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          NOW. 
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OKAY. 
          UH, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          IT IS 10:53 AM ON JUNE 25TH, 2026, AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. 
          DISTRICT ONE. 
          COMMISSIONER SIMS. I'M HERE. 
          DISTRICT TWO. 
          COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. 
          PRESENT DISTRICT THREE. 
          VICE CHAIR. 
          HERBERT PRESENT? DISTRICT FOUR. 
          COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH. 
          HERE. 
          DISTRICT FIVE. 
          COMMISSIONER SORATO. 
          PRESENT? DISTRICT SIX. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. 
          PRESENT? DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          COMMISSIONER WILLER REAGAN? HERE. 
          DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT? DISTRICT NINE. 
          COMMISSIONER KONS. 
          HERE. 
          DISTRICT 10. 
          COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. 
          PRESENT? DISTRICT 11. 
          COMMISSIONER COX? PRESENT? DISTRICT 12. 
          COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. 
          PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT 13. 
          COMMISSIONER HALL HERE. 
          DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBIN? I'M HERE. 
          YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          WE ARE BACK TO HAVING A FULLY STOCKED CPC. 
          UM, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH JOINING US FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY. 
          SO EVERYONE PLEASE GIVE HER A WARM WELCOME. 
          LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. 
          UM, I KNOW SHE'S READY TO DIVE IN AND GET TO WORK ON CPC IN DISTRICT FOUR CASES. 
          AND AS YOU GET UP TO SPEED, WE'RE ALL VERY HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND SHARE OUR PERSPECTIVE AND, AND HELP, UM, YEAH, HELP YOU OUT AS YOU LEARN THIS FUN NEW JOB. 
          OKAY, I DO HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR BRIEFING. 
          UM, THE FIRST OFF IS THAT IF ANYONE IS HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 14, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER Z 26 0 0 0 0 0 7, THE PRESTON ROYAL ZONING CASE, I'D LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE CASE IS GOING TO BE TICED, THE COMMISSION WILL NOT BE HEARING THE CASE TODAY, SO IT WILL NOT BE TAKEN UP AT THE BRIEFING OR AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, YOU MAY NOTICE THAT OUR SEATING ARRANGEMENTS HAVE CHANGED. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO GIVE COMMISSIONER KINGSTON CREDIT FOR THIS IDEA, ALTHOUGH IT TOOK ME A LITTLE WHILE TO IMPLEMENT, BUT SHE SUGGESTS RATHER THAN JUST HAVE THE SEATING BASED ON SENIORITY THAT WE MIX IN MEMBERS WHO HAVE SERVED FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME VERSUS THOSE WHO ARE NEWER, WHICH I THINK REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST JOINED CPC, WE SAT AND DID THE BRIEFINGS IN THE BACK ROOM RIGHT THERE, BACK THERE, AND IT REALLY HELPED ME LEARN A LOT JUST BEING NEXT TO SOME EXPERIENCED PEOPLE DURING THE BRIEFING. 
          SO I HOPE THIS, THIS NEW SEATING ARRANGEMENT WORKS OUT, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE NOT BEEN ON THE BODY AS LONG, THAT THIS PRESENTS A GOOD LEARNING OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU. 
          UM, LAST ITEM I WANTED TO NOTE IS THAT AT 10 SOMETHING LAST NIGHT, UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF BEING HERE AT CITY HALL WHEN OUR RULES AMENDMENTS, UM, PAST COUNCIL. 
          SO THOSE HAVE NOW BEEN ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, WHICH IS FANTASTIC, AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR DILIGENT WORK ON THE RULES AMENDMENTS. 
          UM, I GOT SOME QUESTIONS FROM SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS AND WHAT REALLY WAS HELPFUL TO THEM IS KNOWING HOW MUCH TIME AND THOUGHT THAT WE PUT INTO THEM. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP WITH THOSE. 
          AND I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOW OPERATING UNDER OUR OFFICIALLY WITH COUNCIL BLESSING, UNDER OUR NEWLY AMENDED RULES. 
          WITH THAT, WE WILL GO 
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INTO OUR BRIEFING. 
          UM, AND JUST AS A REMINDER FOR COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH AND, UM, EVERYONE, THAT THIS IS JUST A TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF ABOUT THE CASES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR DOCKET TODAY. 
          ANY DISCUSSION SHOULD BE SAVED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE AFTERNOON, AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY BRIEF EVERY ITEM COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH. 
          IF THERE ARE, UM, IF A MEMBER WANTS AN ITEM BRIEF, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO IT, BUT WE FOUND THAT NOT EVERY ITEM NECESSARILY REQUIRES A BRIEFING BASED ON COMPLEXITY IN SOME OTHER THINGS. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, I THINK THAT OUR FIRST ITEM IS A MISCELLANEOUS ITEM IN IN D EIGHT. 
          WOULD WE LIKE THAT BRIEF? ARE WE OKAY TO I DO, MR. CHAIR. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
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GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. 
          THIS IS ITEM NUMBER ONE, CASE MZ 25 DASH 20. 
          THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA A AND SUB AREA B WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 10 55. 
          IT IS APPROXIMATELY 11.75 ACRES AND IT IS WITHIN COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          THE LOCATION OF THIS AREA REQUEST IS AT THE NORTHWEST LINE OF SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD BETWEEN GARDEN GROVE DRIVE AND S SEAVILLE ROAD. 
          HERE WE HAVE AN AERIAL MAP, AS YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTHEAST. 
          WE DO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL AS TO THE WEST. 
          UM, TO THE SOUTH WE DO HAVE A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK, UH, DISTRICT. 
          SO A BRIEF BACKGROUND. 
          UM, THIS PD WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, IN ON MAY 26TH, 2021. 
          UM, THERE IS TWO SUB AREAS AS PART OF THE, UH, PD SUB AREA A, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN WE HAVE SUB AREA B WITH JUST NON-RESIDENTIAL. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT CONTAINING 210 DWELLING UNITS IN SUB AREA A, AND THEN RETAIL USES IN SUB AREA B. 
          PLEASE DO NOTE, UM, THERE WERE PERMITS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE SB EIGHT 40 EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THAT'S WHY THIS DOES NOT APPLY AS AN SB EIGHT 40. 
          UM, AND CPC APPROVAL IS REQUIRED. 
          SO HERE WE DO HAVE THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND THEN WE HAVE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN RIGHT HERE. 
          AND THEN STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER FRANK OR SORRY, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? YEAH, MY NAME. 
          I WAS HAPPY TO DEFER COMMISSIONER FRANKL IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, MY ONLY, UM, ITEM I'D READ BACK THROUGH THE PD AND WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT, YES, THERE WAS A REQUIRED TENNIS AND BASKETBALL COURT WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE, AND I DIDN'T SEE THOSE IDENTIFIED OR HOW THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE PROVIDED. 
          COULD YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW STEPH REVIEWED THAT? ABSOLUTELY. 
          SO ON THE, UH, PROPOSED PLAN, UM, WE DID LEAVE NOTES AT THE BOTTOM LEFT, UM, REGARDING THOSE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, UM, THEY WILL BE HANDLED AT PERMITTING, BUT WE MADE SURE TO INCLUDE ALL THE OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. 
          WELL, I GUESS I'LL ASK IT MAYBE A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THERE WILL BE ADEQUATE SPACE TO PROVIDE THOSE TWO AMENITIES BASED ON THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT NOW AS PER THE ZONING, BUT THEY WILL BE HANDLED AT PERMITTING. 
          UM, THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO WE DID JUST ADD A NOTE TO MAKE SURE IT STILL COMPLIES WITH THE PD ORDINANCE AND WE HAD CALCULATIONS DONE. 
          SO IF IT PERMITTING, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO FUNCTIONALLY GET THOSE TO LAY OUT, IT WOULD COME BACK AGAIN. 
          THEY WOULD, BUT AT THAT POINT IT WOULD BE, UM, I BELIEVE MINISTERIAL, UM, JUST LIKE STAFF LEVEL APPROVAL. 
          IF THAT, IF I CAN GET THAT CLARIFIED, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR TO AMEND IT. 
          YES. 
          BUT IF THEY HAVE TO REVISE THE LAYOUT AGAIN, HOW IS THAT STAFF LEVEL VERSUS CPC? BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. 
          YES, YES. 
          CLARIFICATION. 
          COMPLY WITH THE PLAN OR ABOUT THEIR PROOF, OR WE'LL BE CONSIDERING FOR APPROVAL. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          MR. FRANKLIN? NO, THAT, THAT REALLY GOT TO MY QUESTION THAT I HAD, SO, OH, OKAY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I HAD A REQUEST TO BRIEF ITEM NUMBER TWO, SO DR. 
          DON? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          WAS THERE A QUESTION? I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE, UM, BRIEFING POWERPOINT, BUT I'M LISTENING TO THE QUESTION. 
          YEAH, NO, PLEASE, DR. DUNN. 
          THANK YOU FOR THIS. 
          AND, UH, I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS, AS I LOOK AT, AS I LOOK AT THE REPORT, IT, IT APPEARS THAT, UH, THE STRUCTURE IN QUESTION, UH, ABOUT LANDMARKING IS THE REMNANTS OF A BRIDGE, CORRECT? IT'S A RUIN . 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WE ARE INDEED LANDMARKING. 
          OKAY. 
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GEORGE, I MAY NEED YOUR HELP. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION? RESISTED A 1951. 
          YES. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS SOMETHING THE CITY ATTEMPTED TO DEMOLISH BACK IN 1951 AND WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL AT IT. 
          IT WAS STRONGER THAN THE DEMOLITION EQUIPMENT. 
          IT IS STILL THERE. 
          SO NOW WE DESIRE TO HONOR IT, HONOR IT, IT'S LONGEVITY. 
          C OUTTA CURIOSITY, DOCTOR, WHO'S DRIVING THE PROCESS? IS IT STAFF INITIATED? ARE THERE CITIZENS INITIATING THE PROCESS OR, THIS IS A WELL STAFF INITIATED DESIGNATION COMMITTEE, UM, ENCOURAGED PROCESS AND THE BRIDGE IS OWNED BY THE, UM, COUNTY, DALLAS COUNTY AND MAINTAINED AS MUCH AS IT POSSIBLY CAN BE BY PUBLIC WORKS DALLAS COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS. 
          AND WILL THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION RESULT ANY INCREASED MAINTENANCE BY PUBLIC WORKS OR IS IS UNFORTUNATELY WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT FOR THAT. 
          I HAVE CONTACTED THEM AND BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW, WHICH IS CUTTING THE GRASS NEARBY, THAT WILL CONTINUE. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. 
          MR. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER HAMPTON'S ALSO PARTICULARLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS STRUCTURE. 
          LET'S GO ON TO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON THEN. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER SIMS. UM, UH, DR. 
          DUN, ARE YOU AWARE IF THERE IS ALSO COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND I BELIEVE SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN TRYING TO HELP FACILITATE THE, UM, CARE OF THE SURROUNDING AREA? I KNOW THAT IS THE CASE FOR EAGLE FORD BEER. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE QUITE A TEAM OF ENTHUSIASTIC INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE IT'S THAT BRIDGE IN THE WEST DALLAS AREA AS WELL AS THIS ONE. 
          SO I KNOW I HAVE SOME PEOPLE ATTEMPTING TO HELP ME, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET SOME SUPPORT FOR MAINTENANCE, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT. 
          YEAH, THERE'S THERE'S NO FORMAL AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? NO FORMAL AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME. 
          YEAH, AND I THINK, UM, I WILL JUST, WELL, I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THANK YOU DR. DUNN. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          LET'S JUST GO DOWN THE LINE. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, THE COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT? YES. 
          DR. DUNN. 
          I WAS CURIOUS, DID THE GAP IN THE STRUCTURE RESULT FROM THE UNSUCCESSFUL DEMOLITION DEMOLITION ATTEMPT? NOT THAT I KNOW OF. 
          YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE TRAIL RUNS THROUGH IT? WELL, THERE'S THE STRUCTURE AND THEN THERE'S A GAP. 
          YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SAY IT, IT CONNECTED AT ONE TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS THE RESULT OF THE DEMOLITION ATTEMPT. 
          I'LL HAVE TO CHECK INTO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MM-HMM . 
