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          OKAY. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED WITH THE BRIEFING FOR TODAY'S, UH, CITY PLAN COMMISSION. 
          I BELIEVE WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          UM, LILIANA, YOU WANNA TAKE, THIS WEBINAR IS BEING TRANSCRIBED AND SUMMARIZED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, LILIANA, IF YOU WANT TO START WITH THE ROLE. 
          GOOD MORNING COMMISSIONERS. 
          DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER SIMS. I'M HERE. 
          DISTRICT TWO. 
          COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. 
          PRESENT DISTRICT THREE. 
          VICE CHAIR. 
          HERBERT PRESENT? DISTRICT FOUR. 
          DISTRICT FIVE. 
          COMMISSIONER ALTO PRESENT? DISTRICT SIX. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. 
          PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          COMMISSIONER WHEELER, REAGAN. 
          DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN. 
          DISTRICT NINE. 
          COMMISSIONER C***S HERE. 
          DISTRICT 10. 
          COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. 
          PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT 11. 
          COMMISSIONER COX. 
          HAPPY TO BE HERE. 
          DISTRICT 12. 
          COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. 
          DISTRICT 13. 
          COMMISSIONER HALL HERE. 
          DISTRICT 14. 
          COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBIN. 
          YOU HAVE A QUORUM, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IN THE ABSENCE OF CHAIR RUBIN, I WILL BE SERVING AS CHAIR TODAY AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON WILL BE SERVING AS VICE-CHAIR. 
          UM, GETTING THAT UNDERSTOOD. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, 
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LET'S GET STARTED WITH THE BRIEFING. 
          UM, STARTING FIRST IS THE MISCELLANEOUS ZONING ITEMS. UM, YOU WANT TO GET THAT ONE BRIEFED? UH, NO. 
          MR. CHAIR, WE DO NOT NEED TO BRIEF THAT UNLESS ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, MR. FRANKLIN ISN'T HERE. 
          WE'LL WAIT TO HEAR FROM HIM. 
          UM, DISTRICT FOUR, DO WE NEED THAT BRIEF? UH, IT'S 10TH STREET. 
          UM, TIP. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND HE SENT IT TO ME? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, FRANKLIN SENT AN EMAIL ABOUT HIS CASES. 
          HE, WHAT? HE SENT AN EMAIL ABOUT HIS CASES. 
          I JUST NEED TO READ IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH CASE NUMBER FOUR, COUNCIL DISTRICT 11. 
          DO WE NEED A BRIEF? NO. 
          BRIEF. 
          WE'RE ON THE ROLL COUNCIL. 
          UM, DISTRICT NUMBER 13, NUMBER FIVE. 
          THIS IS CASE TWO SIX DASH 2016 A. 
          DO WE NEED A BRIEFING THERE? UH, NO. 
          NO. 
          WELL, I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, P LE LEVY, UH, COULD YOU COME ON UP? DO YOU WANT HER TO BRIEF IT OR YOU JUST WANTED YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED? UH, I DON'T, I DON'T NEED MYSELF. 
          NOPE. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          HAVE THE FLOOR. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          HI. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR DID, DID YOU WANT THAT BRIEFED? JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          THIS LIBRARY HAS BEEN THERE. 
          PRESTON ROYAL LIBRARY HAS BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND IT'S SORT OF A BELOVED FIXTURE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, THEY WISH TO EXPAND A BIT, AND I, I, THIS CASE IS ABOUT, UM, TO ALLOW THAT EXPANSION. 
          THEY CAN NO LONGER DO IT UNDER THE EXISTING SUP. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? UH, YES. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER HALL? UM, YES, IT DID COME IN ORIGINALLY AS, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE SUP FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE LIBRARY. 
          HOWEVER, UM, THAT SUP IS FROM 1962 AND, UM, THE LOT COVERAGE IS, WOULD BE OVER, UM, WITH THIS EXPANSION. 
          AND IT'S ALREADY OVER A LITTLE BIT, UM, FOR THE R ONE ACRE, A, UH, DISTRICT IN WHICH IT'S LOCATED. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE JUST NOT ABLE TO RELIEVE ANY CODE REQUIREMENTS LIKE YARD SPACE AND LOT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES LOT COVERAGE THROUGH AN SUP. 
          SO WE HAD TO FIND A ZONING DISTRICT THAT WAS THE MOST COMPATIBLE, UM, TO ALLOW THAT LOT COVERAGE TO ALLOW THE EXPANSION OF THE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THE, UM, THE HEIGHT IS ACTUALLY BEING REDUCED BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO 36 FEET IN HEIGHT PER THAT DISTRICT, BUT WITH THE NEW, UH, REZONING TO THE NOA DISTRICT, THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO 30 FEET AND HIGH FOR THE DISTRICT. 
          I HOPE THAT HELPS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THERE, WE DON'T FORESEE THEM 
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EVER GOING HIGHER THAN THAT. 
          BUT, UM, UH, GOING TO NNO, UH, NNO IS, UM, WOULD IF THE LIBRARY EVER WENT AWAY AND WE DON'T FORESEE THAT HAPPENING SINCE IT'S SUCH A FIXTURE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT IF IT DID GO AWAY, THIS WOULD REMAIN INNO AND ALLOW SOME VERY LOW IMPACT MODEST OFFICE STRUCTURES OR THINGS LIKE THAT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF WAS CHALLENGED WITH FINDING A DISTRICT THAT WOULD ALLOW WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT STILL BE VERY LIMITED IN IMPACTS AND BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH, WITH WHAT'S AROUND IT, SURROUNDING IT. 
          IN THE, LOOKING AT YOUR TABLE IN YOUR REPORT, THERE'S VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN R ONE ACRE AND, NO, IT'S, JUSTNO HAS A FEW MORE PRIVILEGES THAT R ONE ACRE DOESN'T, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE LEAST IMPACTFUL ZONING WE COULD PUT ON THE LOT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU MR. LEVY. 
          UH, NEXT CASE IS, UH, CASE NUMBER SIX. 
          DO WE NEED A BRIEF? NO BRIEFING THERE. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? UH, CASE NUMBER SEVEN, NO BRIEF. 
          GOOD. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          UM, IS IT, WHO'S THE PLANNER? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN. 
          LILIANA, MS. GARZA, SHE'S ON THE WAY. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THIS IS A PROPOSED EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING, UM, STORAGE, SELF-STORAGE UNIT, CORRECT? UM, YES. 
          AND, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE RATIONALE FOR THE, UM, PROPOSAL THAT THEY GET A 30 YEAR SUP WITH AUTO RENEWALS FOR 10? YES. 
          UM, SO THE REASON WHY THEY WANTED DO A 30 YEARS, UM, ORIGINALLY STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED PERMANENT, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS WITHIN A FORM DISTRICT, AND THERE IS A, LEMME JUST CONFIRM, THE AREA REQUEST IS A WMU 20 DISTRICT. 
          UM, THE MU ARE INTENDED TO ACCOMMODATE AND MAKES A COMPATIBLE USES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER IN A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT. 
          UH, SO THE SUP WOULD ALLOW, UH, FOR STAFF TO REVIEW IT WITHIN 30 YEARS TO SEE IF IT'S STILL COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THE, THE, THE DISTRICT. 
          30 YEARS JUST SEEMS, UH, YOU KNOW, MUCH LONGER THAN WE USUALLY SEE IN THESE CASES. 
          I THINK I'VE RECENTLY SEEN, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS WITH PROPOSALS FOR AUTO RENEWAL. 
          SO I WAS SPECIFICALLY WONDERING WHY THE INITIAL 30 YEAR PERIOD WAS, WAS CHOSEN ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. 
          I'D, I'D ADD ONE MORE THING. 
          THEY, THEY ARE NON-CONFORMING AT THIS TIME. 
          IF WE GIVE THEM THE SUP, THEY BECOME CONFORMING. 
          BUT THEN IF THAT SUP EXPIRES, THEN THEY ARE NOT NON-CONFORMING. 
          THEY, BY COMING INTO COMPLIANCE, THEY LOSE THE ABILITY TO BE NON-CONFORMING. 
          SO I, I THINK WITH AN EXISTING BUSINESS, THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR, IF WE BRING THEM INTO THE SUP, UM, THEY SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A LONG TIME PERIOD BECAUSE IF THEY'RE, IF THEY WERE TO LET THEIR SUP LAPSE, YOU KNOW, BY ACCIDENT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEN THEY ARE NOT ONLY NON-CONFORMING, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED AT ALL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THAT IT? PERFECT. 
          OH YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT? YEAH, I WAS KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT THE SAME THING. 
          I'M GONNA ASK, UM, ABOUT NOT THE 30 YEAR PART, BUT THE AUTO RENEWAL PART. 
          CAN, DID, DID YOU ADDRESS, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED THAT YET. 
          WHY, WHY AN AUTO RENEWAL? MAYBE I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH THE 30 YEARS, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN ANY, WELL, I CAN'T DISCUSS, BUT, UH, I'LL JUST ASK THE QUESTION. 
          I, I WOULD SAY IF, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY MIXED USE AS THE PLACE TYPE, IF THE AREA BECOMES SIGNIFICANTLY MORE RESIDENTIAL IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A GOOD TRIGGER FOR IT. 
          UM, AND SO IT'LL STILL GO THROUGH THAT, THAT AUTO RENEWAL NOTIFICATION PROCESS. 
          AND IF THEY ARE NOT BUILT OUT IN A WAY THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEW RESIDENTIAL, THEN THEY, THAT THAT'S THERE, THEN THAT'S THEIR TRIGGER. 
          OTHERWISE, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY AFTER A GOOD PERIOD OF OPERATING, THEN THEY WOULD, IF THEY'RE MEANING EVERYTHING, THE AREA HAS NOT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY IN, IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO AUTO RENEWAL. 
          UM, OR IF IT HAS CHANGED AND THERE ARE RESIDENCES NEARBY, BUT THEY DON'T OBJECT BECAUSE IT'S OPERATING IN A COMPATIBLE WAY, UM, THEN THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ON, ON OUR END FOR THEM GETTING THAT ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL. 
          MAY I? YES. 
          YES. 
          SORRY. 
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IT, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT, UH, FOLLOWING UP ON COMMISSIONER HOUSE, WRIGHT'S QUESTION THAT THE, UM, EVALUATION OF COMPATIBILITY WOULD BE MORE LIKELY IF THE SUP UM, DID NOT HAVE AN AUTO RENEWAL AND THAT IT HAD TO COME BACK THROUGH THE FULL ZONING PROCESS. 
          'CAUSE AUTO RENEWAL IS BASICALLY, UM, JUST PRETTY FORMULAIC. 
          YOU SUBMIT YOUR PAPERWORK ON TIME, YOU PAY YOUR FEE, YOU DON'T HAVE 20% OF THE AREA OF THE NOTIFICATION, UM, YOU KNOW, OBJECTING. 
          SO, I KNOW I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, , I'LL SAY IT AGAIN PROBABLY, BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO BE AN ARGUMENT TO NOT DO AUTO RENEWAL IF WE THINK THAT COMPATIBILITY IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED IN AN AREA THAT WE ALL, UH, KNOW IS CHANGING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DOES THIS STILL STAND ON CONSENT? YES. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER COS SINCE THIS CASE IS IN MY DISTRICT, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND, UH, COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE AUTO RENEWAL. 
          IS IT THE 30 YEARS OR THE AUTO RENEWAL THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT MORE? I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE AUTO RENEWAL. 
          I COULD LIVE WITH 30 YEARS. 
          I THINK IT'S A LITTLE LONG, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I, I COULD LIVE WITH THAT, BUT THE AUTO RENEWAL DOES GIVE ME GREAT PAUSE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE SAME STR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE TALKED TO THE, UH, TO THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, UH, ABOUT THE DURATION OF THE SUP. 
          UH, INITIALLY I THOUGHT 30 YEARS WAS EXCESSIVE, BUT THEY'RE LOOKING TO INVEST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, UH, IN AN EXISTING FACILITY. 
          UH, IT'S, IT'S WELL BUILT. 
          IT'S A FOUR STORY FACILITY OFF OF MONTFORD. 
          THIS IS IN THE PD 8 87. 
          UH, IT IS NON-CONFORMING CURRENTLY. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE WANT TO ALLOW THEM TO ADD TO IT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE INVESTMENT AND ALSO WHERE THE ADDITION WILL BE LOCATED. 
          IT WILL NOT BE STREET FRONT. 
          UM, SO WE THINK THAT THE 30 YEARS IS FINE. 
          THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY, APPLICANT RE REPRESENTATIVE, ACTUALLY AGREED, UH, TO A LESSER TIMEFRAME. 
          BUT WE THOUGHT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, I THINK THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, REASONABLE GIVEN THE, THE INVESTMENT AGAIN THAT THE, UH, THE OWNER IS GONNA BE MAKING. 
          UM, I CAN CERTAINLY GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHT TO THE AUTO RENEWAL PIECE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DO YOU WANT THIS ON CONSENT OR? WELL, I, I'M GONNA, I WILL DEFER TO THE, TO THE COMMISSIONER IF HE'S GONNA TAKE IT OFF OF AUTO RENEWAL. 
          IF HE'S STILL THINKING ABOUT IT. 
          I'LL, I'LL ASK SOME QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL TAKE THIS OFF. 
          CONSENT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AT THE HEARING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING TO, UH, CASE NUMBER SEVEN. 
          UH, OH, THAT WAS SEVEN  NUMBER EIGHT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT'S ALSO DISTRICT HONOR. 
          SAME. 
          SAME DISTRICT. 
          YEP. 
          UM, NEED A BRIEF? NO. 
          BRIEF. 
          YEP. 
          0 0 0. 
          TWO THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING RIGHT IN ON, UM, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN SER, DO YOU NEED A BRIEF? YES, I WOULD LIKE TO BE BRIEFED AND I ALSO NEED TO PULL IT OFF CONSENT, BUT YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          I'D LIKE A BRIEFING, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, THIS IS Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 60. 
          IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW PACIFIC USE PERMIT FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT SCHOOL ON PROPERTIES ZONE R SEVEN 50, A SINGLE FAMILY. 
          IT'S LOCATED ON THE WEST LINE OF SHAHE ROAD AND SOUTH OF LIMESTONE DRIVE. 
          IT'S APPROXIMATELY FIVE ACRES IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT FIVE. 
          HERE IS THE PROPERTY LOCATED, UH, WITHIN CITY LIMITS. 
          UM, HERE'S A BRIEF, BRIEF BACKGROUND 
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OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THE CHURCH. 
          THE CUS OPPOSING A NEW SUP FOR OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL THAT WILL SERVE GRADES FIVE THROUGH EIGHT. 
          UM, THERE'S 15 CLASSROOMS PROPOSED ON THE SITE. 
          HERE IS THE AREA VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. 
          HERE'S THE ZONING MAP OF THE PROPERTY SHOWING SURROUNDING AREAS TO THE NORTH. 
          THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY TO THE EAST, THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY, AND THEN ALSO THE CITY OF BOTCH. 
          SPRING, UM, TO THE SOUTH THERE'S A PD, UH, 2 65 THAT HAD RESIDENTIAL UNITS. 
          UM, AND THEN TO THE WEST THERE, SINGLE FAMILY. 
          HERE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS. 
          THIS IS THE ZONING SIGN SHOWN ON THE PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS LOOKING WEST, LOOKING NORTHWEST. 
          LOOKING NORTHEAST, NORTHWEST, SORRY, NORTHWEST LOOKING WEST, NORTH, NORTHEAST, NORTHEAST, SOUTHEAST, SOUTH, SOUTHWEST. 
          UM, HERE'S THE PROPOSED DEVELOP, THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, LET ME GET THE ENLARGEMENT. 
          UM, AS YOU SEE HERE, UM, THE EXISTING CHURCH IS, UM, CLOSE TO THE DRIVEWAY TO, UH, SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA INCLUDE THE CLASSROOMS TO THE TWO BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH, THE ONE TO THE NORTHWEST, AND THEN THE ONE TO THE NORTH. 
          AND THEY'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE A STORM SHELTER. 
          AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, THEY'RE GONNA ADD A GYM. 
          UM, AND I THINK THEY HAVE A OFFICE BUILDING SHOWN. 
          UM, HERE ARE THE SUP CONDITIONS, STANDARD SCHOOL CONDITIONS, UM, THAT WE USE FOR SUVS, UH, AND PDS FOR SCHOOLS. 
          UM, HERE'S THE TMP PLAN SHOWING THE TRAFFIC ROUTE TO PICK UP STUDENTS. 
          UM, THIS IS ALSO, UM, IN FORT DALLAS. 
          UM, IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL, UM, PLACE TYPE, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE PLAN, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          THAT CONCLUDES THIS PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, UM, UH, MS. BLUE, UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, UM, MR. PEPE, YOU HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT? YES, I DID JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE TIA AT THIS TIME. 
          UH, SHE WAS JUST PROMOTED TO CHIEF PLANNER AND NOW OVERSEES THE, THE SPECIAL ZONING PROJECTS TEAM, WHICH IS THE, THE, THE CRACK TEAM THAT DOES A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. 
          UM, ALSO DOES INTAKE, DOES CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR MORE THAN REALLY JUST OUR TEAM IN TERMS OF ZONING AND, AND, AND PLANNING STUFF. 
          SO, UH, RECOGNIZE YOU FOR, FOR THAT, YOUR, YOUR EXISTING SERVICE AND, AND LEADERSHIP. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE SHOUT OUT. 
          BUT, UH, SO SHE NOW OVERSEES OUR, OUR INTAKE AND, AND ALL OF THAT MISCELLANEOUS STUFF. 
          SO, UM, I'M SURE YOU'LL BE, UH, ASKING HER SOME QUESTIONS. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CONGRATULATIONS MS. BLUE, WE APPRECIATE YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, NOW FOR THE WORK? NO, UH, COMMISSIONER SERRA, CONGRATULATIONS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOU, YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I JUST WAS GONNA ASK, IS THIS CURRENTLY, IS THIS SITE CURRENTLY BEING USED AS, I KNOW IT'S CURRENTLY A CHURCH SITE, IS DO THEY HAVE PARISHIONERS? NO, I DID MY SITE VISIT, WHICH WAS DURING THE WEEK. 
          UM, THEY HAD A CHURCH SIGN, BUT I DON'T THINK THE CHURCH IS CURRENTLY BEING USED. 
          UM, I, YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE APPLICANT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY ELSE BOUGHT THE CHURCH, GONNA USE IT AS A CHURCH AND A SCHOOL. 
          I KNOW THEY'RE STILL USING THE CHURCH BUILDING AS SERVICE FOR CHURCHES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A NEW OWNER OR I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY FOR THAT. 
          SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I, UH, THE CONCERN THAT I HAD WHEN I VISITED, UH, THIS WEEK WAS THAT THE, THE STREET THERE, IT'S, IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET. 
          IT'S VERY NARROW. 
          HAVE YOU HEARD ANY CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD? I HAVE NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT THAT'LL BE A QUESTION OF COURSE FOR, UM, THE ENGINEER THAT DID THE TMP AND THEN ALSO THE OWNER. 
          OKAY. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU ARE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER, UM, CARPENTER? YES. 
          MS. BLUE? YES. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          UM, THE, UH, CASE REPORT SAYS THAT THE GRADE LEVEL THEY'RE GONNA SERVE IS FIVE THROUGH EIGHT, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE SUP CONDITIONS THAT ADDRESS GRADE LEVEL. 
          SO IS THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT WOULD PREVENT THIS, LET'S SAY FROM BECOMING A HIGH SCHOOL AT SOME POINT? UH, IT WILL NOT, WE USUALLY DON'T PUT THE LEVELS OF CLASSROOMS IN S SUVS. 
          IT'S ONLY IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO, BUT IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DON'T, WELL, I SEE THEM SOMETIMES THAT HAVE ELEMENTARY OR HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IN THIS CASE YOU'RE SAYING WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO THAT NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I THINK, AND THAT GOES DOWN TO KIND OF LIMITING CLASSROOMS IS A LITTLE DODGY FOR US, UM, GENERALLY, SO IT'S HARD TO SPEAK TO THE USE WITHOUT THE CLASSROOMS. DOES THE TMP HAVE ANY CONTROL OF SCHOOL SIZE AND THE GRADE LEVELS? UH, NO. 
          I, I THINK THE TMP IS KIND OF SECONDARY. 
          SO WHATEVER THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR SCHOOLS, THE TMP WILL FOLLOW. 
          UM, SO IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL, UH, GRADES ADDED, THEN 
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THEY WILL HAVE TO UPDATE THEIR TMP FOR THOSE STUDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY ON THE SITE. 
          AND SAFETY IS THERE FOR THE STUDENTS AND THE PARENTS PICKING UP, UH, STUDENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL SAY, SORRY, I DON'T WANNA NO, GO AHEAD. 
          BUT THE, THE ONE, THE ONE THING THAT WOULD BE TRIGGERED BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, AS PROPOSED FIVE TO EIGHT UP TO HIGH SCHOOL IS, UH, PARKING. 
          YES. 
          THEN THEY WOULD TRIGGER PARKING. 
          AND THAT HAS ITS OWN COMPLICATIONS BEYOND THAT MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK WITH THE BIG SITE, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A, UH, IMPEDIMENT, WELL, I KNOW WHAT ARE THE COMPLICATIONS THAT CAN ARISE IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, SAY HIGH SCHOOLS, WELL I GUESS ANY SCHOOL, BUT USUALLY WITH HIGH SCHOOLS THAT YOU CAN COME ALONG AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR SITE PLAN ESTABLISHED AND ADD ATHLETIC FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE MINOR AMENDMENT PROCESS, WHICH CAN BE A PROBLEM WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT HAVING ANY CHANCE FOR INPUT. 
          SO THAT WAS REALLY WHAT WAS BEHIND THE QUESTION. 
          I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          THIS IS THE GOLDEN RULE SCHOOL. 
          THEY HAVE A CAMPUS ON ILLINOIS. 
          THAT'LL BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN DO THAT. 
          WELL, I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH THAT I CAN REMEMBER THE, THE, THE PROBLEMS WE HAD WITH TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AT THAT OTHER SCHOOL, WHICH I WILL CERTAINLY ASK QUESTIONS 'CAUSE THAT WOULD, UM, IMPACT MY WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT, WELL I, IT WOULD IMPACT MY WILLINGNESS TO SUPPORT A PERMANENT SUP, BUT THANK YOU. 
          THANKS, THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER HALL, MS. BLUE, WHAT, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT BUILT INTO THE SUP? THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF ANY BUILDING THEY'RE PROPOSING? UM, SO WE DIDN'T PUT ANY MAXIMUM HEIGHT, BUT IT'S BASED ON THE DISTRICT'S HEIGHT. 
          SO, UM, IF IT'S IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, IT'S PROBABLY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 30 TO 36 30. 
          SO THE SUP WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE BASE ZONING, AND SO WE DON'T PUT ACTUALLY HEIGHT IN THE SUP CONDITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO 30, 30 OR 36 FEET. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT CASE? PERFECT. 
          MOVING RIGHT ALONG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO, THANK YOU. 
          AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. 
          UM, UH, UH, CASE NUMBER 10, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT NINE. 
          UH, NO, NO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE, BUT I DO NEED TO PULL IT OFF. 
          CONSENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, WHO IS IT? MS. HASHIMI. 
          DR. 
          HASHIMI. 
          GOOD MORNING COMM. 
          HI THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THE CASE REPORT SAYS THIS IS CULT OF OUR COFFEE, CORRECT? YES. 
          BUT THEY ARE CHANGING TO BECOME A, A, A SELLER OF ALCOHOL. 
          THEY ARE CHANGE. 
          SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? SO, I MEAN, THE, THE CO IT'S A COFFEE SHOP. 
          COFFEE SHOPS DON'T NORMALLY SELL ALCOHOL. 
          ARE THEY CHANGING FROM BEING CULT OF OUR COFFEE TO SOMETHING ELSE? NO, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA STAY THE SAME USE MM-HMM . 
          AND THEY HAVE RESTAURANT AND ALSO TO GO, UH, BEER AND WINE, UH, SALE. 
          SO, UM, IN A, I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW IN A RESTAURANT THEY ARE NOT SERVING ALCOHOL. 
          BUT, UH, THERE IS, UH, UM, UM, THERE IS A WALL WITH ALL THOSE, UM, UH, S AND WINES AND PEOPLE CAN, UH, GET, UM, TO GO ALCOHOL. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HAVE Y'ALL EVER, EVER BEEN THERE? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY UNIQUE. 
          IT'S PRETTY FAR FROM WHERE , I, YEAH, I'M SURE I DON'T GO THAT FAR. 
          IT'S, IT'S PRETTY UNIQUE. 
          UH, UM, BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHY THE SUP IS THE WAY IT IS. 
          BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW IS TO CONTINUE THE EXISTING SERVICE. 
          'CAUSE THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COFFEE, THEY, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A BIG BREAKFAST MENU WITH GIANT BREAKFAST SANDWICHES. 
          BUT THEN YOU MAY ALSO BUY BEER, BEER TO GO. 
          IT'S KIND OF ODD, BUT THE SUP WILL ACCOMMODATE IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          MY OTHER QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE SUP BEING FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT BEING ABLE TO SELL, UM, ALCOHOL, BUT ALSO AS A LIQUOR STORE. 
          I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD NEED AN SUP TO BE A LIQUOR STORE. 
          'CAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING NOW AT POST COVID IS THAT THE STATE'S RULES CHANGE THAT RESTAURANTS ARE ALLOWED TO SELL. 
          IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE A PERMIT TO SELL ALCOHOL, THEY CAN SELL IT TO GO ALSO. 
          SO WHY WOULD THEY NEED AN SUP FOR A LIQUOR STORE? UM, I MEAN, IT WAS THE INTENT OF THE REQUEST, BUT, UH, WHAT WE ARE ADVERTISING IT IS LIKE IT LED THEM TO, UH, SELL ALCOHOL IN BOTH RESTAURANT AND, UM, IN, IN THE STORE. 
          BUT YEAH, MICHAEL, YOU CAN CHIME IN. 
          YEAH, AND THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND AGAIN, IF YOU, IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE, IT'S A RESTAURANT SPACE THAT SHARES THE SPACE WITH THE PLACE WHERE THEY SELL ALCOHOL. 
          BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A STATE ISSUE. 
          I THINK IT'S A COING ISSUE BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE AN, THEY HAVE THE CO FOR RESTAURANT, BUT ALSO FOR, FOR LIQUOR STORE. 
          AND IT'S NOT, UH, THE AREA OF THE COUNTY THEY'RE IN. 
          I DON'T THINK THEY CAN SELL LIQUOR, HARD LIQUOR, 
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BUT THEY CAN SELL BEER AND WINE. 
          AND SO IF YOU, IF I OPEN A STORE ON GARLAND ROAD AND WANT TO JUST SELL BEER AND WINE, UM, THEN I AM COED AS A LIQUOR STORE, BUT I CAN'T SELL HARD STUFF. 
          UM, BUT YOU CAN SELL BEER AND WINE. 
          SO I THINK A BIG PART OF IT, WITH THEM OCCUPYING THE SAME SUITE AND SPACE, IT'S TO COVER THEIR BASES AND THAT, THAT, UH, IN TERMS OF CO AND, AND TO KNOW, THEY HAD AN SUP PREVIOUSLY AND IT WAS THAT WAY. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY WERE COED THIS WAY. 
          I THINK IT'S TO COVER THEIR, THEIR BASES FROM A CITY REGULATION PERSPECTIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? GREAT ONE. 
          UH, YES, ONE MORE. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS ESTABLISHMENT HAS BEEN OPERATING THIS WAY FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND IT'S COME TO US BECAUSE THEY'VE LET THEIR SUP LAPSE UNINTENTIONALLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YOU? YEAH. 
          IS THAT A QUESTION? YES. 
          YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT? UH, I, WHAT I KNOW IS THAT THEY HAVE AN SUP, UH, UNTIL 2019 AND THEN, UH, THEY WERE ELIGIBLE FOR ANOTHER, UH, FOR AUTO RENEWAL FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEAR PERIOD, BUT THEY MISSED, UH, THE WINDOW. 
          UH, THAT'S WHY, UM, YEAH, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE THIS UP SINCE THEN. 
          AND NOW THEY ARE REQUESTING A NEW SUP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. 
          UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN THIS CASE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU DR. 
          MONA. 
          OH, YOU MAY HAVE ANOTHER ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THIS IS CASE 11, DISTRICT 11. 
          WE HAVE IT SET TO BE PULLED. 
          WE HAVE IT. 
          NEED A BRIEF. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I'M SORRY. 
          IS IT UNDER ADVISEMENT OR JUST ALL, OR YOU PLANNING TO HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT? YOU KNOW HOW LONG WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT? AFTERNOON 25TH. 
          JULY 25TH. 
          IT'S JUNE. 
          JUNE, OKAY. 
          NO, THANK YOU. 
          UM, NEXT CASE IS, UM, CASE NUMBER 12. 
          I HAVE IT TO BE PULLED, SO LET'S HAVE IT BRIEFED. 
          I'M SORRY, IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE BRIEFED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY. 
          GOT DISTRICTS CONFUSED. 
          IT'S JUST OFF CONSENT, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE BRIEF. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THE SAME FOUR 13. 
          PERFECT. 
          NO QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ALONG. 
          UH, CASE NUMBER 14, DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          UM, IT CAN STAY ON CONSENT. 
          I GOT A MESSAGE FROM TABITHA THERE. 
          YEP. 
          SHE IS. 
          POOR THING. 
          AND THEN CASE NUMBER 15, DISTRICT TWO. 
          IT IS GOING TO BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JULY THE 23RD. 
          AND RENO FOR AN SUP. 
          AND I SHOULD FOLLOW IF WE DON'T NEED A BRIEFING AT THIS TIME. 
          DON'T NEED A BRIEF. 
          GOTCHA. 
          UM, YES. 
          AND NEXT IS, UH, NEXT CASE NUMBER 16, COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX. 
          YES. 
          I NEED, UH, FOR A FEW CHANGES TO BE BRIEFED. 
          PERFECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LET'S GO. 
          MR. BATE. 
          GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, JUST READING A FEW CHANGES INTO THE RECORD HERE. 
          UH, MAKE THINGS A LITTLE SMOOTHER AT THE HEARING. 
          UH, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, AS YOU SAW IN THE REPORT IS APPROVAL, UH, SUBJECT TO THE, UH, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          THERE ARE A FEW CHANGES, UM, ADDING TO THE PROHIBITED USES AND SUBDISTRICT A, UH, FIRST, UH, ADDING A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS SERVICE USES BUS, RAIL, TRANSIT VEHICLE MAINTENANCE OR STORAGE FACILITY AND MACHINERY, HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR TRUCK SALES AND SERVICE UNDER SECTION E, ADDING ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENTS, COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE AND MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          UH, THERE ARE NO OTHER CHANGES TO IT AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL, UH, SUBJECT TO ALL THOSE, UH, ITEMS AND THE CONDITIONS, UH, IS BRIEFED. 
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THANK YOU. 
          QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU FOR, UM, PROVIDING THAT FOR US, MR. PIT. 
          THAT WAS 16. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THE, WE HAVE A FEW CASES UNDER ADVISEMENT ALREADY. 
          17, 18, AND 19. 
          DO ANY BRIEFS ON THOSE? CAN UM, YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          MY QUESTION IS, ARE THEY STAYING UNDER ADVISEMENT? I MEAN, THEY, THE UNDER ADVISEMENT'S BEING EXTENDED. 
          I KNOW DISTRICT EIGHTS ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DISTRICT TWO, ARE YOU REMAINING UNDER ADVISEMENT? YES. 
          YES, WE'RE GONNA HEAR THAT TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHAT ABOUT, UH, CASE NUMBER 20 AND MR. CHAIR? YES. 
