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[Community Police Oversight Board on August 11, 2026.]
EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING OF THE CITY OF DALLAS COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.THE TIME IS 5:39 PM ON AUGUST 11TH, AND THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS NOW IN SESSION.
I AM THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, AND I'M CALLING MADE INTO ORDER.
CURRENTLY, THE O THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD DOES NOT HAVE A CHAIR OR A VICE CHAIR.
THEREFORE, THE CPOB MUST APPOINT A TEMPORARY CHAIR UNDER THE DALLAS CITY CODE CHAPTER EIGHT AND THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT.
THE TEMPORARY CHAIR MUST BE A MEMBER OF THE CPOB AND PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THE AT CITY HALL.
THE APPOINTMENT OF THE TEMPORARY CHAIR ENDS WHEN THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR A TEMPORARY CHAIR, MADAM DIRECTOR? I SO MOVE THAT.
JULIA SIMON, SERVE AS OUR CHAIR TONIGHT.
IS THERE A SECOND? EIGHT? I SECONDED.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
I TURN THE MEETING OVER TO
DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT TWO OF JONATHAN MAPLES.
DISTRICT THREE, DISTRICT FOUR.
UH, DISTRICT FIVE, DISTRICT SIX.
UM, DISTRICT EIGHT, JUDGE LANDER.
THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CITIZEN POLICE REVIEW BOARD, IS TO FOSTER PUBLIC TRUST BY ENSURING THAT COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT AGAINST DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES ARE HANDLED FAIRLY, THOROUGHLY AND TRANSPARENTLY.
THE CPOB ALSO ENSURES THAT DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE MEANS TO FILE COMPLAINTS.
THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT SUPPORTS THE CPOB BY PROVIDING FUNCTIONAL AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
NOW WE HAVE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE OPEN MICROPHONE PERIOD AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH BOARD MEETING, UP TO FIVE PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK.
THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK MUST REGISTER BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS.
SPEAKER REGISTRATION WILL OPEN 15 MINUTES PRIOR TO THE START OF THE BOARD MEETING.
EACH PERSON WHO SPEAKS AT A PUBLIC MEETING MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME, ADDRESS, AND IF APPLICABLE, WHO HE OR SHE REPRESENTS.
THE FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER.
THEY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE PERSON TODAY.
ANYONE ONLINE? AMINA SAYE, MS. SAYE.
LOOKS LIKE SHE IS NOT HERE AT THIS TIME.
SO WE WILL, UM, MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 9TH, 2026 CPOB REGULAR MEETING MINUTES.
UM, HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, REVIEW THE BOARD MINUTES? I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE.
UM, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BOARD MINUTES? OH, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
IS THERE A SECOND? JUDGE LANDED.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
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ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.NEXT WE HAVE OUR INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION REPORT.
MAJOR CANDELARIA WITH THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DEPARTMENT.
UH, FIRST I WANT TO WELCOME AND THANK THE BOARD.
I MEAN, WE HAD A GOOD RECESS FOR JULY, I HOPE.
AND I, UH, HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR RECESS, TOOK TIME FOR YOURSELVES AND YOUR FAMILY.
UM, PART OF OUR UPDATES THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE BEEN ASSISTING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WITH OCPO IN, UH, KIND OF GETTING THEIR CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM SET UP WITH OUR, OUR, UH, VENDOR WITH VERSA TERM AND IA PRO.
UH, WE'RE KIND OF ALMOST AT THE FINISH LINE.
SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A GOOD PROCESS, BEEN A GOOD COLLABORATION.
AND, UH, WE HAVE SOME MEETINGS SET UP IN THE FUTURE TO KIND OF GET THAT SOLIDIFIED AND MOVE AND MOVE FORWARD SO THAT THEY HAVE A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
UH, DPDS ALSO GONNA BE HAVING SOME UPCOMING PROMOTIONS FOR THE RANK AND FILE.
SO WE'LL BE HAVING LIEUTENANT SERGEANT AND SENIOR CORPORAL PROMOTIONS.
I AM CURRENTLY LOSING TWO SERGEANTS TO THE RANK OF LIEUTENANT, AND I WILL BE LOSING ONE SENIOR CORPORAL TO THE RANK OF SERGEANT.
AND I HAVE FAITH THAT THEY'LL BE GREAT LEADERS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE'VE ALSO ASSISTED IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WITH OCPO STAFF AND INTERNS TO SPEND TIME WITH OUR MOUNTED UNIT AT THE HORSE BARN AND AS WELL AS TWO RIDE ALONGS, ONE AT SOUTHWEST AND AT SOUTH CENTRAL.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE, UM, LAST THING IS THE BOARD MEMBERS.
SOME OF YOU ALL WILL HAVE, UM, A TRAINING AT THE FIREARMS TRAINING CENTER AUGUST 25TH.
AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT TIME OUT THERE.
UM, MY TWIN BROTHER IS THE RANGE MASTER OUT THERE.
THAT'S KIND OF A LITTLE SURPRISE.
SO IF YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU GIVE 'EM SOME LOVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY, HEARING NONE.
OKAY, NEXT WE'LL HAVE THE OCPO STAFF REPORT.
OKAY, SO TONIGHT I WILL PROVIDE AN OCPO BUDGET OPERATION AND O OVERSIGHT PERFORMANCE AND, UM, AND BOARD SUPPORT UPDATE.
SO THE CITY CONTINUES TO FACE PHYSICAL FINANCIAL PRESSURES.
OCPO DEVELOPS ITS FI, UM, FY 27 AND FY 28 BUDGET WITH A FOCUS ON OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCIES AND RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP OF RESOURCES.
I EVALUATED OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE COSTS WHILE MAINTAINING THE QUALITY AND TIMELINESS OF THE OVERSIGHT SERVICE.
SO OUR PROPOSED BUDGET IS SET AT 796,967 FOR FY 26 SLASH 27 AND 805,397 FOR FY 27 SLASH 28.
SO FOR THE FY 27, THE COMMUNICATION ADVISOR POSITION WILL BE ELIMINATED AND WE WILL BE RECLASSIFYING OUR MOST EXPERIENCED EXPERIENCED POLICY ANALYST AS A SENIOR POLICY AND COMPLIANCE SPECIALIST, RESULTING IN THE SAVINGS OF 91,000 AND FY 27.
OUR PROPOSED BUDGET IS SET AS 796,967 FOR FY 27 AGAIN.
SO, SO PLEASE, UM, REVIEW THE ATTACHED, UH, MANAGEMENT SERVICES, UM, BUDGET DOCUMENT, WHICH WAS SHARED VIA EMAIL.
THE BUDGET FOR FY 27, UM, REPRESENT A 94,000, UM, INCREASE FROM FY 26 SLASH 27, WHICH WAS, UM, 702,088.
UM, 888 PLAN BUDGET, DESPITE A REDUCTION IN A FULL-TIME POSITION DUE TO THE ELIMINATION OF 119,000, UM, AND 190 IN VACANCY SAVINGS.
BY INCREASING OUR RETENTION RATE IN THE OFFICE, THE STAFF REDUCTION MAY, UM, CAUSE SOME DELAYS IN COMMUNICATION AND LIMIT IMMEDIATE, UM, MEDIA RESPONSE.
THE RECLASSIFICATION WILL STRENGTHEN OUR INTERNAL COMPLIANCE AND POLICY DEVELOPMENT, ENSURING CONTINUED ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.
THE CORE OVERSIGHT WILL REMAIN MANAGED BY FIVE STAFF MEMBERS.
UM, WE COLLABORATED AS MENTIONED BY, UM, MAJOR CANARIA.
UM, WE COLLABORATED WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO USE AN EXISTING CONTRACT ENABLING INVESTMENT IN THE Q NEW CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR OCPO, SAVING 18,000 AND IMPROVING COMPLAINT RESPONSE EFFICIENCIES,
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IMPLEMENT AND MODERN CASE MANAGEMENT TECHNOLOGY WILL IMPROVE RISK ASSESSMENT AND THEN RESPONSE EFFICIENCIES.THESE CHANGES WILL, UM, EXPAND OUR OVERSIGHT CAPACITIES, SUPPORT VITAL TECHNOLOGY, AND THEN HELP TO OFFSET THE FUNCTIONAL IMPACT OF THE REDUCED STAFF.
SO FOR FY 20 STAFF AND SLASH 28, WE PROPOSE MAINTAINING CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS AND PROGRAM LEVELS WITH NO FURTHER REDUCTION OR ENHANCEMENT.
THIS YEAR, THERE WILL BE 16 IN-PERSON AND NINE VIRTUAL, UM, BUDGET TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
AND DUE TO THE LIMITED STAFF AND RESOURCES, WE WILL FOCUS ON THE TOP SEVEN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS, WHICH IS DISTRICT 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, AND 14.
I, MYSELF WILL, UM, SIGNED UP FOR DISTRICT 14, UM, FOR AUGUST 13, DISTRICT TWO ON AUGUST, AND THEN DISTRICT TWO AND SIX FOR AUGUST 24TH.
UM, KIMONO WILL SIGN, UM, HAS SIGNED UP FOR DISTRICT EIGHT, UM, HAS SIGNED UP FOR DISTRICT NINE ON AUGUST 13 AND 20.
AND THEN SIERRA SIGNED UP FOR DISTRICT FOUR, UM, ON AUGUST 17 AND DISTRICT SEVEN ON AUGUST 24.
THIS FISCAL YEAR OCP WILL CONTINUE TO MEET AND EXCEED KEY PERFORMANCE TARGET.
