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          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          [Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance
Special Presentations
Open Microphone Speakers]
WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          TODAY'S WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15TH, TAX DAY 20, 26 TIME'S 9:27 AM AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. 
          TODAY WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE AS OUR INVOCATION SPEAKER OF POLICE CHAPEL OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHO'S ALSO THE SENIOR MINISTER AT THE COMMUNITY CHURCH OF CHRIST, BROTHER JK HAMILTON. 
          AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO HIM FOR OUR INVOCATION. 
          AFTER THAT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG. 
          FATHER GOD IN HEAVEN, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DAY. 
          WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY JUST TO BREATHE IN AND OUT. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE WENT TO SLEEP LAST NIGHT, BUT DIDN'T WAKE UP, BUT YOU SAID YES, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THE CITY, BE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, ENDOW THEM WITH UNDERSTANDING AND WISDOM SO THAT THEIR DECISIONS WILL BEST BENEFIT THE CITY AND MAKE THIS CITY BETTER. 
          IN THE NAME OF JESUS WE PRAY, AMEN. 
          IF EVERYONE WAS ABLE, WOULD PLEASE RISE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU MAY BE SEATED. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS MORNING, SO LET ME MAKE SURE I GET THESE IN ORDER. 
          OKAY, WE'RE GONNA START WITH A SPECIAL RECOGNITION BY OUR MAYOR, PRO TEM MAYOR PROAM, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR SPECIAL RECOGNITION. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THIS PAST WEEK WE LOST A LEGEND IN DALLAS, ANITA MARTINEZ, THE FIRST LATINA COUNCIL MEMBER TO SERVE OUR GREAT CITY. 
          WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS IS PRIVILEGED TO HONOR THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF A CIVIC PIONEER DEDICATED TO PUBLIC SERVANT AND SHARED NUMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          ANITA NUNEZ MARTINEZ, WHO PASSED AWAY ON APRIL, 2026 AT THE AGE OF A HUNDRED. 
          AND AT, WHEREAS BORN ON DECEMBER 8TH, 1925, AND LITTLE MEXICO NEIGHBORHOOD, ANITA MARTINEZ LIVED A LIFE THAT REFLECTED A DEEP ENDURING COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE COMMUNITIES THAT SHAPED HER. 
          SHE MARRIED ALFRED MARTINEZ IN 1946, BEGINNING A LIFELONG PARTNERSHIP ROOTED IN FAMILY AND SERVICE. 
          AND WHEREAS ANITA MARTINEZ DEMONSTRATED AT AN EARLY PASSION FOR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AT JUST 14 YEARS OLD, SHE SUCCESSFULLY ADVOCATED FOR PAVING OF HER NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. 
          AND WHEREAS IN 1969, SHE MADE HISTORY AS DALLAS'S FIRST LATINA CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, WINNING 53% OF THE VOTE IN PLACE. 
          NINE, HER ELECTION MARKED A MILESTONE IN EXPANDING REPRESENTATION AND CIVIC PARTNERSHIP IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          AND WHEREAS ATA MARTINEZ LEADERSHIP EXTENDED BEYOND THE CITY GOVERNMENT, SHE WAS APPOINTED IN 1969 BY PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF THE NATIONAL CENTER OF VOLUNTARY ACTION AND EXPANDING HER INFLUENCE AND DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SERVICE TO A NATIONAL LEVEL. 
          AND WHEREAS IN 1969, SHE ALSO SERVED ON THE DALLAS COMMUNITY RELATIONS COMMISSION AND WAS A KEY VOICE IN ADVANCING ACCESS TO RESOURCES, PARTICULARLY IN WEST DALLAS RESIDENTS. 
          IN 1971, SHE HELPED ESTABLISH THE LOS BARRIOS COMMUNITY CLINIC. 
          AND WHEREAS ANITA MARTINEZ PLAYED A PIVOTAL ROLE IN SECURING FUNDING FOR, HAD, UM, HAITI RANKIN MOORE PARK THROUGH THE 1972 BOND PROGRAM, WHICH LED TO THE OPENING OF THE ANITA MARTINEZ RECREATION CENTER IN 1974. 
          AND IN 1975, SHE FOUNDED THE ANITA MARTINEZ BALLET, FLO RICO, TO PRESERVE THE CELEBRATION CULTURE HERITAGE THROUGH THE ARTS. 
          AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF DALLAS EXTENDS ITS DEEPEST CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND LOVED ONES ABOUT ANITA MARTINEZ, WHOSE LEGACY OF SERVICE ADVOCACY AND CULTURE LEADERSHIP WILL CONTINUE TO INSPIRE GENERATIONS NOW. 
          THEREFORE, IRA ERIC L. JOHNSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF DALLAS DUE HEREBY EXTEND A SPECIAL RECOGNITION ON APRIL 15TH, 2026. 
          GUYS, IF YOU'LL PLEASE JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCILWOMAN KADE, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ON THIS TOPIC? I MEAN, I KNOW I GREW UP GOING TO THE NEED OF 
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MARTIN THAT WAS MY RECREATION CENTER IN WEST DALLAS, AND, UH, LEARNED HOW TO MAKE A LOT OF CERAMICS AND, AND, AND KEPT OUTTA TROUBLE IN THE SUMMER AT THAT RECREATION CENTER, SUCH TOWERING FIGURE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, ANITA MARTINEZ IS A STORY OF COURAGE, SERVICE, AND DEEP LOVE FOR HER COMMUNITY. 
          SHE WAS A PROUD LATINA AND THE FIRST MEXICAN AMERICAN WOMAN ELECTED TO THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AT A TIME WHEN OPPORTUNITIES FOR WOMEN, ESPECIALLY LATINA WOMEN, WERE LIMITED. 
          SHE BROKE BARRIERS WITH DETERMINATION AND GRACE. 
          SHE DIDN'T JUST TAKE A SEAT AT THE TABLE. 
          SHE MADE SPACE FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW. 
          SHE WAS A CHAMPION FOR WEST DALLAS, AND SHE NEVER FORGOT WHERE SHE CAME FROM. 
          SHE FOUGHT FOR BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE PAVED STREETS, LIGHTING AND SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS, RESOURCES FOR FAMILIES WHO HAD LONG BEEN OVERLOOKED DIGNITY AND OPPORTUNITY FOR WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES, HER LEADERSHIP TO HELP TRANSFORM WEST DALLAS INTO A COMMUNITY THAT COULD BE SEEN, HEARD, AND INVESTED IN BEYOND CITY HALL. 
          SHE UPLIFTED CULTURE AND IDENTITY THROUGH FOUNDING THAT ANITA IN MARTINEZ BALLET BOOK POLITICO, SHE BELIEVED THAT CULTURE IS POWER AND THAT YOUNG PEOPLE SHOULD GROW UP PROUD OF WHO THEY ARE. 
          AND I'M GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF HER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I'LL NOW, UH, RECOGNIZE, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER FOR A A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          MAYOR. 
          YES. 
          I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON IT AS WELL. 
          GO FOR IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANNA SAY, UM, UH, ALSO A HUGE, UH, THANK YOU TO, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MARTINEZ, UH, AND HER FAMILY FOR, UH, THE CONTRIBUTIONS SHE MADE. 
          UH, I THINK THAT, UH, MANY OF US LOOK AT REPRESENTATION AND, UM, THIS IS WHY REPRESENTATION MATTERS. 
          THERE ARE PEOPLE BEFORE US THAT HAVE PAVED THE WAY AND SHOWN US THAT DESPITE, UM, UH, HISTORY, THAT THERE IS A PLACE FOR US AT THE TABLE. 
          AND, UM, I, I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MOMENTS THAT, UM, HER AND AND MANY OTHERS, UM, BEFORE US HAVE EXPRESSED HOW MUCH PRIDE THEY HAVE TO SEE HOW MUCH EVOLUTION WE'VE SEEN TO SEE THAT REPRESENTATION FOR LATINO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AROUND THIS HORSESHOE. 
          AND NOW WE HAVE THE SECOND TIME IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY TO HAVE AS MANY AS FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO, UH, REPRESENT IN THE LATINO CAUCUS. 
          AND I JUST, UH, WANT TO SAY, UM, A HUGE THANK YOU TO THAT PIONEER, UM, BECAUSE, UM, MS. MARTINEZ IS THE REASON, UH, THAT HAS PAVED THE WAY FOR US TO BE HERE, UM, TO REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITIES AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I MANAGER. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          AND GOOD MORNING. 
          UH, MR. MAYOR TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          LAST WEEK, THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE, DALLAS-FORT WORTH HELD ITS ANNUAL IMPACT AWARDS, THE IMPACT AWARDS SPOTLIGHT, OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENTS IN INNOVATION, SUSTAINABILITY, EQUITY AND COMMUNITY IMPACT IN REGARDS TO REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT. 
          IT IS A EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE AWARDS PROCESS. 
          TO BE NAMED AS A FINALIST IN A CATEGORY IS A SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT. 
          AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE SO EXCITED THIS MORNING TO ANNOUNCE AND SHARE THAT OUR VERY OWN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAD THREE INITIATIVES SELECTED AS FINALISTS. 
          WILL THE TEAM PLEASE COME OUT AT THIS TIME, DALLAS PARKING REFORM ADOPTED BY THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IN 20 MAY OF 2025, WAS SELECTED IN THE SHAPING SUCCESSFUL CITIES AND REGIONS CATEGORY. 
          THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN ADOPTED BY THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE OF 2025, WAS SELECTED IN THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITIES CATEGORY. 
          AND OUR INNOVATIVE ONE TO EIGHT IN INTERNATIONAL RESIDENT CODE WAS ADOPTED BY THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL, 2025, WAS SELECTED IN THE NEXT BIG IDEA CATEGORY WHERE IT ACTUALLY WON, WON IN ITS CATEGORY EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE. 
          DALLAS WAS THE FIRST CITY TO ADOPT THE ONE TO EIGHT IN INTERNATIONAL CO RESIDENTIAL CODE. 
          THESE ACHIEVEMENTS SPEAK VOLUMES ABOUT THE CALIBER OF THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          AND I'M SO INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THIS TEAM AND THE EFFORTS THAT THEY HAVE SPEARHEADED AND THE MANY ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR VERY OWN DIRECTOR, EMILY LOU. 
          THESE RECOGNITIONS ARE SIGNALS. 
          THEY SHOW THAT DALLAS IS NOT FOLLOWING TRENDS. 
          WE ARE SETTING THEM. 
          THEIR WORK REFLECTS A WILLINGNESS TO THINK DIFFERENTLY, CHALLENGE CONVENTION AND DELIVER SOLUTIONS. 
          PROJECTS LIKE THESE EXEMPLIFY THAT DALLAS IS NOT ONLY CONTINUING TO RAISE THE BAR, BUT WE ARE DEFINING 
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IT AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO RUN UP THE SCORE ON THE LEADERBOARD WHERE DALLAS BELONGS. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH TO THIS TEAM FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND YOUR COMMITMENT IN SERVING THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          CAN WE GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE? MR. MR. MR. MAYOR? YES. 
          I'D LIKE TO, UH, ADD SOME COMMENTS ON THIS ISSUE. 
          SURE. 
          AS OUR CITY MANAGER HAS MENTIONED, THE THREE CITY OF DALLAS PROJECTS THAT WERE SELECTED AS FINALISTS, UH, WE'RE HONORED TO, UH, BE CONSIDERED IN THE IMPACT AWARDS LAST WEEK. 
          I'M PROUD TO SHARE THAT ONE OF THOSE, UH, ENTERED IN THE NEXT BIG IDEA CATEGORY WAS OUR ONE TO EIGHT IN THE INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE INITIATIVE, AND IT RECEIVED THE AWARD FOR THE NEXT BIG IDEA. 
          DALLAS WAS THE FIRST CITY TO ADOPT THIS TRANSFORMATIVE ORDINANCE. 
          IT ALLOWS UP TO EIGHT DWELLING UNITS TO BE BUILT UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL CODE RATHER THAN REQUIRING THE MORE COMPLEX COMMERCIAL CODE REQUIREMENTS. 
          PREVIOUSLY, OUR CODE TREATED A FOURPLEX THE SAME AS A 200 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING A BARRIER THAT DISCOURAGED THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE HOUSING OUR CITY NEEDS AND RESIDENTS DESIRE. 
          THIS CHANGE IS A MAJOR STEP FORWARD TO ADDRESSING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING AND EXPANDING ATTAINABLE HOUSING OPTIONS ACROSS DALLAS. 
          I WANT TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO OUR PARTNERS AND ADVOCATES, INCLUDING THE HONORABLE PHILIP KINGSTON, A I A DALLAS, THE DALLAS HOUSING COALITION, THE DALLAS HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, AND THE CITY OF DALLAS, B-I-E-A-A BOARD, AND OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT STAFF. 
          MANY THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN THIS PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PLEASE, DIRECTOR LOU. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          AGAIN, MY NAME IS EMILY LEO, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER, MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS RECOGNITION. 
          ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM, I WANT TO SHARE OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR SUPPORT, VISION, AND LEADERSHIP AND FOR APPROVING AND ADOPTING ALL THREE OF THESE PROJECTS WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. 
          WE ARE ALSO GRATEFUL TO THE MANY AGENCIES, COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND STAKEHOLDERS WHO WORK WITH US EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. 
          I ESPECIALLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE STAFF WHO HELP LEAD THESE EFFORTS FOR THE ONE TO EIGHT IN RESIDENTIAL INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE, WILLIE FRANKLIN, DAVID SESSION, AND SAM ES FOR THE PARK REFORM. 
          DR. 
          ANDREA RIA, MICHAEL WADE, SARAH MAY, AND MICHAEL WEER FOR THE SOUTH DALLAS BEAR PARK PARK, LINDSEY JACKSON, AND PATRICK BLAZE. 
          AND TO THE TEAM MEMBER WHO WERE NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED YET, YOUR ROLE WILL BE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS WE MOVE INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE AT PLANNING DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE WORK VERY HARD EVERY DAY TO MAKE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT, BUT THESE PROJECT RISE ABOVE OUR DAILY WORK. 
          THEY ARE TRANSFORMATIVE AND BREAKTHROUGH EFFORTS THAT WILL HAVE A REAL AND LASTING IMPACT ON THE GROWTH AND SUCCESS OF OUR CITY. 
          THESE AWARD-WINNING PROJECT ARE ALREADY EARNING NATIONAL RECOGNITION. 
          THEY HAVE BEEN FEATURED IN BOTH LOCAL AND NATIONAL MEDIA. 
          OUR STAFF HAVE ALSO BEEN INVITED TO SPEAK AT MAJOR NATIONAL CONFERENCES, INCLUDING THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION, THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, AND THE COUNCIL OF VERTICAL URBANISM. 
          THESE HONORS HIGHLIGHT OUR WORK AND HELP ELEVATE DALLAS ON THE NATIONAL STAGE. 
          IN CLOSING, I WANT TO ECHO OUR CITY MANAGER'S WORDS. 
          WE'LL BUILD THE MOMENTUM. 
          LET'S KEEP RUNNING UP THE SCORE TO PUT DALLAS AT THE TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD WHERE WE BELONG. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          NO, IF YOU ALL WOULD COME ON DOWN, WE'LL DO A PHOTOGRAPH IF YOU GUYS CAN COME ON INSIDE THE RAILING. 
          WE'LL HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH NOW. 
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ALL RIGHT. 
          IS EVERYONE'S MAKING THEIR WAY BACK TO THEIR SEATS? WE HAVE ONE MORE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE BEFORE WE GET BACK TO SOME SPECIAL RECOGNITIONS BY MEMBERS, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER AWARD RECOGNITION THAT WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT THIS MORNING. 
          RECENTLY, THE DALLAS MAGAZINE, D MAGAZINE, DCEO 2026 COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AWARDS RECOGNIZED SOME OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL PROJECTS ACROSS OUR REGION. 
          IT IS A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE PROCESS, AND TO BE NAMED AMONG THE FINALISTS IS IN ITSELF A SIGNIFICANT ACHIEVEMENT. 
          AND THAT IS WHY IT'S ESPECIALLY EXCITING THIS MORNING TO SHARE THAT DALLAS PROJECTS STOOD OUT IN A MAJOR WAY OUT OF THE 119 FINALISTS. 
          33 RECOGNIZED PROJECTS ARE LOCATED RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          THAT LEVEL OF REPRESENTATION SPEAKS TO THE STRENGTH OF OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND THE MOMENTUM WE ARE SEEING ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          WE ARE PROUD TO SHARE THAT SEVEN OF THE AWARD WINNERS WERE SUPPORTED BY OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THROUGH INCENTIVES THAT WERE FACILITATED THROUGH THE OFFICE. 
          THAT IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF HOW STRATEGIC INVESTMENT AND STRONG PARTNERSHIPS CAN DELIVER MEANINGFUL RESULTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR LOCAL ECONOMY. 
          AND AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL OUT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. 
          THE GOLDMAN SACHS AT NORTH END WAS NAMED THE DEAL OF THE YEAR THE LOOP DALLAS WAS RECOGNIZED WITH THE COMMUNITY IMPACT AWARD. 
          UNIVERSITY HILLS WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE BEST NEW MIXED USE MY STATION, THE BEST NEW MULTIFAMILY IN THE URBAN CATEGORY, THE CABANA DESIGN DISTRICT, BEST REDEVELOPMENT, SCOTIA BANK, BEST OFFICE LEASE, AND THE ETTE BEST ANNOUNCED PROJECT. 
          THESE PROJECTS REFLECT THE INNOVATION, THE DIVERSITY, AND THE ECONOMIC GROWTH THAT CONTINUE TO SHAPE DALLAS. 
          THEY REPRESENT NOT JUST BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THEY REPRESENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR JOBS, FOR INVESTMENT, AND FOR STRONGER, MORE CONNECTED COMMUNITIES. 
          THIS RECOGNITION IS ALSO A REMINDER THAT DALLAS IS NOT JUST PARTICIPATING IN THE GROWTH OF OUR REGION. 
          WE ARE HELPING SHAPE AND LEAD IT. 
          I WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THIS TEAM WHO MADE ALL OF THESE OUTCOMES POSSIBLE. 
          ROBIN BENTLEY, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, KEVIN SPATH, HEATHER LIPKA, TAMARA LEE, SUE HOUNSELL, AND VA P. 
          YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR EXPERTISE AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS WORK IS REFLECTED THROUGH THESE RESULTS. 
          AND THE WORK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO BEHIND THE SCENES ENSURES THAT DALLAS CONTINUES TO COMPETE, ATTRACT INVESTMENT, AND DELIVER MEANINGFUL PROJECTS THAT BENEFIT OUR RESIDENTS. 
          AND I WANNA THANK OUR OVERALL PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          WE CANNOT DO THIS WORK VALUE. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE COLLABORATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE VISION AND THANK YOU FOR THE SHARED COMMITMENT IN HELPING US MOVE THIS TYPE OF WORK FORWARD. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO SAY TO ALL OF YOU THIS MORNING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND LET'S KEEP RUNNING UP THE SCORE. 
          DALLAS IS AT THE TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD WHERE IT BELONGS. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
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ALRIGHT, COME ON DOWN INSIDE THE RAILING FOR PHOTOGRAPH. 
          YOU KNOW THE DRILL. 
          YOU GUYS WORK HERE. 
          YOU KNOW HOW WE DO IT. 
          OKAY, NOW, DOWN HERE AGAIN. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DOWN. 
          YEP. 
          CITY MAJORS GOING DOWN. 
          YOU GUYS CAN STAY UP HERE. 
          I DIDN'T THINK SO. 
          I WAS LIKE, I DON'T THINK I HAD A BEER. 
          A LOT OF MONEY. 
          A LET'S GO WITH THAT. 
          LET'S GO WITH THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE GETTING TO SOME INTERESTING STUFF. 
          'CAUSE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, YOU COULDN'T HAVE CARTER AND KIMBALL SITTING IN THE SAME ROOM. 
          YOU COULDN'T HAVE LINCOLN AND MADISON SITTING IN THE SAME ROOM FOR LONG. 
          'CAUSE WE HAD THESE STRONG RIVALRIES. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS NOW, BUT I KNOW WE GOT SOME CHAMPIONS IN THE HOUSE, SOME STATE CHAMPIONS IN THE HOUSE. 
          SO, UH, SO I'M GONNA RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR FIRST FOR SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE TODAY, CARTER HIGH SCHOOL FOR WINNING THE UIL FOUR A DIVISION TWO STATE CHAMPIONS. 
          SO THIS SPECIAL RECORD, IT STATES, WHEREAS THE DAVID W. CARTER HIGH SCHOOL COWBOY BASKETBALL TEAM HAS DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL TALENT, DISCIPLINE AND DETERMINATION IN THEN SECURING THEIR VERY FIRST UIL FOUR A DIVISION STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. 
          AND WHEREAS THE COWBOYS ACHIEVE THAT, THAT GOAL BY A DECISIVE 67 TO 41 VICTORY OVER LAMAR HIGH SCHOOL AT THE UIL STATE TOURNAMENT HELD AT THE ALMA AL MADDON AL DID I SAY THAT WRONG? AMA ALA MADDON  IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, FURTHER SUBMITTING THEIR DOMINANCE ON THE COURT. 
          AND WHEREAS THE REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT MARKS THE FIRST STATE TITLE IN THE PROUD HISTORY OF DAVID W. CARTER HIGH SCHOOL, REFLECTING A LEGACY OF EXCELLENCE THAT CONTINUES TO INSPIRE FUTURE GENERATION. 
          AND WHEREAS DAVID W. CARTER HIGH SCHOOL STANDS AS HISTORIC LANDMARK IN SOUTHERN DALLAS REPRESENTING RESILIENCE, COMMUNITY PRIDE, AND A TRADITION OF ACADEMIC AND ATHLETIC SUCCESS. 
          JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT HERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING THEIR STAR TESTING. 
          SO A AND WHEREAS THE DEDICATION, ANCE, ANCE AND TEAMWORK DISPLAYED ON THE STUDENT ATHLETES, ALONG WITH UNWAVERING LEADERSHIP OF THE THEIR COACHES AND THE SUPPORT OF SCHOOL, STAFF, FAMILIES, AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE MADE THIS MONUMENTAL ACCOMPLISHMENT POSSIBLE. 
          AND NOW, THEREFORE, I LORI BLAIR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, DISTRICT EIGHT IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR DO HEREBY STAND, EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO W DAVID W. CARTER BASKETBALL TEAM. 
          THEIR COACH, COACH LOVE IS HERE TODAY. 
          COULD YOU PLEASE, UH, MAYOR, CAN HE PLEASE COME DOWN AND AND HAVE A WORD? ABSOLUTELY. 
          COME ON DOWN. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM CARTER HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS HAROLD JONES, ATHLETIC COORDINATOR OF CARTER HIGH SCHOOL, UH, ON BEHALF OF OUR PRINCIPAL, UM, MS. MITCHELL, AND ON BEHALF OF THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT AT CARTER HIGH SCHOOL, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND RECOGNITION. 
          OF COURSE, WE CAN, WE ALL, CAN WE ALL GET IN IT? NO EXCUSE IF WE WANTED TO. 
          NO, GO AHEAD. 
          YOU CAN COME ON DOWN. 
          COME INSIDE THE RAIL. 
          I'M 
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ALL RIGHT. 
          JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP CHAIRMAN, GRACIE, YOU'RE NEXT. 
          SO WAITING ON YOU TO RECOGNIZE THOSE KIMMEL KNIGHTS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I AM EXCITED, HONORED, ELATED TO, UH, FIRST OF ALL CONGRATULATE ALL OF YOU ALL, BUT ESPECIALLY KIMBALL, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE IN MY DISTRICT AND YOU ALL EARNED IT, UH, AND YOU EARNED IT WELL. 
          AND I'LL HAVE A LITTLE STATEMENT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, ARE THEY HERE, HUH? YEAH, THEY'RE RIGHT HERE. 
          THEN LET HAVE 'EM STAND UP. 
          STAND UP. 
          CAN Y'ALL COME ON. 
          STAND UP. 
          LET STAY STANDING WHILE YOU READ IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND BUT BEFORE I READ THIS RECOGNITION, MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU, YOU'VE STARTED THIS, THE DALLAS IS VERY MUCH A SPORTS TOWN, AND THE LEVEL OF ATHLETES AND THE LEVEL OF COACHING THAT'S BEING PRODUCED IN SOUTHERN DALLAS IS SOMETHING THAT IS, I'M, I'M HONORED THAT WE ARE DOING THIS, UH, BECAUSE WITH AS MUCH AS THEY HAVE, THEY ARE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH MORE. 
          AND I'M TALKING TO THE TERRORIST SPORTS TOO BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA PUSH IS THEM BEING ABLE TO HAVE A, A STATE-OF-THE-ART TRAINING FACILITY IN SOUTHERN DALLAS SO THAT THEY CAN DO MUCH, MUCH MORE. 
          WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE RECOVERY AND ALL OF THESE THINGS, YOU CAN'T GET THAT KIND OF STUFF UNLESS YOU GO OUT NORTH. 
          BUT YOU ALL ARE DOING THIS SOME AMAZING WORK, AMAZING COACHING, UH, AND, AND WINNING. 
          SO CONGRATULATIONS TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOW YOU'RE DOING IT, AND THE ATHLETES AND THE FUTURES THAT YOU ALL IN THE PAST THAT YOU ALL HAVE. 
          SO I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF Y'ALL, UH, FOR DOING THAT. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WANNA READ THIS SPECIAL RECOGNITION. 
          UH, WHEREAS JUSTIN F KIMBALL HIGH SCHOOL KNIGHTS BASKETBALL TEAM HAS DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL TALENT, DISCIPLINE, AND DETERMINATION IN SECURING THEIR SECOND, UH, CONSECUTIVE UIL FOUR EIGHT DIVISION ONE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. 
          AND WHEREAS THE KNIGHTS ACHIEVED A DECISIVE 62 TO 42 VICTORY OVER CRAWFORD HIGH SCHOOL AT THE U IOWA STATE CHAMPION, UH, STATE TOURNAMENT HELD AT THE, I ALMOST DID IT. 
          SHE AIN'T EVEN PAYING ATTENTION. 
          I WAS GONNA SAY THE OLA DO THE ALAMO DO. 
          THE ALAMO DOME IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS FURTHER CEMENTING THEIR DOMINANCE IN THE COURT. 
          AND WHEREAS THIS REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT MARKS THE NINTH STATE TITLE, UH, IN THE PROUD HISTORY OF JUSTIN F KIMBALL HIGH SCHOOL, REFLECTING A LEGACY OF EXCELLENCE THAT CONTINUES TO INSPIRE FUTURE GENERATIONS AND SOLIDIFIES THEIR STATUS AS A TEXAS BASKETBALL DYNASTY. 
          AND WHEREAS JUSTIN F KIMBALL HIGH SCHOOL STANDS AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, REPRESENTING RESILIENCE, COMMUNITY PRIDE, AND A TRADITION OF ACADEMIC AND ATHLETIC SUCCESS. 
          AND WHEREAS THE DEDICATION, PERSEVERANCE, AND TEAMWORK DISPLAYED BY THE STUDENT ATHLETES, ALONG WITH THE UNWAVERING LEADERSHIP OF THEIR COACHES AND THE SUPPORT OF THE SCHOOL STAFF, FAMILIES, AND THE COMMUNITY HAVE MADE THIS A MONUMENTAL ACCOMPLISHMENT OF POSSIBLE. 
          NOW THEREFORE, ISAIAH AND GRACIE, COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND ON BEHALF OF DALLAS CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY EXTEND THIS SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO JUSTIN F KIMBALL KNIGHT'S BASKETBALL TEAM FOR THEIR AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          AND BEFORE I GIVE COACH AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO HAVE SOME WORDS, I DID WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS AND STAFF ONE. 
          UH, DR. 
          DARWIN HUGHES IS THE NEW PRINCIPAL AT KIMBALL, AND WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO, WHERE IS HE AT? OH, THERE HE IS. 
          RIGHT THERE. 
          UH, HAD A CHANCE TO MEET AND, AND START BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIP. 
          SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WE BUILD AND FORMER EMPLOYEE DENITA LACKING. 
          QUINN IS THE CHAIR OF THE, I SAID, I TOLD HER I WAS GONNA MESS THIS UP, SITE-BASED DECISION MAKING ON CAMPUS. 
          AND HER SON ANDREW NASH JR. 
          IS THE SGA PRESIDENT AND THE YOUTH COMMISSION FOR, UH, THE CITY, FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, FOR DISTRICT THREE. 
          SO I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE 
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THEM AND ALL THAT THEY ARE DOING, AND THEY ARE PRODUCING LEADERS ON THE COURT AND OFF THE COURT. 
          SO SHOUT OUT TO KIMBALL, OUR LEADERSHIP COACH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN GRACIE. 
          MAYOR JOHNSON, UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US ALL HERE. 
          UH, I'M COACH NICKI SMITH, HEAD, BOYS BASKETBALL COACH HERE AT KIMBALL. 
          AND, UH, OUR PRINCIPAL, DR. 
          DARWIN HUGHES AND OUR ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, UH, MR. BRANDON HARRISON. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE ON BEHALF OF JUSTIN F KIMBALL. 
          WE GONNA BE BACK NEXT YEAR AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S HAVE A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE WHOLE TEAM AND COACH, COME ON DOWN. 
          YOU BROUGHT THE HARDWARE SO I'M COMING DOWN THERE SO I CAN HOLD IT. 
           ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DO YOU HAVE TO SAY THREE OF THEM? I THINK. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          YOU READY? EVERYBODY SEE IT? ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M GONNA RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL. 
          DO IT FOR TWO ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          TWO CHAMPIONS. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          MAYOR, I'M GLAD YOU ALREADY POINTED THAT OUT. 
          'CAUSE I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. 
          UM, AS MUCH PRIDE AS I HAVE IN ALL D DALLAS, ISD I'M A FORMER DALLAS ISD TEACHER, AND I LOVE SEEING ALL OF THESE CHAMPIONS HERE. 
          SUNNY SOUTH DALLAS HAD TO DO IT EVEN BIGGER. 
          AND WE GOT TWO CHAMPIONS HERE IN THE BUILDING. 
          I HAVE THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, THE LEGENDARY LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL LADY TIGER'S BASKETBALL TEAM. 
          IN ADDITION, WOO. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE GREAT JAMES MADISON HIGH SCHOOL TROJAN BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM, WE GOT 'EM SEPARATED BY HEALTHY DISTANCE. 
          I LIKE THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE DO. 
          BUT I WANT TO TELL Y'ALL THIS, IT'S, UH, IT, THERE'S A, A LEVEL OF PRIDE. 
          I HAVE, UH, SCENE BOTH OF THE LOGOS ON THIS T-SHIRT THAT YOU ALL ARE WEARING AND SHOWING THAT THAT UNITY, THAT SOUTH DALLAS PRIDE AND HONESTLY LOOKING IN THE CHAMBERS, THIS IS SOUTHERN DALLAS PRIDE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO SAY A HUGE CONGRATULATIONS. 
          I'M GONNA START WITH LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL, WHEREAS THE LEGENDARY LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL LADY TIGERS BASKETBALL TEAM HAS ONCE AGAIN DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL SKILL, DISCIPLINE, AND DETERMINATION IN SECURING THE CLASS FOUR A DIVISION TWO STATE CHAMPIONSHIP AT THE UIL STATE TOURNAMENT. 
          AND WHEREAS THE LADY 
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TIGERS ACHIEVED A COMMANDING 77 TO 49 VICTORY OVER FREDERICKSBURG AT THE ALAMO DOME IN SAN ANTONIO, CAPTURING THEIR SECOND CONSECUTIVE STATE TITLE AND FURTHER CEMENTING THEIR PLACE AMONG TEXAS'S ELITE PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS THIS REMARKABLE BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONSHIP ACCOMPLISHMENT STANDS AS A TESTAMENT TO THE TEAM'S RELENTLESS WORK ETHIC, UNI UNITY, AND UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE, BOTH ON AND OFF THE COURT. 
          AND WHEREAS LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL, A PROUD HISTORIC LANDMARK IN SOUTH DALLAS, CONTINUES TO PRODUCE OUTSTANDING STUDENT ATHLETES WHO CARRY FORWARD A LEGACY OF GREATNESS, LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNITY PRIDE. 
          AND WHEREAS THE SUCCESS OF THE LADY TIGERS REFLECTS THE DEDICATION AND PERSEVERANCE OF THE ATHLETES, AS WELL AS THE INVALUABLE GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT OF THEIR COACHES, THEIR TEACHERS, STAFF, FAMILIES, AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY. 
          AND WHEREAS THIS MONUMENTAL ACHIEVEMENT SERVES AS AN INSPIRATION TO FURTHER GENERATIONS PROVING THAT HARD WORK RESILIENCE AND BELIEF GREATNESS CAN BE ACHIEVED. 
          AND NOW THEREFORE, I, ADAM BASIL, DO A COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO THE LEGENDARY LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL LADY TIGERS BASKETBALL TEAM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONS. 
          I'LL TAKE THAT CORRECTION. 
          UM, I WILL ALSO SAY, UH, THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO, UH, BE RECOGNIZED. 
          UM, UH, THE MVP OF THE TEAM IS, UH, MISS NNE DALLAS, YOUR HAND. 
          WHERE, WHERE IS SHE? OH, SHE . 
          SHE, UH, I LOVE YOUR LAST NAME BY THE WAY. 
          OH, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, HEAD COACH ASHLEY GREER, WHO, INTERIM PRINCIPAL. 
          UM, CHANDRA HOOPER BARNETT, FORMER PRINCIPAL. 
          LANCE WILLIAMS, DISD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RAQUEL STEWART, AND DISD TRUSTEE ED TURNER. 
          I'M GONNA ASK Y'ALL TO JUST HOLD OFF ON THE PICTURE BECAUSE SINCE SUNNY SOUTH DALLAS DECIDED TO HAVE TWO CHAMPIONS, WE'RE GONNA DO IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND WE'RE GONNA GET ONE TOGETHER AS WELL AS ONE SEPARATE. 
          UH, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND READ, UM, OUR, UH, JAMES MADISON HIGH SCHOOL, UH, TROJAN TEAMS RES RESOLUTION. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT ALL RIGHT? YEAH. 
          HOW ABOUT WE HAVE THEM AT LEAST SIT DOWN OR SOMETHING SO WE CAN GET THEM THE, THE OTHER TEAMS? IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          WE CAN DO 'EM BOTH, BUT LET'S HAVE THEM SIT DOWN SO WE CAN RECOGNIZE THEM SEPARATELY TOO. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YEAH, RIGHT THERE. 
          ALRIGHT, NEXT UP. 
          LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE'VE GOT THE GREAT JAMES MADISON HIGH SCHOOL TROJAN BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM, WHEREAS THE GREAT JAMES MADISON HIGH SCHOOL TROJAN BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM HAS DEMONSTRATED EXCEPTIONAL SKILL, DISCIPLINE AND PERSEVERANCE THROUGHOUT THEIR SEASON. 
          AND WHEREAS THE TROJANS ACHIEVED A REMARKABLE VICTORY AT THE UIL STATE BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT DEFEATING ORANGE FIELD WITH A FINAL SCORE OF 70 TO 59 AT THE ALAMO DOME TO SECURE THE THREE A DIVISION ONE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. 
          AND WHEREAS THIS VICTORY MARKS THE SIXTH STATE TITLE IN PROGRAM HISTORY, FURTHER CEMENTING THE LEGACY OF EXCELLENCE AND TRADITION AT THE GREAT JAMES MADISON HIGH SCHOOL. 
          AND WHEREAS THIS MONUMENTAL ACHIEVEMENT REFLECTS NOT ONLY ATHLETIC EXCELLENCE, BUT ALSO THE DEDICATION, TEAMWORK, AND RESILIENCE OF THE STUDENT ATHLETES, COACHES AND STAFF. 
          AND WHEREAS THE GREAT JAMES MADISON HIGH SCHOOL STANDS AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK IN SOUTH DALLAS, CONTINUING TO INSPIRE GENERATIONS THROUGH ITS RICH LEGACY OF ACADEMIC AND ATHLETIC ACCOMPLISHMENT. 
          AND WHEREAS THIS CHAMPIONSHIP SERVES AS A SOURCE OF PRIDE AND INSPIRATION FOR THE ENTIRE DALLAS COMMUNITY, DEMONSTRATING WHAT CAN BE ACHIEVED THROUGH HARD WORK, UNITY AND DETERMINATION. 
          AND NOW, THEREFORE, I, ADAM BASIL DUA, COUNCIL MEMBER AND THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO THE GREAT JAMES MADISON HIGH SCHOOL TROJAN BOYS BASKETBALL TEAM. 
          WE 
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DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE WITH, UH, THE, THE MADISON FAMILY AS WELL. 
          THE MVP OF THIS TEAM WAS JOSIAH COBB, JOSIAH JO, JOSIAH COBB, CONGRATULATIONS, HEAD COACH GERALD SMITH, PRINCIPAL LONNIE RUSSELL, DISD, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RAQUEL STEWART. 
          AND AGAIN, DISD TRUSTEE, UH, ED TURNER AS WELL. 
          I WANT TO SAY TO BOTH MADISON AND LINCOLN, WE OFTEN HEAR OUR COMMUNITY BROUGHT IN THE NEWS FOR THINGS THAT ARE NEGATIVE, THINGS THAT WANT TO PERPETUATE A STIGMA OF OUR COMMUNITY, THAT IT ISN'T BOUND FOR EXCELLENCE. 
          I KNOW WHAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS AHEAD OF THEM BECAUSE OF THE, THE YOUTH, BECAUSE OF THE NEXT GENERATION THAT WE HAVE. 
          YOU ALL ARE THE REASON THAT CAN FIGHT AGAINST THE NARRATIVE, UH, WITH OUR OWN COMMUNITIES BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE THE CHAMPIONS. 
          Y'ALL ARE THE EXCELLENCE, UH, OF SOUTH DALLAS. 
          AND YOU MAKE US ALL VERY PROUD. 
          AND I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR Y'ALL'S WORK AND DEDICATION TO, TO BE THAT FOR US. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU ALL. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. 
          AND LET'S GET SOME PICTURES. 
          WE'LL START SINCE Y'ALL ARE ALREADY STANDING UP, LET'S START WITH, UH, MADISON. 
          DO ONE, UM, INDIVIDUAL. 
          THEN WE'RE GONNA ASK LINCOLN TO JOIN. 
          WE'RE GONNA DO ONE TOGETHER WITH LINCOLN AND MADISON, AND THEN I'M GONNA ASK MADISON TO STEP OFF AND ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE A PICTURE INDIVIDUALLY WITH, UH, LINCOLN NEXT. 
          OKAY. 
          HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          FOR PURPOSE. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT ANOTHER PART OF THIS BEAUTIFUL STORY IS COACH SMITH AND COACH SMITH ARE BROTHERS. 
          SO THIS IS DALLAS PRODUCING DALLAS, PRODUCING DALLAS PRODUCING LEADERS, PRODUCING CHAMPIONS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, OKAY, SO COME ON INSIDE THE RAIL. 
          OH, I THINK I, I'M SORRY, COACH, DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? OH, NO, I'M, I'M, I'M GOOD. 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I WAS JUST TOLD TO MAKE SURE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE LINCOLN TIGERS, UH, LADY TIGERS ARE THE MOST WINNING FEMALE ATHLETIC PROGRAM IN ALL OF DISD HISTORY. 
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ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS I HAD FOR THIS MORNING, SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY SECRETARY FOR OUR OPEN MICROPHONE. 
          SPEAKERS, MADAM SECRETARY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          AND GOOD MORNING. 
          THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR HIS FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS. 
          I WILL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. 
          BEAUTIFUL SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL IMP PERTINENT PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS. 
          WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON. 
          ALL SPEAKERS ARE IN PERSON, INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR YOU AT THE PODIUM. 
          WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, PLEASE STOP. 
          ALSO SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, 
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YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON. 
          ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, WILLIAM HOPKINS HAS CANCELED. 
          THEREFORE, JOHN FULLEN. 
          I AM JOHN FOLAND WEINER, MR. MAYOR BOTHAM. 
          JOHN WAS KILLED BY A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER THE NIGHT OF SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2018. 
          THE OFFICER WHO KILLED HIM, AMBER GEIGER, WAS CONVICTED OF MURDER ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2019 AND SENTENCED TO 10 YEARS IN PRISON. 
          IN JANUARY 12TH, 2021, AFTER A CAMPAIGN BY THE BOTHAM JOHN MEMORIAL COMMITTEE, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO CHANGE THE NAME OF LAMAR STREET SOUTH OF I 30 TO BOHAM JOHN BOULEVARD. 
          THE STREET SIGNS WENT UP ON MARCH 27TH, 2021. 
          YESTERDAY I DROVE SOUTH ON I 45 FROM DOWNTOWN EXIT 2 83 A IS FOUR LAMAR STREET. 
          WHEN YOU EXIT AND DRIVE SOUTH ON THE SERVICE ROAD, YOU SEE A SIGN THAT SAYS LAMAR STREET NEXT SIGNAL. 
          WHEN YOU GET TO THE SIGNAL, YOU'RE ON HAM JOHN BOULEVARD. 
          I DROVE FROM ILLINOIS AVENUE NORTH ON I 45 TOWARD DOWNTOWN. 
          THE SIGN ON THAT SIDE AT EXIT 32 83 A READS FAIR PARK, LAMAR STREET, PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE. 
          WHEN YOU EXIT IN THE STATE OF THE RIGHT TOWARD LAMAR, YOU SEE A SIGN READING LAMAR STREET NEXT SIGNAL. 
          BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE SIGNAL, YOU'RE AT BOHAM JOHN BOULEVARD. 
          RECENT NEWS REPORTS SAY THE CITY IS TRYING TO FIND THE MONEY TO CHANGE THESE EXIT SIGNS AFTER FIVE YEARS. 
          NOT SURPRISINGLY, THE CITY COUNCIL IS STILL IN COURT HOPING TO DENY ANY RESTITUTION TO BOTHAM'S FAMILY FROM THE DAY THE FAMILY FILED A WRONGFUL DEATH LAWSUIT IN 2018, THE CITY'S POSITION HAS BEEN TO BE DISMISSED FROM THE CASE. 
          AND YOU WERE DISMISSED WHEN A JURY AWARDED BOTHAM'S FAMILY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN 2024, THEY WERE LEFT TO COLLECT FROM A CONVICTED MURDERER IN A STATE PRISON. 
          THE CITY MAY WIN AGAIN IN THE LATEST LAWSUIT FILED THIS YEAR. 
          I HOPE NOT. 
          THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS A CHANCE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, NOT ONLY BY ON THE EXIT SIGNS LEADING TO BOTHAM JOHN BOULEVARD, BUT ON THE MORAL SIGNS LEADING TO SOME JUSTICE AT LAST FOR BOTHAM JOHN'S FAMILY, WHY NOT SETTLE THE CASE? WHY PRETEND THE CITY HAD NO PART IN THIS MURDER WHO HIRED AMBER GEIGER, WHO TRAINED HER, WHO PAID HER, WHO PROMOTED HER, WHO SENT HER OUT ON ARMED PATROL. 
          SHE WAS IN UNIFORM THAT NIGHT AND SHE USED HER SERVICE WEAPON TO MURDER BOTHAM JOHN DID OFFICER GEIGER ALSO MURDER THE CONSCIENCE OF DALLAS? I HOPE NOT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          FOR WHAT PURPOSE? UM, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPEAKER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, UH, I, I JUST, UH, WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING, BUT I'D LIKE TO, UH, OPEN IT TO THE CITY MANAGER. 
          IF YOU COULD JUST ACKNOWLEDGE, I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF SPEAKERS ON, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A SOLUTION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, UM, MET. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DUT, I DO WANT TO, UM, PUBLICLY COMMUNICATE THAT WE HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THIS ISSUE AND IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS WE HAVE, UM, IDENTIFIED A SOLUTION THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR US TO ADVANCE A FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT. 
          WE NEED TO BRING THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL SO WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD. 
          SO WE EXPECT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SUA TO HAVE THAT DONE WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS. 
          WE'LL BRING IT TO THE FIRST VOTING AGENDA DURING THE MONTH OF MAY. 
          THAT IS OUR ANTICIPATED TIMELINE, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CITY MANAGER FOR YOUR, UH, UH, RESPONSE TO THAT. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY AS WELL TO THE PUBLIC. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          NEXT SPEAKER, ISAIAH ALVAREZ. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          UM, MY NAME IS AZEL AND I'M A DALLAS RESIDENT FOR DISTRICT NINE. 
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UM, I WANNA START OFF WITH A SIMPLE IDEA. 
          I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE FACILITY. 
          UM, IF A HOUSE HAS A LEAK IN ONE ROOM, YOU DON'T REBUILD THE ENTIRE PLUMBING SYSTEM. 
          YOU FIX THE LEAK WHERE IT'S HAPPENING. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE DATA'S TELLING US ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY IN DALLAS. 
          YES, VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN OVERALL, BUT THAT DOESN'T REFLECT, REFLECT THE FULL REALITY. 
          AND I WANNA MENTION A REPORT FROM CPA AND THEY PUBLISHED THIS DATA BEFORE, UH, BUT JUST 34 NEIGHBORHOODS, ABOUT 3% OF THE CITY ACCOUNT FOR 20% OF ALL VIOLENT CRIME. 
          AND IN MO, MANY OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, VIOLENCE IS NOT IMPROVING. 
          IT IS JUST GETTING WORSE. 
          SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. 
          NOW I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE, THIS PROPOSED TRAINING FACILITY ACTUALLY DOES. 
          AT ITS CORE, THIS FACILITY IS DESIGNED TO IMPROVE HOW OFFICERS RESPOND AFTER SOMETHING HAS ALREADY GONE WRONG. 
          IT TRAINS FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE, HIGH RISK SCENARIOS, DRIVING IN TACTICAL SITUATIONS AND FIREARMS USE. 
          IN SIMPLE TERMS, IT MAKES THE SYSTEM BETTER AT REACTING AFTER HARM OCCURS, AND THAT MATTERS. 
          BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT IT DOES NOT DO. 
          IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE CONDITIONS THAT LEAD TO VIOLENCE, VIOLENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. 
          IT DOES NOT FIX A DARK STREET. 
          IT DOES NOT ACTIVATE A VACANT LOT. 
