Apr 22, 2026 City Council Agenda Meetings

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GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A QUORUM. TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, APRIL 22ND, 2026, AND THE TIME IS 917.

[AGENDA CITY COUNCIL MEETING WEDNESDAY, APRIL 22, 2026 ORDER OF BUSINESS ]

I NOW WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER TODAY'S INVOCATION.

SPEAKER, IS OUR COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER ZARIN D GRACEY FROM DISTRICT THREE, WHO ALSO SERVES AS EXECUTIVE PASTOR AT CONRAD CHURCH.

I WILL TURN OVER THE MIC TO HIM NOW. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. LET US PRAY. ALMIGHTY GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY REMINDED OF THE TIMELESS WORDS OF THE PSALMIST.

GOD IS OUR REFUGE AND STRENGTH, A VERY PRESENT HELP IN TROUBLE.

AS WE GATHER IN THIS CHAMBER TO CONDUCT THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS, WE ANCHOR OURSELVES IN THAT PROMISE THAT YOU ARE NOT A DISTANT GOD, BUT A PRESENT ONE NEAR TO ALL WHO CALL UPON YOU.

WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY PRAYING FOR THE BUDGET OF THIS GREAT CITY OF DALLAS.

LORD, WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM TO GUIDE EVERY DECISION MADE.

WHERE THERE IS COMPETING NEEDS AND LIMITED RESOURCES, GRANT US THE DISCERNMENT TO PRIORITIZE WITH FAIRNESS AND FORESIGHT.

WHERE THERE IS DISAGREEMENT, GIVE US THE HUMILITY TO LISTEN AND THE COURAGE TO SEEK COMMON GROUND FOR THE GOOD OF ALL.

WE PRAY FOR MAYOR JOHNSON AND WE PRAY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL.

STRENGTHEN OUR MINDS AND STEADY OUR HEARTS. MAY WE SET ASIDE PERSONAL AGENDAS AND POLITICAL PRESSURES AND BE MOVED INSTEAD BY A GENUINE DESIRE TO SERVE EVERY RESIDENT OF THIS CITY, THE PROSPEROUS AND THE STRUGGLING ALIKE.

REMIND THEM, LORD, THAT THIS BUDGET IS NOT MERELY A DOCUMENT OF NUMBERS, BUT A DECLARATION OF OUR VALUES AND OUR COMMITMENTS TO ONE ANOTHER.

WE LIFT UP THE DEDICATED MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE AS CITY OF DALLAS EMPLOYEES, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR PUBLIC WORK CREWS, AND OUR ADMINISTRATORS.

THEY ARE THE HANDS AND THE FEET OF THIS GOVERNMENT.

PROTECT THEM, HONOR THEIR SERVICE, AND MAY THIS BUDGET REFLECT THE VALUE THEY BRING TO OUR COMMUNITIES EVERY SINGLE DAY.

WE PRAY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF OF DALLAS, FOR THE FAMILY STRETCHING EVERY DOLLAR, THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS BUILDING THEIR DREAMS, AND THE SENIORS ON FIXED INCOMES, AND THE CHILDREN WHO WILL INHERIT WHAT WE BUILD TODAY.

MAY THEY FEEL THE EFFECT OF OUR WORK IN SAFER STREETS, CLEANER NEIGHBORHOODS, AND GREATER OPPORTUNITY.

LORD, YOU ARE OUR REFUGE AND OUR STRENGTH. WHEN THE CHALLENGES FEEL INSURMOUNTABLE AND THE PATH FORWARD UNCLEAR, WE TRUST THAT YOU ARE A VERY PRESENT HELP. GUIDE THIS COUNSEL.

BLESS THIS CITY AND MAY EVERYTHING DONE HERE TODAY BE WORTHY OF THE TRUST THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS HAVE PLACED IN US.

IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. NOW, IF YOU'RE ABLE, PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

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BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I'LL START WITH CHAIRMAN WEST. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO DO A RECOGNITION FOR ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS ON CITY STAFF AND ALSO THE REST OF DALLASITES WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE 2026 DALLAS SPARTAN EVENT THIS LAST WEEKEND HERE AT CITY HALL.

AND I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE ALL OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO CAME TOGETHER TO PULL THIS EXCITING EVENT OFF.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE FEW SPARTAN RACES THAT ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE IN A DOWNTOWN AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF OUT IN THE MUD IN THE COUNTRYSIDE.

ABOUT 2000 PARTICIPANTS DIDN'T JUST SHOW UP. THEY SHOWED OUT CLIMBING OBSTACLES, RUNNING THROUGH OUR STREETS IN DALLAS, GETTING BLOODY AND WET OUT IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS.

FROM FIRST TIME RACERS TO ELITE COMPETITORS, EVERY FINISHER EARNED IT.

I WAS OUT. I DID NOT RUN IT THIS YEAR, BUT I WAS OUT THERE WITH THEM IN THE RAIN AND IT WAS COLD AND WET AND THOSE GUYS WORKED REALLY HARD.

THIS EVENT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT A FULL TEAM BEHIND IT.

WE HAD TEN CITY OF DALLAS DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER SEAMLESSLY THROUGH A PERMIT PROCESS.

THE DALLAS SPORTS COMMISSION SUPPORTED PUSHING US OVER THE LINE, AND DOWNTOWN DALLAS, INC.

CAME UP WITH CREATIVE IDEAS. I KNOW THAT OUR CITY MANAGER, KIM TOLBERT WAS A BIG PART OF THIS BEHIND THE SCENES, ALONG WITH ROSA FLEMING AND HER TEAM. THAT'S PARTNERSHIP, PUBLIC SAFETY, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION, SANITATION, ALL MOVING LIKE ONE CHAMPIONSHIP DALLAS TEAM.

THAT'S WHAT COORDINATED CITY GOVERNMENT LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT'S FIRING ON ALL CYLINDERS AND WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH OUR PARTNERS.

2000 PARTICIPANTS MEANS FAMILIES, SPECTATORS AND VISITORS SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES, HOTEL STAYS,

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EVENTS LIKE THIS REINFORCE DALLAS AS A PREMIER DESTINATION FOR MAJOR ATHLETIC COMPETITIONS.

SPARTAN RACES ARE NOT EASY. THAT'S THE POINT.

THEY PUSH PEOPLE BEYOND LIMITS, JUST LIKE GREAT SPORTS MOMENTS DO.

THAT'S HOW WE WILL BUILD A HEALTHIER, STRONGER DALLAS.

WELL, EVERYBODY WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE SPARTAN RACE OR WHO WAS A DEPARTMENT THAT HELPED US SET IT UP OR KEEP EVERYBODY SAFE, PLEASE STAND UP. I'VE HEARD WE HAVE SOME. LET'S GIVE THEM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

WE GOT WE GOT A MEDAL. ALL RIGHT. HOLD. IF YOU GOT YOUR MEDAL, HOLD IT UP.

WE. I SEE ONE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. TODAY WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE JAKE ANDERSON.

JAKE, ARE YOU HERE THIS MORNING? GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. TODAY WE ARE TRULY EXCITED TO RECOGNIZE JAKE ANDERSON FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS. HIS FAITHFUL SERVICE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND HE IS PREPARING FOR A TRANSITION INTO A NEW ROLE THAT WILL DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE CITY.

JAKE BEGAN HIS CAREER IN THE MAYOR OF THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE BEFORE JOINING THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS IN 2023, AND OVER THAT TIME, HE'S BUILT A REPUTATION AS A THOUGHTFUL LEADER AND A TRUSTED PARTNER, SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS BOTH THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS WORK AND THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING IT RIGHT DURING A CRITICAL PERIOD OF OUR CITY. JAKE HAS PROVIDED STEADY DIRECTION AND DELIVERED RESULTS THAT WILL HAVE A LASTING IMPACT ON THE CITY.

HE OVERSAW THE 2024 CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

IT WAS AN EFFORT THAT WAS FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR CITY GOVERNANCE ITSELF AND PLANS FOR THE FUTURE.

HE ALSO WORKED WITH MANY OF YOU AND HELPED GUIDE THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS THROUGH THE 89TH TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, ENSURING THAT OUR PRIORITIES AS A CITY WERE CLEARLY AND EFFECTIVELY REPRESENTED AT THE STATE LEVEL.

THROUGH HIS LEADERSHIP, JAKE HAS SECURED FUNDING FOR OVER 17 PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, TOTALING NEARLY $15 MILLION THROUGH THE FY 26 COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING CYCLE, THE MOST AWARDS DALLAS HAS RECEIVED SINCE THE PROGRAM RETURNED IN 2021. HE ALSO SUPPORTED THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IN THE COMPLEXITY AND THE CONSEQUENTIAL ISSUES THAT WE WERE FACING REGARDING DART FUNDING AND GOVERNANCE. HE HELPED NAVIGATE DECISIONS AND SUPPORTED ALL OF THE EFFORTS AROUND THIS CRITICAL REGIONAL MOBILITY AND LONG TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH FOR OUR CITY.

AND ONE OF HIS MOST FORWARD LOOKING CONTRIBUTIONS HAS BEEN THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS TEAM WITHIN THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS.

THIS TEAM NOW PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN MAINTAINING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR DIPLOMATIC CORPS, SUPPORTING DIGNITARIES AND DELEGATION VISITS, AND STRENGTHENING OUR SISTER CITY PARTNERSHIPS, POSITIONING DALLAS MORE STRONGLY ON THE GLOBAL STAGE.

BEYOND THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, JAKE HAS SERVED AS A TRUSTED LIAISON ACROSS A BROAD SPECTRUM OF PARTNERS OTHER PEER CITIES, COUNTIES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS, TRANSIT AND HEALTH AGENCIES, PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERS AND ORGANIZATIONS AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, AND HIS ABILITY TO BUILD AND SUSTAIN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS HAS TRULY STRENGTHENED COLLABORATION AND HELPED MOVE OUR SHARED PRIORITIES FORWARD. JAKE, YOU HAVE BEEN A STEADY PRESENCE, A RELIABLE LEADER, AND A THOUGHTFUL ADVISOR TO SO MANY OF US.

YOUR WORK HAS MADE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE, AND TODAY, WE KNOW THAT YOU LEAVE BACK A STRONG FOUNDATION ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND THANK YOU FOR THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED TO OUR CITY.

WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MUCH MORE SUCCESS IN THE YEARS AHEAD.

GOD BLESS YOU, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. THANK YOU JAKE.

THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S BEEN A TRUE PLEASURE TO WORK HERE AT THE CITY FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

I MOVED TO DALLAS NOT KNOWING WHERE I'D LAND.

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AND I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS, WHO TOOK THE FIRST CHANCE ON ME AND GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY HERE IN THE CITY.

WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU IN THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICE LEARNING HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKED, UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT MEANS TO, TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS HERE IN DALLAS. AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY A HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO CITY MANAGER TOLBERT FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD THE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS. IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE THAT I'VE REALLY ENJOYED.

IT'S BEEN A LOT OF FUN. IT'S BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT, BUT I THINK IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE DONE GREAT WORK. BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE INCREDIBLE OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS STAFF.

THEY REALLY ARE THE STARS. THEY'RE REALLY THE ONES WHO MADE EVERYTHING HAPPEN.

AND SO I'M ETERNALLY GRATEFUL TO THEM AND ALL THE WORK THEY DO FROM THE INTERNATIONAL LEVEL, ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE TO THE LOCAL LEVEL AT THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL.

AND SO YOU KNOW, I WON'T BE GOING FAR. I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.

WE'RE WEARING A NEW HAT, BUT I WILL ALWAYS BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, ALWAYS A SUPPORTER OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT CHAPTER WITH ALL OF YOU.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

YEAH, NOT TOO FAST, JAKE. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? TO SPEAK. OKAY. TO SPEAK. SORRY.

I JUST WANT TO SAY A HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DEVOTED TO THE CITY.

I THINK THAT YOU EXEMPLIFY PROFESSIONALISM. I'VE WATCHED YOUR WORK ETHIC, AND IT'S ONE THAT I KNOW I HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AT ALL HOURS AT ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. AND YOU'VE ANSWERED THE CALL.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME REALLY DIFFICULT TIMES AS A CITY UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP.

AND I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR CITY MANAGER FOR PUTTING THE TRUST IN YOU.

THE, THERE WAS A CRITICAL TIME WHEN WE LOST CARRIE, SPECIFICALLY IN YOUR PREDECESSOR.

AND I THINK THAT WE DIDN'T SKIP A BEAT WITH THE MORALE IN THAT OFFICE BECAUSE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP.

I WILL ONCE MORE LAST TIME HERE SAY THAT I, I DO LOVE YOU, JAKE, FROM STATE FARM.

I, AND I'M A LITTLE BUMMED THAT YOU'RE NOT WEARING A SWEATER AND KHAKIS FOR THIS THIS DEPARTURE.

BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR NEXT CHAPTER.

AND YOU ALSO, DON'T BE A STRANGER. YEAH. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OBVIOUSLY, I WISH I COULD BE THERE IN PERSON TO SEND YOU OFF TO THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER.

WHO IS SO WISE TO PLUCK YOU AWAY FROM THIS CITY? BUT I ECHO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA SAID.

THAT YOU STEPPED IN AND KEPT THINGS REALLY STEADY FOR THE CITY AT A AT A TIME WHEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ROUGH GOING INTO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING THROUGH DART, ETCETERA. YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE WISH YOU WELL. AND YES, WE WILL NOT BE OUT OF TOUCH.

TAKE CARE. THANK YOU. CHAIR GRACEY GOT BACK JUST IN TIME.

JAKE, YOU'RE MY GUY, MAN. I SEE YOU AROUND. THIS IS A BITTERSWEET MAN, BUT I KNOW YOU HAVE GREAT THINGS AHEAD OF YOU, MAN. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HOW YOU'VE MANAGED ALL OF US IN IN CALM SCENES AND CHAOTIC SCENES.

YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND HOW YOU'VE LED. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU BROTHER. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BLACKMON. THANK YOU. JAKE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

SOMETIMES WE DON'T AROUND THIS PLACE AND YOU WERE ALWAYS, AS MR. BAZALDUA SAID, TAKING CALLS LATE AT NIGHT, EARLY IN THE MORNING FOLLOWING US AROUND THE CAPITOL KEEPING THE CHICKENS FROM WANDERING OFF.

AND SO IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK. I'VE DONE IT BEFORE, AND SO THANK YOU.

BUT I WILL SAY, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THIS UPCOMING SESSION BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERSHIPS NOW.

SO YEAH, YOU MAY BE GOING FAR, BUT WE'LL BE CALLING YOU.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER CADENA.

YEAH. JAKE, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

WE STARTED IN MCC TOGETHER AND OUR OFFICERS, OUR OFFICES WERE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND WE BECAME FRIENDS.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS HELPING ME WHEN I WAS A STAFFER, BUT THEN ALSO WHEN I BECAME A COUNCIL MEMBER AND WITH GOVERNMENT RELATIONS AND WHEN WE WENT ON TRIPS TOGETHER. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOUR WIFE, MADISON FOR SHARING YOU KNOW, YOU WITH US BECAUSE I KNOW WE WERE CALLING AT ALL HOURS AND I'M SURE EVEN DURING DINNER TIMES AND OTHER TIMES, SO, BUT THANK YOU.

AND PLEASE SEND OUR THANKS TO HER AS WELL. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU.

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JAKE. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU CAN TAKE THE COMPLICATED AND EXPLAIN IT IN A GREAT STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY.

I THINK YOU SHOULD GO TO LAW SCHOOL. I KNOW, I KNOW, EVERYONE'S LIKE NOT LAW SCHOOL, BUT YOU DO UNDERSTAND POLICY.

YOU DO UNDERSTAND LAW. YOU UNDERSTAND ALSO HOW TO TAKE THAT AND USE IT AND EXPLAIN IT.

AND AS WE WERE HAVING CONVERSATIONS YESTERDAY AROUND SOMETHING, BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN COMPLICATED LEGAL PRINCIPLES OR LEGISLATION TO NON-LAWYERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LEGISLATORS, THAT'S A SKILL.

THAT'S A GIFT THAT YOU HAVE. SO I'M GOING TO CHALLENGE YOU TO USE THAT GIFT.

I KNOW YOU WILL WHERE YOU'RE HEADED, BUT JUST AS YOU LOOK DOWN THE PATH, CONSIDER LAW SCHOOL BECAUSE I THINK YOU DO HAVE A GIFT AT, AT, AT UNDERSTANDING THE COMPLEX AND THEN BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO THE REST OF US WHO ARE PANICKED AND WONDERING WHAT TO DO NEXT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR.

THIS IS HARD FOR ME BECAUSE YOU HELPED WHEN BEFORE I GOT HERE.

DISTRICT EIGHT IS COMPLICATED AND YOU TOOK THE COMPLEXITIES OF LEGISLATIVE RULINGS AND EXPLAINED IT IN SUCH A WAY AS A COMMISSIONER. I WAS ABLE TO UNDERSTAND YOU.

YOU HAVE AN AMAZING TEAM. YOUR SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE SO MISSED.

I'M, I'M ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE ONES THAT ONLY GOT TO HAVE YOU FOR A SHORT WHILE, BUT I DO KNOW THE WORK THAT YOU WILL DO WILL ALWAYS BE A BENEFIT TO THOSE YOU'RE WORKING WITH AND FOR YOU WILL BE MISSED.

KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO AND KEEP BEING YOU. JAKE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOUR FRIENDSHIP.

I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FRIENDS FROM THE STATE WITH US TODAY. I KNOW SOME BILLS WOULD DROP VERY, VERY LATE AND YOUR TEAM WAS VERY QUICK TO ENSURE THAT MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES WERE ALWAYS PREPARED FOR TESTIMONY.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING WORKING WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TOO FAR.

BUT WITH THAT, IF YOU CAN PLEASE COME UP SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE OR UNLESS YOU HAVE SOME WORDS FIRST. NO THANK YOU.

ALL GOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'RE READY FOR OUR SECOND AND OUR LAST PRESENTATION.

AS PART OF THE CONTINUED EXPANSION OF THE SAINT PHILIP SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY CENTER.

PLANS ARE UNDERWAY TO DEVELOP A MULTI-PURPOSE COMMUNITY FIELD, PARK, AMENITIES AND SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL SERVE BOTH THE CAMPUS AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS A MEANINGFUL INVESTMENT, APPROXIMATELY 6.1 MILLION, THAT REFLECTS A COMMITMENT TO ENHANCING ACCESS TO COMMUNITY SPACE AND CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR CONNECTION, RECREATION AND GROWTH IN THIS AREA.

THAT IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE WORK THAT'S HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES TO MOVE THIS EFFORT FORWARD.

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IS DONNA HERE? COME ON DOWN. DONNA AND ANNE CARAWAY.

BRUCE, REAL ESTATE MANAGER. BOTH DONNA AND ANNE HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP, THEIR PERSISTENCE, AND THEIR ATTENTION TO THE DETAILS THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

WE RECEIVED A VERY KIND EMAIL FROM THE PEROT FAMILY, HEADMASTER TERRY FLOWERS, AT THE SAME PHILIP SCHOOL WHO'S BEEN A LONG PILLAR IN THIS COMMUNITY AND GAVE US THE WONDERFUL WORK AND THE ACCOLADES THAT THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WORK WITH THE SAINT PHILIP SCHOOL CONTINUES, AND THAT THIS LEGACY OF EXPANDING THEIR IMPACT AND DEEPENING THEIR ROLE AS A PLACE THAT SERVES BOTH STUDENTS AND FAMILIES ACROSS SOUTH DALLAS, COULD NOT BE DONE WITHOUT THE EFFORTS OF BOTH OF YOU.

YOUR WORK REFLECTS A STRONG COMMITMENT TO BALANCING DEVELOPMENT GOALS WITH THE PROTECTION OF PUBLIC INTEREST, AND THIS EFFORT, WE KNOW, IS STILL ONGOING. AND SO WE WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU THIS MORNING FOR THE COORDINATION THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING ACROSS MANY OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, WORKING WITH STAKEHOLDERS TO ENSURE THAT THIS CRITICAL PROJECT CONTINUES TO BE IN ALIGNMENT, AND THAT IT'S DONE THOUGHTFUL AND WITH THE READINESS TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SHARED COMMITMENT IN ENSURING THAT THIS OPPORTUNITY DOES MAKE A LASTING DIFFERENCE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, IF YOU WILL COME UP SO WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE, PLEASE.

OKAY. YEAH.

SO PROUD OF YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU. GREAT JOB. HE'S DOING A GOOD JOB. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR OPEN MIC SPEAKERS, MADAM SECRETARY.

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I WILL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY, DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMPERTINENT, PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS.

OR WHO OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM.

FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION.

INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

I'M SORRY. LET ME CHECK MY MICROPHONE. TRY THIS ONE.

TESTING. TESTING. THANK YOU. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM.

YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR MORENO ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, RICHARD COX. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR JOHNSON.

YOUR MICROPHONE. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BACK.

MY NAME IS RICHARD COX AND I'M HERE WITH MY WIFE, MARY JANE.

WE LIVE IN DISTRICT 13. MAYOR PRO TEM GAY DONNELL WILLIS IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE.

WE'RE HERE TODAY TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR AWARENESS AND CONCERN OF REZONING.

REZONING REQUEST IN THE 5900 BLOCK OF ROYAL LANE.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMUNITY RETAIL, ALLOWING FOR BUILDINGS AT A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 54FT.

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ONE BUILDING 325FT, 28 STORIES. ANOTHER 258FT, OR 50FT IN HEIGHT OF 24 STOREYS. ALL BUILDINGS THAT ARE PLANNED EXCEED THE CURRENT LIMITS.

WE, ALL THE DEVELOPERS AND OTHERS, TRY TO PAINT US AS AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.

BELIEVE ME, WE ARE ROBUST ABOUT DEVELOPMENT. LIKE ALL COMMUNITY RETAIL CENTERS IN DALLAS AT THE MAXIMUM 54FT HEIGHT COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE CAN'T WAIT. WE WANT THIS PROPERTY DEVELOPED AFTER THE TORNADO OF 219 2019. THE. ALL FOUR CORNERS WERE BASICALLY DESTROYED.

THREE OF THE CORNERS HAVE NOW BEEN FOR THREE YEARS HAVE BEEN ACTIVE AND AND ROBUST AND BEAUTIFUL.

NO IMPROVEMENTS IN OVER FOUR YEARS NOW HAVE BEEN MADE ONLY AN UNSIGHTLY VACANT LOT THAT HAS YET TO BE COMPLETELY CLEARED.

IN FACT, IT WOULD BE DANGEROUS TO WALK ACROSS IT.

OUR WELL OVER 200,500 SIGNATURES OF OPPOSITION HAVE BEEN FILED IN OUR OPPOSITION AS SPECIFIC, FOCUSED AND ACTIVELY WORKING TO PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE URGE YOU TO OPPOSE THE ZONING CHANGE, MAINTAINING THE MAXIMUM 54FT. THAT'S YOUR TIME.

WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY STAFF COMMISSIONERS COUNCIL MEMBERS, SIR, FOR THE TIME THEY'VE SPENT HELPING US.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MICHELLE CROSS.

GOOD MORNING. I'M. CAN YOU HEAR ME? IF YOU WOULD PULL IT CLOSER TO YOU.

OKAY. HELLO? OKAY. I'M. MY NAME IS MICHELLE CROSS.

I LIVE AT 770. I MEAN, 7709 CAUSEWAY IN DALLAS, TEXAS, 75237.

IS MY WIFE. I HAVE A. I HAVE A WATER BILL THAT IS $1,000 AND NOT A THOUSAND, $1,169. SINCE OCTOBER OF 2025 DALLAS WATER UTILITIES THAT I OWED A BILL OF $900, WHICH I DID NOT. THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL SESSIONS OF OPENING UP THE GROUND TO FIX WHATEVER IS WRONG IN MY COMMUNITY, IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE HAS BEEN DONE FOUR TIMES.

I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT LIVES IN SEXY WHO ONLY PAYS $120 A MONTH.

SHE HAS A SWIMMING POOL, A EVERYTHING SAME IN HERS.

MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN HER. SHE HAS A FIVE BEDROOM HOUSE, SWIMMING POOL, JACUZZI, WATER, THE GRASS ALL THE TIME AND THEIR BILLS ARE ONLY 100.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2006. I PAID $76 A MONTH FOR YEARS, AND THEN OCTOBER OF 25 THEY SAID I HAD MISSED THREE PAYMENTS. I ENDED UP WITH A $900 BILL.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. I HAD SOMEBODY I'VE BEEN COMPLAINING FOR MONTHS, AND BECAUSE THEY KNEW I WAS COMING TO A MEETING, THEY SENT A PERSON OUT FROM THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES TO POUR SOME BLUE STUFF IN MY SINK TO SEE IF THERE WAS A LEAK.

AND THERE'S ONE TOILET THAT'S LEAKED AND THE CITY PUT IT IN.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING, WHEN IS IT GOING TO STOP? I CANNOT AFFORD I LIVE ON A LIMITED INCOME. I CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY $200 A MONTH FOREVER FOR A BILL I PAID SINCE 20 1025. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. KEY WEST.

KEY WEST IS NOT PRESENT. STATE REPRESENTATIVE RAFAEL ANCHIA.

YES. I'M GONNA NEED YOU TO HOLD ON. MISS WEST.

STATE REPRESENTATIVE. STATE REP MR. ANGELIA. THANK YOU.

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MY NAME IS RAFAEL ANCHIA, AND I HAVE THE EXTREME GOOD FORTUNE OF REPRESENTING HOUSE DISTRICT 103 IN THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE.

I ALSO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF CALLING OAK CLIFF HOME, AND IT IS FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE, AS BOTH A STATE LEGISLATOR AND A NEIGHBOR, THAT I RISE IN SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM Z EIGHT.

FOR YEARS, THIS LOT ON DAVIS DAVIS STREET HAS SAT VACANT, HELD BACK BY AN OUTDATED LEGAL RESTRICTION.

WRITTEN IN THE 1970S FOR A PLATING SHOP THAT IS LONG, LONG GONE.

THAT RESTRICTION REQUIRED A WAREHOUSE AND LIMITED THE BUILDING TO ONE STORY USES AND LIMITS THAT NO LONGER APPLY UNDER TODAY'S ZONING RULES.

THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED, INCORPORATING GREEN SPACES, OUTDOOR AREAS AND A COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY CONNECTIVITY AND WALKABILITY. I KNOW THESE VALUES BECAUSE THEY DEFINE OUR COMMUNITY, BISHOP ARTS AND THE BROADER OAK CLIFF AREA.

IT IS ALSO FULLY CONSISTENT WITH FOUR DALLAS 2.0, THE CITY'S OWN VISION FOR A MORE CONNECTED, ACCESSIBLE AND SUSTAINABLE DALLAS A PLAN THAT PRIORITIZES EXACTLY THIS KIND OF INFILL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND WALKABLE CORRIDORS.

REMOVING THESE DEED RESTRICTIONS WILL ADD MUCH NEEDED UNITS TO THE CORRIDOR, SUPPORTING THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF BISHOP ARTS, AND TAKE ONE MORE MEANINGFUL STEP TOWARDS ADDRESSING THE HOUSING CRISIS IN THIS CITY.

I WILL PIVOT NOW TO AGENDA ITEM 39, WHICH I AM ALSO IN SUPPORT OF.

I'VE SENT TWO LETTERS TO THE T, C, E, Q IN 2021 AND 2024 URGING DENIAL OF GAFFES, AIR PERMITS, AND IN 2025, REPRESENTATIVE BENTON JONES AND I ASKED THE TCEQ TO LIMIT ANY PERMIT RENEWALS TO FIVE YEARS.

THEY GRANTED TEN. I'VE ALSO FILED LEGISLATION TO REQUIRE THE TCEQ TO CONSIDER CUMULATIVE POLLUTION IMPACTS, A REFORM THAT DOES NOT EXIST IN STATE LAW, BUT SHOULD.

I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON ITEM 39.

THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. STATE REPRESENTATIVE VINTON JONES.

TEST. TEST. TEST. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR MORENO.

CITY MANAGER TOBER AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I'M STATE REPRESENTATIVE VINTON JONES, CHAIR OF THE DALLAS LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION AND PROUD TO REPRESENT HOUSE DISTRICT 100 HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I'M HERE TO URGE THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE CONTINUE TO CONSIDER AND ADDRESS THE LONG TERM IMPACTS OF COMPANIES SUCH AS THE GAF PLANT IN WEST DALLAS AND THE TEMCO PLANT IN JOPPA, BOTH OF WHICH SIT AT THE HEART OF MY DISTRICT.

THE EVIDENCE OF HARM IS NO LONGER UP FOR DEBATE.

IT IS UNDENIABLE. RESEARCHERS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS INSTALLED AIR MONITORS NEAR THE FACILITY THAT RECORDED 35 SEPARATE INSTANCES WHERE EMISSIONS EXCEEDED THE EPA'S 24 HOUR PARTICULATE MATTER STANDARDS.

FURTHERMORE, REPORTS FROM PAUL QUINN COLLEGE REVEAL THAT GAF AND TAMKO TOGETHER ACCOUNT FOR MORE THAN 10% OF ALL INDUSTRIAL POLLUTANTS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. MY COMMITMENT TO ENDING THIS DISPARITY IS WHY, DURING THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I FILED HOUSE BILL 2813. THIS LEGISLATION. THIS LEGISLATION IS A DIRECT EFFORT TO STRENGTHEN OUR STATE'S ABILITY TO MONITOR AND MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES THAT SIT IN SUCH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO OUR HOMES AND OUR SCHOOLS.

WHILE I'M FIGHTING FOR THESE PROTECTIONS IN AUSTIN, I NEED YOUR HELP HERE AT HOME.

ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH IS NOT JUST A PERIPHERAL, A PERIPHERAL ISSUE.

IT IS A MATTER OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE. THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE ENDURED DECADES OF MISTREATMENT FROM THE 400,000 TONS OF ASBESTOS, ASBESTOS, CONTAMINATED OR AT THE W.R. GRACE TO THE LEAD SMELTING AT R ESSER.

MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY VULNERABLE DUE TO PAST LEAD EXPOSURES AND CONTINUING TO ALLOW THESE POLLUTANTS INTO THEIR LUNGS IS A MATTER OF CONSCIOUSNESS, NOT JUST COMPLIANCE. I RECOGNIZE THAT OUR CITY BUDGET REQUIRES CAREFUL DELIBERATION, BUT THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITIES MUST BE OUR MAIN PRIORITY.

I ASK YOU FOR I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF AMORTIZATION FOR THESE TWO FACILITIES.

AND LET'S TURN OUR PAGE IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. KEY WEST.

MIC CHECK. ONE, TWO. ALL RIGHT. SO I STAND HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE DHA WEST DALLAS FOR THE

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THE AIR WE BREATHE EVERY DAY, AS YOU ALL HAVE HEARD FOR YEARS, ALTERS EVERY ASPECT OF OUR LIFE, INCLUDING OUR PSYCHOLOGICAL FACTORS. LET ME GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND.

MY TEN YEAR OLD SON WAS DIAGNOSED WITH ASTHMA AT THE AGE OF ONE, HAS NEVER HAD SWOLLEN LUNGS IN HIS LIFE UNTIL WE MOVED HERE IN WEST DALLAS. I HAVE ALWAYS HAD A GOOD BILL OF HEALTH, NEVER HAD THE FLU OR ANY OTHER ISSUES BESIDES SEASONAL ALLERGIES, YET STAND OVER HERE IN WEST DALLAS FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS HAVE ALTERED MY OXYGEN LEVELS AND MY OTHER CHILDREN WHO HAS NEVER HAD A HISTORY OF ASTHMA. LET ME REPEAT THAT. AS WELL AS MY OTHER CHILDREN WHO HAS NEVER HAD A HISTORY OF ASTHMA ATTACKS YET. MY DAUGHTER HAS HER FIRST VERY ONE STAND HERE IN WEST DALLAS THE NUMBER OF TIMES WE'VE GOTTEN SICK, ACHINGLY SICK FOR WHILE STAYING HERE, A COMMUNITY THAT WAS DESIGNED TO UPLIFT OUR ECONOMY, WHERE AMERICANS FAMILIES CAN FIND A STABLE FOUNDATION AND GET THEIR LIFE ON TRACK TO PURSUE A DEGREE OR TRADE, OR TO PUT THEIR CHILDREN IN A THRIVING COMMUNITY, ONE FULL OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT DISRUPT THE SCHOOL TO PRISON PIPELINE SYSTEM.

YET FROM THE START, FROM THE MOMENT WE STEPPED FOOT TO EVEN SEE THE FLOOR PLAN, OR EVEN DRIVING THROUGH YOUR ENCOUNTER WITH TOXICITY, THINGS THAT ARE MEANT TO KILL US SLOWLY KILL YOU.

THE RANGE THAT THESE FIVE TOXIC CHEMICALS REACH IS INSANE.

AND WE ALL ARE BREATHING IN THIS TOXICITY. SO WHAT'S THE PLAN? WE NEED A DATE. NO MORE DELAYS. HOLD POLLUTERS ACCOUNTABLE.

ASSIGN A CONSULTANT A CONSULTANT. GIVE THEM A DEADLINE.

INCLUDE THE PEOPLE. STOP PLAYING WITH US. THIS IS DANGEROUS.

THESE CHEMICALS ARE MESSING WITH OUR MINDS. THAT'S YOUR. ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT ARE STILL DEVELOPING. TODAY IS EARTH DAY.

THAT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE. THAT'S A WARNING FROM GOD.

GREAT JOB. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA, I MOVE TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO HEAR ALL OF THE REMAINING DALLAS SPEAKERS.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION? SEEING NONE SO ORDERED.

THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, KEVIN MCNIVEN'S.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS KEVIN EVANS. I'VE BEEN A DALLAS RESIDENT FOR SINCE 1959, EXCEPT FOR A FEW YEARS IN COLLEGE IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT AND CURRENTLY LIVE IN LAKEWOOD AREA.

I WANT TO TELL A STORY ABOUT A MAN, A FRIEND OF MINE NAMED TED AMBERG.

TED AMBERG WAS AN ARCHITECTURE GRADUATE OF NOTRE DAME IN 1958, AND HE SERVED AS OFFICE MANAGER FOR I.M.

PEI FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF CITY HALL AND LATER FOR THE MEYERSON.

HE LIVED IN DALLAS. HE EDUCATED HIS CHILDREN IN DALLAS.

HIS DAUGHTER STILL LIVES IN DALLAS. IN 1978, HE WAS PRESIDENT OF OUR ALUMNI CLUB, AND HE CALLED ME AS VICE PRESIDENT TO PICK UP AN ORDER THAT HE'D MADE AT CUBBY'S FOR SNACKS, SAUSAGE, AND ALL THAT FOR A NOTRE DAME GET TOGETHER.

I SAID, TED, WELL, BECAUSE HE HAD AN OBLIGATION TO HAVE A LUNCH WITH HENRY MOORE TO DISCUSS THE PLACEMENT OF THE SCULPTURE THAT WAS COMMISSIONED BY FRITZ HORN.

I SAID, TED, THAT'S A TOUGH CALL. CHOICE BETWEEN LUNCH WITH THE LIVING LEGEND AND SHAG AND COLD CUTS FOR NOTRE DAME HAPPY HOUR.

BUT HE LAUGHED AND WENT ON. HE RETURNED IN 1999 WITH THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS CONVENTION, AND HE SPOKE AT A GATHERING THAT I PUT TOGETHER AT CITY PLACE, AND HE DESCRIBED THE IMPACT OF I.M.

PEI AND HENRY COBB ON THE DALLAS SKYLINE, AS WELL AS ANOTHER NOTRE DAME ARCHITECT, JOHN BURGESS, WHO WITH PHILIP JOHNSON CONSTRUCTED THE COMERICA BUILDING AND CRESCENT AND ALL THAT.

ANYWAY, IT'D BE PRESUMPTUOUS OF ME. SO I WILL NOT CONTINUE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU.

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GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS FIONA MCGUIRE AND I LIVE IN BLUFFVIEW IN DALLAS CITY COUNCIL, DISTRICT 13.

I'M HERE TODAY AS A MEMBER OF THE FRIENDS OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND I'M PROUD TO CALL THE BACHMAN LAKE BRANCH MY HOME LIBRARY.

I'M A LIFELONG LIBRARY LOVER. SOME OF MY EARLIEST MEMORIES INVOLVE BRINGING HOME BIG STACKS OF PICTURE BOOKS TO READ WITH MY GRANDMOTHER.

OR BIKING TO THE LIBRARY TO PICK OUT MY NEXT NANCY DREW NOVEL WHEN I WAS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

TO ME, LIBRARIES HAVE ALWAYS FELT A LITTLE BIT LIKE MAGIC.

YOU KNOW, YOU YOU GET YOUR LIBRARY CARD AND SUDDENLY YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THIS WHOLE WORLD'S ANYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY WANT TO LEARN ABOUT.

ALL FOR FREE. LIBRARIES ARE SAFE SPACES IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE CAN COME TOGETHER TO LEARN, TO GROW, TO ENJOY. I THINK WE NEED SPACES LIKE THIS MORE THAN EVER.

SO MY ASK IS THIS RESTORE THE $2.6 MILLION TO THE LIBRARY OPERATING BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN KEEP ALL LIBRARIES OPEN AND EXPAND HOURS AT STRATEGIC FLAGSHIP LOCATIONS. THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED TO PREVENT CLOSURES, MAINTAIN SERVICES AND RETAIN STAFF.

WHILE MANY SERVICES THE CITY SUPPORTS ALSO RELY ON COUNTY, STATE OR FEDERAL DOLLARS, THE LIBRARY HAS NO SAFETY NET.

IT'S UP TO YOU, THIS COUNCIL, TO PRIORITIZE AND FUND THE LIBRARIES.

I ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE THIS BODY TO ACT ON THE MEMO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA SHARED DURING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, ARTS AND CULTURE MEETING ON MONDAY TO UTILIZE THE SALE OF THE SKILLMAN SOUTHWEST LIBRARY TO RESTORE FUNDING TO THE LIBRARY FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

THE SOONER THIS ACTION IS MADE, THE SOONER THE LIBRARY CAN BEGIN FOCUSING EFFORTS ON MAINTAINING AND SAFEGUARDING SERVICES RATHER THAN REDUCING AND DOWNSIZING.

OUR LIBRARIES ARE SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT INSTITUTIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE RELY ON YOU TO FUND AND PRIORITIZE THEM FOR ALL OF US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE. THANK YOU TO THE REMAINING CITY OF DALLAS REGISTERED SPEAKERS.

I WILL CALL YOUR NAME. I'LL ASK. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, I WILL ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST 2 OR 3.

THESE FIRST FEW PEWS ROSE IN THE CENTER SECTION.

JAMES FOWLER. IF JAMES FOWLER IS PRESENT, YOU MAY COME TO THE MICROPHONE.

YOLANDA THOMAS, LAURA G. SCOTT. BARBARA. VENTURA.

JEDEDIAH ULRICH. DENISE BENAVIDEZ IS CANCELED.

TED. ELLIS. TAMIKA. DEROSE. KATHRYN. RAY. RAMIRO.

LUNA. TODD ATKINS IS VIRTUAL. JOANNA. SIMMONS.

ANITA. NUNEZ. NORMAN. HOWDEN. SANA. SAEED. NOEL ESTRADA IS VIRTUAL.

LAURA DAY IS VIRTUAL. SOCORRO. RAMOS. AVILES.

JAMES. FOWLER. JAMES FOWLER IS NOT PRESENT.

YOLANDA. YOLANDA THOMAS. OKAY, MISS THOMAS, YOU MAY COME FORWARD.

YES.

GOOD MORNING. COUNCIL. BECAUSE I'M UNDER AUTHORITY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

I WILL OPEN WITH ISAIAH TEN ONE THROUGH TWO. WOE TO THOSE WHO MAKE UNJUST LAWS, TO THOSE WHO ISSUE OPPRESSIVE DECREES, TO DEPRIVE THE POOR OF THEIR RIGHTS AND WITHHOLD JUSTICE FROM THE OPPRESSED OF MY PEOPLE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I CAN RECALL IN THE HISTORY OF JOB THAT AN INDUSTRIAL PLANT HAS THOUSANDS OF TONS OF OPEN DEBRIS, SANDS AND ROCKS, HUNDREDS OF FEET IN THE AIR BLOWING OVER, YET THEY MEET ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

THE COMPANY. AUSTIN BRIDGE AND ROADS, A COUNCILMAN ADAM BAZALDUA SPEARHEADED TO LEAVE.

REPLACE THEM WITH A VISIBLE, OPEN, TOXIC ENVIRONMENT.

YOU DON'T NEED A REPORT TO SEE THE DAMAGE. THE PRESENT PLANT IS CIRCULATING THROUGH JOPPA.

YOU HAVE NUMBER FOUR, POLLUTER MCCOMMAS BLUFF IN DALLAS, WHOSE 30 YEAR CONTRACT EXPIRED 2024, BUT NO TALKS OF RELOCATING A KNOWN POLLUTER. WHEREAS THERE HAS BEEN NO TEMPO VIOLATIONS PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY.

TIMCO IS A COMPANY WHO HAS BEEN FOR YEARS INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITY, EVEN GIVING JOBS TO A JOPPA ENGINEERING STUDENT.

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DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES MUST BE TAKEN FROM THEIR OTHER POSITIONS.

TYPICALLY, IT'S A PROCESS THAT TAKES YEARS. IN FACT, THERE IS AN ONGOING PROCESS THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS SINCE 2018.

I WOULD HATE TO SEE WHAT IT HAS ALREADY COST ACCRUED ON THAT ONE.

IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN ON THE CITY, NOT TO MENTION LEGAL CHALLENGES OR COSTLY WIN OR LOSE.

IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE AT ALL. IT SHRINKS THE TAX BASE REVENUE TAMKO BRINGS TO THE CITY.

IT DISCOURAGES CITYWIDE INVESTMENT, NEW AND EXISTING.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GUYS. IF WE CAN, PLEASE HOLD APPLAUSE. WE WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OUTBURSTS AFTER EVERY SINGLE MEMBER.

THANK YOU. LAURA. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LAURA JACKO. I'M A DALLAS RESIDENT IN DISTRICT 14.

RIGHT NOW, THE STATE OF TEXAS IS ATTEMPTING TO BLACKMAIL OUR CITY TO FORCE US TO CHANGE LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY POLICY. GREG ABBOTT AND KEN PAXTON HAVE THREATENED TO WITHDRAW $32 MILLION IN PUBLIC SAFETY GRANTS AND $55 MILLION IN WORLD CUP SECURITY FUNDING, THREATENING THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR RESIDENTS TO COERCE US INTO CHANGING POLICIES ALREADY IN PLACE THAT KEEP OUR RESIDENTS SAFE. WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THE STATE TO USE PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING AS A POLITICAL WEAPON.

THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN NOVEMBER DECLARED THEIR DECISION TO REJECT A PROPOSED $25 MILLION PARTNERSHIP WITH U.S.

IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT BY DECLINING THE FEDERAL 287 G PROGRAM.

THIS DECISION WAS MADE AFTER DALLAS RESIDENTS FILLED THESE CHAMBERS, REPRESENTING EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT IN DALLAS TO EXPRESS THEIR OPPOSITION. IN THE MONTHS FOLLOWING THAT DECISION, PUBLIC OPINION HAS NOT CHANGED.

IN FACT, IN LIGHT OF THE ATROCITIES THAT WE WITNESSED FROM ICE AGENTS IN OUR STREETS AND NEWS OF HORRID CONDITIONS IN ICE CONCENTRATION CAMPS, IF ANYTHING, THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS HAVE BECOME MORE APPALLED AT THE CRUELTY THAT ICE IS INFLICTING ON OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO MY MESSAGE TO THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY IS TO STICK TO YOUR GUNS AND NOT BEND TO THE PRESSURE FROM WEAK LEADERS WHO WILL PLAY POLITICS FOR SELF-GAIN. DALLAS DESERVES LEADERSHIP THAT REPRESENTS OUR PEOPLE IN DALLAS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT GUYS. NO OUTBURST, NO APPLAUSE AFTER SPEAKERS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. BARBARA VENTURA. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS BARBARA VENTURA. I LIVE AT 2318 WYCLIFFE AVENUE, WHICH IS MR. JESSE MORENO'S DISTRICT. THERE IS AN EMPTY LOT NEXT TO ME AT 2314, WHERE AT 2322, THE GENTLEMAN IS RUNNING AN AUTO BODY LOT OUT OF HIS HOME.

HE PARKS THE LEFTOVER CARS RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE.

HE DISRUPTS MY SLEEP. HE DISRUPTS MY BREATHING FROM THE CAR FUMES.

I'VE TALKED TO BRENDA AT MR. MORENO'S OFFICE, AND SHE GIVES ME AN EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE.

I HAVE A OVER 103 CODE VIOLATIONS THAT I'VE WRITTEN DOWN, AND I'M STILL DEALING WITH THIS PROBLEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO, WHERE ELSE TO GO.

I'M MISSING TIME AT WORK TO COME DOWN HERE AND COMPLAIN INSTEAD OF GETTING IT DONE OVER THE TELEPHONE.

I'D LIKE DIRECTION. I'D LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO NEXT AND HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THIS ISSUE.

IT'S VERY ANNOYING AND I'M TIRED OF DEALING WITH IT, SO IF I COULD GET SOME HELP, I'D GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JEDIDIAH. ULRICH.

HELLO, JEDIDIAH. JED. ULRICH. I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE, A LOVELY, BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD OF OAK CLIFF JUST ON THE EDGE OF DOWNTOWN.

I TAKE THE BUS. IT'S A LOVELY, GREAT, DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD OF PEOPLE OF ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

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I MEAN, I MEAN, I'LL GIVE OUR PERPETUALLY ABSENT MAYOR CREDIT, AT LEAST HE DIDN'T SPEAK UP ON THIS.

AND SO TO THAT EXTENT WITH BRETT KAVANAUGH'S RACIAL PROFILING, WALKING OUR STREETS WITH THESE FORCES, CAUSING EVEN FURTHER BANKRUPTCY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AS ECONOMIC TURMOIL WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO OUR SHORES AS IT HAS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD WITH ALL THE FANTASTIC STUFF GOING ON. PEOPLE NEED TO FEEL SAFE WHEN THEY GO TO WORK.

AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO LOOK LIKE A GREAT CITY, WHICH I TRULY BELIEVE WE ARE WE, WE NEED WHEN THE FANS COME HERE FOR FIFA LATER THIS YEAR IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THESE PEOPLE LOOKING TO PROJECT WHATEVER THEY WANT AND USING ANY SORT OF PERPETUAL TERRORIST BOOGEYMAN ON OUR OWN NEIGHBORS WHO, REGARDLESS OF THEIR LEGAL STATUS AND THEN OUR OWN TAURUS.

AND ON THAT NOTE IF ANY OF YOU ALL DECIDE THAT WE NEED TO RE-APPROACH THIS IN THE FUTURE, THAT WE THE PEOPLE WILL OSTRACIZE YOU IN YOUR POLITICAL CAREERS AND WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU NEVER HOLD AN OFFICE AGAIN. AND OUR EYES ARE ON YOU.

WE'VE HAD THIS FIGHT BEFORE AND WE WILL DEFINITELY DO IT AGAIN.

AND GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DENISE BENAVIDEZ HAS CANCELED TED ELLIS.

GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR, HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE. MY NAME IS TED ELLIS.

I AM A DALLAS NATIVE. YES. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE JESUS WAS A BABY.

I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG, LONG TIME. AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE, MISS BLACKMON DISTRICT, AND I'M ALSO HERE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST ANY CHANGES OR BLACKMAIL THAT GOVERNOR ABBOTT AND KEN PAXTON ARE TRYING TO DO WITH REGARDS TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDS, AS WELL AS FIFA FUNDS. I MEAN, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE PARTY OF SAFETY AND SECURITY, AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT HAPPEN CLEARLY.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD DO BEFORE MAKING ANY TYPE OF VOTE OR DECISION ON ANY OF THIS STUFF THAT ABBOTT WANTS US TO DO AND PULLING OUR FUNDS IS MAYBE GO VISIT ONE OF THESE DETENTION CENTERS AND SEE THE ATROCITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING DOWN THERE.

I SHOULDN'T CALL IT A DETENTION CENTER. BASICALLY, IT'S A CONCENTRATION CAMP.

AND THE HORRIBLE CONDITIONS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING FORCED INTO CAGED AREAS WITH ONE TOILET AND IT'S JUST DISGUSTING. THIS IS NOT AMERICA. WE ARE BETTER THAN THIS, AND I WOULD REALLY BEG THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF NOT TO BOW DOWN TO THE GOVERNOR'S OBVIOUS PANDERING FOR VOTES AND TO GET REELECTED.

WE'VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE, AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN, AND I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL STAY THE COURSE AND NOT.

CAVE IN TO THESE RIDICULOUS DEMANDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, TAMIKA DURROW. GOOD MORNING. I'M TAMIKA DURROW.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL TODAY. I'M TAMIKA DURROW.

I LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 19 YEARS. I'M ALSO THE CITY OF DALLAS ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONER.

AND TODAY I'M STANDING OUT HERE, WROTE DOWN A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF. I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK IT RIGHT.

TODAY, I'M STANDING HERE TO OPPOSE, TO FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, FOR JOBS.

I OWN MY PROPERTY. JOPPA HAS BEEN UNDERREPRESENTED OVER YEARS.

LEADERS IN THAT COMMUNITY HAVE STOLE MONEY FROM THAT COMMUNITY, BROUGHT A COMPANIES TO THEIR COMMUNITY THAT AFFECTS OUR HEALTH AND OUR OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN GET A GROCERY STORE. SO TODAY I STAND HERE.

THE LEADERS IN THIS COMMUNITY HAS BRUNG THE TEMCO IN A ROOFING COMPANY HERE TO SUPPORT THE ROOFING COMPANY LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT DON'T STAY THERE. THEY ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THIS INDUSTRIAL COMPANY THAT IS AFFECTING OUR LIFE, WHERE IT IS STOPPING US TO GET IN A GROCERY STORE OR ANY DIFFERENCE AROUND OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THEY DO NOT OWN PROPERTY OR LIVE THERE. OKAY.

AND SO I'M HERE TO SAY I OPPOSE TEMCO. THE COMMUNITY OF JOB IS ALREADY IN PROCESS OF THE AUTHORIZED

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AND NOW WE HAVE RESIDENTS KNOW WE HAVE SO-CALLED LEADERS OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY ORCHESTRATING WITH THESE COMPANIES TO SUPPORT THEM ON A FINANCIAL GAIN AND NOT OUR HEALTH AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND I'M HERE TO SAY, PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ME AS A PROPERTY OWNER.

I WORKED HARD FOR MY PROPERTY, AND I DON'T WANT NO ONE WHO DOESN'T OWN PROPERTY TO COME DOWN HERE AND SAY, LET A COMPANY LIKE TAMKO AFFECT THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THAT'S YOUR THANK YOU GUYS. GUYS. NO OUTBURSTS PLEASE.

THANK YOU. CATHERINE. RAY. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.

I'M. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THERE'S A BASS BUTTON AT THE BASE OF THE MICROPHONE.

THERE'S A WHAT? OH, OKAY. I'M CATHERINE RAE. I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF DALLAS.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE. I'M PRETTY SURPRISED I'M HERE.

I HAVE WORKED IN FAMILY VIOLENCE FOR MOST OF MY CAREER.

I WORKED AT JEWISH FAMILY SERVICE. I WORKED AT TIMBERLINE, AND NOW I'M IN PRIVATE PRACTICE.

I'VE BEEN A 25 YEAR RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE, AND I'M HERE TO SAY THAT THIS IS INSANE, THIS IDEA OF US BEING BLACKMAILED BY THE MAYOR OR NOT THE MAYOR, THE GOVERNOR, AND THESE CRONIES WHO WANT TO TAKE OUR FUNDING FOR THE MOST BASIC THING.

I WANT TO FEEL SAFE. I KNOW EACH OF YOU WANT TO FEEL SAFE.

I SIT AND LISTEN EVERY DAY IN MY OFFICE ACROSS THE STREET FROM PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL TO PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO FEEL SAFE. AND WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING TO JEOPARDIZE BASIC SAFETY. AND SO I'M ASKING I'M PLEADING FOR YOUR VOTE AND FOR YOUR HELP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RAMIRO. LUNA.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RAMIRO LUNA.

I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SOMOS TEXAS ACTION.

I COME SPEAK BEFORE YOU STRAIGHT OUT OF OAK CLIFF, WHICH IS WHERE I CALL HOME.

AND TO SPEAK TO YOU ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE REPRESENT A COMMUNITY THAT HAS BEEN UNDER ATTACK BY ICE AND A COMMUNITY THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING THREATENED.

OUR COMMUNITY REFUSES TO BE POLLUTED BY VIOLENT POLICING AND BEING COERCED INTO COLLUDING WITH THE LARGEST AGENCY OF STATE SANCTIONED VIOLENCE. AND I SAY THIS NOT TO MINCE WORDS.

SINCE 2025, THERE HAS BEEN 34 SHOOTINGS IN PUBLIC SPACES IN OUR STREETS CONDUCTED BY FEDERAL AGENTS.

49 DEATHS HAVE HAPPENED INSIDE THE ICE DETENTION CENTERS.

AND THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BRING US SAFETY. MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DETAINED HAVE NO CRIMINAL RECORD.

SO THE HYPOCRISY OF US PITTING COMMUNITY TRUST FOR COMMUNITY SAFETY MAKES NO SENSE.

SO I'M ASKING YOU NOT TO SELL OUT OUR CITY TO GAIN A GOVERNOR'S POLITICAL POINTS.

OUR COMMUNITY IS TOO STRONG, TOO BEAUTIFUL TO BE TAKEN BY POLITICS AS USUAL.

I'M HERE TO AGAIN MENTION THAT WE CANNOT ALLOW THE HYPOCRISY OF A GOVERNOR TO TAKE HOLD OF OUR CITY.

SINCE I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF US NOT BEING POLLUTED BY THE ACTIONS OF ICE, I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME TO SAY, TAKE THE POLLUTERS OUT OF OUR WEST DALLAS NEIGHBORS AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TODD ATKINS MR. ATKINS WILL BE VIRTUAL.