SO WE RECEIVED 121, SO 1,121 EXTERNAL COMPLAINTS, 452, UM, ACCOMMODATIONS, UM, THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED, UM, THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND THEN 90% OF EXTERNAL COMPLAINTS WERE PROCESSED WITHIN 30 DAYS, EXCEEDING THE ESTABLISHED TARGET OF 70 A HUNDRED PERCENT OF OCPO AND INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION WERE COMPLETED WITHIN 90 DAYS EXCEEDING THE TARGET.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO OUTSTANDING AND INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
SEVEN, INVESTIGATE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION WERE COMPLETED THIS YEAR.
21 INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUEST HAS BEEN COMPLETED, 27 HAS BEEN RECEIVED THIS FISCAL YEAR.
OCDO HAS REVIEWED, UM, 13 DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURE MEETING.
ITS ANNUAL GOAL OF 12 AND IT COMPLAINTS CONTINUE TO TREND, UM, USE OF FORCE AND PROPER ACTION OR COMMENT, IMPROPER OR NO INVESTIGATION AND DISCOURTESY AND OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT AS THE MOST COMMON ALLEGATION REQUIRING REVIEW COMPREHENSIVE REPORTS ON EXTERNAL COMPLAINTS, ARRESTS AND CRITICAL INCIDENTS ARE AVAILABLE IN THE SHAREPOINT AND IN YOUR BINDER FOR FURTHER REVIEW.
IN REGARDS TO AN UPDATE ON THE SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR.
SO GREG HUFF, UM, RESIGNED FROM HIS POSITION AS SPECIAL INVESTIGATOR WITH THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
EFFECTIVE JULY 7TH, GREG ACCEPTED A PROMOTION TO SENIOR INVESTIGATOR WITH THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION, WHERE HE WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR DALLAS COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, GREG'S OUTSTANDING PROFESSIONALISM AND HIS SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE OCPO, INCLUDING HIS LEADERSHIP AND INFANT INVESTIGATION, AND HIS WORK ON HIGH PROFILE CASES THAT BROUGHT POSITIVE RECOGNITION FOR OUR OFFICE.
SO TO ENSURE CONTINUATION IN OUR OVERSIGHT DUTIES AND MAINTAIN TIMELY REVIEW OF EXTERNAL COMPLAINTS, I HAVE TAKEN SEVERAL STEPS TO EXPEDITE THE HIRING PROCESS FOR GRADES REPLACEMENT.
SO WITH THEIR APPROVALS, THE CITY MANAGER, WE RECEIVED AN EXCEPTIONAL EXCEPTION TO THE HIRING FREEZE, AND I HAVE SECURED A SALARY GRADE UPGRADE FOR THE POSITION FROM A GRADE 17 TO 19 TO MAINTAIN COMPETITIVENESS AND ATTRACTING TOP TALENT.
THE JOB POST DIDN'T CLOSE ON AUGUST 5TH, AND WE RECEIVED AN IMPRESSIVE NUMBER OF APPLICANTS OVER 130.
AND AFTER A THOROUGH REVIEW, WE HAVE INVITED 12 CANDIDATES TO INTERVIEW ON AUGUST 12TH, 13 AND 17.
SO TWO OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING HAS OCCURRED, UM, RECENTLY ON AUGUST 6TH AND THEN AUGUST 7TH INVOLVING THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT WAS PROMPTLY NOTIFIED AND RESPONDED TO BOTH INCIDENTS.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THESE TWO INCIDENTS WERE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
UM, AS THEY OCCURRED AFTER THE AGENDA WAS FINALIZED, OCPO REMAINING COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING A STRONG PRESENCE THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
DESPITE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, OUR OUTREACH REMAINS STRONG.
THIS FISCAL YEAR, OCVO HOSTED OR PARTICIPATED IN 64 COMMUNITY EVENTS, 47 OF WHICH WAS AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, UM, SURPASSED IN OUR ANNUAL TARGET OF 50.
UM, STAFF HAS ALSO CONTINUED, UM, OUTREACH AND EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION AND DPD TO IMPROVE AWARENESS OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT SERVICES AND AVAILABLE COMPLAINT RESOLUTION OPTION TO IMPROVE EFFICIENCIES AND REDUCE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.
BOARD MEMBERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO UTILIZE THIS CITY ISSUED LAPTOPS DURING MEETINGS TO TRANSITION FROM A MORE PAPERLESS PROCESS.
AND KINDLY REMIND US AT LEAST FOUR DAYS BEFORE MEETINGS IF YOU PLAN TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY TO HELP US CONSERVE RESOURCES.
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DISTRICT 1, 7, 12, AND 15 SEATS CURRENTLY, UM, ARE VACANT AWAITING APPOINTMENT BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.DISTRICT FOUR WAS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE.
THE BOARD MEMBER, UM, RECENTLY EXPRESSED THE INTENT TO RESIGN FROM THE BOARD DUE TO PERSONAL COMMITMENTS.
UM, I WANT TO ALSO JUST TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE VICE CHAIR, FORMER VICE CHAIR OZZIE SMITH FOR HIS SERVICE ON, UM, THE BOARD.
UM, MR. SMITH HAS RESIGNED FROM THE BOARD.
UM, SINCE HE DIDN'T ATTEND THE MEETING, I JUST WANNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE HIS, UM, LEADERSHIP.
UM, AND THEN IN SUMMARY, I JUST WANNA SAY OCBO CONTINUES TO JUST EXCEED KEY PERFORMANCE, TARGET ADVANCED MEANINGFUL POLICY REFORM AND EXPAND, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND MAINTAIN STRONG OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE DESPITE FISCAL CONSTRAINTS.
BUT THAT WOULD BE ALL FOR MY REPORT.
I JUST WANNA OPEN UP THE QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM BOARD MEMBERS? WELL, TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT, UM, FELLOW AND, UM, UH, DETAILED, THOROUGH REPORT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE ON, OBVIOUSLY YOU TALKED ABOUT THE INTERVIEWS FOR THE, UH, INVESTIGATOR.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR WHEN YOU WANNA GET SOMEBODY, UM, UH, HIRED? I THINK IT WILL REALLY DEPENDS.
IT'S GONNA BE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT I THINK IT WILL DEPEND START DATE BASED ON WHERE THE PERSON IS COMING FROM.
UM, WE HAVE A FEW CANDIDATES WHO'S OUTTA STATE, SO OF COURSE THAT WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE A FEW WEEKS TO COME ON.
UM, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME LOCAL CANDIDATES AS WELL.
SO I THINK IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHO, UM, WE, WE SELECT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT PROCESS.
AND AS FAR AS SALARY NEGOTIATION AS WELL, YOU MAY HAVE SAID THIS, BUT IN THE INTERIM, ARE WE JUST PUTTING A HOLD ON THE INVESTIGATION OR? YES, ANY, ANY INVESTIGATION THAT THE BOARD VOTES ON TONIGHT, UM, WILL BE ON HOLD UNTIL A NEW, UM, PERSON GETS JUST ONBOARDED AND THEN TRAINED.
UM, AND OF COURSE, GET THEIR CERTIFICATION AND EVERYTHING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE POLICY ANALYST REPORT AND WE WILL HAVE, UM, POLL POLICY ANALYST, UH, SIERRA OBA SUI, WHO WILL PROVIDE A BRIEF PRECEDENT.
DID I GET IT WRONG? I'M, THANK YOU.
WAIT, I, I, I NEED IT PHONETICALLY.
I APOLOGIZE FOR BUTCHERING YOUR NAME.
I'M THE POLICY ANALYST FOR THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
OUR FIRST INDEPENDENT REVIEW IS REGARDING MS. MARGARET MONTGOMERY'S CASE WHO FILED A COMPLAINT ON APRIL 30TH, 2026, ALLEGING THE FOLLOWING.
SHE ALLEGED THAT THE DALLAS POLICE DID NOT INVESTIGATE HER CONCERNS AFTER SHE CALLED TO REPORT ASSAULT BY HER EX-BOYFRIEND.
SHE FURTHER ALLEGES THAT THE OFFICER WHO INTERVIEWED HER REPEATEDLY INTERRUPT HER AND QUESTIONED THE, THE VALIDITY OF HER STORY.
SHE ALSO REPORTS THAT THE OFFICER WAS RUDE DURING THE INTERACTION AND BELIEVES THE ARREST WAS UNJUSTIFIED, CITING MISINFORMATION AND INADEQUATE INVESTIGATION BY THE OFFICERS.
AND THE POLICE REPORT OFFICERS STATED THAT THE INTERVIEWED MS. MONTGOMERY WHO PROVIDED SEVERAL DIFFERING ACCOUNTS OF THE INCIDENT.
THEY ALSO INTERVIEWED HER BOYFRIEND WHO REPORTED THAT MS. MONTGOMERY SLAPPED A BOWL OF SOUP FROM HIS HANDS CAUSING BURNS, AND THEN BIT HIM ON THE CHEST, RESULTING IN THE BLEEDING.
MS. MONTGOMERY WAS ARRESTED FOR ASSAULT FAMILY VIOLENCE AND BODILY INJURY, AND THE BODY-WORN CAMERA, THE, OF OFFICER FOWLER, INTERVIEWED MS. MONTGOMERY, FOLLOWED BY AN INTERVIEW OF THE BOYFRIEND, OFFICER FOWL FOWLER THEN DECIDED TO ARREST MS. MONTGOMERY FOR FAMILY VIOLENCE.
I DO WANNA MAKE AN UPDATE THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE MEMO.
AFTER DISCUSSING, UM, WITH MAJOR CANDELARIA HERE, UM, REGARDING SOME OF THE, THE INFORMATION SHE PROVIDED IN HER COMPLAINT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE ALSO ALLEGED WAS THAT PHOTOS WERE NOT TAKEN OF HER OR THE EX-BOYFRIEND.
