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[Animal Advisory Commission on May 22, 2026.]

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WE OFFICIALLY HAVE QUORUM.

SO AT 9 0 9, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

WE ARE WITHOUT A PERMANENT CHAIR, SO AS WE HAVE DONE THE PAST FEW MEETINGS, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A TEMPORARY ELECT CHAIR FOR THE DURATION OF THE MEETING.

UM, ONCE SOMEBODY HAS BEEN NOMINATED, I'LL JUST NEED A SECOND AND THEN THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE OVER THE MEETING.

I PREPARED, UM, A ORDER OF OPERATIONS FOR THAT TEMPORARY CHAIR.

UM, I HAVE A PHYSICAL COPY, BUT WE ALSO GAVE IT EARLIER.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.

UM, IF I COULD HAVE SOMEBODY EITHER VOLUNTEER OR MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE A CHAIR FOR THE MEETING.

COMMISSIONER SANDERS SECOND.

I'M SORRY, WHO IS THE SECOND? OKAY, PERFECT.

COMMISSIONER CASEY, DO YOU ACCEPT? I ACCEPT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SO ONE MOMENT.

I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A COPY OF THIS.

UH, FROM HERE, TEMPORARY CHAIR ELECTS WILL TAKE OVER THE AGENDA.

I JUST WANT ALL SPEAKERS TO REMEMBER TO PRESS SPEAK ON YOUR MICROPHONES SO THAT EVERYONE CAN HEAR.

ALRIGHT.

WELCOME TO OUR MAY MEETING.

UH, LET'S SEE.

SO WE WILL, UM, GO AROUND AND RECOGNIZE EVERYONE DO A ROLL CALL.

YOU NEED TO SAY YOUR NAME AND THE DISTRICT THAT YOU REPRESENT.

I AM STEPHANIE CASEY, REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE.

LET'S JUST GO AROUND THE SHOE HERE.

BONNIE MATTHIAS, REPRESENTING DISTRICT FIVE, NOELLE DELGADO, REPRESENTING DISTRICT NINE.

LISA FAULKNER DUNN, REPRESENTING DISTRICT 12.

KAREN SANDERS, REPRESENTING DISTRICT 14.

LET'S GO TO THE VIRTUALS.

AARON ES REPRESENTING DISTRICT FOUR, LEE JAMESON REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

UH, THE NEXT ITEM, WE'RE GONNA VOTE TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY MEETING MINUTES.

SO, UH, I NEED TO MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.

SO MOVED.

ALL RIGHT.

BONNIE IS, UH, MAKING THE MOTION.

CAN WE GET A SECOND? SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

APPROVED.

SO FEW PEOPLE.

OKAY.

FANTASTIC.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS NEXT, AND I AM, UH, TO READ THIS STATEMENT.

FOR THE SPEAKERS IN THE ROOM, SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL IMP PERTINENT PROFANE, OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS.

WHILE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION SHALL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM.

SPEAKERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND MAY ONLY ADDRESS THE CHAIR.

SPEAKERS MAY ONLY SPEAK ON POSTED AGENDA TOPICS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OUTSIDE OF AGENDA TOPICS CAN BE EMAILED TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY BOARD COORDINATOR TO BE SHARED WITH COMMISSIONERS AND DAS STAFF FOLLOWING THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU GUYS CAN COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND SPEAK.

AND FIRST WE HAVE DEBORAH, BRANDIS, AND JILLIAN, WE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR TIME HAS STARTED.

CORRECT? GIMME JUST ONE MOMENT.

WE'LL PUT IT UP FOR EVERYBODY.

ALRIGHT, MS. BRANDES, IF YOU'RE READY, JUST LET ME KNOW.

WE'LL START THE TIMER.

OH, AND IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON? OKAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HEAR YOU ONLINE.

OKAY.

NOW IT'S ON.

OKAY, PERFECT.

WE'LL START YOUR TIME.

OKAY.

I LEFT MY, I SENT MY LIST TO MYSELF AND I CAN'T FIND IT, SO I HOPE I CAN REMEMBER WHAT I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT BECAUSE IT'S EARLY AND I'M KIND OF MESSED UP.

I KNOW.

THE ONE THING WAS, UM, WHEN I WAS IN LINE AT DASI DON'T GO VERY OFTEN.

I ALREADY TALKED TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THIS THINGS LIKE, THE LADY BEHIND ME WAS EVICTED.

SHE WAS LIVING IN HER CAR.

SHE HAD HER DOG, SHE HAD HER CATS WITH HER.

AND DAS WOULDN'T TAKE 'EM BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE A WRITTEN EVICTION NOTICE.

WELL, IF YOU JUST CAN'T AFFORD YOUR APARTMENT AND THEY THROW YOU OUT, THEY DON'T ALWAYS GIVE IT TO YOU ON PAPER.

SO ANYWAY, SHE WAS OUT LUCK.

THE PERSON IN FRONT OF ME WAS, UM, SENDING IN A LITTER OF KITTENS, AND THEY TOOK KITTENS.

THEY WERE VERY CUTE, HEALTHY, YOU KNOW.

AND THEN I WENT UP TO THE GUY AND SAID, ARE YOU GONNA FIX THE MOTHER? AND HE SAID, HE WENT AND ASKED HER IN SPANISH, AND SHE SAID, OH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MOTHER IS.

WELL, YOU KNOW, SHE KNEW WHERE THE MONEY MOTHER IS,

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SO THE KITTENS WOULD'VE BEEN DEAD.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT SHE PROBABLY WAS AFRAID SHE WAS GONNA GET IN TROUBLE.

SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER TO HAVE SAID, OH, A, THESE ARE VERY HEALTHY KITTENS.

PLEASE LET US KNOW WHERE THE MOTHER IS.

WE WILL HELP YOU FIX THEM.

AND HE SAID, WELL, I GUESS I COULD GIVE HER ONE OF THESE FORMS ABOUT THE SR MEMBERS.

YES, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

SO, I MEAN, HE WAS VERY NICE, BUT THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

UM, OH, DAMN IT, I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT MY OTHER THINGS WERE.

UM, WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE SR NUMBERS.

OF COURSE.

NO, I MEAN, SPAY, NTER SOCIETY, I GUESS IS A DEAD ISSUE.

UM, WE DID HAVE A PROBLEM WHERE ONE OF THE DAS PEOPLE ACCIDENTALLY LET A CAT GO AT DAS INSTEAD OF WHERE IT WAS CHIPPED TO.

YOU KNOW, MY MIND, I HAD TWO OTHER THINGS I REALLY, REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

AND NOW I CAN'T, FOR THE LIFE OF ME THINK OF WHAT THEY WERE.

SO IF I THINK OF IT, I'LL TELL THE OTHER PEOPLE I THINK YOU CAN EMAIL.

RIGHT.

AND THEN IT'LL BE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL OF US.

YEAH.

BUT THE MAIN THING IS, FOR GOD'S SAKES, WHEN PEOPLE BRING ANIMALS IN, PLEASE AT LEAST TELL THEM.

I WENT AND GAVE THE LADY MY CARD, AND OF COURSE SHE DIDN'T CALL ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SHE LOOKED AT ME LIKE SHE DIDN'T TRUST ME.

AND, UM, SO THAT CAT'S OUT THERE BREEDING SOME MORE.

UM, OH, I DID HAVE PROB I HAVE HAD PROBLEMS, OTHER PROBLEMS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DIVERSION THING WHERE ANIMALS CAN'T GET IN, EVEN THOUGH I KNEW THERE WAS ROOM IN THE CAT ROOM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREETS.

BUT YEAH.

ANYWAY, CAN'T REMEMBER.

TALK LATER.

THANK YOU, DEBORAH.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT WE HAVE KAREN BROPHY.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND JULIAN WILL GIVE YOU YOUR START TIME.

ARE YOU READY? YES, MA'AM.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL START YOUR TIME.

I RECEIVED THE LOOSE DOG COMMUNITY PROJECT REPORT, THE FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES BUDGET AND RELATED EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS AS PART OF A 2025 OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.

EVERYTHING I'M STATING TODAY IS FROM THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST AND IN WRITTEN FORM, I HAD TO PAY $900 FOR THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST.

FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES, NOT MR. RAMON OR THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUDGETED $20,000 IN THEIR INITIAL FISCAL YEAR 2025 PROGRAM BUDGET TO ENGAGE JDR SHELTER STRATEGIES FOR THIS SURVEY.

THAT BUDGET AMOUNT WAS LATER INCREASED TO 22 5 PER WENDY REINER'S AUGUST 2ND, 2024 EMAIL THE DIRECTOR RAMON BO ACTUALLY PAID JVR $41,027 AND 21 CENTS.

THANKS FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND HOW THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT CHANGED SINCE THE COST WAS DOUBLE WHAT WAS INITIALLY BUDGETED.

DR. ROBERTSON IS THE OWNER OF JBR SHELTER STRATEGIES.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, SHE'S ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF SS CREATED THE CONCEPT OF COMMUNITY SHELTERING PASA AIMS TO KEEP ANIMALS IN THEIR HOMES AND THEIR COMMUNITIES.

SO SHE CAME TO THIS PROJECT WITH A PARTICULAR BIAS TO PROMOTE WHAT OTHER VENDORS WERE CONSIDERED FOR THIS PROJECT.

DID O PAY FOR THIS CONSULTING PROJECT INSTEAD OF DAS TO CIRCUMNAVIGATE THE CITY OF DALLAS'S REGULAR PROCUREMENT PROCESS? THE REPORT WAS DELIVERED TO D DAS IN NOVEMBER OF 2024.

THE DATA IN THIS REPORT IS THREE TO FIVE YEARS OLD, SO NOT RELEVANT.

FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAGE 22, IT STATES IN 2022, DAS RESPONDED TO 16,071 SERVICE REQUESTS FOR DOGS LEADING TO 10,071 STRAY INTAKES.

HOWEVER, THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2025 DA'S OWN SEPTEMBER SHELTER REPORT INDICATES ONLY 5,787 LOOSE STARS WERE PICKED UP BY FIELD, OR HALF THE NUMBER.

THE VOLUME OF BLUE STAR INCIDENTS HAS NOT DOUBLED.

AS THE REPORT STATES.

ON PAGE 29, THE REPORT STATES THAT DALLAS COUNTY IS HOME TO APPROXIMATELY 1.18 MILLION PETS SPREAD ACROSS NEARLY 1 MILLION HOUSEHOLDS.

DALLAS COUNTY ISN'T RELEVANT FOR DEATHS IN 2026.

THERE ARE HALF THAT MANY HOUSEHOLDS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, OR 533,915.

SO THE VET EMPLOYEE TO PETS RATIO IS WRONG.

ONE THING I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE WAS THE COMMUNITY SURVEY WAS PROVIDED IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

THERE ARE 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THAT HASN'T CHANGED IN THE DECADE.

THERE WERE ONLY 941 SURVEY RESPONSES TOTAL, WHICH ISN'T A BIG ENOUGH SAMPLE SIZE TO DRAW ANY CONCLUSIONS FROM.

HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN A MORE REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE SIZE IF YOU HAD ANALYZED THE CALLS TO 3 1 1.

SO NOT SURE WHY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

WERE ANY OF THE A A C MEMBERS HERE TODAY CONTACTED BY JVR STRATEGIES WERE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT APPOINTED YOU, WAS THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE A A C GIVEN THE COMPLETE 78 PAGE REPORT? I'M ASKING BECAUSE ON PAGE 43 IN THE INTEGRATED COMMUNITY STRATEGY, THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION

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TO ESTABLISH A COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD.

I THOUGHT WE ALREADY HAD THAT.

ACCORDING TO DA'S OWN APRIL 26TH FIELD REPORT, THERE HAVE BEEN 13 DOG ATTACKS TO HUMANS.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

UH, NOW WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO DR. ROBERTSON, WHO IS GOING TO GIVE US A BRIEF ON THE, UH, CITY OF DALLAS LUCE DOG COMMUNITY PROJECT.

HELLO.

THANK YOU.

UM, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN.

GIVE ME A MOMENT.

DO YOU WANNA GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND ALSO ON YOU, OR IS THAT INCLUDED IN YOUR THAT IS INCLUDED.

OKAY.

AND I CAN, YEAH.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, JUST I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO, UH, CAN YOU SEE MY FULL SCREEN? YES, WE CAN SEE IT.

OKAY, GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO COME HERE TO SPEAK TODAY.

UM, I AM GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE CITY OF DALLAS LUS DOG COMMUNITY PROJECT.

I'M SORT OF HEARING MYSELF ECHO.

IS THE MICROPHONE CLEAR? IT SOUNDS GOOD ON OUR END.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

SO, UM, OUR TEAM, JVR STRATEGIES WAS INVITED BY FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES TO DO A SMALL PROJECT TO CONDUCT AN RFP.

I'M A SHELTER VETERINARIAN.

I'VE BEEN PRACTICING SHELTER MEDICINE FOR 20 YEARS.

JVR STRATEGIES HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 15 YEARS.

AND WHAT WE DO IS WE ANSWER RESEARCH QUESTIONS, UM, WHETHER IT'S IN SHELTERS OR ANIMAL WELFARE SCOPE.

AND THEN FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, WE LOOKED AT SURVEY DESIGN, AS YOU'VE HEARD.

SO I'LL TAKE US INTO THAT.

TODAY WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THE PURPOSE AND SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, OUR METHODOLOGY, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR FINDINGS, AND THEN THE INTEGRATED COMMUNITY STRATEGY THAT WE'RE PRESENTING.

AS YOU HEARD, IN 2022, UM, DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES RESPONDED TO 16,071 SERVICE REQUESTS FOR DOGS LEADING TO THOSE 10,000 STRAY INTAKES.

FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES CAME TO US AND, UM, ASKED US TO DO AN INITIAL PRO PROPOSAL AND A PROJECT.

UM, OUR PROPOSAL WAS SENT IN MARCH AND ACCEPTED IN OCTOBER OF 2023.

AND IN 2024, WE CONDUCTED THIS RFP PROJECT, SUBMITTED THE REPORT IN NOVEMBER OF 2024.

SPECIFICALLY, THE, THE PROJECT WAS SCALED SO THAT IT WOULD LEAD ITSELF TO A MULTI-YEAR LARGE SCALE PROJECT.

OUR GOALS WERE TO SCOPE LOOSE DOG CONCERNS FROM KEY STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, TO EXAMINE WHAT POTENTIAL APPROACHES COULD BE TAKEN TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON LOOSE DOG NUMBERS, TO OBTAIN A GENERAL SENSE OF THE BARRIERS AND INCENTIVES TO IMPACTING THE POPULATION OF ANIMALS.

AND THEN TO DETERMINE THE KEY PARAMETERS TO BE RETAINED IN A FUTURE MULTI-YEAR PROJECT TO COMBAT THIS CONCERN.

MM-HMM .

WE TOOK THOSE PROJECT GOALS AND THEN REFRAMED IT INTO A RESEARCH QUESTION, WHICH WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON, ON HOW OUR SOCIOECONOMIC CONDITIONS, VETERINARY CARE, ACCESSIBILITY, AND COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE ASSOCIATED WITH THE DISTRIBUTION OF LOOSE DOG INCIDENTS.

AND HOW CAN THESE INSIGHTS INFORM THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOME SORT OF INTEGRATED FRAMEWORK FOR MUNICIPAL RESPONSE? OUR METHODOLOGY, UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE PROJECT APPROACH AS WELL AS DATA COLLECTION AND SOME OF THE SURVEY INTERVIEWS AND QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS.

FIRST, WE WERE GIVEN A LIST OF SELECT STAKEHOLDERS FROM CITY DEPARTMENTS, SUCH AS, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ANIMAL SERVICES AND ANIMAL WELFARE GROUPS, INCLUDING THOSE THAT WERE SELECTED ALL BY DAS AND FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.

AFTER RECEIVING AND ATTEMPTING TO CONTACT ALL THESE INDIVIDUALS, WE DETERMINED THAT FURTHER ENGAGEMENT WAS REALLY NECESSARY.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO DO A SURVEY, UM, THAT LED TO US RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEEDED MORE SHELTER DATA, AND WE WANTED TO MAP OUT THE COMMUNITY DATA AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE, UM, IN ORDER TO DO SURVEYING, WE NEEDED SOME, SOME IDEA OF THE COMMUNITY DATA.

A SITE VISIT WAS CONDUCTED BY OUR TEAM, INCLUDING THOSE MEMBERS WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN DALLAS TO MEET COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND CONDUCT IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS.

AND THEN THE SURVEY WAS EXPANDED TO BE SHARED AFTER THE SITE VISIT VIA DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

UM, FURTHER INTERVIEWS, SURVEY DISTRIBUTION OCCURRED OVER THE COURSE OF A FEW MONTHS, AND THEN BOTH THE QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE DATA WAS EVALUATED.

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OUR COMMUNITY SURVEYS AND INTERVIEWS.

UM, THE COMMUNITY SURVEY ITSELF HAD OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS AS WELL AS ONE TO FIVE SCALE.

THERE WERE INTERVIEWS WITH RESIDENTS AND LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS.

WE WENT ON RIDE-ALONGS WITH BOTH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND FIELD SERVICES, AS WELL AS GOING TO SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES WHERE WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WERE, UH, HIGHER PREVALENCE OF LOOSE DOGS.

TEAM MEMBERS WENT TO EACH OF THE DISTRICTS.

THERE WERE 941 PEOPLE THAT COMPLETED THE OPEN-ENDED SURVEY, UH, WITH OVER A HUNDRED INTERVIEWS THAT WERE GATHERED DURING THAT TIME.

WE DID IT IN BOTH SPANISH AND ENGLISH ONLINE AND IN PERSON.

AND WE HAD BILINGUAL, UM, NATIVE SPANISH SPEAKERS ON OUR TEAM WHO SERVED AS FACILITATORS FOR THAT.

WE WERE ASKING QUESTIONS AROUND RESIDENTS EXPERIENCES WITH LOOSE DOGS, CONCERNS ABOUT LOOSE DOGS BEING CHASED, BEING BITTEN, UM, WHAT THE PERCEIVED RISKS OR COMMUNITY NORMS, LOCAL PRIORITIES MIGHT BE, AND IDEAS FOR WHAT SUPPORT OR INTERVENTIONS MAY HELP.

THE QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS THAT WE LOOKED AT, WE GATHERED FOUR DIFFERENT SETS OF DATA.

SO THE TOTAL ANIMAL INTAKES TO DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES SERVICE REQUESTS FOR LOOSE AND LOOSE OWNED ANIMALS, LOOSE AND LOOSE OWNED BITE INCIDENTS, AND LOOSE DOG FIND DATA.

UM, THESE WERE DURING THE 2021 TO 2023 COMBINED YEARLY SEGMENTS.

AND THEN WE LOOKED AT, UH, CONCERNS ON A FIVE POINT SCALE AND ANALYZED THIS ACROSS THE 14 COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

THE QUALITATIVE ANALYSIS WAS FROM THE OPEN ANSWER QUESTIONS AND FROM THE INTERVIEWS.

SO WE, UH, GROUPED ALL THE, UH, THEMES USING INDUCTIVE ANALYSIS INTO SPECIFIC TEXT ANSWERS AND SYSTEMATIC THEMATIC ANALYSIS, MEANING IF THERE WERE CERTAIN THEMES, WE GROUPED THEM TOGETHER, AND THEN WE LOOKED FOR RECURRING PATTERNS, AND THEN WE TRANSLATED THOSE INTO WHATEVER INSIGHTS WE BELIEVE OCCURRED.

SO, LET'S GO INTO THE FINDINGS.

SO THIS IS FOR, UM, DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES DATA, SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE ALL LIKELY ALREADY SEEN, BUT IT'S, UH, THE LOOSE DOG REQUESTS AND HOW THEY'VE CHANGED FROM 2021 TO 2023.

AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE COLLECTING THE DATA, AND WE SAW AN INCREASE IN LOOSE DOG CALL REQUESTS POST COVID, WHICH IS KIND OF A POST COVID EFFECT THAT WE'VE SEEN ELSEWHERE.

AND, UM, STRAY DOG CALLS MAKING UP THE LARGEST SHARE OF THIS DEMAND.

THE SAME THING WITH BITE INCIDENTS, UM, BITE INCIDENTS.

UH, WE, AGAIN, THIS WAS FROM DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES DATA.

WE LOOKED AT STRAY AND OWNED, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BROADER SAFETY ISSUE THAT'S OCCURRED OVER TIME.

OBVIOUSLY, THE SCALE ON THE, UM, VERTICAL AXIS IS, UH, ZERO TO 80, SO IT'S NOT AS LARGE AS THE PREVIOUS GRAPH THAT WE JUST SHOWED.

THEN IT WAS MAPPED AGAINST, UM, A HEAT MAP.

SO LOOKING AT SERVICE REQUESTS OF BOTH LOOSE AND LOOSE OWN TO SEE WHERE MOST OF THESE WERE COMING FROM.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES DOES FOR THEMSELVES AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, IT'S DATA THAT YOU'VE LIKELY SEEN, AND WE MAPPED OUT TOTAL INTAKES AS WELL BY DISTRICT.

SO WE TOOK ALL THEIR INTAKE NUMBERS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A INCREASE IN THE SOUTHERN REGION SOUTH OF THE 40.

AND AFTER TAKING ALL THAT DATA, AND WE LOOKED TO SEE WHERE IT WAS MOSTLY CONCENTRATED, WHICH WERE CERTAIN DISTRICTS.

AND, UM, WHILE WE WENT TO ALL THE DIFFERENT DISTRICT AREAS IN OUR DRIVES, THIS WAS AN AREA THAT WE WERE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN.

WE THEN PULLED, UM, DATA FROM THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND WE MAPPED THAT AGAINST THE SERVICE REQUESTS.

AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS, UM, SOMEWHAT WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT LOWER LOOSE DOG ISSUES RISE WHERE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPORTUNITY FALLS.

SO THE FIRST GRAPH TO YOUR LEFT IS BASED ON EDUCATION, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT SERVICE REQUESTS ARE HIGHER IN AREAS WHERE, UM, FEWER PEOPLE HAVE BACHELOR DEGREES OR HIGHER.

THE MIDDLE GRAPH IS LABOR FORCE PARTICIPATION.

SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IF THERE'S HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT, THERE ARE HIGHER LOOSE DOG CONCERNS.

AND THEN THE GRAPH TO THE RIGHT IS HOUSEHOLD INCOME, WHERE THERE ARE HIGHER LOOSE DOG ISSUES, WHERE THERE'S LOWER HOUSEHOLD INCOME.

AND THIS WAS A DATA SET GIVEN TO US BY DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.

DURING THE TIME OF THIS STUDY, THEY WERE ALSO DOING A STUDY ON FINES.

AND WHAT THIS PARTICULAR, UM, HEAT MAP SHOWS IS THAT ENFORCEMENT OCCURS ALSO, UM, DISPROPORTIONATELY IN THOSE

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SAME REGIONS WHERE WE'RE SEEING, UM, IN THE OTHER GRAPHS, THOSE HIGHER, HIGHER NUMBERS OF STRAY REQUESTS.

SO THE SURVEY, UM, THAT WE, SO THAT WE CONDUCTED HAD A TOTAL OF 941 SURVEY RESPONSES WITH 891 OF THOSE BEING IN ENGLISH, AND 50 OF THOSE BEING IN SPANISH.

YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF RESPONDENTS BASED ON AGE.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE, UM, THE RACE AND ETH ETHNIC IDENTITY RESPONSE BREAKDOWN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, WE DID NOT RECEIVE, UH, WE WERE USING, BY THE WAY, FOR RACE AND AND ETHNIC IDENTITY, THE SAME US CENSUS RACE ETHNIC CATEGORIES.

AND WE HAD 56.8% FROM WHITE AND 27.7% FROM HISPANIC OR LATINX POPULATIONS.

