* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WE GOOD? [00:00:01] WE ARE GOOD. ALRIGHT. GOOD MORNING. WE NOW CALL THE AUGUST 6TH, 2026 [Dallas Park and Recreation Board on August 6, 2026.] PARK BOARD MEETING TO ORDER AT 10:02 AM WE HAVE A LARGE LIST, A LONG LIST OF, UH, REGISTERED SPEAKERS THIS MORNING, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET TO THOSE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY WHO'S REGISTERED. UM, WE DO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AS A GROUP, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT KEY AND ABOUT, UH, THE WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GROUP TOGETHER, UM, THAT'S GREAT. IF NOT, THAT'S UP TO YOU AS WELL. UM, AND WE'RE GONNA GO IN ORDER. MISS, UH, SECRETARY, CAN YOU PLEASE, MADAM SECRETARY, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST SPEAKER? UM, YES. LET ME READ THE SPEAKER RULES. UM, EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD. ONLY ANY SPEAKER WHO MAKES PERSONAL AND PERTINENT PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS OR BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THEM FOR REPORT WILL BE REMOVED TO N EMBARK FROM THE, UM, OUR FIRST SPEAKER, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY HAVE JOINED US, IT'S A ROOM, UH, CAROLYN KING ARNOLD. THEY MAY BE JOINING LATER. WE DON'T SEE THEM ONLINE. UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER AFTER THAT IS DANIEL CROW. AND BY THE WAY, FOR ALL OF YOU SPEAKERS, UM, YES, COME UP TO THE LECTERN RIGHT HERE, AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUSH ANYTHING. THE GREEN LIGHT WILL COME ON AND YOU GUYS CAN SPEAK THE GREEN LIGHT ON THE MICROPHONE. THERE YOU GO. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH ANYTHING, ALL THE SPEAKERS, IT'LL, IT'LL DO IT ITSELF. OKAY. POWERPOINT, BY THE WAY, UH, ONE LAST THING REAL QUICK. THE SPEAKER TIME FOR TODAY IS TWO MINUTES. UM, SO WE HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. WHAT I GOT A POWERPOINT OF? YES. OKAY. GO. A PICTURE THAT I DON'T HAVE A CLICKER UP HERE. UM, YOU CAN JUST TELL THEM IN YOUR TWO MINUTES HAS BEGUN. YOU CAN SAY NEXT SLIDE OR DIRECT THEM TO A SPECIFIC SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. HI. HI. MY NAME'S DANIEL CROW. UH, IN FEBRUARY, THE TURTLE CREEK ASSOCIATION, UH, CUT OFF A WHOLE BUNCH OF BRUSH IN MARTIN TURTLE CREEK BETWEEN, UH, SAY AVONDALE AND STONEBRIDGE AND A BLACKBURN AREA. AND, UM, IT'S CAUSING A HUGE AMOUNT OF EROSION. IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT IMAGE, THE ANGLE FOR PARTS OF THAT CREEK IS WAY TOO STEEP TO NOT HAVE BRUSH THERE. WE NEED THE BRUSH. SIMPLE ENGINEER, THE CITY CIVIL ENGINEER, I'M SORRY, THE PARK CIVIL ENGINEER SAID, YES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO IN THERE NOW AND SHORE UP THE SIDE. UM, HONESTLY, WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE WANT THE BAMBOO THAT USED TO BE THERE BACK. UM, THE JUST JUSTIFICATION WAS TO GET RID OF THE PRIS, GONE, LET THE BAMBOO GROW BACK. SINCE THEN, THEY'VE CUT THE, UH, THEY'VE CUT THE BAMBOO IN SOME AREAS FOUR TIMES IN SOME AREAS, FIVE TIMES THREE OF THOSE WERE PASSED THE, UH, PARK BOARDS REQUEST AND THEN ORDER TO NOT CUT THE BAMBOO. UM, EXCUSE. IF YOU PLEASE GO TO ANOTHER IMAGE, WE'LL JUST KEEP GOING. UH, WHAT, WHAT WE WANT IS WE WANT THE BAMBOO TO GROW BACK AND WANT TO BE ABLE TO PLANT TREES THAT WILL SUPPORT THAT SLOPE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. SUCH AS, YEAH, CYPRESS TREES, UM, ELM TREES, SYCAMORE TREES, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE REASON WHY THEY DID IT 'CAUSE THE, THE BAND, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAYING, OH, THE BAMBOO BLOCKS THE VIEW OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET. NOBODY LIVES ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THE BAMBOO IS. WE NEED TO LET THE BAMBOO GROW BACK. UM, THAT, THAT BAMBOO HAS NOT SPREAD IN 50 YEARS OF LIVING MEMORY. AND WE, WE THINK THE BAMBOO'S BEEN THERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 90 YEARS. UM, WE, WE'VE FORMED A FRIENDS GROUP IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY TO TAKE MANAGEMENT OF THIS, UH, OF THIS TRIP OF CREEK. I JUST KEEP THAT, THAT'S A GREAT PHOTO, GOOD ANGLE. AND, UH, WE'VE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY AND WE, WE HOPE THAT THE, THE PARK BOARD ACCEPTS OUR BEAUTIFICATION SLASH MANAGEMENT PROPOSAL. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF EXASPERATED WITH THE TRAIL CREEK ASSOCIATION AT THIS POINT AND, UH, ALSO THAT IS YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS WALT DAVIS. MY NAME IS WALT DAVIS. I LIVE IN THREE ST NINE NEAR BLACK ROCK LAKE. IN 25 YEARS, I'M A CURATOR AT THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF THE METRO STREET. I WANT TO REPORT THE RESULTS OF THE JUST COMPLETED TEMPORARY REOPENING OF THE MUSEUM. THE DOOR OPENED ON SIX CONSECUTIVE SUNDAYS WHILE FIFA FEST WAS ON AND 6,000 VISITORS TO THE ADVANTAGE. SURPRISINGLY, MOST OF THE ATTENDEES WERE NOT FIFA FANS, BUT ADULTS WHO CAME TO THE MUSEUM AS CHILDREN AND WANTED TO BRING THEIR CHILDREN AND [00:05:01] GRANDCHILDREN TO SEE THE PLACE. SO I SUPPORT THEM TO THEIR OWN CHILDHOODS. OUR DEPARTMENT STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS FROM THE NORTH TEXAS CHAPTER OF TEXAS MASTER NATURALLY COLLABORATED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. FAIR PARK GENERAL MANAGER, BRENT WILKE AND MARKETING AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH MANAGER MONITORING FUNERAL FOSTER, AND THE REST OF THE STAFF INTERNS ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTED AND ENABLED THAT REOPENING 300 VISITORS LEFT. COMMENTS, AMY SAID THIS MUSEUM WAS A MAJOR PART, NOT ONLY OF MY CHILDHOOD, BUT ALSO OF MY CHILDREN'S. IT WAS MY LOCAL REFUGE. RUTH REMEMBERED THIS PLACE GAVE ME MY INITIAL INTEREST IN SCIENCES WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD. NOW AT 20 YEARS OF AGE, I'M FINALLY ABLE TO SEE IT AGAIN. I HOPE THESE DEER, THESE DOORS REMAIN OPEN. SO THE NEXT GENERATION FOUND THEIR LOVE FOR THIS WORLD IN ALL ITS PARTS. AND ACCORDING TO ELIZABETH, THE DALLAS MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY IS A TREASURE. THE DIORAMAS ARE WONDERFUL AS WELL AS EDUCATION. THIS BUILDING IS AN ARCHITECTURAL SPECIALTY. I'M THRILLED TO SEE CROWDS HERE TODAY, THEIR PRESENCE PROVE THERE IS INTEREST IN THIS MUSEUM. ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND 6,000 MUSEUM DOORS, THANK YOU FOR OPENING THE DOORS. THE LORD OF DALLAS'S UNDERUTILIZED CULTURAL TREASURES. IS THERE A WAY WE MIGHT FIND THE ? THAT IS YOUR TIME. UH, WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO, IT LOOKS LIKE CAROLYN KING ARNOLD HAS JOINED US. UH, VIRTUALLY MS. ARNOLD WILL NEED TO SEE YOUR CAMERA. YOUR THANK YOU. YOU CAN BEGIN. MS. ARNOLD, YOU ARE, UH, MUTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING TO, UH, PARK BOARD PRESIDENT MR. ARUN AND TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PARK BOARD. QUICKLY, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PROJECT, UH, WOOD WOODY BRANCH, UH, PARK, UH, WHICH WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. WHILE I WAS ON COUNCIL, STRONGLY SUPPORTED THAT AND I BELIEVE WE RECEIVED ALMOST UNANIMOUS SUPPORT. BUT WHAT WE NEED TO, UH, PUT ON BEFORE YOU AND WE WILL BE WRITING AS WE HAVE, WE NEED THIS TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND TO BE HONEST AND TRANSPARENT, UH, IN TERMS OF THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH GLEN OAKS. UH, LOS COBOS AND HUNTERS VIEW, THIS IS A CITYWIDE PARK. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE PEOPLE WHO BORDER THAT PARTICULAR, UH, PARK POTENTIAL PARK ARE AT THE TABLE AND WE ARE NOT GETTING INPUT FROM THOSE WHO ARE AROUND IT AND WHO WILL NOT DEAL WITH DAY-TO-DAY ACCESS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A BRIDGE THAT WILL IMPACT HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY WELL OVER 60 SOMETHING YEARS. 60. YOU HAVE A GREAT, A GREAT COMMUNITY HERE. WE DO HAVE SOME WHO ARE, UM, MILLENNIALS AND YOUNG AND UP AND COMING, BUT WE ARE DEALING WITH THE FACT THESE IS TAXPAYERS DOLLARS THAT WILL SUPPLEMENT THIS PROJECT. AND TAXPAYERS, OH, WE DO RESPECT ON THIS PROJECT WHEN IT UNPACKS OUR DAY TO DAY. SO PLEASE ALLOW US AN OPPORTUNITY. WE WILL BE INVITING THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO OUR MEETING. UH, I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE MEET IN SEPTEMBER, AND IF WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY MEETING, WE WILL DO THAT. BUT PLEASE KNOW, RESPECT OF COMMUNITIES WHEN THEY'RE USING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS REMAIN VERY IMPORTANT AND YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL ME, UH, AND I'LL LEAVE MY INFORMATION WITH THE PARK BOARD SECRETARY. I HAVE AN EMAIL. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME TO THE NEW TO COMMUNITY TO VIEW WHAT IS, WHAT THIS COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO JEOPARDIZE OUR COMMUNITY, OUR BUSINESSES THAT WE'VE JUST SO MUCH PUT IN, JUST REALLY PUT IN ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO WITH WALMART. UH, AND WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF RESPECT. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS INEZ TRAN. HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE . MY NAME IS AN CHER AND I'M 13 YEARS OLD AND I'M RESIDENT OF DISTRICT THREE. I HAVE JOINED AT KEY CENTER CENTER FOR NINE YEARS. AT THE AGE OF FOUR, I WAS INTRODUCED TO KEY CENTER CENTER FROM THE FREE CENTER SUBSTANCE OFFERED AT KEY PARK. THE FIRST WORD THAT COMES TO MIND WHEN I THINK OF PEACE IS OPPORTUNITY. EVERY KID IS ALLOWED TO PLAY SERIOUS NO MATTER THEIR FINANCIAL STATUS. [00:10:01] NOBODY HAVE EVER TURNED AWAY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR A SANTA. THIS IS WHY I'M ASKING YOU TO KEEP KIDS WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO EVERY CHILD LIKE ME CAN HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AND ACCESS TO THIS LAST SEMESTER, THIS SUMMER ALONE, I SPENT APPROXIMATELY 260 HOURS ON THE COURSE OF KEY SANTA CENTER FOR TRAINING AT PRIVATE STUDENT FACILITIES. THIS AMOUNT OF TRAINING COULD COST WELL OVER $10,000. BECAUSE OF KEY SANTA CENTER, I WAS ABLE TO FOCUS ON BECOMING A STRONGER ADVOCATE EMPLOYER WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY WHAT IF MY FAMILY COULD AFFORD THESE OPPORTUNITIES. IN ADDITION TO MY, WITH MY TRAINING AND SCHOLARSHIP FROM PEACE TENNIS CENTER, I WAS ALSO ABLE TO COMPETE AT THE USCA NATIONAL CAMPUS IN ORLANDO FOR THE AMERICAN TENNIS ASSOCIATION NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT. AN OPPORTUNITY I MAY NEVER HAVE HAD THAT PEACE TENNIS CENTER. IN ADDITION TO MY COURT TRAINING, I ALSO SPENT 40 HOURS WITH COMMUNITY SERVICE AT KEY TENNIS CENTER. DURING THOSE 40 HOURS, I LEARNED HOW TO COACH YOUNGER PLAYERS AND WORKED ON OUR COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT BY PULLING WEEDS AND PLANTING FLOWER COOKIES. THESE EXPERIENCES TAUGHT ME LEADERSHIP RESPONSIBILITY IN MY TEAMWORK KEYS HAS GIVEN ME MUCH MORE THAN A PLACE TO PLAY TENNIS. IT HAS GIVEN ME OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW UP LEADER AND GIVE BACK TO MY COMMUNITY. BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF PEACE CITIZEN, I ASK THAT YOU MEMBER, THE VOICES OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND FAMILIES WHO CALL KEYSTONE, PLEASE KEEP PEACE IN THE HANDS OF THE COMMUNITY. THERE IS ONE THOUGHT I'D LIKE TO LEAVE WITH YOU, NOTHING ABOUT US WITHOUT US. I AM ASKING YOU THAT YOU INCLUDE OUR COMMUNITY IN THE DECISIONS THAT WILL SHAPE OUR FUTURE AT PEACE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND FOR CONSIDERING MY VOICE TODAY. MY SPEAKER GENERAL, I'M SORRY. ACTUALLY, IT'S UM, BRITTANY LAWRENCE. APOLOGIES, SHE'S KILLING. HELLO, MY NAME IS BRITTANY LAWRENCE AND 13 YEARS AGO MY HUSBAND AND I FRESHLY MARRIED AND DECIDEDLY READY FOR AN ADVENTURE. MOVED TO OAK OAKLAND, SPECIFICALLY KEYWOOD. IT IS A GORGEOUS AND VIBRANT COMMUNITY THAT WE INSTANTLY FELL IN LOVE WITH AND HAVE RAISED OUR CHILDREN WITHIN ITS GRASP FOR 11 YEARS. IN THAT TIME, WE HAVE SEEN MANY BUSINESSES COME AND GO AND WE HAVE SEEN COMMUNITY GROUPS FIGHT FOR A PLACE AT THE TABLE JUST TO STAY AFLOAT. SOUTH OAK CLIFF IS OFTEN THE FIRST THING ON ANY FINANCIAL CHOPPING BLOCK. AND THOUGH ITS RESIDENTS OFTEN FEEL AS IF THEY ARE AN AFTERTHOUGHT, ITS RESIDENTS CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR A RIGHT TO EXIST AND TO BUILD UP ITS COMMUNITY. EAST TENNIS CENTER IS ABSOLUTELY AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. MY OLDEST DAUGHTER RECENTLY DECIDED SHE WAS INTO HORSES AND ASKED TO GO TO HORSE CAMP OVER THE SUMMER. MY SON ASKED IF HE COULD START PLAYING TENNIS. LET ME TELL YOU, I'M NOT SURE WHICH TAX BRACKET MY CHILDREN THINK WE ARE IN, BUT LUCKILY, LET ME TELL YOU, I I AM. OTHER THAN THAT, IF WE HAD NOT LIVED NEXT TO KEITH TENNIS CENTER, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD FOR BOTH MY DAUGHTER TO LEARN HOW TO RIDE HORSES. AND MY SON, I LEARNED HOW TO SWING A RAPID. NOT ONLY ARE HIS LESSONS FREE, BUT THEY ARE AT A WELLCARE FLOOR AT BELOVED FACILITY, THEY HAVE GOOD EQUIPMENT, CLEAN GROUNDS, AND WELL KEPT COURTS. VERY OFTEN FREE IN SOUTH DALLAS MEANS LACKING RESOURCES AND APPROPRIATE FACILITIES. THAT IS NOT THE CASE WITH PEACE TENNIS CENTER AND YOU SHOULD BE USING THIS MODEL AS AN EXAMPLE FOR HOW TO PROVIDE GOOD THINGS TO YOUR COMMUNITY SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE YOUR COMMUNITY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, DON'T MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT US WITHOUT US. PLEASE INCLUDE OUR COMMUNITY IN THE DECISIONS THAT WILL SHAPE THE FUTURE OF KEY ED CENTER. JIM BERRY, MR. BERRY RIE JAMER BERRY HERE. MEMBER OF CAMP LIVES IN UNITED METHODIST CHURCH IN DALLAS, NEIGHBORS TO KEYS TENNIS CENTER. WE SUPPORT RETAINING DALLAS TENNIS ASSOCIATION. CAMP WISDOM STARTED JUNETEENTH TENNIS EXHIBITION AT KEYS SEVERAL YEARS AGO. THE EXHIBITION AS MORE TENNIS PLAY FOR HIGH SCHOOL PLAYERS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF DALLAS ROOSEVELT, CARTER TO NAME A FEW. WE AWARD THREE SUMMER, UH, TENNIS SCHOLARSHIPS TUTORED BY TENNIS PRO CRAIG COLE'S TEAM, UH, CRAIG COLE'S TEAM. OUR CELEBRITY DOUBLES MATCH BRINGS OUT LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS AND FOLKS, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER DARREN GRACIE AND CHAD WEST. CRAIG'S LEADERSHIP MAKES US MORE THAN A AGENDA ITEM. [00:15:01] HIS MANAGEMENT ENCOURAGES US TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY GROWTH. IT HELPS TO, HE HELPED DEVELOP OUR, I PLAY TENNIS WHERE FIVE TO 12 YEAR OLDS GET DRILLS AND INSTRUCTIONS A FIRST FOR MOST OF THEM, THAT ASSISTANCE RECEIVE PRAISE AND FROM PARENTS AND NEIGHBORS. DALLAS ASSOCIATION HAS DONE THAT FOR US. ONE CONGREGATION, WE ARE NOT ALONE. THE CENTER HAS BECOME A HAVEN FOR MANY OTHER LOCAL TENNIS GROUPS WHO HOLD TOURNAMENTS THERE. STRENGTHENING FAMILIES, SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES HELP US INVEST IN OUR YOUTH WHEN WE SERVE AND SUPPORT LIKE CRAIG AND HIS TEAM. THE COMMUNITY THRIVES FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL. AND TEXAS HAS A LONG HISTORY. TENNIS HAS LITTLE, ESPECIALLY BROWN COMMUNITIES. CRAIG SUBMISSION CHANGES THAT OBJECTIVE. CAN YOU PAUSE FOR A SECOND? ASK A QUESTION. SORRY. WE NEED TO REMOVE THREE ARNOLD'S MICROPHONE LIKE APOLOGIES. WE'LL GIVE YOU BACK 30 SECONDS AND LET YOU CONTINUE. . BOTTOM LINE. CRAIG'S UNWAVERING COMMITMENT. WHETHER PROFESSIONALLY OR PERSONALLY KEEPS TASTE AT CENTER. A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY CAMP WISDOM STANDS PROUDLY WITH THE TENNIS, THE DALLAS TENNIS ASSOCIATION, BUILDING A WELCOME MAT TO MAKE TENNIS AN EXCITING PART OF OUR LIVES, ESPECIALLY OUR YOUTH. PLEASE KEEP THREE PROVERBS OF MODELS IN MIND. IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT IS FIRST FOLKS TODAY BROKE. THE OTHER TWO KEEP HOME ALIVE. THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS AVA AL. AVA AL. HELLO, MY NAME IS AVA AND I'M HERE TO PROVIDE KEITH SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE MANAGED BY DTEH. KEITH TELL ME, NIGHT REGIONAL RALLY MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE MATCH DAY. THESE PROGRAMS DON'T JUST HELP US PLAY TENNIS. THEY HELP US BUILD CHARACTER, CONFIDENCE AND FRIENDSHIPS. I'M ONE OF THE YOUNGEST GREEN BALLERS HERE, BUT BECAUSE DTA CARES ABOUT HELPING THE YOUNGEST KIDS, BIG BUILDS BUILD BIG SKILLS FROM DAY ONE, I'VE IMPROVED SO MUCH. I ALMOST BEAT MY COACH IN A MATCH. DTEA GIVES ALL OF US A SAFE, WELCOMING PLACE TO LEARN AND HANG OUT. IF A BIG COMPANY LIKE IMPACT TAKES OVER EVERYTHING CHANGES. THEY RUN TENNIS LIKE A BUSINESS, NOT A FAMILY AT COURTS MANAGED BY IMPACT PRICES GO UP AND NEWS PROGRAMS GET SQUEEZED OUT. THAT MEANS HIGHER FEES FOR FAMILIES, FEAR COURTS FOR KIDS, AND NO MORE FREE COMMUNITY ROUTINES. THESE IS NOT JUST A BUNCH OF TENNIS COURTS AND FENCES TO US, IT'S SECOND HOME. DTEA KNOWS OUR NAMES, SUPPORTS OUR DREAMS, AND MAKES TENNIS FUN FOR EVERYONE. WE DON'T WANT A COMPANY THAT LOOKS AT US LIKE A SPREADSHEET. PLEASE PROTECT OUR OUR AWESOME COACHES AND OUR FUTURE. KEEP TEE WITH DTEA. NEXT SPEAKER. REBECCA THEREI. OKAY, GOOD MORNING ARTS COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS REBECCA THEREI AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT DTEA. JUST LIKE A, WHEN MOST PEOPLE ENVISION YOUTH TENNIS, THEY THINK OF COUNTRY CLUBS, MANICURED BONDS, FACILITIES, AND EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT. TRADITIONALLY TENNIS BUSINESS SPORT IS MANY PHYSICAL, SOCIAL AND COGNITIVE BENEFITS ARE DECIDEDLY NOT AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE. AND YET THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT DTEA IS ALL ABOUT. EVERY SINGLE CHILD IS WELCOME. DTEA WELCOMES ANY CHILD FREE OF COST INTO ITS ENTRY LEVEL PROGRAM. YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO SEND YOUR CHILD IN WITH A RACKET. THIS IS HOW MY SON AND LATER MY DAUGHTER STARTED IN THE PROGRAM AND FELL IN LOVE WITH SPORTING. I'VE SEEN THEM GROW NOT ONLY PHYSICALLY BUT EMOTIONALLY AND IMMATURITY IN THEIR TIME WITH DTEA. IT IS [00:20:01] A PROGRAM THAT IS ABOUT MUCH MORE THAN ATHLETICS. IN FACT, I MIGHT ARGUE THAT IT IS A CHARACTER FORMATION PROGRAM THAT HAPPENS TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR SERVE. EVERY SINGLE PLAYER IS REQUIRED TO SHOW UP, TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, TO BE RESPECTFUL, AND TO GIVE BACK. PLAYERS ARE, UH, REQUIRED TO DEDICATE AT LEAST 60 HOURS A YEAR TO COMMUNITY SERVICE. AND EARLIER THIS YEAR, MY SON EVEN GOT TO BE A BALL BOY IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS. ANY OF THESE PLAYERS WITH US TODAY COULD TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU SHOW UP TO PRACTICE WITHOUT YOUR HAT. COACH CAROL WILL HAVE YOU RIDING. I WILL NOT FORGET MY HAT 200 TIMES BEFORE THE NEXT PRACTICE, NO EXCEPTIONS. BUT IF YOU NEED HELP TO MASTER YOUR BACKHAND, SHE WILL SPEND TWO HOURS AT PRACTICE MAKING SURE YOU GET THE SUPPORT YOU NEED. SHE'LL TREAT THE KIDS TO ICE CREAM AFTER A BIG GAME. SHE'LL GIVE A HUG TO A PLAYER WHO IS TEARFUL AFTER A TOUGH LOSS. AND SHE'S JUST ONE OF MANY REMARKABLE COACHES AND STAFF MEMBERS THAT MAKE UP OUR TENNIS FAMILY AT PEACE. I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE THE TIME DURING THIS PERIOD OF REASSESSMENT TO GET TO KNOW OUR PROGRAMS, OUR COMMUNITY, AND THE COACHES AND PLAYERS WHO THINK IT'S SO SPECIAL. WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL AGREE THAT WE DESERVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE IN MAKING DECISIONS THAT WILL SHAPE THE FUTURE OF KEITH TENNIS CENTER BECAUSE THOSE DECISIONS WILL ALSO SHAPE THE FUTURE OF THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS VIRTUAL WHISPER, UM, AGGIE WHISPER. AGGIE, ARE YOU ALIGNED? WHISPER TO SEE YOUR CAMERA TO BE. UH, UM, MY CAMERA DOES NOT SEEM TO BE, OH, NEVERMIND. OKAY. I GOT IT TO WORK. OKAY, YOU CAN BEGIN. YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS WHISPER JE. I'M 16 YEARS OLD AND I'VE BEEN PLAYING TENNIS FOR NINE YEARS AT KEITH'S TENNIS CENTER. NOT ONLY IS THIS THE PLACE WHERE I LEARNED THE MAJORITY OF MY TENNIS SKILLS, BUT ALSO WHERE I LEARNED HOW TO FIND MY FAMILY, MY TENNIS FAMILY, I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LEARN THE SKILLS I NEED TO BE A COMPETITOR ANYWHERE ELSE BECAUSE WHETHER YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, TENNIS IS NOT THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE SPORT TO PLAY. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO TRAVEL ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO SPEAK TO TENNIS PROS AND MEET WITH THEM AND ASK THEM ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES AND PLAY IN NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS. IN FACT, I WON ONE JUST RECENTLY. THEY'VE MADE SURE THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE, THAT I'VE HAD EVERY NEED FINANCIALLY, FINANCIALLY WISE AND THROUGH KEITH TENNIS CENTER, SPECIFICALLY DALLAS TENNIS EDUCATION ASSOCIATION, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO NOT ONLY PLAY THE SPORT I LOVE, BUT ALSO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE POSSIBLE FINANCIAL RAM FINANCIAL RAMIFICATIONS FROM THE SPORT. I LOVE. IT HAS BEEN HONOR GETTING TO KNOW THE COACHES THAT I'VE WORKED WITH OVER THE YEARS AND BEING ABLE TO SEE ALL KINDS OF FRIENDS THAT I'VE MADE ALONG THE WAY AND EVEN SOME OF THE SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SPOKE TO YOU ALREADY. IF YOU TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM WHAT I AM SAYING, PLEASE TAKE AWAY THAT THESE COURTS IN THIS PROGRAM ARE WHAT KIDS NEED TO THRIVE, NOT JUST FOR TENNIS AS A WHOLE, BUT KIDS HERE IN OAK CLIFF AND KIDS EVERYWHERE. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, CLAUDIA GRAHAM. JEAN . WELL, KEITH IS A VERY HARD ACT TO FOLLOW, BUT UH, WE'RE GONNA SWITCH FROM ONE BEAUTIFUL SPORT OF TENNIS TO ROWING. SO YOU GUYS HAVE WELCOMED AND SUPPORT ME. IS CLAUDIA HAW. I AM A CONSTITUENT FROM DISTRICT TWO AND I'M A ROWER. I JOINED THE MASTER'S PROGRAM AT WHITE ROCK ROWING LAST YEAR AND I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF MY ROWING CLUB AS WELL AS THE IMPLICATIONS OF THE FUTURE OF ROWING IN DALLAS WHERE THERE ARE SPORTS, THERE IS ALWAYS COMPETITION. WHILE I'VE LEARNED THAT RIGHT, AND WHERE THERE'S COMPETITION, THERE'S OFTEN RIVALRY ON THE PLAYING FIELD IN THE TENNIS COURT, ON THE WATER. COMPETITION AND RIVALRY ARE POWERFUL DRIVERS OF PERFORMANCE AND EXCELLENCE AND WE SEE THAT WITH OUR YOUTH AT, UH, AT WHITE ROCK ROW ROWING, BUT RIVALRY BETWEEN TWO CLUBS ON THE LAKE DO YOU SEE? AND WHITE ROCK ROWING HAS CROSSED FROM ATHLETICS TO POLITICS AND IT'S NOT SERVING THE ATHLETES OR THE COMMUNITY. IT IS CROSSED OVER TO A WINNER TAKE ALL GAME WHERE NOTHING LESS THAN THE DISMANTLING OF WHITE ROCK ROWING WILL SATISFY THEIR RIVAL. YOU SEE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR STRONG ACCESSIBLE YOUTH AND ADULT GROWING [00:25:01] PROGRAMS AND I BELIEVE THAT ORGANIZATIONS THAT PARTNER WITH THE CITY SHOULD BE HELD TO A VERY HIGH STANDARD OF TRANSPARENCY AND GOVERNANCE. Y BROCK ROWING HAS OPERATED THE FACILITIES ON THE WESTERN SHORE FOR NEARLY 20 YEARS. IT RUNS WITH IT RUNS YOUTH PROGRAMS, PROVIDES SCHOLARSHIPS. IT HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT POSITIVE PRESENCE ON THE LAKE, AND I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST TO THE EXCEPTIONALLY INCLUSIVE AND POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE AS ROWERS WAKE UP BEFORE DAWN EVERY MORNING TO, TO ENJOY LIKE EVERY ORGANIZATION I'VE ENCOUNTERED IN 40 YEARS IN BUSINESS. WHITE ROCK ROWING IS PROBABLY NOT PERFECT. IN FACT, THERE ARE PROBABLY, OR POSSIBLY. UM, AND WE ALL THE ISSUES ARE REMEDY OF YOUR TIME, BUT PLEASE DO NOT DISCONTINUE OUR PROGRAM. IT IS CELIA CINDO. THERE'S THE DOOR. WHERE'S THE DOOR? I'M SORRY I CAN'T SEE IT ALL. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. I AM ALSO A GROWER AT WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE. CLAUDIA AND I ROW TOGETHER ALL THE TIME. UH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE. UH, THERE'S SUCH A SENSE OF COMMUNITY THERE, UH, WITH A SHARED SENSE OF PRIDE, NOT ONLY FOR THE BOATHOUSE, BUT FOR THE WHITE ROCK LAKE IN GENERAL. THE BOATHOUSE IS WELL RUN, IT'S INCLUSIVE. IT OFFERS MENTORSHIP, COACHING WITH HIGH COMMITMENT FROM THE JUNIORS TO THE MASTERS. WE SHOW UP EVERY MORNING TO LEARN AND IMPROVE AND GROW. IT IS A FUN AND HEALTHY AND HAPPY COMMUNITY, WHICH HAS GREATLY IMPACTED MY LIFE. UH, THE FRIENDSHIPS CREATED, UH, THE GREAT SENSE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT AND UH, IT JUST MAKES MY DAY EVERY MORNING WHEN THE SUN COMES UP WHILE WE'RE ROWING ON THE LAKE. UM, IT IS SO INCLUSIVE. IT'S A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE. UM, THE KIDS LOVE IT. WE LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF THE LAKE. UM, EVERYONE GETS ALONG AND WE REALLY WANT THE BOATHOUSE TO REMAIN THE WAY THAT IT IS BECAUSE IT IS WELL, WE LOVE OUR COACHES. WE LOVE, UM, GOING OUT THERE EVERY MORNING AND, UM, STARTING OUR DAY. AND I'M YE WHITE BROAD BOOK. THANK MA'AM, PLEASE, UH, NO SCREAMING. NO, NO. CHEERS. NEXT SPEAKER. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KEVIN JONES. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS KEVIN JONES AND I SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE. WHEN I FIRST BECAME INVOLVED WITH BOATHOUSE, I DID NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF WHAT IT TOOK TO BUILD WHAT EXISTS TODAY. OVER TIME, I LEARNED ABOUT THE VOLUNTEERS WHO RAISED THE MONEY RESTORED, NEGLECTED CITY PROPERTY, BUILT THE DOCKS, CREATED THE PROGRAMS, AND GAVE COUNTLESS HOURS TO MAKE ROWING AVAILABLE TO DALLAS. NOW, I HAVE WITNESSED FIRSTHAND WHAT THOSE PROGRAMS DO. THEIR VALUE IS NOT MEASURED ONLY IN REVENUE, IT IS MEASURED IN LIVES, CHANGED AND TRAJECTORIES ALTERED FOR THE BETTER. IT IS THE CHILD WHO FINALLY FINDS A PLACE TO BELONG, THE TEENAGER WHO LEARNS DISCIPLINE, TEAMWORK, SACRIFICE, AND TIME MANAGEMENT. THE ATHLETE WHO DISCOVERS THEY'RE CAPABLE MORE THAN THEY IMAGINED THE ADAPTIVE ATHLETE WHO FINDS COMMUNITY ON THE WATER. WHITE ROCK HAS BEEN AN EXCEPTIONAL STEWARD OF THESE PARK ASSETS. THE RESTORATION, MAINTENANCE, SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT PROVE THAT. YET, INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THIS MISSION, THE ORGANIZATION IS NOW RESPONDING TO ACCUSATIONS, LAWYERS, PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, POLITICAL MEETINGS AND COORDINATED ATTACKS. ACCOUNTABILITY IS APPROPRIATE, BUT THIS IS NO LONGER A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO IMPROVE A PARTNERSHIP. IT APPEARS TO BE AN EFFORT TO USE GOVERNMENT POWER TO DAMAGE A COMPETING ROWING ORGANIZATION. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THE ORGANIZATION IS NOT MERELY A CONTRACT OR AN AUDIT. IT IS PEOPLE. THEY ARE ATHLETES, PARENTS, VOLUNTEERS, COACHES, DONORS, AND DALLAS RESIDENTS. THEY ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEY'RE ASKING YOU TO HEAR THEIR STORIES. OUR COMMUNITY IS EXHAUSTED AND READY TO RETURN TO ITS MISSION. PROTECT THIS PARTNERSHIP. RECOGNIZE WHAT HAS BEEN BUILT HERE. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. LET US GET BACK TO ROWING. THANK YOU. [00:30:10] OKAY, UM, MENENDEZ, JORGE MENENDEZ. GOOD MORNING. MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS PARK APPLICATION FOR WORK. MY NAME IS J JIM MENEZ. I'M A FATHER OF 16 YEARS OLD AT WHITE ROCK. WHEN MY SON ENTERED EIGHTH GRADE, HE HAS SPEND MOST OF HIS TIME BEHIND THE SCREEN PLAYING VIDEO GAMES. WE ENCOURAGE HIM TO TRY MANY SPORTS, BUT NONE TRULY CONNECT WITH HIM. EVERYTHING CHANGED. WHEN CLASSMATES INVITED HIM TO THE WHITE ROCK ROW, HE FOUND DISCIPLINE, PURPOSE, AND COMMUNITY THAT BELIEVE IN HIM. OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE WATCHED HIM BECOME A RESPECTFUL, HARDWORKING, AND CONFIDENT JOHN MAY WITH US. YES, HE IS NOW A TEAM CAPTAIN AND THE DISCIPLINE HE LEARNED THROUGH ROBIN HAS CARRIED INTO HIS ACADEMIC AND EVERY PART OF HIS LIFE THIS YEAR IS BOTH WON THE ORIGINAL CHAMPIONSHIP IN OKLAHOMA CITY AND QUALIFIED FOR THE 2026 US ROWING YOUTH NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. HE LATER COMMITTED TO US ROWING B FEST WHERE HE AND HIS PER PARTNER EARNED SECOND PLACE. WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD, BUT EVEN IF HE HAD NEVER WON A RACE OR EARNED A MEDAL, I WILL BE STANDING HERE TODAY. WHY ROWING GAVE MY SON SOMETHING MORE VALUABLE THAN S IT GAVE HIM CONFIDENCE, PURPOSE, FRIENDSHIPS, DISCIPLINE AND COACHES AND MENTORS WHO KNEW HOW TO UNLOCK HIS FULL POTENTIAL. WHY ROCK GROWING AND GROWING PROGRAMS? THAT IS YOUR TIME. IT IS A COMMUNITY WHO THAT'S YOUR TIME. GIMME TWO SECONDS FOR GRACIOUS FAR BEYOND WATER. AS BOTH A PARENT AND ARD ROWING BOARD MEMBER ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKED YOU TO PROTECT THIS PROGRAM AND ALLOW FUTURE GENERATIONS TO RECEIVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY MY SON WAS GIVING CHARNEY. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME'S DR. MATTHEW CHARNEY. I'M HERE WITH MY WIFE, DR. VIRGINIA CHARNEY. UM, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ALSO IN SUPPORT OF WHITE ROCK ROWING AND WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE. UM, I WANTED TO SHARE MY FAMILY'S EXPERIENCE. UM, I GREW UP IN DALLAS AND UM, IN 2020, UM, WE MOVED BACK TO DFW TO OPEN UP, UH, EMERGENCY VETERINARY HOSPITALS AND ONE OF WHICH IS AT KNOX HENDERSON WHERE I CURRENTLY WORK. UM, HOWEVER, WE CHOSE TO LIVE IN LOVEJOY, ISD IN ALLEN BECAUSE OUR SON AXEL, UM, HAS A SEVERE DISABILITY. AT 14 YEARS OLD, HE STILL CANNOT READ TEXTS. UM, HE HAS SEVERE DYSLEXIA DESPITE NORMAL INTELLIGENCE. UM, HE GOES TO LOVEJOY BECAUSE OF THEIR SPECIFIC DYSLEXIA PROGRAMS AND SPORTS, BUT HE'S HAD SIGNIFICANT TROUBLE FITTING IN, UM, AND FINDING HIS PLACE AND HIS PEOPLE. UM, HE SEARCHED AND SEARCHED FROM BOY SCOUTS TO BAND, WHICH I WISH HE WAS STILL DOING, BUT IT'S NOT HIS PLACE. SO FOOTBALL AND HE NEVER FELT ACCEPTED OR COMFORTABLE AND WAS NEVER THERE, NEVER FELT THERE. UM, 2024, WE HAD A ROWING MACHINE BECAUSE I'M NOT A ROWER, BUT WE NEEDED TO GET IN SHAPE. UM, AND HE TRIED IT AND LOVED IT. SO MY WIFE SAID, WELL, CAN, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS? SHE LOOKED ONLINE, SHE FOUND WHITE PROX LEARN TO ROW PROGRAM. UM, HE WENT AND IT WAS A LIGHT SWITCH. IT CAME ON AND HE WAS, HE WAS HOME. HE LOVED THERE THAT THEIR OUTREACH ALLOWED HIM TO FIND HIS PLACE. IT WAS A WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT OF ACCEPTANCE AND THE COACHES AND THE CREW, UM, TOOK HIM IN LIKE PLACES HE'S NEVER BEEN BEFORE. HE GETS UP AT 5:30 AM EVERY DAY TO GET DOWN THERE TO DRIVE DOWN 75, WHICH IS NOT A FUN DRIVE AND HE NEVER, EVER, EVER COMPLAINS. [00:35:01] UM, I'VE READ COMMENTS ABOUT HOW THE BOATHOUSE IS NOT WELCOMING AND INCLUSIVE AND NOT REACHING OUT WELL, WITHOUT THAT OUTREACH, HE WOULDN'T BE THERE, HE WOULDN'T BE ROWING. UM, IT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. CHRISTINA LAFLEUR. HELLO, I'M CHRISTINA LAFLEUR. MY DAUGHTER LEIGHTON IS A COXIN OF WHITE ROCK ROWING. HE'S ACTUALLY OUR THIRD CHILD TO GO THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. OUR OLDEST SON STARTING HERE AS A HIGH SCHOOL FRESHMAN IN 2021, HAVING SPENT HIS THE LAST OF HIS MIDDLE SCHOOL DAYS IN COVID LOCKDOWN WITH WAY TOO MANY VIDEO GAMES. WE WERE THRILLED TO HAVE HIM JOIN THIS TEAM AND MEET KIDS HIS AGE FROM ALL OVER DALLAS. OUR YOUNGER SON GOT STARTED SOON AFTER THEY'RE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND OF COURSE OUR DAUGHTER NOT TO BE OUTSHINED BY HER BROTHERS FOLLOWED SOON AFTER. AND SO WE'VE BEEN WHITE ROCK PARENTS FOR SIX YEARS THROUGH IT ALL. THIS PROGRAM HAS MEANT SO MUCH TO OUR KIDS AND FAMILY. WE'VE SEEN THEM GROW INTO THEMSELVES AS INDIVIDUALS BUILDING INCREDIBLE LASTING FRIENDSHIPS AND GET IN GREAT SHAPE. SEVERAL OF THE COACHES HAVE BECOME REAL MENTORS TO OUR KIDS, HELPING THEM STAY GROUNDED, APPRECIATE THE GAINS THAT COME FROM HARD WORK AND WORK WITH THEM THROUGH HEAVY FEELINGS WHEN LOSS HAS INEVITABLY HAPPEN AND TEACHING THEM TO BE LEADERS AMONGST THEIR YEARS. IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, AS I'M SURE YOU ARE AWARE, THERE HAS BEEN SOME DRAMA SURROUNDING THE TEAM. WE ARE THANKFUL FOR WHITE ROCK LEADERSHIP AND HOW THEY'VE CONDUCTED THEMSELVES. THESE KIDS HAVE BEEN RELYING ON THEM TO PROVIDE A SAFE, COMPETITIVE AND FUN TEAM IN ORDER TO ENJOY THE SPORT THAT THEY LOVE. AND THIS TEAM HAS CONSISTENTLY DELIVERED JUST THAT, DESPITE HAVING TO CONSTANTLY DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST HALF RESEARCH NEWS ACCOUNTS, AND NOW ANONYMOUS SO-CALLED ACCOUNTABILITY WEBSITES, MAKING RIDICULOUS CLAIMS. THE TRUTH IS, Y ROCK LAKE AND THE DALLAS AREA DESERVE TO HAVE A VIBRANT WATER SPORT COMMUNITY FULL OF SAILING, FISHING, KAYAKING, CROWING PEOPLE ENJOYING THE WONDERFUL COMMUNITY RESOURCES TO ITS FULLEST. ROWING IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING SPORTS IN TEXAS AND HAVING MORE ROWING TEAMS IN DALLAS CREATE A HEALTHY, THRIVING COMMUNITY THAT HOLDS EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE, KEEPING COACHES AND ROWERS ALIKE, PUSHING TO BE THEIR ABSOLUTE BEST AS A RESIDENT OF EAST DALLAS AND A PARENT WHOSE KIDS HAVE BEEN SO POSITIVELY IMPACTED BY THIS TEAM. AND MS, I'M ASKING THAT YOU HONOR THE CONTRACTS WITH WHITE ROCK BONE HOUSE AND HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS AND CONFIRM THE RENEWAL. THANK YOU. OKAY, SMOOTS LONNIE SMOOTS. HELLO. THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. I HAVE HERE MY KEYS HERE FOR CHIEF AND THE, UH, TENANT PROGRAM THAT SET UP THERE. UH, MY CHILD JOINED TWO YEARS AGO, ALMOST TWO YEARS SHY, TWO YEARS NOW, AND UM, IT'S BEEN SUCH A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE THAT KIDS THERE REALLY EARN THE RIGHT TO BE THERE AND REPRESENT KEYS AND THE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY HERE IN OAKLAND. BUT THERE'S KIDS THAT TRAVEL PRETTY FAR AND METROPLEX JUST TO BE A PART OF THE PROGRAM AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UM, UM, WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT THEY CAN ENGAGE IN AND THRIVE IN AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF 'EM. AND IT'S ACTUALLY A SMALL PROGRAM. I BELIEVE THIS MEETING WAS TO, UH, REVIEW THE NEW PROCESS FOR, UM, CORPORATE FUNDING. IS THAT CORRECT? I'M NOT SURE. UM, BUT ANY INFORMATION THAT WE COULD GET, UM, GO FORWARD AND SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR. SO, UM, PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND AND, AND LET'S KEEP GOING. THANK YOU. THOMAS CARR. LET'S REMIND EVERYONE THAT APPLAUSE, UH, IN BETWEEN THE NEXT SPEAKER AGAIN HERE, THERE MAY BE, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'VE STARTED GROWING AT WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE WHEN I WAS REFURBISHED THE BOATHOUSE AT TMP HILL IN 2005. WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE HAD VISION AND RAISED THE CAPITAL TO DO THAT PROJECT THEMSELVES. WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE, AGAIN, HAD UNIQUE VISION TO RESTORE THE DANGEROUS AND DECAYING FILTER BUILDING AND BUILD A BOATHOUSE OUT OF THE TANKS. AGAIN, A SELF-FUNDED EFFORT. I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO READ MANY OF THE [00:40:01] LETTERS OF GRATITUDE FROM, UH, STUDENTS AND PARENTS THANKING THEM FOR THE EXPERIENCE AND FOR THE FINANCIAL AID THAT WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE. WHITE ROCK BOAT HOUSE CONTINUES TO SUCCESSFULLY RUN THE PROGRAMS. I CONTINUE TO SEE THE LAUGHTER, COMRADERY, AND PERSONAL GROWTH BY DALLAS YOUTH AND ADULTS THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAMS NOW. OTHERS WANT TO TAKE WITHOUT CAUSE. WHAT WHITE ROCK BOAT HOUSE BUILT, THE STRATEGY HAS BEEN TO ATTACK WITH CUTS AND BLEEDING AND THEN CA CLAIM THAT WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE IS ANEMIC, BUT IT IS NOT IN SPITE OF THE CONTINUAL HARASSMENT, MISINFORMATION AND MISCHARACTERIZATIONS WHITE ROCK BOAT HOUSE CONTINUES TO BE HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL AND IS DOING WELL. IT'S ROWERS FALL IN LOVE WITH WHITE ROCK LAKE PARK AND SUCCESSFULLY COMPETE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. GIVE WHY ROCKWELL HOUSE, THE SPACE AND THE PEACE TO CONTINUE ITS MISSION OF BRINGING WARS AND OPPORTUNITY TO THE COMMUNITY AND PARTICULARLY THE YOUTH OF DALLAS. THANK YOU. IS LIZETTE SMO LIZETTE SMOS MAY A VIRTUAL SPEAKER? I DO NOT SEE THEM ONLINE. LIZETTE SMOOTS. OKAY, MOVING TO THE NEXT SARAH RUMBLES. SARAH RUMBLES. YES, I'M ONLINE. OH, THANK YOU. YOU YOU MAY BEGIN. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. MY NAME'S SARAH CRU AND I'M HERE TODAY AS WELL IN TO SUPPORT WHITE ROCK ROWING. UM, AS SARAH, I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WATCHING FIRSTHAND THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT WHITE ROCK ROWING PROGRAM HAS HAD ON YOUNG PEOPLE. MY DAUGHTER SPECIFICALLY STARTED THE PROGRAM TWO YEARS, ZERO EXPERIENCE ON THE WATER, ZERO EXPERIENCE WITH BOATS. AND AS I WENT DOWN TO WATCH HER AFTER A FEW PRACTICES, MY JAW JUST HIT THE FLOOR. SHE IS CARRYING BOATS, SHE'S LAUNCHING BOATS. SHE'S CONFIDENTLY, UM, ROWING THE BOAT. WE ARE WA WATCHING ON THE SPILLWAY AND JUST THRILLED THAT SHE HAS FOUND SOMETHING THAT IS OUTSIDE, THAT IS COLLABORATIVE, THAT SUPPORTS TEAMWORK AND THAT SHE LOVES. SHE GETS UP EVERY DAY FOR PRACTICE, ZERO COMPLAINTS, SOMETIMES IN THE DARK, SOMETIMES IT'S COLD, AND SHE RIDES HER BIKE DOWN AND SHE'S THRILLED TO BE THERE. IT'S TRULY BEEN THE BEST PROGRAM WE'VE EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN. IT'S COMPLETELY INCLUSIVE, IT'S COMPLETELY SUPPORTIVE. SHE WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET TO GO WITH THE TEAM TO NATIONALS THIS YEAR, WHICH WILL FOREVER BE A CORE MEMORY FOR HER. UM, AND TODAY IS ACTUALLY MY DAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY. SHE TURNED 14 AND ABOUT AN HOUR AGO I GAVE HER A PHONE FOR THE FIRST TIME, WHICH AS A PARENT, THIS IS SCARY. AND SO SHE'S GOING TO HIGH SCHOOL. SHE HAS A PHONE AND JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, I'M TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO KEEP HER OFF HER DEVICE. SHE HAS IT TO BE OUTSIDE. I WANT HER TO HAVE REAL EXPERIENCES, TALK TO REAL PEOPLE, UM, AND LEARN SKILLS IN REAL LIFE. AND THAT IS WHAT WHITE ROCK ROWING DOES FOR US. SHE IS THRILLED TO BE THERE. OBVIOUSLY ON THE BOAT YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR PHONE AND SO I DON'T TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED. THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE NEED FOR HER IN HER LIFE. AND MY SON IS SIGNED UP TO JOIN NEXT YEAR AND HE'S IN SIXTH GRADE AND WE'VE GOT A WHOLE GROUP OF FRIENDS FOR HIM JOINING AS WELL. BASICALLY MY MAIN THING PRE PREPARING FOR THE MEETING TODAY IS WHY ARE WE HERE? I READ THE REPORT PUBLISHED BY WHITE ROCK BONE, WHICH YOU TWO AS WELL, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE YET. I'M A LAWYER WHO APPRECIATES A BALLOT CONTRACT, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU CAN TELL WHO EVER ATTACKING WHITE ROCK ROWING HAS AN AGENDA. I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO SUPPORT WHITE ROCK ROWING AND SUPPORT OUR KIDS YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JULIET MOLINA, GOOD MORNING. UM, OBVIOUSLY I'M A KEITH PARENT AND I THINK THAT REALLY WHAT THIS BOILS DOWN TO AS WE GO INTO THIS NEXT CYCLE OF THIS, THIS, THIS NEXT RFP, IS WE WOULD NOT BE HERE IF THE ORIGINAL RFP CAPTURED THE VALUE THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT TO KEITH TENNIS CENTER BY DTEA. THAT IS WHAT IT REALLY FAILED TO CAPTURE. ALL OF THE VOLUNTEER HOURS, THE FREE YOUTH PROGRAMMING, THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE, THE JUNIORS PROGRAM, NONE OF THAT WAS CAPTURED WITHIN THE, THE PREVIOUS RFP. OKAY. AT THE END OF AN RFP PROCESS, OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD BE MADE BETTER AND IT DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT BE MADE WORSE OFF. OKAY, SO IF WE LOOK AT OUR CURRENT PROGRAMMING DOWN THERE, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE MAINTAINED IS THE FREE YOUTH PROGRAMMING, THE JUNIORS PROGRAM, THE HIGH QUALITY JUNIORS PROGRAM AT WHICH IS VERY AFFORDABLE. IT INCLUDES ACADEMIC TUTORING, [00:45:01] THERE'S VOLUNTEER REQUIREMENTS TO DEVELOP THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE INDIVIDUAL. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RFP CAPTURES ALL THE REQUESTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOT SIMPLY FOCUSES ON THINGS LIKE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, ALTHOUGH THE, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY IS VERY IMPORTANT, OKAY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CAPTURES THE VALUE OF THE UNDER 18 PROGRAMMING THAT WE HAVE DOWN THERE. WE KNOW THAT MOST OF THE FEES FOR COURT FEES, ET CETERA, ARE SET CITYWIDE. SO THAT IS NOT WHAT'S AT THE CONCERN HERE. THE CONCERN IS THE RISK OF THE LOSS OF YOUTH PROGRAMMING. I MADE THE ATTEMPT TO TRY TO GET THE OLD RFP SO THAT I COULD LOOK, TO LOOK AT IT, TAKE AND HELP. YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE OLD CRITERIA, MY REQUEST TO PROCUREMENT WENT UNANSWERED PRIMARILY. AND I FINALLY DID RECEIVE A RESPONSE YESTERDAY SAYING THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST. SO I'M IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SO, SO THAT I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND AGAIN, TAKE A LOOK AT THE RFP SO THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW RT CAPTURES EVERYTHING. JULIE AND MELINA, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JULIAN. I PARTICIPATED IN THE DENNIS SAID PROGRAM AT HOUSTON CENTER. I WANTED, THAT IS FOR A WHILE NOW. HE, I HAVE BEEN ATTENDING FOR A WHILE NOW IN LOVE THAT I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN TENNIS AND I KNEW I AM GETTING BETTER EVERY TIME I PRACTICE. ONE OF THOSE IMPORTANT THINGS IS FREE YOUTH PROGRAMMING, IS THAT, UM, SO ANY KID CAN AT ATTEND CAN I KNOW THAT NOT ALL MOMS AND DADS CAN AFFORD PAYING SOS LESSONS, SO, SO IT CAN, IT, IT BEING FREE, MORE KIDS CAN COME LEARN. PLEASE MAKE SURE FREE PROGRAMMING STAYS AT KEY STAND. IF WE CAN THEN KEEP COACH CAROL AND COACH JOSE THAT THAT IS EVEN BETTER. JULIANA, THANKS FOR COMING. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. PAM MANAHAN, I BELIEVE IT SAYS VIRTUAL SPEAKER. DO WE HAVE MS. MANAHAN? YES. YES. LET ME SEE MY CAMERA. OH, THERE I AM. HI. YOU CAN START MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY. MY NAME IS PAM MANAHAN. I'VE LIVED IN LAKEWOOD HEIGHTS FOR 32 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE WHITE ROCK COMMUNITY FOR ABOUT 10. MY DAUGHTER RODE WITH WHITE ROCK PROGRAM DURING HIGH SCHOOL, THE PROGRAM BROUGHT TOGETHER STUDENTS FROM PUBLIC, PRIVATE, AND HOMESCHOOLED BACKGROUNDS. I TRULY BELIEVE THIS SPORT HELPS SHAPE THE HARDWORKING, RESPONSIBLE YOUNG WOMAN SHE IS TODAY. THE PROGRAM TEACHES ACCOUNTABILITY, TEAMWORK, AND DISCIPLINE BOTH ACADEMICALLY AND ATHLETICALLY. YOUNG PEOPLE BUILD LIFELONG FRIENDSHIPS AND GROW IN CONFIDENCE AND CHARACTER FOR SOMEBODY THAT OPENS THE DOOR FOR A COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIP. THE BOATHOUSE IS HOME TO MANY ROWING PROGRAMS, INCLUDING WHITE ROCKS, YOUTH ADAPTIVE AND MASTERS, AS WELL AS URSULINE JESUIT AND SMU WOMEN'S ROWING TEAM. HAVING COLLEGIATE ATHLETES TRAINING ALONGSIDE YOUNGER ROWERS PROVIDES INSPIRATION FOR THOSE WHO DREAM OF ROWING IN COLLEGE. DESPITE THE FACILITIES BUSY SCHEDULE, THESE TEAMS ARE RESPECTFUL AND SUPPORTIVE, CREATING A STRONG SENSE OF COOPERATION AND SHARED PURPOSE. PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THE LONGSTANDING SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH THESE PROGRAMS. FOR THE PAST 18 YEARS, THE BOATHOUSE HAS SERVED AS RESPONSIBLE STEWARDS OF THE CITY AND LAKE VOLUNTEERS CLEAN THE SHORELINE, CREWS REMOVE FALLEN [00:50:01] TREES AND DEBRIS FROM THE WATER. THESE CONTRIBUTE TO SAFETY, ENHANCE PUBLIC ASSETS, AND HELP PRESERVE THE LAKE FOR EVERYONE WHO IS ON OR AROUND IT. I DON'T TRULY FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CONTRACTUAL OR POLITICAL ISSUES AROUND THIS MATTER, BUT WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND IS THE VALUE OF THE PROGRAM AND THE DIFFERENCE IT MAKES IN THE LIVES OF SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE. I HOPE ABOVE ALL ELSE, YOU'LL KEEP THE CHILDREN AT THE CENTER OF YOUR DECISION AND THOUGHTFULLY CONSIDER THE IMPACT YOUR DECISION WILL HAVE ON THEM. I'VE SEEN ADULT COMPLEX OVERSHADOW WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE CHILDREN INVOLVED, LEAVING LASTING CONSEQUENCES BEHIND. I HOPE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION. SPEAKER IS VIRTUAL. WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE SMOS LIZETTE SMOS. YOU CAN TURN YOUR CAMERA ON. THERE IT GOES. OKAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. CAN YOU SEE YOU? YES, WE CAN SEE YOU. OKAY. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. UH, UM, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS LISA SMO AND MY DAUGHTER PARTICIPATES IN THE DTEA TENNIS PROGRAM AT CASE TENNIS CENTER. THIS PROGRAM GOES FAR BEYOND TEACHING TENNIS. IT EMPHASIZES EDUCATIONAL ACHIEVEMENT, FELLOWSHIP, VOLUNTEERISM, AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF CONFIDENCE AND LEADERSHIP SKILLS. D-T-T-D-T-E-A IS TRULY SHAPING AND PREPARING ITS PARTICIPANTS FOR FUTURE SUCCESS BY INSTILLING VALUES THAT EXTEND WELL BEYOND THE COURSE. SINCE JOINING THE PROGRAM, I'VE SEEN A REMARKABLE DIFFERENCE IN MY DAUGHTER. SHE HAS NOT ONLY DEVELOPED HER TENNIS SKILLS, BUT SHE HAS ALSO EMBRACED THE IMPORTANCE OF VOLUNTEERING, MENTORING OTHERS, AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. THESE ARE QUALITIES THAT WILL SERVE HER THROUGHOUT HER LIFE. I WOULD ASK HOW MANY PROGRAMS CAN TRULY SAY THAT THEY HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTILLED THESE PRIORITIES IN YOUNG PEOPLE. WE RECENTLY RETURNED FROM A TENNIS TOURNAMENT AND THE EXPERIENCE WOULD, UM, WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE PROGRAM. DGEA PROVIDED MY DAUGHTER AND OTHER PARTICIPANTS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE, LEARN, AND GROW AT, AT NO COST TO THE FAMILIES. THE POSITIVE IMPACT THIS PROGRAM HAS ON THE PARTICIPANTS IS IMMEASURABLE AND I SINCERELY AM GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT CONTINUES TO PROVIDE TO OUR CHILDREN AND COMMUNITY. UH, THANK YOU FOR, FOR LISTENING AND I HOPE YOU TAKE THIS INTO YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. ALSO, VIRTUAL MARTA VILLANOVA. MARTA BARISTA VILLANOVA. YOU CAN TURN YOUR CAMERA ON HIS VILLANOVA. HI, I AM HERE. GREAT. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY. UM, MY NAME IS MARISSA. MY DAUGHTER IS SIX YEARS OLD AND SHE'S TRIED A LOT OF DIFFERENT SPORTS. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN HEAR ME OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. UM, BEFORE FINDING DTEA, SHE WOULD GIVE UP, UM, PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING. SHE WAS ADDICTED TO YOUTUBE AND, UM, PLAYING ROBLOX AND DOING ALL THE THINGS THAT KIDS DO. BUT AFTER STARTING AT DTEA, SHE FOUND A PLACE WHERE SHE FIT IN. WE FOUND COACHES AND MENTORS TO HELP HER. SHE'S EXCITED TO GO TO PRACTICE. WE'VE TRIED GYMNASTICS, WE TRIED SOCCER, WE TRIED, UM, WE TRIED DOING PICKLEBALL EVEN, WHICH IS CLOSE FOR SOME REASON. DTEA IS SOMEWHERE WHERE SHE FELT LIKE SHE FIT IN. IT'S THE COMMUNITY, IT'S THE COACHES, IT'S THE OTHER CHILDREN THAT ARE INVOLVED. UM, I'M A SINGLE PARENT, SO I'M VERY POOR. AND DTEA HAS BEEN LITERALLY PRICELESS. IT'S BEEN A GEM. UM, I RECOMMEND THE PROGRAM TO EVERY FAMILY MEMBER, FRIENDS, ANYBODY WHO'S IN THE AREA WHO CAN JOIN. UM, MY DAUGHTER ASKED TO GO TO TENNIS, EVEN IF IT'S 98 DEGREES OUTSIDE AND I DON'T WANT HER TO GO. SHE WANTS TO GO, SHE BEG. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE PROGRAM WE HAVE IN PLACE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK OTHERWISE THAT SHE WOULD HAVE THE SAME IMPACT. I THINK TO BE VERY DISCOURAGED OR CRY, I THINK SHE WOULD LOSE THE COMMUNITY THAT SHE FINDS HOME AND FAMILY IN. UM, MY FAMILY'S IN SAN DIEGO, SO THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. UM, I JUST WANNA SAY, PLEASE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THIS INCREDIBLE COMMUNITY ASSET AND ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN ANY PLANS IN THE FUTURE. UM, ON THE MANAGEMENT OF THE TENNIS FACILITY, UM, THERE'S A PHRASE, NOTHING ABOUT US WITHOUT US, AND I JUST WANT FOR, UM, THE BOARDS TO REMEMBER THAT THE COMMUNITY IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST AFFECTED BY THE DECISIONS THAT YOU I, THE NEXT [00:55:01] SPEAKER, EXCUSE ME, IS PAUL. UM, FAREN. GOOD MORNING. UH, I'M PAUL FAREN GROUP AND I'M HERE SUPPORT FILTER BUILDING AND BOATHOUSE. UH, I'M NOT ON THE BOARD. I'M NOT ASSOCIATED WITH BUILDING PROGRAM. I WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER WHEN THE BUILDING WAS REDONE, UH, A FEW YEARS AGO. UH, AND ALSO AFTER THE RECENT FIRE THREE HISTORY FILTER BUILDING STARTED IN 23, OPERATED FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS, SHUT DOWN, CAME BACK AGAIN FOR A COUPLE YEARS IN THE FIFTIES AND WAS FINALLY SHUTTERED COMPLETELY. 64. SAT THERE NEGLECTED BUILDING ALL THE WINDOWS IN WITH BRICK. UH, THE UPSTAIRS STILL HAD THE CHEMICALS FROM THE WATER PURIFICATION WHERE THE, THE BOATHOUSE IS NOW. WE TOOK OVER 1100 LOADS AND DEBRIS OUT OF THERE TO CREATE THAT SPACE. THIS PROJECT WAS A VISION BY JOHN MULLEY. HE ENVISIONED THE FILTER BUILDING AND THE BOATHOUSE. UH, AND IT HAS WORKED SO SUCCESSFULLY. THE PROGRAM CURRENTLY, UH, EVOLVED OVER 300. IT HAS MORE THAN $50,000 AWARDED IN SCHOLARSHIPS. UH, THERE ARE COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE GETTING ROWING SCHOLARSHIPS. IT IS ONE OF THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER EVENTS SPACES IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. THERE WAS ALMOST $3 MILLION RAISED ON THIS . NOT ALL POLITICS. THERE HAS BEEN A CONCERTED AND ORCHESTRATED EFFORT TO ALIGN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEIR, THEIR BOARD. THE INACCURATE AND INCOMPLETE INFORMATION IS GIVEN TO THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS AND OTHER MEDIA WAS SUPPLIED BY AND HAS BEEN REPEATED BY PUBLIC HISTORY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HER. STEPHANIE HERD. HI, MY NAME IS ACTUALLY, LIL WAS A MESS UP WITH THIS. OKAY. HI, MY NAME IS LILIANA HERD. I'M 13 YEARS OLD IN THIS WRONG ALGAE. ATTENDING GEORGE BANNERMAN DAILY MONTESSORI ACADEMY. I'VE BEEN GOING TO KEYS TENNIS CENTER FOR MORE THAN A YEAR AND A HALF, AND MY LIFE WOULD NOT BE THE SAME WITHOUT IT. MY BROTHER AND I HAVE BOTH BEEN BOTH BEEN DEEPLY IMPACTED BY THE COACHES, TEAMMATES, AND COMMUNITY. WE HAVE FOUND AS A GIRL OF MULTIPLE RACES, AFRICAN AMERICAN, WHITE, AND HISPANIC. I HAVE SOMETIMES BEEN JUDGED BECAUSE OF WHO I AM. I'VE BEEN CALLED WHITEWASHED, TOLD I WAS NOT BLACK ENOUGH OR EVEN I WAS TOO BLACK. THOSE COMMENTS MADE IT DIFFICULT AT TIMES TO FEEL LIKE I TRULY BELONGED. AT ONE POINT, MY GRADES BEGAN TO DROP AND I WAS NOT DOING AS WELL AS I KNEW I COULD. THAT BEGAN TO CHANGE. WHEN I STARTED PLAYING TENNIS AT KEITH TENNIS CENTER, I BECAME MORE CONFIDENT, CONNECTED WITH MORE PEOPLE AND STARTED THRIVING AGAIN IN SCHOOL. MY COACHES TAUGHT ME HOW TO MANAGE MY EMOTIONS BOTH ON AND OFF THE COURT. THEY ALSO TAUGHT ME THAT TENNIS IS NOT ONLY ABOUT STRENGTH, IT REQUIRES STRATEGY, PATIENCE, DISCIPLINE, AND LEARNING. TO MOVE THE ATTENTION, I NOW TRY TO PASS THOSE LESSONS ON TO YOUNGER PLAYERS. KEY'S. TENNIS CENTER IS NOT JUST A FACILITY, IT'S A FAMILY. IT'S AFFORDABLE. PROGRAMS GIVE CHILDREN, INCLUDING THOSE WITH A DHD AND OTHER DISABILITIES THAT PLACE TO REMAIN ACTIVE WITH CONFIDENCE AND RECEIVE SUPPORT. AS SOMEONE WITH A DHD, I KNOW HOW MUCH PHYSICAL ACTIVITY HELPS ME FOCUS, MATCH MY EMOTIONS AND SUCCEED IN SCHOOL. PLEASE CONSIDER THE MANY FAMILIES WHOSE CHILDREN DEPEND ON THIS PROGRAM. I HOPE WE WILL PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY AND ALL ALLOW THE COACHES WHO BUILT IT TO CONTINUE CHANGING LIVES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. STEVEN MARLEY, THE VIRTUAL SPEAKER. MR. MARLEY, IF YOU CAN TURN YOUR CAMERA ON. THERE WE GO. HI, GOOD MORNING. UH, MY NAME IS STEVEN MARLEY. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF DALLAS FOR 31 YEARS. I CURRENTLY ATTEND ADULT CLINICS AND MY SON IS PART OF THE JUNIOR COMPETITIVE PROGRAM AT KEYS TENNIS CENTER, WHICH MEANS THAT I'M AT THE CENTER FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK. IT IS OUR HOME AWAY FROM HOME, AND SO KEITH IS A SPECIAL PLACE IN OUR FAMILY. [01:00:02] WHAT I'VE SEEN AT KEY IS THAT DTEA PROVIDES HIGH QUALITY TENNIS PROGRAMS FOR ALL AGES THAT ARE ACCESSIBLE AND THEY PUSH THEIR YOUTH TO DO SO MUCH MORE. BUILD CONFIDENCE AND RESILIENCE, PROVIDE COMMUNITY SERVICE AND FOSTER LEADERSHIP. THERE SHOULDN'T BE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION FOR THE CITY OWNED TENNIS CENTERS. EACH COMMUNITY IS UNIQUE. WHAT WORKS IN EAST AND NORTH DALLAS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AND SHOULDN'T BE THE SAME AS OAK CLIFF. MM-HMM . I AND MANY OTHERS WANT THE PARKS AND REC BOARD TO DEVELOP AN RFP THAT EVALUATES THE FUTURE MANAGEMENT OF KEITH TENNIS CENTER ON A BROADER SET OF METRICS. ONES THAT INCLUDE NOT ONLY REVENUE AND VISITS, BUT OTHERS SUCH AS COMMUNITY IMPACT, ATTENDEE SATISFACTION, YOUTH MENTORSHIP, LEADERSHIP AND COMMUNITY ACCESS, EFFECTIVELY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS USED TO HAVING AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO MAINTAIN. I'M NOT FULLY AWARE OF THIS BOARD'S PROCESS, BUT I TRULY HOPE THAT YOU'LL INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY AND SOLICIT ITS FEEDBACK TO DEVELOP THE RFP AND THROUGHOUT THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, AS I'M SURE YOU CAN SEE TODAY BY ALL OF THE ATTENDEES THERE AND, AND VIRTUALLY THIS COMMUNITY IS INVESTED IN AND CARES ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS FACILITY AND ITS DIRECT IMPACT. THANK YOU. UM, TARANA, OR SORRY, HOW DID YOU SPEND YOUR SUMMERS WHEN YOU WERE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HOW DID THOSE ACTIVITIES HELP WHO YOU ARE TODAY? GOOD MORNING CLERK BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ZA. I'M A RISING EIGHTH GRADER AT WILLIAM B. TRAVIS. THIS SUMMER SHOWED ME JUST HOW MUCH KEY TENNIS CENTER I SHOWED WITH WYOMING GOING. I SPENT 90 DAYS AT KEYS FROM THE MORNING TILL NIGHT. I ATTENDED SUMMER CAMP, VOLUNTEERED BY AL COACH YOUNGER PLAYERS, HELPED GARDEN AND CLEAN UP TENNIS, MY TENNIS CENTER ONCE DURING TOURNAMENTS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS AND SPENT MY BASE AND I PLACED THAT BUILD LIKE A SECOND HALF OF GAME THIS SUMMER. I WAS SELECTED TO ATTEND THE NATIONAL TENNIS COMPETITION IN NORTHERN FLORIDA. ALONG WITH MANY OTHER JUNIOR PLAYERS IN VIS FROM KEYS. OUR FAMILIES DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PAYING FOR THE TRIP BECAUSE DALLAS TENNIS AND EDUCATION ACADEMY MADE IT POSSIBLE. I'VE ALSO, I'VE ALSO EXPERIENCED AN OPPORTUNITY I NEVER IMAGINED I'VE BEFORE THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL AND SHARED MY STORY ABOUT WHY KEYS MATTERS TO ME. THIS EXPERIENCE SHOWED ME THAT WHEN YOUNG PLAYERS SPEED UP ADULTS REALLY DO LISTEN. I WILL CARRY THIS FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. I'M HERE BECAUSE KEITH MEANS MORE THAN JUST TEST GOALS. I'M ALSO HERE BECAUSE MY LITTLE BROTHER PLAYS TENNIS, THAT HE'S JUST LIKE ME. HE LOOKS UP TO ME AND I WANNA BE A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR HIM ON AND OFF THE COURT. KEITH IS A PLACE WHERE YOUNG PLAYERS LEARN LEADERSHIP, RESPONSIBILITY, CONFIDENCE, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF GIVING BACK. OH, IT IS WHERE I HAVE MADE NEW FRIENDS, MY COACHES WHO BECAME MY MENTORS AND I LEARNED IMPORTANT LIFE SKILLS LIKE DISCIPLINE OF WORK AND ACADEMIA. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE Y'ALL TO VISIT KEITH, STUDY OUR PRACTICE. WE'LL SEE MANY KIDS, KIDS WORKING HARD, ENCOURAGING OTHERS, AND VOLUNTEERING AND GROWING THROUGH THIS PROGRAM. I HOPE YOU'LL COME TO SEE FOR YOURSELF LIKE KEY KEITH TENNIS CENTER IN DALLAS TENNIS AND EDUCATION ACADEMY ARE SO IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. STEPHANIE ORRAN. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS S MIRANDA. I'M A PARENT AT KEITH TENNIS CENTER. I'M ACTUALLY AT MOM. WHAT IS THE FIRST IMAGE THAT COMES TO YOUR MIND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE WEEK NIGHT IN SALVO? I AM HERE BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT IS THE DALLAS TENNIS EDUCATION ACADEMY, A NONPROFIT UNDER THE DALLAS TENNIS ASSOCIATION TO CONTINUE MANAGING HIS EAST TENNIS CENTER AND TO CONTINUE SERVING THE COMMUNITY FROM THE DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS THEY CHAMPION. EAST IS MUCH MORE THAN A TENNIS FACILITY. IT'S A COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE CHILDREN RECEIVE COACHING, MENTORSHIP, ACADEMIC SUPPORT, LEADERSHIP ACTIVITIES, AND ACCESS TO ATHLETIC PROGRAMS AND EXPERIENCES THAT MANY FAMILIES COULD NOT OTHERWISE AFFORD. IN RETURN, EACH PARTICIPANT IS REQUIRED TO GIVE BACK AND COMPLETE AT LEAST 60 HOURS OF COMMUNITY SERVICE. LOSING THESE PROGRAMS WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY TO OUR YOUTH IN SOUTH DALLAS. AN AREA THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS EXACTLY WHAT THIS ACADEMY OFFERS. THEY PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE BE UNAVAILABLE IN OUR AREA. THESE PROGRAMS SHOULD BE PROTECTED AND CONSIDERED AN ESSENTIAL PART WHEN EVALUATING FUTURE PROPOSALS. AS YOU PREPARE NEW RFP, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STARTS AT EASE SO THAT RESIDENTS CAN PARTICIPATE BEFORE DECISIONS ARE MADE AND THAT AND THE EVALUATION CRITERIA RECOGNIZE WHAT MATTERS MOST TO THIS COMMUNITY. ALTHOUGH THESE PROGRAMS ARE FREE OR LOW COST FOR FAMILIES, THEY REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT BY THE DALLAS FITNESS AND EDUCATION ACADEMY, AN INVESTMENT THAT SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS PART OF THE EVALUATION PROCESS, AN INVESTMENT THEY ARE MAKING IN THE CITIZENS OF DALLAS. I URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER AND RECOGNIZE THE POWER THAT ARE PROGRAMS HAVE PROGRAMS THAT CHANGE LIVES, UPLIFT OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SUPPORT TO OUR YOUTH. SO THE NEXT TIME YOU TAKE A ABOUT A WEEKDAY NIGHT IN SOUTH DALLAS, I HOPE TO THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO CAME TO PRACTICE AFTER HAVING JUST FINISHED A FULL DAY OF SCHOOL BUT DECIDED TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING BIGGER THAN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THAT IS KEITH TENNIS CENTER. OUR FINAL SPEAKER IS SARAH DELANO. [01:05:07] GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK THIS MORNING. MY NAME IS SARAH DELANO. I AM A PROUD RESIDENT OF EAST DALLAS, A LIFELONG AMPUTEE AND ADOPTIVE ROWER WITH WHITE ROCK ROWING. IT WAS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO COME TO YOU THIS MORNING BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE EXTENT TO WHICH WHITE ROCK ROWING INVESTS IN ROWERS LIKE ME WHO OTHERWISE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ROW. OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE CITY OF DALLAS HAS INVESTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO UPDATE PARKS ACROSS THE CITY SO THAT CHILDREN WITH DIFFERENCES IN SENSORY AND ALSO WITH PHYSICAL DISABILITIES CAN ACCESS ONE PARKS FOR OVER A DECADE. WHITE ROCK ROWING IS LIVING OUT THE MISSION OF MAKING SURE DALLAS IS ACCESSIBLE TO ALL RESIDENTS. BY INVESTING IN AN ADAPTIVE ROWING PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, LESS THAN 10% OF CITIZENS WITH SIGNIFICANT DISABILITIES ARE ABLE TO WORK. THIS MEANS THAT THE FINANCES, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES MAY NOT HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS LIKE MINE. AT WHITE ROCK ROWING, THE CLUB HAS DECIDED TO OFFER REDUCED MEMBERSHIP FOR ADAPTIVE GROWERS. SO FOR A FULL YEAR, ADAPTIVE GROWERS CAN PARTICIPATE IN ROWING FOR LESS THAN $2 A WEEK. BECAUSE OF THIS INVESTMENT, BOTH IN TERMS OF FEES AND ALSO IN THE EQUIPMENT THAT WHITE ROCK MAKES AVAILABLE FOR FAT GROWERS AND FOR VOLUNTEERS LIKE LISA MARY WHO ARE HERE TODAY AND COME EVERY SINGLE WEEK TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES CAN ACCESS ROWING. IT HAS AN INDELIBLE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY AND ROWERS LIKE ME. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE UM, THERE IS A STEPHANIE, HER STEPHANIE HERD. THANK. HELLO. GOOD MORNING. UH, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE HERD AND I AM THE MOTHER OF LILANA AND LUCAS. FROM MORE THAN A YEAR AND A HALF, ALEX TENNIS IN EDUCATION ACADEMY AT PEACE TENNIS CENTER HAS PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN MY CHILDREN'S LIVES. WHAT THEY RECEIVE HERE EXTENDS FAR BEYOND TENNIS. THEY HAVE FOUND STRUCTURE, ENCOURAGEMENT, MEANINGFUL RELATIONSHIPS, AND A PLACE WHERE THEY FEEL SUPPORTED. BOTH OF MY CHILDREN HAVE A DHD AND LUCAS ALSO HAS DYSLEXIA. THE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, CONSISTENCY AND DISCIPLINE OF TENNIS HELPS THEM REGULATE THEIR EMOTIONS, STAY FOCUSED AND BUILD CONFIDENCE. FOR LILANA EAST HAS HELPED HER BECOME MORE SELF-ASSURED AND INTENTION, BOTH ON AND OFF THE COURT. SHE HAS LEARNED TO RECOVER FROM MISTAKES, MANAGE FRUSTRATION, AND ENCOURAGED YOUNGER PLAYERS. SHE HAS ALSO INSPIRED BY FORMER JUNIOR PLAYERS WHO RETURNED AS COLLEGE STUDENTS, COACHES, AND ROLE MODELS. LUCAS IS DEVELOPING HIS OWN SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY THROUGH HIS VOLUNTEER HOURS WITH THE JUNIOR DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. HE ENJOYS HELPING YOUNGER CHILDREN AND TAKES GREAT PRIDE IN KNOWING THAT HIS TIME AND EFFORT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE AS THEIR MOTHER. I'VE WATCHED KEITH STRENGTHEN THEIR CHARACTER, RESILIENCE AND SENSE OF BELONGING. AS YOU EVALUATE PROPOSALS FOR KEITH TENNIS CENTER. PLEASE CONSIDER THE IMPACT THIS PROGRAM HAS ON CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WHO MAY NOT OTHERWISE HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE TENNIS, POSITIVE GUIDANCE AND YEAR ROUND OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW. PLEASE KEEP YOUTH AND FAMILIES THE CENTER OF THIS PROCESS. ENSURE THE EVALUATION REMAINS FAIR AND INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY AND DECISIONS ABOUT KEITH'S FUTURE. NOTHING ABOUT US WITHOUT US. PLEASE THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESILIENCY. EXCUSE ME, PLEASE. BOARD, I REGISTERED AS A SPEAKER. MY NAME IS MARK JOSEPH. I WAS NUMBER 12. I APOLOGIZE. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD . WELL NOW YOU KNOW I'M MARK JOSEPH. THAT'S THANK AND I CHOOSE TO ROW WITH THE WHITE ROCK ROCK ROWING PROGRAM. I WAS A MEMBER OF COXSWAIN OF THE NAVAL ACADEMY ROWING TEAM IN 1971 TO 1975 AFTER ACTIVE DUTY AS A SUBMARINE [01:10:01] OFFICER. AND SINCE LAW SCHOOL, I PRACTICE LAW IN DALLAS FOR OVER 40, 42 YEARS, 30 YEARS. AS GENERAL COUNSEL OF A MULTINET, I JOINED THE MASTER'S ROWING PROGRAM AT WHITE ROCK 2022 TO RECONNECT WITH THIS SPORT, BUT REALLY TO SUPPORT THE, THE EFFORTS OF THE ROWING PROGRAM TO PROVIDE ROWING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO DO IT ON THEIR OWN FINANCIALLY. FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AT THE NAVAL ACADEMY AND AS A SUBMARINE OFFICER, I KNOW ROWING TEACHES LESSONS IN LEADERSHIP, ACCOUNTABILITY, SELF-CONFIDENCE, TEAMWORK, AND FITNESS FOR LIFE. WHITE ROCK ROWING PROVIDES THESE LESSONS AND AT A COMPLETELY HIGH LEVEL AND HELPS PREPARE GROWERS AFTER HIGH SCHOOL AND HELPS PREPARE OUR GROWERS LIFE AFTER HIGH SCHOOL. AS AN ATTORNEY WHO DEFENDED MY COMPANY AGAINST A FRIVOLOUS AND MERITLESS CLAIMS, I RECOGNIZED A MANUFACTURED SMEAR CAMPAIGN INTENDED THE SAME AND HARASS WHITE ROCK GROWING AND ITS PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE BEEN PROMOTED BY WHITE ROCK LAKE ACCOUNTABILITY.COM AND FACILITATED BY MEDIA, UH, OFFICE THAT FAILED TO INVESTIGATE CAMPAIGN THROUGH, PLEASE READ THE REPORT PUBLISHED BY WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE INC. IN PARTICULAR PAY ATTENTION TO PAGES 23 THROUGH 52 THAT DEMONSTRATE THIS CAMPAIGN AIMS TO UPEND THE WHITE ROCK GROWING PROGRAM AND TO THE DETRIMENT OF OUR YOUNG GROWERS. WE CURRENTLY ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF THOSE LESSONS I MENTIONED AND THE DETRIMENT OF MASTERS LIKE ME. THE BOARD SHOULD RECOGNIZE THIS SMEAR AND DISMISS IT AS A AL TASK. THANK YOU. THANK ALL THE SPEAKER A GOOD PERSPECTIVE. SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE TWO. WITH THAT, WE MOVED TO NEXT POINT OF BUSINESS, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR JUNE 18TH AND ALL. AYE, AYE, EVERYONE YOU CAN EXIT, GOES RIGHT UP. I DO . I WAS LIKE, I CAN DO IT. HEY EVERYONE. CAN YOU, UH, EVERYBODY WE'RE STILL MEETING. CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE CONVERSATIONS OUTSIDE? YES. BEFORE I MOVE TO OUR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, I THINK, UH, ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT SHE MIGHT KNOW, BOARD MEMBER . SHE WENT THROUGH A PERSONAL INCIDENT LAST WEEK WHERE HER HUSBAND WAS SHOT AND HE WAS IN ICU WITH A HEART ATTACK AND CARDIAC ARREST. AND HE IS RECOVERING, BUT I AND HER COMMITMENT, SHE STILL IS ATTENDING BOARD MEETING. I, YEAH, LOVE TO KEEP HER. PLEASE KEEP HER AND HER FAMILY AND YOUR PRAYERS. SHE'S BEING STRONG AND, UH, FIRM BELIEVER, AND I KNOW WITH HER BELIEF AND THE STRENGTH, UH, HER FAMILY WILL THAT NIA BE STRONG. AND THIS BOARD IS, UH, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. UH, TRINITY FOR HIS SPINE. DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, MR DO I HAVE A SECOND? I NEED A SECOND. I NEED A SECOND. MR. MCGAHN. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, WITH THAT, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. A AYE. YOU PROGRAM STANDARDS OF CARE, UH, MR. MCGAHN. DO HAVE A SECOND MR. GOOD. ANY DISCUSSION? FIRST SAY AYE. OKAY. WE WILL DO THREE THINGS. UH, COST RECOVERY FRAMEWORK, MR. I O'CONNOR. MAKE MORE A LOT OF MONEY. [01:15:08] UH, YES SIR. GOOD MORNING, MR. PRESIDENT AND . SEE TODAY. UM, SO WE HAVE A, A COUPLE PRESENTATIONS TODAY, UH, AROUND, UH, REVENUES AND EXPENSES. OF COURSE, IT'S BUDGET SEASON. SO, UH, THE FIRST PRESENTATION RELATED TO COST RECOVERY. AS Y'ALL KNOW, WE ARE, UH, FAIRLY UNDERWAY WITH A NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING EFFORT. AND Y'ALL ALSO KNOW THAT, UH, HARD LOOK AT THE COST RECOVERY WILL BE AN ELEMENT OF THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN A VERY, VERY DETAILED WAY. HOWEVER, UM, THAT NEW PLAN WILL PROBABLY NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THE END OF THE YEAR OR THE FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR. AND SO, UM, WE NEEDED TO COME BEFORE YOU, UH, TODAY TO START THE CONVERSATION AROUND, UH, COST RECOVERY, UH, THAT WAS INCLUDED AS AN ELEMENT OF THE 2016 PLAN. SO WE, WE TALKED WITH YOU IN THE PAST ABOUT COST RECOVERY OF AQUATICS AND GOLF, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BROADER CONVERSATION WITH YOU AROUND COST RECOVERY BECAUSE, UM, THERE ARE SOME BUDGET IMPLICATIONS, UH, THIS YEAR. SO WITH THAT INTRODUCTION, UH, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO PATRICK FENNELL, Y'ALL, AND PATRICK, HE'S OUR BUDGET MANAGER, AND WE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER A QUESTION AT THE CONCLUSION. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. MR. PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE PARK BOARD. ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS PASTOR FENNELL AND I'M THE CURRENT BUDGET ADMINISTRATOR FOR, UH, THE DEPARTMENT. AND I'D LIKE, UH, SENIOR DEPUTY DIRECTOR RON WAS SAYING TODAY. TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT'S COST RECOVERY FRAMEWORK AND STRATEGY. THIS PRESENTATION IS INTENDED TO RESTART A CONVERSATION THAT BEGAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND TO SEE YOUR INPUT ON HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD TODAY. WE'RE NOT REQUESTING APPROVAL OF NEW FEES OR FEE INCREASES. INSTEAD, WE ARE ASKING YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE INTERIM FRAMEWORK THAT WILL HELP GUIDE FUTURE ANALYSIS AND POLICY DISCUSSIONS REGARDING COST RECOVERY IN TODAY'S PURPOSE, THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S BRIEFING IS THREEFOLD. FIRST, WE WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THE DEPARTMENT'S EXISTING COST RECOVERY PHILOSOPHY. MANY OF THESE CONCEPTS ORIGINATED WITH THE 2016 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WHILE PORTIONS OF THAT PLAN WERE NEVER IMPLEMENTED, MANY OF THEIR RECOMMENDED COST RECOVERY TARGETS WERE NEVER FULLY ADOPTED. SECONDLY, WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE CLASSIFICATIONS OF OUR VARIOUS PROGRAM TYPES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT'S COST RECOVERY CATEGORIES. RATHER THAN DISCUSSING INDIVIDUAL FEES TODAY, WE WANT TO FIRST ESTABLISH A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF WHICH PROGRAMS BELONG IN EACH CATEGORY. FINALLY, WE WOULD LIKE YOUR GUIDANCE REGARDING ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS WORK. SHOULD THESE DISCUSSIONS OCCUR THROUGH ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE, OR WILL THE BOARD PREFER ESTABLISHING AN AD HOC COST RECOVERY COMMITTEE? AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT IS IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS AN INTERIM FRAMEWORK. STAFF WILL CONTINUE REFINING THE ANALYSIS AND THIS WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL OUR CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS APPROVED AND ADOPTED BY . WHY NOW, COMMON QUESTION THAT WE, UH, GET. WHY ARE WE REVISITING COST RECOVERY NOW? AND THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY REASONS WHY WE'RE RE REVISITING THIS NOW. FIRST, THE COST OF PROVIDING PARK AND RECREATION SERVICES CONTINUE TO INCREASE INFLATION. LABOR COSTS, UTILITIES MAINTENANCE, SECURITY EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT HAVE ALL SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. THOSE INCREASES CREATE ADDITIONAL PRESSURES ON THE GENERAL FUND. SECONDLY, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. UH, DURING THIS YEAR'S BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, THE DEPARTMENT COMMITTED SIGNIFICANT REOCCURRING REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS IN LIEU OF ADDITIONAL SERVICE REDUCTIONS. SO COST RECOVERY HAS BECOME ONE OF THE PRIMARY STRATEGIES FOR MAINTAINING SERVICE LEVEL SERVICE LEVELS WHILE GENERATING SUSTAINABLE REVENUE. AND THIS DISCUSSION BUILDS UPON THAT COMMITTEE. THIRDLY, WE ALREADY HAVE POLICY DIRECTION. THE BOARD ADOPTED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN 2016, AND WHILE THE IMPLEMENTATION SLOWED BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY AND CHANGE IN PRIORITIES, THE FRAMEWORK REMAINS A VALUABLE STARTING POINT AND TAKEN TOGETHER THESE FACTORS CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT OUR CURRENT, OUR COST RECOVERY PHILOSOPHY AND ESTABLISH UPDATE UPDATED GOALS FOR THE FUTURE 2016 COST RECOVERY FRAMEWORK. SO BEFORE DISCUSSING INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS, I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY REVIEW THE FRAMEWORK ESTABLISHED IN THE 2016 COMP PLAN. THE FRAMEWORK RECOGNIZES NOT EVERY SERVICE SHOULD RECOVER THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF ITS COST. [01:20:01] INSTEAD, SERVICES ARE CATEGORIZED ACCORDING TO WHO PRIMARILY BENEFITS. ESSENTIAL PROGRAMS PRIMARILY PROVIDE COMMUNITY BENEFIT BECAUSE THESE RECEIVES THE GREATEST BENEFIT. THESE SERVICES ARE GENERALLY SUPPORTED THROUGH TAX DOLLARS, THE RECOMMENDED COST RECOVERY RANGE, AND ZERO IN . IMPORTANT PROGRAMS PROVIDE BOTH COMMUNITY AND INDIVIDUAL BENEFIT. IN THESE CASES, THE COST OF SHARE BETWEEN TAXPAYERS AND THE PROGRAM PARTICIPANT, THE RECOMMENDED RECOVERY RANGE IS 20 TO 80%. OUR VALUE ADDED SERVICES PRIMARILY BENEFIT THE INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPANT. THESE SERVICES CAN GENERALLY SUPPORT HIGHER LEVELS OF COST RECOVERY BECAUSE PARTICIPATION IS OPTIONAL AND THE DIRECT BENEFIT IS RECEIVED BY THE USER. THE RECOMMENDED RANGE IS 80 TO OVER 100%. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE FRAMEWORK IS ABOUT FAIRNESS. PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE BROAD PUBLIC BENEFIT RECEIVED GREATER PUBLIC SUBSIDY PROGRAMS PROVIDING PRIMARILY INDIVIDUAL BENEFIT, RECOVERING MORE OF THEIR OPERATING COSTS THROUGH USER FEES. PROGRAMS PROPOSED FOR ESSENTIAL CLASSIFICATION. NOW, STAFF RECOMMENDS THESE PROGRAMS SHOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS ESSENTIAL JUST TO NAME A FEW. OUR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS, SENIOR PROGRAMS, SUMMER CAMP, OUR THERAPEUTIC RECREATION. WHILE THESE, UH, SERVICES CREATE BROAD COMMUNITY BENEFIT THAT EXTEND WELL BEYOND THE INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPANT, THEY IMPROVE HEALTH, SAFETY, YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, INCLUSION, AND THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE. BECAUSE OF THESE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, WE BELIEVE THESE PROGRAMS SHOULD CONTINUE RECEIVING SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INVESTMENT WHILE PARTICIPATION FEES MAY EXIST. MAXIMIZING REVENUE IS NOT THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE. THE PRIORITY IS ENSURING ACCESSIBILITY AND AFFORDABILITY. THE NEXT CATEGORY IS IMPORTANT. THESE PROGRAMS PROVIDE BOTH COMMUNITY BENEFIT AND INDIVIDUAL BENEFIT. STAFF RECOMMENDS AN INTERIM COSTAL RECOVERY TARGET BETWEEN 30 AND 50%, DEPENDING UPON THE SPECIFIC PROGRAM TYPE. JUST TO NAME A FEW. OUR SPECIALIZED PROGRAM CONTRACT FEE CLASSES, OUR YOUTH SPORTS OUTDOOR RECREATION. THESE PROGRAMS CREATE COMMUNITY VALUE BY ENCOURAGING HEALTHY LIFESTYLES AND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. AT THE SAME TIME, PARTICIPANTS RECEIVE DIRECT PERSONAL BENEFIT. THEREFORE, IT IS APPROPRIATE THAT COSTS TO BE SHARED BETWEEN TAXPAYERS AND USERS. AND THE GOAL HERE IS BALANCE. WE WANT PROGRAMS TO REMAIN AFFORDABLE WHILE RECOGNIZING THAT PARTICIPANTS SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE COST OF THE SERVICE THEY RECEIVE. AND FINALLY, WE HAVE OUR VALUE ADDED PROGRAMS. THESE PROGRAMS PRIMARILY BENEFIT THE USERS AND OUR GENERALLY OPTIONAL RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. SOME OF THE EXAMPLES INCLUDE OUR RENTABLE FACILITIES, OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS, AND TOURNAMENT RENTALS. SPECIAL EVENTS. BECAUSE THESE SERVICES PRIMARILY BENEFIT INDIVIDUAL PARTICIPANTS, STAFF BELIEVE THEY SHOULD SUPPORT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF COST RECOVERY. IN MANY CASES, THESE PROGRAMS SHOULD RECOVER MOST OR ALL OF THEIR OPERATING COSTS. AND I WOULD SAY AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION FOR IMMEDIATE FEE INCREASES. IT SIMPLY ESTABLISHES THE PHILOSOPHY THAT WILL GUIDE FUTURE ANALYSIS. AND THAT BRINGS US TO, UH, TODAY'S REQUEST. FIRST, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR THOUGHTS REGARDING THE PROPOSED PROGRAM CLASSIFICATIONS AND THE OVERALL FRAMEWORK. ARE THE PROGRAMS APPROPRIATELY CATEGORIZED? ARE THERE PROGRAMS THE BOARD BELIEVES SHOULD BE MOVED TO ANOTHER CATEGORY? SECONDLY, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR DIRECTION REGARDING HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THESE CONVERSATIONS TO CONTINUE. WOULD YOU PREFER THESE DISCUSSIONS OCCURRED THROUGH AN ADMIN COMMITTEE OR WOULD YOU PREFER ESTABLISHING AN AD HOC COST RECOVERY COMMITTEE DEDICATED TO THIS WORK? AND ONCE WE RECEIVE THE DIRECTION, STAFF WILL RETURN WITH THE ADDITIONAL PROGRAM LEVEL ANALYSIS. THE FUTURE WORK WILL CONTIN WILL INCLUDE MORE DETAILED FINANCIAL INFORMATION, BENCHMARKING MARKET RATES, PARTICIPATION TRAINING. AND IT IS OUR HOPES THAT A PHASED APPROACH WILL ALLOW THE BOARD TO ESTABLISH POLICY DIRECTION BEFORE CONSIDERING INDIVIDUAL PROGRAM RECOMMENDATIONS. AND IN CLOSING, UH, MR. PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, COST RECOVERY IS ULTIMATELY ABOUT ENSURING THE LONG TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR PARTS AND RECREATION SYSTEM WHILE PRESERVING EQUITABLE ACCESS TO PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS INTENDED TO ESTABLISH A SHARED FRAMEWORK THAT WILL HELP GUIDE FUTURE DECISIONS NOT TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS TODAY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR GUIDANCE AND LOOK FORWARD TO ANY, UH, TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY AND WITH THE BOARD CONTINUING [01:25:01] THIS EFFORT. AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE MR. CHAIR. I WANTED UH, THREE QUICK THINGS HERE. UH, NUMBER ONE IS, UH, MR. CHAIR AND THE BOARD. UH, I KNOWS A LOT OF INFORMATION, UH, THAT'S WHY WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THIS CAN BE WORKED THROUGH A COMMITTEE. IT CAN BE WORKED THROUGH AD HOC COMMITTEE, OR IT CAN BE WORKED THROUGH THE BOARD THROUGH SOME WORKSHOPS FOR THE BOARD. UH, TWO, WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE SECTION THAT DEALS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE 2016 AND THREE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC AND YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THE PARTS, IT WAS ADOPTED BY THE BOARD, THE 2016 PLAN, BUT THERE WERE SECTIONS DEALING WITH THE COST RECOVERY THAT THE BOARD, SEVERAL BOARDS AND SEVERAL COUNCILS WHERE WHEN IT CAME TO SETTING SOME OF THOSE RATES, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A DOWN ECONOMY AT THE TIME. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AFFORDABILITY ISSUES AT THE TIME, WHY THEY DIDN'T ADOPT THE FULL COST RECOVERY. AND SO AT THIS POINT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE REVISIT THAT AND SEE WHERE THE BOARD WOULD LIKE US SET THOSE INTERIM COST RECOVERY GOALS UNTIL THE COMP PLAN, THE NEW COMP PLAN IS COMPLETED. BRIAN, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD? UH, YES. I WAS JUST GONNA, I WAS JUST GONNA QUICKLY ADD, UM, SO THERE'S THREE BUCKETS ESSENTIALLY, THAT, THAT OUR FEES AND SERVICES ARE ORGANIZED WITH THEM. AND THE TWO BUCKETS, THE IMPORTANT AND THE VALUE ADDED CAN BE SOMEWHAT OBVIOUS. YOU KNOW, THE VALUE ADDED IS, IS REALLY KIND OF THE MORE EXCLUSIVE TYPE THINGS AFTER HOURS, RENTALS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AT THE IMPORTANT ARE REALLY OUR CORE PROGRAM. SO, SO THE BUCKET THAT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS WOULD BE THE BOARD'S DESIRE TO REALLY FOCUS ON IS, IS THAT MIDDLE BUCKET AND WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE RIGHT, UM, RANGE OF COST RECOVERY WITHIN THAT BUCKET. SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF, AS Y'ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT GOING FORWARD, UM, PERHAPS GETTING THAT CONSIDERATION. THANKS MR. CON. THANKS PATRICK. UH, MR. KARIMI. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. UH, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAD THE ESSENTIALS ON IT? I JUST WANNA TAKE A, A LOOK AT THAT ON SLIDE FIVE. SLIDE FIVE. I REALLY LIKE THAT SLIDE. FIRST OF ALL. I JUST WANNA TAKE ONE CLOSER LOOK AT IT. THIS IS A GREAT LIST. WHAT WAS THE LOGIC USED TO IDENTIFY THESE OUT OF ALL THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT WE HAVE? WHAT WAS THE, THE LOGIC USED TO IDENTIFY THESE SIX? SO YEAH, SO YOU ESE SITTING HERE, A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE ME USE THE TERM CORE PROGRAMS. MM-HMM . THOSE ARE PROGRAMS THAT THROUGH ANY BUDGET PROCESS, YOU ALL, YOU ALWAYS HEAR ME SAY, WE NEED TO PROTECT THESE PARTICULAR PROGRAMS. THESE PROGRAMS SERVE THE MASSES AFTER AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMMING. WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERY CHILD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM. SO WE, WE DON'T WANT TO SET THOSE FEES EITHER FREE OR VERY NOMINAL TO MAKE SURE ALL KIDS CAN PARTICIPATE. UH, OF COURSE OUR SENIOR PROGRAMMER, YOU KNOW, MY PHILOSOPHER'S ALWAYS BEEN, WE ALWAYS GOTTA PROTECT OUR YOUNG, WE GOTTA PRE PROTECT, UH, OUR, OUR OUR OUR MORE AGING SENIOR POPULATION. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, THE MIDDLE IS GONNA COME TOGETHER. AND THEN SUMMER CAMP, THAT'S A BASIC SERVICE THAT I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD ABLE TO PROVIDE. IN OUR CASE, WE PROVIDE A VARIETY OF SUMMER CAMPS. WE HAVE FREE, AND THEN WE HAVE FEE. SO WE MAKE SURE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE. OF COURSE, TEAM PROGRAM, YOU GOTTA TAKE CARE OF OUR TEENAGERS, UH, SWIMMING LESSONS, THAT'S A BASIC, ALL ALL KIDS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AFFORDABLE SWIMMING LESSONS. AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR THERAPEUTIC RECREATION. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL SEGMENTS OF OUR POPULATION THAT, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER CHALLENGES WE ARE PROVIDING THOSE TYPE OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO BE PARTICIPATE IN THE MAINSTREAM OF SOCIETY. IT IS A WONDERFUL LIST. UH, DON'T GET ME WRONG. MY, MY QUESTION IS, UH, THE, THE WONDERFUL PROGRAMMING WE DO, LOW COST, NO COST, UH, REC SERVICES FOR KIDS. WHAT, DOES THAT FALL INTO ONE OF THESE BUCKETS? OR IS THAT, IS THAT OUTSIDE OF ONE OF THESE SIX? YEAH, IT KIND OF FOUND LIKE AFTER SCHOOL, YOU AND I, THAT SCHOOL PROGRAM BE PARTICIPATING IN OUR SPORTS PROGRAM, YOU'RE GONNA PARTICIPATE IN TUTORING OUR RECREATIONAL TYPE PROGRAM. OKAY. YES. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THERE. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU MR. ROBERTO. MAYBE I WANNA MAKE SURE. YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU CAN HEAR ME ANYWAY, WHETHER IT'S MIC ON. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, APPRECIATE IT. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THIS LIST IS ACTUALLY PRETTY, I SAW LAST, I, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH IT LAST NIGHT AND I WAS LIKE, IT'S PRETTY GOOD. IT'S PRETTY, IT'S, IT IS THERE, RIGHT? [01:30:01] MAYBE A COUPLE DAYS CAN MOVE IN THERE, BUT OVERALL IT'S, IT'S GREAT. MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WE LOOK AT, WHEN WE LOOK AT CENTRAL, IT'S TO 20% AND THEN YOU LOOK AT IMPORTANT, WHICH IS 20 TO 80, THAT'S A BIG GAP. THAT'S A 60% GAP. AND, AND, AND, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, IT'S 80 TO A HUNDRED. THAT'S AWESOME. WE CAN GET TO 80 TO A HUNDRED IN THOSE GROUPS, RIGHT? I'M, I'M, I'M ALL OF, BUT THE MIDDLE ONE GIVING YOU SUCH A BIG RANGE. DO WE KNOW THE NUMBER FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION OR EVEN IF WE GO TO SUMMER CAMP DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM, WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE, THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE GROUP THAT COMES HERE OVERALL GIVES US THE OVERALL, UM, NUMBERS FOR THEIR, FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF AQUATICS IS FOR NOW, FOR TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS, GIVEN US IT COSTS 7 MILLION, WE MAKE 2 MILLION, RIGHT? DO WE KNOW THAT NUMBER IF WE ARE RECOVERING 20? DO WE HAVE THAT ACTUAL NUMBER? AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE IF I, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, 61% IS SALARIES IS HARD SALARIES OF OUR, OUR BUDGET. IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. 61 IS 61. IT'S IN THAT RANGE, RIGHT? IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THERE. SO 60% OF OUR BUDGET IS SALARIES, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE BIGGEST COST FOR ANY BUSINESS TO HAVE. SO IF, IF WE HAVE, LET'S JUST SAY SUMMER CAMP OR LET'S, LET'S GO TO SUMMER CAMP, WE NORMALLY HIRE THREE, UH, SUMMER, SUMMER EMPLOYEES TO RUN OUR SUMMER CAMP. IF I'M CORRECT, THAT CAN BE WRONG, BUT, AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE CHARGING 20, WE'RE PAYING $21, $22 PER PERSON, AND THEN WE ADD THE COST OF THE CENTER AND THE MANAGER AND THE CLEANING AND ALL THAT. ARE WE RECOVERING 20? UH, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S, I JUST, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE AT, OR AND, AND I DON'T NEED THE NUMBERS TODAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE NUMBERS PHYSICALLY TO US SO WE CAN KIND OF LIKE, WE ARE RECOVERING. 20, 20% IS A GREAT NUMBER FOR SUMMER CAMP. I, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA LIE, I LOVE THAT BECAUSE AT LEAST WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING BACK. BUT CAN WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCURATE? BUT THE ONE GAP IS AT 20 TO 60. CAN WE CLOSE THAT UP SOMEWHERE AND SAY, AND THESE PROGRAMS , LET'S JUST SAY WE, WE LOOK AT THOSE AND WE SAY OUR, OUR, OUR QUALITY'S ONLY GONNA RECOVER 20%, BUT BUSINESS IS GONNA GET 80%, RIGHT? SO HOW, HOW ARE WE DETERMINING WHAT GETS 20 TO 80%, WHICH IS A BIG NUMBER. YEAH. UH, AND I'LL LET RYAN ANSWER, BUT WE DO, I DO HAVE THE OTHER EXPERTS BACK THERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. LAKEISHA, R STEIN, SNYDER, UH, I KNOW RA CAME FROM AQUAS AS WELL. ANY SPECIFICS, LIKE THEIR PARTICULAR PROGRAM, THEY'RE BEING ANSWERED. BUT WE ARE GOING TO TALK MORE IN GENERAL TODAY FROM A POLICY LEVEL. AND SO I WOULD SAY REASON WHY WE WANNA HAVE THIS RANGE, AND IF YOU SEE IN THE SMALL PRINT THERE, STAFF IS RECOMMEND THIS RANGE IS SOMETHING MORE AROUND 30 50%, UH, FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR CLASSIFICATION. AND THEN IT JUST ALLOWS US TO KIND OF SET PRICING AND THE COST RECOVERY. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF THE MIDDLE THING WHERE WE DON'T WANNA OUT PRICE EVERYONE, BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF COST RECOVERY FOR THESE TYPE OF PROGRAMS. AND, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND, AND I AGREE I DID SEE THAT 30 TO 50% YOU SAID SUCH, I READING LAST NIGHT, I THOUGHT THIS IS AWESOME. I I THOUGHT THE NUMBERS SHOULD BE LIKE 48%. I'LL JUST BE HONEST. THAT'S JUST WHAT I, MY NUMBER IS, I THINK I SAID THAT A COUPLE TIMES. YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD AT LEAST GET TO 48% ON SOME OF THESE SERVICES THAT ARE NOT CORE. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE ESSENTIAL LIST, MY FELLOW PARK DEPARTMENT, THOSE ARE ALL INSIDE OUR REC CENTERS. MAJORITY OF 'EM NOW FEELS OUR REC CENTERS. AND IT ALSO FILLS OUR STAFF. OUR STAFF HAS SOMETHING TO DO BECAUSE WE, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS OTHER SHEET THAT WAS HANDED TO US TODAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOT FILLING, UM, 17 VACANT POSITIONS, RIGHT? AND THAT COULD BE SOME IN THE REC CENTERS. SO NOW WE LOSE REC CENTER, FRONT CENTER STAFF, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE CALL 'EM. THOSE ARE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF OUR CUSTOMERS AT, AT THE REC CENTER. OUR, OUR PUBLIC, SORRY, CUSTOMER WORD, BUT OUR, OUR PUBLIC IS REC CENTERS. AND ALSO OUR MAINES, OUR RECS ARE WHAT THE PUBLIC SEES WHEN THEY GO TO OUR, OUR FACILITIES. SO THAT'D BE THE ONE I DON'T WANT CUT. I'VE SAID THAT BEFORE. MAINES IS A BIG THING. THIS, THIS KIND OF HELPS BUILD THAT REC CENTER, PEOPLE COMING IN, SPENDING MONEY AND WE CAN KEEP THE PROGRAM WARNING. SO THAT'S, I THINK THIS IS A SPOT ON. I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN GENERAL AND DEFINITELY LIKE TO GET INTO AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW IF ADMINISTRATION MEANS WE HAVE TO PUT THAT INTO THE PARK BOARD BOARD OR NOT. AD HOC COULD BE DONE BY JUST THE CHAIR SETTING UP AN AD HOC. YEAH, AD HOC IS EASY TO SET UP. THE OTHER ONE IS PROBABLY NOT. SO WE GO MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET INTO THE NUMBERS AND FIGURE OUT THIS AND TRY TO MAKE US SUSTAINABLE FOR THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR PLAN, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS BEING DEVELOPED NOW, IS PUTTING, HOW CAN WE STAY, BE OUR OWN DEPARTMENT AWAY FROM THE CITY IF THAT EVER HAPPENS. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU MR. THOMAS. THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS. JUST WANTED TO ASK, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE ON WITH THE NEXT STEPS? IS THAT A VOTE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE? [01:35:01] WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND GIVE THEM A DIRECTION. MR. JOHN? YES. I'M, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT GOES INTO ENTERTAINMENT, THE COST OF A PARTICULAR PROGRAM. IS IT JUST STRICTLY MARGINAL COST? IF WE SHUT THIS PROGRAM DOWN, HOW MUCH WILL WE SAVE? OR IS IT BROADER THAN THAT? I I CAN THINK OF AN EXTREME BEING. GOLF. GOLF YOU COULD SAY TAKE THE TOTAL COST OF THIS GOLF COURSE AND DIVIDE BY THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS. AND, UH, SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT COST RECOVERY, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT INDIRECT COSTS, BUT ALSO INDIRECT COSTS. SO WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH A KIND OF A STANDARD FOR INDIRECT COSTS, UM, AND APPLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM IS HOW WE WOULD NEED TO ARRIVE ON THAT. OKAY, SO INDETERMINANT PRESENT. YES. UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT ANECDOTALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MIDDLE CATEGORY THAT AGAIN, I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY SPEND MOST OF OUR TIME ON BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A BIG RANGE. UH, I WOULD GUESS THAT WE'RE ON THE LOWER END OF THAT SPECTRUM AT THIS POINT. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY, UM, LOOKING FOR THE BOARD'S GUIDANCE ON, YOU KNOW, IS 30%, IS 40%, IS 50%, OR SOME OTHER PERCENTAGE MAKE MORE SENSE FOR THAT IZATION. AND WHAT WE WOULD DO, YOU KNOW, AS EXPERTS, AS PROFESSIONALS, WE WILL, WE WILL MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATION IF Y'ALL SAY, HEY, YOU WANNA SET UP THE AD HOC COMMITTEE? WE'LL COME WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, KIND OF GIVE YOU MORE DEFINED DEFINITIONS. AND SOME OF THESE THINGS LIKE YOU ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTION. LIKE, OKAY, LET'S TYPE, LET'S TAKE SPECIALIZED PROGRAM CONTRACT FEE. WELL, WE THINK YOU SHOULD PAY A LITTLE MORE FOR THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE LIKE INDIVIDUAL PROGRAMS YOU CAN CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN. AND SO WE HAVE TO BRING IN A CONTRACT FEE INSTRUCTOR SO THEY HAVE THEIR COSTS AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY SO THEY'LL KEEP COMING BACK TO THE REC CENTER. SO WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE TYPE OF VARIETY OF PROGRAMMING BECAUSE WE AS STAFF, WE CAN DO SOME STAFF TALK, BUT THERE ARE SOME SPECIALTIES OUT THERE FOR SMALL BUSINESS FOLKS TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN OUR REC CENTERS AND PROVIDE A UNIQUE SERVICE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN BY MAKING SURE WE SET THE, THE RECOVERY RATE SO WE CAN COVER AND MAKE SURE WE CAN ATTRACT THE RIGHT TYPE OF STAFF, THE CONTRACT FEE, WE CAN RECOVER A LITTLE BIT OF OUR COSTS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT HAND, RIGHT? ONE OF THE THINGS I TELL PEOPLE, WE DO HAVE A FIXED COST ON UTILITIES AROUND HERE. UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR BUDGET, UH, REMEMBER OUT OF THAT 118 MILLION, 122 MILLION BUDGET, 'CAUSE IT KEEPS SHRINKING, UH, THAT AS, AS MR. CONNOR DEMONSTRATED, THERE'S ONLY LIKE 83 OR $85 MILLION THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK WITH OUT OF THE 1 22. 'CAUSE THE REST IS FIXED COST, UTILITIES, PENSION, INSURANCE, MERITS, HEALTHCARE. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO WORK WITH. IT'S 85, 83 85. SO WE GOTTA START GETTING SOME COST RECOVERY TO HELP US BE ABLE TO EXPAND OUR PROGRAMING THIS WAY. MR. PINERS, THANK YOU. NOW THE COLOR OF YOUR SHIRT. THANK YOU . AS AN EXPERT, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE KIND OF OUT IN THE DARK HERE NOT KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT THE, UH, PARTICIPATION IN EACH BUCKET ON THE ESSENTIALS PAGE AND WHAT, HOW MANY PEOPLE, UH, SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN IT AND WHAT'S THE COST OF EACH BUCKET? WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PERCENTAGE, UH, RECOVERY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S REALLY MEANS. SO THE QUESTION ALSO THEN COMES BACK TO, UH, MICHAEL'S QUESTION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT ARE ONGOING COSTS AND WHAT ARE COSTS THAT ARE PROPORTIONAL TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION MR. PINK. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO LET'S JUST SAY WHY WE SAY WE NEED TO BE CHARGING MORE FOR YOUTH SPORTS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE ATHLETIC FIELDS WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN FOR THOSE TYPE OF SPORTS. WE KNOW OUR COST RECOVERY RATE OR AS ON OUR RENTAL AS WELL AS OUR MAINTENANCE ON THOSE FIELDS. WE KNOW WE ARE IN SOMEWHERE IN THE COST RECOVERY RATE OF SOMETHING LIKE 15 TO 20%. OKAY? BUT OUR FIELDS, WE SPEND A WHOLE LOT MORE ON MAINTAINING THOSE FIELDS. AND DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE SAY YOUTH SPORTS, REMEMBER WHEN WE SAY AFTER SCHOOL KIND OF PROGRAMS THAT'S PUT ON BY STAFF, MOST OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE PRETTY MUCH FREE OR VERY NOMINAL. YOU MAY GET KIDS PAYING MAYBE 50 OR $80 JUST TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR SPORTS PROGRAM. BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER, WE HAVE SELECT GROUPS. [01:40:01] WE HAVE ALL THESE OTHER GROUPS WHO UTILIZE OUR ATHLETIC FIELDS AND WE NEED TO GET THOSE RATES SET A LITTLE BIT MORE HIGHER BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR KEY GONNA COME IN AT A DISCOUNT REGARDLESS IF YOU COME THROUGH OUR PROGRAM. YEAH, WE MIGHT ALSO LOOK AT, AT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S DONE ANYWHERE, WHERE THERE'S LIKE A PROMOTIONAL OR AN INTRODUCTORY THAT IS EITHER FREE OR VERY SMALL COST. AND ONCE THEY'VE BEEN DOING SOMETHING AND THEY DECIDE THEY LIKE IT, THEN THERE'S A GREATER COST. 'CAUSE I DUNNO, LIKE TENNIS, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF UPFRONT COSTS, WHETHER IT YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR OWN RACKET AND ALL THAT. AND IF, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM, WHICH WE MIGHT THEREFORE THEN THEN HELP THE PROGRAMS. I LOVE MR. MCGANN. OKAY, THANKS. SORRY, YOU FINISHED. SORRY. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO AGAIN, TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR ESSENTIAL PROGRAMS TO, TO SAY AND TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THESE ESSENTIAL PROGRAMS, THOUGH THEY MAY BE COST CENTERS FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE INVESTMENTS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS THAT WE MAKE ON BEHALF OF EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY. THEIR INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC SAFETY, THEIR INVESTMENTS IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THAT WAS A VERY CLEAR UNDERLYING MESSAGE FROM ALL THE KIDS HERE TODAY. AND THE PARENTS THAT PROGRAMS OF THE TYPE OF THE PARK DEPARTMENT PUT ON, NO MATTER WHERE THAT TAKES PLACE, CHANGES THE LIVES OF KIDS FOR THE BETTER. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 0% OR 20%, OR ALL THESE BUCKETS THAT WE'RE INDIVIDUALLY CONSIDERING HERE TO MOVE MONEY AROUND AND TO SAVE MONEY, UM, AND TO, TO, TO LESSEN THE BURDEN OF, OF COSTS THAT WE HAVE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. AND IT'S, AND THE GREATER PROBLEMS, I, I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, THAT AS THIS CONVERSATION MOVES FORWARD INTO LARGER BODIES WOULD HAVE A, THAT HAVE A LARGER PURVIEW IN TERMS OF HOW MONEY ON AGGREGATE IS SPENT ACROSS THE CITY. THAT, THAT IS REMEMBERED THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS INVESTING IN PUBLIC SAFETY HERE. AND AGAIN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER THINGS FOR THE CITY. SO IF ANYONE FROM CITY COUNCIL IS LISTENING OR THAT HAS THE POWER TO BRING THIS CONVERSATION TO FORWARD TO A, TO A PLACE THAT HAS A LARGER VIEW, UM, WHILE WE'RE OVER HERE LOOKING AT THESE INDIVIDUAL THINGS, I THINK THAT THERE, IT REALLY JUST NEEDS TO BE SEEN AT A LARGER LEVEL. UM, AND THERE ARE WAYS THAT THOSE PROGRAMS COULD AND SHOULD BE SUPPORTED BY OTHER COM DEPARTMENTS. I'VE MADE THAT CLEAR MANY TIMES. I'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. OKAY, MR. . THANK YOU. I, AS WE LOOK AT COST RECOVERY, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT NOT EVERYBODY NEEDS THE AFFORDABILITY, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYBODY. UM, SO I THINK WE CAN SET THE THRESHOLD A LITTLE HIGHER, UM, AS A STANDARD, BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE FAMILIES WHEN THERE'S NEED. UM, OUR REC CENTERS ARE PHENOMENAL AT IDENTIFYING THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN NEED, UM, VERY DISCREETLY, VERY EFFICIENTLY. UM, JUST LIKE TEACHERS DO IT EVERY DAY IN SCHOOLS. UM, THOSE FAMILIES CAN BE IDENTIFIED AND HELPED, UM, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF KNOWLEDGE IN THE MOST PART. UM, WHETHER THEY'RE FREE OR LOW INCOME OR HOWEVER THEY'RE IDENTIFIED, UM, AS IN NEED. UM, BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ACTUALLY MAKE ENOUGH REVENUE TO HELP OFFSET THE COST. UM, SO WHILE WE MIGHT RAISE THE PRICES AS WE DO IT, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UM, ASSIST WHEN NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT NO FAMILY OR NO CHILD IS GONE WITHOUT. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT POINT. SCHOLARSHIPS ARE A, A REALLY CRITICAL PART OF WHAT WE DO. WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF TURNING FOLKS AWAY, , SO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO. THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ULTIMATE IS WE'RE HERE FOR THE PEOPLE, BUT NOT EVERYBODY OR PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT AND PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, HELP. SO I THINK THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. SOME OF 'EM WE MIGHT CHARGE ONLY $80 A WEEK WHEN SOME FAMILIES COULD PAY $400 A WEEK WITH THE SAME OR LACK OF STRUGGLE THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT BE TO PAY $20 A WEEK. UM, AND THEY WOULD DO IT LASTLY TO BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE. SO I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT IN A LOT OF THINGS. UM, BUT WE LACK AND THE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE PRODUCTS AT A CERTAIN LEVEL. SO LET'S RAISE THOSE RATES TO A POINT WHEN, YOU KNOW, NOT TO OUTPRICE EVERYBODY, BUT TO ACTUALLY, [01:45:01] YOU KNOW, MAKE IT RIGHT PRICED AND THEN OFFER THE SCHOLARSHIP STUFF. THANK YOU MR. . DISMISS. UH, UH, YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN. UM, AND, AND I, I'LL PIGGYBACK ON WHAT JOHN SAID ABOUT RECOVERY COSTS, EVEN ON ATHLETIC FIELDS AND, AND ALL THAT STUFF AND, AND WHAT MR. WOOD WAS TALKING ABOUT SCHOLARSHIPS AND, AND WE JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT THE SCHOLARSHIP PART. UM, LA LA AND I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE GROUP THAT I FOUNDED LAST YEAR. WE HAD 458 SCHOLARSHIPS THAT WE GAVE OUT. YOU KNOW THAT NUMBER BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT IT WHEN WE GO OUT TO TALK TO POTENTIAL DONORS FOR THOSE, RIGHT? CAN WE GO FIND DONORS TO SUPPLEMENT THAT FREE SERVICE THAT WE GAVE OUT? SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT THIS DEPARTMENT COULD ALSO GO DO, IS FIND A SPECIFIC DONOR. WE WANT THIS MONEY FOR OUR SUMMER CAMPS AND SPECIFICALLY SPENDING IT ON SUMMER CAMPS OR, OR IF IT'S YOUTH SPORT OR IF IT'S, IF IT'S SENIORS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT, WE GOT WELL MADE THAT DOES SENIORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THIS, THE, THIS, THESE GUYS GOT, THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO GO OUT AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT PLAN NEEDS TO BE AT FOR HOW CAN WE FIND PARTNERSHIPS, SCHOLARSHIPS TO PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS, OR IF WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE PRICE AT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING AFTER SCHOOL RIGHT NOW AT $20 A KID TO BE PICKED UP AT SCHOOLS, RIGHT? IF WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT PRICE, BUT WE'RE ONLY RECOVERING 5% OF OUR COSTS INSTEAD OF THE 20 THAT WE TALKED ABOUT OR ZERO TO THE 20, RIGHT? AND WE CAN GET A SPONSOR OR A PARTNER THAT WANTS TO CO TO COME AND COVER US TO GET TO THAT 20%, TO THE MAXIMUM DOLLAR. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING PAY THE WHOLE THING, BUT AT LEAST WE GET TO THAT 20% THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RECOVER. SO IT JUST KIND OF, I KNOW THAT'S A LOT. THAT'S A LOT. I MEAN, WHEN I, WHEN WE STARTED, WHEN I STARTED AS A SMALL BUSINESS PARTNER WITH THE, THE DEPARTMENT, OUR SOCCER WAS 40 BUCKS. I STILL REMEMBER THAT PRICE. AND PEOPLE WERE LIKE, OH, 40 BUCKS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S, SO THIS IS, THIS IS 19. I, I SEE I GOTTA GO BACK COUPLE 10 CASES AGO, JOHN. IT JUST, JUST FOR ME AND YOU. YEAH. UH, . BUT WE STARTED AT 40 BUCKS. PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT WAS AN OUTRAGEOUS PRICE. THAT WAS 40 BUCKS ON A UNIFORM. WELL TODAY MY SAME ORGANIZATION, THE SAME ORGANIZATION I FOUNDED CHARGES $60. WE'VE GONE UP A WHOLE 20 BUCKS FROM 22 YEARS AGO TO NOW, BUT WE'VE GONE UP AND THAT'S NOT A UNIFORM THOUGH. YOU REMEMBER THAT? WE'VE GONE UP AND, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS. NOT A LOT, BUT EVERY, EVERY, THE SAME THING WE'RE DOING WITH THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE FIGURING OUT WHAT OUR INFLATION IS. HOW CAN WE, OH, SORRY, I'M ALREADY ON TIME. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE LOTS OF GOOD IDEAS. MY AREA. SO SORRY. YES. SO MUCH. YEAH, SO THANK YOU. I THINK ALL OF THIS WORK IS GREAT. I THINK THE FEEDBACK WE'VE BEEN GETTING FROM EVERYBODY IS VERY INSIGHTFUL AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. UM, I DO MIMIC WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF WORK AND CONSIDERATION DONE AS TO WHAT THE MARKET IS. I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE AND WHERE THE MARKET CAN SUSTAIN THOSE INCREASES IN COSTS AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET THE MOST KIND OF BANG FOR OUR BUCK. BUT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT YOU GUYS PUT TO US, I THINK THIS WOULD BEST BE DONE IN AN AD HOC COMMITTEE MEETING. UM, AND A SMALLER GROUP THAT CAN GET THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS AND REALLY DO A DEEP DIVE INTO, IS IT SPORTS FIELD RENTALS? IS IT, UM, AFTER SCHOOL? LIKE, WHAT ARE THE EXACT NUMBERS? BUT I THINK ALL THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING HERE IS GREAT, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK MY, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE A SMALLER COMMITTEE THAT I THINK COULD TACKLE THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. THIS IS AWESOME. SO, UH, SOMETHING MORE NO, NO, WE NEED, I NEED AN AD HOC OVER HERE TOO. I THINK A IS NOW BASED ON THAT THE LETTER OF SPIRIT IS JUST, UH, AMAZING. I THINK THE PARKS AND RECREATION DOES FOR CITIZEN WHAT THEY DO, BUT WE CANNOT IGNORE THE COST ESCALATIONS AND ALL THAT. EXACTLY. AND YOU SAID IT RIGHT, MR. JENKINS, A LOT OF US WILL DEPEND ON YOUR PROFESSIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND BASED ON DATA AND ALL. SO THAT NEEDS SOME DEEP DIVING AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. GREAT, GREAT, GREAT AND PERIOD OF THE TIME. SO WE LOOK FOR THE NEXT STEP AND I, I WILL ANNOUNCE AD HOC AND I KNOW MR. WILL BE ON IT, . THANK YOU. UH, THEN WITH THAT WE MOVE TO OUR NEXT BRIEFING, UH, MULTI-YEAR FUNDS UPDATE, UH, O'CONNOR. YEAH, SO MR. UH, MR. CHAIR AND THE BOARD, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, RYAN IS GOING, AND PATRICK'S GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF MULTI-YEAR FUNDS, BUT WE HAVE A, A, WE HAVE NEW BOARD MEMBERS AND EVERY SO OFTEN WE GIVE UPDATES, UH, ON OUR MULTI-YEAR FUNDS. UH, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY, AND WE ARE GONNA DO A SERIES OF THESE ON THE MULTI-YEAR FUNDS SO [01:50:01] EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WORK AND WHAT WE UTILIZE 'EM FOR. UH, THANK YOU DIRECTOR, IF YOU, SO YEAH, JUST TO, JUST TO REEMPHASIZE THAT. SO WE WILL, WE'LL BE BRINGING A TOTAL OF FOUR BRIEFINGS BEFORE THE BOARD STARTING WITH, UH, BRIEFING BEFORE YOU, WHICH IS RELATED TO TRUST AND ENDOWMENTS. THAT'LL BE FOLLOWED UP, UM, ON AUGUST 20TH, WHAT WHAT WE CALL OUR PROGRAM FUNDS. AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT CAPITAL FUNDS ULTIMATELY FAIR PARK. SO TODAY IS THE FIRST OF A SERIES, UM, SO THAT EVERYONE CAN BE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT, UM, ABOUT THESE FUNDING SOURCES. SO THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER AGAIN TO PATRICK WHO TAKE US THROUGH THE BRIEFING. GOOD MORNING ONCE AGAIN AND LIKE DIRECTOR JENKINS AND DIRECTOR O'CONNOR WAS EXPLAINING TODAY WE'D LIKE TO BEGIN A SERIES OF EDUCATIONAL BRIEFINGS REGARDING DEPARTMENT'S MULTIYEAR FUNDS. AND THAT CHANGE THAT TERM MULTIYEAR FUNDS IS INTERCHANGEABLE. DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES, A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES CALLED THESE RECORD REVOLVING FUNDS OR SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS. SO HAVING THE FUND, YOU KNOW, IS REALLY KNOWN AMONGST THE MUNICIPALITY WORLD. THIS IS NOTHING NEW AND THIS IS NOT A NEW FUND CREATED JUST FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION SYSTEM. BUT THIS PRESENTATION TODAY IS GOING TO, UM, SPECIFICALLY SPEAK ON OUR TRUST AND ENDOWMENT FUNDS. THESE FUNDS ARE ARE UNIQUE BECAUSE THEY ORIGINATE FROM DONOR GIFTS AND LEGALLY ESTABLISHED TRUSTS. THEY EXIST OUTSIDE OF OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND ARE INTENDED TO PRESERVE DONOR INTENT WHILE PROVIDING DEDICATED FUNDING FOR SPECIFIC PART ASSETS. OUR OBJECTIVE TODAY IS TO SIMPLY PROVIDE BACKGROUND AND UNDERSTANDING. WE ARE NOT ASKING THE BOARD TO TAKE ANY ACTION TODAY. INSTEAD WE WANT TO ESTABLISH A COMMON UNDERSTANDING BEFORE DISCUSSING THE DEPARTMENT'S BROADER PORTFOLIO OF MOST OF YOUR FUNDS AND FUTURE MEETINGS. SO THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S BRIEFING IS TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THESE ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT EXIST OUTSIDE OF OUR ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET. SPECIFICALLY WE'LL DISCUSS THE WHAT ARE MULTI-YEAR FUNDS, HOW THEY EXIST, HOW THEY'RE UTILIZED, THE CURRENT BALANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE TRUST AND ENDOWMENT FUNDS. AND TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS ALSO THE BEGINNING OF, ONCE AGAIN, A BROADER SERIES. FUTURE PRESENTATIONS WILL COVER OUR OPERATING PROGRAM FUNDS, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS, AND OUR FAIR PARK IMPROVEMENT FUNDS. SO THE BOARD HAS A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF OUR DEPARTMENTAL MULTI-YEAR RESOURCES. NOW, BEFORE, UH, DISCUSSING THE INDIVIDUAL FUNDS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO DEFINE WHAT WE MEAN BY MOST OF YOUR FUNDS. UNLIKE THE CITY'S ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET, WHICH IS APPROPRIATED AND EXPIRES EVERY PHYSICAL YEAR, MOST OF YOUR FUNDS REMAIN AVAILABLE OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. MANY OF THESE FUNDS WERE CREATED THROUGH GIFTS, TRUSTS, ENDOWMENTS, OR DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCES. THEY ARE ESTABLISHED TO ACCOMPLISH VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSES DEFINED BY THE DONOR OR GOVERNING DOCUMENTS RATHER THAN SUPPORTING GENERAL OPERATIONS, THESE RESOURCES, RESOURCES ARE INTENDED TO PRESERVE ASSETS, FUND IMPROVEMENTS, OR PROVIDE ONGOING STEWARDSHIP FOR DESIGNATED PARKS OR FACILITIES. IN OTHER WORDS, THESE FUNDS ARE DEDICATED RESOURCES, NOT DISCRETIONARY OPERATING DOLLARS. WHY DO MULTIYEAR FUNDS EXIST? WELL, THEY EXIST FOR TWO PRIMARY REASONS. FIRST, THEY HONOR THE DONOR'S INTENT. MANY GENEROUS INDIVIDUALS DONATED LAND, PROPERTY OR FINANCIAL ASSETS TO THE CITY WITH EXPECTATIONS, WITH SPECIFIC EXPECTATIONS REGARDING HOW THOSE RESOURCES ARE USED. THE CITY HAS BOTH A LEGAL AND THE ETHICAL RESPONSIBILITY TO SERVE THOSE INTENTIONS. SECONDLY, THESE FUNDS PROVIDE A RELIABLE SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS WHEN GENERAL FUND OR UNFUNDING MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE. PARTS FREQUENTLY EXPERIENCE UNEXPECTED MAINTENANCE NEEDS FROM IRRIGATION FAILURES TO STRUCTURAL REPAIRS. AND THESE FUNDS HELP US EXPAND WHILE CONTINUING TO PRESERVE VALUABLE COMMUNITY ACCESS. ULTIMATELY, THEY IMPROVE THE DEPARTMENT'S LONG-TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY BY PROVIDING DEDICATED RESOURCES OUTSIDE THE ANNUAL OPERATING APPROPRIATIONS. WHEN ARE THEY UTILIZED? THESE FUNDS ARE UTILIZED FOR APPROVED MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND NEW PROGRAMMING EFFORTS. HOWEVER, IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE EXPECT ARE STILL SUBJECT TO TO THE CITY'S FINANCIAL CONTROLS PROJECTS UTILIZING THESE FUNDS APPEAR ON AGENDA INFORMATION SEATS WHEN BOARD APPROVAL IS REQUIRED. AND IN ADDITION, ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS ARE ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE CITY'S REGULAR BUDGET PROCESS BEFORE EXPEDITIONS CAN OCCUR. SO WHILE THESE RESOURCES CARRY FORWARD FROM YEAR TO YEAR THAT ARE STILL GOVERNED [01:55:01] BY CITY BUDGETING, PROCUREMENT AND FINANCIAL OVERSIGHT PROCESSES. AND I'M GONNA SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON THIS SLIDE 'CAUSE BECAUSE THIS ILLUSTRATES THE LIFE CYCLE OF A TRUST OR AN ENDOWMENT, YOU KNOW, IT BEGINS WITH A DONOR MAKING A GIFT TO THE CITY THAT GIVE MAY CONSIST OF LAND, BUILDINGS, INVESTMENTS, CASH OR OTHER ASSETS. AND THOSE ASSETS THEN BEGIN GENERATING