          I'LL HAVE A CONFLICT ON THAT IF I OKAY. 
          YOU WANT? YES, PLEASE DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER. 
          MR. HALL, DO YOU NEED THE BRIEF? OH, MR. COS, I'M SORRY. 
          DO YOU NEED THAT ONE BRIEF? IS IT IT IS DISTRICT 1320. 
          I'M, OH, IS IT? I'M SORRY. 
          DID I MC SHAN? YEP. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, I, YES, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF MR. BATE. 
          YES. 
          COME ON UP, MR. BATE. 
          SORRY TO SEND YOU WAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, THANK YOU. 
          UH, AND, AND THESE MAY COME UP AGAIN LATER WHEN THE MOTION'S MADE OR WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ASK QUESTIONS TO STAFF. 
          UH, UH, HOW OFTEN IS THIS RTN ZONING USED IN THE CITY IN TERMS OF HOW OFTEN IT'S USED? I WOULD SAY, UH, MICHAEL AND I DID A BIT OF RESEARCH ON THIS YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. 
          UH, THE PREDOMINANT APPEARANCE OF RTN IN THE CITY IS WITHIN PD 4 68, WHICH IS ONE OF THE OAK CLIFF, UH, SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICTS OVER KIND OF ADJACENT TO THE BISHOP ARTS AREA OR COMING TO SOME OF THE BISHOP ARTS AREA. 
          UH, THERE ARE TWO LARGE SUB-DISTRICTS WITHIN 4 68 THAT HAVE RTN AS THE BASE, UH, PD 5 95, THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK, UH, SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT, UH, WHICH WAS JUST RECENTLY AMENDED YESTERDAY. 
          UM, IT DOES, OR AT LEAST DID INCLUDE AN RTN OR FRTN DISTRICT. 
          UM, IN THAT CASE IT EXISTS MORE AS A ONE OF THE OPTIONS FOR ZONING, UH, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BELABORING GETTING TOO INTO THE DETAILS THERE. 
          WITH PD 5 95, IT WORKS KINDA LIKE PD 1 93 WHERE IT'S ESTABLISHED A WHOLE BUNCH OF ZONING DISTRICTS THAT CAN BE USED, UM, ON A LARGE BASIS, ON A LOT BY LOT BASIS. 
          UH, SO IT EXISTS THERE. 
          WE DID HAVE A CASE LAST YEAR WHERE A PARCEL IN PD 5 95 WAS REZONED FROM R FIVE TO FRTN. 
          UM, OTHERWISE, UM, NOT QUITE AWARE OF OTHER ONE-OFFS. 
          UH, OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, IT'S A TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX, AND I THINK HISTORICALLY WE'VE USED IT WITHIN THOSE TWO PDS. 
          UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US. 
          SO IT'S A RESOURCE WE HAVE, BUT IT'S NOT WIDELY, NOT WIDELY USED IN THE CITY AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, ANY, THERE'S NONE IN DISTRICT 13 IS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          UH, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AS FAR AS I KNOW. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BATE? THIS CASE? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER IS LANDMARK STILL LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR AREA? UH, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION IS A HEARING OR NOT HEARING. 
          THEY'VE, I BELIEVE, AUTHORIZED A, THE PROCESS FOR A HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION ALONG SHAN, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE SUBJECT SITE FOR THIS ZONING CASE, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER PARCELS ALONG SHAN DID OPT OUT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION. 
          UM, BUT THE PROCESS IS UNDERWAY FOR THE AREA WRIT LARGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HALL, UH, I'LL JUST AMPLIFY THAT A BIT. 
          UM, WE, WE KNOW THAT LANDMARK IS TWO YEARS OR MORE RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, THERE ARE SIX PROPERTIES ALONG THE STREET THAT ARE OWNED BY THE ORTHODOX COMMUNITY AND FOR RELIGIOUS GROUNDS, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO OPT OUT OF THE LANDMARK PROCESS. 
          UH, AND SO, UH, THERE IS COMMUNITY OPPOSITION TO THE LANDMARK. 
          SO WHO, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S THE CURRENT STATUS ON THE GROUND. 
          OKAY. 
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CORRECT. 
          MR. BATE. 
          NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          UH, THIS WAS PUT UNDER ADVISEMENT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE OF THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          RIGHT? LIKE, WE WERE WAITING TO SEE WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THAT, RIGHT? THAT'S MY MEMORY, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, I BELIEVE SO. 
          I, I'LL DEFER TO THE COMMISSIONER, UH, ON THAT, BUT I DO BELIEVE PART OF IT WAS TO, I I'M, IT WAS A PART OF IT. 
          I DIDN'T CATCH IT. 
          WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? UH, THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PUT UNDER ADVISEMENT BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING TO HEAR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE LANDMARK. 
          IT, IT, IT'S BEEN PUT UNDER ADVISEMENT SEVERAL TIMES AND IT HAD, IT HAD TO DO WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. 
          BUT MOST LATELY, DUE TO THE LANDMARK PROCESS, THEY HAD AN INITIAL HEARING ON JUNE THE FIRST. 
          AND SO THE COMMUNITY, UH, AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT WANTED TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL AFTER THAT JUNE THE FIRST, AT THAT TIME, LANDMARK, UH, VOTED TO PROCEED WITH THE APPLICA WITH THE APPLICATION. 
          AND IT STARTS A TWO YEAR PROCESS OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          AND, UH, IT TAKES A LONG TIME, I THINK, TO DRAFT THE LANDMARK ORDINANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY TWO, ABOUT TWO YEARS OR SO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND THIS IS JUST STILL, I'M IN MY LEARNING, I'M TELLING MYSELF, I'M STILL IN MY LEARNING CURVE PHASE. 
          UM, BUT HOW LONG CAN SOMETHING BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT? BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE SINCE THAT'S A PRETTY LONG PROCESS, LIKE, CAN WE PUT OFF THIS CASE FOR TWO YEARS OR DOES IT JUST NEED TO BE LIKE DENIED UNTIL THERE'S MORE CLARITY? I THINK I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          I THINK WE NEEDED SOME CLARIFICATIONS AT THE TIME AROUND THAT, AND I THINK IT'S BEEN CLARIFIED, SO THERE MAY BE A MOTION TODAY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          WE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT MORE AT THE HEARING. 
          BUT YEAH, STAFF MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THAT. 
          BUT MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO PLACE SOMETHING UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR TWO YEARS , YOU KNOW? YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD PERSONALLY RECOMMEND AGAINST IT. 
          UM, THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS. 
          I MEAN, THEY DO, THEY TRACK OUR TEAM'S METRICS. 
          THEY ALSO TRACK THE COMMISSION'S METRICS AND REPORT THAT TO COUNCIL. 
          UM, AND IT COULD THROW A WRENCH IN THAT A, A SMIDGE. 
          WE TRY AND USE MEDIANS FOR THAT REASON. 
          UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, I THINK THEN THERE'S KIND OF THE NOTIFICATION ISSUE. 
          IF SOMEONE WAS KEEPING CLOSE TRACK OF THE HEARINGS ON THIS CASE, THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD LONG TIME TO, TO KEEP TRACK OF. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE LAST THING I WOULD ADD AS WELL IS, UH, INITIALLY SOME OF THE CONCERN WAS THAT GIVEN THE ORIGINAL BOUNDARIES OF THE REQUESTED HISTORIC DISTRICT, UM, I BELIEVE IT JUST ORIGINALLY INCLUDED JUST ALL OF SHAN. 
          AND WHEN YOU INITIATE THE PROCESS, EVEN BEFORE LANDMARK MAKES A DECISION TO EITHER PROCEED OR NOT PROCEED, IT DOES PLACE A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM ON, UH, CONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION, ET CETERA. 
          UM, SINCE THEN, WITH THE CHANGES TO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION, UM, THE SUBJECT SITE HERE IS NO LONGER BOUND BY THAT MORATORIUM THAT IS NOW IN PLACE AS THE COMMISSION, UH, MOVED FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS. 
          SO EVERYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THAT AREA OF REQUEST FOR THE DIS FOR THE DISTRICT, UH, IS NOW UNDER A MORATORIUM. 
          UH, BUT THIS SUBJECT SITE AS WELL AS SOME OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG HAN THEY'RE NO LONGER A PART OF THAT. 
          SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE ALSO NOT SUBJECT TO THE MORATORIUM QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER COPE. 
          IF I COULD, I, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER HERE. 
          I, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THE, UM, UM, THE NOTION OF THE RTN, THE TRANSITION DISTRICT, UM, TO ME, IN LOOKING AT THE, THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED, WHAT IS THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO REALLY TRANSITION TO? UH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          AND IN TERMS OF WHAT IT'S TRANSITIONING TO OR FROM, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF IT IS THE HAVING THE PROXIMITY TO PRESTON, WHICH IN THE REPORT, YOU KNOW, WE DO MENTION THAT HAVING THAT ADJACENCY TO A THOROUGHFARE, GENERALLY, WE SEE THAT AS SOMETHING THAT CAN SUPPORT A LITTLE GREATER DENSITY, UH, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL USES TO THE NORTH. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK KIND OF GOING ALONG, PRESTON COME DOWN FROM 6 35, YOU HAVE THE SHOPPING CENTER THERE, AND THEN YOU HAVE A KIND OF TOWNHOUSE CONDO DEVELOPMENT IMMEDIATELY NORTH. 
          UH, SO THEN FROM THERE WE SEE THAT IT COULD BE, UH, IT COULD BE SEEN AS COMPATIBLE TO HAVE SOMEWHAT DENSER HOUSING ALONG A CORNER THERE. 
          UH, BEYOND THAT, ALLUDING TO SOMETHING I SAID EARLIER JUST REGARDING THE RTN AND BEING A TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX, UM, WHEN WE KIND OF LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THIS APPLICATION OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE A SIMILAR APPLICATION AND LOOK AT IT WITH FORWARD DALLAS AS WELL, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUGGESTS THAT WITHIN COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, DUPLEXES, ET CETERA. 
          UH, TYPICALLY ALONG STREET CORNERS, CLOSE TO THOROUGHFARES, 
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NOT SO MUCH IN THE MIDDLE OF THINGS, UH, BUT SOMETHING THAT OFTEN COMES UP WHEN THIS IS BROUGHT WHEN SUCH A CHANGE PROPOSED IS WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE DISTRICT TO USE. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PERFECT TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX TO NECESSARILY ACCOMPLISH THAT THESE DAYS. 
          I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR TEAM IS WORKING ON, ON THE CODE REFORM SIDE. 
          BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE OFTEN GET WHEN WE HAVE THESE REQUESTS FOR INCREASED HOUSING DENSITY, WHETHER IT'S ON THE STREET CORNER OR OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IS THAT, FOR INSTANCE, THE TH THREE DISTRICTS, THEY ALLOW 36 FEET WITH PRETTY TIGHT, UM, PRETTY TIGHT SETBACKS, EVEN IF THEY'RE A BUDDING, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. 
          AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE PROVISIONS IN THE FORM-BASED CODE, THE RTN DISTRICT, THAT IN STAFF'S PROFESSIONAL OPINION IMPROVE UPON NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WITH A TH THREE DISTRICT, YOU COULD BUILD A, I THINK THE TERM WE USE SOMETIMES THE SHOTGUN TOWN HOME, BUT ESSENTIALLY SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU'RE ON THE STREET, YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSE AND YOU SEE A VERY LARGE GARAGE DOOR, MAYBE TWO WINDOWS ABOVE IT. 
          UH, THIS MIGHT BE A SUBJECTIVE STATEMENT, BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE THAT THAT DOESN'T CREATE AN INVITING STREET SCAPE OR NEIGHBORHOOD STREET SCAPE. 
          UH, THE R THE ADVANTAGE OF THE RTN DISTRICT WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE KINDS OF REQUESTS IS THAT THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT REQUIRE REAR LOADING OF GARAGES OR ALLEY ACCESS FOR GARAGES TO ENCOURAGE THAT STREET FACING, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND THAT STREET FACING, UH, TYPOLOGY, I'M USING TOO MANY FANCY WORDS THERE. 
          BASICALLY THE RTN DISTRICT, ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES THAT IT HAS WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE CASES IS, OKAY, OF ALL THE DISTRICTS THAT WOULD ALLOW SOMETHING LIKE A TOWNHOUSE, A DUPLEX, ET CETERA, IT'S THE ONLY ONE IN OUR BASE CODE THAT HAS BUILT-IN PROVISIONS THAT ENCOURAGE THE HOUSE TO GREET THE STREET, TO LOOK AT THE HOUSE AND SAY, OKAY, THIS, THIS IS A HOUSE. 
          THERE'S SOMETHING OF A YARD. 
          THERE'S SOMETHING OF, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A PORCH OR ANYTHING, BUT IT AVOIDS THAT LARGE MONOLITHIC GARAGE AND TWO WINDOWS ABOVE IT. 
          APPEARANCE. 
          IS IT A PERFECT TOOL? NO, I'D SAY NOTHING IN OUR ZONING CODE IS EXACTLY A PERFECT TOOL, FRANKLY. 
          UH, BUT OF ALL THE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING RTN MORE AND MORE AS IF, IF A COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL AGREES THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE SITE FOR INFILL DENSITY, UH, IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST TOOL THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR SOMETHING THAT'S MORE ENGAGING WITH THE STREET AND MORE, UH, I WOULD JUST SAY PLEASANT TO PEOPLE DRIVING OR WALKING ALONG. 
          SO WOULD YOU AGREE THAT, THAT THIS PROPERTY IS, IS LOCATED IN A STABLE, LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY? I WOULD SAY THAT IT IS. 
          THOSE ARE GOOD DESCRIPTORS. 
          IT'S STABLE AND LOW DENSITY, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND, AND AGAIN, I'M FAIRLY NEW AT THIS, BUT IN, IN DOING SOME RESEARCH THAT AT TRANSITION DISTRICT, UH, IT'S REALLY INTENDED TO BUFFER SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY COMMERCIAL, SINGLE FAMILY MIXED USE QUARTERS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? I'D SAY THAT HISTORICALLY THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN, BEEN APPLIED. 
          UM, CERTAINLY THAT'S HOW IT IS WITHIN PD 4 68. 
          I MENTIONED EARLIER THE OAK CLIFF, UH, OAK CLIFF GATEWAY, UH, WITHIN PD 5 95. 
          WE DID USE IT RECENTLY WHERE, UH, I THINK TO KIND OF MY EARLIER POINT, UH, AN APPLICANT WANTED TO DEVELOP EITHER ATTACHED, ATTACHED SINGLE FAMILY OR MAYBE A DUPLEX. 
          AND WE FOUND THAT THE RTN UH, ZONING WITHIN PD 5 95 WAS THE BEST WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. 
          UM, I'D CAVEAT SAYING THAT WAS WITHIN A LOWER DEN OR A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO BEGIN WITH. 
          UM, BUT WE'VE, I WOULD SAY STAFF HAS BEEN OPEN TO EXPLORING USING IT FOR, UH, FOR THESE SITUATIONS AS WELL. 
          AND I THINK MICHAEL WANTS TO ADD SOMETHING THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D ADD, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE, BUT A A HUNDRED FEET TO THE NORTH IS REGIONAL MIXED USE PLACE TYPE. 
          SO I DO THINK THAT THERE IS SPACE FOR, FOR BUFFER AND ADDITIONAL BUFFER HERE, REGIONAL MIXED USE IS THE PLACE TYPE THAT IS MOST INTENSE IN TERMS OF, OF MIXED USE DENSITY OUTSIDE OF, OF, OF CENTRAL CORE, UH, REGIONAL MIXED USE IS THE 6 35 CORRIDOR, THE 75 CORRIDOR, OR THE DESIGN DISTRICT, THAT KIND OF THING. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT PARTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TRANSITIONING TO A HUNDRED FEET NORTH. 
          'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S HARVEST, IT'S REGIONAL MIXED USE HARVEST HILL, UH, TH ZONING WITH 36 FEET IN HEIGHT, AND THEN THIS RTN WITH A SLIGHTLY LOWER HEIGHT. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE TRANSITION AND PART OF THE BUFFER THAT IS WORTH CONSIDERING. 
          AND SO PART OF MY CONCERN IS I COULD STAND IN THE FRONT YARD OF THIS PROPERTY AND THROW A STONE 
          [00:45:01]
INTO MY DISTRICT AND, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, I UNDERSTAND MR. CHAIR STAFF POINT OF ORDER. 
          WE, WE, I BELIEVE ONLY QUESTIONS ARE PERMITTED AT THIS TIME. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          CAN YOU KEEP IT TO QUESTION, I'M GETTING TO THAT. 
          IF YOU'LL, IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME FOR JUST A MINUTE. 
          SO, SO WE STAFF TALKS ABOUT PRECEDENT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS CASE, IS THERE POTENTIAL THAT WE WOULD SEE THE SAME THING DRIFTING INTO 13 ACROSS THE STREET? UH, THE WAY I'D ANSWER THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF PRECEDENT, UH, WE DON'T USE PRECEDENTS IN ZONING CASES THE WAY THAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, IN THE LEGAL WORLD, RIGHT? WHERE YOU CAN SAY, WELL, HERE'S A CASE AND HERE'S A CASE AND HERE'S A STATUTE. 
          AND YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE PRECEDENCE, THE COURT WILL RULE THIS WAY. 
          RIGHT? UM, WHAT I DO SAY GENERALLY IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE TWO CASES THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR, SIMILAR FATS ON THE GROUND, SIMILAR SIGHTING, ET CETERA, GENERALLY NOT JUST CITING BUT THE SAME PLACE TYPE IN THE COMM IN THE, IN THE FORWARD DALLAS PLAN, YOU KNOW, THE MORE SIMILAR TWO CASES ARE GENERALLY THE MORE SIMILAR, I THINK THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO BE. 
          UH, THAT'S THE MOST THAT I WOULD SAY IN TERMS OF HOW QUOTE UNQUOTE PRECEDENTS APPLIES. 
          UH, WE DON'T SIMPLY SAY, WELL, THERE WAS THIS ZONING CASE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THAT WAS APPROVED, SO THEREFORE WE RECOMMEND IT. 
          UM, BUT IF THE FACTS ON THE GROUND GENERALLY WOULD SUPPORT THE SAME RECOMMENDATION, YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THE SAME RECOMMENDATION IS HOW I'D PUT IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT I DO THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY, AND YOU CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE THAT THIS BODY HEARS APPLICANTS REFERENCING PRECEDENT, ALL THE, THEY WANT TO MAKE, THEY WANNA LOOK AT THE PRECEDENT. 
          CORRECT. 
          I THINK APPLICANTS REFER TO THAT AND THEY'LL, THEY'LL REFER TO ALL SORTS OF THINGS. 
          UM, THAT'S THEIR PREROGATIVE. 
          THEY CAN, THEY CAN REFER TO WHAT THEY LIKE. 
          UH, BUT ULTIMATELY FROM THE, FROM THE WAY STAFF REVIEWS CASES IS WE DO LOOK AT THEM EACH SORT OF IN, NOT IN A SILO, BUT JUST BASED ON THE MERITS OF THAT PARTICULAR SITE, WHAT'S AROUND THAT PARTICULAR SITE, HOW THAT SITE'S DESIGNATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ET CETERA. 
          UM, WHETHER THIS BODY OR CITY COUNCIL FOLLOWS THAT OR ALSO USES, UH, PREVIOUS DECISIONS TO INFORM THEIR DECISION MAKING, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY UP TO THE MEMBERS OF THOSE BODIES. 
          AND I, I THINK, I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK THAT PRECEDENT MIGHT BE KIND OF A, A REACTIONARY WAY TO DO LAND USE. 
          I THINK THAT THE PROACTIVE WAY OF DOING LAND USE IS FOLLOWING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE VERY MUCH HAVE TO RELY ON PRECEDENT BECAUSE PRECEDENT WOULD BE REACTING TO, OH, THAT'S HAPPENED, THAT'S HAPPENED. 
          THIS, THAT'S HAPPENED. 
          BUT PROACTIVE IS WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A VISION OF, FOR DALLAS LAND USE PLAN THAT SAYS, THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GO. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO REACT. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT DRIVEN BY PRECEDENT AMONG OTHER THINGS. 
          EVERY SITE IS DIFFERENT. 
          OF COURSE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE STAFF REFERS TO CORNER LOTS AS BEING, I'LL USE THE TERM FAIR GAME. 
          AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I'M CONCERNED THAT HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT, THAT SOMEHOW IT'S OKAY TO BUILD WHATEVER ON, ON CORNER LOTS. 
          IS THAT THE POSITION OF STAFF? I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S OKAY TO BUILD WHATEVER ON A CORNER LOT, UH, BUT JUST BASED ON JUST THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE GUIDANCE WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, WITHIN COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, CORNER LOTS ALONG, ESPECIALLY ALONG THOROUGH AFFAIRS, THOSE WERE IDENTIFIED AS BEING POTENTIALLY APPROPRIATE FOR, UH, GREATER DENSITY. 
          UM, AGAIN, WITHIN, WITHIN COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL, THE PRIMARY LAND USE IS STILL, UH, SINGLE FAMILY AT, UH, ATTACHED AND DETACHED. 
          UH, SO THOSE ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE THERE. 
          THE SECONDARY USE IS THAT I THINK INCLUDES, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IS MULTIPLEX, THAT'S ONE OF THE USES THAT'S BELOW? YEAH, THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE SECONDARY USES, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS, OKAY, FOR SECONDARY USES WITHIN THIS PLACE TYPE FOR COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL, WHERE THEY'RE GENERALLY GONNA BE MOST APPROPRIATE IS ALONG A CORNER ALONG WITH THOROUGHFARE. 
          UM, AND I'D SAY, SO LONG AS THAT'S HOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS WRITTEN, THAT'S GOING TO INFORM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I JUST CLOSE BY SAYING THAT FORWARD DALLAS ALSO REFERENCED ITS COMPATIBILITY AS WELL. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. BAY. 
          COUPLE QUESTIONS REALLY QUICK. 
          UM, FOR DALLAS DID COVER SOME HISTORICAL VALUES OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND, AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, CORRECT? UH, YES IT DOES. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY, WE RECOGNIZED THAT THERE WAS A GREAT MOVE OF MIGRATION FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH AT SOME POINT. 
          UM, WOULD YOU SAY THE SHAN ROAD FAMILY WAS THERE BEFORE THIS MIGRATION? BEFORE THE WHAT? THE, THE MIGRATION TO THE NORTH? UH, UNFORTUNATELY, 
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I'M JUST, I'M NOT AS WELL VERSED ON THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF SHAN ROAD. 
          UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS, UM, IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PLACES WHERE BLACK RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE PROPERTY AND BUILD THEIR HOUSES. 
          AND I KNOW THEY CERTAINLY WENT THROUGH A LOT TO YOU AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND OKAY, SO WOULD YOU SAY THAT THEY HELD ONTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR AT LEAST 75 YEARS? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S PROBABLY CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. B, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON IS THE SUBJECT SITE AT LEAST HALF A BLOCK, IS IT HALF A BLOCK? CORRECT. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW SHAN AS A, AS A BLOCK FACE, IT GOES FROM PRESTON TO JAMESTOWN. 
          MONTFORD JAMESTOWN, OR IS IT MO MONTFORD, I BELIEVE, AND IT, IT'S 25,000 SQUARE FEET OF LAND, BUT IT DOES GO FROM SHAN ROAD TO THE ALLEY AND THEN PRESTON ON THE EAST. 
          BUT IS IT HALF A BLOCK? DOES THAT TAKE, DOES THAT SITE TAKE UP HALF OF THAT BLOCK? NO, IT'S, UH, THE BLOCK, THE BLOCK IS PRETTY LONG. 
          IT'S LIKE A BLOCK THAT'S, UH, 2000 FEET LONG, LET'S SAY. 
          AND THIS REZONING IS 170 FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS I'M STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND, I'M LOOKING AT R AND T AND IT SAYS IT MUST BE APPLIED AS A BUFFER OF AT LEAST HALF A BLOCK IN DEPTH BETWEEN MU, I'M SORRY, WMU OR OUR W DISTRICT THAT ABUTS OR ACROSS OUR JOINING IT YEAH. 
          FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY. 
          SO IF, IF THAT'S WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, HOW IS THIS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL IF THE SITE IS NOT HALF A BLOCK? I, I KNOW THE, THE SECTION YOU'RE REFERRING TO, I THINK WE'VE KIND OF READ IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND IN THAT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO FROM, IF YOU'RE DOING A LARGE REZONING, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT LAYING OUT A LARGE FORM-BASED AREA, FORM-BASED WORKS WELL AS A SYSTEM, WE'VE READ THAT TO MEAN YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT'S WMU, UH, AS YOU TRANSITION, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT STEP. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE'VE READ IT KIND OF THE, THE OTHER WAY. 
          IF WHEN YOU ARE DOING A, A LARGE PLAN FOR AN AREA, UM, THAT'S THE WAY YOU APPLY IT IS, IS THAT IF, IF WE'RE LAYING DOWN NICE, NEAT ROWS OF TRANSITIONS, THAT'S HOW IT, IT SHOULD BE APPLIED, NOT NECESSARILY ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS, BUT AS, AS YOU LAY OUT AN AREA, A LARGER AREA TO BE FORM-BASED. 
          I, I'M NOT SURE THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. 
          IT SAYS THE R AND T DISTRICT MUST BE APPLIED AS A BUFFER OF AT LEAST HALF A BLOCK IN DEPTH BETWEEN A PROPOSED WMU OR W DISTRICT THAT ABUTS OR AS A CROSS ROOM AND ADJOINING ALLEY OR MINOR STREET FROM ANY SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO I READ THAT TO SAY THE RTN DISTRICT MUST BE AT LEAST HALF A BLOCK. 
          RIGHT? I, AND I WILL SAY THAT THAT'S NOT HOW WE'VE APPLIED IT IN THE PAST, BUT THE THOUGHT BEING, IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUR WMU OR UW ARE NEAR AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, THAT IS THE RECOMMENDED METHOD OF, OF BUFFERING THAT SINGLE FAMILY TO, TO THE WMU. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT WHAT I, BUT I'M, I'M HEARING YOU SAY DESPITE THE VERY CLEAR LANGUAGE, MUST STAFF DOESN'T APPLY IT THAT WAY. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I I'M SAYING THAT I UNDER, WE UNDERSTAND THOSE TO BE INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO LAY OUT A GENERAL FORM-BASED AREA AND HOW TO APPLY THAT WHEN GOING ABOUT THAT STRATEGY. 
          WHEN, HOW DO YOU BUFFER A SINGLE FAMILY TO A WALK OF MIXED USE AREA? THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED STRATEGY BY BY CODE THERE, NOT LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL APPLICABILITY OF ONE DISTRICT. 
          AND I WILL SAY, I WILL JUST ADD, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, SEVEN, SEVEN-ISH EXAMPLES, THEY, RTN IS A, IS A BLOCK WHEN IT, EXCUSE ME, IS A VERY LARGE, IT'S A FULL NEIGHBORHOOD IN PD 4 68, UM, LAKE CLIFF AREA. 
          UH, THEN IT EXISTS AS A COUPLE. 
          AND, AND I'M ONLY CITING THESE NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE INDIVIDUAL CASES, BUT THIS WAS LAID OUT BY AN AUTHORIZED HEARING WHEN THEY PUT, UM, 4 68 TOGETHER AS A FORM BASED, UM, A COUPLE BLOCKS AND A COUPLE LOTS. 
          IT'S A LITTLE, UM, MIXED WHEN THEY DO IT IN, UM, THE AREA OF, I'M SORRY, BALLARD AND I CAN'T TELL THE OVER BY. 
          UM, IT KIND OF, THAT WAS, THAT WAS PUT IN AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE WMU THAT THEY HAVE AT THE METHODIST HOSPITAL. 
          AND AS WE GET CLOSER TO KIDS SPRINGS, UM, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, SOME OF THAT IS FULL BLOCK, SOME OF IT IS INDIVIDUAL. 
          UH, BUT THEN MORE 
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RECENTLY WE HAVE HAD INDIVIDUAL CASES USE IT, UM, TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX IN, UM, A WALKABLE FORMAT. 
          SO BACK TO COMMISSIONER COX QUESTION. 
          IT IS PRECEDENT. 
          I AM JUST, I'M TELLING YOU HOW WE'VE APPLIED IT, RIGHT? DESPITE THE CLEAR LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE, IT'S BEEN APPLIED TO SMALLER SITES, IS WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY. 
          I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENCE IN INTERPRETATION ON THE DIRECTION THAT THAT ORDINANCE IS GIVING. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS. 
          IS THERE, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THERE? YES, COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN? WELL, I'D, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON'S REMARKS BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL STREET AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO COME IN AND APPLY ZONING RULES AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WHEN YOU DON'T REALLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, WHICH I'VE NOT HEARD YET, THAT THAT'S BEEN DONE, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE HISTORICAL NATURE AND, AND THE WAY THAT PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT STREET. 
          SO IF WE'RE ALLOWING A VIOLATION OF, OF ANOTHER CODE TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND HAVE DIFFERENT ZONING PROCESSES AND NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT HISTORICAL NATURE AND THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF MACHAN, SHAN'S BEEN THERE FOR OVER 75 YEARS. 
          THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE, HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY PROTECTIVE OF IT. 
          AND THEY CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ MR. MR. CHAIR, I'M SORRY, POINT OF OREGON IS THE CHAIR OF THE RULES COMMITTEE. 
          I, I MUST OBJECT THAT OUR RULES REQUIRE THAT DEBATE BE LIMITED TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THIS IS QUESTIONS ONLY. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT, OR, OR MAYBE QUESTIONS TO STAFF, WHICH I'M ASKING AND APPLYING TO STAFF AGAIN, HOW MUCH OF THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF MACHAN PLAYED IN YOUR ROLE IN, IN TRYING TO GET THIS THING WORKED OUT? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND TO ME LIKE IT'S WORKED OUT WELL, I, I WILL SAY THE HISTORIC IS ONGOING THOUGH THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK WAS EXCLUDED FROM THE HISTORIC, THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION, UH, OR EXCUSE THIS LOT, NOT BLOCK. 
          UM, WE, YOU KNOW, ZONING AND LANDMARKING EXIST SOMEWHAT INDEPENDENTLY. 
          UH, YOU CAN HAVE A, A PROPERTY THAT HAS ZONING AND AN HISTORIC OVERLAY ON TOP OF IT. 
          HISTORIC IS AN OVERLAY IN OUR CITY. 
          UM, SO THEY CAN WORK IN TANDEM, THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, WORK FUNCTION SEPARATELY, BUT STILL BE, YOU KNOW, USABLE. 
          UM, SO GENERALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A LOT WITH OUR HISTORIC STAFF. 
          I DON'T WANT TO UNDER, UNDER, UM, CUT THAT CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITH OUR LANDMARK STAFF TO A DEGREE. 
          THEY SAID THE, THE PROTECTION IS NOT QUITE SO BASED ON THE ZONING ON THE GROUND. 
          UM, I MEAN, ONE OF OUR HISTORIC PLANNERS SAID IT'S NOT, WE DON'T REALLY CARE THAT MUCH ABOUT THE ZONING, ZONING ON THE GROUND. 
          WE CARE ABOUT GETTING A GOOD HISTORIC OVERLAY ORDINANCE IN PLACE. 
          THAT'S WHERE REAL HISTORIC PROTECTION OCCURS WHEN YOU HAVE A HISTORIC, UM, OVERLAY DONE, NOT SO MUCH THE ZONING. 
          DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MS. COFF? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER COFFMAN, MAYBE. 
          SO WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR APPLICATION TODAY, IF IT'S APPROVED, THAT'LL TAKE A WHOLE SECTION OF SHAN OUT OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AREA. 
          NO, WELL, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY BEEN TAKEN OUT LIKE THIS, THIS PARCEL AS WELL AS SOME OTHERS, THEY ALREADY OPTED OUT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BOUNDARIES. 
