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HOW LONG YOU ALL BEEN WAITING? I'M SORRY
[Quality of Life, Arts and Culture Committee on March 23, 2026.]
IT IS 9:08 AND WE WILL CALL TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE MEETING TO ORDER.THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 17TH, 2026.
MOVE APPROVAL ANY DISCUSSIONS? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. SO GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
ON THE AGENDA TODAY WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS. ONE BRIEFING ITEM TWO MEMOS TO DISCUSS THERE.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE HOSPITALITY AND NIGHTLIFE.
SO I'D LIKE TO CALL TERRY LOWERY UP TO GET US STARTED WITH THAT ONE.
I APOLOGIZE, [LAUGHTER] MADAME PHILIPPE AND MARTINE PHILIPPE.
JUST FINE MARTINE PHILIPPE, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
THE HOSPITALITY AND NIGHTLIFE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TODAY BY THE CHAIR OF THE TASK FORCE HERE, TERRY LOWERY, AND ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY COMMISSIONER DAMANY DANIEL, WHO IS JOINING US VIA WEBEX.
AGAIN, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR TASK FORCE.
THE RELATED APPLICATION PROCESS. THE WAYS THAT VENUES WERE CLASSIFIED THROUGH OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE TASK FORCE, ETC. AND SO WITHOUT BELABORING THE OVERVIEW, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
SO TERRY WILL SHARE A BIT OF THE CONCERNS THAT LED TO THE FORMATION OF THE TASK FORCE AND CARRY US FORWARD, THANK YOU TERRY. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR GRACEY, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
IT IS VERY NICE TO BE HERE. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US THIS MORNING.
OPERATORS. WHEN THIS AROSE, OPERATORS EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THE EXISTING RULES WERE UNCLEAR AND INCONSISTENTLY ENFORCED. AT THE SAME TIME, RESIDENTS RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE LEVEL AND DISRUPTION IN MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THIS WORK REPRESENTS SEVERAL MONTHS OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS.
THE GOAL WAS TO EVALUATE HOW DALLAS CURRENTLY REGULATES NIGHTTIME AND ENTERTAINMENT HOSPITALITY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. THE TASK FORCE HAD VERY DIVERSE REPRESENTATION.
THE GROUP MET REGULARLY, WITH A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS WEEKLY SINCE EARLY NOVEMBER TO REVIEW EXISTING POLICIES, TO EVALUATE AND DISCUSS ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGES, AND TO REVIEW HOW OTHER CITIES HAVE DEALT WITH THESE ISSUES.
THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS THAT ARE STAKEHOLDERS WERE VOTING MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF THAT HELPED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND PROVIDED GUIDANCE FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE NON-VOTING MEMBERS WITH ALL THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE THIS MORNING, PLEASE STAND. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THEIR DEDICATED HARD WORK.
THEIR EXPERIENCE AND THE SIGNIFICANT TIME THAT THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS PROJECT.
THEIR EXPERIENCE IN HOSPITALITY, ARTS, COMMUNITY ACTIVISM AND CITY SERVICES HAVE BEEN INVALUABLE IN HELPING TO SHAPE A FRAMEWORK THAT'S BOTH PRACTICAL FOR OPERATORS AND RESPONSIVE TO NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.
THE COLLABORATIVE APPROACH THAT OCCURRED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS SHOWS IN THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ONE MORE. THANK YOU. THE OBJECTIVES OF THE TASK FORCE WERE TO PROVIDE MODERN CITY CODE, ENSURING THAT DALLAS REGULATIONS REFLECT HOW INDUSTRY OPERATES TODAY, AND TO ALLOW FOR COVER CHARGES FOR SUSTAINING ARTISTS AND SUPPORTING THE CREATIVE ECONOMY.NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. DALLAS HAS A VIBRANT CULTURAL AND ENTERTAINMENT SCENE.
THE CURRENT REGULATORY FRAMEWORK HAS NOT KEPT PACE WITH HOW THE INDUSTRY OPERATES TODAY.
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AIM TO CREATE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS FOR OPERATORS WHILE ALLOWING FLEXIBILITY FOR CREATIVITY AND CULTURAL ACTIVITY. AT THE SAME TIME, THEY ENSURE THE CITY MAINTAIN TOOLS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALSO FOR NEIGHBORHOOD LIVABILITY.
IMPORTANTLY, THIS APPROACH EMPHASIZES PROACTIVE EDUCATION, CONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT, AND REPLACING OUTDATED PROVISIONS CURRENTLY FOUND IN CHAPTER 14 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE.
GOOD MORNING TO TERRY. GOOD MORNING TO MARTINE.
GOOD MORNING TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE ATTENDING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. AS TERRY SAID, YOU KNOW, AT THE CORE OF OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THE CREATION OF THIS ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE, RIGHT? IT'S THE LICENSE THAT ULTIMATELY ALLOWS THESE RESTAURANTS TO REALLY ESTABLISH AND HOST THESE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES.
IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING, THE IDEA IS THAT THE LICENSE WOULD ALLOW RESTAURANTS, BARS, AND OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS TO LEGALLY HOST ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES SUCH AS, BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY LIVE MUSIC, DJ'S AND DANCING. THE IDEA BEHIND THE LICENSE AND THE PERMIT IS THAT IT'S DESIGNED TO STACK ON A CO, AND IT'S NOT TIED TO A SPECIFIC ART FORM OR GENRE.
THOSE WERE TWO THINGS THAT WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE TASK FORCE AS WE WORK THESE THINGS THROUGH.
ULTIMATELY, THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY WHILE STILL ENSURING THAT VENUES CAN OPERATE, AS TERRY SAID, WITH CLEAR OPERATIONAL STANDARDS AND THE IDEAS THAT THE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE APPLIES TO ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HOST PUBLIC ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES. WHETHER THESE ACTIVITIES ARE FREE OR TICKETED, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT AN EVENT IS TICKETED, THERE IS AN IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S THE IMPACT OVERALL FROM THE CONGREGATION AND THE ASSEMBLY OF INDIVIDUALS.
AGAIN, THAT WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE NOT JUST LOOKING AT WHAT ENTERTAINMENT EXISTS TODAY, THE FORMS OF ENTERTAINMENT THAT PEOPLE ENJOY TODAY, BUT THAT WE WERE ALSO CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SOMEWHAT FUTURE PROOF IT SO THAT AS ENTERTAINMENT OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES IN THE FUTURE, WE ARE ALSO PREPARED AS A FORWARD THINKING CITY TO ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL.
NEXT SLIDE. SO THE TASK FORCE, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BASED ON A CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM THAT IS BASED ON THE OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE VENUE. AND THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT.
NUMBER ONE IS THE VENUE TYPE. THE IDEA BEHIND VENUE TYPE IS THAT THE WINSPEAR AND GILLEY'S BOTH HOST HOLD 2000 PEOPLE, BUT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF VENUE, EVEN THOUGH THEY MIGHT HAVE. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE NEXT CATEGORY OF AN IDENTIFYING CO, THEY MIGHT HAVE THE SAME CO, BUT THEY HAVE VERY DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL IMPACTS TO THEMSELVES AND TO THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM.
AND THEY KNOW WHAT TIME THEY'RE LATE. THEY'RE LIKELY TO STAY OPEN TO WHATEVER YOUR LATEST CLOSING TIME. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND. SO THE VENUE CATEGORY, PLUS THE OPERATING HOURS, PLUS YOUR CAPACITY EQUAL THE TIER AT WHICH YOU WILL BE REVIEWED AND THE STANDARDS BY WHICH YOU WILL BE THE STANDARDS BY WHICH YOUR VENUE WILL BE MAINTAINED. THESE FACTORS ARE ULTIMATELY ABOUT CREATING BETTER FIT REGULATION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE VENUES TRYING TO OPERATE WITHIN THE SAME TIER,
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OR BEING HELD TO THE SAME STANDARD, EVEN THOUGH THEY FUNCTIONALLY OPERATE IN VERY DIFFERENT WAYS.WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT IT'S BROKEN DOWN BASED ON THE CAPACITY.
IT'S ALSO BROKEN DOWN BASED ON THE OPERATING HOURS.
AND AGAIN, THE OPERATING HOURS ARE WHAT IS THE LATEST TIME THAT YOU COULD BE OPEN, NOT WHAT YOU ARE REGULAR, BUT WHAT'S THE LATEST TIME THAT YOU COULD BE OPEN? SO YOU'LL SEE YOUR VENUE CATEGORY TYPE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.
YOU WILL SEE YOUR CAPACITY ALONG THE TOP AND THEN YOU'RE OPERATING ON, AND THAT SIGNIFIES THE TIER THAT YOU ARE OPERATING WITHIN, THE REVIEW TIER THAT YOU ARE OPERATING WITH. EXCUSE ME.
FOR EXAMPLE, A LARGE SITTING PERFORMANCE VENUE SHOULDN'T BE REGULATED IN THE SAME WAY AS I SAID AS A NIGHTCLUB, BECAUSE WE WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PROPORTIONAL REVIEW BASED ON REAL WORLD OPERATIONAL IMPACT.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW THE QUESTION ALWAYS BECOMES, IS THERE A STANDARD OF SAFETY? IS THERE A STANDARD OF EXPECTATION? AND THERE IS BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF THE TIER, ALL VENUES THAT ARE OPERATING UNDER AN ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE MUST MEET A BASELINE SET OF EXPECTATIONS. THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE PUBLIC SAFETY MEASURES.
AND AS VENUES INCREASE IN SCALE, CAPACITY OR OPERATING HOURS, OBVIOUSLY THE EXPECTATIONS AND OPERATIONAL STANDARDS FOR THOSE VENUES ALSO INCREASE BECAUSE THE IMPACT IS GOING TO INCREASE. THIS CREATES A FRAMEWORK ULTIMATELY WHERE HIGHER IMPACT OPERATIONS CARRY RESPONSIBILITY.
I WAS PRIVILEGED TO SERVE AS ONE OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAMS FOR THE BOMB FACTORY, ONE OF THE LARGER VENUES IN OUR CITY, AND FOR US, IT MAKES SENSE. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY OUTSIZED IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND AS A RESULT, WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT WE HAD AN EXPECTATION TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND US.
EVERY VENUE IS NOT THE SAME AND EVERY VENUE CANNOT OPERATE AND SHOULD NOT BE TREATED THE SAME.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE SYSTEM SHOULD ALLOW FLEXIBILITY FOR THE, FOR LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES TO HOST ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES INDEPENDENT OF WHAT THE BUSINESS IS. THIRD, OPERATORS SHOULD HAVE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS AND TRANSPARENT STANDARDS ACROSS THE CITY, THERE SHOULD BE NO WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT THIS RULE, THIS DANCEHALL LICENSE, THIS PROMOTERS LIKE IF ONE OF THESE THINGS APPLIES TO MY BUSINESS.
WE CAN'T HAVE A VIBRANT NIGHTLIFE COMMUNITY, A VIBRANT ENTERTAINMENT COMMUNITY, IF WE DON'T ALSO HAVE A VIBRANT RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AND WE HOLD BOTH OF THOSE THINGS INTENTIONAL.
WHAT THIS ISN'T? THIS ISN'T A BUSINESS LICENSE.
THIS IS NOT A THIS IS NOT AN SUP, THIS IS NOT A ZONING CHANGE.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL REGULATION.