AND SO AFTER REVIEWING AN SOPA PATROL AS ROLL CALL TRAINING BULLETIN PATROL S I'M SORRY, PATROL.
PATROL, SOP, UM, REGARDING PHOTOGRAPHS DURING FAMILY VIOLENCE INCIDENTS, UM, WE,
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UH, COLLABORATE WITH THE MAJOR HERE TO RECOMMEND A ROLL CALL TRAINING BULLETIN, AND HE CAN GO FURTHER INTO THAT.SO AS, AS WE REVIEWED THIS, UH, THE PATROL SOP WAS LAST REVISED IN FEBRUARY 22ND, 2021.
AND SO IT, IT STATES THAT PHOTOGRAPHS WILL BE TAKEN OF INJURIES WHEN POSSIBLE TO ENHANCE TESTIMONY IN COURT OFFICERS ISSUED A BODY-WORN CAMERA BWC ARE ALSO ISSUED A MOBILE VIEW CAPABLE OF TAKING STILL PHOTOS.
THE DEPARTMENT HASN'T ISSUED MOBILE VIEWERS PROBABLY SINCE 2021.
UH, HOWEVER, THEY ARE ISSUED, UH, CITY CELL PHONES WITH THE APPLICATION, WHICH I FORGET THE NAME OF THE AXON APPLICATION TO TAKE THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS.
AND SO WE NEED TO UPDATE THIS LANGUAGE IN THE SOP AS WELL, AS WELL AS DO A ROLL CALL AS A REMINDER OF, HEY, WHEN POSSIBLE, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING THESE, THESE PHOTOGRAPHS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION, JUDGE LANDER? UH, DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, MR. LANDER, UM, DO THE OFFICERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE A PHOTOGRAPH IF NECESSARY, IF THEY HAVE THEIR CITY ISSUED CELL PHONE? THEY DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT INDIVIDUAL OFFICER HAD THEIR CITY ISSUED CELL PHONE WITH THEM.
CAN THE BODY-WORN CAMERA BE TURNED INTO A PHOTOGRAPHIC MACHINE, IF YOU WILL? I HAVEN'T.
I CAN TAKE STILL PHOTOS IS WHAT I'M ASKING.
YEAH, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY CAN, UH, I CAN FOLLOW UP AND, AND MAKE SURE I GET THAT ANSWER, UH, THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.
APPRECIATE IF YOU LOOK INTO THAT.
BECAUSE THAT WOULD SAVE A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS COMPLAINT REGARDING MARGARET MONTGOMERY? NOPE.
DO WE NEED A VOTE TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION? YES.
YOU UM, I WOULD SAY YOU WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION AND THEN, UM, DISCUSSION, UM, OKAY.
AND WHAT WAS THE RECOMMENDATION? UM, SO I BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE, UM, ASSESSMENT OF THE
THAT WOULD BE A, YOU GUYS DON'T, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANNA APPROVE IT, BUT ARE YOU APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT OR APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE ROLL CALL? THAT WE DON'T THAT RIGHT? WE DON'T.
WELL, ARE WE, THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD LOOK TO SEE IF WE NEED A FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
SO THE QUESTION, SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS WE MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER WE THINK FURTHER INVESTIGATION WE HAD OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ALREADY DONE.
SO WE CAN ACCEPT THE FINDING THAT IS, WHICH IS THERE'S NO FURTHER ACTION NEEDED OR SOMEBODY CAN MOVE TO.
SO YOU CAN MOVE TO JUST ACCEPT THAT OR MOVE TO, I GUESS VOTE AGAINST IT.
NO, I DON'T THINK I CAN MAKE SENSE.
I WILL, I WILL MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, UM, REGARDING NO POLICY OF VIOLATIONS FOUND.
IF NOT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE SERVICE SIDE BOARD, IT'S THE RECOMMENDATION TO, ON THAT STAFF THAT YOU'RE MOVING TO ACCEPT.
WELL, THE OCPO PRELIMINARY REVIEW, RIGHT? IS THAT THERE'S NO POLICY BY, SO IS THAT WE WERE VOTING ON IS STAFF.
THERE'S NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION NECESSARY BECAUSE WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM VOTING.
THAT'S WHAT VOTING ARE WE CLEAR NOW? YES.
SO DO WE NEED A NEW MOTION OR NO? YOUR, YOUR MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE, UM, NO INVESTIGATION BY THE CORRECT OCDO.
SO, UM, UM, ALL THE, DO ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WE'LL GO DISTRICT BY DISTRICT.
ERIC PIER, DISTRICT SEVEN IS VACANT.
DISTRICT EIGHT, DISTRICT A JUDGE.
UH, DISTRICT NINE I BELIEVE IS ABSENT.
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UH, DISTRICT 10.UH, DISTRICT 13 IS, UH, ME, JULIA, SIMON.
OUR NEXT INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUEST IS FROM MS. STEPHANIE COLE, WHO ON MARCH 3RD, 2026 FILED A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE DALLAS POLICE, ALLEGING THE FOLLOWING.
SHE ALLEGES THAT ON FEBRUARY 28TH, 2026, SHE RETURNED TO HER SON'S TRAFFIC STOP AFTER LEARNING OF HIS ARREST AND THE IMPOUNDMENT OF HIS ILLEGAL INSURED VEHICLE.
SHE QUE SHE THEN QUESTIONED OFFICERS ABOUT HER SON'S ARREST AND THE VEHICLE IMPOUNDMENT.
SHE THEN STATES, AFTER OPENING THE DOOR TO THE VEHICLE, SHE WAS PLACED UNDER ARREST.
SHE ALLEGES THAT OFFICERS USE EXCESSIVE FORCE DURING THE ARREST, CAUSING SHOULDER INJURIES, BRUISING, SCRAPES, AND PAIN WHILE SHE WAS BEING HANDCUFFED.
THE COMPLAINANT ALSO ALLEGES THAT HER SON WAS LATER RELEASED FROM CUSTODY, AND, UH, BELIEVES THAT HIS VEHICLE WAS UNNECESSARILY IMPOUNDED.
SHE FURTHER ALLEGES THAT SHE WAS DETAINED FOR A APPRO APPROXIMATELY 38 HOURS IN CURE BOND AND COURT RELATED EXPENSES, AND BELIEVE SHE WAS WRONGFULLY CHARGED DURING HER DETENTION.
SHE CLAIMS BEING DENIED HER PRESCRIBED MEDICATION IN ADEQUATE MEDICAL CARE, DESPITE INFORMING JAIL MEDICAL STAFF OF HER MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
ACCORDING TO THE POLICE REPORT, OFFICERS ARRESTED MS. STEPHANIE COLE FOR INTERFERENCE WITH PUBLIC DUTIES AFTER SHE STOOD IN THE DOORWAY OF A VEHICLE THAT WAS BEING TOWED DURING A TRAFFIC STOP.
THE REPORT ALSO STATES THAT MS. COLE WAS CHARGED WITH RESISTING ARREST AFTER PULLING AWAY AS OFFICERS ATTEMPTED TO HANDCUFF HER.
AND THIS MEMO IS, INCLUDES A, UH, STATEMENT FROM THE DOWS POLICE DEPARTMENT REGARDING THIS INCIDENT.
ON APRIL 2ND, 2026, DPD INTERNAL AFFAIRS INITIATED AN ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION AND TO THE COMPLAINANT.
AND UPON COMPLETION OF THIS INVESTIGATION, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS ISSUED THE FOLLOWING BASED ON THE TESTIMONY AND DOCUMENTATION AND VIDEO EVIDENCE COLLECTED DURING THE COURSE OF THE INVESTIGATION.
THE ARREST OF BOTH MR. PINSON AND MS. COLE WERE LAWFUL.
ADDITIONALLY, THE FORCE USED BY BOTH SENIOR CORPORAL RAMIREZ ORTIZ AND OFFICER CHAVEZ DURING THE ARREST OF MS. COLE WAS LAWFUL AND WITHIN DEPARTMENT POLICY, THEREFORE, THE ALLEGATIONS OF UNLAWFUL ARREST AND UNNECESSARY, UNNECESSARY USE OF FORCE BY SENIOR CORPORAL RAMIREZ ORTIZ AND OFFICER CHAVEZ WERE CLASSIFIED AS EXONERATED.
THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT CONDUCTED A PRELIMINARY REVIEW AND REFERRED THE MATTER TO THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION FOR INVESTIGATIONS TO ENSURE THAT NO DEPARTMENT POLICIES OR PROCEDURES WERE VIOLATED IN THIS INCIDENT.
YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, MS. COLE MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK, AND IF SO, UM, NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR THAT MINE.
SO, UM, UM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK MS. COLE.
UM, AND YOU CAN START, UM, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY.
UM, MY ASSESSMENT OF THE CASE IS WHERE, AND I'M GONNA TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
UH, I WENT TO TAKE MY SON, UH, THE INSURANCE THAT HE NEEDED TO PROVE, UH, THAT HIS INSURANCE WAS UPDATED ON HIS VEHICLE.
AND COME TO FIND OUT THEY DIDN'T EVEN NEED ME THERE.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN THERE.
THEY COULD HAVE CHECKED THE INSURANCE CARD WITHOUT ME EVEN SHOWING UP.
SO WHEN I DID SHOW UP, I ASKED THE POLICE OFFICERS AFTER THEY, UM, HAD CHECKED THE CARD, WAS IT, WAS THE CAR OKAY? THEY SAID, YES.
I SAID, IS IT GONNA BE IMPOUNDED? THEY SAID, NO.
I SAID, IS HE GOING TO JAIL? THEY SAID, NO.
