS SATISFIED AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WILL BRING TO THIS BODY TO LET YOU LOOK AT BEFORE WE GO FORWARD AND PRICE THAT. BUT THE BUILDING IN TERMS OF PROGRAMING AND STRUCTURAL IS ALREADY DONE.

SO THE 700 MILLION IS THAT ARE THOSE NUMBERS COMING FROM SOMEWHERE? ARE THESE BIDS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED? THESE ARE HARD NUMBERS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT.

AND SO THESE ARE MAXIMUM PRICING PROVISIONS. AND THEY'RE BASED ON SET DESIGNS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE.

YES. ESPECIALLY IN THE LONG LEAD ITEMS, WHICH IS THE ONES THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

RIGHT. THE STEEL YOU HAVE TO ORDER, I GET IT.

YOU KNOW, 12 TO 14 MONTHS IN ADVANCE AND I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU UP ALL ON, ON THIS.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT IT MIGHT BE MORE CONVENIENT FOR ALL OF US IF WE HAD A REGULAR UPDATED, OF COURSE REVIEW ON THIS STUFF MONTHLY. IF THE IF THE TRAIN IS NOW LEAVING THE STATION, WE SHOULD KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING AND NOT WAIT TILL WE'RE THERE AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT DID WE DO. IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER. THIS IS A COMPLICATED PROJECT.

IT'S GOING TO GO ON FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT IF WE ALL KNEW.

THE OTHER THING IS, DO YOU ALL? WHICH I'M SURE YOU DO CREATE SOME KIND OF A CONSTRUCTION.

TIMELINE AND COMPLETION SCHEDULE THAT IS IS AVAILABLE ON A MONTHLY OR WEEKLY OR HOW DO YOU ALL DO THAT? SO PART OF THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE THAT WE DELIVERED TO YOU.

IT SHOWS THE SCHEDULE YOU KNOW, AS ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED, GOING TO THE END OF THE PROJECT.

SO YOU HAVE THE, THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND THE FUTURE THAT WILL COME AS PART OF THAT EXERCISE THAT WE DO ROUTINELY.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY FOR MY MIND, BECAUSE I'M GETTING CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ALL THE LAYERS OF SUPERVISION AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND WHO'S LOOKING AT WHAT, WHO'S LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, WHO'S OUR WHO'S OUR OVERSIGHT FOLKS, THE INSPIRE PEOPLE. SURE. THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE HAVE A WE HAVE A PROGRAM MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT WE HIRED IN SEPTEMBER 2023. WE HAVE THE DESIGN TEAM. THIS IS INSPIRED DALLAS LED BY CARLOS AND JACK CARLOS MET JACK MATTHEWS AND CARLOS.

WE HAVE. AND YOU MET TOM BURKE WHO IS WITH PERKINS AND WILL, AND HE IS THE LEAD ON THE DESIGN FOR THE PROJECT. THEY HAVE ENGAGED POPULACE AS PART OF THEIR TEAM AND THEN WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK IS TRINITY ALLIANCE, WHICH IS A JOINT VENTURE OF AECOM AND TURNER AND THEN NINE OTHER COMPANIES.

SO SO INSIGHT INSPIRE. RATHER, YOU ARE OUR EYES AND EARS ON THIS PROJECT.

YOU ARE. YOU ARE DESIGNATED AND AND REQUIRED TO TELL US WHERE WE ARE TO MONITOR THESE FOLKS AND TO PAY ATTENTION ON HOW WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY. THAT'S CORRECT. AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE REGULAR MEETINGS FROM YOU TO SORT OF GIVE US.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO BE COUNCIL ME OR MAYBE THEIR COMMITTEE MEETINGS OR MAYBE THEIR AD HOC MEETINGS,

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YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS A LOT OF US DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK, QUITE FRANKLY. AND THIS IS A COMPLICATED PROJECT, AND I THINK YOU NEED TO BE EXPLAINING TO US WHAT YOU SHOULD BE EXPLAINING TO US, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND HOW WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY.

WHERE DOES THE $700 MILLION IS IS THAT WHERE THAT MONEY IS ALLOCATED? BUT ARE WE DO WE HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN SOMEWHERE? ARE WE BORROWING IT AT THIS POINT, OR ARE WE JUST BASICALLY APPROVING IT FOR TAKE DOWN AS WE PAY THE BILLS? SO THIS IS PART OF THE $1 BILLION CONSTRUCTION LOAN.

SO WE'LL DRAW IT. AND WE'RE NOT DRAWING THE FUNDS UNTIL WE NEED IT.

SO YOU'LL NOT SEE A DRAW WHEN WE DRAW $717 MILLION AT ONE TIME.

IT'S ALREADY IN. IT'S ALREADY IN THE BANK. IT'S ALREADY THAT BILLION DOLLARS.

WAS THAT ORIGINAL BILLION DOLLAR LOAN. YES. SO WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TAKING ON ADDITIONAL DEBT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THIS COMPONENT JACK STANDING UP.

SO I'LL JUMP IN. IT'S NOT IN THE BANK. IT'S A LINE OF CREDIT I MEAN IT'S A LINE.

I'M SAYING IT'S NOT IN THE. I'M SORRY. IT WAS A IT WAS A EUPHEMISM.

IT'S IT'S A LINE OF CREDIT. THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR.

CAN I JUST ADD AN ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY? THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND WE FELT THE NEED TO CREATE AN ACTUAL WEEKLY COMMUNICATION THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SENDING OUT EVERY FRIDAY.

IF COUNCIL WANTS SOMETHING MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS PROVIDING THAT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WEEKLY COMMUNICATION THAT GOES FROM THE CITY MANAGER, THERE IS A UPDATE EVERY SINGLE WEEK ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE CONVENTION CENTER PROJECT, WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED FOR THAT PRIOR WEEK AND WHAT'S COMING NEXT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED. I WASN'T ABSOLUTELY CLEAR ABOUT THE FRIDAY MEETINGS. THANK YOU. NOT NOT A THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 73.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. OPPOSED? NO. NOTED. MADAM MAYOR, AGENDA ITEM 74 AUTHORIZED

[74. Authorize settlement in lieu of proceeding further with condemnation in the condemnation suit styled City of Dallas vs. Charter DMN Holdings, LP, Cause No. CC-25-07080-D, of approximately 36,227 square feet of land located near the intersection of Young and Houston Streets for the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Dallas (KBHCCD) Master Plan Component 1 Convention Center Expansion Project - Not to exceed $4,793,758.00 increased from $6,553,040.00 ($6,521,040.00, plus closing costs and title expenses not to exceed $32,000.00) to $11,346,798.00 ($11,300,000.00, plus closing costs and title expenses not to exceed $46,798.00) - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund *In alignment with Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Plan.]

THE CONDEMNATION SUIT STYLE CITY OF DALLAS VERSUS CHARTER DMN HOLDINGS, L.P.

OF APPROXIMATELY 36,227FT² OF LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF YOUNG AND HOUSTON STREETS FOR THE KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON CONVENTION CENTER, DALLAS KB CCD MASTER PLAN COMPONENT ONE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION PROJECT NOT TO EXCEED $4,793,758, INCREASED FROM $6,553,040 TO $11,346,798. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS ITEM IS BEING CORRECTED. THE ITEM LIST THE COUNCIL DISTRICT AT SIX, WHEN IT SHOULD BE LISTED AS COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MADAM MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM 75, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING

[75. A resolution authorizing (1) the Dallas City Council to appoint a nominating commission; and (2) the City Manager to utilize XXX as the firm responsible for the search process to fill the City Auditor position - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information)]

MADAM MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, CHAIR WEST, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO, I MOVE TO APPOINT THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THE CITY AUDITOR NOMINATING COMMISSION.

ONE LEANNE SHEFFIELD. TWO KEVIN. MARCH 3RD. HONORABLE.