          MR. HOUSEWRIGHT? UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          UM, I SUSPECT MANY OF US AT THE HORSESHOE HERE WISH THE INTERURBAN WAS STILL OPERATIONAL OKAY. 
          AND, UH, LINKING, UH, COMMUNITIES HERE IN NORTH TEXAS, BUT IT'S NOT, UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO PREFACE THAT BY SAYING I, I'M A SORT OF A FAN OF THE INTERURBAN AND THE IDEA, HOWEVER, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE, IF THIS DESIGNATION GOES THROUGH AND THE BRIDGE BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE OR, UH, IT'S, IT'S A IMPEDIMENT TO STORM WATER OR, OR JUST SOMETHING, SOME UNFORESEEN UNFORESEEN CONDITION WHERE IT, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THE DESIGNATION DO FOR US AT THAT POINT? OR, OR WHAT, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD IT INHIBIT? JUST SOLVING PROBLEMS LIKE THAT. 
          IT WOULD NOT INHIBIT IT, OF COURSE, BEFORE, WITH ANY DESIGNATED, LOCALLY DESIGNATED LANDMARK, IF YOU DESIRE TO DEMOLISH IT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A FORMAL CERTIFICATE OF DEMOLITION PROCESS. 
          BUT OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS REPORTS, ET CETERA, BASICALLY SAYING IT CANNOT BE SALVAGED AT THAT POINT, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION WOULD CONSIDER THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. 
          OKAY. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ITEMS SIX, SEVEN, AND EIGHT HAVE COME OFF AND WILL BE CONSIDERED ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. 
          AND AGAIN, OTHERWISE ON CONSENT RIGHT NOW IS 3, 4, 5, 9, AND 10. 
          AND I SEE THERE IS OPPOSITION ON A COUPLE. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO PULL THOSE OR WAIT TO SEE IF THEY'RE PRESENT? THAT'D BE FINE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION ON FOUR AND FIVE, SO IF THEY DO SHOW UP, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO PULL THOSE OFF. 
          ANYTHING ELSE NEED TO COME OFF CONSENT AT THE MOMENT, MR. WHEELER? OKAY. 
          FIRST IN SEPTEMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          I WHAT? THAT IS NINE THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          OR SEPTEMBER 3RD. 
          OKAY. 
          NINE. 
          OKAY. 
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COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, I HAVE A QUESTION ON NUMBER THREE. 
          I DON'T NEED IT OFF CONSENT NECESSARILY, BUT JUST A, A STAFF QUESTION. 
          MS. LEVY? HI, MR. CHAIR. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON NUMBER THREE. 
          I HAVE CASE Z 2 5 2 23 COMMISSIONER HALL, IS THAT CORRECT? I HAVE, IT'S, IT'S ME OVER HERE. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S ALRIGHT. 
          COMMS, I, I JUST HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          MAYBE I DON'T, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT THIS MORNING, BUT WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE TO HEAR THIS CASE? WHY DOES THIS POOR APPLICANT HAVE TO COME BEFORE US ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS? AND I GUESS MORE IMPORTANTLY, IS THIS, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ADDRESS IN CODE REFORM, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL OR SOMETHING OTHER THAN, UH, APPLICANT HAVING TO PAY THE FEES FOR A ZONING REQUEST, GET REPRESENTATION, COME DOWN HERE, SPEND TIME, AND ALL THEY WANNA DO IS PUT IN A DRIVEWAY ACROSS PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN BOTH PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN. 
          AND IT JUST, I, I THINK IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE ABSURD THAT WE EVEN HAD THIS ON OUR DOCKET. 
          YES. 
          UM, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME VENT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION AND, AND THE COMMENTS. 
          UH, YES, I BELIEVE WE MAY HAVE TRIED TO DO THIS THROUGH ONE OF THE CODE AMENDMENTS A WHILE BACK, BUT IT, IT JUST, IT DIDN'T MAKE, UM, IT DIDN'T GET INTO THE CODE AMENDMENT OFFICIALLY. 
          IT MAY BE SOMETHING, IT PROBABLY IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED IN CODE REFORM, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S BEING LOOKED AT, BUT, UM, MICHAEL WADE'S NOT HERE. 
          HE WOULD KNOW. 
          UM, BUT YES, IT IS NECESSARY RIGHT NOW, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT PROPERLY ZONED TO HAVE THAT ACCESS TO THAT, THAT LOT WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, I KNOW IT'S JUST FOR THE DRIVEWAY AND SOME PARKING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO. 
          UM, THEY CAN'T, CAN'T GO THROUGH PERMITTING WITHOUT DOING THIS. 
          I READ THE STAFF REPORT. 
          I I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT GIVES US IN THE CITY A BAD NAME IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW? THANK YOU. 
          IT MAKES THINGS REALLY DIFFICULT FOR OUR CITIZENS AND OUR PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN WE, I'M SORRY, JUST, JUST QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER WHEELER? AND SO WHY, OR MAYBE CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IN OTHER AR AREAS, WHY WOULDN'T A MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENT BETWEEN EVEN THE, UM, BE ALLOWED AND THOSE MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENTS GO TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR APPROVAL? SO WHY, WHY WEREN'T THEY ABLE TO DO THAT AT PERMITTING? I'M SORRY, I'M STRUGGLING TO HEAR YOU. 
          UM, SO WHY AT PERMITTING, THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO DO A MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME THROUGH THIS PROCESS WHEN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND, UM, TWO PROPERTY OWNERS, WHETHER IT'S THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER, BOTH ARE ALLOWED TO DO MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENTS. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, UM, BASIC AND WHY WOULDN'T IT APPLY HERE? YEAH, THE ORDINANCE, UM, I THINK YOU'RE ASKING THIS, UM, THE ORDINANCE RIGHT NOW DOES NOT ALLOW, UM, COMMERCIAL ACCESS FROM RESIDENTIAL TO, TO GET TO COMMERCIAL. 
          AND SO THAT IS WHY, THAT IS THE NATURE OF THE CASE. 
          THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE. 
          UM, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES OWN BOTH LOTS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
          IT JUST, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS PROHIBITED IN OUR DEVELOPMENT CODE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND, AND THEY CAN'T DO THEIR A SEPARATE DRIVE AS FAR AS, UM, CREATING A THEIR OWN STREET OR DO THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS? THEY, I'LL ADD ON AND THEY, THEY PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN NEED A MUTUAL ACCESS AGREEMENT BECAUSE THEY OWN BOTH PROPERTIES. 
          BUT THE, I MEAN, THE O ONLY OTHER THING THAT THEY COULD DO IS BUILD A PUBLIC STREET, WHICH IS, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING BIG AND WIDE, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WANTS THAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, TO DEDICATE A 50 FOOT PUBLIC STREET, THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY OPTION, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE A PUBLIC STREET THAT DEAD ENDS AT A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, WE DO IT, SO WHY WOULDN'T IT WHEN WE, WE DO IT ALL THE TIME FOR TOWN HOME DISTRICTS AND OTHER DISTRICTS THAT THEY, THOSE STREETS ARE, ARE, IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL, UM, AGAIN, THEY, THEY CAN'T IN OUR CODE RIGHT NOW, IF IT'S ANY ALLY ZONED, IF IT'S NOT A COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY, UM, YOU BASICALLY CAN'T HAVE THAT CROSS 
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ACCESS FOR TWO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? JUST ONE FOLLOW UP. 
          SO I, I THINK I DO FOLLOW THAT. 
          IT'S THE, THE UNDERLYING ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL ZONING THAT'S TRYING TO ACT U BE UTILIZED FOR ACCESS TO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 
          UM, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, MOVING TO THE NSA EFFECTIVELY COMPLETES THE LINE OF WHERE THE COMMERCIAL VERSUS THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS, BUT IT APPEARS THAT THIS WOULD ONLY ALLOW ACCESS VIA THE RESIDENTIAL STREET, IS THAT CORRECT? 'CAUSE THEY CANNOT ACCESS FROM THE SERVICE ROAD TO THE NORTH. 
          YES, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          UM, AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE ONLY REZONING THE DRIVEWAY PORTION, UM, IS BECAUSE THEY DO WANT TO HAVE A, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THAT SECONDARY LOT TO THE SOUTH. 
          UM, SO, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO CONFIRM BEFORE WE CAME THROUGH THAT IF THEIR DEVELOPMENT SHOULD MOVE SOUTH, THE COMMERCIAL PORTION, THIS WOULD NOT COVER THEM IF THEY, YOU KNOW, WENT BEYOND THE EXTENT OF THE, THE DRIVEWAY THAT THE STRIP THAT'S BEING REZONED NOW, THE 30 BY 40, UH, STRIP, UH, THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULDN'T  AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          SO, UM, OKAY. 
          SO THEY SHOULD BE COVERED. 
          SO THIS WILL EFFECTIVELY CREATE A SPLIT ZONING WITHIN THE SINGLE LOT. 
          AGAIN, PARKING AND DRIVEWAY IS THEIR CURRENT, OBVIOUSLY SIZE WILL LIMIT FUNCTIONALLY WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY DO, BUT, UM, THANK YOU, THAT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND. 
          ONE THING, MR. CHAIR I WAS GONNA ADD IS THAT RILEY CREST IS, IS PRETTY SMALL NOW, BUT IT IS ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO BE UPGRADED TO A, A WIDER, UH, ROADWAY, 60 FEET. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON. 
          ITEM NUMBER FOUR, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU WANT THAT BRIEFED? ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR? OKAY, ITEM FIVE. 
          COMMISSIONER SIMS, JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF, PLEASE. 
          MR. CHAIR, I CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          MR. REJO, HAVE YOU BRIEFED US BEFORE? I CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          I KNOW I'VE SEEN YOU IN OTHER CONTEXTS. 
          UM, MAYBE NOT FOR, UH, ZONING CHANGE, BUT FOR OTHER CASE CODE AMENDMENTS. 
          YES. 
          WELL, THIS IS JACOB ROHAR, UH, PLANNER TWO ON THE CODE AMENDMENTS TEAM. 
          I'LL INTRODUCE HIM ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. 
          UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRIEF, BUT WE'LL DO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME SMALL QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          MR. MR. ROHO? GREAT. 
          YES. 
          WELCOME. 
          GLAD YOU'RE HERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I I WANT YOU TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS A CASE THAT WE HAVE HEARD BEFORE AND IT IS FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES THE SAME CASE EXCEPT FOR AN ADDITION, A CHANGE IN THE TIME LIMIT ON THE SUP. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          AND ARE YOU, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S DRIVING THE CHANGE IN THE, THE REQUESTED TIME? YES, THAT'S, UH, IT'S A FINANCIAL ISSUE. 
          THE COMMITMENT FROM THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO HAVE 15 YEARS INSTEAD OF 10 TO GET, UH, MORE FINANCIAL CONFIDENCE FROM THEIR FINANCE YEAR. 
          SO THEY CAME TO US AND THEY TOLD US, UH, WE'LL JUST, IT'S EASIER FOR US TO GET THIS DEAL DONE FOR, UH, IN A 15 YEAR SEP WITH AUTOMATIC RENEWAL OF FIVE YEARS. 
          SO THIS, IT'S A, IT'S A FINANCIAL ISSUE FOR THEM. 
          GREAT. 
          AND THE INTENDED USE OF THE SITE IS A, THIS IS A DRIVE, THIS IS A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE THROUGH SERVICES STARBUCKS. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE DEVELOPER INTENDS TO, TO BUILD. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT IS ALLOWED IN WWMU 12 WITH AN SEP. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, MR. CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONERS. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MR. ROHO? OH, NO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOOD MR. ROHO. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SIX THROUGH EIGHT ARE GONNA BE HELD. 
          I AGREE. 
          AGREE THAT THOSE NEED TO BE BRIEFED. 
          NO. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          NINE BEING HELD TILL SEPTEMBER, I ASSUME THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE BRIEFED IN LIGHT OF THE LONG. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM NUMBER 10, COMMISSIONER HALL, SORRY, MATING MYSELF. 
          DOES ITEM NUMBER 10, DO WE WANT A BRIEFING ON THAT ONE? NO, I INTEND TO LEAVE IT ON CONSENT. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          GREAT. 
          ITEM NUMBER 11. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW, BUT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN TAKEN UP OR NOTICED ON AN AGENDA, IT'S TOO LATE FOR THAT. 
