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[Ad Hoc Committee on Administrative Affairs on June 9, 2026.]
IT IS APRIL, UH, JUNE 9TH.THE TIME IS 1 0 8, AND WE ARE CALLING THE AD HOC COMMITTEE OF ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
IS THERE A MOTION? ANY CORRECTIONS? SEEING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM B, SELECTION OF PROCESS FOR THE SEARCH FIRM FOR DALLAS CITY ATTORNEY, SO WE CAN HAVE HR COME UP.
AND SO AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, HR PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION OF FIRMS, UH, AND WE LEFT IT OPEN FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO GIVE SUGGESTIONS ON ANY FIRMS THAT MIGHT NOT BE LISTED.
AND I BELIEVE HR HAS A, HAS NARROWED DOWN THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US.
AFTERNOON, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AM HERE WITH ERICA GUERRERO, WHO'S GOING TO BE PROVIDING THE UPDATE.
HELLO, ERICA GUERRERO, CALLING ACQUISITION MANAGER.
UM, THE LIST PROVIDED THE LAST TIME THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM WAS TWO GROUPS THAT THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE WANTED TO REACH OUT OR FOR US TO REACH OUT TO THE GROUP.
TWO THAT WERE THE ONES THAT WERE MORE VERSED IN GOVERNMENT AND HAD SOME CITY ATTORNEY SPECIALISTS LISTED.
SO WE DID REACH OUT TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY WERE INTERESTED AND AVAILABLE IN PARTICIPATING ON THIS.
UM, FROM THE SEVEN THAT WE HAD LISTED, SIX EXCEPT FOR MOSAIC, THE REST, THE, THE SIX WERE INTERESTED, UM, AVAILABLE.
BUT WE WANTED TO KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IF YOU, WHETHER WANTED TO GO THROUGH AN EXTERNAL SEARCH FIRM OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO WE WANTED TO SEE IF YOU WANTED THEM TO PRESENT PROPOSALS.
DID YOU WANT TO MEET WITH THEM TO REVIEW THEIR PROPOSALS? OR WHAT WAS THE NEXT STEP THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE? OKAY.
UH, THE SIX THAT YOU GUYS, UH, REACHED OUT TO AND ACCEPT, OR SAID THEY WERE INTERESTED, DID Y'ALL NARROW THOSE DOWN IN A, UH, PRIORITY LIST? NO.
UM, THEY ARE ALL, UH, VERSED ON THE GOVERNMENT AND THEY HAVE CITY ATTORNEYS SPECIALTIES, OR HAVE BEEN DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
BUT THEY ARE JUST FOR, FOR YOU TO, TO SEE, UM, WHO YOU WANT TO HEAR PROPOSALS FROM.
UM, I, I, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT SIX IS TOO MANY.
UH, I THINK, UH, I WOULDN'T WANT TO INTERVIEW A TOTAL OF SIX, BUT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, DELSON CHAIR.
I DON'T THINK I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO NARROW 'EM DOWN.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE WE SET UP ANY KIND OF MATRIX OR CRITERIA? THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST A SUMMARY IS THE SYMPTOM THAT WE PROVIDED IN THE MEMO FROM LAST TIME.
WELL, THIS IS, UM, IT'S JUST NOT PARTICULARLY HELPFUL IN MAKING A DECISION.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
UH, NINA, WE CAN GO OVER, UH, THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS AND YOU PROVIDED THE LIST OF, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UH, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS HAVE COPIES OF THAT TO, TO PROVIDE TO US TODAY.
WELL, I GUESS, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
SO WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 FIRMS ON THE SHEET.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER THE 11 FIRMS. NO, THE LAST TIME THAT, UH, WE PRESENTED THIS TO YOU, YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED INSTEAD OF THE 11, 'CAUSE WE GROUPED THEM INTO, RIGHT.
SO THE FIRST GROUP WAS THE LEGAL FIRMS THAT WERE MORE VERSED IN JUST LEGAL POSITIONS, AND THE SECOND GROUP WAS VERSED MORE ON THE MUNICIPALITY OR PUBLIC SECTOR.
SO YOU DECIDED TO DO JUST, OR THAT YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE MORE INTERESTED IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR ONES.
SO THE INSTRUCTION THAT WE RECEIVED WAS FOR US TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND ASK IF THEY WERE AVAILABLE AND INTERESTED IN PRESENTING A PROPOSAL, WHICH WE DID.
AND, UM, ALL OF FROM THE SEVEN SIX ARE INTERESTED.
SO THAT IS, UH, THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAD.
SO YOU ALREADY RULE OUT, RULE OUT THE FIRST, UM, GROUP OF SEARCH FIRMS. OKAY.
WHICH ONES ARE AVAILABLE AND INTERESTED? GROUP TWO.
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EXCEPT MOSAIC.WELL, FOR ME, I WOULD PREFER TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST SPEND SOME TIME LOOKING ON THEIR WEBSITE.
AND, UM, DID THEY OFFER UP WHO SPECIFICALLY IN THE FIRM WOULD BE, UM, LEADING THE SEARCH? WE, UH, FOR EACH ONE, WE, UH, HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION, UM, FROM, FROM THE ONES THAT WERE INTERESTED, BUT WE DIDN'T NARROW IT DOWN BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING ON, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK TO SEE IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE, UM, MAYBE LIKE READ IN PROPOSALS AND THEN AFTER MAYBE MEET WITH THE ONES THAT WERE INTERESTED, UM, TO YOU OR YOU WANNA GO, UM, TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BECAUSE THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD LAST TIME ON THIS ALSO WAS ABOUT MAYBE NOT GOING AT ALL, UH, WITH AN EXTERNAL SEARCH FIRM.
SO WE JUST NEEDED MORE GUIDANCE.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A TARGETED PROPOSAL FROM EVERYBODY, UM, NOT A 60 PAGE DOCUMENT, BUT, UM, VERY SPECIFIC ON, UM, WHAT SEARCHES THEY'VE DONE FOR CITY ATTORNEYS IN TEXAS.
UM, IN THE LAST, LET'S SAY FIVE YEARS, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, A PROFILE OF WHO WOULD BE LEADING THAT SEARCH IF THEY WERE AWARDED THE CONTRACT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, WHAT THEIR GUARANTEE IS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE IT'S A GOOD FIT AND WHAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO TO REPLACE IF IT'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S PRETTY PROBLEMATIC THAT EVEN ON THIS SHEET YOU'VE GOT STRONG DEI FOCUS AS A DESCRIPTOR OF ONE OF THE FIRMS WHEN WE KNOW THAT IS NOT A LEGAL CRITERIA.
SO THERE'S SOME VERY PROBLEMATIC THINGS THAT ARE ON THE SHEET.
AND IF I MAY, THAT IS INFORMATION FROM THE WEBSITE.
SO WE BASICALLY EXTRACT IT FROM THE WEBSITE, HOW THEY REPRESENT THEMSELVES.
YOU ARE SHARING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU ARE LETTING US KNOW THESE ARE THE FIRMS, AND YOU'RE TELLING US THAT THERE'S A FIRM THAT'S VERY DEI FOCUSED.
SO THEN COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO PREFER, PREFER, OR OBJECT WILL MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT INFORMATION.
IT IS ILLEGAL TO DO THAT, BUT WE FOUND, WE BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO YOU RATHER NOT TO ADMIT IT.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE GOING TO BE MAKING A DECISION ON WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND IF THAT IS A CRITERIA YOU WANT TO USE, YOU CAN DO THAT.
SO I, I'M GONNA, UM, DEFINITELY HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEYS, UH, SPEAK WITH YOU, BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GO TO COUNCIL MEMBER DEN SO THEY GET SOME TIME.
IF, IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK THERE AND TALK TO THEM.
I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION.