          IT DOES NOT SUPPORT A FAMILY IN CRISIS. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE REALLY DECIDING TODAY IS HOW MUCH DO WE WANT TO INVEST IN IMPROVING OUR RESPONSE TO HARM VERSUS PREVENTING THAT HARM FROM HAPPENING IN THE FIRST PLACE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE ARE ALREADY SEEING THE COST OF A REACTIVE SYSTEM. 
          THE CITY'S OWN FINANCIAL REPORT SHOWS WE ARE MILLION DOLLARS OVER BUDGET, LARGELY DRIVEN BY POLICE OVERTIME TIED TO P PATROL RESPONSE AND CASE WORK. 
          WE ARE PAYING MORE AND MORE TO RESPOND INSTEAD OF INVESTING IN PREVENTING HARM WHERE IT ALREADY HAPPENS. 
          SO WE ALREADY KNOW WHERE THE PREVENTION LOOKS. 
          LIKE THE CITY ACTION STRIKE TEAM WENT INTO HIGH RISK LOCATIONS AND MADE TARGETED CHANGES, LIGHTING CLEANUP AND CODE ENFORCEMENT AND VIOLENT CRIME DROPPED BY 48% IN THOSE AREAS. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GUESS WHAT WORKS WE ALREADY KNOW. 
          SO I WANT TO OFFER SOME SPECIFIC SOLUTIONS TIED TO THIS PROJECT. 
          FIRST IS THIS. 
          IF THIS FACILITY MOVES FORWARD, ALLOCATE AT LEAST 10% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT FUNDING TOWARD PLACE-BASED SAFETY INVESTMENTS IN THE HIGHEST VIOLENCE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SECOND, REQUIRE A NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY INVESTMENT PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALIGNS RESOURCES ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS USING YOUR PARTS AND REC, UM, THE HOUSING PARKS AND CODE COMPLIANCE AND EXPAND THE ACTION STRIKE TEAM. 
          AND THEN FOURTH, DEDICATE A PORTION OF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDING, ESPECIALLY TO LIGHTING AND STREETS TO YOUR DISTRICTS. 
          UM, AND EXPAND THE NON-POLICE RESPONSE SYSTEMS LIKE RIGHT CARE, WE HAVE THE DATA, WE HAVE THE TOOLS. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          LET'S DO THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JOHN PUTNAM. 
          UM, HI, MY NAME IS JOHN PUTNAM. 
          I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 10 AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE USE OF FUTURE BOND ELECTION TO COVER THE FUNDING GAP IN LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX AS WELL AS LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING STANDARDS IN GENERAL. 
          UM, ON APRIL 2ND, OUTSIDE OF HOUSE IN LAKE HIGHLANDS, MY AREA, MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, 10 WORKERS WERE KIDNAPPED BY ICE, TWO OF WHICH WERE US CITIZENS AND WERE LATER RELEASED WHEN ICE ADMITTED THAT THEY HAD KIDNAPPED, TAKEN THE WRONG PEOPLE. 
          UM, ICE TERRORIZES EVERY ASPECT OF EVERY PART OF DALLAS AND POLICE CHIEF CUOMO CAME TO THE CPOB IN JANUARY AND SAID THAT THERE WERE NO TRAINING STANDARDS OR REG GUIDELINES FOR OFFICERS WORKING, UM, WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES AS ICE TERRORIZES, OUR RESIDENTS OF DALLAS. 
          THEN WE'RE GONNA TURN AROUND AND POUR A BUNCH OF MONEY INTO A LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING FACILITY WHEN WE, OUR POLICE CHIEF HAS ADMITTED THAT THERE AREN'T STANDARDS FOR HOW WE PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORS FROM ICE TERROR. 
          THE PROJECT BEGAN AS 185 MILLION AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO INCLUDE 70 MILLION IN PRIVATE FUNDING, BUT ONLY, UH, 21.5 MILLION EVER MATERIALIZED. 
          SO DESPITE THAT $48.5 MILLION DISCREPANCY, THE PROJECT'S BALLOON TO 227 MILLION. 
          AND THIS INCREASE, THIS $42 MILLION INCREASE COMBINED WITH A 48 $5 MILLION SHORTFALL NOW LEAVES A GAP OF NEARLY $90 MILLION. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ADD ON TOP OF THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX FOR ANOTHER 148 TO $169 MILLION. 
          I WOULD LIKE FOR THE POLICE TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE TRAINING STANDARDS FOR 
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HOW WE PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS, WHICH IS WHAT POLICE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO BEFORE WE GO TO CITIZENS AND ASK TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON BONDS. 
          THAT'S ALSO GONNA CRIPPLE OUR, OUR BUDGET FOR YEARS TO COME. 
          WE'RE ALSO STRUGGLING TO KEEP OPEN NECESSARY, UM, PUBLIC SERVICES LIKE LIBRARIES, REC CENTER STAFFING, AND PROVIDING SHELTER FOR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS, WHICH SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY OF THE, OF THE CITY. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE NO UNHOUSED PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS BECAUSE YOUR JOB IS TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR RESIDENTS. 
          SO THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FIRST. 
          AND I'M ALSO JUST CONCERNED AT A AGGRESSIVE SEPTEMBER GROUNDBREAKING WHEN AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE PRIVATE FUNDING THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FOR THIS, THIS PROJECT. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE TRAIN, HOW WE TRAIN OUR OFFICERS. 
          SO BEFORE GOING TO DALLAS SITES WITH A BOND REQUEST THAT WILL WORK, WORSEN AN ALREADY STRUGGLING BUDGET OUTLOOK, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING, REDUCE THE PROJECT, PRIORITIZE NECESSARY PUBLIC SERVICES, AND FIND WAYS TO FUND THE PROJECT WITHOUT BURDENING DALLAS TAXPAYERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SEAN PEASE, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, CITY COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK TODAY. 
          UH, I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM EVERY POLICE ASSOCIATION THAT ARE HERE REPRESENTING THE 3,352 POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SERVING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. 
          UH, OUR FUNDRAISING TEAM THAT'S ALSO HELPING WITH ITS PROJECT, THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE AS WELL. 
          BUT THAT NUMBER'S SIGNIFICANT. 
          THE VOTERS IN THIS CITY SAID WE NEED MORE POLICE. 
          4,000 IS THE NUMBER WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. 
          WE DO NOT HAVE THE FACILITY TO CURRENTLY GET TO THAT NUMBER. 
          WE'RE LACKING 648 AT THIS POINT EVERY YEAR. 
          WE CAN PUT THROUGH ABOUT 300 THROUGH OUR CURRENT FACILITY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN ATTRITION RATE OF ABOUT 190. 
          SO THE SIMPLE MATH IN IN THAT IS IT'S STILL GOING TO TAKE US YEARS TO GET UP TO THE NUMBER THAT THE CITIZENS WANT US TO BE AT THIS FACILITY. 
          AND EVERY, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PEOPLE BACK HERE, WE ARE PROUD FOR THIS CITY. 
          WE ARE PROUD OF THIS DEPARTMENT. 
          THE CHIEF HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB ON, ON HIRING AND INCREASING THE NUMBERS. 
          UH, WE WANNA BE PROUD OF A WORLD CLASS FACILITY. 
          WE WANT OTHER AGENCIES TO WANT TO COME HERE AND USE THIS TRAINING FACILITY, USE THE TRACK, USE THE RANGE, USE THE TEACHING FACILITIES, UH, AND, AND GROW THE, GROW THE PRIDE EVEN MORE. 
          UH, I JUST CAME BACK FROM A, A CONFERENCE RECENTLY AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LIKE DOING IS TRADING PATCHES AND TRADING CHALLENGE COINS. 
          WHEN YOU HAVE THAT DALLAS PD PATCH, THERE'S SO MUCH PRIDE IN IT AND PEOPLE, PEOPLE ACTIVELY WANT TO COME UP AND THEY WANT TO GET THAT PATCH BECAUSE OF WHAT IT REPRESENTS. 
          SO WE ARE HERE SAYING WE, WE NEED THIS FACILITY. 
          UM, THE VOTERS REPEATEDLY OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE SAID WE WANT THIS FACILITY. 
          WE HAVE BEEN IN A TEMPORARY FACILITY FOR 35 YEARS. 
          MOST OF Y'ALL HAVE TOURED IT AND HAVE HAVE SEEN IT. 
          WE HAVE NO MORE ROOM THERE. 
          UM, PLEASE HELP US TO CONTINUE TO COME THROUGH TO COMPLETELY FUND THIS PROJECT. 
          I PROMISE YOU WE ARE DOING EVERY BIT OF OUR PART, UH, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND TO, TO, TO FIGHT HARD FOR THIS CITY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU SHERRY HOLMES. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          I COME TO YOU BE I COME BEFORE YOU TODAY AS A YIELDED VESSEL TO GOD, I COME TO DELIVER A MESSAGE THE STATE OF CITY HALL. 
          THE LORD IS CALLING THE CITY INTO ACCOUNT. 
          HE SAYS, I COME. 
          I AM GOD A GOD OF ORDER, RIGHTEOUSNESS AND JUSTICE. 
          I AM NOT BLIND, NOR AM I SILENT CONCERNING THE WORKS DONE IN SECRET. 
          I HAVE SEEN THE MISUSE OF AUTHORITY. 
          I HAVE SEEN CORRUPTION GO UNCHECKED. 
          I HAVE SEEN DECISIONS MADE THAT HAVE TRAMPLED IN ON INNOCENT LIVES AND SERVED PERSONAL INTEREST RATHER THAN TRUTH. 
          NOTHING HAS ESCAPED MY SIGHT, 
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SAYS THE LORD. 
          I RAISED MANY OF YOU IN INTO POSITIONS OF INFLUENCE WITH THE INTENTIONS THAT YOU WOULD BRING LIGHT INTO PLACES OF DARKNESS. 
          BUT INSTEAD, SOME HAVE USED THAT AUTHORITY IN WAYS THAT OPPOSE MY WILL. 
          BECAUSE OF THIS I AM MOVING SAYS GOD, I WILL DISRUPT WHAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED OUTSIDE OF MY ORDER. 
          I WILL DISMANTLE WHAT STANDS ON INJUSTICE. 
          I WILL UPROOT AND EXPOSE EVERY HIDDEN THING. 
          WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN DARKNESS SHALL BE BROUGHT TO LIGHT. 
          WHAT HAS BEEN COVERED WILL BE REVEALED, SAYS THE LIVING GOD. 
          THIS IS NOT ONLY A WARNING, BUT THIS IS MERCY SPEAKING. 
          IT IS AN INVITATION, RETURN TO RIGHTEOUSNESS, RETURN TO INTEGRITY, RETURN TO TRUTH AND HONORABLE LEADERSHIP. 
          FOR I THE LORD, DESIRE REPENTANCE BEFORE I RELEASE JUDGMENT. 
          BUT HEAR THIS CLEARLY, IF THERE IS NO TURNING, I WILL ACT. 
          I WILL REMOVE WHAT IS OUT OF ALIGNMENT AND I WILL ESTABLISH WHAT REFLECTS MY JUSTICE, MY ORDER, AND MY TRUTH. 
          SO LET THOSE WHO HAVE EARS TO HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT OF GOD IS SAYING IN THIS HOUR. 
          LET THIS BE THE MOMENT THE CITY CHOOSE TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT. 
          WHAT IS JUST AND WHAT IS HONORABLE. 
          HONORABLE BEFORE GOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS. 
          THE REMAINING SPEAKER WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CONCLUSION OF ITS CITY BUSINESS. 
          UH, MAYOR JOHNSON. 
          YES. 
          FOR WHAT PART COULD WE SUSPEND THE RULES SO THAT THIS ONE LAST SPEAKER COME BEFORE US THIS MORNING? ANY OBJECTION? NO OBJECTION. 
          SO ORDERED. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S HEAR THE REMAINING ONE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR SHEILA LUCAS. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. 
          GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MANAGER, MS. TOLBERT. 
          I AM SHEILA LUCAS, PRESIDENT FOR THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REAL ESTATE BROKERS, BETTER KNOWN AS NAB DALLAS. 
          ALTHOUGH THE LIVES OF AFRICAN AMERICANS WERE NOW CHANGING FOR THE GOOD AND A FEW VICTORIES HAVE BEEN WON, SCHOOLS WERE STILL SEGREGATED UNDER THE SEPARATED, BUT EQUAL THEORY AND EQUAL HOUSING HAS YET TO BECOME A REALITY. 
          THIS IS WHAT DROVE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO MET IN TAMPA, FLORIDA ON A SWELL NIGHT OF JULY 29TH, 1947, TO FORM THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REAL ESTATE BROKERS KNOWN AS NA. 
          WE HAVE 11 BLACK MEN AND ONE BLACK FEMALE WHO FORMED N AND OUR VERY OWN. 
          A MACEO SMITH WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS WHO NAME IS ON A FEDERAL BUILDING RIGHT BEHIND THIS BUILDING HERE IN DALLAS, TEXAS. 
          AND WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE HAD HIM AS OUR ONE OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS. 
          OUR NATIONAL GOAL IS TO BRING TOGETHER THE NATIONAL MINORITY PROFESSIONALS IN REAL ESTATE INDUSTRIES. 
          AS YOU KNOW, NA HAS 11 AFFILIATES, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRY NEED, HOUSING COUNSELING, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REAL ESTATE, APPRAISERS, NRA, SALES DIVISION, WOMEN COUNSEL OF NA YOUNG REALIST, DIVISION CON CONTRACTORS DIVISION, REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT, BROKERS, INSTITUTION, HOME OWNERSHIP EDUCATION COUNSELING, UNITED DEVELOPERS COUNSELING, AND AS WELL, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          IN 2023, OUR IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT, DR. 
          COURTNEY JOHNSON ROSE, ESTABLISHED THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLACK ACADEMY DEVELOPERS. 
          WE HAVE DEVELOPED OVER 350 BLACK DEVELOPERS IN 35 STATES. 
          ONCE AGAIN, 35 STATES, 350 BLACK DEVELOPERS. 
          WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND OF THOUSAND OF DOORS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED HERE JUST IN DALLAS ALONE. 
          WE HAVE SIX BLACK DEVELOPERS, AND I AM ONE MYSELF WORKING ON A 22,000 SQUARE FOOT CHURCH. 
          WE ARE DEVELOPING. 
          BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, $405,000 IS THE IMMEDIATE HOUSING PRICE. 
          AS WE KNOW MOST PEOPLE, 67% 
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MAKES 30 TO $50,000. 
          THAT IS NOT AFFORDABLE. 
          WE NEED AFFORDABLE LAND HERE IN DALLAS SO PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO PURCHASE A HOME. 
          WE NEED THE MONEY FROM THE CITY BOND. 
          WE NEED BCL, WE NEED PROGRAMS. THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, SHEILA LUCAS, PRESIDENT FOR THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REAL ESTATE BROKERS, DALLAS, TEXAS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL FOR WHAT PURPOSE? JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, NARAB. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND TO PUBLICLY. 
          OFTENTIMES I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO, TO GO TO A COUPLE OF BANQUETS AND THE THINGS THAT I TELL THEM. 
          AND I JUST WANNA PUBLICLY THANK THEM FOR HOW THEY CONTINUE TO REPRESENT NOT JUST DALLAS, BUT SOUTHERN DALLAS AND SOUTHERN DALLAS COUNTY. 
          I OFTEN TELL THEM IT'S THE REALTORS THAT CONTROL THE NARRATIVE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND TO LIVE LIKE AND EXPERIENCE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS. 
          AND THIS ORGANIZATION CONTINUES TO CARRY THAT MENTAL ALL THEIR MEMBERS, BUT NOT JUST IN DALLAS, BUT IN ALL OF THE OTHER STATES THAT THEY REPRESENT. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL FOR HOW YOU CONTINUE TO REPRESENT NOT JUST SOUTHERN DALLAS, BUT ALL OF THE UNDERSERVED AREAS OR THE, THE, THE, THE, I'M GONNA SAY THE OPPORTUNITIES, THE, THE AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY IN OTHER CITIES. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR HOW YOU, UH, DO AND CONTINUE TO LEAD. 
          THANK YOU CHAMBER JOHNSON. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          AND SHE WEARS A LOT OF HATS, BUT I, UH, DALLAS CHAPTER PRESIDENT OF AN NAACP IS ALSO HERE. 
          DR. 
          SHARON, DON'T YOU, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          NOT CITY MADAM SECRETARY. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS FOR THIS MEETING. 
          OKAY, THEN LET'S DO OUR VOTING AGENDA. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          AGENDA ITEM ONE. 
          [VOTING AGENDA]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE APRIL 1ST, 2026. 
          CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          I HEARD A MOTION IN SECONDARY DISCUSSION. 
          SEEING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. 
          NEXT ITEM AGENDA. 
          ITEM TWO IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. 
          THIS MORNING, YOU ONLY HAVE INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENTS, YOUR NOMINEES FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. 
          TAYLOR B JEFFERSON IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART TO THE JUDICIAL NOMINATING COMMISSION. 
          ANDREA M. EVANS BROWN IS BEING NOMINATED BY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIMM WILLIS TO THE MUNICIPAL LIBRARY BOARD. 
          JOSE CRUGER IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON AND TO THE PERMIT AND LICENSE APPEAL BOARD. 
          JOHNNY JEFFERSON IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BASEL. 
          DOA. 
          THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR. 
          LOOKING FOR A MOTION. 
          MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          I HEARD IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MOTION TO SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? SIGN NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. 
          CONGRATULATIONS MR. MAYOR. 
          YOUR BRIEFINGS CONTINUE. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          [BRIEFINGS]
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER NOW. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, START WITH BRIEFING ITEM NUMBER C UH, FOR OUR FIRST BRIEFING FOR THIS MORNING. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND PLEASE, PLEASE PROCEED DOWN SO WE CAN BEGIN ON TODAY'S FIRST BRIEFING ON ITEM C ON IS THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAINING FACILITIES UPDATE. 
          TODAY WE BRING FORWARD AN UPDATE ON ONE OF THIS COMMUNITY'S MOST IMPORTANT PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTMENTS, AND THAT IS THE NEW DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER. 
          THIS PROJECT REFLECTS THE WILL OF DALLAS'S VOTERS WHO MADE IT A PRIORITY IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMITMENT THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE FOR DELIVERING ON THAT PROMISE. 
          WE ARE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR THE DEDICATED WORK OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FACILITIES, AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT, THE CITIES MARSHAL'S OFFICE, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND THE FUNDRAISING TASK FORCE WHO ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER IN THIS UNIQUE PARTNERSHIP TO DELIVER WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS AT DALLAS. 
          THIS IMPORTANT, UH, PROJECT FOR THE CITY. 
          WE WANNA EXPRESS OUR SINCERE APPRECIATION TO THE, THE FUNDRAISERS AND ALL OF THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS WHOSE EFFORTS ARE HELPING TO ENSURE THAT THIS FACILITY TRULY REACHES ITS FULL POTENTIAL. 
          THEIR COMMITMENT, THEIR GENEROSITY PLAY AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN ADVANCING THIS PROJECT. 
          AND THIS WILL DEFINITELY SERVE OUR OFFICERS AND THE CITY FOR DECADES TO COME. 
          MOST IMPORTANTLY, TODAY, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO HAVE LONG AWAITED A FACILITY WORTHY OF THEIR SERVICE AND WORTHY OF THEIR MISSION. 
          AND SO I'M PLEASED TODAY THAT WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE AND HOW THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEV OGGI, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OVER OUR SUSTAINABILITY PORTFOLIO TO BEGIN TODAY'S PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
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UM, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JOHNSON, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU CITY MANAGER FOR THOSE OPENING REMARKS. 
          UM, THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S BRIEFING IS TO UPDATE YOU ON TWO MAJOR DALLAS POLICE TRAINING FACILITY PROJECTS AND OUTLINE THE KEY DECISIONS THAT LIE AHEAD. 
          AS YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE, WE WILL COVER THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER UPDATE AT UNT DALLAS, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING, COMPLEX FUNDING AND BUDGET DETAILS FOR BOTH PROJECTS. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA CLOSE WITH POLICY CONSIDERATIONS AND NEXT STEPS. 
          THESE FACILITIES ARE CRITICAL INVESTMENTS IN MODERN STATE-OF-THE-ART TRAINING THAT WILL SERVE OUR OFFICERS AND OUR COMMUNITY FOR DECADES TO COME. 
          WE SET THE STAGE ON WHY THIS, THESE PROJECTS MATTER WITH CHIEF HERRERA WALKING US THROUGH THE POLICE TRAINING JOURNEY ON THE NEXT SLIDE, BUT BE, AND AFTER THAT, JENNY, NICE WANDER, DIRECTOR OF THE BOND OFFICE AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND THE PROJECT TEAM MEMBERS WILL TAKE US THROUGH DETAILED UPDATES ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX. 
          SO, OVER TO YOU, CHIEF HERRERA. 
          THANK YOU DEV. 
          UM, I'M ASSISTANT CHIEF ISRAEL HERRERA OVER THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS BUREAU, UH, ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THIS COMPLEX, UH, WITH THIS TEAM UP HERE. 
          SO YOU'VE ALL SEEN THIS SLIDE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU OF THE JOURNEY THAT OUR OFFICERS TAKE FROM BEGINNING TO END, UH, ROUGHLY. 
          UH, THEY, THEY DO ABOUT, UM, 30 WEEKS OF CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY HELD AT REDBIRD TO BE HELD ON THE UNTD DALLAS CAMPUS. 
          UH, FROM THERE WE DO, UM, ANOTHER FIVE TO SEVEN WEEKS OF EMERGENCY VEHICLE OPERATIONS COURSE, WHICH IS THE PURSUIT TRAINING, HOW TO NAVIGATE A VEHICLE THROUGH A MAJOR METROPOLITAN AREA WITH THE DIFFERENT WEATHER CONDITIONS AND WHATNOT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, WE FINALIZE WITH, UH, TWO TO THREE WEEKS, UH, AT THE GUN RANGE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY AT MOUNTAIN CREEK, UH, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE, UH, IN ONE LOCATION AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPLEX. 
          AS ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS. UH, WE CURRENTLY ARE SQUEEZING 300 PEOPLE UNDER ONE ROOF. 
          I HAVE 268 PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT ACADEMY. 
          NEXT WEEK I'LL HAVE ANOTHER 55 JOINING THAT'S PUTTING US OVER 300. 
          WE'RE HAVING TO GET REALLY CREATIVE ON WHERE WE PUT OUR IN-SERVICE OFFICERS. 
          WE'RE HAVING TO DO IN-SERVICE TRAINING AT OTHER LOCATIONS, TRYING TO GET CREATIVE WITH SPACES, BEGGING, BORROWING, FIGURING OUT WHEREVER WE CAN HOLD CONTINUING EDUCATION COURSES FOR OUR CURRENT OFFICERS. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE LACK THE, UH, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR OFFICERS AS WE ONLY HAVE SPACE TO DO THE MANDATED TCO TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED EVERY TWO YEARS SO THAT OUR OFFICERS CAN CONTINUE WITH THEIR LICENSING. 
          SO AGAIN, I I JUST WANNA STRIVE, UH, JUST REALLY FOCUS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF HAVING THIS ACADEMY AND THEN JUST KIND OF RUNNING YOU ALL THROUGH WHAT WE DO WITH OUR CURRENT TRAINING FACILITY. 
          AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UM, JENNY AND NICE WONDER TO GO INTO THE NEXT PHASE. 
          SO THANK YOU, UM, JENNY, NICE WONDER DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF BOND AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT. 
          SO, UH, SO NOW WE TURN TO TURN TO THE FIRST MAJOR COMPONENT, UM, THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. 
          THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER AT U-N-T-D-D. 
          UH, THE SECTION WILL COVER THE PROJECT DELIVERY TEAM, THE SCHEDULE FACIL FACILITY LAYOUT, SCHEMATIC AND RENDERINGS, UM, OF THE COMPLETING CAMPUS. 
          UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, SO THIS IS OUR FIRST BRIEFING SINCE WE'VE HAD THE FULL PROJECT DELIVERY TEAM, UH, HAS BEEN ASSEMBLED AND IS WORKING TOGETHER. 
          UH, AS A REMINDER, THE, UM, THE TEAM INCLUDES THE CITY, UM, CITY OF DALLAS, THE, THE BOND OFFICE AND DPD LEADERSHIP AS THE OWNER. 
          THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE IS JACOBS. 
          UM, HKS IS THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD AND OR C MARS SWINERTON. 
          EACH PARTNER BRINGS SPECIALIZED EXPERTISE ON, UM, IN THEIR OWN COLLABORATION, HAS ACCELERATED OUR PROJECT TIMELINE ALREADY. 
          THE ASSEMBLE TEAM IS CO COORDINATING ACROSS DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, MANAGEMENT AND OWNERSHIP TO KEEP THE PROJECT ON TRACK. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THE LATC PROJECT IS NOW AHEAD OF SCHEDULE THANKS TO THE TEAM, UM, AND THE COLLABORATION EFFORTS. 
          ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTION WAS PLANNED TO BEGIN IN NOVEMBER, UH, WITH A NOVEMBER GROUNDBREAKING, AND WE HAVE ACCELERATED THAT TIMELINE. 
          THE TEAM WILL BRING A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE, UM, PACKAGE TO COUNCIL IN AUGUST. 
          UH, THIS WILL BE A SITE WORK PACKAGE WITH A GROUNDBREAKING TARGETED FOR SEPTEMBER A GMP TWO COVERING THE MAIN FACILITY CONSTRUCTION WILL FOLLOW IN OCTOBER. 
          UM, SOME KEY MILESTONES THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED IS, UH, OUR BUILDING LAYOUT'S BEEN FINALIZED. 
          WE HAVE MAJOR SYSTEMS COORDINATED OR SITE CIRCULATIONS BEEN DEFINED. 
          WE HAVE AN UPDATED CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED AND A THOROUGHFARE AMENDMENT 
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WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL LAST WEEK. 
          SO THE PROJECT IS READY TO, UH, TO PROCEED TO THE NEXT PHASE WITH CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THIS IS AN ISOMETRIC VIEW THAT SHOWS THE FULL, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER AND CAMPUS, UM, THE LAYOUT ON THE UNTD SITE. 
          SO THE CAMPUS IS, UM, ADJACENT TO THE GIM COLLEGIATE ACADEMY AND INCLUDES FOUR MAJOR COMPONENTS, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE. 
          THE BASIC ACADEMY IN-SERVICE ACADEMY, THE PHYSICAL TRAINING PAVILION, AND THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER. 
          THE SITE TOPOGRAPHY TRANSITIONS AS YOU MOVE FROM WEST TO EAST. 
          AND WE HAVE ABOUT 66 FEET OF FALL. 
          UM, AND THE NEXT FEW SLIDES I'M GONNA HAND OVER TO DAN ARROWWOOD, WHO IS OUR, UH, WITH HKS. 
          AND HE'S, UH, THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD AND HE'LL GO THROUGH THE, UM, THE SITE LAYOUTS AND RENDERINGS. 
          UH, GOOD MORNING. 
          I'M DAN ARROWWOOD. 
          I'M A ARCHITECT AND PRINCIPAL WITH HKS ARCHITECTS. 
          UH, JUST WANTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS, UH, LOOKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL FLOOR PLANS FOR THE BUILDINGS. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE BROKEN THE BUILDINGS UP INTO INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE SECURITY CONCERNS AND JUST THE TRAINING ASPECTS OF THE BASIC RECRUITS VERSUS THE IN-SERVICE, UH, OFFICERS THAT ARE COMING IN. 
          THIS IS THE BASIC ACADEMY THAT YOU SEE ON THE FLOOR PLAN HERE. 
          UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING 11 CLASSROOM SPACES HERE VERSUS, UH, CURRENTLY THERE ARE SEVEN IN THE EXISTING ACADEMY. 
          THESE ARE SET UP TO ULTIMATELY BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE 60 RECRUITS EACH, WHICH IS A LARGER GROUP THAN WE, UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT THE EXISTING ACADEMY. 
          UH, TWO PAIRS OF THE ROOMS ARE ACTUALLY SET UP SO THAT WE CAN EXPAND THOSE TO BE, UH, ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE GROUPS OF UP TO A HUNDRED. 
          SO WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE. 
          UH, THE GREEN SPACE THAT YOU SEE ON THE PLAN IS ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE FOR THE INSTRUCTORS AND FOR, UH, STAFF. 
          UH, WE HAVE BREAK ROOM SPACES TO, UH, SUPPORT LUNCH ACTIVITIES FOR THE RECRUITS THAT ARE THERE ALL DAY. 
          UH, THE BUILDING TO THE BOTTOM, UH, IS THE REALITY BASED TRAINING BUILDING WHERE WE HAVE SCENARIO TRAINING. 
          WE ALSO HAVE, UH, ACCESS FOR POLICE VEHICLES ACTUALLY INTO THE BUILDING AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. 
          NEXT SLIDE IS THE IN-SERVICE ACADEMY. 
          UH, SAME THING THERE. 
          THE BLUE SPACES ARE CLASSROOMS. WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING 10 CLASSROOMS HERE, UH, VERSUS FIVE AT THE EXISTING, UH, IN-SERVICE ACADEMY. 
          AGAIN, THESE ARE SET UP FOR, UM, GROUP SIZES OF 60, WHICH IS AN INCREASE. 
          AND, UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE A MULTIPURPOSE ROOM HERE THAT'LL SEAT UP TO A HUNDRED. 
          UH, GREEN IS ADMINISTRATIVE SPACE FOR STAFF. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, THE REALITY BASED TRAINING BUILDING HERE SERVES THE IN-SERVICE, UH, ACTIVITIES THAT THEY WILL HAVE, UH, IN A SEPARATE FACILITY, UH, RELATED TO THE, UH, IN-SERVICE ACADEMY. 
          NEXT SLIDE IS THE PHYSICAL TRAINING PAVILION. 
          AND THIS BUILDING, WE'VE COMBINED ALL OF THE DEFENSIVE TACTICS TRAINING, THE PHYSICAL TRAINING, CARDIO AND WEIGHTS. 
          UH, WE HAVE A SIX LANE INDOOR TRACK AND ALL OF THE, UM, LOCKERS AND SHOWERS FOR BOTH THE BASIC RECRUITS AND THE IN-SERVICE RECRUITS, OR IN-SERVICE, UH, OFFICERS ARE ACCOMMODATED HERE, UM, AS WELL AS LAUNDRY FACILITIES TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THE, UH, THE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY THAT'S OCCURRING IN THIS BUILDING. 
          THERE'S A SECONDARY ASPECT OF THIS BUILDING THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE UP TO 800 PEOPLE FOR GRADUATION ACTIVITIES, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS, UH, THOSE KIND OF ASSEMBLY ACTIVITIES. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER, WHICH WOULD BE IN COLLABORATION WITH THE UNT DALLAS CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROGRAM. 
          WE HAVE A, UH, A 75 SEAT TIERED LECTURE HALL HERE. 
          AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE ONE DEDICATED DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT CLASSROOM FOR 40 STUDENTS, AND THEN TWO UNT DALLAS CLASSROOMS. UH, AGAIN, EACH OF THOSE FOR 40 STUDENTS AS WELL. 
          THE GREEN SPACES THAT YOU SEE HERE ARE PRIMARILY, UH, UNT DALLAS ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE A, UH, A DPD OFFICE HERE AS WELL, AND ALL OF THE SUPPORT COMPONENTS THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS BUILDING. 
          NEXT SLIDE IS, UH, SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT WE PRODUCE FOR THE BUILDING. 
          UH, HERE. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ENTRY INTO THE, UH, PHYSICAL TRAINING PAVILION AND THE IN-SERVICE ACADEMY. 
          BASICALLY A PUBLIC ENTRY. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY HAD TO DEAL WITH IN THIS PROJECT IS PROVIDING ADEQUATE SECURITY AND SEPARATING THE PUBLIC FROM THE SECURE FUNCTIONS. 
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THE ENTIRE SITE WILL BE A SECURED, UH, FENCE PERIMETER, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UM, PUBLIC PARKING THAT'S ACCESSIBLE INTO THE BUILDING AS WELL. 
          ONE OF THE, UH, THE KEY ASPECTS OF THE PLANNING IS JUST THE, THE SITE ITSELF HAS ABOUT 60 PLUS FEET OF SLOPE ACROSS IT. 
          SO WE'RE STEPPING THE BUILDINGS DOWN, WHICH YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEE IN THE MODEL, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE FOR YOU TO GET UP AND SEE THAT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. 
          UH, A LOT OF THE, UH, ASPECTS OF THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPORTANT IN HOW WE'VE LINKED THE BUILDINGS TOGETHER, UH, TO MAINTAIN ACCESS CONTROL. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE IS A SECTION THROUGH THE BASIC ACADEMY, AND THIS BEGINS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THE BUILDING IS, IS BASICALLY BENCHED INTO THE SITE. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, GRADE COMES UP ABOVE FINISHED FLOOR. 
          UH, WE'RE WORKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE GRADE AND TO MAKE IT AS EFFECTIVE AS WE CAN IN BALANCING THE CUT AND FILL. 
          UM, THERE ARE EARTH PROTECTED WALLS FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT AND FROM JUST THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, MAKING IT EFFICIENT, UH, IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE MAXIMUM DAYLIGHT IN THE FACILITY. 
          WE HAVE CLEAR STORIES. 
          WE HAVE LIGHT WELLS THAT ARE ALLOWING LIGHT DOWN INTO THE, UH, THE CLASSROOM SPACES IN ADMINISTRATIVE SPACES. 
          AND THEN THESE, UH, ACTIVITIES ARE ALL SURROUNDED AROUND A, A COURTYARD SPACE, AN OUTDOOR TRAINING COURTYARD THAT, UH, PROVIDES IMMEDIATE ACCESS FOR THOSE KIND OF ACTIVITIES FOR BOTH THE BASIC ACADEMY AND THE IN-SERVICE ACADEMY. 
          EACH HAVE COURTYARD SPACES. 
          THOSE ARE GONNA BE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF THE, UH, THE PROJECT AS WELL. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE IS A VIEW INTO THAT OUTDOOR COURTYARD SPACE. 
          UH, THERE YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF ROOM FOR OUTDOOR TRAINING ACTIVITIES. 
          UH, THE, UH, THE TURF AREA, YOU SEE THERE WILL BE ARTIFICIAL TURFS ALL WEATHER SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THOSE ACTIVITIES IN ANY, UH, WEATHER CONDITIONS. 
          AND AGAIN, JUST ALSO SHARING VIEWS FROM THE INDOOR SPACES OUT INTO THAT, UH, OUTDOOR ACTIVITY SPACE. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE IS A VIEW OF THE ENTRY INTO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER. 
          JUST WANTED TO FEATURE THIS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING HERE, UH, REALLY FROM A SUSTAINABILITY STANDPOINT IS INCORPORATING MASS TIMBER STRUCTURAL FRAMING AT BOTH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE CENTER AND THE BASIC. 
          AND IN-SERVICE ACADEMIES, WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A, A SUSTAINABLE MEANS OF CONSTRUCTION. 
          IT'S AN EFFECTIVE MEANS OF CONSTRUCTION. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A WELLNESS FEATURE AS WELL. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN ULTIMATELY, UM, REPOPULATING THE SITE WITH, UH, EXISTING NATIVE LANDSCAPING IS GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT ASPECT AS WELL. 
          I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO JENNY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO NOW WE'RE GONNA TURN TO THE SECOND MAJOR INITIATIVE. 
          UM, WE LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE IS, UH, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE PUBLIC TRAINING SAFETY COMPLEX. 
          THE SECTIONS COVERS THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY. 
          UH, THE PROGRAM COMPONENTS NEEDED THE EVALUATION CRITERIA USED TO SCREEN THE SITES THE SITES CONSIDERED, AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION. 
          SO HERE, THE, SO THE GOAL OF THE STUDY WAS TO CONSOLIDATE THE TACTICAL COMPONENTS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING INTO A SINGLE SITE. 
          AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, AT THE LATC, AT THE UNTD, UH, THIS WILL HOUSE THAT WILL HOUSE THE ACADEMIC PORTION OF THE BASIC AND SERVICE TRAINING. 
          THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX WILL HOUSE THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE OPERATION COURSE, OR EVOC, THE SIMULATED TRAINING VILLAGE AND THE GUN RANGE. 
          THESE ARE COMPONENTS THAT REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT LAND AND SEPARATION FROM ACADEMIC USE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE COMPONENTS THAT MAKE UP THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING, UM, COMPLEX, UM, REQUIRE ABOUT 53 ACRES OF USABLE LAND AT A MINIMUM, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE, UH, FOCUSED OUR SEARCH ON CITY OWNED 60 ACRE SITES. 
          THESE COMPONENTS REPRESENT THE CURRENT LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING STANDARDS AND REFLECT INPUT FROM DPD ACADEMY STAFF AS PART OF THIS EFFORT. 
          THE KEY COMPONENTS LISTED ON THE SLIDE AND THE ACREAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS IS WHAT IS NEEDED FOR CURRENT DAY TRAINING NEEDS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, THE CRITERIA USED TO SCREEN AND SCORE THE POTENTIAL SITES INCLUDED ELEMENTS LISTED ON THE SLIDE. 
          THESE CRITERIA WERE SELECTED TO ENSURE THAT THE CHOSEN SITE WOULD BE OPERATIONALLY VIABLE, COST-EFFECTIVE, AND ACHIEVABLE WITH THE PROJECT TIMELINE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, THE SEARCH BEGAN WITH A LIST OF MORE THAN 70 CITY OWNED PROPERTIES, OVER 60 ACRES THAT WAS PROVIDED BY A REAL ESTATE DIVISION. 
          THE INITIAL LIST INCLUDED A WIDE, WIDE RANGE OF PROPERTIES, INCLUDING PARKS, A GOLF COURSE, THE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS. 
          SO AFTER APPLYING THE EVALUATION CRITERIA, THE LIST WAS NARROWED DOWN TO ABOUT 
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SIX POTENTIAL SITES, AND ULTIMATELY, ONLY ONE VIABLE SITE EMERGED FROM OUR ANALYSIS, AND THAT WAS THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF, UH, DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, THIS TABLE SUMMARIZES HOW EACH OF THE SIX, UM, CANDIDATE SITES WERE SCORED ACROSS THE EVALUATION CRITERIA. 
          SITES WERE EVALUATED ON ROADWAY ACCESS, UM, THE AREA OF THE SITE FLOODPLAIN RISK, LO, UH, THE LOCATION WITHIN CITY LIMITS, PROXIMITY TO UNTD, RESIDENTIAL PROXIMITY, TOPOGRAPHY, THE PRESENCE OF UTILITIES ZONING, AND THE TIME AVAIL OF AVAILABILITY FOR THE SITE. 
          THE SCORES, UM, SHOWED THAT WHILE SEVERAL SITES HAD STRENGTHS, ONLY A NUMBER, AND ULTIMATELY ONLY ONE FULLY MET THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, TO BE CONSIDERED A VIABLE OPTION. 
          SO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE DALLAS, UM, EXECUTIVE AIRPORT EMERGED AS THE MOST VIABLE CANDIDATE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, DALLAS. 
          SO THIS SITE, UM, AS I SAID, WAS DETERMINED TO BE THE MOST VIABLE BASED ON OUR EVALUATION CRITERIA. 
          KEY ADVANTAGES, INCLUDING THAT, UH, THAT THE ACCESS TO THE MAJOR ROADS, LOW FLOODPLAIN RISK, CLEAR LOCATION WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND FULLY AVAILABLE UTILITIES, AND THE SITE AVAILABILITY WITHIN OUR DESIGN TIMEFRAME. 
          THE SITE IS ALSO AN AVIATION COM. 
          IS, IS ALSO AVIATION COMPATIBLE, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION GIVEN THE LOCATION ON THE DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT. 
          AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS A TEST BID ONLY. 
          IT'S FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES AND WOULD BE REFINED AS WE GO THROUGH A PROGRAMMING PHASE. 
          UM, FOR THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, PATRICK IS GONNA SPEAK TO, UH, AVIATION RELATED CONSIDERATIONS. 
          PATRICK CORINO, DIRECTOR OF AVIATION. 
          UM, ON THIS SIDE, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE AVIATION CONSIDERATIONS WE'VE LOOKED AT. 
          UH, FIRST THIS REQUIRES COORDINATION WITH TXDOT AND THE FAA. 
          UM, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS AS WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER NON AERONAUTICAL PROPERTY OR NON RUNWAY DEPENDENT PROPERTY, UH, IT STILL REQUIRES A FORMER RELEASE FROM THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, WHICH WE DON'T EXPECT TO BE AN ISSUE. 
          UH, FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS ALSO REQUIRE US TO CHARGE FAIR MARKET VALUE RATES. 
          UM, WE HAVE THOSE RATES, THOSE ARE ESTABLISHED, UH, THOSE ARE LOOKED AT EVERY FEW YEARS AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, WE CURRENTLY, BASED ON THOSE MARKET VALUE RATES, UM, THAT GOES BACK INTO THE, UH, AVIATION FUNDS. 
          SO THESE LEASE FUNDS WOULD GO TOWARDS THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT, UH, AND WOULD BE USED FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT. 
          UM, WE CAN ALSO LOOK AT IDENTIFYING ENABLING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT AVIATION CAN, THE AVIATION FUND CAN CONTRIBUTE TO, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE DEVELOPER ON A DEVELOPMENT ON AIRPORT PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH, WITH THE TEAM ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO NOW WE'RE, UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA TURN TO THE COMBINED BUDGET AND FUNDING PICTURE FOR BOTH PROJECTS. 
          SO THIS SECTION COVERS THE, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER, UM, EXPENDITURE FORECAST OR REVISED PROGRAMMING ESTIMATE FOR BOTH PROJECTS, THE CURRENT FUNDRAISING STATUS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX, BUILD OUT STRATEGIES AND COSTS, AND THE OVERALL FUNDING NEEDED, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTFOLIO. 
          UH, AND TO START OFF, I'M GOING TO ASK, UH, LYNN MCBE TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE FUNDRAISING, UH, PORTION. 
          HELLO, LYNN MCNEE ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER TASK FORCE, ALONG WITH THE HONORABLE TENNELL ATKINS AS CHAIR OF THE TASK FORCE AND THE HONOR, UH, JENNIFER ALBACK GATES. 
          UM, ALONGSIDE, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE, WE HAVE, UM, A GOAL OF $70 MILLION. 
          AND THAT IS, UM, WE ARE WORKING AT 21 AND A HALF. 
          THAT IS PRIVATE COMMITTED FUNDS, AND I THINK THAT'S NOT NEW FOR EVERY, EVERYBODY HAS HAS HEARD THAT NUMBER. 
          WHAT'S NEW IS THAT WE'VE GOT 31.5 IN PENDING REQUESTS. 
          THAT MEANS THESE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED OR ARE MAKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE GRANT CYCLES OF THEIR RESPECTIVE FOUNDATIONS. 
          WE HAVE ANOTHER ESTIMATED 5 MILLION IN DISCUSSION AND HAVE IDENTIFIED A TARGET LIST OF 60 STRONG PROSPECTS. 
          STRONG PROSPECTS, MEANING THESE PEOPLE HAVE THE CAPACITY. 
          AND THIS IS ALSO AN ISSUE, AREA OF FOCUS FOR THEM. 
          WE'RE REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE BREAKING GROUND, HAVING THESE CONTRACTS SIGNED AND HAVING A TIMELINE THAT IS EXACT, IS GOING TO HELP US BE ABLE TO PROCURE THE REST OF THE FUNDS. 
          BUT WE'RE VERY EXCITED WITH THE PROGRESS AND HAPPY WITH SOME OF THE PENDING NEW FOUNDATION, UH, REQUESTS THAT WE BROUGHT FORWARD TODAY. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR, FOR SUPPORTING ME ON THE TASK FORCE. 
          ONE THING WE'RE GONNA SAY, WE EXCUSE YOU. 
          YOUR, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? ELLE ATKINS , 
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A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          NUMBER ONE, WE HAD WENT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAD WENT TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND THEY HAVE OVER WORN IN SAID, HEY, WE SUPPORT THIS TRAINING FACILITY. 
          I THINK WE, WE ED ABOUT IT, WE CAN RAISE THE MONEY. 
          BUT THE POINT IS, THANK YOU FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD TODAY, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED. 
          THANK YOU, UH, ALSO CITY MANAGER FOR YOUR OUTPUT AND THANK EVERYONE HERE SUPPORTING THIS ISSUE. 
          AND ALSO, MR. WILLIAMS, COUNCILMAN WILLIAMS. I WANNA SAY TO YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN YOUR BRIEFING THAT WE DO NEED THIS IN ORDER TO BE A GREAT CITY. 
          WE GOTTA BE A SAFE CITY. 
          WE ARE ON BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO RAISE THE MONEY. 
          WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, OUR JUNE, 2025 ESTIMATE THAT WAS PROVIDED, UH, WAS PROVIDED IN A POSTED BRIEFING. 
          UH, IT WAS CONCEPTUAL AND IT WAS BASED ON A PER SQUARE FOOT PRICING WITH OUR CMAR PRICING. 
          NOW, UM, THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED AT THE 50TH PERCENT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE HAVE REAL SITE DATA DEFINED BUILDING SYSTEMS, AND THIS PRELIMINARY PRICING, SO OUR UPDATED NUMBER IS 227 MILLION AND REFLECTS THE CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS WITH CONTINGENCIES SIZE TO, UM, TO THE RISK APPROPRIATE AT THIS DESIGN STAGE. 
          IMPORTANTLY, A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS HAVE WAS COMPLETED IN MAR ON MARCH 18TH AND HAVE BEEN ISSUED TO THE CMAR TO PROVIDE A REVISED ESTIMATE. 
          AS THE DESIGN IS FINALIZED AND CONT CONT CONTINGENCIES ARE RESOLVED, UH, WE EXPECT THE NUMBER TO DECREASE, UM, IN OUR OWN RISK. 
          REPRESENTATIVE JACOBS IS ACTIVELY, UM, EVALUATING CONTRACTOR PRICING AND IDENTIFY THE COST AND SAVINGS OPPORTUNITIES. 