REVENUE OR INVESTMENT EARNINGS RATHER THAN SPENDING THE GIFTS SPENDING THE ORIGINAL GIFT, THE EARNINGS ACCUMULATE WITHIN THE TRUST FUND. AND OVER TIME THOSE ACCUMULATED RESOURCES ARE USED TO SUPPORT MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS CONSISTENT WITH THE DONORS INTENT. AS PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED, APPROPRIATIONS ARE ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE CITY'S BUDGET PROCESS FOLLOWING THE SAME PROCUREMENT PROCEDURES AS WE DO WITH OPERATING FUNDS. ANY PROJECT THAT IS OVER 50,000 STEEL REQUIRES PARK WATER APPROVAL AND THE RESULTS IS A SUSTAINABLE FUNDING MODEL THAT PRESERVES BOTH THE ORIGINAL GIFT AND THE LONG TERM STEWARDSHIP OF THOSE PARK ASSETS. AND I WILL SAY ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT EXAMPLES OF DONOR STEWARDSHIP WITHIN OUR PARK SYSTEM IS DR. WILLIAM WORTHINGTON. SAMUEL, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS SAY WW SAMUEL OR SAMUEL PARK OR SAMUEL GRAND, BUT I THINK WITH A A DONATION OF THAT MAGNITUDE, YOU KNOW, HE DESERVES HIS FULL NAME. AND SO UPON HIS DEATH, UH, IN 1937, DR. SAMUEL LEFT A HANDWRITTEN WILL THAT DONATED HIS ESTATE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS FOR PARK PURPOSES. ALTHOUGH THE WILL WAS REMARKABLY BRIEF, THE INTENT WAS VERY CLEAR THE LAND WAS TO REMAIN DEDICATED TO PARK PURPOSES AND SERVE AS A PERMANENT FOUNDATION FOR THE PARK AWARD. THAT GIVES US THE PROVIDED OVER 900 ACRES OF LAND AND MORE THAN ONE 2 MILLION TO THE DEPARTMENT TODAY. FROM THOSE DONATIONS, THEY INCLUDE MANY PROPERTIES SHOWN HERE, UH, SAMUEL REFORM, SAMUEL GRAND BUCKNER PARK, CRAWFORD MEMORIAL, JUST TO NAME A FEW. AND ALSO SOME OF OUR AWARD WINNING PROGRAMS LIKE OUR OUTDOOR ADVENTURE PROGRAMS. AND SO HIS GENEROSITY CONTINUES TO BENEFIT DALLAS RESIDENTS NEARLY 90 YEARS LATER. AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT THIS INVESTMENT IN 2020 $6, THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS INVESTMENT NOW WILL BE AT THE TUNE OF ABOUT 350 TO ABOUT $450 MILLION IN TODAY'S DOLLARS. UH, BASED ON WHAT WAS LEFT IN THE 1940S. CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT , SOMEBODY ACTUALLY GAVE A PARK SYSTEM EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ONE POINT, 1.2 MILLION 900 ACRES OF PEN, IT'S EQUIVALENT BACK THEN TO $400 MILLION DONATION THAT THEY LEFT TO THE PARK SYSTEM UNDER THE STEWARDSHIP. HE WAS VERY CLEAR, HE SAID, UP UNDER THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE PARK BOARD. ABSOLUTELY. AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS SLIDE PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT'S LARGEST TRUST FUND. THE WW C TRUST HAS A CORPUS OF APPROXIMATELY 11 MILLION. THE CORPUS REPRESENTS THE PRINCIPAL ASSETS OF THE TRUST AND ARE INTENDED TO REMAIN INVESTED. THE TRUST GENERATES ANNUAL EARNINGS THROUGH INTEREST, DIVIDENDS AND REVENUES FROM SAMUEL PROPERTIES. THOSE EARNINGS SUPPORT, MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS, NEW PROGRAMMING AND IMPROVEMENTS AT THE PROPERTIES IDENTIFIED IN THE TRUST. IMPORTANTLY, EXPENDITURES ARE RESTRICTED EXCLUSIVELY TO THOSE DESIGNATED PROPERTIES. AND AS OF JUNE THE 30TH, THE TRUST BOND BALANCE WAS APPROXIMATELY 6.6 MILLION. AND JUST REMIND THEM, YOU KNOW, THESE FUNDS CANNOT SIMPLY BE REDIRECTED TO OTHER PARTS BECAUSE THEY REMAIN LEGALLY RESTRICTED BY THE ORIGINAL TRUST AGREEMENT. YEAH, AND JUST I WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOARD UNDERSTAND THAT HE MENTIONED ABOUT THE CORPUS 'CAUSE REMEMBER THIS WAS LEFT IN A TRUST AND THE PARK, THE PARK, THE PARK BOARD, WE ARE JUST A BENEFACTOR. SO IT'S MANAGED BY A TRUST. AND SO WE GET THE DIVIDEND PAYMENTS, UH, WE GET THE INTEREST PAYMENTS AND THAT'S WHAT ACCUMULATED, YOU SEE THE $6.6 MILLION. BUT WE THINK THE CORPUS, WE HAVE TO CALL THE BANK AND FIND OUT WHAT'S THE LATEST CORPUS, BUT I THINK IT HAS TO BE IN THE RANGE OF PROBABLY 11 TO $12 MILLION ON CORPUS RIGHT NOW. BUT THIS COULD ONLY BE USED FOR SAMUEL PROPERTIES AND ANY OTHER PROPERTY THAT IF THE BOARD, IF THE BOARD BACK THEN AT THAT TIME THEY ACQUIRED A COUPLE PROPERTIES, UH, THEY SOLD A BUNCH OF PROPERTIES AND THEN THEY ACQUIRED SOME PROPERTIES. SO ANYTIME YOU USE THE SAMUEL FUNDS TO ACQUIRE FUTURE PROPERTY, THEN THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO STAY IN THAT PROPERTY. [02:00:05] AND IN ADDITION TO THE SAMUEL TRUST, THE DEPARTMENT MANAGES SEVERAL SMALLER TRUST AND ENDOWMENT FUNDS INCLUDED THE RAH RAH MEMORIAL ENDOWMENT, THE MARTIN WISE PARK TRUST, THE OCK PARK TRUST, AND EACH OF THESE FUNDS ESTABLISHED THROUGH INDIVIDUAL GIFTS OR ENDOWMENTS AND CARRIES ITS OWN UNIQUE, UH, RESTRICTIONS. ALTHOUGH SMALLER THAN THE SALARY TRUST, THESE FUNDS OPERATE ON THE SAME PRINCIPLES. REVENUE ACCUMULATES OVER TIME AND MAY ONLY BE USED FOR MAINTENANCE OR IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DESIGNATED PARTS IDENTIFIED IN EACH TRUST. AND COMBINED THIS ADDIT, THESE ADDITIONAL TRUST PERIOD, A CURRENT BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY 706,000. LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. YES SIR. BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THE BOARD WAS BRIEFED IN, I WANNA SAY WHEN BANK OF TEXAS CAME IN, THEY CAME IN AND THEY GAVE YOU ALL THE CORPUS AND THEN THEY GAVE YOU JUST THE CORPUS BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO COME IN EVERY YEAR AND BRIEF YOU ALL ON UH, THE RETURNS ON THOSE ON THAT, THAT PARTICULAR TRUST BECAUSE THE BOARD DO HAVE A TRUST DOCUMENT THAT GOVERNS THAT PARTICULAR TRUST. AND SO, BUT THOSE CORPUS IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU SEE, THE 7 0 6. 'CAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THE CREDIT, UH, IS PROBABLY IN IS, I CAN'T REMEMBER FROM THAT LAST BRIEFING, BUT I THOUGHT I SAW THE CREDIT WAS SITTING AROUND THREE OR $4 MILLION AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE . I THOUGHT IT WAS STILL SITTING AROUND, YOU KNOW, LIKE 800, $600,000. BUT I'M JUST TELLING WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET YOU ALL THAT, THAT SAME BRIEFING THAT THAT BANK OF AMERICA CAME IN. SO YOU'LL KNOW THE BALANCE ON THOSE, ON THE CORPUS ON THOSE. AND AS WE MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND AS WE CONCLUDE TODAY'S BRIEFING, I'D LIKE TO LEAVE THE BOARD WITH UH, THREE KEY MESSAGES. FIRST, MOST OF YOUR FUNDS EXIST BECAUSE CERTAIN RESOURCES EXTEND BEYOND A CERTAIN A SINGLE PHYSICAL YEAR. SECONDLY, THESE FUNDS STRENGTHEN FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP BY ALLOWING THE DEPARTMENT TO PLAN FOR MAINTENANCE AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OVER MULTIPLE YEARS. AND FINALLY, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, THESE FUNDS EXIST TO PRESERVE DONOR INTENT. EVERY EXPENSE MUST ALIGN WITH THE RESTRICTIONS ESTABLISHED BY THEIR ORIGINAL DONOR OR TRUST DOCUMENTS. THESE ARE DEDICATED RESOURCES, NOT GENERAL OPERATING FUNDS. AND THEY PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN PRESERVING THE LEGACY OF THOSE WHO INVESTED IN DALLAS PARKS. AND ONCE AGAIN, UH, TODAY'S PRESENTATION REPRESENTS THE FIRST STEP IN A LARGER CONVERSATION REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT'S MULTIYEAR FUNDS. WE WELCOME ANY FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE REGARDING TODAY'S OVERVIEW. BASED ON YOUR INPUT, STAFF WILL CONTINUE BRINGING ADDITIONAL BRIEFINGS COVERING THE REMAINING MOST OF YOUR FUND CATEGORIES. AND ONCE AGAIN, THOSE FUTURE PRESENTATIONS WILL INCLUDE THE OPERATING AND PROGRAM FUNDS, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDS, AS WELL AS FAIR PARK FUNDS. ONCE AGAIN, NOT THAT THERE IS NO ACTION REQUESTED TODAY, OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT THE BOARD HAS A COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING OF THE DEPARTMENT'S FINANCIAL RESOURCES BEFORE ANY FUTURE POLICY DISCUSSIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE PRESENTED. AND WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE BOARD'S AWARE THAT THERE IS SLIGHTS AND SOME STATEMENTS AND WHISPER OUT THERE LIKE OUR DEPARTMENT GOT SOME SECRET FUNDS, WE DON'T HAVE NO SECRET FUNDS. THIS FUND BEEN AROUND SINCE 1937. AND EVERY TIME YOU APPROVE A ITEM, OKAY, WHERE IT SAYS ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN OUR BUDGET OR ANY TIME YOU APPROVE A PURCHASE AND WE SAY IT IS COMING FROM A MULTI-YEAR FUND THAT IS ON THE DOCUMENT, IT GOES BEFORE THE BOARD AND THEN THE SAME DOCUMENTATION GOES BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. AND ANYTIME WE'RE TRYING TO GET ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, WE WORK WITH THE BUDGET FINANCE OFFICE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL HAS TO APPROPRIATE THOSE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FROM THE TRUST OR ANY MULTI-YEAR FUND WE USE. SO DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, THEY HAVE TO APPROPRIATE THAT 'CAUSE WE JUST CAN'T GO. IF IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE BY THE COUNCIL, WE CAN'T GO SPEND THAT MONEY. AND THAT'S WHY EVERY YEAR WE MAY SAY, LOOK, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE GR WIRE TRUST OR I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE GR WILD AND CRATIC THAT WE MAY NEED $200,000 OUT THERE SO WE HAVE TO GET IT APPROPRIATED 'CAUSE WE JUST CAN'T GO SPEND IT. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION BEING PUT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW AND I'M GONNA LET YOU ALL KNOW I'M ALWAYS GONNA MAKE SURE WE PUT THE FACTS OUT THERE AND, AND NOT GOSSIP MISINFORMATION. AWESOME, THANKS AND THANKS FOR THE FORESIGHT OF THE NOT TO PUT IT IN OPERATING FORMS. IT WOULD BE LONG GONE. MRTA. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. YEAH, WHEN I WAS OFFERING THIS LETTER AGAIN LAST NIGHT, I THINK THEY CAME THROUGH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME IS IT, BUT I WAS READING THROUGH THIS. SO [02:05:01] THE MINIMUM, SO WHAT'S THE, IS THERE A THRESHOLD THAT YOU CAN'T GET BELOW THIS NUMBER AND USE IT IN ANY OF THOSE FUNDS? YEAH, SO LET'S TAKE THE, LIKE I SAID THE, THE, THE PRESS DOCUMENT, UH, WHICH THE BOARD APPROVED IN 2012, THAT TRUST DOCUMENT SAYS THEY WANT TO PROTECT THE CORPUS. SO IT'S LIKE NO, IT CANNOT GO BELOW. AND THEY MADE SURE THE INVESTMENTS WERE SET UP IN A WAY THAT THE CORPUS IS ALWAYS PROTECTED. AND SO, YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT'S THE WAY THOSE ARE SET UP. BUT BECAUSE THE SAMUEL TRUST WE'RE JUST A BENEFACTOR. SO THERE IS, THEY MANAGE THE TRUST. WE JUST THE BENEFACTOR WHO GETS THE INTEREST AND THE DIVIDENDS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND THEN, UM, YEAH, THAT WAS ONE OF MY, I SAW THAT LAST TIME I WAS READING THE PAPER AND I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GET BELOW THIS NUMBER. IT'S LIKE AT HOME YOU HAVE A SAVINGS OR YOU DOING SOMETHING YOU SAID CAN'T SPEND SAVINGS ON THIS, BUT YOU SAVE IT. UH, AND THE OTHER THING IS I'M HAPPY I DIDN'T KNOW OAK CLIFF FOUNDERS PARK WAS PART OF THE SAMUEL GROUP AND THAT'S, AND I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THAT NOW BECAUSE I I I WOULD'VE BEEN FIGURING OUT HOW TO USE SOME OF THAT MONEY THERE. THAT'S THAT I PERSONAL POINT. THANK YOU SO MUCH DR. SAMUEL. EVIDENTLY WAS A PROLIFIC LANDOWNER AT A POINT IN THE PAST ON PROPERTIES ALL OVER. YEAH. MR. MCGAIN, WELL I'LL MAKE THAT SAME POINT. CR MEMORIAL MUCH DISCUSSED A LOCATION THESE DAYS. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, THE SAMUEL TRUST ACTUALLY. SO THERE'S AN $11 MILLION CORPUS POINT, $6 MILLION BENEFICIARY FUND THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. HOW LONG HAS IT TAKEN THAT SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD UP? YEAH, SO JUST REMEMBER OVER YEARS, UH, THAT, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THE FUND'S BEEN AROUND, SO THERE'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN EXPENDITURES OUT OF LIKE THE INTEREST AND THE, UH, AND THE DIVIDENDS WE GET. UH, SO I'M GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. LIKE, UH, THERE WAS MONEY WHEN THE TRAIL WAS BUILT OUT, CRAWFORD, UH, THAT TRAIL WAS BUILT WITH THE SAMUEL TRUST FUNDS. UH, THERE, I I WANNA SAY IT'S SAMUEL GRAND. THEY HAVE USED MONEY IN THE PAST FOR SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OVER SAMUEL GRAND ON THE TENON SIDE YEAH. THAT THEY USED. SO, SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S 6.6 OVER, PROBABLY OVER THE LAST, WHAT, WHAT SINCE 1937. I I ASSURE YOU THIS THING HAS THROWN OFF PROBABLY $80 MILLION JUST IN INTEREST IN DIVIDEND PAYMENTS THAT'S BEEN USED FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE, ON THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES. YEAH, NO, I DON'T, I DON'T QUESTION THAT AT ALL. I WAS JUST CURIOUS LIKE WHAT THE AVERAGE BILL RATE IS FOR PER YEAR, JUST SO YOU KNOW, PER YEAR ON AVERAGE. 'CAUSE IT'S, IT IS SET UP ONCE AGAIN WHERE BENEFACTOR AVERAGE, UH, THOSE PAYMENTS CAN BE ABOUT $400,000 A YEAR. AND THEN SOMETIME WHEN THEY RETURN EXCEEDS THEIR, UH, ASSUMED RATE OF RETURN, UH, THEN YOU GET WHAT THEY GIVE LIKE YOUR BALLOON PAYMENT. SO IF THEY HAVING A GOOD YEAR FAR AS THE TRUST, SO INSTEAD OF THE AVERAGE OF 400, THEN YOU MAY END UP GETTING A BALLOON PAYMENT OF ANOTHER 200. OKAY, SO 12 TO 15 YEARS OR SO? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THE MAIN REASON I'M ASKING IS JUST FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING IS DO WE HAVE THE OPTION OF TAKING ANY OF THOSE FUNDS AND ADDING THEM BACK INTO THE CORPUS TO MAKE IT LARGER, TO INCREASE THE POTENTIAL? YOU KNOW, MY, THE STAFF ASKED ME THAT QUESTION THE OTHER DAY AND, AND BECAUSE IT'S A TRUST, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE THAT TO, WE CAN'T DIRECT THEM BACK INTO THE CORPUS TO GROW THE THE FUND. UH, OKAY. I JUST CURIOUS. UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO INVITE ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT HAS A FEW HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS ON AROUND THAT TO UH, DONATE IT TO OUR DEPARTMENT. UM, I'M SURE WE CAN HANDLE IT. THINK ABOUT IT. MR. GRAD, HOW MANY GENERATIONS HAVE BENEFITED FROM THAT DONATION FROM SAMUEL? FROM SAMUEL TRUST? AMAZING. AND MANY MORE. I'M JUST SAYING IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD BEFORE, SO IF SOMEONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO WALK IT, WE'RE READY AND WAITING FOR YOUR INTEREST, MR. WOOD. THANK YOU. SO WHEN WE START, LIKE WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE REVENUE GENERATING THINGS, UM, SAMUEL FARM, WE'VE GOT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GENERATING REVENUE WHEN WE PUT THAT MONEY BACK IN. AND IT HAS TO BE ANYTHING GENERATED AT THESE LIKE PROFIT PARK I THINK HAS OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREAT REVENUE, UM, GENERATING 'CAUSE IT'S SO BIG AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES. UM, I THINK WE HAVE SOME GREENHOUSES THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, RENT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, OR DEVELOP THAT INTO SOMETHING, UM, USABLE. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CAN FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD, UM, CAN WE CHARGE BACK THE MAINTENANCE, [02:10:01] THE, THE EXPENSES, UM, FOR OPERATING ALL THOSE PARKS SO THAT IT'LL TAKE OFF THE EXPENSE OFF THE REST OF THE PARK SYSTEM. UM, BECAUSE THESE PARKS SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE SUSTAINED WITH THAT, UM, MODEL. IF WE GET TO A REVENUE GENERATING, UH, LIKE I THINK SAMUEL FARM COULD LITERALLY BE A REVENUE GENERATING ENGINE FOR THE SAMUEL TRUST. UM, OR IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAMUEL TRUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE BENEFICIARY OF IT, BUT IT COULD BE A REVENUE GENERATING ENGINE FOR THE SAMUEL PROPERTIES, UM, WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM. SO ARE WE SET UP TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO CHARGE BACK, UM, THE, THE EXPENSES FOR, YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE, THE STAFF COSTS, UM, AND ALL OF THAT ALONG THE WAY? UH, JUST FROM HISTORY, AND I REMEMBER THAT WHEN MR. TIM DICKEY WAS ON THE BOARD, UH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BALANCING ACT HERE YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO UN DONATED MONEY AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S USED FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND PROGRAMMING TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THESE PROPERTIES OVER TIME. AND SO THE REAL QUESTION IS DO YOU REALLY WANNA SPEND ALL THIS MONEY ON OPERATIONS? 'CAUSE MS. TIM DICKEY POSITION WAS US. WE DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE DONOR. I DON'T, I DON'T, LET ME CLARIFY REAL QUICK. OKAY. NOT THE, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE SPENDING THE CORPUS OR THE, THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING OFF THE TRUST. I'M SAYING THE REVENUE, IF WE'RE GENERATING REVENUE AT THE PROPERTIES, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SUSTAINING THE, THE OPERAT, NOT THE, NOT THAT, UM, REVENUES FROM THE TRUST, BUT NOT, IT'S NOT EVEN REVENUES, IT'S NOT THE HOW'S THE INTEREST, THE, OR THE INTEREST DIVIDENDS FROM THE TRUST. I DON'T WANNA SPEND THAT $6 MILLION FOR THE MOWING AND ALL OF THAT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE MAKE $200,000 FOR, YOU KNOW, AN EVENT THAT $200,000 SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE SPREAD ACROSS THOSE 15 PARKS THAT ARE UTILIZED FOR THE SAME PROPERTIES. AND YOU KNOW, PUT THAT'S WHY I WAS GONNA SAY THAT IF WE, WE WERE SENDING UP WHERE YOU USING FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE I DID IN THE PAST TO GET US STARTED WITH THE OUTDOOR ADVENTURES AT SAMMY FARM. 'CAUSE THERE WAS NO ACTIVITIES GOING ON FOR PROBABLY SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS. THE BOARD DIRECTED US TO USE, UH, A CERTAIN AMOUNT FROM THAT, FROM THE, UH, FROM THE TRUST TO PROVIDE FOR OPERATIONS AND THEN ALLOW THE REVENUE SINCE IT CAME FROM THE TRUST, ALLOW ALL THOSE REVENUES TO GO BACK INTO THAT OPERATION. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF SOMEBODY CAME ALONG AND WAS SELLING, WE GETTING ALL THESE REVENUES IN THE PROPERTY, BUT WE DIDN'T USE GENERAL FUND TO GET THAT OPERATIONS GOING, THEN YES, ALL THAT MONEY CAN REMAIN, UH, GO BACK . I I I UNDERSTAND LIKE IF WE SAY WE INVEST A MILLION DOLLARS TO PUT A ADVENTURE, SOMETHING AT THE FARM, WE'VE GOTTA REPAY THAT MILLION DOLLARS BACK INTO THAT INTEREST POT SO THAT WE HAVE OUR MULTI-YEAR FUND BUILT BACK. YOU COULD DO THAT. THAT'S CORRECT. ONCE THAT'S BUILT BACK, ANY OTHER REVENUE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED AT ANY ONE OF THOSE 15 PARKS. BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE SPIRIT OF, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY AT ANY OF THE SAMUEL PROPERTIES. YEAH. AS LONG AS YOU GROW THAT, I MEAN, I, I MEAN, I THINK THAT, AND, AND IT SHOULD BE ONLY OUT OF THE REVENUE THAT WE GET. YEAH. NOT NECESSARILY OUT OF THE INTEREST PAYMENTS, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT SHOULD BE FOR THE CAPITAL AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST MAY, YOU JUST MAY NEED SOME STARTUP MONEY LIKE WE DID WITH THE OUTDOOR VENTURE RIGHT. TO GET IT GOING. YEP. AND THEN ONCE YOU GOT IT GOING, THEN YOU HIT A, A, A STEADY REVENUE STREAM. GREAT. THANK YOU. AWESOME. AND MR. KARIMI, THANK YOU. UM, IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY, I KNOW THAT, UM, MR. SAMUEL WASN'T THE ONLY PERSON WHO LEFT LAND AND DOLLARS TO OUR CITY. ARE THERE ANY NOTABLE OTHERS THAT MAYBE WE CAN LEARN ABOUT IN THE FUTURE? YEAH, I'M NOT AWARE OF RYAN MAY KNOW, BUT AS FAR AS THE PARK, THIS MONEY OR JUST AS FAR AS THE PARK DONATIONS, THE ONES, THE TRUST, I SAID OH YEAH, OF COURSE. YEAH. I MEAN, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, LIKE, IT WASN'T A TRUST SET UP, LIKE, UH, KEYS. MM-HMM . OR WHAT? HE LEFT, HE LEFT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AT THAT TIME. HE, HE, HE LEFT, HE LEFT THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO BUILD THE, UH, TO BUILD THE, UH, NOT THE CLUB OUT, THE, THE ENTERTAINMENT, THE BRICK BUILDING FOR, WHAT'S THAT CALLED? UH, THE BRICK BUILDING THAT HE LEFT, UH, WHERE WE USED TO HAVE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE. YEAH, THE OLD ALL IN WEST STREET AND HEADQUARTERS. YEAH. OLD WEST STREET. HE, HE LEFT THAT AS LIKE AN ENTERTAINMENT VENUE [02:15:01] FOR PEOPLE COULD COME IN. SO HE SPENT A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND PLUS HE LEFT, UH, THE 200, WELL, 207, ALMOST 280 ACRES HE LEFT. AND THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS AT THAT TIME, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST GIFT. AND, AND O CLIFF WAS, I, I JUST REMEMBER LOOKING AT ALL THE, THE, UH, THE HISTORY ON THAT. AND I JUST REMEMBER SEEING THE PICTURES. YOU WERE JUST SAYING, UH, CITY OF DALLAS THAT WAY. I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE. I SWEAR IT'S A BIG SHOES TO FILL MAR BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE TRUCK. YEAH. MARGARET WEISS AND ROD WALLER AND, UH, THOSE ALL WERE LEFT THERE. THERE'S SEVERAL NOTABLE OTHERS, LIKE PROBABLY LIKE WILLIAM TENON AND HENRY XAL. AND THIS GOES ON AND ON AND ON ME. YEAH, EXACTLY RIGHT. YES. IF I MADE DONATIONS, JUST STRAIGHT DONATIONS TO THE PARK SYSTEM, BUT DIDN'T SET UP A TRUST, IT DIDN'T SET UP A TRUST. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO LET ME JUST ASK THIS OTHER QUESTION. SO WHEN, WHEN WE APPROVE SPENDING FROM THIS, CLEARLY WE'RE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO MAKE AN APPROVAL, RIGHT. WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS BEYOND PARK BOARD? LIKE WHERE DOES IT GO FOR ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY? YEAH, FOR ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A AI A IS SHEET, AND THAT AI SHEET THAT A IS SHEET TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM. AND SO THAT WOULD NEXT GO TO THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE, TO APPROVE THOSE FUNDS BEING EXPANDED. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIKE A SHARED ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESS, WE'RE SHARING THAT ACCOUNTABILITY WITH CITY COUNCIL. THEY'RE SHARING IT BACK WITH US. NO, THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S FULLY SHARED. OKAY. I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE CLEAR. WE'RE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE MAKING THESE DECISIONS. NO. IT'S THE SAME PROCESS WHERE ANYTHING, THE BOARD MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. OKAY. BEAUTIFUL. AND, AND THEN THE COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL PROOF. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND MR. PKA, I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW ROBIN IS HERE LISTENING. SO THAT'S, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT CELEBRATING OUR HUNDRED 50TH ANNIVERSARY, THE PARK SYSTEM. I THINK WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY FOCUS ON SOME MEANINGFUL DONORS THAT HAVE PROVIDED OVER THE PAST ONE 50. SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE AN ELEMENT THAT WE, THAT WE REALLY FOCUS ON. AND THERE'S ALL SORTS OF FOLKS. LARRY JOHNSON, THE BASKETBALL PLAYER AT THE REC CENTER. I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO ALL SORTS OF FOLKS THAT HAVE MADE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS SYSTEM OVER THE YEARS, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CELEBRATE THEM AS PART OF THE ONE 50. YEAH, THAT'S SO TRUE. WE, ROLAND G PARIS MADE A MILLION DOLLAR GIFT. UH, LIKE I SAID BACK THEN, UH, LARRY JOHNSON MADE A MILLION DOLLAR GIFT TO BUILD REC CENTER. I MEAN, WE'VE GONE ALONG ABOUT PROBABLY 30 INDIVIDUALS UN MADE INDIVIDUAL GIFTS IN THIS PARK SYSTEM. THAT'S STORY TO SHARE. I SEE ONE THROUGH OUR OTHER PARTNERSHIPS, HAMPERING. THAT'S ONE THING ABOUT THE PARK SYSTEM, IS PEOPLE WANT TO GIVE AND WE WANT TO PAY. THAT'S TO RECEIVE. MR. CON. YEAH. THANK YOU, SIR. I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP ON MR. EMI'S POINT THERE. 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION, ESPECIALLY AS WE GO INTO BUDGET SEASON ACCOUNTABILITY. THAT WORD HAS KIND OF BECOME A BUZZ WORD I'VE HEARD A LOT. AND ULTIMATELY, THIS BOARD IS ACCOUNTABLE TO EACH OTHER AND TO THE CITIZENS, BUT WE'RE NOT THE FINAL AUTHORITY. EVERYTHING WE DO, THIS WAS EVIDENT IN THE BOND PROCESS. WE HAD LAST MINUTE CHANGE IN THE BOND PROCESS WHEN WE RECOMMENDED THINGS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. WE'VE HAD ITEMS IN MY SIX, ALMOST SEVEN YEARS, OR SEVEN, ALMOST EIGHT YEARS ON THE PARK BOARD WHERE WE'VE SENT TO COUNCIL. THEY'VE DISAGREED WITH IT. KEYT WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE, UM, WHERE THINGS GOT TURNED AROUND, BUT ULTIMATELY THE ACCOUNTABILITY LIES WITH THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL. SO, UH, I WANTED TO REALLY TOUCH DOWN ON THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT POINT, RUDY. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT WORD, ACCOUNTABILITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR CONNOR. WELL, AGAIN, A GREAT FOR, UH, APPRECIATE IT. AND HOPEFULLY SOME BIG DONORS ARE LISTENING TO IT AND YOU MOTIVATE THEM TO, TO HELP THIS PART SYSTEM SO THAT, UH, I GUESS WE CAN LET YOU BE THERE. MR. CONNOR? NO. YES, YOU ARE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE. UH, JUST A, JUST A VERY, VERY QUICK UPDATE. UH, I BELIEVE WE PUT UP AN MEMO ON THIS, BUT, UH, THE CONSULTANT WILL BE DOING STATISTICALLY, STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY, UM, TO SEEK, UH, OUR CITIZENS' OPINIONS ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT RECREATION SYSTEM. THAT IS, UH, WILL BE UNDERWAY SOON. AND THE, UH, CONSULTANT CONTINUES TO MAKE PROGRESS ON, UH, ON THE KIND OF RESEARCH PIECE OF THE PROCESS. SO, MR. CRITICAL, THANK YOU. AND THEN WE FINISH IT UP WITH FISCAL YEAR WHAT DAY, HUH? I KNOW, UH, RYAN, AND, UH, MR. FENNELL IS GONNA TAKE YOU THROUGH IT, BUT I JUST, ONCE AGAIN, Y'ALL HAVE A HANDOUT ON YOUR, ON YOUR RIGHT FOR YOU ON YOUR DESK. [02:20:01] I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, SO WE CAN KEEP EVERYTHING IN PERSPECTIVE. UM, AND I JUST, IT JUST SHOWS YOU WITH THIS, WITH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO LOOK FOR EFFICIENCIES AND HAVE ALWAYS PARTICIPATED IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE FOUND SOME SAVINGS, HELP BALANCE THE OVERALL CITY'S BUDGET EVERY YEAR AND APPRECIATE THE BOARD PARTICIPATING. AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT NUMBER IS, PLUS THIS YEAR WILL BE $8.4 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED EFFICIENCIES. BUT ALSO I WANT, I HAVE ON THAT SHEET TO SHOW YOU AGAIN, OUR HEAD COUNT FOR THE PARK DEPART, RICK, SINCE 2020 AND UP TO 2025, OUR ORIGINAL HEAD COUNT WAS 1,575. OUR HEAD COUNT AS OF 2025 IS 1,553. SO WE ARE 67 POSITIONS DOWN. HOWEVER, OUR PART SYSTEM HAS CONTINUED TO EXPAND AND THE DEMAND ON THE PARK SYSTEM, AS WE HAVE ADDED OVER 630 NEW ACRES TO THE PARK SYSTEM, WE HAVE ADDED OVER 24 MILES OF TRAILS. WE HAVE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING THROUGHOUT THIS SYSTEM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RE TO GIVE UP $8.4 MILLION IN EFFICIENCIES AND REDUCE OUR HEAD COUNT WHILE WE'RE STILL EXPANDING OUR SERVICES. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE POINT THAT OUT AND WE CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, IN THE PROCESS, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. BUT I HAVE TO SAY, I GOTTA WEAN US OFF OF THIS GENERAL FUND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. BUT WE ARE GONNA KEEP GOING. I DON'T SEE MUCH RELIEF GOING FORWARD. AND IT'S ONLY BECAUSE I SEE, AND I SAID THIS BEFORE IN THE MEETING, BECAUSE I SEE OUR, THE FINANCIAL STRUCTURE, OUR NEW REALITY FINANCIAL STRUCTURE GOING FORWARD FOR THE CITY HAS CHANGED. AND SO THE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S WHY WE KEEP ADJUSTING OUR OPERATIONAL STRUCTURE TO MEET THE NEW REALITY OF THE NEW FINANCIAL STRUCTURE GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE IT AIN'T GONNA BE THE SAME REVENUES COMING INTO THE CITY ANYMORE. BECAUSE THERE IS THE CAP, AND I'M GONNA SAY IT AGAIN PUBLICLY, THERE IS THE CAP NOW FROM THE STATE ON HOW MUCH REVENUES THE CITY CAN GENERATE FAR AS PROPERTY TAXES ON THE RATE THEY CAN CHARGE. THERE IS THE REALITY OF THE PENSION PLANS THAT THERE WILL BE MORE GOING INTO THE PENSION PLANS THAN IF YOU HEARD THE BRIEFING YESTERDAY, 2030. THERE WILL BE ALMOST A HUNDRED PLUS GOING INTO THE POLICE AND FIRE AND CIVILIAN PENSION PLAN. AND THEN, UH, AND THEN, UH, RYAN, I, AND THEN THE THIRD IS PROPOSITION WHERE HALF THE MONEY FROM THE CITY HAVE TO GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THAT IS FINE. BUT, BUT WE AS A DEPARTMENT CONTINUE TO NOW CHANGE OUR OPERATION STRUCTURE TO MEET THE REALITY OF THE NEW FINANCIAL STRUCTURE GOING FOR THE CITY, PERIOD. AND THAT DOES INCLUDE US HAVING TO BRING IN ADDITIONAL REVENUES, LOOK AT, IS THIS THE RIGHT, RIGHT FINANCIAL STRUCTURE FOR US? I'M TALKING ABOUT FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA LOOK AT EVERYTHING YOU ALL, BUT I'M TELLING YOU'ALL WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING US TO START CHANGING THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS BECAUSE MY OPERATIONAL STRUCTURE GOTTA MEET THE NEW REALITY OF, OF THE NEW, UH, FINANCIAL STRUCTURE GOING FORWARD. AND THAT'S WHY YOU HEARD US KEEP SAYING, WE ARE GETTING RID OF A LOT OF SERVICES BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR CORE. IN ORDER TO MEET THIS NEW FINANCIAL STRUCTURE, ALL YOU ARE, AND BEFORE YOU START TO UNDERSTAND WHO NEEDS TO LEAVE, HE NEEDS TO MAKE A STATEMENT. YEAH. JUST, I, I, RYAN, JOHN TOUCHED ON IT A SECOND, BUT YOU AND I WERE TALKING BEFORE THE, THE MEETING ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT JOHN JUST TALKED ABOUT. AND I THINK IT'S WORTH STOPPING DOWN ON TO SET CONTEXT FOR YOUR, I I'M GONNA WATCH ONLINE, BUT JACK IRELAND SAID SOMETHING AT COUNCIL YESTERDAY THAT I'VE, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT I'VE NEVER HEARD HIM SAY BEFORE. AND THAT IS THAT THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT IS NEEDED FROM THE CITY BUDGET IN 2030 TO GO TO THE PENSION FUNDS. UM, AND WHERE'S THAT MONEY GONNA COME FROM? AND SO I THINK THAT SETS CONTEXT FOR WHAT RYAN'S ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT MORE THAN WHAT JOHN JUST SAID, BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING, JOHN, YOU SAID THAT IN A LONG SENTENCE, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING YOU REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS FOUR YEARS FROM NOW A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS DIFFERENCE TO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? [02:25:02] YES, SIR. AND, UH, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CHALLENGES, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE FACING HERE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS ARE REAL. AND WE'VE JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'VE GOT A GOOD PLAN IN PLACE AND THAT WE ARE WORKING EVERY DAY TO COME UP WITH STRATEGIES TO MEET THE CHALLENGE. SO, UH, MR. FENNELL IS GONNA RUN THROUGH VERY QUICKLY KIND OF WHERE WE ARE, UH, WHERE WE WERE. UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, SOME THINGS LOOKING FORWARD. SO, UH, MR. PHENOMENA, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE BACK AGAIN, BUT THIS WILL BE MY LAST TIME TODAY, . TODAY WE'D LIKE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE FISCAL YEAR 26 27 PROPOSED BUDGET, INCLUDING THEIR ORIGINAL BUDGET PACKAGE THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE DEPARTMENT, THE ADDITIONAL REDUCTION AS THAT WAS RECEIVED FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AND THE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSE TO THAT REQUEST IS IN OUR OUTLOOK MOVING FORWARD. NOW, I WILL SAY THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, OUR OBJECTIVE HAS BEEN TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO SUPPORT SERVICES WHILE HELPING THE CITY ADDRESS THIS OVERALL FINANCIAL STATUS. JUMPING RIGHT INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET STUFF, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN SAY TO, I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE PRESENTATION'S ONLINE. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU ARE GONNA SAY TOWARDS THE END THAT WE CAN GET KNOCKED ON NOW? WELL, YES, I'LL GO AHEAD, GET THE PRE, UM, WHILE WE'RE QUEUING UP THE PRESENTATION, BUT, UM, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT MR. CONNOR JUST SHARED. UM, SO AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD FROM THIS BUDGET HERE, UM, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE BOARD ABOUT. SO YOU'LL RECALL, UM, TODAY WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE NEED TO GENERATE NEW REVENUES. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NON-TRADITIONAL REVENUE STRATEGIES, WHETHER IT'S, UM, LOOKING AT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES, IT'S LOOKING AT ADVERTISING IN SMART WAYS AND LIMITED WAYS. UM, BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO FOCUS ON. UH, THERE WILL BE . IS IT? OKAY, GOOD. READY, . SO I'M GONNA ALMOST RIGHT THERE, PATRICK, GO. THAT'S NOT GOOD. SO YOU RIGHT INTO OUR PROPOSED BUDGET. YOU KNOW, I'LL BEGIN WITH THE ORIGINAL BUDGET PACKAGE SUBMITTED BY THE DEPARTMENT AS PART OF THE 27. THIS WILL BE A 27 BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THE DEPARTMENT IDENTIFIED THE ABOVE THE LINE SERVICE CUTS, AS WELL AS THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO OFFSET ANY FURTHER SERVICE LEVEL REDUCTION ON OUR LEFT SIDE. UH, ARE THE PARK WATER APPROVED REDUCTIONS SUBMITTED BY THE DEPARTMENT. COLLECTIVELY, THEY REPRESENT ABOUT TWO POINT, UH, THREE 9 MILLION. RATHER THAN RELYING SOLELY ON SERVICE REDUCTIONS, THE DEPARTMENT ALSO PROPOSED REOCCURRING REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS. AND SO TOGETHER THOSE REOCCURRING REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 2.4 MILLION. AND COMBINED, THE DEPARTMENT SUBMITTED AN ORIGINAL PACKAGE TOTALING APPROXIMATELY 4.8 MILLION CONSISTING OF BOTH EXPONENTIAL REDUCTIONS AND REOCCURRING REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS. AND AT THE TIME OF THIS SUBMISSION, WE BELIEVED THAT THIS PACKAGE WAS APPROPRIATELY, THIS PACKAGE APPROPRIATELY BY BALANCED PHYSICAL RESPONSIBILITY WHILE MINIMIZING IMPACTS SERVICE. AND NOW THE NEXT SLIDE, OUR, UM, ADDITIONAL REDUCTION REQUEST. FOLLOWING THE SUBMISSION OF OUR ORIGINAL PACKAGE, THE CITY MANAGER OFFICE REQUESTED THAT CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS IDENTIFIED AN ADDITIONAL 1.5 MILLION IN REDUCTIONS. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST WAS TO HELP FUND MERIT INCREASES FOR NON-UNIFORM CITY EMPLOYEES. UM, AND IN RESPONSE, THE DEPARTMENT EVALUATED ADDITIONAL STRATEGIES THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED IF, UH, NECESSARY. NOW, THE STAFF IDENTIFIED TWO PLACEHOLDER REDUCTIONS TOTALING, UH, 550 K, A REDUCTION IN LITTER COLLECTION FREQUENCY, APPROXIMATELY THREE AND A HALF DAYS TO THREE DAYS PER MATING CYCLE. AND SECONDLY, AN ADDITIONAL REDUCTION TO THE DALLAS, UH, ZOO STIPEND. AND NOW THESE WERE IDENTIFIED AS PLACEHOLDER STRATEGIES BECAUSE ADDITIONAL REDUCTION OF THIS MAGNITUDE BEGAN TO DIRECTLY AFFECT [02:30:01] SERVICE LEVEL PARTNERSHIPS. AND IN ADDITION, UH, THE CITY MANAGER OFFICE PROPOSED APPROXIMATELY 300 K THROUGH CONSOLIDATION OF POSITIONS AND REDUCTIONS IN CONFERENCE, FOOD AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. AND TOGETHER THESE ITEMS REQUEST THE DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSE TO THE CITY'S ADDITIONAL REDUCTION REQUEST. AND NOW THE NEXT SLIDE JUST SUMMARIZES THE DEPARTMENT'S OVERALL FINANCIAL COMMITMENT. DURING THE FISCAL 27 BUDGET PROCESS, BEGINNING WITH OUR ORIGINAL SUBMITTED PACKAGE, 4.8 MILLION, THEN WE IDENTIFIED AN ADDITIONAL OF FIVE 50 IN PLACEHOLDER REDUCTIONS. THE, UH, CITY MANAGER OFFICE PROPOSED THE APPROXIMATELY 300 ADDITIONAL REDUCTIONS. AND FINALLY, UH, THE DEPARTMENT COMMITTED TO A $2.1 MILLION ONETIME TRANSFER TRANSFER FROM THE RECREATION PROGRAM FUND. AND I'LL SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF ON ON THAT, UH, TRANSFER, LIKE WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING WITH OUR MULTI-YEAR FUNDS. THIS NEXT BRIEFING WILL COVER OUR OPERATING AND PROGRAM FUNDS. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE FUNDS THAT SIT IN THAT CATEGORY. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT TRANSFER ALLOWS US TO BALANCE THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET, BUT IT DOES COMES WITH, UH, CONSEQUENCES. SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, IT DELAYS REPLACEMENT OF RECREATION CENTER FITNESS EQUIPMENT. UH, IT DELAYS, UH, EQUIPMENT UPGRADES OR FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR UNEXPECTED RECREATION CENTER MAINTENANCE. SO ALTOGETHER, THE DEPARTMENT HAS COMMITTED APPROXIMATELY 7.8 MILLION TOWARDS BALANCING THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET. AND I LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT'S TOTAL COMMITMENT OF 7.8 REPRESENTS MORE THAN JUST BUDGET REDUCTION. IT REFLECTS, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONAL DECISIONS, DELAYED INVESTMENTS IN OUR FACILITIES, AND A CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO HELPING THE CITY BALANCE ITS BUDGET WHILE PROTECTING THE SERVICES OUR RESIDENTS PROVIDED THE MOST. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR O'CONNOR. YEAH, AND JUST, JUST REALLY QUICKLY, AS I WAS SAYING A MOMENT AGO, UM, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON NEW REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS PARK SYSTEM, BUT ALSO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT EFFICIENCIES. UM, WE, WE HAVE TO PROTECT CORE SERVICES, SO WE NEED TO DO THAT THROUGH IDENTIFYING EFFICIENCIES, UM, UTILIZING PARTNERSHIPS SO THAT WE'RE NOT REDUCING SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS, BUT WE'RE FINDING EFFICIENCIES WITHIN OUR BUDGET. SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT OUR ATHLETIC FIELD COMPLEXES. IS THERE ANOTHER WAY TO OFFER THAT SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS WHILE, UM, THERE COULD BE SOME BUDGET SAVINGS THERE? UM, SKATE PARKS, UM, GOLF COURSES, WE, WE REALLY NEED TO TRANSITION OUR GOLF COURSES TO WHAT WE CALL ENTERPRISE FUNDS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN FIND EFFICIENCIES IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET TO REDUCE THAT RELIANCE. UM, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE GONNA BE SEVERAL THINGS, UM, OPERATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND GOING FORWARD TO TRY TO, UM, ADJUST TO THE REALITY, UM, OF THESE STRUCTURAL CHANGES THAT DIRECTOR JENKINS HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS. IT'S REAL. WE'VE GOTTA COME OUT WITH A PLAN THAT RESORTS THAT PRESERVE SERVICES AND PRESERVES THE, THE SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS CARE ABOUT, BUT LOOKING AT DOING IT IN DIFFERENT WAYS. ? YES, SIR. SO, MR. WOOD, THANK YOU. UM, LOOKING AT THIS LIST, DID WE NOT, I THOUGHT ON THE CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE THAT 3.6 TO 3,600 SAID WE'RE CUTTING THEM BY THAT. I THOUGHT THE BOARD AND ALL RECOMMENDED THAT WE DON'T CUT THE SMALLER AMOUNTS FOR LIKE THE CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE. UM, AND NOW IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BACK ON THIS LIST. UM, AND THE AUDUBON CENTER, I THINK WAS ON, DID, DID WE NOT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION? WASN'T THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND NOT CUT THOSE SMALLER AMOUNTS? I WAS, I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL GETTING A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OR TWO FOLKS, WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE TAPE, BUT I CAN JUST TAKE YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO, I THINK THAT WAS WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM IT IS THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T, I, I DIDN'T NOT SUPPORT CUTTING 'EM A LITTLE BIT, BUT I, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD THAT WE WERE NOT GONNA CUT, UM, THOSE SMALLER ONES BECAUSE IT WAS LITERALLY THAT WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR THEM. AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT CUTTING AN ADDITIONAL $250,000 ON TOP OF WHAT, 400, HOW MUCH IS THE ZOO? $446,000. UM, SO NOW WE'RE ALMOST UP TO 600, $700,000, UM, CUTTING IT FROM OUR ZOO. UM, A MANDATED AMENITY BY CITY CHARTER THAT SAVED US ALMOST $400 MILLION OVER, [02:35:01] UM, THE LIFE OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DALLAS OPERATOR OR THE ZOO OPERATOR. AND WE'RE GONNA PUT AN EXTRA STRESS ON THEM WHILE THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THE NEXT, UM, PHASE OF A, AN EXPANSION THAT IS ALREADY GONNA BE CHALLENGING TO KEEP THE PEOPLE COMING. UM, SO THEY'RE ALREADY GONNA HAVE A FINANCIAL, YOU KNOW, STRUGGLE OVER THE NEXT YEAR, TWO YEARS. UM, AND WE'RE ADDING THAT ON TOP OF THAT. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA, AND LET'S BE HONEST, YOU CAN'T, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MANDATED BY LAW TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE ANIMALS AT A CERTAIN STANDARD. SO THE ONLY PLACE THAT THAT MONEY IS GONNA BE TAKEN FROM IS CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, UM, THAT'S GONNA IMPACT JOBS. I THINK THEY ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST, UM, JOB, UM, PEOPLE ARE, THEY HAVE THE MOST JOBS OR ONE OF DID AND I THINK THE ZOO ARE THE TWO LARGEST EMPLOYERS IN OAK CLIFF. UM, AND IF WE CONTINUE TO CUT, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THAT CUT SOMEWHERE. AND I, MY, I MEAN, I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT DIRECTLY FROM THEM, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE FROM THE ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY AT BARE BONES AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE ANIMALS BY LAW. UM, AND SAY THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THE ELEPHANT TRIBE AND SAVE THOSE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR, IT MIGHT TAKE TWO YEARS FOR THEM TO FIND A LOCATION TO RELOCATE THOSE ANIMALS. SO THAT'S NOT A QUICK AND EASY FIX. SO IT'S GONNA END UP BEING FROM THE EXPERIENCE FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, ABOUT WHERE THEIR, UM, CUTS ARE GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM. SO IT'S GONNA DIRECTLY IMPACT, UH, OUR WORLD CLASS ZOO EXPERIENCE THAT WE WORKED SO HARD TO GET TO. SO IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, WE WORK IT UP, WE BUILD IT UP, AND IT'S GREAT, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA JUST PULL THE RUG FROM UNDERNEATH THEM AND MAKE IT, UM, DIFFICULT. THEY'VE ALREADY PUT IT IN THE BUDGET AND THEIR EYES FOR THAT FIRST CUT. THEY DIDN'T LIKE IT, BUT THEY WORKED THROUGH IT AND THEY DID IT. AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GO BACK AGAIN FOR ANOTHER 250,000. I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY INSANE. WELL, I, I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, OFFER SOME SUPPORT AND APPLAUD THE DEPARTMENT AND YOU DIRECTOR JENKINS, WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, GETTING OUT AHEAD OF NOT JUST THE FISCAL ISSUE WE FACE NOW, BUT THE ONE THAT'S COMING AND IT REALLY SOUNDS, AND, AND, AND IT APPEARS TO BE, AND I'M SURE IT IS THE CASE FROM THE INFORMATION PRESENTED HERE, THAT OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, UM, YOU'VE BEEN DELIVERING MORE WITH LESS. AND, BUT IF WE DON'T SOLVE THIS NOW IN 4 20 30, WE'RE GONNA BE ASKED TO DELIVER SOMETHING FOR NOTHING. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S COMING OUR DIRECTION. SO I, I DO WANT TO FOLLOW UP TO WHAT MR. WOOD WAS JUST SAYING FROM THE CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT PARTNER STIPENDS, BOTH HERE AND INDIVIDUALLY AND AROUND, I, I DON'T RECALL THERE BEING MUCH APPETITE FOR CUTTING PARTNER STIPENDS TO THIS DEGREE, AT LEAST TO FOR THE ZOO SPECIFICALLY, EITHER. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS, ESPECIALLY CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE, I I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THAT AMOUNT. THEY, THEY'RE ALREADY, LIKE THEIR FUNDRAISING CAPABILITIES AS THEY PRESENTED ARE SO PARTICULAR AND DIMINISHED, AND THAT AMOUNT MAKES A VERY LITTLE DIFFERENCE IN THE LARGER TERM FOR US. BUT TO AN ORGANIZATION BOUND IN THE WAYS THAT THEY ARE IN DELIVERING WHAT THEY ARE, THAT THAT, THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT. UM, BUT AGAIN, SIMILAR TO WHAT MR. WOODS SAID, I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL THE SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS, UM, THE, THE BOARD COMING TO SUPPORT THAT IDEA OF CUTTING US. IN FACT, I REMEMBER MR. CREAMY MAKING THE POINT THAT IF IT WAS UP TO HIM, HE WOULD GIVE THEM MORE MONEY, UM, THAN, UH, THAN THEY'RE CURRENTLY RECEIVING. SO IT IS WORTH CHECKING THE TAPE, I SUPPOSE, ON THAT ONE. YEAH, IT'S JUST LIKE SAYING WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDE TODAY, IT JUST MEANS I HAVE TO GO FIND SOME OTHER CUTS. AND, YOU KNOW, I, MY PHILOSOPHY ALWAYS BEEN CLEAR. IF I GOTTA START GETTING INTO SERVICE LEVEL CUTS, THEN I EXPECT OUR PARTNERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS. YEAH, I, AND JUST TO FINISH, LIKE I, I FEEL LIKE WITH FAR ARBORETUM AND THE AUDUBON CENTER, HONESTLY, YOU KNOW, SIX, $12,000 ISN'T GONNA MAKE OR BREAK THEM IN THE SAME WAY. IT WON'T MAKE OR BREAK US, BUT I, I THINK CEDAR RIDGE FOR THREE AND A HALF THOUSAND DOLLARS MEANS A LOT TO 'EM. MR. COS THANK YOU. UM, I AGREE WITH Y'ALL BUBBLE SAID THAT I DON'T WANT TO CUT, YOU KNOW, SMALLER GROUPS AND ULTIMATELY I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYTHING. SO I WANT TO REMIND US AS A BOARD, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THIS, THIS DEPARTMENT TO THRIVE. AND IF WE LOOK AT OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, 2 MILLION, 2.9 MILLION, 2.9 NINES, LIKE WHEN DO WE ACTUALLY SAY, NAH, WE GOOD ON THAT. [02:40:01] AND WE HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT. BECAUSE WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS WE ALL SAY, ALRIGHT, WE CAN DEBATE IT AMONGST ONE ANOTHER AND LEAVE HERE WITH AN UNDERSTANDING AND THEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL. AND THAT 2.9 EASILY BECOME FIVE, RIGHT? AND Y'ALL TELL ME IF I'M WRONG. SO FOR ME, I THINK THE BEST THING IN RESPONSE IS ZERO, LIKE NO CUTS. AND LET'S PLAY IT OUT IN COURT AND SEE WHAT, WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO SAY. AND I GUARANTEE YOU THAT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WE SAW SHOW UP TODAY WILL SHOW UP AND ADVOCATE ON OUR BEHALF. 'CAUSE ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AND THEN GET TO 2030 WITH THIS A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS LOAN? AND IT'S LIKE, WHAT DO WE DO THEN? SO I, WHAT I'M SAYING TO COLLEAGUES WHO SIT AMONGST ME TODAY TO SUPPORT OUR DEPARTMENT AND THE STAFF SUPPORTING JOHN AND GOING BACK, 'CAUSE HE'S SAYING HE HAS ME TO THINK ABOUT MORE SI DON'T THINK WE THERE AT ALL YET. I THINK FOR US RIGHT NOW SUPPORTING HIM AND LETTING 'EM KNOW, LET'S SEND BACK $0 S FOR THIS BUDGET. AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, BUT I JUST WANT US TO KNOW, LIKE IF WE ARE PLAYING WITH THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AND WE'RE TRUSTING THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE THE BEST HEART OR THE THOUGHTS THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS DEPARTMENT, THAT'S NOT THE REALITY. THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. UM, AND IT WILL HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS THINK WE CAN ALWAYS CUT AND PARK AND RENT. WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE THINKING ABOUT THAT CITY. UM, SO PEOPLE ALSO KNOW WE ARE ESSENTIAL, IF NOT ONE OF THE MOST ESSENTIAL DEPARTMENTS. SO I WOULD SAY IT AGAIN, MY STANCE IS $0, UM, TO BE CUT FROM OUR DEPARTMENT UNTIL OTHERWISE. UM, BECAUSE ALSO OF ALL OF THESE REDUCTIONS, $250,000 TO THE ZOO, THAT'S IN MY DISTRICT. AND I HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT AS A, AS THE ZOO BEING IN MY BACKYARD, AS I WOULD HOPE EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS ROOM WOULD DO. WHEN YOU LOOK AT A REDUCTION OF THAT AMOUNT COMING FROM YOUR DISTRICT, YOU GOTTA BE ABLE TO STAND ON IT. BUT I DON'T WANNA JUST STAND ON IT FOR MY DISTRICT INDEPENDENTLY. I WANNA STAND ON THIS FOR THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE. LET SEE, 7 50, 0, 7 50 TOTAL, YOU RIGHT. ADDITIONAL TWO 50. SO YEAH, BUT AGAIN, ZERO MR. JONES. WE STARTED OUT THIS PROCESS THIS YEAR BY IDENTIFYING $4.8 MILLION IN EXPENSE CUTS AND OR REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS. AND YOU HOPED AT THE TIME THAT THAT WAS TO DO BETTER THAN THAT. UH, IT'S NOT WORKED OUT THAT WAY. THE 4.8 HAS GROWN TO 7.8 AND WE HOPE TO GET BY WITH THAT. I AM LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THE 7.8 FOR THIS YEAR AS I AM ABOUT THE PRECEDENT IT STANDS FOR NEXT YEAR. NEXT YEAR PEOPLE WILL BE SAYING, WELL, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY? AND WE'LL POINT TO THE 7.8, JUST LIKE IN THIS YEAR, WE POINTED TO THE LAST FOUR YEARS OF CUTS. I DON'T CARE. AND AS BEST I CAN TELL, IT'S WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY. WE DON'T GET ANY CREDIT FOR THAT. SO I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED THAT IF WE CUT 7.8 MILLION THIS YEAR, WE'LL BE ASKED TO CUT 10 OR 12 MILLION NEXT YEAR AND 12 OR 14 MILLION THE YEAR AFTER THAT BECAUSE WE'RE AN EASY WHIPPING BOY. UH, SO I APPLAUD THE DEPARTMENT'S EFFORTS TO REALIZE THAT THIS ISN'T A ONE YEAR PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO ALTER OUR OPERATIONS TO BE, AS DIRECTOR JENKINS SAYS, LESS DEPENDENT ON THE GENERAL FUND. BUT I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED FOR THE FUTURE AND, UH, WHERE THINGS MAY HEAD BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS VERY EASY FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO PICK ON THE PARK DEPARTMENT, UH, WHICH DOESN'T DIRECTLY ANSWER TO THE CITY MANAGER. UH, AND I'M, I'M WORRIED MORE HIM IN THE FUTURE. MR. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UM, I ALSO WANT TO SUPPORT MR. TOY'S, UH, CONSIDERATION FOR A PARK BOARD RESOLUTION TO PUSH BACK, UH, ON THE CITY MANAGER. UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS WE CAN GO WITH THAT, BUT SOME DRAFTS HAVE BEEN CREATED AND I'M, I'M WILLING TO TAKE THE LEAD ON FINALIZING THAT DRAFT TO PUT FORWARD TO DIRECTOR JENKINS AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR O'CONNOR, UH, FOR THIS BOARD'S CONSIDERATION, UH, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. UM, A [02:45:01] COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO THANK THIS GROUP FOR IS MINIMIZING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IMPACTS. UH, I CAN SEE CLEARLY THAT YOU'VE TAKEN THAT INTO STRONG CONSIDERATION FOR US. THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE BELOW THE LINE, THEY SEEM TO HAVE VANISHED. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN, YOU KNOW, HAVING A STRONG QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE CITY. UM, THERE'S, UM, A QUESTION I'LL HAVE, UH, ABOUT THIS ONE TIME TRANSFER. UM, BUT BEFORE THAT, I SEE A SECTION ON THE LEFT SAYING THE CITY MANAGER PROPOSED 300 K. I WOULD LIKE TO ELIMINATE THAT ALTOGETHER. I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER ANY PROPOSALS SPECIFICALLY FROM THE CITY MANAGER AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, SPECIFICALLY IF THAT'S GONNA COME OUT OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE INVEST IN OUR EMPLOYEES, WE GET HAPPY EMPLOYEES, WE GET HAPPY PARKS. SO I DON'T THINK IF, IF THE INTENT OF 300 CAL 300 K IS TO REDUCE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN OUR STAFF, THAT SHOULD BE ELIMINATED IMMEDIATELY. THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. UM, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO INVEST IN OUR STAFF. MY QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT THE ONE TRANSFER I SEE $2.1 MILLION AND AS I READ WHAT'S LISTED, THIS DOES APPEAR TO HAVE AN IMPACT, POTENTIAL IMPACT TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN IN DETAIL WHAT THIS ONETIME TRANSFER OF $2.1 MILLION, UH, WOULD INCLUDE? YEAH, LET ME, LET ME ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION FIRST ON THE 300 K. UH, NOW I WILL SAY IF THE CITY MANAGER DECIDED THAT, THAT SHE WANTED TO ACROSS THE BOARD, ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS, SAY WE'RE, WE'RE ELIMINATING THESE TYPES OF POSITIONS, SHE DEFINITELY HAS THAT DISCRETION. UH, I I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE BOARD IS AWARE OF THAT. UH, TWO WHEN IT COMES IS 2.1 MILLION, AS WE MENTIONED, WE WE'RE GONNA BE BRIEFING ON MULTI-YEAR FUNDS. SO IN PARTICULAR, UH, UH, AS YOU, AS WE CHARGE THE LIFE FOR, FOR FEES FOR UH, FITNESS ROOMS OR SOMETIMES SOME STAFF TALK CLASSES, UH, I'M JUST GIVING YOU SOME EXAMPLES WHAT GOES INTO THAT PARTICULAR FUND. AND SO, BUT ALSO WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER YEARS IS, LET'S JUST SAY SOMETIME THAT WHEN THE CITY GETS IN TOUGH TIMES, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR HERE. SO WE IN GOOD YEARS AND WE HAVE A REVENUE OBLIGATION TO THE CITY AND LET'S JUST SAY THAT HEY, WE HAD A REVENUE OBLIGATION FROM THE REC CENTER OF $3 MILLION THAT YEAR. OKAY. AND, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ONLY MADE 1.5 THAT YEAR, BUT THEN THAT YEAR THE CITY WAS UNDER BUDGET, OKAY? SO WE WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T REQUIRED TO MAKE THAT REIMBURSEMENT BACK TO THE CITY OF $1.5 MILLION BECAUSE THEY WAS UNDER BUDGET. SO IT ALLOWS US TO BUILD UP THAT FUND SO WHEN THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, THERE IS SOME THINGS WE NEED TO BUY FROM THAT FUND. IT ALLOWED THOSE FUNDS TO BUILD UP. BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENS IN TOUGH YEARS LIKE NOW, NO, THEY'RE LIKE, NO, WE WANT OUR REIMBURSEMENT THAT THAT NEEDS TO COME TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO THAT'S ALL THAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS. I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT, UH, BEFORE WE PUSH BACK ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE. 'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE THAT RIGHT? IN THIS CASE WHERE WE HADN'T MET A REVENUE OBLIGATION TO SAY NO, THAT MONEY NEED TO COME TO JUNE. SO I WANNA BE CLEAR ON THAT. SO, SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE. IT'S KINDA LIKE ONE OF THOSE GOOD YEARS. OKAY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOU MAKE YOUR REVENUES, YOU AIN'T GOTTA REIMBURSE IT. BAD YEARS. I KNOW WE NEED THE MONEY 'CAUSE THERE'S NO SAVINGS, THERE'S NOWHERE. TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ONE TIME TRANSFER, A BUCKET OF $2.1 MILLION, BUT THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. THAT'S WHAT ONE THAT'S, THAT IS, THAT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING. THAT IS. UM, OKAY. UH, THAT, THAT'S IT FOR NOW. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. OKAY, I, SO GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS I WANT TO GET, UH, SPECIFICS ON WHAT DOES IT MEAN, UH, EXACTLY PRIVATIZE, I GUESS THE GOLF COURSE AND , ARE WE SELLING THOSE? ARE WE JUST GIVING IT TO A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION TO RUN IT, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND DO WE HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO I GUESS, UN PRIVATIZE IN THE FUTURE, I GUESS GET IT BACK WITH THE CITY? THAT'S CORRECT. YOU ALWAYS ADD THAT OPTION, BUT IT'S STILL A CONTRACT OR WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE SOME, UH, LANGUAGE IN THERE, UH, THAT ALLOWS US TO GET OUT OF THE CONTRACT. OH, UH, YES. AND SO, SO IT'S NOT, I KNOW PEOPLE USE THE TERM PRIVATIZE, BUT IT'S PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. OKAY. SO IT COULD BE A NON-PROFIT, IT COULD BE FOR PROFIT, BUT THE BOARD WOULD STILL HAVE SOME LEVEL OF CONTROL. OH, THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING. ALSO, UH, AS CEDAR RIDGE RESERVES IN MY DISTRICT, I DEFINITELY DON'T SUPPORT, UH, COOK. THEY ALREADY [02:50:01] HAVE WHAT, 600,000 PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH A YEAR GETTING DONATIONS OF ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR. TRAIL MAINTENANCE BY ITSELF IS GOING TO COST AROUND THAT IF NOT MORE. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A LOT, THAT'LL AFFECT THEM A LOT MORE, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE CAN'T CHARGE FOR PARKING AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF LIKE THAT. SO IT'S HARD TO GENERATE AND I DEFINITELY DON'T SUPPORT THE 750 WITH THE ZOO. I KNOW WE, I THINK THEY SAID LIKE FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE REDUCED THEM LIKE 500,000 A YEAR, 250,000 A YEAR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE TREND'S GONNA KEEP GOING AND GETTING MORE AND MORE, WHICH IS EFFECT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE ANIMALS, THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. LOOKS LIKE IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE WITH THAT. UH, SO I DEFINITELY NOT AS SUPPORTIVE THAT UM, THAT'S WHY I REALLY JUST WANTED TO GET THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PRIVATIZATION OF IT, EVERYTHING. BUT SINCE SHE SAID WE CAN'T GET THIS SOLVED. OKAY. I APPRECIATE MR. MOORE. UH, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? YOU'RE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE ORIGINAL 500 OR YOU'RE NOT IN SUPPORT ON TOP OF THE 250 K? BECAUSE THE, DEFINITELY NOT THE ADDITIONAL, I MEAN I DON'T SUPPORT ANY OF IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CUTS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. IF IT'S A WAY THAT WE CAN, I GUESS REDUCE THE NUMBER OF FUNDING, NOT THE ADDITIONAL TWO 50 IS THE ONE I'M HEARING FROM. YEAH. BUT DEFINITELY DON'T, 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A LARGE SUM MONEY. I KNOW THAT MAKING SOME DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT I KNOW THAT'LL MAKE A LOT OF CUTS US ELSEWHERE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY PROVIDE SO MANY JOBS THAT WILL PUT A LOT OF JOBS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. LET'S SEE. MR. DID I SAY, OH, I GUESS WE'RE STILL FOR SURE. NO, I JUST WANT TO TELL HAD THE FIRST ROUND. OKAY. UM, I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT TALKED ABOUT WITH THE, THE ZOO, THE ADDITIONAL TWO 50 FOR THE ZOO. I DON'T SUPPORT THAT AT ALL. THEY'VE BEEN CONTRIBUTING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. THAT'S JUST, I REALLY THINK THAT'S GONNA BE TOO MUCH FOR THEM. AWESOME. SO, UH, JEREMY, YOU HAD YOUR FIRST STRAW, RIGHT? NO. MR. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. UH, UH, REAL QUICK, JUST THE, GETTING BACK TO THE CUT THE ZOO, DO THEY HAVE AN OPTION TO GO UP ON THE DOOR AT AT THEIR, THEIR PRICE STRUCTURE IF THEY NEED TO AS FAR AS BE PER PERSON? SO THEY CURRENTLY, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THEM TO UTILIZE DYNAMIC PRICE. AND THIS WAS MAYBE A YEAR AGO AGO, COUPLE YEARS AGO. A YEAR AGO. YEAH, A YEAR OR TWO AGO. BUT, UH, THE BOARD ALSO SAID THERE IS A CEILING TO THE DYNAMIC PRICING LEVEL. SO, SO IF THEY WANTED TO TRY TO GO ABOVE THAT CEILING, THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK THROUGH THE BOARD TO SEE THEM. ARE THEY AT THE CEILING NOW? I, I'M SURE THERE, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I CAN CERTAINLY GET CLARIFICATION FOR YOU, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT FOR THEIR PEAK DAYS, THEY PROBABLY ARE GETTING EITHER TO THE CEILING OR CLOSE TO IT. BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY, IF, IF THEY HAVE THE WINDOW, MAYBE THAT'S HOW THEY CAN, BECAUSE I, I KNOW WE HAVE TO CUT SOMETHING. I I I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. UH, TAYLOR SAID, ASKED FOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS UNHEARD OF. BUT WE ALSO HAVE NOT A SOLE CITY COUNCIL THAT'S NOT SO PARK FRIENDLY THESE DAYS. UH, UH, THEY'RE BLAMING EVERYTHING ON THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE HIDDEN MONEY. WE, WE DON'T FIX RESTROOMS AND WE GO ON AND ON AND ON. THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE THAT MIGHT NOT, MIGHT CUT US MORE THAN WE WANT TO. 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT FRIENDLY TO PARKS. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT PARKS MEANS TO A COMMUNITY, UM, OR YOU KNOW, THE ZOO AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. SO I KNOW WE'RE GONNA FACE SOME KIND OF CUTS. I AM 100%, LET'S NOT CUT NOTHING. BUT WE KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE CITY COUNCIL'S NOT GONNA GO FOR IT RIGHT NOW. UM, SO WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, STRATEGIZE THE REVENUE DRIVEN ITEMS. YOU TALKED ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS, UH, RELATIONSHIPS, GOLF COURSES, TENNIS CENTERS, ALL THAT'S AWESOME. BUT THAT'S GONNA TAKE A YEAR TO GENERATE, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE START NEXT YEAR, IT'S GONNA TAKE US A YEAR TO GET THE RFPS OUT AND GET 'EM DONE. BUT IF THE ZOO CAN GO UP A LITTLE BIT MORE, MAYBE THEY COULD HELP DRIVE SOMEONE ALWAYS HAVE THAT MONEY THEY'RE LOSING SOMEWHERE AND FIGURE OUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE'RE FACING CUTS AND IT IS OUR JOB TO TALK TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TO THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, RALLY BEHIND US. BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A COUPLE, WE HAVE A COUPLE UNFRIENDLY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT CAN SWING THE BOAT. SO YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. THAT'S GONNA HURT US. SO WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE TALK TO THEM DIRECTLY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE THE POWER BOARD MEMBER FOR THAT DISTRICT. SO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THAT. SO MEAN CUTS. SO THANK YOU. AND I KNOW I'LL GO TO MR. TOS WITH MR. . CITY COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE. COUPLE OF THEM ARE NOT AND I WISH WE CALLED THEM OUT. AND IF I, IF THIS DOESN'T GO WRONG [02:55:01] IN THE NEXT MEETING, I'M GOING TO CALL THEM , BUT YEAH, NO, THEY NEED TO BE CALLED OUT BECAUSE WHEN THEY GO OUT TO PUBLIC, THEY TALK ABOUT TAKE CREDIT OF F PARK. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE MEETINGS, WHEN IT CAME TO BOND, IT COMES TO THIS, THEY ALWAYS ARE OPPOSING OUR PARKS. SO, SO I THINK WE SHOULD START NAMING THEM UP. SO ANY MR TIMES. YEAH. UM, I, I, I HAD, I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A STANDARD RIGHT NOW. MAYBE YOU KNOW, NEXT PART BOARD BE GONNA BEAT AFTER THAT, BUT I'M SOLID IN MY STANCE. SEND IT BACK. $0 WORTH OF CUTS TO WHOEVER WE HAVE TO SEND THAT BACK TO THE COUNCIL SITTING UNDER OR WHOEVER. AND I WANT US AS A BOARD TO THINK ABOUT THIS. WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE CITY IN EVERY DEMOGRAPHIC, UM, OR EVERY DEPARTMENT, THEN YOU START LOOKING AT WHO ARE THE CORE USERS AND CUSTOMERS OF THAT DEPARTMENT. WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE AGE RANGE, DEMOGRAPHICS AND ALL THOSE THINGS, OUR DEPARTMENT IS THE ONLY ONE WHO OUR CORE USER HAS NO VOTE. AND WHAT HAPPENS AND WHEN I'M WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT, OUR CHILDREN, OUR YOUTH, OUR YOUTH DON'T HAVE A VOTE. WE ARE THE ONES THAT STAND IN THE GAP FOR THEM IN THESE MOMENTS. BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PARK AND RECS, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OH, THAT'S CHILDISH. THOSE ARE CHILDISH THINGS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS REALLY FRUSTRATING TO ME IS OFTEN THOSE FORGET YOU WERE A CHILD AT ONE POINT AND THAT WAS WHEN THE MOST, THAT'S THE MOST IMPRESSIONABLE TIME OF YOUR LIFE. EVERY DOCTOR THAT'S, UH, SAMUEL GRANT THAT DONATED ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, HE WAS A CHILD AT ONE TIME AND SOMEONE DID SOMETHING TO MAKE HIM LOVE HIS PARK SYSTEM. EVEN WE LOOK AT THE HIGHEST RANKING OFFICE OF OUR PRESIDENT, UH, TEDDY ROOSEVELT, WHEN HE PRESERVED ALL THE WILDLIFE THAT HE DID AND ALL THE OPEN PARK SPACES, THAT WAS 'CAUSE OF THE WAYS THAT HE WAS RAISED AS A CHILD. SO FOR US, WE ARE A A A GATEKEEPER. WE ARE THE, THE BUFFER FOR OUR YOUTH. AND A LOT OF THEM WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY, THEIR CORE USERS ARE NOT PEOPLE'S ZERO TO 18. OURS ARE. AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAND UP FOR THEM AND THAT, UM, YEAH, WE STAND ON BUSINESS AND SAY $0. I, I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, I WILL SAY THAT SHE WAS, SHE WAS ALIGNED WITH ME ON HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THE CORE SERVICES. I JUST WANT ALL FAIRNESS TO HER. 'CAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS SHE WAS LIKE, JOHN, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR ALIGNMENT WITH YOU'RE PROPOSING WITH THE BOARD HAD AGREED TO FAR RICHARD CUTS, UH, THAT I DON'T WANT TO GO BELOW THE LINE. WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE PROTECT THOSE, THOSE CORE SERVICES THAT WAS BELOW THE LINES. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I I GOTTA PUT THAT OUT THERE PUBLICLY. ALL FAIRNESS TO HER, OF COURSE THE BOARD, YOU ALL HAVE TO DECIDE, YOU KNOW, AS THE POLICY MAKERS WHAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO. JOHN AND I SUPPORT THAT. SHE HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF BOB, THIS IS A MACRO CITY PROBLEM AND WE ARE PART OF CITY. SO OF COURSE TAYLOR, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I GUESS WE HAVE TO BE PART OF THAT MACRO SYSTEM AND THAT'S WHERE WE DECIDE MR. MCCANN, OKAY, WE'RE GETTING TO THE MACRO SYSTEM AND ALSO BACK ON MY SOAPBOX, IDENTIFYING WHERE THE FISCAL PROBLEM IS COMING FROM, WHICH YOU DID EARLIER. DIRECTOR JENKINS, YOU KNOW, IN THE JUNE 4TH MEETING THAT WE HAD, UM, THERE WAS A SLIDE IN WHICH IT SHOWS THAT FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, 26, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT RECEIVES $619,286 FROM PARK RECREATION DEPARTMENT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BARE MINIMUM PROPOSAL WHERE WE DO NOT CUT OUR PARTNER STIPENDS AND WE CUT THAT MONEY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE SENDING TO THEM. WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO MAKE THAT UP? WELL THAT'S THE MONEY WE, WE PAY THEM. AND SO IT JUST MEAN THAT WE WOULD REDUCE THAT LEVEL OF SECURITY IN THE PARK SYSTEM. WELL, THAT WOULD BE THEIR CHOICE NOT TO PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SECURITY FOR THE PARK. WELL, NO, WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH THEY COULD STILL PROVIDE EVEN IF WE WEREN'T PAYING THAT. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM. I JUST KNOW THAT WE WANTED ADDITIONAL COVERAGE LIKE AT SOME REC CENTERS AND SOME POOS. UH, AND WE PAY FOR THAT ADDITIONAL COVERAGE. I I STILL ARGUE AT THE PARK, THE PARKS ARE PART OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THEY SHOULD BE PROTECTED AS SUCH. AND IF THEY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SERVICE LIKE ANY OTHER PART OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, HOTSPOT, UM, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE LOOKING OUT FOR IT IN THAT, IN THAT SORT OF WAY. AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT WE CAN OFFER MANY THINGS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT [03:00:02] FOR THAT REDUCTION IN FUNDING FROM US. THEY'RE RECEIVING FUNDS ELSEWHERE. UM, THOUGH AGAIN, WE COULD PROVIDE GREAT SERVICE TO THEM ON TOP OF THE INCREASE IN PUBLIC SECURITY THAT WE ARE CREATING THROUGH OUR PROGRAMMING. YEAH, AND, AND I HAVE TO JUST ONE OTHER CLARIFICATION AND, AND I KNOW I PRESENTED Y'ALL THAT OUR BUDGET HAS BEEN, UH, PRETTY MUCH FLATTENED, UH, POSITIONS AND, BUT THE ONLY, THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED OVER TIME FROM THE, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AND THE CITY MANAGER APPROVED AND THE BOARD REQUESTED WAS ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR SECURITY CAMERAS, ADDITIONAL OFFER MONEY FOR MARSHALS, A DIFFERENT ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR IF WE NEED TO HIRE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I PUT THAT OUT THERE AS WELL. SURE. WELL I, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DEFUND THE POLICE AND I'M A FULL SUPPORTER OF THE POLICING OF OUR CITY AND OUR PARKS AND IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND AS A WHOLE OTHER LINE. ITEMS ON THAT SLIDE WERE THE SECURITY CAMERAS, MONITORING REPLACEMENTS, THE DALLAS MARSHALS. AND I DIDN'T BRING ANY OF THOSE UP. I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WE PAID TO OUR PARTNER, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT OF $619,000, UM, LOOKING AT CUTTING TO THE ZOO. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ONLY CAN SUPPORT, WHEREAS THE POLICE CAN CHOOSE TO SUPPORT US IN THE WAYS THAT WE NEED. THERE'S HISTORY THERE FOR WHY THAT MONEY IS GIVEN. IT'S 20 YEARS OLD FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. AND I, AGAIN, I THINK LOOKING AT IT FROM A MACRO LEVEL, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD JUSTIFY THE REDUCTION IN OUR, GIVING THEM THAT MONEY FOR EXTRA POLICING OUR PARKS THAT WE COULD CREATE EXTRA CONNECTION TO OUR COMMUNITY AS AN HONEST BROKER. . 'CAUSE I, IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I CAN SUBMIT BACK AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA REDUCE OUR SECURITY COVERAGE BY, THERE'S NEVER THAT AMOUNT THAT YOU ALL SAY YOU DON'T WANT TO, UH, CHARGE CEDAR CREST OR WHOEVER ELSE AND WE'LL SAY WE'RE RED, WE'RE REDUCING OUR SECURITY COSTS BY $250,000 AND I DON'T WANNA REDUCE THE SECURITY. YOU DON'T THINK THIS CAN BE LOT OFF. YEAH, I UNDERSTAND. AS LONG AS THE POINT'S BEEN MADE. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. UM, AGAIN, I WANNA APPLAUD MR. TOY'S BOLDNESS ON, ON THIS, UH, FOR US AS A STANDALONE BODY TO STEP UP AND EXERCISE, UH, A A RIGHT THAT WE HAVE TO DEFEND BODY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY. IF IT'S TOO BOLD, THIS BODY CAN TELL US IT'S TOO BOLD. IF IT'S TOO ASSERTIVE, TELL US IT'S TOO ASSERTIVE. BUT AT LEAST LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT IS OUR RIGHT AS A PARK BOARD. UM, THAT SAID, UM, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE STIPEND FOR A LITTLE BIT. THIS IS NOT THE HILL I'M WILLING TO DIE ON. I SAID WHAT I SAID AT THE ZOO, I OWN IT. IT'S MINE. IT CAN'T BE TAKEN BACK. I STILL STAND BEHIND IT. WHAT I HATE MORE THAN ANYTHING IS TO TAKE A STIPEND AWAY FROM A PARTNER BECAUSE SOMEONE TELLS US WE HAVE TO TAKE A STIPEND AWAY. IF I WANT TO REDUCE SOMEONE'S STIPEND, I WANNA LOOK AT IT FROM A METRICS PERSPECTIVE. I WANNA LOOK AT THE PERFORMANCE, I WANNA LOOK AT THE REVENUES. I WANT TO BELIEVE IN A SYSTEM WHERE IF WE WIN, WE WIN TOGETHER. THAT MEANS IF YOU'RE GROWING, WEAN YOURSELF OFF OF YOUR DEPENDENCY TO US. IF YOU'RE LOSING, WE'LL BAIL YOU OUT. THAT'S A PARTNERSHIP. OUR BEST PARTNERSHIPS ARE WHEN BOTH SIDES SEE IT AS A PRIVILEGE. THE MOMENT ONE SIDE SEES IT AS AN ENTITLEMENT, THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM. WHEN YOU COME IN HERE AND SAY, YOU CAN'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM ME, YOU'RE ENTITLED, THAT'S NOT GOOD PARTNERSHIPS. IT'S A PRIVILEGE FOR ANY PARTNER TO BE WORKING WITH US. AND IT'S A PRIVILEGE FOR US TO BE WORKING WITH THAT PARTNER. THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO MOVE TOWARDS IN ALL OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS, WE'VE REVIEWED BAD ONES. WE'VE GOT RID OF BATTLES, DON'T MAKE ME NAME NAMES. WE DID IT IN THE LAST 12, 15 MONTHS. THAT TOOK COURAGE. SO IN THE NEXT YEAR, I WANNA SEE COURAGE FROM THIS BODY TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS. LET'S OPTIMIZE THEM. NOT BECAUSE SOMEONE SAYS SAVE SOME MONEY BECAUSE IT'S TRULY WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PARTNERSHIP. THANK YOU . EXCELLENT. UM, DID OVERALL WORK? WHAT OUR PARTNERS, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM AND I BELIEVE THE ZOO IS CONTRACTED AT $15 MILLION A YEAR. AND OKAY. AND ONCE WE ADD UP THESE NEW CUTS THAT'S LIKE ALMOST A $1.1 MILLION LESS, THEN WE'RE PAYING. SO WE'RE GONNA REDUCE THEIR, OUR CONTRACTED AMOUNT WITH OUR PARTNER BY ONE POINT SOME MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE'VE AGREED TO THEM. WHEN THEY TOOK ON THIS OWNERSHIP OR THIS DEAL WITH US, THEY PERFORMED WELL, THEY'VE DONE WELL. UM, BUT SHOULD THEY BE PENALIZED FOR DOING WELL BECAUSE THEY BUILT IT ON THE [03:05:01] STRUCTURE WITH A AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGNED AND WE WENT INTO PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM. SO THEY'RE PROVIDING THAT, UM, AS A SERVICE TO US. SO I, AGAIN, I DON'T SUPPORT THAT. I LOVE THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT, UM, POLICE, THE POLICE ARE THE ONLY ENTITY IN THE CITY THAT, AND I'M NOT ANTI-POLICE AT ALL, BUT THEY'RE THE ONLY GROUP IN THE CITY THAT CAN HAVE UNLIMITED OVERTIME AND CAN HAVE UNLIMITED FUNDS. WE CAN'T CHALLENGE THEIR EXPENSES FOR THE CITY. SO LET'S GET RID OF THE MARSHALL PROGRAM AND LET THE POLICE HANDLE PROBLEMS IN THE PARK AND SECURITY IN THE PARK BECAUSE THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. SO LET THEM DO IT SO THEY CAN COVER THAT EXPENSE THROUGH THEIR BOOKS INSTEAD OF US PAYING FOR IT OUT OF THE RECREATION AND OUT OF THE PARK BUDGET. BECAUSE WE ARE LIMITED AND WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CHARGE OVER, UM, FOR THAT. SO AGAIN, NOT ANTI-POLICE. I WANT THE SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR OUR RESIDENCE, BUT THE POLICE ARE OBLIGATED TO DO THAT. SO LET THEM DO THAT. UM, THANK MR. LOOK I DO WANNA SAY RESPOND TO THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST AGAIN IS OUR, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE ABOUT HEY, THIS DPD JUST HANDLE ALL THE SECURITY PARTS. YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY WE GOT IN THIS SITUATION OVER THE YEARS, 'CAUSE REMEMBER WE GOT RID OF PARK POLICE IN IN THE LATE NINETIES. AND SO DPD WAS GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COVERING ALL OUR, WHEN NOW WE GOT 410 PARTS BACK THEN, I'M PRETTY SURE WE ONLY HIT LIKE 250 PARKS. AND WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE THEY GOT PULLED IN DIFFERENT DIRECTION DPD BECAUSE THERE WAS A GREATER NEED FOR THEM BEING TO PATROL THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS DPD ENDED UP BECOMING JUST A RESPONSE TO US LIKE, HEY, WE GOT A DISPUTE WITH SOMEONE DISPUTING OVER IF THEY GOT A RESERVATION OR NOT. IF THEY SHOULD BE ON THE ATHLETIC FIELD, THEY SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PICNIC AND SO, OR HEY, JUST FROM EMERGENCY STANDPOINT. SO THEY WOULD COME IN AND THEN APPREHEND, I'M JUST TELLING YOU. AND SO THEN THE COURT, THEN IT BECAME WHERE WE AS STAFF END UP BEING THE FOLKS CALLED BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE CITIZENS TO GO RESOLVE ISSUES. AND THEN FINALLY WE SAID, NO, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF SECURITY ON THE PARKS AND IT NEEDS TO BE THREE LEVELS. IT NEEDS TO BE THE RANGERS WHO CAN GET ON SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY WHEN THERE'S A QUICK LITTLE DISPUTE AND EDUCATE PEOPLE. AND IT WAS LIKE, WE NEED THE MARSHALS SO THEY CAN COME IN AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY'RE PEACE OFFICERS. THEY CAN MAKE ARRESTS IF THEY NEED TO. THEY HELP PROTECT OUR RANGERS AND THEY GET TO KNOW OUR PATRONS. BUT WE STILL NEED THE DPD TO BE THAT THIRD LEVEL. I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU, IF YOU GET RID OF THE MARSHALS, I PROMISE YOU YOU'RE GONNA BE IN THE SAME SITUATION AGAIN THE NEXT PARK BOARD, OKAY? AND THE NEXT DIRECTOR IS GONNA BE FACED WITH ONCE AGAIN FINDING MONEY AGAIN AND GOING BACK TO THE COUNCIL AGAIN, REPEATING THIS CYCLE. 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. NO COUNCIL MEMBERS, BOARD MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS DON'T GET THE SAME CALLS THEY USED TO GET BEFORE WE BEFORE, UH, THAT WE USED TO GET BEFORE WE HIT THE MARSHALS AND THE RANCHERS REMEMBER THOSE? YEAH, I DO TOO. AND PEOPLE FEEL A LOT MORE SAFER ON OUR PARKS NOW WITH THIS THREE LEVEL APPROACH. BUT I DO AGREE WE NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATION WITH DPD ON. IS THERE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN COLLABORATE, WHERE YOU ALL CAN HAVE A PRESENCE MORE ON OUR PARKS, BUT ARE THOSE HAVING TO PAY YOU? CAN WE COLLABORATE? WHICH WE ALREADY HAD A MEETING WITH DPD TWO WEEKS AGO, THREE WEEKS AGO WHERE WE SAID, LOOK, WE GOT THESE PROGRAMS AND WE HAVE TO PAY YOUR OFFICERS. IS THERE A WAY Y'ALL CAN COLLABORATE WITH US SO WE CAN HELP REDUCE OUR COSTS? I GOT A MEETING WITH CHIEF CUOMO, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S SEPTEMBER THE FIRST, SEPTEMBER THE FIRST. AND I JUST TALKED TO HIM AGAIN ON TUESDAY NIGHT. I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU CONVERSATIONS ARE TAKING PLACE AND I GET WHERE Y'ALL COMING FROM. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT GET RID OF MARSHALLS AND RANGERS, I THINK THAT'D BE A HUGE MISTAKE FOR THIS PARK SYSTEM. ONE, ONE LAST LITTLE COMMENT CAN WEISE WHEN WE EMPLOY THEM AFTER HOURS, UM, SPECIFICALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY ALWAYS PARK ON THE PARK. WE NEED TO REDUCE AND REMIND THEM THAT FOLKS ARE FOR PEOPLE NOT FOR VEHICLES. UM, THEY CAN PARK IN THE PARKING LOT A CAR LENGTH AWAY INSTEAD [03:10:01] OF PARKING UNDER THE TREE FOR THEIR SHADE. SO WE NEED TO STOP LETTING OUR POLICE PARK ON OUR PARTS WHEN THEY'RE DOING AFTER HOURS. YEAH, WE TALKING ABOUT ANYWAY, SO, OKAY, LET'S GO MS. HOGE, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS. UM, FIRST I DON'T LOVE ANY BUDGET CUTS SAY THAT, BUT WHERE IS THIS $2.1 BILLION TRANSFER COMING FROM? YES, I THINK I KNOW THAT YEAH, IT'S COMING FROM MULTI-YEAR FUND THAT THAT SET UP IS IN PARTICULAR, I THINK FUND WHAT, 2 81 OR SOMETHING? 0 4 1 0 4 1. AND BASICALLY IN THAT FUND THERE'S A BALANCE OF $3.1 MILLION IN THAT FUND. BUT LIKE I SAID, WHEN HAD THAT FUND GOT THIS MONEY, IT IS THROUGH WHAT WE CHARGE, LIKE FOR FITNESS ROOM, WE KEEP 25% OF THE REVENUES BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE MONEY TO REPLACE FITNESS EQUIPMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS. WE HAVE LIKE OUR, I THINK OUR OUTDOOR, OUTDOOR CONTRACT FEE. IS THAT IN THAT FUND? PATRICK? YES SIR. YEAH. SO OUTDOOR. BUT WE HAD THESE PEOPLE LIKE GLADIATORS AND THEY DO AEROBICS ON OUR PARK. SO WE WANTED TO, 'CAUSE IN THE PAST WHAT IT HAPPENED IS THESE FOLKS ARE LIKE, HEY, Y'ALL AIN'T MAKING NO IMPROVEMENTS BUT WE'RE BRINGING IN THIS MONEY. PEOPLE DON'T WANNA BE OUT HERE UNLESS THEY HAVE FLIGHTS AND WE GOTTA REPLACE THE GRASS AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE SAID, WELL WE GOTTA SET UP A FUND SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO GET THE REVENUES AND MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS AS NEEDED BECAUSE THE GENERAL FUND IS NOT GONNA SUPPORT THAT. AND THEN IN THE PAST, I THINK WE USED TO BE IN THERE WHEN WE USED TO CHARGE FOR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN WE COULD HIRE OUR OWN STAFF TO EXPAND THE PROGRAM SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO EVERY YEAR THROUGH A BUDGET ENHANCEMENT SAYING, HEY, WE NEED 25 STAFF TO, TO EXPAND THIS AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM. WE LIKE, WE CHARGE THE FEE, WE KEEP IT AND THEN WE CAN EXPAND THE PROGRAM AS NEEDED. AND NOW, 'CAUSE WE UNDERTOOK OVER THE RECREATION CENTERS AS OF JANUARY ONE, WE'RE NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS, HVAC REPLACEMENT, AND ONCE AGAIN, THAT MONEY WAS GONNA BE USED FROM THAT FUND SO THAT WHEN A HVAC GOES OUT AND I GET THE CALL FROM YOU, YOU ALL AND COUNCIL AND CITIZEN SAYING WE NEED SOME AIR, I HAVE SOME, AT LEAST SOME EMERGENCY REPLACEMENT FUND. SO WE'RE JUST OKAY. SO THAT, THAT'LL LEAVE US WITH ABOUT TWO OR $1 MILLION IN THAT. AND IS THAT PROJECTED TO BE ENOUGH TO COVER ANYTHING? I MEAN THAT'S A HARD QUESTION. LIKE YEAH, THAT'S WHY Y'ALL SAW ME SAID THAT. YEAH. YEAH. THAT ONE MEETING. SO YEAH, WE ONCE AGAIN, WE STILL GOTTA PAY REPLACEMENT OF FITNESS ROOM. ALL I SAID IS I SAID LOOK, WE'LL JUST DELAY REPLACING SOME FITNESS EQUIPMENT. LET THE FUND BUILD BACK UP 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO BUILD UP. 'CAUSE THAT FITNESS EQUIPMENT, EVERY TIME YOU REPLACE IT AT A REC CENTER RUNS ABOUT, UH, 50 TO ABOUT $70,000 A POP BECAUSE THAT I'VE BEEN IN THERE EIGHT YEARS AND THAT'S WHY WE LET IT BUILD UP HAPPEN IS PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH, YOU GOT $3 MILLION? YEAH, WE HAD $3 MILLION OVER THERE. 'CAUSE IF I GET A HVAC THAT COST ME $300,000 TO REPLACE, WELL, I GOTTA REPLACE FITNESS EQUIPMENT THAT COSTS ME 60 TO $80,000. I CAN'T GO TO THE GENERAL FUND AND GET THAT MONEY. RIGHT. AND I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT MY NOTES. I THINK THAT WHERE SOME OF THE CONFUSION AS TO THE CEDAR PARK PRESERVE AND AUDUBON NUMBER ARE COMING FROM IS THE WAY IT WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME IS WE SAID THE PROPOSAL WAS 5% AND WE SAID WE WANTED TO KEEP IT AT THE 3%. I THINK MOST OF US WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE JUST NOT REDUCING THE, AND MEGAN SPEAK FOR TOO MANY PEOPLE. I THINK THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO REDUCE CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE AT ALL, NOR TRINITY RIVER, AON. UM, BUT THE REST OF 'EM WOULD STAY AT THE 3%. IS THERE A WAY, AND I HATE, I DON'T, I DON'T LOVE ANY OF THIS, SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, LIKE THE WORDS EVEN COME OUTTA MY MOUTH. UM, BUT FOR THE TWO 50 STIPEND TO COME FROM THAT FUND THAT WE HAVE THE MULTI-YEAR FUND INSTEAD, I DON'T LOVE IT, BUT LIKE I ALSO, IT'S A LOT BIG CUT TO A ZOO IN ONE YEAR. I DON'T KNOW. I'M ASKING, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN FEASIBLE. GOOD. IT, IT WOULD JUST, ONCE AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANNA, I, I DON'T WANNA, LIKE, I HATE TO SAY I'M JUST, IT'S A ONE TIME FOR THE PERSON SET. AND THEN HOW DOES, HOW QUICKLY DOES THAT FUND ACCUMULATE? LIKE WHAT'S OUR AVERAGE CONTRIBUTION TO THAT FUND EVERY YEAR? SOMETHING LIKE PER YEAR, ABOUT THREE 20. AND LIKE I SAID, I ALSO HAD TO USE THAT FUND THAT, LIKE FOR G FLOORS, IT GOTTA BE REPLACED. WE, WE, I'M JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE KNEW WE COULDN'T GO TO THE GENERAL FUND 30 OR 40 YEARS AGO. WE STARTED SETTING UP THESE FUNDS BECAUSE PEOPLE, THEY'RE LIKE, OUR GM FLOOR IS OUT. I CAN'T WAIT TILL THE NEXT BOND PROGRAM TO REPLACE THAT. MM-HMM . SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CHANCE WE TAKE. NOW IF I DEPLETE THOSE FUNDS SO LOW, WHEN [03:15:01] I GET A FAILED GM FLOOR WHERE I GET A, SOMETHING THAT FAILS IN THE REC CENTER, I'M GONNA HA HAVE TO EITHER OVERRUN MY BUDGET OR I'M GONNA HAVE TO WAIT ON A BOND PROGRAM. I DON'T EVEN LOVE REDUCING THAT FUND AT ALL. I THINK THAT WAS SMART PLANNING ON OUR BEHALF. THAT'S JUST GONNA END UP, LIKE MR. TWIN SAYS, IT'S GONNA END UP AFFECTING OUR YOUTH. RIGHT? LIKE OUR YOUTH ARE THE ONES THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT FROM THOSE RESOURCES. AND IF THEY NEED SOMEWHERE TO WORK OUT OR A GYM WITH A FLOOR THAT'S NOT, OR AN AC UNIT WHEN IT'S 105 DEGREES OUTSIDE AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO. I HATE THAT, THAT I DON'T LOVE THAT. UM, WHAT IS THE AMOUNT, HAVE THIS IN MY NOTES ANYWHERE AND I CAN'T FIND IT. WHAT IS THE AMOUNT OF THE STIPEND LEFT TO THE ZOO AFTER WE TAKE OUT THE PROPOSED 696 OR STIPEND? IT'S ABOUT 14.9. SO LESS ROUND NUMBERS. 