I MEAN, WE'RE PASSING ALONG A PAPER AND I'M, ALL I HAVE IS A BRIEFING HEADLINE, SO I I I'M AT A LOSS.
SO, UM, THE TASK BEFORE YOU GUYS AT THE LAST MEETING WAS TO REDUCE THE LIST AND TO REACH OUT TO THE LIST THAT YOU PROVIDED, UH, AND TO SEE IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WANTED TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL NAMES.
DID Y'ALL RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL NAMES OR ANY, UH, FEEDBACK? NO, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL NAMES OR FEEDBACK.
AND, AND, AND I WILL SAY, UM, ME, UH, PRO MORENO, I, ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES HERE IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CRITERIA COUNCIL WANTS US TO USE TO NARROW IT DOWN AND DON'T WANT, WE DON'T WANT THE APPEARANCE THAT WE ARE SELECTING FIRMS BASED ON OUR PREFERENCE.
IT'LL BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO GET SOME GUIDANCE ON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BRING IN THE MATRIX OF THE SIX FIRMS. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
IF YOU WOULD PREFER THAT WE NARROW IT DOWN BASED ON OUR CRITERIA AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT, WE'LL DO THAT AS WELL.
SO JUST GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU.
SO HERE, HERE, HERE'S WHERE I'M AT IS WE, WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF MEETING POSSIBLY ONE MORE TIME BEFORE SUMMER RECESS.
UH, I WAS TRYING TO GET THIS OUT THE DOOR, UH, DURING SUMMER RECESS TO ALLOW FOR THE, UH, PROCESS TO BEGIN WHILE WE'RE OUT IN, IN THE SUMMER SESSION.
UM, AND SO WE CAN, WE CAN BRING IT BACK, UM, WITH THE MATRIX AND, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE FROM COUNSEL, BUT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE FIRMS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, UM, HAVE DONE THE CRITERIA SEARCH FOR CITY ATTORNEYS PREVIOUSLY.
I, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANNA SEE, UM, HOW RECENT THAT IS.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, UM, COULD I SUGGEST THAT, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO WORK ON CRITERIA WITH YOU, AND IF WE COULD THEN SHARE THAT PERHAPS
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EVEN LATER THIS WEEK WITH HR, UM, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TIME TO CALL A MEETING, LET'S SAY IN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD THEN GO OUT TO THESE FIRMS AND SAY, THEY WOULD LIKE THIS INFORMATION.YOU COULD PRESENT IT BACK, I MEAN, IN TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU CHAIR, BUT I, I THINK WE WOULD BE, UM, FOOLISH TO TRY TO MAKE A DECISION WITH SO LITTLE INFORMATION.
UH, AND SO FOR THE ATTORNEYS ON, ON COMMUNICATION ON THIS ITEM, CAN COUNCIL MEMBERS WORK DIRECTLY WITH, WITH HR, UM, TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE SEARCH COMMITTEES ON THE SEARCH ROOM? PERFECT.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO ITEM A NOW.
UM, AND SO THIS ITEM IS LONG OVERDUE.
IT'S GOING TO HELP ESTABLISH THE FRAMEWORK FOR PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS AND GOAL SETTINGS FOR OUR COUNCIL APPOINTED OFFICIALS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
SO I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE PROCESS, UH, AND PROVIDED FEEDBACK.
TODAY, WE WILL HAVE A, A HIGH LEVEL REVIEW OF THE PROCE OF THE PROPOSED PROCESS, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE AND, AND FEEDBACK.
AND THE PLAN IS TO COME BACK, UH, BEFORE SUMMER RECESS TO ADOPT SOME FRAMEWORK, UH, ON THESE EVALUATIONS.
AND SO, UH, WE ARE NOW GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO, UH, DR.
LAPORE, WHOSE, UH, TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US TO GET US TO THE POINT THAT WE ARE TODAY.
AND SO, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, A HIGH LEVEL TODAY AND THEN GOING MORE DETAILED AT A FOLLOW UP MEETING.
LAPORE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
AGAIN, THANKS, THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT.
UM, AND FOR THOSE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE INTERVIEWS, THE SURVEYS, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT, UH, BECAUSE WHAT IT DID WAS PROVIDE US WITH, UM, A LOT OF YOUR PERSPECTIVES AND THOSE DISTRICTS THAT, THAT YOU, WHERE YOU SHARED INFORMATION, UM, THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
AND WE ALSO COUPLED THAT INFORMATION WITH, WITH BENCHMARKING AS WELL, AND I'LL GET INTO THAT.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY, UM, WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON TODAY IS PHASE TWO THROUGH PHASE FIVE, UM, OF A PARTNERSHIP ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH YOU ALL THAT, UM, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT CONTINUING.
UM, WE'VE LEARNED A LOT, AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL LEARN A LOT AS WELL AS FAR AS THE INFORMATION THAT WE WE'LL BE SHARING TODAY AND IN SUBSEQUENT, UH, WORKING SESSIONS.
SO, UM, MOVING ON, WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THE SPECIFIC FOCUS OF OUR OVERALL SUMMARY, AND THIS GOES INTO WHAT WE HEARD, WHO PARTICIPATED, AND OUR OVERALL NEXT STEP RECOMMENDATION.
SO OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, 11 WERE INTERVIEWED.
I WILL SAY, WHILE WE WANTED, OBVIOUSLY FOR PARTICIPATION, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DISTRICTS ARE DIFFERENT, UM, THAT IS THE MOST FROM, FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT HAVE EVER BEEN INTERVIEWED TO PROVIDE INPUT INTO THIS PROCESS.
SO WE ARE VERY GLAD ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT DO WANT TO QUALIFY THAT WE HEARD FROM SPECIFICALLY 11 OF THE, THE 14 DISTRICTS, AND I KNOW THE DISTRICTS CAN DIFFER IN IN VARIETY OF WAYS.
UM, 11 SURVEYS WILL RETURN TO US OUT OF THE 14.
AND THE GREAT THING IS THAT A LOT OF THE MESSAGING, A LOT OF THE SENTIMENT WAS CONSISTENT.
SO, UM, THAT WAS REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, VERSUS HAVING CONTRASTING PERSPECTIVES THAT ARE, ARE HIGHLY SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRASTING AND, AND CHALLENGES US AS FAR AS WHAT DIRECTIONS TO RECOMMEND.
THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF CONSISTENCY ACTUALLY, AS FAR AS THE THEMES THAT WE, UM, DISCOVERED WITH, UM, THROUGHOUT THOSE INTERVIEWS AND THEN IN SURVEYS.
AND WHAT WE DID ALSO COURSE WAS LOOK AT INFORMATION THAT WAS PUBLIC TO US ON YOUR WEBSITE, AS WELL AS INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED.
AND THEN AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ALSO DID SOME BENCHMARKING WITH OTHER, UH, SIMILAR CITIES.
UM, WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, OUR GOAL IS FOR NOT DALLAS, JUST TO, UM, MEET THE MARK, BUT WE REALLY WANT YOU TO BE THE LEADER IN THIS SPACE IN TAXES.
SO WHEN YOU HEAR OUR RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
NOW, WHAT WE'RE ALSO DOING IS SUGGESTING SPECIFIC TIMING, ESPECIALLY IN THE LONGER DEBT, UM, THAT IS SHARED.
BUT, UM, I WANNA BE CLEAR, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO GET DALLAS TO BEST PRACTICES, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST AT,
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UM, A A MEDIUM MARKET.SO, SO THAT IS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
UM, SO SPECIFICALLY AS FAR AS HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY WANT VERY CLEAR KPIS, AND THAT'S REALLY GOOD BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONLY FAIR FOR WHAT YOU ALL EXPECT FROM A PERFORMANCE PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT'S ALSO FAIR, UM, TO THE COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, STAFF, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY'RE BEING EVALUATED, WHAT'S EXPECTED, AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND FOR WHAT.
