[INAUDIBLE] YEAH, I THINK [INAUDIBLE]. YEAH. WELL, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
[Quality of Life, Arts and Culture Committee on August 17, 2026.]
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THE TIME IS 9:10, AND I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE.THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
SECOND. MOTION BEEN MADE AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALRIGHT. WELL, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THINGS JUST A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER.
HERE WE'RE GOING TO START ITEM A IS THE FERAL CAT FERAL AND COMMUNITY CAT OVERVIEW.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM B FIRST AND GET THAT ONE BRIEFED.
GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I'M MARTINE PHILIPPE. I SERVE AS DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
AND ONE MORE TIME. IS THIS BETTER? OKAY. THANK YOU.
AGAIN, I'M MARTINE PHILIPPE. I SERVE AS DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE. AND THIS MORNING I AM JOINED BY THE CHAIR OF OUR HOSPITALITY AND NIGHTLIFE TASK FORCE, TERRY LOWERY, AND OUR NIGHTTIME ECONOMY AND RESPONSIBLE HOSPITALITY MANAGER, RAFAEL TAMAYO.
AND WE ARE HERE RETURNING TO PRESENT UPDATES PERTAINING TO THE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE ORDINANCE PROPOSAL DRAFT PROPOSAL, WHICH I HOPE YOU RECEIVED VIA EMAIL ON THURSDAY LAST WEEK.
AND OF COURSE, IT IS INCLUDED AS AN APPENDIX OF OUR PRESENTATION AND LINKED LIVE ON THE AGENDA.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S SEE HERE. FORGIVE US. AS WE WERE NOT AWARE WE'D BE CALLED UP.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'M INTRODUCING US AND THEN PASSING TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR GRACEY. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AGAIN.
THE TASK FORCE WAS ESTABLISHED LAST OCTOBER TO MODERNIZE OUTDATED REGULATORY REGULATIONS ABOUT HOSPITALITY AND TO RESPOND TO CONCERNS FROM BOTH OPERATORS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
OPERATORS EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION OVER UNCLEAR EXPECTATIONS AND INCONSISTENT ENFORCEMENT.
LONG TIME STANDING AND RESPECTED VENUES LIKE REVELERS HALL AND BISHOP ARTS DISTRICT, AND FREEMAN AND DEEP ELLUM WERE SUDDENLY BEING REPRIMANDED BY ENFORCEMENT FOR HOW THEY HAD OPERATED FOR MANY YEARS.
SOME OF THESE REFERRED TO CHARGING A COVER FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
RESIDENTS HIGHLIGHTED NOISE, SAFETY AND LATE NIGHT IMPACTS.
AND THOSE SEEM TO INCREASE AS THE NIGHT TIME SCENE GREW IN BISHOP ARTS.
THIS INITIATIVE REPRESENTS TEN MONTHS OF COLLABORATION BETWEEN STAFF, INDUSTRY STAKEHOLDERS, ARTS AND CULTURE LEADERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WE MET ON A WEEKLY BASIS SINCE NOVEMBER TO DEVELOP THE CONCEPT OF AN ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE TO BRING CLARITY, FLEXIBILITY, AND UPDATED STANDARDS THAT REFLECT HOW VENUES OPERATE TODAY.
THE SCOPE OF THIS WAS TO REPLACE OUTDATED POLICIES, PERMITTING VENUES TO CHARGE A COVER THAT SUPPORTS THE EXPENSE OF LIVE MUSIC, AND ALSO TO PROVIDE CLARITY THROUGH OBJECTIVE SOUND EXPECTATIONS THAT ARE PRACTICAL TO THAT OF A MAJOR CITY'S NIGHTLIFE.
THE TASK FORCE FIRST BRIEFED THE COMMITTEE IN MARCH, AND STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO FURTHER DEVELOP THE CONCEPT WITH CONSIDERATION TO EXISTING POLICY AND AVAILABLE CITY RESOURCES. NEXT SLIDE.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS ACROSS THE BOARD FELT THAT PORTIONS OF THE BRIEFING HAD DRIFTED A BIT TOO FAR FROM THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS ORIGINAL INTENT AND SOME OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND WE NEEDED TO WORK TOGETHER FOR BETTER ALIGNMENT.
SO WE WERE DIRECTED, OF COURSE, TO RECONVENE WITH THE TASK FORCE TO ENSURE THAT BOTH THE SPIRIT AND THE PRACTICALITY OF THE ORDINANCE WERE PRESERVED WITH FURTHER DIRECTION TO RETURN HERE ONCE AGAIN WITH AN ALIGNED ORDINANCE DRAFT, WHICH WE HAVE IN THIS EFFORT OF REBUILDING CLARITY,
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BALANCE AND STAKEHOLDER TRUST IN THE ORDINANCE FRAMEWORK.THE OAC HAS CONTINUED DEDICATED SUPPORT FROM THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS, OUR SISTER DEPARTMENTS AT CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, DALLAS FIRE AND RESCUE, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, DPD, AND OF COURSE, CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES. NEXT SLIDE. SINCE JUNE, CITY STAFF AND A SMALLER GROUP OF TASK FORCE MEMBERS HAVE MET WEEKLY, RESULTING IN MEANINGFUL REFINEMENTS TO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT THE ORDINANCE WAS CLARIFIED TO BETTER EXPRESS THE PURPOSE, EXPECTATIONS, AND APPLICABILITY OF THE ORDINANCE. EXCESSIVE OR REDUNDANT REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS WERE REDUCED, KEEPING THE ORDINANCE WORKABLE FOR BOTH OPERATORS AND ENFORCING DEPARTMENTS.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE ENTIRE PREAMBLE TO THIS CHAPTER HAS BEEN REFURBISHED TO NOW BETTER REFLECT THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY OPERATORS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, EMPHASIZING AND CELEBRATING CULTURAL VITALITY AND SAFETY.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU COMPARE THE DIFFERENCES IN THE OPENING SENTENCE WHICH READ, THE PURPOSE OF THIS CHAPTER IS TO REGULATE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES IN A MANNER THAT BALANCES CULTURAL AND ECONOMIC VITALITY WITH THE PROTECTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY, NEIGHBORHOOD LIVABILITY, AND THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF RESIDENTS, VISITORS AND ESTABLISHMENT PATRONS AND EMPLOYEES.
NEIGHBORHOOD LIVABILITY AND THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF RESIDENTS, VISITORS, PATRONS AND EMPLOYEES".
IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THE PARAMETERS DEFINING THIS SCALE OF ENTERTAINMENT WERE CLEAR AND MANAGEABLE.
TO FURTHER ELABORATE, INCLUDING THE WORD MAJORITY AHEAD OF THE PHRASE, PATRONS SEATED INDICATES FLEXIBILITY FOR OCCASIONAL PATRON MINGLING NEAR THE BAR, OR PATRONS ADMIRING THE ENTERTAINMENT ON THE RETURN TRIP FROM THE RESTROOM, SUBSTITUTING NO DESIGNATED DANCE FLOOR FOR NO DANCING.
ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE OPERATOR CAN'T ALWAYS KEEP THE OCCASIONAL PATRON FROM PARTAKING IN DANCE.
ADDITIONALLY, SECURITY IS NO LONGER A DETERMINING FACTOR.
ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY HAS BEEN BROADLY DEFINED AS LIVE PERFORMANCES PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC.
ACKNOWLEDGING THE CREATIVITY OF THE INDUSTRY.
THE CITY WILL PROVIDE EXAMPLES BUT WILL NOT LIMIT VENUES TO THOSE EXAMPLES.
CHURCHES AND THEATERS HAVE BEEN EXEMPTED FROM THIS CHAPTER.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OPERATIONAL STANDARDS WERE EVALUATED TO REMOVE BURDENSOME OR REDUNDANT REQUIREMENTS, KEEPING SAFETY AND FEASIBILITY CENTRAL IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY, THESE OPERATIONAL STANDARDS WERE SIMPLIFIED TO HAVE ONE TRAINED MANAGER ON DUTY AT ALL HOURS OF ENTERTAINMENT. TO SIMPLIFY WHAT THE CITY DEFINES AS ACCREDITED TRAINING, OUR CITY PARTNERS HAVE AGREED TO OFFER FREE TRAINING WITHIN THE QUARTERLY WORKSHOPS TO ENSURE ALL ITEMS OF CONCERN HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
IT WILL COVER STRATEGIES IN CROWD MANAGEMENT, SECURITY, DE-ESCALATION, NOISE ABATEMENT, FIRE SAFETY, EMERGENCY RESPONSE, PARKING MANAGEMENT, AND INTERACTIONS WITH INTOXICATED PERSONS.
ALL FIRST AID REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND HAS A SIMPLE BASELINE EXPECTATION OF MANAGEMENT BEING PREPARED WITH A PROTOCOL IN CASES OF MEDICAL EMERGENCY AS WELL AS AN INCIDENT LOG. NEXT SLIDE. EIGHT. IN ADDITION TO THOSE MAJOR ITEMS UNDER REFINEMENT, WE HAVE THE SOUND POLICIES AND OBJECTIVE DECIBEL LIMITS.
THE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE INCLUDED ITS OWN ARTICLE OF SOUND POLICIES THAT SUPPORTED A MODERN NIGHTLIFE BY PROVIDING OBJECTIVE DECIBEL LIMITS THAT MADE THE PERCEPTION OF OBTAINING A LICENSE BENEFICIAL. IN JUNE, WITH CONCERN TO ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES, STAFF SUGGESTED THE CONCEPT OF INITIATING THE NEW PROPOSED SOUND POLICIES AS A PILOT PROGRAM IN DEEP ELLUM ONLY BASED ON ITS SUCCESS, THE POLICIES WOULD BE ADJUSTED AND EXPANDED IN GEOGRAPHIC APPLICABILITY ACCORDINGLY.
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CITYWIDE TO ALL VALID LICENSE HOLDERS. THIS PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN REIMAGINED IN A WAY THAT SIMPLIFIES IT FOR BOTH OPERATORS TO UNDERSTAND, AND THEN FUNCTIONALITY AND ENFORCEMENT.INDOOR AND OUTDOOR STANDARDS, WHICH WERE PREVIOUSLY ADDRESSED SEPARATELY, HAVE BEEN MERGED TOGETHER.
ADDITIONALLY, ALL OF THE HOURS OF THE DAY HAVE AN APPROPRIATE DECIBEL LEVEL, AS NOTED ON THE TABLE, SO THOSE DECIBEL LEVELS WILL HAVE NO ALIGNMENT WITH THOSE HOURS OF THE DAY, AS NOTED ON THE TABLE.
AND THIS CLOSES THE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYTHING TO BE DEEMED AS SUBJECTIVE AS WE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF THE METRICS IN THE ADDED NONRESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY LEGACY STATUS PROTECTION.
THE ORDINANCE WILL HONOR THE ASSIGNED DECIBEL LIMIT AT TIME OF ORIGINAL APPLICATION SUBMISSION, REGARDLESS OF NEW RESIDENTIAL USES MOVING INTO THE ADJACENCY RANGE OF 330FT SHOULD A NEW BUSINESS LATER MOVE INTO THE PROPERTY AND APPLY FOR AN AN ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE, THE NEW BUSINESS WILL ADHERE TO THE DECIBEL LIMITS LIMITED FOR RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY.
EVERYTHING'S STILL BASED ON TIME, DAY OF THE WEEK AND RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY OF A 330 FOOT THRESHOLD.
HOWEVER, TO AVOID CONFUSION WITH LICENSE TIERS, THE VENUES WILL NOW BE CLASSIFIED UNDER LEVELS, HOLIDAYS AND THE DAY BEFORE HOLIDAYS WILL BE RECOGNIZED AS WEEKENDS, MATCHING THOSE SET OF THE VARIOUS SETS OF DECIBEL LIMITS.
NEXT SLIDE NINE. THE TIERED LICENSE SYSTEM WAS BROUGHT BACK.
IT WAS SIMPLIFIED AND RECALIBRATED TO APPLY ONLY WHERE OPERATIONAL CONCERN TRULY EXISTS AVOIDING UNNECESSARY REGULATION AS IN THE ORIGINAL TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION. THIS MATRIX IS ORGANIZED AROUND VENUES BASED ON THREE FACTORS THE VENUE TYPE, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, AND THE CAPACITY LEVELS.
THE PURPOSE IS TO MATCH OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO ACTUAL OPERATIONAL IMPACTS, WHERE, RATHER THAN RELYING ON ONE SIZE FITS ALL, FIXED ASSEMBLY, HYBRID AND AMPLIFIED PERFORMANCE REFLECT HOW PEOPLE USE THE SPACE, WHETHER IT'S PRIMARILY SEATED, SUCH AS A THEATER EXPERIENCE OR IF IT'S MIXED OR STANDING WITH AMPLIFIED SOUND.
WHILE THIS VERSION BRINGS US CLOSER TO THE ORIGINAL TASK FORCE CONCEPT, IT IS DIFFERENT IN THE SENSE THAT THE AMBIENT TIER HAS BEEN REMOVED, AVOIDING REGULATION IN SPACES THAT DO NOT POSE RISK OR CONCERN.
AS THESE FACTORS INCREASE, LARGER CROWDS LATER HOURS AMPLIFIED PERFORMANCE.
THE VENUE CLASSIFICATIONS SHIFT SIGNALING HIGHER REVIEW AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.
THE LOWER TABLE ON THIS CHART SUMMARIZES THE THREE TIERS.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE TO KIND OF BREAK THIS OUT, THE CHART IS ORGANIZED BY THE THREE OBJECTIVE MEASURES.
THE FIRST IS BY VENUE TYPE. DOWN THE FIRST COLUMN, THE FIXED ASSEMBLY.
THE HYBRID WHERE YOU HAVE A MIX OF BOTH AND THEN AMPLIFIED PERFORMANCE.
NEXT ON THE ON THE COLUMNS ACROSS IT COMPARES THEM ACROSS THREE TIME PERIODS FROM SIX IN THE MORNING TILL MIDNIGHT, FROM MIDNIGHT TILL 2 A.M., AND FROM 2 A.M. UNTIL 6 A.M.
WITHIN EACH TIME PERIOD THE VENUES ARE FURTHER SORTED BY CAPACITY, WITH RANGES FROM THE SMALLEST BEING UNDER 200 PEOPLE TO THE LARGEST CATEGORY BEING OVER 1000 PEOPLE.
EACH COMBINATION OF VENUE TYPE, HOURS OF ENTERTAINMENT AND CAPACITY FITS UNDER A LICENSED TIER TAILORED TO FIT THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THE OPERATION. THE SECOND CHART DESCRIBES THE THREE LICENSED TYPES AND HOW STANDARDS FOR SECURITY WILL INCREASE WITH THEM.
