* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WE'LL GET THIS PARTY STARTED. [00:00:02] GOOD [Community Police Oversight Board on May 12, 2026.] EVENING EVERYONE. I'D LIKE TO OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. MY NAME IS JOHN MARK DAVIDSON. I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD. WE HAVE CONFIRMED A QUORUM, SO WE ARE READY TO PROCEED. THE OFFICIAL START TIME FOR THIS MEETING IS 5:39 PM WE'LL NOW BEGIN THIS MEETING WITH A ROLL CALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS. EACH OF US HAVE BEEN NOMINATED AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO SERVE AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS, AS I CALL EACH DISTRICT, PLEASE INDICATE YOUR PRESENCE. DISTRICT ONE, OZZY, UH, CAN YOU HEAR US ONLINE? BRANDON, CAN YOU HEAR US OKAY? SO, UH, YES, I CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. UH, OZZY, CAN YOU HEAR US? OKAY, WE'LL COME BACK. WE'LL COME BACK TO DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT THREE. TONGA. HIGGINS, DISTRICT THREE, PRESENT DISTRICT FOUR. DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. PRESENT DISTRICT FIVE. BRIAN BA, DISTRICT FIVE, PRESENT. DISTRICT SIX. DISTRICT SEVEN IS CURRENTLY VACANT. DISTRICT EIGHT, JUDGE C VICTOR LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT, PRESENT. DISTRICT NINE. DISTRICT 10. DISTRICT 10. JENNY KING, PRESENT DISTRICT 11. DISTRICT 12 IS VACANT. DISTRICT 13. JULIA SIMON, DISTRICT 13, PRESENT. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14. BRANDON FRIEDMAN, PRESENT AND DISTRICT 15. MY NAME IS JOHN MARK DAVIDSON. I AM PRESENT FOR THOSE JOINING US IN PERSON AND ONLINE. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS AN OFFICIAL MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD AND IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE DESIGNED TO FOSTER OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY STAKEHOLDERS, WHILE ENSURING THAT THE BOARD'S BUSINESS IS CONDUCTED EFFICIENTLY AND RESPECTFULLY. SO TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL, WE, UH, WE WE ASK THAT DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR IS, IS NOT HERE. ALL ATTENDEES MUST REMAIN SEATED UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED. ANYONE CAUSING A DISRUPTION WILL RECEIVE A WARNING. CONTINUED DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN THE REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING, AND THE BOARD IS COMMITTED TO ACCESSIBILITY. IF YOU REQUIRE TRANSLATION SERVICES, SIGN LANGUAGE, INTERPRETERS, OR OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS, PLEASE CONTACT OUR OFFICE AT O CPO@DALLAS.GOV AND PLEASE DO SO AT LEAST 72 HOURS BEFORE THIS MEETING. THE PURPOSE OF THE CPOB, THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, CPOB, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD, IS TO BUILD AND MAINTAIN TRUST BY ENSURING THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT INVOLVING DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL ARE REVIEWED FAIRLY, TRANSPARENTLY AND THOROUGHLY. THE BOARD IS SUPPORTED BY THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, THE OCPO, WHICH PROVIDES LOGISTICAL AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP US FULFILL THIS MISSION AND MAINTAIN ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE COMPLAINT PROCESS. SO WE'RE GONNA NOW MOVE, UH, TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, OPEN MICROPHONE, AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULES OF PROCEDURE. EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. AND DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, THIS TIME MAY BE ADJUSTED. WE HAVE HERE, UH, SIGNED UP, ISAIAH AVAREZ ALVAREZ. UH, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. COME ON DOWN. WELCOME, ZAEL. YEAH, YOU KNOW THE DRILL. UH, WHENEVER, UH, YOU BEGIN, WE'LL START THE TIMER AND, UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I WANNA START BY SAYING THAT I UNDERSTAND THE CHIEF AND DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP ARE IN A DIFFICULT POSITION RIGHT NOW. THESE ARE VERY COMPLICATED ISSUES INVOLVING PUBLIC SAFETY, STAFFING SHORTAGES, STATE PRESSURE, IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, AND COMMUNITY TRUST. BUT THAT'S WHY EXACTLY TRANSPARENCY MATTERS. RECENTLY, THE DOWS POLICE ASSOCIATION PUBLICLY STATED [00:05:01] THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY OPERATING HUNDREDS OF OFFICERS SHORT, THAT THE OFFICERS NEED TO FOCUS ON 9 1 1 CALLS IN VIOLENT CRIME. AND THAT PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING SHOULD NOT BECOME A POLITICAL BARGAINING CHIP. WHETHER PEOPLE AGREE OR DISAGREE POLITICALLY, THOSE ARE SERIOUS CONCERNS. AND YET, MANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, OPERATIONAL CHANGES AND APPARENT GENERAL ORDER CHANGES, SEEM TO BE HAPPENING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITHOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC VOTE BY THE CITY COUNCIL. COMMUNITY MEMBERS ATTENDED THE, ATTENDED THE PUBLIC SAFETY SYMPOSIUM, HOPING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS DIRECTLY AS TO THESE CHANGES AND OPERATION, OPERATIONAL CHANGES THAT HAPPENED AND WHAT THEY MEAN FOR DALLAS RESIDENTS. BUT THE CHIEF LEFT BEFORE THE PUBLIC Q AND A IN THAT MOMENT CAPTURED EXACTLY WHY SO MANY PEOPLE FEEL UNEASY RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST ASKING WHAT IS THE POLICY? THEY ARE ASKING WHO IS MAKING THESE DECISIONS? WHAT CHANGED? WHAT PRESSURES, WHAT PRESSURES ARE INFLUENCE INFLUENCING THESE CHANGES AND WHY THE PUBLIC IS LEARNING ABOUT MAJOR PO POLICING SHIFTS AFTER THE FACT INSTEAD OF BEING INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION. BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF POLITICS, PUBLIC TRUST CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY. AND UNDER CHAPTER 37, THIS BOARD EXISTS TO PROMOTE TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO TONIGHT I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO DO THESE THREE THINGS. IF POSSIBLE. CAN YOU PLEASE REQUEST A PUBLIC FACING BRIEFING ON ANY RECENT OR PROPOSED GENERAL ORDER OR OPERATIONAL CHANGES RELATED TO THE NEW ORDERS AND STATE COORDINATION OR PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING PRESSURES? AND SECOND, PLEASE HOLD ANOTHER PUBLIC. THAT WAS A GREAT MEETING TO HAVE AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. BUT, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SESSION WHERE RESIDENTS CAN DIRECTLY ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE OPERATIONAL CHANGES AND THEIR IMPACT ON CONSTITUTIONAL POLICY AND COMMUNITY TRUST. AND THIRD, RECOMMEND STRONGER TRANSPARENCY PRACTICES FOR FUTURE MAJOR, FUTURE MAJOR OPERATIONAL POLICY CHANGES. SO DALLAS RESIDENTS ARE INFORMED BEFORE DECISIONS AFFECTING PUBLIC TRUSTS ARE IMPLEMENTED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. BECAUSE THIS ISSUE IS NOW BIGGER THAN POLITICS. IT IS ABOUT WHETHER DO RESIDENTS FEEL INFORMED, RESPECTED, AND INCLUDED WHEN MAJOR POLICY AND DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE. TRANSPARENCY BUILDS THAT TRUST, BUT SECRECY DESTROYS IT. THANK YOU. HEY, THANK YOU, ZAEL. HEY, ZAEL. UH, WOULD YOU MIND EMAILING US THAT, YOUR STATEMENT WITH THE THREE THINGS, JUST SO WE CAN, UH, BE CLEAR? I TRIED TO WRITE 'EM DOWN, BUT YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WRITE IT ALL DOWN. SO COULD YOU EMAIL THAT TO US OR DO YOU HAVE OUR EMAIL AND EVERYTHING? YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WE'LL BE IN TOUCH. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT WE HAVE NATHAN NELSON. THANK YOU MR. NELSON. I KNOW, UH, YOUR CASE. WE ARE GOING TO HEAR LATER IN THE MEETING. AND, UH, SO I ASK ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, MR. NELSON'S HERE, UH, TO SPEAK FOR HIS PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT WE, WE WILL HEAR, UM, HIS COMPLAINT LATER IN THE MEETING. AND AS A BOARD, WE WILL DETERMINE, UH, WHETHER, UH, WE WANT TO ASK THE OFFICE TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. SO, UH, THIS IS MR. NELSON. HE'S SPEAKING NOW, BUT REMEMBER THAT WE'LL BE HEARING HIS CASE A LITTLE BIT LATER TODAY. MR. NELSON, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. AND, UM, THE DRILL IS, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, JUST BEGIN SPEAKING AND WE'LL HAVE A TIMER AND WE JUST ASK YOU RESPECT THE THREE MINUTES AND DO MY BEST. UH, BUT THANK YOU. UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY? UH, I DON'T KNOW. IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? IS IT ON, UH, GREEN HERE? THAT OKAY? OKAY. I DIDN'T WANNA POP . ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS NATHAN NELSON. I'M SPEAKING TO THE BOARD FOR AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF HOW MY CHILDREN WERE TAKEN FROM ME AND WHETHER DALLAS POLICE LIEUTENANT, UH, JEANETTE MENDOZA MISUSED AUTHORITY IN A PRIVATE FAMILY MATTER. ON MARCH 20TH, 2025, I WAS DRIVING TO DALLAS FOR CANCER SCREENING TEST TO DETERMINE WHETHER I WOULD NEED TO CONTINUE CHEMOTHERAPY AND POSSIBLY RADIATION. I WAS NOT IN A GOOD PLACE PHYSICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY. WHILE I WAS DRIVING AND GOING THROUGH THE SCREENING, MY WIFE, SUSANNA, AND LIEUTENANT MENDOZA USED THAT TIME TO PACK UP MY WIFE AND CHILDREN'S BELONGINGS AND MOVE OUR CHILDREN TO LIEUTENANT MENDOZA'S HOME IN DALLAS WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE AND CONSENT. AND BY REMOVING THEM FROM THE ATTENDANCE AT THEIR SCHOOL. IN WILLS POINT, LATER THAT MORNING, AROUND 11:00 AM LIEUTENANT MENDOZA CONTACTED ME AND ASKED ME TO MEET HER AT HER POLICE STATION PARKING LOT. SHE CONFRONTED ME WHILE IN MY CAR AND TELLING ME, THIS IS ONLY A MARITAL BREAK IN REALITY. THEY HAD BEEN CONSULTING WITH AN ATTORNEY IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, REMOVING TOWARD DIVORCE, FILING, RESTRAINING ORDER IN SOLE CUSTODY, YET NO CHARGES WERE EVER FILED AGAINST ME. OFFICER TEXT MESSAGES THAT SHOW LIEUTENANT MENDOZA WAS DIRECTING SUZANNE AND MY WIFE ON WHAT STEPS TO TAKE. [00:10:01] USING HER TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE AS POLICE OFFICER TO SHAPE HOW THIS SITUATION WOULD APPEAR TO THE COURT AND TO AUTHORITY THAT IS NOT NEUTRAL FAMILY ADVICE. THAT IS SWORN OFFICER USING HER TRAINING AND RANK TO HELP BA BUILD A CASE AGAINST ME AND MY FAMILY. BEFORE MY COURT, BEFORE ANY COURT HAD REVIEWED THE FACTS, WHEN I ARRIVED AT THE POLICE STATION, SHE TOLD ME SHE HAD TAKEN SUZANNE AND THE CHILDREN TO HER, HER HOME, AND I COULD NOT SEE MY CHILDREN. I FELT I HAD NO REAL CHOICE BUT TO LEAVE AND TO GO NEARBY FAMILY MEMBER'S HOME. I WAS DEALING WITH A POLICE OFFICER AT OUR STATION IN A V VULNERABLE STATE, AND DID NOT KNOW HOW FAR THE AUTHORITY WOULD BE USED AGAINST ME. SEVERAL DAYS LATER, A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER WAS FILED, CLAIMING I WAS AGGRESSIVE AND INVOLVED IN SUBSTANCE ABUSE. BUT THAT TIARA DID NOT HOLD. IN DEPOSITION, MY WIFE ADMITTED THERE WAS NO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, ONLY MARITAL DISAGREEMENT. THOSE DISAGREEMENTS WERE NOT VIOLENT OR ABUSIVE. THEY WERE ABOUT HER TELLING HER FATHER THE HEAD OF HR THAT I WAS USING ILLEGAL MARIJUANA. EVEN THOUGH I WAS USING LEGAL CBD RECOMMENDED BY MY ONCOLOGY TEAM IN A LETTER, MY DRUG TEST SHOWED ONLY TRACE CANNABINOIDS NOT MARIJUANA. TEXAS LAW PROTECTS BOTH PARENTS EQUALLY AND GIVES EACH PARENT THE RIGHT TO ACCESS AND POSSESS THEIR CHILDREN UNLESS THERE'S CLEAR EVIDENCE-BASED FINDING OF DANGER. AFTER ALL THIS FALSE ALLEGATIONS, EMOTIONAL HARM, AND OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN LEGAL DEBT, THE FINAL OUTCOME IS 50 50 SHARED CUSTODY. UM, INTERNAL AFFAIRS DISMISSED THIS, FOUND NO POLICY VIOLATION BY RESPECTFULLY OF ADMIT THAT THE FINAL COURT RULING AND CUSTODY OUTCOME SHOWED LIEUTENANT MENDOZA SHOULD NOT HAVE ADVISED OR PARTICIPATED IN REMOVING MY CHILDREN FROM THE MARITAL HOME. WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE AND CONSENT, THAT DECISION SHOULD HAVE BEEN LEFT TO THE COURT, NOT BA, MADE BY SWORN OFFICER INVOLVED IN A FAMILY MATTER. AND MY JUDGMENT, IT WAS ACTED ON HER VOLITION, REMOVING MY CHILDREN WITHOUT A COURT ORDER AND WITHOUT ANY LAWFUL AUTHORITY TO DO SO. SHE AND SUSANNA HAD CONSPIRED TO TELL ME THIS WAS ONLY A BREAK. SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH DIVORCE AND OTHER PROCEEDINGS, BUT THE FINAL DECREE GOOD ENOUGH. GOOD. FINISH YOUR THOUGHTS. REMOVE ROOT MY KIDS. THANK YOU. HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. UM, YES. AND WE'LL, UH, WE HAVE THIS PARTICULAR CASE ON THE, OUR AGENDA A LITTLE BIT LATER, AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT AS A BOARD. DO YOU NEED THIS STATEMENT? UM, IF, DO YOU NEED THIS STATEMENT? I THINK WE'RE GOOD RIGHT NOW. MAYBE AT THE END WE COULD, IF, IF WE NEED IT, WE'LL, WE'LL ASK FOR IT, BUT, SO I NEED TO STAY HERE, IS THAT CORRECT? IF YOU WANT TO, IT'S YOUR CHOICE. YEAH. UH, BECAUSE IT'S BEING DISCUSSED LATER. OR ANOTHER DATE. I'M SORRY. NO, TODAY. TODAY, YEAH. I THINK IT'S AGENDA ITEM. YEAH. IT'S EIGHT, UM, EIGHT. TWO TWO. SO YEAH, IT'LL BE PROBABLY, HOPEFULLY NOT TOO LONG. OKAY. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO SIT IN THE, UH, CHAIRS IF YOU'D LIKE, OR, UH, WE'RE ALSO LINE, BUT YEAH, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING YOUR CASE HERE IN A FEW. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 14TH, 2026 CPOB REGULAR MEETING MINUTES. SO IF I COULD ASK THE BOARD TO PLEASE REVIEW THE APRIL 14 MINUTES INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKETS. AND IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE MINUTES? MR. CHAIR ON PAGE SEVEN, MY NAME IS SPELLED INCORRECTLY. IT SAYS DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. SECOND. AND IT'S L-O-R-E-N. THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE I SAW IT MISSPELLED. I WOULDN'T HAVE CAUGHT THAT. ALRIGHT, I SEE IT. WE'LL MAKE SURE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. THANK YOU DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH WITH THIS, UH, CHANGE IN MIND. UH, DO I HAVE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, UH, WITH THIS AMENDMENT IN MY, I SO MOVE. JENNY KING. WE HAD A MOTION BY JENNY KING. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. JULIA SIMON, DISTRICT 13. MS. SIMON HAS SECONDED THIS MOTION. ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO A VOTE? SEE, THERE'S NONE. UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THESE MINUTES. SAY AYE. A AYE. ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY. THE APPROVAL, THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR APRIL 14TH WITH THE AMENDED, UH, CORRECTION THAT DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH MENTIONED TO US. OKAY. UH, WE HAVE AT, AT THIS POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION, AN UPDATE AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE SYMPOSIUM HELD BY THE OCPO THIS PAST SATURDAY ON MAY 9TH, 2026. SO, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE POLICY ANALYST, CIRO BASUI, AND ALSO, UH, OUTREACH SPECIALIST OUT IN MY PEREZ. AND, UH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR BY HOW THAT PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE SYMPOSIUM WENT. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. OH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ONE SECOND. IS THERE A WAY TO TURN THAT VOLUME UP? BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF QUIET. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS THE CONTROL TO TURN THAT VOLUME UP. [00:15:01] I'LL JUST SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MY NAME IS SIERRA OBASI. I'M THE POLICY ANALYSTS FOR THE OFFICE. UM, AND TO MY RIGHT IS SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST ALMA PEREZ. UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE HOSTED OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE SYMPOSIUM ON SATURDAY MAY 9TH. AND OVERALL, WE HAD A PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT. WE CREATED THIS FORUM FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO EDUCATE THEM ON AND INFORM THEM ON A LOT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES AND SYSTEMS THAT THE CITY PROVIDES. WE ALSO ADDRESSED A LOT OF THE CONCERNS SURROUNDING RESPONSE TIMES. AND OVERALL THE TURNOUT WAS, WE HAD 97 REGISTERED AND A LITTLE BIT OVER 60 ATTEND. SO THAT WAS A PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT. UM, WE DID CREATE A SURVEY FOR COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, AND WE SENT THAT OUT VIA EMAIL TO THOSE THAT REGISTERED AND ATTENDED, AND WE ALSO INCLUDED THE PRESENTATION SLIDE. SO WE'RE WAITING ON THAT INFORMATION, AND ONCE WE GATHER THAT INFORMATION, WE'LL SEND THAT OUT TO BOARD MEMBERS. BUT OVERALL, WE HAD AN OVERWHELMING POSITIVE FEEDBACK REGARDING THE EVENT. AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS REALIZE THAT THIS IS A NECESSITY, AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION LIKE THIS AND INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY IS ALWAYS CHANGING. SO, UH, BUT BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO ALMA, I DO WANT TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE, UM, AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT CAME OUT. JULIA AND MR. PEGRAM AND JUDGE LANDER, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE TIME TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT AND ALSO ADD EXTRA HANDS ON DECK. UM, WE WANNA THANK THE SOUTHWEST NPOS, THE JUBILEE STOREFRONT, NPO OFFICERS. I BELIEVE THEY'RE NPOS, RIGHT? UM, AND THE BEAR STREET OFFICERS, UH, FOR THEIR HANDS ON DECK IN HELPING US PUSH OUT THE EVENT. AND, UH, I WANNA THANK THE DIRECTOR AND STAFF, BUT I, I REALLY WANTED TO SPOTLIGHT MISS ALMA PEREZ BECAUSE SHE DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB AT ASSISTING AND PUSHED US OUT SO THAT THE COMMUNITY KNEW ABOUT OUR EVENT. AND I TRULY BELIEVE THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A SUCCESS WITHOUT HER HELP. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, . THANK YOU FOR THAT. SIERRA . UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. THE PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE SYMPOSIUM BROUGHT TOGETHER SEVERAL CITY DEPARTMENTS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERS WHO PARTICIPATED AS TABLING VENDORS AND PROVIDED VALUABLE INFORMATION AND RESOURCES TO ATTENDEES. WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK THE FOLLOWING PARTNERS FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION. SO OUR CPOB UH, MEMBERS, UH, 3 1 1, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE 9 1 1. HIRING AND OUTREACH. DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT RECRUITING, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE OUTREACH. UM, WE ALSO HAD A NONPROFIT CHURCH, WORLD SERVICES, DALLAS COUNTY HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, CHILD SEAT SAFETY PROGRAM, SANITATION SERVICES, THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, DALLAS COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION, AND DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES. THE SYMPOSIUM ALLOWED RESIDENTS TO ENGAGE DIRECTLY WITH PUBLIC SAFETY PROFESSIONALS, ASKED QUESTIONS, LEARN ABOUT AVAILABLE SERVICES AND RESOURCES, AND BETTER UNDERSTAND THE OPERATIONS THAT SUPPORT EMERGENCY RESPONSE EFFORTS ACROSS DALLAS. OVERALL, THE EVENT REFLECTED O CPO'S CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, TRANSPARENCY, EDUCATION, AND STRENGTHENING RELATIONSHIPS WITH BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERS. THIS CONCLUDES MY BRIEFING, AND, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK SIERRA FOR HER. UM, THIS WAS KIND OF HER IDEA, AND SO JUST BEING ABLE TO, UM, WORK ON THIS TOGETHER WITH HER WAS, UM, A GREAT EXPERIENCE. THANK YOU, SARAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS REGARDING THIS AGENDA ITEM? UM, YEAH, I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU GUYS, UM, JUST, UM, KUDOS FOR VERY WELL ORGANIZED, UM, VERY INFORMATIVE, UM, REALLY GREAT FIRST EVENT. I'M, I'M REALLY PROUD OF YOU. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT. UM, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT EVENT. I WAS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND. I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL DO THAT MORE OFTEN, MAYBE ON A QUARTERLY OR A MONTHLY BASIS, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT AND FOLKS ASKED A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND THAT WAS GOOD TO SEE. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT. YES. SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING COORDINATED AND PUT THAT TOGETHER AND A VERY INTERESTING PLACE, BY THE WAY, . THANK YOU. DISTRICT 60, DERRICK PEGRAM. CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT TIME. THAT WAS EXCELLENT. [00:20:01] THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. KEEN, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT AS WELL? AND I KNOW I COULDN'T MAKE IT, SO I WAS REALLY SAD ABOUT THAT. I'M THRILLED TO KNOW IT WAS SUCCESSFUL. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH COMMITTEE WORKING WITH Y'ALL NEXT YEAR WELL IN ADVANCE, TO SEE WHAT OTHER GROUPS THAT WE CAN BRING TOGETHER AND HOW WE CAN, UH, PROMOTE THIS OUT FURTHER TO THE COMMUNITY. BECAUSE I'M AMAZED AT ALL THE RESOURCES THE CITY HAS AND THAT CAME OUT FOR THIS. I THINK IT'S REALLY QUITE A PUBLIC SERVICE. SO THANK YOU BOTH FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN THROWING THIS EVENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS INCREDIBLE SUCCESS. AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, JUDGE LAND SAYS EVERY MONTH, ONCE A MONTH, UH, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THAT? HOPEFULLY IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE CAN DO YEARLY YEARLY. SO HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PLAN FOR. QUARTERLY, QUARTERLY, QUARTERLY. YEAH. WE CAN'T COMMIT TO THAT GIVEN THE CURRENT BUDGET CRISIS. OKAY. OF COURSE YOU CAN'T, BUT I'M GONNA ASK FOR IT ANYWAY, , THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. AND NOW WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM SIX, UH, WHICH IS THE OVERVIEW OF THE ROLL CALL PRESENTATION. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEXT SPEAKER, LIEUTENANT BLANCHARD, FOR A BRIEFING ON A RECENT POLICY UPDATE ON DPDS ADMINISTRATIVE SCHEDULING SYSTEM ROLL CALL, WHICH BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS MAY USE TO REQUEST OFF-DUTY UNIFORMED POLICE OFFICERS FOR SECURITY SERVICES. AND I REMEMBER, UH, JUST TO, UM, UH, RECALL FOR THE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A CRITICAL INCIDENT WHERE, UH, THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL IMPERSONATING, UM, A, A A REAL OFFICER AND USING THIS APP. AND SO, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE POLICY AND WANTED, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY HERE AND LEARN WHAT THOSE ARE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, LIEUTENANT. I'D LOVE TO HEAR, UH, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. THE FLOOR'S YOURS. ALRIGHT. UH, GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME'S UH, JONATHAN BLANCHARD, AND I'M CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE PERSONNEL SYSTEMS UNIT. AMONG MY RESPONSIBILITIES IS THE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT TEAM. I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE DALLAS POLICE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT AND THE ROLL CALL SOFTWARE THAT WE DO USE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IN THIS PRESENTATION, I'LL GIVE A WELL PREVIOUS SLIDE I'LL GIVE IN THIS PRESENTATION. I'LL GIVE A, UH, BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE ROLL CALL SOFTWARE AND DISCUSS THE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT TEAM AND THE PROCESSES WE USE TO SCHEDULE JOBS. REVIEW THE REQUIREMENTS TO BE A SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT COORDINATOR AND DISCUSS RECENT CONFIGURATION CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE. YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE TERM ROLL CALL PRIOR TO THIS PRESENTATION. ROLL CALL IS A SOFTWARE SCHEDULING SOLUTION USED BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE UNITED STATES TO SCHEDULE AND DOCUMENT SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT AND SPECIAL EVENTS. THE EXTENSIVE DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED HELPS US ENSURE PROPER COMPLIANCE. IT ALSO HAS OTHER CAPABILITIES. FOR EXAMPLE, BUSINESSES MAY USE IT TO COMMUNICATE WITH SCHEDULED OFFICERS OR TO PROCESS SECURE PAYMENTS. UM, WITH US TODAY, I HAVE JASON COBB, WHO IS ROLL CALL REGIONAL DIRECTOR, AND, UH, ALSO HAVE STEVE TOTH. THEY'RE LAW ENFORCEMENT LIAISON. UH, THEY'VE BOTH BEEN INCREDIBLY HELPFUL WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ROLL CALL HERE IN DALLAS, UTILIZING THE ROLL CALL SOFTWARE. THE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT TEAM FUNCTIONS AS THE PRIMARY COORDINATOR OF OFF-DUTY JOB REQUESTS. WE MAKE SURE OUR EMPLOYEES FOLLOW POLICY THROUGH MONITORING, AUDITING, AND WE ARE THE OFFICIAL CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS WHEN IT COMES TO DATA RELATED TO SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT. AND THEN TO HELP MAINTAIN A CONSISTENT, UH, DELIVERY OF SERVICE. ALL SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT JOBS FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS. FIRST, THE CLIENT, A BUSINESS OR INDIVIDUAL WANTING TO HIRE A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER WILL CONTACT THE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT TEAM OR AN AUTHOR AUTHORIZED COORDINATOR. AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT AUTHORIZED COORDINATORS HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. SECOND, THE JOB WILL BE REVIEWED TO MAKE SURE IT FOLLOWS THREE THINGS. ONE, OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS SUCH AS OUR GENERAL ORDERS OR ANY STATE LAWS REGARDING SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT OF OFFICERS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH ANY PENDING LITIGATION BETWEEN THE CITY OR THE STATE. AND IT FOLLOWS CITY SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING RULES. THIRD, THE JOB IS POSTED EITHER TO A SPECIFIC GROUP OF OFFICERS IF THE CLIENT REQUESTS IT OR DEPARTMENT-WIDE TO ANY OFFICERS THAT ARE, UM, ABLE TO WORK SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT HAVE BEEN APPROVED TO DO SO. AND THEN FINALLY, AFTER THE JOB IS WORKED, THE CLIENT IS GIVEN THE OPTION TO EITHER PAY THE OFFICER DIRECTLY OR THROUGH THE SECURE ROLL CALL PLATFORM. I BRIEFLY MENTIONED, UH, AUTHORIZED COORDINATOR. UH, THAT DESIGNATION IS [00:25:01] GIVEN TO THOSE WHO ARE ALLOWED TO COORDINATE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT IN OUR DEPARTMENT. TO BE AN AUTHORIZED COORDINATOR, YOU MUST EITHER BE ONE, A MEMBER OF THE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT TEAM SUCH AS MYSELF OR AN OFFICER TRAINED AND AUTHORIZED BY THE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT TEAM. SOME EXAMPLES OF AUTHOR OFFICERS TRAINED AND AUTHORIZED INCLUDE OFFICERS WHO ARE PART OF THE TACTICAL AND SPECIAL OPERATIONS, SPECIAL EVENTS TEAM OR OFFICERS THAT MAY COORDINATE EXPANDED NEIGHBORHOOD EMPLOYMENT. THERE WAS A RECENT CHANGE THAT WE MADE, UH, TO MAKE THE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT PLATFORM MORE SECURE. NOW, ONLY THE DALLAS POLICE SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT TEAM OR DPD AUTHORIZED COORDINATORS ARE PERMITTED TO POST SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT FOR DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS. WHEREAS BEFORE THIS RECENT CHANGE, LOCAL AGENCIES AND SECURITIES COMPANIES COULD, IF THEY POSSESSED A ROLL CALL ACCOUNT REQUEST OFFICERS DIRECTLY. NOW ALL JOBS ARE MORE THOROUGHLY REVIEWED FOR PROPER COMPLIANCE BEFORE POSTING. AND THIS HELPS MAKES OUR PROCESS MORE SECURE AND COMPLIANT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT, UH, THIS SUMMARY OF SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT. AND WITH THAT I'M HELP HAPPY TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, LIEUTENANT. ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? YES, MS. KING. JOHN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. SO IF A NEIGHBORHOOD EMPLOYS OFFICERS FOR OFF-DUTY PATROLS, DO THEY USE ROLL CALL? ROLL CALL? YES. YES, THEY DO. SO THEY'VE ALL RECEIVED INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO USE THE SYSTEM NOW THAT IT'S HAD SOME CHANGES TO HOW YOU APPROVE THAT TIME. I HAVEN'T ENCOUNTERED A NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE A COORDINATOR WITH DALLAS. SO THEY, MOST OF THEM WERE NOT AFFECTED IN ANY WAY. THERE WERE A FEW SECURITY COMPANIES THAT ASKED FOR OFFICERS DIRECTLY AND A FEW OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ASKED FOR OFFICERS. BUT WE'VE WORKED WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE TO MAKE SURE WE NOW HAVE A DALLAS POLICE COORDINATOR OR MY TEAM THAT WILL COORDINATE THE JOB FOR THEM. SO, SO LIKE MY NEIGHBORHOOD AL ALREADY PROBABLY HAS SOMEONE AT YOUR OFFICE THAT'S APPROVED THAT IS THE APPROVER BASICALLY. YES, MA'AM. AND USUALLY THOSE IF FOR EXPANDED NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL, USUALLY THOSE OFFICERS ARE ALSO WORKING THE JOB TOO. SO THEY'LL WORK THE JOB, THEY'LL HELP COORDINATE THE JOB, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE MAIN LIAISON BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE EXPANDED NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL PROGRAM. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR EXTRA PATROLS BY THE WAY. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER. YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD REGARDING THIS AGENDA ITEM? I JUST HAVE A FEW, UH, LIEUTENANT WHO, UH, GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF CLIENTS THAT THAT USE THAT ROLL CALL APP AND REQUEST. UH, AND OF COURSE THEY DON'T NEED NAMES OF BUSINESSES, BUT THE TYPES OF ENTITIES THAT USE THIS, THIS APP. SO THERE ARE LIKE, UH, OTHER AGENCIES IN THE CITY, IN THE COUNTY OR THE STATE THAT MAY USE THE APP AS AN AGENCY. THERE MAY BE A COMPANY THAT USES THE APP AS LIKE A SECURITY COMPANY THAT RUNS AND USES THE APP AND HIRES, UH, STATE OF TEXAS PEACE OFFICERS. SO THEY MAY HIRE DALLAS, THEY MAY HIRE, UH, OTHER ISD POLICE IN THE AREA TO WORK. MAYBE IT'S A GROCERY STORE, RIGHT? SO THE SECURITY COMPANY WILL ACT AS LIAISON BETWEEN THE GROCERY STORE AND GET THEM OFFICERS TO HIRE. ALSO, WE USE THE APP, UH, AND WE COORDINATE WITH BANKS. WE COORDINATE WITH EXPANDED NEIGHBORHOOD PATROL, UH, SOMEBODY WHO HAS, WHO'S GONNA HAVE A BLOCK PARTY, RIGHT? WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE SPECIAL EVENT, HELP THEM DO THAT, HELP THEM GET THE PERMIT, AND THEN ALLOW THEM TO HIRE OFFICERS ON OUR PLATFORM. SO IT'S REALLY EVERYONE THAT HIRES A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER FOR SECONDARY EMPLOYMENT USES IT IN SOME WAY, MAYBE IN, MAYBE DIRECTLY, MAYBE INDIRECTLY. RIGHT. GOT IT. AND SO THE, AND THE, THE BIG CHANGE THAT WAS MADE, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE AND AND MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, WAS THAT BEFORE THERE WAS LESS REGULATION ON THE JOBS THAT WERE POSTED AND, UH, BUT NOW EVERY JOB GOES THROUGH A RIGOROUS PROCESS OF VETTING, MAKING SURE THAT IT'S A, IT'S A LEGIT JOB. MAKING SURE THE ORGANIZATION REQUESTING IT IS, UH, BEEN, BEEN VETTED ITSELF. IS IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? YES. BEFORE WE WOULD VET A SPECIFIC LOCATION. SO IF A BUSINESS WANTED TO HIRE OFFICERS THAT AT A SPECIFIC LOCATION, WE'D CHECK THE BUSINESS, MAKE SURE IT MEETS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AT THAT LOCATION. NOW WE CHECK THE JOB ITSELF, NOT ONLY JUST THE, THE LOCATION, BUT ALSO THE EVENT, LIKE THE EVENT ITSELF, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING OFFICERS TO DO AND ALL THOSE THINGS. SO YES, EACH INDIVIDUAL JOB IS NOW MORE SCRUTINIZED, MUCH CLOSER THAN IT USED TO BE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? WELL, THANK YOU LIEUTENANT, UH, FOR THAT REPORT, UH, FOR THE EXPLANATION OF THE CHANGES IN THE POLICY. I APPRECIATE IT GIVES US A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF, UH, WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE POLICY AND HELPS HELPFUL FOR US. AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, WE'LL MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM SEVEN. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME, UM, MAJOR GABRIELA [00:30:01] CON, UH, FROM THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, UH, AND HE COULD PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION ACTIVITIES AND OFFER ANY PERTINENT UPDATES. AND I DO WANNA THANK, UH, HIS TEAM FOR BEING HERE. YOU BROUGHT YOUR WHOLE, THE WHOLE CREW, UH, THE WHOLE FAMILY'S HERE, SO, UH, THANK YOU. I GUESS IT'S A SIGN OF GOOD LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW, BUT WE APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR TIME HERE. ANYONE WANNA HEAR FROM YOU? THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. CHAIR BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME FOR ALLOWING ME AND, AND MY COWORKERS HERE TO BE HERE. AND TO KIND OF BRIEF YOU OUT, UPDATES FROM THE DEPARTMENT. UM, FIRST IS, UH, AS I MENTIONED LAST MONTH WE WERE TRANSITIONING TO A NEW TASER TASER 10 FROM TASER SEVEN TO TASER 10. SO AS OF YESTERDAY, MAY 11TH, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 456 OFFICERS THAT HAVE SO FAR TRANSITIONED TO THIS NEW TASER. UM, SECONDLY, I REALLY WANT TO ECHO, UH, WHAT MS. SIERRA MENTIONED ABOUT THE SYMPOSIUM THAT, UH, PASSED ON SATURDAY. IT WAS AN AMAZING, SUCCESSFUL EVENT. IT WAS AMAZING. IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT. IT WAS EXTREMELY POSITIVE TO SEE THE COMMUNITY, UH, ENGAGEMENT FROM O-C-P-O-D-P-D 3 1 1 OEM AND ESPECIALLY THE COMMUNITY. IT WAS AMAZING. O-O-C-P-O AND STAFF DID AN AMAZING JOB PLANNING AND COORDINATING. THAT WAS A HUGE UNDERTAKING. AND SO, UH, I REALLY COMMEND THEIR WORK IN THIS. UM, LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, JUST LIKE AS STATED BEFORE, OUR NPOS THAT WERE AT THIS EVENT AS WELL FROM SOUTHWEST, SOUTHEAST JUBILEE STOREFRONT AND ALL THE OFFICERS AND INCLUDING OTHER STAFF FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS BEING THERE MAKING THIS ACTUALLY A SUCCESSFUL EVENT. SO CONGRATULATIONS AND GREAT JOB. UH, ANO ANOTHER UPDATE IS WE'RE CURRENTLY SCHEDULING, WHICH I THINK IS A WIN. WE'RE CURRENTLY SCHEDULING OUR FIRST MEDIATION BETWEEN AN OFFICER AND A COMPLAINANT. UM, UH, I KNOW WE BRIEFED THE BOARD LAST MONTH THAT WE ACTUALLY MET WITH THE MEDIATOR. THE OFFICE REACHED OUT TO ME LAST WEEK SOMETIME, AND WE MADE IT HAPPEN. AND SO BOTH THE OFFICER AND THE COMPLAINANT HAVE AGREED TO GO THROUGH MEDIATION AND WE'RE WORKING ON COMPLETING THOSE STEPS SO THAT THE MEDIATION IS COMPLETE AND SUCCESSFUL. UM, I ALSO WANT TO ECHO THAT THEY HAVE WORKED. THE OCPO HAS WORKED HARD AND DILIGENTLY TO HAVE THIS, UH, THIS PLATFORM, THIS MEDIATION PLATFORM IN PLACE. AND THEY'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB. I HAVE ALSO MODIFIED, AS I MENTIONED LAST MONTH, THE MONTHLY EXTERNAL COMPLAINT REPORTS IN WHICH IED AND OCPO SHARE WITH EACH OTHER. UH, ONE THING THAT I DID ADDITIONALLY SINCE THEN, UM, IS ADD, UM, UH, A SECTION, WELL, THE SECTION WAS ALREADY THERE UNDER REVIEW, AND I WANTED TO ADD A RUNNING TOTAL NUMBER FOR THE MONTH ITSELF. SO EVERY CATEGORY, I DID THAT PRIOR, AND YOU SAW THAT, UH, FOR THE YEAR. SO THE UNDER REVIEW, I DID THAT AS WELL. HAVE A RUNNING CATEGORY FOR THE MONTH, A RUNNING TOTAL FOR THE MONTH, EXCUSE ME, AND THE PERCENTAGE VERSUS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS FOR THAT MONTH SO THAT I COULD SEE WHAT IS STILL PENDING FOR UNDER REVIEW. THAT ALSO INCLUDED THAT I ADDED A TOTAL NUMBER FOR THE YEAR AND THE TOTAL PERCENTAGES VERSUS THE TOTAL COMPLAINTS THAT WERE RECEIVED FOR THE YEAR, SO THAT I CAN SEE ANY OF THOSE DISCREPANCIES AND THAT IT HOLDS ME ACCOUNTABLE TO FOLLOW BACK UP TO SEE WHERE THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE. UM, WE, I HAVE ALSO INCLUDED A YEAR TO DATE REPORT THAT I SHARE NOW WITH THE OFFICE OF EXTERNAL COMPLAINTS RECEIVED AS WELL. AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH COMMANDERS AT ALL THE DIVISIONS TO ENSURE FLYERS ARE BOTH POSTED FOR COMPLAINTS AND FOR COMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD. AND THEN LASTLY, UM, WE CAN BRIEF THIS OUT NEXT MONTH, BUT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THIS BODY, UH, THAT INTERNAL AFFAIRS HAS ALMOST COMPLETED BUILDING A NEW TEAM, UH, CALLED THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS REVIEW. UH, THIS TEAM WILL INVESTIGATE, UH, MINOR POLICY VIOLATIONS, AND THEY'RE CURRENTLY KNOWN AS DIVISION REFERRALS. DIVISION REFERRALS ARE CURRENTLY SENT WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY, THAT IF WE DEEM IT TO BE A MINOR POLICY VIOLATION, WE SEND THOSE OUT FOR THE DIVISION TO INVESTIGATE AND RENDER ANY DISCIPLINE IF NECESSARY. UH, AS OF LATE, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ALMOST DONE BUILDING THE TEAM. WE WILL TAKE THAT, UH, RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY'RE CALLED THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS REVIEW TEAM. AND SO, UH, WE WILL INVESTIGATE THOSE INVESTIGATIONS, SEND THE FINDINGS TO THE DIVISION, AND THEN THEY WILL CONCUR WITH THE INVESTIGATION OR NOT CONCUR AND THEN DI DISCIPLINE IF NECESSARY. UM, AGAIN, THIS IS FOCUSING ONLY INVESTIGATING LOWER LEVEL POLICY VIOLATIONS THAT IF SUSTAINED WOULD RESULT IN SUMMARY DISCIPLINE. IT'S GONNA BE COMPRISED OF ONE LIEUTENANT AND FOUR SERGEANTS, AND CURRENTLY THE SERGEANTS HAVE BEEN SELECTED AND, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THEM WILL START IN MID-MAY. AND WE HAVE ONE STARTING AT THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. AND SO, UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT TEAM IN PLACE AND, AND MOVING THAT ALONG AS, UH, FOR MY PORTION I AM COMPLETED AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS FOR FOLLOW UP. [00:35:01] THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAJOR FOR THAT UPDATE. UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ON ANYTHING, UH, THE MAJOR BRIEFED US ON TODAY, MS. KING? YES. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. UH, SO YOU HAVE 456 OFFICERS TRAINED TO USE THE NEW TASER. HOW MANY MORE STILL NEED TO BE TRAINED? I WOULD SAY, UM, PROBABLY ABOUT 70% LEFT OF THE DEPARTMENT. I MEAN, IT'S FAIRLY NEW. OKAY. AND SO, UM, IT REQUIRES AN ONLINE TRAINING TO BEGIN WITH FIRST, AND THEN YOU SCHEDULE A DATE TO GO TO THE IN-SERVICE TO GET THAT TRANSITION DONE. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW THAT YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT 70%, I THINK 70 TO 80. OKAY. SO IT'S, IT'S STARTING, YOU'RE ROLLING THAT OUT, IT SOUNDS LIKE. YES, MA'AM. UM, AND THEN THE NEW, UM, PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS REVIEW TEAM SOUNDS GOOD. AND I GUESS THAT WILL HELP YOU MAKE SURE THAT THOSE COMMANDERS RECEIVE INFORMATION QUICKER OR MORE DIRECTLY FROM YOU. HOW IS THAT, UM, HELPING YOU WITH IN YOUR ROLE? UH, SO I THINK IT HELPS THE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY REALLY. I THINK IT STREAMLINES THE PROCESS MORE THAN ANYTHING. UM, YES, I THINK BY HAVING DEDICATED STAFF INVESTIGATING THESE MINOR POLICY VIOLATIONS WILL DEFINITELY MORE THAN LIKELY EXPEDITE THE PROCESS, HAVE THOSE CASES ADJUDICATED BOTH FOR THE COMPLAINANT AND FOR THE OFFICER. UM, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, UH, I FORGOT WHAT THE MATH IS, BUT IF YOU TAKE ABOUT TWO TO 300 DIVISION REFERRALS A YEAR AND YOU SPLIT THAT OUT BETWEEN JUST PATROL DIVISIONS, IT'S EIGHT PATROL DIVISIONS, DIVIDE THAT BY THREE WATCHES, SERGEANTS ON THE WATCHES. YOU MAY HAVE MAYBE ONE SERGEANT, YOU KNOW, UH, A A SINGLE SERGEANT MAY SEE A DIVISION REFERRAL A YEAR, AND SO THE PRACTICE IS NOT THERE. RIGHT. SO, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE FIELD WITH PERSONNEL, AND WE WANT OUR SERGEANTS OUT IN THE FIELD, RIGHT? WE, WE WANT THEM SUPERVISING THEIR TROOPS. AND SO I DEFINITELY THINK THIS WILL EXPEDITE AND STREAMLINE THE PROCESS. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I GUESS, UM, WE REMIND US ALL THE DIFFERENCE OF THIS NEW TASER. UH, WHAT, WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE TO, TO SHIFT TO THIS TASER AND, AND, UM, THE DECISION? WELL, IT'S A, THERE'S A LOT MORE, UH, UPDATES TO THE TASER TEN ONE, OBVIOUSLY, IT OFFERS MORE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES TO GET A CONNECTION, RIGHT? AND SO THE TASER SEVEN OFFERS TWO DIFFERENT SHOTS, RIGHT? WITH TWO DIFFERENT PRONGS FOR EACH SHOT. SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF FOUR PRONGS, RIGHT? AND SO THIS OFFERS 10 SINGLE DEPLOYMENTS. AND SO, UH, IT JUST TAKES TWO FOR A CONNECTION AND A CYCLE. AND SO IT'LL TAKE THE ONLY TWO, UH, TO GET THAT CYCLE. UH, THE BARB IS, UH, A LITTLE LONGER SO IT CAN ATTACH THE CLOTHING ACCURACY IS, IS INCREASED IN THIS TASER. UM, AND THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT. BUT IT REALLY IS ABOUT THE ACCURACY, THE DISTANCE, IT ALLOWS FOR FURTHER DISTANCE CONNECTION AND, AND JUST MORE, MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. AND, UH, AND YOU MENTIONED TOO THAT THE, THE POTENTIAL THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO MAYBE SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARD REVIEW BOARD, UM, AT A MEETING THAT WE HAVE. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT GROUP AGAIN? THE, THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS REVIEW TEAM. TEAM. OKAY. THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARD REVIEW TEAM. UM, THAT'D BE A POSSIBILITY TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT ONCE IT'S ESTABLISHED. AND, AND, UH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR LIKE ALONG THE LINES OF JEANNIE KING, UM, HOW, HOW IT SOUNDS LIKE A IDEA AND HOW IT COULD REALLY HELP STREAMLINE AND, AND HELP PUBLIC SAFETY AND, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE WHY BEHIND IT ALL AND, AND, UH, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? WHENEVER IT'S UP AND RUNNING, SIR, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION READY? IT'S ALREADY READY. OKAY. ASKING YOU SHALL RECEIVE. I LIKE IT. YES, SIR. I LIKE IT. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY, SIR. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY ONLINE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY. I DO HAVE A ONE BRIEF QUESTION. OH, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, THE, UH, PROFESSIONAL REVIEW TEAM. HOW SOON IS IT GOING TO GO? I, SO WE, I'M SORRY. SO WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE ALREADY SELECTED OUR SERGEANTS TWO, UH, THREE OF THEM WILL START MID THIS MONTH ON THE 20TH, I BELIEVE. AND THEN THE, THE THIRD, THE LAST ONE IS GONNA START THE BEGINNING OF JUNE. AND SO ONCE WE GET THEM, WE'LL ONBOARD THEM, TRAIN THEM, GIVE 'EM THE PROPER TRAINING, AND THEN, UM, WE, WE'LL, WE WILL START PRETTY ONCE WE GET THEM TRAINED. I MEAN, WE'LL GET THEM GOING. ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. GOOD. GOOD. MM-HMM . OKAY. MAJOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. UM, WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND ALSO YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS O-P-O-C-P-O STAFF REPORTS. AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH ITEM A. AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME AND TURN THIS TIME OVER TO THE OCPO DIRECTOR HERSELF, MS. [00:40:01] ANDRE, WHO WILL SHARE HER INSIGHTS ON BOARD AND STAFF ACTIVITIES, HIGHLIGHTING THE PROGRESS MADE SINCE THE APRIL 14TH MEETING, INCLUDING UPDATES ON STAFFING, INTERNAL OPERATIONS, AND UPCOMING EVENTS. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HER REPORT. THE FLOOR IS YOURS, DIRECTOR. THANK YOU. SO GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS REPORT. MY REMARKS TONIGHT WILL FOCUS ON THREE KEY AREAS, OUR PHYSICAL CHALLENGES, UM, OPERATIONAL ADJUST ADJUSTMENTS, AND OUR PROGRESS IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OVERSIGHT AND UPCOMING INITIATIVE. REQUIRING YOUR SUPPORT. OCPO REMAINS COMMITTED TO, UM, POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY, COMMUNITY TRUST, AND TRANSPARENCY AND RESPONSE TO THE CITY'S SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL CHALLENGES THIS FISCAL YEAR. WE'RE PROACTIVELY SEEKING EFFICIENCIES AS WE DEVELOP THE FY 27 AND 28 OPERATIONAL BUDGET. IN LINE WITH THE CITYWIDE MEASURES ANNOUNCED BY THE CITY MANAGER, WE'RE MAINTAINING A HIRING FREEZE FOR THE NON-UNIFORM POSITION, INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY ADVISOR VACANCIES. ALL NON-ESSENTIAL SUSPENDING AND TRAVEL ARE SUSPENDED, AND AS A RESULT, MEETING RELATED MAILS FOR C-C-P-O-B WILL BE DISCONTINUED. UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IMPACT. UM, DESPITE THE FISCAL CONSTRAINTS, OUR OUTREACH REMAINS ROBUST. WE HAVE HOSTED OR ATTENDED 51 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS THIS FISCAL YEAR 38 IN UNDERSERVED AREAS, UM, ALREADY SURPASSING OUR ANNUAL TARGET. UM, RECENT HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDES THE STAFF PARTICIPATION IN DISTRICT SIX, PUBLIC SAFETY ACADEMY, UM, THE POLICE, UM, MEMORIAL CEREMONY AND SUCCESSFUL, UM, MAY 19TH, MAY 9TH, PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE SYMPOSIUM. THE FIRST OF ITS KIND UNDER MY LEADERSHIP. I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY THANKS TO ALL THE STAFF BOARD MEMBERS, COMMUNITY PARTNERS, STATE AFFAIR OF TEXAS 3 1 1, THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE, DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND ALL OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE TABLED AT THE EVENT ALSO MADE IT POSSIBLE. UM, I'M ALSO ACTIVELY, UM, INVOLVED IN THE PLAN AND FOR THE 2026 NACO ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY IN NOVEMBER. AS FAR AS COMPLAINTS RECEIVED, WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVEN, UM, 750 EXTERNAL COMPLAINTS, 347 ACCOMMODATIONS RECEIVED YEAR TO DATE. NOTABLY, UM, OUR BOARD NOW RECEIVE MORE COMPREHENSIVE MONTHLY REPORTS FROM THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING REPORTS ON ARREST RESPONSE, UM, CRITICAL INCIDENT, AND ALSO COMPLAINT OUTCOMES. TODAY, SINCE I STARTED IN 2024 AND SEPTEMBER, 2024, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SCHEDULING OUR FIRST MEDIATION SESSIONS BETWEEN AN OFFICER AND COMPLAINANT TO RESOLVE LOW LEVEL CONFLICTS AND ARE EXPLORING WAYS TO RAISE COMMUNITY AWARENESS OF THIS PROGRAM. TO ENHANCE OCPO AND CPOB VISIBILITY, WE'RE COLLABORATING WITH 3 1 1 TO PRODUCE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. THE BOARD'S LEADERSHIP SUPPORT IS REQUESTED FOR THE ENGLISH VERSION AND SPANISH VERSION TRANSLATION OF THESE VIDEOS FOR THE BOARD. UM, I HAVE RECENTLY SHARED THE REVISED GENERAL ORDER AND TRAINING BULLETIN WITH YOU, UM, WHICH CLARIFY PROCEDURES FOR THE OFFICERS REGARDING IMMIGRATION STATUS AND COOPERATION WITH FEDERAL AUTHORITIES. I MEAN, FEDERAL AGENCIES. TO DATE, THE OFFICE HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS OR NOR RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS ON THIS MATTER. UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY VACANCIES IN DISTRICT 12 AND SEVEN AND PENDING AND REAPPOINTMENTS IN DISTRICT 15 AND FOUR. UM, OUR PROGRESS REFLECTS COMMITMENTS TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP. I INVITE THE BOARD'S ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH TRAINING IN PUBLIC AWARENESS EFFORTS. SPECIFICALLY, YOUR FEEDBACK AND PARTICIPATION IS SORTED FOR THE PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT, RECORDING FOR CPOB IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH, UM, INCREASING AWARENESS OF OUR, UM, COMPLAINT PROCESS AND MEDIATION PROGRAM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION ONGOING PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DIRECTOR, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS DIRECTED TO DIRECTOR ANDRE? NOPE. I, I'D LOVE, UH, COULD YOU SHARE A BIT MORE ABOUT THE MEDIATION PROGRAM? AGAIN, JUST REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT WHAT THAT IS AND, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST ONE EVER. IS THAT, WHAT, IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTAND? THIS IS THE FIRST ONE I'M, I'M AWARE OF. OKAY. UM, SINCE IT'S BEEN AN ORDINANCE SINCE 2019, UM, THIS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST IN THE PAST REALLY HAVE NOT, WE HAD A MEDIATION MANAGER. UM, WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE LIKE AN ACTIVE PROGRAM. SO WE REALLY WORKED, UM, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS IN THE GENERAL ORDERS, THIS WAS IN THEIR SOPS, AS WELL AS ALSO GETTING THE SUPPORT FROM THE ASSOCIATION AS WELL FOR THE OFFICERS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE PARTICIPATING. AND I THINK PRIOR TO THAT IT JUST DIDN'T, THERE WAS JUST REALLY NO ENGAGEMENT IN THAT PART. UM, AND THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY TO HELP LIKE THE LOWER LEVEL, UM, COMPLAINTS TO RESOLVE THOSE. SO LIKE THIS COURTESY, UM, UM, [00:45:01] YOU KNOW, IMPROPER INVESTIGATION, LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S MINOR, MAYBE A TRAFFIC STOP, SOME OF THOSE CASES THAT WE GET THAT MAYBE COULD BE RESOLVED THROUGH A CONVERSATION IS REALLY A FACILITATED CONVERSATION, DIALOGUE. UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBER TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE OFFICER WHERE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE IN OUR NORMAL PROCESS. UM, OF COURSE IT'S VOLUNTARY FOR BOTH PARTIES. UM, YOU KNOW, BOTH PARTIES HAVE TO AGREE TO IT. AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT AGREEMENT, UM, WOULD WE HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS TRULY NEUTRAL? WE HAVE MOVED IT WHERE, UM, THE MEDIATOR'S A CONTRACTOR INSTEAD OF SOMEBODY THAT IS STAFF IN OUR OFFICE. AND I THINK THAT REALLY MAKES SURE THAT BOTH PARTIES, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PERSON THAT'S IN BETWEEN FACILITATING THIS CONVERSATION DOESN'T HAVE AN ALLIANCE EITHER TO DBD OR OUR, OUR OFFICE. UM, AND I THINK THAT REALLY KIND OF HELPED TO SHAPE, UM, AND TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE OFFICERS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PROCESS AS WELL AND BE MORE OPEN TO, UM, SAYING YES TO PARTICIPATING. AND THEN IT'S ALSO OFFSITE. UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, MAYBE USING A FACILITY SPECIFICALLY FOR MEDIATORS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'LL BE USING A MEDIATOR'S OFFICE, UM, WHICH WE HAVE VISITED, UM, TO LOOK AT. BUT WE FORMALLY HAVE PROVIDED A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD. UM, WE CAN REALLY, WE CAN SHARE THOSE INFORMATION AGAIN, SO YOU CAN HAVE A OVERVIEW. BUT YEAH, SO I GUESS FOR MINOR, MINOR OFFENSES, LIKE, UH, A COMPLAINT THAT'S MADE ABOUT A TRAFFIC STOP DISCOURTESY, UM, THIS PROGRAM, INSTEAD OF IT GOING TO A DIVISION REFERRAL MM-HMM . WHICH, UH, THERE THERE COULD BE DISCIPLINARY, IT COULD BE EVEN PUT ON THE OFFICER'S RECORD THIS COMPLAINT, THIS IS BYPASSING THAT AND UH, IT'S PUTTING THE COMPLAINANT AND THE OFFICER IN THE SAME ROOM MM-HMM . WITH A MEDIATOR TO WORK IT OUT. AND, UM, AND SO THIS IS, UH, IT, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UM, I I WOULD SAY THE BEST EXAMPLE IS PROBABLY LIKE A RESTORATIVE JUSTICE FORM. INSTEAD OF LIKE HAVING A PUNITIVE PROCESS, YOU'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, HAVE A CONVERSATION, UM, FACILITATE A CONVERSATION. YEAH. SO FIRST ONE, THAT'S PRETTY COOL. 'CAUSE I KNOW, UH, I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL, UH, ANY BOARD MEMBERS RECALL THAT BEEN HERE AS LONG AS ME. BRANDON, HAS YOU EVER REMEMBER A MEDIATION TAKING PLACE? UH, WE HAD A MEDIATION MANAGER, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL ANY ACTUAL MEDIATIONS BETWEEN DPD AND A RESIDENT. YEAH, I THINK THIS IS, I, I RECALL, I CAN'T RECALL ANY OTHER TIMES. THIS IS GOOD, GOOD NEWS. SO THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK. SO YEAH, WE'RE JUST DOING A PILOT TO BEGIN. UM, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOME AWARENESS, SOME VIDEOS TO REACH THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF THE PROGRAM AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S AVAILABLE. 'CAUSE THEY ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO'S REALLY INTERESTED IN JUST MAKING SURE THAT OFFICERS JUST LIKE, UNDERSTAND HOW THEY FELT IN THAT SITUATION. AND I THINK THIS WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A CASE THAT WE GOT WHERE THE PERSON WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HAVE, WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE OFFICER AS OPPOSED TO GOING THROUGH A COMPLAINT PROCESS. MS. MR. CHAIR, WE HAD TWO MEDIATION MANAGERS BUT NEVER HAD ANY HEARINGS. OKAY. LET IT BE KNOWN. YEAH. SO THANK YOU DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, MADAM DIRECTOR, UM, I'M SORRY, MADAM DIRECTOR. UH, FIRST OF ALL, I'M A JUDGE LANDER, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT. I AM A FIRM BELIEVER IN MEDIATION. I THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO GET PEOPLE TO TALK TO EACH OTHER, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. UM, HOW ARE YOUR MEDIATORS, UH, SELECTED OR DO YOU KNOW YET? UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE, UM, WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO, UM, REACH OUT AND WE WERE GIVEN SOMEBODY THAT'S LIKE THE PRESIDENT OF THE MEDIATION ASSOCIATION WHO'S GONNA BE HANDLING THE PILOT. UM, BUT MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT PUTTING THE APPLICATION OUT AND GOING THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS TO KIND OF HAVE A LIST WHERE WE WILL RANDOMLY, UM, ROTATE SO WE CAN HAVE, JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BALANCING IT. BUT THAT'S HOW WE INTEND TO, TO DO THAT PAST THE PRIVATE PROGRAM PROGRAM. I WAS, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST GOING THROUGH THE MEDIATION ASSOCIATION BECAUSE MOST MEDIATORS, IF NOT ALL, UH, ARE A PART OF THAT ORGANIZATION. YEAH. EXCELLENT WORK. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, HEARING MORE ABOUT IT AND SEEING SOME SUCCESSES. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I AM ASSISTANT CHIEF ISRAEL HERRERA OVER THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS BUREAU. I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO THANK DIRECTOR ANDRE, UH, MICHEL ON THE HARD WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM PUT INTO THIS. A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK, UH, BACK AND FORTH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THIS RIGHT. I'M SO EXCITED THAT THIS IS THE VERY FIRST ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE THROUGH AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE FUTURE. YES, YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AGREE. THIS IS GREAT NEWS BECAUSE I KNOW FOR YEARS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE PROGRAM, NEVER HEARD IT HAPPENING. AND, UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A WIN-WIN. IT'S A WIN FOR THE OFFICERS. 'CAUSE UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ALLOWING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, IT [00:50:01] DOESN'T GO TO A DIVISION REFERRAL AND SO, UH, THERE ISN'T SORT OF ANY RISK OF BEING ON THE RECORD, BUT THE PROBLEM IS BEING DEALT WITH AND, UH, THE COMPLAINT IS BEING HONORED THE SAME, SAME WAY. SO I'M HAPPY AND I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT THE, THE DPD ISS ALSO ON BOARD. IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WE ARE AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I JUST, OH, UH, MR. FREEMAN, YES, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. UH, WHAT HAPPENS IF, UH, A A RESIDENT AND A POLICE OFFICER AGREE TO MEDIATION? UH, THEY GO INTO MEDIATION, BUT THE RESIDENT WITH THE COMPLAINT IS NOT SATISFIED. CAN THEY THEN FILE A COMPLAINT OR DO THEY FOREGO THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT BY ENTERING MEDIATION, THE FORGO REGARDING THAT INCIDENT? SO IF THERE'S ANOTHER INCIDENT THAT OCCURS THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT THAT PARTICULAR INCIDENT THAT'S BEING MEDIATED, THEY, THAT CASE, UM, FOR FAIRNESS, LIKE ONCE THEY AGREE TO MEDIATION IN BOTH PARTIES AND THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UM, THE LAW CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE, UM, A RESOLUTION OR AGREEMENT, UM, FOR THAT TO BE RESOLVED THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN. THAT OKAY. I MEAN, I, I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF MEDIATION AND I, I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD THING, BUT, UH, I'M A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA THAT IF I, IF I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A POLICE OFFICER AND I AGREE TO GO IN, I AGREE TO GO INTO MEDIATION TO TRY TO RESOLVE IT THAT WAY RATHER THAN ESCALATING. UM, BUT THEN THAT CANCELS OUT MY ABILITY TO COMPLAIN, TO FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT IF I'M UNSATISFIED WITH MEDIATION RESULT. YES. SO I, I DON'T, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE GONNA SOLVE RIGHT HERE, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT ON THE RECORD. YEAH, I THINK IT'S A, DEFINITELY A CONCERN, UM, THAT SOME PEOPLE DEFINITELY EXPRESS, BUT IT IS A PRETTY CONSISTENT, UM, PROCESS THAT I'VE SEEN. UM, WHENEVER YOU'RE GOING THROUGH MEDIATION, YOU DO, UM, THE POINT IS FOR THAT CASE TO NOT GO THROUGH, UM, IN AN INVESTIGATION. UM, BUT IT'S JUST A STANDARD PRACTICE. I HAVE SEEN, EVEN IN THE PROGRAM I WAS, UM, IN NEW YORK, IT WAS A SIMILAR, UM, PROCESS MATTER THE RECORD. IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE BINDING ARBITRATION THAN IT DOES MEDIATION. UH, IF YOU, IF THE PARTIES CANNOT, UM, APPEAL IF YOU WILL, YEAH, THEN IT'S REALLY BINDING AND THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT FROM BOTH SIDES. YES, THEY, THEY WILL. OKAY. AND ALL THE, WE HAVE A MEDIATION AGREEMENT AS WELL AS THE CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. UM, ESPECIALLY, I AM ACTUALLY SURPRISED THERE WASN'T A LOT OF LIKE PAPERWORK THAT WAS DONE, BUT WE HAVE, UM, GONE THROUGH A LONG PROCESS TO, TO GET ALL THE PAPERWORK, EVERYTHING REVIEWED, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY WERE SIGNING BEFORE THEY, UM, GO START THE PROCESS, UM, EXPLICITLY NOTE THAT AND THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT, UM, AND EVEN IN A NOTIFICATION AS WELL. UM, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE DIRECTOR? OKAY. UH, SCENE. THERE'S NONE. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR FOR THAT REPORT. UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE, UH, TO AGENDA ITEM, UM, B, WHICH IS SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR REPORT. I'D LIKE TO WELCOME SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF, WHO WILL SHARE THE MOST RECENT DPD CRITICAL INCIDENTS. UH, THESE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF INVESTIGATION, SO THIS IS INFORMATION AT THIS TIME. UH, MEMOS REGARDING RECENT CRITICAL INCIDENTS, UH, AS OF APRIL 19TH HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PACKET AND FOR YOUR REVIEW AS WELL. SO, UH, ADDITIONALLY, HE WILL COMMENCE WITH AN UPDATE ON ALL OF THE OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS AND DEATHS IN CUSTODY THAT HAVE OCCURRED, UH, SINCE 2019. INVESTIGATOR, UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. HI, I'M GREG HUFF, THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR FOR THE OFFICE. UH, THE FIRST CRITICAL INCIDENT IS A DEATH IN CUSTODY THAT OCCURRED ON APRIL 8TH, 2026. THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, DALLAS POLICE OFFICER CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STOP IN THE 4,400 BLOCK OF SIMPSON STEWART ROAD. A PASSENGER FLED ON FOOT TO A NEARBY WOODED AREA. OFFICERS ESTABLISHED A PERIMETER AND SEARCHED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. AT APPROXIMATELY 10:54 PM OFFICERS SAW THIS PASSENGER CROSSING SIMPSON STEWART ROAD IN A FOOT PURSUIT ENSUED. THE PASSENGER RAN ONTO THE FREEWAY AND ONE OFFICER OBSERVED THAT THIS PASSENGER WAS TRYING TO GET HIT BY VEHICLES ON THE FREEWAY. SO THAT OFFICER ATTEMPTED TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. ANOTHER OFFICER APPROACHED THE PASSENGER AND ORDERED THE HIM TO GET ON THE GROUND AS THE OFFICER WAS DEPLOYING A TASER. ABOUT THE SAME TIME A POP WAS HEARD WHEN OFFICERS APPROACHED, THEY FOUND A HANDGUN ON THE GROUND AND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BLOOD. IT APPEARED THE PASSENGER HAD SHOT HIMSELF IN THE HEAD. DALLAS FIRE RESCUE PRONOUNCED THE PASSENGER DECEASED AT 10:58 PM THE PASSENGER WAS IDENTIFIED AS 3-YEAR-OLD, THE DOMINIC MARTIN, [00:55:01] WHO HAD SEVERAL ACTIVE WARRANTS AT THE TIME OF HIS DEATH. AND IT WAS REPORTED THAT HE HAD STATED HE WAS NOT GONNA GO TO PRISON. AND THE DALLAS SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS UNIT RESPONDED TO THE SCENE AND IS INVESTIGATING THE INCIDENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, INVESTIGATOR. UH, THIS IS THE EVENT THAT OCCURRED APRIL 8TH, RIGHT? 2026. YES. AND THERE'S NO VIDEO ON THAT INCIDENT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT IS A INTERESTING, I I AM KINDA CURIOUS WHY THERE IS NO VIDEO, UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THE DPD HAS ALWAYS BEEN REALLY GOOD AFTER AN INVESTIGATION, AFTER A CRITICAL INCIDENT TO POST IT ON THEIR YOUTUBE PAGE AND, AND WE ARE INFORMED BY IT. AND THIS IS ONE WHERE, THERE, THIS HAPPENED ON APRIL 8TH. YES. AND THERE IS STILL IS NO VIDEO. I'M KIND OF CURIOUS. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY CAN SPEAK TO THAT FROM DPD. UM, 'CAUSE NORMALLY WE, WE SEE A VIDEO RIGHT AFTER, AND, UH, THERE IS NO VIDEO ON THIS ONE. UH, GOOD EVENING, GABRIEL CANARIA MAJOR IN IED. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TAKE THIS BACK AND I'LL, I'LL SPEAK WITH LEADERSHIP IN CAPERS AND, AND SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, IF THERE'S ANY DELAY AND WHY THE DELAY AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT OUT TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU. YEAH. YES, SIR. UH, I KNOW NORMALLY IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GET A VIDEO PRETTY QUICK AFTER. SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, AGAIN, THIS IS OF COURSE IN THE, UH, EARLY STAGES OF INVESTIGATION, SO THERE'S LIMIT LIMITS TO WHAT WE CAN ASK. BUT, UH, BRENDAN FRIEDMAN, I SEE YOUR HAND IS UP. UH, ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR CASE? UH, YES. SO, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THERE COULD BE A A BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY OF THIS SORT OF EVENT, I MEAN, THERE COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF REASONS WHY THEY DECIDED TO WITHHOLD THE VIDEO. HOWEVER, UM, DPDS REQUIRED TO RELEASE THE VIDEOS WITHIN 72 HOURS. THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN WITHHOLD THE VIDEO BEYOND 72 HOURS IS WITH A WAIVER SIGNED BY THE CHIEF POLICE. SO I, I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO UNDERSTAND WHY CHIEF CUOMO HAS DECIDED TO PERSONALLY NOT RELEASE THE VIDEO FOR THIS CRITICAL INCIDENT. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S IT, AND IT NEEDS TO BE A VERY GOOD REASON BECAUSE IT'S JUST A, IT'S A REALLY BAD HABIT TO GET INTO IF WE START WITH HOLDING VIDEOS, ESPECIALLY WHEN DPD IS ALREADY REQUIRED TO RELEASE 'EM WITHIN 72 HOURS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, BRANDON. AND, UH, MAJOR KLE. IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, YOU'RE ON THIS AND, UM, IS IT, WHENEVER YOU FIND THAT INFORMATION, COULD YOU EMAIL IT TO THE OFFICE AND THE OFFICE CAN EMAIL US? 'CAUSE UH, WE, I THINK ALL OF US ARE ALSO HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE, UH, TO THE APRIL 19TH, 2026. OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING, UM, INVESTIGATOR HUFF, THE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. SO THE SECOND INCIDENT IS THIS OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING OCCURRED, UM, AT APPROXIMATELY 2:14 AM A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER STOPPED A VEHICLE WITHOUT HEADLIGHTS IN THE 4,100 BLOCK OF WEST MOCKINGBIRD LANE IN HIGHLAND PARK. DURING THE STOP, OR ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE STOP FIRST OCCURRED, THE FRONT PASSENGER WHO WAS LATER IDENTIFIED AS JEREMY MAYS IMMEDIATELY EXITED THE VEHICLE, PLACED AN UNKNOWN OBJECT INTO HIS POCKET, AND WALKED TOWARD THE DRIVER'S SIDE OF THE PATROL UNIT. THE OFFICER EXITED THE PATROL VEHICLE AND MAYES SPONTANEOUSLY STATED THAT HE HAD NO WEAPONS. THE OFFICER ATTEMPTED TO GUIDE MAYES OUT OF THE STREET TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE PATROL VEHICLE, BUT WITHOUT PROVOCATION. MAYS PUNCHED THE OFFICER TWICE IN THE FACE, CAUSING HIM TO FALL AND SUSTAIN MULTIPLE FRACTURES AND LACERATION ABOVE HIS LEFT EYE. MAYS THEN ADVANCED TOWARDS THE OFFICER. THE OFFICER ATTEMPTED TO CREATE DISTANCE AND MOVE AWAY TO THE REAR OF HIS PATROL VEHICLE. BUT MAYS CONTINUED THE PURSUIT. THE OFFICER THEN TURNED AND DISCHARGED TWO ROUNDS, STRIKING MAZE IN THE ABDOMEN, AND MAZE FELL TO THE GROUND. HIGHLAND PARK POLICE OFFICERS WERE CONDUCTING A NEARBY TRAFFIC STOP, HEARD THE GUNFIRE AND RESPONDED, AND THEY TOOK MAZE INTO CUSTODY. BOTH MAZE AND THE OFFICER WERE TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL FOR TREATMENT. AND WE HAVE A VIDEO ON THIS INCIDENT HERE. IF YOU COULD PLAY THE VIDEO. 10. DUDE, DON'T LISTEN. HEY, DON'T GET OUT THE CAR LIKE THAT. SIR. DON'T, [01:00:01] DON'T GET OUT. NO, NO, NO. TAKE SIR. LISTEN, LISTEN. LET'S START OVER HERE. LET'S START OVER HERE. SIR, DON'T STAND OVER HERE. I DON'T HAVE ANY WEAPONS. LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN. DON'T ME, PLEASE DON'T MY WAY. S**T HERE. OH S**T, OFFICER. YEAH, NORTHWEST. JUST FAST. HEY, FAR TOO FAST. SOUTH. FINE. SOUTH FIVE. OFFICER ASSIST. WHERE'S, HEY, I GOT SHOTS. FINE. I JUST SHOT. WHERE YOU AT? I'M RIGHT HERE. HE'S SHOT. 4,100. YOU ALL GUY? YOU GOOD? YEAH. WHERE'S THE SUSPECT? HE'S RIGHT HERE. IS HE DOWN? YEAH, HE'S DOWN 10. THANK YOU SO MUCH, INVESTIGATOR. ANY, UH, COMMENTS, UH, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED TO INVESTIGATOR OR IAD ANYBODY AGAIN OF WE'RE LIMITED BASED ON THIS BEING INVESTIGATION, BUT ANY OBSERVATIONS OR QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ASK? OKAY. I JUST WANNA, YES, DIRECTOR. I JUST WANNA ADD, UM, FOR BOTH CRITICAL INCIDENT, I DID RESPOND AND I WAS BRIEFED AND I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW BOTH OF THE VIDEOS. SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD. SO YOU'VE SEEN THE, THE VIDEO THAT WASN'T PRIVY TO THE PUBLIC? CORRECT. OH, OKAY. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, YES. MAJOR. YES. I, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE CLARIFICATION UPDATE, UM, THAT I WAS JUST MADE AWARE. BUT THE, UH, VIDEO THAT, OR THE FIRST INCIDENT THAT WAS BRIEFED OUT BY INVESTIGATOR HUFF WAS ACTUALLY DETERMINED A SUICIDE AND NOT A DEATH IN CUSTODY. UM, ROUND COUNTS WERE CONDUCTED, NO OFFICER FIRED THEIR WEAPON, AND, UH, IT WAS DEEMED A SUICIDE. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT, SO THAT, THAT'S THE REASON WHY, UH, IT WASN'T, UH, SURE. TO THE PUBLIC AS IT WAS DEEMED AS SUICIDE VERSUS AN OFFICER SHOOTING. CORRECT. AND SO, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNICATION NEXT TIME IS, YOU KNOW, SHORED UP A LITTLE BIT, SO THAT WAY WE'RE NOT ALL CONFUSED. OKAY. UH, MR. FREEMAN, I SEE YOUR HANDS IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK MAJOR. UH, I HAVE A, JUST A QUESTION REGARDING THAT FOR DIRECTOR ANDRE, DIRECTOR ANDRE, WAS YOUR ASSESSMENT? UH, THE SAME AS DVDS? SHE, UH, STEPPED AWAY REAL QUICK. UH, SO, UH, SHE'S NOT AT THIS DESK AT THIS TIME, BUT SHE'S WALKING BACK AND, UH, YEAH, WHENEVER, UH, WHENEVER SHE'S SEATED. MR. FREEMAN, WOULD YOU MIND, UH, REPEATING THAT QUESTION SO SHE COULD HEAR YOU? YES. UH, MY QUESTION'S FOR DIRECTOR ANDRE. UM, DIRECTOR ANDRE, UH, WAS YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE VIDEO THAT YOU SAW CONSISTENT WITH WHAT DPD REPORTED REGARDING THE MAY 8TH ABOUT THE SUICIDE? ARE YOU REFERRING TO YEAH. APRIL 18? YES. YES. YES. CORRECT. CORRECT. IT WAS, OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW. THE ONLY CLARIFICATION, I WILL SAY THE MAY 8TH, I WAS OUT OF TOWN, UM, I BELIEVE, UM, A SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST AND COMMUNICATION ADVISOR WAS ON CALL FOR CRITICAL INCIDENT, BUT WE DID NOT, UM, RESPOND TO THAT ONE, BUT WE RESPONDED TO THE, UM, APRIL 19TH. I DID. JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT CORRECTION. OKAY. SO, YEAH, YOU WEREN'T THERE FOR THE APRIL 8TH, BUT YOU DID SEE THE VIDEO YES. AND YOU CONCUR WITH YES. BASED ON WHAT YOU SAW, YOU CONCUR WITH DPD ON THE ASSESSMENT THAT YES. WAS A DEATH BY SUICIDE? CORRECT. OKAY. YES. UM, THERE'S SO MANY OF THEM. YEAH. I HEAR YOU. THIS, THIS YEAR. SO, , OKAY. SEEING THERE'S NO MORE, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, UH, WE WILL NOW, UH, MOVE TO CONSIDERATION OF INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION REVIEW. UH, SO INVESTIGATOR HUFF WILL NOW PRESENT BRIEFINGS ON THE CONSIDERATION OF AN INDEPENDENT REVIEW. UM, AND THIS IS THE TIME WHERE, UH, WE HEAR A SHORT BRIEFING OF, UM, [01:05:01] A CASE. AND AS A BOARD, WE DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO HAVE THE INVESTIGATOR EX, UH, EXPLORE FURTHER THROUGH AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. SO WE'LL BEGIN, UH, WITH CASE NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS RUSSELL SMITH. AND IF YOU RECALL, THIS IS THE CASE THAT IT WAS ON OUR AGENDA LAST MEETING, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE THE BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE, BUT THAT BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE WAS UPLOADED TO THE SHAREPOINT. AND, UH, WE'VE GIVEN IT, WE'VE ALL BEEN GIVEN A CHANCE TO, TO WATCH IT. WE SEE IT. AND SO, UH, WE WILL NOW, UH, BASED ON THAT BEING UPLOADED, UH, WE'LL NOW HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM INVESTIGATOR HUFF REGARDING THIS CASE. UH, AFTER HIS CONCLUSION, WE WILL VOTE WHETHER WE WANT TO, UH, INVESTIGATE FURTHER. SO, AS A REMINDER, THIS CASE WAS FROM A COMPLAINT FROM OCTOBER 21ST, 2025, WHEN RUSSELL SMITH, UM, COMPLAINED. AND HIS COMPLAINTS WERE, UM, ONE WAS HE ALLEGED THAT DURING DETENTION OFFICERS PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED HIM BY GRABBING AND TWISTING HIS ARMS BEHIND HIS BACK. AND HE ALSO STATED THAT NEITHER OFFICER INFORMED HIM OF THE CRIME FOR WHICH HE'S BEING DETAINED. FOR A REVIEW OF THE CALL SHEET, WHICH IS THE INFORMATION THE OFFICERS WOULD RECEIVE FROM DISPATCH WHEN THEY RESPOND TO THESE CALLS THAT SHOWED THAT, UM, A CALLER REPORTED A TRESPASSER AT PRESTON HOLLOW PARK, A DESCRIPTION OF THE SUBJECT WAS PROVIDED. THE CALLER ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE SUBJECT WAS TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS OF CHILDREN AT A CHILDREN'S PARTY AND DID NOT HAVE A TICKET OR PASS TO BE THERE. THE SUBJECT WAS REFUSING TO LEAVE THE LOCATION. UH, SUMMARY OF THE POLICE REPORT IS THAT OFFICER LEVINE AND OFFICER STEWART CRESPO ATTEMPTED TO DETAIN A SUBJECT MATCHING THE DESCRIPTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL REPORTED TRESPASSING AND TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS OF CHILDREN. THE OFFICERS ATTEMPTED A PAT DOWN FOR WEAPONS, BUT THE SUBJECT BACKED AWAY AND RESISTED BEING HANDCUFFED. THE SUBJECT ALSO REFUSED TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF. THE OFFICERS SPOKE WITH THE REPORTING PARTY AND REQUESTED A SERGEANT TO THE SCENE, AND THE INVESTIGATION HAD DETERMINED THAT NO CRIME HAD BEEN COMMITTED AND THE SUBJECT WAS RELEASED. THIS COMPLAINT WENT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS. THEY DID A PRELIMINARY REVIEW AND DETERMINED, UM, NOT TO INVESTIGATE ANY FURTHER. THEY SENT A LETTER TO RUSSELL SMITH THAT STATED, WE DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS NO VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES OR PROCEDURES, AND NO INVESTIGATION IS WARRANTED. THE OCPO CONDUCTED A PRELIMINARY REVIEW ALSO, AND FOUND THAT NO VIOLATIONS OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES OR PROCEDURES. OKAY. UH, BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS INCIDENT THAT WE CAN ADDRESS TO INVESTIGATOR HUFF AND, UH, SEEING THERE'S NONE, UM, I GUESS WE CAN NOW MOVE TO, UM, A MOTION, UH, TO EITHER CONDUCT, UH, PROBABLY WE'LL DO IT IN THE POSITIVE, UM, UH, CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. AND, UM, AND THEN THERE'LL BE SOME TIME TO DISCUSS AS A BOARD, AND THEN WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. UH, BUT CAN I ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME, UH, TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS? JUDGE LANDER, DISTRICT EIGHT, I, I MOVE THAT THE CONCLUSION OF THE OFFICE BE ACCEPTED. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONCLUSION OF THE OFFICE. SECOND, IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. UM, SO LET'S, BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO A VOTE, ANY DISCUSSION, UM, HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THIS CASE? UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS BASED ON THE, THE VIDEO? WANNA OPEN UP TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME? OKAY. UH, SEEING THAT THERE IS NO DISCUSSION, UH, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT TO A ROLL CALL VOTE. SO, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY OUT AND MAKE EXPLICIT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, IF YOU SAY YES, YAY, UH, YOU'RE CONCURRING WITH THE, UH, MOTION BY JUDGE LANDER, AND WE'LL AGREE WITH THE OFFICE AND NOT CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. UM, IF YOU VOTE NAY, THEN YOU DISAGREE. SO WE'LL GO, UH, DISTRICT BY DISTRICT, DISTRICT ONE. YAY. YAY. DISTRICT TWO IS, IS, UH, MR. MAPLES LINE. OKAY. DISTRICT THREE, TONGA HIGGINS. YAY. DISTRICT FOUR, DR. LAUREN GILBERT SMITH. YAY. YAY. DISTRICT FIVE, DISTRICT FIVE. BRIAN [01:10:01] WALLA. YAY. DISTRICT SIX. DISTRICT SIX. DEREK GRAM. YAY. DISTRICT EIGHT. DISTRICT EIGHT. JUDGE LANDER. YAY. DISTRICT 10. DISTRICT 10. JENNY KING. YAY. DISTRICT 13. DISTRICT 13. JULIA. SIMON. YAY. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14. BRANDON FRIEDMAN. YE. AND I'M DISTRICT 15 JAR MARK DAVIDSON. I VOTE. YAY. THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE AS A BOARD VOTE TO AGREE WITH THE FINDINGS OF THE OCPO OFFICE. MORE SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE REPORT BY SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR GREG HUFF. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, WE'LL NOW MOVE, UH, TO THE NEXT, UH, CASE NUMBER CN 20 25 2 24, NATHAN NELSON. UM, AND I WANNA GIVE YOU THE FLOOR INVESTIGATOR TO GIVE US A, A, A QUICK BRIEFING ON THIS CASE, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE SAME PROCESS, UH, FOR THIS CASE. OKAY. AND AS YOU RECALL, NATHAN NELSON SPOKE AT THIS MEETING EARLIER. UM, HIS COMPLAINT IS THAT HE WAS INVOLVED IN A DIVORCE CUSTODY PROCEEDINGS WITH HIS EX-WIFE. HIS EX-WIFE IS THE SISTER OF A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER NAMED JEANETTE MENDOZA. HIS COMPLAINT IS THAT SENIOR CORPORAL MENDOZA ACCESSED LAW ENFORCEMENT RECORDS RELATED TO HIS MOTHER AND FAMILY, AND USED THIS INFORMATION IN THE ONGOING DIVORCE AND CUSTODY CASE. HE ALSO COMPLAINED THAT SHE ENTERED HIS PROPERTY, DISABLED THE SECURITY CAMERAS, AND REMOVED MINOR CHILDREN WITHOUT CONSENT. AND LASTLY, HE COMPLAINED THAT SHE CONTACTED HIM BY TEXT MESSAGE TO ARRANGE A MEETING AT THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH HE REPORTED CAUSED HIM FEAR OF HARASSMENT AND POSSIBLE FALSE ARREST. THIS COMPLAINT WENT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, AND THEY DID INVESTIGATE THIS. UM, A REVIEW OF THEIR INVESTIGATION SHOWED THAT, UM, THIS APPEARED TO OCCURRED OUT IN GRAYSON COUNTY, AND OFFICER MENDOZA DID OBTAIN BODY-WORN CAMERA, UM, FROM THAT LOCATION, BUT IT APPEARS THAT SHE OBTAINED IT THROUGH, UM, NORMAL MEANS THAT ANY PERSON COULD OBTAIN BODY-WORN CAMERA FROM MAKING A REQUEST, PAYING THE, THE FEES, OBTAINING THAT BODY-WORN CAMERA. UH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WAS FOUND THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT SHE USED HER POSITION AS A POLICE OFFICER TO OBTAIN ANY TYPE OF INFORMATION. UH, INTERNAL AFFAIRS EVEN DID A RECORDS CHECK ON, UM, PEOPLE THAT, UH, JEANETTE MENDOZA HAD RUN THROUGH THEIR SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RUNNING PEOPLE FOR WARRANTS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF, AND THEY FOUND NO HITS OF ANYBODY RELATED TO THIS ONGOING COURT PROCEEDING. SO THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION CLASSIFIED THE CASE AS UNFOUNDED. THE OCPO DID THE PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE CASE, AND, UM, FOUND NO VIOLATIONS OF DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES OR PROCEDURES IN THIS CASE. THANK YOU. INVESTIGATOR. OH, ARE YOU, UH, STILL HAVE MORE TO SAY? I APOLOGIZE. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. DID YOU HAVE MORE? THAT'S IT, YEAH. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT. UH, AT THIS TIME, UH, WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I, UH, THIS IS ONE CASE WHERE IAD DID DO AN INVESTIGATION ON HERE. UH, A LOT OF TIMES THERE ISN'T ONE, BUT THIS IS ONE WHERE THEY DID DO AN, A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. SO, UM, I'M SURE THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME, UH, POTENTIALLY THE QUESTIONS WE CAN ADDRESS TO THE IED AS WELL, UM, ON THIS CASE. SO, UH, ANY, I WANNA OPEN UP THE BOARD THIS TIME. ANY, ANY QUE OH, YES. BRIAN, I SEE YOUR HAND UP. UH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. BRIAN BOD, DISTRICT FIVE. UH, BRIAN BO, DISTRICT FIVE FOR THE ALLEGATION THAT SHE CONTACTED HIM BY TEXT TO ARRANGE A MEETING AT, UH, UH, THE POLICE STATION. DO WE KNOW IF SHE WAS IN UNIFORM WHEN THAT MEETING OCCURRED? ALL INDICATIONS THAT SHE WAS NOT IN UNIFORM. SHE WAS OFF DUTY. OKAY. THANKS. SO, UH, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN VERIFIED THAT SHE WAS NOT IN UNIFORM, SHE WAS OFF DUTY. RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT THE INVESTIGATION REVEALED. THAT'S WHAT THE INVESTIGATION CONCLUDED? YES. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER INVEST, UH, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS? SO THE, UM, THE ALLEGATION IS, THE COMPLAINT IS IMPROPER RELEASE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. AND IS IT, IS THAT THE ONLY COMPLAINT THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO? IT WAS THE RELEASE OF THE INFORMATION AND ALSO ENTERING HIS PROPERTY, DISABLING HIS SECURITY CAMERAS, REMOVING MINOR CHILDREN WITHOUT CONSENT, AND THEN MAKING THE, UH, MEETING, ARRANGING THE MEETING BY TEXT. SO, UM, BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE WAS OBTAINED? YES. BUT IT WAS DONE THROUGH THE GRAYSON COUNTY, CORRECT? I GUESS POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, GRAYSON COUNTY. [01:15:01] GRAYSON COUNTY. I DUNNO IF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OR POLICE DEPARTMENT OR, IT WAS, UH, AND, UH, GRAYSON COUNTY'S UP NORTH, NORTH DALLAS, W RIGHT? YES. OKAY. AND, UH, SO I GUESS IS IN YOUR INITIAL INVESTIGATION OR WHAT YOU READ FROM IAD, WHO WAS IT THAT MADE THE REQUEST AT GRAYSON COUNTY FOR THAT BODY-WORN CAMERA? IT WAS JEANETTE MENZA. THE, THE POLICE OFFICER. JEAN. THE POLICE OFFICER? YES. AND, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT ONLY POLICE CAN DO, OR IS THAT ANYBODY COULD GO TO THAT, THAT OFFICE AND REQUEST BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE? IT WAS SOMETHING ANYBODY CAN DO. SHE JUST MADE AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. SO SHE CAME AS A CITIZEN OR AS A POLICE OFFICER? YES. NO, JUST AS A CITIZEN. AND SO SHE, ON BEHALF OF HER SISTER, I GUESS, REQUESTED THIS BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE, UH, FROM THE, THE COUNTY. AND, UH, AND THEN THAT'S THE COMPLAINT, I GUESS, THAT, UH, THERE WAS IMPROPER INFORMATION RELEASED. IS THAT OUR UNDERSTANDING? RIGHT. YEAH. THEN THEY RELEASED THE BODY-WORN CAMERA TO HER. OKAY, COOL. AND, UH, I SAID TOO THAT SHE ENTERED HIS PROPERTY, DISABLED A SECURITY CAMERA, AND REMOVED MINOR CHILDREN WITHOUT CONSENT. IS THIS HIS PROPERTY THAT HE'S SHARING WITH HIS WIFE, OR DID THEY LIVE SEPARATELY? NO, THEY WERE LIVING TOGETHER AT THE TIME. AND SHE INDICATED SHE HAD, UH, PERMISSION FROM THE SISTER WHO LIVED THERE TO GO IN THERE AND OBTAIN THE, THE CHILDREN. SO, UH, MS. MENDOZA WAS ABLE TO ENTER THE PROPERTY BECAUSE SHE HAD PERMISSION FROM HER SISTER? YES. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE BOARD? I, I DO WANNA MAKE A NOTE THAT THERE IS A TYPO ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE MEMO, UM, UNDER THE HEADING OCPO PRELIMINARY REVIEW. IT, IT SAYS ON MARCH 23RD, 2026, DANIEL PHILLIPS, THAT'S INCORRECT. IT SHOULD SAY ON APRIL 12TH. NATHAN NELSON REQUESTED. SO, JUST SO, UH, THE, THE BOARD IS AWARE, SO THIS TIME I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN. OH, MR. FREEMAN? UH, YES. UH, FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR. UM, SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY. SO SH SO SHE WENT INTO HIS HOME, HI, HIS HOME THAT HE RESIDES IN WITH HIS WIFE, AND SHE DISABLED THE CAMERAS, UH, REMOVED THE CHILDREN. UM, I, I FEEL LIKE THAT EITHER THIS WAS LEGAL OR ILLEGAL AND EITHER A CRIME OR NOT A CRIME. BUT I, IT STRIKES ME AS SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE, UM, WITHIN POLICE OVERSIGHT'S PURVIEW, BECAUSE IF SHE, IF SHE GOES IN AND, AND DISABLES SECURITY CAMERAS AND TAKES CHILDREN, THAT'S DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY AND KIDNAPPING OR WHATEVER, UM, UNLESS SHE HAD PERMISSION AND IT'S LEGAL, IN WHICH CASE THERE'S NO ISSUE. BUT I DON'T, I DON'T, I'M STRUGGLING TO SEE HOW THIS, HOW THAT IS AN ISSUE FOR POLICE OVERSIGHT. THAT TO ME, THAT'S EITHER A CRIME OR IT'S NOT A CRIME. MAYBE SOME LAWYERS ON HERE IN HERE CAN CLARIFY THAT. THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR BOARD, WE WE'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTION, WERE THERE ANY P POLICY VIOLATIONS HERE? UH, THAT'S OUR, OUR PURVIEW. UM, AND, UM, THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT OBSERVATION WHETHER OR NOT THIS WOULD FIT UNDER OUR JURISDICTION. OH, OH, YES. WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY HERE. YES, PLEASE. UH, DANIEL, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I DON'T KNOW THAT I, I'M STRUGGLING HOW TO ANSWER THAT, THE QUESTION, MR. FREEMAN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE BEING TASKED TO DECIDE. AND I DON'T WANNA PUT MY THUMB ON THE SCALE AND TELL YOU X OR Y BECAUSE I'M AFRAID THAT THAT WILL, THAT, THAT, THAT GOES TO WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY BEING ASKED TO DECIDE. SO I'LL, I'LL JUST, JULIA SIMON, DISTRICT 13. YES, MS. SIMON. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL ADD TO THAT. I, I THINK WE'RE NOT HERE IN A CAPACITY TO JUDGE WHAT'S LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. WE ARE HERE RIGHT NOW TO DETERMINE WHETHER, UH, INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S RECOMMENDATION'S GONNA BE ACCEPTED OR NOT, AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER IT SHOULD BE OR NOT. THOSE ARE, THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING, JUDGE, LAND DISTRICT EIGHT. I AGREE. UM, THE LEGALITY OR ILLEGALITY OF HER GOING INTO THE HOUSE IS BEYOND OUR, UH, CAPACITY. WHAT WE NEED TO DETERMINE IS WHETHER WHATEVER SHE DID, UH, WAS A VIOLATION OF THE, UH, POLICE RULES. UM, AND WE ARE NOT TO COMMENT OR ON, UH, LEGALITY OR ILLEGALITY OF THE, OF WHATEVER IT IS SHE, WE DETERMINED SHE DID, IN MY OPINION. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND I GUESS, UH, THE MAIN QUESTION IS, UM, WAS IT A POLICY VIOLATION FOR HER TO [01:20:01] GO TO, TO, UH, GRAYSON COUNTY AND REQUEST THAT BODY WORN CORN FA BUDDY WORN? NO, I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT WAS A VIOLATION FOR HER TO GO INTO THE HOUSE AND REMOVE THE MINOR CHILDREN. I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THIS PARTICULAR POINT. IS THAT RIGHT? UH, MR. HUFF, THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS. YES. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WAS GOING IN AND TAKING THE KIDS. YEAH. AND WHETHER THAT WAS TRESPASS OR WHATEVER, UM, SHE HAD PERMISSION, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. UH, MAJOR, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT ON THIS. I KNOW YOU, YOU REVIEW SO MANY DIFFERENT CASES, , SO, UH, BUT, UH, DID YOU BY CHANCE LOOK INTO THIS, UH, PARTICULAR COMPLAINT, SPECIFICALLY THE ENTERING INTO THE HOME AND THE DISABLING OF THE, UH, THE, THE SECURITY CAMERAS? AND, AND WHAT DID YOUR INVESTIGATION CONCLUDE ON THAT ONE? UH, WELL, WE DID GET A STATEMENT FROM THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL OFFICER, AND, AND SHE DID SAY IN HER STATEMENT THAT SHE DID HAVE PERMISSION, UH, TO HELP HER SISTER MOVE OUT OF THAT HOUSE. AND SO AT THAT POINT, I MEAN, I'M ONLY, WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE CRIMINAL SIDE OF THINGS LIKE THAT, I MEAN, IT'S ALMOST AS SHE GOT PERMISSION TO BE THERE. AND SO HER SISTER IS A, A LEGAL RESIDENT OF THAT ADDRESS. AND I GUESS, SO SHE'S SAYING IS THAT HER SISTER GAVE HER PERMISSION AND THAT THAT'S WHAT ALLOWED HER TO GO INTO THE PROPERTY. OKAY. UH, BRIAN, UH, BOB, I SEE YOUR HAND UP. UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YEAH, I, I HAD A QUESTION RELATED TO THIS POINT. UM, DOES, ARE THERE POLICIES IN PLACE THAT WOULD PREVENT A FAMILY MEMBER FROM BEING INVOLVED IN, IN PRO IN PROCEEDINGS RELATED TO THAT FAMILY MEMBER? I, I ASK BECAUSE IF SHE WAS ACTING UNDER HER AUTHORITY WHEN SHE DID THAT, THAT, THAT SEEMS TO ME THAT WOULD TRIGGER IF THERE WAS ANY POLICIES IN PLACE RELATED TO FAMILY MEMBERS PARTICIPATING IN POTENTIAL PROCEEDINGS RELATED TO THAT FAMILY MEMBER. DO YOU, UH, WILL YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION, BRIAN, UH, FOR US? JUST SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH. SO I WAS CURIOUS IF DBD HAS ANY POLICIES THAT PREVENT FAMILY MEMBERS FROM ASSIST FROM A, AN OFFICER ASSISTING A FAMILY MEMBER UNDER AUTHORITY OF THE DBD, WELL, SURELY THEY CAN'T, UH, ASSISTING A FAMILY MEMBER WHILE ON DUTY, ESSENTIALLY? YEAH. I MEAN, I, I WOULD, I DON'T KNOW OF, UH, A POLICY LIKE IN MY HEAD TO MEMORIZE IT, BUT I, I WOULD ASSUME IF YOU'RE OFF DUTY AND YOU CAN PARTAKE IN FAMILY MATTERS, AND WHEN YOU'RE ON DUTY, YOU HAVE TO DEDICATE YOUR FULL TIME TO BEING ON DUTY AND NOT PARTAKE IN FAMILY MATTERS. SO, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD ASSUME WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF THEY'RE ON DUTY, YES. I MEAN, THEY, THEY WOULD JUST NOT BE DEDICATING THEIR FULL TIME ON DUTY. SO WAS SHE ON DUTY WHEN SHE SHE DID THAT THEN, IS MY QUESTION? UM, IN REVIEWING THE REPORT, LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING SHE DID IN REFERENCE TO THIS WAS OFF DUTY, ON HER OWN TIME. OKAY. UH, MR. FREEMAN, UH, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP THE FLOOR IS YOURS. YES. UM, I FORGOT I HAD MY HAND UP. UM, BUT I WILL ADD, UM, I, IT'S AGAINST DPD POLICY FOR OFFICERS TO COMMIT CRIMES. SO THE QUESTION TO ME IS WHETHER WHAT SHE DID WAS LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. UM, NOT WHETHER IT WAS WITHIN DPD POLICY OR NOT. UM, AND SO, SO IT, IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO, TO, UH, MAKE A DECISION HERE, YOU KNOW, WHICH WAS SHE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO WHAT SHE DID BECAUSE SHE HAD PERMISSION OF A PRESUMED HOMEOWNER OR, UM, OR NOT. AND, UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MOVE TOWARDS, UH, A MOTION DEPENDING ON HOW THE BOARD FEELS, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. UH, IF THERE'S NO MORE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, AND THERE'LL BE A TIME TO DISCUSS AS WELL. BUT DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WANNA MAKE A MOTION REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR, UH, PROPOSAL FOR AN INVESTIGATION? YEAH, I'LL, I'LL MAKE IT. UM, I, I MOVE TO ACCEPT, UM, UH, INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S RECOMMENDATION NOT TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, JUDGE LANDER DISTRICT EIGHT. I SECOND THAT MOTION. UH, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION MADE TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS OF, UM, THE INVESTIGATOR HUFF IN THIS REPORT. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY JUDGE LANDER. BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO A ROLL CALL VOTE, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY STATEMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE? I DO HAVE ONE TO BRANDON'S COMMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT AN OFFICER SHOULD NOT BE ABLE [01:25:01] TO DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL. I AGREE. I THINK WE ALL AGREE WITH THAT. AND, UM, BUT THIS SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A GRAYSON COUNTY, NOT A DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ISSUE. THE, THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMES INTO TO VIEW, BECAUSE THE LADY'S JOB, UM, FULL-TIME IS AS AN OFFICER, BUT SHE WAS DOING THIS ON HER OWN TIME IN GRAYSON COUNTY. AND, UM, I, I, I FEEL LIKE IA WOULD HAVE SAID, YOU CAN'T DO THIS, OR WOULD'VE ASKED FOR A LEGAL OPINION IF THEY FELT THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN. SO I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, AND I WOULD CONCUR TO ACCEPT INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S DECISION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT A GRAYSON COUNTY MATTER THAT JUST HAPPENED TO INVOLVE SOMEONE WHO IS, UH, HER JOB IS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT SHE WAS ACTING AS A CITIZEN AND AS A SISTER. AND, AND I'M REALLY SORRY FOR THE FAMILY'S STRIFE, AND I, I WISH THEM LUCK GETTING THROUGH THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS A, A MATTER TO CONSIDER ANY FURTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE TAKE THIS, UH, TO A VOTE? DERRICK P YES, MR. GRAM, DERRICK PEG, DISTRICT SIX, I STILL DON'T SEE WHERE THE, UH, REAL CRIME IS AT, IF IT'S GONNA CAUSE A CRIME, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, SHE'S OFF DUTY HELPING HER SISTER. THE OTHER ONE WAS, UM, SEEMS MORE LIKE HEARSAY OR OR OPINION. SHE CONTACTED HIM BY TEXT TO ARRANGE A MEETING AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH HE REPORTED CAUSED HIM FEAR, AND FEAR OF HARASSMENT AND POSSIBLE, BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. SO IT'S LIKE, IT'S TOO, WHERE IT SEEMED LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED, IS WHAT I'M READING. 