BUT WE DID NOT RECEIVE AS LARGE A BLACK OR AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION AS WHAT WE WOULD'VE WANTED IN THIS STUDY.

SO SURVEY RESPONSES, UH, SHOWED THAT THE GENERAL CONCERN OF LOOSE DOGS IS HIGH.

THAT'S WHAT THE TOP LINE IS.

IT'S A DISTRIBUTION OF CONCERN WITH CONCERN LEVEL BEING FIVE, BEING HIGH, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, GOING FROM ONE TO FIVE WHERE ONE IS LOW, UM, THE CONCERN OF BEING CHASED OR BIDDEN WAS MORE MIXED, WHERE IT WAS EQUALLY, ALMOST EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED BETWEEN THOSE, UM, THAT HAD CONCERNS AND THOSE THAT DIDN'T.

WE FOUND THAT MIDDLE-AGED ADULTS SUPPORTED HIGHER CONCERN ABOUT THE SPECIFIC RESULTS.

UM, IN THESE BOX PLOTS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE MEDIAN AND, UM, IS THAT RED LINE.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITHIN THE BOX, WHICH IS THE FULL RANGE.

AND, UM, AND THAT IT SHOWED, ACTUALLY, INTERESTINGLY, WE HAD, UM, VARIOUS STORIES WHERE THERE WERE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE MET WITH WHO WERE IN THEIR, UM, LATE SEVENTIES WHO SAID, AND FROM HISPANIC COMMUNITIES WHO SAID THAT THEY WERE SO USED TO, TO BEING WITH LOOSE DOGS, THAT IT DIDN'T CONCERN THEM AS MUCH.

AND IN THAT SAME POPULATION, WHEN WE WENT TO A PARTICULAR CHURCH WHERE WE WERE INTERVIEWING, UM, A YOUNGER COUPLE SAID THAT THEY WERE MORE CONCERNED BECAUSE, UH, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO WALK IN THE STREETS WITH THEIR CHILDREN.

SO IT WENT ALONG WITH SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WERE HAVING AS WELL.

THE HISPANIC LATINX RESPONDENTS REPORTED SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER CONCERN THAN WHITE RESPONDENTS ABOUT SPECIFIC RISKS.

AND HERE, WHEN I SAY SIGNIFICANCE, IT'S BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO, TO DO SOME STATISTICS AROUND IT.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WAS HIGH CONCERN, UM, FOR BOTH JUST SEEING LOOSE DOGS AND CONCERN ABOUT LOOSE DOGS, AS WELL AS BEING CHASED AND BEING BITTEN.

AND YET, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TOTAL NUMBERS, THERE'S EQUAL CONCERNS ACROSS, ACROSS THE BOARD WITH, UM, BLACK OR AFRICAN AMERICAN RESPONDENTS.

IT WAS A LIMITED SAMPLE SIZE, SO WE HAVE NO STATISTICAL CLAIMS THERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WERE ALSO DEFINITELY CONCERNS AND HIGHER MEDIAN CONCERNS OF, UH, BOTH THE LOOSE DOGS AND OF BEING CHASED OR BITTEN BY A LOOSE DOG.

UM, THIS IS THE BAR GRAPH OF EXPERIENCES OF BEING, UH, REPORTED SEEING A LOOSE DOG OR, OR IF THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN CHASED OR, OR FORBIDDEN OR INJURED.

AND SO IT WAS A LOOSE, UH, OPEN, IT WAS AN OPEN ANSWER SURVEY QUESTION SO PEOPLE COULD ANSWER IN VARIOUS WAYS.

AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY'VE ANSWERED.

UM, WHAT THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE HAVING OBSERVED OR APPROACHED LOOSE, BEEN APPROACHED THEMSELVES BY LOOSE DOGS.

THERE WERE VARIOUS PROPOSED SOLUTIONS, ACTUALLY QUITE A, QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED.

AND THOSE WERE GROUPED INTO THEMATIC GROUPINGS.

UM, THE MOST FREQUENTLY SUGGESTED SOLUTION WAS HOLDING DOG OWNERS ACCOUNTABLE WITH APPROXIMATELY 33% OF RESPONDENTS ADVOCATING FOR MORE RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP.

UM, THIS REFLECTED A DESIRE FOR STRICTER ENFORCEMENT OF RESPONSIBILITIES ON OWNERS TO PREVENT PETS FROM BECOMING COMMUNITY NUISANCES HAZARDS WAS THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS USED, UH, ABOUT 23, UH, PERCENT, AROUND 2020 TO 23%, UH, DID NOT PROVIDE ANSWERS OR STATED THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT AN EFFECTIVE SOLUTION WOULD BE.

SO THAT'S AT GRAY IN THE BOTTOM.

AND THIS SUGGESTS SOME UNCERTAINTY OR NEED, YOU KNOW, FOR MORE COMMUNITY LEVEL DISCUSSION ON VIABLE SOLUTIONS, ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES WAS APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THE RESPONDENTS.

AND, UM, THAT COULD MEAN IN, IN THE STATEMENTS AND IN THE COMMENTS, EITHER MORE FREQUENT PATROLLING, FASTER RESPONSE TIMES, GENERAL SUPPORT FROM THESE SERVICES IN HANDLING LOOSE DOGS FOR COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND EDUCATION.

UM, RESPONDENTS POINTED TO THAT AT ABOUT 19% OF PARTICIPANTS MENTIONED IMPORTANCE OF

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RESOURCES SUCH AS ONLINE SPACE TO REPORT LOOSE DOGS UTILIZING SERVICES LIKE 3 1 1, PROVIDING SUPPORT SUCH AS FREE FENCES, VETERINARY SERVICES, SPAY, NEUTER, VACCINES, MICROCHIPS, AND SUPPLIES FOR PEOPLE WHO FIND DOGS.

UM, SOMEWHAT SIMILAR PERCENTAGE FOR TEEN PERCENT EMPHASIZED IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGNS.

UM, INCLUDED PROVIDING TRAINING, UM, PROGRAMS, POSTING SIGNS, TEACHING CHILDREN ABOUT DOG SAFETY AND RAISING AWARENESS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF SPAY NEUTER.

AND THEN LEGAL AND LAW, LAW AND LEGAL MEASURES, UM, WAS REFERRING TO STRICTER LEASH LAWS, DOG CONTAINMENT REGULATIONS, POTENTIALLY MANDATING SPAY NEUTER, MICROCHIPPING OF ALL DOGS, UM, MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO BREED DOGS WITHOUT PROPER LICENSE, PROHIBITING LEAVING DOGS OUTSIDE FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME, SUCH AS 24 HOURS.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF, LOT OF DIFFERENT OPEN ANSWER QUESTIONS THERE.

UM, AS WELL AS THE LAST ONE WAS SUPPORTING DAS AND AROUND 8%, UM, SUGGESTED SOLUTIONS LIKE, UM, BUILDING A BIGGER EVEN SECOND SHELTER, PROVIDING MORE FUNDING, HIRING ADDITIONAL STAFF TO HELP MANAGE STRAIGHT UP POPULATIONS EFFECTIVELY.

SO ALL OF THAT WAS TAKEN TOGETHER INTO THESE VARIOUS THEMATIC GROUPS, RIGHT, THAT THERE IS A PREVALENCE OF LOOSE DOG ENCOUNTERS AND THERE ARE SAFETY CONCERNS.

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES? THAT IT WAS QUITE A COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIP WITH LOOSE DOGS.

UM, IN, IN ONE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH A PARTICULAR FAMILY, UM, THERE WAS AN, AN ELDERLY GENTLEMAN THAT SAID THAT, THAT HE FELT STRONGLY, AND THIS WAS AT A, UM, UH, HISPANIC GENTLEMAN WHO SAID THAT HE FELT REALLY STRONGLY THAT DOGS NEEDED TO BE REALLY, UM, REALLY, HE SAID WELL CARED FOR.

HE LOVED HIS DOG, THAT HIS DOG BELONGED IN HIS HOME, AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE LETTING DOGS OUT.

AND THEN HIS NEPHEW CAME AND SAT DOWN NEXT TO ME AND SAID THAT HE TOOK OFF HIS DOG'S COLLAR EVERY MORNING AND WOULD LET HIS DOG, UM, RUN OUT THE DOOR AND, UH, DID NOT HAVE HIS DOG MICROCHIPPED, AND THAT HE ALSO LOVED HIS DOG, BUT HE, UH, LIVED IN AN APARTMENT WHERE HE COULDN'T KEEP THE DOG THERE OVERNIGHT OR, OR DURING THE DAY WHILE HE WAS AT WORK.

SO HE WANTED TO GIVE THE DOG THE, THE BEST SHOT TO, TO NOT GET, UM, EVICTED OUT OF HIS APARTMENT SO THE DOG WOULD BE LET LOOSE DURING THE DAY AND HOPEFULLY WOULD COME BACK IN THE EVENING.

AND SO THIS WAS JUST REPRESENTATIVE OF JUST ONE FAMILY THAT HAD THESE STORIES OF, OF KIND OF A COMPLICATED RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOOSE DOGS WITHIN EVEN THE FAMILY ITSELF.

AND, UM, VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVES THAT WE WERE SEEING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT DOG PARKS THAT WE WENT TO AND THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY AREAS THAT WE WENT TO.

SO, UM, ALL OF THIS POINTED TO KIND OF OVERLAPPING REALITIES THAT IT'S, UM, A ONE SIZE FITS ALL REALLY MISSES THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD REALITY.

AND THAT TRUST REALLY AFFECTED WHETHER PEOPLE WOULD ENGAGE WITH SERVICES OR NOT.

UM, NEIGHBORHOOD SAFETY CONCERNS, UH, REALLY SHAPE PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES AROUND LOOSE DOGS AND ACCESS BARRIERS, ACCESS TO VETERINARY CARE BARRIERS AFFECT CONTAINMENT AND, AND PET CARE.

AND OBVIOUSLY ECONOMIC HARDSHIP, UH, SHAPES WHAT CARE IS POSSIBLE.

AND SO WE PULLED ALL THESE TOGETHER AND THEN BROUGHT IT TOGETHER FOR THE FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES AND FOR A FUTURE, YOU KNOW, LARGER SCOPE PROJECT THAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO, UM, CONDUCT INTO AN INTEGRATED COMMUNITY STRATEGY.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S, UM, TWO CIRCLES.

I'LL JUST TAKE US THROUGH THIS BRIEFLY.

THE INTERNAL FOUNDATIONAL COMPONENTS ALL RELATE TO DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.

THE FIRST IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION.

SO, UM, TAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM, FROM THE PEOPLE WE SPOKE WITH, DEVELOPING MORE INITIATIVES TO DISCUSS RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP WITH PET OWNERS, CONTAINMENT, COMMUNITY SAFETY, ENGAGING, TRUSTED PUBLIC FIGURES CAME UP OFTEN, UM, LOCAL INFLUENCERS LIKE FOLKS FROM THE MAVERICKS AND OTHER, OTHER SPORTS TEAMS, MAYBE SPEAKING ON THIS TOPIC TO RESONATE WITH THE COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT ARE EXPERIENCING MOST OF THESE LOOSE DOG CONCERNS.

THE OUTCOME OF THIS WOULD BE GREATER PUBLIC AWARENESS AND KNOWLEDGE REGARDING RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP, INCREASED COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP OF SOLUTIONS.

THE SECOND IS ENHANCED AND EQUITABLE RESOURCE DISTRIBUTION.

AND SO THAT'S PROVIDING ACCESSIBLE RESOURCES BY COLLABORATING WITH HUMAN SERVICES, WHICH, UM, HAPPENS AT THE SHELTER ALREADY.

BUT THEN WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO EXPAND THAT, TO SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOOD LED PROGRAMS, TO REACH UNDERSERVED AREAS REALLY, UM, EFFICIENTLY.

AND THEN THE OUTCOMES OF THAT ARE TO REDUCE THE BARRIERS TO ADEQUATE PET CARE AND CONTAINMENT AND ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED NEIGHBORHOODS.

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AND THEN THE LAST IS STRATEGIC FIELD AND SHELTER OPERATIONS.

SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO BALANCE THOSE ROLES, TO CONTINUE TO USE THE DATA, WHICH THEY DO USE TO GUIDE LOOSE DOG RESPONSES AND BUILD OUT THE COMMUNITY TRUST THROUGH COMMUNICATION AND RELATIONSHIP FOCUSED OPERATIONS.

AND AGAIN, INTENDED OUTCOME IS TO BALANCE, UM, THAT, THAT INTAKE, THAT COMMUNITY TRUST AND INCLUDE RESPONSIVE COMMUNITY ALIGNED ENFORCEMENT SUGGESTIONS.

THE OUTSIDE OF THE CIRCLE IS BASED ON COMMUNITY CENTERED ORIENTATION, AND HERE WE LOOKED AT COMMUNITY VOICES AND WE WERE COMPARING TO A COUPLE PROGRAMS, UM, ONE IN VIRGINIA AND OTHERS THAT THAT REALLY, UH, WHERE THE SOLUTIONS ARE CO-CREATED BY THOSE PEOPLE EXPERIENCING THE CONCERNS.

AND, UM, BY HAVING DELEGATE ANIMAL SERVICES, UM, PRESENCE REALLY BE VISIBLE, HYPERLOCALIZED APPROACH IS REALLY, UM, GOING BEYOND THE, THE IDEA OF DISTRICTS TO NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE WE WERE SEEING BLOCK TO BLOCK A LOT OF DIFFERENCES IN HOW, UM, THE COMMUNITY WAS APPROACHING LOOSE DOGS, THEIR CONCERNS AROUND IT.

AND ALSO, UM, THEIR, THEIR VIEW OF SOLUTIONS CHANGED NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO HAVING ADAPTABLE RESPONSIVE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO EACH COMMUNITY, AND THEN COLLABORATING WITH HUMAN SERVICES, PARTNERING WITH AGENCIES TO ADDRESS INTERCONNECTED ISSUES, UM, WHICH IS BEING DONE THROUGH CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS LIKE CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEN ALSO ENGAGING WITH, WITH OTHER HUMAN SERVICES AS WELL, WHICH I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR ABOUT.

AND, UM, AT THE TIME WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN, THERE WAS A RACIAL EQUITY PLAN THAT WAS, UM, CENTRAL AND FOCUSED FOR OUR PROJECT.

SO WE WANTED WHOEVER WAS TO COME IN AND DO A LARGER STUDY TO CONNECT THIS WORK TO BACK TO THE RACIAL EQUITY PLAN.

UM, PRACTICAL RESPONSES REALLY LOOK LIKE THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFIC PLANS GETTING, UM, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, LEADERS, COMMUNITY LEADERS TO BE PART OF THESE COMMITTEES, TO BE ABLE TO ADVISE ON THESE PLANS, CROSS-SECTOR PARTNERSHIPS, ACCESS TO RESOURCES, CLEARER PUBLIC COMMUNICATION, AND THEN USING THE DATA FOR FIELD EMPLOYMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES DOES.

AND CONTINUING TO DO THAT.

AND THEN COMMUNITY LED REUNIFICATION SUPPORT.

THE NEXT STEPS THAT WERE PLACED IN THE REPORT, AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF OUR PROJECT WAS TO HELP DEVELOP AN RFP FOR A FUTURE LARGER PROJECT.

SO, UM, WE ACTUALLY EXPANDED THE WAY THAT THE PROJECT OCCURRED, AS YOU SAW.

AND SO TO DEVELOP AN RFP WOULD DEFINE THE GOALS AND THE SCOPE, ENGAGE THE STAKEHOLDERS, ENGAGE COMMUNITY LEADERS, AND SECURE ANY RESOURCES, MONITOR AND EVALUATE WHATEVER METRICS AND BENCHMARKS WERE, UM, GIVEN, AND THEN SCALE THAT, UM, THOSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO JUST CLOSE OUT BY THANKING FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES, THE PEOPLE ON THIS PARTICULAR LIST, INCLUDING PAUL RAMON, KEVIN ACOSTA AS A MANAGER OF ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH IN THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE, AND WHO INTRODUCED US TO MANY INDIVIDUALS INCLUDING HOLY CROSS CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND OTHER FOLKS.

WE DID NOT LIST ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORKED WITH IN THIS, IN THIS SECTION.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I'LL STOP MY SCREEN SHARE.

OKAY.

DR. ROBERTSON? YES.

OKAY.

UM, THERE WAS A SCREEN THAT YOU BREEZED BY, UM, I THINK IT WAS THE INCIDENTS THAT THE WRITING WAS SO TINY WE COULDN'T SEE IT, AND WE DIDN'T SORT OF, UM, GO BIT BY BIT.

YES.

UM, LET ME GO AHEAD AND SHARE MY SCREEN AGAIN.

AND ARE WE GONNA GET A PUBLISH? THAT'S NOT MY OKAY.

PURVIEW.

UH, I'M GOING BACKWARDS THROUGH IT, SO I APOLOGIZE.

WHILE, WHILE YOU'RE, WHILE YOU'RE PULLING THAT UP, DR. ROBINSON.

UM, JUST A REMINDER, WE, WE NEED TO DO THESE IN ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS, SO FEEL FREE TO PULL UP THE SCREEN.

UM, AND THEN WE WILL GO, COMMISSIONER BY COMMISSIONER, FIVE MINUTE ROUNDS, UM, ANSWERS FROM DR. ROBERTSON OR STAFF, DO NOT EAT INTO YOUR TIME, SO WE'LL PAUSE THE TIME FOR THOSE.

YEAH, I, I WOULD SUGGEST WE GO THROUGH THE ROUNDS PROCESS OKAY.

AND ALLOW THOSE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED INDIVIDUALLY.

UH, ALSO TO, I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK DR. ROBERTSON FOR THE EFFORT.

THIS WAS ACTUALLY AN EFFORT THAT WAS IN PUT IN PLAY BEFORE I ARRIVED.

MM-HMM .

UH, AND WHEN I ARRIVED, IT WAS AT THE POINT WHERE I WAS TRYING TO MAKE INTRODUCTIONS WITH CITY LEADERSHIP, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND, AND DOING ALL THAT I COULD TO GIVE HER THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES SHE NEEDED TO CONDUCT THIS STUDY.

SO, THANK YOU.

THAT CORRUPT.

THANK YOU, PAUL.

UM, I, I CAN'T TELL WHO ASKED ME THE QUESTION,

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SO, AND WHICH SLIDE WE'RE REFERRING TO SPECIFICALLY? SO I COULD USE A LITTLE GUIDANCE ON, UM, I GUESS I'LL, DO YOU WANNA JUST START MY TIME, JOANNE? SURE.

WE'LL, UH, RECOGNIZE CHAIR, LET, CASEY, CAN YOU JUST ONE MOMENT TO GET YOUR TIME? UH, OKAY.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE TIMER.

IT WAS A CHARTS ABOUT THE CITIZENS REPORTING INCIDENTS, SPECIFIC INCIDENTS, AND THERE WAS A LIST OF IT, LIKE MOST REPORTED TO, I AM GETTING TO THAT WITHOUT TRYING TO MAKE YOU DIZZY.

, I BELIEVE IT'S THIS.

SO THE TOP SAYS, OBSERVED OR APPROACHED BY LOOSE DOGS.

AM AM I ON THE CORRECT ONE? YES, THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

UM, THE SECOND WAS NO ENCOUNTER.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S THE, THE SECOND LONGEST, IF YOU CAN SEE MY ARROW.

YEP.

I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE MY ARROW.

THE THIRD IS, THIS PERSON KNOWS AN OWNER OF A LOOSE DOG.

SO THEY'RE FAMILIAR THAT OF WHO IT IS.

THE NEXT IS CHASE OR CHAR WITNESS DOG ATTACKING OR INJURING ANOTHER ANIMALS BELIEVES, WITNESSED A STRAY DOG WITNESS, DOG CHASING PEOPLE.

KIDS RESPONDED DOG WAS BITTEN OR ATTACK.

YOU'LL SEE THE BOTTOM, UH, IT'S, THESE ARE LESS THAN 5%, RIGHT? SO THE BAR IS, UH, ATTACKED, INJURED ITSELF, FAMILY OR FRIEND.

UM, THEY HELPED A STRAY DOG.

AGAIN, WE'RE PUTTING IN ALL THE RESPONSES.

SO DOG IS RETRIEVED BY AUTHORITIES OR COMMUNITY WITNESSED A DOG ATTACKING OR BITING A PERSON.

RESPONDENT WAS BITTEN, REPORTED CALLED NO RESOLUTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

SO I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR DAS, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PAUL, YOU DIDN'T ENGAGE THIS, UM, STUDY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A SURPRISE TO ANYONE THAT ALL MOST ISSUES ARE TIED TO SOCIOECONOMIC ISSUES.

UH, DO WE NEED A STUDY LIKE THIS TO GET THE RFP? BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE, WE NEED THIS DATA TO TAKE NEXT STEPS TO GET CITY FUNDING AND GRANT FUNDING, ET CETERA.

AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO START WITH THIS STUDY.

THIS, THIS ALL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

MM-HMM .

UH, THE CITY HAS A, A PROCESS IN PLACE WHERE, UH, IT, THIS STUDY WAS DONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE UNDERLYING ISSUES, UH, THE DATA IS TAKEN THEN TO YOU ALL AND PRESENTED.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY, IT TOOK A BIT OF TIME, AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TRANSITION AND LEADERSHIP AND A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS GOING ON.

SO IT, IT, IT TOOK A MOMENT TO GET THIS OUT.

UH, ONCE YOU ALL HAVE HEARD IT, YOU PROVIDED YOUR FEEDBACK, THEN WE WILL TAKE IT TO QUALITY OF LIFE ARTS AND CULTURE COMMITTEE, UH, PRESENT IT TO THEM WITH THE FINDINGS AND, AND NEXT STEPS ONCE WE HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER OFFICE.

UH, AND THEN IF THEY CHOOSE TO LET IT GO BEFORE FULL COUNSEL, THEN WE WILL TAKE BEFORE FULL COUNSEL, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO SECURE THE FUNDS FOR THE RFP.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN I DO APPRECIATE, UM, DR. ROBERTSON THAT YOU ALSO HELPED PROVE OUT, AND WE'VE HAD THIS IN OTHER STUDIES BEFORE.

IT WAS IN THE BOSTON CONSULTING GROUP STUDY AS WELL, ABOUT REALLY ENGAGING WITH OTHER, UH, UNITS IN DALLAS, LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT, SOCIAL SERVICES.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT WE'RE WORKING ON STUFF WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT AND COLLABORATING TO DO, YOU KNOW, CROSS COLLABORATION EFFORTS.

SO I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, WE, WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IN ORDER TO REACH PEOPLE.

AND IT, IT CROSSES OVER.

THIS WORK CROSSES OVER WITH ALL THOSE THINGS, UM, PRETTY HEAVILY.

SO, UM, YES.

I, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU DR. ROBERTSON FOR YOUR REPORT.

AND, UM, I'LL PASS THE MIC HERE TO, UH, COMMISSIONER MATTIAS.

OKAY.

GIMME ONE SECOND.

AND I WILL START YOUR TIMER.

UM, I'LL HAVE TO RESTART IT.

OKAY.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

IT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

I, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME STUFF THAT WE HEARD IN 2007.

HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS THAT? 22, 23.

UM, SO I, I HOPE THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT, UH, INSTEAD OF, I DON'T KNOW, PUSHING IT UNDER THE RUG AGAIN.

UH, BUT I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE.

IT'S, UH, IT'S GREAT.

THANKS.

IF, IF I COULD RESPOND, UH, WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN TAKING SOME OF THIS INFORMATION AND UTILIZING IT IN UNDERSTANDING THE BARRIERS, THE SOCIOECONOMIC BARRIERS, THE COMMUNICATION BARRIERS, THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITY BARRIERS, UH, AND THE AGE GAP, UH, AS WELL.

UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FIELD OFFICE TO INCORPORATE IT, A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM.

BUT OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE RESOURCES YOU HAVE, THOSE ABILITIES ARE LIMITED.

