[Permit and License Appeal Board Special Called Meeting on June 18, 2026.]
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WELCOME TO THIS EDITION OF THE PERMIT AND LICENSING APPEAL BOARD, UH, HEARING.
IT IS, UH, 8 37 ON THURSDAY, JUNE 18TH, 2026.
BRIEFLY, UH, THIS BOARD IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD.
MEMBERS SERVE WITHOUT COMPENSATION AND ARE APPOINTED BY THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, UH, UNLESS THE CITY CODE DICTATES OTHERWISE, WE FIND FACTS BASED ON THE PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE MORE LIKELY THAN NOT, AND APPLY THOSE FACTS TO THE CODE IN QUESTION.
UH, THE FORMAL RULES OF EVIDENCE DO NOT APPLY HERE, BUT THE BOARD MAY CHOOSE TO GIVE DIFFERENT WEIGHTS TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVIDENCE, UH, EVEN IF THEY ARE ADMITTED.
UM, IF YOU NEED ANYTHING DURING THE MEETING, PLEASE CATCH, UH, MS. SANCHEZ'S.
I, UM, WE HAVE TWO HEARINGS, UH, TECHNICALLY ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
UH, ONE HAS BEEN, UM, RESET BY THE CITY SECRETARY, BUT WE WILL JUST FORMALLY CALL IT AND, AND THEN DISPOSE OF IT.
UM, UH, THEY ARE, UH, THE, THE CASE ONE WHERE WE HAVE A DENIAL OF A DANCE HALL FOR KALU AT DISCOTECH.
AND, UM, THE SECOND IS, UH, AN HCP DESIGNATION.
UH, AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN, UH, HAS BEEN RESET.
MS. TORRES, I KNOW YOU'RE THERE, BUT WE'LL COME BACK.
UH, MR. JEFFERSON? MR. JEFFERSON, I SEE YOU.
I JUST WANNA CHECK YOUR MIC THEN.
DR. JACKSON? PRESENT VICE CHAIR SHIELD? HERE.
MR. CROW? MR. QUENCH? PRESENT? MS. SHIN? UH, IS MS. SHIN ON VIDEO? THAT I CAN'T SEE.
IT'S 1, 2, 3, I BELIEVE MS. TORRES ARE HERE.
UM, PRESUMING MS. TORRES IS HERE, MR. CRON, MS. SMITH, AND MS. AYALA ABSENT, UH, DO WE HAVE PUBLIC SPEAKERS? NO.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS JUNE 4TH, 2026.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE MEETINGS OR, OR THOSE MINUTES OR COMMENTS? HEARING NONE? DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. GONZALEZ.
UH, SO MOTION MR. GONZALEZ? SECOND.
DR. JACKSON? UH, ANY COMMENTS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
FUTURE, UH, FUTURE VOTES WILL BE BY ROLL CALL.
THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, IS OUR HEARING, UH, OF KOALA DISCOTECH APPEALING, UH, UH, LIKE SUCH A, A DENIAL OF THE DANCE HALL LATE HOURS PERMIT? UM, YEAH.
UM, BY WAY OF INTRODUCTIONS, UM, UH, IF I, UH, CALL YOU OUT, WOULD YOU JUST PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME FROM, FROM THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE BOARD?
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TERESA CARLISLE FROM THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE.UM, UH, FOR THE APPELLANT, UH, ALBRIGHT, REFERENCING THE APPELLANT, UH, WOULD BE, UH, UH, OLIVER BARONA.
AND FROM THE, UH, CITY PROSECUTOR OFFICE, UM, DAVID WILKINS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND MY WITNESS IS DETECTIVE HER, ROGER MONTREAL.
MON MONTREAL, MONTREAL WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY, WOULD YOU PLEASE BE SWORN, MS. SANCHEZ, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THE TESTIMONY YOU'LL GIVE TODAY WILL BE THE TRUTH? YES.
UM, OKAY, NOW WE CALL, UM, ITEM THREE, AND I WANT TO BE, UH, I WANNA BE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT WE'RE ON THE, THE SAME CHAPTER THAT, UM, THAT THIS IS A DENIAL OF THE, UH, LATE HOURS PERMIT ON A LOCATIONAL BASIS.
SO THIS IS AN EXEMPTION, NOT, OR MIS CARE.
UM, MS. CARLISLE WILL READ THE CODE TODAY.
YOU HAVE THE FOUR UNIT APPEAL OF A DANCE HALL LATE HOURS PERMIT.
THE BOARD MAY REVERSE THE DECISION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND GRANT A ONE YEAR EXEMPTION FROM THE LOCATIONAL RESTRICTIONS FOR A LATE HOURS PERMIT.