YEAH. GOOD MORNING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M DOCTOR TODD ATKINS 3918 CROSBY STREET, DALLAS, TEXAS. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF NOT ONLY MY CHURCH, SALEM INSTITUTIONAL BAPTIST CHURCH, BUT ALSO THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK FAITH COALITION IN

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TO MAKE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND CHURCHES WHO FEED OUR COMMUNITY FALL UNDER THE SAME RESTRICTIONS AS A STREET SERVICE VENDOR.

OUR COMMUNITY, OUR CHURCHES, OUR NONPROFIT HAS FED THE COMMUNITIES FOR DECADES.

WE HAVE DONE SO WITH OUR OWN RESOURCES, WITH OUR OWN MANPOWER AND WOMEN POWER, AND WE DO NOT FEEL AS THOUGH IT IS A NECESSARY CHANGE UNDER THE CLOAK OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND PUBLIC HEALTH TO REQUIRE US TO GO INTO THE SAME REGULATIONS AS A STREET VENDOR OR HAS ANY OTHER FOOD SERVICES, ALTHOUGH THE PERMITTING MAY BE FREE TO ALLOW US TO HAVE TO GET PERMITS FOR EACH TIME WE HAVE COMMUNITY FEEDING IS AN UNNECESSARY ROADBLOCK.

WE ARE WILLING TO TAKE ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND HAVE BEEN WILLING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY CONSISTENTLY OUT OF OUR OWN RESOURCES, AND WE FEEL AS THOUGH THE CITY OF DALLAS SHOULD BE CONGRATULATING US AND NOT BE CHALLENGING US TO REQUIRE TO GO ADDITIONAL STEPS TO DO A MINISTRY THAT WE ARE DOING ON OUR OWN. AND SO I WOULD ADVISE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS REALLY CONSIDER THIS.

IT IS NOT A PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY ISSUE. IT IS A MINISTRY THAT OUR CHURCHES, OUR NONPROFITS ARE CONTINUING TO DO CONSISTENTLY.

WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE CITY, WHICH THE CITY HAS BEEN UNWILLING TO DO SO.

SO PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW US TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY ADDITIONAL REGULATIONS THAT MAKES THIS JOB EVEN MORE DIFFICULT.

I THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

JOANNA SIMMONS. HI, EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JOANNA SIMMONS. I LIVE IN ADAM BAZALDUA DISTRICT, DISTRICT SEVEN.

AND I'M HERE TO SAY THAT OUR CITY POLICE FORCE IS VERY UNDERSTAFFED AND IS ALREADY UNABLE TO RESPOND TO US IN THE MANNER THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO, AND NOR ARE THEY TRAINED TO PERFORM THE DUTIES OF ICE AGENTS.

THEREFORE, I AM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THE DPD TAKING ON ANY ADDITIONAL DUTIES.

I BELIEVE THIS IS A FEDERAL ISSUE, AND LIKE THE PEOPLE BEFORE ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, PLEASE STAND UP TO THOSE BULLIES IN AUSTIN AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO STAND BY YOUR GUNS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANITA NUNEZ.

GOOD MORNING. I'M HERE. MY NAME IS ANITA NUNEZ.

I WORK FOR WORKERS DEFENSE ACTION FUND, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR MEMBERSHIP.

OUR MEMBER, DANIELLE, WHO'S HERE, WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE AS MEMBERS PEOPLE OF WORKERS DEFENSE HAVE PUT OUR TRUST IN Y'ALL TO PROTECT WORKERS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IMMIGRANT FAMILIES FEEL SAFE.

GENERAL ORDER 135.04. IS ONE OF THE FEW SAFEGUARDS THAT EXIST THAT PROTECT AGAINST UNCONSTITUTIONAL POLICING AND RACIAL PROFILING. YOU ALL KNOW THIS.

I THINK THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IN 2017 WAS SHOWED REALLY ADMIRABLE LEADERSHIP IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS WAS IN THERE BECAUSE IT BALANCES OUT THAT COMPLIANCE.

SO THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING AGAINST THE LAW. RIGHT.

WITH THOSE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS THAT WE NEED OUT IN THE IN THE STREETS, IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT GIVES THE ORDERS, GIVE THE POLICE CLARITY AND HELP THEM NAVIGATE THE EVER CHANGING POLICIES THAT ARE COMING FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

IT'S CRAZY. LIKE IT CHANGES ALL THE TIME. AND THEY NEED THAT SUPPORT.

RIGHT? AND THOSE THINGS THAT ARE COMING DOWN ARE MOTIVATED BY LIKE RACIST POLITICAL AGENDAS.

SO THEY NEED THAT SUPPORT FROM Y'ALL, FROM THE GENERAL ORDERS, FROM THE CHIEF TO TELL THEM HOW TO ACT IN THE, IN THE STREETS. SO OUR OTHER MEMBER, ERICA, WANTS YOU TO REMEMBER THAT ABUSES AREN'T GOING TO STOP, BUT REPORTING CRIMES WILL THE, THIS WILL EXTINGUISH THE SMALL AMOUNT OF TRUST THAT'S LEFT BETWEEN THE PEOPLE AND POLICE.

SO IT WOULD BE REALLY BAD. ABBOTT IS ENGAGING IN POLITICAL THEATER WHICH HAS ALREADY CLAIMED A BUNCH OF LIVES AND WILL CONTINUE TO.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO YOU TO HOLD THE LINE.

IF THEY CAN'T PROTECT US, THEN WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NORMAN HOWDEN.

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I'M AN OLD GUY. HOW OLD? WELL, YOU KNOW, BACK IN THE END OF WORLD WAR TWO, MY PARENTS MET AT THE PANTEX PLANT UP THERE IN AMARILLO.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT PLANT MAKES? IT MAKES BOMBS.

WHICH MAKES ME A REAL BABY BOOMER. AND BACK IN THAT DAY, YOU REMEMBER IN THE 1950S, WE HAD RED SCARES BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE WORRIED THAT THE RUSSIANS WERE COMING.

THEY WERE GOING TO INFILTRATE OUR COUNTRY, WHETHER THEY TOOK US OVER BY FORCE OR BY DECEIT, WE DIDN'T KNOW. BUT ANYONE WANT WAS OPPOSED TO THEM COERCING THEIR COUNTRY, PUTTING THEM IN THEIR PEOPLE IN GULAGS, FORCING THEM TO COMPLY WITH OUTRAGEOUS CONFORMITY.

AND YET HERE WE HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY TRYING TO DO THAT NOW TO BUILD OUR OWN GULAGS.

AND I REALIZE THERE ARE FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE'RE ON TRACK TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING IT EVERY DAY.

BUT WE NEED TO BE AWARE THAT WE CANNOT GIVE IN.

IT TAKES GUTS TO STAND UP TO THIS KIND OF CONFRONTATION.

WE NEED TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY. THANK YOU.

SANA. SAEED.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS PRESIDENT OF THE FARMERS MARKET STAKEHOLDERS ASSOCIATION TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM 12.

SOME OF OUR FMSA MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS FROM THE CEDARS ARE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WORKDAY. THE ISSUE OF STREET FEEDING OR STREET VENDING IS OFTEN FRAMED AS COMPASSION VERSUS REGULATION, BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE TRUE. COMPASSION INCLUDES SAFETY, DIGNITY, AND CONSISTENCY.

PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS DESERVE FOOD THAT IS HANDLED SAFELY AND MEETS BASIC PUBLIC HEALTH STANDARDS.

WE WOULD ACCEPT NOTHING LESS IN ANY OTHER SETTING, AND WE MUST NOT LOWER OUR STANDARDS HERE.

THAT MEANS MAKING SURE WE'RE NOT UNINTENTIONALLY PUTTING VULNERABLE PEOPLE AT RISK.

PERMITTING CREATES CLEAR ACCOUNTABILITY, AND RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NONE FOR CLEANUP.

WE HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED BOTH LARGE AND SMALL DISTRIBUTIONS, AND THE OUTCOME IS THE SAME.

CONTAINERS SCATTERED LEFTOVER FOOD THROUGHOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONDITIONS CAN QUICKLY BECOME UNSANITARY, INCLUDING INSTANCES OF HUMAN WASTE IN PUBLIC SPACES.

THIS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE, AND IT CREATES A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN FOR RESIDENTS, FAMILIES AND THE INDIVIDUALS BEING SERVED.

RESIDENTS IN THESE AREAS ALSO DESERVE TO LIVE A LIFE IN A CLEAN AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND TAKE PRIDE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

A PERMITTING PROCESS SETS CLEAR EXPECTATIONS ON WHO'S RESPONSIBLE, WHAT CLEANUP ENTAILS, AND HOW STANDARDS ARE ENFORCED, AND THAT PROTECTS THE DIGNITY OF EVERYONE INVOLVED.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MAKES SPACE FOR VARIOUS VIEWPOINTS, BUT ON THIS WE ARE UNITED.

AND ON BEHALF OF THE FARMER'S MARKET NEIGHBORHOOD, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS AMENDMENT, AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE CITY ATTORNEY TAMMY PALOMINO AND THANK HER FOR HER DECADES OF SERVICE TO OUR GREAT CITY.

THANK YOU, NOEL ESTRADA. MISS ESTRADA WILL BE VIRTUAL.

MISS ESTRADA, THERE YOU GO. GOOD MORNING TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS NOEL. I AM HERE AS A MEMBER OF DISTRICT 11 WHO WANTS TO HELP THE CITY OF DALLAS RECONSIDER AND REALIZE THE LOCAL POWER THAT IT HAS AGAINST PUBLIC SAFETY.

DEFUNDING THREATS THAT ARE CURRENTLY AGAINST DALLAS BY GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT.

LAST THURSDAY, THE OFFICE OF GOVERNOR SENT THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, SENT A LETTER TO THE DALLAS MAYOR, ERIC JOHNSON, DEMANDING THAT THE CITY REPEAL ITS DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GENERAL ORDER 315.04, OR RISK LOSING 32.1 MILLION OF PUBLIC SAFETY GRANTS AND $55.1 $1 MILLION OF FIFA WORLD CUP SECURITY FUNDING, AN EXPECTED EVENT TO GENERATE APPROXIMATELY $2 BILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR OUR REGION IS SOMETHING THIS CITY AND REGION ARE GOING TO BENEFIT GREATLY FROM. FOR THE STATE AUTHORITY TO THREATEN THIS FUNDING, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE DALLAS PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT A PRIORITY IN GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT'S

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IF PUBLIC SAFETY IS WHAT GOVERNOR ABBOTT IS CURRENTLY CONCERNED ABOUT, OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A THREAT OR A MANIPULATION TACTIC TO OVERRIDE LOCAL POLICING AND TO BE COMPLIANT. EXERCISING THESE POLITICAL MANIPULATIONS FOR HIS REELECTION, ALONG WITH INCREASING ICE PRESENCE, HAS NO ROOM HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I WANT TO THANK THOSE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE AGREED TO TO THE SIGN ON STATEMENT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM BEFORE THIS MEETING OPPOSING THIS.

AND TO THOSE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE STILL DECIDING HOW TO MOVE FORWARD IN DALLAS, I HOPE YOU REALIZE TODAY THAT DALLAS CANNOT BE SWAYED INTO COMPLIANCE THROUGH FEAR, AND WE STAND WITH YOU WHEN YOU MAKE THE CORRECT DECISION.

TODAY, DFW IS GETTING READY TO HOST ONE OF THE WORLD'S BIGGEST INTERNATIONAL EVENTS AND THE FIFA THE FIFA WORLD CUP.

ABBOTT'S ACTIONS TO CREATING FEAR AND RISKING THE LIVES OF RESIDENTS AND ALL OF OUR INTERNATIONAL VISITORS IS A SHAMEFUL THREAT.

SO TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU. I HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LAURA DAY, IT'S NOT VIRTUAL.

NOT IN PERSON. IT'S NOT PRESENT. SOCORRO. RAMOS.

AVILES.

GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US IN THIS MORNING.

I'M SOCORRO RAMOS AVILES. I CALL DALLAS HOME SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

SO I'M REALLY GRATEFUL OF BEING HERE. BUT I ALSO WORK WITH THE WORKERS DEFENSE FUND AND WE HAVE WORKERS HERE TODAY.

MOST OF THEM ARE IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE SUFFERING AND BEING PART OF ALL OF THIS THEATER THAT IS BEING BASED IN AUSTIN WITH GOVERNOR ABBOTT AND PAXTON.

RIGHT? SO WE JUST WANT TO TO CALL AND TO LET US RESPECTFULLY, ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE IN FEAR. JUST IMAGINE NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THE BASIC THINGS. EVEN GOING TO A GAS STATION TO FILL UP YOUR CAR IS A HAZARD. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE DOING RAIDS IN THERE.

SO PLEASE HAVE IN CONSIDERATION OUR PEOPLE. WHEN I SAY OUR PEOPLE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE ARE IMMIGRANTS OR NOT.

IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN YOUR COMMUNITIES.

IT'S THE PEOPLE WITH THAT PAY THEIR TAXES, THAT ARE GOOD CITIZENS, THAT DESERVE TO LIVE WITH DIGNITY.

OH THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR DALLAS RESIDENCE.

OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKERS. THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CONCLUSION OF ITS CITY BUSINESS.

MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE.

SPEAKERS READY FOR VOTING. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR VOTING AGENDA THEN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AGENDA ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE APRIL 8TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

[MINUTES]

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, DOLORES PHILLIPS. MISS PHILLIPS WILL BE SPEAKING ON ALL AGENDA ITEMS. MISS MISS PHILLIPS, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON ALL AGENDA ITEMS. MADAM SECRETARY, I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T KNOW. DOLORES PHILLIPS, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

CITY MANAGER TOLBERT, I PLEAD WITH YOU TO FIND THE FUNDING FOR THE LIBRARIES.

THEY ARE A REQUIRED NECESSITY TO ASSIST IN GROOMING PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.

THE CITY OF DALLAS CITIZENS NEED THAT PRESENT CITIZENS AND FUTURE.

YOU HAVE HANDOUTS. MR. WELLS, CEO OF DALLAS MAVERICKS.

PLEASE LISTEN TO ME. WE NEED YOU. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

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I HAVEN'T HEARD ENOUGH YET BEYOND DPD, HOMELAND SECURITY.

HOLD OFF ON THAT UNTIL I HEAR WHERE SHE GOES.

GO AHEAD, MISS PHILLIPS. GO AHEAD. THIS IS ON ALL AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY, I'M SENDING A SHOUT OUT TO MR. WELCH TO BRING HIS MASTERPIECE HERE.

PEACE FOR ALL PEOPLE TO LET IT BE A PLACE OF PEACE, TO MAKE GREAT MEMORIES.

YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS. NOW HEAR ME OUT. IN 2017, PHILIP KINGSTON ON THE RECORD HERE, ASKED WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING TO ROBERT GRODEN, WHO IS TWO DECADES MY SENIOR.

THEY BATTLED HIM FOR 20 YEARS. THIS IS ON TOPIC.

HOMELAND SECURITY AND YOU IN MY MINUTES. MAYOR MAYOR JOHNSON.

THIS IS ON ALL TOPICS HOMELAND SECURITY, THE FUNDING, IMMIGRANTS, ALL OF THAT.

AS TO WHY I DON'T THINK SO. SO IT IS I'M GOING TO HAVE TO I'M GONNA HAVE TO RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING YOUR REMARKS TO AN AGENDA ITEM.

THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM TO STOP YOU PERTAINING TO D, P, D IN HOMELAND.

AND YOU STILL ON MY MINUTES. MAYOR JOHNSON, I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE YOUR TIME, BUT I AM TELLING YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET ON AN AGENDA ITEM AND IDENTIFY ALL AGENDA ITEMS. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING ON THE RECORD. KEEP GOING.

WITH THAT BEING SAID. 2019. 2017 PHILIP KINGSTON ASKED.

FOR AN INVESTIGATION INTO WHO DID WHAT THEY DID TO ROBERT GRODEN.

OKAY. THERE'S NOTHING ON THE AGENDA ABOUT AN INVESTIGATION FROM 20.

THIS. THIS IS ABOUT HOMELAND SECURITY. AND AS TO WHY YOU HAVE TO MOVE ON FOR SAFETY REASONS IN THIS BUILDING.

YOU HAVE TO BE DONE WITH 1500 MARILLA STREET.

IT'S BIGGER THAN ME BECAUSE Y'ALL DID THINGS WITH THOSE CONTRACTS BEFORE THEY WENT TO FORT WORTH AND GOT FORMER POLICE CHIEF JOEL FITZGERALD FIRED. THOSE PEOPLE WERE RIGHT THERE IN THE FLAG ROOM SPEAKING ABOUT BEING VIOLATED ABOUT THOSE CONTRACTS THAT HAPPENED HERE.

SO LISTEN TO ME. WHY ARE YOU ACTING CONFUSED AND SAYING THAT I'M NOT ON TOPIC AND YOU DONE TOOK A MINUTE AWAY FROM MY TIME.

THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. I THINK IT WAS. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST ASKED, WAS IT ABOUT SAFETY FROM MOVING FROM THIS BUILDING? AND IT'S SOLELY ABOUT SAFETY FOR YOU, THE EMPLOYEES HERE IN THE OFFICERS WHO HAVE TO PROTECT YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SAVE PEOPLE FROM THEMSELVES.

NOW, CITY MANAGER TOLBERT AND CITY ATTORNEY PALOMINO, THEY KNOW MORE THAN YOU KNOW.

THEY SHOULD. THEY START. THEY SHOULD START COMMUNICATING WITH YOU MORE.

THIS IS HUGE. IT'S BIG. IT'S ABOUT FALSIFYING RECORDS, FABRICATED POLICE REPORTS.

THAT'S YOUR TIME WORKING RIGHT HERE FROM IN THIS BUILDING AGAINST WHITE PEOPLE, BLACK PEOPLE, BROWN, POOR AND WEALTHY. DON'T BLAME ME. SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE FIVE INDIVIDUALS HAVE SIGNED UP ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM TWO.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SAM WILLIAMS, BARRETT JOHNSTON, GREG O'DONNELL, JERMAINE O'DONNELL AND NORA SOTO. SAM WILLIAMS VIRTUAL.

IT'S NOT ONLINE. BARRETT. JOHNSTON. YES. I'M HERE.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BARRETT JOHNSTON AND I'M A DALLAS RESIDENT.

TODAY YOU'RE VOTING TO AMEND A HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT, FEDERAL PREPAREDNESS FUNDING ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE VERY GOVERNOR'S OFFICE THAT IS THREATENING TO STRIP $87.2 MILLION FROM THIS CITY UNLESS YOU GOT A LOCALLY DETERMINED POLICING POLICY.

THAT IS THE CONTEXT OF EVERY VOTE YOU TAKE TODAY.

GOVERNOR ABBOTT IS USING PUBLIC SAFETY MONEY AS A POLITICAL WEAPON.

DPD GENERAL ORDER 315.04 PROTECTS VICTIMS AND WITNESSES, UPHOLDS FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND WAS ACCEPTED BY THE STATE ITSELF JUST ONE YEAR AGO, THREATENING TO DEFUND DALLAS POLICE, WHICH IS ILLEGAL TO EVEN SUGGEST IN THIS STATE IN THE NAME OF PUBLIC SAFETY, IS A CONTRADICTION THAT INSULTS EVERY RESIDENT IN THIS ROOM.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE MAYOR DIRECTLY, SINCE THAT'S THE ONLY PERSON WE'RE ALLOWED TO ADDRESS DIRECTLY IN THIS ROOM.

MR. MAYOR, YOU COULD CHOOSE TO BE LIKE ANOTHER MAYOR JOHNSON.

BRANDON JOHNSON, MAYOR OF CHICAGO, WHO SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER MAKING CHICAGO THE FIRST CITY IN THE NATION TO PURSUE LEGAL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AGENTS.

LET ME KNOW WHAT AGENDA ITEM YOU'RE SPEAKING ON. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE YOUR TIME. WHAT AGENDA ITEM ARE YOU SPEAKING ON? AGENDA ITEM TWO, SIR. HIS MODEL HAS SINCE SPREAD TO SEATTLE, LOS ANGELES, MINNEAPOLIS, AND BEYOND THAT, MAYOR JOHNSON CHOSE TO DEFEND HIS RESIDENCE.

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YOU CALLED THE $25 MILLION ICE OFFER A POTENTIAL FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO THE CITY, WHILE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND 80 RESIDENTS AT THAT MEETING SAID IT WOULD BETRAY COMMUNITY TRUST. AND WHEN ABBOTT ISSUED THE ULTIMATUM LAST WEEK, YOUR OFFICE ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING DALLAS WOULD COMPLY.

NO PUSHBACK. NO DEFENSE OF THE POLICY. DALLAS OWN POLICE ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS.

YOU ARE NOT A FRIEND TO THE WORKING CLASS. YOU ARE NOT A FRIEND TO OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS.

BUT YOU ARE A GREAT FRIEND TO GREG ABBOTT, KEN PAXTON, AND DONALD TRUMP.

BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER, I GUESS. DALLAS DESERVES A MAYOR WHO FIGHTS FOR IT.

SO SINCE OURS IS TOO SCARED OR MAYBE TOO APATHETIC, MY PLEA IS TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

DON'T COMPLY. NOW IS THE TIME TO SHOW US YOUR COURAGE AND THAT YOU STAND WITH THIS CITY AND NOT WITH THOSE WHO THREATEN IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GREG O'DONNELL.

HI, MY NAME IS GREG O'DONNELL. I'M A 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 11, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO ADOPT LEGISLATION, AS OTHER SPEAKERS HAVE ASKED, TO STOP DPD FROM BEING CONTROLLED BY ICE.

IN MY OPINION, ICE IS NOT JUST IMMORAL, BUT THEY'RE DOING THINGS THAT ARE ILLEGAL, DENYING PEOPLE DUE PROCESS.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE DPD SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO ANY FUTURE LITIGATION FROM THESE CRIMES.

DPD HAS AN ENORMOUS AND DIFFICULT JOB. THEY DON'T NEED ANY OTHER DISTRACTION.

THAT IS ACTUALLY A, YOU KNOW, DOING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S WORK.

SECONDLY, I THINK THE RESIDENTS OF TEXAS, WE PAY SALES TAX AND PROPERTY TAXES.

THAT'S TO BE USED FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS STATE.

AND OUR GOVERNOR. AND HIS ADMINISTRATION'S TRYING TO USE THAT MONEY AS A POLITICAL WEAPON TO HELP THE FEW, BUT NOT THE GREATER GOOD OF ALL OF US. AND I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THAT.

AND I ASK THE COUNCIL TO VOTE AGAINST ANY TYPE OF GRAB OF OVERREACH BY THE STATE GOVERNMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GERMANE. O'DONNELL.

NORA SOTO.

MY NAME IS NORA SOTO, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE ABBOTT THREAT AND URGE CITY COUNCIL TO PUSH BACK.

MAYOR JOHNSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH, SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

YOU'RE USUALLY NOT. ABBOTT HAS. MY BAD. IT TURNED OFF ABBOTT'S THREATS IS VERY CLEARLY A RACIST, REACTIONARY THREAT, NOT ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AT ALL.

LET ME REMIND YOU GUYS ABOUT THE LAST TIME HE INTERVENED WITH OUR BUDGET, WHICH WAS IN 2021 WITH HB 1900, WHERE HE MADE IT ILLEGAL FOR US TO DEFUND POLICE.

AND THAT IS A HUGE REASON WHY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET IS SO BLOATED RIGHT NOW, AND WHY WE'RE HAVING SUCH A BUDGET CRISIS RIGHT NOW.

OUR BUDGET CANNOT TAKE ANY MORE HITS FROM ANY OTHER CUTS.

IF YOU NEED TO DO SO TO PUSH BACK AGAINST ABBOTT, YOU DO NEED TO DO IT.

TAKING THE MONEY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. BUT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE FUNDS, MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE MONEY IS OUR MORAL COMPASS AS A CITY.

DPD IS ALREADY VIEWED BY RESIDENTS AS A THREAT TO THEIR SAFETY IN GENERAL, BUT EVEN MORE SO IF YOU ARE A PERSON OF COLOR.

IF THE CITY GOVERNMENT DECIDES TO FALL TO THE STATE THREAT, YOU CAN BE SURE THAT THESE COMMUNITIES WILL RETREAT FURTHER AWAY FROM COOPERATING WITH POLICE. IF YOU CARE ABOUT RESIDENTS SAFETY AND KEEPING THE CITY A PLACE WHERE IMMIGRANTS CAN LAND, PUT DOWN ROOTS AND CONTRIBUTE SO MUCH TO OUR SOCIETY, YOU NEED TO REJECT ABBOTT'S RACIST, REACTIONARY ACTION. AND FOR THE TEMCO EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HERE TO INTIMIDATE OUR WEST DALLAS ACTIVISTS.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY NOT INTIMIDATING AT ALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JERMAINE O'DONNELL NOT PRESENT.

I'LL MOVE FORWARD. YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM SEVEN.

HONORABLE PHILIP KINGSTON. MR. KINGSTON, IT'S NOT ONLINE AND NOT IN THE AUDIENCE.

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TEN. WE WIN. WE WIN IS NOT PRESENT. AGENDA ITEM 11 SOPHIA MORGAN. I BELIEVE MISS MORGAN IS VIRTUAL.

HI THERE. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M HERE REPRESENTING UPTOWN DALLAS AND JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR RENEWAL.

THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM 18. YOU HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, DOUGLAS TAYLOR.

I'M SORRY. I HAD TO GO TO THE LADIES ROOM AND I MISSED MY TIME.

JERMAINE O'DONNELL. IS IT POSSIBLE? OKAY. OKAY.

GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M SORRY.

AND I'LL BE UNDER TWO MINUTES. MY NAME IS JERMAINE O'DONNELL.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT 11. I'M REPRESENTED BY BILL ROTH.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SPOKEN AT A DALLAS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR AND THE POLICE CHIEF TO REJECT THE 287 G PROGRAM.

DHS AND ICE ARE OUTRAGEOUSLY WELL FUNDED AND SHOULDN'T NEED THE DPD'S HELP IN REMOVING AND DETAINING DALLAS CITIZENS.

THIS WOULD ONLY STRAIN DPD'S LIMITED RESOURCES AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT EFFORTS TO REDUCE 911 RESPONSE TIMES.

AT THE MOMENT, THE DPD IS STILL SHORT. THE 7 TO 800 OFFICERS NEEDED TO MEET THE VOTER MANDATED MINIMUM OF 4000 OFFICERS AND DO NOT HAVE THE TIME OR RESOURCES TO DO SOMEONE ELSE'S SO-CALLED JOB. UNJUSTIFIED ARREST QUOTAS SET BY ICE WILL ALSO LEAD TO RACIAL PROFILING, THREATENING THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE ENTIRE DALLAS COMMUNITY.

NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO ERODE THE TRUST AND RESPECT DPD HAS WORKED SO HARD TO BUILD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY THAT I MISSED. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. DOUGLAS TAYLOR.

MAYOR JOHNSON CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DOUG TAYLOR.

I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE IN NORTH OAK CLIFF.

AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF AGENDA ITEM 18 FOR ENGINEERING DESIGN SERVICES IN SUPPORT OF THE DALLAS VISION ZERO PLAN.

IN RECENT YEARS, WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS CRASHES AT THE INTERSECTION OF SILVER, SYLVAN, TYLER AND COLORADO THAT HAVE RESULTED IN SERIOUS INJURIES AND, UNFORTUNATELY, A FATALITY. THIS PAST WEEK, WE'VE EVEN HAD A CRASH.

IT WAS A HEAD ON CRASH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION, AND WE HAD A CRASH ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION THAT TOOK OUT A STREET LIGHT.

RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DANGERS OF HIGH SPEED TRAFFIC ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.

SYLVAN AND TYLER, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOES PAST A NUMBER OF PARKS.

SO IS A HIGH PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AREA. UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE HAD CARS LITERALLY GO INTO THE AIR.

ONE CAR WOUND UP IN A PERSON'S FRONT YARD AFTER VAULTING ACROSS THE INTERSECTION AND LANDING ATOP A SIX FOOT HIGH RETAINING WALL. WE HAD ANOTHER ONE THAT HAS BEEN IN THE VIDEO NEWS AND UNFORTUNATELY INVOLVED A TRAFFIC CIRCLE THAT WE HAD PUT IN THAT PROCEEDED TO GO THROUGH THE AIR, CRASH INTO A BUILDING AND CATCH FIRE.

SO WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS WHOLE AREA, BUT IN PARTICULAR, THIS PARTICULAR TRAFFIC SITUATION AT THE INTERSECTION PLEASE APPROVE THIS ENGINEERING CONTRACT. AND THAT WAY WE CAN START DESIGN WORK AND GET THE PEANUT ROUNDABOUT, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S PREFERRED SOLUTION IMPLEMENTED.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE TRAFFIC CORRIDOR STUDY, SO WE ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES OF SPEEDING VEHICLES UP AND DOWN THE SYLVAN TYLER CORRIDOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

TIFFANY HICKS.

GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

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I'M HERE IN SUPPORT TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER 18 ON THE AGENDA TO AUTHORIZE A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING FIRM TO REDESIGN THE DEADLY INTERSECTION OF SYLVAN AND COLORADO. IN ADDITION TO WEEKLY CRASHES, THERE WAS A FATALITY CRASH AT THIS INTERSECTION, AND A 28 YEAR OLD MAN LOST HIS LIFE. THIS INTERSECTION HAS ANTIQUATED DESIGNS AND IT MUST BE UPDATED FOR TODAY'S COMMUNITY.

THE CONTINUOUS DEVELOPMENT IN NORTH OAK CLIFF AND THE ENTERTAINMENT DRAW OF THE BISHOP ARTS DISTRICT.

THIS INTERSECTION MUST BE DESIGNED FOR THAT. IT HAS EXTREME ANGLES, DANGEROUS CURVES, DRAMATIC ELEVATION CHANGES, AND SPEEDING. THERE ARE TERRIFYING HEAD ON COLLISIONS.

PROPERTY DAMAGE CRASHES INTO LIGHT POLES AND AN ELECTRIC POLES AND IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS.

PLEASE VOTE YES ON AGENDA ITEM 18 TO REDESIGN THIS INTERSECTION AT SYLVAN AND COLORADO IN NORTH OAK CLIFF.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

I WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 37.

AGENDA ITEM SIX WAS CORRECTED AND HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM SEVEN HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

AGENDA ITEM 12 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN BAZALDUA AND ROTH.

AGENDA ITEM 13 WAS DELETED. AGENDA ITEM 14 WAS DELETED.

AGENDA ITEM 19 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN.

AGENDA ITEM 20 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH AGENDA ITEM 21 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, MENDELSOHN, BAZALDUA AND COUNCIL MEMBER. ROTH.

AGENDA ITEM 25 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH AND AGENDA ITEM 26 WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT AGENDA ITEM 18 IS BEING.

THERE'S A CLARIFICATION. IT'S CLARIFYING TO REMOVE LANGUAGE SUBJECT TO ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS.

THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH FIVE, EIGHT THROUGH 11, 15 THROUGH 18, 22 THROUGH 24 AND 27 THROUGH 37. ALL RIGHT.

I HEARD A MOTION IN A SECOND AND I SEE CHAIRMAN WEST IN THE QUEUE FIRST.

SO YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON CONSENT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR SPEAK ON TWO ITEMS TODAY. THE FIRST IS THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON HALPRIN PARKS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, WHICH, IF APPROVED, THIS WILL SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CREATION OF THE PIT.

HALPERIN PARK IS SET TO OPEN IN JUST A FEW WEEKS, BRINGING LONG OVERDUE INVESTMENT, GREEN SPACE AND CONNECTIVITY TO NORTH OAK CLIFF.

LIKE WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER OTHER SUCCESSFUL PITS ACROSS THE CITY, A PIT CAN HELP WITH ENHANCED SAFETY AND SECURITY TO THE PARK, KEEPING VISITORS AND NEARBY RESIDENTS SAFE. APRIL ALLEN AND ANN HAGAN FROM HALPERIN PARK TEAM HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB MAKING THIS DREAM A REALITY.

AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PIT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT WAY TO MAKE SURE THE CITY DOES OUR PART TO ENSURE THE PARK IS SUCCESSFUL.

THE SECOND ITEM I WANT TO SPEAK ON IS ITEM 18.

AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM DOUG TAYLOR AND TIFFANY HICKS FROM KESSLER PARK THIS MORNING.

AND WE'VE HEARD FROM HUNDREDS OF OTHER NEIGHBORS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

WE HAVE TWO VERY IMPORTANT PROJECTS IN DISTRICT ONE TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE DRIVING, CYCLING AND WALKING AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE FIRST IS THE SYLVAN TYLER, COLORADO ROUNDABOUT.

ENGINEERING DESIGN THIS VISION ZERO PROJECT IS FUNDED BY OVER $4 MILLION IN 2024.

BOND FUNDS TO REDESIGN A NOT JUST DANGEROUS BUT DEADLY INTERSECTION WHERE WE'VE HAD TRAFFIC COLLISIONS ALMOST EVERY MONTH FOR YEARS.

THE PEANUT SHAPED, PEANUT SHAPED ROUNDABOUT WILL BE THE FIRST IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND WE ARE EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO INNOVATE AND LEAD WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC SAFETY IN DISTRICT ONE, THANKS TO THE MANY DISTRICT ONE RESIDENTS WHO WHO HAVE VOTED FOR THIS OPTION IN THE BOND PROGRAM.

THE SECOND RELATED PROJECT IS THE TYLER SYLVAN TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND THANK YOU TO GUS AND CARLY AND HIS TEAM FOR TEEING THIS UP.

AND THIS WILL STUDY THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR FROM INTERSTATE 30 DOWN TO 10TH STREET, WHERE TYLER SYLVAN PASSES THROUGH COOMBS CREEK TRAIL.

RESIDENTIAL STREETS, BUSY PEDESTRIAN RETAIL AREAS, A SENIOR HOME AND A SCHOOL.

WE'VE UNFORTUNATELY SEEN CONTINUED ISSUES ALONG THIS CORRIDOR AND I WANT TO THANK TAYLOR SMITH FROM TYPO HOMES,

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THANK YOU, MISS BLAIR. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON CONSENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE STATE REPRESENTATIVE.

I'M SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, IN WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE STATE REPRESENTATIVE TONY ROSE, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE AND THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND FOR THE CONTINUED DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT TO IMPROVING PARKS ACCESS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT EIGHT.

THE JUDGE, CHARLES ROSE PARK IS A 40 ACRE PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED AND DEVELOPED THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND. IT IS A GIFT TO AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY AND A PLACE FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER.

THE PHASE ONE WAS OPENED TO THE PUBLIC JUNE 7TH, 2025 AND INCLUDES A PLAYGROUND, PICNIC AREA, OUTDOOR CLASSROOM AND A TRAIL WITHIN THE PARK.

THE $5 MILLION AWARD FUNDING AWARD IS FOR THE CONTINUED EXPANSION OF THE CHARLES ROSE PARK, AND IT WILL HELP NEW AMENITIES COME TO AN AREA OF DALLAS THAT'S UNDERSERVED, HAS NO CONNECTING TRAILS, AND PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY FOR TO BETTER OUR HEALTH.

I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK STATE REP TONY ROSE FOR THIS GIFT AND ALL SHE HAS DONE AND CONTINUES TO DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS BLACKMON, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND TODAY'S AGENDA INCLUDES A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE FOR EAST DALLAS.

AND ITEM NUMBER 30. AUTHORIZE A ONE YEAR SERVICE CONTRACT FOR A MULTI-MODAL AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY STUDY.

FOCUSING ON THE GARLAND ROAD CORRIDOR IN DISTRICT NINE AND PART OF DISTRICT TWO.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH.

THIS INITIATIVE BUILDS UPON THE 2010 GARLAND ROAD VISION STUDY THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH BY COUNCILMAN GRIFFITH, WHICH ESTABLISHED A FRAMEWORK FOR ENHANCING THE CORRIDOR'S OPERATIONAL FUNCTION AND ESTHETIC CHARACTER.

HOWEVER, IN THE 16 YEARS SINCE, OUR PLANNING LANDSCAPE HAS EVOLVED WITH THE ADOPTION OF FORWARD DALLAS 2.0, THE BIKE PLAN, AND THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO VISION ZERO.

ALONGSIDE RECENT LEGISLATIVE CHANGES AT THE STATE LEVEL, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE MODERNIZE OUR APPROACH.

GARLAND ROAD NEXT GENERATION PLANNING WILL ALIGN LAND USE, MOBILITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH OUR MODERN CITY STANDARDS.

OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THE CORRIDOR'S LONG TERM INFRASTRUCTURE MEETS BOTH CURRENT AND FUTURE NEEDS PRIORITIZING WALKABILITY, BIKEABILITY HOUSING, SMALL BUSINESS GROWTH AND OVERALL SAFETY.

UPON APPROVAL, THE. THAT WE WILL EMBARK ON A YEAR LONG STUDY GUIDED BY AN ADVISORY BOARD MADE UP OF COMMUNITY, BUSINESS AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS. THIS BOARD WILL ENSURE THE PROJECT REMAINS ROOTED IN THE ASPIRATIONS OF THOSE WHO LIVE, LIVE AND WORK AROUND GARLAND ROAD. FURTHERMORE, AMPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR.

FOR PUBLIC INPUT THROUGHOUT THE SERIES OF MEETINGS BETWEEN THE CONSULTANT ADVISORY BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY WILL HAPPEN.

THIS. THIS HUD GRANT WAS SECURED BY A 24 FEDERAL FUNDING BY A FEDERAL FUNDING BUDGET ITEM BY CONGRESSMAN, FORMER CONGRESSMAN COLIN ALLRED. AND I WANT TO SEND MY SINCERE THANKS TO HIM AND HIS OFFICE FOR SECURING THIS INVESTMENT.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, AND ECO DEV FOR THEIR DILIGENCE IN MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE LEGACY ADVISORY MEMBERS FROM THE 2010 STUDY, WHO CONTINUE TO SERVE GERRY WORRELL AND GLORIA TARPLEY, ALONG WITH NEW ADVISORY BOARD CO-CHAIRS LEW SIMMONS AND BRAD GHRIST.

THEIR LONG TERM DEDICATION TO THIS PROJECT IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH OF OUR EAST DALLAS COMMUNITY.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS COLLABORATIVE PROCESS AS WE REIMAGINE GARLAND ROAD AS A MORE CONNECTED, ACCESSIBLE AND VIBRANT CORRIDOR FOR ALL OF EAST DALLAS RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU, MR. BAZALDUA. RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ITEM FOUR.

LAST MONTH WE HAD A BIG WIN FOR OR MAYBE IT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO, A BIG WIN FOR THE FAIR PARK COMMUNITY PARK.

AND WE ARE APPROVING THE GRANT FROM THE STATE THAT I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO STATE REPRESENTATIVE VINTON JONES FOR THIS $3 MILLION GIFT FOR THE COMMUNITY PARK. AND THIS IS JUST ONE STEP CLOSER TO SEEING THE PARK ACTUALLY HERE TO FRUITION.

SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. CONSENT AGENDA IS ADOPTED. MADAM SECRETARY, NEXT ITEM PLEASE. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. BEFORE I GO TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ITEM, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON AGENDA ITEM 21.

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MAYOR, I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL JUNE 10TH, 2026.

IT'S BEEN SECONDED. THAT WAS SECOND. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN WEST? QUICKLY. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS WAS A REQUEST BY STAFF TO DEAL WITH A CONTRACTING ISSUE.

SO IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS BY MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE DEFERRAL, I DEFER TO CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER? I SEE MR. BAZALDUA FIRST. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION TO DEFER. AND I DO PLAN ON GETTING SOME MORE CLARIFICATION.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE ON WHAT THE DEFERRAL IS NEEDED FOR, BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE.

THE REASON THAT WE'RE STILL SPENDING 2006 BOND FUNDS AND WHAT EXERCISE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

I'M SORRY. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

GO AHEAD. I'M JUST. GO AHEAD. KEEP GOING. OKAY.

I, I WAS WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT YOU WERE ACTUALLY SPEAKING ON THE DEFERRAL ITSELF OR SOMETHING RELATED TO IT.

WELL, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY CORRELATION.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING IF THERE CAN BE CLARIFICATION ON WHY THIS WOULD BE REQUESTED FROM STAFF, BECAUSE I DID WANT TO GO INTO MORE QUESTIONS ON THE FUNDING SOURCE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. IT IS A CONTRACTUAL PIECE THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH. WE IDENTIFIED SOME ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS OF THAT LAST NIGHT, AND SO IT WAS REQUESTED BY STAFF. I'M SURE THAT JENNY CAN GIVE YOU BASED ON JUST THE QUESTION THE SHORT ANSWER, BUT THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS THAT WE NEED TO GO AND WORK THROUGH, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR TODAY THE DEFERRAL.

HI, JENNY. NICE ONE WITH THE BOND OFFICE. AND THE CITY MANAGER IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

SO WE DID IDENTIFY SOME CONTRACTUAL ELEMENTS THAT WE JUST NEED TO WORK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE DEFERRAL.

OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH YOU TO GET SOME OTHER QUESTIONS ANSWERED ABOUT THE FUNDING SOURCE AND WHAT WOULD BE CHANGED FROM NOW UNTIL THEN.

ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND, AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. WE DO WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO I THINK WE HAD SUBMITTED A MEMORANDUM THAT WENT TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

I THINK WE DO NEED TO SPEND SOME MORE TIME TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT THE ITEM.

ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 2006 BOND DOLLARS THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO ANY MEETINGS QUESTIONS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN? WE WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO DO THAT AND WE'LL TAKE YOU UP ON THAT OFFER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO DEFER.

THANK YOU. ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, ACTUALLY, I DON'T RECALL EVER HAVING HAD A BRIEFING ON THIS LOCATION.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REQUEST THAT BE A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THE SERVICE CENTER ON THE SOUTHEAST SERVICE CENTER.

I'M GOING TO GO PAY A VISIT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO WITH, WE'LL HAVE A NICE LITTLE FIELD TRIP.

BUT I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONCERNING ITEMS AND A HOST OF QUESTIONS.

SO WHILE YOU COULD MEET WITH PEOPLE ONE ON ONE, I THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY APPROVED MONEY 20 YEARS AGO THAT HASN'T BEEN SPENT FOR A FACILITY AT THAT TIME DEEMED TO NEED REPLACEMENT.

PLUS, THEY DID SPEND SOME OF THE MONEY UP TO 90% DESIGN THAT NEVER WENT FORWARD.

SO TO REDO THAT ALL AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

AND SO AGAIN, I WOULD REQUEST THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING ON THIS BEFORE IT COMES FOR A VOTE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT, COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLETON.

AND WE CAN DEFINITELY PLAN TO DO THAT BEFORE THE JUNE DISCUSSION.

I THINK THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK IT WAS INCLUDED IN SOME OF OUR PREVIOUS COMMUNICATION THROUGH THE MEMO, IS THAT OUR RECORDS AND WHAT WE'RE SHOWING IS ONLY GOING BACK SO FAR.

SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT DID NOT HAPPEN, THE CURRENT STAFF, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THOSE ANSWERS, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY PULL ALL THE PIECES OF THIS PROJECT THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN FIND IN ALL OF OUR RECORDS, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ANSWER AS MANY QUESTIONS AS WE CAN, INCLUDING DELAYS, THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY WHAT MIGHT HAVE CAUSED THOSE.

SO WE DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM BRINGING IT TO A FULL CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSION, IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU CITY MANAGER. I DID HAVE A STAFF MEMBER YESTERDAY TELL ME THAT HE HAS BEEN THE ADVOCATE FOR THIS FOR DECADES, AND SO PERHAPS HE HAS ALL THOSE RECORDS. AND BEFORE HE LEAVES, IT MAY BE WISE TO GET THEM FROM HIM.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER BY CHAIRMAN WEST? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA.

[6. 26-1281A Consider approval of the designation of designating the FIFA World Cup 2026 from June 10, 2026 through July 19, 2026, as an officially recognized City of Dallas Special Event from June 10, 2026 through July 19, 2026 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City]

CONSIDER APPROVAL DESIGNATING THE FIFA WORLD CUP 2026 AS AN OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED CITY OF DALLAS SPECIAL EVENT FROM

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MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN YOU PULLED IT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES? YES. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. AGENDA ITEM SIX. THANK YOU. I HAVE A STAFF QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING.

AND WHERE THOSE FEES GO TO. AND THAT'S BOTH FOR THE ACTUAL ON FAIR PARK AND THE SURROUNDING FAIR PARK.

ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

SO THE PARKING FEES ARE A COMBINATION OF WE PERMIT IF THIS IS PASSED IN THE COMMENCEMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND THEN THE FEE COLLECTION ETC. WOULD GO THROUGH TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS.

ROSA MISS FLEMING, WILL YOU REPEAT THE LAST PART OF THAT INTO THE MIC, PLEASE? I DON'T THINK WE HEARD THE LATTER PART OF YOUR ANSWER.

OH, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. THANK YOU. SO THE PERMITTING, IF THIS ITEM PASSES, WOULD GO THROUGH CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES AS A SPECIAL EVENT PARKING CONSIDERATION AND THE FEES WOULD GO ANY PARKING FEES ASSESSED WOULD GO THROUGH TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS OR THROUGH. THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT, TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS.

SO ANY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PERMITS WILL GO INTO THE GENERAL FUNDS.

SO I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.

BUT TO PARK ACTUALLY AT FAIR PARK, WHERE DO THOSE DOLLARS GO? AND IS THERE GOING TO BE A CHARGE DURING FEE? FOR SURE, I WILL HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO PARK AND RECREATION.

WE'LL GO IN THE BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S A REPRESENTATIVE THERE.

APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR. PLEASE STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER.

I DON'T BELIEVE THIS ITEM IS ADDRESSING THE PARKING ON THE GROUNDS OF FAIR PARK.

THIS IS THE ORDINANCE FOR THE CROWN PARKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTIES ON THE OUTSIDE.

OKAY. I KNOW, BUT I STILL WANT TO KNOW THAT ANSWER.

OKAY. NOT NOT NOT HERE. NOW, IF PARKS AND RECREATION IS NOT AVAILABLE WE'LL MAKE SURE COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSOHN THAT YOU GET THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. WELL, I MEAN, IT'S NOT I. OKAY. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO RESPECT THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND ALL THE LAWS OF THE STATE THAT GOVERN WHAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND WHAT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT.

THAT HASN'T BEEN AGENDIZED. AND THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.

SO THE ITEM IS ACTUALLY SAYS FAIR PARK PARKING AREA.

YEAH. I'VE YEAH, I'VE ALREADY SUSTAINED THE THE POINT OF ORDER.

SO CAN WE GET A DEFINITION OF WHAT FAIR PARK PARKING AREA MEANS? SO TYPICALLY IN THAT THAT IS REFERRING TO THE AREA AS COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA REFLECTED IS WHAT'S CALLED A CROWN ORDINANCE.

IT IS THE AREA OUTSIDE OF FAIR PARK. THAT'S. THAT'S CHAPTER 32-22. IN THE CODE, IT'S WHERE LANDOWNERS ARE ALLOWED TO USE THEIR LAND TO PARK CARS ON CERTAIN PARKING LOTS.

YOU SEE IT A LOT DURING THE STATE FAIR, WHERE THEY'RE USING THE VARIOUS PARKING LOTS AND SOME OF THEIR OWN PROPERTY TO PARK CARS.

AND DOES THAT HAPPEN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. THIS IS THIS ORDINANCE IS VERY SPECIFIC TO THAT AREA.

AND FOR THAT FOR THE THAT SPECIAL EVENT. MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT.

THANK YOU. IS THERE IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM SIX.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. MADAM SECRETARY, NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT ITEM WILL BE AGENDA ITEM 12.

WE WILL HOLD SEVEN. I'M. YEAH, I'M. I'M TAKING.

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SO I'M HOLDING THAT FOR JUST A SECOND, JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. ALRIGHT. GO AHEAD. AGENDA ITEM 12 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 17 FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS OF THE

[12. 26-1280A An ordinance amending Chapter 17, “Food Establishments,” of the Dallas City Code by (1) amending Section 17-1.6 and Chapter 50, “Consumer Affairs,” of the Dallas City Code; (2) amending Sections 50-152, 50-157, 50-158, 50-160, and 50-162; (3) adding new Sections 50-167.1 and 50-173; (4) providing requirements for serving or distributing food on public or private property; (5) providing a penalty not to exceed $500.00; (6) providing a saving clause; (7) providing a severability clause; and (8) providing an effective date - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information)]

TWO AMENDING SECTIONS 51, 52, 51, 57, 51, 58, 51, 60, AND 51, 62. THREE ADDING NEW SECTIONS 51, 67.1 AND 5173 PROVIDING REQUIREMENTS FOR SERVING OR DISTRIBUTING FOOD ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY FIVE.

PROVIDING A PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $500. SIX PROVIDING A SAVING CLAUSE SEVEN PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND EIGHT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. YOU DO HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

EVA MASON IS NOT ONLINE. IS EVA MASON IN THE AUDIENCE? IT'S NOT PRESENT. JOSE AVILA. JOSE AVILA.

YOUR MICROPHONE. THERE'S A BUTTON AT THE BASE.

NO, THERE'S A PRESS THE BUTTON. OH, SORRY. TECHNOLOGY.

GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR. GOOD MORNING. COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JOSE AVILA. MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE IN ONE OF THE TOWNHOMES OVER TWO BLOCKS FROM HERE IN THE FARMERS MARKET AREA. I'M HERE THIS MORNING IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 12, THE PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT REGARDING THE SERVICE AND DISTRIBUTION OF FREE FOOD IN PUBLIC SPACES. LIKE I MENTIONED, I LIVE A FEW BLOCKS FROM WHERE FREE FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS OCCURS MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I DO NOT QUESTION THE INTENTIONS OF THE ORGANIZATIONS BEHIND THESE EVENTS.

CHARITABLE WORK MATTERS. I STARTED MY CAREER HERE IN DALLAS.

I WORK FOR A NONPROFIT. WHEN I STARTED THAT, THAT CAREER PATH, I WORKED IN CRISIS.

AND A LOT OF THE SERVICES I PROVIDED, I PROVIDED TO FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS AT THE BRIDGE AND IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

SO I AM I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE POPULATION.

THAT SAID, GOOD INTENTIONS DO NOT ERASE REAL CONSEQUENCES.

AND THOSE CONSEQUENCES FALL SQUARELY ON THE RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITIES WHO LIVE HERE.

THESE DISTRIBUTIONS DRAW LARGE GATHERINGS OF INDIVIDUALS TO OUR SIDEWALKS, STREETS AND PUBLIC SPACES, OFTEN BLOCKING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND TRAFFIC FLOW.

FURTHERMORE, IT IS NOT JUST FOOD BEING DISTRIBUTED AT THESE EVENTS.

OUR COMMUNITY HAS OBSERVED THE DISTRIBUTION OF TENTS, CAMPING EQUIPMENT, TOILETRY AND HYGIENE ITEMS AND LITERATURE ALL HANDED OUT IN OUR PUBLIC SPACES. WHEN THESE ITEMS ARE LEFT BEHIND OR DISCARDED, THEY LITTER OUR STREETS, OUR PARKS, AND OUR SIDEWALKS. THEY BECOME CHOKING HAZARDS FOR OUR PETS AND FOR YOUNG CHILDREN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE FAMILIES THAT LIVE DOWNTOWN.

AND PERHAPS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT AND DISTURBING, THE DISTRIBUTION OF TENTS AND CAMPING GEAR DIRECTLY INCENTIVIZED PUBLIC CAMPING IN OUR PARKS, OUR SIDEWALKS, AND OUR ALLEYS. COMPOUNDING THE VERY CONDITIONS THAT MAKE THESE SITUATIONS DIFFICULT TO MANAGE.

WHAT THESE CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS DO NOT SEE IS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THEY LEAVE THE FOOD WASTE, THE TRASH, THE DISCARDED CONTAINERS. THEY DON'T DISAPPEAR WHEN THE EVENT ENDS, THEY MIGRATE INTO OUR PARKS, ONTO OUR DOORSTEPS, AND INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.

THEY BECOME PUBLIC HEALTH HAZARDS. THEY ATTRACT PESTS.

THEY COMPROMISE THE SANITATION OF SPACES THAT RESIDENTS, WORKERS AND VISITORS SHARE DAY TO DAY.

WHEN RESIDENTS RESPECTFULLY ASK SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS TO CLEAN UP OR REFRAIN FROM LEAVING WASTE ON OUR SIDEWALKS.

THE INTERACTIONS CAN BECOME TENSE AND AT TIMES THREATENING.

THIS IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL. THIS IS A REGULAR REALITY FOR PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY WANT TO LIVE SAFELY IN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS.

WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED IN ANY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR CITY.

WHY ARE THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE AND WORK DOWNTOWN EXPECTED TO DO SO? DOWNTOWN DALLAS RESIDENTS DESERVE THE SAME PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY SAFETY PROTECTIONS AS RESIDENTS ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY.

THIS ORDINANCE IS A STEP TOWARDS THAT. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT ITEM 12.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANTHONY. ANTHONY LOZANO COND IS NOT PRESENT. TIGER DAVIS. TIGER DAVIS.

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IT'S NOT VIRTUAL. IT'S MR. SINGLETON IN THE AUDIENCE.

OKAY. RODNEY SINGLETON IS NOT PRESENT. CHRISTOPHER WEISS.

SORRY. I WAS SITTING ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JOHNSON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER WEISS. I LIVE AT 1419 GRIFFIN STREET EAST AS A 25 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE CEDARS.

I SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION. FIRST, I WANT TO REITERATE SUPPORT FOR DOCTOR SUNNYSIDE AND THE POINTS THAT SHE MADE.

POINTS VERY WELL MADE IN REGARD TO THE FEEDING.

I HOPE THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN IMPROVING CONDITIONS FOR DALLAS CITIZENS COMING TO CANTON, CADIZ AND CORSICANA FOR FOOD AND ASSISTANCE ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY MORNINGS.

I SEE AND INTERACT WITH THEM ALMOST EVERY WEEKEND.

I APPLAUD THE WORK DONE BY GROUPS THAT COME DOWN EACH WEEKEND.

THEY EMBRACE AND THEY EMBODY THE GRACE AND KINDNESS.