TIER A, GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS SEATED PERFORMANCE OR SMALL AMPLIFIED ENTERTAINMENT WOULD HAVE A BASELINE OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THAT APPLY TO ALL TIERS, ALL TYPES. IT WOULD INCLUDE HAVING A TRAINED MANAGER PRESENT.
KEEPING AN INCIDENT LOG, TELEPHONE ACCESS, EXTERIOR LIGHTING, UNLAWFUL CONDUCT PROHIBITED AND REMOVAL OF INTOXICATED PATRONS. MOVING INTO TIER B WITH NIGHTLIFE ORIENTED OPERATIONS, THEY WOULD HAVE THE SAME REQUIREMENTS AS TIER A WITH THE ADDITION OF PROVIDING THE CITY WITH A SECURITY PLAN USING A CITY PROVIDED TEMPLATE.
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AT TIER C, YOU HAVE LARGER CAPACITIES OR AFTER HOURS ENTERTAINMENT.THESE WOULD MEET THE SAME REQUIREMENTS AS LISTED ABOVE, WITH THE ADD ON OF A FLOOR PLAN INDICATING POSITIONING OF SECURITY PERSONNEL AND ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY, AS WELL AS SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.
THE TIERS SHOW WHICH CATEGORIES FALL UNDER EACH OPERATIONAL PROFILE, HELPING CONNECT THE VENUES CHARACTERISTICS TO ITS APPROPRIATE SCALED REVIEW AND REGULATORY FRAMEWORK. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
SO WE HAVE SPLIT OUR NEXT STEPS IN THE SHORT TERM AND THE LONG TERM FOR YOUR AWARENESS.
THE GROUP HAS COMPLETED THE COLLABORATIVE REVISIONS NECESSARY TO THE ORDINANCE DRAFT.
WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMITTEE TODAY, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE ACTION TO COUNCIL TO THE FULL BODY PRESENTING THIS ORDINANCE DRAFT THAT REPRESENTS THE ALIGNMENT WITH TASK FORCE'S RECOMMENDATIONS. ONCE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, WE ANTICIPATE A 90 DAY TIMELINE BEFORE EFFECTIVE AND ADDITIONAL 90 DAYS BEFORE ENFORCEABLE IN TERMS OF THIS LICENSE. IN THAT TIME, OUR NEXT STEPS INCLUDE PARTNERING WITH THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO UPDATE MINIMUM FLOOR AREA REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT ACCESSORY USES.
THIS ENSURES THE CODE TRULY SUPPORTS A VIBRANT HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY.
WE'LL COMPLETE ALL KEY SUPPORTING MATERIALS FOR THE ORDINANCE, INCLUDING THE APPROVAL APPLICATION, ROLLOUT TEMPLATES, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR GUIDE BOOK, AND A FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS PAGE.
THESE TOOLS WILL HELP OPERATORS CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THEIR EXPECTATIONS.
ONCE THE FEE STUDY IS COMPLETE, WE WILL INCORPORATE THOSE FINDINGS INTO THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE FEES ARE FAIR, CONSISTENT, AND DATA DRIVEN. AND FINALLY, WE'LL IDENTIFY APPROPRIATE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES AND BEGIN ORGANIZING QUARTERLY WORKSHOPS.
THESE WILL HELP OPERATORS STAY COMPLIANT AND PROMOTE CONSISTENT BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE CITY.
LOOKING AHEAD, WE'LL WORK TOWARD DEFINING ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, BASED ON THE DATA THAT'S COLLECTED THROUGH THE INITIAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
THAT INFORMATION WILL HELP US TAILOR STRATEGIES TO EACH OF THE AREAS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, POTENTIAL ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS. UNIQUE NEEDS.
AND EACH YEAR AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE'LL CONDUCT A FORMAL REVIEW OF THE ORDINANCE, MAKING REVISIONS AS NEEDED TO ENSURE THAT CONTINUED GROWTH, SUCCESS AND RELEVANCE IS POSSIBLE. LASTLY, WE DO NEED TO ESTABLISH A DEDICATED NIGHTLIFE HOSPITALITY ADVISORY COMMISSION.
NEXT SLIDE. WE WANT TO, AGAIN, ALWAYS THANK NOT ONLY THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS AND CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO ARE ATTENDING TODAY IN SUPPORT OF OUR PRESENTATION AND THIS DRAFT LICENSE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT IN THIS ENDEAVOR.
WE'VE NOTED ALL OF OUR SISTER DEPARTMENTS HERE ON THIS SLIDE, AS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY, AND WE ALL HAVE A SHARED GOAL OF ENSURING THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS DEFENSIBLE, EQUITABLE IN THE WAY IT ROLLS OUT AND IMPLEMENTABLE FOR US AND STAFF SO THAT WE CAN SET OUR OPERATORS UP FOR SUCCESS AND ALSO STRENGTHEN PUBLIC SAFETY, OF COURSE, AS A PRIORITY AND IMPROVE NEIGHBORHOOD QUALITY OF LIFE ACROSS OUR SISTER DEPARTMENTS.
SO I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE NEW SISTER IN TOWN, OUR DIVISION AND DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE LEARNED QUITE A BIT FROM YOU THIS LAST YEAR IN SERVICE AND WORKING WITH YOU.
SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WHAT YOU'VE CONTRIBUTED IN TIME AND SUPPORT.
NEXT SLIDE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO, IN ADDITION TO THE CITY STAFF THAT HAS WORKED SO DILIGENTLY WITH US SINCE LAST NOVEMBER THE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE THAT SIGNED ON FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE OVER IN MARCH, AND A HARD CORE GROUP OF THEM HAVE HUNG WITH US THROUGH THE SUMMER.
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IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT WAS BROUGHT IN MARCH. AND IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT OVER WHAT WAS BROUGHT IN JUNE.I THINK IT WAS ABLE TO GET A CONSENSUS AND BRING US CLOSER TOGETHER TO HAVE A REALLY NICE BASELINE TO MOVE FORWARD AND SUPPORT THIS INDUSTRY AS IT DESERVES. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK THE PEOPLE IN THE TASK FORCE THAT ARE HERE, IF THEY WOULD, PLEASE STAND. DEDICATED GROUP OF PEOPLE.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH THEM. THANK YOU TERRY.
ALL RIGHT. IN CONCLUSION, AT THIS TIME, WE THANK YOU, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS MORNING AND OUR WELCOMING ANY OF YOUR FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONE, YOUR PATIENCE AND, AND ALL OF THAT AND YOUR, YOUR DETERMINATION.
I KNOW WE'VE SENT THIS BACK AND FORTH A FEW TIMES AND THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING THROUGH THE SUMMER, YOU AND YOUR TEAM WORKING THROUGH THE SUMMER TO TRY TO GET TO SOME FORM OF WHERE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE WHERE WE, WE DON'T ALL WIN, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN MOVE FORWARD AND CAN BEGIN MAKING THE CITY BETTER. SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN UP QUESTIONS. I'LL START ON MY RIGHT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. TERRY, I KNOW YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT SOME PEOPLE WEREN'T EXPECTING IT TO COME BACK, BUT YOU'VE BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK AT CITY HALL ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE.
BUT I APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU ALL PUT IN AND THE THE EXTRA TIME THAT DAMANI SPECIFICALLY WORKED WITH ME TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF MY CONCERNS. I, I WANTED TO JUST GET SOME CLARITY ABOUT A FEW THINGS ON THE AMBIENT ENTERTAINMENT PIECE. WHAT ABOUT THE RESTAURANTS WHO FIT INTO ALL OF THAT, THAT STILL OPERATE AFTER MIDNIGHT CURRENTLY? SO THEY FIT ALL OF THEY, THEY CHECK ALL THE BOXES, BUT THEY DO NOT CEASE OPERATIONS AT MIDNIGHT.
A COUPLE EXAMPLES MOXIE. DRAGONFLY. WE HAVE SOME SOME ESTABLISHMENTS THAT, THAT, THAT DON'T NECESSARILY STOP AT MIDNIGHT.
AND WHAT WOULD THAT MAKE THEM IN COMPLIANT? WOULD THAT PUT THEM INTO A DIFFERENT CATEGORY? HOW IS THAT HANDLED? IT WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED. WHAT'S THAT? THEY WOULDN'T.
I MEAN THEY WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED. THEY WOULDN'T BE NON-COMPLIANT.
IT STATES THE MAJORITY OF PATRONS REMAIN SEATED INSTEAD OF NO DANCING, NO DESIGNATED DANCE FLOOR, NO FEES ASSOCIATED FOR THE ENTRANCE. ENTERTAINMENT NOT ADVERTISED AS AN ATTRACTION CONCLUDES BY MIDNIGHT.
ELEMENTS OF SECURITY NO LONGER RELEVANT. THOSE WERE THE CLARIFICATIONS AND CHANGES LIKE SDK, FOR INSTANCE, THEY HAVE A LIVE DJ AND A PRETTY IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE IN A PLACE OTHER THAN A RESTAURANT, BUT IT IS CLEARLY A RESTAURANT AND THEY, THEY OPERATE TILL 1 A.M., FOR INSTANCE.
SO I'M JUST, I'M ASKING IF YOU CHECK ALL OF THE BOXES, BUT YOU'RE NOT CEASED BY MIDNIGHT.
IS THAT. SO THEY JUST NEED TO STOP THEIR MUSIC? ESSENTIALLY IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDS OF THE THRESHOLDS NOTED.
AND IF NOT, THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THEM TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PERMITTING PROCESS JUST TO SO THEY COULD OPERATE NORMALLY THROUGH THE 1:00 HOUR. THEY CAN OPERATE NORMALLY THROUGH THEIR WHATEVER THEIR END OF OPERATION HOUR IS.
WELL, NORMALLY IS WITH IS WITH A DJ. WELL, THEY WOULD NEED THEIR PERMIT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. OKAY. SO COULD THEY OPERATE WITH THEIR DJ? ESSENTIALLY, IN THIS CASE, YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THE PERMIT WOULD BE NECESSARY JUST FOR THEM TO HAVE ONE HOUR OF THE ENTERTAINMENT, BECAUSE THEY TECHNICALLY FALL INTO THE CRITERIA ELSEWHERE.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF, IF THIS IS AN ARBITRARY TIME DEADLINE THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT HAVING TO UNINTENTIONALLY BE PUNITIVE TO, TO BUSINESSES THAT ARE JUST OPERATING THEIR NORMAL WAY.
YEAH. SO THAT'S PART OF THE DEFINITION OF AMBIENT.
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YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO GET AN ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE.BUT YOU'RE RIGHT BECAUSE IT SAYS IF YOUR ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES LAST PAST MIDNIGHT, THEN YOU WOULD BE CAPTURED BY THE ORDINANCE AND YOU WOULD NEED TO GET YOUR ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE. OKAY. I DON'T NECESSARILY LOVE THAT, THAT THIS IS KIND OF WHY I WANTED THE CLARITY.
I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS ONE HOUR OF THEIR BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS CHANGES THE FACT THAT WHO YOU ALL WERE TRYING TO MAKE THIS NOT PERTAIN TO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT IS JUST ONE HOUR OF OPERATION, HOW THEY WOULD BE LUMPED INTO IT.
AND I ONLY HAVE A FEW THAT I GOT EXAMPLES OF, FROM AI THIS MORNING.
BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLENTY MORE. AND THAT WAS JUST IN THIS IMMEDIATE VICINITY VICINITY. AND SO I, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE THE WEEKEND OR WHAT'S GOING ON GLORIOUS, SOMETIMES THE DALLAS LOCATIONS WILL ALSO OPEN UP A LITTLE LATER OR STAY OPEN LATER, ETC..
SO I'M JUST, JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT ALL WITH A BROAD BRUSH.
I'LL MOVE ON AND I CAN TALK WITH STAFF TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING ON THAT PIECE.
ON SLIDE SEVEN, WHAT DOES REVISED TO A MEDICAL RESPONSE ONLY MEAN? WHAT WAS THE REVISION? ORIGINALLY THERE WAS LANGUAGE INCLUDED THAT THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR SPECIFIC FIRST AID MEDICAL KITS.
PERFECT. THANK YOU. ON SLIDE EIGHT THE NONRESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY STATUS HAS BEEN GRANTED TO LONG STANDING RESPONSIBLE OPERATORS. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT THAT MEANS? THAT STATUS MEANS AND HOW IT'S DETERMINED? THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND AGENT OF CHANGE AND NEW BUSINESSES MOVING IN.
SO THIS WAS OUR WAY OF CRAFTING ESSENTIALLY JUST BEING ABLE TO HONOR WHAT THE ASSIGNED DECIBEL LIMIT AT THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION SUBMISSION WAS REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAVE CHANGED IT LATER ON AND WITHIN THE ADJACENCY RANGE OF 330FT. SO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU GET GRANTED THE LONG STANDING RESPONSIBLE OPERATOR, NOT THE GRANDFATHERED IN, BUT HOW ARE YOU GRANTED THE STATUS? LIKE IT SEEMS DISCRETIONARY AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE IS A MATRIX IN PLACE FOR WHAT THAT DISCRETION IS GOING TO BE GUIDED BY.
AND THEN ALSO IF WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR NEW OPERATORS OR FOR NEW TO, TO EVENTUALLY ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ESTABLISH THAT STATUS. LAURA MORRISON CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS AND YOU'RE OPERATING UNDER NON RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY DECIBEL LEVELS BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET YOUR PERMIT, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTIAL ADJACENCY, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE ACCORDING TO THOSE DECIBEL LEVELS, EVEN IF LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD OR YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MOVES WITHIN 330FT OF YOUR ESTABLISHMENT. THIS IS HELPFUL FOR PLACES LIKE LOWER GREENVILLE THAT.
AS LONG AS YOU KEEP YOUR RENEWALS CURRENT, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE UNDER THOSE DECIBEL LEVELS.
PERFECT. AWESOME. SLIDE NINE. AND THAT, THAT GOES FOR, FOR CURRENT, I MEAN, FOR NEW AS WELL, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF WORDED WHERE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S LONG STANDING, BUT LIKE, IF YOU WERE TO ALSO NOW AND THEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW RESIDENTIAL COMES IN, IT'S ALSO, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET INTO THAT STATUS AS WELL.
YES. AS LONG AS YOU'RE AS LONG AS YOUR LICENSE DOESN'T LAPSE.