IF THIS BOARD FINDS THE FOLLOWING, NUMBER ONE, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DANCE HALL WILL NOT HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON NEARBY PROPERTY OR BE CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY OR WELFARE.
TWO, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DANCE HALL WILL NOT DOWNGRADE THE PROPERTY VALUE OR QUALITY OF LIFE IN ANY ADJACENT AREA, OR ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OR OF URBAN BLIGHT.
THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DANCE HALL OPERATING UNDER A LATE HOURS PERMIT IN THE AREA WILL NOT BE CONTRARY TO ANY PROGRAM OF NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION OR INTERFERE WITH ANY EFFORTS OF URBAN RENEWAL OR RESTORATION.
AND FOR ALL OTHER APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 14 WILL BE OBSERVED.
IN ADDITION, THE BOARD MAY GRANT AN EXEMPTION FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD.
IF THE BOARD FINDS THAT ONE, THE DANCEHALL HAS BEEN GRANTED AN EXEMPTION FROM THE LOCATIONAL RESTRICTIONS OF SECTION 14 DASH 3.1 FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS PROCEEDING THE CURRENT EXEMPTION REQUEST.
TWO, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT HAD ANY DANCEHALL LICENSE SUSPENDED, REVOKED, OR DENIED WITHIN THE 24 MONTH, WITHIN THE 24 MONTHS PROCEEDING, THE EXEMPTION REQUEST.
AND THREE, NO VIOLATIONS OF CHAPTER 14 HAVE BEEN COMMITTED BY THE APPLICANT OR BY ANY EMPLOYEE OF A DANCEHALL OF THE APPLICANT WITHIN THE 24 MONTHS PROCEEDING THE EXEMPTION REQUESTS.
NOW, IF THE BOARD FINDS IN THE CONTRARY TO ANY ONE OF THE PREVIOUS STATEMENTS, THEN THIS BOARD MAY AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
UH, QUICK NOTE ABOUT HOW WE'LL WE'LL APPROACH IT.
LET ME QUICKLY SAY THAT, THAT THE CLASS A DANCE HALL LICENSE WAS APPROVED ON, UH, APRIL 23.
SO THE ONLY THING BEFORE US IS THE LATE HOURS PERMIT, WHICH THE CHIEF DENIED, UH, BECAUSE THE PREMISE SITS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET, UH, OF A LOT DEVOTED TO RESIDENTIAL USE.
UH, ON THAT POINT, THE CHIEF HAD NO DISCRETION.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT HERE TO, TO REVIEW WHETHER THE CHIEF WAS RIGHT OR WRONG.
UM, OUR ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER TO GRANT AN EXEMPTION ALONG THE FOUR, THE FOUR STANDARDS THAT MS. CARLISLE, UH, JUST READ.
UH, I ALSO NOTE THAT THE APPELLANT HAS REQUESTED A TWO YEAR EXEMPTION, WHICH REQUIRES THE, UH, THREE OTHER, UM, UH, THE, THE THREE OTHER, UH, STANDARDS BEING MET THAT, THAT SHE READ.
SO WE'LL THINK ABOUT IT AT MOTION TIME IN TERMS OF DENYING APPROVING ONE YEAR OR APPROVING TWO YEAR.
UM, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH COUNSEL AND I THINK WE'VE AGREED THAT A, THAT A A A THREE MINUTE OPEN AND A THREE MINUTE CLOSE, AND EACH SIDE HAS 10 MINUTES.
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WE CAN GET IN AND OUT OR ARE WE GOOD, UH, MR. CHAIR? THAT'S CORRECT.AND IN FACT, I'LL, UH, I'LL WAIVE MY OPENING STATEMENT.
UM, MEMBERS, UH, WE WILL, UH, LIVE BY THE NIC RULE AND HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES, AND THEN TWO, UM, OKAY.
UM, MR. ALTON? UH, YEAH, MS. CAR, I CALL MY, UH, MY FIRST WITNESS SA CARDONA.
LET ME, UH, BEFORE YOU START, WE, WE HAVE ACCEPTED THE, UM, THREE PIECES OF EE EVIDENCE.
ONE IS THE, UH, APPELLANT'S REQUEST, TWO IS THE APPELLANT'S EXHIBIT, AND THREE IS THE CITY'S EXHIBIT, RIGHT? YES.
I WAS, I WAS DOING, UH, HE WAIVED HIS OPENING AND IT IS, THE CITY IS OPENING.
I WAS, I WAS FOCUSED ON WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO.
AND, AND IF THE QUESTION IS, UH, YES, I, WHAT? THE CITY WAIVES, ITS OPEN.
UH, UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR CARDONA? OKAY.