BUT WE, WE ARE DOING THE

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BEST THAT WE CAN.

UH, OUR NEW MARKETING TEAM, A FOUR PERSON TEAM NOW IS DOING A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH YOU'LL HEAR IN THE DIRECTOR'S PRESENTATION, UH, AND UNDERSTANDING, UNDERSTANDING THE BARRIERS AND THE GAPS.

LIKE YOU SAID, WORKING WITH PARKS, WORKING WITH PD, WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY CARE.

WE, IN THE NEXT BRIEFING, YOU'LL HEAR SOMETHING, UH, NEXT BRIEFING IN AUGUST, YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT A NEW COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH, UH, COMMUNITY COURTS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING.

WE'RE NOT GONNA WAIT FOR RP, WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

AND WE'VE ALREADY PUT SOME OF THIS STUFF IN THE PLAN.

FANTASTIC.

COMMISSIONER DELGADO.

SO ONE SECOND, I'LL RESTART.

OH, I'M GONNA YIELD, BUT I THINK THIS WAS GREAT.

OH, BEAUTIFUL.

OKAY.

WELCOME OR DONE WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

UM, YES, I'M READY.

SO, I, THIS IS GREAT.

I THINK IT'S, I THINK WE ALL KNEW ALL THESE THINGS, BUT THIS IS GREAT THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S WRITTEN DOWN AND WE HAVE, AND WE CAN LIKE QUANTIFY IT, WHICH IS GONNA HELP GOING FORWARD.

IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT THIS, THAT THIS INFORMATION COULD BE USED FOR GRANT OUTREACH, FOR OTHER GRANTS, FOR OTHER THINGS BESIDES DA FUNDING, WHICH WE KNOW THE CITY IS CUTTING FUNDING, OR THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT CUTTING FUNDING TO EVERYONE, BUT, UM, BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT, UH, START TO REACH OUT TO, UM, OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT WOULD HAVE MONEY.

UM, AND I DO SEE, AND I'VE BEEN TO SOME OTHER SEMINARS ON THIS, BUT THE FEAR OF EVICTION DRIVES SO MANY BAD DECISIONS.

AND THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICES.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE LETTING THE DOG BOOST DURING THE DAY, OR NOW THEY'RE GONNA BE, I'M WORKING WITH A GIRL RIGHT NOW WHO'S USING HER BOYFRIEND'S DOG, AND NOW SHE'S GONNA BE EVICTED BECAUSE SHE KEPT HER BOYFRIEND'S DOG.

SO IT'S, UM, AGAIN, I THINK HOUSING IS SO TIED TO SO MANY OF THE, THE DOG.

SHE, AS WE ALL KNOW.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A PLACE TO START WITH, UM, GRANTS BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST LITTLE MILK, IT'S, IT'S HELPING KIND.

BUT I YIELD, THAT'S IT.

BUT THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS, BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'LL BE USEFUL.

YEAH.

AND JUST TO ELABORATE ON THAT, WE, WE, OUR, OUR PARTNERS IN COMPLIANCE DO A LOT WITH MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES.

THEY HAVE SYMPOSIUM, THEY HAVE CONVERSATIONS, AND I'VE REACHED OUT TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, INCLUDING US TO TALK ABOUT RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP AND SOME OF THE FEAR THAT SOME OF THESE LEAKS IN OFFICES MAY HAVE.

'CAUSE WE ARE ALSO COLLECTING THAT DATA ON SURRENDER, FIND OUT WHAT ARE WE GONNA LINE THE ISSUES.

UM, CAN I ADD TO THAT TOO, PAUL, ARE YOU COMPLETE THAT, THAT TOTALLY UP TO YOU.

YEP, PLEASE.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE, WHEN YOU MENTIONED GRANT FUNDING, I MEAN, THERE ARE GROUPS THAT ARE NATIONAL GROUPS THAT WILL FUND PROJECTS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERYONE FROM PETSMART CHARITIES TO BISSELL TO MADDIE'S FUND TO, UH, PETCO LOVE.

UH, AND, AND SO THERE ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND JUST ADDING TO THE CONVERSATION BY SAYING, THERE, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND YOU COULD READILY TAKE THIS.

OR DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES COULD, AND THEN COME UP WITH A PROJECT AND ASK FOR FUNDING FROM ONE OF THOSE SOURCES.

THANK YOU.

UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER SANDERS ONCE JULIAN SAYS YOUR TIME IS READY.

ALRIGHT.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

UM, HI.

UM, I WANNA THANK, UH, UH, DR. ROBINSON FOR COMING AND INTO SPEAKING ABOUT THIS.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN WAS, UM, THIS COMPLETED SURVEY GIVEN TO, UH, FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES? UH, THE, WHEN WAS THE WHOLE REPORT OR THE YEAH, YEAH.

WHEN WAS REPORT? IT WAS GIVEN NOVEMBER OF 2024.

OKAY.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY IT'S TAKING SO LONG FOR US TO HEAR ABOUT IT.

.

WELL, THE FIRST BRIEFING IN 2025 FOR THE QUARTER YEAH.

WAS IN FEBRUARY.

AND AT THAT TIME IS WHEN WE HAD TRANSITIONS BEGINNING TO START.

I WAS JUST, SORRY, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE, I'M, IT TOOK A MOMENT.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

YEAH.

SO, UM, SO THAT'S GREAT.

AND THEN I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE ON THE RECORD.

AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO THANK, UM, PAM FOR TAKING THE TIME AND SPENDING THE MONEY WITH OUR OPEN RECORDS ON THIS CASE.

AND SO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE COMPETITIVE.

I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION MAYBE SOUNDED LIKE I WAS, BUT I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE BROUGHT UP BECAUSE SHE DID SPEND HER TIME AND HER MONEY.

SO I WANTED TO GO BACK THROUGH THAT AND ASK, UM, WHY WAS THE COST INCREASE, UH, BUDGET GONE FROM 20 TO 40,000? AND, AND TO MAYBE I GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE.

RIGHT? OR MAYBE SHE MISINTERPRETED IT OR SHE NEEDED EXTRA DATA.

SO WHY DID THE INCREASE GO FROM 20 TO $40,000? UM, AND THEN IS IT TRUE THAT IT WAS A SURVEY OF DALLAS COUNTY VERSUS DALLAS CITY, UM, AND WHY WOULD THE DECISION MADE BE MADE TO, UH,

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TO ASK TO SURVEY THE WHOLE COUNTY INSTEAD OF JUST THE CITY? SO I'LL LET YOU ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

I HAVE SOME OTHER ONES.

AND THOSE WERE THE FOLLOW UP.

YES.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS TO INTERVIEW INDIVIDUALS AND TO MEET ONE-ON-ONE WITH INDIVIDUALS.

THE SURVEY WAS THE EXPANSION OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF RESPONSE, TO BE HONEST ON THE INTERVIEWS.

AND SO THE WHOLE SITE VISIT, EVERYTHING ELSE WAS WITH THE SURVEYING.

UM, WHICH, WHICH IS WHAT THAT SECONDARY COMPONENT WAS.

THE, UM, CITY WAS THE ONLY, UM, DALLAS CITY WAS WHERE THE SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED.

AND WE TOOK OUT ANY COUNTY, UM, DATA.

SO, SO EVERYONE WHO WAS SURVEYED WAS FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS.

UM, SPECIFICALLY OUR DRIVE BYS MIGHT HAVE INCLUDED SOME OTHER COMPONENTS, BUT WE WERE PHYSICALLY DOING THIS WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

YEAH.

AND IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, THE, THE ORIGINAL SCOPE AND AND PRODUCT THAT WAS PROVIDED WAS REALLY ENT ON THOSE RESPONSES.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE A LACK OF RESPONSE, YOU GOTTA DIG A LITTLE DEEPER.

YOU GOTTA GET BOOTS ON THE GROUND, YOU GOTTA GO HAVE CONVERSATIONS.

UH, WE'VE REACHED, WE REACHED OUT AT THAT TIME TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO REACHED OUT TO, UH, FORMER COMMISSIONER.

WE REACHED OUT TO OTHERS.

AND, UH, SOME DID RESPOND AND DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS, BUT, UH, I THINK THE REAL MEAT OF THE CONVERSATIONS NEEDED TO HAPPEN IN THE COMMUNITY, THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE REALLY EFFECTIVE.

YEAH.

LEADS ME TO ANOTHER QUESTION IS HOW WERE THE SURVEYS DISTRIBUTED? I, I OBVIOUSLY, BUT I HEAR YOU WENT THROUGH THE, UM, ARTS, UM, AND THE ARTS COMMISSION TO HELP MAKE THE, UM, INITIAL, UH, INTRODUCTIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S AMAZING.

I'D LOVE THAT CROSS, UM, COMMITTEE OR CROSS, UM, DEPARTMENTAL, UM, COORDINATION, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

WE NEED MORE OF THAT AS, UH, COMMISSIONER CASEY SAID.

UM, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, HOW DID THE SURVEYS GO OUT? WERE THEY, DID THEY GO OUT THROUGH MAIL? WERE THEY TEXTS? WERE THEY EMAILS AND 'CAUSE, 'CAUSE AGAIN, 941 RESPONSES IS PRETTY LOW.

AND AS, AS, UM, UH, DIRECTOR RAMON JUST SAID, WE DIDN'T GET INITIAL RESPONSES THAT WE ANTICIPATED IN THE BEGINNING.

SO, UM, HOW WERE THOSE PEOPLE DETERMINED? HOW DID WE FOLLOW UP WITH THEM? AND THEN HOW DID WE EXPAND THAT LIST? UM, AND YEAH.

AND, AND WHAT WERE THE DISTRIBUTION MEANS? UM, THANKS.

YEP.

THE DISTRIBUTION, AND THIS WILL HELP, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU SAID WE ARE GONNA HAVE FUTURE ONES TOO.

SO THESE QUESTIONS HELP AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND GET BETTER RESPONSES OR MORE, UM, THOROUGH RESPONSES.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THE DISTRIBUTION WAS DONE VIA IN PERSON DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.

SO LIKE IN WEBSITES, SOCIAL MEDIA, NEXT DOOR, UH, INDIVIDUAL RESCUES AND GROUPS, SHARING IT OUT AT DOG PARKS, UM, THROUGH THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT OFFICES THAT WE ALREADY MENTIONED.

SO ANIMAL SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAD IT, UH, ARTS AND CULTURE, I'M GONNA SAY, AND THIS COULD BE THE SAME OFFICE, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY WAS, UM, THE, AT THAT TIME I BELIEVE, UM, WAS WHAT IT WAS CALLED.

SO IT MIGHT HAVE INCLUDED OTHER AREAS.

AND THEN, UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS IT.

AND SO I WILL SAY FOR A SURVEY THAT HAD NO INCENTIVES BEHIND IT, RIGHT? SO WE WEREN'T INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE TO COME AND DO ANSWERS.

900, UH, CLOSE TO A THOUSAND IS, IS ACTUALLY OF PRETTY REASONABLE NUMBER TO COME BACK.

I RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE CITY COMING BACK, BUT THE FACT THAT, UM, 941 PEOPLE WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN RESPONDING WAS A LOT, A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE VERY INTERESTED IN RESPONDING TO SOMETHING.

SO I WANNA JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE PEOPLE FOR, FOR RESPONDING TO THIS.

IF, IF I, IF I COULD ADD, UH, TO THAT TOO, DR. ROBINSON, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CHURCHES THAT YOU GUYS WENT TO AS WELL.

UH, 'CAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO A CHURCH, THAT'S A HUGE BODY OF FOLKS TO TALK TO.

YEAH, YEAH.

AND THEN, SO, SO YES, THERE, THERE WERE, UM, MULTIPLE CHURCHES.

THERE WERE, UM, FLEA MARKETS, UH, THERE, THERE WAS, UH, LET'S SEE, FARMER'S MARKET, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS AS WELL.

SO, UM, SO HOW DID THOSE, UH, RESPONDENTS MATCH UP WITH THE HEAT MAPS FOR THE LOCATIONS THAT HAD MORE OF THE BITES? SO WERE THE RESPONDENTS PRIMARILY WITHIN THOSE HEAT MAP AREAS, OR DID YOU FIND THAT THEY WERE OUTSIDE? SO IN, LIKE MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT 14 IS NOT A HEAT MAP OF, OF DOG BITES.

WE HAVE PET ISSUES, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE INTERVIEWING

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MORE PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT, THEY MIGHT HAVE MORE FEAR BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO SEE THAT, UM, IF THOSE MAPS OVERLAID ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

MM-HMM .

THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING THING THAT WE WERE TRYING TO DETERMINE AS WELL, BECAUSE WE HAD CROSS STREETS, AND DEPENDING ON HOW PEOPLE ANSWERED, IT BECAME REALLY DIFFICULT IF THEY SPELLED A STREET NAME WRONG OR, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THEY PUT IN THEIR, BECAUSE RATHER THAN ASKING FOR, FOR LIKE ZIP CODE, THE QUESTION WAS CROSS STREETS, RIGHT? UM, AND SO FROM OUR INTERVIEW PROCESS, WE WERE TARGETING AND, AND WENT TO THOSE AREAS ON THE HEAT MAP THAT HAD THE HIGHEST NUMBERS OF LOOSE DOG INCIDENTS.

WE ALSO WENT TO, UM, ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS, BUT WE KEPT THOSE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS SEPARATE SO THAT WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GETTING THE MAJORITY FROM, UM, THOSE AREAS THAT WERE HEAVILY IMPACTED.

NOW, THAT'S FOR THE IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS.

FOR THE SURVEYS, IT WAS MORE BROADLY DISTRIBUTED.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S A HARD ONE TO FIGURE OUT, RIGHT? IF YOU DON'T SPELL THE NAME OF THE STREET RIGHT.

AND SO ON.

SO I DON'T THINK I CAN MAP IT ONTO IT ONE-ON-ONE.

YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, LIKE, IF, IF A GROUP WAS TO COME BACK, YOU KNOW, I THINK BOSTON CONSULTING MIGHT HAVE DONE A BROAD SURVEY, AND IF I RECALL, LIKE THEY DID LIKE A FULL CITYWIDE, I, I DON'T RECALL HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN THEIR SURVEY.

UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THEIR CONTRACT WAS, YOU KNOW, QUITE, QUITE BIGGER THAN WHAT OURS WAS.

SO THEY HAD MORE RESOURCES, I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, HAVING THE STREETS OR MAYBE A PHYSICAL MAP THAT PEOPLE COULD POINT TO OR CLICK ON SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THOSE KINDS OF ERRORS IN SERVING ANSWERS.

THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THAT ESPECIALLY AS WE, BECAUSE THE INFORMATION IS, IS AMAZING, YOU KNOW, AND IT, IT DOES MIMIC A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE HEAR IN THE FIELD AND THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ALL THESE YEARS.

SO IT IS REALLY NICE TO HAVE A SURVEY THAT ACTUALLY ENFORCES WHAT WE KIND OF KNOW TO BE TRUE OUT THERE.

OUR FIELD PEOPLE KNOW THAT, RIGHT? SO IT'S NICE.

SO, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU SPOKE ABOUT HAVING ADDITIONAL, UM, BROADER SCOPE, AND SO HAVING THAT INFORMATION, HOW COULD WE DO IT BETTER NEXT TIME? UM, MORE TARGETED AND HAVE THE INFORMATION, UM, AND THE DEBT DATA BE MORE SPECIFIC WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

SO, UM, I KNOW MY TIME IS, IS LOOKING DOWN.

I LOVE THE NEW BOOK, JILLIAN.

THANK YOU.

UM, MY QUESTION THEN IS, UM, HOW, THEN USING YOUR INFORMATION, DO WE WORK BETTER WITH OUR, UH, PEOPLE INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITIES WITH OTHER RESCUES? LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, ARE YOU WORKING WITH ANY RESCUES OR ANY SHELTERING OTHER COMPANIES WITHIN DALLAS THAT WE COULD WORK TOGETHER WITH TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND MAKE IT, UM, TO BRING IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY? UM, HAVE YOU WORKED WITH, SAY, SBCA OR OPERATION KINDNESS OR ANY OF THE OTHER BIG, UM, COMMUNITY PEOPLE? AND IF SO, HOW COULD WE COORDINATE A MORE CITYWIDE SOLUTION? AND AGAIN, LIKE, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER CASEY SAID, UH, HOW CAN WE WORK BETTER WITH OTHER DIVISIONS LIKE THE ARTS AND CULTURE, LIKE THE PARKS? UM, LIKE, UH, I DON'T KNOW.

SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WE MENTIONED RIGHT NOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SCANNERS, UM, WITH THEM AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, UH, FOR MICROCHIPS.

SO, UM, I, MY COUNTERS, I'LL LEAVE THAT LAST QUESTION TOO.

OH WAIT, I DID HAVE ONE OTHER.

UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE USING 3 1 1 AND IN THE COMMUNITY? WERE PEOPLE FINDING THAT THE RESPONSES TO 3 1 1, THEY WERE SATISFIED WITH THAT? UM, AND THAT WOULD BE MY LAST QUESTION.

SORRY TO TAKE SO MUCH, BUT I, I LIKE SURVEYS.

SORRY, .

I'M GLAD YOU LIKE SURVEYS.

UM, SO FROM, FOR THE FIRST QUESTION, UM, YES.

I MEAN, OPERATION KINDNESS, WE KNOW VERY WELL, UH, JAMESON, UH, I'VE MET WITH DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS.

AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE ON OUR TEAM WORKS FOR OPERATION KINDNESS.

SO YES.

UM, WE, WE COLLABORATE THERE.

UM, TEXAS SPCA, THE PERSON WHO STARTED THIS PROJECT, MELISSA WEBER, LIKE OBVIOUSLY WORKS THERE.

AND SO YES, THERE'S ALREADY COLLABORATION WITH TEXAS SPCA.

IT'S UP TO, UM, PAUL PROBABLY TO DISCUSS HOW THOSE COLLABORATIONS WORK AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS FOR WORKING THROUGH THAT.

UM, OUR PURPOSE FOR THE RFP INITIALLY WAS THAT IT, IT, LIKE, WHOEVER TAKES THIS WORK ON NEEDS TO BE LOCAL AND NEEDS TO BE WITHIN THE LOCAL LANDSCAPE OF ANIMAL WELFARE.

SO, UM, SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT TO BE WORKING WITH THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, YOUR OTHER QUESTION, UH OH, PAUL, DO YOU REMEMBER

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CAN, UH, 3 1 1 AND OH 3 1 1, SORRY, 3 1 1.

UM, AND I, I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE EFFECTIVENESS OR 3 1 1 VERSUS NOT.

SO THAT WASN'T SOMETHING WE WERE .

YEAH.

AND WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS DOES IS ON A GRANULAR LEVEL, LET US KNOW WHAT ORGANIZATIONS WE NEED TO, UH, HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH AND WHERE THEY NEED TO BE DEPLOYED.

UH, IN LOOKING AT THOSE LEAP MAPS, YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT SOUTH OF I 30 IS WHERE A LOT OF THE ISSUES ARE.

UH, AND THEN, UH, 3 1 1 DOES ITS OWN SURVEYS, UH, AS FAR AS, YEAH.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE I CAN ASK, UH, DAISY IF SHE'D LIKE TO COME PRESENT POSSIBLY ON WHAT THEY'RE SEEING.

BUT, UH, WE, SO WE, THAT COULD BE IN THE NEXT BRIEFING.

YEAH.

WE ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, SMU, UH, ABOUT SOME MARKETING AND OUTREACH AND CONVERSATIONS.

SO YEAH, THAT WAS LOOKED INTO.

SO THAT WILL BE IN THE NEXT BRIEFING.

UH, 'CAUSE IT HAPPENED IN THIS ONE.

SO, UM, I, I HOPE THAT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

YEAH.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE VIRTUAL, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

LET'S SEE.

UM, UH, MS. JAMESON, COMMISSIONER JAMESON, COMMISSIONER JAMESON, JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY AND WE'LL START YOUR TIME.

I'M READY NOW, THANK YOU.

OH, GO AHEAD.

YOU GOOD? YES.

SO I WAS RAISED IN DISTRICT ONE, UM, AND THAT IS MY CONSTITUENCY AS WELL.

I RUN MY BUSINESS HERE.

I RUN MY, UM, ANIMAL RESCUE HERE AS WELL.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING HERE.

SO GROWING UP HERE, I'VE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, ARE THE ANIMAL ISSUES TIED TO LOW INFORMATION AND LOW EDUCATION WITH REGARD TO ANIMAL WELFARE AND ANIMAL, WHAT IS JUST THE BASICS THAT NEED TO BE DONE AND ARE REQUIRED FOR COMPLIANT PET OWNERSHIP? THE OTHER QUESTION IS, IS IT LOW RESOURCES? WE'VE LOST A LOT OF OUR VETERINARY RESOURCES, UH, JUST SINCE COVID.

SO THAT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS LOW COMPASSION.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS KIND OF AN AGE GAP THING.

UM, SOME PEOPLE TRY TO USE THE WORD CULTURALLY.

I HATE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW ANYONE WHO THINKS CRUELTY IS A PART OF THEIR CULTURE.

UH, THAT REPULSES ME WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT.

SO, UM, WHAT I DIDN'T SEE HERE WAS THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

I SAW A LOT OF CORRELATIONS, AND I LOVED THE, THE EDUCATION HEAT MAPS AND, AND ALL OF THAT.

THAT WAS, AND SOCIOECONOMIC HEAT MAPS, THAT'S INCREDIBLE.

MY CHALLENGE, THOUGH IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO TEND TO RESPOND TO SURVEYS AT ALL, OR TEND TO BE AT CHURCHES AND, AND THE PLACES THAT YOU WENT, THOSE PEOPLE TEND TO BE JOINER TYPE PEOPLE.

AND BY THAT I MEAN PEOPLE WHO ARE PRIVILEGED AND OF THE RIGHT AGE GROUP TO RESPOND ONLINE, TO BE ENGAGED IN SOCIAL MEDIA, WHO HAVE THE WIFI AND TECHNOLOGY TO DO SO, OR CAN RESPOND, UM, WITHOUT, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A PAPER PAMPHLET OR AN INTERVIEW SITUATION WITHOUT FEAR OF RETALIATION FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, SPECIFICALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, 7 5 2 1 1, THEY'RE AFRAID OF RETALIATION FROM ICE.

THEY DON'T WANT THEIR NAME ASSOCIATED AS A HISPANIC LAST NAME.

THEY DON'T WANNA BE IDENTIFIED AS A PROBLEM CAUSER.

THAT'S A REAL THING MY NEIGHBORS HAVE TOLD ME, OR RETALIATION FROM LANDLORDS, IF THEY'RE COMPLAINING AND SAYING, THE REASON MY DOGS GET OUT ALL THE TIME IS MY LANDLORD WON'T FIX THE DARN FENCE.

YOU KNOW, SO WHEN I'M SEEING THIS, THAT THE LACK OF AFRICAN AMERICAN PARTICIPATION WAS JUST ASTOUNDING TO ME AND VERY TROUBLING, RIGHT? UM, THE, THE LOWER RESPONSE FROM HISPANIC, UM, OR LATINX WAS TROUBLING.

UM, BUT IN GENERAL, THAT REINFORCES MY THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO RESPOND ARE THE JOINER TYPES.

SO WHAT DO WE DO? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE ENGAGE THESE PEOPLE? AND BECAUSE I MEAN, IF, IF THEY'RE OF AN AGE GROUP THAT THEY ARE NOT A DIGITAL NATIVE, THE MORE STUFF WE PUT ON, YOU KNOW, I SEE PEOPLE WILL FIND A DOG ALL THE TIME.

WELL POST IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

MEMAW OVER HERE ISN'T ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

YOU KNOW, GET OUT THERE AND PUT UP A SIGN, BUT SHE ALSO MAY BE MOBILITY CHALLENGE AND DOESN'T LEAVE HER HOUSE.