UM, SO CLARITY WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DESIRED AMONG THE
UM, THEY WANT THAT SET BEFORE THE YEAR STARTS AT THIS MEETING.
AND SO WE KNOW THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND WE'LL EXPLAIN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WITH REGARD TO THAT.
UM, BUT DEFINITELY FROM A BEST PRACTICES PERSPECTIVE, THAT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE KPIS, CLEAR WEIGHTS AND RUB RUBRICS BEFORE THE START OF THAT PERFORMANCE EVALUATION YEAR PERIOD.
THEY WANT OFTEN CHECK-INS, WHICH IS ALSO BEST PRACTICES, UM, NOT END OF YEAR SURPRISES FOR ANYONE.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, STAFF MEMBERS WHO RECEIVE ONCE A YEAR FEEDBACK AT THAT POINT.
IT'S TOO LATE FOR THEM TO CORRECT, UM, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
AND THEN IT MAY BE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT YOU WANT IN A LIMITED TIME TO MAKE THEM.
SO NOT ONLY ARE MID-YEAR CHECKPOINT VERY HELPFUL, BUT WE ALSO RECOMMEND QUARTERLY TOUCH POINTS AND IMMEDIATELY, YOU KNOW, AN IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS, IS SEEN IMMEDIATE.
BUT AT THE LEAST, YOU KNOW, WE RECOMMEND QUARTERLY TOUCH POINTS, SO THAT HELPS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE STAFF AS WELL AS BETWEEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS THE STAFF.
AND THEN IT ALSO HELPS THEM TO PIVOT FASTER IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND WE ALSO HEARD A THEME OF CONCERN FOR PROTECTING THE INDEPENDENCE.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, WATCH DOGS, SO TO SPEAK.
AND THAT IS IMPORTANT AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE AS WE GET INTO MORE DETAIL OF THE DECK, BUT WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOCUSED ON WAS KEEPING CONSISTENCY AS FAR AS THE FAIRNESS OF THE EVALUATIONS, BUT ALSO IDENTIFYING THE DIFFERENCES AND THE DIFFERENT FOCUSES THAT EACH ROLE SERVES.
AND SO THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO US TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE VIABLE FOR YOU ALL BENEFICIAL, UH, BUT ALSO REALISTICALLY EXECUTED BY YOU ALL AS WELL.
SO, GOING ON TO LOOKING AT THE, UM, FIVE ROLES AT A GLANCE, SPECIFICALLY, ALL OF THE FIVE ROLES REPORT TO THE COUNCIL.
AND SO THEY ALL HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY TO YOU, BUT THEIR DIFF THEIR JOBS ARE, ARE VERY DIFFERENT AS WE KNOW.
UM, AND SO THEREFORE THEY EACH DESERVE AND NEED THEIR OWN KPIS.
THERE'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SITUATION.
AND SO WE TAKE THAT INTO A VERY CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE, THE CURRENT POLLS THAT EXIST.
SO WE KNOW THE CITY MANAGER RUNS THE OPERATIONS, AND SO THAT IS MAYBE AN ANOMALY OF THE FOUR IN, IN, IN THAT CATEGORY, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE THEN THE OTHER FOUR ARE LARGELY SERVING DIRECTLY THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, VERY IMPORTANTLY, UM, IN A DIRECT MANNER.
AND THEN THERE'S THREE THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED AS THE WATCH DOTS, SO TO SPEAK.
YOU HAVE THIS, THE AUDITOR GENERAL, AS WELL AS THE ATTORNEY.
WE SAW THAT AS ANOTHER SEGMENT THAT LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM SAY, ALL FIVE TOGETHER.
UM, SO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CITY MANAGER, WE WILL GO THERE FIRST BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT TIES INTO ALL OF THE OTHER ONES AND IT MAKES SENSE IN THAT RESPECT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CLEARLY A LARGE STAFF HERE.
UH, 14,000 IS OUR UNDERSTANDING.
3.78, UM, BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET, WHICH IS THE LARGEST SCOPE, YOU KNOW, OF ANY OF THE ROLES.
IT'S A VERY LARGE, AS FAR AS SUCCESSES MADE, 12.2% VIOLENT CRIME DOWN.
SO THAT IS DEFINITELY A SUCCESS.
THE BOND DELIVERY IS ON TRACK.
UH, WHAT WE SAW AS A GAP IS THE 87% VERSUS 90%, UH, TARGET SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE MSS P ONE CALLS.
AND, AND WHILE 3% ON PAPER LOOKED VERY SMALL, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT COULD BE, UM, A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN REAL LIFE AND HOW PEOPLE ARE, ARE IMPACTED.
UM, FIX WHAT THE FIXES THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS QUARTER COUNCIL DISTRICT REPORTING, UM, SO THAT THERE'S MORE ALIGNMENT AND THAT AND, AND LESS AND LESS ADVICE.
UM, I DUNNO IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH QUESTIONS AT THE END, IF, IF NOT, YOU CAN GO ON THE NEXT.
AS FAR AS THE CITY ATTORNEY, UM,
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THE CITY ATTORNEY SPECIFICALLY THE COUNCIL SEES THIS OFFICE AS BEING RELIABLE ON OPINIONS, RELIABLE ON CONTRACTS.UH, WHAT WE SEE AS THE GAP MORE SO IS LACKING SAY A PORTFOLIO VIEW OF ACTIVE MEASURES, UM, OF ACTIVE BANNERS RATHER EXPOSURE AND TRENDS.
SO MORE SO PERHAPS A TRANS MORE TRANSPARENCY AROUND SPECIFICALLY ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND SO I KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PRIVILEGE INFORMATION, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN IT COMES TO NOT THE, JUST THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT ATTORNEYS IN GENERAL.
UM, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS LOOKING MORE SO FROM A SERVICE PERSPECTIVE, IDENTIFYING THE QUALITY, UM, THAT IS PERCEIVED TO BE RENDERED BY THOSE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY IS OFTEN COLLABORATING WITH.
SO THERE COULD BE, SAY A SURVEY, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT IS ADMINISTERED EITHER, UM, BY ANNUALLY OR ANNUALLY, UM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO USE THE CITY ATTORNEY.
AND SO THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN GET SOME INPUT AS FAR AS THE PERCEIVED QUALITY THAT IS RENDERED.
UM, AND I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS STANDARD, UM, WITHIN OTHER PEER TEXAS CITY.
SO THIS ISN'T AN ANOMALY, BUT SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY, UM, USED AND BEST IN CLASS FOR CITY ATTORNEYS.
UM, WITH REGARD TO THE CITY AUDITOR, UH, FROM THAT, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE COLLECTED, UM, THE INDEPENDENT SEEMS SOLID.
THERE SEEMS TO BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY CLEAN REPORTING LINES THERE.
AND FOLLOWING THAT DIRECTION OF A LGA YELLOW BOOK, IT SEEMS CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE, UM, STANDARDS WITHIN THE INDUSTRY.
UM, THE RISK-BASED AUDIT PLAN IS ADOPTED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
THOSE REPORTS ARE PUBLISHED, SO THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY COULD BE A POTENTIAL GAP IS THAT THE UNDERLYING PLAN IS NOT DISCUSSED WITH THE COUNCIL TO OUR KNOWLEDGE.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS COULD ADD, UM, TO THAT TRANSPARENCY INTO THAT DEPTH OF ALIGNMENT AND UNDERSTANDING IF THAT UNDERLYING PLAN IS ALSO SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL.
AND SO A A A FIX FOR THAT WOULD BE TO DO JUST THAT, REALLY SCHEDULING, YOU KNOW, ANNUAL, UH, BRIEFINGS WITH THE COUNCIL AND, AND SHARING THAT WRITTEN PROTOCOL WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AND THE, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL.