I HOPE ALL EMBRACE. THAT SAID, THIS WORK CAN BE DONE SMARTER AND WITH MORE COMMUNITY INTEGRATION, THE LATTER OF WHICH I'LL ADDRESS AT THE END. NOT ALL GROUPS LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS THEY FIND IT.

WE SEE TRASH STRESSING FROM CANTON ALL THE WAY DOWN TO CORINTH EVERY WEEKEND.

ALSO, SAFETY IS NOT ADDRESSED AND THERE ARE SOMETIMES ALARMING INCIDENTS WHERE PEDESTRIANS ARE HIT OR HAVE COME TO CLOSE CALLS BECAUSE OF CROWDING.

THIS IS ALL HAPPENING TWO BLOCKS SOUTH OF CITY HALL.

THIS SHOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE IGNORING. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THE NEXT STEP.

AND THIS IS HAS BEEN. WE HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE BRIDGE AND OTHER PEER ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD IS TO REQUIRE OUTSIDE PROVIDERS TO PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE A BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN AND ADJACENT AREAS TO DISTRIBUTE FOOD ON PREMISE.

US. THE SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS CAN OFFER THEIR PARKING AS SAFE LOCATIONS OFF THE STREETS AND AWAY FROM TRAFFIC.

THEY HAVE DUMPSTERS, BATHROOMS AND SHOWERS THAT COULD BE USED FOR CITIZENS WHO VISIT.

THERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING CITIZENS INTO THE SERVICES WHEN THEY ARE ON SITE WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS, AND NONE OF THESE SERVICES EXIST ON THE STREETS BEHIND CITY HALL, NOR ON THE SIDEWALKS. AND SO WE HAVE UNSAFE CONDITIONS IN THOSE LOCATIONS.

THESE THINGS SHOULD BE OUR PRIMARY CONCERNS FOR THESE DALLAS CITIZENS. WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT SERVICES FOR DISADVANTAGED CITIZENS, AND THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON THEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH. IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS FOLLOWS. MOVE.

SECTION 17-1.65. MAYOR PRO TEM. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU RECOGNIZE.

I PULLED THE ITEM. I HEARD HIM FOR THE MOTION FIRST.

MOTION FOR APPROVAL. WAS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

NOW, YOU RECOGNIZED FIRST FOR DISCUSSION IF YOU PULLED IT.

YEAH. YES, SIR. MR. BAZALDUA RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS FOLLOWS.

MOVE. SECTION 17-1.65 TO CHAPTER 50. AND AMEND THE DEFINITION OF STREET VENDOR OR VENDOR TO INCLUDE THE SERVICE OR DISTRIBUTION OF FOOD OR DRINKS FREE OF CHARGE, ALONG WITH CORRESPONDING SEMANTIC CHANGES IN CHAPTER 50.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

WE'RE NOW ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE UNDERLYING MOTION, WHICH WAS, AS IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE AGENDA BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR.

I FIRST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO WE'VE HEARD TO COME AND SPEAK.

I WILL SAY JUST AS I SAID IT IN COMMITTEE, THAT THIS IS, AS PROPOSED, VERY PROBLEMATIC LANGUAGE.

I BELIEVE IT'S ONE THAT NOT ONLY STEPS ON CONSTITUTIONALITY AND ONES THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF CASE LAW TO SUPPORT THE EXPOSURE OUR CITY WOULD BE. ENTERING INTO LEGALLY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN ATTACK ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

THIS DOES NOT PROVIDE ANY EXEMPTIONS. IN FACT, IT REMOVES AN EXEMPTION IN THE LANGUAGE THAT THAT SPECIFIES WHAT COURTS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE RECOGNIZED AS A RELIGIOUS ACT, WHICH IS FEEDING THE POOR.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS GET TO A PROBLEM. WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT GETTING TO THE CUSP OF A PROBLEM.

THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE DOES NOT DO THAT. IN FACT, IT ADDS A BURDEN THAT I WOULD ARGUE IS NOT THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE BURDEN ON PRACTICING

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WITH THIS SAID, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING MORE THOUGHTFUL.

WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS NOT THOUGHTFUL.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS AN ATTEMPT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT WE'VE DONE SOMETHING AND WE AREN'T DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN PASSING ANOTHER ORDINANCE THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE HELD UP IN COURT. WE SHOULD BE BETTER THAN THAT.

WE SHOULD GOVERN BETTER THAN THAT. AND I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE CAN DO IS ACCOMPLISH WHAT IS MEANT TO ACCOMPLISH FROM THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT DOESN'T EXPOSE OURSELVES TO LEGAL RISK DOES NOT PUT AN UNDUE UNNECESSARY BURDEN ON OUR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND DOES NOT INTENTIONALLY TARGET MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION OF OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION IN THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE DOES.

AND I DO BELIEVE WE CAN GET TO THE TABLE WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, WITH THE VARIOUS STAFF DEPARTMENTS NEEDED, AND WE CAN COME UP WITH BETTER LANGUAGE THAT NOT ONLY WOULD PASS THE MUSTER LEGALLY, BUT ONE THAT WILL NOT INFRINGE ON PEOPLE'S RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, OR THOSE WHO ARE JUST SIMPLY TRYING TO LIVE AND NOURISH THEIR BODIES THAT LIVE ON OUR STREETS.

WITH THAT, I HOPE THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS SUPPORT THE SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL JUST TO DELAY THIS THE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO ACTUALLY GET TO A BETTER PLACE.

WE'VE HEARD FROM RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS OUR CITY ONCE THIS WAS REALLY FAST TRACKED THINGS DON'T USUALLY MOVE THAT FAST IN THE CITY. AND I THINK THAT FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, THEY WERE INTENTIONALLY LEFT OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION AND FEEL.

SO IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS AT SUCH A RAPID PACE.

SO CITY MANAGER, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF IF, IF, IF ANY STAFF COULD SPEAK TO OUR ABILITY TO PAUSE ON THE CORRECTIVE LANGUAGE MOVE FORWARD ON THE COMPLIANCE COMPONENT OF THIS ITEM AND OUR ABILITY TO GET TO THE TABLE AND WORK TOWARDS A BETTER SOLUTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION.

AND COMMENTS, MR. MAYOR, I CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK TO OUR PERSPECTIVE ON JUST MOVING FORWARD WITH THE MOVEMENT OF IT FROM CHAPTER 17 TO CHAPTER 50 AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND COME BACK.

WE COMMUNICATED LAST WEEK AS THIS WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE CITY COUNCIL BRIEFING, THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE ANY PROBLEMS PROCEEDING WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL.

AND THAT IS THE WILL FOR TODAY. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE THAT WE DID WORK WITH TO GET TO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY, THAT IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REENGAGE AND ANYONE THAT WE DID NOT COMMUNICATE WITH PREVIOUSLY, WE WELCOME THAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THROUGH THIS.

THIS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE, AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AMENDMENTS WILL TRULY BE EFFECTIVE IN HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CHALLENGE THAT MANY OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL THAT WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO TO ENSURE OUR RESIDENTS, THAT WE ARE TAKING NECESSARY STEPS AND USING ALL AVAILABLE RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE ACROSS THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS FOLLOWING THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL TODAY ON THIS MATTER.

THANK YOU. I WILL ALSO JUST SAY THAT THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME SPECIFIC AND TARGETED ADVOCACY AND OUTREACH, WHICH IS WHY WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM PEOPLE FROM MY DISTRICT OR OTHERS.

THIS IS NOT A DOWNTOWN OR A FARMER'S MARKET ISSUE.

THERE MAY BE A PROMINENCE OF THIS OCCURRING HERE, BUT THIS IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPLIED CITYWIDE AND IT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AS SUCH. WE HAVE STREET FEEDINGS IN DISTRICT SEVEN, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE STEW POTS NEW LOCATION AND THE AUSTIN STREET PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE. THIS IS NOT AN ANOMALY OR UNIQUE TO DISTRICT TWO.

THIS IS NOT AN ANOMALY OR UNIQUE TO THE CEDARS OR TO FARMERS MARKET.

THIS IS A CITYWIDE POLICY DISCUSSION AND IT SHOULD BE APPROACHED AS SUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. SO I HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I'M VERY UNCLEAR ABOUT ACTUALLY WHAT THE MOTION IS DOING.

AND I'M WONDERING IF THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN EXPLAIN IT JUST SO THAT I'M NOT USING UP MY TIME ASKING MR. BAZALDUA. SO. OKAY. WE'LL STOP YOUR TIME. REAL QUICK.

SO WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT BY MR. BAZALDUA, AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT HIS AMENDMENT DOES. RIGHT.

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CORRECT? OKAY. I'LL LET I'LL LET THE. NOW WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK ON YOUR TIME, BUT I'LL LET THE CITY ATTORNEY EXPLAIN THAT.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. AS I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION, IF YOU RECALL, WE TALKED ABOUT WE HAVE TO MOVE SECTION 17-1.65 OUT OF 17 BECAUSE 17 IS NOW GOVERNED BY STATE LAW.

AND IN THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CHANGES FROM THE LAST SESSION.

SO WHAT THIS MOTION DOES IS MOVES 1.65 OUT OF THAT CHAPTER AND IT MOVES IT INTO 50.

THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW IN 17, IT'S NOT MAKING ALL THE OTHER CHANGES THAT WERE PROPOSED IN THE DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT IS, IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. AND THEN THE OTHER MINOR CHANGE IS TO INCLUDE THE SERVICE OR DISTRIBUTION OF FOOD OR DRINK FREE OF CHARGE INTO THE STREET VENDOR OR DEFINITION. THAT'S THAT'S ALL IT DOES DOESN'T ADD ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE BEING PROPOSED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. IT DOES HELP. YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE A VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS JUST LAST WEEK, AND I'M VERY OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF THIS WHOLE THING.

AND THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT REASONS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION WE HAD LAST WEEK.

BUT NUMBER ONE, WHEN I ASKED STAFF FOR THE EVIDENCE OF A NEGATIVE HEALTH ISSUE, WHETHER IT WAS OUTBREAKS, THEY HAD NONE. AND THEY SAY THAT'S THE REASON FOR THIS ORDINANCE, THAT THE ENTIRE CHANGE WAS PREDICATED ON PUBLIC HEALTH.

BUT THEN THEY COULDN'T CITE A SINGLE INSTANCE OF A PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY VISITS TO THE E.R., ANYTHING AT ALL. SO THAT SEEMS NOT PLAUSIBLE TO ME.

NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE RELIGIOUS TENETS OF ALL MAJOR RELIGIONS COMMANDING PEOPLE TO FEED THE HUNGRY.

AND THIS IS A WAY TO DO THAT. AND WE SHOULD NOT BE RESTRICTING RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.

NUMBER THREE, IT'S OVERLY RESTRICTIVE AND UNNECESSARY.

ALL OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HEAR ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S LITTER PEOPLE BLOCKING STREETS, WE ALREADY HAVE ORDINANCES THAT DEAL WITH EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS. NUMBER FOUR IS THAT SOMETIMES MAKING THAT SANDWICH AND PASSING IT OUT IS THE START OF A PERSON BECOMING A HOMELESS ADVOCATE. IT'S A WAY FOR THEM TO MAKE A PERSONAL CONNECTION WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

THAT CAN BE TRANSFORMATIVE, TRANSFORMATIVE FOR BOTH THE GIVER AND THE RECEIVER.

AND MAYBE THAT'S THE THE NECESSARY STEP TO ENCOURAGE THAT PERSON TO ACCEPT SHELTER, TO ADVANCE THEIR OWN JOURNEY TOWARDS INDEPENDENCE.

AND IT'S NOT OUR PLACE TO TAKE THAT AWAY. SO I AM OPPOSED TO TRYING TO RESTRICT SOMETHING THAT IS CLEARLY, TO ME, A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT THAT A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS DON'T LIKE, AND WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB ENFORCING THE CODES WE ALREADY HAVE ON OUR BOOKS, WHICH ARE REASONABLE, BUT NOT TRY TO LIMIT SOMETHING THAT'S CLEARLY AN EXPRESSION OF FAITH AND COMPASSION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.

THE MOTION BEFORE US IS BASICALLY STATUS QUO.

IT'S DOING, DOING NOTHING. IT'S CHANGING FROM THE ORDINANCE FROM ONE CHAPTER TO ANOTHER.

I WANT TO THANK OUR NEIGHBORS THAT CAME OUT TODAY TO SPEAK WHO ARE IMPACTED NOT ONLY ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT BUT DAILY. THIS PROPOSAL BY STAFF. AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR DILIGENCE AND THEIR HARD WORK AND ENGAGING WITH THE PROVIDERS WHO HELP OUR, OUR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING INCLUDING HOUSING FORWARD THAT HAS SAID THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS IN COORDINATION WITH THEIR EFFORTS TO HELP COMBAT HOMELESSNESS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE ARE NOT GETTING FOOD BORNE ILLNESSES FROM FOODS THAT ARE NOT PREPARED IN A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN, OR FROM A PERSON THAT HAS A FOOD MANAGERS LICENSE.

THOSE ARE ALL CLASSES THAT THE CITY IS OFFERING FREE OF CHARGE.

THIS IS NOT A BURDEN TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DOING GOOD DEEDS AND TRYING TO HELP THOSE LESS FORTUNATE.

WHAT THIS IS DOING IS HELPING PREVENT ILLNESSES FROM BREAKING OUT.

IT'S ALSO LETTING OUR VERY LIMITED STAFF KNOW WHEN EVENTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT THERE IN COORDINATION TO HELP CLEAN UP THE

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AGAIN, THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT LIMIT THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO CONTINUE COMING DOWN DOWNTOWN OR ANY OTHER DISTRICT AND CONTINUING TO FEED, AND SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION BEFORE US.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. ROTH, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE THE AMENDMENT.

AND I WANT WANTED JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS CLARIFYING THAT WE'RE JUST TRANSFERRING THESE THE ORIGINAL PROVISIONS IN FROM 17 TO 50. THAT'S PART OF IT, NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, THAT WE'RE JUST AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF THE VENDOR.

ALL OF THESE OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS IN THIS AMENDMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THANK YOU.

I THE REASON I'M SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT IS WE DEFINITELY HAVE A PROBLEM IN STREET FEEDING.

THERE'S NOT A QUESTION THAT THE PROCESS THAT THE THAT THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STREET FEEDING SITUATION IS GETTING OUT OF HAND.

HOWEVER, THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED BY THIS ORDINANCE ARE NOT SUITABLE TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, IN MY OPINION. I THINK THAT THIS. THE PROPOSED CHANGES WERE WOULD PUNISH GOOD SAMARITANS, WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR AN ENFORCEABLE ORDINANCE IN A PRACTICAL MANNER, AND CREATES POTENTIAL FOR SOME LEGAL ISSUES TO THE CITY.

THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT CONSEQUENCE OF MAKING THE CHANGES THAT WERE DONE.

I THINK THAT AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER'S WILLINGNESS TO SIT DOWN AND CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION ON TRYING TO CRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT MIGHT BE SUITABLE, THAT MIGHT ADDRESS SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS. AND THAT WAY, THAT WAY, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON A PATH TO SOLVING THE ACTUAL FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IN A LEGAL PROPER COST EFFECTIVE AND THOUGHTFUL AND COMPASSIONATE WAY.

THANK YOU. MR. BLACKMON. RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. SO I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

CHRIS, CAN CAN WE GO UP 300 ZERO FEET? AND CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR? WHAT IS THE THE LIKE, WHAT ARE WE THIS, THIS, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? AND THIS ORDINANCE IS TO FIX THAT PROBLEM. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET.

YES, MA'AM. CHRIS. CHRIS CHRISTIAN, DIRECTOR OF CODE COMPLIANCE SERVICES, CITY OF DALLAS.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR FROM A 300 ZERO FOOT VIEW IS EXACTLY WHAT THE RESIDENTS CAME AND SPOKE ABOUT.

IT'S THE IT'S THE PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS THAT THAT THAT ARE STILL PRESENT AFTER THE FACT AFTER THESE FEEDINGS OCCUR, THEY'RE LARGE SCALE. AND THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT WE CAN RECEIVE NOTICE BEFORE OR AFTER.

SO WE DON'T EVEN ALWAYS KNOW ABOUT WHERE THESE FEEDINGS ARE TAKING PLACE OR WHO'S CONDUCTING THEM, OR HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING SERVED. THAT MAKES IT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO REGULATE THE FOOD, THE FOOD SERVICE. AND SO IN THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE CONDUCTED OVER CLOSE TO 800, WE FOUND THAT 59% OF THE TIME, TIME FOR TEMPERATURE CONTROL, FOR SAFETY FOODS WERE BEING SERVED.

THOSE FOODS ARE DANGEROUS WHEN THEY'RE NOT HELD IN HOT STORAGE OR COLD STORAGE, AS THEY SHOULD BE AND COULD PROPOSE COULD POSE IMMINENT HEALTH RISKS TO FOLKS, ESPECIALLY OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS. AND SO FOR US IN CODE COMPLIANCE, IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE. WHAT WE'RE CHARGED TO DO ALL THE TIME THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY IS WHY WE PROPOSE THIS, THESE RECOMMENDED CHANGES. WE WILL SUPPORT THE WILL OF THE BODY.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE, IF THAT'S YOUR DECISION.

BUT THIS THIS RECOMMENDATION WOULD ABSOLUTELY HELP US.

OKAY, SO BACK TO YOU SAID 59% HAS AS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT THAT STAT A LITTLE MORE AND MY, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS IT BECAUSE OF THE FEEDINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, 59, SIX, 59% ARE AT A CRITICAL OR IS THIS IN GENERAL.

SO SO THE 59% REPRESENTS THE TYPE OF FOOD THAT ARE BEING SERVED.

THIS IS NOT PREPACKAGED FOODS SUCH AS CHIPS OR CRACKERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

THESE ARE MEALS THAT HAVE BEEN PREPARED IN A HOME OR, YOU KNOW, PREPARED BY SOMEBODY, HANDS THAT HAVE HOT STORAGE REQUIREMENTS AND THEY HAVE COLD STORAGE REQUIREMENTS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY HAVE TO BE SERVED WITHIN FOUR HOURS OF PREPARATION.

OKAY. SO THESE ARE THE SAME GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS ON OUR SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.

CORRECT. OPERATIONS. WE GO OUT, WE INSPECT THOSE VENDORS.

WE INSPECT THAT FOOD AS WELL FOR OUR CONSUMERS WHO ARE PAYING FOR FOOD.

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DO WE HAVE ANY CASES LINKED TO THE FEEDINGS THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT THIS SITUATION IS BECOMING HARMFUL? SO WE DO NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T TRACK.

THAT WOULD BE PARKLAND HEALTH DATA. WE DON'T TRACK THAT. WE DON'T KNOW WHO HAS BECOME ILL FROM, YOU KNOW, FEEDING, SO TO SPEAK. BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PRESENTED AT COMMITTEE ARE ACCURATE.

48 MILLION SUFFER FROM FOOD BORNE FOODBORNE ILLNESS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

WE'RE THE NINTH LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY, SO YOU COULD AGGREGATE THAT DATA DOWN TO IT BEING A RISK FOR THESE TYPE OF FOODS BEING SERVED WITHOUT REGULATION. AND THAT THAT REALLY SPEARHEADS WHY WE'RE MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION OR WANT TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION.

BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON ONE TYPE OF SITUATION, THEN THERE SHOULD BE SOME DATA THAT SHOWS THAT THAT IS A PROBLEM AND NOT JUST AND TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONSUMING THE FOOD, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT IS HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, AS A RESULT OF THAT EXERCISE. IN OTHER WORDS, I THINK THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

WHAT HAPPENS POST AND, AND, AND POST FEEDING IS NOT, IS NOT REALLY THE SAME THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING AS WHAT'S HAPPENING AS THE, AS THE FOLKS ARE BEING FED, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. SO THERE'S THE FOOD SAFETY COMPONENT, AND THEN THERE'S THE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE RIGHT AFTER THE FACT.

AND SO THE DATA THAT THAT YOU'RE WISHING TO SEE AND YOU HOPE TO SEE TO MAKE THIS DECISION, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THE DATA THAT WE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO GET.

OKAY. CODE COMPLIANCE, SO TO SPEAK. BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, WE, WE FELT LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BE PROACTIVE AND NOT WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO BE FALLING DEAD IN OUR STREETS OR BECOMING GRAVELY ILL BEFORE WE MAKE A MOVE.

WE SEE THE RISKS AND THE POTENTIAL FOR HARM. AND SO WE'RE ACTING TO MITIGATE THAT IN ADVANCE OF THE ISSUES.

SO THE AMENDMENT THAT'S ON THE FLOOR DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO END DISCUSSING THIS.

IT JUST MEANS WE'RE MOVING IT TO A DIFFERENT CHAPTER SO WE CAN ENFORCE IT BETTER.

BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO STILL CONTINUE ON THE DETAILS.

IS THAT HOW YOU READ IT AS WELL? SO SO IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR JUST A MOMENT AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. OUR COMMITMENT IS, IS THAT WE WANT TO FIND A WAY FORWARD THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO ADDRESS THE VERY ISSUES THAT MR. CHRISTIAN HAS PRESENTED. AND IF THIS MOTION WILL PROVIDE US WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP WORKING AND TO ENGAGE WITH SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS THAT I THINK WE HAVE LEARNED HAVE NOT BEEN ENGAGED, THEN WE WANT TO DO THAT AND STILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME ADDITIONAL YOU KNOW, PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE'RE WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT, BUT WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE ANSWER IS TO DO NOTHING.

AND JUST TO MOVE FROM CHAPTER 17 AND 50 AND THE CONVERSATION STOPS.

WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT IS GOING TO HELP US GOING FORWARD.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES. SO YES, IT DID.

AND SO I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHEN WE TALK AND YOU BROUGHT UP STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, CAN YOU HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? BECAUSE, I MEAN, AS IT'S BEEN KIND OF IT'S IT MAY AFFECT ONE PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.

HOWEVER, IT IS. IT IS A. IT'S GOING TO AFFECT LIKE THE STA.

OR COULD IT AFFECT THE CARNIVALS THAT WE HAVE OR THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT THAT WE HAVE IN OUR DISTRICTS? NO. SO SO WE SPECIFICALLY WROTE INTO THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE SOME PROTECTIONS FOR THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR OUTREACH WAS REALLY COORDINATED WITH THOSE WHO WERE MOST IMPACTED BY THESE CHANGES.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR SERVICE REQUEST DATA, THE MAJORITY OF THE SERVICE REQUESTS THAT WE RECEIVED RELATED TO STREET FEEDING WERE OCCURRING IN AND AROUND DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT TWO.

DISTRICT 14. AND SO WE CONDUCTED OUTREACH WITH THE NONPROFITS IN THOSE AREAS.

WE MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE AT MEETINGS, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THEM. AND THEN WE WE CONDUCTED OUTREACH TO OUR ENTIRE NOTIFICATION LIST.

SO EVERYONE WHO'S REACHED OUT TO US TO FEED WAS INVITED TO ENGAGE WITH US ON THIS TOPIC.

AND WE PRESENTED THIS FRAMEWORK TO THEM. AND THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF OUR ENGAGEMENT THUS FAR.

AND, AND SO THE ENGAGEMENT WON'T STOP WITH THIS.

WITH THIS AMENDMENT. IT WILL. THIS IS ACTUALLY WHEN THE WORK STARTS AGAIN.

YES. OKAY. SO IT'S CHANGING THE TO A DIFFERENT CHAPTER, BUT CONTINUING THE WORK.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN YOU WOULD BRING IT BACK TO US? I DO NOT. WE WOULD, WE WOULD TAKE THE GUIDANCE OF THIS BODY, WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEYS ON NEXT STEPS AND PROPOSED LANGUAGE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO FLESH ALL THAT OUT AND SEE WHEN IT WOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK.

OKAY. THANK YOU CHRIS. AND I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE MOTION THAT IT INCORPORATED A CERTAIN TIME FRAME.

BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO PROVIDE AND GIVE US KIND OF THE GUARDRAILS, AND WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO COME BACK, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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FIRST, STARTING WITH WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. OKAY.

YEAH. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY.

THE, OUR RECOMMENDATION INCLUDED A PERMIT REQUIREMENT.

AND SO BASICALLY WE WOULD MOVE FROM THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT THAT EXISTS NOW WHERE AN ORGANIZATION COULD NOTIFY US THAT THEY PLAN TO FEED 24 HOURS BEFORE OR UP TO 48 HOURS AFTER THE FEEDING, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THE SERVICE.

WE, OUR PERMIT REQUIREMENT WAS GOING TO REQUIRE TWO DAYS ADVANCE NOTICE ALL THE TIME.

THE PERMIT WAS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR 30 DAYS. SO YOU COULD PUT ALL OF YOUR FEEDING ENGAGEMENTS IN THAT ONE PERMIT APPLICATION LOW BARRIER AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED PERMIT, YOU WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR 30 DAYS TO FEED UNDER THAT PERMIT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE 48 HOURS ADVANCE NOTICE.

THE REMAINING THINGS WERE THE SAME EXACT DEFENSES THAT ARE MOVING OVER.

MOVING OVER TO CHAPTER 50 AS AFFIRMATIVES. AND SO IT WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN EXCEPTION OR THIS IS A DEFENSE.

IT WOULD BE AN AFFIRMATIVE REQUIREMENT OF THE PERMIT THAT YOU ADHERE TO THESE GUIDELINES.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE JUST OF THE CHANGES.

AND THE REASON IT'S GOING TO CHAPTER 50 IS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CHAPTER 50, BECAUSE OUR CHAPTER 17 CODE IS NOW ALIGNED WITH SENATE BILL 1008, TEXAS FOOD ESTABLISHMENT RULES. SO WE ALIGNED WITH STATE LAW, WHICH WE HAD TO, PER THE LAST LEGISLATION, LEGISLATURE. AND SO IT NO LONGER REGULATES STREET FEEDING OR CHARITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF FOOD AND DRINKS IN CHAPTER 17.

AND SO WE WE NEEDED TO PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT CHAPTER OF THE CODE.

WE FELT LIKE SINCE CHAPTER 50 ALREADY REGULATED STREET VENDING AND STREET VENDORS, THAT IT WAS THE APPROPRIATE PLACE.

OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE THE THE NOTICES PRIOR TO THIS, AS FAR AS THOSE NOTICES WERE, THOSE WERE, WERE, WAS THE CITY RECEIVING ANY OF THOSE NOTICES EITHER 24 HOURS BEFORE OR 4 TO 8 HOURS AFTER? WAS THAT HAPPENING CONSISTENTLY? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WE, WE, WE DID RECEIVE NOTICES, BUT NOT AT THE PACE AND SCALE THAT WE RECEIVE THEM NOW.

AND SO ONCE, ONCE WE WENT OUT LAST APRIL AND REALLY STARTED PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE FIELD RELATED TO THIS ACTIVITY, WE SAW A LIKE AN 80% INCREASE IN THE NOTICES THAT WE RECEIVED.

SO WE DO RECEIVE NOTICES NOW OF ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE, ARE GOING TO FEED OR PLANNING TO FEED.

NOW, THE NOTICES THAT SHOULD COME IN AFTER THE FACT.

WE DON'T WE DON'T ALWAYS ARE ARE RELEASING THOSE AT ALL.

SORRY. SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND I APPRECIATE THAT CLARITY ON THAT.

AND, AND, AND NOW, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S BEING ABOUT COUNCIL.

COUNCIL MEMBER BIZOR DO HIS AMENDMENT. HOW WOULD ANY OF THAT CHANGE? SO BAZALDUA AMENDMENT BASICALLY KEEPS THE SAME EXACT EXISTING FRAMEWORK.

IT JUST MOVES FROM CHAPTER 17 TO CHAPTER 50. AND SO IT WILL ACTUALLY BE EXACTLY AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

ORGANIZATIONS WILL STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE NOTICE.

IT CAN BE 24 HOURS BEFORE OR UP TO 48 HOURS AFTER, DEPENDING ON IF YOU'RE SERVING LESS THAN 75 PEOPLE OR MORE THAN 75 PEOPLE.

AND THE DEFENSES WILL REMAIN DEFENSES VERSUS AFFIRMATIVES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT CLARITY ON THAT, COLLEAGUES.

THIS THIS HAS COME THROUGH THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND I BELIEVE IT WENT THROUGH FULL COUNCIL AS WELL.

AND I MENTIONED IT EARLIER AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SERVED IN MINISTRY PARTICULARLY IN OUTREACH RAN THE CITY MISSIONS MINISTRY DID SEVERAL MISSION TRIPS. THERE'S, THERE'S THIS THING ABOUT IT AND WE TALK ABOUT THIS RELIGIOUS INFRINGEMENT.

AND THE THINGS I HAVEN'T HEARD IS THESE ARE THE ACTS, AND THE ACTS ARE MEANT TO DRAW YOU CLOSER TO THE PERSON SO THAT YOU CAN GET THEM CLOSER TO GOD. FROM THERE. SO I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE SIGHT OF WHAT THE INTENT OF ALL OF OUR ACTS.

IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRULY DOING, THE INTENT IS NOT JUST THE ACT OF SERVING, BUT TO ACTUALLY DRAW PEOPLE CLOSER TO GOD, CLOSER TO CHRIST, AND GET GET TO KNOW THEM AS WELL AS CONNECT THEM TO THEIR ADDITIONAL SERVICES.

AND WE ALL KNOW IN MINISTRY, YOU CANNOT GET TO A PERSON'S HEART IF YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS.

SO WHILE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S MEANT TO TO MEET THEIR BASIC NEEDS, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONNECTING THEM SO THAT WE CAN HEAL THE FULL PERSON, NOT JUST THEIR STOMACHS. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THEM TO THE RESOURCES.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, MY INTENT THAT THIS IS MEANT TO ALSO PUSH US TOWARDS A CLOSER CONNECTION WITH THE REST OF THE NETWORK TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR

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I KNOW WHEN I WAS SERVING, WE WERE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR PARTNERS TO SEE HOW WE COULD SERVE COLLECTIVELY AND DO IT IN A MORE CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT.

WE'VE SERVED IN SOUTH DALLAS. WE'VE SERVED REALLY ALL OVER THIS CITY.

SO THIS IS WHY I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT MEANT TO HINDER.

IT'S ACTUALLY MEANT TO DO IT. AND WHEN YOU. THERE'S A BOOK I REFERENCED EARLIER CALLED WHEN HELPING HURTS, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THOSE WHO ARE SERVING IN MINISTRY TO, TO LOOK AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE IS THE SERVICE THAT I'M PROVIDING IS THE MINISTRY THAT I'M PROVIDING. IS IT HELPING AND IS IT SAVING SOULS? BUT ALSO, AM I CREATING HINDRANCES FOR THE COMMUNITY IN AND AROUND THE COMMUNITY? AND OR AM I ACTUALLY MOVING THIS PERSON THAT I'M FEEDING TO A DIFFERENT TO THE NEXT LEVEL? AND IF SO, HOW? I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHEN FUNDS ARE BEING THREATENED ALL OVER THE CASE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DOING MINISTRY AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT DIFFERENTLY.

AND SOMETIMES IT DOES REQUIRE US TO PIVOT JUST A LITTLE BIT AND SOMETIMES DEPEND ON PARTNERS.

SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY MEANT TO HINDER FOLKS FROM SERVING, BUT IT'S REALLY MEANT TO, TO DRIVE US TOWARDS A COLLECTIVE EFFORT SO THAT WE CAN SERVE THE WHOLE PERSON, NOT JUST FEEDING, BUT ALSO KEEPING OUR STREETS CLEAN, ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WE'RE SERVING AREN'T GETTING SICK, BUT PRAYERFULLY MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE STILL HAVING OPPORTUNITIES TO REACH GOD, TO GROW CLOSER TO GOD.

AND THAT COMES THROUGH THE ACTS OF SERVICE. SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT AGAINST THE PROCESS.

I JUST DON'T WANT US TO GET CONFUSED IN WHAT THE INTENT OF ALL OF THIS IS.

AND I THINK WE ALL SHARE THAT NEED TO ADDRESS OUR HOMELESS NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY SERVE OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT ALSO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING IT IN A WAY THAT THAT MAKES THE ENTIRE CITY COMPLETE, WHETHER THAT'S DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

I THINK SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED IT. AND I THINK PASTOR JOHNSON ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT TOO.

YOU KNOW, THIS MAY NOT ALWAYS IMPACT, YOU KNOW, OR COULD IMPACT LARGER CHURCHES.

I MEAN, SMALLER CHURCHES WHO MAY NOT HAVE THAT ADMINISTRATIVE EFFORT TO DO THAT IN AND AROUND THEIR COMMUNITY.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE I WANT US TO, TO BE CONSCIOUS OF HOW WE'RE SERVING, WHO WE'RE SERVING, AND WHAT THE INTENT OF THE SERVICE IS MEANT TO DO. SO FOR THAT REASON, I DO APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

AND IT'S NOT TO PROHIBIT, BUT TO ACTUALLY BRING US ALL COLLECTIVELY SO WE CAN SERVE AN ENTIRE THE WHOLE PERSON TOGETHER.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY, FOR YOUR COMMENTS IN YOUR MEMORANDUM THAT WE SENT TO YOU YESTERDAY.

THERE WERE OVER 40 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT CURRENTLY HAVE PARTICIPATED IN PROVIDING EMAIL NOTICES.

AND DEPENDING ON WHAT ACTION COUNCIL TAKES TODAY, I THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN YOUR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS THAT YOU WOULD WANT US TO ENGAGE WITH AROUND THIS. SO PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT LIST.

AND IF THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU'VE PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH AND THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT, THAT YOU WANT US TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH ABOUT THESE PARTICULAR AMENDMENTS, WE ARE WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO SO.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE LIST THAT WE DID PROVIDE TO YOU ON YESTERDAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN JOHNSON. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT BY MR. BAZALDUA, NOT THE UNDERLYING MOTION, WHICH WAS BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. MY COLLEAGUE CHAIR GRACEY KIND OF PUT US IN SUNDAY MORNING MODE A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO I'M GOING TO TRY MY BEST NOT TO DO THE SAME.

I SERVE AS PASTOR OF NEW MORNING STAR MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

I ALSO SERVE HUMBLY SERVE AS THE DISTRICT FOUR COUNCIL MEMBER.

PRIOR TO THAT SCHOOL BOARD TRUSTEE MY DISTRICT WENT FROM WILMER, TEXAS OAK CLIFF, WEST DALLAS, UPTOWN, DOWNTOWN, AND WE SERVED. I SEE RONNIE SITTING ON THE SECOND ROW, AND WE'VE SERVED COUNTLESS OF UNHOUSED AND HOMELESS AND THOSE THAT NEED FOOD OFTEN.

AND IT WAS NEVER PLANNED. BUT WHAT WE DID WAS WHEN WE HAD EVENTS, EVEN MY WIFE AND I ON A SUNDAYS HAD LEFTOVER FOOD AND INSTEAD OF THROWING IT AWAY, WE CAME DOWN AND GAVE IT TO OUR OWN HOUSE COMMUNITY.

ONE TIME I WAS DRIVING, I WASN'T, I DIDN'T LET ANYONE KNOW.

AND I WAS CAME ON THE CITY HALL BECAUSE WE WERE SOME SERVING SOME UNHOUSED COMMUNITIES.

AND I HAD TO LET THE SECURITY KNOW AFTER THEY SAW MY FACE, IT WAS ME TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MINISTER TO THOSE THAT'S IN NEED.

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AND SO I PATTERNED MY LIFE AFTER THE, AFTER THE HOLY BIBLE.

THAT'S WHERE MY VISION AND VALUE LIES. AND SO I WANT TO THANK ALTHOUGH THIS IS A VERY TOUGH DECISION, I WANT TO THANK CHAIR STEWART. I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA AND OUR CITY MANAGER WHO WHEN THIS DISCUSSION CAME, LISTENED VERY INTENTLY. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE FEEDING AND SOME AND THIS DOES SOMETIMES AFFECT SMALLER CHURCHES WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO THROW FOOD AWAY, BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT EVERYONE THAT'S IN NEED.

AND YOU CAN ONLY DO YOUR LEVEL BEST. THERE'S NO SILVER BULLET TO THIS.

I THINK THERE WILL ALWAYS BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GIVE AND BE GOOD STEWARDS AND BE GOOD CITIZENS AND GOOD NEIGHBORS.

AND SO WHILE THIS IS A CHALLENGING OF EFFORT, I UNDERSTAND THE MOVE THAT COUNCILMAN BAZALDUA IS TRYING TO DO, AND IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.

SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

THIS IS NOT NOT IN NO WAYS TAKING AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS TO BE ABLE TO FEED AND, AND MINISTER TO THOSE. IT ALSO PUTS ACCOUNTABILITY AROUND IT, WHICH SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IN WEST DALLAS AND OTHER AREAS THAT WE'VE SERVED IS ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE. AND SO I'M ONE THAT DO THE WORK.

I'M BOOTS ON THE GROUND. I'M A GRASSROOTS GUY. MANY OF YOU GUYS THAT SERVE WITH ME KNOW THAT I'M UP LATE AT NIGHT TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY AND WORKING, AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE PROBLEMS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST IN DISTRICT FOUR, BUT HOLISTICALLY IN THE CITY AS AS AS JUST A PASTOR, NOT ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST A PASTOR, A SERVANT. AND SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. BAZALDUA.

FOR THIS AMENDMENT. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERY ORGANIZATION THAT'S TRYING TO MINISTER AND TRYING TO MEET THAT NEED, BECAUSE MINISTERING IS NOTHING MORE THAN SERVITUDE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO MAYOR CHIME IN ON THIS, THIS MATTER, AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. CHAIR GRACEY, THANK YOU FOR FOR YOUR WORDS.

YOU KNOW, THIS REALLY IS A DIFFICULT DECISION, AND I APPRECIATE BRINGING IN THE HUMAN ELEMENT TO IT.

BUT THE REALITY IS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

THIS IS NOT A. RUSHED ITEM THAT WE ARE PUTTING BEFORE.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF IMPACT IN DISCUSSION WITH PROVIDERS.

THE REALITY IS THAT FOLKS CAN ACTUALLY PARTNER WITH OUR PROVIDERS AND GO AND AND DO THESE GOODWILLS.

AND SO AGAIN, I BELIEVE THIS THIS AMENDMENT IS SORRY, EXCUSE ME.

THE UNDERLYING MOTION IS NARROW. IT'S LEGAL. I DON'T FEEL THAT THE CITY IS IN JEOPARDY OF A LAWSUIT.

IF A LAWSUIT WERE TO COME, I BELIEVE WE WOULD PREVAIL.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR DATA. WE ASKED FOR.

WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SICK? THE REALITY IS THAT THAT'S INFORMATION THAT'S PROTECTED BY HIPAA.

WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THAT INFORMATION TO SEE WHO IS GETTING SICK OR NOT.

AND WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT FOODBORNE ILLNESS IS IN FACT LEADS TO PEOPLE WITH WEAKENED IMMUNE SYSTEMS TO BECOME ILL. THAT'S INFORMATION THAT THE HOSPITALS ARE JUST NOT GOING TO SHARE ON INDIVIDUALS TO THE CITY.

AND SO AGAIN, I DON'T IT'S I THINK IT'S HARD TO PROVIDE THAT DATA THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS PROTECTED.

AND SO AGAIN, I URGE MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THE UNDERLYING MOTION AND STAND WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT IS TRYING TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN NEED, BUT ALSO FOR THEIR COMMUNITY AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT BEFORE US.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. BAZALDUA, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WOULD STRONGLY DISAGREE. AS THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER HERE WHO IS A PROCTOR FOR CERTIFICATION OF FOOD HANDLER CERTIFICATES, THAT THE NOTION THAT THERE'S ANY HIPAA VIOLATION IN FINDING HIGH LEVEL CASES AND DATA TO SUPPORT IS ANYTHING THAT WOULD INFRINGE ON RIGHTS. IN FACT, I WOULD BELIEVE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO BUILD AN EVIDENTIARY, TO HAVE A CASE TO DEFEND. AS MY COLLEAGUE JUST MENTIONED, WHERE THIS ORDINANCE REALLY STRUGGLES IS SEVERAL PLACES.

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WE HAVE TO PROVE A COMPELLING INTEREST FOR THE CITY'S PUBLIC BENEFIT.

AND THIS CASE, IT'S FOR THE IMMINENT THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

WE ALSO HAVE TO APPLY LEAST RESTRICTIVE MEANS AS POSSIBLE, PER COURT RULINGS IN THE PAST.

WELL, I CAN SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT THIS ORDINANCE SPEAKS THE SAME TO PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHICH REALLY WEAKENS OUR ARGUMENT TO MANAGING PUBLIC SPACE AND REGULATING THE ACT OF FEEDING ITSELF.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WANT TO RECLASSIFY THE VERBIAGE OF STREET VENDING TO INCLUDE STREET FEEDING.

THE ISSUE IS FEEDING THE HOMELESS IS NOT COMMERCIAL.

IT'S OFTEN EXPRESSIVE, AND IT'S MOST OFTEN DONE THROUGH RELIGION.

CALLING CHARITY VENDING DOES NOT MAKE IT SO. AND COURTS LOOK AT SUBSTANCE, NOT LABELS.

LACK OF EVIDENTIARY RECORD. WE'VE HEARD CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO RECORD THAT CORRELATES.

WE CANNOT CONFUSE CORRELATION TO CAUSATION, AND WE DON'T KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN ANY OUTBREAKS OR FOODBORNE ILLNESSES THAT HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY ATTRIBUTED TO ANY OF THESE FEEDINGS.

THAT WOULD BE SPECULATION. COURTS REQUIRE EVIDENCE, NOT ASSUMPTIONS OR SPECULATION.

WE ARE NOT PUTTING OURSELVES IN A GOOD GROUND AND A GOOD LEG TO STAND ON WHEN THIS WILL INEVITABLY BE CHALLENGED.

IN FACT, WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED EMAILS FROM RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT THEY PLAN ON CHALLENGING THIS AFTER ITS PASSAGE.

THIS IS STATUS QUO, ROLLING UP YOUR SLEEVES AND FIGURING OUT WHAT ACTUALLY WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IS TRUE GOVERNING. I WANT TO JUST ADDRESS ONE ISSUE IN SECTION 17, 1.6 ON THE EXCEPTIONS, SUBSECTION THREE SELLING, DISTRIBUTING, DISTRIBUTING OR SERVING FOOD AT ANY EVENT, PARTY OR OTHER SPECIAL GATHERING THAT IS NOT OPEN TO PERSONS OTHER THAN THE MEMBERS OR INVITED GUESTS OF THE SPONSOR, PROVIDED THAT THERE IS NO PUBLIC ADVERTISEMENT OF THE EVENT, WHICH MEANS ALL NATIONAL NIGHT OUTS WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THIS AND NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THIS IS NOT WELL THOUGHT OUT. THERE ARE AMENDMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL GIVE US TIME TO DO THIS APPROPRIATELY.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU'RE WELCOME. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

WOULD WE BE ABLE TO REPEAT WHAT THE MOTION IS SPECIFICALLY? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE IS A SECTION NOT JUST MOVING IT, BUT ALSO STRIKING SOMETHING.

DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? IT MOVES. SECTION 17-1.6, PARAGRAPH FIVE TO CHAPTER 50, JUST LIKE IT IS WITH ONE CHANGE. AND THAT IS TO IN THE DEFINITION, WHICH IS TO INCLUDE THE SERVICE OR DISTRIBUTION OF FOOD OR DRINK FREE OF CHARGE.

IT JUST AMENDS THE DEFINITION. AND WHAT DOES THAT CHANGE DO FOR HOW IT'S IMPLEMENTED? I'M SORRY. AND THAT CHANGE, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT HOW HOW CODE COMPLIANCE WORKS? HOW THERE'S NO CHANGE WHATSOEVER? NO, NONE AT ALL.

IT IS. IT'S JUST MOVING IT FROM 17 TO 50. SO THEN WHY HAVE.

WHY HAVE IT IN THERE? WE HAVE TO MOVE IT OUT OF 17.

NO, NO. BUT WHY HAVE THE CHANGE ABOUT NO CHARGE? OH, BECAUSE THE DEFINITION, THE DEFINITION HAS TO CHANGE TO INCLUDE WHAT.

17-1.6 GOVERNS. AND THAT IS SERVICE OF OR DISTRIBUTION OF FOOD OR DRINKS FREE OF CHARGE.

SO SO YOU'RE STRIKING THAT NO CHARGE IS INCLUDED OR YOU'RE INCLUDING WE'RE ADDING CHARGE.

YOU'RE INCLUDING IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S IN 17 IT WASN'T ADDED THEN THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT HOMELESS DISTRIBUTION OF FOOD.

RIGHT. WE HAVE TO ADD IT TO MARRY UP THE DEFINITIONS FROM 17 TO 50.

OKAY. IT'S JUST KEEPS IT EXACTLY THE SAME. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO ECHO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA SAID.

THERE'S NO HIPAA ISSUE HERE. THE, THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY OFTEN RELEASES WHEN THERE'S OUTBREAKS OF ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT DISEASES.

AND IF THERE WAS AN OUTBREAK OF A FOOD BORNE ILLNESS, THEN CERTAINLY WE WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT AND WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE EASILY COLLECTIBLE WITH OUR PARTNERS FROM THE COUNTY.

THE SECOND IS, I WANT TO THANK CHAIRMAN JOHNSON FOR HIS WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF HIS CHURCH WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOOD DOESN'T GO TO WASTE AND GOES TO PEOPLE WHO WOULD

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SO THIS WOULD GREATLY IMPACT SMALLER CHURCHES, YOUR CHURCH, AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT MANY OTHERS THAT WOULDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY HAD AN ABUNDANCE IN A SHORT TIME FRAME. I KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS A HOMELESS SHELTER DIRECTOR, WE WOULD OFTEN HAVE TRUCKERS WHO ARE UNABLE TO ACCEPT TO DROP OFF THEIR LOAD OF LARGE ITEMS OF FOOD THAT WERE PERISHABLE AND THEY WERE DISTRIBUTED.

NOW WE HAD OUR OWN CALL LIST OF GRADUATES OF THE SHELTER.

BUT BUT THIS TIMELINESS IS AN ISSUE. AND AGAIN, AN UNNECESSARY BURDEN.

AND THE LEGAL ISSUE IS REAL. THIS IS VERY REMINISCENT OF WHEN WE TRIED TO WELL, WHILE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS TRIED TO EXCLUDE OUR CALLING FROM OVERNIGHT SHELTERING AND I REPEATEDLY SAID, WE ARE GOING TO GET SUED.

AND GUESS WHAT? WE GOT SUED. AND OUR CALLING CAN DO OVERNIGHT SHELTERING BECAUSE OF RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.

AND THAT WILL HAPPEN ONCE AGAIN. AND WE WILL LOSE AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S VERY CLEAR THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING THIS OTHER THAN THERE'S RESIDENTS WHO ARE UNHAPPY. AND I WILL SAY IT'S QUITE A SIGHT WHEN THERE'S ONE, TWO, THREE, 400 PEOPLE LINED UP FOR FOOD AND THERE IS DEBRIS, AND THESE ARE THINGS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING DIRECTLY, NOT THE STREET FEEDING ISSUE. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.

RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

COULD MR. CHRISTIAN RETURN TO THE PODIUM? SO, MR. CHRISTIAN, COULD YOU SUMMARIZE THE BRIEFING MATERIALS ON THE ISSUE OF A CONNECTION BETWEEN FOODBORNE ILLNESS AND SERVING FOOD THAT IS OUTSIDE OF ACCEPTED TEMPERATURE RANGES? COUNCIL MEMBER. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I'M GOING TO HAVE CODE ADMINISTRATOR NARADA LEE, WHO OVERSEES OUR CONSUMER HEALTH DEPARTMENT, COME AND ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. GOOD MORNING.

NARADA LEE, CODE ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATOR. SO THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE IS USUALLY WHEN THERE IS FOOD OUTSIDE OF TIME AND TEMPERATURE, THAT IS FOUR HOURS. WE USUALLY IT CREATES BACTERIA WITHIN THOSE DANGER ZONES.

THOSE DANGER ZONES ARE ANYTHING THAT'S ABOVE 41 DEGREES, WHICH IS THE COLD HOLDING TEMPERATURES AND ANYTHING THAT'S BELOW 135 DEGREES. IT CREATES BACTERIA AND WILL USUALLY CAUSE A POTENTIAL PERSON THAT EAT THE FOOD TO GET SICK. WELL, I'M SORRY, THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT EVIDENCE DO WE HAVE IN THE RECORD OTHER THAN YOUR PERSONAL OPINION AS TO INSTANCES OF WHERE THAT HAS CAUSED FOODBORNE ILLNESS IN OTHER CITIES IN DALLAS, WHEREVER. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER. IF YOU IF YOU REMEMBER, IN OUR BRIEFING PRESENTATION IN THE BACK, WE INCLUDED AN APPENDIX AND THAT APPENDIX, WE HAD WHAT WE FOUND AND WERE ABLE TO RETRIEVE FROM DALLAS COUNTY FOODBORNE ILLNESS DATA.

AND SO THAT IS INCLUDED IN BOTH OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

WELL, THE SECOND QUALITY OF LIFE BRIEFING PRESENTATION AND ALSO THE FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING PRESENTATION THAT CAME BEFORE YOU LAST WEEK.

IN THAT APPENDIX, IT HAS THE ILLNESS DATA AS REPORTED BY DALLAS COUNTY, AND WE WERE ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE RECORD.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS THERE, BUT I WAS HOPING THAT YOU COULD AT LEAST BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE WHAT THOSE STATISTICS SHOW IN TERMS OF THE CONNECTION BETWEEN SERVING FOOD OUTSIDE OF TEMPERATURE RANGES AND FOOD BORNE ILLNESS.

WHAT'S THE EXPERIENCE BEEN? SO BASICALLY WHAT THE DATA SHOWS IS THAT IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, THERE'S A SPIKE IN FOODBORNE ILLNESSES. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S A SPIKE DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS IN STREET FEEDING ACTIVITY AND ORGANIZATIONS FEEDING US. I CANNOT SAY THAT THOSE TWO CORRELATE, BUT THE DATA HERE REFLECTS A SPIKE IN THE SUMMER MONTHS AS WELL AS THE THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY MONTHS. SO WAS THERE ANY EFFORT TO CORRELATE INCIDENCE OF FOODBORNE ILLNESS WITH THE HOMELESS? NO, SIR, THERE WERE NOT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON MR. BAZALDUA? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES, I GUESS.

ONE MINUTE, ONE MINUTE, ONE MINUTE. MR. CHRISTIAN.

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SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A NOTICE IN PLACE FOR VENDORS, AS WE'RE CALLING THEM NOW.

RIGHT. WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS A FREE. I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE IT'S FREE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S NO COST BURDEN, BUT THERE'S A FREE PERMIT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED AS THE SOLUTION.

WOULD YOU CONSIDER PROVIDING A NOTICE OR APPLYING FOR A PERMIT TO BE LEAST RESTRICTIVE? PROVIDING A NOTICE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE.

THANK YOU. WELL, I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR, AND I HOPE THAT OTHERS WILL AS WELL. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T WORK ON OTHER ASPECTS OF ADDRESSING THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, I THINK, SOLELY DOWNTOWN. I DON'T THINK THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING ALL OVER.

AND IT NEEDS VERY SPECIFIC INTERVENTIONS IN MY OPINION.

I'VE SEEN LOTS OF PHOTOS OF IT. I'VE DRIVEN BY IT.

I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE AT THESE EVENTS. THEY'RE KIND HEARTED.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.

IT WOULD BE SO MUCH BETTER IF THEY WOULD PARTNER WITH OUR SHELTERS AND PROVIDE THAT IN THE SHELTER.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING TO EDUCATE THEM ON HOW TO DO THAT, AND MORE NEEDS TO HAPPEN ALONG THAT AVENUE, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD BE RESTRICTING IT IN THIS MANNER. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU MAYOR.

AGAIN, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT.

THIS AMENDMENT CONTINUES WITH STATUS QUO. IT LEADS TO NO FURTHER ACTION BEFORE THIS BODY DOESN'T BRING ANY FUTURE DATES ON WHEN NEW CHANGES COULD BE IMPLEMENTED. AND SO WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING TODAY IS DOING NOTHING.

AND SO I HOPE AGAIN, THAT YOU STAND WITH THE THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME AND SPOKE TODAY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. MAYOR. RECORD VOTE PLEASE. DULY NOTED, MISS BLAIR.

RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I HAVE A QUESTION.

AFTER ALL THIS DISCUSSION. WE'RE MOVING 171-6 TO TO CHAPTER 50 AS IS CONTINUES THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE DOING.

CORRECT? TO WHO ARE YOU LOOKING TO? TO OUR ATTORNEY.

OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT A LEGAL QUESTION.

YEAH. I SAID MOVING. CHAPTER MOVING. WHAT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED ON ITS FACE IS JUST MOVING.

CHAPTER 171--1-.6. I GET IT RIGHT IN A MINUTE TO CHAPTER 50.

JUST AS IT IS. CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE THE AGENDA.

THAT'S CORRECT. WHAT THE WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON RIGHT NOW, THE, THE CHANGE TO THE AMENDMENT AND AMENDING THE DEFINITION OF STREET VENDOR TO VENDOR DOES NOT CHANGE THE THE, THE ABILITY TO STILL SERVICE. IT'S JUST CHANGING. IT'S JUST THE AMENDMENT OF THE DEFINITION OF STREET VENDOR OR VENDOR TO INCLUDE THE SERVICE OR DISTRIBUTION OF FOOD. IT JUST DEFINES IT. CORRECT. IT JUST ADDS THE DEFINITION FROM 17 INTO 50.

SO IT'S NOT IN 50 TODAY AND IT'S NOT IN THE DEFINITION IS NOT IN 17.

IT IS. IT'S IN 17. NOW WE'RE JUST ADDING IT TO 50.

OKAY. SO LET ME ASK IT CHANGES. IT CHANGES NOTHING ABOUT 17.

CHAPTER 17. IT COULD STILL BE ENFORCED THE WAY IT IS TODAY.

SO THE, THE BANTERING WE'RE DOING ABOUT WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG.

IT'S DOES NOT REALLY MATTER BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE THE WAY WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK, WHETHER IT IS IN 17 OR 50. AM I CORRECT? I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY MANAGER, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT. IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE BOOKS CURRENTLY, EXCEPT MOVING IT FROM ONE CHAPTER TO ANOTHER AND ADDING AND CHANGING THE DEFINITION.