          UH, I BELIEVE THROUGH A, LIKE A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION EXEMPTION. 
          UH, SO REGARDLESS OF THE FINAL DISPOSITION OF THIS REQUEST, UH, IT WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THOSE BOUNDARIES. 
          UM, I GUESS UNLESS THE PROPERTY OWNERS CHOSE TO OPT IN AT SOME POINT. 
          BUT THEN THAT MIGHT REQUIRE CHANGE AT LANDMARK COMMISSION. 
          UH, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, REGARDLESS OF HOW THIS CASE IS ULTIMATELY, UM, ADJUDICATED, IT'S THAT PARCEL IS NOT GOING TO BE IN THE HISTORIC BOUNDARIES. 
          AND I, I JUST ADD THIS, THIS ZONING CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT HISTORIC OVERLAY REVIEW PROCESS. 
          IF THESE, IF THESE WERE, UH, NOT, SO LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, IF THEY WERE NOT EXCLUDED FROM THE HISTORIC OVERLAY AT CONSIDERATION, UM, THEN A HISTORIC OVERLAY COULD BE APPLIED TO THIS PROPERTY, WE COULD STILL REZONE IT UNDERNEATH. 
          THAT CHANGES THE USE AND SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE BUILT THERE. 
          BUT NOT EVERYTHING, BECAUSE IF THERE'S A HISTORIC OVERLAY THAT WAS APPLIED TO THIS PROPERTY IN A ROBUST WAY, IT WOULD LIMIT THINGS PROBABLY MORE THAN THE ZONING. 
          UM, BUT 
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THIS ZONING IS COM COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF IT. 
          UM, AND JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION, I THINK TO SIMPLIFY, OUTSIDE OF HISTORIC OVERLAYS OR APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORICAL OVERLAYS ON PROPERTIES AND THAT HAVE BEEN LONGSTANDING, DOES YOUR STAFF OR THE STAFF CONSIDER THE HISTORY OF THOSE PROPERTIES IN YOUR DECISION MAKING? I WILL SAY WE, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO STICK TO THE, THE BUILT FORM PRIMARILY WITH ZONING. 
          UM, WE DEFINITELY, IN A BIGGER SENSE, THINK ABOUT THAT. 
          WE SEND MOST OF OUR CASES THAT INCLUDE OLDER BUILDINGS AND DEMOS TO OUR HISTORIC SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF ZONING THAT'S GOING ON. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP GENERALLY TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. 
          THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT IS OFTEN TIED TO HISTORY. 
          IT'S NOT ALWAYS, SOMETIMES HISTORY HAPPENED ON A FIELD. 
          UM, AND THAT REQUIRES OTHER KINDS OF PROTECTIONS. 
          UM, BUT I THINK, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE WAY WE CAN SAY IT, UM, IS THAT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO BE FOCUSED ON THE BUILT FORM AND USES. 
          I THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. 
          BE, AND I'M GONNA SAY THIS AGAIN. 
          UM, IT'S A QUESTION, RIGHT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I BELIEVE IF I'M CORRECT, SHAN IS ONE STREET, ONE BLOCK LONG AND IT WAS ALL SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN THE HISTORICAL  TO WHAT IT WAS AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT PEOPLE CAN OPT OUT OF THAT ON THAT STREET. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAS HAPPENED. 
          AND SO IT'S NO LONGER ALL OF HAN, IT'S ONLY PART OF MACHAN. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS, IT HAS SOME MECHANISMS BY WHICH PROPERTY OWNERS CAN OPT OUT. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S A UNILATERAL UH, MECHANISM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS SOME EXEMPTION THAT'S AVAILABLE UNDER RELIGIOUS, UH, SINCERELY HELD RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, ET CETERA, THAT ALLOW YOU TO OPT OUT. 
          UM, THAT ALSO NOTE THE APPLICATION WAS FILED BEFORE, UH, IT WAS FILED LAST YEAR. 
          SO IT WAS BEFORE THE DESIGNATION PROCESS. 
          UH, GOT ROLLING. 
          UM, BUT I GUESS TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, YEAH, THERE'S WAYS, LIMITED WAYS WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS CAN TAKE THEMSELVES OUT OF A HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? PERFECT. 
          WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, I BELIEVE IS DISTRICT, UM, ONE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, MR. CHAIR, IF WE COULD GET A SPEED BRIEF AND AN UPDATE ON WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE LAST WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 
          LET'S GO PLEASE. 
          YES, I'LL ANNOUNCE THAT. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON HAS REENTERED THE CHAMBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          CASE Z 26 32. 
          OH, I MISSED A ZERO IN THERE. 
          WELL, 0 26 32. 
          IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PRIVATE RECREATION CLUB OR AREA ON PROPERTY ZONE PD ONE 60 TRACK ONE A ON THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST CORNERS OF WEST COUNTY STREET IN NORTH VERNON STREET, ABOUT AN ACRE IN SIZE, UH, OVER IN THE KID SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD AREA. 
          UH, THE COMMISSIONER'S REQUEST, I'LL SPEED BRIEF THIS. 
          UM, THE MAIN THING THAT HAS CHANGED IS THAT THEY DID UPDATE THEIR SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          DON'T THINK WE EVER BRIEFED THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE A FULL BRIEFING. 
          WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS. 
          THAT'S THE WHOLE WE WANT A FULL BRIEFING. 
          LET'S DO IT. 
          YEAH, YEAH, I CAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NON SPEED. 
          SO KID SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE AREA OF REQUESTS. 
          SO THERE ARE THREE LOTS, UH, THAT ARE INCLUDED IN IT. 
          UH, THESE ARE I THINK FOUR MORE TECHNICALLY. 
          SO THERE ARE THESE HERE ON THE CORNER OF CANTE, AND THEN THIS LOT IS OWNED BY THE APPLICANT AS WELL. 
          UH, THE ZONING, IT IS PD ONE 60, TRACT A TO THE NORTH IS R 75, WHICH IS A PUBLIC PARK. 
          AND THEN TO THE WEST IS CD ONE, UH, PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY. 
          AND THEN TO THE EAST IS PD EIGHT 30. 
          SORRY, I TO MOVE THIS REAL QUICK. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          PDA 30 SUB FOUR, WHICH HAS A MIX OF MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY. 
          UH, THE AREA OF REQUESTS DEVELOPED WITH TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND AN UNDEVELOPED LOT, AND THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS TO OPERATE A PRIVATE RECREATION CLUB, AND SO THEY HAVE REQUESTED A NEW SUP FOR A PRIVATE REC CLUB. 
          THESE ARE THE SITE PHOTOS SHOWING THE SITE. 
          HONESTLY, THEY'RE SITE PHOTOS. 
          SO THESE ARE THE SITE PHOTOS SHOWING THE PROPERTIES. 
          UH, THIS IS ON CANTY LOOKING SOUTH AT THE PROPERTY ON, UH, THE SOUTHEAST 
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CORNER OF CANTY AND VERNON, AND THEN SHOWING THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY LOOKING NORTHEAST AWAY FROM THE SITE IN NORTHWEST DOWN CANTY AND ON CANTY AND VERNON LOOKING SOUTH WITH THE OTHER PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PHOTO. 
          THEN LOOKING TOWARDS CANTE AND VERNON. 
          LOOKING AWAY FROM THAT TOWARDS THE RECREATION CENTER IN PUBLIC PARK. 
          THEN THIS IS ON VERNON, LOOKING WEST AT THE OTHER MAIN, UH, BUILDING LOOKING WEST, AND THEN LOOKING NORTH ON VERNON. 
          UH, SO THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS, UH, THE TIME PERIOD THAT'S PROPOSED IS ONE YEAR WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR THE THREE YEAR AUTO RENEWALS. 
          UH, THE HOURS ARE EIGHT TO EIGHT P 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING AN ALLOWANCE TO OPERATE UNTIL 10:00 PM ONCE A MONTH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING JUST A FIXED 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM HOURS. 
          OUTSIDE SPEAKERS WOULD BE PROHIBITED. 
          GAME COURTS ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR AN EXISTING BASKETBALL HOOP. 
          UH, THE SWIMMING POOL IS RESTRICTED TO MEMBERS OF THE PRIVATE CLUB. 
          THE FLOOR AREA IS LIMITED TO THE CURRENT SPACE, UH, 6,005 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA. 
          UH, OUTDOOR LIGHTING MUST BE DOWN FIRING, SO ANY OUTDOOR LIGHTING CAN'T SPILL OVER ONTO OTHER PROPERTIES AND SCREENING WOULD BE REQUIRED AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN. 
          UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN AND THE SCREENING IS INDICATED ON HERE THROUGH, UH, LITTLE X MARKS, KIND OF LIKE, LOOKS LIKE BARBED WIRE. 
          UH, THE DETAILS HERE SHOWS IT A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY. 
          UH, SO THE SCREENING WOULD BE REQUIRED REALLY WHEREVER THERE'S ADJACENCIES FOR THESE PROPERTIES. 
          ADJACENCIES TO THE OTHER, UH, HOUSES, OH, ALONG HERE, I BELIEVE THERE'S ALREADY FENCING, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL SCREENING DOWN HERE. 
          UH, SO FORWARD NOW DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL AND GENERALLY, OF COURSE, COST FOR RESIDENTIAL USES WITH MIXED USES AS A SECONDARY GENERALLY RECOMMENDS THAT THEY BE PLACED ALONG KEY INTERSECTIONS OR MAJOR ROADWAYS. 
          SO WE DO KNOW THAT IT IS ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC PARK WITH RECREATION CENTER AND AQUATIC CENTER AND IS ADJACENT AS WELL TO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. 
          NOW, THE USE WOULD BE LIMITED TO MEMBERS OF THE PRIVATE RECREATION CLUB. 
          UH, THERE IS NO MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR PRIVATE REC CLUB AND THERE IS STREET PARKING AVAILABLE. 
          THERE ARE SOME OFF STREET PARKING SPACES ON THE SITE AS WELL, JUST OWING TO HOW IT'S BEEN BUILT AND CONFIGURED. 
          AND WE DO NOTE VERNON CANTY ARE BOTH LOCAL STREETS NOT ON THE THIRD OR FAIR PLAN. 
          NOW, THE SITE PLAN AND THE CONDITIONS, UH, THEY DO RETAIN THE EXISTING STRUCTURES RATHER THAN DEVELOPING NEW ONES. 
          UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WEIGHED PRETTY HEAVILY WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE IS THAT IN TERMS OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THE SORT OF EXPERIENCE THAT ONE WOULD SEE IF THIS SAP WERE GRANTED IS THAT IT WOULDN'T BE A NEW BUILD. 
          IT WOULDN'T BE A COMMERCIAL LOOKING THING. 
          IT WOULDN'T BE A, YOU KNOW, A SQUARE BOX GYM OR SOMETHING. 
          UH, IT WOULD BE THESE TWO HOUSES THAT ARE THERE. 
          UH, THE CONDITIONS, THE LIMITATION ON HOURS IS INTENDED TO REDUCE THE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, THAT'S PART OF WHY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE STRAIGHT EIGHT TO EIGHT. 
          UH, THE PROHIBITION OF OUTDOOR SPEAKERS ALSO DOES LIMIT THE NOISE IMPACT. 
          UH, WHEN YOU DON'T ALLOW OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, THEN INHERENTLY YOU'RE GONNA JUST CUT DOWN ON THE NOISE THAT CAN BE GENERATED RELATIVELY, UH, THE PROPOSED TIME PERIOD. 
          IT DOES ALLOW FOR A QUICK REVIEW OF THE IMPACT AS WELL. 
          UH, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT HERE BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, IT IS, IT'S ALLOWED BY SUP. 
          SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY THAT IMP APPLIES. 
          THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR COMPATIBILITY THERE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU WANNA REVIEW HOW THIS IS IMPACTING THE NEIGHBORS. 
          UH, THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL PROCESS, THE WAY THAT WORKS IS THAT WHEN IT'S UP FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, UH, THE APPLICANT FILES FOR IT AND THEN WE SEND OUT A NOTICE TO OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. 
          UH, THEY HAVE 21 DAYS TO RESPOND TO THAT NOTICE, AND IF 20% OF THE LAND AREA, UH, IS AGAINST IT, THEN THAT TRIGGERS THE FULL AMENDMENT PROCESS. 
          SO THE SUP AMENDMENTS THAT WE USUALLY SEE HERE FOR TIME PERIODS, ET CETERA, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THAT. 
          UM, IF 20% DON'T REACH, IF IT DOESN'T REACH 20%, THEN WE WOULD GRANT THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR THE, UH, THREE YEAR PERIOD OR WHATEVER PERIOD IS FOUND APPROPRIATE BASED ON, UH, THIS BODY OR CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIR, UH, A QUICK PROCEDURE QUESTION. 
          MR. BADDEN, YOU MAY, YOU MAY NEED THIS. 
          MR. PAP, I KNOW THAT WE, WE NOTIFIED ON 300 FEET ON THE INITIAL APPLICATION. 
          YOU JUST SAID IT'S 200 FEET ON THE, UH, DO WE KNOW IS, IS THAT DISCREPANCY IN THE CODE A AND THEN B, IS IT WITHIN THE POWER OF THIS BODY TO INCREASE THE NOTIFICATION AREA FOR A RENEWAL? THE, SO THE DISCREPANCY, YES. 
          IT'S BECAUSE OF CODE. 
          OUR CODE PUTS IN A 300 FOOT REQUIREMENT WHEN IT'S GREATER THAN ONE ACRE, UH, WHICH THIS JUST CLOCKS IN OVER AN ACRE. 
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UH, BUT THEN THE CODE ALSO FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS IS, IT IS ONLY 200 FEET. 
          UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE CAN MODIFY THAT DISTANCE THROUGH THE SEP CONDITIONS. 
          I'M GONNA LOOK AT MY SENIOR. 
          YEP. 
          THEY'RE SAYING NO. 
          UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT BE MODIFIABLE THROUGH THE CONDITIONS. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          AND I, I VENTURED A BET THAT THEY PUT THAT 200 FOOT INTO MIRROR, THE STATE CODE OF 20% OPPOSITION, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, IT'S KIND OF THE SAME LOGIC. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, MR. CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, WITH ALL OF THE LAND NORTH OF THIS, UM, PROPERTY BEING A CITY PARK, WOULD IT EVER BE POSSIBLE FOR NEIGHBORS TO REACH THE 20% THRESHOLD? I THINK THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST 'CAUSE WITH IT BEING A 200 FOOT RADIUS, UH, SOME OF IT OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T INC IT DOESN'T EXTEND INTO THE CITY PARK THERE. 
          UM, I WOULD'VE TO GET GIS TO, UH, TO RUN THAT. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD SURMISE TO GUESS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE, 'CAUSE THE CITY NEVER REPLIES TO THE FORMS, RIGHT. 
          BUT IF, I WOULD THINK IF THERE WERE ENOUGH OF A, I THINK TO GET AT THE CRUX OF THIS, IF IT WERE ENOUGH OF A NUISANCE, I BELIEVE THAT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, IF THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION, IT WOULD PROBABLY GET IT OVER 20%. 
          I WOULD SHOW THE ZONING MAP WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE AREA REQUEST. 
          'CAUSE A LOT OF IT CUTS SOUTH AND, AND WEST THAT'S FURTHER AWAY FROM THE PARK. 
          IT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR, UM, GIS GENERALLY RUN. 
          YEAH, I CAN PULL THAT UP REAL QUICK, BUT, BUT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE MUCH OF THE, THE BULK OF THE AREA IS, IS STILL TO THE SOUTH WHERE IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY MAINLY JUST A MOMENT WHILE I PULL UP THE AGENDA AND THE REPORT. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT I, ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THIS IS THE NOTIFICATION AREA AS IS, UM, AT 300 FEET, UM, LET'S SAY 200 FEET I BELIEVE WOULD GO DOWN TO AROUND HERE, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, YOU KNOW, EASTERN PORTION, PROBABLY AROUND HERE FOR THE WESTERN AND SOUTHERN, BUT IT WOULD ALSO PULL IN THIS NORTHERN PORTION AS WELL. 
          UH, SO LOOKING AT THAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S PROPERTY THERE PROBABLY WOULD MAKE UP, THAT PROBABLY MAKES UP ABOUT 20% OF THE LAND AREA OVERALL. 
          UH, BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE, I WOULD SAY ALL THIS HERE THAT I WOULD SURMISE ADDS UP TO AT LEAST 20. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, MOVING ON. 
          GIVEN THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT'S LONG HISTORY HERE OF ILLEGAL OPERATION AND MISREPRESENTING THE NATURE OF WHAT ARE COMMERCIAL EVENTS AS PRIVATE EVENTS AND BEING UNDER AN ORDER FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO SHUT DOWN THIS SPRING, WHICH HE'S NOT COMPLIED WITH, WHY IS AUTORENEW EVEN BEING CONSIDERED? I WILL SAY WE TYPICALLY ARE STUCK TO LOOKING AT LAND USE. 
          WE DO NOT LOOK AT THE OPERATOR, UM, THE OPERATOR'S HISTORY, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAND USE. 
          CAN THIS LAND USE AS DEFINED, UH, FIT IN THAT BOUND AND THOSE, UH, AND THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE SET FOR IT? THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION, UM, WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE OPERATOR. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, GIVEN THAT A PRIVATE RECREATION USE HAS CONSIDERABLE, UM, OPPORTUNITY TO BE A NUISANCE WHEN EMBEDDED INTO A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHY WAS THAT NOT LOOKED AT, UM, AS A FACTOR IN DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE OR RECOMMEND AUTO RENEWALS? BECAUSE THE AUTO RENEWAL PROCESS AS, AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES IS DIFFICULT FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO, UM, HIT THAT THRESHOLD AND MOVE THAT TO A FULL ZONING HEARING. 
          THIS WOULD SEEM A CASE WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK TO THE FULL CP UH, THE FULL SEP PROCESS AFTER A DESIGNATED TIME IF IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED, WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE THAN GOING THROUGH AUTO RENEWALS. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST KIND OF AS MICHAEL PUT IT, I THINK THE, YOU CAN CALL IT THE PLATONIC IDEAL OF A, OF A USE, RIGHT? UH, WELL THE USE ALSO ISN'T TIED TO A SPECIFIC OPERATOR, IT'S JUST THE USE. 
          RIGHT, 
          [01:15:01]
EXACTLY. 
          SO, SO THE OPERATOR COULD CHANGE. 
          THAT IS TRUE WHENEVER THAT IS TRUE. 
          UH, WE WOULD SAY THAT GIVEN I THINK SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE SUP ESPECIALLY, I THINK AROUND WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION OF HOURS OF OPERATION AS WELL AS THE LIMITATIONS ON OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, ON THE LIGHTING, ET CETERA, UH, WE DON'T FORESEE IT FOLLOWING ALL THAT AND FOLLOWING UNDER WHAT A PRIVATE REC CLUB IS. 
          UH, WE, WE DIDN'T REALLY FORESEE IT AS BEING, AS THAT USE WRIT LARGE, UH, AS BEING HIGH RISK FOR DISRUPTION. 
          WE'RE AWARE OF, I THINK THE BROADER HISTORY AROUND THAT. 
          UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY AWARE OF IT, UH, BUT AS MICHAEL PUT IT, UH, WE DO HAVE TO KIND OF JUST LOOK AT THE USE WRIT LARGE. 
          UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY PULL IN THE SPECIFIC OPERATOR INTO ACCOUNT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL WAIT TILL THE HEARING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. 
          I JUST HAD TWO QUESTIONS. 
          UM, ONE, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          I THOUGHT THE BRIEFING, UM, SHOWED THREE YEAR INITIAL PERIOD WITH THREE YEAR AUTO, BUT THE CONDITIONS I SEE SHOW ONE YEAR, AND I MAY HAVE JUST READ PAST THAT TOO QUICKLY, BUT WANTED TO CONFIRM. 
          YEAH, IT SHOULD BE ONE YEAR. 
          LEMME JUST TRIPLE CHECK MY PROPOSED CONDITIONS. 
          IT IS OUR POSTING, OUR POSTING SAYS ONE WITH THREE YEAR AR AFTER THAT POINT. 
          PERFECT THINKING SAID, WE'D LOVE TO SEE THEM COME THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND GET ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN PLACE. 
          AND THEN THE MR. PEPE, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW IS THAT IT SAID ONE YEAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I KNOW WE'RE, WE'VE GOT A FEW OTHER THINGS TO GET THROUGH. 
          UM, MR. BAY, OTHER QUESTION. 
          UM, I UH, SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THIS. 
          I CAN ASK THEM AT THE HEARING AS WELL. 
          THE FLOOR AREA IS DEFINED. 
          YOU HAVE THE FLOOR AREA AND THE LOT AREAS FOR THE TWO TRACKS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT IF I DO THE MATH, THERE'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL GREEN AREA, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS SERVES, YOU KNOW, SPORT COURT, UM, NOT SPORT COURT, BUT USED FOR OTHER RECREATION, BUT IT'S UNDEVELOPED. 
          IF I DO THE MATH OF TRACK TWO VERSUS THE 3000 SQUARE FEET, SORRY, 3,175, I COME TO 10% LOT COVERAGE AND THERE'S 20% SHOWN. 
          COULD YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND? I AM GUESSING WHAT IT IS, IS THAT THEY ONLY CALCULATED IT ON THE LOT THAT IT'S ON, BUT LOT TWO PICKS UP THAT OPEN SPACE. 
          SO DOES THAT NEED TO BE SEPARATELY DESIGNATED? I'M SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO, I THINK UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. 
          SAY PROPERLY CAN SAY ALL AGAIN. 
          SO WE HAVE A FLOOR AREA LIMIT FOR 6,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS THE TOTAL, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA DEFINITION OF FLOOR AREA IS ONLY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LITERALLY THE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THINGS THAT ARE ACCESSORY OR THINGS LIKE PARKING AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THOSE AREAS IN IN ANY SUP. 
          SO IT'S NOT GONNA INCLUDE ANY OUTDOOR AREAS, RIGHT. 
          IT ONLY INCLUDES STRUCTURES. 
          SO HOW DOES THIS THEN ALIGN WITH A NOTED FLOOR AREA OF 3,175 FOR TRACK TWO, A TOTAL SITE AREA OF TRACK TWO OF 31,422. 
          IF YOU DIVIDE THAT, IT'S ROUGHLY 10% AND IT'S NOTED IT'S 20%. 
          I SEE WHERE YOU'RE SAYING HERE WITH THE LOT COVER. 
          OKAY. 
          WITHIN THE SITE PLAN DATA TABLE. 
          UM, NO, THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. 
          UM, THE LOT COVERAGE, UH, I'LL SAY THAT WITH A DISCREPANCY THERE, THE FLOOR AREA LIMIT WOULD STILL APPLY. 
          UM, THEY WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO DO 6,005 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA ACROSS THE WHOLE SITE. 
          UM, I SUPPOSE IF THEY MOVED CERTAIN THINGS AROUND, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, STILL ACCOMPLISH THAT. 
          UH, CERTAINLY WE COULD RECOMMEND, UH, A MODIFICATION TO THE SITE PLAN TO CORRECTLY REFLECT THE CURRENT LOT COVERAGE, UM, TO LIMIT THAT DOWN TO, TO MIRROR WHAT IT CURRENTLY HAS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO STAFF HAS NO CONCERN ABOUT DEFINING OPEN SPACE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT REMAINS ESSENTIALLY AS A BUFFER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I RECOGNIZE WE HAVE SCREENING AND THAT GOT ADDED AND I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          UM, BUT THAT IS THE PURPOSE IT SERVES TODAY. 
          SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE RELATED QUESTION. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE'D BE FINE WITH, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO CHAIN TO MODIFY THE SITE PLAN TO REDUCE THE LOT COVERAGE ON TRACK TWO TO REFLECT THE EXISTING THE LOT COVERAGE. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT'S ONLY FOR, UM, FOR STRUCTURES. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, WE CAN THANK YOU. 
          WE WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH THAT. 
          THANK YOU MR. BAIT. 
          MR. PEPE, MR. CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? PERFECT. 
          UM, I THINK THAT ONE QUICK QUESTION. 
          SORRY, CHAIR. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER COLS. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE APPLICANT REQUESTING CONDITION FOR ONE EVENT UNTIL 10:00 PM NO MORE THAN ONE TIME PER MONTH. 
          [01:20:02]
I DON'T SEE THAT REPEATED IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          ARE YOU, IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDING THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN? WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION BE 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, UH, WITH NO, UH, WITHOUT THAT PROVISION YOU COULD DO ANY PRIVATE RECREATION CLUB ACTIVITY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF EIGHT AND EIGHT UNDER OUR RECOMMENDED CONDITION. 
          THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED CONDITION WOULD ALLOW ONCE A MONTH TO GO UNTIL 10:00 PM UM, AND I THINK CERTAINLY THAT'D BE AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE AT THE HEARING. 
          UH, FOR FURTHER DETAIL ON THAT, I'D ALSO BE CONCERNED ABOUT ENFORCEABILITY AT, AT THAT POINT. 
          YEAH, ENFORCE ENFORCEABILITY IS TOUGH AS WELL. 
          WHO, WHO LOGS WHEN IT'S BEING DONE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'D BE REGISTERING. 
          UM, I THINK REGULAR HOURS ARE PRETTY EASIER FOR THINGS LIKE CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY, BUT YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE TRICKIER TO, TO GO CHECK ON THEM EVERY NIGHT. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COES. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THAT WRAPS UP, UM, THE CASES THIS MORNING WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT COMING. 
          DO YOU GUYS WANT THAT BRIEF NOW OR MAYBE AT THE HEARING LOOSENING UP? LET'S, LET'S DO IT. 
          MR. WADE, YOU WANNA BRIEF IT NOW? YEAH, I HAVE A FEW MINUTES BEFORE LUNCH IS GONNA BE THE FIRST ONE. 
          LUNCH IS HIS DISTRICT THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          ABOUT. 
          YEAH. 
          WELL I THINK THAT THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          LET ME PULL UP THE PRESENTATION PLEASE. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU MICHAEL WADE, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, I'M HUNGRY LIKE EVERYBODY, SO I'LL HIT THE HIGH POINTS ON THIS AND HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS AS WELL. 
          THIS IS, I'M SORRY, THIS IS DCA 2 5 6 0 0 7 TATTOO PARLORS AND ARTICLE 13. 
          THIS IS JUST THE LABEL OF THIS CODE AMENDMENT. 
          WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT BODY PEARSON SHOPS. 
          I'M GONNA PUT YOU IN FULL SCREEN. 
          YOU GET TWO MICHAELS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE AND THE DOLLAR STORE VERSION. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          THIS WAS AUTHORIZED BY CITY COUNCIL ON MARCH 25TH, 2026, SPECIFICALLY TO CONSIDER REMOVING TATTOO OR BODY PIERCING AS AN EXAMPLE OF PROHIBITED PERSONAL SERVICE USE IN CHAPTER 51, A ARTICLE 13 FORM DISTRICTS AND ADDING IT TO THE LIST OF EXAMPLES OF PERMITTED PERSONAL SERVICE USES. 
          THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF TATTOO OR BODY PIERCING SHOP, NOTHING, UM, SURPRISING THERE. 
          INFORMED DISTRICTS, SO THIS IS ARTICLE 13. 
          LAND USE CATEGORIES ARE ALLOWED FOR DEVELOPMENT TYPE AND DEVELOPMENT TYPES ARE ALLOWED FOR DISTRICTS. 
          SO I THINK THIS BODY WORKS WITH THESE, BUT JUST FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS NOT AS FAMILIAR, UH, PERSONAL SERVICE USES ARE FACILITIES INVOLVED IN PROVIDING PERSONAL SERVICES OR REPAIR SERVICES TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          SO THIS IS A, A BROAD CATEGORY AND THE CODE ONLY LISTS EXAMPLES OF WHAT THIS LAND USE IS. 
          UM, EXAMPLES OF COURSE INCLUDE, UM, CHILDCARE CENTER, BARBER BEAUTY SHOP, UH, BICYCLE REPAIR SHOP, A POLLSTER. 
          SO THIS PERSONAL SERVICE LAND USE CATEGORY IS ALLOWED IN MIXED USE SHOP FRONT AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TYPES, WHICH ARE ALLOWED IN WMU DISTRICTS. 
          PERSONAL SERVICES ARE ALSO ALLOWED IN SINGLE STORY SHOP FRONT DEVELOPMENT TYPES, WHICH IS ALLOWED IN THE LOWER INTENSITY WMU AND WR UH, DISTRICTS EXCEPT FOR TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING AND MASSAGE PARLOR AND TAXIDERMIST. 
          THIS IS IN, UH, A CONTRAST TO ARTICLE FOUR. 
          ARTICLE FOUR IS, UH, THE, THE GRAND BULK OF THE REST OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          UH, PERSONAL SERVICE USES HAS A SIMILAR DEFINITION THAT INCLUDES SOME EXAMPLES. 
          THESE, UH, PERSONAL SERVICE USES ARE ALLOWED BY W, RIGHT IN MOST NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, INCLUDING MIXED USE DISTRICTS ARE MU DISTRICTS. 
          AND THEN BY AS A LIMITED USE ONLY IN MF THREE, MF FOUR 
          [01:25:01]
IN THE OFFICE DISTRICTS. 
          JUST A REMINDER OF THE INTENT OF THESE ARTICLE FOUR, ARTICLE 13, UH, DISTRICTS, THESE ARE THE FORM DISTRICTS. 
          THEY'RE INTENDED TO ESTABLISH THE FORM AND THEN HAVE GREATER FLEXIBILITY FOR THE LAND USES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THOSE, UH, WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE, WALKABLE URBAN RESIDENTIAL SHOPFRONT OVERLAY. 
          THESE ARE JUST LINKS FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE IT IN THE CODE AFTER THIS PRESENTATION. 
          THE GRAND BULK OF THESE ARTICLE 13 DISTRICTS ARE, UH, REALLY JUST PD 8 87 GALLERIA AREA SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT AND PD 4 68 OAK CLIFF GATEWAY SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT. 
          UH, THESE BIG PINK BLOBS INCLUDE SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, ARTICLE 13 DISTRICTS WITHIN THE PDS AND THEN YOU SEE THEM SPOTTED ALSO, UH, NORTH OF DOWNTOWN UP TOWARD LOVE FIELD DOWN IN CEDAR CREST AND SOUTH DALLAS, AND THEN FARTHER SOUTHWEST IN THE CITY WITH A SMALL INSTANCE IN DISTRICT FIVE AND THEN NORTH, UH, IN DISTRICT 11 STAFF. 
          AND OACS RECOMMENDATION WAS TO STRIKE TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING FROM THE LIST OF EXAMPLE OF PROHIBITED USES AND ADD IT TO THE LIST OF EXAMPLES OF PERMITTED USES. 
          THIS IS BASED PRIMARILY, UH, ON CONFORMITY WITH THE INTENT OF ARTICLE 13 FORM DISTRICTS THAT IS, UH, ESTABLISHING THE BUILT FORM AND THEN PROVIDING FLEXIBILITY TO THE LAND USES THEREIN. 
          IT'S ALSO BASED ON SIMILARITY TO, TO THE OTHER PERMITTED ARTICLE 13 PERSONAL SERVICE EXAMPLES. 
          WE DON'T THINK THIS ONE STICKS OUT VERY MUCH. 
          AND THEN CONFORMITY TO HOW WE TREAT, UH, TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING IN ARTICLE FOUR. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PERFECT. 
          EVERYONE CAN NOW BE PERMITTED TO HAVE A TATTOO. 
          NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE A FEW OTHER CERTIFICATES AND STREET NAME CHANGES. 
          IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND. 
          WE CAN BRIEF THOSE AT THE HEARING. 
          HEARING THAT THIS IS THE CLOSE OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION BRIEFING AT 11:35 PM WE'LL BE BACK AT 12 FOR THE HEARING. 