SO THESE ARE ALL THOUGHTS THAT I'VE HAD JUST IN GENERAL ABOUT ANIMAL WELFARE WITHIN MY CONSTITUENCY ABOUT HOW, HOW DO WE ENGAGE ON ALL FRONTS? HOW DO WE GET A REAL RESPONSE? 'CAUSE AGAIN, A RESPONSE IN THE NINE HUNDREDS WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TOOK, REALLY, AND, AND A FEW YEARS OLD DATA REALLY ISN'T GIVING US WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT, UH, IT DOES.

AND I'LL SAY THAT WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT A LOT, WHICH IS WHY THE CHURCHES LIKE HOLY CROSS CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT WE WENT TO WAS BOTH IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH WITH THE PREDOMINANT POPULATION, AS YOU LIKELY KNOW, BEING AFRICAN AMERICANS AND LATINO.

OUR TEAM WAS ALL BIPOC.

AND SO WE CAME WITH NATIVE, NATIVE SPANISH SPEAKERS AND WENT TO IVCC.

WE, UM, SPENT OUR TIME IN LINE FOR, WITH PEOPLE WHO WERE RECEIVING, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES

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AT IVCC AND LOCATIONS LIKE THAT.

AND SO THE INTERVIEW RESULTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING COME PREDOMINANTLY FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES, UM, THE STREET TO STREET WITH ANGIE RAMIREZ AND GOING TO LIKE THE LOCATIONS WHERE, WHERE SHE GOES, UM, BLOCK BY BLOCK.

AND I BELIEVE THAT'S AN AREA THAT, UH, PAUL CAN LET US KNOW WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS THOSE ARE.

BUT IT'S AREAS THAT, LIKE HE, HE, HE HAD MENTIONED TO TO ME THAT HE HAD KIND OF GROWN UP IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH MIGHT BE IN YOUR DISTRICT AS WELL.

UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THE CHURCHES, UM, LIKE SHAWNEE JOHNSON, GOING TO THESE LARGER CHURCHES WERE, WERE PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN CHURCHES AND HISPANIC CHURCHES.

AND I THINK, I APOLOGIZE, I WASN'T CLARIFYING MY, SO AGAIN, CHURCHES ARE JOINER TYPES.

PEOPLE JOIN, WHO RESPOND ARE JOINER TYPES, RIGHT? UM, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME GIVE A BETTER EXAMPLE.

SO IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING WITH PEOPLE WHO BRING IN DOGS TO DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES WHEN THEY FIND LOOSE DOGS.

THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE TIME AND TRANSPORTATION TO DO SO.

SO THE ZIP CODES THAT WE'RE GATHERING FOR THE HEAT MAPS, UH, YOU KNOW, OF THE, OF THESE FOUND DOGS, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHERE THE LOOSE DOGS ARE.

THAT'S WHERE THE CLOT DOGS ARE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE THING.

AND SO, WHAT, WHAT I'M SEEKING IS HOW DO WE HOW DO WE IN, HOW DO WE KNOW ABOUT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE ARE PEOPLE SAYING, I DON'T EVEN CALL THREE ONE ONE.

I DON'T CALL 3 1 1.

I'M NOT GONNA GET LISTENED TO.

I'M, I'M USED TO NOT BEING LISTENED TO.

I'M OF A SOCIOECONOMIC LEVEL OR AGE OR CULTURE, WHATEVER, WHERE I DON'T GET LISTENED TO.

SO WHY BOTHER? HOW DO WE ENGAGE THOSE PEOPLE? HOW DO WE ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE WHO AREN'T, YOU KNOW, I'M AT DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES, PAUL WILL TELL YOU, UM, EVERY SINGLE WEEK, BRINGING IN ANIMALS I'VE FOUND, OR, OR SOMEONE STANDING IN LINE BEHIND ME HAS FOUND, AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO WORK, AND THEY HAVE, THEY GOTTA LEAVE RIGHT.

SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY CAPTURING THEIR ZIP CODE DATA.

I HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO BRING 'EM IN.

RIGHT.

SO I'M, I'M JUST, I, I LOVE THIS WORK.

I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

WHAT I'M SEEKING IS WHO DO WE MISS AND WHY DO WE MISS THEM, AND HOW DO WE UNMIS THEM? BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE PRIVILEGED ENOUGH TO NOT BE SCARED TO RESPOND OR, OR BE OUT OF THEIR HOUSE RESPONDING.

RIGHT.

I, I LOVE THIS.

YEP.

AND THAT, THAT'S THE, UM, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT LIKE WHAT STRATEGY TO THINK ABOUT, I THINK IT'S THAT HYPER LOCALIZED NEIGHBORHOOD RESPONSE, GETTING THE LOCAL INFLUENCERS, UM, EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THAT PERSON, RIGHT? LIKE, HAS THAT PERSON THAT PEOPLE TURN TO AND ARE LIKE, OKAY, THIS, THIS IS SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO AND TRUST AND FEEL SAFE AROUND.

AND SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TO ENGAGE THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN SORT OF THIS ADVISORY ROLE OF SORTS? RIGHT, RIGHT.

UM, YEP.

SO THAT WAS THE HYPERLOCALIZED.

THERE'S THE COMMUNITY VOICES PROGRAM, UM, THAT I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHAT IT'S DOING NOW, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS, BUT A FEW YEARS AGO IT WAS A PROGRAM WHERE, WHERE PEOPLE WERE REALLY GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, AND PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY ASKING QUESTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AND NOT AGAIN, AT, AT CHURCHES, BUT MAYBE WHERE THEY ARE.

SO I, I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE LOOKING AT THAT APPROACH AS WELL.

I DO LIKE THE STREET LEVEL APPROACH.

SO LIKE IF YOU DO DECIDE TO DO THE SOME FORM OF SERVING, AGAIN, GET, GET STREET MAPS SO THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHICH, WHICH BLOCKS.

AND WE HAD A MAP WHICH HAD, WHERE ALL THE LOOSE DOGS WERE, BUT AS YOU SAID, THAT'S WHERE THE LOOSE DOGS WERE FOUND.

SO, UM, IF WE DRAW LIKE A RADIUS AROUND IT, PERHAPS WE'D GET A SENSE OF THE ACTUAL HOMES.

WHEN WE WENT TO CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS, EVERYBODY WOULD KNOW WHERE THE LOOSE DOG LIVES.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER WAY.

SURE.

YEAH.

IS THERE, I THINK MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, I LOVE THAT YOU SAID, UM, INFLUENCERS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, BUT I MEAN, RESPECTFULLY, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR, I'VE BEEN THAT PERSON IN MY COMMUNITY FOR 15 YEARS, SO HAVE SOME OTHER MEMBERS OF MY RESCUE.

NONE OF US GOT ASKED TO, TO ENCOURAGE ANYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO DO THIS.

NONE OF US EVEN KNEW THE SURVEY HAD HAPPENED, WHICH IS TROUBLING BECAUSE I'M SO, I'M A JOINER.

I WOULD'VE ANSWERED, YOU KNOW, I WOULD'VE, I WOULD'VE GONE DOOR TO DOOR WITH NEIGHBORS WHO TRUST ME.

THEY KNOW THAT I'M NOT GOING TO SEND THEIR INFORMATION TO A SOURCE WHO COULD PUNISH THEM FOR IT.

COMMISSIONER JAMESON, THAT'S YOUR TIME.

BUT WE CAN STILL HAVE STAFF OR DR. ROBERTSON RESPOND, IF I COULD JUMP IN.

I, I, I THINK THAT'S ALL GOOD INFORMATION, AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE WORKING TO ADOPT THE WALKS AND TALKS.

UH, THAT'S THE TEAM GOING OUT AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS THAT DOOR TO DOOR, LIKE YOU SAID, MEEMAW AND EVERYBODY ELSE MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A COMPUTER OR, OR, UH, UH, DIGITAL INFORMATION.

SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN THE FIELD ARE, ARE, ARE NECESSARY.

UH, I KNOW WORKING WITH CODE, ONE OF

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THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT WE HAD WHEN I WAS THERE WAS THE LACK OF CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT WAS MORE OF, YOU'RE JUST HERE TO WRITE US A TICKET AND GIVE US A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.

AND OF COURSE, THERE IS THAT FEAR OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO OUR TEAM ACTUALLY DOES THESE WALKS AND TALKS OUT OF, NOT OUT OF UNIFORM, BUT W WITH THE PERCEPTION OF NOT GOING, COMING ACROSS AS, AS LAW ENFORCEMENT.

UH, BECAUSE AS YOU UNDERSTAND, THERE IS THAT PERCEPTION THAT NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE, IF YOU'RE WEARING A UNIFORM, THERE, THERE IS SOME TYPE OF BIAS AND FEAR.

SO, UH, BUT LOOKING AT THAT IN A GRANULAR LEVEL AS FAR AS WHERE THESE CONVERSATIONS NEED TO HAPPEN, UH, I, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, THIS IS JUST A JUMPING OFF POINT.

THIS WAS NOT A FULL STUDY.

THIS WAS JUST TO BUILD THE FRAMEWORK OF HOW AN RFP WOULD LOOK FOR A FIVE-YEAR PROJECT.

IT'S JUST FORTUNATE THAT THERE WAS ENOUGH INFORMATION HERE FOR US TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S A LOT HERE WE CAN ALREADY START WORKING ON.

WE'RE NOT GONNA WAIT FOR AN RP.

UH, WE ALL KNOW THE BUDGET ISSUES AND WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO, UH, I, I AGREE THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS WHO PROBABLY COULD HAVE SOME GOOD INFORMATION, BUT ONE, THEY'RE FEARFUL.

TWO, THEY DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS THREE, THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

UH, BUT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BROADEN THIS.

SO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER GIOS, AND JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY, COMMISSIONER.

I'LL START YOUR TIME.

NO, I WAS GONNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT, BUT I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME BACK.

OKAY, PERFECT.

UM, WE DO HAVE SOME REMAINING TIME, IF ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTION.

UM, LET ME, I'LL, I'LL USE MY TIME TOO.

UM, I DID WANNA, UH, TELL COMMISSIONER JAMESON I WAS, GIMME JUST ONE SECOND.

SURE.

GO AHEAD.

SO YOU HAVE READING IT COURT BOARD SECOND SAYING .

WE DO, YEAH.

THERE YOU GO.

THIS IS THE BEST WE GOT.

ALRIGHT.

SO, WHOOPS, SEE WHERE IT WENT.

ALRIGHT, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, I'LL START YOUR TIME.

OKAY.

I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS WERE ASKED, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM, UM, THAT YOU BROUGHT UP WITH, UH, AN ADVOCACY CONNECTION IN GENERAL.

WE, THERE, IT REALLY IS NO CENTRAL OUTLET.

THIS IS SORT OF THE ONLY SOURCE, AND WE JUST DO NOT GET PARTICIPATION.

SO WHEN PEOPLE BROUGHT UP THE 941 RESPONDENTS WAS A TINY SAMPLING.

THAT'S TRUE.

BUT WE, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY OF US WHO HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING AND TRYING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE, AND THIS IS EXACTLY HOW EXACTLY, WHEN WE DO NOT GET PARTICIPATION, PEOPLE ARE VERY LOUD AND OPINIONATED ONLINE, BUT THEY DON'T SHOW UP AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

THEY DON'T WATCH THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN, UH, THERE'S COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT YOU GET TWO PEOPLE OR YOU KNOW, EIGHT PEOPLE, UM, AND THE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ALL THESE GROUPS ARE NOT, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S JUST NO CENTRALIZED SPOT FOR ADVOCACY INFORMATION.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY MISSING.

IT'S A VOID SO THAT PEOPLE WILL GET ALERTS FOR ALL THESE TYPES OF THINGS ON POSITIVE.

IF, IF I COULD, IF I COULD JUMP ON TO THAT CONVERSATION TOO, IF, IF YOU HAVEN'T, OR YOU ARE NOT AWARE, THE CITY DOES SURVEYS TO, TO GAUGE THE PRIORITY LEVELS OF THE COMMUNITY'S PERCEPTION OF DAS WHEN YOU'RE NOT RESPONDING, IT'S NOT A PRIORITY.

AND THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ARE TAKEN.

SO THE, THE LACK OF RESPONSE IS NOT JUST IN THIS SURVEY, IT'S IN A LOT OF SURVEYS.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, I'M GONNA DITTO WHAT YOU SAID, BUT ASK EVERYONE WHO FEELS THAT DS IS A PRIORITY.

AND I WILL GIVE ALL THE FEEDBACK.

I'LL KEEP A LITTLE OF MY TIME HERE.

I WILL SAY THAT DAS DOES PUT OUT IN SOCIAL MEDIA ALL OF THIS STUFF, BUT IT'S NOT Q ANIMAL POSTS, SO IT'S NOT GONNA PUSH OUT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST PAYING ATTENTION.

IF YOU'RE AN ACTIVE VOLUNTEER GOING TO THOSE TOWN HALLS, IF YOU'RE AN ACTIVE FOSTER GOING TO THOSE TOWN HALLS, THEY REALLY TELL EVERYBODY THERE.

AND THAT'S THE CENTER OF ADVOCACY TO THEN SPREAD THE WORD, OBVIOUSLY THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS.

UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE, RIGHT? UH, AND PS BUDGET MEETINGS ARE COMING UP, SO WE DO NEED PEOPLE FOR THE SIX PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS OR WHATEVER.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT IS THE TIME TO SPEAK UP ON BEHALF OF DAS.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER MATHIAS, ONE SECOND.

I'LL YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

FOUR MINUTES AND 23 SECONDS, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK WE ACTUALLY CAN TYPE IT IN.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

FOR SURE.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, LET ME KNOW.

I'LL START.

GO.

OH, , ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET A COPY OF THIS STUDY? I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO HAVE THAT TO, TO

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REFERENCE AS WE GO FORWARD TO KINDA SEE WHERE WE ARE OR WHERE WE WERE, WHERE WE ARE, THAT KIND OF THING.

HOW DOES THAT WORK, PAUL? AND YES, NO, MAYBE DR. ROBINSON, DID YOU WANNA RESPOND? I MEAN, I, I GAVE THE REPORT TO FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES MY CLIENT, SO IT'S UP TO THEM.

RIGHT.

UM, SO YES, I, I'M, I DON'T THINK I CAN ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION MYSELF, BUT YES, I IMAGINE, I IMAGINE THE PROPERTY , THE REPORT IS THE PROPERTY OF DAS, DREW BODI, SO WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION.

YEAH.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER WITH EYES? OKAY.

UH, MS. DELGADO, YOU HAVE YOUR FULL FIVE? ARE YOU, ARE YOU GONNA, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL USE THEM JUST FOR A COMMENT.

OKAY.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

LET ME GO TO A FIVE.

OKAY.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

UM, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS A GREAT START OF A REPORT, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT NEARS A LOT OF OTHER REPORTS THAT, YOU KNOW, MADDIE'S FUN IN COLLABORATION WITH AUSTIN PETS ALIVE HAS DONE, UM, THAT WE'RE KIND OF SEEING THIS NEED TO BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT DAS IS DOING A GREAT JOB IN THAT AREA.

UM, I WANT US ALL TO KIND OF FOCUS ON THE BIGGER PICTURE OF, LIKE, THAT ULTIMATELY WE CAN'T MAKE THESE DECISIONS TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, UM, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, FOCUSING ON THAT.

AND I, I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP IN THE LAST MEETING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVING, HAVING ESTABLISHED A STRATEGIC PLAN AS TO HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THERE, BECAUSE TO SAY THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION, WE CAN JUST MOVE, WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE TO DO OVERNIGHT.

UM, SO I, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO THE WEEDS ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE REPORT KIND OF NEGATES THE BIGGER PICTURE, WHICH IS THAT WE ARE SPENDING TIME AND MONEY ON THE DETAILS WHEN REALLY THE REPORT HAS TOLD US WHAT MULTIPLE REPORTS AND WHAT WE SEE FIRSTHAND EVERY DAY THAT WE NEED TO BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER MODEL.

AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE KIND OF, THAT I, I WANNA MAKE COMMENT THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO KIND OF FOCUS ON A HIGHER LEVEL TO SAY, HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT THIS? BECAUSE THAT'S THE NEXT PROBLEM THAT WE'RE GONNA FACE.

SO, UM, I'LL STOP THERE.

UM, COMMISSIONER FAULKNER, DUN, ARE, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT? SO I'LL SET UP YOUR TIME.

ONE SECOND.

LET ME GET, OOPS, ONE GOING FOR, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES AND EACH, SO LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU ARE READY.

I WILL START.

OKAY.

I'M READY.

I'M READY.

GO.

UM, AND I, AND I AGREE WITH NICOLE.

THIS IS, LIKE, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT IT'S A COMMUNITY BASED APPROACH, APPROACHES WHAT WORKS.

WE ALL KNOW THAT.

AND THINGS HAVE ONLY GOTTEN WORSE SINCE THIS WAS DONE TWO YEARS AGO, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE ECONOMY, MORE EVICTIONS, MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN THEIR CARS, LIVING IN WITH THEIR GRANDMOTHER WHO CAN'T, WHO DOESN'T LIKE DOGS, AND, YOU KNOW, JUST THE ENDLESS STORIES THAT, THAT WEREN'T HEARING.

UM, I WOULD ALSO, I'D LOVE TO HAVE A COPY OF THIS REPORT BECAUSE IT, IT ENABLES US TO SPEAK WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE AUTHORITY WHEN WE GET ASKED QUESTIONS BY PEOPLE, LIKE, WHY IS THIS GOING? YOU KNOW, WHY IS THIS GOING ON? AND PEOPLE BADMOUTHING DIS AND SAY LIKE, HERE'S WHAT'S HAPPENED, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS.

BUT THESE ARE ALL BIG ECONOMIC, AND THESE ARE PROBLEMS THAT ARE NOT JUST DASI MEAN, EVERYTHING IS TIED TO SOME AND EVERYTHING.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A COPY OF THE REPORT IF WE COULD, JUST TO, UH, JUST TO, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WE TALK TO WHO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ANIMAL RESCUE GROUP, WHICH WE KNOW IS A COMPLICATED, COMPLICATED PROBLEM.

IT'S NOT AS FAST.

SO ANYWAY, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE VERY USEFUL.

UH, COMMISSIONER SANDERS, YOU HAVE EIGHT SECONDS.

IF YOU GIMME ONE SECOND, I'LL ADD IT.

I, I JUST CAN COMMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT.

DON'T, UM, OH, WILL YOU PUT YOUR MICROPHONE DOWN TOWARDS YOUR MOUTH? YEAH, SURE.

I WAS JUST GONNA, WE'RE GONNA START, YOU NOW REITERATE EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN AND LEARN HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT, WE'RE GONNA BE EXACTLY LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER MATHA SAID IN LIKE, IN 2007.

WE ARE TIME, THAT'S TIME 20 YEARS LATER, WE'RE GONNA BE IN THE SAME SPOT.

AND THEN I BELIEVE THE NEXT WAS COMMISSIONER JAMESON, YOU ARE OUT OF TIME, BUT AFTER COMMISSIONER GOGI, IF WE WANT TO ELECT TO DO A SECOND ROUND OF I FIVE MINUTES, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

SO TECHNICALLY WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER

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GOGI, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I YIELD MY TIME FOR OTHERS.

OKAY.

UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A SECOND ROUND? DOES ANYONE WANT A SECOND? IF YOU WOULD PLEASE THANK A MOTION, IF YOU'D LIKE A SECOND ROUND OF THIS.

WE'RE ALSO GONNA GO THROUGH THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, REMEMBER, AND HAVE OTHER, UH, ROUNDS AFTER THAT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON ON DIRECTORS.

IF, IF I COULD SAY ONE CLOSING COMMENT, I WANT THANK MELISSA WEBER FOR HAVING THE FORETHOUGHT TO ASK FOR THIS TWO, FOR FO FOR FUNDING IT.

THREE, FOR DR. ROBINSON AND HER TEAM FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.

AND EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, MIDSTREAM THINGS CHANGED, UH, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE IT GIVES US AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE BARRIERS TO ACCESS TO SERVICE, SOCIOECONOMIC ISSUES THAT TIE INTO THIS, THE ACCESSIBILITY TO VET CARE.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW, WE'RE, UH, 48 OUT OF A HUNDRED WHEN OUR SURROUNDING COUNTIES ARE A LOT HIGHER THAN THAT.

SO IT, IT, IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHERE THESE SERVICES NEED TO GO.

UH, AND, AND I, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, DR. ROBINSON.

IT'S BEEN A GREAT EFFORT.

UH, I APOLOGIZE IT TOOK THIS LONG, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE WERE DOING A STUDY WITH THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES.

WE HAD CRUELTY THAT JUST BROUGHT, BROUGHT ON DAS, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAD, IF YOU'VE NOTICED, EVERYBODY WHO'S IN LEADERSHIP HERE WAS NOT WITH ME WHEN THIS ALL STARTED.

YEAH, THANKS FOR NOT LETTING IT, UH, COMPLETELY FOLLOW.

UM, PAUL, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, THIS IS POSSIBLE, BUT I HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

I ALSO SEE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THROAT STUFF.

IS IT POSSIBLE WHEN WE GO THROUGH IT THAT THE PAGES, INSTEAD OF DOING VERBATIM OF LIKE VERY SPECIFICS, YOU CAN DO SOME SUMMARIES WHERE APPLICABLE INSTEAD OF LIKE READING EVERY SINGLE PAGE VERBATIM, LIKE THERE'S SOMEWHERE THAT WILL BE APPLICABLE, BUT THEN SOME OF THEM YOU CAN JUST SORT OF SUMMARIZE.

I, I, I TRY TO DO THAT AS BEST AS I CAN.

OKAY.

.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU, DR. ROBERTSON.

UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD MORNING.

UH, BEEN A LONG MORNING, UH, DIRECTOR RAMON DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.

UH, I HAVE WITH HERE, MY TEAM WITH ME HERE TODAY.

MY TEAM, UH, AMANDA EARL, WHO IS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, AND THEN VICTORIA CHEATHAM, WHO'S THE DIRECTOR, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER MARKETING, UH, BUDGET AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, UH, AND CONTRACTS.

AND THEN I HAVE OUR A GM, OUR ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER OVER MEDICAL, UH, EMILY FREEMAN.

AND THEN WE HAVE DANIEL, UH, ALVARADO, THE, UH, ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER OF FIELD OPERATIONS.

AND THEN ERICA BENNETT, THE ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER FOR, UH, SHELTER OPERATIONS.

AND THEN OUR BUSINESS MANAGER, WHO'S ONLINE, LAUREN WILSON.

THIS PRESENTATION DIRECTOR'S REPORT IS FOR QUARTER TWO, WHICH ENCOMPASSED TO JANUARY OF 2026 THROUGH MARCH OF 2026.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS SOME OF THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT WE ARE MEASURING OURSELVES ON.

UH, THE FIRST ONE IS THE LOOSE DOG BITES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GOAL IS TO BE 2% LOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE AT 14%, UH, PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN DOGS AND CATS FOSTERED.

THE GOAL WAS 2%.

WE EXCEEDED THAT GOAL.

UH, A NEW GOAL THAT WE'RE USING AS PART OF OUR MARKETING AND OUTREACH, UH, TEAM AND FIELD RESPONSE IS, UH, INFIELD, UH, MICROCHIPPING.

THAT'S A NEW PROGRAM.

SO THE DATA'S GONNA BE SKEWED FOR A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE GET SOME, UH, SOME, UH, DETAILS, UH, SUBSIDIZED, UH, SPAY AND NEUTER SURGERIES EVERY QUARTER.

IT'S A 500 GOAL TO GET TO THE END OF, UH, THE FISCAL YEAR AT 2000.

UH, HALFWAY THROUGH, WE'RE ALREADY AT 1,902.

NEXT SLIDE.

TOTAL INTAKES BY SPECIES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE DOG INTAKES IS SLIGHTLY DOWN.