HONORABLE PAULINE MEDRANO. FOUR JOHN STEPHENS AND FIVE MICHELLE VARNEY.

AND ALSO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO USE THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM HIRE TO ASSIST THE NOMINATING COMMISSION.

MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. SO MOTION AND A SECOND.

CAN I. COMMENTS. YES. DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. AND THANKS TO THE COMMITTEE FOR TOLERATING THE THE EXPEDITED PROCESS HERE. WHEN WE HEARD FROM MR. SWANN, HE WAS GOING TO BE RETIRING ON SAINT PATRICK'S DAY.

WE WE WE JUMPED RIGHT INTO IT. UNLIKE THE OTHER CITY POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE TO FILL, IT'S PRESCRIBED VERY CLEARLY IN DALLAS CITY CODE.

THE PROCESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO TO HIRE THE NEXT CITY AUDITOR.

PART OF THAT PROCESS INCLUDES NOMINATING A COMMISSION OF PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN BE FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS,

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AND I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FOR STEPPING UP TO NOMINATE THE INDIVIDUALS AND MAKING SURE THEY WERE ALL VETTED. SO ONCE THIS IS HOPEFULLY APPROVED TODAY WE WILL BE MEETING WEDNESDAY.

SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO TALK TO A SUGGESTED INTERIM AUDITOR.

WHICH HAS BEEN SUGGESTED BY MR. SWANN SO WE CAN GET THAT POSITION HOPEFULLY APPOINTED NEXT WEDNESDAY BEFORE WE GO ON BREAK.

AND THAT WAY WE WON'T HAVE ANY GAP IN OUR AUDITOR.

WHEN MR. SWANN LEAVES AND WE'RE ON SPRING BREAK.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, COLLEAGUES. WE'RE MOVING, MOVING FORWARD PRETTY WELL.

THE SEARCH FIRM THAT WE ARE GOING TO HOPEFULLY APPROVE HERE IN A MINUTE, WILL WORK WITH THIS NOMINATING COMMISSION AND BRING US SOME CANDIDATES IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. AND THAT IS IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 75.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES AGENDA ITEM 76.

[76. Authorize approval to amend the Office of the City Auditor’s Fiscal Year 2026 Audit Plan previously approved on November 12, 2025, by Resolution No. 25-2958A; received a request from the Committee on Government Efficiency proposing the following audit be prioritized and added to the approved Fiscal Year 2026 Audit Work Plan: Cost Benefit Analysis of Women, Infant, and Children Program Audit - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF WOMEN, INFANT AND CHILDREN PROGRAM AUDIT.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MADAM MAYOR. MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM. MOVE TO BE RECOGNIZED.

YES. WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH OUT. OKAY. OKAY.

CHAIR WEST, I MOVE TO TAKE ITEM 65, THE HALPERIN PARK ITEM, OFF THE TABLE TO DISCUSS IT NOW.

OKAY. CHAIR MAXCY. THANK YOU FOR SECONDING CHAIR MAXCY.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW FIRST, WE GOT TO VOTE ON TAKING IT UP.

ALL RIGHT. RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? NO. SEEING? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

NOW, CHAIR JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW YOUR ORIGINAL MOTION? YES. I MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES. CHAIR JOHNSON, FIVE MINUTES.

YES. I WANT TO THANK CITY MANAGER AND HER TEAM FOR A STRONG DISCUSSION IN THE BACK.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER OF DISTRICT FOUR, THAT I HAVE TO THERE HAS TO BE COMMUNICATION.

I HAVE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY DISTRICT SO I CAN MAKE DECISIONS.

AND AND I SUPPORT HARPER AND PARK. I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED HARPER AND PARK AND MISS ALLEN SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE TRUSTEE.

I THINK IT'S A IT'S IS GREAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

MYSELF AND WES ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

HOWEVER, I JUST WANT THE RESPECT THAT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS SO I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S IT. SO THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES, MADAM CITY SECRETARY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR THESE, CONCLUDE YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

[ZONING CASES - CONSENT]

COUNCILMEMBER BLAIR.

YES. MR.. MAYOR ON ITEM Z9. I MOVE TO HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER.

I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL MARCH 25TH, 2026.

IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES, I WILL I HAVEN'T HAD ANY ANY CONVERSATION WITH THIS.

AND THE FACT THAT IT'S A CS, WHICH IS A VERY INTENSE INDUSTRIAL ZONING FOR ANOTHER MOTOR VEHICLE

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THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

THERE'S A MOTION. AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA.

YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEM Z ONE THROUGH Z 14.

ITEM Z ONE HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR.

ITEM Z FOUR HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

ITEM Z SEVEN HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

ITEM Z NINE WAS PREVIOUSLY DEFERRED. ITEM Z10 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR, AND ITEM Z 13 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS Z2, Z3.

Z5, Z6, Z8, Z11, Z12 AND Z14. I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.

ITEM Z2 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING ONE.

I AM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING DISTRICT AND TWO AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2003 FOR AN INDUSTRIAL OUTSIDE.

POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE USE. LIMITED TO A CONCRETE BATCH PLANT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LUNA ROAD AND RYAN ROAD.

ITEM Z3 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING SUB DISTRICT C ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF LINDSLEY AVENUE AND SOUTHWEST LINE OF SOUTH MUNGER BOULEVARD. ITEM Z5 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING ONE AN AMENDMENT TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL OFFICE AREA, ONE SUBDISTRICT, AND TWO A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH, WITH CONSIDERATION FOR MEDIUM COMMERCIAL OFFICE SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF TATUM AVENUE AND WEST DAVIS STREET.

ITEM Z6 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW PLAN.

DEVELOPMENT. SUBDISTRICT FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ON THE EAST CORNER OF MAPLE AVENUE AND MAHAN STREET. ITEM Z8 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2467 FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT LIMITED TO A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN AND A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF ELM STREET, NORTHEAST OF NORTH AKARD STREET.

ITEM Z11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A POTENTIALLY INCOMPATIBLE INDUSTRIAL OUTSIDE USE, LIMITED TO WOOD OR LUMBER PROCESSING ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF MONONA DRIVE, EAST OF SPANGLER ROAD. ITEM Z12 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING NEW SUBAREA ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BERKSHIRE LANE AND LOMO ALTO DRIVE, AND ITEM Z14 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR VEHICLE DISPLAY, SALES AND SERVICE ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF NORTH PEARL STREET, SOUTHWEST LINE OF CROCKETT STREET, AND SOUTHEAST LINE OF SAN JACINTO STREET.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ONE OF YOUR ZONING CONSENT ITEMS OR ITEM ZONING CONSENT ITEM Z SIX. THE HONORABLE PHILIP KINGSTON. HAS CANCELED.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA? ITEMS THAT WERE JUST PREVIOUSLY READ INTO THE RECORD ITEM Z2, Z3, Z5, Z6, Z8, Z11, Z12 AND Z14.

NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION MOVED TO APPROVE? THERE'S A MOTION TO SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCIL MEMBER.

GRACEY. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT Z2. WE PROVED THAT WE APPROVED THAT WHEN IT WAS ON CONSENT.

WE APPROVED IT WITHOUT DISCUSSION AND ALL OF THAT, AND IT WAS ANOTHER BATCH PLAN.

I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD ABOUT BATCH PLANS IN THAT VERY SAME LOCATION.

WHEN BJ WANTED TO COME AND PUT SOMETHING OVER THERE AND WE DENIED IT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY HIGHLIGHT THIS BECAUSE I KNEW IT WOULD COME BACK THAT WE APPROVED THIS ON CONSENT WITHOUT DISCUSSION OVER THAT.

SO I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

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I UNDERSTAND, I JUST SAY I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN.

GRACEY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR EQUITY. THANK YOU. CHAIR.

MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST SAY, IN LOOKING AT OUR ENTIRE ZONING AGENDA.

WE HAVE AN AVERAGE OF 201 DAYS AND AN AVERAGE OF 28 WEEKS FROM THE TIME IT WAS SUBMITTED TO TODAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE'LL NOW GO BACK TO YOUR FIRST ZONING ITEM.

[Z1. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2480 for the sale of alcoholic beverages on property zoned CR Community Retail District with D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the northeast corner of Kleberg Road and Carleta Street Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for an 18-month period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z234-183(JG) / Z-25-000115 *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. MEGAN WEIMER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 20 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA.

REQUEST WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM C ONE NO SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND MATTER OF Z1. I MOVE TO DENY THIS REQUEST.

THERE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILMEMBER BLAIR? FIVE MINUTES.

IF YOU READ THE REPORT YOU'LL SEE. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS REQUEST ONLY HAD AN 18 MONTH SUCH AS THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSIONER. I ONLY GAVE IT 18 MONTHS BECAUSE IT WAS A PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEMS ARE STILL IN EXISTENCE. IF YOU READ THE REPORT AND YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE THE, THE CASES THAT THE CRIME REPORT, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CRIME AT THIS ONE LOCATION.

I'M NOT GOING TO APPROVE BAD BEHAVIOR THAT I ALREADY GAVE A WARNING TO.

SO I ASK THAT YOU MOVE WITH ME TO DENY THIS CASE ANY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

YOUR NEXT ZONING ITEM Z4. ITEM Z4 IS A PUBLIC

[Z4. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new Specific Use Permit for a public school other than an open-enrollment charter school on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the south line of Arapaho Road and the north line of La Cosa Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a site plan, traffic management plan, and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a site plan, traffic management plan, and conditions Z-25-000103 *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

WE RECEIVED EIGHT REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND 15 REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, JAMES WATSON. MR. WATSON, YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

RIGHT HERE. MR. WATSON. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM.

YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. OKAY. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

MY NAME IS JAMES WATSON, 400 SOUTH GREENVILLE AVENUE, RICHARDSON, TEXAS, 75081.

I REPRESENT RICHARDSON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. I'M THE SENIOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS.

AND REALLY, TODAY, I'M HERE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAY HAVE, BUT BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE OUR COLLABORATION WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH ON THIS THIS PROJECT, OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN ENGAGED WITH US TO DEVELOP THE ZONING CASE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY AS WELL AS OUR DESIGN ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS. SO I JUST WANTED TO SEND PRAISE AND THANKS TO THOSE FOLKS FOR HELPING US GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

AND AGAIN, JUST TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER. LEE ESTES. HELLO.

MY NAME IS LEE ESTES. I'M ALSO WITH RICHARDSON ISD AND I'M ON JUST ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IN NECESSITOUS.

YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING. CAN YOU SEE ME?

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YES. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES FOR RICHARDSON ISD, AND I AM ONLINE JUST TO SUPPORT AND ALSO TO HELP JAMES WATSON WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z FOR NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO THANK YOU. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION, SUBJECT TO A REVISED SITE PLAN AND WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, A MINIMUM OF FOUR OF EACH OF THE FOLLOWING PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES MUST BE PROVIDED ALONG STREET FRONTAGES, BENCH TRASH RECEPTACLES, AND BICYCLE RACKS. SECOND.

I'M NOT FINISHED YET. ALL. SECONDLY, THE ALL OUTDOOR LIGHTING MUST BE CONSTRUCTED AND MAINTAINED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE AND MUST BE DIRECTED AWAY FROM ADJOINING PROPERTIES.

THIRD, LIGHT STANDARDS FOR TENNIS COURTS MAY BE PROVIDED AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, AND MUST MEET THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

THEY MAY NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN A REQUIRED YARD.

THEY MAY NOT EXCEED 35FT IN HEIGHT. LIGHTING FOR TENNIS COURTS MAY ONLY OPERATE BETWEEN 6 A.M.

AND 10 P.M. MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND LIGHTING MUST MEET THE INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY ASSOCIATION STANDARDS FOR COMMUNITY FRIENDLY SPORTS LIGHTING DESIGN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU WANT TO REPEAT THAT? IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE RICHARDSON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT WITH OUR CITY PLANNING STAFF, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS REPRESENTATIVES. WE'RE REALLY VERY CONSTRUCTIVE.

AND THIS WAS A A AN EVENT AND A AND A ACTIVITY THAT WAS REALLY SHOWS THE BEST OF HOW COOPERATION CAN COME TO BUILD A A PROJECT THAT WILL BENEFIT THE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS.

AND I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT EVERYBODY VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

THIS IS BASICALLY THE DEVELOPMENT OF A OF A NEW BUILDING OF A NEW SCHOOL THE WESTWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL IN, IN OUR DISTRICT. THANK YOU. CHAIR MENDELSOHN.

WELL, THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO SAY FIRST, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE LIKE YOUR FIRST VERY CONTENTIOUS ZONING CASE.

AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S NOBODY HERE. SO YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

I KNOW RISD WAS VERY INVOLVED AS WELL, BUT THIS WAS A VERY BIG TOPIC IN OUR AREA.

Y'ALL MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, BUT THIS WAS ACTUALLY MY JUNIOR HIGH.

THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME, SO IT IS WAY PAST TIME FOR A NEW BUILDING FOR THAT.

AND A REDO. BUT IT DOES BACK UP TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE ADDRESSED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

AND SO I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING A GREAT JOB.

THE ATTENDANCE BOUNDARY INCLUDES PARTS OF DISTRICT 12.

I KNOW THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND THEY DID CHANGE THE MASCOT OVER THE YEARS, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S STILL WESTWOOD WARRIORS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS NOW, BUT THE WOLVES. OKAY, WELL, STILL A W ALL THAT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR SHEPHERDING THIS IN SUCH A GOOD WAY. AND THE ONLY THING I'D SUGGEST TO YOU IS THAT PERHAPS, PERHAPS EXTENDING THE TIME FRAME EVEN MORE SO THAT THEY DON'T EVER HAVE TO COME BACK.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING. NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

YOUR NEXT ITEM IS C7. ITEM C7 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE

[Z7. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service zoned Planned Development District No. 805 with D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the north line of Lake June Road, and east line of North Masters Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval for a five-year period with eligibility for auto renewals for additional five-year periods, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a five-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z-25-000144 *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 122 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR TO THE REQUEST OF THE REQUEST, AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

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ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU MAY CONTINUE.

GOOD EVENING. ROB BALDWIN, 3904 ELM STREET, SUITE B.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER. REQUEST FOR AN SUP.

SO A NEW RESTAURANT COMING INTO THE SHOPPING CENTER CAN SERVE ALCOHOL WITH THEIR MEALS.

AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM C7.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.

THE HOURS OF OPERATION, OUTSIDE SPEAKERS AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE REMOVED.

EXACTLY. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND COUNCIL MEMBER.

RESENDEZ FIVE MINUTES. REALLY? BRIEFLY. SINCE THIS SUP IS ONLY FOR ALCOHOL SALES AT A RESTAURANT, WE CANNOT, ACCORDING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, INCLUDE CONDITIONS TO REGULATE HOURS OF OPERATION OUTSIDE SPEAKERS AND PARKING REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM IS Z10.

[Z10. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting (1) a new Planned Development District for R-10(A) Single Family District uses and standards and (2) a new Specific Use Permit for a commercial amusement (outside), with consideration for A(A) Agricultural District, on property zoned R-10(A) Single Family District, on north line of Leon Drive and south line of Prairie Creek Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval of (1) A(A) Agricultural District and (2) a new Specific Use Permit for a commercial amusement (outside) in lieu of a new Planned Development District, subject to a site plan and Specific Use Permit conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval of (1) a new Planned Development District for R-10(A) Single Family District uses and standards and (2) a new Specific Use Permit for a commercial amusement (outside) for a three-year period, subject to Planned Development District conditions, a Specific Use Permit site plan and conditions Z-25-000159 *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS AND TO A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT OUTSIDE WITH CONSIDERATION FOR AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF LEON DRIVE AND SOUTH LINE OF PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD.

ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 60 THREE NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND SEVEN REPLIES IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, OR TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

JESSICA RAMIREZ. HELLO. I'M HERE. YES. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. COUNCIL MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS.

MY NAME IS JESSICA. I RESIDE ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS, 5253.

I'M AT AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT MR. ANGEL OR AKA RANCHO LARGO, A NEW COMMUNITY DRIVEN EVENT CENTER PROPOSED FOR RILEY HERE IN HOME OF SOUTHEAST DALLAS.

AND THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS MORE THAN JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO INVEST IN THIS RURAL POCKET OF TOWN.

WE NEED. FAR TOO LONG OF THIS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING, HAVE BEEN PROMISED HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND IT'S JUST LACK DEDICATION. WE HAVE NO SPACES FOR FAMILIES TO CELEBRATE, TO HOST EVENTS.

LIKE TRANSLATION IS RODEO AND CABALGATA LA FORCE PROCESSION? AND IN THE CITY WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WALKABILITY, BUT WHAT ABOUT HORSE RIDERSHIP? NOT TOO LONG AGO, IN THIS VERY CHAMBER, IN THIS VERY SAME CHAMBERS, YOU GUYS APPROVED THE FIRST EQUESTRIAN CLINIC.

WELL, WITH THAT, I MEAN, WE MIGHT USE MORE HORSE LANES AND BIKE LANES IN THIS AREA.

SO WE REALLY WOULD LOVE YOUR SUPPORT AND CONTINUANCE OF THE THOUGHTFUL PRIDE THAT WE HAVE HERE AND THE GROWTH THAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE DO THIS TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

VALENTIN MACIAS HAS CANCELED. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN.

AUDRA BUCKLEY, 1414 BELLEVUE STREET, SUITE 150, DALLAS, TEXAS 75215, REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.

THIS WAS A LONG TIME COMING. THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS OUT HERE ON THIS CASE.

WE HAVE AN AREA THAT HAS A LOT OF EVENTS GOING ON IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS.

AND WHEN THIS ONE WAS STOPPED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT, HE CEASED AND DESISTED.

SO IT'S BEEN SINCE 2023, SINCE ANYTHING HAS GONE ON OUT HERE ON THIS PROPERTY.

AND BEFORE I TOOK THE CASE, I TOOK IT OVER FROM ANOTHER CONSULTANT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD TO DO WAS FOLLOW THE NOISE ORDINANCE AS FAR AS WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN OPERATIONS.

SO YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE CP CONDITIONS, EVERYTHING SHUTS DOWN AT NINE AND EVERYBODY AND THE LIGHTS ARE OFF COME 10 P.M..

SO WE HAVE THE FULL BACKING OF THE KLEBERG NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE CRIME WATCH COMMITTEE.

AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT THE CPC'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS THE PD WITH THE CP, BECAUSE THE PD MAINTAINS THE R TEN BASE ZONING DISTRICT IN THE EVENT HE GETS OLDER AND DECIDES HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THE RODEO ANYMORE.

HE JUST WANTS TO GO BACK TO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM?

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THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IN THE MATTER OF Z10, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES. LIVESTOCK MAY NOT REMAIN ON THE PROPERTY OVERNIGHT AND THE SWAP EXPIRES ON FEBRUARY THE 25TH, 2030. AND I HAVE COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FIVE MINUTES FOR DISCUSSION. OKAY, SO YOU GUYS CONSTANTLY HEAR ME TALK ABOUT THE 500 HORSES IN THE SOUTHEAST AREA OF DISTRICT EIGHT. THE RILEY COMMITTEE COMMUNITY.

YOU HEAR? YOU'VE HEARD ME HOW RURAL IT IS. YOU JUST HEARD.

MISS RAMIREZ SAID. INSTEAD OF BIKE TRAILS, THEY WANT HORSE TRAILS.

THIS AREA, THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO STILL OWN 50 ACRES AND 25 ACRES OF LAND THAT HAS COWS, HORSES, CHICKENS. IN FACT, IF YOU WANT REAL GOOD CHICKENS, I KNOW A COUPLE OF PLACES TO GET THEM.

THE YOLKS ARE SO YELLOW THEY'RE ACTUALLY ORANGE.

THERE ARE FEED STORES THERE THAT THRIVE, BUT YOU CAN'T GET A GROCERY STORE THERE FOR PEOPLE.

AS A CPC, I RECEIVED CALLS ALMOST EVERY NIGHT ABOUT ILLEGAL LAND USE, WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS OF ACRES OF LAND THAT WERE ZONED AG WERE USING THEIR PROPERTY TO DO ILLEGAL OUTDOOR EVENTS AND VENUES.

THIS HAPPENED TO BE ONE OF THEM APRIL THE 18TH, 2023.

WITH COLD WE ALL CAME OUT. THE PROPERTY OWNER HERE WAS ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT CAME OUT.

THEY HEARD ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO. I COMMEND MR..

DIESEL. HE ACTUALLY HAS NOT HAD ANOTHER EVENT SINCE THAT DAY UNFORTUNATELY.

AND I PULLED THE I HAD THE CODE VIOLATIONS PULLED.

THERE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT COMPLETELY SURROUND HIM THAT SPOKE, THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION, WHO HAVE CODE VIOLATIONS FOR ILLEGAL LAND USE.

THEY OBJECT TO SOMEONE DOING A SPORTS EVENT THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. IT'S A WAY TO GET THE HORSES OFF THE STREET AND INTO A INTO AN AREA WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO THEIR SPORTS THE WAY THEY CHOOSE TO, AND FOLLOW THE RULES.

I ASK THAT MR. DIESEL NOT BE PUNISHED FOR THE BEHAVIOR OF HIS NEIGHBORS, BUT TO BE GIVEN THE RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE APPROPRIATELY IN THE COMMUNITY AND TO PARTICIPATE APPROPRIATELY IN GIVING THE COMMUNITY WHAT IT WANTS.

KLEBERG. RILEY, IF YOU'RE OUT THERE LISTENING, I KNOW YOU ARE.

I NEED YOU TO HEAR THAT YOUR HORSES AND YOUR ACTIVITY IS A CONSIDERATION AND A POSITIVE CONSIDERATION THAT I HOLD TRUE TO MY HEART. SO I ASK MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO A RODEO, HE ONLY CAN DO IT ON FRIDAY NIGHTS AND SATURDAY NIGHTS UNTIL 10:00. I MEAN, 9:00 AT 10:00. YOU GOT TO BE GONE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO SEE A RODEO, YOU WANT TO SEE HOW THEY ACTUALLY OPERATE, COME OUT TO KLEBERG RALLY, PUT ON YOUR COWBOY BOOTS, PUT ON YOUR COWBOY HATS, AND LET'S HAVE A RODEO.

WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING. THANK YOU. CHAIR WEST, I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY COLLEAGUE ON THIS.

THIS IS KIND OF, I THINK, THE FUNNEST ZONING CASE WE'VE DONE IN A WHILE.

IT'S VERY DALLAS. VERY TEXAS. GLAD TO HAVE RODEO.

RIGHT, RIGHT. RIGHT HERE IN IN IN OAK CLIFF IN SOUTH DALLAS.

SO I'M EXCITED TO SUPPORT THIS WITH KLEBERG, NOT OAK CLIFF KLEBERG.

I GOT OAK CLIFF ON THE BRAIN RIGHT NOW, SO CAN'T WAIT TO COME MAKE SURE WE ALL GET THE INVITE.