          BUT ONE NOTE ON MARKET CONDITIONS, SO THAT CURRENT PRICING, UH, REFLEX RISK PREMIUMS, AND WHILE WE ANTICIPATE A REDUCTION, THE MAGNITUDE OF THAT, UM, REDUCTION MAY BE TEMPERED BY CURRENT MARKET UNCERTAINTIES. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THIS SLIDE BREAKS DOWN THE ESTIMATED COST FOR EACH OF THE COMPONENTS ON THE, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX, ALONG WITH POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES. 
          SO THE ESTIMATED PROGRAM TOTAL COST NOW IS 157 MILLION, UM, WITH A MARKET CONTINGENCY AND A POSSIBLE CANINE, UH, FACILITY, BRINGING THAT UP TO 169 MILLION, WE'VE IDENTIFIED 15 MILLION IN POTENTIAL ENABLING INFRASTRUCTURE CON CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE AVIATION DEPARTMENT AND ABOUT 6 MILLION IN POSSIBLE SPONSORSHIP FUNDING. 
          . 
          UM, THE GUN RANGE, THE CHUTE HOUSE, AND THE CANINE FACILITY ARE CURRENTLY HOUSED IN OTHER FACILITIES AND CAN BE PHASED IN LATER, PROVIDING FLEXIBILITY IN A BUILD OUT STRATEGY AND WE WOULD NEED TO CONSIDER, UM, AND IF NEEDED, WE COULD CONSIDER A MULTI-PHASE, UM, APPROACH. 
          ALL ESTIMATES INCLUDED HERE ARE ESCALATED TO 2029, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UM, COSTS WILL INCREASE IF THE CONSTRUCTION EXTENDS BEYOND THAT TIMEFRAME. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THIS SLIDE, UM, PRESENTS A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON OF PRIOR ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE ESTIMATES VERSUS OUR CURRENT UPDATED ESTIMATES FOR THE LATC. 
          PRIOR FUNDING PLAN HAD IDENTIFIED 185 MILLION IN TOTAL. 
          OUR CURRENT CMAR ESTIMATE, AGAIN AT THE 50 50% DESIGN DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT 227 MILLION, LEAVING A FUNDING GAP OF 82 MILLION FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX. 
          OUR PRIOR ROUGH ORDER MAGNITUDE WAS ABOUT 90 MILLION. 
          THAT WAS A BALLPARK ESTIMATE, UM, PROVIDED IN JUNE, UM, BASED ON REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING FACILITIES. 
          THE REVISED PROGRAM ESTIMATE IS NOW 169 MILLION REFLECTING CURRENT TRAINING STANDARDS, UM, UPDATED PROGRAMMING IN 2029 COSTES ESCALATIONS. 
          AGAIN, IT'S AN IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO SMAR AND A REVISED ESTIMATE IS ANTICIPATED SOON. 
          UH, AND STAFF EX ESTIMATES EXPECTS THE ESTIMATE TO, UM, TO BE TIGHTENED UP AS THE DESIGN IS FINALIZED. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND WITH THIS, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, CHAPEL JORDAN WITH JACOBS AS OUR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          THAT WORK? OKAY. 
          HI, I'M CHAPEL JORDAN. 
          I'M A PRINCIPAL WITH JACOBS FOR OUR BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE GROUP AND THE DESIGNATED, UH, PROJECT MANAGER TO WALK ALL OF US THROUGH THIS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. 
          SO I'M EXTREMELY EXCITED, YOU KNOW, A, TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND TO HAVE THE QUALITY OF TEAM THAT WE HAVE HERE AT THE TABLE. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF A BLESSING, BUT WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES AND ARE WORKING VERY HARD, UH, BEING IN WEEK SIX FOR ME HERE. 
          UH, UH, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE GOT PLENTY TO DO. 
          BUT WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU 
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RIGHT NOW IS A CASH FLOW MODEL, UH, BASED ON A, THE MASTER SCHEDULE AND ALSO BASED ON FUNDING AVAILABILITY. 
          SO EACH OF THE COLOR COORDINATED PIECES REPRESENT, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE TO THE FAR LEFT. 
          AND DARK BLUE REPRESENTS GRANT ONE FROM THE STATE. 
          THE BLUE REPRESENTS THE BOND FUNDS AS YOU GET TO THE GOLD. 
          THAT'S GRANT TWO, WHICH WE, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE IN PLACE. 
          UH, THE GOLD BARS, UH, ARE THE 70 MILLION, UH, FOR THE, UH, PRIVATE FUNDING. 
          AND THEN YOU'LL NOTICE, UH, THE THINGS THAT THE ITEMS IN PINK WERE, THE, THE BUDGET ORIGINAL THAT WE HAVE IS 145 MILLION OF WHICH 40 MILLION WAS UNFUNDED. 
          UH, JENNY JUST SHOWED THAT ON THE SCREEN WHERE YOU HAD A UNFUNDED AMOUNT. 
          SO THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, TRACKING. 
          UH, AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL TO GET YOU YOU TO THE 82 ROUGH MILLION IS THAT WE ARE ROUGHLY $40 MILLION OVER ON THE INITIAL CMAR BUDGET. 
          SO THE PURPOSE OF THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHERE YOU SEE THE 75 MILLION, IT TELLS YOU. 
          AND THAT KIND OF HELPS WITH WHEN WE NEED TO GET THE FUNDING. 
          IT SHOWS YOU, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND BAR AFTER CURRENT FUNDING, 75 MILLION AS YOU GET TO THE GOLD SUGGESTS, I BELIEVE IF MY EYES ARE WORKING RIGHT SOMEWHERE IN JULY OF 27, THE 96.5 MILLION WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE BANK WOULD RUN OUT. 
          IF YOU KEEP GOING, IF YOU GET THE PRIVATE FUNDS, THEN WE CAN KIND OF KEEP ROLLING ALONG. 
          THE INTENTION HERE, HOWEVER, IS TO, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND IT FROM THE, UM, FROM THE PRIVATE FUNDING, IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET AT LEAST THE 70 MILLION THROUGH THE, THROUGH AUGUST. 
          WE'LL HAVE THAT AROUND THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME, I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED. 
          UH, AND THEN THE REMAINING REMAINING FUNDING OBVIOUSLY IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON TODAY IN TERMS OF JACOBS PUTTING ALL OF OUR INFORMATION TOGETHER. 
          UH, AGAIN, THIS IS ALL HOT OFF THE PRESS. 
          WE HAVE CONDUCTED OUR FULL ON DESIGN REVIEWS OF THE 50% SET, OR EXCUSE ME, OF THE DD SET, WHICH IS A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE DD SET, UM, WITH ALL OF OUR DISCIPLINES. 
          AND THAT'S BEEN, THAT'S GONE THROUGH, WE HAD A FIRST BUDGET RECONCILIATION MEETING LAST FRIDAY WHERE WE WENT THROUGH WITH BOTH THE ESTIMATE PROVIDED BY HKS AND THEIR ESTIMATING SUPPORT AS WELL AS, UM, UH, THE CMAR SWINERTON ALL IN PERSON IN THE ROOM WALKING THROUGH EACH, UH, CONSTRUCTION CATEGORY. 
          UH, AND JACOBS RIGHT NOW I HAVE OUR ENTIRE ESTIMATING TEAM REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTS TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY ESTIMATE. 
          I SHOULD HAVE THAT IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. 
          SO WE ARE STILL DILIGENTLY WORKING TO BRING THESE NUMBERS DOWN AS BEST WE CAN. 
          UM, BUT THIS NUMBER IS HOT OFF THE PRESS AND WHAT WE'RE WORKING FROM NOW, TURN IT BACK OVER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, SO THIS NEXT SLIDE WE'RE, UH, CHIEF ARTIS AND I BELIEVE CHIEF CUOMO ARE GONNA COME AND ADDRESS COMMENTS. 
          CHIEF ARTIS, UH, CHIEF OF PUBLIC SAFETY HERE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          UH, ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS, UM, WE WANT THE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT IS A POSSIBLE 9 1 1 RELO RELOCATION SLASH EOC AND ALSO THE DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE PENSION PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS ALSO. 
          AND I'LL TURN OVER TO CHIEF OMO TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROPERTY ROOM AND THE EVIDENTIARY VEHICLE STORAGE. 
          SO CURRENTLY CHIEF CUOMO, CURRENTLY OUR PROPERTY ROOM, UM, NEEDS, UH, NEEDS WORK. 
          WE'RE OUTGROWING OUR PROPERTY ROOM AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, IT'S OVERFLOWING AND IT'S REALLY NOT IN A, UH, GOOD CONDITION. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UH, THERE'S A FREEWAY THAT'S GONNA BE BUILT, BUILT, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO IT, WHICH IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY CAUSE SOME ISSUES TOO. 
          SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE TALKED ABOUT OUR AUTO POUND. 
          OUR AUTO POUND IS SITUATED IN WEST DALLAS, WHICH IS REALLY NOT IDEAL OR PERFECT FOR A AUTO POUND TO BE THERE. 
          AND IT'S STOPPING GROWTH IN THAT AREA, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO NEED TO, UH, BE AWARE OF AND CONSIDER, UH, DOWN THE ROAD. 
          ALRIGHT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO JENNY AND DEF. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THIS SLIDE WAS ADDED IN RESPONSE TO A QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING ABOUT PUBLIC ART. 
          UM, BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, UH, A 1988 ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT 1.5% OF THE BOND VALUE OF FACILITY, OF A PROJECT BE ALLOCATED TO THE PUBLIC ART PROGRAM, UH, THAT, THAT ART ORDINANCE DOES PERMIT CERTAIN DEDUCTIONS FROM THE BOND VALUE, INCLUDING, 
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UH, DEMOLITION UTILITIES FURNITURE. 
          FOR THE LETC, WE IDENTIFIED ABOUT 11.4 MILLION IN ELIGIBLE DEDUCTIONS LEAVING A NET, UH, BOND VALUE OF ABOUT 38.6 MILLION. 
          APPLYING THAT 1.5% GETS US TO ABOUT 579, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          NOW, THE SOS ALSO ALLOWS FOR UP TO 20% OF THAT FIGURE, UM, TO BE USED FOR THE PUBLIC ART ADMINISTRATION COST IN TERMS OF EXCLUDING A PROJECT. 
          SO THERE ARE TWO PATHS TO DO THAT THE CITY MANAGER MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, OR THE CITY COUNCIL MAY EXCLUDE THE PROJECT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. 
          SO THE LATC PUBLIC ART BUDGET WAS APPROPRIATED IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE, AND SOME ADMINISTRATION COSTS HAVE BEEN ALREADY EXPENDED. 
          EXCUSE ME, SHOULD THE PROJECT BE EXEMPTED, MOST OF THE ALLOCATED FUNDS WOULD BE RETURNED BACK TO THE PROJECT, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF THE AMOUNTS ALREADY SPENT. 
          NEXT SLIDE THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO DOV. 
          THANK YOU, JENNY. 
          UM, SO NOW WE TURN TO THREE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS, UM, WHERE WE'RE SEEKING COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE TODAY. 
          AND THESE DECISIONS WILL BE, WILL DETERMINE HOW WE PROCEED WITH BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS. 
          SO FIRST CONSIDERATION IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX. 
          UM, WE'RE REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL, UM, TO APPROVE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UM, DALLAS EXECUTIVE SITE. 
          UM, SECOND, AS YOU'VE HEARD, UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME, SOME PERSPECTIVE WITH RELATE WITH REGARD TO A BOND ELECTION. 
          UM, WE'RE PROPOSING TO COME BACK IN JUNE WITH MORE INFORMATION. 
          WE PRESENTED THE INFORMATION RELATED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX AS WELL AS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER. 
          UM, BUT CHIEF ARTISTS AND CHIEF OMO SHARED SOME OTHER, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS THAT WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IN THAT BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND THIRD, WE'RE SEEKING YOUR THOUGHTS ON, UM, THE, UM, POTENTIAL FOR A PUBLIC ART EXEMPTION. 
          UM, IF THAT'S A WAY TO PERHAPS, UM, IMPROVE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO APPLY TO THESE PROJECTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, LOOKING AHEAD TO NEXT STEPS FOR BOTH PROJECTS. 
          SO WE PLAN TO INCORPORATE YOUR FEEDBACK TO TODAY. 
          UM, OF COURSE WE'LL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE OUR MONTHLY UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. 
          UM, THE JUNE BRIEFING, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, TO DISCUSS A POTENTIAL FOR A 20, UM, 26 BOND ELECTION IN NOVEMBER. 
          UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, IF THAT'S A PATH FORWARD, WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT TO FULL CITY COUNCIL BY AUGUST 12TH. 
          UM, AGAIN, WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING YOU AN EARLY CONSTRUCTION PACKAGE ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER IN AUGUST AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, UM, FOR A GROUNDBREAKING IN SEPTEMBER. 
          WE'LL BE, UM, LOOKING TO, UM, DEVELOP A SPECIFIC DATE FOR THAT GROUNDBREAKING AND WE'LL SHARE THAT TO YOU. 
          AND THEN, UM, AS YOU SAW FROM CHAPEL'S CASH MODEL, WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE BRINGING OUR SECOND PACKAGE FOR DESIGN, OUR GENER OUR GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE PACKAGE TO IN OCTOBER. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO NOW, UM, I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE NOTICED WE'VE GOT SOME BOARDS AROUND HERE AS WELL AS A MODEL THAT WE'D LIKE TO INVITE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT. 
          IN ADDITION, UM, YOU CAN SCAN THE QR CODES, UM, TO SORT OF START TO EXPERIENCE THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING FACILITY FOR YOURSELF. 
          AND SO WE'D LIKE TO GIVE COUNSEL A FEW MINUTES TO DO THAT AND THEN, UH, RETURN, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS THAT, THAT THIS BODY HAS ABOUT THESE PROJECTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, MR. MAYOR, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO INVITE COUNSEL TO UTILIZE THE QR CODE THAT, UH, DEV JUST MENTIONED. 
          AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WALK DOWN, UM, AND LOOK AT THE ACTUAL MODEL AS WELL AS THE DISPLAY BOARDS THAT WE HAVE BEHIND YOU, UH, WE WERE GONNA JUST GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS WHEN WE COME BACK. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL TAKE A, UH, WE'LL STAND AT EASE JUST, UH, FOR A FEW MINUTES SO EVERYONE CAN ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY LOOK AT THE MODEL AND THE POSTERS AND, UM, LET'S, LET'S CALL IT 10 MINUTES GUYS. 
          10 MINUTES. 
          ALRIGHT, MEMBERS, WE CAN GET BACK TO OUR SEATS. 
          THE BROADCAST, I'M TOLD THIS IS GOOD TO GO. 
          SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR YOU. 
          TELL ME IF WE'RE, IF YOU THINK WE'RE READY TO START TAKING QUESTIONS FOR THE PANEL NOW? YES, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY GO AND, AND LOOK AT THE MODEL, ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF, JUST ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE SEEN. 
          BUT WE DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN YOUR 
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QUESTIONS, UM, FROM THE BRIEFING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PRESENTED. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CHAD WEST, CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR, AND REALLY GREAT JOB AND BEAUTIFUL MODEL. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. 
          UM, OKAY, SO I'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS COME IN FROM DIFFERENT FOLKS AND CONSTITUENTS AND ALSO MEDIA. 
          AND I JUST TO CLEAR A COUPLE THINGS UP FOR ME, AND I THINK FOR THEM, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO FACILITIES HERE. 
          WE'VE GOT THE, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER, WHICH IS THE UNT FACILITY. 
          THEN YOU'VE GOT THE SORT OF THE, UM, THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT'S PROJECTED FOR EXECUTIVE AIRPORTS. 
          SO TWO DIFFERENT FACILITIES. 
          WE ORIGINALLY TOOK OUT THE BOND AND WENT TO THE VOTERS IN 24 FOR THE FIRST, FOR THE FIRST ONE, THE ONE AT UNT. 
          UH, THE VOTERS SUPPORTED A $50 MILLION BOND FOR THAT. 
          UM, WHICH I THINK WE ALL COLLECTIVELY KNEW WASN'T GONNA BE ENOUGH, BUT IT WAS GONNA GET IT STARTED. 
          UM, AND THEN SINCE THEN, THE FUNDRAISING TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GO OUT AND HIT THE STREETS AND GET FUNDRAISING FOR THAT FACILITY. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? SO FAR? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. 
          THE, THERE IS A, BASED ON CONS, THIS IS WHAT I'M LEARNING FROM YOUR BRIEFING. 
          BASED ON THE MARKET AND CONSTRUCTION PRICES GOING UP, THERE IS A FUNDRAISING OR A FUNDING GAP ON THE TRAINING FACILITY AT UNT, WHICH ARE THE CLASSROOMS. UM, AND WE'VE NEVER STARTED RAISING FOR THE FACILITY PROPOSED FOR EXECUTIVE AIRPORT, CORRECT? YES, THAT IS ALSO CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THEN THAT BRINGS ME TO THE, THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT'S REQUESTED IS ON YOUR SLIDE 30, WHICH IS THE 238 TO $250 MILLION TO FILL THE GAP IN THE PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE UNT FACILITY, AND THEN COMPLETELY FUND PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX. 
          YES. 
          THE, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M GLAD I  TOOK ME SOME READING TO GET THROUGH ALL THAT, BUT I, I THINK I GOT IT AND Y ALL DID PRESENT IT CLEARLY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UH, I HEARD A COUPLE FOLKS MENTION THAT SOME OF THESE PORTIONS OF LIKE THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX COULD BE PHASED IN IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE FULL AMOUNT REQUESTED. 
          UM, WHAT KIND OF PHASING OPTIONS COULD WE, I MEAN, IS IT LIKE A FULL MENU OR, OR HOW WOULD YOU ENVISION THAT LOOKING AT JENNY NOW? SO, SO WHAT WE'VE, THE PRIORITY THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO TO GET, UM, DPD OUT OF THEIR CURRENT LEASE. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE EVOC, UM, SIMULATED TRAINING VILLAGE, I BELIEVE THAT WAS, THOSE WERE THE TWO MAIN ONES THAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, PRIORITIZING IN TERMS OF PHASING THE GUN RANGE, UM, IT, IT'S, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE MOVED IN ORDER TO, UM, TO GET OUT OF OUR LEASE. 
          AND SO THAT ONE WAS, WAS, UM, COULD BE PHASED AT A, A LATER DATE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ONE MORE TIME, EVOC IS, IS A PRIORITY GUN RANGE, COULD BE LATER. 
          WHAT WAS THE OTHER PRIORITY? THE SIMULATED TRAINING VILLAGE. 
          UM, THAT'S ALSO BEING DONE AT THE CURRENT LEASE SITE. 
          SO WE WOULD BE SAVING MONEY ON A LEASE BY BUILDING THIS FACILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHEN YOU MENTION ON THAT, I'M LOOKING NOW ON YOUR SLIDE, UM, 27, WHEN YOU MENTION ENABLING INFRASTRUCTURE, DOES THAT JUST MEAN THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND THAT 15 MILLION WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO FUND? OR DO WE NEED TO, IS THAT 15 MILLION IN ADDITION? UM, NO COUNCIL MEMBER THAT 15 MILLION IS INCLUDED IN THE PRICING. 
          WHAT WE'RE, UM, I THINK, UM, PATRICK MENTIONED THAT, UM, AT ANY DEVELOPMENT AT DALLAS EXECUTIVE MM-HMM . 
          UM, WHAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO IS HAVE AVIATION FUND THE ENABLING INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THESE, AGAIN, ARE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATES, SO WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT AT 15 MILLION RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE SITE LAYOUT COMPLETE, THE FINAL SITE LAYOUT. 
          UM, WHAT WE HAVE IS A TEST FIT. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATED NUMBERS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          BUT THAT, THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT A RANGE, UM, IN OUR, UM, IN OUR, UM, SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE FUNDING GAP, THE FULL FUNDING GAP FOR THE SITE. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT'S THE RISK IF WE, I'M JUST GONNA PUT THE, THE, I'M GONNA CALL IT PHASE TWO, BUT IT'S A PUBLIC PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX. 
          WE, LET'S PUT THAT TO THE SIDE FOR A MINUTE. 
          WHAT'S THE RISK IF WE AREN'T ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE FUNDING FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER? LIKE IS THERE A RISK OF LOSING PRIVATE DONATIONS THERE? THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT 
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WE, WHAT YOU, UM, AND CHAPEL CAN HELP, HELP RESPOND TO THIS, BUT WE HAVE, UM, ESTIMATED THE FLOW OF FUNDING, UM, ACROSS THE PROJECT WITH A, A, A GOAL OF, UM, FULL OCCUPANCY, UM, IN, UM, JUNE OF 2028. 
          AND SO, UM, WE, YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE, THE, UM, THE CASH FLOW SLIDE OR THE EXPENDITURE SLIDE, UM, WHERE WE START TO, TO FALL SHORT, THAT IS THE, THE PINK, UM, ON THE CASH FLOW SLIDE AND CHAPEL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING. 
          SURE. 
          UM, BASED ON THAT CASH FLOW MODEL, WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IS TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S JUST PRETEND THAT WE ONLY HAD 96.5 MILLION. 
          THAT'S ALL WE GOT. 
          AND SO WE HAVE A, WE DO HAVE SOME STUDY ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          IF YOU GET UP TO THE 1 45, YOU GET AN EXTRA BUILDING, YOU, YOU GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN GO. 
          I HAVE NOT SAT DOWN WITH POLICE IN TERMS OF THAT AND SAID, WELL, WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT BEFORE THE OTHER? UM, SO WE WOULD STILL HAVE SOME WORK TO DO SHOULD THAT COME TO PASS, BUT THERE'S ALSO CONSTRUCTION METHODOLOGIES THAT YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO KEEP A STANDARD STREAM ALL THE WAY THROUGH. 
          SO YOU DON'T WANNA DO ONE BUILDING ON ONE SIDE AND ANOTHER ON ANOTHER. 
          IT JUST GETS A LITTLE MESSY WHEN YOU'RE COMING BACK. 
          UM, MY ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT IS IF WE START DOING GMP TWO, GMP THREE, GMP FOUR, IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO LOCK IN THE COST NUMBERS. 
          SO TRYING TO CATCH SAVINGS, YOU MAY END UP PAYING MORE LATER BECAUSE YOU'RE DELAYING, YOU KNOW, AN EXTRA 50 OR $60 MILLION WORTH OF WORK. 
          SO WHAT I'M WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS DETERMINING WHETHER THERE'S A WASH WITH THAT. 
          IF YOU CAN FIND IT GREAT OR WHETHER, YOU KNOW, BY PUSHING IT OUT, IT DOESN'T HIT YOU TOO MUCH. 
          BUT YES, WE'VE DONE SOME STUDIES ON HOW WE COULD WORK THROUGH THAT, BUT IT'S A, IT'S JUST GONNA EXTEND THE SCHEDULE OUT FARTHER. 
          WELL, AND I'M, I'M VERY, I I'VE NEVER HAD A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT PERSONALLY THAT'S EVER COME IN EARLY, EVER IN MY, MY HISTORY. 
          SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE GROUNDBREAKING EARLY IN 26TH OF AUGUST IS, IS, UH, I'M VERY IMPRESSED. 
          A LITTLE SKEPTICAL, BUT VERY IMPRESSED. 
          UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE FUNDRAISING TEAM, IF SOMEBODY COULD JOIN US FOR A MINUTE. 
          UM, AND I GUESS THE, TO FRAME IT THIS WAY, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT FOR US TO, AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT PHASE ONE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? UM, I KNOW YOU HAVE DONATIONS IN THE PIPELINE AND YOU HAVE DONORS PROBABLY WATCHING THIS TODAY. 
          UH, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT THAT WE WE DO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE FIRST FACILITY ON TIME AND THAT WE, UM, SHOW CONFIDENCE TO, TO THE DONORS THAT WE CAN GET THIS DONE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND, AND, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          I MEAN, DONORS HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE CAME OUTTA THE GATE WITH THE 21.5 MILLION, AND SO WE ALL KNOW THAT NUMBER. 
          THOSE DONORS COMMITTED PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO, AND THEY COMMITTED AT A TIME WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS MOVING FORWARD. 
          SO WHEN THINGS GET STALLED AND THINGS DON'T MOVE FORWARD, YOU CAN IMAGINE, I MEAN, THESE DONORS ARE ALSO BEING ASKED BY OTHER, YOU KNOW, BIG CAPITAL PROJECTS IN OUR CITY. 
          AND SO IF WE CAN'T SHOW READINESS TO GO, WE DON'T HAVE CONTRACTS SIGNED, WE'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD, THEN THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WILL GIVE THEIR CHARITABLE RESOURCES TOO. 
          WE'RE VERY LUCKY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT, BUT WE'VE GOT TO SHOW FORWARD PROGRESS. 
          I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE SIGNED THE CONTRACTS, THAT WE'VE SPED THINGS UP. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT THINGS IN THE QUEUE, WE HAVE LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, ANY MORE STALLING, IT JUST MAKES PEOPLE PULL BACK. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO, TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF, THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          WE NEED TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN, UM, AND I KNOW WE CAN DO THIS PROJECT. 
          SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? THAT IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE SHOW PROGRESS, THAT WE UNITE AROUND THIS, THAT WE HIGHLIGHT THAT THE CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED AND THAT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THE COMMITTED, BUT THAT WE'VE GOT FUNDS THAT ARE PENDING RIGHT NOW, PROBABLY WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING AND ARE GONNA REACT TO THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, SO I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE, THE VOTERS HAVE TOLD US THAT PHASE ONE AT LEAST IS AS A PRIORITY TO THEM. 
          TO ME IT'S A NO-BRAINER AND WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT. 
          UM, THE SECOND PHASE IS A BIGGER QUESTION FOR ME, AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO THE WHOLE CITY BUDGET. 
          SO I'M GONNA ASK JACK IRELAND TO PLEASE COME UP HERE AND ANSWER A COUPLE QUESTIONS. 
          HAD DEPUTY MAYOR PROTON BROUGHT THIS UP TO ME A FEW MINUTES AGO OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, AND I HOPE SHE TALKS ON THAT AS WELL, LIKE, THE IMPORTANCE OF A, OF HAVING A HOLISTIC VIEW OF OUR ENTIRE BUDGET IF WE'RE BEING ASKED TO TAKE OUT ANOTHER BOND, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT OUR BUDGET FIVE TO 10 YEARS FROM NOW? UM, OUR PENSION OBLIGATIONS ON TOP OF THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE FULL COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE A, AN UNDERSTANDING BEFORE WE JUST SAY, YEAH, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND DO ANOTHER BOND ELECTION. 
          , YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE RIGHT NOW AND, UM, AND LET THE VOTERS KNOW WE, WE UNDERSTAND THE 
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CONCERNS. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, JACK ARLAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          UM, SO A, AS YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW, UH, THE PROPERTY TAX FUNDS, BOTH THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN A PORTION FUNDS THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. 
          AND SO WE DO AN EVALUATION TO LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY OF THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, WHICH IS, WOULD BE THE PORTION OF THE TAX RATE THAT IS USED TO PAY THE DEBT ON ANY BONDS. 
          AND SO THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERED, IF YOU WANT ME TO GO INTO, TO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, UH, PROPERTY VALUE AND WHAT THE FUTURE GROWTH IS GOING TO BE, WHAT IS THE TAX RATE? ARE WE GOING TO LOWER THE TAX RATE ON THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE OR INCREASE IT OR KEEP IT THE SAME, WHAT OUR EXISTING DEBT IS? AND SO ON OUR EXISTING DEBT, WE HAVE $2.5 BILLION OF PRINCIPLE OF, UH, TAX SUPPORTED DEBT. 
          AND THEN LOOKING AT OUR FUTURE DEBT, UM, HOW WE STRUCTURE THAT DEBT, WHAT THE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO BE, WHAT DEBT HAS ALREADY BEEN AUTHORIZED BY VOTERS, WHAT OTHER PROJECTS WE WANT TO DO. 
          AND SO WE'VE TAKEN THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AND, UH, WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO, WE, WE BRIEFED YOUR COMMITTEE IN OCTOBER ON A LOT OF THOSE TOPICS, AND WE CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE THAT IN OUR MAY BUDGET BRIEFING OR OUR JUNE BUDGET BRIEFING, IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRES TO SEE A, A MORE HOLISTIC, UH, LAYOUT OF THE DEBT. 
          YES. 
          UH, JUST TO JACK AND THE CITY MANAGER, UM, AND THE MAYOR, IF WILLING, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT CITY FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING, UM, TO, TO SEE THE HOLISTIC VIEW AND HOW THIS ADDITIONAL BOND REQUEST WOULD IMPACT THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF I MAY, MAY, MR. MAYOR, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU TO OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, MR. IRELAND, FOR, UM, HIS RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO DO TODAY, UH, TO YOUR POINT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST WAS TO GET COUNCIL'S, UH, FEEDBACK, UM, ON IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, AS WE CONTINUE REFINING AND LOOKING AT THIS PROJECT IN THE, IN ITS TOTALITY, NOT JUST WITH THE ONE PIECE VERSUS THE OTHER, BUT IF YOU WANTED US TO COME BACK AND BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU HOW THIS OVERALL PROJECT DELIVERING BOTH FACILITIES, UM, UH, FITS INTO OUR OVERALL, UM, KIND OF FINANCIAL OUTLOOK AND BUDGET, THEN WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT FEEDBACK SO WE CAN BRING THAT TO YOU AND WE CAN DEFINITELY DO IT AS A FULL CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU PREFER DURING THE MONTH OF MAY, THAT WOULD BE OUR PLAN. 
          BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION, MR. BASEL, DO YOU RECKON FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I'LL JUST START BY SAYING I, I AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN WHERE WE ARE WITH, UH, THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, I, I KNOW THAT IN ADVOCACY FOR THE 2024 BOND, IT WAS, UH, EXPLICITLY SOLD TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE WOULD BE, UM, ADDRESSING THE GAP FINANCING FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          UH, AND HERE WE ARE GOING BACK, UH, TO THE VOTERS POTENTIALLY AND ASKING THEM TO FOOT THE BILL AGAIN. 
          UM, I, I LOOK AT A PROJECT THAT TO ME IS, IS GRAND IS GREAT, UH, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT FILLED WITH A LOT OF WISHLIST AND NOT PRIORITIZING NEED. 
          I THINK WE JUST HEARD AS WELL, UH, THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO SEE A LIST OF, UM, UH, ITEMS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ON WHAT WOULD BE PRIORITIZED, WHAT SHOULD BE, UM, THE NEED VERSUS THE WANT. 
          UM, AND, UH, I, I, I, I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH WHERE WE ARE, ESPECIALLY APPROACHING A PRETTY TOUGH FISCAL YEAR BUDGET, UM, FOR US TO BE PRIORITIZING A WISHLIST, UH, PROJECT. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OR ALONG THE SAME LINES WE HAVE, LIKE THE AUDITORIUM, FOR INSTANCE, I'M PRETTY SURE I REMEMBER SOME SPECIFIC FEEDBACK THE LAST TIME WE TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT THAT NOT BEING PRIORITIZED. 
          THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE PIECE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND I THINK THAT IT IS A WISHLIST. 
          UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT DFR HAS THE LUXURY OF HAVING THEIR OWN AUDITORIUM, AND I THINK WE'VE HAD, UH, UH, PLENTY OF SOLUTIONS TO HAVE BEAUTIFUL CEREMONIES, UH, FOR OUR GRADUATING CLASSES, ET CETERA. 
          SO THAT SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THIS AS A, WHAT IS A NEED VERSUS A WANT, WHAT ARE WE FURNISHING? UM, CAN I HAVE JACK COME BACK OUT TO THE PLATFORM PLEASE? JACK, I WANNA TALK ABOUT OUR DEBT CAPACITY. 
          WE'RE BEING ASKED, I WANNA TALK TO JACK ABOUT IT, UM, ABOUT, UH, OUR DEBT CAPACITY AND WHERE, UH, UH, WE'RE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER, UM, A, A BOND. 
          AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO SPEAK TO THAT. 
          SO YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN, JACK ARLAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          SO, UM, LOOKING AT OUR DEBT CAPACITY, I HAVE PREVIOUSLY ANSWERED THAT WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY $250 MILLION 
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A YEAR IN CAPACITY. 
          NOW THAT IS CONSIDERING A LOT OF DIFFERENT VARIABLES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO ONE OF THOSE IS INTEREST RATE AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          SO I HAVE A PROJECTION ON WHAT I THINK INTEREST RATES GONNA BE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, UM, UH, MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT PROJECTION. 
          UH, WE ARE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR FINANCIAL CAPACITY, AND I DON'T DO THAT LIGHTLY, BUT BASED UPON THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS THAT WE SOLD LAST FALL, I FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS WITH THAT. 
          ALSO, WE HAD IN OUR FINANCIAL CAPACITY AN ANTICIPATION OF A BOND PROGRAM IN 2029. 
          SO I'M LOOKING OUT 30 YEARS ON WHAT OUR DEBT'S GOING TO COST OVER THAT TIME PERIOD AND, AND FACTORING IN FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS. SO WE KNOW WE NEED TO FINISH THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM. 
          WE'VE MADE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT EQUIPMENT, UH, REPLACEMENT EACH YEAR, WHETHER IT'S FIRE APPARATUS OR SQUAD CAR REPLACEMENT, OR OTHER GENERAL PURPOSE FLEET, UH, AS WELL AS LIKE I MENTIONED, THE FUTURE, UH, 2029 PRO BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND ALSO WE'VE HELD SOME CAPACITY FOR PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS. 
          SO ALL OF THAT IS IN THE DEBT SERVICE MODEL OF WHAT WE CAN AFFORD. 
          SO TO INCREASE, OR IF WE CHOSE TO, IF YOU CHOSE TO GO FORWARD WITH A, AN ELECTION TO ASK FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, FOR BOTH OF THESE, UH, PROJECTS, FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED TODAY, IT'S ABOUT $250 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL DEBT. 
          SO YES, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          WE, WE CAN GET AUTHORIZATION. 
          IT MAY AFFECT, CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION? UH, WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED ON THE TWO 50, DOES THAT INCLUDE, UM, ON THAT SAME PAGE THAT SHOWS THE OTHER NEEDS THAT WE HAVE? NO, THAT WAS THE TWO 50 IS THE TWO FACILITIES. 
          SO DO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF WHAT IT IS THAT, INCLUDING THESE EXTRA NEEDS THAT ARE ASTERISK AT THE END OF THAT? SO FOR 9 1 1 RELOCATION, UH, THE POLICE PROPERTY ROOM AND THE V BIG SITE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S AN ESTIMATE RELATED TO THOSE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          IS IT SAFE TO SAY THE LAST TIME WE WERE GIVEN A NUMBER FOR WHAT THAT WOULD COST, IT WAS AROUND 250 MILLION AS WELL? I'LL HAVE TO ASK ONE OF THE PROJECT TEAM 9 1 1 3 1 1 AND OEM, WHAT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WE WERE GIVEN? OH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE HAVE THE NUMBER. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN DUO, WE HAVE NOT PRESENTED A DETAILED NUMBER ON THOSE PARTICULAR COMPONENTS. 
          I THINK WHAT WE, WHAT WE SAID WAS, BUT I'M ASKING YOU TO GIVE ME ONE. 
          WE WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK TO GIVE YOU ONE. 
          WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR YOU TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE CAN BUILD THAT INTO HOW WE RESPOND TO TODAY'S QUESTIONS. 
          I, I JUST AM I, THESE ARE, THESE ARE HOLES. 
          UH, Y'ALL ARE ASKING FOR SOME, SOME POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND YOU'RE GIVING US HALF OF THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO MAKE IT SO YOU CAN CONTINUE. 
          THE, THE LAST THING THAT I WOULD SHARE ABOUT, UH, THE FINANCIAL CAPACITY. 
          UH, IF, IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO CHOOSE TO SEEK VOTER APPROVAL FOR $250 MILLION FOR THE TWO FACILITIES THAT THIS TEAM HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING, UH, IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM, THE 2029 BOND PROGRAM, AND THE TIMING OF PROJECTS IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM. 
          IT WOULD BE NEEDED TO, WE CAN'T JUST ADD IT ON TOP. 
          WE WOULD HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHAT COMES FIRST, WHAT PROJECTS WE BORROW FOR IN FISCAL YEAR 27 AND FISCAL YEAR 28, ET CETERA. 
          BUT WE COULD SEEK VOTER AUTHORIZATION FOR $250 MILLION. 
          IT WOULD LOWER WHAT I HAD ASSUMED FOR THE 2029 BOND PROGRAM FROM 1.25 BILLION TO 1.15 BILLION. 
          SO YOU LOSE ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN THAT FUTURE BOND PROGRAM BY ADVANCING AND DOING SOME PUBLIC SAFETY NOW RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL 2029. 
          SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY, IT'S JUST HOW WE PRIORITIZE THE PROJECTS. 
          SURE. 
          THE PRIOR, THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY ASKED THE PUBLIC TO PRIORITIZE IN APPROVING THE BOND. 
          YES SIR. 
          WE'VE, WE'VE ISSUED 500 MILLION OF THE 1.25 THAT THE VOTERS AUTHORIZED IN 2024. 
          AGAIN, WE DIDN'T EVER HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GO BORROW IT ALL AT ONCE. 
          SURE. 
          WE HAD TO STAGE IT OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. 
          SURE. 
          I KNOW. 
          AND, AND WHEN WE ASKED VOTERS TO VOTE ON IT, WE GAVE THEM AN ANTICIPATED EXPECT TIMELINE THAT IT'S NOW GONNA, THE, THE GOALPOST KEEPS MOVING TO THE TAXPAYERS. 
          IT, IT, IT WOULD BE NECESSARY IF THESE BECOME A HIGHER PRIORITY, IT WOULD TAKE THE FIVE YEAR BOND PROGRAM AND STRETCH IT TO SIX AND IT WOULD LOWER THE CAPACITY IN, UH, THE 2029 BOND PROGRAM BY ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION. 
          IF ASSUMPTIONS CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, OF COURSE WE WOULD MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. 
          BUT, AND THAT'S ONLY ASSUMING THAT 250 IS WHAT IS BEING ASKED IN THIS NEXT BOND. 
          AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE, UH, SOLUTIONS FOR THE OTHER NEEDS THAT YOU ALL HAVE LISTED HERE TODAY. 
          IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY POTENTIAL, UM, SOLUTION FOR WHETHER WE STAY OR LEAVE CITY HALL ANY REPAIRS. 
          SO 
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THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT I AGREE WITH CHAIR WEST THAT, UH, WE NEED A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH AND TO STOP TAKING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH MONUMENTAL PROJECTS AS PIECEMEALED UH, DECISIONS BECAUSE IT'S NOT, UH, A A, IT'S NOT A SOUND DECISION FOR US TO MAKE. 
          IT'S NOT FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR US TO SAY WE ARE WILLING TO THROW AWAY THE BABY WITH THE BATH WATER BEFORE WE ACTUALLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF US. 
          IN FACT, IN ORDER TO PUT OFF PROJECTS FROM THE 2024 BOND, IT'S A SLAP IN THE FACE, NOT JUST TO THE VOTERS, BUT TO THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY SAID WERE IN FACT A PRIORITY. 
          THERE WAS NEEDS INVENTORY, THERE WAS A REASON THAT THOSE WERE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, SOME OF WHICH ARE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA NOW ASK DFR TO CONTINUE WORKING IN THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU ARE IN YOUR FIREHOUSES, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE SAID IT WAS A PRIORITY FOR US AND ASKED THE VOTERS TO APPROVE THIS, AND WE'RE GOING TO REPAIR AND GET YOUR STATIONS UP TO PAR BECAUSE YOU ARE THE GUYS WHO ANSWER EVERY SINGLE CALL THAT COMES INTO NINE ONE ONE, NOW WE'RE GONNA TELL YOU THAT WE'RE GONNA PUT YOU ON THE BACK BURNER AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE YOU WAIT A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 
          'CAUSE IT'S NO LONGER A PRIORITY. 
          THIS IS JUST A HORRIBLE MESSAGE TO SEND TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND THIS ISN'T THE WAY WE SHOULD BE DOING BUSINESS. 
          WE TOLD THEM THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE PRIVATE FUNDED. 
          AND SO IN, IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH MY OWN PERSONAL FINANCES IS THAT I HAVE A WISHLIST, BUT IF MY BUDGET DOESN'T MATCH THAT WISHLIST, I'VE GOTTA START TIGHTENING MY BELT ON WHAT IT IS THAT I CAN AFFORD AT THAT TIME. 
          THERE COULD BE A PHASED APPROACH THAT COULD GIVE YOU ALL THE WISHLIST THAT YOU A DESIRE AT THIS SITE, BUT TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE AND TO DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER PROJECTS AND THE PROMISES WE HAVE MADE TO THE PUBLIC, THIS ISN'T, THIS ISN'T RIGHT. 
          I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY, UH, FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD HAVE A BETTER APPROACH BROUGHT TO US TO CONSIDER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN, CAN I, UM, RESPOND TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S COMMENT ABOUT THE AUDITORIUM AND THE NEEDS VERSUS THE WANT? SURE. 
          UM, WE DID HEAR THAT FEEDBACK, UH, THE LAST TIME IN TERMS OF THAT WAS A WANT TO HAVE AND NOT A NEED TO HAVE. 
          AND SO, UM, THE DESIGN TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WITHIN THE EXISTING PROGRAM. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE OFFERING IS NOT A SEPARATE AUDITORIUM FACILITY FOR, UM, FOR GRADUATION. 
          WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS IDENTIFY SPACE IN THE PHYSICAL TRAINING PAVILION THAT ALLOWS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, 800 PEOPLE TO GATHER IN, UM, IN, UM, THAT TYPE OF CELEBRATION, WHETHER IT'S A GRADUATION OR OTHER, UH, RECOGNITION. 
          SO, UM, I THINK WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH DPD TO, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR TRAINING NEEDS ARE, UM, AND WHERE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE WANTS WITHIN THE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT ALSO. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, MR. MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WANTED TO THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER BA FOR YOUR QUESTIONS AND FOR THE RESPONSES THAT I KNOW CAME FROM THE TEAM. 
          I DO WANT TO JUST FROM JUST PUTTING THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE, UM, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED REPEATEDLY TO COME AND BRING YOU THE FULL PICTURE ABOUT THIS WHOLE PUBLIC SAFETY, THE TRAINING ACADEMY, AS WELL AS THE COMPLEX, I THINK FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          AND OUR COMMITMENT WAS, IS THAT WE WOULD BRING YOU THE FULL PICTURE. 
          WE DEFINITELY KNOW THAT TODAY YOU'RE NOT PREPARED TO GIVE, UM, STAFF YES, LET'S GO DO A BOND PROGRAM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW YOU THE PIECES. 
          SO YOU GIVE US KIND OF THAT GUIDANCE ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER AS WE CONTINUE TO FINE TUNE NOT ONLY THE WORK THAT, UM, IS BEING DONE WITH OUR CM MORE TEAM, WITH THE BOND OFFICE, UM, BUT, BUT GIVEN US THAT PERSPECTIVE. 
          BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE'RE TRYING TO BRING THIS INTO A FULL DISCUSSION SO WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT YOU NEED MORE OF AND HOW YOU WANT US TO THEN, UH, CONTENDER TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH THE PROJECT. 
          WE CAN START BUILDING THE TRAINING, UM, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          BUT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IS, IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER ON ANYTHING ELSE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT THAT IS AND BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT FULL PICTURE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO. 
          SO DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENT OF MAKING SURE THAT YOU GET THAT FULL PICTURE AND WE DEFINITELY WILL DO THAT. 
          BUT TODAY WAS REALLY IN RESPONSE TO REPEATED QUESTIONS TO GIVE YOU THE FULL PICTURE SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE COUNCIL, I MEAN, GIVE THE STAFF FEEDBACK ON WHERE WE ARE AS OF TODAY. 
          BUT THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND, UM, THE PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU'VE SHARED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR PROTE, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WELL, I'M NOT DISAPPOINTED TO HAVE A GROUNDBREAKING DATE ON THE CALENDAR, SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY GREAT NEWS. 
          AND UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, IT'S NOT A WISHLIST FOR OUR RESIDENTS. 
          UM, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO DRILL INTO THE PARTICULARS, OBVIOUSLY, 
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AS WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS. 
          AND I WAS PLEASED TO GET THE QUESTION ANSWERED ABOUT THE AUDITORIUM BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONCERN. 
          I THINK WHEN THAT WAS MENTIONED, IS THAT ACTUALLY JUST MUCH LIKE OUR PUBLIC LIBRARIES, WHEN WE BUILD A NEW ONE OR WHEN WE, UH, MODIFY THEM, WE'RE MAKING THEM MORE MODULAR SO THAT A SPACE WORKS FOR A LOT MORE THAN ONE INTENDED PURPOSE. 
          SO I LIKE THE SOLUTION THAT YOU ALL HAVE COME UP WITH THE MOST RECENT OR ONE OF THE MOST RECENT GRADUATIONS AT TEMPLE SHALOM. 
          IT WAS WONDERFUL TO BE IN DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS, BUT IT'S SUCH A CHALLENGE FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND OFFICERS AND EVERYONE TO, TO COME TO. 
          SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE ACCOMMODATING WHEN WE'RE CELEBRATING SUCH A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT, UM, ON, I, UM, WANNA LOOK AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS ON THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          'CAUSE SO OFTEN IN THE CITY WE'RE HAVING TO RETROFIT AROUND INFRASTRUCTURE OR TAKE A FACILITY AND TURN IT INTO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT NOW WE GET TO ESTABLISH IT AND DO IT RIGHT AND HAVE IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE. 
          SO THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO PUT THINGS IN THE RIGHT PLACE. 
          UM, AND I DO THINK HAVING THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER AT, UH, UTD IS ABSOLUTELY, OR YES, UNTD YES. 
          SORRY, UM, IS IS THE RIGHT PLACE. 
          UM, SO IN LOOKING AT YOUR POLICY CONSIDERATIONS, I'M GONNA GO TO THE ONE ABOUT PUBLIC ART. 
          I, I SUPPORT DEVOTING THOSE FUNDS TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. 
          I THINK ON THAT CAMPUS, IT'S EXTRAORDINARY NATURE IS THE ART AND I THINK THE DESIGNS WE'RE SEEING THAT IS THE ART. 
          SO, UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND WOULD SUPPORT, UH, HAVING THOSE FUNDS DIRECTED TO THE PROJECT ITSELF. 