THIS IS NOT GENRE OR CONTENT BASED. THIS IS FOCUSED ON IMPACT AND HOW WE BOTH PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CREATIVE ENTERTAINMENT, WHILE ALSO TAKING CARE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE EVERY DAY.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON IS THE FACT THAT WE, THE LIFESTYLE SHOULD BE PREDICTABLE, TRANSPARENT AND EFFICIENT.
WE HAVE TO EQUIP OUR OPERATORS WITH THE TOOLS AND INFORMATION THEY NEED.
IF WE EXPECT THEM TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER TO OUR EXPECTATIONS, WE CAN'T HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPLAINED OR THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND, OR THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND. SO THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THE STEPS OF THE APPLICATION ARE.
WE TRIED TO MAKE THIS AS SEAMLESS AND AS STREAMLINED AS POSSIBLE AS WELL.
THE APPLICATION PROCESS FIRST STARTS WITH EDUCATION AND PREPARATION, INCLUDING WORKSHOPS AND GUIDANCE MATERIALS PROVIDED BY THE CITY TO THE OPERATOR SEEKING THIS LICENSE. APPLICANTS MUST THEN SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION THROUGH APPROVAL, AND THEN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS WILL REVIEW THE APPLICATION TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH RELEVANT CODES AND SAFETY STANDARDS. IF REVISIONS ARE NEEDED, THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM BEFORE A FINAL DETERMINATION IS MADE.
THAT'S A KEY THING RIGHT THERE, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WASN'T ABOUT PUNITIVE. WE WANT GOOD OPERATORS CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE NIGHTLIFE ENTERTAINMENT TO BE ENGAGED. WE JUST WANT THEM TO DO IT WELL. AND THEN SUCCESSFUL APPLICANTS WILL RECEIVE A LICENSE WITH A TWO YEAR TERM.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SOUND MANAGEMENT. REEVALUATING THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE.
THE GOAL IS TO BETTER SUPPORT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS WHILE BALANCING NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS.
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IT'S CHALLENGING AS THE NOISE STARTS TO BLEED OVER INTO THEIR DAILY LIFE.AND SO THIS WAS A SPECIFIC FOCUS OF THE TASK FORCE.
SO WE STUDIED TASK. EXCUSE ME, WE STUDIED BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, WHILE ALSO PROTECTING RESIDENTS FROM EXCESSIVE NOISE IMPACTS. WE'RE NOT THE FIRST TO ADDRESS THIS. WE'RE NOT THE FIRST TO FACE THIS. SO LET'S GO TO SOME OF OUR PEERS AND SEE HOW THEY'RE ADDRESSING IT IN THOSE OTHER MARKETS. SO THE PROPOSED FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE PRESENTING ESTABLISHES CLEAR AND MEASURABLE STANDARDS, REPLACING WHAT HAS OFTEN BEEN SEEN AS VAGUE OR DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE PROVISIONS.
THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ESTABLISH SOUND STANDARDS THAT ARE CONTEXT SENSITIVE, MEANING THEY VARY DEPENDING ON LOCATION AND TIME OF DAY, BECAUSE THOSE TWO THINGS DO MATTER. THIS ALLOWS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS AND ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENTS TO OPERATE WITH THE APPROPRIATE FLEXIBILITY THAT THEY NEED, WHILE MAINTAINING PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WHERE THEY MIGHT BE SITUATED. AND WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE CODE TEAM BE OUTFITTED WITH THE PROPER TOOLS, THE PROPER DB METERS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS HIGH QUALITY ENFORCEMENT AND TO MOVE INTO THE OBJECTIVE SIDE OF THE SOUND MANAGEMENT, AS OPPOSED TO SOME OF THE SUBJECTIVE SIDES THAT MAY EXIST CURRENTLY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
THIS IS A TIERED SOUND MATRIX, AND IT ESTABLISHES DECIBEL LIMITS BASED ON VENUE TIER THAT WE WERE INTRODUCED TO PREVIOUSLY, AND ALSO OPERATING HOURS. YOU'LL NOTICE THAT VENUES LOCATED WITHIN CONCENTRATED ENTERTAINMENT AREAS MAY OPERATE AT A SLIGHTLY HIGHER LEVEL DURING DESIGNATED TIMES BECAUSE OF THE VERY NATURE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES. YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS GIVEN TO VENUES WITH A RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY WITHIN 330FT.
THESE DECIBEL LIMITS WERE TAKEN BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE DEEP ELLUM NOISE TASK FORCE, WHICH WAS A TASK FORCE THAT WAS EMPANELED BY THE DEEP ELLUM FOUNDATION AND PARTICIPATED IN BY MEMBERS OF STAFF TO REALLY GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF NOISE DURING VARIOUS TIMES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, LIKE DEEP ELLUM.
ADJACENCY NOISE, ADJACENCY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
VENUES THAT ARE CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL USES WILL ABSOLUTELY BE SUBJECT TO STRICTER LIMITS AND DECIBEL LIMITS FOR TIERS 3A AND 3B ARE AVERAGES FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT WE ALWAYS WELCOME COMMITTEE FEEDBACK TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT EXPECTATIONS YOU MIGHT BE HEARING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
THE GOAL IS THAT THIS APPROACH WILL ENSURE STANDARDS ARE TAILORED TO THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT, RATHER THAN UNIFORMLY APPLIED ACROSS THE CITY.
THE WAY VOLUME WORKS IN ONE IN PLEASANT GROVE MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS THE WAY VOLUME WORKS IN BISHOP ARTS OR DEEP ELLUM OR OAK CLIFF, AND WE WANT TO BE CONSIDERATE OF THAT IN THE WAY THIS MATRIX IS REPRESENTED.
THE END TIME WHERE IT SAYS 12:00 P.M. APOLOGIES, THAT SHOULD SAY 12:00 A.M.
OR THAT WOULD BE A VERY EARLY NIGHT FOR SOME PEOPLE.
SO APOLOGIES FOR THAT. WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION PRIOR TO THIS COMING BEFORE YOU, BUT THE ENDING TIME ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE SHOULD REFLECT 12:00 A.M.
WHERE IT SAYS 12:00 P.M. WE ADDRESS, AND THIS REFLECTS OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND.
SPEAKERS ON A PATIO ARE GOING TO HAVE AN OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENT IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
AND IT ALSO TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY TO ALLOW FLEXIBILITY AND ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY FOR WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS, RECOGNIZING THAT THOSE ARE CONSIDERED DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOUND ENVIRONMENTS IN MOST CASES.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALSO ADDRESSING THE IDEA OF THE AGENT OF CHANGE.
THE IDEA. INSPIRED BY AUSTIN AND SAN FRANCISCO, THE IDEA THAT LONG ESTABLISHED OR ESTABLISHED ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, WHEN DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH THE ESTABLISHED ENTERTAINMENT VENUE AND THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE COMING IN ARE BOTH ABLE TO PARTICIPATE SUCCESSFULLY IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO THE AGENT OF CHANGE INDICATES THAT THE AGENT, THE ENTITY, WHETHER IT'S THE DEVELOPER OR THE VENUE MOVING INTO AN AREA, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THE THINGS TO MITIGATE THEIR IMPACT.
SO A NEW RESIDENTIAL HOTEL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S MOVING NEAR A NIGHTLIFE VENUE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR INCORPORATING SOUND ATTENUATION MEASURES, AND THEY WOULD NOT BE EXPECTING THE ESTABLISHED VENUE TO ADJUST THEIR TO ADJUST THEIR OPERATIONS.
THEY WOULD ALSO THEN BE REQUIRED TO ALERT THEIR PATRONS THAT THERE IS A MUSIC VENUE AND ENTERTAINMENT VENUE NEARBY, AND WHATEVER CAPACITY THAT IS NECESSARY. THIS PREVENTS NEW DEVELOPMENT FROM RETROACTIVELY RESTRICTING LONG STANDING LAWFUL VENUES,
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BUT ALLOWS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE VENUES TO STILL OPERATE SUCCESSFULLY.WHILE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AND BENEFIT FROM, RATHER, THE COMMUNITY AND THE ARTISTIC AND THE ENTERTAINMENT VIBRANCY THAT THEY HAVE IN THAT COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ONE OF THE KEY THINGS HERE IS THAT RECOMMENDATION.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE [INAUDIBLE] NIGHT-TIME ECONOMY AND THE RESPONSIBLE HOSPITALITY DIVISION INTEND TO HOST QUARTERLY WORKSHOPS TO HELP NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT OPERATORS SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE APPLICATION AND UNDERSTAND REGULATORY EXPECTATIONS.
A GUIDEBOOK WILL BE CREATED AND PROVIDED TO DALLAS LATE NIGHT BUSINESSES WITH PRACTICAL INFORMATION.
SO LET'S PROVIDE YOU SOME FRAMEWORK. LET'S PROVIDE YOU SOME STRUCTURE AND PROMOTE AND INCENTIVIZE ADDITIONAL TRAINING PROGRAMS TO STRENGTHEN RESPONSIBLE HOSPITALITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY PRACTICES. SO THE WAY THIS WILL WORK, THE ENFORCEMENT STRUCTURE, THE COMPLAINT ISSUE IS IDENTIFIED.
FOR MAJOR A NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND FOLLOW UP THAT IF ISSUES CONTINUE, A FORMAL NOTICE IS ISSUED WITH A TIMELINE TO RESOLVE THE VIOLATION, FOLLOWED BY REINSPECTION AND MONITORING. ESCALATION FOR NONCOMPLIANCE.
CONTINUED VIOLATIONS MAY LEAD TO CITATIONS, MAY LEAD TO FINES OR COURT ACTION, AND REPEATED OFFENSES CAN RESULT IN SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF THE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE. BUT THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS. BUSINESSES MAY APPEAL ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS THROUGH A HEARING PROCESS IF THE LICENSE IS REVOKED, AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE VENUE MAY STILL OPERATE UNDER ITS PRIMARY CO, BUT WITHOUT THE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES THE LICENSE AFFORDS.
THESE MAY INCLUDE FEE WAIVERS, REDUCED REQUIREMENTS OR BENEFITS TIED TO TRAINING PARTICIPATION.
WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BE GOOD OPERATORS AND TO DO THINGS LIKE INCORPORATING SAFETY TECHNOLOGY CAMERAS, METAL DETECTORS, ID SCANNERS INTO THEIR PRACTICE AND IN SO DOING, THEY MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFER.
AND IN SO DOING, WE WANT TO WE WANT TO CELEBRATE AND REWARD THEM FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
A PUBLIC MEETING WAS HELD ON FEBRUARY THE 18TH AT LIFE IN DEEP ELLUM.
IT WAS TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TASK FORCE.
OVERALL SENTIMENT OF THE PARTICIPANTS WAS SUPPORTIVE.
THE QUESTIONS ASKED AND ANSWERED ARE LISTED ON THIS SLIDE.
SOME OF THOSE HAD TO DO WITH HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO GET A PERMIT.
THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE LICENSES AND EXISTING PERMITS, AND FOR SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AS DISTRICTS TURNED MORE HEAVILY TO ENTERTAINMENT. HOW WERE THEIR INTEREST IN NEEDS PROTECTED? SO THE ANSWERS THAT WERE GIVEN AT THE TIME ARE ALSO LISTED ON THE SLIDE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL THINGS WE WERE TASKED WITH WAS LOOKING, BECAUSE OF THE FAIRLY TIGHT TIMELINE, WAS TO COMPILE A LIST OF ITEMS AND BARRIERS THAT NEEDED FUTURE EVALUATION. SO IN DOING THAT THERE'S SEEMS TO BE AN UNCLEAR DEFINITION OF RESTAURANT.
THERE'S AMBIGUITY IN ITS CURRENT USE WHICH CREATES REGULATORY UNCERTAINTY.
FOR THE BUSINESSES, LEADING TO INCONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE DISPUTES ALSO RISK FOR THE OPERATORS WHO ARE NOT SURE HOW TO OPERATE. THE AGENT OF CHANGE THAT DAMANY TOLD YOU ABOUT ON THE EARLIER SLIDE, THE PRINCIPLES REQUIRE STRONGER ALIGNMENT WITH BUILDING CODE STANDARDS, INCLUDING SOUND ATTENUATION REQUIREMENTS WHERE POSSIBLE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS NEAR ESTABLISHED ENTERTAINMENT VENUES. ALSO, CLEARER DISCLOSURE TO RESIDENTS MOVING INTO AREAS THAT
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ARE ENTERTAINMENT VENUES BY THE LEASING AGENTS AND DEVELOPERS.THAT WAY, WHEN THE COMPLAINTS COME IN ABOUT NIGHTLIFE ACTIVITY, IT CAN BE ROUTED TO THE APPROPRIATE CITY TEAM INSTEAD OF MISDIRECTED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR NOISE COMPLAINT RESIDENTIAL. ALSO, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH SOUND DEVELOPMENT.
A DEFINITION OF ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WOULD PROBABLY BE HELPFUL.
IT WOULD HELP FLESH OUT AND FURTHER DEFINE SOUND MANAGEMENT PROCESS.
ALSO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE APPROVED AND ENACTED.
WE ALL FEEL STRONGLY THAT APPROXIMATELY A YEAR OUT THOSE BE REEVALUATED FOR IMPACTS.
AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU CHANGE A LOT OF THINGS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
SO TO BE REEVALUATED FOR THEIR EFFECTIVENESS IN ANY REVISIONS THAT MAY BE NEEDED AT THAT TIME.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU TERRY. I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE SOME OF OUR SISTER DEPARTMENTS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THIS INTER-DEPARTMENTAL LIFT TO SUPPORT THE NIGHT-TIME DIVISION AND SECTOR TO SUPPORT THE TASK FORCE'S EFFORTS. WE HAD PRESENCE FROM CODE COMPLIANCE SERVICES, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, DPD, AND DFR. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, OAC IS PRETTY NEW TO THAT GANG.
AS WE NEWLY RECEIVED OVERSIGHT OF THE NIGHT-TIME ECONOMY AND RESPONSIBLE HOSPITALITY DIVISION.
SO I ACTUALLY WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN WEST FOR ESTABLISHING THE TASK FORCE AND HELPING US HAVE THIS DEEP DIVE, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY LEARNED A LOT ALONG THE WAY THAT IS VERY NECESSARY TO HAVE SUCCESSFUL OVERSIGHT OF THIS DIVISION.
ULTIMATELY, THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS AIM TO SUPPORT A THRIVING NIGHTLIFE ECONOMY WHILE MAINTAINING A SAFE AND GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND WORK HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS BY MODERNIZING OUTDATED POLICIES AND ESTABLISHING CLEAR EXPECTATIONS.
WE HERE AT THE CITY CAN FOSTER BOTH ECONOMIC VITALITY AND IMPROVED NEIGHBORHOOD QUALITY OF LIFE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK CHAIR WEST FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO, TO ESTABLISH THIS TASK FORCE, TO TERRY FOR COMING BACK INTO THIS BUILDING [LAUGHTER] TO JUMP BACK IN.
THANK YOU FOR LEADING THIS EFFORT AND TO DAMANY AND MARTINE AND ALL OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS FOR YOUR WORK AND COMMITMENT IN ADDRESSING THIS AND MAKING SURE THAT IT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT. THANK YOU, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR DOING THAT AT THIS TIME.
I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND I'LL START WITH CHAIR WEST. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
AND THANKS TO YOU FOR JUMPING IN FRONT OF THIS AS WELL.
THEY SHOULD APPLY TO OUR THOUSANDS OF SMALL BUSINESSES AND ESPECIALLY OUR ENTERTAINMENT OPERATORS.
SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
I WAS WRITING DOWN ALL THE SLIDES THAT HAD THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT SHOWED JUST WHAT THIS TASK FORCE PUT INTO IT ALONG WITH CITY STAFF. AND THERE WERE SO MANY SLIDES, I STOPPED WRITING THE NUMBERS.
AND WHAT IT SHOWED ME IS THAT THE TECHNICALITIES HAVE BEEN WORKED THROUGH WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB.
THANKS TO THE HARD WORK OF EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM AND PROBABLY OTHERS.
MY CONCERN WILL BE THE EXECUTION OF ISSUING THE LICENSE BY CITY STAFF.
I'M LOOKING OVER HERE AT MY ACMS AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE INTENT IN THE WORLD WILL BE GREAT.
BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EXECUTION ON THE FRONT LINE BY CITY STAFF, IT COULD BE A PROBLEM.
SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO? IF I'M, IF I'M A RESTAURANTEUR WHO WANTS TO GET AN ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE, WHAT DOES THIS LOOK LIKE FOR ME? AND I GUESS ANYONE CAN ANSWER THIS.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO THE NIGHTTIME DIVISION IN OAC WILL BE PROCESSING THOSE APPLICATIONS.
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COMMISSIONER DANIEL WALKED THROUGH THOSE APPLICATION STEPS.BUT THE PERMIT PROCESSING, LICENSE PROCESSING IS HAPPENING WITH THE STAFF WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM CES.
DO WE HAVE A LIKE A TIMELINE FROM WHEN SOMEONE APPLIES FOR A PERMIT TO WHEN THE PERMIT SHOULD BE ISSUED OR A RESPONSE SHOULD BE PROVIDED? IF I MISS OUT ON THE SLIDES, I APOLOGIZE.
THAT QUESTION WE RECEIVED DURING OUR PUBLIC MEETING AS WELL, AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THOSE STEPS.
WE WERE HOPING TO GET SUPPORT FIRST FROM THE TASK FORCE, FROM THESE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE AT THIS BODY, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH FLESHING THOSE STEPS OUT.
BUT WE OBVIOUSLY INTEND TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A QUICK TURNAROUND TIME, BUT THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED.
OKAY. THAT'S I APPRECIATE THAT A LOT OF THE. WHAT I'M SEEING IN THIS BRIEFING IS A LOT OF THE REGULATORY PROVISIONS TO ENSURE WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND EVERYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ALL HAPPY AND ALL THAT, AND THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
AND THAT THE RULES ARE CLEAR AND THEY ARE, TO ME AT LEAST.
YOU KNOW, I THINK ONCE I DIGEST THIS, THEY'LL BE PRETTY CLEAR WHAT I'M MISSING IS WHAT I JUST SAID, WHICH IS THE, THE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING RESPONSIVE TO PEOPLE WANTING TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS INDUSTRY.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE BEFORE THIS COMES TO FULL COUNCIL, ASSUMING THIS COMMITTEE PUSHES IT FORWARD, IS THAT THERE IS IT'S REALLY CLEAR HOW SOMEONE WOULD APPLY AND THEN HOW STAFF WOULD PROCESS IT AND THEN HOW MANY DAYS THEY HAVE TO PROCESS IT OR KICK IT BACK.
AND THEN HOW WE HOLD THAT STAFF ACCOUNTABLE THROUGH METRICS.
DID I SAY, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M GETTING AT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
WE HAVE A FLOW CHART THAT REFLECTS IN DRAFT, OF COURSE, BUT IT MIMICS THE SAME FOR YOU WOULD SEE FOR LIKE OFFICE OF SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITS SO THAT FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC ARE VERY CLEAR ABOUT EACH STEP.
WE ESTIMATED A THREE-MONTH TURNAROUND IN THE Q&A, BUT WE'RE WORKING TO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, MY PREFERENCE IS TO STREAMLINE OUR EFFORTS TO WORK A BIT MORE SWIFTLY.
OUR PLANS IN THAT IN THAT. YEAH. UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YEAH, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT. AND I WILL JUST SAY THIS IN TERMS OF THE TASK FORCE YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TASK FORCE, THE WORD TASK FORCE IS, IS UTTERED, PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY ROLL THEIR EYES, RIGHT? [LAUGHTER] THEY'RE LIKE, NOTHING'S EVER GOING TO GET DONE. IT'S, THIS IS WHERE THINGS GO TO DIE. BUT THANKS TO DIRECTOR PHILIPPE, THANKS TO OUR, OUR ACMS, ESPECIALLY TASK FORCE CHAIR LOWERY AND OUR TASK FORCE MEMBERS AND THE CITY MANAGER WHO, WHO WAS VERY WHO WAS READY TO JUMP IN FRONT OF THIS.
THIS WAS A CODE JUST DOING THEIR JOB, BUT IT WAS GOING TO SHUT DOWN SMALL BUSINESSES AND YOU GUYS RALLIED AND YOU WORKED TOGETHER AND THE CITY MANAGER HELD OFF ON THAT, THE CLOSURE OF SOME OF THOSE BUSINESSES AND SHUTTING DOWN THE ENTERTAINMENT BECAUSE SHE VALUED THE SUCCESS OF THESE SMALL BUSINESSES. ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT LAURA MORRISON, WHO I KNOW DID A LOT OF THE DRAFT ON THIS, OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND YES, LASTLY, ON THE FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS, I AGREE THAT THESE ARE ALL CONCERNS THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED. AND CHRIS [INAUDIBLE] CAUGHT ME ON THE WAY IN HERE.
I HAD NO IDEA WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAVE A DEFINITION OF ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
SO I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW TODAY. I ALSO LIKE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS REVIEWED IN A YEAR AND REVIEWING THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS, AND ALSO THE STAFF PERFORMANCE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE PERMITS OUT.
SO WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I'M DONE. THANK YOU THANK YOU, CHAIR WEST. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DONNELL WILLIS.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THESE FINDINGS TO US TODAY.
AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE THREE-MONTH ESTIMATED TIME PERIOD, AND IT DID MAKE ME WONDER WHY SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULDN'T BE PROCESSED QUICKLIER OR MORE, MORE QUICKLY. SO BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE IT TALKED ABOUT IT DEPENDS ON THE APPLICATION ACCURACY AT SUBMISSION. AND I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THIS APPLICATION.
I'M HOPING IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ONEROUS FOR A SMALL BUSINESS.
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FIRST, I WANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ARE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS.AND SO ANYTHING THAT STAFF HAS BEGUN TO DRAFT IS SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE SAKE OF OUR TIME, WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF WHAT YOU MAY SUPPORT WITHIN THIS LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
A SERIES OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THEN TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION FOLLOWING THAT.