MR. CARDONA, ARE YOU THE, UH, THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF KAA DISCOTECH? YES.
AND HAVE YOU DONE THAT FROM THE LAST 17 YEARS? YES.
DURING ALL THAT TIME, HAS YOUR LICENSE EVER BEEN SUSPENDED OR REVOKED? NO.
UH, IN ORDER FOR SECURITY FOR THE PATRONS AND YOUR NEIGHBORS, WELL, WELL, FIRST LET ASK YOU, ANY NEIGHBORS EVER COMPLAINED ABOUT KUA? NO.
AND HAVE WE EVER HEARD FROM, UH, THE MOBILE HOME PARK THAT'S WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET, UH, THAT, THAT CAUSES THIS HEARING? NO.
UM, UH, YOU EMPLOY OFF DUTY DALLAS POLICE OFFICERS, UH, ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY.
UH, AND, UH, THEY ARE THERE FROM 10 30 TO 4:30 AM IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
UH, NOW ARE, WHAT DAYS ARE YOU OPEN? FRIDAY.
UH, SO YOU HAVE POLICE OFFICERS THERE EVERY DAY, YOU'RE OPEN.
YOU, UH, IN ADDITION, YOU HAVE SECURITY, UNIFORM SECURITY BEFORE INSIDE THE CLUB, UH, GENERALLY REFERRED TO AS FOREMAN? YES.
UH, ARE ALL OF YOUR EMPLOYEES TABC CERTIFIED? YES, SIR.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED IN NOT SERVING MINORS, NOT SERVING, UH, INTOXICATED PATRONS, THAT SORT OF THING? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, AND AT 2:00 AM YOU PUT THE SERVICE OF ALCOHOL? CORRECT.
AND SO WHY ARE YOU, WELL, LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY.
UH, YOU'RE SEEKING A LAID OUT PERMIT TO STAY OPEN UNTIL FOUR, UH, GENERALLY TO ALLOW THE PATRONS, AND I KNOW SOME NIGHTS YOU HAVE LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF, UH, PATRONS COME IN AND OUT SO THAT THERE IS AN ORDERLY REMOVAL OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS FROM KAA, RIGHT? DEFINITELY MANNER.
UH, AND, UH, UH, AS IN ALL THE OTHER YEARS, THERE'S A VERY LOW NUMBER OF POLICE CALLS FOR SERVICE OR OFFENSES OR THAT SORT OF THING? YES.
IN FACT, I LOOKED AT, AT THE CITY'S BOOK, UH, FOR THE SEVEN OFFENSES.
UH, THREE OF 'EM WERE, UH, STOLEN CARS.
AND THAT'S IN THE PARKING LOT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH CONTROL OVER.
AND, AND MY FAVORITE IS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO LEFT HIS VAN RUNNING.
HE CAME OUT 30 MINUTES LATER AND THE VAN WAS GONE.
IS THAT SHOCKING? YOU KNOW? YEAH.
SO, UH, AND WE ARE, UH, AGAIN, AS THE SHERIFF INDICATED, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD NO DISCRETION IN DYING, DENYING LATE HOURS.
THEY HAD TO DO THAT, UH, BECAUSE THAT THE MOBILE HOME PARK THEN A THOUSAND FEET, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
UH, HAVE YOU BEEN GRANTED AN EXEMPTION BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS? YES.
UH, AND HAS YOUR DANCEHALL LICENSE EVER BEEN SUSPENDED, REVOKED, OR DENIED WITHIN A PROCEEDING 24 MONTHS? NO.
ANY VIOLATIONS OF CHAPTER 14, THAT BEING THE DANCE HALL ORDINANCE, UH, HAS BEEN COMMITTED WITHIN THE PROCEEDING COURT? FOUR MONTH? NO.
UH, AS A RESULT, YOU'RE SEEKING A TWO YEAR EXEMPTION AS ALLOWED UNDER, UH, CHAPTER 14, THE DANCE HALL ORDINANCE? YES.
YOU HAVE TIME, UH, THAT THE, THE CARE OF THE APPLICANT RESTS.
UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT FROM THE BOARD? I'LL JUST, UH, GO THROUGH MR. SAXON.
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MS.MS. THOMAS, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
MS. TORRES? MS. TORRES, IS SHE OKAY, MR. JEFFERSON? NO QUESTIONS.
UH, DURING THAT TIME, THE GHR, UM, WAS LAID OUT, WAS APPROVED.
WERE THERE ANY COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE RESIDENTS? NO.
UM, REC, I JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
UM, MR. ANA, I DIDN'T RECALL YOU GUYS BEING HERE THE LAST TWO TIMES HERE.
UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS, IN 2024, THERE WAS THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS AND THAT RAVINE OR CANAL.
HAS THAT, HAVE YOU HAD ANY SUCCESS? HAS THE CITY HAD ANY SUCCESS WITH CLEARING THAT ENCAMPMENT YET? NO.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
UH, MR. JEFFS, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, MS. MR. QUINT? NO QUESTIONS.
MS. SHIN, WE'LL COME BACK IF YOU, UH, MR. GONZALEZ, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UM, WOULD YOU SAY THAT, UM, YOU WERE, YOU, YOU DON'T, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A DETRIMENTAL, NO QUESTION EFFECT TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, UM, OR YOU AWARE OF, UH, ANY SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE ENCOURAGING URBAN BLIGHT? NO.
UM, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION, UH, PROGRAMS? NO.
UM, SHALL WE GO BACK THROUGH IT VERY QUICKLY, MR. AXER? YEAH.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE HISTORY THAT THE CITY HAD PROVIDED US, UH, SHOWS YOU'VE BEEN GRANTED THE LATE HOURS PERMIT FOR FOUR YEARS.
CAN I ASK WHY YOU DIDN'T REQUEST TWO YEAR LAST YEAR? UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THREE YEARS WHEN WE WERE, WERE HERE LAST TIME.
IT'S, OR IT'S, IT'S MY FAULT FOR WE'RE NOT DOING, UH, UH, MORE QUICKLY, BUT NO, THERE, THERE'S NO REASON.
MS. TORRES, IS SHE ON OR, OR HAS SHE DROPPED OFF? OH, OKAY.
MS. TORRES, IF YOU'RE TALKING, WE, WE DON'T HAVE AUDIO FOR YOU STILL DON'T HAVE AUDIO
I GUESS WE, WE, WE BEAT HER INTO NO QUESTIONS.
COULD YOU EXPOUND A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UH, DISCREPANCY OF DISTANCE IN THAT LOCATION? HELLO, MR. CHA.
CAN I ADDRESS THAT OR MR. CORD US THIS QUESTION TO YOU? UH, THE, THE CITY DETERMINED DESPITE US BEING THERE 17 YEARS, THE CITY DISCOVERED FOR, UH, WHAT I'LL CALL THE, UH, A RESIDENTIAL USE.
IT'S A MOBILE HOME PARK, I BELIEVE IT IS 900 FEET AWAY.
I, I'D HAVE TO LOOK HERE, GIVE THE EXACT NUMBER.
BUT THE CITY REALIZED THAT CITI DENIED OUR LATE HOURS PERMIT BECAUSE OF THAT.
AS, UH, BOARD MEMBERS INDICATED, APPARENTLY FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, OUR REQUEST FOR A LATE HOURS PERMIT HAS BEEN APPROVED EACH YEAR.
WE ARE NOW COMING IN ASKING FOR TWO YEARS,
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WHICH ALLOWED TO DO UNDER CHAPTER 14.SO, UH, APPARENTLY WE WEREN'T AWARE THE MOBILE HOME PARK CITY WASN'T AWARE OF THE MOBILE HOME PARK UNTIL, YOU KNOW, FOUR YEARS AGO.
UH, IT IS LOCATED ACROSS WHAT IS KNOWN IN GHOST CREEK, WHICH IS WHERE THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT IS.
AND, UH, WE'VE HAD NO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MOBILE HOME PARK HAS NEVER OBJECTED TO OUR OPERATION, MADE NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE.
ANY OTHER THING? UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
UM, DR. JACKSON, VICE CHAIR C CHAIR, NO QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU GIVE US A THUMBS UP OF THUMB, BUT WE WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU IF, UH, UH, OH, YOU STILL HAVE A QUORUM, RIGHT? NO QUESTION.
UM, MR. GONZALEZ, NO QUESTIONS? NONE FROM, NONE FROM ME.
NO QUESTIONS PERMISSION TO, TO THE CITY.
UH, THE CITY CALLS DETECTIVE GERARDO.
UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND HOW ARE YOU, WHAT SPECIFIC UNIT ARE MR. CHAIR? I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY HEARING.
OH, MAYBE YOU ARE TALKING INTO THE MICROPHONE.
WE SHOULD MAYBE PULL IT CLOSER THAN IT FEELS COMFORTABLE, I THINK.
UM, SO IS THAT OKAY, MR. GIA? ALRIGHT, THAT'S BETTER.
SO DO YOU REVEAL, UH, REVEAL, DO YOU REVIEW, UH, LICENSES OUT LICENSE APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED TO YOU? YES, SIR.