          SO THERE WILL BE A MOTION TO DENY IT WITHOUT PREJUDICE WITH THE APPLICANT'S CONSENT TO THAT. 
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ITEM NUMBER 12. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DO WE NEED A BRIEFING THERE? UH, YES, MR. CHAIR. 
          GREAT. 
          WELL BACK TO YOU MR. ROJO. 
          ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS COMING OFF CONSENT. 
          DID YOU OFF CONSENT NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER 6, 7, 8, AND NINE. 
          SO THAT LEAVES AT THE MOMENT, THREE, FIVE AND 10? NO, I THOUGHT MINE WAS COMING OFF. 
          I WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN DONE THAT. 
          EXERCISE. 
          UH, WE'RE GONNA BRIEF THAT CASE ENDING IN OH FOUR TWO. 
          UH, THE POWERPOINT SHOULD BE THERE IN THE FOLDER AND THEN YOU'LL OPEN THE WEBEX SCREEN AND HIT SHARE. 
          I'M SORRY, THIS IS FOR 1 0 7 OR IT'S A CASE ENDING IN OH FOUR TWO, ITEM NUMBER 12. 
          IT SHOULD BE IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS CASE Z DASH 26 DASH QUADRUPLE 0 42. 
          THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A ZONING CHANGE FOR, UH, FOR AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES. 
          HERE'S THE LOCATION MAP. 
          IT IS IN COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT, THE AREA OF REQUEST, THE ZONING AND THE LAND USE. 
          UM, HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. 
          UM, INITIALLY THE APPLICANT REQUESTED, UM, INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH. 
          UM, AFTER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, IT WOULD DETERMINE THAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT COULD STILL BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH A LESS INTENSIVE ZONING DISTRICT, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          UM, AND THEY AGREED TO IT. 
          THEY VOLUNTEERED TO IT, AND THE APPLICANT WANTS TO DEVELOP FOUR WAREHOUSES, APPROXIMATELY 10,000 SQUARE FEET EACH. 
          HERE'S SOME PHOTOS FROM THE SITE VISIT, LOOKING NORTH, LOOKING ONSITE, SOME SITE VISIT SURROUNDING PHOTOS LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING EAST. 
          UM, HERE ARE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR AGRICULTURAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. 
          UM, AFTER DISCUSSING WITH THE LONG-TERM LONG RANGE PLANNING TEAM, UM, IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT A MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE TYPE WOULD BE, UM, UH, FLEX COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THIS AREA ALREADY HAS A, A CORRIDOR THAT HAS A LOT OF WAREHOUSING IN THIS, UH, WOULD JUST BE MORE APPROPRIATE. 
          UM, THIS IS CONFIRMED WITH THE, THIS LONG RANGE PLANNING TEAM. 
          UM, STAFF ANALYSIS IS THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ECONOMIC GOALS OF THE AREA AND DOES FIT THE CONTEXT OF THE AREA. 
          THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF WAREHOUSING, UM, AND IT, IT FITS AND THERE'S, UH, ANOTHER CASE JUST NORTH OF THIS THAT WILL ALSO BE MORE WAREHOUSING. 
          SO, SO IT FITS THE ZONING CHANGE, FITS THE, UH, LONG RANGE GOALS OF THIS AREA. 
          AND MY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, APPROVAL. 
          AND I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS MR. FRANKLIN? UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          UH, MY QUESTION IS REGARDING THE, THE STAFF, UM, DECISION TO, TO 
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DECIDE LIKE UNILATERALLY THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FLEX COMMERCIAL VERSUS REGIONAL OPEN SPACE. 
          NOW, HOW DID YOU ALL COME TO THE CONCLUSION? UH, WAS IT BASED ON, UH, THE COMMUNITY INPUT THAT WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE TWO YEAR PROCESS? OR WAS IT SOMETHING INTERNALLY WHERE YOU ALL JUST FELT THAT FLEX COMMERCIAL WORKS BETTER, UH, FOR THIS AREA THAN ANYTHING ELSE? IF I, IF I MAY. 
          YEAH, THIS IS, IT'S KIND OF A, A FUNNY THING, UM, THAT HAS COME UP A COUPLE TIMES RECENTLY, UH, NOT JUST DOWN HERE, BUT IN SOME OTHER PLACES WHERE THERE WERE SOME PLACE TYPES THAT WERE PUT DOWN. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM WERE PUT DOWN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OF A, A BLANKET PROCESS AND NOT EXTREMELY DETAILED PARCEL BY PARCEL IN SOME OF OUR, UM, UH, BROADER AREAS. 
          LEMME SEE. 
          AND SO PART OF THIS HAS BEEN IN, THIS WAS PART OF WHAT IS STATED IN THE REPORT IS IN DISCUSSION WITH OUR LONG RANGE TEAM THAT PRIMARILY WORKED ON FORWARD DALLAS. 
          THIS CASE WOULD NOT CHANGE THAT. 
          UM, BUT IT IS SORT OF A, A SUGGESTION THAT WHEN WE DO A ROUND OF THESE, WHICH I THINK THAT THE LONG RANGE TEAM WILL LOOK AT, UH, PERIODICALLY UPDATING AND TWEAKING FOR ANALYSIS PLACE TYPES, NOT NECESSARILY AS AREAS CHANGE, BUT AS THEY IDENTIFY THINGS THAT WE MIGHT CATEGORIZE AS ERRORS, UM, ALONG THE WAY. 
          UM, THIS SIGN IS ON IS, EXCUSE ME, DESIGNATED REGIONAL OPEN SPACE. 
          THERE ARE SOME OTHER ONES, UM, IN SOME COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE BLANKET PROCESS WERE DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL, LIKE ON MAJOR STREETS, BUT YET THERE'S OWN COMMERCIAL KIND OF OVERSIGHTS I GUESS YOU COULD SAY. 
          UH, THOSE WERE SOME OTHER CASES IN THE PAST. 
          OH. 
          TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, DETAILED WITH REGIONAL OPEN SPACE. 
          UM, AND, AND AGAIN, MOST OF THIS GUIDANCE COMES FROM OUR LONG RANGE TEAM. 
          UM, REGIONAL OPEN SPACE IS SOMETHING THAT LEGALLY IS BEST FOR US NOT TO APPLY TO PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          UM, IT IS IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD, THAT SOMETHING IS A REGIONAL OPEN SPACE IF WE DON'T INTEND TO MAKE IT, UM, AN OPEN SPACE PURCHASE IT AS PARKLAND A DEDICATED AS SUCH. 
          UM, SO IT IS NOT BEST FOR US TO, TO DESIGNATE PRIVATE PROPERTY AS AS REGIONAL OPEN SPACE. 
          THERE ARE OTHER PLACE TYPES THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED. 
          I'M SURE THAT IF WHEN THEY GO THROUGH A ROUND OF TWEAKS, UM, TO PARCEL BY PARCEL ADJUST THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL COME THROUGH THIS BODY AND THEY CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION CAN BE HAD AND THERE THERE CAN BE SOME INPUT AND COMMUNITY, UM, INPUT AT THAT TIME. 
          UM, SO THE SUGGESTION IN THE REPORT THAT OF THE MORE APPROPRIATE PLACE TYPE FOR THE SITE IS FLEX COMMERCIAL IS, IS A RECOMMEND IS IS SOMETHING OF A RECOMMENDATION AND SIGNAL SORT OF A FUTURE RECOMMENDATION. 
          IT'S NOT STRICTLY, UM, BINDING BY ANY MEANS TODAY, BUT I THINK IT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE WOULD GO IF WE HAD, UM, THAT ADJUSTMENT IN, IN, IN FRONT OF US TODAY. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT WAS, UM, BROUGHT TOGETHER WITH OUR TEAM, OUR, OUR LONG RANGE TEAM WITH THE THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY SHOULD NOT HAVE PRIVATE LAND THAT IS DESIGNATED REGIONAL OPEN SPACE. 
          SO THAT'S MY LONG WINDED ANSWER. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THAT, UH, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          UH, IN THIS CASE. 
          SO YOU ALL CONSIDERED IT AS FLEX COMMERCIAL, BUT ALSO WITH THE CONSIDERATION AS UM, AS, AS A SECONDARY PLACE TYPE AND CORRECT FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL? WELL, UM, SO NEARBY PLACE TYPES NEARBY, WE'RE, WE'RE IN A BLOCK OF REGIONAL OPEN SPACE HERE. 
          SOME OF THAT IS PRIVATE LAND. 
          UH, SOME OF THAT IS PUBLIC LAND. 
          UH, EVERYTHING ACTUALLY EAST OF THE, UM, IS IT THE RAILROAD THERE? YEAH. 
          IS DESIGNATED REGIONAL OPEN SPACE AND A LOT OF THAT IS PRIVATE LAND. 
          EVERYTHING WEST OF THERE IS IS THE PLACE TYPE LOGISTICS INDUSTRIAL PARK. 
          UH, I GUESS I THINK THAT THE THOUGHT WAS FLEX COMMERCIAL. 
          UH, WE KNOW THERE'S RESIDENTIAL FURTHER EAST, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          UM, AND FLEX COMMERCIAL IS SORT OF A STEP DOWN FROM THE LOGISTICS INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT IS ACROSS A RAILROAD. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE WENT IN THAT DIRECTION WITH THE THINKING, WHICH AGAIN, IS NOT A FINAL DECISION OF ANY BY ANY MEANS, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A FRAMEWORK THROUGH WHICH WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT. 
          UM, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL IS NOT A, NOT A PLACE TYPE. 
          THE INDUSTRIAL PLACE TYPES GENERALLY ARE FLEX COMMERCIAL THAT THE LIGHTEST KIND OF PUSHING INDUSTRIAL, UH, INDUSTRIAL HUB AND IN LOGISTICS INDUSTRIAL PARK. 
          THAT'S NOT A GRADIENT NECESSARILY. 
          THEY'RE KIND OF DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS. 
          BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE, UM, INDUSTRIAL ISH, UM, PLACE 
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TYPES. 
          AND THE REASON WHY I, I ASKED THE QUESTION, UM, LEMME BRING IT BACK UP TO, FOR DALLAS 2.0, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SEEM THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UH, WAS CONTEMPLATED UNDER THE PLACE TYPE OF FLEX COMMERCIAL . 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS ADJACENT TO OUR INLAND PORT AND WHY YOU WOULD COME TO THAT CONCLUSION. 
          BUT THIS IS A, A VERY OPEN AREA AND SO WHATEVER WE DO IN IN THIS SPOT WILL CREATE GRAVITY FOR WHAT'S TO COME UNDER. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          I'M CHECKING FOR DALLAS ONCE MORE. 
          YEAH. 
          LIGHT, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, UM, IS A, IS A SECONDARY USE IN THE PLACE TYPE, LIKE SECONDARY USE IS BEING ACCEPTABLE IN SOME SCENARIOS OR ARE WITH CONDITIONS ON THEM OR CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, BUT NOT EVERY SINGLE SCENARIO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND WHAT CONSIDERATIONS WERE GIVEN TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE NORTH OF THIS SITE? I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS, THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ISN'T CITY OF DALLAS, BUT, UH, AS A, AS STAFF, DO YOU ALL CONSIDER WHETHER THERE'S RESIDENCE HOMES THAT MAY BELONG TO A DIFFERENT CITY BUT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING REQUESTED TO BE REZONED? UH, I DID NOT GIVE ANY CONSIDERATION TO THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST BECAUSE IT IS HUTCHINS. 
          UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT I CONSIDERED JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE A DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITY, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          I WAS REFERRING TO THE, IT'S TO THE NORTH TO THE, IT'S ABOUT AS YOU DRIVE, IT'S ABOUT 45 SECONDS NORTH OF THAT. 
          UM, I THINK THE WHOLE AREA IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE WAREHOUSING AND IT JUST WENT ALONG WITH IT. 
          AND THERE IS A, A SECOND, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER ZONING CASE IN THIS AREA, UH, THAT IS ALSO TO THE NORTH THAT IS ALSO BECOMING, UM, WAREHOUSING. 
          AND IT WAS JUST, IT, IT FELT, UH, IT, MY ANALYSIS AS IT WAS CONTEXTUAL AND SENSITIVE TO THE AREA THAT THIS IS ALL BEING WAREHOUSING, THIS IS ALL BECOMING WAREHOUSING A LOGISTICAL HUB EVEN TO THE NORTH. 