AND SO IF YOU WOULD GIVE US GUIDANCE THAT SUGGESTS THAT, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR APPLICANTS NEED TO SEE THE INFORMATION IN A CERTAIN WAY ETC. WE'RE HAPPY TO ENSURE THAT HAPPENS. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT TOO MUCH ONUS IS BEING PUT ON COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT THE EXPERTS ON CODE AND THIS.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO PUT ON A BUSINESS APPLICATION FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE OVERALL PHILOSOPHY WOULD BE IT'S EASY TO GET TANGLED UP IN ASKING TOO MUCH, AND IT'S LIKE, WHAT'S THE CRITICAL NEED THAT WE HAVE? AND TO KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE. AND THEN IF WE FIND THAT WE NEED TO ADD LAYERS, DO SO MAYBE GRUDGINGLY [LAUGHTER].
SO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS WHEN THERE WAS THE TIERS EARLIER AND THERE WAS THE A, B, C, D THE COMPLEXITY OF THE APPLICATION DEPENDS ON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE OPERATION.
THE, THE INTENT IS THAT THE VERY SIMPLE, MINIMALLY IMPACTFUL VENUES HAVE A VERY SHORT, CONCISE FORM TO FILL OUT AS THE VENUE SIZE AND THE COMPLEXITY OF THE OPERATIONS INCREASE.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S MORE NEED. THAT MAKES SENSE.
OKAY. ALSO, I WAS NOTICING IN YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ABOUT HOLDING OPERATIONS ACCOUNTABLE TO STANDARDS THAT RESPECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE. AND SO I WAS JUST NOTING THAT THIS IS ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT VENUES AND RESPECTING QUALITY OF LIFE, OF NEIGHBORS AND JUST WANTING TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE ALSO RESPECTING THAT NEIGHBORS NEED TO RESPECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF NEIGHBORS.
AND THAT ALSO LED ME TO ON PAGE 12 ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND CROWD CONTROL.
CAN YOU TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE CROWD CONTROL ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD OR THAT MIGHT BE COMING UP IN AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT? BECAUSE HAVING EXPERIENCED THAT AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL, I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING EQUITABLE AS FAR AS HOW WE ADDRESS YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE CROWDS THAT COULD BE DANGEROUS, THAT REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY ARE IN THE CITY, THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR RESIDENTS.
YES, MA'AM. ONCE AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO THE COMPLEXITY OF THE VENUE, THE VENUES THAT HAVE LARGER CAPACITY AND THEY HAVE OPERATIONS THAT ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE DISRUPTIVE TO NEIGHBORHOOD. THE REQUIREMENTS ON THOSE VENUES IS STRICTER THAN OTHERS.
SO YES, THERE IS. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS. ORIGINALLY WE LOOKED AT CAPACITY SIZE AND REALIZED THAT DOESN'T COVER IT, BECAUSE THE RISK IS NOT NECESSARILY ONLY CAPACITY SIZE.
IT'S THE TYPE OF VENUE, IT'S THE TYPE OF CROWD.
IT'S IN AND OUT. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO ONCE AGAIN, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY ESCALATE AS THE OPERATIONAL RISK THROUGH THE TIERS INCREASES. AND YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE VENUE ITSELF.
YOU MENTIONED NEIGHBORHOODS. SO IS THIS ALSO CONCERN ABOUT IT SPILLING IN IF IT'S ADJACENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD? YES, THERE ARE SOME, SOME ITEMS IN THERE ABOUT THE CLEANUP IN THE AREA, HOW FAR THE NOISE GOES, ETC. THE REQUIREMENTS ON THE VENUES. ONE THING I DID DISCOVER, I LEARNED A LOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
I KNOW IT IMPACTS THE CITY ON MULTIPLE LEVELS, AND I THINK THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNCIL, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, CITY STAFF, OUR TASK FORCE SHOWS HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO THE CITY.
SO YEAH, I, YES. WE'VE GOT SOME FUN BUSINESSES.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL HAVE PUT THOUGHT INTO THIS.
SO THAT'S ALL CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR, RIDLEY.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. REFERRING TO SLIDE 6. 16.
THE APPLICATION STEPS. I'M FOCUSED ON THE 8.1 AFTER THE LICENSE IS ISSUED, WHAT KIND OF OVERSIGHT WILL BE IN PLACE AFTER LICENSES ARE ISSUED AND WHAT WILL BE THE CRITERIA FOR RESCISSION OF ANY LICENSE?
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SORRY. WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THE QUESTION, PLEASE, SIR? SURE. WHAT OVERSIGHT OF LICENSEES WILL THERE BE AFTER ISSUANCE OF LICENSES? AND WHAT CRITERIA WILL BE APPLIED TO RESCIND A LICENSE ALREADY ISSUED? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN OUR MEETINGS WAS THAT AFTER THE LICENSES HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND THE VENUE IS OPERATING, THAT THERE WOULD BE A FOLLOW UP VISIT TO THE VENUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULES OF THEIR PARTICULAR LICENSE.THERE WAS A SPECIFIC LAID OUT POLICY FOR ENFORCEMENT STEPS.
IF EDUCATION FIRST FAILS, THEN WE MOVE ON TO ADDITIONAL STEPS.
ENDING FINALLY WITH A REVOCATION OF THE PERMIT.
THAT WOULD NOT STOP THE VENUE FROM DOING THEIR NORMAL BUSINESS.
AND WHAT CRITERIA WOULD LEAD TO REVOCATION? HAVE YOU GOTTEN THAT FAR YET? WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT LOOSELY, BUT AS FOR LAYING IT DOWN, I WOULD, I'M GOING TO USE MY UNFAVORITEST WORD, WHICH IS ASSUME IT WOULD BE ON VIOLATION OF THE TERMS OF THEIR PERMIT.
THE PERMITS HAVE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFETY NOISE HOURS CAPACITY.
SO IF THEY VIOLATE THOSE MULTIPLE TIMES AND EDUCATION IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO CHANGE IT.
THEN YOU MOVE THROUGH THE STEPS AND. WELL, WE'VE HAD AN INSTANCE WITH THE RODEO BAR IN DEEP ELLUM.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF A SIMILAR INFRACTIONS OR EVENTS OCCUR AT ANOTHER VENUE UNDER LICENSE, THAT THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS OF PUBLIC SAFETY THREATS IS CONSIDERED IN WHETHER TO RESCIND A LICENSE. I AM I AM AWARE OF THAT.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ATTEMPTED TO BE VERY CLEAR IN, IN OUR REQUIREMENTS WAS TO GIVE THE CITY ADDITIONAL TOOLS AND I BELIEVE DAMANY WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY THAT IS A KEY CONSIDERATION THROUGHOUT ALL OF THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST ADDRESSING THE THINGS WITHIN THE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE, BUT THE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY, AS YOU SAID, THE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO AS THE SISTER DEPARTMENTS ALWAYS SEE, ARE INTERACTING WITH THESE BUSINESSES, WHETHER IT'S CODE, WHETHER IT'S DPD, WHETHER IT'S DFR, THE IDEA IS THAT IF THERE ARE INFRACTIONS IN THOSE AREAS, THOSE GO INTO THE FILE ABOUT THE OFFENDING ENTITY WITH THE GOAL THAT BASED ON A TO BE DETERMINED NUMBER OF INFRACTIONS AFTER SO MANY INFRACTIONS OR VIOLATIONS, THE NEXT PHASE IN THE IN THE PUNITIVE OR CORRECTIVE PROCESS BEGINS.
AND SO THAT IS THE GOAL IS TO REALLY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ARE THOSE LEVELS, WHAT ARE THOSE THRESHOLDS? BUT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT CODE IS DOING, AS YOU SAID, FROM THE ENTITY IMPACT IN DEEP ELLUM, THEN THE WORK THAT THE LATE-NIGHT CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM, WHAT ARE THEY SEEING? WHAT ARE THEY DOING? AND THE SAME THING FOR DFR, DPD, AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY THAT MAY BE INTERACTING WITH THAT BUSINESS.
OKAY. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT NOTWITHSTANDING ALL OF THE APPLICATION CRITERIA AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE LICENSE, THAT THE STAFF RETAIN THE FLEXIBILITY TO NOT ONLY ISSUE CITATIONS, BUT ALSO POSSIBLY RESCIND THE LICENSE IF THERE ARE EXTRANEOUS EVENTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE APPLICATION CRITERIA, SUCH AS DEALING OF DRUGS ON PREMISES, SEX TRAFFICKING, VIOLENT CRIMES.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM HAMSTRUNG BY A LIMITED NUMBER OF REGULATIONS HAVING TO DO WITH HOURS AND NOISE AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THAT DON'T CONSIDER VIOLATIONS OF CRIMINAL LAW.
THAT IS ALSO INCLUDED. ANY VIOLATION OF STATE FEDERAL.
GREAT. CRIMINAL LAW IS REVOCATION. CHAIR
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OKAY. AND IF I MIGHT CHIME IN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.REALLY VALUABLE. AS DIRECTOR PHILIPPE SAID, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE.
IF IT IS THE WILL OF THIS BODY AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD, OBVIOUSLY AT STAFF LEVEL, AS WE PREPARE DRAFTING APPLICATIONS AND LOOKING AT WHAT ORDINANCES NEED TO BE AMENDED, WE WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A SMOOTH PROCESS AND THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
DID YOU ADDRESS THE PROCESS OF RENEWING LICENSES SUCH THAT WILL THAT BE A PRO FORMA PROCESS OF CHECKING THE BOX? OR WILL YOU UNDERGO THE SAME INVESTIGATION AND REVIEW WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU DID AT THE TIME OF THE INITIAL APPLICATION? YES WE DID. THERE WOULD BE A SIMILAR REVIEW IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE LICENSE, THEN THAT WILL GET ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY. THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK OF REWARDING GOOD OPERATORS THAT HAVE NO, NO VIOLATIONS THAT ARE OPERATING WELL OF MAYBE A SHORTER TIME PERIOD OR A LONGER TIME PERIOD BEFORE THEY RENEW, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS SUBJECT TO STAYING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LICENSE.
OKAY. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN AT THE TIME OF LICENSE RENEWAL, SO THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF PUBLIC NOTICE THAT ITS LICENSE IS UP FOR RENEWAL AND PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE TO PROVIDE INPUT ON WHETHER THEY THINK THE LICENSE SHOULD BE RENEWED.
THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT INCIDENTS THAT MAY NOT BE IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED IS TO HAVE A QR CODE POSTED, WHERE PEOPLE THAT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A PARTICULAR OPERATOR CAN FILE A COMPLAINT. IT ALSO WILL HAVE THE INTENT IS TO HAVE INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT STEPS SOMEONE CAN TAKE IF THERE IS AN ISSUE THEY NEED TO DEAL WITH.
OKAY, WELL, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE PUBLICATION IN SOME MANNER THAT A LICENSE IS UP FOR RENEWAL, AND THERE'S A SPECIFIED REVIEW PERIOD DURING WHICH PEOPLE CAN SUBMIT COMMENTS.
BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S UP FOR RENEWAL, THEY CAN'T SUBMIT COMMENTS.
OR AT LEAST NOT TIMELY ONES PERHAPS. ON SLIDE 18 WHERE DID THE 330FT RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY COME FROM? AND THE REASON I MENTION THIS IS I LIVE ABOUT TWO MILES AWAY FROM THE CONCERT VENUE AT FAIR PARK, AND I HEAR THE NOISE, THE SOUND FROM THE PERFORMANCES.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHERE THAT NUMBER COMES FROM.