          1230. 
          1230 FOR THE HEARING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          EVERY MINUTE COUNTS. 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELCOME TO, UM, THIS AFTERNOON'S HEARING FOR THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION. 
          UM, COUPLE GROUND RULES IF YOU HAVE, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 
          IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK, THERE'S SOME YELLOW CARDS I BELIEVE, UM, DOWN HERE. 
          IF YOU FEEL THAT OUT AND PLACE THAT CARD BACK IN THE BOX, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK YOUR ATTENDANCE HERE. 
          UM, IF YOU DO GET A CHANCE TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK, BE SURE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF, NAME AND ADDRESS, UM, BEFORE YOU BEGIN ADDRESSING THE BODY. 
          UM, I CATCH EVERYTHING. 
          HEARING THAT. 
          WE'LL BEGIN WITH. 
          CASE NUMBER ONE. 
          OH, ROLL CALL. 
          THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          THANK YOU, LILIANA. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 
          DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER SIMS. I'M HERE. 
          DISTRICT TWO, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. 
          PRESENT, PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT THREE. 
          VICE CHAIR. 
          HERBERT PRESENT, DISTRICT FOUR. 
          DISTRICT FIVE. 
          COMMISSIONER SERRATO. 
          PRESENT, DISTRICT SIX. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. 
          PRESENT, DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          COMMISSIONER WILLER REAGAN. 
          DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DISTRICT NINE. 
          COMMISSIONER KONZ. 
          PRESENT DISTRICT 10. 
          COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. 
          PRESENT? DISTRICT 11. 
          COMMISSIONER COX? PRESENT DISTRICT 12. 
          COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. 
          PRESENT DISTRICT 13. 
          COMMISSIONER HALL HERE. 
          DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBEN. 
          YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE ARE GOING TO GET A MOTION TO HAVE COMMISSIONER HAMPTON SERVE AS VICE CHAIR. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION? SO MOVE IN A SECOND. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, HOUSE RIGHT. 
          AND SIMS. THANK YOU. 
          NOW LET'S GET THE PARTY STARTED. 
          UM, WE WANT TO BEGIN WITH OUR MISCELLANEOUS ITEM NUMBER ONE, MR. CHAIR MINUTES. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          I HAVEN'T ANY OPPOSED A MOTION? NOT THAT ONE. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          GOING VICE CHAIR. 
          SORRY. 
          HEARING THAT. 
          UM, 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WE ARE GONNA GET A MOTION, UM, FOR MR. HALL ON THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          UH, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE, UH, 5 21 26 MEETING AS POSTED ON 5 26 25. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, PLANNER SEIA, 
          [01:30:01]
YOU WANT TO START ON 
          [1. 26-2012 An application for a minor amendment to the development plan on property zoned Subdistrict O (WMU-8) Walkable Urban Mixed Use 8 within Planned Development District No. 468, bounded by N. Zang Boulevard, West 6th Street, N. Beckley Avenue, and West 6th Street.]
THE MISCELLANEOUS ZONING ITEM NUMBER ONE? YEP. 
          UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE, AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT, OWMU EIGHT, WALKABLE URBAN MIX. 
          USE EIGHT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 4 6 8. 
          FOUNDED BY NORTH SAN BOULEVARD, WEST WEST SIXTH STREET, NORTH BECKLEY AVENUE, AND WEST SIXTH STREET. 
          UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK. 
          PERFECT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION WE DO MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER TWO SIX DASH 2012 A I MOVE TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN WE GET A SECOND? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UM, THE MOTION, UM, ACCEPTED AND IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY COMMENTS? I'M SORRY. 
          NO COMMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OUR 
          [Zoning Cases - Consent]
ZONING DOCKET, UM, AND OUR ZONING CASES ON CONSENT. 
          UM, WE HAVE CASES 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 14, AND 16 ALL ON CONSENT, READY TO BE PACKAGED. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE CASES? YES, THAT'S, UH, CASE NUMBER 2 3 5 6 8 14 AND 16. 
          IF ANYONE'S HERE TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS, YOU CAN NOW. 
          IF NOT, UM, COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          UH, HAPPY TO DO THAT IN, UH, THE MATTERS OF THE ZONING CONSENT DOCKET ITEMS 2, 3, 5, 6, 8 14 AND 16. 
          I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS BRIEFED, UH, AT THE HORSESHOE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR THE SECOND. 
          UM, ANY COMMENTS ON ANY OF THAT? HEARING NONE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO THE OH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OH, YOU HAVE TO READ THEM. 
          OH, YES. 
          THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE READ INTO THE RECORD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          ITEM NUMBER 2 2 6 2 0 1 3 A CASE NUMBER Z 2 6 53 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIF. 
          A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A TEMPORARY CONCRETE OR ASPHALT BATCHING PLANT LIMITED TO A TEMPORARY CONCRETE BATCHING PLANT. 
          IT'S ON PROPERTY ZONE MU TWO MIXED USE DIS DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF EAST WHEATLAND ROAD, WEST OF SOUTH LANCASTER ROAD. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE OF JANUARY 1ST, 2028, OR WHEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT FOR WHICH THE TEMPORARY CONCRETE BATCHING PLANT IS NEEDED IS COMPLETED, WHICHEVER IS EARLIER SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          ITEM NUMBER 3 2 6 2 0 14. 
          A CASE NUMBER Z 2 6 74 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY COMMUNITY CENTER PRIVATE ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACT ONE WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 3 88 WITH H 60, THE 10TH STREET HISTORIC OVERLAY. 
          IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH LINE OF EAST 10TH STREET, WEST OF EAST CLARENDON DRIVE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS ITEM NUMBER 5 2 6 2 0 1 6 A CASE NUMBER Z 2 6 35. 
          THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR NOA NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT AND TERMINATION OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 45 FOR A BRANCH LIBRARY ON PROPERTY ZONED R ONE ACRE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. 
          THIS IS LOCATED ON THE SEVENTH LINE OF ROYAL LANE BETWEEN NETHERLAND DRIVE AND ROYAL WAY. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL ITEM NUMBER 6 2 6 2 0 1 7 A. 
          AN APPLICA, I'M SORRY, CASE NUMBER Z 2 6 60. 
          THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN 
          [01:35:01]
EXPANSION OF SUBDISTRICT ONE H WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN 14. 
          IT'S ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBDISTRICT ONE A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER SEVEN 14, THE WEST COMMERCE STREET, FORT WORTH AVENUE SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT. 
          THIS IS ON THE NORTH LINE OF WEST MAIN STREET, WEST OF NORTH BECKLEY AVENUE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL ITEM NUMBER 8 2 6 2 0 1 9 A IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONED R 16, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. 
          THIS IS ON THE NORTH LINE OF FOREST LANE, WEST OF HILLCREST ROAD. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          ITEM 14 2 6 2 0 5. 
          A CASE Z 2 6 87 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE. 
          PERMIT NUMBER 2,500 FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE. 
          3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON PROPERTY ZONED RR REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY. 
          AND THIS IS LOCATED ON THE EAST LINE OF NORTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF SCHNAT STREET. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS ITEM 16 2 6 2 0 2 7. 
          A CASE NUMBER Z 2 6 81 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH USES WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 3 0 7. 
          AND THIS IS ON THE WEST LINE OF FORD ROAD, SOUTH OF CHRISTIAN PARKWAY. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF A NEW SUBDISTRICT SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN AND CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO NOW THAT WE'VE HEARD ALL THE CASES, UM, AND, UH, THEIR TITLES, CAN WE GET A MOTION, UM, TO ACCEPT AGAIN? WE'LL DO IT AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD PRACTICE. 
          UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          IN THE, UH, MATTERS, THE CON CONSENT DOCKET ITEMS 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 14, AND 16. 
          I MOVE THAT WE, UH, FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS BRIEFED HERE AT THE HORSESHOE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, BEGINNING THE SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR THE SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? NAY. 
          THANK NO NNU. 
          THANK YOU CARRIE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          NOW MOVING ON. 
          I THINK OUR FIRST ITEM WILL BE ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          ITEM 
          [4. 26-2015A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a community service center on property zoned R-16(A) Single Family District, on the north line of LBJ Frwy, east of Copenhill Road.]
NUMBER 4 2 6 2 0 1 5 A IS AN, UM, CASE NUMBER Z 2 6 80 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTER ON PROPERTY ZONED R 16, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF LBJ FREEWAY EAST OF COPEN HILL ROAD. 
          UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS. 
          THANK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE IN SUPPORT OR ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? I SEE A HAND UP. 
          YOU WANT TO COME ON DOWN? WE ARE ON CASE NUMBER FOUR. 
          OKAY. 
          QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, HEARING NO, UM, QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? WE HAVE A MOTION, WE, WE DO IN THE CASE OF, UH, Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 8 0. 
          I MOVE TO HOLD THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL THE JUNE 25TH, 2026 CITY PLAN COMMISSION MEETING. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN FOR THE SECOND. 
          UM, ANY DISCUSSION? JUST A, A FEW COMMENTS IF I COULD. 
          UH, THIS APPLICATION IS CLEARLY FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMPUTE COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTER 
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ON PROPERTY ZONED R 16, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY ON THE NORTH SERVICE ROAD OF LBJ FREEWAY BETWEEN HILLCREST ROAD AND PRESTON. 
          THE CASE HAS GENERATED A GREAT DEAL OF PROPERTY OWNER INTEREST AND THEREFORE MORE TIME IS NEEDED TO MEET WITH PROPERTY OWNERS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS AND PROVIDE THEM WITH ACCURATE INFORMATION REGARDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND PROPOSED CONDITIONS FOR THE SUP. 
          WE DO HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED ON THE 16TH OF JUNE, UH, TO DO EXACTLY THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WITH A COMMENT FOR DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 7 6 7 7 7. 
          YEP. 
          [7. 26-2018A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a self-service storage on property zoned Subdistrict 4A within Planned Development No. 887, Valley View - Galleria Area Special Purpose District, on the northwest corner of Montfort Drive and Valley View Trail. (Part 1 of 2)]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS CASE Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 6 1. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR ANY SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A SELF-SERVICE STORAGE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUBJECT SUBDISTRICT FOUR A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT 8 87 VALLEY VIEW, GALL AREA, AREA SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF MON FOUR DRIVE AND VALLEY VIEW. 
          TRAIL STATE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED FOR A 30 YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL 10 YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO A SIDE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, LADY GAZA, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? THANK YOU. 
          AND IF YOU CAN BEGIN, BEGIN WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, WE'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          KEKE MISSION RIDGE CONSULTANTS 1900 FURMAN DRIVE, SUITE 400, RICHARDSON, TEXAS 7 5 0 8 1. 
          I'LL KEEP MY PRESENTATION VERY BRIEF, BUT, UM, FROM THE BRIEFING TODAY, I DO WANNA LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IS ACCEPTING OF THE NO AUTOMATIC RENEWALS. 
          SO OUR PROPOSAL IS A 30 YEAR TERM WITH STANDARD 10 YEAR RENEWALS PER THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE IF APPROVED. 
          UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO WHICH STAFF ALREADY BRIEFED ON WAS THE REDUCTION OF HEIGHT. 
          MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN THE CURRENT DISTRICT IS 300 FEET UNDERNEATH THE SUP, WE'RE REDUCING OUR ALLOWABLE HEIGHT TO 30 FEET. 
          WE'RE ALSO PULLING OVER PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULDN'T ORIGINALLY BE REQUIRED. 
          UM, AS WELL AS MAINTAINING THE ARTICLE 13 LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS THE TRANSPARENCY AND BLANK WALL REQUIREMENTS THAT LIVE IN THE PD TODAY. 
          UM, EVERYTHING ELSE WITH THE SITE THAT IS EXISTING IS GOING TO REMAIN. 
          OUR CURB CUTS ARE WIDE, SIDEWALKS ARE EXISTING, LANDSCAPING, ALL OF THAT IS TO REMAIN OUR PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS TO THE REAR OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE, WHICH FULLY FRONTS ON MONTFORT. 
          UM, AND SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, STANDBY. 
          YOU MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR AND OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE? HEARING NONE. 
          CAN WE GET A MOTION? YES, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE CASE NUMBER A, I'M SORRY, Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 6 1. 
          MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THAT NUMBER RIGHT? YES. 
          UM, AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS, EXCEPT THAT THE SUP IS APPROVED FOR A 30 YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR NON-AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL 10 YEAR PERIODS PURSUANT TO SECTION 51 A DASH 4.219 OF CHAPTER 51 A OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE AS AMENDED. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT MOTION AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN FOR THE SECOND. 
          UM, ANY, ANY DISCUSSION? OH, ONE SECOND. 
          WE HAVE A WORD FROM LEGAL FROM . 
          YEP. 
          MR. CHAIR, THIS IS LAURA MORRISON, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. 
          THE MOTION, THE TIME PERIOD HAS TO BE EITHER A, A FINITE TIME PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS OR JUST A FINITE TIME PERIOD. 
          WE CAN'T DICTATE ANY FUTURE, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE RENEWALS FOR STAFF. 
          MS. MORTON, I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          COULD YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT LOUDER? AM I, UH, THE MOTION CAN'T DICTATE TIME PERIODS FOR FUTURE, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE RENEWALS FOR STEP, THAT WOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, BUT THE BODY CAN'T, UM, 
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TIE THE HANDS OF FUTURE PLAN COMMISSIONS AS FAR AS THE, THE THE 10 YEARS YOU REFERENCED IN YOUR MOTION. 
          IT HAS TO BE EITHER EXPIRING IN A FINITE PERIOD, WHEREAS THEY COME BACK IN AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          OR IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          UM, IN THAT CASE, I CAN AMEND MY MOTION. 
          BEAR WITH ME JUST ONE SECOND. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          TALK TO AGREED TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE. 
          I'LL GO BACK TO, YEP. 
          MR. CHAIR, YOU WANT ME TO COME BACK TO THIS? OR IF YOU NEED TO, UH, YEAH, LET'S, LET'S COME BACK TO IT IF WE COULD. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          WE CAN MOVE. 
          WE'LL, UH, WE'LL TABLE THIS AND THEN COME BACK. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          FAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THROUGH THE DOCKET. 
          THANK YOU, LILLIAN. 
          THANK. 
          OKAY, NOW CASE NUMBER NINE, MS. BLUE, CHIEF PLANNER BLUE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          CASE NUMBER 
          [9. 26-2020A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for an open-enrollment charter school on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the west line of Cheyenne Road, south of Rockingham Street.]
NINE IS Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 60. 
          IT IS A APPLICATION FOR A NEW PACIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A OPEN ENROLLMENT CHARTER SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONE R SEVEN 50, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE WEST LINE OF CHEYENNE ROAD, SOUTH OF ROCKINGHAM STREET. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU MR. BALDWIN. 
          I SEE YOU'RE HERE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          ROB BALDWIN, 3 9 0 4 EL STREET, SUITE B I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE NUEVA VITA NEW LIFE CHURCH IN GOLDEN RULE SCHOOL. 
          UH, IN THIS REQUEST, UM, I WAS AT THE BRIEFING AND I WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW I SPOKE WITH, UH, THE COMMISSIONER FOR THE DISTRICT AND WE'RE OKAY AMENDING THE SUP CONDITIONS TO LIMIT THE GRADES FROM FI FIFTH GRADE THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE. 
          AND, UH, UH, REDUCED NOT DOING A, A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD FOR THIS. 
          UM, THIS IS A SISTER SCHOOL TO THE OTHER, UH, GOLDEN RULE SCHOOL ON ILLINOIS THAT CAME THROUGH A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          UH, PREVIOUSLY THAT SCHOOL WAS NOT OPERATING PROPERLY, BUT AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS AND EXTENSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, IT IS SHAPED UP AND IS RUNNING PROPERLY NOW. 
          AND YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT BACK AGAIN NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER THAT. 
          BUT IT IS, IT IS RUNNING PROPERLY AND THERE'S BEEN NO COMPLAINTS TO THE CITY ON IT. 
          I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          STANDBY. 
          THERE MAY BE SOME, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE? HEARING NONE. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER SERRATO, YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF CASE C 25 0 0 0 6 0, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE SUP WITH THE ADDED CONDITION THAT IT WILL REMAIN A FIVE THROUGH EIGHT SCHOOL FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS WITHOUT AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, SUBJECT TO THE SITE PLAN, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SERATO AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR YOUR SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION HEARING? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM NUMBER 10? YES. 
          OH, ARE YOU READY? YOU READY? YEAH. 
          LET'S GET HER DONE. 
          [7. 26-2018A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a self-service storage on property zoned Subdistrict 4A within Planned Development No. 887, Valley View - Galleria Area Special Purpose District, on the northwest corner of Montfort Drive and Valley View Trail. (Part 2 of 2)]
AS FOR THE CONFUSION, UM, I'VE GOT SOME GOOD COUNSEL FROM MS. MORRISON AND I, UM, WORKED AROUND IT A LITTLE BIT, SO MY APOLOGIES. 
          UM, SO MY MOTION IS, UH, REGARDING CASE Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 6 1. 
          I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CASE AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS, EXCEPT THAT THE SUP IS APPROVED FOR A 30 YEAR PERIOD WITH NO ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND WE GOT A SECOND. 
          SO HERE, UM, ANY DISCUSSION? I THINK WE HAVE THAT AS WELL. 
          HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? 
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THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW ITEM NUMBER 10, UH, DR. 
          MONA, 
          [10. 26- 2021A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service on property zoned CR Community Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the southwest line of Peavy Road, northwest of Garland Road.]
UH, KZ 26 0 0 0 7 7. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR, UM, CONTROL OVERLAY UNDER SOUTHWEST LINE OF P ROAD, NORTHWEST OF GARLAND ROAD. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITION. 
          THANK YOU MR. BALDWIN. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ROB BALDWIN, 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS. 
          UM, THIS IS THE GOOD FRIENDS PACKAGE STORE RESTAURANT. 
          THERE'S ALSO A CULT OF OUR COFFEE IN THERE. 
          UH, IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN THERE FOR BREAKFAST, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. 
          IT'S A VERY GOOD PLACE THERE. 
          IT'S A SISTER'S SHOP TO THE GOOD FRIEND BURGER PLACE ACROSS THE STREET. 
          UM, I'VE SPOKEN WITH COMMISSIONER KOONZ AND AGREED THAT IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO DO A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD FOR THIS SUP AND WE'RE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH EVER HE DECIDES IS APPROPRIATE. 
          AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE. 
          CAN WE GET A MOTION? THANK YOU CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z 26 0 0 0 7 7. 
          I MOVE TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS, BUT FOR A FIVE YEAR TIME PERIOD. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, CAN I GET A SECOND? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN FOR THE SECOND. 
          UM, ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? MR. BALDWIN? WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO ELIMINATING THE D ONE OVERLAY AT THIS SITE? PARDON ME? NO. 
          WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT ELIMINATING THE D ONE OVERLAY AT THIS SITE? NO. 
          UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS 10 YEARS AGO AND THE NEIGHBORS WEREN'T KEEN ON REMOVING THE, THE D ONE, SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TRYING IT THIS TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I PERFECT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? AYE. 
          THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          CASE CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CASE 
          [11. 26-2022A An application for an amendment to Planned Development District No. 17, on the southeast corner of Alpha Road and Preston Road.]
Z 26 0 0 0 0 7 9. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 17 ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ALFA ROAD AND PRESTON ROAD. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE IN FAVOR? ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NO ONE HERE? UH, CAN WE GET A MOTION, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF CASE Z DASH TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 7 9. 
          I MOVE TO HOLD THIS CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL THE JULY 23RD, 2026 MEETING TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME FOR REVIEW AND COORDINATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER, VICE-CHAIR HAMPTON, JULY. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED, THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THE MOTION WILL BE HELD. 
          MOVING RIGHT ALONG. 
          ITEM NUMBER 12, MR. LEE. 
          UH, ITEM 
          [12. 26-2023A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store greater than 3,500 square feet on property zoned Subarea 2 within Planned Development No. 366, Buckner Boulevard Special Purpose District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the west line of S. Buckner Boulevard, north of Lake June Road.]
12, AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE GREATER THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA TWO WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 360 6 BUCKNER BOULEVARD SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT. 
          WE HAVE A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH BUCKNER BOULEVARD, NORTH OF LAKE JUNE ROAD. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU MR. LEE. 
          ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION? WE HAVE ONE PERSON ONLINE. 
          UM, ARE YOU AVAILABLE TO SPEAK? THIS IS, YES SIR. 
          MS. CATHERINE CHALEY? YES SIR. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? GO RIGHT AHEAD WITH YOUR, UH, 
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LEAD WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU CAN START WITH YOUR COMMENTS. 
          YES SIR. 
          MY NAME IS CATHERINE CHAMBLEE. 
          UH, 5 1 1 WEST SEVENTH, UH, AVENUE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, 7 8 7 0 1. 
          MY FIRM REPRESENTS NEAL ENTERPRISES, LLC AS THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IN THIS APPLICATION FOR, UH, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO ALLOW THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE FOR OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION ONLY AT THE BUSINESS OF EL RANCHO, UH, CAR RA CRITERIA NUMBER EIGHT, LOCATED ON BUCKNER BOULEVARD AGAIN THERE IN DALLAS. 
          THIS LOCATION HAS OPERATED AS A GROCERY STORE AT THIS LOCATION IN DALLAS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THROUGH ITS PARENT COMPANY. 
          HERITAGE GROCERS GROUP, LLC. 
          THEY OPERATE A NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THROUGH DALLAS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          THE COMPANY'S A SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE CORPORATE CITIZEN OF DALLAS AND ALL THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT CALLS HOME. 
          IN SEEKING THIS SUP FOR BEER AND WINE OFF PREMISE SALES, THE COMPANY IS SIMPLY SEEKING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL PRODUCT TO THE WIDE VARIETY IT ALREADY OFFERS TO ITS CUSTOMERS. 
          THEREFORE, THE COMPANY TAKES COMPLIANCE SERIOUSLY AND, AND GREAT CARE WILL BE EXTENDED TO ENSURE PROPER UNLAWFUL SALE HERE IN WINE FOR OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION. 
          SHOULD THE SP BE GRANTED. 
          I KNOW WE SAW, UM, INITIALLY A THREE YEAR PERIOD FOR THE SUP, UH, AND THE STAFF MEMBER KINDLY CAME BACK AND ASKED ABOUT A PERIOD WITH NO EXPIRATION. 
          WE ARE GOOD WITH WHATEVER YOU ALL PREFER FOR THIS LOCATION. 
          UM, ALSO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M STILL HERE, OBVIOUSLY. 
          AND DID THERE, UM, JUAN TORRES IS ACTUALLY PRESENT THERE IN PERSON SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? UH, AS AN OPERATIONAL, FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY. 
          THANK YOU MS. CHAMBERY FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON OR AGAINST THIS PROJECT OF THIS CASE? HEARING NONE. 
          CAN WE GET A MOTION? YES, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF KZ 2 6 0 0 0 0 3 7. 
          I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE SUP FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS WITHOUT ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTO RENEWALS SUBJECT TO THE SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER SERRATO. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, HOUSE WRIGHT FOR THE SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THANK YOU MR. LEE. 
          YOU UP AGAIN? 
          [13. 26-2024A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2424 for a tower/antenna for cellular communication on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District and CR Community Retail District, between Pleasant Drive and Baywood Drive, north of Lake June Road.]
ITEM 13, AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT SPECIFIC. 
          USE PERMIT NUMBER 20. 
          UH, 2 4 2 4 FOR A TOWER SLASH ANTENNA FOR A CELLULAR COMMUNICATION ON PROPERTY ZONE R DASH 7.5. 
          A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT BETWEEN PLEASANT DRIVE AND BAYWOOD DRIVE NORTH OF LATE JUNE ROAD. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          APPROVAL FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTO RENEWAL FOR ADDITIONAL 10 YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU MR. LEE. 
          UM, I SEE WE HAVE A SPEAKER ONLINE BEFORE WE GET ON, UH, IT'S A REPRESENTATIVE IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK MR. JUSTIN ROBINSON? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UM, MR. ROBINSON, CAN YOU MAKE SURE YOUR CAMERA'S SHOWING WE HAVE TO SEE YOUR FACE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THAT BETTER? IT'S STILL NOT SHOWING. 
          YOU MAY WANT TO TOGGLE THAT CAMERA ON AND OFF AND IF THERE'S A MANUAL SWITCH ON YOUR SCREEN, YOU MAY WANNA REMOVE IT IF YOU HAVE A LAPTOP. 
          WHILE YOU WORK ON THAT, I'LL CHECK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SPEAKERS HERE. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON OR AGAINST THIS CASE? OKAY, NO ONE'S HERE IN PERSON. 
          I BELIEVE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE ASSIGNED TO SPEAK ONLINE. 
          MR. JUSTIN. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          STILL, UH, WE'LL TRY TO GET TO WORK HERE. 
          HAPPENS TO THE BEST OF US. 
          UM, DO YOU SEE THE CAMERA TOGGLE BUTTON IS, ARE YOU PRESSING IT AND HAVING BAD LUCK OR YOU HAVING TROUBLE FINDING IT? YEAH, THE PROBLEM IS I CAN SEE MYSELF HERE, BUT UH, APPARENTLY YOU CAN'T SEE ME. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK, UM, WE'LL, UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL MAKE A MOTION IF THERE'S QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          UM, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL COME TO YOU UNTIL WE FIGURE THIS 
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TECHNICAL ISSUE OUT. 
          HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          YES. 
          LET'S, UH, ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK? NO. 
          UH, LET'S GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          IN THE MATTER OF CASE D 2 6 0 0 0 0 7 8, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE SUP FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS WITH NO ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTO RENEWAL SUBJECT TO UH, CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR THE SECOND, UM, DISCUSSION. 
          OH, AND SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN, CORRECT? UH, YES. 
          YES, YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'LL ASK MR. ROBINSON IS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ON THAT MOTION OR IS IT OKAY FOR US TO VOTE NOW? NO, WE'LL ACTUALLY OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HEARING, UM, NO QUESTIONS, NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT CASE NUMBER 15 I, SO MR. BATE, 
          [15. 26-2026A An application for a new Subdistrict for LC Light Commercial uses on property zoned LC Light Commercial Subdistrict, Planned Development District No. 193, on the south corner of Lemmon Avenue and Hedgerow Drive.]
ITEM 15 IS CASE Z 25 2 30 AND APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR LC LIKE COMMERCIAL USES OF PROPERTY ZONED LC LIKE COMMERCIAL SUBDISTRICT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 9 3 ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF LEMON AVENUE AND HEDGE DRIVE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN LANDSCAPE PLANNING CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU MR. BATE. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS? ON OR AGAINST THIS CASE FOR OR AGAINST THIS CASE? HEARING NONE. 
          CAN WE GET A MOTION? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 2 3. 
          I MOVE TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL JULY 23RD AND DIRECT STAFF TO RE-NOTICE FOR AN SUP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR THE SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO HOLD THIS CASE UNTIL 7 23 FOR A RE-NOTICE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THANK YOU MR. BATE. 
          OKAY, SO IS THAT THE END OF OUR ZONING DOCKET? IS IT THE CONSENT ITEMS? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR, UM, INDIVIDUAL ITEMS STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER 17. 
          THIS IS THE ITEMS UNDER ADVISEMENT 16. 
          16. 
          YES. 
          [17. 26-2028A An application for WMU-5 Walkable Urban Mixed-Use District on property zoned IR Industrial Research District, on the south corner of Empire Central Drive and Forest Park Road.]
ITEM 17 IS Z 2 6 0 0 0 5 0. 
          IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A WM U FIVE WALKABLE URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE IR INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF EMPIRE CENTRAL DRIVE IN FOREST PARK ROAD. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU MR. BATE. 
          MR. BALDWIN. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIR. 
          LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ROB BALDWIN 3 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B IN DALLAS AND THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ON THE, THE CORNER OF EMPIRE CENTRAL IN FOREST PARK, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF MOCKINGBIRD, JUST WEST OF UH, LOVEFIELD. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMPANION CASE TO A CASE THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, RIGHT NEXT DOOR. 
          UH, MY CLIENT OWNS THAT REZONED TO A WALKABLE MIXED USE FIVE. 
          THIS PROPERTY CAME AVAILABLE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ZONED IR AND WE'RE ASKING TO REZONE IT BACK TO, UH, WAWA MIXED USE FIVE DISTRICT. 
          I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S, BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH AS HAVE THE WEST LOVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          UM, TO FURTHER THIS, WE'VE AGREED TO ENTER INTO SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT I WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A STANDALONE LOT, IT'S NOT A CONNECTED TO THE OTHER LOT. 
          AS AS FOR ZONING PURPOSES, MY CLIENT HAS COMMITTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE, UH, RESTRICTIONS I'M ABOUT TO READ IN WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO O OVERALL DESIGN OF THE THE PROPERTY. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE RESTRICTIONS DON'T OFFICIALLY FIT THAT, BUT WE'RE ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT THIS WILL BE THE DESIGN TO DO THAT. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO READ THE FOLLOWING INTO THE RECORD. 
          UH, THE OWNER DOES HEREBY IMPRESS ON ALL THE PROPERTY WITH THE FOLLOWING DEED RESTRICTIONS. 
          A MINIMUM OF 60% OF THE STREET LEVEL DWELLING UNITS ADJACENT TO A STREET MUST HAVE INDIVIDUAL ENTRIES THAT ACCESS THE STREET WITH AN IMPROVED PATH CONNECTING TO A SIDEWALK. 
          THE SECOND, A PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCE THAT PROVIDES ACCESS FROM FOREST PARK ROAD TO A PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY INTERNAL TO THE PROPERTY MUST BE 
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PROVIDED. 
          AND WITH THAT, I HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS REQUEST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK, UM, ON, UM, IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE? HEARING NONE. 
          LET'S GET A MOTION. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 5 0. 
          I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE DUE RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. 
          UM, DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          I JUST WANNA THANK, UM, UH, MR. BALDWIN AND THE ENTIRE APPLICANT TEAM. 
          WE HAD A FOLLOW UP MEETING, UH, WE'D MET IN MARCH REGARDING THIS REQUEST. 
          THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT AFTER THAT, WHICH IS WHY WE HELD IT. 
          UH, WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH, UM, COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY. 
          THIS IS AN AREA VERY MUCH IN TRANSITION. 
          THERE IS BROAD SUPPORT FOR, UM, INCREASING OUR RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, BUT THEY'RE HOPING THAT THE GROWING COMMUNITY WILL BE PART OF THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER AND WE APPRECIATE, UM, EXISTING DESIGN RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE PART OF THE WNU DISTRICT IN THESE ADDITIONAL, UH, MEASURES THAT JUST FURTHER STRENGTHEN THAT CONNECTION. 
          SO WE APPRECIATE THE TEAM WORKING WITH US AND HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? LET'S SAY I ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MOVING ON TO CASE NUMBER 18, UH, Z UH, 
          [18. 26-2029 A An application for LI Light Industrial District on property zoned A(A) Agricultural District, on the south line of Telephone Road, east of N. Dallas Avenue.]
A ITEM 18 IS Z 2 6 0 0 0 0 0 3. 
          IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE, AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE TELEPHONE ROAD, EAST OF NORTH DALLAS AVENUE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE? OKAY, LET'S GET A MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, VICE CHAIR HAMPTON, CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION FOR US? CERTAINLY IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 3. 
          I MOVE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 17TH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? SECOND? OH YES. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? SORRY. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, JUST A NOTE FROM, UM, THE COMMISSIONER. 
          UH, FRANKLIN, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A 90 DAY ADDITIONAL DAYS TO WORK WITH THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HEARING. 
          NO MORE DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          MOVING ON TO CASE 19. 
          [19. 26-2030A An application for a new planned development district for LI Light Industrial uses on property zoned A(A) Agricultural District, on the south line of Cleveland Road, west of Lancaster-Hutchins Road.]