          AND, AND I'LL REFRESH MYSELF ON THE STATUS OF THAT OTHER CASE THAT YOU, YOU MAY REMEMBER, UM, WITH, UH, A DIFFERENT APPLICANT, BUT IT'S, IT'S NEARBY. 
          IT ACTUALLY HAS THIS SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE IN THE PLACE TYPE IS, UM, MAYBE A LITTLE OUT OF STEP WITH, UM, THE THOUGHT PROCESS HERE. 
          AND THAT ONE IS Z 2 5 0 0 2 2 9. 
          UM, I THINK IT CAME IN AS A PD, CORRECT. 
          SO I, I WAS JUST ASKING THE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DO HAVE SEVERAL APPLICANTS IN THIS AREA AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CONSISTENT LAND USE STRATEGY IF WE PUT IN THE TIME TO PUT IN THE EFFORT TO DOCUMENT BEFORE DALLAS 2.0 AND IF WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY, WHAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT SO THAT IT CAN INFORM ME GOING FORWARD? A ABSOLUTELY, AND, AND I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON, ON WHEN THEY MAY WANT TO DO SOME FOR DALLAS, UH, ADJUSTMENTS. 
          UM, BUT I, I THINK THEY WILL TRY AND ESPECIALLY LOOK AT THESE, ESPECIALLY I THINK IT'S GONNA BE DATA DRIVEN TO A DEGREE WHERE WE'VE HAD ZONING CASES THAT ARE NOT ONE FOR ONE WITH THE PLACE TYPE. 
          UM, SO I WOULD IMAGINE A PLACE LIKE THIS IS KIND OF LIKE, OH, WE'RE GONNA PUT A, A HEAVY FOCUS ON THIS. 
          I THINK IT CAN BE A COORDINATED DISCUSSION AND THEY SHOULD LOOK AT IT AS A, A BROAD AREA BECAUSE I THINK THIS AREA IS MAJORITY PRIVATE LAND OR AT LEAST SOUTH OF, UM, SOUTH OF CLEVELAND I THINK IS PRI PRIMARILY PRIVATE LAND. 
          UM, I KNOW THERE'S A CREEK AND THEN MAYBE SOME PRIVATE, UH, PUBLIC LAND. 
          BUT, UM, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THIS WOULD BE A, A FOCUS, UM, IN THAT DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          AND I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN'S ASKING THE QUESTIONS I HAD, I DON'T RECALL SEEING A CASE REPORT WHERE STAFF MADE A DETERMINATION OF A CHANGE TO THE, FOR DALLAS LAND USE MAP, UM, THE WAY IT WAS STATED HERE. 
          SO I THINK IT JUST MAY, UM, SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S OTHER DISCUSSIONS GOING ON. 
          I RECALL FROM OTHER SURROUNDING, UM, CASES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THIS BODY THAT THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION OF FOCUSING THE WAREHOUSE USES WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY EXISTING EITHER THROUGH EXISTING ZONING OR EXISTING AREA PLANS. 
          AND I DIDN'T SEE THOSE 
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REFERENCED IN THIS DOCUMENT. 
          HAS THERE BEEN ANY, WAS THERE CONSIDERATION? AND IT MAY BE, I'M TRYING TO PULL UP THE LARGER MAP AND I WILL APOLOGIZE. 
          I HAVE A VERY SLOW CONNECTION SO I CAN'T GET IT TO COME UP, BUT THAT WAS REALLY MY UNDERLYING QUESTION IS THIS SEEMS LIKE A, UM, EXPANSION OF WHERE WAREHOUSE USES ARE BEING CONSIDERED AND WE JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAD BEEN EVALUATED WITH COMMUNITY INPUT, OTHER AREA PLANS, AS YOU ALL ARE MENTIONING IN THE LARGER CONTEXT, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY COMMUNITY PLANS FOR THIS AREA. 
          UM, I COULD DO MORE RESEARCH ON THAT AND BRING THAT TOWARDS YOU. 
          UH, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. 
          I AM, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SPEAK WITH THE LONG RANGE TEAM AND ASK THEM ARE THERE ANY, UM, PLANS TO GO TO THIS PART OF THE CITY FOR, UM, LONG RANGE PLANNING. 
          AND I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT KIND OF SPEAKS TO, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL INTENSITY AND MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY LEAVING THE AREA AS AS AG, IS THAT NOT DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SITE? BECAUSE I THINK LANCASTER HUTCHINS IS A SPLIT ROAD BETWEEN THE OTHER CITY AND, AND DALLAS, CORRECT. 
          UM, TO THE WEST WHERE, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED UNNAMED STREET, BUT THIS IS ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO BE AT MORE OF A COMMUNITY COLLECTOR SCALE. 
          AND THE SAME IS TRUE OF, UH, WHITT ROAD FURTHER SOUTH. 
          SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S TO, TO A DEGREE SOME COORDINATION OF, UM, SORT OF UPGRADING FACILITIES, UM, THAT DO CONNECT TO THE INTERMODAL INTER INLAND PORT. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, SO I, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THERE IN TERMS OF THAT. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE, THOSE SORTS OF ROAD UPGRADES BEING CONTEMPLATED ARE, UM, NECESSARILY A SIGNAL THAT, UM, STRICTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT AGRICULTURAL USES HERE FOREVER. 
          UH, I DO THINK THAT UNNAMED ROAD DOES HAVE A NAME I DID SPEAK WITH, UH, OUR ENGINEERING TEAM. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT YES, THERE ARE PLANS TO UPGRADE THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, I, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO MY EMAILS AND LOOK, BUT I, I FORGOT THE NAME OF IT. 
          WELL, FOLLOWING UP ON THE, UM, OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THERE BEING RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF, WELL I SAY DIRECTLY BUT NORTH OF, OF THE SITE FLEX COMMERCIAL, AS I RECALL, THE DISCUSSION WAS REALLY TRYING TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM HEAVIER INDUSTRIAL USES. 
          AND SO THAT WAS MY OTHER REAL QUESTION IS HOW THAT DESIGNATION VERSUS SOMETHING THAT EITHER INTRODUCED RESIDENTIAL, INTRODUCED OTHER, OTHER USES. 
          I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, AG IS, I'VE ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER FOR DETERMINING WHAT THE FUTURE ZONING OR, OR LAND USE MIGHT BE. 
          I SHOULDN'T SAY ZONING LAND USE. 
          UM, BUT A AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW, HOW IT'S GOING THAT DIRECTION VERSUS BEING MORE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY SUPPORTING. 
          YES, THAT INTENSITY WAS THOUGHT OF, AND THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED TO THE, TO THE DEVELOPER TO USE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL INSTEAD OF INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH BECAUSE IT IS A HEAVIER, MORE INTENSE ZONING. 
          WE ARE HAVING THIS COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND ASKING FOR LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL OR OR LESS INTENSIVE, UH, ZONING. 
          WE, WE, WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION LETTING THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS A SOMEWHAT, UM, AGRICULTURAL, RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          SO WE THOUGHT THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WOULD BE SENSITIVE AND LESS INTENSE THAN INDUSTRIAL RESEARCH. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PERFECT. 
          AND THEN THE OTHER THING I I'D ADD IS, UH, I THINK WE'RE MAYBE TALKING TO A DEGREE A QUESTION TO SCALE HERE. 
          THIS IS A PRETTY SMALL SITE RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE OTHER PARCELS IN THE AREA. 
          SO WITH IT BEING SIZE THAT IT IS, UH, WHICH IS ONLY THREE ACRES, THEY'D BE DOING A PRETTY SMALL WAREHOUSE. 
          IT WOULD BE A, A GOOD DEGREE DIFFERENT THAN THE WAREHOUSES AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. 
          YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN OUR CODE BETWEEN DISTRIBUTION CENTERS AND WAREHOUSES AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, BUT EXCEPT FOR SCALE WHEN YOU GO SEE THEM ON THE GROUND. 
          AND I THINK THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE THAT ACROSS ALL RAILROAD TRACKS WE HAVE LOGISTICS INDUSTRIAL PARK, RIGHT? UM, AND THAT'S WHERE THE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS ARE. 
          UM, FLEX COMMERCIAL IN OUR OPINION DOES KIND OF MAKE MORE SENSE FOR, AGAIN, A SMALL SCALE, SMALL SCALE WAREHOUSE. 
          THE, THE EXAMPLES OF FLEX COMMERCIAL ARE LIKE THE PLANO ROAD CORRIDOR, REINHARDT, AND, UM, I 45, UH, LI WOULD ALLOW, I MEAN, AS IT DOES AG UH, L LI WOULD ALLOW SOME RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS ALSO CONSIDERED IN INFL COMMERCIAL AS WELL, WHEREAS WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY CAME IN, THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT IR, UM, AND WE, WE PUSHED THEM TOWARDS A, A LIE, WHICH THEY AGREED, 
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COMMISSIONER WHEELER, UM, LISTEN TO EVERYONE'S COMMENTS. 
          IS THERE, IS THERE A CONSIDERATION? UM, BECAUSE OF, UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER, UM, FRANKLIN ASKED THE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES TO, TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THAT AREA TOGETHER. 
          UM, UM, SINCE THERE ARE OTHER CA HE, HE DOES HAVE CASES THAT'S COMING UP IN THIS AREA AND THAT WE ARE NOTING EVEN THOUGH THAT THESE PLACES ARE NOT WITHIN OUR CITY, BUT THEY ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY AND THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER, THAT PORT DOESN'T JUST INCLUDE JUST DALLAS, IT INCLUDES TWO OTHER CITIES. 
          AND HOW DO WE LOOK AT HAVING THAT CONVERSATION AND THAT WAY WE CAN LOOK AT HOW OTHER CASES THAT'S COMING BEFORE US, UM, UM, COULD GO FORWARD. 
          YEAH, I I WILL SAY AT THIS TIME, NO ONE HAS REACHED OUT TO US FROM, UM, CITY OF HUTCHINS. 
          UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION. 
          I THINK IT, IT'S, IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          UM, THOUGH I, I KNOW USUALLY WE, WE SORT OF TRY AND KEEP WITHIN OUR TOOLS, BUT THAT IS A, A COORDINATION THAT COULD OCCUR. 
          I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AT SOME POINT OF CONSIDERATION FROM OUR CITY TO REACH OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A FEW. 
          I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND, IS THIS IN THE INLAND PORT, NEAR THE INLAND PORT? WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE SITE AND THE INLAND PORT? UH, I THINK NEAR IS A RELATIVE TERM, YES. 
          BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE TOO INTENSE FOR THE AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THERE'S, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, AND I, AND I, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S THE QUESTION OF, OF INTENSITY. 
          I'M JUST ASKING ABOUT THE SITE'S RELATIONSHIPS TO THE INLAND PORT. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE ME, TO ME IT IS IN THE INLAND PORT BOUNDARY. 
          I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO MAKE SURE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS CORRECT. 
          SO IF YOU NEED TO CHECK THAT, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN NOW AND THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          YEAH, AND, AND I'M, I'M MEASURED LIKE IF YOU GO FROM TO THE REAL CENTER, IT'S LIKE LESS THAN A A MILE, BUT YOU KNOW, THE INLAND PORT IS KIND OF A, A BROADER CONCEPTUAL CONCEPT AND I'D SAY IT'S PART OF THAT, THAT BROADER COMPLEX OF, UM, INDUSTRIAL INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND I DO SEE TO THE WEST AND THE SOUTH, THERE DEFINITELY IS A LOT OF WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION CENTER TO THE NORTH. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SUBDIVISION COMING IN, WHICH I THINK IS IN WILMER. 
          I'M SORRY, HUTCHINS, I'M, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I GOT MY BOOMER, MY HUTCHINS CONFUSED. 
          AND THEN THERE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LOTS OF SUBDIVISIONS IN, IN HUTCHINS AS WELL. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO ALLOW THIS ZONING CHANGE, HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT A TRANSITION FROM THE DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE USES TO, UM, MORE RESIDENTIAL OR, OR AG USES? HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THAT? UM, NOT ALLOW TO INTENT OF A ZONING AND MAKE SURE THAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE NOT ENCROACHING TOO MUCH INTO SUBDIVISIONS OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          UM, AND IN MY OPINION, THIS WAS LIGHT AND THERE WAS NOT TOO MUCH OF A NUISANCE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ARE IN THE VICINITY. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, TO GO BACK TO THE HUTCHINS QUESTIONS, I WOULD'VE TO GO BACK AND DO RESEARCH WHAT OUR STANDARD STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES ARE FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT BORDERS ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO ONE OF MY SUPERVISORS AND SEE, SEE WHAT THEY THINK. 