YES YES. SO FOR CONSISTENCY THAT DISTANCE CAME FROM CHAPTER 51.A OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY REVIEW.
THERE ARE CERTAIN USES IN THE CODE TODAY THAT TRIGGER THAT REVIEW AT AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL, IF IT IS WITHIN 330FT OF A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
WELL, IS THAT BASED ON ANY SCIENTIFIC STUDIES OR ANALYSIS? IT'S BEEN IN THE CODE FOR A WHILE, AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THAT DISTANCE CAME FROM SO.
WELL, I SUBMIT THAT IN CERTAIN AREAS, LIKE MAJOR OUTDOOR CONCERT VENUES WITH HIGHLY AMPLIFIED SOUND, THAT THAT'S TOO SHORT A DISTANCE. AND MAYBE WHAT YOU DO IS IN THE TABLE OF SIZE OF VENUES IN TERMS OF PEOPLE THAT YOU FACTOR THAT INTO THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY.
SO THAT IT'S ONE THING ON GREENVILLE AVENUE PERHAPS, AND IT'S ANOTHER THING WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A THOUSAND PERSON CONCERT VENUE, IT'S A GREATER DISTANCE. AND THEN FINALLY ON SLIDE 19, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND SCHEDULE FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND, I THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE, EVEN ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, TO ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE UNTIL 2:00 A.M.
MANY PEOPLE DO WORK ON THE WEEKENDS. THEY HAVE TO GET A NIGHT'S SLEEP.
I PROPOSE THAT IT SHOULD BE 12:00 P.M. THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MR. ROTH. POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
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DID YOU SAY P.M. OR A.M.? MIDNIGHT. OKAY [LAUGHTER].THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION ON YOUR VENUE CLASSIFICATION MATRIX.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CATEGORY A AMBIENT AND CATEGORY D AMPLIFIED PERFORMANCE.
TERILLI'S HAS A PIANO PLAYER THAT PLAYS.
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND ME? AM I CLEAR NOW? FOR AMBIENT IS TERILLI'S. TERILLI'S HAS A PIANO PLAYER THAT IS PLAYING MUSIC WHILE YOU'RE EATING DINNER.
BUT THE PIANO PLAYER IS NOT THE REASON THAT YOU WERE THERE. THEY ARE PROVIDING AMBIENT MUSIC.
ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, THE AMPLIFIED PERFORMANCE, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE VENUES WHERE CONCERTS, LIVE MUSIC OR DANCING ARE HAPPENING. SO THINK YOUR BOMB FACTORY, YOUR GILLEY'S, YOUR HOUSE OF BLUES, BUT ALSO YOUR ESCAPADE AND OTHER VENUES SUCH AS THAT AND IT'LL DO DANCE CLUB.
THANK YOU. I THINK THAT THAT POINTS OUT SOMETHING THAT'S CONCERNING TO ME IS THAT A LOT OF ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, THIS IS SORT OF RELATED TO RESTAURANT, BUT A SKATE PARK THAT HAS MUSIC GOING ON THAT'S PART OF THEIR, THEIR ACTIVITY. THE NEW BOAT, YOU KNOW, BOWLING ALLEYS NOW ARE, ARE CREATING MORE IN TIME IN, YOU KNOW, CLUB RELATED TYPE OF ACTIVITIES WHERE THEY'VE GOT ACTIVITY, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF MUSIC, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS. I WANT THESE PLACES TO BE ABLE TO EXIST.
AND BUT THESE ARE TYPICALLY SMALLER VENUES THAT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW COST EFFECTIVELY MANAGE AND CREATE THEIR SECURITY AND STUFF, AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO FALL IN TO A CATEGORY WHERE WE'RE TRYING REALLY TO REGULATE BAD ACTORS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN BIG NOISE, BIG CROWDS, BIG SORT OF LATE NIGHT ACTIVITIES.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD CAUTION YOU ALL TO TRY TO IMPOSE IN YOUR ACTUAL ORDINANCE REGULATION, SOME THOUGHTFULNESS IN DEFINING THESE ISSUES AND MAYBE MAKING SOME EXCEPTIONS TO RELATED ENTERTAINMENT VENUES THAT MIGHT HAVE MUSIC AS THEIR COMPONENT, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT, IT'S PART OF THEIR, THEIR OPERATIONS AND IT'S NOT.
AND IT ALSO CATERS TO A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE TOO.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO ON THE LICENSING.
BUT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND, AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LICENSING PROCESS IS, IS EASY, IT'S THOUGHTFUL AND IT'S NOT OPPRESSIVE IN THAT RESPECT. IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT PART OF YOUR LICENSING SHOULD DIRECT TO RECOVERING COSTS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY'S ENFORCEMENT AND, AND INSPECTION, ETC.
HAVE YOU? I DIDN'T NOTICE ANY ESTIMATED FEES OR, OR COST ALLOCATION FOR THE LICENSING.
HAVE YOU ALL THOUGHT ABOUT THAT YET? YES, SIR WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT AT SOME LENGTH.
LIKE MOST CITY FEES, IT WOULD BE BASED ON COST OF SERVICE.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE FEE CHARGED. YOU MIGHT WANT TO ALSO CONSIDER SOME KIND OF AN OFFSET FOR IN-KIND CONTRIBUTION THAT IF PEOPLE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL SECURITY, THE ADDITIONAL IN. WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS INCENTIVIZE FOLKS TO POLICE THEMSELVES IN A PROPER WAY.
I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT A TWO-YEAR LICENSE IS TOO SHORT.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT LICENSE SHOULD BE APPLIED FOR AND ALLOWED FOR MAYBE UP TO FIVE YEARS, WITH PERIODIC INSPECTIONS AND A CRITERIA FOR REVOKING THE LICENSE OR EXPIRATION OF THE LICENSE BASED ON A CERTAIN CRITERIA
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OF PENALTIES OR COMPLAINTS, ETC. PEOPLE WHO GO INTO THIS BUSINESS HAVE CAPITAL COSTS.THEY HAVE INVESTMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MAINTAINING THEIR PLACE, THAT THEY'RE SPENDING MONEY TO, TO KEEP THEIR PLACE UP. IF YOU HAVE A TWO-YEAR LEASE OR LICENSE TO DO SOMETHING IT DOESN'T INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO INVEST IN THEIR IN THEIR BUSINESS TO.
AND ALSO TO QUALIFY AND MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF THEIR OF THEIR OPERATIONS.
SO I THINK THAT'S A PLUS. IF WE HELP THEM GIVE THEM SOMETHING, BUT ALSO FORCE THEM TO TOE THE LINE.
AND JUST, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU CONSIDER THAT IN YOUR, IN YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT THAT LICENSE WOULD BE TRANSFERABLE AND AS PART OF AN APPLICATION PROCESS, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO BUY AND SELL BUSINESSES.
AND AGAIN, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE GOOD ACTIVITIES, WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE GOOD VENUES, AND WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR FOLKS TO GET INTO BUSINESS. THE LAST THING I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS THAT IF YOU ARE SUGGESTING AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT BE ESTABLISHED, WHICH I THINK SHOULD, SHOULD DEVELOP DIFFERENT CRITERIA THAN ONE OFF DEALS IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND IS THAT MAYBE WE INCORPORATE SOME KIND OF A MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION OR A ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENT WHERE THAT GROUP WHERE THAT AREA CAN PROVIDE SOME KIND OF SELF POLICING AND SELF-REGULATION AMONG ITS MEMBERS TO HELP US MONITOR BAD ACTORS AND ALSO ENCOURAGE PEER. PEER PRESSURE ON THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTING IN THE RIGHT WAY AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME GENTLE ENFORCEMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR US AND ALSO IN GENTLE ENTITLEMENT AND INCENTIVES THAT COULD BE PROVIDED BY THE CITY TO ENCOURAGE GOOD BEHAVIOR IN AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT FOR THE BENEFIT OF A, OF A LARGER GROUP. THOSE ARE SORT OF, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SUGGEST.
AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT LET'S, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE DETAILS OF THE ORDINANCE DON'T YOU KNOW, ARE ENFORCEABLE THOUGHTFUL IN OUR COLLABORATIVE TO ENCOURAGE BUSINESS IF WE CAN.
THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR CADENA. YES. I JUST WANT TO THANK DAMANY AND TERRY AND MARTINE AND THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, BECAUSE IN DISTRICT 6, OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IS REALLY WE HAVE A LOT OF SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES. AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING, DID YOU ALL THINK ABOUT THAT OR LOOK AT THAT AS Y'ALL WERE SEEING HOW THAT APPLIES TO THIS POTENTIALLY POTENTIAL LICENSE BECAUSE I COULD SEE HOW THEY WOULD FALL UNDER THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THE BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT AND ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES DEFINITION IS HERE. WE DECIDED SINCE THEY OPERATE UNDER A SEPARATE LICENSE, THAT THAT WAS KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, THAT WE WON'T DEAL WITH THEM. OKAY. BECAUSE I DO KNOW SOME OF THEM LIKE HAVE DANCE HALL LICENSES.
THEY DO HAVE RESTAURANT LICENSES AS WELL. SO THAT WON'T BE A PART OF THIS AT ALL? I DON'T KNOW, GOING FORWARD, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT GETS FINE TUNED.
JUST OUR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WERE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE PERMITTED SEPARATELY UNDER DIFFERENT STANDARDS, THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING KIND OF OUTSIDE OF OUR IMMEDIATE SCOPE.
OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. AND THEN I AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT Y'ALL LOOKED AT THE RESTAURANTS YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE BAR DEFINITIONS BECAUSE I KNOW HAVING HELPED MANY RESTAURANTS AND BARS THE DEFINITIONS BETWEEN TABC AND THE CITY AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ARE DIFFERENT. AND SO I THINK TO GET HELP CLARIFYING THAT AND THE TIME THAT YOU ALL SPENT IN WORKING ON IT IS MUCH APPRECIATED.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP OUR BUSINESSES THRIVE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA IT'S AWESOME TO SEE YOU BACK HERE, TERRY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE [LAUGHTER] AT THE PODIUM.
AND SO I FEEL FREE MR. WEST IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN AS WELL.
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A BUSINESS OWNER'S PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS THE INTENT OR THE HOPE? IF WE WERE TO WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND SEND THIS ON TO STAFF AND GET THE NEXT STEPS ON WHAT, WHAT WE WOULD BY IMPLEMENTING THIS LICENSE OPPORTUNITY AND TAKING THIS TO TASK. WHAT IS THE HOPEFUL OUTCOME FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS? THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS. I THINK ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS CONSISTENCY IS KNOWING AS A BUSINESS OWNER WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE THAT YOU'RE EXPECTED TO OPERATE WITHIN.WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IF THEY WERE BEING TOO LOUD, WHY THEY WERE BEING TOO LOUD BASED ON WHAT SUBJECTIVE OR OBJECTIVE, OBJECTIVE MEASURE THEY WERE BEING TOO LOUD, OR THEY WERE BEING IN VIOLATION.