CATS ARE INCREASED, COMBINED.

DOGS AND CATS ARE ALMOST FLATLINED.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE OTHERS.

THERE'S A HUGE INCREASE.

FIRST, UH, MONTH OF THE FISCAL YEAR IN OCTOBER, UH, WE HAD A HUGE INTAKE OF ROOSTERS.

NEXT SLIDE.

LIVE RELEASE RATE BY SPECIES.

AS YOU SEE FOR DOGS, IT IS, UH, FLAT, UH, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

UH, NEONATES IS, UH, DOWN BY 6%.

OF COURSE, THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING IN THE MOST VULNERABLE, UH, CATS.

UH, IN, IN TOTAL, UH, IS DOWN, UH, AS WELL, SLIGHTLY BY 2%.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S INCORPORATING.

WE'RE TAKING IN THE MOST VULNERABLE.

OTHERS IS DOWN DRAMATICALLY.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF, OF COURSE, I JUST TOLD YOU WE HAD THE HUGE S AND THOSE ARE

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ENTAILING, UH, COCKFIGHTING MINISTERS.

NEXT SLIDE.

LIVE OUTCOMES BY SPECIES.

AND THESE ARE YEAR OVER YEAR COMPARISONS.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY GAUGED ON ACTUAL CAPACITY OR INTAKE.

SO, UH, IT'S DOWN BY 14% YEAR OVER YEAR, UH, NON-LIVE OUTCOMES BY REASONS FOR DOGS.

IT'S DOWN BY 12% WITH DECREASES IN SEVERAL AREAS.

NEXT SLIDE.

LIVE OUTCOMES BY SPECIES FOR CATS, UH, HAVE INCREASED BY 7% WITH THE, THE BIGGEST INCREASE, UH, IN TNR NON-LIVE OUTCOMES BY, UH, REASONS FOR CATS IS, UH, UP BY 17%.

AGAIN, THE MOST VULNERABLE IS THE IN THE HUMANE NAME.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, RESCUE GROUPS, UH, UH, BY AGE GROUP, UH, IS SLIGHTLY DOWN BY 6%, UH, WITH DOGS AND 3% FOR CATS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE OUR TOP 10 RESCUES.

UM, THE NUMBER IS DOWN.

EVERYBODY'S GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING THAT WE ARE.

SO THEY'RE, WE'RE ALL FIGHTING FOR RESOURCES.

NEXT SLIDE.

FIELD ACTIVITIES, SERVICE REQUEST, TIMELY RESPONSE.

THESE ARE BASED ON OUR ABILITY TO GET OUT THERE, UH, IN A TIMELY MANNER TO THESE CALLS, WITH AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE CALLS ARE MEASURED BY HOURS, ABOUT DAYS.

AND, UH, WE HAVE 10 NEW CADETS IN TRAINING, SO THAT KIND OF LIMITS OUR RESOURCES, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN, IN THE QUEUE, JUST WAITING TO GET OUT.

SO, YOU KNOW, OUR SERVICE REQUEST TYPES ARE DOWN BY 11%, WITH THE LARGEST DECREASE IN EXTERNAL, BUT WITH, UH, AN INCREASE IN FOLLOW UPS.

UH, AS WE STATED BEFORE, WHEN WE SEE A DECREASE IN LOOSE AND LOOSE ON SERVICE REQUESTS, WE SEE AN INCREASE IN LOOSE AND LOOSE ON DOG BITES.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS FINDING THE REMEDIES FOR THAT, AS I STATED.

BUT GETTING THESE FOLKS OUT IN THE FIELD, HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'LL REMEDY SOME OF THAT.

AND AS WELL, WORKING WITH A NEW PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IN THE COMMUNITY COURSE, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE BRIEFED IN THE NEXT OF NEXT SLIDE.

MEDICAL TREATMENTS, SPAN NEUTER SURGERIES ARE DOWN BY THE 11%.

OF COURSE, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, WE'RE DOWN TO ONE SURGEON.

UH, AND, YOU KNOW, LIMITED RESOURCES, LIMITED, UH, UH, CAPABILITIES, AND THAT ALSO INCORPORATES INTO THE SPECIALTY SURGERY.

WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AS MANY IN-HOUSE SPAY, NEUTER, THOSE SPECIALTY SURGERIES KINDA, YOU KNOW, FALL TO THE WAIST.

UH, NOT PURPOSEFULLY.

UH, HEARTWORM TREATMENTS ARE SLIGHTLY DOWN.

UH, BUT THE SUBSIDIZED SURGERIES, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE DOWN BY 11%, WE'VE FAR EXCEEDED THE GOAL.

THAT WAS SET.

NEXT SLIDE.

SUSPECTED ANIMAL CRUELTY.

AS YOU SEE, WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR, AND WE'VE ALREADY EXCEEDED THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SUSPECTED ANIMAL CRUELTY VICTIMS. UH, FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

UH, THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE IN THIS PROCESS.

UH, OUR, UH, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH OPERATIONS, KINDNESS HUMANE SOCIETY, HAS COME TO AN END.

UH, WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE, AND STEPPING IN AT A TIME WHEN DAS HAD NO FORENSICS SUPPORT.

UH, THEY DID SO BY PROVIDING A, A CREW TO ASSIST A FORENSIC VETERINARIAN AND STAFF, AND UP TO $1.5 MILLION WORTH OF SUPPORT THAT THEY DID NOT GET ANY, UH, REIMBURSEMENT FOR.

UH, HOWEVER, DAS IS NOW BUILDING ITS OWN FORENSICS, UH, TEAM.

UH, WE'VE HIRED THE FORENSICS VETERINARIAN, SO THAT IS A SMOOTH PROCESS TO KEEP GOING.

UH, BUT I, I JUST WANNA TAKE THE TIME TO THANK THEM FOR ALL THAT THEY'VE DONE WITHOUT ANY REIMBURSEMENT, UH, FOR THEIR SERVICES.

NEXT SLIDE.

OUTREACH AND COMMUNITY EVENTS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE CONTINUE TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

WE CONTINUE TO HOST LISTENING SESSIONS.

WE CONTINUE TO, UH, PROVIDE RESOURCES TO THE COMMUNITY TO TRY TO BRIDGE, BRIDGE THOSE BARRIERS TO ACCESS.

UH, WE'VE HELD A NUMBER OF, UH, MEETINGS AND NEIGHBORHOOD WALKS, UH, ADOPTION EVENTS, WHICH, AS YOU CAN SEE, GILDED, UH, FAVORABLE RESULTS.

NEXT SLIDE.

AS I STATED EARLIER, WE HAVE A NEW FOUR PERSON MARKETING TEAM, UH, WITH A MANAGER THAT'S LEADING THAT GROUP.

UNDER VICTORIA'S LEADERSHIP.

OUR VIEWS ARE, UH, UP BY 35% IN INSTAGRAM BY 5.2 MILLION IN THIS QUARTER.

IN FACEBOOK, THEY'RE UP BY 30% TO 10.1 MILLION.

UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, CLICKS AND, AND AND VIEWS GOING ON THERE.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, AND WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THAT.

UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INFLUENCERS THAT HAVE BEEN HELPING, UH, WITH VIDEOS OF SUPPORT.

THERE WAS ONE THAT WENT OUT BY AN INFLUENCER.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THE NUMBER OF VIEWS THAT, THAT, THAT VIDEO GOT.

AND THE PARKING LOT WAS CROWDED.

SO WE, WE ARE VERY

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THANKFUL FOR THAT.

NEXT SLIDE, PART OF THE MARKETING.

WE LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE TOP STORIES FOR FACEBOOK.

IT WAS WHEN A SO TORRES WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THE RESCUE OF KITTEN ON THE, UH, HUNT HILL BRIDGE, UH, RESIDENTS WHO WERE OUTRAGED ABOUT PETS BEING OUT IN THE FREEZING COLD DURING Q2, UH, AND SEVERAL OTHERS.

AND SOME OF THOSE REPEATED ON INSTAGRAM.

NEXT SLIDE.

WE ARE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT PROVIDED BY OUR VOLUNTEERS.

UH, WE HAD 98 VOLUNTEERS ACTIVE DURING Q2.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOURS AND THE POTENTIAL SALARY SAVINGS AND COST TO THE CITY THAT WAS SAVED.

AND THEN THE, THE CONTINUED PROGRESS WE SEE IN OUR VACATIONS WITH ANIMALS GETTING FURTHER EXPOSURE, DETAILS AND NOTES, AND GETTING OUT THERE AND GETTING IN THE COMMUNITY, AND GETTING, EVENTUALLY FOSTERING THE DOCKET.

NEXT SLIDE.

CONTINUATION OF THE FOSTER PROGRAM.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE IN Q2, WE HAD, UH, OVER A THOUSAND ANIMALS, UH, FOSTERED WITH, UH, 381 REPEAT FOSTERS, AND 108 FOSTER HERO.

THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE BRINGING IN ANIMALS AS STRAYS, AND THEY DECIDE TO GO AHEAD AND FOSTER THOSE ANIMALS AT THAT MOMENT, WHICH IS AMAZING.

UH, AND THEN 861, UH, FOSTER FAILS, WHICH IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

UH, AND THEN THESE ARE SOME OF THE EVENTS TO, UH, TO ARRIVE WITH SOME OF THE PARTICIPANTS ON BOTH THE FOUR-LEGGED SIDE AND TWO-LEGGED SIDE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

AGAIN, AS WE TALKED ABOUT REMOVING BARRIERS TO ACCESS AND SOME SOCIOECONOMIC ISSUES AND DIVERTING ANIMALS FROM BEING SURRENDERED.

UH, WE DO HAVE A PET FOOD PANTRY THAT WE, UH, DO, UH, A COUPLE OF TIMES, I BELIEVE A MONTH.

UH, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, 835 PETS SERVED 14,000 POUNDS OF FOOD PROVIDED.

UH, SO THE, THE, AND A NUMBER OF, UH, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.

SO, UH, WE'RE THANKFUL FOR THE, FOR THE DONATIONS TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS PAYING FOR.

UH, SO WE ARE GREATLY APPRECIATIVE.

WE CONTINUE TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH WHAT WE CAN TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY TECH CONCERNS.

ALTHOUGH WE KNOW IT'S NEVER ENOUGH, THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT MORE WE CAN DO, UH, WITH WORKING WITH THE, THE PARTNERS THAT WE DO HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

UH, SPAY NEW NETWORK, THEY DID 687 FOR Q2.

WE ACTUALLY TOOK IN 121 ADDITIONAL, UH, FROM OUR FIELD RESPONSES.

AND IN DCAP, THE, UH, COMPLETED OVER A THOUSAND WITH A TOTAL OF 1800 CATS IN THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WERE DONE, UH, THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

AND THEN, UH, THIS IS OUR FIELD RESPONSE NUMBERS.

AND THEN WE ALSO DID 552 TNR SURGERIES IN-HOUSE, UH, THROUGH DS WITH A, A TOTAL OF OVER 2,500 SURGERIES THAT WE DONE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

OUR TRANSPORT AND RESCUE HIGHLIGHTS.

UH, WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN TO SAVE LIVES, AND PART OF THAT IS THROUGH THE TRANSPORT PROCESS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE CONTINUE TO DO ALL THAT WE CAN, UH, THROUGH Q2 WITH 418 TOTAL ANIMALS TAGGED FOR TRANSPORT.

UH, THERE ARE, THERE WERE SOME OUT-OF-STATE ADOPTIONS FROM THAT.

UH, AND THEN THE TEAM HAS SOME AUDACIOUS GOALS THAT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO, TO MEET.

SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST TO DO SO.

AND I, I THINK FOR THAT.

THE NEXT IS A FOLLOW UP TO A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CAT POLICY UPDATE.

UH, WE'VE, UH, BROUGHT THIS TO YOU ALL AS PART OF A DISCUSSION TO GET FEEDBACK AND, AND THEN LET YOU DO ALL AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT.

UH, AND LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES, LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES, HAVING CONVERSATIONS, LOOKING AT OTHER ORDINANCES, UH, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN BECAUSE THERE, THERE'S MENTION OF A TNR IN OUR CODE, BUT THERE'S NO FRAMEWORK, THERE'S NO DEFINITIONS, THERE'S NO UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT DOES THAT INCLUDE? UH, SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH, UH, UH, CREATING, UH, UH, COMMUNITY CAT POLICY IS ADDING DEFINITIONS, UH, ON SOME OF THOSE, WHICH ARE, UH, A CAT CAREGIVER, UH, COMMUNITY CAT COLONY, WHAT A FAIR TIP IS.

AND IN THE TNR PROGRAM, UH, THERE ARE SOME DEFENSES TO PROSECUTION AS IT RELATES TO COMMUNITY CAT CAREGIVERS, AS, AS IT, IT RELATES TO, UH, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS AT A PROPERTY AS WELL AS LOOSE ANIMALS ON A PROPERTY.

THERE IS SOME PROVISIONS IN THERE ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, PENALTIES FOR TRAPPING AND CONDUCTING THOSE TRAPPING OPERATIONS TO AT THE DETRIMENT OF THE ANIMALS AND THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND WHAT SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT BE DONE.

AND THEN THE LAST SECTION IS SEVEN POINT,

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UH, SEVEN DASH 3.6, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE COMMUNITY CAT FRAMEWORK.

AND IN THAT SECTION, IT TALKS ABOUT THE STANDARDS FOR COMMUNITY CAT MANAGEMENT, REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMUNITY CATS AS IT RELATES TO STERILIZATION, VACCINATIONS, EAR CHIPPING, AND SO FORTH.

THE KEY POINTS OF THIS CONVERSATION IS ADDING CLEAR DEFINITIONS, PROVIDING PROVISIONS IN THE CODES FOR DEFENSES TO PROSECUTION, AND THEN DEVELOPING STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HEALTHY SAFETY OF THE ANIMALS AND TO ENSURE SOMEBODY'S NOT BREAKING THE LAW.

UH, UH, UH, UH, BUT KEEPING EVERYBODY INFORMED.

UH, WE DID GO OUT AND HAVE, UH, COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS THROUGH SEVERAL DISTRICT OFFICES.

AND I, I, I WANT TO MEAN YOU, YOU WERE IN, IN ATTENDANCE TO THE FIRST ONE.

UH, AND WE DID HEAR SOME FEEDBACK, AND WE ARE, UH, WANTING TO LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.

AND, UH, WE ARE HOPING TO TAKE THIS BACK BEFORE QUALITY OF LIFE.

UH, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, PROPOSED DRAFT IS PROVIDED, UH, ON THE NEXT, UH, FEW SLIDES IN THE APPENDIX, JILLIAN, IF YOU WANNA CLICK THROUGH THOSE, UH, FOR YOUR REVIEW.

AND WE, UH, IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER COMMUNITY, UH, FEEDBACK, WE ASK THAT THEY REACH OUT TO THE COMMISSION AND PROVIDE THAT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WHEN WE GO BACK AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, UH, WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE CONCERNS AND THAT FEEDBACK, UH, RELATIVE TO THESE CHANGES OR THESE AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE.

UH, JILLIAN, IF YOU COULD GO DOWN TO 27 OF, OF COURSE, THIS IS A, A LINK TO ALL OF OUR RESOURCES AND DATA SETS.

UH, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED IN THE NEXT BRIEFING, HOPEFULLY ABOUT SOME WORK WITH OUR DATA BUSINESS AND IN INTELLIGENCE TEAM, DATA ANALYTICS, AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE OFFICE.

I JUST CALL 'EM DBI.

UH, THEY'RE THE, THE, THE NUMBER CRUNCHERS, AND THEY DO A LOT OF WORK, UH, RELATED TO DATA AND DASHBOARD.

SO, UH, THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION.

UH, GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PHIL.

AND IT, IT'S AMAZING TO FINALLY SHOW THIS SLIDE AND NOT HAVE A VACANCY ON THERE.

UH, SO I'M GREATLY APPRECIATIVE, UH, OF OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM.

AGAIN, IT TOOK A MINUTE, UH, BUT I THINK WE FINALLY GOT THE RIGHT ONE PLACE.

SO, UH, THANK YOU.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND WITH THAT, THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSION.

SO IF WE WANT TO START OFF THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THAT WAS NICE AND SPEEDY.

I'M SORRY YOU GOT A LITTLE THROAT SITUATION THERE.

TRY TO NOT HAVE YOU TALK TOO MUCH.

UM, LET'S GO BACKWARDS AND START WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER ESS.

OKAY, ONE SECOND.

SORRY.

WHEN JILLIAN SAYS YOU CAN START.

YEAH, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOOD HERE.

HAVE TO ADD A NEW ONE.

ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, LET ME KNOW AND I CAN START YOUR TIME.

YOU COULD GO AHEAD.

I'LL, UH, BE QUICK.

UM, THANK YOU, UH, DIRECTOR.

I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS ON, UM, ALL THE SUCCESS WITH THE RECENT EVENTS.

IT'S ALSO EXCITING TO SEE, UH, THE SOCIAL, UH, INCREASE IN SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH FACEBOOK, UM, AS IT'S BEEN SOMETHING I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHARE WITH MY NETWORK.

UM, SO IT'S EXCITING TO SEE, UH, DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES REALLY STARTING TO TREND IN SOME AREAS WHERE OUR NEXT GENERATION OFTEN LIVES AT MOST OF THEIR TIME.

SO WITH THAT, I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER JAMESON.

WAIT FOR, UH, JULIAN TO GIVE YOU THE GO AHEAD AND YOU'LL BE NEXT.

THANKS.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

THANKS.

PANTRY DATA.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

AS WE MENTIONED, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, FINANCIAL CHALLENGES FOR PEOPLE.

THIS IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT.

PARTNERSHIP WITH TCAP AND SPAY NEUTER NETWORK IS OBVIOUSLY GOING GREAT.

I LOVE THAT.

I'M PERSONALLY IN GROUPS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY REFERRING THAT, UH, THAT PARTNERSHIP.

SO, THANK YOU.

QUESTION.

UH, THE NO DAS MED PETS RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY.

UM, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO FOSTER THOSE, WHETHER THEY BE RESCUE GROUPS OR INDIVIDUALS, THEY GET A $350 STIPEND, BUT IT ONLY IS ELIGIBLE AT ONE PARTICULAR VET IN FAR NORTH DALLAS.

CLEARLY THAT'S NOT BENEFICIAL FOR THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS WHO ARE, WHO ARE DOING THE WORK IN AND AROUND DASI PERSONALLY RECOMMENDED ONE, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE A MEETING WITH, UH, THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK, NEXT WEEK.

UM, AND I'M SUPER EXCITED THAT THAT COULD BE AN, AN ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIP.

JUST 10 MILES FROM, OH, I'M SORRY, IT'S FOUR MILES FROM DAS, SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, BUT QUESTION, SINCE Y'ALL ALREADY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH TCAP AND SPAY NEUTER NETWORK

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SINCE THE, UM, THE TIME TO GET ANIMALS BACK IN FOR SURGERY, THERE'S SUCH A LONG DELAY.

WE'RE, WE'RE INTO THE MIDDLE OF JULY NOW, COULD THAT STIPEND POSSIBLY BE APPLIED TO, UH, SURGERIES BEING DONE AT TT CCAP AND SPAY NEUTER NETWORK? THE QUESTION, UM, I'LL CONTINUE AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT.

UH, THE, YOU YOU SHOWED THE, UM, OR YOU PUT THE, THE CAT ORDINANCE, THE FERAL CAT ORDINANCE DRAFT UP, UM, I, THIS TIME LAST YEAR, I WAS PERSONALLY A PART OF THAT.

I KNOW CHAD WEST HAD REALLY BEEN DRIVING THAT, AND WE HAD, WE LOST SOME OF OUR FAVORITE STAFF WHO WAS WORKING ON THAT AT DAS.

THAT SUCKED.

THEY WERE AWESOME.

ALEXI WAS AMAZING.

UM, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN SHARE WITH OUR CAT INFLUENCERS, THE DRAFT AS IT IS NOW, AND WHERE'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THEM TO LOG FEEDBACK? THAT'S SECOND QUESTION.

UM, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH, Y'ALL KNOW, I'M UP THERE LIKE MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK.

I'M SORRY, YOU'RE TIRED OF ME.

UM, I'VE HAD SOME GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH CHRISTIE STEVENS, AMANDA EARL, CASSANDRA PADILLA.

Y'ALL ARE JUST SO RESPONSIVE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD IS LEVERAGING VOLUNTEER BASE HELP ALLEVIATE WAIT TIMES FOR PEOPLE BRINGING IN SURRENDER ANIMALS.

I WANT TO READ YOU A QUICK EMAIL FROM ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS.

THIS IS FROM APRIL 25TH.

UH, HER NAME IS JESSICA MORGAN.

SHE HAD JUST OPENED A BUSINESS JUST A FEW WEEKS BEFORE, AND THIS WAS AN EXPERIENCE SHE HAD AFTER FINDING A VERY LARGE, INTACT MALE RUNNING DOWN A BUSY STREET.

I HAVE BEEN WAITING AT DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES FOR NEARLY THREE HOURS NOW TO SURRENDER HIM.

IT'S INSANE THAT I AM LITERALLY DOING THE JOB OF A DOG CATCHER.

AND MY STORE WAS SUPPOSED TO OPEN THREE HOURS AGO, AND IT TAKES THIS LONG TO TURN A DOG IN.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY ANIMALS GET DUMPED IN PARKS OR ON THE STREET, BECAUSE WHO HAS ALL DAY TO WAIT TO SURRENDER THEM? I'M SUPPOSED TO BE AT WORK.

THIS SHOULD BE A 10 MINUTE PROCESS.

IF I WEREN'T A GOOD PERSON WITH AN EXTREMELY SENSITIVE CONSCIENCE, I WOULD BE TEMPTED TO JUST BRING HIM BACK WHERE I FOUND HIM.

WE'RE BOTH THIRSTY AND HUNGRY AND HAVE TO PEE SO BAD.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS SUCH A CRAZY PROCESS.

I GUESS HE GOT LUCKY.

UM, AND I GOT LUCKY THAT HE IS A REALLY GOOD IMPATIENT DOG.

ANYWAY, I'LL LET YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT ENDS UP BEING.

IN THE END, SHE WAS THERE FOR FOUR HOURS AND 15 MINUTES.

MY AVERAGE TIME, AND I'M THERE MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK.

SOME WEEKS, UM, IS TWO HOURS AND 45 MINUTES.

SOMETIMES THAT'S TO BRING IN A SINGLE ANIMAL.

SOMETIMES THERE'S, IT'S MORE.

SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT WE HAD WAS, Y'ALL HAVE, UM, A GREAT FOSTER BASE, A GREAT VOLUNTEER BASE RIGHT NOW.

IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THEM, TO ENGAGE THEM TO HELP TRIAGE THE INTAKE PROCESS? 'CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS PEOPLE GO UP THERE, THEY SIGN IN, THEY CHECK INTO THE LINE, THEY WAIT IN THEIR CARS FOR THREE HOURS, THEY GET UP THERE AND THEN THEY GO, OH, SORRY, WE ACTUALLY CAN'T TAKE THAT ANIMAL THAT YOU BROUGHT FOR WHATEVER THE REASON IS.

UH, RECENTLY IT WAS, YOU'VE HAD THE ANIMAL FOR TOO LONG.

THE LADY HAD FOUND THE DOG A FEW DAYS PRIOR, AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME SHE'D BEEN ABLE TO GET OFF WORK TO BRING THE ANIMAL IN.

AND THEN IT WAS, YOU'VE HAD IT TOO LONG.

NOW IT'S AN OWNER SURRENDER.

AND SHE WAS LIKE, CAN'T BRING IT HOME.

I'M NOT GONNA GET EVICTED FOR THIS DOG.

I'M A RENTER.

I'M NOT GOING TO LOSE MY JOB FOR THIS DOG.

LUCKILY, I WAS THERE AND I WAS ABLE TO HELP HER GET THE DOG THROUGH THE PROCESS.