          ON, I WANNA GET TO THE DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT SITE IN TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, PSTC, THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER. 
          AND MR. CARINO, YOU, YOU ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS FOR ME. 
          IF YOU'LL COME UP PLEASE. 
          SO WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS, I THOUGHT, ARE WE TRADING DOWN SOME AVIATION ADJACENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES? AND TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE SHARED WITH ME ABOUT HOW THAT IS NOT, UH, AS MUCH OF A CONCERN. 
          YES. 
          UH, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON THE FUTURE OF DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT WITH THIS BODY AND COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE. 
          UM, WE'RE, WHEN WE WERE APPROACHED WITH THIS, UM, OUR INITIAL DUE DILIGENCE IS AS COMPATIBLE. 
          UM, WHAT IS THE FIT FOR THE AIRPORT? UH, THE LAND THAT'S IDENTIFIED, WE WOULD SAY IS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED FOR RUNWAY DEPENDENT USE. 
          AND IT ALSO, IF WE LOOK AT OUR FORECAST, UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A NEW AIRPORT LAYOUT PLAN, WHICH WILL PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, IN THOSE 20 YEAR FORECASTS, THE ACTIVITY LEVELS, WE WOULDN'T PROJECT THAT LAND TO BE NEEDED, UH, FOR AERONAUTICS NAUTICAL USE. 
          SO, UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, IF WE TAKE THIS 60 ISH ACRES, THERE'S STILL SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS, SEVERAL HUNDRED ACRES ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT AND ALSO ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE AIRPORT. 
          UM, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPLORE, UM, OUTSIDE OF NOT, YOU KNOW, AVIATION USES THAT DON'T REQUIRE A, A RUNWAY LIKE SCHOOLS, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AVIATION, UM, EDUCATION HUB, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THIS WOULDN'T IMPEDE ON THAT. 
          AND I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE FORECAST, WHEN WE START TO LOOK 20, 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IF YOU KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO SEE DALLAS EXECUTIVE BECOME BECOMES THAT AIRPORT. 
          UM, THE CITY AT THAT TIME IN 30 OR 40 YEARS COULD COME DOWN AND SAY, LET'S RE-ENVISION THIS PUBLIC TRAINING CENTER AND WHERE IT'S, WHAT'S THE OVERALL ACREAGE OF THE AIRPORT, THE TOTAL ACREAGE, UM, I'LL HAVE TO GET YOU THAT. 
          I THINK WE HAVE WHAT'S LEFT AVAILABLE IS AROUND 300 ACRES OR SO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S A LOT, A LOT OF LAND. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS ABOUT, UH, AND CHAIR GRACIE, I BUZZED IN BEFORE YOU, SO I KNOW I'M STEPPING ON A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR TERRITORY, BUT, UM, I KNOW YOU'LL DRILL INTO THIS MORE, UM, THE HOTEL THAT WAS ANNOUNCED, THE RADISSON PROPERTY IS, AND THAT'S LONG HAMPTON. 
          SO HOW DOES THIS, HOW WOULD THE POSITIONING OF THIS LINE UP WITH THAT WONDERFUL PROJECT THAT'S BEEN ANNOUNCED? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          I THINK IT ALIGNS UP PERFECTLY. 
          I MEAN, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, UM, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANYBODY COMING IN TO VISIT AND DO TRAINING OUTSIDE, UM, THEY'D BE ABLE TO STAY THERE. 
          SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR, UH, TO MATCH THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO YOU WOULD NOT, DID YOU SAY YOU WOULD SEE IT? YOU WOULD NOT SEE IT? I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SIMULATED TRAINING VILLAGE AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE COMING TO STAY AT A HOTEL, I'D WANNA BE SENSITIVE TO THAT. 
          IT, IT WOULD BE, UH, IT WOULD BE ADJACENT. 
          WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LAYOUT. 
          IT'S ESSENTIALLY RIGHT NOW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ENTRY ROAD. 
          UM, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW CLOSE IT WOULD BE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL I'M GONNA JUST TRUST THAT YOU ALL ARE GONNA TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND I KNOW CHAIR GRACIE WILL BE HAW EYEING THAT ONE. 
          UM, YOU KIND OF BURIED THE LEAD ON SOMETHING THAT TIPPED ME OVER TO 
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BEING OKAY WITH THIS, AND THAT IS ABOUT THE REVENUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE AIRPORT? YES. 
          SO, UH, OUR FEDERAL GRANT ASSURANCES, UM, FOR THE ENTER THE ENTERPRISE FUND AT BOTH AIRPORTS REQUIRES THE MONEY TO STAY WITHIN THE ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          SO, UM, WHEN WE LEASE LAND, WHETHER IT'S TO A DEVELOPER OR WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY, UM, THAT REVENUE GOES BACK INTO THE AVIATION ENTERPRISE FUND. 
          AND WHAT WE WOULD PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT REVENUE WOULD, UM, MORE THAN DOUBLE THE TOTAL REVENUE FOR DALLAS EXECUTIVE TODAY. 
          SO, WHEN WE START TO THINK ABOUT INVESTMENT IN DALLAS EXECUTIVE, THE OPERATION, UM, THAT GOES A LONG WAYS, UH, TO, TO HELPING REALIZE THE VISION FOR THAT AIRPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS. 
          WE CAN INFUSE MONEY INTO IT, DOUBLE THE REVENUE RIGHT NOW FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. 
          AND THEN IN THE FUTURE, IF WE WANNA LOOK AT MOVING THIS TO A DIFFERENT SITE, WHEN MORE OF THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO. 
          BUT IT DOES MAKE ME ASK, WANNA ASK MORE ABOUT THE STRUCTURES THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS. 
          UM, I MEAN, ARE, ARE THESE, I, I SEE A TRACK AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          I MEAN, HOW HARD WOULD THIS BE IN 20 TO 30 YEARS TO RECREATE AT A DIFFERENT SITE? THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S HEAVY ON THE, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS, ET CETERA. 
          SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO, TO CREATE WHAT WE WERE SHOWING IN THE EXHIBITS, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE DIFFICULT PART. 
          THE DIFFICULT PART HAS BEEN FINDING THE 60 ACRES THAT WE HAVE THAT, THAT WE CAN BUILD ON. 
          SO IN 20 OR 30 YEARS, THIS WOULD NOT BE SOME MASSIVE UNDERTAKING TO MOVE, YOU KNOW, WITH LOTS OF NEW STRUCTURES TO BE BUILT. 
          A LOT OF, OKAY. 
          UM, SO THEN I WANNA GET INTO THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION. 
          AND THIS IS PART OF THE BIGGER FINANCIAL DISCUSSION. 
          IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE GET THE PIECE BY PIECE, WE ATTEND COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND, AND SEE PRESENTATIONS AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS, AND WE GET PIECES OF THINGS. 
          AND SO WHAT I WAS HAVE ASKED FOR AND, UH, SUPPORT CHAIR, UM, WEST ON THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REVIEW. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT. 
          I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THIS IS STAFF DRIVEN. 
          I WANT A MUNICIPAL FINANCE ROCKSTAR TO LOOK AT WHAT ALL OF THE CARDS ON THE TABLE. 
          I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO VOTERS AND TALKING ABOUT VARIOUS TYPES OF BONDS, UM, LOOKING AT OUR RATING, I MEAN, LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR AND WITH ALL OF THE OBLIGATIONS THAT WE KNOW ARE BEFORE US SO WE CAN MAKE THE BEST, MOST SOUND FINANCIAL DECISIONS. 
          UH, SO SHIFTING BACK TO THE PROJECT ITSELF, UM, ON THIS, ON THE, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING ASPECT, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE PRIVATE FUNDRAISING, UM, HAPPENING ON, ON THAT, AND IT MAY BE PREMATURE. 
          UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO GO ON AND EXPLORE THIS IN THE NEXT ROUND IF WE WANNA DO THAT. 
          THANKS CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. 
          UM, SO I'M JUST GONNA SHARE WITH YOU ALL HOW I LOOK AT THIS. 
          UM, THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE IS THAT I THINK WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT DOING SOMETHING, SOME TYPE OF A TRAINING FACILITY BACK IN THE NINETIES. 
          UM, MY DEAR FRIEND TIP HOUSE WRIGHTS FIRM ACTUALLY DREW UP SOME PLANS FOR THAT, AND I'VE SEEN THOSE. 
          AND SO THIS IS NOT NEW. 
          THIS IS A PROMISE THAT WE HAVE MADE TO OUR, UM, POLICE OFFICERS DECADES AGO. 
          AND, UM, WE ARE NOW FINALLY AT A PLACE WHERE WE WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE GOOD ON THAT. 
          UM, I ALSO REGRET THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE TRAINING FACILITY THAT WE WAS TEMPORARY FOR, FOR 35 YEARS. 
          AGAIN, THIS, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THIS TEAM TO GET US TO THIS POINT. 
          UM, I WANNA BE YOUR CHEERLEADER ON TIMEFRAMES AND FUNDING. 
          UM, AND I KNOW WE'LL, WE'LL WAIT AND SEE HOW, HOW ALL OF THAT PANS OUT, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A, IN A VERY GOOD SPOT. 
          A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT. 
          UM, SO I DO, UM, UM, MR. IRELAND, IF YOU COULD COME FORWARD, I JUST, I KNOW, UM, BEING CHAIR OF PENSION AND, UM, AS WE LOOK AT OUR CURRENT BOND, UM, OUR 2024 BOND OBLIGATIONS, AND THEN WE'RE LAYERING IN SOMETHING ELSE. 
          UM, SO JUST, UM, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT. 
          IF YOU JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH, HOW DO WE BALANCE ALL THIS? I KNOW THAT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON PENSION, WE ARE IN A FIVE YEAR STEP UP, UH, IN TERMS OF INCREASING OUR PAYMENT, A CERTAIN INCREMENT EACH OF THOSE FIVE YEARS. 
          UM, AND WHAT YEAR DOES THAT FIVE, IS THAT FIVE YEARS UP? SO THE, THE FIVE YEAR STEP UP THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, WAS FISCAL YEAR 25 THROUGH FISCAL YEAR 29. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN IN FISCAL YEAR 30, ANY GAINS OR LOSSES THAT WERE EXPERIENCED IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS THEN GET AMORTIZED IN 
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BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR 2030. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHEN WE'RE, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS, BECAUSE ONCE, FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, ONCE WE GET PAST THE FIVE YEAR STEP UP, THE INCREASE COULD BE SIGNIFICANT IN THAT PAYMENT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? OR IS THAT, IS THAT, SO THE FIVE YEAR STEP UP WAS, UH, FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UH, MITIGATING SOME OF THOSE INCREASES AND CONTROLLING SOME OF THOSE INCREASES. 
          AND SO THE FIRST FIVE YEARS IS KNOWN, IT'S AN EXACT NUMBER. 
          WELL, I SAY EXACT. 
          THE, THE LARGEST PART OF IT IS AN EXACT NUMBER. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A PERCENT BASED ON PAYROLL. 
          SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF FLUCTUATION IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS. 
          BUT THEN WITH THE FIVE YEARS OF GAINS OR LOSSES THAT ARE EXPERIENCED DURING THE STEP UP PERIOD, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2030 IS MORE OF A VARIABLE NUMBER. 
          IT'S GONNA BE BASED ON A LARGER PERCENT OF PAY. 
          AND SO IT'S BY HAVING THE FIVE YEAR STEP UP, WE MITIGATED THAT BIG JUMP. 
          BUT THERE'S STILL SOME UNKNOWN AT THIS POINT. 
          AND THAT NUMBER IS SET BY AN ACTUARY, IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS Y YES MA'AM. 
          IT WILL BE BASED ON, UH, AN ACTUARILY DETERMINED CONTRIBUTION RATE THAT WILL BE FULLY IMPLEMENTED IN THAT FISCAL YEAR, 2030 AFTER THE FIVE YEAR STEP UP, UH, CONCLUDES. 
          SO WE DON'T GET TO PICK WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, IS THAT WHAT I'M SAYING? NO, WE DON'T THINK THAT NUMBER. 
          JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. 
          UM, SO WE LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROL THERE AND WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, UM, COMMITMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT BEGINS IN 2030. 
          AND WE, WE WERE THINKING OF ANOTHER BOND ELECTION IN 29, IS THAT CORRECT? SO, UM, WITH THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM ORIGINALLY PLANNED AS A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM, THEN YES, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, UH, HAVING ANOTHER ONE IN, UH, 2029. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO REGARDING PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS, UH, I HAVE FACTORED IN, UH, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH, UH, THE FUNDING AGREEMENT ON THE PENSION, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR DALLAS POLICE AND FIRE. 
          UM, WE HAD FACTORED INTO OUR CAPACITY $500 MILLION POTENTIALLY FOR A PENSION OBLIGATION BOND PROGRAM IF THE CITY COUNCIL CHOSE TO DO THAT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, AS, UH, EARLY AS FISCAL YEAR 28. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, WE CAN MOVE THINGS AROUND WITHIN THE CAPACITY. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST, I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AND I APPRECIATE THIS BRIEFING BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON ONE NARROW THING. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY, YOU'VE PULLED IN THE, THE TOPIC OF THE PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS WITHIN THIS BRIEFING. 
          AND I AGREE WITH CHAIR WEST. 
          WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AS A COUNCIL AND DIG INTO THIS. 
          UM, SO WE ARE MAKING GOOD, PROACTIVE PLANNING FORWARD, HOWEVER YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT. 
          BUT WE ARE, WE'RE MAKING SOLID DECISIONS, RIGHT? WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE HEADED, WE KNOW WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE HAVE PRIORITIZED WHAT WE BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY, TO OUR RESIDENTS, TO WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US IS IMPORTANT. 
          SO THAT IS REALLY, UM, MY FOCUS NOW IS TO, TO, UM, PULL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER. 
          AND I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL DO AN EXCELLENT JOB OF THAT, BUT I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO GET THAT, UM, LOOKED AT VERY CAREFULLY. 
          UM, I WANT VERY MUCH TO SUPPORT THESE TWO PROJECTS. 
          I, I THINK THAT, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE PLANNING AND THE WORK THAT'S GONE IN IS EXCELLENT. 
          UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS. 
          I THINK WHAT IT DOES FOR, UM, THE UNTD CAMPUS AS WELL AS JUST OUR CITY, OUR OBLIGATION TO OUR, OUR OFFICERS LIFE GETS MORE COMPLEX FOR THEM. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER TRAINING FACILITY OVERALL. 
          I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THAT NEED AND THAT UNDERSTANDING. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND TODAY. 
          AND AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE, UM, EVERYBODY'S PRESENTATION AND I MAY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS TO COME. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR JOHNSON. 
          SIR, IF I MAY, YES. 
          RESPOND TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART'S, UH, COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN OVER THIS PROJECT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND BEING OVER THIS PROJECT, BECOME A STUDENT OF IT, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY AND WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE AND THE VISION BEFORE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU IF I COULD. 
          THE CITY OF DALLAS PAID 1.4 MILLION LAST WEEK TO PURCHASE 107 ACRES TO BUILD A DALLAS POLICE ACADEMY INDOOR OUTDOOR PISTOL RANGE IN A DRIVING COURSE. 
          CAPTAIN JUAN RODRIGUEZ OF THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION DIVISION SAID THAT THE EARLIEST PROJECTED COMPLETION DATE FOR THIS ACADEMY COMPLEX IS 19, WOULD BE 1993. 
          THAT FALLS IN LINE. 
          'CAUSE I CAME ON THE MID NINETIES AND I WAS TOLD THAT WE WEREN'T GONNA BE HERE LONG. 
          IT WILL COST APPROXIMATELY 25 MILLION TO BUILD A MUCH NEEDED COMPLEX. 
          THE CAPTAIN SAID WE NO LONGER HAVE THE ROOM FOR IN-SERVICE COURSES AT OUR PRESENT LOCATIONS. 
          RECRUITS HAVE TO CHANGE INTO THEIR PT GEAR IN THEIR CARS, OR BY THE COMMODES BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE DRESSING AREAS. 
          AND PARKING IS EXTREMELY 
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LIMITED. 
          SOUNDS EXTREMELY FAMILIAR. 
          IN ADDITION TO HAVING THE TWO TO THREE RECRUIT CLASSES AND SESSIONS AT ALL TIMES. 
          AND I WISH THAT WAS THE CASE 'CAUSE WE HAVE SEVEN, WE'RE ABOUT TO GO TO EIGHT NEXT YEAR. 
          THE DIVISION IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE PROVIDING STATE MANDATED AID MANDATED IN-SERVICE SCHOOLS FOR VETERAN OFFICERS AND FOR THE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY, MUCH OF THE IN-SERVICE TRAINING IS BEING DONE AT OTHER LOCATIONS. 
          WHAT DPD ENVISIONS IS A COLLEGE CAMPUS TYPE COMPLEX THAT WOULD NOT ONLY PROVIDE STATE OF THE ART TRAINING FACILITY FOR THE DALLAS POLICE RECRUITS AND VETERAN OFFICERS, BUT ALSO BE USED TO TRAIN FOR PAY OFFICERS FROM OTHER AGENCIES. 
          SEVERAL AGENCIES HAVE ALREADY APPROACHED US ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAYING AN ANNUAL FEE TO USE THIS DRIVING COURSE DATED MAY 29TH, 1987. 
          THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF WANTS. 
          THESE ARE ALL NEEDS. 
          WE HAVE BURSTING AT THE SEAMS. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EVERY PLACE THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN TO HOLD THIS TRAINING. 
          AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, CHAIRMAN GRACIE, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, AND, AND BEFORE I GET INTO MY, MY LINE OF QUESTIONS, I DO NEED TO JUST BE ON THE RECORD AS SAYING, AND, AND MADAM CITY MANAGER, I CANNOT LET YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS. 
          UM, BUT I JUST LEARNED ABOUT THIS FRIDAY. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HOW LONG YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, UH, WHICH IS GREAT AND YOU SHOULD BE, BUT THE, THE, THE DISRESPECT THAT I'M FEELING RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE JUST, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS FRIDAY AND THE UNFORTUNATE PART IS I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH DPD ABOUT PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY CENTERED AROUND TRAINING, UH, SECURITY AND APARTMENT COMPLEXES. 
          AND A COUPLE OF THE COMPLEXES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OUR RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM EXECUTIVE AIRPORT AND STILL NO MENTION OF THAT. 
          THAT WAS A WEEK, MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO, STILL NO MENTION. 
          I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH AVIATION ABOUT, UH, THE AVIATION INNOVATION HUB AND, AND TALKING ABOUT WHERE THAT COULD BE. 
          AND IN FACT, THAT WAS THE LOCATION I WAS LOOKING AT, BUT STILL NO MENTION. 
          NOW I GIVE THEM CREDIT THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I COMMUNICATED. 
          I THOUGHT I DID, BUT I DIDN'T EXACTLY APPARENTLY COMMUNICATE WHERE, BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT STILL THERE WAS NO MENTION. 
          AND EVERY TIME WE ROLL THESE THINGS OUT, AGAIN, THIS IS THE VERY FIRST DISCUSSION PUBLICLY ABOUT THIS. 
          SO I DO WANT TO, UH, STATE THAT. 
          BUT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS TO BE COMMUNICATED TO ME SO THAT I COULD, PUN INTENDED, GIVE MY COMMUNITY MY CONSTITUENTS A RUNWAY SO THAT THEY COULD BE PREPARED. 
          I THINK THIS COULD BE A GOOD THING FOR, UH, FOR DISTRICT THREE, BUT WHEN YOU DON'T COMMUNICATE AND DON'T GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH MY, UH, CONSTITUENTS, IT BECOMES A TOUGH CLIMB. 
          AND I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT DPD, UH, FROM THERE, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED. 
          BUT THIS FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE HAS GOT TO STOP. 
          I MEAN, WE ALL SPEAK IN POWERPOINTS AND I JUST SENT YOU ALL A POWERPOINT AND I'LL SEND IT TO, I USUALLY COPY JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY I THINK MIGHT NEED TO BE INVOLVED OR MIGHT NEED TO BE MADE AWARE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE SILOED, YOU KNOW, MOVEMENTS TO BE HAPPENING. 
          AND I WANT THAT SAME MATTER OF RESPECT. 
          IF I'M PLANNING SOMETHING, I TRY TO LOOP YOU ALL IN EARLY, BECAUSE IF YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON SOMETHING AND IT CONFLICTS, I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THAT. 
          I'M ASKING AND DEMANDING THAT SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT, PROFESSIONAL COURTESY. 
          Y'ALL DIDN'T DO THAT. 
          AND IT MAKES IT HARD. 
          AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE GUN RANGE IS A STONE THROW AWAY FROM MY HOUSE. 
          AND NOW IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE I'M TRYING TO MOVE IT OUTTA MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND AS A STUDENT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, I BELIEVE IN THE LAST RESORT FOR TRUST IN GOVERNMENT IS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. 
          AND WE KEEP FAILING BY NOT COMMUNICATING. 
          I WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU ALL ON A REGULAR BASIS AND GIVE YOU ANYTHING I'M THINKING OF BEFORE. 
          IT'S EVEN A REAL IDEA, HEY, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK ABOUT THIS? I TRY TO DO THAT PRETTY REGULARLY. 
          THAT'S NOT RECIPROCATED AND IT'S GONNA MAKE THIS JOURNEY A LOT HARDER. 
          NOW I KNOW WE ARE DOWN THE ROAD, BUT THAT'S THE THING THAT I AM DEMANDING THE MUTUAL RESPECT. 
          WE CAN'T KEEP MOVING AROUND TIPTOEING AROUND CERTAIN THINGS SPECIFICALLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ACTIVITY IN SOUTHERN DALLAS. 
          BECAUSE IF I'M FEELING THAT YOU GOT A WHOLE GROUP OF RESIDENTS IN SOUTHERN DALLAS THAT ARE FEELING THAT TOO, WHEN THEY'RE CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY THESE TYPE OF PRESENTATIONS. 
          SO AGAIN, MADAM CITY MANAGER, I'M NOT GONNA LET YOU TAKE THE BLAME BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM ABOUT THIS AND NOBODY MENTIONED IT TO ME NOT ONE TIME. 
          SO AGAIN, I KNOW THERE'S THAT COMMENT WHERE YOU COULD HAVE COME TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL OF THAT. 
          YEAH, I COULD HAVE, BUT I'M NOT ON THAT COMMITTEE. 
          BUT WHAT I DID DO IS BEEN MEETING WITH Y'ALL AND SHARING INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH, ANYTIME TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE BECAUSE I WAS A FORMER CITY EMPLOYEE. 
          I'M ASKING FOR THAT SAME LEVEL OF RESPECT GOING FORWARD. 
          AND THAT'S TO ALL OF 
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Y'ALL. 
          SO NOW WITH THAT SAID, I WANNA START WITH THE SITE LOCATION, UM, THERE BECAUSE I, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT PARTICULARLY HENSLEY FIELD. 
          AND, AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WAS GONNA ASK JUST CAME TO ME WAS, UM, THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD, UH, WHEN IS, WHEN IS THEIR LEASE UP? UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, BEFORE WE, UM, JUMP INTO YOUR QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO, UM, HENSLEY FIELD, UM, I JUST WANNA PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO YOU, UM, FOR, FOR THAT, UM, LACK OF COORDINATION AND COMMUNICATION WITH YOU. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A, A, AN IMPORTANT LESSON LEARNED ON THIS JOURNEY. 
          UM, AND, UM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION, UM, WITH, UM, US AND THE TEAM. 
          UM, CITY MANAGER HAS CHARGED US TO COLLABORATE, COMMUNICATE, CONNECT, AND, UM, WE DID NOT ACCOMPLISH THOSE OBJECTIVES. 
          AND YOU'RE RIGHT, SHE SHOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, FOR US MAKING SURE WE MEET THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. 
          SO, UM, WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THE QUESTION ON HENSLEY? YEAH. 
          AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT APOLOGY, BUT THIS IS FOR THE AVIATION SIDE. 
          THIS IS NUMBER TWO. 
          UH, NOT THAT I'M KEEPING TRACK, BUT I AM, THIS IS NUMBER TWO, UH, ON THAT ONE. 
          SO AGAIN, I I DO APPRECIATE THAT APOLOGY, BUT AGAIN, I'M ASKING AND DEMANDING THAT SAME LEVEL OF MUTUAL RESPECT. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT APOLOGY PUBLICLY. 
          I DO APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, WHAT I WAS ASKING WAS ABOUT HENSLEY FIELD AS AN OPTION, AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE LOCATION. 
          SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANNA UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE PROXIMITY TO THE TRAINING FACILITY AND WHY THAT MATTERS. 
          BUT THE OTHER PIECE IS FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, IF I'M NOT SURE, I THINK THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD LEASE MAY BE COMING UP. 
          AND IF THAT WAS A SITE WHERE ON HENSLEY FIELD, WHAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED ON HENSLEY FIELD? SO, SO WHEN IT CAME TO HENSLEY FIELD, UM, THERE WERE, THERE WERE TWO ITEMS THAT KIND OF ELIMINATED IT FROM CONSIDERATION. 
          AND IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE LEASE, BUT IT WAS THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE ONGOING LITIGATION, UM, WITH THE NAVY. 
          AND, AND THE UNKNOWN TIMEFRAME WAS WHEN, WHEN THE SITE WOULD BE AVAILABLE. 
          UM, AND THERE WAS ALSO JUST AN UNKNOWN, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, CONCERN WITH THE SITE TOO. 
          SO WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE SOME CLEANUP THAT, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT WOULD GO INTO THE CONTRACT OR THE, THE PROGRAM COST AS WELL. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER WHEN IT COMES TO THE LEASE THOUGH. 
          I'D HAVE TO, UM, RESEARCH THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU. 
          WHEN WAS THAT CONSIDERED? 'CAUSE I, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, I THINK THAT'S COMING UP MAYBE 31 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHEN THAT, WHEN THAT LEASE IS COMING UP, I'LL COME BACK FOR A SECOND ROUND. 
          YEAH. 
          NOT TO CONFIRM, I'M JUST NOT AWARE. 
          CHAIR RIDLEY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I TOO AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE WAY THAT THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN MANAGED. 
          WE ARE PRESENTED NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH THE PROSPECT OF ADDITIONAL BOND FINANCING AFTER WE TOLD THE VOTERS JUST A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE ASKED THEM TO SUPPORT A $50 MILLION BOND PROPOSITION FOR THIS VERY PROJECT, THAT THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDING WOULD BE RAISED PRIVATELY. 
          AND NOW ARE WE THROWING UP OUR HANDS AND SAYING, WE CAN'T DO THAT. 
          WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS TO ASK THEM TO FUND IT. 
          COUNCILMAN RIDLEY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. 
          UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE $50 MILLION THAT WAS PUT IN THE LAST BOND PROGRAM, THAT WAS BASED ON A PROJECT ESTIMATE OF 140 MILLION. 
          UM, WE, THE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT 140 MILLION WAS ESTIMATED. 
          THERE WAS NO PROGRAMMING WORK, THERE WAS NO DESIGN WORK. 
          THERE WAS, UM, ONLY A, UM, AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROJECT WAS GONNA BE ON UNT DALLAS. 
          AND, UM, IT WAS ENVISIONED TO BE A 50 50 PARTNERSHIP WITH PRIVATE FUNDRAISERS PROVIDING 50% OF THAT, WHICH IS WHERE THE 70 MILLION COMES FROM. 
          THE, UM, THE REMAINDER, THE 50 MILLION IN THE BOND PROGRAM AND 20 MILLION FROM THE STATE. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RECEIVE 25 MILLION FROM THE STATE. 
          UM, WE'VE, UH, UM, HAVE PASSED THE, THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND, UM, THE FUNDRAISERS ARE ON TRACK, AS YOU'VE HEARD, UM, TO, TO RAISE THE 70 MILLION. 
          WHAT WE SHARED WITH YOU IN OUR BRIEFING IN THE PAST WAS THAT WE WERE RESETTING THE BUDGET FOR 185 MILLION BASED ON THE DESIGN ESTIMATES THAT WE HAD ON A REAL SITE, ON A SITE PLAN, UM, WITH FACTUAL INFORMATION. 
          UM, SO THAT ALREADY PRESENTED A $40 MILLION DELTA THAT WAS GOING TO NEED TO BE FUNDED. 
          WE, UM, SHARED SOME POTENTIAL FUNDING STRATEGIES WITH YOU, INCLUDING, UM, COMING BACK TO TALK ABOUT THE BOND PROGRAM. 
          BUT WE WERE STILL EARLY IN THE PROGRAMMING 
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PHASE, WE HAD NOT DEVELOPED DESIGN DOCUMENTS. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET DETAILED SITE INFORMATION AND DEVELOP YOUR DESIGN DOCUMENTS, AND WE HAVE OUR CMR ONBOARD, WE HAVE A MORE COMPLETE COST ESTIMATE AT THAT TIME. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU IS THERE'S MORE OF A FUNDING GAP THAN THE 40 MILLION THAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO THIS BODY IN THE PAST. 
          WELL, THAT CAUSES ME EVEN MORE CONCERN THAT WE DON'T KNOW TODAY HOW THE $140 MILLION COST ESTIMATE WAS ARRIVED AT. 
          UM, I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE 28 AND I SEE THAT THE CMAR ESTIMATE HAS NOW IDENTIFIED A JUMP IN 40, UH, $42 MILLION. 
          AND, UH, I HAVE HEARD NO ONE TO DATE AT THIS HEARING MENTIONED THE TWO WORDS THAT USUALLY ARISE WHEN THE BUILDING PROGRAM EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE TO FUND IT. 
          AND THAT IS VALUE ENGINEERING. 
          WHY ISN'T ANYONE CONSIDERING VALUE ENGINEERING TO BRING THIS PROJECT WITHIN OUR CAPABILITIES FINANCIALLY, NATURALLY. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT AND NOW THAT THE CMR AND OUR OWNER'S REP IS ON BOARD, UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM AS WELL, UH, TO GET THE PROJECT, UM, DOWN, DOWN TO, UH, AS, AS MUCH AS WE CAN, RIGHT. 
          BUT THERE HAS BEEN, UM, SOME CONCERN THAT THE CMR RAISES, UM, ABOUT MARKET FLUCTUATIONS. 
          AND THAT'S IN INCLUDED IN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. 
          IT DOESN'T TAKE, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ENTIRE $82 MILLION, BUT ALONG THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN, UM, DOING SOME VALUE ENGINEERING. 
          THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM, UM, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT HAD QUITE A FEW, UM, UM, DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT WERE, UH, INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM. 
          BUT WE ARE, WE ARE STILL CONTINUING THAT WORK. 
          WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK DEEPER TO FIND MORE COST SAVINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION ABOUT CUTTING OUT THE AUDITORIUM, UH, I THINK DEV, YOU GAVE THE RESPONSE THAT, WELL, WE CAN HOUSE THEM IN OUR, UH, PHYSICAL TRAINING FACILITY, WHICH CAN HOLD 800 PEOPLE. 
          WHY DOES A PHYSICAL TRAINING FACILITY NEED ROOM FOR 800 PEOPLE? OR HAS THAT NOW BECOME THE AUDITORIUM? DAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE DEVELOP THE, THE SIZING FOR THE PHY PHYSICAL TRAINING PAVILION? THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, COME TO PASS IN PUTTING AN INDOOR TRACK IN THE FACILITY IS WHEN YOU'VE GOT A TRACK, YOU'VE GOT A LARGE SPACE TRYING TO USE THE INTERIOR PORTION OF THAT FOR MULTI-PURPOSES. 
          NOT ONLY IS IT PROVIDING PHYSICAL TRAINING FACILITIES, BUT IT'S PROVIDING A LARGE SPACE LIKE A GYMNASIUM WHERE YOU COULD HAVE, UH, THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT PREVIOUSLY HAD BEEN IN AN AUDITORIUM SETTING. 
          THIS IS BASICALLY A FLAT FLOOR THAT COULD BE USED FOR MULTIPLE PURPOSES. 
          WELL, YOU SEE, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY WE SHOULD BE LOOKING DEEPER AT VALUE ENGINEERING. 
          WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE AN INDOOR TRACK AND A BUILDING THAT'S SUPER SIZED TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THAT TRACK? WHY NOT PUT THE TRACK OUTDOORS, SIR? TRAINING FOR US HAPPENS YEAR ROUND. 
          THERE ARE DAYS WHEN WE CAN'T HAVE, UH, THE GUYS OUTSIDE RUNNING 'CAUSE IT'S A HUNDRED PLUS DEGREES. 
          SO AS THE ENGINEERS WERE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS, THE TRACK ACTUALLY ORIGINATED ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND ALL THE FACILITIES WERE DOWNSTAIRS. 
          AND WHAT THEY DISCOVERED IS IF WE WERE TO REVERSE THAT, THE TRACK WOULD BE DOWNSTAIRS AND THAT BIG OPEN SPACE THAT WE HAVE COULD BE MULTI USED. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE AUDITORIUM BASICALLY GOT BIRTHED. 
          RIGHT NOW, I SPENT ABOUT $25,000 A YEAR JUST TO PAY FOR AUDITORIUM SPACES TO HOST GRADUATIONS. 
          THAT'S NOT PROMOTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          WE WILL NOW HAVE A FACILITY THAT WILL BE MULTI-USE TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT ALL THOSE ORGAN, ALL THOSE GRADUATIONS AND, UM, PROMOTIONS. 
          YEP. 
          YES, BUT AT WHAT COST? SEE, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN IN COSTS. 
          WE HAVE THEM FOR THE LONGER TERM PT STC PROJECT, IRONICALLY, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THEM FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER. 
          SO I CAN'T REALLY DIG INTO WHAT WE COULD VALUE ENGINEER HERE WITHOUT THAT KIND OF A COST ESTIMATE. 
          WHY IS THAT NOT AVAILABLE? IF WE ALREADY HAVE THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT DONE? WE CERTAINLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION. 
          UM, IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION AND THAT WAS PROBABLY AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PART, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE THAT, AND I COULD INCLUDE THAT IN A FRIDAY MEMO COMING UP. 
          YES, PLEASE ADD THAT TO A FRIDAY MEMO THAT'S ESSENTIAL TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROGRAM IS HERE. 
          AND WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PSTC, UH, I, 
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FIRST OF ALL, THIS NOTION OF PAYING THE AIRPORT, UH, FUND FOR MARKET RATE RENT, PATRICK, DO YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATE OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE? YES. 
          UH, SO OUR CURRENT MARKET RATE, WHICH IS FROM 2024, UM, AND WE WOULD PROBABLY EXPECT TO USE THAT IS 56 CENTS A SQUARE FOOT. 
          SO NOT KNOWING THE EXACT LAYOUTS AND WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE LEASED AND WOULDN'T, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THAT ENTIRE, UM, ACREAGE THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY 1.2, 1.4 MILLION, SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE WOULD BE THE MARKET RATE VALUE FOR ANNUAL RENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO , I, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPERATIVE TO LOCATE THIS ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, BUT THAT WOULD BE A COST SAVING MEASURE EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT WE NOW HAVE TO PAY THE AIRPORT THE COMMERCIAL RATE. 
          SO WE MIGHT AS WELL LOCATE IF WE'RE GOING TO ABSORB THAT KIND OF MONEY IN OUR BUDGET AT A, UH, EXPAND THE SEARCH TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 
          UH, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THIS LOCATED AT CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY RENT ON, UH, SUCH AS HENSLEY FIELD IS AN EXAMPLE. 
          UM, I I I JUST THINK IT'S A FALSE ECONOMY TO SAY, YES, WE'RE LOCATING A CITY PROPERTY, BUT WE HAVE TO PAY RENT FOR IT. 
          UM,  IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. 
          AND I, I SEE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR VALUE ENGINEERING IN THE PSTC PROJECT BUDGET, WHICH WE DO HAVE, UH, SUCH AS $55 MILLION FOR THE GUN RANGE. 
          I THINK, UH, SOMEONE SAID WE COULD DEFER THAT FOR LATER. 
          UM, A UH, SHOOT HOUSE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT $16 MILLION IS FOR, FOR A SIMULATED VILLAGE, ALMOST $19 MILLION FOR SOME FALSE FRONTED BUILDINGS. 
          I, I DON'T GET HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY SPEND $19 MILLION ON THAT. 
          SO, UH, I, I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED TODAY, BUT I, I THINK THAT ALSO HAS TO BE THE SUBJECT OF VALUE ENGINEERING IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REALISTIC COST ESTIMATES IN ORDER TO TARGET OUR FUNDRAISING E UH, EFFORTS IN THE FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR MADAM, CITY MANAGER. 
          MR. MAYOR. 
          I WAS GONNA ASK FOR STAFF TO ADDRESS, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS, UH, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. 
          UM, RESPECTFULLY, UH, REGARDING THE OTHER CITY ON SITES, UH, WHICH WAS A PART OF THE ANALYSIS, I THINK THERE WERE SEVERAL FACTORS THAT WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION, INCLUDING TIMING. 
          AGAIN, IT IS COUNCIL'S, UM, UM, UM, IT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, UM, REVIEW THOSE SITES AGAIN, BUT FOR US IT'S ABOUT THE TIMING PIECE. 
          UM, AND THAT THOSE OTHER SITES WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR US TO DELIVER, UM, THE SECOND PHASE. 
          UM, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DELAY. 
          AGAIN, THAT IS THE DECISION OF THIS BODY, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO HAVE STAFF ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY WE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT SITE AND THE WHOLE REVENUE, UH, COMPONENT AS IT RELATES TO DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT. 
          SO, SO OUR CURRENT LEASE IS A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. 
          UM, AND SO WHAT WE, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF USING DALLAS EXECUTIVE IS WE, UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DECIDED THIS IS FAA, UM, REQUIREMENT. 
          AND SO, UM, WHILE WE'RE CURRENTLY PAYING THAT AMOUNT, WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE SHIFTING THAT INVESTMENT INTO DALLAS EXECUTIVE, WHICH, UM, WE FELT WAS CONSISTENT WITH INITIATIVES TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP, UM, THAT ASSET AS WELL AS INVEST IN, IN, UM, THAT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, WE, WE UNDERSTAND YOUR PERSPECTIVE THAT IT PERHAPS ISN'T SAVING THOSE DOLLARS, BUT I THINK IT'S INVESTING THOSE DOLLARS RATHER THAN, THAN NOT INVESTING THOSE DOLLARS. 
          AND SO, UM, THE OFFSET OF THAT IS, OF COURSE, BY BEING ABLE TO, UM, PLACE THIS FACILITY ON DALLAS EXECUTIVE, UM, THE AVIATION DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE ENABLING INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH ALSO CREATES VALUE AND REDUCES THE, UM, THE DEBT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, THROUGH A BOND PROGRAM OR OTHER OTHER MEANS OF FINANCING. 
          SO THOSE WERE, UM, FACTORS THAT WENT INTO OUR THINKING. 
          UM, CERTAINLY WITH RESPECT TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, THE PRICING OF THESE FACILITIES, THESE ARE SPECIALIZED FACILITIES. 
          THEY, THEY'RE NOT SOMETHING THAT GETS BUILT EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME. 
          UM, I THINK THAT WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR TRAINING NEEDS 
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ARE. 
          UM, THE EVOC FACILITY THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY USING IS WELL BELOW STANDARD. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED IN EVERY CASE IS A STANDARD TYPE OF TRAINING OF THIS TYPE FOR THIS SIZE OF, UH, DEPARTMENT. 
          AND, UM, AND SO THEREFORE PERHAPS WE MIGHT CONSIDER PHASING THE SIMULATED VILLAGE OR SOME OTHER WAYS TO REDUCE THE UPFRONT COSTS. 
          BUT, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY'RE TRAINERS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE NEEDS ARE. 
          AND THESE FACILITIES ARE 20 YEARS OUT. 
          THEY'RE NOT FOR JUST TOMORROW. 
          AND SO WE FACTORED THAT INTO OUR PROGRAMMING. 
          CHIEF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING? LOOK, EVERYONE KNOWS I'VE BEEN HERE ONE YEAR AND I'M GOING AROUND TELLING EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE THE VERY BEST POLICE DEPARTMENT OF THE UNITED STATES. 
          AND I WILL TELL YOU, ONCE I GOT HIRED, I HAD TO GO QUALIFY DAY ONE THAT I GOT HERE AND I WAS EMBARRASSED OF OUR FIRING RANGE. 
          AND THAT WAS MY FIRST DAY ON THE JOB. 
          I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS HAD A FIRING RANGE THAT LOOKED THE WAY IT LOOKED. 
          AND I WENT BACK IMMEDIATELY AND SAID, THIS IS REALLY THE CITY OF DALLAS'S FIRING RANGE. 
          AND EVERYONE SAID YES. 
          AND THEN I WENT OUT TO THE ACADEMY AND I COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT I SAW FOR THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. 
          AND ME BEING SO EXCITED TO GET THIS JOB GOING AROUND SAYING THAT WE'RE DALLAS AND THAT'S THE FACILITY. 
          THEN I STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH AND STARTED READING, AND I SAW IN MAY, I THINK IT WAS MAY 24TH, 25TH, SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA OF 1987 THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET A NEW RANGE. 
          THAT'S THE DATE THAT I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL, NOT JUST A NEW RANGE OF NEW ACADEMY ON THAT DAY. 
          THAT'S WHEN I GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL. 
          AND NOW I'M AN OLD MAN AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE A NEW FACILITY IN DALLAS. 
          AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE THIS, BUT OBVIOUSLY CRIME'S GOING DOWN, RECRUITING'S GOING UP. 
          FOR US TO MAINTAIN THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE FACILITIES UP TO PAR WITH SOME OF THESE OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS. 
          YOU HAVE A VERY, VERY GOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE, AND IT'S IN BLACK AND WHITE, DOCUMENTED AND SHOWN, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE ANYWHERE NEAR THE FACILITIES THAT OTHERS HAVE. 
          AND I'M GONNA CONTINUE GOING AROUND TELLING EVERYBODY, WE'RE DALLAS, WE'RE ONE OF THE BEST. 
          BUT WHEN THEY COME TO OUR FACILITIES, IT'S A LAUGH. 
          IT'S, IT'S A LAUGH, IT'S LAUGHTER WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT. 
          WE HAVE TO BRING THOSE STANDARDS UP TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'RE RECRUITING AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL FOR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, REALLY ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA CONTINUE. 
          IF WE CAN'T COME UP TO STANDARDS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WE'RE LACKING AND IT'S BAD. 
          AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO GO OUT, I WOULD LOVE TO WALK IN AND SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AS A POLICE ACADEMY AND THE SHOOTING RANGE. 
          IT, IT JUST SHOULD NOT BE LIKE THAT IN A CITY LIKE DALLAS. 
          THANK YOU, UH, CHIEF, I'M GONNA GO, UH, VIRTUAL TO, UH, CHAIR MENDELSON. 
          WELL, FIRST I'M GONNA SAY THANK YOU CHIEF FOR WHAT YOU JUST SAID BECAUSE I DIDN'T COME TO THIS PRESENTATION THINKING I WOULD HAVE TO BE ADVOCATING FOR THE NEED FOR THIS, UM, TRAINING FACILITY. 
          IT'S SO SELF-EVIDENT TO ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN THERE. 
          AND THE CONTRAST OF, FRANKLY, CITY HALL, WHICH IS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE COMPARED TO WHAT WE SEE AT THE ACADEMY IN A GUN RANGE THAT LOOKS WORSE THAN ANY BOY SCOUT GUN RAGE I'VE EVER BEEN TO. 
          AND I HAVE THREE EAGLE SCOUTS. 
          WHAT WAS ALSO MENTIONED IS THE DPD PROPERTY ROOM. 
          AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU THE FIRST TIME I SAW IT WAS, I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO, IT'S HORRENDOUS. 
          IT MIGHT BE THE WORST BUILDING THAT THE CITY HAS, AND I WON'T SAY A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE IT MIGHT PUT PEOPLE AT RISK THERE, BUT THERE ARE SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUES AND IT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 'CAUSE I WENT THAT IT GOT ADDED INTO THIS DISCUSSION, BUT THAT IS PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. 
          SO AGAIN, CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE POINT. 
          MANY OF THE PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT A POLICE ACADEMY HAS BEEN IMAGINED FOR DALLAS FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. 
          AND THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS VIEW THIS AS THE MOST IMPORTANT PRIORITY FOR OUR CITY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          NOW, WHEN THE $50 MILLION 
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WAS ADDED TO THE BOND, I VERY VOCALLY SAID, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN A MEETING I GOT YELLED AT BY LL ATKINS AND OUR CITY MANAGER SAYING, IT WASN'T MY PLACE TO SAY THAT. 
          WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, HERE WE ARE, BECAUSE WE NEVER PUT IN THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BEGIN WITH. 
          EVEN PLANO WITH LESS THAN 300,000 RESIDENTS HAD 51 MILLION IN THEIR BOND FOR THEIR POLICE ACADEMY. 
          SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A, A PRORATA AMOUNT FOR THE, THE CITIZENRY, THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS WE HAVE, WE DIDN'T PUT THE RIGHT AMOUNT IN TO BEGIN WITH. 
          WHETHER THAT WAS 'CAUSE OF POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS OR OTHER THINGS, IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          NOW'S THE TIME TO CORRECT THAT. 
          WE NEED THAT MONEY AND WE NEED IT TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT. 
          THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY IMAGINED TO BE ONE SITE WITH ONE COST. 
          WE ALL SAT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION WHERE IT WAS BEING DIVIDED INTO TWO. 
          I WASN'T FOR THAT. 
          BUT HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE SECOND LOCATION. 
          SO FOR THE FIRST LOCATION, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED THAT TRACK TO BE INDOORS BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE EXTREME HEAT IN DALLAS, IT'S ALSO THE EXTREME COLD AND RAIN. 
          AND WE ASK A LOT PHYSICALLY OF THE OFFICERS TO TRAIN EVERY SINGLE DAY TO BE RUNNING. 
          SO YES, THEY DO NEED TO HAVE A SHADED, UM, LOCATION. 
          UM, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE DON'T HAVE NUMBERS. 
          IF THERE'S A CONSIDERATION OF MOVING THE 9 1 1 CENTER, THIS IS A MASSIVE OPERATION AND EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 
          THERE CAN'T BE ANY HICCUPS. 
          AND THE BACKUP LEVELS THAT WE NEED, THE BACKUP OF THE BACKUP OF THE BACKUP ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. 