UM, THE CITY SECRETARY OFFICE OBVIOUSLY IS RUNNING THE COUNCIL OPERATIONS.
THEY ARE HANDLING, UH, LARGE VOLUME OF OPEN RECORDS, UH, ELECTIONS, UH, BOARDS AND THE COMMISSIONS.
AND THEY'RE STRONG ON MEETING SUPPORT.
THEY'RE SEEN AS VERY STRONG ON THAT.
THEY'RE VERY STRONG ON STATUTORY, UH, STATUTORY COMPLIANCE.
UH, FROM THE PERCEPTION OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, THE GAP THAT SEEMS TO BE SEEN IS THAT THERE ARE PERHAPS SOME ANTIQUATED PROCESSES AS FAR AS HOW DATA IS STORED AND MANAGED.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ORDER RECORDS STILL ARE NOT FULLY DIGITIZED, AND SO THAT MAKES A SEARCH EXPERIENCE REALLY DIFFICULT, REALLY, UM, OUTDATED.
AND, AND IT, IT MAKES THE RESPONSES TAKE LONGER THAN IF THEY WERE IN MORE OF AN, A DIGITIZED AND AUTOMATED FASHION.
UM, SO THE CLEAR FIX FOR THAT WOULD BE TO CREATE A DIGITIZED ROADMAP, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, UM, A DIGITIZATION ROADMAP, FOR EXAMPLE.
HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE AND WHAT ARE THE STEPS THAT IT WILL TAKE IN ORDER TO DIGITIZE AND, AND REALLY BRING UP TO SPEED BEST CLASSES, UH, DIGITIZE RECORDS.
AND THEN THAT ROADMAP, OF COURSE, ALSO WILL GIVE SOME COMFORT TO THOSE WHO ARE SEEKING INFORMATION AND IS TAKING LONG, LONGER UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A PROCESS UNDERWAY TO IMPROVE IT.
SO THE RESPONSE TIME, YOU KNOW, FOR THE KPIS OBVIOUSLY WILL SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE, UH, WITH DIGITIZING THOSE RECORDS.
UM, SO MOVING ON TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.
SO THAT OFFICE RIGHT NOW IS AT 44% OF THE AUTHORIZED STAFF, UM, BASED UPON OUR UNDERSTANDING.
AND SO THAT MEANS SEVEN OF THE 16 SEATS ARE CURRENTLY FILLED, BUT THEN THERE ARE THE OTHER NINE THAT ARE VACANT IT.
SO THAT IS A, A VACANCY PROBLEM.
THANKFULLY IT'S NOT A DESIGN PROBLEM, BUT IT IS A VACANCY PROBLEM.
AND EIGHT OUT OF THE 11 COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY WANT THAT PROTECTED DISCRETION OF THE INSPECTOR JOURNAL GENERAL, HOWEVER, RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE WHEN THEY'RE NOT FULLY STAFFED.
SO OBVIOUSLY THERE SHOULD BE THOSE INDEPENDENCE GUARDRAILS THAT ARE ADAPTED, UM, AS WELL AS SOME TYPE OF ANNUAL OUTCOME REPORT REALLY TRACKING, UM, THEIR ABILITY TO STAFF AND, AND JUST ENABLING THEM TO STAFF IN A WAY THAT IS HEALTHY FOR THE CITY.
SO AS FAR AS OTHER ITEMS THAT WE WOULD
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LIKE TO REALLY POINT OUT TO YOU, YOU CAN GO ON TO, UM, THE NEXT MM-HMMUM, SO DEFINITELY WANT TO ENSURE THAT THESE METRICS ARE UNDERSTOOD TO BE OBJECTIVELY RENDERED TO YOU.
UM, BEST PRACTICES, UH, METRICS, THESE ARE METRICS THAT WE WANT YOU TO OBVIOUSLY APPROVE OF, BUT ENSURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT, WE'RE URGING ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYONE INVOLVED TO BE OBJECTIVE AND NOT CHERRY PICK THE METRICS.
UM, THE WAY WE RECOMMEND THEM ARE BASED, AS I SAID, ON THE PERFORMANCES THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT FOR DALLAS AS WELL AS BEST PRACTICES, PERFORMANCES IN OTHER CARE CITIES.
UM, DEFINITELY URGING AS FAR AS INDEPENDENCE GUARDRAILS FOR THOSE TO BE ADOPTED UP FRONT BECAUSE IT'S AN, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE SORT OF THOSE WATCHDOG, UM, ENTITIES SO TO SPEAK, PROTECTED THEIR INDEPENDENCE PROTECTED SO THAT THEY CAN PROTECT OVERALL THE CITY AND, AND ULTIMATELY THE CONSTITUENTS.
AS FAR AS CYCLES OF MIDYEAR CHECK, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DEFINITELY MANDATORY.
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WOULD EVEN RECOMMEND, IF NOT MANDATORY, BUT DEFINITELY HIGHLY RECOMMEND A QUARTERLY CHAT.
AND THEN FROM A SCORING PERSPECTIVE, STAYING WITHIN THE RUBRICS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, THAT ARE ADVISED, UH, SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE EVALUATION, IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR, UM, YOU TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IS, IS USING THOSE SAME RUBRICS AS FAR AS SCORING, AND THEY'RE FOLLOWING IT IN A WAY, UM, THAT REFLECTS DISCIPLINE.
'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY KEY FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION TO ENSURE THAT OBJECTIVITY AS WELL AS THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE.
UM, SO IT CAN GO ON TO THE LOOKING AT THE PEER CITIES.
SO I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY HIGHLIGHT, WE DID NOT JUST LOOK AT THESE CITIES, WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AS WELL, UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY TEXAS, JUST LIKE OTHER STATES, HAVE UNIQUE NEEDS AND, UM, UNIQUE SCENARIOS.
SO WE THOUGHT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT MADE SENSE TO SPECIFICALLY HIGHLIGHT THE OTHER CITIES WITHIN TEXAS.
AND SO THE FOUR THAT WE FOCUSED ON WERE HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO, AUSTIN, AND FORT WORTH.
SO WHILE NONE OF THESE ARE EXACTLY LIKE DALLAS, THEY STILL HAVE THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PROS AND CONS.
SO THAT HELPS US TO SEE WHAT SIMILAR, WHAT SIMILARITIES DO CROSS IN ADDITION TO, JUST, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THEM ALSO BEING WITHIN TEXAS, UM, ONE THING WE FOUND IS THEY ALL HAVE PUBLIC PERFORMANCE DASHBOARDS OR RUBRICS.
SO THAT TRANSPARENCY WAS THERE.
UM, FOURTH WARD SPECIFICALLY, THEY HAVE THE FW STAT, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST ANALOG TO WHAT DALLAS IS DOING WITH SCORE DALLAS.
UM, DALLAS, I WILL SAY ALREADY HAS A STRONG INFRASTRUCTURE WITH REGARD TO THE SEVEN PILLARS, THE 35 MEASURES.
UM, HOWEVER, WHAT WE DO SEE, UM, IS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF A LINK BETWEEN THE SCORE DALLAS TO THE EXECUTION OF THE EVALUATION.
AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL CREATE A BROADER UNDERSTANDING, UM, BROADER ALIGNMENT AND APPRECIATION OF THAT TRANSPARENCY AND UNDERSTANDING AND EXPECT EXPECTATION ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO AS FAR AS SCORING, THESE ARE THE TIERS THAT WE SPECIFICALLY ARE RECOMMENDING, AND THEY'RE NOT CONCRETE PARKED IN STONE, BUT THEY ALSO, I WILL SAY, ARE NOT ARBITRARY.
SO WE DID GIVE SIGNIFICANT THOUGHT AS FAR AS WHAT SHOULD GO INTO THE SCORING MODEL.