WE DO REVEAL, UH, REVIEW ALL, UH, TYPES OF, UH, DANCE HALL LICENSES, LATE HOURS, BILLER HALLS, UH, SOB LICENSES, AS WELL AS THESE CENTER OFFICES.
AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE BUSINESS KNOWN AS KUA DISCO TECH? YES, I AM.
DID YOU REVIEW THE APPLICATION FOR KAHLUA DISCO TECH'S DANCE HALL LAID HOUR PERMIT? YES, I DID.
TURNING TO TAB ONE, CAN YOU BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION HISTORY? UH, CURRENTLY ON 4 21 OF 22
AGAIN, WE GRANTED A ONE YEAR PERMIT, LATE HOURS PERMIT, UM, FIVE, UH, 24.
AGAIN, THE, UH, A ONE YEAR LATE PERMIT WAS GRANTED FIVE OF 20 25, 1 YEAR LATE HOURS PERMIT WAS GRANTED.
AND ON FEBRUARY 27TH, 2026, THE KAA APPLIED FOR DANCE OFF LATE HOURS PERMIT.
ON APRIL, 2026, UH, WE APPROVED THE APPROVAL OF THE OL PERMIT WAS APPROVED, AND THE LATE HOURS WAS DENIED, UH, BY 14, 1 26, LATE HOURS DENIAL APPEAL.
UM, SO WHY WAS THE LATE HOURS PERMIT DENIED? UM, THE BLADE HOURS WAS DENIED ONLY, UH, THERE WAS NO DISCRETION.
THE PRO THE BUSINESS WAS WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UM, AND, UH, TURNING TO TAB FIVE, DOES THIS TAB DOCUMENT, UH, CALLS FOR SERVICE AT KALU UP? YES, SIR, IT DOES.
DOES THIS, UH, TAB DOCUMENT, UM, UH, POLICE REPORTS GENERATED INCIDENT REPORTS GENERATED KALU UP? YES, SIR.
IT'S A BREAKDOWN OF THE INCIDENTS, UH, OFFICE REPORTED AT KALU AND, AND THAT ADDRESS, AND YEAH.
IS IT ACTUALLY A KALU OR IS IT AT 24 35 NORTH NORTHWEST HIGHWAY? IT'S AT THE ADDRESS A LOT OF TIMES.
WE'LL, UH, POLICE WILL GET A, A RESPONSE.
WE CALL, UH, LOT OF TIMES A LIST OR SAY KALU, BUT ONCE THEY ARRIVE THERE, INTERVIEW THE INDIVIDUAL OR THE PERSON, UH, THEY LEARN THAT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT AT THE KALU, UH, BUSINESS,
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BUT A PARKING LOT OR ADJACENT TO IT OR RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT.A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL IMMEDIATELY MENTION COLU.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S, UH, LISTED ASLU.
SO LIKE THE LAST OFFENSE IN HERE, IT, IT LOOKS FROM THE NARRATIVE LIKE THAT WAS OR WAS NOT CO THE LAST ONE, THE STOLEN VEHICLE.
UM, IT SHOWS IT WAS A, AT THE PLAZA AREA.
SO IT, THEY LISTED AS CLUE UP, BUT INITIALLY THE CALL CAME OUT SO THAT, THAT COMES OUT WITH CLUE WAS WITH THE NAME, BUT THE OFFICE DIDN'T, THERE DIDN'T OCCUR OR OCCURRED IN THE PARKING LOT.
TURNING TAB SEVEN, UH, IS THIS DOCUMENTING POLICE REPORTS GENERATED DURING THAT LATE HOURS WINDOW FROM 2:00 AM TO 4:00 AM CORRECT.
IS THE NUMBER OF INCIDENT INCIDENT REPORTS FOR THIS LOCATION UNUSUALLY HIGH FOR BUSINESS OF THIS TYPE IN THIS AREA? NO, IT'S NOT.
UM, BASED ON THE INCIDENT REPORTS, WAS THERE, DO YOU BELIEVE THERE WAS A PATTERN OF CRIME AT THE LOCATION? NO IDEA.
UM, ASIDE FROM THE LOCATIONAL RESTRICTION OF BEING WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF A RESIDENCE, IS THERE ANY OTHER REASON TO DENY THE, UH, APPLICANT'S, UH, DANCEHALL LEAD HOURS PERMIT? NO, THERE'S NOT.
AND, UM, IS THAT MY FEEDBACK? I'LL SHOUT INTO THE SMARTPHONE.
UM, SO DURING THE LAST 24 MONTHS, HAS UH, THERE BEEN A DOCUMENTED VIOLATION OF CHAPTER 14 AT THIS BUSINESS? NO, THEY HASN'T.