SO I WOULD SAY AS LONG AS YOU KEEP UP ON YOUR RENEWALS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
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EXAMPLES OF BUSINESSES SPECIFICALLY ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ESTABLISHMENTS SO THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF A BASELINE TO UNDERSTAND A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE OF THOSE BUSINESSES. ABSOLUTELY. ON SLIDE 11, SHORT TERM ON THE SHORT TERM, NEXT STEPS. THERE'S A PIECE THAT SAYS COORDINATE WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO AMEND THE CODE FOR THE FLOOR, THE MINIMUM FLOOR AREA REQUIREMENTS. IS THAT GOING TO BE DONE TO BE PASSED WITH THIS? OR ARE Y'ALL LOOKING FOR THIS TO BE A FUTURE CODE AMENDMENT? THAT WILL NOT, THAT WILL BE A LONGER PROCESS.SO THAT WON'T BE PASSED WITH THIS. AND THEN ON THE LONG TERM, NEXT STEPS I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, JUST TO BRING QUARTERLY UPDATES FROM THE PILOT BACK TO QUALITY OF LIFE, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF MONITOR WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE OVER THE NEXT YEAR BEFORE PERMANENT IMPLEMENTATION. AND LAST IS UNDER FEES SECTION B.
A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHEN WILL THE FEE AMOUNTS BE ESTABLISHED? WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH A VENDOR TO ESTABLISH YOU KNOW, THAT FEE, BUT IT'S, IT'LL BE THE RESULTS OF THE FEE STUDY.
AND I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TIMELINE, BUT.
WE'LL HAVE THAT BEFORE Y'ALL ARE ASKING FOR US TO PASS.
TO HAVE IT BEFORE IT BECOMES IMPLEMENTED AND ENFORCEABLE.
WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED BEFORE WE PASS IT, BEFORE WE PASS IT, NOT BEFORE IT'S IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED FOR WHAT, 90 DAYS, I BELIEVE 90 DAYS AND THEN ENFORCEABLE IN 180.
YEAH. SO I, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE WE TOOK A VOTE TO PASS ON IT.
OKAY. AND THEN ON THE CHANGE FEE, IF THERE'S IS IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR ERROR? OR IF IT'S SOMEONE'S FIRST TIME APPLYING FOR A LICENSE AND THEY FILL OUT ANY INFORMATION WRONG OR JUST KIND OF GOING THROUGH A NEW PROCESS, IS THERE GOING TO BE A PENALTY FOR CHANGES LIKE THAT? ARE MORE TECHNICAL OR CLARIFYING, OR IS THAT GOING TO BE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH PERMITTING STAFF TO CORRECT THOSE? OR WILL THERE BE THIS FEE IMPOSED EVERY TIME THAT A CHANGE IS NEEDED? THERE WOULDN'T BE A FEE IF YOU NEEDED TO MAKE CHANGES TO YOUR APPLICATION, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A LEARNING PROCESS. JUST TO CHANGE YOUR STATUS.
STAFF WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO GET TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN AND CHANGE. YOU KNOW, IF THEY GET A NEW PHONE NUMBER, IF MANAGEMENT CHANGES THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, IT TAKES STAFF TIME TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES IN THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE ANTICIPATE THAT BEING A MUCH SMALLER FEE JUST BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE AS MUCH OF A PROCESS TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES TO THE FILE. PERFECT. WELL, THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK.
AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS WHAT I TRULY SEE POLICY WORK TO BE IS A BACK AND FORTH COLLABORATION NOT ACCEPTING THE SAME THING THAT COMES, BUT WORKING TOWARDS A SOLUTION THAT'S VIABLE THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE MINIMAL IMPACT TO THOSE THAT I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE.
I HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY SPECIFICALLY.
AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE TIME TO WORK THROUGH THESE ISSUES.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, CHAIR WEST. THANK YOU, CHAIR.
AND I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO YOU FOR CONTINUING TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY ON YOUR COMMITTEE.
I WANT TO START BY THANKING ONCE AGAIN TERRY.
YOU'VE, YOU'VE REALLY LED HERE WITH A HEAVY LIFT AND WORKING WITH OUR TASK FORCE MEMBERS REPRESENTING NEIGHBORHOODS, SMALL BUSINESSES, THEATERS, RESTAURANTS, AND MORE.
AND I WANT TO JOIN THE CHAIR GRACEY TO ESPECIALLY THANK THE WHOLE TASK FORCE AS WELL.
DAMANI, ABEL, DIANA. CHELSEA, JOHN, OF COURSE, LAURA MORRISON AND MEGAN WEIMER, WHO DID A LOT OF THE DRAFTING AND THE REST OF THE CITY STAFF WHO'VE BEEN MEETING EVERY WEEK DURING COUNCIL RECESS TO MAKE THESE IMPORTANT UPDATES. SO I BELIEVE THE ORDINANCE IS MUCH CLOSER NOW TO WHAT THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDED, THANKS TO YOUR WORK OVER THE SUMMER. I'M GLAD TO SAY MY OFFICE AND I HAVE RECEIVED OVERWHELMING POSITIVE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE NEW VERSION.
I REALLY. RAPHAEL, YOU READ THE REDRAFT OF THE OPENING STATEMENT, AND I REALLY LOVE HOW THAT SEEMS MORE COLLABORATIVE AND LESS LIKE A CODE ENFORCEMENT KIND OF STATEMENT. YEAH, THAT IT RANG MUCH BETTER.
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GLAD TO SEE THE REINTRODUCTION OF THE TIER SYSTEM.I THINK THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S VERY MUCH WELCOME.
ONCE IMPLEMENTED, WE CAN COME BACK AND TWEAK IT AS NECESSARY.
I SUPPORT IF THE CHAIR IS WILLING, A QUARTERLY BRIEFING MEMO UPDATE JUST SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
AND IF WE HAVE CONCERNS, WE CAN BRING IT UP WITH THE, WITH STAFF.
AS OUR COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA ADDRESSED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS, I HAVE A COUPLE CLARIFICATIONS MAINLY FROM SLIDE 11. SO I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S, IT'S EASY TO KIND OF CONFUSE THE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE'RE HEARING ABOUT WITH RESTAURANTS VERSUS NIGHT, NIGHT TIME VENUES.
I THINK THE CONCERN REALLY GOES TO THE LAND USE DEFINITIONS THAT BAZALDUA MENTIONED AND THE LINE BETWEEN WHERE A RESTAURANT, A BAR MIGHT BE VAGUE. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS IS, I GUESS FOR TERRY, DO YOU BELIEVE THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? AND IF SO, HOW WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT? LIKE CLARIFYING THE BAR RESTAURANT LAND USE DEFINITION? OKAY. I WILL SAY BEFORE I RETIRED, YOU USUALLY TEXTED ME THOSE QUESTIONS BEFORE I WAS SITTING HERE.
JUST JUST A THOUGHT. YES, THERE IS DEFINITELY MORE WORK TO BE DONE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. THERE'S GOING TO BE THINGS THAT JUST GOT MISSED.
SO I IT'S NOT DONE. THE SPECIFIC THING THAT WAS MENTIONED WAS THE FLOOR AREA REQUIREMENT FOR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT ACCESSORY USE. WE HAD CONSIDERABLE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT VERY DIRECTLY IMPACTS REVELERS HALL, FOR INSTANCE. AND IN OUR DISCUSSIONS, WE HAD SUPPORT FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT ACM BENTLEY DID SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY EASY FIX AND THAT SHE WOULD SUPPORT GETTING THAT DONE.
SO I THINK THAT PROBABLY IS THE NEXT IMPORTANT STEP.
ONCE WE GET THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE. THIS LICENSE, I SEE IT AS A BASELINE, NOT AS A FINISHED PRODUCT.
IT IS SOMETHING AS, AS YOU MENTIONED COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.
THERE ARE SO MANY VARIETIES AND VARIABLES IN THE TYPES OF VENUES THAT WE WERE ASKED TO FIND A WAY TO CORRAL INTO A FRAMEWORK THAT WAS WORKABLE FOR EVERYBODY, SO THAT THIS IS A BEGINNING STEP.
AND IT, IT WILL ALSO HELP US IN THE LONG TERM.
I KNOW A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD HAVE BEEN ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS.
WE HAVE DEEP ELLUM THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AND EVERYBODY LOVES IT.
NOBODY SAID, I'M GOING TO START AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT THERE. IT JUST STARTED HAPPENING. SO I THINK PART OF WHAT WE WILL GATHER WITH THIS IS DATA THAT WE CAN USE TO, TO ORGANICALLY SAY, THIS IS BECOMING AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
HOW DO WE TREAT THOSE AREAS DIFFERENTLY? AND HOW CAN WE ENCOURAGE THE GROWTH IN WHAT, FRANKLY, TO ME IS ONE OF DALLAS MOST EXCITING THINGS, WHICH IS OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.
MY SON IS A BARTENDER, AND WHEN PEOPLE COME TO TOWN, IT'S LIKE, WHERE CAN WE GO? AND I THINK HAVING A VIBRANT, HEALTHY ENTERTAINMENT ENVIRONMENT IS, IS CRITICAL TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, TO WHAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE TO US AND TO REVENUE, FRANKLY, FOR THE CITY.
SO THERE ARE STEPS THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN. THE ACCESSORY USE IS ONE OF THEM.
SO OBVIOUSLY COORDINATING THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND BUILDING DATA TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO NEXT, STEPS FOR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, AND THEN FINE TUNING THIS AND SOMETHING THAT THAT IN A LARGE PLACE WITH COMPETING PRIORITIES LIKE THE CITY OF DALLAS, IT'S VERY EASY SOMETIMES FOR THINGS TO GET LOST.
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SO I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVING A COMMISSION THAT HAS A DEDICATED FOCUS ON ENTERTAINMENT AND NIGHTLIFE IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO KEEPING THIS MOVING FORWARD. I APPRECIATE ALL THAT, AND THAT'S A NICE SEGUE INTO MY LAST COMMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT THE ADVISORY COMMISSION. I JUST I'M VERY INTRIGUED BY THE IDEA.I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT. MY CONCERN WOULD BE LIKE THE 15 MEMBER APPOINTED COMMISSION.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT STRUCTURE IS A LITTLE TOO FORMAL AND CAN OFTEN BE SPOON FED BY STAFF SOMETIMES AS OPPOSED TO BEING NIMBLE, LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN AND BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF WORK WITH STAFF.
SO AS YOU DEVELOP WHATEVER THAT BECOMES, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU CAN KEEP THE NIMBLENESS AND FLEXIBILITY THAT THIS TASK FORCE HAS BEEN, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S BEEN MORE EFFECTIVE, FRANKLY, THAN MOST OF OUR COMMISSIONS HERE AT CITY COUNCIL.
SO BUT I'M VERY MUCH SUPPORTIVE OF ONGOING WORK WITH PRIVATE INDUSTRY, PARTNERING WITH STAFF.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER GAY. GO FOR IT. I WASN'T SURE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AND I AGREE THAT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF POLICY MAKING THAT YOU ALL HAVE REALLY SHOWN A GREAT MECHANISM FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE TABLE AND THE WAY YOU LED IT TO, YOU KNOW, GET TO A SEMI EXPEDIENT OUTCOME.
I THINK HOPEFULLY NOW WE CAN DO OUR PART ON THAT.
I AGREE THE NIGHT TIME HOSPITALITY COMMISSION IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO BEING AN ECONOMIC DRIVER, IT'S ALSO JUST PART OF OUR CITY'S VIBRANCY. EVEN IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND SO THE ONLY THING I WOULD QUESTION IS WE ASK FOR A LOT OF ANNUAL REVIEWS.
AND I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT'S NOT TOO ONEROUS, THAT IF WE'VE GOT A COMMISSION, THAT IT MAY BE AN AS NEEDED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE REALLY WORKING AND LOOKING AT HOW THINGS ARE OPERATING AND WHERE THERE ARE ISSUES YOU KNOW, THAT MAYBE IT COMES TO COUNCIL AS, AS SOMETHING ARISES, I'M NOT TIED TO THAT, BUT I JUST, I THINK I DON'T WANT TO SEE SOMETHING BECOME TOO ONEROUS.
MAYBE IT'S EVERY TWO YEARS OR EVERY THREE YEARS. NOT SURE. SO I GUESS, MISS MORRISON, THE REASON WE CAN DO THIS, THE CITY CAN CAN ENACT THESE CHANGES OR ADD STRUCTURE TO THE EXISTENCE OF THESE BUSINESSES.
IS THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE LICENSED AND PERMITTED? YES. THIS LICENSE WILL BE SEPARATE FROM THEIR LAND USE.
YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY BUSINESS IN DALLAS GETS A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR LAND USE.
SO AS A RESULT OF HAVING TO GET A LICENSE OR PERMIT, IT ALLOWS THE CITY TO COME IN AND INTERVENE IN A WAY THAT IS MUTUALLY AGREEABLE TO PROTECT THE BUSINESSES, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, ETC..
YES. OKAY. I'M LOOKING AT PAGE SEVEN WHERE IT'S TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE AREAS THAT THIS ADDRESSES IS ACTUALLY FRAMED UP ON A PAGE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES, BUT I'M REALLY LOOKING AT THE CONTENT OF WHAT THE TRAINING IS AROUND. AND I'M LOOKING AT CROWD MANAGEMENT. SO WE KNOW INSIDE AN ESTABLISHMENT WHERE IT'S CONFINED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY CRITICAL BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN EASY WAY IN OR OUT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. BUT I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT OUTSIDE THE BUSINESS, WHERE IT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PICKED UP UPON BY NEIGHBORS OR COULD BLOCK STREETS OR SIDEWALKS, ETC.. SO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIKE CROWD SURGES OR IT TALKS ABOUT QUEUE MANAGEMENT.
I MEAN, HOW DO YOU GET AT ADDRESSING THAT? OKAY.
SO YEAH, CROWD CONTROL MANAGEMENT IS PART OF THE LICENSE.
AND ON DUTY MANAGERS WOULD HAVE TO BE TRAINED IN THIS AS PART OF THE, THE, THE LIST OF ALL THE TOPICS THEY WOULD BE TRAINED ON AND IT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO BE TRAINED ON ORDERLY DISMISSAL OR DISPERSAL OF INDIVIDUALS FROM THE PROPERTY QUEUE MANAGEMENT, WHICH COULD INCLUDE INDOORS AND OUTDOORS, MAYBE A QUEUE TO GET INTO THE ESTABLISHMENT.
AND IT INCLUDES INDOOR AND OUTDOOR PATRONS CIRCULATION.
SO THAT'S PART OF IT AS WELL. BUT THAT WOULD STILL BE ON PROPERTY, RIGHT? YES. ON PROPERTY. I'M REALLY TALKING ABOUT LIKE WHAT? I MEAN, IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO THAT ESTABLISHMENT, IF YOU JUST LIVE CLOSE BY, HOW DOES IT AFFECT YOU? I MEAN, IF THIS ISN'T ADHERED TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T GET DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE A BIG CROWD IS GATHERING OR.
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HAPPEN IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO THAT'S PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT THE SMALL GROUP WAS THAT WE SHOULD HOLD THESE BUSINESS OWNERS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THEIR PROPERTY.BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ORGANIZED QUEUE MANAGEMENT, SO YOU'RE SAYING ONLY ON THE PROPERTY, NOT OFF OF THE PROPERTY. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VICE CHAIR, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS AND TERRY AND STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT SIX.