SO I LEFT 10 OR 15 MINUTES LATER, MY SON CALLED ME BACK AND SAID, MAMA, THEY'RE GONNA IMPOUND THE CAR AND THEY'RE GONNA ARREST ME.
AND I SAID, FOR WHAT? AND HE SAYS, I DON'T KNOW.
SO I WENT BACK UP THERE, WHICH WAS JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES FROM WHERE I WAS, AND I ASKED HIM, I SAID, WHY DID Y'ALL LIE ABOUT THE CAR? AND THE, AND MY SON? AND THEY TOLD ME TO SHUT UP AND A FEW OTHER THINGS GET BACK OVER THERE BEFORE I WOUND UP IN TROUBLE.
AND SO, UM, AND SO, UH, I, AND
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SO I ASKED 'EM, I SAID, IS THE CAR LEGAL? THEY SAID, YES.SO I WAS WALKING THE CAR WHEN I WAS SNATCHED.
I WASN'T IN THE CAR DOOR AT ALL.
UH, I HADN'T EVEN MADE IT TO THE CAR.
I REACHED FOR THE CAR, UH, DOOR, HAD NOT OPENED IT OR ANYTHING.
AND THEY SNATCHED ME FROM BEHIND, THREW ME TO THE GROUND DRUG ME, FLIPPED ME OVER LIKE A FISH OUTTA WATER.
AND, UH, TOLD ME TO PUT MY HANDS BEHIND ME.
I HAVE RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS AND I COULDN'T GET MY HANDS BEHIND ME.
SO THEY KEPT HOLLERING, ARE YOU RESISTING ARREST? I SAID, SIR, I'M NOT RESISTING ARREST.
MY ARMS WILL NOT GO BEHIND ME.
SO THEY PUT ME ON THE GROUND, PULLED MY ARMS BEHIND ME TILL THEY SNAPPED MY RIGHT SHOULDER, SPLIT MY ROTATOR CUFF, UH, UH, TORN FOUR LIGAMENTS IN MY ARM AND START.
AND, AND I HAD BRUISES AND SCRATCHES, UH, FROM BEING DRUG.
I HAVE PICTURES FROM WHERE I WAS BRUISED, LITERALLY FROM HEAD TO TOE.
AND, UH, THEY ARRESTED ME AT THAT POINT AND TOLD ME THAT THEY WAS ARRESTING ME FOR RESISTING ARREST AND THE IMPEDING POLICE PROCEDURES WHEN THEY SAID I WAS HEADED FOR A LEGAL CAR TO MOVE MY SON'S CAR TO A SAFE LOCATION, WHICH HIS HOUSE WAS JUST TWO HOUSES FROM WHERE HE WAS STOPPED.
SO I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS.
AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARRESTED HIM AND IMPOUNDED HIS CAR, THEY LET HIM GO THE SAME DAY THEY ARRESTED HIM.
'CAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING TO HOLD HIM ON.
BUT YET HIS CAR TOOK $400 FOR US TO GET IT OUT OF THE POUND.
WHEN THEY ARRESTED ME, THERE WAS NOTHING REALLY TO HOLD ME ON OTHER THAN SOME CHARGES THAT WAS MADE UP BECAUSE MY HANDS WOULD NOT LIFT.
IT TOOK FOUR SETS OF CUFFS TO GET MY ARMS TO MY SIDE END TO END.
THEY STARTED WITH THE FIRST SET, REALIZED THAT DIDN'T WORK.
SO THEY STARTED WITH THE THIRD, THE FOURTH SET.
AND IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET MY HANDS BEHIND ME WHEN I GOT TO JAIL, THE FIRST THING THE POLICE OFFICER SAID AT THE, AT THE DESK, WHY DIDN'T Y'ALL HANDCUFF HER IN FRONT KNOWING THAT SHE HAD ARTHRITIS AND IMPEDING ISSUES THAT STOPPED HER FROM PUTTING HER HANDS BEHIND HER.
SO, IN A NUTSHELL, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AND MY SON.
I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, GIVING US THAT INFORMATION.
SO, UM, DO ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, UM, FOR THE STAFF ABOUT THE INCIDENT? YES.
DID YOU,
I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE VIDEO ON THIS? WE HAVE BODY-WORN CAMERA VIDEO.
THE VIDEO WAS SHARED IN, UM, THE SHAREPOINT? YES.
AND IT WAS ALSO, UM, I BELIEVE THE DE THERE WAS NO, THERE WAS NO VIDEO RELEASE, BUT IT, SO, UM, DO WE KNOW WHETHER, I'M SORRY, THIS IS JULIA SIMON, UH, DISTRICT 13.
DO WE KNOW WHETHER THE TOW TRUCK WAS THERE WHEN SHE ARRIVED? YES.
AND, UM, WAS IT ALREADY ON THE TOW TRUCK OR THERE SOME POLICIES REGARDING IF THE TOW TRUCK GETS THERE BEFORE THE OWNER OF THE CAR COMPANY? LIKE WAS THERE SOME POLICY OR SOMETHING ABOUT THAT? I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AND I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.
I KNOW THERE'S SOME TYPE OF COURTESY THING, BUT ACCORDING TO THE INVESTIGATION, I MEAN, SHE WAS NOTIFIED OR SHE WAS, THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO CALL HER THREE TIMES BY THE OFFICER ON SCENE, AND SO SHE DIDN'T ANSWER.
SO THAT'S WHY THE RECORD WAS ORDERED.
AND I, I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION.
SO IF ONCE IT'S ORDERED, CAN IT NOT BE CANCELED IF SOMEBODY SHOWS UP? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
I, YEAH, IF SOMEBODY COULD LOOK AT THAT, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW BECAUSE I, YEAH, I PERSONALLY, I DON'T ANSWER NUMBERS.
AND SO I WOULD LISTEN TO THE MESSAGE AND THEN MAYBE CALL BACK.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT.
WELL, I BELIEVE, UM, THE OFFICER USED HER SON'S PHONE TO CALL AS FAR AS THE NUMBER.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? HEY, I, GO AHEAD.
GO AHEAD, MR. ER, WHEN YOU GO NEXT.
I'M SORRY, MS. COLE, WE, UM, WE COULD ONLY GIVE YOU THE, THE THREE MINUTES UNDER THE, THE POLICY, SO I APOLOGIZE.
UM, JONATHAN MAPLES, DISTRICT TWO, WHAT, WHAT WAS HER SON ARRESTED FOR?
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I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WHAT WAS HER SON ARRESTED FOR? HE WAS ARRESTED FOR WARRANTS, UM, OUT OF DALLAS TRAFFIC TICKETS.SO I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, UM, UM, ARE ARE COMPLAINTS REGARDING TRAFFIC STOP CASES I, ON THE LIST OF THE THINGS THE DEPARTMENT GETS COMPLAINTS ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO FORCE, YOU KNOW, UM, IMPROPER, ALL THOSE KINDS OF COMPLIANCE, IS THIS ONE OF THE HIGH, THE HIGHEST THINGS THAT HAPPENED? IS IT BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC STOPS? DID WE KNOW? I KNOW IT'S PART OF IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'D BE THE HIGHEST.
WELL, I I ALSO WONDER TOO, IF YOU DO GET TO, UM, WHEN YOU'RE ARRESTING SOMEBODY, DOES THEIR AGE OR ANY OF THAT COME INTO PLAY AS FAR AS PROTOCOL AS PUTTING THE HANDS BEHIND THE BACK OR IN FRONT OF THE BACK? LIKE, UM, WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S SETS THAT STANDARD? IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMEBODY'S HAND BEHIND THEIR BACK, MEAN THE STANDARD IS TO PUT THE HANDS BEHIND THEIR BACK.
AT THE TIME WE WON'T KNOW A MEDICAL EVALUATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, I'LL LOOK AT THE POLICY.
I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, AND I'LL DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP ON THAT QUESTION.
BUT THE STANDARD IS, AND HOW THEY TRAINING HIS HANDS GO BEHIND THE BACK.
AND IF THERE IS A CRYO, I CAN'T DO IT, OR THEY COULD PHYSICALLY FEEL THAT SHE CAN'T DO IT.
THE EXTENSION WAS THAT, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE VIDEO THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE INVESTIGATION, IS THAT THERE WAS MULTIPLE SETS OF HANDCUFFS THAT WERE PUT ON AFTERWARDS TO ALLEVIATE SOME.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, JUDGE LANDER.
UH, MR. GATE, UNDER THE MEMO, IT SAYS, UNDER THE OCPO, PRELIMINARY REVIEW SAYS THAT, UH, WE REFERRED IT BACK TO THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION TO INVESTIGATE, TO ENSURE NO DEPARTMENT POLICIES WERE VIOLATED DURING THE INCIDENT.
DID THAT INVESTIGATION TAKE PLACE? YES, SIR.
UH, THIS INVESTIGATION TAKING PLACE AND COMPLETED AND THE, UH, IAD AND DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS NO, UM, DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES VIOLATED AS A RESULT OF THIS SITUATION.
CORRECT, SIR? SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE, UM, DOCUMENT ITSELF AND IT SAYS, UM, THAT, UM, THE ARRESTS WERE LAWFUL AND THE FORCE USED WAS LAWFUL.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE COMPLAINTS GO BEYOND THAT.
IS THAT TRUE OR NOT TRUE? IF THE COMPLAINTS GO BEYOND JUST WHETHER THE ARRESTS WERE LAWFUL? ARE YOU, ARE YOU ASKING IF I YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT, I'M, I'M TRYING TO FI FIGURE OUT IF THE REPORT COVERS ALL THE ALLEGATIONS THAT WERE MADE.