JUST MOVING THE DEFINITION INTO 50. OKAY, SO WE HAVE, WE, WE HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT 17.17-1.6 JUST MOVES IT TO 50 FROM 17 DASH BECAUSE OF THE REASONS WE NEED TO CORRECT.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS RIGHT NOW.

AND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THAT THE MOVING PLUS ADDING PLUS CHANGE.

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THAT IS CORRECT. WE WILL CONTINUE. BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL CHOOSES TO, TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY TO WORK ON IT AND MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, I TALKED ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS INITIAL PROCESS THAT WE'VE UNDERTAKEN, THAT WE WOULD WELCOME THAT AND WOULD DEFINITELY BE WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN YOUR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS THAT WE WANT TO PULL INTO THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, THAT WE WOULD DO THAT AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED LAST WEEK AND AGAIN TODAY DEPENDING ON WHICH DIRECTION COUNCIL GOES, WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK AND COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH SOME ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD HELP US BE MORE EFFECTIVE. I THINK IT'S REALLY ABOUT MR. CHRISTIAN TALKED ABOUT THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB IF WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL TOOLS. AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. BUT THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS FURTHER QUESTION.

IF WE APPROVE THE THE WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR THAT IS READ BY MR. BAZALDUA, AND I ASK ON THE RECORD THAT IT GOES THAT THAT AFTER THIS IS WHICHEVER ONE IS APPROVED THAT YOU CONTINUOUSLY WORK IN COMMITTEE TO REFINE, DEFINE AND TO CORRECT ANYTHING THAT IS INCORRECT AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD TO.

WOULD THAT THEN GIVE EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WANT? IT WOULD IT WOULD MOVE THE NEED TO MOVE 17 INTO EITHER WHETHER WITH OR WITHOUT THE DEFINITION INTO CHAPTER 50.

AND THEN THE DIRECTION GIVEN TO YOU WITH STAFF TO TAKE IT TO COMMITTEE TO CONFER EITHER CLEAN UP ANYTHING THAT IS INCORRECT. WOULD YOU DO THAT? YES, MA'AM.

SO, MAYOR, CAN I AMEND WHAT IS WRITTEN TO INCLUDE WHAT MR. BAZALDUA DID, PLUS THE DIRECTION TO CONTINUE MOVING TO CLEAN UP ANY LANGUAGE THAT IS THAT IS NEEDED IN THE OPERATION OF FEEDING THOSE INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE OF, WELL, ON STREET, ON THE STREET TO CLEAN IT UP SO THAT WE HAVE BETTER DEFINITIONS AS TO HOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO IT.

I'M NOT SURE THAT'S. SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THAT WE SEND IT BACK.

WE WE WE WE MOVE THIS AND SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE TO FOR THE FURTHER CLEANING UP OF, OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THE FIRST THING YOU SAID, ALL THE AMENDING STUFF YOU'RE NOT.

THAT'S. NO, I JUST WANT TO MOVE. I JUST WANT THIS DONE.

BUT I WANTED TO ALSO MOVE TO VOTE ON THIS, BUT TO ALSO AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT WE THAT MY, MY FRIEND OVER THERE PASTOR TODAY. OKAY. GRACEY IS GOING TO ALSO MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE IT BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION.

LET'S DO THOSE. LET'S JUST YOU CAN JUST STOP IF YOU'D LIKE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY YOU RECOGNIZE. YEAH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO AMEND THE EXISTING COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA MOTION TO ADD THAT IT COME BACK TO QUALITY OF LIFE FOR REVIEW. AND WE HAVE THIS DONE BY NO LATER THAN JUNE.

OKAY. THAT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. SO YOU NOW HAVE FIVE MINUTES IF YOU'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN YOUR AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

YEAH. AND AGAIN, I THINK GIVEN ALL OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD TODAY, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING AND IT'S MEETING THE NEED.

AND AGAIN, FOR MANY OF YOU, IT'S ABOUT FEEDING AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT BUT IT'S ALSO BEYOND THAT. IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN CONNECT ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS IN A WAY THAT,

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AND IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS THAT NEED TO BE HAD SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT, THEN I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK THROUGH QUALITY OF LIFE SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT SORTED OUT, SO THAT WE'RE DOING THIS IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE ORGANIZATIONS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING PROHIBITED.

BUT WE'RE ALSO DOING SOMETHING IN A, IN A WAY THAT, AGAIN, IF WE'RE COLLECTIVELY TRYING TO ADDRESS HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, THEN EVERY ORGANIZATION THAT IS TOUCHING THESE INDIVIDUALS NEED TO BE CONNECTED IN SOME WAY.

AND I'M ABSOLUTELY INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT DISCUSSION AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE LEVEL.

MR. BAZALDUA RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. YES.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION. IF I COULD PLEASE ADDRESS MR. GRACEY. JUST TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU HAVE PUT AN AMENDMENT ON, WE WOULD HAVE TO DISPOSE OF THIS FIRST, BUT THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS WOULD NOT PROHIBIT US FROM STILL TAKING UP THE DEFINITIONAL CHANGE AND THE CODE CHANGE.

IS THAT YOUR INTENT, CORRECT. JUST THE PORTION THAT YOU WERE PROPOSING TO BE AMENDED TO.

MOVE OVER. I WANT TO CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION.

SO. YES, MAYOR, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I, AS THE MOTION MAKER, HAVE NO OBJECTION IF THE SECOND DOESN'T TO INCLUDE IT IN THE MOTION SO THAT IT THAT WE CAN STILL ACCOMPLISH MOVING THIS FORWARD. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE SECOND PART THAT WE ARE DELAYING FROM THE AGENDA WOULD BE REMANDED TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THAT WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION.

I'M MOSTLY CONCERNED THROUGH PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, THAT IF WE WERE TO DISPOSE OF A REMAND OF THE ENTIRE ITEM WITHOUT ADDRESSING THIS FIRST, THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO MOVE THIS PORTION FORWARD.

OKAY. SO LET ME, LET ME CONFER WITH THE DEPARTMENT CHAIR TO FIGURE OUT PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I JUST WANT TO FIGURE OUT ON THIS INQUIRY FIRST.

I THINK IT RELATES HOW THAT WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED.

YEAH. WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY MADE THE MOTION, I WROTE DOWN TO THAT. YOU WANT TO MOVE AND AMEND AND REMAND THE SUBJECT MATTER BACK TO QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY. THAT'S HOW I WROTE IT DOWN.

OKAY. SO THAT WOULD NEED TO BE VOTED ON UP OR DOWN.

AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE UP THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT BEFORE THEN PROCEEDING TO THE UNDERLYING MOTION TO APPROVE THE ENTIRE ITEM.

SO IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION. PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. OKAY.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE ONE INQUIRY WE HAVE ON THE FRONT RIGHT NOW.

SO. IF THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY.

SO I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY OBJECTION TO THAT APPROACH.

I DON'T HEAR ANY OBJECTION. SO YOU CAN DO THIS FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

SO IT'S ACCEPTED AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I BELIEVE THAT THAT A VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE ON THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR WOULD ACCOMPLISH BOTH WHAT MR. GRACEY HAS ADDED TO AND WHAT I PUT FORTH THAT WAS DEBATED ALREADY.

SO GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRELIMINARY INQUIRY. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU. SO I THINK THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION IS UNNECESSARY.

HE'S THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. HE CAN PUT THAT ON HIS AGENDA ANYTIME HE WISHES TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

BUT. BUT THAT'S WHAT. OKAY. GO AHEAD. I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN, TAMMY.

IT BELONGS TO COUNCIL NOW. AND SO REMANDING IT TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE IS IS IN ORDER, BUT IF WE PASSED BAZALDUA COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA AMENDMENT AND IT PASSED THE FULL COUNCIL FOR THE UNDERLYING CHANGE, THEN THEN WE'VE DISPOSED OF THE ITEM AND HE'S FREE TO PUT THAT BACK ON HIS AGENDA, ISN'T HE? WELL, I THINK HE SPECIFICALLY WANTS IT TO GO TO QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO HE'S MAKING THAT DETERMINATION THAT THIS PARTICULAR.

I MEAN, I'M I'M, I THINK THE MOTION IF THE MAYOR IS ASKING ME, IT'S IN ORDER.

OKAY. WELL, DO YOU FIND IT NECESSARY TO HAVE THAT FOR THE CHAIR OF QUALITY OF LIFE TO PUT THE ITEM ON.

IF WE HAVE DISPOSED OF THE BUSINESS, THAT'S BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

I'M NOT SURE I AGREE THAT IT'S DISPOSED OF BECAUSE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ALL.

MANY HAVE SAID THAT THEY WANT THIS ITEM TO BE CONTINUED TO BE WORKED ON.

SO TO REMAND THE, YOU KNOW, THE TOPIC DOWN TO COMMITTEE, I THINK IS APPROPRIATE AND TO A PARTICULAR COMMITTEE.

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I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT. I DO APPRECIATE CHAIR GRACEY'S EFFORT TO TRY TO COME TO A BETTER COMPROMISE UNDERSTANDING, BUT I FEEL THAT THIS DISCUSSION HAS BEEN HAD.

WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS AROUND IT. AND SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE AMENDMENT BY? I GUESS IT'S NOT CHAIR GRACEY THAT HIS AMENDMENT.

IT IS ALL RIGHT. A RECORD VOTE. WAS THAT REQUESTED ON THIS ONE OR NO.

WOULD YOU LIKE ONE? ANYONE THIS. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? I DIDN'T HEAR A REQUEST FOR RECORD VOTE THEN. SO ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. I ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. SO NOW WE'RE ON ON ITEM 12 AS IT WAS AMENDED BY CHAIRMAN GRACEY. SO WE ARE NOW ON THE ON THE UNDERLYING AMENDMENT AS IT'S BEEN AMENDED.

SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON AGENDA ITEM 12 AS IT'S BEEN AMENDED? MAYOR. THIS IS THE ONE I'D LIKE THE RECORD VOTE ON. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, RECORD VOTES WERE REQUESTED.

SO, MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I CALL YOUR NAME. PLEASE STATE. YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU'RE OPPOSED. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BLAIR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ROTH. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO. NO. MAYOR JOHNSON NO. WITH 12 VOTING IN FAVOR TO OPPOSE ONE ABSENT VOTE TAKEN. THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, MADAM SECRETARY. GO AHEAD WITH THE ONE WE SKIPPED OVER BEFORE PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY.

YEAH. STATE YOUR INQUIRY. I BELIEVE WE JUST VOTED ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE UNDERLYING MOTION.

WASN'T THAT BAZALDUA WAS AN AMENDMENT TO AN UNDERLYING MOTION.

THE UNDERLYING MOTION BECAUSE I THOUGHT, ANYWAY, GO AHEAD, I'LL LET THE PARLIAMENTARIAN EXPLAIN THAT WHILE I ALSO WORK ON SOMETHING WITH THE CITY SECRETARY. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THE GRACEY AMENDMENT WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA MOTION.

AND SO WHAT YOU DID WAS YOU VOTED ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN FOLD ALL OF IT FOLDED IN TO THE MAIN MOTION, WHICH YOU JUST VOTED ON. BUT THE FIRST MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO TO APPROVE, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA MADE AN AMENDMENT RIGHT.

AND SO GRACEY WAS AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. SO WE TOOK CARE OF THAT ONE. WE TOOK CARE OF THIS ONE, BUT WE DIDN'T VOTE ON THE UNDERLYING HIS SUBSTITUTES, HIS MOTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT I DID WITH THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

WITHOUT OBJECTION. MANEUVER. MAYBE WE DIDN'T.

I THOUGHT WE DID THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO DO 19 THEN.

[19. 26-1054A Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to the professional engineering services contract with Criado & Associates, LLC, formerly known as Criado & Associates, Inc., for engineering, subsurface utilities engineering, and survey services - Not to exceed $1,000,000.00, from $2,642,569.00 to $3,642,569.00 - Financing: Convention Center Construction Fund (subject to annual appropriations) *In alignment with Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center Plan.]

AUTHORIZED SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT. NUMBER TWO TO THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH CRIADO AND ASSOCIATES LLC, FORMERLY KNOWN AS CRIADO AND ASSOCIATES, INC.

FOR ENGINEERING, SUBSURFACE UTILITY, ENGINEERING AND SURVEY SERVICES NOT TO EXCEED $1 MILLION FROM $2,642,569 TO $3,642,569. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. MR.. MAYOR. AGENDA ITEM 19.

ALL RIGHT. LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE? HOW ABOUT A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

SO I JUST PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE I'LL BE VOTING NO.

AND I'M VOTING NO BECAUSE WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON QUITE A FEW CONVENTION CENTER ITEMS, AND TO GO AHEAD AND PURSUE ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING WHEN WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE EVERYTHING'S EVEN GOING.

SEEMS LIKE A BAD USE OF $1 MILLION. AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO PAUSE UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW THIS IS GOING TO INTERFACE WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT

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DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS. SO THE SCOPE OF THE CONTRACT IS SURVEYING AND SEWER SERVICES, BUT IN CONNECTION WITH WHAT I ASSUME THE CONVENTION CENTER.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER? DO THESE SERVICES RELATE? SO THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS BEEN USING OUR CONTRACT, WHICH IS AN ON CALL CONTRACT FOR THESE SERVICES.

WELL, BUT ARE THESE SERVICES WITH REGARD TO ROADS, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE VIADUCTS, WHAT DO THEY RELATE TO? SURE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.

ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.

SPECIFICALLY, THIS IS THE LEADER IN THE SURVEYING AND THE PLANNING OF THE ACTUAL SITE TO INCLUDE THE THE WFAA PROPERTY THAT WE PURCHASED ALONG WITH THE ADDITIONAL RECENT PURCHASE OF THE PARKING LOT FROM WFA. AND TO CONTINUE THE REALLY THE FULL SITE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER PROPERTY.

SO THE EAST OF LAUREN WEST OF LA MAR SIDE. SO IT'S THE FULL SCOPE.

WE ARE ALLOCATING $1 MILLION TO AN EXISTING CONTRACT THAT TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS CURRENTLY HAS.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE SPENDING THE ENTIRETY OF THAT AMOUNT, BUT ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED ENOUGH FUNDS.

WE WILL UPDATE YOU AS SURVEYING AND PLANNING CONTINUES.

SO WILL THESE SERVICES HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH THE JEFFERSON VIADUCT? YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'LL BRING YOU ON MAY 19TH. WE'LL TALK TO THAT.

BUT CURRENTLY, NO, THESE DO NOT. THESE HAVE TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL SITE ON WEST OF LAMAR AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET, INCLUDING THE CEMETERY, THE PIONEER PLAZA, THE ARENA, ALL OF THOSE AREAS SO THAT WE'RE COVERING THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.

SO THIS HAS BEEN UNDERGOING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.

I THINK THERE WAS JUST A LAPSE IN HOW MUCH WAS AVAILABLE ON AN EXISTING CONTRACT THAT TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS HAD.

AND SO WE'RE ADDING MONEY TO IT. GIVEN THAT THIS DOES NOT RELATE TO THE VIADUCTS, WHICH ARE AN OPEN QUESTION FOR THIS COUNCIL, I WILL SUPPORT THE ITEM. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOUR AGAINST 19? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 20. AUTHORIZE THE SEVENTH AMENDMENT TO THE USE AGREEMENT.

[20. 26-1127A Authorized the Seventh Amendment to the Use Agreement (“Seventh Amendment”) between the City of Dallas and the Dallas Museum of Art (DMA) to enable the parties to undertake planning, design, construction, renovation, repair, replacement, and/or improvements to the DMA as further described in the Seventh Amendment - Financing: No cost consideration to the City *In alignment with Bond Implementation Program.]

DMA TO ENABLE THE PARTIES TO UNDERTAKE PLANNING, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, RENOVATION, REPAIR, REPLACEMENT AND OR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DMA AS FURTHER DESCRIBED IN THE SEVENTH AMENDMENT.

YOU DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

TAMARA WOOTEN FORSYTHE.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MAYOR. CITY MANAGER TOLBERT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS TAMARA WOOTEN. FORSYTHE AND I SERVE AS THE MARCUS ROSE FAMILY DEPUTY DIRECTOR AT THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART, WHERE I HAVE WORKED FOR OVER 25 YEARS. I'M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 20 ON YOUR AGENDA, AN ESSENTIAL STEP IN DELIVERING THE 2024 BOND PROJECTS YOU HELPED MAKE POSSIBLE.

THESE PROJECTS ARE NOT ABOUT EXPANSION OR NEW AMENITIES.

THEY ARE ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY. THEY ADDRESS CRITICAL DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, REPLACING AGING HVAC SYSTEMS, MODERNIZING FIRE PROTECTION, AND UPGRADING ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

THESE ARE THE UNSEEN SYSTEMS THAT QUIETLY SAFEGUARD OUR PRICELESS COLLECTION, OUR STAFF, AND THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VISITORS WHO WALK THROUGH OUR DOORS EACH YEAR. SIMPLY PUT, THIS IS ABOUT PROTECTING PUBLIC A PUBLIC ASSET THAT IS ENTRUSTED TO ALL OF

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TODAY'S ACTION ENSURES THAT THE FOUNDATION OF THIS CITY OWNED AND MAINTAINED FACILITY IS SOUND, SO THAT ANY FUTURE VISION FOR THE MUSEUM HAS SOMETHING STRONG AND RELIABLE TO BUILD UPON.

YOUR APPROVAL TODAY WILL ALLOW US TO FINALIZE CRITICAL CONTRACT UPDATES AND MOVE FROM PLANNING INTO ACTION WITH CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN AT THE END OF 2027. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT BROUGHT US HERE.

THE BOND OFFICE AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN NAVIGATING THE COMPLEXITIES OF THIS PROCESS, AND WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR THEM. AND TO EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP DURING THE 2024 BOND PROCESS HAS MADE THIS POSSIBLE.

THIS IS YOUR INVESTMENT IN DALLAS AT WORK. THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART IS MORE THAN A BUILDING.

IT IS A PLACE OF ACCESS, EDUCATION, INSPIRATION AND CONNECTION.

WITH FREE GENERAL ADMISSION. IT REMAINS OPEN TO EVERY RESIDENT, EVERY STUDENT, AND EVERY FAMILY.

AT THE SAME TIME, IT SERVES AS A POWERFUL ENGINE FOR CULTURAL, TOURISM AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, ANCHORING THE DALLAS ARTS DISTRICT, ONE OF THE LARGEST AND MOST VIBRANT ARTS DISTRICTS IN THE NATION.

BY SUPPORTING THIS ITEM TODAY, YOU ARE PRESERVING NOT JUST INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT OPPORTUNITY.

YOU ARE ENSURING THAT THE DMA CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE DALLAS CULTURALLY, EDUCATIONALLY AND ECONOMICALLY FOR DECADES TO COME.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, YOUR STEWARDSHIP, AND YOUR CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP.

THANK YOU. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER MENDELSOHN AND COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION? OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? WHO PULLED IT? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES IF YOU'D LIKE IT. THANK YOU. SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS. I'M SO GLAD THAT IT PASSED IN THE BOND.

AND, YOU KNOW. WOW. DEFERRED MAINTENANCE HOT TOPIC THESE DAYS.

SO MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S BEEN SUCH A PUBLIC EFFORT TO REPLACE AND, OR EXPAND THE DMA.

AND SINCE WE'RE USING TAX DOLLARS FOR THINGS LIKE HVAC AND CHILLERS IS THERE A PROVISION THAT REQUIRES THAT BUILDING TO REMAIN AT LEAST 20 YEARS. IT'S A STAFF QUESTION.

IS $20 MILLION RIGHT? CORRECT. JAYNIE. NICE ONE WITH THE BOND OFFICE.

YES, MA'AM. IT'S A $20 MILLION ITEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY.

AND THE QUESTION IS, IF THE THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE DOING THE WORK ON WILL REMAIN FOR 20 YEARS.

THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. THAT IS THE CONDITION.

WELL, I'M SORRY, I ACTUALLY NEED A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.

NOT JUST YOUR UNDERSTANDING. LIKE, DOES IT SAY IT THAT BY ACCEPTING THESE DOLLARS THAT THEY WILL KEEP THAT BUILDING FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS? I MEAN, DOES IT AFFIRMATIVELY SAY THAT? I MEAN, MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN CLARIFY THAT.

YEAH, I'D HAVE TO PULL THE CONTRACT. I'M JUST I'M JUST WORRIED THAT, YOU KNOW, FIVE, TEN YEARS FROM NOW THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE RAISED ENOUGH FUNDS TO ACTUALLY REPLACE THE ENTIRE BUILDING, AND WE WILL HAVE SQUANDERED THESE TAX DOLLARS.

AND IT'S NOT RIGHT. SO IF THEY'RE JUST ADDING ON, GOD BLESS, I HOPE THEY'RE WILDLY SUCCESSFUL.

BUT THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THAT THERE MAY NOT BE A COMMITMENT TO STAY IN THAT BUILDING FOR THE FULL AT LEAST 20 YEARS.

I THINK SOMETIMES WE TALK ABOUT 30 YEARS, BUT LET'S JUST AT LEAST ENSURE 20.

YES, MA'AM. IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH DMA, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY ANY TALK ABOUT A SHORT TERM USE OF THE BUILDING THAT AS PART OF THEIR PLANNING.

AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT IN ON ANY DISCUSSIONS ON THE EXPANSION.

BUT I MAY NEED SOME HELP WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THE EXACT TERMS. OKAY. BUT YOU NOT HAVING HAD THAT DISCUSSION IS ACTUALLY TROUBLING TO ME BECAUSE IT'S WIDELY REPORTED.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A WHOLE DESIGN COMPETITION, SO IT JUST NEEDS TO BE EXTREMELY CLEAR IN THE CONTRACT THAT BY ACCEPTING THE 20 MILLION, THEY'RE GOING TO AFFIRM THAT THAT BUILDING WILL STAY IN PLACE FOR 20 PLUS YEARS.

I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. FIRST OF ALL, THIS DOES NOT GIVE THEM THE MONEY.

IT IS THE CITY'S MONEY. IT'S THE CITY'S BUILDING.

AND SO THERE WE ARE, MENDING THE USE AGREEMENT HERE TO ALLOW THEM TO ACT AS PROJECT MANAGER.

BUT THE BUILDING REMAINS THE CITY'S BUILDING.

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WELL, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, RENOVATION, REPAIRS, REPLACEMENT AND IMPROVEMENTS AND ANY KIND OF DEMOLITION OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF WORK GOING FORWARD WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO IT'S OUR BUILDING. THEY'RE SERVING AS PROJECT MANAGER TO MAKE ALL OF THESE REPAIRS.

AND SO THERE. SO IF ONE SINGLE PRIVATE DONOR CAME FORWARD AND SAID, I WILL BUILD YOU A BRAND NEW ART MUSEUM.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEMOLISH YOUR EXISTING ART MUSEUM.

WOULD WE ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT AFTER WE STOP THERE? 20 HOURS. THEY'RE THERE. IT'S OUR BUILDING. IT'S OUR ART MUSEUM.

WOULD THE COUNCIL BE ALLOWED TO APPROVE THAT? YOU WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE DEMOLITION OF OUR OWN BUILDING.

YES. WOULD IT BE ABLE TO BE DONE IF WE HAVE PUT $20 MILLION INTO THE FACILITY? I MEAN, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT 20 YEARS FROM NOW, BUT RIGHT NOW, THIS IS ABOUT JUST THEM BEING THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR OUR BUILDING, OUR RENOVATIONS AND OUR ART MUSEUM. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, IF I CAN, JACK IRELAND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER SO IF AT ANY POINT WE PUT BOND FUNDS INTO A CITY OWNED BUILDING AND THEN LATER A DECISION IS MADE TO DEMOLISH, SELL OR DISPOSE OF A FACILITY, WE WOULD HAVE TO DEFEASE ANY DEBT. WE WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE WHOLE SO WE COULD PAY THE BONDS.

SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT A DECISION WAS MADE DOWN THE ROAD THAT THIS FACILITY WAS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND A DECISION MADE ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE OUTSTANDING DEBT.

IF THERE'S ANY DEBT OUTSTANDING AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

AND WOULD YOU IMAGINE THESE BONDS ARE 20 YEAR BONDS OR 30 YEARS? YES, MA'AM. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR THESE WERE ISSUED.

AND SO YEAH, I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR WE ARE AWAY FROM PAYING THEM OFF.

WELL, BUT YES, IT WOULD REQUIRE 20 YEARS ON THAT BOND.

OKAY. I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS HERE.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I WAS CONCERNED WHEN I HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT A POTENTIAL MOVE OR DEMOLITION.

SO I REACHED OUT TO DMA AND THERE'S THERE'S LITERALLY NO FEAR OF THAT HAPPENING.

THERE'S NO THERE'S NO TALK THAT NO ONE AT DMA KNOWS WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.

SO I WANT TO COME BACK TO THE ITEM TODAY AND WHY THIS THIS MAINTENANCE ITEM IS IMPORTANT.

WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE AN INSTITUTION LIKE THE DMA IN DALLAS.

THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 123 YEARS. THEY ARE VISITED BY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DALLASITES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING OUR CITY EVERY YEAR. AND THIS AGENDA ITEM WILL ENABLE RENOVATION, REPAIR AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE MUSEUM FACILITY.

THIS IS AT NO COST TO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.

AND THIS, TO MY COLLEAGUE'S POINT, IS ALL ABOUT THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND TAKING CARE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THE CITY OWNS, BUT IS THANKFULLY MANAGED BY SOMEONE ELSE. SO THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT WILL COME FROM A COMBINATION OF CONTRIBUTION FROM THE DMA MONEY APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN THE 2024 CITY BOND COLLABORATION, WHICH, IF WE APPROVE THIS TODAY WE WILL BE DOING, ENSURES THAT ALL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES ARE CARRIED OUT WITH APPROPRIATE ATTENTION TO COLLECTION PRESERVATION. VISITOR ACCESS, OPERATIONAL CONTINUITY AND CONSERVATION AND SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.

THE COLLABORATION IS ALSO EVIDENCE OF THE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF ART, AND IS AN IMPORTANT EXAMPLE OF OUR OF OUR SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN THE CITY AND OUR MANY COMMUNITY INSTITUTIONS THAT WE VALUE IN DALLAS.

I HOPE YOU WILL SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY.

RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER WEST'S COMMENTS. THE WHOLE REASON FOR DOING THIS IS THE VOTERS APPROVED.

THIS EXPENDITURE WAS SO THAT THE DMA WILL SURVIVE AS A USABLE BUILDING FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

SO THIS JUST I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING.

I'M QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE EXPANSION PLANS THAT WILL BE FUNDED BY PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY, NOT BY CITY FUNDS.

THEY ARE INTENDED TO CONTINUE THE USAGE OF THE CURRENT BUILDING.

SIMPLY EXPAND IT. AND SO IF THERE WAS ANY INTENT TO ABANDON THIS BUILDING, THAT WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE PUBLICLY PLANNED AND THE ARCHITECTURE DESIGN COMPETITION THAT RESULTED IN THE EXPANSION PLANS.

SO I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I FULLY SUPPORT THE DMA AND OUR NEED TO MAINTAIN THE BUILDING PROPERLY SO THAT OUR CITY ASSET CAN BE UTILIZED FOR DECADES TO COME. MR. ROTH, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO I'M IN FAVOR OF OF THE THE MOTION TO PROVIDE THESE FUNDS.

[03:20:04]

AND ABSOLUTELY WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR OUR FACILITIES.

MY OTHER ISSUE WAS, AND AGAIN, I WOULD HOPE THIS IS JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION.

IS THAT BECAUSE THESE ARE BOND FUNDS FROM TWO YEARS AGO AND THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THE WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE IS, IS THE 20 MILLION THAT WE WOULD HOPEFULLY BE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE FUNDS TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE DOING IN VIEW OF PRICE INCREASES AND THE AND THE EXTENT, THE EXTENT OF WHAT WAS BEING DONE THERE.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOND OFFICE OR WHOEVER IS THE SUPERVISORY OFFICE TO HANDLE THAT, TO PLEASE TRY TO BE AS COST EFFECTIVE AS YOU CAN IN GETTING AS MUCH BANG FOR YOUR BUCK ON THE 20 MILLION THAT'S GOING TO BE EXPENDED.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE DMA TO TO COOPERATE AND BE PROACTIVE IN HELPING YOU IN THAT IN THAT PROCESS.

AND JUST TO ADDRESS ONE POINT, SO THESE DOLLARS WERE IDENTIFIED IN 2024, BUT THEY WERE ESCALATED TO 2026.

SO WE'RE FAIRLY COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE'RE AT.

THINGS CAN CHANGE TOMORROW, BUT BUT WE ARE PRETTY, PRETTY HAPPY WITH THE LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED AND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE PROJECT.

ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO BE GONE FOR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 20. SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED. EYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 25. AUTHORIZE ONE PAYMENT OF OUTSTANDING INVOICES TO DILWORTH RESTORATION,

[25. 26-1180A Authorize (1) payment of outstanding invoices to Dalworth Restoration, LLC for emergency water mitigation and content removal services resulting from the January 2026 Freeze, in an estimated amount of $392,941.51; and (2) payment of an invoice to Dalworth Restoration, LLC for content storage and move-back services in an estimated amount of $63,999.48, also resulting from the January 2026 Freeze - Total estimated amount of $456,940.99 - Financing: Capital Construction Fund ($391,940.99) and General Fund ($65,000.00) (subject to annual appropriations) *In alignment with Capital Improvement Program.]

IN AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $192,941.51, AND TWO PAYMENT OF AN.

OF AN INVOICE TO DOLWORTH RESTORATION, LLC FOR CONTENT STORAGE AND MOVE, MOVE, MOVE BACK SERVICES AND AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $63,999.48. ALSO RESULTING FROM THE JANUARY 2026 FREEZE.

TOTAL ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $456,940.99. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

IS THERE A MOTION ON ITEM 25? ALL RIGHT. I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I'M I REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS IT WAS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE COST THAT WE'RE APPROVING HERE ARE ONLY PARTIAL PAYMENTS FOR THE OVERALL DAMAGE THAT OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF THE FREEZE, AND THAT ALTHOUGH WE ARE ALLOCATING 400,000 PLUS DOLLARS FOR CLEANUP COSTS, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL SIGNIFICANT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

AND THAT I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THE EXTRA COST AND THAT THEY REFLECT AN ISSUE WITH OUR RISK MANAGEMENT SITUATION, WHICH HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE.

I AM IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE EXPENDITURE, BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST ONE PART OF THE OVERALL CLAIM PROCESS OF THE DAMAGES THAT OCCURRED AS A RESULT OF, OF, OF THESE CASUALTY INCIDENCES.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON, FOR OR AGAINST? I'M 25. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. LET'S KEEP GOING. AGENDA ITEM 26.

[26. 26-1208A Authorize a five-year cooperative purchasing agreement for licenses, training, maintenance, and support of a vendor hosted short-term rental and hotel occupancy tax system for the City Controller’s Office with DLT Solutions, LLC through the Omnia Partners agreement - Not to exceed $731,073.00 - Financing: Convention and Event Services Fund (subject to annual appropriations)]

THROUGH THE OMNIA PARTNERS AGREEMENT NOT TO EXCEED $731,073.

THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN AND COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON 26 AGENDA ITEM 26.

ALL RIGHT, I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? EITHER PEOPLE WHO PULLED IT MENDELSOHN OR BAZALDUA? YES. CHAIRWOMAN MENZEL, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. JACK, I KNOW I'VE ALREADY ASKED YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

[03:25:07]

AND IF YOU CAN SHARE WITH US THE REVENUE RECEIVED, OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T COME TO THE GENERAL FUND.

BUT IF YOU CAN SHARE WITH US THE DOLLARS INVOLVED.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. JACK GARLAND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AS MISS MENDELSOHN MENTIONED, IT IS A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FOR $731,000, $127,000 THE FIRST YEAR. THE SOFTWARE AND SERVICE ALLOWS US TO COLLECT ABOUT $107.6 MILLION IN HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. THAT WAS THE AMOUNT RECEIVED LAST YEAR.

OF THAT AMOUNT. IT GOES PART OF IT GOES TO THE CONVENTION CENTER PART OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

SO CONVENTION CENTER RETAINS 67.4%. VISIT DALLAS RECEIVES 17.6%, AND THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE GETS 15% OF THAT BASE 7% HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. OF THE 2% ADDITIONAL THAT WAS APPROVED UNDER BRIMER.

OF COURSE, THAT IS FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION, 80% WITH 20% GOING TO THE FAIR PARK VENUES.

SO AS FAR AS WHAT THE COST IS, IT'S THE FOR THE CONTRACT, $730,000 OVER FIVE YEARS THAT'S BEING INCURRED BY THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE CONVENTION CENTER, VISIT DALLAS BENEFIT FROM IT, AS WELL AS THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

SO CAN YOU GIVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS RECEIVED LAST YEAR FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER? VISIT DALLAS ARTS AND BRIMER SO FAR? LAST YEAR I DID.

OF THE 15% THAT GOES TO ARTS AND CULTURE WAS ABOUT $13 MILLION, 12.6.

AND THEN WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET 13.4 THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE BEING THE SHARE THAT GOES TO THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.

OF COURSE, IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE THE ACTUAL THE PERCENT THEY GET.

AND DO YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR VISIT DALLAS IN THE CONVENTION CENTER? AND LET ME SEE. DO YOU KNOW ROSA? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.

SO LAST YEAR, VISIT DALLAS WAS APPROXIMATELY.

AND I'LL HAVE TO GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER, APPROXIMATELY $21 MILLION.

AND THE CONVENTION CENTER WAS APPROXIMATELY, I BELIEVE IT WAS IT WAS 53, BUT I'LL HAVE TO GET YOU THAT BY MEMO OR EMAIL THE EXACT NUMBERS. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. BAZALDUA YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 26.

THANK YOU. SO THIS IS A BASICALLY THE SAME SYSTEM WE'VE ALREADY BEEN USING.

IS THAT ACCURATE? YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. THE CURRENT NAME OR THE NAME WITH THIS NEW CONTRACT IS DLT SOLUTIONS.

BUT IT'S FORMALLY GOV OSS, WHICH WAS FORMERLY MUNI REP.

SO IT'S THE SAME SYSTEM. IT'S JUST CHANGED NAMES A COUPLE OF THREE TIMES NOW.

SO THIS IS STILL THE SAME PROCESS FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL OPERATORS TO VOLUNTARILY PAY THEIR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES.

YES SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. SO SINCE IT'S A CONTINUATION OF THE SYSTEM THE USERS SHOULD NOT SEE ANY INTERRUPTION.

IF THEY ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED THEY ARE STILL REGISTERED.

THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THAT. SO THE USERS REGISTER AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL OR AS A HOTEL VOLUNTARILY.

AND THEN THEY VOLUNTARILY REMIT WHEN WE NOTICE OR WORK WITH THE VENDOR THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE OF NONPAYMENT, THEN THERE'S A PROCESS OF NOTIFYING SEEKING PAYMENTS.

AND WITH THERE BEING NO FORMAL REGISTRATION TO, TO ACTUALLY BE LICENSED OR PERMITTED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL, THIS WOULD BE THE ONLY WAY THE CITY WOULD BE OBSERVING THEM AS AN OPERATOR OF SHORT TERM RENTALS.

YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 26? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EYES HAVE IT. THANKS AGAIN.

[03:30:11]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AGENDA ITEM SEVEN.

[7. 26-1226A Authorize a Chapter 380 economic development grant agreement and all other necessary documents (“Agreement”) with Meadow Sycamore, LP, a Texas limited partnership, and/or its affiliates collectively, in an amount not to exceed $13,500,000.00 (“Grant”) in consideration of The Meadow Project, a mixed-income, transit-oriented, and permanent supportive multi-family residential development project on approximately 2.3 acres of real property addressed as 8130 Meadow Road (“Property”), in accordance with the Economic Development Incentive Policy - Total not to exceed $13,500,000.00 - Financing: Economic Development (G) Fund (2024 General Obligation Bond Fund) ($13,500,000.00) (subject to annual appropriations) *In alignment with Economic Development Incentive Policy.]

AGREEMENT WITH MEADOW SYCAMORE LP, A TEXAS LIMITED PARTNERSHIP, AND OR ITS AFFILIATES COLLECTIVELY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $13,500,000 GRANT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE MEADOW PROJECT, A MIXED INCOME, TRANSIT ORIENTED AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT ON APPROXIMATELY 2.3 ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY ADDRESSED AS 8130 MEADOW ROAD PROPERTY, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE POLICY.

INCENTIVE POLICY. TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $13,500,000.

YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, THE HONORABLE PHILIP KINGSTON.

OKAY. I DON'T SEE HIM. MR. KINGSTON IS NOT PRESENT.

THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED, AND I'M SORRY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO IDENTIFY OR ANNOUNCE A CLARIFICATION TO THIS ITEM.

IT'S CLARIFYING TO REMOVE LANGUAGE SUBJECT TO ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS.

MR. MAYOR, THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

IS THERE A MOTION? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

MR. ROTH, YOU PULLED IT. SO YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE TO THE APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION, BUT I DID WANT TO ALERT MY COLLEAGUES THAT THE OVERALL COST OF THIS PROJECT IS $31.6 MILLION. IT INVOLVES 75 UNITS, WHICH IS WHICH WILL MAKE IT AN AVERAGE COST OF $421,000 PER UNIT.

THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE FUNDING THROUGH, THROUGH OUR GRANT PROGRAM HERE AT $13,000,500, $500,000 REPRESENTS 43% OF THE OVERALL PROJECT COSTS.

I'M, THIS IS A VALUABLE PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF THE PROJECT IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS AN EMBLEMATIC OF OUR BEING VERY GENEROUS IN SPENDING MONIES THAT SHOULD BE ALLOCATED IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO MORE PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S FUNDED.

IT'LL BE IT'S A IT'S GOOD FOR THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT, BUT THE COSTS ARE REALLY VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT HERE.

AND I WOULD USE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE IN OUR FUTURE, THE LIBERATIONS TO DETERMINE WHETHER PROJECTS ARE COST EFFECTIVE. AND I WOULD ASK THAT OUR UNDERWRITERS FOR THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE GIVING US ADVICE.

LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS MORE CLOSELY IN THE FUTURE.

BUT I AM, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO I BELIEVE THIS THIS PROJECT IS IN A GOOD LOCATION, BUT I DO ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THE THE FUNDING MECHANISM.

THE PROJECT IS $31 MILLION. TOTAL BOND ACT ALLOCATIONS OF 13.5 MILLION.

ABOUT 43% OF THE BOND FUNDING COMES DOWN TO ABOUT 180 000 PER UNIT.

OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON COME CLOSER TO 16,000 AND $50,000.

AND SO IF STAFF CAN JUST COME DOWN AND HELP US UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT AND LEVEL OF FUNDING THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING FOR THIS PROJECT.

I GUESS IT'S THE AFTERNOON NOW. GOOD AFTERNOON.

KEVIN SPATH, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MAYOR PRO TEM, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE THE DETAILS OF THE THE DATA YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

BUT THIS PROJECT IF YOU WERE TO BREAK IT OUT FROM A METRIC STANDPOINT THE CITY SUBSIDY OF 13.5 MILLION AGAINST THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS. IT'S LIKE YOU SAID, 180,000.

OTHER COMPARABLE PROJECTS THAT ARE CONVERSIONS OF EXISTING BUILDINGS FROM OTHER USES INTO MULTIFAMILY.

[03:35:02]

SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE DATA THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED.

SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW IT'S NOT ON THE, ON THE AGENDA, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE WEST END LOFTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S $50,000 PER UNIT. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHERE YOU'RE COMING, COMING UP WITH THAT NUMBER.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AGENDA ITEM SEVEN.

THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS ABOUT IT BEING A TRANSIT ORIENTED DESIGN.

CLEARLY IT BACKS UP TO THE DART RAIL, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ACTUALLY A STATION AT MEADOW.

CORRECT? NO, BUT IT'S 1000FT FROM WALNUT HILL STATION.

THAT'S WALKABLE. WHAT IS THE REMAINING BALANCE FOR THE HOUSING INCENTIVE? OR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE.

I'M SORRY. PROP G OKAY. PROP G FROM 2024 BOND PROGRAM.

THAT WAS A TOTAL ALLOCATION BY THE VOTERS OF 72.3 MILLION BEFORE TODAY'S ITEM.

THERE'S BEEN THREE PROJECTS APPROVED THAT ALLOCATES A TOTAL OF 27,130,000.

AND SO BEFORE TODAY'S ITEM, THE BALANCE IS IN 169,000.

SO IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO BE APPROVED AND THIS THREE, 13.5 MILLION WERE TO BE ALLOCATED, THERE WOULD BE A REMAINING 31.7 MILLION. SO I WAS JUST HANDED A SPREADSHEET AND IT'S GOT THE 2024 ECO DEV PROJECT TRACKER, AND IT'S SHOWING WEST END LOFTS. AND THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE OF CITY BOND FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT WAS UNDER 7.5%.

AND THEN PALLADIUM BUCKNER STATION UNDER 5% RIVULET 30%.

THE MEADOW PROJECT 42.59. YEAH. NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT HIS QUESTION WAS AND WHAT YOU'RE I THINK REFERRING TO WEST END LOFTS AND PALLADIUM, BUCKNER STATION AND EVEN RIVULET HAD OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS IN ADDITION TO THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM.

YEAH, BUT THIS IS A VERY LARGE PERCENTAGE. IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO 42% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT COST, IT'S PRETTY COMPARABLE TO SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH WITH THAT. AND UNLESS YOU WANT TO JUST SAY ALL OUR PSC AND HSC TAX ABATEMENTS.

IF I MIGHT, COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE NUMBERS IS THAT THERE'S A COMPARISON OF BOND FUNDING PER DEAL.

BUT REMEMBER, THESE OTHER DEALS ALSO HAD TIF FUNDING AND OTHER CITY SOURCES.

SO THE CITY INCENTIVE PER UNIT IS PROBABLY VERY COMPARABLE.

BUT IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE BOND FUNDING PIECE, I THINK YOU'LL GET A SKEWED NUMBER.

BUT AGAIN, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE NUMBERS YOU'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COMPARE.

SO IF IT IS COMPARABLE WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. LIKE IT'S NOT IN THE BACKUP FOR THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA WHERE IT SHOWS THAT.

AND I JUST THINK THERE'S A BIG QUESTION ABOUT HOW MUCH IS THE CITY PAYING TO PRODUCE THIS HOUSING.

UNDERSTOOD. AND SO EVERY DEAL GOES THROUGH THE SAME UNDERWRITING PROCESS.

THEY HAVE TO MAXIMIZE THEIR PRIVATE DEBT, MAXIMIZE THE EQUITY CONTRIBUTION.

AND THEN IF THERE'S STILL A GAP, THEN THAT'S WHERE CITY TOOLS CAN COME IN AND HELP FILL THE GAP.

AND SO THAT NUMBER WILL DIFFER PER DEAL DEPENDING ON IF THE LAND WAS DONATED OR IF IT'S PAID FOR THE DEPTH OF THE SUBSIDY ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOW AFFORDABLE THE UNITS ARE, AND HOW MUCH RENT IS FOREGONE, WHAT SERVICES ARE BEING PROVIDED.

EVERY DEAL IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND SO THE NUMBER WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. WELL, AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, WE NEED TO BE DOING A VERY PROACTIVE JOB IN REACHING OUT TO DEVELOPERS IN THIS AREA, SMALL, MEDIUM, BUT ESPECIALLY OUR HIGHER LEVEL DEVELOPERS THAT CAN VERY COST EFFECTIVELY TURN OUT UNITS THAT ARE NOT WORKING WITH THE CITY RIGHT NOW.

AND WE NEED THEM TO BECAUSE WE ARE SUBSIDIZING THIS AT A RATE THAT'S NOT COMPETITIVE.

AND WE NEED TO HELP THE BIG BOYS UNDERSTAND HOW TO WORK BETTER WITH THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN GET A BETTER DEAL FOR OUR TAXPAYERS.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

[03:40:10]

SO I'M WONDERING IF I CAN WAIT TILL AFTER SHE'S ON BECAUSE SHE SHE WAS HAVING TECHNOLOGY.

SHE'S ON, BUT SHE CAN'T. SHE CAN'T, I DON'T THINK WE CAN'T HEAR HER RIGHT NOW.

SO DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT? I WILL ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS OF STAFF AND MAYBE JUST GIVE HER A COUPLE MORE MINUTES TO TRY.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. YEAH, SURE. GO AHEAD.

KEVIN. I THINK THESE, THESE QUESTIONS ARE, ARE INTERESTING.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DIG INTO THE NUMBERS ON, ON ALL OF THESE DEALS JUST SO IT'S TRANSPARENT AND CLEAR.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY STAFF SUPPORTS THIS? AND ONE THING THAT I DO WANT YOU TO TOUCH ON IS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE GOING TO BE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING UNITS IN THIS, WHICH WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE IN SOME OF THESE OTHER DEALS. YEAH, SURE.

SO THE REASONS ARE MANY. I MEAN, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT, BUT BECAUSE IT EFFECTIVELY DELIVERS DEEPLY AFFORDABLE RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO A PART OF THE CITY WHERE IT'S NOT EASY TO DELIVER DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS.

PLAIN AND SIMPLE. THIS IS A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA.

IT'S MIXED INCOME. IT WILL DELIVER ALL 100% OF THE UNITS BETWEEN 30 AND 60%.

AM I THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE LATEST BRIEFINGS THAT THIS BODY HAS HAD ABOUT HOUSING SHOWS THAT THE CITY IS DEEPLY UNDERSERVED AND UNDERSUPPLIED AT UNDER 60%. THIS PROJECT DELIVERS THAT.

IT'S ALSO IN AN ELIGIBLE CENSUS TRACT UNDER THE WALKER CONSENT DECREE, WHICH DATES BACK TO THE LATE 1980S.

SO THIS PROJECT HAS ALREADY SECURED 38 WALKER VOUCHERS, WHICH ARE PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS THAT CAN ONLY BE USED BY BY BLACK TENANTS IN A WALKER ELIGIBLE AREA, WHICH IS AKIN TO A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S WALKABLE TO THE DART STATION.

IT'S SURROUNDED BY MEDICAL FACILITIES AND HOSPITALS AND PHARMACIES AND FULL SERVICE GROCERY STORES.

THIS PROJECT RANKS VERY STRONGLY WITH THE STATE.

THE TDHCA BOARD APPROVED THE $2 MILLION OF CREDITS LAST CYCLE.

THIS PROJECT RANKED THIRD OUT OF 14 APPLICATIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL.

AND THEN ALL THE OTHER SUPPORTIVE SERVICES THAT WILL BE OFFERED, FOCUSING ON ON TENANTS WITH AIDS AND HIV, BUT NOT RESTRICTED TO THOSE TYPES OF TENANTS.

SO FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, WE SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. AND THEN IF I CAN, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ASK MR. CROUCH TO COME DOWN HERE AND EXPLAIN, LIKE THE DEBT PORTION OF HOW THIS WORKS AND WHY THE SUBSIDY IS SO HIGH.

ZACH. ROCHDALE SYCAMORE DEVELOPMENT. SO I THINK THAT THERE IS ONE BIG PIECE OF THIS THAT'S MISSING IS THAT THIS IS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, 100% PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND WHEN YOU APPLY FOR TAX CREDITS TO TDHCA FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE ON DEBT. AND THAT'S A LONG STANDING RULE BECAUSE I BELIEVE A LOT OF NON-PROFITS WENT INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, TOOK ON A LOT OF DEBT, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF FORECLOSURES. SO THE REASON THE SUBSIDY IS AS HIGH AS IT IS, IS UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE ON ADDITIONAL DEBT.

SO IF YOU COMPARE THIS PROPERTY TO THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE FUNDED BY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND LIHTC OUR PER UNIT SUBSIDY FALLS WELL IN LINE OF THAT. AND YOU KNOW, ANOTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT IS THAT IN THE ENTIRETY OF DALLAS COUNTY, THERE'S ONLY ONE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DEAL THAT IS FUNDED BY LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS AT THIS TIME FOR 45 UNITS.

WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO HOUSTON OR AUSTIN, THEY EACH HAVE 10 TO 13 DIFFERENT PROPERTIES WITH 1500 UNITS THAT ARE LIHTC AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SET ASIDE. SO THESE, THESE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DEALS, BECAUSE OF THESE UNDERWRITING RULES DO REQUIRE A GREAT DEAL OF SUBSIDY.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT TDCA AND I'VE LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DEAL THAT'S IN THE INVENTORY.

THE RANGE OF PER UNIT SUBSIDY GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO $345,000 PER UNIT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WITH SOME GREAT NONPROFIT PARTNERS AND AID SERVICES OF DALLAS.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THOSE TDHCA UNDERWRITING RULES DO REQUIRE A HIGHER SUBSIDY THAN YOU MIGHT BE USED TO SEEING.

THANK YOU. AND QUICK QUESTION. THIS IS RENOVATING A NURSING FACILITY, CORRECT?

[03:45:03]

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY COMBINING EACH TWO ROOMS INTO ONE ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT WITH A FULL KITCHEN AND A BATHROOM, WHICH THERE IS A LOT OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

IN DALLAS THAT'S MORE SRO ORIENTED. SO THESE ARE ACTUAL APARTMENT UNITS WITH FULL KITCHENS AND BATHROOMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM MAYOR.

CAN I. SORRY. CAN I USE THE REST OF MY TIME FOR COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS'S STATEMENT? ARE YOU SURE YOU CAN? OF COURSE. SORRY. THANK YOU.

OFTENTIMES, WHEN WE DISCUSS PLACEMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY, THERE IS CONCERN EXPRESSED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE CITY VERSUS THE NORTH. TODAY, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MUCH NEEDED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, NOT ONLY TO DALLAS BUT TO THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR CITY.

AS MISTER MENTIONED, THIS IS A RENOVATION AND CONVERSION FROM A VACANT NURSING FACILITY.

AS ALSO MENTIONED THERE, THE, THE WALKER VOUCHERS WILL COME INTO PLAY HERE.

THERE ARE 38 OF THOSE FROM A 1980S CONSENT DECREE THAT ARE RESERVED FOR, BLACK RESIDENTS FOR LOW OR MODERATE INCOME BACKGROUNDS. THIS IS 1000FT FROM A DART STATION AND IS CLOSE TO MEDICAL FACILITIES AND GROCERY STORES.

AND SOME OF THE OTHER PARTS I CAN'T READ SO WELL, BUT I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DOES SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON AGAINST AGENDA ITEM SEVEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THAT CONCLUDES YOUR PULLED ITEMS. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 38.

[38. 26-1220A Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)]

YOU ONLY HAVE ONE NOMINEE FOR APPOINTMENT. NOMINEE FOR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTMENT TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, CASEY ROGERS. THE SECOND IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCILMEMBER BLACKMON TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

THIS. THIS IS YOUR NOMINEE? MR. MAYOR, IS THERE A MOTION? IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. CONGRATULATIONS TO THE NOMINEE.

NEXT ITEM, AGENDA ITEM 39. CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO ONE.

[39. 26-1227A Consideration of a resolution directing the City Manager to: (1) utilize contingency reserve funds to procure a consultant to determine the amount calculated under Dallas City Code Section 51A-4.704(a)(1)(D)(i) for the uses located at 2600 Singleton Boulevard and 7910 South Central Expressway; (2) not later than 30 days after the consultant determines the amount under Dallas City Code Section 51A-4.704(a)(1)(D)(i), brief a city council committee and schedule an item for a regular city council voting agenda to consider adding the determined amount to the fund created by Dallas City Code Section 51A-4.704(a)(3); (3) transfer funds in an amount not to exceed $200,000.00 from the General Fund Contingency Reserve Fund to the General Fund; and (4) increase appropriations in an amount not to exceed $200,000.00 in Planning & Development from General Fund Contingency Reserve Fund - Not to exceed $200,000.00 - Financing: General Fund Contingency Reserve Fund (see Fiscal Information) (via Councilmembers Cadena, Bazaldua, West, Gracey, Blackmon) *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

SECTION 51-4.704A1D1 OF. FOR THE USES LOCATED AT 2600 SINGLETON BOULEVARD AND 7910 SOUTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY. TWO NOT LATER THAN 30 DAYS AFTER THE CONSULTANT DETERMINES THE AMOUNT UNDER DALLAS CITY CODE, SECTION 51-4.70481D1. BRIEF A CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND SCHEDULE AN ITEM FOR A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL VOTING AGENDA TO CONSIDER ADDING THE DETERMINED AMOUNT TO THE FUND CREATED BY THE DALLAS CITY CODE.

SECTION 51, A 4.704 A THREE. THREE. TRANSFER FUNDS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $200,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY RESERVE FUND TO THE GENERAL FUND AND FOR INCREASED APPROPRIATIONS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $200,000 IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FROM GENERAL FUND.

CONTINGENCY RESERVE FUND NOT TO EXCEED $200,000.

YOU DO HAVE 45 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

I WILL CALL SPEAKERS BY GROUPS OF 15. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, I WILL ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST FEW FIRST THREE ROWS HERE IN THE CENTER SECTION. JENNIFER, OLIVER AND MISS ELEVATOR IS HERE, YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM.

JASON WHITE, SHALONDRA GALLIMORE. CLAUDIA FOWLER, JAYNIE CISNEROS.

DOLORES BURNS. ROSA CISNEROS, A Z. ZION. JOSE RODRIGUEZ, EVELYN MAYO, ALOP DAVE, NORMA NELSON, PAULINE. LOGAN, RICHARD JENSEN, AND ESMERALDA.

ZUNIGA. ZUNIGA. MISS. ELEVATOR. YOU MAY BEGIN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JENNIFER OLIVEIRA. I'M TAMAKO'S CHIEF COMPLIANCE OFFICER.

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AND I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT AIR QUALITY IN JOPPY IS OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE.