          NOT TO MENTION THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S INVOLVED FOR ELECTRICITY AND FIBER, UM, AND, AND ALL THE TECHNOLOGY THAT GOES INTO IT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS AND WE NEED TO HAVE THEM AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD DO WITH CITY HALL. 
          UM, AS FAR AS THE AIRPORT RENT, UM, I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO NOW, THE AIRPORT WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO DO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          UM, THE ENABLING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND WHAT'S THAT ESTIMATED AMOUNT? UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY ESTIMATING THAT, UM, AT 15 MILLION. 
          SO A $15 MILLION INVESTMENT THAT REALLY WON'T COME OFF OUR BOOKS. 
          THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THAT NUMBER WAS MENTIONED. 
          I'M NOT AT ALL INTERESTED IN A PHASED APPROACH. 
          I'M NOT IN A ALL IN APPROACH. 
          UM, WE ARE STILL PAYING A MILLION DOLLARS FOR WHAT IS ARGUABLY THE WORST POLICE ACADEMY PHYSICALLY IN AMERICA FOR THE SIZE OF AGENCY WE ARE. 
          AND THE CONTRAST WITH THE HIGH QUALITY PROFESSIONAL WORK THAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT BUILDING IS SHOCKING. 
          I KNOW I TOLD OUR FORMER MANAGER THAT IF I WAS A CADET AND I PULLED UP AT THAT POLICE ACADEMY, I WOULD PICK UP MY PHONE AND I WOULD CALL ANY NUMBER OF AGENCIES THAT WERE ALSO SEEKING MY EMPLOYMENT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S TALK. 
          BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANNA BE. 
          UM, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BLACKMAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND UM, I'M GONNA TAKE A COUPLE OF STEPS BACK. 
          UM, 'CAUSE I'M STILL WONDERING, I KNOW WE'VE HAD WHAT, THREE OR FOUR, UM, BRIEFINGS ON THIS? CORRECT. 
          WHY ARE WE STILL DOING TWO LOCATIONS? IS IT BECAUSE THAT WE DECIDED THAT BECAUSE OF CERTAIN THINGS HAD TO BE OFFSITE FROM U-T-D-U-N-T-D, COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMAN? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. 
          IN FACT, I WAS GOING TO, UM, JUMP IN AT SOME POINT AND TALK ABOUT THE WAY WE LOOKED AT THE DELIVERY AND I CALLED IT A PROJECT AND IT'S GOT TWO COMPONENTS. 
          WHEN WE CAME BACK AND SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL LAST YEAR, SOME OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE HAD ON THE CAMPUS, UH, AT THAT TIME, UM, IN WORKING THROUGH THE, UM, THE, UH, THE AGREEMENT THAT WE WERE, WE ENDED UP MOVING FORWARD, UH, FROM A SPACING PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS THE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THAT COULD BE ON THE COLLEGE CAMPUS, UH, VERSUS COULD NOT BE. 
          AND SO AT THAT POINT, WE WERE TRULY LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT BEST POSSIBLE WAY TO DELIVER, UH, A COMPANION FACILITY STILL WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY. 
          AND I 
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THINK WE CAME UP WITH KIND OF THE, UH, THE MILEAGE, YOU KNOW, TIMEFRAME TO GET THERE. 
          AND SO THIS HAS REALLY BEEN ABOUT THE APPROACH THAT WE HAD TO TAKE. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL IS VERY WELL AWARE THAT WE CAME BACK AND THE THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT WE NEEDED AT THE CAMPUS HAD ACTUALLY BEEN REDUCED AND WE WORKED TO GET THE NUMBER BACK UP TO WHERE WE ARE, UH, TODAY AND HOW THAT AGREEMENT MOVED FORWARD. 
          SO A LOT OF THAT WAS, THERE WAS A VISION ORIGINALLY, UM, BUT ALL THE PIECES OF THAT VISION ON ONE SITE TRULY HAD NOT BEEN DEVELOPED. 
          AND IT DEFINITELY CREATED THE CHALLENGE FOR US IN HOW WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH THE UNIVERSITY. 
          SO THE COMPONENTS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW FOR THE PUBLIC TRA PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, COMPLEX ARE REALLY THE THINGS THAT WE COULD NOT, UH, POSITION ON THE COLLEGE CAMPUS. 
          AND I'LL LET, UM, THE TEAM TALK MORE DIRECTLY ABOUT THOSE, LIKE THE GUN RANGE, THE, UM, THE ASSIMILATED, UH, VILLAGE. 
          THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WE COULD NOT DO ON CAMPUS. 
          DO IT ON THE CAMPUS. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          BUT PLEASE JUMP IN AND SPEAK TO THOSE TWO. 
          WELL, I, I THINK WE'VE, WE DID, I'M JUST ESTABLISHING THANK YOU. 
          I'M, I'M JUST ESTABLISHING TO THE POINT OF, I'M GOING BACK TO WHERE I THINK IT ALL NEEDS TO BE ON ONE CAMPUS. 
          AGAIN, , THAT'S THE ONLY POINT FOR THAT. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          IS THAT I GET THAT WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ALL GOING TO UNT, THEN WE SPLIT IT UP AND I THINK WE HAD A BRIEFING AND I'M JUST REITERATING THAT I JUST FEEL WE'RE TRYING TO PUT A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE BY ACCOMMODATING WHATEVER OF KEEPING THIS PERSON HAPPY OR FULFILLING THIS AGREEMENT. 
          AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE VERY FRAGMENTED IN OUR APPROACH, WHICH THEN MAKES COSTS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TWO CONSTRUCTION SITES. 
          AND SO GOING BACK TO, OKAY, I JUST FEEL THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THE UNTD CAMPUS, THE, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING. 
          UM, HOW MUCH WE, WE HAVE A DELTA OF 81, IS THAT CORRECT? 81 MILLION ? YES. 
          THAT THAT IS CORRECT. 
          BASED ON THE CURRENT ESTIMATES. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND SO WE ARE PUTTING OUR 50 MILLION TO THAT CAMPUS, CORRECT? YES. 
          HOW, AND THAT IS A STATE FACILITY. 
          HOW DO WE GET TO DO A INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT, A BUILDING WITH BOND DOLLARS THAT WE DON'T, UH, OWN THE GROUND? UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          WE HAVE A GROUND LEASE FOR, UM, FOR 40 YEARS. 
          AND DID YOU SAY 40 OR FOUR? 40. 
          OKAY. 
          FOUR ZERO. 
          UM, WITH SOME OPTION YEARS IN THE, IN THE LEASE. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF 40? UM, I'M, UM, JENNY, IF YOU CAN REMIND ME HOW MANY OPTION YEARS WE HAVE? YEAH. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, FOUR, UM, FOUR SETS OF 10 YEAR OPTIONS THAT WE CAN, THAT WILL BE ON THE CAMPUS. 
          SO WE COULD BE ON THE CAMPUS FOR, FOR 80 YEARS. 
          AND IT'S AT THE CITY'S, UH, DISCRETION IF WE WOULD WANNA LEAVE. 
          SO THAT'S, SO DO WE PICK UP OUR BUILDING AND LEAVE? NO, THE, THE, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD STAY. 
          SO WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION ON SOMETHING, ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY IN THE HOPES OF THAT WE CAN STAY THERE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A LEASE AGREEMENT, IT COULD BE TERMINATED. 
          SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE A $81 MILLION DELTA, THIS IS ON A STATE FACILITY, THEY'RE GIVING US 25 MILLION, ISN'T THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR MORE INVESTMENT, IS WHAT I'M ASKING ON THAT? IF I COULD JUST RESPOND TO THE, TO THE LEASE QUESTION. 
          SO I'M SORRY, IF I COULD JUST RESPOND TO THE LEASE QUESTION. 
          SO THERE, THE, THERE IS NO TERMINATION CLAUSE, THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR UNTD, UH, TO TERMINATE THE LEASE AT THE END OF END OF THE EXTENSIONS. 
          IT IS OUR, UM, OBLIGATION OR, UM, OUR ABILITY TO GO AND TO EXTEND THOSE LEASES, UM, WITHOUT NECESSARILY, UM, HAVING UNTD UH, SAY YOU CAN'T BE HERE. 
          IT'S, IT'S OUR AND SO, UM, THE 25 MILLION, IS IT RESTRICTED FUNDS FROM THE STATE? DOES IT HAVE TO BE AT UNTD? YES, MA'AM. 
          SO, UM, IN OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE STATE'S FUNDING, UH, WAS ACTUALLY TIED TO THE PARTNERSHIP ON THE CAMPUS AT UNT, UM, DALLAS. 
          AND THAT, UM, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THE PROJECT OFF CAMPUS, THOSE FUNDS WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO I DO WANNA, UM, TO RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENT REGARDING ADDITIONAL FUNDS FROM THE STATE AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THIS AND THE TWO COMPONENTS. 
          UM, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO EXHAUST ALL POSSIBLE WAYS TO CLOSE THE GAP ON THE PROJECT PIECE OF THIS THAT'S ON THE CAMPUS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO THE ADDITIONAL 5 MILLION, THAT WAS BECAUSE OF OUR EFFORTS LAST YEAR IN CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE STATE. 
          UM, AND WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE WORKING, UM, TO CONTINUE TO FIND OTHER WAYS OF GETTING THEM TO COME EVEN MORE TO THE TABLE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT REGARDING THAT. 
          WELCOME IN. 
          BECAUSE IT'S THE UNT SYSTEM. 
          I KNOW THAT THEY WERE CUTTING BACK, UM, I GUESS AT THE MAIN CAMPUS, AT THEIR FLAGSHIP, THEY'VE HAD SOME BUDGET ISSUES. 
          WILL 
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THIS AFFECT ANYTHING GOING FORWARD FROM OUR END? WILL THEIR BUDGET ISSUES? NO. 
          NO. 
          THEIR BUDGET ISSUES DON'T IMPACT THIS. 
          UM, CAN, UH, REAL QUICK, CAN YOU TELL ME DOLPHIN ROAD, HOW BIG IS THAT CAMPUS? THAT IT'S, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 40 ACRES. 
          IT WAS PRETTY JUST SAY FOUR ZERO AGAIN. 
          FOUR ZERO IN, IN THAT RANGE. 
          AND SO, AND WE ARE REQUIRING 50, IS THAT CORRECT? 53 WOULD BE A MINIMUM IF ALL THE BLOCKS KIND OF WENT OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          LINED UP PERFECTLY. 
          UM, BACK TO THE FINANCING PART OF THIS, UM, JACK, I'M GONNA ASK YOU, WHAT IS OUR INSURANCE, OUR INSURANCE, OUR INTEREST RATES THAT YOU'VE CALCULATED FOR THIS? SO WE HAVE BEEN ASSUMING THAT, UH, WE, THE COST OF BORROWING IS 5%. 
          SO YOU'RE STILL DOING 5% YES. 
          ON THIS ONE AS WELL? YES. 
          UM, AND IT'S HA AND SO WE'LL BE ASKING THE VOTERS FOR 250 MILLION AND THEN THAT ADDS WHAT, EIGHT, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THAT ADD TO THAT, THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY? I I'LL HAVE TO GET THE CALCULATION FOR YOU ON THAT. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A LITTLE SPREADSHEET THERE. 
          DON'T GET TO ME BEFORE THE END OF THIS . 
          I I'LL GET YOU THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT 'CAUSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS WHAT IS THE COST OF MONEY? YES MA'AM. 
          BECAUSE WE'RE, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT WE COULD GO INTO RECESSION, INTEREST RATES COULD GO UP. 
          SO HOW MUCH IS THE COST OF TO BORROW FUNDS? SO WHILE YOU'RE SAYING IT'S 250, IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE WHAT, 3 25? BUT YOU CAN, YES, I KNOW YOU HAVE THAT LITTLE MOST LIKELY, BUT I WILL GET YOU THAT. 
          NOW. 
          WHEN WE SOLD, UH, BONDS LAST NOVEMBER, THE INTEREST RATE WAS 3.62% ON OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. 
          BUT WE'VE BEEN CONTINUING TO ASSUME A HIGHER RATE AT THIS POINT. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          AND SO I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW MUCH THE COST TO BORROW, BUDDY IS I, I'LL GET YOU THAT NUMBER. 
          UM, AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND YOU CAN, IS THAT DOING THIS BOND REPRIORITIZES ALL OF OUR 24 BOND PROJECTS, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? THAT WOULD BE A COUNCIL DECISION TO DETERMINE THE PRIORITY OF THE PROJECTS. 
          OKAY. 
          IF, UH, THIS IS THE TOP PRIORITY FOR THE COUNCIL, THEN IT WOULD POTENTIALLY, UH, RESULT IN HAVING TO DELAY SOME PROJECTS THAT WERE PLANNED IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          NOT THAT THEY'RE CANCELED, IT JUST MOVES THEM BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UH, COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMAN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS THAT TOO. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE PREPARING TO PROVIDE IS TO SHOW YOU FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS YEAR, WHAT PROJECTS OF COURSE ARE ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE, THE ONES THAT WE PROJECTED. 
          'CAUSE WE ALWAYS LIKE TO LOOK AT THOSE SHOVEL READY PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO AND WHAT WAS ALREADY IN THE FORECAST COMING UP. 
          SO THAT WAY YOU'D HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF THOSE PROJECTS. 
          AND THEN IF THERE WOULD BE ANY IMPACTS, WE WOULD BE GETTING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO SHIFT IF THAT'S YOUR DESIRE. 
          BUT WE DO WANNA BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU THE FULL LIST OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY ON DECK FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND JENNY, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A PROJECT PRIORITY LIST, NOT, NOT A PROJECT PRIORITY. 
          THERE IS, UM, PROJECTS WITHIN THIS, UH, PROJECT, I GUESS, I DUNNO WHAT ELSE TO CALL IT. 
          THERE IS THE LIST THAT Y'ALL HAVE THAT AND YOU JUST HAVE NOT, IT WAS NOT IN THIS PROGRAM, IN THIS, UH, BRIEFING. 
          SO WE HAVE THE, THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE, THE BUILDING COMPONENTS AND, AND THE PRICING FOR THAT. 
          WE, BUT THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE BRIEFING, BUT, AND, BUT YET HAS OUR OWNER'S REP AND DPD RECONCILED THAT TO DETERMINE PHASING, I MEAN OUR SEQUENCING, LIKE THIS IS, I I LIKE WHEN YOU DO YOUR OWN HOUSE, I WANT MY BATHROOM BEFORE I GET MY KITCHEN DONE OR WHATEVER. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT EXERCISE HAPPENED BECAUSE IT MAY BE TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM EVERYTHING FOR 250 MILLION THE MARKET. 
          I MEAN THE, IT IS JUST GONNA BE THAT WAY. 
          RIGHT? SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE, AND WE'VE WORKED WITH DPD THROUGHOUT THIS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT THE BASIC ACADEMY AND THE BASIC REALITY BASED TRAINING IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IN TERMS OF, OF WHAT GETS BUILT FIRST. 
          SO, SO BEYOND THAT, I, UM, WE HAVE, FROM THERE IT GOES TO THE, UM, I THINK THE TRAINING PAVILION JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET EVERYBODY OFF OF, UM, OUT OF THE REDBIRD SITE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE WOULD MOVE ON TO THE IN-SERVICE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO FOR THE, UM, THE WAY THE SITUATION SITS RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE TO LEASE THE REDBIRD SITE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN EVOC OPTION RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE OUR FIRST PRIORITY. 
          THE FIRST PRIORITY IS THE EVOX. 
          SECOND WOULD BE THE, UH, PISTOL RANGE, UM, OR THE OUTDOOR TRAINING VILLAGE, PROBABLY THE OUTDOOR TRAINING VILLAGE. 
          SINCE WE CURRENTLY HAVE A PISTOL RANGE, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE CONTINUING TO PUT BANDAIDS AND POUR MONEY INTO THIS FACILITY THAT IS VERY SUBPAR. 
          SO THAT IS CLOSELY FOLLOWED BY THE EVOC, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, SO I, I AGREE WE NEED A BETTER FINANCIAL PICTURE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE LEVERAGING THE FARM, BUT WE'RE ABOUT TO SELL OUR FARM . 
          SO I'M, THAT KIND OF SCARES 
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ME. 
          AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS BETTER AS A BIG PICTURE BECAUSE WE HAVE DIFFERENT FUNDING STREAMS COMING IN FOR DIFFERENT, UH, PROJECTS. 
          AND IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION, UH, TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GIVING YOU POLITICAL DECISION DECISIONS, BECAUSE I WOULDN'T WANNA BE ON THE 2026 BALLOT. 
          THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. 
          BUT, UM, THEN MY, MY QUESTION IS, OR MY STATEMENT IS WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING, UH, KINDA LIKE YOU DO AT YOUR OWN HOUSE, RIGHT? I NEED TO KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING'S COMING FROM AND WHERE ARE THINGS GOING, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M GETTING A FRAGMENTED PICTURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHAIR JOHNSON. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR PRO TIM. 
          I SERVE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT LISTENING TO OFFICER HERRERA SPEAK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT. 
          WHAT I DON'T SUPPORT IS THE DISRESPECT THAT MY COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN, MEMBER, COLLEAGUE HAS ENCOUNTERED. 
          THIS SEEMS LIKE TO BE A PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND THE SOUTHERN, UH, SECTOR OF DALLAS THAT WE DON'T BE COMMUNICATED WITH. 
          I WENT THROUGH THE SAME THING ON THE PARK BOARD, NOT TOO, NOT PARK DEPARTMENT NOT TOO LONG AGO. 
          THIS IS A, THIS IS A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR. 
          SPOKE WITH COUNCILMAN BASADUR OF YOUR TEXT AND SAID THE SAME THING. 
          THIS IS A PROBLEM AND WE HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY, TOO MANY DOLLARS. 
          AND COMMUNICATION IS NOT COMPLICATED. 
          IT'S A PART OF THE JOB, YET WE'RE MAKING BIG PLANS, BUT NOT HAVING BIG COMMUNICATIONS. 
          THAT'S THE ISSUE. 
          SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHY COUNCILMAN GRACIE C FEELS THE WAY IT FEELS. 
          AND I'VE SERVED AS A TRUSTEE AND WE WENT THROUGH THIS AS A TRUSTEE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE DEMAND RESPECT AND COMMUNICATION FOR A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN DELAYED AND IT CAN BE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD, DOWN THE ROAD SO MANY TIMES. 
          SO ON ONE HAND WE HAVE THIS NEED AND FAILURE, BUT THE OTHER HAND WE HAVE ANOTHER NEED AND YET FAILURE. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, I APPRECIATE THE APOLOGY TO HIM. 
          WHY WERE THERE NO COMMUNICATION CONCERNING THE COUNCIL MEMBER SO HE CAN GO DO HIS JOB AND SPEAK WITH HIS COMMUNITY AND GET THE SUPPORT THAT HE NEEDS AND THE FEEDBACK THAT HE NEEDS CONCERNING THIS VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT. 
          I'LL JUMP IN. 
          THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR, UM, YOUR SENTIMENTS. 
          AND I WILL NEVER LET MY TEAM TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, UM, FOR NOT COMMUNICATING BECAUSE THE BUCK STOPS WITH ME. 
          AND I KNOW THAT I'VE SHARED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE, THAT I THINK THAT AS WE WENT INTO THE ANALYSIS OF THE FEASIBILITY AROUND DIFFERENT POTENTIAL SITES AS THE TEAM WORKED ON THAT, UM, KEEPING THAT, UM, BETWEEN THE TEAM AND NOT PULLING, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER IN WAS A FAILURE ON OUR PART. 
          AND SO I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT NOT HAPPENING. 
          UH, WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE, UH, OF ENGAGING WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS EARLY ON, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S A PROJECT THAT IS IN A PART OF OUR CITY THAT TRULY HAS BEEN UNDER CHAMPIONED. 
          AND SO, UM, I KNOW THAT THE TEAM, UM, UM, MISSED ONE OF THOSE BOXES. 
          UM, WE, UH, DID NOT DO AN INTENTIONALLY COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE, OR COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON, I THINK BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO TRY TO AT LEAST GET THE FEASIBILITY COMPONENTS BACK. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH THAT HAS OCCURRED. 
          UM, AND GOING FORWARD, MY COMMITMENT, UM, AS WELL AS, UM, THE WAY, UM, I WANT YOU TO HOLD US TO THAT STANDARD OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AND WE'RE DOING IT IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN DEFINITELY ADDRESS CONCERNS WITHIN YOUR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS AND THAT THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY, UH, TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE'RE SHARING INFORMATION SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. 
          UM, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, MS. UM, OGGI APOLOGIZED, UM, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY DONE. 
          BUT THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE COMMENTS ABOUT, UH, THE PERCEPTION AND WE DEFINITELY WILL CONTINUE TO WORK, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR PART. 
          UM, OFTENTIMES OVER COMMUNICATING IS THE BEST, UM, ANSWER AND WE'LL DEFINITELY DO BETTER IN MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS HAPPENING. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND I DO APPRECIATE, UM, THAT FEEDBACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CITY MANAGER AND GOOD LEADERSHIP TAKES RESPONSIBILITY EVEN IF IT'S NOT, UH, ON THEIR FAILURE. 
          I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN GRACIE. 
          HE'S NOT HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE WITH FAILED COMMUNICATION, ALTHOUGH HE'S HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE AND WE ALL ARE THE OVERALL PROJECT. 
          SO I CANNOT SAY THAT YOU DID NOT FAIL BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU SINCE I GOT HERE AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE GREAT COMMUNICATION. 
          SO THIS IS A FAILURE ON YOUR STAFF AND I WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR. 
          UH, JACK, 
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IF YOU CAN COME BACK, I NEED, IF YOU CAN CLEAR SOMETHING UP FOR ME OR GIMME BETTER UNDERSTANDING. 
          UM, I THINK COUNCILMAN BA ASKED YOU WHAT KIND OF, UH, IMPACT THIS IS WILL MAKE CONCERNING, UH, THE UPCOMING BOND. 
          AND I WAS TRYING TO TAKE SOME NOTES AND GET AN UNDERSTANDING. 
          SO COULD YOU GIMME A BREAKDOWN OF THAT? WHAT KIND OF, UH, IMPACT THIS WOULD HAVE, WHETHER IT BE A, A GOOD ONE OR A NEGATIVE. 
          I THINK YOU SAID THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE, WE T TACKLE THIS ISSUE, IT WOULDN'T GO INTO BOND, A FUTURE BOND, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE TACKLING IT NOW, BUT WHAT KIND OF BREAKDOWN THIS WOULD BE? WHAT KIND OF, UH, IMPACT WILL, WILL THIS, UH, HAPPEN? GOOD OR NEGATIVE? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          JACK ARLAND, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. 
          UM, IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A $250 MILLION ADDITIONAL BOND PROGRAM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY TO FINISH BOTH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX, IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT OF DELAYING SOME PROJECTS IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM BY A YEAR AND CHANGING THE FIVE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PROGRAM INTO A SIX YEAR IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND THEN IN THE 2029 BOND PROGRAM, IT WOULD REDUCE IT BY ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FROM 1.25 BILLION TO 1.15 BILLION BASED UPON ALL OF MY CURRENT ASSUMPTIONS. 
          SO IT'S, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT. 
          WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEEK VOTER AUTHORIZATION. 
          IT JUST IMPACTS, UH, OTHER PROJECTS AND THE TIMING OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. 
          SO THE OTHER PROJECTS BE DELAYED, THEY WOULD, NOTHING WOULD BE CANCELED. 
          IT WOULD JUST DELAY PROJECTS. 
          WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO DELIVER ON THE PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN 2024. 
          BUT, UH, IF THIS IS A HIGHER PRIORITY AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME OF COUNSEL, IT WOULD PUSH SOME OF THOSE OTHER PROJECTS OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT, THAT, THAT IS A CONCERN. 
          I KNOW COUNCILMAN BASURA SAID THAT EARLIER. 
          THAT IS A CONCERN. 
          BUT WE ALSO, I UNDERSTAND AGAIN, I THINK THE, THE HISTORY LESSON THAT I GOT TODAY WAS THIS WAS PROMISED BACK IN THE NINETIES, EIGHTIES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THIS WAS BACK IN 1987. 
          SO IT'S BEEN DELAYED SINCE THEN. 
          I THINK I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AT OW HOMES AT THAT TIME,  WITH THIS. 
          SO WE HAVE A HISTORY OF WE THIS DELAY, THIS DELAY AND MY CONCERN IS, UH, THE CAN THAT'S BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR A LONG TIME AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. 
          AND SOMETIME ADDRESSING THESE, UH, MATTERS ARE DIFFICULT, BUT IF WE CONTINUE TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, NOTHING WILL BE COMPLETED. 
          AND SO, UM, YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT AND I WANT TO THANK YOU, UH, TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR, UH, SPEAKING, BUT AGAIN, UH, THIS IS NOT A FAILURE ON HER AND I JUST DON'T BELIEVE SOME OF THESE FAILURE AND COMMUNICATIONS IS HAPPENING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN IN THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN. 
          BUT WE SHOW OUR EXPERIENCE IN A LOT OF IT IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF TOWN. 
          AND THAT MUST STOP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, FIVE MINUTES. 
          UH, THANK YOU, JIM. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO, UH, COMPLIMENT, UH, ALL THE FUNDRAISING TEAM THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY TRYING TO RAISE SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS, AND THE AMOUNTS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS PHENOMENAL. 
          AND, UH, AND IT'S ALSO INDICATING THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN TRYING TO GET COMMITMENTS. 
          UH, I THINK THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT OUR DONORS, THAT OUR PUBLIC REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT A, UH, A, UH, UH, PROJECT OF CHOICE. 
          THIS IS A PROJECT OF ABSOLUTE NEED. 
          AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN WAIT. 
          THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DELAYED. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO START NOW AND EVERY DAY. 
          EVERY EVERY MINUTE IS MONEY THAT'S GONNA COST US MORE. 
          IT'S GOING TO IMPACT, UH, UH, TERRIBLY ON OUR, UH, UH, ABILITY TO RECRUIT, THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED TO, TO OUR CITIZENS. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS, IN MY OPINION, IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AS A PRIORITY, IS TAKING CARE OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR FOLKS. 
          AND WE CAN'T DO THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT FOLKS IN THE, IN THE SADDLES HELPING POLICE IN PROVIDING SAFETY TO US. 
          THIS IS NOT A CHOICE, NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, WE'VE GOT $150 MILLION, RIGHT? WE'VE GOT THAT MUCH MONEY. 
          WE'VE GOT BOND MONEY, WE'VE GOT SOME STATE GRANTS, AND WE'VE GOT YOUR 70 OR $80 MILLION. 
          MY QUESTION IS, WHAT CAN WE 
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BUILD FOR $150 MILLION? AND MY GUESS IS WE CAN BUILD A LOT. 
          WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD IT ALL, BUT WE CAN BUILD A LOT OF IT. 
          AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO BUILD FIRST? THE PRIORITY IS THE BASIC TRAINING CENTER AND THE, THE, UH, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, THE PAVILION, UH, PRACTICE DEAL OR WHATEVER YOU'RE DEALING IS, WOULD WHAT? WOULD $150 MILLION TAKE CARE OF THOSE TWO ITEMS? SO, UM, I KNOW IT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE BASIC, AND IF YOU COULD GIMME JUST GENERALLY WE'D BE, WE'D BE PRETTY CLOSE. 
          WE WOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE. 
          OKAY? THAT DOESN'T, UH, THAT DOESN'T ELIMINATE THE ABILITY TO DO THE OTHER, THE OTHER PROJECTS. 
          BUT WHAT IT DOES IS IT GETS US IN THE GROUND. 
          WE'RE GETTING OUR STUFF DONE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DECIDE IF WE CAN AFFORD TO BUILD THE REST OF IT, AND WE'LL TRY TO RAISE THE MONEY FOR IT. 
          WE'LL GET IT. 
          BUT IF YOU GOT, WE GOT THE MONEY IN THE BANK, LET'S GO. 
          WE GOTTA GET THE PROJECT DONE. 
          WE GOTTA GET IT DONE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON, IS GETTING THIS PROJECT STARTED. 
          NOW, UH, I I'M, I'M GETTING CONVOLUTED HERE, CONFLATED HERE BECAUSE OF THE, THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE EXTRA, UM, THE PSDC AND THE, AND THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, UH, TRAINING CENTER. 
          THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE DEALS IN MY MIND. 
          LET'S GET THE EMERGENCY DEAL DONE, WHICH IS THE TRAIN, THE TRAINING CENTER. 
          UM, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE OTHER PROJECT. 
          THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES TO BREAK UP THAT PROJECT, I WOULD THINK. 
          I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO SOME OF OUR ACCOUNT, UH, SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AND BE MORE PROACTIVE IN FIGURING OUT OTHER ALTERNATIVES. 
          I'M NOT PREPARED TO SAY THAT ABSOLUTELY WE HAVE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE AIRPORT, BUT THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY POTENTIALLY. 
          AND, AND IT, AND AGAIN, WE'RE NOT AT THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          WHERE ARE WE GONNA GO? I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PHASE IT IN, WHAT'S THE PLAN? UM, AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          UH, SO LOOK, UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO, TO THE, TO ALL THE DISCUSSION HERE, WE'VE GOT TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD. 
          LET'S, LET'S GET THE MONEY THAT WE'VE GOT IN THE BANK AND SPEND IT ON THE PROJECT. 
          AND I'M TELLING, AND MY, MY, MY REQUEST, MY DEMAND IS THAT OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT PEOPLE AND OUR SUPERVISORY PEOPLE, YOU BETTER LOOK AT THE NUMBERS HERE. 
          AND I WANT TO GET THIS PROJECT TO BE TIGHT. 
          I WANT IT TO BE COST EFFECTIVE. 
          I DON'T WANT TO BE WASTING MONEY. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND AS, AS SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, VALUE ENGINEERING IS NOT JUST A WORD. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL NEED TO BE DOING. 
          YOU NEED TO BE DESIGN US A PROJECT THAT'S, THAT DOES WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN A COST EFFECTIVE WAY, AND LET'S GET IT DONE. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT OUR BIG, OUR BIG FINANCIAL SITUATION. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR DIFFERENT FINANCING. 
          WE COULD PRIVATIZE STUFF. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN MONETIZE STUFF. 
          WE CAN COMBINE STUFF. 
          WE CAN BORROW MONEY. 
          THAT'S NOT THE DISCUSSION HERE IS HOW ARE WE GONNA RAISE MONEY? THE, SO ANYWAY, MY, MY SUGGESTION IS THAT OUR POSITION HERE NEEDS TO BE TO VALIDATE THIS, THIS PROJECT, GET IT STARTED, DO WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE FUNDS WE HAVE, MAKE A COMMITMENT TO TRY TO RAISE THE, THE BALANCE, AND THEN FOCUS ON TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A PLAN FOR THE, THE PSTC. 
          UM, ALL OF THIS IS GOOD STUFF AND ALL OF THIS IS VITAL. 
          AND I THINK IF WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, WE'RE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ENA. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          I WANNA ECU ECHO MY, UH, COLLEAGUE'S CONCERN ABOUT, UM, COMMUNICATION. 
          'CAUSE I WAS AWARE ABOUT THE POSSIBLE AUTO POUND RELOCATION BECAUSE I WORKED FOR COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ, NOT BECAUSE I WAS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          SO THANK GOODNESS I I AM AWARE OF THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO WANNA SAY IN REGARDS TO THE POLICE, UM, FACILITY AS A CITY EMPLOYEE, I'M SENSITIVE TO OUR EMPLOYEES HAVING GOOD WORKING CONDITIONS. 
          THIS REALLY SEEMS TO MIRROR THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH CITY HALL RIGHT NOW, INVESTING IN OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          AND I WANNA ASK, IS THERE ANOTHER FACILITY IN THE AREA? LIKE EITHER OF THESE, UM, IF ANYBODY CAN ASK, CAN ANSWER? NO MA'AM. 
          IF I COULD JUST, UH, REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS ANO THIS WAS A WAREHOUSE IN A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT THAT WE'VE MADE INTO A POLICE ACADEMY? NO, THE NEW FACILITIES, THEY, I'M SORRY. 
          THE NEW FACILITIES. 
          WILL THERE BE ANYTHING LIKE THE NEW FACILITIES? THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE, UM, FIRST THAT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH UNTD TO EXPLORE THAT AND TO THEIR KNOWLEDGE AS WELL, THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WHERE OUR RECRUITS CAN PURSUE DEGREES AND THEIR STUDENTS PURSUING DEGREES COULD 
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HAVE A, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ENTRY, UH, INTO A JOB ONCE THEY GRADUATE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE REASON WHY I ASK, 'CAUSE I'M WONDERING, IS THERE A WAY TO GENERATE REVENUE WITH OTHER AGENCIES WHO MAY WANT TO TRAIN OR USE THIS FACILITY AS WELL? ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED, I THINK THAT WAS THE VISION, UH, ALMOST 39 YEARS AGO, IS TO OUTSOURCE, UM, SOME OF OUR TRAINING FACILITIES TO OUTSIDE AGENCIES TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE DO THINGS HERE IN OUR CITY. 
          UM, I THINK IT FALLS GREATLY INTO THE PLAN, UH, WHERE THERE'S FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FOR BOTH ECONOMICALLY AND, UH, HOUSING IN INTO THE SOUTHERN AREA. 
          I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO SEE MAYBE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, OF HOW IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED AS WE PROJECT TOWARDS THE FUTURE. 
          UM, I DO WANNA THANK THE FUNDRAISING TEAM FOR YOUR EFFORTS. 
          I KNOW THAT, UM, FUNDRAISING IS NOT AN EASY JOB AND IT'S SOMETHING, UM, BUT DEFINITELY NECESSARY. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE FUNDRAISING GOALS FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX AS WELL AS WE LOOK AT THAT NEW PIECE. 
          UM, IN LOOKING AT THE NEW FACILITY, I WANNA SEE, SAY THAT I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE SEE SPACE FOR NEW RECRUITS, BUT ALSO THE CURRENT OFFICERS AS WELL. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT AGAIN, THAT WE PROVIDE SPACE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          THAT'S GOOD WORKING CONDITIONS. 
          UM, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE DELAY OF THE 2024 BOND PROJECT PROJECTS. 
          I HAVE PLAYGROUNDS IN MY DISTRICT THAT HAVE BEEN BURNED. 
          UM, MY SWIMMING POOL NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. 
          UM, AND I'M ALSO ANXIOUS FOR THE DELAY IN THE 2029 BOND AS I NEED A NEW FIRE STATION ON CHALK HILL ROAD. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MY COMMUNITY'S BEEN WANTING. 
          HOWEVER, OUR POLICE STATION IS LONG OVERDUE FOR IMPROVED FACILITIES, AND OUR EMPLOYEES DESERVE GOOD WORKING CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER. 
          I WAS GOING TO FIRST OF ALL, THANK COUNCILWOMAN KADINA FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          AND I'VE HEARD SOME GENERAL THEMES TODAY AROUND OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, TO MAKE THAT COMMUNICATION A LOT STRONGER AND BETTER. 
          UM, I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, MENTION THAT WHEN WE COME BACK, I WAS JUST TALKING TO CHAIR WEST. 
          UM, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU THAT DETAILED LIST BECAUSE WE DO HAVE, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE BY DISTRICT THAT PRETTY MUCH SHOW OUR ORIGINAL PLANS IN THE DELIVERY OF THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT EXERCISE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO, TO KIND OF SEE THAT IN ITS FULL, IN ITS ENTIRETY. 
          AND THEN IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS, WE CAN THEN SAY, IF YOU WERE TO SHIFT ANYTHING, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD DEFINITELY BE IMPACTING. 
          AND I'M VERY WELL AWARE OF SOME OF THE PRIORITY ONES THAT MANY OF YOU ARE CHAMPIONING. 
          SO WE DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SHOW THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WHEN WE COME BACK TO GIVE YOU A MORE ROBUST, UH, FINANCIAL, UH, PICTURE, INCLUDING THE DEBT CAPACITY PIECE, UH, AS WELL. 
          AND WE'LL BE SHOWING THOSE DETAILS OF THOSE PROJECTS. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR, FIVE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MS. UM, UH, MR. MAYOR, I AM GOING TO FACILITATE THAT, MAKING THE COMMUNICATION CONSISTENT WITHIN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF DALLAS. 
          I TOO UNDERSTAND THE DISRESPECT OF FINDING THINGS OUT FRIDAY THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THE DAY BEFORE, A YEAR BEFORE THE DAY YOU STARTED. 
          SO MADAM CITY MANAGER, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE THIS MAY NOT BE YOUR DEFICIENCY, THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION, BUT I KNOW I I, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE YOUTH SAID THE BUCK STOPS WITH YOU. 
          'CAUSE YOU ARE HELD TOTALLY ACCOUNTABLE. 
          AND FOR EVERY ONE OF YOUR ACS THAT ARE LISTENING TO OUR VOICE, THEY NEED TO HEAR THAT THERE IS A THEME THAT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR HAS THAT TWO WE'RE DISRESPECTED. 
          AND THREE, WE'RE, WE ARE NOT RESPECTED ENOUGH TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED EQUAL. 
          AND WHILE THEY WORK FOR YOU, YOU HAVE 14 BOSSES. 
          NOW, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO SAY FOR THE POLICE ACADEMY, I'VE, I HAVE SUPPORTED THE POLICE ACADEMY SINCE BEFORE I BECAME A CO COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          I WAS ON THE 2024 BOND PACKAGE WHEN WE A ASKED FOR THE $50 MILLION, UM, TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THIS NEW FACILITY AS, UH, A MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SUBCOMMITTEE. 
          WHERE THIS CAME OUT OF, I, I ASKED FOR A MINIMUM OF 75 MILLION. 
          I WANTED MORE. 
          I SAID IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOUBLED, BUT 
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WE GOT TO 50 BILLION. 
          AND I WAS GRATEFUL WHEN I SAW THAT IT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. 
          'CAUSE I WATCHED THAT TOO. 
          THEY DIDN'T TOUCH THAT 50 MILLION. 
          I TOO WENT TO THE, I DIDN'T GO TO THE SHOOTING RANGE, BUT I HAVE GONE TO THE TRAINING FACILITY. 
          IT'S A JOKE. 
          WE'VE KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROADS IN SO MANY INSTANCES, IN SO MANY TIMES THAT THE CAN IS NOW KICKING BACK. 
          WELL, THE CAN IS KICKING US, AND IT'S KNOCKING US UPSIDE THE HEAD. 
          AND IT'S SAYING, IF YOU RE, IF YOU GAVE US THIS PROMISE IN 1987, AND HERE IT IS 2026, AND WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME OLD, CAN I APPRECIATE, UM, THE THREE I, THE THE THREE FUNDRAISER, UM, TEAM, THEY'RE DOING AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT BECAUSE I KNOW ALL OF THEM AND I RESPECT ALL OF THEM AS WHO THEY ARE. 
          BUT I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE THE, THE BEST PEOPLE FOR THE JOB. 
          I AGREE WITH, UM, WITH CHAIR MENDELSOHN, WHEN SHE SAID, WE ALWAYS PIECEMEAL STUFF. 
          THAT'S WHY WE NEVER HAVE A FACILITY OR ANYTHING. 
          THAT'S FIRST CLASS. 
          WHY WE, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING FIRST CLASS WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THOSE WHO MAKE DECISIONS, WHO SUPPORT THE CITY, WHO, WHO WHO PROTECT THE CITY. 
          I'M JUST TIRED. 
          AND I'M ONLY EIGHT MONTHS IN THIS GAME, BUT I'M TIRED OF ASKING FOR THE SAME THING. 
          I DO BELIEVE WE DO NEED MORE DETAIL. 
          WE HAVE A LOT OF NUMBERS AND LACK OF, OF, OF DETAIL WHERE THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM. 
          I DO BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE SEE NEEDS TO BE DELIVERED. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT TRYING TO RUN IN 110 DEGREE WEATHER, WE DON'T ASK OUR KIDS ANYMORE WHEN THEY'RE PRACTICING TO PRACTICE IN THAT TYPE OF HEAT. 
          WHY WOULD WE ASK OUR OFFICERS TO PUT ON EQUIPMENT AND RUN IN THAT HEAT? THE SAME THING. 
          THEY CAN'T RUN IN THE, THE, THE SNOW WHEN IT DOES SNOW AND, AND IT'S COLD HERE FOR ME. 
          UM, I DO ASK THAT WE, YOU COME BACK WITH MORE DETAIL ON COST, THAT WE GET MORE FINITE DETAIL AS TO WHERE ARE ALL THE PIECES OF THE MONEY. 
          I KNOW THAT MY TIME IS UP, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHAIR GRACIE. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'M, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE THESE IN JUST SOME QUICK STATEMENTS OR SOME THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE IT PUBLICLY, I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT THIS IS A BAD IDEA. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY GOOD IN TERMS OF THE REVENUE THAT IT BRINGS TO THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT. 
          UH, AND AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY THAT'LL BE IN AND AROUND THE AREA. 
          WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS REALLY UNDERSTANDING, UH, THE GUN RANGE AND THE, AND THE, I FORGET WHAT YOU CALL 'EM, BAFFLES AND WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          SO ULTIMATELY WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS WHEN ALL OF, IF ALL OF THAT STUFF GETS PUT IN, WHAT, WHERE DOES THAT TAKE THE DECIBEL LEVEL AT THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT? SO NOW YOU HAVE THE GUN RANGE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY MAYBE DROWNED OUT BY AIRPORT, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, BUT WHERE DOES THAT BRING THE OVERALL DECIBEL LEVEL AND HOW WILL THAT BE MANAGED AND MONITORED? UM, UH, FROM THERE, YES SIR. 
          THOSE ARE GONNA BE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OUR ENGINEERS ARE GONNA NEED TO PROVIDE US THE FEEDBACK ON. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE, UM, MITIGATION OPPORTUNITIES TO KEEP THE SOUND LEVEL DOWN. 
          UM, MAYBE MUFFLED TO SOME DEGREE. 
          THERE'S BAFFLE, THERE'S WALLS, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO BRING TO US AND TO THIS FULL COUNCIL. 
          SO THEY FULLY UNDERSTAND. 
          SO WE ALL FULLY UNDERSTAND AND AS THEY DO, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE HAVING ONGOING COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT THAT, THE SOUND ESPECIALLY, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          UM, SO TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE. 
          OH, THE REVENUE. 
          AND, AND, UH, PATRICK, CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THAT AGAIN? 'CAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER PART. 
          I WEIGHED OUT THE PROS AND CONS OF THIS, AND ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES IS TO, TO TO INCREASE THE REVENUE. 
          UM, THERE, THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN OPERATING IN THE RED AND BEING COVERED BY LOVE FIELD. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND, AND ONE OF OUR OBLIGATIONS WHEN WE RECEIVED GRANT FUNDING OUR FEDERAL OBLIGATIONS, IS TO RUN THE AIRPORT SAFELY, WHICH WE DO. 
          OUR NEXT OBLIGATION IS TO BE SELF-SUFFICIENT. 
          AND 
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IF WE LOOK AT THAT COST CENTER, IT, IT HASN'T BEEN HISTORICALLY CO UM, SELF-SUFFICIENT. 
          AND THAT'S VERY COMMON IN A GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          IT'S NOT UNIQUE TO DALLAS EXECUTIVE AIRPORT. 
          SO THIS DOES PUT US A VERY LONG WAY. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT DOUBLING REVENUE, THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO US. 
          UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          IT'S, IT STAYS WITHIN THAT ECOSYSTEM AND IT'S INVESTED BACK INTO THE AIRPORT. 
          IT DOESN'T GO OUTSIDE. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. 
          AND THEN, DO YOU, AND IF YOU MAY NOT, UH, YOU CAN JUST INCLUDE THIS IN THE FOLLOW UP, UH, MEMO, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW KIND OF WHERE WE ARE NOW IN TERMS OF, UH, EXPENSES VERSUS REVENUES, AND THEN WHERE WE WILL BE ONCE YOU ADD THE HOTEL AND, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE POLICE TRAINING FACILITY ON TOP OF THAT. 
          WHERE WOULD WE BE AND WHAT COULD THAT LOOK LIKE? HOW MUCH WE, WE CAN DETAIL THAT OUT, ESPECIALLY AS, UH, AS THIS ADVANCES AND WE'VE GOT THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT. 
          BUT WE WILL BE VERY CLOSE TO BEING SELF-SUFFICIENT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE, THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS. 
          AND WITH THIS TIED INTO THAT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN FINAL STATEMENT ON THIS ONE IS, UM, AS FAR AS THE, THE, UH, PUBLIC ART IS CONCERNED, I'M ABSOLUTELY AS CHAIR OF QUALITY LIFE AND ARTS CULTURE, ABSOLUTELY NOT INTERESTED IN CUTTING THAT OUT OF THIS. 
          IF YOU'RE BRINGING SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO SOUTHERN DALLAS, WE ALSO WANT THE ART AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT COMES WITH IT. 
          SO PUTTING THAT ON THE RECORD AS, AS IN INCLUDING THAT IN THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF WISHES AND THINGS THAT YOU ALL WANT. 
          UM, BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT BEAUTY, THAT, THAT MAKE SOUTHERN DALLAS BETTER. 
          SO I, I'M ADVOCATING TO KEEP THE, THE ART IN THERE. 
          THE PUBLIC ART IN THERE. 
          UM, OH, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE FAIR MARKET VALUE, YOU SAID THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2024. 
          UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE GET CLOSER TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, THIS IS JUST A, A STATEMENT. 
          UM, AS WE GET CLOSER, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO REVISIT IN TERMS OF WHAT THAT FAIR MARKET VALUE IS. 
          UH, FROM THERE, COME IN. 
          I LOVE Y'ALL, BUT WE, IT IS A BUSINESS WE RUN INTO, SO I'M GONNA NEED THAT MONEY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSSOHN, WERE YOU FINISHED THAT? I JUST GOT BACK IN THE CHAIR. 
          OKAY. 
          CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES, IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          OH, THREE MINUTES. 
          YOU'RE MUTED STILL. 
          YOU'RE STILL MUTED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I'M GONNA GO PRETTY FAST FOR THE ART INPUT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. 
          YES, PLEASE REMOVE IT. 