          I, I AM NOT CAUGHT UP ON WHAT WE CONSIDER FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          AND, AND I'LL ADD THE, THE KIND OF FUNNY THING HAHA, UM, IS PD 7 61, THE DALLAS LOGISTICS PORT SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT, THE PD CREATED GENERALLY TO ACCOMMODATE THE, UM, THE INLAND PORT OR THE DALLAS PORTION THEREOF. 
          IT'S KIND OF, KIND OF SPANS BOTH SIDES OF THE RAILROAD, THE CREEK, AND YOU GOT HALF OF THAT PD IS OVER IN THE, UM, WHAT PLACE TYPE IS IT? THE INDUS THE LOGISTICS INDUSTRIAL PARK, AND HALF OF IT IS OVER HERE IN THE REGIONAL, UM, UH, AND OPEN SPACE AREA. 
          UM, WE COULD HAVE CONSIDERED ADDING IT TO PD 7 61, WHICH IS KIND OF A, UM, ACCEPTED FRAMEWORK FOR ALLOWING SMALLER SCALE, UM, OR YOU KNOW, NOT SMALLER SCALE , BUT UM, SORT OF, UH, MANAGED, UM, INDUSTRIAL USES WITHIN, UH, WITHIN THAT PD. 
          UH, IT'S 
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NOT CONTIGUOUS, SO WE FELT A LITTLE BIT, UM, A LITTLE ANTSY TO UH, APPROVE IT THAT WAY. 
          I THINK GENERALLY THAT DISTRICT FOR THE MOST PART DOES WORK VERY SIMILARLY TO PD 7 61, OR, OR LI DOES WORK VERY SIMILAR TO PD 7 61 AND IT, THAT PD DOES GO AS FAR AS LANCASTER HUTCHINS ROAD AND THEN IT'S ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT 500 FEET DOWN DOWN LANCASTER HUTCHINS FROM THERE. 
          UM, SO I I, I DON'T HAVE TOO MANY CONCERNS WITH THIS BEING A SMALL PARCEL OF THIS, UM, BEING, UM, ABLE TO DO WAREHOUSE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IT'S, IT'S WOULD BE UNLIKELY OR TO BE A LARGE DISTRIBUTION CENTER THREE WITH THE THREE ACRES THAT THEY'VE GOT, AND THEN THE, THE STANDARDS THAT APPLY ON TOP OF THAT, THAT, THAT LI LIMITS THEM WITH IN INCLUDING PROXIMITY SLOPE, UH, THAT EMANATES FROM ALL OF THEIR BOUNDARIES, I THINK THAT'S GONNA, THAT'S GONNA DO A LOT TO, TO LIMIT WHAT THEY CAN DO IN, IN A KIND OF NATURAL WAY THAT THE CODE THAT OUR CODE DOES. 
          UM, SO I'LL LEAVE IT WITH THAT. 
          AND ASSUMING WE APPROVE THIS CASE TODAY, WHICH WE MAY DO, WE MAY NOT DO, IT DOESN'T SET A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE ZONING CASES IN THE AREA. 
          RIGHT. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE A CASE BY CASE SCENARIO. 
          OKAY. 
          IT WOULD, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE END ALL BE ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          IN IN PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WERE TO BE ANOTHER CASE THAT COMES IN TO THE NORTH OF THIS, BETWEEN THIS SITE AND THE, THE SUBDIVISIONS, THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS INVOLVED AND WHETHER WE WOULD IMPROVE ANOTHER APPROVE, ANOTHER LIGHT. 
          YES. 
          INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. 
          YES. 
          UM, LAST QUESTION IS JUST GOING BACK TO THE PLACE TYPE, I THINK YOU REFERENCED IT THAT SOME OF THE LAND THAT'S ZONE REGIONAL OPEN SPACE IS PUBLICLY OWNED. 
          AND IF I MISSED THIS, I'M SORRY. 
          LIKE WHAT, WHAT LAND IS PUBLICLY OWNED AND WHAT, WHAT IS THAT LAND USED FOR? IS IT A PARK OR A CITY OR COUNTY RECREATIONAL FACILITY? WHAT'S THE GENESIS FOR, FOR THIS BEING? IS THERE PUBLIC PROPERTY? THAT'S THE GENESIS FOR THIS BEING REGIONAL OPEN SPACE ON THE PLACE TYPES MAP. 
          UNLESS YOU CAUGHT HONEY, WE MAY NEED TO DO FURTHER RESEARCH UNLESS YOU KNOW OF I WOULD, I WOULD NEED TO DO FURTHER RESEARCH. 
          UH, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN ONLY SPEAK ON THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS SITE. 
          UM, I WILL BRING THAT TO YOU. 
          I DON'T, YEAH, UH, I ONLY KNOW OF THE SITES WHAT, WHAT THE SITE TOUCHES AND, AND ALL OF THAT IS PRIVATE OR ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY. 
          UM, I, I NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE PAINTED, I FORGET HOW MANY SQUARE MILES ARE IN THE CITY WITH A PLACE TYPE BRUSH DURING THE FORWARD DALLAS PROCESS. 
          SO I'M NOT EXPECTING EVERYONE TO HAVE, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THAT. 
          THEY COMMITTED TO MEMORY. 
          SO YEAH, PLEASE DO BRING THAT BACK IF YOU HAVE YES FOR PUBLIC HEARING THIS AFTERNOON. 
          I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR THAT. 
          YES. 
          ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CASE NUMBER THIRTEEN'S GOING TO BE HELD. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT? DID YOU SAY SEVENTH I CONFUSING THINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          AUGUST 6TH. 
          OKAY. 
          EIGHT, SIX. 
          GREAT. 
          AND UH, NUMBER 14, QUESTION. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE LITERALLY RIGHT NOW, BUT BY THE HEARING, IF YOU HAVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR US TO NOTIFY IN ANY OTHER WAY, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY HELP WITH THAT. 
          YES, I'M IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT. 
          WE'LL SEE WHAT HE SAYS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ITEM NUMBER 14. 
          I'LL MAKE THE SAME ANNOUNCEMENT THAT I MADE AT THE START OF THE MEETING. 
          IF ANYONE'S HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 14, WHICH IS Z 26 0 0 0 0 0 7, WHICH IS THE PRESTON ROYAL ZONING CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE CASE IS GOING TO BE RENO, THE COMMISSION WILL NOT BE HEARING THE CASE TODAY. 
          ALRIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR ZONING PORTION OF OUR DOCKET AND THE REST OF THE DOCKET IS SUBDIVISION, SO WE WILL NOT BE BRIEFING THAT. 
          IT IS 11:47 AM THAT CONCLUDES THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          WE WILL BE BACK AT 1230 FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ALRIGHT, 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          WE ARE ABOUT TO GET STARTED, SO IF EVERYONE COULD PLEASE TAKE THEIR SEATS. 
          IT IS JUNE 25TH, 2026 AT 12:34 PM AND THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION. 
          MS. LOPEZ, CAN WE START OFF WITH THE ROLL CALL PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 
          DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER SIMS. I'M HERE. 
          DISTRICT TWO. 
          COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. 
          PRESENT DISTRICT THREE. 
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VICE CHAIR HERBERT, DISTRICT FOUR. 
          COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH. 
          HERE. 
          DISTRICT FIVE, COMMISSIONER SERRATO. 
          PRESENT? DISTRICT SIX. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          COMMISSIONER WILLIAM REAGAN. 
          PRESENT. 
          DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT? DISTRICT NINE. 
          COMMISSIONER KONS. 
          HERE. 
          DISTRICT 10. 
          COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. 
          PRESENT? DISTRICT 11. 
          COMMISSIONER COX? PRESENT DISTRICT 12. 
          COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. 
          PRESENT DISTRICT 13. 
          COMMISSIONER HALL HERE. 
          DISTRICT 14. 
          COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBEN, I'M HERE. 
          YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          JUST A COUPLE HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS AT THE START. 
          I DID WANT TO AGAIN EXTEND A WARM WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBER COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH IN DISTRICT FOUR. 
          HAPPY TO HAVE HER. 
          AND THEN 
          [14.
26-2200A
An application for a new planned development district for CR Community 
Retail District uses on property zoned CR Community Retail District and 
P(A) Parking District, on the south line of Royal Lane and the west line of 
Preston Road, north of Orchid Lane.]
I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT IF ANYONE'S HERE FOR ITEM 14, WHICH IS THE PRESTON ROSE ZONING CASE Z 26 0 0 0 0 0 7. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE CASE IS GOING TO BE RENO, THE COMMISSION WILL NOT BE HEARING THAT CASE TODAY. 
          A FEW OTHER HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. I SEE SOME REGULARS HERE AND PROBABLY SOME NEW FACES. 
          UM, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVEN'T JOINED US BEFORE, UM, WE GIVE, YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON EACH CASE BEFORE US. 
          UH, YOU COME DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE UP FRONT, WE START WITH THE APPLICANT OR SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT, THEN MOVE ON TO SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION. 
          THE FIGURES, OPPOSITION, THE APPLICANT DOES GET A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL. 
          AND TYPICALLY, UM, ON MOST CASES WE GIVE SPEAKERS THREE MINUTES PER K TO SPEAK. 
          UH, BUT WE DO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO ADJUST THAT TIME PERIOD. 
          UH, WHEN YOU DO SPEAK, PLEASE START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS SO WE HAVE A RECORD WHO'S COME TO SPEAK TO US AND THEN FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE YELLOW CARDS ON YOUR RIGHT, MY LEFT. 
          UH, FOR OUR RECORDS AS WELL, IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM OR ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA AND COPIES OF OUR AGENDA ARE AT THAT TABLE UP FRONT, KIND OF HIDDEN BEHIND THE CHAIR ON MY LEFT. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          WITH THAT, WE WILL GET INTO OUR AGENDA. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER 
          [APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
HALL, CAN WE START WITH A MOTION ON OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS MINUTES? YES. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          UH, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE JUNE 11TH, 2026 CPC MEETING AS REVISED AND POSTED ON JUNE 22ND, 2026. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER HALL FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER HOUSE, RIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION. 
          CARRIE, WE'LL 
          [1. 26-2187A An application for a minor amendment to the existing development plan on 
property zoned Subarea A and Subarea B within Planned Development 
District No. 1055 on the northwest line of South Belt Line Road, between 
Garden Grove Drive and Seagoville Road. ]
MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THIS IS ITEM NUMBER ONE, CASE MZ 2 5 0 0 0 2 0. 
          THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA A AND SUB AREA B WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 10 55 ON THE NORTHWEST LINE OF SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD BETWEEN GARDEN GROVE DRIVE AND SAGEVILLE ROAD. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL, UH, AS BRIEFED SPA, OPEN SPACE AND PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES WILL BE PROVIDED AT PERMITTING. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. SAHE, I SEE THAT THE APPLICANT MR. ED IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ONLINE. 
          IS HE THERE? OH, YOU'RE HERE IN PERSON. 
          UH, I'M HERE TO, UH, ANSWER ANY CONCERN. 
          UH, JUST THAT'S WHY I, SO THIS IS, UH, JUST IN BRIEF MR. ED, IF YOU COULD NAME, SEE IF YOU COULD HOLD ON FOR JUST ONE SECOND PLEASE. 
          YEAH, IF YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR CAMERA. 
          STATE LAW REQUIRES YOU TO HAVE A VIDEO FEED IN ORDER FOR US TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          USE CAMERA. 
          I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN, CAN YOU SEE ME? I SEE YOU. 
          PERFECT. 
          IF YOU START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, I HAVE TO GIVE IT OPEN THEN WE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THE CASE, UH, 1 0 5 5, UH, PD IS, UH, THE, IS A PD AMENDMENT WHICH WAS APPROVED UH, 2017. 
          SO WE ARE NOT REVISING ANY OF THE PD AMENDMENT REQUIREMENT, BUT AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE ENGINEERING REVIEW, WE FOUND THAT UH, THERE IS A CD ROAD WE HAVE TO DEDICATE BY SEPARATE INSTRUMENT. 
