[Transportation and Infrastructure on May 18, 2026.] [00:00:04] GOOD AFTERNOON. IT IS NOW 1:03 P.M. AND I AM CALLING THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE INTO SESSION ON MAY 18, 2026. OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 20TH 2026 TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE MEETING MINUTES IS THERE A MOTION MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND ANY DISCUSSION OR CHANGES SEEING NONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE THOSE OPPOSED MOTION PASSES THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM A OUR QUARTERLY DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT UPDATE PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM WELCOME GENTLEMEN AND PARTICULARLY MR. LEININGER FOR YOUR FIRST BRIEFING OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND YOUR POSITION AS NEW INTERIM PRESIDENT AND CEO OF DART. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN RIDLEY. GOOD AFTERNOON TO THE COMMITTEE MY NAME IS RANDALL BRYANT I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF DALLAS AREA RAPID TRANSIT BOARD AS INDICATED OUR NEWLY MINTED RETURNED INTERIM PRESIDENT CEO IT'S A LONG TITLE FOR HIM BUT LONG SERVICE TO US AS WELL AS THE CITY OF DALLAS HE I THINK HE REMINDED REMINDED ME EARLIER THAT HE MOVED SOME BOXES INTO THIS PLACE WHEN YOU ALL CAME IN A WHILE BACK. SO HAPPY TO BE HERE, HAPPY TO SHARE OUR UPDATE WITH YOU ALL, AND OF COURSE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WE'VE ALREADY INTRODUCED DAVID. WE'LL TALK ABOUT TODAY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT OUR WITHDRAWAL ELECTION OUTCOMES. RIDERSHIP AND SERVICE UPDATE, A SECURITY UPDATE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR TOD PROJECTS HERE SPECIFICALLY IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AS WELL AS THE AREA PLAN AND THEN THERE'S THIS LITTLE SMALL SOCCER MATCH OR A FEW OF THEM THAT WILL BE HERE IN THE CITY SO IT'S ONE LET YOU ALL KNOW WHAT OUR PLANS WILL BE FOR FIFA PLANNING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE AND NEXT SLIDE AFTER THAT. SO ON MAY THE 2ND, A TOTAL OF THREE CITIES WENT THROUGH A WITHDRAWAL PROCESS. THIS WOULD NOW HAVE BEEN THE FOURTH WITHDRAWAL ELECTION PROCESS THAT DART HAS FACED OVER THE PAST 43 YEARS. FIRST IN 1985 AND THEN 89 AND IN 1996 AND THEN OF COURSE THIS CYCLE HERE. WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS IN THE LATTER PART OF LAST YEAR, THROUGH THE EARLIER PARTS OF THIS YEAR, SIX CITIES IN TOTAL CALLED FOR WITHDRAWAL ELECTIONS BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS OF THIS BODY HERE. IN PARTICULAR ON THE GOVERNANCE AND AGAIN WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT ON THAT AS WELL AS ACCEPTING THE GMP ILA AGREEMENT THREE CITIES DID RESCIND THEIR ELECTIONS THAT WAS PLANO IRVING AND FARMERS BRANCH AND THEN THESE THREE CITIES HERE WENT FORWARD WITH THEIR WITHDRAWAL ELECTIONS THAT WAS HELD ON MAY THE 2ND THE OUTCOMES OF THOSE ELECTIONS WERE 70% OF THE VOTERS IN ADDISON VOTED TO REMAIN IN DART AND 54% OF THE VOTERS IN UNIVERSITY PARK DECIDED TO REMAIN IN DART AND 70% OF THE VOTERS IN HIGHLAND PARK VOTED TO LEAVE DART. THOSE CANVASES, THE ELECTIONS HAVE ALL BEEN CANVASSED AND ON NEXT WEEK WE WILL TAKE OUR FINAL VOTE FOR THE CITY OF HIGHLAND PARK AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT. SPECIFICALLY, THEY ARE THE 15 BUS STOPS. WE ALSO PROVIDE GO-LINK SERVICES AS WELL AS PARATRANSIT SERVICES. I KNOW THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP QUITE A FEW TIMES SO THE SMU CIRCULATOR IS TECHNICALLY ON THE UP SIDE SO THAT WILL NOT BE AFFECTED AT ALL. IF UP DID HAVE WITHDREW THERE WOULD BE THE ENDING OF THAT SERVICE. SO BUT THE CIRCULATOR AND THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR FIFA AS WELL BECAUSE SMU IS A PRACTICE FACILITY AND THEN OF COURSE FOR THE STUDENTS LIKE MYSELF AS WELL AS THE EMPLOYEES STILL CAN BENEFIT FROM THAT. CIRCULATOR SERVICE. OBVIOUSLY THIS BODY HERE ALSO APPROVED THE THE GOVERNANCE PACKAGE. THERE WILL OBVIOUSLY BE SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DISCUSS WITH ALL OF OUR SUSTAINING MEMBER CITIES. ABOUT THE 2% THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO HIGHLAND PARK. THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY PROPOSALS UP TO THIS POINT. OBVIOUSLY DALLAS AGREED TO 45%. NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD BUT JUST TO ENSURE THAT YOU ALL. [00:05:01] ARE AWARE THAT THE GOVERNANCE MAY CHANGE BASED UPON THAT BECAUSE HIGHLAND PARK IS NO LONGER IN THE FORMULATIONS. ALL THREE CITIES DID BY DEFAULT FORFEIT THEIR ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GMP PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EXECUTE AN ILA WITH DART PRIOR TO APRIL 30TH. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ON THE GOVERNANCE SPECIFICALLY AND I KIND OF LAID SOME OF THIS STUFF OUT ALREADY, YOU ALL AGREE TO A GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ONE CITY ONE VOTE, 40 TO 50 PERCENT, SPECIFICALLY 45 PERCENT WAS THE NUMBER THAT WAS LANDED ON. DART HAS, DART INTENDS TO INCLUDE ALL OF THESE INTO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA GOING FORWARD. AND THEN OF COURSE AGAIN THE MINOR ADJUSTMENTS FOR HIGHLAND PARK AND OF COURSE ALL OF THESE WILL HAVE TO BE CODIFIED BY STATE CHANGE TO OUR TRANSPORTATION CODE 452. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO ON THE FUNDING SIDE OF WHAT WAS UTILIZED TO WORK WITH ALL OF OUR CITIES AND AND LET ME JUST KIND OF MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS. ON MAY THE SECOND WE DID NOT WIN TWO OUT OF THREE CITIES THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS WE'VE SUSTAINED 12 OUT OF 13. UM AND SO THIS GMP AND THE GOVERNANCE GOES RIGHT IN HAND WITH ALL THE WORK AND THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE WITH ALL OF OUR CITIES NOT THIS NOT JUST THOSE THAT WERE CALLING FOR WITHDRAWAL ELECTIONS UM SO THE THE GMP UH ILE AGREEMENT THAT THIS CITY APPROVED A MONTH OR SO AGO WOULD ALLOW FOR NOW THE FIFTH REALLOCATIONS OF FUNDS THAT DART HAS PARTICIPATED WITH WITH ALL OF ITS CITIES THROUGH THE FIRST 50 YEARS OF EXISTENCE WHEN THIS GMP EXPIRES IN THE NEXT SIX YEARS. TO PUT IT REALLY IN PERSPECTIVE, THE FIRST TRIP PROGRAM, LAP PROGRAM, AND THE PTI FUNDS, AND THE SECOND LAP PROGRAM ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT $450 MILLION OVER THE FIRST 42 YEARS. WE'RE DOING ANOTHER $450 MILLION IN SIX YEARS TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU ALL. AND SO OVER THE COURSE OF WHEN THIS GMP IS CONCLUDED IN SIX YEARS FROM NOW, FOR THE FIRST 50 YEARS, DART WOULD HAVE REALLOCATED NEARLY A BILLION DOLLARS BACK TO ITS MEMBER CITIES. IT, OF COURSE, IS A GUARANTEED BASE ALLOCATION, 5% COMPOUNDING 1% YEAR OVER YEAR FOR A TOTAL OF 10%. THE RTC DID MATCH US A TOTAL OF $75 MILLION TO OFFSET SOME OF THOSE COSTS. IT IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY OF US ALL FOR DART MEMBER CITIES, THE COG, OUR SERVICE AREA CITIES, AND THE ENTIRE REGION TO NOW WORK TOGETHER TO HELP DEFRAY SOME OF THIS SALES TAX COST TO US. AND I SAY NON-MEMBER CITIES BECAUSE THE MEMBER CITIES CURRENTLY OF DART ARE CARRYING THE BURDEN OF THIS REGION FOR CONGESTION MITIGATION AND AIR QUALITY MITIGATION. AND SO IT'S UP TO ALL OF US TO WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE FOR THOSE PROBLEMS. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THAT RELIEF FROM THE LEGISLATURE AS WELL AND ULTIMATELY THE WAY THAT THE GMP ILA WAS DESIGNED WAS FOR SIX YEARS WHICH WILL GIVE US ESSENTIALLY THREE BITES AT THE APPLE IN THE LEGISLATURE OR THREE CONSECUTIVE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS TO IMPLEMENT THE GOVERNANCE UH CHANGES AS WELL AS THE GMP NEXT SLIDE PLEASE AND SO HERE'S THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WAS UH PRESENTED TO YOU ALL IN LAST TIME OBVIOUSLY AGAIN UM BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE HIGHLAND PARK IS NO LONGER A PARTICIPATING CITY OF DART, THAT NUMBER WOULD BE SUBTRACTED FROM THIS ON A GO-FORWARD BASIS. AND THEN BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO CITIES THAT DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE ILA AGREEMENTS, THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE RETRACTED FROM THIS. FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, HOWEVER, IT'S NOT PREDICATED UPON ANY OTHER CITY'S PARTICIPATION. SO IT'S 5% COMPOUNDED, 1% YEAR-OVER-YEAR. YOUR ESTIMATIONS? WOULD BE ABOUT $211 MILLION OVER THE TOTAL SIX YEARS. AND SO IF ANY OTHER CITY PARTICIPATED IN IT OR IF ANY CITY OVER THE COURSE OF THE SIX YEARS FORFEIT THEIR DOLLARS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME OTHER CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS LIKE NOT ADVANCING ANY ADVERSARIAL LEGISLATION AGAINST DART, SO THERE ARE OTHER COVENANTS WITHIN THE AGREEMENT. SO IF ANY OTHER CITY BETWEEN NOW AND THESE SIX YEARS DEFAULTS ON THAT AGREEMENT, IT DOES NOT AFFECT WHAT DART'S COMMITMENT IS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS. SO I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE THAT YOU ALL... NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND DAVID WILL TAKE FROM HERE ON RIDERSHIP AND SERVICE. GOOD AFTERNOON. AS THE CHAIRMAN SAID, DAVID LEININGER, INTERIM CEO FOR DART. COULD YOU MOVE THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER? YEAH. [00:10:02] DOES THAT HELP? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JUST A QUICK SEGUE AS RANDALL MENTIONED, I ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUILDING QUITE A FEW TIMES BUT I WAS ACTUALLY WITH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS THE DIRECTOR BACK IN THE EARLY 70S, MID 70S WHEN WE MOVED IN. SO I HAVE A VERY DISTINCT RECOLLECTION OF THIS BUILDING OBVIOUSLY. WITH RESPECT TO THE PRESENTATION IS IN HAND. WE'LL START WITH THE RIDERSHIP AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, AS WE GET INTO THE DISTRIBUTION, THAT YOUR COLOR CODING, AGAIN, BLUE BUS, ORANGE IS LRT, COMMUTER RAIL, STREETCAR, GO LINK, PARATRANSIT. WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THAT THERE WAS ABOUT, FOR THREE YEARS, THERE WAS GROWTH IN THE 12 TO 20 PERCENT RANGE. ACTUALLY, IN THE LAST PERIOD OF TIME, THE LAST NUMBER OF QUARTERS, PROBABLY THREE QUARTERS, IT'S REALLY LEVELED OFF AND FLATTENED, AND IT'S ACTUALLY DOWN A LITTLE BIT THIS LAST QUARTER. THAT WILL ADJUST FOR THE SIMPLE REASON OF THE UPCOMING FIFA CAMPAIGN THAT WILL GO REALLY START SOON WITH INCOMING ATTENDEES AND GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF JULY, SO YOU CAN EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE RIDERSHIP BUMP ON ALL THE MODES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE JULY PERIOD AND THEN WE'LL SEE HOW THAT NORMALIZES AND IF SOME OF THAT RIDERSHIP IS MAINTAINED AND RETAINED. A QUICK JUST RECITATION THERE, PARATRANSIT AGAIN DOES SERVE ALL 700 SQUARE MILES AND I ALWAYS POINT THIS OUT WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE THAT THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENT FOR PARATRANSIT IS REALLY THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE FROM THE FIXED ROUTE. ITSELF. THERE'S NO OBLIGATION UNDER FEDERAL LAW TO EXTEND IT BEYOND THAT. DART YEARS AGO THE BOARDS DECIDED TO EXTEND PARATRANSIT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SERVICE AREA. A GOOD DECISION AND ONE THAT THEY'VE OBVIOUSLY MADE SURE WE'VE MAINTAINED. WE HAVE 34 ON-DEMAND MICROTRANSIT ZONES. YOU'VE BEEN READING A LOT I SUSPECT ABOUT MICROTRANSIT OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS BY THE SEVERAL CITIES. ACTUALLY, DART WAS IN THAT VERY EARLY, BACK IN THE 2018-2017 TIME FRAME, AND IT'S AS FLEXIBLE AS IT NEEDS TO BE AND CAN BE EXPANDED OR ADJUSTED BASICALLY BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PARTICIPATING JURISDICTIONS. WE HAVE 93 MILES OF LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT, 66 STATIONS. AGAIN, YOU'VE HEARD THAT, I'M SURE, THE 26-MILE SILVER LINE. THE TRAIN SYSTEM FINALLY OPENED IN REVENUE SERVICE IN OCTOBER THIS YEAR WITH 10 STATIONS. I'M SORRY, WITH 10 STATIONS AND THE TRE OF COURSE WITH ANOTHER 34 MILES AND 10 STATIONS. SO THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RAIL COMMITMENT TO THIS AREA. BUT AS I SAID IN SUMMARY ON RIDERSHIP TRENDS, THEY'VE LEVELED OFF, THEY'VE GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE FIBA DOES IN TERMS OF AFFECTING THOSE TRENDS. OF COURSE, THERE IS A STREETCAR LINE AS YOU ALL KNOW. THAT'S OPERATED BY DART ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STREETCAR OPERATIONS AND POTENTIAL EXPANSION. THERE WILL BE A DISCUSSION, I'M SURE, GOING FORWARD ABOUT THAT OVER THE NEXT PERIOD OF TIME. A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND WE'LL GO, IF WE CAN, CHANGE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, TO Q1 RIDERSHIP. THIS IS MORE SPECIFIC TO DALLAS AREA IN PARTICULAR. DALLAS MAKES UP ABOUT 75% OF SYSTEM RIDERSHIP AS IT'S NOTED. IT TALKED ABOUT THE DECREASE OF 5.6, 7.1% FROM Q1-25 COMPARED TO Q1-26. STATE FAIR ATTENDANCE ADJUSTED DOWNWARDS. GOLINK RIDERSHIP HAS ACTUALLY BEEN INCREASING. SO IT'S REFLECTING A MODAL SHIFT, A CHANGE. IN USE PATTERNS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE'LL GET TO SECURITY AND SAFETY A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. BUT BY OBSERVATION, FIRST OF ALL, THE BUDGET THAT WE'VE ALLOCATED NOW COMPARED TO WHEN I WAS HERE AS THE CFO SOME YEARS AGO, THERE'S SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EMPLOYMENT OFFICERS ON THE GROUND IN COMBINATION WITH TSOS, TRANSIT SECURITY OFFICERS. THERE'S OVER 100 THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED. SINCE I WAS LAST HERE, I'M SEEING MUCH MORE VISIBILITY JUST BY ANECDOTAL OBSERVATION AS I TAKE THE TRAIN IN THE MORNINGS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE SPEAK IN THE NEXT SLIDE TO RIDERSHIP BY BUS ROUTES. YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THAT, UTD CONSISTENTLY HAS BEEN A TOP RIDERSHIP CATEGORY THROUGHOUT THE LAST FEW YEARS. [00:15:03] OF COURSE, THAT LARGE STUDENT POPULATION UP THERE, THEY'RE VERY TRANSIT DEPENDENT AND THEY'RE HEAVY USERS. FOREST LANE, WESTMORELAND, JEFFERSON, GASTON, MALCOLM X, AND MAPLE ARE YOUR HIGH RIDERSHIP LANES. AND THAT AREA OVER AND AROUND THE PARKLAND MEDICAL DISTRICT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ACTIVE BUS RIDERSHIP. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON RIDERSHIP BY RAIL STATIONS, YOU'LL NOTE, NOT SURPRISINGLY, THAT THE DOWNTOWN STATIONS, WEST END, 6100, PEARL, 43, ACKERD, 41, ST. PAUL, ET CETERA, AND THEN PARKER ROAD IN TERMS OF AN AREA OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, OF COURSE, WHICH IS THE END OF THE LINE FOR THE RED LINE IN .02300. SO THOSE ARE, THAT GIVES YOU A QUICK SENSE. BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S A RADIAL SYSTEM AND SO IT MAKES SENSE THAT DOWNTOWN PLATFORMS WOULD BE THE MOST ACTIVE. IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND TALK ABOUT RAIL STATIONS, THE, ON THE LIGHT RAIL WE'RE SEEING THAT SMU. PARKLAND, BACHMAN, VICTORY, WESTMORELAND, AGAIN, ARE THE RAIL STATIONS THEMSELVES THAT GENERATE A GOOD BIT OF THE ACTIVITY THERE. SILVER LINE RIDERSHIP WILL GO TO THAT SLIDE. SILVER LINE, OF COURSE, JUST OPENED IN OCTOBER, AND YOU HAD A NICE BUMP IN THAT WEEKEND, 15,000 TRIPS IN THE OPENING WEEKEND IN THAT PERIOD THEREAFTER. THE RIDERSHIP BOOST. ARE GOING TO BE GRADUAL BUT GROWING. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A TREND LINE MOVING UP ON SILVER LINE. THERE'S A LOT OF STATIONARY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT'S ANTICIPATED BOTH AT UTD HAS GOT ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING GOING ON. DOWNTOWN CARROLLTON IS TAKING AN ADDITIONAL EXPANSION INITIATIVE. OF COURSE, CYPRESS WATERS, WHICH IS SPECIFIC TO DALLAS. SO THE RIDERSHIP WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AND GO UP. AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT ADDISON DID MAKE THE DECISION, THEIR VOTERS DID MAKE THE DECISION TO STAY IN. A NEW STATION THAT SHOULD CONTRIBUTE MEANINGFULLY TO THAT TOD. GOLINK, YOU CAN SEE THE TOP FIVE THERE, INLAND PORT, SOUTH DALLAS, WEST DALLAS, RILEY AND NORTHWEST DALLAS. THE GOLINK ZONES ARE, AGAIN, ADAPTIVE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE LARGELY IN TERMS OF THE HIGH RIDERSHIP AREAS IN THE SOUTHERN AREAS SOUTH OF THE TRINITY, 34 ZONES IN TOTAL, SO THIS IS 5 OUT OF 35. THE NEXT SLIDE IS KEY INITIATIVES. I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THIS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT REGULARLY. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF MODERNIZATION INVESTMENTS OVER TIME, 1,350 NEW OR UPGRADED BUS SHELTERS, NEW DESIGN, WORKING IN COMBINATION WITH THE UTA AND THE ARCHITECTURAL TEAM OVER THERE. 01,500 STEEL BENCHES, 3,000 NEW TRASH CANS, 500 BUS STOP BLADE LIGHTS, 350 NEW SHELTER LOCATIONS. THERE'S BEEN A SUBSTANTIAL WORK DONE, NEW TICKET VENDING MACHINES, NEW PASSIONAL INFORMATION, DIGITAL DISPLAYS. OF COURSE WE HAVE THE NEW FLEET DELIVERY THAT'S UNDERWAY, 460 SOME, 476 TO BE SPECIFIC. AND THEN THE LIGHT RAIL PROCUREMENT IS THAT. RFP IS ACTUALLY OUT IN THE STREET FOR LOW FLOOR LIGHT RAIL VEHICLES. THAT'S A DELIVERY THAT WILL OCCUR OVER THE NEXT 8 TO 10 YEARS. IF WE COULD GO TO THE SECURITY UPDATE, THE CHIEF IS HERE AND SOME OF THIS IS PROBABLY BEST SPOKEN TO ADDRESS BY THE CHIEF BUT I'LL TOUCH ON THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS. THE THING THAT I'VE NOTED IS AGAIN THE ADDITIONAL PRESENCE OF THE TRANSIT SECURITY OFFICERS, THE TSOS, THE MULTIDISCIPLINARY RESPONSE TEAM IS SOMETHING, AGAIN, THAT I KNOW WAS INTRODUCED A COUPLE YEARS AGO. IT'S BEEN REALLY QUITE SUCCESSFUL, AND IT'S REALLY DONE A GOOD JOB OF MOVING THINGS AND AFFECTED RIDERS IN A BETTER DIRECTION. THERE'S A STATISTIC THAT THERE ARE 439 CONTACTS ASSOCIATED WHAT'S CALLED MDRT CONTACTS. I'LL LET THE CHIEF CAN SPEAK TO THE DEFINITIONS. BUT OF THAT, ROUGHLY 70 PERCENT WERE UNHOUSED. AND A NOTE, MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE CONSIDERED SERVICE RESISTANT AND THAT MAKES THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING. I SERVE ON A BOARD CATHOLIC HOUSING INITIATIVE THAT IS INVOLVED IN PERP IN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. AND QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THIS CATEGORY AND IT'S ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING ONES TO TRY TO ADDRESS BECAUSE VERY OFTEN THEY'RE JUST NOT [00:20:01] AT A POINT WHERE THEY'RE WILLING TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER PERMANENT HOUSING. SUBSTANTIAL, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON SECURITY UPDATES, ON CAMERA SURVEILLANCE, THERE'S BEEN A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT IN CAMERA TECHNOLOGY. THERE'S A NEW UPGRADE THAT IS ALLOWING, MORE REAL-TIME MONITORING OF THE POPULATION OF CAMERAS. THERE'S OVER 7,000 IN THE SYSTEM AND THERE'S A LOT OF UPGRADING GOING ON. OF THE CAMERA TECHNOLOGIES, THERE'S A NEW CONSOLIDATED DISPATCH AND COMMAND CENTER THAT'S RECENTLY BEEN OPENED UP. SO THERE'S A LOT OF INVESTMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE IN THAT CATEGORY AND THERE'S MORE BEING MADE AT THE PRESENT TIME IN ANTICIPATION OF FIFO AND REQUIREMENTS BEYOND THAT. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT PAGE ON POSITIVE SECURITY OUTCOMES. AND THIS IS WHERE I REALLY SHOULD GIVE THE CHIEF THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. HE TRACKS THIS INFORMATION VERY CLOSELY. CHIEF, IF YOU DON'T MIND PICKING UP ON THE CRIMES AGAINST PERSON DATA. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. YES, SO WE TRACK OUR CRIME. SO FAR THIS YEAR WE'RE DOWN 17.24% FROM LAST YEAR IN OUR CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS. WE USE THE NIBRS, THE NATIONAL INCIDENT BASED REPORTING SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE STANDARD FOR OUR INDUSTRY. AND SO OUR NIBRS TRACKS CRIME IN THREE CATEGORIES. CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS, WHERE THERE'S AN ASSAULT OR AN INJURY TO A PERSON. CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, WHERE THERE'S A PROPERTY LOSS OR A PECUNIARY LOSS OF SOME SORT. AND SO IN CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY, SO CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, CRIMES AGAINST PERSONS, WE'RE DOWN 17.24%. CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY, WE'RE DOWN 28.7%. AND THE ONLY CATEGORY THAT WE'RE UP IS IN CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY. THAT'S NARCOTICS AND THAT'S PROSTITUTION, GAMBLING, THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'VE HAD AN INTENSE FOCUS ON DRUG USE IN PUBLIC SPACES. AND THAT'S COMPLICATED BY SOME OF THE SURROUNDING PROSECUTORIAL POLICIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN DALLAS COUNTY. BUT WE NONETHELESS, WE'RE OUT THERE. BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE UM IT'S VISIBLE AND IT'S IT'S A IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE FOR FOLKS AND WE WE ADDRESS THAT THAT'S THE ONLY CATEGORY THAT WE'RE UP AND WE HAVE INCREASED OUR CRIMINAL TRESPASS AND LAUNDERING ARRESTS AND OUR FAIR EVASION CITATIONS WE ISSUED OVER 24 000 CITATIONS LAST YEAR WE MOVED OVER 100 000 PEOPLE FROM OUR SYSTEM FOR VARIOUS VIOLATIONS OF OUR CODE CODE OF CONDUCT OR FAIR EVASION. AND AS MR. LINEGAR MENTIONED, BUT OUR MDRT, ONE OF THE SUCCESSES THERE IS THE FIRST TWO YEARS I WAS HERE, BEFORE THAT PROGRAM, OUR NUMBER ONE ARREST CATEGORY EVERY MONTH WAS EMERGENCY DETENTION. SO THAT'S WHERE SOMEONE'S IN A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS, AND IT'S NOT AN ARREST WHERE WE TAKE THEM TO JAIL, WE TAKE THEM TO A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY. SO NOW, THAT'S THE LAST TWO YEARS OF OUR MDRT OUT ON THE STREET. THAT'S OUR NUMBER FOUR ARREST CATEGORY. IT'S GONE DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. OUR USES OF FORCE HAVE GONE DOWN. AND OUR EMERGENCY DETENTIONS HAVE GONE DOWN AND SO WE'VE ALSO ADDED AT THE REQUEST OF MANY FOLKS TO INCREASE OUR TRANSPARENCY MY QUARTERLY REPORTS THAT I DO THAT I PRESENT TO THE BOARD ON OUR WEBSITE AND THEY CAN BE ACCESSED THERE THE NEXT SLIDE YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS CHART YES SIR SO OUR THIS IS A OUR QUARTER TWO THIS IS FROM JANUARY ONE TO MARCH 31ST WE OWN OUR FISCAL YEAR QUARTERS SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE LOOK AT I'M GONNA POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY OVER TIME. IF YOU GO TO 2023, FY 2023, WE HAD 59 DESTRUCTION, DAMAGE, AND VANDALISM, AND IT DROPPED TO JUST 15 IN 2024. THAT'S BECAUSE NIBRS CHANGED THE REPORTING REQUIREMENT FOR CRIMINAL MISCHIEF OR DAMAGE VANDALISM. YOU ONLY HAD TO REPORT THE FELONIES TO THEM, AND SO YOU CAN SEE IT WENT FROM 15 TO 9 TO 1. SO IN TEXAS, A FELONY CRIMINAL MISCHIEF IS... MINIMUM OF $2,500. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE SIGNIFICANT DROP FROM 59 TO 15, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ONE. AND CORRESPONDINGLY, THE NEXT CATEGORY UNDER THAT DRUG NARCOTICS OFFENSES IN 2023, WE ONLY HAD 42. AND IN 2024, NIBRS CHANGED THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AGAIN, THAT YOU HAVE TO COUNT ALL A PAIR OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA CITATIONS AS AN OFFENSE. AND SO, BECAUSE WE'RE OUT THERE, WE CONFISCATE THE NARCOTICS AND WE HAVE IT DESTROYED AND WE ALSO ISSUE CITATIONS WE HAVE TO COUNT EACH ONE OF THOSE SO YOU CAN SEE IN IT WENT FROM 42 IN 2023 TO 271 IN 2024 AND IT CORRESPONDING THERE AS WE'RE FOCUSING ON THAT AND BEHAVIORS IN THE COMMUNITY CHANGE THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THOSE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES THERE THANK YOU CHIEF LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND TRANSIT RUNNING A DEVELOPMENT AND NEXT SLIDE AFTER THAT THANK YOU [00:25:02] BY OBSERVATION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS VERY PLEASED WHEN I HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE BRIEFING ON THIS, THERE'S SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN ACTIVITY ON OUR PLATFORMS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS COMPARED TO WHERE IT WAS A FEW YEARS BACK. ALL OF THESE, OF COURSE, REQUIRE THE PARTICIPATION OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE SECTOR. DART'S REALLY MAKING REAL ESTATE AVAILABLE AND THEN PARTICIPATING IN THE JOINT DEVELOPMENT WORK ITSELF. BUT BUILDING PERMITS, ZONING. PLANNING ALL OF THAT OF COURSE UH RESTS WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS A PALLADIUM AT BUCKNER STATION THAT PACKAGE WAS APPROVED IN MAY OF MAY 14 2025 107 MILLION DOLLAR DEVELOPMENT THERE WAS A 14 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLAR INCENTIVE PACKAGE AND THE A LOT OF BRIDGE LOANS, THERE'S A LOT GOING INTO THAT. DART SOLD 6.724 ACRES TO PALLADIUM FOR 3.01 MILLION BASED ON FAIR MARKET VALUE, AND THAT'S AN FTA REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THEY HAD AN INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY USING THAT PARTICULAR PROTOCOL. BUT THAT'S UNDERWAY, AND THAT WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. NEXT SLIDE. IT'S REALLY DETAILING THE PROGRAM THERE. 391 SURPLUS PARKING SPACES CONVERTING 304 UNITS, 244 OF WHICH WILL BE AT 60% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR AMI, 60 UNITS MARKET RATE. SO THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL COMPLEX AND BRINGS WITH IT QUITE A LOT OF AMENITIES. SWIMMING POOL, FITNESS CENTER, CONFERENCE CENTER, BUSINESS CENTER, KIDS PLAYROOM. THERE'S A GOOD DEAL THAT GOES INTO THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS BBL BUILDING COMPANY DESIGNED BY ARRIVE ARCHITECT GROUP. NEXT SLIDE, MOCKINGBIRD STATION. MOCKINGBIRD STATION, AS YOU ALL KNOW, HAS BEEN UNDER SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT FOR DECADES. AND THIS PARTICULAR INITIATIVE WAS ACTIVE IN THE 20, WHEN I WAS HERE AS CFO IN THE 2015-2016 AREA, SO IT'S TAKEN A WHILE TO GET THIS ONE ADVANCED TO THE POINT THAT IT FINALLY IS. THERE'S A DARK GARAGE HERE, 500 SPACES, COMPLETED SPRING OF 2027. BUDGET FOR THAT IS $32 MILLION. MULTIFAMILY, ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION, $123 MILLION, DEVELOPED 394 UNITS, EXPECTED DELIVERY END OF 2027. 20% IS AFFORDABLE AT 80% AMI. AND THAT IS A 99-YEAR GROUND LEASE TO TRAMMELL CROW. THAT WAS IN FEBRUARY 23, 2022. SO FEBRUARY 23, CITY OF DALLAS APPROVED $29 MILLION IN TIF FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT NO FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE DARK GARAGE ITSELF. WE CAN GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN ORDER TO SHORT-TERM FUTURE TOD OPPORTUNITIES. THERE'S ANY NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED. WESTMORELAND STATION, MLK STATION, 8TH AND CORINTH, PARK LANE, LBJ AT SKILLMAN, INWOOD AND LOVE FIELD. THERE'S A LOT OF STATIONS INSIDE THE CITY OF DALLAS, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES. INSIDE THE CITY OF DALLAS AS I SAY THAT'S ALWAYS A JOINT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE CITY AND FROM MY EXPERIENCE. IT'S BEST THE CITY LEAD THESE THINGS WHERE DART REALLY IS SUPPORTIVE BY VIRTUE OF BEING THE LANDOWNER WE MOVE TO AREA PLAN UPDATES YOU'VE BEEN SINCE 1920 OR 1920 23 THERE WAS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WITH MEMBER CITIES TO DEVELOP AREA PLANS. AND THIS KIND OF OUTLINES THE ASPIRATIONAL POINTS OF THIS ENHANCED COLLABORATION, IDENTIFY POTENTIAL PROJECTS, PRIORITIZE MUTUAL GOALS, AND OF COURSE, DEVELOP FUNDING AND IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGIES. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE AREA PLAN OPPORTUNITY TYPES ARE CATEGORIZED. AND, OF COURSE, THEY'RE AROUND MULTIMODAL CONNECTIVITY, PASSENGER FACILITY ENHANCEMENTS, BUS CORRIDORS, STREET INVESTMENTS, LAND USE, TOD. THERE'S A NUMBER OF AREAS WHERE WE CAN, IN FACT, BE COLLABORATIVE. MORE RECENTLY, BEFORE I REJOINED DART, I WAS ASSISTING DCTA IN THEIR DOWNTOWN LOUISVILLE FACILITY, WHICH IS DART-OWNED LAND ON THE EASEMENT. AND THEN DCTA IS RUNNING THE RAILROAD AND THEN THE ACREAGE FOR THE LOT IS GOING [00:30:02] TO BE DEVELOPED IN TOD. SO ANYWHERE THERE IS A PLATFORM, THERE'S USUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY IF THERE'S PARKING CONTIGUOUS TO IT. AREA PLANS, CITY OF DALLAS, THEY'RE IN THE PHASE 2 SCHEDULE. I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE IN THE NEXT SLIDE. PHASE 2 IS FOCUSED ON DEEPER DIVES AND WAS KICKED OFF THIS LAST SPRING. I'VE NOT BEEN... PERSONALLY, SO I'M RETICENT TO COMMENT ANY FURTHER ON THIS SLIDE OTHER THAN TO SAY IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE'S BEEN A NOTABLE AMOUNT OF WORK DONE AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S ONE THAT WILL HAVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL WORK GOING. AND THEN FINALLY, IF WE CAN TURN TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PFA. RANDALL, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT FIFA BEFORE I COMMENT? AS IT SAYS, COUNTING DOWN 24 DAYS, YOU ALL HAVE, OF COURSE, BEEN HEAVILY INVOLVED IN FIFA PLANNING. IT'S THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH YOUR POLICE FORCE AND THE CONVENTION CENTER, A VARIETY OF THINGS. FROM DART'S FOCUS, CLEARLY WE'VE BEEN VERY FOCUSED ON THE MOBILITY SOLUTION, GETTING FANS OVER TO THE STADIUM. WORKING IN CONCERT WITH TRINITY METRO AND ACTUALLY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF TRAIN CAPACITY, WORKING WITH AN AGENCY IN MINNESOTA, BRINGING SOME ADDITIONAL TRAIN SETS IN. MICHAEL MORRIS HAS BEEN LEADING THE EFFORT ON FUNDING A BUS LINK BETWEEN THE STADIUM ITSELF AND THEN CENTERPORT STADIUM. SO ALL OF OUR DIRECTION WILL BE TO MOVE PASSENGERS FROM DALLAS SIDE TO CENTERPORT WHERE THEY THEN WILL GET TRANSPORTED AT THE CENTERPORT STATION DOWN TO THE STADIUM TO I BELIEVE LOT 10 THAT'S WHERE THEY WILL RETURN AND COME BACK AND REVERSE THE ROUTE THERE'S A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE ON SETTING UP VOLUNTEERS AMBASSADORS WHO WILL IN FACT HAVE? SEPARATE T-SHIRTS AND BE EASILY IDENTIFIED AS BEING ASSOCIATED WITH FIFA. WE HAVE ALSO PUT TOGETHER UH... A SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL UH... MARKETING CAMPAIGN UH... THE WORKING WITH THE FOR WE HAVE CREATED A SPECIAL GOING PAST THAT'S A THREE AGENCY PASS IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE PEOPLE WEBSITE SO WHEN YOU GO FROM THE PEOPLE WEBSITE AND DROP DOWN UH... THE PASS IT GETS PRESENTED AS A PEOPLE PASS DESIGN SPECIALLY FOR THE EVENT AND IT'S A REGIONAL PASS THAT WILL GET THEM THE ATTENDEES USING IT ANYWHERE AMONG THE THREE AGENCIES AND IT'S A ONE DAY, THREE DAY AND SEVEN DAY OPTION FOR THAT. THERE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE CARDS, PASS CARDS THAT ARE COMMEMORATIVE. THERE'S EIGHT DIFFERENT TYPES SO THERE WILL BE A VARIETY OF WAYS WHERE WE'LL BE BRINGING VEFA ATTENTION TO, FROM DART AND TRINITY METRO BUT PARTICULARLY FROM DART. SECURITY, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IS UH VERY SIGNIFICANT CONSIDERATION AND ALSO ALTERNATIVE PLANNING IN THE EVENT OF DISRUPTIONS WE ESTIMATE THAT WE'LL PROBABLY CARRY 15 TO 20 000 FANS A DAY TO THE NINE EVENT DAYS AND OF COURSE THE BALANCE OF DAYS WILL BE AT FAIR PARK AND THERE WILL BE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF ACTION IN AND OUT THAT THE TIMING OF EVENTS AT FAIR PARK WILL DEPEND ON THE TIMING OF GAMES, SO IT WON'T BE THE SAME TIME BLOCK IN EVERY DAY, BUT THERE WILL BE DAILY ACTIVITY THERE AT THOSE GAMES. YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF FOCUS ON SECURITY. THE POLICE TEAMS HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY TOGETHER, AND THEN OF COURSE OUR OPERATIONS TEAM. HAS LOOKED VERY CLOSELY AT ALTERNATIVES IN THE EVENT WE DO HAVE PROBLEMS THE BIGGEST ONE THAT WOULD CONCERN US WOULD BE AT CENTERPORT ITSELF AND SO WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT OUR ALTERNATIVE SCENARIOS ARE ABSENT JUST PUTTING PEOPLE ON BUSES AND TAKING THEM A DIFFERENT ROUTE AND THE WEST IRVING STATION WOULD BE THE FALLBACK STATION IF SOMETHING CREATES A DISRUPTION THERE BUT THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF POINTING GOING ON TO TO AVOID EVERYTHING WE CAN THERE'S A LOT OF GAME GAME PLANNING GOING ON, A LOT OF SCENARIO SITUATION, A LOT OF TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON. OUR EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, TRENISE WINTERS, IS ACTUALLY AT THE MOBILITY CONFERENCE IN SALT LAKE CITY RIGHT NOW, AND THERE SHE WAS MEETING WITH THE OTHER TRANSIT EXECUTIVES TO GO OVER THEIR VARIOUS PLANS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED [00:35:03] STATES. SO WE FEEL WE'RE WELL POSITIONED, BUT WE KNOW THAT IT WILL BE A HEAVY LIFT. ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF JULY. AND WITH THAT, THIS PRESENTATION IS CONCLUDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST RECOGNIZE OUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE. OF COURSE. THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO RECOGNIZE OUR SECRETARY, CARMEN GARCIA, OUR PAST CHAIR, MICHELLE WONG-KRAUS, AND BOARD MEMBERS PATRICK KENNEDY, MAURICE WEST, MAUREEN MILLIGAN, AND ENRIQUE MCGREGOR. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I'LL START ON MY RIGHT. WITH ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS ITEM WITH BLAIR GRACIE COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN YOU CAN COUNT ON ME FOR QUESTIONS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I WONDER IF WE COULD START ON PAGE 8. THIS IS ABOUT THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS. HOW DO YOU VERIFY THE ACCURACY OF THESE NUMBERS? HOW DO WE COUNT RIDERS? HOW ARE THEY COLLECTED AND HOW ARE THEY VERIFIED TO BE ACCURATE? THEY'RE COUNTED DIFFERENT WAYS DEPENDING ON THE MODE. ON DEMAND, OF COURSE, THAT'S THE EASIEST BECAUSE YOU'RE CAPTURING IT BY EVENT, BY PERSON. ON THE BUS SYSTEM, THAT'S DONE BY PASSENGER APTS, AUTOMATED PASSENGER MONITORS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY SENSING PEOPLE BOARDING THE BUS, SO THAT'S AN AUTOMATED COLLECTION. SO A MOTION SENSOR? SO THAT'S THE WAY THOSE ARE CONFIRMED. ON THE COMMUTER RAIL SYSTEM, THAT'S ACTUALLY DONE. BY CONDUCTORS UH... THEY DO THEY WALK THE THE TRAIN ON THE ROUTE AND THEN THEY WERE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPORTING RIDERSHIP COUNTS ON THAT MODE AND THEN UH... LIGHT RAIL ALSO HAS A P T COUNTERS ON IT SO BASICALLY IT'S A COMBINATION OF A P T'S CONDUCTORS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE DRIVERS GETTING THE MAIN ONES. I CAN'T SPEAK TO STREETCAR. I WOULD ASSUME THERE'S AN APT IN THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT. SO IF A CONDUCTOR IS DOING THE COUNT, HOW DO THEY KNOW IF A PERSON'S GOTTEN ON OR OFF OR IF THEY'RE JUST RECOUNTING THE SAME PERSON? WELL, YOU HAVE TO RELY ON THE CONDUCTOR. I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT IN A FAIRLY CRISP PROCESS. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY COULD DOUBLE COUNT? I SUPPOSE IT'S POSSIBLE. AND IS THAT HOW IT'S HAPPENING ON THE SILVER LINE? THE CONDUCTOR IS PROVIDING THAT NUMBER TO YOU? ON THE SILVER LINE, RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THERE'S CONDUCTORS AND THERE'S POLICE AND THERE'S FAIR ENFORCEMENT, AND THEY'RE KIND OF DIVIDING UP THE RESPONSIBILITY. BUT THE INTENTION IS, OBVIOUSLY, TO DO A TRUE COUNT. AND NOT A DOUBLE COUNT AND OBVIOUSLY NOT MISS ANYONE. OKAY, SO STAYING ON PAGE 8, WHEN WE LOOK AT FISCAL YEAR 24, QUARTER 1, YOU'RE SHOWING A CERTAIN RIDERSHIP FOR LIGHT RAIL. WELL, WE'LL START WITH BUS. THE BUS IS HIGHER THAN QUARTER 01, FISCAL YEAR 26, AND FISCAL YEAR 25, BUS IS HIGHER THAN FISCAL YEAR 26, QUARTER 1. SO IF WE'RE JUST COMPARING SINCE. QUARTER 1-26 IS YOUR MOST RECENT AND YOU GO BACK AND YOU COMPARE QUARTER 1-25 AND 24 YOU HAVE LOWER BUS RIDERSHIP AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORANGE IT'S A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER TO MEASURE BUT I KNOW I JUST TOOK A LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER AND IN BOTH THOSE CASES THE RIDERSHIP FOR THE RAIL IS ALSO DOWN COMPARED TO THOSE TWO QUARTERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 AND 25. THAT'S RIGHT. SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK RIDERSHIP IS DOWN? IT'S KIND OF NOT HOW YOU PRESENTED IT, BUT... YEAH, LET ME GIVE YOU MY OBSERVATION. REMEMBER, I'M THE INTERIM, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THESE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS ARE TOO LOW. THEY'RE COUNTED PROPERLY, BUT THEY'RE TRENDING WRONG. I SAY THAT BECAUSE THE OTHER TWO SYSTEMS ARE TRENDING UP. SO, BY VIRTUE OF THAT, THEN WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, WHY IS IT THAT OUR SYSTEM IS FLAT OR TRENDING DOWN WHEN THE OTHER TWO AGENCIES IN THE SAME MARKET ARE TRENDING UP? THAT'S AN OBVIOUS QUESTION TO ME. AND THAT'S ONE THAT DESERVES AN ANSWER. YOU HAVE TO BREAK IT DOWN BY LOCATION, BY MODE, TO REALLY THINK THAT THROUGH. THE ONE AREA THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TREND IS UP IS ON DEMAND. THAT'S ALSO THE MOST POPULAR MODE IN THE EXURBAN AND SUBURBAN AREAS. BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, [00:40:01] IT'S A FAIR QUESTION, AND IT DESERVES MORE OF AN IN-DEPTH LOOK AT WHAT EXACTLY IS IT THAT'S CAUSING US TO BE FLAT. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT IS TRUE, AND YOU HAVE TO ASSOCIATE THIS, IS THAT IN-MIGRATION AND POPULATION GAIN ARE OFF COMPARED TO WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN, AND YOU PROBABLY READ THE THE REPORT OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT DALLAS COUNTY ACTUALLY BEING FLATTER, SLIGHTLY DOWN IN POPULATION. SO THAT HAS A BEARING COMPARED TO THE OUTER AGENCIES. BUT THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS. THEY DESERVE A BETTER ANSWER. AND IF YOU TOOK THIS CHART AND YOU WENT FURTHER OUT AND INCLUDED BEFORE COVID. WOULDN'T THIS SHOW SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER RIDERSHIP THAN BEFORE COVID? YES, CONSIDERABLY. SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO SIT AT LEAST WITH DCTA, WHO HAS REALLY WALKED THROUGH HOW THEY HAVE IMPROVED THEIR MODEL. THEY HAD VERY SIGNIFICANT RIDERSHIP ISSUES. THEY'VE TURNED THAT CORNER. NOW THEY'VE GOT FRISCO TALKING TO THEM. THEY STARTED A PARTNERSHIP. THEY'RE GROWING. THERE ARE CITIES THAT ARE TRYING TO JOIN, BUT THEY DID SOMETHING RADICALLY DIFFERENT. AND HOW THEY DETERMINE ROUTES IS RADICALLY DIFFERENT AND I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO TO AT LEAST LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND SEE IF IT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD SUPPORT I WILL TELL YOU THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING FOR THE SILVER LINE ARE NOT TRUE AND OF COURSE BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE SILVER LINE IS AT GRADE WE CAN SEE THE TRAINS GOING BY I HAVE SAT THERE SOMETIMES FOR A COUPLE HOURS AS I'M ON CALLS AND WATCHED THE EMPTY TRAINS GO BY. TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE PEOPLE ON THEM. AND BASED ON THE NUMBERS YOU'RE SHOWING, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE 55 OR 60 PEOPLE AVERAGE PER TRAIN. AND THAT INCLUDES THE ONES AFTER MIDNIGHT. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. SO HOWEVER YOU'RE COUNTING IT, YOU'RE COUNTING IT INACCURATELY. AND I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE MOTIVATED TO SHOW YOU HOW INCORRECT THEY ARE SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SELF-CORRECT WELL THAT'S A HARSH JUDGMENT BUT IT'S WARRANTED IF IF IT'S RIGHT SO I WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK INTO IT WELL I I THINK YOU SHOULD SIGNIFICANTLY LOOK AT THAT UM YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT RIDERSHIP NUMBERS TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CORRECT THAT'S CORRECT AND HOW OFTEN IS THAT AUDITED. WELL, WE DO A TRI-ANNUAL WHEN THAT INFORMATION IS LOOKED AT IN DEPTH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REVIEWED IS RIDERSHIP INFORMATION IN THAT, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN ANNUAL REPORT, NTD REPORT, THAT'S PRETTY SUBSTANTIALLY AND SPECIFICALLY SCRUTINIZED AT THE TIME. THEY'RE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN METHODOLOGY AND THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE COUNTED. SO IT'S LOOKED AT ANNUALLY AT NTD. IT'S LOOKED AT EVERY THREE YEARS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A MANAGEMENT REVIEW MANDATED BY OUR STATUTE THAT IS ALSO EVERY THREE YEARS. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THAT THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR REPORTING INCORRECT NUMBERS. HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED A CLOSED SYSTEM? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT? LET ME REFER THAT TO THE CHAIR. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I BELIEVE. IT WAS A SIX-MONTH REPORT THAT I SENT TO OUR BOARD AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS, U.S. COUNCIL MEMBERS, ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAD MADE IN MY FIRST SIX MONTHS AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD, AND IN THAT IT INCLUDED SPECIFICALLY THAT I HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR OPERATIONS, FINANCIAL, AND PLANNING DEPARTMENTS ON HOW WE COULD LOOK AT CLOSING THE SYSTEM. SO IT IS A PRIORITY OF MINE. MORE BROADER THAN THAT, SAFETY AND SECURITY IS A PRIORITY OF MINE. INCREASING OUR TSO CONTRACT. WE DISCUSSED THAT SPECIFICALLY LAST MONTH WHEN WE APPROVED THE ONE-YEAR EXTENSION. THAT WHEN WE WOULD GO OUT FOR A NEW BID FOR THE NEW CONTRACT THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS AS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, BACK TO THE QUESTION, YES, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE 66 LIGHT RAIL STATIONS. SOME ARE AERIAL, SOME AT-GRADE, SOME SUB-GRADE, SO IT WOULD TAKE A COMBINATION OF SOLUTIONS AND A VERY COMPLEX ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. BUT IT IS A PRIORITY OF MINE THAT I'VE DISCUSSED WITH EVEN DAVID AS THE INTERIM. PRESIDENT, CEO, AS WELL AS OUR STAFF, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER EXAMPLES OF OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE ONCE STARTED WITH AN OPEN SYSTEM AND THEN CLOSED THEIR SYSTEM. [00:45:02] WE ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY SITE VISITS AND WORKING WITH THOSE OTHER AGENCIES AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOU ALL JOINING US IF WE BRING THAT TO FRUITION. WELL, THANK YOU, RANDALL. I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THAT FOR A LONG TIME. I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH, AND PERHAPS YOU CAN'T DO THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AT ONCE. BUT AT LEAST STARTING WITH PLACES WHERE YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST CRIME IS A WAY TO PROVIDE SAFETY AND I THINK WOULD IMMEDIATELY IMPACT YOUR RIDERSHIP NUMBERS IN A POSITIVE WAY. AND I HOPE YOU'LL PURSUE IT AND I THINK YOU'D HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT, EVEN FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T RIDE DART, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE DO WANT IT TO BE SAFE. IS IT ACCURATE THAT THE SECURITY OFFICERS ARE UNARMED? THE POLICE ARE ARMED, IS THAT HOW THAT'S WORKING? I THINK I HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT I'M GOING TO LET THE GUY WHO I KNOW HAS THE ANSWER GIVE THE ANSWER. ALL OF THE SECURITY OFFICERS THAT WE CONTRACT WITH ARE LEVEL 3 SECURITY OFFICERS, SO THEY ARE ARMED WITH A FIREARM, PEPPER SPRAY, AND HANDCUFFS. I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING OFFLINE THEN. CAN YOU TELL US ON PAGE 15, YOU'VE GOT THE MODERN BUS SHELTERS WITH REAL-TIME INFORMATION. THAT IS GREAT. I DON'T SEE IN THE IMAGE, HOW ARE PEOPLE GETTING THE REAL-TIME INFORMATION? CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS? IT'S ON THE INSIDE. OKAY. YEAH, WHERE THE PASSENGERS NEED TO BE. AND SO IS THERE A DIGITAL DISPLAY? IS THERE AUDIO? IT'S DIGITAL, AND IT'S POWERED VIA SOLAR. SO IT'S ON THE INSIDE OF WHERE OUR PASSENGER WOULD BE AND IT SHOWS REAL-TIME UPDATES OF HOW LONG THE NEXT BUS WILL BE AWAY. SO MAYBE IF YOU COULD TAKE THE IMAGE FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION, THE PANEL COULD BE VISIBLE, IS THAT TRUE? LIKE IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PANEL FROM ONE WAY, THERE SEEMS TO BE A TRASH CAN RIGHT AFTER THE BUS STOP. IF WE WERE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE TRASH CAN VIEW, YOU WOULD SEE THE DISPLAY. YOU WOULD SEE IT? YES. SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A BETTER IMAGE FOR YOU. I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE NEW ONES THAT I'VE SEEN WITH THE PANEL, SO THAT'S GOOD. AND SO FOR PAGE 20, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS CHART FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, 24, AND 25, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S THE FULL FISCAL YEAR? NO, THAT'S FOR THE QUARTER. THAT'S JUST FOR THE QUARTER, FOR THE SECOND QUARTER. JUST FOR THE QUARTER. AND SO YOU'RE USING QUARTER TWO FOR EACH OF THOSE YEARS, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. IF I COULD, WE JUST MADE THIS REPORT AT DART LAST WEEK. THAT'S WHY WE INCLUDED IT IN THIS PRESENTATION HERE. AND WHAT IS YOUR FISCAL YEAR? WHEN DOES THAT BEGIN? OCTOBER 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 3RD. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN FOR 34, IS THERE ANY PART OF TRE THAT STILL HAS SINGLE TRACK, OR HAS IT ALL BEEN DOUBLE TRACKED AT THIS POINT? TRE HAS A FAIRLY CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF SINGLE TRACK OVER ON THE TARRANT COUNTY SIDE AND THEY'RE WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH DOUBLE TRACKING BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A PROJECT RIGHT NOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL NUMBER, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW LONG IT IS BUT MAYBE A COUPLE MILES. BUT WE HAVE DOUBLE TRACKING THROUGHOUT ON THE DALLAS COUNTY SIDE BUT IT'S NOT CONTINUOUS ON THE TARRANT COUNTY SIDE. IF I COULD UH MISS MENTAL SYMPATHY IF I COULD LOOP BACK TO THE CLOSED SYSTEM FOR JUST A MINUTE RANDALL AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND I'VE MADE SURE I'VE LET HIM KNOW THAT WE'RE CERTAINLY ENGAGED IN ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT NOT WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OF COURSE I HAD TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE CITY IS THAT PUBLIC SIDEWALKS ARE RIGHT AWAY THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF COURSE AND SO THE SOLUTIONS TO THESE VARIOUS LOCATIONS IS GOING TO TAKE CLOSE COORDINATION WITH THE CITY TO HOW TO ADDRESS CLOSING WITH WITH AND STILL ALLOW PASSENGER TRAFFIC IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS THERE ARE WAYS TO DO IT I'M NOT SUGGESTING ANYTHING DIFFERENT OTHER THAN I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IN EVERY INSTANCE PARTICULARLY DOWNTOWN WE'LL HAVE TO COME TO YOU WITH A FAIRLY SPECIFIC GRAPHIC ABOUT WHAT THE OPTIONS MIGHT BE FOR HOW TO ADDRESS THAT CLOSE A PLATFORM BUT ALSO PERMIT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS MR. LANGER I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THE WEST END STATION IF THAT COULD BE CLOSED ALONE WE WOULD GREATLY REDUCE CRIME IN DOWNTOWN DALLAS SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT VERY HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU WORK WITH YOU ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE ANY KIND OF AMENDMENT YOU NEED BUT WE NEED THAT DO WE KNOW THANK YOU ON SLIDE 48 YOU HAVE EMPLOYEE ASSAULTS BY OCCUPATION SO YOU'RE SHOWING 29 CAN, AND THIS IS CALENDAR YEAR TODAY, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S FROM JANUARY 1 TO MARCH [00:50:02] 31ST. THROUGH MARCH, OH MY GOODNESS, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE THROUGH APRIL. SO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 10 EMPLOYEES. EVERY MONTH BEING ASSAULTED. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN, THE BUS OPERATORS LEAD THAT CATEGORY. THEY'VE HAD 13 ASSAULTS ON BUS OPERATORS. SIX OF THOSE ARE JUST THREATS ONLY. IT'S NON-PHYSICAL. SOMEBODY THREATENED THEM AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE A REPORT IN TEXAS. YOU CAN DO THAT, AND IF THEY REQUEST THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. TWO WERE CLASS B MISDEMEANORS WHERE THERE WAS PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH NO INJURY. ONE WAS A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR. SO NINE OF THOSE 13. EIGHT OF THOSE 13 DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ANY PHYSICAL INJURY WHATSOEVER. RIGHT, THEY'RE JUST BEING THREATENED. WELL, I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST SAYING WE LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE THING AND WE TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS INTO ACCOUNT. WHAT KIND OF SECURITY DOES A BUS OPERATOR GET? ARE ANY OF THE EMPLOYEES ALLOWED TO CARRY ANY SORT OF SELF-DEFENSE? PEPPER SPRAY? TASER? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO BE ARMED? HOW DOES THAT WORK? MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE POLICY IS NO, NO EMPLOYEE MAY BE ARMED. I'M SORRY? NO EMPLOYEE MAY BE ARMED ON DARK PROPERTY. AND DOES THAT INCLUDE PEPPER SPRAY? PEPPER SPRAY, TASERS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, NO. AND IS THAT IN KEEPING WITH TEXAS STATUTE? THAT IS THE POLICY QUESTION. I GUESS I'M YOUR POLICY GUY. I'VE NEVER REVIEWED A POLICY SUCH AS THIS. I THINK WE'VE, IN THE PAST MAYBE YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF, SEEN AN EVENT WHERE A DRIVER EXITED THE VEHICLE AND GOT INTO AN ALTERCATION WITH A MINOR. AND SO I'D BE VERY LEERY OF IT. I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION OF HOW WE PROTECT THE OPERATORS VERSUS HOW DO WE DEFEND. LIKE ARM THE OPERATORS. I THINK THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS. WELL, I HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER AT LEAST ALLOWING THE OPERATORS BOTH FOR BUS AND THE CONDUCTORS. BUT THAT'S NOT JUST, I MEAN, SECURITY OFFICERS OBVIOUSLY ARE CARRYING PEPPER SPRAY AND WEAPONS. BUT CLEANING CREW, TWO OF THEM, THEY MIGHT NEED PEPPER SPRAY. AND I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DALLAS ARE ARMED. A LOT OF THEM. YES, WE KNOW. I KNOW. AND YOU'RE JUST PUTTING PEOPLE IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION IF YOU'RE NOT ALLOWING THAT. SO I JUST WANTED, MY LAST ITEM, CHAIR, IS ON 43, THIS IS BACK TO RIDERSHIP. I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW YOU'VE GONE SORT OF MONTH BY MONTH ON THIS AND, AGAIN, IS SHOWING THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS SO MUCH LESS THAN WHAT IT HAD BEEN JUST EVEN A YEAR AGO. CONSISTENTLY YOU'RE AT 4.7 MILLION FOR THREE MONTHS, YOU WENT TO 4.4, BACK TO 4.5, BACK UP TO 4.7, 5.4, 4.3, 4.5, AND YOU'RE JUST CLIMBING BACK UP TO 4.5. SO I JUST WANT TO AGAIN ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE TALK TO THE OTHER TRANSIT AGENCIES IN OUR AREA WHO SEEM TO HAVE FIGURED SOMETHING OUT THAT IS INCREASING THEIR RIDERSHIP NUMBERS. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR ROTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS REALLY INFORMATIVE FOR ME ALSO TO LEARN ABOUT THIS. I DID HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON SORT OF GENERAL QUESTIONS ON THE LINES, THE WESTMORELAND LINE. IS THAT THE LINE CONSIDERED THAT GOES BY THE VETERANS HOSPITAL? WESTMORELAND? YEAH. WESTMORELAND IS ON THE RED LINE. THE VETERANS HOSPITAL IS ON THE BLUE LINE. SO THE VETERANS HOSPITAL IS NOT ONE OF THE MORE DOMINANT ROUTES FOR BUSES OR FOR ANY TRANSIT? I DIDN'T SEE VETERANS HOSPITAL ON THERE. IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF TRAFFIC. TO THAT FACILITY FROM DART IT'S IT'S NOT ONE OF THE HIGHEST WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THE MEMBERSHIP AGAIN IT'S NOT A CRIT IT'S NOT A CRITICISM JUST I'M ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED THAT I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A AN OPPORTUNISTIC UH ROUTE FOR BOTH BUS AND AND UH IN LIGHT RAIL UM THE UH HOW DO YOU ALL ACTUALLY REGULATE YOUR ENFORCEMENT UM FOR THE FOR THE THE SYSTEM IN OTHER WORDS DO YOU HAVE UH PATROL PEOPLE ON THE ON THE UH THE BUS [00:55:01] IS PERIODIC PRIMARILY IT'S ON THE RAIL LINES, BUT DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE RIDING THOSE OR ON REGULAR CALLS SO THAT THERE'S A VISIBILITY AS WELL AS A AS A PROACTIVE ENGAGEMENT WITH PEOPLE OR IS IT REALLY A RESPONSE TO? YOUR PARTICULAR CALLS TYPICALLY SO WE TRACK CRIME AND EVERY 15 DAYS WE MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO OUR DEPLOYMENT BASED ON THAT. SINCE MOST OF OUR ISSUES OCCUR, TWO-THIRDS OF OUR OFFENSES OCCUR ON A TRAIN OR TRAIN PLATFORM, THAT'S WHERE THE BULK OF OUR RESOURCES ARE ALLOCATED. BUT WE DO, ON OCCASION, IF WE SEE A TREND ANALYSIS ON A CERTAIN ROUTE, WE WILL ASSIGN A TRANS-SECURITY OFFICER OR A POLICE OFFICER TO JUST FOLLOW THE BUS AS IT'S MAKING ITS RUN, OR EVEN A FIRE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER ON BOARD THE VEHICLE. SO WE DO THAT, BUT IT'S JUST NOT EVERY DAY. WE DO IT AS WHAT WE SEE AS A CRIMINAL TREND OR AN AS-NEEDED BASIS. HAS THERE BEEN ANY PLANS TO INCREASE THE VISIBILITY AND THE ACTUAL ON-TRAIN OR ON-BUS SITE PRESENCE DURING THE WORLD CUP, SIX WEEKS OF THE WORLD CUP, SO THAT PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN, THEY'RE HERE TO HAVE A VISIBLE AND NOTICEABLE, NOT ONLY PRESENCE OF A POLICE OFFICER, BUT ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE GUIDANCE, TO HAVE ASSISTANCE, TO SORT OF BE ABLE TO MANEUVER THROUGH THE PROCESS. YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SECURITY PLAN THAT INCLUDES HAVING ENHANCED THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS. I CANCELED ALL DAYS OFF FOR THE SIX WEEKS. I CANCELED THEM LAST YEAR. NOBODY CAN TAKE ANY VACATION OR TIME OFF. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE, THOSE NINE GAME DAYS FOR SURE, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE WORKING. BUT WE ALSO HAVE A CREW OF VOLUNTEERS WITHIN THE AGENCY OF DART AND SOME FIFA VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE TO HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE THE SYSTEM, ANSWER QUESTIONS. WE'VE EVEN ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH OUR BODY-WORN CAMERA VENDOR TO HAVE A TRANSLATOR ON A MECHANISM ADDED TO OUR BODY CAMERAS THAT WILL HAVE 18 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. AND SO WE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE IN VARIOUS LANGUAGES. IF THEY JUST SPEAK TO OUR BODY CAMERA, IT'LL TRANSLATE FOR THE OFFICER. SO WE'RE... WE'RE PREPARED FOR THE INTERNATIONAL VISITS. I WAS HERE, I WAS A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER IN 1994 WHEN FIFA CAME THE LAST TIME. I CAN SAY FOR SURE WE'RE MUCH BETTER PREPARED THIS TIME THAN WE WERE THEN. IN 1994 THERE WASN'T AS MUCH TRAFFIC. THE OTHER THING IS, AS FAR AS THE PARKING LOTS AND THE AREAS AROUND THE STATIONS, IS THERE ANY KIND OF ENHANCED SECURITY PLANNED FOR SUPERVISING? POTENTIAL ISSUES WITH PEOPLE PARKING AROUND THERE, MAKING SURE THE LIGHTING IS ON, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE CLEAN, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S POLICE AND EMPLOYEE PRESENCE IN THE LOTS, SO THAT THERE'S A SENSE OF SECURITY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ONLY LOCALLY, BUT ALSO PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT MAY BE PARKING CARS, MAY BE UH TRYING TO TO TO ACCESS THE PLACE THROUGH THROUGH OTHER MEANS YES SIR OUR COMPREHENSIVE SECURITY STRATEGY IT ALSO TAKES A LOOK AT THOSE PARKING LOTS ESPECIALLY THE ONES WE BELIEVE WILL BE HEAVILY USED FOR PARK AND RIDE OPPORTUNITIES SO IT IS PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE SECURITY STRATEGY ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE OTHER PEOPLE ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT FOR EXTRA AND YOU HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS TO DO THAT WITH YES CANCELING THE DAYS OFF, I'M GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO COVER ALL THE THINGS I NEED TO DO. NOT VERY POPULAR, BUT I'M GOING TO GET THE JOB DONE. AS FAR AS THE TRANSIT AREA DEVELOPMENT AREAS, WHEN YOU'RE OFFERING UP EXTRA LAND, IS THE LAND THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED AROUND THE TRANSIT AREA IN A DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT DARK PROPERTY? AND THEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE DOING THERE AND THE DEVELOPERS THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH. ARE YOU ENCOURAGING THEM, ARE YOU FORCING THEM, ARE YOU CREATING THE REQUIREMENT TO PRODUCE AS PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT ADDITIONAL SECURITY, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE DART'S SECURITY, SAFETY, CLEANLINESS, OPPORTUNITY TO IN SOME CASE ALLOW THEM TO, SINCE THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR OF OUR ABILITY TO PRODUCE PEOPLE THERE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE AN ENHANCED SECURITY, CLEANLINESS, LANDSCAPING, WHATEVER IT IS, TO BENEFIT DART IN SORT OF AN IN-KIND. CONTRIBUTION OR MONETARY CONTRIBUTION? QUICK ANSWER. IN MOST CASES THE DEVELOPMENT [01:00:02] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PARKING LOTS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE BECAUSE THEY'RE SURPLUS. AND THEY'RE EITHER BEING LEASED ON A LONG-TERM LEASE OR THEY'RE BEING SOLD. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS WHERE THE CITY WEIGHS IN, THE PLANS FOR THE PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AND THE SURROUNDS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT REALLY ARE PART OF THE PLANNING PROCESS AND THE ZONING AND BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS. SO IN THAT, THAT'S THE INSTANCE WHERE THERE'S AN INTERSECTION BETWEEN WHAT DART WOULD LIKE TO DO TO ENHANCE ITS SAFETY AND SECURITY AND WHAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE RELATIVE TO THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S THE POINT IN TIME WHERE THAT WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. AND IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, I BELIEVE IT WAS BACK IN JANUARY, THE DART BOARD CHAIR, SORRY, THE CHAIR FOR THE COMMITTEE OF DEVELOPMENT INNOVATION, PATRICK KENNEDY, ALONG WITH CAITLIN HOLLAND FROM OUR STAFF, CAME HERE AND PRESENTED TO THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION ON WHERE WE WERE AS AN AGENCY AND WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH CAME ABOUT THROUGH A CONVERSATION THAT THE CHAIR, BRENT RUBIN, AND I HAD ON HOW WE CAN ADVANCE. NOT JUST TODS IN THE CITY, BUT HOW CAN WE ADVANCE THEM QUICKLY? AND I THINK WHAT I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU ALL TODAY IS THAT WE'D BE ENCOURAGED TO MOVE THAT PROCESS ALONG AND SEND THOSE COMMENTS TO YOUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE WE INTEND TO COME BACK AND FURTHER THOSE CONVERSATIONS SO THAT WE CAN CUT THROUGH ALL THE BUREAUCRACY AND THE RED TAPE AND WHATEVER IS STANDING IN THE WAY OF US AT WARP SPEED MOVING THESE PROJECTS THROUGH. MY LAST QUESTION IS ON THE 2025 BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL. I SEE THAT THERE'S A SHORTFALL BETWEEN THE REVENUE AND EXPENSES, AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE BUDGET, IT'S A, THERE'S SEVERAL, I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE BILLIONS OR IF THOSE ARE MILLIONS, BUT THE EXPENSES OVER REVENUES IS HIGHER. IS THERE, HOW DO YOU MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE? WHICH LOT ARE YOU ON? 68. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T PRINT THE APPENDIX TO COME DOWN HERE WITH IT. I'M SORRY. IT'S OKAY. AND AGAIN. IS IT ON THE AGENCY OR IS IT ON TRE? IT'S IN THE APPENDIX OF YEAR-END REVENUES AND BUDGET REVENUES AND ACTUAL REVENUES. IT'S MILLIONS. IT'S MILLIONS, YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT THIS YEAR IS GOING TO ACTUALLY END UP IN A POSITIVE POSITION. SALES TAX ARE ACTUALLY OUTPERFORMING. AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST SINGLE CONTRIBUTOR TO THE AGENCY. FARES ARE BASICALLY ABOUT WHERE THEY WERE, SLIGHTLY DOWN, BUT IT WOULD BE HARD TO IMAGINE, BASED ON THE NUMBERS I'VE LOOKED AT INTERNALLY, THAT WE WOULDN'T COME OUT WITH A POSITIVE BALANCE AT YEAR-END COMPARED TO BUDGET. OKAY. AGAIN, MAYBE OFFLINE WE COULD TALK ABOUT. HOW DOES THE NUMBERS WORK AND WHERE DO YOU GET IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE SPENDING MORE THAN WE'RE AND WE'RE COMING IN SO WE JUST WANT TO YEAH I'D BE HAPPY TO SCHEDULE THAT THAT'D BE GREAT THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER CADENA I JUST WANT TO THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR WORK ESPECIALLY WITH THE ELECTION OUTCOMES I KNOW THAT IT TOOK A LOT TO GET US ACROSS THE FINISH LINE BUT I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING AND ESPECIALLY AS I LOOK AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT IMPACT MY DISTRICT THERE ARE SOME OF THE TOP RIDERS FOR GO LINK I SAW THE WEST ALL CIRCUIT ON THERE AND THEN MY BACHMAN STATION AS WELL SO I KNOW THAT THAT WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY IMPACTED MY RESIDENTS SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN HI AND TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT MS CADENA SAID YES CONGRATULATIONS ON KEEPING THE SYSTEM INTACT AND I HOPE YOU'RE GOING TO GO GROW THE SYSTEM BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED. SO REAL QUICK, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT IN A MATTER OF TIME, I NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRE, THEY'RE VOTING ON DOUBLE TRACKING IT IN TARRANT COUNTY, AND YOU'VE TALKED, AND AS YOU, AS I SEE RIGHT HERE, THERE'S A BUS, RIGHT, DURING THE FIFA WORLD CUP. ARE Y'ALL GOING TO COLLECT DATA IN ORDER, OR CAN YOU? I MEAN, I HOPE YOU DO COLLECT IT. BECAUSE WE NEED TO STATE THE CASE OF WHY THIS ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE VERSUS BUILDING A NEW LIGHT RAIL THAT'S ALL OVER THROUGH BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER SET OF MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE BUT IT COULD BE A BETTER INVESTMENT TO CONNECT THE TWO VIA A A CONNECTION POINT AND I THINK DATA IS IN ANECDOTAL DATA HAVE PEOPLE COMMENT THAT IT WAS EASY OR HARD OR WHATNOT BUT ALSO RIDERSHIP BECAUSE THIS IS ABOUT [01:05:01] DOLLARS AND CENTS NOW AND I THINK IF WE HAD A PROOF POINT IT WOULD PROBABLY HELP IN THE LONG RUN WITH THAT CONVERSATION THE THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF DATA WILL BE COLLECTED ON THE RAIL SYSTEM THE BUS SYSTEM FROM THEY'LL TAKE THEM FROM CENTERPORT TO THE STADIUM IS ACTUALLY A PRIVATE BUS CONTRACT WITH THE RTC. AND I KNOW THAT THEY WILL ALSO BE COUNTING INFORMATION SEPARATELY. YOU CAN RECONCILE TO SEE WHO MAYBE TOOK OVER. ACTUALLY, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WAIT TIMES ARE ON THE PLATFORMS. THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO ARRIVING, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DELIVERING 1,000 TO 01,200 PEOPLE. EACH TIME A TRAIN ARRIVES AND SO THE BUSES HAVE GOT TO BE THERE IN SUFFICIENT QUANTITY TO PICK THEM UP AND MOVE THEM OUT. SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DATA COLLECTED BUT I JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THE BUSES THAT ARE ACTUALLY TAKING THEM TO THE STADIUM ARE ACTUALLY NOT OURS OR TRINITY METRO'S. THEY'RE MANAGED BY A CONTRACT WITH COD. AND SO I JUST THINK THAT IS MAYBE A GOOD DATA POINT IN OUR CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT WE DO WITH TRE CONNECTING DOWN TO THE STADIUM AND FUTURE EVENTS. SECONDLY, CATO, GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE HOT SPOTS FOR, I'M LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT DRUG USE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE THE BIGGEST ONE THAT KEEPS TRENDING UPWARD. DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THOSE ARE? YES, WE TRACK THOSE. WE KNOW THE CONCENTRATION OF WHERE WE TAKE THOSE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE MAP. MAYBE IT'S IN THE APPENDIX. BUT... I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR MOBILE MAT UNITS AND NARCAN AND TRYING TO WORK WITH. AND SO ARE YOU REPORTING THOSE AS WELL? YES. OKAY, GOOD. I KNEW THAT WE HAD TALKED. AND I GUESS THE THING, TOO, IS HOW CAN WE HELP YOU? BECAUSE IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE YOUR RIDERSHIP, SOMETIMES IT IS ABOUT PERCEPTION, AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF THOSE. AND IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP. ON THAT SIDE WITH DRUG OVERDOSE, DRUG PERFORNALIA, I GUESS IN OUR OWN HOUSE I NOTICED THAT Y'ALL WERE MAKING CONNECTIONS. THAT GIVES BACK TO THAT PERCEPTION OF SAFETY. AND SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE ARE A PARTNER IN THIS AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SUCCEED THEN WE SUCCEED. AND WITH GAS GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN WORK ON IS GIVING FOLKS AN ALTERNATIVE TO GETTING IN THEIR CAR AND DRIVING AND THEN NEVER LEAVING AND STAYING ON DART. SO HOWEVER WE CAN HELP YOU, JUST LET US KNOW. AND I KNOW WE'RE OVERDUE FOR A TASK FORCE, STRIKE FORCE, OPIOID STRIKE FORCE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SOME OTHER STUFF, BUT WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK LATER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. BLACKMAN. SO, CHAIR LEININGER, DO YOU, WITH REFERENCE TO SLIDE SIX, THE DART RTC SALES TAX CONTRIBUTION TABLE, OBVIOUSLY HIGHLAND PARK WILL NOT BE CONTRIBUTING IN THOSE FUTURE YEARS TO THE SALES TAX REVENUES. DO THOSE NUMBERS INCLUDE HIGHLAND PARK IN THIS TABLE, OR WERE THEY ADJUSTED TO? ELIMINATE THE HIGHLAND PARK CONTRIBUTION. THESE NUMBERS SHOULD EXCLUDE, THERE'S THREE THEY'RE EXCLUDED, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SALES TAX, THE 360 MILLION? I WANT TO CORRECT, I WANT TO BE CORRECT ON THIS. OKAY, YEAH, WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO BE EXCLUDED. I CAN TELL YOU IN THE FIRST YEAR IT ADDS UP TO ABOUT A MILLION SIX, ALMOST A MILLION SEVEN. NOW I SHOULD SAY THAT THOSE EXCLUSIONS JUST REVERT BACK TO DART, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION NOW THAT WE'VE CONFIRMED, THEY'RE NOT TAKEN OUT OF THESE NUMBERS YET. AND DID THOSE TOTAL ABOUT $7 MILLION? IS THAT MY RECOLLECTION CORRECT ABOUT THAT? OVER TIME. I BELIEVE SO. YES. THROUGH 2031, IT WOULD BE IN THE $8 MILLION TO $10 MILLION RANGE. OKAY. AND WILL THE DECISION BY THE THREE CITIES NOT TO ENTER INTO THE ILA AND THEREFORE WILL NOT BE RECEIVING GMP REBATES, WILL THAT MAKE UP FOR THE LACK OF HIGHLAND PARK SALES TAX CONTRIBUTION IN TERMS OF YOUR COFFERS? DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS FIRST? IF I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION I WOULD SAY NO UM BECAUSE NUMBER ONE UH THE ILA THE FUNDS THAT WOULD NO LONGER [01:10:01] BE A PART OF THE 360 OR THE 434 WHICHEVER ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT DOESN'T HAVE IT I'M GOING TO USE THE TWO CITIES FIRST THAT ARE STILL WITHIN DART ADDISON AND UP UM BASED UPON THE AGREEMENT UM THE FUNDS WOULD GO BACK TO OUR GENERAL FUND SO THEY WOULD NOT BE A PART OF OF THE MATRIX ANY LONGER AT ALL. AND THEN... WE WOULD NOT BE RECEIVING THE SALES TAXES FROM HP THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS ANY LONGER EITHER. SO IF I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY CHANGES OR THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY HINDRANCE TO DALLAS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW WITH THOSE. NO, I'M NOT NECESSARILY JUST SPEAKING FROM DALLAS' PERSPECTIVE. I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM YOUR REVENUE PERSPECTIVE. AS A RESULT OF THE LOSS OF SALES TAX REVENUE FROM HIGHLAND PARK, WILL THAT BE MADE UP IN TERMS OF THE MONEY THAT YOU WON'T HAVE TO REBATE BACK TO THE THREE CITIES THAT DIDN'T ENTER? WILL THEY COUNSEL EACH OTHER OUT, ESSENTIALLY, IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? I DON'T THINK WE'VE RAN THE HARD NUMBERS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, EVEN WITH HIGHLAND PARK, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A SERIES OF POLICY VOTES TO DETERMINE WHAT THEIR FINAL DEBT NUMBER IS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ESSENTIALLY COUNSEL EACH OTHER OUT TO A ZERO SUM, BUT IN A LEDGER BALANCING MANEUVER, YES, WE'RE NO LONGER EXPENDING OUT THOSE SALES TAX DOLLARS IN A REALLOCATION TO THOSE CITIES BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T AGREE TO THE ILA. THEY'RE NOW IN OUR GENERAL FUND. YES, WE ARE LOSING REVENUE, BUT WE'RE ALSO NOT PROVIDING SERVICES IN HIGHLAND PARK EITHER. OKAY. AND JUST TO ADD ON A MINUTE, WE'RE ALSO OF COURSE CONTINUING TO RECEIVE SALES TAX FROM HIGHLAND PARK. YES, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. FOR THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS. SO WE'VE GOT TO FACTOR HOW THAT ACTUALLY IS GETTING TREATED AS WELL AND RECOGNIZED. WE'VE GOT TO RECONCILE THAT HERE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY CAN ACTUALLY TELL THEM WHEN THEY CAN ACTUALLY DISCONTINUE. HAVING TO CONTRIBUTE INTO DARK OKAY WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS QUESTIONS AND I'LL START WITH NONCOMMITTEE MEMBERS UH... COUNCILMAN WEST YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY CHAIRMAN UH... JUST WANT TO FOCUS ON UH... WHERE MISTER ROTH LEFT OFF ON SOME OF THE T O D QUESTIONS UH... SO I WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT'S IN HERE AND I I PERSONALLY BELIEVE IF WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE LIVING BY THE STATIONS. IT'S GOING TO HELP WITH RIDERSHIP, AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO HELP WITH PUBLIC SAFETY. SO, CHAIRMAN BRYANT, YOU MENTIONED THAT WE, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHERE YOU GUYS ARE AT IN YOUR PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THESE SIX STATIONS? AND I KNOW YOU'RE WAITING ON US FOR ZONING, SO WHERE ARE YOU GUYS AT IN THE PROCESS? WHICH SIX? I'M LOOKING ON SLIDE 27 SO THOSE ARE I GUESS THE ONES HIGHLIGHTED WESTMORELAND MLK 8TH AND CORINTH AND THEN THREE MORE WHILE THEY'RE COMING DOWN WE HAVE A WE HAVE A FULL MATRIX OF ALL OF OUR STATIONS IN PARTICULAR THEN WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY LAND THAT'S NOT ADJACENT TO STATIONS LIKE THE SOCCER COMPLEX THAT WE'RE DOING. YEAH. RIGHT. SO, BUT FOR ALL OF OUR STATIONS, THERE'S A MATRIX OF KIND OF WHAT'S THE DEVELOPABLE POTENTIAL, WHAT'S THE SIZE OF IT AND WHATNOT. MAYBE, I THINK HE'S ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THESE, WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS FOR THESE. WELL, GENERALLY, LIKE WHERE ARE YOU AT IN THE PLANS AND WHAT I'M GETTING AT, JUST SO I CAN HELP YOU OUT HERE, IS I WANT TO KNOW. WHEN YOU GET TO THE POINT YOU'RE AT A BOTTLENECK BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT CAUGHT UP ON CODE REFORM? YEAH, I'M NOT AWARE OF WHERE THE ZONING IS. I KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW ON PUTTING TOGETHER A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CITY ON THE SIX SITES AND HOW TO APPROACH THE SOLICITATION AND PUT THOSE PACKAGES TOGETHER. I THINK DURING THAT PROCESS IS WHEN WE'D WANT TO START MAKING SURE THE ZONING STARTS TO GET PUT INTO PLACE SO THAT THE SITES ARE READY TO GO. OKAY, SO IF YOU'RE ALREADY IN DISCUSSIONS ON... LIKE THE CONCEPTUAL PROJECTS, WE'RE PROBABLY BEHIND IF WE HAVEN'T STARTED LOOKING AT THE ZONING YET. YEAH, I DON'T THINK THE CONCEPTUAL PROJECTS ARE IN PROCESS YET. IT'S REALLY FOCUSING ON THE MOU AND HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH PUTTING THE RFPS TOGETHER TO GET THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS FOR THOSE. DO YOU ENVISION DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN YOU'VE DONE AT PALLADIUM? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ONE'S A PRETTY RECENT EXAMPLE. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT SPECIFICALLY, AND I WISH CAITLIN HOLLAND WAS HERE, OUR VICE PRESIDENT OF REAL ESTATE. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO DO AN RFP AND SEE WHO WANTS TO COME FORWARD WITH A GOOD SOLUTION FOR DEVELOPMENT. YOU PLAN TO DO THE SIX THAT YOU'VE LISTED ON SLIDE 27 AT THE SAME TIME OR ROUGHLY THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS? I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT, TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH THE MOU AND LAY OUT WHAT PRIORITIES THEY WOULD BE IN. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL ALL GO FORWARD AT THE SAME TIME. I KNOW WE DID THAT IN THE PAST WITH THE PRIOR SITES. WE WENT OUT WITH AN RFP FOR MANY, AND SOME GOT DROPPED [01:15:01] ALONG THE WAY. SO I THINK WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE PHASING OF THAT, AND IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO ALL AT ONCE, WE CAN. OKAY. I GUESS WE CAN JUST FOLLOW UP THEN WITH STAFF TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH CODE REFORM. AND IF THIS IS... THE THIS PARTICULAR ELEMENT WITHIN CODE REFORM CAN WAIT A YEAR YEAR AND A HALF UNTIL WE GET THERE OR IF WE NEED TO SPEED IT UP THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNSON ANY QUESTIONS NO OKAY UH ANYBODY WITH A SECOND ROUND QUESTION OKAY WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND ALL OF YOUR BOARD MEMBERS' ATTENDANCE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WILL BE ITEM WHICH IS THE DART BOARD APPOINTEE CANDIDATE INTERVIEWS. SO I WOULD ASK THE TWO OF YOU INVOLVED IN THOSE INTERVIEWS TO STAY TUNED AND COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM. SO, DART BOARD MEMBERS GARCIA AND MILLIGAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. YOUR TERMS ARE SOON COMING TO AN END, AND YOU HAVE BOTH APPLIED TO RENEW YOUR MEMBERSHIP ON THE DART BOARD. COULD YOU GIVE EACH A TWO-MINUTE? ADDRESS AS TO WHY YOU WANT TO BE REAPPOINTED TO THE DART BOARD, PERHAPS TOUCHING ON YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS TO DATE AND YOUR PHILOSOPHIES OF SERVICE ON THE DART BOARD GOING FORWARD. MS. GARCIA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE HERE TODAY. I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY. I SENT A LETTER TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ABOUT THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT I'VE MADE SINCE I'VE BEEN SERVING ON THIS BOARD. INDEED AN HONOR TO SERVE ON THE DART BOARD I CAME IN IN 2022 THERE WAS A VACANCY DOMINIQUE TORRES WAS PART OF THAT TERM AND SHE ENDED HER TERM SO I SERVED THE REST OF HER TERM AND NOW I'VE SERVED TWO ADDITIONAL TERMS SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY AS YOU'VE HEARD TODAY FROM OUR TEAM WE'VE GOT A LOT TO DO WE HAVE A LOT TO DO WE'VE DONE A LOT BUT AS PART OF THIS BOARD IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SIT AT THE TABLE AND RESPECTFULLY LOOK AT THE CITY OF DALLAS AND HOW CAN WE MAKE SOME THE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE HERE REPRESENTING THE CITY OF DALLAS AND I THINK WE'VE MADE QUITE A NUMBER OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS NOT BY MYSELF BUT WITH MY COLLEAGUES HERE BECAUSE WE WORK TOGETHER WE WE STRIVE TO ACHIEVE THE STRATEGIC GOALS THAT WE'VE SET FOR THE AGENCY FROM AN OVERALL PERSPECTIVE FROM A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND BASICALLY, YOU'VE HEARD TODAY SERVICE DELIVERY IS QUITE IMPORTANT. SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE, OF COURSE, AND SAFETY AND SECURITY AND OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. YOU HEARD TODAY ABOUT OUR TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. INNOVATION. WE'VE GOT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CREATIVE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND I THINK THAT AS WE SIT AT THE TABLE, BRING IN NEW MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD AND SIT DOWN AND COLLABORATIVELY THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE COULD DO BETTER WITH, I SEE THAT THAT HAS REALLY BEEN WE CAN'T DO IT BY OURSELVES. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO THINK OUTSIDE OF OUR OWN SPACE AND WORK WITH EACH OTHER. SO I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN. I'M NOW CURRENTLY THE BOARD SECRETARY AND I'VE CHAIRED THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. I SERVE ON VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE CITY, THE GREATER DALLAS PLANNING COUNCIL. I WAS A PRESIDENT AND NOW I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE GREATER DALLAS PLANNING COUNCIL AND JUST VARIOUS OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. MY PASSION IS TO PROVIDE THE BEST EDUCATION FOR ALL OF OUR STUDENTS. BE WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE TO LISTEN AND HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN BRING IT TO THE TABLE AND TALK ABOUT IT. AND HAVING BEEN A FORMER STAFF MEMBER OF THE AGENCY, I ALSO HAVE THAT HAT AS WELL. SO I RESPECT MY COLLEAGUES. I THINK THEY'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FIFA. WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD. WE HAVE COMMITTEES THAT ARE PLANNING VERY VERY HARD WE ARE READY FOR FIFA TO COME AND READY FOR THE NEXT PHASE OF DART. SO I'M HAPPY TO BE, I WOULD LOVE TO SERVE ANOTHER TERM AND YOU'LL SEE THAT 98% OF MY ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN WITH BOARD MEETINGS AND ALL THE VARIOUS OTHER COMMITTEES SO I'M VERY ENGAGED IN TRANSIT, THAT'S MY HEART. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. GARCIA. MS. MILLIGAN? SO I THINK THAT THE QUESTION WAS WHY I'D WANT TO BE REAPPOINTED TO THE DART BOARD, AND I THINK I ASKED MYSELF THAT QUESTION ABOUT ONCE A WEEK. [01:20:02] IT'S BEEN A YEAR FROM PULL-OUT ELECTIONS TO THE RESIGNATION OF OUR CEO TO HAVING AN ACTING CEO AND NOW AN INTERIM CEO, AND WE'LL BE LEADING A, WE'RE CURRENTLY LEADING A CEO SEARCH TO FIGHTING SOME BAD BILLS IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND CERTAINLY ADDRESSING CRIME AND SAFETY IN THE IN THE SYSTEM IT'S BEEN IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN AN INTERESTING YEAR YOU KNOW I THINK I WAS APPOINTED TO THIS POSITION BECAUSE OF MY BACKGROUND IN BOTH HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT I'VE STAYED ENGAGED WITH THAT AND THOSE POLICIES IN THE BOARD AT ONE OF MY FIRST MEETINGS AS WE WERE REFINING OUR NEW TAX INCREMENT REVENUE POLICY THAT THAT SHARES THE INCREMENT IN TAX REVENUE FROM TERZA'S WITH OUR MEMBER CITIES WAS ABLE TO ADVOCATE FOR AN ENHANCED BONUS IF THERE WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THAT TOD AND SO I THINK I'VE BEEN ABLE TO FROM THE EARLIEST DAYS BRING BRING A GOOD PERSPECTIVE I'M ALSO AS A GOAL FOR THIS NEXT YEAR WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT BRING A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE BOTH FROM WHEN I WAS A CITY STAFFER HERE HAD COMMUNITY COURTS IN MY PORTFOLIO SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR SOCIAL SERVICES SYSTEM AND AND SOME OF THE RIDERS IN OUR SYSTEM AS WELL AS HOW HOMELESSNESS AND OTHER ISSUES IMPACT OUR SYSTEM SO HOPE TO CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED IN THAT BUT I THINK THE LAST THING I WANTED TO SAY IS WHEN I WAS A STAFFER AT THE CITY OF DALLAS I SOMETIMES LOOKED AT REGIONALISM WITH MAYBE A WARY EYE AND I THINK I'VE LEARNED A LOT OVER THIS PAST YEAR BOTH LEARNING TO INTERACT WITH OUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS FROM MEMBER CITIES AS WELL AS CITY MANAGERS AND OTHER REPRESENTATIVES TALKING TO RIDERS WHO RIDE IN OTHER CITIES AND UNDERSTANDING HOW THEY VIEW THE SYSTEM I THINK I'VE GROWN A LOT IN TERMS OF MY UNDERSTANDING OF STILL BEING A DALLAS FIRST. BOARD MEMBER BUT UNDERSTANDING HOW YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND REGIONALISM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT JOB AND COMMUTE PATTERNS SO THAT WE CAN BUILD THE STRONGEST SYSTEM POSSIBLE THANK YOU MS. MILLIGAN I'LL NOW OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR CANDIDATES AND I WILL START WITH VICE CHAIR ROTH IT'S IT'S SORT OF A LOADED QUESTION BUT AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A LONG ANSWER BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF PERSONAL SUGGESTIONS, A SHORT LIST OF THINGS THAT COULD BE IMPROVED AND SOMETHING, THINGS THAT ARE SORT OF ON YOUR TARGET LIST TO SORT OF MAKE AN IMPACT ON ADVANCING THE DART SYSTEM GENERALLY? YES, SIR, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY ARE VERY CRITICAL TO PROGRESS OUR AGENCY IN TERMS OF UM, TALKING TO EACH OTHER. I MEAN, WE BEGIN TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR SUBURBS, YOU KNOW, OTHER MEMBER CITIES, AND THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, AND WE'VE ACHIEVED THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GO THE HARD WAY. THERE WERE SOME CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF THE ELECTIONS, BUT WE'RE THERE. EVERYBODY'S SPEAKING TO ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THOSE CITIES, AND WE'RE THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. THAT'S WHAT MY STRATEGY IS. THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. LET'S DO SOMETHING BETTER. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SECURITY. LET'S USE IT TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE. WE'RE GETTING MORE SYSTEMS IN PLACE. I WANT TO WORK WITH RANDALL AND OUR BOARD. MEMBERS ON THE SECURITY ASPECT. IT IS SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE AN OPEN SYSTEM WE'VE GOT TO WORK ON A CLOSED SYSTEM. IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME AND I'M SURE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AS WELL BUT I THINK AND ALSO BEING INNOVATIVE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ALL A PART OF THIS SYSTEM WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MARKET THE SYSTEM, RIDE THE SYSTEM, YOU KNOW DO THE THINGS THAT THAT WE COULD BE DOING AT NO CHARGE. YOU KNOW JUST PROMOTE IT IF YOU'RE HAVING SOMETHING IN YOUR CITY ENCOURAGE THEM TO WRITE ART SO THAT'S HOW WE CAN INCREASE THE RIDERSHIP THAT'S THAT'S KEY TO INCREASE THE RIDERSHIP THANK YOU YEAH I THINK JUST TO ENHANCE OR AGREE WITH WHAT MISS GARCIA SAID WE NEED TO GROW RIDERSHIP AND WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GROW REVENUE AND CERTAINLY UH PERCEPTION OF THE SAFETY OF THE SYSTEM IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS UM I HAD THE CHANCE TO TAKE THE DARTS OF THE WILDFLOWER ARTS FESTIVAL YESTERDAY IN RICHARDSON AND AND DEFINITELY THE EXPERIENCE AT FOREST LANE STATION WAS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE EXPERIENCE AT THE GALLATIN PARK STATION AND SO YOU KNOW DEFINITELY WANT TO TALK TO CHIEF AS WELL AS OUR OPERATIONS FOLKS JUST IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE OF HOW FOREST LANE RIGHT IF IT IF IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S BEEN CLEANED [01:25:01] IN A LONG TIME IT LEADS TO PERCEPTIONS OF SAFETY WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S TRUE OR NOT. SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE ALSO WE HAVE TO SHOW TO OUR MEMBER CITIES THAT WE ARE WE ARE MAXIMIZING THE REVENUE THAT THE ORGANIZATION CAN BRING IN SO WHETHER THAT IS FROM ADVERTISING CONTRACTS WHETHER THAT'S SPECIAL EVENTS REDEVELOPING SOME OF OUR LAND THROUGH GROUND LEASES. WE DON'T I THINK TRANSPARENTLY SHOW THAT AS POSSIBLE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. SO I THINK THAT'S ONE THING THAT I'VE ALREADY ASKED STAFF ABOUT I WANT TO START ENGAGING WITH OUR STAFF MEMBERS EARLIER IN THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS SO I CAN TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE BUDGET BUT WOULD LOVE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SURFACE SOME OF THOSE EFFORTS THAT WE CURRENTLY ARE MAKING AND SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE SEE WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF BOARD BRIEFINGS ON PARKING REVENUE RIGHT COULD WE CHARGE FOR PARKING ESPECIALLY MEMBERS WHETHER IT'S HIGHLAND PARK OR WHETHER IT'S OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE NOT JOINED THE SYSTEM BUT ARE CONNECTING INTO THE SYSTEM. RIGHT WHETHER IT'S VIA CONNECTING INTO OUR SYSTEM OR WHETHER IT IS RIDERS WHO ARE PARKING AT OUR LOTS THAT ARE FROM NON-MEMBER CITIES ARE THERE WAYS THAT WE COULD GROW OUR REVENUE BY CHARGING FOR PARKING OR OTHER SERVICES SO I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES JUST TO DO A BETTER JOB OF SHOWING OUR MEMBER CITIES AS WELL AS STATE LEGISLATORS THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO NOT BE AS RELIANT ON THE SALES TAX AS POSSIBLE GIVEN OUR TIME CONSTRAINTS TODAY I THINK I'M GOING TO NEED TO LIMIT QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE TO ONE PER PERSON SO COUNCILMEMBER KADENA DO YOU SEE ANY TRENDS IN TRANSPORTATION THAT MAYBE DART COULD LOOK INTO MAYBE OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION STREETCAR YEAH I WOULD HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD UH TO BRING BACK THE HOPPA BUS I LOVE THE HOPPA BUS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL DID BUT DO YOU ALL REMEMBER THE HOPPA BUS AND IF YOU GO TO FORT WORTH GUESS WHAT THEY HAVE A COMPLIMENTARY BUSES AROUND THE CITY SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A STRONG LOOK AT SOMETHING IF THAT CAN HAPPEN A WAY TO TO BRING THAT RIDERSHIP IN OUR CITIES YOU KNOW, MORE CONSISTENT, SMALLER BUSES. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A BIG BUS, BUT IT'S A SMALL BUS, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I'LL BE QUICK. I MEAN, WE ARE STARTING TO EXPLORE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES, AND CERTAINLY WE'VE HAD SOME OF OUR CITY MANAGERS THAT ARE EXPLORING THAT EVEN MORE IN DEPTH THAN DART IS. SO I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT FROM AN AUTONOMOUS, BECAUSE ONE OF OUR BIGGEST EXPENSES IS PAYROLL. SO IS THERE AN ABILITY TO REDUCE OUR EXPENSES AND USE THAT TECHNOLOGY AS IT CONTINUES TO IMPROVE? AND THEN I THINK ALSO ONE OF OUR BEST PERFORMING BUS ROUTES IS A REVERSE, WHAT WE WOULD CALL A REVERSE COMMUTE FROM DOWNTOWN DALLAS UP TO PLANO. IT'S AN EXPRESS BUS. THOSE ARE A LITTLE MORE NICER COACH BUSES. I THINK WE HAVE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE OUR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS ARE AND IF THERE ARE COMMUTING PATTERNS THAT WE'RE MISSING AND POTENTIALLY EXPLORE WHETHER EXPRESS BUS ROUTES. COULD BE MORE OF A WAY TO GROW RIDERSHIP AND ENHANCE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE BECAUSE OF THE LESS STOPS AND THE QUICKER, MORE COMFORTABLE RIDE. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN, NO? COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON'S QUESTION. ONE PER PERSON. OKAY, WELL, I DO HAVE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS, AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WHAT THEY ARE, AND YOU CAN ANSWER THE ONES THAT YOU WANT TO. THESE ARE VERY SHORT ANSWER ONES. ONE, DO YOU THINK EXECUTIVES SHOULD BE PAID A YEAR-END OR PERFORMANCE BONUS? TWO, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT BUS FOR PLANO, ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING TO ENSURE THAT FRISCO RESIDENTS AREN'T TOTALLY STACKING THAT BUS BECAUSE BY THE WAY THEY ARE AND TAKING UP SEATS FOR RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN A TAX-PAYING JURISDICTION AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS HOW MANY HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS DID YOU SEE WHEN YOU WENT TO THAT FOREST LANE STATION AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU WENT TO GALLATIN OR ANY OTHER LOCATION WELL SURE I'LL ANSWER BONUSES FRISCO AND ENCAMPMENTS SO I'VE REPORTED THAT ENCAMPMENT BEFORE AT THE FOREST LANE STATION BECAUSE I WALKED MY DOG ON THAT THAT ROUTE ALSO AND SOMEBODY HAD DUMPED OUT THE TRASH AND BURNED IT I THINK WE HAVE SOME FIRE STARTERS THERE SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO PARTNER UM BECAUSE WE HAD I THINK A TRANSIT SECURITY VEHICLE THAT WAS THERE BUT IT WAS PARKED ACROSS THE PARKING LOT RIGHT AND ALL OF THE ACTIVITY IS HAPPENING RIGHT WHERE THE PARKING LOT CONNECTS [01:30:02] TO THE TRAIL SO I THINK THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN DO BETTER BUT I THINK ONCE YOU GET OFF OUR PROPERTY, THE ENCAMPMENT IS ON, I'M PRESUMING, PARK LAND. IT COULD BE PRIVATE LAND. SO I THINK THERE ARE ALWAYS WAYS THAT WE CAN PARTNER BETTER. AND THEN TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT FRISCO RESIDENTS, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO BALANCE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH CITIES. WE HAVE PRESSURE TO GROW MEMBERSHIP SO THAT THE MEMBER CITIES ARE NOT CONTRIBUTING AS MUCH SALES TAX AS POSSIBLE. BUT UNTIL YOU JOIN, PREVENTING YOU FROM TAKING... TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OF THE SYSTEM AND SO I THINK THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE WE NEED TO DO BETTER I THINK THAT'S WE'RE EXPLORING THINGS LIKE MONITORING OUR PARKING LOTS AND OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER CITY YOU DON'T GET THE FULL BENEFITS OF OUR SYSTEM I WOULD AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE IN TERMS OF AREAS AROUND OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM THAT ARE USING THE SYSTEM FOR FREE AND NOT FOR FREE BUT YOU KNOW LET'S LET'S WORK WITH THOSE CITIES TO BRING THEM IN INSTEAD OF USING THE SYSTEM FOR OTHERS TO USE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, EXPANDING OUR SYSTEM. IT'S BEEN ON THE TABLE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BUT I THINK WE'RE BEING MORE AGGRESSIVE ABOUT BRINGING IN NEW CITIES TO OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK. THE ENCAMPMENTS, THEY JUST KEEP MOVING AROUND TO DIFFERENT SPACES. IT'S SO HARD TO IDENTIFY WHERE THEY ARE IN THE CITIES. I DON'T SEE... THE TIMES THAT I'VE BEEN WRITING, I WRITE A LOT TO FORT WORTH ON THE TRE. I DON'T REALLY SEE MANY ENCAMPMENTS THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, US IN TERMS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ON OUR BUSES THAT SHOULD NOT BE ON OUR BUSES. SO WE'RE WORKING REAL CLOSE WITH THE COUNTY AND SOME OF THEIR PROGRAMS. SO IT TAKES ALL OF US TOGETHER TO REALLY FOCUS ON THAT. AND LET'S COME UP WITH A PLAN. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN WORK IN INCREMENTS TO RESOLVE THAT PROBLEM, BECAUSE IT IS A PROBLEM. WELL, THANK YOU. THE FORT SLANE STATION, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF MURDERS. THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY ACCOUNTED FOR IN YOUR NUMBERS, BECAUSE I THINK THEY ACTUALLY HAPPENED EITHER ON PARK LAND OR ON SIDEWALKS. BUT I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN THREE THIS YEAR. SO IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT ISSUE. I'M SURE YOU SAW THE DRUG USE AS WELL AS INCREDIBLE LITTER THAT IS ON YOUR PROPERTY. BUT I WILL SAY, I THINK YOU CAN ENACT POLICIES WHERE, WHETHER IT'S IDS ARE CHECKED SPECIFICALLY AT THE END OF LINES, YOUR NUMBER ONE RAIL STATION IS THE PARKER ROAD STATION IN PLANO, BECAUSE AGAIN, ALL THE SURROUNDING CITIES. AND WHEN PLANO COMPLAINS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PAYING FOR MORE OF THE SYSTEM THAN THEY THINK THEY'RE GETTING BENEFIT OF. THEY ACTUALLY ARE, BUT IT'S NOT AGAINST DALLAS. IT'S AGAINST ALL THEIR NEIGHBORS WHO ARE USING THE SERVICE THROUGH THEM. I NOTICE BOTH OF YOU DID NOT INCLUDE COMMENTS ON THE PERFORMANCE BONUSES OR YEAR-END BONUSES FOR STAFF. AGAIN, I HOPE AS A POLICY YOU WILL STRONGLY CONSIDER THAT AS YOU ARE FACING FINANCIAL CHALLENGES, AND THIS IS A FAIRLY INAPPROPRIATE USE, I THINK, OF TAX DOLLARS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE THIS REAL QUICK. AND THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR SERVICES. AND I'LL JUST HAVE A REALLY QUICK QUESTION, A STATEMENT AND A QUESTION. THE STATEMENT IS SOUTHERN DALLAS HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR YEARS IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION. SO I'M JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS REALLY JUST APPLYING MORE PRESSURE. I KNOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CITIES IN THE NORTH SAYING THEY DON'T WANT. MEANWHILE, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE SOUTH THAT SAY WE COULD AND THAT WE CAN. AND THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES. YOU AS YOU ALL MOVE FORWARD, I'M PRESSING BOTH OF YOU TO DO THAT. SO I'LL STOP RIGHT THERE, KIND OF GAVE YOU MY ANSWER. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY MOVING FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN IS REALLY, REALLY MAP THIS OUT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, AND SOME THINGS WE CAN DO RIGHT AWAY, SOME THINGS WE CAN'T. SO WHY DON'T WE SIT DOWN AND MAP OUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU FEEL THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THIS AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM AND THE NEXT ITEM. SO LET'S BEGIN TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I BELIEVE OUR BOARD IS OPEN TO THAT. LET'S JUST SIT DOWN AND LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW SOME THINGS MAY NOT COST THAT MUCH AND ONCE ONCE WE SIT DOWN AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT PERHAPS THERE'S A WAY FOR REALLY FOR US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN THING LET'S MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT WE'LL WORK ON THAT SIR THANK YOU YEAH I THINK THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY IS REALLY WHAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF STRESS OVER THIS PAST YEAR IS UM LACK OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN DART AND ITS MEMBER CITIES UM AND AND ALL OF THE VARIOUS PULLOUT ELECTIONS HAVE JUST FORCED THAT COMMUNICATION TO HAPPEN AND SO I THINK WE HAVE MUCH, MUCH BETTER LINES OF COMMUNICATION. OUR STAFF ARE WORKING ON AREA PLANS WITH MEMBER CITIES TO REALLY [01:35:02] UNDERSTAND HOW ARE CITIES GROWING AND CHANGING, AND THEN HOW DO WE DESIGN OUR SYSTEM SO IT SERVES THE NEEDS OF CITIES. AND IN TERMS OF NEW MEMBER CITIES, OUR CHAIR RECENTLY SENT A LETTER TO RTC, JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FOCUSING NOT JUST ON GROWING NORTH BUT GROWING SOUTH IN TERMS OF OPPORTUNITIES AND POTENTIALS. POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS OR ADDING NEW MEMBERS TO THE SYSTEM COUNCILMEMBER BLAIR THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN FOR CHAIR BRACEY FOR HAPPILY TAKING SOME OF MY QUESTION AWAY WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO GROWING THE SOUTHERN AREA SINCE HE TALKED ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LET ME TALK WITH INSIDE THE CITY THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN OUR CITY IN ORDER TO GROW RIDERSHIP, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHEAST AREA. THE CHALLENGE IS EQUITY OF SERVICE. HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO BALANCE SOME OF THE ABILITY TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE SOUTHERN AREA, ESPECIALLY THE SOUTHEAST, TO JOBS? I BELIEVE IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE CURRENT ROUTES THAT WE HAVE IN A SPECIFIC AREA, I'D HAVE TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT REALLY IS, BUT PERHAPS THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT, BUT LET'S JUST SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION. AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN BEGIN TO PROGRESS. IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT IS NEEDED. I KNOW THAT IT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED, AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW. IF WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, HOW CAN WE REALLY MOVE SOME OF THE ROUTES THAT PERHAPS ARE NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS OTHERS? SO THAT'S WHAT I CAN COME UP WITH, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS SO THAT WE CAN TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THIS AREA THAT IS VERY MUCH NEEDED FOR OUR AGENCY. I THINK THAT'S THE BALANCE WE HAVE TO TRY TO FIND SO THAT THE BOARD STRATEGY HAS BEEN MOVING FROM BEING AN AGENCY OF GROWTH AND CAPITAL EXPENDITURES IN TERMS OF THE SILVER LINE AND MOVING TO A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR, AS WELL AS OUR BUS REDESIGN FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO SO THAT WE CAN BE A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE BUS COMES EVERY 15 MINUTES, RIGHT, RATHER THAN HAVING TO MEMORIZE A SPECIFIC BUS SCHEDULE. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO STAY WHILE WE... WELL, WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO INCREASE REVENUE AND ADD MEMBER CITIES. WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO MAINTAINING THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. AND MAINTAINING THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, IF WE FAIL TO DO IT, HAS THE HIGHEST IMPACT ON OUR TRANSIT-DEPENDENT RIDERS BECAUSE EITHER THE BUSES ARE NOT WELL-MAINTAINED AND THEY BREAK DOWN OR WE HAVE LESS ROUTES. AND SO I THINK BOTH OF US HERE AT THE TABLE ARE VERY AWARE THAT WE NEED TO BALANCE THAT. SO THAT WE DO CONTINUE TO SERVE RIDERS WHO ARE ESPECIALLY DEPENDENT ON OUR BUS SYSTEM BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT SOUTHERN DALLAS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND THAT WE'RE SEEING EMPLOYERS RELOCATE OR OPEN EMPLOYMENT CENTERS IN SOUTHERN DALLAS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONNECTING WORKERS TO THOSE JOB OPPORTUNITIES COUNCILMEMBER JOHNSON DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OKAY, AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE TWO CANDIDATES FOR TWO DIFFERENT POSITIONS, TWO DIFFERENT PLACES ON THE DART BOARD. I'M OPEN TO A MOTION. TO ADVANCE THIS TO THE COUNCIL OKAY ANY DISCUSSION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE AYE ANY OPPOSED MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY CONGRATULATIONS OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ITEM B THE DALLAS STREETCAR UPDATE DIRECTOR KEN CARLEY ARE YOU YES THERE YOU ARE. GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS GUS CONCORDI, DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS. I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE DALLAS STREET UPDATE. I AM JOINED BY OUR CONSULTANT TEAM, LINDSAY TRAYLOR FROM GRESHAM SMITH AND DAVID BAUMGARTNER [01:40:02] FROM CAMBRIDGE SYSTEMATICS. FIRST, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE HELPED US IN THIS PROCESS. THERE'S A LOT OF THEM. ESPECIALLY DDI, D-PALOM, AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE IN DOWNTOWN AND THOSE WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED BECAUSE IT TOOK A LOT OF WORK AND EFFORT TO GET US TO THIS POINT. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE STUDY RESULTS, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT, AND TO JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE ON SOME OTHER STREETCAR PLANNING ACTIVITIES. SO WE WILL START WITH THE STREETCAR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE STUDY. THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE PLANNING ACTIVITIES AND THE NEXT STEPS. SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE DAVID ON, SO IF HE CAN JUMP IN. HI THERE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON, DAVID. IT'S ON, CAN YOU HEAR ME? GO AHEAD, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT, ADVANCING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO WHAT WE'RE TASKED WITH AS PART OF THIS STUDY IS TO IDENTIFY REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT THE DALLAS STREETCAR ON THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE SIDE, BOTH FOR THE EXISTING STREETCAR BUT ALSO FOR POTENTIAL FUTURE EXPANSIONS. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO NEXT ONE. YEAH, THERE WE GO. SO THIS IS... AN INTRODUCTION TO THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE. PART OF THE EARLY TASKS WE DID WAS REALLY COMPARE WHERE DALLAS COMPARES TO OTHER STREETCARS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND REALLY THE DALLAS STREETCAR IS FUNDED PRIMARILY BY FARES AND THE GENERAL FUND FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS WITH SOME CONTRIBUTIONS FROM DART BUT THIS IS A LOT NARROWER TYPE OF FUNDING. STRUCTURE THAN A LOT OF OTHER STREETCARS ARE FUNDED AROUND THE COUNTRY. A LOT OF OTHERS ARE FUNDED BY SALES TAXES AND SPONSORSHIPS, ADVERTISING, PARKING FEES, FEDERAL FORMULA FUNDS. THERE'S A VERY DIVERSE SET OF FUNDING SOURCES THAT ARE USED TO FUND STREETCARS AROUND THE COUNTRY. NEXT SLIDE. OUR STUDY AGAIN IS DIVIDED INTO TWO PHASES. ONE WAS TO CREATE SHORT-TERM RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE EXISTING DELLA STREETCAR, SHOWN HERE IN YELLOW, AND THEN ALSO TO LOOK AT LONGER-TERM FUNDING SOURCES THAT CAN SUPPORT THE EXPANSION OF THE SYSTEM AND LONGER-TERM IMPLEMENTATION, FOCUSED ON THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COST OF PROVIDING THESE SERVICES, NOT THE CAPITAL COST OF BUILDING THESE LINES. SO INCLUDED HERE ARE THE THE RUS. AVENUE LOMA GREENVILLE LINE, THE FAIR PARK LINE, BISHOP'S ARTS DOWN TO THE HALPERN ZOO EXTENSION, AND THEN IN THE CENTRAL AREA THE OMNI LOOP NORTHERN EXTENSION AND THE CENTRAL LINK. LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POTENTIAL RIDINGS FOR THAT SERVICE. ON THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF A WIDE RANGE OF POTENTIAL ANNUAL OPERATING MAINTENANCE EXPENSES IF THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM IS BUILT. WE TRIED TO ESTIMATE THIS WITH A WIDE RANGE GIVEN THAT THIS IS A PLANNING STUDY. WE DIDN'T WANT TO CONSTRAIN FUTURE ENGINEERING AND PLANNING OF INDIVIDUAL LINES. BUT IN TOTAL RIGHT NOW THE EXISTING THREE CARS IS ABOUT 3.3 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO OPERATE. IF ALL THESE LINES ARE BUILT IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 11 UP TO ABOUT 28 MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. OF ANNUAL OPERATING COSTS DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH SERVICE THERE IS AND EXACTLY WHAT THE COST PROFILE IS ON EACH OF THESE LINES. GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO OUR APPROACH WAS TO LOOK AT OPERATING FUNDING SOURCES FOR A WIDE RANGE OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDING SOURCES TO PROVIDE OPERATING FUNDS FOR THE STREET CAR. AND WE STARTED THIS EARLY LAST YEAR WITH A PRESENTATION TO YOU. LAST YEAR WE HAD TWO WORKSHOPS WITH STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, FROM VARIOUS PUBLIC AGENCIES AROUND DALLAS, INCLUDING DART, INCLUDING THE CITY, INCLUDING NCTCOG, AND SEVERAL OTHERS. AND WE WANTED TO WORK THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME OUT OF THIS ARE VALIDATED WITH THAT [01:45:01] LOCAL STAKEHOLDER INPUT. FOR EACH FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE LOOKED AT, WE TRIED TO EVALUATE IT ON THREE MEASURES. ONE IS HOW MUCH REVENUE WOULD IT BRING IN, SECOND IS WHO IS PAYING, AND THIRD IS HOW IS IT COLLECTED. AND THIS IS REALLY INTENDED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A MULTILATERAL LOOK AT WHAT EACH OF THESE FUNDING SOURCES. THE IMPACT WOULD BE AND HOW MUCH MONEY IT WOULD BRING IN. SO GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE IN PHASE ONE WE LOOKED AT THESE FUNDING SOURCES AGAIN FOR THE SHORT TERM FOR THE EXISTING STREETCAR LINE AND THEY'RE GROUPED INTO A FEW DIFFERENT CATEGORIES HERE. ONE'S GEOGRAPHY BASED FUNDING TOOLS REALLY HOW CAN WE COLLECT FUNDING FROM THE GEOGRAPHY AROUND THE EXISTING STREETCAR? IN A WAY THAT CAN SUPPORT THE STREETCAR SPECIFICALLY COMMERCIAL PARTNERSHIPS LIKE ADVERTISEMENTS, NAMING RIGHTS, SPONSORSHIPS ARE ANOTHER PIECE THAT WE LOOKED AT. A SALES TAX WAS CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS AND EVALUATED. AND THEN A VARIETY OF OTHER IDEAS THAT HAVE COME UP FOR FUNDING THIS, INCLUDING VOLUNTARY COLLECTIONS, FTA FORMULA FUNDS, HOTEL AND MOTEL TAX, AND LOCAL MOTOR VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEE. AGAIN, THIS IS THE SHORT LIST THAT WAS CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS. THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE EVALUATION OF THESE. AND SO AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE, BUT TOWARDS THE TOP ARE FUNDING SOURCES THAT IN THE PHASE ONE WE THOUGHT WERE MORE PROMISING, AND TOWARDS THE BOTTOM ARE THINGS THAT WERE DEEMED LESS PROMISING IN TERMS OF THOSE THREE CATEGORIES OF HOW MUCH REVENUE THEY BRING IN, WHO'S PAYING, AND HOW IS IT COLLECTED. THERE ARE SOME LOW-HANGING FRUITS HERE, LIKE FTA FORMULA FUNDS, ADVERTISEMENTS, OR SPONSORSHIPS THAT CAN HELP OFFSET THE COST OF THE O&M COSTS FOR THE EXISTING STREETCAR. AND A HANDFUL OF OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT CAN BRING IN MORE SUBSTANTIAL REVENUE BUT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE HARD TO IMPLEMENT OR TO BRING FORWARD BUT ARE PROMISING IN TERMS OF BRINGING NEW REVENUE IN TO SUPPORT THE STREETCAR, THE EXISTING STREETCAR. MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AFTER THAT WE MOVED INTO PHASE TWO WHICH WAS LOOKING MORE COMPREHENSIVELY AT THE FULL SYSTEM. AND THE EXPANSION OF THE SYSTEM AND BOTH BASED ON THE PHASE ONE WORK BUT ALSO THE FEEDBACK WE HAD FROM THOSE WORKSHOPS WITH STAKEHOLDERS. WE EXPANDED THE LIST A LITTLE BIT TO INCLUDE OTHER FEDERAL FUNDING SOURCES, A VARIETY OF THESE SPECIAL DISTRICT-BASED FUNDING TOOLS. THESE ARE THOSE GEOGRAPHY SPECIFIC TOOLS THAT ARE LOOKING TO CREATE AND GENERATE REVENUE AROUND CLIFF STREETCAR LINES. PRIVATE SECTOR COMMERCIAL FUNDING SOURCES LIKE ADVERTISEMENTS, SPONSORSHIP, AND NAMING RIGHTS. FARE BOX REVENUES OR CHARTER SERVICES THINGS THAT CAN BE DIRECTLY GENERATED BY THE STREETCAR AND TICKET FEES IS ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME UP FROM THIS THAT WAS SUGGESTED BY THE STAKEHOLDER COMMITTEE THAT WE INVESTIGATED AS WELL SO THE EVALUATION OF THIS FOR PHASE TWO CAME HERE AND AGAIN THERE'S THERE'S A LOT HERE ON THIS SLIDE AND AGAIN ARRANGED TOWARDS FROM THE TOP TOWARDS THE BOTTOM WHERE THERE'S A FEW FUNDING SOURCES THAT SEEM VERY LIKELY TO BE POSSIBLE FOR FUNDING THE STREETCAR. FTA FORMULA FUNDS ESPECIALLY THROUGH 5337, THE STATE OF GOOD REPAIR PROGRAM, A VARIETY OF LOCAL GEOGRAPHY BASED FEES THAT WE THINK CAN COME TOGETHER AS A PACKAGE, LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEES, PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICTS, TICKET FEES, SPONSORSHIP AND ADVERTISING. TYPE TOOLS ARE DEFINITELY ALSO VERY PROMISING IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THEM, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT VERY LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNTS TOTAL. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME THAT JUST ARE TOWARDS THE BOTTOM HERE, LESS PROMISING, AND WE DON'T THINK ARE VERY LIKELY TO BE GOOD TOOLS FOR FUNDING THE STREETCAR IN DALLAS. SO MOVING TO RECOMMENDATIONS, WE THINK A PACKAGE APPROACH TO FUNDING THE STREETCAR IS THE BEST APPROACH. NONE OF THESE IS LARGE ENOUGH IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO FUND THE ENTIRE EXPANSION OF THE STREETCAR. WITH ENOUGH SUPPORT FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE THAT WE ENGAGED THROUGH THIS PROJECT TO REALLY JUST BE A SINGLE SILVER BULLET THROUGH THIS. SO WE THINK A THIS PACKAGE STRATEGY OF A MIX OF CITY CONTROL TOOLS AND COMMUNITY DRIVEN SOURCES IS REALLY THE RIGHT APPROACH TO PURSUE. PROBABLY NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WOULD BE PART OF THE PACKAGE BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WE SHOULD WE RECOMMEND NARROWING DOWN ON REALLY TRYING TO PURSUE AND REALLY TRY TO ENGAGE AT. [01:50:02] SO I'M GOING TO TALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF EACH OF THESE BECAUSE THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THE FIRST HERE YOU SEE IS CITY GENERAL FUNDS. WE DO EXPECT THAT CITY GENERAL FUNDS WOULD STILL BE PART OF THE FUNDING PACKAGE. AGAIN, RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE PREDOMINANT SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THE STREETCAR O&M COSTS. BUT NARROWING THAT DOWN TO A BASELINE AMOUNT JUST TO MAKE SURE THE CITY STAYS INVESTED AND IN. AND HAS CONTROL OVER THE STREETCAR WE FELT WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE PACKAGE. THE SECOND IS FTA FEDERAL FUNDS. SO THE DALLAS STREETCAR QUALIFIES FOR FEDERAL FORMULA FUNDING UNDER THIS SECTION 5337 THE STATE OF GOOD REPAIR GRANTS WHICH ARE USED FOR MAINTENANCE COSTS AND CAPITAL REHABILITATION PROJECTS FOR FIXED GUIDEWAY SYSTEMS SO RAIL SYSTEMS. NCTCOG HAS COMMITTED TO REVIEWING THE 5337 FUNDING AS IT RELATES TO STREETCAR AND SO WE SEE THIS AS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PART OF THE SOLUTION GOING FORWARD. OTHER PARTS OF THIS THE TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEE. THE TRANSPORTATION UTILITY FEE IS WOULD BE APPLIED AS THE MONTHLY CHARGE ON UTILITY BILLS FOR HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE STREETCAR TYPICALLY SOMETHING LIKE A QUARTER MILE OR A HALF A MILE FROM THE FROM THE ROUTE. WE THINK THIS IS SO THAT COULD BE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SOURCE OF FUNDING, VERY TARGETED TO BENEFICIARIES OF THE STREETCAR, AND COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE PACKAGE FOR BRINGING IN OR FOR OPERATING THE STREETCAR GOING FORWARD. PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICTS, THESE ARE DISTRICTS THAT WOULD MARKET A PORTION OF THE ON-STREET PARKING METER REVENUE WITHIN THE DEFINED ZONE TO FUND STREETCAR O&M COSTS. PART OF THE REVENUE FROM THE METERS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE DIRECTED TO THIS PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICT, AND THAT DISTRICT COULD THEN DIRECT FUNDING TO THAT FUNDING TOWARDS THE STREETCAR OPERATION. WE THINK THIS IS VERY PROMISING. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT POLICY THAT THE CITY ADOPTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DAVID. I'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE. NEXT SLIDE IS THE JUST HIGH LEVEL ON THE PLANNING ACTIVITIES FOR THEĀ… STREETCAR, SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE AS PART OF THE DALLAS PORTION OF THE OAK FARM STUDY IN 2024-2025, WE SHOWED A POTENTIAL EXTENSION OF THE STREETCAR FROM THE BISHOP HEARTS AREA TO THE HALPERN PARK ZOO AREA WAS EVALUATED AND THE DRAFT ALIGNMENT WAS PRODUCED FOR THAT ONE. AS FAR AS THE CENTRAL LINK IS CONCERNED, WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN CONNECTION, CURRENTLY THERE IS A 2017 CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED LOCALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE HOWEVER GIVEN THE CHANGES IN DOWNTOWN PART OF THE NEW STUDY IS GOING TO REEVALUATE THE CONNECTIVITY THROUGH DOWNTOWN AND REVALIDATE IF THIS ALIGNMENT STILL IS AVAILABLE OR IS STILL VALID AND OR IF WE NEED TO LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES AND THE OTHER THING IS WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD INTERFACE WITH THE MCKINNEY AREA TRANSIT AUTHORITY OR MATA SYSTEM IN IN DOWNTOWN AND NUMBER THREE IS TO LOOK AT THE FATAL FLAW CONNECTIVITY INTO EAST THE CURRENT THE EASTERN PART OF THE CITY IN THE FROM THE DOWNTOWN THROUGH ROSS AVENUE INTO THE LOWER GREENVILLE AREA WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE WHAT WE CALL THE FATAL FLAW FOR THE FAIR PARK CONNECTION AND WE LOOKED AT THE CONNECTION FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER ALONG LAMAR THROUGH BOTHAM JOHN TO MLK TO FAIR PARK, AND WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING ON IT. WE HAD A POSITIVE FEEDBACK, AND THERE IS NO MAJOR CONSTRAINTS ON THAT ALIGNMENT. SO A FEW THINGS ON THE NEXT STEPS. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONTINUING IS TO TALK. TO THE STAKEHOLDERS REGARDING GATHERING FEEDBACK ABOUT THE O&M MODELS THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED ON THE SHORT, MEDIUM, AND LONG-TERM VIABILITY. WE WILL FINALIZE THE O&M REPORT FOR POTENTIAL CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO REDUCE THE RELIANCE ON THE GENERAL FUNDS, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY FINALIZING THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CONSULTANT FOR THE CENTRAL LINK CONSULTANT WHICH I EXPECT AT THE MOMENT TO BE IN THE AUGUST 2026 COUNCIL AGENDA SO WITH THAT HAPPY [01:55:02] TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THANK YOU DR KANKARLI FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN THANK YOU UM SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS UM WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THIS MONEY YOU AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO FUND IT AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE SURE IT'S MAINTAINED? I MEAN YOU'VE GIVEN US IDEAS BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A PID, THERE'S A TIF, THOSE ALL REQUIRE PEOPLE ALONG THE CORRIDOR TO APPROVE IT AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T? WHAT I MEAN SO HOW WHAT IS THE FINANCING MODEL OF ALL THIS? YOU'VE GIVEN US HIGH LEVEL BUT I MEAN WE'RE 30 THIS WAS COMING TIME THAT WE THIS IS A MONEY THING. OKAY SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE SO I'LL START WITH ONE THING I'VE BEEN ON THE RECORDS OF SAYING AND AND I WILL SAY IT YOU KNOW I'LL CONTINUE TO SAY IT I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TO COUNSEL OR CERTAINLY NOT COMMITTEE OR COUNCIL TO ENGAGE IN ANY CAPITAL EXPANSION OF THE STREETCAR WITHOUT THE IDENTIFICATION HOW WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THE O M SO I'LL START WITH WITH THAT PIECE THE OTHER PIECE AND I WILL TAKE A SMALL STAB AT IT AND THEN I'LL THAT DAVID JUMP IN VERY QUICK. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GO FOR IMMEDIATE IMPLEMENTATION. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE CONTRACT THAT COUNCIL APPROVED FOR THE KIOSK EXCLUDED, HAD A PROVISION IN THAT CONTRACT THAT EXCLUDED THE PLACEMENT OF KIOSKS ON THE EXISTING AND FUTURE OR PLANNED ROUTES FOR THE STREETCAR, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO QUICKLY IMPLEMENT SOME SORT OF A EITHER OUR VERSION OF THE KIOSK OR AND OR THE ADVERTISEMENT ALONG THOSE ROUTES THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO START GENERATING FUNDS IMMEDIATELY ALONG THOSE ROUTES. CERTAINLY THE OTHER ONES LIKE THE PIDS AND SO ON, THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE KIND OF ENGAGEMENTS AND AGREEMENT TO SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING. A THIRD ITEM THAT WE DID, AND IT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN THE LAST MEETING, WAS THE POTENTIAL FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICTS. SO WE'LL START WITH PAID PARKING AREA TO START GENERATING THE FUNDS AND THEN POTENTIALLY CONVERT IT INTO A PAID PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICT THAT WOULD GENERATE FUNDING THAT WILL GO INTO THE EITHER, AS MS. MENDELSON MENTIONED, EITHER DEDICATED. STREAM INTO A SPECIFIC ACCOUNT OR THE GENERAL FUNDS THAT WOULD HELP WITH IT SO THESE THINGS ARE YET TO BE KIND OF DETERMINED AND THIS IS WHY THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO START YOU KNOW GOING THROUGH ALL THAT STUFF AND TRY TO COME UP WITH WITH A SET OF RECOMMENDATION THAT IS MORE TANGIBLE AND MORE IMPLEMENTABLE DAVID DID I MISS ANYTHING OR IS THIS IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD UM NO, JUST THAT... I THINK THERE'S A FEW THINGS HERE THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENTABLE AND ALREADY STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN TO WORK ON THEM AGAIN LIKE LIKE THE PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICT LIKE THE FTA FUNDS THE 5337 OTHERS ARE COMMUNITY DRIVEN AS YOU NOTED AND NEED THE SUPPORT THEY'RE NOT CONTROLLED BY THE CITY AND SO THAT WILL TAKE SOME INITIATIVE AND SOME WORKING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY MAKE THOSE IMPLEMENTED AGAIN I THINK THIS IS PART OF WHY WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT RELIANT ON ANY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE. AND ONE THING I WILL ADD TO IT IS THAT, AND TO DAVID'S CREDIT, WE LOOKED AT THE ELIGIBILITY FOR BEING ELIGIBLE FOR RECEIPT OF FEDERAL FUNDS UNDER THE FDA 5337. AND THE STREETCAR BECAME ELIGIBLE BACK IN 2023. SO WE'VE GOT SOME BACK PAY FUNDS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CALCULATE HOW MUCH IS THAT BACK PAY THAT IS OWED TO THE CITY OF DALLAS. BECAUSE CURRENTLY, TO MY UNDERSTANDING. AND DAVID CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT TO MY UNDERSTANDING, CURRENTLY DART IS CLAIMING THOSE MILEAGE AS PART OF THEIR SYSTEM. OKAY, SO REALLY WE DON'T HAVE, IS THAT GOING TO BE THE NEXT PHASE, IS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS AND THEN MAINTAIN IT? FOR ANY EXPANSION OR THE EXISTING SYSTEM? FOR THIS SYSTEM. I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE. MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING, AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT MAYBE BECAUSE I'M SEEING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GENERAL FUND MONEY. WELL, WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE HAVE NO MONEY IN OUR GENERAL FUND. OKAY, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO A TIF. WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO GET I MEAN, I THOUGHT WE WERE AT OUR MAX OF TIFS, AND WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AROUND TIFS, [02:00:01] BUT THEN YOU'VE ALSO GOT TO THEY'VE GOT TO PROVE IT IF THEY'RE ON THE LINE. PIDS, AND IS THE T-PID AGREED TO BE A PART OF THIS? I MEAN, SO I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND OUR FUNDING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO END UP LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE GOING TO BISHOP ARTS. AND IT'S KIND OF ISOLATED, AND WE FIGHT EVERY BUDGET CYCLE OVER WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT. RIGHT. AND LET ME, IF I ALLOW ME, TO KIND OF BREAK IT DOWN, TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY IT. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THIS STUDY IS PHASE ONE IS THE EXISTING SYSTEM. WHAT CAN I DO TO COME BACK AND START PUTTING IN, GENERATING SOME FUNDS TO HELP WITH THE EXISTING SYSTEM? AND THIS IS THE PHASE ONE. AND THE PHASE TWO IS IF THE CITY IS CONTEMPLATING ANY EXPANSION THESE ARE THE OPTIONS SO THAT'S WHY YOU WILL SEE THERE ARE TWO TWO SLIDES ON THAT SO IT'S JUST GENERAL DISCUSSION POINTS AND I GUESS I GUESS I GOTTA LOOK REALLY HARD YEAH IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE 12. I I OKAY MAYBE I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE I MEAN I SUPPORT A STREETCAR AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY BRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT, I MEAN, WE'RE IN A BUDGET CRUNCH, AND HERE WE ARE. IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE BUILDING EVERYTHING, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT AND HOW IS THAT REALLY OUR JOB? I MEAN, DART, WE JUST HEARD IT FROM DART. I MEAN, IS THERE A WAY TO SPLIT THE BABY, TOO? I'M JUST THROWING EVERYTHING OUT THERE BECAUSE I JUST FEEL LIKE OUR COFFERS ARE GETTING REALLY, REALLY SMALL. AND THE NEED IS GETTING REALLY, REALLY BIG. AND WE'VE BEEN GOING DOWN A PATH. BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE WAS KIOSK MONEY. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE REALLY ARE LOOKING UNDER EVERY CUSHION. BUT, I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THAT KIOSK MONEY. EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THAT POT OF MONEY. AND, YOU KNOW, ARTS IS LOOKING AT THE TEAPOT. IT'S LIKE I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS IS WHEN DOES IT FINALLY JUST STOP AND THE MUSIC STOPS AND ARE THERE GOING TO BE ENOUGH CHAIRS? THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. I JUST FEEL THAT IT IS A, I MEAN, IT'S A RAT RACE. AND EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND, IT'S ANOTHER $50 MILLION HERE AND ANOTHER $250 MILLION TO GO FOR A BOND. AND IT'S LIKE, WHOA. I MEAN, IT'S GETTING REAL BECAUSE WE HAVE NO MONEY. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, AND I'LL KEEP STUDYING IT, AND WE CAN KEEP TALKING. BUT I DON'T WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING AND WE CAN'T MAINTAIN IT OR WE HALFWAY BUILD IT AND IT'S NOT, IT'S HALFWAY GOOD. YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT. AS LONG AS I'M HERE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON. YEAH, I LOST TRACK OF WHERE WE WERE. COUNCIL MEMBER CADENA. I GUESS I WOULD JUST ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT THESE ROUTES, THAT WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ALSO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW. BECAUSE I PULLED UP THE OAK FARM STUDY, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T WANT THE ROUTES GOING THROUGH RESIDENTIAL AREAS. MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SURPRISES WITH THE COMMUNITY IF IF THAT IS SOMETHING UM YOU KNOW WE LOOK TOWARDS AND I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN JUST IN THE FUNDING BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WE HAVE FUNDING TO KEEP THESE SERVICES GOING AS WELL SO THAT'S ALL THANK YOU IF I MAY JUST MAKE ONE QUICK COMMENT UM ON THE OAK FARMS WE'VE HAD IT WE'VE SHOWED IT AS PART OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND CERTAINLY AGAIN IT'S STILL HIGH LEVEL WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROCEEDING POINT IS WELL TAKEN YEAH THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH. THANK YOU. GUS, JUST TO EDUCATE ME A LITTLE BIT, THE CURRENT EXISTING PHASE ONE IS JUST THE AREA THAT GOES FROM HERE ACROSS THE RIVER TO OAK CLIFF, BASICALLY? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR. OKAY, AND THAT'S COSTING US $3.3 MILLION TO OPERATE RIGHT NOW? THAT IS CORRECT. AND THEN WE... YOU HAVE WE HAVE SOME RIDERSHIP FOR THE FAIRS REVENUE AND AND THE DART CREDIT IF YOU WILL THAT IS BASICALLY CURRENTLY IN THE CURRENT BUDGET IS ABOUT 2.6 2.7 MILLION SO CLOSE TO 3 MILLION SO WE'RE PROVIDING ABOUT $2 MILLION. IS THAT WHAT IT IS, OR 2.6? 2.6 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE INCREASING ALMOST EVERY YEAR AT A 4% TO 5% RATE. AND HOW IS THAT 3.3 SORT OF SEPARATED BETWEEN OPERATIONS AND RESERVES FOR MAINTENANCE AND STUFF? IS THERE A WAY TO, IS IT AN EASILY? SORT OF DIVIDABLE DEALERS THAT ALL SORT OF COMBINE TOGETHER SO [02:05:01] WE DO HAVE THE BREAKDOWN FOR THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE UH WE GET IT FROM DART WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH DART THAT WAS CONCLUDED BACK IN 2019 AND IN THAT AGREEMENT BASICALLY IT REQUIRES IT HAS CERTAIN SET OF REQUIREMENTS WHICH IN THIS CASE DART IS OUR OPERATOR AND THEY DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE ON THESE STREET CARS BUT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO INCLUDE IT IN THE BUDGET AND THEN WE HAVE TO UH COME TO IN OCTOBER GENERALLY TO UH UH TO FOR A COUNCIL RESOLUTION TO UH OBLIGATE THE FUNDS SO DART DART IS ACTUALLY RUNNING THEY'RE ACTUALLY OPERATING THE YES SIR THE FACILITY FOR US HAVE WE EVER TALKED ABOUT PRIVATIZING THE THE TROLLEY OR THE THIS THIS PHASE ONE RATHER THAN OPERATING IT THROUGH DART OR THROUGH ANYBODY ELSE SO WE'RE SELLING THAT RIGHT TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO TO OPERATE IT. SO CURRENTLY THE CITY OF DALLAS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE DO HAVE FEDERAL FUNDS IN IT. AND WE'RE WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE NORTH CENTRAL COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS ON THE OWNERSHIP. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE HAVE TO KEEP IT AND MAINTAIN IT UNTIL 24 IN ORDER TO KEEP THE FEDERAL FUNDS. YEAH. OK, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON. WELL, I ESPECIALLY LOVE THAT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE LOOKED AT ME AND STARTED LAUGHING BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING I BRING UP EVERY BUDGET YEAR AND COMPLAIN ABOUT, THAT OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUE, EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR FROM ALL OVER THE CITY, IS GOING TO BENEFIT ONE LITTLE TEENY TINY LINE THAT HAS, AT THE BEGINNING, IT HAD NO PASSENGER REVENUE. WE GOT SOME FARE IN THERE, SO NOW IT HAS $90,000 A YEAR REVENUE. AND WE SPEND 2.6 MILLION DOLLARS, MEANING IT'S NOT A LOT OF RIDES AND WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT TOTALLY DRIVES ME CRAZY. AND WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION MULTIPLE TIMES THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STREETCAR, IT OUGHT TO ACTUALLY PERFORM. IT OUGHT TO BE GOING SOMEWHERE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO GO AND NOT JUST ACROSS A BRIDGE. SO CAN I JUST ASK YOU, WHAT IS THE MCKINNEY TROLLEY'S FREQUENCY AND WHAT DOES ITS RIDERSHIP LOOK LIKE? I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME. I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. I ONLY ASK BECAUSE ON PAGE 7 WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING THE PURE CITIES, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY FALLS IN LINE WITH THE OTHERS. AND ALSO, IT'S SELF-FUNDING. RIGHT, LIKE THERE'S NO TAX DOLLARS GOING TO THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, BUT THERE IS CONTRIBUTIONS FROM DART, FROM UPTOWN DALLAS, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY ON THE ADVERTISEMENTS AND SO ON. THIS IS A GREAT MODEL, THAT THE AREA THAT HAS THE BENEFIT IS PAYING FOR IT. DART, WHICH IS OUR TRANSIT AGENCY, IS PAYING FOR IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE STREETCAR THING. OBVIOUSLY IT ALL HAPPENED BEFORE WE WERE ON COUNCIL. BUT IT IS CRAZY. SO PAGE NINE, IF I CAN ASK YOU ABOUT THE STUDY, HOW MANY OF THESE AREAS THAT YOU STUDIED, THERE'S FOUR OF THEM, HOW MANY OF THEM ALREADY HAVE SOME KIND OF RAIL? ON NINE? SO THIS OMNILINK WOULD BE NEW. THERE'S NO RAIL THERE. THE BISHOP ARTS, THE ZOO AREA, THERE'S A TRAIN THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO THE ZOO, CORRECT? NO. CURRENTLY IT STOPS AT BISHOP ARTS. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EXISTING OPERATION... I'VE LITERALLY TAKEN THE TRAIN TO THE ZOO. RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S LIGHT RAIL. BUT THERE'S ALREADY RAIL. OH, I'M SORRY. LIGHT RAIL. OKAY. YOU'RE ASKING LIGHT RAIL. THERE'S ALREADY SOME RAIL THAT'S GOING THERE. I SEE. I SEE. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE QUESTIONING ASKING THE STREETCAR. NO, I'M QUESTIONING THE REDUNDANCY OF WE ALREADY HAVE LIGHT RAIL THAT GOES TO THE ZOO. WHY DO WE NEED TO ADD STREETCAR TO GO TO THE ZOO? WELL, I MEAN, WE JUST LOOKED AT IT AGAIN, AND IT WAS PART OF THE STUDY. OKAY. SO FAIR PARK HAS AT LEAST TWO STATIONS THAT I'M AWARE OF. FOR LIGHT RAIL CORRECT ARE THERE MORE I THINK THAT IS IS THERE A THIRD I THINK TRE TWO TRE AND THE DART OKAY SO AGAIN WE ALREADY HAVE A RAIL CONNECTED AREA WHY WOULD WE THEN INVEST LIMITED DOLLARS IN ADDING MORE RAIL TO AN AREA [02:10:01] THAT ALREADY HAS A LOT OF RAIL AND THEN THE ROSS AVENUE LOWER GREENVILLE, NO RAIL CURRENTLY, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO FOR ME, I'M ONLY INTERESTED IN TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE RAIL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD BE DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD CREATE REDUNDANCY INSTEAD OF CREATING CONNECTIVITY. AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PRINCIPLE FOR US GOING FORWARD. SO MY NEXT THING IS THAT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS AT ALL. I MEAN. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T HAVE STREETCAR AND IT SHOULDN'T EXPAND. I'M SAYING THE CITY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT IT. THIS IS NOT OUR JOB. WE SPEND $460 MILLION A YEAR WITH DART. THIS IS TRANSPORTATION. THIS IS TRANSIT. GO FOR IT. SO I THINK WE MISSED HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE ENTITY THAT SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THIS. AND WE SHOULD MAYBE HAVE A TASK FORCE OF THE AFFECTED AREAS. THAT ARE NOT REDUNDANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW IT WOULD WORK. THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD BE PARTNERING TOGETHER. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD GIVE UP A PENNY TO DO THIS. THE NEXT THING IS, I'M JUST GOING TO FLAT OUT SAY, NO TO GENERAL FUND. NO, NO, NO. NOW, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A PID WHERE THEY THINK THIS IS GOING TO HELP THEM ON THEIR BUSINESS AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY, GOD BLESS. THE TPID WANTS TO HELP. FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER AND FOR THE HOTELS, GOD BLESS. THAT'S FINE. BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT USING THE CONVENTION CENTER'S OPERATING FUNDS, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PAYING DEBT WITH THAT. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING OPERATIONS. BUT THE THING THAT THEY NEVER DID BEFORE WAS ACTUALLY DO THE MAINTENANCE NECESSARY. THEY DID COSMETIC MAINTENANCE. BUT THE REASON WE TORE DOWN A CONVENTION CENTER IN LESS THAN 50 YEARS IS BECAUSE IT DIDN'T FIX ITSELF. IT DIDN'T FIX THE ROOF. IT DIDN'T DO THAT WORK. AND IF WE START TAKING MORE MONEY OUT, THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS ARE FINE. IT'S NOT GOING TO NEED A LOT OF MAINTENANCE. BUT THEN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN 10 YEARS AND 20 YEARS OUT? YOU'RE GOING TO FACE WITH MAINTENANCE NEEDS, AND YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO LET THE CONVENTION CENTER GO AGAIN, WHICH, REMINDER, WE STILL OWE $200 MILLION ON THE CURRENT CONVENTION CENTER WE'RE TEARING DOWN, OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR THIS NEW RAIL. WHICH AGAIN, I DON'T THINK IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE OAK FARM STUDY. IT SEEMS TO BE TALKED ABOUT A LOT LATELY. HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED IN THAT STUDY? LIKE HOW MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE PARTICIPATING? LAURA MIGHT KNOW THIS ANSWER. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER, BUT I KNOW WE'VE HAD A ROBUST... PARTICIPATION. 500 PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED IN THE OAK FARM STUDY? I WOULDN'T SAY 500. 50? AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THEM. I MEAN WE HAD ONE IN PERSON I KNOW AT THE HOSPITAL. 10? NO WE'VE GOT AT LEAST 50. SO SHE'S SAYING ABOUT 44 PEOPLE AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS ON THE MICROPHONE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS OAK FARM STUDY AS IF IT'S LIKE THE BIBLE. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY 44 PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE DETERMINING OUR TRANSPORTATION POLICY. AND SO I DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR ABOUT THE VIADUCTS, NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS. YEAH, 44 PEOPLE IN ONE AREA ARE GOING TO SAY, I WANT MORE SERVICES THAT THE ENTIRE CITY WILL PAY FOR. I THINK WE COULD GET A ROOM OF 44 PEOPLE FROM ANY OF OUR DISTRICTS TO SAY WE WANT MORE SERVICES FOR OUR AREA. SO THIS IS SORT OF AN INSIDER GROUP AND WE NEED A MUCH MORE CITYWIDE DISCUSSION SINCE IT'S CITYWIDE MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICT, THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. YES I MOST CERTAINLY WANT THAT MONEY TO BE DEDICATED TO TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS BUT THE MESSAGE IS FROM OUR OWN RESIDENTS IN EVERY SINGLE SURVEY, PLEASE FIX THE STREETS. AND I WOULD LIKE THAT MONEY TO PLEASE FIX THE STREETS. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER BIG EXPENSIVE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE NO WAY TO CONTINUE FUNDING. AND THE SITUATION WILL CHANGE OVER TIME. JUST LIKE THEY APPROVED THIS STREETCAR WAY BEFORE WE WERE ON HERE, AND NOW WE'RE DEALING WITH $2.6 MILLION COMING OUT OF OUR BUDGET EVERY SINGLE YEAR. SO, NOT A FAN OF ANOTHER NEW EXPENSIVE PROJECT THAT TRULY BELONGS WITH DART. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR. FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M GOING TO ONLY ASK ONE. THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT PAGE 8 AND I SEE WHERE YOU HAVE THE EXISTING FROM WHERE YOU WANT TO ADD. [02:15:01] AND I HEAR... COUNCIL CHAIR MENDELSON TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET. I ACTUALLY AGREE THAT FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE PAYING FOR SERVICES THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS OPERATING AND WE'RE MAINTAINING. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHY? THAT WAS A DECISION BACK IN 2015, SO I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THOSE WHO MADE THAT DECISION. BUT AGAIN, I WOULD. I REEMPHASIZE MY RECOMMENDATION TO THIS COMMITTEE AND TO THE COUNCIL AS LONG AS I'M HERE IS WE WILL NOT BE, I WILL NOT BE RECOMMENDING ANY EXPENDITURE OF A SINGLE PENNY ON CAPITAL EXPANSION WITHOUT HAVING THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE MODEL IN PLACE BEFORE IT. DR. KANKARLI, I NOTICED THAT SLIDE 15, LISTING FUNDING SOURCE RECOMMENDATIONS, DOES NOT INCLUDE GMP. AND WE HAVE A SUBSEQUENT BRIEFING IN ITEM D ON THE GMP. SINCE THAT, ACTUALLY, THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FUNDING PAID FOR THIS STUDY BY GRESHAM SMITH, COULD SOME OF THAT MONEY BE USED FOR O&M FUNDING? SO IT COULD BE. HOWEVER, WHEN WE DID THE STUDY, WE WANTED TO LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT IS THE SUSTAINABLE, LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF THE FUNDING. THE GMP IS NOT A LONG-TERM, AT LEAST THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW. IT'S ONLY A FIVE-YEAR DEAL. HOWEVER, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS US FROM, IF THIS COMMITTEE CHOOSES OR THE COUNCIL CHOOSES, TO PUT SOME OF THE MONEY FROM THE GMP INTO THE STREETCAR. SO COULD YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU SEE AS THE NEXT STEPS FORWARD IN DEVELOPING FUNDING FOR O&M? SO A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT, IS NUMBER ONE IS TO FOCUS ON PHASE ONE TO TRY TO HELP US WITH THE REDUCTION OR AT LEAST STABILIZE THE NUMBER BECAUSE EVERY YEAR IT'S GROWING AT 4% OR 5%. I REALLY NEED TO STOP. THAT BLEEDING, FOR THE LACK OF BETTER WORDS, AND START THERE. SO I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE PHASE 1 AND WHAT CAN BE DONE AND COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE AND EXPLAIN, HERE ARE THE NUMBERS AND HERE'S WHAT I COULD GENERATE IN ORDER TO HELP PHASE 1, WHICH IS HOW TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE EXISTING O&M MAINTENANCE, WHILE LOOKING AT THE OTHER OPTIONS, WHICH IS THE SECOND PART OF THE STUDY, WHICH INCLUDES POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT A THIRD-PARTY OPERATOR, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN DART, IF WE CAN, IF THAT MAKES ANY FINANCIAL SENSE. AND THEN NUMBER THREE IS THAT, IF YOU RECALL, THERE IS STILL WHAT I CALL THE D2 RESOLUTION THAT SAYS WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH DART ABOUT OTHER THINGS IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO D2. SO THOSE ARE MY THREE ITEMS THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO KIND OF COME BACK AND... WELL, THE SECOND BULLET ON SLIDE 21, ENTITLED NEXT STEPS, SAYS FINALIZE THE O&M REPORT FOR A POTENTIAL CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP TO REDUCE OUR RELIANCE UPON GENERAL FUNDS. SO DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC PLAN IN MIND AS TO? WHEN YOU WOULD BRING THAT INITIATIVE TO THE COUNCIL? I'LL HAVE TO KIND OF GET BACK WITH THE CONSULTING TEAM AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS, BUT CERTAINLY THE SOONER THE BETTER. I'D LIKE TO BRING IT MAYBE, I WOULD SAY, IN THE FALL OF THIS YEAR TO HAVE SOMETHING BECAUSE, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, WE HAVE A STRONG INTEREST IN TRYING TO START MAKING A DENT OUT OF THIS GROWTH OF EXPENDITURE EVERY YEAR OUT OF THE GENERAL FUNDS. WELL, I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL. I THINK THAT IS THE NEXT CRITICAL STEP HERE, IS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL COUNCIL OF A PRACTICAL, SUSTAINABLE SOURCE OF FUNDING THE EXISTING STREETCAR OPERATIONS BEFORE EVEN WE CONTEMPLATE BUILDING ONTO THE SYSTEM. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A SUSTAINABLE REVENUE SOURCE TO BE ABLE TO FUND O&M. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU AND YOUR STAFF WORK ON THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY, I THINK WE'VE COVERED EVERYONE. AND THANK YOU, DR. KANKARLI, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT DON'T GO FAR. NEXT IS ITEM D, WHICH IS DART GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM 2627 PROJECT SELECTION AND [02:20:01] CRITERIA. NOW, ACTUALLY, WE'RE ON ITEM C, THE PREDECESSOR REPORT ON THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? THIS IS THE EXISTING PROGRAM TO SPEND REBATED SALES TAX FUNDS FROM DART FOR THE NINE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED IN THE PACKET. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM D, WHICH IS THE GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM. WHICH IS THE LIST OF PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIALLY QUALIFYING FOR DART GENERAL MOBILITY FUNDS, AND THIS LIST IS DUE TO DART FOR THEIR REVIEW BY JUNE THE 30TH. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PROGRAM? OKAY. YES, VICE CHAIR ROTH. I'M SORRY, JUST AS A CLARIFICATION. IN THE PREVIOUS MEMO, THOSE FUNDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPENDED OR HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, AND WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE STILL OUTSTANDING ON PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN E. THAT IS CORRECT. THOSE WERE WHAT WE GENERALLY REFER TO AS THE EXCESS SALES TAX FUNDS, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EXPEND ALL OF THEM BY APRIL OF 2027. SO WE'RE PROGRESSING TOWARDS THAT GOAL. THOSE FUNDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED. THE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. AND THIS JUST INDICATES THE AMOUNTS THAT ARE STILL ENCUMBERED TO BE FINISHED, THE PROJECT, TO FINISH THE $80 MILLION. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, IF I COULD JUST ADD, THAT REPORT IS REALLY JUST INTENDED TO PROVIDE THIS COMMITTEE SORT OF AN ACCOUNTABILITY REPORT TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE IN COMPLETION OF THOSE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THROUGH THAT PTI PROGRAM. AND THEN WHAT DR. MCCARLEY IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT NOW WITH RESPECT TO THE GMP FUNDS. IT'S A SIMILAR PROGRAM. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE $211 MILLION THAT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT DURING THE DART PRESENTATION. AND THIS IS OUR PRELIMINARY LIST OF PROJECTS, PROJECT TYPES, THAT WE WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THIS COMMITTEE ON. SO THAT WE CAN THEN PROCEED WITH DEVELOPING THE SPECIFICS ON THIS LIST OF PROJECTS OR ANY OTHERS FOR SUBMITTAL TO DART FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION BY THE END OF JUNE SO THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS CURRENT MEMO SO THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED IN MY DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD PROPOSE THAT THAT WOULD BE ON THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WOULD BE USED, THAT WOULD BE PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE USING THOSE FUNDS FOR THESE GMP FUNDS AND WHATEVER ELSE FUNDS YOU'RE HAVING. CURRENTLY THE GMP FUNDS FOR THE FIRST YEAR, REMEMBER THIS LIST IS ONLY FOR THE FIRST YEAR. WELL, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST YEAR. SO THE FIRST YEAR IS ABOUT $21 MILLION, AND THE CITY OF DALLAS TOTAL OVER FIVE YEARS WILL GET $211 MILLION. THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO AND ARE CRITICAL IN OUR PROGRESSION, IF YOU WILL. AND SOME OF THEM ARE ALREADY ALLOCATED THROUGH BOND FUNDS AND THROUGH OTHER FUNDS TOO, RIGHT? JUST, OKAY. ALRIGHTY, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CADEENA. YES, SO FOR THE GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM, I KNOW ONE OF, I'VE BEEN SEEING THE, YOU KNOW, THE DART REPORT TODAY, THE BACHMAN STATION IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST DART STATIONS, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD REQUESTS FOR ASSISTANCE WITH THE CROSSINGS THERE IN THAT AREA, AND SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AT SOME POINT. I KNOW WE PROBABLY HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED THESE PROGRAMS, BUT. UH SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT STATION SINCE IT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST SO UH ITEM NUMBER SEVEN SIDEWALK REPAIRS AND PART OF THE MASTER PLAN THAT WILL KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF THESE UH LOCATIONS AND ACCESS TO THE UH TO THE STATIONS AND CROSSWALKS SO UM THIS IS JUST HIGH LEVEL AT THE MOMENT AND IF THIS COMMITTEE IS GOOD WITH US THEN I WILL WORK ON UH GETTING MORE INTO THE DETAILS ON WHAT IT IS AND AND THEY BREAK DOWN AND SO ON. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE OKAY I THINK THAT INDICATES A CONSENSUS OF SATISFACTION WITH YOUR INITIAL LIST DIRECTOR AND THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM E TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS QUARTERLY REPORT DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT [02:25:01] MEMO COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON THANK YOU UM ON THE APPENDIX A I'M SORRY EXHIBIT A ON PAGE 28 YOU HAVE CROSSED OUT HILLCREST ROAD FRANKFURT TO GEORGE BUSH AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD TELL ME ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE HILLCREST IS IN VERY, VERY BAD SHAPE. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON A PLAN FOR ALL OF HILLCREST. IS THAT WHAT THAT'S ABOUT? IT'S ON PAGE 28. AND IT'S IN THE PINKISH COLOR. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSOHN, WOULD IT BE OKAY IF THE STAFF FOLLOWED UP WITH YOU ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? LET ME FOLLOW UP ON THAT ONE. IF IT IS. THESE ARE PROJECTS CANCELED IN QUARTER ONE DUE TO NOT MEETING CRITERIA FOR THE TREATMENT ASSIGNED OR PLACED ON HOLD DUE TO THE SILVER LINE, DWU CONFLICTS OR OTHER CONFLICTS. SO WE CAN GIVE YOU MORE SPECIFICS ON THIS. THERE COULD BE A PROJECT THAT IS ONGOING LIKE A DWU OR SOMETHING IN THAT AREA THAT PROHIBITS US FROM WORKING ON THE PAVEMENT. SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. ON THIS ITEM E YES MR RON THANK YOU AND AGAIN YEAH I I JUST FIGURED OUT WHAT MY I'VE HAD THE WRONG QUESTION BEFORE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS EXHIBIT E RATHER THAN EXHIBIT D SO WHEN I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE BOND FUNDS AND THE ALLOCATION SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION BUT I THINK THIS ANSWERS MY QUESTION NO PROBLEM THANK YOU OKAY, THEN ON TO ITEM G OUR BRIEFING FORECAST ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT YES, MISS. GOOD. DEAN. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REQUEST THAT PERHAPS WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER OKAY, WE ARE HAVING A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TOMORROW ABOUT THE VIADUCT CONNECTIONS TO AND AFFECTED BY THE CONVENTION CENTER, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OTHER TRANSPORTATION CONNECTIONS? YES. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IN CASE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT MAYBE WE'RE NOT AWARE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I'M A NEW AND HAVE BEEN GONE FOR, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS. SO JUST TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER SURPRISES THAT CAME OUT. CHAIR, I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN THAT, BUT FROM A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT STREETS HAVE TO BE RECONSTRUCTED. AND WHAT THE COSTS ARE BECAUSE THOSE ARE CONVENTION CENTER COSTS AND WE KEEP WELL STILL DO NOT HAVE A BUDGET THAT I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR INCLUDING IN A MEMO STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT FINANCIAL INFORMATION SO WE'RE YOU KNOW ALREADY TEARING DOWN A CONVENTION CENTER WITH NO BUDGET BUT THE NEARBY STREETS THAT ARE BEING DEMOLISHED AND REBUILT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE FINANCIAL COST AND ARE WE PRETENDING THAT'S JUST A TRANSPORTATION COST OR ARE WE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT? AND A COST OF THE PROJECT. DEB? YEAH, CHAIR RIDLEY, WE'LL CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT BRIEFING TO THIS COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE OF WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE AND HOW THEY'RE BEING FUNDED. AND THE ACTUAL COST, PLEASE. YES, I THINK THAT SOME OF THEM MAY STILL BE IN DESIGN, SO WE MAY NOT HAVE ACTUAL COSTS, BUT WE CAN TELL YOU THE PROPOSED COSTS. THANK YOU. SO THAT LEAVES OUR POTENTIAL UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS. WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE ON THOSE ITEMS? OKAY. SEEING NONE, IT IS NOW 3.33 P.M. ON MAY 18TH, AND THE TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE IS NOW ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.