AND SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE WANTED TO LOOK AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF THE WEIGHT WITHIN THE SCORING.
SO LIKE 25% WILL LOOK MORE SO AT THAT BIG PICTURE, THAT VISIONING STRATEGY CAPABILITY, WHEREAS 55% IS LOOKING MORE SO AT THE DAY-TO-DAY, UM, OPERATIONS.
AND 20% IS LOOKING AT CONDUCT BEHAVIOR, THE VALUES.
AND I FIND THAT 20% I WANT TO POINT OUT TO BE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE REASON WHY I WOULD LIKE TO ESPECIALLY POINT IT OUT IS BECAUSE THIS IS ONE THAT CAN BE MISSED FROM TIME TO TIME.
AND THEN YOU FIND COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU FIND CONSTITUENTS LOOKING AT THE
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PERFORMANCE AND THEN HAVING MAYBE VALUE CONDUCT ISSUES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PERFORMANCE AND NOT KNOWING HOW TO ADDRESS IT IN A WAY THAT'S IMMEDIATE AND OBJECTIVE.UM, SO WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND INCLUDING CONDUCT THAT THOSE VALUE BEHAVIORS, SO TO SPEAK, WITHIN THE OVERALL SCORING MODEL.
UM, FIVE POINT SCALES ARE TRIED AND TRUE.
UM, THESE ARE BEST PRACTICES RECOMMENDED IN ALL ASPECTS OF PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.
UH, WE FIND THAT IT LENDS ITSELF TO GIVE ENOUGH VARIETY WITHIN THE UNDERSTANDING OF NOT ONLY THE CONSTITUENTS, BUT UM, AND, AND THE STAFF MEMBERS, UH, BUT ALSO THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, EVEN OUTSIDE OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS.
FIVE POINT SCALE IS THAT BEST PRACTICE TO PROVIDE A HEALTHY RANGE WITHOUT ARRANGING TOO LARGE.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY NEED TO IMPROVE THINGS OF THAT NATURE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME UNDERSTAND, UM, WHERE THEY CAN, WHERE THEY CAN GO AND WHERE THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN.
UH, SO WE LOOK AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF HAVE THEY MISSED THE GOALS? YOU KNOW, HAVE THEY, UM, BEEN MAYBE RIGHT AT THAT THRESHOLD, BUT THEY'RE UNDER THE TARGET, UM, ARE THEY TARGETING THE GOALS? YOU KNOW, ARE THEY HITTING THOSE TARGETS? AND THEN ARE THEY ABLE TO STRETCH BEYOND THE TARGETS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT TO SEE, ESPECIALLY OVER TIME.
AND THEN THERE'S THAT STRETCH PLUS, SO THAT'S GOING EVEN FURTHER BEYOND WHAT SOME MIGHT CALL EXCELLENCE, SO TO SPEAK.
SO FROM THE KPIS PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE SUGGESTING FIVE TO EIGHT KPIS PER ROLE.
SO LIKE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL SEE STRATEGIC, SOME STRATEGIC, UM, KI GOALS, SOME OPERATIONAL, MOST OF THEM OPERATIONAL, AND THEN A COUPLE OF CONDUCT, YOU KNOW, JUST BASICALLY ALIGNING WITH THE, UM, RATIO THAT I JUST EXPLAINED EARLIER.
SO AS FAR AS UPCOMING SESSIONS, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD IS TO CONTINUE.
RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS MORE OF A, I GUESS, KICKOFF, SO TO SPEAK, OF WHAT WE FOUND, UM, THIS READOUT.
WHAT WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE INTO NEXT WEEK IS AKA REAL KPI BUILD REVIEW.
UM, SO THE MORE EXHAUSTIVE DECK WE DO PROVIDE MORE DETAILS REGARDING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT.
AND WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS REALLY HAVE A VERY HARDY WORKING SESSION, UM, NEXT WEEK TO SOLIDIFY AND ALIGN ON WHAT THOSE KPIS SHOULD BE, WHAT THEY SHOULD LOOK UP LIKE, AND TO HELP YOU BUILD, UM, VERY ROBUST, SOLID FRAMEWORKS AROUND THEM.
UH, SO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'D BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HEAR ANY INPUTS THAT YOU HAVE THAT WE CAN BRING TO THAT SESSION, UH, TO MAKE IT AS HIGHLY UTILIZED AND VALUABLE AS POSSIBLE FOR YOU ALL WE MEET AND TO BE ABLE TO FINALIZE THOSE KB KPIS.
UH, THEN WE'D LIKE TO GO INTO CALIBRATION AS, AS FAR AS, UM, CALIBRATING AS FAR AS WHAT THOSE MEASURES ARE, HOW THEY'LL BE USED, AND HOW THEY ARE LOOKED AT TODAY, AND THEN ULTIMATELY GOING INTO THE ADOPTION OF THIS OVERALL PROGRAM.
SO THE OUTPUTS THAT WE'D LIKE YOU TO RECEIVE ULTIMATELY IS THE SET OF THE KPIS ON THE ADOPTED RUBRIC, AS WELL AS AN OVERALL PLAN AS FAR AS HOW TO ROLL OUT WITH THE OFFICIALS, THESE, UH, MIDYEAR DISCUSSIONS, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY EVALUATIONS.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU KNOW, OUR, ESSENTIALLY OUR 90 DAY ROADMAP THAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
YOU COULD SEE THAT IN INTO MORE DETAIL, UH, GOING FORWARD.
AND THAT IS ONE THAT WILL INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE ALIGNMENT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ON THE K KPIS AND THE FRAMEWORK, UH, BUT THEN ALSO GOING INTO SOME OF THAT MEASUREMENT AND THEN WANTING TO FULLY EXECUTE AND FULLY PUBLISH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE ALIGNED ON.
AND TO THE EXTENT EVEN OF THE LEVEL OF THAT PUBLISHING IS SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY WILL REQUIRE ALIGNMENT ALSO.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE I'LL STOP 'CAUSE I WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
LAPORE, THANK YOU FOR PREPARING THIS.
UM, SHE HAD ACTUALLY PREPARED A MUCH MORE IN DEPTH, UH, PRESENTATION, BUT I ASKED HER TO, UM, KEEP IT, UH, TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SLIDES.
SO THANK YOU FOR PUTTING ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER.
AND SO AGAIN, TODAY IS, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UH, MAKE SURE WE ARE ON TARGET.
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LAPORE, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW YOU ARRIVED TO THE POINT YOU ARE TODAY? I KNOW THAT YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AND REACHED OUT TO, UH, ALL MY COLLEAGUES FOR ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS.UM, HOW DID THAT GO? UH, WAS THAT HELPFUL IN, UH, DEVELOPING THE FRAMEWORK? YES, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
SO THE INTERVIEWS, WE INTENTIONALLY HAD ONE INTERVIEWER FOR ALL OF THE INTERVIEWS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY IN HOW SHE ASKED THE QUESTIONS.
ALL THE SAME QUESTIONS WERE ASKED TO ALL OF THE, THE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS HOW SHE PROBED NOW IS CHRISTINE BECK.
SHE IS A FORMER, UM, CRO, UM, MULTIPLE TIMES.
AND HER SPECIALIZED AREA IS PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS.
UM, SO SHE'S BEEN REALLY GOOD IN SUPPORTING US ON THAT.
UM, FROM THE 11 THAT SHE MET WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS REALLY GOOD.
YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, TO OBTAIN THAT FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THOSE 11 MEMBERS, WE DID TRY VERY, UM, MUCH TO ALIGN SCHEDULES, UM, WITH ALL 14 AND, AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, UM, UM, MAYOR PRO TIM MORENO, WE EXTENDED THE TIME PERIOD A FEW TIMES SO THAT WE COULD HOPEFULLY GET THAT, THAT FULL, UM, RESPONSE LEVEL WHILE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE FULL 14.