THANK YOU. CAN I SPEAK FOR GETTING THE ATTORNEYS OVER FOR YOU? COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF IF I COULD GET SOME LEGAL OPINION ON RECORD.

I KNOW THAT TEXAS IS RIGHT TO FARM ACT. SEEMS TO PROHIBIT MUNICIPALITIES FROM HAVING REGULATIONS ON UNLESS IT'S THERE'S A DIRECT CONNECTION TO PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THIS DIFFERS FROM THE STATE LAW.

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THIS IS A RODEO, NOT AN AGRICULTURAL OPERATION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S IT'S IN A ZONED RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO WITH THE LAW THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED WAS SPECIFIC TO CITIES NOT BEING ABLE TO REGULATE INSIDE RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

THE LAW THAT WAS PASSED SAID WE COULDN'T REGULATE AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS.

AND YOU ARE SPEAKING OF 1750, I BELIEVE H.B. 1750 FROM THREE, THREE, THREE YEARS AGO? YEAH, FROM TWO SESSIONS AGO. OKAY. SO THIS THERE'S THERE'S NO CONSTITUTIONALITY THAT WE COULD BE OPEN TO LITIGATION FOR REGULATING THEM, HAVING TO NOT BE PRESENT AT NIGHT.

THAT IS CORRECT. ALL RIGHT, I I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE WITH THAT OPINION, BUT IT'S IF IF, IF THAT'S WHAT THE ATTORNEYS ARE SAYING, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS AT LEAST ON RECORD.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERREACH TO ADD THAT INTO THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM Z 13 IS YOUR NEXT ITEM.

[Z13. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2505 for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service use within Subarea 2 of Planned Development District No. 366, the Buckner Boulevard Special Purpose District, with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the south line of Lake June Road, east of Rose Garden Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a five-year period, subject to site plan and conditions Z-25-000173 *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

USE ON THE SOUTH LINE OF LAKE JUNE ROAD, EAST OF ROSE GARDEN AVENUE.

MR. MAYOR. WE SENT 17 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING. ANDREW RUIG 3333. WELLBORN HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER AND APPLICANT, HECTOR LOPEZ.

HE'S A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER FOR EL PULPO. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY GOTTEN AN SUP FOR ALCOHOL SALES APPROVED TWO YEARS AGO.

THIS IS THE SUP RENEWAL. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.

ITEM C 13. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE.

THE SCP EXPIRES ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2028. SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. FIVE MINUTES FOR DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ. THANK YOU VERY BRIEFLY.

BASED ON THE CRIME REPORT IN THIS CASE, I'M RECOMMENDING A SHORTER SUV THAN WHAT THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED.

THANK YOU. LILY COFFEY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. MR.. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR ZONING ITEMS.

[Z15. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new Specific Use Permit for a public school other than an open-enrollment charter school on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single-Family District, on property bounded by East Ledbetter Drive, Veterans Drive, 52nd Street, and Horizon Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a site plan, traffic management plan, and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a site plan, traffic management plan, and conditions Z245-154(TB)/Z-25-000003 Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at the public hearing on December 10, 2025, and is scheduled for consideration on February 25, 2026. *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

Z15 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL OTHER THAN AN OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON PROPERTY BOUNDED BY EAST LEDBETTER DRIVE, VETERANS DRIVE, 52ND STREET, AND HORIZON DRIVE.

ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 102 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 400FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED THREE REPLIES IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE? I SEE TWO ONE. THE FIRST SPEAKER MAY COME TO THE PODIUM.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES.

LC THURMAN, 9406 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75218.

I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR DALLAS ISD. THIS PROJECT IS IN DISTRICT FOUR.

FREDERICK DOUGLASS TODD SENIOR MIDDLE SCHOOL.

BASEBALL FIELD ADDITION. IT IS FOR THE CONCESSION STAND, LOCKER ROOMS, AND RESTROOMS. WE'RE HOPING YOU'LL TAKE A VOTE TODAY TO APPROVE THIS ZONING CASE.

THERE IS NO ADDITION TO THE MAIN CAMPUS. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

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YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS WILL ARNOLD. 9400 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, SUITE 800.

DALLAS, TEXAS, 75 231. I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR NIKITA ENTERPRISES, REPRESENTING THE DALLAS ISD BOND PROGRAM.

HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 15.

NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. CHAIR. JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION.

THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT I WORKED ON. JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. TO APPROVE WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS.

LIGHTS ON THE THE SCOREBOARD AS WELL. IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. FIVE MINUTES FOR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT I WORKED ON RIGHT BEFORE I LEFT.

DALLAS. ISD TRUSTEE SOUTH OAK CLIFF WAS WITHOUT BASEBALL FIELD FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.

AND SO WE BUILT THE STATE OF THE ART BASEBALL FIELD BEHIND THE TODD MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THAT WE PROMISED THE KIDS IN THAT COMMUNITY, IN MY COMMUNITY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LIGHTS THERE, THE LIGHTS ON THE SCOREBOARD. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE WHAT WE CALL THE CONCOURSE, WHICH WHICH IS THE LOCKER ROOM CONCESSION STAND, RESTROOM.

AND I KNOW IT HAD A COACH'S OFFICE IN THERE, BUT THE COACH'S OFFICE WAS NOT A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT THE COMMUNITY.

SO I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A TRAINING ROOM FOR THE KIDS.

AND IT'S ALSO WITH THE LOCKER ROOM. IT IS A HOME AND VISITOR LOCKER ROOM.

CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO I'M OKAY WITH THIS.

NOW I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GAVE THE KIDS EVERYTHING THAT WE PROMISED IN DISTRICT FOUR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, THERE IS A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM Z16 IS A PUBLIC

[Z16. A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new Specific Use Permit for a public school other than an open enrollment charter school on property zoned MF-2(A) Multifamily Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, in an area bounded by Malcolm X Boulevard, Park Row Avenue, Jeffries Street, and Al Lipscomb Way Recommendation of Staff: Approval subject to a site plan, traffic management plan, and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval subject to a site plan, traffic management plan, and conditions Z-25-000168 Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at the public hearing on January 28, 2026, and is scheduled for consideration on February 25, 2026. *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 54 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT OF THE AREA OF REQUEST.

WE RECEIVED TWO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION.

YOU DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM, L.C.

THURMAN. L.C. THURMAN, 90 406 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 75218. THIS SCHOOL PROJECT IS IN DISTRICT SEVEN.

IT IS OUR BRAND NEW ADELIA WILLIAMS CAREER INSTITUTE.

WE HAD OUR ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY MEETING. IT WAS VERY PRODUCTIVE.

WE'RE HOPING YOU WILL PASS THIS ZONING CASE. AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM 16. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. SECOND. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COUNCILMEMBER BAZALDUA. SEEING NO DISCUSSION.

ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ITEM PH ONE.

[PH1. A public hearing on an application for and a resolution granting a variance to the alcohol spacing requirements from a public school, Margaret B. Henderson Elementary School, as required by Section 6-4 of the Dallas City Code to allow a wine and beer retailer’s permit pursuant to Chapter 25 of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code, for a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service with a food and beverage certificate [Herby’s Burgers, Inc.] on the west side of Edgefield Avenue, south of Newport Avenue - AV245-004 / CPR-25-001437 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM FF ONE? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE REQUEST, IT WILL REQUIRE A MOTION IN TWO SECONDS FOR APPROVAL.

CHAIR WEST, YOU HAVE A MOTION. MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND, IS THAT TWO SECONDS? ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

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[PH2. A public hearing on an application for and a resolution granting a variance to the alcohol spacing requirements from a public school Uplift Pinnacle Preparatory and Academy of Dallas Charter School, as required by Section 6-4 of the Dallas City Code to allow a wine and beer retailer’s off-premise permit (BQ) to Chapter 26 of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code, for a general merchandise or food store 100,000 square feet or more [Target Corporation] on the north line of West Illinois, west of South Zang Boulevard - AV256-001/CPR-26-000042 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM TWO? NO SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE ALSO, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE REQUEST, IT WILL REQUIRE A MOTION IN TWO SECONDS FOR APPROVAL.