THANK YOU. DAMANI. YOU KNOW, OUR AREA IS BECOMING AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT, SO I'M WAS REALLY PLEASED TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM OUR DISTRICT REPRESENTING AND THAT KNOWS OUR AREA WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE OUR AREA IS KIND OF EVOLVING IN, IN THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL. HOW DO WE EXACTLY DEFINE THAT? AND I'M THINKING ABOUT SOME INCIDENTS, INSTANCES IN THE PAST.
IS IT BASED ON ZONING OR IF IT'S POSSIBLE THERE LIKE MIXED USE IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT WHERE THE ENTERTAINMENT GOES IN? HOW DO WE DEFINE THAT? I BELIEVE IN THE ORDINANCE WE DEFINE IT AS A RESIDENTIAL USE, NOT RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY. YEAH, IT MEANS AN ESTABLISHMENT LOCATED WITHIN 330FT OF A RESIDENTIAL USE, MEASURED FROM PROPERTY LINE TO PROPERTY LINE.
AND HOW WOULD A BUSINESS KNOW IF THERE'S RESIDENTIAL IN A IN A BUILDING? AND I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE DESIGN DISTRICT.
I'LL LET STAFF ANSWER HOW HOW THEY EXPECT APPLICANTS TO BRING IN THAT INFORMATION.
OKAY. I MEAN, WE'D HAVE A STAFF WOULD PROBABLY ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS, COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS, TO UNCOVER INFORMATION LIKE THAT.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE THERE ISN'T ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, INFORM US.
YEAH. GOOD MORNING, MEGAN WIMER, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. SO I WOULD SAY SINGLE FAMILY WOULD PROBABLY BE OBVIOUS.
IT DOESN'T GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. I THINK THE INSTANCE YOU SPEAK OF COUNCIL MEMBER IS, IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT JUST ON ITS FACE, BUT AN APPLICANT COULD WORK WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO LOOK AT CO HISTORY IN THE AREA TO HELP IDENTIFY LEGALLY ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL.
OKAY. YEAH. SO STAFF WOULD HAVE A RECORD IF, IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT LIVED THERE THAT.
THAT'S CORRECT. YES. THAT WOULD BE AND THE REASON I SAID LEGALLY ESTABLISHED.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S COME UP BEFORE, LIKE IN THE DESIGN DISTRICT WHERE THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL USES THAT WEREN'T ACTUALLY PERMITTED OR, OR CO'D. SO THAT WOULD NOT BE AFFORDED THE SAME PROTECTIONS SINCE IT WASN'T LEGALLY ESTABLISHED.
NO, THAT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT SITUATIONS THAT ARISE WITH THAT.
SO THANK YOU. AND THEN CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ROLLOUT OF THE ORDINANCE? LIKE, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE WITH ESTABLISHED BUSINESSES? WELL, ONCE APPROVED I MEAN, A LOT OF EDUCATION, BUT A 90 DAY IMPLEMENTATION WINDOW.
AND THE IDEA IS THAT WE WILL WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO PRESENT EDUCATION.
SO THE KEY KEY COMPONENT OF THAT WILL BE COMMUNICATION.
OKAY. AND THEN FOR MY DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY, I DID NOTICE IN THE ORDINANCE IT MENTIONED PEOPLE THAT HAVE LICENSES OF SEXUALLY ORIENTED BUSINESSES. SO WILL THIS APPLY TO SOB'S AS WELL OR WILL IT NOT? NO, THIS WON'T APPLY TO SOB'S. ANY ESTABLISHMENT THAT'S OPERATING AS AN SOB WOULD BE OPERATING UNDER THAT LICENSING FRAMEWORK.
SO THEY WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS LICENSE.
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OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU.THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SO THERE ARE A FEW CLARIFICATIONS AND APPARENT AMBIGUITIES THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAGE SIX OF THE PRESENTATION, THE DEFINITION OF AMBIENT ENTERTAINMENT IS PROVIDED MOSTLY WITH NEGATIVE PROVISIONS, AND THIS IS DEFINED IN SECTION 14-3, ONE OF THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
IT NEVER SAYS WHAT AMBIENT ENTERTAINMENT IS. IT JUST SAYS WHAT IT ISN'T.
SO MY QUESTION IS, CAN YOU GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES, SUCH AS, LET'S SAY A RESTAURANT OR A BAR THAT PLAYS BACKGROUND MUSIC, RECORDED BACKGROUND MUSIC, WHERE DOES THAT FALL? WELL, WE START WITH THE DEFINITION OF ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HAVE A BAND, A SOLO PERFORMER, A DISC JOCKEY, DANCING OR LIVE RECORDING TO LIVE OR RECORDED MUSIC OR LIVE PERFORMANCES.
SO IF YOU'RE JUST PIPING MUSIC THROUGH YOUR SPEAKERS WITHOUT A BAND OR DJ THEN.
THAT'S NOT ENTERTAINMENT. RIGHT. THAT WOULD NOT BE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY AT ALL.
OKAY. NOW UNDER THE DEFINITION ON PAGE SIX, IT TALKS ABOUT ELEMENTS OF SECURITY NO LONGER RELEVANT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF THE AMBIENT DEFINITION WHEN WE CAME TO THE COMMITTEE IN JUNE, WHERE IF YOU REQUIRED SOME EXTRA SECURITY FOR WHATEVER REASONS, THEN YOU COULDN'T CLAIM TO BE AN ESTABLISHMENT WITH AMBIENT ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY, YOU WOULD BE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY COVERED UNDER THE ORDINANCE.
SO THAT HAS JUST BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE WE FELT IT WAS VAGUE.
OKAY. SO THERE'S NO PROVISION ABOUT SWEEPING IN THE DEFINITION OF ENTERTAINMENT SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU PUT ON ADDED SECURITY.
RIGHT. OKAY. THEN ON SLIDE EIGHT, THE REFINEMENT INDOOR AND OUTDOOR STANDARDS HAVE MERGED.
WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU DON'T DISTINGUISH BETWEEN INDOOR AND OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT? THAT'S RIGHT. YOUR ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY COULD BE PROVIDED INDOORS AT YOUR ESTABLISHMENT OR OUTDOORS, SAY, ON A PATIO. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION? I DON'T RECALL. CAN STAFF WEIGH IN ON THAT? WELL, YES.
IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION THERE WAS DIFFERENT LEVELS FOR INDOOR AND OUTDOOR.
AND WE COMBINE THAT IN THIS. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SIMPLIFICATION.
BECAUSE SOME PLACES HAVE KIND OF A HYBRID OPERATION.
THEY MAY HAVE GARAGE DOORS THAT OPEN UP. AND SO THAT NOISE VOLUME, THE MUSIC VOLUME, AND THEY MAY HAVE PEOPLE SITTING INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. SO I'M GLAD YOU ELIMINATED THAT DISTINCTION.
WITH REGARD TO THE TYPES OF ENTERTAINMENT LICENSES IN SECTION 1404 OF THE ORDINANCE IT TALKS ABOUT FIXED ASSEMBLY HYBRID AND AMPLIFIED PERFORMANCE AS THE THREE TYPES OF CATEGORIES. WHERE DO RESTAURANTS FALL INTO THOSE? I THINK WE ANTICIPATE THAT FALLING INTO FIXED ASSEMBLY BECAUSE THAT'S ONE IN WHICH THE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY.
WELL, NO, THAT WOULDN'T BE IT. YOU SEE THE
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PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT INTO ANY OF THOSE CATEGORIES.THE FIXED ASSEMBLY IS ONE IN WHICH THE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY IS THE PRIMARY CUSTOMER DRAW.
NOW A RESTAURANT, THAT WON'T BE THE CASE. HYBRID.
I THINK IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER A RESTAURANT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT.
IF THEIR PRIMARY BUSINESS IS SERVING FOOD AND THEY MIGHT HAVE, SAY, A GUITARIST OR A SOLOIST WHO IS ACCOMPANYING THE PRIMARY ACTIVITY OF SERVING FOOD AND THEN AMPLIFIED PERFORMANCE, ONE IN WHICH THE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY IS THE PRIMARY CUSTOMER WOULDN'T FIT THAT EITHER. SO I THINK IF A LOT OF RESTAURANTS ARE GOING TO BE CONFUSED AS TO WHERE THEY FIT INTO THIS ORDINANCE. IF I MAY, CHAIR. EXCUSE ME. WE ANTICIPATE, BASED ON SOME DISCUSSION WE HAD IN OUR COLLABORATIVE MEETINGS, THAT RESTAURANTS WOULD DEEM THEMSELVES AS HYBRID BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THIS ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE, ANTICIPATING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR PATRONS ARE EXPECTING TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME TYPE OF A, YOU KNOW, DJ, AS YOU MENTIONED, ETC. THAT IS PART OF THE DRAW THAT WOULD BRING A PATRON TO A RESTAURANT KNOWING THAT THERE'S SOME SPECIAL ENTERTAINMENT PROGRAMED, DEEMING THEM, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO APPLY FOR THE LICENSE. SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THEY SELF ACKNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, SELF-ASSESS AS HYBRID FOR THE PURPOSE OF THESE ENTERTAINMENT LICENSES.
WELL, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE VERY CLEAR BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING THIS WHOLE REGULATORY SYSTEM.
OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MESS ON OUR HANDS.
SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU AT LEAST HAVE A AN INSTRUCTION LIST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS BUSINESS. HERE ARE THE CRITERIA UNDER WHICH YOU'RE CONSIDERED EITHER A FIXED ASSEMBLY OR HYBRID OR AN AMPLIFIED PERFORMANCE. AND IF YOU'RE NONE OF THESE AND YOUR PRIMARY PURPOSE IS SERVING FOOD, THEN YOU'RE NOT AN ENTERTAINMENT ESTABLISHMENT THAT REQUIRES A LICENSE. IN OTHER WORDS, CLARITY FOR OUR BUSINESS OWNERS OUT THERE.
DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE THAT SORT OF GUIDANCE PROVIDED TO BUSINESSES IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS ORDINANCE, OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TWEAK IN THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT CLEARER? SO AHEAD OF AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ROLLOUT, OF COURSE, WE'LL BE DOING SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT'S HELPFUL. ANSWER QUESTIONS AS RECEIVED.
WE'LL ENSURE THAT, COUPLED WITH FEEDBACK WE RECEIVE HERE, WE'RE WORKING IN TANDEM STILL WITH OUR TASK FORCE MEMBERS AND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BUILD OUT AN FAQ AND GUIDEBOOK THAT WILL HELP AN OPERATOR MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR FEEDBACK JUST TODAY IS HELPFUL TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CLOSE AS MANY GAPS AS POSSIBLE IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT PARTICULARLY CLEAR. BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO CLOSE THAT GAP OF UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS ORDINANCE TO DISCOURAGE RESTAURANTS FROM HIRING MUSICIANS TO PROVIDE INCIDENTAL ENTERTAINMENT TO THEIR CUSTOMERS IF THERE'S AMBIGUITY ABOUT WHETHER THEY HAVE TO GET A BIG LONG APPLICATION AND A LICENSE AND PAY A FEE JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A COLLEGE KID WHO COMES IN AND PLAYS THE PIANO ON THE WEEKENDS, THAT'S GOING TO DISCOURAGE THAT KIND OF CREATIVE OUTLET FOR OUR PERFORMERS.
AND THEN FINALLY IN SECTION 1405, THE EXCEPTIONS THAT PROVIDE A DEFENSE FOR REQUIRED LICENSES. THE FIRST ONE IS A PLACE OWNED BY THE FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
WELL, THEY COULD BLAST OUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NO LICENSE REQUIRED, BECAUSE CITY HALL
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PLAZA IS OWNED BY CITY GOVERNMENT. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THE SECOND EXCEPTION IS A LOCATION WHERE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT IS OBTAINED. BUT WHAT IF THEY DON'T OBTAIN A SPECIAL PERMIT? THEY COULD SIMPLY SAY, WELL, WE WERE PERFORMING ON CITY GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT. I JUST THINK THAT'S TOO BROAD AN EXCEPTION, BECAUSE WE FREQUENTLY ALLOW THIRD PARTIES TO USE OUR OUR GOVERNMENTAL PROPERTY AT THE CITY.
YES. JACKIE JUSTICE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. IF THEY ARE GOING TO USE CITY HALL PROPERTY IT IS REQUIRED UNDER 42.A FOR THEM TO GET A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. AND IN THAT PROCESS, WE ACTUALLY REVIEW WHAT KIND OF SOUND THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING AND WHAT KIND OF ENTERTAINMENT THEY WILL BE DOING.
AND THEY HAVE TO SUPPLY NOTICE TO ALL THE SURROUNDING BUSINESS AND RESIDENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL, THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN A SOUND VARIANCE AND WHAT TIME THAT WILL BE.
SO WHEN THEY, WHEN AN EVENT ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY ASKS FOR A SOUND VARIANCE, THE CESOS REVIEWS ALL OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND WHERE THAT EVENT WILL BE TAKING PLACE.
AND IF IT'S FULL OF RESIDENTS, WE DON'T OFTEN GO PAST SATURDAY LIKE 11 P.M., BUT IF IT'S A WEEKDAY, WE'LL KEEP IT TO 10 P.M. OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, EARLIER IF NEEDED.
SO CITY HALL IS MANAGED UNDER CHAPTER 42.A FOR EVENTS ON CITY HALL PLAZA.
SO YOU CAN YOU CAN ENFORCE DECIBEL REQUIREMENTS AND SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT.
SO IF AN EVENT HAPPENS AT CITY HALL PLAZA, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE CITY HALL SECURITY ON SITE, BUT OFTENTIMES MOST ALL THE TIME, WE ALSO HAVE DPD ON SITE.
AND THEN WE COMMUNICATE WITH DPD AND ASK THE ORGANIZER TO DECREASE THE THE VOLUME.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU, MR. RIDLEY.
WHAT WHAT DEPARTMENT IS PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING THIS, THIS KIND OF ORDINANCE? IS IT CODE ENFORCEMENT GENERALLY? YES, SIR. AND DO THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF SPECIAL TRAINING OR SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS TO DO THIS KIND OF SPECIFIC CODE ENFORCEMENT? IN OTHER WORDS, I'M CONCERNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS IS A SORT OF A UNIQUE TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT AND TO, TO COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY'S POINT, NOT ONLY AM I CONCERNED ABOUT THE VENUE'S UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF IT COULD BE SOME SUBJECTIVE SITUATIONS HERE. SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME HOW DID HOW DOES THIS THING GET ENFORCED? AND WHAT KIND OF TRAINING ARE WE GOING TO BE GIVEN TO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO BE ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY BUT THOUGHTFULLY HANDLE THIS SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME A DETRIMENT TO OUR ABILITY TO HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE LEGITIMATELY TRYING TO OPERATE YOU KNOW, NOT BEING CHILLED IN THEIR OPERATION. YES, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER ROTH. CHRIS CHRISTIAN, DIRECTOR OF CODE COMPLIANCE SERVICES. WE WILL HAVE A ROBUST TRAINING PROGRAM OVER THIS ORDINANCE AND THE INTERPRETATIONS INCLUDED THEREIN WITH OUR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM, OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THIS CODE IS ENFORCEABLE BY DPD, DALLAS FIRE RESCUE AS WELL AS CODE COMPLIANCE AS WELL.