WE ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE 11 PARTICIPATING, UM, IN THE INTERVIEWS AS WELL AS 11 PARTICIPATING IN THE SURVEYS.
WELL, UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WENT INTO THIS.
I KNOW THAT TIMING WAS ONE OF THE CRITIQUES FROM COLLEAGUES, SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE MIDYEAR CHECK-IN.
I THINK THAT'S, UH, THAT'S GREAT.
AND, UH, ESTABLISHING THE KPIS AND, AND THE RUBRIC AND THE DASHBOARD.
AND SO AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN IT UP, UH, TO COUNCIL MEMBER ENA.
SO I NOTICED THAT IT HAS A TIMELINE HERE.
IS THIS SCHEDULED TO GO TO COUNCIL BREAKING ON THE 17TH? SO ON THE 17TH IT'S SCHEDULED TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR US TO ADOPT THE, UM, UH, WELL, IT SAYS FULL COUNCIL HERE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
AND THEN IT SAYS, FULL COUNCIL ADOPTS THE FRAMEWORK FOR JUNE, 2026.
SO MY, MY INTENT WAS FOR IT TO COME BACK TO THIS, UH, COMMITTEE FOR US TO REVIEW AND ADOPT THOSE SO THAT FULL COUNCIL CAN, UH, ADOPT THOSE AFTER THAT.
BUT IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEES.
SO, SO THEN THIS TIMELINE IS NOT ACCURATE.
UH, SO JUNE, 2026, WALK COUNCIL THROUGH THE BINDINGS, ONE AND A HALF HOURS FOR COUNCIL JUNE, 2026, SESSION TWO, COUNCIL OFFICER FRAMEWORK, THREE HOURS FOR COUNCIL.
OKAY, YES, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
UM, AND SO I MEAN, YES, IT, IT WOULD COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE AND WHAT WOULD BE PRESENTED AT THIS COMMITTEE THEN.
SO IT, TO THE HOPE THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN THIS, I GUESS THE, THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE IF THERE'S ANY FEEDBACK TODAY, ANY, ANY CHANGES, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, DR.
LAPORE IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'RE, LOOK, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, FEEDBACK TODAY SO THAT WHEN WE COME BACK, WE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT A FINAL VERSION.
SO THIS IS, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION.
IF THERE'S ANY CORRECTIONS, ANY FEEDBACK, ANY EDITS, THEN THEY WOULD COME BACK, UH, GATHER ALL THAT INFORMATION AND, UH, PUT IT INTO THE, UH, INTO THE, UM, FRAMEWORK.
UH, BUT IF THERE'S NO RECOMMENDATION, UH, OR ANY EDIT, THEN IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE THE SAME FRAMEWORK THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TODAY, MOVE TO COUNCIL.
UM, YEAH, SO THE, YEAH, SO THE FRAMEWORK TODAY IS, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THIS THE RIGHT DIRECTION? AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE AS, AS MAYOR PO MENTIONED, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE, UM, INFORMATION AS FAR AS THE KPIS, MORE DETAIL AROUND RECOMMENDED KPIS.
AND THEN MY EXPECTATION AT LEAST NEXT WEEK IS WHEN WE WOULD LOOK AT THOSE INTO MORE, IN MORE DEPTH, UM, AND HELP TO, TO GUIDE THAT DISCUSSION AS FAR AS THOSE KPIS, ARE THEY THE RIGHT ONES AND, AND ARE THEY APPROPRIATELY DEVELOPED FOR THE NEEDS OF DALLAS? SO IS THERE ANOTHER MEETING NEXT WEEK? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT ON MY CALENDAR.
UM, BUT BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM TODAY, WE, WE WOULD SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING, AND THE REASON WE WOULD DO THAT IS TO TRY TO GET THESE, UH, MIDYEAR CHECK-INS, UH, IN A, UM, WHEN WE GET BACK FROM COUNCIL,
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LISA.SO IT'S THROUGH, I DID SEE ONE, CORRECT ON 13.
THERE'S A TYPO UNDER TIER TWO, IT WE SHOULD SAY THROUGHOUT.
AND THEN IF YOU CAN COME BACK, IS THAT FOR ME? I'M, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT IF IT WAS FOR ME JUST TO MAKE SURE? YEAH, THERE'S A TYPO.
ONE 13 UNDER TIER TWO, DAY-TO-DAY PERFORMANCE.
I THINK THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THROUGHOUT AND THEN BUDGET, DISCIPLINE.
WELL, UM, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHEN WAS OUR CONSULTANT HIRED, UH, NEXT GEN PEOPLE? IS THERE ANYONE WHO COULD CHAIR THAT, REPEAT THAT? WHEN THE CONSULTANT WAS HIRED NEXT GEN PEOPLE, DR.
LAPORE, DO YOU KNOW WHEN WE, UH, CONTRACTED WITH, UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATE OFFHAND WHEN THAT CONTRACT WAS EXECUTED, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK UP THE SPECIFIC DATES FOR YOU.
I DON'T RECALL THOSE SPECIFIC DATES OFFHAND.
I DON'T HAVE THAT IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THEM.
WELL, I'M JUST GONNA SAY THAT, UM, WHEN WE HIRED OUR CITY MANAGER AS AN INTERIM, IT WAS FEBRUARY 27TH, 2024, TWO YEARS AND FOUR MONTHS AGO, AND WE HIRED HER PERMANENTLY.
IT WAS JANUARY 25TH, 2025, A YEAR AND FIVE MONTHS AGO.
AND I BELIEVE ON YOUR SCHEDULE, WE ARE EXPECTED TO DO A, A HORN REVIEW IN NOVEMBER.
IS THAT RIGHT? THE SCHEDULE, UM, INITIALLY WAS SCHEDULED YES TO, TO, I BELIEVE IN, IN NOVEMBER.
SO GUESS THAT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IS THE GOAL.
AND YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE HOPE IS FOR, FOR US TO KEEP THAT SCHEDULE.
SO AS I HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY AND IN DETAIL AT OTHER MEETINGS, I OBJECT TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
THIS TO ME IS, UM, OVERLY BUREAUCRATIC.
IT PROLONGS THE NECESSARY FEEDBACK THAT OUR EMPLOYEES DESERVE ON TIME, AND IT DELAYS ACCOUNTABILITY.
AND WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT WE CAN FIND ON ALL OF THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATIONS FOR THESE POSITIONS.
SO IN THE CITY MANAGER'S CASE, THE ICMA HAS A TEMPLATE FOR DOING A PERFORMANCE REVIEW, AND WE CAN MODIFY IT TO ADD IN SPECIFIC MEASUREMENTS IF WE'D LIKE.
BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS IF WE USE THAT TEMPLATE THAT THERE'S A FAIRNESS THAT IT WASN'T DESIGNED FOR ONE INDIVIDUAL, IT'S USED ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT THERE'S A NATIONAL STANDARD FOR IT, THERE'S A LOWER COST FOR IT, THERE'S A FOCUS NOT ON THE EMPLOYEE, BUT ON, ON THE EMPLOYEE FORM, BUT ON THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO USE THOSE FORMS FOR EVERYBODY.
I, I STARTED MY CAREER IN HUMAN RESOURCES.
AND I WILL SAY AS I LISTEN TO THIS, I THINK WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN, I WOULD BE DOING IF I HAD CONTINUED IN THAT CAREER, BUT I THINK ANY REASONABLE PERSON HEARS THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND SAYS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT'S WRONG WITH GOVERNMENT, AND I DO NOT WANNA PROCEED WITH THIS.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT AND USE THE TEMPLATE FORM FROM ICMA AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL ASSOCIATIONS.
SO I, I, I'M GONNA HAVE TO DISAGREE.