CHAIR WEST. MOVE TO APPROVE. HEAR TWO SECONDS.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING. NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON THE PROPOSED CITY OF DALLAS.

[PH3. A public hearing to receive comments on the proposed City of Dallas FY 2025-2026 Urban Land Bank Demonstration Program Plan, and, at the close of the public hearing, approval of the City of Dallas FY 2025-2026 Urban Land Bank Demonstration Program Plan in accordance with Chapter 379C of the Texas Local Government Code - Financing: No cost consideration to the City *In alignment with Dallas Housing Resource Catalog.]

AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. APPROVAL OF THE CITY OF DALLAS FY 2025 2026 URBAN LAND BANK DEMONSTRATION PROGRAM PLAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 379C OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM PF THREE? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOVE! APPROVAL. THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE A SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM PF FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS,

[PH4. A public hearing to receive comments (1) regarding an application by Cohen-Esrey Development Group, LLC (Applicant), to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs for 4% Non-Competitive Low Income Housing Tax Credits for The Henley, a 228-unit multifamily residential development for persons of low and moderate income to be located at 7535 University Hills Boulevard, Dallas, Texas 75241 (Project); and (2) pursuant to Section 394.9025 of the Texas Local Government Code regarding bonds to be issued by the City of Dallas Housing Finance Corporation to finance the Project; and, at the close of the public hearing authorize a Resolution of No Objection for Applicant related to its application to TDHCA for the development of the Project - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information) (This item was deferred on February 11, 2026) *In alignment with Dallas Housing Resource Catalog.]

TWO FOR ONE PROJECT AND TWO. PURSUANT TO SECTION 394.9025 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REGARDING FUNDS TO BE ISSUED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION TO FINANCE THE PROJECT, AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, AUTHORIZED A RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION FOR APPLICANT RELATED TO ITS APPLICATION TO TD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.

THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM PF FOUR? NO SPEAKERS. I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE A CLARIFICATION ALSO TO ITEM PF FOUR, CLARIFYING THAT THE UNIT MIX IS AS FOLLOWS 80% RESERVED FOR HOUSEHOLDS AT OR BELOW 60% AMI AND 20% WITHOUT INCOME RESTRICTIONS.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR.

YES, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THE MATTER OF PH FOUR, I MOVE TO DENY WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCILMEMBER BLAIR, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT ASKED ME TO TO DENY IT WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

MY MY MOTION WOULD HAVE BEEN TO DENY. I GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I WANT TO BE FAIR.

WE HAVE SAID WHEN WE CAME LAST WEEK AND WE IN OUR HOUSING MEETING, WE DETERMINED THAT MY AREA IS HAS A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF THOSE THAT ARE HAVE LESS THAN 20% OF AMI.

I HAVE ALL THE AFFORDABILITY I NEED. I AM AS COUNCILMAN AS AS CHAIR MENDELSOHN SAYS.

NATURALLY AFFORDABLE. I'M NATURALLY AFFORDABLE.

MOST OF MY RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR 20, 30, 40 YEARS.

SO I THE CONCENTRATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I NEED HOUSING THAT IS GOING TO PAY ALL THE PROPERTY TAXES WE CAN GET. I WILL CONTINUE DOING THAT IN DISTRICT EIGHT BECAUSE PRIOR TO TODAY WE HAVE DONE OUR FAIR SHARE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHAT'S IN DISTRICT EIGHT, ARE ALL OF OUR AND TECH ARE MATURING TO THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE NOW BRINGING IN RESIDENTS THAT MAKE ME

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SO I APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE ON THIS. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA ITEMS FOR THIS MEETING.

HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS LEFT ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY, I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER, ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL AND PERTINENT, PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON.

FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS.

YOU WILL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM.

WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, PLEASE STOP. FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR MORENO ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, SAM WILLIAMS. TEST. MY NAME IS SAM WILLIAMS. I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE AND ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 3RD AT 5:30 A.M., I WITNESSED AN ABDUCTION PERFORMED BY MASKED AND ARMED INDIVIDUALS OUTFITTED IN GEAR THAT SAID POLICE.

FIVE CARS BOXED IN A SINGLE WHITE VAN WITH A DRIVER ON THEIR WAY TO WORK.

SCARED FOR THIS PERSON'S SAFETY, I CALLED OUT TO THEM, TRYING TO GET THEIR NAME.

INSTEAD, THE MASKED GROUP AUDIBLY ANSWERED BACK AND SELF-IDENTIFIED AS POLICE.

I HAVE A CLIP THAT I SENT TO BE PLAYED WITH THE AUDIO, INCLUDING THESE INDIVIDUALS WEARING POLICE IDENTIFICATION AND MASKS.

IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE VICTIM, AND I PROVIDED THAT TO COUNCIL AND DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR LOGISTICAL AND TIME CONSTRAINTS.

BUT AFTER CALLING THE MISSING PERSONS HOTLINE, I WAS REDIRECTED TO THE NON-EMERGENCY LINE WHERE MY TESTIMONY AND INFORMATION WAS TAKEN DOWN. ADDITIONALLY, A COMPLAINT WAS FILED WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, INCLUDING A LONGER FORM VERSION OF THIS VIDEO.

THE STATUS OF THE COMPLAINT WAS MARKED AS FAILURE TO ARTICULATE.

THIS TRANSLATES TO DETERMINATION. AND THAT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT DPD WAS THERE AT ALL.

SO WE HAVE FIVE CARS OF INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFYING AS POLICE TO RESIDENTS.

AND DPD INTERNAL AFFAIRS HAS CONFIRMED TO DALLAS POLICE THAT THERE WAS NO DALLAS POLICE ON SITE.

THAT SHAKES MY TRUST IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. WHAT I WITNESSED HAS ME CONCERNED AS A DALLAS RESIDENT.

IT PRESENTS A RISK TO PUBLIC AND OFFICER SAFETY, BUT OF COURSE, ALSO CITY LIABILITY.

COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, WITH WHOM I ENCOURAGE THIS BODY TO ENGAGE ON THIS SUBJECT.

BOTH BACK IN OPEN STATEMENT REQUESTING CLARIFIED VERIFICATION STANDARDS FOR DPD INTERACTIONS WITH FEDERAL AGENTS, JUDICIAL WARRANT REQUIREMENTS FOR ENTRY INTO NONPUBLIC FACILITIES, AND MONTHLY PUBLIC REPORTING RELATED TO BOTH.

BOTH OF THE ABOVE. FOR VERIFICATION YOU HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED SOME DOCUMENTATION AROUND AN INCIDENT IN DALLAS WHERE SOMEONE CLAIMED TO BE ICE AND A RESIDENT WAS VICTIMIZED. NOT TO MENTION MY EXPERIENCE ABOVE FOR WARRANTS.

THE SHERIFF'S ASSOCIATION OF TEXAS RECENTLY WARNED OF LEGAL EXPOSURE WHEN IMPROPERLY SERVING ADMINISTRATIVE WARRANTS WITHOUT CAUSE AND REPORTING.

DPD WILL SUPPORT FEDERAL AGENCIES WHEN ASKED.

DALLAS. RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW WHEN THAT HAS HAPPENED.

AND THE SAME WAY WE DO FOR DPD MONTHLY CRIME REPORTING.

I ASK THAT COUNCIL CONTINUE TO ENGAGE, TO ENGAGE ON THIS TOPIC AND UNDERSTAND THAT ENHANCED REPORTING WOULD FOSTER GREATER TRUST BETWEEN THE CITY, ITS RESIDENTS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. JAMES FOWLER. JAMES FOWLER, NOT PRESENT.