AND SO IT'S ALL THREE. ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS LOOKING AT THIS TOGETHER LIKE WE CURRENTLY WORK IN OUR NIGHT TIME ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WITH OUR TASK FORCE ENFORCEMENT, THIS WILL BE NO DIFFERENT. WE WILL READ AND INTERPRET THE ORDINANCE JUST LIKE WE DO OUR CURRENT CHAPTER 51 ZONING CODE AND THE OTHER ORDINANCES THAT WE ENFORCE TODAY.
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THIS WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT FOR US. WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO STUDY WITH OUR PARTNERS THE INTERPRETATIONS, HOW THE ZONING AND THE LICENSING TEAM WANTS IT TO BE ENFORCED.AND THEN WE'LL BUILD OUR TRAINING THRESHOLDS AROUND THAT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS MY EDUCATION. HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU TEST DECIBEL LEVELS? IS IT THE SOUND THAT'S WITHIN A BUILDING? IS IT THE SOUND OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING? HOW FAR AWAY DO YOU IS THERE A MACHINE? HOW DO YOU DO THIS? HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT HOW LOUD SOMETHING IS? THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT QUESTION WE HAVE AMERICAN SOUND ENFORCEMENT CALIBRATED TOOLS THAT WE USE.
THERE'S A DECIBEL READER TOOL THAT WE HAVE. OUR TEAM HAS THAT WE CAN TAKE OUT.
IT'S GOT A LITTLE MICROPHONE ON IT, A LITTLE STAND WE CAN AT THE BOUNDING LINE OF THE PROPERTY, WE CAN HOLD THAT MICROPHONE OUT TO THE BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT, AND IT WILL RECORD THE DECIBEL LEVELS THAT ARE COMING FROM THAT BUSINESS.
AND AGAIN, I'M AND WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS PURPOSEFUL.
IS THERE A SET DISTANCE? IS IT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE WALL? IS IT BACK FAR AWAY? HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU KNOW IF SOMEBODY, IF YOU'VE GOT A PLACE INSIDE THAT'S COMPLETELY SOUNDPROOF, SO TO SPEAK, AND THEY'VE GOT MILLIONS OF DECIBELS.
I'M JUST BEING SILLY. AND IT'S REALLY NOT IS THAT IT'S THE SOUND THAT'S THAT'S NOTICEABLE OUTSIDE OF THE VENUE. THAT IS CORRECT. AND IS IT WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF THE VENUE? SO WE TAKE OUR MEASUREMENTS FROM THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY LINE, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPERTY.
WE DON'T TYPICALLY CONCERN OURSELVES WITH THE SOUND INSIDE THE BUSINESS.
IT'S MORE ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT IT'S HAVING ON NEIGHBORS AND SURROUNDING RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS, AND THE MACHINES THAT YOU USE TO DO THAT ARE CALIBRATED.
THEY'RE SORT OF ESTABLISHED. IT'S A THEY'RE VERIFIABLE.
YES. MACHINES THAT THAT CAN BE USED FOR ENFORCEMENT AND FOR FOR PROOF OF, OF, OF THE ISSUE.
THEY'VE BEEN TRAINED, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY'VE GOT THE EXPERTISE TO, TO BE PURPOSEFUL ADVOCATES FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
WE ARE EQUIPPED AND PREPARED TO SUPPORT THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS ORDINANCE AS NECESSARY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ROTH. RIDLEY, JUST ANOTHER SCENARIO THAT I THINK YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER IN THE EXCEPTION IN SECTION 14-5 FOR A PLACE OWNED BY GOVERNMENT.
WHAT ABOUT THE SITUATION WHERE THE CITY LICENSES RIGHT OF WAY TO RESTAURANTS OR OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS FOR PURPOSES OF SIDEWALK CAFES? ACTUAL LOCATION WITHIN THE STREET, RIGHT OF WAY WITH A FOR A PERMANENT TIME PERIOD OR A SPECIFIED PERIOD. THEY COULD DEFEND ANY PROSECUTION FOR NOT HAVING AN ENTERTAINMENT LICENSE BY SAYING OUR DEFENSE IS, IT'S OWNED BY THE STATE GOVERNMENT OR CITY GOVERNMENT.
HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THAT WITH THIS EXCEPTION? IF THEY HAVE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY OUT THERE.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE WORKING GROUP, BUT LET ME THINK ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THAT'S AN I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.
THEY FALL OUT OF THE WHOLE REGULATION HERE. WHAT YOU COULD DO TO ADDRESS THAT WOULD BE TO ADD AT THE END OF THE DEFENSE, NUMBER ONE, A PLACE OWNED BY FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT UNLESS LICENSED TO A PRIVATE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITY.
A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND THEN I'LL, LOOK FOR A MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AND. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE GRACE.
PATIENCE. SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO DO THAT BACK AND FORTH TO COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA POINT, JUST SO THAT WE CAN GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE, MAY STILL HAVE A LITTLE SOMETHING UNDER OUR GUT ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A PLACE WHERE WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD.
THERE IT'S NOT LIKE I SAID, NOT EXHAUSTED, BUT IT HAS TAKEN GREAT CONSIDERATION.
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AND I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF A NIGHT LIFE HOSPITALITY ADVISORY COMMISSION BECAUSE LIKE MANY OF US, THERE'S STILL A FEW QUESTIONS, A FEW LINGERING THINGS.AND I THINK THIS COMMISSION COULD HELP ADDRESS THAT AND MOVE SOME THINGS FORWARD FROM THERE.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT TOOK THIS SO LONG, RIGHT? WE HAVE WELL, DOWN IN DEEP ELLUM, THIS IS HOW THEY DO IT.
WELL IN BISHOP ARTS. THIS IS HOW THEY DO IT. WELL, OVER HERE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS, WE HAVE THIS ONE SPOT AND THIS IS HOW THEY DO IT SORT OF THING. SO THERE'S ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES THAT I THINK NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE TO BE CONSIDERED.
SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTING A NIGHTLIFE HOSPITALITY ADVISORY COMMISSION, AND I THINK THEY COULD ALSO BE REVIEWING THIS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AS WELL, IN ADDITION TO COMING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE.
SO I DO LIKE THAT IDEA. QUESTION WITH THE NEW BUDGET, WILL THIS IMPACT HOW ALL OF THIS IS OPERATED? I JUST WANT TO FROM AN APPLICATION PERSPECTIVE AND ALL OF THAT WITH THE UNDER PROPOSED BUDGETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WILL ANY OF THIS BE IMPACTED? AND MARTIN, I'LL JUST ASK YOU JUST EVEN FROM A SPECIFIC TO THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
NO, WE ARE MAINTAINING OUR NIGHTTIME DIVISION WITH THE TWO POSITIONS.
OF COURSE, ONCE THE FEE STUDY IS COMPLETE, THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATE THE TYPE OF REVENUE THAT WOULD BE EARNED YOU KNOW, FROM THE PERMIT FUNCTION OF THE DIVISION.
AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT FORWARD ABOUT THAT AGAIN ONCE THAT FEE STUDY IS COMPLETE.
OKAY. I DO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THOSE FEES ARE GOING TO BE BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL.
I THINK THAT'S FAIR BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SET US UP FOR ANOTHER ANGRY RESIDENTS.
I WANT TO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY SO FAR.
I THINK THAT'S THE LAST PIECE TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL COMFORTABLE AND GET THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.
AND I DO AGREE. WE CAN BRING THIS BACK QUARTERLY JUST TO REVIEW AND SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
JUST TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT. AND THEN THE LAST AND FINAL QUESTION AS I THINK AGAIN CHAIR WEST, HAS REVELERS HALL ISSUE BEEN FIXED WITH ALL OF THIS? HAS IT BEEN FIXED? THAT IS THE QUESTION. BECAUSE AGAIN, I SAY THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, WHY THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD WORK BECAUSE IT STARTED HERE. AND THEN THIS PIECE GOT ADDED, WHICH SENT THIS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE THAT HAD TO BE ADDRESSED, WHICH SENT THIS OVER HERE. AND IF IT'S ALL OF THESE PIECES, DID THE ORIGINAL ISSUE GET ADDRESSED? MY ANSWER WOULD BE ALMOST THE COVER CHARGE ISSUE WILL BE FIXED.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THINK WE'VE WE'VE DONE ENOUGH.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T LOSE FOCUS ON, ON ITS ORIGINAL INTENT TO GETTING THAT SOLVED.
AND WE ARE. I'M GOING TO SAY WE'RE ALMOST GETTING THERE.
ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. I'M SORRY TO. I DIDN'T PICK UP ON IT EARLIER.
IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THIS ORDINANCE TO FOR A APPLICATION FOR ANY KIND OF A VARIANCE BY ANY OF THE, OF THE THE FOLKS THAT THAT MAY BE AFFECTED BY THAT.
AND IF NOT, IT MAY NOT BE THAT MAY BE OKAY. BUT IF THERE IS, HOW WOULD THAT WHAT WOULD THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO SPEND, HAVE AN EXTRA HOUR OF AMBIENT ENTERTAINMENT OR IF YOU HAD SOME SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE? OR IS THAT NOT APPROPRIATE IN THIS KIND OF AN ORDINANCE? THE ONLY AREA IN THE ORDINANCE WHERE WE OFFER SOME KIND OF VARIANCE IS UNDER THE SOUND ARTICLE THE DIRECTOR CAN GRANT A VARIANCE TO YOUR HOURS AND HOW LATE YOU CAN BE AT CERTAIN DECIBEL LEVELS IF YOU PROVE UP CERTAIN FACTORS. SO THERE IS THAT. SO THE DIRECTOR, THE DIRECTOR OF ARTS AND CULTURE, WHO IS THAT? THE DIRECTOR OF ARTS AND THE DIRECTOR OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
YES. CAN MAKE THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO SOME VARIANCES.
OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THE FINAL REQUEST THAT WAS OUT THERE, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA REQUESTED A LIST OF AN EXAMPLE OF PLACES AND ESTABLISHMENTS.
I THINK IT WAS RESTAURANTS. RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY.
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OH, YEAH. YEAH. FOR THE SCALE, I THINK THAT WAS SLIDE 11.NINE. MAYBE IT WAS NINE. NINE. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WAS SLIDE NINE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. WELL, WITH THAT SAID, AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR GREAT WORK.
AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO FULL COUNCIL? YES. MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO FULL COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
SECOND MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND PROPERLY SECONDED.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? WAIT, MR. CHAIR.
JUST CURIOUS. STAFF, DO YOU CONTEMPLATE MAKING ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE IN LIGHT OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM THIS PANEL TODAY BEFORE IT MOVES ON TO COUNCIL? I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS THE FINAL VERSION, MR. CHAIR. WE'D LIKE TO CONSIDER ADDING A SUGGESTED EDIT AT ON SECTION 14-5 AROUND THE FEDERAL STATE LINE THAT YOU MENTIONED, SIR.
OKAY. SO WILL THIS BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL FOR A BRIEFING BEFORE A VOTE ON IT.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND. IS THAT THE INTENT OF THE MOTION? THE MOTION WAS JUST TO MOVE TO FULL COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. OKAY.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT BE BRIEFED TO THE FULL COUNCIL.
BECAUSE I'M SURE MANY PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMITTEE WILL NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS CHANGEOVER, AND THEY'RE LIKELY TO BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEFORE IT'S SUBMITTED FOR A FULL VOTE.
WOULD YOU ACCEPT AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION TO REFER IT TO FULL COUNCIL BRIEFING? SURE. AND I WILL SUPPORT THAT MOTION. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD I WOULD NOT AGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK THAT WHAT ESPECIALLY JUST AS WE'VE GIVEN THE KUDOS ON THE ACTUAL POLICY WORK, I, I PERSONALLY SHOW UP TO COMMITTEES, IF THERE ARE AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR ME TO WEIGH INTO THAT I'M NOT ON.
AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS. JUST GET CAUGHT UP INTO A BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE.
THAT'S UNNECESSARY. I THE LAST THING THAT I'D WANT TO DO IS TO SEE THIS KIND OF GET SENT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE COME TO A PRETTY CLEAR CONSENSUS OF THE ACTUAL POLICY WORK TO LEAD US TO THIS POINT.
SO I THINK IT'S UNNECESSARY. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY BRING THINGS TO FULL COUNCIL.
SO I GUESS I WOULD JUST HAVE MORE QUESTION ON WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE VERSUS THAT OF THIS COMING INTO A FRIDAY MEMO AND GETTING PEOPLE UP TO SPEED, WHO WHO CHOSE ACTIVELY NOT TO BE HERE AND PARTICIPATE IN THE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES WE'VE HAD TO VET THIS, THIS POLICY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS THERE.
AND IT'S ALL BEEN NOTED. I THINK THE, THE CHAIR MADE A MOTION AND HE ACCEPTED THE AMENDMENT.
I THINK WE JUST MOVED FORWARD WITH THE VOTE TO SEE IF IT PASSES.
SO AN AMENDMENT WAS MADE AMENDMENT TO. CHAIR WES.
BUT I SECONDED IT AND I DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT. SO I'M WITHDRAWING MY SECOND. OKAY.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF I. AND AGAIN, I'M NEW TO THIS PART OF IT, OF WHAT HAPPENED.
THERE WAS A MOTION MADE. THERE WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT MADE TO IT.
THEN THE PERSON WHO SECONDED THE MOTION WITHDREW THE SECOND, AND THEN THE PERSON QUESTION. FRIENDLY AMENDMENT SECONDED THE MOTION SUBJECT, THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
SO. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY, OKAY.
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COUNCIL FOR BRIEFING. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT MOTION FAILED. WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.SO I THINK AT THIS POINT WE JUST NEED TO TAKE THE VOTE.
MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO FULL COUNCIL WITH APPROVAL.
SECOND. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE PROPERLY. SECOND TO MOVE THIS TO FULL COUNCIL.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET IT FOR THOSE WHO WEREN'T HERE.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHY. BUT IF THEY'RE NOT HERE WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET A COPY TO THOSE PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS, ESPECIALLY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
AMANDA EARL, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND VICTORIA BENNETT, ANIMAL SERVICES CREW.