AND, UM, UH, HAS THE APPLICANT HAD HIS LICENSE BELOW OR SUSPENDED? YEAH.
AND AS YOU TESTIFIED, WE, THIS IS OUR FIFTH TIME, CORRECT? HERE'S MY FOURTH TIME, YES.
MR. TERRY? THANK YOU, MR. MR. CHAIR.
YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES OR YOU GOOD FOR QUESTION? YEAH, WE REST.
UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD, MR. SAXON? YEAH, THANK YOU, DETECTIVE.
WHY IS IT THAT WE'RE HERE, I GUESS IS A QUESTION? SO IF WE KEEP COMING BACK TO THE PLAID HEARING FOR THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR 17 YEARS.
WE HAVE A A THOUSAND FEET MARKER.
THEY HAVE A LATE, UH, HALL DANCE PERMIT PRIOR TO THE, THE, THE PLAID HEARING THAT WE HAD BACK IN 2022.
THE, UH, PRIOR, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, BACK TO 2022, BUT I KNOW THAT BEN GI UP, UH, OBTAINING A OL IN THE LATE HOURS, NOT UNTIL, UH, WE GOT THERE AND WE DID IT ACTUALLY SURVEY OF THE LAND SURVEY THAT WE LEARNED OF THE, THERE BEING A PROPERTY WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET.
SO THERE WAS NO DISCRETION WITHIN THIS, UH, UH, UH, CITY DOWNS, UH, JEEP TO REVOKE OR TO DENY THAT LATE HOURS WE
THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST IF THEY, IF THEY COULD PROVE THAT THEY HAD A LATE HAUL ADVANCE PERMIT PRIOR TO 2022, WHEN YOU GUYS DID THAT, IS THERE A PROCESS THAT CAN, CAN BE TAKEN, GRANDFATHER THEM IN SO WE DON'T HAVE TO APPEAL EVERY YEAR? THE, THE LICENSE IS A ONE YEAR LICENSE.
THEY HAVE TO APPLY EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
UM, I JUST KIND OF HAVE ONE QUESTION, UH, REGARDING THE NUMBER OF, UH, PRIORITY ONE CALLS.
UH, WOULD YOU SAY THAT WAS RELATIVELY LOW FOR A, AN OR A, UH, FACILITY LIKE THIS? YES, MA'AM.
THEY, I SEE THEY ONLY HAD THREE, UH, PRIORITY ONES, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
AND I SEE ONE WAS A ROBBERY AND, UM, NO ACTUAL STABBINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE PROPERTY? NO MA'AM.
UH, MS. TORRES, UH, I SEE A FINGER, A YES.
UH, MR. JEFFERSON? NO QUESTIONS, DR. JACKSON? UM, I JUST, UH, I GUESS CLARIFICATION, WOULD WE SAY THAT, UH, WE'RE HERE BECAUSE OF MAY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE WAS APPROVED A YEAR OR TWO AGO, AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY WE HAVE THE 1000 FEET? UH, I, LET, LET ME HANDLE THAT OR TACKLE THAT? NO, THE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE.
IT HAS, UM, IT'S REQUIREMENT IN THE, UH, DANCE HALL ORDINANCE.
UM, I, I THINK IT'S TO ADDRESS NOISE AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS THAT CAN ARISE WHEN,
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UH, BUSINESS THAT HAS A LOT OF PEOPLE LEAVING AT, YOU KNOW, LATE AT NIGHT AS OPPOSED TO A RESIDENCE.BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL LAYOUT AND DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S A PROBLEM ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UH, SO THE ORDINANCE HAS DELEGATED THAT RESPONSIBILITY BOARD.
I, I WAS JUST WORSHIPING BECAUSE, UM, ALL THE OTHER YEARS THAT IT HAD BEEN APPROVED, AND I KNOW THIS IS A CASE BY CASE EACH YEAR, AND, UH, THAT 1000 FEET CAME IN BECAUSE OF RESIDENCE.
SO THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE TO, TO BE FAIR, YOU'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE TWO YEAR UNTIL THEY, THEY, UH, GET THREE, RIGHT.
JUST, UM, UM, VICE CHAIR ILLA OR NO QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I'M GONNA ROLL WITH NONE, NO S FROZEN.
THERE WE'RE, UM, MR. GONZALEZ, NO QUESTIONS.
AND, UM, ARE YOU AWARE OF, OF ISSUES OF CASES AT THIS EXACT ADDRESS? IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THIS ADDRESS IS, IS ONE THAT THIS BOARD HAS SEEN.
UH, THERE'S NOT AN OVERLAP THAT'S NOT, UH, MR. CHAIR, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, MR. FORGOT WHO OWNS, THAT'S THE ONE, THE, THE, THE WHOLE PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDES THREE ADDRESSES, 24, 15, 24, 35, 24 45.