SO OUR REPORT AND THE, THE AGENDA IS JUST OUR REVIEW OF THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUESTS, UM, AND PRESENTING THAT WE DIDN'T INCLUDE INTERNAL AFFAIRS, UM, REPORT THAT WAS SHARED WITH YOU GUYS VIA SHAREPOINT.
UM, MAJOR, DO YOU, CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE ALLEGATION AND THE FINDING OF THAT INVESTIGATION? I THINK THAT WOULD KIND OF HELP TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THAT COMPLAINT WAS ADDRESSED.
THE FINDING IS IN THE MEMO UNDER THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION INVESTIGATION.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING, YES.
THAT IS THE FULL FINDING OF HER ALLEGATIONS OF THEIR INVESTIGATION INTO HER ALLEGATIONS.
SO THE TWO ALLEGATIONS WERE PRESENTED WERE UNLAWFUL ARREST AND THOSE, AND UNNECESSARY USE OF FORCE, WHICH BOTH WERE EXON.
EXONERATE ME IN THAT THEY OCCURRED, BUT IN POLICY MM-HMM
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UM, SO I THINK HERE, THERE IS NO RECOMMENDATION FROM THE, UM, UM, OFFICE OF, UM, COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
SO I THINK THE QUESTION FOR THE BOARD IS WHETHER WE THINK THE OFFICE, THE OFFICE SHOULD, UH, OCPO SHOULD, UH, CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION WHEN THERE'S AN INVESTIGATOR IN PLACE OR NOT.
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SO, UM, IF, IF SOMEONE IS READY TO, UH, EITHER, UM, UM, OH, I'M SORRY, BRANDON, GO AHEAD.UH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT I, THERE ARE ENOUGH QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THIS CASE THAT I THINK IT WARRANTS ANOTHER LOOK BY AN INDEPENDENT BODY, WHICH IS US.
SO I, MY MY VIEW IS THAT THE BOARD SHOULD TAKE UP AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION TO AT LEAST GET, GET ANOTHER SET OF EYES ON THIS AND MAKE A DECISION.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AND, UH, I WILL BE VOTING FOR AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
DO YOU WANNA MAKE THE MOTION THEN? UM, I CAN, I, I MOVE THAT WE, SORRY, I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANNA SECOND WHAT YOU SAID, BRANDON.
I, YOU SAID IT MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I COULD IN MY HEAD.
UM, SO I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING YET, BUT I THINK JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT MS. COLE FEELS LIKE WE ABSOLUTELY DID EVERYTHING WE COULD TO FEAR HER TO INVESTIGATE THE SITUATION AND, AND, AND MAKE SURE HER POSITION WAS HEARD.
WE SHOULD, I, WE SHOULD, UM, DO AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
SO I, I THINK IT WOULD, WITH ALL THE ALLEGATIONS THERE, IT WOULD JUST MAKE EVERYTHING VERY CLEAR FOR US TO DO THAT.
SO, DOES ANYONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION
UM, SO WE GOT A MOTION, UM, LOOK AT MY MOTION FOR MS. KING AND A SECOND FROM MR. FRAZIER.
IS THAT RIGHT, FRIEDMAN? I'M SORRY.
ANY, UH, DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, WE READY FOR A VOTE? UM, I WOULD DO A ROLL CALL ON THIS DISTRICT.
DISTRICT TWO, WE VOTE, UH, PUT THAT CO UH, YAY WOULD BE, UH, INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.
I'M SORRY, WAS THERE MORE ANOTHER DISCUSSION? I DID, I MISSED IT.
UM, YOU WOULD LIKE AN INVESTIGATION? YES.
DISTRICT THREE? UH, DISTRICT FOUR I THINK IS NOT HERE.
DISTRICT FIVE I THINK IS NOT PRESENT.
UH, DISTRICT EIGHT, DISTRICT EIGHT.
UH, DISTRICT 10? DISTRICT 10? YES.
NEXT, SO THAT, UM, JUDGE LANDER DISTRICT EIGHT, SO THAT, UH, MS. COLE UNDERSTANDS, WOULD YOU REPEAT WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE DOING AS A RESULT OF THIS OATH? YES.
UH, MS. MS. COLE, ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE? OKAY.
WE JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, UH, WE VOTED THAT WE WILL LOOK FURTHER INTO YOUR COMPLAINT.
UH, THE OFFICE OF POLICE, UH, UH, OVERSIGHT WILL LOOK INTO YOUR COMPLAINT AND WE WILL HAVE A DECISION, UH, WHEN THE INVESTIGATOR IS IN PLACE TO, TO PERFORM IT.
APPRECIATE YOU, UH, TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE AND TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION.
NEXT, OUR NEXT INDEPENDENT REVIEW REQUEST IS FROM JOSEPH WARREN, WHO ON JUNE 16TH, 2026 FILED A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE DALLAS POLICE, ALLEGING THE FOLLOWING, THAT WHEN HE PARKED HIS VEHICLE LEGALLY ON A PUBLIC STREET, A NEARBY HOMEOWNER CONFRONTED HIM, DEMANDING HE PARK ELSEWHERE.
MR. UM, MORIN THEN CONTACTED 9 1 1 FOR POLICE ASSISTANCE TO RESOLVE THE DISPUTE OFFICER TRAINING LOGAN SAWYER AND SENIOR CORPORAL SUV RESPONDED, MR. UMIN ASKED THE OFFICERS TO INFORM THE HOMEOWNER THAT HE WAS LEGALLY PERMITTED TO PARK ON THE PUBLIC STREET.
MR. UM, MORIN STATES THAT ONE OFFICER ACKNOWLEDGED HE WAS LAWFULLY PARKED, BUT REPEATEDLY INSTRUCTED HIM TO MOVE HIS VEHICLE TO KEEP THE PEACE.
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BECAUSE HE DID NOT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MR. UM, MORIN ALLEGES THE RESPONDING OFFICER FAILED TO ENFORCE THE LAW AND PROPERLY DIRECTED HIM TO MOVE HIS VEHICLE, AND GAVE THE HOMEOWNER THE IMPRESSION THAT HOMEOWNERS CAN DETERMINE WHO MAY PARK ON A PUBLIC STREET.MR. UMER AND FURTHER ALLEGES THAT THE OFFICER ABUSED HIS AUTHORITY AND ENGAGED IN DISCRIMINATORY RESIDENCE RESIDENCY BASED ENFORCEMENT AND FAILED TO FOLLOW APPLICABLE LAWS AND DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES.
THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION CONDUCTED A PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE COMPLAINT AND DETERMINED THAT THE INCIDENT INVOLVED A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION REGARDING THE COMPLAINANT'S PARKED VEHICLE, AND CONCLUDED THAT OFFICER LOGAN SAWYER REMAINED PROFESSIONAL THROUGHOUT THE ENCOUNTER AND PROVIDED THE COMPLAINANT WITH THE REQUESTED INFORMATION.
BASED ON THE EVIDENCE REVIEWS REVIEWED, THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION DETERMINED THERE WAS NO VIOLATION OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES OR PROCEDURES, AND NO FURTHER ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION WAS WARRANTED.
THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT CONDUCTED A PRELIMINARY REVIEW OF THE COMPLAINT AND DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE NO POLICY, THERE WERE NO VIOLATION OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICIES OR PROCEDURES.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? YES.
SO THERE WAS A VA VIDEO SHARED IN THE SHAREPOINT.
UM, SO I SENT, I USUALLY SEND THEM IN A EMAIL LINKING THE SHAREPOINT TO EACH FILE.
IF YOU WERE TO CLICK ON THAT, ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IN THE VIDEOS RELATED TO EACH COMPLAINT IS INCLUDED IN THERE.
SO, UM, UM, DID HE MOVE HIS CAR OR HE DID NOT MOVE HIS CAR? HE DID NOT.
SO THE COMPLAINT WAS JUST THAT HE WAS ASKED TO MOVE HIS CAR BY THIS OFFICER? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THE COMPLAIN.
EVEN THOUGH HE WAS INFORMED THAT HE WAS ALLOWED TO PARK THERE AND HE WASN'T OTHERWISE TICKETED OR NO, NOTHING.
SO, UM, KEEP ME HONEST, THE, THE LAW FOR PARKING ON THE STREET IS 24 HOURS? YES, SIR.
UM, SO, YEAH, I THINK I'M BEING REPETITIVE HERE, BUT HE PARKED THERE.
THE, THE POLICE OFFICER SAID, HEY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST MOVE THE CAR TO KEEP THE PIECE? AND HE SAID, NO, I DON'T HAVE TO.
AND THEN HE ENDED UP PARKING THERE ANYWAY.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE HERE.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? UH, JUDGE LANDER? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I DID NOTE THAT, UM, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF MR. MORIN IS THAT, UM, UH, OFFICER FCG GET A FORMAL COMMENDATION.
KNOW WE CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION WHILE WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE AT LEAST ONE OFFICER BEING, UH, OUTED FOR DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
WHETHER OR NOT THE OTHER OFFICER DID SOMETHING WRONG IS A WHOLE NOTHER QUESTION, BUT IT WAS NOT IN VIOLATION OF POLICY IMPAIRMENT AND NO ONE WAS ARRESTED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I WOULD MOVE THAT, UM, JUST TO JUDGE LANDER.
I WOULD REMOVE THAT THE, UM, DECISION BY THE OCPO, UM, BE UPHELD AND THAT THERE BE NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION ON THIS MATTER.
ANY SECOND? I SECOND, UH, DEREK
ANY DISCUSSION? READY FOR A VOTE? READY FOR A VOTE? OKAY.