'CAUSE HE ONLY HAD A FEAR OF SOMETHING THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. I DON'T SEE WHERE IT SAID HE WAS. DID HE GO TO THE, DID HE GO TO THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ACTUALLY MEET WITH HER AND THEN FELT, AND THEN HAD FEAR THRUST UP ON HIM? OR A POSSIBLE FAULT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE, I DON'T SEE WHERE THERE ARE FACTS OF SOMETHING ACTUALLY HAPPENING OF HER AS ACTING AS A CITIZEN THAT WOULD WARRANT US TO MAKE, HELP MAKE THE DECISION ON WHETHER THIS WAS A CRIME OR NOT. IT'S NOT A CRIME. I DON'T SEE WHERE THE CRIME IS AT THAT. THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE WE, UH, TAKE THIS TO A VOTE? OH, YES. UH, MAJOR. DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? YES. AND JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT DATE, UH, REGARDING THE HOME SITUATION, UH, IT WAS DOCUMENTED FROM, UH, MS. NELSON, THE, UH, THE SISTER, UM, THAT, UH, SHE HAD ASKED HER SISTER, SENIOR CORPORAL MENDOZA FOR A RIDE TO HER HOUSE. SO JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, THINK IT, THERE'S THE, SO, UH, MS. NELSON WAS THERE. UH, I, IT DOESN'T GET INTO THAT. OKAY. BUT IT WAS, WENT, UM, WENT TO HER HOUSE ALONG WITH MS. NELSON TO PICK UP THE CHILDREN ACCOMPANIED BY, UH, THE SENIOR CORPORAL AND NEVER WITHOUT PERMISSION. OKAY. SO ALONG WITH MS. NELSON CORRECT. TO PICK UP THE CHILDREN. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE MS. NELSON WAS THERE, AND THAT, THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT ACCORDING TO MS. NELSON. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. UH, ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS BEFORE WE, UH, TAKE THIS TO A ROLL CALL? VOTE. OKAY. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE STARTING, UH, WITH, UH, DISTRICT ONE. AND, UH, JUST SO, UH, THE, JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, UH, THE MOTION MADE BY MS. SIMON WAS TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS FROM THIS REPORT, WHICH IS, UH, NO INVESTIGATION. UH, SO IF YOU AGREE WITH THIS MOTION BY MS. SIMON, THE ANSWER IS, YAY. IF, UM, YOU DISAGREE, IT'S NAY. SO JUST, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. UH, DISTRICT ONE, FATHER SMITH. YAY. YAY. I THINK THAT'S A YAY. RIGHT? OKAY. YAY. UH, DISTRICT THREE, SANDRA HIGGINS. YAY. DISTRICT FULL. DISTRICT FIVE. BRIAN BAUGH. DISTRICT FIVE. YAY. DISTRICT SIX. DISTRICT SIX. DEREK PEGRAM. YAY. DISTRICT EIGHT, JUDGE LANDER. DISTRICT EIGHT. YAY. DISTRICT 10. DISTRICT 10. JENNY KING. YAY. DISTRICT 13. DISTRICT 13. JULIA. SIMON. YAY. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14. BRANDON FRIEDMAN. YAY. AND, UH, DISTRICT 15, UH, JOHN MARK DAVIDSON. YAY. UH, THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, UH, TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS OF THE REPORT BY INVESTIGATOR HUFF. UM, AND THE OFFICE WILL WILL NOT BE CONDUCTING AN IN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION, UH, ON THIS ONE. UH, DO WANNA NOW, NOW MOVE, UH, TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH, UH, INVESTIGATOR HUFF WILL NOW PRESENT BRIEFINGS ON AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION FINDING [01:30:01] EACH BOARD MEMBER WILL BE ALLOTTED THREE QUESTIONS FOR THREE MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END. BUT THE, THIS IS, UH, A CASE THAT WE AS A BOARD VOTED ON FOR INVESTIGATOR HUFF TO CONDUCT AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. AND, UH, SO NOW WE WILL HEAR THE FINDINGS OF THIS REPORT. THE FLOOR IS YOURS, INVESTIGATOR. OKAY. THIS IS A JULY 19TH, 2025 INCIDENT IN WHICH DANIEL PHILLIPS MADE A COMPLAINT ON AUGUST 14TH, 2025. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS INVOLVES TWO OFFICERS WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, A SENIOR CORPORAL DANIEL RAMIREZ, AND THEN A SENIOR CORPORAL OSCAR RAMIREZ ORTIZ. SO I'LL REFER TO RAMIREZ ORTIZ, AND THEN JUST RAMIREZ. SO TRY NOT TO GET THOSE TOO CONFUSED, TOO MUCH. UM, BUT DANIEL PHILLIPS MADE A COMPLAINT IN WHICH HE MADE NINE DIFFERENT POINTS. AND SO I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE POINTS AND THE FINDINGS ON THOSE. SO HIS FIRST COMPLAINT IS OFFICERS INITIATED A TRAFFIC STOP FOR EXPIRED REGISTRATION, BUT FAILED TO VERIFY THE REGISTRATION STICKER DISPLAYED ON THE WINDSHIELD. UM, SO WHEN I REVIEWED THAT, I LOOKED AT THE CALL SHEET AND IT SHOWED THAT THE OFFICERS INITIATED A TRAFFIC STOP FOR EXPIRED REGISTRATION. AND THE CALL SHEET SHOWED THAT THEY RAN THE PLATE, UM, THAT DANIEL PHILLIPS WAS DRIVING AND THE CAR HE WAS DRIVING. AND IT SHOWED THAT THE REGISTRATION EXPIRED IN MAY OF 2025. AND AS YOU RECALL, THIS OCCURRED IN JULY OF 2025. AND THE ARREST OCCURRED PRIOR TO ANY FURTHER INVESTIGATION INTO THE EXPIRED REGISTRATION. UM, SO THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER FOR THE OFFICERS TO DO ON THIS. SO I MADE THAT FINDING UNFOUNDED. THE SECOND POINT HE MADE WAS OFFICERS VIOLATED HIS FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS BY OPENING THE DRIVER'S DOOR ON THIS TRAFFIC STOP. UM, I LOOKED AT THAT AND OFFICERS DOCUMENTED PROBABLE CAUSE FOR THEIR TRAFFIC STOP. AND THE PROBABLE CAUSE WAS THE EXPIRED REGISTRATION AND AN ILLEGAL RIGHT TURN. THE EXPIRED REGISTRATION WAS CONFIRMED BY THE INCIDENT DETAIL REPORT. THAT'S THE, THE CAD REPORT, WHICH I'D REFERRED TO EARLIER. AND THE ILLEGAL RIGHT TURN WAS VERIFIED BY THE DASH CAM VIDEO, WHICH SHOWED THE ILLEGAL RIGHT TURN OCCURRING. SENIOR CORPORAL RAMIREZ, OR TEARS, OR ORTIZ TOLD PHILLIPS FIVE TIMES TO ROLL DOWN HIS WINDOW PRIOR TO OPENING THE DOOR. ONCE SENIOR CORPORAL RAMIREZ ORTIZ OPENED THE DOOR, HE TOLD PHILLIPS APPROXIMATELY 11 TIMES TO EXIT THE VEHICLE. AND SO, BASED ON THIS INFORMATION, UM, THERE'S NO FOURTH AMENDMENT VIOLATION FOR OPENING THE DRIVER'S DOOR. SO THEREFORE, I FIND THE ALLEGATION AS EXONERATED. POINT NUMBER THREE, OFFICERS USED EXCESSIVE FORCE WHEN A TASER WAS USED ON HIM. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, SENIOR CORPORAL RAMIREZ ORTIZ ORDERED DANIEL PHILLIPS OUT OF THE VEHICLE APPROXIMATELY 11 TIMES, AND HE REFUSED, UH, THE CORPORAL ATTEMPTED TO GRAB PHILLIPS TO PULL HIM OUTTA THE VEHICLE, BUT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL. SO HE TRIED TO PHYSICALLY PULL HIM OUTTA THE VEHICLE FIRST. UM, AND THE BODY-WORN CAMERA FROM THE OFFICERS SHOWED THAT PHILLIPS WAS USING HIS HANDS IN A DEFENSIVE MANNER TO PREVENT FROM BEING GRABBED, UM, AND PULLED OUTTA THE VEHICLE. AND SENIOR CORPORAL RAMIREZ ORTIZ STATEMENT TO INTERNAL AFFAIRS STATES THAT HE ATTEMPTED TO USE OPEN HAND CONTROLS TO GET PHILLIPS OUTTA THE VEHICLE, BUT PHILLIPS USED PHYSICAL ACTIONS TO DEFEAT, TO DEFEAT HIS CONTROL. SENIOR CORPORAL RAMIREZ ORTIZ THEN DISPLAYED THE TASER AND TOLD PHILLIPS FOUR MORE TIMES TO GET OUTTA THE VEHICLE, AND ALSO TOLD HIM HE WAS UNDER ARREST. SENIOR CORPORAL RAMIREZ ORTIZ THEN DEPLOYED THE TASER, WHICH THEN CONTROLLED PHILLIPS AND THE P PD GENERAL ORDERS FOR THE USE OF THE TASER SHOW THAT MAY BE USED IN THE FOLLOWING INSTANCES. AND ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES IS SUBJECTS WHO DISPLAY DEFENSIVE RESISTANCE WITH PHYSICAL ACTIONS TO IMPEDE ARREST BY ATTEMPTING TO PREVENT OFFICER'S CONTROL, BUT DOES NOT INVOLVE ATTEMPT TO HARM THE OFFICER. THIS MEANS THERE HAS BEEN PHYSICAL CONTACT BETWEEN THE OFFICERS AND THE SUBJECT, WHICH IS CLASSIFIED AS DEFENSIVE RESISTANCE. SO BASED ON THAT INFORMATION, I FIND THIS ALLEGATION AS EXONERATED. NUMBER FOUR, OFFICER RAMIREZ FAILED TO ENSURE HE WAS TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL DESPITE HIS CLAIM OF LOSING CONSCIOUSNESS. UM, AND THE VIDEO DOES SHOW THAT IT APPEARS THAT PHILLIPS DID LOSE CONSCIOUSNESS AFTER BEING TASED. UH, THE BODY-WORN CAMERAS SHOW THAT SENIOR CORPORAL RAMIREZ MET WITH DALLAS FIRE WHEN THEY RESPONDED TO THIS SCENE. UM, HE INFORMED DALLAS FIRE THAT PHILLIPS HAD BEEN TASED AND MAY HAVE LOST CONSCIOUSNESS. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CLEARED PHILLIPS FOR BOOKING. PHILLIPS WAS THEN ESCORTED TO A TRANSPORT VAN BY A SEPARATE OFFICER. [01:35:02] PHILLIPS BEGAN TO COMPLAIN OF HIS INJURIES. OFFICER ORTIZ JR. ASKED PHILLIPS IF HE NEEDED THE PARAMEDICS AGAIN AND WHETHER HE WANTED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, BUT PHILLIPS DECLINED BOTH OFFERS. THEREFORE, I MAKE THIS FINDING FOR THIS ALLEGATION AS UNFOUNDED. NUMBER FIVE. OFFICERS WRONGFULLY ARRESTED HIM FOR RESISTING ARREST PER THE POLICE REPORT. PHILLIPS WAS CHARGED WITH INTERFERENCE OF PUBLIC DUTIES PC 38.15. BASED ON THE TOTALITY OF CIRCUMSTANCES CAPTURED BY THE BODY-WORN CAMERA, THERE'S NOTHING TO SUGGEST THAT THIS WAS AN UNLAWFUL ARREST. THEREFORE, THE FINDING FOR THIS ALLEGATION IS EXONERATED. NUMBER SIX. OFFICERS VIOLATED HIS FOURTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS BY SEARCHING HIS PERSON AND VEHICLE WHILE HE WAS UNCONSCIOUS. THE SEARCH OF PHILLIPS WAS DUE TO HIS ARREST, SO HE WAS SEARCHED INCIDENT TO AN ARREST, AND THE VEHICLE SEARCH WAS DUE TO IT BEING IMPOUNDED, A SEARCH INCIDENT TO ARREST, AND AN INVENTORY SEARCH OF THE VEHICLE DO NOT VIOLATE THE FOURTH AMENDMENT. THE FINDING FOR THIS ALLEGATION IS EXONERATED. NUMBER SEVEN. OFFICERS UNLAWFULLY IMPOUNDED HIS VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS IMPOUNDED DUE TO THE DRIVER'S ARREST. THEREFORE, THE FINDING FOR THIS ALLEGATION IS EXONERATED. NUMBER EIGHT. OFFICERS CONDUCTED AN ILLEGAL A TF BACKGROUND CHECK AND BALLISTICS ANALYSIS ON HIS WEAPON PRIOR TO RELEASING IT BACK TO HIM. SO TO CLARIFY, WHEN HE WAS TASED, HE FELL OUT OF THE CAR AND HIT HIS HEAD. IT APPEARED, AND HE WENT UNCONSCIOUS. AT THAT TIME, HE WAS HANDCUFFED AND THE OFFICERS NOTICED THAT ON HIS HIP, HE HAD A, A GUN IN A HOLSTER, AND THEN REMOVED THAT GUN SAFELY AND TOOK THAT INTO PROPERTY. UM, PHILLIPS UM, ADVISED THAT HE WAS UNABLE TO GET THAT GUN BACK OUT OF PROPERTY BECAUSE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS REQUIRING HIM TO SUBMIT TO A BACKGROUND CHECK BEFORE THEY RELEASE THAT GUN TO HIM. UM, I OBTAINED THE GUIDELINES FOR PROPERTY. THE, UM, STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND THEIR GUIDELINES, 66 OR 6 0 6 0.01 SECTION FIVE SHOW THAT THE OWNER HAS PASSED A BACKGROUND CHECK BY THE GUN TEAM. THAT'S A REQUIREMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE A GUN WILL RELEASE BACK TO A ANY PERSON AFTER THE PD COMES IN POSSESSION OF THE GUN. SO THEREFORE, BASED ON THIS, UM, THE FINDING FOR THIS ALLEGATION IS EXONERATED. AND LASTLY, NUMBER NINE, THE OFFICER MISPLACED A PHONE HOLDER THAT HAD BEEN INSIDE HIS VEHICLE. UM, AT THE TIME OF HIS ARREST, THERE WAS A PHONE ON A PLASTIC PHONE HOLDER INSIDE THE VEHICLE. IT WAS TO THE LEFT OF THE STEERING WHEEL. IT'S A PHONE HOLDER THAT WOULD GO INTO LIKE THE VENT OF THE VEHICLE. AND THE PHONE SITS THERE. UH, BODY-WORN CAMERA VIDEO SHOWS. IT'S, IT CLEARLY THAT IT WAS STILL IN THERE WHEN THE OFFICERS WERE LEAVING. YOU CAN SEE ONE OFFICER TAKE THE PHONE OUT OF THE HOLDER AND PLACE THAT PHONE INTO A PROPERTY BAG, BUT DOES NOT REMOVE THE PHONE HOLDER. AND, AND WE GOT BODY-WORN CAMERA VIDEO NEAR THE END WHERE THE OFFICER IS CLOSING UP ALL THE DOORS BEFORE THE TOW TRUCK GETS THERE. AND THIS IS AFTER MR. PHILLIPS HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY AND EVERYTHING. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PHONE HOLDER IS STILL INSIDE THE VEHICLE. UM, THERE'S NO BODY-WORN CAMERA OF THE VEHICLE BEING TOWED, BUT THE VEHICLE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY TOWED TO THE IMPOUND YARD. BUT, UM, MR. PHILLIPS WAS UNABLE TO GET THE VEHICLE OUT OF THE IMPOUND YARD BECAUSE IT WAS A RENTAL VEHICLE. SO THE RENTAL COMPANY HAD TO COME AND OBTAIN THE VEHICLE, TAKE IT BACK TO THEIR LOT, WHERE MR. PHILLIPS MET UP WITH, UH, THE VEHICLE AND OBTAINED HIS PROPERTY FROM THE VEHICLE AT THAT POINT. UM, AND HE SAYS THEN HE COULD NOT FIND THE, THE PHONE HOLDER THERE. SO FOR THAT ALLEGATION, UM, 'CAUSE I TRULY COULDN'T FIND, FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PHONE HOLDER. I MADE THAT NOT SUSTAINED. THANK YOU, INVESTIGATOR. UH, AND JUST FOR THE BOARD, YOU, YOU MAY KNOW THE, I ALREADY ABOUT TO DO A LITTLE REFRESHING IN MY MEMORY. YOU KNOW, UNFOUNDED MEANS, UM, THAT THE COMPLAINT THAT THE EVIDENCE SHOWED THAT THERE, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. IT DIDN'T OCCUR. IT WAS UNFOUNDED, IT DID NOT HAPPEN. EXONERATED MEANS THAT, UM, THE ACTION DID HAPPEN, BUT IT WAS LEGAL AND, UH, AND NOT ILLEGAL. AND THEN NOT SUSTAINED MEANS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT IT DID NOT HAPPEN. AND, UM, YOU CAN'T DETERMINE. AND SO, JUST SO THE BOARD AS A REFRESHER ON THOSE TERMS, UM, BUT I WANTED TO OPEN IT UP RIGHT NOW FOR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR CASE. UH, WE'LL HAVE SOME TIME OF QUESTIONS TO CLARIFY, TO ASK MORE INFO, AND THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, WHETHER [01:40:01] OR NOT TO AGREE WITH THIS REPORT AND THE FINDINGS THAT INVESTIGATOR HUFF, UH, HAS PRESENTED TO US. UH, OR IF WE HAVE, UH, ANOTHER MOTION AS FAR AS WHAT THE BOARD THINKS, MS. KING, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. SO THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING, AND I THINK IT SEEMS VERY CLEAR CUT YOUR INVESTIGATION. AND SO I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A STATEMENT. IT'S NOT A QUESTION, OR I'M GONNA WONDER WHY MR. PHILLIPS HAD SUCH BIZARRE BEHAVIOR, AND IS THIS A CASE OF A CITIZEN FEARING ARREST? UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT WAS NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. IT'S ON CANTON STREET, SO MAYBE THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICERS ARE WONDERING WHY SOMEONE WAS MAKING A WEIRD TURN, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE CAUSE TO PULL SOMEONE OVER. SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THAT. I JUST THINK, UM, PERHAPS HIS BIZARRE BEHAVIOR IS, UM, MAYBE MANIFESTATION OF, YOU KNOW, A FEAR OF, OF AN IMPROPER ARREST. AND OF COURSE, THAT'S, IT WASN'T AN IMPROPER ARREST, BUT HE PUT HIMSELF THROUGH A LOT OF PERIL THAT WASN'T NECESSARY HAD HE COMPLIED. SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN, WE CAN'T REALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR MATTER, BUT I DO THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A VOICE FOR CITIZENS SO THEY KNOW THAT WE HEARD THEM, SO THAT WE KNOW WE ALSO BACK UP OUR POLICE OFFICERS WHEN THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PULL SOMEONE OVER AND THEY FOLLOW PROCEDURE AS THEY DID. UM, I THINK IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE, UM, SITUATION WE HAVE HERE. AND, AND SO THAT'S, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SAY ALL THAT OUT LOUD. THANK YOU, MS. KING. I SEE MR. FRIEDMAN, YOUR HAND IS UP THE FLOOR IS YOURS, UH, MR. HUFF. SO EVERY, EVERY ALLEGATION WAS EITHER, UH, UNFOUNDED OR EXONERATED. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. AND ONE WAS NOT SUSTAINED. ONE WAS NOT SUSTAINED. THE, THE FORM, UM, I'M, I'M REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS ONE. UM, THE GUY WAS IN A RENTAL CAR, MADE AN ILLEGAL RIGHT TURN AND ENDS UP, UH, GETTING TASED AND ARRESTED, CAR IMPOUNDED, JUST, JUST THE WHOLE NIGHTMARE OF, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BUREAUCRACY, UH, OVER A, AN ILLEGAL RIGHT TURN. UM, I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING HERE, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THINGS HERE COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BETTER. UM, AND, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHERE, UM, WHERE IN THIS INVESTIGATION, UH, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO, TO TELL DPD THIS DOESN'T, THAT THIS DOESN'T, THIS WAS NOT DONE, UM, AS EFFECTIVELY AS POSSIBLE. UM, SO I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I'M NOT, I'M JUST, I, I, I THINK THIS GOT WAY, THIS GOT ESCALATED WAY OUTTA HAND. I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD HAVE REACHED THAT POINT. UM, YOU'VE GOTTA, YOU HAVE A DRIVER WHO IS CLEARLY DISTRESSED ABOUT BEING POTENTIALLY ARRESTED, BEING PULLED OVER. UM, SO I, I, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE I CONCUR WITH AN INVESTIGATION THAT DETERMINES EVERYTHING HERE WAS EITHER UNFOUNDED OR EXONERATED. UM, I'M NOT, I DON'T THINK I'M GONNA MAKE ANY OTHER ARGUMENTS OR TRY TO PERSUADE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD OF THAT. UM, BUT I'M, I THINK AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO, UH, NOT CONCUR WITH THE RESULTS OF THE INVESTIGATION. UM, EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY, I THINK THAT THAT, UM, IN GENERAL, DPD ALLOWED THIS SITUATION TO SORT OF SPIRAL, UH, IN A DIRECTION THAT IT SHOULD NOT NOT HAVE. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU MR. FRIEDMAN, UH, FOR THOSE COMMENTS. UH, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CLARIFYING, UM, QUESTIONS? YES, MS. KING, I GUESS THIS AND THE, UH, THE PARK SITUATION THAT, THAT WE JUST VOTED ON HAVE SIMILAR FEELINGS. LIKE THE GUY AT THE PARK WAS LIKE, LOOK, I'M JUST AT THE PARK NOW. MAYBE HE WAS BEING WEIRD AND TAKING PICTURES. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S IN DISPUTE. HE DIDN'T THINK HE WAS BEING WEIRD, BUT PEOPLE WEREN'T UNCOMFORTABLE WITH HIM. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY FORUMS, WHY WE HAVE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, WHY WE HAVE THIS GROUP SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A VOICE FOR CITIZENS WHO FEEL DISCOMFORT. AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE IA DOING ALL THEIR INVESTIGATIONS AND WHY THE TRAINING THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS RECEIVE IS SO IMPORTANT, BECAUSE PERHAPS THIS COULD HAVE BEEN, UM, HANDLED DIFFERENTLY WITH LESS, UM, FRANKLY, VIOLENCE. UM, THE GUY SHOULD HAVE, UM, COMPLIED, BUT IF HE WAS FEARFUL, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOUR DECISION MAKING SKILLS GO OUT THE WINDOW WHEN YOU'RE WORKING IN FEAR. [01:45:01] AND SO, I, I ALSO FEEL NOT GOOD ABOUT THIS. AND, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAD MAYBE TWO CASES TONIGHT WITH COMPLAINTS WHERE PEOPLE WEREN'T COMPLYING. I MEAN, THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE COMPLY WHEN THEY HAVE ORDERS GIVEN. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE AS CITIZENS SHOULD FEEL SOME COMFORT AT, YOU KNOW, ASKING WHY, WHEN IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AND, AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I COULD RAMBLE ON, UM, BECAUSE IT, IT'S, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO JUST COMPLY. I KNOW THAT. SO, YES, MS. SIMON. YEAH, I, I'LL JUST ADD THIS. I, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE CONSTERNATION ABOUT THE INCIDENTS THEMSELVES. I, I, BUT I, I THINK WITH REGARD TO THE INVESTIGATION AND WHETHER THE POLICY THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW WAS FOLLOWED, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH, WITH, WITH, UM, INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S CONCLUSION. SO IN MY MIND, THE, THE, THE OBLIGATION OF THIS BOARD IS TO, WHETHER IT'S THE POLICY COMMITTEE OR SOME OTHER COMMITTEE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES, UM, TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN LOOK AT EITHER RECOMMENDING OR DOING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES, I THINK THERE'S FURTHER WORK WE NEED TO DO, WORKING WITH THE OFFICE TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AND RECOMMEND, WHETHER IT'S EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY OR EDUCATING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT HOW THEY CAN BETTER, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE. SO I THINK THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. MR. CHAIRMAN, HAS A MOTION YET BEEN MADE ON, UH, WHETHER TO ACCEPT OR REJECT? NO MOTION BEEN MADE? I DO SEE, UH, MR. SMITH, YOUR HAND IS UP. UH, AND ALSO MR. HIGGINS, UH, ARE THESE, UH, AND ALSO, UH, ARE THESE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UH, TO HELP WITH THE MOTION? WE'LL GO, UH, MR. SMITH, THE FLOOR IS YOURS? YES. THANK YOU. CHAIR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. SORRY. I'M USING MY LAPTOP AND PHONE. I'M HAVING CONNECTIVITY ISSUES. UH, BUT I THINK MY CONCERN GOES BACK TO THE LAST TIME THIS WAS PRESENTED AND, YOU KNOW, AS A CITIZEN MYSELF, NOT KNOWING THAT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR RENTAL VEHICLE IF THE TAGS ARE EXPIRED. AND I THINK THAT SETS OFF A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THIS CASE, UM, WITH THE COMPLAINANT. UM, AND SO WHERE I AGREE WITH SOME, THE OUTCOMES OF THE INVESTIGATION AND THAT BEING A, YOU KNOW, A, A ISSUE FOR ANY DRIVER OF THE RENTAL CAR THAT YOU AREN'T, THE DRIVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS OR ANY OTHER ISSUES, UM, WITH THE RENTAL CAR UNDER IN YOUR POSSESSION. I DO THINK WE, AS A BOARD, MAYBE SEPARATE FROM THIS, NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS OR TAKE UP WITH DPD AS FAR AS A COMPLAINANT OR A DRIVER AND CITIZEN, A VISITOR TO OUR CITY. IF THE RENTAL CAR COMPANY DID NOT DO ITS DUTY TO MAKE SURE ALL THE TAGS ON ITS VEHICLES ARE UP TO DATE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK HE WOULD'VE EVER BEEN PULLED OVER. AND IT WOULD'VE NOT, IT WOULD NOT HAVE LED TO THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW. UM, AND THAT WASN'T ON HIM IN MY, IN MY OPINION. SO I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM, UM, THIS CASE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. AND, AND INVESTIGATOR HUFF, IF YOU CAN CLARIFY IT, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IN THAT VIDEO, THE ACTUAL STICKER WAS CURRENT. IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT. THE STICKER THAT IS IN THE FRONT WINDSHIELD, UH, SHOWED MAY OF 26. SO THE, THE STICKER ITSELF WAS CURRENT, BUT WHEN THE, WHEN THE OFFICER RAN THE PLATES, IT WAS EXPIRED. CORRECT. SO THIS GUY HAD NO IDEA, CORRECT. THAT THE, I MEAN, FOR ALL HE COULD TELL IT WAS A, A CURRENT REGISTERED VEHICLE. SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S INTERESTING. UH, MR. HIGGINS, UM, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. SO, UH, BOARD MEMBER SMITH KIND OF MENTIONED WHAT, WHAT I WAS GONNA MENTION, I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DIS THE, THE TAG DISPLAY, IF, WAS I READING IT WRONG THAT IT WAS CURRENT, BUT YOU CLEARED THAT UP? INVESTIGATOR HUB? YOU KNOW, I, I'LL JUST SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, UM, I APPRECIATE BOARD MEMBER FRIEDMAN LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. IT'S SOMEWHERE THAT, YOU KNOW, ME, UM, BEING WHO I AM AND BEING AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE AND DALLAS, UM, HAS REPEATEDLY FELT LIKE THAT ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO POLICING IN THE COMMUNITY. AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO TOO. SO, I, I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT DPD HAS A LONG HISTORY OF, UH, [01:50:01] UH, OF, UH, NEEDING TO DO BETTER ABOUT DEESCALATION TRAINING. AND THAT GOES BACK TO, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THE EIGHTIES WHEN CONGRESSIONAL HEARING HAPPENED HERE IN THE ALPHA GROUP, UH, UH, REPORT, UH, THE COUNCIL, UH, HIRED THE GROUP TO, TO, UH, DO A REPORT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS VERY GOOD ABOUT ESCALATION. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO DEESCALATION THAT THERE WAS A GAP, THAT WAS ONE OF, I THINK, THE 12 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT OUT REPORTING. WE KEEP STEERING AND SEEING THOSE KIND OF THINGS AS, AS WE GO FORWARD. I, I PERSONALLY FELT LIKE IT ESCALATED, UM, QUICKLY. LIKE BOARD MEMBER FREEDOM FREEMAN SAID, I DON'T KNOW, UH, IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT TECHNICALLY, I, I GUESS HE HAD THE DISCRETION TO DO WHAT HE DID. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS SEEN POLICE TREAT FOLKS IN MY COMMUNITY AND MYSELF, VERY DIFFERENT. AND THEY TREAT OTHER PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT RACIAL BACKGROUNDS WHEN THEY PULL STUFF LIKE THIS, WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLIANCE. I MEAN, I, I, I DON'T KNOW, I, I, I FEEL LIKE IT WAS ESCALATED. UH, IF THIS MAN FELT LIKE THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG OR HE HAD DONE NOTHING TO LEAVE IT, I COULD SEE MAYBE SITTING IN THE CAR AND NOT COMPLYING IMMEDIATELY OR WHATEVER. BUT, UM, SO, BUT TO GET TASED, UM, I DON'T KNOW. SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE STAND PROB SOMETHING ABOUT IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT. SO I'M, I'M KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS BOARDMAN FREEMAN, UH, I'M PROBABLY GONNA NOT BE VOTING TO SUPPORT THE, THIS INVESTIGATIVE, UH, THE FINDING. HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. HIGGINS. APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS. UH, YES, MR. PEGRAM, I THINK WHERE, UH, DERRICK PEGRAM, DISTRICT SIX, I THINK THAT'S THE THING WHERE IT COMES TO ME IS ABOUT ALSO BEING AN AFRICAN AMERICAN AND DEALING WITH THE COPS ALL MY LIFE. THE, UM, THE FOCUS, SURE ENOUGH, HE MADE IT LEGAL TURN. BUT I THINK THE ABILITY TO REALLY FOCUS ON DEESCALATION SHOULD BE A PRIORITY WHEN YOU FIRST MEET SOMEONE AS A COP ON TO, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT AGGRESSIVE AT, AT FIRST. AND THAT'S WHY I COULD SEE, WELL, THIS KINDA WENT UP, BUT LIKE YOU SAY, BUT LIKE YOU SAY, UH, DEESCALATION SHOULD BE A PRIORITY, I THINK. AND THEN AFTER THAT, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, IT, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN JUST A TICKET FOR THE WRONG TURN. NOT TASING AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 'CAUSE BOTH CAN GO BACK AND FORTH AND TALK. BUT IF THAT PERSON IS TALKED OR AGITATED OR FEARFUL OR WHATEVER THE CASE WAS, THE OFFICER SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH COMPASSION TO SAY, LET'S BRING THIS DOWN. LET'S HANDLE THIS A DIFFERENT WAY. AND RE AND HE COULD FLIP IT AS A TEACHER, I, I KNOW THAT TECHNIQUE, EVERYTHING I DO COULD BE ESCALATE IT OR FLIP TO WHERE THE DAY CAN GO ON PERFECTLY OR AS PERFECT AS POSSIBLE, BUT NOT TO THE POINT OF ALL OF THAT. JUST FOR A U-TURN, YOU SEE? SO DEESCALATION, CAN I, CAN I JUST ADD REAL QUICK TO, TO THAT? YES, MS. SIMON, I AM UNDERSTANDING AND THE GRAND WITH EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, I, I THINK WHAT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, I UNDERSTAND MAYBE I'M THE ONE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND US VOTING, UM, TO HAVE, UM, TO, TO REJECT INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S REPORT IS NOT GOING TO GET US TALKING ABOUT DEESCALATION AS A, AS, AS, AS A BOARD. WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WOULD SAY THAT WOULD HELP WITH THAT. AND SO THAT'S THE REASON I WOULD JUST, UM, UH, MOVE ON FROM THIS SO WE CAN FOCUS ON GETTING THE OFFICE TO HELP US COME UP WITH WHAT WE NEED TO REALLY DO TO COMMUNICATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE. THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY POINT. THAT'S A GREAT POINT. 'CAUSE WE MAY, UH, ENTERTAIN TWO MOTIONS. ONE IN REGARD TO THE INVESTIGATION ITSELF. AND THEN ONE MAYBE ABOUT AS A BOARD, ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC RESPONSES AND STRATEGIES THAT WE WANT TO, UH, DO AS A TEAM TO, UH, ADDRESS THIS? UH, 'CAUSE THIS, THIS VIDEO WAS TOUGH TO WATCH. UH, THE U-TURN, I MEAN, SORRY, THE IMPROPER RIGHT TURN. IT WASN'T THAT BIG A DEAL. IT JUST, HE JUST WENT INTO THE SECOND LANE. THIS GUY DIDN'T KNOW HIS REGISTRATION WAS EX EXPIRED. HE GETS, AND I, I THINK ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON IS REGARDING THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ADDRESS MY QUESTIONS TO. DOES ANYBODY HERE AN EXPERT ON THE FOURTH AMENDMENT? JUDGE LANDER, THE IAD ATTORNEY, CITY ATTORNEY? OH, WAIT, WE GOT, WE GOT AN ATTORNEY RIGHT HERE. BUT I, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, THERE SEEMS TO BE A DISCREPANCY ON WHAT THE RIGHTS ARE WHEN YOU GET PULLED OVER. UM, AND I'M KIND OF CURIOUS MYSELF, WHAT ARE THE RIGHTS WHEN SOMEONE'S PULLED OVER? DO YOU HAVE TO SHARE, ROLL DOWN YOUR WINDOW, GET THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION? AND, UH, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT, AND THAT'S FINE, BUT, UH, THERE'S [01:55:01] A DISCREPANCY ON, UH, I THINK HE WAS UNDER, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH HE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION HE WAS USING HIS RIGHTS TO NOT ROLL DOWN THE WINDOW. UM, AND THEN HIS DOOR WAS UNLOCKED, AND SO THEY OPENED THE DOOR, AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW IS GETTING TASED. BUT, UH, WHEN SOMEONE GETS PULLED OVER, WHAT ARE THE RIGHTS THAT SOMEONE HAS IN REGARD TO INTERACTION WITH THE POLICE? I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU, MR. CHAIR. FOURTH AMENDMENT IS SOMETHING I THINK ABOUT WITH THIS BOARD, BUT MY DAY-TO-DAY PRACTICE DOES NOT INVOLVE A LOT OF FOURTH AMENDMENT. YOU KNOW, I TOOK CRIMINAL PROCEDURE CLASSES IN LAW SCHOOL, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT COURTS WILL TELL YOU IT'S A FACT INTENSIVE INQUIRY AND A LITTLE CHANGE OF A FACT HERE MAY LEAD TO A DIFFERENT RESULT THERE. SO IT'S A TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND I CAN REPEAT SORT OF SOME, SOME OF THESE, UM, GENERAL RULE STATEMENTS, STATUTE, BUT I, I AM NOT ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AT THIS TIME RIGHT NOW. THAT GAVE SOMETHING WE TALK ABOUT LATER. BUT, UH, I, I JUST, UH, I, MY HEART BREAKS WATCHING THIS VIDEO. IT DIDN'T NEED TO GO THIS FAR. IT DIDN'T NEED TO GO TO A, UH, A PLACE WHERE SOMEONE'S GETTING TASED AND, AND BANGING HIS HEAD AND BEING UNCONSCIOUS. AND ANYWAY, UH, THIS CONCERNS ME, UH, ABOUT HOW IT, IT GOT TO THAT LEVEL. UM, WE'LL ENTERTAIN ONE MORE, UH, COMMENT BY MR. FREEMAN, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE IT TO, UH, WE'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTIONS, UH, TAKE IT TO THE NEXT SLIP. UH, LAST COMMENT. MR. FREEMAN, UH, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? YEAH, SORRY, JUST ONE LAST THING. BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14. UH, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UH, THIS IS NOT A COURT OF LAW. UM, WE, AS BOARD MEMBERS, WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO KNOW ALL THE LEGALITIES OF THIS. UM, I'M NOT A LAWYER. I, I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHAT THE DRIVER'S RIGHTS WERE OR WERE NOT. UM, ALL I KNOW IS THAT TO ME, UH, I FEEL LIKE I KNOW WHAT WRIGHT LOOKS LIKE ON A TRAFFIC STOP, AND THIS DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT TO ME. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BRUSH IT ASIDE AND SAY THAT EVERYTHING WAS EXONERATED OR UNFOUNDED OR NOT SUSTAINED. THERE WAS CLEARLY AN ISSUE HERE, AND I'M, AND I'M GOING TO EXPRESS THAT THROUGH MY VOTE THAT I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE FINDINGS. THANK YOU, MS. FRIEDMAN. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE HEARING, UH, THE BOARD, I'M TRY TO SUMMARIZE IT. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO ONE VOTE, UM, ABOUT THE, UM, THE INVESTIGATION ITSELF. AND, UH, AND THEN, UH, I KNOW I DID HEAR AN IDEA FROM MS. SIMON TO MAYBE TAKE THIS PARTICULAR CASE SPECIFICALLY TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE POINT OF ORDER. MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, WHAT IF, IF THE VOTE IS TO NOT ACCEPT THE OFFICER'S CONCLUSION, WHAT, WHERE DOES IT GO FROM THERE? MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, DO WE SEND THAT TO THE POLICE CHIEF OR WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AMBULANCE AGREE? UM, THE LAST TIME WHEN, UM, THE BOARD DID NOT APPROVE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE PARTIAL, THE FINDING ALL THAT HAPPENED, THERE WAS NOTHING, IT, IT RESULTED IN NO FINDING FOR THE CASE. AND WE DID STILL SEND A REPORT TO THE CHIEF LETTING HIM KNOW THAT THE BOARD DID NOT APPROVE THIS PORTION OF THE CASE. BUT THIS WOULD BE A SIMILAR CASE. UM, BUT THE OFFICE WOULD NOT REINVESTIGATE IT. WE WOULD JUST LEAVE IT WITH NO FINDING. IF WE LEFT, IF WE, UH, SEND A LETTER TO THE CHIEF, DO WE EXPLAIN TO HIM WHY IT IS THAT WE HAVE DETERMINED THAT IT, UH, SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED? YEAH, OF COURSE WE COULD PROVIDE THAT DETAIL. UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, WE USUALLY JUST HAVE A STANDARD TEMPLATE AS FAR AS WHAT THE FINDING IS AND WHAT THE BOARD VOTE WAS AND WHEN THEY VOTED, BUT, AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UH, CHANGES TO POLICY. YES. I THINK THAT IF TODAY, IF THE BOARD DOES, UM, APPROVE RECOMMENDATION, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALSO PROVIDE. BUT I, WOULD THAT BE A SECOND, UM, SECOND MOTION AS OPPOSED TO THE YAY OR NAY ON THIS, AND THEN GO INTO RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK IT WOULD BE CLEANER TO HAVE A SECOND MOTION ON A POLICY RECOMMENDATION. UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY THOUGH, I THINK IF IT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT MORE, UM, THOUGHT INTO IT, IT MIGHT BE MORE HELPFUL TO ASK, GIVE US SOME TIME TO DO SOME RESEARCH. ABSOLUTELY. TO PROVIDE A THOUGHTFUL RESPONSE TO A RECOMMENDATION. THAT WOULD JUST BE MY RECOMMENDATION. ABSOLUTELY. I AGREE. OKAY. SO, UH, WE HAD THESE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE. UM, WE'LL DO MAYBE, UM, THE FIRST VOTE WILL BE DIRECTLY REGARDING THE REPORT AND THE RESULTS OF THE FINDINGS ITSELF. AND THEN, UH, WHATEVER WE AS A BOARD VOTE ON, WHETHER IT'S WE AGREE TO, WE VOTE TO AGREE OR DISAGREE, THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN WHAT IS SENT TO THE POLICE CHIEF. UH, AFTER THAT VOTE IS MADE, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AS A BOARD TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT A GAME PLAN, ABOUT NEXT STEPS, ABOUT WHAT WE WANNA DO, UH, REGARDING [02:00:02] OUR INVOLVEMENT AND OUR AWARENESS AND WHAT WE FEEL CAN BE DONE FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF DALLAS. SO, IS THERE, UH, A MOTION AT THIS TIME REGARDING THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ITSELF? IF THE MA IF I MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, ACCEPT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I HAVE TO VOTE TO ACCEPT, DOES IT? I BELIEVE YOU DO. IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION, YOU HAVE TO, OH, ACTUALLY WE HAVE, THE ROBERT'S RULE IS RIGHT HERE. JUDGE, IF YOU MAKE THE MOTION, WHATEVER MOTION YOU MAKE, YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST THAT MOTION. HOWEVER, YOU CANNOT SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION THAT YOU MAKE. THAT'S NO FUN. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. SO IS THERE A BOARD MEMBER, UH, THAT'S WILLING TO, TO MAKE A MOTION REGARDING THIS, UH, INVESTIGATION REPORT? WELL, LET ME, LET ME , LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY. I'M HAPPY TO MAKE THAT MOTION SUBJECT TO, UM, UM, UH, UH, UH, DIRECTION TO THE OFFICE TO INVESTIGATE. UM, UM, THAT'S THE, WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. WHAT'S THE SECOND THING THAT, THAT I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA MAKE A MOTION UNLESS I KNOW THIS OTHER THING'S GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S CONTINGENT UPON THE OTHER THING, SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO I HEAR YOU. HOW TO DO THIS. YEAH. AND WE HAVE THE POWERS A BOARD, RIGHT? WE WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THE INVESTIGATION, UH, REPORT, BUT THEN ANY OF US CAN MAKE A MOTION ON WHAT THAT NEXT STEP IS. SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND, MS. SIMON ON THAT WOULD BE, WE CAN, UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS. INVE INVESTIGATOR HUFF, BASED UPON, UH, HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE CURRENT POLICY, NOTING THAT I THINK THIS BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OR LOOK AT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT, UM, WHAT THOSE POLICIES CURRENTLY ARE AND WHAT MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION MADE. UH, IS THERE A SECOND? DERRICK? APPEAL DISTRICT SIX. I SECOND THE MOTION. OKAY. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION MADE, UM, TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS OF THIS INVESTIGATION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BOARD, UM, WILL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM THIS PARTICULAR CASE. UH, BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO A VOTE, I WANNA OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, UH, TO THE BOARD. IS, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT OR ANY, ANYBODY WANNA SHARE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO A VOTE? MR. FREEMAN, UH, FLOOR IS YOURS. YEAH. MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT, UH, I, I DISAGREE ON ONE, BUT I AGREE ON TWO. SO WE'VE COMBINED THEM BY, BY MAKING THE MOTION THAT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT THE FINDINGS, BUT ALSO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE I DISAGREE. I I DISAGREE WITH THE FINDINGS, BUT I ALSO DO AGREE THAT WE SHOULD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THESE MO THIS MOTION SHOULD BE COMBINED. UM, SO DO WE NEED TO AMEND THAT MOTION TO JUST BE ONE? UH, JUST THE, UH, REPORT FINDINGS IN EPISODE. I'M SORRY. MY MOTION IS WE VOTE ON THIS. I, I'M MOVING TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION, UNDERSTANDING HE'S FOLLOWING THE CURRENT POLICIES. UM, BUT I'M SAYING I'M, I'M MAKING THAT MOTION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, UM, THERE WILL BE A SECOND MOTION MADE TO, UM, ADDRESS WHETHER THOSE POLICIES ARE CORRECT OR NOT. SO IT, YOU CAN VOTE ON THIS AND YOU'RE NOT VOTING AGAINST THE SECOND MOTION. IT'S STILL GONNA BE MADE. SO YEAH, IF WE VOTE NO TO THIS MOTION, WE'RE NOT VOTING AGAINST THE, UM, THE SECOND MOTION PER TAKE, PER, UH, PER SE. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOOD. SO WE'RE ALL CLEAR ON THAT. UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO A VOTE? OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE. AND JUST SO THE BOARD'S CLEAR, UH, THIS IS A VOTE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT INVESTIGATOR HUFF'S FINDINGS. IF YOU SAY, YES, YOU AGREE WITH HIS REPORT, IF YOU SAY NO, YOU HAVE A, A DISAGREEMENT AND, UH, YOU DON'T AGREE FULLY, AND, UH, THEN THERE'LL BE A TIME LATER IF THE BOARD CHOOSES, UH, WE CAN MAKE A SEC A SECOND MOTION ON WHAT WE CAN DO. SO WE'LL DO A, DO A ROLL CALL VOTE. UH, MR. SMITH. BOBBY SMITH. DISTRICT ONE. NAY. NAY. MR. DISTRICT? DISTRICT THREE. SEAN HAINS. DISTRICT THREE. NAY. DISTRICT FIVE. BRIAN BA. DISTRICT FIVE. YAY. [02:05:02] DISTRICT SIX. DISTRICT SIX. YAY. DISTRICT EIGHT, JUDGE LANDER. DISTRICT EIGHT. YAY. DISTRICT 10. DISTRICT 10. JENNY KING. YAY. DISTRICT 13. DISTRICT 13. JULIA. SIMON. YAY. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14, BRANDON FRIEDMAN, NAY. AND, UM, JOHN MARK DAVIDSON, DISTRICT 15. I'M GONNA GO NAY, BUT THE MOTION PASSES, FIVE VOTES TO FOUR. AND, UH, THE OFFICE, UH, VOTES TO APPROVE, UH, THE FINDINGS OF, UH, THIS FINDINGS BY INVESTIGATOR HUFF. I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY FURTHER MOTIONS REGARDING WHAT WE AS A BOARD WANT TO DO WITH STEPS MOVING FORWARD. SOME IDEAS I'VE HEARD HAVE BEEN TAKING TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE. UH, WE CAN ADD RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS REPORT ITSELF. UH, WE COULD, UH, MEET TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO WRITE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THIS. THESE ARE SOME OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, UH, BUT I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE WHERE WE WANNA GO. UM, JULIA SIMON, DISTRICT 13. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE FOR THE POLICY COMMITTEE, UH, TO WORK WITH THE, UM, OFFICE TO DETERMINE, UM, UH, WHAT MECHANISM OR WHAT, WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT MECHANISM WE WOULD USE TO COMMUNICATE TO, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF OR OTHERS. UM, UM, OUR FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, UM, NOT JUST BASED UPON THIS CASE, BUT ALSO THE, THE GUY IN THE PARK AND IN ANY OTHER INSTANCES WHERE WE THINK THERE MIGHT BE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO, TO MAKE, BUT I JUST THINK WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THERE HAS BEEN A MOTION MADE. UH, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? ? CAN WE CLARIFY THE MOTION, PLEASE? UH, DO WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT MS. SIMON? UM, ESSENTIALLY, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOUR MOTION IS TO TAKE THIS TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE AND THE POLICY COMMITTEE WORK WITH THE OFFICE TO EXPLORE THIS FURTHER AND POTENTIALLY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO SEND TO THE POLICE CHIEF. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. I THINK SOMEONE SMARTER THAN ME WAS IN MY EAR WHO SAID FOR THE BOARD WE COULD JUST, UH, UH, DEFER, REFER IT TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER ACTION. OKAY. UH, THAT'S THE MOTION. SO YOURS, UH, YOUR MOTION IS TO REFER THIS TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE FOR FURTHER ACTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. JUDGE LANDER, THAT'S SECONDED BY, UH, JUDGE LANDER. UM, ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE THIS TO A VOTE? SEEMS LIKE THERE'S, UH, NO, NO DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME. SO WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THIS. UH, AND TO BE VERY CLEAR WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, IF YOU SAY YAY OR YES, UM, THEN, UH, YOU'RE VOTING FOR THE POLICY COMMITTEE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND DETERMINE FUTURE ACTION. IF YOU'RE VOTING NAY, YOU'RE VOTING THAT YOU'D NOT LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN. AND WE'RE MOVING ON. MS. KING, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS A COUPLE MINUTES AGO. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THE LETTER THAT WE SEND TO, HOW DOES THE R YAY VOTE GO TO THE POLICE CHIEF? OH, WE ACCEPTED THE FINDINGS OR WE AGREED WITH THE FINDINGS. UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF THIS VOTE THAT WE JUST TOOK? NOT THE ONE WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE THAT GOES TO THE POLICE CHIEF, OR THIS IS MORE JUST PERFUNCTORY PAPERWORK, LIKE WE APPROVED IT OR DISAPPROVED IT. SO THE LETTER ABOUT THE, WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD APPROVES IT, THAT GOES TO THE CHIEF WITH A COPY OF THE, THE INVESTIGATIVE REPORT. SO EVERYTHING, WHETHER WE APPROVE IT OR NOT, OR APPROVE, IT GOES TO THE POLICE CHIEF WITH A LETTER SAYING, THIS IS THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN. THIS WAS CONFERRED. YEAH, THE, I THINK THAT LETTER SHOULD MAYBE HAVE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, WE WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS WITH, YOU KNOW, DEESCALATION, UM, MATTERS FOR, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR CASE, MAYBE THE OTHER CASE, AND THAT WE ARE GONNA BE LOOKING AT THAT IN OUR, OUR POLICY COMMITTEE, BUT WE WOULD JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WE, WE HAVE CONCERNS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD CAN BE A VOICE FOR THE P THE THE PEOPLE THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS. UM, AND, UH, JUST SENDING A, A STANDARD LETTER DOESN'T EXPRESS THAT WE HAD DEEP, WE ARE QUITE DIVIDED ON THIS VOTE. YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALL HAVE VOTED AGAINST IT, FRANKLY. MM-HMM . UM, I VOTED FOR IT BECAUSE IT WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER, ESSENTIALLY. I WAS AGREEING WITH THAT, BUT I KNEW [02:10:01] BECAUSE I WAS ABOUT TO SAY WE'RE GONNA TAKE MORE ACTION. THAT'S WHY I VOTED. YES. YES, THOSE LETTERS CAN BE CUSTOMIZED AND WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WHERE WE ADDED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD, UM, THE DETAIL ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT THE DEESCALATION, UM, AND AS WELL AS YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING, UM, INTO THIS MATTER FURTHER AND WITH THE POLICY COMMITTEE. I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT. MM-HMM . OKAY. SO, UH, SO WE HAVE THAT DONE IN, IN THIS. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, UH, REGARDING, UH, TAKING US TO THE POLICY COMMITTEE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE TAKE US TO A VOTE. ALRIGHT. UH, WE'LL DO, UH, ANOTHER ROLL CALL. VOTE ON THIS ONE. UH, DISTRICT ONE. DISTRICT ONE. YAY. DISTRICT THREE. DISTRICT THREE. YAY. DISTRICT FIVE. DISTRICT FIVE. YAY. DISTRICT SIX. DISTRICT SIX. YAY. DISTRICT EIGHT. DISTRICT EIGHT. YAY. DISTRICT 10. DISTRICT 10. YAY. DISTRICT 13. DISTRICT 13. YAY. DISTRICT 14. DISTRICT 14. YAY. DISTRICT 15. YAY. THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND SO, UH, THE POLICY COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING, UH, REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR CASE, AND WE'LL DECIDE FURTHER ACTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH, INVESTIGATOR FOR YOUR TIME. VERY WELL DONE. ALL MOVING ON. WE HAVE OUR MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS. I'D NOW LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS IN YOUR BINDER. IF YOU COULD, UH, PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REVIEW THEM BRIEFLY IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY. AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UH, YOU CAN ADDRESS, WE CAN ADDRESS THEM, UH, TO THE BOARD. SO, UH, TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND THEN, UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE SOME TIME TO DO THAT. AND THANK YOU TEAM FOR COMING TO OUR MEETING. WE APPRECIATE IT. CHAIR. CAN I, UH, YES. UH, DIRECTOR, YOU WANNA ADD ONE THING? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, THE ONLY THING THAT IS MISSING, UM, FOR THIS MONTHLY REPORT ON, IN, IN THIS BINDER IS THE CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORT, JUST BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, REAL ADDRESSES AND EVERYTHING THAT IS, WAS UPLOADED TO THE SHAREPOINT, UM, WHERE YOU CAN ACCESS IT. BUT I DIDN'T WANNA PUT THAT INFORMATION CONSIDERING, UM, SOME OF THESE CASES ARE STILL ACTIVE. UM, BUT THAT INFORMATION WAS SHARED WITH YOU. AND I DID SEND, UM, AN EMAIL EARLIER WITH THE LINKS TO ALL THE REPORTS AND WHERE YOU CAN FIND THEM IN A SHAREPOINT. ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING THESE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS? UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE QUORUM RIGHT NOW. WE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. YEAH, WE GOT, WE'RE GOOD, RIGHT? OKAY. , JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAN, UH, WE'RE ALL GOOD. UH, MR. SMITH, HIS CAMERA'S NOT WORKING. YEAH, WE'LL DO A RECESS REAL QUICK. OH, MR. PICK, YOU JUST, UH, YOU JUST SAVED US, MAN. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU, WE WERE ABOUT TO TAKE A RECESS UNTIL, UH, UNTIL YOU SHOWED UP. THANK YOU. OKAY. SCENE, THERE'S NO, UH, QUESTIONS. WE'LL MOVE ON, UH, TO, UH, ITEM D, WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REPORT. I'D LIKE TO INVITE DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE. THE ONE, OH, YEAH. WHERE IS THAT? HERE YOU GO. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO THE FLOOR, THE OCPO SENIOR OUTREACH OUTREACH SPECIALIST ALMA PEREZ, WHO WILL NOW PRESENT UPDATES ON THE OFFICE'S COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THE FLOOR IS ALL YOURS. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. UH, CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS, AND ALSO DPD WHO IS STILL PRESENT. UM, I AM ALMA PEREZ, SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST, AND I WILL PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT UPDATE FOR APRIL. AND BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT OUTREACH EFFORTS FOR MAY. DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL, OCPO PARTICIPATED IN 11 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS. THESE EVENTS PROVIDED IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR OFFICE TO CONNECT DIRECTLY WITH RESIDENTS, SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE, AND CONTINUE STRENGTHENING RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS INCLUDED PARTICIPATION IN THREE COFFEE WITH COMMUNITY EVENTS, SEVERAL PUBLIC COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND A BARBERSHOP TALK HOSTED BY THE, BY THE JUBILEE STOREFRONT NPO UNIT. THESE ENGAGEMENTS CREATED WELCOMING SPACES FOR OPEN DIALOGUE AND MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS ACROSS THE CITY. IN ADDITION, OCPO PARTICIPATED IN SEVERAL FAMILY ORIENTED AND CULTURAL EVENTS, INCLUDING A COMMUNITY [02:15:01] EGG HUNT AND THE DELINO CELEBRATIONS. THESE EVENTS ALLOWED OUR STAFF TO ENGAGE WITH RESIDENTS OF ALL AGES IN MORE INFORMAL AND ACCESSIBLE COMMUNITY SETTINGS. THROUGHOUT THESE ENGAGEMENTS, STAFF SHARED INFORMATION REGARDING THE COMMENDATION AND COMPLAINT PROCESS, COMMUNITY RESOURCES, AND O CPO'S, COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND BUILDING TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY. LOOKING AHEAD TO MAY, OCPO HAS CONTINUED PARTICIPATING IN OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES AND STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS ACROSS DALLAS. UM, ONE OF THE MAJOR HIGHLIGHTS THIS MONTH, OF COURSE, WAS THE PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE SYMPOSIUM THAT WAS HELD ON SATURDAY. THE SYMPOSIUM PROVIDED RESIDENTS WITH AN INSIDE LOOK AT HOW EMERGENCY AND NON-EMERGENCY CALLS ARE MANAGED, HOW RESOURCES ARE DEPLOYED THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND HOW PUBLIC SAFETY PARTNERS WORK COLLABORATIVELY TO SERVE THE DALLAS COMMUNITY. OCPO REMAINS COMMITTED TO ENSURING RESIDENTS STAY INFORMED, ENGAGED AND CONNECTED THROUGH CONTINUED OUTREACH AND COMMUNITY DIALOGUE. THIS CONCLUDES MY BRIEFING, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. PEREZ. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS RELATED OR RE UM, ADDRESSED FOR THE SENIOR OUTREACH SPECIALIST? MS. ADAMA PEREZ? SOUNDS LIKE, UH, IT WAS SATISFIED JUST AGAIN, SAYING WHAT A GREAT JOB SHE DID, UH, AT THAT EVENT THAT I HAD THE HONOR OF ATTENDING. AND, UH, IF ALL EVENTS ARE LIKE THAT, WE'RE GONNA BE JUST FINE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. OKAY. UH, IT'S NOW, UH, TIME TO MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM NINE, UH, A THE CHAIRMAN'S REPORT. UM, NOT MUCH TO UPDATE ON TODAY. JUST A FEW THINGS I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS TO THE BOARD AND ALSO, UH, THE PUBLIC, UM, ESPECIALLY REGARDING, UH, THE RECENT CHANGES TO THE POLICY OF, UH, COLLABORATION WITH WITH ICE. UM, I KNOW THE DIRECTOR SENT AN EMAIL TO THE, UH, BOARD ADDRESSING WHAT THE CHANGES ARE, UM, AND, UM, ALSO, UH, WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO AND, AND WE WE'RE TRYING TO GET A MEETING SET UP WITH THE POLICE CHIEF, UH, WHERE I CAN MEET WITH THE POLICE CHIEF ALONG WITH THE VICE CHAIR TO, UH, TALK THROUGH MORE OF THE IMPLICATIONS ABOUT WHAT THESE CHANGES ARE. UM, AT THIS MEETING, IT'LL BE THE DIRECTOR, UM, IT'LL BE THE POLICY ANALYST AND ALSO MYSELF AND, AND THE VICE CHAIR. UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A MEETING TOGETHER. UH, SO FAR WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET A DATE ON THE CALENDAR 'CAUSE OF, UH, PREPARATION FOR THE FIFA WORLD CUP, BUT, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING HARD TO TRY TO GET A MEETING WITH A POLICE CHIEF THAT I CAN HOPEFULLY REPORT TO, UH, THE BOARD, UM, ABOUT WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE SPECIFICALLY AND, AND HOW IT COULD IMPACT THE DALLAS COMMUNITY. AND I, I'LL BE SPEAKING WITH YOU ALL AS WELL, UH, TRYING TO MEET WITH YOU ALL THIS MONTH INDIVIDUALLY TO GET YOUR TAKE ON IT AND, UH, DETERMINE ACTIONS WITH THE BOARD ON, ON THIS ISSUE. BUT WANTED TO, TO, UH, UH, GIVE YOU THAT REPORT, UH, TO YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAD, UH, REGARDING THAT. BUT WE'LL, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH, UH, UM, WITH ALL OF YOU. AND, UH, WE'LL TALK, WE'LL TALK MORE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN ABOUT, UM, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS AND WHAT WE CAN DO AS A BOARD. OKAY, PERFECT. AND, UH, THE DIRECTOR ALSO, JUST TO LET THE BOARD KNOW, SHE DID SEND AN UPDATED, THAT WAS JUST YOU. OH, TO JUST ME. OH, OKAY. SO I CAN FORWARD IT TO EVERYBODY. OKAY. UH, THE DIRECTOR DID SEND ME THE UPDATED, UH, LIST OF SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS AND, UH, CHAIRS AND VICE CHAIRS, AND ALSO WHICH STAFF MEMBERS ASSIGNED TO EACH OF THESE COMMITTEES. AND HOPEFULLY, UH, NOW THAT WE, THESE COMMITTEES ARE SET THAT WE CAN BEGIN FROM NOW UNTIL, UH, THE JUNE MEETING, HOPEFULLY THERE'LL BE SOME TIME FOR THERE TO BE SOME MEETINGS AND, AND PROGRESS MADE ON THAT. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING AT ALL, UH, FEEL FREE TO TEXT ME AND CONTACT ME. AND, AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT GOING. AND, UH, YEAH. THANK YOU. WE, UH, DIRECTOR'S GONNA SEND IT TO EVERYBODY. UH, JUST SO YOU GET IT. UH, MAKE IT EASY ON ME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE DOWN TO UPCOMING CPOB EVENTS, MEETINGS, CPOB MEETINGS. SO THE NEXT MEETING IS JUNE 9TH, 2026, 5:30 PM UH, THIS THIS'LL BE, UH, OUR LAST MEETING BEFORE THE JULY RECESS. SO, UM, HOPE YOU ALL CAN BE THERE. HOPE WE HAVE, UM, A, UM, FULL ATTENDANCE FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEETING. UH, 'CAUSE IT'LL BE THE LAST ONE BEFORE [02:20:01] WE, WE RECESS IN JULY. AND THEN AFTER THE JULY RECESS, AUGUST 11TH, THEN SEPTEMBER 8TH. SO, UH, PLEASE MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND YOUR PRESENCE IS ALWAYS A GIFT. UM, AND, UH, SO IF YOU CAN MEET, CAN BE HERE, WHETHER IN PERSON OR ONLINE, IT ALWAYS MAKES US BETTER. UM, NUMBER 10, UH, MOVE TO AGENDA. ITEM 10. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? UH, ONLINE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYBODY IN PERSON? ALRIGHT, SO, UH, CAN I, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING? JULIA SIMON, DISTRICT 13. SO MOVED. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. IS THERE A SECOND? SECONDED BY MS. KING. UM, ANY DISCUSSION SEEING THAT THERE'S NONE? WE'LL TAKE IT TO A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED, SAY NAY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. EIGHT O'CLOCK ON THE DOT. WE ARE DONE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.