          SO WE REVISE THAT AND UH, AS A ROAD, UH, IT USED TO BE A, UH, MUTUAL ACCESS KIND OF THING AND THERE IS A THREE AND A HALF FEET RIGHT OF A DEDICATION REQUIRED ON BARE LAND ROAD. 
          SO WHICH HAS BEEN REVISED, THE POND SIZE, UH, HAS BEEN INCREASED, UH, BECAUSE UH, AFTER 
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WE DID THE ENGINEERING DESIGN, THEN WE FOUND THAT WE NEEDED A LITTLE BIGGER POND. 
          SO THIS MINOR AMENDMENT, WHICH IS RELATED TO THE ENGINEERING, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW FROM THE, UH, ORIGINAL, UH, PD SIDE PLAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CONCLUDING. 
          IF THERE'S ANYTHING, ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE KNOWN, I CAN EXPLAIN BETTER. 
          CAN YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? UH, SI ABED, UH, AND, UH, 4 4 4 0 LAFE LANE, COLLEYVILLE, TEXAS 7 6 0 3 4. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER ONE? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF THE MINOR AMENDMENT, MZ DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 0 2 0, UH, MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AS BRIEFED. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? UM, ONE CLARIFICATION FOR STAFF. 
          IS IT CORRECT THAT THE NOTE ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS TO READ, UM, AMENITIES IN THE OPEN SPACE TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE PD CONDITION? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          A MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ITEM NUMBER 
          [2.
26-2188A
An application for a Historic Overlay for the Mountain Creek Interurban 
Bridge (4585 W. Jefferson Boulevard), adjacent to property zoned R-7.5(A), 
for 
residential uses, along the south side of W. Jefferson Boulevard, 
between S. Westmoreland Road (to the east) and S. Cockrell Hill Road (to 
the west).]
TWO, GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THIS IS DR. 
          RHONDA DUNN SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF CITY STAFF. 
          THE CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 1 1. 
          THE REQUEST IS FOR AN APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR THE MOUNTAIN CREEK INTERURBAN BRIDGE CITED AT 45 85 WEST JEFFERSON BOULEVARD ADJACENT TO PROPERTY ZONED R DASH 7.5 SUBSECTION A FOR RESIDENTIAL USES ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEST JEFFERSON BOULEVARD BETWEEN SOUTH MORELAND L ROAD TO THE EAST AND SOUTH C**K ROW, HILL ROAD TO THE WEST. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO PRESERVATION CRITERIA. 
          LANDMARK COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU DR. DUNN. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SUPPORT, SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM TWO? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? I KNOW THERE'S ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ONLINE. 
          NOT ONLINE. 
          OKAY, WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR A MOTION. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 1 1. 
          I MOVE TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO PRESERVATION CRITERIA. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE 
          [Zoning Cases - Consent]
ON TO OUR ZONING CONSENT DOCKET. 
          THE WAY THAT A CONSENT, UH, AGENDA WORKS IS THAT ALL OF THE ITEMS WILL BE TAKEN UP AND APPROVED OF IN A SINGLE MOTION UNLESS ANY ITEM IS REMOVED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          AND IT RIGHT NOW IT CON IT ORIGINALLY WAS NOTICED FOR ITEMS THREE THROUGH 10. 
          HOWEVER, SEVERAL ITEMS HAVE BEEN PULLED AND WILL BE CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY RIGHT NOW THE ITEMS LEFT FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION ARE THREE, FIVE, AND 10. 
          UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT IS ON ANY ITEMS THREE, FIVE OR 10 THAT WOULD LIKE THEM CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY? AND I KNOW MR. UH, I THINK THERE'S A SPEAKER ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE SIGNED UP ONLINE TO SPEAK ON OPPOSITION FOR HAWKINS BROWN. 
          IS THAT INDIVIDUAL ONLINE? NOT ONLINE. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN WE WILL LEAVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON CONSENT. 
          MS. LEVY, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO READ THE CONSENT AGENDA IN. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          COMMISSIONERS ITEM NUMBER 3 2 6 2 1 8 9 A CASE NUMBER Z 2 5 2 2 3 IS AN APPLICATION FOR NSA NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICE DISTRICT. 
          IT'S ON PROPERTY ZONE R 10, A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF RILEY CREST DRIVE BETWEEN GARDEN GROVE DRIVE AND SEAVILLE ROAD STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL ITEM NUMBER 5 2 6 2 1 9 1 A. 
          CASE NUMBER Z 2 6 1 0 7 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 25 61 
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FOR A RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY ZONED SUBDISTRICT P PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 4 6 8, THE OAK CLIFF GATEWAY SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE WEST LINE OF SOUTH I 35 FREEWAY BETWEEN EAST EIGHTH STREET AND DALE STREET. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A 15 YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL RENEWALS FOR ADDITIONAL FIVE YEAR PERIODS SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. 
          ITEM NUMBER TEN TWO SIX TWO ONE NINE SIX. 
          A CASE NUMBER Z 2 68 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 10 60 ON THE NORTH LINE OF FOREST LANE BETWEEN QUINCY LANE AND NEWA DRIVE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU MS. LEVY. 
          IS THERE ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THREE, FIVE OR 10 ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY, NO SPEAKERS. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          IN THE MATTER OF THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THREE, FIVE, AND 10, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES BACK TO YOU 
          [4. 26-2190A An application for an amendment to Subdistrict 30 within Planned Development No. 193 Oak Lawn Special Purpose District, on the north corner of Reagan Street and Brown Street. ]
MS. LEVY FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          ITEM NUMBER 4 2 6 2 1 9 A CASE NUMBER Z 2 6 54 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SUBDISTRICT 30 WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 1 93 OAKLAWN SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE NORTH CORNER OF REAGAN STREET AND BROWN STREET. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND AMENDED CONDITIONS THERE ANY SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UH, DO YOU SEE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP ONLINE IN OPPOSITION? JD YATES. 
          OKAY, WE'LL GO HERE FOR MR. YATES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          MY NAME IS JD YATES. 
          I LIVE AT 27 11 BROCK MORTON. 
          UH, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE OAKLAWN NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS, WHICH IS WHY I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THAT THE SITE UNDER CONSIDERATION IN THIS APPLICATION IS THE FORMER HOME OF THE RESOURCE CENTER, WHICH WAS A NONPROFIT COMMUNITY HEALTH AND SUPPORT ORGANIZATION. 
          I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT CONTEXT AND IT'S WHY I'M HERE TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO ITS CONVERSION INTO WHAT AMOUNTS TO A PLAYGROUND FOR A PRIVILEGED, PRIVILEGED VIEW THAT WILL UNDOUBTEDLY EXACERBATE ALREADY CONGESTED PARKING WHILE OFFERING NEGLIGIBLE MATERIAL VALUE TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. 
          FOR YEARS, I'VE WATCHED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS CHARACTER BE SLOWLY ERODED BY UNCONSTRAINED INVESTOR FOCUSED DEVELOPMENT, UM, NOW POPULATED ALMOST ENTIRELY WITH UNAFFORDABLE CONDOS, UNAFFORDABLE APARTMENTS, AND INEXPLICABLY AN EMPTY IN OUR OFFICE BUILDING. 
          MANY OF THE FOLKS WHO'VE LIVED HERE FOR YEARS OR DECADES ARE RAPIDLY BEING PRICED OUT AND PUBLIC SERVICES ARE IN FULL RETREAT AS WE EMINENTLY LOSE BOTH OUR LIBRARY AND OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. 
          WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS IN THIS MOMENT IS PUBLIC SPACE, GREEN SPACE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND COMMUNITY RESOURCES. 
          WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NOT NEED IS A VENTURE CAPITAL FUNDED PRIVATE MEMBERS ONLY OVERPRICED NICHE SINGLE USE SPORTS FACILITY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION? OKAY, MR. KINGSTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z 26 DASH 0 0 0 5 4? I MOVE THAT WE, UM, KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS OVER FOR TWO WEEKS. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          TWO, TWO WEEKS. 
          WHEN IS OUR NEXT MEETING OF THE NEXT MEETING? MEETING? JULY 23. 
          OKAY. 
          7 23. 
          SO A MOTION TO HOLD IT TILL 7 23 BY COMMISSIONER KINGSTON. 
          SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CAMPTON. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? NO. 
          ANY OTHER, ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON THAT ITEM? OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ITEM 
          [6. 26-2192A An application for CR Community Retail District on property zoned A(A) Agricultural District and for A(A) Agricultural District on property zoned CR Community Retail District, on the south corner of Ravenview Road and S.  Beltline Road.]
NUMBER SIX, MR. AGUILERA. 
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GOOD MORNING. 
          UH, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION ASK AGUILERA. 
          UM, ITEM SIX IS AN APPLICATION FOR CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON A PROPERTY ZONE, AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, AND FOR AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON A PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE SOUTH, UH, CORNER OF RAVEN, R RAVEN VIEW ROAD, AND, UH, SOUTH BELTLINE ROAD. 
          THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU MR. AGUILAR. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM SIX? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, YOUR MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 8 2. 
          I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST THE SIXTH, 2026. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. 
          [7. 26-2193A An application for CS Commercial Service District on property zoned Planned Development District No. 241, on the southeast corner of Haymarket Road and C.F. Hawn Frwy.]
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS AN APPLICATION FOR A COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER, UH, 2 41 LOCATED ON THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF, UH, HIGH MARKET ROAD AND CF. 
          UH, HUNG, UH, FREEWAY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? I HAVE A PRESENTATION. 
          I DON'T, HOW DO I DO? DID YOU SHARE IT WITH STAFF? I DID YESTERDAY. 
          CAN YOU HELP HER GET THAT UP PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS BRYN STOTZ WITH POPE HARDWICK AT 500 WEST SEVENTH STREET, SUITE 600 IN FORT WORTH, TEXAS. 
          I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT PROGRESS LAND DEVELOPMENT REGARDING THE ZONING QUEST REQUEST. 
          UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1 0 6 0 0 CF HAN FREEWAY AND IS APPROXIMATELY 8.5 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED VACANT LAND. 
          THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER IS DAY SPRING MINISTRIES OF DALLAS INCORPORATED. 
          UM, THE CURRENT ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IS PD 2 41, WHICH IS CURRENTLY LIMITED TO OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE USES. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT SEEKS APPROVAL OF A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE FROM PD 2 41 TO COMMERCIAL SERVICES DISTRICT TO CONSTRUCT A TECHNICAL SCHOOL. 
          AND THE APPLICANT, UH, PROPOSES TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY IN TWO PHASES. 
          PHASE ONE INCLUDES THE ACADEMIC BUILDING ITSELF AND THE PARKING LOT. 
          UM, THE BUILDING WILL COVER APPROXIMATELY 53,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE PARKING LOT WILL BE 115 PARKING SPACES. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP THE BACK HALF OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          WE CALL THAT PHASE TWO, BUT HE IS, UM, UNSURE OR PLANS HAVE NOT BEEN FINALIZED FOR THAT YET, SO WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT'LL BE. 
          UM, AND THEN ARC LABS WELDING SCHOOL. 
          THAT IS THE PROPOSED, UM, WELDING SCHOOL TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          UM, IT IS A TECHNO TECHNICAL SCHOOL THAT OFFERS THE INDIVIDUALS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BEGIN OR REFINE THEIR TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE IN THE WELDING INDUSTRY. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS SEVEN BRANCHES, THREE IN TEXAS. 
          ONE IS CURRENTLY IN FORT WORTH. 
          UM, ARC LABS OFFERS DAYTIME SESSIONS, UM, FROM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7:00 AM TO 3:00 PM AND EVENING AND NIGHT SESSIONS. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO ABLE TO OFFER PART-TIME NIGHT CLASSES IF INDIVIDUALS ARE INTERESTED BASED ON APPLICATIONS AND ATTENDANCE AT OTHER BRANCHES. 
          WE ANTICIPATE 80 STUDENTS OR 80 STUDENTS AND 20 EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE DAY. 
          THE SCHOOL OFFERS THREE INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS DEPENDING ON CLASS SIZE AND HOUR REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT ALL INSTRUCTION TIME, WHICH INCLUDES SHOP TIME AND CLASSROOM TIME INCURS OCCURS ALL INDOORS. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE BELIEVE OUR APPLICATION ALIGNS WITH FOUR DALLAS 2.0, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN. 
          THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY MIXED USE PLACE TYPE, UH, WITH PRIMARY USES FOR THIS PLACE, TYPE BEING COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE. 