THAT, THAT'S THE ONE I WAS REFERRING TO HAS BEEN BEFORE THE BOARD.
UM, SO YES, BUT THAT IS SEPARATE.
THIS WAS THE LICENSE, LICENSE.
THIS IS WHETHER THIS ONE TENANT IS GOT IT.
AND YOUR, UH, YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE, THE THREE PREDICATES IN THE, THE SECOND PART THAT'S, UM, UH, THAT THERE'S BEEN NO REVOCATION OR DENIAL, UM, NOTE CHAPTER 14 VIOLATIONS, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AT THIS POINT WE HAVE, UH, CLOSING ARGUMENTS.
MR. THEN, MR. I'LL ALRIGHT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND WAIVE CLOSING ARGUMENTS.
UM, EVIDENTIARY PART OF THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
YOU READY FOR A MOTION? MR. GONZALEZ? I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.
THIS IS THE LONGEST MOTION I THINK I'VE EVER READ IN MY ENTIRE LIFE, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'S GONNA BE RIGHT AND NOBODY WILL TELL, HOPEFULLY WON'T HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN FOR TWO YEARS.
SO, UH, I MOVE WITH THE PERMANENT AND LICENSE APPEAL BOARD AND APPEAL TO DENIAL OF A DANCE HALL LICENSE AND LATE HOURS PERMIT FOR KUA DISCOTECH LOCATED AT 24 35 NORTH NORTHWEST HIGHWAY, SUITE 1 0 1, DALLAS, TEXAS, REVERSE THE DECISION OF THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND GRANT A TWO YEAR EXEMPTION FROM THE LOCATIONAL RESTRICTIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER 14 AND SECTION TWO DASH 96 OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE.
BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONY SHOW THAT THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DANCE HALL WILL NOT HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON NEARBY PROPERTY OR BE CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY OR WELFARE, THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DANCE HALL WILL NOT DOWNGRADE THE PROPERTY VALUE OF QUALITY OF LIFE IN ANY ADJACENT AREA OR ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF URBAN BLIGHT.
THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DANCE CALL OPERATING UNDER A LATE HOURS PERMIT IN THE AREA WILL NOT BE CONTRARY TO ANY PROGRAM OR NEIGHBORHOOD OF NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION OR INTERFERE WITH ANY EFFORTS OF URBAN RENEWAL OR RESTORATION.
AND ALL OTHER APPLICABLE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 14 WILL BE OBSERVED.
UH, IN ADDITION, THE DANCE CALL HAS BEEN GRANTED AN EXEMPTION FROM THIS LOCATIONAL RESTRICTIONS OF SECTION 14 DASH 3.1 FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE YEARS PROCEEDING THE CURRENT EXEMPTION REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT HAD ANY DANCE HALL LICENSE SUSPENDED, REVOKED, OR DENIED WITHIN THE 24 MONTHS PROCEEDING.
THE EXEMPTION REQUEST AND NO VIOLATIONS OF CHAPTER 14 HAVE BEEN COMMITTED BY THE APPLICANT OR BY ANY EMPLOYEE OF A DANCE CALL OF THE APPLICANT WITHIN THE 24 MONTHS PROCEEDING THE EXEMPTION REQUEST.
MR. GONZALEZ, YOUR MOTION? I DON'T THINK ANY MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID.
I SAID ENOUGH RIGHT THERE, MR. SAXON
YEAH, I JUST WANNA A COMMENT ON MR. CORDONA.
UH, DOES THE SECURITY THAT YOU, UM, PAID FOR, DOES IT HINDER YOUR BUSINESS AT ALL? OR IS IT HELP, LIKE OVERALL
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HAVING, UH, OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS, UH, FOLKS IN YOUR CLUB JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S SAFE? IS IT HITTING YOUR BOTTOM LINE REALLY HARD OR IS IT REALLY HELPFUL? MR. SAX? TECHNICALLY YOU SHOULD BE ASKING HIM A, HIM A QUESTION, BUT IF YOU HAVE A QUICK ANSWER YEAH, SORRY, I JUST, I, I WANT, I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, IS MY COMMENT.AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THEY VERY HELP.
HAVING MORE OFFICERS AND MORE SECURE.
YEAH, AND I, I WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY ELSE WHO'S WILLING TO COME TO THE LAB UNDERSTANDS THE, THE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT FOR THE RECORD SO OTHER PEOPLE WHO WATCH THIS MEETING CAN GET SOME INSPIRATION FROM YOU.