BUT THE AGENDA ITEM ITSELF ISN'T FOCUSED ON AIR QUALITY AND JOPPY GENERALLY, IT'S TARGETED TO A SINGLE FACILITY TIMCO IF IT WERE ABOUT AIR QUALITY MORE GENERALLY. OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE LOOKING AT ALL SORTS OF POTENTIAL EMISSION SOURCES, FROM HIGHWAY TRAFFIC TO OTHER INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY TO EVEN THE LANDFILL, WHICH IS JUST TWO MILES UPWIND OF, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT AGAIN, INSTEAD OF JUST LOOKING AT TIMCO. AND SO WITH THAT FOCUS, THE QUESTION REALLY FOR THIS POTENTIAL AMORTIZATION PROCESS CANNOT BE FOCUSED ON AIR QUALITY GENERALLY, BUT INSTEAD HAS TO BE FOCUSED ON THE QUESTION OF WHETHER TIMCO IS IMPACTING AIR QUALITY CONCERNS IN JOPPY.

TO ANSWER THAT, TIMCO INSTALLED IN 2019 FOR EPA GRADE MONITORS AROUND OUR FENCE LINE.

BECAUSE WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE DATA OURSELF, WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER WE WERE IMPACTING AMBIENT PARTICULATE LEVELS WITH NOW MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OF DATA AND WITH THE HELP OF AIR MONITORING AND AND AIR QUALITY EXPERTS, WE CAN SAY THAT WE BELIEVE THAT DATA SHOWS NO MEANINGFUL CORRELATION BETWEEN TIMCO OPERATIONS AND AMBIENT PARTICULATE LEVELS. THAT CONCLUSION IS ALSO UNDERSCORED BY BASIC WEATHER PATTERNS.

PREVAILING WINDS IN THE AREA BLOW NOT SORT OF FROM TIMCO TO JOPPY, BUT ACTUALLY BLOW AWAY FROM JOPPY.

90% OF THE TIME, MEANING THAT 90% OF THE TIME, THERE'S NO MECHANISM FOR ANYTHING FROM THE JOPPY FACILITY TO EVEN REACH ANYTHING FROM THE TIMCO FACILITY TO EVEN REACH JOPPY. OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE STORY.

THIS IS ALSO SORT OF ABOUT THE COST OF THE CITY.

THE EVALUATION EFFORT. OF COURSE. I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT IT WOULD COST. TIMCO DID DO ITS OWN EVALUATION, AND UNDER THE NEW TEXAS LAW AND ALL THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES OF COSTS THAT IT PROVIDES FOR BUSINESSES BEING FORCED TO CLOSE, WE ESTIMATE THAT COST TO BE NOW OVER HALF $1 BILLION.

THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JASON WHITE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JASON WHITE. I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE TIMCO DALLAS LOCATION.

TODAY I AM. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT PEOPLE, AND MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE SEATED BEHIND ME WEARING BLACK SHIRTS TODAY REPRESENTING TAMKO.

FOR NEARLY 100. FOR NEARLY A HUNDRED OF OUR EMPLOYEES AT OUR DALLAS PLANT, THIS IS NOT AN ABSTRACT POLICY DISCUSSION.

THIS IS ABOUT THEIR LIVELIHOODS. THESE AREN'T JUST JOBS FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS.

THEY ARE THEIR CAREERS. OUR OPERATIONS TEAM MEMBERS, ON AVERAGE, MAKE ABOUT $90,000 A YEAR, WITH STARTING WAGES AT JUST OVER $30 AN HOUR.

AT THAT KIND OF MONEY, OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ABLE TO RAISE FAMILIES, BUILD STABILITY AND PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.

THE PEOPLE WHO WORK AT OUR PLANT ARE FATHERS, MOTHERS AND MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS COMMUNITY.

WE'VE WORKED HARD TO CREATE A WORKPLACE WHERE SAFETY IS A TOP PRIORITY.

ONE OF THE CLEAREST SIGNS OF THAT IS THAT ABOUT 40% OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE RECRUITED THEIR OWN FAMILY MEMBERS TO COME AND WORK ALONGSIDE THEM.

SO PEOPLE DON'T RECRUIT THEIR FAMILY INTO AN ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY DON'T TRUST, AND THEY DON'T RECRUIT THEIR FAMILY TO WORK IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY BELIEVE IS UNSAFE.

SO JUST AS IMPORTANT AS WHO WE ARE BEYOND THE PLANT, WE'RE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

TIMCO DOESN'T JUST WRITE CHECKS. OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR LEADERSHIP SHOW UP TO SUPPORT LOCAL GP EVENTS.

OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, TIMCO HAS ALSO CONTRIBUTED MORE THAN $250,000 TO GP SPECIFIC PROGRAMS. THESE ARE ACTS OF SHARED RESPONSIBILITY IN A COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE PROUD TO BE A PART OF.

THIS ISN'T NEW FOR US AT TIMCO. THIS IS WHO WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN.

SO CLOSING THIS PLANT WOULD PUT NEARLY 100 WELL-PAYING JOBS AT RISK, ELIMINATE TENS OF MILLIONS IN ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, AND COST THE CITY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE.

THE LIVELIHOODS OF THE 100 EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE IN THE BROADER IMPACT THAT WE HAVE ON, ON, ON THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I JUST HAVE A POINT OF INFORMATION, PLEASE. SURE. THE ITEM ITSELF IS FOR APPRAISED VALUES.

SPEAKS NOTHING TO AMORTIZATION, AND SPEAKS NOTHING TO THE CLOSING OF ANY BUSINESS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THE COMMENTS SHOULD BE TAILORED AS SUCH.

THAT IS A VALID POINT. BUT AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC, WE TEND TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE MORE LATITUDE ON TOPICS OF GERMANENESS THAN WE DO THESE TRAINED PROFESSIONAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO I WILL BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR POINT, BUT ALSO RESPECT THE FACT THAT FOLKS HAVE BEEN HERE ALL DAY TO SAY SOMETHING.

AND I'M GOING TO, UNLESS IT'S WILDLY OFF TOPIC, I'M JUST GOING TO WARN YOU THAT I'M GOING TO PROBABLY LET A LOT OF IT GO.

OKAY. BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO RAISE THE SAME POINT OF ORDER IF THERE'S ANOTHER PRESIDING OFFICER TO RAISE IT WITH.

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MY NAME IS ANDREA GALLIMORE, AND I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY, NOT AS AN ADVOCATE OR AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT, BUT A FOURTH GENERATION DESCENDANT OF JOPPY. WITH ME TODAY ARE BOTH THE THIRD AND FIFTH GENERATIONS OF MY FAMILY STANDING BEHIND ME WHILE SITTING BEHIND ME.

WE ARE HERE AS RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS. NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.

RECENTLY, 140 SIGNATURES FROM JOPPY RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS WERE SUBMITTED TO THIS COUNCIL REGARDING THIS VERY ITEM.

I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WAS AN ORGANIZED CAMPAIGN AND NOT AUTHENTIC.

LET ME BE CLEAR. THERE IS NOTHING MORE AUTHENTIC THAN THE VOICES OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND RAISE THEIR FAMILIES IN A COMMUNITY EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I HAVE SOME MORE OF THEM WITH ME HERE TODAY. WE ARE ASKING YOU, RESPECTFULLY, NOT TO INVEST $200,000 INTO AN AMORTIZATION PROCESS THAT IS STILL IN PRELIMINARY STAGES, AND BY ALL REALISTIC MEASURES, IS NEITHER FEASIBLE NOR PRACTICAL.

THE COST TO CLOSE THE FACILITY WOULD REACH INTO THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THAT IS NOT A RESPONSIBLE OR REALISTIC PATH FORWARD.

MEANWHILE, JOPPA HAS A DOCUMENTED NEEDS INVENTORY LIST RIGHT NOW WHERE THOSE FUNDS COULD BE PUT TO IMMEDIATE AND MEANINGFUL USE FOR RESIDENTS.

JUST TWO MILES SOUTH OF JOPPA SITS THE MCCOMAS BLUFF LEE-ENFIELD OWNED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THAT IS OUR PROBLEM. THAT IS THE ISSUE DIRECTLY IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY.

INSTEAD, OUTSIDE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS BROUGHT IN BY LEADERSHIP HAVE SHIFTED FOCUS AWAY FROM THE TRUE SOURCES OF CONCERN, CREATING CONFUSION, DIVISION, AND UNNECESSARY TENSION WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ARE ASKING FOR ALIGNMENT, NOT DISTRACTION.

TIMCO FOR MANY YEARS HAS BEEN A LIFELINE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FILLING CRITICAL GAPS AND ENSURING THAT ESSENTIAL NEEDS WERE MET WHEN NO OTHER RESOURCES WERE AVAILABLE. JOPPA MAY HAVE 99 PROBLEMS, BUT TIMCO IS NOT ONE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CLAUDIA FOWLER. FOWLER WILL BE VIRTUAL.

MISS FOWLER. MISS FOWLER, CAN YOU.

ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? I'LL MOVE. LET ME MOVE ON.

I'LL COME BACK TO MISS FOWLER. JAYNIE CISNEROS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. TODAY'S ACTION ALONE WILL NOT SHUT DOWN ANY PLANT.

BUT YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP TO HIRE A CONSULTANT AND UNDERSTAND THE TRUE COST OF DOING SO.

THAT IS A REASONABLE, RESPONSIBLE ACTION. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS DECISION CARRIES FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION.

BUT YEARS AGO, BEFORE SB 929, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PATH WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

OUR FORMER D6 LEADERSHIP FAILED US WHEN WE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR THE AMORTIZATION OF GAF.

BUT PLEASE LISTEN TO US NOW. I LIVE 330FT FROM GAF.

THE FUMES COMING FROM THE FACTORY NEGATIVELY IMPACT ME AND MY NEIGHBORS.

IT MAKES US PHYSICALLY SICK. WE BROUGHT YOU DATA RESEARCH PUBLISHED STUDIES 311 COMPLAINTS, PETITIONS, TESTIMONIES, AND PUBLIC COMMENTS. WHAT DO YOU NEED IN ORDER TO PRIORITIZE OUR HEALTH AND THE POLLUTION COMING OUT OF GAF DOESN'T JUST AFFECT THOSE LIVING NEXT TO IT, IT HARMS PEOPLE WAITING FOR THE BUS, GOING TO WORK, CHILDREN WALKING TO SCHOOL, FAMILIES WAITING THEIR TURN AT THE FOOD PANTRY LINES, AND CONGREGATIONS TRYING TO GATHER OUTDOORS, TRYING TO GATHER SAFELY OUTDOORS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH AND A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

MOVE THIS PROCESS AND TIMELINE FORWARD WITH URGENCY.

DELAYS AND NUMEROUS CITY PROCESSES HAVE ALREADY COST MY COMMUNITY ENOUGH.

PLEASE DON'T DELAY ANY FURTHER. THIS MAY BE ONE OF YOUR MANY AGENDA ITEMS, BUT FOR US RESIDENTS, THIS IS. OUR LIVES SHOW THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL IS COMMITTED TOWARDS A BETTER, CLEANER DALLAS FOR ALL OF OUR FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DOLORES BURNS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS LEWIS BURNS IN DISTRICT SIX.

AND I STAY ACROSS FROM GAF AND IT'S REALLY A HEALTH PROBLEM.

I HAVE COPD NOW, ASTHMA, AND IT'S NOT A GOOD ENVIRONMENT.

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I DON'T LET THEM STAY OUTSIDE LONG. IT'S A PARK ACROSS THE STREET.

IT IS VERY, VERY SERIOUS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO HOME TO LIVE IN THIS MENTAL PLACE.

IN THESE COUPLE YEARS. THAT IS TOO LONG. TOO LONG FOR US.

AND I'M A 73 YEAR OLD WOMAN LIVING IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S TERRIBLE. IT IS VERY TERRIBLE. AND I'LL BE GLAD WHEN THIS SITUATION END.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ROSA CISNEROS.

BUENAS TARDES. MI NOMBRE ES ROSA CISNEROS Y ESTOY AQUI PARA Q ES.

PORQUE. CINCO ANOS DE LA. UN MOMENT.

OKAY. YEAH. SENORA. UN MOMENT, POR FAVOR.

ESSER PUEDE HACER LA TRANSLATION PARA USTED. UNOS MINUTOS, POR FAVOR.

VAMOS A SEGUIR CON EL PROXIMO PERSONA Y LUEGO REGRESAMOS CON USTED.

THANK YOU. A AS A Z.

GOOD AFTERNOON. AZUSA IN DALLAS, TEXAS. I STAND HERE TODAY URGING THE IMMEDIATE ADVANCEMENT OF THE AMORTIZATION PROCESS FOR GAF AND TAMKO.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUYING OUT THESE TWO FACTORIES, WE HAVE TO DISMANTLE THE ARGUMENT THAT THIS IS SOMEHOW FISCALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

WE MUST CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THESE TWO FACTORIES ARE SEVERELY OUT OF DATE, AND THEIR UNIQUE PROBLEMS ARE DIRECTLY LINKED TO RESIDENTS HEALTH OUTCOMES.

ONE INDEPENDENT REPORT BY THE BVA GROUP, FOR EXAMPLE, A RESPECTED DALLAS BASED FINANCIAL ADVISORY FIRM, CALCULATES THAT AROUND 20% OF THE VALUATION FOR GAF IS SOLELY BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR OUTDATED EQUIPMENT.

THIS MASSIVE PREMIUM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROOFING INDUSTRY OR THE GENERAL ECONOMY.

IT IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF THE SPECIFIC DOCUMENTED PROBLEMS CONTAINED WITHIN THIS FACTORY.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, TAMKO RELEASED A HASTILY MANUFACTURED REPORT FROM AN IDEOLOGICALLY BASED THINK TANK IN MISSOURI THAT PROVIDES EXAGGERATED ASSUMPTIONS OF THE FACILITY'S IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY. IT CLAIMS TO SERVE THIS REPORT, WHICH IS DRAFTED HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY, OFFERS NO CREDIBLE INSIGHT INTO THE LIVES AND HEALTH OF DALLAS RESIDENTS, BUT IT ALSO NEGLECTS TO MENTION THE OPPORTUNITY THE CITY WOULD GAIN IF WE LET THESE COMMUNITIES DETERMINE THEIR OWN DESTINIES BY DEVELOPING LONG TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH.

BOTH OF THESE FACTORIES HAVE HANDED THE MEDIA AND COUNCIL UNSUBSTANTIATED STATEMENTS AND INFLATED VALUATION ESTIMATES TO MAINTAIN AN UNBIASED AND INDEPENDENT VALUATION.

HOWEVER, WE MUST PRIORITIZE THE LONG TERM WELL-BEING OF THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE LONG BEEN SUFFERING FROM THE DEMONSTRABLE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF THESE FACILITIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOSE RODRIGUEZ. JOSE RODRIGUEZ IS NOT PRESENT. EVELYN MAYO.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVELYN MAYO. DISTRICT TWO. THE LAST TIME THAT THE CITY REZONED WAS IN THE 80S.

AT THAT TIME, YOU ALL MADE THE DECISION TO MAKE BOTH GAF AND TAMKO NONCONFORMING USES.

SO THE CITY MADE THAT CALL ALMOST 40 YEARS AGO.

THE COMPANIES HAVE BEEN ON NOTICE FOR 40 YEARS THAT THEY NO LONGER ARE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE DIRECTION OF OUR CITY.

SINCE THEN, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THEIR POLLUTION AND CONSEQUENT HEALTH HEALTH HARMS. EVERY COUNCIL TO DATE HAS LET THAT OPPORTUNITY GO BY YOU ALL, AND YOU ALL ALONE ARE PRIMED TO TAKE THE FIRST STEP TO JUST INVESTIGATE THIS ISSUE, DO THE DUE DILIGENCE, FIND OUT HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY WILL COST, NOT INFLATED NUMBERS FROM INDUSTRY.

THE WEST DALLAS COMMUNITY HAS DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT, FOLLOWED EVERY SINGLE PROCEDURE THE CITY HAS THROWN AT THEM, AND HAS ONLY HAD DOORS CLOSED ONE AFTER ANOTHER BECAUSE OF GAFFES.

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IN THE 80S, WHEN THE CITY MADE THEM NONCONFORMING, THEY HAD WAY LESS DATA THAN YOU ALL DO.

THEY HAD WAY LESS INFORMATION ON THE HEALTH HARMS, ON HOW MUCH THIS REALLY IS HURTING PEOPLE'S LIFESPANS AND QUALITY OF LIFE ITSELF.

BUT THEY KNEW IT WAS WRONG, AND THEY SET UP THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS TO TAKE THE STEP THAT YOU ALL CAN DO TODAY.

IT'S TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING, AND IF NOT, HISTORY WILL JUDGE YOU HARSHLY AS YET ANOTHER COUNCIL THAT HAS SAT BY AND WAITED FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS TO MAKE IT EVEN HARDER FOR US TO TAKE THESE MEANINGFUL STEPS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND REDUCE SUFFERING AND SHORTENING OF LIVES IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU A LOT, DAVE.

DAVE WILL BE VIRTUAL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

DAVE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'LL COME BACK. NORMAN NELSON IS NOT VIRTUAL.

NOT ONLINE. IS MISS NELSON IN THE AUDIENCE? NORMAN NELSON IS NOT PRESENT.

PAULINE LOGAN, SHE'S ONLINE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M PAULINE LOGAN. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OFF AND ON FROM DERBY FOR THE LAST 69 YEARS.

BETWEEN MILITARY SERVICE AND LIVING IN OTHER CITIES AND STATES.

I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO PLEASE REZONE TAMKO FROM OUR COMMUNITY.

THE PRESENCE OF TAMKO SHINGLES MANUFACTURING PLANT WITHIN OUR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY PRESENTS A HAZARD TO US AND TO THE PUBLIC WELL BEING.

THEIR OPERATION IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH SAFETY AND ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS NECESSARY FOR A HEALTHY COMMUNITY.

THE PRIMARY CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS IS THE POLLUTION FROM THE PRODUCTION OF SHINGLES.

THE MANUFACTURING PROCESS GENERATES PARTICULATE MATTER CALLED POLLUTION, THAT IS RELEASED INTO THE AIR.

THIS LEADS TO POOR AIR QUALITY THAT IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS RESPIRATORY HEALTH, CONTRIBUTING TO BRONCHITIS, ASTHMA AND MANY OTHER BREATHING PROBLEMS. THE POOR AIR QUALITY ALSO IMPACTS THE RESIDENTS HEART HEALTH.

RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE NOISE POLLUTION FROM THE CONSTANT HEAVY DUTY LOGISTICS THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT DESIGNED FOR.

THERE IS A STEADY STREAM OF 18 WHEELER TRACTOR TRAILERS DELIVERING RAW MATERIALS AND TRANSPORTING FINISHED PRODUCT AWAY FROM THE FACTORY. THE TRACTOR TRAILERS OFTEN BLOCK TRAFFIC LANES, PREVENTING US FROM GETTING INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

RESIDENTS SIT BEHIND THESE HEAVY DUTY VEHICLES, INHALING THE NATION'S CALLED POLLUTION FROM THE TRUCKS, WORSENING OUR ALREADY DAMAGED LUNGS. THE MANUFACTURING PLANT IS A HUGE EYESORE.

ALSO, AS PEOPLE ENTER INTO OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.

COMMUNITY RESIDENTS HEALTH IS IMPACTED BY THE FOLLOWING DISEASE.

ASTHMA. THAT'S YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. RICHARD JENSEN.

HELLO THERE. MY NAME IS RICHARD JENSEN. I'VE COME HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMUNITIES AT SINGLETON AND JOPPA.

AND WHILE I TRUST THE INDEPENDENT STUDIES ON THE FINANCES OF THESE FACTORIES IN QUESTION, I DON'T SEE THIS AS A FINANCIAL ISSUE.

I GREW UP IN KESSLER PARK, AND I SAW THE RSR PLANT AND THE OTHER FACTORIES AND SCRAP YARDS IN WEST DALLAS, JUST A FEW MILES NORTH OF ME ALL MY LIFE. AND I WONDERED HOW THESE POLLUTING FACTORIES COULD BE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN HISTORIC SUBURB.

AND I REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT MY FAMILY SAID WHEN THEY EXPLAINED IT TO ME, WHICH IS THAT IT WAS ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRACKS, THAT SOME PARTS OF TOWN ARE FOR NICE PEOPLE, FOR PEOPLE WHO OWN BUSINESSES AND MAKE DECISIONS, AND THAT SOME PARTS OF TOWN ARE FOR WHERE THEY EXILE THE THINGS THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE.

DALLAS LOVES TO REPEAT ITS HISTORY. A POLLUTER IN AN HISTORICALLY BLACK AND HISPANIC NEIGHBORHOOD CLAIMS IT WOULD BE TOO EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE CLEANLY.

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BUT BECAUSE IT HAPPENS AT A PART OF TOWN THAT THEY DON'T GO TO, THE COMPANIES CHANGE AND THE COUNCIL CHANGE.

BUT THE STORY REMAINS THE SAME. AND IT'S BECAUSE DALLAS HAS A LONG STANDING PROBLEM WITH A GEOGRAPHIC RACE.

WE SEE THIS HISTORY ETCHED INTO THE CITY'S MAP.

THE REDLINING OF GENERATIONS PAST IS THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING OF TODAY.

WE SEE HIGHWAYS WITH BOOMING GROWTH ON ONE SIDE AND SYSTEMIC DISINVESTMENT ON THE OTHER.

AND THESE STORIES ARE GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING AS LONG AS THIS GOVERNMENT TURNS A BLIND EYE TO WHAT COMPANIES DO OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO PURSUE THE AMORTIZATION OF THE GAF AND TAMKO PLANTS AS A DECLARATION THAT PROFIT AND A FEW DOZEN JOBS DOES NOT OUTWEIGH THE HEALTH AND PROPERTY VALUES OF. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SHOWED US THAT WE CAN BUILD A CITY FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ESMERALDA ZUNIGA.

MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE. FIRST, WE WERE NOT MADE AWARE THAT THE THE INDIVIDUAL NEEDED TRANSLATION SERVICES.

SO WE WE DO NOT HAVE ONE. IN THE MEETING TODAY, HOWEVER, HER DAUGHTER, I BELIEVE IS GOING TO TRANSLATE FOR HER. OKAY. GRACIAS. ADELANTE. OKAY. MI NOMBRE ES ROSA CISNEROS.

CINCO ANOS. EL LADO DE LA COMPANIA RECIENTEMENTE.

MI ESPOSA. MURIO Y MUCHOS VECINOS HAN MUERTO Y AHORITA.

HAY MUCHOS ENFERMOS POR GENERACIONES GENERACIONES.

SHE'S LIVED 45 YEARS IN WEST DALLAS. SHE LIVES NEAR GARTH.

HER HUSBAND JUST PASSED AWAY. AND FOR MANY GENERATIONS, SHE'S SEEN SO MANY OF HER NEIGHBORS PASS AWAY TOO SOON.

POR MUCHO TIEMPO. SOUFFRANT DE ENFERMEDADES LLAGAS POR LA CONTAMINACION GRACEY ESSER COMPAGNIA.

MANY HAVE SUFFERED LONG TERM HEALTH MEDICAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF THE CONTAMINATION THAT'S COMING FROM.

GAF. LA DÉCISION DE LA COMPANIA. NO LO SOLAMENTE POR NOSOTROS. LOS VIEJOS LOS JOVENES Y LOS NINOS PORQUE UNA VIDA MEJOR.

SHE'S ASKING YOU TO PLEASE MAKE A DECISION TO GET YOU CLOSER, TO SHUT DOWN THE COMPANY BECAUSE IT NOT ONLY AFFECTS THE ELDERLY, BUT IT AFFECTS THE CHILDREN, THE YOUTH AND THE COMMUNITY.

POR LA VIDA DE LAS DE LAS PERSONAS DE LOS VECINOS NO SOLAMENTE POR EL VIERNES POR EL DINERO POR LA COMPANIA PODAMOS VIVIR LO MEJOR Y SE PUEDA. RESIDENTS DESERVE TO LIVE LONG, HEALTHY LIVES.

PLEASE DON'T JUST CONSIDER THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF THINGS, BUT CONSIDER THE VALUE OF HUMAN LIVES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ESMERALDA ZUNIGA.

HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON NOW. SO MY NAME IS ESMERALDA ZUNIGA.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT TWO, BUT I WORK IN JP AND WEST DALLAS.

SO THIS MEETING BEGAN WITH A PRAYER FOR THE CITY AND OUR COMMUNITIES.

WE HAVE TWO COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR THE RIGHT TO BREATHE FOR DECADES.

TIMCO RELEASED A STATEMENT TALKING ABOUT THEIR WORKERS.

BUT DON'T BE FOOLED. TIMCO CEO IS A KNOWN UNION BUSTER WHICH HAS SUNK TO NEW LOWS KEEPING UNIONS OUT OF THEIR PLANTS NATIONWIDE.

TIMCO IS A KNOWN POLLUTER AND WAS CONSIDERED A TOP THREE POLLUTER IN DALLAS, ACCORDING TO A DALLAS MORNING NEWS REPORT IN 2019.

BUT WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE THAT JOB ISN'T AFFECTED.

ON THEIR WEBSITE, AND THE STATEMENT RELEASED THE OTHER DAY.

TIMCO IS BASICALLY ADMITTING TO POLLUTING, JUST NOT IN JOBBIE.

SO IT'S OKAY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO GET POISONED AND NOT US.

SO LET'S JUST BE QUIET. WELL, WE WILL NOT BE SILENT.

OUR CHILDREN DESERVE BETTER. OUR PARENTS DESERVE BETTER AND WE DESERVE BETTER.

THE CITY OF DALLAS DESERVES BETTER. OUR WORK OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS HAS CHALLENGED CITY OFFICIALS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

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NOW BEFORE THE COUNCIL, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE HIGH PAID UPPER MANAGEMENT OF BOTH GAF AND TIMCO.

IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SAFE, I INVITE YOU.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO MOVE TO WEST DALLAS AND JOPPY FOR A YEAR.

AND LET'S SEE WHERE YOUR HEALTH IS. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT THE MONEY IS GREAT FOR THE CITY, I CHALLENGE YOU PUT YOUR DISTRICT UP FOR SACRIFICE AND VOLUNTEER YOUR DISTRICT TO HAVE THESE COMPANIES MOVE THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO BACK TO OUR VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

CLAUDIA FOWLER.

MISS FOWLER, WE CAN SEE YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WILL YOU UNMUTE? AND YOU CAN BEGIN. YOU'LL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT. NOW, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN. THIS IS DOCTOR CLAUDIA FOR COMMUNITY.

I AM GOING TO ASK, RESPECTFULLY THAT YOU ALL DO NOT INVEST $200,000 INTO ANY STUDY.

$200,000 INTO JOB SPEAKS NEED TO BE REPAIRED.

SEVERAL OTHER THINGS WE HAVE. LIKE MR. GALLIMORE SAID, WE HAVE AN ASSESSMENT NEED LIST.

A WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST. CHRISTMAS LIST, IF YOU WILL, OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE IN THE JOB.

ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING UP TO SPEAK TODAY.

I LOVE YOU ALL AND I AM A DOCTOR GIRL STEWART GATEKEEPER.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ALL THESE PEOPLE. THIS LADY SAID SHE WORKS IN JOPLIN.

MA'AM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU. THE OTHER GUY FROM ANOTHER DISTRICT WHO SAID HE WAS TELLING ME ABOUT THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRACKS, WHERE SOME PEOPLE STILL CONSIDER TO BE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE TRACKS. BUT MY THING IS, I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU DO NOT INVEST $200,000 INTO A STUDY.

THAT'S NEEDLESS TO SAY, THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND WHATEVER YOU THINK THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR JAPANESE, THAT MONEY DIRECTLY TO GET THINGS DONE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU A LOT, DAVE.

A LOT, DAVE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I LIVE IN WEST DALLAS IN DISTRICT SIX.

MY NAME IS DAVE. I'M A LEADER WITH SINGLETON UNITED.

I'M ALSO ON THE BOARD FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S HOA.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK I'M A SOCCER COACH AT UPLIFT HEIGHTS HIGH SCHOOL.

AND AFTER SOCCER PRACTICE, YOU KNOW, THE ERROR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SMELLS REALLY BAD WHEN WE'RE COMPETING AGAINST OTHER SCHOOLS WHO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRAIN AND LIVE IN CLEAN AIR. IT GIVES OTHER SCHOOLS A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ANY, ANY COACH AT ANY HIGH SCHOOL WOULD WANT THEIR THEIR KIDS TO BE READING THE CLEAREST AIR POSSIBLE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE IN THE AIR SMELL IS THE SAME AS IT DOES IN WEST DALLAS.

A FEW YEARS AGO, WE ORGANIZED A RALLY IN MINNEAPOLIS NEXT TO A GAS PLANT, AND THE AIR SMELLED THE SAME.

I THINK WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO START A PROCESS AFTER SO MANY YEARS TO CLOSE, TO CALCULATE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO WIN FREE AIR FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO START THAT PROCESS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL NOW CALL THE NEXT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST THREE ROWS OF THIS INTERSECTION. RONNIE.

MAESTAS MR. MAESTAS. YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM.

FLAVIO MONTEIRO, ALICIA. KENDRICK. JULIA. WEINSTEIN.

ANGUS. ROCK. WILLOW. DORSET. PARKER. FEARS. BENJAMIN.

TEST. GRACE. WALKER. KATRINA. GAMBER. WESLEY.

BENNETT. DANIEL. PAYTON. FRANCIE. JARVIS. JARVIS.

PENELOPE. CONNERY. REBECCA. MELTON. MR.. MAESTAS.

YOU MAY BEGIN. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL.

COME. COME HERE TODAY. I GUESS IT'S REALLY THE ISSUE IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, BECAUSE GOING BACK A LITTLE BIT BEFORE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE MOVED INTO WEST DALLAS WE'VE HAD THIS ISSUE FOR A LONG TIME. WE STARTED THE PROCESS OF ELIMINATING THE PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T HELPING US, OUR ACTUALLY OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE ELECTED THE REPRESENTATIVES TO STATE AND THE LOCAL LEVEL TO HELP US IN THE WEST DALLAS.

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I GO BY THERE EVERY DAY. I SEE A BASEBALL FIELD OUT THERE AND IT'S RIGHT.

THE KIDS ARE PLAYING AND I'M GOING ABOUT THE KIDS AND I'M WORRIED ABOUT OUR CHILDREN. THAT'S THEY PLAYED BASEBALL.

AND YOU KNOW, WE BREATHE THE AIR. WE ALREADY KNOW THE DATA.

WE ALREADY KNOW THE HEALTH ISSUES. THEY BREATHE THE AIR AND THEY PLAY IN THE DIRT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S ONE ISSUE THAT THAT THAT SHOULD EVEN BE, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM THAT THAT THE MONEY IS NOT EVEN THE ISSUE HERE.

THEN WE GO BACK TO, TO OUR GAP AND GAP HAS BEEN A WHEN YOU LOSE PARENTS.

I LOST MY GRANDMOTHER, MY MOTHER, AND MY UNCLE TO THE HEALTH ISSUES DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT GAP AND TO THE SHELTER AND BEFORE AGAIN, BEFORE A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE COME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE STARTED WITH THE SMALLER THE, WE STARTED WITH THE CEMENT PLANTS THAT WERE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE TALKING AND THEY WEREN'T INVOLVED AT THAT TIME. YOU KNOW, I'M THE CO-FOUNDER OF A GROUP CALLED WEST DALLAS ONE, AND THAT'S HOW WE ORGANIZED IN WEST DALLAS.

AND WE STARTED THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, AND THERE IS A PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

AND I HEAR THAT A LOT. YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS WHERE IT STOPS, YOU KNOW.

YOU YOU ALL NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS STARTED. AND IT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ABOUT THE MONEY. IT'S ABOUT OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

FLAVIO MONTEIRO WILL BE VIRTUAL. FLAVIO MONTEIRO.

OKAY. WE CAN WE CAN HEAR YOU MR. MONTEIRO. HOWEVER, YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING.

YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU, BUT BUT WE'LL WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.

YOUR VIDEO NEEDS TO BE DISPLAYED. WE'LL COME BACK.

ALICIA KENDRICK. CHOO CHOO CHOO. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS ALICIA KENDRICK. I LIVE IN JOPLIN. WELL, MY MOTHER LIVES IN JOPLIN, AND I MOVED AWAY FROM THERE RECENTLY.

BUT TODAY, JUST LIKE SO MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY OTHER TIMES, WE ARE HERE TO IMPLORE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HEALTH OF ITS CONSTITUENTS AND KEEP THAT AT THE FOREFRONT OF YOUR MINDS.

WE ALSO URGE YOU TO VOTE YES, TO HIRE A UNBIASED CONSULTANT, TO LOOK AT THE VALUE OF TAMKO AND GAF IN JOPPA AND WEST DALLAS. NOT JUST THE NUMBERS THROWN AROUND BY THE INDUSTRY, BUT LET'S ACTUALLY GET INTO THE NUMBERS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION.

FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, THE YEAR THE RESIDENTS OF JOPPA AND WEST DALLAS HAVE CARRIED THE GROWTH OF THE ENTIRE CITY OF DALLAS ON THEIR BACKS AND IN THEIR BACKYARDS. YET THEY ARE THE LAST AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN THE LAST TO RECEIVE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO START THINKING BIGGER.

THESE TWO INDUSTRIAL POLLUTERS NO LONGER FIT INTO THE FUTURE OF DALLAS AS A CITY, AND THEY DO NOT FIT INTO WEST DALLAS AND JOPPY.

ACCORDING TO THE FORWARD DALLAS PLAN, OUR COMMUNITIES ARE TIRED OF BEGGING FOR OUR LIVES, PLEADING FOR OUR HEALTH.

WE ARE, TOO THROUGH WITH THE IMAGINING SESSIONS THAT WE HAVE ALL THE TIME ABOUT WHAT THESE COMMUNITIES COULD LOOK LIKE IF THESE COMPANIES JUST LEFT, IF THESE COMPANIES WERE TO BE REMOVED. WHAT WE COULD ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH.

ON TODAY, EARTH DAY 2026, YOU ALL HAVE THE POWER TO VOTE YES AND START THE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF REMOVAL.

DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN PROMISED A FUTURE THAT IS BIG, THAT IS BRIGHT, THAT COINCIDES WITH THE GROWTH OF DALLAS THAT YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO PUT FORTH. BUT IT'S TIME TO ACTUALLY DO THAT. AND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, PRESIDENTS AND LEADERS.

SHAME ON ALL OF Y'ALL FOR BRINGING TAMPA TO SIT IN DEFENSE OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. JULIA WEINSTEIN. IT'S NOT ONLINE. IT'S NOT IN THE AUDIENCE. IT'S NOT PRESENT. ANGUS ROCK. IS ANGUS ROCK ONLINE? I'M SORRY, IS THIS JULIA WEINSTEIN OR ANGUS ROCK? CAN YOU TURN YOUR YOUR AUDIO ON? IT'S ON. HI.

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WE WILL. WILL YOU PLEASE REMOVE HER FROM THE STAGE? WILLOW, DORSET. HELLO. HI. I'M CARLA.

I'M SORRY. CAN THE INDIVIDUAL BE REMOVED FROM THE STAGE? THANK YOU. WILLOW, DORSET. IT'S NOT PRESENT. PARKER FEARS.

IT'S NOT PRESENT. BENJAMIN. TEST. ALL THOSE NAMES ARE IN THE SAME CLASS.

SHE'S TRYING TO TALK. HELLO? MA'AM. STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS KATRINA GAMBER.

AS I SHARED WITH THE HOST, CARLA HANCOX. ALL OF THESE ARE STUDENTS.

I'M SORRY YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED. PLEASE MOVE THIS.

ONE SECOND. ONE SECOND. MR.. MAYOR.

HI. WE ARE ALL REGISTERED TO SPEAK. WE ARE ALL.

ONE SECOND. PLEASE. OKAY.

OKAY, MR. MAYOR, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS UNTIL WE CAN GET SOME.

GET IT TO ASSIST US. I WILL NOW JUST CALL THE IN PERSON SPEAKERS.

MICHELLE LOPEZ.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MICHELLE LOPEZ. I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THE PROCESS OF RELOCATING GAF.

I RESIDED AT 247 BEDFORD STREET FOR OVER 25 YEARS.

MY HOME IS WITHIN 200M OF GAF RESOURCE. TEXAS.ORG HAS REPORTED THAT GAF AT 2600 SINGLETON BOULEVARD IN DALLAS IS THE LARGEST SOURCE OF SULFUR DIOXIDE IN DALLAS, EMITTING MORE THAN 260 TONS OF AIR POLLUTION EVERY YEAR.

THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION CONSIDERS SULFUR DIOXIDE A DANGEROUS POLLUTANT, PRIMARILY CAUSING RESPIRATORY ISSUES.

LONG TERM EXPOSURE IS LINKED TO REDUCED LUNG FUNCTION AND HIGHER RISK OF DEATH FROM CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CALEB ROBERTS.

AND EMANUAL DAVIS. LAURA QUINTERO AND JAY HAMM CAN ALSO COME FORWARD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CALEB ROBERTS DOWNWINDERS AT RISK.

ALSO A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FOUR. FIRST I WANT TO SAY I AM AN OUTSIDE AGITATOR.

I THINK I PUT MYSELF IN THE LINE OF PEOPLE LIKE DOCTOR KING AND MALCOLM X, WHO WOULD ALSO BE CALLED AGITATORS.

SO I LIKE THAT TITLE AND I'LL TAKE IT. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN A GRASSROOTS PROCESS.

MOST OF YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS.

WE WERE HERE BEFORE, ABOUT A YEAR AGO TRYING TO GET THIS ON COUNCIL.

AND THANK YOU TO THE FIVE COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT SIGNED THAT MEMO TO GET THIS ON COUNCIL.

FROM ALL THE TIME THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT OUR FIGHTS AGAINST GIF AND TAMKO.

THIS HAS NEVER BEEN TAKEN UP BY THIS COUNCIL IN THIS MANNER.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THIS MOVES FORWARD, THAT THIS IS A PROCESS THAT YOU'VE SEEN GROW. FOR MANY YEARS, PEOPLE HAVE SPENT FIVE AND SIX YEARS OF THEIR LIVES TRYING TO GET YOU ALL TO HOLD THESE POLLUTERS ACCOUNTABLE, BUT ALSO JUST GETTING YOU TO DELIBERATE THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO IS THAT WORTH $200,000? THAT IS THE QUESTION.

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YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT HEALTH AND ALL THESE OTHER IMPACTS THAT THE COMPANIES ARE SAYING.

SINCE 2018, WE DID A STUDY IN JOPPA WITH 50% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY.

I WISH WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN SOME OF THIS DATA FROM SOME OF THESE INDUSTRIES.

THEN WHEN WE WERE GOING AROUND TRYING TO GET THIS INFORMATION, THEY DID NOT SHARE THAT.

THESE ARE SOMETHING THAT THE GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATIONS WITH OUR OWN DIME, WITH OUR OWN GRANTS MADE POSSIBLE.

THE CORE PROBLEM YOU'RE HAVING TODAY IS THIS JUST DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE CORE VALUES OF GOOD URBAN PLANNING.

I'M AN URBAN PLANNER. YOU WILL TALK TO YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THEY WILL SAY TODAY, WILL WE PUT THESE INDUSTRIES NEXT TO THESE COMMUNITIES? NO, BECAUSE IT'S TOO HARD TO DECOUPLE ALL OF THE HEALTH IMPACTS CAUSED BY INDUSTRY WITH THE ACTUAL RESULTS AND HEALTH THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING.

THAT'S WHY YOU SEPARATE THESE THINGS. THEY DON'T BELONG TOGETHER.

FIRST DAY IN URBAN PLANNING, THEY TELL YOU ZONING IS TO SEPARATE INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DECIDE IS RIGHT.

40 YEARS AGO, THIS COUNCIL DECIDED THAT THESE AREAS SHOULD NOT BE HOMES FOR THESE TWO COMPANIES.

THIS IS A 40 YEAR LONG PROCESS. PLEASE DO NOT THINK ABOUT THIS AS OUTSIDE AGITATORS OR COMMUNITY GETTING UP AND WANTING TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE IN A YEAR OR TWO.

THIS IS MANY YEARS IN THE MAKING. WE COME TO YOU TO SAY, IS ALL THAT YEARS OF WORK WORTH $200,000 TO GET THIS PROCESS MOVING FORWARD? SO WE HOPE YOU VOTE YES ON THAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

EMANUEL DAVIS. GREETINGS. MY NAME IS EMANUEL DAVIS.

I AM A RESIDENT OF JOPPY. FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, A PROUD RESIDENT OF JOPPY.

I AM SO HONORED TO BE BEFORE YOU BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE Y'ALL ARE CHOSEN.

WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT A BATTLE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES.

AND FINALLY, WE HAVE MADE SOME TRACTION. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED AND LOST THEIR LIVES TO GET US WHERE WE'RE HERE TODAY, AND TO BE SLAPPED IN THE FACE ONCE AGAIN BY THE POLLUTERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHERE IT IS A PROVEN FACT THAT THEY ARE KILLING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OF JOBY AND WEST DALLAS. BUT I DON'T BLAME HIM BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT HE'S PROBABLY GOING OFF OR OUR OR OUR MONITORS, THE MONITORS THAT SUPPOSED TO MONITOR TO SEE IF POLLUTION IS IN WEST DALLAS OR IN JOPPA OR ALL THE WAY ON THE BACKSIDE OF HIGHLAND PARK. SO I SEE WHY HE MIGHT SAY THE THE DATA IS NO GOOD, BUT WE ARE THANKFUL AND WE ARE BLESSED THAT WE HAVE CREDIBLE COLLEGES WHO HAVE CAME OUT AND WHO HAVE TESTED OUR COMMUNITIES AND HAVE PROVEN THAT WE ARE BEING ASSAULTED 24 HOURS A DAY, 24 HOURS A DAY. WHEN YOUR EYES CANNOT SEE THE FUMES COMING FROM THE BUILDING, FROM THE PLANT, IT IS STILL SPEWING ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY. I AM APPALLED TO SEE THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE.

WE HAVE PATRIOTS IN THIS ROOM THAT ARE STANDING WITH THE VERY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SLAUGHTERED THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS FOR A OF A DIME.

I THANK YOU SO MUCH. I COME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE WITH YOU.

WE STAND WITH YOU. GOD KNOWS THE WEIGHT THAT IS ON YOUR SHOULDERS AND WE ARE HERE WITH YOU.

WEST DALLAS IS HERE WITH YOU. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT YOU ARE THE REMEDY.

I CAME HERE TODAY SO THAT I CAN HAVE LIFE. YOUR DECISION IS SO WE ALL CAN HAVE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHELSEA LIMBAUGH.

HI, I'M CHELSEA LIMBAUGH. I LIVE IN RICHARDSON, TEXAS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU TAKE ACTION TO START THE AMORTIZATION PROCESS SO WE CAN REMOVE THE NON-CONFORMING USE FACILITIES OF GAF AND TAMKO.

AS YOU KNOW, THESE FACILITIES HAVE BEEN CLASSIFIED AS NONCONFORMING SINCE 1986, WHEN THE CITY DETERMINED THAT THIS TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL USE WAS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY REFLECTS THE REALITY THAT THIS IS AN AGING INDUSTRIAL USE, NOT A MODERN ASSET THAT COULD CONTINUE TO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY LIMIT THE REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND LONG TERM TAX BASE OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

AN INDEPENDENT EVALUATION OF JF ESTIMATES THAT THE AMORTIZATION COSTS, INCLUDING DEMOLITION RELATED CONSIDERATIONS,

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AND THE TIMELINE FOR THAT WOULD BE 2.9 TO 3.6 YEARS, WHICH IS KIND OF A QUICK TURNAROUND FOR THE COMMUNITIES TO START ASKING HOW WE WANT OR IMPLEMENTING WHAT WE WANT IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

SO AN EXPEDIENT PHASE TRANSITION TO REMOVE JF AND TAMKO WILL CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE COMPATIBLE USES THAT REFLECT CURRENT CITY OF DALLAS PLANNING GOALS SUCH AS FORWARD DALLAS. AND DON'T FORGET THE DALLAS REDEVELOPMENT CODE.

OKAY, LET'S, LET'S SKIP THAT. BUT THIS ISSUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN ECONOMICS AND LAND USE.

THERE'S A COST TO HUMAN HEALTH JUSTICE. THERE'S A COST TO REMOVE JF AND TIMCO.

RESIDENTS IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE CARRIED THE BURDEN OF POLLUTION, STRESS AND REDUCED QUALITY OF LIFE FOR DECADES.

OKAY. SORRY. THIS IS A LITTLE TOO LONG. SO WEST DALLAS AND JP HAVE PAID THE PRICE FOR THESE SO-CALLED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES THESE COMPANIES BRING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I GOT CLARITY ON THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.

MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S A CLASSROOM AS A TEACHER AND STUDENTS THAT'S ON ONE VIDEO.

SO I WILL CALL MISS THE THE TEACHER KATRINA GAMBLE.

MISS GAMBLE. MISS GAMBLE. I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU. YOU GET TWO MINUTES AND THEN I WILL I NEED YOU TO LISTEN OR HAVE YOUR CLASSROOM LISTEN FOR THEIR NAMES AND THEN THEY CAN COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BEGIN.

THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KATRINA GAMBER AND I GREW UP IN OAK CLIFF, RIGHT NEXT TO THE BORDER OF WEST DALLAS.

I CURRENTLY STILL LIVE IN OAK CLIFF ALONGSIDE MY THREE CHILDREN, AND I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BISHOP ARTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

AS COUNCIL MEMBER CHAD WEST MENTIONED EARLIER, I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY THAT I LIVE IN.

AS I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR TRAFFIC CHANGES AS WELL, AND ACCORDINGLY, I TAKE MY CHILDREN ALL OVER OAK CLIFF AND I'VE TAKEN THEM TO THE PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT SITS RIGHT NEXT TO GAF.

AND WE HAVE SMELLED THE AIR. WE DID NOT RETURN.

WE ARE CURIOUS WHY SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY CENTERS, LIBRARIES, PARKS ARE BEING BUILT AND MAINTAINED NEXT TO FACTORIES.

I TEACH AT A MONTESSORI SCHOOL WHERE WE ASK OUR STUDENTS TO BELIEVE IN CIVIC ADVOCACY AND THAT THEY CAN CREATE CHANGE.

THEY LEARN ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL NEEDS OF ALL HUMANS AND ALL LIVING THINGS, AND THAT THESE ARE INTERCONNECTED.

THIS IS WHY SO MANY OF THEM FEEL PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ISSUE, BECAUSE AIR TRAVELS AND HEALTHY AIR IS NOT SIMPLY A WANT OR A FRIVOLOUS HOPE.

IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL NEED. I HOPE CITY COUNCIL WILL SHOW THAT THEY ALSO BELIEVE ALL DALLAS CITIZENS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLEAN AIR, AND THAT ALL THE RESIDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE FACILITIES IN A SAFE WAY.

THIS IS A HOPE TO BUILD AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SUSTAINABLE CITY AND A FUTURE FOR ALL RESIDENTS.

SO PLEASE CHOOSE TO REMOVE GAF AND TAMKO. PLEASE START THIS PROCESS AND LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU JULIA. I'LL CALL THEIR NAME.

I'LL CALL THEIR NAMES. OKAY. JULIA. STUDENTS ABOUT TO LEAVE.

WE ARE JUST HOPING SHE COULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, AS WE HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE 9 A.M., AND WE WANTED TO PROVIDE HER WITH THAT OPPORTUNITY.

IF NOT, WE WILL FOLLOW YOUR ORDER. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JULIA WEINSTEIN. YOU MAY BEGIN. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS JULIA WEINSTEIN AND I'M A DALLAS RESIDENT AND I'M A SEVENTH GRADER AT WHITE ROCK MONTESSORI.

I'M SPEAKING TO YOU, SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND TAMKO AND THEIR IMPACT.

ALTHOUGH I DON'T LIVE DIRECTLY IN WEST DALLAS AND THERE IS NO INVISIBLE BARRIER SURROUNDING THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THESE FACTORIES ARE IMPACTING US ALL. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE AIR QUALITY OF DALLAS TO BE CLEAN BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTS AND THE WILDLIFE CRUCIAL TO OUR ENVIRONMENTS. THE POLLUTION THESE MAJOR FACTORIES ARE PRODUCING NEEDS TO BE STOPPED.

IT IS CAUSING SEVERE HEALTH ISSUES LEADING TO DEATH, INCLUDING CANCER AND ASTHMA.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY EXCRUCIATING TO THINK THAT MY FUTURE CHILDREN MAY BE SCARED TO GO OUTSIDE BECAUSE OF THE POLLUTED AIR, OR THAT EVERY TIME I STEP OUTSIDE, I AM PUTTING MY HEALTH AT SEVERE RISK.

THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR CHANGE IS SO I CAN FEEL SAFE AND COMFORTABLE IN MY ENVIRONMENT.

I SHOULD NOT BE SCARED TO BREATHE. WE SHOULD NOT BE SCARED TO BREATHE.

THIS ISSUE MATTERS TO ME BECAUSE NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAFELY BREATHE AND NOT FEEL ENDANGERED.

IN HONOR OF TODAY BEING EARTH DAY, I'M GOING TO RECITE A QUOTE THAT SPEAKS TO ME AND HOPEFULLY TO YOU ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

UNLESS SOMEONE LIKE YOU CARES A WHOLE AWFUL LOT, NOTHING IS GOING TO GET BETTER.

IT'S NOT. THE LORAX. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

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CITY COUNCIL. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS ANGUS ROCK AND.

AND I'M A DALLAS RESIDENT. I AM HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND TAMKO IN.

IN THE AIR QUALITY OF DALLAS IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE EVERYONE DESERVES A CLEAN AIR, CLEAN AIR, AND. AND A CLEAN WATER AND A GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE.

OUR SCHOOL HAS BEEN WORKING WITH DOWNWINDERS AT RISK TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM OF AIR POLLUTION.

MY HOPE IS MY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE IS THAT WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO LOWER THE POLLUTION, THE AIR POLLUTION RATES AND LIVE A HEALTHY FUTURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, WILLOW DORSETT.

SHE LEFT EARLY, SO I'LL BE SPEAKING ON HER BEHALF.

WHAT IS YOUR NAME? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS JULIA WEINSTEIN.

OH, YES. YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN, MISS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YES. PARKER. FIERS.

HI. MY NAME IS PARKER PIERCE, AND I AM A DALLAS RESIDENT.

I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND TAMKO.

THE AIR QUALITY OF DALLAS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE HEALTH OF THE CITIZENS.

DATA SHOWS THAT IN WEST DALLAS, 34% OF PEOPLE HAVE ASTHMA COMPARED TO THE DFW 7% RATE.

THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR THIS CHANGE IS TO ACHIEVE CLEANER AIR AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

THIS ISSUE MATTERS TO ME BECAUSE THE POLLUTION DOESN'T JUST AFFECT THE WEST DALLAS AREA, BUT THE ENTIRE DFW AREA.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

BENJAMIN. TEST. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BENJAMIN TEST AND I AM A DALLAS RESIDENT.

I AM SPEAKING TO YOU TODAY ABOUT HOW GAF AND TAMKO ARE HEAVY POLLUTERS IN RESIDENCES.

THEY NEED TO GO. THE AIR QUALITY OF DALLAS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE DALLAS IS A BIG CITY THAT NEEDS PLENTY OF SAFE AIR.

BUT GAF AND TAMKO ARE TRYING TO GET RID OF IT.

THE DATA SHOWS THAT IN WEST DALLAS, WHERE GAF IS LOCATED, THE RATES OF ASTHMA IS TWO TIMES IN THE COUNTRY.

COUNTRY. AVERAGE. MY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE IS THAT GAFF LEAVES SOON, AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE ARE SAFER.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

GRACE WALKER. THAT'S THE STUDENT THAT JUST LEFT THAT WASN'T ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE START, SO THANK YOU.

WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT. WESLEY BENNETT.

THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS WESLEY BENNETT AND I AM A DALLAS RESIDENT.

I'M SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND TAMKO.

THE AIR QUALITY OF DALLAS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT IMPACTS PEOPLE, HEALTH, PEOPLE'S HEALTH.

THIS IS A SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUE BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THE HEALTH OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE SOCIETY'S HEALTH.

OUR SCHOOL, WHITE ROCK MONTESSORI, HAS WORKED WITH DOWNWINDERS AT RISK AND SINGLETON UNITED TO RAISE TO RAISE MONEY FOR AIR QUALITY MONITORS.

MY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE IS THAT GAF AND TIMCO ARE RELOCATED TO A DIFFERENT AREA.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

DANIEL PAYTON.

THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS DANIEL PAYTON AND I'M A DALLAS RESIDENT.

I'M SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THE IMPACT OF GAF AND TIMCO ON THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE AIR.

THE DATA SHOWS THAT WEST DALLAS ALONE HAS ALMOST TRIPLED THE ASTHMA RATES OF THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES COMBINED.

MY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE IS THAT THE PEOPLE OF WEST DALLAS DON'T WAKE UP TO FACTORIES BLOCKING THEIR VIEW, AND THE FEAR OF WAKING UP TO AN ASTHMA ATTACK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

PENELOPE CONNERY. SHE HAS LEFT. PLEASE MOVE TO THE NEXT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. REBECCA MELTON.

THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS REBECCA MELTON, AND I LIVE IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF DISTRICT TEN.

I ALSO TEACH AT A MONTESSORI SCHOOL IN EAST DALLAS.

I'M SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY TO REQUEST THAT YOU VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AGENDA ITEM 39, TO FIND A CONSULTANT TO EVALUATE THE COST OF REMOVING GAF AND

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WHEN MY FAMILY MOVED TO THE DALLAS AREA IN 2019.

TOO MANY OF OUR DALLAS NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY IMPACTED FOR TOO LONG BY THESE FACILITIES.

86% OF FAMILIES LIVING IN THE SINGLE SINGLETON CORRIDOR REPORT RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS GOT WORSE AFTER THEY MOVED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ASTHMA RATES IN WEST DALLAS ARE 34%, COMPARED TO 7% IN DALLAS AS A WHOLE, AND AIR QUALITY MONITORS PLACED DOWNWIND OF GAPS IN THE SINGLETON CORRIDOR HAVE CAPTURED DATA THAT SHOWS THAT RESIDENTS OF WEST DALLAS BREATHE AS MUCH AS 11 TIMES MORE PPM, 2.5 THAN THE AVERAGE AIR POLLUTION RECORDED FOR DALLAS COUNTY.