          AND FINALLY, THE APPLICANT JUST HOPES, UH, THAT THE 
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PROPOSED TECHNICAL SCHOOL WILL CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO THOSE IN THE DALLAS AREA AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDE A HIGH QUALITY EDUCATION TO THOSE SEEKING A CAREER IN THE WELDING INDUSTRY AND PROVIDE A PLACEMENT IN THE WORKFORCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT? SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 9 1? I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST THE SIXTH, 2026. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, DID, DID YOU HAVE ANY, DID YOU JUST WANT TO USE THAT TIME PERIOD TO HOLD AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS OR DID YOU WANT US TO RE ADVERTISE FOR ANYTHING AT THIS TIME? OR IS IT JUST ONGOING? UH, THE APPLICANT AND I, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, UM, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, UH, RE-NOTICE, RE NOTICING THIS AS A PD, UM, AND AMENDING IT, AMENDING THE EXISTING PD. 
          SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO INCLUDE RE-ADVERTISING FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT? I WILL AMEND MY MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          TO INCLUDE OR RE NOTICING THIS MATTER AS A PD AMENDMENT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 
          [8. 26-2194A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 1851 for the  sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise store or food store 3,500 square feet or less on property zoned CS Commercial Service District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the south line of C. F.  Hawn Frwy, west of Silverado Drive.]
EIGHT, MR. AGUILERA. 
          ITEM, UH, NUMBER EIGHT IS AN APPLICATION TO ADMIN TO A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. 
          UH, 1851 FOR THE SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE STORE FOOD STORE. 
          UH, UH, UH, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON A PROPERTY ZONE CS, UH, COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH LINE OF CF, UH, H UH, FREEWAY WEST OF SILVERADO DRIVE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU MR. AGUILERA. 
          IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM EIGHT? HELLO GUYS. 
          MY NAME IS JESSICA FINLEY. 
          OUR ADDRESS IS 1 1 8 1 0 CF HAN FREEWAY, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 5 3. 
          UM, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MARLOWE'S ENTERPRISES REPRESENTING THEM JUST HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTARY YOU GUYS MAY HAVE. 
          WE ARE A FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED IN VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN AT THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION FOR 50 YEARS COMING IN AUGUST, AND WE JUST WANT PERMISSION TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? MR. FRANKLIN, YOUR MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 9 5. 
          I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL AUGUST THE SIXTH, 2026. 
          OKAY. 
          DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES 
          [9. 26-2195A An application for a new subdistrict for specified non-residential uses within Planned Development No. 605, on the south line of Samuell Boulevard, east of Freestone Circle.]
ITEM NUMBER NINE, MR. BETA OUT. 
          CAN CAN YOU READ IT IN MR. AGUILERA? YES. 
          UM, APPLICATION, UH, NUMBER NINE IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUB-DISTRICT FOR SPEC, UH, FOR A SPECIFIED NON-RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 6 0 6, UH, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SAMUEL BOULEVARD, EAST OF UH, UH, FREESTONE CIRCLE. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU MR. AGUILAR. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OR OF ITEM NINE? IT'S, UH, 6 0 5 ACCORDING TO THE 6 0 5. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DID I SAY 6 0 6? MY APOLOGIES. 
          NO SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT. 
          ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER WHEELER REAGAN FOR A MOTION IN A MATTER OF ITEM Z DASH TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 5 9. 
          I'M MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, UM, UNTIL SEPTEMBER. 
          UM, THE FIR WHAT'S THE FIR THIRD, SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2026. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. 
          WE'RE FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND. 
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UM, ANY DISCUSSION? WE'RE KEEPING IT OPEN BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE SOME COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT SITS DIRECTLY NEXT TO THE NEW JOVIE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE RIGHT FIT FOR THAT AREA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SAYING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES 
          [11.
26-2197A
An application for new Specific Use Permit for a community service center 
on property zoned R-16(A) Single Family District, on the north line of LBJ 
Frwy, east of Copenhill Road.]
ITEM NUMBER 11. 
          ITEM NUMBER 11 IS Z 2 6 0 0 0 8 0 AND IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTER ON PROPERTY ZONE R 16, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTH WIND OF LBJ FREEWAY, EAST OF COPELAND HILL ROAD. 
          STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT ON ITEM 11? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY. 
          NO SPEAKERS. 
          MR. COX, YOUR MOTION? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 8 0. 
          I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DENY THE ZONING REQUEST WITHOUT PREJUDICE. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER COX, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER SIMS, ANY DISCUSSION? JUST MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS WAS DONE AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT, CORRECT? I'M SORRY, THE, THE, YES. 
          SO I'LL PROVIDE CLARIFICATION. 
          OH, SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU, I THOUGHT YOU DIDN'T HAVE COMMENT. 
          I THOUGHT WE WERE WAITING ON A SECOND. 
          OH NO. 
          YEAH, JUST TO CLARIFY, FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, THE APPLICANT DID APPROACH, UH, CITY STAFF, UM, ASKED TO WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. 
          THIS WAS AFTER A COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS WELL ATTENDED. 
          UM, AND UH, THE APPLICANT HAS DECIDED TO, TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 
          [12.
26-2198A
An application for LI Light Industrial District on property zoned A(A) 
Agricultural District, on the west line of Lancaster-Hutchins Road, north of 
Witt Road.]
12, UH, ITEM 12, UH, CASE Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 4 2. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED A AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE WEST LINE OF LANCASTER, HUTCHINS ROAD, NORTH OF WHITT ROAD. 
          STAFF. 
          RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU MR. ROHO. 
          UM, SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          UH, MY NAME IS YA ALMAN, UH, ADDRESS 4 0 6 K STREET, UH, KENDALE, TEXAS. 
          I'M HERE REGARDING ZONING REQUEST 4 2 2 4 9. 
          LANCASTER HUTCHINS ROAD Z 26 QUADRUPLE 0 4 2. 
          UM, OUR INTENT IS NOT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. 
          IT'S NOT A TRUCK STOP FOR ANY LIKE INLAND PORT STYLE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, IT'S INTENDED TO BE SMALL BAY FLEX FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES SUCH AS CONTRACTORS, SERVICE PROVIDERS, SHOWROOM OFFICE, INDUSTRIAL TENANTS. 
          WE HEARD Y'ALL'S CONCERNS DURING THE BRIEFING AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE WILLING TO VOLUNTARILY REMOVE SOME OF THOSE HIGH IMPACT USES, UH, THAT CREATE CONCERN. 
          UH, ALSO THIS IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF THE INLAND PORT. 
          UM, THE INLAND PORT PROJECTS FROM OUR OBSERVATIONS ARE TYPICALLY LARGER. 
          THEY'RE, UH, LOGISTICS HEAVY, UH, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING. 
          AND OUR PROJECT IS SMALLER SCALE, LOCALLY SERVING, UM, INTENDED TO HAVE MORE OF LIKE A SHOWROOM FEEL. 
          UH, THE BUILDINGS ARE NO MORE THAN 30 FEET HIGH AND THE BUILDINGS ARE 10,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          UM, AND THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR BUILDINGS. 
          LASTLY, WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT THIS FUNCTIONS AS SORT OF LIKE THE TRANSITION ZONE BETWEEN THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND THE CITY OF, UH, CITY OF HUTCHINS. 
          AND, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS CONTROLLED APPROACH WHERE WE LIMIT SOME OF THESE HIGH IMPACT USES CAN SUPPORT THIS TRANSITION A BIT BETTER. 
          UM, AND WE BELIEVE THAT'S RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN PROTECTING THE SURROUNDING AREA AND ALLOWING LIKE 
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VIABLE QUALITY COMMERCIAL PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE USES THAT WE'RE VOLUNTARILY REMOVING IS BUS OR RAIL TRANSIT, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE OR STORAGE FACILITY, COMMERCIAL CLEANING OR LAUNDRY PLANT MACHINE OR WELDING SHOP, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENTS, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE MANUFACTURING, GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE, UH, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE, A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS EXTENDED STAY, HOTEL OR MOTEL, HOTEL OR MOTEL, LODGING OR BOARDING HOUSE OVERNIGHT. 
          GENERAL PURPOSE SHELTER, ALTERNATIVE FINANCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS, FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WITHOUT DRIVE-IN WINDOW FINANCIAL INSTITUTION WITH DRIVE-IN WINDOW OR MOTOR VEHICLE, UH, FUELING STATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR Y'ALL SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I THINK THERE MAY BE ONE QUESTION THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MIGHT WANT ME TO CLARIFY. 
          I DUNNO IF I HEARD MAGIC WORDS. 
          ARE YOU VOLUNTEERING DEED RESTRICTIONS TO PROHIBIT THOSE USES? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT, THAT'S YOUR COMPLETE LIST AT THE MOMENT, YOU SAID? YES, SOME. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT ON ITEM NUMBER 12? SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION. 
          OKAY, WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 4 2. 
          I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE STATUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT. 
          I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT AFTER. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND, YOUR COMMENT. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN? UH, YES, I'VE BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH THE, THE APPLICANT, UH, ON THIS CASE. 
          UH, NOW AS IT CAME OUT IN, IN THE, THE BRIEFING EARLIER, THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS A TRANSITION ZONE FROM THE INLAND PORT TO MORE RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL, UH, MORE RESIDENTIAL AREA, UH, CONSIDERING THE COST MALL, THE PARCEL OF LANDIS THAT THEY'RE INTENDING TO OCCUPY AND THE NATURE OF THE, THE, THE BUSINESSES THAT WILL OCCUPY THE BUSINESS. 
          I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL OF THEIR SITES AROUND THE CITY. 
          THEY AREN'T VERY INTENSIVE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC AND, AND THEIR USES. 
          SO I THINK ON BALANCE IT WOULD WORK AS A TRANSITIONARY BUSINESS. 
          AND I HAD, THIS HAD BEEN SOMETHING WITH FIVE OR SIX ACRES, MY RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATION WOULD LIKELY HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. 
          UM, BUT THEY SEEM TO HAVE IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN GOOD STEWARDS OF THEIR CURRENT BUSINESSES AROUND THE FW AREA. 
          UH, AND THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT, UH, THEIR DEVELOPMENT. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MR. CARPENTER? I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO RESTRICTING MACHINERY, UH, ADDING TO THE DEED RESTRICTIONS, UH, PROHIBITION AGAINST MACHINERY, HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR TRUCK SALES AND SERVICES? IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES. 
          UM, THERE WAS A SLIGHT CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, BUT WE ARE WILLING TO ADD THAT TO THE, THE DEED RESTRICTIONS YOU ARE WILLING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          CAN WE JUST LIST OUT THOSE USES? YEAH, ONE MORE TIME SO EVERYONE HAS IT. 
          OH, MACHINERY HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR TRUCK SALES AND SERVICES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER WHEELER. 
          UM, BEFORE WE, BEFORE HE OFFERS THAT, UM, HE'S IN A TRANSITIONAL AREA IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, THE, THE CELLS OF THOSE, UM, OF, UH, HEAVY EQUIPMENT OR, UM, UM, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, HE'S IN A TRANSITION AREA THAT'S IN BETWEEN, IN BETWEEN THE, THE MORE HEAVIER USE OF INDUSTRIAL AND THIS AND THAT. 
          THAT'S A RESTRICTION THAT I THINK THAT THAT PUTS JUST TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN ON WHERE THE LOCATION THAT HE'S AT. 
          AND SO HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT USING, HE'S NOT USING, HE'S TAKING MOST OF THE HARMFUL USES, MORE HARMFUL, INTENSE USES OUT. 
          AND SO WE'RE ASKING HIM ALMOST IN A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT TO RESTRICT WAREHOUSE OR ANY TYPE OF INDUSTRIAL WITH THESE USES. 
          AND, AND SO I THINK THE, THE IMPLICATION OF WHAT EXACTLY WHAT HE'S ASKING ON THAT IS, IS A LITTLE TOO MUCH. 
          UM, I CAN, I, I SUPPORT MOST OF THE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT, UM, HE DID OFFER, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TRANSITION IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA, BUT IT'S STILL PRETTY MUCH AN INDUSTRIAL AREA IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
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WE HAVE, WE, WE, WE ARE, WE SET, UM, LOCATIONS FOR THESE TYPE OF INDUSTRIES AND THEN WE RESTRICT THEM AND THEN THEY CAN'T FIND ANOTHER LOCATION. 