          FROM THIS PROJECT, WE CAN GET A DONATION AND OUR, UM, DONOR GROUP MAY BE ABLE TO FIND ART THAT WOULD BE PART OF THAT DONATION. 
          THE SECOND IS WE HAVE LOTS OF MUSEUMS THAT HAVE ART THAT IS, UM, IN STORAGE AND THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GIVE US A LONG-TERM LENDING OF AN ITEM THAT, UM, COULD SUFFICE INSTEAD OF USING BUDGET. 
          SECOND IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REALITY BASED TRAINING VILLAGE. 
          THAT QUICK TRIP DONATED, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN WAIT ON. 
          THAT IS PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE FOR OUR CADETS THAT KEEPS THEM SAFE AND KEEPS OUR OUR PUBLIC SAFE. 
          WHEN THEY GO INTO AN APARTMENT, THEY ARE LITERALLY MANEUVERING AND, AND FIGURING OUT HOW THEY CAN SAFELY FOR THEMSELVES AND OTHERS, UM, ADDRESS SITUATIONS. 
          SO THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN WAIT ON THE GUN RANGE. 
          I HIGHLY SUGGEST EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL GO VISIT THE GUN RANGE. 
          WHAT I DON'T WANNA HAVE HAPPEN IS CODE COMPLIANCE TO GO VISIT THE GUN RANGE. 
          'CAUSE THEY WOULD PROBABLY SHUT IT DOWN. 
          THAT IS A DANGEROUS LOCATION. 
          IT IS LITERALLY RUSTING APART BEING FIXED BY CADETS. 
          THERE IS A DANGER TO THE PEOPLE WORKING THERE WITH LEAD. 
          AND I'M, I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT IT. 
          IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A SHOOT HOUSE IS OR A BREACH HOUSE, GO LOOK AT THEM. 
          THEY'RE AT THE GUN RANGE. 
          THEY, AGAIN, ARE NECESSARY. 
          I KNOW WHEN I WAS AT THE, UM, SHOOT HOUSE, YEAH, I, I SHOOT EVERY TIME, EVEN IF IT'S A HOSTAGE THAT SHOWS UP. 
          SO THIS IS GREAT TRAINING, NECESSARY TRAINING EVOC THE COST TO BUILD THAT. 
          GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE SAVING MONEY WHEN OUR OFFICERS DON'T HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND WRECK THEIR CAR. 
          SO THEY ARE IN VEHICLES A LOT AND IT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TEACHING THEM TO BE SAFE FOR THEMSELVES AND FOR OTHERS. 
          UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VALUE ENGINEERING, I THINK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. 
          I THINK THIS IS THE LOWEST COST WE CAN POSSIBLY GET FOR THE AIRPORT LOCATION. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S GREAT FOR THE AIRPORT BUDGET. 
          GREAT. 
          COULD IT POSSIBLY INCREASE, UM, SAFETY IN THE AREA? 
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MAYBE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT'LL FOR SURE DO. 
          OUR CADETS TEND TO LIVE NEAR THE ACADEMY, SO NOW WE'VE GOT MORE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. 
          WE'VE GOT, UM, RESTAURANTS, GAS STATIONS, ALL OF THOSE ARE GONNA HAVE A VERY POSITIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY. 
          THE WORKING CONDITIONS FOR OUR STAFF AT THE ACADEMY, THE GUN RANGE, AND THE PROPERTY ROOM. 
          AGAIN, PLEASE GO VIEW THE PROPERTY ROOM. 
          PLEASE GO SMELL THE PROPERTY ROOM. 
          UM, IT'S THE WORST BUILDING I'VE BEEN IN, IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND I THAT'S ACTUALLY YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE ON SECOND ROUNDS AND WE'LL GO TO THE DEAF MAYOR PRO 10 FOR THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'VE JUST MADE A FEW RANDOM NOTES AS WE'VE HAD OUR DISCUSSION, BUT, UH, ON, UM, THE, I'M GOING BACK TO THE AUDITORIUM CONCEPT AND USING THE SPACE IN A MODULAR FASHION. 
          I HAD MENTIONED TO YOU ALL, THERE'S PROBABLY A PICTURE IN THE APPENDIX, AND I THINK ON PAGE 41, IT JUST SHOWS THERE'S THE TRACK AND THE OPEN SPACE THAT COULD ALSO BE USED AS, UH, AN AUDITORIUM. 
          AND I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW OUR OFFICERS ARE OUT IN THE ELEMENTS IN THE HOT, IN THE HEAT, IN THE COLD AND IN THE RAIN AND THE ICE AND THE SNOW, IF WE'RE TRAINING THEM, I THINK WE WANT THEM TO BE IN A CONSISTENT TRAINING ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE INDOORS SO THAT WE CAN ASSURE THAT FROM CLASS TO CLASS. 
          AND SO OUR RESIDENTS KNOW THEY'RE GETTING CONSISTENT TRAINING. 
          BUT, UH, I THINK WHERE I LEFT OFF LAST WAS ON FUNDRAISING. 
          I, I DO THINK ON, ON PAGE 25 WHERE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THE GOAL IS AND, UH, WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT'S PENDING. 
          AND YEAH, I, I FEEL LIKE THE DECISIONS AND, AND SOME OF WHAT WE'VE CAPTURED TODAY WITH REGARD TO A GROUNDBREAKING, AND AS WE MOVE EVER CLOSER, I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL UNLOCK, UH, MORE HEARTS HEADS, MINDS WALLETS, , WHATEVER IT TAKES. 
          UM, AND THAT THIS WILL NOT BE, UM, SOMETHING INSURMOUNTABLE, BUT RATHER WE WILL SEE SOME FORWARD PROGRESS LIKE WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE. 
          UM, BUT I DO WANNA TURN BACK TO THE, UH, TRAINING CENTER OR TRAINING COMPLEX. 
          AND WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THIS BRIEFING, UH, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE IDEA OF BONDS, I, YOU KNOW, IT CONCERNS ME AND I, I DO WANNA SEE A FUNDRAISING PLAN FOR THIS PART OF IT. 
          JUST AS ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER, WE SPLIT THAT IN HALF AND SAID PART OF IT'S GONNA BE PRIVATE PART OF IT. 
          WE'RE GONNA SEEK FUNDS IN A FROM OTHER RESOURCES. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SAME ATTENTION GIVEN TO, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING COMPLEX. 
          ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE PURSUED FEDERAL DOLLARS, CITY MANAGER. 
          I DON'T, I KNOW WE'VE HAD STATE AND WE'VE HAD OTHER OTHER PIECES COME INTO THIS, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PURSUE THERE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME ADVOCATES. 
          UM, CONGRESSWOMAN VAN DYNE IS USUALLY VERY BIG PROPONENT, AND I MEAN, MS. CROCKETT AND, YOU KNOW, OUR, UM, AS, AS THIS, THE ELECTIONS COME AND GO, I MEAN, FOR THE DISTRICT THAT THIS REPRESENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D JUST LOVE TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE TAPPING INTO THAT AS WELL. 
          SO JUST THAT, THAT IS A PIECE TO COME, BUT I THINK IT IS TIME TO LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT THE COMPONENTS WOULD BE BEFORE WE JUST SAY WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR RESIDENCE, UM, FOR ANOTHER BOND ISSUANCE. 
          THANKS, MR. BAZEL. 
          DO YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES? THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, SO, UM, JACK, YOU MENTIONED THE, UM, FINANCING WITH, WITH MS. BLACKMAN. 
          UM, I, I KNOW WE RECENTLY GOT A, UH, SHOCK VALUE HEADLINE NUMBER ABOUT CITY HALL THAT INCLUDED FINANCING, AND I NOTICED THAT WASN'T IN HERE. 
          IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT WASN'T IN HERE? UH, NO SIR. 
          THERE WASN'T A SPECIFIC REASON. 
          BUT TO BACK TO MS. BLACKMAN'S QUESTION, THE ACTUAL COST OF INTEREST ON $250 MILLION WOULD BE A REPAYMENT OF 387,000,500. 
          SO, UM, THERE IS THE INTEREST COST IN THAT, AND WE JUST DID NOT INCLUDE IT IN THIS PRESENTATION. 
          I JUST THINK FOR CONSISTENCY, YOU KNOW, WE GAVE MEDIA, UM, THIS LARGE, UH, UM, NUMBER THAT'S BASICALLY WORST CASE SCENARIO, INCLUDING FINANCING, WHICH IS AT, AT NOT NORMAL PRACTICE AND WHEN WE'RE GETTING THINGS QUOTED. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOT TALK ABOUT THIS BEING A 250, UH, MILLION DOLLARS ASK, THIS IS A $400 MILLION ASK FOR THE, UH, TAXPAYERS. 
          UM, I HAVE A CONSTITUENT WHO REACHED OUT AND REALLY WANTED ME TO SEE IF I COULD GET SOME QUESTIONS ON RECORD. 
          UM, AND, AND ONE IN PARTICULAR, UH, THAT, THAT HE HAS IS, UH, HAS COUNSEL SEEN A FULL SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON OF ALL BOND WORTHY NEEDS CITYWIDE BEFORE COMMITTING TO THIS PAST. 
          SO SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ALREADY, UM, ASKED FOR AND CHAIR WEST AND WHAT YOU BRING, UM, IF THE, THE 
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WILL IS IN FACT TO, UH, GET A MORE COMPREHENSIVE SCOPE AT COMMITTEE LEVEL, IF THAT CAN BE INCLUSIVE OF NOT JUST THESE BIG PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HEARD, BUT ALSO THERE'S PLENTY ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY THAT WE HAD TO PUSH OFF, UH, THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE 2024 BOND. 
          AND, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY TO LOOK AT AS WELL. 
          UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO, UH, REEMPHASIZE WHAT I MENTIONED WHEN IT CAME TO THE TERM WISHLIST. 
          UH, 'CAUSE I THINK IT WAS MISCHARACTERIZED AFTER I SPOKE. 
          I NEVER SAID PUBLIC SAFETY IS A WISHLIST. 
          UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S VERY CLEAR. 
          UM, I, I THINK THAT A WISHLIST IS REFERRING TO, UM, UH, HAVING PURCHASES OUTSIDE OF OUR MEANS, WHICH I BELIEVE SPEAKS TO THE FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY THAT I WAS TALKING TO. 
          IF WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT BUDGETED BEFORE HAVING TO GO AND OPEN UP A NEW CREDIT CARD, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH WITH WHAT WE HAVE. 
          AND THAT IS NOT WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US, AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE TAXPAYERS. 
          AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A MAJORITY OF TAXPAYERS THAT I'VE HEARD FROM ABOUT PRIORITIZING FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY JUST AS MUCH AS PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE TWO ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UH, NO ONE IS EXPECTING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AS A WHOLE TO BE A WISHLIST, BUT I ALSO DO, UH, HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE A CONSISTENT NEED FOR FURNISHING THE RIGHT RESOURCES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, INCLUDING THE MEMBERS OF DFR AND NOT JUST DPD. 
          AND IF THIS MEANS PUTTING OFF THE REPAIRS TO THEIR FACILITIES IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE A CONVERSATION THAT THAT IS WORTH HAVING. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYOR PORT TIM RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'LL START OFF BY SAYING I FULLY SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TRAINING FACILITY TRAINING CENTER AT UNT DALLAS. 
          WHILE NOT IDEAL TO HAVE THE TRAINING CENTER IN THE TRAINING COMPLEX IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATION, IT'S WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US TODAY. 
          UM, I DON'T WANNA SEE A FACE IN APPROACH, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT, I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CAUTIOUS ABOUT OUR CAPACITY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, FUTURE BOND. 
          WE KNOW THAT THIS PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY HAS BEEN A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS, IF NOT LONGER. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WHETHER THAT CAPACITY WEAKENS TO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN 2029, I WOULD FULLY EXPECT THAT THIS COMPLEX WOULD BE ON THAT FUTURE COMPLEX. 
          SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MOVING IT, UH, DOWN AND SOONER SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT. 
          UM, SO I WANT TO DO WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE SELECTION. 
          AND IF YOU CAN JUST GO BACK, I KNOW THAT, UH, THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT LOCATION, UM, MEETS THE, THE CRITERIA THAT YOU GUYS WERE, WERE LOOKING AT. 
          UH, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE THE BIGGEST, UH, MEASURE WAS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE EXECUTIVE AIRPORT AND UNT DALLAS. 
          SO WHAT'S THE DISTANCE, UH, IN TRAVELING MILES TO GET FROM ONE LOCATION TO THE NEXT? SORRY. 
          SO I THINK, UH, THE SLIDE, YOUR, UM, SLIDE WE COULD LOOK AT WITH SLIDE 20 THAT SHOWS THE LOCATIONS. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF TIMES, UM, I BELIEVE, UH, DALLAS EXECUTIVE WAS A FIVE TO 10 MILE DISTANCE, WHICH WAS, UM, ABOUT 15, 15 MINUTES IS WHAT WE WERE, WE WERE ESTIMATING, OKAY. 
          AND DEV, WHAT DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH AVIATION TO GIVE THIS PROJECT, UH, SOME INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABILITY. 
          UM, AND I'D HAVE TO HAVE PATRICK RESPOND TO THE AVIATION DOLLARS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. 
          BUT, UM, AS WE WOULD DO WITH ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING TO DALLAS EXECUTIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS PART OF OUR PRACTICE IS TO PROVIDE THE ENABLING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. 
          UH, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DOLLAR THAT'S AVAILABLE. 
          HOW WE, WE WOULD, UH, REVIEW THESE AS, AS WE GET THE, THE PLANS AND MORE OF THE PROGRAMMATIC. 
          UM, WE WOULD LOOK AT THINGS JUST LIKE WE WOULD WITH A DEVELOPER THAT ENABLING WORK, UM, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. 
          WHERE THERE'S PIECES OF THE AIRPORT THAT MAY HAVE UTILITIES ROAD, UM, SITE WORK DONE, SITE PREP DONE. 
          UM, A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S AREAS LIKE THIS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          UM, SO WHETHER IT'S A HANGAR DEVELOPMENT, IT'S A NON AERONAUTICAL DEVELOPMENT, IF WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE, WE WOULD LOOK TO, TO DO THAT AND, AND WE WOULD EXPECT THAT WE WOULD HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE AT THAT LEVEL. 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T KIND OF FIGURED OUT EXACTLY WHAT 
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IT IS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT UNT, WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE IN THIS AS A PARTNER. 
          THEY WANT US TO BE AT UNT. 
          IN FACT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LEASE TERMS ARE VERY FAVORABLE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          AND SO THE WAY I SEE IT IS, AS LONG AS WE WANT TO BE THERE, THAT LONGEVITY IS GOING TO BE, UM, AT OUR, UH, DISCRETION ON WHETHER WE WANT TO BE AT UNT OR NOT. 
          HOW MANY MEETINGS HAVE WE HAD ON THE TRAINING CENTER TRAINING FACILITY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY? I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S A STANDING UPDATE. 
          UH, WE HAVEN'T GONE INTO THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL. 
          I KNOW THAT THE CHAIR REALLY REQUESTED THAT WE COME WITH MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT HAS BEEN A STANDING ITEM, UM, UM, ON THAT AGENDA. 
          AND I'LL HAVE CHIEF ARTIS, UH, TO CORRECT ME IF I'VE MISSTATED, UH, THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION THERE. 
          PROTI, CHIEF ARTIS, UH, YES, ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, WE HAVE A MONTHLY MEMO THAT, UM, BOTH THEY OF MYSELF AND, AND JENNY AS WELL AS CHIEF AND CHIEF HERRERA ARE THERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BRING ANY UPDATES, AND ALSO OUR PARTNERS USUALLY SHOW UP FROM UNTD. 
          AND, AND, AND I WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR THAT. 
          YOU GUYS JUST BRIEF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, I BELIEVE YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE, AND YOU GUYS HAVE MADE YOURSELF AVAILABLE AT THOSE MEETINGS. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UM, I, I JUST IN CLOSING, I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE TIME IS NOW WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTA MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS GUYS. 
          UH, IF, IF WE DON'T, IF WE FACE THIS FACE, THIS END, WE'RE JUST LEAVING IT TO FUTURE COUNCILS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. 
          AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING PRIORITIES, BUT AS WE DO OUR COMMUNITY SURVEYS, AS WE, UH, TALK AROUND THIS HORSESHOES ON, ON THOSE PRIORITIES, UM, I THINK IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND, AND WITH THAT CITY MANAGER, UH, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TIMING, ABOUT, UH, GIVING YOU DIRECTION AND ALSO ON A POSSIBLE, UH, BOND GOING TO THE VOTERS, UH, JUST WALK THROUGH THE TIMING OF IT. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          AS, AS COUNCIL KNOWS THAT WE BROUGHT AN UPDATED, UM, UM, UM, BUDGET DISCUSSION TO YOU AT YOUR LAST BRIEFING, WE'VE SLOTTED TO COME BACK DURING THE MONTH OF MAY AND THE MONTH OF JUNE TO GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL UPDATES. 
          AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE WORK ON THE UPCOMING BUDGET, UM, ACTUALLY STARTED LAST NOVEMBER AFTER COUNCIL APPROVED THE CURRENT BUDGET. 
          AND SO BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY OF A LOT OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, AS MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ADDRESSED, UH, WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO INTO THE SUMMER, UH, WITH A LOT MORE DIRECTION THAN WHAT WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY, WHICH IS WHY I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR THOSE WHO HAVE COMPLETED THE POLLING. 
          I THINK THAT'S HELPING US AS WELL. 
          SO THE GOAL WOULD BE THAT IF, UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO FINE TUNE, BRING BACK A LOT OF THE ADDITIONAL DATA THAT'S BEEN REQUESTED TODAY REGARDING THE BUN PROGRAM CAPACITY AND THE OVERALL FINANCIAL PLAN, UH, WE WILL WORK WITH CHAIR WEST TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE NEED TO DO IT IN TWO STEPS WHERE WE BRING SOME OF THAT TO FINANCE AND THEN STILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE GOAL WOULD BE DURING THE MONTH OF MAY THAT WE WOULD HAVE A FINANCE CONVERSATION, BRING BACK SOMETHING TO THE BODY, AND THEN WE COULD ALSO COME BACK IN JUNE AND THEN GO INTO THE SUMMER WITH A LOT MORE UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE YOU WANT US TO BE. 
          I THINK THE LAST TIMEFRAME TO CALL A BOND ELECTION FOR NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR WOULD BE IN AUGUST. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE IN AUGUST, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S, THE DATE HASN'T BEEN SET, BUT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO WORK, UH, TOWARDS THAT. 
          AND I DO WANNA MENTION A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MR. UM, IRELAND, UM, POINTED OUT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS PLANNED WAS SOMETIME BETWEEN 28 AND 29. 
          ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT WE DEFINITELY MADE, UM, CHAIR STEWART POINTED OUT WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO CONTINUE THE DUE DILIGENCE TO, UM, TO EVEN BRING ADDITIONAL, UH, INFUSION INTO THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION. 
          AND SO WE'VE TALKED, UM, OPENLY ABOUT THE WHOLE PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS. 
          UM, THE AUTHORIZATION DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY GO INTO THE MARKET AT THAT POINT. 
          WE WOULD GET THE AUTHORIZATION AND AT A FUTURE TIME THAT THE MARKET WOULD BE, UM, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY MORE FAVORABLE THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY ISSUE THE BONDS. 
          SO GETTING THAT APPROVAL DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE GO AHEAD AND DO IT AT THAT TIME. 
          SO OVERALL, I THINK BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE WE WANNA HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE. 
          WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO OUR HOMEWORK AND OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND YOUR CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED OVER THE NEXT 60 DAYS. 
          DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO TO ONE MINUTE ROUNDS THEN THE CHAIRMAN, GRACE RECKONS ONE MINUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND I, I STARTED THIS 
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QUESTION IN MY FIRST TIME. 
          HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THE PROXIMITY TO THE OTHER FACILITIES MATTER. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THAT CONNECTION. 
          SO OUR BASIC PEACE OFFICERS COURSE IS VERY STRUCTURED. 
          SO THEY, WE, IT IS MANDATED BY THE STATE THAT WE GET THIS MUCH TRAINING IN DURING THIS MUCH TIME. 
          AND SO FOR EFFICIENCY PURPOSES, WE WANTED TO BE WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER SO THAT THEY NEEDED TO GET TO GO DO EVOC. 
          THEY COULD DO EVOC IN THE AFTERNOON AS OPPOSED TO BLOWING A WHOLE DAY JUST DOING ONE HALF OF EVOC IN THE OTHER DAY DOING NOTHING. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING I JUST WANT TO ADD IN HERE, AND I KNOW CHIEF, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL, AND YOU, YOU, UH, WE HAVE A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S INCLUDING A DROP ZONE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT IF WE ARE GONNA START TALKING ABOUT BOND PROGRAMS, I DO AND, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE POLICE NEEDS, I DON'T, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR AS WELL AND THAT'S A SUBSTATION. 
          I KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO GET THAT FAR INTO WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, BUT REALLY BUILDING OUT THAT DROP ZONE, UM, WITH THAT ECONOMIC, WITH THE, UH, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE IT MORE, TO GIVE MORE OF A POLICE PRESENCE IF WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, THE BOND PROGRAM STUFF, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN ASKED AND TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS IN TERMS OF RESPONSE TIME, PARTICULARLY IN THE MOUNTAIN CREEK AREA. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT ON NOTE AS SOMETHING TO EXPLORE AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU MR. BAZEL. 
          DO RECOGNIZE FOR ONE MINUTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOW MANY PROJECTS HAVE WE HAD A GROUNDBREAKING FOR BEFORE WE'VE EVEN SENT A PROPOSITION TO THE VOTERS, UH, THAT IS NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT? I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION. 
          IT'S PROBABLY 'CAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED. 
          SEEMS A LITTLE BACKWARDS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU AND T UH, WERE TO DISSOLVE, DISSOLVE THE SYSTEM? UM, I'M, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'VE, UM, ADDRESSED THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE IN THE, IN THE GROUND LEASE. 
          WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK. 
          HAVE WE BEEN TRACKING THE MAJOR CUTS AND SOMEWHAT FINANCIAL CRISIS OF THE UNT SYSTEM? NOT, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH UNT DALLAS BEING A SUBSET OF THE UNT SYSTEM SEEMS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A HIGHER LEVEL OF VULNERABILITY. 
          AND I SEE THAT THERE'S BEEN A 50% DECREASE IN INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS. 
          THERE'S BEEN A HUGE DECREASE IN THEIR FINANCIAL, UH, CAPABILITIES. 
          THERE'VE BEEN MORE THAN 70 MAJORS THAT THEY'VE TAKEN OFF OF THEIR BOOKS GOING INTO THE NEXT, UM, UH, UH, ACADEMIC YEAR. 
          AND I WOULD THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE AT AT LEAST A PRUDENT APPROACH TO THE PLACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THESE BOND, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ON AND PUTTING ALL OF THE FAITH IN, UM, THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH SOMEONE. 
          WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY WILL BE THERE. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR PANEL ON ITEM C OR TODAY'S BRIEFINGS? OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, SEEING NONE. 
          HELLO? OH, KARA, KARA, I'M SORRY. 
          CHAIRMAN MENDELSSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR A MINUTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I'M JUST GONNA START OFF SAYING THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS WANT THIS POLICE ACADEMY BUILT THEY WANNA BUILT RIGHT AWAY. 
          AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE IT ON A NOVEMBER BOND ELECTION. 
          I THINK IT'LL PASS VERY HIGH JUST LIKE IT DID IN 2024. 
          BUT I WILL TELL YOU, WE DIDN'T SPEND NEARLY THIS AMOUNT OF TIME OR THIS KIND OF SCRUTINY FOR THE $250 MILLION THAT ARE GOING TO THE WINGS FOR THEIR PRACTICE FACILITY IN THEIR, UH, ARENA. 
          NUMBER TWO, I'M JUST GONNA SAY WE HAVE COUNCIL COLLEAGUES TALKING ABOUT LACK OF COMMUNICATION, UH, HELLO FROM THE NORTH. 
          SAME ISSUE. 
          WE HAVE STAFF THAT ARE ANNOUNCING NEW PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVES THAT I DIDN'T EVEN GET SPOKEN TO. 
          SO IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT DISRESPECT, I WILL JOIN YOUR CHORUS. 
          UM, THE LAST THING I'M GONNA SAY IS THAT THIS IS A, THIS IS A TOUGH PROJECT, BUT IF WE DO NOT TAKE THIS MONEY FROM THE STATE, THE IMPLICATIONS AFTER WE HAVE BASICALLY BEGGED FOR IT, UM, THAT ARE TIED TO THE UNT LOCATION IS IT WILL IMPACT OUR FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER PROJECTS AS THE LEDGE LOSES CONFIDENCE IN THE ABILITY FOR DALLAS. 
          THAT YOUR TIME. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR, LET'S SEE HERE, THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR JOHNSON. 
          UM, DIRECTOR OF OGGI MC, CAN I OR A CM OGGI, EXCUSE ME, GET YOUR TITLE CORRECT. 
          UM, LET'S GO BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT 
          [04:00:01]
A RIBBON CUTTING BEFORE WE WOULD DO FUNDING, LET'S JUST SAY ABSOLUTE WORST CASE SCENARIO. 
          AND MS. MENDELSON, CLOSE YOUR EARS. 
          UM, THE, THE BOND DIDN'T PASS, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY, BUT WE HAD BROKEN GROUND, WE HAD BEGUN THIS PROJECT. 
          IS, IS THERE A A WAY WE COULD SCALE THIS BACK AND WHILE WE WORK ON A PLAN B? SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT FOR ME. 
          YEAH, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT FOLLOW UP QUESTION. 
          AND UM, I PROBABLY DIDN'T COMPLETELY RESPOND, UM, APPROPRIATELY, UM, BEFORE, BUT AS YOU'VE HEARD, UM, WE HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDING AT THE 145, 150 MILLION TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE BASIC ACADEMY AND THE, UM, PHYSICAL TRAINING PAVILION. 
          AND SO THOSE COMPONENTS WOULD BE DELIVERED. 
          SO I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A GROUNDBREAKING TO SHOW THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY, UM, IT IS OUR HOPE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, TO MEET THE FUNDING, THE FULL FUNDING REQUIRED TO COMPLETE EVERY SINGLE COMPONENT, UM, THAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THIS CAMPUS. 
          BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT FOLLOW UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT WAS A HELPFUL CLARIFICATION. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, CHAIRMAN WEST RECOGNIZ FOR THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSSOHN SAID EXCEPT FOR THE COMMENT ABOUT THE WINGS. 
          'CAUSE I HAVE THE GRAY HAIR TO PROVE THAT WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT FACILITY. 
          UM, BUT I I I MEAN THE VOTERS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THEY EXPECT FOR US TO BUILD THIS FACILITY, UM, AT UNT AND THEY EXPECT FOR US TO FISCAL BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, BUT ALSO GET IT DONE. 
          AND, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER IS WHAT FURTHER GUIDANCE DO YOU NEED FROM, I KNOW CHAIR MORENO, UM, HAD, YOU KNOW, MADE SOME PRETTY GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT THE TIMELINE. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US? I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE WE BREAK OUTTA HERE. 
          NO, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, I THINK WHAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE OVERALL FINANCIAL PICTURE THAT WE ARE WORKING, UH, TO PROVIDE. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME COMMENTS ABOUT PHASING. 
          I THINK WE'VE APPROACHED LOOKING AT PHASING, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SOLVE A FUNDING CHALLENGE. 
          IT PUSHES IT AND THEN THEIR COSTS MIGHT ACTUALLY INCREASE, UM, AS WE MOVE THINGS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. 
          UM, BUT WE WILL COME BACK, UM, WITH AN UPDATE. 
          UM, DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS, UM, AND ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          AND I THINK AT THAT POINT WHEN WE COME BACK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, WE WILL NEED GUIDANCE ON, DO YOU WANT US TO PROCEED WITH BOTH, UM, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING FACILITY AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, COMPLEX AS A JOINT PROJECT EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THAT THERE'S PHASING NATURALLY THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          UM, AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING, UM, FOR THE GUIDANCE ON THE FINANCIAL, UM, THE FUNDING PIECES. 
          WE WILL DEFINITELY COME BACK AND, AND SHOW YOU IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WAYS TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          BUT WE WILL NEED DECISIONS, UM, BEFORE WE GO INTO THE SUMMER SO WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE HEADED, NOT ONLY WITH THE BUDGET, BUT AS IT RELATES TO POTENTIALLY HAVING ADDITIONAL FUNDING SUPPORT THROUGH A BOND, UH, LATER IN THE YEAR. 
          AND 'CAUSE I THINK THE LONGER WE HAVE WAIT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, WE'RE GONNA MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY START MOVING EVEN ON THE FIRST PIECE OF THIS MOVING THAT FORWARD. 
          AND I WANTED TO ALSO THANK PUBLICLY, UM, THE FUNDRAISING, UH, TEAM AND THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AS WELL. 
          I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT EARLIER. 
          UH, THEY HAVE A FULL SPREADSHEET OF HOW THEY'RE GONNA GET THERE AND WE TRULY, UM, BELIEVE, UM, THAT THEY'RE DOING IT AND THEY'RE GONNA HELP US GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU CHAIRMAN JOHNSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. 
          I WANT TO, UH, MAKE IT BE CLEAR THAT I DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. 
          AS I SAID IT BEFORE, UH, I DO AGREE WITH A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UH, CHAIR DELSON SAID THE VOTERS WILL BE, UH, HAVE SUPPORTED THIS AND THEY'VE MADE THEIR VOICE CLEAR THAT THEY WANT THIS PROJECT. 
          AND SO, UH, I SUPPORT WHAT I, WHAT OUR, UH, VOTERS ARE SAYING THAT IS NEEDED. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY IS PRIORITY ON MY CAMPUS. 
          I KNOW IT'S PRIORITY TO THE MAYOR, UH, HAS MADE THAT PUBLICLY CLEAR. 
          SO WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT. 
          THE CHALLENGE THAT I HAVE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS STATED, UH, WHEN YOU LOOKING AT 75 VERSUS 45, THAT'S A DIFFERENT LOOK WHEN YOU COMING FROM MY COMMUNITY TO NORTH DALLAS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT LOOK. 
          WHEN YOU GO TO OAK LIFT DISTRICT FOUR AND YOU GO OVER THERE TO NORTH DALLAS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT LOOK. 
          MY COMMUNITY HAS BEEN DISPROPORTIONATELY DISTRICT FRANCHISED, PLENTY OF DISPARITIES DUE TO RACISM. 
          SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE, UH, NORTH DALLAS TO TO SOUTHERN DALLAS BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A LACK OF COMMUNICATION AND A LACK OF PERIOD GOING ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          SO I WANNA PLEASE MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING AND I'M GONNA STAND BY THAT. 
          WE NEED PROPER COMMUNICATION AND PROPER RESOURCES GOING IN OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHAIRWOMAN MENZEL, I SEE YOUR HAND IS UP, BUT DID YOU HAVE AN INQUIRY? OKAY, 
          [04:05:01]
IT'S JUST STILL UP THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE, SO, UM, ARE YOU GOOD? ARE YOU GOOD FOR THIS BRIEFING ITEM BEFORE I TAKE THIS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? YES SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO IT'S 1:50 PM 
          [CLOSED SESSION]
ON APRIL 15TH, 2026. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSE SESSION UNDER SECTION 5 51 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS OATH MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA BRIEFING ITEM A AND ITEM NUMBER THREE, WE'LL STAND AT RECESS UNTIL TWO 30. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          CITY COUNCIL'S COMPLETED. 
          IT'S CLOSED SESSION INTER SECTION 5 51 0.07, ONE OF THE TEXAS OPENINGS ACT, AND AT THREE 30, UM, PM ON APRIL 15TH, 2026. 
          WE'VE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION. 
          UH, MADAM CITY MANAGER, WE'RE BACK TO YOUR BRIEFING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. MAYOR. 
          WE ARE READY TO MOVE TO BRIEFING ITEM. 
          UM, OUR SECOND BRIEFING ITEM FOR TODAY WAS, WHICH IS THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED FY 26 27 HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN BUDGET. 
          UM, THIS FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WAS LAUNCHED IN JANUARY. 
          WE'VE HAD SIX ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE'VE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DURING BOTH THE MONTHS OF MARCH AND THE MONTH OF APRIL. 
          I DO WANNA NOTE THAT THE COMMISSION DID NOT RECOMMEND ANY CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET ON APRIL THE THIRD. 
          WE ACTUALLY PUBLISHED THE ACTUAL GRANT AMOUNTS FOR THE CD FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET AND THOSE AMOUNTS ARE REFLECTED IN, SORRY. 
          OKAY, WE HAVE TWO ON THE CAMERA TWO, SHE SAID TWO. 
          OKAY, MR. MAYOR, WITHOUT GOING BACK THROUGH THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE READY TO GO OVER THE PROPOSED, UH, AND HUG CONSOLIDATED PLAN BUDGET FOR 26 27. 
          UM, NOTING AGAIN THAT THE COMMISSION DID NOT RECOMMEND ANY CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE DID PUBLISH THE GRANTS AMOUNT FOR THE CITY FISCAL YEAR 2027. 
          THAT IS ACTUALLY REFLECTED IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION. 
          UM, WE ARE GOING TO JUST RUN THROUGH SOME HIGHLIGHTS, UH, IN THE DECK FOR YOU BECAUSE WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS. 
          WE KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT TODAY'S BRIEFING. 
          AND WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHAN WILLIAMS, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES, AND SHE'S SUPPORTED TODAY BY OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, JACK IRELAND. 
          HAN. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UH, CITY MANAGER, UH, TOLBERT. 
          I AM HAN WILLIAMS FROM BUDGET MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND AS THE CITY MANAGER HAS SHARED, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THE SLIDES FOR YOUR HIGHLIGHT. 
          AND MOVING TO SLIDE 14, JUST WANT TO UH, HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THAT ON APRIL THE SECOND THE, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION APPROVE, THE CITY MANAGERS PROPOSED 20 26, 27 HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN WITH NO AMENDMENTS. 
          THEN ON APRIL THE THIRD, HUD PUBLISHED THE ACTUAL GRANT AMOUNTS. 
          SO THIS BUDGET REFLECTS THOSE, UH, PROPOSED EITHER INCREASES OR DECREASES AS NECESSARY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET WITH AVAILABLE RESOURCES. 
          AND THAT INFORMATION WAS, UH, DISTRIBUTED IN A MEMO ON FRIDAY, APRIL THE 10TH. 
          AND IT WAS ALSO SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE FINAL GRANT AMOUNTS AND THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED. 
          ON SLIDE 15, YOU CAN, UH, SEE THE, THE, WHERE WE STARTED WITH THE PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE AND THEN THE ACTUAL AMOUNTS THAT CAME IN ON APRIL THE THIRD. 
          AND YOU WILL SEE THE CHANGES IN THE GRANTS WHERE THE CDBG GRANT WAS REDUCED BY THAT 187 THOU $185,000. 
          THE NET INCREASE IS 574,000 OVER LAST YEAR. 
          BUT I WANT TO MENTION THAT THAT IS A RESULT OF A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR HOPPER GRANT AND THAT EVEN THE INCREASE FOR HOPPER WAS BEING OFFSET BY THE DECREASE IN CDBG AND ESG. 
          MOVING FORWARD TO SLIDE. 
          I'M SORRY, I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. 
          OH, THERE'S NO SLIDE. 
          YOU HAVE A POINT OF ORDER. 
          CHAIRWOMAN MENDELS, IS THAT YOU? YES. 
          PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. 
          UM, THE SCREEN IS NOT SHOWING THE PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF THAT COULD BE CORRECTED, THANK YOU. 
          SURE. 
          WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          IS ANYONE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT PROBLEM? I JUST, I JUST ASSUMED THAT SOMEONE WAS 
          [04:10:02]
ADDRESSING IT. 
          ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA JUST STAND AT EASE FOR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MINUTES HERE UNTIL WE GET THAT WORKED OUT. 
          OKAY. 
           AND THERE WE GO. 
          SLIDE 20. 
          DO WE JUST START? ALRIGHT, MEMBERS, I THINK THE PRESENTATION IS FUNCTIONAL NOW. 
          SO MS. MENDELSSOHN, THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT AND WE'RE READY FOR CHAN. 
          YOU CAN THANK YOU. 
          UH, JUST ON SLIDE 20, YOU CAN SEE THE USES OF FUNDS AND YOU'LL SEE THE CHANGES AND INCREASES AND DECREASES, UH, 2026 COMPARED TO OUR CURRENT YEAR. 
          ACTUAL FOR, UH, OUR CURRENT BUDGET, WHICH IS THE FISCAL YEAR 25 26, THE INCREASES IN DECREASES BY THE HUD CATEGORIES ACROSS ALL FOUR GRANTS. 
          AND MOVING TO SLIDE 34, WHICH IS OUR NEXT STEPS. 
          FOLLOWING TODAY'S PRESENTATION, COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO SUBMIT AMENDMENTS. 
          PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE DUE TO THE OFFICE OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES BY APRIL THE 24TH. 
          THEN ON MAY 6TH, SLIDE 37, SO YOUR AMENDMENTS ARE AGAIN, YOUR REMEMS ARE DUE, UM, BY TO BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES BY APRIL 24TH, WE WILL BE BACK AGAIN ON MARCH ON MAY 6TH, WILL COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND CONDUCT STRAW VOTES, PRELIMINARY ADOPTION AND CALL. 
          THE PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR MAY 13TH ON JUNE 10, WE WILL HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL ADOPTION IS SCHEDULED TO OCCUR ON JUNE 24TH. 
          AND WITH THAT, I, UH, WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          WONDERFUL JOB. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN. 
          RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES WE TOOK THE ITEMS OUT OF ORDER EVERYONE. 
          SO PUBLIC BOARD ON AGENDA ITEM, UH, BRIEFING ITEM B. 
          BRIEFING ITEM B. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          SO LOOKING AT PAGE 20, UM, THE, THE CHANGE COLUMN, IS THAT CAST IN STONE OR CAN WE REALLOCATE THESE EXCESS FUNDS FOR HOPPO ACTIVITIES TO THE HOUSING ACTIVITIES FOR EXAMPLE? NO SIR, YOU CANNOT, UH, RULES DO NOT ALLOW TO MOVE FROM GRANT 
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TO GRANT. 
          YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES WITHIN THE GRANT, BUT NOT, YOU CANNOT, HOPPO FUNDS HAVE TO BE USED FOR, FOR HOPPO ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES. 
          YOU COULD NOT MOVE THEM. 
          SO HOW DID THERE BECOME A DEFICIT IN CDBG HOUSING ACTIVITIES IN THE SURPLUS IN HOPA? WHO DECIDED THAT? SO IN THE RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE HOUSING ACTIVITIES, THAT IS TWO HOUSING PROGRAMS. ONE IS THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND THOSE ARE THE TWO PROGRAMS THAT WERE OUTSOURCED THIS YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND BECAUSE THOSE CONTRACTS AND SERVICES ARE JUST NOW RAMPING UP, THERE IS SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN THOSE TWO HOUSING CATEGORY ACTIVITIES TO COVER THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR. 
          SO THAT GAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THOSE FUNDS OUT FOR JUST 26, 27 AND YOU'LL SEE THAT INCREASE IN THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT ACTIVITIES, WHICH IS ONE TIME USE TO ADDRESS, THEY CAN BE USED TO SUPPORT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WITH INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WOW. 
          BUT IT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ONE TIME USE THOSE FUNDS TO ADDRESS ANY FACIL CITY FACILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, OR OTHER ELIGIBLE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT ACTIVITIES. 
          SO TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, HUD MADE THESE DECISIONS? NO, THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION AND THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          AND SIR, I'LL ADD TO THAT IN DISCUSSION WITH STAFF, UH, INCLUDING THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT STAFF, UH, IT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BECAUSE AS MS. WILLIAMS MENTIONED, THE UM, FUNDS THAT THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ALREADY HAS TO CONTINUE THOSE PROGRAMS. IN FISCAL YEAR 27 THIS YEAR WE FOUND THERE TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLOCATE IN CDBG MOVING $3 MILLION FROM HOUSING ACTIVITIES TO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND THEN WE REVIEWED THAT WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. 
          UH, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO MS. TOLBERT RECOMMENDED BUDGET. 
          THEY DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES. 
          NOW IT'S BEFORE COUNCIL. 
          IF COUNCIL, UH, CHOOSES TO MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS, UH, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT BEFORE WE FINALIZE THE BUDGET ONLY WITHIN THE GRANT CATEGORY. 
          SO YES. 
          SO THE FIRST, UH, SIX ROWS ARE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. 
          MM-HMM  YOU CAN MOVE AROUND WITHIN THE CDBG BLOCK GRANT. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          BUT NOT ACROSS OTHER GRANTS. 
          NOW THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS BECAUSE PUBLIC SERVICES AND PROGRAM OVERSIGHT ARE CAPPED CATEGORIES. 
          AND SO WE HAVE MAXIMIZED THE AMOUNT THAT WE CAN PUT INTO THOSE TWO LINE ITEMS. SO WE COULD NOT INCREASE PUBLIC SERVICES. 
          AND SINCE WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO RECOMMEND A REDUCTION IN HOUSING FOR THIS ONE YEAR ONLY, WE COULD NOT MOVE IT INTO PUBLIC SERVICES. 
          THEREFORE WE RECOMMENDED MOVING IT INTO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE YEAR. 
          SO, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE HOUSING ACTIVITIES, WHICH YOU'RE SAYING IS THERE WAS LEFTOVER MONEY FROM A PRIOR FISCAL YEAR THAT WOULD FULLY FUND OUR NORMAL HOUSING ACTIVITIES WITHOUT THIS 3 MILLION? YES, SIR. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          SO THE GRANT IS UNLIKE THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND, UH, THAT SEPTEMBER 30TH IS THE END. 
          THIS IS A MULTI-YEAR FUND. 
          SO ANY UNSPENT FUNDS ROLL FORWARD TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. 
          SO WITHIN THE HOUSING ACTIVITIES OF CDBG, THEY DO HAVE UNSPENT FUNDS FROM LAST YEAR AS WELL AS THIS YEAR THAT BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN THAT DELIVERY OF THOSE TWO PROGRAMS, THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE SAW THIS AS A ONE-TIME OPPORTUNITY TO ADD TO THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND AGAIN, COUNCIL CAN AMEND THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO IS HOUSING UNABLE TO SPEND THIS 3 MILLION? IS THAT WHY YOU, UH, THOR'S AVAILABLE ON THE SIDE? AND I'M GONNA ASK THOR TO ANSWER MORE PROGRAMMATIC QUESTIONS THAN I CAN ANSWER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THOR ERICKSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. 
          SO THOR HOUSING IS ONE OF OUR PRINCIPAL PRIORITIES IN THIS CITY. 
          YES SIR. 
          AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY WE WOULD REDUCE THE BUDGET FOR HOUSING ACTIVITIES BY 3 MILLION WHEN IT IS SUCH A PRIORITY. 
          SO PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THE, THE MAIN REASON FOR THIS ONE YEAR IS DUE TO OUR TIMELINESS TEST, THE NEED TO SPEND OUR FEDERAL FUNDS FROM THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN A TIMELY MANNER TO ENSURE WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDS MOVING FORWARD. 
          TWO BIG DECISIONS WERE MADE, OUTSOURCE HOME REPAIR AND, AND DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AS THEY HAD SOME ADMINISTRATION CHALLENGES. 
          FROM OUR STAFFING STANDPOINT, BOTH OF THOSE VENDORS ARE JUST GETTING UP AND RUNNING. 
          WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO REALLY PROVIDE THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND STAND THEM UP SO THEY'RE AS EFFICIENT AS THEY CAN BE. 
          GIVEN THAT AND THE TIMELINESS TEST AND HAVING PROJECTS THAT ARE READY IN THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT, IT'S A SUPPORTED ARGUMENT THAT WE NEED TO FUND PROJECTS THAT CAN SPEND THE MONEY RIGHT 
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NOW THIS YEAR AND COME BACK TO HOUSING AS WE WORK WITH OUR VENDORS TO GET THOSE PROGRAMS UP AND RUNNING AND THEN CONTINUE TO FULLY FUND THEM FOR YEARS. 
          BUT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE ARE BOTH FIXING THE EXPENDITURE RATE AND LOOKING AT A WAY TO SPEND MORE MONEY FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO RIGHT NOW. 
          SO HOW DID WE END UP WITH A SURPLUS OF 763,000 FOR HOPWA ACTIVITIES? WHY WAS IT PLACED THERE? THAT IS A FORMULA BASE BASED ON CENSUS DATA THAT HUD ALLOCATED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE DON'T CONTROL THAT. 
          SO WE DON'T REALLY CONTROL THAT. 
          NO, WE DO NOT. 
          THAT PIECE, WE DID NOT THAT PIECE WE DID NOT CONTROL, UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, IN THE ALLOCATION TO THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          UH, CDBG WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE BIG INCREASE WAS IN THE HOPWA GRANT. 
          AND THAT'S BASED ON, WELL, IF THEY'RE BOTH, IF THEY'RE BOTH INDEXED TO POPULATION, WHY WOULD ONE GO ONE DIRECTION AND ONE GO THE OTHER DIRECTION? IT'S BASED UPON WHAT IS ALLOCATED FOR EACH OF THOSE PROGRAMS AT A FEDERAL LEVEL. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE ALLOCATED BASED UPON, SO IT'S BASED UPON THE AMOUNT OF THE POOL, THE, THE PIE GOT BIGGER FOR HOPWA. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          MS. BLAIR. 
          YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON, UH, BRIEFING ITEM B. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, STAYING WITH THE CONVERSATION OR THE QUESTIONS THAT CHAIR BRITTLEY HAVE, AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE HOME IMPROVEMENT AND THE HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THERE WAS A CHANGE IN, IN THE SERVICES WERE OUTSOURCED, SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN-HOUSE, BUT CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY, HOW MANY, UM, APPLICANTS DO WE STILL HAVE IN THE HOPPER FROM THE LAST TIME WE DID HAVE IT? AND, AND HOW MANY OF 'EM WERE LEFT UNSERVED? UM, THANK, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 
          UM, HOME REPAIR IN GENERAL RECEIVES, UM, UPWARDS TO CLOSE TO A THOUSAND APPLICATIONS. 