SO, UM, DISTRICT ONE IS VACANT DISTRICT, UH, TWO
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DISTRICT FOUR IS, UM, NOT PRESENT.UH, DISTRICT SIX, DISTRICT SIX.
DISTRICT NINE IS, UH, NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
UH, DISTRICT 10 WHAT JUDGE LAND SAID, I AGREE WITH OUR DECISION.
AND SO IT IS PASSED THE MOTION PASSES.
OKAY, SO NOW WE TURN TO THE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE, HERE REGARDING THE NUMBERS, DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON YOUR REVIEW OF THE REPORTS? UH, MADAM CHAIR.
I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION IS DO WE CONTINUE TO SEE, UM, A SLIGHT REDUCTION IN, IN CRIME IN THE CITY OF DALLAS BASED ON THESE NUMBERS? OVERALL MAJOR? YOU LEFT US
IS IT, IS THAT A QUESTION? IF THE REDUCTION IN CRIME BASED ON THE NUMBERS, THE ARREST REPORT, ARE YOU REFERRING I'M JUST, WELL, THIS, I GUESS THIS IS IT.
I'M STRUCK BY THIS, BUT, UM, OVERALL IT SEEMS LIKE OUR NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESPONSE TIME, THAT SOMETHING OH, OKAY.
UM, BUT IT JUST, I'M INTERESTED IN THAT AND ALL THE REPORTS THAT WE'RE DOING.
SO DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION? YES.
IF O OVERALL CRIME IS DOWN, YES.
SO I'LL JUST KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT I HAVE.
MAY NOT BE IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET, BUT YEAH.
CRIME IS DOWN, UH, CITYWIDE AS OF MONDAY, AUGUST 10TH.
UM, IT'S DOWN A TOTAL CITYWIDE OF 7.46%.
I MEAN, I CAN BREAK IT DOWN FURTHER, BUT THAT'S THE HOLISTIC NUMBER.
SO LOOKING AT THAT, I WASN'T ABLE TO VIEW THE NUMBERS, UH, THIS, THIS TIME BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT, UM, UH, OVERALL CRIME IS GOING DOWN.
HOW DOES THAT CORRELATE TO ARREST ARE ARRESTS DOWN? UM, AND THEN IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW CRIME IS DOWN IF ARREST, HOW THAT RELATES TO ARREST, AND ALSO HOW THAT RELATES ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC LEVEL AS WELL TOO, PARTICULARLY BY RACE AND GEOGRAPHY WHERE PEOPLE ARE BEING ARRESTED IN THE CITY.
SO YOU WANNA KNOW IF THE OVERALL ARREST RATE IS DOWN IN THE, IN CITY? MM-HMM
SO, YOU KNOW, WE GET THESE NUMBERS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, VIOLENT CRIME IS DOWN, UM, OR WHATEVER.
UM, BUT WHEN WE LOOK HISTORICALLY, UM, I'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF DATA ANALYSIS AROUND ARRESTS AND NUMBERS.
THERE'S STILL A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF ARRESTS HAPPENING IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, AND CERTAIN PEOPLE,
SO, UM, I WAS WILLING TO KNOW, UM, IF, IF, UH, THE MAJOR COULD SPEAK TO THAT.
DID YOU GET AN ARREST REPORT? DON'T WE HAVE AN, LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T ABLE TO READ OVER IT.
I USUALLY DO AN ANALYSIS OF MY OWN.
SECTION FIVE IS THE ARREST REPORT.
AND JUST BOARD MEMBER HIGGINS, JUST TO, I WENT BACK THERE TO LOOK AT THE NOTES AND THE, AND THE BINDER AND FROM WHAT I SEE IS 2026 ARREST.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE A COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR OR THE YEARS BEFORE, BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE BOARD FEELS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A BRIEFING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN OBTAIN THAT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ARREST NUMBERS TO COMPARE TO LAST YEAR OR EVEN OTHER YEARS.
SO DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST TO SEE THAT? OR CAN WE JUST REQUEST IT? WE'LL JUST FOLLOW THE OFFICE CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
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THANK YOU.UH, IF NOTHING FURTHER ON THE, UH, MONTH, UH, IF NOTHING FURTHER ON THE, UM, MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORTS, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REPORT FROM, UH, OUTREACH SPECIALIST, UH,
I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF OUR RECENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, INCLUDING THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAD THIS SUMMER TO WELCOME TWO DALLAS WORKS SUMMER INTERNS, LEILANI AND CAMILA TO THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
THROUGHOUT THEIR INTERNSHIP, WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING THEM TO THE MISSION AND WORK OF OCPO AND GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE FIRSTHAND HOW COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN OUR OFFICE.
AS PART OF THAT EXPERIENCE, LEILANI AND CAMILA PARTICIPATED IN SEVERAL COMMUNITY EVENTS.
ONE OF THOSE EVENTS WAS THE SHARE THE SHOES EVENT AT GAUWEILER RECREATION CENTER, HOSTED BY THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT'S NORTHWEST NEIGHBORHOOD POLICE OFFICERS AND ENERGY TRANSFER.
IT WAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO, A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR INTERNS TO SEE COMMUNITY POLICING IN ACTION.
EACH CHILD WAS FITTED FOR A NEW PAIR OF SHOES BY DPD COMMAND STAFF, AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THE CHILDREN LEAVE HAPPY AND EXCITED WITH THEIR NEW SHOES.
EVENTS LIKE THIS DEMONSTRATE THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND RESIDENTS CAN HAVE.
OUR INTERNS ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT MOUNTED UNIT, WHERE THEY LEARNED MORE ABOUT ANOTHER ASPECT OF DPDS OPERATIONS AND HAD THE CHANCE TO INTERACT WITH OFFICERS AND LEARN ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE MOUNTED UNIT IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY.
I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES I'VE HAD TO WORK ALONGSIDE OUR CPOB MEMBERS AT COMMUNITY EVENTS.
ON JUNE 13TH, I ATTENDED THE 16TH ANNUAL JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION AT KB POLK RECREATION CENTER, HOSTED BY DISTRICT TWO BOARD MEMBER JONATHAN MAPLES.
I WAS, IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH RESIDENTS, SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT OCPO, AND BE PART OF A CELEBRATION THAT BROUGHT THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
THEN ON JUNE 26TH, I ATTENDED THE SECOND ANNUAL RESOURCE EVENT AT JUBILEE PARK COMMUNITY CENTER, WHERE I WAS ACCOMPANIED BY BOARD MEMBER JENNY KING.
WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT OCPO AND THE CPOB AND CONNECT RESIDENTS WITH AVAILABLE RESOURCES.
I APPRECIATE THE CONTINUED INVOLVEMENT OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
HAVING OUR BOARD MEMBERS PARTICIPATE ALONGSIDE OCPO STAFF HELPS STRENGTHEN OUR PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDES RESIDENTS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ROLE OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OVERALL, THESE EVENTS CONTINUE TO REINFORCE THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING PRESENT, BEING BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS AND MEETING RESIDENTS WHERE THEY ARE.
AND I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I LOVE INTERNS AND I LOVE MENTORING.
SO SUMMER INTERNS ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE.
UM, ARE THEY PURSUING, UH, A CRIMINAL JUSTICE OR A PUBLIC SAFETY CAREER PATH, DO YOU THINK? OR CIVIC AFFAIRS? UM, ONE OF 'EM IS, UM, SHE WAS ACCEPTED TO UTD AND IS DOING MECHANICAL ENGINEERING, AND THE OTHER ONE IS STILL ON THE FENCE AND SHE IS A LITTLE INTERESTED IN DPD, SO IT WAS DEFINITELY HELPFUL FOR HER TO DO THE RIDE-ALONGS.
WE ALSO DID REDMOND AT THE ACADEMY, WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN, BUT IT'S LIKE REAL LIFE SCENARIOS THAT THE RECRUITS HAVE TO, UM, PARTICIPATE IN.
AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH ANSWERING CALLS LIKE THE, IT'S A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CALL, UM, A TRESPASSING CALL.
AND, AND, UH, THE TRAINERS AT THE ACADEMY ACTUALLY PLAY THE LIKE PERSON WHO MADE THE CALL OR THE SUSPECT AND IT, IT, YEAH, IT, IT'S LIKE A REAL LIFE.
THEY'RE LIKE ANSWERING A REAL CALL.
SO REDMAN IS, UH, TYPICALLY WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL OFFICER WILL JUST PAT IT UP AND THE SCENARIO WILL USUALLY INVOLVE SOME
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TYPE OF, USUALLY SOME TYPE OF USE OF FORCE, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S HOW THEY'LL TRAIN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, USING THEIR, WHATEVER WEAPONS THEY'RE USING, WHETHER IT'S HANDS OR, OR WEAPONS HERE, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATELY.SO IT'S ACTUAL, I GUESS KIND OF AS REAL AS YOU CAN GET WITHOUT REALLY ANYBODY GETTING HURT.
SO THEIR LAST DAY WAS FRIDAY FOR THE SUMMER INTERNS, SO I WAS KIND OF SAD TO WALK IN AND NOT SEE THEM THIS MORNING.
BUT YEAH, THEY ALSO VISITED THE 3 1 1 CENTER, UM, AND THE 9 1 1 COMMUNICATION CENTER.
SO THAT WAS ALSO INTERESTING FOR LIKE SUMMER JOBS, YOU KNOW, UM, AND THEY ALSO DID A RIDE ALONG WITH, UH, THE DALLAS FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND THEY, UM, ALSO DID RIDEALONGS WITH DBD AS WELL.
UM, SO NEXT, UM, WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS OUR MEETING SCHEDULE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE BOARD MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH AT FIVE 30.