THE ADOLESCENTS IN MY MIDDLE SCHOOL CLASS HAVE BEEN LEARNING ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF AIR POLLUTION ON HUMAN HEALTH AND THE HEALTH OF THE ENVIRONMENT, AND THE WAYS THEY CAN USE THEIR VOICES FOR POSITIVE CHANGE IN DALLAS.

AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING TO JOIN THE EFFORTS TO IMPROVE AIR QUALITY IN WEST DALLAS.

AND I ASK THAT YOU VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FINDING A CONSULTANT TO EVALUATE GAF AND TIMCO SO THAT MY NEIGHBORS IN WEST DALLAS AND JOPPA DON'T CONTINUE TO FEEL THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THE HARMFUL POLLUTION THESE FACILITIES EMIT.

I WANT JAYNIE, HER FAMILY, HER NEIGHBORS, AND THE STUDENTS OF WEST DALLAS JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL A BLOCK FROM GAF TO BE ABLE TO WALK OUTSIDE, BREATHE DEEPLY, AND EXPERIENCE THE IMMEDIATE RELIEF THAT REMOVAL OF THESE FACILITIES WILL BRING.

AND I URGE YOU TO VOTE ON THIS IMPORTANT NEXT STEP.

I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO TO ENSURE THAT DALLAS IS A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE CAN THRIVE, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. HUGH KENNEDY.

THANK YOU. CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS HUGH KENNEDY AND I AM A DALLAS RESIDENT.

I AM SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT GAF AND TAMKO, WHICH ARE HURTING THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM THROUGH RESPIRATORY ISSUES, MAKING THEM NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE FROM THEIR HOUSE AND OUTSIDE.

34% OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH ASTHMA AROUND GAF, AND 86% OF THOSE PEOPLE REPORT ONE OR MORE RESPIRATORY SYSTEM SYMPTOMS AFTER MOVING TO WEST DALLAS. I THINK THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND THEIR WALK AROUND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT GETTING ASTHMA OR OTHER RESPIRATORY ISSUES. 29% OF PEOPLE REPORT UNHEALTHY PREGNANCIES DUE TO THE 11 TIMES INCREASE OF PM 2.5 POLLUTION COMPARED TO THE AVERAGE FOR DALLAS COUNTY.

OFFICIAL EPA MONITOR. BUT I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE REMOVE GAF AND TAMKO BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BREATHE CLEAN AIR REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY LIVE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. GREG. CRENSHAW. LOFGREN. THANK YOU.

CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GREG CRENSHAW LOFGREN, AND I AM A DALLAS RESIDENT.

I'M SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND TAMKO.

THESE FACTORIES ARE HEAVY POLLUTERS THAT NOT ONLY IMPACT PEOPLE IN WEST DALLAS, BUT PEOPLE ALL OVER.

THE DATA SHOWS THAT THE AVERAGE ASTHMA RATE IN WEST DALLAS IS AT 34% AND RISING BECAUSE OF THESE FACTORIES.

THE REASON I AM ASKING FOR CHANGE IS BECAUSE THESE FACTORIES IMPACT ALL OF DALLAS.

WHEN I VISITED WEST DALLAS, I COULD TELL JUST FROM BREATHING IN THE AIR THAT IT WAS HEAVILY POLLUTED.

MY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE IS THAT AIR POLLUTION GOES DOWN AND EVERYONE HAS CLEAN AIR TO BREATHE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

ZOE WHITBECK. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ZOE AND I AM A DALLAS RESIDENT. I'M SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THE AIR QUALITY OF WEST DALLAS.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME BECAUSE IT IMPACTS THE HEALTH AND THE LIVES OF MANY INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THE DALLAS AREA.

THE DATA SHOWS THAT WEST DALLAS RESIDENTS BREATHE 11 TIMES AS MUCH PARTICULATE MATTER AS OTHER DALLAS RESIDENTS.

RECENTLY, MY CLASS AND I WENT TO WEST DALLAS TO INSTALL AN AIR QUALITY MONITOR.

WE HELPED RAISE MONEY FOR. AND IT WAS VERY DISTURBING TO SEE THE HARMFUL IMPACT OF THE POLLUTION ON THE AIR.

THE WEST DALLAS RESIDENTS BREATHE FOR THE FUTURE.

I HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE GARF OUT OF WEST DALLAS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

WOLFGANG ROCK. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS WOLFGANG ROCK AND I AM A DALLAS RESIDENT. I'M SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND TAMKO.

DATA SHOWS THAT WEST DALLAS RESIDENTS ARE 14% MORE LIKELY FOR COPD AND 34% MORE LIKELY FOR ASTHMA.

OUR SCHOOL, WHITE ROCK MONTESSORI, HAS HELPED INSTALL A AIR QUALITY MONITOR IN WEST DALLAS,

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MY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE IS THAT IS THAT WEST DALLAS HAS CLEAN AIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

FINN. GOOD. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS FINNEGAN.

GOOD. AND I AM A DALLAS RESIDENT. I'M SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THE AIR POLLUTION PROBLEM IN WEST ALLENS, WEST DALLAS AND JOPLIN. AND DUE TO GAF AND TIMCO, AIR QUALITY IN WEST DALLAS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS SO MANY PEOPLE IN IN THAT AREA AND ALL AROUND DFW. DATA SHOWS HOW IT SEVERELY IMPACTS HUMAN HEALTH, LEADING TO ASTHMA AND COPD.

WHEN MY CLASS WENT TO WEST DALLAS, WE SAW THE TRUE HARM THESE COMPANIES ARE CAUSING.

WE INSTALLED AN AIR QUALITY MONITORING MONITOR TO HELP, BUT WE NEED TO DO MORE.

THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND TIMCO NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR THE FUTURE OF AIR QUALITY IN WEST DALLAS AND JOB.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MISS GAMBRELL.

I BELIEVE THAT THAT SHOULD BE ALL OF THE REGISTERED STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU.

YOU DID HAVE FRANKIE GERVAIS REGISTERED. WE WEREN'T SURE THAT SHE WAS GOING TO BE MAKING IT, BUT SHE IS HERE.

MAY SHE STILL HAVE THE FLOOR FOR HER TIME. I DO HAVE FRANKIE GERVAIS.

IS SHE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. SHE'S HERE.

OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS FRANKIE GERVAIS. I LIVE AT 9706 EL PATIO DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

I'M A PROUD SEVENTH GRADER AT WHITE OAK MONTESSORI. I'M PROUD BECAUSE OF MY SCHOOL AND THE FACT THAT THEY TEACH US TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. I'M ADVOCATING FOR MY HEALTH AND MY CLASSMATES HEALTH.

I DON'T WANT TO GROW UP IN FEAR OF MY HEALTH AND MY FUTURE KIDS HEALTH.

I AM ALWAYS TOLD BY MY MOM THAT HER GREATEST JOY WAS HAVING ME, AND I WANT TO HAVE THAT.

IT'S MY DREAM. BUT LIVING NEAR THESE FACTORIES MAY BE CAUSING ME TO NOT HAVE THAT.

I WANT TO CHANGE THAT. EVEN IF WE CAN'T CHANGE THE PAST, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE FUTURE.

PLEASE VOTE TO EXAMINE THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND TOMCO.

THINK ABOUT OUR FUTURE. I KNOW YOU'VE SMELT THE AIR IN THESE PLACES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, MISS GAMBER, FOR YOUR YOUR STUDENTS.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A FEW MORE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR JERRY FIGUEROA.

HEY, HOW Y'ALL DOING? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.

YOU MAY CONTINUE. MY NAME IS JERRY FIGUEROA. 2220 WEST CLARENDON DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75208.

I'M HERE IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE PEOPLE OF JOPPA AND WEST DALLAS.

THESE PEOPLE NEED THESE INDUSTRIAL POLLUTERS OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS TO LIVE, BREATHE, AND DIE. INHALING THESE CHEMICALS AND POLLUTION IS NOT RIGHT.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT COMMON SENSE STUFF. YOU KNOW, YOU ALL, AS CITY COUNCIL, WOULD NOT HAVE YOUR OWN CHILDREN GROWING UP BREATHING THAT STUFF. SO WHY SHOULD THEY? CITY COUNCIL MUST DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO REMOVE THESE POLLUTERS.

THIS ISSUE AFFECTS NOT ONLY PHYSICAL HEALTH, BUT MENTAL HEALTH.

THIS IS A SIMPLE QUESTION OF RIGHT AND WRONG.

ON THE 1980S WERE 40 YEARS, ABOUT 40 YEARS AGO.

THINK ABOUT THAT. WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDED THEN THAT THESE POLLUTERS DIDN'T BELONG IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

HOW MUCH LONGER DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO WAIT? PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO THE PEOPLE THAT SPOKE EARLIER ON GREG ABBOTT WITHHOLDING FUNDS FROM DALLAS AND TRYING TO IMPOSE THOSE STRONG ARM TACTICS AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS, ESSENTIALLY INTIMIDATING AND BLACKMAILING DALLAS IMMIGRANTS ARE NEEDED.

ICE IS NOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FLAVIO MONTEIRO.

YES. MR. MONTEIRO. YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOUR VIDEO NEEDS TO BE DISPLAYED.

OKAY. OKAY. I'M READY. YOU CAN. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

OKAY. I'M SORRY. I'M GOING TO TO SPEAK IN SPANISH.

NO PROBLEM. YOU MAY CONTINUE.

TRANSLATE FOR ME. I'M SORRY, MR. MONTEIRO. HE'S.

HE'S READY. TRANSLATE FOR ME. WE'LL COME BACK.

MR.. MONTEIRO. CINDY! HUA! CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU MAY BEGIN, MISS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

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AND I'M HERE TO URGE YOU TO TAKE THE FIRST STEPS TOWARDS APPRAISING THE VALUATION OF GAF AND TAMKO.

STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONING OF AN INDEPENDENT APPRAISAL OF THESE FACILITIES.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO TALK THROUGH THESE TEARS. AS A FELLOW EDUCATOR WHO FEELS PRIDE SEEING THEIR LEARNERS USE THEIR VOICE.

DID YOU JUST SEE THAT THE CHILDREN ARE TAKING TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO STAND BEFORE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS, THEIR CLASSMATES, AND THEIR OWN LUNGS? NO CHILDREN SHOULD EVER HAVE TO COME TO CITY HALL TO ASK ADULTS TO PROTECT THEM.

THEY ARE HERE. AND AGAIN, WE SHOULD WAIT. THAT SHOULD WEIGH ON ALL OF US.

40 YEARS IS LONG ENOUGH. THESE FACILITIES HAVE BEEN NONCONFORMING SINCE THE 1980S, AND THIS COUNCIL DECIDED NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO THAT THESE FACILITIES DID NOT BELONG IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND FOR 40 YEARS, AND HAVE BEEN PAYING THE PRICE FOR A DECISION THAT WAS ALREADY MADE BUT NEVER FINISHED.

TWO GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES HAVE GROWN UP UNDER SMOKESTACKS, CITY HAS OFFICIALLY SAID, SHOULD NOT BE THERE.

YOU NEED THAT INDEPENDENT APPRAISAL BECAUSE GAF AND TAMKO HAVE BEEN TELLING TWO DIFFERENT STORIES TO THE DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT FOR TAX PURPOSES, THEY REPORT LOW VALUES AND CLAIM THE TAX BREAKS THAT COME WITH THEM.

BUT THE MOMENT AMORTIZATION ENTERS A CONVERSATION, THEIR VALUES BALLOON SOMEHOW.

AN APPRAISAL FROM A LOCAL CONSULTING GROUP, WHICH WAS DELIVERED TO THE COUNCIL PEOPLE, INCORPORATES SB 99 AND PUTS GAF AT 36 TO $45 MILLION AND TAMKO AT 12 TO 15 MILLION. AND EVEN THOSE FIGURES REFLECT THEY ARE OLD, OBSOLETE FACILITIES.

THIS CITY SHOULD NOT NEGOTIATE AGAINST INFLATED NUMBERS.

THESE COMPANIES THAT DON'T EVEN STAND BEHIND ON THEIR OWN TAX FILINGS COMMISSION THE APPRAISAL.

GET THE TRUTH. NOW CONSIDER WHAT DALLAS ACTUALLY GETS IN RETURN.

WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF SHINGLES IF THERE ARE NO HEALTHY PEOPLE TO LIVE UNDER THEM? WE REJECT THE FALSE CHOICE THAT COMPANIES WANT TO FORCE ON US RESIDENTS VERSUS WORKERS.

TO US, THE HEALTH OF THE. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. PATTY ARELLANO. ARELLANO.

I'LL GET MY STAFF. SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE SAID THEY WOULD DO IT.

MISS ARELLANO. OKAY. IT'S NOT PRESENT. JAY HAMM.

GOOD AFTERNOON. JAY DOWNWINDERS AT RISK. I WANT TO START BY SAYING, LIKE, IMAGINE THAT YOUR HOME IS TRAPPED BETWEEN BEING HOSTAGE BETWEEN TWO POLLUTERS IN ONE OF THESE POLLUTERS IS REFUSING TO BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DECLINING HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY, ALTHOUGH THEY ADMIT THAT THEY DO CAUSE AIR POLLUTION.

BUT WHAT THEY SUGGEST IS, YES, THEY MAY CAUSE POLLUTION, BUT THIS POLLUTION DOES NOT ENTER THE HOMES OF THE PEOPLE OF JOPPA.

INSTEAD, WHAT TIMCO SUGGESTS THAT THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR POLLUTING JOFFREYS AIR, THE WIND AND DALLAS ONLY BLOWS NORTH.

THEY MAKE THIS CLAIM USING A STOLEN PHOTO ON THE TIMCO DALLAS WEBSITE.

AND IN THE SHOT YOU SEE THAT TIMCO HAS ADDED ARROWS POINTING NORTH.

TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, THE PHOTO THAT THEY USED ON THIS WEBSITE IS TAKEN FROM A PEER REVIEWED JOURNAL THAT SHARES HOW PARTICLE MATTER ACTUALLY POLLUTES THE CITY. RIGHT. THE CITY OF DALLAS.

A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH WILL SHOW THAT THE WIND PATTERNS IN DALLAS ACTUALLY BLOW IN EVERY DIRECTION.

AND CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF STAMKOS CLAIMS, I THINK THEY BELIEVE WE'RE THE DESCENDANTS OF NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND.

YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELVES, CAN A COMPANY THAT CAN'T TELL WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS BE TRUSTED TO CLAIM THAT RELOCATING THEIR OPERATIONS WILL COST UPWARDS OF $300 MILLION? I THINK THAT'S UNTRUE. AS TIMCO ATTEMPTS TO AS TIMCO ATTEMPTS TO TAKE UP SPACE AND OFFER UNSOLICITED SUGGESTIONS ON THE ROLES THEY PLAY IN RESIDENTS LIVES, I WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THE VOICES THAT NEED TO BE CENTERED ARE THOSE OF OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN TODAY. AND I URGE YOU TO PUT FORTH THE FUNDS TO SELECT AN UNBIASED CONSULTANT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AMORTIZATION PROCESS TO REMOVE THESE HARMFUL COMPANIES FROM THESE RESPECTFUL COMMUNITIES.

THANKS. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL. YOU HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS, TWO MORE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, NORMA NELSON. YES. HI. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES.

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MY NAME IS NORMA NELSON. I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE.

BUT FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, I HAVE WORKED IN SCHOOLS AND NONPROFITS SERVING CHILDREN IN DALLAS, IN DISTRICT SIX IN WEST DALLAS. SO IT'S NOT JUST A PLACE I CARE ABOUT.

IT'S WHERE I HAVE SPENT MY CAREER SINCE 2004.

I'M HERE TODAY TO URGE YOU TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION TO FINANCE THE STUDY FOR THE REMOVAL OF GAF AND TAMKO.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD, AND IT IS LONG OVERDUE.

BUT IT MUST BE A STEP TOWARD ACTION AND NOT JUST ANOTHER POINT OF DELAY.

EVERY DAY, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IN WEST DALLAS ARE LIVING, LEARNING, AND BREATHING NEAR THE GAF FACILITY.

AND AS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF READERS LEADERS, I WORK JUST 0.6 MILES AWAY.

BEFORE THAT, I SPENT EIGHT YEARS AT SAINT MARY OF CARMEL CATHOLIC SCHOOL.

1.2 MILES AWAY, THERE ARE SCHOOLS, DAYCARES, NON-PROFITS SERVING FAMILIES, AND HOMES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.

I KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING THEM AND HAVE WORKED WITH THEM FOR, LIKE I SAID, 20 YEARS.

IT IS DAILY ONGOING EXPOSURE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN, THEIR FAMILIES AND MY EMPLOYEES, MYSELF AND SO MANY THAT ARE THERE TODAY, AS WELL AS THE AMAZING TEACHERS AND STAFF OF ALL OF OUR AREA SCHOOLS AND THE CHILDREN.

LIKE I SAID, WHO ATTEND THE FAMILIES WE SERVE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO QUESTION WHETHER THE AIR THEIR CHILDREN ARE BREATHING IS SAFE.

THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR YEARS.

PLEASE LISTEN TO THEM AND WORK RESPONSIBLY TO ELIMINATE THIS HARMFUL, NON-CONFORMING USE.

AND WHILE THIS RESOLUTION ADDRESSES FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS, WE CANNOT LOSE SIGHT OF THE GREATER COST, WHICH IS THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THIS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FLAVIO MONTEIRO. MR. MONTEIRO WILL BE YOUR FINAL SPEAKER AND WE'LL NEED TRANSLATION ASSISTANCE. ASSISTANCE? MR. MONTEIRO? OKAY. I'M READY. SI HABLA ESPANOL. OKAY. MUY BUENAS TARDES A TODOS YA TODAS. LAS GRACIAS. POR ESTA OPORTUNIDAD EXPRESAR NUESTROS SENTIMIENTOS.

SOLAMENTE ME GUSTARIA HACER UN POCO DE CONTEXTO PARA Q ES COMO EL AREA DE LA PLANTA DEL GAF.

SI ES MUY BAJO. HE'S HERE TODAY TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE THE POLLUTION COMING OUT OF GAF. SIGA HABLEMOS UN POQUITO MAS MAS FUERTE.

OKAY. SI SABEMOS TODOS DONDE ESTA FABRICA DE ROOFING IS A SINGLETON BOULEVARD. SINGLETON BOULEVARD IS A PARROQUIA.

YO SOY YO SOY MIEMBRO DE LA PARROQUIA DE LA IGLESIA CATOLICA DE TWO ANOS.

ENTONCES PARA PODER ESTAR MAS CERCA DE ESTA IGLESIA O.

MAS CERCA CON UNA CASA Y ENCONTRÉ UNA CASA JUSTAMENTE DE LA CUADRA CIERTAMENTE.

DESDE LOS PRIMEROS DIAS EMPECÉ SENTIR UN MUNDO UNO ASI COMO COMO CUANDO UN ANIMAL ESTA MUERTO YA ESTA EN ESTADO DE DESCOMPOSICION.

SO HE'S A MEMBER OF SANTA TERESITA, OUR LADY OF SAN JUAN, SANTA TERESITA ON SINGLETON BOULEVARD, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM GAF, AND BECAUSE HE IS A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH, HE TRIED TO FIND A HOME NEARBY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR HIM TO GO TO CHURCH.

WHEN HE MOVED INTO HIS HOME, WHICH HE FOUND A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET FROM GAF BEHIND THE MULTI-PURPOSE CENTER IN WEST DALLAS DURING HIS FIRST DAYS THERE HE. HE OBSERVED, AND HE SMELLED AN AWFUL STENCH, AND TO HIM THE STENCH WAS VERY HORRIBLE.

IT ALMOST EQUATED TO WHAT THE THE HORRID SMELL THAT COMES FROM LIKE A DEAD ANIMAL.

CIJA. SI ENTONCES SEGUIMOS VIVIENDO AHI AGUANTA TODO ES MALO Y DESPUÉS TAMBIÉN EMPEZAMOS A VER A POLVO NEGRO COMO UNA CENIZA NEGRA EMPEZABA CARA POR LAS TORRES Y AL DIA SIGUIENTE AMANECER EN LOS CARROS DE ESE POLVO NEGRO.

AND HE ALSO STARTED NOTICING THAT THERE WAS SOOT PARTICLES COMING DOWN ON HIS VEHICLE AND GOT HIM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE

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SIGA PERO COMO YA NO SABIAMOS MOVIDO AHI PUES.

MIS HIJOS DECIDIMOS SOPORTAR AGUANTAR AHI PUES YA NO PODEMOS SER OTRA COSA TODOS SABEMOS QUÉ ES MUY MUY SEGUIDO. YEAH. AND SO HE HAD ALREADY MOVED THERE AND IT MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE HE JUST BOUGHT A HOME TO LIVE THERE.

AND HE'S NOTICED HIM AND HIS FAMILY FAMILY ARE NOTICING ALL OF THE POLLUTION ALL AROUND HIM.

AND HE'S STATING THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT ONCE YOU MOVE INTO A HOME TO FIND ANOTHER HOME TO MOVE OUT, TO MOVE OUT AND INTO A NEW HOME. THAT'S HIS TIME.

GRACIAS, FLAVIO. YA ES EL TIEMPO. GRACIAS. THANK YOU, MR. MONTEIRO. THANK YOU, MRS. CISNEROS. MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

I'M SORRY. I'M ON THE LIST. OKAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

I'M. LAURA QUINTERO. DOWNWINDERS AT RISK. SO HAPPY EARTH DAY, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR TO PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

YOUR NAME? I SAID IT, LAURA QUINTERO. OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU. LIKE I WAS SAYING THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO ALL OF YOU TODAY.

AND JUST TO START LIKE WITH THANK YOU FOR COUNCILMAN, BAZALDUA AND COUNCILWOMAN CADENA FOR PRESENTING THE MEMO TO YOUR COLLEAGUES.

THIS MEMO IS JUST THE START OF A PROCESS FOR APPRAISAL FOR THESE TWO CORPORATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTAMINATING THESE TWO COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE BEEN STRONG, RESILIENT, AND HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR YEARS FOR THEIR RIGHT TO JUST BREATHE CLEAN AIR.

SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE. AND LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED PRIOR DOWNWINDERS AND THE COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR A PROCESS FROM THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD TO TRY TO AMORTIZE AND REMOVE THESE CORPORATIONS.

SO TODAY, LIKE I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS, AND I URGE YOU ALL TO VOTE YES ON THIS ITEM TO SEEK A PROCESS FOR APPRAISING THESE TWO CORPORATIONS. THIS IS NOT JUST THIS IS A LEGACY ITEM IN THE SENSE OF IT WILL IMPACT THE COMMUNITIES, IT WILL IMPACT THE HEALTH OF THE CONSTITUENTS WHICH YOU ALL REPRESENT.

IT ALSO IS A LEGACY FOR YOUR OWN SEAT. THIS WILL MARK, THIS IS A HISTORICAL MOMENT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO I URGE YOU GUYS TO THINK OF THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE WHO YOU REPRESENT, TO THINK OF WEST ALLIS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND THINK OF HOW WE WANT TO MOVE THE CITY OF DALLAS FORWARD AND HAVE A BETTER ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYONE THERE.

AS WE SAW, WE SAW A BUNCH OF KIDS TALKING. THEY'RE ALL URGING YOU, SO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO EVERYONE WHO IS SPEAKING, WHO IS ASKING FOR THIS. PLEASE PUT COMMUNITY MEMBERS FIRST AND PUT BUSINESS TO THE VERY END AND PUT THE THE HEALTH OF ALL YOUR CONSTITUENTS FIRST, SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND HAVE A BETTER COMMUNITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

AND WITH DALLAS AND JOPPY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THESE ARE YOUR SPEAKERS NOW, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I'M GOING TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO LAY OUT SOME GERMANENESS.

MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS TODAY IS SIMPLY TO SEEK A CONSULTANT THAT WOULD ESTIMATE THE COST REQUIRED. AND SO, CITY ATTORNEY, IF YOU WILL, PLEASE KIND OF GUIDE US IN ENSURING THAT WE ARE SPEAKING TO THE ITEM BEFORE US TODAY. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS, IS TO PROCURE A CONSULTANT TO TO CALCULATE THE AMOUNT UNDER CHAPTER 51, A 4.704.

AND THERE'S A FORMULA THERE. SO THE CITY HAS A PROCESS BY WHICH THEY CAN REQUEST THE AMORTIZATION OF A NONCONFORMING USE.

THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP. IT WOULD BE TO TO GET THE CONSULTANT TO TO CALCULATE THE COST, THAT CONSULTANT WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL, WHICH IS THE NEXT ITEM, THE NEXT NUMBER THAT SAYS NOT LATER THAN 30 DAYS AFTER THE CONSULTANT DETERMINES THE AMOUNT, THEY WOULD BRING THAT BACK TO COMMITTEE AND A REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING THEN.

THIS ALSO PERMITS TRANSFER OF FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE CONSULTANT.

THIS DOES NOT GO INTO WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNCIL DOES ACTUALLY WANT TO REFER THE ITEM TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WILL MAKE THE DETERMINATION AS TO THE ADVERSE EFFECT, IF ANY, OF EITHER ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES. SO TODAY WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE CONSULTANT, THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

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AND SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO CREATE A RECORD HERE TODAY THAT WOULD SWAY THEM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

SO THIS IS JUST ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO ESTABLISH THE OR AND CALCULATE THE AMOUNT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER INQUIRY. CHAIR MIDDLETON, COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE FURTHER ON THOSE INSTRUCTIONS THAT IF IT GOES TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THEIR DECISION UNDER CHAPTER 51 A.

THEIR JOB WOULD BE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED ON CRITERIA THAT IS IN CHAPTER 51, AS TO WHETHER OR NOT EITHER ONE OF THESE USES HAS AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THAT WOULD BE THEIR JOB TO DO.

BUT ONCE THEY DETERMINE THAT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THOUGH? IF THEY DETERMINE THAT, THEN YOU WOULD TAKE THAT INFORMATION.

THEY WOULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. AND THEN WELL, I REALLY DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT TODAY.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DOES IT COME BACK TO COUNCIL OR IS THAT SOME DECISION THAT WE ARE THEN DELEGATING TO AN ADVISORY GROUP? WELL, THE BOARD MAKES THAT DETERMINATION. WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU WOULD BE MAKING THE REQUEST FOR THEM TO DO THAT ANALYSIS.

YOU WOULD HAVE ALREADY PUT THE FUNDS ASIDE FOR IT.

AND SO YOU'LL YOU'LL DO THAT NEXT IF YOU AGREE WITH WHAT'S BEING CALCULATED.

BUT SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT BY HIRING THE CONSULTANT, WE'RE WERE ALSO DELEGATING THIS DECISION TO NOT YET KNOW.

IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THE WITH THE CALCULATED AMOUNT AND COUNCIL WOULD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO PUT ASIDE NONCONFORMING USE FUNDS BASED ON THE CALCULATION. AND IF YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU WOULD ALSO REQUEST THAT IT GO TO THE BOARD.

THANK YOU. THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. I WANT TO FIRST JUST START BY THANKING MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER CARINA IN DISTRICT SIX, BUT ALSO TO COUNCILMEMBER COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBERS, WEST, GRACEY AND BLACKMON, WHO ALSO HELPED BY SIGNING THE MEMO TO GET THIS ON THE AGENDA.

I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON GERMANENESS FOR THE, THE BIGGEST REASON, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT'S MOST IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOT SEND FALSE INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

AND I THINK A LOT OF SPEAKERS DID THAT TODAY, WHETHER IT WAS INTENTIONAL OR NOT.

I THINK THAT THE FOCUS HERE IS BEYOND WHAT THIS IS, AND WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING TODAY IS AN INFORMATION EXERCISE.

THAT'S IT. WE'RE ASKING FOR INFORMATION. WE ARE ASKING FOR APPRAISED VALUES.

THAT'S THE EXTENT OF WHAT IT IS THAT OUR FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO ASKED FOR.

THAT IS THE EXTENT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, THERE IS NO OTHER CONVERSATION THAT CAN EVEN BE HAD IF WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARY INFORMATION TO HAVE IT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. SO THE FEAR MONGERING, THE HEART STRINGS AND ALL OF THE STUFF THAT IS IRRELEVANT TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING HERE TODAY IS, IS REALLY JUST NOISE AND DISTRACTION.

TODAY WE ARE DOING SOMETHING FOR THE FIRST TIME OUR CITY HAS EVER DONE BECAUSE IT WAS TRIGGERED BY LEGISLATION THAT IS NEW.

WHEN THIS LEGISLATION DIDN'T EXIST, WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS OPTION.

SO NOW WE ARE GOING THROUGH AN EXERCISE THAT IS GOING TO INFORM US SPECIFICALLY ABOUT A COUPLE OF BUSINESSES, BUT THEN TO ALLOW FOR US TO EVALUATE WHAT THAT PROCESS COULD LOOK LIKE IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER IT.

THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE OR THE YEAR BEFORE BECAUSE OF THE LEGISLATION.

WE ARE NOW ENTERTAINING AN EXERCISE TO GET MORE INFORMED.

THAT'S THE EXTENT OF IT, AND I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S COMMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF ADVOCATING ON WHATEVER SIDE YOU'RE ON.

BUT AGAIN, LET'S EMPHASIZE WHAT THIS IS. I SAY THAT EMPHATICALLY BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM SOME MEDIA.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S MEDIA HERE AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE MISINFORMATION.

AND THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE'S GOAL AND AGENDA HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS UP TO THIS POINT.

SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME OBJECTIVE INFORMATION TO EVALUATE AND DO OUR JOBS AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CADENA FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES WHO SIGNED ON THIS MEMO WITH ME.

COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA WEST, GRACEY AND BLACKMON SB 929 SIGNIFICANTLY LIMITED A MUNICIPALITY'S

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I WANT TO THANK THE LEGAL TEAM THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS.

THEY MAKE CHANGES. THIS DID TAKE A LONG TIME.

I WAS A STAFFER WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS.

AND SO TO GET TO THIS POINT. AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INITIATE THIS.

AND SO IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED QUICKLY.

BUT I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT HELPED WITH THIS.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE AND THAT GAVE INPUT AND PROVIDED YOUR VOICE.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM YOU, BUT IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THE INFORMATION CORRECT, THAT THIS IS AN EVALUATION AND THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE US WITH MORE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO TO HAVE SOME OPTIONS AND TO MAKE A DECISION.

THANKS SO MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

THANK YOU. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND CERTAINLY I, I'M SENSITIVE TO THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY GENERALLY.

THIS IS TO ME, THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE TAKING IS VERY NARROW.

IT'S REALLY TALKING ABOUT SPENDING MONEY TO GET A, PROPOSAL.

AND MY QUESTION TO THE GROUP IS, IS, IS HOW DID WE ESTABLISH THE $200,000 AS THE MAGIC NUMBER TO ASK FOR NUMBER ONE? AND NUMBER TWO, WHERE DOES THIS MONEY COME FROM? HOW DO WE ALLOCATE IT AND WHERE DO WE FIND IT TO PAY FOR IT? CITY MANAGER, CAN WE GET SOMEONE? I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE 200 000 AMOUNT, BUT THE THE TRANSFER OF FUNDS WOULD BE FROM THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY RESERVE FUND.

I LINE ITEM THREE IN THAT POSTING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, JACK IRELAND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER THE FUNDING FOR THE AGENDA ITEM FOR THE ASSESSMENT.

THE STUDY IS FROM CONTINGENCY RESERVE FUNDS, SO WE HAVE CONTINGENCY RESERVE WITH A CURRENT BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY.

$11 MILLION, I BELIEVE. APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION IN CONTINGENCY RESERVE.

AND SO THIS AGENDA ITEM WOULD USE 200,000 OF THAT TO MOVE FROM CONTINGENCY RESERVES INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. AND DO WE IS THIS IS THE 200 000 IS A MAXIMUM NUMBER.

WE HAVEN'T, HAVE WE GOTTEN AN INDICATION OF WHAT THESE CONSULTANTS CHARGE? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO ASK FOR AN APPRAISAL OR AN AMORTIZATION OF BUSINESS EVALUATION.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE THAT NUMBER IS COMING FROM AND IF IT'S IF THAT 200,000 IS REALLY THE, THE NEEDED REQUEST OR WHETHER WE SHOULD ASK FOR FOR LESS.

SO THE THE REQUEST FOR THE $200,000 CAME FROM THE REQUESTING DEPARTMENT PLANNING.

THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DEVELOPED THAT PROJECTION ON WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS BUDGETED IN THEIR CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.

THEREFORE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM ON WHAT THAT NEED WOULD BE AND CONTINGENCY RESERVE, WHICH IS THE SOURCE OF FUNDS THAT WE HAD INDICATED LAST SUMMER THAT IF THESE ITEMS CAME FORWARD THAT WE WOULD TURN TO AND USE CONTINGENCY RESERVE FOR, FOR THIS PURPOSE. HAVE WE HAVE WE IN IN THEIR EVALUATION OF IT, DID THEY GET SOME GUIDANCE FROM SOMEWHERE, OR WAS THIS JUST SORT OF A, AN AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN BEEN SORT OF EVALUATED GENERALLY FOR SIMILAR TYPES OF PROCESS? AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO, TO, TO CRITICIZE THE SITUATION.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE COMING UP WITH THESE BIG NUMBERS TO SPEND FOR CONSULTING FEES.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH. ANDREA, WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, IT WAS A VERY EDUCATED AS MUCH AS WE COULD GUESS.

WE CAME WITH THE AMOUNT. WE CONSULTED WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT USUALLY ARE INVOLVED IN SUCH VALUATIONS, AND THEY TOLD US LIKE A GOOD AMOUNT THAT WOULD COVER SUCH A SERVICE WOULD BE 100,000 PER SITE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE PROPOSED. WOULD THE, WOULD THE PROCUREMENT BE A COMPETITIVE BIDDING TYPE OF A SITUATION.

WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FAR. SO WE WANTED TO SEE IF COUNCIL WILL DIRECT US TO DO SO.

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THANK YOU. CHAIR MENDELSOHN FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

WELL, FIRST, I WANT TO SAY TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING HERE IT'S NOT LOST THAT MANY OF US WERE NOT HERE THROUGH ALL YOUR COMMENTS, BUT I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT EVEN IF WE WEREN'T, WE WERE JUST BEHIND THIS WALL EATING LUNCH, WATCHING YOU ON SCREEN AND LISTENING TO YOU. SO EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO SPOKE, WE DID HEAR YOU.

SO DON'T THINK WE WERE WALKING OUT AND NOT LISTENING BECAUSE WE WERE.

AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LOT OF HOURS AND WE DID HEAR YOU.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT BECAUSE IT IS A CHUNK OF TIME AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING YOU CARE A LOT ABOUT.

I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED.

JACK, IF YOU DON'T MIND, THE GENERAL FUND CONTINGENCY RESERVE ACCOUNT WITH THE APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION, HOW MANY DAYS OF OPERATION DOES THAT EQUATE TO APPROXIMATELY? SO THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE ON ITS OWN THAT IS NOT WHAT WE CALCULATE FOR THAT, BUT IT'S FOR THE TOTAL UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, WHICH INCLUDES OUR EMERGENCY RESERVE, CONTINGENCY RESERVE, RESIDUAL FUNDS, THE EMPLOYEE HEALTH BENEFIT RESERVE.

AND SO THE TOTAL NUMBER IS 68 DAYS AND A TOTAL OF 350 OF $354 MILLION IN OUR UNASSIGNED BALANCE. GOT IT. AND AND THE F AND PQ CRITERIA ON THAT IS TO BE BETWEEN 50 AND 70 DAYS. AND WE'RE NOW BASED ON THE CLOSE OF LAST YEAR AT ABOUT 68 DAYS.

AND WOULDN'T A REQUEST LIKE THIS GENERALLY COME THROUGH THE BUDGET? LIKE WE WOULD JUST HOLD THIS AND YOU WOULD PLAN FOR IT IN THE BUDGET IF THAT WAS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL, AND WE COULD DEBATE IT IN AUGUST AND PASS IT IN SEPTEMBER.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT WILL FOR THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE.

I'M SORRY FOR THIS KIND OF EFFORT TO HIRE A CONSULTANT THAT WAS NOT PLANNED FOR.

YEAH. AND SO THE CONSULTANT, WE WOULD USE CONTINGENCY RESERVE BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A BUDGETED ITEM.

BUT IF THERE'S IF THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT'S DETERMINED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE EXPENDITURES.

WE HAVE NOT BUDGETED FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES.

SO WE WOULD COME TO COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON WHERE TO TAKE THAT FUNDING FROM, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE TO TAKE IT OUT OF THAT RESERVE AMOUNT THAT I MENTIONED, OR IF IT WOULD BECOME A FUTURE BUDGET ITEM, OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO DIRECT US ON HOW TO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

STAFF, OF COURSE, WOULD BRING YOU RECOMMENDATION WITH SOME OPTIONS.

SO OF COURSE, YOU'RE WORKING ON THE BUDGET FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR RIGHT NOW.

GENERALLY YOU'RE SCHEDULED TO PRESENT THAT TO US IN THREE AND A HALF MONTHS.

SO THE WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE BRIEFING ON MAY THE 6TH.

AND THEN I BELIEVE IT'S JUNE 17TH. THE ACTUAL BUDGET WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU THE SECOND WEEK IN OCTOBER, IN AUGUST, AND WE WILL BRING YOU A BALANCED BUDGET AT THAT TIME.

OKAY. SO AGAIN, LESS THAN FOUR MONTHS. I'LL SAY THREE AND A HALF.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH WAS GETTING TO THE POINT ABOUT WHERE FUNDING WOULD COME FROM IF WE WERE GOING TO PUT FUNDS INTO A NON CONFORMING USE FUND. AND WOULD THAT JUST COME FROM GENERAL FUNDS? THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED. WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON WHAT THAT POTENTIAL COST WOULD BE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A DOLLAR OR $100 MILLION.

SO I'M SURE IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE THIS EVALUATION DETERMINES TO COME UP WITH OPTIONS, BUT IT WILL BE EITHER FROM RESERVES OR GENERAL FUND OR CASH.

WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE DEBT FOR THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND SO THE POINT OF THE CONTRACT IS TO DETERMINE WHAT THIS NUMBER WOULD BE.

AND NUMBER ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COME THROUGH THE BUDGET SO THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THE SPENDING CATEGORIES ALL AT ONCE.

AND THE PUSH PULL THAT WE SEE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSING LIBRARIES.

WHAT ABOUT POOLS? WHAT ABOUT THIS? WHAT ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL? LIKE ALL THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE ON THE SAME TABLE AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION INSTEAD OF THE ONE OFF DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING THAT LEAD US TO A VERY DIFFICULT PLACE, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT THE DOLLARS THAT WE NEED FOR THE MOST CORE SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS REPEATEDLY TELL US ABOUT.

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OUR COMMUNITY SURVEY PUTS ENVIRONMENTAL AT ONE OF THE VERY LOWEST PRIORITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS, CONSISTENTLY YEAR AFTER YEAR. SO THERE'S VERY REAL AND WORTHY DEBATE ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL HOMELESSNESS, STREETS, PUBLIC SAFETY. I MEAN, ANY NUMBER OF CONSIDERATIONS.

AND I'LL JUST SAY FOR ME, I WANT TO LOOK AT ALL OF IT TOGETHER IN A PLANNED, MEASURED WAY, NOT REACTIONARY TO TO, FRANKLY, RESIDENT CONCERNS.

AND I GET THOSE CONCERNS AND I CARE ABOUT THEM.

AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IMPACTED BY NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF THINGS HAPPENING AT BOTH THOSE FACILITIES.

BUT WE DIDN'T GET THE BRIEFING ON WHAT PLANS THEY ALREADY HAVE TO LEAVE.

WHAT TIME FRAME THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW MUCH FASTER IT WOULD BE AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL COST WOULD BE.

WE HAVE HEARD NUMBERS, THOUGH, THAT ARE IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

NOW, WE'VE SOMETIMES HEARD NUMBERS THAT ARE LIKE $1 BILLION THAT ARE ALSO RIDICULOUS.

BUT EVEN IF WE SAY IT'S 10%, DO WE HAVE $30 MILLION? SO IF IF WE WERE ASKED TODAY TO FUND $30 MILLION WITH CASH, OUR RECOMMENDATION MOST LIKELY WOULD BE TO USE PART OF OUR EMERGENCY RESERVE FUNDS FOR THAT PURPOSE AND DIPPING INTO $100 MILLION.

IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO PAY OUT OF CASH, WE EITHER HAVE RESERVES OR WE WOULD HAVE TO BUDGET IT INTO THE ANNUAL BUDGET.

WELL, AND THAT GOES BACK TO MY FIRST COMMENTS ABOUT WANTING TO LOOK AT IT TOGETHER, BECAUSE POINT OF ORDER, BUDGETARY IMPACTS. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. THESE HYPOTHETICALS DON'T FALL GERMANE TO THE TOPIC ON THE AGENDA.

CHAIR MENDELSOHN, LET'S TRY TO GET BACK IN. I UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS.

THE QUESTION, I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS ENTIRE POINT IS FOR HIRING A CONSULTANT FOR $200,000, WHICH IS NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THE PURPOSE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY SAID IS SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.

IT'S TO SATISFY A CURIOSITY, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE SHOULD SPEND $200,000 TO FIND OUT A NUMBER THAT WE ACTUALLY ALREADY KNOW WE CAN'T AFFORD. AND IF WE CAN, THEN WE NEED TO DO IT WITH THE FULL BUDGET.

AND THAT'S WHERE THIS 200 000 BELONGS IN THAT EFFORT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S RESPONSES FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE.

I WILL WE'LL SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT, TO MY COLLEAGUE'S POINT, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALL, YOU KNOW, REPRESENT OUR CONSTITUENCIES, OUR RESPECTIVE CONSTITUENCIES, AND THAT IN LARGE MEANS WE DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND THE DIALOG THAT'S BEEN ONGOING BETWEEN REPRESENTATIVES AND WHO WE REPRESENT.

THIS HAS BEEN YEARS, IN FACT, I BELIEVE EVERY YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.

THIS WAS TALKED ABOUT ACTUALLY BY JACK AT OUR BUDGET TOWN HALL LAST YEAR, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING HAVING A NEW COUNCIL COME ON AND SPEAKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CADENA.

AND ALTHOUGH THIS IS JUST NOW HERE, EVEN THE NOTION OF US PUTTING TOGETHER A FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO BEGAN LAST JULY AND THAT WAS STEMMED FROM MULTIPLE YEARS PRIOR.

AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS LEGISLATION THAT WAS NOW TRIGGERED.

SO ALL THAT IS A LITTLE CONTEXT THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS ISN'T SOMETHING NEW.

AND I WOULDN'T EXPECT SOMEBODY FROM FAR NORTH DALLAS TO KNOW ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HAD WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT NAUSEAM. IN ADDITION TO THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON, IF YOU WILL RESPOND, HOW MUCH DID YOU HAVE TO FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR TO SAVE THE SKILLMAN LIBRARY FOR AN EXTRA YEAR? CAN MAY I ANSWER ON HIS TIME? GO AHEAD.

A LOT. AND IT'S STILL CLOSED AND IT'S STILL CLOSED.

THE THE INITIAL FIGHT WAS UNDER 100,000. IT VARIED.

IT DEPEND ON HOW MANY HOURS. SO LET'S COME BACK TO THE ITEM.

YEAH. I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE THAT THE, THAT THERE'S, IT'S REALLY RICH TO HEAR SOMEONE WHO, WHO FIGHTS AGAINST SAVING SOME CRITICAL SERVICES DURING OUR BUDGET SEASON.

AND ACT AS IF $200,000 IS NOMINAL, WHEN IT'S WHEN IT'S NOT, AND WHEN WE HAVE AN IDENTIFIED FUND AND AN IDENTIFIED FUND THAT OUR CFO ANSWERED

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SO FOR THAT, WE HAVE FUNDS IDENTIFIED. WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY WHO HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THEMSELVES FOR YEARS, AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE WILLING TO DO WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THEIR REPRESENT THEIR, THEIR CONSTITUENCY. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL TO ALLOW FOR THOSE CONSTITUENTS TO GET THE NECESSARY INFORMATION, REGARDLESS OF IF YOU THINK THERE'S A BETTER TIME FOR US TO BE DOING THIS OR NOT.

I THINK THE BEST TIME TO DO THAT IS NOW. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES. I GLADLY SIGNED THIS FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO BECAUSE WHEN I WAS CHAIR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE, WE STARTED THE PROCESS FOR A GAF MOVING OUT OF WEST DALLAS AND WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS OUR CITIES.

CITIES ARE DYNAMIC, THEY EVOLVE. AND AT ONE TIME IT MADE SENSE FOR INDUSTRIES TO BE LOCATED IN A CERTAIN AREA.

BUT AS YOU INVEST IN, YOU KNOW, WE INVESTED HIGHLY IN WEST DALLAS DID WE MISS? WE'RE NOW LOOKING TO GO SOUTH INTO INTO THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR CITY.

SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT AS CITIES EVOLVE, THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY EVOLVE WITH IT.

AND IN JUST YOUR LAND USE GOES WITH IT. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN BY THESE TWO COMMUNITIES, IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. IT IS EASY TO ACCESS.

AND SO I WELCOME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BECAUSE THIS IS STILL AN INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHATEVER IT COMES BACK. BUT THE 200,000 IS TO MAKE A DECISION ON IS IT WHAT'S THE ROI? DOES IT IS IT REALLY COMPUTE? AND AND SO I APPLAUD YOU ALL FOR SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED THIS INFORMATION TO MAKE A, A, A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST TALKING IN GENERALITIES.

IF WE DON'T SAY IT'S GOING TO COST X. SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT.

I WAS HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT WHEN I WAS CHAIR. I BELIEVE THAT WE AS A CITY HAVE REALLY HARMED INDIVIDUALS AND IT WAS INTENTIONAL.

WE DID IT INTENTIONAL. AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO STOP AND WE NEED TO TO REALLY OWN WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND TRY TO MAKE IT RIGHT MOVING FORWARD.

SO I APPLAUD YOU AND I WILL STAND WITH YOU AND.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THE PROCESS MOVES FORWARD.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS. THANK YOU. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT THERE MIGHT BE A PERCEPTION THAT ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ARE LIMITED TO CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN.

ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS CONCERN US ALL, REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU LIVE.

NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A FINANCIAL BUDGETING ISSUE.

THIS IS NOT A REFERENDUM ON WHETHER OR NOT WE APPROVE CONTAMINATION.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, FOLKS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO ESTABLISH A BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDERWATER FOR.

IF WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO NUMBERS NOW, I'M NOT THE FACTS THAT EVERYBODY IS HERE, ALL THE STUFF THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN TO IS REALLY INFORMATIVE FOR ME AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO WHEN WE ARE CRAFTING OUR BUDGET IN ESTABLISHING HOW ARE WE GOING TO SPEND OUR MONEY AND THE VOCAL IMPORTANCE AND THE AND THE TONES AND THE INFORMATION GIVEN TO US IS ALL SIGNIFICANT IN HELPING US TO PRIORITIZE THESE KIND OF EXPENDITURES.

WHEN WE ARE CRAFTING OUR BUDGET, I THINK THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE WOULD BE THAT WE AS A BODY, THAT WE CONSIDER MAYBE AMENDING THE MOTION TO SAY THAT WE WILL GIVE THIS ISSUE A PRIORITY DURING OUR BUDGETING PROCESS AND, AND, AND GIVE IT SOME ATTENTION AT THAT TIME.

THIS IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH, AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD PIECEMEAL OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, WHICH ARE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.

AND WE ARE WE'RE GOING TO REALLY BE STRUGGLING WITH GETTING THE MONEY TOGETHER AS TO HOW WE'RE DOING THINGS.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IF IF THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND IT TO SAY, RATHER THAN APPROVE THIS AMOUNT NOW,

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THANK YOU. CHAIR GRACEY FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S BEEN REPEATED AND IT'S BEEN SAID, BUT SINCE STATE LAW HAS HAS MADE THE CHANGES AND REQUIRED ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ACTUALLY EXECUTE WHAT SOME OF THE TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX ARE TO ACTUALLY EXPLORE THIS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST IF.

IF. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOW IN NON-CONFORMING USE WHATEVER IT IS.

THIS IS TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST US. SO THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IT, BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING THE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS AS WELL TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING.

AND AGAIN, I JUST, I ALWAYS HAVE TO COME BACK TO WHAT WE ALL SAID AS A BODY IN TERMS OF WHAT FORWARD DALLAS WAS INTENDED TO DO, WHAT ITS PURPOSE WAS. AND WE ALL HAD DESIGNATED AREAS FOR THESE TYPE OF THINGS.

SO THIS, AGAIN, IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS BETTER FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE BUSINESSES. IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE OPERATING IN A NONCONFORMING USE.

THIS GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT. SO I CAN SUPPORT EXPLORING WHAT IT WOULD COST TO SEE WHERE WE WOULD GO.

WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ON ARE WE WILLING TO PAY THAT TO DO THAT? BUT AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSER, I THINK I'M ENCOURAGED BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING IN THE WAY THAT WE CAN SET OUT AND BUILD A CITY THAT IS MEANT FOR EVERYONE. SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS FROM THERE.

AND I DO APPRECIATE WHAT WE'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF THE COST, BUT THIS IS THE TIME TO BE DOING IT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET CONVERSATIONS.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I WILL SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU CHAIR.

JOHNSON FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR. I CONCUR WITH WHAT MY COLLEAGUE SAID.

I CAN'T I CAN ALSO SUPPORT THIS TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY.

I PASTOR IN WEST DALLAS. I WAS A TRUSTEE OF WEST DALLAS.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND, AND THAT'S THE THING THAT'S CALLED ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM.

AND WE CAN'T IGNORE ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAD TO DEAL WITH THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES THAT CREATED HEALTH CHALLENGES AND.

ET CETERA. SO WHILE WE ARE EXPLORING AND WHILE WE ARE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT I HEAR YOUR VOICE AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR. I'M TWO OF GRASSROOT AND AN ACTIVIST AND ETCETERA, AND I SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER, AND I DON'T CARE WHO GETS OFFENDED ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE'VE LIVED IN, AND WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH ISSUES THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NOT HAD TO DEAL WITH ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR.

AND SO WHILE WE ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AS A COUNCIL, PLEASE KNOW THAT EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND WE HEAR YOUR VOICE AND YOU HAVE SOMEONE YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON UP HERE THAT WILL BE ADVOCATING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR VOICES ARE HEARD EVEN WHEN WE'RE, WHEN YOU'RE NOT IN THIS PARTICULAR CHAMBER, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON YOUR BEHALF.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S KNOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CHAIR STEWART. JUST A VERY QUICK COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK YET STILL TO DO TODAY.

BUT MR. MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT AS THE CURRENT CHAIR OF PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENT, I SUPPORT THIS NEXT STEP. WE DO NEED THIS INFORMATION AND AND I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CADENA. WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN WEST DALLAS DID NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, AND OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ADVOCATED FOR YEARS. WE'VE MADE SOME STRIDES AND SOME SETBACKS.

AFTER I WAS ELECTED, I ALSO STARTED THE SINGLETON CORRIDOR, AUTHORIZED HEARING THAT COMMISSIONER CARPENTER INITIATED THAT WILL ALLOW HOMES CURRENTLY PLACED ON INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO ADJUST ISSUES WITH ZONING.

THE AUTHORIZED HEARING ALLOWS FOR REZONING WITH COMMUNITY INPUT.

THESE DISCUSSIONS INCLUDE RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS.

IN 2015, A CONCRETE PLANT BROUGHT ME TO CITY HALL FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I CAME WITH MY AUNT AROUND THE SAME TIME WEST DALLAS ONE WAS FORMED WITH WITH MR. RONNIE MESTAS. THE CITY GAVE ARGOS $3 MILLION TO MOVE VERY CLOSE TO THE GAS PLANT.

SO THIS IS $200,000 TO FIGURE OUT AND TO GIVE INFORMATION FOR US TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU.

CHAIR MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ASK IF THERE'S A STAFF MEMBER WHO COULD DO THIS WORK INSTEAD OF A CONSULTANT.

I WAS TOLD.

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WE DO NOT HAVE THE COMPETENCY TO DO SUCH AN ANALYSIS.

AND WHAT ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT. ARE YOU NOT ALLOWED TO GET ASSISTANCE FROM THEM.

YES. BUT I THINK THIS IS ABOUT THE EVALUATION OF OPERATIONS AS IS PRESCRIBED INTO INTO THE CODE.

I DON'T THINK WE DO HAVE THAT COMPETENCY, AT LEAST IN OUR DEPARTMENT, AND I DON'T THINK SO.

IT SOUNDS ACTUALLY LIKE IT MIGHT BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE BEST SUITED FOR THIS WORK.

I WOULD NOT VENTURE. SO HAS THERE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT CONVERSATION AT THE CITY MANAGEMENT LEVEL TO SAY, WE'VE GOT 14,000 EMPLOYEES. WE HAVE NO ANALYSTS AVAILABLE TO WORK.

STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS GERMANE TO THE APPRAISALS THAT IS LISTED ON OUR AGENDA.

I BELIEVE THIS IS ABOUT IF THIS CONTRACT IS NECESSARY.

WELL, THAT'S FOR THE PRESIDING OFFICER TO DECIDE.

SO THE SO YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION. SO I'LL MAKE SURE I GET IT.

MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A STAFF MEMBER AT THE CITY OF DALLAS WHO COULD DO THIS WORK INSTEAD OF HIRING A.

I'M GOING TO LET THE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE OPINE, BUT I BELIEVE WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT STUDY TO DETERMINE THAT.

BUT CITY MANAGER FOR LEGAL REASONS OR BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TALENT.

THANK YOU MAYOR. YES. THIS IS THERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC FORMULA THAT HAS TO BE USED AND BASED ON STATE LAW.

AND HISTORICALLY, WE HAVE ANY TIME, ANY TIME THE BOARD HAS HAS DETERMINED THAT A USE NEEDS TO BE AMORTIZED OUT.

WE HAVE TO HIRE INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE. USUALLY IT'S AN ACCOUNTANT OR SOMEBODY THAT CAN ANALYZE THE NUMBERS AND AND GIVE THOSE.