ITEM 19 IS Z 2 502 2 9. 
          IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR ALL HIGHLIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES ON PROPERTY ZONE AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF CLEVELAND ROAD, WEST OF LANCASTER HUTCHINS ROAD STAFF RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I SEE WE HAVE A SPEAKER, SANTOS MARTINEZ, 24 89 CAMINO PLOT, THE LOOP NORTHEAST RIO RANCHO, NEW MEXICO 8 7 1 4 4. 
          UH, WE'VE ARE STILL IN ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONER ON THE PD CONDITIONS FOR THIS PROPERTY. 
          SO WE ASKED, UH, IF THIS CASE CAN BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL YOUR JULY 23RD HEARING. 
          UH, THIS PROPERTY IS AT THE END OF CLEVELAND ROAD AROUND, UH, PD 7 61 TO THE NORTHWEST, WEST AND SOUTH. 
          IT'S ZONED AGRICULTURAL TODAY. 
          AND SO WE'D LIKE TO INCORPORATE THOSE LANDSCAPE FEATURES AND REQUIREMENTS OF PD 7 61 ONTO THIS PROPERTY. 
          UH, BUT THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED AND SO WE'D LIKE THAT TIME TO WORK THIS OUT AND MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYTHING DRAFTED CORRECTLY. 
          STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS? OH, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OR AGAINST ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE, LET'S GET A MOTION. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 2 2 9. 
          I MOVE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL JULY 23RD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN I GET A SECOND? THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR THE SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THE NEXT CASE IS CASE NUMBER 20 AND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON HAS A CONFLICT. 
          MR. CHAIR. 
          MR. CHAIR? YES. 
          CAN WE, CAN WE MOVE THIS FURTHER 
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DOWN BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THE, UH, APPLICANTS HERE AND THEY INDICATED THEY WOULD BE. 
          YEAH. 
          OH, UP TOP THERE. 
          YOU OKAY? THERE YOU ARE. 
          DIDN'T SEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          LET'S GO. 
          LET'S GO. 
          ALRIGHT, MR. B. 
          [20. 26-2031A An application for RTN Residential Transition District on property zoned R-16(A) Single Family District, on the northwest corner of McShann Road and Preston Road.]
ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, ITEM 20 IS CASES Z 25 DASH 0 0 0 1 21. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR RTN RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE R 16, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SHAN ROAD AND PRESTON ROAD. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, APPLICANT TOO. 
          HI. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY. 
          MY NAME IS MATTHEW SHEARER, 5 3 3 0 ALPHA ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 4 0. 
          UM, THIS ZONING CASE BEGAN AS A NEIGHBORHOOD CONVERSATION AND QUICKLY DREW THE ATTENTION OF THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS. 
          THROUGHOUT EVERY MEETING WITH RESIDENTS, THE COUNCILWOMAN, THE COMMISSIONER, AND EVEN THE PRESS ONE THEME, UH, HAS REPEATEDLY SURFACED THE FEAR THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL ERASE THE RICH HISTORY OF THIS NORTH DA NORTH DALLAS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, EXCUSE ME, A COMMUNITY WITH DEEP ROOTS TRACING BACK TO THE END OF SLAVERY FOR BLACK FAMILIES. 
          WE RESPECT THIS HISTORY. 
          WE HONOR IT, AND OUR VERY FIRST MEETING INTENDED BY MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE, MANY OF WHOM DO NOT LIVE ON MIC SHAN ROAD, UM, HAVE A LINE OF INTEREST, UM, YET HAVE A LINE OF INTEREST IN ITS FUTURE. 
          NEIGHBORS ASKED US TO LIMIT DEVELOPMENT TO NO MORE THAN FOUR HOUSING UNITS, TWO STORIES, AND 2,500 SQUARE FEET. 
          WE AGREED ON THIS ON THE SPOT AND HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO MEET WITH EVERY REASONABLE REQUEST ABOVE AND OVER THE LINK TO THE ZONING REQUEST. 
          IMPORTANTLY, EVEN WITH THE NEW HISTORIC OVERLAY, WE'LL BE FULLY BEHOLDEN TO ALL ORDINANCES AND DESIGN GUIDELINES IT REQUIRES, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE REMAIN UNDER CURRENT ZONING OR MOVE TO THE PROPOSED RTN ZONING, THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION AND OUR SHARED COMMITMENT TO HONORING THE PAST MUST BE TREATED AS ENTIRELY SEPARATE ISSUES FROM THE ZONING REQUEST. 
          THEY SHOULD CARRY NO WEIGHT ON THE ZONING DECISION ITSELF. 
          WE COLLABORATED CLOSELY WITH CITY STAFF WHOSE GUIDANCE LED US TO THE RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING REQUESTS OR RTN. 
          OUR VISION FOR THIS PROJECT WITHIN RTM FRAMEWORK FITS PERFECTLY WITH FORWARD DALLAS 2.0. 
          AS A WORKFORCE HOUSING DEVELOPER, I SEE THIS AS A NATURAL FIT. 
          PLACING AGING CONDOS, REPLACING AGING CONDOS TO THE NORTH AND COMPLI COMPLIMENTING NEARBY TOWN HOMES WITH FRESH ATTRACTIVE HOMES AT PROMINENT PRESTON ROAD ENTRANCE. 
          AN ENTRANCE THAT HAS NEEDED NEW LIFE FOR QUITE SOME TIME IN THIS MARKET, ROLAND VALUES START AROUND $800,000 AND OUTDATED HOMES EXCEED 1.2 MILLION. 
          OUR PROPOSED NEW HOMES WOULD OFFER YOUNG FAMILIES WELL-BUILT NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE 650,000, $700,000 RANGE. 
          REALISTIC ATTAINABLE HOUSING THAT OPENS A NEIGHBORHOOD LONG CLOSE TO NEW GROWTH. 
          EVEN WITH THE PENDING HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION, WE CAN DELIVER THREE QUALITY HOMES UNDER THE RTN FRAMEWORK THAT FULLY RESPECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER. 
          THIS IS NOT ABOUT A RECENT IN THE PAST. 
          IT'S ABOUT GIVING THE COMMUNITY A CHANCE TO BREATHE, TO GROW, AND TO THRIVE. 
          FOR THE FIRST TIME IN DECADES, THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS A POSITIVE SET FOR DALLAS, CONSISTENT WITH DALLAS 2.2, UH, FORWARD DALLAS 2.0, AND PART OF THE REVITALIZATION OF THE PRESSING CORRIDOR LEADING TO THE FUTURE VALLEY VIEW ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. 
          WE HAVE LISTENED, WE HAVE COMPROMISED, AND WE'VE STAYED COMMITTED TO DOING THIS THE RIGHT WAY. 
          I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THE ZONING REQUEST SO WE CAN DELIVER HOMES THAT STRENGTHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE HONORING SEEING, WHILE HONORING ITS PAST AND BUILDING ITS FUTURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, NEXT SPEAKER? YES, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS Y ISRAEL KATZ. 
          I LIVE IN 6 3 0 6 PRESTON CREST LANE IN DALLAS, 7 5 2 3 0. 
          MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO DALLAS 26 YEARS AGO. 
          WE WERE BOTH INVOLVED IN EDUCATION. 
          MY WIFE WAS A TEACHER, AND I WAS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THE JEWISH DAY SCHOOL AT THE TIME, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT THIS PROPOSED TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT. 
          DALLAS, LIKE MANY CITIES, FACES A SERIOUS HOUSING AFFORD AFFORDABILITY CHALLENGE. 
          TEACHERS FIRST RESPONDERS, HEALTHCARE WORKERS, YOUNG FAMILIES, AND WORKING PROFESSIONALS ARE INCREASINGLY STRUGGLING TO FIND HOUSING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY SERVE. 
          THIS PROPOSED PROJECT OFFERS A PRACTICAL SOLUTION. 
          IT CREATES ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES WHILE MAINTAINING AN ATTRACTIVE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER. 
          THESE ARE NOT LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES. 
          THESE ARE WELL-DESIGNED HOMES THAT WILL ALLOW FAMILIES TO ACHIEVE HOME OWNERSHIP AND BUILDING LONG-TERM STABILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME NEIGHBORS HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CHANGE AND THAT, AND CHANGE IS DIFFICULT AND EVERY COMMUNITY DESERVES TO HAVE ITS VOICE HEARD. 
          HOWEVER, WE MUST ALSO CONSIDER THE BROADER NEEDS OF DALLAS. 
          IF WE WANT OUR CHILDREN, OUR GRANDCHILDREN, AND THE WORKFORCE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE CITY, WE NEED TO CREATE MORE HOUSING OPTIONS. 
          THIS, THIS PROJECT WILL INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF ATTAINABLE HOUSING, GENERATE ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, ENCOURAGE INVESTMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES TO BECOME HOME HOMEOWNERS SUPPORT 
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THE GOALS OF THE CITY'S RESPONSIBLE GROWTH IN HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. 
          THE QUESTION BEFORE US IS NOT WHETHER SHOULD WE PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE CAN WELCOME NEW FAMILIES WHILE PRESERVING THE QUALITIES THAT MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SO STRONG. 
          I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT STRIKES THE BALANCE, IT RESPECTS THE COMMUNITY WHILE HELPING ADDRESS A REAL HOUSING NEED. 
          I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT OUR DEVELOPMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT? THANK YOU. 
          ANY UM, ANYONE IN OPPOSITION? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          WE HAVE ONE SUPPORTER ONLINE. 
          LET'S HEAR FROM THEM AND THEN WE'LL START HEARING FROM THOSE IN OPPOSITION. 
          IF YOU WANT TO COME FURTHER DOWN SO YOU'RE CLOSER TO THE MIC, WE CAN, UM, OKAY. 
          IS IT, UH, THE APPLICANT, MR. MANN ONLINE? UH, IT'S TYRONE POWELL. 
          OH, GO AHEAD. 
          I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION. 
          I'M TYRONE POWELL, BUT OKAY, MR. POWELL, WE'LL GET TO YOU. 
          UM, OKAY, I'LL WAIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CALEB MANN AND, UH, RABBI SHAYA. 
          JORGE, ANYBODY ON? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DON'T SEE THEM ONLINE, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR, UM, PEOPLE IN PERSON IN OPPOSITION. 
          GUYS, COME ON. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I'M GONNA, OKAY. 
          I CAN GO AHEAD. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS LISA FLETCHER AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE SHAN HOMEOWNERS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          I'M STANDING HERE TODAY REPRESENTING A UNITED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS BEING FORCED INTO AN IMPOSSIBLE STRUCTURAL POSITION WHILE COMMISSIONER HALL IS MOVING TO APPROVE THE RTN REZONING. 
          DOING SO REQUIRES THE BODY TO DIRECTLY VIOLATE FORWARD DALLAS NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION OBJECTIVES. 
          SPECIFICALLY THE TEXT AMENDMENTS AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PAUL RIDLEY AND TO OVERRIDE THE CITY'S OWN LANDMARK PRESERVATION EFFORTS. 
          FIRST, THE RIDLEY AMENDMENTS, EXCUSE ME, EXPLICITLY MANDATE THE TOWN, TOWN HOME DENSITY TRANSITIONS MUST PRIORITIZE MAIN ARTERIAL ROADS AND STAY OUT OF QUIET INTERIOR NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. 
          WHILE THIS LOT TOUCHES PRESTON ROAD, THE DEVELOPER SPECIFIC LAYOUT FORCES THE STRUCTURAL MASSING AND TRAFFIC IMPACTS DIRECTLY ONTO SHAN ROAD. 
          A THREE BLOCK SINGLE FAMILY INTERIOR STREET STAFF IS ASKING YOU TO IGNORE THE VERY ARTERIAL PRIORITY RULES THAT THIS CITY JUST FOUGHT TO PASS. 
          SECOND, THE RIDLEY TECH STATES, THE INCOMPATIBLE TOWN HOMES MUST BE KEPT OUTSIDE OF AN ESTABLISHED SINGLE FAMILY AREA. 
          OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S HISTORIC APPLICATION HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY ACCEPTED. 
          IT IS UNDER ACTIVE TRACKING BY THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND WAS EXPLICITLY ENCOURAGED BY OUR OWN DISTRICT 13 COUNCIL MEMBER GAY WILLIS. 
          THE DEVELOPER KNOWS THIS, THEY DELIBERATELY PURCHASED THIS LOT UNDER AN INSTITUTIONAL SHIELD, SPECIFICALLY TO OPT OUT OF HISTORIC LANDMARK RESTRICTIONS, BUT A CORPORATE LOOPHOLE DOES NOT ERASE HISTORY. 
          THIS STREET SITS DIRECTLY ON THE HISTORIC FOOTPRINT OF THE ALPHA FREEMAN SETTLEMENT. 
          LAUNCHED FORMALLY, I'M SORRY, FOUNDED BY FORMERLY ENSLAVED FAMILIES FOLLOWING THE CIVIL WAR. 
          THEN IN THE 1950S, DR. 
          MANEL SHAN, A DESCENDANT, TRANSFORMED THIS LAND INTO A HAVEN FOR BLACK PROFESSIONALS WHEN THEY WERE LEGALLY BARRED FROM LIVING ANYWHERE ELSE IN NORTH DALLAS. 
          THE DEVELOPER MAY HAVE OPTED OUT OF THE LANDMARK RULES, BUT THEY CANNOT OPT OUT OF FORWARD DALLAS PASSING AN RTN ZONE HERE INTRODUCES A GLARING STRUCTURAL INCOMP INCOMPATIBILITY THAT PERMANENTLY ERASES THE VERY FOOTPRINT. 
          THIS CITY IS ACTIVELY TRYING TO HONOR COMMISSIONERS. 
          PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW FLAWED DISTRICT RECOMMENDATION 
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TO OVERRIDE THE MASTER PLAN TEXT. 
          YOU ARE SWORN TO UPHOLD. 
          WE RESPECT COMMISSIONER HALL, BUT AN APPROVAL MOTION FORCES YOU TO VIOLATE THE FORWARD DALLAS GUIDELINES AND THE LANDMARK COMMISSION'S PRESERVATION MANDATE. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, FILL OUT THE YELLOW CARD WITH YOUR NAME AND INFORMATION SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE. 
          YOU PUT IT THERE ALREADY. 
          I DID. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ELIZABETH BRODEN, 57 40 SHAN ROAD. 
          I'M A THIRD GENERATION INHABITED OF SHAN ROAD. 
          A NEIGHBORHOOD BUILT WITH INTENTION BY PEOPLE WHO HAD TO FIGHT FOR THE VERY RIGHT TO BUILD ANYTHING AT ALL. 
          BUT DESPITE CIRCUMSTANCES, THEIR BARGAIN HAS BLOOMED INTO A BOND, A BOND WITH DALLAS. 
          I HEAR THE CITY WHEN THEY NOW SAY, FOR DALLAS IS MERELY ADVISORY, BUT THE WHOLE CITY IS WATCHING. 
          THIS CASE SAYS THE PRESIDENTS FOR THE VALUE OF FOR DALLAS. 
          FOR FOR DALLAS TO MEAN ANYTHING, IT MUST SERVE AS A RELIABLE GUIDELINE IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXAS LAW. 
          TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REQUIRES ZONING TO CONFIRM TO A CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THE PLACEMENT OF THESE HOMES ON A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET IN NOT ONTARIO IS IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO THE CITY'S PLAN. 
          PLEASE CONSIDER WHETHER THAT CONSTITUTES THE COMPATIBLE TRANSITION FOR STATUS ENVISIONS OR IF IT VIOLATES A BARGAIN THAT THE LAW PROTECTS. 
          TEXAS COURTS HAVE HELD THAT WHEN RESIDENTS PURCHASE THEIR HOMES, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO RELY UPON THE CLASS CLASSIFICATION, WHICH EXISTED AT THE TIME THE PURCHASE WAS MADE. 
          I ASKED YOU TO CONSIDER IF THE CHANGE CONDITIONS REQUIRED BY TEXAS LAW TO JUSTIFY A ZONING AMENDMENT THAT DOES NOT RELATE TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, OR GENERAL WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC EXISTS. 
          HERE. 
          THE APPLICANT'S FAIL TO ASSERT BENEFITS TO THE PUBLIC. 
          THEY CLAIM NEW INVENTORY IS NECESSARY. 
          HOWEVER, THERE ARE CURRENTLY AROUND 40 PROPERTIES AVAILABLE WITHIN 0.5 MILES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH CRITERIA RESEMBLING THE APPLICANT'S STATED PLANS. 
          SO WE LOOK AT SHAN ROAD, NO MATERIAL HAS CHANGED, HAS OCCURRED SINCE THE ENACTMENT OF FOR DALLAS. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES R 16 CLASSIFICATION REMAINS USEFUL, VIBRANT, STABLE, AND COMPLETELY INTACT. 
          THE ONLY CONDITION THAT HAS CHANGED IS THAT A DEVELOPER PURCHASE LOTS AND SEEKS TO REWRITE THE RULES TO MAXIMIZE PRIVATE RESALE VALUE AGAINST THE OBJECTION OF SETTLED RESIDENTS WHO IN PURCHASING THEIR HOMES, RELIED UPON THE R 16 DESIGNATION. 
          ON THE QUESTION OF THE APPROPRIATENESS DUE TO THE CORNER LOCATION, I DRAW THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION TO HUNT V. 
          CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AND I'M QUOTING DIRECTLY IF THE ZONE AREA MAY BE ENCROACHED UPON FROM THE EDGE, THE EFFECT THEREOF IS TO CAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO COLLAPSE LIKE THE FALL OF A ROLL OF DOMINOES WHEN THE FIRST ROW IS KNOCKED OVER AND CLOSING THE BARGAIN WAS MADE. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD BLOOMED. 
          THE BOND MUST HOLD FLOWERS BLOOM. 
          TODAY ACROSS THE LARGE SETBACKS YARDS ON SHAN ROAD, THESE FLOWERS BLOOM BECAUSE THE BOND WITH DALLAS IS NOT BROKEN. 
          IT HAS HELD FOR OVER 60 YEARS THROUGH CIRCUMSTANCES FAR HARDER. 
          DON'T LET THE DOMINOES FALL ON SHAN ROAD TODAY. 
          DENIED THIS CASE. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS LANA BLAKELY AT 56 39 SHAN ROAD. 
          I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THE REQUESTED REZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW A PROPERTY CURRENTLY ZONED FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO BE DEVELOPED INTO FOUR TOWN HOMES. 
          MY OPPOSITION IS NOT BASED ON A BELIEF THAT ALL GROWTH OR DEVELOPMENT IS INAPPROPRIATE, OR RATHER IT IS BASED ON WHETHER THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CHANGE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. 
          THE MOST IMPORTANT FACT IN THIS CASE IS THAT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION HAS ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THIS STREET MERITS HISTORIC DESIGNATION. 
          WHILE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT YET TAKEN FINAL ACTION, THE CITY'S PRESERVATION EXPERTS HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THIS AREA POSSESSES HISTORIC AND ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE DESERVING OF PROTECTION. 
          GIVEN THAT FINDING A PROVEN OR REZONING NOW WOULD BE PREMATURE. 
          ONCE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS REPLACED WITH FOUR TOWN HOMES, THE HISTORIC CHARACTER AND CONTEXT OF THE STREET CANNOT BE RESTORED. 
          THE CITY SHOULD COMPLETE 
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THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS BEFORE APPROVING A ZONE CHANGE THAT COULD PERMANENTLY AFTER THE VERY CHARACTER THAT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED HAS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. 
          THIS REQUEST ALSO RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE AREA IS CHARACTERIZED BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND FOUR ATTACHED TOWNHOMES WOULD REPRESENT A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN DENSITY. 
          AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED CHARACTER OF THE STREET ZONING EXISTS TO ENSURE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS COMPATIBLE WITH ITS SURROUNDINGS. 
          IN THIS CASE, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM THE EXISTING PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE STREET. 
          I WOULD ASK THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE PRESIDENT THIS REZONING WOULD SET. 
          IF FOUR TOWN HOMES ARE APPROPRIATE ON THIS LOT, IT BECOMES INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN WHY SIMILAR REZONINGS SHOULD NOT BE GRANTED ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. 
          OVER TIME, THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF SUCH DECISIONS COULD FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF A STREET THAT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION HAS ALREADY COM RECOMMENDED FOR PRESERVATION. 
          THE COMMISSION'S DECISION TODAY IS THEREFORE ABOUT MORE THAN A SINGLE PARCEL. 
          IT IS ABOUT THE FUTURE CHARACTER OF THE ENTIRE STREET. 
          FINALLY, I ASK THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE REZONING ADVANCES A BROADER PUBLIC PLANNING OBJECTIVE OR PRIMARILY BENEFITS. 
          A SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER ZONING DECISIONS SHOULD BE GUIDED BY SOUND PLANNING PRINCIPLES, NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY'S PRESERVATION GOALS. 
          FOR THESE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION DENY THE REZONING REQUEST OR AT A MINIMUM DEFER ACTION UNTIL THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS HAS BEEN COMPLETED. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER? YES. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE I EVEN GET STARTED, I'D LIKE TO TELL EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL THAT I DO LOVE Y'ALL. 
          WE LOVE YOU BACK. 
          CAN YOU SPELL YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS WILLIS. 
          MY NAME IS WILLIS BRODEN. 
          REVEREND WILLIS BRODEN SENIOR. 
          I LIVE AT 57 40 MACHIN ROAD. 
          GOT IT. 
          GOOD. 
          NOW WE, NOW, NOW, MAY I START? YOU CAN, YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOD IS GOOD. 
          NOW, UM, MY QUESTION, BASICALLY, I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. 
          MY QUESTION IS, WHY, WHY ARE WE GOING THROUGH THIS? EVERYONE HAS SEEN, AND EVERYONE HAS HEARD WHAT THIS STREET MEANS TO THE BLACK RACE. 
          AND, AND YOU WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT A MATTER OF BLACK AND WHITE, BUT IT IS A MATTER OF BLACK AND WHITE. 
          UM, WE HAVE A STREET THAT'S MAYBE WHAT, THREE FOOTBALL FIELDS. 
          WHY CAN'T Y'ALL FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO? LET US KEEP WHAT IS HISTORICAL FOR US, NOT ONLY FOR US, FOR THE, YOU KNOW HOW I, HOW PROUD YOU GET WHEN YOU CAN SAY THAT'S THE HOUSE. 
          YOU ARE THE MAN THAT BROUGHT YOU INTO THE WORLD, LIVED IN, BUILT. 
          THAT'S HIS HOUSE. 
          DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WAS TO MY CHILDREN WHEN THEY CAME? I SAID, YES, YOUR DOCTOR, THAT'S THE DOCTOR THAT BROUGHT YOU IN. 
          THAT'S THE DOCTOR. 
          DO YOU UNDERSTAND? AND, AND MY QUESTION IS, WHY IS THIS SO MU IMPORTANT THAT YOU GET WHAT? FOUR HOUSES. 
          FOUR HOUSES? WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU CAN'T GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S SURROUNDED BY AFFLUENT WHITE PEOPLE ON THE BEHIND US, IN FRONT OF US. 
          THESE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO DO THAT TO US NOW TRIED TO DO IT IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND COULD NOT ACHIEVE IT. 
          WHY? BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IT IN A WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT NOW THEY COME TO A BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY TRY THE SAME THING AND Y'ALL GONNA ALLOW THAT. 
          NOW WE WE'RE, WE'RE, AS YOU CAN SEE, AND AS, AS YOU, YOU HAVE SEEN THAT WE ARE FIGHTERS AND THIS WILL NOT STOP HERE. 
          EVEN IF YOU VOTE YES, MR. HALL, HE HAS BEEN IN FAVOR OF THIS EVER SINCE THEY PUT IT BEFORE HIM. 
          AND THE QUESTION IS WHY HE, EVEN WHEN, WHEN HE DIDN'T THINK SOMEBODY WAS HERE TO REPRESENT HIM, HE EVEN WANTED TO STOP THE PROCEDURE JUST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T THINK SOMEBODY WAS HERE TO SPEAK FOR THEM. 
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WHY? WHY ASK YOURSELF WHY? WHAT ARE THE MOTIVES OF THIS? THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          I DO APPRECIATE YOU AND I DO LOVE YOU MR. HALL. 
          I LOVE YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK, UM, IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE? NO ONE IN PERSON. 
          I BELIEVE WE HAVE MR. TYRONE ONLINE. 
          MR. TYRONE POWELL, YOU'RE UP? YES. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. 
          WE CAN HEAR AND SEE YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          BEFORE I GET STARTED, TYM RON POWELL, THE OWNER OF 58 31 AND 58 41 MAX CHAN. 
          MAX CHAN ROAD IS AN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND A VITAL PART OF THE ALPHA COMMUNITY, AN HISTORIC 150 YEAR FREEMANS TOWN THAT HAS PROVIDED ENHANCED PROTECTION BY DALLAS 2.0 AND HAS BEEN DESIGNATED BY THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AS AN HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND MYSELF ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING OF 1 2 7 0 3 PRESTON USING AN UNPRECEDENTED AND INAPPROPRIATE ZONING RE RECLASSIFICATION FROM R 16 A TO RTN FIRST MAX. 
          SHANNON STATES ISUM BY PRIVATE PLAT RESTRICTIONS RECORDED IN DALLAS COUNTY RECORDS THAT LIMIT EACH HALF ACRE LOT TO ONE HOUSE. 
          THESE RESTRICTIONS RUN WITH THE LAND. 
          SECOND, THE DEVELOPER PLANS TO SQUEEZE THREE OR FOUR MULTI-STORY TOWNHOUSES ONTO THE LOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING ONLY JEWS RESIDENTS TO OCCUPY, QUOTE, SIGNIFICANTLY CHEAPER HOUSING WITHOUT A CUL-DE-SAC. 
          THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DRASTICALLY VIOLATES THE UNITY, SAFETY, AND CHARM OF THE 34 1 STORY RESIDENCES ON MACHAN AS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE PLACE TYPE LAND USE MATRIX. 
          THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT VIOLATES THE INTENT OF THE AMENDMENTS OF DALLAS 2.0 THAT ACCORDING TO THE AUTHOR OF THE AMENDMENTS COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN PAUL RIDLEY STRE QUOTE, PRESERVE AND PROTECT SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS BY PUSHING MULTIFAMILY HOUSING TO MORE COMPATIBLE, UNDERUTILIZED AREAS SUCH AS FREEWAY SERVICE, ROADS, TRANSIT STATIONS, AND VACANT LOTS OUTSIDE OF SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          ACCORDING TO THE PROPONENTS OF DALLAS 2.0 AMENDMENTS, THE AMENDMENTS RECOGNIZED HOMEOWNERS QUOTE, LEGITIMATE CONCERNS REGARDING THE PLACEMENT OF MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING ON, ON SINGLE FAMILY STREETS, SPECIFICALLY REGARD TO QUOTE, NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUE, TRAFFIC, PARKING, CAPACITY, LOSS OF MANY LEGACY TREES, AND THE POTENTIAL OVERLOAD OF AGING UTILITY SYSTEMS. THESE POLICY PREFERENCES SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED BY EITHER PLANNING COMMISSIONERS OR CITY STAFF. 
          THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER PROPERTY VALUES BY OVER 40% AND EXACERBATE ALREADY WELL-DOCUMENTED TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CURRENT OPERATIONS OF ALAMI SOCIAL CLUB PATRONS NEXT DOOR. 
          THIRD, SEVERAL LOCAL REAL ESTATE MARKET STUDIES HAVE REVEALED THAT WHILE INTRODUCING MULTIFAMILY UNITS MAY NOT IMPACT THE LARGER NORTH DALLAS HOUSING MARKET SUCH WILL DEFINITELY NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING MARKET. 
          THE PROPOSED REZONING CLASSIFICATION WILL ESTABLISH A BAD PRECEDENT THAT CAN BE USED ANYWHERE IN DISTRICT 13 OR ANY OTHER DISTRICT FOR THAT MATTER. 
          RTN IS TYPICALLY A HALF A BLOCK LONG AND IS AN AND AND IS APPLIED IN AREAS WHERE THE CITY WANTS TO PROPOSE TRANSIT FOR AND DEVELOPMENT. 
          NEITHER OF THOSE EXIST HERE. 
          IN CONCLUSION, IN RELIANCE OF THE HISTORIC ZONING AND REPL REQUIREMENTS, MAX SHANNON RESIDENTS HAVE PAID HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TAXES AND ASSESSMENTS IN THE FAITH THAT THEIR HOMES WOULD APPRECIATE AND VALUE AT THE SAME RATE AS SIMILAR NEARBY WHITE AND JEWISH HOMES. 
          CHANGING THE RULES NOW IS UNFAIR, UNJUST, AND RACIALLY INSENSITIVE IN THAT IT ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSES HOME EQUITY, WHICH REPRESENTS NEARLY HALF OF THE NET WORTH OF BLACK HOMEOWNER IAN STATE OBJECTS TO BEING USED AS A GUINEA PIG. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME WE CALLING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE CALLING NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE OTHER SPEAKER ONLINE, MR. GLENN HOLLY. 
          OH, WE DON'T SEE 'EM ONLINE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY MORE SPEAKERS? HEARING NONE. 
          CAN WE GET A MOTION? IS THERE OPPORTUNITY? YES, SIR. 
          MR. CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          IN THE MATTER OF CASE C 25 0 0 0 1, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NOT ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, BUT TO DENY THE REQUEST WITHOUT PREJUDICE. 
          AND IF I GET A SECOND, I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          YOU HAVE A SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS CASE. 
          AT FIRST, I THOUGHT THAT THE PROPOSED RTN WAS A CREATIVE WAY TO ADD A SMALL AMOUNT OF NEEDED HOUSING FOR YOUNG FAMILIES, BUT AS THE PROCESS TO REACH TODAY'S HEARING WERE ON, I BEGAN TO FEEL THAT THERE WAS TOO MUCH UNCERTAINTY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO RECOMMEND A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE. 
          AT THIS TIME, EVEN ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITH THE PRESTON ROAD ADDRESS, THE OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING, UH, ZONING CHANGE FILED A REQUEST TO DECLARE THE THE STREET A HISTORICAL DISTRICT. 
          THERE ARE EXCELLENT HISTORICAL REASONS TO JUSTIFY 
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THE REQUEST. 
          AT THE SAME TIME, THE SIX PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE ORTHODOX COMMUNITY WERE ALLOWED TO OPT OUT OF THE PROCESS ON RELIGIOUS GROUNDS. 
          ALL SIX DID. 
          WE'VE LEARNED THAT THE RTN WOULD FORCE THE PROPOSED TOWN HOMES TO BE BUILT FACING SHAN ROAD AND NOT PRESTON ROAD AS ORIGINALLY HOPED. 
          THIS IS OPPOSED BY MANY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THERE ARE ALSO ISSUES RELATED TO ON STREET PARKING CONGESTION AT THE INTERSECTION OF PRESTON AND SHAN. 
          THE RTN ALLOWS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF ALLEY LOADED OFF STREET PARKING FOR THE TOWN HOMES. 
          AND THERE ARE QUESTIONS REGARDING WHETHER THE STREET PARKING AVAILABLE FOR THE PROPOSED HOMES IS ADEQUATE. 
          AT THIS MOMENT, I DON'T KNOW IF OUR COMMISSION WILL APPROVE MY MOTION FOR DENIAL OR NOT, AND OF COURSE WE DON'T KNOW IF COUNSEL WOULD SUPPORT THE APPLICATION OR NOT. 
          HOWEVER, THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS TO GET THIS TO COUNCIL IN ANY CASE. 
          BUT IF OUR COMMISSION VOTES TO APPROVE THE MOTION FOR DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE, I ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANTS TO REGROUP, CONSIDER OTHER OPTIONS REFILED, AND COME BACK WITH A MORE REFINED APPLICATION FEATURING SITE PLANS AND RENDERINGS. 
