GOOD MORNING. TODAY IS MAY 26TH. IT IS 9:07 AND I CALL TO ORDER THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE. [Housing and Homelessness Solutions on May 26, 2026. ] [00:00:08] OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 21ST MINUTES FOR THAT MEETING. SO MOVED. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE AND I. DO I HEAR ANY CORRECTIONS? OKAY. WE HAVE YEAH, WE HAD A SECOND. AND SO ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WELL, THIS MORNING WE ARE SO HAPPY TO WELCOME A SPECIAL GUEST. WE HAVE TWO, THREE FOLKS FROM THE SALVATION ARMY. YEP. AND WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO IS COME UP TO THESE FRONT TABLES. THERE'S MICROPHONES LIKE THIS. YOU HAVE TO MOVE THEM MUCH CLOSER THAN YOU THINK IS NORMAL AND PUSH THE BUTTON SO IT'S GREEN. AND WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO IS PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES. AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT YOUR CAMPUS AND YOUR CAMPUS TO BE. GOOD MORNING. I'M MAJOR ROB WEBB, THE AREA COMMANDER FOR THE SALVATION ARMY OF NORTH TEXAS. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH YOU THIS MORNING AND GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE NEW DALLAS SOCIAL SERVICES CAMPUS. I HAVE WITH ME, MAJOR, A MAJOR CHRISTINA CAVALIER, OUR MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR THE SALVATION ARMY HERE IN NORTH TEXAS. AND IN THE GALLERY THERE, WE HAVE MR. JOHN HAWKINS, WHO IS AN ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER AND CHAIR OF OUR PROGRAMS AND SERVICES COMMITTEE. SO WE JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON ALL OF THE EXCITING THINGS GOING ON AT THE SALVATION ARMY. AND JUST A WEEK AGO, WE HAD A TOPPING OFF CEREMONY WHERE WE CELEBRATED PLACING THAT LAST STRUCTURAL BEAM IN PLACE AND KIND OF REALLY SIGNIFYING THE 50% COMPLETION OF OUR PROJECT, WHICH WE LOOK TO HAVE DONE THE SUMMER OF 27. AND IT IS GOING TO MAKE A HUGE IMPACT IN THE HOMELESS SERVICES ARENA HERE IN DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY. AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE CARR P. COLLINS CENTER, WHICH IS OPERATED ON HARRY HINES FOR JUST OVER 40 YEARS NONSTOP SERVING ABOUT 400 PEOPLE A NIGHT. AND WHEN THE NEW CAMPUS IS BUILT, WILL BE RETIRING CARR P. COLLINS. BUT WE'LL BE EXCITED BECAUSE THE NEW CAMPUS WILL PROVIDE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE EVEN MORE FOLKS FROM DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY. SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO CHRISTINA, WHO'S GOING TO TAKE US THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION TODAY. THANK YOU, MAJOR ROB. AGAIN, I'M CHRISTINA CAVALIER, THE MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR THE SALVATION ARMY OF NORTH TEXAS, AND I'LL WALK THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION AND SHARE MORE WITH YOU ABOUT THE SALVATION ARMY'S DALLAS SOCIAL SERVICES CAMPUS. SO AS MAJOR ROB SAID WE WILL PLAN TO OPEN THAT CAMPUS SEPTEMBER 2027. SO IF WE, I'M NOT SURE WHO'S CONTROLLING THE DECK, BUT IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE SKIPPING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND IF YOU JUST SAY NEXT SLIDE, I'LL ADVANCE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A GREAT NEED IN DALLAS COUNTY. AND SO THE SOCIAL SERVICES CAMPUS IS REALLY DEDICATED TO HELPING THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, POVERTY AND OR ADDICTION IN DALLAS COUNTY SPECIFICALLY. THE SALVATION ARMY HAS A MYRIAD OF LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT OUR SIX COUNTY SERVICE AREA HERE IN NORTH TEXAS. AND THIS CAMPUS WILL BE THE HUB FOR OUR VARIOUS LOCATIONS IN DALLAS COUNTY SPECIFICALLY. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE CREATED A CAMPAIGN AND A RESPONSE THAT CAME OUT OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN TO HAVE AN IMPACT HERE IN NORTH TEXAS CALLED THE ONE ARMY MANY FRIENDS CAMPAIGN. AND THIS DALLAS SOCIAL SERVICES CAMPUS IS THE FLAGSHIP PROJECT OF THAT CAMPAIGN. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THROUGH THE STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE CAMPAIGN, WE ARE ALIGNING WHAT WE CALL THE FOUR P'S PEOPLE, PROGRAMS, PARTNERSHIPS AND PLACES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE MAXIMUM IMPACT POSSIBLE ON PEOPLE EXPERIENCING POVERTY, HOMELESSNESS, AND ADDICTION. AND THAT'S REALLY CRITICAL. WE WANT TO HAVE THE BEST PEOPLE ON OUR TEAM POSSIBLE, SO WE CAN PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES TO PEOPLE IN NEED. WE WANT TO HAVE PROGRAMS THAT ARE EVIDENCE BASED AND OUTCOMES ORIENTED, REALLY EXTENDING THAT AND WHAT WE DO NOW, AND WE WANT TO LEVERAGE PARTNERSHIPS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE EXPERTISE OF OTHERS, COMBINED WITH OUR EXPERTISE TO PROVIDE, AGAIN, THOSE BEST SERVICES FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN NEED. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE IMPACT THAT WE EXPECT TO HAVE THROUGH THIS ONE ARMY MANY FRIENDS INITIATIVE. YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR PLAN IS TO ENHANCE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO HELP 31,000 PEOPLE EACH AND EVERY YEAR IN VULNERABLE NEIGHBORHOODS IN DALLAS COUNTY ALONE. WE WANT TO EXPAND SAFE SHELTER AND SUPPORT TO MORE THAN 4,000 OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS. [00:05:02] AND PREVENT AND END HOMELESSNESS FOR 1,700 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN AGAIN EACH YEAR. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. THE DALLAS SOCIAL SERVICES CAMPUS IS, AS I SAID, THE HUB, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT. BUT REALLY INTEGRAL TO OUR STRATEGY IS CONNECTING WHAT WE CALL CORE COMMUNITY CENTERS IN DALLAS COUNTY WITH THAT HUB. AND SO AT THOSE CORE COMMUNITY CENTERS, WE PROVIDE SERVICES THAT ARE ANTI-POVERTY SERVICES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO HELP PEOPLE STAY IN THEIR HOMES. SO IT'S THINGS LIKE PROVIDING YOU KNOW, FOOD ASSISTANCE, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, FINANCIAL LITERACY CLASSES, YOUTH EDUCATION PROGRAMS, THOSE WRAPAROUND SERVICES TO HELP PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE STABLE. THAT'S HOW WE WILL IMPACT 31,000 LIVES EACH AND EVERY YEAR. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR DALLAS SOCIAL SERVICES CAMPUS HAS A MIX OF SERVICES THAT WILL PROVIDE. YOU SEE HERE ON THE CAMPUS MAP THAT WE HAVE FIVE BUILDINGS ON 21 ACRES. THE CAMPUS IS LOCATED OFF OF 35 BY REGAL ROW. SO IT'S NOT FAR FROM WHERE THE CARR P. COLLINS SOCIAL SERVICE CENTER IS TODAY, WHICH WAS REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE WERE LOOKING FOR THE LOCATION FOR THIS CAMPUS, WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A CONCENTRATION OF NEED. WE WANTED TO STAY CLOSE TO OUR PARTNERS LIKE PARKLAND, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THESE SOLUTIONS. SO ON THE CAMPUS, WE WILL FEATURE CO-LOCATED SERVICES THROUGH A MYRIAD OF PARTNERS. AGAIN, SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICES TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN NEED. YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT AT THE FRONT OF THE MAP, WE HAVE A SOCIAL SERVICE CENTER. THAT'S THE POINT OF ENTRY OF THE CAMPUS. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL WALK THROUGH EVERY BUILDING ON THE CAMPUS AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE PEEK INTO WHAT WE'LL BE DOING ON THE CAMPUS. SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE A CLOSE UP RENDERING OF OUR SOCIAL SERVICES CENTER. SO AS I SAID, THIS IS THE ENTRY POINT FOR EVERYONE ON THE CAMPUS, WHETHER IT'S SOMEONE SEEKING ASSISTANCE, SOMEONE COMING TO VOLUNTEER, OR FOR A MEETING ON THE CAMPUS. IN THIS BUILDING, WE'LL HAVE A COMMUNITY PARTNER HUB WHERE WE'LL HAVE OFFICES FOR THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WILL HELP US ON THE CAMPUS, SUCH AS LEGAL AID, FOR EXAMPLE. WE'LL HAVE A CHOICE FOOD PANTRY THERE AS WELL. WE ARE A PARTNER AGENCY OF THE NORTH TEXAS FOOD BANK NOW, AND WE'LL CONTINUE THAT PARTNERSHIP AS WE MOVE ON TO THE CAMPUS. AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THAT CHOICE FOOD PANTRY FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS PEOPLE RESIDING ON THE CAMPUS, SO THAT IF THEY NEED FOOD ASSISTANCE, THEY CAN COME AND SHOP FOR THE ITEMS THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO MEET THEIR FOOD NEEDS. WE WILL ALSO HAVE HOMELESS PREVENTION SERVICES ON THE CAMPUS FOR THOSE IN THE AREA THAT PERHAPS AREN'T YET HOMELESS, BUT NEED HELP STAYING IN THEIR HOMES. WE ALL KNOW THAT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO HELP PEOPLE, AND IT'S THE MOST STABLE AND SECURE WAY TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT ON THE CAMPUS IS THAT IN THIS SOCIAL SERVICES CENTER, WE WILL HAVE AN INTEGRATED MEDICAL, DENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINIC IN WHICH WE'LL PARTNER WITH PARKLAND FOR THE MEDICAL AND DENTAL CARE AND METRO CARE FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES. WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THEM NOW, SO WE'LL BE EXPANDING AND DEEPENING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS ON THE CAMPUS. AND THE IDEA IS THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE RESIDING WITH US ON THE CAMPUS, THIS REALLY HELPS MITIGATE A LOT OF THE BARRIERS THAT THEY HAVE TO FACE. AND NAVIGATING MULTIPLE SYSTEMS NOW, AS THEY HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES. SO BY HAVING THOSE SERVICES AVAILABLE TO SINGLE MEN, SINGLE WOMEN AND CHILDREN ON THE CAMPUS, WE HOPE THAT THEY'LL HAVE GREATER SUCCESS. AND WITH CLIENT PERMISSION, WE WILL HAVE SHARED MEDICAL RECORDS AMONGST THE PROVIDERS. SO THAT THAT, AGAIN, KIND OF MITIGATES THOSE FRICTION POINTS THAT CLIENTS OFTEN HAVE WITH REALLY HELPING TO ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES AS THEY RECEIVE THE CARE THAT THEY NEED. SO IF WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE OUR EMERGENCY SHELTER AND HARBOR HOUSE. SO AS I'M SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY SHELTER IS OFTEN THE POINT AT WHICH CLIENTS COME TO US. SO ON OUR CAMPUS, WE WILL HAVE EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR SINGLE MEN, SINGLE WOMEN AND FAMILIES. WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, SO WE HAVE DEDICATED SPACE FOR THEM STARTING AT OUR EMERGENCY SHELTER AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS. IN THE EMERGENCY SHELTER, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TEN APARTMENTS THERE SPECIFICALLY FOR FAMILIES. THE HARBOR HOUSE IS WHAT WE WILL USE FOR SURVIVORS OF SEX TRAFFICKING AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. AND SO IT'S A SECURE BUILDING. IT HAS ITS OWN PLAYGROUND THAT IS ALSO SECURE FOR CHILDREN. YOU KNOW, GROUP ROOMS, A SHARED LIVING SPACE KITCHEN, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT IF CLIENTS AREN'T COMFORTABLE WHEN THEY FIRST ARRIVE AND GOING TO OTHER PLACES ON THE CAMPUS, THEY CAN STAY IN THAT BUILDING WHILE THEY FEEL SAFE AND STABLE. THROUGH THESE TWO BUILDINGS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO HELP 2,500 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN EACH YEAR. AND SIX TIMES MORE PEOPLE WILL END THEIR HOMELESSNESS THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS ALONE THAN CURRENTLY WE SERVE AT CARR P. COLLINS. I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US AS WE DESIGNED THIS CAMPUS IS WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHY CLIENTS DON'T SEEK SHELTER, NOT JUST WITH THE SALVATION ARMY, BUT WITH ANY PROVIDER. [00:10:01] AND SO AS PART OF OUR RESEARCH AND PLANNING AND DESIGN PROCESS, WE SPOKE TO SOME OF THOSE CLIENTS AND ASKED THEM WHY THEY DON'T SEEK SHELTER. AND THEN THOSE POINTS THAT THEY TOLD US ARE INTENTIONALLY INTEGRATED IN THE DESIGN OF THE CAMPUS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY SHARED IS THAT THEY DID NOT FEEL SAFE AND SECURE WITH MASS SHELTERING. SO WE'VE ELIMINATED MASS SHELTERING ON THE CAMPUS ALTOGETHER. SO ALL OF OUR SPACES, INCLUDING OUR EMERGENCY SHELTER, ARE SEMI-PRIVATE LIVING QUARTERS. SO WE WON'T HAVE ANY ROOMS OF BUNK BEDS. AND THEN WE HAVE PERSONAL LOCK STORAGE FOR EVERYONE ON THE CAMPUS SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO FEEL LIKE THEIR BELONGINGS ARE SAFE. THEN AS PEOPLE CONTINUE THEIR JOURNEY, IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO QUICKLY RESOLVE THEIR HOMELESSNESS. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE OUR SUPPORTIVE LIVING COMPLEX. AND THIS IS A REALLY LARGE BUILDING THAT IS COMPRISED OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT SHELTER PROGRAMS IN IT. WE HAVE OVER 295 BEDS ALONE IN THIS BUILDING. AND IN THIS BUILDING, WE SERVE SINGLE MEN, SINGLE WOMEN, FAMILIES. WE HAVE A RECUPERATIVE CARE PROGRAM THAT WE DO RIGHT NOW WITH PARKLAND AT CARR P. COLLINS THAT WILL EXTEND OVER TO THE CAMPUS AND EXPAND CAPACITY. SO FOR HIGH UTILIZERS OF THE ER AND FOR THOSE THAT HAVE HAD SOME SORT OF OPERATION OR NEED ONGOING MEDICAL CARE, WE HAVE BEDS DEDICATED FOR THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO, THEY CAN COME TO THOSE BEDS. AND THEN WE HAVE NURSE PRACTITIONERS AND DOCTORS THAT COME TO THE CAMPUS AND ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE ONGOING CARE THAT THEY NEED. WE ALSO, OF COURSE, PARTNER ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS, INCLUDING THIS ONE WITH WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND CASE MANAGEMENT, AGAIN, TO REALLY TRY AND MITIGATE ALL OF THE BARRIERS TO THEM RESOLVING THEIR HOMELESSNESS ALONG THE WAY. THIS SUPPORTIVE LIVING COMPLEX WILL QUADRUPLE OUR CURRENT CAPACITY FOR FAMILIES. WE ALSO HAVE AN ON-SITE CHILDCARE FACILITY THAT'S IN THIS SUPPORTIVE LIVING BUILDING AS WELL. AND WE'RE PARTNERING WITH VOGEL FOR THE CHILDCARE BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, THEY'RE GREAT EXPERTS IN PROVIDING CHILD CARE FOR CHILDREN EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. SO THEY'LL BE ON OUR SITE AND OPERATING THIS CHILDCARE FACILITY FOR NON-SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN. THEN WE'LL CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH DISD FOR THOSE CHILDREN THAT DO THAT ARE IN SCHOOL. AND WE HAVE HOMEWORK LABS AND COMPUTER LABS ACROSS THE CAMPUS SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SPACE TO STUDY AND BE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR ACADEMICS. IN THIS BUILDING, WE HAVE 450 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO WILL ACHIEVE THEIR HOUSING EACH YEAR. AND AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE 20 APARTMENT STYLE UNITS FOR FAMILY IN ADDITION OR INCLUDED IN THAT 295 BED COUNT THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COMPLEX. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE OUR WELLNESS CENTER. SO IN THIS WELLNESS CENTER IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR CAFETERIA. SO THERE'S A LARGE CAFETERIA THERE FOR ANYONE ON THE CAMPUS TO RECEIVE THEIR MEALS. WE ALSO HAVE A CULINARY TRAINING KITCHEN IN THIS BUILDING SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE ON-SITE JOB TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. THAT'S ONE OF THEM. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THE CAFETERIA AND CULINARY TRAINING KITCHEN, WE HAVE OUR WAREHOUSE, AND THE WAREHOUSE PROVIDES THE FOOD FOR THE CHOICE FOOD PANTRY IN THE KITCHEN, BUT IS ALSO A HUB FOR OUR FOOD PANTRIES THROUGHOUT THE REGION. SO THE SALVATION ARMY OPERATES 12 FOOD PANTRIES THROUGHOUT OUR SIX COUNTY SERVICE AREA. AND SO THIS WILL SERVE AS A HUB. ANOTHER ON SITE JOB TRAINING OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WILL HAVE ON CAMPUS IS IN THAT WAREHOUSE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CLIENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED TO LEARN LOGISTICS AND OPERATIONS TRAINING TO GET FORKLIFT CERTIFIED. BECAUSE WE WANT TO AGAIN, PROVIDE THOSE TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM SO THAT WHEN THEY EXIT TO PERMANENT HOUSING, THEY HAVE A CHANCE AT A CAREER AND CAN REALLY STABILIZE THEIR INCOME. WE ALSO HAVE IN THIS ROOM A WEIGHT ROOM, CARDIO ROOM. WE HAVE A MULTI-PURPOSE GYM THAT CAN BE USED FOR BASKETBALL AND PICKLEBALL. WE ALL KNOW HOW POPULAR PICKLEBALL IS THESE DAYS. BUT IMPORTANTLY, IT'S ALSO A SPACE FOR US TO USE FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER. SO THE SALVATION ARMY PROVIDES INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER AGAIN THROUGHOUT THE REGION, INCLUDING IN DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO EXPAND CAPACITY FOR THAT ON THIS CAMPUS. IN ADDITION, AS I REFERENCED EARLIER ABOUT THE INTENTIONAL DESIGN OF THE CAMPUS AND BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO SEEK SHELTER. I'M SURE YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE. ONE OF THOSE IS PETS. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEIR PETS. AND SO INCLUDED IN THE WELLNESS CENTER IS A DOG KENNEL. SO WE HAVE TEN DOG KENNELS AND A DOG PARK FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME SEEK SHELTER AND HAVE PETS. AND WE WILL PARTNER WITH THE SPCA THERE TO PROVIDE MEDICAL SERVICES FOR THE PETS. AND ALSO WE WILL LEVERAGE VOLUNTEERS TO OPERATE THE DOG KENNEL AND CARE FOR OUR FURRY FRIENDS. SO THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE CHAPEL IS AT THE HEART OF OUR CAMPUS, AND IT'S VERY INTENTIONAL IN THE DESIGN TO BE AT THE CENTER OF THE CAMPUS AND VISIBLE FROM EVERY BUILDING ON THE CAMPUS. WE REALLY WANT THE CAMPUS TO NOT FEEL LIKE AN INSTITUTION. SO IF YOU LIKELY HAVE SEEN THROUGH THE RENDERINGS THAT I'VE SHARED THAT IT'S REALLY GREEN. THERE'S PLANTS. WE WANT IT TO FEEL PARK LIKE, AND WE WANT THERE TO BE THIS HOPE INSTILLED THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE THAT HOPE AS THEY RECOVER. THE SALVATION ARMY IS A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION, BUT I'LL NOTE THAT IT'S NOT REQUIRED FOR ANYONE TO PARTAKE IN ANY RELIGIOUS SERVICES IN [00:15:02] ORDER TO RECEIVE THE SOCIAL SERVICES OR SHELTER THAT WE PROVIDE. IT'S SIMPLY THERE FOR THEM IF THEY'D LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND WE FIND A LOT OF PEOPLE DO LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, AND IT HELPS THEM, AGAIN WITH THAT SENSE OF HOPE AND FEELING THAT THEY BELONG AND ESTABLISH A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. IN THIS CHAPEL, WE'LL HAVE A 300 SEAT CAPACITY. WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WORSHIP, BIBLE STUDY AND OTHER GATHERINGS THERE. SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE AGAIN THE CAMPUS MAP. EXCUSE ME. SO YOU'LL SEE HERE OUR CAPACITY. SO THIS COMPARES OUR CAPACITY FROM WHAT WE SERVED TODAY AT CARR P. COLLINS SOCIAL SERVICE CENTER TO WHAT WE'LL SERVE ON THE CAMPUS. SO AS I SHARE, WE'RE EXPANDING CAPACITY ON THE CAMPUS. FROM WHAT CARPY COLLINS SERVES TODAY TO 600 BEDS WHEN WE'RE AT FULL CAPACITY DURING KIND OF NORMAL WEATHER. AND THEN WE CAN ADD AN ADDITIONAL 300 BEDS DURING TIMES OF INCLEMENT WEATHER SO THAT WE CAN GROW AS NECESSARY. WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE NEW SERVICES THAT I MENTIONED THAT ARE REALLY INTENTIONALLY ON THE CAMPUS TO MITIGATE THOSE BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE'S SUCCESS. WE BUILT THAT ACTUALLY OFF OF OUR VETERANS PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AT CARR P. COLLINS. WE SEE THAT THE SUCCESS RATES OF OUR VETS ARE HIGHER BECAUSE THEY CAN GO ONE PLACE, THE VA FOR ALL OF THEIR SERVICES. SO WE WANT TO MODEL THAT ON THE CAMPUS. SO THAT'S WHY THOSE CO-LOCATED SERVICES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S WHY THOSE PARTNERSHIPS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL, BECAUSE WE WANT OUR CLIENTS TO HAVE THE VERY BEST THAT THEY CAN HAVE. AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE NOT DONE THIS ALONE. WE HAVE HAD AMAZING BOARD MEMBERS, VOLUNTEERS, OUR CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIRS THAT HAVE REALLY HELPED US RAISE THE FUNDS NECESSARY TO BUILD THIS CAMPUS. AND SO OUR NEXT TASK IS TO, OF COURSE, OPEN THE CAMPUS. AND AS I REFERENCED AT THE BEGINNING, THE CAMPUS WILL OPEN SEPTEMBER 2027. SO WE'RE WELL UNDERWAY WITH CONSTRUCTION SO FAR, WE'RE ON TIME AND ON BUDGET. AND WE'RE EXCITED TO OFFER THIS TO THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN HELP EVEN MORE PEOPLE THAN WE DO NOW. AND WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU, MISS CAVALIER. AND THANK YOU, MAJOR WEBB. REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION AND THE PROJECT IS JUST ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO COMMITTEE MEMBERS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCILMAN MORENO. THANK YOU CHAIR THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND THANKS FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR OUR EXISTING CAMPUS ON HARRY HINES. I JUST WANT TO FIRST START WITH THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF WHAT YOU SAID IN REFERENCE TO WHY CLIENTS DON'T SEEK SHELTER. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT'S A CHALLENGE THAT A LOT OF OUR DIFFERENT PROVIDERS SEE EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND THE CHALLENGE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS FACED WITH, AND WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT PROVIDERS OUT THERE AND IT'S TRYING TO GET THOSE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP THROUGH THOSE DOORS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. MAYBE WE'LL START THERE AND EXPANDING A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE RESEARCH THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO ON ENTICING AND MAKING IT A SAFE PLACE, A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT SO THAT PEOPLE WILL CHOOSE SHELTER AND THEN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. WELL, I'M HAPPY TO DIVE IN AND ANSWER THAT. SO IN ADDITION TO TALKING TO CLIENTS, OF COURSE, THE SALVATION ARMY HAS OPERATED SHELTERS FOR, YOU KNOW, HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, MORE THAN 137 YEARS. SO WE PULLED ON OUR OWN EXPERTISE. BUT THEN THE EMPLOYEES ON OUR TEAM WHO WERE DESIGNING THE CAMPUS ALSO VISITED OTHER SHELTERS REALLY THROUGHOUT THE US. SO THEY, YOU KNOW, VISITED TO SEE WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK, WHAT WERE THEY SEEING? AND THAT HELPED INFORM THE DESIGN AS WELL. THEN IN ADDITION TO OUR OWN EXPERTISE, WE LEARNED FROM OUR OWN EXPERIENCES. SO WE CAN IMAGINE THAT COVID REALLY IMPACTED THE WAY THAT WE ALL SERVE AND HOW SHELTERS WORK. AND SO THAT INFORMS SOME OF THIS AS WELL. WE HAD THE DESIGN ALREADY DONE, RIGHT? THE CONCEPT FOR THE CAMPUS WHEN COVID HIT, BUT WE RETESTED IT TO ENSURE THAT WE COULD MAKE THINGS FLEXIBLE THAT IF WE NEEDED TO HAVE ISOLATION ROOMS YOU KNOW, THAT IF PEOPLE NEEDED TO BE SAFE IN SOME SORT OF OTHER EVENT THAT WE COULD DO THAT. SO THAT ALSO INFORMED THE DESIGN. AND THEN TALKING TO OTHER PARTNERS, RIGHT. SO TALKING TO OTHER PROVIDERS HERE IN DALLAS COUNTY. WORKING WITH THEM, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY'RE SEEING LEARNING FROM THAT AND THEN HELPING THAT TO INFORM OUR DESIGN AS WELL AS JUST OUR SERVICES AND THE WAY THAT WE OPERATE AND THEN STAYING ABREAST OF BEST PRACTICES. I THINK THIS IS A MODEL WE'RE STARTING TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF A CAMPUS TYPE ENVIRONMENT. SO MAYBE HOW MANY ACRES IS THE PROPERTY AND IS THERE ROOM FOR EXPANSION THERE? IT'S 21 ACRES. AND YES, TECHNICALLY THERE IS ROOM ON THE PROPERTY FOR EXPANSION. OKAY. AND THEN I KNOW YOU'RE TARGETING SEPTEMBER 2027. IS THERE ANYTHING THE CITY CAN DO? I'M NOT SURE HOW PERMITTING IS GOING AND YOUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO OPEN ON TIME. [00:20:09] IS THERE ANY CHALLENGES THERE THAT WE COULD BE OF ASSISTANCE WITH? THANK YOU FOR ASKING. NO, I THINK SO FAR WE'RE WE'RE FINE WITH THOSE THINGS, BUT WE CERTAINLY WILL REACH OUT IF WE DO RUN INTO ANY CHALLENGES. OUR TEAM HAS BEEN REALLY PROACTIVE AND COMMUNICATIVE WITH THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE PERMITS THAT WE NEED. AND THEY'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT OUR CEO. SO I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT WE'LL LET YOU KNOW. ONE THING I DID WANT TO KNOW RELATED TO THE EXPANSION IS THAT WE ARE LIMITED TO THE NUMBER OF BEDS CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF OUR ZONING. SO IF THERE WERE A CASE IN WHICH WE WOULD EXPAND WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR PERMISSION TO DO THAT. OKAY. ON PAGE TWO, YOU REFERENCED A NUMBER OF 3,513 HOMELESS RESIDENTS IN 2026. HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THAT NUMBER AND WHAT IS YOUR PARTNERSHIP WITH HOUSING FORWARD? I PULLED THAT NUMBER FROM THE POINT IN TIME COUNT REPORT THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY RELEASED. AND WE ARE ONE OF THE PROVIDERS THAT'S PART OF THE GOOD NEIGHBORS COALITION AND PARTNER WITH HOUSING FORWARD. IT'S A RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO GROW. DO YOU GUYS PARTICIPATE IN HMIS? WE DO. YES. OKAY. AND THEN YOUR PARTNERS, INCLUDING PARKLAND WHICH IS GREAT. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I SEE ON YOUR CURRENT CAMPUS AND FORESEE HERE IS THE DISCHARGE OF PATIENTS. WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT THOSE PATIENTS SOMETIMES NEED CONTINUOUS CARE IN RECOVERY. WILL THERE BE ANY BEDS AVAILABLE FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BEING DISCHARGED FROM THE COUNTY HOSPITALS? YES, THAT'S PART OF THAT RECUPERATIVE CARE PROGRAM THAT I MENTIONED. SO WE HAVE THOSE BEDS CURRENTLY AT CARR P. COLLINS, AND WE WILL EXPAND THOSE ON THE NEW CAMPUS. OKAY, AND THEN FOR INDIVIDUALS TO GET SERVICE, IS IT A WALK UP BASIS, A REFERRAL BASIS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. OKAY. WE HAVE, WE'RE NO BARRIER SHELTER. SO IF SOMEONE NEEDS ASSISTANCE, WE WILL ACCEPT THEM AS LONG AS WE HAVE A BED. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A BED, THEN WE WILL WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS OF COURSE, TO TRY AND FIND THEM ONE OKAY. AND THEN YOU ALSO REFERENCED MASS SHELTERING. CAN YOU GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THAT? AND DOES THAT, IS THAT BASICALLY CONGREGATED SHELTER SPACE? YES, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY THAT. SO ALL OF OUR QUARTERS ON THE CAMPUS ARE SEMI-PRIVATE. SO THE MOST THAT WOULD BE IN A ROOM OUTSIDE OF INCLEMENT WEATHER WOULD BE FOR. OKAY. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS ROUND. AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. THANK YOU. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPENING OF THE NEW LOCATION. LAST QUESTION ACTUALLY, SORRY. THE CAMPUS Y'ALL ARE CURRENTLY ON, HARRY HINES, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THAT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2027? WE'VE SOLD IT. OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE REINVESTING THOSE FUNDS IN THIS CAMPUS. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS GOING TO BE A MEDICAL USE, CORRECT? THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT WILL EXPAND A LITTLE BIT. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH IT. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. I BELIEVE MAYOR PRO TEM ASKED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, BUT I DO HAVE 1 OR 2 MORE. SO WHEN PEOPLE COME TO YOUR SERVICES, THEY JUST, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME THROUGH ANYONE ELSE BUT YOU. CORRECT. AND DO YOU TAKE THEM FROM ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CITY? ARE YOU JUST DALLAS FOCUSED OR. NO, SO WE WILL TAKE THEM FROM ANYWHERE. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE DALLAS OR NOT. IT MAYBE DIFFERS DEPENDING UPON THE EXACT PROGRAM THAT THEY NEED MAY NEED TO GO TO. BECAUSE OF SOME OF OUR FUNDING REQUIREMENTS, BUT IN THE CASE THAT IF SOMEONE WERE NEEDING SHELTER WE WOULD PUT THEM IN A DIFFERENT PROGRAM. OR WE MAY REFER TO OURSELVES. SO WE HAVE THREE OTHER SHELTERS THROUGHOUT NORTH TEXAS. SO IF NECESSARY, WE COULD REFER TO ONE OF THOSE. SO DO YOU HAVE A COUNT THAT IS DALLAS SPECIFIC AND ACCOUNT THAT TELLS US HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'RE SERVING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF DALLAS? I AM HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. I CAN GET THAT. I DON'T HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. THANK YOU. SURE, OF COURSE. THAT'S IT FOR ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. THANK YOU. THIS IS VERY EXCITING TO SEE HOW BIG AND BROAD THESE SERVICES ARE. SO I COMMEND YOU. I KNOW PROJECTS LIKE THIS AREN'T EASY TO GET OFF THE GROUND AND TO MANAGE. SO I WAS DRAWN TO PAGE EIGHT WHERE YOU REFERENCED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINICS. SO AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A TON OF DETAIL, BUT WE KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR MOST CHRONIC MEMBERS OF OUR [00:25:03] UNSHELTERED POPULATION. SO WHO IS THE RELATIONSHIP WITH AND HOW IS THAT GOING TO WORK? IT'S WITH METRO CARE. AND SO WE PARTNER WITH THEM NOW AGAIN AT CARR P. COLLINS, AND SO WE'LL MOVE THAT PARTNERSHIP TO THE CAMPUS AND EXPAND IT. OKAY. AND THEN MAYBE THERE'S A PRESENTATION WE HAVE LATER ON OUR AGENDA WITH HOUSING FORWARD THAT TALKS ABOUT EXITS LIKE FROM PARKLAND. ARE YOU SINCE YOU'RE BOTH PART OF THAT COALITION? I MEAN, IS THIS SOMETHING. I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXITS THAT JUST GO TO THE STREET OUT OF THE HOSPITAL. AND SO IS THERE SOMETHING TIGHTER WITH REGARD TO PARKLAND AND THE SALVATION ARMY? YES. SO WE HAVE A FORMAL PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND THEY REFER TO US. SO AS THEY HAVE CLIENTS WHO ARE HOMELESS WHO ARE EXITING THE HOSPITAL, THEY CAN REFER THEM TO US AND WE HAVE DEDICATED BEDS FOR THAT. OKAY. I MEAN, I STILL SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE CLEARLY. AND SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING IN THAT AREA WOULD BE IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO TIGHTEN UP. AND THEN ALSO I SEE THAT YOU'VE GOT A CAFETERIA FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE ON THE OTHER SIDE AT HARBOR HOUSE AND ALL THAT IS THERE. TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT THE FEEDING AND IF OUR FAITH BASED COMMUNITY AND OTHERS WHO LIKE TO FEED ON THE STREET, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLUG THEM INTO YOU ALL AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO DIRECT THAT POSITIVE ENERGY IN A WAY THAT CAN HAVE MORE VALUE. YES, WE WOULD LOVE THAT. WE ALWAYS NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US FEED. WE USE VOLUNTEERS NOW AND THAT WE'RE ALWAYS INTERESTED IN PARTNERSHIPS. OKAY, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN CADENA. SO THE NEW SALVATION ARMY IS GOING TO BE IN DISTRICT SIX. AND I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND YOU, REALLY, FOR YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS AND RETHINKING THE NEW CAMPUS WITH YOUR CLIENTS. I WAS INVOLVED WHEN Y'ALL HAD THE ZONING CASE, AND Y'ALL ALSO WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO HAVE A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT. AND I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, I SAW IN WHAT Y'ALL PUT INTO ACTION YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU LEARNED FROM YOUR CURRENT CAMPUS, WHICH I'VE TOURED SEVERAL TIMES INTO WHAT THE NEW CAMPUS IS GOING TO BE LIKE. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GOING TO THE GROUNDBREAKING. I WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE DIFFERENT CEREMONIES AND, YOU KNOW, EVENTS THAT Y'ALL HAVE HAD AS WE BUILD UP TO THE OFFICIAL OPENING. BUT I'M JUST SO THANKFUL THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO BE IN DISTRICT SIX AND LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH Y'ALL. THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR SUPPORT. OKAY. WELL, I JUST HAVE JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WELL, FIRST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS TRULY SPECTACULAR. AND I REMEMBER THE ZONING CASE SO WELL. AND TO SEE IT COME TO LIFE IS REALLY GRATIFYING FOR US. AND WHAT YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY IS JUST REALLY SO IMPORTANT. SOMETIMES WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE SHELTERS THAT THE CITY DOESN'T FUND, BUT YET YOU'RE TAKING ON A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMUNITY FOR US. SO THANK YOU. ON SLIDE SIX, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DALLAS CAMPUS VERSUS THE COMMUNITY CENTERS. I WONDER IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT HOW THAT FLOW WORKS AND HOW THEY WORK TOGETHER AND EXACTLY MAYBE WHAT THE COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE DOING? YES, SO AS I SAID, THE COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE REALLY OUR PREVENTION ARM. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS CHART IS TRYING TO SHOW. BUT WE'RE ALL ONE SALVATION ARMY, SO WE OPERATE TOGETHER UNDER AN UMBRELLA THAT WE CALL AN AREA COMMAND. AND SO THE IDEA IS THAT AS CLIENTS EXIT FROM THE CAMPUS THAT WHERE THEIR PERMANENT HOUSING IS, THAT WE CAN CONNECT THEM. AND DO YOU KNOW, A REFERRAL TO OURSELVES AND TO THAT COMMUNITY CENTER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT IF THEY NEED ANY SORT OF ONGOING SUPPORT COMMUNITY ONGOING SERVICES THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN FIND THAT AT THAT CORE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT KIND OF WORKING HERE THROUGH THESE ARROWS. SO WE HAVE GARLAND OAK CLIFF, IRVING, AND PLEASANT GROVE WITHIN DALLAS COUNTY. SO WE PROVIDE SOCIAL SERVICES AT THOSE CORE COMMUNITY CENTERS, RELIGIOUS SERVICES, AS I MENTIONED, YOUTH PROGRAMS THAT SOME OF THEM. AND THEN THE RECOVERY PIECE IS AT THE CAMPUS. AND SO THAT'S FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS TO RECEIVE THOSE SERVICES. OKAY, GREAT. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE ROOM FOR EXPANSION AND THAT THE ZONING WAS LIMITING THE NUMBER OF BEDS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE. AND I DEFINITELY REMEMBER THAT WHOLE FIGHT. I WILL SAY THAT OVER TIME, THE COUNCIL CHANGES AND THERE MIGHT BE A SURPRISING APPETITE TO CHANGE THAT IF YOU WANTED TO BRING IT FORWARD. AND SO I WOULD IMAGINE HAVING JUST COMPLETED A GIANT CAPITAL CAMPAIGN, YOU'RE LIKE, STOP. BUT ALSO WHILE THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR THAT, IT MIGHT BE IF YOU THINK THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE GOING TO WANT TO PURSUE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET THE ZONING SOONER EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T READY TO DO THE EXPANSION. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE HAD BEEN VERY SIGNIFICANT PUSHBACK, BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT TIME. AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS SINCE, INCLUDING COVID, AND ALSO SEEING THE CHALLENGES AND CHANGES IN THE HOMELESS LANDSCAPE IN [00:30:10] DALLAS SPECIFICALLY. SO MOVING ON, CAN I ASK YOU ON WHAT IS THE CHANGE AND WHAT WILL THE EXPECTED STAFFING LEVEL BE AT YOUR CAMPUS? SO INTERESTINGLY, WHEN WE ARE AT FULL CAPACITY, OUR STAFF WILL GROW BY, I THINK 45 EMPLOYEES. I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT THE SALVATION ARMY IS A PRETTY LEAN ORGANIZATION. WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT MOST OF OUR DOLLARS GO DIRECTLY TO THE MISSION. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THOSE STAFFING PLANS AND THE RATIOS, YOU KNOW, OF NUMBER OF CLIENTS, TO CASE AIDES, TO CASE MANAGERS. WE DO HAVE SOME PLANS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CLINICAL EXPERTS THAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER LEVEL CLINICAL SERVICES ON THE CAMPUS. AND SO WHAT WOULD THAT BRING YOUR STAFFING LEVEL TO? LET ME LOOK AT MY NOTES TO JUST TELL YOU THE EXACT NUMBER HERE. AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING THAT UP TO ADD 125 EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS IS HUGE. ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY SHELTERS ARE AT A 90 PLUS, 95% CAPACITY ON A VERY REGULAR BASIS. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE AS WELL. AND THAT IS REALLY GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF IN THE SYSTEM. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT PART. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THE EXACT NUMBER. AND THEN ALSO ARE YOU ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE OPERATING BUDGET WOULD BE FOR THAT CAMPUS? FOR THE NEW CAMPUS? YES. SHE'S ASKING IF WE'LL SHARE THE BUDGET. YES WE WILL. I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THAT'S ALSO GREAT. I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER YOU HAD A SECOND ROUND. THANK YOU, CHAIR. TEMPORARY INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTERING. THAT'S A BIG NEED IN THE CITY. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR STEPPING UP. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS WITH OUR CITY CODE ON INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTERS. HAVE YOU ALL BEEN ADVISED ON THOSE LIMITATIONS AND ENSURING THAT YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO SERVE? YES, WE HAVE. AS I MENTIONED, WE DO INCLEMENT WEATHER SHELTER RIGHT NOW AT CARR P. COLLINS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT THE REGION. SO WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE CODES AND PERMITS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED. AND HAVE YOU ALL EXPLORED ANY PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE CITY ON INCLEMENT WEATHER? NOT FORMALLY. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO DO. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN THIS QUESTION CAN BE ADDRESSED OFFLINE JUST ON VOGEL. I KNOW THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A CAMPUS, BUT IF WE CAN JUST FOLLOW UP ON THAT. OKAY. AFTER THIS. THANK YOU. WE ACTUALLY ARE OVERDUE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION BY VOGEL. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MULTIPLE CAMPUSES AT THIS POINT. SO I KNOW THEY OPENED AT REDBIRD, THEIR ORIGINAL CAMPUS, THEY HAVE ONE UP IN DISTRICT 12 AT FAMILY GATEWAY. I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST 1 OR 2 OTHERS. SO THERE, WE'LL GET THAT SCHEDULED. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR, I BELIEVE YOU HAD A SECOND. YES. ON PAGE SIX WHERE IT SHOWS THAT YOU HAVE THESE FOUR LOCATIONS IN VULNERABLE NEIGHBORHOODS GARLAND, OAK CLIFF, IRVING, AND PLEASANT GROVE. CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME HOW YOU INTERACT IN THOSE LOCATIONS, ESPECIALLY IN PLEASANT GROVE AND OAK CLIFF? IT DEPENDS ON THE SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. BUT IN GENERALLY WE'RE FOCUSED, AS I MENTIONED, ON SERVING PEOPLE EXPERIENCING POVERTY THERE. SO IN PLEASANT GROVE, WE HAVE A REALLY ACTIVE CHOICE FOOD PANTRY THERE. THERE'S AN ACTIVE SOCCER PROGRAM FOR YOUTH THERE. WE ALSO DO MUSIC CLASSES. INTERESTINGLY, THERE'S SEWING CLASSES THERE THAT ARE VERY POPULAR. IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR US TO GET THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED AND IN TO OUR FACILITY. SO THERE'S A MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT THAT THEY DO. AND THEN IN OAK CLIFF ALSO VERY ACTIVE, WE HAVE A LOT THAT WE DO WITH SENIOR CITIZENS THERE. THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THE GREATEST NEED AND THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO US. WE DO HAVE AN ACTIVE FOOD PANTRY THERE AS WELL, AND IT OPERATES A LOT LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE WE HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND YOU KNOW, KIND OF HANG OUT WITH EACH OTHER AND HAVE JUST FUN. CAN YOU TELL ME IN BOTH OF THOSE LOCATIONS, WHERE EXACTLY ARE YOUR FACILITIES LOCATED? YES, SO OAK CLIFF IS ACTUALLY IN IT'S ON JEFFERSON. AND THEN PLEASANT GROVE IS ON. ELAM. ELAM. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NO. NO QUESTIONS. JUST COMMENTS. AGAIN, MAYOR PRO TEM MORENO ADDRESSED IT, BUT AGAIN, THE THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE LAYOUT AND THE DESIGN, AGAIN ADDRESSING MANY OF THE BARRIERS TO PEOPLE NOT ACCEPTING SERVICES, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE ON THE BRINK OF [00:35:10] HOMELESSNESS. AND THAT'S SUCH A BIG JUMP FROM MY OWN PERSONAL TO THIS. IN FACT, JUST LAST NIGHT AND AGAIN. ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER CEDILLO, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM. JUST TO, JUST QUICK LAST NIGHT MY NEIGHBOR RAN ACROSS, CAME ACROSS A YOUNG LADY WHO WAS HAD HER HEAD DOWN AT THE STEERING WHEEL AND WAS JUST AT HER WITS END, AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, SO THEY CALLED ME. THEY WERE OUTSIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE WENT AND TALKED TO HER AND REALLY TRIED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD ADDRESS HER SERVICES, WHAT HER NEEDS, AND REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. SHE DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE ON DRUGS. SHE WAS IN HER MERCEDES. SHE WAS JUST AT HER WITS END. LOOKED TO BE IN HER LATE 20S. JUST NOTHING LEFT. SO WHAT CAN WE DO? SO AGAIN, WHEN I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT UNDERSTANDING THE BARRIERS FOR SOMEONE LIKE THIS, HOW DO WE FIND SERVICES THAT KEEP HER SAFE, THAT KEEP HER MOTIVATED AND ALL OF THESE THINGS AND KEEP HER, IN HER YOU KNOW, SERVE HER WITH, WITH INTEGRITY AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT SHE'S FEELS SLIPPING AWAY. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE EXPERIENCING LAST NIGHT. AND YOUR TEAM, CITY STAFF ON THIS HOLIDAY, ANSWERED THE PHONE AND WERE ABLE TO TRY TO COME THROUGH AND FIGURE OUT SOME SITUATIONS FOR HER. WE WERE EVENTUALLY ABLE TO SEND HER TO A PLACE TO GET SOME HELP THERE. BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS YOUNG LADY WHO IS ABOUT TO IN CRISIS MODE RIGHT NOW, AND HOW DO WE SERVE HER WITH DIGNITY? AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS THROUGH YOUR CAMPUS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD TO SEND HER TO AND ALMOST DRIVE HER TO IF I COULD HAVE, BUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE THOUGHTFULNESS IN THIS. AND CONSIDERING THOSE THINGS, BOTH THE NEEDS OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HOMELESS, CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, BUT ALSO THOSE WHO OWN THE VERGE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT, AND THEN PUBLICLY THANK CITY STAFF FOR ANSWERING THE PHONE AND COMING THROUGH IN THAT TIME, ESPECIALLY ON A HOLIDAY. SO THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. SO I'M JUST GOING TO WRAP IT UP BY GOING BACK TO SLIDE 12. THIS IS YOUR CHAPEL. I'M GLAD THAT YOU INCLUDED THAT. FOR A LONG TIME WE'VE SEEN WELL, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, WE'VE SEEN FOLKS WANT TO MINIMIZE THE ASPECT OF FAITH IN HOMELESS RECOVERY. AND I'LL JUST SAY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT IT. AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE IT THERE. I THINK PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY SURPRISED TO FIND OUT I WAS ON THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR SALVATION ARMY IN PLANO. AND THEY'RE SURPRISED BECAUSE I'M JEWISH. BUT THE FACT IS THAT YOU DO REALLY GOOD WORK AND MEANINGFUL WORK TO GET PEOPLE TO RETURN TO INDEPENDENCE. AND MANY PEOPLE DO TURN TO FAITH IN TOUGH TIMES. AND SO I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH HUD IS A REAL SHIFT TO SAY WE SHOULD NOT BE EXCLUDING PROGRAMS THAT ARE FAITH BASED. AND I HOPE THAT MEANS THAT YOU WILL BE MORE ENGAGED IN APPLYING FOR FUNDING THAT IS COMING AS A PASS THROUGH ON THE FEDERAL SIDE. AND AGAIN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THE CAMPUS MORE ROBUST, EVEN AS A LONGER TERM PLAN, THERE MAY BE A GOOD OPENING RIGHT NOW, SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN BOTH FOR BEING HERE. IT REALLY WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION. WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST. HOPE TO BE AT YOUR RIBBON CUTTING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. THANK YOU CHRISTINA. GREAT JOB. WE WOULD VERY MUCH BE INTERESTED IN SEEKING FUNDING TO HELP WITH THE EXPANSION OF SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY. AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'RE NOT DIRECTLY RECEIVING FUNDING AT THIS POINT, BUT CERTAINLY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT BECAUSE IT'LL COST MORE TO SERVE MORE. WELL, THANK YOU. I THINK THERE'S A CHANGING APPETITE, AT LEAST ON THE FEDERAL PASS THROUGH MONEY. AND WHEN THERE'S AN OPENNESS TO BE INCLUSIVE EVEN IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PRIORITIES AND THAT'S ALL GOOD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ALONG. AND I SEE AARON UP THERE, IF Y'ALL WANT TO COME ON DOWN. THIS PRESENTATION IS A FOLLOW UP FROM THE QUESTIONS WE WERE POSING ABOUT OCCUPANCY FOR THE DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND FOR THE PFC BOARD. AND INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING IT AS A MEMO, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS A BRIEFING. AND I'M HOPING, AARON, YOU CAN JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH AND TALK THROUGH WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS MEMO, [00:40:06] MAYBE SORT OF THE STORY BEHIND ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT HAVE LOWER OCCUPANCY, ARE NOT QUITE ONLINE YET. SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR TAX ABATEMENT IS GETTING FOR US. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU CHAIR MENDELSOHN. WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE. SO THIS MEMO, ERIN EAQUINTO, GENERAL MANAGER OF THE DALLAS PFC AND THE HFC. SO THIS MEMO CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS, I THINK A MONTH OR TWO AGO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE IN THE PORTFOLIO? AND SO WE GATHERED ALL OF THE REALLY JUST STRAIGHT UP OCCUPANCY PERCENTAGES AT EACH OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN OPERATION AND LEASING UP. AND WE PUT THAT IN A SIMPLE FORMAT FOR EACH, THE HFC AND THE PFC. THERE ARE VARYING LEVELS OF OCCUPANCY, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF THE ONES ON THE LOWER OCCUPANCY THRESHOLDS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD CALL THEM LOWER OCCUPANCY IF IT'S LESS THAN 80%. FOR THE MOST PART, THOSE ARE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE JUST OPENED AND ARE STILL IN THEIR KIND OF PRELIMINARY LEASE UP PHASE. AND SO IN GENERAL, IT TAKES 12 TO 24 MONTHS ONCE THE PROPERTY IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR LEASING TO GET UP TO THAT 90% LEVEL AND STAY THERE AS WHAT WE CALL A STABILIZED PROPERTY. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE THEM. WHO HAS QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER BLAIR. HOW OFTEN DOES YOUR ORGANIZATION GO BACK THROUGH THE FACILITIES THAT HAVE BEEN OPENED AND VERIFIED THAT THEY ARE STILL OPERATING WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF YOUR, OF THE PFC? THIS IS THE PFC. NOW THIS IS HFC. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO WE MONITOR THESE PROPERTIES AS NEEDED. OBVIOUSLY, WE WE STAY IN CONTACT WITH EACH OF THE PROPERTY MANAGERS. NOW, PRIMARILY WE ARE NOT THE OPERATORS. SO THE HFC AND PFC, WE DON'T HAVE STAFF ON SITE AT EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES. SO THAT IS WHY WE PARTNER WITH ALL THE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS AND THE THIRD PARTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES. BUT WE DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OPERATING CORRECTLY. NOW THERE'S ALSO MONITORING FROM THE STATE. IF IT'S A TECH PROPERTY, IT GETS AUDITED EVERY YEAR. AND THOSE RENTS AND THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE TENANTS ARE AFFIRMED, OR ELSE THEY'LL HAVE TO OWE BACK MONEY TO THE STATE. WITH THE PFC, NOW THAT'S REQUIRED EVERY YEAR AS WELL FROM THE STATE. BUT WE ARE IN A PERIOD OF STAFFING UP RIGHT NOW. AND SO WE ARE JUST NOW ESTABLISHING OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT PLATFORM. AND SO WE'LL HAVE A MUCH MORE ROBUST REPORTS GOING FORWARD. AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO PARTNER AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE IN A MUCH MORE DETAILED BASIS AS WE SET UP THIS PLATFORM. AND IF I MAY. THOR ERICKSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. THANKS, AARON. GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS. PART OF THE RECENT PROGRAM CHANGES THAT COUNCIL JUST APPROVED WITH THE PFC AND HFC. SETS THE LONG TERM COMPLIANCE TO BE SOMETHING THAT HOUSING COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT WILL PERFORM. AND SO AS WE'RE WORKING IN OUR STAND UP PERIOD RIGHT NOW, WE WILL BRING THOSE INTO OUR PORTFOLIO THE SAME WAY WE WOULD DO WITH OTHER, SAY, FEDERALLY FUNDED HOUSING PROGRAMS, WHERE WE'LL DO A YEARLY RISK ASSESSMENT. WE'LL DO OUR ON SITE INSPECTIONS. WE'LL ASK FOR PAPERWORK FOR LEASE UP. WE'LL DO INSPECTIONS OF RANDOMIZED UNITS AS PART OF OUR LONG TERM COMPLIANCE TO ENSURE THAT THE UNITS ARE IN GOOD STANDING CONDITION. THE LEASE PAPERWORK IS IN GOOD STANDING CONDITION AND THE UNITS ARE BEING RENTED TO THE QUALIFIED APPLICANTS. AND SO WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO OUR PORTFOLIO AND START TO OPERATIONALIZE THAT IN THIS COMING YEAR. SO WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN? WHEN YOU START THAT PROCESS? WE'RE IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF DEVELOPING OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AROUND THAT, AS WELL AS THE CORPORATIONS AND DEVELOPING THEIR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON TO DATE, AND WE SHOULD HAVE STOOD UP BY END OF CALENDAR YEAR. SO WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, WILL IT COME BEFORE COUNCIL TO, SO COUNCIL CAN IDENTIFY WITH THE POLICIES AND PROCESSES WILL BE, AND THAT WE CAN ALSO MONITOR THAT THOSE POLICIES AND PROCESSES ARE BEING FOLLOWED? WHAT WE'VE TRADITIONALLY DONE IS WE OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOLLOW ALL OF THE STANDARD GUIDANCE USUALLY SET BY US, BY HUD. AND SO WE'LL FOLLOW THOSE SAME PROCEDURES IN TERMS OF HOW WE MONITOR PROJECTS. AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE ARE PRESENTING OUR INFORMATION TO THIS BODY AT COMMITTEE LEVEL ON A REGULAR BASIS. [00:45:01] SO WILL YOU ALSO THEN TELL US WHEN A WHEN A LOCATION IS COMING, IS COMING OUT OF THE HFC PROCESS, AND THEN THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN. YES. SO THAT SO THAT THE COUNCIL DISTRICT CAN SEE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO ALSO LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITIES AREN'T BEING PUT IN A STATE OF DISARRAY. YEAH, THANK YOU. ONE OF THE PARTS OF DEVELOPING DALLAS HOME IS LOOKING AT THE EXPIRING DEED, RESTRICTED PROPERTIES AND BEST TYPES OF PARTNERSHIP OR ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES. AND SO THAT'S DIRECTLY PART OF OUR NEW POLICY FRAMEWORK. SO CAN YOU PROVIDE US WITH A LIST OF THOSE THAT WERE PART OF THE HFC THAT HAVE EXPIRED AND NOW ARE ON THEIR OWN, OR ARE, THEY MIGRATED TO A WHAT IS A DHA TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT? THANK YOU, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE HAVE BEEN NONE THAT ARE IN THE HFC THAT HAVE CURRENTLY EXPIRED. HFC IS A RELATIVELY NEWISH ORGANIZATION, BUT THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX PROGRAM, OF WHICH A DEVELOPER MAY HAVE APPLIED FOR TAX CREDIT FUNDING, IS A IS A DIFFERENT PROCESS, BUT RELATED WITH HFC AS THEY'RE A BOND INDUCER. SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO INVEST IN THOSE PROJECTS. SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN SHOW YOU THE LIST THAT THE STATE KEEPS. BUT UNLESS WE HAVE FEDERAL FUNDING IN OR IT COMES THROUGH ONE OF OUR INSTRUMENTALITIES, WE DON'T KEEP TRACK OF THOSE UNITS, THAT'S ALL DONE AT THE STATE LEVEL. SO BUT YOU WILL BE AFTER THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU WILL HAVE A POLICY AND A PROCESS OF THOSE THAT WE DO HAVE UNDERNEATH YOUR, OUR PORT FOR THE CITY'S PORTFOLIO. AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW THEY ARE MONITORED AND MANAGED ON A REGULAR BASIS. YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT SEEMS PRETTY SOUND. I MEAN, YOU'RE AT 90% OR HIGHER ON THE OCCUPANCY ON A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES, BUT ON THE ONES THAT ARE LAGGING A BIT THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY YOU THINK THAT IS. ARE THERE SOME CERTAIN FACTORS AROUND THOSE PROPERTIES? I SEE STERLINGSHIRE, CITIZEN, AND BURNETT LOFTS, IS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU SEE THAT THERE'S ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE THERE? AND ALSO WHEN WE LOOK AT OCCUPANCY, IF SOMEONE'S LAGGING, IS IT ON THE PROCESS SIDE OF SOMEONE NEEDING THE LOWER RATE APARTMENT, OR IS IT ON THE MARKET RATE SIDE? HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS. SO ON THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES, STERLINGSHIRE AND THE CITIZEN, THOSE HAVE SOME, I GUESS, ANCILLARY ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR YEARS. NOW, PARTICULARLY WITH STERLINGSHIRE, THERE'S A ISSUE WITH CRIME SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY. AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF THAT. AND WE'VE BEEN MEETING, I GUESS, QUARTERLY WITH CODE COMPLIANCE AND DPD AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD TO TRY TO SHORE UP THAT PROPERTY AND MAKE SURE THAT THE MANAGEMENT IS DOING THEIR JOB TO, TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND THE SUCCESS OF THAT PROPERTY. NOW, THIS IS ONE OF THE OLDER ONES. SO IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE MONITORING IT AS, I GUESS INTENSELY AS WE CAN. I THINK THE FACT THAT WE ARE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY ON IT HAS ALLOWED US TO GIVE A MUCH GREATER ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND PUT A LOT MORE PRESSURE ON THE ACTUAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ISSUES THAT ARE POPPING UP ARE BEING ADDRESSED. AND I THINK WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE TAIL END OF THAT. I THINK SEVERAL YEARS AGO IT WAS VERY BAD AT STERLINGSHIRE, AND NOW WE'RE DEFINITELY ON THE ON THE UPS THERE. SO I'M PLEASED WITH THAT PROGRESS THERE. NOW ON THE CITIZEN, THAT'S ANOTHER ONGOING ISSUE. I GUESS IT'S IN AN AREA OF THE CITY WHERE THERE IS A VERY HIGH CONCENTRATION OF HOMELESS PEOPLE CAMPING AROUND THE PROPERTY. AND SO WHEN IT WAS FIRST TAKEN ON, IT WAS A RENOVATION AND THAT RENOVATION WAS COMPLETED, BUT THERE ARE ONGOING ISSUES WITH SECURITY SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, WITH PEOPLE BREAKING INTO THE GROUNDS WITH THOSE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT LIVE ON PROPERTY, BUT ARE INTERACTING WITH FOLKS WHO DO LIVE THERE. AND SO IT'S TAKING A LITTLE MORE EFFORT ON THAT ONE TO FIGURE OUT ALL THOSE ISSUES. NOW, AGAIN, PRIMARILY WE'RE, WE'RE A HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY. SO WE DO GREAT AT FINANCING THESE PROPERTIES. SO WHEN WE HAVE TO REACH OUT AND PARTNER WITH, YOU KNOW, CONTINUUM CARE AND OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, IT, IT BECOMES A LITTLE TRICKIER. BUT I THINK THOSE ISSUES ARE LIMITED TO JUST A FEW PROPERTIES. AND WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO MITIGATE. THOSE TWO, GIVEN THE SURROUNDS, WHAT IS IT? [00:50:03] ARE THEY, IS THE LEASE UP IN THE MARKET RATE SIDE OR ON THE LOWER THAN MARKET RATE UNITS? YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO GO IN AND GET THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS ON THOSE TWO PROPERTIES. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. OKAY, AND THEN ONE OTHER ONE WAS THE BURNETT LOFTS. AND SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A NEWER PROPERTY AND THAT'S ALSO PFC. RIGHT, BURNETT LOFTS IS IT'S JUST RECENTLY COME ONLINE. SO I THINK IT'S IN THAT KIND OF 12-TO-24-MONTH INITIAL LEASE UP. OKAY, THANK YOU. JUST TO CLARIFY, CAN YOU REPEAT WHICH TWO PROPERTIES YOU'RE HAVING CRIME ISSUES AT? YEAH. THE, I MEAN, I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE RIGHT NOW IT'S STERLINGSHIRE AND THE CITIZEN. OKAY. LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE OFFLINE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO JUST KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR'S QUESTIONS. I SEE THE OCCUPANCY RATE ON HERE. AS I WAS THINKING THROUGH AND, AND LISTENING TO THOR'S COMMENTS ABOUT KIND OF ONGOING MONITORING. THE DECLINE RATE WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D BE INTERESTED IN AS WELL, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE AN INDICATOR FOR ME UNDERSTANDING WHAT ONE OF THE PROPERTIES AND COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR'S DISTRICTS. YOU KNOW, IT STARTED OUT AS SOMETHING THESE PROJECTS ARE MEANT TO SPUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING. AND TYPICALLY THEY DO IN CASES, BUT SOMETIMES THEY GET APPROVED WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF THE EXISTING CRIME AND THINGS THAT ARE AROUND THERE. SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE, WILL THIS PROJECT HELP OR HURT THE COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME, OR WOULD SOMETHING, WHAT SHOULD BE DONE IN ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT IN AND AROUND THE AREA? SO I JUST I'D LIKE TO GO ON THE RECORD AS AND MAYBE YOU ALL DO, BUT AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THESE. ALSO CONSIDERING THE EXISTING AREA, NOT JUST WHAT COULD BE, BUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN THE TIMING OF PROJECTS LIKE THESE, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT COULD START OUT GOOD, BUT IF IT'S INCREASING CRIME AROUND THE AREA, THEN WAS IT ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT WAS INTENDED TO DO? AND AS A RESULT, WE'VE NOW LOST TAXABLE INCOME TO THE CHAIRWOMAN'S COMMON COMPLAINT ABOUT THIS. SO SHOUT OUT TO CHAIR MENDELSOHN. AND THEN THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE I DID WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THE EXISTING DEED RESTRICTED. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COPY OF THE, OF THE LIST FROM THE STATE OF ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE EXPIRING AS WELL, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE DISTRICT THREE WILL BE SETTING UP A TASK FORCE. THIS IS ALL PERFECT TIMING IN TERMS OF SPECIFICALLY SURROUNDING HOUSING. AND WHAT CAN WE DO WITH SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE EXPIRING FROM THERE. AND HOW MANY OF THEM ARE THERE? FOR THERE, AND IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO PUT SOME KIND OF A CONVERT THEM TO CONDOS, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FROM A TAX BASE PERSPECTIVE. SO WE'RE STANDING UP A TASK FORCE TO DO THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE THAT LIST AND CONTINUE TO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IN THIS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. THANK YOU CHAIR, FOR LETTING NON MEMBERS ASK QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE THE GOOD QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES. SO THIS IS THE OCCUPANCY RATE AS OF THE END OF DECEMBER 31ST 2025. AND THIS WAS A SNAPSHOT AT THAT TIME, NOT THE AVERAGE OF THE YEAR, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. OKAY, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL AS WE EVALUATE THE SUCCESS OF THE OFFICES LEASING UP THESE FACILITIES TO SEE THE AVERAGES AT SOME POINT. I'M NOT SAYING LIKE EVERY MONTH, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE ALWAYS AT 70%, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A CONCERN, RIGHT? YEAH, DEFINITELY. WE LIKE TO SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, 88% AND BELOW AND ABOVE, THAT'S KIND OF CONSIDERED A HEALTHY OCCUPANCY. SO AND A STABILIZED ONE WHERE YOU CAN CALL IT A NORMAL OPERATIONS OF THE PROPERTY. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE OCCUPANCY RATE OF MARKET RATE PROPERTIES IN DALLAS IS RIGHT NOW? I KNOW THAT THAT'S TRACKED BY THE MARKET. I WOULD SAY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 85 AND 90% IS PROBABLY AVERAGE RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING IS I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP ON THE TWO PROPERTIES WITH THE CRIME PROBLEMS. CAN YOU JUST TOUCH ON FOR A SECOND HOW USE OF THE PFC-HFC CAN GIVE US, GIVE YOU AND THROUGH YOU, US MORE ABILITY TO CONTROL AND MITIGATE CRIME VERSUS IF IT'S JUST A LANDLORD CONTROLLED PROPERTY? YEAH, CERTAINLY. SO WE, WE'RE PROUD OF THE COORDINATION WE'RE ABLE TO DO, PARTICULARLY WITH THE STIRLING SHIRE PROPERTY. [00:55:05] IT'S BEEN I THINK IT WAS BUILT IN 2011 SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. TOUGH AREA OF THE CITY. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN CRIME SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, NOT JUST ON SITE, THERE IS A CAR WASH AND A CONVENIENCE STORE RIGHT ON THE CORNER THAT THE PROPERTY WAS BUILT AT, AND IT'S JUST BEEN A, ACCORDING TO DPD, IT'S BEEN KIND OF A SOURCE OF COMMOTION FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND SO I THINK AS A PARTNER, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET DIRECT REPORTS FROM 311 OR FROM CODE COMPLIANCE AND, AND FROM DPD. AND THEY CAN REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO ME OR TO THOR AND HIS STAFF. AND WE CAN COORDINATE DIRECTLY WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT STAFF. AND SO AS PART OF THE OWNERSHIP IN THAT PROPERTY, WE CAN THEN GO AND TALK TO THEM AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? IS THERE MORE WE CAN DO? AND SO OVER THE LAST 2 OR 3 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE OWNERSHIP. AND THEY'VE INSTALLED, I THINK, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF CAMERAS. WE'VE SET UP A COORDINATING A STANDING MEETING WITH DPD ON SITE AND JUST MONTHLY WITH OUR STAFF. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO YOU KNOW, ADD ADDITIONAL SECURITY MEASURES. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY PROSECUTION AND HELP THEM GET SOME OF THESE THINGS SHUT DOWN. NEXT TO THE PROPERTY. WE'VE WORKED WITH DPD AND I THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO CLOSE DOWN SOME OF THE ENTRANCES ON THE SITE THAT WERE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, DRIVE IN ON A, ON ABATED AND DUMP A BUNCH OF TRASH OR JUST, YOU KNOW, DO ANYTHING NEFARIOUS, YOU KNOW? SO IT'S BEEN VERY, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S CRIME PROBLEMS, BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE A KEY COG IN COORDINATING A RESPONSE TO THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON THERE. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IF WE WERE NOT IN THIS PARTNERSHIP, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THAT CONNECTION PER SE THAT THAT'S SO SEAMLESS. WHAT IS YOUR LEVERAGE? IS YOUR LEVERAGE THE TAX ABATEMENT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN THREATEN THE LANDLORD IF THEY DON'T WORK WITH YOU. WELL, WE CAN WE CAN THREATEN THE, A TOTAL TAKEOVER OF THE PROPERTY. WE CAN FORCE THE DEVELOPMENT PARTNER TO SELL IT. OKAY. AND SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. AND SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH US AND BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO TRYING TO TACKLE THESE ISSUES. NOW AGAIN, WE CAN'T SOLVE CRIME FROM A HOUSING STANDPOINT, BUT WE CAN DO CERTAIN THINGS TO HELP MITIGATE EFFECTS OF THINGS THAT EXIST, SO. VERSUS WITHOUT THE TOOL, WE'VE REALLY JUST GOT 311 AND 911. CORRECT. OKAY, GREAT. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT IS NOT MY CAR WASH NEAR DEVONSHIRE. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE IT IS. IT'S NOT MINE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. THANK YOU CHAIR. SO I WANT TO ADD, UNFORTUNATELY, A THIRD PROPERTY THE PROVIDENCE WE HAD A MURDER THERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO. AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MURDERS HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND DIFFERENT MULTIFAMILY. BUT TO CHAIR WESTS POINT IS, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT TOOLS WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS AND MITIGATE. BUT BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THAT IS YOU GUYS DO A LOT OF HOMEWORK ON SITE SELECTION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU'RE SELECTING, YOU KNOW, THE AREAS THAT ARE THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO. AND SO WHY NOT MITIGATE AND ADDRESS THE CRIME ISSUES PRIOR TO US HAVING INDIVIDUALS BACK INTO THOSE PROPERTIES? WHAT CAN WE DO BEFOREHAND IN PARTNERSHIP TO ADDRESS AREAS OF CRIME THAT YOU GUYS ARE KNOWINGLY GOING INTO? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. SO AGAIN, THE MOCKINGBIRD, PROVIDENCE MOCKINGBIRD, THAT'S KIND OF A LEGACY PROPERTY THAT WAS HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. I DON'T THINK THAT WE BUILT THAT GROUND UP. AND SO AGAIN, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS ACTUALLY OF FINANCING A NEW RENOVATION. SO THAT'S ONE THAT'S EXISTED FOR A DECADE OR SO OR MORE PROBABLY. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE AWARE THAT THIS ONE IS ONE THAT'S GOING TO NEED SOME MAJOR INVESTMENT TO BE ABLE TO BRING IT UP TO A HIGHER STANDARD FOR THOSE RESIDENTS AND FOR OUR CITY. BUT TO YOUR POINT, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MITIGATE THIS ON THE FRONT END? OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST JUMP INTO A HIGH CRIME NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S A BUNCH OF LOW-INCOME HOUSING, YOU KNOW, HAVE AT IT. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE BUILD A NEW PROPERTY IN AN AREA THAT IS SIGNALING SOME NEED, WE TRY TO GO IN AND, AND PARTNER WITH THE, I THINK THEY CALL IT THE CPTED. I GUESS IT'S A PROCESS WHERE YOU CAN, YOU CAN PARTNER WITH THE DPD SPECIALIST THERE AND THEY CAN GIVE US CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE DESIGN AND ON HOW THIS PROPERTY IS OPERATED SO THAT YOU CAN MITIGATE THAT THROUGH PASSIVE MEANS AS WELL. NOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A HUGE PROBLEM WITH CRIME, YOU, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED BEFOREHAND. [01:00:05] AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS DISCUSSED. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THAT'S NOT A GOAL OF OURS, IS TO GO AND PUT NEW HOUSING WHERE IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED DANGEROUS FOR ANYONE. THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE THE POINT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S A ISSUE THAT TAKES, I GUESS, MULTIPLE HANDS IN IT TO REALLY SOLVE. AND SO WE'RE JUST ONE ISSUE, RIGHT? OR ONE HAND AND THAT HANDSHAKE. SO THIS PROPERTY IS PRETTY MUCH SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MEDICAL DISTRICT. IT IS A MUCH OLDER PROPERTY WITH A LOT OF ACCESS POINTS. ALSO A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BEING SERVED THAT ARE SENIORS AND WITH DISABILITIES. AND SO WHAT I'M GETTING IS THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT USED TO LIVE IN THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY USED TO PAY LESS THAN WHAT THEY'RE PAYING TODAY. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY ADDRESS THAT AND LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN FINALLY IS WHEN WE HAVE A PROPERTY THAT DOES SEE SOME MANAGEMENT ISSUES. WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET A NEW MANAGEMENT TEAM IN THERE? THAT'S A GOOD POINT. NOW, IF YOU KNOW OF ANYTHING, YEAH, PLEASE REACH OUT AND WE'LL GO AND HAVE A MEETING AND AND WE CAN SET THAT UP WHENEVER IS IS CONVENIENT. CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE WE, WE MIGHT WANT TO SET THAT UP ANYWAYS. BUT TO CHANGE MANAGEMENT, DEPENDING ON THE AGREEMENT ON HOW THE PROJECT WAS SET UP. NOW I'M NOT SURE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE PROVIDENCE MOCKINGBIRD SITE THAT WAS YEARS AGO, BUT TYPICALLY NOW WE HAVE SOME VERY STRONG RIGHTS TO CONTROL WHAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS USED ON SITE. AND SO WE CAN, WE CAN FORCE A CHANGE IN MANAGEMENT USUALLY AT WILL. AND I THINK THAT'S THE MOST TROUBLING PART FOR ME IS THAT THIS PROPERTY, I DO KNOW IT'S VERY, IT'S AGED BUT IT'S ALSO BEEN UNDER THE PFC FOR, THE HFC, EXCUSE ME, FOR A WHILE NOW AND HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN ANY NEW AMENITIES OR UPGRADES TO THE FACILITY. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CURRENT OWNER THAT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO A RECIPROCATION OF TAX CREDITS TO PUT IN, YOU KNOW, 10 OR 15 MILLION. ARE THEY NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT UPFRONT? THEY COMMIT A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND ENHANCEMENTS. SO WHEN THEY ACQUIRED THIS PROJECT, I THINK IT WAS A TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP. IT WASN'T A FULL OUT PURCHASE. AND SO THEY TOOK OVER THE PREVIOUS OWNERSHIP WHO HAD DEVELOPED IT BACK IN WHENEVER THEY DID 20, 2005 OR 6 OR WHENEVER IT WAS BUILT. AND SO THAT'S OUR ROLE RIGHT NOW, IS WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET A NEW INFUSION OF CAPITAL THERE SO THAT WE CAN UNDERGO A MAJOR RENOVATION AND DEAL WITH A LOT OF THESE ISSUES THAT HAVE POPPED UP. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO I ACTUALLY WANT TO GO THROUGH WE'LL START WITH DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. WHEN I GO THROUGH AND DO THE MATH, MEANING HERE'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS, HERE'S THE OCCUPANCY. WE THEN HAVE A COLUMN THAT WASN'T INCLUDED, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY VACANT UNITS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO FOR PROVIDENCE MOCKINGBIRD, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE ONE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH CRIME, YOU HAVE 50, 50 VACANT UNITS TODAY, CORRECT? ABOUT. I'M LOOKING AT THE MEMO THAT I. ARE YOU LOOKING AT THIS MEMO? I'M SORRY. IF YOU JUST SAY 19% OF 251, THAT'S. OH YEAH, I WOULD SUSPECT YOUR MATH IS CORRECT, YES. SO WITH THE CRIME ISSUE, CPTED VERY OFTEN WILL RECOMMEND MAKING SURE THERE'S A FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND, THAT THERE'S WORKING GATES ALL THE WAY AROUND, LIGHTING, CAMERAS. DO YOU HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS AT THAT PROPERTY? I WOULD HAVE TO CONFIRM EACH SPECIFIC. I KNOW THERE ARE GATES THERE. SO I THINK LET'S HAVE YOU COME BACK NEXT MONTH. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU SPECIFICALLY ON THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BELOW 90%. WHAT OF, WHAT ELEMENTS YOU HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED AND WHICH ONES ARE PLANNED TO BE COMPLETED. AND THAT WOULD BE FENCING, GATING, LIGHTING AND CAMERAS FOR THE ONES THAT I'M GOING TO BRING UP TODAY. THE NEXT ONE IS FOR THE CITIZEN, THE MID PARK TOWERS, 71% OCCUPANCY. THAT'D BE ABOUT 58 UNITS ALSO DEALING WITH THE CRIME ISSUE. SO NOW WE'RE UP TO OVER 100 UNITS AVAILABLE. STERLINGSHIRE YOU BROUGHT UP HAVING A CRIME ISSUE, 73% OCCUPANCY, SO 71 VACANT UNITS. PALLADIUM REDBIRD, A REALLY FABULOUS [01:05:08] PROPERTY, 89%, SO 33 UNITS VACANT. DOMAIN AT MIDTOWN, 88% VACANCY, 47 VACANT UNITS. AXIS KESSLER, 82% VACANCY, 54 WOULD BE, I'M SORRY, OCCUPANCY 54 BE VACANT. THE 2929 WYCLIFF, 87% OCCUPANCY, SO 36 WOULD BE VACANT. THE MONDELLO, 87% OCCUPANCY, SO 19 UNITS VACANT. WATERFORD AT GOLDMARK, 88% OCCUPANCY, SO 26 WOULD BE VACANT. AND THEN WE'LL SKIP THE LEASE UP BECAUSE I AGREE THAT THERE'S A TIME PERIOD TO TRY TO GET THERE, BUT WITHOUT THE LEASE UPS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 394. JUST ROUGH MATH THAT ARE VACANT TODAY, 394 UNITS. AND I DON'T KNOW, I KEEP HEARING, OH MY GOSH, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS. SO HOW CAN WE EXPLAIN THESE 394? THIS IS JUST FOR THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. PLUS ON LEASE UP, WE HAVE ANOTHER 364 THAT ARE VACANT. I MEAN THAT'S A LOT OF VACANT UNITS. AND THAT'S ONLY ON THE HOUSING FINANCE SIDE. SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS MASSIVE TAX ABATEMENT WITH VACANT UNITS SITTING THERE? WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SIT HERE EVERY SINGLE WEEK AND TALK ABOUT, MY GOD, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS. WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT YET WE HAVE UNITS ALL ACROSS THE CITY EMPTY, WITH NO TAXES COMING IN FROM THEM. SO, I MEAN, I GUESS THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK THERE. BUT I WOULD SAY ALSO, JUST FOR ALL Y'ALL'S INFORMATION, AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ON AVERAGE, IT RUNS AT HIGHER VACANCY BECAUSE IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER TO QUALIFY FOLKS TO RENT THOSE UNITS, WHEREAS A NORMAL MARKET RATE PROPERTY IN DALLAS, I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING TO 85 TO 90% IS THE AVERAGE, THE AVERAGE OCCUPANCY. AND SO A LOT OF THESE ARE WITHIN THAT RANGE. BUT WHEN YOU ADD THE AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT, IT ADDS AN EXTRA MONTH OR TWO, SOMETIMES THREE. IF THEY'RE USING VOUCHERS TO GET QUALIFIED AND INTO THAT UNIT. NOW WHILE THE UNIT MAY BE HELD AS QUOTE UNQUOTE VACANT. IT DOES TAKE A LITTLE LONGER TO GET A NEW TENANT INTO THOSE UNITS. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT LAGS A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE MARKET. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS HERE. FIRST OF ALL, 85% VACANCY, A FOR PROFIT ENTITY WOULD BE FLIPPING OUT. AND I HAVE THEM REACH OUT TO ME ALL THE TIME. THAT IS AN UNACCEPTABLE LEVEL FOR THEM. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR US EITHER AND LONGER TO QUALIFY. EITHER WAY, PEOPLE ARE HAVING AN INCOME QUALIFY. SO YOU CAN RENT A $5,000 A MONTH APARTMENT, YOU'RE STILL HAVING TO INCOME QUALIFY. AND SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU THINK IT TAKES LONGER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DALLAS WITH A GIANT POVERTY RATE AND WHAT YOU AND OTHERS ARE CONSTANTLY CALLING A CRISIS. SO IF THERE ARE PEOPLE LINED UP LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HOW DO WE SIT HERE AND SAY, JUST FOR HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, WE HAVE 750 AVAILABLE UNITS TODAY, RIGHT NOW. THAT'S JUST FOR HOUSING FINANCE. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TALKED ABOUT PFC YET. I THINK PART OF PART OF THE WHOLE CONVERSATION IS MANY OF THE FAMILIES THAT WE KNOW HAVE THE NEED, THE UNDER 50% AMI POPULATION CONTINUE TO LIVE AT HOME. THEY DOUBLE UP. THEY TRIPLE UP WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE. THEIR FINANCES ARE NOT ALWAYS IN A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO OUT AND RENT THE UNIT ON THEIR OWN. AND SO IN ADDITION TO HAVING THE VACANCY AND HAVING THE UNIT THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR INCOME THEY CAN AFFORD, MANY OF THESE FAMILIES ARE STILL NOT IN THE FINANCIAL POSITION TO GO OUT AND HAVE THEIR OWN HOUSEHOLD AND RENT THAT UNIT. AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE DATA THAT SHOWS US HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD BE FORMING THEIR OWN HOUSEHOLDS. AND WE HAVE THE NEED AND WE START TO HAVE THE VACANCY, BUT THEY STILL CAN'T CLOSE THE GAP TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN RENT THAT UNIT AND STAY. ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S NOT THE NEED FOR THE 50% AMI? OH, NO, NO. THE NEED IS CLEARLY THERE AND WE'RE STARTING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE HAVE THE VACANCY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. IT'S, PART OF IT IS THAT FAMILY'S HOUSEHOLD SITUATION. BEING ABLE TO SAVE FOR THAT DOWN PAYMENT, THAT NEXT MONTH'S RENT AND THEN BEING ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR SOME OF THE TERMS CAN BE A BARRIER. BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. YOU CAN'T SAY THERE'S A MASSIVE NEED. [01:10:04] WE HAVE TO KEEP ADDING MORE UNITS WHEN WE'RE SITTING HERE JUST ON HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION WITH 750 AVAILABLE UNITS TODAY. AND THEN ALSO SAY, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE. BUT THEN YOU'RE ALSO SAYING, WELL, THERE ISN'T REALLY THE DESIRE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE UP FOR A HOME. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S NOT A CONSISTENT MESSAGING HERE. AND I THINK YOU'RE SEEING IT. SO LET'S GO TO THE PFC SIDE AGAIN, JUST LOOKING AT THE UNITS THAT ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BELOW 90% OCCUPIED. OF THE 13 PROPERTIES YOU HAVE THE LIST, 9 OF THEM ARE BELOW 90%. MOST OF THEM, 70% OF THEM ARE BELOW 90%. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BLC BURNETT LOFTS, 73% OCCUPIED. SO THERE'S 23 VACANT UNITS. BISHOP RIDGE, 76% OCCUPIED, 10 VACANT UNITS. BISHOP RIDGE FOR CAMBRIDGE. SORRY, THAT ONE'S 80% OCCUPIED, 8 AVAILABLE. THE FINCH, 60% OCCUPIED, 61 AVAILABLE UNITS. THE COOP BLUFFVIEW, 75% OCCUPANCY, 43 AVAILABLE. BISHOP 8TH, 57.7% OCCUPIED, 99 AVAILABLE UNITS. STANDARD AT ROYAL, 43% OCCUPIED, 171 UNITS. COOP SINGLETON, 64% OCCUPIED, 63 UNITS. IN THE MARCUS, 16% OCCUPIED, 63 UNITS. SO OBVIOUSLY THE MARCUS, IT'S 2026. SO WE'LL ASSUME THAT'S IN LEASE UP. ALL THE OTHERS ARE 2024 OR 2025. YEAH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE IS 541 UNITS ARE VACANT. YES MA'AM, SO ALL OF THE PSC PROJECTS ARE VERY NEW. AND SO THESE ARE STILL IN THEIR INITIAL PHASE OF LEASE UP. AND ONCE THEY REACH STABILIZATION, IF THEY DO FALL UNDER THOSE THRESHOLDS. YEAH, WE WOULD VIEW THAT AS A PROBLEM. BUT SINCE THESE ARE NEWLY OPENED AND THEY'RE STILL FILLING UP INITIALLY, I THINK THIS IS JUST PART OF THE NORMAL CYCLE OF ANY MULTIFAMILY PROJECT THAT THAT WILL BE MAKING ITSELF AVAILABLE AND FINDING RESIDENTS THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO RENT THERE. SO IN THE CONTRACT, DOES IT SAY AT WHAT POINT THEY NEED TO BE AT 90% OCCUPANCY? WHERE'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY ON THIS? SO IT, IT'S TOUGH TO WRITE THAT INTO A CONTRACT. YOU CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO COME AND LIVE SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET IS WHAT DICTATES WHERE PEOPLE MOVE AND WHEN AND WHY. SO ALL WE CAN DO IS RESPOND TO THE MARKET NEEDS. AND SO I WILL TELL YOU THIS LIST OF THE PFC PARTICULARLY, THIS IS DEFINITELY WITHIN NORMAL MARKET TIMELINES FOR LEASE UP. AND SO I WOULD EXPECT THAT ALL OF THESE BE AT NEAR 90% OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. AND IF THEY AREN'T, THAT'S DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD. BUT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT, I THINK I DON'T SEE MUCH CAUSE FOR WORRY BECAUSE THIS IS JUST THE NORMAL PART OF OPENING A PROPERTY AND GETTING IT FILLED UP. OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO SAY I THINK IT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO HAVE 541 PFC UNITS VACANT WHEN YOU ADD UP THE HFC AND PFC VACANCY, 01,299 UNITS AVAILABLE TODAY. TODAY. NONE OF WHICH ARE PAYING ANY TAXES. ALL OF WHICH, WE ARE SITTING HERE SAYING WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS. SO HOW DO WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS WITH 1.200? I'M SORRY, 1.299, ALMOST 1.300 UNITS AVAILABLE TODAY. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO ASK US TOMORROW TO APPROVE MORE, TO GIVE UP MORE REVENUE THAT OUR CITY DESPERATELY NEEDS, BECAUSE WHY? WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS, WHILE WE'RE SITTING THERE WITH 1300 AFFORDABLE UNITS. WHO HAS QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL, YOU'VE HAD YOUR TURN. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT BRIEFING IS GOING TO BE SKIPPED. AND THIS IS THE PRESENTATION BY HOUSING FORWARD. SORRY, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN. GOOD MORNING, UNFORTUNATELY HOUSING [01:15:06] FORWARD HAD A PRIOR COMMITMENT, AND OUR SCHEDULES GOT CROSSED AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO PRESENT TODAY ON THIS ITEM. OKAY. WOULD YOU EXPECT TO HAVE THE SAME PRESENTATION NEXT MONTH, OR DO YOU THINK THAT GIVEN THE RESCHEDULED STATE OF HOMELESSNESS, THAT THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT? THANK YOU. WE'LL COORDINATE AND CONFIRM. OKAY. WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT PRESENTATION IF POSSIBLE. SO LET'S DO THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT ITEM. THIS IS ITEM D. THIS IS THE ANNUAL, YOUR QUARTERLY REPORT. THANK YOU CHAIR. THIS MEMO PRESENTS THE CUMULATIVE PERFORMANCE TO DATE FOR BOTH QUARTER ONE AND QUARTER TWO. SOME MAIN HIGHLIGHTS OF THE YEAR TO DATE ARE THAT WE FULLY OUTSOURCE THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM TO VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA AND THE HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO BCL OF TEXAS. BOTH ORGANIZATIONS ARE UP AND RUNNING AND SERVING PEOPLE. THE FAIR HOUSING WORK THROUGH OUR INITIAL INVESTIGATIONS HAS HAD THREE CASES GO INTO LITIGATION WITH PROPERTY MANAGERS. THERE WAS A RECENT NEWS ARTICLE ON THAT. MORE TO COME ON THE OUTCOMES OF THAT AS THOSE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT THROUGH OUR WORK WITH SALVATION ARMY, THE BRIDGE AND AUSTIN STREET, 361 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HOUSED THIS FIRST TWO QUARTERS THROUGH THE EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT. THE REPORT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS AND CRITERIA FOR JUST THIS FISCAL YEAR. IT'S NOT HISTORICAL TO DATE CONTRACTS, THIS JUST CONTINUES OUR QUARTERLY REPORTING. THE LAST THING IS THAT THE PSC AND HSC WILL NOT BE REPORTED THROUGH THIS MECHANISM MOVING FORWARD, THEY'LL BRING THEIR OWN QUARTERLY REPORT TO THIS COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS THE SAME INFORMATION TO REPORT OUT ON. AND THE QUESTIONS RAISED TO DATE ON OCCUPANCY AND ALL THOSE THINGS. SO IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL ITEMS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PRESENTING BACK TO COMMITTEE ON WE CAN HELP COORDINATE THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ANY OF THE OTHER PAGES OR INFORMATION? AT THIS TIME, I THINK THOSE ARE LIKE THE MAIN HIGHLIGHTS OF THE YEAR TO DATE. OKAY. WHO HAS QUESTIONS ON THIS REPORT? COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. THANK YOU ON PAGE 8, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS. FOR THE OUTREACH SERVICES. TOTAL ENGAGEMENTS 441. TOTAL ASSESSMENTS 282. AND IN TOTAL HOUSING NAVIGATIONS ONE. WHAT IS HOUSING NAVIGATIONS AND IS. AND I SEE THAT NUMBER AS 49, SO WHAT ARE HOUSING NAVIGATIONS? YEAH, THANK YOU. THIS IS PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND HELPING THEM FIND THEIR PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTION, SOMETIMES THROUGH SHORT TERM RENTAL ASSISTANCE, SOMETIMES THROUGH DIVERSION, SOMETIMES THROUGH OTHER MECHANISMS. AND SO DEPENDING ON THE CASE, PEOPLE'S SITUATION MAY VARY THERE. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE NEXT ONE, TO THE STREET TO HOME. AM I TO INTERPRET THAT OR THE WAY I INTERPRET THAT IS I SEE TOTAL INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS SERVED WITH CITY FUNDS, 330. GROUP 2 CLIENTS NEEDING RENTAL ASSISTANCE, 131. CLIENTS RETURNING TO HOMELESSNESS AFTER 12 MONTHS IS 32. I INTERPRET TOTAL HOUSING NAVIGATIONS 49. AND THEN OF THOSE 49, 32 RETURNED TO HOMELESSNESS. IS THAT THE PROPER WAY TO LOOK AT THAT, OR IS THAT ARE THOSE TWO SEPARATE SERVICES? THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE SERVICES RIGHT NOW. WE ARE WE ARE REPORTING THIS OUT AT THE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS AND INITIATIVES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS A BETTER WAY TO SHOW THIS STORY OF THE DIFFERENT SERVICES COMBINED, THE AMOUNT OF BUDGET SPENT TO COMPLETE THOSE SERVICES AND TO RETELL THIS NARRATIVE A LITTLE BIT. SO IT'S MORE CLEAR THAN JUST SAYING, THIS CONTRACT HAS THIS, AND THIS IS WHAT IT DID, BECAUSE OVER THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, YOU CAN'T REALLY PULL IT ALL TOGETHER IN THIS FORMAT. AND SO AS WE'RE WORKING ON THAT REFINEMENT, YOUR FEEDBACK TODAY IS HELPFUL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. THANK YOU. SO YOU CALLED OUT AS YOU WENT THROUGH JUST KIND OF WHAT THE HIGHLIGHTS WERE. BUT I WOULD JUST I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, LIKE, WHAT'S THE GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED HERE? LIKE I'M LOOKING AT FULLY OUTSOURCED. YOU KNOW, FULLY OUTSOURCING A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS, BUT WE STILL, IT'S STILL SUCH A LOW NUMBER AND THAT JUST MAY BE THE NATURE OF THAT BEAST, UNFORTUNATELY. BUT THEN WHAT IS THE THING GOING INTO OUR NEXT BUDGETING SEASON AND JUST OUR NEXT YEAR THAT YOU THINK WE REALLY NEED TO TURN MORE ATTENTION TO? THANK YOU, FOR RIGHT NOW. IT'S, THAT'S BEEN THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THE NEW MERGE HOUSING COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. IT'S LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT WE HAVE, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED THROUGH OUR GENERAL FUND VERSUS OUR GRANTS. [01:20:04] AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OUR INTERNAL BUDGET TO SAY, HERE IS HOW WE'VE APPROACHED IT, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR DIFFERENT PARTNERS AND THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ALL TO HELP IDENTIFY THE MOST NEEDED GAP. AND SO WE'VE GIVEN OUR HOUSING PRESENTATION THAT INCLUDED HOMELESSNESS ENDED ON APRIL 1ST. WE'LL HAVE AN UPCOMING BRIEFING ON HOMELESSNESS FOR MORE INFORMATION. AND THEN I'VE SENT EMAILS TO EACH OF YOU TO HELP UNPACK SORT OF WHAT ARE MAYBE THE PRIORITY AREAS AND THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON THROUGH OUR HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS POLICY, SO THAT I CAN PRESENT TO YOU MORE CLEARLY WHAT OUR PRIORITIES COLLECTIVELY ARE, FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD, AND WHERE WE CAN SPEND OUR GENERAL FUND VERSUS OUR GRANTS TO FILL THE GAPS THAT ARE NEEDED, THE MANY GAPS THAT ARE NEEDED ACROSS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SERVICES SPECTRUM. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR. I'M GOING TO BE PROBABLY VERY ELEMENTARY HERE. WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE HOUSING, THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH DISTRICT EIGHT HAS THE LARGEST NUMBER OF, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE YOU SAYING DOWN HERE? I HAVE FOUR IN THE 0 TO 30% AMI, AND TWO IN THE 51 THROUGH 80%, AMI. OR IS IT SAYING THAT I HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX HOMES THAT ARE IN THE STATE OF REPAIR? THANK YOU. SO OF THE 14 HOMES REPAIRED, WE'RE SHOWING THE BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THEY WERE COMPLETED AND WHICH DISTRICT. SO FROM ALL THE HOME REPAIR THAT HAVE BEEN IN PROCESS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAD STARTED OR OUTSOURCING TO VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, WHEN THAT HOME REPAIR IS COMPLETED, WE ALWAYS SHOW WHAT DISTRICT IT WAS IN AND WHAT ARMY WE SERVED. AND SO THIS THROUGH THIS QUARTER, WE'VE COMPLETED SIX HOMES IN DISTRICT EIGHT. OKAY, SO OF THOSE SIX HOMES IN DISTRICT EIGHT, THIS IS PRIOR TO US GOING TO THE THIRD PARTY, CORRECT? THAT IS, IT'S INCLUSIVE OF. SO THIS IS THIS FISCAL YEAR TO DATE PERFORMANCE ON HOW MANY HOMES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED FOR HOME REPAIR. SO WE HAVE 43 IN REVIEW, SEVEN IN AND PROCESS CONSTRUCTIONS AND 14 THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED. THAT'S CORRECT. SO OF THOSE 43 THAT ARE IN REVIEW, HOW MANY DO YOU EXPECT TO COME OUT AND ACTUALLY GET INTO A PROCESS AND A PROJECT AND A PROGRAM TO BE REPAIRED? ALL OF THEM. ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE REPAIRED? YES. SO HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS? SO IT'LL VARY. VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, THE FIRST THING THAT THEY ARE DOING IS CLOSING OUT SOME OF THE LARGER HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS THAT WE OUTSOURCED THE MAJOR SYSTEMS. AS YOU MAY RECALL, COUNCIL AMENDED OUR HOME REPAIR TO DO MAJOR SYSTEMS. SO THOSE ARE THE UP TO $24,000 JOBS. SO AS THE FIRST HOMES THAT ARE OF LARGER WORK GET DONE, THE NUMBERS THAT GET DONE EACH MONTH WILL START TO INCREASE PRETTY RAPIDLY BECAUSE THE JOBS TAKE LESS TIME TO COMPLETE. OKAY, SO NOW LET ME ASK A FEW QUESTIONS OVER THE FINANCES OF THIS. WE HAVE 1 MILLION IN THE PIPELINE A LITTLE OVER ONE POINT, ALMOST 1.2 THAT'S COMMITTED AND 182,000, 183,000. THAT'S BEEN EXPENSED, BUT WE HAVE A PRIOR CARRYOVER OF ALMOST 13 MILLION. ARE WE SAYING THAT WE HAVE $13 MILLION WORTH OF REPAIRS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SPENT, OR IS THAT $13 MILLION IN THE REPAIR PROGRAM THAT IS IN THE PIPELINE TO BE REPAIRED? IT'S THE AMOUNT THAT, ROUGHLY THE AMOUNT THAT WE OUTSOURCE TO VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA TO COMPLETE THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS FOR US, WHICH IS OVER 200 HOMES THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE. THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW ARE THE ONES WHERE THEY'RE ACTIVELY WORKING RIGHT NOW ON REVIEWING FILES AND CONFIRMING ELIGIBILITY. YOU'LL START TO SEE THESE NUMBERS GROW AS MORE PEOPLE GO THROUGH REVIEW INTO CONSTRUCTION, AND THEN THAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WILL START TO BE SPENT. SO HOW DO WE SEE IN THIS, IN YOUR REPORT THAT WE HAVE 200 HOMES THAT ARE THIRD PARTY VENDORS IS IN THE IS REPAIRING OR IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING REPAIRED. AND HOW DO WE SHOW THAT SO THAT WE GET A TOTAL PICTURE OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE HOME REPAIR PROCESS, BECAUSE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS WE HAVE $13 MILLION OF CARRYOVER, AND WE HAVE ONLY $1 MILLION IN THE PIPELINE. SO IF IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE $12 MILLION, THAT THE CITY HAS $12 MILLION THAT IS LEFT UNALLOCATED. AND THAT'S WHAT FROM WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME NOW IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THE PAPER. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I UNDERSTAND HOW THIS REPORT CAN TELL TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO FOR OUR NEXT QUARTERLY REPORT, YOU'LL SEE AN OVERHAUL OF THIS. [01:25:06] THIS HAS BEEN THE REPORT THAT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY BROUGHT TO HOUSING COMMITTEE AT SOME LEVEL. BUT IT DOESN'T TELL THE COMPLETE STORY. IT DOESN'T TELL OUR WHOLE HISTORY. IT DOESN'T SHOW THE FULLY COMMITTED CONTRACTS. AND SO LET US TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK HERE AND PRESENT SOMETHING THAT WILL SHOW YOU MORE OF A HISTORICAL NARRATIVE AND YEAR TO DATE PERFORMANCE, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY HIGHLIGHT MORE WHERE THE CONTRACTS ARE AT. PEOPLE IN PIPELINE AND NUMBERS COMPLETED FOR THE YEAR. WELL, TO BE VERY FRANK WITH YOU IT LOOKS AS THOUGH WE HAVE MONEY THAT WE COULD REALLOCATE IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS. AND AS WE'RE COMING UP TO A BUDGET CONVERSATION, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THAT UNDER THE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM, WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY THAT'S JUST SITTING THERE THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE REALLOCATED IN DIFFERENT AREAS WITHIN THE CITY. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOW OR NOT. YEAH, THANK YOU. AND I'M NOT. AND PRIMARILY HOME REPAIR IS FUNDED THROUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. IT'S FEDERAL FUNDED. IT'S GRANT FUNDED. HOME REPAIR ALSO HAS SOME MONEY FROM THREE TIF DISTRICTS DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE PROGRAM. THERE IS A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS IN GENERAL FUND FROM A MULTI YEAR FUND FROM A COUPLE YEARS AGO DEDICATED TO SENIORS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON OUTSOURCING AS WELL. BUT THAT'S COMMITTED FUNDS TO HOME REPAIR SPECIFICALLY. IT'S NOT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET OR A FORECASTED FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET TO CONTINUE AS THAT ENHANCEMENT, BUT JUST SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE'VE HAD REMAINING TO BE SPENT ON HOME REPAIR. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT BUT I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT WHAT IT APPEARS AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT I THINK YOU'RE, WHAT THE REPORT IS TRYING TO MAKE US BELIEVE, MAKE US SEE. SO JUST HELP ME OUT BECAUSE I'M THE VISUAL. IF I DON'T SEE IT, IT DOESN'T EXIST. THANK YOU. THE SAME THING WITH THE, THE HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE SAME TYPE OF THINGS HAPPEN IN THIS PARTICULAR REPORTING, SO THAT WHAT WE SEE IS THE TOTAL PICTURE, NOT JUST A SNAPSHOT OF SOMETHING LESS THAN. SO DO WE. WE HAVE PRIOR YEARS CARRY OVER ALMOST $1 MILLION, $903,000. AND WE GOT BUDGETED IS 1.8 MILLION. SO SHOW ME A PICTURE OF HOW THIS MONEY IS ACTUALLY BEING ALLOCATED. AND IF WE HAVE ANYTHING LEFT OVER AND IF SO, WHERE IS, WHERE THE, WHERE ARE THOSE FUNDS COMING FROM? ARE THEY, ARE THEY FEDERAL FUNDS, STATE FUNDS OR CITY FUNDS THAT WE HAVE? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR. THEY ARE NOT GENERAL FUNDS. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. THANK YOU CHAIR. ON PAGE TWO, THE DALLAS HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. SO THE REPORTING PERIOD IS OCTOBER 2025 THROUGH MARCH 2026, AS ARE THE OTHERS. THE COMMITTED DOLLARS ARE ONLY GOING THROUGH MARCH. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF THE YEAR. OKAY. AND SO WE STILL HAVE, IS THE EXPENSE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS JUST FOR THE HOME BUYERS? THIS PAGE IS ONLY REFERENCING THE HOMEBUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. OKAY. AND SO HOW MUCH IS LEFT AS OF MARCH IN THE BALANCE? THERE'S ROUGHLY $1.3 MILLION REMAINING. OKAY. AND SO THE EXPENSE, I DON'T SEE A BREAKDOWN ON ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS VERSUS ACTUAL DOLLARS GOING DIRECTLY TO INDIVIDUALS. CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE ALLOTMENT IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS? THANK YOU, I'D HAVE TO PULL THAT FROM OUR FEDERAL BUDGET. I DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE TOP OF MY NOTES IN TERMS OF OUR GENERAL HOUSING MANAGEMENT SUPPORT FOR FEDERAL GRANTS. THIS REPORT IS SHOWING YOU THE DIRECT DELIVERY AMOUNT, THE AMOUNT GOING TO ACTUAL CLIENTS. I CAN PULL THE DHAP CONTRACT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES TO BCL OF TEXAS AND SEND IT TO YOU AS WELL AFTER THIS MEETING. OKAY. AND SO I WOULD IMAGINE BETWEEN JUNE AND OCTOBER, BETWEEN MARCH AND OCTOBER MAYBE EXPENSING ANOTHER HALF $1 MILLION. AND SO WHAT DO YOU SEE A DELTA AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR? [01:30:09] RIGHT NOW, BCL OF TEXAS IN THEIR OPERATING MODEL IS PROJECTED TO SPEND ALL OF THEIR INITIAL CONTRACT WITHIN THE YEAR. OKAY. DHAP IS A PROGRAM THAT TYPICALLY RAMPS UP HERE IN SPRING AND SUMMER AS HOME BUYERS, TYPICALLY, FOR WHATEVER REASON, AREN'T BUYING AS MUCH DURING THE WINTER AS THEY DO IN THE SPRING AND SUMMER. AND SO WE TYPICALLY SEE MORE UPTICKS COMING IN THE NEXT TWO QUARTERS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WEST. THANK YOU. WHERE IN THE DOCUMENTS FOR THE HOUSING, THE HOME REPAIR AND THE DHAP ARE THE TARGETS? I DON'T HAVE TARGETS. IN THIS REPORT, WE HAVE HISTORICALLY JUST PRESENTED OUT ON COMPLETIONS TODAY, BUT WE CAN ADD IN THE CONTRACTED PROGRAM GOALS FOR EACH OF THE NEW VENDORS. I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. I MEAN, HOW CAN WE HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR PERFORMANCE MEASURES WITHOUT THAT. HURT. GOT IT. DO THE. OKAY, SO AS PART OF THE BUDGET, I KNOW SOME OF THE TIFS HAVE BEEN INCLUDING THE GATEWAY TIF AND DISTRICT ONE, DISTRICT FOUR HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO, MODIFY TO BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS. THAT'S CORRECT. IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET? IT IS. SO THAT'S PART OF THIS. YES. AND IS THERE A PORTION OF THE TIFS ANNUAL FUNDING THAT IS DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY FOR IT, OR ARE YOU INCLUDING THE WHOLE BUDGET OF THE TIF? NO, THANK YOU. THERE'S A PORTION IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION FOR EACH OF THOSE TIF DISTRICTS, AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED PER YEAR FOR THE NEXT BASICALLY TEN YEARS. FOR THE 1 IN 4, IT'S ROUGHLY 1 TO $1.5 MILLION A YEAR, DEPENDING ON PERFORMANCE. AND I CAN MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE SOME OF THAT BREAKDOWN IN OUR FUTURE REPORTS AS WELL. OKAY, SO OF THE, AND THAT'S FOR THE HOME REPAIR, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. ALSO DHAP IS ALSO AN ELIGIBLE USE OF THOSE FUNDS AND SO. WHAT? THE HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. OKAY. THAT THAT MONEY IS DEDICATED TO HOMEOWNER STABILIZATION RELATED TO TIF DISTRICT IMPACT. AND SO THE HOME REPAIR AND DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE BOTH SATISFY THAT CRITERIA. OKAY, SO OF THE 15 MILLION IN THE HOME REPAIR AND OF THE 1.3 MILLION IN EXPENSE FOR DHAP HOW MUCH OF THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE TIF? CAN YOU. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOU CAN SEND ME A BREAKDOWN. YEAH, I'LL HAVE TO SEND YOU A BREAKDOWN TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, ACTUALLY, I WASN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOME REPAIR, BUT SINCE IT'S COME UP SO MUCH, I'M GOING TO. HOW MUCH OF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN CONTRACTED OUT WITH OUR THIRD PARTY? MOST OF IT. WE HAD ROUGHLY A $13 MILLION CONTRACT WITH VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA. WE HAVE ROUGHLY $2 MILLION AND AN UPCOMING PROCUREMENT FOR THE OLD SENIOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM. AND SO THAT WILL BE THE TOTAL REMAINING TO DATE THAT WE'RE WORKING TO OUTSOURCE. OKAY, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THIS MONEY IS ACTUALLY ALREADY SPOKEN FOR. AND IT'S EITHER ALREADY CONTRACTED OR ABOUT TO BE. THAT'S CORRECT. TOTALLY ENCUMBERED. OKAY, SO THE NEXT THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT WHILE OUR RESIDENTS REALLY APPRECIATE THE ASSISTANCE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THE REPAIRS TO THE HOMES THEMSELVES, OUR INTEREST BESIDES, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL COMPASSION IS GREAT, BUT OUR INTEREST IS A POLICY IS IN PRESERVING SINGLE FAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO THE PAGE YOU HAVE FOR THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. I JUST WANT TO VERIFY WHAT THESE NUMBERS MEAN ON THE TABLE. SO STARTING WITH THE PUBLIC FACILITY CORPORATION, 01,286 UNITS ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT ARE NOT ON OUR PREVIOUS REPORT THAT WE JUST SPOKE ON. CORRECT. OKAY, SO ANOTHER 1.200. AND THEN ON THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION 3.828 CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, NOT INCLUDED ON THE REPORT WE ALREADY HAD. CORRECT. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMING ONLINE. YES. OKAY. SO NOW I JUST WANT TO GO OVER TO THE ALL THE SLIDES YOU HAVE ON HOMELESSNESS. AND THERE'S SOME GOOD INFORMATION ON THERE, BUT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT BY AGENCY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE HAVE DIFFERENT METRICS BEING SHARED FROM DIFFERENT AGENCIES? YEAH, THANK YOU. MANY OF THESE CONTRACTS ARE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR SOME TIME. [01:35:01] I THINK AS WE DISCUSSED LAST QUARTER THOSE ARE THE PERFORMANCE METRICS AS NEGOTIATED AND WERE PRESENTED IN THE DIFFERENT PROCUREMENTS. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL SEE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR CONTRACTS IS MORE OF A CONSISTENT FRAMEWORK OF WHAT WE COLLECT AND REPORT OUT ON SO THAT WE CAN COMPARE THINGS MORE CLOSELY TO EACH OTHER. OKAY, WELL, I WOULD LIKE US TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, THE CONSISTENT METRICS ARE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE. WE MAY WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. WE ALSO NEED A CONSISTENT DEFINITION OF WHAT RETURN TO HOMELESSNESS MEANS. SO WE SEE IN SOME OF THESE PRESENTATIONS SOME VERY LOW NUMBERS OF RETURN TO HOMELESSNESS. BUT THEN ONCE WE HEARD FROM HOUSING FORWARD, HOW THEY'RE MEASURING THAT IS QUITE ALARMING BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A STANDARD WAY TO DO THAT. AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME REAL CONSISTENCY THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SEE STREET OUTREACH AND THEY'RE NOT PUTTING PEOPLE IN HMIS, BUT THEY'RE MEASURING THEIR SUCCESS BY SAYING, WE PUT SOMEONE IN HOUSING AND THEY DIDN'T COME BACK INTO HMIS. THERE'S A REAL GAP THERE, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY INCENTIVIZED TO NOT PUT SOMEONE IN HMIS BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE THEIR OTHER METRIC LOOK BAD. AND SO I'VE NEVER HEARD OF AN ORGANIZATION WHO DIDN'T MEASURE SUCCESS BY, I CAN STILL GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU, BECAUSE A PERSON WHO'S STABLY HOUSED, STABLY EMPLOYED, IS REACHABLE, AND A PERSON WHO RETURNS TO HOMELESSNESS IS NOT, VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND THEM. AND SO JUST THE ABSENCE OF HEARING FROM SOMEONE DOES NOT INDICATE SUCCESS. SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT AND, AND PERHAPS YOU WANT TO SAVE THIS FOR NEXT MONTH. AND IF YOU DO, THAT'S FINE. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE, BUT DO YOU SEE GAPS IN OUR HOMELESSNESS EFFORTS? I THINK I'D RATHER WAIT FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS NEXT MONTH. I THINK THAT THERE ARE JUST GENERALLY JUST FOR PART OF THE CONVERSATION, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NEED ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM OF HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS. AND WHERE WE CHOOSE TO LEVERAGE OUR FUNDING AND PARTNERSHIPS AND COLLECTIVE IDEAS IS A MIXED BAG. AND SO LOOKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AS POLICY MAKERS TO HELP DIRECT AMONGST THE MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT WE COULD BE INVESTING IN, WHERE DO WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE MOST IMPACT? WELL, I THINK I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THERE'S A FINITE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY YOU TOLD A REALLY HEARTFELT STORY ABOUT A YOUNG WOMAN WHO NEEDED COMPASSION AND DIRECTION. SHE MIGHT NOT HAVE NEEDED PROFESSIONAL HELP. SHE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT HELP FROM THE FAITH COMMUNITY, FROM A TRUSTED ADULT THAT COULD HELP HER. BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WITH VERY SIGNIFICANT MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION CRISES HAPPENING ALL OVER OUR CITY, EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT, AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED. AND SO THE IMMEDIACY AND THE URGENCY OF SEEING IT IN PERSON, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. BUT FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, I'M CONCERNED THAT OUR RESOURCES ARE ON A NINE ON ONE BASIS. IT'S WHATEVER THE NEXT URGENT CALL IS WE THROW MONEY AT IT INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT IT IN A HOLISTIC WAY AND SAY, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO? THE REASON I REALLY WANT TO HAVE HOUSING FORWARD GIVE THE PRESENTATION THAT THEY GAVE TO THE COUNTY ABOUT DEDICATED FUNDING IS THAT DEDICATED FUNDING IS NEEDED. IS IT NEEDED THE WAY THEY DO IT? THAT COULD BE ARGUED. BUT DEDICATED FUNDING FOR HOMELESSNESS IS ESSENTIAL, AND IT'S BEEN MISSING IN OUR SYSTEM FOR A LONG TIME. AND WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE VERY REAL AND APPARENT CRISIS THAT WE ALL SEE ON OUR STREETS WITH ADDICTION AND MENTAL ILLNESS, THOSE ARE TWO AREAS THAT ARE COVERED BY THE COUNTY, NOT BY THE CITY. AND WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE ISSUES BEYOND OUR SCOPE. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE RESOURCES. THEY ARE LITERALLY OUR HEALTH AUTHORITY. WE GAVE THAT TO THEM. AND IF WE WANT TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TAKING OUR HEALTH AUTHORITY BACK. BUT IF NOT, WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THOSE ISSUES ARE ACTUALLY COUNTY WIDE. [01:40:01] AND WHEN YOU HAVE A DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY THAT'S ON THE PERIMETER OF THE CITY, WE KNOW PEOPLE WALK ACROSS JURISDICTIONS ALL THE TIME. THEY DON'T KNOW. THEY DON'T CARE WHETHER THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN MESQUITE OR IN DALLAS OR IN PLANO OR IN DALLAS OR CARROLLTON OR ANY OF OUR OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE COUNTY BECOMES REALLY IMPORTANT. AND THERE'S A REASON OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE IS BOTH DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES, BECAUSE THAT IS THE BULK OF OUR PEOPLE AS WELL. SO I HOPE YOU'LL THINK ABOUT THAT QUESTION. I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE FOR US TO ACTUALLY REALLY GET TO LIKE, WHAT IS THE PRIORITY? AND PERHAPS YOU CAN EVEN ASK IT TO US BY SAYING, HERE'S ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE COULD FUND. BUT HOW WOULD WE EITHER RANK IT? HOW WOULD WE DIVIDE A DOLLAR UP BETWEEN THEM? WHAT IS ACTUALLY US? WHAT IS ANOTHER ORGANIZATION? AND THAT INCLUDES THE FAITH COMMUNITY. AND IT INCLUDES THE COUNTY. IT INCLUDES NONPROFITS THAT DON'T ASK US FOR ASSISTANCE. OUR LARGEST SHELTERS ARE NOT THE ONES WE FUND, RIGHT. SO WE JUST HEARD SALVATION ARMY, DALLAS LIFE, ANOTHER VERY LARGE ONE WE HARDLY EVER EVEN TALK ABOUT. THEY'RE OUR SECOND LARGEST SHELTER. SO THANK YOU FOR THIS INFORMATION. I THINK IT'S GOOD DATA. I THINK WE'RE GETTING CLOSER, BUT WE GOTTA ALSO HAVE THE WAY TO COMPARE ORGANIZATION AND PROGRAMS WITH EACH OTHER. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. BRIEFING E, THIS IS THE MONTHLY OUTCOMES REPORT FROM KEVIN ODEN. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM? I DO. GREAT. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR. GOOD MORNING. I THINK I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. AND WHEN YOU HAVE PRIVATE PARTY SERVICE REQUESTS, 216. SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH THOSE SERVICE REQUESTS WHEN THEY'RE PRIVATE PARTIES? GOOD MORNING, KEVIN ODIN, DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE. SO TYPICALLY WE WORK WITH THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT AS THEY'RE THE PRIMARY ON ANY ISSUES RELATED TO PRIVATE PROPERTY. WE DO SUPPORT THEM, AS DO SOME OTHER DEPARTMENTS. BUT THIS SIMPLY DENOTES THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PUBLIC SPACES THAT, THAT MY DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY SERVES AND THE PRIVATE, THAT THAT CODE GENERALLY TAKES THE LEAD ON. SO AND I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE SERVICE REQUESTS WE HAVE WE MAY HAVE AN ENCAMPMENT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND YOU'RE REQUIRED, AND YOUR PROCESS IS TO GET CODE TO COME OUT AND, AND ASSESS WHAT'S GOING ON AND HELP ADDRESS THAT FROM PRIVATE, FROM A PRIVATE PROPERTY PERSPECTIVE. DO WE HAVE A WAY TO SHOW ON THIS REPORT WHAT FOLLOW UP IS? SO THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE STILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE STILL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO THAT WE SHOW THAT THEY ARE, THERE IS A PROCESS OF COMPLETION. POTENTIALLY WE COULD, I WOULD HAVE TO RELY ON DIRECTOR CHRISTIAN AND HIS TEAM TO PROVIDE THAT DATA ON THE NUMBER OF CLEANINGS THAT THEIR NUISANCE ABATEMENT TEAM DOES ON THOSE PRIVATE PROPERTIES. IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH. IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF TIMING UP WHEN THAT DATA IS IS AVAILABLE. AND IF WE COULD INTEGRATE IT INTO THIS REPORT, I WOULD LIKE THAT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE. RIGHT HERE. OH I'M SORRY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY. AGAIN, JUST KEVIN JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR RESPONDING TO YESTERDAY'S SITUATION AGAIN ON A HOLIDAY AT ANY TIME. BUT THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOURSELF AND YOUR TEAM AVAILABLE DURING THAT TIME TO HELP. THANK YOU. SO IF I CAN JUST RESPOND QUICKLY. IT WAS MADE INFINITELY EASIER AND LESS COMPLEX BY THE GREAT IDEA YOU HAD THE SELF TRANSPORT. SO THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT IDEA BECAUSE I WASN'T THINKING OF IT IN THE MINUTE, BUT I'M GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME IN THAT CASE. GREAT. ALL RIGHT, ITEM F. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? OKAY, ITEM G. THIS IS AGENDA ITEM FOR TOMORROW FOR HOUSING FORWARD. [01:45:06] OKAY, WELL I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT. IT REALLY GOES BACK TO SLIDE EIGHT UNDER PRESENTATION D WITH THE OUTCOMES. AND IN THE WRITE UP FOR THE AGENDA ITEM YOU'VE GOT THE PERFORMANCE DATA AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MEETING THE PERFORMANCE DATA. I WONDER IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT. THANK YOU. UNDER REVIEW THE MAIN ITEM THAT HAS NOT BEEN MET IS THE TOTAL HOUSING NAVIGATIONS GETTING FOLKS COMPLETELY INTO HOUSING. BUT IN LOOKING AT THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, IT'S ABOUT THE ESSENTIAL WORK GOING INTO ENCAMPMENTS, DOING THE OUTREACH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ARE SOME OF OUR MOST CHRONICALLY HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS HARDEST TO HOUSE, THAT NEED MULTIPLE TOUCH POINTS OF CONNECTING TO SERVICES. AND SO WHILE THE VISION IS TO HOUSE MORE PEOPLE THROUGH THAT WORK, IT IS HARDER THAN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE CAN TELL THAT STORY ADEQUATELY. AND SO THE WORK, THOUGH, REMAINS ONE THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A DEDICATED SET OF FOLKS THAT GO OUT AND DO THIS CASE MANAGEMENT WORK IN CAMPS. AND SO WE PRESENT IT TO YOU, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE END RESULT OF SOME OF THIS IS NOT MAYBE WE'RE EXPECTED IN THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES, BUT THE WORK TO HAVE THOSE FRONT END TRUST BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS IS STILL ESSENTIAL. SO YOU HAVE THE GOAL FOR TOTAL ENGAGEMENTS AT 1,500. IN THE FULL BRIEFING MATERIALS, NOT JUST IN THIS MEMO YOU HAVE FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, THE GOAL 1,500, THEY HAD 646, SO NOT EVEN HALF. IN FISCAL YEAR 25 THEY MET THE GOAL. AND THEN SO FAR IT LOOKS LIKE YEAR TO DATE THERE ARE 523. SO HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR THEY'RE ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY THERE. AND THAT'S FOR ENGAGEMENTS. I THINK WE LOOK AT IT OVER THE TOTAL CONTRACT TERM AS WELL. SO IF WE LOOK AT IT IN JUST THE QUARTERS OR LOOKING AT IT IN CERTAIN TIME PERIODS THAT GOES BACK TO HOW WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF SHOWING THE FULL CONTRACT AND PERFORMANCES. I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL CONTRACT TO DATE, I SHOW THAT THEIR ENGAGEMENTS HAVE BEEN OVER 2,000 WITH THE GOAL OF 1,500. THE TOTAL ASSESSMENTS, GETTING THEM TO THAT NEXT LEVEL IS AT 1,240, WITH THE GOAL OF 1,100. AND THE TOTAL HOUSING NAVIGATIONS AT 169, WITH THE GOAL OF 400. SO THE TOTAL ENGAGEMENTS FOR 1,500 IS OVER THE CONTRACT TERM, NOT OVER A CALENDAR YEAR OR FISCAL YEAR? THAT'S CORRECT. AND WHO DETERMINED THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT GOAL? HOW WAS THAT GOAL DETERMINED? I DON'T HAVE THAT HISTORY UNFORTUNATELY. BUT YOU'RE PROPOSING THE SAME GOAL GOING FORWARD. I'M PRESENTING IT TO CONTINUE THE TYPE OF WORK THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACT AT THIS AT THIS MOMENT, YES. OKAY. I THINK THE THOUGHT OF GOING OUT TO IN CAMPS, HAVING THE TOUCH POINTS, GETTING FOLKS TO THAT NEXT LEVEL OF ASSESSMENT AND THEN TRACKING THE TOTAL HOUSING NAVIGATION IS STILL CONSISTENT WITH THE TYPE OF OUTREACH WORK THAT WOULD BE UNDER CONTRACT. AND IS THE HOUSING NAVIGATION WHAT THEY THEMSELVES ARE DOING OR THAT THEY'RE USING OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND COUNTING THEIR WORK? IT'S A COMBINATION, RIGHT? BECAUSE AS THE LEAD AGENCY, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT COULD BE CONNECTED TO A PERSON. WELL, I GUESS I, I'M GOING TO SAY IT THIS WAY. SO TOTAL HOUSING NAVIGATIONS IN FISCAL YEAR 24 WAS 26. SO ARE YOU SAYING ONLY 26 PEOPLE HAD HOUSING NAVIGATION SERVICES IN OUR ENTIRE CONTINUUM? NO, ONLY THROUGH THIS DIRECT TOUCHPOINT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. WHAT IS TOUCH POINT MEAN? IT'S THAT INITIAL ENGAGEMENT THEY'RE LOGGED INTO HMIS. I GUESS THEY TRACK THAT PERSON FROM THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY ENTER THEM INTO THE SYSTEM TO CONTINUING THROUGH THAT HOUSING NAVIGATION. CHAIR. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE SOMEBODY FROM HOUSING FORWARD IS HERE TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. SHE'S COMING HER WAY, IF YOU WOULD ENTERTAIN HER RESPONSE. WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT. THIS IS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR TOMORROW. PLEASE COME TOMORROW. I'M HAPPY TO ASK YOU THIS QUESTION. I JUST, AM NOT SURE. I MEAN, THIS IS A SOLE SOURCE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT OTHER SOURCES THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A BETTER JOB. THANK YOU. ITEM H, UPCOMING AGENDA ITEM TDHCA. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ITEM H HAS TWO AGENDA ITEMS. [01:50:01] ONE, BECAUSE OF THE REJECTING ALL BIDS, WE DID REQUEST A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION TO TDHCA AND WAS GRANTED THAT. SO IN ADDITION, IF THIS CONTRACT WERE TO BE AWARDED, THE FIRST ITEM FOR APPROVAL TOMORROW IS THAT CONTRACT EXTENSION, AND THEN THE SECOND WOULD BE THE CONTRACT WITH THIS PROPOSED VENDOR. WELL, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT TRACK WILL GET FUNDING. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY? OKAY ITEM I, THIS IS FOR A PFC. YOU CAN SEE HOW DESPERATELY IT'S NEEDED WITH ALL THESE OPEN VACANT UNITS. ITEM J, HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION. OKAY, ANOTHER PFC. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL DO LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. OKAY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 10:58. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.