UM, AND, AND IF YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S LISTED AS A MOTION OR NOT.
BUT THIS ITEM, UH, HAD OPPORTUNITIES FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PROVIDE DIRECT FEEDBACK.
THAT FEEDBACK SHOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, GIVEN AT THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AND I DON'T BELIEVE YOU MET ONE-ON-ONE
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WITH THE, UH, THE CONSULTANT TO GIVE THAT GUIDANCE AND THAT FEEDBACK.I DID MEET WITH THE CONSULTANT AND I DID THE SURVEY.
I DO NOT THINK THIS IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO THIS.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S BE FAST, IT'S JUST, IT'S TROUBLESOME, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, EXP EXPECTANCY TO MAKE THIS PROCESS GO FASTER.
BUT WHAT I SEE IS DELAYING THIS, AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS LET'S MAKE THIS NOT, UH, SPECIFIC TO DALLAS.
THEN I HEAR, UH, LET'S, LET'S DO IT MORE GLOBAL.
AND SO I I, I'M A LITTLE BIT LOST ON HOW TO PROCEED.
UM, SO, AND BEFORE I GO TO YOU, I'M GONNA, UH, CALL ON CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
I DON'T, UH, I'M GONNA CALL IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
SO THE CITY MANAGERS, ACCORDING TO THE CITY, UH, ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN THE DIRECTOR OF HR, UH, ACCORDING TO HER, THE CITY MANAGER'S CONTRACT, HER PERFORMANCE REVIEW WAS DUE IN APRIL, UH, OF THIS YEAR.
SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON RECORD, BUT I, I, I THINK SHE ALSO WANTED TO, UH, FIND OUT WHEN THE FIRM WAS CONTRACTED.
IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS NOVEMBER 12TH, 2025.
UH, MADAM CHAIR PENDELTON, AS I SAID, EVEN WHEN WE DID THIS, I THINK IT'S OUTRAGEOUS TO WAIT AN ENTIRE YEAR TO DESIRE TO DESIGN A FORM TO DO A PERFORMANCE REVIEW.
AND AT A MINIMUM, WE COULD IMMEDIATELY DO A TOUCH POINT WITH, AGAIN, THE TEMPLATE FORM THAT'S AVAILABLE ON ICMA.
WE COULD ADD IN PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES, WE COULD ADD IN CAPITAL PROJECT, UM, DELIVERING.
BUT THIS COVERS ALL THE BASICS OF RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER RELATIONSHIP WITH EMPLOYEES.
WE COULD ADD IN RETENTION AND VACANCY METRICS, PUBLIC RELATIONS.
WE COULD ADD IN 3 1 1 METRICS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE PERFORMANCE, INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS.
WE COULD OF COURSE ADD IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, WE COULD ADD IN SOME BUDGET PERFORMANCE METRICS, ORGANIZATIONAL MANAGEMENT, PERSONAL CHARACTERISTICS, SUMMARY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
I MEAN, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE HARD.
WE COULD DO IT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, AND WE SHOULD, WE DESPERATELY SHOULD, WITH ALL THESE ISSUES FACING THE CITY TO HAVE NOT GIVEN ANY FORMAL FEEDBACK TO OUR CITY MANAGER, LET ALONE THE OTHER POSITIONS, IS ABSOLUTELY A DERELICTION OF OUR DUTY.
AND HOLDING THIS TO NOVEMBER IS TO DESIGN SOME, YOU KNOW, GOLD-PLATED EVALUATION FORM THAT WON'T ADD ANYTHING TO THE FACT THAT SHE JUST NEEDS TO HEAR FROM US AND HAVE SOME STRUCTURED COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK.
THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS OFF THE RAILS.
AND I'M SORRY, I HAVE SAID THIS AT EVERY MEETING.
I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY NOT VERY WELL RECEIVED LAST TIME EITHER, BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, NOT ONE OF US WAS EVEN REALLY PAYING ATTENTION WHEN SHE WAS SPEAKING.
THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO GET OUR WORK DONE IN AN EFFECTIVE MANNER.
THIS IS CREATING ADDITIONAL BUREAUCRACY, AND I DON'T WANNA BE PART OF IT.
I THINK THIS IS THE WRONG WAY TO GO.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONCEPT WAS DEFINITELY TO CREATE A, A FRAMEWORK TO HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK OFF MOVING FORWARD FOR THIS COUNCIL FOR FUTURE COUNCILS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A LAUNCHING PAD ON THE EVALUATIONS.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A MID-YEAR CHECK-IN WITH OUR, UH, DIRECT HIRES IN, IN AUGUST, UH, WHICH IS JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, NEXT MONTH OR TWO MONTHS, A MONTH AND A HALF.
AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER,
I MEAN, CERTAINLY I'M LIKE, HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THIS DONE IF WE SEND THIS BACK TO COMMITTEE, AND THEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL BRIEFING AND THEN GO TO FULL COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE, WHERE I'M AT, BUT I DON'T SEE, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY, I'M, I'M JUST READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS SO THAT WE CAN GET, GET THE US GOING.
I THINK IT'S MAYBE TIME TO GET, UM, FEEDBACK FROM THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
UM, AND, AND I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
UH, I'M GETTING THAT FEEDBACK.
SO AS WE KNOW, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, ARE ALL NON COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE IN IN THESE MEETINGS.
UM, DO WE NEED THE FRAMEWORK TO BE ADOPTED BY THE ENTIRE COUNCIL? I, LET'S SEE, ATTORNEY'S OFFICES COMING UP.
I EMPOWER CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, YES, BUT THIS BODY JUST MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL, AND SO IT'S A COUNCIL WITHIN
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POSITIONS.UM, AND OUR NEXT COUNCIL, UH, VOTING, WE DO, WE HAVE ONE MORE VOTING AGENDA.
UM, AND I'LL GO TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND, DR.
LAPORE, UM, I, IF THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK, UH, WE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE A, A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS TODAY AND SEND IT TO FULL COUNSEL, UH, FOR THAT JUNE 24TH MEETING.
I JUST WANTED TO, UM, JUST CLARIFY THE DATES, LOOKING MORE CLOSELY AT THE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS OF CONCERN.
UM, SO I WANNA CLARIFY FOR US, YOU KNOW, AS WE RECOMMENDED BEFORE, WE DO NOT ENCOURAGE YOU TO PUT OFF GIVING FEEDBACK TO THE STAFF.
LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE DOING BASED UPON EARLIER CONVERSATIONS OF EXPECTATIONS, AND THAT'S BEST PRACTICES TO HAVE THOSE REGULAR CONVERSATIONS.
SO WE DEFINITELY DO NOT WANT YOU TO WAIT UNTIL, AND DEFINITELY NOT NOVEMBER TO GIVE THEM FEEDBACK.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE ALSO HAD SCHEDULED IN A MIDYEAR PROGRESS TOUCHPOINT SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT, UM, IDEALLY IN JUNE, WHERE YOU ARE GIVING THEM, UM, NOT ONLY FEEDBACK BASED UPON WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THEM AS FAR AS EXPECTATIONS, BUT ALSO GIVING THEM A PREVIEW OF THIS IS WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE IN LIGHT OF NEW ENHANCED KPIS.
UM, SO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS VERY CLEAR.
NOVEMBER IS THE DATE SPECIFICALLY OF THE CONFIRMATION, THE CLOSEOUT OF THEIR FORMAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS OF THE YEAR SPECIFICALLY.
THAT SHOULD NOT BE THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING INFORMATION REGARDING THIS, UM, OR FEEDBACK OR, OR INPUTS.
UM, AND THEN I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE, IF YOU DON'T MIND A BIT ON THE BENCHMARKING SPECIFICALLY, UM, THAT BENCHMARKING.