UH, THE, UH, AGENDA FOR TODAY INCLUDES DELIBERATION ON WHETHER TO MODIFY THE TIMING OF THE MEETINGS, UH, AND TAKE A TWO RECESSED MONTH IN JULY AND DECEMBER, OR MAINTAIN THIS CURRENT SCHEDULE FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027.
CURRENTLY, WE ONLY TAKE OFF JULY, IS THAT CORRECT? AND SO THE QUESTION IS FOR 2027, WE WANNA ALTER THE SCHEDULE SO THAT IT WILL BE, UH, A TWO MONTH RECESS IN JULY AND DECEMBER.
SAME MEETING DATE AND SAME MEETING TIME, YES.
OTHERWISE, AND THEN I JUST WANNA ASK A QUESTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
UM, IS THE, SINCE THEIR ADVISORY BOARD, ARE THEY PERMITTED TO OWN TO HAVE RECESS JULY AND DECEMBER? OR DO YOU HAVE TO, OKAY, THIS BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO SET ITS OWN SCHEDULE PROVIDED A ROOM IS AVAILABLE, YOU WANT TO CHANGE YOUR DAY FROM TUESDAY TO FRIDAY.
I'M JUST THROWING A DAY OUT THERE.
AS LONG AS THERE'S A ROOM AVAILABLE, YOU CAN DO THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTION
UH, JUST SECOND, A MOTION TO CHANGE THE SCHEDULE.
IF, ARE YOU GONNA DO IN TWO PARTS, SO LIKE TO TAKE TWO RECESS AND THEN THE TIME SECOND.
SO LIKE, CAN WE SAY WE KEEP THE SCHEDULE AS IS EXCEPT WE WILL, UM, UH, IN ADDITION TO DUBAI ALSO TAKE RECESS? YES, YOU COULD DO THAT.
I MOVE
IS THERE A SECOND?
SO I JUST WANNA ADD, UM, SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CONSIDERED.
UM, I THINK THAT, UM, THE TIME FOR THE STAFF, UM, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT TO BE CONSIDERED, WE DO HAVE TO USUALLY ADJUST TIME, UM, AS A RESULT HAVING THIS MEETING AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE COME IN AT EIGHT, SO USUALLY THE NEXT DAY OR ON FRIDAY, WE USUALLY HAVE TO FLEX.
AND I THINK WITH CONSIDERING ALSO LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS TO CONSIDER AS WELL, SOME OF THE OFFICERS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE OVER TIME FOR SOME THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, UNDER THE MAJOR.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
UM, BUT OF COURSE, WHATEVER TIME THAT THE BOARD DECIDES, WE'LL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
ARE YOU PROPOSING MOVING IT TO LIKE THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UM, YES.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN LEAVE HERE BY FIVE.
YEAH, GOOD LUCK HAVING THE, UH, UH, HAVING A, UH, OFFICE AVAILABLE, HAVING THIS POINT AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME, BUT I DON'T HAVE PROBLEM.
YEAH, I I, I'M, I'M STILL IN THE WORKING CLASS.
I, I CAN'T GIVE UP NO WORKING, UM, MEETING DURING THE DAY WON'T WORK FOR ME.
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WE'RE GONNA DO, YOU KNOW, TWO RECESSES, WHY NOT AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER OR SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER? HOLD, HOLD, HOLD ON.YEAH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO LONG.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF WORK TO CATCH UP ON.
SO LET ME, LET ME JUST ASK, UM, BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, UM, THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION OR YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER MOVING THE JUST THE TIME.
YES, I'M OKAY WITH THE RECESS.
I THINK THE RECESS MAKES SENSE.
UM, IT'S JUST THE TIME IT'S UP TO THE BOARD OF COURSE.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE STILL WORKING.
UM, I DID WANT TO JUST ADD THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD, WOULD GREATLY HELP WITH THE STAFF AS FAR AS OUR MEET OUR WORKDAY.
UM, AS FAR AS THE TIME OF THE MEETING TO CONSIDER.
SO, UM, FOR THE BOARD, WOULD IT, WELL, LET ME ASK YOU FIRST, UH, WOULD IT HELP EVEN IF WE MOVED IT UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEN THAT'S AT LEAST SOME LESS OVERTIME.
SO LET'S SAY WE MOVED IT UP TO FOUR OR FOUR 30 EVEN.
I THINK IT WOULD HELP, BUT I THINK IT ALL WOULD DEPEND ALSO FOR THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, WITH THEIR SCHEDULES, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE TEACHERS AND STUFF.
BUT YES, IT WOULD, IT WOULDN'T BEEN RECOMMENDED IF IT DIDN'T HELP YOU.
BUT SO EVEN IF WE MOVED IT UP BY AN HOUR, IT WOULD BE SOME USE TO DO AND FOR THE OFFICE OR IF WE COULD HAVE A SET AMOUNT OF LIKE, LENGTH TIME FOR THE MEETING, RIGHT? LIKE IF WE'RE GOING PAST, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED, I DISCUSSED WITH THE CHAIR PREVIOUSLY WAS THAT IF A MEETING IS SURPASSING TWO HOURS OR TWO HOURS AND A HALF, THAT WE WOULD TABLE THE REST OF THE AGENDA FOR THE RE REMAINDER.
'CAUSE WE HAVE BEEN HERE AND IT'S BEEN FOUR HOURS OR FIVE HOURS AND THOSE DAYS ARE USUALLY ROUGH, I WILL SAY.
UM, SO IT'S JUST FOR US TO BE MINDFUL, UM, IF WE ARE GONNA SURPASS TWO HOURS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST COURTESY OF EVERYONE, UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT.
I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH
I THINK WE OUGHT BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE.
HOWEVER, THERE COULD BE A OCCASIONAL CIRCUMSTANCE WHEN THERE'S A MAJOR ISSUE THAT NEEDS MORE DISCUSSION.
BUT I THINK OF THE GENERAL MATTER, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE MEETING DONE IN TWO HOURS.
I MEAN, DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, UH, THERE, DISTRICT SIX, I WOULD, UM, I, I COULD SEE THAT PART OF LIMITED TO TWO HOURS, BUT I LOVE THE POSITION.
I LOVE BEING ABLE TO HELP AND IF I HAD TO COME IN THE AREA, I WOULDN'T EVEN BE ANTICIPATED.
SO EVEN IF IT DID NEED TO SHORTEN THE TIME AND TAKE THE NEXT SITUATION, IF IT GOES, IF IT ENDS UP ONE OF THOSE DAYS, THAT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, YOU COULD DO JULY AND DECEMBER AND WHEN WE START AT FIVE 30, THAT MEANS WE'RE DONE BY SEVEN 30.
WE ALL THINGS TAKE THE REST OF IT IN THE NEXT MONTH.
AND SO THEN THAT BRINGS YOU TO THE FOREFRONT.
WOULD THAT MAKE, WOULD THINGS HAVE TO BE ARRANGED ACCORDING TO PRIOR? AS FAR AS THE INCIDENT STUFF, UM, THAT WOULD BE INVESTIGATING? I DON'T THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S JUST MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ENFORCING SOME RULES LIKE TIME LIMITS ON DISCUSSIONS.
UM, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP, UM, LIMITING THE, THE AMOUNT OF BACK AND FORTH.
I THINK COUNCIL, DOES THAT HAVE TIMEFRAMES AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS? I THINK THAT WOULD HELP.
AND IF SOMETHING IS TAKING MUCH LONGER TO GET TO, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR US TO TABLE IT SO WE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION, UM, FROM THE DEPARTMENT OR THE OFFICE, UM, BEFORE PROCEEDING.
UM, IF THE DISCUSSION IS GETTING LENGTHY, I THINK THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SO WITH THE, THE TROUBLE WOULD, OKAY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE JUST NEED TO STOP, PUT IN IT AND COME BACK.
SO THAT'S A THREE HOUR, NO, YOU, YOU, YOU GUYS NEED TO PREPARE YOUR BODIES TO START GETTING UP AT 4:00 AM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WON'T HURT SO BAD TO GO TO GO TO BED MIDNIGHT.
IT'S ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR ENERGY
AND SO I, YEAH, I, I, YEAH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
I I THINK MOST MEETINGS COULD END WITHIN TWO HOURS AND IF FOR SOME REASON THERE'S SOMETHING WE KNOW THAT'S GONNA TAKE MORE TIME, WE CAN, WE CAN SORT A PLAN FOR THAT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK, KEVIN? TWO COMMENTS, UM, TOWARDS THAT ONE? I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING KNOWLEDGE THAT IT'LL BE A TWO HOUR MEETING, BUT I DON'T WANT THAT TO LIMIT PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND THERE HAVE BEEN MONTHS WHERE WE'VE HAD MANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEY DESERVE TO HAVE THE AIRTIME.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS AT THE RISK OF BEING NAIVE, THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHERE I'M REALLY JUST NOT SURE.
AND SO I MIGHT ASK A DUMB QUESTION.
MY TEACHERS IN HIGH SCHOOL SAID, THERE'S NO DUMB QUESTION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU'RE NOT SURE AND YOU'RE, AND YOU DON'T WANNA, YOU WANNA APPEAR THOUGHTFUL IN YOUR QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING.
AND SO IT REALLY DOES, WE DO DESERVE MORE FACE TIME WITH EACH OTHER AND CONVERSATION.
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SO SINCE WE CAN'T DO THIS VIA EMAIL, I THINK WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THOSE TIMES.BUT I'M, I'M ALSO OKAY WITH LIMITING HAVING A, A MORE STRUCTURE AND I THINK AS THE BOARD GETS MORE EXPERIENCED WITH THE FLOW OF THE MEETING, I THINK WE CAN, WE'VE HAD VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF SHORTENING IT.