          ANYTIME WE OPEN THAT POOL. 
          UM, WE DON'T PROVIDE A WAIT LIST FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. 
          SO EVERY YEAR, NEW APPLICATIONS OPEN. 
          OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE ENDED UP WITH EIGHT DIFFERENT HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER. 
          SO AT THE WILL OF COUNCIL, WE AMENDED THAT TO HAVE ONE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM THAT WE THEN OUTSOURCE TO VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA. 
          SO THAT IS PART OF THE BACKLOG, PART OF THE COMPETITION THAT HAD BEEN CREATED FROM DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY AND DIFFERENT SPECIFIC INTERESTS FOR HOME REPAIR. 
          UM, THE PEOPLE LEFT UNSERVED, THE MONEY FROM CDBG SERVES ROUGHLY A HUNDRED ISH PEOPLE WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY DEDICATED ON ANY GIVEN YEAR, DIFFERENT YEARS HAD DIFFERENT RATES BECAUSE THEIR PROGRAMS HAD DIFFERENT AMOUNTS ELIGIBLE. 
          SO IT WENT EVERYWHERE FROM 35 PEOPLE SERVED TO 200 HISTORICALLY, DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNT PER PERSON. 
          UM, THEN WE LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR IT. 
          BUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS SPEAKING ABOUT HOME REPAIRS AND ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. 
          SO WHEN WE, SO, UM, I'M HAVE, I'M STRUGGLING WITH, WITH REMOVING THE FUNDING BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE ARE RESIDENTS ALL OVER THE CITY WHO NEEDS THE HOME, UM, BUYER'S ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, AS WELL AS THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY I, I WILL ONLY SPEAK FROM MY DISTRICT, BUT I KNOW ALL THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, ALL THROUGHOUT THE NORTH, THERE, THERE, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO ARE NOT GONNA SEE THIS PROGRAM UNTIL NEXT YEAR, COME BACK TO, TO FRUITION. 
          IF THAT'S NOT, IF, AM I CORRECT? SO THE, THE FOLKS THAT WERE ALREADY, UM, UNDER A CONTRACT THAT WE WORKED WITH IN OUTSOURCING ARE THE FIRST PEOPLE TO BE SERVED THROUGH HOME REPAIR. 
          THE CONTRACT TO VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA INCLUDED A COUPLE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES TO BE ABLE TO, TO WORK ON THAT. 
          WE DO ANTICIPATE A NEW ROUND OF APPLICATIONS SOON BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE PART OF THIS YEAR'S CDBG ALLOCATION AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT, WHICH THEY HAVE TO GET UP AND RUNNING IN ORDER TO START THAT SPEND RATE, HAVING MONEY ALLOCATED IN THIS NEXT YEAR WHEN THEY'RE, THEY HAVE A YEAR AND A HALF OF FUNDING TO GET THROUGH OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF IS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION TO RE UM, DECREASE THIS AMOUNT FOR THIS ONE YEAR AND THEN NEXT YEAR RAISE IT BACK UP TO FULL LEVEL OF WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY BECAUSE THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE OF VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA WILL BE READY TO RECEIVE MORE FUNDS TO CONTINUE TO SERVE PEOPLE AT THAT TIME. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          SO YOU ARE, SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT RIGHT NOW THE PROJECTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE HOPPER, UM, YOU CAN, THAT, THAT ALL THAT REVENUE CAN BE SPENT THIS YEAR? NOT THIS YEAR. 
          THE CONTRACT ALLOWS THEM UP TO TWO YEARS TO SPEND THAT ROUGHLY $10 MILLION IN DIRECT DELIVERY MONEY THAT WE HAVE FOR HOME REPAIR. 
          UM, I, I RECALL THAT'S GONNA SERVE OVER 200 PEOPLE. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER RIGHT NOW FROM FOLKS THAT 
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HAVE APPLIED WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          YES. 
          SO YOU HAVE 200, ROUGHLY 200 PEOPLE ALREADY THAT YOU ARE GONNA SERVE WITH A HOME REPAIR. 
          WHAT ABOUT THE HOME BUYER'S ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE? THERE ARE, UM, A, A HANDFUL OF FOLKS THAT WERE, HAVE IDENTIFIED A HOME HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH A LENDER, AND AS BCL OF TEXAS GETS UP AND RUNNING, WHICH WE ANTICIPATE TO BE MAY 1ST, UH, THOSE FOLKS, FOLKS WILL BE FIRST TO, TO GET SERVED BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY CLOSE TO THE, THE CLOSING TABLE. 
          ALL THE OTHER APPLICANTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED WILL BE, UH, REFERRED OVER TO START CONVERSATIONS WITH WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR HOME BUYER JOURNEY. 
          UH, MANY PEOPLE START AN APPLICATION FOR HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE, THAT IS THE GOAL FOR THE YEAR. 
          UM, BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS FOUND A HOME OR IS ACTUALLY READY TO REACH THAT CLOSING TABLE. 
          SO THAT PROGRAM OPERATES A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF EVERYONE WHO APPLIED FOR HOME REPAIR NEEDS HOME REPAIR. 
          UM, EVERYONE WHO APPLIES FOR HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE WANTS TO BUY A HOME, BUT THEY MAY NOT BE READY FOR THAT. 
          SO, BUT WE, IF WE HAVE THE, THE, THE, UM, IF WE HAVE THE HOUSINGS THAT IS READY TO BE PURCHASED AND THEY'RE STARTING THE PROCESS, HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE CAN YOU SERVE RIGHT NOW? SO I BELIEVE THE CONTRACT OUTSOURCING TO BCL, UM, WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDS CAN SERVE, I BELIEVE 26, 27 PEOPLE WITH THE CDBG HOME FUNDS FROM WHAT'S CURRENTLY AVAILABLE. 
          AND THEN DEPENDING ON, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MONEY THROUGH TIF DISTRICTS THAT WERE ALLOCATED TO SPECIFIC REGIONS IN THE CITY. 
          PARTS OF DISTRICT FOUR, PARTS OF DISTRICT SIX, PARTS OF DISTRICT SEVEN, UH, HAD ELIGIBLE FUNDS, UM, FOR HOME BUYERS IN THOSE AREAS. 
          SO THERE'S ONLY FOUR, SIX, AND SEVEN THAT HAVE AVAILABILITY FROM THE, FROM THAT, UM, THAT CURRENT WORK, YES. 
          SO 4, 4, 6. 
          AND PART OF DISTRICT ONE, SORRY, TWO, THAT ONE AND FOUR SPLITS SHARES IN AREA. 
          SO 1, 4, 6, 7, 6, AND SEVEN. 
          SO, AND THERE WON'T BE ANY FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FROM THE, THE ALLOCATIONS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR? THAT'S THE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THAT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, UM, THAT'S ALL FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU MR. ROTH. 
          YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES? I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          MS. MENDELSON CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WELL, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE TAKING THE HOME REPAIRMENT OUT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A PRIORITY FOR US, THE WAY WE HAVE SHIFTED THE FUNDING FOR THE NONPROFITS, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH WORK TO DO WITH THE SCOPES AND ALL OF THE HUD REGULATIONS AND MATERIALS AND PLANNING, ALL OF THE SCHEDULING FOR THINGS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SPEND ALREADY ALLOCATED TO THEM. 
          AND SO, UM, CHAN, IS THAT WHY YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, ONE-TIME USE DOLLARS? YES, MA'AM. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND SO WITH THE ONE-TIME USE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A BIG OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS, ESPECIALLY AMERICANS WITH DISABILITY ACT NEEDS AT OUR CITY FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY PUBLIC FACING ONES LIKE OUR LIBRARIES AND OUR REC CENTERS, UM, COURTS, UM, CULTURAL ARTS CENTERS, OTHER, UM, MULTIPURPOSE LOCATIONS. 
          HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THOSE TO PRIORITIZE TAKING CARE OF SOME OF THOSE ITEMS? YES, WE HAVE. 
          UM, WE, AND AS THEY COME UP TO US, WE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSING THOSE. 
          WE'VE JUST COMMITTED, COMPLETED SOME A DA COMPLIANCE AT THE SOUTH DALLAS CULTURAL CENTER. 
          SO YES, MA'AM. 
          WELL, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT UNDER 3 MILLION TO PUT TOWARDS THAT. 
          AND I WOULD SAY YOU PROBABLY HAVE WAY MORE THAN 3 MILLION IN NEEDS JUST FOR ADDRESSING PUBLIC FACE PUB, PUBLIC FACING CITY FACILITIES IS, I MEAN, IS JOHN JOHNSON GIVING YOU A LIST? IS THERE A LIST CREATED? I HATE TO EVEN HAVE TO ASK THAT QUESTION. 
          ASSUMING THERE'S A LIST. 
          I'M SURE THERE'S A LIST, BUT OF COURSE WE WOULD NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD UNTIL WE WERE SURE WHAT ALLOCATIONS THERE WERE. 
          BUT YES, THERE'S A LIST AND WE HAD STARTED WORKING. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE GOT, WE RECEIVED SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD WORKED ON UNDER THE A DA COMPLIANCE ALREADY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I HAVE A REC CENTER THAT'S LITERALLY NOT A DA COMPLIANT, THERE'S NOT EVEN A RAMP TO GET TO THE CURVE. 
          THAT'S A DA COMPLIANT. 
          SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE THAT . 
          UM, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO PUT IN AS AMENDMENT SPECIFIC A DA PROJECTS OR YOU ALREADY KNOW THEM? 
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HOW IS THAT WORKING? IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT YOU HAVE? SURE. 
          WE WOULD LOVE TO, UH, RECEIVE THOSE. 
          AND WE WILL ALSO BE WORKING WITH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THE A DA COMPLIANCE LIST AND OTHER CITY FACILITIES THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, UH, FOR THESE FUNDS. 
          BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO, UH, EXPEDITE EXPENDITURE FOR ALL THOSE THINGS THAT ARE SHOVEL READY THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH QUICKLY. 
          SO WOULD IT BE YOUR INTENTION TO HAVE A SMALLER NUMBER OF HIGH DOLLAR PROJECTS, OR ARE YOU HAPPY TO HAVE A LOT OF SMALLER PROJECTS THAT JUST TAKE CARE OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN LINGERING ELIGIBILITY FIRST AND THEN AS THEY COME TO US, WE WOULD ADDRESS THOSE? I DON'T REALLY HAVE A IN MIND OF, YOU KNOW, SMALL PROJECTS, LARGE PROJECTS, BUT WE WOULD WANT TO ADDRESS PRIORITY NEEDS DEPARTMENT ELIGIBILITY, AND THEN BY PRIORITY ADDRESS THOSE. 
          AND, AND ALSO I'LL, I'LL ADD TO HAN'S STATEMENT THERE ABOUT, UH, BEING SHOVEL READY BECAUSE, UH, OF COURSE WE HAVE REGULATIONS ABOUT THE TIMELY EXPENDITURE OF OUR CDBG FUNDS. 
          SO THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS, UH, ONE TIME INFUSION AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO MOVE SOME OF THE, MOVE SOME OF THE FUNDING OUT THE DOOR QUICKER. 
          WELL, I'LL GIVE AN EXAMPLE. 
          WE HAD A PUBLIC SPEAKER WHO TALKED ABOUT, UM, AN AREA IN SOUTHERN DALLAS WHERE IT'S CLOSE TO A SENIOR CENTER, UH, SENIOR LIVING CENTER, AND FOLKS IN A WHEELCHAIR ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO INTO THE STREET BECAUSE OF A LACK OF SIDEWALK IN THIS ONE SECTION. 
          WOULD THAT BE ELIGIBLE? YES, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          MOST LIKELY IT WOULD, DEPENDING ON LOCATION. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I HOPE WE'LL DO THE MOST DANGEROUS CHALLENGING THINGS. 
          LIKE, TO ME, THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST THING WE DO. 
          ANY PLACE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO GO INTO THE ROADWAY BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE DISABLED. 
          LIKE THAT'S A NO NO-BRAINER. 
          AND SO I'M HOPING STAFF ALREADY KNOWS THOSE LOCATIONS, WHETHER THAT'S FROM THE CONVERSATIONS AT THE HORSESHOE, WHETHER THAT'S 3 1 1 OR, OR THEIR OWN EXPERIENCE WITH IT. 
          BUT, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE. 
          I MEAN, D 11, THERE'S ALSO A SECTION OF SIDEWALK MISSING AND IT'S NEXT TO LOW INCOME HOUSING, AND PEOPLE WILL LITERALLY BE IN THE, IN ON OR ON HILLCREST BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TO, TO TRAVERSE IT. 
          SO, I MEAN, IS THERE A WAY YOU COULD ASK COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ALERT YOU TO THOSE PROJECTS, TO PRIORITIZE THEM? YES, WE COULD. 
          WELL, I, I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE PROJECTS IN THE CITY, BUT IF WE COULD ALL TELL YOU THEM, THEN STAFF COULD EVALUATE 'EM AND PUT 'EM ON A LIST. 
          I, I DON'T HAVE TO SEE 'EM ALL TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT, UM, FACILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS THAT ARE A DANGER TO PEOPLE THAT WE COULD REMEDIATE WITH, YOU KNOW, $3 MILLION. 
          SO I HOPE THAT THAT'S WHAT, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO. 
          AND THAT'LL HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT COMPLIES WITH VISION ZERO, BUT FOR THE A DA SIDE, WE HAVE TAXPAYERS WHO ARE PAYING FOR FACILITIES THEY CAN'T EVEN USE 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T ACCESS THEM. 
          SO AGAIN, I HOPE THAT'S WHAT OUR PRIORITY BECOMES. 
          UH, MY FINAL QUESTION IS FOR THE CDBG, UM, IS THERE A CATEGORY WHERE THERE'S FUNDING THAT WOULD HELP FUND THE, UH, HOMELESS TINY HOME VILLAGE THAT WE'RE PURSUING? FUNDS COULD BE USED FOR CONSTRUCTION, BUT ANY OPERATING COSTS WOULD BE PART OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES CATEGORY. 
          AND THAT IS KEPT, SO FOR SERVICES AND OPERATIONS, IT'S THE CAP CATEGORY FOR PUBLIC SERVICES UNDER CDBG. 
          BUT FOR THOSE CONSTRUCTION RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE TYPE PROJECTS, PUBLIC FACILITIES, THERE WILL BE FUNDING AVAILABLE. 
          SHANNON, IF I MAY, UH, THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS UNDER CDBG REQUIRE THEM TO BE PERMANENT HOUSING STRUCTURES, AND THE PATE SHELTERS ARE TEMPORARY SHELTERS IN NATURE. 
          SO I DON'T BELIEVE CDBG WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT. 
          HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE SOME FEDERAL FUNDS ELIGIBLE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT IN THAT PROJECT, BUT NOT THE UNIT, THE, NOT THE VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION THEMSELVES. 
          JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. 
          THANKS. 
          SO SITE PREPARATION WOULD, WOULD QUALIFY, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, WE ARE STILL, UM, VERIFYING THAT AND WE WILL HAVE A MEMO UPDATE AT HOUSING COMMITTEE SHORTLY ON, UH, USE OF FUNDS AND POTENTIAL, 
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UH, RESOURCES AVAILABLE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I KNOW WE DID IDENTIFY SOME FUNDS, BUT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT ONE FOR SITE PREP. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ROTH. 
          YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION ALSO, UH, ON THE, UH, HOPWA FUNDS, UM, ARE THOSE, ARE THE CRITERIA SIMILAR TO THE CDBG FUND ALLOCATIONS OR THOSE, THOSE HAVE DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR ALLOCATIONS? THEY DO HAVE DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR ELIGIBILITY. 
          FOR HOPWOOD, YOU MUST HAVE A MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS AND YOU, AND YOU MUST BE LOW INCOME FOR CDBG PRIMARILY LOW INCOME, LOW AND MODERATE INCOME. 
          BUT FOR HOPWOOD, YOU HAVE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO BE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME, BUT YOU ALSO MUST HAVE A MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS. 
          AND THEN, UM, AND HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW DO THEY ALLOCATE THAT WE GOT $10 MILLION FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM? IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE REQUESTED BASED ON PROJECTED, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO OR PROJECTED? OR IS IT THIS MONEY THAT HUD SAYS WILL GIVE YOU 10 MILLION AND YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPEND IT OVER TWO YEAR PERIOD OR WHATEVER IT IS? HOW DOES, HOW DO, HOW DOES THAT WORK THAT, HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE'RE GETTING FROM THESE PEOPLE? THE HOPPO ALLOCATION, THE HOPPO ALLOCATION IS BASED ON A FORMULA FROM HUD, HUD ALLOCATES BASED ON, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE POSITIVE AIDS CASES IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE POT FOR HOPWA IS BIGGER THAN THE AMOUNT THAT'S ALLOCATED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL FOR CDBG. 
          SO BECAUSE THE APPROPRIATION IS BIGGER AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE AMOUNT THAT COMES TO DALLAS IS BIGGER. 
          WHEREAS WITH CDBG, THAT APPROPRIATION CONTINUES TO BE EITHER AT LEVEL FUNDING WITH MORE ELIGIBLE GRANTEES OR THE AMOUNT IS REDUCED. 
          SO THE AMOUNT TO THE CITY GETS SMALLER. 
          AND SO, UM, IF WE DON'T USE THAT MONEY, IT GETS LOST. 
          IT GOES BACK TO HUD FOR HOPWA? YES, THAT IS MULTI-YEAR FUNDS. 
          SO IT DOES ROLL OVER. 
          IT'S NOT MANY YEARS. 
          IT'S A ONE YEAR ALLOCATION, HOW WE HAVE UP TO FIVE YEARS TO SPEND THAT. 
          AND WE HAVE NOT HAD TO RETURN UNSPENT HOPWA DOLLARS. 
          SO IF WE'VE GOT $10 MILLION WORTH OF HOP, WE THAT 10 MILLION WHEN IF IT'S USED, THEN, THEN IT'S FINISHED. 
          BUT IF IT'S NOT USED, IT KEEPS ROLLING OVER TO UP FIVE ROLLS OVER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, HAVE WE, DO WE HAVE TO, UM, DETERMINE PROJECTS FOR THAT, FOR THAT, UH, THAT, UH, THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS WITHIN SOME KIND OF A TIME TIMELY BANNER? YES. 
          SO THERE'S A NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT IS CONDUCTED BY THE RYAN WHITE PLANNING COUNCIL, WHICH IS THROUGH PART OF DALLAS COUNTY. 
          THERE'S A NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT THEY CONDUCT BECAUSE THE RYAN WHITE BUDGET AND THE PLANNING COUNCIL RECEIVES MUCH MORE HOP, UH, HOPWOOD FUNDS MEDICAL SERVICES, AND THEY DO MORE. 
          SO WE LEVERAGE OUR DOLLARS. 
          SO OUR FUNDING IS PRIORITIZED AND INCONSISTENT WITH THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT FOR THE DALLAS AREA. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'VE GOT 2,000,007 HERE FOR FACILITY BASED HOUSING. 
          AND SO THAT'S MONEY THAT WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO HELP SOMEBODY BUILD AN APARTMENT OR A, OR A, UH, A, A LIVING SPACE OF A, OF A. 
          SO FOR FACILITY, A PROJECT, I'M LOOKING AT THE ATTACHMENT, THE LAST PAGE ON THE ATTACHMENT. 
          SO IN THE FACILITY BASED HOUSING THAT IS PLACE BASED, IT'S WHAT IT'S PLACE BASED, THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF ASSISTANCE. 
          THERE ARE SOME ELIGIBLE CLIENTS THAT LIVE IN A FACILITY THAT SPECIFICALLY SERVES THAT TARGET POPULATION. 
          AND THEN THE, THE LINE ONE IS MORE OF A VOUCHER WHERE PEOPLE LIVE INDEPENDENTLY AND THEY CAN TAKE AND LIVE WHERE THEY WANT TO LIVE. 
          THE FACILITY BASED IS WHERE WE HAVE A PROVIDER THAT HAS ACTUAL UNITS AND THAT'S TARGETED FOR THAT FACILITY IN THE ENTIRE FACILITY. 
          SO IF WE HAVE A, IF WE, IF WE ARE, UH, SUPPORTING A DEVELOPER TO BUILD THIS KIND OF A FACILITY, THEY ACCESS THIS MONEY TO HELP, UH, AS A GRANT TOWARDS THEIR, THEIR PROJECT. 
          WHILE THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THESE GRANT FUNDS, THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, IMPROVEMENTS OR FACILITIES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT MONEY PARKED. 
          WHEN WE HAVE RECEIVED REQUESTS FROM NONPROFITS OR ENTITIES THAT NEED REPAIRS, WE WILL TAKE THAT TO THE COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION INTO THE BUDGET. 
          BUT IF WE DON'T RECEIVE THOSE RE REQUESTS, THEN THOSE FUNDS ARE DIRECTED TOWARD ACTUAL SERVICES. 
          SO HW O2, THE FACILITIES BASED HOUSING 
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FUNDS, THAT 2,000,007 COULD GO TO NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW IMPROVEMENTS, NEW, IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEFINITION IS FOR MAINTENANCE OR OPERATIONS OF THOSE KIND OF PROJECTS? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND THE DEVELOPER THEN HAS TO REQUEST IT THROUGH US, THROUGH THE CITY, AND THEN WE CAN ALLOCATE THAT AS A GRANT OR AS A, AS A, UH, A, UH, A HAUA CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE FACILITATING OF THAT, OF THAT PROJECT AND, AND HELPING THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE RECEIVE A REQUEST FOR SOME PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT FACILITIES THAT TARGETS THE ELIGIBLE HAUA POWER POPULATION. 
          WE WOULD GET, ALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT PROJECT, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE COMPLIANCE. 
          HOW MUCH MONEY OF THIS 10 MILLION HAS ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED TO SOMETHING? DO WE KNOW OF THIS 10 MILLION? NO PROJECT FOR CON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT TYPE PROJECTS FOR HOPWA IS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT 2,000,007 IS STILL AVAILABLE, THAT 2,000,007 IS ALLOCATED TO A FACILITY THAT IS ALREADY SERVING CLIENTS? OH, IT IS, YES. 
          IT'S NOT A NEW FACILITY? NO, THESE ARE FACILITIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE THAT THEY ALREADY TARGET AND PROVIDE SERVICES TO PEOPLE IN A FCI IN A UNIT THAT IS DEDICATED TO ELIGIBLE CLIENTS. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND ALSO WITH REGARD TO THE, TO THE, UH, THE KNOWLEDGE OF IT TO, TO FOLLOW UP ON, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN'S POINT, I, IF THERE ARE FUNDS AVAILABLE, UH, UNDER EITHER THE CDBG OR, OR SOME OF THESE OTHERS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE ABILITY TO HELP, UH, SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY AREAS THAT WE NEED TO SERVE FOR SIDEWALKS OR FOR RAMPS OR STUFF, UM, I, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE PROMOTING TO YOU ALL TO TELL YOU WHAT THIS HAS DONE, I, IT IT'S, IT'S REALLY GOOD INFORMATION TO KNOW THAT WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE IN TRYING TO SOLICIT THOSE PROJECTS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AND, AND LETTING OUR DISTRICTS TELL YOU WHAT WE NEED IT SO THAT WE COULD USE UP THESE FUNDS. 
          WE DON'T WANNA LOSE THEM, SO, OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND SO I DID WANT TO ADD THE, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT, UH, CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT IS PART OF THE USE OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, HOPWA, ESG, AND HOME FUNDS. 
          IT ACTUALLY BEGAN IN JANUARY. 
          UH, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT, I BELIEVE YOU HAD SIX COMMUNITY MEETINGS. 
          UH, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, WHICH YOU'VE ALL APPOINTED MEMBERS TO, IS VERY ACTIVE IN ENGAGING WITH THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, THESE FUNDS PROBABLY MORE THAN A LOT OF FUNDS, GET A LOT OF COMMUNITY, UH, UH, INPUT INTO THEM. 
          BUT THAT'S ALWAYS WELCOME. 
          SO THAT'S, SO THAT'S REALLY THE PATH IS TRUE. 
          IT IS PATH THROUGH OUR CDC, DC, OUR CDC COMMISSIONERS AND OUR CDC, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, GROUPS. 
          THAT'S THE ONES WHO ARE, IT. 
          IT'S, IT'S ONE PATH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          IT'S ONE PATH. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          WITH REFERENCE TO SLIDE 25, I'D LIKE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ELIGIBILITY FOR PROJECTS FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT GRANT FUNDS. 
          SO THIS INDICATES THAT THEY CAN BE USED IN HIGH NEED PRIORITY AREAS. 
          WHO DESIGNATES THOSE AND WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA? UH, THEY'RE DESIGNATED BASED ON CENSUS TRACK. 
          ACCORDING TO THE HUD RULES INCOME, 51% OF THE SERVICE AREA IS DE DETERMINED TO BE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME BASED ON CENSUS DATA. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, IT SAYS THAT ELIGIBLE PROJECTS MAY ALSO INCLUDE OTHER THAN SUPPORTING HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, COMPLYING WITH A DA REQUIREMENTS AND CITY FACILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE PARK SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA. 
          SO COULD THESE FUNDS BE USED FOR STREET REPAIRS, FOR EXAMPLE, OR SIDEWALK REPAIRS? YES. 
          IF THESE SIDEWALK IS LOCATED IN A LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PA AREA BASED ON CENSUS DATA, YES. 
          NOW WHAT ABOUT CITY FACILITIES? COULD IT BE USED FOR A DA IMPROVEMENTS IN CITY OWNED FACILITIES LIKE OH, CITY HALL A DA COMPLIANCE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE IN A CITY FACILITY OTHER THAN A DA? NO, ONLY A DA WOULD QUALIFY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND ONLY BECAUSE IT IS A DA RE UH, COMPLIANCE THAT WE'RE, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON FUNDS BECAUSE THAT'S A FEDERAL REQUIREMENT FOR A DA COMPLIANCE, AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE COULD USE ANY FUNDS AT CITY HALL. 
          I SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE WILL GO TO ITEM A 
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GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          IT'S A PLEASURE, HONOR, AND A PLEASURE TO SERVE AS YOUR COMPLIANCE SERVICES DIRECTOR, CHRIS CHRISTIAN. 
          I'M JOINED HERE BY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR CEDRIC SATA AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR ALI, UH, WHO ARE BOTH LICENSED PROFESSIONALS IN FOOD SAFETY AND WHO HELP OVERSEE OUR CONSUMER HEALTH DIVISION AND CODE COMPLIANCE. 
          TODAY WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT RECOMMENDED UPDATES TO CHAPTER 17 AND CHAPTER 50 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE STREET VENDORS. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THIS UPDATE IS TO ALIGN OUR CODE WITH STATE LAW, CLOSE A REGULATORY GAP, AND ENSURE PUBLIC HEALTH PROTECTIONS, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, CREATING A CLEAR, CONSISTENT AND ENFORCEABLE FRAMEWORK WHERE ONE DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXIST. 
          THIS SLIDE DEPICTS AN OUTLINE OF THE PRESENTATION WHERE I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH OUR CHAPTER, RECENT CHAPTER 17 UPDATE, EXPLAIN THE REGULATORY GAP RESULTING FROM THAT UPDATE AND WHY CHAPTER 50 IS THE APPROPRIATE FRAMEWORK MOVING FORWARD. 
          I WILL THEN COVER THE PROPOSED PERMIT STRUCTURE, KEY POLICY CONSIDERATIONS, AND OUR IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          IN DECEMBER OF 2025, THE CITY UPDATED CHAPTER 17 TO COMPLY WITH SENATE BILL 1 0 0 8. 
          THESE RULES ESTABLISH A UNIFORM STATEWIDE STANDARD FOR PERMITTED FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS SUCH AS RESTAURANTS, CATERERS, AND FOOD TRUCKS. 
          IMPORTANTLY, TEER DOES NOT APPLY TO STREET VENDORS OR FREE FOOD DISTRIBUTION ACTIVITIES. 
          AS A RESULT, THESE ACTIVITIES ARE NO LONGER ADDRESS ADDRESSED. 
          IN CHAPTER 17, THIS CREATED WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO AS A REGULATORY RESET, WHERE CHAPTER 17 IS NOW PROPERLY ALIGNED WITH STATE LAW, BUT A GAP EXISTS FOR ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF THAT FRAMEWORK. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          HISTORICALLY, SECTION 17 1 6 INCLUDED DEFENSES TO PROSECUTION FOR CERTAIN ACTIVITIES, INCLUDING FREE FOOD, DISTRI DISTRIBUTION. 
          IF BASIC HEALTH AND SAFETY PRACTICES WERE FOLLOWED. 
          THESE WERE DEFENSES, NOT AFFIRMATIVE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH LIMITED ENFORCEMENT RATHER THAN CLEARLY SETTING EXPECTATIONS AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN STREET VENDING DOES NOT FALL SQUARELY WITHIN OUR FOOD ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITY, WHICH CREATES CHALLENGES FOR MONITORING CONSISTENCY AND COMPLIANCE OVERSIGHT. 
          THIS IS NOT A FAILURE OF ENFORCEMENT. 
          IT IS A STRUCTURAL ISSUE IN THE CODE THAT WE ARE NOW PROPOSING TO CORRECT. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          CHAPTER 50 ALREADY GOVERNS STREET VENDOR ACTIVITY IN DALLAS, MAKING IT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR OVERSIGHT. 
          STREET VISITING, INCLUDING FREE FOOD DISTRIBUTION IS WIDESPREAD AND INCREASING, PARTICULARLY, PARTICULARLY DURING SEASONAL PERIODS. 
          FIELD OBSERVATIONS HAVE IDENTIFIED RECURRING PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND SANITATION CONCERNS THAT REQUIRE CLEAR STANDARDS. 
          THIS PROPOSAL IS ABOUT ALIGNING REGULATIONS WITH REALITY, PLACING THIS ACTIVITY WITHIN THE CHAPTER THAT ALREADY GOVERNS IT, AND ENSURING CONSISTENT CITYWIDE ADMINISTRATION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          WE ARE SEEING INCREASED FOOD DISTRIBUTION OCCURRING OUTSIDE TRADITIONAL REGULATED FOOD ESTABLISHMENT SETTINGS. 
          MANY INDIVIDUALS RECEIVING THIS FOOD ARE PART OF MEDICALLY VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. 
          OUR DATA SHOWS THAT 59% OF OBSERVED STREET VENDORS WERE SERVING TIME AND TEMPERATURE CONTROL FOR SAFETY FOODS, WHICH REQUIRE PROPER HANDLING TO PREVENT ILLNESS WITHOUT ADVANCED AWARENESS ARE BASIC SAFEGUARDS. 
          THE CITY HAS LIMITED ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT APPROPRIATE FOOD SAFETY PRACTICES ARE BEING FOLLOWED. 
          THIS PROPOSAL INTRODUCES REASONABLE NARROWLY TAILORED SAFEGUARDS TO REDUCE THAT RISK WHILE STILL ALLOWING THESE ACTIVITIES TO OCCUR. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT DOES KEY THREE THINK TO DOES THREE KEY THINGS, EXPANDS THE DEFINITION OF STREET VENDOR TO INCLUDE THE SERVICE OR DISTRIBUTION OF FOOD OR DRINK FREE OF CHARGE INTRODUCES A SIMPLE NO COST PERMITT REQUIREMENT. 
          AND THIRD, IT TAKES PREVIOUS PROVISIONS FROM CHAPTER 17 AND CONVERTS THEM INTO CLEAR AFFIRMATIVE REQUIREMENTS IN CHAPTER 50. 
          THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE OBJECTIVE, PRACTICAL, AND DESIGNED TO SUPPORT SAFE AND CONSISTENT SERVICE DELIVERY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
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THE PERMIT SERVES THREE PRIMARY PURPOSES, IDENTIFIES A RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION DOCUMENTS THE LOCATION AND FREQUENCY OF THE ACTIVITY AND ESTABLISHES BASIC FOOD SAFETY AND SANITATION CONDITIONS. 
          THE PERMIT IS FREE, ADMINISTRATIVE AND AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED IF ALL REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. 
          IT IS DESIGNED TO BE PREDICTABLE, ACCESSIBLE, AND EASY TO COMPLY WITH. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          WE ARE PROPOSING A GRACE PERIOD FOLLOWING ADOPTION 45 DAYS TO SET UP APPROVAL PERMIT APPLICATION. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA CONDUCT DIRECT OUTREACH TO NONPROFIT PARTNERS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND WELL KNOWN, WELL KNOWN VENDORS ABOUT THE NEW FRAMEWORK. 
          WE WANT TO DEVELOP A MODERNIZED PERMIT SYSTEM TO HANDLE THE PERMIT APPLICATIONS. 
          OUR APPROACH WILL BE EDUCATION FIRST COLLABORATIVE, AND FOCUSED ON SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION. 
          WE ARE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THIS IS ROLLED OUT IN A WAY THAT SUPPORTS BOTH COMMUNITY SERVICE AND PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          IN CLOSING, THIS PROPOSAL CLOSES A REGULATORY GAP AND ESTABLISHES A CLEAR CONSISTENT FRAMEWORK WITH A NO-COST PERMIT FOCUSED ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. 
          THIS ITEM IS SCHEDULED FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON APRIL THE 22ND. 
          I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. 
          UH, CHAIR JOHNSON. 
          FIVE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR. 
          UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER IF SHE WOULD, 'CAUSE I KNOW I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH, WITH THE, UM, LANGUAGE HERE AND WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, WORK TO BRING IT, UH, BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH LANGUAGE THAT DOES NOT BRING, UH, UNNECESSARY CHA CHALLENGES TO OUR STREET VENDORS? UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON FOR YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS. 
          UM, DEFINITELY WE WANTED TO, UH, WE HAD THIS BRIEFING SCHEDULED, UM, ON THE LAST BRIEFING AGENDA, AND WE, UM, HAD SOME OTHER PRIORITIES THAT WE WANTED TO ADDRESS. 
          SO WE BROUGHT IT BACK TODAY. 
          WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO GET COUNCIL MEMBER FEEDBACK, UH, TODAY, AND I KNOW THAT DIRECTOR, UM, CHRISTIAN HAS TAUGHT, HAS MENTIONED, UM, WHAT'S COMING ON THE APRIL 22ND AGENDA. 
          I THINK WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR COUNSEL IF NOTHING ELSE, TO HELP US MOVE, UH, THE ORDINANCE, UH, COMPONENTS OUT OF CHAPTER 17 INTO 50. 
          AND THEN IF YOU WANTED US TO CONTINUE ON ANY ADDITIONAL REFINEMENT OF LANGUAGE, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS, WE WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON DOING THAT, AND THEN BRINGING BACK ANY POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS, UM, AT A LATER DATE. 
          BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM THE COUNCIL AND PROCEED WITH, UH, YOUR GUIDANCE. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BA THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          CHRIS , DO YOU, UM, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF AN INHERIT, UM, RISK TO PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY? YEAH, SO I'LL START, AND THEN I'LL ASK PROBABLY ONE OF MY FOOD SAFETY PROFESSIONALS HERE TO CHIME IN. 
          UH, BASICALLY WHAT, WHAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED IN OUR INVESTIGATIONS AND OUR INSPECTIONS OF STREET VENDOR ACTIVITY, UH, IN THE 700 OR SO INSTANCES THAT WE HAVE TRACKED SINCE APRIL OF LAST YEAR, IS THAT 59% OF THE TIME THAT WE'VE GONE OUT TIME FOR TEMPERATURE CONTROL FOR SAFETY FOODS, WERE BEING SERVED AT THESE STREET KIND OF POPUP FEEDINGS. 
          UM, THOSE FOODS ARE REGULATED IN OUR RESTAURANTS. 
          WE HAVE ALMOST 8,000 RESTAURANTS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          WE HAVE VERY STRICT PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS AND GUIDELINES FOR RESTAURANTS. 
          UM, AND WE FEEL LIKE IN CO COMPLIANCE, OUR, ONE OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH, AND THAT'S CONSUMER HEALTH. 
          IT'S THE NAME OF THE DIVISION CHARGED WITH THIS. 
          UH, AND THESE CONSUMERS ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN PAYING CUSTOMERS THAT WALK INTO RESTAURANTS FOR US. 
          THEY DESERVE THE SAME PROTECTIONS. 
          THEY, THEY DESERVE EQUAL PROTECTIONS. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE PROPOSING THIS FRAMEWORK. 
          AND, AND, AND I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT THAT YOU JUST SHARED, BUT, UM, I'M ASKING MORE IN THE CONTEXT OF IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR, UM, THESE, UM, PROPOSED, UM, PERMITS IN THE NEW LANGUAGE TO BE DENIED BASED ON AN IMMINENT THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY OR PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          AND THEN IF AN APPLICATION WAS IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WOULD INDICATE SUCH RISK, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? NO, I CAN'T. 
          AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT LANGUAGE BEING REMOVED IF YOU WANT TO REMOVE IT, BECAUSE, WELL, I THINK IT SHOULD BE REMOVED BECAUSE 
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I THINK IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE LEAST BURDEN POSSIBLE, UM, UH, ON, ON THESE, UM, ACTS. 
          WE'RE OPEN TO THAT FEEDBACK, HAPPY TO REMOVE THAT LANGUAGE. 
          DENYING A PERMIT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE PLAN TO DO AS PART OF THAT APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          AS LONG AS THE REQUIRED FIELDS ARE COMPLETED, THE PERMIT WILL BE GRANTED AND WE'LL MAKE OUR DETERMINATIONS ABOUT COMPLIANCE IN THE FIELD. 
          SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WHY ARE WE NOT HAVING A NOTICE SYSTEM INSTEAD OF A PERMIT? BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS IF THE PERMIT IS ACTUALLY ASKING FOR THEM TO ENGAGE IN, UH, IN ORDER TO ENGAGE IN THIS ACTIVITY. 
          THEY ARE SEEKING GOVERNMENT'S APPROVAL FIRST. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THERE. 
          I THINK FOR ME PERSONALLY, I THINK A PERMIT KIND OF ESTABLISHES REQUIREMENTS VERSUS JUST A NOTICE. 
          A NOTICE TO ME SEEMS LIKE IF, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE NOTICE, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF VOLUNTARY. 
          UH, WHEREAS HAVING TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT AND RECEIVE A PERMIT, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE, UH, YOU HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN GUIDELINES AND OBLIGATIONS THAT WILL COME WITH THAT PERMIT, AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          A NOTICE JUST FEELS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE. 
          I, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YOU DID USE THE WORD REQUIREMENT, AND THAT'S EXACTLY AS I SEE IT AS WELL, WHICH I BELIEVE CREATES A PRIOR RESTRAINT ON CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED ACTIVITY. 
          AND SO I'M CURIOUS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE TO REFERENCE TURNER VERSUS LIEUTENANT DRIVER, THAT THERE'S CLEAR CASE LAW TO PROTECT A RELIGIOUS ACT. 
          AND IT SEEMS AS IF ANY REQUIREMENTS THE GOVERNMENT IS PUTTING IN AS, UH, STRINGENT, UM, PROCESSES TO, UH, DELIVER THOSE RELIGIOUS ACTS THAT WE HAVE, IN FACT, UM, INFRINGED ON THEIR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. 
          WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE NARROWLY TAILORED THIS FRAMEWORK IN A WAY THAT WILL UPHOLD LEGAL CHALLENGE, UM, THE FRAMEWORK WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE WORKED THROUGH STRATEGICALLY AND ARE CONFIDENT THAT IT WILL WITHSTAND LEGAL CHALLENGE IF THAT WERE TO BE THE CASE. 
          UM, PERMIT VERSUS NOTICE IS SEMANTICS. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU WOULD PREFER IT VIA NOTICE, YOU CAN ALSO GIVE US THAT FEEDBACK. 
          WE'LL TAKE THAT WE'LL GET BACK WITH THE ATTORNEYS AND DETERMINE IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH A NOTICE RATHER THAN A PERMIT REQUIREMENT. 
          BUT I WOULD STILL ADVISE THAT THE NOTICE BE 48 HOURS BEFORE ALL THE TIME VERSUS THE EXISTING FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW OF 24 HOURS ARE UP TO 48 HOURS AFTER, BECAUSE THAT LIMITS OUR, OUR ABILITY TO HAVE VISIBILITY AND TO ENFORCE. 
          I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. 
          AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE SEMANTICS ISN'T REALLY ABOUT HOW I PERCEIVE IT. 
          IT'S HOW I BELIEVE THE COURTS WOULD. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT THERE IS, UM, UH, SOME SPECIFIC ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE EXTRA SCRUTINY THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS BECAUSE OF THE TEXAS RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT, SPECIFICALLY ELIMINATING AN EXISTING ACCOMMODATION THAT IS ARTICULATED AS A RELIGIOUS FEEDING AND REPLACING IT WITH A PERMIT REQUIREMENT WITH CONDITIONS FOR THE REQUIREMENT. 
          AND WITH GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT BEING A REASON BEYOND, I THINK THAT WE HAVE NOW INFRINGED ON THE TEXAS, UH, RELIGIOUS FREEDOM OF RESTORATION ACT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. 
          AND AGAIN, TODAY WE WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE JUST SHARED. 
          UM, AND DEPENDING ON THE WILL OF THE BODY, WE WILL DEFINITELY, UM, WORK TOWARDS ANY REFINEMENTS, UH, THAT YOU WOULD WANT US TO, UM, TO CONSIDER AND, UM, AGAIN, BRING BACK, UM, LANGUAGE, UM, THAT THE COUNCIL SUPPORTS. 
          AND SO DEFINITELY WANTED TO, TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER UA TO HEAR FROM YOU AND THE REST OF THE BODY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR, UH, THOSE COMMENTS. 
          WE ARE NOT DEBATING AGAINST THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE, UM, SHARED THAT INFORMATION THAT IS IN THE STATE CODE, AND WE DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING CONSISTENT, UM, AND NOT CREATING ADDITIONAL, UM, POTENTIAL CHALLENGES, UH, FOR THE CITY. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, UM, I DO FULLY SUPPORT, OF COURSE, COMING INTO COMPLIANCE AND MOVING FROM 17 TO 50. 
          I THINK THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. 
          I THINK THAT IT BEING COUPLED WITH THESE HAPHAZARD, UM, AMENDMENTS IS VERY PROBLEMATIC AND IT PUTS THE CITY AT RISK FOR LITIGATION. 
          AND I, WHAT I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD DO IS NOT MAKE OURSELVES AS VULNERABLE AS THOSE THAT THIS TYPE OF AN ORDINANCE WOULD BE IMPACTED, WHICH IS, UH, THOSE ON OUR STREET WHO ARE GOING TO BE, BE FED. 
          UM, I, I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE WITH THEIR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM WOULD LIKE TO SERVE THOSE WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE AND NEEDY ON OUR STREET. 
          AND I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S A GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE BEEN ENGAGED. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE BEEN THE ACTUAL UNSHELTERED POPULATION. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT THE MOST VULNERABLE, 
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AND WE AREN'T EVEN PROVIDING A SEAT AT THE TABLE FOR THEM TO BE HERE. 
          AND I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, AND I ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ITS OVER BREADTH. 
          I THINK THAT THIS IS EXTREMELY TOO BROAD OF LANGUAGE. 
          I THINK WE HAVE, UH, ARTICULATED VERY CLEARLY THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT WHEN IT COMES TO THE IMMINENT THREAT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. 
          HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PASSES THE MUSTER IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS ORDINANCE APPLICABLE TO BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          UM, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT OPULENT LIFE CHURCH VERSUS CITY OF HOLLY SPRINGS, THE COURTS HAVE CLEARLY RULED AGAINST THE MUNICIPALITY BECAUSE OF ITS BROAD USE AND HOW WE CAN NO LONGER, UH, ARTICULATE THIS ORDINANCE TO BE NARROWLY TAILORED IF IT REGULATES FAR MORE ACTIVITY THAN IS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE ITS STATED GOALS, WHICH IT DOES IF WE ARE APPLYING THE SAME STANDARDS AND LAWS ON OUR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY THAN WHAT WE ARE GOING TO ENFORCE ON OUR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          SO THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER, UM, SPECIFIC POINTS THAT I CAN BRING UP AND POKE HOLES INTO THE LANGUAGE AS IT'S PRESENTED, WHICH IS WHY I BELIEVE WE NEED MORE TIME TO WORK THROUGH, UH, REAL LANGUAGE THAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE BETTER RESOURCES FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT TO ENFORCE. 
          BUT IF NOT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS PASSING SOMETHING TO ACT AS IF WE'VE DONE SOMETHING, AND THEN IN THE END, IT'S GOING TO BE HELD UP WITH A RESTRAINING ORDER IN COURT, AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GO AND BE REGRESSED IN THE WAY THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO ENFORCE THIS. 
          AND THAT'S THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO, CHRIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CHAIR STEWART. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          JUST AS AN EXAMPLE OF IMMINENT THREAT, IF YOU HAD A VENDOR WHO WAS EVERY SUNDAY SERVING IN THE SAME LOCATION, AND YOU COULD SEE THAT BECAUSE THEY REGISTER EACH TIME, BUT YOU COULD SEE A PATTERN OF, UM, FOOD, YOU KNOW, GETTING, GETTING THE, THE CONSUMERS GETTING SICK FROM, UM, EATING THE LUNCH OR, OR THE MEAL THAT WAS PROVIDED. 
          UM, AND YOU COULD SEE, YOU COULD ESTABLISH THAT PATTERN, WOULD THAT NOT BE IMMINENT THREAT? BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, I I THINK THERE MAY, IT SEEMS TO ME THERE ARE CASES, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU MAY GET INFORMATION FROM YOUR, UM, PERMIT REQUESTS, YOUR NOTICE REQUESTS, WHATEVER IT IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE REGISTERING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS EVENT AT THIS LOCATION. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS DAY, UM, YOU, YOU MAY GATHER SOME INFORMATION THAT DOES SHOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION IS POSING A THREAT TO OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION. 
          WE, WE MAY THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS, COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          AND IF THAT LANGUAGE WAS TO REMAIN IN THE ORDINANCE, THEN WE WERE ABLE TO ASCERTAIN CHALLENGES FROM A PARTICULAR EVENT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GO OUT AND TO CONFIRM THOSE CHALLENGES WITH OUR THERMOMETERS AND TAKING TEMPERATURE OF FOOD OR CHECKING THE STATUS OF FOOD THAT'S BEING SERVED, THEN WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE GROUNDS TO, TO DENY A PERMIT ON THOSE, ON THOSE, ON THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          BUT I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A RARE, UH, INSTANCE. 