WE NEED TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENCE HERE. OKAY. WELL, I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. SECOND. CHAIR MENDELSOHN FIVE MINUTES.

WELL, I THINK IT'S IT'S SIMPLE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THE COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE AREA YOU REPRESENT TO THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.

I HAVE ACTUALLY MET WITH JAYNIE CISNEROS ABOUT THIS.

BUT WE CAN'T BE MAKING THESE DECISIONS IN SILOS AND.

ALREADY YOU CAN SEE THAT STAFF HASN'T EVEN TALKED TO THE OTHER STAFF TO SEE WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $200,000 TO DO A STUDY THAT WE ALREADY PROBABLY KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS WITH THE BIG PICTURE IN MIND.

AND WHAT ARE WE UP TO? A 5.4 BILLION ESTIMATED BUDGET.

SO IF THIS COUNCIL THINKS IT'S IMPORTANT FOR $200,000, WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND IT.

AND THAT'S HOW YOU'LL KNOW, AND THAT'S HOW YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MEASURE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT STUDY, BUT WE ALSO DIDN'T HAVE THE BRIEFING THAT SAYS, GOSH, GAF HAS ALREADY AGREED TO LEAVE HERE.

AND THEN SO IT'S ALL ABOUT HAVING THE WHOLE STORY, THE BIG PICTURE, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.

THIS FEELS VERY REACTIONARY TO PRESSURE FROM ADVOCACY GROUPS.

CHAIR MENDELSOHN. THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO AGAINST YOUR TIME, BUT IF YOU CAN RESTATE YOUR YOUR MOTION.

MY MOTION IS TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO INCLUDE THIS 200 000 IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

SO ARE YOU ASKING FOR THIS ITEM TO BE HELD TODAY? YES. TO DEFER THIS ITEM. WELL, I GUESS I I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THE RIGHT WORD WOULD BE THEN BECAUSE TO SUBSTITUTE THE CONTRACT INSTEAD TO DIRECT FOR BUDGET CONSIDERATION.

RIGHT? WE'RE DISCUSSING OVER HERE. IT SEEMS LIKE YOUR YOUR ITEM WILL EFFECTIVELY KILL THE ITEM THAT'S BEFORE US.

SO I'M GOING TO LET THE THE CITY ATTORNEY WEIGH IN.

YEAH. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S GERMANE TO I MEAN, IT'S IN ORDER TO SUBSTITUTE THE ENTIRE THING FOR A DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER, YOU COULD DEFER IT OR HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL THE CITY MANAGER BUDGETS THE ITEM IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET OR,

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SURE. THEN IN THAT CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT THIS ITEM BE SENT TO THE COJ COMMITTEE FOR EVALUATION, ALONG WITH DIRECTION TO THE MANAGER TO CONSIDER THIS FOR THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY, DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? YES.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE YOUR YOUR TIME.

WELL, I THINK WE WE SORT OF JUST TALKED IT OUT AS I WAS MAKING THE MOTION, SO I APOLOGIZE.

BUT CHAIRMAN JOHNSON, WHO YOU CAN SEE IS NODDING HIS HEAD, IS WILLING TO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA AND HAVE THE ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACT. AND IF THERE'S A SMARTER WAY TO DO IT, MEANING DO WE HAVE PEOPLE DO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL COST FOR THE CONSULTANTS? DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE DO. AND HOW WE CAN FIT THIS IN WITH THE OVERALL BUDGET.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS DELAY. I THINK THAT IT IS POINTLESS, QUITE FRANKLY. I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE LOSING A DEBATE AND YOU WANT TO PULL OUT FOR STRAWS, BUT IT'S IT'S BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT THERE'S BEEN A CONSENSUS THAT'S WILLING TO ACTUALLY HAVE ADEQUATE INFORMATION BEFORE MAKING ANY FURTHER DECISION. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AND I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR SO THAT THE COLLEAGUES KNOW THIS WASN'T A A SURPRISE.

BE A QUICK PROCESS. BUT SEE, THIS FUNDING SOURCE WAS ACTUALLY AN ANSWER TO A QUESTION FROM MY COMMUNITY AT A BUDGET TOWN HALL FROM OUR CFO.

THIS WAS NOT A SURPRISE. THIS IS NOT ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL.

THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BY OUR BUDGET OFFICE DURING THE BUDGET SEASON.

SO PUTTING THIS OFF TO OUR NEXT BUDGET SEASON WOULD BE ASKING US TO GO BACK TO OUR CFO AND ASK THE SAME QUESTION WHEN WHEN THE THE ULTIMATE EXERCISE IS TO MAKE AMENDMENTS DURING BUDGET SEASON.

SO I JUST I JUST BELIEVE THAT THIS IS DELAYING THE INEVITABLE.

IF THERE IS THERE'S A WILL OF THIS BODY. IF THEN IF, IF THE MOTION WAS TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO REPLACE THE $200,000 IN THE BUDGET SEASON AT TO THE CONTINGENCY FUND, I'D BE FULLY SUPPORTIVE IF IT'S STRICTLY ABOUT WHERE THE $200,000 IS COMING FROM, OR THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO SAVE $200,000 THAT'S BEING USED IN THE CONTINGENCY FUND, THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD SUPPORT. BUT TO JUST PUT IT OFF AS A DELAY TACTIC AND WANTING TO, TO VET THIS OUT IN A COMMITTEE WHEN WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IT THROUGH A COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS HERE AROUND THE COUNCIL.

SO I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT PURPOSE IT WOULD SERVE.

AND I THINK A DELAY IS A TACTIC TO KILL BECAUSE THE MOTION WAS FOUND.

NOT APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE EFFECTIVELY DONE THE SAME AS WELL.

JACK, DID YOU WANT TO ADD. YEAH. THANK YOU SIR.

SO I REMEMBER EXACTLY THE MEETING AT MLK THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BOTH MISS TOLBERT CITY MANAGER AND MYSELF AS YOUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WERE BOTH AT THAT MEETING. AND THE QUESTIONS DID COME UP ABOUT WHETHER WE HAD INCLUDED IT IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET OR NOT.

AND WE HAD NOT WE HAD NOT PUT FUNDS INTO THE BUDGET.

AND I BELIEVE WE EXPLAINED TO THE COMMUNITY AT THAT POINT THAT IF A FIVE PERSON, FIVE MEMBER SIGNATURE CAME FORWARD WITH THE FIVE SIGNATURES, THEN IT WOULD COME BEFORE COUNCIL. OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM MISS TOLBERT MYSELF WOULD BE TO USE CONTINGENCY RESERVE SO THAT THIS PROCESS COULD MOVE FORWARD SO THAT THE APPRAISAL, THE EVALUATION COULD BE DONE AND DETERMINE WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WOULD BE.

SO IT WAS THE THE RESPONSE THAT WE GAVE TO YOUR COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT ABOUT THAT. AND THAT IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAD INCLUDED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET, BUT KNOWING THAT IF IT CAME UP, THEN THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD COME FROM US.

BUT OF COURSE, IT'S UP TO YOU ON WHETHER YOU APPROVE IT OR NOT.

THANK YOU, JACK AND CITY MANAGER, CAN YOU CHIME IN ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE? BECAUSE WE DID HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS LEADING UP TO ACTUALLY HAVING THIS COME TO FRUITION ON THIS FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO.

WE EXPLAIN THE IMPACT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE IN USING THIS 200,000 FROM THE CONTINGENCY FUND, EVERYTHING JACK SAID. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND I AM QUITE REMEMBERING THE MEETING THAT WE HAD WHERE THE COMMUNITY SHOWED UP.

AND THIS WAS A DIRECT QUESTION AND IT WAS A BIG CONCERN DURING THE BUDGET TOWN HALL DISCUSSIONS.

AND SO THE WAY WE'VE LAID IT OUT, WE WERE TRULY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THIS WAS A PRIORITY OF THE COUNCIL,

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AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PULLING FUNDS FROM ANY PARTICULAR SERVICE LINE AT THIS POINT.

BUT IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PROCEED TODAY AND THEN COME BACK WITHIN THE BUDGET AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT FUNDING GETS RESTORED, WE WOULD BUILD THAT INTO OUR APPROACH THAT WE TAKE WITH THE BUDGET.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS TRULY A WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE.

AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY EVIDENT THAT THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME NUMBERS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE.

AND THEN AT THAT POINT STILL GIVE ADDITIONAL DIRECTION THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED, THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET, THAT IT WOULD BE BUILT IN AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT WHEN WE PRESENT THE BUDGET TO YOU DURING THE MONTH OF AUGUST.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IF SOMETHING CAME BACK TO US TODAY, THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY HAVE ANOTHER BUCKET THAT WE WOULD GO AND PULL FROM.

SO IF THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THIS PROCESS, AND THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL, GET ADDITIONAL DATA AROUND WHAT THE COST MIGHT BE, AND YOU ASK US TO THEN MAKE THAT BE A PRIORITY AS WE DEVELOP THE BUDGET, THEN TO. IN MY OPINION, THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY FORWARD. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE $200,000 TODAY TAKES US AWAY FROM ANY OF OUR CURRENT PRIORITIES, AND ANY OF THE BUDGET ITEMS THAT YOU'VE ASKED US TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS YEAR WITH THE EXISTING FUNDING THAT WE HAVE THAT'S BEEN APPROPRIATED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MADAM CITY MANAGER. YES, THANK YOU, MADAM CITY MANAGER AND MAYOR PRO TEM, CAN YOU PLEASE IF IF YOU'RE WILLING I CAN'T REMEMBER.

WAS IT YOUR COMMITTEE THAT WE HAD THE MEMO ON? SO FOR ANOTHER REASON, I BELIEVE THIS MOTION TO BE INAPPROPRIATE, WE WENT THROUGH THE PROPER PROTOCOL IN OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE TO GET A FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO THAT WAS ADDRESSED TO THE MAYOR. THE NEXT STEP IN THAT PROCESS IS THE MAYOR DESIGNATES A COMMITTEE THAT HE BELIEVES IT TO BE MOST APPROPRIATE, TO BE DEBATED ON. HE CHOSE THAT TO BE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THIS MOTION IS UNILATERALLY CHOOSING ANOTHER COMMITTEE, WHICH I WOULD THINK IS PROBABLY THE LEAST APPROPRIATE OF ANY OF THE COMMITTEES I COULD THINK OF QUALITY OF LIFE, ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHERE THE MAYOR BROUGHT.

SO I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THIS MOTION TO BE ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN AN ATTEMPT TO DELAY AND KILL THIS.

AND FOR THAT I WOULD MOVE TO CALL THE QUESTION.

ONE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A REQUEST TO CALL THE QUESTION.

IT'S A TWO THIRDS. WAS IT SECONDED? OKAY. YES.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE. YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

GRACEY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

RESENDEZ. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. CADENA. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BAZALDUA. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLAIR. IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER.

STEWART. YES. I'M SORRY. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER.

ROTH. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

NO. DEPUTY MAYOR. PRO TEM WILLIS. YES. MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO.

NO. MAYOR JOHNSON. ABSENT. VOTE TAKEN.

WITH EIGHT VOTING IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED, TWO ASKING VOTE TAKEN.

THE MOTION FAILS. NO. THE MOTION. THE MOTION PASSES.

IF IT'S A TWO THIRDS OF THE MAJORITY. WE HAVE.

I MEAN, OF THOSE PRESENT WE HAVE 12 MEMBERS. EIGHT IS TWO THIRDS 13.

OH. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL CONTINUE. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH FIVE MINUTES.

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I THINK YOU MAY HAVE SUGGESTED A GREAT COMPROMISE THAT SORT OF GETS TO WHERE I WAS TRYING TO GET, BUT I WASN'T SURE I UNDERSTOOD IT. WAS YOUR, WAS YOUR SUGGESTION THAT WE WOULD ALLOCATE THE FUNDS TODAY, BUT THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS A PRIORITY REIMBURSEMENT OF THOSE FUNDS IN THE BUDGET? I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED HOW WHAT THAT MEANS AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER ROTH, FOR THE QUESTION.

IF COUNCIL DECIDED TO PROCEED TODAY WITH THE 200,000 THAT WE DEFINITELY HAVE OUTLINED WOULD BE COMING OUT OF OUR CONTINGENCY, AND YOU WANTED US TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS PUT BACK INTO THE FUND THROUGH THE BUDGET.

THEN YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION. AND AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT OF THE BUDGET, WE WOULD WORK TO ACHIEVE THAT.

SO THAT WAS MY COMMENT. BUT ONCE YOU GET SOMETHING BACK FROM THE CONSULTANT, WHATEVER THOSE NUMBERS ARE, WE KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT BUILT IN.

AND OUR GOAL WOULD BE IF COUNCIL WANTED TO THEN PURSUE AND CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

I WOULD CONSIDER THAT THE SECOND STEP. THEN YOU COULD THEN ASK US AT THAT TIME TO ALSO BUILD THAT INTO THE BUDGET.

SO EITHER WAY, WE WOULD BE WORKING UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD WANT US TO LOOK AT THIS GOING FORWARD INTO OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, I WANT THERE TO BE A PERCEPTION FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRYING TO KILL A SITUATION OF NOT WANTING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR CITIZENS GENERALLY.

THIS IS A MONEY BUDGET ISSUE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ALLOCATE FUNDS.

AND, AND THIS IS NOT DESIGNED TO, TO SUBVERT OR TO AVOID THIS ISSUE.

THIS IS THIS APPLIES TO EVERY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE DEAL WITH.

AND WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF IMPORTANT CONCEPTS HERE.

AND IT'S REAL HARD FOR US UP HERE TO FIGURE THIS STUFF OUT.

WITH LIMITED AMOUNTS. YOU CAN ONLY SPEND WHAT WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD BUDGET.

AND THAT'S ALL WE CAN AFFORD HERE TO WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN AFFORD AND WHAT'S A PRIORITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SUGGEST HERE, IS THAT AT THE BUDGET PROCESS, WHICH IS JUST TWO MONTHS AWAY AND THREE MONTHS AWAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THIS STUFF. LET'S FIGURE IT OUT AND SEE.

AND IF AND, AND YOUR VOICES ARE REAL POWERFUL HERE AND IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT THIS IS WHEN WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IT AS, AS PART OF OUR OVERALL BUDGET STUFF, NOT MAKING DECISIONS ON PARTICULAR THINGS.

TODAY, WHEN WE DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT EVEN THE CRITERIA ARE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO SATISFY.

THIS IS, THIS IS AND IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF RUSHING OR NOT RUSHING.

IT'S A QUESTION OF LET'S DO IT IN THE RIGHT WAY AT THE RIGHT TIME.

AND THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. AND IF WE COULD GET MAKE THIS A PRIORITY FOR DISCUSSION AT THE BUDGET TIME, I THINK THAT'S A WIN FOR EVERYBODY. IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO REALLY GET THE MONEY ALLOCATED AND THEN GET THE DEAL DONE AT THE RIGHT TIME.

AND SO I'M I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THERE'S NOT A PERCEPTION HERE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SABOTAGE A SITUATION OR STOP A SITUATION.

I WANT TO GET THIS RESOLVED IN THE PROPER WAY.

AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD I WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO DO ALSO.

AND SO I WOULD VOTE AGAINST TAKING THE MONEY TODAY.

BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE AT A LATER POINT TO MAKE A MOTION TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THIS A PRIORITY IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS. THANK YOU.

SO POINT OF CLARIFICATION. FIRST, ARE WE? WE'RE ON THE MOTION.

THE AMENDMENT TO DELAY THIS. IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE ON CHAIR MIDDLETON'S MOTION. OKAY. WELL, I, I DON'T SUPPORT DELAYING THIS.

I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE GALLERY, ALTHOUGH I CAN'T SEE THEM.

WHO WOULD SAY THE TIME TO HAVE DONE THIS WAS YEARS AGO.

AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO START WRAPPING OUR ARMS AROUND THIS. THIS WAS A GIFT FROM THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BEFORE US.

AND KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING INTO THIS NEXT SESSION, I'D LIKE FOR LEGISLATORS TO HAVE A SENSE OF THIS DECISION THAT WAS MADE THAT A CITY WILL HAVE TO BEAR. AND I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE START WRAPPING OUR HEAD AROUND EXACTLY WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS, AND IT PROBABLY IS GOING TO BE BIG. AND I THINK WE IT'S TIME FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOW WHAT MOVE WE MAKE.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE'LL GO, BUT THE FIRST STEP IS HAVING THAT INFORMATION.

AND SO I, I DON'T SUPPORT DELAYING THIS. I THINK IF WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGETING SESSION, WE WOULD END UP RIGHT BACK HERE, BUT WE WILL HAVE LOST THIS TIME WHERE WE WOULD HAVE HAD A NUMBER THAT WE COULD GO TO OUR LEGISLATORS WITH TO TELL THEM THE IMPACT OF THAT BILL ON

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BUT ALSO I THINK IT'S, IT'S TIME FOR THIS THESE NEIGHBORS TO ALSO SEE THAT WE ARE, WE BELIEVE IN THIS AND, AND MAKING SOME PROGRESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. THANK YOU. SO, JACK, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT IS THIS FUND USED FOR? YOU'RE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE FUND.

YES. JEANETTE. GO AHEAD. SURE. IT'S USED FOR UNANTICIPATED NEEDS THAT ARISE DURING THE YEAR.

FOR EXAMPLES. EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH NEW SERVICE NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AFTER THE BUDGET PROCESS.

NEW PUBLIC SAFETY OR HEALTH NEEDS, REVENUE SHORTFALLS, SERVICE ENHANCEMENTS, OR OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE COST SAVINGS.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S ANOTHER POT OF MONEY IN CASE WE NEED TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR LIKE YOU MENTIONED, OTHER THINGS. CORRECT. IT IS A CONTINGENCY AND IT'S PART OF UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.

OKAY. AND THEN IT SAYS RIGHT HERE, I GUESS WILL BE 30 DAYS.

THAT IS, IS THAT IT SAYS 30 DAYS AFTER A CONSULTANT DETERMINES THE TIME FRAME.

SO THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO DO THE REPORT. CORRECT.

MY UNDERSTANDING ON THAT IS AFTER THE REPORT IS COMPLETED, THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO REPORT BACK.

OKAY. I'M NOT SURE ON THE TIMELINE I WOULD HAVE TO.

HERE WE GO. BECAUSE OKAY, SO 30 DAYS TO FOR CREATING A REPORT.

IT IS NOT 30 DAYS FOR CREATING A REPORT. THE THE.

THE FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU SAYS AFTER THE REPORT IS DONE WITHIN 30 DAYS TO SCHEDULE IT TO A COUNCIL COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL BRIEFING.

DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW LONG A REPORT LIKE THIS.

BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY TECHNICAL. YES. I DID ASK OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT WORK MORE WITH THIS TYPE OF CONTRACT.

THEY SAID TYPICALLY 60 TO 90 DAYS. YOU CAN, WE CAN GIVE THEM, LET'S SAY 30 DAYS, 40 DAYS, BUT WE STILL NEED TO LIKE LOOK AND GO BACK AND SAY 60 TO 90 DAYS.

EXACTLY. AND THEN 30 DAYS FOR A COMMITTEE. AND THEN, AND THEN THERE'S THE PROCESS THAT HAPPENS.

SO HOW LONG IS THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS TAKE? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW? I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. SO LET'S SAY 60 TO 90 DAYS ON THAT.

PROBABLY I WOULD ABSORB IT INTO 60 TO 90. I'M LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR IF WE SCHEDULE IT WITH GOING TO KOGE.

IT LOOKS LIKE 11TH WOULD BE THE FIRST POSSIBLE DAY THAT WE COULD HEAR IT.

DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT? IS THAT A FIRST? A SECOND MONDAY AND THEN POSSIBLY THE 27TH ADOPTING IT? I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, IF WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT CREATING A REPORT THAT MAYBE EVEN HELP US IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET PROCESS, TO EVEN START THE, TO START MOVING FOLKS OUT.

OTHERWISE WE'RE JUST GOING TO KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD AND THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF. AND MY, MY WHOLE THING IS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND AND SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT COULD, I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE ABOUT A SIX MONTH PROCESS IF WE ADD ANOTHER STEP BECAUSE IT ALREADY WENT THROUGH A COMMITTEE. IS THAT CORRECT? MR..

MORENO. IT WENT THROUGH YOUR COMMITTEE AND AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT BACK TO A COMMITTEE TO DO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT. SO I GUESS THAT'S MY THING IS I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TIME FRAME THIS WOULD ADD AND IF WE WOULD EVEN GET TO IT BEFORE WE WENT ON BREAK. AND I WOULD TAKE ANY EDITORIALIZING FROM ANYBODY, I GUESS.

OKAY. SO THE SCENARIO WOULD BE IF WE SCHEDULE FOR ANOTHER DIFFERENT COUNCIL COMMITTEE AND THEN COME BACK TO, TO YOU. YEAH, I THINK IT ADDS 45 MORE DAYS PROBABLY.

AND I'M JUST 45 TO I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.

SO 45 TO 60 MORE DAYS. AND THEN YOU HAVE 60 DAYS FOR PROCUREMENT, 60 TO 90 DAYS, 60 TO 90 DAYS, CREATING THE REPORT, 30 DAYS TO HAVE A MEETING, WHICH MEANS THAT WE ARE IN, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK AND WE'RE ABOUT TO START, WE'RE DOING BUDGET RIGHT NOW. SO WE COULDN'T EVEN LIKE, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE, IT'S JUST ADDING MORE TIME TO A SITUATION THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DEAL WITH AND THAT WE'VE BEEN PROMISING THIS COMMUNITY, THESE COMMUNITIES FOR A LONG TIME.

YES, I THINK I'VE DONE LIKE A VERY AGGRESSIVE TIME FRAME THINKING THAT REALISTICALLY, IF COUNCIL VOTES AND TELLS US TO GO AND DO IT, WE CAN COME BACK IN FRONT OF A COMMITTEE OR A COUNCIL WITH FINDINGS, PROBABLY SEPTEMBER.

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BUT IF WE DON'T, THEN YOU HAD 60 TO 60 MONTHS, 45 TO 60 DAYS.

YES. AND AND SO THAT'S AND THEN YOU ADD THAT.

SO AND I MEAN, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION BEFORE GOING INTO A BUDGET CYCLE FOR EVEN NEXT YEAR, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S PRETTY FAST. BUT THEN IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SO YOU COULD ADD IT FOR YOUR TWO YEAR FORECAST BECAUSE WE DO IT ON MULTIPLE YEARS.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO EVEN TALK ABOUT IT, LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO EVEN MOVE FORWARD, OTHERWISE IT DELAYS IT PROBABLY FOR THREE YEARS TO EVEN DISCUSS PUTTING IT IN A BUDGET CYCLE. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WHAT WE GET FOR ADDING 45 MORE DAYS.

AND SO WHEN WE'VE REALLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR FOR A, FOR A BIT AND OKAY, THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CHAIR JOHNSON. THANK YOU. JACK. COME ON BACK.

JACK. JACK. WHEN IS THE NEXT COLLEGE MEETING? MAY THE 11TH. MAY 11TH. OKAY. SO AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON IS SAYING CONCERNING THE DELAY AND ETCETERA.

HAVE THERE SOME FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT I THINK THAT, THAT WE'RE ALL SEEKING FOR AND LOOKING AT AND, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN DO THIS PRETTY QUICKLY IF IT'S MAY THE 11TH AND THEN PLACE IT RIGHT BACK ON THE AGENDA.

ARE WE ABLE TO DO THAT? SO IF IT'S IF THE COUNCIL SENDS IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE.

COMMITTEE ON MAY THE 11TH, AS MISS BLACKMON MENTIONED, POTENTIALLY THEN COULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON MAY THE 27TH.

SO THAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT. SO AGAIN, I KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS VERY WELL.

I SERVED AS THEIR TRUSTEE. I A PASTOR IN WEST DALLAS.

AND SO I HEARD THEIR VOICES. MANY OF THEM COME TO THE CHURCH. AND SO WHAT I JUST WANT TO DO IS GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GIVE, GET IN THE COACH COMMITTEE AND GIVE THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I THINK THAT'S THE NECESSARY COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE TO SEND IT TO.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THAT DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, NOT TO DELAY IT, BUT TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED TO GO FORWARD.

SO THAT'S, THAT WAS MY OBJECTIVE. AND I AGREE WITH MENDELSOHN.

WHEN SHE RECOMMENDED THAT. THANK YOU. CHAIR. MENDELSOHN IS JUST AROUND 2 OR 3.

I BELIEVE IT'S 2 OR 3 MINUTES. WELL, THANK YOU, CHAIR JOHNSON.

I DO THINK IT BELONGS IN YOUR COMMITTEE. I'LL SAY THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOWN TO TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DAYS AND THERE'S THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT, WELL, LEGISLATIVELY THIS HAPPENED AND THEREFORE WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

BUT THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION ENDED LAST MAY. SO SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD ALL THESE MONTHS THAT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD, INCLUDING FOR INCLUSION IN THIS YEAR'S FISCAL BUDGET.

AND IT WASN'T. AND NOW IT'S AN EMERGENCY. WE HAVE TO GO TO OUR OUR CONTINGENCY RESERVE ACCOUNT BECAUSE IT WASN'T PLANNED.

AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RESPOND TO THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM.

I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THERE WERE A LOT OF MONTHS THAT THIS COULD HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED.

AND SO NOW IT'S AN EMERGENCY. BUT I DIDN'T SEE THE EMERGENCY AMONGST COUNCIL MEMBERS TALKING ABOUT THIS LAST MAY, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, SEPTEMBER. OCTOBER, NOVEMBER.

YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS? SO THERE'S THAT PART.

WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT TAKING MONEY FROM CONTINGENCY RESERVE, THERE'S USUALLY GUIDELINES.

NOT JUST THAT IT'S FOR SOMETHING UNBUDGETED, BUT THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S AN EMERGENCY, SOMETHING THAT'S PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED, SOMETHING THAT'S DISASTER RELATED.

THAT'S A CRITICAL COMMUNITY SERVICE. THIS HAS BEEN GENERATIONAL THAT THIS THESE PLANTS HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER ANYTHING? WHAT I'M SAYING ABOUT SPECIFYING FOR THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE ACCOUNT.

AND ARE YOU ALREADY PLANNING TO USE THAT FOR THE SHORTFALL ON SALES TAX? SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE CONTINGENCY RESERVE IS USED FOR UNANTICIPATED NEEDS THAT ARISE DURING THE YEAR.

THEY AND EXAMPLES GIVEN INCLUDE NEW SERVICE NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AFTER THE BUDGET,

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SO WE HAVE DEFINITELY USED IT FOR NEW THINGS THAT WERE NOT BUDGETED.

WE ADDED A CODE PROGRAMS. WE DO MAYOR AND COUNCIL RUNOFF ELECTIONS, THINGS THAT ARE JUST NOT BUDGETED THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY JUST PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED. SO JUST WANTED THAT. BUT THERE, THOSE ARE NOT OPTIONAL.

LIKE HAVING A RUNOFF ELECTION IS NOT OPTIONAL.

SO WHEREAS DELAYING THREE AND A HALF MONTHS IS OPTIONAL.

UNDERSTOOD. CONTINGENCY RESERVE BEING USED FOR THOSE PURPOSES.

EMERGENCY RESERVE HAS A HIGHER THRESHOLD FOR WHAT IT'S USED FOR.

WE HAVE A HIGHER DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THAT RESERVE.

BUT AGAIN, AS JEANNETTE MENTIONED EARLIER, BETWEEN OUR CONTINGENCY RESERVE, EMERGENCY RESERVE, ETC., IS, IS OUR FULL RESERVE THAT WE REFER TO.

AND WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR OFFSETTING REVENUE DECREASES THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING? YES, MA'AM. THE RESERVE FUNDS CAN BE USED TO HELP OFFSET REVENUE LOSSES AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, REVENUE LOSSES AS WE'VE COMMUNICATED.

SALES TAX. WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY ANTICIPATING NEEDING TO SEEK USE OF RESERVES FOR THAT PURPOSE.

WE'RE WE'RE APPROACHING THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY IN MANAGING THE BUDGET, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE BACK TO FINANCE COMMITTEE AS WE GO THROUGH THAT.

AND WHAT ABOUT FOR ANY OVERTIME. EXACTLY THE SAME.

SO WE WE HAVE SOME INCREASED EXPENDITURES THIS YEAR IN BOTH FIRE AND POLICE OVERTIME ALONG WITH REDUCTION IN SALES TAX REVENUE.

SO THOSE THINGS TOGETHER ARE CREATING SOME ISSUES THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT, MAKING ADJUSTMENTS OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO REBALANCE.

OKAY. BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THERE'S 10 MILLION IN THIS ACCOUNT.

I THINK SALES TAX YOU'RE NOW AT 5 MILLION LESS REVENUE 6.16.

OKAY. SO SIX AND THEN OVER TIME FOR DHFR IS I THINK 2 MILLION OVER.

AND THEN DOES THAT INCLUDE THE BACK PAY FOR THE MEET AND CONFER? YES. YES, MA'AM. SO IN TOTAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS FORECAST TO BE ABOUT $9 MILLION OVER BUDGET POLICE IS FORECAST TO BE $5 MILLION OVER BUDGET.

AND YES, BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS DO INCLUDE ALREADY ANTICIPATED RETROACTIVE PAY FOR MEET AND CONFER.

YES, MA'AM. SO THAT EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT YOU HAVE IN THIS CONTINGENCY FUND? YES, MA'AM. AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT WITH DEPARTMENTS TO ADDRESS SPENDING, ADDRESS OTHER REVENUES THAT COULD BE USED TO OFFSET OUR LOSS OF SALES TAX AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. CURRENTLY THE GENERAL FUND BEING OUT OF BALANCE IN THE CURRENT YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE SOME TIME BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR TO MAKE SOME EFFORTS TO BRING THAT BACK INTO BALANCE.

THANK YOU. I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO HEAR THE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND SEE THAT THERE'S A MATH PROBLEM HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

THANK YOU. I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT. I DID JUST SPEAK WITH CHAIR JOHNSON ABOUT HIS COMMITTEE.

I THINK THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING ON WHAT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE FLOOR.

AND WHAT WAS INTERPRETED BY CHAIR JOHNSON IS SOMETHING I CAN SUPPORT.

WHAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO DO IS DELAY US GETTING THIS INFORMATION.

HE MENTIONED THAT THIS APPRAISAL INFORMATION IS SOMETHING HE WANTS US TO TAKE UP THE CONVERSATION WITH.

HE WAS ASKING THAT ONCE WE GET THE APPRAISAL INFORMATION TO COME TO HIS COMMITTEE.

SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR SO THAT ALL OF THE COLLEAGUES HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS ON THE FLOOR AND WHAT WAS BEING EXPECTED.

WHAT I AM HOPING WE DO IS WE KILL THIS MOTION THAT IS ON THE FLOOR AND ALLOW FOR US TO AMEND THE UNDERLYING MOTION TO EXPLICITLY ASK THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE THE APPRAISAL INFORMATION, THAT WE BRING IT TO CHAIR JOHNSON'S COMMITTEE, AND I'M WILLING TO DO THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE I STAND AND WHY I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO KILL THIS DELAY SLASH KILL TACTIC AND ALLOW FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD AND DESIGNATE WHERE THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL ONCE WE GET THE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. SEEING NO FURTHER THEIR DISCUSSION.

THE ITEM BEFORE US IS THE AMENDED MOTION BY CHAIR MENDELSOHN TO REMAND THIS BACK TO THE DOGE COMMITTEE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. LET'S.

DO YOU FEEL. LET'S DO. WOULD YOU LIKE A RECORD VOTE? THANK YOU MISS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE.

YES. I ACTUALLY THINK THAT WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT.

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ALL RIGHT. WELL, MADAM CITY SECRETARY WE WILL NOW GO TO OUR CLOSED ITEM CLOSED SESSION.

NO, WE STILL HAVE THE UNDERLYING MOTION. EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE WILL GO TO THE UNDERLYING MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

AND I WOULD OFFER TO AMEND IF IT WOULD BE ACCEPTED BY MY SECOND TO JUST INCLUDE THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE INFORMATION BACK FROM THE APPRAISALS THAT WE WOULD TAKE IT TO OUR COACH COMMITTEE.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT.

NOW. I'M NOT GOING TO DO.

OKAY. IT IS 3:33 P.M. ON APRIL 22ND, 2026. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER

[CLOSED SESSION]

ONE OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 44 AND 51 AND UNDER SECTION 551.07.

FOUR OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTERS DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WE WILL RETURN AT 430.

I WANT THE KNIFE. OKAY. HELLO? ALL RIGHT, THERE WE GO.

CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTIONS 551.071551.072551.074551.089 AND 551.076.

ONE OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND AT 6:30 P.M.

ON APRIL 22ND, 2026, WE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.

MADAM SECRETARY, PLEASE CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE WILL BEGIN WITH AGENDA ITEM 40.

[40. 26-880A Authorize an amendment to the Dallas Housing Resource Catalog (DHRC) (1) amend the Dallas Housing Finance Corporation program statement (Exhibit A, pp. 58-63) to formalize program operations; (2) amend the Dallas Public Facility Corporation program statement (Exhibit A, pp. 64-69) to formalize program operations; (3) amend the Housing Tax Credit Program statement in (Exhibit A, pp. 53-56) to clarify application criteria and process; (4) remove the Title Clearing and Clouded Title Prevention Program, as program is no longer available; and (5) make general edits throughout the DHRC (Exhibit A) to clean up formatting and grammar - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on February 25, 2026) *In alignment with Dallas Housing Resource Catalog.]

DHRC1 AMEND THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION PROGRAM STATEMENT TO FORMALIZE PROGRAM OPERATIONS TO AMEND THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION PROGRAM STATEMENT TO FORMALIZE PROGRAM OPERATIONS THREE AMEND THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM STATEMENT AND TO CLARIFY APPLICATION CRITERIA AND PROCESS FOR REMOVE THE TITLE CLEARING AND CLOUDED TITLE PREVENTION PROGRAM.

AS PROGRAM IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE AND FIVE MAKE GENERAL EDITS THROUGHOUT THE D, H, R, C TO CLEAN UP FORMATTING AND GRAMMAR.

YOU DO HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. KEITH.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS.

HELLO. MY NAME IS KEITH PARMACOL. 3001 SOUTH STREET, DALLAS.

I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE DISTRICT 14 REPRESENTATIVE ON THE DPS AND CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE BOARD PRESIDENT.

WHEN I CAME UP IN THE ELEVATOR TO GET HERE, I SEE THE POSTERS IN DALLAS CITY HALL THAT SAY CONNECT, COLLABORATE AND COMMUNICATE. I APPRECIATE THAT, AND IN THE CASE OF THE POLICY STATEMENT, WE DID JUST THAT.

WE CONNECTED, WE COLLABORATED, AND WE COMMUNICATED.

YOU SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF THE MEMBERS THAT YOU THAT YOU APPOINTED TO THE BOARD OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION.

THEY'RE ALL GOOD, HARD WORKING CITIZENS OF DALLAS.

I APPRECIATE THE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE THE CITY STAFF LED BY DIRECTOR ERICKSON.

THANK YOU. THOR. THE VOLUNTEER BOARD OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION, THE DPS STAFF, OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, COMMUNITY HOUSING ACTIVIST, UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS, INDUSTRY SCHOLARS AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

INITIALLY, WE WERE THINKING THAT A MOTION TO SUBSTITUTE THE DPS VERSION FOR THE CITY STAFF VERSION WOULD BE THE EASIEST.

HOWEVER, WITH THE RECENT GOOD FACE CHANGES MADE, THANK YOU THOR AND CITY STAFF MADE BY CITY STAFF TAKING OUT THE TWO THIRDS

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SOME PEOPLE, SUCH AS EVEN MYSELF, HAVE SAID THAT THIS WAS A TIME CONSUMING PROCESS.

YES, INDEED. WE SPENT A YEAR AND A HALF ON THIS.

BUT IS THAT ALL BAD? I DON'T THINK SO. BECAUSE IN RETROSPECT, DURING THIS TIME, WE WERE ABLE TO BRING TOGETHER A VERY WIDE VARIETY OF OPINIONS AND COLLABORATED FOR THIS FINAL PRODUCT. ALSO, BUILDING MULTIFAMILY HOUSING ITSELF DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

THERE IS MUCH VETTING, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, SITE SELECTION, ZONING POLICY, COMPLIANCE PERMITS, FINANCING, AND THEN BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION AND LEASE UP.

SO IT ALL TAKES TIME. SO WE UNDERSTAND THE TIME THAT IT TAKES FOR THE NEXT STEPS.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES BROUGHT UP BY THE COUNCIL TO ADVANCE AFFORDABILITY AND HOUSING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH FOR OPENING UP THE COMMUNICATION AND ALSO TO THANK YOUR DEDICATED APPOINTEES, YOUR VOLUNTEER APPOINTEES. I WILL ADD THAT YOU HAVE PLACED ON THE BOARD OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION.

I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR APPROVING THIS STEP IN THE PROCESS TODAY.

WITHOUT CHANGES ON ITEM NUMBER 40. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO DALLAS. THANK YOU.

DAVID ELLIS. DAVID ELLIS IS NOT PRESENT.

HUNT. NOR. NOR.

GOOD EVENING. HUNT WITH GHN HOLDINGS. JUST WANTED TO BE A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND TO GIVE A LOT OF APPRECIATION FOR THE HARD WORK FROM STAFF, THE BOARD AND TO WORK WITH US DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO SUCCESSFUL PROJECTS WITH THE CITY AND FULLY STAND BEHIND THE POLICY AS WRITTEN TO BE APPROVED AS IS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. MR.. MAYOR AGENDA ITEM 40.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. SECOND. WHO HAS THE MOTION? CHAIRMAN RIDLEY AND SECONDED BY CHAIRMAN WEST. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. CHAIRMAN WEST THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE MANDATED REVIEWS OF THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION WERE COMPREHENSIVE ONES THAT INCLUDED GOVERNMENTS, POLICIES, PROGRAMS, INVESTMENTS AND OPERATING PROCEDURES.

INPUT WAS SOUGHT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, BOARD MEMBERS, DEVELOPERS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCATES, AND THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT DISAGREEMENTS WITH STAFF'S ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATIONS PROPOSED OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

THE PROCESS OF REACHING A CONSENSUS HAS BEEN A LONG AND AND A HARD ONE, BUT IT HOPEFULLY CONCLUDES TODAY WITH APPROVAL OF THE PROGRAM STATEMENT PROPOSALS THAT NOW ENJOY BROAD STAKEHOLDER SUPPORT.

WHILE THIS REVIEW HAS BEEN TAXING ON STAFF AND ON THE TWO CORPORATIONS, THERE HAVE BEEN BENEFITS.

COUNCIL IS FAR MORE AWARE OF THE VALUE OF THESE TWO CORPORATIONS, HOW WELL THEY ARE GOVERNED, AND HOW IMPORTANT THEY ARE TO MEETING THE ATTAINABLE HOUSING GOALS OF OUR CITY.

ACCOUNTING FOR THREE FOURTHS OF OUR ANNUAL ATTAINABLE RENTAL PRODUCTION.

SUPPORTING HOUSING FOR PEOPLE LIKE OUR TEACHERS, POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS AND HOSPITAL TECHNICIANS.

I ALSO FEEL THAT COUNCIL HAS GREATER KNOWLEDGE OF THE HOUSING NEEDS OF DALLAS.

HAVING LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE TWO CORPORATIONS, PROGRAMS AND HEARING FROM INDUSTRY EXPERTS DURING OUR APRIL 1ST STATE OF HOUSING IN DALLAS COUNCIL BRIEFING THAT OUR CITY MANAGER BROUGHT TO US.

I AM PARTICULARLY ENCOURAGED BY COMMITMENTS FROM STAFF AND THE D.

H C BOARD TO BUILD ON THIS POLICY WORK AND PRODUCE DISTRICT LEVEL HOUSING DATA THAT WILL ALLOW INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ENGAGE IN MORE INFORMED DISCUSSIONS AND DECISION MAKING WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT HOW CITY HOUSING PROGRAMS CAN BEST SERVE THEIR COMMUNITIES.

WE OWE THOR AND HIS STAFF OUR RESPECT AND GRATITUDE FOR CONDUCTING THIS REVIEW WITH HONESTY AND TRANSPARENCY AND ALWAYS AND FOR ALWAYS BEING OPEN TO DIFFERING POINTS OF VIEW. THANK YOU TO THE ENTIRE HOUSING STAFF. IN HINDSIGHT, THE SCOPE OF THIS REVIEW WAS PROBABLY TOO AMBITIOUS, BUT IT DID NOT DETER STAFF FROM SEEING IT THROUGH TO A POSITIVE CONCLUSION.

I LOOK FORWARD TO JOINING MY COLLEAGUES AND BUILDING ON THE KNOWLEDGE AND PROGRAMS WE NOW HAVE, AND GREATLY INCREASING THE CAPACITY OF THE CITY OF DALLAS TO PRODUCE AND PRESERVE ATTAINABLE HOUSING FOR THE INCREASING NUMBERS OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO FIND IT LACKING.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 40.

CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU.

BEFORE I LEFT, I GAVE A MOTION TO AMEND TO MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO.

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SORRY, I DON'T I DON'T SEE HIM IN THE ROOM. WELL, HE JUST WALKED IN.

SORRY. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. HE JUST WALKED IN.

WE'RE GOING TO STOP YOUR TIME. HOLD ON.

OKAY. YOU DON'T. SO YOU DON'T REALLY NEED THE TIME.

WELL, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO SPEAK AFTER HE MAKES THAT.

OKAY. WE'LL JUST PRETEND LIKE THAT SORT OF DIDN'T HAPPEN.

YOU RECOGNIZE MAYOR PRO TEM FIVE MINUTES. HAS THE MOTION BEEN MADE OKAY? NO, SIR. OKAY. I MOVE TO AMEND THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES REQUIRE A TWO THIRDS CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO APPROVE RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT OF.

NO OBJECTION TO THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECTS IN THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION PROJECTS REQUESTING A WAIVER OF THE DECONCENTRATION FACTORS REQUIRED.

TWO THIRDS CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO APPROVE THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION PROJECT WITH AN EXISTING TAXABLE BUILDING OR IMPROVEMENTS AND REQUIRE THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO APPOINT THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT AS A NON-VOTING, EX OFFICIO BOARD MEMBER. IS THERE A SECOND? I CAN'T SEE PAST THE FLOWERS.

WHO DID? OH, YOU SECONDED THAT CARA. OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

DO YOU WANT FIVE MINUTES? OKAY. CHAIRWOMAN NELSON, DO YOU WANT FIVE MINUTES ON THIS? YES. OKAY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM AT THIS POINT.

I APPRECIATE IT. THE MAYOR PRO TEM, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN THE CHAIR OF HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS BEFORE THIS MOST RECENT TERM OF APPOINTMENT. AND NOW HE'S VICE CHAIR AND I'M CHAIR.

AND THROUGH THESE TWO DIFFERENT TERMS, BOTH OF US HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD THESE ITEMS QUITE FREQUENTLY.

WE HAVE SOME NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, BOTH ON THE COMMITTEE AND ON THE WHOLE COUNCIL.

AND SO THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF BRIEFINGS AT COMMITTEE AS WELL AS DETAILED DISCUSSION.

IT HAS BROUGHT FORWARD THE NEED FOR A TRAINING VIDEO, WHICH THE STAFF COMPLETED, AND HOPEFULLY NOT JUST COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT THE PUBLIC CAN VIEW AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THESE VERY POWERFUL AND HELPFUL TOOLS IN CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

ALSO, YOU KNOW, AT, AT, AT MY, MY REPEATED SUGGESTIONS, WE HAD A FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING ON HOUSING AS IT'S CLEAR THERE'S CHANGES IN HOW THE COUNCIL IS VIEWING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEIR APPETITE FOR VARIOUS TOOLS THAT WE HAVE. SO FIRST, I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE ON OUR CORPORATIONS, BOTH THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION AND THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN HELPING US DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THEY DO GIVE SIGNIFICANT TIME AND EFFORT TO REVIEWING DEALS AND DISCUSSING THEM, AND IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED. HOWEVER THE PROCESS THAT STAFF WENT THROUGH TO REALLY UPDATE THIS PROGRAM WAS SIGNIFICANT AND REFLECTIVE OF THE COUNCIL.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THIS MOTION ESSENTIALLY PUTS BACK STAFFS STRONGLY CONSIDER PROFESSIONAL ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION. AND THOSE THREE MAIN POINTS ARE TWO WHICH ARE THE SAME, WHICH SAYS THE THRESHOLD SHOULD BE TWO THIRDS, WHICH WE ALL KNOW MEANS TEN OUT OF THE 15 PEOPLE AGREE TO SUPPORTING A 4% LETTER OR GIVING A TAX EXEMPTION OF MULTIPLE DECADES.

AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS JUST HAVING AN EIGHT SEVEN VOTE IS REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR TAKING MILLIONS OFF OUR TAX ROLL FOR AN ENTIRE GENERATION, AND THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A STRONGER CONSENSUS.

AS IT TURNS OUT, EVERY DEAL WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD MORE THAN TEN.

SO IT'S NOT A HARD THRESHOLD, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT KIND OF CONSENSUS FOR THE FUTURE.

AND THEN THE THIRD, WHICH HAS BEEN SORT OF TROUBLING TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION ABOUT IS THE IDEA OF HAVING AN EX OFFICIO POSITION,

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AND THE PUSHBACK HAS BEEN SURPRISING, BUT IS IMPORTANT FOR GOVERNANCE FOR US.

THESE ARE OUR CORPORATIONS. WE ARE THE POLICY MAKERS, NOT THE VOLUNTEERS.

AND THE HOUSING DIRECTOR WOULD ASSURE ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CITY GOALS AND OUR CITY INTERESTS, AND MAKING SURE OUR CITY INTERESTS ARE PROTECTED.

SO THESE ARE ESSENTIAL. AND WHILE IT'S ALWAYS NICE TO SAY, WE TALK TO INDUSTRY AND WE'RE COLLABORATIVE, THE TRUTH IS THE GOALS OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE CORPORATION ITSELF, AND THE GOALS OF THE DEVELOPERS AND THE GOALS OF THE ADVOCATES ARE NOT NECESSARILY OUR POLICY GOALS. AND WE HAVE TO JUST BE HONEST THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS.

THE CORPORATIONS INTEREST IS SELF-SUSTAINING AND THEY WANT TO DO EVERY DEAL.

THE THE DEVELOPERS HAVE THEIR OWN FINANCIAL INTERESTS AND THE ADVOCATES HAVE A THIRD DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE'RE HERE TO PROTECT THE 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR CITY, AND THE THOUSANDS MORE THAT WE HOPE WILL COME AND JOIN US IN DALLAS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE HOUSING FOR THEM. BUT THESE ARE SENSIBLE, PROFESSIONAL, CONSIDERED ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD BY OUR STAFF TO HELP US TO MAKE SURE THAT DALLAS HAS THE STRONGEST POLICIES FOR DEVELOPING THIS IN A SENSIBLE WAY.

AND I APPRECIATE THOR, YOU HAVE REALLY DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB FOR THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD THROUGH THROUGH THE MONTHS AND YEARS. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, BUT ALSO THAT WE SUPPORT THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND WE SUPPORT YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS. AND SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO YOUR TIME, MY FRIEND.

SORRY YOU HAVE MORE ROUNDS THOUGH. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LET'S GO TO CHAIRMAN WEST.

WHY DON'T WE FOR FIVE MINUTES. WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

GO AHEAD, CHAIRMAN WEST. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO I GOT A COPY OF THE AMENDMENT.

AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH IT. THE FIRST ONE IS THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN THE YEAR AND A HALF OF THIS DISCUSSION THAT THE SOMEONE HAS BROUGHT UP THAT I'M AWARE OF THE TWO THIRDS VOTE TO APPROVE RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT FOR HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECTS.

THAT INCLUDES THE MAKER, THE PERSON WHO HAD GIVEN THE MOTION TO CHAIRMAN, CHAIRMAN MORENO.

NOT BRINGING THIS UP IN HER HOUSING COMMITTEE AT ANY POINT AND WAITING UNTIL THE FINAL DAY.

THIS IS DISCUSSED. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE HAVE THE AGREEMENTS AND ARE READY TO GET THIS ACROSS THE LINE.

SO I THINK IT'S VERY DISINGENUOUS TO BRING UP THAT DISCUSSION.

NOW THE OTHER TWO ITEMS, WHICH ARE THE TWO THIRDS VOTE THRESHOLD FOR PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION AND THE EX OFFICIO, I MEAN, BY BRINGING THAT UP, IT'S BASICALLY THROWING OUT ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE AS A COUNCIL.

THE MULTIPLE MEETINGS WE'VE HAD THAT HAVE GONE ON FOR HOURS, THE COMMITTEE WORK THAT'S LED UP TO THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ALL THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THE CORPORATIONS AND THOR.

SO THIS DOCUMENT RIGHT HERE BASICALLY THROWS OUT EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE AND TAKES US BACK TO HOW WE WERE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO BEFORE ANY OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS STARTED. SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY REJECT THIS. I ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO NOT REVERT TO A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND THROW OUT ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE, AND TO VOTE THIS MOTION DOWN. THANK YOU.

MR. BAZALDUA. RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I MOVED TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION TO CONSIDER THE TWO THIRDS VOTES SEPARATELY FROM THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN EX OFFICIO BOARD MEMBER. SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

LET ME CONFER WITH THE PARLIAMENTARIAN ONE THING REALLY QUICKLY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. QUESTIONS DIVIDED.

WE'LL TAKE UP THE. WHICH PORTION YOU WANT TO TAKE UP FIRST? MR. BAZALDUA, I'LL LET YOU PICK. OH, WELL. TWO THIRDS, TWO THIRDS.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ON THE TWO THIRDS PORTION OF THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

SO YOU HAVE FIVE SUPPLEMENTARY SACHSE YOUR INQUIRY.

THERE'S THREE ITEMS THAT ARE PART OF THIS MOTION.

IS IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE EACH OF THE THREE OR YOU'RE GOING TO COMBINE THE FIRST TWO.

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THE MOTION IS TO HEAR THE TWO TWO THIRDS VOTE SEPARATELY FROM THE EX OFFICIO.

SO THOSE TWO GO TOGETHER AS ONE. CLEAR AS MUD.

RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO DIVIDE THAT FIRST QUESTION THEN.

SO THAT TWO THIRDS IS. SAY WHAT? NO, SERIOUSLY, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? I'D LIKE TO SEPARATE. THERE'S A TWO THIRDS. ABOUT THE 4%.

NO OBJECTION LETTER. AND THERE'S A TWO THIRDS ABOUT FCS.

YOU WANT TO DIVIDE THE DIVIDED QUESTION. YOU WANT TO SUBDIVIDE THE DIVIDED QUESTION.

IT'S GETTING ITS OWN ONE. YES, SIR. I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF SUCH A THING. BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT THAT REALLY WILL TEST THE PARLIAMENTARIAN WHO'S ON HER WAY OUT THE DOORS. PATIENCE. ALL RIGHT, HOLD ON A SECOND.

SHE'S IN THE BOOK. SHE'S IN THE RULE BOOK. HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

DID ANYONE SECOND THAT? WE'RE LOOKING IT UP IN THE MEANTIME BECAUSE SHE USUALLY HAS A WINGMAN HERE.

SO WHO'S GOING TO SECOND THAT? ANYONE. MAN, YOU YOU FIT THAT DESCRIPTION TO A T, ALL RIGHT? IT'S. YEAH, SHE'S GOOD TO HAVE FRIENDS AROUND HERE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO, MR. MAYOR, HOLD ON. WE'RE STANDING AT EASE WHILE WE GET THE ANSWER FROM PARLIAMENTARIAN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN DIVIDE OR DIVIDE A QUESTION EVEN FURTHER. HOLD ON. I JUST WANT A COPY OF THE. CAN WE GET A COPY OF MENDELSOHN OR OF MORENO? YEAH, I JUST WANT A COPY OF THE MOTION. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, I WOULD JUST LIKE A COPY OF THE MEMO.

NOW THAT WE'RE SPLITTING IT AND DIVIDING IT. AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IT IN WRITING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

I DON'T CONTROL ANY OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TALK TO WHOEVER PRINTS THOSE FOR YOU GUYS.

I NEVER GET THOSE. I NEVER GET THE PRINTOUTS.

I DO IT ALL FROM. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. IT'S AN ORDER. SO IT'S BEEN. SUBDIVIDED.

WILL YOU DESCRIBE HOW THE. THE DIVIDED QUESTION IS BEING SUBDIVIDED.

I OUGHT TO MAKE MR. ROTH EXPLAIN IT, SINCE HE'S.

POINT OF ORDER MAYOR. STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. I'M OUT OF ORDER. I HAD THE FLOOR, AND MISS MENDELSOHN ASKED FOR A POINT OF INFORMATION, AND I'M WONDERING HOW WE'RE NOW ON A NEW MOTION.

IT'S A GREAT POINT. SADLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO UNWIND.

RECOGNIZING HER FOR A MOTION WHILE I WAS ON YOUR TIME.

BUT LET'S JUST TAKE THE OTHERS. LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

MISS PARLIAMENTARIAN, IN THE ORDER OF PRECEDENCE, THIS MOTION TO SUBDIVIDE THAT I RECOGNIZE HER TO MAKE, DOES IT TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER THE ORIGINAL ONE TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION? HOW DOES THAT WORK? I WOULD THINK OF IT LIKE YOU'RE YOU'RE AMENDING A MAIN MOTION.

SO. BUT SHE DID NOT HAVE THE FLOOR AT THE TIME.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FLOOR TO MAKE THE MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEN I'M GOING TO HOLD ON.

ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION ISN'T DEBATABLE. SO WE CAN DISPOSE OF IT NOW AND SEE IF THERE'S THE VOTES FOR IT.

AND IF THERE AREN'T, THEN WE'LL BE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION. ANYWAY. THAT MIGHT BE THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT. ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THE SUBDIVIDING OF THE DIVIDED QUESTIONS, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. SOUNDS LIKE THE NAYS HAVE IT.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? JUST FOR FUN, LET'S HAVE A RECORD VOTE ON IT.