AND SO ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IS TO KNOW THESE ARE THE RULES FOR YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS THE BUSINESS THAT YOU OPERATE, WHICH MEANS THAT THESE ARE THE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU TO. AND AS LONG AS YOU'RE A GOOD OPERATOR, WE'RE GOOD. EVERYBODY'S HAVING A GREAT TIME. IF, HOWEVER, YOU STEP OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS OF BEING A GOOD OPERATOR BASED ON THESE PRE PRESCRIBED AND PRE UNDERSTOOD STANDARDS, THEN HERE ARE THE CLEARLY IDENTIFIED STEPS THAT WE TAKE TO CORRECT AND THEN TO PROVIDE PUNITIVE DAMAGES AS A RESULT.
SO ULTIMATELY, AT THE CORE, THE BEDROCK OF IT ALL IS LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE OPENING BUSINESSES OR THAT HAVE BUSINESSES RIGHT NOW KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE FOR THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING. ADDITIONALLY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESSES AND THE GENESIS OF THIS CAME BECAUSE THERE WERE SEVERAL BUSINESSES WHO WERE BEING IMPACTED BECAUSE OF CHARGING A COVER FOR ENTERTAINMENT BEING ENJOYED IN THEIR SPACE.
AND SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S A REALITY FOR RESTAURANTS, THEY MAY BE LOOKING TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR INCOME, THAT THEY WILL HAVE LIVE MUSIC COME IN AND THAT LIVE MUSIC, THOSE PERFORMERS EXPECT TO BE PAID AND TO PAY FOR THOSE PERFORMERS, THEY RECOVER CHARGES THAT WERE BEING INCURRED OR THAT WERE BEING LEVIED.
AND SO THIS GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE BUSINESSES TO CHARGE THOSE COVERS.
AND THEN LASTLY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE. I'M NOT SAYING LASTLY.
BUT ADDITIONALLY, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO REGULATE PROPORTIONATELY.
THAT IT'S NOT JUST YOU ARE A BUSINESS THAT DOES X, YOU ARE A CONCERT VENUE.
WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WERE NOT BEING PENALIZED, OR THAT THEY WERE NOT BEING HAVING RULES APPLIED TO THEM BASED ON THE TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT. SO WE WANT TO GET REGULATION THAT IS FAIR, THAT IS CONSISTENT, AND THAT GIVES THE CITY THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH THESE BUSINESSES SUCCESSFULLY AND PROVIDE THEM WITH THE RESOURCES AND WHEN NECESSARY, THE CORRECTION TO HAVE A THRIVING NIGHTLIFE AND ENTERTAINMENT COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. I MEAN, IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE.
I DO, I HAVE SOME ISSUES, I THINK JUST RIGHT OFF THE TOP ON EQUITABLE ENFORCEMENT SPECIFICALLY.
AND I THINK YOU JUST BROUGHT UP REALLY GOOD THINGS THAT WE ALL WERE AWARE OF AND WANTED TO CORRECT.
BUT FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE ARE COMPARING POTENTIALLY THE SAME LICENSE BEING APPLIED FOR FROM ESTABLISHMENT, WHO DOES HAVE A BUILT-IN BUSINESS MODEL TO PAY COVER TO PAY FOR THOSE ACTS.
BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL STAGED PERFORMANCE VENUES THAT DON'T COVER CHARGE.
AND IF THE SAME EXPECTATION OR FEE, FOR INSTANCE, IS IMPOSED ON ONE BUSINESS VERSUS THE OTHER THAT COULD REALLY IMPACT THE MODEL OF A BUSINESS LIKE FAR OUT, FOR INSTANCE, WHO HAS GOOD ENTERTAINMENT AND DOESN'T CHARGE YOU TO JUST COME INTO THE ESTABLISHMENT. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF IS REALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUTTING A FINE COMB THROUGH IT, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO INADVERTENTLY PENALIZE SOME OF THE RESTAURANTS OR ENTERTAINMENT OR ENTERTAINMENT IN THIS CASE BUSINESSES THAT OFFER IT BUILT INTO THEIR BUSINESS MODEL AND THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME MORE ONEROUS, SO THAT PEOPLE DECIDE TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THEIR MODEL BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DESIGNATE THEMSELVES AS AN ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS.
SO THAT, TO ME, ISN'T NECESSARILY BROUGHT FORTH WITH THE FINDINGS OF THE TASK FORCE.
IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY MR. RIDLEY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT A BUSINESS IN DEEP ELLUM.
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WHAT IS THAT CRITERIA GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT MAYBE TIERED LEVEL OF ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.AND JUST AS IT WAS MENTIONED FROM THE EXPLANATION FROM DAMANY ON WHAT THE HOPEFUL OUTCOME IS.
IT'S ALSO FOR THE CITY TO BE PREPARED. IT'S NOT JUST TO PUT THE ONUS ON THE SMALL BUSINESSES.
AND SO IT'S ONE STEP FOR US TO ASK THEM TO GO THROUGH EVEN MORE HOOPS THAT I THINK THE RESTAURANT AND BAR INDUSTRY ALREADY HAVE TO GO THROUGH JUST TO OPERATE A LEGIT BUSINESS IN OUR CITY. BUT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO IT WITH NO REAL PLAN FOR US TO BE PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS. AND SO IF WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT LIKE ONE THAT WE ALREADY KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT AN ESTABLISHED DESIGNATION OR DEFINITION IN DEEP ELLUM, THEN THE CITY NEEDS TO COME FORWARD WITH THE RIGHT RESOURCES TO REALLY DIFFERENTIATE WHAT A CAUSATION VERSUS CORRELATION, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A MASS POPULATED STREET AND AN INSTANCE OR SEVERAL INSTANCES HAPPEN RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE FRONT DOOR OF SOMEONE'S ESTABLISHMENT. I PERSONALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT PERSON INSIDE OF THAT ESTABLISHMENT NEEDS TO BE HELD FULLY RESPONSIBLE.
THE CITY NEEDS TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ISSUED X AMOUNT OF ENTERTAINMENT LICENSES, THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A CERTAIN AREA AS A DISTRICT, AND THAT MEANS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROACTIVELY PROVIDE THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO PREVENT CERTAIN THINGS FROM HAPPENING, AND ALSO TO PROVIDE THE RIGHT ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT FOR THESE BUSINESS OWNERS SO THAT IT DOESN'T JUST FALL ON THEM.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO LOOK, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY, THERE'S A FEW THINGS OF EQUITY THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS, IS ABSOLUTELY CONSIDERED IN WHAT IS BROUGHT FORTH THE NEXT STEP.
ONE OF THOSE IS GRANDFATHERED RIGHTS. WE'VE SEEN MULTIPLE CASES COME UP SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL OF SUPS, FOR INSTANCE, OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOOD, OPERATORS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED, OPERATORS THAT HAPPEN TO BE, IN THIS CASE, MUCH CLOSER THAN 330FT, BECAUSE A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING HAS COME UP SINCE THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING.
AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS COMPLETELY ACCOUNTED FOR.
THE LAST THING THAT YOU WANT TO DO IS SEE A REVOLVING DOOR OF THIS GOVERNING BODY, AND NEW PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW THE ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP THAT CERTAIN BUSINESSES HAVE IN, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PULL THE PLUG FROM SOMEBODY'S LIVELIHOOD AND THEIR AND THEIR SMALL BUSINESS BECAUSE OF AN APARTMENT BUILDING WAS BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO THEM. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING.
THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE PROXIMITY HERE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE GRANDFATHERED RIGHTS FOR CERTAIN BUSINESSES, ONES THAT HAVE BEEN LONG STANDING.
AND WE ALSO NEED TO REALLY CONSIDER WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT HAVING OTHER BUILT-IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
HOWEVER, NOT EVERYBODY IS BLESSED WITH A DEEP ELLUM FOUNDATION. AND THE LAST THING I WANT IS FOR, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF EXPOSITION PARK OR BUSINESS OWNERS ON THE MLK CORRIDOR WHO DON'T HAVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE BUILT IN, DON'T HAVE A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF REVENUE TO DEVOTE TO RESOURCES TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THIS COST.
THEY SHOULD NOT BE PENALIZED. THEIR FEES SHOULD NOT BE MORE TO ACCRUE TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. I THINK THAT THIS IS GREAT INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT FORWARD, BUT WHAT YOU'VE BROUGHT FORWARD IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING ON TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS. AND THERE HAS TO BE A SECOND PIECE TO THAT.
IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE NECESSARY STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE RESOURCES TO RESPOND TO AND ACTUALLY SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES, INSTEAD OF IT JUST BEING CEREMONIAL AT BEST, THAT NOW WE'RE ESTABLISHED AS AN ENTERTAINMENT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT THE EXACT SAME FROM THE CITY.
TO ME, THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ROUND THIS OUT WITH NOT JUST HAVING EXPECTATIONS OF BUSINESS OWNERS, WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE INDUSTRY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
BUT INSTEAD, HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE PREPARED TO ADEQUATELY SUPPORT THEM AS WE MOVE FORWARD? AND THAT'S ALL I ASK THAT IS NOT IN THIS. AND SO THE NEXT STEP, WHEN STAFF BRINGS IT, I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT BE INCLUDED IN WHAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER BEFORE APPROVING ANYTHING. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
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SOME CONTEXT AND SOME CONFIRMATION ON SOME THINGS THAT YOU RAISED. FIRST, STARTING WITH THE IDEA OF THE, MAKING SURE THAT THE ESTABLISHED BUSINESS IS NOT GOING TO BE DISPLACED BY DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO VERY SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS IN OUR AGENT OF CHANGE PRINCIPLE, MEANING THAT THE AGENT OF CHANGE IN THAT INSTANCE IS A SCENARIO THAT YOU OUTLINED.IN THAT INSTANCE, THE AGENT OF CHANGE IS THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THAT DEVELOPER IS THERE IS THEREFORE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING CHANGES TO THEIR EDIFICE, TO THEIR STRUCTURE, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT AS IMPACTED BY THE ENTERTAINMENT AS OPPOSED TO GOING TO THE ENTERTAINMENT FACILITY AND SAYING, YOU GOT TO STOP. YOU HAVE TO STOP BEING SO LOUD.
YOU HAVE TO STOP BEING SO LATE. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, THAT WHEN CHANGE IS COMING INTO THAT COMMUNITY, THAT THEY'VE BEEN A PART OF FOR A LONG TIME, THAT THEY ARE NOT THEREFORE BEING DISPLACED. SO THAT WAS ONE THING THAT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT.
THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS HAVE CONSISTED OF A NUMBER OF BOTH RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. AND THEN THE SECOND THING, AS A RESULT TO THE ONEROUSNESS, I THINK ONEROUSNESS IS A WORD.
WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A THING THAT BECOMES ANOTHER BARRIER TO OWNERSHIP, THAT BECOMES ANOTHER BARRIER TO THE VIBRANCY OF THE ENTERTAINMENT COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES, BUT ALSO AS A COMMUNITY OF DALLAS.
AND SO THE STREAMLINED NATURE OF THE APPLICATION, THE EASE WITH WHICH WE WANT TO INTEND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROCESS CAN BE GONE THROUGH, AND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS, EXCUSE ME, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THERE ARE ALSO RECOMMENDATIONS. BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE.
REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU'RE CHOOSING TO OPEN UP YOUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT OR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENT, YOU ARE MAKING THE CITY OF DALLAS MORE VIBRANT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE BOTH CELEBRATED AND SUPPORTED DURING THAT PROCESS.
AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY PROVIDES SUPPORT, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
OBVIOUSLY, I'M ON THE DEEP ELLUM FOUNDATION. THANK YOU FOR CALLING US A POSTER CHILD. I'M GOING TO PUT THAT ON A T SHIRT. IN ADDITION [LAUGHTER], I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT CAME AS A RESULT OF INPUT AND IMPACT FROM A VARIETY OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND SO WE ARE TAKING ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE MAKE SURE THAT THIS APPLICATION, THE PROCESS FOR REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION, WHETHER THAT IS TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, NOT JUST THROUGH THE LENS OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR OF THE BUSINESS, BUT ALSO HEARING FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND SAYING, HOW DOES THIS PROCESS WORK FOR YOU? IS THIS TOO MUCH OR IS THIS JUST ENOUGH? AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM A NUMBER OF BUSINESS OWNERS, FROM SMALL BUSINESS. SMALL ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESSES TO LARGE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESSES, IS THAT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A GOLDILOCKS WHERE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE THAN THEY'RE USED TO GIVING, BUT IT'S EXPECTED FOR THE LEVEL OF IMPACT THEY'RE HAVING ON THE COMMUNITIES AROUND THEM.
AND THERE'S AN EXPECTATION AND ACCEPTANCE OF THAT BY A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE SPOKEN TO. BECAUSE EQUITY IS AT THE CORE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A VIBRANT ENTERTAINMENT COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. THANK YOU, DAMANY.
AND I ACTUALLY JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR CHRIS.
SPECIFICALLY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT I THINK YOU DEAL WITH IT.
I MEAN, YOU SEE IT MOST. BUT WE HAVE OFTEN ENFORCEMENT USED IN A FRIVOLOUS WAY.
AND WHEN WE HAVE. IN MY OPINION, KIND OF THE.
WHEN WE HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE BEING HARASSED BY NEIGHBORING RESIDENTS AND ATTEMPTING TO UTILIZE ENFORCEMENT, IT CAN. CAN WE LOOK. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE ORDINANCES ON THE BOOKS FOR US TO ENFORCE FRIVOLOUS OR FALSE 911 CALLS, FOR INSTANCE. WHAT CAN WE DO TO LOOK AT REPEAT OFFENDERS AND HOW? NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO. I MEAN, A PART OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE THAT EXPECTATION, RIGHT? A CONSISTENT EXPECTATION FOR BUSINESS OWNERS IF THEY'RE GOING. IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM TO GO THROUGH CERTAIN HOOPS, CAN WE AT LEAST GIVE SOME SORT OF ASSURANCE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH THE SAME ISSUES AND HARASSMENT THAT THEY'VE DEALT WITH FROM PEOPLE WHO MAYBE HAVE COME IN LATER, OR WHO HAVE CONTINUOUSLY NOT BEEN ABLE TO ENFORCE SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE LAWS.
THEY'RE GOOD ACTORS. WHAT CAN WE DO IN THAT REGARD? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE WORK ON THIS INITIAL LICENSING THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE ON WHEN EDDIE GRANT WAS HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT FOR NOISE COMPLAINTS.
LET US COME TO YOUR HOME TO RECORD THE IMPACT OF THE SOUND ON YOUR PROPERTY.
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BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THE FRIVOLOUS COMPLAINTS DOES PUT A LOT OF STRAIN ON OUR RESOURCES AS WELL AS THE BUSINESSES THEMSELVES.SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I DON'T WANT TO SEE, IS SOME ADVERSE IMPACT TO WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE GOOD FOR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WILL BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, AND WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. AND AGAIN, WE'RE ASKING SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, A LOT OF RESTAURATEURS THAT I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EXTRA STEP AND SOMETHING ONEROUS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET COACHED AND EDUCATED ON HOW TO EVEN GET THIS DONE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.
I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THERE. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS PRESENTATION AGAIN. BUT THE ONE QUESTION I ASK, DOES IT APPLY IF THEY DON'T CHARGE A COVER? YES, SIR.
BUT YES, IF THEY FALL INTO THE DEFINITION OF ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES, THEN YES.
BUT FOR THIS APPLICATION, THOSE APPLICATIONS ARE COMING DIRECTLY TO YOUR DEPARTMENT, CORRECT? YES, SIR THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. AND THEN SO THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY BE KIND OF AN INFLUX OF APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMING THAT YOUR STAFF WILL BE, NEED SOME TIME TO START PROCESSING. RIGHT? DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS COMING IN AS A BOATLOAD OF APPLICATIONS, OR IS IT OVER THE EDUCATION PROCESS? THEY'LL KIND OF COME IN TRANCHES.
I'M. HOW ARE YOU ANTICIPATING THIS AND HOW ARE YOU GEARING UP FOR THAT PART? I'LL SAY THIS. TERRY WANTED TO CHIME IN. BUT IN TERMS OF THIS TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION TO INITIATE, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WISE TO ENGAGE IN SOME SEMBLANCE OF AN EDUCATIONAL ROLLOUT.
OKAY. SO THAT WE CAN PROCESS A LARGE NUMBER AT FIRST, AS WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, A LARGE NUMBER OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS ARE GOING TO BE INTERESTED AND NEED TO. ONE, BE EDUCATED. TWO, HAVE SUPPORT IN APPLICATION, IN COMPLETING THE APPLICATION, AND THEN FOR OUR STAFF, TURNING THOSE AROUND.
RIGHT IF YOU WILL. WE REALLY WANT TO AGAIN. ONE, TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AT THE THREE MONTH AND TRY TO FIND A WAY TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS.
AND SO WE WANT TO DO OUR BEST TO MITIGATE THAT ISSUE.
BUT AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS AN INTENT TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THIS TURNED AROUND ON THE STAFF SIDE AHEAD OF THIS SUMMER. AND SO WE'VE KEPT THAT IN MIND IN BRINGING THIS TO YOU ON TIME AND HOPEFULLY BEING PREPARED ON THE STAFF SIDE TO ROLL IT OUT WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF ATTENTION AND RESPECT FOR TIMELINE.
PERFECT IF IT DOES. THAT, THERE WOULD BE A RUSH OF APPLICATIONS.
RIGHT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION IS THE INTENT TO HAVE STRONG EDUCATION, COMMUNICATION AND TRAINING FOR OPERATORS. THERE'S A, THE PLAN TO DEVELOP A GUIDEBOOK TO HELP SOMEBODY WITH THE STEPS OF HOW TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. ADDITIONALLY, QUARTERLY WORKSHOPS TO KEEP PEOPLE UP TO DATE ON ANY CHANGES IN CODE OR REQUIREMENTS FOR THEM.
AND ADDITIONALLY, THAT THEY WERE TO BE AVAILABLE AND TO HELP IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HELP THEM DO WHAT THEY NEED. ALSO TO HAVE TEMPLATES THAT PEOPLE CAN USE TO FILL IN THAT MAYBE HAVE NEVER FILLED IN A SAFETY PROCESS OR CROWD CONTROL. SO THERE ARE TEMPLATES TO BE AVAILABLE TO BE USED AS NEEDED.
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I'M MAKING THIS STATEMENT REALLY NOT TO TELL YOU ALL TO HURRY UP, BUT REALLY TO HELP MANAGE EXPECTATIONS. FOR THOSE APPLICANTS IN THIS PROCESS, THIS IS A NEW PROCESS.
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IT'S A NEW PROCESS WITH A BUNCH OF TIERS THAT NEED TO BE EVALUATED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN THE RIGHT TIER, THAT YOU'RE APPLYING FOR THE RIGHT KIND OF THING. SO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME. SO I'M SAYING THIS TO KIND OF HELP MANAGE PUBLIC'S EXPECTATION OF WHAT THIS PROCESS LOOKS LIKE IF IT GOES FORWARD. SO I'M REALLY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE A LOT FROM AN EDUCATION AND FROM THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO THE THREE MONTHS TO ME IS REASONABLE IN THAT SENSE.SO I'M JUST SAYING, I WOULD IMAGINE AS THIS GETS MORE REFINED, THAT WINDOW WILL CLOSE.
BUT INITIALLY IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET ALL OF THOSE INITIAL APPLICANTS THERE.
THEN THE LAST ONE. THE I THINK I HEARD IT, YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE SOME, THERE WILL BE SOME THINGS POSTED AND SO PEOPLE WILL KNOW KIND OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS ABOUT NOISE TO COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA'S POINT ABOUT THE OVERLY EXCESSIVE COMPLAINTS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS ACCURATE.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SOME KIND OF RESPONSIVE HOTLINE, SOME KIND OF ABILITY FOR PEOPLE THAT HAD ISSUES WITH THE VENUE TO GET THAT RECORDED. AND WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A QR CODE LISTED AT PLACES WHERE THEY COULD HAVE INFORMATION ON HOW TO, FAQS AND ALSO HOW TO DO IT. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT EQUATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA THERE. WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THERE ARE CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS WHO, FOR WHATEVER REASON, DON'T LIKE A PARTICULAR VENUE, SO THEY GO AFTER THEM.
AND PART OF THAT CONVERSATION WAS MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS WHERE PEOPLE WERE NOT WILLING TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME TO THEIR PROPERTY AND ACTUALLY EVALUATE THE NOISE THAT THOSE GET TREATED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. SO YES, WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
OKAY SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF REFINING THE DEFINITION OF RESTAURANT VIS-À-VIS ALCOHOL SERVING? WE'VE HAD SO MANY INSTANCES OF BUSINESSES OBTAINING COS AS A RESTAURANT AND THEN CLOSING THE KITCHEN AT 10:00 AND THEN BECOMING A BAR. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A CO FOR A BAR.
HAVE YOU ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE? YEAH. GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
WE ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. AS WELL AS ADDRESSING EVENT VENUES, WHICH IS ANOTHER CONCERN.
IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. YES. AND THEN IN RESPONSE TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH'S ISSUE ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE PERMIT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER AUTOMATIC RENEWALS OF PERMITS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE NO COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE BUSINESS AND THERE ARE NO CRIMINAL INCIDENTS THERE. THAT WOULD BOTH ALLOW BUSINESSES TO KNOW THAT IF THEY ABIDE BY THE REGULATIONS, THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO AMORTIZE THEIR INVESTMENT OVER LONGER THAN A TWO-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT PROVIDES AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO COMPLY AND POLICE THEIR BUSINESS.
YES, SIR. THAT WAS ONE OF THE INCENTIVES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE TASK FORCE IS TO DO EXACTLY THAT AS A REWARD FOR BEING A GOOD, GOOD NEIGHBOR. EXACTLY. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE TASK FORCE AND ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND FOR A QUICK TURNAROUND.
SO, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT STAFF IS SUPPOSED TO INCORPORATE LOOK AT THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL AS THE TASK FORCE AND COME BACK TO THIS BODY? YES, I THINK. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. WE WANT TO BRING THEM BACK IN MAYBE NEXT MONTH. IS THAT ENOUGH TIME? DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? ARE YOU ASKING FOR ACTION? I IT'S ONLY AN ACTION IF WE NEED TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE NOT READY TO MOVE IT FORWARD TODAY.
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I THINK THAT WE REALLY I'D LIKE TO BEFORE IT GOES TO UP THE LADDER.I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SOME FRAMEWORK GENERALLY OF SOME MORE SPECIFICS AND DO IT.
SO I THINK WE STILL HAVE A WORKING MEETING THAT WOULD BE INSTRUCTIVE FOR ME.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT A MONTH IS ENOUGH TIME.