          AND IF THAT LANGUAGE REMAINS, YES, HOPEFULLY IT WOULD BE, HOPEFULLY IT WOULD BE RARE. 
          BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE BALANCING HERE ARE RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS AND PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          YES. 
          AND THIS IS A VERY DELICATE BALANCE AND, AND IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGED, POTENTIALLY CHALLENGED. 
          UM, SO I THINK GIVING IT SOME MORE THOUGHT, POTENTIALLY TALKING, I'M SURE WE'VE TALKED TO OTHER CITIES AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO SEE HOW THEY'RE ADDRESSING THIS, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO GIVE UP ON THE GOAL THAT WE, OR THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO NEED TO PROTECT OUR, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN OUR CITY. 
          WE HAVE, I I HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW I OWNED A RESTAURANT FOR 10 YEARS AND, UM, I KNOW THE STANDARDS THAT WE REQUIRE FROM OUR PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS, FROM OUR BUSINESSES, OUR RESTAURANTS AND BARS, AND YOU GUYS HOLD US SLASH THEM TO A VERY HIGH STANDARD FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND, UM, I HAD MANY INSPECTIONS. 
          ONE INSPECTOR LOVE TO COME IN ON A FRIDAY AT 1230 WHEN WE WERE SLAMMED. 
          AND I'D BE LIKE, SO GLAD TO SEE YOU. 
          UM, SO LONG STORY SHORT, WE, WE ENFORCE THIS. 
          WE ARE VERY GOOD ABOUT ENFORCING THIS AND, AND MAKING THIS, YOU KNOW, OUR POLICY ACROSS THE CITY. 
          AND IT'S JUST HARD, UM, TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE BECAUSE THIS IS A VULNERABLE POPULATION AND ONE THAT WE SHOULD BE PROTECTING OUR THOUGHTS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE, THAT THIS BALANCE IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO PROTECT THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS. I DO, UM, WANNA SUGGEST THAT WE, UM, CREATE AN EXEMPTION FOR, UM, THE GROUPS THAT ARE MAYBE 20 TO 25 MEALS AND UNDER. 
          UM, SO IF, IF SOMEBODY IS TAKING 20 MEALS FROM THEIR POTLUCK 
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CHURCH SUPPER, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT REGISTRATION PROCESS REALLY FITS THAT SITUATION. 
          I THINK IT REALLY IS THE PEOPLE, THE CHURCHES WHO, UM, AND, AND RELIGIOUS GROUPS WHO ARE, HAVE A PLAN. 
          THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING OUT EVERY SUNDAY, THEY KNOW WHERE THEIR, WHAT THEIR LOCATION IS, AND WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT RECORD SO WE CAN SORT OF TRACK THAT AND HOPEFULLY, UM, ARE MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS, IS CARED FOR. 
          WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND, AND VET THAT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KIND OF FEEDBACK THAT WE WANTED AND IT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY BRIEFING, AND WE BRIEF QUALITY OF LIFE TWICE AND WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED INTO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. 
          AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE TO PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, BUT TO ALSO HONOR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. 
          AND SO THAT'S OUR GOAL AS WELL. 
          SENATOR , INTRODUCE YOURSELF. 
          SENATOR JATA, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEPARTMENT OF CODE COMPLIANCE SERVICES, UH, CM STEWART, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ENCOURAGING FEEDBACK. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ADD JACKS THE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE EMINENT THREAT, UM, AS DIRECTOR CHRISTIAN POINTED OUT, UH, WHEN HE MENTIONED TIME AND TEMPERATURE CONTROL OVER SAFETY FOODS, THOSE ARE FOODS THAT MUST BE PROPERLY MAINTAINED AT THE APPROPRIATE TEMPERATURE. 
          YES. 
          ANYTHING THAT IS NOT HELD AT THE APPROPRIATE TEMPERATURE. 
          COLD FOODS BEING HELD COLD AND HOT FOODS HELD HOT. 
          RIGHT. 
          135 DEGREES OR HIGHER, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO EXPONENTIAL PROLIFERATION OF FOODBORNE PATHOGENS. 
          YES. 
          AND THEY CAN'T BE STORED IN A COOLER, AS I RECALL, THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE IDEAL. 
          THAT WOULD NOT BE IDEAL. 
          THAT WOULD NOT NOT BE IDEAL. 
          IT WAS, IT HAD TO BE, I THINK, MECHANICAL REFRIGERATION, SOME FORM SOME FORM OF REFRIGERATION ON PICNIC THAT I HAD  TO MAINTAIN THE APPROPRIATE INTERNAL TEMPERATURES. 
          AGAIN, YES. 
          DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THEY'RE HELD IN THE, IN THE DANGER ZONE, WHICH IS YES. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S SUBJECT TO ANYBODY'S IMAGINATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, THE THE VIRAL THE VIRAL OR BACTERIAL LOGICAL LOADS ON THOSE ARE, CAN BE HIGH ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY CAUSE SOMEONE TO GET GRAVELY ILL. 
          YES. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY THE IMPETUS BEHIND US TRYING TO GET THIS PASSED. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE EVERY PERMIT HOLDER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ATTEND OUR CITY SPONSORED FOOD SAFETY FREE TRAINING CLASS. 
          YES. 
          FOOD SAFETY. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND THAT WOULD BE, GOSH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SO VALUABLE TO THEM. 
          RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT TEMPERATURE IS AND WHY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHY YOU HAVE THESE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE. 
          IT'S, IT'S, ONCE YOU GO THROUGH THOSE CLASSES, IT'S PRETTY LOGICAL. 
          RIGHT? IT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN HOPEFULLY THEN WORK AROUND AND, AND PROTECT BECAUSE I JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO HARM ANYBODY. 
          THEIR, THEIR HEARTS ARE GOLDEN AND IT'S THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THESE, THESE FOLKS GET FOOD. 
          SO THERE'S NO, UM, I JUST THINK IF THEY, YOU'RE RIGHT, IF THEY HAD THAT CLASS, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE AND A GOOD STEP FORWARD. 
          AND SO MAYBE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW DO WE DO THIS, BUT IF, IF IT'S GONNA BE A REGULAR OCCURRENCE, IF IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S SIGNING UP EVERY SUNDAY, THEY REALLY NEED TO TAKE THE CLASS. 
          IF IT'S THE ONE OFF, YOU KNOW, UM, EVENT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO DO THAT, BUT MAYBE THAT'S A TOO HIGH OF A BAR AND WE, WE ARE IN INFRINGING ON THEIR RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS THERE. 
          BUT IF IT'S A REGULAR OCCURRENCE, IT SEEMS TO ME IT'S, IT WOULD BE WISE TO ASK THEM FOR, TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT CLASS POINT WELL RECEIVED. 
          AND I WILL SAY WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ATTENDEES TO, UH, ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE USED WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED ELSEWHERE AT CHURCH, AT HOME AND SO ON. 
          SO IT'S THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING IT IS ONCE YOU KNOW THOSE THINGS AND YOU GO TO LARGE DINNERS, YOU LOOK AROUND AND GO, OH, . 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          CHAIR GRACIE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. 
          UH, I, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOVE TO, TO, UH, CHAPTER 50. 
          AND I DO APPRECIATE, UH, EVERYONE'S CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, PARTICULARLY AROUND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INFRINGEMENT ON, ON THE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, HAVING, YOU KNOW, GONE TO SEVERAL MISSION TRIPS AND, AND, AND EVEN LED A MISSIONS MINISTRY, UH, HERE IN THE CITY. 
          UM, I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THIS CAN DO THAT CAN BENEFIT COLLECT, PARTICULARLY IN HOW WE'RE TRYING TO DRIVE THESE ORGANIZATIONS TO ACTUALLY CONTINUE THE PARTNERSHIP. 
          SO YES, THE FOOD AND ALL OF THAT STUFF IS, IS GOOD, BUT THERE'S A BOOK CALLED WHEN HELPING HURTS, AND IT'S WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE AND YOU'RE SERVING, UM, AND YOU'RE DOING IT WITH THE, WITH THE GREATEST OF INTENTIONS. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED, YOU KNOW, OVER MISSION TRIPS IS WHEN YOU GO AND YOU COME BACK A YEAR LATER AND NOTHING'S CHANGED, IT'S LIKE, WELL, DID YOU REALLY HAVE AN IMPACT? AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, FROM A RELIGIOUS PERSPECTIVE, IF I MAY, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE A COLLECTIVE IMPACT. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST A ONE-OFF 
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EATING, NOT JUST THIS, BUT WE'RE WORKING COLLECTIVELY TO BRING A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO SOLVING IT. 
          SO I AM LISTENING AND WILL, UH, UH, PAY ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, BRING FORWARD. 
          BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY, I THINK THIS IS MOVING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BOTH AT THE CITY LEVEL AND QUITE HONESTLY IN THE MINISTRY LEVELS. 
          AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR, UH, CHAIR STEWART MENTIONED THAT EVEN SOME OF THE CHURCHES ARE PICKING UP ON SOME OF THIS, EVEN AT HOW THEY SERVE AT THEIR OWN, UH, LOCATIONS AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, I, I DO APPRECIATE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS, AND I REMAIN OPEN-MINDED TO THIS, BUT I, I ULTIMATELY SUPPORT MOVING TO CHAPTER 50, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACE CHAIRMAN MENDELSON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SICKENED OR HOSPITALIZED, UM, IN 2025 OR IN WHATEVER PERIOD YOU CAN SHARE? YES, MA'AM. 
          I CANNOT SAY FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS SPECIFICALLY, BUT ACCORDING TO THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION, ON AVERAGE, 48 MILLION PEOPLE ARE SUBJECT TO FOODBORNE ILLNESSES. 
          48 MILLION 128,000 ARE, UH, UNDERGO HOSPITALIZATION, AND 3000 UNFORTUNATELY SUCCUMB TO THE INFECTION. 
          BUT YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN HOSPITALIZED BECAUSE OF THESE EFFORTS IN THE PAST YEAR? NO, MA'AM. 
          WE ARE NOT DIRECTLY, UH, BECAUSE QUITE HONESTLY, THE POPULATION THAT WE SERVE ARE TRANSIENT. 
          UH, AND ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE STUDIES THAT WE'VE READ, UH, SPECIFICALLY ONE BY THE ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOLS AND PROGRAMS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, THEY SAY, AND I QUOTE, PEOPLE LIVING IN UNSHELTERED SITUATIONS, STAYING AT A PRIMARY NIGHT TIME, RESIDENTS NOT INTENDED FOR HUMAN HABITATION, OFTEN REPORT POORER HEALTH AND MORE SYMPTOMS OF PHYSICAL ILLNESS THAN THEIR SHELTERED COUNTERPARTS. 
          UNSHELTERED PEOPLE FREQUENTLY HAVE SERIOUS CHRONIC HEALTH CONDITIONS. 
          STUDIES SHOW THAT PEOPLE LIVING IN UNSHELTERED SITUATIONS ARE AT INCREASED RISK FOR PREMATURE DEATH. 
          SO MUCH OF OUR RESEARCH HAS INFORMED OUR POSITION HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THIS PERMIT REQUIREMENT AND THE OBVIOUS NECESSITY AND NEED FOR FOOD SAFETY TRAINING. 
          WELL, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT IS OBVIOUS. 
          UM, I, I WILL SAY THAT YOU'RE USING MEDICAL INFORMATION AND STATISTICS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS TO CONFLATE IT WITH FOOD SAFETY. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE, GIVEN MANY OF US HAVE SEEN THE, THE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS, ESPECIALLY THAT HAPPEN DOWNTOWN WHERE THERE'S 50, A HUNDRED, 200 PEOPLE, IF THERE WAS, UM, A FOOD SAFETY PROBLEM, YOU'D HAVE A MASS CASUALTY EVENT. 
          YOU'D HAVE THE ER OVERRUN WITH FOLKS THAT NEED ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PRIMARY CARE DOCTORS TO GO TO. 
          WOULDN'T YOU SAY? YES, MA'AM. 
          I WOULD CONCUR WITH YOU, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, UH, HAS THE COUNTY NOTIFIED YOU OF ANY INSTANCE LIKE THAT? NO. 
          AND, AND, AND IT'S COMMON, UH, IN THE, AMONG THOSE WITHIN THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL, THE FDA, THE USDA, THAT UNDER REPORTING IS A, IS A REAL THING. 
          AND SO OUR UNSHELTERED NEIGHBORS WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE ARE HIGHLY LI UNLIKELY, UH, TO SEEK MEDICAL CARE WHEN THEY BECOME ILL. 
          UH, MANY OF US IN THIS VERY ROOM HAVE LIKELY BEEN BEFALLEN BY WHAT WE MAY HAVE MINIMIZED AS A STOMACH BUG, UH, WHICH WAS FOODBORNE ILLNESS ON SOME DEGREE OR ANOTHER, BUT OUR IMMUNE SYSTEMS PERHAPS WERE, YOU KNOW, SUITABLE TO FIGHT OFF THAT INFECTION. 
          AND COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN, THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU. 
          UH, CEDRIC, I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THIS, THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT FOCUSED ON, ON DOWNTOWN DALLAS. 
          THIS IS TO UPDATE OUR STREET VENDOR CODE VERY, AND TO UPDATE OUR STREET BID FRAMEWORK. 
          WHERE IS EXACT TODAY? SUNDAY. 
          YES. 
          THEY CAME FROM COSTCO. 
          YEAH, YEAH, THEY DID. 
          OF COURSE. 
          WELL, ONE SECOND. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS WHO GOT THEIR MICS ON DIRECTOR CHRISTIAN, CONTINUE. 
          SORRY. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON. 
          BUT THE GOAL IS TO UPDATE OUR CITYWIDE STREET VENDING FRAMEWORK AND TO PREPARE OUR CITY FOR TOMORROW. 
          NOT JUST FOCUS ON THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE HAVING TODAY AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE FIELD AND ON THE GROUND TODAY, BECAUSE WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME CHALLENGES AND SOME GAPS. 
          BUT TO PREPARE OURSELF FOR TOMORROW AND TO ENHANCE AND EVOLVE OUR CODES AS OUR CITY EVOLVES AND AS THE NEED EVOLVES. 
          AND SO IT'S A LOT OF REFERENCES TO DOWNTOWN AND IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN. 
          BUT 
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THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT DOWNTOWN. 
          IT'S NOT THE WAY THIS FRAMEWORK IS WRITTEN. 
          IT'S A CITYWIDE STREET VENDING UPDATE. 
          WELL, I RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT MANY OF US HAVE SEEN THIS OCCURRING DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS KIND OF STRANGE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TOLD THE HOMELESS ARE NOT DOWNTOWN ANYMORE. 
          SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW THAT MATCHES UP. 
          AND AGAIN, IF PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM SHELTER, MEANING THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THE BRIDGE, THEY'RE COMING FROM AUSTIN STREET TO ENJOY DIFFERENT FOOD THAN WHAT'S OFFERED TO THEM, WHICH I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE, UM, THEY WOULD THEN BE RETURNING TO SHELTER, WHERE IF THEY WERE ILL, WE WOULD KNOW. 
          SO I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK THAT'S HAPPENING. 
          UM, OR AT LEAST THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT IT'S HAPPENING. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO MOVE THIS FROM THE CHAPTER 70, BUT I ACTUALLY WOULD MAKE THE CASE THAT THIS IS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY AND MAYBE INAPPROPRIATE AND INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE WE ARE ADDING JUST, I MEAN, WELL, THERE ALREADY IS A BUREAUCRACY IN PLACE. 
          IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARY. 
          AND THIS IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH. 
          WE HAPPEN TO HAVE MINISTERS ON OUR, OUR CITY COUNCIL. 
          WE HAVE NONPROFIT LEADERS, AND THIS IS A TENANT OF ALL MAJOR RELIGIONS TO FEED THOSE WHO ARE HUNGRY. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE WE ARE RESTRICTING THAT ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE THEIR VALUES. 
          UM, I I, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PURPOSE IS WHEN WE REALLY HAVE HAD NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT IS A HEALTH SAFETY ISSUE. 
          NOW, I HAVE SEEN WHERE PEOPLE ARE TAKING OVER PARKING LOTS, THAT SEEMS LIKE A CODE COMPLIANCE ORDINANCE ISSUE THAT YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF. 
          SAME THING FOR STREETS. 
          IF THEY'RE IN THE STREET, WHICH I THINK YOU AND I BOTH KNOW THAT'S HAPPENING, THEN YOU CAN REMOVE THAT. 
          SO THE EFFECTS OF IT, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE REGULATION FOR THE ACTUAL FOOD ISSUE. 
          I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE SHOWN THIS. 
          AND WHAT WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE ARE THAT WE HAVE VERY COMPASSIONATE, LOVING PEOPLE BOTH IN OUR CITY AND OUR REGION WHO WANT TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DO NEED HELP. 
          AND THEY DON'T JUST NEED THAT FOOD, THEY NEED THAT PERSONAL CONNECTION. 
          AND THAT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF OUR FORMAL SYSTEM, BUT STILL SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS ADDING VALUE IN THE KIND OF COMPASSIONATE COMMUNITY THAT WE TALK ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE. 
          SO I'M NOT FOR PUTTING THIS ANYWHERE. 
          I, I THINK UNTIL WE CAN QUANTIFY THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS REGULATION, THAT NEEDS A PERMIT, WHY, WHY ARE WE REQUIRING IT? I JUST, IT, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER BA'S POINT, I THINK WE'RE JUST SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR ANOTHER LAWSUIT. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE DATA TO SHOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY ONE THING, UH, CO COMPLIANCE, YES, WE CAN ADDRESS THE PARKING LOT PRIVATE PROPERTY ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER WHO OFTENTIMES DOES NOT EVEN KNOW THIS, THIS ACTIVITY IS TAKING PLACE ON THEIR PROPERTY. 
          BUT, UH, CO COMPLIANCE DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR JURISDICTION TO REMOVE ANYONE FROM THE STREET OR TO UNBLOCK SIDEWALKS. 
          SO, WELL, THE POLICE DO. 
          AND IF A PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THEIR PROPERTY, THEY NEED TO BECOME AWARE. 
          AND IF THEY KNOW THAT THIS IS A FEEDING THAT'S HAPPENING ON A SATURDAY OR A SUNDAY ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEY NEED TO STAFF IT. 
          THEY NEED TO PROVIDE SECURITY THAT'S PART OF PROPERTY OWNERSHIP. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          WE KNOW THAT THAT'S HAPPENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST ADD AND THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. CHRISTIAN AND TO THIS TEAM FOR THE RESPONSES, UH, TO THE QUESTIONS, UH, THAT WE CAN ANSWER. 
          THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, DEFINITELY WE DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. 
          UM, BUT I DID WANNA SPEAK TO, UM, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE ENCOUNTER IN THE FIELD. 
          UM, I THINK WE ALL VERY WELL KNOW THAT IF, UM, SOME CARS ARE BLOCKING THE STREET DUE TO THE STREET FEEDING THAT TAKE PLACE, UM, EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT THE WEEKENDS ARE SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, ROBUST, UM, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE HOLIDAYS. 
          UM, BUT HAVING THE OPTION THAT THAT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT DPD IS GOING TO COME AND, AND TAKE ON AS A PRIORITY CALL IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          AND SO I WANNA JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, MAKING IT APPEAR IF, IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE. 
          WE, WE KNOW THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE FOCUSED ON RESPONSE TIMES WHEN IT COMES TO TRUE PRIORITY ONE CALLS. 
          AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO UP, UH, INCREASE THE WORD INCREASE. 
          I'M SORRY, NOT UP, BUT WE HAVE INCREASED, UH, OUR STAFFING OVER THE WEEKENDS, UM, THROUGH, UM, NORMAL WE'VE, WE'RE SURPASSING NORMAL HOURS 
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TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING THE CODE TEAM ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, WHICH DOES HAVE A BUDGETARY IMPACT. 
          AND IF THAT'S THE WHAT DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS US TO CONTINUE, WE WILL DEFINITELY DO THAT. 
          WE ARE RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS, UH, INPUT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM SEVERAL MEMBERS AROUND THIS HORSESHOE ABOUT HOW WE CAN LOOK AT STREET FEEDING. 
          AND WHAT WE'VE BROUGHT IS OUR, OUR, UM, APPROACH. 
          AND DEFINITELY WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK AS THIS COUNCIL DIRECTS ON ANY POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS OR NO AMENDMENTS AT ALL. 
          UM, BUT WE ARE RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, UM, THAT WERE RAISED, UM, BY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO STAFF. 
          UM, BUT DEFINITELY WANT, WANTED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TODAY PUBLICLY SO WE CAN GET YOUR INPUT AND THEN WE WILL PROCEED, UM, AS DIRECTED. 
          SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ENA. 
          SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY, AND IT'S NOT REALLY ON STREET MANY, BUT IT'S SIMILAR WITH THE RELIGIOUS, UM, UH, PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO I KNOW WE HAD FOOD PANTRIES IN MY DISTRICT AND THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN THEY'VE BEEN DISTRIBUTING ITEMS AND SOMEBODY'S COME OUT, YOU KNOW, TO, UM, INSPECT AND SO THEY STILL HAD TO FOLLOW I THINK SOME OF THE PROCEDURES OF THE CITY. 
          CAN YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON THAT? UM, BECAUSE THAT HAS TO DO WITH SOME OF OUR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO, YOU KNOW, FEEDING IN A FOOD PANTRY SETTING. 
          SO THE FOOD INSIDE OF THE FOOD PANTRY? YEAH. 
          ON ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, YEAH. 
          WITH NO TEMPORARY EVENT PERMIT OR NO SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT OR WHAT TYPE OF FEEDING. 
          I REMEMBER ONCE IT WAS IN NORTHWEST DALLAS WHERE THEY WERE SEPARATING, UM, THE FOOD AND LIKE OPENING LIKE MAYBE, UH, UH, BEANS OR RICE OR CHEESE. 
          AND THEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER PERMITTING FOR, FOR DOING THAT. 
          NORA LEE, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR. 
          SO CAN YOU HIT YOUR, YOUR MIC PLEASE? OH, NORA LEE, CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR. 
          SO OUR TEAM DO GO OUT AND DO A ANNUAL INSPECTION ON, UH, FOOD PANTRIES. 
          UM, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS, UM, SOME OF THE SAME STANDARDS WE LOOK FOR IN FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          UM, AND IT DOES REQUIRE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT. 
          'CAUSE THERE, THERE IS A LOT OF TIMES, UM, PERISHABLE AND NONPERISHABLE FOODS. 
          THERE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR MAINLY THE STORAGE STANDARDS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO Y'ALL ARE LOOKING TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE THAT ARE RECEIVING THE FREE FOOD, RIGHT? YEAH, I MEAN I GREW UP IN A CHURCH AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD A FOOD PANTRY, WE GAVE OUT FOOD. 
          UM, BUT THEN I STARTED WORKING IN A CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL BEFORE I CAME TO WORK AT THE CITY AND I LEARNED ABOUT INFECTION CONTROL AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE IMMUNOSUPPRESSED, I'M ONE OF THEM, UM, AND OR HAVE ALLERGIES, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF. 
          AND SO I THINK BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, EVEN GROWING UP IN A CHURCH AND YOU KNOW, GIVING OUT FOOD, I BECAME A LOT MORE AWARE OF, YEAH, WE MIGHT BE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE, BUT WE COULD ALSO HURT IF WE'RE NOT AWARE OF MAYBE SOME OF THE HEALTH ISSUES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE SAFE. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A HARD ONE BECAUSE DEFINITELY WHEN WE WANNA HELP AND WE WANNA, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY IS SO GIVING HERE IN DALLAS, BUT THEN THERE IS ALSO THE HEALTH ASPECT AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL. 
          DO IT. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO I JUST, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UM, UH, PLACES TO, UM, MAKE AMENDMENTS. 
          UM, SEVERAL OF THE PLACES I, I, I'VE ALREADY KIND OF, UH, LAID OUT, BUT I DO WANNA BEGIN BY RECOGNIZING THE CITY'S GOAL HERE AND PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND ORDER. 
          THOSE ARE LEGITIMATE AND IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT AS WRITTEN AND PROPOSED, THIS ORDINANCE RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM FOR MANY PEOPLE, FEEDING THE HUNGRY IS NOT JUST CHARITY. 
          IT IS A DEEPLY HELD RELIGIOUS OBLIGATION UNDER THE TEXAS RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT. 
          THE CITY CANNOT SUBSTANTIALLY BURDEN RELIGIOUS EXERCISE UNLESS IT MEETS THE HIGHEST LEGAL STANDARD. 
          A COMPELLING INTEREST PURSUED THROUGH THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE MEANS POSSIBLE. 
          RIGHT NOW, THIS ORDINANCE RISKS FAILING THAT TEST REQUIRING INDIVIDUALS OR SMALL GROUPS TO OBTAIN PERMISSION BEFORE ENGAGING IN ACTS OF FAITH, LIKE FEEDING THOSE GATES REAL LEGAL EXPOSURE FOR THE CITY. 
          AND IF WE DON'T ADDRESS THAT NOW, A COURT MAY DO IT FOR US LATER. 
          WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PREVENT THAT. 
          THE SOLUTION IS NOT TO ABANDON THE ORDINANCE, BUT INSTEAD TO IMPROVE IT. 
          WE SHOULD IMP EXPLICITLY PROTECT RELIGIOUS EXERCISE IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE LIKE WE HAD PRIOR TO THE CHANGE 
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PROPOSAL. 
          WE SHOULD ENSURE THAT SMALL SCALE FAITH-DRIVEN ACTS OF CHARITY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND WE SHOULD FAVOR SIMPLE NOTICE OVER PERMISSION, WHEREVER POSSIBLE, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT JUST A POLICY QUESTION, THIS IS A CONSTITUTIONAL ONE AS WELL. 
          WE SHOULD ALSO MAKE SURE THE ORDINANCE IS NARROWLY TAILORED, REALLY NARROWLY TAILORED, AND FOCUS ON THE LARGE SCALE ACTIVITY LIMITED TO PUBLIC SPACES AND BACKED BY CLEAR EVIDENCE OF ACTUAL HEALTH OR SAFETY CONCERNS, DATA THAT COULD ACTUALLY SUFFICE AS EVIDENTIARY FOR OUR ATTORNEYS TO DEFEND A LAWSUIT. 
          WHAT YOU PUT IN THE APPENDIX IS NOT IT. 
          AND IMPORTANTLY, ENFORCEMENT SHOULD FOCUS ON REAL HARMS LIKE UNSAFE CONDITIONS OR OBSTRUCTION, NOT WHETHER SOMEONE ASKS PERMISSION TO SERVE OTHERS. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS ABOUT BALANCE. 
          WE CAN PROTECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY WHILE ALSO RESPECTING THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO LIVE OUT ONE'S FAITH. 
          BUT TO DO THAT, WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT BEFORE PASSAGE. 
          SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS TO ONLY PROMOTE THE CODE CHANGE AND TO WORK WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE WITH THE NECESSARY DEPARTMENTS AND ANYONE ON THIS BODY WHO IS WILLING TO BE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, UH, SO WE CAN HAVE BETTER LANGUAGE TO PASS. 
          UH, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE FOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BA AND DEFINITELY WE, UM, WANT TO, UH, ENSURE THAT WHATEVER WE BRING, UM, AS IT RELATES TO ANY POTENTIAL, UM, MODIFICATIONS TO THE AMENDMENTS IS DONE WITH, UH, WITH THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY IN MIND. 
          AND, UM, I DO WANNA THANK YOU AND OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS BODY FOR YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          UM, WE DEFINITELY WILL, UM, UM, UH, LOOK AT HOW THE AGENDA ITEM THAT'S BEFORE YOU NEXT WEEK, I THINK IT WAS POSTED, UH, ON THE DRAFT, UM, WITH THE AMENDMENTS INCLUDED. 
          AND SO ANY CHANGES TO HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE THE ITEM NEXT WEEK, WE SUPPORT THAT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK AND ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE THE PARTNERS, UH, THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED, THAT THEY'RE AT THE TABLE. 
          AND SO WE WELCOME THAT ENGAGEMENT AND WE DEFINITELY WELCOME, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL AND TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR COMMENTS, UH, THIS AFTERNOON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHAIRMAN MENDELSON, THREE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, OUR MARSHALL ALLOWED TO CLEAR, UM, AN OBSTRUCTION IN THE ROADWAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? I BELIEVE SO. 
          I BELIEVE, UH, DALLAS MARSHALS ARE ABLE TO HANDLE TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS AND, AND PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UH, OBSTRUCTION VIOLATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE WOULDN'T JUST BE RELYING ON THE POLICE FOR THAT. 
          CORRECT. 
          I'M THE DIRECTOR OF CODE, MA'AM. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESOURCE CONSTRAINTS ARE IN THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE ARE AT DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT I'M, YEAH, I'M, DO THE MARSHALS GO OUT WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO TO AN EVENT? I'M, I'M SORRY. 
          DO THE MARSHALS SHOW UP WHEN YOU'RE OUT AT A LARGE SCALE EVENT? UH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE TEAM AND, AND MARSHALS AS WELL AS DPD AND, AND TASK FORCE TYPE SCENARIOS. 
          DIFFERENT, VARIOUS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF INITIATIVES. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN THE VEHICLES, UM, AT MANY OF THEM. 
          SO I WAS ASSUMING THAT WOULD BE, SO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE BENEFITING FROM THE FOOD, WHAT ARE THEIR ALTERNATIVES TO RECEIVE? UH, FREE FOOD DISTRIBUTION? I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY OUR CALL IN THE BRIDGE, IF NOBODY CAME, WELL, IF NOBODY CAME DOWN TO PROVIDE FREE FOOD, THE AUSTIN STREET, OUR CALL IN THE BRIDGE, TUPAC, THEY ALL PROVIDE MEALS EVERY DAY OR MAYBE THEY DON'T GO TO THEM AT ALL. 
          AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WRAPAROUND SERVICES, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT RECEIVING FOOD ONE TIME. 
          IT'S ABOUT RECEIVING MEDICAL TREATMENT, UH, DRUG REHABILITATION, UH, POTENTIAL PATHWAY FOR HOUSING. 
          ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE, ARE NEEDED. 
          UM, IF YOU'RE FEEDING SOMEONE ON THE SAME DOWNTOWN STREET CORNER EVERY WEEKEND, WHAT, WHAT IMPACT ARE YOU REALLY HAVING IN THAT PERSON'S LIFE? OUR GOAL IS TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS AND ON A PATHWAY TO SELF-SUSTAINABILITY. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I THINK YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT I AM FORMERLY A HOMELESS SHELTER DIRECTOR, SO 
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I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, BUT CLEARLY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ATTENDING THE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS ARE EITHER ALREADY AT THE SHELTER AND GOING THERE FOR ALTERNATIVE FOOD OR AREN'T GOING TO GO TO THE SHELTER, AND THEY'RE LIVING IN CAMP SOMEWHERE, BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO GO TO THIS. 
          AND I WOULD SAY TO YOU THAT THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN SHELTER THAT WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THERE'S A REASON INSTITUTIONAL FOOD GETS VERY OLD. 
          IT'S A CHIEF COMPLAINT. 
          UM, AND THE ONES WHO ARE IN CAMPED AND WON'T GO TO SHELTER, THIS IS A LIFELINE FOR THEM. 
          IT'S A LIFELINE, BOTH IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO RECEIVE AS WELL AS THE CONNECTIONS THAT THEY'RE MAKING, WHICH MIGHT EDGE THEM TOWARDS SHELTER. 
          SO I KNOW MANY OF THESE GROUPS WILL ALSO DISTRIBUTE, UM, CARDS AND BOOKLETS WITH RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IF THE PERSON'S WILLING TO ACCEPT. 
          AND WE HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW YOU HAVE TO KEEP ASKING AND KEEP ASKING AND KEEP ASKING. 
          AND THIS IS ANOTHER PLACE WHERE THAT HAPPENS. 
          SO AGAIN, I JUST THINK THIS IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT OUR CITY NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED WITH. 
          AND I HOPE YOU WILL, UM, WORK WITH THE COUNTY SO THAT IF THERE IS AN OUTBREAK, YOU CAN FIND OUT WHERE IT IS AND, AND WHO WAS CONDUCTING IT AND REMEDIATE IT THAT WAY. 
          BUT I'VE ACTUALLY NEVER HEARD OF THAT HAPPENING. 
          NOT ONCE. 
          AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON, APPRECIATE YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, DIRECTOR, STAFF, CITY MANAGER. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE OR MY, UH, COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR, RATHER, I THINK IT IS GONNA BE PLAYING A VIDEO HERE MOMENTARILY. 
          UNSHELTERED VENDING CONTINUES TO POSE A SIGNIFICANT, UH, ISSUE AND CHALLENGE IN THE CBD AND ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          THESE ACTIVITIES OCCUR IN PRIVATE PROPERTIES AND IN PUBLIC SPACES AS WELL. 
          THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO MANAGE THE GOVERNMENT, UH, INTEREST IN MAKING SURE FOOD REGULATION IS HANDLED ACCORDINGLY. 
          AND I BELIEVE THIS PROPOSED CHANGES FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES. 
          I BELIEVE THEY'RE NARROW IN SCOPE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, UM, OUR LEGAL TEAM HAS EVALUATED THAT AND DETERMINED THAT WE ARE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE REGULATIONS. 
          AND SO I WANNA GO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE PERMIT. 
          HOW DOES ONE APPLY FOR THE PERMIT? IS THERE A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERMIT? TELL ME HOW THE PER THE PERMIT WOULD WORK. 
          THANK, THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          MAYOR PROTI MORENO, UM, THE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED YET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GO OUT TO SEEK A SOFTWARE OR A LICENSE AGREEMENT OR ANYTHING PRIOR TO KNOWING WHAT THE COUNCIL'S DECISION WAS GOING TO BE ON THIS MATTER. 
          BUT WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE CITY WHO ALREADY HAVE A, A PERMITTING AND LICENSED SYSTEM ESTABLISHED THAT THEY SAY WE ARE ABLE TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF, UH, THE APPROVAL SYSTEM AND WE CAN CREATE A SIMPLE PERMIT THAT HAS REQUIRED FILLS. 
          ONCE THOSE FILLS ARE COMPLETED, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S REQUESTED HAS BEEN PROVIDED. 
          THAT PERMIT WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY, UH, APPROVED AND THEN DIGITALLY PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT RIGHT THEN AND, AND THERE ON THE SPOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO AT, AT NO COST FREE OF CHARGE. 
          SO IN THE VIDEO THAT WAS JUST PLAYED, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IS A LACK OF, UH, SANITATION STATIONS, LACK OF, UH, HEATING AND COOLING EQUIPMENT, UM, AND THEN LACK OF TRASH CANS. 
          SO, UH, CHRIS, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH LITTER AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PICKING THAT UP CURRENTLY? I KNOW THAT, UH, OUR NONPROFITS, OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, AS WELL AS THE CITY ARE OUT THERE CONDUCTING, UH, CLEANUP. 
          AND SO, TELL TELL ME MORE OR LESS THE IMPACT TO, UH, OUR BUDGET WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, HAVING TO GO IN AND DO THESE CLEANUPS. 
          SO I, I DIDN'T BRING ANY EXACT FIGURES FROM A CO COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE. 
          TYPICALLY, OUR RESPONSE WOULD BE ENFORCEMENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS DOWNTOWN. 
          SO WE WOULD ENFORCE OUR LITTER ORDINANCES AGAINST THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE LITTER ACCUMULATIONS ON THEIR PROPERTY. 
          WE BASICALLY ISSUE NOTICE TO THEM, ASK THEM TO CLEAN IT UP, GIVE 'EM A TIMEFRAME TO DO SO, AND THEN IF THEY DIDN'T, WE WOULD DO IT FOR THEM AND THEN LEAN THE PROPERTY FOR THOSE CHARGES. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LIENS WE HAVE IN OR AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          I KNOW A LOT OF THE CLEANUP THAT OCCURS DOWN THERE IS DONE BY OUR TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS, CLEAN SWEEP TEAM. 
          AND ALSO, I KNOW DDI HAS PAID CONTRACTORS TO CLEAN UP DOWN THERE AS WELL. 
          UH, AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS EXCEED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR MORE. 
          UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE HEARD FROM HOUSING FORWARD AND HOW THIS IS, UH, IN COORDINATION WITH 
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THEIR EFFORTS. 
          UM, WAS THERE ANY COMMUNICATIONS WITH, UH, HOUSING FORWARD OR ANY OTHER NONPROFITS? YEAH, SO WE, WE, WE SCHEDULED SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS ON, ON THIS FRAMEWORK AND TO TALK ABOUT THE DIRECTION WE WERE MOVING IN OR WANTED TO MOVE IN AS A CITY AND TO SEEK FEEDBACK FROM THEM PRIOR TO BRINGING THE ITEM TO THIS FULL BODY TODAY, WE MET WITH, UH, ALL OF OUR NONPROFITS IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN, THE BRIDGE, AUSTIN STREET, OUR CALL IN ST. 
          STUPOT, UH, DALLAS LIFE, AND ALSO STREET VENDORS AS WELL. 
          AND WE, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE FRAMEWORK, A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF KIND OF WHERE WE WERE GOING AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT INCLUDING. 
          AND WE GOT, UH, POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM BOTH SIDES, FROM THE NONPROFITS WHO WANT TO PARTNER WITH THE STREET VENDORS AND WANT THEM TO COME TO THEIR LOCATIONS AND FEED. 
          AND ALSO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO INCENTIVIZE AT THOSE LOCATIONS AND SUPPORT FEEDINGS AT THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE WRAPAROUND SERVICES ARE, ARE IN EXISTENCE AS WELL. 
          UH, THEY WERE HAPPY ABOUT THAT, EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          THE STREET VENDORS THAT WE HAD ABOUT 30 AT OUR MEETING IN MARCH. 
          UM, AND THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT THE 30 DAY PERMIT BECAUSE AS IT IS, AS IT STANDS TODAY, NOTICE HAS TO BE REQUIRED FOR EVERY FEEDING. 
          AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A PERMIT AND, AND BE ELIGIBLE TO FEED FOR 30 DAYS, THEY WERE ACTUALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T, UM, NO ONE SEEMED DISCOURAGED BY THAT, THAT REQUEST OR BY THAT REQUIREMENT. 
          AND THE, THE FEEDBACK WAS PREDOMINANTLY POSITIVE. 
          SO DO THESE CHANGES PREVENT ANY ORGANIZATION FROM COMING OUT AND CONTINUING TO, UM, TO FEED? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS PERMIT WOULD BE GOOD FOR 30 DAYS. 
          GOOD FOR 30 DAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO, LOOK, THIS, THIS IS NOT ABOUT STOPPING INDIVIDUALS FROM COMING DOWNTOWN TO, UH, DOING WHAT THEY FEEL IS, IS RIGHT. 
          AND WITH A LOT OF GOOD INTENTION TRYING TO, UH, FEED OUR, OUR HUNGRY, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THEY'RE HEALTHY. 
          UH, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S THAT WORD HEALTH AND THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HAVING THE PROTOCOL AND THE PROCEDURES AROUND IN ORDER TO HAVE A, A HEALTHY ECOSYSTEM. 
          SO, CITY MANAGER, UM, I SUPPORT THIS, UH, ORDINANCE IS AS WRITTEN AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT DEBATE AT THE, UH, NEXT, UH, COUNCIL MEETING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          UH, CHAIR MENDELSON. 
          UH, DO YOU HAVE, UH, YOUR HAND UP FOR ONE MINUTE? YES. 
          UM, JUST A FINAL QUESTION. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE ORDINANCE IS FOR THE WHOLE CITY, BUT ALL OF THE GROUPS THAT YOU SAID, YOU TALKED TO, SOUND LIKE THEY'RE ALL CONCENTRATED DOWNTOWN, WHERE YOU TALK WITH ANYBODY FROM OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          SO, AT THOSE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS THAT, THAT WE HAD, WE, WE, WE REACHED OUT TO VENDORS WHO WE HAD ON OUR BOOKS WHO HAVE NOTIFIED US AS, AS FEEDERS. 
          UM, AND SO WE CONNECTED WITH THE, BASICALLY THE LIST OF CLIENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY WORKED WITH AND THAT HAVE ALREADY WORKED WITH US. 
          AND WE INVITED ALL OF THEM NO MATTER WHERE THEY WERE FROM. 
          SOME, SOME THAT ATTENDED DID NOT FEED IN DOWNTOWN, OR WERE NOT LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN. 
          SOME FEED IN NORTHEAST DALLAS, NORTHWEST DALLAS, NORTH DALLAS, AND OTHER PLACES. 
          BUT THEY DID ATTEND THE MEETING AS WELL. 
          UH, THE, THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE TALKED TO AND WORKED WITH WERE THOSE PREDOMINANTLY IN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBER BASAL. 
          ONE MINUTE. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          I JUST, UH, RE WOULD WOULD LIKE TO JUST REITERATE THE, UH, THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WERE, THAT WERE MENTIONED. 
          UM, I ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING WITH ALL THAT, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO JUST MENTIONED, AND ALL OF THEM, UM, UH, ARTICULATED THAT THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THIS TO BE A PERFECT SOLUTION, AND THEY DO BELIEVE THAT WE COULD GET TO A PERFECT SOLUTION. 
          THEY FELT THAT THERE WAS A RUSH, UH, THAT WAS NOT DICTATED ON, ON THEIR END. 
          UH, AND THEY WERE TOTALLY, UM, HAPPY WITH TAKING SOME MORE TIME TO FIND SOME BETTER LANGUAGE. 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          I KNOW THAT THEY ALSO SAID THAT THEY WANTED EVEN MORE STRINGENT LANGUAGE AT, AT TIMES, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THIS ISN'T GONNA BE VIOLATING ANYTHING. 
          BUT ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT I HAVE A LOT OF CLERGY, UM, UH, IN MY DISTRICT. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF STREET FEEDINGS. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS. 
          NONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT WERE A PART OF THE QUOTE UNQUOTE STAKEHOLDERS WERE ONES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED OF THOSE THAT ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK. 
          IT'S THOSE, IT'S ONLY THOSE WHO ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE WORK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'D LOVE TO SIT DOWN WITH THOSE FOLKS. 
          IF YOU'RE WILLING TO HOST A MEETING COUNCIL MEMBER, I'LL COME AND BE THERE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AND LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR CHRIS. 
          LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA TELL HIM. 
          JUST HOLD UP ON THAT PART . 
          UM, BUT, BUT WE DEFINITELY, AGAIN, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, COMMENTS. 
          MAYOR POT TIMM MORENO. 
          UM, FOR SOMEONE WHO LIVES 
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NOT TOO FAR FROM WHERE MOST OF THE STREET, UH, FEEDING TAKES PLACE, UH, WE DEFINITELY ARE SENSITIVE, UM, TO THE ONGOING NEEDS OF OUR, OF OUR, UM, OF THIS MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION. 
          BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ROLE THAT OUR FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY PLAYS IN OUR CITY. 
          AND WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT TRYING TO PREVENT, UM, OR TO DISCOURAGE THE SUPPORT. 
          I WILL TELL YOU THAT OVER THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, WE LAUNCHED, UM, WHAT WE CALLED A, UM, UH, KIND OF A CLERGY CONNECT TO BRING IN THE FAITH-BASED LEADERS AND SAY, HERE ARE WAYS THAT WE REALLY WANT YOU TO HELP SUPPORT, UM, SOME OF THE NEEDS AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR UNSHELTERED UH, POPULATION, INCLUDING, UH, PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR THEM EVEN AT THEIR FACILITIES. 
          AND SO WE'VE HAD ROBUST CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY AND MANY OF THEM HAVE SHOWN UP IN GREAT SUPPORT, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER, AND A LOT OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER. 
          SO I DON'T WANT THIS TO APPEAR AS IF THIS WAS A, UM, SOME KIND OF AN ATTACK ON OUR FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY. 
          UH, THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS, UH, THEY'VE LISTENED. 
          AND UM, I WANT TO GO BACK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MR. CHRISTIAN STATED. 
          ONE OF THE KEY CHALLENGES THAT WE DO HAVE OFTEN IS HOW DO WE GET MORE AND MORE OF OUR UNSHELTERED TO GO SEEK SERVICES, NOT NECESSARILY ON THE CORNER, BUT HOW DO WE GET THEM MOVED INTO, UM, THOSE STREAMS OF SERVICES THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED THROUGH MANY OF OUR NONPROFITS WHO ARE DOING TREMENDOUS WORK IN GETTING THEM IN THEIR DOORS AND BEING ABLE TO HELP THEM. 
          AND WHAT WE'VE CONTINUED TO HEAR IS THAT THE MORE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO THEM, WHERE THEY ARE, THE LESS IMPACT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FOR, FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY COME IN TO, WHETHER IT'S AUSTIN STREET, WHETHER IT'S THE BRIDGE, THAT THAT DOES BECOME A CHALLENGE. 
          SO WE ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO CREATE THE RIGHT BALANCE. 
          UM, AND WE KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU SEE AND HEAR AND TALK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS ALL THE TIME ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND WE DO WANNA GET IT RIGHT. 
          I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A PERFECT SOLUTION BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU THAT MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WANT SOMETHING A LOT HARSHER THAN WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED. 
          SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DO WANNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          WE WANT TO, WE WANNA HEAR FROM YOU, WHICH IS WHY WE SAID WE NEEDED TO STILL HAVE THIS BRIEFING AND THEN GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY AS WE LOOK AT THE ACTION ITEM TO TELL US WHAT YOU WOULD PREFER THAT WE DO. 
          AND WE WILL DO OUR PART TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AT THE TABLE, WE'RE LISTENING, AND WE COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT THIS BODY CAN SUPPORT AND MAYBE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON THE TABLE. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, TO TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW YOU ALL THE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT. 
          AND THIS HAS BEEN VERY ROBUST. 
          WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENT THE LANGUAGE OVERNIGHT. 
          WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          AND WE'LL KEEP WORKING AT YOUR DIRECTION UNTIL WE GET IT RIGHT. 
          SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU CITY. 
          UH, SECRETARY, MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR ITEMS FOR THIS AGENDA. 
          THERE ARE NO OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR ITEMS FOR TODAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE TIME IS NOW 5 0 7 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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