I KNOW, I KNOW, UM, COUNCILMAN MENDELSON, SHE MENTIONED, UM, ICMA AND I, I WANT TO ADVISE HER AND THE ENTIRE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE USE ICMA, HOWEVER, ICMA IS A VERY BROAD COOKIE CUTTER STROKE, SO TO SPEAK.
AND WHAT WE PREPARED IS SOMETHING THAT IS MORE CUSTOMIZED AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP DALLAS TO NOT JUST CHECK A BOX, BUT REALLY BE A BEST PRACTICE CITY AS IT RELATES TO HOLDING THAT ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AS WELL AS TO THE STATE OF D UM, TEXAS, LOOKING AT SPECIFICALLY WHAT THOSE OTHER, UH, PEER CITIES ARE DOING.
SO OUR APPROACH WAS TO TAKE THAT BENCHMARK GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE, AS WELL AS THE LOCAL CUSTOMIZED PERSPECTIVE THAT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU LONG-TERM ADOPTION VERSUS JUST ONE EXERCISE.
UM, AND I ALSO WANTED TO JUST CORRECT, UM, WITHOUT DUE RESPECT, UM, OUR STAFF MEMBERS DID NOT GET, UM, WERE, WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN AN INTERVIEW WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON.
I I, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND, AND THE COMMUNICATION I RECEIVED THAT WAS DENIED, DECLINED.
UM, SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO CONDUCT THAT INTERVIEW WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON.
UM, I'LL GO TO CHAIR MENDELSON, AND THEN, UH, UH, AND THEN I THINK YOU HAVE A MOTION HERE IN A MINUTE.
OKAY, WELL, I AM UNWAVERING IN MY POSITION, BUT IF IT WAS TO GO FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO ASK IF YOU HAVE THESE SPECIFIC ITEMS INCLUDED.
DO YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES AS A KPI? WE DO HAVE SOME, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, OUTCOMES AS KPIS.
CAN YOU READ IT TO US, WHAT THAT IS? UM, I WOULD'VE TO PULL UP THE LARGER DECK.
AND SO YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW HE WANTED MORE OF A, A HIGH LEVEL.
AND I WANT TO CLARIFY AS WELL, THIS IS A COLLABORATION, SO WE'RE NOT CAST IN STONE.
IF THERE ARE ANY KPIS THAT YOU WANT, WE CAN HELP TO, UM, TO CREATE THOSE, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THERE'S ALIGNMENT AMONGST THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I'LL PULL OUT THE LARGER DECK AND FIND THOSE.
SO IF YOU COULD POINT OUT SPECIFICALLY THE PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES, THE CAPITAL PROJECT DELIVERY OUTCOMES, DO YOU HAVE A KPI FOR THAT? THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT? IT'S, IT'S 73 PAGES.
SO JUST GIVE ME, I HAVE SOME PATIENCE, PLEASE, WHILE I REVIEW AND LOOK THROUGH TO FIND THOSE.
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LOOKING FOR BUDGET, PERFORMANCE, CAPITAL, PROJECT DELIVERY, PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES, RESPONSIVENESS TO COUNCIL, EMPLOYEE RETENTION AND VACANCIES, UH, 3 1 1, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND STRATEGIC PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.ASSUMING WE HAD A STRATEGIC PLAN, I DIDN'T, CAN YOU REPEAT THOSE OR CAN WE GO ONE AT A TIME? BECAUSE I CANNOT LOOK FOR ALL OF THOSE AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT AS FAR AS THE CATEGORIES THAT WE HAD COVERED, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY WAS ONE.
AND LIKE I SAID, IN THE, AT LEAST FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, WE HAVE A WORKING SESSION NEXT WEEK, UM, TO MORE FINALIZE THE KPIS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SPECIFICALLY.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE, SO YEAH, SO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'RE GIVING RIGHT NOW, CHAIRMAN MIDDLETON ARE PERFECT.
THAT THAT'S THE, THE FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE I WAS LOOKING FOR.
UM, AND THEN I, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, MEASURES ARE ALREADY IN THERE, BUT IF WE NEED TO, TO TAILOR THEM MORE SPECIFICALLY, THEN THE PLAN WAS FOR THAT TO COME BACK TO NEXT WEEK'S COMMITTEE TO, UH, CLEAN IT UP.
BUT, BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
SO WHAT PAGE WOULD THAT BE ON? I'M NOT SEEING THAT.
SO THE PAGES OF THIS, WELL, THE DETAILED KPI THAT WE PROPOSED ARE IN A LARGER DECK, UM, IN SLIDES 44, 43 RATHER THROUGH 48.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF, OKAY, WELL WE ONLY HAVE THROUGH PAGE 16.
AND, AND THAT WAS AT MY REQUEST.
UH, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THE ORIGINAL, UH, DECK WAS, UM, HOW MANY PAGES, DR.
UH, AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS, BUT WE WILL PASS OUT THAT, UH, UH, FULL DECK OUT HERE MOMENTARILY TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS IT WELL, AGAIN, AND THEN THAT WAY, IF THERE ARE ANY, THAT ANY, AS YOU REVIEW THOSE KPIS, UM, NOT JUST COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR ALL OF YOU, IF YOU SEE KPIS THAT YOU FEEL LIKE SHOULD BE ON HERE THAT ARE MISSING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SEND US THAT INFORMATION, SEND INFORMATION, AND THEN THAT WAY NEXT WEEK WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE INCORPORATED AND MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN MORE COMPREHENSIVE.
BUT RESPECTFULLY, WHAT IS THE POINT OF HAVING A CONSULTANT IF I'M DOING, IF WE'RE SENDING IN WHAT THE KPI SHOULD BE? WELL, I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEND THAT AND KPIS THAT ARE MISSING.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE OPEN AND FLEXIBLE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT EVERYONE'S PERSPECTIVES ARE DIFFERENT.
AND SO, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ONCE YOU'RE ABLE TO REVIEW ALL THE KPIS, UM, YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY'RE, RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COMBINE ALL OF THEM OVER 50, BUT FOR EACH ONE SPECIFICALLY, LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT EIGHT KPIS PER ROLE.
AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'LL EVEN NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THE KPIS THAT YOU RECOMMEND.
SO WE MIGHT TELL YOU WE, WE DISAGREE THAT THAT'S A KPI THAT WE SHOULD INCORPORATE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT.
AND IF THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU ALL DECIDE, THEN WE CAN ADD IT.
BUT I'M NOT ASSUMING THAT YOU'RE ADDING ANY THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
BUT IN THAT EVENT, WE ARE DEFINITELY OPEN AND FLEXIBLE TO ACCOMMODATE.
I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO REVIEW A 77 PAGE SLIDE DECK AT 2 0 7 ON THE DAY BEFORE WEDNESDAY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I MEAN, THIS IS VERY FRUSTRATING.
AND SO THE, THE JUST CLARITY IS, AND WE'RE OPEN TO THIS ON A BRIEFING COMING, UH, TO FULL COUNSEL OR HAVING THIS, UH, BROUGHT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE NEXT WEEK.
OKAY, SO, SO I'M JUST WONDERING THE PLAN TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE ON THE 16TH, WAS IT GONNA GO TO, FOR A BRIEFING ON THE 17TH FOR FULL COUNSEL AND THEN GO TO COUNSEL ON THE 24TH? IS, WAS THAT THE PLAN? UM, SURE.
AND, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WHERE IT SAYS FULL COUNSEL THAT THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON THERE.
SO THE PLAN WAS FOR US TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TODAY AND FOR IT TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE
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AND NOT HAVE A FULL, UH, COUNCIL BRIEFING, BUT IT WOULD GO TO THE, UH, THAT FINAL VOTING AGENDA ITEM.DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? MOTION? ALRIGHT, THE, UH, TIME IS 2 0 8 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.