NOEL ESTRADA.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS NOEL, AND I'M HERE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF DISTRICT 11 WHO WANTS TO HELP THE CITY OF DALLAS GET THIS RIGHT.

I WANT TO START OFF WITH SOMETHING WE CAN ALL AGREE ON.

COMMUNITY TRUST AND OFFICER SAFETY ARE NOT SEPARATE ISSUES.

THEY ARE DIRECTLY CONNECTED. WHEN TRUST GOES DOWN, REPORTING GOES DOWN.

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AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE CREATING CONDITIONS THAT ERODE THOSE TRUSTS.

ON DECEMBER 9TH. ASSISTANT CHIEF ISRAEL HERRERA STATED THAT ICE AGENTS DO NOT HAVE TO SHOW PROOF OF IDENTITY.

IN THE FIELD, CITING UNDERCOVER OPERATIONS, MEANING INDIVIDUALS CAN ASSERT FEDERAL AUTHORITY WITHOUT IMMEDIATE VERIFICATION.

THIS IS NOT JUST A POLICY GAP. THAT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY RISK BECAUSE WHEN AUTHORITY IS NOT CLEARLY VERIFIED, IMPERSONATION BECOMES EASIER, CONFUSION INCREASES AND HARM BECOMES MORE LIKELY.

AND THAT IS NOT HYPOTHETICAL. ON JUNE 25TH, 2025, HERE IN DALLAS IN DISTRICT SIX, WHERE DPD LOGGED AN INCIDENT SHARED WITH EVERYONE HERE, A VEHICLE ACTIVATED RED AND BLUE EMERGENCY LIGHTS AND ATTEMPTED TO APPEAR TO BE A TRAFFIC STOP.

IT WAS NOT A POLICE OFFICER AND THE SUSPECT FLED AND THE CASE IS CURRENTLY SUSPENDED.

BUT HERE IS THE KEY POINT. IF A TRAINED DETECTIVE WITH ACCESS TO DEPARTMENTAL TOOLS AND RESOURCES CANNOT VERIFY IN REAL TIME WHETHER THE INDIVIDUAL WAS LEGITIMATE, THEN WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM IN DALLAS. BECAUSE IF LAW ENFORCEMENT CANNOT CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHO IS ACTING WITH AUTHORITY, WE CANNOT EXPECT RESIDENTS TO DO SO IN A MOMENT OF FEAR.

AND THIS IS EXACTLY HOW PEOPLE GET HURT. WE ARE ALREADY SEEING MULTIPLE INCIDENTS ACROSS DALLAS INVOLVING INDIVIDUALS FALSELY IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES AS ICE VEHICLES, IMPERSONATING POLICE WITH EMERGENCY LIGHTS, AND SUSPECTS CLAIMING AUTHORITY FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

THIS IS AN ONGOING PATTERN, NOT AN ISOLATED EVENT.

YOU ARE CREATING CONDITIONS WHERE CONFUSION IS NOT JUST POSSIBLE, IT IS INEVITABLE.

AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE UNSURE OF WHOM THEY ARE DEALING WITH, THEY HESITATE TO CALL 911.

THEY HESITATE TO REPORT CRIMES AND TO COOPERATE.

THAT MAKES COMMUNITIES LESS SAFE. AND IT MAKES OFFICERS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, LESS SAFE.

NOW, I WANT TO BE CLEAR. IF WE UNDERSTAND THE POSITION THE CHIEF IS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE POSITION THAT THE CHIEF IS IN, THERE IS A REAL CONCERN TO THAT. MUCH TRANSPARENCY COULD BE INTERPRETED OF OBSTRUCTION, FEDERAL ENFORCEMENT.

WE UNDERSTAND THE RISK, BUT THE ANSWER CANNOT BE SILENCED BECAUSE THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY CREATES ITS OWN RISK LOSS OF TRUST, LOSS OF COOPERATION AND LOSS OF SAFETY. SO THE OTHER SOLUTION IS TO NOT ONE EXTREME ONE OR THE OTHER.

IT IS ACCOUNTABILITY WITH CLARITY. DALLAS RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW WHO IS EXERCISING AUTHORITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NICOLE. MICA. MISS MICHAEL WILL BE VIRTUAL.

NICOLE. MICA. NICOLE.

MICA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN, CAN'T. HOWEVER, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING.

OKAY. ONE SECOND PLEASE. IS. YES. WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. OKAY. EVERYTHING'S GOOD NOW.

PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD TO GO. YES. OKAY.

SO, HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO SUPPORT A FULL BAN ON HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES ON THE PUBLIC STREETS.

THIS IS NOT JUST A NOSTALGIA. IT'S ABOUT SAFETY AND COMPASSION.

WE'RE ASKING HORSES TO NAVIGATE LOUD, BUSY AND DANGEROUS URBAN ENVIRONMENTS WHERE A SINGLE LOUD NOISE CAN AND HAS CAUSED SERIOUS ACCIDENTS.

MOST RECENTLY ON FEBRUARY 13TH IN MISSOURI, A TWO CAR, TWO VEHICLE CRASH IN CHARLOTTE COUNTY CORRECTLY INJURED A BUGGY DRIVER. THIS INCIDENT. THIS INCIDENT DEMONSTRATES THAT EVEN IN LOW TRAFFIC AREAS, HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES ARE INNATELY VULNERABLE ON MODERN ROADS BEYOND SAFETY CONCERNS, IT IS INHUMANE TO SUBJECT THESE ANIMALS TO EXTREME HEAT AND EXHAUST FUMES.

THESE CARRIAGES ALSO POSSESS A SAFETY RISK TO DRIVERS AND TOURISTS ALIKE.

WE CAN PRESERVE THE CHARM OF THE CITY BY INVESTING IN ELECTRIC CARRIAGES ALTERNATIVE THAT DO NOT RELY ON ANIMAL EXPLOITATION.

EXPLOITATION. PLEASE FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE AND BAN THIS INHUMANE, INHUMANE TRADE. IT IS TIME TO MAKE DALLAS A SAFE, MORE MODERN AND MORE COMPASSIONATE CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GLORIA CARBAJAL.

GREETINGS AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR JOHNSON OR MAYOR PRO TEM.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS GLORIA CARBAJAL, CO-FOUNDER OF BAN HORSE CARRIAGES DALLAS.

TODAY MARKS MY 13TH TIME SPEAKING BEFORE YOU ON THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.

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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT IS A SYMBOL OF FORWARD MOVEMENT, INDEPENDENCE AND ENDURANCE.

WE RECAP JUST SOME OF WHAT WE HAVE RECENTLY WITNESSED.

HORSES IN THE CARRIAGE TRADE IN DALLAS BEING NEGLECTED.

THE BASIC TEN MINUTE BREAK AFTER EVERY 15 MINUTES WORKED.

WATER NOT BEING OFFERED. WATER JUGS NOT VISIBLE.

FECAL MATTER NOT BEING PICKED UP, INSTEAD INSTEAD LEFT FOR RESIDENTS OR OTHERS TO DEAL WITH.

IT IS. THE YEAR OF THE HORSE. 2026 BRINGS THE YEAR OF THE FIRE HORSE, AN ASTROLOGICAL RARITY THAT OCCURS ONLY ONCE EVERY 60 YEARS.

THE FIRE HORSE IS ALSO A SPRINTING ANIMAL, WHICH INDICATES THAT 2026 IS A YEAR IN WHICH EVENTS WILL UNFOLD RAPIDLY.

EXPERTS SAY THAT THE YEAR OF THE HORSE WILL DEMAND BOLD ACTION.

RISK TAKING IN STARK CONTRAST TO 2025. YEAR OF THE WOOD SNAKE, WHICH WAS VIEWED AS A TIME FOR CAUTIOUS PROGRESS. DALLAS CITY OFFICIALS.