THIS IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUSH YOU DOWN, BUT TO GIVE THESE FOLKS ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY SORT OF GET SOMETHING TO US THAT'S MEANINGFUL AND THAT WE CAN REVIEW. FAIR ENOUGH THEN WE CAN MOVE IT TO THAT, TO THE FOLLOWING AGENDA IN JUNE, I GUESS.
YEAH OKAY. OKAY. WELL, MR. CHAIR, I WILL MOVE THAT WE HOLD THIS ITEM AT COMMITTEE AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR A FURTHER REPORT FROM STAFF. SECOND. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE TO HOLD THIS FOR COMMITTEE AND COME BACK IN MAY.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THERE IT IS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS A BRIEFING MEMO THERE.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MEMO? YEAH. THERE SHE IS GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. LOVELY TO SEE YOU ALL.
MANYA SHORR, LIBRARY DIRECTOR. AS I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE FOR THIS MEETING IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE DECIDED TO MOVE THE PRESENTATION TO APRIL.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE TIMING OF THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT THE FRIENDS OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY SO GENEROUSLY COORDINATED ON OUR BEHALF, WE DID NOT HAVE THE RESULTS BACK IN TIME TO SYNTHESIZE THEM FOR OUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND GRACE AS WE TABULATE THOSE ALONGSIDE OTHER DATA POINTS SUCH AS COMMENTS WE ALL KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HEAR AT THE TOWN HALL THIS MORNING OR THIS WEEK EMAILS WE'VE RECEIVED, ANY CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENS AT THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGET CONVERSATION ON APRIL 1ST, AND THEN I'M PREPARED TO COME BACK IN APRIL WITH UPDATED RECOMMENDATIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. MR. ROTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR WORKING. I KNOW THIS IS A REAL HOT BUTTON ISSUE IN A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY IN THE CLOSURE COMMUNITIES. DO YOU.
CAN YOU GIVE ME A SENSE OF HOW MANY RESPONSES DID YOU ALL GET JUST GENERALLY FROM YOUR SURVEY? WAS IT? ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
IT WAS A LITTLE OVER 4,000 PEOPLE RESPONDED AND THE SURVEY WAS OPEN FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS.
AND IF RESIDENTS OR NEIGHBORHOODS WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS, THEIR CONCERNS, THEIR QUESTIONS. HOW'S THE BEST WAY TO DIRECT? SHOULD THEY? HOW'S THE BEST WAY FOR THEM TO CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS TO YOU ALL? I APPRECIATE THAT I. I HAVE RECEIVED HUNDREDS OF EMAILS, A LOT OF IT FROM THE SKYLINE COMMUNITY, OF COURSE, SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO EMAIL ME. WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTACT THEIR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND EVEN CITY LEADERSHIP.
AND THE, BUT THE SORT OF, THE UNDERLYING QUESTION REALLY IS.
THE DECISION IS STILL IN THE PROCESS, YOU'RE STILL EVALUATING OPPORTUNITIES, YOU'RE STILL ACCUMULATING FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS IN THE APRIL MEETING WILL BE A BRIEFING FOR US TO REALLY SORT OF SEE WHERE YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS.
IN THE PROCESS. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. I WILL BE COMING IN APRIL WITH UPDATED RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO A STREET NAMING, AND IT SAYS JEFFERSON, BUT IT SHOULD BE THE HOUSTON STREET BRIDGE, AND IT'S REALLY A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE IT TO THE PETTIS NORMAN BRIDGE.
ONE, HE'S A D3 RESIDENT. AND AS I REFLECT IN DISTRICT 3, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THERE THAT HAVE MADE SOME HISTORIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS CITY. PETTIS NORMAN BEING ONE OF THEM.
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IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. PETTIS NORMAN IS A FORMER DALLAS COWBOYS TIGHT END.THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS HE DID AS A PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYER.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, HE BECAME ONE OF THE FIRST BLACK EXECUTIVES IN DALLAS AND THEN, MORE IMPORTANTLY, SOMETHING NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. HE'S THE FOUNDER OF THE DALLAS TOGETHER FORUM, WHICH BROUGHT EXECUTIVES AND SMALL AND MINORITY WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES TOGETHER.
HE REALLY CREATED THE M/WBE PROGRAM BEFORE IT WAS REALLY A THING HERE IN DALLAS.
AND HE DID THAT TO BRING FOLKS TOGETHER TO REALLY START DOING BUSINESS TOGETHER.
AND THEN HE'S IN A MULTIPLE HALL OF FAME AWARDEE.
THE REASON WE'RE WANTING TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT HE'S DONE, EVERYTHING FROM GETTING THE COWBOYS TO ACTUALLY SLEEP IN THE SAME HOTEL ROOM AS A TEAM TO BRINGING SMALL AND LARGE BUSINESSES TOGETHER TO BEGIN DOING BUSINESSES.
HE'S A BRIDGE BUILDER. SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO.
NOW, AS I WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, MY, THE EDUCATIONAL PART OF IT, I'M KIND OF STILL LEARNING.
AND THEN SENDING IT TO THE MAYOR TO SEND IT TO A COMMITTEE.
AND THEN THAT COMMITTEE WOULD THEN MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL.
SO IT WASN'T ACTIVE. SO THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO REALLY NOT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO.
ONE, I WANTED TO PUT IT ON THIS AGENDA BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE WAS AWARE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PLANNING OUT OF THE REQUEST OF CHAD WEST, WHOSE DISTRICT IT WOULD BEGIN IN, AND THEN IT WOULD ACTUALLY END IN CHAIR MORENO'S DISTRICT.
BUT I WANTED TO GET THAT FIVE-SIGNATURE MEMO TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE COULD START THIS CONVERSATION.
AS IT STANDS NOW, WE ONLY NEED THREE SIGNATURES.
SO FOR THE PUBLIC PURPOSES, WHAT WE'LL DO IS MOVE IT FORWARD.
IT'LL WILL GO THROUGH CPC PROCESS SO THERE'LL BE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AT YOUR REQUEST AND GET THAT LEVEL OF FEEDBACK.
BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.
WHAT IS HAPPENING? AND WHY IT'S HAPPENING? I THOUGHT I COULD ACTUALLY PUSH IT THROUGH HERE WITH A FIVE-SIGNATURE MEMO, WHICH IS WHAT THE ATTEMPT WAS. BUT WE HAVE, IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THAT PACKET, THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THIS, EVERYTHING FROM MAYOR RAWLINGS TO RON KIRK TO TONY SHIDID.
AND IT'S A DIVERSE FORM A LINE OF SUPPORT THAT'S, THAT'S SUPPORTING THIS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS COMING. SO WE'LL MOVE IT FORWARD THROUGH THE DISCUSSIONS. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS.
I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A GREAT WORTHY NAME CHANGE.
I DO WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY THOUGH, AND MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR TO STAFF AS WE GET THIS PROCESS UNDERWAY, THAT THERE IS A COST CONSIDERATION THAT IS ARTICULATED VERY CLEARLY.
WE SUCCESSFULLY CHANGED THE NAME OF SOUTH LAMAR TO BOTHAM JEAN, AND I AM STILL WAITING FOR CITY MANAGEMENT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE ALL OF THE STREET NAMES CHANGED. I WOULD LOVE THE SAME SENSE OF URGENCY THERE THAT WE HAD FOR DIRK NOWITZKI WAY.
AND AS I KNOW, WE WILL HAVE FOR THIS NEW VIADUCT CHANGE AS WELL.
FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU FOR THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH I TOO WANT TO SAY THANKS, CHAIR, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE WHAT COULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN A BRIDGE BUILDER HAVING A BRIDGE NAMED FOR THEM? AND I MEAN, YOU CAN'T GET JUST CAUGHT UP IN THE DALLAS COWBOY PART OF IT.
[LAUGHTER]. THERE IS SO MUCH MORE WHEN SOMEONE TAKES THAT KIND OF MOMENTUM THAT THEY'VE GOT AND TURNS IT INTO CIVIL RIGHTS ADVOCACY AND MAKING THE CHANGES THAT MR. NORMAN MADE. SO I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE AWARENESS BEING BROUGHT TO THIS, TO OUR CITY AS A WHOLE.
I THINK WE ARE AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA. WE HAVE THE FORECAST THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FORECAST? AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU ALL HAVE OTHER ITEMS THAT NEED TO COME, PLEASE JUST SUBMIT THEM TO MYSELF AND MS. CADENA AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET THEM ON THE AGENDA. YES, MA'AM.
SO I'M SEEING IN APRIL, WE'VE GOT A MEMO ON THE SENIOR SERVICES STRATEGIC PLAN.
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AND I JUST WAS WONDERING, I MEAN, I THOUGHT WE WOULD MAYBE SEE SOMETHING MORE AT THIS POINT, LIKE SOME OUTCOMES FROM THAT PLAN OR PRESENTATION.DO WE CAN YOU JUST HELP ME WITH THE TIMING ON THAT? WHEN WE EXPECT TO SEE THE PLAN VERSUS A MEMO ABOUT THE PLAN? YEAH, I'LL. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I WILL ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO WITH THOR AND I CAN FOLLOW UP SEPARATELY IF THAT'S OKAY.
I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, TO YOUR POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE ASKED AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHICH AGENDA TO BRING IT ON, IS A LOT OF THOSE COMMITTEES THAT FALL UNDER THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THEY'RE DOING.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT IN TERMS OF PROVIDING SOME GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING IS ACTUALLY ALIGNING WITH SOME OF THE THINGS.
ONE OF THE ONES I COULD THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IS THE DISABILITIES COMMITTEE AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING TRYING TO ALIGN WITH WHERE WE'RE WANTING TO GO AS A COUNCIL AND AS A BODY FROM THERE. SO WE WILL BE PUTTING SOME OF THOSE, MANY OF THEM WILL FALL UNDER, I BELIEVE IT WAS JESSICA GALLESHAW DEPARTMENT.
SO SHE WILL BE BRINGING SOME OF THEM BACK TO REALLY GIVE US UPDATES ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING, HOW IT ALIGNS AND WHAT THEY'RE WHERE THEY'RE GOING FORWARD ALL RIGHT IT IS 10.
[LAUGHTER] YES, SIR I'M SORRY AS WE'VE JUST DISCUSSED, IS ON THE AGENDA FOR APRIL, BUT I SEE BEFORE THAT LISTED LIBRARY REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
AND MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT FIRST LISTED ITEM ASSUMING THAT THE LIBRARY DEPARTMENT GETS THE GO AHEAD TO CLOSE THE FOUR LIBRARIES? IN OTHER WORDS, IS THIS ABOUT REDEVELOPING THOSE FOUR LIBRARIES OR IS THIS SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY? I HAVE DIRECTOR SHORR HERE ADDRESSING THAT.
THIS IS THE WORK THAT CBRE HAS BEEN DOING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER TWO UPCOMING BOND PROJECTS IN THE PARK FOREST AND NORTH OAK CLIFF LIBRARIES COULD BE TURNED INTO A PROJECT THAT INCLUDES SOME HOUSING ELEMENT.
AND THERE WAS A PRESENTATION. I'M SO SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. IT HAS NO BEARING ON THE REGIONAL MODEL CONVERSATION.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. IT IS 10:45 AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.