A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A SCRIPT WHICH OFFICE PROVIDES.
UM, I THINK THAT HELPS A LOT
UM, BUT I, I THINK A QUESTION THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM ANSWERING A QUESTION, A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
I THINK IT'S MORE SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND IT'S, IT SEEMS MORE LIKE A SPEECH AND IT'S 20 MINUTES AND WE'RE STILL GOING.
RIGHT? AND UM, OR LIKE SOMEBODY'S MAKING THE SAME POINT AND THERE'S THREE PEOPLE MAKING THE SAME POINT.
I THINK IT'S MORE OF THAT, UM, THAT USUALLY SOMETIMES ADDS TO, TO IT.
SO, SO WE'RE CONSIDERING I'VE SPOKE, SO PLEASE.
YEAH, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T SEE THE CAMERA.
MR. UM, FRIEDMAN, BRANDON FRIEDMAN SUPPORT.
UM, BRANDON FRIEDMAN, DISTRICT 14.
UH, I, I, I CAN'T DO THIS EARLIER.
I DO SUPPORT TIME LIMIT ON THE MEETINGS, UH, WHETHER WE SET IT AT TWO HOURS, THREE HOURS OR WHATEVER.
UM, I WOULD JUST ALSO SUGGEST ALONG WITH PERHAPS LIMITING INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER TIMES, WHICH IS DONE, YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL TO THE US CONGRESS.
WE ALSO, I THINK, NEED TO DEVELOP A, A CULTURE COLLECTIVELY OF WATCHING THE BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE BEFORE THE MEETING.
UM, I'M, I USUALLY, I ALWAYS TRY TO, I WAS ACTUALLY GUILTY OF IT TODAY AND ACTUALLY ASKED A QUESTION THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ANSWERED IF I HAD WATCHED THE VIDEO.
UM, BUT I THINK IF WE, IF EVERYBODY WATCHED ALL THE VIDEOS BEFORE WE GOT TO THE MEETING, I THINK THAT WOULD CUT DOWN ON A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONVERSATION.
MR. HIGGINS, WHERE DID YOU ALSO HAVE YOUR HAND UP? YEAH, UM, UH, I'M JUST LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION.
UM, I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO MOVING IT TO AN EARLIER TIME.
UM, REALITY IS, IS, YOU KNOW, AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE, I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO PUSHED FOR THIS BOARD AND THIS OVERSIGHT OFFICE TO BECOME A REALITY.
AND ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WAS THAT WE WANTED IT TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PEOPLE.
UM, AND THE PEOPLE WHO THIS WAS CREATED FOR AS A RESTORATIVE PRACTICE ARE PEOPLE WHO USUALLY CAN'T COME TO MEETINGS
AND SO, UM, I I, I'M PROUD THAT WE ARE ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL BOARDS, I THINK, IN THE CITY 'CAUSE OF THAT FACT.
SO, UM, I'M, FOR US FIGURING OUT A WAY TO STREAMLINE, MAKE THE MEETINGS SHORTER, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING HIGH PROFILE GOING ON OR IF THERE'S A ROOM OF A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT WANNA SPEAK, THEN WE JUST GOTTA DO WHAT WE GOTTA DO.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IF IT'S, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, LIKE, UM, SO THAT'S MY THING.
I MEAN, I THINK ONCE WE BEGIN TO START TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT HOW WE DO THAT, I MEAN THIS WHOLE ICE CONVERSATION, THE 2 87 G CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE WE ARE ACCESSIBLE AND WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME AND SPEAK AND HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO COMMENTS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, RIGHT? UH, SOME OF THESE THINGS, THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN A COUPLE YEARS IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS IN THE CITY, 'CAUSE THIS BOARD IS ACCESSIBLE AND TRANSPARENT AND MEETS AT A TIME WHEN THE PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE.
SO I JUST WANT US TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
OH, AND ANOTHER THING I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE BUDGET ISSUES, WHAT WE'RE HAVING IN THE CITY, UM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, LET'S REMEMBER WE ARE THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT BUDGETS ARE REAL, BUT WE CAN'T, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE MAKING OUR DECISIONS BASED ON BUDGETARY ISSUES WITH OVERTIME WITH THE POLICE.
WE GOT A JOB TO DO THAT'S, THAT SOMETIMES DOESN'T RUN COUNTER WITH THAT.
SO, UM, WHAT'S ON THE TABLE IS TWO BREAKS AND A SHORTER
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MEETING'S.THE ONLY MEETING'S STILL MEETING AT FIVE, THIRTY'S STILL MEETING AT FIVE 30, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, I THINK, UH, THAT, THAT THAT'LL WORK FOR ME AT, UH, ESPECIALLY AT TIME CHANGES THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WOULD BE DAYLIGHT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS? UM, SO I CAN'T, WAS I THE ONE WHO DID THE MOTION? I, I'VE FORGOTTEN.
UM, IF SO, I WILL AMEND THE MOTION.
UM, UH, WELL LET ME, BEFORE I DO THAT, LET ME, LET ME MAKE A COMMENT TO SEE, UM, UH, THE TEMPERATURE OF THE ROOM.
SO, UM, IF I WERE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT MEETINGS WOULD BE, UM, LIMITED TO TWO HOURS, UM, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT IF THERE'S A SPECIAL ISSUE OR SOMETHING WE CAN EXTEND THE MEETING WITH.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES, YEAH, IT'S THREE HOURS IS TOO
NO, BUT HERE'S I WANT SO JU UM, TEMPORARY CHAIR.
I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO NOTE THE EXACT, LIKE, LENGTH OF THE MEETING.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S MAKING IT TOO COMPLICATED.
JUST BECAUSE LIKE SOMETIMES AS FAR AS LIKE WHEN WE KNOW HOW MANY SPEAKERS, SOMETIME I'M TOLD THAT THE NIGHT BEFORE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A HUNDRED PEOPLE OR 60 PEOPLE.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A, A DEADLINE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT'S USUALLY RIGHT BEFORE THE START OF THE MEETING SO THEY CAN SIGN UP.
SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO NOTE THE TIME.
I THINK WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT IN OUR, YOU KNOW, JUST MENTALLY THAT HEY, LET'S TRY TO KEEP THE MEETING TO THAT TIMEFRAME.
WE COULD JUST DO FIVE 30 AND THEN JUST DO TWO RECESS, UM, JULY AND DECEMBER.
KEEP THE MEETING TIME AT FIVE 30.
AND THEN I GUESS ALSO KEEPING IT SECOND TUESDAY AS WELL.
I'M ASSUMING IT STILL WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
ANOTHER QUESTION CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT, UM, HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.
SO ARE, ARE WE ABLE TO, LIKE IF WE'RE HAVING A MEETING AND WE'RE SEEING THAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A FOUR HOUR, UM, MEETING, ARE WE ABLE TO JUST DETERMINE AND VOTE OR SIDE ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AT THAT TIME DURING THE MEETING? WELL, I, I THINK THAT WAS SORT OF WHAT THE DIRECTOR WAS ALLUDING TO, IS THAT THERE ARE SOME MEETINGS WHERE YOU DON'T FIND OUT UNTIL 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE THAT MAY BE, UH, A BUNCH OF SPEAKERS.
SO AS LONG AS WE DON'T SAY THIS MEETING WILL END AT SEVEN 30, WHEN THOSE LONGER MEETINGS OCCUR, IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.
IT'LL BE A LONGER MEETING, BUT SORT OF THE PRACTICE AND THE CULTURE OF THE BOARD WOULD BE TO TRY AND WRAP IT UP WITHIN TWO HOURS.
AND I CAN LET THE, THE BOARD KNOW AS WELL, SEND AN EMAIL.
I USUALLY SEND THE CHAIR AND LET THEM KNOW IF WE HAVE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM INTEL OR, UM, IF WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF, UM, I USUALLY INFORM THE CHAIR PRIOR TO THE MEETING THAT, BUT I CAN LET THE, THE FULL BOARD KNOW ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
THEN MAYBE I DON'T NEED TO AMEND MY MOTION AT ALL.
'CAUSE I THINK THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS JUST TO DO THE JULY AND DECEMBER AND KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE AS IS.
SO I THINK THE ORIGINAL MOTION STANDS AND ANY DISCUSSION, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT? SO THE MOTION WAS, UM, THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS TO KEEP OUR, OUR MEETINGS AS IS WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT WE WOULD IN ADDITION TO JULY AND DECEMBER AS A, UH, UM, A MONTH OFF.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, LET'S VOTE OR SO.
UH, DISTRICT TWO
UH, DISTRICT NINE IS NOT PRESENT.
DISTRICT 15 VACANT ON THE
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OKAY.SO, UM, NEXT, UM, UH, WE HAVE UPCOMING, UM, COMMITTEE POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD MEETINGS ON SEPTEMBER THE EIGHTH, AS YOU KNOW, AT NINE 30.
UM, AND UH, WITH THAT, UH, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY, UM, NON AGENDA PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ITEMS, NOT ON TODAY'S AGENDA, BUT WITH REGARD OUR JURISDICTION.
PLEASE BE REMINDED OF THE SAME PUBLIC COMMENT.
GUIDELINES MENTIONED EARLIER, RESPECT, COURTESY, RELEVANCE, ET CETERA.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE IN PERSON WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK SEEING NONE? UH, IS THERE ANYONE, UM, REMOTELY OR ON THE PHONE? HEARING NONE.
UM, UM, UH, BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE WE ADJOURN, MAKE SURE YOU LEAVE THE BINDERS AND THE PROCEDURE SHEETS, UM, BEHIND.
AND, UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN ANY? I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
UH, ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING AN HOUR AND 30 MINUTES.