ONCE AGAIN, WE ASK HUMBLY THAT YOU BRING BACK THE PROPOSAL TO BAN HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES.

BE BOLD. BE PROACTIVE. FOR THE HUMANE WELFARE OF THE HORSE.

HORSES. IF NOT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR KIND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. TRACY HUNT.

TRACY HUNT IS NOT PRESENT. DYLAN. GOLDEN. DYLAN.

GOLDEN. GOLDEN IS NOT PRESENT. LIZ. MENDOZA. LIZ MENDOZA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? LIZ MENDOZA. YES. HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YOU MAY CONTINUE. THANK YOU. I'M LIZ MENDOZA, RESIDENT OF IRVING, AND I COMMUTE FOR WORK TO DALLAS EVERY WEEK.

I GROW INCREASINGLY CONCERNED WITH ICE ACTIVITY IN THIS COUNTRY, THIS CITY, EVERY DAY.

THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS SWORN TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT EFFECTIVELY, THEY MUST KEEP THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE.

PEOPLE CANNOT FEEL SAFE IN A COMMUNITY WHERE MASKED STRANGERS DO NOT HAVE TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES OR PRESENT JUDICIAL WARRANTS, AND CAN HARASS RESIDENTS WITHOUT ANY ACCOUNTABILITY OR CONSEQUENCE FROM DPD.

WE DEMAND THAT THE DEPARTMENT STORE AND VERIFY THE IDENTITIES OF THE ICE AGENTS, AND VERIFY WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A JUDICIAL WARRANT.

IT MAY BE ARGUED THAT ICE COULD BE QUOTE UNQUOTE UNDERCOVER AND THUS VERIFY THEY ARE ICE.

UNDERCOVER COPS ALSO NEED JUDICIAL WARRANTS AND WHEN MAKING AN ARREST, DO NEED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS LAW ENFORCEMENT.

COPS KNOW BETTER, AND THEY KNOW THAT THEY KNOCK ON DOORS OF JUDGES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FOR A JUDICIAL WARRANT NECESSARY.

SO WHY IS BPD ACTING OBTUSE WHEN IT COMES TO WHETHER THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION AND ITS SUPPORTERS, LIKE IT OR NOT, IMMIGRANTS HAVE RIGHTS, AND DESPITE THAT COMMON KNOWLEDGE AND TRYING TO STICK IT TO IMMIGRANTS, ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF IMMIGRATION STATUS.

HERE IN OUR VERY CITY OF DALLAS, ANYONE CAN WALK UP TO SOMEONE AND CLAIM TO BE AN ICE AGENT, AND WE'RE JUST SUPPOSED TO OBLIGE. THERE ARE FELLOW RESIDENTS IN THIS ROOM THAT HAVE DONE WAY MORE RESEARCH THAN ME, AND CERTAINLY MORE RESEARCH, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE IS AN INCIDENT REPORT THAT DETAILS A PERSON BEING WAVED DOWN BY AN ICE AGENT AND WAS INSTRUCTED TO FOLLOW THEM TO ANOTHER LOCATION.

THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE ICE AGENTS AND WERE FULL GEAR SHOWING THEY WERE ICE AGENTS.

THEY WERE THEN. THEY THEN ASKED THE PERSON TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND TOOK A PICTURE OF THEIR ID.

THE SUPPOSED ICE AGENTS THEN TOLD HIM TO SIT ON THE CURB AND PROCEEDED TO DRIVE OFF WITH HIS VEHICLE.

AND I MEAN, WHY WOULDN'T THIS PERSON OBLIGE WITH WHAT HE'S BEING TOLD?

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THERE ARE VIDEOS OF DPD JUST STANDING BY AS PEOPLE ARE BEING KIDNAPED BY ICE AGENTS, WITHOUT CHECKING IF THEY REALLY ARE.

EVEN ICE. DPD IS THEIR JOB TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, SAFE AND NOT ERODE THE TRUST OF THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS.

DPD MUST VERIFY THE IDENTITIES OF ICE AGENTS AND ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE A JUDICIAL WARRANT.

THAT IS LITERALLY THE BARE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF THE JOB.

THANK YOU, DOLORES PHILLIPS.

DOLORES PHILLIPS, FORTUNE SQUARE APARTMENTS, GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS, 75050.

YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS AT THE CORE OF THIS COVER UP WITHIN A COVER UP.

WITHIN A COVER UP IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE COVER UP WITHIN A COVER UP.

AND IT'S ONE BEHAVIOR AND IT'S OPERATING UNDER COLOR OF LAW.

YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS. THE FIRST ONE IS FROM THE FIRST PAGE OF FAMILY MATTER DF-92. DASH 11850. KEEP IT IN MIND BECAUSE WE'RE UNCOVERING THESE RACKETS WITHIN A RACKET. NOW IMAGINE YOU HAVING ESTATES BEFORE YOU HAVE A STATE, OR YOU SHOULD HAVE A STATE THAT'S AT THE COURT IS I'M NOT GOING TO BE BULLIED NOW. SECOND PAGE PR DASH 2303429.

DASH TWO WAS OVER IN DALLAS COUNTY PROBATE COURT NUMBER TWO WITH HONORABLE JUDGE WARREN.

THERE WAS FULL FLEDGED INVESTIGATIONS AND NO REPORTS EVER PUT ON RECORD.

AND I'VE BEEN BEGGING FROM THEN TO NOW. AND MY DAD, HE WAS BEGGING ME TO LIVE.

IT'S FUNNY TO Y'ALL, BUT I'M KNOCKING ON DOORS BECAUSE Y'ALL TWO HIGHEST RANKING WOMEN IS BULLYING ME AS A MOTHER, A GRANDMOTHER. I HAVE A DAUGHTER, I HAVE AUNTIES.

STAY WITH ME BECAUSE I'M KNOCKING. IT'S NOT NO BLUFF.

WE COMING NOW? STAY WITH ME. THE SAME CD THAT CAME UP MISSING IN OK AND 2021 CAME UP MISSING IN HONORABLE JUDGE WILLIAMS. COURT 101ST DC DASH TWO ONE. DASH 06299. Y'ALL LET MY DAD DIE.

AND HE WAS AN INCAPACITATED ELDER. SOMEBODY CALLED AND MADE THAT CALL THAT ORDER FOR MONETARY GAIN.

Y'ALL LOOK RECORDS IS COMING. AND THEY BECOMING EXPOSED IN TWO HIGH RANKING WOMEN IN THIS BUILDING KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

MY DAD IS THE ONLY MAN I KNOW HIS FATHER, AND HE BEGGED ME NOT TO LEAVE HIM.

IF I COULD HAVE PICKED HIM UP, I WOULD HAVE. MY BACK WOULDN'T LET ME.

YOU PLAYED WITH THE ONLY MAN I KNOW AS MY FATHER.

AND WE COMING TO GET YOU. I PLAY WITH YOU? NOT NOW.

IN P-19707. IS HIS ESTATE MATTER? HE COULD HAVE BEEN HERE SPENDING HIS OWN MONEY THAT I FOUND FROM HIM WHEN I WAS HIS POWER OF ATTORNEY IN 2019. FIDELITY. ENCORE.

ALL OF THAT. HE EARNED HIS MONEY RIGHT HERE FROM BACK FROM DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

Y'ALL PLAY DIRTY, DIRTY. YET THE SAME COW DUMB.

BEEN ERASED FROM THE EXHIBIT A DOWN IN CARSON COUNTY, TEXAS, P-919707.

Y'ALL STEALING MONEY? THAT'S YOUR TIME. SEND HIM TO HIS DEATH BEFORE HIS TIME.

AND THAT'S YOUR TIME. YOU HEARD ME. IT AIN'T NO JOKE.

THANK YOU. NUFFIELD DOD. NUFFIELD DOD IS NOT PRESENT.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING AND ALSO CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING.

THANK YOU. IT IS 612 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.