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR. COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS PAUL RAMON. I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES HAVE HERE WITH ME TODAY MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, AMANDA EARL AND VICTORIA BENNETT. AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, THIS WILL BE MY LAST AND FINAL BRIEFING TO QUALITY OF LIFE AS MY INTENT TO RETIRE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED. I HAVE BEEN GRATEFULLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE SUPPORT FROM THIS COMMITTEE THROUGHOUT THESE 23 YEARS AND THE CONTINUED EFFORTS OF THE TEAM MOVING FORWARD THAT I KNOW YOU'LL BE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS AND YOU WILL BE MISSED.
AND THIS WILL BE MY LAST TIME BEFORE THIS HORSESHOE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION, WE'LL RECAP THE PURPOSE OF THE DISCUSSION.
KEY DEFINITIONS. BACKGROUND FOR CONTENT REVIEW, SOME DATA COMMUNITY FEEDBACK APPROACHES, CURRENT LANGUAGE AND POTENTIAL CONSIDERATIONS, SOME OF THOSE MERITS AND CHALLENGES, AND WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE AN UNDERSTANDING AND POLICY FRAMEWORK FOR FERAL AND COMMUNITY CATS. DISCUSS COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
AS WE PRESENTED THIS BEFORE, THE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE WAS TO GO BACK AND SPEAK TO THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION AND AS WELL, CONTINUOUS ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY TO GAUGE THEIR FEEDBACK, OUTLINE IMPACTS AND CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES, AND SEEK COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON NEXT STEPS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AGAIN, WE HAVE THE KEY DISTINCTIONS AND THE DEFINITIONS BETWEEN A FERAL AND COMMUNITY CAT.
ONE OF THE KEY DISTINCTIONS FOR THOSE TWO DIFFERENTIATIONS IS BEHAVIORS.
NEXT SLIDE. DIAZ BEGAN HEARING INCREASED CONCERNS RELATED TO COMMUNITY CATS THROUGH ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, DISCUSSIONS THAT HAPPENED QUARTERLY, AND SOME COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THE ISSUE.
DURING THAT PILOT, WE SAW AN INCREASE IN TNR SURGERIES, PREVENTING THOUSANDS OF POTENTIAL NEONATE BIRTHS WITH ADDITIONAL BENEFITS, INCLUDING VACCINATIONS AND EXPANDED COLLABORATION WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SERVICE REQUEST DATA HELPS TO VISUALIZE BOTH THE SCALE AND GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION OF COMMUNITY CAT CONCERNS THE DENSITY OF THE MOST IMPACTED AREAS, AND THIS INFORMATION IS ALSO HELPFUL WITH TARGETED OUTREACH AND STRATEGIES. NEXT SLIDE. THIS NEXT SLIDE REPRESENTS OVER THE SAME PERIOD, THE NEONATE ARRIVAL DATA FOR DAS. WE RECEIVED MORE THAN 10,000 NEONATE KITTENS DURING THIS TIME FRAME.
NEONATES, OF COURSE, REQUIRE INTENSIVE AROUND THE CLOCK CARE, FEEDING, MEDICAL OVERSIGHT, SIGNIFICANT STAFFING, AND FOSTER RESOURCES. KITTEN SEASON TYPICALLY BEGINS IN MARCH AND EXTENDS THROUGH OCTOBER.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE. SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BRIEFLY IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK HAS BEEN CENTERED ON SEVERAL AREAS QUALITY OF LIFE IMPACTS FOR RESIDENTS AND FERAL CATS AND COMMUNITY CATS.
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PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERNS AND ANIMAL WELFARE OUTCOMES.NEXT SLIDE. DURING THIS COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSIONS, THEY THEY ACTUALLY KICKED OFF IN IN 2025.
WE BEGAN ENGAGING WITH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS THROUGH THOSE LISTENING SESSIONS.
WE REVIEWED STATE AND CITY CODE REGIONAL PRACTICES WHILE WORKING ALONGSIDE OUR ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSIONERS AND DISTRICT OFFICES THROUGHOUT FISCAL YEAR 26. AND WHAT WE HEARD DURING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WERE PRIMARILY CONCERNS FOCUSED ON NUISANCE RELATED ISSUES, THE NEED FOR CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION ON THIS PROCESS FOR BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS AND CAREGIVERS, AND AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES NEEDED FOR TNR SUPPORT, WHICH WE'VE WE'VE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO BUILD THOSE RESOURCES AND ACCESS TO CARE. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. PART OF THAT RESEARCH, WE LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES AS DIAZ CONSULTED WITH SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND REVIEWED APPROACHES USED BY PEER TEXAS MUNICIPALITIES.
SEVERAL CITIES HAVE FORMALIZED THEIR TNR POLICIES THROUGH ORDINANCE LANGUAGE, OR FRAMEWORKS THAT DEFINE TNR STANDARDS, RESPONSIBILITIES, AND PROTECTIONS. NEXT SLIDE.
NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. CURRENTLY, CHAPTER SEVEN, ANIMALS OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE CONTAINS ONLY LIMITED REFERENCES TO TNR WITH NO CLEAR FRAMEWORK OR OPERATIONAL GUIDANCE. POTENTIAL AREAS OF CONSIDERATION INCLUDE CLEARER DEFINITIONS, STANDARDS, AND EXPECTATIONS. POSSIBLE DEFENSES FOR PROSECUTION FOR TNR PARTICIPANTS.
AND THEN OVERALL STRUCTURE OF THE TNR PROGRAM.
NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. SOME MERITS. ESTABLISHING A CLEAR FRAMEWORK IMPROVES UNDERSTANDING AND PUBLIC HEALTH OUTCOMES, POPULATION STABILIZATION THROUGH SPAY AND NEUTER EFFORTS, AND IN REDUCING REDUCING NUISANCE BEHAVIORS.
NEXT SLIDE. OF COURSE, THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES.
SOME OF THOSE MOST IMPORTANT CHALLENGES ARE CONSIDERATIONS FOR WILDLIFE IMPACTS.
THEY MAY CONTINUE AND BE AN ISSUE. TNR EFFORTS REQUIRE SUSTAINED COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, RESOURCE PARTNERS, AND PUBLIC EDUCATION. POPULATION STABILIZATION TAKES TIME AND THE COMMITTEE CONCERNS MAY.
THE COMMUNITY CONCERNS MAY PERSIST DURING IMPLEMENTATION.
HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT A QUICK FIX BUT IS NEEDED TO CLEAR UP CONFUSION IN THE COMMUNITY.
NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? SO SHOULD THE COMMUNITY WISH TO MOVE FORWARD? DAS WOULD INCORPORATE ANY COMMUNITY FEEDBACK PROVIDED TODAY INTO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU ALL.
IDENTIFY ANY ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS OR POLICY CONSIDERATIONS FROM THAT FEEDBACK, OR CONTINUE WITH EDUCATION AND ENGAGEMENT AND, IF RECOMMENDED, PROCEED TO FULL COUNCIL IN OCTOBER WITH THIS DRAFT ORDINANCE.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SIR. I'LL START WITH CHAIR WEST AND THEN AFTER HIM.
I'LL GO TO MY LEFT AND COME BACK THAT WAY. THANK YOU CHAIR.
THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS ADDITIONAL POLICY ISSUE ON QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND THANK YOU DIRECTORS FOR COMING OUT THERE.
AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO AND YOUR CALM DEMEANOR IN A VERY DIFFICULT DEPARTMENT WITH A LOT OF VERY PASSIONATE ADVOCATES. YOUR RESPONSIVENESS OF THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.
SO I'M GOING TO GET THAT QUESTION, I'M SURE. STARTING IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN I ASSUME YOU TOOK IT VERY RECENTLY AS WELL.
RIGHT. WE'RE ACTUALLY BRIEFING THEM ON THIS DISCUSSION FRIDAY.
YOU ARE. OKAY. SO THAT WILL BE THE SECOND BRIEFING.
OKAY. CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME LIKE THE HIGH LEVEL ON WHAT WILL BE CHANGING WITH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND THEN, WHAT COMMUNITY CAT ADVOCATES CAN EXPECT WITH CHANGES IN THIS ORDINANCE? WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARABLES ON SLIDE SORRY.
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WHAT ACTUALLY IS THE TNR PROGRAM. SO WHAT WE WOULD DO WAS WE WOULD CLARIFY THE DEFINITIONS IN 7-1.1 TO INCLUDE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.SOME PROVISIONS FOR DEFENSE PROSECUTION FOR COMMUNITY CAREGIVERS AS IT RELATES TO LOOSE ANIMALS AS THEY'RE NOT OWNED ANIMALS, THEY'RE FERAL. AND THEN THERE WERE CONCERNS AROUND TRAPPING.
AND THEN THE 7-3.6 IS AN ADDITION THAT ACTUALLY LAYS OUT THE WHOLE PROGRAM IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT'S REQUIRED, WHAT THE ANIMALS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM THE SPAY NEUTER MICROCHIP, THE VACCINATIONS, THE RABIES AND ALL THAT OTHER DEFENSES TO PROSECUTION AND ANY ACCOUNTABILITY.
YES. WE'VE ACTUALLY PROVIDED THEM WITH A DRAFT JUST SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE.
OKAY. SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT. GREAT BEFORE THAT COMES TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN FOR THE EDUCATION PIECE, WILL THERE BE AN OPPORTUNITY, WHETHER IT'S VIRTUAL OR IN PERSON, TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON ANY CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL APPROVES? WELL, I KNOW WE'VE DID A LOT OF IN PERSON AND WE DID TWO CITY WIDE, ONE IN NORTHWEST, ONE IN SOUTHEAST.
BUT WE DID TALK TO SOME OF THE ATTENDEES AND THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO ACTUALLY BRING THEM OUT TO SUPPORT US IN PROVIDING EDUCATION ON WHAT THEY DO AS FAR AS TRAPPING THE ANIMALS AND TRYING TO REDUCE THE POPULATIONS.
BUT YEAH, THERE WILL BE CONTINUING EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FOR THIS PURPOSE.
WONDERFUL. IF A ADVOCATE OR A PERSON CONCERNED ABOUT THE THE ORDINANCE HAS INPUT AT THIS POINT, WHERE DO THEY SEND THEIR INPUT ON THE ORDINANCE DRAFT? I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY BRING IT THROUGH THE COMMISSION, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE THEY REALLY NEED TO BE INVOLVED AND INFORMED AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL, AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL.
AND THEY'RE FREE TO COME SPEAK THIS FRIDAY. THEY CAN SIGN UP AS A SPEAKER.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT LIST CUTS OFF, BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
OKAY. WE WILL MAKE SURE AT LEAST THE PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT WHO ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CATS THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF, THAT FRIDAY IS THE DATE THEY CAN COME AND SPEAK.
WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL START DOWN ON MY END.
MR. ROTH. THANK YOU. JUST SORT OF AS AN EDUCATION IN ORDER TO ENFORCE THIS, WHAT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ARE YOU ALL GOING TO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS IMPLEMENTED PROPERLY? THE ENFORCEMENT WILL BE MINIMAL.
IT WOULD BE MORE TOWARDS THE NUISANCE BEHAVIORS THAT MAY BE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS IT RELATES TO NOISE OR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND SO FORTH. BUT IT WOULD BE OUR NORMAL PROCESS.
WE'D GO OUT AND HAVE A CONVERSATION. WE TRY TO REMEDY THE ISSUE RIGHT THEN AND THERE, IF NOT, ISSUE A NOTICE AND IF NECESSARY, ISSUE A CITATION.
ARE YOU GOING TO NEED TO HIRE EXTRA PEOPLE OR ARE YOU GOING TO NEED TO DO ANY KIND OF EXTRA STUFF? IS THERE IS THE REAL QUESTION, IS THERE ANY SIGNIFICANT BUDGET IMPACT AT THIS AT THIS MOMENT? THIS THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST A FRAMEWORK. OTHER CITIES HAVE EXPANDED ON IT TO INCLUDE REGISTRATIONS AND OTHER THINGS, AND THAT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND STAFFING.
BUT AT THIS POINT, THIS IS JUST A FRAMEWORK AND A GUIDELINE.
SO THE FOLKS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT CAN DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. WE DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE THE VOLUME OF VOLUME OF, OF RESOURCES TO PROVIDE FOR IMPLEMENTING THIS.
EXACTLY. GREAT. THANK YOU. CHAIR RIDLEY. SO, MR. RAMON, DO YOU HAVE A PLAN TO AMEND THE CURRENT ORDINANCES TO ADDRESS THESE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS, OR IS THAT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL POLICY CONSIDERATIONS AS IT RELATES TO INCREASING THE EFFICACY OF THIS PROPOSAL? IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED IN FUTURE BRIEFINGS.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONS AT THIS POINT.
OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. VICE CHAIR CADENA.
PAUL, I KNOW WE WORK WITH SEVERAL PARTNERS ALSO WITH THE SPAY AND NEUTER NETWORK.
HAVE THEY BEEN CONSULTED OR PROVIDED ANY INPUT?
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THEY PROVIDE RESOURCES FOR THIS TOO. WELL, WE DID PART OF THE LISTENING SESSION WAS THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR SPAY AND NEUTER TO INCLUDE TNR COMMUNITY CATS. SO WE RECENTLY COMPLETED A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO EXPAND OUR RESOURCES TO HAVE THREE VENDORS TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.THEY ARE SPAY NEUTER, NETWORK, OPERATION KINDNESS HUMANE AND TCAP.
GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.
COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS. THANK YOU. SO YOU TALK ABOUT YOU'VE GOT THE THREE VENDORS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FUNDING? BECAUSE MY QUESTION IS, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS AN ONGOING ISSUE.
I MEAN, IT JUST REGENERATES SEASON AFTER SEASON AFTER SEASON.
AND SO I THINK WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION OF WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WOULD REALLY HELP DALLAS NOT JUST ON THE CITY OF DALLAS, BUT WOULD HELP OUR CITY LIMITS GET AHEAD OF THIS ISSUE.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A MASSIVE EFFORT ON SPAY AND NEUTER, BUT IF WE CAN REALLY KNOCK IT DOWN, THEN WE START TO ALLEVIATE THIS ISSUE. WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF BUILDING PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE I THINK IT'S ABOUT 184,000 IN OUR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES BUDGET FOR SPAY AND NEUTER FOR SUBSIDIZED, SPAY AND NEUTER. AND THEN WE ALSO IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR FRIENDS OF DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES ADDED AN ADDITIONAL.
120 YEAH. 120 120,000 AND SOME OF OUR PARTNERS ACTUALLY WERE LUCKY TO BE PART OF A GRANT PROCESS WHERE THEY RECEIVED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
BECAUSE WE'RE IN A DESERT, WE'RE IN A, WE'RE IN A VETERINARY DESERT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY AND SUBSIDIZE THOSE NEEDS THROUGH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
BUT I'M HEARING ABOUT WE'VE GOT THIS AND THIS AND THIS, BUT I'M NOT HEARING WHAT THE BIG NUMBER IS.