BUT, UM, MY THOUGHT IS LEVERAGING VOLUNTEER BASE TO HELP MAYBE HOLD THE DOG FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK, JUST BE WITH THE DOG, MAYBE HELP FACILITATE ANSWERING SOME QUESTIONS.

SO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO BE DETERRED, MAYBE THEY FOUND THE DOG IN AN, IN AN AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, SEAGOVILLE OR SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE TO BE BROUGHT IN.

THEY CAN BE TOLD THAT UPFRONT, LEVERAGING MORE OF THE APPOINTMENTS.

I JUST PERSONALLY FOUND OUT YESTERDAY THAT APPOINTMENTS ARE EVEN AN OPTION FOR SURRENDER.

UH, I THINK SOME OF THAT COMMUNICATION WOULD BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL.

UM, THERE'S JUST LACK OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE, THE INTAKE PROCESS, JUST DEPENDING ON WHO YOU GET DAY TO DAY.

I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL ARE SO SHORT STAFFED.

I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A LOT OF NEW STAFF.

UM, I KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, AMANDA AND I SPOKE YESTERDAY AND ALSO CHRISTIE ABOUT WORKING ON CONSISTENCY OF PROCESSES.

SO I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING TOWARD THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK TO SAY, I APPRECIATE YOU'RE WORKING TOWARD IT.

THE, THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE I'M SEEING ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS IS PEOPLE TRYING TO SURRENDER.

UM, YOU KNOW, CATS, KITTENS, THAT'S YOUR TIME.

THANKS.

NO PROBLEM.

UH, STAFF CAN RESPOND.

YEAH.

AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THE INSIGHT INPUT, AND WE, UH, APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAIT TIMES, BUT AS ANYTHING, THESE ANIMALS HAVE TO BE TRIAGED.

THEY HAVE TO BE TAKEN IN FOR MEDICAL EXAMS. WE CAN'T JUST JUST BRING EVERYBODY IN AT ONE TIME AND HOLD THEM IN THE LOBBY.

UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THAT BUILDING WASN'T MADE FOR THAT.

UH, BUT, UM, EMILY, IF YOU WANTED TO CHIME IN, I'LL LET YOU.

YEAH, THANKS FOR THAT FEEDBACK, LEE.

UM, WE ACTUALLY ARE WORKING ALREADY ON VOLUNTEER POSITIONS AND IDEAS TO HELP WITH THE WAIT TIME.

WE ARE SHORT STAFFED.

WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN THREE HOURS RIGHT NOW IS THE AVERAGE WAIT TIME.

UM, WE ARE STREAMLINING THOSE PROCESSES, BUT THE IDEAS FOR VOLUNTEERS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.

SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

SO IT, IT APPEARS THAT IT, IT'S BEEN RECEIVED AND, AND

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IS IN THE WORKS.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, COMMISSIONER SANDERS GOING BACKWARDS.

JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY.

I'LL START YOUR TIME.

WAIT, I'M, I'M SO SORRY.

COULD I JUST, THE, THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WEREN'T ANSWERED, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO BE ANSWERED? YES.

OKAY.

COULD I, COULD I GET THOSE ANSWERS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OH, SORRY.

YES.

THE ORDINANCE ACCESS AND FEEDBACK, THE, UH, DRAFT IS ATTACHED TO THIS, UH, UH, ORDINATE TO THIS BRIEFING.

IT IS PUBLIC.

UH, JILLIAN, UH, IF YOU COULD, I MEAN, WE COULD SEND A LINK TO WHERE IT'S HOUSED.

UH, THEY HAVE THE LINK.

YES, WE ALL HAVE THE LINK.

YEAH.

YEP.

AND THEN, UH, UH, THE VOLUNTEER FOR, UH, I KNOW, OH, FEEDBACK.

UH, THE FEEDBACK CAN BE, CAN BE SENT THROUGH EMAIL OR, OR TO GET HOWEVER, RIGHT.

IS IS THERE AN EMAIL THAT IF THEY SOMEONE SENDS IT, THEN YOU WOULD DISTRIBUTE IT TO EVERYBODY? IS IT JUST YOUR EMAIL? YES.

YES.

SO, UH, MY, IF YOU GO TO THE RESOURCE PAGE OF THE DECK THAT'S POSTED ON THE CALENDAR, IT HAS THE CONTACTS FOR ALL OF US.

YOU CAN SEND THAT TO ME AND THEN I CAN DISTRIBUTE.

YEAH, THE, IT'S ON SLIDE 28.

RIGHT.

AND THEN THE EMAIL ADDRESSES ARE THERE, OH, UM, THE, THE THREE 50 STIPEND, IS THAT ALLOWED TO BE APPLIED TO, SINCE YOU ALREADY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH TCAP AND SPAY NEUTER NETWORK FOR SURGERIES? UM, I'M SORRY.

UH, IN, IN LOOKING AT ERICA, SHE SHAKING HER HEAD DOWN, UH, LEAVE THAT, THAT FUND IS FUNDED BY A PRIVATE DONOR THROUGH TI IT'S A PILOT PROGRAM.

UM, THEY'VE SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT THE ANIMALS HAVE, UM, TO FALL WITHIN THAT PROGRAM.

SO NOT EVERY ANIMAL THAT'S NO DA SM ME FALLS UNDER THAT STIPEND.

AND, UM, WE ARE ON A LIMITED BUDGET, SO WE'RE TRYING TO EXTEND THAT STIPEND TO AS MANY ANIMALS AS POSSIBLE.

UM, THE DOG CONDITIONS THAT FALL UNDER THAT PROGRAM ARE URI, UM, AND SKIN THINGS.

SO IF THEY HAVE DEX, THOSE ARE THE TWO CONDITIONS FOR DOGS.

CATS ARE, UM, URI PAN LOOP.

AND THEN IF THEY POTENTIALLY NEED LIKE AN EYE INNUATION OR A TAIL AMPUTATION, BUT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THOSE CONDITIONS DOES NOT FALL UNDER THAT PROGRAM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLARIFYING.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER SANDERS, UM, JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY AND I'LL START YOUR TIME.

OKAY, I'M READY.

OKAY.

GONNA KIND OF BE SHORT.

I'D LIKE, I'M GONNA BE SHORT, BUT I'D LIKE TO RESERVE MY TIME FOR A SECOND.

I, HOPEFULLY THAT'S NOT QUITE PREPARED YET.

UM, THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS I WOULD LIKE TO TALK MY DISTRICT 14, 'CAUSE I HAD MY COMMUNITY CAT, UM, MEETING YET.

I HOPE THERE'S STILL TIME TO DO THAT.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO, UM, PAUL RIDLEY'S OFFICE AND THEY'RE ALL IN FOR IT.

WE'RE GONNA DO IT AT LIKE THE LIBRARY, BUT BECAUSE OF MY SCHEDULE, I JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE DO IT.

I'VE BEEN OUTTA TOWN.

HOPEFULLY THERE'S STILL TIME FOR US TO DO THAT.

EVEN IF WE CAN'T SUBMIT THAT TO THE ORDINANCE, UM, I WOULD STILL REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING TO JUST GET INPUT FROM OUR COMMUNITY.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S OKAY.

I'M STILL PLANNING ON DOING THAT.

IF THAT'S NOT, YOU TELL ME AND I WON'T DO IT.

BUT I'M STILL ON SCHEDULE TO DO THAT AND I'M SO SORRY THAT I MIGHT.

BUT, UM, SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS OUT ABOUT CATS A LOT, I JUST FEEL HORRIBLE ABOUT THAT.

SO, .

UM, SECONDLY, I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START WITH THIS BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD DS IS WORKING.

I KNOW HOW PAUL WORKS.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN FIELD AND EVERYBODY IS WORKING SO HARD, BUT REALLY SCARED ABOUT THE DOG NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY 5% LESS INTAKE.

AND THE LIVE OUTCOME IS DOWN 14%, UM, WITH A LOW, UM, STAFFED MEDICAL OFFICE AND AN ECONOMIC DOWNTURN AND, UM, A WAITING LIST FOR OWNER SURRENDERS.

UM, IT'S SCARY FOR ME, AND I DON'T WANNA GET ON ANY KIND OF SOAPBOX, BUT, UH, I'M WORRIED, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE HEARD THIS, THIS, THIS DOG, UH, REPORT, AND THAT WAS 2 20 23 AND OUR, THE ECONOMY HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY, AND I THINK I'M WORRIED IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO CHANGE.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS.

I THINK THERE'S A STRATEGIC APPROACH THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER DELGADO BROUGHT UP THAT WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND I THINK IT'S GETTING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO TRY TO FIND SOME KIND OF MOBILE RESOURCES, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE SHOULD BUILD A NEW SHELTER, BUT THAT TAKES A LONG TIME AND IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

AND THE LAST TIME WE PROPOSED THAT, NOBODY EVEN LISTENED TO US OR PAID ANY ATTENTION TO US.

SO, UM, I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO JUST EXPRESS IS FRUSTRATION AND SADNESS RIGHT NOW.

AND, UM, A DESIRE TO WORK WITH AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN TO

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TRY TO GET OUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED TO FIX THAT.

AND, UM, THERE, I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT AND LET IT GO AROUND, BUT I RESERVE WHATEVER, TWO MINUTES AND 33 SECONDS I HAVE LATER ON.

YEAH.

AND, AND IN REGARDS TO THE COMMUNITY CAP MEETINGS, THOSE ARE LISTENING SESSIONS.

WE'LL HAVE THOSE EVEN LONG AFTER THIS ORDINANCES GONE THROUGH COUNCIL, IT STILL HAS TWO OTHER ITERATIONS.

IT STILL HAS TO GO BEFORE QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND IF THEY DECIDE AND GO AHEAD AND PRESENT, UH, ALLOW US TO PRESENT IT TO FULL COUNCIL, STILL HAVE THAT TIME AS WELL.

BUT THOSE ARE LISTING SESSIONS THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE REGARDLESS OF, IT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY GAPS, IT'S ABOUT RESOURCES, ABOUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

SO YEAH, IT JUST COORDINATE WITH US SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I APOLOGIZE.

ONE MEETING DID GET AWAY FROM US, AND WE DID, WE, OUR ADVERTISING OF IT WAS LIMITED.

UH, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO, WELL IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE COULD PUT IT OUT THERE.

YEAH.

IF I COULD, I'D JUST KIND OF LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR, THE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ENGAGING WITH OUR COMMUNITY IS, I MEAN, IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL.

UM, AND, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT REQUIRES YOUR HELP TOO.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT REALLY DOES.

UM, I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE STRUGGLING WITH SCHEDULING A MEETING.

WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH JUST TAKING 'EM IN, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS, UM, I MEAN, ANIMAL SERVICES IS A COMMUNITY ISSUE.

I MEAN, IT'S A ONE HEALTH, TRYING TO MOVE TOWARD A ONE HEALTH MODEL.

I MEAN, THE STATE OF THE ANIMALS IN YOUR COMMUNITY IS SO PREDICTIVE OF THE STATE, OF YOUR ACT, OF YOUR, THE HUMAN POPULATION OR IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER TO KEEP THOSE THINGS IN MIND.

UM, PROVIDING COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.

LIKE PAUL SAID EARLIER, OUR VETERINARY ACCESSIBILITY SPORT IS 48 OUT OF A HUNDRED.

GRANTED, THE STATE OF TEXAS IS 30 TO SIX, SO WE'RE ABOVE AVERAGE THERE.

BUT, UM, THAT'S WHY VICTORIA, UH, INITIATED THIS PROGRAM WITH PBI TO TRY AND, UH, DIG DEEPER INTO WHAT OUR VETERAN DESERTS ARE, WHERE THOSE TRANSPORTATION DESERTS ARE, TO ACTUALLY EXAMINE OUR DEMOGRAPHICS BY ZIP CODE OR BY AREA TO HELP PINPOINT WHERE THOSE NEEDS ARE MOST MET, MOST NEEDED.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FIGURING PARTICIPATION FROM THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE ASK, WHAT DO YOU NEED? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY DON'T RESPOND.

AND IT'S, IT'S SO RIDICULOUSLY FRUSTRATING, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IS, THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

AND HAVING THE STAFF TO ACTUALLY REDUCE OUR INTAKE TIME FROM THREE HOURS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE, THEY'RE WORKING SO HARD TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE, I MEAN, EVEN OUR ADOPTION TEAM, OUR LOBBY GETS FULL AND PEOPLE WALK AWAY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, PROCESSES, ADOPTION.

I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

MORE MONEY, MORE PEOPLE IN A GRAND, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

BUT BUILDING A BIGGER SHELTER'S, NOTHING SOLVE PROBLEM.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S BECOMING MORE COMMUNITY FACING.

IT'D BE MORE PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD, TRYING TO BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN TOMORROW.

IT'S GONNA TAKE, IT'S GONNA TAKE YEARS, AND IT'S GONNA TAKE PARTICIPATION FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND FINDING OUT WAYS TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE PARTICIPATION FROM OUR BOARD, FROM OUR, FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL, ALL OF THE THINGS.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST, IT'S, I HEAR YOU.

YEAH, I MEAN, YEAH, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I, I, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE BEST.

LIKE I REALLY I DO.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE, THE FIELD OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE, THE MEDICAL TEAM IS TRYING TO, IT, I, IT'S JUST SUCH A BIG PROBLEM.

AND IT'S A PROBLEM THAT I THINK OUR CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.

IT'S NOT JUST AN ANIMAL PROBLEM, THAT IT'S A, IT'S A PEOPLE CONSTITUENT ISSUE AS WELL.

SO THERE IS A CITY COUNCIL MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY.

UM, AND SO IF ANYBODY CAN SIGN UP TO COME, I'M GONNA SIGN UP TO, TO GO AND SPEAK FOR THE ANIMALS NEXT WEDNESDAY.

SO IF ANYBODY CAN DO THAT, UM, I THINK THAT A REGISTRATION'S OPEN TO SPEAK TODAY.

UM, AND SO IF, IF WE CAN DO THAT, I'LL, I'LL HAVE MY MEETING, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY INVOLVE NOT ONLY THE CAT RESCUE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO DEVELOPERS OR HOMEOWNERS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE IN THE AREA.

UM, WANT THEIR VOICE TO BE HEARD TOO.

I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO CONTINUE.

I MEAN, THAT IS THE MAIN LEGISLATIVE NETWORK.

YEAH.

SUBSCRIBE TO THEIR NEWSLETTERS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT, UM, PROPOSING MORE LEGISLATION FOR HOUSING.

THAT IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST AREAS, YOU KNOW, THAT OWNERSHIP ALONG WITH VETERINARY ACCESSIBILITY.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN'T REGULATE PRIVATE BUSINESSES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, JUST HAVING GUIDELINES, BASICALLY I'LL TALK TO DIEGO AND ASK, LET THEM KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AND PARTICIPATE IF, IF WE ARE PARTICIPATING, OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT GONNA .

SO THOSE ARE JUST MY THINGS.

YEAH.

SORRY, I JUST HAD A COUPLE THINGS TO ADD ON TO KIND OF WHAT AMANDA WAS SAYING.

I'M HOPING THAT WE SHOULD

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BE ABLE TO PRESENT ON THE DBI, UM, IN OCTOBER.

UM, BUT IT MIGHT BE, UM, FIRST, UH, OUR FIRST FY 27 MEETING, UM, BASED ON, AND IT'S BASED ON DBIS AVAIL, UH, TIMELINE AVAILABILITY.

UM, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A REALLY, UH, GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'RE GONNA DIG DOWN AND AT THAT VETERINARY ACCESSIBILITY AND LAYER ON TOP OF ALL OF THESE OTHER DEMOGRAPHICS.

UM, SOME OF THEM SIMILAR TO WHAT, UM, WAS MENTIONED IN THIS IN THE STUDY, BUT GETTING A MORE, UM, NOW FOCUSED LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE, AT THOSE ISSUES AND WHERE THOSE, THOSE, UM, ISSUES ARE CONCENTRATED SO WE CAN HELP KIND OF WITH OUR PARTNERS DIRECT RESOURCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT ALSO, I, I THINK ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR DATA IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT LIVE OUTCOME THAT'S, THAT'S BASED ON, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS.

UH, IT'S, IT'S LOOKING AT WHOLE NUMBERS YEAR OVER YEAR AND NOT AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE INTAKE.

AND SO WE, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, REFRAMING A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR Y'ALL AS WE TELL OUR STORY.

THAT'S, UH, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON, IS MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR STORYTELLING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU A BETTER, MORE COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE.

JUST WANNA SAY ONE OTHER THING.

SO, UM, BECAUSE I, I, THERE'S A 5% DECREASE ON INTAKE AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I SAVE IT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT THERE'S 5% LESS DOGS THAT NEED HELP, THAT, THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S MAYBE WE'RE TAKING, UH, TWO WEEK, YOU KNOW, TIME FOR PEOPLE TO SURRENDER THEIR OWN, THEIR DOGS, AND THEN THEY JUST DON'T COME IN.

THEY LET 'EM ON THE STREETS.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT, THAT, BUT I ALSO, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION THAT A 5% DECREASE IN INTAKE DOES NOT MEAN THERE'S LESS THOUGHTS THAT WE YEAH.

AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALL STILL GOING THROUGH THE POST COVID EFFECT, UH, THAT'S AN UGLY WORD.

IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT WE'RE STILL, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST A CITY OF DALLAS ISSUE.

THIS IS NATIONWIDE.

THIS IS REGIONAL.

WE, WE JUST, WE ALL JUST ATTENDED A CONFERENCE IN, IN AUSTIN, UH, WITH SOME OF OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALL GOING THROUGH THE SAME THINGS, THE EXACT SAME THINGS.

SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE JUST RELEGATED TO THE SENIOR DALLAS.

SO, AND WE ALL HAVE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE DOING? WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE OPPORTUNITIES? AND THESE GUYS MEET REGULARLY WITH THE LOCAL GROUP, UH, GARLAND, GRAND PRAIRIE, UH, UH, AND, UH, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TOO, THE CROSSTALK.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATION TO CONVERSATION FOR, TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE PROBLEM.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER FAULKNER DUNN, WHEN JULIAN GIVES YOU THE, OKAY.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

I'M READY.

UM, FIRST WE, I, I LOVE THAT THE FOSTER PROGRAM IS STILL GOING SO STRONG.

I THINK THAT IS SUCH A, GUYS HAVE DONE SUCH A FABULOUS JOB WITH THAT, AND I LOVE THAT THE, THAT THE FOSTER PROGRAM IS STILL JUST ROLLING AND, AND, UH, AND SAVING A LOT OF LIVES.

AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE MARKETING TEAM AND THE OUTREACH THAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEN I WANNA ASK A QUESTION ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS.

UM, IF SOMEBODY CALLS IN FOR AN INJURED DOG, WE WERE WORKING WITH, UM, MY, I, ALTHOUGH I'M IN DISTRICT 12 UP NORTH AND WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY ISSUES, BUT, BUT MY MAIN FOSTER FROM MY RESCUE SCHOOL LIVES IN OAK CLIFF.

AND I WAS WORKING WITH HER LAST WEEK AND SOMEBODY WAS KEPT POSTING ON NEXT NEXTDOOR A DOG THAT THEY CALLED 3 1 1 3 TIMES FOR AN INJURED PAIN OR SO WE THOUGHT AT FIRST WE THOUGHT IT WAS A DOBERMAN, IT WAS JUST SO THIN, IT ACTUALLY PAIN COURSE.

SO I WAS SEVERELY HAD WEIGHT.

UM, BUT EAR WAS ALMOST RIPPED OFF AND THEY WERE TOLD IT WAS A 21 DANG WEIGHT.

UM, SO THEY CALLED, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME, AND THEY CALLED BACK AGAIN AND THEY SAID, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN GET IT IN 14 DAYS.

SO WE WENT OVER THERE, SCANNED THE DOG, GOT CHIP, CALLED THE OWNER, AND I GO, YEAH, I LOST HIM LIKE FOUR MONTHS AGO.

WE SAID, DO YOU WANT IT BACK? I CAN'T REALLY AFFORD HIM, AND I'M IN A SMALL APARTMENT.

SO WE TOOK THE DOG.

SO WE NE IT NEVER CAME IN, BUT OBVIOUSLY SOMEBODY CAN'T WAIT.

OR A DOG WITH AN INJURY CAN'T WAIT FOR 21 DAYS.

SO WHAT, WHAT SHOULD THEY SAY IF IT'S A DOG THAT LITERALLY NEEDS TO BE PICKED UP? WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS ONE, AND THE DOG IS GONNA END UP HOPEFULLY BECOMING THE FACE OF THE, UH, THE LEGISLATION AGAINST PUPPY MILL DOGS BECAUSE IT ALSO TURNED OUT IT WAS ADOPTED AT , UM, LIKE A YEAR AGO.

SO SOMEBODY HADN'T SPENT BETWEEN $25,000 FOR THIS DOG THAT NOW ENDED UP ON THE STREETS INJURED BY OTHER DOGS, AND NOW THEY CAN'T REALLY AFFORD IT.

SO ANYWAY, THEY, AND WE ALREADY SENT IT ALL TO ANTIGEN BUTTON, WHO'S CHAIRING THAT COMMITTEE FOR

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THE STATE, AND HOPEFULLY GOLIATH, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE SEEING GOLIATH.

THIS IS A BIG, BEAUTIFUL BLUE, GRAY, UH, KING CORSO.

AND HE WILL BE BIG ONCE HE GAINED SOME WEIGHT.

BUT WHAT SHOULD WE TELL PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN INJURED DOG? BUT WE CAN'T GO FOR THAT.

'CAUSE WE, WE CAN'T ALWAYS DO THAT.

SO IF THEY'RE TOLD IT'S A 21 DAY WAIT, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION THAT SOMEBODY HAD WITH 3 1 1.

SO IF YOU CAN GIMME THE GRANDER OR DETAILS ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

AND I'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, I GET THE, MY GET THE NUMBERS.

YEAH.

BECAUSE THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE CASE, THAT THAT CASE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESCALATED AND ELEVATED, UH, BECAUSE IT'S SICK OR INJURED OR DANGER TO ITSELF OR SOMEONE ELSE.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD SAY IT WAS 21 DAYS.

WELL, AND ALSO SHE, THE, THE WOMAN WAS A SPANISH SPEAKER AND SHE WAS, I THINK SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, YEAH, SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE HOUSE.

AND, UH, SO SHE WOULDN'T LET THE HOUSE GO IN HER HOUSE.

SO SHE JUST GOT OUT THE FRONT AND SHE WAS, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT SAYING IT WAS A DANGER BECAUSE I THINK THE WAY IT IS WORDED, THIS IS A DANGER TO ITSELF OR OTHERS OR SOMETHING.

AND SHE DIDN'T WANT THE DOG TO BE TURNED IN AS AGGRESSIVE.

THE DOG WAS NOT AGGRESSIVE.

THE DOG WAS ITSELF, THE ONE WOULD BE.

SO ANYWAY, BUT THAT, SO THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PART OF IT TOO, THE WAY IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, THE WAY SHE WORDED IT.

YEAH.

BUT, UM, AND THEN ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT MEDICAL IS, UM, OKAY, THE STIPEND, OR IF SOMEONE IS A FOSTER AND HAS, AND THEY GET A, THEY CAN GET A $350 STIPEND, WHAT BET DOES THAT GO TO? WHAT BET CAN THEY USE THAT? NORTH DALLAS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT MAYBE DALLAS ANIMAL URGENT, BUT, OKAY.

AND I KNOW THERE USED TO BE DISSEL MEDICAL GRANTS THAT MARY MARTIN WAS GETTING SOMETIMES FOR EVEN RESCUES.

SHE WOULD ACTUALLY HELP WORK WITH US IF WE'D PULL A DOG THAT NEEDED MEDICAL AND THEN SHE COULD GET SOME MONEY, HELP DIRECT US TO GET MONEY THROUGH DISSEL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL AROUND, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS HELPFUL FOR SMALL DOG, FOR SMALL RESCUES TO TAKE, UM, MEDICAL DOGS.