GOT ALL NIGHT, GUYS. LET'S GO. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

GRACEY. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. NO. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. COUNCIL MEMBER. NO.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BLAIR. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BLACKMON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

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THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO MAYOR JOHNSON. YES.

WITH NINE. WITH FOUR VOTING IN FAVOR, NINE OPPOSED.

TWO ABSENT. VOTE TAKEN. THE MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK ON THE DIVIDED QUESTION.

THE TWO THIRDS PORTION THAT THE GENTLEMAN FROM DISTRICT SEVEN.

BOTH OF THEM WANT TO TAKE UP FIRST. WE'RE BACK ON YOUR TIME, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING THAT OUT OF ORDER.

NO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I.

AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT WAS SAID BY MR. WEST.

I DEFINITELY POINT OF INFORMATION. ARE WE JUST TALKING MAYOR ARE WE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, THE EX OFFICIO NOW IS THAT WHICH OF THE THREE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TAKING UP THE TWO THIRDS TOGETHER FIRST.

OKAY. YES. WHAT HE JUST SAID. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I THOUGHT WE WERE TAKING UP YOURS.

OKAY. I'M SORRY YOUR TIME KEEPS GETTING INTERRUPTED, BUT I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED.

IT'S KIND OF AN ODD SITUATION. IT'S ALL GOOD.

NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE JUNIOR PARLIAMENTARIAN MAYOR.

SO. THAT'S RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT. SO I DON'T WANT TO UNDO THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.

I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR US TO HAVE PRODUCT.

I THINK HONESTLY, THE, THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO MEMBER THRESHOLD TO ME IS NOT REALLY THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

I THINK IT'S KIND OF CRAZY THAT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS TAKEN SO MUCH TIME TO, TO SIFT THROUGH.

I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE AS RECOMMENDED FOR A SIMPLE MAJORITY.

HOWEVER, I DON'T AGAIN, UNDERSTAND REALLY HOW THIS REALLY MOVES THE NEEDLE.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE VOTES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE AT ANY OF THESE DEALS, IF WE WERE TO HAVE HAD A TWO THIRDS THRESHOLD ADOPTED IT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN NONE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECTS NOT GETTING THROUGH. SO THIS THRESHOLD BEING SUCH A CONTENTIOUS POINT, HAS BEEN ONE THAT I'VE REALLY TRIED TO MAKE SENSE OF BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE MUCH SENSE. BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT A HILL WORTH DYING ON.

AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE FRAMED AS IF IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO THE FUTURE OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAPABILITIES IT'S NOT ONE THAT I'M GOING TO, TO FIGHT FOR, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT EVERY SINGLE HFC AND PFC THAT HAS BEEN PASSED AT THIS CITY HAS EXCEEDED THE TWO THIRDS THRESHOLD THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THIS MOTION. I SAY THAT TO SAY THAT THERE IS A MORE PRESSING ISSUE THAT IS PUT ON THIS MOTION. AND THAT'S WHY I SEPARATED THE QUESTION AND SEPARATING THE QUESTION.

IT DOES ALLOW FOR US TO DEBATE THESE SEPARATELY.

I THINK FROM THE CONVERSATIONS IN COMMITTEE AND JUST HEARING FROM STAKEHOLDERS AND COLLEAGUES, THE TWO THIRDS, IN MY OPINION, HAS A LOT LESS SUPPORT AND I DON'T WANT IT ALL TO DIE ON THAT.

I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE AT LEAST AN HONEST DEBATE ABOUT THE EX OFFICIO, WHICH WE WILL ONCE WE TAKE UP THAT PART OF THE DIVIDED QUESTION. BUT THAT IS THE REASON FOR ME DIVIDING THIS.

AND THEN, IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE AND WORKING WITH COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE INTEGRAL TO THE INS AND OUTS OF THESE CONVERSATIONS, LIKE MR. WEST THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE HILL THAT I DIE ON, BUT I ASK COLLEAGUES TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEXT DIVIDED PORTION OF THIS QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. STEWART, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I TOO, WANT TO JUST SECOND WHAT CHAIR WEST SAID.

WE HAVE BEEN AROUND THIS. I DO NOT SERVE ON THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, BUT I HAVE BEEN TO AT LEAST TWO OF THE BRIEFINGS AS WELL AS THE BRIEFING FOR FULL COUNCIL.

AND I REALLY INTERPRET IT AND HEARD PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO MOVE THIS TO A TWO THIRDS VOTE.

PEOPLE MEANING COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY COLLEAGUES.

SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS CHANGE AND WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT AT THE MAJORITY THE MAJORITY VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN WEST RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, WE HAVE HAD A YEAR AND A HALF OF THESE DISCUSSIONS. COUNCIL WAS VERY CLEAR DURING THE THE,

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AND THEN THIS OTHER ISSUE ON THE TEC. THAT IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY.

SO I STRONGLY HOPE, I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL STRONGLY VOTE THIS DOWN.

THANK YOU. MR. ROTH, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. THE REASON I LIKE TO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE TWO TWO THIRDS REQUIREMENT IS THE SITUATIONS HAVE CHANGED.

I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO RECONSIDER.

THE ABATEMENT OF TAXES, ESPECIALLY ON A LONG TERM BASIS, IS REALLY HAS A HUGE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON OUR FUTURE ABILITY TO, TO FUND OUR OPERATIONS HERE.

AND WITH THE GROWTH OF DALLAS, THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND HOW THE CITY IS, IS GROWING AND CHANGING, WE CAN'T MAKE LONG TERM TAX ABATEMENT DECISIONS WITHOUT SOME SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION AND WITHOUT A SPECIAL REASON.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT TWO THIRDS MAJORITY PUTS THIS ON THE TABLE.

IT FORCES US ALL TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE TAX IMPLICATIONS AND THE AND THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING POTENTIALLY IN THE FUTURE.

AND TO, TO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES COMMENTS IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE USUALLY OVERCOME THAT TWO THIRDS GENERALLY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT, THOUGHTFUL DEBATE ON THESE SITUATIONS WHEN WE ARE GIVING AWAY LITERALLY, POTENTIALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SO I WOULD, I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE FROM A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY STANDPOINT THAT WE REALLY CONSIDER PUTTING IN THIS TWO THIRDS REQUIREMENT FOR BOTH OF THE FIRST TWO ITEMS IN THE, IN THE AMENDMENT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I AM OPPOSED TO THESE AMENDMENTS.

THE, THE TWO THIRDS AMENDMENTS THIS HAS BEEN UNDER DISCUSSION FOR OVER A YEAR.

I FULLY SUPPORT CHAIRMAN WEST'S COMMENTS ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE ATTENDED AS WELL SEVERAL OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE MET WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF BOTH CORPORATIONS.

I FEEL WELL INFORMED ABOUT THE PROS AND THE CONS, AND NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT WE HAVE APPROVED ALL OF THESE PROJECTS BY MORE THAN A TWO THIRDS MAJORITY, THAT'S THIS COUNCIL. THIS IS A PERMANENT ORDINANCE THAT IS GOING TO AFFECT FUTURE COUNCILS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAKEUP OF THOSE COUNCILS WILL BE AT THIS POINT.

I'D LIKE TO CALL ON THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CORPORATIONS, AARON IAQUINTO, TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.

SO, MR. IAQUINTO, I LIKE TO PREFACE MY QUESTIONS OF YOU BY SAYING THAT IN MY OPINION, THESE CORPORATIONS HAVE DONE YEOMAN'S SERVICE IN COLLECTIVELY ACHIEVING 11000 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THAT WE SHOULDN'T CHANGE A SYSTEM THAT ISN'T BROKEN.

BUT COULD YOU ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF HOW MUCH TAX REVENUE THE CITY HAS FOREGONE THROUGH THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY AND ERNIE QUINTO, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE DALLAS PFC AND THE DALLAS HFC.

WE DID A LITTLE STUDY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, AND WE TOTALED UP ALL OF THE TAX TAXES FORGONE FOR EACH CORPORATION.

AND SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE PFC, IT'S BEEN ABOUT $800,000 TOTAL FOR ALL PROJECTS, FOR ALL PROJECTS FOR THE PFC AND FOR THE HFC, WHICH HAS BEEN OPERATING QUITE A BIT LONGER, IT'S ABOUT $4.8 MILLION FOR ALL PROJECTS IN TOTAL.

THAT'S ABOUT ONGOING, ABOUT $200 A YEAR PER UNIT.

THAT SEEMS LIKE A VERY REASONABLE AMOUNT TO ACHIEVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO ME.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WITH THE HOUSING STAFF ABOUT THE TWO THIRDS MAJORITY REQUIREMENT AS CONTAINED IN THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR. HOW WAS THAT RESOLVED? THE TWO THIRDS MAJORITY REQUIREMENT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT OPPOSITION THERE FROM BOTH THE PFC AND HFC BOARDS OR THE DEVELOPMENT

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YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS TEND TO CHANGE. AND I THINK THERE'S A RISK OVER TIME THAT THAT SENTIMENTS WILL CHANGE.

AND SO JUST TO PROTECT THE THE ABILITY OF THESE PROJECTS TO GET DONE, WHICH IS INCREDIBLY HARD TO BEGIN WITH.

THERE'S, THERE'S A FEELING THAT WHY WOULD WE WANT TO BE MAKING IT EVEN HARDER WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FACING A SHORTAGE, WHEN WE'RE FACING A, A DIFFICULTY TO EVEN FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THESE PROJECTS.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO MAKE THAT HARDER TO GET APPROVED.

WELL, DO YOU HAVE A CONCERN THAT DEVELOPERS WILL BE DETERRED FROM EVEN PROPOSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IF THEY KNOW THAT THERE IS THIS TWO THIRDS MAJORITY REQUIREMENT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RELY ON, IS THAT WE DON'T WE DON'T PROPOSE OUR OWN PROJECTS.

WE'RE JUST THE CONDUIT THROUGH WHICH THE FINANCING IS IS ATTAINED.

AND SO WE RELY ON THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO BRING US THESE PROJECTS.

I KNOW THERE'S DEVELOPER CAN BE A BAD WORD AROUND THE COUNCIL, BUT AGAIN, WE DO WE RELY ON THEM TO BRING US PROJECTS THAT WILL WORK AND THAT THAT ARE VALUABLE TO THE COMMUNITY. SO WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO VET A PROJECT AND WHEN THEY MAKE A PROPOSAL, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE FINANCING, THAT THEY HAVE BACKING FROM THEIR THEIR FINANCIAL SUPPORTERS.

AND SO WHEN, WHEN THEIR BOARDS SEE THAT, HEY, DALLAS IS SIGNALING THAT IT'S EVEN HARDER TO UNDERGO THIS, THAT HAS A COOLING EFFECT ON, ON THEIR WILLINGNESS TO SPEND MONEY UP FRONT, BECAUSE THEY DO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY, IN MANY CASES, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS UP FRONT WITHOUT ANY PROMISE OF ANY RETURN.

AND SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO, TO REQUIRE MORE TO GET A PROJECT DONE UP FRONT.

AND SO, AGAIN, THERE'S A COOLING EFFECT AMONG THE COMMUNITY AND THAT THAT WILL RESULT IN LESS APPLICATIONS AND LESS OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU ALL TO WEIGH IN ON ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER THING YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DENY.

AND THAT DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT WAS ULTIMATELY RESOLVED.

HOW WAS THAT RESOLVED? YES, SIR. THROUGH THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

IT'S BEEN VERY PUBLIC. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF, MAYBE LONGER.

AND WE'VE HAD MANY, MANY DISCUSSIONS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN HOUSING STAFF, BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE'VE HAD MANY MEETINGS.

AND I THINK WE'VE COME TO A VERY UNIFIED SET OF RULES AND EVERYONE WAS VERY HAPPY WITH WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE IN AND OUT TODAY.

AND SO IT'S DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THAT WE'RE OPENING BACK UP THESE DEBATES AGAIN THAT.

SO FOR CLARITY, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE TWO CORPORATIONS AND THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT ARE ARE NOW ALIGNED IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 40.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT SUBMITTED THESE STATEMENTS AS IS, AND THEY WERE AGREED TO THEM AS AS WERE THE BOARDS.

BOTH BOARDS. AND. HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT REQUIRING TWO THIRDS COUNCIL VOTE TO APPROVE RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT OR NO OBJECTION FOR HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECTS AND HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION PROJECTS REQUESTING A WAIVER OF DECONCENTRATION FACTORS AS PROVIDED IN THIS MOTION? NO, SIR. SO THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMMITTEE MEETINGS, NO DISCUSSIONS WITH HOUSING AT ALL ABOUT THAT SUBJECT? NO, SIR. THAT IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD OF THIS. THIS REQUEST WAS JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.

YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. IAQUINTO. MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN RIDLEY BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS, AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEPER DIVE INTO THOSE ON THE TAX DEBATE ON THE TAX SAVINGS.

I'M SORRY, THE TAX LOSSES THAT WE'VE HAD. THOSE ARE BASED ON ON APPRAISED VALUES OF EITHER VACANT PROPERTIES OR LOW VALUE PROPERTIES, AND YOU EXTRAPOLATE THOSE NUMBERS OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD.

IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO EFFECT INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE PROJECT MAY ALREADY HAVE A A FUTURE VALUE AS THE AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGES THAT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES WOULD WOULD INCREASE.

IS THAT CORRECT? IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, WE ONLY CALCULATE THE TAX VALUE AS IT WAS BEFORE CONSTRUCTION.

YEAH. RIGHT. AND IT ALSO IS THIS THESE POLICIES HAVE A PROVISION IN THEM THAT THEY CAN BE REVIEWED AND CHANGED EVERY TWO YEARS.

ISN'T THAT ALSO CORRECT. I BELIEVE YEAH. YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THE POLICY WHENEVER COUNCIL DEEMS IT NECESSARY.

I THINK THERE WAS A DEFINITIVE DEAL FOR TWO YEARS, WHICH IS FINE.

AGAIN, I'M I AM NOT OPPOSED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

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BUT I THINK THAT THE IMPOSITION OF A LITTLE BIT MORE STRINGENT.

ANALYSIS BY BY OUR COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS WILL REALLY CREATE BETTER PROJECTS.

IT'LL CREATE A BETTER INTERACTION WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

IT'LL CREATE A BETTER QUALITY PROJECT. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY VETTED MORE, MORE STABLY, MORE THOUGHTFULLY MORE ECONOMICALLY POSITIVE FOR US.

AND I, AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, A BAD OUTCOME FOR HAVING ADDITIONAL SUPERVISION AND CRITERIA FROM OUR BODY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE WRITING CHECKS AND WE'RE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO GET MONEY.

TODAY WAS A PRIME EXAMPLE. WE, WE AUTHORIZED SOME, SOME VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECTS FROM PROJECTS.

AND THAT'S OKAY. THEY WERE WORTH IT. BUT THE GROUP DECIDED TO DO IT.

AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE KIND OF CHECK AND BALANCE THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY, FIDUCIARY AS A CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HANDLING OUR SIDE OF THE BARGAIN PROPERLY. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT A STEPCHILD.

IT IS AN IMPORTANT CORE FUNCTION OF OUR OF OUR CITY.

BUT WE STILL HAVE THE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAKING SURE THAT THESE PROJECTS COME IN ON BUDGET, THAT THEY MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE, AND THAT WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS CRITICALLY AND THAT THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE REPRESENT ARE, ARE, ARE INVOLVED AND, AND KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A BAD OUTCOME HERE. AND I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO RECONSIDER THE TWO THIRDS SITUATION.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE DIVIDED PORTION OF.

YES, PLEASE. OH, YES. SORRY, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR, I THINK, THREE MINUTES.

I THINK IT'S MY FIRST TIME ON THIS. I'M TOLD IT'S FIVE.

IT'S WISHFUL THINKING. I'M SORRY. I HEARD THAT.

WELL, FIRST I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THIS IS NOT THROWING OUT A YEAR AND A HALF OF WORK.

THE YEAR AND A HALF OF WORK WAS NOT MEANT TO GET TO THIS POINT.

A YEAR AND A HALF OF WORK WAS MEANT TO EDUCATE THE COUNCIL AND TALK THROUGH THE ITEMS. SO I WILL SAY, AS THE ONLY PERSON ON THE COUNCIL WHO'S ACTUALLY ATTENDED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETINGS, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A UNANIMOUS, UNANIMOUS DECISION ON ANY OF THIS.

AND CERTAINLY THERE'S BEEN SPIRITED CONVERSATION.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS MOVED SIGNIFICANTLY IN TERMS OF LEARNING HOW THEY WORK AND WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE.

SO THAT'S WHEN YOU HEAR FROM AARON SAYING, WOW, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE FOREGONE ON THE PFC 800 000 TOTAL, BUT MOST OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVEN'T BEEN BUILT YET.

SO YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT VACANT LAND. BUT IT'S COMING.

AND SO WE HAVEN'T FELT THE FULL EFFECT. AND IF YOU GO BACK AND WATCH THE MEETING, YOU'LL SEE A VERY ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS COMING OFF OUR TAX ROLLS AND THAT IS FOR SURE GOING TO HAPPEN, NOT TO MENTION OTHER ASPECTS. I'M WONDERING IF THOR IS AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU SIR. CAN YOU TALK TO THE TWO THIRDS ITEMS. HI, THOR ERIKSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. I DIDN'T QUITE HEAR THE QUESTION. CAN YOU TALK TO THE TWO THIRDS ITEMS, BOTH FOR THE LETTER OF NO OBJECTION, AS WELL AS THE PFC? WHY DID YOU INITIALLY RECOMMEND THAT? OH, THANK YOU FOR THE.

THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION HAS TO DO WITH LOOKING AT THE HISTORY OF CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY, STATEMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

IT'S SPECIFIC TO WHEN A DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUEST A WAIVER, WHICH IS ALLOWED UNDER THE QUALIFIED ACTION PLAN AND THEIR SUBMISSION TO TDHA, BECAUSE THEY'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER, THEY'RE ASKING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE NORMAL APPLICATION BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THESE ARE LOCATIONS IN AREAS OF HIGH POVERTY OR CLOSE TO EXISTING TAX CREDIT PROJECTS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.

SO CALLING ATTENTION TO THAT WAS AT ONE POINT, THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL TO BE MORE AWARE OF WHEN A DEVELOPMENT WAS ASKING FOR A WAIVER AND TO REACH THAT THRESHOLD. ON THE OTHER SIDE WAS WHEN A TAXABLE VALUATION OF AN IMPROVEMENT, A BUILDING WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY TAX ROLL.

THERE IS A FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE CITY AND WANTED TO MAKE THAT AWARE OF THAT THRESHOLD AT THE TWO THIRDS RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. AND SO WAS IT EVER PART OF YOUR RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE LOGITECH LETTER?

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SO IN ORDER TO HAVE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN POLICIES OF HOW A DEVELOPER WOULD REQUEST A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT OR NO OBJECTION, THE THRESHOLDS NEEDED TO MATCH SO THAT THE MAIN CORPORATION WHO IS REQUESTING A RESOLUTION, NO OBJECTION, WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME SET OF THRESHOLD CRITERIA.

THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM STATEMENT HAS BEEN AMENDED ALONG WITH BOTH OF THE PFC AND HFC ALL ALONG.

THIS LANGUAGE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT, ALTHOUGH HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME.

AT ONE POINT, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS A THREE FOURTHS REQUIREMENT AT CITY COUNCIL, BUT THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WE REDUCED THAT TO THE TWO THIRDS.

AND THEN THE PROPOSAL FINALLY IS FOR IT'S BEING PROPOSED TO TODAY WAS TO KEEP IT AT MAJORITY CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT I JUST ADDED THE HIGH TECH ITEM IN, OR WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM ORIGINAL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS? NO. ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN PART OF ORIGINAL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

IT'S BEEN PART OF AN EVOLVING PROCESS TO ENHANCE AND IMPROVE AND AMEND THE PROGRAM SO THAT WE PROVIDE CLARITY TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ON HOW TO SEEK SUPPORT FROM CITY COUNCIL.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME MISSTATEMENTS ABOUT FACTS.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT YES, THERE'S A VERY CLEAR REASON WHY THE HFC AND PFC ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TWO THIRDS, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF EXACTLY THE THING I'M SAYING.

THE COUNCIL IS CHANGING IN ITS APPETITE FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO APPROVE.

AND SO WHILE THERE'S BEEN NO PROBLEM, EVERY SINGLE DEAL HAS PASSED.

EVERY SINGLE DEAL HAS PASSED WITH TWO THIRDS.

THEY CAN SEE, ESPECIALLY AMONGST THE NEWER COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT THEY MAY START SAYING NO, AND THAT'S A DIFFERENT POSTURE. AND THEN YOU GOT A BIG ELECTION COMING.

NEXT TIME, HALF THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO TURN OVER, AND I THINK WE SHOULD EMPOWER THEM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT IMPACT THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY. I DON'T HAVE ANY ILLUSION THAT THIS COUNCIL WILL VOTE YES FOR EVERYTHING, AND THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO PROBABLY VOTE NO, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL CAN DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY.

AND THAT MEANS AT LEAST LOWERING THAT THRESHOLD AGAIN, JUST TO TWO THIRDS, WHICH HAS EASILY BEEN MET.

SO THERE ARE VERY, VERY STRONG FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NOT IN THIS MOTION, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT I HAVE TALKED ABOUT EVERY SINGLE TIME, IS LIMITING THE NUMBER OF DEALS FROM EACH OF THESE CORPORATIONS, AS WELL AS OR POSSIBLY OR LIMITING THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE EXEMPTION.

THERE'S ALSO NOT A BIG DISCUSSION WHERE THE COUNCIL IS CONTROLLING THE COLLECTED REVENUE FROM FEES THAT THE CORPORATIONS ARE RECEIVING, WHICH WE MAY WANT TO HAVE INPUT ON. SO THOSE TWO ITEMS, I THINK NEED TO BE CONTINUED.

CONVERSATION. THANK YOU. IS THERE IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE DIVIDED PORTION OF I GUESS IT'S YOUR AMENDMENT, ISN'T IT? CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN AMENDMENT TO AMENDMENT 40 TO ITEM 40.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SOUNDS LIKE THE NAYS HAVE IT. ALRIGHT, SO THAT PORTION FAILS.

MR.. BAZALDUA. WHAT WAS THE REMAINING PORTION? THE REMAINING PORTION IS TO REQUIRE THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION TO APPOINT THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT AS A NON-VOTING, EX OFFICIO BOARD MEMBER.

OKAY, THANKS FOR THAT. YOU'RE YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES, IF YOU LIKE, ON THAT PORTION. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR AARON AND KEN AND THOR TO PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

FOR CLARIFICATION, WERE YOU LOOKING FOR KEITH? YES. OKAY. SORRY, KEN.

KEN. OKAY. SO THIS IS TO ME, I BELIEVE, A VERY REASONABLE SUGGESTION. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY THING ARTICULATED THAT WOULD BRING HARM TO THE PROCESS, TO THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS. I WILL FIRST.

WELL, NO, I'LL ASK YOU GUYS FIRST. SO I WANT TO GIVE EACH OF YOU ALL AN OPPORTUNITY FROM YOUR RESPECTIVE PERSPECTIVES ON WHY THIS HAS BEEN

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WELL, I, I GUESS I'LL GO AHEAD AND START. OH.

I'M SORRY. KEITH PRESIDENT OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC FACILITIES CORPORATION AND DISTRICT 14 REP BASICALLY WE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THOR WE SAID YOU, YOU BASICALLY HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW YOU CAN ATTEND OUR MEETINGS. WE WELCOME YOU ALL THE TIME.

YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE EVEN HAVE A NAMEPLATE ON OUR ON OUR LITTLE CIRCLE WHERE, WHERE THOR CAN SIT AT. A THE ONLY CONCERN THAT WE HAD WAS REALLY A LEGAL CONCERN.

AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE ARE A INCORPORATED WITH THE STATE BY STATE LAW, THE PFC.

THERE WERE LEGAL CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY OUR COUNSEL AND I BELIEVE MISS PALOMINO IS NOT HERE NOW, BUT THERE WERE SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS ON THE LEGALITY OF HAVING AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST OF HAVING A CITY EMPLOYEE SIT ON THE BOARD THAT IS APPROVING THE ITEMS THAT WE APPROVE AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD BE.

I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, SO I WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO DEFER THAT TO A SUMMER GREAT HOUSE OR A CITY ATTORNEY HERE, BUT THOSE WERE SOME OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT BASICALLY WE CAN DO EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.

THOR HAS ALL THE OTHER THAN SITTING IN ON EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.

EVERYTHING ELSE WE WELCOME AND WE'VE HAD THAT UP TO THIS POINT.

OKAY. AARON. YES. THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LEGALITIES AND, AND ABOUT THE RISK THAT YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE EXPOSING THOR TO SAY, YOU KNOW, JUST HYPOTHETICALLY. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE BOARD WANTS TO DO WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, AND OBVIOUSLY SO DOES STAFF. BUT THERE IS ALSO A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE BOARD HAS TO THE CORPORATION.

AND THAT'S PARTLY WHY THE IT IS SEPARATE, RIGHT.

BECAUSE THERE IS SEPARATE LEGAL LIABILITIES OF OWNING PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT ONE OF THE MAIN PURPOSES IS TO DO.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE A CITY EMPLOYEE WHO OSTENSIBLY COULD SIT INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND BE PRIVY TO INFORMATION THAT IS ONLY PRIVY TO BOARD MEMBERS.

AND THEN IF THAT BOARD MEMBER, IF THAT CITY STAFF GOES AND COMMUNICATES ANY OF THAT INFORMATION OUTSIDE OF THAT MEETING, THAT IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND THAT THAT'S IN VIOLATION OF OF THE WHATEVER ACT.

OKAY. THAT'S I THINK THAT YOU WENT INTO I UNDERSTAND THAT BOTH OF YOU ALL HAVE ADDRESSED THE CONCERNS ABOUT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THOSE CONCERNS HAVE ALL BEEN ADDRESSED. AND WE'VE BEEN GIVEN CLEAR DIRECTION THAT IT IS NOT.

SO IF IT IS NOT ILLEGAL AND IT IS NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ETHICALLY Y'ALL ARE STILL LEANING ON THAT FOR YOUR REASONING.

SO THOR, COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YOU BELIEVED THIS TO BE MOST ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE CITY? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THE ROLE OF THE CORPORATIONS AND HAVING CITY STAFF HAVE ACCESS TO THE CORPORATIONS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN WE HAVE WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. NO DIFFERENT THAN WE HAVE WITH OUR DALLAS HOUSING ACQUISITION DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE LAND BANK, THAT WE HAVE CITY STAFF IN. IT'S NO DIFFERENT FROM FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT ARE. COME AND ASK FOR CITY STAFF REPRESENTATION ON COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION BOARDS. HAVING SOME OVERSIGHT AND COMPLIANCE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO HAVE ABILITY TO TALK AND LINK PROGRAMS AND POLICIES TO PROPOSED APPLICATIONS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST. A BOARD LIAISON DOES SERVE THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE AVENUES TO, TO USE TO ACHIEVE THIS. SO IT'S AT THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO DECIDE ON WHAT IS IN THE BEST THOUGHT FROM YOUR DIRECTION AND HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD.

IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER WOULD HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY? NO, SIR. IT'S A NON-VOTING MEMBERSHIP. HAVING ABILITY TO, TO WEIGH IN ON PROJECTS THROUGH THE BOARD LIAISON.

WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN BE INVITED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR GENERAL BRIEFING, DISMISSED WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AT A LEGAL ISSUE, BUT STILL HAVE ACCESS TO GET BRIEFINGS ON THE PROJECTS THAT MIGHT BE MORE RISKY AND NEED TO PROVIDE DIRECT AWARENESS TO CITY STAFF OR WHAT MIGHT BE COMING.

SO OKAY. SO I GUESS THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY COMMENT IS ONE THAT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS BECAUSE I, I WOULD GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF OUR MAYOR APPOINTS SOMEONE FROM THIS BODY ON

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I KNOW THAT WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS AROUND THIS HORSESHOE HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.

BUT WHEN WE WALK INTO THAT BOARD MEETING AS THAT APPOINTEE, WE THEN HAVE THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE SITTING IN ON AND HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT? IF THE ATTORNEYS COULD WEIGH IN, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT IS PRETTY CLEAR.

AND, AND I BELIEVE CHAPTER 51 A AS WELL ON OUR LOCAL CODE FOR DEFINING EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IT'S CONFIDENTIALITY AND THE CONSEQUENCES THEREOF.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY EXPECTATIONS OF EXECUTIVE SESSION PER STATE STATUTE.

SO UNDER 12 A OUR CITY CODE OUR CITY CODE OF ETHICS.

YOU ARE ANYONE WHO ATTENDS A EXECUTIVE SESSION MUST KEEP THAT INFORMATION CONFIDENTIAL.

IT'S ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT RELEASE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION IS THE OFFENSE.

UNDER THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, YOU'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO KEEP INFORMATION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION CONFIDENTIAL.

WOULD THAT BE ANY DIFFERENT FOR AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER? NO. WOULD THAT BE ANY DIFFERENT FROM SOMEONE WHO, IN THAT ROLE AS EX OFFICIO MAY HAVE A FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY IN THEIR DAY TO DAY ROLE WITH THE CITY. FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL WEARING ESSENTIALLY TWO HATS WITH A FIDUCIARY DUTY TO ONE BODY AND A FIDUCIARY DUTY TO ANOTHER ENTITY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO KEEP THE CONFIDENCE OF THE ONE SEPARATE FROM THE THE OTHER.

AND THAT'S ALREADY AN EXPECTATION BECAUSE OF STATE LAW.

THAT IS ALREADY AN EXPECTATION. IN ADDITION TO STATE LAW, WE HAVE IT BUILT IN TO OUR LOCAL CODE.

SO AGAIN, WHEN I'M ASKING, YOU KNOW, FROM AS, AS CHAIR WEST ARTICULATED VERY WELL THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT IN, THE AMOUNT OF TECHNICALITY THAT'S BEEN IN THE AMOUNT OF EXPERTISE THAT'S BEEN WEIGHED IN.

AND I ASK THE LEADERS OF THESE RESPECTIVE BODIES WHAT YOUR OPPOSITION STEMS FROM.

AND THE ANSWER IS NOTHING OTHER THAN ANECDOTAL.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASON BEHIND AND WHAT THIS WOULD THREATEN IN THE PROCESS.

I WANT AN INTEGRAL PROCESS. I WANT US TO HAVE A CLEARER PATH TO.

TO TO MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT I AM JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE FEAR IS OR WHAT THE ANTICIPATED IMPACT WOULD BE TO HAVE AN EX OFFICIO MEMBER.

NOW WE'RE ASKING TO VOTE ON THESE PROGRAM STATEMENTS.

AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU OF THE FIDUCIARY HAT THAT I HAVE.

AND THIS RECOMMENDATION IS ABOUT OUR CITY HAVING AN ADEQUATE SEAT AT THE TABLE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ONE THAT'S ALREADY GOT MULTIPLE GUARDRAILS BUILT IN, BOTH AT THE LOCAL AND THE STATE LEVEL.

SO WITHOUT THERE BEING A CLEAR REASON AND OPPOSITION, I'M ASKING THE BODY TO CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH FORTH BY STAFF THAT I THINK HAS BEEN ARTICULATED VERY WELL ON WHY IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN ARTICULATED VERY WELL ON THE OPPOSITION.

SO I DO SUPPORT AN EX OFFICIO. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS A MAKE OR BREAK AT ALL TO THE OVERALL WORK THAT'S BEEN PUT INTO THIS.

I THINK THAT THIS IS VERY TECHNICAL, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OVERALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIR RIDLEY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WELL, I DISAGREE WITH MR. BAZALDUA ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ALLOWING AN EX OFFICIO ON THE BOARD, AND IT GOES TO THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THESE CORPORATIONS.

THEY'RE CALLED CORPORATIONS RATHER THAN CITY COMMISSIONS OR DEPARTMENTS FOR A REASON.

THEY WERE INCORPORATED UNDER SPECIFIC STATE LEGISLATION TO CREATE BODIES THAT WERE INDEPENDENT OF CITY GOVERNMENT SO THAT THEY COULD CARRY ON TRANSACTIONS THAT CITY GOVERNMENT CANNOT, FOR EXAMPLE, OWNING PROPERTY, DEVELOPING PROPERTY, ETC.. MR. PALMUCCI, WHEN YOU RESPONDED TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THIS THE RESPONSE, THE STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE AFTER YOUR RESPONSE WAS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS ALREADY CLEARED ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BETWEEN THE CITY STAFF AND THE CORPORATION'S. AFTER YOU HAVE CONFERRED AS THE PRESIDENT OF YOUR BOARD WITH YOUR COUNCIL, WHAT CONCLUSION DID YOU

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WE DO THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT IT WAS CONSIDERED TO BE NOT AT LEAST QUESTIONABLY LEGAL.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE COMMENTS OF THE SECRETARY OF THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, TONY PAGE, WHO UNFORTUNATELY COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

HE ALSO STATES THAT THEIR BOARD IS OPPOSED TO AN EX OFFICIO BOARD ROLE, BECAUSE IT BLURS THE LINE BETWEEN OVERSIGHT ON THE PART OF THE BOARD AND EXECUTION ON THE PART OF STAFF.

IT CREATES LEGAL RISK IN TERMS OF OPEN MEETINGS ACT PRIVILEGE CONFLICTS.

IF THE CITY AND THE HOUSING CORPORATION INTERESTS DIVERGE, IT UNDERMINES THE INDEPENDENCE THAT ALLOWS THE HOUSING CORPORATION TO OPERATE EFFICIENTLY. MOST IMPORTANT, HE STATES, IT DOESN'T ADD REAL OVERSIGHT.

COUNCIL ALREADY HAS FULL CONTROL THROUGH APPOINTMENTS TO THE BOARD'S APPROVALS OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS.

THE BOTTOM LINE HE STATES THAT THIS INTRODUCES GOVERNANCE AND LEGAL COMPLICATIONS WITHOUT PROVIDING MEANINGFUL NEW ACCOUNTABILITY OR BENEFIT. AND MY CONCLUSION IS WHY RISK POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND GOVERNANCE COMPLICATIONS WHEN THERE IS NO BENEFIT FOR DOING THAT? THANK YOU CHAIR.

MENDELSOHN. THANK YOU. THOR, CAN YOU COME AND EXPLAIN WHY WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE EX OFFICIO STATUS? HI. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IT WAS NOT A PERSONAL PREFERENCE.

THE REQUEST WAS TO HAVE STAFF HAVE A FORMAL ROLE WITH BOTH BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO ENSURE THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED AND MOVING FORWARD WERE IN ALIGNMENT WITH CITY POLICY. SO EX OFFICIO WAS ONE PATH FORWARD.

AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS ASPECT OF THE POLICY HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO HAVE THIS? IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A FORMALIZED ROLE WITH BOTH BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

PART OF THIS DISCUSSION ALSO WAS THE COMPLIANCE AND BYLAW UPDATES.

SO WHETHER THIS IS EX OFFICIO OR LIAISON, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH BOTH BOARDS TO HAVE A FORMALIZED ROLE SO THAT THERE'S CONTINUITY BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND CORPORATION STAFF. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU THAT FOR ME, I STARTED OFF MUCH MORE NEUTRAL ON THIS TOPIC. AND THE MORE I HEARD FROM THE CORPORATION, THE MORE IMPORTANT I FELT IT WAS TO HAVE CITY STAFF THERE BECAUSE THE.

THE VIGOR OF OPPOSITION TO HAVING JUST AN EX OFFICIO, MEANING NO ONE VOTES.

THEY JUST SIT IN THE MEETING. AND THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN SO STRONG IN OPPOSITION THAT IT REALLY MAKES ME WONDER WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THAT MEETING THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY SIT IN.

I SERVE ON THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS BOARD.

WE HAVE AN EX OFFICIO OF A STATE REP AND IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

SO I INCLUDING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION OTHER THAN WHEN WE'RE BEING SUED IN OUR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY.

SO I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR GOAL IS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, OUR RESIDENTS AND THE CITY. AND I, I JUST CANNOT UNDERSTAND.

WE WON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO SHARE IT.

BUT HE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ALIGNMENT, THERE MAY BE INFORMATION HE CAN SHARE WITH THAT BOARD THAT HE WOULDN'T OTHERWISE KNOW NEEDS TO BE SHARED. SO I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT AND I HOPE THAT Y'ALL WILL SUPPORT THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH. THANK YOU.

I'M SENSITIVE TO THE THE CORPORATE STRUCTURE AND TO THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH CREATING A BOARD OF DIRECTORS SEAT, EVEN IF IT IS EX OFFICIO AND NONVOTING FOR A CITY STAFFER.

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THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE. SO I THINK IT GIVES IT GIVES THE ABILITY TO INCLUDE THE STAFF IN A IN A PROACTIVE AND VISIBLE MANNER, BUT IT ALSO SEPARATES THE CONFLICT THAT POTENTIALLY COULD OCCUR WITH A CITY CITY EMPLOYEE BEING INVOLVED IN A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT SHOULD BE DIVORCED FROM, FROM FROM THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTIES. SO I WOULD I WOULD, I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO APPROVING THE, THE MOTION AS IT'S, AS IT'S AMENDED WITH REGARD TO ALLOWING A BOARD OF DIRECTORS SEAT FOR THE FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD DEPARTMENT DESIGNEE. THANK YOU, CHAIR WEST.

I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS MOTION AS WELL.

I AGREE WITH MR. ROTH AND CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. I RESPECT THE AUTONOMY OF THE CORPORATIONS.

I THINK YOU KNOW, SUGGESTING THAT THERE'S SOMETHING NEFARIOUS GOING ON IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE MEETINGS WITH THE CORPORATIONS IS, IS ANOTHER DISINGENUOUS COMMENT.

WE HAVE WE HAVE OUR OWN APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVES.

IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CORPORATIONS, CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE THAT YOU HAVE APPOINTED AND TALK TO THEM.

SO WE WILL STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF ADVICE FROM HOUSING STAFF WHEN THESE DEALS COME TO US, FOR US TO VOTE UP OR VOTE DOWN. THE CORPORATIONS WILL STILL HAVE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING HOUSING STAFF THERE TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS.

THAT'S MY POSITION. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.

THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS GEARED TOWARDS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR I DIDN'T INSINUATE ANY NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY.

THAT THAT WASN'T THE POINT. I DO APPOINT PEOPLE TO THESE BOARDS BECAUSE I EXPECT THEM TO WHOLEHEARTEDLY ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THOSE BOARDS, BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT I AM ELECTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE MY JOB IS TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THESE BOARDS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SO WELL ELOQUENTLY ARTICULATED THAT ARE MEANT TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENCE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, THOUGH, IS THAT TO COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY'S POINTS, IN DISAGREEING WITH ME, I RESPECTFULLY WOULD CHALLENGE YOU ON WHY THERE WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE IN SUPPORTING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHOSE BYLAWS ALSO ARTICULATE THEIR BEING EX OFFICIO MEMBERS FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS.

IT IS A CORPORATION. THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR REASONING.

IT WAS MEANT TO BE ESTABLISHED WITH INDEPENDENCE.

THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR REASONING. AND IN FACT, THEY HAVE TWO.

ONE IS OUR CITY MANAGER AND ONE IS THE DIRECTOR OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS NOT AN ANOMALY AS IT WAS DESCRIBED. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT POSES A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND IS PRECEDENT SETTING, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A PRACTICE WITH OTHER INDEPENDENT CORPORATIONS THAT WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE OVERSIGHT, DIRECT OVERSIGHT WITH PEOPLE WHO REPORT TO US.

SOMEONE WHO REPORTS DIRECTLY TO OUR DIRECT REPORT IN THE CITY MANAGER IS EXACTLY HOW WE ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE OVERSIGHT IN THAT PROCESS.

AND I DON'T REMEMBER THERE EVER BEING ADVOCATES FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND THEM WANTING TO HAVE AUTONOMY AND THE ABILITY TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS WAS NOT A PART OF.

THE REALITY IS, IS THAT WE CAN CALL CORPORATION WHAT IT IS, BUT A CORPORATION THAT IS SUSTAINING THEMSELVES FROM PUBLIC DOLLARS IS STILL GOING TO HAVE A LEVEL OF SCRUTINY AND EXPECTATION TO ANSWER TO THE TAXPAYERS.

THIS ISN'T JUST A CORPORATION. THIS ISN'T DEALING WITH A NORMAL BOARD OF OR STAKEHOLDERS OF

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AND I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE DIRECT OVERSIGHT AND SOMEONE IN THE ROOM.

I DON'T THINK IT COMPROMISES THE PROCESS. I DON'T THINK IT COMPROMISES THE BODY.

AND WE'VE ALREADY HEARD VERY CLEARLY THAT THERE IS NO LEGAL CHALLENGES OR CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHO WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE TAXPAYERS OR THE CORPORATIONS THAT WERE MEANT TO BE INDEPENDENT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MENDELSOHN CHAIR MENDELSOHN. WELL, I'LL JUST SAY THIS, THAT THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER BAZALDUA, FOR BRINGING UP THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THAT WAS A GREAT WAY TO SHOW HOW WE HAVEN'T OPPOSED THIS IN OTHER AREAS.

THE ALIGNMENT AND OVERSIGHT IS NEEDED FROM THIS ROLE, AND IT'S PART OF GOOD GOVERNANCE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. JUST GOOD GOVERNANCE HERE.

AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SAYING SOMETHING NEFARIOUS IS HAPPENING.

IT'S SAYING THAT WE WANT TO PUT THE PEOPLE AND THE ROLES IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MANAGING GOVERNANCE PROPERLY.

SO MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A RECORD VOTE. THANK YOU.

NOTED. COUNCILMEMBER ROTH. I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO REITERATE THE POINT THAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PFC MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THEIR INDEPENDENT COUNSEL HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN COUNCIL AS A BODY, QUESTIONING IT, I THINK, IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING SERIOUSLY.

AND IT'S AND IT'S VERY RELEVANT TO OUR DISCUSSION.

AND IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE INSIDE BODY HAS A QUESTION ABOUT IT.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO HONOR THAT THAT ADVICE AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ADVICE.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE, THAT THE PROVISION AS WRITTEN IN THE AMENDED POLICY REALLY SOLVES THE SAME PROBLEM.

IT CREATES THE, IT ALLOWS FOR THE SAME OVERSIGHT.

IT ALLOWS FOR THE SAME PARTICIPATION WITHOUT POTENTIALLY HAVING ANY KIND OF A, OF A CONFLICT OR A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW OR A VIOLATION OF CORPORATE GOVERNANCE. AGAIN, I THINK WE GET THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS IF WE ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE TO THE POLICY THAT'S WRITTEN AS IT'S BEEN PROPOSED IN, IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENT. AND I WOULD VOTE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THEM AS A BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO FURTHER COMMENTS MADAM CITY SECRETARY, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR.

NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBER. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

COUNCIL MEMBER CADENA NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA.

YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BLACKMON. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. STEWART. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.

NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. MENDELSOHN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY.

NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WILLIS IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN.

MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO. YES. MAYOR JOHNSON. YES.

FOUR WITH FOUR WITH FOUR VOTING IN FAVOR. NINE OPPOSED TWO.

ASK ONE VOTE TAKEN. THE MOTION FAILS, MR. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE BACK TO CHAIRMAN WEST'S MAIN MOTION.

OKAY. SEEING. NO. NO DISCUSSION. LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON FAVOR.

SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NO. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR NEXT ITEM IS AGENDA ITEM 46.

[46. 26-1359A Authorize Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to the contract to exercise the second and final one-year renewal option with Populus Technologies, Inc. from April 15, 2026 through April 14, 2027, for the Mobility Manager data analysis subscription and consulting services, including the verification of the City’s revenue share from the trips, supporting the shared dockless vehicle program - Not to exceed $52,093.00, from $141,862.50 to $193,955.50 - Financing: General Fund (subject to annual appropriations) *In alignment with Infrastructure Management Plan.]

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AGENDA ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 47. AUTHORIZE AN AMENDMENT TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 25-0665.

[47. 26-1418A Authorize an amendment to Resolution No. 25-0665, previously approved on April 23, 2025, declaring approximately 217,911 square feet of improved land together with approximately 228,322 square feet of building improvements unwanted and unneeded, located near the intersection of North Stemmons Freeway and West Mockingbird Lane, and authorizing its advertisement for sale by public auction or through a real estate brokerage service, to revise Section 6(b) to add subparagraph (vi) to provide that in the event the City elects to terminate the contract due to a determination that the property is needed for a public purpose, the City shall reimburse Buyer for customary due diligence expenses up to an amount not to exceed $150,000.00 (Including Title Policy and Survey cost expended) - Not to exceed $150,000.00 - Financing: Building Inspection Fund]

UNWANTED AND UNNEEDED. LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH STEMMONS FREEWAY AND WEST MOCKINGBIRD LANE AND AUTHORIZING ITS ADVERTISEMENT FOR SALE BY PUBLIC AUCTION OR THROUGH A REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE SERVICE TO REVISE SECTION SIX, B TO ADD SUBPARAGRAPH SIX TO PROVIDE THAT IN THE EVENT THE CITY ELECTS TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT DUE TO A DETERMINATION THAT THE BUILDING IS NEEDED FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE, THE CITY SHALL REIMBURSE BUYER FOR CUSTOMARY DUE DILIGENCE EXPENSES UP TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $150,000.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION? MOVE TO DENY. I HEARD THE MOTION TO DENY FIRST.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? ALL RIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

IT'S A MOTION TO DENY. FOLKS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

MOTION TO DENY. ITEM 47. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS.

I CHECKED WITH CITY ATTORNEY ON THIS. THIS IS FOR THE STEMMONS PROPERTY.

AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE APPROPRIATE MOTION IS TO MOVE TO DENY ON THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO BE GONE FOR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DENY.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 48. AUTHORIZE AN AMENDMENT TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 25-0917.

[48. 26-1417A Authorize an amendment to Resolution No. 25-0917, previously approved on June 11, 2025, declaring approximately 14.257 acres of improved land together with approximately 121,826 square feet of building improvements unwanted and unneeded located near the intersection of South Hampton Road and Perryton Drive, and authorizing its advertisement for sale by public auction or through a real estate brokerage service, to revise Section 6(b) to add subparagraph (vi) to provide that in the event the City elects to terminate the contract due to a determination that the property is needed for a public purpose, the City shall reimburse Buyer for customary due diligence expenses up to an amount not to exceed $250,000.00 (Including Title Policy and Survey cost expended) - Not to exceed $250,000.00 - Financing: General Capital Reserve Fund]

UNWANTED AND UNNEEDED. LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTHAMPTON ROAD IN PERINTON DRIVE AND AUTHORIZING ITS ADVERTISEMENT FOR SALE BY PUBLIC AUCTION OR THROUGH A REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE SERVICE TO REVISE SECTION SIX.

B TO ADD SUBPARAGRAPH SIX TO PROVIDE THAT IN THE EVENT THE CITY ELECTS TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT DUE TO A DETERMINATION THAT THE PROPERTY IS NEEDED FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE, THE CITY SHALL REIMBURSE BUYER FOR CUSTOMARY DUE DILIGENCE EXPENSES UP TO AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $250,000.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN. MOVE.

APPROVAL. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? DISCUSSION? ANYONE SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. AGENDA ITEM 49.

[49. 26-1379A An ordinance granting renewal of a revocable license to 7-Eleven, Inc., for the use of approximately 11 square feet of aerial space to occupy, maintain and utilize an existing blade sign over a portion of Akard Street right-of-way located near its intersection with Patterson Street - Revenue: General Fund $1,000.00 annually, plus the $20.00 ordinance publication fee]

FOR THE USE OF APPROXIMATELY 11FT² OF AERIAL SPACE TO OCCUPY, MAINTAIN, AND UTILIZE AN EXISTING BLADE SIGN OVER A PORTION OF AKARD STREET RIGHT OF WAY, LOCATED NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH PATTERSON STREET.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION ITEM 49.

ANYONE, PLEASE MOVE APPROVAL. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THE EYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. NOW WE'RE MOVING.

[50. 26-1374A An ordinance granting a revocable license to 7-Eleven, Inc., for the use of a total of approximately 72 square feet of aerial space to occupy, maintain and utilize two blade signs, two facade signs and a canopy without premise sign over portions of Field and Commerce Streets rights-of-way located near its intersection with Main Street - Revenue: General Fund $4,000.00 annually and $100.00 one-time fee, plus the $20.00 ordinance publication fee]

FOR THE USE OF A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 72FT² OF LAND OF AERIAL SPACE TO OCCUPY, MAINTAIN AND UTILIZE TWO BLADE SIGNS, TWO FACADE SIGNS, AND A CANOPY WITHOUT PERMITS SIGN OVER PORTIONS OF FIELD AND COMMERCE STREETS RIGHT OF WAY. LOCATED NEAR ITS INTERSECTION WITH MAIN STREET.

THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION? YEAH, I HEARD A MOTION A SECOND DOWN THERE, I THINK.

AND ANY DISCUSSION? DON'T SEE ANY. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. THANKS, Y'ALL. AGENDA ITEM 51.

[51. 26-1360A Authorize a ten-year cooperative purchasing agreement for data center relocation, operating, and managed services for the Department of Information and Technology Services with Terralogic Solutions, Inc. through The Interlocal Purchasing System (TIPS) cooperative agreement - Not to Exceed $26,774,610.57 - Financing: Data Services Fund ($22,570,653.03), and ITS Projects and Governance Fund ($401,520.00), and Information Technology Equipment Fund ($3,191,779.34), and 2008A Certificate of Obligation-CIS Fund ($610,658.20) (subject to annual appropriations)]

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ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY? ABOUT 51.

ANYTHING? NOTHING. NOTHING. NO. ANYTHING. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I. ANY OPPOSED? NO. THE EYES HAVE IT. MADAM SECRETARY. I CAN'T DO THAT. MR. MAYOR, AGENDA ITEM 52. ARE WE. MAYOR. CAN WE COME BACK TO THIS ITEM? WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME FOR YOU GUYS. I MOVE TO TABLE ITEM 52 UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTION HEARING? NONE. SO ORDERED. ITEM 52 HAS BEEN TABLED TO THE END OF THE MEETING.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO ZONING NOW. THANKS FOR BUYING ME A LITTLE TIME, GUYS. THAT WAS A CLEVER SOLUTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR, BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z

[Z5. 26-1185A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an MF-2(A) Multifamily District on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the west line of Ledbetter Drive, north of Tyrone Drive Recommendation of Staff: Approval Recommendation of CPC: Approval Z-25-000154 *In alignment with ForwardDallas.]

YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THAT PURPOSE. MR. BAZALDUA I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL MAY 27TH.

MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? NO, SIR. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT.

NEXT ITEM. OKAY. MR. MAYOR, WE WILL. THOSE WERE YOUR DEFERRALS.

FOR JUST A MINUTE TO SEE IF WE HAVE. THANK YOU. LET ME FIND COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY.

ANYONE WHO CAN MAKE THAT MOTION FOR HIM.

MR. MAYOR. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I HAVE HIS WONDERFUL.

GO FOR IT. I MOVED TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL MAY 13TH, 2026, WHICH IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

ANY DISCUSSION? NO, SIR. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEMS DEFERRED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER? WAS THAT Z ITEM Z5Z5Z5. THANK YOU MAYOR. YES, MA'AM.

FOR WHAT PURPOSE? RECOGNIZED FOR A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.

A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME FOR PERSONAL PRIVILEGE TONIGHT.

I'D JUST LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE ZONING SHEET WITH ALL OF THE DATES OF ORIGINAL SUBMISSION BE SENT TO ME.

OKAY. YOU WILL HANDLE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA.

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IS BEING PULLED BY COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON. ITEM Z FIVE WAS PREVIOUSLY DEFERRED.

THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT. YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEM Z ONE THROUGH Z THREE AND Z SIX THROUGH Z 16.

I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD. ITEM Z ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUB DISTRICT FOR A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES AND STANDARDS ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY AND NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY ITEM C2 IS A PUB, IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN APPLICATION FOR A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE TERMINATION OF D1 LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF LEMON AVENUE BETWEEN MCKINNEY AVENUE AND NOBLE IN NOBLE AVENUE.

ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 372 ON THE SOUTHWEST LINE OF LEMON AVENUE EAST,

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ITEM Z SIX IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF WEST DAVIS STREET AND SOUTH COCKRELL HILL ROAD. ITEM Z SEVEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF WEST DAVIS STREET, WEST OF COCKRELL HILL ROAD. ITEM Z EIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING THE TERMINATION OF DEED RESTRICTION AND A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF FOUR ACRE STREET BETWEEN NORTH VERNON AVENUE AND NORTH VAN BUREN BUREN AVENUE. ITEM Z NINE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 752, ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF EDGAR ROAD AND GARDEN GROVE DRIVE.

ITEM Z TEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND ONE. AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A D DASH, ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY AND TO AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE.

3500FT² OR LESS ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WEST CLAREDON DRIVE AND SOUTH ROSEMONT AVENUE.

ITEM C 11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING. AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN M, U-1 MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF HAVERHILL LANE, NORTH OF ELM ROAD AND EAST LINE OF NORTH PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD.

ITEM 12 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SUBDISTRICT 11 WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 621.

THE OLD TRINITY AND DESIGN DISTRICT SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF INSPIRATION DRIVE AND NORTH STEMMONS FREEWAY.

ITEM 13 IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2519 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD BETWEEN NORTH SCYENE ROAD AND BLOSSOM LANE.

ITEM 14 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2586 FOR A HOTEL OR MOTEL USE ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF MAIN STREET, EAST OF SOUTH PEARL EXPRESSWAY.

ITEM Z 15 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A.

GRANTING A HISTORIC OVERLAY OF EL RANCHITO RESTAURANT, INCLUDING ADJACENT PARCELS AT 602 AND 605 WEST JEFFERSON BOULEVARD ON PROPERTY AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST JEFFERSON BOULEVARD ON SOUTH LEWELLEN AVENUE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AND ITEM Z 16 IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 171 WITHIN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 193. THE OAK LAWN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT IN AN AREA BOUNDED BY LEMON AVENUE, THROCKMORTON STREET, BOWSER AVENUE AND REAGAN STREET.

YOU DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON A FEW OF YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM Z TWO. TONY MARTI.