HAS IT BEEN LOOKED AT AS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD $1.3 MILLION, WE COULD, IN THE COURSE OF A YEAR, REALLY MAKE SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS TOWARD THIS.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ADORABLE, BUT WE'VE GOT THOUSANDS OF THEM.
AGAIN, WE HAVE DONE OR THE TEAM HAS DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB AT LEVERAGING PARTNERSHIPS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW USE THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, STRETCH OUT THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR PARTNERS THAT HAVE BEEN MORE THAN GRACIOUS AND WILLING TO HELP.
WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A MAGIC NUMBER. I COULDN'T GIVE YOU A MAGIC NUMBER.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'VE DONE OVER 4000 SPAY AND NEUTER.
THE ISSUE IS ACTUAL CAPACITY, THE BANDWIDTH TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.
THERE'S A VETERINARY SHORTAGE FOR SURGEONS OUT THERE.
WE JUST ADDED AN ADDITIONAL SURGEON PART TIME INTO OUR STAFF.
WE KNOW SEASONALLY. I MEAN WE KNOW HOW MANY KITTENS ARE BEING BOARD BORN THEREABOUTS.
WE KNOW HOW MANY YOU ARE ABLE TO SPAY OR NEUTER.
SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO START GETTING TOWARD IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, DO THIS MUCH, THIS WOULD BE AN IDEAL TO BE SHOOTING FOR. I UNDERSTAND THE VETERINARY SHORTAGE, AND MAYBE THERE'S A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET AT THAT. YOU KNOW, USING SOME OTHER RESOURCES FROM OUTSIDE OF TOWN.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'M JUST STILL TRYING TO GET TO THAT NUMBER BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THAT THE CITY IS CONTRIBUTING AND FRIENDS GROUPS AND NONPROFITS, IT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT IT'S IN PIECES AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT FALLS SHORT OF TRULY GETTING AHEAD OF THIS.
I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN THIS, YOU KNOW, REGENERATING ISSUE THAT WE CAN'T REALLY GET AHEAD OF.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GET AHEAD OF IT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS AROUND PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, HOME OWNERSHIP AND HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO DO. I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T WANT CATS ON YOUR PROPERTY, THEN WHAT STEPS CAN YOU TAKE TO NOT HAVE THEM ON YOUR PROPERTY?
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I MEAN, I SEE SOME REGULATIONS AROUND WHAT YOU CAN'T DO ONCE YOU TRAP THEM, BUT CAN THEY CALL DAS AND THEN YOU TAKE IT FROM THERE OR ANOTHER PARTNER AND THEY CAN TAKE IT FROM THERE WITH REGARD TO SPAY AND NEUTER.SO JUST TO REITERATE, YOU PULL THAT UP CLOSER TO YOU.
I'M SO SORRY. I'M AMANDA EARL. I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
A LOT OF THIS, THIS FRAMEWORK IS JUST TO ESTABLISH THE FRAMEWORK.
SO THE [INAUDIBLE], THE FIELD TEAM SPENDS A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS TO HELP THE COMMUNITY DO CONNECT WITH THOSE PARTNERS SO THAT THEY CAN REMOVE THE TRAP AND REMOVE THE CATS IF THEY HAVE TRAP AND REMOVE IS NOT EFFECTIVE.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT TNR. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF RESOURCES THAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL NEED THAT HAVE TO COME FROM THE COMMUNITY IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH TNR, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS. YEAH. AND I THINK IF I COULD ADD ON TO THAT, I THINK WITH THE CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION, WITH SOME OF THOSE TRAPPERS WHO ARE REALLY, REALLY EDUCATED ON SOME OF THESE PROCESSES, WE COULD TRY AND DO OUR BEST TO, TO INFORM THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS WHAT THOSE DETERRENTS COULD BE TO KEEP THEM, THOSE ANIMALS OFF THEIR PROPERTY.
AND IT'S LIKE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR EARL SAID. THIS IS JUST A FRAMEWORK.
WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A BRIDGE AND REMOVE THE GAP BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME TRY TO FIND ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND, AND PARTNERSHIPS TO DIRECT THOSE FOLKS. WELL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY, I'M SURE ACROSS THE CITY WHO TAKE THE TIME TO TRAP AND THEN GO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT AND TAKE THESE FERAL CATS IN FOR SPAY OR NEUTER.
AND ONE OTHER CONCERN I WANT TO RAISE IS THAT I'VE SEEN COMMUNITY CAT CARETAKING, WHETHER IT'S ORGANIZED OR NOT, IN PARKS. AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE BIRDS AND TREES.
AND I REMEMBER IN MY FORMER CAREER HAVING ANIMAL WILDLIFE FROM PARKS AND REC AND WELL FROM THE CITY COME OUT AND JUST SAY, THIS IS NOT WHERE THESE SHELTERS BELONG, BECAUSE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY HURTS OUR BIRD POPULATION.
SO I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE PURSUE SOME PROVISIONS IN THERE ABOUT WHERE THEY CANNOT BE, WHERE THEIR CONCENTRATIONS OF BIRDS, AND IT'S REALLY COUNTER TO OTHER COMMUNITY GOALS.
BUT I REALLY DO WANT TO LOOK AT HOMEOWNERS PROPERTY RIGHTS AND HOW WE CAN PROTECT THEIR ABILITY TO, IF THEY DON'T WANT THIS ON THEIR PROPERTY, WHAT KIND OF MECHANISM THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE THAT.
THANK YOU. UNDERSTOOD. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND ALSO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
OF COURSE, ALWAYS BITTERSWEET TO, TO SEE ANYONE WHO'S SERVED THE CITY WISH YOU WELL TO THE NEXT CHAPTER AND HOPE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD. GOOD FOR YOU AND THE FAMILY MOVING FORWARD.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SOME AMBIGUITY ON, ON A COUPLE OF THE POINTS ON 3.6 UNDER G. ONE IS THE COMMUNITY CAT OR COLONY PRODUCES UNREASONABLE NOISE.
DO WE HAVE A DEFINITION FOR WHAT UNREASONABLE NOISE IS? THE NOISE NUISANCE EXAMPLES. BUT CAN YOU REPEAT THAT.
IT WITH ANYTHING. THERE'S THE NUISANCE. THE NOISE NUISANCE IS ADDRESSED FURTHER IN THE ORDINANCE.
AND WHERE IS THAT SPECIFIED? IT'S FURTHER IN WHERE IT CAN BE ALLUDED TO.
BUT I MEAN, IS THERE A SPECIFIC DEFINITION OF WHAT UNREASONABLE NOISE IS? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK FURTHER INTO THE ORDINANCE TO FIND OUT.
OKAY. I THINK THAT IF THERE ISN'T, THERE'S A WAY TO SHORE THAT LANGUAGE UP OR OR USE LESS AMBIGUOUS LANGUAGE. ALSO UNDER NUMBER FOUR, SAME SECTION, THERE IS AN ACCUMULATION OF FOOD WASTE, GARBAGE OR DEBRIS. CAN CAN WE NOT DEFINE THAT MORE SPECIFICALLY? IT IS DEFINED IN THE NUISANCE PART OF THE ORDINANCE THE ACCUMULATION. I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER SPECIFICALLY.
BUT WE HAVE THE WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE IN PLACE.
YEAH. IT'S FURTHER I CAN I CAN LOOK UP THE ORDINANCE.
RIGHT. IS THERE A REASON WE DIDN'T REFERENCE THAT?
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NO. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S DEFINED IN OTHER SECTIONS OF THE THE CHAPTER SEVEN OF ANIMALS.BUT WE CAN WE CAN EITHER LINK THEM TO ONE ANOTHER IN REFERENCE.
YEAH. BUT SO YOU'RE SAYING THE WORD ACCUMULATION IS DEFINED.
OH, I DON'T KNOW. I'M ASKING BECAUSE WITH SANITATION, FOR INSTANCE, OR BULK TRASH OR BRUSH AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE HAVE THIS DEFINED AS A CERTAIN AMOUNT. AND SO I THINK THAT JUST THE TERM ACCUMULATION IS VERY SPECULATIVE AND SUBJECTIVE.
OKAY. I THINK WE MAY HAVE TO REFERENCE TO CHAPTER 7A ANTI-LITTER.
OKAY. YEAH. ON, ON SECTION FIVE, IT SAYS THAT A PERSON VIOLATING PROVISIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE UPON CONVICTION, PUNISHABLE BY A FINE, NOT TO EXCEED $500, IS A COMMUNITY CAT COLONY POSING A PUBLIC NUISANCE AS LISTED IN POINT G OF 7-36.
SO WHAT IS WHAT IS THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY. IS A IS HAVING A COMMUNITY CAT COLONY.
I'M ASKING IF IT IS. NO. OKAY. NO IT'S NOT. IT'S.
IT'S THE MANNER IN WHICH THAT COLONY IS KEPT THAT MAY BE DEFINED AS A NUISANCE.
OKAY. AND WHAT DOES THE DEFENSE TO PROSECUTION LANGUAGE IN 7-31 MEAN IN PRACTICE FOR LIKE A CAREGIVER WHO HAVEN'T GOTTEN TNR. I BELIEVE THAT SECTION IS REFERENCED TO LOOSE LOOSE ANIMALS.
SO IN THE CURRENT CODE, IF YOU OWN AN ANIMAL AND THE ANIMAL'S LOOSE AS AN OWNER, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING THAT ANIMAL SECURED BECAUSE THIS IS A FERAL OR COMMUNITY CAT. THAT PROVISION WOULD NOT APPLY.
OKAY. AND ON 7-33. HOW WILL DAS DISTINGUISH A BAD FAITH TRAPPER VERSUS A RESIDENT TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND ACTUALLY BRING SOME ANIMALS TO DAS ET CETERA.
WELL, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. WE'D HAVE TO SEE WHY THE TRAP WAS NECESSARY.
WAS IT BECAUSE THE ANIMAL WAS SICK? WAS THERE AN ISSUE? WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL UNDERLYING ISSUE? OKAY. THE TOP TWO ZIP CODES CITYWIDE ARE ACTUALLY IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY ROLLOUT OF CONCENTRATION OF RESOURCES TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES OR IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A FLAT CITYWIDE ROLLOUT.
WELL, THERE IS NO CITY RESOURCES DEDICATED TO THIS.
THIS IS JUST A FRAMEWORK. NO YET. BUT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET SEASON.
WE, OKAY, WE, WE WOULD DELEGATE OR DELEGATE SOME OF OUR PARTNERS TO THOSE AREAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE FOCUSING OUR ATTENTIONS WITH OUR PARTNERS, WE'RE MINIMIZING THE MOST HIGHLY AFFECTED AREAS.
SO WITH THAT SAID, TEAM TABBY DID 1451 TNR'S LAST YEAR.
THAT'S UP AGAINST 8491 SERVICE REQUESTS AND 10,599 NEONATAL KITTENS.
WHEN WHEN I SEE A COUNCIL MEMBER ASK YOU DIRECTLY ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD COST, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DISPUTE THE MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET, BUT I AM ASKING FOR SOME REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS AND WE CAN ROLL SOMETHING OUT.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT BUDGET TO SCALE OR FOR US TO TRULY IMPLEMENT MORE EFFECTIVE EFFORTS IN THIS REGARD, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY SOLUTION OTHER THAN MORE MONEY AND RESOURCES TO THE PROBLEM.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT MISS WILLIS'S QUESTION AND ASK IF YOU COULD PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE TO SCALE, BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS Y'ALL, Y'ALL'S HANDS ARE TIED.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRULY MAKE AN IMPACT.
SO UNFORTUNATELY, TEAM TABBY WAS NOT A PRIORITY LAST FISCAL YEAR AND IS NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE.
BUT I CAN'T IN THIS SETTING GIVE YOU A SPECIFIC NUMBER.
IT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D HAVE TO GO BACK WITH THE STAFF, REVISIT, LOOK AT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND THEN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. I WISH I COULD, BUT I'M NOT JUST GOING TO JUST THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE.
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WELL, I'M PLANNING ON MAKING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO GIVE DAS MORE MONEY THIS BUDGET FISCAL YEAR.I UNDERSTAND TABBY'S NOT IMPLEMENTED NOW, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD COUPLE NEW LANGUAGE NEW PRACTICE WITH MORE RESOURCES TO, TO ACTUALLY BRING TANGIBLE RESULTS. DEFINITELY.
THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. AND I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THIS ONE TO FULL COUNCIL AS WELL.
SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE PROPERLY.
SECOND, TO MOVE THIS TO FULL COUNCIL. ANY DISCUSSION? JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. WE'RE MOVING THE THE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MOVING UP.
YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. RAMON.
SIR, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES, MAN.
AND AND IT IS IT IS VERY MUCH A BITTERSWEET FEELING WHEN YOU'RE SITTING THERE.
AND AGAIN, HAVING BEEN IN THIS BUILDING 16 YEARS, WHAT I CAN ALSO GUARANTEE IS WHILE IT'S BITTERSWEET SITTING RIGHT HERE, IT IS SO MUCH MORE REFRESHING THE NEXT TIME I SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS BUILDING, BROTHER, I PROMISE YOU. SO CONGRATULATIONS AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU.
WELL, I CAN PROMISE YOU THIS. I WILL BE BACK TO ADVOCATE FOR DAS.
YES, SIR. JUST FYI. ALL RIGHT, MAN, ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ON OUR BRIEFING MEMOS.
WE HAVE ONE BRIEFING MEMO, AND THEN THE REST ARE UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS. THIS ONE IS OUR PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR THE 90TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
LET ME GET OVER TO IT REAL QUICK. THERE HE IS RIGHT THERE.
MR. DOMINGUEZ, COME GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE. HELLO? COMMITTEE. ERIC DOMINGUEZ, OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. IT'S ACTUALLY MY FIRST TIME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, AND I HAVE THE ULTIMATE PLEASURE OF BRINGING FORTH THESE PROPOSED AGENDA ITEMS THAT WERE VETTED AND IDENTIFIED TO GO BEFORE YOUR COMMITTEE, SIR, AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
ANY QUESTIONS? I DO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'LL START TO MY RIGHT AND WE'LL SWING AROUND.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU ERIC. LOOKING FORWARD TO A FUN AND LEGISLATIVE SESSION COMING UP.
I KIND OF JUST HAVE SOME HIGH LEVEL QUESTIONS.
YOUR MEMOS POINTED OUT THREE ITEMS THAT FELL UNDER THIS JURISDICTION WITH OVER 100 SUBMISSIONS.
I KNOW THAT I ADVOCATED FOR SOME SPECIFICALLY WITH OPIOID AND JUST CURIOUS WHY, WHERE THOSE ARE.