          AND WE DO NEED SOME INDUSTRY AND THIS IS A PLACE THAT IS INDUSTRY. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL OR CLOSE ENOUGH TO HIGHER INDUSTRIAL AREAS. 
          AND SO WE CAN'T KEEP, KEEP ASKING OUR INDUSTRIES TO RESTRICT THEIR SELF TO THE FULLNESS. 
          SO I MEAN, I, I, I, THAT ONE IS THE ONE, EVERYTHING ELSE I KIND OF AGREE WITH, BUT THAT ONE IS JUST A LITTLE TOO INTENSE FOR A, HE STILL IS INDUSTRIAL. 
          UM, ANYONE ELSE? FIRST ROUND COMMENTS? I THINK I AM OKAY WITH THAT ADDITIONAL DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT'S VOLUNTEERED. 
          THERE'S STILL MANY LI USES THAT ARE ULTIMATELY YOU, I THINK WILL ALLOW THIS, THIS SITE TO SUCCEED AND THRIVE. 
          SO I THINK I AM OKAY WITH THE, THE FULL GAMUT. 
          UM, BUT OF COURSE OTHER PEOPLE MAY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS SECOND ROUND. 
          MR. CARPENTER? NO, I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE THE, YOU KNOW, SINCE I HAVE A GREAT MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE INDUSTRIAL HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES A ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE USES THAT, UM, CAN END UP BEING THE MOST IMPACTFUL. 
          YOU CAN END UP WITH CEMENT, UM, MIXERS BEING CLEANED OUT WITH AIR HAMMERS, UM, HEAVY DIESEL REPAIR. 
          IT, IT'S VERY, I IMPACT A MUCH MORE IMPACTFUL USE THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT WERE DE RESTRICTED. 
          SO I WOULD, I MEAN, CONSIDERING IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL AREAS NOT THAT FAR AWAY FROM HERE, I I WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE IF, UH, THE LIST OF HEAT RESTRICTIONS INCLUDED THIS USE. 
          ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN'S CONTEXT ON THIS IN THE, UM, RESTRICTIONS VOLUNTEERED BY THE APPLICANT. 
          I HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS, BUT I THINK UNDERSTANDING THAT, THAT THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE LIMITED, UM, WILL REINFORCE THE IDEA OF IT SERVING AS A TRANSITION, UM, HAVE PERSUADED ME THAT THIS IS A, A, A GOOD COMPROMISE AND UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. 
          THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          COMMISSIONER WHEELER, REAGAN, UM, ON THE ACTUAL SALE, I THINK MY CONCERN IS THE SALES PORTION. 
          IT IS NOT THE, UM, YOU CAN HAVE VEHICLE SALES WITHOUT ALSO HAVING SERVICE. 
          SO THE SERVICE PORTION THAT MIGHT BE WHAT ARE, ARE, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE CEMENT TRUCKS BEING CLEANED OR BEING SERVICED, THAT MIGHT BE ONE THING, BUT THE ACTUAL AUTO, THE ACTUAL SALES OF THOSE VEHICLES, UM, IS MY CONCERN IS NOT SO MUCH. 
          UM, SO WE CAN RESTRICT PART OF IT AND NOT REPORT RESTRICT ALL OF IT BECAUSE EVEN IF IT IS CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, IT IS NOT AS CLOSE. 
          AND THIS IS, WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL AREAS FOR A REASON AND WE HAVE MADE IT A HABIT OF RESTRICTING OUR, PUTTING FURTHER RESTRICTIONS ON OUR INDUSTRIAL AREAS. 
          WHETHER IT'S LIGHT OR I AM, I MEAN, UM, YEAH, SO I, I MEAN WE CAN RESTRICT PART OF IT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THE CELLS SHOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED. 
          THAT, THAT THAT PORTION SHOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED. 
          THE MAINTENANCE OF OR ANY OF THOSE COULD BE, BUT NOT THE, NOT THE CELLS. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONERS? I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT AND IT'S ANCILLARY, BUT I THINK IT'S STILL GERMANE TO, UH, THE DISCUSSION, UH, THE INLAND PORT, IN MY OPINION, IT'S BEING UNDERUTILIZED. 
          THERE'S STILL SO MUCH LAND OUT THERE TO BE DEVELOPED WORK WHERE WE'VE DESIGNATED TO BE THE ILL PORT AND TO BE UTILIZED. 
          UH, AND IN MY DISTRICT I USUALLY GET A REQUEST FOR HEAVY MACHINERY, MORE INDUSTRIAL, CLOSER TO NEIGHBORHOODS OUTSIDE OF THE ILAND PORT. 
          WE'VE MADE THE STRATEGIC, STRATEGIC DECISION TO ENSURE THAT WE AS THE CITY OF DALLAS CAN MAINTAIN AND HAVE AREA FOR INDUSTRIAL USE AS THE ILAND PORT. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE UTILIZED. 
          IF WE'RE NOT DIRECTING PEOPLE THERE AS A PART OF IT, THEN THE STRATEGY AS A WHOLE, UH, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I HAVE ONE MORE FOR MY SECOND ROUND. 
          FIRST OFF, I, I THINK I DOVE INTO SORT OF THE MIDDLE OF THIS DISCUSSION. 
          I DID WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR HIS HARD WORK ON THIS AND FINDING A GOOD, GOOD SOLUTION, DONE A CHALLENGING CASE. 
          UM, I DO THINK THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, FLAGS THE PROBLEM THAT WE SEE FROM TIME TO TIME, WHICH IS THAT OUR, THE WAY THAT WE CLASSIFY INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS VERSUS THEIR USES IS 
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PROBABLY OUTDATED. 
          YOU KNOW, OUTDATED MIGHT NOT EVEN BE THE RIGHT TERM, IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD WAY TO DO IT. 
          SO I REALLY DO LOOK FORWARD TO CODE REFORM, FIGURING OUT HOW DO WE COME UP WITH INDUSTRIAL AND INDUSTRIAL RELATED ZONING DISTRICTS THAT BETTER FE FIT THE NEEDS OF OUR CITY. 
          UM, AND AND FINALLY, I THINK I ASKED A QUESTION, THIS EFFECT DURING THE, UM, BRIEFING, BUT I JUST WANNA ADD THAT THE ZONING CASE, NO ZONING CASE IN MY VIEW SETS A PRECEDENT FOR A SUPER, UH, A FUTURE ZONING CASE THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. 
          IT CERTAINLY SETS GUIDANCE, BUT IF THERE WERE ADDITIONAL REQUESTS THAT COME INTO THE NORTH OF THIS ON LANCASTER HUTCHINS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY WOULD, I I WOULD NOT ASSUME THEY WOULD NECESSARILY FOLLOW THIS PATH. 
          I THINK THERE ARE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS FOR FURTHER NORTH. 
          YOU GET SO HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. 
          GOOD WORK. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN. 
          ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, SEEING NONE WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO UM, FOLLOW STATUTE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO DEED RESTRICTIONS ER BY THE APPLICANT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED? SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES 
          [13.
26-2199A
An application for CS Commercial Service District, with consideration given 
to RR Regional Retail District, on property zoned Planned Development No. 
94, on the north line of W. Camp Wisdom Road, between S. Cockrell Hill 
Road and American Way.]
ITEM 13. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          ITEM 13 IS KZ DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 7 3. 
          AN APPLICATION FOR CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO RR REGIONAL REGIONAL DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          94 ON THE NORTH LINE OF WEST CAM WISDOM ROAD BETWEEN SOUTH RE HILL ROAD AND AMERICAN WASTE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF RR REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT IN LIEU OF A CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. GARZA. 
          IS THERE ANYONE BE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 13? OH, THERE YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          ANDREW REIG 1341 WEST MOCKINGBIRD. 
          I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY NOTE, UH, MYSELF AND UH, VICE CHAIR HERBERT HAD BEEN WORKING ON THIS ONE. 
          I BELIEVE HE HAD TO LEAVE AND I BELIEVE THE INTENT WAS TO RE ADVERTISE AS A PD. 
          I JUST WANTED TO RELAY THAT MESSAGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MR. RUIC. 
          ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER 13? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE, UH, VICE CHAIR. 
          HERBERT, ARE YOU ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS? DO WE NEED SOMEONE ELSE TO YEAH, I CAN MAKE A MOTION ON IN THE CASE OF, UM, CASE NUMBER 13, I'VE MOVED TO, UM, KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HAVE THIS RE-ADVERTISED AS AN AMENDMENT TO PD NINE FOUR, UM, AND COME BACK AUGUST 6TH IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THAT. 
          DOES THAT MOTION DO THE TRICK, MR. PEPE? OKAY, GREAT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HERBERT, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND RE-ADVERTISED FOR A PD, UM, ANY HELP HOLDING IT UNTIL AUGUST 6TH. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OR ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 14, THAT'S CASE Z 26 0 0 0 0 0 7 WILL NOT BE HEARD BY THE COMMISSION TODAY. 
          IT IS BEING RENO FOR HER AUGUST 6TH, 2026 MEETING. 
          SO WE WILL TAKE IT UP AT THAT TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I BELIEVE THAT BRINGS US TO OUR SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET, WHICH CONSISTS, OH, OKAY. 
          WHY DON'T WE, OKAY. 
          [SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent Items]
YEAH, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND READ THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT IN, UM, CONSISTING OF ITEMS 15 THROUGH 27 AND I SEE THAT THERE ARE APPLICANTS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, SO I ASSUME THAT NONE OF THE PLATS NEED TO COME UP CONSENT. 
          DOES THAT, ANYONE WANNA PULL ANY PLATS? OKAY, MR. PEPPY, UM, SUBDIVISION ACTUALLY DO WE DO TYPICALLY READ THEM? DO WE TYPICALLY READ EACH OF THESE JUST FULL DESCRIPTIONS AND THE FLAT NUMBER? THAT'S WHAT WE, UM, YES. 
          ITEM 15 IS PLANT NUMBER 2 6 0 0 0 1 3 4. 
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ITEM 15 IS IS PLAT NUMBER 2 6 0 0 0 1 3 4. 
          UH, ITEM 16 IS PLAT 2 6 0 0 1 3 6. 
          UH, UH, ITEM 17 IS PLAT 2 6 0 0 1 3 8. 
          ITEM 18 IS PLOT 2 6 0 0 0 1 4 1. 
          UH, ITEM 19 IS PLOT 2 6 0 0 1 4 2. 
          UH, ITEM 20 IS PLOT 2 6 0 0 1 4 3. 
          UM, ITEM 21 IS 26 0 0 1 4 4 AND UH, 22 IS PLAT 26 0 0 0 1 4 5 23 IS PLA 26 0 1 4 6. 
          ITEM 24 IS PLA 26 0 0 1 4 7. 
          UH, ITEM 25 IS PLA 2 6 0 0 0 1 4 8. 
          UM, 26 IS PLA 26 0 0 1 4 9 AND 27 IS PLA 2 6 0 0 1 5 2. 
          UH, AND WE HAVE ONE CORRECTION. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. 
          SO THE CORRECTION ON ITEM NUMBER 25, PLAT 26 TEST 0 0 0 1 48. 
          THE CORRECT COUNSEL DISTRICT IS ONE. 
          ALL THE CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME. 
          AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND OR AS AMENDED AT THE HEARING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF OUR PLATS ITEMS? 15 THROUGH 27. 
          OKAY, SEEING NONE. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON OUR SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET ITEMS 15 THROUGH 27? I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AND AS AMENDED AT THE PODIUM. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION. 
          COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          UM, MR. ISSA, ONE QUESTION ON ITEM NUMBER 21. 
          SO IT'S WITHIN PD 2 98, THE LOT WAS PREVIOUSLY UTILIZED AS PART OF AN ADJACENT UM, BUSINESS. 
          THIS IS SIMPLY CREATING IT AS ITS OWN LOT SUBJECT TO ALL THE UNDERLYING ZONING COMMISSIONS. 
          AND I'M JUST ASKING TO CONFIRM THAT THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          IT'S GONNA SEE MM-HMM  THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          ANY OPPOSED, SAY NAY. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES RIGHT? I BELIEVE. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? OKAY, IT IS 1:23 PM THIS MAY BE A NEW RECORD. 
          THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION IS ADJOURNED. 
          WOW.
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