          IS THERE AN OPTION OTHER THAN TOWNHOME STYLE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES? FOR EXAMPLE, STAFF'S REPORT MENTIONS DUPLEXES. 
          PERHAPS THESE COULD BE BUILT TO MATCH EXISTING HOMES ALONG THE STREET. 
          THIS WOULD REQUIRE ANOTHER ZONING CHANGE, OF COURSE, IN THE APPLICANT'S WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY PLANNING AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS TO DETERMINE IF DUPLEXES ARE VIABLE. 
          EVEN THOUGH THE THREE HOME SITES OWNED BY THE APPLICANTS WERE ALLOWED TO OPT OUT OF THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT. 
          I ENCOURAGED THE APPLICANTS TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO SEE HOW THESE SITES COULD BLEND IN WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT. 
          I ALSO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANTS TO CONSIDER WORKING TO RESOLVE THE PARKING CONGESTION AT PRESTON SHAN INTERSECTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND BEFORE WE CONTINUE DISCUSSION, UH, WAS THAT DENIAL WITH PREJUDICE OR WITHOUT? WITHOUT, WITHOUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MORE DISCUSSION? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER KINGSTON. 
          YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE MOTION. 
          I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. 
          UM, TECHNICALLY, UH, RTN RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION DISTRICT, ACCORDING TO OUR CODE, SHOULD BE HALF A BLOCK. 
          THIS SITE DOESN'T QUALIFY. 
          AND YOU KNOW, IF NO OTHER REASON THEN BEFORE DALLAS WE JUST PASSED AND THE RTN RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION DISTRICT'S OWN DEFINITION, I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO PUT TO CHANGE THE ZONING AT THAT SITE AS REQUESTED. 
          UM, BUT EVEN ABSENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A VERY MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, PARTICULARLY IN THE NORTH PART OF THE CITY WHERE THEY'RE SEEKING HISTORIC DESERT HISTORIC PRESERVATION. 
          WHILE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A ZONING DECISION, I THINK THAT IT SPEAKS TO THE GREATER, UM, CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HISTORY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS A VERY STABLE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED IN A VERY SPECIFIC WAY. 
          AND THESE TOWN HOMES DEVELOPED AND MAINTAINED, I SHOULD SAY. 
          AND THIS TOWN HOME PROPOSAL STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. 
          IT, IT'S NOT THAT I NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH HAVING SLIGHTLY MORE DENSITY ON CORNERS, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT'S CAN BE A GOOD IDEA IN A LOT OF PLACES. 
          JUST NOT THIS ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. 
          I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND I'M VERY PLEASED THAT, UH, IT WAS, UH, SO THOROUGHLY AND WELL THOUGHT OUT. 
          I LIVED FOR 25 YEARS OVER THERE NEXT TO SHAN ON DOWN IN SHARRE ESTATES AND WORKED WITH, UH, PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE GREAT ADMIRATION AND RESPECT FOR WHAT YOU HAVE THERE. 
          AND I HOPE YOU CAN CONTINUE TO PROTECT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT COMMISSIONER COS YES. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING, UH, COMMISSIONER HALL'S MOTION. 
          I WANT TO THANK THE HOMEOWNERS FOR COMING DOWN TO CITY HALL FOR THE VERY ELOQUENT AND WELL THOUGHT OUT WORDS. 
          UH, REVEREND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE LOVE YOU TOO AND I THINK THE LOVE IS RECIPROCATED HERE WITH MR. HALL. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          COMMISSIONER SERATO. 
          YEAH, I TOO WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. 
          UH, JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HOMEOWNERS, UM, FOR COMING OUT TODAY AND SPEAKING AND, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES SINCE WE'VE SEEN THIS CASE COME BEFORE OUR HORSESHOE SEVERAL TIMES. 
          SO, UM, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          I GUESS I'LL GO. 
          Y'ALL READY? NO, I'M JUST, I'M GONNA BE QUICK 'CAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF TIME, A LOT OF WORK TO DO. 
          UM, BUT, UM, 
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STARTING WITH WILL HAN AND HIS BROTHER OWNED THE FARMLAND IN FAR NORTH DALLAS LAND. 
          THEY PURCHASED AFTER EMANCIPATION LAND. 
          THEY WORKED LAND, THEY KEPT THE ROAD. 
          WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY BEARS THEIR NAME BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE NOT AS TENANTS, NOT AS LABORERS ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, NOT AS SLAVES, AS OWNERS, AS TEXANS WHO CAME OUT OF BONDAGE AND AGAINST EVERY FORCE THAT WAS ARRAYED AGAINST THEM, PUT THEIR NAME ON THE EARTH. 
          THAT IS WHAT SHAN ROAD IS. 
          AND THEN IN THE MID 1950S, THE SAME DECADE THIS CITY WAS DYNAMIC, WAS DYNAMITE BOMBING BLACK HOMEOWNERS IN SOUTH DALLAS TO PUSH THEM OUT. 
          THE SAME DECADE, WHITE FAMILIES ACROSS THE CITY WERE FLEEING THE ARRIVAL OF BLACK NEIGHBORS. 
          MR. SHAN'S, DESCENDANTS IN THEIR COMMUNITY LOOKED AT THIS LAND AND BUILT SOMETHING INTENTIONAL ON IT. 
          THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD IN DALLAS BUILT FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS BY AFRICAN AMERICANS, DESIGNED BY FOUR BLACK DOCTORS THAN TEACHERS, ATTORNEYS, ENGINEERS AND CLERGY UP UPWARDLY MOBILE, BLACK DALLAS STAKING ACC CLAIM IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE CITY ON LAND. 
          THEIR OWN PEOPLE HAD ALREADY BROKEN AND PLANTED AND NAMED. 
          THAT IS ALSO WHAT MICHAN ROAD IS. 
          NOW I WANT TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR JEWISH BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF SOUTH DALLAS. 
          BEFORE PRESTON HOLLOW BECAME ANYTHING, BEFORE IT HAD A SYNAGOGUE OR HEBREW SCHOOLS, OR THE DENSITY OF JEWISH INSTITUTIONAL LIFE, IT CARRIES TODAY FOREST AVENUE. 
          THE ROAD WE KNOW NOW AS MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. 
          BOULEVARD WAS THE SPINE OF ONE OF THE LARGEST JEWISH SETTLEMENTS IN THE ENTIRE AMERICAN SOUTH. 
          THE SANGERS, THE SHEP, THE FREEDMANS, THE BERGS GROCERIES, BLATS BAKERY NEIGHBORS WALKING TOGETHER TO THE ISRAEL TEMPLE. 
          A COMMUNITY THAT HAS BUILT HAD BUILT ITSELF OUT OF DISPLACEMENT. 
          THE JEWISH COMMUNITIES ALWAYS HAVE WITH FAITH IN COMMERCE AND THE STUBBORN INSISTENCE ON BELONGING. 
          AND WHEN BLACK FAMILIES BLOWN OUT OF THEIR HOMES, DYNAMITE, DYNAMITE IT AND BURNED WITH NOWHERE TO GO. 
          BEGIN ARRIVING IN SOUTH DALLAS IN 1940S AND FIFTIES, THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OF SOUTH DALLAS MADE THE CHOICE THAT MOST WHITE AMERICANS MADE IN THAT ERA. 
          THEY MOVED NORTH, THE LIVED THE LIVING MOVED FIRST, THEN THE SYNAGOGUES FOUGHT. 
          TEMPLE EMANUEL RIF ISRAEL. 
          THE CONGREGATIONAL TRACKED THEIR MEMBERS NORTH AND BUILT AGAIN IN PRESTON HOLLOW. 
          AND THEN, AND THIS IS THE PART I NEED YOU TO HEAR, SOME OF THEM EVEN MOVED THEIR DEAD. 
          IN 1956, THE DALLAS CIVIC CENTER CONSTRUCTED CONSTRUCTION THREATENED THEIR ORIGINAL JEWISH CEMETERY ON ACKER STREET DOWNTOWN. 
          THOSE GRAVES WERE DISINTER AND RELOCATED TO TEMPLE EMMANUEL. 
          WHILE OUR GRAVES WERE RAN OVER ON 75 CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, BLACK DALLAS COULD NOT MOVE. 
          ITS DEAD. 
          THE JEWISH COMMUNITY MOVED ITS DEAD WITH INTENTION, WITH CEREMONY, WITH THEOLOGICAL RIGHT OF A COMMUNITY THAT UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT MEANT TO CARRY ITS ANCESTORS. 
          I AM NOT STANDING HERE TO OPPOSE THIS APPLICATION ON SENTIMENT ALONE. 
          I AM SUPPORTING COMMISSIONER HALL. 
          I WILL EXAMINE THE FINDINGS. 
          I WILL WEIGH THE COMPATIBILITY OF TRAFFIC LIKE WE'VE ALWAYS DONE. 
          BUT THE MOTION HERE IS IMPORTANT TO PRETEND THIS LAND HAS NO MEMORY IS BEYOND ME AND THIS BODY. 
          EVERY TIME THIS COMMISSION IS ASKED TO RESIGN A PARCEL IN THIS CITY, WE ARE MAKING A DECISION ABOUT WHOSE FUTURE THIS CITY IS BUILDING. 
          SOUTH DALLAS, THE COMMUNITY, THOSE JEWISH FAMILIES LEFT THE COMMUNITY THAT ABSORBED BLACK FAMILIES WHO HAD NOWHERE WE'RE INVESTING IN, WE'RE DOUBLING DOWN, BUT TO THE MCSHANE ROAD FAMILIES THAT LIVE THERE TODAY, YOU, WE OWE YOU A AS BLACK AMERICANS FOR STANDING HOLDING ON TO 75 YEARS OF DEVELOPED LAND AND EVEN LONGER OF LAND THAT WAS FARMLAND. 
          SO THANK YOU BLACK WOMEN AND WHEN FOR HOLDING SO MUCH AND BEING HERE TODAY, LOOKING AT YOUR FACES MAKES ME EMOTIONAL. 
          HAVING YOU COME DOWN HERE FOR THE SECOND TIME MAKES ME EMOTIONAL, BUT I'M THANKFUL FOR YOU AND WE ARE ALL. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          AND THAT'S THE END OF MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE. 
          UH, LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK. 
          I'M SORRY, WE HAVE TO, OH, WE HAVE TO VOTE. 
          THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          VOTE, VOTE, VOTE, VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THANK Y'ALL. 
          . 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE'LL TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, GANG, LET'S GET BACK INTO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          RETURNING BACK FROM BREAK AT 2 0 4, 
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UH, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION MEETING CAN, UM, CONTINUE. 
          WE'LL START BACK WITH CASE NUMBER 21, MR. BATE. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          [21. 26-2032A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a private recreation club or area on property zoned Tract 1A, Planned Development District No. 160, on the southwest and southeast corners of W. Canty Street and N. Vernon Avenue.]
ITEM 21 IS CASE Z 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 3 2. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE RECREATION CLUB OR AREA ON PROPERTY ZONE DETRACT ONE, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 1 6 0 ON THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST CORNERS OF WEST COUNTY STREET IN NORTH VERNON AVENUE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, LADY JENNIFER, YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK MR. CHAIR. 
          UH, BRIEF POINT. 
          YES, BRIEF POINT OF ORDER. 
          UH, JUST THAT IF, IF THE CHAIR WOULD REMIND ALL WHO ARE IN ATTENDANCE OF OUR RULES OF DECORUM, THAT THEY'RE TO ADDRESS THEIR REMARKS TOWARD THE CHAIR AND NOT TOWARD ANY INDIVIDUAL. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER SIMS. UM, PLEASE DIRECT EVERYTHING TO THE CHAIR AND NOT TO, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BODY. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT AND, UM, WE WILL LIMIT, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY, WE ARE GONNA LIMIT THE TIME TO TWO MINUTES VERSUS THREE TO TRY TO GET THROUGH AS MANY COMMENTS AS WE CAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, JENNIFER. 
          HI, MOTO, 1 0 2 3 3 EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY. 
          UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT LASSO AND OUR HUMBLE REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PRIVATE RECREATION CENTER, UH, TO BE OCCUPIED IN TWO SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES. 
          UM, WE ARE LOCATED IN THE KIDS SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, THIS IS A VERY RICH AND DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, IT IS COMPRISED OF BUSINESSES, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, MULTIFAMILY, DUPLEX, TOWNHOUSES. 
          UM, IT'S A VERY DESIRABLE LOCATION FOR FAMILIES, CREATIVES, YOUNGER FOLKS, AND, UH, ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORS. 
          LASSO IS MORE THAN JUST YOGA AND SOUND BATHS. 
          WE ARE A MEMBERSHIP BASED CLUB THAT PROVIDES A PLACE FOR COMMUNITY, UH, SIMILAR TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          CLUBHOUSE MEMBERS CAN RETREAT TO COWORK IN ONE OF THE LIVING ROOMS BY THE FIREPLACE AT ONE OF THE KITCHEN TABLES OR ON A PORCH. 
          UH, OR THEY CAN SIT BY THE POOL WITH ONE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS OR FRIENDS, UH, SURROUNDED BY A WALL OF BAMBOO. 
          UH, THESE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ARE WHAT THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WHICH THAT'S THE WEST CORNER, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, UM, LOOK LIKE BEFORE, UH, MS. MADISON, THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY FOR HER RESIDENCE. 
          UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, SHE DOES OWN BOTH PROPERTIES AND LIVED IN BOTH PROPERTIES AT SOME POINT IN TIME. 
          UM, BUT THIS SHOWS IT'S LIKE A COOKIE MONSTER BLUE KIND OF COLOR, BUT, UM, THAT THE CARE, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TAKEN INTO RENOVATING THE PROPERTY, UM, FROM A STATE OF NEGLECT TO AN INVITING, WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT, UM, WE WILL MAINTAIN OUR LOW SCALE AND INTENSITY THROUGH THE STRICT SUP CONDITIONS, UM, THAT WE'VE PROVIDED. 
          THESE ARE INTENTIONAL TO SHOW OUR DESIRE TO BLEND IN WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELP SERVE THE NEED FOR A GATHERING SPACE AND FOR WELLNESS. 
          UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED, UM, IN THE BINDERS THAT ARE GOING AROUND, UM, ALSO REPRESENTED ON THIS MAP. 
          THAT'S, THAT GOES FAST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. JENNIFER. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK? UM, OR I GUESS WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT. 
          IF YOU GUYS WANNA START COMING DOWN AND THE NEXT SPEAKER UP CAN COME ON UP, MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT THE YELLOW CARD. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, UH, START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO, UH, MY NAME IS LIZ SCHUBERT. 
          UH, I LIVE AT 7 21 WINSTON. 
          ME AND MY WIFE LIVE AT 7 21 WINSTON STREET, WHICH IS TWO HOUSES AWAY FROM EO. 
          I'VE BEEN NEIGHBORS SINCE THE BEGINNING, THOUGH WE ARE NOT MEMBERS OF EO BECAUSE OF OUR PROXIMITY, WE, UH, SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT TAKES PLACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY, NOT JUST DURING EVENTS OR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          I ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT KIDS SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOES NOT SPEAK FOR US AND SHOULD NOT HAVE REPRESENTED OUR VIEWS PUBLICLY. 
          AND IT HAS, I'M SORRY, AND HAVE NOT, SHOULD NOT HAVE REPRESENTED OUR VIEWS PUBLICLY. 
          UH, LASALLE HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE PROPERTY IS WELL MAINTAINED, WELCOMING, AND HAS TRANSFORMED WHAT WAS ONCE AN EYESORE INTO A PLACE OF RESIDENTS CAN TAKE PRIDE IN. 
          IT ADDS CHARACTER VIBRANCY IN THE AREA RATHER THAN DETRACTING FROM IT. 
          BEFORE LASALLE, THIS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LACKED A GATHERING SPACE, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE FELT COMFORTABLE TO CONNECT AS FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. 
          SINCE OPENING THE SOUL HAS BROUGHT LIFE AND ENERGY BACK INTO RIGHT, SORRY, AND A STRONGER SENSE OF COMMUNITY INTO THE AREA OF OAK CLIFF. 
          IT HAS BECOME A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GATHER, SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES, BUILD RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING AND NOISE. 
          AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES SO CLOSE, I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE RELATED TO LASALLE'S OPERATION. 
          ON A BUSY WEEKENDS, UH, KIDS SPRINGS PARK OFTEN ATTRACT FAMILIES, SPORTS ACTIVITIES, FESTIVALS, AND VISITORS FROM ACROSS DALLAS, CREATING A GREAT FAR GREATER PARKING DEMAND THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER 
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OBSERVED AT AT LASALLE. 
          REGARDING TRAFFIC FLOW FLOW, CHANGES IN THE AREA MAY MOST ARE CLOSELY INSULATED OR SORRY, TIED TO THE INSULATION OF THE ROUNDABOUT, WHICH HAS ALTERED THE WINSTON STREET ACCESS, DIVERTING IT TO CANTY. 
          AS FOR NOISE, I HEAR MORE DISTURBANCE FROM THE STREET RACING OCCASION, A GUN, FLOWER AND GUNFIRE AND OAK CLIFF THAN I DO FROM THE SOUL. 
          IN ONE RARE OCCASION, A NOISE PAPER CONCERN, A SIMPLE TEXT MESSAGE TO TAYLOR, RESOLVE THE ISSUE QUICKLY. 
          THAT RESPONSIVENESS IS WHAT WE LOOK FOR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AS A NEIGHBOR WHO LIVES TWO HOUSES AWAY FROM THE SOUL AND EXPERIENCE THE IMPACT EVERY DAY, I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT LAS SOLE TAYLOR AND HER MOTHER, THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GO FOR IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER, . 
          HEY, COMMISSION. 
          UH, MY NAME IS NATE HIMEY. 
          I LIVE AT 3 3 6 BECKLEY WOOD BOULEVARD IN DISTRICT FOUR, AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT MY, UH, VOICE, MY SUPPORT FOR THIS SUP AND EXPAND A BIT ON Y UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE MEMBERS AT LI SOUL AND IT'S ONE OF THE FEW PLACES IN DALLAS WHERE WE'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND CONNECT WITH OTHERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT'S OUR THIRD PLACE, UH, WHERE WE GO TO CONNECT AND IT'S A PLACE, A TYPE OF PLACE THAT'S SORELY MISSING IN DALLAS. 
          AND FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, LI SOUL'S BEEN VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED IT AS DISRUPTIVE. 
          I LITERALLY JUST GO THERE TO HANG OUT BY THE POOL  AND AS REPORTED BY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, UH, BOTH HERE TODAY AND IN, UH, THE RECENT OAK CLIFF ADVOCATE ARTICLE, UM, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN SUPER RESPECTFUL. 
          UH, THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE ARTICLE. 
          JOHN DANIEL, WHO LIVES ACROSS THE ALLEY FROM ONE OF THE PROPERTIES, SAID THAT AS A NEIGHBOR TO A SOUL, HE'S ONLY HAD TWO EXPERIENCES WHERE THE MUSIC WAS TOO LOUD. 
          AND AFTER A QUICK TEXT TO MADISON TAYLOR MADISON, THE OWNER, UH, AND STAFF, HE SAID THE VOLUME WAS TAKEN CARE OF PRETTY MUCH IMMEDIATELY. 
          UH, AGAIN, THIS IS STILL QUOTING HIM. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT WHAT MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN LIKE AS A NEIGHBOR IS THE REALLY EXCELLENT NEIGHBORS. 
          I THINK WHAT THIS IS IS A, A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE DALLAS ZONING HASN'T QUITE CAUGHT UP TO SPACES THAT ARE CREATED IN OUR CITY, AND ESPECIALLY IN OAK CLIFF SPACES LIKE THIS THAT BLEND COMMUNITY AND WELLNESS AND SMALL GATHERINGS, UH, DON'T REALLY FIT NEATLY INTO OUR 80-YEAR-OLD ZONING CODE, UM, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE CLEARLY ADDING VALUE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I WANNA EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE SEP, UH, AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD CASE TO CONSIDER AND THINK ABOUT AS WE TAKE A BROADER LOOK AT ZONING, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, THIS YEAR AND INTO NEXT YEAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS ANGEL POE AND I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF LASALLE SINCE 2024. 
          UH, MY ADDRESS IS 5 2 3 WATSON DRIVE. 
          I'VE ALSO LIVED IN OAK CLIFF FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS. 
          I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF JOURNEY BOARD MENTORING, A GRASSROOTS EDUCATION NONPROFIT SERVING OAK CLIFF, AND I SERVE ON THE CITY OF DALLAS TRIAL BOARD AS AN ADJUNCT BOARD MEMBER. 
          I'M ALSO A FREQUENT VISITOR TO KIDSPRING PARK WITH MY SEVEN-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER. 
          I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT DALLAS OAK CLIFF AND THE KIDS SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO OWN FAVOR OF THE SUP BECAUSE OF THE POSITIVE IMPACT LAS SOUL HAS ON THE COMMUNITY. 
          I FIRST GOT A MEMBERSHIP AT LASSO BECAUSE I WANTED A PLACE TO CO-WORK OUT OF AND IT IS AN INSPIRING AND BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BE IN, BUT I CAME TO FIND THAT SO MUCH MORE. 
          I'VE MADE BEST FRIENDS THERE. 
          I'VE COLLABORATED ON WORK PROJECTS THERE WHICH BENEFIT BOTH THE KID SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE BROADER OAK CLIFF COMMUNITY. 
          I'VE HAD A SPACE TO REST AND RECOVER AS I PERSONALLY MOVED THROUGH DIFFICULT TIMES. 
          I'VE TRULY FOUND A COMMUNITY THERE. 
          THIRD PLACES ARE PIVOTAL AND BUILDING STRONGER COMMUNITIES IN CITIES. 
          I'VE MET AND FORMED CONNECTIONS WITH PEOPLE AT EO ACROSS DIFFERENT RACES AND ETHNICITIES, AGE GROUPS, SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS AND PROFESSIONS AS I KNOW MANY OTHERS HAVE. 
          LASSO IS UNIQUE IN PROVIDING A SPACE FOR WORK, WELLNESS, FUN, AND TOGETHERNESS. 
          FOR THESE REASONS, I STRONGLY URGE THE COMMISSION TO VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THE SUP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS CRYSTALLINE AMY SARU AND MY ADDRESS IS 1 1 1 SYCAMORE STREET IN BULK SPRINGS. 
          UM, I RUN A SMALL BUSINESS MICRO BAKERY CALLED EARL GRAY BAKERY AND A COUP A FEW MONTHS AGO. 
          LAST YEAR I WAS SORT OF SCOUTED BY LAS SOUL TO HELP WITH THEIR FOOD AND BEVERAGE PROGRAM AND UM, THAT SORT OF BEGUN MY PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH LAS SOUL. 
          AND I THINK ONE THING THAT'S REALLY VALUABLE ABOUT LAS SOUL AND THEIR OPERATIONS, I SORT OF VIEW IT AS A CULTURAL EMBASSY. 
          UM, WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I STUDIED INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS IN FRENCH AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT I WOULD WORK IN THAT REALM IN DIPLOMACY. 
          AND THEN WORKING IN FOOD, I ALWAYS KIND OF WONDERED HOW WILL I GET TO EXERCISE THIS INTERNATIONAL ASPECT. 
          AND WORKING AT LAS SOUL OR WORKING WITH LAS SOUL HAS HELPED ME TO BRING THAT TO LIFE. 
          UM, IT'S CREATED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO EXPRESS, UM, CREATIVITY UNDER THE 
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DIFFERENT PROMPTS THAT I'M GIVEN. 
          UM, CONNECTS ME TO A WIDER RANGE OF AUDIENCE, UM, BOTH HERE IN DALLAS AND INTERNATIONALLY. 
          AND YEAH, I THINK LASSO PRESENTS A LOT OF VALUABLE INTER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUTH HERE IN DALLAS AND FOR CREATIVES. 
          AND THEREFORE I VOTE IN FAVOR OF, WELL, I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO, UM, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT, UM, THEIR OPERATIONS IN DALLAS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          HI, MY NAME IS STEVIE VESSELS. 
          I LIVE AT SEVEN 30 WINSTON STREET, ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPOSED SUV PROPERTY. 
          I WANT TO START BY COMMENDING THE MEMBERS OF THE KS KID SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WHO ARE HERE IN PERSON TO OR REMOTELY TO OPPOSE THE GRANTING OF AN SUP. 
          IT IS THE MISSION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO MONITOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND THE GOAL OF MAINTAINING A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE, PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY CHARACTER OF THE AREA. 
          THEIR COMMITMENT OF TIME AND OF SOMETIMES PERSONAL RESOURCES IN THE FURTHERANCE OF ADVOCATING FOR OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD BE COMMENDED AND GIVEN RESPECT AS SHOULD ALL MEMBERS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ACROSS THE CITY. 
          I TOO AM A MEMBER OF THE KID SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED SUP. 
          I FIRST BECAME AWARE OF THE PROPOSED SUP IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR WHEN I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE SOUL, UM, INVITING NEIGHBORS TO MEET AND LEARN ABOUT THE PROPOSAL AND PRESENT OUR CONCERNS. 
          IT WAS SCHEDULED IN JANUARY 27TH, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ICE STORM HAPPENED FEBRUARY 10TH. 
          WHEN I ATTENDED THE MEETING, I WENT WITH A LOT OF SKEPTICISM AND MANY CONCERNS. 
          I WASN'T SHY ABOUT PRESENTING MY CONCERNS. 
          WHAT ABOUT LOUD LATE NIGHT PARTIES? WHAT IF THIS MADE IT EASIER FOR SUVS TO GET IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? HOW WOULD I KNOW THAT ONCE THEY WERE GRANTED AN SUP, THEY WOULDN'T USE IT FOR A FRAT HOUSE OR I SAID IT SOME KIND OF EPSTEIN BUSINESS. 
          WHAT IF THE SUP WAS GRANTED BUT THEN THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD TO SOMEONE WITH DIFFERENT PLANS? THEY NOT ONLY LISTENED TO MY CONCERNS, THEY WELCOMED THEM. 
          I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED BY THEIR RESPONSES. 
          BUT RESPONSES IN A MEETING ARE ONE THING. 
          WHAT GETS PUT ON PAPER IS A WHOLE OTHER THING. 
          WHEN THE PROPOSED SEP WAS SUBMITTED AND I SAW THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY HAD VOLUNTARILY CREATED AS WELL AS THE LIMIT OF ONE YEAR TERM IN THE FIRST YEAR, ALL OF MY CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED. 
          THE TRUTH IS, IF THIS BUSINESS MOVES AND THE HOUSES ARE SOLD, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THEY WOULD BE BOUGHT BY AN THANK INSTITUTIONAL INVESTOR. 
          YOUR, I'M SORRY. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER? YES MA'AM. 
          HELLO, I'M DR. 
          CAROLINE LEE, 5 1 4 SOUTH VIRGINIA. 
          I'M A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST AND I'VE BEEN LIVING AND PRACTICING AN OAK CLIFF FOR THE LAST DECADE AND I'M HERE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF LASALLE. 
          I WANNA BEGIN BY BEING TRANSPARENT. 
          THE OWNER AND FOUNDER OF LASALLE IS MY BEST FRIEND. 
          I LOVE HER AND DEEPLY ADMIRE HER, BUT THAT IS NOT WHY I'M HERE TODAY. 
          AS A PSYCHOLOGIST, I WORK EVERY DAY WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE ISOLATED, PEOPLE WHO GO TO WORK, SHOP, RAISE KIDS, PAY THE BILLS, AND THEN GO HOME AND FEEL PROFOUNDLY ALONE. 
          LONELINESS IS NOT JUST A PRIVATE FEELING, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          ONE WAY AS A COMMUNITY TO RESPOND BY RESPOND TO ISOLATION IS TO PROTECT THIRD SPACES. 
          AND THIS IS WHAT LASALLE IS. 
          WHAT TAYLOR HAS CULTIVATED IS RARE. 
          I HAVE WATCHED A NEIGHBOR COME IN GOING THROUGH CANCER TREATMENT, FIND SUPPORT. 
          I HAVE WATCHED TIRED MOTHERS WALK ACROSS THE PARK TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE AT LASALLE AND COMMISERATE AND FIND SUPPORT. 
          THESE MAY SOUND LIKE SMALL THINGS, BUT THEY ARE NOT. 
          THIS IS HOW TRUST IS BUILT. 
          THIS IS HOW WE REMEMBER HOW TO BE HUMANS WITH ONE ANOTHER. 
          THERE'S ALSO A GENDER AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE PIECE HERE THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS. 
          WHEN WE MAKE IT HARDER FOR SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE SERVICE ORIENTED BUSINESSES TO EXIST, WE SHOULD ASK WHO IS MOST AFFECTED? OFTEN IT IS WOMEN AND IT IS CAREGIVERS WHO ARE NOT TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING EXTRACTIVE OR DISRUPTIVE, BUT SOMETHING RELATIONAL AND LOCAL AND ROOTED IN CARE. 
          I ALSO WANNA SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE ROLE OF FEAR AND THE VOICES OF THE OPPOSITION. 
          TODAY I'VE GONE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, I'VE READ THE FACEBOOK COMMENTS, AND I WANNA SAY CLEARLY THAT FEAR IS NOT HOW WE BUILD COMMUNITY. 
          FEAR ASKS US TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON HYPOTHETICAL WORST CASE SCENARIOS. 
          TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
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GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS ANTONIO KEENER. 
          I LIVE AT 10 17 NORTH BISHOP AND I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THE KIDS SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR NEARLY SEVEN YEARS. 
          I WANNA BEGIN BY SAYING THAT I UNDERSTAND THE INSTINCT TO PROTECT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I DO. 
          THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. 
          I WATCHED BISHOP ARTS CHANGE DRAMATICALLY DURING THE TIME I'VE LIVED HERE. 
          I'VE WATCHED BELOVED PLACES DISAPPEAR. 
          POETS, POETS BOOKS CLOSED, THE CIGAR SHOP CLOSED. 
          MORE AND MORE PLACES THAT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN, LINGER AND CONNECT HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY BUSINESSES BUILT AROUND CONSUMPTION RATHER THAN COMMUNITY. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND THE FEAR. 
          WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WHY THE SOUL IS BEING TREATED AS A THREAT TO THAT VISION. 
          WHEN IN MY EXPERIENCE IT EMBODIES IT. 
          I'VE ATTENDED THE MEETINGS, I'VE LISTENED CAREFULLY TO THE CONCERNS AND WHAT STRIKES ME MOST IS THAT MANY OF THE ARGUMENTS SEEM TO BE RESPONDING TO WHAT PEOPLE IMAGINE LASSO IS RATHER THAN WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS. 
          LAS SOUL IS NOT A BAR NOT ALLOWED EVENT VENUE, NOT A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE. 
          DISRUPTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE READ BOOKS, GET WORK DONE, SIT IN THE GARDEN, ATTEND WELLNESS PROGRAMMING, AND HAVING THE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS MOST OF US WISH WE WERE HAVING MORE OFTEN LAST YEAR I LOST MY FATHER, I LOST MY AUNT A FEW MONTHS LATER AND AFTER A DECADE OF FERTILITY, TREATMENTS, SURGERIES, SETBACKS, HOPE AND HEARTBREAK, MY HUSBAND AND I LOST OUR BABY THROUGH MISCARRIAGE. 
          WHEN I THINK ABOUT LAS SOUL, I DON'T THINK ABOUT A BUSINESS. 
          I THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SAT WITH ME IN THOSE LOSSES, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT REMINDED ME I WASN'T ALONE. 
          I THINK ABOUT WALKING THROUGH THOSE DOORS AND FINDING A SOFT PLACE TO LAND WHEN LIFE FELT IMPOSSIBLY HEAVY. 
          I HAVE A FRIEND THERE NAVIGATING BREAST CANCER ANOTHER RECENTLY LOST HER MOTHER THROUGH COLON CANCER. 