AND WHY WHERE? HOW? IT WAS NARROWED DOWN. YES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. SO THOSE PROPOSED ITEMS. FIRST HAD WENT TO THE IDENTIFIED COMMITTEE THAT ONCE PROPOSED AND SUBMITTED THROUGH THE MICROSOFT FORM.
I COULD ACTUALLY UPDATE YOU, SIR, ON WHERE THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS ARE THAT YOU HAD IDENTIFIED.
SO I'M GOING TO BEAR WITH YOU AND GO THROUGH SOME CHANGES, WHICH IS TOTALLY FINE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AT SOME POINT TO, TO REALLY HONE IN OUTSIDE OF THE LEGISLATIVE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
I KNOW THAT THE LEGISLATIVE AD HOC COMMITTEE CAN DIG IN MORE GRANULARLY TO EACH INDIVIDUAL LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY, ETC., BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT NOT BE SO SCATTERED.
IT LIKE PER JURISDICTION OF COMMITTEE AND US REALLY TAKE A HOLISTIC LOOK AT THIS.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US, YOU KNOW THIS, ESPECIALLY IN A BRIEFING MEMO, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU TO MY COMMENT EARLIER, I DON'T ATTEND COMMITTEE MEETINGS. USUALLY, IF IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A BRIEFING MEMO THAT'S GOING TO BE PASSED THROUGH OR MAYBE NOT EVEN HEARD AT, YOU KNOW, SO BECAUSE IT FALLS UNDER ANOTHER JURISDICTION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FULL COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO TRULY WEIGH IN.
I THINK THAT IT'S ALSO MOVING PARTS. I KNOW THAT WE HAD THE DEADLINE IN MAY 8TH, AND I JUST ASK FOR THE FLEXIBILITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND ADDRESS THINGS AS THEY COME UP FROM NOW UNTIL JANUARY AS WELL.
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THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER. AND I WILL SAY ON BEHALF OF THE LEGISLATIVE AD HOC COMMITTEE, THERE WILL BE AMPLE TIME FOR ADDITIONAL ITEMS AS WELL.SO THAT WAY YOU, SIR, AND ALSO, MA'AM, HAVE ALL THOSE ADDITIONAL IDEAS TO INCLUDE WITHIN THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AND THAT THOSE ARE VETTED AND AD HOC COMMITTEE AS WELL. THANK YOU. NOW, SPECIFIC TO THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT IT'S GOING TO IMPACT ALL OF THESE BRIEFINGS AND OUR INITIATIVES DOWN THERE.
BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE GROUND AT THE CAPITOL.
WE HAVE MANY MUNICIPALITIES OR MUNICIPAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY ADVOCATING SOME IN WHICH TO, TO THE OPPOSITION OF WHAT OUR CITY WOULD BE GOING TOWARDS.
WHAT IS OUR PLAN AS WE APPROACH THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
ASIDE FROM US PUTTING IN A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THIS BUDGET TO GET LOBBYISTS.
SO WITH THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
AND NEXT STEP, OF COURSE, FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU PROVIDE THE CITY MANAGER TO INCLUDE AND ENSURE THAT WE DO, IN FACT, HAVE THAT VOICE AT THE CAPITOL AND THAT WE ARE BOTH IMPACTFUL, TRANSPARENT, AND ALSO STRATEGIC, AS WE CERTAINLY LAY OUT THOSE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY AS WELL AS CONSTITUENTS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'VE, AT THIS POINT IDENTIFIED A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS, ESSENTIALLY FOR US TO TO USE.
IS THAT GOING TO SUFFICE TO GETTING US THROUGH THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION? AND WITH, WITH SOME HISTORIC CONTEXT ARE YOU GOING TO NEED US TO, TO FIND MORE DOLLARS DURING THIS BUDGET SEASON TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT RESOURCES GOING INTO THE SESSION? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
AND OF COURSE, WITH THE CITY MANAGER HAVING VETTED THAT AND APPROVED THAT AMOUNT, I CERTAINLY SUGGEST THAT IF YOU DO IN FACT, DEEM THAT A PRIORITY, IT IS IN FACT A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX.
AS I ALWAYS SAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET THE JOB DONE.
YOU OF COURSE, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER.
WE ARE JUST SO GRATEFUL FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION THAT ANSWERS YOUR CALLS, ANSWERS OUR CALLS.
AND CERTAINLY THE KILLING OF BAD BILLS. ON OUR PRIORITY FOR THE CROSSING GUARDS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY BE PRETTY ACTIVE.
IN WHAT JURISDICTIONS DOES THAT FALL UNDER? BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED TO SEE THAT ONE ON HERE.
SO YES, THAT ACTUALLY THAT ITEM WAS PUT FORTH THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.
OKAY. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. AND SO YES, THAT IS ALSO AN AREA THAT I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED AND CERTAINLY BEEN TASKED TO TACKLE THIS UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION ALONG WITH THE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR, CLIFFORD SPARKS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARITY, TOO, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMEWHAT NEW TO ME.
AND TO YOUR POINT, IF I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF YOU SUBMITTED SOME THINGS UNDER THAT YOU THOUGHT SHOULD FALL UNDER QUALITY OF LIFE AND IT'S NOT THERE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOME WAY TO SEE THAT IT MADE SOME LIST AT SOME POINT OR NO, IT SHOULD BE ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. CHAIR WEST, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TODAY.
I'M GOING TO QUICKLY SPEAK ABOUT ITEM THREE ON THE LEGISLATIVE ITEMS LIST.
ESSENTIALLY, THIS LEGISLATION WAS ENACTED BY THE STATE DURING COVID AND CREATES VERY VAGUE GUIDELINES THAT ALLOW LEARNING PODS OR PSEUDO SCHOOLS TO EXIST WITHOUT ALMOST ANY RULES OR OVERSIGHT. AND CITIES ARE EXPRESSLY BARRED FROM INVESTIGATING OR EVEN INTERFERING AT ALL.
SO I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES AND YOU WILL JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING.
ADDING THIS ITEM TO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. THANK YOU.
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COUNCILWOMAN WILLIS. THANK YOU. I SHARE THE CONCERN.SO WHEN I WHEN YOU WERE INTERVIEWING, I THINK I SAID, WHAT'S THE LATEST? WE COULD HAVE SOMEONE IN PLACE AND YOU SAID SEPTEMBER 1ST.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KNOCKING AT THE DOOR.
I WANT TO GO TO THE LEGISLATIVE ITEMS AND I DON'T KNOW WHY SUPPORTING LIBRARIES AND THEIR SERVICES WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE AGENDA IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO GO BACKWARD AND LOOK THAT UP, BUT I THINK THAT'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN A TOPIC OF INTEREST FOR THIS COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU, ERIC, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS. I JUST WANT TO ECHO MY SUPPORT FOR ANY TYPE OF FUNDING OR GRANTS FOR OUR LIBRARIES AS WELL, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT MODEL.
SO THAT WE CAN KEEP SERVICES AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.
PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR CONSIDERATION BY QOL.
WHAT IS PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED ABOUT LIBRARY GRANTS? COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION ONE MORE TIME? COUNCIL MEMBER. EXCUSE ME. YES. WHAT IS PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED ABOUT SEEKING LIBRARY GRANTS? SO THAT ONE, SIR, I CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING THE THE BROADER CONTEXT AS IT RELATES TO CHAIR MENDELSOHN'S CONTEXT FOR THE LEGISLATIVE AD HOC COMMITTEES. AS FAR AS PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES OF QUALITY AND LIFE, IT'S THOSE ISSUES THAT WE FEEL THAT COULD CERTAINLY BRING OR HOLD TO THE COMMITTEE'S MISSION STRATEGIC PRIORITIES AND ALSO THOSE ISSUES THAT WE FEEL THAT COULD GO FORWARD BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, SIR. WELL, THIS MAY VERY WELL BE A VALID LEGISLATIVE AGENDA ITEM, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME SOLELY WITHIN THE PROVINCE OF THIS COMMITTEE, NOT PUBLIC SAFETY. WAS THIS ON THE LIST OF LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES SUBMITTED BY THIS COMMITTEE? QUALITY OF LIFE. THESE THREE PRIORITIES, SIR.
YES. PRIOR, I COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES AND HAVE THOSE FOR YOUR STAFFS.
WITH REGARD TO FUNDING FOR LOBBYING EFFORTS, IS IT CORRECT THAT THERE IS NO MONEY IN THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET FOR HIRING OUTSIDE LOBBYISTS FOR THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION? I CERTAINLY GREAT QUESTION. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT MONEY IS INCLUDED IN THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET.
WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LOBBYISTS SUPPORT FOR THIS UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION, AS WE HAVE IN ALL PRIOR YEARS. SO IT WOULD BE A REALLY FALSE ECONOMY IF WE DON'T HAVE OR DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDING IN THIS BUDGET TO SUPPORT OUR LOBBYING EFFORTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ROTH I'M THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I'M BLOWN AWAY. I'M A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED THAT THESE ARE THE THREE LEGISLATIVE ITEMS THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON.
THEY SEEM TO BE VERY STRANGE TO ME. AND IT SEEMS TO BE WHEN I SAY STRANGE THAT THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE REALLY DEEP ENOUGH, BROAD ENOUGH SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH FOR US TO BE.
IT SEEMS TO ME THERE SHOULD BE A LOT MORE IMPORTANT BROADER CATEGORIES.
I'M NOT A. OBVIOUSLY LIBRARIES IS GREAT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY THING WE WANT TO ENDORSE AND PROMOTE IN OUR ARTS AND CULTURE AND, AND OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES, THE DEALING WITH RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ISSUES, I GET IT, BUT I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S
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HOW THAT REALLY MANIFESTS ITSELF INTO LEGISLATIVE SPECIFIC ISSUES.AND THIS DEAL ABOUT THE POD PROTECTION, I GET IT, IT'S A ONE OFF DEAL THAT'S IMPORTANT.
I'M NOT I'M NOT DISCOUNTING THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE THREE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS NOT THAT THERE SHOULD BE A LOT MORE THOUGHTFUL, MORE SIGNIFICANT PRIORITIES THAT WE SHOULD BE REALLY IDENTIFYING.
THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, YOU'RE A LONE MAN, A WOLF OUT THERE.
YOU'RE JUST YOU'VE GOT THE WHOLE BURDEN ON YOUR SHOULDER.
AND MAYBE IT'S TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE. BUT I THINK WE'RE, AND IF THIS IS REPRESENTATIVE JUST IN OUR COMMITTEE OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP IN OTHER COMMITTEES, I THINK WE, WE BETTER FOCUS ON WHAT OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE I THINK THE STATE IS TRYING TO LIMIT US.
I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY SOME OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES.
I THINK THIS IS A REAL IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.
SO AGAIN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE LIMITED TO THESE THREE THINGS.
AND AND I'D SURE LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE TO TO FORWARD A THOUGHTFUL AGENDA FOR US TO DO. AND IT'S NOT A REFLECTION OR A CRITICISM OF THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE OR TO YOUR EFFORTS OR ANYBODY'S EFFORTS.
BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. AND WE GOT TO SORT OF FOCUS ON IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DILIGENTLY.
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, SIR. AND I DEFINITELY JUST ECHO AGAIN, CHAIR MENDELSOHN'S COMMENTS THAT THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE INITIAL STEPS, AS THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE THE LEGISLATIVE AD HOC COMMITTEE, AND IS ALSO AS WELL AS TO BEFORE THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL ON WHAT THOSE ISSUES WILL BE AND THAT WE ADVOCATE FOR IN THE 90TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
QUESTION FOR THE CHAIR. ARE WE PLANNING TO HAVE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS THIS COMMITTEE'S LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES? YES. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST GET SOME CLARITY.
I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS GOING TO DO.
IT'S NOT I KNOW CLEARLY. SO ONE THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE OTHER PART WAS DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? YES. YES. MR. CHAIR. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER, WE WILL GET THAT ON THE NEXT AGENDA TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN COME.
SO PLEASE BE PREPARED TO BRING YOUR ITEMS. I DO HAVE ONE.
AS OF RECENT, I THINK IT HAS KIND OF A DOUBLE IMPACT TO THAT.
I'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD ALONG THE LINES OF PET POLICY PET POLICY TRANSPARENCY IN ADVERTISING AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THE HOUSING. IT'S NOT REAL CLEAR. IT REQUIRES FOLKS THAT THE IMPACT THAT REQUIRES FOLKS TO GIVE UP THEIR ANIMALS.
AS A RESULT, THEY'RE EITHER LEFT ON THE STREET OR WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE AT DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES.
SO IT'S AN IMPACT THAT'S COSTING US. I WANT TO BRING THAT TO US.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY. THANK YOU. AND YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, THIS IS ALL NEW. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE SIT DOWN TO BRING OUR ITEMS VERSUS AND TO THE OTHER POINT OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN DID THAT BECOME A PUBLIC SAFETY? THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITIES. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S A TYPO, BECAUSE THERE WERE SEVERAL MEMOS OR IF THAT WAS INTENTIONAL.
THERE, SO I DO NEED SOME, SOME CLARITY ON THAT. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. IT'S ME TRYING TO GET SOME UNDERSTANDING.
GET MY HANDS WRAPPED AROUND THIS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WELL, WITH THAT SAID, THANK YOU, MR. DOMINGUEZ. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. THE REST OF THESE ARE MEMOS IN REGARDS TO UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY ONE OF THESE I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH.
FIRST ONE IS ITEM D. ANY QUESTIONS? JUST A QUESTION.
HAVE WE ALREADY INSTALLED THIS. IS THIS THIS HAS BEEN OUT THERE.
IT'S ALREADY OCCURRED. YEAH. MARTINE. GOOD MORNING.
MARTINE PHILIPPE, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE.
SO THE ARTWORK HAS ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED AND TAKEN DOWN.
WE HAVE TO, AS A MATTER OF DUE DILIGENCE REPORT, WHEN WE'VE ACCEPTED FEDERAL SOURCES OF FUNDS.
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AND NOW. OKAY, SO THIS IS JUST REALLY FOR NOTICE THAT WE'RE GETTING 30,000 BUCKS TOWARDS THAT THE COST OF YES, SIR, OF DOING THAT THING. YES SIR. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT A NEW PROJECT.IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STARTING TO MAKE A OKAY.
YES SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ITEM E THROUGH H. IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE FORECAST.
ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. WITH REGARD TO THE WILEY ELEVATOR SITUATION, I WOULD I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENDORSE THAT AND THAT WE DO PROMOTE THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S A REAL SIGNIFICANT, IMPORTANT SITUATION THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE IMMEDIATELY AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUEST.
NOTED. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING.
WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 11:21. THANK YOU ALL.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.