UM, GOLIATH ENDED UP COSTING US $515 THAT NIGHT AT DALLAS ANIMAL ORIGIN, AND HIS HAIRS IS FIXED AND HE'S GOOD, BUT, AND I, AND, AND I'M GLAD I DIDN'T HAVE TO PICK UP A SPOT HERE.

I MEAN, IT ACTUALLY TURNED OUT TO BE GOOD BECAUSE HE ENDED UP NOT GETTING SPOT, YOU KNOW, WHICH YOU GUYS DESPERATELY NEED.

UM, BUT, SO THAT'S IT.

JUST, UM, KEEP ON DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE DOING THE BEST THAT YOU CAN, AND I, I'M JUST, I JUST WANNA SLAP ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING TO GET UP THEIR DOGS.

THERE'S SOME FOR NOT GOOD REASONS, SOME FOR REASONS THAT THEY REALLY CAN'T HELP, BUT SOME, BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THE DOG THAT'S THE BEST FOR YOU.

SO, UH, APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

THAT'S IT.

UM, EMILY, DID YOU WANNA RESPOND TO THAT? BUT I WILL, I WILL.

IF YOU CAN GIMME THE DETAILS OF ABOUT THAT CALL.

YEAH.

WE CURRENTLY USE THISTLE FOR OUR SURGERY.

SO THEY HAVE THAT GRANT RIGHT NOW FOR SURGERY COVERAGE AS NEEDED.

THEY DON'T HAVE A GRANT RIGHT NOW FOR, UM, SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL, UM, LIKE VETERINARY CARE.

THEY DO HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER OPTIONS WE'RE LOOKING INTO ALSO.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THAT IT? DID YOU GET ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY STEPH? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER DELGADO, JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY.

I'LL START YOUR TIME.

OKAY, I'M READY.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, I JUST WANNA KIND OF ECHO COMMISSIONER SANDERS SENTIMENTS ABOUT BEING, BEING A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT OUR LIVE OUTCOMES FOR, FOR DOGS.

UM, I'M WONDERING, LOOKING AT THE DATA, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE STANDING OUT TO ME.

ONE IS THE RABIES EXPOSURE.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT? IF I COULD SPEAK TO THE LIVE OUTCOMES, UH, I CAN, I CAN ATTEST TO, EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBERS MAY REFLECT THIS, WE ARE STILL MAINTAINING THAT 80, 89% VOLUTION TO DOLLARS.

THE, UM, THE RAB EXPOSURES ARE TYPICALLY HONOR STRS WITH THE BITE HISTORY, A LEVEL THREE BIT OR HIGHER THAT, UM, THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA PLACE THAT FOR OFF.

SO IT'S NO, THERE'S NO REASON TO HOLD THEM FOR 10.

THEY QUARANTINE, THEY'LL MOVE THEM.

MEDICINE SHIFT .

UM, IT JUST HOUSING AN ANIMAL FOR 10 DAYS WHEN THERE'S NO POSITIVE OUTCOME POSSIBLE FOR THEM.

AND THAT IS, UM, NOT IDEAL FOR THE ANIMAL OR FOR CHILDREN DEATH.

AND WHAT'S ALSO LOST IN THAT CONVERSATION FROM THE VICTIMS, THEY NEED TO KNOW.

YEAH.

I, I THINK, UM, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS THE DIFFERENCE POSSIBLY IN RE IN REPORTING, UM, THROUGH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, UH, 20 24, 20 25, AND 2026, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE, WE HAVE HAD SOME, IT SEEMS DIFFERENCE IN REPORTING, UM, SEEING AS HOW IN 2024 WE HAD 622 ANIMALS EUTHANIZE FOR SPACE, WHEREAS IN 20 26, 48.

SO

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THERE, CAN YOU SPEAK TO IF THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN HOW WE REPORT THESE EUTHANASIA? I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A CHANGE, BUT THERE'S NO CHANGE IN REPORTING, DECREASE AMOUNT THAT ARE BEING PLACED AT RISK FOR SPACE.

AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TAKE A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO PLACEMENT INSTEAD OF, UM, PUTTING AT RISK, AT RISK SO MANY DOGS.

UM, IN 24, WE WERE PROBABLY PLACING AT RISK DAILY FOR SPACE FALL TO 15, AND NOW DAILY IT'S THREE TO FOUR WITH THE MAJORITY OF FINDING PLACEMENT.

LIKE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS FOR THE LAST MONTH, WE EUTHANIZED FIVE TOTAL DOGS PER SPACE, WHERE, UM, PREVIOUS YEARS, IT WAS PROBABLY IN THE SEVENTIES.

UM, SO WE'VE JUST BEEN TAKING A DIFFERENT APPROACH FOR MY SHELTER OPERATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FINDING POSITIVE PLACEMENT.

FANTASTIC.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LIVE OUTCOME NUMBERS REALLY ON TRACK FOR WHERE WE ARE COUNTRYWIDE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, FROM A LARGE MUNICIPAL SHELTER.

SO, UM, THAT'S NOT THE NECESSARILY CONCERNING PART IS IT'S MORE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONERS, WE WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT YOU ALL IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN.

AND I THINK, UM, THERE'S, WE'RE HEARING FROM, AT LEAST I'M HEARING FROM MY DISTRICT THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE NUMBERS ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT THAT WE CAN BE SUPPORTIVE? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT EVEN, YOU KNOW, COMING FROM MY, OUR LAST MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT HAVING MORE TRANSPARENCY IN NUMBERS, MAYBE THAT'LL HELP OR NOT HELP.

UM, BUT WHAT IS IT THAT WE CAN DO FOR YOU ALL THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY HELPING IN, IN THESE AREAS? BECAUSE OUR DISTRICTS ARE LETTING US KNOW THAT, HEY, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND, AND WE'D LIKE TO BRING THESE THINGS UP.

BUT WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE HELPFUL IN, UM, YOU KNOW, I, WE, WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR LIMITATIONS.

THERE'S FUNDING LIMITATIONS, THERE'S SPACE LIMITATIONS, STAFF LIMITATIONS, ALL OF THESE THINGS EXIST.

UM, AND, AND THAT IS COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE.

AND WHAT CAN WE DO TODAY TO HELP MOVE THE NEEDLE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SOMEWHERE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATIONS AGAIN AND AGAIN, UM, THAT WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE MEANINGFUL PROGRESS.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO? IF YOU'RE SPEAKING AS A BODY, AS A COMMISSIONER? UH, I WOULD SAY ADVOCACY.

HAVING A ONE-ON-ONE CO, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN YOU ALL MEET WITH YOUR, YOUR COUNTERPART DISTRICT, UH, OFFICES AND YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT HAVING THOSE PRIVATE ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN DAS EVEN BRINGING THIS PRESENTATION AND, AND CALL ME INTO THE OFFICE IF YOU NEED TO, OR ONE OF US, AND WE'LL SHOW UP TOO AND WE'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS.

BUT I THINK A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND HOW THEY'RE REPORTED BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY NOT REFLECTED ON THE NUMBER OF INTAKES.

IT JUST A YEAR OVER YEAR COMPARISON, WHICH IS NOT REALLY FAIR.

UH, BUT YEAH, UH, UH, FOR ME, THE KEY THING IN, IN ALL MY YEARS, 23 YEARS WITH THE CITY OF ALEX'S EDUCATION ENGAGEMENT, ADVOCATING, I MEAN, ADVOCACY IS ONE BIG ONE BIG WAY.

UH, IF THERE'S PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, TALK ABOUT IT.

THERE'S GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

WE BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT 'EM.

AND THAT'S WITH ANYBODY.

UH, IF, IF, IF DEBORAH OR KAREN OR WHOEVER HAS A HAS GUESSING ABOUT A GRANT OPPORTUNITY, COME AND TALK TO US.

LET'S NOT JUST TALK ABOUT WHEN THINGS AREN'T GOING RIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO THINGS TO GET BETTER.

YEAH.

AND I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WANTED TO INSTILL, CONTINUE TO DO AS, UH, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE CITIZENS AS, AS, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR DISTRICTS.

UM, I THINK, AT LEAST FOR ME, I'LL SPEAK FOR ME, UM, WHAT WOULD HELP IS TO KNOW LIKE WHERE WE'RE GOING, HOW WE'RE, LIKE, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE GOAL SO THAT I CAN TALK TO MY COUNCIL MEMBER AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE WANNA DO AND HERE'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT NINE NEEDS TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THAT DONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOME SORT OF A PLAN LAID OUT FOR US WOULD BE, I THINK FOR ME, VERY HELPFUL, JUST SO I CAN SPEAK TO, AND KIND OF FOLLOW UP ON, UM, SETTING THOSE MEETINGS AND DOING ALL THOSE THINGS.

SO IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

WE ARE WORKING THROUGH DEVELOPING THAT STRUCTURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ADVOCATING, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WANNA HELP, THAT WANNA DO SOME SPONSOR EVENTS.

UM, IF,

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YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY GOOD AT WRITING GRANTS, WE DON'T HAVE A GRANT WRITER RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC .

SO, I MEAN, AND JUST RESEARCHING THE AVAILABILITY OF THOSE GRANTS.

AGAIN, OUR RESOURCES ARE LIMITED, SO I, ANY CONTRIBUTION TO TO THAT, THAT EFFORT IS ALWAYS ACCEPTABLE AND ALWAYS APPRECIATED.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAY NOT ALWAYS BE ABLE TO ACT ON IT BECAUSE GETTING GRANTS IS ACTUALLY A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS WITHIN THE CITY OR MERCY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS ANY, ANY KIND OF EXISTENCE IN THAT AREA, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR NEIGHBOR NEEDS A BAG OF FOOD, BUYING A BAG OF FOOD, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, JUST, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS CRAZY THAT THAT'S THE ONE THING, BUT YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING, IF THAT'S THE ONE BARRIER FOR THEM KEEPING THEIR ANIMALS, YOU KNOW, I, IF YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES, WELL, YOU KNOW, UM, I CAN TO THAT AS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE BRINGING UP THINGS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP, GETTING WITH US, WE CAN SET UP A LISTENING SESSION OR SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN COME THERE OR, OR LET US KNOW THAT, HEY, THERE'S A BIG GROUP HERE THAT NEEDS SOMETHING AND WE CAN, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM OUT THERE.

SO WHATEVER RESOURCES THAT WE DO HAVE THAT WE CAN GET TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO, UM, THAT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE ARE CONNECTING WITH THEM AS WELL, UM, BECAUSE WE CANNOT ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

UM, AND, UM, AND IF THEY'RE NOT COMING TO US, UM, THEN, THEN WE'RE NOT GETTING THOSE.

AND SO WORKING ON WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE COMMUNICATIONS CHANNELS STRONGER, UM, BUT THEN YOUR C BECAUSE WE CAN PROPOSE PROGRAMS ALL DAY EVERY DAY, BUT IF IT'S NOT WHAT YOUR DISTRICT NEEDS OR WHAT OUR WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I MEAN, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES? SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO OUR DEMOGRAPHICS AND, AND THOSE DESERTS TO HELP FUNNEL THOSE RESOURCES THAT, BUT WHAT HELPED TO THE PEOPLE MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE CAN SAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPAY NEUTER VAN IN THIS LOCATION ON THIS DAY TO PROVIDE FREE SPAY NEUTER, BUT IF NOBODY SHOWS UP, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY NEED? IS IT JUST EDUCATION? IS IT COMMUNICATION? IS IT TRANSPORTATION? IT'S ALL THOSE THINGS.

I, I GUESS I FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SEE THIS A LOT, EVEN LIKE WITH VOLUNTEERS WHEN THERE'S A HUGE OUTPOUR OF SUPPORT, BUT NO JOB DESCRIPTION OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT HELPFUL.

UM, SO I GUESS THAT'S WHERE I'M SAYING WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US IS TO HAVE SORT OF THOSE LANES IN WHICH WE CAN BE HELP, HELP.

I KNOW THAT TAKES YOU OUT OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M NOTICING IS THAT WE ARE INCREDIBLY ADAPTIVE.

LIKE YOU ALL ARE, YOU KNOW, CONSTANTLY EVERY DAY ADAPTING TO STUFF.

AND I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN ADAPTATION AND INNOVATION AND GIVING US SOME SPACE.

I, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE THE FUN, WE DON'T HAVE TIME, WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, BUT IN ORDER FOR THINGS TO CHANGE, SOMETHING'S GOTTA GIVE.

AND SO HAVING THAT ABILITY TO SEE ACTUALLY HOW SOMEONE CAN CONTRIBUTE, UM, I THINK WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

EVERYBODY WANTS TO HELP AND WANTS TO SEE DAS SUCCEED.

UM, I THINK WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU ALL IS THE LANES IN WHICH WE CAN DO THAT.

AND SO, THANK YOU.

AND, AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ONE OF OUR LOCAL CELEBRITIES WITH THE DALLAS COWBOYS WHO ACTUALLY SAW A VIDEO BY ONE OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS AND WANTED TO AND CAME, AND THAT HOW GONNA HELP AND DID A TOUR.

SO IF THERE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTED DO A TOUR AND SEE WHAT D ACTUALLY DOES AND HOW WE OPERATE THAT, THAT, THAT HELPS THE UNDERSTANDING OF WELL, BUT, UH, WE HEAR YOU AND I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK.

ALRIGHT.

YIELDING REST.

COMMISSIONER MATTIAS WANTS, UH, YOU GET THE GO AHEAD, JILLIAN.

LA JILLIAN.

RESET THERE.

OKAY, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

GO .

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ARE ALL OF THE FORMS THAT WE HAVE TRANSLATED TO SPANISH? YES.

YES.

OKAY.

WHAT IS THE DIVERSION THAT ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED? WHAT IS THE DIVERSION PROGRAM? EMILY, YOU WANNA TALK? CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH SBCA.

UM, SO WE HAVE A KITTEN DIVERSION PROGRAM.

ANY KITTEN THAT COMES INTO THE SHELTER, UM, THEY GO TO THEM FIRST.

WE'RE COMING TO US TO SEE WHAT RESOURCES THEY HAVE TO USE, UM, ON A DAILY BASIS.

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WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE OFFER, UM, IF WE ARE SEEING THOSE BARRIERS FOR, UM, PEOPLE TO KEEP THEIR ANIMALS.

SO WE DO HAVE FOOD ON OCCASION, WE HAVE SUPPLIES ON OCCASION, UM, BASED ON PUBLIC DONATIONS.

UM, WE HAVE A PAST PROGRAM TO OFFER THAT HELPS WITH VETERINARY CARE.

UM, SO WE TRY AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO DIVERT, UM, AND KEEP ANIMALS OUTTA THE SHELTER BEFORE COMING IN.

AND THEN WE TAKE IN AS NEEDED, UM, IN FIELD MICRO CHIPPING, IS THERE A COST TO THE OWNER? NO, MA'AM.

THERE IS NO COST TO THE OWNER.

JUST THE SIGNATURE LIABILITY.

AND THEN WE GO AHEAD AND PUT IN THE SYSTEM AND, AND THERE DOG'S MICROCHIP.

OKAY.

MAYBE DO YOU PUT THE, THE OWNER'S INFORMATION INTO THE CHIP SYSTEM? SO WHAT IT IS IS THROUGH CHAMELEON, AND BASICALLY IT GOES THROUGH, UH, WITH THE THINK IT'S PEOPLE YEAH.

24 PET WATCH, AND IT'LL BE THE OWNER'S INFORMATION WHO WILL GIVE, THEY GIVE US.

IT IS SO PERFECT.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE DON'T USE VOLUNTEERS IN, UH, ADOPTION AND INTAKE? CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, PLACEMENT FOR INTAKE.

SO WE ARE WORKING WITH VOLUNTEERS AND WE HAD BROUGHT THAT UP TOO.

UM, WE JUST NEED TO FIND THE RIGHT PLACE.

THAT MAKES SENSE SINCE THAT IS A PRETTY PUBLIC FACING TO MOVE ANIMALS THROUGH QUICKER.

RIGHT.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL AVAILABLE FOR US AS COMMISSIONERS? WE SEE SOMEBODY ON THE STREET, MAYBE THEY HAVE AN INTACT ANIMAL STOP AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA GET THE DOG N PLEASE.

UH, .

JUST SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT YEAH, I, I CAN HAVE IN MY CAR.

OUR FIELD TEAM HAS A REALLY GOOD, UH, INFORMATION BROCHURE THAT WE PASS OUT.

SO I'LL LET DANIEL YEAH.

AND THAT'S IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

PERFECT.

I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE, PLEASE.

UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UH, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN THE OFFICERS ARE IN THE FIELD, IF THEY SEE AN INTACT MALE THAT'S BEING WALKED DOWN THE STREET, DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP AND SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, YES, MA'AM.

THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP AND I TALK TO THAT OWNER THERE.

EVERYTHING.

OKAY.

I SEE A LOT IN PLEASANT GROVE.

UM, I DON'T SPEAK SPANISH, SO IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T DO A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD FOR ME TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT IF I'VE GOT SOMETHING IN SPANISH TO HAND TO THEM, I HOPE THAT WILL GIVE THEM AN INCENTIVE.

OKAY.

I DO SEE THE VANS IN, IN THE AREA, THE BIG BUS MOBILE.

IS IT A MOBILES WHERE YOU GUYS PICK 'EM UP AND TAKE THE ANIMALS TO BE SPAYED OR NEUTERED AND THEN BRING 'EM BACK? DO WE STILL HAVE THAT SERVICE GOING ON? I BELIEVE YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT THE CONCIERGE SERVICE THAT SPAY NEUTER NETWORK PROVIDES, WHERE THEY GO OUT TO DIFFERENT AREAS AND THEY PICK UP AND COORDINATE.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE'D HAVE TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE STILL DOING THIS.

YEAH, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE, BUT I WOULD BE SOMETHING.

YEAH, I'VE SEEN THEIR VAN.

I'VE SEEN THE BUS, SO, OKAY.

I GUESS THEY MAY STILL BE DOING IT.

.

YEAH, BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE, YOU KNOW, WITH MY NEIGHBORS AND WELL, PART OF THAT, PART OF THAT FLYER DOES HAVE A ACCESS TO SPAY NEUTER NETWORK SO THEY CAN MAKE THOSE APPOINTMENTS AND GET THOSE THINGS SET UP.

OKAY.

SO THEY DON'T, I I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT $350 THAT YOU'RE GIVING TO SOMEONE, UH, THAT THEY CAN ONLY USE AT A BET IN FAR NORTH DALLAS.

THAT AIN'T GONNA WORK.

UH, I WENT TO THE VET YESTERDAY AND IT WAS $175 JUST FOR HIM TO LOOK AT MY DOG AND GIVE ME SOME MEDS.

I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COULD DO THAT.

UH, I'M GLAD THAT I'M ABLE TO, IT DO IT MUCH LONGER.

IT COST $70 TO FILL UP MY CAR .

UH, BUT I JUST, THERE'S GOT TO BE MORE THAT WE CAN DO.

THERE HAS TO BE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT STIPEND IS FROM A PRIVATE DONOR.

I MEAN,

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SO WHEN PEOPLE DONATE THEIR, THEY GET TO DECIDE WHERE THAT, HOW AND WHERE THAT MONEY IS SPENT.

UM, BUT I MEAN, AGAIN, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND, AND SUCH, WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH AS TIME ALLOWS.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S THAT THAT $350 IS SPECIFIC TO ANIMALS THAT ARE IN SHELTER AND A SPECIFIC, THEY ARE NEEDING EXTRA CARE OUTSIDE THE SHELTER.

UH, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE.

SO IT IS SPECIFIC TO CERTAIN, A CERTAIN POPULATION OF ANIMALS THAT WE'RE CARING FOR A SHELTER.

OKAY.

BUT THE ANIMAL WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE CARRIED TO FAR NORTH DALLAS TO THAT CLINIC.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT'S JUST DOESN'T SEEM POSSIBLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

OKAY.

I'LL YIELD MY TIME.

AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

AND THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON BEHIND THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UH, ACCESSIBILITY SCORE AND THE LIMITS AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ACTUALLY ABLE TO HELP AND WORK WITH US.

BUT THAT'S WHY WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO PUT OUT INFORMATION.

UH, THERE'S A HUGE, UH, SPAY AND NEUTER INITIATIVE, UH, TAKING PLACE THAT WOULD WE, WE SHOULD BE SHARING THIS WITH THE COMMISSION, IT'S OPERATION PIT STOP, UH, WHERE THEY, WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS COMING IN THAT ARE LOOKING TO DO ANYWHERE FROM 500 PLUS SPAY AND NEUTER WITHIN A A WEEK'S TIME.

SO THAT, AND THAT'S FREE.

YEAH.

SO, UH, YEAH, IF, IF, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE OR YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO OUR FACEBOOK PAGE, LET US KNOW.

WE'LL SEND YOU THE FLYER.

UH, LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE SHARING IT WITH EVERYBODY.

YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO VOLUNTEER, UH, FOR THAT.

OKAY.

I MEAN, I, A CHIHUAHUA WHISPER.

.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

JOANNE, JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR ME .

ALL RIGHT, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

UM, I'M JUST GONNA GO ONE BY ONE HERE.

I DO WANNA BRING UP THE 3 1 1 THING BECAUSE, UM, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THOSE ARE OPERATORS ARE NOT DAS AND IT'S THE GETTING INCORRECT INFORMATION IS NOT EXCLUSIVE FOR DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.

I'VE HAD THAT SAME ISSUE WHERE YOU'RE NOT GETTING CORRECT INFORMATION FOR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT I'VE CALLED IN ABOUT.

SO MY QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS IS WHEN PEOPLE DO GET A RESPONSE LIKE THAT, UM, AND IF, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE REPEATEDLY CALLING AND GETTING UNSATISFACTORY RESPONSE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN GO DIRECTLY PHYSICALLY TO DAS.

IS THERE ANOTHER, ARE THERE ROUTES OF COMMUNICATION TO GET IN TOUCH DIRECTLY IN THOSE SCENARIOS? OR FOR, YOU KNOW, LISA OR WHOEVER TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO TAKE DIFFERENT ACTIONS? WELL, WE, WE, WE FORTUNATELY, ARE SO TRANSPARENT.

WE PROVIDE ALL OF OUR CONTACTS AND INFORMATION IN THIS BRIEFING, SO, OKAY.

OUR EMAILS ARE ALL THERE, SO I, SO JUST TO CORRECT DEPARTMENT YEAH.

TO THE MANAGER.

I GET EMAILS ALL THE TIME ABOUT SPECIFIC THINGS.

OKAY.

AND I TRY TO BE AS RESPONSIVE AS POSSIBLE IMMEDIATELY WHEN IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

SO YEAH, JUST, JUST LET US KNOW SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE CORRECTING ANY MISCOMMUNICATION.

OKAY.

BUT I REALLY WANNA DIG INTO THE DETAILS OF, WAS ALL THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, WAS THERE A MISUNDERSTANDING? MM-HMM.

OR IS THERE A TRAINING OPPORTUNITY AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOME SORT OF GUIDE, RIGHT? THE, THE OPERATORS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WHICH MAY BE DATED OR MAYBE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE WRONG THING, LIKE THE WRONG CATEGORY OR SOMETHING WITH THE RESPONSE.

OKAY.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT THE SEC FORENSICS, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE HAVING SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE SACS, IS THE GOAL.

I KNOW IT WAS SPCA, THEN OPK AND PARTNERSHIP, AND OBVIOUSLY DPD WORKS WITH THE ACTUAL INVESTIGATION PORTION OF THAT.

IS THE GOAL TO GET ANOTHER PARTNER OR TO BUILD UP THAT FORENSICS PERMANENTLY IN HOUSE? UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE TO DO THINGS OUT OF NECESSITY.

OKAY.