          THESE ARE NOT NETWORKING CONVERSATIONS, THESE AREN'T TRANSACTIONAL RELATIONSHIPS. 
          THESE ARE NEIGHBORS SHOWING UP FOR ONE ANOTHER IN REAL LIFE. 
          THAT IS WHAT COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE. 
          I'VE MET MORE NEIGHBORS THROUGH THE SOUL THAN I MET IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS BEFORE JOINING. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MORE SPEAKERS? THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CHAIR PEOPLE. 
          MY NAME IS STEVEN KEENER AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF 10 17 NORTH BISHOP AVENUE FOR THE PAST SEVEN YEARS IN, IN KIDS SPRINGS AND I TOO AM A MEMBER OF LASSO. 
          I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR LASSO. 
          MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE USE OF THE SUP PROCESS FOR EXACTLY WHAT IT IS DESIGNED TO DO TO EVALUATE A SPECIFIC USE AT A SPECIFIC LOCATION UNDER SPECIFIC AND ENFORCEABLE CONDITIONS. 
          THAT'S THE QUESTION HERE TODAY. 
          NOT HYPOTHETICALS, NOT FUTURE APPLICATIONS. 
          IT'S THIS SITE UNDER THIS USE AND THESE CONDITIONS AND THAT'S RECORD. 
          THE DALLAS COUNTY CODE GIVES A STANDARD, CLEARLY AN SUP SHOULD BE GRANTED ONLY WHEN IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES, PROMOTES OR ENHANCE THE WELFARE OF THE AREA AND IS NOT THEN INSTRUMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH OR GENERAL WELFARE, UH, GENERAL WELFARE AND OTHERWISE COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING STANDARDS. 
          THE SOLE MEETS THAT STANDARD ON COMPATIBILITY. 
          THIS ISN'T A REQUEST TO TEAR DOWN HOUSES AND DROP COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES INTO A RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS IS A REQUEST TO USE EXISTING SINGLE HOME STRUCTURES UNDER A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          UM, COMPATIBILITY DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE IDENTICAL. 
          IF IT DID, NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD NEVER HAVE PARKS, SCHOOLS PLACE, PLACES OF SHIP, RECREATION, BLAH, RECREATE RECREATION CENTERS OR CAREFULLY LIMITED COMMUN COMMUNITY SPACES. 
          AND HERE THE REGULATION IS REAL. 
          THE USE IS LIMITED. 
          THE SITE PLAN IS LIMITED. 
          THE FLOOR PLAN, THE FLOOR AREA IS CAPPED, THE HOURS ARE RESTRICTED, OUTDOOR SPEAKERS ARE PROHIBITIVE AND LOADING IS CONTROLLED. 
          THIS ISN'T A BLANK CHECK, THIS IS AN ASK FOR ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE WELFARE OF THE AREA. 
          I WOULD ASK TO CONSIDER WHAT MAKES NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT MAKES A NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTHY. 
          IT'S NOT ONLY WHAT WE KEEP OUT, IT'S ALSO WHAT WE ALLOW TO GROW. 
          DALLAS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I'M TAYLOR MADISON AT 7 34 WEST CANTY AND I'M THE FOUNDER AND STEWARD OF LAS SOUL. 
          10 YEARS AGO AS A 26-YEAR-OLD, I PURCHASED MY FIRST HOME IN KIDS SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD AT 7 34 WEST CANTY. 
          SINCE THEN, I HAVE DEDICATED MY TIME, ENERGY, AND PERSONAL RESOURCES TO PRESERVING, PROTECTING, AND IMPROVING THIS CORNER 
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OF OAK CLIFF. 
          WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, THIS AREA LOOKED VERY DIFFERENT THAN IT DOES TODAY. 
          LIVING ACROSS FROM KIDS SPRINGS PARK, I WITNESSED CHALLENGES THAT MANY LONG-TERM RESIDENTS KNOW WELL, CRIME, CAR THEFT, DRUG, DRUG ACTIVITY, VIOLENCE AND NEGLECT. 
          BUT I ALSO WITNESSED THE EXTRAORDINARY POTENTIAL OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PEOPLE WHO CARE DEEPLY ABOUT IT. 
          I BELIEVE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFITS WHEN RESIDENTS INVEST NOT ONLY IN THEIR OWN PROPERTY, BUT IN THE WELLBEING OF THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM. 
          OVER THE LAST DECADE, I HAVE RESTORED HISTORIC HOMES, CARED FOR PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN LOST TO REDEVELOPMENT AND INVESTED IN CREATING SPACES THAT STRENGTHEN COMMUNITY. 
          I CHOSE TO STAY HERE, INVEST HERE, AND BECOME PART OF THE LONG-TERM FUTURE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IN 2026, I PURCHASED THE HISTORIC 1925 ART DECO HOME DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY CANTY HOME. 
          THE PROPERTY HAD BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND INCLUDED THREE LOTS AND SIGNIFICANT OPEN GREEN SPACE. 
          RATHER THAN SEEING THE LAND DIVIDED AND REDEVELOPED, I CHOSE TO PRESERVE IT AS A WHOLE. 
          THAT HOME HAD LONG SERVED AS A GATHERING PLACE FOR ARTISTS, CREATIVES, AND NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORS UNDER THE STEWARDSHIP OF ITS PREVIOUS OWNERS. 
          I MOVED INTO THE PROPERTY IN THE SUMMER OF 2023 AND SPENT THE FOLLOWING YEAR RESTORING AND PRESERVING IT WHILE CONTINUING ITS LEGACY. 
          LEGACY AS A PLACE OF CONNECTION AND COMMUNITY. 
          WHAT EXISTS TODAY IS NOT THE RESULT OF OUTSIDE INVESTORS, CORPORATE OWNERSHIP OR A LARGE DEVELOPMENT GROUP. 
          IT HAS BEEN ENTIRELY SELF-FUNDED BY ME AND MY FAMILY BECAUSE WE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS FUTURE. 
          LASSO IS NOT A COMMERCIAL VENUE WHERE PEOPLE COME TO CONSUME AND LEAVE. 
          IT IS A SMALL SCALE COMMUNITY SPACE CENTERED ON CONNECTION, WELLNESS, CREATIVITY, AND BELONGING. 
          MANY OF OUR MEMBERS WALK OR BIKE THROUGH. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS STEPHANIE HERD AND I LIVE IN AT 7 25 WINSTON IN KID SPRINGS DIRECTLY BEHIND ONE OF THE LAS SOLE PROPERTIES AT ISSUE. 
          IN THIS SUP REQUEST, I AM ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS MOST DIRECTLY POSITIONED TO EXPERIENCE ANY IMPACT FROM LASSO. 
          IN LIGHT OF MY OWN EXPERIENCE, I SUPPORT LASSO AND ITS SEP REQUEST. 
          I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE WAY LASSO HAS BEEN PUBLICLY CHARACTERIZED. 
          I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THE NOISE, TRAFFIC, TRASH, PARKING, DISRUPTION, OR NEIGHBORHOOD DISTURBANCE THAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED. 
          UM, THIS AREA ALREADY HAS REGULAR ACTIVITY FROM KIDS SPRINGS PARK, THE RECREATION CENTER, UM, THE PUBLIC POOL, BISHOP ARTS AND TYLER POLK PROPERTY THAT MOVEMENT AND ENERGY ARE PART OF WHY MANY OF US LOVE LIVING HERE. 
          WHAT I HAVE SEEN FROM LAS SOUL IS SOMETHING THOUGHTFUL, BEAUTIFUL, AND COMMUNITY CENTERED. 
          TAYLOR HAS RESTORED THESE PROPERTIES WITH CARE, CREATIVITY, AND RESPECT FOR HISTORIC DESIGN. 
          LAS SOUL BRINGS ART, WELLNESS, CULTURE, CONVERSATION, AND CONNECTION INTO OAK CLIFF IN A WAY THAT FEELS ALIGNED WITH THE SPIRIT OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          AS A FORMER BUSINESS OWNER, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, BISHOP ARTS BUSINESS OWNER OF 14 YEARS AND SOMEONE WHO SERVED ON THE BISHOP ARTS DISTRICT MERCHANT ASSOCIATION BOARD, I UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OPERATING AND A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERED AREA. 
          IF I HAD WITNESSED LATE NIGHT CHAOS OR ONGOING DISRUPTION, I WOULD NOT BE STANDING HERE IN SUPPORT. 
          FORTUNATELY, THAT IS NOT WHAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED. 
          I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT STATEMENTS MADE BY INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD MEMBERS DO NOT REPRESENT MY POSITION AND SHOULD NOT BE TREATED AS UNANIMOUS NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION. 
          NO MEMBERSHIP VOTE WAS TAKEN TO SUPPORT THAT CLAIM. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY. 
          MY NAME IS ANGIE DIXON, 7 1 7 NORTH VERNON AVENUE. 
          WE'D JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING AND JUST ASK EVERYBODY IF THEY COULD JUST STAND UP IN SUPPORT OF LAS SOUL. 
          WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU FOR OFFERING TO SPEAK FOR US AND WE'RE JUST SO GRATEFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, THANK Y'ALL. 
          OKAY, SO THAT COMPLETES OUR, UM, SPEAKERS AND SUPPORT. 
          ARE WE, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN THE HOUSE IN OPPOSITION THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? COME ON DOWN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS SARAH COFFEE AND I'M THE HOMEOWNER AT 1105 WOODLAWN AVENUE. 
          APPROXIMATELY HALF A MILE FROM THESE PROPERTIES IN QUESTION, 
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UM, ATLAS SOUL. 
          AND I WANNA START BY SAYING THAT I TRULY, TRULY VALUE THE CARE AND ATTENTION THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO THE RESTORATION OF THESE PROPERTIES. 
          I AM A HUGE PROPONENT OF, UM, MAINTAINING OUR HISTORIC HOMES AND I THINK THEY'RE A VITAL PART OF THE TAPESTRY THAT MAKES OUR DALLAS NEIGHBORHOODS UNIQUE. 
          WHILE I CANNOT AFFORD TO BE A MEMBER AT LA SOUL, I HAVE BEEN TO A FEW EVENTS AND I DO SEE THE BEAUTY THAT, UM, SHE HAS PUT INTO THOSE PROPERTIES AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          HOWEVER, I DO OPPOSE THIS SPECIFIC USE PERMIT BECAUSE IT WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED AND TIED TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT SHOULD MEAN LIMITED PARAMETERS THAT ARE REGULARLY AND CAREFULLY REVIEWED BY THE CITY FOR COMPLIANCE, NOT AUTOMATICALLY RUBBER STAMPED AND NOT TIED TO THE PROPERTY IN PERPETUITY. 
          WHILE I MAY FIND SOME VALUE IN WHAT THIS OWNER HAS DONE TO RESTORE THESE HOMES AND TO BE THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE SHOULD THIS EXCEPTION BE GRANTED. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, I OPPOSE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT PERSON PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS MARI HIDALGO KING. 
          I LIVE AT 6 1 6 HAYNES AVENUE. 
          UM, TODAY I UH, I HAVE BEEN GIVEN SOME LETTERS FROM NEIGHBORS WHO COULD NOT BE HERE PRESENT THAT ASKED ME TO READ THEM AND I TOLD 'EM I'D BE HAPPY TO WITH MY TIME. 
          UM, OUR NAMES ARE CATARINO AND LORI DURAN. 
          WE HAVE LIVED FOR 48 YEARS AT 8 4 6 WEST CANTY. 
          WE LIVE ON THE SAME BLOCK AS A PROPOSED SUP. 
          WE LIVE ABOUT SIX HOUSES UP NEAR THE CORNER OF TYLER AND CANTY FROM THE LA SOLE SOCIAL CLUB. 
          WE ARE NOT AGAINST THE SOLE SOCIAL CLUB. 
          WE ARE AGAINST THE LOCATION AND THE CHANGE TO THE ZONING. 
          OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE CHANGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE THE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC WE ALREADY EXPERIENCED DUE TO THE ROUNDABOUT THAT HAS BEEN INSTALLED. 
          TRAFFIC NOW IS DIVERTING DOWN OUR STREET TO AVOID THE SLOWDOWN AND OVERFLOW OF TRAFFIC ON TYLER STREET. 
          ALSO, WE ARE NOW SEEING MORE RESIDENTIAL PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF CANTE STREET. 
          THERE IS AN INCREASE OF RESIDENTIAL PARKING ON THE PARK SIDE AND DWELLING SIDE. 
          DUE TO THE FAMILY GROWTH, A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WOULD PROVE OUR POINT. 
          MORE TRAFFIC AND SO-CALLED MODERATE SOCIAL DRINKING MIXED WITH MORE CHILDREN, MORE FAMILY PEDESTRIANS FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHARED NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE INCREASED A HUNDRED FOLD AND IS NOT A GOOD MIX. 
          WE DO NOT WANNA SEE THE CHAOS OF TRAFFIC AND PARKING AND CONCLUSION WARNING, OPEN THE DOOR FOR ONE THEN WHERE DOES IT END? A SECOND LETTER FROM JENNIFER. 
          A GIT OF 6 3 0 WEST CANTY. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS, I'M GONNA JUMP AHEAD. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS AND HOMEOWNER CONCERNS DETAILED IN MY JUNE EIGHT EMAIL TO THE COMMITTEE, WE LEARNED LAST NIGHT THAT LASALLE HAS YET TO DETERMINE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MEMBERS IT WILL ADMIT TO ITS PRIVATE CLUB. 
          SO THE POTENTIAL PARKING AND TRAFFIC BURDENS FOR THE RESIDENTS ON OUR STREET AND THE USERS OF THE PARK ARE UNKNOWN. 
          GRANTING THIS APPLICATION WOULD EFFECTIVELY REWARD AN APPLICANT WHO DISREGARDED APPLICABLE LAW AND NOW SEEKS RETROACTIVE APPROVAL UNDER THE PREMISE THAT IT IS BETTER TO SEEK FORGIVENESS THAN PERMISSION. 
          AND I WORRY THAT IT WILL SIGNAL THAT EXISTING, UH, IT'LL EXISTING ZONING REGULATIONS MAY BE CIRCUMVENTED BY COMMENCING UNDER PERMITTED. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU GET IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I'M GREG FEEZER. 
          I LIVE AT 8 0 6 WOODLAWN AVENUE. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 32 YEARS. 
          I LIVE ABOUT THREE BLOCKS FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION. 
          I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH UH, TAYLOR MADISON A FEW TIMES. 
          SHE IMPRESSED ME AS A VERY WARM, CAPABLE, PASSIONATE PERSON WITH A CLEAR VISION. 
          BUT THE MATTER BEFORE US TODAY IS NOT HER PERSONALITY OR HER MOTIVATIONS. 
          IT'S A ZONING CASE. 
          WE'VE HEARD FROM MANY OF HER, UH, MEMBERS OF HER CLUB ABOUT THE BENEFITS THE CLUB BROUGHT THEM. 
          UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PLACE, BUT AL IS NOT THE ISSUE BEFORE THE COUNCIL. 
          THIS IS A ZONING DECISION. 
          KID SPRINGS, AS YOU'VE HEARD, IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE WANT TO KEEP IT A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I DON'T OPPOSE SAL, I DON'T OPPOSE MS. MADISON, BUT I DO OPPOSE A NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONING IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          HELLO, MY NAME'S ALEX WASHBURN. 
          I LIVE AT 8 0 1 HAYNES AVENUE, ABOUT THREE OR FOUR BLOCKS FROM LASSO. 
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UM, I'M NOT SURPRISED TO SEE SO MUCH SUPPORT, UH, HERE TODAY FOR LASSO. 
          IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SPACE AND ALSO ON ITS FOUR BRAND INSTAGRAM ACCOUNTS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PAPER PROVIDED TO YOU EARLIER BY LILIANA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SHE HAS APPROXIMATELY 73,000 INSTAGRAM FOLLOWERS, WHICH IS I THINK WHY SOME IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE CONCERNED THAT THERE IS NOT A STATED CAP FOR MEMBERSHIP AT LASSO. 
          I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE ONE OF MY PRIMARY CONCERNS IS THE EROSION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN ANY COMMUNITY. 
          LISO REPRESENTS TWO HOMES OFF THE MARKET THAT PEOPLE CANNOT LIVE IN WITH A ZONING CHANGE IF THE SUP IS APPROVED. 
          ALSO, THE SOLE BRAND HAS A AIRBNB IN KESSLER PARKWAY. 
          ALSO IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU WERE PROVIDED THAT OPENED, UM, FOR RESIDENT OR FOR USAGE, I BELIEVE IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, A TWO NIGHT STAY THERE WILL COST YOU $1,600 IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, AND THAT HOME IS VALUED AT ABOUT $1.2 MILLION, WHICH IS TO SAY THIS IS A SCALED ENTERPRISE. 
          IT MIGHT BE A WELLNESS FACILITY, BUT IT IS SCALED AND IT IS GROWING. 
          MY SECOND POINT THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UM, WITH THIS PLACE IS THAT THEY HAVE NOT HAD PROPER PROCEDURE IN PLACE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AS THEY'VE BEEN OPEN AS A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE, WHETHER THEY WANT TO CALL THEMSELVES A BUSINESS OR NOT. 
          ON PAGE THREE OF THE DOCUMENT YOU WERE PROVIDED, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN 2022 AND 2023, THEY OPENED UP THE SOLE HOUSE AND THE CHATEAU, UM, NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER, WHICH WAS THE ART DECO RESIDENCE THAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO. 
          THAT HAS ALSO BEEN RECORDED IN D MAGAZINE SEVERAL TIMES. 
          AND SO HERE WE ARE MORE THAN FOUR YEARS LATER, STILL NO U PS STILL NO ZONING PERMISSION AND ONLY RECENTLY HAVE THEY STOPPED TAKING FUNDS FOR THIS MEMBERSHIP. 
          SO, AND AGAIN, UM, SCALED EROSION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD A PROBLEM. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PROBLEM. 
          AND THERE WE GO. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION IN PERSON? COME ON DOWN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS DOMINIQUE AND I HAVE LIVED AT SIX 15 HA AVENUE, UH, FOR 30 YEARS. 
          I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED REZONING FOR THE AREA ACROSS KIDS SPRINGS. 
          IT. 
          THE PARK IS ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE PUBLIC SPACES IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT BELONGS TO EVERYONE, FAMILIES, CHILDREN, SENIORS, AND RESIDENTS OF ALL INCOME LEVELS. 
          ANY REZONING REQUEST NEAR SUCH AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC ASSET SHOULD BE EVALUATED NOT ONLY FOR ITS IMPACT ON LAND USE, BUT FOR ITS IMPACT ON THE CHARACTER OF AND ACCESSIBILITY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          MY FOLLOWING CONCERNS ARE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY. 
          INCREASED DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY WILL BRING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, SORRY, VEHICLE TRAFFIC TO STREETS THAT ALREADY ARE USED BY THE PEDESTRIAN CYCLISTS AND NEARBY RESIDENTS. 
          IT SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED AS SAFE PUBLIC ASSET ACCESS TO THE PARK AND SURROUNDING HOMES, NOT INCREASING THE CONGESTION THERE. 
          SECONDLY, THE PROPOSED REZONING RISK. 
          INTRODUCING A SCALE AND INTENSITY OF ITS USE THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          APPROVING EXCEPTIONS HERE COULD SET A PRECEDENT FOR SIMILAR REQUESTS IN THE FUTURE, GRADUALLY CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE WORKED HARD TO PRESERVE IT. 
          FINALLY, I AM CONCERNED THAT THIS IS A PAID MEMBERSHIP ORIENTED BUSINESS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM ONE OF OUR MOST CHERISHED PUBLIC PARKS. 
          KID SPRINGS IS AN INCLUSIVE PUBLIC SPACE THAT WELCOMES EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF INCOME. 
          A MEMBERSHIP THAT'S PRIVATE MODEL CAN CREATE A STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN A PUBLIC RESOURCE AND AN EXCLUSIVE FEE-BASED DESTINATION. 
          WHILE PRIVATE BUSINESSES HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO OPERATE, THE CITY SHOULD CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER GRANTING SPECIAL ZONING ACCOMMODATIONS FOR A MEMBERSHIP BASED USES THE SERVES INTERESTS OF THE WIDER COMMUNITY AND ALIGNS WITH THE INCLUSIVE SPIRIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I SUPPORT THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT THAT RESPECTS EXISTED ZONING, PROTECTS PUBLIC SPACES AND PRIORIT COMMUNITY NEEDS. 
          FOR THESE REASONS, I URGE YOU TO DENY THE ZONING REQUEST. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS LAURA PALMER. 
          I RESIDE AT NINE 11 NORTH MADISON AVENUE. 
          I'M A RESIDENT AND A PROPERTY OWNER IN PLAN DEVELOPMENT ONE 60, WHICH THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED. 
          I SHOULD EXPLAIN. 
          PD ONE 60 WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1982 BECAUSE THIS AREA HAD BEEN DIS UH, IT, IT HAD BEEN UP ZONED TO THE POINT WHERE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WAS NOT ALLOWED IN THAT AREA. 
          IF A SINGLE FAMILY 
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HOME WAS TORN DOWN, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME COULD NOT BE REBUILT ON THAT LAND. 
          PD ONE 60 WAS PUT INTO PLACE TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING HOUSES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE THERE. 
          SINCE THEN, IN 2010 AND IN 2015, WE'VE HAD ENCROACHMENTS ON PD ONE 60. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE BISHOP DAVIS REZONING AND THE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY REZONING THAT HAS STRIPPED AND IT PUT IN DENSITY AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT WERE NOT ALLOWED THERE BEFORE THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY, I VIEW AS A SIMILAR EROSION OF PD ONE 60. 
          I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A PRIVATE REC CENTER UNDER THE DEFINITION IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          THAT DEFINITION SAYS AREA PROVIDING PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES SUCH AS PLAYGROUNDS, PARKS, SWIMMING POOLS, AND PLAY FIELDS. 
          IT DOES NOT SAY A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A BASKETBALL HOOP. 
          THAT'S YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          HOW MANY MINUTES IS THE PRESENTATION TODAY? IT'S TWO MINUTES. 
          YES. 
          TWO MINUTES. 
          UM, MY NAME IS JOSEPH BECK. 
          I'M 8 0 8 NORTHAMPTON ROAD. 
          UH, THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR AN EVENT ORIENTED USE. 
          UM, KID SPRINGS PARK IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. 
          IT ALREADY HAS MEETING EVENTS AND IT RECENTLY RENOVATED, UH, UH, AQUATIC CENTER. 
          AUTOMATIC RENEWAL PROVISION IS ABSURD, AND I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT AN SU P'S SUPPOSED TO REQUIRE OVERSIGHT. 
          THE GOVERNMENT'S FAILURE TO REVIEW BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO BUSY OR POORLY MANAGED, TURNS GOVERNMENT FAILURE INTO APPROVAL. 
          DALLAS IS LOSING RESIDENTS, WHILE MANY PEOPLE MOVING FROM THIS REGION ARE CHOOSING SURROUNDING CITIES, THEY SEE CLEANER STREETS, BETTER SERVICES, SAFER NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, US PLANT COMMISSIONERS HAVE ENORMOUS INFLUENCE OVER WHILE DALLAS BECOMES, FRANKLY, SOME OF WHAT THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN. 
          APPROV HAS BEEN TERRIBLE FOR THE LONG TERM LIVABILITY. 
          DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE. 
          SO, WHO RAISES RAISES THE BEST BASIC QUESTION OF WHO IS TRULY REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE. 
          WHERE IS THE WATCHDOG? UM, SUP IS UNNECESSARY. 
          UM, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS MATTER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION HEARING? UH OH. 
          YES. 
          THERE'S ONLY ONE LEFT ONLINE. 
          MR. JOSHUA KING. 
          IS HE AVAILABLE PERSON? OKAY. 
          WE DON'T SEE HIM ONLINE. 
          YES. 
          CAN WE GET A, UM, UM, THE APPLICANT GETS THE REBUTTAL. 
          LADY, JENNIFER. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME CLARIFICATIONS. 
          UH, PLEASE. 
          UM, THIS IS NOT AN A AND B AND BE RENTAL FACILITY. 
          THIS IS NOT AN EVENT RENTAL FACILITY. 
          UM, IT IS A PRIVATE REC CENTER. 
          UM, I MET WITH STAFF EXTENSIVELY IN THE FALL AND WENT OVER THE LAND USE AND GOT CONFIRMATION, UM, THAT IT'S BASICALLY A COUNTRY CLUB WITHOUT THE REQUIRED GOLF COURSE. 
          UM, MS. MADISON PURCHASED BOTH HOMES AND LIVED IN BOTH HOMES. 
          THIS WAS NOT A PLANNED BUSINESS SCHEME. 
          THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY EVOLVED IN HER INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOUL. 
          UM, THE STRUCTURES ARE STILL SINGLE FAMILY. 
          THE FLOOR PLANS ARE SINGLE FAMILY. 
          THE YOGA STUDIO WAS THE CONVERTED GARAGE. 
          UM, THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS IS SORT OF IRRELEVANT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN A CONVERTED GARAGE. 
          UM, THIS HELPS CONTROL THE SCALE AND INTENSITY OF THE USE, UM, AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE MEMBERSHIP MODEL. 
          UM, SHE HAS CONTROL OVER HOW MANY MEMBERS, HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTEND CLASSES, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PRESENT. 
          UM, I ALSO BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT THE 200 FOOT AUTOMATIC RENEWAL NOTICE AREA IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE NOISE, THE TRAFFIC. 
          UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE TOOL FOR THIS OR RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU READY FOR A MOTION? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 3 2, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, SUBJECT TO A REVISED SITE PLAN THAT CONFIRMS THE CURRENT 
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LOT COVERAGE. 
          IS THERE A TIME FRAME? THE TIME PERIOD. 
          OH, LEAVING THE, THE AS DIRECTED BY STAFF. 
          SO THE SUP LIMIT AS INCLUDED IN THE ONE YEAR WITH A THREE YEAR RENEWAL, ONE YEAR, THREE YEAR AUTO RENEWAL. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND COMMISSIONER SERRATO, WAS THAT A SECOND? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UM, ACCEPT STAFF'S APPROVAL. 
          AND A SECOND, UM, CAN YOU HAVE SOME DISCUSSION? YES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          UM, CLEARLY THIS IS A CASE, MR. CHAIR. 
          THIS IS ENGENDERED A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST AND A GREAT DEAL OF PASSION, AS HAVE MANY CASES FROM DISTRICT ONE, WHICH I AM VERY PROUD TO REPRESENT. 
          UH, I SPENT A GOOD DEAL OF TIME VISITING WITH, UH, VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          IN FACT, AT A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THIS PAST WEEK WHERE WE HAD, UH, 50 CONCERNED NEIGHBORS IN A ROOM THAT HELD ABOUT 30 PEOPLE COMFORTABLY. 
          AND, UH, IN THAT MEETING, WE HEARD, UH, BOTH PASSIONATE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, THOSE IN FAVOR, AND THOSE OPPOSED JUST AS WE HAVE HEARD TODAY. 
          UH, BUT AS I WEIGHED WHAT I HAD HEARD, WHAT I THINK STOOD OUT TO ME PARTICULARLY WAS THAT, UM, THE NEIGHBORS IN IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY TO THIS PROPERTY HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY IN FAVOR OF IT. 
          UH, IF WE LOOK AT THE NOTICES, THERE WERE 20 RES REPLIES TO THE NOTICE, 16 OF WHICH WERE FAVORABLE, FOUR OF WHICH WERE NEGATIVE. 
          UH, IF WE LOOK AT THE 700 BLOCK OF CANTY, IT IS A, UM, IT HAS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT USES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, DUPLEXES, MULTI-FAMILY, AND I, I HAVE COME TO BELIEVE THAT THIS USE IS A USE THAT FITS INTO THE VIBRANT, DIVERSE AREA THAT KIDS BRINGS. 
          SPECIFICALLY IN OAK CLIFF MORE BROADLY IS, UH, TO THE ISSUE. 
          THE SUP, UH, I BELIEVE IT IS A NARROWLY DRAFTED SUP, UH, AND THAT THE ONE YEAR FOLLOWED BY THE THREE YEAR AUTO RENEWAL IS IN FACT A SUFFICIENT CHECK ON THE OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS TO ENSURE THAT THINGS ARE MET. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, I RESPECTFULLY ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, YES. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER CO, UH, COX, LIKE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I'VE, I'VE RECEIVED A GREAT DEAL OF, OF EMAIL REGARDING THIS CASE. 
          AND ALTHOUGH THE SUPPORT OF THIS CASE WAS, WAS OVERWHELMING, UH, I'VE ALSO DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH AND, AND MOST OF THE SUPPORT ARE NOT FROM PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION THAT I RECEIVED AND RESEARCHING THOSE, I'M FINDING THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE INDEED IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO, HAVING RESEARCHED LASALLE'S HISTORY AT THIS LOCATION, I FOUND THAT IT FOLLOWS A CLEAR, DOCUMENTED TIMELINE. 
          IT BEGAN AS AN INFORMAL GATHERINGS IN A PRIVATE HOME. 
          IT EVOLVED INTO A MEMBERSHIP BASED SOCIAL CLUB, EXPANDED TO A SECOND HOME, AND ULTIMATELY TRIGGERED CITY OF DALLAS ENFORCEMENT FOR OPERATING COMMERCIAL EVENT USES IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. 
          ON MARCH 26TH, 2026, THE CITY'S ENFORCEMENT ACTION BEGAN AND APPEARS TO BE THE ONLY REASON WE'RE HEARING THIS CASE TODAY. 
          THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ISSUED FORMAL NOTICES TO THE OWNERS OF BOTH LAAL AND CHATEAU LAAL, FINDING THEM IN VIOLATION OF MULTIPLE SECTIONS OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE. 
          UH, FOR EXAMPLE, USING PROPERTY FOR PURPOSES NOT PERMITTED BY ZONING, CHANGING USE WITHOUT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OCCUPYING USING LAND WITHOUT A CO AND UN PERMITTED WORK IN A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. 
          THE CITY ORDERED BOTH PROPERTIES TO CEASE OPERATIONS IMMEDIATELY. 
          I INTEND TO OPPOSE THE MOTION TO APPROVE AN SUP FOR A PRIVATE RECREATION CLUB OR, OR AREA ON PROPERTY ZONE. 
          UH, UH, TRACK ONE A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE 60 BASED ON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS REQUIRED BY THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AS REQUIRED BY 51 A DASH FOUR DASH 2191 BECAUSE THE INTENSITY FREQUENCY OF ACTIVITY AND MEMBERSHIP BASED PROGRAMMING ARE INCONSISTENT WITH SINGLE FAMILY CHARACTER OF PD ONE 60, THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC WELFARE AND INJUR, UH, TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES CONTRARY TO 51 A DASH FOUR DASH 2 92 DUE TO AN ANTICIPATED IMPACTS RELATED TO TRAFFIC. 
          AS WE'VE HEARD PARKING DEMAND, AS WE'VE HEARD NOISE AS WE'VE HEARD, AND THE CONCENTRATION OF NON-RESIDENTIAL ACTIVITY ON NARROW RESIDENTIAL STREETS, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT DEMONSTRATED 
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THAT THIS USE CAN BE OPERATED IN A MANNER THAT PROTECTS ADJACENT PROPERTIES AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE. 
          GIVEN THE SITE'S PROXIMITY TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON ALL SIDES, AND THE HISTORY OF UNPERMITTED OPERATIONS AT THIS LOCATION, THE CONDITIONS PROPOSED ARE INSUFFICIENT TO MITIGATE ADVERSE IMPACTS, FAILING TO SATISFY THE CODE BECAUSE THE OPERATIONAL CHARACTERISTICS OF A PRIVATE RECREATION CLUB MEMBERSHIP EVENTS OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AND THE RECURRING PROGRAMMING CANNOT BE ADEQUATELY BUFFERED WITHIN THE SCALE AND LAYOUT OF PD ONE 60. 