700,000. SO THEY'LL STILL BE GETTING ABOUT 14.12. YEAH. 14.2. WELL, I DO AGREE IF WE WANNA DO IT ONE TIME FOR THIS YEAR, NO, ON THE TWO 50 AND THEN WE JUST, IT JUST GIVES US MORE TIME TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL OTHER REVENUES IN THIS DEPARTMENT. I HAVE NOTHING PROBLEM. I DON'T LOVE THAT. UM, MY OTHER QUESTION, , UM, AND, AND I'M NOT PROPOSING THAT, THAT WAS JUST MY QUESTION. I JUST WANNA KNOW LIKE HOW WE HAD THE AUTHORITY AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION I JUST FORGOT. SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK. SORRY, WHEN IT COMES BACK TO ME. SO, UH, MR. FINCA, UM, THANK YOU. SO I, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. LET'S SEE. TWO, TWO, WELL IS IF, DO WE PAY, UM, OFF-DUTY POLICE FOR EVENT COVERAGE, UH, LIKE, UM, STORES AND RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS? DO, UH, DOES THE STATE, FAR STATE, STATE FAIR OF TEXAS PAY POLICEMEN, UH, PAY OFF-DUTY POLICEMEN TO BE THERE? OR HOW DOES THAT GET COVERED? YEAH, THE ANSWER IS YES. AND, AND, AND JUST TO BE ON, YOU MENTIONED STATE FAIR, THAT IS ONE OF THEIR BIGGEST EXPENSE DRIVERS IN THERE. UH, THAT THEY WENT FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, EIGHT YEARS AGO PAYING LIKE, WHAT, 2 MILLION TO NOW? I THINK IT'S ALMOST $8 MILLION. THEY'RE PAYING IN SECURITY EXPENSES NOW. YEAH. WELL I UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS THE HISTORY OF THE PARK POLICE. THAT THE PARK POLICE STARTED AT THE STATE FAIR. OKAY. BUT MY, SO, SO WE DO PAY THAT. SO IS THAT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR IS, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT TWO, TWO BUCKETS HERE? WHERE DO WE TWO BUCKETS MR. SO WE PAY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE RESULT IF WE DID NOT PAY AN ADDITIONAL? SO LET'S TAKE FOR EXAMPLE, OUR, OUR AQUATICS FACILITIES. 'CAUSE WE DO GET DISRUPTIONS THAT HAPPEN AT THE QUA FACILITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE FIRST START IN THE, IN THE SUMMER UHHUH AND WHEN IT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST, OUR STAFF HAS BEEN ASSAULTED, UH, OTHER PATRONS MAY HAVE BEEN ASSAULTED AND HAVING THE DPD PRESENCE THERE WHERE THEY'RE KIND OF ROVING HAS DEFINITELY REDUCED THAT. UH, BUT WE'RE PAYING WE'RE, BUT ARE WE PAYING THE, UM, OFF-DUTY POLICEMEN TO BE THERE OR YES. IN ADDITION? NO, WE'RE PAYING THAT. YES. WE'RE, WE'RE PAYING BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE THERE AT CERTAIN TIMES BECAUSE WE KNOW CERTAIN TIMES OF THOSE ROBBERY. RIGHT. SO I, SO I UNDERSTAND THE PAYING OFF-DUTY POLICEMEN TO BE THERE, BUT WHAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IS THE FUNDS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT WHAT WE PAY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, OUT OF THE BUDGET SEPARATE FROM OFF-DUTY POLICEMEN. OH, IT COMES OUTTA THAT SAME BUCKET THAT'S 600 THAT, UH, UH, S**T GONE BRAIN DEAD, , MCGAIN, MR. MCGAIN MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THAT'S WHERE THAT BUCKET COMES FROM. OH, SO THAT BUCKET IS JUST WHAT WE'RE PAYING OFF-DUTY POLICEMEN TO BE PRESENT AT EVENTS? YEAH, EITHER OFF-DUTY OR, OR, OR, OR ON DUTY WHERE WE HAVE TO REIMBURSE THEM. OKAY. SO IF WE DID NOT PAY THE, THAT POLICE THAT FEE, THEN THEY WOULDN'T, THEY, THEY MIGHT NOT BE THERE. NOT WHEN WE WANT THEM TO BE AT, BE THERE AT SPECIFIC TIMES. OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE I THOUGHT, I MEAN, EVERYTHING HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND WE NEED TO THINK THESE THINGS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE CAN'T DO, OBVIOUSLY WE, WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, UM, THAT EVEN NO MATTER HOW GOOD THINGS ARE AND HOW DESIRABLE THEY ARE, UH, SOMETIMES THERE'S JUST NOT RESOURCES TO DO IT AND WE HAVE TO BE, UM, FIGURE OUT THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUR RESOURCES IN THE BEST PLACE TO SERVE THE MOST PEOPLE. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BECAUSE, UH, MR. CONNOR. THANK YOU MR. AGGARWAL. UM, THERE'S A DOCUMENT, I GUESS IT'S IN THE ROOM. WAS THAT SENT TO US BEFORE THE MEETING? YES, THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET DOCUMENT WAS SENT TO US BEFORE THE MEETING. NO, NOT THIS [03:20:01] ONE. EITHER ONE. WAS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? WHICH ONE? I'M SORRY, MR. CON, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. THERE'S A DOCUMENT ON PEOPLE'S DESKS THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE WERE SENT TO US BEFORE THE MEETING, AND I'M ASKING WHY. OH, BECAUSE, UH, LAST NIGHT I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I ASKED THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THEY PUT THIS INFORMATION FOR ME THIS MORNING TO MAKE SURE HAPPY. WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF, SO OUR, OUR, UM, OUR BUDGET IS $119 MILLION, BUT REALLY OUR, OUR DISCRETIONARY, JOHN, AS YOU SAID EARLIER IN THE MEETING IS $89 MILLION. THE CUT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF OUR BUDGET THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? ABOUT 10%, 10% OFF OFF OF THE 89 MILLION IF THAT'S, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TOUCH. GOT IT. OKAY. UM, WHAT IS THE, UH, PERCENTAGE OF THE ZOO'S BUDGET IS $49 MILLION. WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF $700,000 INTO 49 MILLION BUCKS? THEY, THEY'RE 14. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THEIR OVERALL BUDGET? OVERALL BUDGET, OVERALL BUDGET'S. 49. SO THAT'S WHAT, 1%? I MEAN, UH, THAT'S ABOUT 1.3%. I'M JUST POINTING OUT, IT'S NOT APPLES TO APPLES. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT, UM, NOBODY WANTS TO CUT FROM THE ZOO. THE ZOO MAKES UP 16% OF OUR BUDGET. AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PULLING MONEY AWAY FROM, FROM THESE FUNDS THAT JOHN HAS, WE'RE JUST HAVING A SHELL GAME. WE'RE PULLING MONEY AWAY AND HOPING, CROSSING OUR FINGERS THAT WE DON'T HAVE AN HVAC SYSTEM GO OUT OR WE DON'T HAVE A BASKETBALL COURT, WE HAVE TO REPAIR, OR GOD FORBID WE HAVE SOME KIND OF NATURAL DISASTERS AND WE'VE GOTTA HURRY UP AND GET THINGS DONE. AND I THINK DANIEL WOOD MADE GREAT POINTS EARLIER AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT HOW SUCCESSFUL THE ZOO HAS BEEN, I COMPLETELY AGREE. THE ZOO HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL. THEIR, THEIR REVENUE HAS INCREASED 154 OR 157% OVER THE LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS. UM, WHILE OUR CONTRIBUTION HAS STAYED RELATIVELY THE SAME IN TERMS OF ABSOLUTE DOLLARS, UH, THAT THAT SEEMS NOT CORRECT TO ME. AS YOU BECOME MORE FINANCIALLY VIABLE, YOU SHOULD BE WEANING OFF OF THE AMOUNT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE CONSUMING. SO I, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD CUT FROM, FROM THE ZOO. UM, AND I AGREE WITH MR. GREBE. I DON'T LIKE THIS AND SALLY, I DON'T, I DON'T LIKE HAVING TO CUT. UM, I THINK THIS IS A BAD POSITION WE'RE IN, BUT AS I SAID BEFORE, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO SAY IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ABSORB A 10% REDUCTION, UH, OUR, UH, OUR PARTNERS SHOULD HAVE TO DO THE SAME. THANK YOU MR. . AND, UH, MS. LAUNCH. YOU GOT SECOND. I REMEMBERED MY QUESTION. YOU WROTE IT DOWN. UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GO BACK AND WE SAY NO THANK YOU TO THIS SECOND ROUND OF CUTS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR? YEAH. SO WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS? YEAH, SO, BECAUSE REMEMBER, THIS WOULD BE THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL COUNCIL. OKAY. SO SHE COULD, SHE COULD CHOOSE TO PICK HER OWN RECOMMENDATION FAR AS CUTS FOR THE PARK DEPARTMENT AND THEN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL. OR SHE COULD, SHE COULD JUST TAKE WHAT WE HAVE AND SHE COULD LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE FAIL TWO OR $2 MILLION SHORT ON HER REQUEST. UM, AND THEN DO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS OF WHAT THE IMPACT OR DO WE HAVE ANY PROJECTIONS FROM LIKE THE DALLAS ZOO OF IF THEY ARE CUT THE 600, REMEMBER THE NUMBER, THE 600,600 AND YEAH. MATH, WHATEVER IT IS, UM, THAT AMOUNT. WHAT'S THAT IMPACT TO THEM? HAVE THEY GIVEN US A PROJECTION OF, OR DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION? UH, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE OFFICIALLY GAVE US THE INFORMATION. SAY WHAT'S THE IMPACT. I DO RECALL YOU ALL AT THE LAST MEETING, I THOUGHT THE BOARD DID ASK TO ZOO THE, I THOUGHT ASKED THEM WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT. I THOUGHT THEY KIND OF TALKED IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, THAT IT CONTEMPLATED SOME THINGS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T OFFICIALLY SAID THAT THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE STILL KIND OF TALKING ABOUT RECOMMENDED BUDGETS AS OPPOSED TO OFFICIAL BUDGETS. YEAH. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS MORE OF A, OH, WE'RE GOING WITHOUT THAT MONEY, THIS ESSENTIAL SERVICE GOES AWAY. OR IF IT'S WE JUST SLOW DOWN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT THAT WE'RE PROJECTED A FEW, LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING A COUPLE MONTHS. I THINK THEY DID IN GENERAL TALK ABOUT JUST WHAT YOU JUST SAID, MS. ARCH, THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER PROGRAMS THEY MAY HAVE TO REDUCE. UH, THEY MAY BE THAT DELAY SOME [03:25:01] CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE. MR. DRAWING, YOU'LL FIND OUT, UH, DOUBLING DOWN ON WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. UM, ZERO CUTS YEARS AGO, UM, REFERENCED SOMETHING THAT TOOK PLACE JUST TO CORRECT. WE SPOKE ABOUT IT, WE DID DO A MEMO WHERE EVERYONE SIGNED IT AND SAID THAT THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVED IN AS A BOARD. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE THERE TO SOME OF THE INNOVATIVE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED. UM, I AGREE. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE TIME AND DISCUSSED, BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN, UM, IN ANY NEGOTIATION WHERE I DIDN'T HAVE A COUNTER TO WHAT WAS BEING SENT TO ME. AND I HOPE ANYONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM DOESN'T NEGOTIATE THAT WAY, SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE A COUNTER. UM, AND THAT'S IN ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING. SO FOR ME, MY COUNTER IS AGGRESSIVE AND I'M GONNA STAND ON THAT. UM, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO JUST GO BACK TO WHAT'S IN MY DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE ZOO. UM, I, THAT IS A HUGE CUT. I GET THE PERCENTAGES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN COMPARISON TO THE TOTAL BUDGET. BUT GIVEN WHAT WE HAVE TO COME AT THE ZOO WITH NEW AMENITIES AND THEN ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE PROVIDE RIGHT NOW AT THE ZOO, ANYTHING THAT'S CUT THAT IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE SERVICES, WHETHER IT'S THE DOLLAR DAYS OR UM, THE FIELD TRIPS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, THE ZOO HAS BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING TO THE COMMUNITY. EVEN THE JOBS, UM, FOR OUR YOUTH THAT ARE THERE. THE ZOO HAS BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING TO MY COMMUNITY, TO OUR COMMUNITY IN OAK CLIFF. AND, UM, I JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO MY DISTRICT IN THAT WAY, UM, CURRENTLY, BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY, UM, THE ZOO IS AN AMENITY THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO SEE MY COMMUNITY FROM ALL OVER THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND IT IS HARD TO EXPLAIN WHAT TAKES PLACE IN SOUTH OAK CLIFF WITHOUT SEEING IT GOOD AND THE BAD. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. IF Y'ALL HAVEN'T READ XAVIER HENDERSON'S ARTICLE IN THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS IS EDITORIAL ABOUT WHY WE SHOULDN'T CUT THE ZEUS, UM, UM, FUNDING. THANK YOU MR. GOINS. MR. KAREEM. YOU FINE, MR. PRESIDENT, FINAL ROUND. HERE WE GO. UM, IF WE DON'T COME TO CONSENSUS AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING BOLD AND ASSERTIVE, AS MR. TOIN SAID EVEN AGGRESSIVE, THAT THAT CAN CERTAINLY BE MY MIDDLE NAME AS WELL. UM, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER TAKING A LOAN FROM OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION AND DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. I'VE DONE 'EM, THIS IS SOMETHING I KNOW A LOT ABOUT, PROBABLY MORE THAN ANY CITIZEN IN DALLAS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT. UM, SECTION 2 12 2 0 1 OF HOUSE BILL 1526 ACTUALLY ALLOWS THESE FUNDS TO BE USED FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE GONNA IMPACT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE ARE GONNA BE BECAUSE WE CANNOT REPAIR AND MAINTAIN THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BREAK IN THE NEXT YEAR. IF WE CAN'T COME TO CONSENSUS AND DO SOMETHING BOLD AND AGGRESSIVE, WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER TAKING A MILLION OR 2 MILLION OUT OF THAT FUND. AND I HATE DOING THAT. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT EITHER, BECAUSE WHY? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EVEN CHARGING THE MAXIMUM TO FILL THESE FUNDS BACK UP. I KNOW, AND IF YOU'VE EVER LISTENED TO ME, YOU KNOW THAT I'M PROBABLY NOT LIKE THE SUPER FRIENDLIEST PERSON TO LIKE DEVELOPERS IN THIS CITY, BUT THEY'RE NOT PAYING THE MAXIMUM OF WHAT THEY COULD BE PAYING INTO THIS FUND. WE NEED TO GO TO OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ASK THEM WHY, WHY ARE WE NOT CHARGING THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES TO THESE DEVELOPERS AS ALLOWED BY HOUSE BILL 1526? IT WAS PASSED IN 2023. AIN'T NO SINGLE DEVELOPER RUNNING AWAY FROM US BECAUSE OUR PARKLAND DEVELOPMENT FEES ARE TOO HIGH. WE NEED TO ASK OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR SUPPORT TO BRING THIS BACK ON AN AGENDA AND CONSIDER GOING TO THE MAXIMUM SO WE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SUSTAINABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. . AND MR. WOOD, YOU GET THE AND, UH, I CAN APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT OUR ZOO IS DOING GOOD. WHEN I MOVED HERE 28 YEARS AGO, UM, THE DALLAS ZOO WAS NOT, UH, IN THE SAME CONDITION. AND DALLAS, UM, THE CITY OF DALLAS OPERATED, IT'S A CITY MANDATED BY THE CHARTER, UH, UM, AMENITY FOR THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. UM, AND TODAY I CAN SAY THAT IT'S WORLD RENOWNED AND IT'S WORLD CLASS AND WE HAVE A GREAT ZOO. THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ZOO ORGANIZATION THAT IS OPERATING, IT HAS SAVED THE CITY OVER $400 MILLION OVER THE TIME OF THEM OPERATING THE ZOO. AND WE'RE TRYING TO NICKEL AND DIME [03:30:01] THEM AS SOME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, IT'S JUST A SMALL CUT, BUT A MILLION DOLLARS. OKAY, WE GIVE $15 MILLION INSTEAD OF US COSTING US $400 MILLION OVER THE LAST 15 OR 10 OR 15 YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING THEM 15 MILLION INSTEAD OF 150 MILLION THAT IT MIGHT COST US TO ACTUALLY RUN THE ZOO OURSELVES. AND WE WERE MEDIOCRE. WE WERE DOING IT VERY POORLY AT THE, AT THE VERY BEST. WE CAN NO LONGER SAY THAT WE HAVE A MEDIOCRE ZOO. WE HAVE A GREAT ZOO AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOOD OPERATOR THAT IS ACTUALLY PUTTING THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS. SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING A LOT OF WORK ON TOP OF, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE BIT THAT THEY'RE GETTING FROM US. SO YES, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT IN THE REALM OF MAKING IT BETTER OR A MANDATED AMENITY FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND THEY ARE VERY ACCOMMODATING, AS MR. TOIN SAID TO THE ENTIRE CITY. UM, THE COUNCIL DAYS, THE SCHOOL TRIPS, THE ANYTIME YOU CALL THEM, THEY'RE VERY ACCOMMODATING. SO IT IS, IT'S HONESTLY, IT'S PRETTY SAD WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO CUT SOMETHING THAT IS SO AFFORDABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY TO DO. THANK YOU, MR. WOOD AND MR. CONNOR . YEAH, I I I THINK MR. WOOD MAKES GREAT POINTS. AGAIN, I, THE, THE, THE ZOO IS PART OF THE, THE CHARTER AND IT, IT, WE SHOULD HAVE THE ZOO AND THAT'S GREAT POINTS. THEY ARE GREAT. UM, UH, WHERE ARE WE, UM, MR. JENKINS AND RYAN WITH RENEGOTIATING? BECAUSE I, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT, THE CONTRACT. WELL, THE CONTRACT'S NOT A GREAT CONTRACT, SO WHERE ARE WE WITH BRINGING THE CONTRACT TO BE MORE MODERN, UM, AND HAVING A VARIABLE FEE LIKE OUR SISTER CITIES RATHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? YEAH, SO MR. CONICA COMMENT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, MY APPROACH TO THE ZOO IS, UH, SPEAK WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THIS THE LAST TIME THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE IN THIS FINANCIAL SITUATION WITH THE CITY AND I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER GONNA STOP. IT MAY BE THE ZOO THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE THE ZOO NEXT YEAR. I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU THAT'S WHAT I SEE. HOWEVER, I THINK WE NEED TO A, A APPROACH THE ZOO MORE STRATEGICALLY ABOUT RESTRUCTURING THE CONTRACT SO THAT WE KNOW THEY HAVE SOME GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE ZOO THAT WE KNOW THEY BRINGING ON THE WHOLE NEW, UH, SAFARI FOR SURE. ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT'S GONNA HELP TO GENERATE ATTENDANCE AND ADDITIONAL REVENUES. IT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE CITY. AND CAN WE, THE ZOO AND THE PARK DEPARTMENT, CAN WE COME TO AN AGREEMENT STRATEGICALLY TO REDUCE THEIR STIPEND OVER TIME AND WHAT SHOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? AND I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD JUST BE A STRAIGHT PERCENT, OKAY. IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE FOR, FOR, FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE ZOO. TO ME, THAT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WE'RE IN A TOUGH BUDGET SITUATION THIS YEAR. I JUST WANT TO KNOW AFTER THIS YEAR, CAN WE HAVE A PAUSE SO THAT WE CAN STRATEGICALLY MAKE SURE WE COME UP WORKING WITH THE ZOO THAT IT MAKES SENSE FOR BOTH TO REDUCE YOUR SPIKE. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. YEAH, I I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S VERY SMART AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT. AS WE TALKED ABOUT AS I WAS WALKING OUTTA THE ROOM, AS WE SAID, JUST TO ROUND THIS BACK OUT, JACK IRELAND TALKED ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OBLIGATION WE'RE GONNA HAVE FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, THAT MONEY'S GONNA HAVE TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN. AND I THINK WE GET IN FRONT OF THAT, THAT, UH, ISSUE, UH, WITH THE ZOO BY HAVING THOSE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS NOW. AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOBODY LIKES BUDGET CUTS, BUT IF WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CUT 10% OF OUR BUDGET AND TO THE, TO THE COMMENTS BEFORE THE FEAR BAITING BEFORE ABOUT WE CAN'T CUT FROM A PARTNER, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CUT 10%, WE'RE ALL WE'RE ASKING IS TO CUT 1.7%. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT ALL WE'RE ASKING, BUT WE'RE SITTING IN A ROOM HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT CUTTING 10% OF OUR BUDGET NEXT YEAR AND WE'RE HAVING A FEAR BAITING CONVERSATION ABOUT CUTTING JUST OVER 1% FROM A PARTNER. AND I THINK THAT IS, UH, APPLES AND ORANGES. THANK YOU MR. AGARAL. THANK YOU MR. CONNOR. WELL LY DEBATE, NOT A EASY DEBATE. UH, THAT CONCERNS, UH, TAYLOR, YOU SAID, I THINK WE GO WITH AND RUBY, YOU GIVE THAT SENTIMENT, I'M SURE ABSOLUTELY WE CAN DO THAT. WE DO THAT. WE LEAVE YOUR [03:35:01] DESTINY IN COUNCIL SENSE. THAT'S MAYBE WE DON'T WANT THAT. I THINK WE, IF WE DO THAT OF YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE RIGHT TO DO THAT? YEAH, WE CAN. DO YOU WANT THE DESTINY COUNCILS AND, AND THEN LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT AND TELL THEM FOR RECREATION? I DON'T, THEY'RE A VERY WISE COUNCIL, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY CAN CELEBRATE AS GOOD AS WE CAN ABOUT OUR BOX. THAT'S THE REASON THE BOARD WAS CREATED. SO BEST APPROACHES, AND I CAN WATCH WHAT CITY MANAGER SHE IS NOT AGAINST BONDS, SHE IS BEING, OF COURSE SHE'S PART OF THIS MACRO BIGGER REALITY. SO SHE HAS TO GIVE SOME CHALLENGES TOO. SO WITHIN THAT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE JENKINS AND STAFF HAVE, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED A REASONABLE, UH, SOLUTION. NOT, UH, NOT, NOT, NO ONE WOULD LIKE ANYTHING TO BE CUT. I KNOW ZOOM BECOMES A, I I LOVE ZOOM. I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ADVOCATE DURING THE BOND AND ALL. BUT WHEN THE NUMBER IS BIG AND THE CUTS NOT THE PERCENTAGES, THAT NUMBER BECOMES ACCORDINGLY. AND LITTLE DISCUSSION I HAD WITH THEM, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. SO THEY, THEY, IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE TAKING A STAND, DON'T CUT AND ALL BECAUSE THEY ARE, YOU TALK ABOUT THE JOBS, MR. WARD JOBS WILL BE CUT ANYWAY, FISHER TOWER RECREATION CENTERS, IT'LL BE CUT, IT'LL BE UH, SHUT TOWER POOL, IT'LL BE CUT. SO, SO THAT'S ACCUMULATIVE EFFECT. SO WHEREVER WE DO IT. SO LET'S THINK WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT LENS AND IF THERE IS, I THINK I SUGGEST, I THINK AS MUCH AS IT'S UH, UH, DIRECTOR JENKINS AND STAFF SHOP, I THINK NUMBER HAS BEEN GIVEN, IF YOU ARE SAYING DON'T CUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S TELL HIM WHERE, WHERE TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM. THAT WAY AT LEAST YOU KNOW THERE IS A SOLUTION FOR HIM AS MUCH AS IT'S HIS AND HIS STAFF'S RESPONSIBILITY. OTHERWISE WE'LL KEEP ON GOING IN THIS CIRCLE. 'CAUSE EVERYONE WOULD WANT WHAT'S NOT TO BE CUT. BUT YEAH, NOT TO CUT WOULD NOT BE A SOLUTION. SO WITH THAT DIRECTOR JENKINS, YOU SEEN, YOU KNOW, THE PASSION, I THINK WE KNOW WHAT THE REALITY IS. SO TOUGH JOB, BUT I GUESS COME WITH SOME, SOME LEE JUGGLING OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE . YEAH. SO, SO, SO FAR BEFORE I LEAVE HERE TODAY, I MEAN, AND I THINK YOU SOUND AWARE MR. CHAIR, FOR ME, I JUST NEED TO KNOW IT SOUND LIKE THERE'S FOUR OPTIONS FOR THE BOARD TODAY. ONE OPTION IS YOU INSTRUCTED ME TO DO NOTHING, DON'T SUBMIT ANYTHING. YOU INSTRUCTED ME TO SUBMIT WHAT I HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU ALL TODAY, OR YOU ASKING ME TO SUBMIT SOMETHING MINUS THE TWO 50 FROM THE ZOO. AND THEN THAT MEANS I WILL HAVE, I WILL YOU ALL TRUST ME TO GO FIND ANOTHER 250,000 SOMEWHERE, UH, TO, TO SUBMIT OR WE JUST DON'T SUBMIT TO TWO 15. I I THINK THAT'S THE ROUTE I WOULD SUGGEST. I THINK IT SEEMS THERE'S OVERWHELMING, UH, LOVE FOR THE ZOOM FOR THE RIGHT REASONS. SO I THINK THAT TWO 50 AND I'M HOPEFULLY IF ANYONE STRONGLY THIS TWO 50 SHOULD BE TAKEN OFF THE TABLE, THEN YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PARKS ARE ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT DO RECREATION CENTERS. SO THEN WE FIGURE OUT, I THINK NO ONE WANTS TO CUT PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT MAYBE CHIEF GO WILL GIVE US SOME SUPPORT OR SOMETHING. SO THEN IDENTIFY THAT TWO 50 WHERE IT GOES FROM AND DID I SAY IT RIGHT AND ALL. I THINK THAT'S THE, I THINK THAT'S THE WAY I, IF WE DON'T DO THAT, I THINK WE'LL LEAVE DESTINY AND HAND OF UH, THE COUNCIL AND THEN, THEN, THEN THAT TRUST THAT WILL BECOME MUCH WORSE FOR PEOPLE. YOU AGREE? OH, I I I, ANY OTHER TIME WHEN, WHEN Y'ALL PASSED THE RESOLUTION A COUPLE YEARS AGO? YEAH, I THOUGHT YOU WAS IN A GOOD POSITION. FAST FORWARD SIX YEARS LATER, FIVE YEARS LATER, THE REALITY THE COUNCIL HAS SAID, MADE IT VERY CLEAR THERE'S A $51 MILLION DEFICIT AND THEY EXPECT EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE. YEAH. BUT I, I STRONGLY SUGGEST, I THINK THERE'S MORE FOCUS GOING ON PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE CITY DIRECTOR CHAMPIONS. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME SUPPORT, SUPPORT FROM DALLAS PD TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCE. I'M NOT SAYING UNDO EVERYTHING, BUT YOU HAVE MAYBE THERE IS SOME WHERE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, BY THE BLOCK WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THE RIGHT REASONS, PUBLIC SAFETY IS GETTING LOTS OF DOLLARS AND PARKS ARE PART OF THE CITY. SO MAYBE I THINK SOME OF THAT COMES TO HELP US. AND I, I PROMISE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY CAN GRANT US SOME MONEY FOR SECURITY LIGHTS AND EXACTLY. THINGS LIKE THAT. AND [03:40:01] THEN I CAN REDUCE THIS BUDGET BY TWO 50. YEAH. AND PLEASE TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO AS A BOARD. YOU WANT US TO INDIVIDUALLY SEND EMAILS TO CHIEF OR ANYONE AS I THINK WE WOULD DO THAT, THAT, UH, CITY DALLAS NEEDS TO SUPPORT PARKS IN THIS BY TIME SINCE THEY ARE GETTING MORE RESOURCES. YEAH. AND JUST TO NOT SEE KEVIN OUT THERE WHO OVERSEAS KEVIN MONEY OVERSEAS OUR SECURITY, BUT YOU KNOW, YEAH. DPP DID GIVE US A COST SAVINGS THIS YEAR. THEY, THEY GAVE US HOW MANY CAMERAS, UH, HOW MANY CAMERAS ARE THEY GIVING US THIS YEAR? SO THEY'RE DONATING ABOUT A HUNDRED PLUS CAMERAS. SUCH BUS CAMERAS BE POPULAR 'CAUSE THEY'RE REPLACING THEIR CAMERAS AND THOSE CAMERAS THEY'RE GIVING US ARE STILL GOOD. SO IF I CAN LOOK AT WHERE WE WAS GOING TO SPEND ABOUT TWO 50 ON CAMERAS IN THE FUTURE, THEN WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS JUST REDUCE THAT COST. EXACTLY. SO THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE PEOPLE ALSO WITH THAT. YEAH, I THINK GREAT DISCUSSION. AND UH, BRIAN, THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN THERE ALREADY TODAY, SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING MOVE. ANY REPORTS PLEASE FROM ANY NO SIR. DISCUSSION. ANY STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? NO, SIR. NEXT PART, LET'S BUG THURSDAY, AUGUST 20TH, 2026 AT 10:00 PM AND IT IS 1:43 PM AND THE AGENDA OF PARKS AND . THANK YOU. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.