UH, WE DID PUT ON A RFP TO TRY AND FIND A PARTNER.

I SEE.

WHO WOULD TAKE ON THESE RESPONSIBILITIES.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE NO TAKERS.

UH, AND WE WILL LOOK TO REVISIT THAT, BUT I KIND OF GOT THE SENSE BEFORE WE PUT THE RFP OUT IN CONVERSATIONS THAT BASED ON THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF WHAT WE DO, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE WHO HAVE THAT CAPACITY OR BANDWIDTH TO DO SO.

MM-HMM .

UH, SO WE ARE OUT OF NECESSITY.

WE, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A FORENSICS, UH, VETERINARIAN ON STAFF, SO WE'RE CONTINUING, IT WAS SEAMLESS.

THERE WERE NO HICCUPS.

WE CONTINUE TO GO, UH, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE THESE TYPES OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT I MEAN, WE, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET ADDRESS.

UNDERSTOOD.

UH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CURRENT SPAY AND NEUTER PROTOCOL WITH JUST THE ONE THAT IN-HOUSE.

WHAT IS HAPPENING CURRENTLY WHEN ANIMALS GO OUT FOR ADOPTION, FOSTER TO ADOPT OR FOSTER, AS FAR AS WHEN THEY'RE SPAY AND NEUTERED, CALLING THEM BACK, ET CETERA? WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE? OOF.

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OKAY.

SO DO WE HAVE ADOPTIONS GOING OUT, UNFIXED, OR THOSE ARE ALWAYS GET TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OOF.

THAT'S TOUGH.

WE'RE ABLE ALSO, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PARTNERING WITH OPK FOR ABOUT A HUNDRED A MONTH OKAY.

THAT WE'RE USING BETWEEN FOSTER AND IN-HOUSE.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO STAFF, UM, SURGERY TO BE FULL SERVICE AT LEAST SIX DAYS A WEEK.

OUR SURGERY IN-HOUSE CAN USUALLY DO ABOUT 35 TO 40.

SO WE'RE DOING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN HOUSE, TOO.

THAT'S A DAY PER DAY.

YEAH.

THAT'S INSANE.

OKAY.

GREAT.

UM, AND THEN I DID JUST WANNA SAY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THIS IS A QUESTION TOO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF PAUL NEEDS TO BE BACK FOR THIS, BUT FOR EVERYONE THAT'S TERRIFIED, UM, ONE THING THAT IS A LITTLE HOPE IS OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST FORT WORTH AND THEIR MOST RECENT BOND PACKAGE DID GET JUST SHY OF $60 MILLION THAT THE PUBLIC APPROVED FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A NEW SHELTER WITH.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ANOTHER BOND CYCLE COMING UP IN, DOES ANYONE KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S EIGHT YEARS FROM NOW OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT HOW DO WE, HOW CAN WE BE PROACTIVE WHO NEEDS TO START THAT NOW SO THAT WHEN THAT COMES UP, WE'RE PREPARED AND READY AND HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO ALSO GET, YOU KNOW, FOR DALLAS COMPARED TO FORT WORTH, HOPEFULLY OURS WOULD BE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OR SOMETHING.

UM, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF STEPS, HOW DO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW SO THAT WE DON'T MISS THE NEXT BOND OPPORTUNITY? I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS THIS, TALKING ABOUT THE NEEDS AT OUR SHELTER RIGHT NOW AND THE CONDITIONS AT OUR SHELTER.

UM, WE ARE, UM, BEING VERY TRANSPARENT, UM, WITH, UM, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

UM, I, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE SENT OVER SOME VIDEOS AND SOME THINGS, UH, THAT ARE GOING TO BE SHARED WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY AT LARGE ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUES, UM, AT THE SHELTER.

UM, AND HIGHLIGHTING THOSE, THOSE THINGS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, UM, SOME ISSUES THAT WE JUST AREN'T, ARE NOT ABLE TO ADDRESS AT THE SHELTER.

UM, AND, UH, WE ARE ARE WORKING AROUND AND THROUGH, UM, UM, AND WE ARE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH, WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.

BUT, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THE PUBLIC AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW, UM, WHAT THOSE, UM, THOSE ISSUES ARE WITHIN THE SHELTER, I THINK IS A BIG PART.

GETTING THEM TO COME.

UM, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE NEW YORK COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVEN'T BEEN TO OUR SHELTER, GETTING THEM, GETTING WITH THEM AND SAYING, HEY, COME OUT AND LOOK AT THE SHELTER.

WE'LL GIVE THEM A TOUR.

AND, AND, AND SURE.

KIND OF LET THEM TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE IN THE SHELTER AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE ARE, WE HAVE, UM, ONE OF THE LARGEST, UM, CAPACITY SHELTERS, UM, SINGLE SHELTERS FOR MUNICIPALITY, YOU KNOW, IN THE COUNTRY.

AND I THINK TALKING ABOUT THAT, UM, AND LETTING 'EM KNOW THAT THE, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU EVEN COME HERE, FORT WORTH HAS TWO, HAS TWO BUILDINGS.

UM, THE WAY THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF 'CAUSE OF THAT FLEXIBILITY, BUT MAYBE THAT'S NOT, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST ANSWER FOR DALLAS.

AND, BUT FIGURING OUT WHAT OUR BEST ANSWER IS AND THEN GETTING THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, UM, WHAT, WHAT I'M ASKING SPECIFICALLY IS I WANNA KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE, I DON'T KNOW WHO NEEDS TO DO THIS, BUT I WANT WHOEVER TO GO TO FORT WORTH ANIMAL SERVICES AND FIND OUT HOW DID THEY ADVOCATE FOR THAT? HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? WHO DID WHAT, AT WHAT POINT? AND HOW CAN WE DUPLICATE THAT EFFORT? BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY WORKED.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A FRIENDS OF GROUP, IF THAT, IF THAT WAS PART OF IT, IF IT WAS ALL CITY STAFF, IT WAS, UH, SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS OR COMMUNITY THAT REALLY ADVOCATED AND BROUGHT PEOPLE TOGETHER TO COMMUNICATE TO THIS, UH, CITY COUNCIL.

HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE FIND THAT OUT? WHO NEEDS TO GO AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEY DID IT AT THE END OF THE DAY? AT THE END OF THE DAY, STEPHANIE, I MEAN, IT'S, IF IT'S NOT SHOWN AS A NEED BY THE COMMUNITY RIGHT.

IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

BUT I JUST WANNA KNOW IF THEY DID THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OR WAS IT SOMEONE THEY GOT A HUGE FUNDER IN THAT DID THIS, YOU KNOW, AN OUTSIDE SORT OF THE PERSON DONATING, DID, DID SOME INDIVIDUAL COME IN AND AND CARRY THE TORCH THAT WAS ALREADY HAD THE RELATIONSHIPS? I MEAN, DO, DO YOU GUYS HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM? CAN WE JUST ASK? YES.

CAN WE FIND OUT? WE, WE, WE'VE ACTUALLY DID A, A IN-PERSON VISIT AND HAD CROSS CROSS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOME THINGS.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT WITH ANYTHING, THEY, IT PROBABLY WENT THROUGH A BOND PACKAGE YEARS AGO AND JUST CAME TO FRUITION AND WAS BUILT.

UH, BUT THEY DID TALK ABOUT, THEY DID TALK ABOUT, THEY DID TALK ABOUT THAT THE FACILITY THAT THEY WERE IN WAS SEVERELY OUT OF DATE.

YEAH.

AND, AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PREDICATED THAT, BUT YEAH.

WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

YEAH.

JUST, I'M SURE THE DIRECTOR WOULD KNOW THE, THE PATH THE LAST 10 YEARS THAT GOT THEM TO GET $60 MILLION, UM, PASSING THE BOND.

AND WE JUST NEED SOME OF THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR, SO.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, NOT TO SIM A VERY SIMILAR DEMOGRAPHIC OF COURSE, TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT PASSED.

YEAH.

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AND, AND, BUT JUST TO, TO ELABORATE ON THAT, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD VISITS WITH GARLAND, WE'VE HAD VISITS WITH, UH, UH, ARLINGTON.

WE'VE HAD VISITS WITH FORT WORTH, DENTON.

YEP.

UH, SEVERAL OTHER LOCATIONS TO, TO, TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M SPECIFICALLY INTERESTED IN HOW THEY GOT A $60 MILLION BOND PASSED FOR DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.

SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS THAT FOR THE NEXT ONE SESSION OF DALLAS.

WELL, AND I WOULD'VE, I WOULD PIGGYBACK ON WHAT AMANDA IS SAYING IS IT'S BASED ON THE COMMUNITY'S PRIORITIES.

AND, AND IF THE COMMUNITY'S PRIORITIES IS NOT DASI MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA SURE.

NO, I GET THAT.

I, I JUST, I JUST AM WONDERING, LIKE, IS THAT IT, LIKE A CONSTITUENCY FROM THE PUBLIC WAS SHOWING UP AT EVERY CITY COUNCIL.

I WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FOR THEM TO GET THAT PODCAST PASS SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO REPLICATE IT HERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, THERE'S, IF YOU CAN DIG IN WITH THE DIRECTOR ON LIKE, VERY SPECIFICS, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING AS NOEL ASKED THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY WORK ON AS A COMMISSION AND GO TO OUR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE.

HERE'S AN ACTIVE GOAL WE'RE CHASING, WE NEED THIS AND WE NEED TO GET THIS THREE YEARS BEFORE, FIVE YEARS BEFORE, ET CETERA.

YEAH.

AT ONE OF MY PREVIOUS SHELTERS, UM, WE DID A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

I MEAN, IT WAS A FIVE YEAR PROCESS MM-HMM .

RIGHT.

HAD, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE GOTTA START NOW.

WE HAD, WE HAD TO HAVE CITY SUPPORT TO DO A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

WE DID A FULL NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AND THEN IT TOOK A COUPLE YEARS 'CAUSE COVID HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE.

UM, AND THEN WE HAD TO PRESENT IT.

WE HAD TO GET COMMUNITY SUPPORT IN ORDER TO GO TO, UM, THE ACTUAL BOND COMMITTEE.

MM-HMM .

SO, I MEAN, IT, IT'S, WE GOT SOME TIME.

'CAUSE THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANOTHER BOND, UM, ISSUE UNTIL FOR EIGHT YEARS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT THAT'S IF SOMETHING TAKES FIVE YEARS.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO START NOW.

EXACTLY.

BUT YES.

UM, SO I'D LOVE THAT, IF THAT'S A GOAL, THAT IT IS ATTAINABLE BY THE NEXT MEETING.

IF WE COULD JUST GET FEEDBACK OF LIKE, SPECIFICS FROM FORT WORTH, YOU KNOW, JUST GIVE US SOME, SOME OF THE TOP LINE THINGS.

AND MAYBE IT IS THAT SOMEONE CAME IN THAT HAS A BUNCH OF MONEY AND COULD WRANGLE, YOU KNOW, PR AND SUPPORT OR WHATEVER.

I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA.

BUT IF WE COULD GET SOME OF THOSE PIECES.

YEAH.

AND SO TO KIND OF ELABORATE TOO, IS THAT PART OF, UM, THE BOND PROGRAM PACKAGING BEGINS WITH THE CITY'S NEEDS INVENTORY MM-HMM .

UM, AND WE ARE IN THERE.

UM, SO, BUT THEN THAT NEEDS INVENTORY GETS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMMED BASED ON, UM, THE BOND PROGRAM, UM, UM, COMMITTEES MM-HMM .

AND SO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE VOICES DURING THOSE COMMITTEE PROCESSES IS GOING TO BE, UM, THE BIGGEST DRIVER FOR THAT.

UM, UH, AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE LAST BOND PROGRAM PIECE FOR, UM, FOR DAS, UM, ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

UH, BUT, UM, HAVING THAT ADVOCACY, UM, IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND I THINK IT WAS ALSO ABOUT, UM, WHEN THAT CAME UP AS BEING ADDED TO THAT.

AND SO THAT THE FACT THAT WE ARE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS ALREADY, UM, IS, IS A BIG PART OF THAT.

AND I'M, I'M VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO, TO BE ADDED INTO THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM.

YEAH, SURE.

LET'S JUST TRANSLATE THAT HOPE TO SOME ACTION ITEMS. LET'S DO IT.

UM, OKAY.

GREAT.

UH, LET'S SEE.

I WILL YIELD THE REST OF MY 54 SECONDS.

WE DO NOT HAVE TIME FOR ANOTHER FIVE MINUTE ROUND, BUT WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH THE COMMISSIONERS IF YOU HAVE TIME LEFT AND WANT TO DO ANY FOLLOW UP.

SO WE'LL START WITH, UH, DID WE START WITH COMMISSIONER JAMESON FIRST? OKAY.

I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER GOGI FIRST.

I'M OUT OF TIME COMMISSIONER, UH, GOGI.

YOU HAD SOME TIME LEFT OVER.

IF YOU WANNA BRING UP ANYTHING ELSE.

IF YOU DO, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL ADD IT.

YEP.

OKAY.

GIMME ONE SECOND.

YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES, 25 SECONDS LEFT.

AND IF YOU ARE READY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START IT.

YOU CAN START.

UH, SO I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING, UM, THE GRANT WRITING.

IS THAT SOMETHING VOLUNTEERS CAN DO OR DOES THAT REQUIRE, UH, UM, UH, STAFF, CITY STAFF TO WHATEVER MAY, MAYBE PRIVACY CONCERNS? YEAH.

AND THE CITY HAS A GRANTS OFFICE THAT WE WORK WITH, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION AND WE TAKE ANY UNSOLICITED HELP THAT WE CAN.

OKAY.

UM, JUST BECAUSE I, I'VE, I CAN VOLUNTEER AS A GRANT WRITER IF, UH, YEAH.

IF THAT'S NEEDED.

I JUST HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE DOING THAT.

WE WILL TAKE IT ALL.

YEAH.

I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER JAMESON, YOU UP HER TIME? CORRECT.

OKAY.

BUT IF WE GET THROUGH EVERYBODY'S TIME AND YOU WANNA MAKE A ROUND TO START, WE CAN, IT PROBABLY WON'T BE UP FOR FIVE MINUTES.

22 MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, DID COMMISSIONER SANDERS HAVE ANY TIME LEFT? SHE HAS ONE MINUTE AND SIX.

UH, COMMISSIONER SANDERS, ARE YOU GONNA, DO YOU WANNA DO FOLLOW UPS? OKAY.

LEMME KNOW AS WE, UH, OH, ARE YOU READY?

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OKAY.

AS WE GO FORWARD INTO, UH, BEING ADVOCATES FOR DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES WITH OUR, UM, COUNCIL PERSON AND WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, AND AS WE'RE LOOKING AT BUDGETS, COULD WE GET, WE DON'T HAVE HAVE IT NOW, BUT CAN WE GET A LIST OF THOSE TOP FIVE THINGS THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING ON THE SAME TALKING POINTS THAT YOU NEED, UM, THAT WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR.

SO WE'RE NOT SAYING WE NEED THIS HUGE BUDGET, AND WE NEED THIS.

LIKE, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF WE GOT WHAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY NEED INSTEAD OF JUST SUPPORT DAS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, I AM SO HAPPY THAT WE HAVE A FULL MARKETING STAFF, AND I HAVE LOVED, I'VE LAUGHED AT A LOT OF THE POSTS ON FACEBOOK AND ON INSTAGRAM.

THEY'VE BEEN ENGAGING AND THEY'VE BEEN FUN.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR, UM, AN EXTENSION TO TIKTOK, BECAUSE YOU'RE, THEIR ALGORITHM IS DIFFERENT.

YOU'RE NOT TALKING TO THE SAME GROUPS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL ADVOCATES AND FOLLOWERS.

THEY, IT GOES OUT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN ANIMAL.

NOW, OF COURSE, THAT WOULD BE A NATIONWIDE THING, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF SNOW THAT YOU HAVE LOTS ON YOUR PLATE, BUT, UM, ADVOCATE FOR A LITTLE BIT OF ATTENTION TO THAT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER SANDERS.

THIS YOUR TIME.

THERE.

GO.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

UM, STAFF CAN ADDRESS THAT.

SO WE ARE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED, UM, BY THE STATE OF TEXAS TO BE ON T ON TIKTOK.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, OUR FRIENDS OF GROUP, UH, DOES HAVE A TIKTOK, UM, AND THAT, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH THEM ABOUT, UM, THAT, THAT, BUT, UM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO BE IN PROGRAMMING ON, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE, UM, THE FOR MARKETING TEAM.

UM, AND I THINK, UM, NEXT, UM, NEXT MEETING, WE CAN, UM, HOPEFULLY SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME, UH, PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'VE HAD ON THAT MARKETING FRONT AS WELL.

SO AS FAR AS TALKING POINTS GO, I, I, WE CAN'T SUPPLY ANY TALKING POINTS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE BIGGEST THING IS ADVOCACY.

IF YOU, THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING WELL OR THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LACKING IN BASED ON THESE CONVERSATIONS, I WOULD SUGGEST THOSE ARE THE STARTING POINTS FOR YOUR CONVERSATION.

NOW, IF YOU NEED TO BRING US INTO THE ROOM TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I, I, I CAN'T ADVOCATE FOR, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

THE CITY STAFF IS NOT ALLOWED TO SPECIFICALLY ADVOCATE LIKE THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, GUYS, WE NEED TO KEEP IT TO OUR ROUNDS.

NO.

UM, IS THAT DONE WITH STAFF ADDRESSING? OKAY.

YES.

UH, COMMISSIONER FAULKNER, DONE.

YOU HAVE 54 SECONDS IF YOU'D LIKE TO UTILIZE THEM.

IF SO, JUST LET ME KNOW.

I'LL AT IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

GIMME ONE SECOND.

AJU.

ALL RIGHT.

WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.

I'M FOLLOWING UP ON, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUEST FOR AS WE'RE COMING INTO BUDGET SEASON, AND THEN WE WANNA BE GOING TO THESE BUDGET MEETINGS.

AND IS THERE, ARE THERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THAT SPECIAL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WE COULD JUST SAY, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE ADVOCATING FOR ABOUT THE MEETING.

SO WE AT LEAST KNOW, LIKE, HERE'S, WE DON'T WANT THIS BUDGET CUT.

IF, SO, WE ALREADY HAVE THIS PERCENTAGE OVERAGE, AND IT'S A JUST, SO WE'RE JUST, SO WE'RE SAYING THINGS THAT ARE NOW TO SAY, HEY, THINGS ARE REALLY BAD THERE, WE NEED HELP.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT JUST, THAT DOESN'T MOVE THE, WELL, I, I COULD TELL YOU THIS, THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH A, A NEW PROCESS FOR THE SECOND YEAR.

IT'S CALLED PRIORITY BASED BUDGET.

AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT PROGRAMS BASED ON MANY NEW PRIORITIES, CITY DRUG.

SO IF YOU ARE WATCHING AND, AND LOOKING AT THESE TOWN HALLS AND THESE PRESENTATIONS, THEY'LL BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE COMING UP ABOUT, SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'RE CONSIDERING.

UH, AND THAT'S WHEN THE COUNCIL HAS THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES TO WHAT THE CITY MANAGER IS PROPOSING.

BUT, UH, I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW IMPORTANT DAS IS, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.

UH, SO I, I, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE, BUT, UH, ADVOCACY IS, IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.

UM, ALSO, ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE GRANT.

I THINK THERE'S SEVERAL OF US THAT WE RAN, BUT WE DON'T LIKE TO SAY THAT OUT LOUD.

YES.

BUT IF, IF, IF YOU WERE TO HELP WITH GRANT LINING, SO SAY IF SOMEBODY KNEW HOW TO DO THAT, THEN ARE YOU, UH, DOES THAT MONEY GO GO DIRECTLY TO DAS OR JUST DOES ? THERE ARE, ARE TWO OPPORTUNITIES HERE.

ONE IS WE, UH, THANKFULLY WITH, UH, UH, OTIS, THEY, THEY CAN DO SOME GRANT WRITING.

UH, AND THERE'S ALSO THE CITY SIDE.

THE CITY CAN DO GRANT WRITING.

SO WE'VE DONE IT BOTH WAYS.

WE'VE DONE GRANTS THROUGH BAS THAT PAID FOR THE CITY.

WE'VE DONE GRANTS THROUGH OTIS, THAT WENT THROUGH OTIS.

SO EITHER WAY IT'S, IT, AS LONG AS THERE'S FUNDS ASSOCIATED WITH SUPPORTING DAS, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT EITHER TAB.

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THAT WAS ACTUALLY, UH, COMMISSIONER FALER ON YOUR TIME, BUT WE HAVE 26 SECONDS FOR COMMISSIONER DELGADO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO USE THEM 26 SECONDS.

WELL, AND AFTER, SO AFTER THAT, WE ONLY HAVE, UH, TWO MORE SPEAKERS WITH REMAINING TIME.

YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR A ROUND OF THREE MINUTES.

PROBABLY NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT IF THEY WANT TO IT THREE EXTRA MINUTES.

UM, SO LET ME KNOW AND I CAN START YOUR TIME.

MR. DELGADO.

26 SECONDS.

TAKE IT.

LEAVE IT.

YEAH.

UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PRIORITIZING THAT ABILITY TO GIVE US SOME SORT OF FRAMEWORK AS TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING, I THINK WILL HELP US ADVOCATE.

SO I'LL JUST KINDA LEAVE IT THAT.

BUT, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER MATHAS.

GIMME ONE SECOND.

YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE AND 32 SECONDS.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO LEAVE, SIR, IF SO, JUST LET ME KNOW.

I'LL START YOUR TIME.

I'LL YIELD MY TIME.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THEN CHAIR ELECT CASEY HAVE 52 SECONDS FOR YOU.

OKAY.

OH, NO, YOU'RE RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

UM, WE'RE GONNA GO TO MY PHONE.

, THERE'S NOT, NOT MUCH TIME FOR IT.

GIMME ONE SECOND HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

UM, I DID WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO FOTI.

UM, THEY DID SEND AN EMAIL OUT OVER THE LAST WEEK ABOUT THE ADVOCACY WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE UPCOMING BUDGET MEETINGS AND, UH, REACHING OUT TO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO THAT WAS HELPFUL.

UM, I DID ALSO WANNA SHARE WITH ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, ESPECIALLY THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, THE FIRST TERM THAT I SERVED, I HAD A STANDING MONTHLY WITH MY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO TALK ABOUT ISSUES THAT WERE GOING ON AND RELAY THE REPORTS LIKE THESE.

UM, EVERY QUARTER NOW, WE JUST COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER WHEN NECESSARY.

SO IT'D BE GREAT TO, IF YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN A TOUR WITH THEM OF DAS, GRAB THEM, GET THEM TO DAS AND ESTABLISH THAT RELATIONSHIP AS SUGGESTED SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH THEY IN THEIR OFFICE WHEN ISSUES DO COME UP OR THEY WANT A COMM COMMUNITY MEETING, SOMEONE WRITES THEM WITH A QUESTION, YOU HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M ON TIME, BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST ENCOURAGED FOR EVERYBODY.

LIKE, THAT'S KIND OF JUST WHERE TO START, I THINK, WITH, UH, CONNECTING WITH THAT COMMUNITY FOR YOUR DISTRICT.

AND, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE YIELD.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE HAVE MORE TO SAY, BUT MAYBE, UM, JAMESON AND SANDERS RUN OUT OF TIME, SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ANOTHER ROUND FOR WE HAVE A MINUTE OR SOMETHING FOR EVERY COMMISSIONER , WE COULD, WE COULD PROBABLY DO TWO.

OKAY.

UH, PUSHING IT, BUT YEAH.

UH, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ANOTHER ROUND? HAVE MORE TO SAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I GUESS THAT'S IT.

SO, UM, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO ADJOURN, SO WE'LL NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO MOVED SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT IS THE ADJOURNMENT OF OUR MEETING.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

SEE YOU NEXT TIME.