          FOR THESE REASONS AND BASED ON THE CRITERIA AND 51 A DASH FOUR DASH TWO 19, I URGE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO JOIN ME IN DENYING THIS REQUEST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, I KNOW THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE ZONING DECISIONS BASED ON STRICTLY THE LAND USE, AND ANYBODY WHO COMES TO THESE MEETINGS RECOGNIZES THAT THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE. 
          THE APPLICANT IS IMPORTANT. 
          UM, I FIND THIS TO BE A DIFFICULT CASE BECAUSE ON THE ONE HAND, HAVING A PRIVATE COUNTRY CLUB LIKE THING IN A COMMUNITY IS SOMETHING WE ALLOW IN OTHER PLACES. 
          ON THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE AN APPLICANT WHO IS ONLY HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING FORCED TO. 
          SHE HAS A HISTORY OF NOT COMPLYING WITH OUR CODE. 
          SHE HAS A HISTORY OF NOT COMPLYING WITH THE STATE'S OBLIGATIONS FOR E EVEN OWN A BUSINESS. 
          SHE SITS TODAY AS HAVING HER ABILITY TO DO BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FORFEITED. 
          SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES AND ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT KID SPRINGS IS FREQUENTLY THE TARGET OF ENCROACHMENT, UM, I, I JUST DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION. 
          I DON'T THINK IT COMPLIES WITH, UM, THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE CODE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ASPECTS OF THAT IS THAT THIS HAS TO CONFORM IN ALL OTHER RESPECTS TO ALL ZONING REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS, AND SHE DOESN'T. 
          SO IF YOU'VE GOT AN APPLICANT WHO REGULARLY THUMBS HER NOSE AT OUR SYSTEMS AND THEN WANTS TO HAVE AN SUP, WHAT IS TO WHAT ASSURANCE DO WE HAVE AT ALL THAT SHE'S GONNA OPERATE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE SUPI? I JUST, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A COMMERCIAL OPERATOR COMING IN WITH TWO LOTS AND SAYING, I WANT TO DO THIS, I DON'T THINK WE'D BE GIVING IT THE SAME CONSIDERATION. 
          FRANKLY, I THINK IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, WE WOULDN'T BE GIVING IT CONSIDERATION. 
          SO AS MUCH AS I TRY TO FOLLOW MY FEDERAL COMMISSIONER'S RECOMMENDATIONS IN THEIR OWN DISTRICT, I THINK THIS ONE'S VERY PROBLEMATIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. 
          UM, I'VE SERVED ON THE CPC FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, AND THIS CASE HAS REALLY MADE ME THINK A LOT ABOUT WHY WE'RE HERE, WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS BODY IS. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE AN ADVISORY GROUP. 
          WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON LAND USE, UH, IN THAT ROLE. 
          WE HELP TO ENFORCE, WE HELP TO INTERPRET AND SOMETIMES EVOLVE OUR ORDINANCES AND OUR LAND USE POLICIES. 
          UM, BUT THESE ORDINANCES AND POLICIES, UM, THEY ARE, UH, AN INSTRUMENT, SOMETIMES A VERY BLUNT INSTRUMENT, UM, TOWARDS LAND USE. 
          AND, UM, THEY'RE A MEANS TO AN END, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE END IN AND OF ITSELF. 
          THE GOAL OF OUR WORK HERE, I BELIEVE, IS A VIBRANT, HEALTHY COMMUNITY. 
          UM, THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DO. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OUR ORDINANCES AND OUR POLICIES. 
          UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE'RE NOT CREATING A VIBRANT, HEALTHY CITY AND A COMMUNITY THAT'S GOOD FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, FOR INSTITUTIONS, FOR, UM, UH, ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN, UH, OF OUR CITY, THEN, THEN WE'RE REALLY FAILING AS A, AS A CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          UM, I BELIEVE OUR GOAL IS NOT THE ENFORCEMENT OF STRICT AND RIGID SEPARATION OF USES AT ALL COSTS. 
          UM, I KNOW THERE ARE FOLKS THAT THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO. 
          UM, THAT'S NOT THE WAY I APPROACH THIS JOB. 
          UM, SO, UH, 
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FROM WHAT I CAN SEE, UH, SAL HAS CREATED, UM, JUST THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT CREATED IN THIS CITY, UM, WHERE PEOPLE, UH, ARE NOT, UM, CONSIGNED TO LIVING LONELY LIVES IN THEIR HOMES, BUT THEY'RE ACT ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO AND SOMEWHERE TO, TO MEET THEIR NEIGHBORS AND TO, UM, BUILD COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S WITH FOLKS ONE BLOCK OVER OR A MILE OVER, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT REALLY MATTERS. 
          UM, SO CLEARLY I'M GONNA BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION BECAUSE I THINK, UM, THE TOOL OF THE SUP IS, IS THE RIGHT TOOL HERE. 
          UM, THIS IS NOT A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE. 
          THIS IS, UH, EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS. 
          IT IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT HAS VERY STRICT OPERATING RULES AND STRICT TERM, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR USE IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. 
          SO, UM, I'M, I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE, THE MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER SIMS HAS MADE AND APPRECIATE HIS HARD WORK ON THIS AND APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING DOWN AND TALKING TO US TODAY. 
          AND I HOPE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN ME IN SUPPORT OF THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? YES, COMMISSIONER SERRATO. 
          OKAY. 
          I REALIZE I SECONDED THE MOTION, UM, BUT AFTER HEARING SOME OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SPEAK, UM, I AM STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH THE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS COMMISSIONER SIMS, UM, JUST BECAUSE I FEEL THERE'S A NEED TO, UM, SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THIS EFFORT TO CREATE COMMUNITY IN OAK CLIFF, BUT ALSO WITH SOME ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, IN THAT MIX. 
          SO I WONDER IF WE CAN ADJUST THE MOTION OR MAKE A NEW MOTION THAT WOULD NOT INCLUDE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOUR ONE YEAR. 
          UM, BUT HOLDING, UM, THE APPLICANT ACCOUNTABLE AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE COMING BEFORE THIS BODY IN A YEAR AND SEEING IF THEY'RE UPHOLDING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, UM, WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THEIR, OF THEIR PLAN. 
          I'LL GET SOME PROCEDURE ON THAT. 
          YES, COMMISSIONER? I, YEAH, I WILL ACCEPT THE, UH, THE FRIENDLY, FRIENDLY TO REMOVE AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, SO, GOTCHA. 
          SO IT WILL READ. 
          SO THE MOTION WOULD NOW READ THAT, UH, THAT WE WOULD, LEMME GET IT BACK, HOLD ON. 
          UH, THAT WE WOULD APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, SUBJECT REVISED TYPE PLAN THAT CONFORMS THE CURRENT LOCK COVERAGE AND WITH A, UH, PERIOD FOR ONE YEAR WITHOUT AUTOMATIC RENEWAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND SINCE YOU ACCEPTED, THERE'S NO NEED TO VOTE IT IN THE NEW MOTION, UM, HOLDS, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AROUND THAT MOTION? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. 
          OH, I, I SHARE MANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, KIND OF HOW WE GOT TO TODAY, AND THAT THERE ARE POTENTIAL, UM, ONGOING ISSUES WITH THE PROPERTY, NOT NECESSARILY, UM, CLEARLY YOU HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT IN THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS BROADER, BUT I THINK THE CONCERNS THAT ARE RAISED BY THOSE WHO ARE IN OPPOSITION ARE VALID. 
          AND THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL GAVE ME GREAT PAUSE. 
          I WILL BE VERY CLEAR. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT ADJUSTMENT AND BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT GOES A SIGNIFICANT WAY ON TRYING TO STRIKE THE BALANCE BETWEEN ALLOWING FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY SERVING USES, UM, BUT STILL PROVIDING THAT ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, FOR THOSE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW ONGOING OPERATIONS MAY EVOLVE. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE ADJUSTMENT IN THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. 
          UM, WHILE I THINK THAT REMOVING THE AUTO REMOVALS IS A, A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT, I'M STILL NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION BECAUSE, UM, I, I DON'T THINK THIS IS AN A, I DON'T HAVE ANY FAITH IN THIS APPLICANT THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE A BUSINESS THAT FOLLOWS THE RULES. 
          THERE HAS BEEN A CLEAR PATTERN OF RULE BREAKING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          I DON'T THINK THE ARGUMENT THAT IMPROVING THE PROPERTIES IS, YOU KNOW, JUSTIFICATION FOR INTRODUCING A BUSINESS, A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE INTO SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS APPROPRIATE. 
          AND WHILE I'VE, I'VE HEARD MANY OF THE SPEAKERS SAY THIS ISN'T A BUSINESS, IT, IT CLEARLY IS WHEN YOU CHARGE FOR MEMBERSHIPS AND FOR EVENTS, UM, IT IS A BUSINESS. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOES PASS AND THERE'S A ONE YEAR SUP THAT GIVES ME, YOU KNOW, SOME COMFORT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE SCRUTINY OF THIS. 
          I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER KINGSTON THAT I DON'T THINK THIS USE EVEN FITS EXACTLY UNDER THE CODE, UNDER THIS LAND USE. 
          UM, SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER AND I, I GUESS I'LL SPEAK, UM, BRIEFLY. 
          COMMISSIONER? OH, COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. 
          YOU NOPE, IT WASN'T, I TURNED MY LIGHT OFF. 
          YOU WANT TO SPEAK OR NOT? IS IT MY TURN? OR YOUR TURN? YES, IT'S YOUR TURN. 
          YOU GO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE ALL MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S, UM, 
          [03:40:01]
COMMENTS AND SO FORTH, BUT I HAVE A TENDENCY TO, UH, REALLY HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS A BUSINESS OPERATING IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND IT'S REALLY NOT SO MUCH FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NEIGHBORS AS IT IS FOR PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE. 
          AND, AND THAT AGAIN, MAKES THE BUSINESS EVEN MORE ACCESSIBLE TO ME IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO I AGREE WITH SEVERAL OTHER POINTS, BUT I THINK THAT ONE'S PROBABLY ONE OF MY REAL BASIC ONES AND, UH, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? UH, I'LL GO. 
          UM, SO FIRST THANK YOU, UM, FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAK. 
          UH, WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          TODAY I'M SERVING AS CHAIR AND AS CHAIR I GET TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE, NOT JUST ONE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, LADIES, YOUR VULNERABILITY TODAY AND YOUR ABILITY TO EXPRESS YOUR EMOTIONS IN WHAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH IS, IS SEEN AND HEARD, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, THIRD SPACES ARE NEEDED IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, THIRD SPACES, UM, EXIST THAT AREN'T REGULATED AREN'T WHAT IT IS, BUT GRANDMA'S PORCH, THAT LADY ACROSS THE STREET'S HOUSE, RIGHT? THEY, THEY'RE THERE AND THEY EXIST. 
          UM, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF FOLLOWING REGULATIONS. 
          UM, I'VE HAD MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY COME BEFORE THIS BODY, UM, WITH REGULATIONS THAT WERE BROKEN BY OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THEIR BUSINESS AND WERE DENIED. 
          UM, SUVS, UM, IF THIS IS APPROVED OR NOT, GETTING YOUR PAPERWORK TOGETHER, SHOWING ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT IN GETTING THIS APPROVED. 
          UM, AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, I DO, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT ACCESSIBILITY, UM, EQUITY, UM, THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE CLUB MEMBERS, RIGHT? AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, BUT UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. 
          UM, WHETHER I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION OR NOT, I'M STILL UP IN THE AIR, BUT, UM, WANTED TO GET THAT OUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          UM, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? SECOND ROUND? YES. 
          IF I COULD REQUEST A ROLL CALL VOTE WHEN WE DO TAKE A VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          READY VOTE. 
          GO. 
          DISTRICT ONE? YES. 
          DISTRICT TWO? YES. 
          DISTRICT THREE COME BACK? NO. 
          UM, YES. 
          DISTRICT FOUR. 
          DISTRICT FIVE? YES. 
          DISTRICT SIX? NO. 
          DISTRICT SEVEN, DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          DISTRICT NINE. 
          YES. 
          DATE? DID HE SAY YES? DISTRICT 10? YES. 
          DISTRICT 11? NO. 
          DISTRICT 12? NO. 
          DISTRICT 13? YES. 
          DISTRICT 14. 
          UH, I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT IT. 
          NO. 
          NO. 
          AND PLEASE. 
          15. 
          MOTION? YES. 
          THIS HAVE IT. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THROUGH NEXT COUNCIL? I DON'T THINK SO EITHER. 
          JACK, YOU NEED TALK TOGETHER? YES. 
          DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS. 
          UP NEXT. 
          LET'S GET HER DONE. 
          I CAN'T, I CAN'T. 
           I DIDN'T HEAR AND NOW HE LEFT. 
          MS. LOPEZ, COULD YOU GIVE US A VOTE COUNT PLEASE. 
          I GUESS NOT. 
          5, 4, 7, 4. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          [03:46:17]
READY? OKAY, LET'S, LET'S ROLL. 
          UM, YOU GUYS, WE HAVE A TIGHT COUNT, UM, SO WE CAN GO TO THE RESTROOM FIRST. 
          WE'LL COME BACK AT THREE 11. 
          ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER, UM, KUNTZ, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME AND YOU'RE AVAILABLE, CAN YOU COME ON, UM, CAMERA SO WE CAN MEET CORA? YEAH. 
          I THOUGHT WE WERE ON BREAK. 
          I'M HERE. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO GET KICKED BACK OFF, UM, LEADING WITH OUR, UM, DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT. 
          MR. MICHAEL WADE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS 
          [22. 26-2033A Consideration of amending Section 51A-13.306 of the Dallas City Code to list “Tattoo and body piercing” as an example of permitted personal service uses instead of as an example of prohibited personal service uses in form-based zoning districts.]
IS ITEM 22 CONSIDERATION OF AMENDING SECTION 51, A 13.306 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE TO LIST TATTOO AND BODY PIERCING AS AN EXAMPLE OF PERMITTED PERSONAL SERVICE USES. 
          INSTEAD OF AS AN EXAMPLE OF PROHIBITED PERSONAL SERVICE USES IN FORM-BASED ZONING DISTRICTS, ZAC RECOMMENDATION WAS APPROVAL. 
          PERFECT. 
          CAN WE GET A, UM, WHAT DO YOU GOT IT? A MOTION. 
          OH, ANY SPEAKERS, ANY PUBLIC SPEAKERS ON THIS MATTER? COME ON DOWN. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT. 
          NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          COME ON DOWN. 
          THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK. 
          AND ARE YOU IN FAVOR? OPPOSITION. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          YOU ARE, GO AHEAD. 
          YOU ARE READY? YEP. 
          BUT GO. 
          KEEP TALKING. 
          HIT THE GREEN BUTTON ON ON, HIT THE GREEN BUTTON IN FRONT. 
          JUST GOT 15 SECONDS. 
          LOOK AT THERE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS SATCHEL VICTORY. 
          I'M A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR ASSOCIATE, UH, FORMER EDUCATOR OF NINE YEARS AT BOOKER T WASHINGTON HIGH SCHOOL FOR THE BORN OF VISUAL ARTS. 
          UH, LONG NAME THE OWNER OF, UH, VICTORY MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND VICTORY MIND LAB AND CURRENTLY ALSO CO-OWNER OF PEGASUS TATTOO AND WELLNESS, UH, THAT I CO-OWN WITH MY PARTNER WHO IS HERE IS TATTOO AND WELLNESS ON THE THERAPIST. 
          AND STEPHANIE HERE IS THE PROFESSIONAL TATTOO ARTIST. 
          UH, STEPHANIE'S AL UH, SHE'S SUPPOSED TO SPEAK FIRST, UH, BUT WE A LITTLE PANIC HERE. 
          UM, SO SHE'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF PEGASUS TATTOO STUDIO, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, IT'S LONGSTANDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, I WANNA BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS THAT HAVE BROUGHT THIS AMENDMENT HERE. 
          UH, THE PROPERTY THAT INITIATED THIS ZONING AMENDMENT PROCESS IS THE SAME PROPERTY WHERE I CURRENTLY OPERATE MY COUNSELING AND COACHING BUSINESSES. 
          WHEN THE AREA WAS REZONED IN 2024, TATTOOING BECAME PROHIBITED PERSONAL SERVICE USE WITHIN THE WAWA MIX USE THREE DISTRICT AS A RESULT. 
          ALTHOUGH OUR COUNSELING AND COACHING BUSINESSES WERE PERMITTED TO RELOCATE INTO THE NEW SPACE, TATTOOING WAS NOT. 
          THIS ISSUE AROSE BECAUSE A ZONING CHANGE CREATED A CATEGORICAL PROHIBITION ON A USE THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY OPERATED SUCCESSFULLY IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA. 
          I ALSO BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN ZONING REGULATION AND THE EXISTING REGULATORY FRAMEWORK GOVERNING TATTOO BUSINESSES. 
          UH, TATTOO STUDIOS ARE ALREADY LICENSED, INSPECTED AND REGULATED BUSINESSES. 
          STATE LAW GOVERNED SANITATION, STERILIZATION, RECORD KEEPING, CLIENT PROTECTION AND AGE VERIFICATION REQUIREMENTS CONCERNS REGARDING HEALTH AND SAFETY ARE ADDRESSED THROUGH THAT EXISTING REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. 
          THE ISSUE BEFORE THE COMMISSION IS NOT WHETHER TATTOOING SHOULD BE REGULATED, IT ALREADY IS. 
          THE ISSUE IS WHETHER TATTOO STUDIO SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE CATEGORICALLY PROHIBITED IN WELCOME EXCUSE THREE. 
          DESPITE OPERATING AS LEGITIMATE REGULATED PERSONAL SERVICES BUSINESSES, UH, I ALSO NOTE THAT THE CURRENT CODE PERMITS ME TO OPERATE, UH, COUNSELING AND COACHING SERVICES FROM THIS PROPERTY WHILE PROHIBITING TATTOO SERVICES. 
          ALL THREE ARE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE BUSINESSES SERVING MEMBERS OF THE SAME COMMUNITY. 
          THE DISTINCTION REFLECTS AN OUTDATED CLASSIFICATION 
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RATHER THAN THE OPERATIONAL REALITIES OF MODERN TATTOO BUSINESSES. 
          THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT REMOVE REGULATION. 
          IT SIMPLY REMOVES THE CATEGORICAL PROHIBITION AND ALIGNS THE CODE WITH THE REALITIES OF MODERN TATTOO BUSINESSES WHILE PRESERVING THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REGULATE HEALTH, SAFETY AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY THROUGH EXISTING PROCESSES. 
          FOR THOSE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          STEPHANIE, CAN WE GET TWO MINUTES OR THREE MINUTES? THREE MINUTES. 
          GOOD. 
          UH, YOU HEARD IS VERY GOOD. 
          MY NAME IS STEPHANIE ADELINA, TWO 40 SOUTH SHORE DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 6. 
          AND UM, I'M HERE IN SUPPORT. 
          SO I'M A DALLAS NATIVE, BORN AND RAISED IN OAK CLIFF, UM, AND I'M THE TATTOO PROFESSIONAL AND COER OF PEGASUS TATTOO AND WELLNESS. 
          PEGASUS IS A BUSINESS THAT COMBINES PROFESSIONAL TATTOOING WITH COUNSELING, COACHING AND WELLNESS SERVICES UNDER ONE ROOF. 
          AND I HAVE OPERATED IN THE ELM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 2017, ALMOST 10 YEARS. 
          ONE REASON I WANNA SPEAK TODAY IS BECAUSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TATTOOING ARE OFTEN INFLUENCED BY PERCEPTIONS THAT NO LONGER REFLECT THE REALITY OF MODERN TATTOO BUSINESSES OVER SO MANY YEARS. 
          UM, I HAVE BUILT RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES AND CLIENTS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. 
          TODAY'S TATTOO STUDIOS ARE PROFESSIONAL, REGULATED, PEOPLE-CENTERED BUSINESSES. 
          MANY OF MY CLIENTS COME SEEKING ARTISTIC EXPRESSION, COMMEMORATION, HEALING, AND A RENEWED SENSE OF AGENCY FOLLOWING MAJOR LIFE EXPERIENCES. 
          SOME ARE BREAST CANCER SURVIVORS, INDIVIDUALS PROCESSING GRIEF OR SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT SEEKING TO RECLAIM SENSE OF OWNERSHIP AND AGENCY OVER THEIR BODIES. 
          THUS THE VERY NEW COMBINED STRUCTURE OF POTENTIALLY THERAPY AND WELLNESS IN ONE SPACE. 
          UM, AND TATTOOING. 
          SO AT PEGASUS WE'VE ALSO USED TATTOOING AS A WAY TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY ALMOST EXACTLY A YEAR AGO WE RAISED MORE THAN $3,000 IN A SINGLE DAY THROUGH A TATTOO FUNDRAISER FOR OUR COMMUNITY CARE FUND, WHICH HELPS PROVIDE FREE AND LOW COST MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE HAVE ACCESS TO CARE. 
          FOR YEARS, PEGASUS HAS OPERATED SUCCESSFULLY IN THIS AREA UNDER THE PREVIOUS ZONING REGULATIONS. 
          THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU TODAY DID NOT ARISE BECAUSE TATTOOING BECAME INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT ROSE BECAUSE ZONING CLASSIFICATION CHANGED. 
          IT'S NOT A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          WE HAVE ALREADY DEMONSTRATED THAT TATTOO STUDIOS CAN OPERATE SUCCESSFULLY WHEN THESE TYPES OF MIXED USE ENVIRONMENTS. 
          I ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT WHILE THIS PROCESS HAS MOVED FORWARD, WE HAVE RESPECTED THE CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS AND HAVE NOT OPERATED TATTOOING SERVICES FROM THE PROPERTY WHILE AWAITING THE DECISION. 
          WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE ARE SEEKING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THROUGH THE PROPER PUBLIC PROCESS. 
          AND BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO OPERATE WITH TATTOOING, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO RAISE MONEY FOR OUR COMMUNITY CARE FUND, WHICH IS ALMOST COMPLETELY EMPTY. 
          AND THOSE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO COME TO CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE. 
          SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE THAT'S SPEAK HERE OR ONLINE? OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE, CAN WE GET A MOTION SELECT? YES. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          IN THE MATTER OF DCA 2 56 DASH 0 0 7, I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND ZAC RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND COMMISSIONER SADA. 
          UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? YOU HAVE ONE OPPOSED? THANK YOU. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY, NEXT IS OUR SUBDIVISION 
          [SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent Items]
DOCKET AND WE HAVE, UM, ITEMS 23 THROUGH 31 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS OR HERE IN PERSON OR ONLINE? IF NO ONE WANTS TO SPEAK, WE'LL HAVE OUR REPRESENTATIVE, MS. RETA, READ THESE INTO THE UM, DOCKET. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT CONSISTS OF NINE ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 23, ITEM 24, ITEM 25, ITEM 26, ITEM 27, ITEM 28, ITEM 29, ITEM 30, AND ITEM 31. 
          ALL CASES HA UH, NO CONDITIONED TO BE ADDED ON. 
          ITEM NUMBER 28 DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 2 5. 
          ON THE FINAL PLAT PROVIDED A THREE FOOT BARRIER EASEMENT ON HAYMARKET ROAD, HAYMARKET ROAD OR R PROPOSED 3D, SINGLE FAMILY DUPLEX OR TOWNHOUSE LOST, HAVING FRONTED AND TWO OPPOSITE SIDES ARE PROHIBITED UNLESS THE COMMISSION FINDS THAT THIS DESIGN IS ESSENTIAL TO PROVIDE PROPER ORIENTATION OF RESIDENTIAL LAWS TO THOROUGH AFFAIRS. 
          SO ALL THE CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, CAN WE GET, WAIT, 
          [03:55:01]
ARE WE ACTUALLY GONNA WRITE? CAN WE GET A MOTION? ANYONE TO SPEAK? I DIDN'T THINK SO. 
          I ASKED ALREADY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          NO ONE ONLINE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK. 
          CAN WE GET A MOTION? YES IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 23 THROUGH 31. 
          I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND AS READ INTO THE RECORD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER AND COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR THE SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          NEXT IS OUR RESIDENTIAL PLAT ITEM NUMBER 32 PLUS 20. 
          UH, PLAT DASH 26 DASH 0 0 1 3 0. 
          IT IS AN APPLICATION TO REP PLAT A 0.500 ACRE THAT IS 21,782 SQUARE FOOT TRACK OF LAND CONTAINING ALL OF LOT SEVEN IN CITY BLOCK Z 68 55 TO CREATE TWO 0.250 ACRE. 
          THAT IS 10,891 SQUARE FOOT LOTS ON PROPERTY LOCATED BETWEEN 50, UH, 55 STREET AND 56TH STREET EAST OF VETERANS DRIVE. 
          23 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY ON MAY 22ND, 2026. 
          AND WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CAN WE GET A MO A MOTION YES IN THE MATTER OF PLAT DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 3. 
          I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION AND FOR THE SECOND COMMISSIONER HOUSE RIGHT. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEE NO ONE IN THE CHAMBER. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          LET'S GET THE STREET NAMES DONE. 
          [33. 26-2044A An application to change Woodbine Avenue between Morrell Avenue and Renner Road to “Dr. David Henderson Jr. Avenue.”]
ITEM NUMBER 33, UH, S-T-N-A-M-E DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 0 3 IT IS AN APPLICATION TO CHANGE WOOD PINE AVENUE BETWEEN MOR AVENUE AND REED ROAD TO DR. DAVID HENDERSON JUNIOR AVENUE. 
          THE ITEM HAS BEEN ADVERTISED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME. 
          20 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE ABIDING PROPERTY OWNERS ON MAY 5TH, 2026 WITH ZERO REPLY IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLYING OPPOSITION. 
          NEWSPAPER NOTICE FOR THIS HEARING WAS PUBLISHED ON MAY 8TH, 2026. 
          AND NOTIFICATION SIGNS WE POSTED ALONG WOULD BY AN AVENUE ON MAY 4TH, 2026. 
          WAIVERS ARE NEEDED FOR WAIVERS FOR THIS REQUEST ARE NEEDED FOR SECTION 51 A DASH 9.304 A FIVE. 
          A STREET NAME MAY NOT CONTAIN MORE THAN 14 CHARACTERS PROVIDING HOWEVER, THAT THIS STREET TYPE DESIGNATION MAY BE ABBREVIATED TO COMPLY WITH THIS REQUIREMENT. 
          SIX AND 51 A DASH 9.504 B ONE EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN PARAGRAPH TWO, A ROADWAY MUST HAVE ONLY ONE NAME SIX AND 51 A DASH 9.304 C TWO. 
          A STREET NAME COMMEMORATING A PERSON OR HISTORIC SITE OR AREA IS PROHIBITED UNTIL AT LEAST TWO YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF THE PERSON TO BE HONORED OR THE OCCURRENCE OF THE EVENT TO BE COMMEMORATED. 
          AND SECTION 51 A DASH 9.4 D THREE NO STREET NAME MAY HAVE MORE THAN TWO LEVELS BEFORE THE STREET STREET TYPE DESIGNATION. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO THIS REQUEST PROVIDED THAT ALL THE REQUIRED WAIVERS ARE GRANTED BY CITY PLAN COMMISSION BY CITY COUNCIL AND SRC WITH UNANIMOUS VOTE. 
          RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THE REQUEST ON MAY 21ST, 2026. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SHETA. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE HERE TO SPEAK? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. 
          UM, LET'S GET A MOTION. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE, UM, NAME CHANGE CASE, ST NAME 26 0 3. 
          I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW SRC RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL AND UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF A DENIAL, UH, SAY A AYE. 
          SORRY. 
          UH, ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HABIT MOTION FAILS. 
          NEXT STREET NAME CHANGE. 
          THE MOTION PASSED. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT WAS UP FOR APPROVAL. 
          IT WAS DENIED. 
          OH, WE WEREN'T? OKAY. 
          YES, YOU DID SAY THAT. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          STAFF RECORD 
          [34. 26-2045A An application to change the name of Davenport Road (east-west) between Preston Road and Davenport Road (north-south) to “Brentfield Drive.”]
ITEM NUMBER 34 S-T-N-A-M-E DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0. 
          OKAY. 
          0 0 0 0 0 4. 
          [04:00:02]
IT IS AN APPLICATION TO CHANGE THE NAME OF EAST WEST DAVENPORT ROAD BETWEEN PRESTON ROAD AND NORTH SOUTH DEVON DAVENPORT ROAD TO BRADFIELD DRIVE. 
          THE A  HAS BEEN ADVERTISED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME. 
          34 NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE ABIDING PROPERTY OWNERS ON MAY 5TH, 2026 WITH ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND TWO REPLIES IN FAVOR FROM OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION BOUNDARY. 
          NEWSPAPER NOTICE WAS PUBLISHED ON MAY 8TH, 2026. 
          AND NOTIFICATION SIGNS WERE POSTED ALONG DEVON PORT WROTE ON MAY 4TH, 2026. 
          THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. 
          SRC WE SRC, UH, UH, WITH UNANIMOUS VOTE. 
          RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST ON MAY 21ST, 2026. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SEEING NO ONE HERE TO SPEAK, UM, IN PERSON ONLINE. 
          LET'S GET A MOTION. 
          UH, YES. 
          MR. CHAIR IN, UH, NAME CHANGE, UH, 26 DASH ZERO FOUR. 
          I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF AND SRC, UH, RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR THE SECOND. 
          UM, ALL, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, NEXT WE HAVE SIGNS AND A CONSENT AGENDA. 
          WANNA GET THOSE READ IN? GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          ITEM 35 
          [35. 26-2046A An application for a Certificate of Appropriateness by Curt Horak of Priority Signs for a 92-square-foot LED illuminated detached sign at 2508 MAPLE AVE. (SOUTHEAST CORNER).]
IS SIGN DASH 26 DASH 0 0 8 0 4. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY KURT HOEK OF PRIORITY SIGNS FOR A 92 SQUARE FOOT. 
          LED ILLUMINATED, DETACHED SIGN AT 25 0 8 MAPLE AVENUE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          S-S-D-A-C. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          ITEM 36 IS SIGN DASH 26 DASH 0 0 8 3 9. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY KURT HOEK OF PRIORITY SIGNS FOR A 761 SQUARE FOOT. 
          LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTER. 
          SIGN ON AN ALUMINUM FRAME TO READ PWC WITH LOGO AT 2121 NORTH PEARL STREET ON THE NORTHEAST ELEVATION. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          S-S-D-A-C. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          ITEM NUMBER 37 IS SIGN DASH 26 DASH 0 0 8 4 2. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS BY KURT HOAC OF PRIORITY SIGNS FOR A 761 SQUARE FOOT. 
          LED ILLUMINATED CHANNEL LETTER. 
          SIGN ON AN ALUMINUM FRAME TO READ P WC WITH A LOGO AT 2121 NORTH PEARL STREET ON THE SOUTHWEST ELEVATION. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          S-S-D-A-C. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CAN WE GET A MOTION? OH, MR. SPEAKERS? OH, THERE ARE SPEAKERS. 
          THE REPRESENTATIVES IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU CAN DO SO. 
          MS. ANGIE LEMUS. 
          HELLO EVERYONE. 
          UM, THIS IS ANGIE WITH PRIORITY SCIENCE AND GRAPHICS. 
          UM, THE ADDRESS IS 2065 MARKET LOOP AND I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YES SIR. 
          LET'S GET A MOTION, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF, UH, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR SIGNS CONSENT ITEMS 35, 36 AND 37. 
          I MOVE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND SS D'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE GET A SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER SERATO FOR THE SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          UH, ANY OPPOSED? NAY. 
          THE AYES HAVE IT. 
          MOTION PASSES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IT'S 3 31. 
          THAT CONCLUDES I'LL TAKE, DO I HAVE TO ACCEPT A MOTION? NO, THAT CONCLUDES THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR THE DAY. 
          THANK YOU.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.