THE CITY HAS COMMENTED FAIRLY, UH, POSITIVELY ON EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
UM, ARE THERE OTHER COMMENTS? UH, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH IT REAL QUICK? UM, MS. THOMAS? NO.
MS. TORRES, MR. JEFFERSON, DR. JACKSON? WELL, MR. JEFFERSON, WELL, MY ONLY COMMENT WOULD BE, UM, I APPLAUD THE, UH, WORK THAT THEY'VE PUT IN TO, YOU KNOW, KEEPING PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, UP TO WHERE IT HAS FOR ALL THESE MANY YEARS, 20 PLUS YEARS.
UM, ALTHOUGH I'LL PROBABLY BE IN THE NEGATIVE, I, I STILL FEEL, UH, SOME KIND OF WAY OF NOT, UH, AFFIRMING THE CHIEF'S POSITION BECAUSE HIS STAND POINT STILL WASN'T A THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, THE THOUSAND FEET, JUST THESE THINGS.
THAT WAS THE REASON WHY IT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S SOMETHING 900 AND WE'RE TALKING SEMANTICS, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY CHIEF ON THAT, NOT THOSE DEFENSE.
UH, THAT, WELL, IT IS, UH, THANK YOU, MR. JEFFERSON.
UM, DR. JACKSON, I ALSO JUST WANNA APPALL THAT, UM, THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN WAS THE RESIDENTS, SINCE THERE WERE NO OTHER, UH, COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.
UM, THAT'S, UM, A POSITIVE AS WELL.
ALSO, UH, HAVING SECURITY ON PROPERTY AND ALSO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU DO HAVE PUBLIC, IT TAKE A WHILE TO GET THE, UH, PATRON PATRONS OUT THERE.
AND SO WHEN YOU SAID THAT, UH, YOU STOPPED SELLING AT TWO O'CLOCK, THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER POSITIVE, BUT IT DOES TAKE TIME TO GET, UH, THE PATRONS OUT.
SO, UH, I APPLAUD YOU ON THAT FOR THE LATE THANK TO YOU.
AND HIN, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU SIT INCREDIBLY STILL OR NO COMMENT, FREEZE FRAME.
I CAN'T TELL
UM, ONLY THING I'D SAY IS, UM, OVER THE YEARS YOU SEE A LOT OF, AND I, I APPRECIATE A, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS NOT EASY TO WIN.
IT TAKES EVERY DAY TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT STUFF.
AND I ALSO APPRECIATE WHEN, WHEN THE CITY, UM, COMES AND SAYS, LOOK, THESE ARE GOOD ACTORS.
WE, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BE HERE, BUT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO THE WORLD, THESE PEOPLE, IT, IT GIVES CREDIBILITY, UH, FRANKLY, AND THE WORLD HUMAN, UM, FOR TIMES WHEN YOU'RE NOT SAYING IT.
BUT I, I'VE SEEN OTHER BOARDS WHERE CLEARLY PEOPLE PRESENTING TO US DON'T HAVE THAT LEEWAY.
UM, THE MOTION IS TO REVERSE AND TO GRANT A TWO YEAR EXEMPTION.
OKAY? SO A YES VOTE RIGHT NOW IS FOR TWO YEARS.
UH, YOU HAVE THE OBLIGATION, UH, YOU HAVE THE, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TECHNICALLY TO VOTE NO.
AND THEN VOTE YES FOR ONE YEAR IF YOU WANT, BUT, OKAY.
IS MS. SMITH HERE? YES, I'VE SEEN HER POP UP.
IF SHE'S HERE, SHE NEEDS TO VOTE.
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THAT'S A, YEAH.SHE'LL BE BACK WITH US IN A MINUTE.
WE'LL WAIT VERY QUICKLY FOR MS. SHIN.
SO THE MOTION PASSES, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 TO ONE WITH MR. JEFFERSON IN OPPOSITION.
UM, JUST SO THE RECORD ON THE, ON, ON OUR, UH, AGENDA, WE DID HAVE AN ITEM FOUR, WHICH WAS, UH, AN APPLICATION, UH, TO CONTEST THE NOTICE OF FINAL DETERMINATION AS A HABITUAL CRIMINAL PROPERTY FROM, UH, RODNEY HUBBARD AT 9 0 9 ELM STREET, LLC.
UM, MS. SANCHEZ, DID THE CITY SECRETARY GRANT A RESET? YES.
UH, OKAY, THAT SAID, HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
HAVE A WONDERFUL TWO HOLIDAYS, UH, AND, UH, ABSENT LOTS OF CHANGES.
UH, WE'LL SEE YOU ON JULY NEXT.
UH, IT IS 9:19 AM ON, UH, THURSDAY, JUNE 16TH, 2026.